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A research team from Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health in New York estimates 875,000 deaths in the United States in year 2000 could be attributed to social factors related to poverty and income inequality.

According to U.S. government statistics, 2.45 million Americans died in the same year. When compared to the Columbia research team’s finding, social deprivation could account for some 36% of the total deaths in 2000.

“Almost all of the British economists of the late 18th century said when you have poverty, when you have a transfer of wealth to the rich, you’re going to have shorter lifespans, and you’re also going to have emigration,” says Michael Hudson, Distinguished Research Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri-Kansas City.

Many countries, such as Russia, the Baltic States, and now Greece, have seen a massive outflow of their populations due to worsening social conditions after the implementation of neoliberal policy.

Hudson predicts the United States will undergo the same trend, as greater hardship results from the passage of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, changes to social security, and broader policy shifts due to prospective appointments to the U.S. Supreme Court and the next presidential cabinet.

“Now, the question is, in America, now that you’re having as a result of this polarization shorter lifespans, worse health, worse diets, where are the Americans going to emigrate? Nobody can figure that one out yet,” says Hudson.

SHARMINI PERIES, TRNN: It’s the Real News Network. I’m Sharmini Peries coming to you from Baltimore.

After decades of sustained attacks on social programs and consistently high unemployment rates, it is no surprise that mortality rates in the country have increased. A research team from Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health in New York has estimated that 875,000 deaths in the United States in the year 2000 could be attributed to clusters of social factors bound up with poverty and income inequality. According to U.S. government statistics, some 2.45 million Americans died in the year 2000, thus the researchers estimate means that social deprivation was responsible for some 36 percent of the total deaths that year. A staggering total.

Now joining us to discuss all of this from New York City is Michael Hudson. Michael is a Distinguished Research Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri Kansas City. His latest book is Killing the Host: How Financial Parasites and Debt Bondage Destroy the Global Economy. Michael, good to have you with us.

MICHAEL HUDSON: Good to be back here.

PERIES: So, Michael, what do you make of these recent research and what it’s telling us about the death total in this country?

HUDSON: What it tells is almost identical to what has already been narrated for Russia and Greece. And what is responsible for the increasing death rates is neoliberal economic policy, neoliberal trade policy, and the polarization and impoverishment of a large part of society. After the Soviet Union broke up in 1991, death rates soared, lifespans shortened, health standards decreased all throughout the Yeltsin administration, until finally President Putin came in and stabilized matters. Putin said that the destruction caused by neoliberal economic policies had killed more Russians than all of whom died in World War II, the 22 million people. That’s the devastation that polarization caused there.

Same thing in Greece. In the last five years, Greek lifespans have shortened. They’re getting sicker, they are dying faster, they’re not healthy. Almost all of the British economists of the late 18th century said when you have poverty, when you have a transfer of wealth to the rich, you’re going to have shorter lifespans, and you’re also going to have emigration. The countries that have a hard money policy, a creditor policy, people are going to emigrate.

Now, at that time that was why England was gaining immigrants. It was gaining skilled labor. It was gaining people to work in its industry because other countries were still in the post-feudal system and were driving them out. Russia had a huge emigration of skilled labor, largely to Germany and to the United States, especially in information technology. Greece has a heavy outflow of labor. The Baltic States have had almost a 10 percent decline in their population in the last decade as a result of their neoliberal policies. Also, health problems are rising.

Now, the question is, in America, now that you’re having as a result of this polarization shorter lifespans, worse health, worse diets, where are the Americans going to emigrate? Nobody can figure that one out yet. There’s no, seems nowhere for them to go, because they don’t speak a foreign language. The Russians, the Greeks, most Europeans all somehow have to learn English in school. They’re able to get by in other countries. They’re not sure where on earth can the Americans go to? Nobody can really figure this out.

And the amazing thing, what’s going to make this worse, is the trade, the Trans-Pacific trade agreement, and the counterpart with the Atlantic states. In today’s news there’s news that President Obama plans to make a big push for the Trans-Pacific trade agreement, essentially the giveaway to corporations preventing governments from environmental protection, preventing them from imposing health standards, preventing them from having cigarette warnings or warning about bad food. Obama says he wants to push this in after the election. And the plan is the Republicans also are sort of working with them and saying okay, we’re going to wait and see. Maybe Donald Trump will come in and he’ll really do things. Or maybe we can get Hillary, who will move way further to the right than any Republican could, and bring the Congress.

ORDER IT NOW

But let’s say that we don’t know what’s happening after the elections, and the Republicans don’t want a risk. They’re going to do a number of things. They’re going to approve Obama’s Republican nominee to the Supreme Court that he’s already done, figuring, well, maybe Hillary will put in someone worse, or even Trump may put in someone worse. They may go along, at this point, with ratifying a trade agreement that’s going to vastly increase unemployment here, especially in industrial labor, turning much of the American industrial urban complex into a rust belt. And they’re also talking about an October surprise or an early November surprise. It’s the last chance that Obama has, really, to start a war with Russia.

And there’s Stephen Cohen and a number of other sites have warned that there’s going to be a danger when they put in the atomic weapons in Romania. President Putin has said this is a red line. We’re not going to warn. We don’t have an army. We can only use atomic weapons. So you have danger coming not only from domestic decline in population, you have a real chance of war. And Obama has stepped things up. Hillary has, I think, almost announced that she is going to appoint Victoria Nuland as secretary of state, and Nuland is the person who was pushing the Ukrainian fascists in the [inaud.] assassinations and shootout.

So it looks… this trend looks very bad. If you want to see where America is going demographically, best to look at Greece, Latvia, Russia, and also in England. Dr. Miller has done studies of health and longevity, and he’s found that the lower the income status of any group in England, the shorter the lifespan. Now, this is very important for the current debate about Social Security. You’re having people talk about extending the Social Security age because people are living longer. Who’s living longer in America? The rich are living longer. The wealthy are living longer. But if you make under $30,000 a year, or even under $50,000 a year, you’re not living longer.

So the idea is how to avoid having to pay Social Security for the lower-income people, — the middle class and the working class that die quicker, and only pay social security for the wealthier classes that live longer? Nobody has plugged this discussion of lifespans and longevity into the Social Security debate that Obama and Hillary are trying to raise the retirement age, to ostensibly save Social Security. By saving Social Security she means to avoid taxing the higher brackets and paying for Social Security out of the general budget, which of course would entail taxing the higher-income people as well as the lower-income people.

PERIES: All right, Michael. Thank you for your report today, and we look forward to seeing you next week.

HUDSON: Thank you.

(Republished from Michael-Hudson.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. ‘Income inequality’ is a little deceptive as a term.

    In Country X, there are 100 people. Ten make a million US dollars a year, ninety make one hundred thousand. Are you really telling me those making tens time less will suffer shorter life spans? How much money does a man need? Seems the real question here is absolute, rather than relative income.

    What we need to do is make the means of wealth generation available to all. Redistributive payments, of the type Sanders imagines, are not a sustainable fix. Trump’s not perfect, but more than any other candidate he represents raising the earnings of the average citizen and small businesses.

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    • Replies: @WorkingClass
    Its simple. If the 1% has everything the 99% will have nothing.
    , @Anonymous
    17% of US households make 100k p.a. or more.

    28% make 25k or less. That does make for shorter lifespan.
    , @Anonymous
    You are absolutely right regarding the income inequality ratio you quote which is 10 unfortunately the inequality ratio is much much higher at least 1000 (I am speculating, may be a bit lower or higher) where you have people who can't see the doctor or dentist or get their medications that does have an effect on their health. I personally know couple of people who died after being laid off due to lack of medical care. It effects the middle class say 50k income level more than any body else since they don't get any freebies from the state since they don't qualify. Sad but true.
    , @gwynedd1
    The real question is not absolute. The income ratio is not merely one about subsistence. A 10 to 1 ratio in income also reflects political influence which does ultimately impact the plan for disaster recovery.
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  2. anon says: • Disclaimer

    “Now, the question is, in America, now that you’re having as a result of this polarization shorter lifespans, worse health, worse diets, where are the Americans going to emigrate? Nobody can figure that one out yet,” says Hudson.

    Ahh, Michael. Surly you’re being coy here. The whole point of globalization was exactly that–to make it so that there would be no different and consequently no better there, there!

    It’s all one global cesspit. One wage, one standard of living, one retirement plan (none), one pension plan (none), one standardized diet, one nightmarish commute on roads clogged with other interchangeable work units. Unity has morphed into Totality.

    Today, to pay a traffic fine I had to go through airport-style security at the courthouse. Back in the lost days of our innocent youth, anyone could walk into their courthouse, any time, with no one there to inspect them or pat them down.

    What have we lost? With this imperial globalization we have turned our communities into prisons, complete with armed guards searching innocent citizens–even kids and grandmothers. Our grandchildren will never believe us when we tell them that in the old days a citizen could go into a public building or board a plane unmolested.

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    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    "It’s all one global cesspit."

    You nailed it!
    , @Anonymous
    I could not agree more. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't gone through this transition myself.
    , @anonymouse
    So true. Compensation is that medical science is much improved. And that we'll be dead soon.
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  3. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Lazy bums.

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  4. No_0ne says:

    We all must make sacrifices to the gods of free trade and globalism. Of course it’s worth it.

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  5. @Lemurmaniac
    'Income inequality' is a little deceptive as a term.

    In Country X, there are 100 people. Ten make a million US dollars a year, ninety make one hundred thousand. Are you really telling me those making tens time less will suffer shorter life spans? How much money does a man need? Seems the real question here is absolute, rather than relative income.

    What we need to do is make the means of wealth generation available to all. Redistributive payments, of the type Sanders imagines, are not a sustainable fix. Trump's not perfect, but more than any other candidate he represents raising the earnings of the average citizen and small businesses.

    Its simple. If the 1% has everything the 99% will have nothing.

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    • Replies: @phil
    Hudson's at it again!

    According to the Economic Freedom Index (EFI), the most economically liberal places in the world are:
    (1) Hong Kong; (2) Singapore; (3) New Zealand; and (4) Switzerland. Average life expectancy in the four places is 84 (Hong Kong); 82 (Singapore); 81 (New Zealand); and 83 (Switzerland).

    The degree of economic liberty in the US has declined 8.2% since the year 2000.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Its simple. If the 1% has everything the 99% will have nothing.
     
    If the 1% has nothing, the 99% will also have nothing.
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  6. “There’s no, seems nowhere for them to go, because they don’t speak a foreign language. “

    I thought I read somewhere they were all going to emigrate to Canada if Trump was elected, but you raise the good point that they would have to learn Canadian. Hey, I learned British English and Singlish at an advanced age, so I suspect more than a few Americans could tackle learning Canadian, eh?

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  7. phil says:
    @WorkingClass
    Its simple. If the 1% has everything the 99% will have nothing.

    Hudson’s at it again!

    According to the Economic Freedom Index (EFI), the most economically liberal places in the world are:
    (1) Hong Kong; (2) Singapore; (3) New Zealand; and (4) Switzerland. Average life expectancy in the four places is 84 (Hong Kong); 82 (Singapore); 81 (New Zealand); and 83 (Switzerland).

    The degree of economic liberty in the US has declined 8.2% since the year 2000.

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    • Replies: @RaceRealist88
    That has to do with IQ, not even economics.
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  8. @anon
    “Now, the question is, in America, now that you’re having as a result of this polarization shorter lifespans, worse health, worse diets, where are the Americans going to emigrate? Nobody can figure that one out yet,” says Hudson.

    Ahh, Michael. Surly you're being coy here. The whole point of globalization was exactly that--to make it so that there would be no different and consequently no better there, there!

    It's all one global cesspit. One wage, one standard of living, one retirement plan (none), one pension plan (none), one standardized diet, one nightmarish commute on roads clogged with other interchangeable work units. Unity has morphed into Totality.

    Today, to pay a traffic fine I had to go through airport-style security at the courthouse. Back in the lost days of our innocent youth, anyone could walk into their courthouse, any time, with no one there to inspect them or pat them down.

    What have we lost? With this imperial globalization we have turned our communities into prisons, complete with armed guards searching innocent citizens--even kids and grandmothers. Our grandchildren will never believe us when we tell them that in the old days a citizen could go into a public building or board a plane unmolested.

    “It’s all one global cesspit.”

    You nailed it!

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  9. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Now, the question is, in America, now that you’re having as a result of this polarization shorter lifespans, worse health, worse diets, where are the Americans going to emigrate? Nobody can figure that one out yet,” says Hudson.

    People have already figured that one out:

    “Jeff Bezos sees ‘millions’ of people living, working in space”

    https://au.pfinance.yahoo.com/fame-and-fortune/article/-/29544248/jeff-bezos-sees-millions-of-people-living-working-in-space/

    “Elon Musk Charts Path to Colonizing Mars Within a Decade”

    http://observer.com/2016/06/elon-musk-charts-path-to-colonizing-mars-within-a-decade/

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    • Replies: @The Original George
    So then, TriStar Pictures got it backwards? Earth will be Elysium for the rich and the proles will have to settle for a life of labor in deep space while their bones lose mass and their brains are fried by gamma radiation.
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  10. Wally says: • Website

    The fact remains that euro-whites are being driven out of the workplace by racist discrimination against them by those in control of the government and the government’s microphone, the media. And who is that?

    Who promotes massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe while preventing non-Jews from entering “that shitty little country”.
    Who promotes gay marriage everywhere except in Israel where it is illegal?
    Who is it that now gets 5 billion dollars a year in US taxpayer money?
    Who runs the Federal Reserve?
    Who runs Wall Street?
    Who owns the US Congress
    Who owns the White House?
    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
    Who runs the media / entertainment?
    Who dominates ‘academia’?
    Why is AIPAC the most powerful, dominant lobby, which regularly writes the text of Congressional bills and resolutions.
    Who is it that wants to censor free speech via the “hate speech” canard.
    Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?

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    • Replies: @epochehusserl
    When I suggested in a message board that they get rid of the doctrine of disparate impact on a national review message board comment thread, I was threatened for trying to create a whites only organization.
    , @biz
    Dumb.


    Who promotes massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe while preventing non-Jews from entering “that shitty little country”.
     
    Who promotes massive immigration? Lots of people, of various ethnicities. Major proponents at the moment include Merkel, Hollande, and Obama. Is your contention that they are all Jews?

    Who promotes gay marriage everywhere except in Israel where it is illegal?

     

    Buzz, wrong. Gay marriage is legal in Israel. Well, as legal as any other civil marriage, meaning that gay marriages performed abroad are legal in Israel.

    Who is it that now gets 5 billion dollars a year in US taxpayer money?
     
    Israel and Egypt. And it s $3 billion, not 5. And every penny comes back to the US because it has to be spent on US manufactured equipment.

    Who runs the Federal Reserve?
     
    Janet Yellin

    Who runs Wall Street?
     
    Investment banks

    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
     
    Every mainstream historian in the world?

    Who dominates ‘academia’?
     
    Asians?

    Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?
     
    Saudi Arabia? It is certainly not Israel, given that Ariel Sharon urged George W against the Iraq war.
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  11. @WorkingClass
    Its simple. If the 1% has everything the 99% will have nothing.

    Its simple. If the 1% has everything the 99% will have nothing.

    If the 1% has nothing, the 99% will also have nothing.

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    • Replies: @bomag
    If the 1% own all the machines and resources, they don't need the 99%, except to channel them into their various status signalling ventures.
    , @boogerbently
    Correct.
    The 1% hasn't yet figured out that if the 99% has nothing, who's going to buy their stuff and keep them in the 1%.
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  12. One of the many false promises of neoliberalism was that government would shrink and taxes would decline. However, that was never the point of neoliberalism, the point of neoliberalism was to commericalise the public sector, not downsize it or save taxpayers money. It’s all about creating money-making opportunties for white collar bullshit artists who inhabit the grey areas between commerce and public service. Tertiary education is a perfect example of this. In the good old days western governments and public universities worked together to provide an adequate supply of civil servants, nurses, doctors, pilots, lawyers, teachers, mechanics et al. They didn’t bullshit the students or take on too many students, and they provided the public and private sectors will the necessary skilled labour. Today the commercialised universities compete for students with bullshit courses designed to lure in students and make money for the universities. The students lose, society comes off second best, but the corporatised universities and their bloated administration departments are laughing all the way to the bank.

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  13. Big Bill says:

    I keep scratching my head. Hudson comes this close–THIS CLOSE–to saying mass immigration sucks … but he just can’t bring himself to say it.

    Americans being taxed to support tens of millions of dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks Third World peasants is cool.

    Americans being replaced by cheaper Chinese, Indian, and Pakistani workers is cool.

    But when Americans are forced to move overseas as a result, that is bad.

    I just don’t get it.

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    • Replies: @Seneca
    Yes it's a puzzle....not sure I understand that blind spot.

    It's very weird not even to discuss this aspect of the problem (flooding the labor market with cheap labor)

    As a result it is is hard to take him that seriously as a writer or as an intellect.

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  14. @Wally
    The fact remains that euro-whites are being driven out of the workplace by racist discrimination against them by those in control of the government and the government's microphone, the media. And who is that?

    Who promotes massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe while preventing non-Jews from entering “that shitty little country”.
    Who promotes gay marriage everywhere except in Israel where it is illegal?
    Who is it that now gets 5 billion dollars a year in US taxpayer money?
    Who runs the Federal Reserve?
    Who runs Wall Street?
    Who owns the US Congress
    Who owns the White House?
    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
    Who runs the media / entertainment?
    Who dominates ‘academia’?
    Why is AIPAC the most powerful, dominant lobby, which regularly writes the text of Congressional bills and resolutions.
    Who is it that wants to censor free speech via the “hate speech” canard.
    Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?

    When I suggested in a message board that they get rid of the doctrine of disparate impact on a national review message board comment thread, I was threatened for trying to create a whites only organization.

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  15. bomag says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Its simple. If the 1% has everything the 99% will have nothing.
     
    If the 1% has nothing, the 99% will also have nothing.

    If the 1% own all the machines and resources, they don’t need the 99%, except to channel them into their various status signalling ventures.

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  16. Rehmat says:

    NOPE – Michael Hudson, Americans especially the non-White are not leaving the US because they had long been fed with corporate lies of the country being bastion of democracy, wealth and freedom via Jewish-controlled printed media, TV, and Hollywood.

    Most American oligarchs maintain their second and third residence in Tel Aviv, Paris and Monte Carlo.

    The largest number of Americans meet their death as result of home violence, race violence, and drugs – followed by Washington’s imperial foreign wars.

    It is estimated that there are 450 billionaires and 3,000,000 millionaires in United States (more than 60% are Jewish) as per 2008. The net worth of all households in US (population aound 300 million) as per June 30, 2008 – was US$56 trillion. The 450 billionaires are worth US$1 trillion, while 3,000,000 millionairs are worth US$11 trillion – which comes to one percent of US population owning more than 21 per cent of countries resorces.

    Most of these billionaires and millionaires have accumulated their wealth by managing fellow Americans’ money or looting the resources of under-develope nations – mostly Muslims.

    On Global level – Americans are less than 6 percent of world population – but consumes more than 40 percent of world’s resources and produce more than 50 percent of world’s garbage.

    In the US, the real estate rose 50 per cent between 2002-2007, while the mortgage dept rose 75 percent during the same period. Consumers’ debt rose by 30 percent, while durable goods assests have only risen 24 percent – and financial assests rose to staggering 55 percent. The vast majority of this financial assest growth benefitted the billioniares and the millionaires.

    International monetary system (WB, IMF, WTO, USAID, etc.) is based on Capitalism- and is maintained by the super-powers for the benefit of their minority rich elites – which was the driving force behind western colonization of most of Asian and African nations. These greedy and corrupt elites feel no mercy for their own countrymen either. Their controlled governments always are there to bail then out by using taxpayers’ hard earned money.

    https://rehmat1.com/2008/09/27/capitalism-at-the-best/

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    Hey Homer

    America should be more like Pakistan.

    Now that's a successful country!

    Sherm
    , @Karl
    https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=opera&hs=qK4&q=pakistan+mother+daughter+"burnt+alive"&oq=pakistan+mother+daughter+"burnt+alive"&gs_l=serp.3...11491.11491.0.12089.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..1.0.0.VAO3V9lZ61Y


    Rehmat, tell us about your plan to spread Muslim love thoughout the world....


    every time I think i'm about to run out of current-events horror stories from Rehmat's tribe, to throw at him..... they do it again
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  17. Karl says:

    California can become a sex-tourist destination, like Philippines or Thailand.

    The big question is….. who will you bring in as the tourists? Saudi has money problems of late, Russia has money problems of late…. who’s left, the Canadians?

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    @anon
    “Now, the question is, in America, now that you’re having as a result of this polarization shorter lifespans, worse health, worse diets, where are the Americans going to emigrate? Nobody can figure that one out yet,” says Hudson.

    Ahh, Michael. Surly you're being coy here. The whole point of globalization was exactly that--to make it so that there would be no different and consequently no better there, there!

    It's all one global cesspit. One wage, one standard of living, one retirement plan (none), one pension plan (none), one standardized diet, one nightmarish commute on roads clogged with other interchangeable work units. Unity has morphed into Totality.

    Today, to pay a traffic fine I had to go through airport-style security at the courthouse. Back in the lost days of our innocent youth, anyone could walk into their courthouse, any time, with no one there to inspect them or pat them down.

    What have we lost? With this imperial globalization we have turned our communities into prisons, complete with armed guards searching innocent citizens--even kids and grandmothers. Our grandchildren will never believe us when we tell them that in the old days a citizen could go into a public building or board a plane unmolested.

    I could not agree more. I wouldn’t have believed it if I hadn’t gone through this transition myself.

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  19. biz says:
    @Wally
    The fact remains that euro-whites are being driven out of the workplace by racist discrimination against them by those in control of the government and the government's microphone, the media. And who is that?

    Who promotes massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe while preventing non-Jews from entering “that shitty little country”.
    Who promotes gay marriage everywhere except in Israel where it is illegal?
    Who is it that now gets 5 billion dollars a year in US taxpayer money?
    Who runs the Federal Reserve?
    Who runs Wall Street?
    Who owns the US Congress
    Who owns the White House?
    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
    Who runs the media / entertainment?
    Who dominates ‘academia’?
    Why is AIPAC the most powerful, dominant lobby, which regularly writes the text of Congressional bills and resolutions.
    Who is it that wants to censor free speech via the “hate speech” canard.
    Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?

    Dumb.

    Who promotes massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe while preventing non-Jews from entering “that shitty little country”.

    Who promotes massive immigration? Lots of people, of various ethnicities. Major proponents at the moment include Merkel, Hollande, and Obama. Is your contention that they are all Jews?

    Who promotes gay marriage everywhere except in Israel where it is illegal?

    Buzz, wrong. Gay marriage is legal in Israel. Well, as legal as any other civil marriage, meaning that gay marriages performed abroad are legal in Israel.

    Who is it that now gets 5 billion dollars a year in US taxpayer money?

    Israel and Egypt. And it s $3 billion, not 5. And every penny comes back to the US because it has to be spent on US manufactured equipment.

    Who runs the Federal Reserve?

    Janet Yellin

    Who runs Wall Street?

    Investment banks

    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?

    Every mainstream historian in the world?

    Who dominates ‘academia’?

    Asians?

    Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?

    Saudi Arabia? It is certainly not Israel, given that Ariel Sharon urged George W against the Iraq war.

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    Agreed 100%. It's all a deeply anti-Semitic coincidence.
    , @Mulegino1
    With respect to the ludicrous 6 million narrative, "mainstream historians" must accept it in order to become and remain mainstream and keep their jobs. They obviously know who butters their bread.

    The legend can be quite easily dissected by an objective examination of the physical evidence or lack thereof. In this respect, the physical sites of Treblinka II and Babi Yar are representative of the entire false narrative, because there is nothing in either place to indicate that anything at all like what "mainstream historians" claim occurred.

    The Holocaust narrative is a blank check made out to Israel by the taxpayers of the EU and the U.S.
    , @Art

    Who runs the Federal Reserve?

    Janet Yellin

    Who runs Wall Street?

    Investment banks

    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?

    Every mainstream historian in the world?

    Who dominates ‘academia’?

    Asians?

     
    Say biz,

    Sorry but this is inadequate – this is very poor weak hasbara – we expect a higher level of Jew lairs on this site.

    If you want to run with the other Little Jew lemmings – you have to pick it up man.

    No extra shekels for you Little Jew.

    Art
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  20. Sherman says:
    @Rehmat
    NOPE - Michael Hudson, Americans especially the non-White are not leaving the US because they had long been fed with corporate lies of the country being bastion of democracy, wealth and freedom via Jewish-controlled printed media, TV, and Hollywood.

    Most American oligarchs maintain their second and third residence in Tel Aviv, Paris and Monte Carlo.

    The largest number of Americans meet their death as result of home violence, race violence, and drugs - followed by Washington's imperial foreign wars.

    It is estimated that there are 450 billionaires and 3,000,000 millionaires in United States (more than 60% are Jewish) as per 2008. The net worth of all households in US (population aound 300 million) as per June 30, 2008 – was US$56 trillion. The 450 billionaires are worth US$1 trillion, while 3,000,000 millionairs are worth US$11 trillion – which comes to one percent of US population owning more than 21 per cent of countries resorces.

    Most of these billionaires and millionaires have accumulated their wealth by managing fellow Americans’ money or looting the resources of under-develope nations – mostly Muslims.

    On Global level – Americans are less than 6 percent of world population – but consumes more than 40 percent of world’s resources and produce more than 50 percent of world’s garbage.

    In the US, the real estate rose 50 per cent between 2002-2007, while the mortgage dept rose 75 percent during the same period. Consumers’ debt rose by 30 percent, while durable goods assests have only risen 24 percent – and financial assests rose to staggering 55 percent. The vast majority of this financial assest growth benefitted the billioniares and the millionaires.

    International monetary system (WB, IMF, WTO, USAID, etc.) is based on Capitalism- and is maintained by the super-powers for the benefit of their minority rich elites – which was the driving force behind western colonization of most of Asian and African nations. These greedy and corrupt elites feel no mercy for their own countrymen either. Their controlled governments always are there to bail then out by using taxpayers’ hard earned money.

    https://rehmat1.com/2008/09/27/capitalism-at-the-best/

    Hey Homer

    America should be more like Pakistan.

    Now that’s a successful country!

    Sherm

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    America should be more like Pakistan.

    Now that’s a successful country!

    Hey Sherm,

    A friendly comment, if I may.

    This comparison argument that you make over and over is getting stale.

    You always find a country worse then Israel (granted it is hard to do) – and you always find some Gentile that has done worse than the Jew you are excusing (even back to the caveman).

    The argument “not as bad as” is an admission of doing wrong – EVERYTIME!

    Morality aside - this is BORING.

    Yours – Art

    p.s. How many Palestinians are you Jews going to kill for the 4 dead Israelis? (My sympathies to those 4 and their families – but not to Israel.)

    p.s. Are they selling viewing tickets around the village the gunman came from? I’ll bet the downwind tickets are the most expensive? Does it get any better than a whiff of fresh Palestinian blood?

    , @Rehmat
    Hey Bibi

    No sensible Pakistani would like to see United States, an Israeli colony, looks like Pakistan that has become a nuclear power without stealing technology and material from the US.

    In December 2010, the Washington-based Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy, in its 80-page submission to Obama administration had asked to delay the presentation of the National Medal of Technology and Innovation Award to Zalman Shapiro 89 (a Jew and former President of the Pittsburgh chapter of the Zionist Organization of America) over lingering questions about the theft and diversion of US weapons grade uranium to Israel.

    https://rehmat1.com/2011/01/10/us-award-for-stealing-bomb-grade-uranium-for-israel/
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  21. joef says:

    Good article, but I agree with the 1st post that income inequality is a deceptive term. It does not make a difference what the top makes if the bottom is doing well; its when the bottom is not doing well that it becomes a problem. The problem is where do you emigrate to, because its not like the rest of the world does not have their own economic problems?Our problem is that we have a combination of corporate oligarchy along with an expanding socialist govt (socialist against the private citizen), along with a mainstream media that turned our democracy into a form of mob rule.
    Our next problem is the governments on many levels are starting to focus on entitlement giveaways as there main focus and primary function. This while we just keep building a financial powder keg. Thus you will eventually see austerity in this country, but you will probably see it every where else in the world too!
    So get ready for higher taxes, house foreclosures from excessive property tax, pay cuts, pension cuts, hospitals closing, roads not repaired, lack of snow removal, closing of firehouses, military base closures, lack of police, postal, and sanitation services, and bank holidays. Add to that is more crime, more gangs, riots, looting, and home invasions. There will also be increased afro american animosity (because we pandered and over promised) when the benefits start to be reduced/eliminated because govt defaults under the financial strain. That will be the new normal, and it probably will not be any better in other parts of the world.

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  22. Karl says:
    @Rehmat
    NOPE - Michael Hudson, Americans especially the non-White are not leaving the US because they had long been fed with corporate lies of the country being bastion of democracy, wealth and freedom via Jewish-controlled printed media, TV, and Hollywood.

    Most American oligarchs maintain their second and third residence in Tel Aviv, Paris and Monte Carlo.

    The largest number of Americans meet their death as result of home violence, race violence, and drugs - followed by Washington's imperial foreign wars.

    It is estimated that there are 450 billionaires and 3,000,000 millionaires in United States (more than 60% are Jewish) as per 2008. The net worth of all households in US (population aound 300 million) as per June 30, 2008 – was US$56 trillion. The 450 billionaires are worth US$1 trillion, while 3,000,000 millionairs are worth US$11 trillion – which comes to one percent of US population owning more than 21 per cent of countries resorces.

    Most of these billionaires and millionaires have accumulated their wealth by managing fellow Americans’ money or looting the resources of under-develope nations – mostly Muslims.

    On Global level – Americans are less than 6 percent of world population – but consumes more than 40 percent of world’s resources and produce more than 50 percent of world’s garbage.

    In the US, the real estate rose 50 per cent between 2002-2007, while the mortgage dept rose 75 percent during the same period. Consumers’ debt rose by 30 percent, while durable goods assests have only risen 24 percent – and financial assests rose to staggering 55 percent. The vast majority of this financial assest growth benefitted the billioniares and the millionaires.

    International monetary system (WB, IMF, WTO, USAID, etc.) is based on Capitalism- and is maintained by the super-powers for the benefit of their minority rich elites – which was the driving force behind western colonization of most of Asian and African nations. These greedy and corrupt elites feel no mercy for their own countrymen either. Their controlled governments always are there to bail then out by using taxpayers’ hard earned money.

    https://rehmat1.com/2008/09/27/capitalism-at-the-best/

    https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=opera&hs=qK4&q=pakistan+mother+daughter+”burnt+alive”&oq=pakistan+mother+daughter+”burnt+alive”&gs_l=serp.3…11491.11491.0.12089.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0….0…1c.1.64.serp..1.0.0.VAO3V9lZ61Y

    Rehmat, tell us about your plan to spread Muslim love thoughout the world….

    every time I think i’m about to run out of current-events horror stories from Rehmat’s tribe, to throw at him….. they do it again

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    Come on, an arranged marriage under threat of burning if the woman or girl refuses is the only hope for Rehmat to ever get his dick wet.
    , @Rehmat
    Listen to your Jewish godfather Norman Gershman, stupid.

    "To me Islam is poetry. is science, is to be with the Divine. Islam is beauty,” – Norman Gershman, founder of “BESA, a code of honor” project.

    “I am a Jew of Islam because Judaism under the rule of the Crescent took a different course than that under the rule of the Cross. The Jews of Islam, although decreed by the Pact of Omar as dhimmis or second-class citizen, never experienced the same level of hatred, anti-Semitism or persecution, which were their daily bread in Christendom. They were not demonized as god’s (Jesus) killers and did not have to defend their religion in public deputations. They were not expelled en-masse on religious grounds from a Muslim country as they were from England, France and Catholic Spain,” Rabbi Haim Ovadia, Kahal Joseph Congregation in Los Angeles, California, January, 2008....

    https://rehmat1.com/2010/01/20/gods-house-muslims-saved-jews-from-nazis/
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  23. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Lemurmaniac
    'Income inequality' is a little deceptive as a term.

    In Country X, there are 100 people. Ten make a million US dollars a year, ninety make one hundred thousand. Are you really telling me those making tens time less will suffer shorter life spans? How much money does a man need? Seems the real question here is absolute, rather than relative income.

    What we need to do is make the means of wealth generation available to all. Redistributive payments, of the type Sanders imagines, are not a sustainable fix. Trump's not perfect, but more than any other candidate he represents raising the earnings of the average citizen and small businesses.

    17% of US households make 100k p.a. or more.

    28% make 25k or less. That does make for shorter lifespan.

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    "28% make 25k or less. That does make for shorter lifespan."

    And government makes the cost of living at least twice what it should be.
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  24. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Lemurmaniac
    'Income inequality' is a little deceptive as a term.

    In Country X, there are 100 people. Ten make a million US dollars a year, ninety make one hundred thousand. Are you really telling me those making tens time less will suffer shorter life spans? How much money does a man need? Seems the real question here is absolute, rather than relative income.

    What we need to do is make the means of wealth generation available to all. Redistributive payments, of the type Sanders imagines, are not a sustainable fix. Trump's not perfect, but more than any other candidate he represents raising the earnings of the average citizen and small businesses.

    You are absolutely right regarding the income inequality ratio you quote which is 10 unfortunately the inequality ratio is much much higher at least 1000 (I am speculating, may be a bit lower or higher) where you have people who can’t see the doctor or dentist or get their medications that does have an effect on their health. I personally know couple of people who died after being laid off due to lack of medical care. It effects the middle class say 50k income level more than any body else since they don’t get any freebies from the state since they don’t qualify. Sad but true.

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  25. JackOH says:

    American here who thought half-heartedly about emigrating from the States in the 1990s. Mr. Hudson, whose writings I like, may be a bit too glib here. The decision to emigrate is gut-wrenching. You need “push”–an abhorrent situation in your home country. You also need “pull”–something attractive, family or job or cheap farmland, at the place where you’ll end up.

    Something like one-third the immigrants to America returned from where they came, if my understanding’s okay. Immigration and emigration, in my opinion, are not magic fixes for anything. We need to ask a lot more questions about both ideas, and come up with some half-plausible answers.

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  26. gwynedd1 says:
    @Lemurmaniac
    'Income inequality' is a little deceptive as a term.

    In Country X, there are 100 people. Ten make a million US dollars a year, ninety make one hundred thousand. Are you really telling me those making tens time less will suffer shorter life spans? How much money does a man need? Seems the real question here is absolute, rather than relative income.

    What we need to do is make the means of wealth generation available to all. Redistributive payments, of the type Sanders imagines, are not a sustainable fix. Trump's not perfect, but more than any other candidate he represents raising the earnings of the average citizen and small businesses.

    The real question is not absolute. The income ratio is not merely one about subsistence. A 10 to 1 ratio in income also reflects political influence which does ultimately impact the plan for disaster recovery.

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  27. Ragno says:
    @biz
    Dumb.


    Who promotes massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe while preventing non-Jews from entering “that shitty little country”.
     
    Who promotes massive immigration? Lots of people, of various ethnicities. Major proponents at the moment include Merkel, Hollande, and Obama. Is your contention that they are all Jews?

    Who promotes gay marriage everywhere except in Israel where it is illegal?

     

    Buzz, wrong. Gay marriage is legal in Israel. Well, as legal as any other civil marriage, meaning that gay marriages performed abroad are legal in Israel.

    Who is it that now gets 5 billion dollars a year in US taxpayer money?
     
    Israel and Egypt. And it s $3 billion, not 5. And every penny comes back to the US because it has to be spent on US manufactured equipment.

    Who runs the Federal Reserve?
     
    Janet Yellin

    Who runs Wall Street?
     
    Investment banks

    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
     
    Every mainstream historian in the world?

    Who dominates ‘academia’?
     
    Asians?

    Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?
     
    Saudi Arabia? It is certainly not Israel, given that Ariel Sharon urged George W against the Iraq war.

    Agreed 100%. It’s all a deeply anti-Semitic coincidence.

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  28. @anon
    “Now, the question is, in America, now that you’re having as a result of this polarization shorter lifespans, worse health, worse diets, where are the Americans going to emigrate? Nobody can figure that one out yet,” says Hudson.

    Ahh, Michael. Surly you're being coy here. The whole point of globalization was exactly that--to make it so that there would be no different and consequently no better there, there!

    It's all one global cesspit. One wage, one standard of living, one retirement plan (none), one pension plan (none), one standardized diet, one nightmarish commute on roads clogged with other interchangeable work units. Unity has morphed into Totality.

    Today, to pay a traffic fine I had to go through airport-style security at the courthouse. Back in the lost days of our innocent youth, anyone could walk into their courthouse, any time, with no one there to inspect them or pat them down.

    What have we lost? With this imperial globalization we have turned our communities into prisons, complete with armed guards searching innocent citizens--even kids and grandmothers. Our grandchildren will never believe us when we tell them that in the old days a citizen could go into a public building or board a plane unmolested.

    So true. Compensation is that medical science is much improved. And that we’ll be dead soon.

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  29. Durruti says:

    Nice article by Hudson,

    The electoral circus between Zionist Terrorist Killery Clinton, and future Zionist Terrorist, The Donald Trump, is a misdirection Hollywood production.

    One reason there is so little resistance, is as follows.

    Russian 5th Column led by Putin.

    https://www.rt.com/business/345829-putin-netanyahu-israel-russia/

    The Betrayal of Russia’s leaders - help NATO surround the diminished remnants of Russia. American Troops, Abrams Tanks & other ordinance is flowing into the Baltic Principalities, Georgia, 90% of the Ukraine, Sweden, Finland, Rumania, Bulgaria, Turkey, etc..

    Putin is the Judas Goat, and Zionist Netanyahoo is Judas, the Christ Seller who works for the Christ killers.

    Poor Palestinians, poor Native Americans, poor Planet.

    The Only Road is to Restore the Republic!

    Durruti
    The Anarchist Collective.

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    >>> Judas, the Christ Seller who works for the Christ killers.


    I don't know if there even existed a Historical Jesus, but if he did, his father didn't send him to Nazareth to improve the carpentry

    He had a mission statement, and that was to die. Judas was the MOST irreplaceable of all the disciples.
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  30. biz says:
    @Karl
    https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=opera&hs=qK4&q=pakistan+mother+daughter+"burnt+alive"&oq=pakistan+mother+daughter+"burnt+alive"&gs_l=serp.3...11491.11491.0.12089.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..1.0.0.VAO3V9lZ61Y


    Rehmat, tell us about your plan to spread Muslim love thoughout the world....


    every time I think i'm about to run out of current-events horror stories from Rehmat's tribe, to throw at him..... they do it again

    Come on, an arranged marriage under threat of burning if the woman or girl refuses is the only hope for Rehmat to ever get his dick wet.

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  31. @Reg Cæsar

    Its simple. If the 1% has everything the 99% will have nothing.
     
    If the 1% has nothing, the 99% will also have nothing.

    Correct.
    The 1% hasn’t yet figured out that if the 99% has nothing, who’s going to buy their stuff and keep them in the 1%.

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    "The 99%" produce labor. Automation is continuously whittling away their production value, making them less necessary. "The 1%" produce goods and services. Automation is continuously increasing their production value, making them more necessary.

    If they need to hire fewer people, they can furnish more of their own needs. If they can furnish more of their own needs, they need fewer customers. If they need fewer customers, "the 99%" can go hang.

    Which I believe brings us back to the subject of declining life expectancy.
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  32. @boogerbently
    Correct.
    The 1% hasn't yet figured out that if the 99% has nothing, who's going to buy their stuff and keep them in the 1%.

    “The 99%” produce labor. Automation is continuously whittling away their production value, making them less necessary. “The 1%” produce goods and services. Automation is continuously increasing their production value, making them more necessary.

    If they need to hire fewer people, they can furnish more of their own needs. If they can furnish more of their own needs, they need fewer customers. If they need fewer customers, “the 99%” can go hang.

    Which I believe brings us back to the subject of declining life expectancy.

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    Robots don't BUY the products they're making.
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  33. Whoever says:

    There’s no, seems nowhere for them to go, because they don’t speak a foreign language. The Russians, the Greeks, most Europeans all somehow have to learn English in school. They’re able to get by in other countries. They’re not sure where on earth can the Americans go to?

    Hmm. If Russians, Greeks and most Europeans speak English, it enables them to get by in other countries, but if Americans speak English, it hampers their ability to get by in other countries.
    Got it.
    The rest of your analysis is equally cogent.

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  34. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Bill Gates has the answer. Every poor person should raise chickens.

    “They’re a good investment.”he says. “Suppose a new farmer starts with five hens. One of her neighbors owns a rooster to fertilize the hens’ eggs. After three months, she can have a flock of 40 chicks.”

    Wow. So after five years at that rate of multiplication “she” (or I guess it could be a fella, but let’s keep this PC) could have five trillion chicks, “which would have a sale price [when full grown] of $5 per chicken—which is typical in West Africa.”

    So there you are, being poor is just about being stupid really, and anyone following Bill’s easy to follow tip can become rich beyond the dreams of avarice in practically no time at all.

    Problem for some, though, may be getting that first chicken. So why doesn’t Bill give everyone in the United States a chicken to get them started. At five bucks a piece it would cost him practically nothing out of his $79 billion pile. And for those without a yard to keep a live chicken, no doubt a fresh frozen, oven-ready bird would be most acceptable.

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  35. A research team from Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health in New York estimates 875,000 deaths in the United States in year 2000 could be attributed to social factors related to poverty and income inequality.

    These things are also known as… IQ inequality!

    https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2015/12/23/higher-iq-means-longer-life/

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  36. @phil
    Hudson's at it again!

    According to the Economic Freedom Index (EFI), the most economically liberal places in the world are:
    (1) Hong Kong; (2) Singapore; (3) New Zealand; and (4) Switzerland. Average life expectancy in the four places is 84 (Hong Kong); 82 (Singapore); 81 (New Zealand); and 83 (Switzerland).

    The degree of economic liberty in the US has declined 8.2% since the year 2000.

    That has to do with IQ, not even economics.

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  37. David says:

    “875,000 deaths in the United States in the year 2000 could be attributed to clusters of social factors bound up with poverty and income inequality.”

    A guaranteed BS statistic. I’m afraid Hudson thrives on these.

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  38. Seneca says:
    @Big Bill
    I keep scratching my head. Hudson comes this close--THIS CLOSE--to saying mass immigration sucks ... but he just can't bring himself to say it.

    Americans being taxed to support tens of millions of dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks Third World peasants is cool.

    Americans being replaced by cheaper Chinese, Indian, and Pakistani workers is cool.

    But when Americans are forced to move overseas as a result, that is bad.

    I just don't get it.

    Yes it’s a puzzle….not sure I understand that blind spot.

    It’s very weird not even to discuss this aspect of the problem (flooding the labor market with cheap labor)

    As a result it is is hard to take him that seriously as a writer or as an intellect.

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  39. @Anonymous

    Now, the question is, in America, now that you’re having as a result of this polarization shorter lifespans, worse health, worse diets, where are the Americans going to emigrate? Nobody can figure that one out yet,” says Hudson.
     
    People have already figured that one out:

    "Jeff Bezos sees 'millions' of people living, working in space"

    https://au.pfinance.yahoo.com/fame-and-fortune/article/-/29544248/jeff-bezos-sees-millions-of-people-living-working-in-space/

    "Elon Musk Charts Path to Colonizing Mars Within a Decade"

    http://observer.com/2016/06/elon-musk-charts-path-to-colonizing-mars-within-a-decade/

    So then, TriStar Pictures got it backwards? Earth will be Elysium for the rich and the proles will have to settle for a life of labor in deep space while their bones lose mass and their brains are fried by gamma radiation.

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  40. @King George III
    "The 99%" produce labor. Automation is continuously whittling away their production value, making them less necessary. "The 1%" produce goods and services. Automation is continuously increasing their production value, making them more necessary.

    If they need to hire fewer people, they can furnish more of their own needs. If they can furnish more of their own needs, they need fewer customers. If they need fewer customers, "the 99%" can go hang.

    Which I believe brings us back to the subject of declining life expectancy.

    Robots don’t BUY the products they’re making.

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    A penny saved is a penny earned.
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  41. Mulegino1 says:
    @biz
    Dumb.


    Who promotes massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe while preventing non-Jews from entering “that shitty little country”.
     
    Who promotes massive immigration? Lots of people, of various ethnicities. Major proponents at the moment include Merkel, Hollande, and Obama. Is your contention that they are all Jews?

    Who promotes gay marriage everywhere except in Israel where it is illegal?

     

    Buzz, wrong. Gay marriage is legal in Israel. Well, as legal as any other civil marriage, meaning that gay marriages performed abroad are legal in Israel.

    Who is it that now gets 5 billion dollars a year in US taxpayer money?
     
    Israel and Egypt. And it s $3 billion, not 5. And every penny comes back to the US because it has to be spent on US manufactured equipment.

    Who runs the Federal Reserve?
     
    Janet Yellin

    Who runs Wall Street?
     
    Investment banks

    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
     
    Every mainstream historian in the world?

    Who dominates ‘academia’?
     
    Asians?

    Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?
     
    Saudi Arabia? It is certainly not Israel, given that Ariel Sharon urged George W against the Iraq war.

    With respect to the ludicrous 6 million narrative, “mainstream historians” must accept it in order to become and remain mainstream and keep their jobs. They obviously know who butters their bread.

    The legend can be quite easily dissected by an objective examination of the physical evidence or lack thereof. In this respect, the physical sites of Treblinka II and Babi Yar are representative of the entire false narrative, because there is nothing in either place to indicate that anything at all like what “mainstream historians” claim occurred.

    The Holocaust narrative is a blank check made out to Israel by the taxpayers of the EU and the U.S.

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    What about all of the missing people? What about the declared intention of the Nazi regime to carry out the final solution? What about the testimony of Allied troops up to and including General Eisenhower?

    Nobody denied the Holocaust until 25 years after it. Isn't that odd?

    , @Avery
    {With respect to the ludicrous 6 million narrative,}

    There is nothing ludicrous about Nazi crimes.
    Did Hitler invade Soviet Union: Yes or No?
    Did Nazis murder millions of Slavs: Yes or No?

    What is ludicrous is for neo-Nazi denialists and revisionists still trying to whitewash the colossal crimes of Nazis.
    You have an issue with Israel's war crimes? I do too.
    You have an issue with warmongering Neocon Jews? I do too.
    But when youse conflate everything and try to whitewash Nazi crimes - against Jews, against Slavs, against other Untermenschen - you are gonna hit a brick wall.
    Nazis invaders caused the deaths of ~25 million Soviet people: civilians and soldiers.


    What can be dissected is the stupidity of neo-Nazi revisionists: nothing else.

    Heil Hitler!
    Sieg Heil!
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  42. biz says:
    @Mulegino1
    With respect to the ludicrous 6 million narrative, "mainstream historians" must accept it in order to become and remain mainstream and keep their jobs. They obviously know who butters their bread.

    The legend can be quite easily dissected by an objective examination of the physical evidence or lack thereof. In this respect, the physical sites of Treblinka II and Babi Yar are representative of the entire false narrative, because there is nothing in either place to indicate that anything at all like what "mainstream historians" claim occurred.

    The Holocaust narrative is a blank check made out to Israel by the taxpayers of the EU and the U.S.

    What about all of the missing people? What about the declared intention of the Nazi regime to carry out the final solution? What about the testimony of Allied troops up to and including General Eisenhower?

    Nobody denied the Holocaust until 25 years after it. Isn’t that odd?

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    Found in other Unz threads.

    What missing people?

    "Simply put, Jews went where Jews are. They were pouring out of Europe after the war.
    Recall the 'Displaced Persons Camps'. Recall Jews flowing into Palestine, the US, S. America, Australia, Canada, on & on,

    recommended:

    J. Graf and the illogical canard: 'Where did Jews go then?' / & more
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8272

    WJC's Stephen Wise said 1,250,000 - 1,500,000 Polish Jews homeless in Europe, outside of Poland, & alive after WWII
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10191

    Concentration Camp Vital Statistics
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7581

    Revisionists have shown countless examples of 'where the Jews went', the Bletchley Park decrypts are just one example.

    also see: Soviets evacuating Jews:
    http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blog ... ab6440df0f

    the 'Nazis never denied the 'holocaust'' lie
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8165

    We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000
    But note that there is not a single verifiable excavated mass grave that can actually be SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka) even though Jews claim to know exactly where these allegedly enormous mass graves are.

    The massive numbers of so called "eyewitne$$es" are living testimony to fraudulence of the impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers'.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    www.codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com "

    6,000,000 since 1869
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    , @Mulegino1
    The declared intention of the National Socialist Regime was to remove the Jews from Europe via emigration and resettlement (Haavara Agreement, Madagascar Plan). This fact is attested to by authentic documentation, including the Luther Memorandum of the German Foreign Ministry of August, 1942, which stated authoritatively (inter alia):

    "At the end of the war, the Jews will have to leave Europe. This is the unalterable decision of the Fuehrer..."

    The western Allied troops (except for Obama's great uncle, apparently) never got anywhere near the alleged "extermination camps" which were allegedly located in the General Government (occupied Poland) such as Treblinka, Majdanek-Lublin, Sobibor, Belzec, in Upper Silesia (Auschwitz-Birkenau) and Wartheland (Chelmno). All of these locations were overrun by the Red Army, and the communist regimes who came into power built the phony "gas chamber" exhibits.

    Particularly telling is Eisenhower's publicized visit to the Nordhausen, where the victims of an Allied air raid were laid out in rows as if they were victims of German instigated genocide. Virtually all of those emaciated corpses and victims photographed by the Allied press were victims of starvation, disease and air raids and died in the final days of the war.

    Nobody denied the Holocaust for 25 years because the term "Holocaust" did not come into popular usage until the Israeli-Arab war of 1967.
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  43. Art says:
    @biz
    Dumb.


    Who promotes massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe while preventing non-Jews from entering “that shitty little country”.
     
    Who promotes massive immigration? Lots of people, of various ethnicities. Major proponents at the moment include Merkel, Hollande, and Obama. Is your contention that they are all Jews?

    Who promotes gay marriage everywhere except in Israel where it is illegal?

     

    Buzz, wrong. Gay marriage is legal in Israel. Well, as legal as any other civil marriage, meaning that gay marriages performed abroad are legal in Israel.

    Who is it that now gets 5 billion dollars a year in US taxpayer money?
     
    Israel and Egypt. And it s $3 billion, not 5. And every penny comes back to the US because it has to be spent on US manufactured equipment.

    Who runs the Federal Reserve?
     
    Janet Yellin

    Who runs Wall Street?
     
    Investment banks

    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?
     
    Every mainstream historian in the world?

    Who dominates ‘academia’?
     
    Asians?

    Who is it that demands we shed the blood of US troops for their interests?
     
    Saudi Arabia? It is certainly not Israel, given that Ariel Sharon urged George W against the Iraq war.

    Who runs the Federal Reserve?

    Janet Yellin

    Who runs Wall Street?

    Investment banks

    Who forces acceptance of the fictitious & impossible ’6M & gas chambers’?

    Every mainstream historian in the world?

    Who dominates ‘academia’?

    Asians?

    Say biz,

    Sorry but this is inadequate – this is very poor weak hasbara – we expect a higher level of Jew lairs on this site.

    If you want to run with the other Little Jew lemmings – you have to pick it up man.

    No extra shekels for you Little Jew.

    Art

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  44. fnn says:

    “Nobody denied the Holocaust until 25 years after it. Isn’t that odd?”

    FWIW, it was 1964:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Rassinier#1949.E2.80.931967:_The_author

    It was in 1964, with The Drama of the European Jews, that Rassinier came to the conclusion that there was never a policy of extermination by Nazi Germany. He criticized Raul Hilberg’s book The Destruction of the European Jews (1961), again critiqued witness testimony, and questioned the technical feasibility of the claimed methods of extermination. His critique of Doctor At Auschwitz by Myklos Nyiszli was partially confirmed twenty-five years later by the forensic historian Jean-Claude Pressac.

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  45. Avery says:
    @Mulegino1
    With respect to the ludicrous 6 million narrative, "mainstream historians" must accept it in order to become and remain mainstream and keep their jobs. They obviously know who butters their bread.

    The legend can be quite easily dissected by an objective examination of the physical evidence or lack thereof. In this respect, the physical sites of Treblinka II and Babi Yar are representative of the entire false narrative, because there is nothing in either place to indicate that anything at all like what "mainstream historians" claim occurred.

    The Holocaust narrative is a blank check made out to Israel by the taxpayers of the EU and the U.S.

    {With respect to the ludicrous 6 million narrative,}

    There is nothing ludicrous about Nazi crimes.
    Did Hitler invade Soviet Union: Yes or No?
    Did Nazis murder millions of Slavs: Yes or No?

    What is ludicrous is for neo-Nazi denialists and revisionists still trying to whitewash the colossal crimes of Nazis.
    You have an issue with Israel’s war crimes? I do too.
    You have an issue with warmongering Neocon Jews? I do too.
    But when youse conflate everything and try to whitewash Nazi crimes – against Jews, against Slavs, against other Untermenschen – you are gonna hit a brick wall.
    Nazis invaders caused the deaths of ~25 million Soviet people: civilians and soldiers.

    What can be dissected is the stupidity of neo-Nazi revisionists: nothing else.

    Heil Hitler!
    Sieg Heil!

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    "Did Hitler invade Soviet Union: Yes or No?"

    Yes. He did so to forestall or preempt the gigantic Soviet forces staging along the western frontiers of the USSR, staging for a massive invasion of Europe. See: "Icebreaker" and "The Chief Culprit" by Suvorov.

    "Did Nazis murder millions of Slavs: Yes or No?"

    No. A lot of Russians, western Slavs and Poles died in the war, but there was no policy of mass murder of Slavs, as there was no policy of mass murder of Europe's Jews. The largest massacres on record are those committed by the Soviet NKVD at, for example, Katyn and Vinnitsya. We have the mass graves to prove those.

    The Germans did carry out large anti-partisan reprisal shootings on the Eastern Front, but the numbers claimed have been hugely inflated by Allied propaganda. There are no enormous mass graves to be found of German victims of the same order as the mass graves at Katyn.

    The genocidal Allied aerial bombing campaign against Europe's civilian population dwarfs any atrocities realistically imputed to the National Socialist regime.
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  46. [Using multiple handles to hide your identity is prohibited here. Continue to do so, and all your future comments may be summarily trashed.]

    We need the whites to continue to have no or few kids to make room for the large African families that need to migrate to Europe and North America, since Africa is getting crowded. Is there somewhere where we can send the dwindling number of whites to make even more room?

    In an all Black country, we can have a paradise on earth. Like Haiti, Rwanda, Uganda, Nigeria, the list goes on and on. Now that is my kind of diversity!

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  47. Karl says:
    @Durruti
    Nice article by Hudson,

    The electoral circus between Zionist Terrorist Killery Clinton, and future Zionist Terrorist, The Donald Trump, is a misdirection Hollywood production.

    One reason there is so little resistance, is as follows.

    Russian 5th Column led by Putin.

    https://www.rt.com/business/345829-putin-netanyahu-israel-russia/

    The Betrayal of Russia's leaders - help NATO surround the diminished remnants of Russia. American Troops, Abrams Tanks & other ordinance is flowing into the Baltic Principalities, Georgia, 90% of the Ukraine, Sweden, Finland, Rumania, Bulgaria, Turkey, etc..

    Putin is the Judas Goat, and Zionist Netanyahoo is Judas, the Christ Seller who works for the Christ killers.

    Poor Palestinians, poor Native Americans, poor Planet.

    The Only Road is to Restore the Republic!

    Durruti
    The Anarchist Collective.

    >>> Judas, the Christ Seller who works for the Christ killers.

    I don’t know if there even existed a Historical Jesus, but if he did, his father didn’t send him to Nazareth to improve the carpentry

    He had a mission statement, and that was to die. Judas was the MOST irreplaceable of all the disciples.

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    Karl (Kautsky?),

    "I don’t know if there even existed a Historical Jesus, but if he did, his father didn’t send him to Nazareth to improve the carpentry"

    Vewwwy Clever.

    It is interesting that you failed to comment on any other portion of my - short- missive.

    Not a word about my descripton of Killery, The Donald, or Vladimir (not Ilyich) Putin. They actually exist (in some form), right now, in our time. Yet you have less time to discuss them and their Master Controllers, than you have to discuss "even if there existed a Historical Jesus,"

    You might be correct that Netenyahoo is "the MOST irreplaceable" of all the Rothschild Oligarchs' "disciples." However, you must state that fact, clearly, and with no digressions as to whether or not Bin Laden, the Historical so-called Constitutional, born somewhere, Barak (Hollywood) Obomber, The American Republic, or Jesus actually exist/ed.

    Your (activation) button is your desire to shift the discussion to how many angels may sit on the edge of a pin, and thereby show your intelligence, or cynicism. Or do you have a more sinister aim?

    You are one of the crowd, as the planet heads into a moral and physical apocalypse. The destruction of our American Republic on November 22, 1963, must be obfuscated behind a wall of phony Electoral Circuses, and phony inhuman human servants of the Devils. millions of post 1963, slaughtered, in Vietnam-2, Indonesia (1965)-1, Guatemala 100,000 (and rising), Nicaragua, Iraq (twice & ongoing)-1 Syria 1/4 million dead (& rising), Ukraine, Yugoslavia, Palestine, and dozens of other locals where the oligarchs continue their destruction and bloodletting and destruction of Free Peoples, Democratic Republics, and Hope and the Spirit of Humans.

    Yes,as with Obomber (& Bin Laden), Jesus' birth certificate may be questioned. [I am sure the first 2 were never born - but i digress, or do I?]. The first 2 were/are performed by the same Hollywood actor. As with Superman and Clark Kent, Obomber & Bin Laden have never been seen in the same place, at the same time.

    For our Democratic Republic, born in love of Country, and optimistic Human endeavor, may it be restored!

    Durruti, alias Peter J. Antonsen, (or is it the other way around?)
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  48. Art says:
    @Sherman
    Hey Homer

    America should be more like Pakistan.

    Now that's a successful country!

    Sherm

    America should be more like Pakistan.

    Now that’s a successful country!

    Hey Sherm,

    A friendly comment, if I may.

    This comparison argument that you make over and over is getting stale.

    You always find a country worse then Israel (granted it is hard to do) – and you always find some Gentile that has done worse than the Jew you are excusing (even back to the caveman).

    The argument “not as bad as” is an admission of doing wrong – EVERYTIME!

    Morality aside – this is BORING.

    Yours – Art

    p.s. How many Palestinians are you Jews going to kill for the 4 dead Israelis? (My sympathies to those 4 and their families – but not to Israel.)

    p.s. Are they selling viewing tickets around the village the gunman came from? I’ll bet the downwind tickets are the most expensive? Does it get any better than a whiff of fresh Palestinian blood?

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  49. Wally says: • Website
    @biz
    What about all of the missing people? What about the declared intention of the Nazi regime to carry out the final solution? What about the testimony of Allied troops up to and including General Eisenhower?

    Nobody denied the Holocaust until 25 years after it. Isn't that odd?

    Found in other Unz threads.

    What missing people?

    “Simply put, Jews went where Jews are. They were pouring out of Europe after the war.
    Recall the ‘Displaced Persons Camps’. Recall Jews flowing into Palestine, the US, S. America, Australia, Canada, on & on,

    recommended:

    J. Graf and the illogical canard: ‘Where did Jews go then?’ / & more

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8272

    WJC’s Stephen Wise said 1,250,000 – 1,500,000 Polish Jews homeless in Europe, outside of Poland, & alive after WWII

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10191

    Concentration Camp Vital Statistics

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7581

    Revisionists have shown countless examples of ‘where the Jews went’, the Bletchley Park decrypts are just one example.

    also see: Soviets evacuating Jews:
    http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blog … ab6440df0f

    the ‘Nazis never denied the ‘holocaust” lie

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8165

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000
    But note that there is not a single verifiable excavated mass grave that can actually be SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka) even though Jews claim to know exactly where these allegedly enormous mass graves are.

    The massive numbers of so called “eyewitne$$es” are living testimony to fraudulence of the impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
    http://www.codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    6,000,000 since 1869

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  50. Mulegino1 says:
    @biz
    What about all of the missing people? What about the declared intention of the Nazi regime to carry out the final solution? What about the testimony of Allied troops up to and including General Eisenhower?

    Nobody denied the Holocaust until 25 years after it. Isn't that odd?

    The declared intention of the National Socialist Regime was to remove the Jews from Europe via emigration and resettlement (Haavara Agreement, Madagascar Plan). This fact is attested to by authentic documentation, including the Luther Memorandum of the German Foreign Ministry of August, 1942, which stated authoritatively (inter alia):

    “At the end of the war, the Jews will have to leave Europe. This is the unalterable decision of the Fuehrer…”

    The western Allied troops (except for Obama’s great uncle, apparently) never got anywhere near the alleged “extermination camps” which were allegedly located in the General Government (occupied Poland) such as Treblinka, Majdanek-Lublin, Sobibor, Belzec, in Upper Silesia (Auschwitz-Birkenau) and Wartheland (Chelmno). All of these locations were overrun by the Red Army, and the communist regimes who came into power built the phony “gas chamber” exhibits.

    Particularly telling is Eisenhower’s publicized visit to the Nordhausen, where the victims of an Allied air raid were laid out in rows as if they were victims of German instigated genocide. Virtually all of those emaciated corpses and victims photographed by the Allied press were victims of starvation, disease and air raids and died in the final days of the war.

    Nobody denied the Holocaust for 25 years because the term “Holocaust” did not come into popular usage until the Israeli-Arab war of 1967.

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  51. Mulegino1 says:
    @Avery
    {With respect to the ludicrous 6 million narrative,}

    There is nothing ludicrous about Nazi crimes.
    Did Hitler invade Soviet Union: Yes or No?
    Did Nazis murder millions of Slavs: Yes or No?

    What is ludicrous is for neo-Nazi denialists and revisionists still trying to whitewash the colossal crimes of Nazis.
    You have an issue with Israel's war crimes? I do too.
    You have an issue with warmongering Neocon Jews? I do too.
    But when youse conflate everything and try to whitewash Nazi crimes - against Jews, against Slavs, against other Untermenschen - you are gonna hit a brick wall.
    Nazis invaders caused the deaths of ~25 million Soviet people: civilians and soldiers.


    What can be dissected is the stupidity of neo-Nazi revisionists: nothing else.

    Heil Hitler!
    Sieg Heil!

    “Did Hitler invade Soviet Union: Yes or No?”

    Yes. He did so to forestall or preempt the gigantic Soviet forces staging along the western frontiers of the USSR, staging for a massive invasion of Europe. See: “Icebreaker” and “The Chief Culprit” by Suvorov.

    “Did Nazis murder millions of Slavs: Yes or No?”

    No. A lot of Russians, western Slavs and Poles died in the war, but there was no policy of mass murder of Slavs, as there was no policy of mass murder of Europe’s Jews. The largest massacres on record are those committed by the Soviet NKVD at, for example, Katyn and Vinnitsya. We have the mass graves to prove those.

    The Germans did carry out large anti-partisan reprisal shootings on the Eastern Front, but the numbers claimed have been hugely inflated by Allied propaganda. There are no enormous mass graves to be found of German victims of the same order as the mass graves at Katyn.

    The genocidal Allied aerial bombing campaign against Europe’s civilian population dwarfs any atrocities realistically imputed to the National Socialist regime.

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    {Yes. He did so to forestall or preempt the gigantic Soviet forces staging along the western frontiers of the USSR, staging for a massive invasion of Europe. See: “Icebreaker” and “The Chief Culprit” by Suvorov.}

    Another revisionist lie to whitewash Nazi crimes, including the criminal, genocidal invasion of USSR. Fraud Suvorov's thesis has been thoroughly debunked by many historians and experts.
    See "Stumbling Colossus: The Red Army on the Eve of World War (Modern War Studies)" by Colonel David M. Glantz, an American military historian.

    {No. A lot of Russians, western Slavs and Poles died in the war, but there was no policy of mass murder of Slavs, as there was no policy of mass murder of Europe’s Jews.}

    Yes. ~10 million Soviet citizens, mostly Slavs were deliberately killed and murdered by Nazi invaders: they did not quote, died (of natural causes). ~3 million Poles (aside from Polish Jews) were murdered by Nazis.

    {The genocidal Allied aerial bombing campaign against Europe’s civilian population dwarfs any atrocities realistically imputed to the National Socialist regime.}

    Spoken like a true neo-Nazi.

    Heil Hitler!
    Sieg Heil!
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  52. Rehmat says:
    @Sherman
    Hey Homer

    America should be more like Pakistan.

    Now that's a successful country!

    Sherm

    Hey Bibi

    No sensible Pakistani would like to see United States, an Israeli colony, looks like Pakistan that has become a nuclear power without stealing technology and material from the US.

    In December 2010, the Washington-based Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy, in its 80-page submission to Obama administration had asked to delay the presentation of the National Medal of Technology and Innovation Award to Zalman Shapiro 89 (a Jew and former President of the Pittsburgh chapter of the Zionist Organization of America) over lingering questions about the theft and diversion of US weapons grade uranium to Israel.

    https://rehmat1.com/2011/01/10/us-award-for-stealing-bomb-grade-uranium-for-israel/

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  53. Rehmat says:
    @Karl
    https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&client=opera&hs=qK4&q=pakistan+mother+daughter+"burnt+alive"&oq=pakistan+mother+daughter+"burnt+alive"&gs_l=serp.3...11491.11491.0.12089.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..1.0.0.VAO3V9lZ61Y


    Rehmat, tell us about your plan to spread Muslim love thoughout the world....


    every time I think i'm about to run out of current-events horror stories from Rehmat's tribe, to throw at him..... they do it again

    Listen to your Jewish godfather Norman Gershman, stupid.

    “To me Islam is poetry. is science, is to be with the Divine. Islam is beauty,” – Norman Gershman, founder of “BESA, a code of honor” project.

    “I am a Jew of Islam because Judaism under the rule of the Crescent took a different course than that under the rule of the Cross. The Jews of Islam, although decreed by the Pact of Omar as dhimmis or second-class citizen, never experienced the same level of hatred, anti-Semitism or persecution, which were their daily bread in Christendom. They were not demonized as god’s (Jesus) killers and did not have to defend their religion in public deputations. They were not expelled en-masse on religious grounds from a Muslim country as they were from England, France and Catholic Spain,” Rabbi Haim Ovadia, Kahal Joseph Congregation in Los Angeles, California, January, 2008….

    https://rehmat1.com/2010/01/20/gods-house-muslims-saved-jews-from-nazis/

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    Meanwhile, outside of your ridiculous Taqqiya, Muslims actually treated the Jews that they ruled rather poorly:
    http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2016/01/persecution-of-jews-in-muslim-countries.html

    And then there is the inconvenient matter of the Mufti of the Arabs who would later adopt the name "Palestinians" being a major Nazi ally and lobbying hard to bring the 'final solution' to the Middle East.

    Oops.
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  54. @Anonymous
    17% of US households make 100k p.a. or more.

    28% make 25k or less. That does make for shorter lifespan.

    “28% make 25k or less. That does make for shorter lifespan.”

    And government makes the cost of living at least twice what it should be.

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  55. Avery says:
    @Mulegino1
    "Did Hitler invade Soviet Union: Yes or No?"

    Yes. He did so to forestall or preempt the gigantic Soviet forces staging along the western frontiers of the USSR, staging for a massive invasion of Europe. See: "Icebreaker" and "The Chief Culprit" by Suvorov.

    "Did Nazis murder millions of Slavs: Yes or No?"

    No. A lot of Russians, western Slavs and Poles died in the war, but there was no policy of mass murder of Slavs, as there was no policy of mass murder of Europe's Jews. The largest massacres on record are those committed by the Soviet NKVD at, for example, Katyn and Vinnitsya. We have the mass graves to prove those.

    The Germans did carry out large anti-partisan reprisal shootings on the Eastern Front, but the numbers claimed have been hugely inflated by Allied propaganda. There are no enormous mass graves to be found of German victims of the same order as the mass graves at Katyn.

    The genocidal Allied aerial bombing campaign against Europe's civilian population dwarfs any atrocities realistically imputed to the National Socialist regime.

    {Yes. He did so to forestall or preempt the gigantic Soviet forces staging along the western frontiers of the USSR, staging for a massive invasion of Europe. See: “Icebreaker” and “The Chief Culprit” by Suvorov.}

    Another revisionist lie to whitewash Nazi crimes, including the criminal, genocidal invasion of USSR. Fraud Suvorov’s thesis has been thoroughly debunked by many historians and experts.
    See “Stumbling Colossus: The Red Army on the Eve of World War (Modern War Studies)” by Colonel David M. Glantz, an American military historian.

    {No. A lot of Russians, western Slavs and Poles died in the war, but there was no policy of mass murder of Slavs, as there was no policy of mass murder of Europe’s Jews.}

    Yes. ~10 million Soviet citizens, mostly Slavs were deliberately killed and murdered by Nazi invaders: they did not quote, died (of natural causes). ~3 million Poles (aside from Polish Jews) were murdered by Nazis.

    {The genocidal Allied aerial bombing campaign against Europe’s civilian population dwarfs any atrocities realistically imputed to the National Socialist regime.}

    Spoken like a true neo-Nazi.

    Heil Hitler!
    Sieg Heil!

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  56. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Seems there’s a host of interconnected issues lowering life expectancy. When I observe the grocery carts of my neighbors, along w/ the ever-increasing population of the obese carting themselves around in motorized chairs in order to leisurely select their preferred corn syrup fix, I wonder how our life expectancy is above 60. Big Pharma & the medical industry responds w/ myriad drugs addressing the symptoms, because they know the masses can’t (won’t) discipline their destructive habits. Some blame statism or corporatism, others Big Ag, others Big This or That.

    I blame us … more specifically original sin; pride & self-absorption seem to be at the bottom of this.

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  57. Mulegino1 says:

    Not only has Suvorov not been debunked, the notion that Fall Barbarossa was a preemptive or preventative strike against gigantic forces massing on the western frontiers of the Soviet Union, staging for an invasion of Europe (Operation Thunder) is now gaining widespread acceptance.

    Why were the bulk of the Soviet forces deployed in offensive formations in the Lvov and Byalistock salients? Why was the most powerful Soviet force, the 9th Rifle Corps, deployed on the Romanian border within a hundred miles or so of the Ploesti oil fields?

    Why were all front line Soviet aircraft sitting on their tarmacs, instead of being dispersed and camouflaged, as would be the case in a defensive deployment?

    What else can explain the encirclement and netting of hundreds of thousands of prisoners made by the Wehrmacht and its allies during the first few months of Barbarossa? The Russians were excellent and the toughest physical soldiers in the world, as was proven by the defense of the Brest Fortress. Hitler was so impressed by the courage of the Brest defenders that he insisted they get good treatment as p.o.w.’s (a treatment not reciprocated by the Soviets, who refused to abide by the Geneva Conventions).

    Again, there is no evidence that the Germans had a policy of murdering Slavs (or Jews) in cold blood. There were anti-partisan reprisals, there was Stalin’s scorched earth policy, there was starvation, and there was war. But there was no deliberate genocide. There are no mass graves, there is no physical evidence. The Nuremberg Tribunals were show trials, and did not constitute the administration of impartial justice.

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    {Not only has Suvorov not been debunked...}

    Of course the traitor has been debunked.
    And the Earth is still round, despite what desperate neo-Nazi revisionists want to convince people that it is flat.

    Heil Hitler!
    Sieg Heil!
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  58. Durruti says:
    @Karl
    >>> Judas, the Christ Seller who works for the Christ killers.


    I don't know if there even existed a Historical Jesus, but if he did, his father didn't send him to Nazareth to improve the carpentry

    He had a mission statement, and that was to die. Judas was the MOST irreplaceable of all the disciples.

    Karl (Kautsky?),

    “I don’t know if there even existed a Historical Jesus, but if he did, his father didn’t send him to Nazareth to improve the carpentry”

    Vewwwy Clever.

    It is interesting that you failed to comment on any other portion of my – short- missive.

    Not a word about my descripton of Killery, The Donald, or Vladimir (not Ilyich) Putin. They actually exist (in some form), right now, in our time. Yet you have less time to discuss them and their Master Controllers, than you have to discuss “even if there existed a Historical Jesus,”

    You might be correct that Netenyahoo is “the MOST irreplaceable” of all the Rothschild Oligarchs‘ “disciples.” However, you must state that fact, clearly, and with no digressions as to whether or not Bin Laden, the Historical so-called Constitutional, born somewhere, Barak (Hollywood) Obomber, The American Republic, or Jesus actually exist/ed.

    Your (activation) button is your desire to shift the discussion to how many angels may sit on the edge of a pin, and thereby show your intelligence, or cynicism. Or do you have a more sinister aim?

    You are one of the crowd, as the planet heads into a moral and physical apocalypse. The destruction of our American Republic on November 22, 1963, must be obfuscated behind a wall of phony Electoral Circuses, and phony inhuman human servants of the Devils. millions of post 1963, slaughtered, in Vietnam-2, Indonesia (1965)-1, Guatemala 100,000 (and rising), Nicaragua, Iraq (twice & ongoing)-1 Syria 1/4 million dead (& rising), Ukraine, Yugoslavia, Palestine, and dozens of other locals where the oligarchs continue their destruction and bloodletting and destruction of Free Peoples, Democratic Republics, and Hope and the Spirit of Humans.

    Yes,as with Obomber (& Bin Laden), Jesus’ birth certificate may be questioned. [I am sure the first 2 were never born - but i digress, or do I?]. The first 2 were/are performed by the same Hollywood actor. As with Superman and Clark Kent, Obomber & Bin Laden have never been seen in the same place, at the same time.

    For our Democratic Republic, born in love of Country, and optimistic Human endeavor, may it be restored!

    Durruti, alias Peter J. Antonsen, (or is it the other way around?)

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  59. biz says:
    @Rehmat
    Listen to your Jewish godfather Norman Gershman, stupid.

    "To me Islam is poetry. is science, is to be with the Divine. Islam is beauty,” – Norman Gershman, founder of “BESA, a code of honor” project.

    “I am a Jew of Islam because Judaism under the rule of the Crescent took a different course than that under the rule of the Cross. The Jews of Islam, although decreed by the Pact of Omar as dhimmis or second-class citizen, never experienced the same level of hatred, anti-Semitism or persecution, which were their daily bread in Christendom. They were not demonized as god’s (Jesus) killers and did not have to defend their religion in public deputations. They were not expelled en-masse on religious grounds from a Muslim country as they were from England, France and Catholic Spain,” Rabbi Haim Ovadia, Kahal Joseph Congregation in Los Angeles, California, January, 2008....

    https://rehmat1.com/2010/01/20/gods-house-muslims-saved-jews-from-nazis/

    Meanwhile, outside of your ridiculous Taqqiya, Muslims actually treated the Jews that they ruled rather poorly:

    http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2016/01/persecution-of-jews-in-muslim-countries.html

    And then there is the inconvenient matter of the Mufti of the Arabs who would later adopt the name “Palestinians” being a major Nazi ally and lobbying hard to bring the ‘final solution’ to the Middle East.

    Oops.

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    And then there is the inconvenient matter of the Mufti of the Arabs who would later adopt the name “Palestinians” being a major Nazi ally and lobbying hard to bring the ‘final solution’ to the Middle East.
     
    Hey biz,

    Your Big Jew Netanyahu tried to float that lie and he was laughed of the stage – even by Jews.

    Little Jew - you need to tighten up your hasbara – attend some more classes.

    Art
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  60. Art says:
    @biz
    Meanwhile, outside of your ridiculous Taqqiya, Muslims actually treated the Jews that they ruled rather poorly:
    http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2016/01/persecution-of-jews-in-muslim-countries.html

    And then there is the inconvenient matter of the Mufti of the Arabs who would later adopt the name "Palestinians" being a major Nazi ally and lobbying hard to bring the 'final solution' to the Middle East.

    Oops.

    And then there is the inconvenient matter of the Mufti of the Arabs who would later adopt the name “Palestinians” being a major Nazi ally and lobbying hard to bring the ‘final solution’ to the Middle East.

    Hey biz,

    Your Big Jew Netanyahu tried to float that lie and he was laughed of the stage – even by Jews.

    Little Jew – you need to tighten up your hasbara – attend some more classes.

    Art

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    Here you go champ:

    https://youtu.be/Cy3aDIatrY0

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  61. biz says:
    @Art

    And then there is the inconvenient matter of the Mufti of the Arabs who would later adopt the name “Palestinians” being a major Nazi ally and lobbying hard to bring the ‘final solution’ to the Middle East.
     
    Hey biz,

    Your Big Jew Netanyahu tried to float that lie and he was laughed of the stage – even by Jews.

    Little Jew - you need to tighten up your hasbara – attend some more classes.

    Art

    Here you go champ:

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  62. @boogerbently
    Robots don't BUY the products they're making.

    A penny saved is a penny earned.

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  63. Avery says:
    @Mulegino1
    Not only has Suvorov not been debunked, the notion that Fall Barbarossa was a preemptive or preventative strike against gigantic forces massing on the western frontiers of the Soviet Union, staging for an invasion of Europe (Operation Thunder) is now gaining widespread acceptance.

    Why were the bulk of the Soviet forces deployed in offensive formations in the Lvov and Byalistock salients? Why was the most powerful Soviet force, the 9th Rifle Corps, deployed on the Romanian border within a hundred miles or so of the Ploesti oil fields?

    Why were all front line Soviet aircraft sitting on their tarmacs, instead of being dispersed and camouflaged, as would be the case in a defensive deployment?

    What else can explain the encirclement and netting of hundreds of thousands of prisoners made by the Wehrmacht and its allies during the first few months of Barbarossa? The Russians were excellent and the toughest physical soldiers in the world, as was proven by the defense of the Brest Fortress. Hitler was so impressed by the courage of the Brest defenders that he insisted they get good treatment as p.o.w.'s (a treatment not reciprocated by the Soviets, who refused to abide by the Geneva Conventions).

    Again, there is no evidence that the Germans had a policy of murdering Slavs (or Jews) in cold blood. There were anti-partisan reprisals, there was Stalin's scorched earth policy, there was starvation, and there was war. But there was no deliberate genocide. There are no mass graves, there is no physical evidence. The Nuremberg Tribunals were show trials, and did not constitute the administration of impartial justice.

    {Not only has Suvorov not been debunked…}

    Of course the traitor has been debunked.
    And the Earth is still round, despite what desperate neo-Nazi revisionists want to convince people that it is flat.

    Heil Hitler!
    Sieg Heil!

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  64. Americans will always have choices. Yes, it is quite bad right now. BUT – there are TONS of resources. Everything depends on your attitude / perspective. Many Americans will have to learn to live like Europeans – instead of having two cars per household, they’ll have one or none, they will downsize to apartments (btw, the insides of some moderately priced American RVs look better than many studios in downtown London), bike more, instead of 3-5 kids, have 1.7.

    The patriots will move to independent communities in Idaho (already happening). Some will live off the grid. The SWPLS will leave the cities and move to small towns or the country side (already happening).

    This will create a financial crunch for sure but Americans will not be forced to emigrate. The key here is to keep the federal government in check. And, yes, the neo-liberal economic model needs to be abandoned.

    Regarding longevity – there are definitely parallels with the fall of the Soviet Union. Closing big factories rapidly (as in the USSR) or even gradually (as in the US) is not a good idea. The question here – does America need libertarianism or National Socialism? It certainly doesn’t need a banker oligarchy / corporatocracy – those are un-American.

    The food in the US is a big problem, but there are many good signs (like the locavore movement). In the US, it’s a JOB to eat healthy and not be obese (unlike in Eastern Europe where you only have to try a bit to be somewhat ok looking). Also, popping too many pills can give really bad side effects and be bad for your liver. There are also new cancers due to overprocessed food. I see many Americans waking up to this BS, but many are still victims. The sad part is that some make a lot of money out of it and are too invested in it.

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