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Universally, Trump was depicted as an anti-establishment candidate. Washington and Wall Street hated him, and the media were deployed to vilify him endlessly. If they could not discredit Trump enough, surely they would steal the election from him. Some even suggested Trump would be assassinated.

Acting the part, Trump charged repeatedly that the election was rigged, and he was right, of course. During the primaries, Hillary Clinton received debate questions in advance from CNN. More seriously, 30 states used voting machines that could easily be hacked.

A leaked tape of Trump making obscene comments about groping women became further proof that the establishment was out to get him. In spite of all this, Trump managed to win by a landslide, so what happened?

To steal an American election, one only needs to tamper with votes in two or three critical states, and since Hillary didn’t win, we must conclude that she was never the establishment’s chosen puppet. As Trump claimed, the fix was in, all right, except that it was rigged in his favor, as born out by the fact.

While everybody else yelped that Trump would never be allowed to win, I begged to differ. After the Orlando false flag shooting on June 12th, 2016, I wrote:

In 2008, Obama was touted as a political outsider who will hose away all of the rot and bloody criminality of the Bush years. He turned out to be a deft move by our ruling class. Though fools still refuse to see it, Obama is a perfect servant of our military banking complex. Now, Trump is being trumpeted as another political outsider.

A Trump presidency will temporarily appease restless, lower class whites, while serving as a magnet for liberal anger. This will buy our ruling class time as they continue to wage war abroad while impoverishing Americans back home. Like Obama, Trump won’t fulfill any of his election promises, and this, too, will be blamed on bipartisan politics.

On September 24th, I doubled down:

Mind-fucked, most Americans can’t even see that an American president’s only task is to disguise the deep state’s intentions. Chosen by the deep state to explain away its crimes, our president’s pronouncements are nearly always contradicted by the deep state’s actions. While the president talks of peace, democracy, racial harmony, prosperity for Main Street and going after banksters, etc., the deep state wages endless war, stages meaningless elections, stokes racial hatred, bankrupts nearly all Americans and enables massive Wall Street crimes, etc.

Only the infantile will imagine the president as any kind of savior or, even more hilariously, anti-establishment. Since the deep state won’t even tolerate a renegade reporter at, say, the San Jose Mercury News, how can you expect a deep state’s enemy to land in the White House?! It cannot happen.

A presidential candidate will promise to fix all that’s wrong with our government, and this stance, this appearance, is actually very useful for the deep state, for it gives Americans hope. Promising everything, Obama delivered nothing. So who do you think is being primed by the deep state to be our next false savior?

Who benefits from false flag terrorist attacks blamed on Muslims? Who gains when blacks riot? Why is the Democratic Party propping up a deeply-despised and terminally ill war criminal? More personable Bernie Sanders was nixed by the deep state since it had another jester in mind.

The first presidential debate is Monday. Under stress, Hillary’s eyes will dart in separate directions. Coughing nonstop for 90 minutes, her highness will hack up a gazillion unsecured emails. Her head will jerk spasmodically, plop onto the floor and, though decapitated, continue to gush platitudes and lies. “A Very Impressive Performance,” CNBC and CNN will announce. Come November, though, Trump will be installed because his constituency needs to be temporarily pacified. The deep state knows that white people are pissed.

The media were out to get Trump, pundits from across the political spectrum kept repeating, but the truth is that the media made Trump. Long before the election, Trump became a household name, thanks to the media.

Your average American can’t name any other real estate developer, casino owner or even his own senators, but he has known Trump since forever. For more than a decade, Trump was a reality TV star, with two of his children also featured regularly on The Apprentice. Trump’s “You’re fired” and his hair became iconic. Trump appeared on talk shows, had cameo roles in movies and owned the Miss Universe pageant. In 2011, Obama joked that Trump as president would deck out the White House in garish fashion, with his own name huge on the façade. The suave, slick prez roasted Trump again in 2016. Trump has constantly been in the limelight.

It’s true that during the presidential campaign, Trump received mostly negative press, but this only ramped up support among his core constituency. Joe Sixpacks had long seen the media as not just against everything they cherished, but against them as people, so the more the media attacked Trump, the more popular he became among the white working class.

Like politicians, casinos specialize in empty promises. Trump, then, is a master hustler, just like Obama, and with help from the media, this New York billionaire became a darling of the flyover states. Before his sudden transformation, Trump was certainly an insider. He donated $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation, and Bill and Hillary attended his third wedding. Golf buddies, The Donald and Bill were also friends with one Jeffrey Epstein, owner of the infamous Lolita Express and a sex orgy, sex slave island in the Caribbean.

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In 2002, New York Magazine published “Jeffrey Epstein: International Money of Mystery.” This asskissing piece begins, “He comes with cash to burn, a fleet of airplanes, and a keen eye for the ladies—to say nothing of a relentless brain that challenges Nobel Prize-winning scientists across the country—and for financial markets around the world.”

Trump is quoted, “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Bill Clinton shouts out, “Jeffrey is both a highly successful financier and a committed philanthropist with a keen sense of global markets and an in-depth knowledge of twenty-first-century science. I especially appreciated his insights and generosity during the recent trip to Africa to work on democratization, empowering the poor, citizen service, and combating HIV/AIDS.”

Epstein gushes back, “If you were a boxer at the downtown gymnasium at 14th Street and Mike Tyson walked in, your face would have the same look as these foreign leaders had when Clinton entered the room. He is the world’s greatest politician.”

Even during a very nasty election campaign, Trump stayed clear of Clinton’s association with Epstein because he himself had been chummy with the convicted pervert. Trump also never brought up the Clintons’ drug running in Mena or the many mysterious deaths of those whose existence inconvenienced their hold on power.

With eight years in the White House, plus stints as a senator then secretary of state, Clinton is considered the ultimate insider. Though a novice politician, Trump is also an insider, and it’s a grand joke of the establishment that they’ve managed to convince Joe Sixpacks everywhere that Trump will save them.

Knowing how angry the working class has become, the deep state could not install Hillary, for that would have been a tiresome rehash of another Clinton presidency. With NAFTA, Bill launched the job offshoring that has wrecked this country, and those most affected by it, working class whites, know damn well who’s responsible. The Clinton brand has become anathema to middle America.

While Clinton says America is already great, Trump promises to make America great again, but the decline of the US will only accelerate. Our manufacturing base is handicapped because American workers will not put up with Chinese wages, insanely long hours or living in cramped factory dormitories. In a global economy, those who can suck it up best get the jobs.

On the foreign front, America’s belligerence will not ease up under a Trump presidency, for without a hyper kinetic military to browbeat and bomb, the world will stop lending us money. The US doesn’t just wage wars to fatten the military banking complex, but to prop up the US Dollar and prevent our economy from collapsing. The empire yields tangible benefits for even the lowliest Americans.

With his livelihood vaporized, the poor man does not care for LGBT rights, the glass ceiling or climate change. Supplementing his wretched income with frequent treks to the church pantry, if not blood bank, he needs immediate relief. It’s a shame he’s staking his hopes on an imposter.

The deep state ushered in Trump because he’s clearly their most useful decoy. As the country hopes in vain, the crooked men behind the curtain will go on with business as usual. Trump is simply an Obama for a different demographic. Nothing will change for the better.

Linh Dinh is the author of two books of stories, five of poems, and a novel, Love Like Hate. He’s tracking our deteriorating socialscape through his frequently updated photo blog, Postcards from the End of America.

 
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  1. Nice try Linh, but I’m not buying it. Trump is already putting his program together and its key points were published yesterday. And in regards to the mentally deranged pervs out there, Trump paraded around on stage at one of his rallies carrying a “LGBT’s for Trump” banner over his head and the crowd cheered him on. Your fag friends need to stop listening to the lying LSM.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-10/trump-reveals-policy-goals-building-wall-end-war-coal-repeal-obamacare-dismantle-dod

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    • Replies: @boogerbently
    "With NAFTA, Bill launched the job offshoring that has wrecked this country, and those most affected by it, working class whites, know damn well who’s responsible. The Clinton brand has become anathema to middle America."

    They're already promoting Chelsea in politics. And she'll succeed. Because of name recognition.
    , @boogerbently
    From PCR:

    Some believe that Trump is a ruse conducted by the Oligarchy. However, as Hillary is the bought-and-paid-for representative of the Oligarchy, such an elaborate ruse is unnecessary. It is preferable for the Oligarchy to win on its own platform than to install a president on the opposite platform and then change him around. Another sellout increases the anger of the people. If Hillary had won, the Oligarchy would have had the voters’ mandate for their platform.
    , @pyrrhus
    We'll see. I'm expecting peace with Russia and a resolution of the horrible messes in the Ukraine and Syria, created by Hillary and Obama. If those things happen, then you will be definitely wrong Linh....
    , @slorter
    The corporate elite are firmly in control!
    http://www.blacklistednews.com/Meet_the_Neocons%2C_911_Criminals_and_Goldman_Bankers_On_Team_Trump/55231/0/38/38/Y/M.html
    , @Truth

    Nice try Linh, but I’m not buying it. Trump is already putting his program together and its key points were published yesterday
     
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  2. Mr. Dinh is the most honest, clearest eyed, and shrewdest social commentator I’ve come across, not only at this site, but at any other. I fear his analysis on this is, as usual, spot on.
    The whole Trump Phenomena always has had, for me, an aura of bogusness.

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  3. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    This piece has the disturbing ring of truth.

    My state just passed medical marijuana, but I don’t enjoy pot.

    Is there a state that allows medical Heroin?

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    • Replies: @Fran Macadam
    It's called Methadone.
    , @nitesinger
    I agree, medical heroin may become available if Ryan's plan to get rid of Medicare and gut SS comes to pass, only one dose though, your last.

    And the cabinet of insiders, oil millionaires, bankers, and Palin?! does not bode well for cleaning house, tho I have never been a believer, could not vote for either candidate went 3rd party.
    I know there are a number of viable free energy devices, and major advances in wind & solar, but looks lke Trump's going backwards, more pipelines, drilling air and water trashing $$ in a CEO'spocket last century methods.
    Oh, and major tax breaks to the uber wealthy & corporations. Trickle (pour) up economics.
  4. Anything’s possible, but this seems like it would be a game too complicated.

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    • Replies: @MMM
    I agree, a game too complicated. Unnecessarily. It's easy to see why Linh Dinh sizes up the situation as he does though. Putin is also distrusted because he keeps his options open, but he is loyal to Russia and its people. Trump is in a compromised, deeply divided country.
  5. Let me get you right, Mr. Din. So, first, the Deep State people had concluded that certain white people are pissed and that they needed to be pacified. Next, they needed to figure out how to effect the pacification of the white working class. They knew that the media looked down upon them Joe Six Pack folks and that they, at least to some extent, supported Donald Trump, a well-known personality. So, now let’s get the media go after Trump. The working class will feel sympathy for Trump, another entity persecuted by the media. Trump’s support among the white working class will increase so much that he can easily grab the presidency. Which is indeed what seems to have happened . . . and nobody is asking any difficult questions about the Deep State and its machinations. See how diabolically clever the Deep State is! Some baby talk, Mr. Din! Get a life!

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    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It's not that complicated.

    The elites control both sides. Always.

    That's why Bush/Clinton/Obama saw almost no change at all except for superficial ones at best.

    The only way for the elites to win is to play divide and conquer and that is exactly what they are doing.
    , @Truth

    Let me get you right, Mr. Din. So, first, the Deep State people had concluded that certain white people are pissed and that they needed to be pacified. Next, they needed to figure out how to effect the pacification of the white working class. They knew that the media looked down upon them Joe Six Pack folks and that they, at least to some extent, supported Donald Trump, a well-known personality. So, now let’s get the media go after Trump. The working class will feel sympathy for Trump, another entity persecuted by the media. Trump’s support among the white working class will increase so much that he can easily grab the presidency.
     
    Dude, as easily as you picked that one up, I guess there is hope for us after all.
  6. I enjoy Dinh’s interviews with marginal, often wacked-out Americans, but I never realized he was one of them.
    Really; Trump won in a landslide? Odd sort of arithmetic there. The Orlando shooting was a false flag? The ruling class vilified Trump, but in reality they loved him and the only reason they did everything to defeat him was because they wanted him to win? The omnipotent deep state knew Clinton couldn’t win, but instead of simply plugging someone else into her place they instead threw the election to Trump by doing everything they could to defeat him?
    I have a suggestion for the subject of his next Obscured American interview: himself. If he can do such a great job of arguing with himself in this piece, he should have no trouble interviewing himself.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Yes, though I usually enjoy reading Linh Dinh he's pedling fairy tales here which suggest that he knows as much about a Deep State as about witches and elves.
  7. Linh,

    I’m a strong Trump supporter … but I had similar thoughts about the Deep State changing sides in the middle of the contest in the face of the email onslaught against Hillary. I noticed a shift in tone. If Hillary had been elected, there was the credible risk that, with additional evidence, she might be indicted before she was inaugurated or impeached soon after she was inaugurated.

    Trump doesn’t have to be part of a conspiracy for the levers of power to be slightly changed en route to the election. And post election, there are myriad ways to keep Trump under control, just as Obama was kept under control.

    At the end of the day, there is the “nuclear” option that any president should take to heart … and that is the Kennedy assassination. That lesson should be lost on no one. I believe that was always in the back of Obama’s mind, especially given that he came from nowhere and was knowingly elevated to the presidency by those same forces.

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    • Replies: @tim s
    @TheJester

    I don't think the deep state switches sides. I think they have a plan A, B....N. They are not omnipotent or omniscient, but pretty damn good for what they are, and can last longer than most.
    They play sides against each other very well, but as always, they've got a tiger by the tail.


    Trump is playing with the big boys now, and he has a family as well as business interests. I'd imagine that, with the Kennedy's in mind, he will only push what he may dream of so far. And he may be like Obama, willing to play his part in the great game, benefitting from it, and moving on. I hope not, but I've hoped before. I think there is more than a slight possibility that Linh has it right. For every 100 wild conspiracy theories, there surely are a few that fall into the Truth is Stranger than Fiction category, and we largely live in a world of fiction, psychologically at least.

    The DS would have no problem throwing HRC under the bus. The Clintons have outlived their usefulness to the Deep State, I'd imagine. This was her grand finale in their game. You might feel some pity for her...Oh who am I kidding, I want to see her tarred & feathered as much as anyone....
    , @dcite
    He didn't "come from nowhere." He'd been chosen years before. A Russian journalist said with certainty in the early '90s, "you will have a black president in a few years." Maybe she had a crystal ball, or saw the trends, or maybe was just had access to the network that really decides these things. Obama had a CIA connection at least on the Dunham side even before birth. A mediocrity like him doesn't get into Columbia (though private investigators could find no evidence of his ever having been a student there), or become editor of the Harvard Law Review with virtually no accomplishments or grades to recommend him, unless you are very connected. You want to see what matters to those who decide these things, look at the events with an official narrative that keeps getting repeated even unto Wikipedia, and yet people who research it, know it went down differently. And they keep it up for decades--that's how you know the event's significance, by how long and hard the media/politicians/anybody with a stake-in-it, lies about it.

    As for the Clinton votes, there was so much voter fraud on the Dems part, that the fact Trump won at all is evidence of a landslide of popular feeling.
  8. Linh, you’re sounding like the Asian Alex Jones.

    I agree that Trump is unlikely to bring the massive changes he promised, but the media was not building him up as president. They didn’t expect him to run for office when they aired his reality shows, and the “deep state” is one of those poorly defined, unfalsifiable entities people blame for everything.

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    • Agree: Marcus, Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Some of the media attacked him, some of the media shilled for him.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    You inspire a wish to try coining synonyms or equivalent expressions for "Deep State". So here's trying.

    1. People who's names I don't know and couldn't care less about me and mine;
    2. People running the most important
    functions of government, and institutions and corporations which influence government but about which I cannot say which are active at any given time, who runs them or who in them are the contacts with government;
    3. Very bad people who are also influential with government;
    4. People responsible for government decisions I don't understand;
    5. All the people who make decisions that remain legally protected from disclosure for some 15 years or more.....

  9. Only the infantile will imagine the president as any kind of savior or, even more hilariously, anti-establishment. Since the deep state won’t even tolerate a renegade reporter at, say, the San Jose Mercury News, how can you expect a deep state’s enemy to land in the White House?! It cannot happen.

    Good point, there. I’ve been surprised by Paul Craig Roberts’ take on the Trump victory.

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  10. LD I understand the doubt. If he meant it, you are wrong about what can be done to improve the lives of the working class.

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  11. @Mao Cheng Ji
    Anything's possible, but this seems like it would be a game too complicated.

    I agree, a game too complicated. Unnecessarily. It’s easy to see why Linh Dinh sizes up the situation as he does though. Putin is also distrusted because he keeps his options open, but he is loyal to Russia and its people. Trump is in a compromised, deeply divided country.

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    • Replies: @MMM
    Paul Craig Roberts sums it up:

    "Note: Some believe that Trump is a ruse conducted by the Oligarchy. However, as Hillary is the bought-and-paid-for representative of the Oligarchy, such an elaborate ruse is unnecessary. It is preferable for the Oligarchy to win on its own platform than to install a president on the opposite platform and then change him around. Another sellout increases the anger of the people. If Hillary had won, the Oligarchy would have had the voters’ mandate for their platform."

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/11/11/the-anti-trump-protesters-are-tools-of-the-oligarchy-paul-craig-roberts/
    , @kevin
    Putin is no different from the Zionist who control the West.
    he oppresses own people(slavs) while licking ass of the supremacists Jews



    ethnic Russian is a people on the verge of extinction and big part of it is the fault of your beloved Putin.

    _ You knew that only 40% of the Russian population is white / Slavic?
    _ You know that majoritary ethnic Russian women are married out of your (40% of Muscovites for example) race?

    You knew that in Russia have 2 million abortions every year and the vast majority are of ethnic Russian women married with ethnic Russian man ?
    _ You knew during the Putin government in less than 10 years 15 million illegal immigrants settled around Moscow?
    - You knew Putin created laws that criminalize criticism of the immigration and because of this more than 2000 Russian nationalists today live in penitentiaries?
    you knew Putin banned the existence of political parties and nationalist movements so that many existing parties were extinguished by operation of law?
  12. Could be. I do know who Sheldon Adelson is, however.

    Only way to send a message of discontent, though. And almost didn’t happen, only narrowly.

    They still would have preferred the empty pantsuit.

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  13. @Anonymous
    This piece has the disturbing ring of truth.

    My state just passed medical marijuana, but I don't enjoy pot.

    Is there a state that allows medical Heroin?

    It’s called Methadone.

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  14. My hand lingered over the name “Gary Johnson” before casting a very shaky vote for Trump and against The Liar. While on the one hand I was glad that woman wasn’t elected, on the other hand I have no illusions whatsoever about Trump to do much of anything. Our problems are deep-seated and beyond the ability of government to solve.

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    • Replies: @Exudd1
    Well said, Connecticut Farmer. Thanks.
    , @melendwyr
    But not beyond the ability of government to make worse! Our best political minds are working to do what they can even as we speak.
    , @jacques sheete

    Our problems are deep-seated and beyond the ability of government to solve.
     
    In fact, it's worse than that. Contrary to all the mythology, big government exists only to to solve the problems of the ruling (moneyed) classes.
  15. @TheJester
    Linh,

    I'm a strong Trump supporter ... but I had similar thoughts about the Deep State changing sides in the middle of the contest in the face of the email onslaught against Hillary. I noticed a shift in tone. If Hillary had been elected, there was the credible risk that, with additional evidence, she might be indicted before she was inaugurated or impeached soon after she was inaugurated.

    Trump doesn't have to be part of a conspiracy for the levers of power to be slightly changed en route to the election. And post election, there are myriad ways to keep Trump under control, just as Obama was kept under control.

    At the end of the day, there is the "nuclear" option that any president should take to heart ... and that is the Kennedy assassination. That lesson should be lost on no one. I believe that was always in the back of Obama's mind, especially given that he came from nowhere and was knowingly elevated to the presidency by those same forces.

    I don’t think the deep state switches sides. I think they have a plan A, B….N. They are not omnipotent or omniscient, but pretty damn good for what they are, and can last longer than most.
    They play sides against each other very well, but as always, they’ve got a tiger by the tail.

    Trump is playing with the big boys now, and he has a family as well as business interests. I’d imagine that, with the Kennedy’s in mind, he will only push what he may dream of so far. And he may be like Obama, willing to play his part in the great game, benefitting from it, and moving on. I hope not, but I’ve hoped before. I think there is more than a slight possibility that Linh has it right. For every 100 wild conspiracy theories, there surely are a few that fall into the Truth is Stranger than Fiction category, and we largely live in a world of fiction, psychologically at least.

    The DS would have no problem throwing HRC under the bus. The Clintons have outlived their usefulness to the Deep State, I’d imagine. This was her grand finale in their game. You might feel some pity for her…Oh who am I kidding, I want to see her tarred & feathered as much as anyone….

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  16. An excellent, forthright article, LD; written with uncanny prescience and sound arguments, your predictions and summation are quite persuasive. Thanks.

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  17. @Connecticut Famer
    My hand lingered over the name "Gary Johnson" before casting a very shaky vote for Trump and against The Liar. While on the one hand I was glad that woman wasn't elected, on the other hand I have no illusions whatsoever about Trump to do much of anything. Our problems are deep-seated and beyond the ability of government to solve.

    Well said, Connecticut Farmer. Thanks.

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  18. In the words of Billy Joel

    You may be right, I may be crazy
    But it just may be a lunatic you’re looking for
    Turn out the light, don’t try to save me
    You may be wrong for all I know but you may be right

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  19. @MMM
    I agree, a game too complicated. Unnecessarily. It's easy to see why Linh Dinh sizes up the situation as he does though. Putin is also distrusted because he keeps his options open, but he is loyal to Russia and its people. Trump is in a compromised, deeply divided country.

    Paul Craig Roberts sums it up:

    “Note: Some believe that Trump is a ruse conducted by the Oligarchy. However, as Hillary is the bought-and-paid-for representative of the Oligarchy, such an elaborate ruse is unnecessary. It is preferable for the Oligarchy to win on its own platform than to install a president on the opposite platform and then change him around. Another sellout increases the anger of the people. If Hillary had won, the Oligarchy would have had the voters’ mandate for their platform.”

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/11/11/the-anti-trump-protesters-are-tools-of-the-oligarchy-paul-craig-roberts/

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    • Replies: @Ximenes
    "If Hillary had won, the Oligarchy would have had the voters’ mandate for their platform."

    If, however, the Oligarchy's next project is a false-flag followed by an American attack on Iran, then Trump's their man. His rhetoric on Iran was relentlessly hostile and belligerent-- so there's the mandate. And if the nation is going to war, the men who will be doing the actual fighting-- deplorables all-- will answer the call of the leader they elected. Kind of reminiscent of the last time a good old boy was (suspiciously) elected. GW Bush read My Pet Goat during the 9/11 attack, then we were off to Iraq.
  20. I wouldn’t believe this line of thinking – except for the fact that today news of Trump’s team is leaking out. His team is made of political insiders, bankers, lobbyists etc.

    The swamp is not being drained. It’s being flooded again.

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    • Replies: @Delinquent Snail
    Is it credible? Or just speculation and fearmongering?
  21. So basically everyone and everything is controlled by the Deep State, and anything you do or think is because they manipulated you into doing or thinking it.

    Sounds an awful lot like God, but I can assure you that NSA nerds and military generals aren’t gods. I think it is what it is, the real men behind the curtain (the wealthy, and elites in politics, business, academia, and the media) were all-in for Hillary and they lost.

    And then, how do we know _you_ aren’t a Deep State plant and this is all just misinformation?

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  22. Obama made all sorts of promises also, he didn’t deliver. Trump makes all kinds of promises, he won’t deliver either on most or all as well – presidents are not kings who can enact policies on their own. Take for example jobs and getting rid of the free trade deals and so on? That needs congress, and congress is pro-trade deals. So that is a non-starter. A president is limited to what congress allows, Obama couldn’t snap his finger and force the TPP on America. It is the same with repealing trade deals.

    What else did he promise that you care so much about? Muslims? Nope, he won’t do it since once in office he will find out how much power the Muslim lobby has – they own much of corporate America, i.e. the Saudis and Gulf states that is. And they can wreck the American economy if they wanted what with their owning government debt. And they are the biggest clients of the defense industry after the American military. Also they control the price of oil. So that is a non-starter as well.

    What else did he promise? Guns? Since when are guns illegal? Just empty rhetoric.

    What else? Lower taxes? Poor people already pay no income tax, so he will lower it for the rich and that will make you happy? Or what, the middle class will save a few hundred bucks a year, well guess what, inflation has made that a joke. He can’t reduce taxes too much, where do you think the military gets their money from? Or the infrastructure projects he wants to get done?

    Infrastructure projects? I doubt it, after all the money that goes to the military there is barely enough money to pay for what is already paid for, lowering taxes will make that kitty even lower. So don’t count on it.

    Immigrants? Take a look outside, rioting in the streets will make him change that promise.

    What else, foreign policy? This is the biggest joke of all. The defense industry owns congress, they depend on war to make hundreds of billions a year. They control foreign war mongering, I mean do not be a fool and think that Obama and Hillary are just irrational “war hawks” and that explains everything. The defense industry is the main power in American politics, Trump cannot take them on and win. They control the intelligence agencies and anyone who challenges them will feel their wrath, one way or another. Trump will cave, count on it.

    So what do we have left that makes you feel Trump can change anything for the better? Repeal regulations? Oh, that is just great for rich people, or the coal industry, or the oil industry, but not so good for the environment or anyone else.

    So what else? Abortion? The Supreme Court as a policy does not change decisions made by them. And even if they do, what will happen? People will simply go to Mexico or Canada, taking money out of America. Or more people will make sure to take the morning after pill. Abortion will not change much if at all (remember past GOP presidents changing abortion?)

    Anything else? Make friends with Russia? Well, great. So what though? How does that change your life? Any threats of nuclear war with Russia are overblown, it was all election year fear mongering to get elected. So yeah it is nice to be friends with Russia or China or whoever, but that doesn’t change your life does it?

    Repeal Obamacare? Hmmm. That will not make anything better, and could make things worse. If you asked most people what it is about Obamacare they don’t like, most will say something that is not really true. Or they will cite stuff that Obamacare cannot control – like rising prices which had no control before Obamacare either. Sure there is a penalty for people who have no insurance but can afford it, but it isn’t much, and it only affects a small number of people. Remember, poor people get free health care in America anyways. Obamacare was not great and didn’t fix the health care cost crisis, but at least it made some improvements. Unless Trump’s plan can make it better, just getting rid of it will make things worse. Don’t expect a miracle. He didn’t make any specific promises about health care other than ending Obamacare and saying he will make things better.

    What else? Repeal the Iran deal? What does that mean for you? Maybe war with Iran? Hmmm, who would profit from that? I wonder, NOT. War with Iran is what the defense industry would love. Makes you tingle all over doesn’t it?

    Happy still? Remember, if you can’t spot the sucker at the table – it is you.

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    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    Immigrants? Take a look outside, rioting in the streets will make him change that promise.

    No it just makes them criminals, eligible for immediate deportation.
    , @Eric Novak
    This is the most idiotic analysis yet of Trump's victory. What's next, Ron-debate about whether the Greys or the Reptilians battled for control of the White House? Online rumor has it Trump will keep the lid on disclosure...
  23. Linh Dinh makes a powerful argument, even though he is a disgusting racist. This would answer the question I asked yesterday; why did the stock market go up after a Trump win? If Linh Dinh is right, the plutocracy sure fooled me.

    However another possibility is that the plutocracy is split; one side for more war, one side for hauling ass. The Wall Street Journal, wrote a strong article which operatively favored Trump. Maybe more hidden plutes favored Trump.

    Actually, now that I reflect on it, this appears a better explanation.

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    • Replies: @Randal

    Linh Dinh makes a powerful argument
     
    He does, but ultimately for me he crosses too far over from justifiable cynicism to outright fantasy. In the real world a "deep state", in any country, is not the kind of all powerful, all knowing conspiracy that Linh Dinh describes, but rather a semi-formal grouping of immensely powerful insiders.

    If anybody in the US is a party to such, it is for sure the Clintons and the Bushes

    even though he is a disgusting racist
     
    Certainly he is not "disgusting" (in his public persona - I don't know him personally), either in general or in his "racism". Insofar as he is "racist", he is moderately and reasonably so.
  24. The effects of 9/11 are still being felt today, as much the national security polices in place today are either a direct result of 9/11 or are allegedly designed to prevent another catastrophic tragedy of a similar magnitude. Likewise, Jewish zionists have been trying to shift the American people’s condemnation of the 9/11 attacks away from the real terrorists who did 9/11 and the Jewish terrorist state of Israel which was the root cause of 9/11, because of its almost endless list of Zionist crimes, towards irrational hatred of people of the Islamic faith in general. Unfortunately, this zionist instigation of Islamohysteria has created a segment of people in America who are supportive of the military occupation of nations such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and Syria (with Iran as a likely future target). These military occupations only benefit the criminal state Israel

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Do Zionists really need to stoke anyone's "irrational" hatred of the Islamic faith ??
    Seems Muslims can do a bang up job of that themselves . Witness the Indonesian occupation of Papua since 1963 to the present day with a murder rate to 500,000 Papuans .We can go to the Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara going on since the 80s with a death toll around 40,000 .The Turkish occupation of Cyprus , The Iraqi occupation of Kurdistan , The Muslim conflict in Myanmar where Kalar Muslims are trying to steal Rakhine state , Pakistan against India , Muslim insurgency in Thailand ,Philippines , China , Muslim terrorist attacks on every nation in the world, " refugees " settled in Europe give their thanks by a New years even rapefest in Germany and pimping and exploiting thousands of teenage children in Rotherham England , Slavery running rampant in Mauritania and Sudan , over a million killed in Darfur by the Islamic State of Sudan and the Janjaweed rape militia terrorizing every female in the territory .

    Muslims don't need " Zionists " to make people hate them .
  25. War is not for oil or military banking comp. it was for Israeli interests. Oded Yinon’s “Clean Break” document and the “Rebuilding America’s defences” by the PNAC think tank, aren’t too dissimilar. Richard Perle was calling for middle east regime change since 1996 for fuck sake.

    A lot of the bullshit intelligence that was not only cherry picked but also fabricated to the point them becoming outright lies, for example Mohammed Atta’s delivery of anthrax to Iraqi officals in Prague, came out of the office of special plans. This was a very low key department within the Pentagon (many intellgience officals did not know it existed) headed by who else but an Israeli Neo-conservative, Douglas Feith.

    You obviously realise the criminal element with US Govt, but if you think the invasion of Iraq was for oil – you’ve still got some reading to do!

    http://www.ipsnews.net/2004/03/iraq-war-launched-to-protect-israel-bush-adviser/

    The destabilization in Iraq and surroundings is something planned from the beginning of the 80s

    The very Israeli media boasted that Jews were bush accessor those responsible for the lie of chemical weapons and resulting aggression and destabilized the iraq

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/white-man-s-burden-1.14110

    http://www.ipsnews.net/2004/03/iraq-war-launched-to-protect-israel-bush-adviser/

    It is known that al Qaeda took part in the Arab spring receiving help from the American government CONTROLLED.

    It is well known that such ISIS received American arms and Israeli medical help.

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3438625

    “Israel provides medical and military help for Syrians rebels denounced commissioner of the UN! UN Commissioners reported that during the last 18 months the Israel government through its military has been providing medical and military aid to the rebels Syrians .According to the inspectors, meetings between Israelis and Syrians military rebels are common and occur in golinas Golan! ”

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/12/07/389114/un-report-reveals-israeltakfiri-links/

    Here’s a must-read piece on how American (Jewish) neo-cons planned, organised and carried out the destabilisation of certain middle eastern countries on behalf of Israel leading to the unfolding nightmare Europe is now experiencing………

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Strange theory that Israel needed to have a war with Iraq since Iraq was never a threat to Israel. As I'm sure you are well aware , Israel bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osirak in 1983 , killing over a dozen top Iraqi scientists and turning their nuclear program into dust .If Iraq was capable of being a threat to Israel , you have to imagine they would have gone to war over something as egregious as this . If there was ever a time when Iraq would be in a position to do something about the evil Zionists , this would be the time . But alas , there was no response .They bent over , spread their cheeks and took it hard and dry . I mean what more does Israel have to do to provoke a response .??. Iraq was never a threat .But cool conspiracy theory bro.
  26. @MMM
    I agree, a game too complicated. Unnecessarily. It's easy to see why Linh Dinh sizes up the situation as he does though. Putin is also distrusted because he keeps his options open, but he is loyal to Russia and its people. Trump is in a compromised, deeply divided country.

    Putin is no different from the Zionist who control the West.
    he oppresses own people(slavs) while licking ass of the supremacists Jews

    ethnic Russian is a people on the verge of extinction and big part of it is the fault of your beloved Putin.

    _ You knew that only 40% of the Russian population is white / Slavic?
    _ You know that majoritary ethnic Russian women are married out of your (40% of Muscovites for example) race?

    You knew that in Russia have 2 million abortions every year and the vast majority are of ethnic Russian women married with ethnic Russian man ?
    _ You knew during the Putin government in less than 10 years 15 million illegal immigrants settled around Moscow?
    - You knew Putin created laws that criminalize criticism of the immigration and because of this more than 2000 Russian nationalists today live in penitentiaries?
    you knew Putin banned the existence of political parties and nationalist movements so that many existing parties were extinguished by operation of law?

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    I agree, at least his foreign policy is pretty good as a counterbalance to the US agenda
    , @MMM
    What Putin has done for Russia and its people speaks for itself. You should educate yourself.
    , @annamaria
    "...he oppressed his own people..."
    1. He does not own Russian people: He serves the interests of Russia and this is why his approval rate is in the 80s.
    2. You have mistaken Russian federation for Ukraine: The Kievan junta has indeed employed disproportionate number of Jews on the leading positions in the government (ironically, along with certain neo-Nazis). Ukraine is a Kagans' clan project; the country is used as a tool for the ziocons. For comparison, see how Douglas Feith had been conducting pro-Israel (anti-American) activities in his position of an undersec. of def. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/01/lie-factory
  27. @Connecticut Famer
    My hand lingered over the name "Gary Johnson" before casting a very shaky vote for Trump and against The Liar. While on the one hand I was glad that woman wasn't elected, on the other hand I have no illusions whatsoever about Trump to do much of anything. Our problems are deep-seated and beyond the ability of government to solve.

    But not beyond the ability of government to make worse! Our best political minds are working to do what they can even as we speak.

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  28. @TheJester
    Linh,

    I'm a strong Trump supporter ... but I had similar thoughts about the Deep State changing sides in the middle of the contest in the face of the email onslaught against Hillary. I noticed a shift in tone. If Hillary had been elected, there was the credible risk that, with additional evidence, she might be indicted before she was inaugurated or impeached soon after she was inaugurated.

    Trump doesn't have to be part of a conspiracy for the levers of power to be slightly changed en route to the election. And post election, there are myriad ways to keep Trump under control, just as Obama was kept under control.

    At the end of the day, there is the "nuclear" option that any president should take to heart ... and that is the Kennedy assassination. That lesson should be lost on no one. I believe that was always in the back of Obama's mind, especially given that he came from nowhere and was knowingly elevated to the presidency by those same forces.

    He didn’t “come from nowhere.” He’d been chosen years before. A Russian journalist said with certainty in the early ’90s, “you will have a black president in a few years.” Maybe she had a crystal ball, or saw the trends, or maybe was just had access to the network that really decides these things. Obama had a CIA connection at least on the Dunham side even before birth. A mediocrity like him doesn’t get into Columbia (though private investigators could find no evidence of his ever having been a student there), or become editor of the Harvard Law Review with virtually no accomplishments or grades to recommend him, unless you are very connected. You want to see what matters to those who decide these things, look at the events with an official narrative that keeps getting repeated even unto Wikipedia, and yet people who research it, know it went down differently. And they keep it up for decades–that’s how you know the event’s significance, by how long and hard the media/politicians/anybody with a stake-in-it, lies about it.

    As for the Clinton votes, there was so much voter fraud on the Dems part, that the fact Trump won at all is evidence of a landslide of popular feeling.

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    • Replies: @Triumph104

    A mediocrity like him doesn’t get into Columbia (though private investigators could find no evidence of his ever having been a student there), or become editor of the Harvard Law Review with virtually no accomplishments or grades to recommend him, unless you are very connected.
     
    Barack Obama got into Columbia as a transfer student. He was lazy in high school and his grades were too poor for him to be an incoming freshman. Several elite schools such as Johns Hopkins, Cornell, and the US service academies are known for accepting transfer students that they never would have accepted as incoming freshmen, because the grades, SAT scores, and graduation rates of incoming freshmen affect the rankings of a college. Many of these transfers are racial minorities and/or athletes, so it is a win-win for the college

    Harvard Law Review started choosing half of its editors by popular vote when Barack Obama was in high school, so no connections were needed, although there is indication that he may have been elected based on mert. Steve Sailer has written about Obama's relatively high LSAT score, 94th to 98th percentile, and the outgoing president of the Harvard Law Review stated that Obama was selected on merit. "Mr. Yu said Mr. Obama's election ''was a choice on the merits, but others may read something into it.'' "

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2013/05/obamas-lsat-score.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.html
  29. Absurd, you really think the media that’s largely staffed by coddled Jewish or White leftists needed to be told when to get hysterical over microaggressions? These are “people” who are genuinely suffering from PTSD over an election result

    http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/10/colleges-cancelled-exams-for-students-tr

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    • Replies: @Elizabeth
    You believe this can authentically be seen as causing PTSD?
  30. @kevin
    Putin is no different from the Zionist who control the West.
    he oppresses own people(slavs) while licking ass of the supremacists Jews



    ethnic Russian is a people on the verge of extinction and big part of it is the fault of your beloved Putin.

    _ You knew that only 40% of the Russian population is white / Slavic?
    _ You know that majoritary ethnic Russian women are married out of your (40% of Muscovites for example) race?

    You knew that in Russia have 2 million abortions every year and the vast majority are of ethnic Russian women married with ethnic Russian man ?
    _ You knew during the Putin government in less than 10 years 15 million illegal immigrants settled around Moscow?
    - You knew Putin created laws that criminalize criticism of the immigration and because of this more than 2000 Russian nationalists today live in penitentiaries?
    you knew Putin banned the existence of political parties and nationalist movements so that many existing parties were extinguished by operation of law?

    I agree, at least his foreign policy is pretty good as a counterbalance to the US agenda

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  31. @woodNfish
    Nice try Linh, but I'm not buying it. Trump is already putting his program together and its key points were published yesterday. And in regards to the mentally deranged pervs out there, Trump paraded around on stage at one of his rallies carrying a "LGBT's for Trump" banner over his head and the crowd cheered him on. Your fag friends need to stop listening to the lying LSM.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-10/trump-reveals-policy-goals-building-wall-end-war-coal-repeal-obamacare-dismantle-dod

    “With NAFTA, Bill launched the job offshoring that has wrecked this country, and those most affected by it, working class whites, know damn well who’s responsible. The Clinton brand has become anathema to middle America.”

    They’re already promoting Chelsea in politics. And she’ll succeed. Because of name recognition.

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    • Replies: @woodNfish
    If Chelsea Clinton succeeds it will be because democrats are grubers.
  32. @Marcus
    Absurd, you really think the media that's largely staffed by coddled Jewish or White leftists needed to be told when to get hysterical over microaggressions? These are "people" who are genuinely suffering from PTSD over an election result
    http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/10/colleges-cancelled-exams-for-students-tr

    You believe this can authentically be seen as causing PTSD?

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    Have you been living under a rock? Leftists are even more hysterical than normal, they were already seeking counseling months ago for election anxiety
    http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2016/09/trump_induced_anxiety_is_a_real_thing.html
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    I’m not buying it. For starters, Trump was extremely defamed by the entirety of the media, the entertainment industry, academia, and nearly all political insiders, heads of state, etc. the world over. If the establishment were trying to get him elected, would trying to get the public to revile him be a good way to do so? Wouldn’t it have simply been easier to do nothing, and let him steamroll Clinton? It was bound to have some effect on the numbers- would they chance having their “stooge” lose?

    Indeed, most predictions going into the election were that he would lose and most of the talking heads were celebratory of the fact. I can understand perhaps the democrats wanting their establishment candidate to go in, but the Republican establishment as well? Republican establishment leader after Republican establishment leader, Republican figureheads like Arnold, Republican voices like the entire frickin’ panel of National Review- all trying to get their followers to vote against Trump. And if the establishment as a whole were rigging it, wouldn’t they have either overridden the wishes of the those who were against him, as the democrats did to Bernie behind the scenes? And why all the cheating on behalf of Hillary? Wouldn’t there have been a lot of lever pulling for Trump? For example- A number of Hillary’s debate answers were well-polished and we know why- she had people giving her people the questions ahead of time. Wouldn’t this have been going on for Trump? If you think it was, then why were his answers less polished (which would only hurt his numbers).

    The establishment hasn’t given 2 sh*ts for the white working class or any white for that matter who doesn’t bow down to the ideology of the left. They’ve been ignoring the ‘badwhites’ for at least a half century, knowing fully well that whites are too tied into their jobs, their families, their homes, the boundaries of proper society, etc to riot, and raise the kind of hell that would end the establishment. So they’ve been ignoring the ‘badwhites’, slowly killing them off through attrition, slowly electing a new people by importing others who have more kids than the whites. And yeah, whitey has been angry, but still hasn’t gone to the streets to raise hell. He still works his 9-5, he still pays his taxes, he still sends his kids to their schools to be indoctrinated in left-think. In other words, its been working. No reason why, when they’ve gotten whitey this far along to think that he’s suddenly going to organize a private army to re-take the country.

    And who in their right mind would accept the level of public defamation that Trump has had to endure if they didn’t have to- if they were a ‘stooge’ who could ride into a presidency? The man has had massive damage to his reputation among “those Americans who really count”, had the media playing over and over his comments about ‘grabbing p*ssy’, proclaiming over and over he hated women, etc in front of his daughter, his wife, his young son. He had his personal empire financially damaged by protest, removal of advertising and sponsorship, etc. He had to spend hundreds of millions of his own money- not a lot of gravy train stooge money coming to his campaign.

    It’s clear that Hillary was the intended stooge. Aside from email proof (which, by the way had to be delivered to us through foreign sources), she is the one who was given the free pass from the media, the intellectuals, etc. The one to whom the easy money flowed.

    In short, your ideas about Trump just don’t add up.

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    • Agree: Miro23
    • Replies: @exiled off mainstreet
    I concur with #33 who points out that it is obvious that the harpy was the deep state's intended winner. Look at the propaganda wall Trump faced 24/7. What Lin Dinh noticed was that certain people working for the "deep state" were too honourable to go along, the FBI agents in the know about the Clinton corruption, for instance. This does not disprove that everyone and everything was in the bag for the harpy. Sentient beings who survived the last couple of months cannot but see that inverted totalitarianism was in play but that it barely failed in this instance. It is also interesting that there were plenty of reports of voting machines going from Trump to Clinton but none from Clinton to Trump. My guess is that they managed to steal the popular vote but were too far behind to succeed in stealing the election. Improvement has already occurred: Obama seems in his lame duck phase to no longer be backing el qaeda in Syria and the trade "treaties" appear to be shelved.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Yes Linh Dinh is playing out of his league and should stick to what he's good at.
  34. Linh,

    While your analysis is provocative and, maybe, possible, I would take it with a large dose of wait and see.

    Like I said: maybe you’re right.

    It should all be clear real soon.

    In the meantime: yes, Orlando doesn’t really make any sense, does it?

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    I’ve heard after the Lewinsky case a golf club was rejecting William Jefferson Blythe III’s membership application, then Trump made them accept it.
    There are pictures of the two, each with a stunner (not their wives).

    Clinton rolled out wide-range deregulation. The end of Glass-Steagall (of which Clinton said, as late as in 2015, there’s not a single, solitary example that” signing the bill to end Glass-Steagall “had anything to do with the financial crash) was still more important.
    William Jefferson’s first term was when real executive power was transferred to finance all over the West (the EU, as logical, followed within a few years).

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    • Replies: @restless94110
    Who the fuck is William Jefferson Blythe and why the fuck should anyone care?

    Are you trying to be cute?

    I just hate this jargon-y shit that some people use.
  36. @kevin
    Putin is no different from the Zionist who control the West.
    he oppresses own people(slavs) while licking ass of the supremacists Jews



    ethnic Russian is a people on the verge of extinction and big part of it is the fault of your beloved Putin.

    _ You knew that only 40% of the Russian population is white / Slavic?
    _ You know that majoritary ethnic Russian women are married out of your (40% of Muscovites for example) race?

    You knew that in Russia have 2 million abortions every year and the vast majority are of ethnic Russian women married with ethnic Russian man ?
    _ You knew during the Putin government in less than 10 years 15 million illegal immigrants settled around Moscow?
    - You knew Putin created laws that criminalize criticism of the immigration and because of this more than 2000 Russian nationalists today live in penitentiaries?
    you knew Putin banned the existence of political parties and nationalist movements so that many existing parties were extinguished by operation of law?

    What Putin has done for Russia and its people speaks for itself. You should educate yourself.

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    Standard of living has indeed increased tremendously, but he's flooded the country with dumb, obnoxious non-white immigrants
    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/02/putins-view-of-russias-national-future-migration-policy-and-residence-registration/
  37. @woodNfish
    Nice try Linh, but I'm not buying it. Trump is already putting his program together and its key points were published yesterday. And in regards to the mentally deranged pervs out there, Trump paraded around on stage at one of his rallies carrying a "LGBT's for Trump" banner over his head and the crowd cheered him on. Your fag friends need to stop listening to the lying LSM.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-10/trump-reveals-policy-goals-building-wall-end-war-coal-repeal-obamacare-dismantle-dod

    From PCR:

    Some believe that Trump is a ruse conducted by the Oligarchy. However, as Hillary is the bought-and-paid-for representative of the Oligarchy, such an elaborate ruse is unnecessary. It is preferable for the Oligarchy to win on its own platform than to install a president on the opposite platform and then change him around. Another sellout increases the anger of the people. If Hillary had won, the Oligarchy would have had the voters’ mandate for their platform.

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    • Replies: @woodNfish
    Yeah, I read that article too, and I think it is as looney as you are.
  38. @Vraja D
    Obama made all sorts of promises also, he didn't deliver. Trump makes all kinds of promises, he won't deliver either on most or all as well - presidents are not kings who can enact policies on their own. Take for example jobs and getting rid of the free trade deals and so on? That needs congress, and congress is pro-trade deals. So that is a non-starter. A president is limited to what congress allows, Obama couldn't snap his finger and force the TPP on America. It is the same with repealing trade deals.

    What else did he promise that you care so much about? Muslims? Nope, he won't do it since once in office he will find out how much power the Muslim lobby has - they own much of corporate America, i.e. the Saudis and Gulf states that is. And they can wreck the American economy if they wanted what with their owning government debt. And they are the biggest clients of the defense industry after the American military. Also they control the price of oil. So that is a non-starter as well.

    What else did he promise? Guns? Since when are guns illegal? Just empty rhetoric.

    What else? Lower taxes? Poor people already pay no income tax, so he will lower it for the rich and that will make you happy? Or what, the middle class will save a few hundred bucks a year, well guess what, inflation has made that a joke. He can't reduce taxes too much, where do you think the military gets their money from? Or the infrastructure projects he wants to get done?

    Infrastructure projects? I doubt it, after all the money that goes to the military there is barely enough money to pay for what is already paid for, lowering taxes will make that kitty even lower. So don't count on it.

    Immigrants? Take a look outside, rioting in the streets will make him change that promise.

    What else, foreign policy? This is the biggest joke of all. The defense industry owns congress, they depend on war to make hundreds of billions a year. They control foreign war mongering, I mean do not be a fool and think that Obama and Hillary are just irrational "war hawks" and that explains everything. The defense industry is the main power in American politics, Trump cannot take them on and win. They control the intelligence agencies and anyone who challenges them will feel their wrath, one way or another. Trump will cave, count on it.

    So what do we have left that makes you feel Trump can change anything for the better? Repeal regulations? Oh, that is just great for rich people, or the coal industry, or the oil industry, but not so good for the environment or anyone else.

    So what else? Abortion? The Supreme Court as a policy does not change decisions made by them. And even if they do, what will happen? People will simply go to Mexico or Canada, taking money out of America. Or more people will make sure to take the morning after pill. Abortion will not change much if at all (remember past GOP presidents changing abortion?)

    Anything else? Make friends with Russia? Well, great. So what though? How does that change your life? Any threats of nuclear war with Russia are overblown, it was all election year fear mongering to get elected. So yeah it is nice to be friends with Russia or China or whoever, but that doesn't change your life does it?

    Repeal Obamacare? Hmmm. That will not make anything better, and could make things worse. If you asked most people what it is about Obamacare they don't like, most will say something that is not really true. Or they will cite stuff that Obamacare cannot control - like rising prices which had no control before Obamacare either. Sure there is a penalty for people who have no insurance but can afford it, but it isn't much, and it only affects a small number of people. Remember, poor people get free health care in America anyways. Obamacare was not great and didn't fix the health care cost crisis, but at least it made some improvements. Unless Trump's plan can make it better, just getting rid of it will make things worse. Don't expect a miracle. He didn't make any specific promises about health care other than ending Obamacare and saying he will make things better.

    What else? Repeal the Iran deal? What does that mean for you? Maybe war with Iran? Hmmm, who would profit from that? I wonder, NOT. War with Iran is what the defense industry would love. Makes you tingle all over doesn't it?

    Happy still? Remember, if you can't spot the sucker at the table - it is you.

    Immigrants? Take a look outside, rioting in the streets will make him change that promise.

    No it just makes them criminals, eligible for immediate deportation.

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  39. @Anonymous
    I've heard after the Lewinsky case a golf club was rejecting William Jefferson Blythe III's membership application, then Trump made them accept it.
    There are pictures of the two, each with a stunner (not their wives).

    Clinton rolled out wide-range deregulation. The end of Glass-Steagall (of which Clinton said, as late as in 2015, there's not a single, solitary example that" signing the bill to end Glass-Steagall "had anything to do with the financial crash) was still more important.
    William Jefferson's first term was when real executive power was transferred to finance all over the West (the EU, as logical, followed within a few years).

    Who the fuck is William Jefferson Blythe and why the fuck should anyone care?

    Are you trying to be cute?

    I just hate this jargon-y shit that some people use.

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    • Agree: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    Blythe is Bill Clinton's bio-dad. Yes, that Bill, he's a bastard in more ways than one or twenty. He took the last name of a "Stepfather". Lots of promiscuity in that clan. Nothing to do down there back then but bang ugly-ass farm women. In Bill's case, his apples did not fall far from his father Blythe's tree. That man Blythe had many women and he married many women. Bill's career allowed only the one marriage but surely he approached the sexual-peg-count history of his bio-dad.

    Yes, Anonymous is cute that way. I suspect he has no regard for Bill Blythe--err, Clinton!

  40. Trump ran for president to save face. The Celebrity Apprentice is cheap to make but the ratings were low and I’m sure that NBC wanted to salvage the show with a new host and told Trump and his kids that their services were no longer needed. A Trump-less show was filmed almost a year ago and is scheduled to air January 2017 with Arnold Schwarzenegger as the host. If NBC had waited another year, Trump never would have run for president.

    After the Orlando false flag shooting on June 12th, 2016

    Huh?

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Someone's been drinking their serving of Michael Moore Koolaid, haven't they?
    , @annamaria
    "Trump ran for president to save face."
    This statement could be done by a person who does not understand the effort and expense of a prez election. For a starter, here are the numbers:
    "Hillary Clinton having raised more than $1 billion this election—thanks in large part to a cadre of wealthy donors sending tens of millions of dollars into super-PACs.... Trump put $56.2 million of his own into the campaign, leaving him with scant time to put in the rest of the $100 million."
    $1 billion versus $156 million ($56 million of which were his own). http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/
    , @WJ
    Irrational silliness that adds nothing to the discussion.
  41. @MMM
    Paul Craig Roberts sums it up:

    "Note: Some believe that Trump is a ruse conducted by the Oligarchy. However, as Hillary is the bought-and-paid-for representative of the Oligarchy, such an elaborate ruse is unnecessary. It is preferable for the Oligarchy to win on its own platform than to install a president on the opposite platform and then change him around. Another sellout increases the anger of the people. If Hillary had won, the Oligarchy would have had the voters’ mandate for their platform."

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/11/11/the-anti-trump-protesters-are-tools-of-the-oligarchy-paul-craig-roberts/

    “If Hillary had won, the Oligarchy would have had the voters’ mandate for their platform.”

    If, however, the Oligarchy’s next project is a false-flag followed by an American attack on Iran, then Trump’s their man. His rhetoric on Iran was relentlessly hostile and belligerent– so there’s the mandate. And if the nation is going to war, the men who will be doing the actual fighting– deplorables all– will answer the call of the leader they elected. Kind of reminiscent of the last time a good old boy was (suspiciously) elected. GW Bush read My Pet Goat during the 9/11 attack, then we were off to Iraq.

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  42. @dcite
    He didn't "come from nowhere." He'd been chosen years before. A Russian journalist said with certainty in the early '90s, "you will have a black president in a few years." Maybe she had a crystal ball, or saw the trends, or maybe was just had access to the network that really decides these things. Obama had a CIA connection at least on the Dunham side even before birth. A mediocrity like him doesn't get into Columbia (though private investigators could find no evidence of his ever having been a student there), or become editor of the Harvard Law Review with virtually no accomplishments or grades to recommend him, unless you are very connected. You want to see what matters to those who decide these things, look at the events with an official narrative that keeps getting repeated even unto Wikipedia, and yet people who research it, know it went down differently. And they keep it up for decades--that's how you know the event's significance, by how long and hard the media/politicians/anybody with a stake-in-it, lies about it.

    As for the Clinton votes, there was so much voter fraud on the Dems part, that the fact Trump won at all is evidence of a landslide of popular feeling.

    A mediocrity like him doesn’t get into Columbia (though private investigators could find no evidence of his ever having been a student there), or become editor of the Harvard Law Review with virtually no accomplishments or grades to recommend him, unless you are very connected.

    Barack Obama got into Columbia as a transfer student. He was lazy in high school and his grades were too poor for him to be an incoming freshman. Several elite schools such as Johns Hopkins, Cornell, and the US service academies are known for accepting transfer students that they never would have accepted as incoming freshmen, because the grades, SAT scores, and graduation rates of incoming freshmen affect the rankings of a college. Many of these transfers are racial minorities and/or athletes, so it is a win-win for the college

    Harvard Law Review started choosing half of its editors by popular vote when Barack Obama was in high school, so no connections were needed, although there is indication that he may have been elected based on mert. Steve Sailer has written about Obama’s relatively high LSAT score, 94th to 98th percentile, and the outgoing president of the Harvard Law Review stated that Obama was selected on merit. “Mr. Yu said Mr. Obama’s election ”was a choice on the merits, but others may read something into it.” ”

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2013/05/obamas-lsat-score.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.html

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    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    Obama’s relatively high LSAT score, 94th to 98th percentile

    I don't think whites get into Harvard Law School with LSAT percentiles that low, do they?
  43. Well, I’m pretty skeptical that there was any sort of Deep State plot to put Trump into the White House. Basically, he was a loose cannon and the Elite Establishment, including nearly all the Neocons, did absolutely everything they could to defeat him.

    However, since there’s now talk that he may pick James Woolsey and John Bolton as two of his top national security/foreign policy appointments, the outcome amounts to the same thing—they’re two of the most extreme and craziest Neocons. Since Trump was an empty vessel on those sorts of issues, he would end up captured by the close allies of the people who would have been running the same Hillary Clinton portfolios.

    People forget, but “W” was originally elected as the *anti-Neocon* candidate, opposed in the 2000 Republican primaries by nearly all the Neocons (who favored McCain), promising a “humble” foreign policy, and not appointing a single Neocon to any Cabinet-level position. But by the end of the year, he’d been totally captured by the Neocons.

    Unfortunately, it wouldn’t surprise me if the same thing happened to Trump…

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    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji
    As I remember W was not an anti-neocon candidate (after all, Dick Cheney was one of his closest advisors), but rather anti-liberal-interventionist candidate, which is similar but not exactly the same.

    Besides, W really was an empty vessel, while with Trump it still remains to be seen.

    I agree that if Woolsey and/or Bolton got important assignments, it'd be a very bad omen, but it hasn't happen yet; why prejudge.
    , @Chuck Orloski
    "... (Trump) may pick James Woolsey and John Bolton for natl. security/foreign policy appointments... they're two of the most extreme and craziest Neocons."

    Ron,

    Such appointments will not surprise, given Donald Trump's (compromise?) selection of V.P. Pence. He's packaged as less "crazy" but Pence is no less ideologically committed by his observable deeds performed on behalf of the Globalist and Neoconservative agenda. Please look at You Tube below which I feel is pretty objective?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YBCx6GRs4g

    The Neoconservative infestation of Trump's administration has already begun.

    Thank you Linh Dinh for such thought provoking article which shows how much real POTUS candidate agendas are subtracted from the knowledge base of the average American voter.
    , @Ron Unz
    Well, as a contrary follow-up to my previous comment, the NYT this morning quoted Trump as saying he would be cutting off support for the Islamicist rebels in Syria, and apparently working with Russia, Syria, and Iran in the region in their efforts against ISIS.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/world/middleeast/donald-trump-syria.html

    This is *extremely* good news to me, and exactly the sort of reason I supported Trump's election.

    I have absolutely no idea whether the "Deep State" is secretly behind this non-crazy policy, but if so, then three cheers for them!
    , @utu
    Richard Perle found "W" to be empty vessel on foreign affairs and liked this fact.

    Prince Bandar on request from Poppy Bush did some tutoring of "W" and discussed with him how to circumvent the opposition (perceived by "W") from the people (presumably neocons) who did not like his father. Bandar planted a fantastic idea in "W" mind that he could outsmart the neocons by pretending that he was on their side.
    , @G B
    Deep State wants us to vote their plan A or B. Don't think Trump was their plan B, but they hedged pretty good. e.g. names you mentioned plus Steven Mnuchin, David Freidman et.al.....
    , @Keith
    " Well I'm pretty skeptical that there was any Deap State plot to put Trump in the White House".

    I'm very skeptical of individuals who shouldn't be skeptical that there was a successful plot to put Trump in the White House. I'm equally skeptical of individuals who do not specifically identify the Neocons as Jewish NeoCons. On You Tube .. On July 26, 2013, journalist Carl Bernstein correctly names the NeoCons as Jewish NeoCons. Maybe Carl didn't have to censor himself because he is Jewish. Others, including our main stream media and Zionist controlled oppositions on the web, fail to identify the NeoCons as a predominately Jewish pro Zionist organization. A major benefit of having a Trump a presidential-elect, is that it has made it easy to snif out the Zionist controlled opposition in The Unz Review.

    Now back to the strong circumstantial evidence that Americans were duped into a presidential selection by deception.

    The Zio main stream media and Hillary Clinton's presidential team hid who was Trump's main financial backer. Sheldon Adelson, who is the King of the Jews, right out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, gave Trump's canpaign over 70 million dollars. Why was this kept a secret?

    Wikileaks seemingly overnight has become the biggest whistle-blowing agencies in modern history. In reality though it is one of the biggest disinformation projects in modern history, and it may be the most dangerous because it is masquerating as an organization of truth. See the maskofzion.com.

    Wikileaks is a Zionist disinformation organization. Two week before the presidential election,
    Wikileaks released devastating emails about Hillary Clinton that negatively impacted Hillary's
    Presidential canpaign. The release was blamed on Russian hackers. No need to hack. The Zionists
    just provided the information and directed the FBI to Russian hackers.

    All of the media was against Trump was partly truthful, but an important part of the deception, Fox News supported Trump. Fox News is the most watched news network in the US. If Trump wasn't the Deap State ( Zionists) candidate, Trump would have been treated like Ron Paul. Trump received 2 billion dollars of free press. In addition, Rupert Murdoch is pro Israel and a close friend of Netanyahu. Are you starting to connect the dots? Wikileaks didn't release any negative information on Trump.

    The FBI director, James Comey reopened the investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails and charity organization eleven days before the election. They even connected the investigation into the pervert Anthony Weiner's personal emails for added negative publicity.

    The media only briefly covered Trumps zealot support for Israel and the Greater Israel Project.
    Trump wants to move the US embassy from TelAviv to Jersulem and Trumps has no problem with Israel's illegal settlements and ethnic cleansing the Palestinians from their ancestral homes.

    Sheldon Adelson threaten to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran and Trump wants to rip up the Iran nuclear deal.

    The most significant deception of all was that all of the Jewish NeoCons opposed Trump. They were told to carry out the deception by the Deap State (Zionists). How could they oppose Trump. Trump is giving everything they couldn't get from previous presidents.

    Lastly, the Zio media portrayed Trump as a antisemite and supporter of the KKK. Trump has grand children who are Jewish. Talking about deception. This is what brought out the angry white
    voter. Trump, the champion of the dumb goys. The deception is still in play. Trump appointed Steve Bannon, who the media is alledging is a anti Semite, as his chief strategist. You can't make this stuff up.

    Several skeptcs in the Unz review believe the Deap State (Zionists) couldn't pull off such a complex operation as rigging the election. The same skeptic in their comments in the Unz 911 truth,, believe 911 has Zionist/Mossad finger prints all over the mass murder of
    3000 + Americans,. Remember, the FBI had a role in covering up 911. The rigging of the election is child play for the Deap State. Just hack a couple of voting machines in key states. The deception worked like charm. We now have Netanyahu and Adelson running the White House.

    The first person Trump plans to meet is our King, Netanyahu.



















    Sent from my iPad
    , @Keith
    " I am very skeptical that the presidential election was rigged in Trump's favor"



    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/11/16/netanyahu-trump-is-a-true-friend-of-israel/


    Ron.... Are you still skeptical?
  44. @boogerbently
    "With NAFTA, Bill launched the job offshoring that has wrecked this country, and those most affected by it, working class whites, know damn well who’s responsible. The Clinton brand has become anathema to middle America."

    They're already promoting Chelsea in politics. And she'll succeed. Because of name recognition.

    If Chelsea Clinton succeeds it will be because democrats are grubers.

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  45. @boogerbently
    From PCR:

    Some believe that Trump is a ruse conducted by the Oligarchy. However, as Hillary is the bought-and-paid-for representative of the Oligarchy, such an elaborate ruse is unnecessary. It is preferable for the Oligarchy to win on its own platform than to install a president on the opposite platform and then change him around. Another sellout increases the anger of the people. If Hillary had won, the Oligarchy would have had the voters’ mandate for their platform.

    Yeah, I read that article too, and I think it is as looney as you are.

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  46. @Elizabeth
    You believe this can authentically be seen as causing PTSD?

    Have you been living under a rock? Leftists are even more hysterical than normal, they were already seeking counseling months ago for election anxiety

    http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2016/09/trump_induced_anxiety_is_a_real_thing.html

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  47. @MMM
    What Putin has done for Russia and its people speaks for itself. You should educate yourself.

    Standard of living has indeed increased tremendously, but he’s flooded the country with dumb, obnoxious non-white immigrants

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/02/putins-view-of-russias-national-future-migration-policy-and-residence-registration/

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    @Triumph104
    Trump ran for president to save face. The Celebrity Apprentice is cheap to make but the ratings were low and I'm sure that NBC wanted to salvage the show with a new host and told Trump and his kids that their services were no longer needed. A Trump-less show was filmed almost a year ago and is scheduled to air January 2017 with Arnold Schwarzenegger as the host. If NBC had waited another year, Trump never would have run for president.

    After the Orlando false flag shooting on June 12th, 2016
     
    Huh?

    Someone’s been drinking their serving of Michael Moore Koolaid, haven’t they?

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    Someone’s been drinking their serving of Michael Moore Koolaid, haven’t they?
     
    No kiddin' huh? Imagine the thought process there: "Ratings are dead, guess I'll go be President for a bit". Still, it's Trump. Look, politics is the last refuge of the rich and bored. Capitol Hill is full of guys that having made their first billion, having traveled the world, having screwed all the women a man could screw, got bored, spent a few bucks and went to Washington. Mark Warner is one I know of in Virginia. Cell phone frequencies, his money. Another was/is still up there, Don Beyers, a Volvo dealer in Virginia many years ago. Sonny Bono had it made, gets bored, runs for Congress. Sonny deceased, his wife owns that seat now. Lots of money, lots of nepotism. Lots and lots and lots of pussy. Untold quantities of pussy. Most of it in the 18-22 age-range, interns, all of it fair game and all of them, looking to latch on and stay.

    You have to run about Capitol Hill to believe it. My description does it NO justice. Trump had better have a watcher.
  49. @Triumph104

    A mediocrity like him doesn’t get into Columbia (though private investigators could find no evidence of his ever having been a student there), or become editor of the Harvard Law Review with virtually no accomplishments or grades to recommend him, unless you are very connected.
     
    Barack Obama got into Columbia as a transfer student. He was lazy in high school and his grades were too poor for him to be an incoming freshman. Several elite schools such as Johns Hopkins, Cornell, and the US service academies are known for accepting transfer students that they never would have accepted as incoming freshmen, because the grades, SAT scores, and graduation rates of incoming freshmen affect the rankings of a college. Many of these transfers are racial minorities and/or athletes, so it is a win-win for the college

    Harvard Law Review started choosing half of its editors by popular vote when Barack Obama was in high school, so no connections were needed, although there is indication that he may have been elected based on mert. Steve Sailer has written about Obama's relatively high LSAT score, 94th to 98th percentile, and the outgoing president of the Harvard Law Review stated that Obama was selected on merit. "Mr. Yu said Mr. Obama's election ''was a choice on the merits, but others may read something into it.'' "

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2013/05/obamas-lsat-score.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us/first-black-elected-to-head-harvard-s-law-review.html

    Obama’s relatively high LSAT score, 94th to 98th percentile

    I don’t think whites get into Harvard Law School with LSAT percentiles that low, do they?

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    No, whites don't not get into Harvard Law School with LSAT percentiles that low. Glancing at today's figures, the top 25 percent of Harvard Law have LSAT scores are in the 99.4 percentile range and above, 175 and up. The bottom 25 percent have scores in the 97.3 percentile range, 170 and below. Since Steve Sailer said that Obama only applied to Harvard, Yale, and Stanford and no safety schools, I would guess that Obama scored in the 98th percentile, which would have been average for those schools.

    The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education points out that if not for affirmative action, there wouldn't be blacks in top medical, law, or business schools. (Based on my anecdotal research, the one or two blacks admitted on merit alone would overwhelmingly be mixed-race or the child of immigrants, like Obama.)


    In 2004, 10,370 blacks took the LSAT examination. Only 29 blacks, or 0.3 percent of all LSAT test takers, scored 170 or above. In contrast, more than 1,900 white test takers scored 170 or above on the LSAT. They made up 3.1 percent of all white test takers. Thus whites were more than 10 times as likely as blacks to score 170 or above on the LSAT. There were 66 times as many whites as blacks who scored 170 or above on the test.

    Even if we drop the scoring level to 165, a level equal to the mean score of students enrolling at law schools ranked in the top 10 nationwide but not at the very top, we still find very few blacks. There were 108 blacks scoring 165 or better on the LSAT in 2004. They made up 1 percent of all black test takers. For whites, there were 6,689 test takers who scored 165 or above. They made up 10.6 percent of all white students who took the LSAT examination.

    The nation's top law schools could fill their classes exclusively with students who scored 165 or above on the LSAT. But if they were to do so, these law schools would have almost no black students.

    http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/51_graduate_admissions_test.html

     

    http://hls.harvard.edu/dept/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/hls-profile-and-facts/
    , @Hibernian
    You're right, but at 94% to 98% he's probably almost as bright as their typical student. There's a difference between those such as Rice, Powell, and Obama, who got a boost from Affirmative Action, and mediocre or worse products of A.A, including the so far still existing A.A. for connected white guys.
  50. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    If Trump bans Muslims, there will be less chance of Muslim terrorism in the US. And that means less reason for US to fight more War on Terror in the Middle East.

    Zio-Glob hates that. Zio-Glob want more reasons for US to get involved in the Middle East to do their bidding.

    More Muslims here means more chance of terrorism, and that means more reason for US to fight in Middle East. And in creating havoc, US will take in more Muslim refugees, and that may mean more terror, which will justify more US wars over there, and so on.

    Indeed, imagine US had been more vigilant and vetting of Muslims in the 90s. There would have been no 9/11, and then no opening for Neocons to bring about the endless Wars for Israel in the 21st century.

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    @Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften
    Let me get you right, Mr. Din. So, first, the Deep State people had concluded that certain white people are pissed and that they needed to be pacified. Next, they needed to figure out how to effect the pacification of the white working class. They knew that the media looked down upon them Joe Six Pack folks and that they, at least to some extent, supported Donald Trump, a well-known personality. So, now let's get the media go after Trump. The working class will feel sympathy for Trump, another entity persecuted by the media. Trump's support among the white working class will increase so much that he can easily grab the presidency. Which is indeed what seems to have happened . . . and nobody is asking any difficult questions about the Deep State and its machinations. See how diabolically clever the Deep State is! Some baby talk, Mr. Din! Get a life!

    It’s not that complicated.

    The elites control both sides. Always.

    That’s why Bush/Clinton/Obama saw almost no change at all except for superficial ones at best.

    The only way for the elites to win is to play divide and conquer and that is exactly what they are doing.

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    @Jason Liu
    Linh, you're sounding like the Asian Alex Jones.

    I agree that Trump is unlikely to bring the massive changes he promised, but the media was not building him up as president. They didn't expect him to run for office when they aired his reality shows, and the "deep state" is one of those poorly defined, unfalsifiable entities people blame for everything.

    Some of the media attacked him, some of the media shilled for him.

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    Who in the media besides the Alt-Right was shilling for Trump? The MSM took every opportunity to take a shot at him. They waited for hours at a Gloria Allred press conference a few days before the election waiting for an eventual no-show Trump accuser. This is just one example.
  53. I’m not buying it, simply based on the observable fact that the establishment isn’t that good. If Trump is really a puppet on their string, it would require a stunning degree of stagecraft and tight control of events that is simply beyond their ability. They may be powerful, but they aren’t that subtle.

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    What people forget is that there is a de-leveraging that needs to happen in order to liquidate all the bad debt. In other words a great depression.

    Trump is the perfect fall guy for this.

    Once he goes down and takes the fall, the left will be able to target the Alt-Right as being responsible for all of the world’s problems.

    And they will be able to force a liberal alternative down America’s throats.

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  55. I am sixty-nine years old and in poor health. I am relieved that I will not witness the full horror that will envelop the 99%. I have seen the country decline since Ronald was in office and implemented his trickle down economy. Citizens, you are doomed.

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    Well, if you are 69 yrs old then you should know the country has been declining for a lot longer than Reagan. In fact the Reagan years reversed some of the damage.
  56. @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm pretty skeptical that there was any sort of Deep State plot to put Trump into the White House. Basically, he was a loose cannon and the Elite Establishment, including nearly all the Neocons, did absolutely everything they could to defeat him.

    However, since there's now talk that he may pick James Woolsey and John Bolton as two of his top national security/foreign policy appointments, the outcome amounts to the same thing---they're two of the most extreme and craziest Neocons. Since Trump was an empty vessel on those sorts of issues, he would end up captured by the close allies of the people who would have been running the same Hillary Clinton portfolios.

    People forget, but "W" was originally elected as the *anti-Neocon* candidate, opposed in the 2000 Republican primaries by nearly all the Neocons (who favored McCain), promising a "humble" foreign policy, and not appointing a single Neocon to any Cabinet-level position. But by the end of the year, he'd been totally captured by the Neocons.

    Unfortunately, it wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happened to Trump...

    As I remember W was not an anti-neocon candidate (after all, Dick Cheney was one of his closest advisors), but rather anti-liberal-interventionist candidate, which is similar but not exactly the same.

    Besides, W really was an empty vessel, while with Trump it still remains to be seen.

    I agree that if Woolsey and/or Bolton got important assignments, it’d be a very bad omen, but it hasn’t happen yet; why prejudge.

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  57. I’m going to keep both possibilities open until the week after January 20. No politician keeps all his promises. If Trump takes meaningful and consequential steps in the correct direction immediately after taking office, then he’s real. If he starts out by surrendering, or does nothing meaningful, then he was only a sting.

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  58. linh should give trump a chance. the reds have total control of the govt atm. lets see if they can do something for the country unlike how obama and the blues wasted their chance.

    both have 2 years of total control. might be 4 years as more blue seats in congress goes up for election in 2 years.

    This could be bush 2.0(I am betting on this, a tv show man is very easily controlled, just like dumb ass bush jr) or worst. or it could be a breath of fresh air.

    I would love it if I lost this bet.

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  59. I enjoy many of Dinh’s portrayals of common folk, but his political analyses leave much to be desired. I’m beginning to believe that the reason why the former articles work is because he allows the subjects to sort of write the articles themselves. I won’t bother to go into detail here. I’ll just point out one issue that seems to be a base contention:

    “To steal an American election, one only needs to tamper with votes in two or three critical states, and since Hillary didn’t win, we must conclude that she was never the establishment’s chosen puppet. As Trump claimed, the fix was in, all right, except that it was rigged in his favor, as born out by the fact.”

    “one only needs to tamper with votes in two or three critical states”

    In hindsight, yes. However, as prepared as they may think they are with the obviously rigged polling, they don’t know FOR CERTAIN which states will tip them to victory. So they have to have whatever methods of stealing in more states than they may wind up needing. Also: perhaps they DID attempt to swing the states back to Hillary’s favor, but the populist uprising in Trump’s favor was too strong to overcome. There’s more to this, but whatever. This guy chose his conclusion in advance and he’s going to build the narrative around it.

    “and since Hillary didn’t win, we must conclude that she was never the establishment’s chosen puppet”

    We MUST conclude? Damn man: we must think a little more about this before we MUST conclude anything. There are any number of conclusions that we can draw and sometimes the best conclusion is that we don’t KNOW.

    First off: just because people may attempt to rig the election doesn’t mean that they WILL succeed. The establishment made it clear who their choice was via the media — mainstream and social media — Republican defections, and most of all: campaign money.

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    The Election was Stolen – Here’s How…

    Friday, November 11, 2016
    Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives.

    Starting in 2013 – just as the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act – a coterie of Trump operatives, under the direction of Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State, created a system to purge 1.1 million Americans of color from the voter rolls of GOP–controlled states.

    The system, called Crosscheck, is detailed in my Rolling Stone report,
    “The GOP’s Stealth War on Voters,” 8/24/2016.

    Crosscheck in action:
    Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
    Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922

    Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
    Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824

    Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
    North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393

    On Tuesday, we saw Crosscheck elect a Republican Senate and as President, Donald Trump. The electoral putsch was aided by nine other methods of attacking the right to vote of Black, Latino and Asian-American voters, methods detailed in my book and film, including “Caging,” “purging,” blocking legitimate registrations, and wrongly shunting millions to “provisional” ballots that will never be counted.

    http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/#more-12923
  60. The empire is in crisis. It has looted itself to such an extent that serious divisions have arisen. The neocons want to double down while the realists look to a partial withdrawal from empire. They see a rebuilding as necessary. The empire entered a period of hubris post 1989 and forgot to monitor its main rivals ie. Russia and China. It also drove these rivals into each other’s arms, when Russia is culturally very Europe-oriented. Looting reached a point where America had fallen one or more generations behind in the quality of key lethal weapons and transportation systems for those weapons. Because the miltary is weak and the debts are piling up it can no longer maintain empire, enforce the dictates of Wall Street, the expansionism of Israel or attend to the wishes of a lucrative customer – Saudi Arabia. Hence the crisis.

    The realists are old WASPs who resent what they see as a Zionist takeover which is now threatening their very existence. Clinton of course represents the neocons while Trump is the realist candidate. That the rebellion goes deeper and wider than many had imagined can be seen both in the power of the alt right in alternative media and the election results. The alt right is correct on foreign policy and entirely wrong about what is wrong with the country. The problem is not too much government or “socialism” (give us a break!) but too much Wall Street.

    As the Zionists control the established media in its entirety the attempt to crush Trump was genuine. The problem was that, like Rambo in his field, Trump is a first-class practitioner of media. As the campaign reached its climax Trump began to sound more presidential – was he getting quality advice? When the FBI director decided to reopen investigations into Clinton at a very critical point in the election process he could not have done so without some heavy muscle behind him. The neocon Zionists will try to control Trump through old foxes like Bolton while the realists will attempt to block that influence.

    Trump is far too powerful, wealthy and egocentric to be easily controlled. As Mr Unz says he’s a loose cannon. But he is far smarter and stronger than W. Sanders would have been much easier to deal with. They say Sanders would have been better against Trump. No. In Trumpian terms he’s a loser and would have been crushed. HC, despite her considerable baggage, won the popular vote so they weren’t too far off.

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  61. Thank you, sir, for a bellyful of laughs. The logical flaws and nonsequiturs alone make for a comic bonanza. Ron Unz, instead of honoring this idiocy with his unaccountably polite remarks, should start worrying about the reputation of his site if he does not exercise some kind of supervision on what he publishes which would not limit itself to potential number of comments. As for the subject of the so-called Trump ploy, Paul Craig Roberts has already provided a perfectly sensible — and in my view definitive — analysis.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Unless you can support your assertions, you shouldn't be wasting people's time with a comment. Those who have nothing to add, but want to pee on one or the other side of the hydrant, can use the AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC button.
  62. I am hardly a Washington mover and shaker, but my boss sure is and he has filled me in. I can tell you that Dinh doesn’t know what he is talking about. Trump is EXACTLY what he appears to be. He is no puppet of some kind of “Deep State”, he was not “chosen” over Clinton. Trump was not taken seriously by the Republicans in Washington, to say nothing of the Democrats. Is Trump a wild-eyed revolutionary? No, of course not. He is a New York real estate developer, for most of his life a mostly apolitical moderate interested in making money and promoting his brand. As he got older his innate love for this country caused him to make a move which he probably never expected to lead to the White House, because he was disgusted with what was happening to our country. The election probably was rigged for Hillary, but there are limits to this kind of thing and Trump just barely overwhelmed her efforts to steal it. The absurd popular vote totals are the truth teller. Notice that no Democrat has called for a recount. Hell no. It would expose millions of fraudulent votes. Both sides know it. I like Dinh but he really does not know or understand America.

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    • Replies: @dcite
    Most technologies that seem sci-fi when first released, have been around for many years, under the radar. I have seen a video of "cloaking technology" (invisibility) used in Iraq. It's around. A couple years ago, I met a Japanese American, working in tv broadcasting, who described being flown in about 20 minutes to Europe, on a vehicle not in the public domain.

    There is a technology called "reverse speech" which plays back spoken words and captures the real meaning. Has nothing to do with playing Beatles records backwards. It has been pioneered by an Australian named David Oates. Some may think it is woo woo etc., but detectives and police have used it. They also use psychics and wouldn't bother if it didn't work in statistically significant numbers. Reverse speech has a physical proof system -- anyone can test it out, and hear the results.
    The reason I mention it is because Oates has done reversals on public figures for years--and anyone can test his results -- but of course the results are kept out of the MSM for obvious reasons. Occasionally public figures reveal the truth. Reverse speech records words and yet tends to be expressed in metaphors, or just in a more simple version of what they said . It is never just a replay of the speech; it captures the underlying meaning. It is fascinating because when you hear it, you often realize that is what you really heard despite the vocabulary.
    http://davidoates.com/reversespeech/

    Reverse speech works best when the emotions are raw and immediate. As they recede in time, reversals become more hazy, less clear. The reversals he did of some voices recorded at the time of the JFK assassination, are incredible.
    Anyway, he did reversals on HRC and Trump. Hillary sometimes admits in her reversals she is ill and is sick of the lying. Trump's reversals are absolutely congruent. What you hear is exactly what he means. If you don't like what he says, then, well, there's nothing more to say. You don't like him because you don't agree with his words. There's nothing more to delve into.

    We can't know now if his plans, such as they are, will improve things, but in his reversals, doesn't see himself as a Trojan Horse controlled by someone else's plans. He sees himself as an independent agent, propelled by his love of country and no doubt, his comfort level with power. Love of country is a rare commodity nowadays. I haven't felt it in years, but sometimes it is an appropriate sentiment. Under the Bushes and Obama it sank into to the mud but the self-loathing began years ago with LBJ and his ghastly maneuverings.

    Many people responded to Trump when they finally gave him a listen. 1) He attacked and exposed entities such as the MSM and people with trigger fingers on the red button, never before attacked and exposed by such a high level candidate for office, and 2) he is at least sincere, and unlike Clinton, wishes the country and its citizens well, not just his own bank and power accounts.

    We'll just have to see.
  63. Dear Mr. Dinh,

    Your observations are quite good, and most of what you have written is probably true.

    I wish I could agree with you that our unending wars of belligerence in the middle east are needed to keep our economy from collapsing.

    Unfortunately, the reality is the exact opposite, our obscene overspending on wars of aggression abroad ARE collapsing our economy, and have been for years.

    The Iraq war not only quadrupled the price of gasoline and heating oil for every single American, but it drained our nations coffers of trillions of dollars we don’t have.

    Our government has been overspending what it has been drawing in , in revenues, by nearly 900 billion dollars every year since 9-11.

    (Nearly) All that overspending is directly attributed to our “hyper-kinetic” war making, overseas.

    Our National debt has BALLOONED by 15 trillion dollars in a mere sixteen years.

    And ,for the first time ever , the Massive debt these wars have created has eclipsed our annual GDP.

    Nothing about this immense hemorrhaging of our nations wealth is a plus for the credit worthiness of the USA.

    Nothing at all.

    Its not “propping up the dollar”, Mr. Dinh, …………..its eroding it.

    How long do you think other countries will continue to purchase or hold our treasury bonds once they are convinced the US will never overcome the obscene debt these wars have created ?

    Our “hyper kinetic war-making” in the middle east , has been the greatest single assault our our nations solvency in history.

    The USA of sixteen years ago, was operating at a SURPLUS of close to 200 billion dollars a year.

    The national debt was nearly HALF the GDP….which was a reasonably healthy ratio.

    Today, we are running a deficit of over 600 billion dollars and our national debt has ECLIPSED our GDP by almost half a trillion dollars.

    I cannot understand how you perceive this “empire-ing”as a plus for our credit worthiness, our economy, or our solvency .

    On the contrary , our belligerence overseas has “devoured” all three.

    And what do we have to show for all of this ?

    We have transformed half the middle east into a burnt, bombed out, smoldering husk of suffering ,death and destitution for nearly everyone who lives there.

    Hip-hip-Hooray !

    The amount of refugees from war torn regions, our hyper kinetic ” empire” has created, now exceeds 60,000,000 people.

    Why is that a plus, Mr, Dinh ?

    Lets consider for a moment, the “effectiveness” of our mushroomed “homeland security” industries, domestically.

    We now spend hundreds of billions of dollars per year to keep us “free and safe from terror”

    Yet there have been MORE terror attacks over the past year, in the USA, than there were in entire forty years before 9-11 , when our “homeland security” budget was zero.

    How do you explain that, Mr. Dinh ?

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    Hi Alexander,

    The US is messing with Russia and China to prevent the economic integration of Eurasia. Should all these countries fall into the Russian/Chinese orbit, we would be left out in the cold. Yes, our wars and provocations all over cost tons of money, but without this constant imperial flexing, the world would not be intimidated into lending us $19 trillion and counting. All the merchandises flooding this country would dry up. We can afford to run up our obscene debts because we're the bossman swinging a huge stick.

    We also fight Middle East wars to serve Israel, and I don't see that changing in the foreseeable future.


    Linh

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    @Tabasco Jack
    I am sixty-nine years old and in poor health. I am relieved that I will not witness the full horror that will envelop the 99%. I have seen the country decline since Ronald was in office and implemented his trickle down economy. Citizens, you are doomed.

    Well, if you are 69 yrs old then you should know the country has been declining for a lot longer than Reagan. In fact the Reagan years reversed some of the damage.

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    • Replies: @utu
    Reagan (already Carter) via Volcker caused unemployment among well paid labor and busted unions and only then they started reducing unemployment they caused by creating low paid jobs (service) and production (low paid non-union) jobs in Southern states.

    Carter did not want Volcker. He had his own candidate but TPTB over ruled Carter.

    The next stage of lowering wages and deindustrialization took place under Clinton with NAFTA.

    The appearance on the world stage of Thatcher in the UK and Reagan in the US was not a coincidence. Thatcher and Reagan were hired by TPTB to initiate the transition to neoliberal economy.

    Are Brexit and Trump phenomena connected in the same way as Thatcher and Reagan were? What is TPTB plan this time?
    , @MarkinLA
    Yeah, reversing it with amnesty for illegals, pushing for guest workers, pushing for free trade deals, and expanding affirmative action. What else did I forget, central American refugees and the expansion of Islamic fundamentalism? Well actually there are more.
    , @Hibernian
    Slightly slowed down but in no way reversed.
  65. @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm pretty skeptical that there was any sort of Deep State plot to put Trump into the White House. Basically, he was a loose cannon and the Elite Establishment, including nearly all the Neocons, did absolutely everything they could to defeat him.

    However, since there's now talk that he may pick James Woolsey and John Bolton as two of his top national security/foreign policy appointments, the outcome amounts to the same thing---they're two of the most extreme and craziest Neocons. Since Trump was an empty vessel on those sorts of issues, he would end up captured by the close allies of the people who would have been running the same Hillary Clinton portfolios.

    People forget, but "W" was originally elected as the *anti-Neocon* candidate, opposed in the 2000 Republican primaries by nearly all the Neocons (who favored McCain), promising a "humble" foreign policy, and not appointing a single Neocon to any Cabinet-level position. But by the end of the year, he'd been totally captured by the Neocons.

    Unfortunately, it wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happened to Trump...

    “… (Trump) may pick James Woolsey and John Bolton for natl. security/foreign policy appointments… they’re two of the most extreme and craziest Neocons.”

    Ron,

    Such appointments will not surprise, given Donald Trump’s (compromise?) selection of V.P. Pence. He’s packaged as less “crazy” but Pence is no less ideologically committed by his observable deeds performed on behalf of the Globalist and Neoconservative agenda. Please look at You Tube below which I feel is pretty objective?

    The Neoconservative infestation of Trump’s administration has already begun.

    Thank you Linh Dinh for such thought provoking article which shows how much real POTUS candidate agendas are subtracted from the knowledge base of the average American voter.

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  66. Nothing will change for the better.

    And that’d be the bottom line; it always is when yer dealing with gubbermint, politicians, and something for nothing casinos too.

    I can’t believe people have been so suckered, again. Well, at least The Harridan got some of what it deserves.

    LD, this article is 5 star for sure.

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  67. @woodNfish
    Nice try Linh, but I'm not buying it. Trump is already putting his program together and its key points were published yesterday. And in regards to the mentally deranged pervs out there, Trump paraded around on stage at one of his rallies carrying a "LGBT's for Trump" banner over his head and the crowd cheered him on. Your fag friends need to stop listening to the lying LSM.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-10/trump-reveals-policy-goals-building-wall-end-war-coal-repeal-obamacare-dismantle-dod

    We’ll see. I’m expecting peace with Russia and a resolution of the horrible messes in the Ukraine and Syria, created by Hillary and Obama. If those things happen, then you will be definitely wrong Linh….

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  68. I stopped reading when you said he won by a landslide. This is one of the weak writers on the site. I am glad he won too, but to say landslide when he lost the popular discredits the serious ideas that should happen on this site.

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  69. It’s cute how people here think the US actually has some form of democracy. That the “people have spoken”. It’s as if people forget the CIA has been the master of perception management since its inception.

    In today’s age of instant tweets and live streams you need more intricate acts in an election. This election, like all elections in the US, is just a massive clown show. All that media against Trump was to build the drama. His ‘victory’ will be used to incite the left in demonstrating how racist white America is, and white America is placated again through the appointment of a president who says what they want to hear but clearly will do whatever the powers of be will demand.

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  70. @Connecticut Famer
    My hand lingered over the name "Gary Johnson" before casting a very shaky vote for Trump and against The Liar. While on the one hand I was glad that woman wasn't elected, on the other hand I have no illusions whatsoever about Trump to do much of anything. Our problems are deep-seated and beyond the ability of government to solve.

    Our problems are deep-seated and beyond the ability of government to solve.

    In fact, it’s worse than that. Contrary to all the mythology, big government exists only to to solve the problems of the ruling (moneyed) classes.

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  71. linh

    deep state or whatever you call it lost control of this one in the last month.a few memes here and there and that was that.now they are scrambling.this election was the first true age of internet election.
    this will not end until a female republican president is elected.then the real changes will start.

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  72. Mr. Linh,
    what’s with Lloyd Blankfein forbidding his apprentices to give money to Trump? All a conspiracy?

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    Hi Stogumber,

    This was broadcast all over the media, and since Blankfein is deeply despised, not just by Trump supporters but nearly everyone else, how did it hurt Trump?

    Blankfein is like a cartoon bankster, man. His fiat against Trump was a ruse, a head fake, meant to convey to dupes that Trump was the banksters' enemy. It couldn't have been done more crudely.


    Linh
  73. @alexander
    Dear Mr. Dinh,

    Your observations are quite good, and most of what you have written is probably true.

    I wish I could agree with you that our unending wars of belligerence in the middle east are needed to keep our economy from collapsing.

    Unfortunately, the reality is the exact opposite, our obscene overspending on wars of aggression abroad ARE collapsing our economy, and have been for years.

    The Iraq war not only quadrupled the price of gasoline and heating oil for every single American, but it drained our nations coffers of trillions of dollars we don't have.

    Our government has been overspending what it has been drawing in , in revenues, by nearly 900 billion dollars every year since 9-11.

    (Nearly) All that overspending is directly attributed to our "hyper-kinetic" war making, overseas.

    Our National debt has BALLOONED by 15 trillion dollars in a mere sixteen years.

    And ,for the first time ever , the Massive debt these wars have created has eclipsed our annual GDP.

    Nothing about this immense hemorrhaging of our nations wealth is a plus for the credit worthiness of the USA.

    Nothing at all.

    Its not "propping up the dollar", Mr. Dinh, ..............its eroding it.

    How long do you think other countries will continue to purchase or hold our treasury bonds once they are convinced the US will never overcome the obscene debt these wars have created ?

    Our "hyper kinetic war-making" in the middle east , has been the greatest single assault our our nations solvency in history.

    The USA of sixteen years ago, was operating at a SURPLUS of close to 200 billion dollars a year.

    The national debt was nearly HALF the GDP....which was a reasonably healthy ratio.

    Today, we are running a deficit of over 600 billion dollars and our national debt has ECLIPSED our GDP by almost half a trillion dollars.

    I cannot understand how you perceive this "empire-ing"as a plus for our credit worthiness, our economy, or our solvency .

    On the contrary , our belligerence overseas has "devoured" all three.

    And what do we have to show for all of this ?

    We have transformed half the middle east into a burnt, bombed out, smoldering husk of suffering ,death and destitution for nearly everyone who lives there.

    Hip-hip-Hooray !

    The amount of refugees from war torn regions, our hyper kinetic " empire" has created, now exceeds 60,000,000 people.

    Why is that a plus, Mr, Dinh ?


    Lets consider for a moment, the "effectiveness" of our mushroomed "homeland security" industries, domestically.

    We now spend hundreds of billions of dollars per year to keep us "free and safe from terror"

    Yet there have been MORE terror attacks over the past year, in the USA, than there were in entire forty years before 9-11 , when our "homeland security" budget was zero.

    How do you explain that, Mr. Dinh ?

    Hi Alexander,

    The US is messing with Russia and China to prevent the economic integration of Eurasia. Should all these countries fall into the Russian/Chinese orbit, we would be left out in the cold. Yes, our wars and provocations all over cost tons of money, but without this constant imperial flexing, the world would not be intimidated into lending us $19 trillion and counting. All the merchandises flooding this country would dry up. We can afford to run up our obscene debts because we’re the bossman swinging a huge stick.

    We also fight Middle East wars to serve Israel, and I don’t see that changing in the foreseeable future.

    Linh

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    Dear Linh ,

    Thanks for the response.

    Unfortunately, it is somewhat solipsistic and ridiculous.

    Considering that by the year 2000,The USA already HAD established itself as the preeminent military force on the planet ( the "big stick") when our budget for being so was 250 billion dollars per year.

    This was nearly 9 times the budget of any other nation at the time.

    And Americans were happy to pay it. I know I was..

    Every other country on the planet was racing to purchase our treasury bonds (what you refer to as "loaning us money") because of our outstanding credit worthiness based on being the supreme economic powerhouse of the world , that balanced its budget , ran a surplus, and had very LITTLE debt relative to our GDP.

    AND..... the most powerful "military" on the planet.

    BUT somehow your argument is... that our government ,under the stewardship of our beloved neocons, LIED us into war ...vaporizing 19 trillion dollars of our solvency, so we could have a Big Stick to extort the rest of the world into loaning us 19 trillion dollars to underwrite our insolvency from fighting the bogus wars of aggression they LIED us into ?.

    This is a solipsistic argument, Linh.

    And pretty ridiculous too.

    Wouldn't you agree ?

    The point I am making is that after 9-11, our government had a clear mandate from the American People to bring the perpetrators to justice.....they never had a mandate to LIE us into war, or start destroying other countries that NEVER attacked us.

    Just the fact that we WERE lied into war ,in the first place , should put the ONUS of "paying for it" on the LIARS.....not the "lied-to" taxpayer.

    If President elect Trump, had any real "cojones" at all, he would arrest them , right away, claw back ALL the trillions they pocketed from this "deceit", and use those funds to jump start his infrastructure plan to get Americans back to work.

    That is the SMART play.

    What has shaken the "establishment" (down to its bones), is THEY KNOW its the smart play, and they know they deserve it.

    Big time.
  74. @Anonymous
    Well, if you are 69 yrs old then you should know the country has been declining for a lot longer than Reagan. In fact the Reagan years reversed some of the damage.

    Reagan (already Carter) via Volcker caused unemployment among well paid labor and busted unions and only then they started reducing unemployment they caused by creating low paid jobs (service) and production (low paid non-union) jobs in Southern states.

    Carter did not want Volcker. He had his own candidate but TPTB over ruled Carter.

    The next stage of lowering wages and deindustrialization took place under Clinton with NAFTA.

    The appearance on the world stage of Thatcher in the UK and Reagan in the US was not a coincidence. Thatcher and Reagan were hired by TPTB to initiate the transition to neoliberal economy.

    Are Brexit and Trump phenomena connected in the same way as Thatcher and Reagan were? What is TPTB plan this time?

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  75. Way to go Dinh. You obviously need a quiet place to cry and get all that teenage angst out of your system. Your approach to the problem is typical: Gee, we lost…okay, we didn’t really lose it was all a great big con job…yeah, that’s it, we were cheated into thinking this election was anything but just another dog and pony show. See, Trump didn’t really win.

    Say, Dinh, weren’t you one of those far seeing, oh so sagacious political whine-bots who knew, just KNEW Trump wouldn’t last a week? Oh, but it was all a big con-job, which is why Wall Street and the MSM poured millions of bucks in to the Dems campaigns? Oh, but that was part of the con, right? Yeah, yeah, the “Deep State” (aka Dinh’s fav boogieman) is responsible! It wasn’t that America got sick and tired of watching the grand give-away of what American’s had worked for because “they didn’t earn that”, nope, it was because America was hypnotized, or something.

    But you keep up the crying, Dinh, it’s music to my ears.

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    You obviously didn't read my article.

    I repeatedly predicted that Trump would win when no one else did.

    Don't comment on articles you haven't read, buddy. It makes you look pretty stupid.

  76. @Stogumber
    Mr. Linh,
    what's with Lloyd Blankfein forbidding his apprentices to give money to Trump? All a conspiracy?

    Hi Stogumber,

    This was broadcast all over the media, and since Blankfein is deeply despised, not just by Trump supporters but nearly everyone else, how did it hurt Trump?

    Blankfein is like a cartoon bankster, man. His fiat against Trump was a ruse, a head fake, meant to convey to dupes that Trump was the banksters’ enemy. It couldn’t have been done more crudely.

    Linh

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  77. @A Sperger
    Way to go Dinh. You obviously need a quiet place to cry and get all that teenage angst out of your system. Your approach to the problem is typical: Gee, we lost...okay, we didn't really lose it was all a great big con job...yeah, that's it, we were cheated into thinking this election was anything but just another dog and pony show. See, Trump didn't really win.

    Say, Dinh, weren't you one of those far seeing, oh so sagacious political whine-bots who knew, just KNEW Trump wouldn't last a week? Oh, but it was all a big con-job, which is why Wall Street and the MSM poured millions of bucks in to the Dems campaigns? Oh, but that was part of the con, right? Yeah, yeah, the "Deep State" (aka Dinh's fav boogieman) is responsible! It wasn't that America got sick and tired of watching the grand give-away of what American's had worked for because "they didn't earn that", nope, it was because America was hypnotized, or something.

    But you keep up the crying, Dinh, it's music to my ears.

    You obviously didn’t read my article.

    I repeatedly predicted that Trump would win when no one else did.

    Don’t comment on articles you haven’t read, buddy. It makes you look pretty stupid.

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    • Replies: @utu
    Mr. Linh Dinh, you are onto something but we still do not know what is the plan.

    I keep wondering about the connection between Brexit and Trump. What does the anglo-american (+zio) establishment has in store for us this time?

    The change often comes form London but thet it is up to the American 800 lb gorilla to impose the change on the whole world. In late 1970s it was Thatcher who was the harbinger of Reagan. The whole idea of shaking up the economy and remaking it into a neoliberal model came from the City. In the US it was accomplished very simply by Volcker (who was forced on Carter) by jacking up interest rates under the pretense of fighting with inflation. For bankers inflation means just high wages. They drove up unemployment and busted unions and then started fighting with the unemployment they first created by reducing taxes for the rich and creating service jobs and non-union production jobs in the South. Then came NAFTA under Bush and Clinton and we know the rest of the story.

    Now many years later we know what the Deep Sate had in store for us when they got us Thatcher and Reagan. What is their plan by giving us Brexit and Trump? Are they connected?
    , @utu
    Last week of October the Deep Sate sent two message that Clinton would not win. First it was WSJ article about Clinton money for the wife of vice director of FBI and second it was Comey's letter on Oct. 28. You can read about it here: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/10/the-big-split/

    My take on it was that WSJ and Comey were sending signal to media that Trump would win and media must adjust their narrative and start scaling down support for Clinton and stop using false poll results if they want to preserve remnants of their reputation. Also Comey was giving to media an ideal excuse for them being wrong to blame him that it was his action that a gave victory to Trump. Clinton supporters are blaming Comey now, right? This weakens Trump as well (Deep Sate always wants their presidents to be weak, right?) because now Trump owes (or at least may think so) his presidency to the Deep State.
    , @A Sperger
    You predicted, so what? Your prediction was based on what you assume is "a deep state" allowing Trump to win. Like I said, that's so you can claim nobody actually "won" anything or "lost" anything because it was all a "ploy". Again, your horsehockey is underwhelming, and try as you might to get some attention, any attention, you arguments are no less invalid.

    If the "deep state" ushers in whomever they want, why have this time wasting "election" crapola at all? Oh, because they have to "fool" everybody or else the population might revolt? And what do you call what just happened?
  78. Knowing how angry the working class has become, the deep state could not install Hillary

    It’s a point of view – and if John Bolton joins his team, or Newt gets State, you’ll be proved correct right away.

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  79. @Linh Dinh
    You obviously didn't read my article.

    I repeatedly predicted that Trump would win when no one else did.

    Don't comment on articles you haven't read, buddy. It makes you look pretty stupid.

    Mr. Linh Dinh, you are onto something but we still do not know what is the plan.

    I keep wondering about the connection between Brexit and Trump. What does the anglo-american (+zio) establishment has in store for us this time?

    The change often comes form London but thet it is up to the American 800 lb gorilla to impose the change on the whole world. In late 1970s it was Thatcher who was the harbinger of Reagan. The whole idea of shaking up the economy and remaking it into a neoliberal model came from the City. In the US it was accomplished very simply by Volcker (who was forced on Carter) by jacking up interest rates under the pretense of fighting with inflation. For bankers inflation means just high wages. They drove up unemployment and busted unions and then started fighting with the unemployment they first created by reducing taxes for the rich and creating service jobs and non-union production jobs in the South. Then came NAFTA under Bush and Clinton and we know the rest of the story.

    Now many years later we know what the Deep Sate had in store for us when they got us Thatcher and Reagan. What is their plan by giving us Brexit and Trump? Are they connected?

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    Hi utu,

    Brexit and the Trump win are merely symbolic victories for the masses. With its own currency, England was never really a part of the European Union anyway, and since it's physically apart, it never had to worry about EU-styled open borders. Despite all that, England is the most multicultural of all European countries, with its traditional identity most diluted. Brexit, then, was allowed as a symbolic backlash, same as the Trump presidency.

    I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.


    Linh

    , @MarkinLA
    For bankers inflation means just high wages.

    Yeah and for workers it means raises that don't keep up with inflation. It means asset prices going through the roof keeping average people from affording them. It also means increasing income and payroll taxes which push them into higher tax brackets.

    Inflation WAS a big deal back then for working people. Working people had to waste a lot of their time worrying about how to keep their money. An engineer friend of mine was in a horse racing syndicate because the tax laws were so convoluted that he got a write off of 5 times his "investment". Not bad when the tax rate for the average stiff is 40% federal. Between state and federal taxes and no deductions as an engineer with two years experience, when I got a raise, I got to keep about 40% of it. Imagine if my pay was doubled as a senior engineer, I probably would get to keep 25% back then.

    Where do you think all that get rich quick in real estate garbage started? Robert Allen was the first guy. Buy a house by offering no money just a higher price than the market but all of it on paper (assume the first and the seller holds the second) and wait for inflation to make the seller look dumb.
  80. @Linh Dinh
    You obviously didn't read my article.

    I repeatedly predicted that Trump would win when no one else did.

    Don't comment on articles you haven't read, buddy. It makes you look pretty stupid.

    Last week of October the Deep Sate sent two message that Clinton would not win. First it was WSJ article about Clinton money for the wife of vice director of FBI and second it was Comey’s letter on Oct. 28. You can read about it here: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/10/the-big-split/

    My take on it was that WSJ and Comey were sending signal to media that Trump would win and media must adjust their narrative and start scaling down support for Clinton and stop using false poll results if they want to preserve remnants of their reputation. Also Comey was giving to media an ideal excuse for them being wrong to blame him that it was his action that a gave victory to Trump. Clinton supporters are blaming Comey now, right? This weakens Trump as well (Deep Sate always wants their presidents to be weak, right?) because now Trump owes (or at least may think so) his presidency to the Deep State.

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  81. @utu
    Mr. Linh Dinh, you are onto something but we still do not know what is the plan.

    I keep wondering about the connection between Brexit and Trump. What does the anglo-american (+zio) establishment has in store for us this time?

    The change often comes form London but thet it is up to the American 800 lb gorilla to impose the change on the whole world. In late 1970s it was Thatcher who was the harbinger of Reagan. The whole idea of shaking up the economy and remaking it into a neoliberal model came from the City. In the US it was accomplished very simply by Volcker (who was forced on Carter) by jacking up interest rates under the pretense of fighting with inflation. For bankers inflation means just high wages. They drove up unemployment and busted unions and then started fighting with the unemployment they first created by reducing taxes for the rich and creating service jobs and non-union production jobs in the South. Then came NAFTA under Bush and Clinton and we know the rest of the story.

    Now many years later we know what the Deep Sate had in store for us when they got us Thatcher and Reagan. What is their plan by giving us Brexit and Trump? Are they connected?

    Hi utu,

    Brexit and the Trump win are merely symbolic victories for the masses. With its own currency, England was never really a part of the European Union anyway, and since it’s physically apart, it never had to worry about EU-styled open borders. Despite all that, England is the most multicultural of all European countries, with its traditional identity most diluted. Brexit, then, was allowed as a symbolic backlash, same as the Trump presidency.

    I’d love to hear your thoughts on this.

    Linh

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    Mr. Dinh,

    As an island, they can more easily control illegal immigration, but doesn't EU pressure them to allow mor legal immigration? And don't they have castaways, stowaways, and visa overstayers? It's only about 20 miles from Calais to Dover.
    , @utu
    "I’d love to hear your thoughts on this." You asked for it.

    In August 2015 when the marching columns of young male muslims in Europe became the daily occurrence in news I began to wonder how did Trump know in on June 15, 2015 to focus his first speech on the subject of illegal immigration and on building of the wall. Only then I began to take Trump seriously. His insight was not a coincidence. He or his handlers must have had the info that the refugee crisis was about to unfold soon. It was not Ann Coulter or Steve Sailer as they like to think here at Unz, who were responsible for the most important pillar of Trump's platform. It was just an opportunistic choice promulgated by the impending invasion on Europe. And then it stuck.

    The refugee invasion was directed against Germany, not a very reliable ally of America and Israel. The Germany's proclivity for flirtation with Russia was always suspect. Already Bismarck was saying that the secret behind his successful policy (of unification of Germany) was a good pact with Russia. Any pacts with Russia after 2014 Ukraine were verboten.

    But what really was to be accomplished by the waves of refugees? The instigators were hoping that Europe (Germany) would get its act together and help to bring the no-fly zone to Syria for the final act of planned destruction of Syria. And because of Iranian involvement on the side of Assad the bombing of Syrian and Iranian troops would derail the Iran deal that Obama has just finalized.

    But things did not go as the planners hoped for. Angela Merkel in a masterful aikido gambit embraced the refugees and thus diffused the tension obviously at high cost to Germany and German people and by doing so she gave Putin few more weeks to move into Syria to kill any chance for the American no-fly zone. All in the same month of September 2015.

    Who were the people behind Trump in June 2015? Certainly they were people with connections to CIA and Mossad.

    Who was to benefit from the refugee invasion on Europe in 2015? Those who wanted to finish Syria off and kill Obama's deal with Iran.

    Who will benefit the most (and already does) form America's attempt to build the wall? Israel. It legitimizes everything what Israel does.

    Is the raise of new European right resulting from the backlash to the muslim invasion a concern for the instigator of the invasion? No, as long as the traditional anti-Semitism associated with old European right is replaced with islamophobia and admiration for Israel who shows the way how to deal with muslims and Arabs.. This shift has already occurred years ago. Marine Le Pen unlike her father has very good relations with Zionists. The same goes for British right. And in extreme case it suffices to read Breivik manifesto to see the face of the New Right. And for the mild American version of it one can see hints of this realignment in comments at iSteve.

    As Trump campaign was unfolding I kept wondering whether he could have any chance to win. Were his backers really serious in having him? A guy of very limited intellect and knowledge with serious personality flaws? Really? Several months I concluded that if Trump is permitted to win it may mean only one thing: the Deep State, whatever it is, have something really serious in store for us. Is it going to be great depression, a war...?
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Allowed? Allowed by whom and by what mechanism? I've enjoyed your pieces where you get people to talk without art but in this fantasy mode (or is it genuine earnest ignorance) you are full of BS. Never part of the EU because not in the EZ is also an ignorant gross exaggeration. Stick to what you know.
  82. Several commenters have brought up Craig Roberts’ analysis as a rebuttal to mine, so I must remind everyone that Roberts started out by warning, repeatedly, that the election would be rigged against Trump.

    When Comey reopened the Clinton investigation, Roberts then said that the election would be rigged for Trump. Now, Roberts is saying that the deep state forgot to rig anything at all since they were so mesmerized by their own propaganda that Clinton would win.

    If they’re going to rig, they’ll rig, and the propaganda is always meant for us doofuses, not themselves. To say that they neglected to rig the election because they believed their own bullshit makes no sense.

    I’m a long-time admirer of Paul Craig Roberts, but I don’t think his incoherent analysis in this instance is very useful.

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    If they’re going to rig, they’ll rig, and the propaganda is always meant for us doofuses, not themselves.
     
    But you can only rig so much; there are only so many dead men able to clamber out of their graves: only so many illegals you can bus in - this was likely a much bigger tidal wave than the popular vote suggests.
    , @utu
    "I’m a long-time admirer of Paul Craig Roberts, but I don’t think his incoherent analysis in this instance is very useful."

    Since Reagan I knew that PCR had tendency in believing in any BS including his own. He was probably the only one among Reagan voodoo economists who actually believed in it. The smarter among them knew it was just PR BS directed at American people to justify the destruction of the well paid jobs and priming America and the world for the new era of neoliberalism.
    , @Brás Cubas
    Your response is as nonsensical as your article. You clearly are not respectful of logic or even semantics. But, as I said, or implied, earlier, you are not to blame. Ron Unz is an excessively liberal editor, and that is all. Keep writing your chronicles, and you will be fine. Just do not try political analysis. It is not your field.
    , @Oldeguy
    No need, really, to attempt to rebut the still mesmerized and ( false ) victory drunk Trumpistas.
    The next six, or at most twelve months ( and maybe a damn sight sooner ) will show the True Donald.
    Trump, like Obama before him, has been a sort of blank slate upon which the disaffected could project their hopes and dreams.
    His wilder statements could easily be laughed off as rhetorical hyperbole " but you know his heart is in the right place"; maybe so, maybe not- we'll soon find out.
  83. Linh Dinh may be right in which case “main street” will be deeply frustrated. This could lead the US to a state similar to the Soviet Union when it collapses.
    If the US with Trump are making a pause in their aggression, it is good for the world as time is not running in favor of the US deep state.
    By 2020 triggering a war against Russia will be suicidal for the US, as Russia will have completed the modernization of its defense. So I do not understand why the deep state which has never care for the US main street, has choosen Trump instead of Clinton who would not have waited to start the war.

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  84. @MarkinLA
    Obama’s relatively high LSAT score, 94th to 98th percentile

    I don't think whites get into Harvard Law School with LSAT percentiles that low, do they?

    No, whites don’t not get into Harvard Law School with LSAT percentiles that low. Glancing at today’s figures, the top 25 percent of Harvard Law have LSAT scores are in the 99.4 percentile range and above, 175 and up. The bottom 25 percent have scores in the 97.3 percentile range, 170 and below. Since Steve Sailer said that Obama only applied to Harvard, Yale, and Stanford and no safety schools, I would guess that Obama scored in the 98th percentile, which would have been average for those schools.

    The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education points out that if not for affirmative action, there wouldn’t be blacks in top medical, law, or business schools. (Based on my anecdotal research, the one or two blacks admitted on merit alone would overwhelmingly be mixed-race or the child of immigrants, like Obama.)

    In 2004, 10,370 blacks took the LSAT examination. Only 29 blacks, or 0.3 percent of all LSAT test takers, scored 170 or above. In contrast, more than 1,900 white test takers scored 170 or above on the LSAT. They made up 3.1 percent of all white test takers. Thus whites were more than 10 times as likely as blacks to score 170 or above on the LSAT. There were 66 times as many whites as blacks who scored 170 or above on the test.

    Even if we drop the scoring level to 165, a level equal to the mean score of students enrolling at law schools ranked in the top 10 nationwide but not at the very top, we still find very few blacks. There were 108 blacks scoring 165 or better on the LSAT in 2004. They made up 1 percent of all black test takers. For whites, there were 6,689 test takers who scored 165 or above. They made up 10.6 percent of all white students who took the LSAT examination.

    The nation’s top law schools could fill their classes exclusively with students who scored 165 or above on the LSAT. But if they were to do so, these law schools would have almost no black students.

    http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/51_graduate_admissions_test.html

    http://hls.harvard.edu/dept/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/hls-profile-and-facts/

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    I would guess

    I wouldn't. I would just assume he got in only because he was black. The same as why he was voted in as editor of the HLR.
    , @utu
    170 out 10,370 amounts to 1.6%. 1.6% is 2 times less than 3.1%. So where do you get "Thus whites were more than 10 times as likely as blacks to score 170" from?
    , @Jim Christian

    The nation’s top law schools could fill their classes exclusively with students who scored 165 or above on the LSAT. But if they were to do so, these law schools would have almost no black students.
     
    My oh my, Obama was just talking about meritocracy in our system Phhht, there is none. Still, with no Blacks, how would you get #BLM in to harass the Whites, as up here at Dartmouth: https://youtu.be/Ts6bk6J5C20 .

    Morons. These White kids are the real deal. They're all headed to judgeship, lawyers, cops, legislatures, people of influence and power. And what does #BLM do? Give them a lasting impression of Blacks to leave college with. One day, those Blacks will appear before some of those kids they harassed, as a Judge, or will be affected by a law written by one of these kids they harassed. Blacks are morons. Flip them the bird. Riots? Take care of THAT. The militant 6% can easily be dispatched. Fond hope and wish, but forget it.
  85. @Chris Bridges
    I am hardly a Washington mover and shaker, but my boss sure is and he has filled me in. I can tell you that Dinh doesn't know what he is talking about. Trump is EXACTLY what he appears to be. He is no puppet of some kind of "Deep State", he was not "chosen" over Clinton. Trump was not taken seriously by the Republicans in Washington, to say nothing of the Democrats. Is Trump a wild-eyed revolutionary? No, of course not. He is a New York real estate developer, for most of his life a mostly apolitical moderate interested in making money and promoting his brand. As he got older his innate love for this country caused him to make a move which he probably never expected to lead to the White House, because he was disgusted with what was happening to our country. The election probably was rigged for Hillary, but there are limits to this kind of thing and Trump just barely overwhelmed her efforts to steal it. The absurd popular vote totals are the truth teller. Notice that no Democrat has called for a recount. Hell no. It would expose millions of fraudulent votes. Both sides know it. I like Dinh but he really does not know or understand America.

    Most technologies that seem sci-fi when first released, have been around for many years, under the radar. I have seen a video of “cloaking technology” (invisibility) used in Iraq. It’s around. A couple years ago, I met a Japanese American, working in tv broadcasting, who described being flown in about 20 minutes to Europe, on a vehicle not in the public domain.

    There is a technology called “reverse speech” which plays back spoken words and captures the real meaning. Has nothing to do with playing Beatles records backwards. It has been pioneered by an Australian named David Oates. Some may think it is woo woo etc., but detectives and police have used it. They also use psychics and wouldn’t bother if it didn’t work in statistically significant numbers. Reverse speech has a physical proof system — anyone can test it out, and hear the results.
    The reason I mention it is because Oates has done reversals on public figures for years–and anyone can test his results — but of course the results are kept out of the MSM for obvious reasons. Occasionally public figures reveal the truth. Reverse speech records words and yet tends to be expressed in metaphors, or just in a more simple version of what they said . It is never just a replay of the speech; it captures the underlying meaning. It is fascinating because when you hear it, you often realize that is what you really heard despite the vocabulary.

    http://davidoates.com/reversespeech/

    Reverse speech works best when the emotions are raw and immediate. As they recede in time, reversals become more hazy, less clear. The reversals he did of some voices recorded at the time of the JFK assassination, are incredible.
    Anyway, he did reversals on HRC and Trump. Hillary sometimes admits in her reversals she is ill and is sick of the lying. Trump’s reversals are absolutely congruent. What you hear is exactly what he means. If you don’t like what he says, then, well, there’s nothing more to say. You don’t like him because you don’t agree with his words. There’s nothing more to delve into.

    We can’t know now if his plans, such as they are, will improve things, but in his reversals, doesn’t see himself as a Trojan Horse controlled by someone else’s plans. He sees himself as an independent agent, propelled by his love of country and no doubt, his comfort level with power. Love of country is a rare commodity nowadays. I haven’t felt it in years, but sometimes it is an appropriate sentiment. Under the Bushes and Obama it sank into to the mud but the self-loathing began years ago with LBJ and his ghastly maneuverings.

    Many people responded to Trump when they finally gave him a listen. 1) He attacked and exposed entities such as the MSM and people with trigger fingers on the red button, never before attacked and exposed by such a high level candidate for office, and 2) he is at least sincere, and unlike Clinton, wishes the country and its citizens well, not just his own bank and power accounts.

    We’ll just have to see.

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  86. @Anonymous
    Some of the media attacked him, some of the media shilled for him.

    Who in the media besides the Alt-Right was shilling for Trump? The MSM took every opportunity to take a shot at him. They waited for hours at a Gloria Allred press conference a few days before the election waiting for an eventual no-show Trump accuser. This is just one example.

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    Alex Jones, controlled opposition, shilled for him. So did wikileaks.
  87. Mr. Dinh,

    You have my agreement on some, likely Trump was a bait and switch operation.

    Still, I am happy that Hillary ‘Kiss the pussy’ did not make it.

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  88. More, all of his offspring are marrhed into Zionism, it is all rather hideous.

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  89. @Anonymous
    Well, if you are 69 yrs old then you should know the country has been declining for a lot longer than Reagan. In fact the Reagan years reversed some of the damage.

    Yeah, reversing it with amnesty for illegals, pushing for guest workers, pushing for free trade deals, and expanding affirmative action. What else did I forget, central American refugees and the expansion of Islamic fundamentalism? Well actually there are more.

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  90. @Linh Dinh
    Several commenters have brought up Craig Roberts' analysis as a rebuttal to mine, so I must remind everyone that Roberts started out by warning, repeatedly, that the election would be rigged against Trump.

    When Comey reopened the Clinton investigation, Roberts then said that the election would be rigged for Trump. Now, Roberts is saying that the deep state forgot to rig anything at all since they were so mesmerized by their own propaganda that Clinton would win.

    If they're going to rig, they'll rig, and the propaganda is always meant for us doofuses, not themselves. To say that they neglected to rig the election because they believed their own bullshit makes no sense.

    I'm a long-time admirer of Paul Craig Roberts, but I don't think his incoherent analysis in this instance is very useful.

    If they’re going to rig, they’ll rig, and the propaganda is always meant for us doofuses, not themselves.

    But you can only rig so much; there are only so many dead men able to clamber out of their graves: only so many illegals you can bus in – this was likely a much bigger tidal wave than the popular vote suggests.

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    I'm talking about hacking the voting machines. Again, 30 states used voting machines that could be hacked or preprogrammed. A voting machine is like a slot machine, eh. It does whatever the hell it wants to do.
  91. @Triumph104
    No, whites don't not get into Harvard Law School with LSAT percentiles that low. Glancing at today's figures, the top 25 percent of Harvard Law have LSAT scores are in the 99.4 percentile range and above, 175 and up. The bottom 25 percent have scores in the 97.3 percentile range, 170 and below. Since Steve Sailer said that Obama only applied to Harvard, Yale, and Stanford and no safety schools, I would guess that Obama scored in the 98th percentile, which would have been average for those schools.

    The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education points out that if not for affirmative action, there wouldn't be blacks in top medical, law, or business schools. (Based on my anecdotal research, the one or two blacks admitted on merit alone would overwhelmingly be mixed-race or the child of immigrants, like Obama.)


    In 2004, 10,370 blacks took the LSAT examination. Only 29 blacks, or 0.3 percent of all LSAT test takers, scored 170 or above. In contrast, more than 1,900 white test takers scored 170 or above on the LSAT. They made up 3.1 percent of all white test takers. Thus whites were more than 10 times as likely as blacks to score 170 or above on the LSAT. There were 66 times as many whites as blacks who scored 170 or above on the test.

    Even if we drop the scoring level to 165, a level equal to the mean score of students enrolling at law schools ranked in the top 10 nationwide but not at the very top, we still find very few blacks. There were 108 blacks scoring 165 or better on the LSAT in 2004. They made up 1 percent of all black test takers. For whites, there were 6,689 test takers who scored 165 or above. They made up 10.6 percent of all white students who took the LSAT examination.

    The nation's top law schools could fill their classes exclusively with students who scored 165 or above on the LSAT. But if they were to do so, these law schools would have almost no black students.

    http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/51_graduate_admissions_test.html

     

    http://hls.harvard.edu/dept/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/hls-profile-and-facts/

    I would guess

    I wouldn’t. I would just assume he got in only because he was black. The same as why he was voted in as editor of the HLR.

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  92. @Elizabeth

    Only the infantile will imagine the president as any kind of savior or, even more hilariously, anti-establishment. Since the deep state won’t even tolerate a renegade reporter at, say, the San Jose Mercury News, how can you expect a deep state’s enemy to land in the White House?! It cannot happen.
     
    Good point, there. I've been surprised by Paul Craig Roberts' take on the Trump victory.

    Link to the Paul Robert’s article?

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  93. @macilrae

    If they’re going to rig, they’ll rig, and the propaganda is always meant for us doofuses, not themselves.
     
    But you can only rig so much; there are only so many dead men able to clamber out of their graves: only so many illegals you can bus in - this was likely a much bigger tidal wave than the popular vote suggests.

    I’m talking about hacking the voting machines. Again, 30 states used voting machines that could be hacked or preprogrammed. A voting machine is like a slot machine, eh. It does whatever the hell it wants to do.

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    I’m talking about hacking the voting machines.
     
    Sure, I know, and if the machines were rigged of course such rigging couldn't exceed the bounds of credibility and so we might assume they under-estimated and, again, the popular vote reported is skewed even more.
  94. @Triumph104
    No, whites don't not get into Harvard Law School with LSAT percentiles that low. Glancing at today's figures, the top 25 percent of Harvard Law have LSAT scores are in the 99.4 percentile range and above, 175 and up. The bottom 25 percent have scores in the 97.3 percentile range, 170 and below. Since Steve Sailer said that Obama only applied to Harvard, Yale, and Stanford and no safety schools, I would guess that Obama scored in the 98th percentile, which would have been average for those schools.

    The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education points out that if not for affirmative action, there wouldn't be blacks in top medical, law, or business schools. (Based on my anecdotal research, the one or two blacks admitted on merit alone would overwhelmingly be mixed-race or the child of immigrants, like Obama.)


    In 2004, 10,370 blacks took the LSAT examination. Only 29 blacks, or 0.3 percent of all LSAT test takers, scored 170 or above. In contrast, more than 1,900 white test takers scored 170 or above on the LSAT. They made up 3.1 percent of all white test takers. Thus whites were more than 10 times as likely as blacks to score 170 or above on the LSAT. There were 66 times as many whites as blacks who scored 170 or above on the test.

    Even if we drop the scoring level to 165, a level equal to the mean score of students enrolling at law schools ranked in the top 10 nationwide but not at the very top, we still find very few blacks. There were 108 blacks scoring 165 or better on the LSAT in 2004. They made up 1 percent of all black test takers. For whites, there were 6,689 test takers who scored 165 or above. They made up 10.6 percent of all white students who took the LSAT examination.

    The nation's top law schools could fill their classes exclusively with students who scored 165 or above on the LSAT. But if they were to do so, these law schools would have almost no black students.

    http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/51_graduate_admissions_test.html

     

    http://hls.harvard.edu/dept/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/hls-profile-and-facts/

    170 out 10,370 amounts to 1.6%. 1.6% is 2 times less than 3.1%. So where do you get “Thus whites were more than 10 times as likely as blacks to score 170″ from?

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    170 is a score on the LSAT. It is not the number of test takers.

    Math:
    29 out 10,370 black test takers scored 170 or above means that 0.3% of black LSAT test takers scored 170 or above.

    3.1% of whites scored 170 or above. 3.1 is more than 10 times greater than 0.3.
  95. @Linh Dinh
    Several commenters have brought up Craig Roberts' analysis as a rebuttal to mine, so I must remind everyone that Roberts started out by warning, repeatedly, that the election would be rigged against Trump.

    When Comey reopened the Clinton investigation, Roberts then said that the election would be rigged for Trump. Now, Roberts is saying that the deep state forgot to rig anything at all since they were so mesmerized by their own propaganda that Clinton would win.

    If they're going to rig, they'll rig, and the propaganda is always meant for us doofuses, not themselves. To say that they neglected to rig the election because they believed their own bullshit makes no sense.

    I'm a long-time admirer of Paul Craig Roberts, but I don't think his incoherent analysis in this instance is very useful.

    “I’m a long-time admirer of Paul Craig Roberts, but I don’t think his incoherent analysis in this instance is very useful.”

    Since Reagan I knew that PCR had tendency in believing in any BS including his own. He was probably the only one among Reagan voodoo economists who actually believed in it. The smarter among them knew it was just PR BS directed at American people to justify the destruction of the well paid jobs and priming America and the world for the new era of neoliberalism.

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  96. @utu
    Mr. Linh Dinh, you are onto something but we still do not know what is the plan.

    I keep wondering about the connection between Brexit and Trump. What does the anglo-american (+zio) establishment has in store for us this time?

    The change often comes form London but thet it is up to the American 800 lb gorilla to impose the change on the whole world. In late 1970s it was Thatcher who was the harbinger of Reagan. The whole idea of shaking up the economy and remaking it into a neoliberal model came from the City. In the US it was accomplished very simply by Volcker (who was forced on Carter) by jacking up interest rates under the pretense of fighting with inflation. For bankers inflation means just high wages. They drove up unemployment and busted unions and then started fighting with the unemployment they first created by reducing taxes for the rich and creating service jobs and non-union production jobs in the South. Then came NAFTA under Bush and Clinton and we know the rest of the story.

    Now many years later we know what the Deep Sate had in store for us when they got us Thatcher and Reagan. What is their plan by giving us Brexit and Trump? Are they connected?

    For bankers inflation means just high wages.

    Yeah and for workers it means raises that don’t keep up with inflation. It means asset prices going through the roof keeping average people from affording them. It also means increasing income and payroll taxes which push them into higher tax brackets.

    Inflation WAS a big deal back then for working people. Working people had to waste a lot of their time worrying about how to keep their money. An engineer friend of mine was in a horse racing syndicate because the tax laws were so convoluted that he got a write off of 5 times his “investment”. Not bad when the tax rate for the average stiff is 40% federal. Between state and federal taxes and no deductions as an engineer with two years experience, when I got a raise, I got to keep about 40% of it. Imagine if my pay was doubled as a senior engineer, I probably would get to keep 25% back then.

    Where do you think all that get rich quick in real estate garbage started? Robert Allen was the first guy. Buy a house by offering no money just a higher price than the market but all of it on paper (assume the first and the seller holds the second) and wait for inflation to make the seller look dumb.

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    Yes, Volcker helped people to afford houses by eliminating their jobs. Your alma mater must be proud of you.
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    http://therightstuff.biz/content/images/2016/11/sf-antitrump-protest.jpg

    Homos have been so sacralized that every side wants to be associated with them, and this goes for Trump too. (Same with sacral glow of Jews and Negroes)

    It used to be “With God on Our Side.”

    Now, it’s “With Homos on Our Side.”

    Your side is made holier with association with homos, Jews, or Negroes.

    Jomogro Faith.

    When homos make their case, they feel no need to wave the Mex flag.
    But when Mexicans make their case, they feel a need to wave the homo flag.

    The new religion.

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    That said, Muslims go first in the current SJW batting order of "the oppressed", and Trump offers them no peace pipe. It's a long game, breaking up the leftist tribal coalition. Play along with the LGBTQ for now, focus on the primary danger. One hill at a time.
  98. @Linh Dinh
    I'm talking about hacking the voting machines. Again, 30 states used voting machines that could be hacked or preprogrammed. A voting machine is like a slot machine, eh. It does whatever the hell it wants to do.

    I’m talking about hacking the voting machines.

    Sure, I know, and if the machines were rigged of course such rigging couldn’t exceed the bounds of credibility and so we might assume they under-estimated and, again, the popular vote reported is skewed even more.

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    "of course such rigging couldn’t exceed the bounds of credibillty" - Comey's memo on Oct. 28 was the signal that the election cannot be rigged and Trump will win. It was the signal to media to start rectifying their narrative form fake inflated pro Hillary polls. Hillary advantage started coming down and some polls in the following week showed Trump winning. Pro Hillary people and some media could blame it on Comey effect while actually there was no effect. The only effect was them reporting more truthful polls.
  99. I read somewhere that the author of this article had taught at a german university, which if correct then explains the madness and incoherent BS represented therein, as german unversities being the epitome of leftist lunacy, even crazier than US schools of “Higher edumacation”

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz performer.

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  100. “They still would have preferred the empty pantsuit.”

    The pantsuit wasn’t empty.

    It seemed to be always partially filled by the leakage from her Depends.

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  101. This article gets many things right.

    But I don’t think the ‘establishment’ engineered Trump’s win. They don’t need to, when they can warp things after the election. And they get warped by whatever members of the deep state get to them first.

    Who is this deep state? The military? The financial elite? The Washington insiders? The candidates? In reality, these people have different goals. Any candidate would get warped by the ‘establishment’ after being elected. Clinton because she is already part of this elite, and Trump because he would have to rely on political insiders anyway – despite his swamp rhetoric.

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  102. @MarkinLA
    Obama’s relatively high LSAT score, 94th to 98th percentile

    I don't think whites get into Harvard Law School with LSAT percentiles that low, do they?

    You’re right, but at 94% to 98% he’s probably almost as bright as their typical student. There’s a difference between those such as Rice, Powell, and Obama, who got a boost from Affirmative Action, and mediocre or worse products of A.A, including the so far still existing A.A. for connected white guys.

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    I am not saying Obama was stupid only that he was mediocre and hardly the material one would expect to get into Harvard. USC, UCLA, or Nebraska yes, Harvard NO.

    although there is indication that he may have been elected based on mert.

    I disagree with this entirely since there is NO example I am aware of Obama's great intellectual legal scholarship as one would expect of the editor of the Harvard Law Review.

    One of my engineer friends who went to UCLA law school was working on legal articles with the professors in his second year of law school. He was smart (he had a MS from MIT in chemical engineering) but I don't recall ever hearing his name at the very highest levels of the legal profession since he graduated 25 years ago so I image he was just one of many intelligent students that impressed the professors at UCLA similar to the many other well regarded law schools around the country. Why aren't there similar stories about Obama?
  103. @Linh Dinh
    You obviously didn't read my article.

    I repeatedly predicted that Trump would win when no one else did.

    Don't comment on articles you haven't read, buddy. It makes you look pretty stupid.

    You predicted, so what? Your prediction was based on what you assume is “a deep state” allowing Trump to win. Like I said, that’s so you can claim nobody actually “won” anything or “lost” anything because it was all a “ploy”. Again, your horsehockey is underwhelming, and try as you might to get some attention, any attention, you arguments are no less invalid.

    If the “deep state” ushers in whomever they want, why have this time wasting “election” crapola at all? Oh, because they have to “fool” everybody or else the population might revolt? And what do you call what just happened?

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  104. @Anonymous
    Well, if you are 69 yrs old then you should know the country has been declining for a lot longer than Reagan. In fact the Reagan years reversed some of the damage.

    Slightly slowed down but in no way reversed.

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  105. This article has to be a bad misreading of Trump.

    Just two points show the problem:

    1) The Establishment had such a hysterical fear of a Trump victory that it couldn’t be faked. Every financial /propaganda resource they had was directed at stopping him, even at the cost of the MSM losing all credibility.

    2) Trump is an experienced high-rise developer from New York so he knows better than anyone what happened to Building 7 plus the other two towers on 9/11. The point is, that there’s no daylight between Trump and the fake official account – so he’s looking to deal with the Neo-cons rather than fight them.

    Trump seems quite at home in this ethics-free environment, and is ready to flip-flop tactically to gain an advantage (e.g. abortion, foreign intervention etc.) without having any real beliefs one way or the other. For sure he’s no doctrinaire Lenin or Hitler into totalitarian “..isms” , “enemies of the people” etc.

    In fact he looks more like Putin. Putin could have investigated the “Loans for Shares” looting of Russia under Yeltsin (organized by Russian/Jewish oligarchs), but he let them keep their gains in return for non-interference with his political power. When they broke the rule, there was a swift reaction with their leader (Khodorkovsky) getting a long prison sentence (tax fraud) with others being publicly humiliated.

    I’ve followed Trump for years (best summary “Art of the Deal”) and he’s an active “hands on” fighter, alliance builder, detail checker, always estimating the odds before he engages. The proof is the way he beat Clinton, reaching out to every group (no Deplorables in his world) and putting in the effort , while she left it to the Establishment and the MSM to organize her coronation.

    So Trump comes across as a “Gang Boss” for want of a better description, with the emphasis on personal power and valuing loyalty to himself.

    If this is right, then there are some interesting possibilities:

    9/11 – No investigation of anything if the Neo-cons/Zionists support him.

    Wall St. – The QE game is finished with the FED forced to direct money towards infrastructure rather than their friends. Supports his base.

    M.E. Wars – Also finished. Israel remains Americas best friend but “America First” = spending in the US. Still support Israel in the UN with an automatic veto.

    Immigration – He recognizes the demographic challenge to his voter base, so it’s more than likely that he’ll almost completely shut down illegal AND legal immigration.

    Outsourcing – Returning manufacturing to the US will be a big winner with his base, regardless of a Wall St. crash and the 0,1% losing $ billions in profits, so he’ll do it.

    End result that Trump could be as popular in the US as Putin is in Russia.

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  106. @Linh Dinh
    Hi utu,

    Brexit and the Trump win are merely symbolic victories for the masses. With its own currency, England was never really a part of the European Union anyway, and since it's physically apart, it never had to worry about EU-styled open borders. Despite all that, England is the most multicultural of all European countries, with its traditional identity most diluted. Brexit, then, was allowed as a symbolic backlash, same as the Trump presidency.

    I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.


    Linh

    Mr. Dinh,

    As an island, they can more easily control illegal immigration, but doesn’t EU pressure them to allow mor legal immigration? And don’t they have castaways, stowaways, and visa overstayers? It’s only about 20 miles from Calais to Dover.

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    Hi Hibernian,

    The UK didn't need to be pressured. They've allowed extremely high immigration for decades.


    Linh
    , @Linh Dinh

    It’s only about 20 miles from Calais to Dover.
     
    That 20 miles undersea is preventing this from showing up in London:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek1ENuEyWHE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUEs0Mzaa6E

    , @Linh Dinh
    Hi Hibernian,

    I know, personally, people who have walked into Europe, crossing several borders. You can't walk into England.

    Yes, there are Eastern Europeans all over England. I've seen these Poles and others. (I spent 9 months in England in 2005-2006, and have returned three times since.) Polish immigrants did not cause the Brexit reaction. It's the burgeoning Muslim population that began with the Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

    Seeing what's happening in Germany caused Brexit.


    Linh

  107. We here in Ft. Meade and Langley have installed a special Schadenfreude Room, running a continuous loop of the Hillary Victory Party……the fags crying on each other’s shoulders, the single fat chicks in i’m-with-her t-shirts melting down in disbelief, the old moonbats stunned into silence for the first time in 30 years, the goateed cucks in shock with their hands over their faces crying like little girls. Anyone showing the slightest sign of depression here is immediately consigned to the SF room. They exit in a state of extreme bliss….many even revealing they experienced an orgasmic like ecstacy watching the moronic leftie frauds dissolve into puddles of tears. Your humble poster visits the SF room at least twice a day…..it’s even better than raw dirty sex.

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  108. @Linh Dinh
    Several commenters have brought up Craig Roberts' analysis as a rebuttal to mine, so I must remind everyone that Roberts started out by warning, repeatedly, that the election would be rigged against Trump.

    When Comey reopened the Clinton investigation, Roberts then said that the election would be rigged for Trump. Now, Roberts is saying that the deep state forgot to rig anything at all since they were so mesmerized by their own propaganda that Clinton would win.

    If they're going to rig, they'll rig, and the propaganda is always meant for us doofuses, not themselves. To say that they neglected to rig the election because they believed their own bullshit makes no sense.

    I'm a long-time admirer of Paul Craig Roberts, but I don't think his incoherent analysis in this instance is very useful.

    Your response is as nonsensical as your article. You clearly are not respectful of logic or even semantics. But, as I said, or implied, earlier, you are not to blame. Ron Unz is an excessively liberal editor, and that is all. Keep writing your chronicles, and you will be fine. Just do not try political analysis. It is not your field.

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  109. @Linh Dinh
    Hi utu,

    Brexit and the Trump win are merely symbolic victories for the masses. With its own currency, England was never really a part of the European Union anyway, and since it's physically apart, it never had to worry about EU-styled open borders. Despite all that, England is the most multicultural of all European countries, with its traditional identity most diluted. Brexit, then, was allowed as a symbolic backlash, same as the Trump presidency.

    I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.


    Linh

    “I’d love to hear your thoughts on this.” You asked for it.

    In August 2015 when the marching columns of young male muslims in Europe became the daily occurrence in news I began to wonder how did Trump know in on June 15, 2015 to focus his first speech on the subject of illegal immigration and on building of the wall. Only then I began to take Trump seriously. His insight was not a coincidence. He or his handlers must have had the info that the refugee crisis was about to unfold soon. It was not Ann Coulter or Steve Sailer as they like to think here at Unz, who were responsible for the most important pillar of Trump’s platform. It was just an opportunistic choice promulgated by the impending invasion on Europe. And then it stuck.

    The refugee invasion was directed against Germany, not a very reliable ally of America and Israel. The Germany’s proclivity for flirtation with Russia was always suspect. Already Bismarck was saying that the secret behind his successful policy (of unification of Germany) was a good pact with Russia. Any pacts with Russia after 2014 Ukraine were verboten.

    But what really was to be accomplished by the waves of refugees? The instigators were hoping that Europe (Germany) would get its act together and help to bring the no-fly zone to Syria for the final act of planned destruction of Syria. And because of Iranian involvement on the side of Assad the bombing of Syrian and Iranian troops would derail the Iran deal that Obama has just finalized.

    But things did not go as the planners hoped for. Angela Merkel in a masterful aikido gambit embraced the refugees and thus diffused the tension obviously at high cost to Germany and German people and by doing so she gave Putin few more weeks to move into Syria to kill any chance for the American no-fly zone. All in the same month of September 2015.

    Who were the people behind Trump in June 2015? Certainly they were people with connections to CIA and Mossad.

    Who was to benefit from the refugee invasion on Europe in 2015? Those who wanted to finish Syria off and kill Obama’s deal with Iran.

    Who will benefit the most (and already does) form America’s attempt to build the wall? Israel. It legitimizes everything what Israel does.

    Is the raise of new European right resulting from the backlash to the muslim invasion a concern for the instigator of the invasion? No, as long as the traditional anti-Semitism associated with old European right is replaced with islamophobia and admiration for Israel who shows the way how to deal with muslims and Arabs.. This shift has already occurred years ago. Marine Le Pen unlike her father has very good relations with Zionists. The same goes for British right. And in extreme case it suffices to read Breivik manifesto to see the face of the New Right. And for the mild American version of it one can see hints of this realignment in comments at iSteve.

    As Trump campaign was unfolding I kept wondering whether he could have any chance to win. Were his backers really serious in having him? A guy of very limited intellect and knowledge with serious personality flaws? Really? Several months I concluded that if Trump is permitted to win it may mean only one thing: the Deep State, whatever it is, have something really serious in store for us. Is it going to be great depression, a war…?

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    I was under the impression that this is a kind of discussion forum, and not a venue for the display of two-bit political novels.

    And regarding your snotty comment : "A guy of very limited intellect" : Trump.

    You wouldn't know an "Intellect" if it slapped you upside the head.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plua years and pro jazz artist.
    , @Linh Dinh
    Hi utu,

    Thank you for your thought-provoking comment. The greatest depression is certainly coming, and a desperate series of wars to prevent this total collapse is most likely. Trump will preside over this mess.


    Linh
  110. @Hibernian
    You're right, but at 94% to 98% he's probably almost as bright as their typical student. There's a difference between those such as Rice, Powell, and Obama, who got a boost from Affirmative Action, and mediocre or worse products of A.A, including the so far still existing A.A. for connected white guys.

    I am not saying Obama was stupid only that he was mediocre and hardly the material one would expect to get into Harvard. USC, UCLA, or Nebraska yes, Harvard NO.

    although there is indication that he may have been elected based on mert.

    I disagree with this entirely since there is NO example I am aware of Obama’s great intellectual legal scholarship as one would expect of the editor of the Harvard Law Review.

    One of my engineer friends who went to UCLA law school was working on legal articles with the professors in his second year of law school. He was smart (he had a MS from MIT in chemical engineering) but I don’t recall ever hearing his name at the very highest levels of the legal profession since he graduated 25 years ago so I image he was just one of many intelligent students that impressed the professors at UCLA similar to the many other well regarded law schools around the country. Why aren’t there similar stories about Obama?

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  111. The weakness in Mr. Dinh’s analysis is that he assumes the Deep State is monolithic, acts in details while thinking in the very long term, and is infallible. It doesn’t occur to him that, as with all groups of human beings and collective efforts, particularly those out of the spotlight, there may be intense internal disagreements, rogue factions, backstabbing, erroneous assumptions, failed strategies, incompetent executions and just plain bad luck.

    Yes, Trump is a member of the elite, but that doesn’t mean he cant quite sincerely simply change his mind on the elite consensus and decide to go anti-globalist, and take a good number of other anti-globalists in the elite along with him. It’s also possible that the Deep State can choose Hillary Clinton to execute its will, rig primaries and debates and arrange voter fraud, and still not quite do it well enough to thwart a genuine popular surge in voting for an unexpected candidate.

    True, there may well be highly placed figures, like George Soros, who would like to move Trump about like a chess price, but it’s also possible that Trump may be, or aspire to be, not a piece but a player, whose aim is to lead the Deep State in a new and different direction. After all, given the wretched record of the past several decades and the looming crises in Muslim immigration into Europe, climate change, automation and artificial intelligence, some among the Deep State may well want to re-think its policies. If so, Trump could well be part of it and the revolutionary change he appears to be.

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  112. @Hibernian
    Mr. Dinh,

    As an island, they can more easily control illegal immigration, but doesn't EU pressure them to allow mor legal immigration? And don't they have castaways, stowaways, and visa overstayers? It's only about 20 miles from Calais to Dover.

    Hi Hibernian,

    The UK didn’t need to be pressured. They’ve allowed extremely high immigration for decades.

    Linh

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  113. @Miro23
    This article has to be a bad misreading of Trump.

    Just two points show the problem:

    1) The Establishment had such a hysterical fear of a Trump victory that it couldn't be faked. Every financial /propaganda resource they had was directed at stopping him, even at the cost of the MSM losing all credibility.

    2) Trump is an experienced high-rise developer from New York so he knows better than anyone what happened to Building 7 plus the other two towers on 9/11. The point is, that there's no daylight between Trump and the fake official account - so he's looking to deal with the Neo-cons rather than fight them.

    Trump seems quite at home in this ethics-free environment, and is ready to flip-flop tactically to gain an advantage (e.g. abortion, foreign intervention etc.) without having any real beliefs one way or the other. For sure he's no doctrinaire Lenin or Hitler into totalitarian "..isms" , "enemies of the people" etc.

    In fact he looks more like Putin. Putin could have investigated the "Loans for Shares" looting of Russia under Yeltsin (organized by Russian/Jewish oligarchs), but he let them keep their gains in return for non-interference with his political power. When they broke the rule, there was a swift reaction with their leader (Khodorkovsky) getting a long prison sentence (tax fraud) with others being publicly humiliated.

    I've followed Trump for years (best summary "Art of the Deal") and he's an active "hands on" fighter, alliance builder, detail checker, always estimating the odds before he engages. The proof is the way he beat Clinton, reaching out to every group (no Deplorables in his world) and putting in the effort , while she left it to the Establishment and the MSM to organize her coronation.

    So Trump comes across as a "Gang Boss" for want of a better description, with the emphasis on personal power and valuing loyalty to himself.

    If this is right, then there are some interesting possibilities:

    9/11 - No investigation of anything if the Neo-cons/Zionists support him.

    Wall St. - The QE game is finished with the FED forced to direct money towards infrastructure rather than their friends. Supports his base.

    M.E. Wars - Also finished. Israel remains Americas best friend but "America First" = spending in the US. Still support Israel in the UN with an automatic veto.

    Immigration - He recognizes the demographic challenge to his voter base, so it's more than likely that he'll almost completely shut down illegal AND legal immigration.

    Outsourcing - Returning manufacturing to the US will be a big winner with his base, regardless of a Wall St. crash and the 0,1% losing $ billions in profits, so he'll do it.

    End result that Trump could be as popular in the US as Putin is in Russia.

    Do read my “Trump and 9/11.

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    Thanks for the link.

    The Trump/9-11 article says, "Craving to be president, Trump must kowtow to the Jewish neo-cons and Israel."

    The suggestion is, that NOW THAT HE IS PRESIDENT, Jewish neo-cons and Israel have to kowtow to him. That's how he works.

    Their preferred choice was Clinton but Trump is still OK if he allows them to keep their power in the US and gives general support to Israel, which seems to be the deal on offer, in return for their support. The TEOWAKI (The End OF the World As we Know It) risk is that the crazies among them (USS Liberty and 9/11) will JFK him, in which case all bets are off.

  114. @MarkinLA
    For bankers inflation means just high wages.

    Yeah and for workers it means raises that don't keep up with inflation. It means asset prices going through the roof keeping average people from affording them. It also means increasing income and payroll taxes which push them into higher tax brackets.

    Inflation WAS a big deal back then for working people. Working people had to waste a lot of their time worrying about how to keep their money. An engineer friend of mine was in a horse racing syndicate because the tax laws were so convoluted that he got a write off of 5 times his "investment". Not bad when the tax rate for the average stiff is 40% federal. Between state and federal taxes and no deductions as an engineer with two years experience, when I got a raise, I got to keep about 40% of it. Imagine if my pay was doubled as a senior engineer, I probably would get to keep 25% back then.

    Where do you think all that get rich quick in real estate garbage started? Robert Allen was the first guy. Buy a house by offering no money just a higher price than the market but all of it on paper (assume the first and the seller holds the second) and wait for inflation to make the seller look dumb.

    Yes, Volcker helped people to afford houses by eliminating their jobs. Your alma mater must be proud of you.

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    Volcker didn't kill their jobs. The free trade deals and automation did. I was at a company working on the first painting robots for the auto assembly lines. A lot of people lost a lot of good paying but unhealthy jobs when those robots went in. FYI there was also a mini-NAFTA in place in the form of the maquiladoras. Reagan's NAFTA just put them on steroids.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquiladora
  115. @macilrae

    I’m talking about hacking the voting machines.
     
    Sure, I know, and if the machines were rigged of course such rigging couldn't exceed the bounds of credibility and so we might assume they under-estimated and, again, the popular vote reported is skewed even more.

    “of course such rigging couldn’t exceed the bounds of credibillty” – Comey’s memo on Oct. 28 was the signal that the election cannot be rigged and Trump will win. It was the signal to media to start rectifying their narrative form fake inflated pro Hillary polls. Hillary advantage started coming down and some polls in the following week showed Trump winning. Pro Hillary people and some media could blame it on Comey effect while actually there was no effect. The only effect was them reporting more truthful polls.

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  116. @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm pretty skeptical that there was any sort of Deep State plot to put Trump into the White House. Basically, he was a loose cannon and the Elite Establishment, including nearly all the Neocons, did absolutely everything they could to defeat him.

    However, since there's now talk that he may pick James Woolsey and John Bolton as two of his top national security/foreign policy appointments, the outcome amounts to the same thing---they're two of the most extreme and craziest Neocons. Since Trump was an empty vessel on those sorts of issues, he would end up captured by the close allies of the people who would have been running the same Hillary Clinton portfolios.

    People forget, but "W" was originally elected as the *anti-Neocon* candidate, opposed in the 2000 Republican primaries by nearly all the Neocons (who favored McCain), promising a "humble" foreign policy, and not appointing a single Neocon to any Cabinet-level position. But by the end of the year, he'd been totally captured by the Neocons.

    Unfortunately, it wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happened to Trump...

    Well, as a contrary follow-up to my previous comment, the NYT this morning quoted Trump as saying he would be cutting off support for the Islamicist rebels in Syria, and apparently working with Russia, Syria, and Iran in the region in their efforts against ISIS.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/world/middleeast/donald-trump-syria.html

    This is *extremely* good news to me, and exactly the sort of reason I supported Trump’s election.

    I have absolutely no idea whether the “Deep State” is secretly behind this non-crazy policy, but if so, then three cheers for them!

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    It's good, but I don't think this is as simple as Trump "working with Russia, Syria, and Iran". Obama admin tried to start working with Russia a couple of months ago, and the next thing happening was the US military bombing "by mistake" SAA position, killing 62 Syrian soldiers, followed by a seemingly synchronized Isis attack. The most obvious explanation: a renegade faction inside the US military establishment. Sabotage. Trump winning the election does not, by itself, fix this problem. In fact, it might even exacerbate it...
    , @Chuck Orloski
    "I have absolutely no idea whether the "Deep State" is secretly behind this non-crazy policy..."

    Respectfully, Ron, anymore I have little tolerance for euphemisms like, for example, "The Deep State" and "The Hidden Hand." Use of such term facilitates one's "ducking" what they want to say.

    Soon after Khomeini took power in Iran, he did not hesitate to draw attention to his Islamic revolution's # 1 enemy, "The Great Satan." For me the Ayatollah "called it as he saw it," and avoided merely pointing a finger at "The filthy Jew financed United States."

    Of course, history shows how revolutions often undergo a thermidorean reaction. Has Iran's Islamic Revolution reached a point where their rulers are mellowing and are willing to deal with president-elect Donald Trump who's main oligarch supporter, Sheldon Adelson, has recommended a devastating nuclear attack on Iran?

    Such Islamic revolution 'thermidor" is conceivable especially since (based upon the N.Y.T. article) it appears Trump and Putin are prepped to tag-team ISIS, and perhaps the Iran & Syria duo were secretly issued an "offer they can not refuse."

    As you know, except for occasional outcries about Netanyahu's Palestinian excesses, The New York Times editorial page is very pro-Israel. One of their top journalists, Judith Miller, became cheerleader for the "Shock & Awe" barbarism. Remember the day W. Bush had a press conference in "liberated" Baghdad and an Iraqi tossed a shoe at him? The angry fellow did not say, "f&*uck the Deep State."

    I am impressed you did not hesitate to proclaim your support for Donald Trump's election. Ideally, come the next 4-years, you do not want to toss a NIKE shoe at him.

    Thank you.
    , @Sam J.
    "...Trump as saying he would be cutting off support for the Islamicist rebels in Syria..."

    If true this is info on the Orgasmatron level. Jump for joy. Snoopy dance.

    I had heard that Trump was talking about Bolton for Sec. of State and almost died but I think it may be that there's a big fight going on with the Neo-cons trying to slip people in and some others like Sessions trying to correct things.

    My hope is no Neo-cons at any level of government at all.
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    @Brás Cubas
    Thank you, sir, for a bellyful of laughs. The logical flaws and nonsequiturs alone make for a comic bonanza. Ron Unz, instead of honoring this idiocy with his unaccountably polite remarks, should start worrying about the reputation of his site if he does not exercise some kind of supervision on what he publishes which would not limit itself to potential number of comments. As for the subject of the so-called Trump ploy, Paul Craig Roberts has already provided a perfectly sensible -- and in my view definitive -- analysis.

    Unless you can support your assertions, you shouldn’t be wasting people’s time with a comment. Those who have nothing to add, but want to pee on one or the other side of the hydrant, can use the AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC button.

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  118. @Ron Unz
    Well, as a contrary follow-up to my previous comment, the NYT this morning quoted Trump as saying he would be cutting off support for the Islamicist rebels in Syria, and apparently working with Russia, Syria, and Iran in the region in their efforts against ISIS.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/world/middleeast/donald-trump-syria.html

    This is *extremely* good news to me, and exactly the sort of reason I supported Trump's election.

    I have absolutely no idea whether the "Deep State" is secretly behind this non-crazy policy, but if so, then three cheers for them!

    It’s good, but I don’t think this is as simple as Trump “working with Russia, Syria, and Iran”. Obama admin tried to start working with Russia a couple of months ago, and the next thing happening was the US military bombing “by mistake” SAA position, killing 62 Syrian soldiers, followed by a seemingly synchronized Isis attack. The most obvious explanation: a renegade faction inside the US military establishment. Sabotage. Trump winning the election does not, by itself, fix this problem. In fact, it might even exacerbate it…

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    • Replies: @OutWest
    Point taken. The better approach would be to just pack up (even if it costs more to ship a tank than to leave it for further troublemaking) and come home. I’m open to correction if some positive –any positive- can be identified in regard to our Mideast expeditionary fiasco.
  119. @Linh Dinh
    Do read my "Trump and 9/11."

    Thanks for the link.

    The Trump/9-11 article says, “Craving to be president, Trump must kowtow to the Jewish neo-cons and Israel.”

    The suggestion is, that NOW THAT HE IS PRESIDENT, Jewish neo-cons and Israel have to kowtow to him. That’s how he works.

    Their preferred choice was Clinton but Trump is still OK if he allows them to keep their power in the US and gives general support to Israel, which seems to be the deal on offer, in return for their support. The TEOWAKI (The End OF the World As we Know It) risk is that the crazies among them (USS Liberty and 9/11) will JFK him, in which case all bets are off.

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-germany-nato-idUSKBN1352SD

    Germans cannot even defend their own borders, but they preach to Trump about NATO and security.

    Are Russians pouring into Germany?

    I think it’s the Africans and Muslims.. and it has something to do with the mess that US made of MENA.

    Trump wants to end wars. Germans ought to be grateful.

    If there’s any justice in this world, the neocons and Lib globos who messed up MENA should face something like War Crimes Tribunal and get the Tojo-Goering treatment.

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    If there’s any justice in this world, the neocons and Lib globos who messed up MENA should face something like War Crimes Tribunal and get the Tojo-Goering treatment.
     
    but instead they're suggested to fill slots in Trump's administration.

    Michael Ledeen -- star of not-a-Hollywood-production The War Party,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4

    Michael Ledeen at Westminster Institute, a coven for (mostly Catholic) ex-foreign service employees located in McLean, VA.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUhLojfyZkU

    Westminster has hosted Jim Woolsey -- suggested for Trump's team;
    Michael Pregent, who reflects Westminster's orgasmic hatred for Iran;
    Ilan Berman -- ditto
    John Poindexter
    Walid Phares

    ---

    Newt Gingrich was one of Trump's campaign surrogates and will likely take a key position in a Trump administration.

    You remember Newt -- the guy that Sheldon Adelson invested in to win the presidency? That Newt.
    You remember Adelson -- the guy who said the Pres should drop a nuke in the Iranian desert -- and his audience at Brandeis applauded??

    Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are and what you stand for.

    ---

    I half-way suspect that much of the blather about Russia was a feint -- or at least, that Nuland-Kagan was to be marginalized in favor of going for the target that for decades has been Viagra for Netanyahu, Israelis, Michael Ledeen, and gangstas like the ones that Westminster Institute hosts: Iran. Trump was hired to take out Iran.

    If Trump proposes to curtail USA hegemonic ambitions in ME, why is he hanging out with folks like Ledeen, Gingrich, and other members of Foundation for Defense of Democracy and clients of Sheldon Adelson?

    ---

    Some who are aware of some of the history of zionism, especially in USA in 19-teens to 1940s, know that there was a civil war among Jews -- German Jews in USA were largely anti-zionist; East European Jews were ardently zionist.
    The battle between Hillary Clinton, client of Haim Saban, and Donald Trump, client of Adelson, is similar.

    The Jewish civil war in the 19-teens concluded with "a dual victory for zionists at Versailles: Jews acquired a homeland in Palestine and guarantee of minority rights in European states (esp. Germany)."

    Flush with that victory, Jews stomped all over Germany and riled up Poles, who sought to kick Jews out of Poland.

    If the pattern holds, i.e. that zionists will achieve a victory no matter who wins/loses, what should we be prepared to expect from the remains of the Clinton zionists -- who promised to "obliterate Iran" and, later, to take the US-Israel relationship "to the next level," and the Trump zionists, who promise to make Jerusalem the capital of Israel?

    What should we take from the increasingly cozy relationships among Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia?

    One of HRC's most important attributes is / was her ability to form coalitions to carry out dastardly deeds. Iran has always been in the cross hairs, but HRC plinked off targets in the middle ground. Will Trump complete the objective? Will he use the old neocon network (see Ledeen, above) in addition to hanger-on Clintonistas (you don't expect Dennis Ross to crawl into the woodwork, do you?)

    There is no fresh talent to summon to make foreign policy for the USA -- the zionists who control US universities have seen to that.

    ---

    Short version: Linh Dinh is right.

  121. @Markrenton
    I wouldn't believe this line of thinking - except for the fact that today news of Trump's team is leaking out. His team is made of political insiders, bankers, lobbyists etc.

    The swamp is not being drained. It's being flooded again.

    Is it credible? Or just speculation and fearmongering?

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  122. @woodNfish
    Nice try Linh, but I'm not buying it. Trump is already putting his program together and its key points were published yesterday. And in regards to the mentally deranged pervs out there, Trump paraded around on stage at one of his rallies carrying a "LGBT's for Trump" banner over his head and the crowd cheered him on. Your fag friends need to stop listening to the lying LSM.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-10/trump-reveals-policy-goals-building-wall-end-war-coal-repeal-obamacare-dismantle-dod
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  123. The “elite” who run our media are faced with two sometimes competing objectives: making money and running the zionist propaganda machine to brainwash everyone.

    Compare Trump to the rock band Pink Floyd. Superstars, top earners (Dark Side of the Moon was the best selling album of all time for many years) beloved by the record companies, etc. etc.

    Until the head genius, Roger Waters said F-it, i don’t need your money and started devoting his huge talent to speaking out about the ongoing genocide in Palestine. Overnight, his royalty payments dropped to zero.

    They loved him as long as he was profitable for them, but not once he started calling their kids ugly. It’s amazing he’s still breathing.

    Point is, it’s WAY too early to start talking about Trump as agent of the deep state. He’s clearly a political outsider who TERRIFIES the zionists. “He’s the new Hitlah”, they screamed, in unison, at 132 dB. They spent two years trying to take him down and all they got was a tape of him using a dirty word and some bimbos who scattered like flies over the threat of being sued.

    That ain’t much to warrant “agent of the deep state” charges.

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    • Replies: @utu
    Good analogy with Pink Floyd. But it is more subtle than being an agent or not. We do not know what designs THEY have for Trump and Trump does not know either. We do not know who THEY are and most likely he does not know it. Which faction of the Deep State?

    The most important question is to figure out what possibly the Deep State can expect from Trump presidency that they could not get easily form Hillary?

    If for the sake of argument we assume that 9/11 was false flag was perpetrated by the Deep State one could argue that Al Gore administration would be much less conducive for that operation than W's administration that was fully studded with all the neocons you could find in US, Canada and Australia.
  124. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @MarkinLA
    Who in the media besides the Alt-Right was shilling for Trump? The MSM took every opportunity to take a shot at him. They waited for hours at a Gloria Allred press conference a few days before the election waiting for an eventual no-show Trump accuser. This is just one example.

    Alex Jones, controlled opposition, shilled for him. So did wikileaks.

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  125. @Ron Unz
    Well, as a contrary follow-up to my previous comment, the NYT this morning quoted Trump as saying he would be cutting off support for the Islamicist rebels in Syria, and apparently working with Russia, Syria, and Iran in the region in their efforts against ISIS.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/world/middleeast/donald-trump-syria.html

    This is *extremely* good news to me, and exactly the sort of reason I supported Trump's election.

    I have absolutely no idea whether the "Deep State" is secretly behind this non-crazy policy, but if so, then three cheers for them!

    “I have absolutely no idea whether the “Deep State” is secretly behind this non-crazy policy…”

    Respectfully, Ron, anymore I have little tolerance for euphemisms like, for example, “The Deep State” and “The Hidden Hand.” Use of such term facilitates one’s “ducking” what they want to say.

    Soon after Khomeini took power in Iran, he did not hesitate to draw attention to his Islamic revolution’s # 1 enemy, “The Great Satan.” For me the Ayatollah “called it as he saw it,” and avoided merely pointing a finger at “The filthy Jew financed United States.”

    Of course, history shows how revolutions often undergo a thermidorean reaction. Has Iran’s Islamic Revolution reached a point where their rulers are mellowing and are willing to deal with president-elect Donald Trump who’s main oligarch supporter, Sheldon Adelson, has recommended a devastating nuclear attack on Iran?

    Such Islamic revolution ‘thermidor” is conceivable especially since (based upon the N.Y.T. article) it appears Trump and Putin are prepped to tag-team ISIS, and perhaps the Iran & Syria duo were secretly issued an “offer they can not refuse.”

    As you know, except for occasional outcries about Netanyahu’s Palestinian excesses, The New York Times editorial page is very pro-Israel. One of their top journalists, Judith Miller, became cheerleader for the “Shock & Awe” barbarism. Remember the day W. Bush had a press conference in “liberated” Baghdad and an Iraqi tossed a shoe at him? The angry fellow did not say, “f&*uck the Deep State.”

    I am impressed you did not hesitate to proclaim your support for Donald Trump’s election. Ideally, come the next 4-years, you do not want to toss a NIKE shoe at him.

    Thank you.

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  126. @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm pretty skeptical that there was any sort of Deep State plot to put Trump into the White House. Basically, he was a loose cannon and the Elite Establishment, including nearly all the Neocons, did absolutely everything they could to defeat him.

    However, since there's now talk that he may pick James Woolsey and John Bolton as two of his top national security/foreign policy appointments, the outcome amounts to the same thing---they're two of the most extreme and craziest Neocons. Since Trump was an empty vessel on those sorts of issues, he would end up captured by the close allies of the people who would have been running the same Hillary Clinton portfolios.

    People forget, but "W" was originally elected as the *anti-Neocon* candidate, opposed in the 2000 Republican primaries by nearly all the Neocons (who favored McCain), promising a "humble" foreign policy, and not appointing a single Neocon to any Cabinet-level position. But by the end of the year, he'd been totally captured by the Neocons.

    Unfortunately, it wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happened to Trump...

    Richard Perle found “W” to be empty vessel on foreign affairs and liked this fact.

    Prince Bandar on request from Poppy Bush did some tutoring of “W” and discussed with him how to circumvent the opposition (perceived by “W”) from the people (presumably neocons) who did not like his father. Bandar planted a fantastic idea in “W” mind that he could outsmart the neocons by pretending that he was on their side.

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  127. @Anon
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-germany-nato-idUSKBN1352SD

    Germans cannot even defend their own borders, but they preach to Trump about NATO and security.

    Are Russians pouring into Germany?

    I think it's the Africans and Muslims.. and it has something to do with the mess that US made of MENA.

    Trump wants to end wars. Germans ought to be grateful.

    If there's any justice in this world, the neocons and Lib globos who messed up MENA should face something like War Crimes Tribunal and get the Tojo-Goering treatment.

    If there’s any justice in this world, the neocons and Lib globos who messed up MENA should face something like War Crimes Tribunal and get the Tojo-Goering treatment.

    but instead they’re suggested to fill slots in Trump’s administration.

    Michael Ledeen — star of not-a-Hollywood-production The War Party,

    Michael Ledeen at Westminster Institute, a coven for (mostly Catholic) ex-foreign service employees located in McLean, VA.

    Westminster has hosted Jim Woolsey — suggested for Trump’s team;
    Michael Pregent, who reflects Westminster’s orgasmic hatred for Iran;
    Ilan Berman — ditto
    John Poindexter
    Walid Phares

    Newt Gingrich was one of Trump’s campaign surrogates and will likely take a key position in a Trump administration.

    You remember Newt — the guy that Sheldon Adelson invested in to win the presidency? That Newt.
    You remember Adelson — the guy who said the Pres should drop a nuke in the Iranian desert — and his audience at Brandeis applauded??

    Tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are and what you stand for.

    I half-way suspect that much of the blather about Russia was a feint — or at least, that Nuland-Kagan was to be marginalized in favor of going for the target that for decades has been Viagra for Netanyahu, Israelis, Michael Ledeen, and gangstas like the ones that Westminster Institute hosts: Iran. Trump was hired to take out Iran.

    If Trump proposes to curtail USA hegemonic ambitions in ME, why is he hanging out with folks like Ledeen, Gingrich, and other members of Foundation for Defense of Democracy and clients of Sheldon Adelson?

    Some who are aware of some of the history of zionism, especially in USA in 19-teens to 1940s, know that there was a civil war among Jews — German Jews in USA were largely anti-zionist; East European Jews were ardently zionist.
    The battle between Hillary Clinton, client of Haim Saban, and Donald Trump, client of Adelson, is similar.

    The Jewish civil war in the 19-teens concluded with “a dual victory for zionists at Versailles: Jews acquired a homeland in Palestine and guarantee of minority rights in European states (esp. Germany).”

    Flush with that victory, Jews stomped all over Germany and riled up Poles, who sought to kick Jews out of Poland.

    If the pattern holds, i.e. that zionists will achieve a victory no matter who wins/loses, what should we be prepared to expect from the remains of the Clinton zionists — who promised to “obliterate Iran” and, later, to take the US-Israel relationship “to the next level,” and the Trump zionists, who promise to make Jerusalem the capital of Israel?

    What should we take from the increasingly cozy relationships among Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia?

    One of HRC’s most important attributes is / was her ability to form coalitions to carry out dastardly deeds. Iran has always been in the cross hairs, but HRC plinked off targets in the middle ground. Will Trump complete the objective? Will he use the old neocon network (see Ledeen, above) in addition to hanger-on Clintonistas (you don’t expect Dennis Ross to crawl into the woodwork, do you?)

    There is no fresh talent to summon to make foreign policy for the USA — the zionists who control US universities have seen to that.

    Short version: Linh Dinh is right.

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    • Replies: @utu
    "There is no fresh talent to summon to make foreign policy for the USA " - I think you are correct. The neocons is all what is there. But should we be surprised? Where do the think-tanks get their money from? The same goes for neo-liberal economists. There are no other kind than neo-liberal. Ask Michael Hudson.
  128. @Mao Cheng Ji
    It's good, but I don't think this is as simple as Trump "working with Russia, Syria, and Iran". Obama admin tried to start working with Russia a couple of months ago, and the next thing happening was the US military bombing "by mistake" SAA position, killing 62 Syrian soldiers, followed by a seemingly synchronized Isis attack. The most obvious explanation: a renegade faction inside the US military establishment. Sabotage. Trump winning the election does not, by itself, fix this problem. In fact, it might even exacerbate it...

    Point taken. The better approach would be to just pack up (even if it costs more to ship a tank than to leave it for further troublemaking) and come home. I’m open to correction if some positive –any positive- can be identified in regard to our Mideast expeditionary fiasco.

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  129. @DaveE
    The "elite" who run our media are faced with two sometimes competing objectives: making money and running the zionist propaganda machine to brainwash everyone.

    Compare Trump to the rock band Pink Floyd. Superstars, top earners (Dark Side of the Moon was the best selling album of all time for many years) beloved by the record companies, etc. etc.

    Until the head genius, Roger Waters said F-it, i don't need your money and started devoting his huge talent to speaking out about the ongoing genocide in Palestine. Overnight, his royalty payments dropped to zero.

    They loved him as long as he was profitable for them, but not once he started calling their kids ugly. It's amazing he's still breathing.

    Point is, it's WAY too early to start talking about Trump as agent of the deep state. He's clearly a political outsider who TERRIFIES the zionists. "He's the new Hitlah", they screamed, in unison, at 132 dB. They spent two years trying to take him down and all they got was a tape of him using a dirty word and some bimbos who scattered like flies over the threat of being sued.

    That ain't much to warrant "agent of the deep state" charges.

    Good analogy with Pink Floyd. But it is more subtle than being an agent or not. We do not know what designs THEY have for Trump and Trump does not know either. We do not know who THEY are and most likely he does not know it. Which faction of the Deep State?

    The most important question is to figure out what possibly the Deep State can expect from Trump presidency that they could not get easily form Hillary?

    If for the sake of argument we assume that 9/11 was false flag was perpetrated by the Deep State one could argue that Al Gore administration would be much less conducive for that operation than W’s administration that was fully studded with all the neocons you could find in US, Canada and Australia.

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    • Replies: @DaveE
    Well, that's a reasonable point. If Trump is clean, i.e. not "deep state" that doesn't mean he couldn't become "deep state" at any time. It's certainly possible.

    BUT, let's imagine a hypothetical Trump who somehow managed to "stay clean" or relatively clean, after working for years in that filthy sandbox. IMHO such a "clean" hypothetical Trump would look about like the real Trump we see today.

    Also possible and not inconsistent with the data. We shall see and fairly soon, I think.

    What we DO know is he ain't Killary, so we may have avoided war with Russia or whoever else the zios want taken out, at least before Valentine's Day.
  130. @SolontoCroesus

    If there’s any justice in this world, the neocons and Lib globos who messed up MENA should face something like War Crimes Tribunal and get the Tojo-Goering treatment.
     
    but instead they're suggested to fill slots in Trump's administration.

    Michael Ledeen -- star of not-a-Hollywood-production The War Party,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4

    Michael Ledeen at Westminster Institute, a coven for (mostly Catholic) ex-foreign service employees located in McLean, VA.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUhLojfyZkU

    Westminster has hosted Jim Woolsey -- suggested for Trump's team;
    Michael Pregent, who reflects Westminster's orgasmic hatred for Iran;
    Ilan Berman -- ditto
    John Poindexter
    Walid Phares

    ---

    Newt Gingrich was one of Trump's campaign surrogates and will likely take a key position in a Trump administration.

    You remember Newt -- the guy that Sheldon Adelson invested in to win the presidency? That Newt.
    You remember Adelson -- the guy who said the Pres should drop a nuke in the Iranian desert -- and his audience at Brandeis applauded??

    Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are and what you stand for.

    ---

    I half-way suspect that much of the blather about Russia was a feint -- or at least, that Nuland-Kagan was to be marginalized in favor of going for the target that for decades has been Viagra for Netanyahu, Israelis, Michael Ledeen, and gangstas like the ones that Westminster Institute hosts: Iran. Trump was hired to take out Iran.

    If Trump proposes to curtail USA hegemonic ambitions in ME, why is he hanging out with folks like Ledeen, Gingrich, and other members of Foundation for Defense of Democracy and clients of Sheldon Adelson?

    ---

    Some who are aware of some of the history of zionism, especially in USA in 19-teens to 1940s, know that there was a civil war among Jews -- German Jews in USA were largely anti-zionist; East European Jews were ardently zionist.
    The battle between Hillary Clinton, client of Haim Saban, and Donald Trump, client of Adelson, is similar.

    The Jewish civil war in the 19-teens concluded with "a dual victory for zionists at Versailles: Jews acquired a homeland in Palestine and guarantee of minority rights in European states (esp. Germany)."

    Flush with that victory, Jews stomped all over Germany and riled up Poles, who sought to kick Jews out of Poland.

    If the pattern holds, i.e. that zionists will achieve a victory no matter who wins/loses, what should we be prepared to expect from the remains of the Clinton zionists -- who promised to "obliterate Iran" and, later, to take the US-Israel relationship "to the next level," and the Trump zionists, who promise to make Jerusalem the capital of Israel?

    What should we take from the increasingly cozy relationships among Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia?

    One of HRC's most important attributes is / was her ability to form coalitions to carry out dastardly deeds. Iran has always been in the cross hairs, but HRC plinked off targets in the middle ground. Will Trump complete the objective? Will he use the old neocon network (see Ledeen, above) in addition to hanger-on Clintonistas (you don't expect Dennis Ross to crawl into the woodwork, do you?)

    There is no fresh talent to summon to make foreign policy for the USA -- the zionists who control US universities have seen to that.

    ---

    Short version: Linh Dinh is right.

    “There is no fresh talent to summon to make foreign policy for the USA ” – I think you are correct. The neocons is all what is there. But should we be surprised? Where do the think-tanks get their money from? The same goes for neo-liberal economists. There are no other kind than neo-liberal. Ask Michael Hudson.

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  131. I honestly think Hollywood would be interested in this. A little work on the details and you would have a sellable comedy script.

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  132. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @kevin
    The effects of 9/11 are still being felt today, as much the national security polices in place today are either a direct result of 9/11 or are allegedly designed to prevent another catastrophic tragedy of a similar magnitude. Likewise, Jewish zionists have been trying to shift the American people's condemnation of the 9/11 attacks away from the real terrorists who did 9/11 and the Jewish terrorist state of Israel which was the root cause of 9/11, because of its almost endless list of Zionist crimes, towards irrational hatred of people of the Islamic faith in general. Unfortunately, this zionist instigation of Islamohysteria has created a segment of people in America who are supportive of the military occupation of nations such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and Syria (with Iran as a likely future target). These military occupations only benefit the criminal state Israel

    Do Zionists really need to stoke anyone’s “irrational” hatred of the Islamic faith ??
    Seems Muslims can do a bang up job of that themselves . Witness the Indonesian occupation of Papua since 1963 to the present day with a murder rate to 500,000 Papuans .We can go to the Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara going on since the 80s with a death toll around 40,000 .The Turkish occupation of Cyprus , The Iraqi occupation of Kurdistan , The Muslim conflict in Myanmar where Kalar Muslims are trying to steal Rakhine state , Pakistan against India , Muslim insurgency in Thailand ,Philippines , China , Muslim terrorist attacks on every nation in the world, ” refugees ” settled in Europe give their thanks by a New years even rapefest in Germany and pimping and exploiting thousands of teenage children in Rotherham England , Slavery running rampant in Mauritania and Sudan , over a million killed in Darfur by the Islamic State of Sudan and the Janjaweed rape militia terrorizing every female in the territory .

    Muslims don’t need ” Zionists ” to make people hate them .

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    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji

    Witness the Indonesian occupation of Papua...
     
    Hmm... Wouldn't it make more sense to blame these alleged atrocities on the particular individuals and institutions, rather than arbitrarily linking them to the religion practiced by a majority of the populations? As if governments of states populated by followers of other religions (or by atheists, for that matter) never commit any atrocities...
  133. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @kevin
    War is not for oil or military banking comp. it was for Israeli interests. Oded Yinon’s “Clean Break” document and the “Rebuilding America’s defences” by the PNAC think tank, aren’t too dissimilar. Richard Perle was calling for middle east regime change since 1996 for fuck sake.

    A lot of the bullshit intelligence that was not only cherry picked but also fabricated to the point them becoming outright lies, for example Mohammed Atta’s delivery of anthrax to Iraqi officals in Prague, came out of the office of special plans. This was a very low key department within the Pentagon (many intellgience officals did not know it existed) headed by who else but an Israeli Neo-conservative, Douglas Feith.

    You obviously realise the criminal element with US Govt, but if you think the invasion of Iraq was for oil – you’ve still got some reading to do!

    http://www.ipsnews.net/2004/03/iraq-war-launched-to-protect-israel-bush-adviser/


    The destabilization in Iraq and surroundings is something planned from the beginning of the 80s



    The very Israeli media boasted that Jews were bush accessor those responsible for the lie of chemical weapons and resulting aggression and destabilized the iraq
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/white-man-s-burden-1.14110

    http://www.ipsnews.net/2004/03/iraq-war-launched-to-protect-israel-bush-adviser/

    It is known that al Qaeda took part in the Arab spring receiving help from the American government CONTROLLED.

    It is well known that such ISIS received American arms and Israeli medical help.
    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3438625


    "Israel provides medical and military help for Syrians rebels denounced commissioner of the UN! UN Commissioners reported that during the last 18 months the Israel government through its military has been providing medical and military aid to the rebels Syrians .According to the inspectors, meetings between Israelis and Syrians military rebels are common and occur in golinas Golan! "

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/12/07/389114/un-report-reveals-israeltakfiri-links/

    Here's a must-read piece on how American (Jewish) neo-cons planned, organised and carried out the destabilisation of certain middle eastern countries on behalf of Israel leading to the unfolding nightmare Europe is now experiencing.........

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/289489837/Syria-The-Crime-of-the-Century#scribd

    Strange theory that Israel needed to have a war with Iraq since Iraq was never a threat to Israel. As I’m sure you are well aware , Israel bombed Iraq’s nuclear reactor at Osirak in 1983 , killing over a dozen top Iraqi scientists and turning their nuclear program into dust .If Iraq was capable of being a threat to Israel , you have to imagine they would have gone to war over something as egregious as this . If there was ever a time when Iraq would be in a position to do something about the evil Zionists , this would be the time . But alas , there was no response .They bent over , spread their cheeks and took it hard and dry . I mean what more does Israel have to do to provoke a response .??. Iraq was never a threat .But cool conspiracy theory bro.

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    Strange theory that Israel needed to have a war with Iraq since Iraq was never a threat to Israel.
     
    I think it's a big mistake to view Israel as a mere ethnocentric state, concerned about its own safety.

    Israel is a European settler colony in MENA. Its main function is to create permanent instability in the region, and prevent the emergence of secular and independent pan-Arabism, as represented by Nasserism, Baathism, Jamahiriya, etc.

    This was made clear from the beginning. Theodor Herzl wrote about the future "Jewish state in Palestine" being "Europe’s bulwark against Asia" and “the vanguard of culture against barbarianism.”

    Israel is a tool of European imperialism, pure and simple, all the ethnocentric shit being a mere facade for attracting fanatics serving as cannon-fodder.
    , @WJ
    Israel clearly gained from Saddam's removal. After 9/11 there was dark talk of Saddam funding the suicide bombing campaign of 2001 in Israel. Congressman Tom Lantos himself reassured the Israel Labor party in 2002 that "we will get that bastard soon enough and install a pro western dictator, good for both us and you". The you was Israel and the bastard was Saddam Hussein. Look to the leaning of the prominent neocons from Perle, to Wolfowitz, to Frum to Scooter Libby and you will find virulently pro Iraq war , pro Israel views. No conspiracy here bro. Just a long settled argument.
  134. Dinh’s piece is unadulterated trash with not an ounce of evidence to back it up – standard fare for the pwogwessive sites to which he contributes. How can someone write this stuff in good conscience.
    Trump has been quie consistent on Russia but he faces a lot of opposition to his moves for peace if he follows through. The neocons will try to stop him and the pwogwessives are already in the streets brought there by Move.On and other lberalcon forces to trash the Trump presidency before he moves.
    As for rigging the election the attempt was made in the media not at the ballotbox. In the MSM, Trump was treated like Emmanuel Goldstein.

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  135. @anonymous
    Do Zionists really need to stoke anyone's "irrational" hatred of the Islamic faith ??
    Seems Muslims can do a bang up job of that themselves . Witness the Indonesian occupation of Papua since 1963 to the present day with a murder rate to 500,000 Papuans .We can go to the Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara going on since the 80s with a death toll around 40,000 .The Turkish occupation of Cyprus , The Iraqi occupation of Kurdistan , The Muslim conflict in Myanmar where Kalar Muslims are trying to steal Rakhine state , Pakistan against India , Muslim insurgency in Thailand ,Philippines , China , Muslim terrorist attacks on every nation in the world, " refugees " settled in Europe give their thanks by a New years even rapefest in Germany and pimping and exploiting thousands of teenage children in Rotherham England , Slavery running rampant in Mauritania and Sudan , over a million killed in Darfur by the Islamic State of Sudan and the Janjaweed rape militia terrorizing every female in the territory .

    Muslims don't need " Zionists " to make people hate them .

    Witness the Indonesian occupation of Papua…

    Hmm… Wouldn’t it make more sense to blame these alleged atrocities on the particular individuals and institutions, rather than arbitrarily linking them to the religion practiced by a majority of the populations? As if governments of states populated by followers of other religions (or by atheists, for that matter) never commit any atrocities…

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  136. @utu
    170 out 10,370 amounts to 1.6%. 1.6% is 2 times less than 3.1%. So where do you get "Thus whites were more than 10 times as likely as blacks to score 170" from?

    170 is a score on the LSAT. It is not the number of test takers.

    Math:
    29 out 10,370 black test takers scored 170 or above means that 0.3% of black LSAT test takers scored 170 or above.

    3.1% of whites scored 170 or above. 3.1 is more than 10 times greater than 0.3.

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    Thanks. I got it now.
    , @Thomas G.
    This is just made up, to make the whites feel good about themselves, right? If 3% of the whites are that smart, how come they allowed 2% to take over the country, and swindle them everything? Instead of getting the money from the guys who took it all, the only thing you can do is apparently chasing the poor Mexican immigrants. That is really smart!
  137. i said it before the election and will say it again

    the us was fractured into 2 camps and trump not clinton will have a chance at reconciling the 2 sides

    trump will be better for the jews in israel and the diaspora.the pro clinton jewish camp have to be handed a reality check of what it means to be a jew,back to basics of judaism 101.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    Are the leaders in Israel Jewish, ( yeah, I know, they claim the label)? If so, in what sense are they Jews? I always thought that Jews were a religious people and that Zionist leadership were atheists.

    IMHO, violent Zios make Jews look bad in the way that the neocons make Americans seem loathsome.

    In any case, I believe that Trump will be better for Netanyahu and its supporters especially since Trump knows how to "get along" with the tribe. He's always had to; he's extremely vulnerable. Much more so than even the Hapless Harpy.
  138. @Triumph104
    170 is a score on the LSAT. It is not the number of test takers.

    Math:
    29 out 10,370 black test takers scored 170 or above means that 0.3% of black LSAT test takers scored 170 or above.

    3.1% of whites scored 170 or above. 3.1 is more than 10 times greater than 0.3.

    Thanks. I got it now.

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  139. @Anonymous
    I'm not buying it. For starters, Trump was extremely defamed by the entirety of the media, the entertainment industry, academia, and nearly all political insiders, heads of state, etc. the world over. If the establishment were trying to get him elected, would trying to get the public to revile him be a good way to do so? Wouldn't it have simply been easier to do nothing, and let him steamroll Clinton? It was bound to have some effect on the numbers- would they chance having their "stooge" lose?

    Indeed, most predictions going into the election were that he would lose and most of the talking heads were celebratory of the fact. I can understand perhaps the democrats wanting their establishment candidate to go in, but the Republican establishment as well? Republican establishment leader after Republican establishment leader, Republican figureheads like Arnold, Republican voices like the entire frickin' panel of National Review- all trying to get their followers to vote against Trump. And if the establishment as a whole were rigging it, wouldn't they have either overridden the wishes of the those who were against him, as the democrats did to Bernie behind the scenes? And why all the cheating on behalf of Hillary? Wouldn't there have been a lot of lever pulling for Trump? For example- A number of Hillary's debate answers were well-polished and we know why- she had people giving her people the questions ahead of time. Wouldn't this have been going on for Trump? If you think it was, then why were his answers less polished (which would only hurt his numbers).

    The establishment hasn't given 2 sh*ts for the white working class or any white for that matter who doesn't bow down to the ideology of the left. They've been ignoring the 'badwhites' for at least a half century, knowing fully well that whites are too tied into their jobs, their families, their homes, the boundaries of proper society, etc to riot, and raise the kind of hell that would end the establishment. So they've been ignoring the 'badwhites', slowly killing them off through attrition, slowly electing a new people by importing others who have more kids than the whites. And yeah, whitey has been angry, but still hasn't gone to the streets to raise hell. He still works his 9-5, he still pays his taxes, he still sends his kids to their schools to be indoctrinated in left-think. In other words, its been working. No reason why, when they've gotten whitey this far along to think that he's suddenly going to organize a private army to re-take the country.

    And who in their right mind would accept the level of public defamation that Trump has had to endure if they didn't have to- if they were a 'stooge' who could ride into a presidency? The man has had massive damage to his reputation among "those Americans who really count", had the media playing over and over his comments about 'grabbing p*ssy', proclaiming over and over he hated women, etc in front of his daughter, his wife, his young son. He had his personal empire financially damaged by protest, removal of advertising and sponsorship, etc. He had to spend hundreds of millions of his own money- not a lot of gravy train stooge money coming to his campaign.

    It's clear that Hillary was the intended stooge. Aside from email proof (which, by the way had to be delivered to us through foreign sources), she is the one who was given the free pass from the media, the intellectuals, etc. The one to whom the easy money flowed.

    In short, your ideas about Trump just don't add up.

    I concur with #33 who points out that it is obvious that the harpy was the deep state’s intended winner. Look at the propaganda wall Trump faced 24/7. What Lin Dinh noticed was that certain people working for the “deep state” were too honourable to go along, the FBI agents in the know about the Clinton corruption, for instance. This does not disprove that everyone and everything was in the bag for the harpy. Sentient beings who survived the last couple of months cannot but see that inverted totalitarianism was in play but that it barely failed in this instance. It is also interesting that there were plenty of reports of voting machines going from Trump to Clinton but none from Clinton to Trump. My guess is that they managed to steal the popular vote but were too far behind to succeed in stealing the election. Improvement has already occurred: Obama seems in his lame duck phase to no longer be backing el qaeda in Syria and the trade “treaties” appear to be shelved.

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  140. The deep state ushered in Trump because he’s clearly their most useful decoy. As the country hopes in vain, the crooked men behind the curtain will go on with business as usual. Trump is simply an Obama for a different demographic. Nothing will change for the better.

    First let’s get it right – it is the “Jewish Deep State.”

    Trump has already fallen to the Jewish Deep State – he has promised to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. This is a major victory for Zionism. All American presidents have resisted that move. All it took was a few hundred million campaign dollars from one Jew or another. Clearly Trump is giving Zionism a giant boost in its agenda to eliminate Palestine.

    As the major owners of America’s assets – the Jews have a big interest is seeing Trump revitalize America’s economy. America’s economic power and place in the world is THEIR power.

    All political arguments in America are between left wing Jews and right wing Jews.

    Trump is somewhere in the middle between the two.

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    • Replies: @anon
    Do you realize what a major philo-semite you are ? Your "scathing critiques " of Jews come off as nothing so much as massive Jew worship , attributing every event to the machinations of the all powerful Jew.
    , @Chuck Orloski
    Art,

    As you're aware, people come to The Unz Review in order to learn and avoid deception as much as possible. Please bear with my short syllogism here?

    Deception is an act of terror which diminishes human awareness.

    The "Deep Jewish State" employs Deceivers who are deceptively ordained, "whistle blowers."

    Linh Dinh's "Trump Ploy" has advanced awareness and helps fight the terror of deception.

    Please look at You Tube video (below) where R.T. interviews John Young of Cryptome.org? You might be aware that, about two weeks (or so) ago & prior to Donald Trump's victory, Fox News, Sean Hannity interviewed Julian Assange and cleared the latter of all his past Wikileak sins of deception.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wyASvOcqh0

    Post scriptum: Today the gospel reading at St. Ann's Basilica included the following > 2,000 year old advice offered by Jesus; "Be not deceived." (sigh) The more one tries t0 repel deception in its sophisticated 21st Century forms, the harder the Main Stream Media (along with Zionized- pastors & priests) strikes back

    Thank you.
  141. It is possible scenario. No need to speculate. Everything will be clear within 1-2 years. Probably earlier.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    No need to over-react. But there is a need to speculate.

    Things move quickly, and you can't just sit there and wait a year or two while things fall apart.

    If Trump is an establishment shill, the connections need to be quickly in order to neutralize them.
  142. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Art

    The deep state ushered in Trump because he’s clearly their most useful decoy. As the country hopes in vain, the crooked men behind the curtain will go on with business as usual. Trump is simply an Obama for a different demographic. Nothing will change for the better.

     

    First let’s get it right - it is the “Jewish Deep State.”

    Trump has already fallen to the Jewish Deep State - he has promised to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. This is a major victory for Zionism. All American presidents have resisted that move. All it took was a few hundred million campaign dollars from one Jew or another. Clearly Trump is giving Zionism a giant boost in its agenda to eliminate Palestine.

    As the major owners of America’s assets - the Jews have a big interest is seeing Trump revitalize America’s economy. America’s economic power and place in the world is THEIR power.

    All political arguments in America are between left wing Jews and right wing Jews.

    Trump is somewhere in the middle between the two.

    Do you realize what a major philo-semite you are ? Your “scathing critiques ” of Jews come off as nothing so much as massive Jew worship , attributing every event to the machinations of the all powerful Jew.

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    Your “scathing critiques ” of Jews come off as nothing so much as massive Jew worship

    anon,

    Only a Jew could contort what I write into "worship."

    Jews are people with arrested brain function. Normal people gain perspective as they mature - they matriculate and gain wisdom - they begin to have the courage to believe what they see - they begin to have empathy for others.

    Jews at the age of 10 are forever stymied into paranoidal fear and loathing for their fellow humans. Their brainstems are deeply ingrained in hate. They are incapable of seeing their own misdeeds. Their reactions are automatic zombie like. When it comes to politics they are never honest. They are never free.

    Please stop for a minute and be honest --- Jews were all over this election - Jew money dominated the left, right, and center. For sure, the biggest losers in this election are the Palestinians (for the privilege of winning - Trump will sign over Jerusalem - just what at least 85% of all Jews want).

    Art
  143. @mcohen
    i said it before the election and will say it again

    the us was fractured into 2 camps and trump not clinton will have a chance at reconciling the 2 sides

    trump will be better for the jews in israel and the diaspora.the pro clinton jewish camp have to be handed a reality check of what it means to be a jew,back to basics of judaism 101.

    Are the leaders in Israel Jewish, ( yeah, I know, they claim the label)? If so, in what sense are they Jews? I always thought that Jews were a religious people and that Zionist leadership were atheists.

    IMHO, violent Zios make Jews look bad in the way that the neocons make Americans seem loathsome.

    In any case, I believe that Trump will be better for Netanyahu and its supporters especially since Trump knows how to “get along” with the tribe. He’s always had to; he’s extremely vulnerable. Much more so than even the Hapless Harpy.

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  144. @Ron Unz
    Well, I'm pretty skeptical that there was any sort of Deep State plot to put Trump into the White House. Basically, he was a loose cannon and the Elite Establishment, including nearly all the Neocons, did absolutely everything they could to defeat him.

    However, since there's now talk that he may pick James Woolsey and John Bolton as two of his top national security/foreign policy appointments, the outcome amounts to the same thing---they're two of the most extreme and craziest Neocons. Since Trump was an empty vessel on those sorts of issues, he would end up captured by the close allies of the people who would have been running the same Hillary Clinton portfolios.

    People forget, but "W" was originally elected as the *anti-Neocon* candidate, opposed in the 2000 Republican primaries by nearly all the Neocons (who favored McCain), promising a "humble" foreign policy, and not appointing a single Neocon to any Cabinet-level position. But by the end of the year, he'd been totally captured by the Neocons.

    Unfortunately, it wouldn't surprise me if the same thing happened to Trump...

    Deep State wants us to vote their plan A or B. Don’t think Trump was their plan B, but they hedged pretty good. e.g. names you mentioned plus Steven Mnuchin, David Freidman et.al…..

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    @Sergey Krieger
    It is possible scenario. No need to speculate. Everything will be clear within 1-2 years. Probably earlier.

    No need to over-react. But there is a need to speculate.

    Things move quickly, and you can’t just sit there and wait a year or two while things fall apart.

    If Trump is an establishment shill, the connections need to be quickly in order to neutralize them.

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  146. His final cabinet choices are going to be interesting. I doubt he picks Bannon for CoS, Priebus more likely or even Kelly Anne Conway. Bolton or Gingrich for State would clearly lead to an escalation with Iran, something which Trump promised all along – nothing anyone should be surprised by. Ditto, his position on Jerusalem. It isn’t clear to me what wants to do about the Pals. From what I hear regarding his belief about the ‘problem of radical Islam’, it is one inflexible position.

    Repeal of Dodd-Frank, even scrapping a few key provisions including the Volcker Rule would be the preamble to diluting Basle Capital Rules for international banking.

    At the moment Berlin, Paris, Brussels and U.S. corporate interests are simply in the process of sizing Mr Trump for whom the dimensions of the job are just sinking in. He will delegate freely and all policy outcomes with the exception of immigration, are likely to end as legacies of the particular Cabinet member in charge – much more so than they were under Obama or even Bush II.

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  147. @Linh Dinh
    Several commenters have brought up Craig Roberts' analysis as a rebuttal to mine, so I must remind everyone that Roberts started out by warning, repeatedly, that the election would be rigged against Trump.

    When Comey reopened the Clinton investigation, Roberts then said that the election would be rigged for Trump. Now, Roberts is saying that the deep state forgot to rig anything at all since they were so mesmerized by their own propaganda that Clinton would win.

    If they're going to rig, they'll rig, and the propaganda is always meant for us doofuses, not themselves. To say that they neglected to rig the election because they believed their own bullshit makes no sense.

    I'm a long-time admirer of Paul Craig Roberts, but I don't think his incoherent analysis in this instance is very useful.

    No need, really, to attempt to rebut the still mesmerized and ( false ) victory drunk Trumpistas.
    The next six, or at most twelve months ( and maybe a damn sight sooner ) will show the True Donald.
    Trump, like Obama before him, has been a sort of blank slate upon which the disaffected could project their hopes and dreams.
    His wilder statements could easily be laughed off as rhetorical hyperbole ” but you know his heart is in the right place”; maybe so, maybe not- we’ll soon find out.

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  148. @kevin
    Putin is no different from the Zionist who control the West.
    he oppresses own people(slavs) while licking ass of the supremacists Jews



    ethnic Russian is a people on the verge of extinction and big part of it is the fault of your beloved Putin.

    _ You knew that only 40% of the Russian population is white / Slavic?
    _ You know that majoritary ethnic Russian women are married out of your (40% of Muscovites for example) race?

    You knew that in Russia have 2 million abortions every year and the vast majority are of ethnic Russian women married with ethnic Russian man ?
    _ You knew during the Putin government in less than 10 years 15 million illegal immigrants settled around Moscow?
    - You knew Putin created laws that criminalize criticism of the immigration and because of this more than 2000 Russian nationalists today live in penitentiaries?
    you knew Putin banned the existence of political parties and nationalist movements so that many existing parties were extinguished by operation of law?

    “…he oppressed his own people…”
    1. He does not own Russian people: He serves the interests of Russia and this is why his approval rate is in the 80s.
    2. You have mistaken Russian federation for Ukraine: The Kievan junta has indeed employed disproportionate number of Jews on the leading positions in the government (ironically, along with certain neo-Nazis). Ukraine is a Kagans’ clan project; the country is used as a tool for the ziocons. For comparison, see how Douglas Feith had been conducting pro-Israel (anti-American) activities in his position of an undersec. of def. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/01/lie-factory

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  149. The part of the inner state that supported Trump is the domestic police:

    Crossposted (http://tinyurl.com/jtqkdfy):

    Some are disconcerted by the Trump win because they think he’s more “evil” than Clinton. I don’t share this view at all. But those like me who were sure Clinton would win do have a real reason to feel disconcerted – something was wrong with the analysis.

    Broadly, I agreed with Julian Assange that Trump couldn’t win because he lacked the support of any significant part of the ruling class or inner state. This isn’t a general truth, but it is implausible that in the absence of much class struggle, a reactionary who is opposed by the entire ruling class would be elected.

    But most socialists I’ve read seem to think that’s what happened. I don’t. Trump expressed the distress of the rural working class, but the farmlands don’t rule. An atomized and peripheralized rustbelt working class is not a cohesive political force. It requires the glue of a section of the ruling class and inner state to hold this extremely politically confused coalition together.

    A greater number of monopoly capitalists supported Trump than was apparent. But probably most important, Trump has the support of a section of the inner state whose power is burgeoning: the domestic police. The militarization of the police has increased their social weight, to the point where the FBI can successful attack a 4-star general leading the CIA (Petraus). And when a section of the state apparatus was moved to put its finger on the scale for Trump, it was the FBI. (To great effect, in part due to Clinton’s political ineptness and her reflexive retreat to her stock mudslinging.)

    Eighty-four percent of cops support Trump. Cops have become enmeshed in the lives of the poor in America, with drug courts and domestic violence crusades. They are greatly respected by the rural workers they actually oppress.

    The role of the domestic police, from the FBI to the municipal cops, has not to my knowledge been seriously explored in relation to the election. (See “Pseudo-transparency: From the FBI to the State Bars” – http://kanbaroo.blogspot.com/2016/11/interlude-30-pseudo-transparency-from.html )

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    • Replies: @E. A. Costa
    If you'd said private and public security (both booming enterprises) you might have a stab at a case. "Domestic police"--nah.

    But these outfits, like all the rest of the Deep State, are right out in the open and nicely intermeshed.

    It just shows how serious is the decline of US education in the last fifty years or so. No one that one has noticed has mentioned Poe's The Purloined Letter.

    With Trump, both the P. T. Barnum and the Deep State aspects are staring at you from the mantelpiece. And no one has bothered to see if it is the real purloined letter or the substituted one, jeje.

    Carry these wheels within wheels far enough and soon someone will be asking if Señor Linh Dinh, born in 1963 was it--is a play on Lyndon, as in Johnson.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    Huh?

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz artist.
    , @utu
    "The militarization of the police has increased their social weight, to the point where the FBI can successful attack a 4-star general leading the CIA (Petraus)."

    I can see it how the social weight had anything to do with taking down Petraus.
    , @KA
    If that were the explanations ,shouldn't have Obama been defeated in 2012?
  150. “Deep State” has recently become quite popular usage to describe a “secret” US government or “state within a state”. It is quite recent coinage–as far as one can tell from the Turkish derin devlet, “deep state”, used beginning in the 1990′s to describe Turkey’s secret state behind the state. Mr. Linh Dinh is a more than passable poet in English–no doubt he will appreciate the comedy and poetic justice in the etymology.

    In fact whatever it means the Deep State is not so deep nor so secret. The “military industrial complex” that Eisenhower outed would nowdays be considered part of the Deep State, as would the CIA that sabotaged a US-Soviet movement toward detente, which Eisenhower was very enthusiastic about, with the U2 incident.

    If these early examples of DS are not common knowledge it is because in the United States of P.T. Barnum the populace, for the most part, is gullible almost beyond belief, and that partly because they actually want to be, that is, gullible and conned.

    From various signs, it is beginning to look like President Trump, after President Obama, is about to do a “This way to the egress” with most of the program he campaigned on, except perhaps in regard to Syria.

    We’ll see.

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    The “military industrial complex” that Eisenhower outed would nowdays be considered part of the Deep State, as would the CIA that sabotaged a US-Soviet movement toward detente, which Eisenhower was very enthusiastic about, with the U2 incident.
     
    We can also mention as antecedent terms C. Wright Mills's power elite. The big change today is that the domestic police have become an important part of the deep state - and the base in that inner state for Trump. (See previous post.)
    , @jacques sheete

    ...the populace, for the most part, is gullible almost beyond belief, and that partly because they actually want to be, that is, gullible and conned.
     
    I see that as a huge problem.Two other things that really fascinate me are the observations that they are not only gullible and seem to enjoy being conned, but they are so smug about it all and that includes many, if not most, people with "degrees." They are some of the most ignorant and pathologically smug.

    The Trump version of the Hope and Change thingy will surely turn out very much like the Obomba one.


    It's all a huge fraud and Trump giveth not a rat's tush about those who he wooed with election rhetoric.
  151. @E. A. Costa
    "Deep State" has recently become quite popular usage to describe a "secret" US government or "state within a state". It is quite recent coinage--as far as one can tell from the Turkish derin devlet, "deep state", used beginning in the 1990's to describe Turkey's secret state behind the state. Mr. Linh Dinh is a more than passable poet in English--no doubt he will appreciate the comedy and poetic justice in the etymology.

    In fact whatever it means the Deep State is not so deep nor so secret. The "military industrial complex" that Eisenhower outed would nowdays be considered part of the Deep State, as would the CIA that sabotaged a US-Soviet movement toward detente, which Eisenhower was very enthusiastic about, with the U2 incident.

    If these early examples of DS are not common knowledge it is because in the United States of P.T. Barnum the populace, for the most part, is gullible almost beyond belief, and that partly because they actually want to be, that is, gullible and conned.

    From various signs, it is beginning to look like President Trump, after President Obama, is about to do a "This way to the egress" with most of the program he campaigned on, except perhaps in regard to Syria.

    We'll see.

    The “military industrial complex” that Eisenhower outed would nowdays be considered part of the Deep State, as would the CIA that sabotaged a US-Soviet movement toward detente, which Eisenhower was very enthusiastic about, with the U2 incident.

    We can also mention as antecedent terms C. Wright Mills’s power elite. The big change today is that the domestic police have become an important part of the deep state – and the base in that inner state for Trump. (See previous post.)

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    "The big change today is that the domestic police have become an important part of the deep state – and the base in that inner state for Trump"

    Whatever one makes of "Deep State", domestic police as cog cannot be denied and it is probably part of the one percent's grand plan. But qua "police" a cog, that is, a passive element, to be ordered about, propagandized, and as customers for politicizing and militarization.

    Security is a bit larger as a category, easily including various mercenary outfits like Blackwater that were gangbusters under Bush and are still going strong, if more undercover. Again in favor of the cog aspect, Blackwater also had liaison and training programs with a host of domestic police forces.

    But even that reaches back in origins to Vietnam.

    In favor of your argument, one might also introduce Hoover's FBI and the various Red Squads as historical precendents, which had its beginnings in the immediate afteryears of World War I.

    What one is getting at here is--as with "Deep State" itself, is it not so much a change as a change of names?

    The reference to "power elite" is also apropos in that context. Why such a rush into what is after all a calque on Turkish to rename what has been around for many, many decades?
  152. @Stephen R. Diamond
    The part of the inner state that supported Trump is the domestic police:

    Crossposted (http://tinyurl.com/jtqkdfy):

    Some are disconcerted by the Trump win because they think he's more "evil" than Clinton. I don't share this view at all. But those like me who were sure Clinton would win do have a real reason to feel disconcerted - something was wrong with the analysis.

    Broadly, I agreed with Julian Assange that Trump couldn't win because he lacked the support of any significant part of the ruling class or inner state. This isn't a general truth, but it is implausible that in the absence of much class struggle, a reactionary who is opposed by the entire ruling class would be elected.

    But most socialists I've read seem to think that's what happened. I don't. Trump expressed the distress of the rural working class, but the farmlands don't rule. An atomized and peripheralized rustbelt working class is not a cohesive political force. It requires the glue of a section of the ruling class and inner state to hold this extremely politically confused coalition together.

    A greater number of monopoly capitalists supported Trump than was apparent. But probably most important, Trump has the support of a section of the inner state whose power is burgeoning: the domestic police. The militarization of the police has increased their social weight, to the point where the FBI can successful attack a 4-star general leading the CIA (Petraus). And when a section of the state apparatus was moved to put its finger on the scale for Trump, it was the FBI. (To great effect, in part due to Clinton's political ineptness and her reflexive retreat to her stock mudslinging.)

    Eighty-four percent of cops support Trump. Cops have become enmeshed in the lives of the poor in America, with drug courts and domestic violence crusades. They are greatly respected by the rural workers they actually oppress.

    The role of the domestic police, from the FBI to the municipal cops, has not to my knowledge been seriously explored in relation to the election. (See "Pseudo-transparency: From the FBI to the State Bars" - http://kanbaroo.blogspot.com/2016/11/interlude-30-pseudo-transparency-from.html )

    If you’d said private and public security (both booming enterprises) you might have a stab at a case. “Domestic police”–nah.

    But these outfits, like all the rest of the Deep State, are right out in the open and nicely intermeshed.

    It just shows how serious is the decline of US education in the last fifty years or so. No one that one has noticed has mentioned Poe’s The Purloined Letter.

    With Trump, both the P. T. Barnum and the Deep State aspects are staring at you from the mantelpiece. And no one has bothered to see if it is the real purloined letter or the substituted one, jeje.

    Carry these wheels within wheels far enough and soon someone will be asking if Señor Linh Dinh, born in 1963 was it–is a play on Lyndon, as in Johnson.

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  153. Dinh’s analysis is as pessimistic as it gets. Trump is clearly a con man and an insider, (He conned all of the liberal media for starters…) but I think he is being honnest when he says he had no reason to join politics but to try save this country for collapse.

    Why else? Why didnt he just enjoy his billions eating caviar and drinking champagn , enjoying his trophy wife and getting an occasional BJ from a potential miss universe contestant?

    WHY?

    Besides, why would the deep state want to use the Donald as it’s puppet? The man is anything but a puppet, he truly is the epitomous alpha male. Any lion tamer will tell you to avoid trying to tame an alpha male…

    Obviously Trump is a freemason, and he was totally backed by Jesuit Alex Jones. And he is a ‘true friend of Israel’.

    But Trump really represents something different. The Man Behind the Curtain isnt inherently evil. He lets mankind make it’s choices. If we had been dumb enough to elect Clinton we would have diserved what was coming to us. (War with russia, mass extermination, etc)

    But we elected the Donald…

    We chose the illusion of freedom. We chose to fight back against the increasingly alienating bureaucracy. And we will get what we asked for. I think for once the elite is secretly proud of us, they must have thought the american spirit was dead after the 8 years of castration of the Obama reign…

    America will once again lead the world in the right direction. Kudoos to the american people for not falling for their media’s propaganda.

    This will be very good for america and the western world. Not so good for sunni islamists…

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete

    Why?
     
    Why, indeed?

    Why would two geriatrics even bother fighting it out for such a job? Both are sick beyond belief for even thinking about it. If they had a shred of understanding they would understand that their power to effectively change anything for the better for the masses is severely limited. Besides, any lamebrain knows that the job is way too big for any one person. The whole thing is a joke and all participants are mentally and spiritually ill.

    Trump is not the Messiah. Where do people get their faith?

    JC at #161 seems to be onto something...

  154. @anon
    Do you realize what a major philo-semite you are ? Your "scathing critiques " of Jews come off as nothing so much as massive Jew worship , attributing every event to the machinations of the all powerful Jew.

    Your “scathing critiques ” of Jews come off as nothing so much as massive Jew worship

    anon,

    Only a Jew could contort what I write into “worship.”

    Jews are people with arrested brain function. Normal people gain perspective as they mature – they matriculate and gain wisdom – they begin to have the courage to believe what they see – they begin to have empathy for others.

    Jews at the age of 10 are forever stymied into paranoidal fear and loathing for their fellow humans. Their brainstems are deeply ingrained in hate. They are incapable of seeing their own misdeeds. Their reactions are automatic zombie like. When it comes to politics they are never honest. They are never free.

    Please stop for a minute and be honest — Jews were all over this election – Jew money dominated the left, right, and center. For sure, the biggest losers in this election are the Palestinians (for the privilege of winning – Trump will sign over Jerusalem – just what at least 85% of all Jews want).

    Art

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    " Jews are people with arrested brain function".

    Yeah sure and with this "arrested brain function" they composed the greatest modern music known to mankind : Gershwin, Kern, Berlin, Styne, Hammerstein, hundreds more, which myself as a jazz player have come to recognize as magnificent works of art.

    I can recall a Hebrew doctor in our Detroit neighborhood who, after the war in which he had been a combat medico with all of the horrors involved, who then treated the poor goy patients for free.

    Of course the other side of the coin was the Jewish guy who took over a gas station at which I worked my ass off eight to ten hours a day after school, who then paid me twentyfive cents an hour for my first month instead of the promised dollar per hour.

    So there are many sides to this issue.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz player.

    , @Sam J.
    Art says,"...Jews are people with arrested brain function. Normal people gain perspective as they mature – they matriculate and gain wisdom – they begin to have the courage to believe what they see – they begin to have empathy for others..."

    You're almost right. The Jews are a tribe of psychopaths. Not all and probably not even the majority but a lot. Their behavior and religion are clearly psychopathic. If you view their actions through the lens of "They are psychopaths" they make perfect sense. All interactions with them should be those of dealing with psychopaths.

    They has been much speculation that they have a great deal of Neanderthal genetics. If you're honest quite a few of them look like Neanderthals. They have the extended back and a sloped front of the Neanderthals. The study of skull shapes linked to mental behavior is supposedly disproven but maybe there was a reason they pushed it was myth. The facts line up that a people with a great deal of Neanderthal would hate all Cro-Mags with extraordinary passion as the Jews hate everyone else. Neanderthals being psychopaths would explain why they were in Europe for 250,000 years and accomplished basically nothing. The Jews are great at working together to attack others but not so good at working together once they have vanquished the other.
  155. @anonymous
    Strange theory that Israel needed to have a war with Iraq since Iraq was never a threat to Israel. As I'm sure you are well aware , Israel bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osirak in 1983 , killing over a dozen top Iraqi scientists and turning their nuclear program into dust .If Iraq was capable of being a threat to Israel , you have to imagine they would have gone to war over something as egregious as this . If there was ever a time when Iraq would be in a position to do something about the evil Zionists , this would be the time . But alas , there was no response .They bent over , spread their cheeks and took it hard and dry . I mean what more does Israel have to do to provoke a response .??. Iraq was never a threat .But cool conspiracy theory bro.

    Strange theory that Israel needed to have a war with Iraq since Iraq was never a threat to Israel.

    I think it’s a big mistake to view Israel as a mere ethnocentric state, concerned about its own safety.

    Israel is a European settler colony in MENA. Its main function is to create permanent instability in the region, and prevent the emergence of secular and independent pan-Arabism, as represented by Nasserism, Baathism, Jamahiriya, etc.

    This was made clear from the beginning. Theodor Herzl wrote about the future “Jewish state in Palestine” being “Europe’s bulwark against Asia” and “the vanguard of culture against barbarianism.”

    Israel is a tool of European imperialism, pure and simple, all the ethnocentric shit being a mere facade for attracting fanatics serving as cannon-fodder.

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    "...Israel is a tool of European imperialism, pure and simple, all the ethnocentric shit being a mere facade for attracting fanatics serving as cannon-fodder..."

    This is complete nonsense. The Jews run the US and Europe. We don't run them.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Sounds to me as if you've swallowed too much propaganda. What Herzl said just reads liike his pitch to Europeans, including sophisticated German Jews and flatterable Ostjuden, from all of whom he wanted support. Your thesis requires (many) non Jews to be saying it at high levels of government. Moreover you ignore the completely different state of development towards being modern literate Europeans of German and East European Jews.
    , @jacques sheete

    Israel is a tool of European imperialism, pure and simple, all the ethnocentric shit being a mere facade for attracting fanatics serving as cannon-fodder.
     
    Exactly. Big money mafia has hijacked the religious/ethnic shtick for its own ends and many honest, intelligent Jews with a clue recognized it early on.

    A letter to Mr Shepard Rifkin of the American Friends of the Fighters for the Freedom of Israel
    APRIL,16, 1948

    Dear Sir,

    When a real and final catastrophe should befall us in Palestine the first responsible for it would be the British and the second responsible for it the Terrorist organizations we build up from our own ranks.

    I am not willing to be associated with those misled and criminal people.

    Sincerely yours,

    Albert Einstein.

    http://ariseyeprisoners.tumblr.com/post/9653286796/alqudseya-april-16-1948-dear-sir-when-a

     

    Even older:

    I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars...
     
  156. @restless94110
    Who the fuck is William Jefferson Blythe and why the fuck should anyone care?

    Are you trying to be cute?

    I just hate this jargon-y shit that some people use.

    Blythe is Bill Clinton’s bio-dad. Yes, that Bill, he’s a bastard in more ways than one or twenty. He took the last name of a “Stepfather”. Lots of promiscuity in that clan. Nothing to do down there back then but bang ugly-ass farm women. In Bill’s case, his apples did not fall far from his father Blythe’s tree. That man Blythe had many women and he married many women. Bill’s career allowed only the one marriage but surely he approached the sexual-peg-count history of his bio-dad.

    Yes, Anonymous is cute that way. I suspect he has no regard for Bill Blythe–err, Clinton!

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  157. @Anonymous
    Someone's been drinking their serving of Michael Moore Koolaid, haven't they?

    Someone’s been drinking their serving of Michael Moore Koolaid, haven’t they?

    No kiddin’ huh? Imagine the thought process there: “Ratings are dead, guess I’ll go be President for a bit”. Still, it’s Trump. Look, politics is the last refuge of the rich and bored. Capitol Hill is full of guys that having made their first billion, having traveled the world, having screwed all the women a man could screw, got bored, spent a few bucks and went to Washington. Mark Warner is one I know of in Virginia. Cell phone frequencies, his money. Another was/is still up there, Don Beyers, a Volvo dealer in Virginia many years ago. Sonny Bono had it made, gets bored, runs for Congress. Sonny deceased, his wife owns that seat now. Lots of money, lots of nepotism. Lots and lots and lots of pussy. Untold quantities of pussy. Most of it in the 18-22 age-range, interns, all of it fair game and all of them, looking to latch on and stay.

    You have to run about Capitol Hill to believe it. My description does it NO justice. Trump had better have a watcher.

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  158. @Triumph104
    No, whites don't not get into Harvard Law School with LSAT percentiles that low. Glancing at today's figures, the top 25 percent of Harvard Law have LSAT scores are in the 99.4 percentile range and above, 175 and up. The bottom 25 percent have scores in the 97.3 percentile range, 170 and below. Since Steve Sailer said that Obama only applied to Harvard, Yale, and Stanford and no safety schools, I would guess that Obama scored in the 98th percentile, which would have been average for those schools.

    The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education points out that if not for affirmative action, there wouldn't be blacks in top medical, law, or business schools. (Based on my anecdotal research, the one or two blacks admitted on merit alone would overwhelmingly be mixed-race or the child of immigrants, like Obama.)


    In 2004, 10,370 blacks took the LSAT examination. Only 29 blacks, or 0.3 percent of all LSAT test takers, scored 170 or above. In contrast, more than 1,900 white test takers scored 170 or above on the LSAT. They made up 3.1 percent of all white test takers. Thus whites were more than 10 times as likely as blacks to score 170 or above on the LSAT. There were 66 times as many whites as blacks who scored 170 or above on the test.

    Even if we drop the scoring level to 165, a level equal to the mean score of students enrolling at law schools ranked in the top 10 nationwide but not at the very top, we still find very few blacks. There were 108 blacks scoring 165 or better on the LSAT in 2004. They made up 1 percent of all black test takers. For whites, there were 6,689 test takers who scored 165 or above. They made up 10.6 percent of all white students who took the LSAT examination.

    The nation's top law schools could fill their classes exclusively with students who scored 165 or above on the LSAT. But if they were to do so, these law schools would have almost no black students.

    http://www.jbhe.com/news_views/51_graduate_admissions_test.html

     

    http://hls.harvard.edu/dept/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/hls-profile-and-facts/

    The nation’s top law schools could fill their classes exclusively with students who scored 165 or above on the LSAT. But if they were to do so, these law schools would have almost no black students.

    My oh my, Obama was just talking about meritocracy in our system Phhht, there is none. Still, with no Blacks, how would you get #BLM in to harass the Whites, as up here at Dartmouth: https://youtu.be/Ts6bk6J5C20 .

    Morons. These White kids are the real deal. They’re all headed to judgeship, lawyers, cops, legislatures, people of influence and power. And what does #BLM do? Give them a lasting impression of Blacks to leave college with. One day, those Blacks will appear before some of those kids they harassed, as a Judge, or will be affected by a law written by one of these kids they harassed. Blacks are morons. Flip them the bird. Riots? Take care of THAT. The militant 6% can easily be dispatched. Fond hope and wish, but forget it.

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  159. @Art
    Your “scathing critiques ” of Jews come off as nothing so much as massive Jew worship

    anon,

    Only a Jew could contort what I write into "worship."

    Jews are people with arrested brain function. Normal people gain perspective as they mature - they matriculate and gain wisdom - they begin to have the courage to believe what they see - they begin to have empathy for others.

    Jews at the age of 10 are forever stymied into paranoidal fear and loathing for their fellow humans. Their brainstems are deeply ingrained in hate. They are incapable of seeing their own misdeeds. Their reactions are automatic zombie like. When it comes to politics they are never honest. They are never free.

    Please stop for a minute and be honest --- Jews were all over this election - Jew money dominated the left, right, and center. For sure, the biggest losers in this election are the Palestinians (for the privilege of winning - Trump will sign over Jerusalem - just what at least 85% of all Jews want).

    Art

    ” Jews are people with arrested brain function”.

    Yeah sure and with this “arrested brain function” they composed the greatest modern music known to mankind : Gershwin, Kern, Berlin, Styne, Hammerstein, hundreds more, which myself as a jazz player have come to recognize as magnificent works of art.

    I can recall a Hebrew doctor in our Detroit neighborhood who, after the war in which he had been a combat medico with all of the horrors involved, who then treated the poor goy patients for free.

    Of course the other side of the coin was the Jewish guy who took over a gas station at which I worked my ass off eight to ten hours a day after school, who then paid me twentyfive cents an hour for my first month instead of the promised dollar per hour.

    So there are many sides to this issue.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz player.

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    Art: “Jews are people with arrested brain function”.

    Yeah sure and with this “arrested brain function” they composed the greatest modern music known to mankind : Gershwin, Kern, Berlin, Styne, Hammerstein, hundreds more, which myself as a jazz player have come to recognize as magnificent works of art.

     

    What happened - those Jews wrote of love between men and women - they made joyful beautiful music - they wrote music that tickled the mind.

    Sadly, the Jew entertainment industry of today brings us tribal hateful rap - it exacerbates division and hate. The song of today is screaming - its substitutes sentiment and good lyrics with loud.

    What happened was Israel. Gershwin, Kern, and Berlin loved America - they wrote music for an optimistic buoyant people. Their music was culturally Western in flavor - its tempo was upbeat - even when sad, there was hope in rhyme and rhythm.

    What has happened is that Israel has unleashed the dark side of Judaism. Jews are no longer Western - they have become totally Jewish.

    Too bad for them.
  160. @Stephen R. Diamond
    The part of the inner state that supported Trump is the domestic police:

    Crossposted (http://tinyurl.com/jtqkdfy):

    Some are disconcerted by the Trump win because they think he's more "evil" than Clinton. I don't share this view at all. But those like me who were sure Clinton would win do have a real reason to feel disconcerted - something was wrong with the analysis.

    Broadly, I agreed with Julian Assange that Trump couldn't win because he lacked the support of any significant part of the ruling class or inner state. This isn't a general truth, but it is implausible that in the absence of much class struggle, a reactionary who is opposed by the entire ruling class would be elected.

    But most socialists I've read seem to think that's what happened. I don't. Trump expressed the distress of the rural working class, but the farmlands don't rule. An atomized and peripheralized rustbelt working class is not a cohesive political force. It requires the glue of a section of the ruling class and inner state to hold this extremely politically confused coalition together.

    A greater number of monopoly capitalists supported Trump than was apparent. But probably most important, Trump has the support of a section of the inner state whose power is burgeoning: the domestic police. The militarization of the police has increased their social weight, to the point where the FBI can successful attack a 4-star general leading the CIA (Petraus). And when a section of the state apparatus was moved to put its finger on the scale for Trump, it was the FBI. (To great effect, in part due to Clinton's political ineptness and her reflexive retreat to her stock mudslinging.)

    Eighty-four percent of cops support Trump. Cops have become enmeshed in the lives of the poor in America, with drug courts and domestic violence crusades. They are greatly respected by the rural workers they actually oppress.

    The role of the domestic police, from the FBI to the municipal cops, has not to my knowledge been seriously explored in relation to the election. (See "Pseudo-transparency: From the FBI to the State Bars" - http://kanbaroo.blogspot.com/2016/11/interlude-30-pseudo-transparency-from.html )

    Huh?

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz artist.

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  161. @utu
    "I’d love to hear your thoughts on this." You asked for it.

    In August 2015 when the marching columns of young male muslims in Europe became the daily occurrence in news I began to wonder how did Trump know in on June 15, 2015 to focus his first speech on the subject of illegal immigration and on building of the wall. Only then I began to take Trump seriously. His insight was not a coincidence. He or his handlers must have had the info that the refugee crisis was about to unfold soon. It was not Ann Coulter or Steve Sailer as they like to think here at Unz, who were responsible for the most important pillar of Trump's platform. It was just an opportunistic choice promulgated by the impending invasion on Europe. And then it stuck.

    The refugee invasion was directed against Germany, not a very reliable ally of America and Israel. The Germany's proclivity for flirtation with Russia was always suspect. Already Bismarck was saying that the secret behind his successful policy (of unification of Germany) was a good pact with Russia. Any pacts with Russia after 2014 Ukraine were verboten.

    But what really was to be accomplished by the waves of refugees? The instigators were hoping that Europe (Germany) would get its act together and help to bring the no-fly zone to Syria for the final act of planned destruction of Syria. And because of Iranian involvement on the side of Assad the bombing of Syrian and Iranian troops would derail the Iran deal that Obama has just finalized.

    But things did not go as the planners hoped for. Angela Merkel in a masterful aikido gambit embraced the refugees and thus diffused the tension obviously at high cost to Germany and German people and by doing so she gave Putin few more weeks to move into Syria to kill any chance for the American no-fly zone. All in the same month of September 2015.

    Who were the people behind Trump in June 2015? Certainly they were people with connections to CIA and Mossad.

    Who was to benefit from the refugee invasion on Europe in 2015? Those who wanted to finish Syria off and kill Obama's deal with Iran.

    Who will benefit the most (and already does) form America's attempt to build the wall? Israel. It legitimizes everything what Israel does.

    Is the raise of new European right resulting from the backlash to the muslim invasion a concern for the instigator of the invasion? No, as long as the traditional anti-Semitism associated with old European right is replaced with islamophobia and admiration for Israel who shows the way how to deal with muslims and Arabs.. This shift has already occurred years ago. Marine Le Pen unlike her father has very good relations with Zionists. The same goes for British right. And in extreme case it suffices to read Breivik manifesto to see the face of the New Right. And for the mild American version of it one can see hints of this realignment in comments at iSteve.

    As Trump campaign was unfolding I kept wondering whether he could have any chance to win. Were his backers really serious in having him? A guy of very limited intellect and knowledge with serious personality flaws? Really? Several months I concluded that if Trump is permitted to win it may mean only one thing: the Deep State, whatever it is, have something really serious in store for us. Is it going to be great depression, a war...?

    I was under the impression that this is a kind of discussion forum, and not a venue for the display of two-bit political novels.

    And regarding your snotty comment : “A guy of very limited intellect” : Trump.

    You wouldn’t know an “Intellect” if it slapped you upside the head.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plua years and pro jazz artist.

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  162. @E. A. Costa
    "Deep State" has recently become quite popular usage to describe a "secret" US government or "state within a state". It is quite recent coinage--as far as one can tell from the Turkish derin devlet, "deep state", used beginning in the 1990's to describe Turkey's secret state behind the state. Mr. Linh Dinh is a more than passable poet in English--no doubt he will appreciate the comedy and poetic justice in the etymology.

    In fact whatever it means the Deep State is not so deep nor so secret. The "military industrial complex" that Eisenhower outed would nowdays be considered part of the Deep State, as would the CIA that sabotaged a US-Soviet movement toward detente, which Eisenhower was very enthusiastic about, with the U2 incident.

    If these early examples of DS are not common knowledge it is because in the United States of P.T. Barnum the populace, for the most part, is gullible almost beyond belief, and that partly because they actually want to be, that is, gullible and conned.

    From various signs, it is beginning to look like President Trump, after President Obama, is about to do a "This way to the egress" with most of the program he campaigned on, except perhaps in regard to Syria.

    We'll see.

    …the populace, for the most part, is gullible almost beyond belief, and that partly because they actually want to be, that is, gullible and conned.

    I see that as a huge problem.Two other things that really fascinate me are the observations that they are not only gullible and seem to enjoy being conned, but they are so smug about it all and that includes many, if not most, people with “degrees.” They are some of the most ignorant and pathologically smug.

    The Trump version of the Hope and Change thingy will surely turn out very much like the Obomba one.

    It’s all a huge fraud and Trump giveth not a rat’s tush about those who he wooed with election rhetoric.

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  163. @Triumph104
    Trump ran for president to save face. The Celebrity Apprentice is cheap to make but the ratings were low and I'm sure that NBC wanted to salvage the show with a new host and told Trump and his kids that their services were no longer needed. A Trump-less show was filmed almost a year ago and is scheduled to air January 2017 with Arnold Schwarzenegger as the host. If NBC had waited another year, Trump never would have run for president.

    After the Orlando false flag shooting on June 12th, 2016
     
    Huh?

    “Trump ran for president to save face.”
    This statement could be done by a person who does not understand the effort and expense of a prez election. For a starter, here are the numbers:
    “Hillary Clinton having raised more than $1 billion this election—thanks in large part to a cadre of wealthy donors sending tens of millions of dollars into super-PACs…. Trump put $56.2 million of his own into the campaign, leaving him with scant time to put in the rest of the $100 million.”
    $1 billion versus $156 million ($56 million of which were his own). http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/

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    This statement could be done by a person who does not understand the effort and expense of a prez election. For a starter, here are the numbers:
     
    No you are the one who can't understand. I tell you that Trump's ego will not let him be publicly shamed as someone who gets fired or is a loser, and in your eagerness to "correct" me you supply data that backs up what I said. He spent $56 million to save face and it worked.
  164. @Kosher Bacon
    Dinh's analysis is as pessimistic as it gets. Trump is clearly a con man and an insider, (He conned all of the liberal media for starters...) but I think he is being honnest when he says he had no reason to join politics but to try save this country for collapse.

    Why else? Why didnt he just enjoy his billions eating caviar and drinking champagn , enjoying his trophy wife and getting an occasional BJ from a potential miss universe contestant?

    WHY?

    Besides, why would the deep state want to use the Donald as it's puppet? The man is anything but a puppet, he truly is the epitomous alpha male. Any lion tamer will tell you to avoid trying to tame an alpha male...

    Obviously Trump is a freemason, and he was totally backed by Jesuit Alex Jones. And he is a 'true friend of Israel'.

    But Trump really represents something different. The Man Behind the Curtain isnt inherently evil. He lets mankind make it's choices. If we had been dumb enough to elect Clinton we would have diserved what was coming to us. (War with russia, mass extermination, etc)

    But we elected the Donald...

    We chose the illusion of freedom. We chose to fight back against the increasingly alienating bureaucracy. And we will get what we asked for. I think for once the elite is secretly proud of us, they must have thought the american spirit was dead after the 8 years of castration of the Obama reign...

    America will once again lead the world in the right direction. Kudoos to the american people for not falling for their media's propaganda.

    This will be very good for america and the western world. Not so good for sunni islamists...

    Why?

    Why, indeed?

    Why would two geriatrics even bother fighting it out for such a job? Both are sick beyond belief for even thinking about it. If they had a shred of understanding they would understand that their power to effectively change anything for the better for the masses is severely limited. Besides, any lamebrain knows that the job is way too big for any one person. The whole thing is a joke and all participants are mentally and spiritually ill.

    Trump is not the Messiah. Where do people get their faith?

    JC at #161 seems to be onto something…

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  165. This analysis is wrong. Trump said he would contest a ‘close vote that went against him’. So Trump wasn’t going to do an Al Gore and slink off. Trump has money and resources, so he wasn’t going to run away.

    We all know about passed election fixes and hacking, they can be proved, so Trump would win legally and many would go to jail. This is the fundamental reason why Trump pulled it off on a turnout of less that 50%.

    Of courser, this does not mean that Trump is not veiled elite. Trump is already going soft of many policies and it could result in only a minor shift in policies. The British elite allowed Brexit to happen. This is not some mistake, ‘oh dear, we didn’t expect that to happen.’

    So don’t be fooled into this mindeset that states ‘the elite didn’t understand just how angry the sheeple were feeling’, they knew alright.

    There are plenty of events, probably contrived, that can change the present game far more than Brexit or Trump winning.

    Look at the pattern: G.W. Bush was head of the CIA where he established his own personal intel organisation that was embbeded in the CIA/NSA and at public cost. Bush was VP under Raygun (Reagan), but was effectively the president for eight years and then served four years as elected president, that is 12 years in the White House. Then Clinton did eight years and the secret intel served Bill Clinton (best crime buddy of Bush). Then we get eight years of Dubya, so that totals at 28 years. Obama the president who can’t show a genuine birth certificate and no one remembers him at university…the puppet and he does eight years, so the new total is 36 years for this crime syndicate, and then Hilary fails, or does she?

    None of these previous leaders gives a —t about Mexicans, Syrians or the sheeple in Europe. All they care about in the top line, THE TOP LINE and the NWO agenda. In fact, many of Trump’s policies are distractions and the MSM hypes them up and drenches the sheeple with fear.

    Can someone tell me if Trump is related to Queen Lizzy? There are games and there are games within games and only the Rothschilds know all the rules. One thing is clear, if we get to next summer without a nuclear war, then we’ll know what Trump really is. In reality, things are so bad in the US (& UK) that change should come quickly, within two years, if not, Trump will be a failure, he must show results within two years, before the next election cycle starts again.

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  166. @Ron Unz
    Well, as a contrary follow-up to my previous comment, the NYT this morning quoted Trump as saying he would be cutting off support for the Islamicist rebels in Syria, and apparently working with Russia, Syria, and Iran in the region in their efforts against ISIS.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/world/middleeast/donald-trump-syria.html

    This is *extremely* good news to me, and exactly the sort of reason I supported Trump's election.

    I have absolutely no idea whether the "Deep State" is secretly behind this non-crazy policy, but if so, then three cheers for them!

    “…Trump as saying he would be cutting off support for the Islamicist rebels in Syria…”

    If true this is info on the Orgasmatron level. Jump for joy. Snoopy dance.

    I had heard that Trump was talking about Bolton for Sec. of State and almost died but I think it may be that there’s a big fight going on with the Neo-cons trying to slip people in and some others like Sessions trying to correct things.

    My hope is no Neo-cons at any level of government at all.

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  167. @folktruther
    Linh Dinh makes a powerful argument, even though he is a disgusting racist. This would answer the question I asked yesterday; why did the stock market go up after a Trump win? If Linh Dinh is right, the plutocracy sure fooled me.

    However another possibility is that the plutocracy is split; one side for more war, one side for hauling ass. The Wall Street Journal, wrote a strong article which operatively favored Trump. Maybe more hidden plutes favored Trump.

    Actually, now that I reflect on it, this appears a better explanation.

    Linh Dinh makes a powerful argument

    He does, but ultimately for me he crosses too far over from justifiable cynicism to outright fantasy. In the real world a “deep state”, in any country, is not the kind of all powerful, all knowing conspiracy that Linh Dinh describes, but rather a semi-formal grouping of immensely powerful insiders.

    If anybody in the US is a party to such, it is for sure the Clintons and the Bushes

    even though he is a disgusting racist

    Certainly he is not “disgusting” (in his public persona – I don’t know him personally), either in general or in his “racism”. Insofar as he is “racist”, he is moderately and reasonably so.

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  168. @Art
    Your “scathing critiques ” of Jews come off as nothing so much as massive Jew worship

    anon,

    Only a Jew could contort what I write into "worship."

    Jews are people with arrested brain function. Normal people gain perspective as they mature - they matriculate and gain wisdom - they begin to have the courage to believe what they see - they begin to have empathy for others.

    Jews at the age of 10 are forever stymied into paranoidal fear and loathing for their fellow humans. Their brainstems are deeply ingrained in hate. They are incapable of seeing their own misdeeds. Their reactions are automatic zombie like. When it comes to politics they are never honest. They are never free.

    Please stop for a minute and be honest --- Jews were all over this election - Jew money dominated the left, right, and center. For sure, the biggest losers in this election are the Palestinians (for the privilege of winning - Trump will sign over Jerusalem - just what at least 85% of all Jews want).

    Art

    Art says,”…Jews are people with arrested brain function. Normal people gain perspective as they mature – they matriculate and gain wisdom – they begin to have the courage to believe what they see – they begin to have empathy for others…”

    You’re almost right. The Jews are a tribe of psychopaths. Not all and probably not even the majority but a lot. Their behavior and religion are clearly psychopathic. If you view their actions through the lens of “They are psychopaths” they make perfect sense. All interactions with them should be those of dealing with psychopaths.

    They has been much speculation that they have a great deal of Neanderthal genetics. If you’re honest quite a few of them look like Neanderthals. They have the extended back and a sloped front of the Neanderthals. The study of skull shapes linked to mental behavior is supposedly disproven but maybe there was a reason they pushed it was myth. The facts line up that a people with a great deal of Neanderthal would hate all Cro-Mags with extraordinary passion as the Jews hate everyone else. Neanderthals being psychopaths would explain why they were in Europe for 250,000 years and accomplished basically nothing. The Jews are great at working together to attack others but not so good at working together once they have vanquished the other.

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  169. On the foreign front, America’s belligerence will not ease up under a Trump presidency, for without a hyper kinetic military to browbeat and bomb, the world will stop lending us money.

    On the key issues, the signs are mixed, but include some good ones so far:

    Trump Expects to End US Aid to Syrian Rebels
    Trump Won’t Rip Up Iran Deal, Adviser Confirms

    On the other hand, the election of Trump doesn’t mean the colossal lobby forces manipulating US foreign policy towards aggression and confrontation have gone away, just that the new president is not obviously yet as fully in hock to them as Clinton is.

    A lot will depend on personnel – how many of the interventionist, external loyalty and neocon worms get themselves into position to pour the kind of poison into the new presidents ear that they did with Bush II:

    Neocons Trying to Sneak Into Trump Administration

    And the category “interventionist, external loyalty and neocon worms” includes many who didn’t fall into the “Never Trump” grouping, as well.

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  170. @Stephen R. Diamond
    The part of the inner state that supported Trump is the domestic police:

    Crossposted (http://tinyurl.com/jtqkdfy):

    Some are disconcerted by the Trump win because they think he's more "evil" than Clinton. I don't share this view at all. But those like me who were sure Clinton would win do have a real reason to feel disconcerted - something was wrong with the analysis.

    Broadly, I agreed with Julian Assange that Trump couldn't win because he lacked the support of any significant part of the ruling class or inner state. This isn't a general truth, but it is implausible that in the absence of much class struggle, a reactionary who is opposed by the entire ruling class would be elected.

    But most socialists I've read seem to think that's what happened. I don't. Trump expressed the distress of the rural working class, but the farmlands don't rule. An atomized and peripheralized rustbelt working class is not a cohesive political force. It requires the glue of a section of the ruling class and inner state to hold this extremely politically confused coalition together.

    A greater number of monopoly capitalists supported Trump than was apparent. But probably most important, Trump has the support of a section of the inner state whose power is burgeoning: the domestic police. The militarization of the police has increased their social weight, to the point where the FBI can successful attack a 4-star general leading the CIA (Petraus). And when a section of the state apparatus was moved to put its finger on the scale for Trump, it was the FBI. (To great effect, in part due to Clinton's political ineptness and her reflexive retreat to her stock mudslinging.)

    Eighty-four percent of cops support Trump. Cops have become enmeshed in the lives of the poor in America, with drug courts and domestic violence crusades. They are greatly respected by the rural workers they actually oppress.

    The role of the domestic police, from the FBI to the municipal cops, has not to my knowledge been seriously explored in relation to the election. (See "Pseudo-transparency: From the FBI to the State Bars" - http://kanbaroo.blogspot.com/2016/11/interlude-30-pseudo-transparency-from.html )

    “The militarization of the police has increased their social weight, to the point where the FBI can successful attack a 4-star general leading the CIA (Petraus).”

    I can see it how the social weight had anything to do with taking down Petraus.

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  171. I think a lot of what Linh Dinh says is correct but I don’t believe that Trump is a ringer for the Jews. I think Trump is just what he says he is. I think Trump hung around a lot of Jews because that’s what you do if you want to get ahead in New York. If you’re a fish you swim in water. Just the way it is. I think the Jews actively cultivate people like Trump. Aggressive up and comers.

    I believe Trump ran as a lark. I do believe that he believes all the talking points that he brought up during the election. He’s been saying a lot of them for decades and they’re mostly common sense anyways for an independent person who’s livelihood doesn’t depend on political donors. I don’t think he thought he would win but as a competitive guy once it looked like he could he pushed on through. I also believe that Hillary cheated BIG time but it just wasn’t enough. I bet the actual vote was MUCH higher for Trump.

    Now there’s a struggle. The neo-cons are doing all they can to place people in top positions. Trump will have to choose and it will be difficult. He doesn’t have a Rolodex of intellectual gov. heavy hitters that’s not filled with neo-cons. They’ve taken over the state recently. It’s going to be tough to find people. Anyone with good sense in the past decade that didn’t want to go along with their program has most likely decided that they were not going into politics and are in some other field. He needs to call in non politicians and they’re just have to wing it. It will mean a lot of false steps and be a little disorganized but it will eventually mean a better America.

    If Trump wanted to he could roll all these bastards up. 9-11 is a big glaring fuck up that they made. All he has to do is point to building#7. Build#7 is impossible to explain without some sort of demo. Impossible.

    He would have to watch his back. If I was in his place before I talked about 9-11 I would fire all of the top 10% of every agency in the US government related to security. Publicly declare that it’s their job to see what is obvious and that they’re not fit to run things as any fool can see building #7 was demoed. I would also ditch all the secret service as I assume they’re compromised and bring in special forces to guard him while new secret service people are trained.

    A lot of the deep state is really just a good ole boys network. They do each other favors and look the other way. I also believe that the ones in the “official” deep state (ODS) are all compromised with sex with children or some other initiation. This could be used to attack them as they have records somewhere of this. There are plenty of people at the lower levels that are corrupt but I’ll bet the worst (ODS) are somewhat isolated from the average CIA, NSA and etc. worker. The average ones would back Trump 100% and wish only the best for our country.

    This is truly a magic moment. The Jews, the neo-cons, the deep state, all them really have their asses hanging out. They’ve done a lot of stupid stuff because no one has challenged them in decades and anyone who does they just kill. There’s tons of info on stupid crimes they’ve done. The only way they’ve been able to do them is they’re the government so the go free. The evidence is still there in numerous places.

    It’s also likely that a great deal of them are psychopaths. Psychopaths tend to keep pushing if they don’t get reined in. They always get in trouble eventually because they don’t understand people as well as they think they do.

    I have a theory that the 250 or so year life of Empires is because it takes about that amount of time for the psychopaths to work their way up the chain of government. Once they get there the country rapidly falls apart due to their stupidity.

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    "I have a theory that the 250 or so year life of Empires is because it takes about that amount of time for the psychopaths to work their way up the chain of government. Once they get there the country rapidly falls apart due to their stupidity."

    Good stuff, and likely something like this is very true. Probably applies not just to empires but to countries as well.

    The connection between psychopathy and the ruling elite of any country is a serious one and has never been properly studied, which would be hard to do.

    It's the old adage that those who want to rule shouldn't be allower near power. Power should only be given to those who don't want it.

    Tolstoy thought all elites are always the most psychopathic element of every society, and I strongly suspect he was right.

    Our modern democracies were clearly designed to give power to those who lust for it but also to pit various psychopathic factions against each other in the hopes that this would ensure stability.

    It didn't work, the psychopaths are just colluding.

    Well, maybe the next advance in political science will address the psychopath issue and develop ways to deliver power into the hands of the reluctant and screen out those eager for it.
    , @mcohen
    you think trump ran as a lark....spent a little money cause it was real funny.
  172. @Mao Cheng Ji

    Strange theory that Israel needed to have a war with Iraq since Iraq was never a threat to Israel.
     
    I think it's a big mistake to view Israel as a mere ethnocentric state, concerned about its own safety.

    Israel is a European settler colony in MENA. Its main function is to create permanent instability in the region, and prevent the emergence of secular and independent pan-Arabism, as represented by Nasserism, Baathism, Jamahiriya, etc.

    This was made clear from the beginning. Theodor Herzl wrote about the future "Jewish state in Palestine" being "Europe’s bulwark against Asia" and “the vanguard of culture against barbarianism.”

    Israel is a tool of European imperialism, pure and simple, all the ethnocentric shit being a mere facade for attracting fanatics serving as cannon-fodder.

    “…Israel is a tool of European imperialism, pure and simple, all the ethnocentric shit being a mere facade for attracting fanatics serving as cannon-fodder…”

    This is complete nonsense. The Jews run the US and Europe. We don’t run them.

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  173. @Linh Dinh
    Hi Alexander,

    The US is messing with Russia and China to prevent the economic integration of Eurasia. Should all these countries fall into the Russian/Chinese orbit, we would be left out in the cold. Yes, our wars and provocations all over cost tons of money, but without this constant imperial flexing, the world would not be intimidated into lending us $19 trillion and counting. All the merchandises flooding this country would dry up. We can afford to run up our obscene debts because we're the bossman swinging a huge stick.

    We also fight Middle East wars to serve Israel, and I don't see that changing in the foreseeable future.


    Linh

    Dear Linh ,

    Thanks for the response.

    Unfortunately, it is somewhat solipsistic and ridiculous.

    Considering that by the year 2000,The USA already HAD established itself as the preeminent military force on the planet ( the “big stick”) when our budget for being so was 250 billion dollars per year.

    This was nearly 9 times the budget of any other nation at the time.

    And Americans were happy to pay it. I know I was..

    Every other country on the planet was racing to purchase our treasury bonds (what you refer to as “loaning us money”) because of our outstanding credit worthiness based on being the supreme economic powerhouse of the world , that balanced its budget , ran a surplus, and had very LITTLE debt relative to our GDP.

    AND….. the most powerful “military” on the planet.

    BUT somehow your argument is… that our government ,under the stewardship of our beloved neocons, LIED us into war …vaporizing 19 trillion dollars of our solvency, so we could have a Big Stick to extort the rest of the world into loaning us 19 trillion dollars to underwrite our insolvency from fighting the bogus wars of aggression they LIED us into ?.

    This is a solipsistic argument, Linh.

    And pretty ridiculous too.

    Wouldn’t you agree ?

    The point I am making is that after 9-11, our government had a clear mandate from the American People to bring the perpetrators to justice…..they never had a mandate to LIE us into war, or start destroying other countries that NEVER attacked us.

    Just the fact that we WERE lied into war ,in the first place , should put the ONUS of “paying for it” on the LIARS…..not the “lied-to” taxpayer.

    If President elect Trump, had any real “cojones” at all, he would arrest them , right away, claw back ALL the trillions they pocketed from this “deceit”, and use those funds to jump start his infrastructure plan to get Americans back to work.

    That is the SMART play.

    What has shaken the “establishment” (down to its bones), is THEY KNOW its the smart play, and they know they deserve it.

    Big time.

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  174. @anonymous
    Strange theory that Israel needed to have a war with Iraq since Iraq was never a threat to Israel. As I'm sure you are well aware , Israel bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osirak in 1983 , killing over a dozen top Iraqi scientists and turning their nuclear program into dust .If Iraq was capable of being a threat to Israel , you have to imagine they would have gone to war over something as egregious as this . If there was ever a time when Iraq would be in a position to do something about the evil Zionists , this would be the time . But alas , there was no response .They bent over , spread their cheeks and took it hard and dry . I mean what more does Israel have to do to provoke a response .??. Iraq was never a threat .But cool conspiracy theory bro.

    Israel clearly gained from Saddam’s removal. After 9/11 there was dark talk of Saddam funding the suicide bombing campaign of 2001 in Israel. Congressman Tom Lantos himself reassured the Israel Labor party in 2002 that “we will get that bastard soon enough and install a pro western dictator, good for both us and you”. The you was Israel and the bastard was Saddam Hussein. Look to the leaning of the prominent neocons from Perle, to Wolfowitz, to Frum to Scooter Libby and you will find virulently pro Iraq war , pro Israel views. No conspiracy here bro. Just a long settled argument.

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  175. @Triumph104
    Trump ran for president to save face. The Celebrity Apprentice is cheap to make but the ratings were low and I'm sure that NBC wanted to salvage the show with a new host and told Trump and his kids that their services were no longer needed. A Trump-less show was filmed almost a year ago and is scheduled to air January 2017 with Arnold Schwarzenegger as the host. If NBC had waited another year, Trump never would have run for president.

    After the Orlando false flag shooting on June 12th, 2016
     
    Huh?

    Irrational silliness that adds nothing to the discussion.

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  176. @Alfa158
    I enjoy Dinh's interviews with marginal, often wacked-out Americans, but I never realized he was one of them.
    Really; Trump won in a landslide? Odd sort of arithmetic there. The Orlando shooting was a false flag? The ruling class vilified Trump, but in reality they loved him and the only reason they did everything to defeat him was because they wanted him to win? The omnipotent deep state knew Clinton couldn't win, but instead of simply plugging someone else into her place they instead threw the election to Trump by doing everything they could to defeat him?
    I have a suggestion for the subject of his next Obscured American interview: himself. If he can do such a great job of arguing with himself in this piece, he should have no trouble interviewing himself.

    Yes, though I usually enjoy reading Linh Dinh he’s pedling fairy tales here which suggest that he knows as much about a Deep State as about witches and elves.

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  177. @Anonymous
    I'm not buying it. For starters, Trump was extremely defamed by the entirety of the media, the entertainment industry, academia, and nearly all political insiders, heads of state, etc. the world over. If the establishment were trying to get him elected, would trying to get the public to revile him be a good way to do so? Wouldn't it have simply been easier to do nothing, and let him steamroll Clinton? It was bound to have some effect on the numbers- would they chance having their "stooge" lose?

    Indeed, most predictions going into the election were that he would lose and most of the talking heads were celebratory of the fact. I can understand perhaps the democrats wanting their establishment candidate to go in, but the Republican establishment as well? Republican establishment leader after Republican establishment leader, Republican figureheads like Arnold, Republican voices like the entire frickin' panel of National Review- all trying to get their followers to vote against Trump. And if the establishment as a whole were rigging it, wouldn't they have either overridden the wishes of the those who were against him, as the democrats did to Bernie behind the scenes? And why all the cheating on behalf of Hillary? Wouldn't there have been a lot of lever pulling for Trump? For example- A number of Hillary's debate answers were well-polished and we know why- she had people giving her people the questions ahead of time. Wouldn't this have been going on for Trump? If you think it was, then why were his answers less polished (which would only hurt his numbers).

    The establishment hasn't given 2 sh*ts for the white working class or any white for that matter who doesn't bow down to the ideology of the left. They've been ignoring the 'badwhites' for at least a half century, knowing fully well that whites are too tied into their jobs, their families, their homes, the boundaries of proper society, etc to riot, and raise the kind of hell that would end the establishment. So they've been ignoring the 'badwhites', slowly killing them off through attrition, slowly electing a new people by importing others who have more kids than the whites. And yeah, whitey has been angry, but still hasn't gone to the streets to raise hell. He still works his 9-5, he still pays his taxes, he still sends his kids to their schools to be indoctrinated in left-think. In other words, its been working. No reason why, when they've gotten whitey this far along to think that he's suddenly going to organize a private army to re-take the country.

    And who in their right mind would accept the level of public defamation that Trump has had to endure if they didn't have to- if they were a 'stooge' who could ride into a presidency? The man has had massive damage to his reputation among "those Americans who really count", had the media playing over and over his comments about 'grabbing p*ssy', proclaiming over and over he hated women, etc in front of his daughter, his wife, his young son. He had his personal empire financially damaged by protest, removal of advertising and sponsorship, etc. He had to spend hundreds of millions of his own money- not a lot of gravy train stooge money coming to his campaign.

    It's clear that Hillary was the intended stooge. Aside from email proof (which, by the way had to be delivered to us through foreign sources), she is the one who was given the free pass from the media, the intellectuals, etc. The one to whom the easy money flowed.

    In short, your ideas about Trump just don't add up.

    Yes Linh Dinh is playing out of his league and should stick to what he’s good at.

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    "Linh Dinh... should stick to what he's good at."

    My dear, Wizard, I am glad he did!

    A while back, L.D. issued the following (undemocratic election) assessment, made by Josef Stalin: "It's not the voters who that matter, but it's who counts the votes that matters." Note, best I could, I paraphrased the Vodh's quote, but all who have learned from "The Trump Decoy" might like to read what Kevin Barrett said, below, and realize K.B.'s in the same Major League as Linh Dinh.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/11/15/a-nation-of-morons/

    "Let's roll" with more comments! We do not get articles like this one very often. Thanks.
  178. @Linh Dinh
    Hi utu,

    Brexit and the Trump win are merely symbolic victories for the masses. With its own currency, England was never really a part of the European Union anyway, and since it's physically apart, it never had to worry about EU-styled open borders. Despite all that, England is the most multicultural of all European countries, with its traditional identity most diluted. Brexit, then, was allowed as a symbolic backlash, same as the Trump presidency.

    I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.


    Linh

    Allowed? Allowed by whom and by what mechanism? I’ve enjoyed your pieces where you get people to talk without art but in this fantasy mode (or is it genuine earnest ignorance) you are full of BS. Never part of the EU because not in the EZ is also an ignorant gross exaggeration. Stick to what you know.

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  179. @utu
    "I’d love to hear your thoughts on this." You asked for it.

    In August 2015 when the marching columns of young male muslims in Europe became the daily occurrence in news I began to wonder how did Trump know in on June 15, 2015 to focus his first speech on the subject of illegal immigration and on building of the wall. Only then I began to take Trump seriously. His insight was not a coincidence. He or his handlers must have had the info that the refugee crisis was about to unfold soon. It was not Ann Coulter or Steve Sailer as they like to think here at Unz, who were responsible for the most important pillar of Trump's platform. It was just an opportunistic choice promulgated by the impending invasion on Europe. And then it stuck.

    The refugee invasion was directed against Germany, not a very reliable ally of America and Israel. The Germany's proclivity for flirtation with Russia was always suspect. Already Bismarck was saying that the secret behind his successful policy (of unification of Germany) was a good pact with Russia. Any pacts with Russia after 2014 Ukraine were verboten.

    But what really was to be accomplished by the waves of refugees? The instigators were hoping that Europe (Germany) would get its act together and help to bring the no-fly zone to Syria for the final act of planned destruction of Syria. And because of Iranian involvement on the side of Assad the bombing of Syrian and Iranian troops would derail the Iran deal that Obama has just finalized.

    But things did not go as the planners hoped for. Angela Merkel in a masterful aikido gambit embraced the refugees and thus diffused the tension obviously at high cost to Germany and German people and by doing so she gave Putin few more weeks to move into Syria to kill any chance for the American no-fly zone. All in the same month of September 2015.

    Who were the people behind Trump in June 2015? Certainly they were people with connections to CIA and Mossad.

    Who was to benefit from the refugee invasion on Europe in 2015? Those who wanted to finish Syria off and kill Obama's deal with Iran.

    Who will benefit the most (and already does) form America's attempt to build the wall? Israel. It legitimizes everything what Israel does.

    Is the raise of new European right resulting from the backlash to the muslim invasion a concern for the instigator of the invasion? No, as long as the traditional anti-Semitism associated with old European right is replaced with islamophobia and admiration for Israel who shows the way how to deal with muslims and Arabs.. This shift has already occurred years ago. Marine Le Pen unlike her father has very good relations with Zionists. The same goes for British right. And in extreme case it suffices to read Breivik manifesto to see the face of the New Right. And for the mild American version of it one can see hints of this realignment in comments at iSteve.

    As Trump campaign was unfolding I kept wondering whether he could have any chance to win. Were his backers really serious in having him? A guy of very limited intellect and knowledge with serious personality flaws? Really? Several months I concluded that if Trump is permitted to win it may mean only one thing: the Deep State, whatever it is, have something really serious in store for us. Is it going to be great depression, a war...?

    Hi utu,

    Thank you for your thought-provoking comment. The greatest depression is certainly coming, and a desperate series of wars to prevent this total collapse is most likely. Trump will preside over this mess.

    Linh

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  180. @Stephen R. Diamond
    The part of the inner state that supported Trump is the domestic police:

    Crossposted (http://tinyurl.com/jtqkdfy):

    Some are disconcerted by the Trump win because they think he's more "evil" than Clinton. I don't share this view at all. But those like me who were sure Clinton would win do have a real reason to feel disconcerted - something was wrong with the analysis.

    Broadly, I agreed with Julian Assange that Trump couldn't win because he lacked the support of any significant part of the ruling class or inner state. This isn't a general truth, but it is implausible that in the absence of much class struggle, a reactionary who is opposed by the entire ruling class would be elected.

    But most socialists I've read seem to think that's what happened. I don't. Trump expressed the distress of the rural working class, but the farmlands don't rule. An atomized and peripheralized rustbelt working class is not a cohesive political force. It requires the glue of a section of the ruling class and inner state to hold this extremely politically confused coalition together.

    A greater number of monopoly capitalists supported Trump than was apparent. But probably most important, Trump has the support of a section of the inner state whose power is burgeoning: the domestic police. The militarization of the police has increased their social weight, to the point where the FBI can successful attack a 4-star general leading the CIA (Petraus). And when a section of the state apparatus was moved to put its finger on the scale for Trump, it was the FBI. (To great effect, in part due to Clinton's political ineptness and her reflexive retreat to her stock mudslinging.)

    Eighty-four percent of cops support Trump. Cops have become enmeshed in the lives of the poor in America, with drug courts and domestic violence crusades. They are greatly respected by the rural workers they actually oppress.

    The role of the domestic police, from the FBI to the municipal cops, has not to my knowledge been seriously explored in relation to the election. (See "Pseudo-transparency: From the FBI to the State Bars" - http://kanbaroo.blogspot.com/2016/11/interlude-30-pseudo-transparency-from.html )

    If that were the explanations ,shouldn’t have Obama been defeated in 2012?

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  181. @Hibernian
    Mr. Dinh,

    As an island, they can more easily control illegal immigration, but doesn't EU pressure them to allow mor legal immigration? And don't they have castaways, stowaways, and visa overstayers? It's only about 20 miles from Calais to Dover.

    It’s only about 20 miles from Calais to Dover.

    That 20 miles undersea is preventing this from showing up in London:

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  182. @utu
    Yes, Volcker helped people to afford houses by eliminating their jobs. Your alma mater must be proud of you.

    Volcker didn’t kill their jobs. The free trade deals and automation did. I was at a company working on the first painting robots for the auto assembly lines. A lot of people lost a lot of good paying but unhealthy jobs when those robots went in. FYI there was also a mini-NAFTA in place in the form of the maquiladoras. Reagan’s NAFTA just put them on steroids.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquiladora

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  183. @Hibernian
    Mr. Dinh,

    As an island, they can more easily control illegal immigration, but doesn't EU pressure them to allow mor legal immigration? And don't they have castaways, stowaways, and visa overstayers? It's only about 20 miles from Calais to Dover.

    Hi Hibernian,

    I know, personally, people who have walked into Europe, crossing several borders. You can’t walk into England.

    Yes, there are Eastern Europeans all over England. I’ve seen these Poles and others. (I spent 9 months in England in 2005-2006, and have returned three times since.) Polish immigrants did not cause the Brexit reaction. It’s the burgeoning Muslim population that began with the Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

    Seeing what’s happening in Germany caused Brexit.

    Linh

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    Polish immigrants did not cause the Brexit reaction.
     
    Hmm. As far as I can tell (anecdotally, of course) it's exactly the opposite.

    Eastern European low-skill/low-wage immigration caused Brexit. The Pakistani immigration was different, it was skill-based, most people don't object to that.

    Also, the Pakistanis, Jamaicans, etc. from the previous waves of immigration are now locals, they speak without accent. And they are accepted as locals in most places, apart from real rough neighborhoods, like parts of Liverpool.

    , @KA
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/28/britains-850000-polish-citizens-face-backlash-after-brexit-vote/
    summarizes attitudes to Poles.


    850,000 came in less than 10 yrs to UK and have been accused of capturing business including in real estate,constructions,retails ,transport .

    Not only Poles there are other - Romanian,Greek,Bulgarian . Attitudes to them are not wonderful-https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/14/romanian-bulgarian-workers-in-britain

    It is very possible that Pakistanis an Bangladeshis are not liked But that could be due to dress and appearance not due to economic reasons and not due to being on welfare or abusing NHS and not for criminal activities .

    Having said that scapegoating is easier than challenging what cause economic migration and it is much more difficult on intellectual level to identify name and shame the polices that tie economic migration from abroad and economic dislocation at home. I

    In case of rural America the picture is much more confusing - rural America or suburbs of cities to say like Syracuse NY or Springfield IL or Seattle are all white. Still one will find Trump supporters in big numbers They are not talking of immigration They are talking about lack of a life lack of opportunity and lack of future in the current economic frame Add to that insult and attack on their cloistered religious cultural ethos .

    Red States like Dakota or Iowa have less nonwhite faces that NY or IL or MA have but still look to Trump because of something other than terrorism or immigration . It is disconnection ,lack of clear path to get to a safe secure future for their kids and sense of losing the identities under the onslaught of corporate powers . The story is same in Asia and Africa But they are at disadvantages because while no country can rob American of their choices ,America can and have robbed those countries of their choices .
    AND YOU KNOW WHAT THESE AMERICAN HAVE SUPPORTED THOSE CRIMINAL ENTERPRISES FOR LAST 70 YRS .
  184. @Oldeguy
    Mr. Dinh is the most honest, clearest eyed, and shrewdest social commentator I've come across, not only at this site, but at any other. I fear his analysis on this is, as usual, spot on.
    The whole Trump Phenomena always has had, for me, an aura of bogusness.

    Exactly! Thanks.

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  185. One of the best speeches (no foreign policy issues) by Trump (5 min)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crgxgysfoZQ

    I wish it was more than just a campaign speech.

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  186. @Linh Dinh
    Hi Hibernian,

    I know, personally, people who have walked into Europe, crossing several borders. You can't walk into England.

    Yes, there are Eastern Europeans all over England. I've seen these Poles and others. (I spent 9 months in England in 2005-2006, and have returned three times since.) Polish immigrants did not cause the Brexit reaction. It's the burgeoning Muslim population that began with the Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

    Seeing what's happening in Germany caused Brexit.


    Linh

    Polish immigrants did not cause the Brexit reaction.

    Hmm. As far as I can tell (anecdotally, of course) it’s exactly the opposite.

    Eastern European low-skill/low-wage immigration caused Brexit. The Pakistani immigration was different, it was skill-based, most people don’t object to that.

    Also, the Pakistanis, Jamaicans, etc. from the previous waves of immigration are now locals, they speak without accent. And they are accepted as locals in most places, apart from real rough neighborhoods, like parts of Liverpool.

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  187. @Art

    The deep state ushered in Trump because he’s clearly their most useful decoy. As the country hopes in vain, the crooked men behind the curtain will go on with business as usual. Trump is simply an Obama for a different demographic. Nothing will change for the better.

     

    First let’s get it right - it is the “Jewish Deep State.”

    Trump has already fallen to the Jewish Deep State - he has promised to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. This is a major victory for Zionism. All American presidents have resisted that move. All it took was a few hundred million campaign dollars from one Jew or another. Clearly Trump is giving Zionism a giant boost in its agenda to eliminate Palestine.

    As the major owners of America’s assets - the Jews have a big interest is seeing Trump revitalize America’s economy. America’s economic power and place in the world is THEIR power.

    All political arguments in America are between left wing Jews and right wing Jews.

    Trump is somewhere in the middle between the two.

    Art,

    As you’re aware, people come to The Unz Review in order to learn and avoid deception as much as possible. Please bear with my short syllogism here?

    Deception is an act of terror which diminishes human awareness.

    The “Deep Jewish State” employs Deceivers who are deceptively ordained, “whistle blowers.”

    Linh Dinh’s “Trump Ploy” has advanced awareness and helps fight the terror of deception.

    Please look at You Tube video (below) where R.T. interviews John Young of Cryptome.org? You might be aware that, about two weeks (or so) ago & prior to Donald Trump’s victory, Fox News, Sean Hannity interviewed Julian Assange and cleared the latter of all his past Wikileak sins of deception.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wyASvOcqh0

    Post scriptum: Today the gospel reading at St. Ann’s Basilica included the following > 2,000 year old advice offered by Jesus; “Be not deceived.” (sigh) The more one tries t0 repel deception in its sophisticated 21st Century forms, the harder the Main Stream Media (along with Zionized- pastors & priests) strikes back

    Thank you.

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  188. @utu
    Good analogy with Pink Floyd. But it is more subtle than being an agent or not. We do not know what designs THEY have for Trump and Trump does not know either. We do not know who THEY are and most likely he does not know it. Which faction of the Deep State?

    The most important question is to figure out what possibly the Deep State can expect from Trump presidency that they could not get easily form Hillary?

    If for the sake of argument we assume that 9/11 was false flag was perpetrated by the Deep State one could argue that Al Gore administration would be much less conducive for that operation than W's administration that was fully studded with all the neocons you could find in US, Canada and Australia.

    Well, that’s a reasonable point. If Trump is clean, i.e. not “deep state” that doesn’t mean he couldn’t become “deep state” at any time. It’s certainly possible.

    BUT, let’s imagine a hypothetical Trump who somehow managed to “stay clean” or relatively clean, after working for years in that filthy sandbox. IMHO such a “clean” hypothetical Trump would look about like the real Trump we see today.

    Also possible and not inconsistent with the data. We shall see and fairly soon, I think.

    What we DO know is he ain’t Killary, so we may have avoided war with Russia or whoever else the zios want taken out, at least before Valentine’s Day.

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  189. @Linh Dinh
    Hi Hibernian,

    I know, personally, people who have walked into Europe, crossing several borders. You can't walk into England.

    Yes, there are Eastern Europeans all over England. I've seen these Poles and others. (I spent 9 months in England in 2005-2006, and have returned three times since.) Polish immigrants did not cause the Brexit reaction. It's the burgeoning Muslim population that began with the Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

    Seeing what's happening in Germany caused Brexit.


    Linh

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/28/britains-850000-polish-citizens-face-backlash-after-brexit-vote/

    summarizes attitudes to Poles.

    850,000 came in less than 10 yrs to UK and have been accused of capturing business including in real estate,constructions,retails ,transport .

    Not only Poles there are other – Romanian,Greek,Bulgarian . Attitudes to them are not wonderful-https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/14/romanian-bulgarian-workers-in-britain

    It is very possible that Pakistanis an Bangladeshis are not liked But that could be due to dress and appearance not due to economic reasons and not due to being on welfare or abusing NHS and not for criminal activities .

    Having said that scapegoating is easier than challenging what cause economic migration and it is much more difficult on intellectual level to identify name and shame the polices that tie economic migration from abroad and economic dislocation at home. I

    In case of rural America the picture is much more confusing – rural America or suburbs of cities to say like Syracuse NY or Springfield IL or Seattle are all white. Still one will find Trump supporters in big numbers They are not talking of immigration They are talking about lack of a life lack of opportunity and lack of future in the current economic frame Add to that insult and attack on their cloistered religious cultural ethos .

    Red States like Dakota or Iowa have less nonwhite faces that NY or IL or MA have but still look to Trump because of something other than terrorism or immigration . It is disconnection ,lack of clear path to get to a safe secure future for their kids and sense of losing the identities under the onslaught of corporate powers . The story is same in Asia and Africa But they are at disadvantages because while no country can rob American of their choices ,America can and have robbed those countries of their choices .
    AND YOU KNOW WHAT THESE AMERICAN HAVE SUPPORTED THOSE CRIMINAL ENTERPRISES FOR LAST 70 YRS .

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    • Replies: @utu
    "It is very possible that Pakistanis an Bangladeshis are not liked But that could be due to dress and appearance not due to economic reasons and not due to being on welfare or abusing NHS and not for criminal activities ."

    Are you saying that if Poles and Eastern Europeans stopped working and got on welfare and engaged in criminal activities the Brits would be more accepting of them? And a funny dress would help, right?
    , @Linh Dinh
    I'm not suggesting that the Brits love the Polish influx, but it's telling that one of its main anti-immigration groups is called Infidels of Britain. News of 1,400 girls being raped by a Pakistani gang in Rotherham from 1997 to 2013 surely didn't help. Now, you have all these stories of Muslim terrorists and rapists coming from the continent.

    Being there so long, Muslims have carved out many enclaves across England. Go to Leicester, for example, or take the tube to Aldgate East and walk in any direction. Go to Brick Lane.

    London saw an exodus of 600,000 white residents during the first decade of this century.

  190. @KA
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/28/britains-850000-polish-citizens-face-backlash-after-brexit-vote/
    summarizes attitudes to Poles.


    850,000 came in less than 10 yrs to UK and have been accused of capturing business including in real estate,constructions,retails ,transport .

    Not only Poles there are other - Romanian,Greek,Bulgarian . Attitudes to them are not wonderful-https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/14/romanian-bulgarian-workers-in-britain

    It is very possible that Pakistanis an Bangladeshis are not liked But that could be due to dress and appearance not due to economic reasons and not due to being on welfare or abusing NHS and not for criminal activities .

    Having said that scapegoating is easier than challenging what cause economic migration and it is much more difficult on intellectual level to identify name and shame the polices that tie economic migration from abroad and economic dislocation at home. I

    In case of rural America the picture is much more confusing - rural America or suburbs of cities to say like Syracuse NY or Springfield IL or Seattle are all white. Still one will find Trump supporters in big numbers They are not talking of immigration They are talking about lack of a life lack of opportunity and lack of future in the current economic frame Add to that insult and attack on their cloistered religious cultural ethos .

    Red States like Dakota or Iowa have less nonwhite faces that NY or IL or MA have but still look to Trump because of something other than terrorism or immigration . It is disconnection ,lack of clear path to get to a safe secure future for their kids and sense of losing the identities under the onslaught of corporate powers . The story is same in Asia and Africa But they are at disadvantages because while no country can rob American of their choices ,America can and have robbed those countries of their choices .
    AND YOU KNOW WHAT THESE AMERICAN HAVE SUPPORTED THOSE CRIMINAL ENTERPRISES FOR LAST 70 YRS .

    “It is very possible that Pakistanis an Bangladeshis are not liked But that could be due to dress and appearance not due to economic reasons and not due to being on welfare or abusing NHS and not for criminal activities .”

    Are you saying that if Poles and Eastern Europeans stopped working and got on welfare and engaged in criminal activities the Brits would be more accepting of them? And a funny dress would help, right?

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    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
    Hi utu,

    And the most despised Eastern Europeans in England are Gypsies.

    A while back, I wrote about these transplanted Indians.


    Linh
    , @KA
    "Are you saying that if Poles and Eastern Europeans stopped working and got on welfare and engaged in criminal activities the Brits would be more accepting of them? And a funny dress would help, right?
    It depends on how you run business and how you bend the policies. Locals white are on welfare not foreigners. Real estate is owned by rich Chinese , rich Russian and Indian who own best part of London . Often the properties are left unoccupied . London has become more crowded and congested not for sudden influx from Asia but from eastern Europe . Locals nurses and even aspiring physician,police cant afford to live in city . The story is same as it is here .Polish are doing good job but is not appreciated while their occasional wrongdoings get much coverage . I have nothing against Eastern Europeans I am talking of the anger against them as well as Asians but the anger is misplaced misdirected.
  191. Even Trump election was spontaneous and or unexpected event I really doubt “‘deep state”‘ will remain passive, after all their progressive political/cultural–$structural hegemony seems unstoppable.

    Even…

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  192. @KA
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/28/britains-850000-polish-citizens-face-backlash-after-brexit-vote/
    summarizes attitudes to Poles.


    850,000 came in less than 10 yrs to UK and have been accused of capturing business including in real estate,constructions,retails ,transport .

    Not only Poles there are other - Romanian,Greek,Bulgarian . Attitudes to them are not wonderful-https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/14/romanian-bulgarian-workers-in-britain

    It is very possible that Pakistanis an Bangladeshis are not liked But that could be due to dress and appearance not due to economic reasons and not due to being on welfare or abusing NHS and not for criminal activities .

    Having said that scapegoating is easier than challenging what cause economic migration and it is much more difficult on intellectual level to identify name and shame the polices that tie economic migration from abroad and economic dislocation at home. I

    In case of rural America the picture is much more confusing - rural America or suburbs of cities to say like Syracuse NY or Springfield IL or Seattle are all white. Still one will find Trump supporters in big numbers They are not talking of immigration They are talking about lack of a life lack of opportunity and lack of future in the current economic frame Add to that insult and attack on their cloistered religious cultural ethos .

    Red States like Dakota or Iowa have less nonwhite faces that NY or IL or MA have but still look to Trump because of something other than terrorism or immigration . It is disconnection ,lack of clear path to get to a safe secure future for their kids and sense of losing the identities under the onslaught of corporate powers . The story is same in Asia and Africa But they are at disadvantages because while no country can rob American of their choices ,America can and have robbed those countries of their choices .
    AND YOU KNOW WHAT THESE AMERICAN HAVE SUPPORTED THOSE CRIMINAL ENTERPRISES FOR LAST 70 YRS .

    I’m not suggesting that the Brits love the Polish influx, but it’s telling that one of its main anti-immigration groups is called Infidels of Britain. News of 1,400 girls being raped by a Pakistani gang in Rotherham from 1997 to 2013 surely didn’t help. Now, you have all these stories of Muslim terrorists and rapists coming from the continent.

    Being there so long, Muslims have carved out many enclaves across England. Go to Leicester, for example, or take the tube to Aldgate East and walk in any direction. Go to Brick Lane.

    London saw an exodus of 600,000 white residents during the first decade of this century.

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    • Replies: @KA
    Yes you are right and those ghettos look conspicuous not because of criminal activities or taking jobs away illegally but because of dress and appearances . In 90 there was similar anger at Sikh enclave in London.
    England has to figure out how it sorts its peculiar situation . Brexit was an expression of pent up economic dislocation I think Brexit is good for rest of the world . British hegemony will vanish
    Ask an Irsih nurse and Wales seeking apartment for rent in 1980 ,you would have heard same complaints against them .

    In parts of America where Trump gets and got his support from ,peopllr don't have jobs and they don't see non- white faces either . Go to an Walmart in Ithaca of NY ,you won't see brown or black or Latino face. Same is true for rest of the entirerty of thecRed States . What does it tell ? Both Republican and Democrats want to draw wrong conclusion from the election- its about culture and religion and gender and immigration. They all have some roles but the election was a referendum on war,economy,corruption terrorism .
    But even explaing those will require facing the truth about destructive foreign and economic policies

    Your comment about Gypsies capture it all Gyspies are poor visible powerless and numerous . But they are not destroying the economies . They are not looting the country .
    , @TelfoedJohn
    UK resident here. The attitude towards Pakistanis differs around the UK. In multicultural London, they are more tolerated, and provide the national dish - curry. The East End has a mix of young millenials and Pakistanis. Even the mayor is Pakistani.

    Other areas outside London, which were previously mono -ethnic English, do not have a good relationship with Pakistanis. Perhaps the capital has more media eyes on it, so the local Pakistanis don't get up to mischief.
  193. @utu
    "It is very possible that Pakistanis an Bangladeshis are not liked But that could be due to dress and appearance not due to economic reasons and not due to being on welfare or abusing NHS and not for criminal activities ."

    Are you saying that if Poles and Eastern Europeans stopped working and got on welfare and engaged in criminal activities the Brits would be more accepting of them? And a funny dress would help, right?

    Hi utu,

    And the most despised Eastern Europeans in England are Gypsies.

    A while back, I wrote about these transplanted Indians.

    Linh

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    • Replies: @utu
    Is it possible that Brits have paternalistic attitude towards Jamaican, Pakistanis and other subjects of imperial Britain while Poles and Eastern Europeans evoke in Brit hostility or at least ambivalence they always felt towards the continental Europe? Would this mean that white Europeans to Brits are more threatening?

    I have seen some reports about misdeeds done by Gypsies in the UK in which they never were referred to as Gypsies or Romany but as Rumanians, Slovaks or Poles.
  194. @Authenticjazzman
    " Jews are people with arrested brain function".

    Yeah sure and with this "arrested brain function" they composed the greatest modern music known to mankind : Gershwin, Kern, Berlin, Styne, Hammerstein, hundreds more, which myself as a jazz player have come to recognize as magnificent works of art.

    I can recall a Hebrew doctor in our Detroit neighborhood who, after the war in which he had been a combat medico with all of the horrors involved, who then treated the poor goy patients for free.

    Of course the other side of the coin was the Jewish guy who took over a gas station at which I worked my ass off eight to ten hours a day after school, who then paid me twentyfive cents an hour for my first month instead of the promised dollar per hour.

    So there are many sides to this issue.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years, and pro jazz player.

    Art: “Jews are people with arrested brain function”.

    Yeah sure and with this “arrested brain function” they composed the greatest modern music known to mankind : Gershwin, Kern, Berlin, Styne, Hammerstein, hundreds more, which myself as a jazz player have come to recognize as magnificent works of art.

    What happened – those Jews wrote of love between men and women – they made joyful beautiful music – they wrote music that tickled the mind.

    Sadly, the Jew entertainment industry of today brings us tribal hateful rap – it exacerbates division and hate. The song of today is screaming – its substitutes sentiment and good lyrics with loud.

    What happened was Israel. Gershwin, Kern, and Berlin loved America – they wrote music for an optimistic buoyant people. Their music was culturally Western in flavor – its tempo was upbeat – even when sad, there was hope in rhyme and rhythm.

    What has happened is that Israel has unleashed the dark side of Judaism. Jews are no longer Western – they have become totally Jewish.

    Too bad for them.

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    "Too bad for them."

    One thing I'm feeling 'kinda non-buoyant about is how people are not making comment on L.D.'s important mentioning of Bill Clinton & Donald Trump's dalliances with Jeffrey Epstein.

    Come Spring 2017, might Pope Francis make a quick pastoral trip to the Caribbean and advise a Wall be built around "The Lolita Express" -- paid for by the Clinton Foundation?
  195. @utu
    "It is very possible that Pakistanis an Bangladeshis are not liked But that could be due to dress and appearance not due to economic reasons and not due to being on welfare or abusing NHS and not for criminal activities ."

    Are you saying that if Poles and Eastern Europeans stopped working and got on welfare and engaged in criminal activities the Brits would be more accepting of them? And a funny dress would help, right?

    “Are you saying that if Poles and Eastern Europeans stopped working and got on welfare and engaged in criminal activities the Brits would be more accepting of them? And a funny dress would help, right?
    It depends on how you run business and how you bend the policies. Locals white are on welfare not foreigners. Real estate is owned by rich Chinese , rich Russian and Indian who own best part of London . Often the properties are left unoccupied . London has become more crowded and congested not for sudden influx from Asia but from eastern Europe . Locals nurses and even aspiring physician,police cant afford to live in city . The story is same as it is here .Polish are doing good job but is not appreciated while their occasional wrongdoings get much coverage . I have nothing against Eastern Europeans I am talking of the anger against them as well as Asians but the anger is misplaced misdirected.

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  196. @Linh Dinh
    Hi utu,

    And the most despised Eastern Europeans in England are Gypsies.

    A while back, I wrote about these transplanted Indians.


    Linh

    Is it possible that Brits have paternalistic attitude towards Jamaican, Pakistanis and other subjects of imperial Britain while Poles and Eastern Europeans evoke in Brit hostility or at least ambivalence they always felt towards the continental Europe? Would this mean that white Europeans to Brits are more threatening?

    I have seen some reports about misdeeds done by Gypsies in the UK in which they never were referred to as Gypsies or Romany but as Rumanians, Slovaks or Poles.

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    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
    Hi utu,

    While in college, I had two British roommates during two different years, and one them introduced me to the term "Paki-bashing." I seriously doubt your average Brit feels condescending, protective and eternally guilty towards South Asians. At least, not anymore.

    Yes, Poles, Romanians, Czechs and Slovaks are quite pissed off at being blamed for Gypsy misbehavior all over the continent.


    Linh
  197. @Linh Dinh
    I'm not suggesting that the Brits love the Polish influx, but it's telling that one of its main anti-immigration groups is called Infidels of Britain. News of 1,400 girls being raped by a Pakistani gang in Rotherham from 1997 to 2013 surely didn't help. Now, you have all these stories of Muslim terrorists and rapists coming from the continent.

    Being there so long, Muslims have carved out many enclaves across England. Go to Leicester, for example, or take the tube to Aldgate East and walk in any direction. Go to Brick Lane.

    London saw an exodus of 600,000 white residents during the first decade of this century.

    Yes you are right and those ghettos look conspicuous not because of criminal activities or taking jobs away illegally but because of dress and appearances . In 90 there was similar anger at Sikh enclave in London.
    England has to figure out how it sorts its peculiar situation . Brexit was an expression of pent up economic dislocation I think Brexit is good for rest of the world . British hegemony will vanish
    Ask an Irsih nurse and Wales seeking apartment for rent in 1980 ,you would have heard same complaints against them .

    In parts of America where Trump gets and got his support from ,peopllr don’t have jobs and they don’t see non- white faces either . Go to an Walmart in Ithaca of NY ,you won’t see brown or black or Latino face. Same is true for rest of the entirerty of thecRed States . What does it tell ? Both Republican and Democrats want to draw wrong conclusion from the election- its about culture and religion and gender and immigration. They all have some roles but the election was a referendum on war,economy,corruption terrorism .
    But even explaing those will require facing the truth about destructive foreign and economic policies

    Your comment about Gypsies capture it all Gyspies are poor visible powerless and numerous . But they are not destroying the economies . They are not looting the country .

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    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
    Hi KA,

    Regarding Poles, South Asians and Gypsies in the UK, we've been talking about popular perception, not deep political analysis.

    As for the presence of non-whites in rural America, there are quite a few, actually. I've crossed the country several times in the past six years and saw Latinos in all rural areas. White Trump voters in these places certainly know about them from direct experience.

    Tiny Hazelton, PA made national news for introducing laws against illegal immigrants. It got sued by the federal government and lost.

    I visited Pasco, Washington, and saw Hispanics everywhere. They're in the majority there.

    Rural America is not lily-white. Lewiston, ME, population 36,592, has 7,000 Somalis.


    Linh

    , @utu
    You try to make a good point (I suspect) but then you blow it up by making incongruous with rest of your arguments points. Like the one about Gypsies.

    Gypsies are disliked not because they are visible and powerless but because of their reputation which is well deserved. They will loot the country if you let them. Their culture is incompatible with ours, though Christian societies learned to live with them and tolerate them (tolerate in terms of "we can stand them") w/o much of persecution. (Except for the Nazis who thought that cultural issues have biological roots just like many iSteve followers here.)

    "the election was a referendum on war,economy,corruption terrorism " - I agree with you or at least I want very much to believe this to be true. But I do not exclude issues of culture, race, etc. Because culture is very important and nobody sane wants foreigners to come to screw with it, right?

    Personally I am all against foreign culture. I do not want diversity in my home. If I were the UN I would make the whole of Japan the World Park of Japanese Culture and would not allow foreigners to live there. Japan here is just an example. However anglo-saxon settler countries (ISA, Canada, Australia, NZ) could stay what they are, but their model should not be impose on others like Japan or Slovakia or Iceland.
  198. @utu
    Is it possible that Brits have paternalistic attitude towards Jamaican, Pakistanis and other subjects of imperial Britain while Poles and Eastern Europeans evoke in Brit hostility or at least ambivalence they always felt towards the continental Europe? Would this mean that white Europeans to Brits are more threatening?

    I have seen some reports about misdeeds done by Gypsies in the UK in which they never were referred to as Gypsies or Romany but as Rumanians, Slovaks or Poles.

    Hi utu,

    While in college, I had two British roommates during two different years, and one them introduced me to the term “Paki-bashing.” I seriously doubt your average Brit feels condescending, protective and eternally guilty towards South Asians. At least, not anymore.

    Yes, Poles, Romanians, Czechs and Slovaks are quite pissed off at being blamed for Gypsy misbehavior all over the continent.

    Linh

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    • Replies: @utu
    So, do you think that it's the PC code that keeps Brits from complaining about Jamaicans and Pakistanis while Eastern Europeans because they are white are not protected by this code?
  199. @Linh Dinh
    Hi utu,

    While in college, I had two British roommates during two different years, and one them introduced me to the term "Paki-bashing." I seriously doubt your average Brit feels condescending, protective and eternally guilty towards South Asians. At least, not anymore.

    Yes, Poles, Romanians, Czechs and Slovaks are quite pissed off at being blamed for Gypsy misbehavior all over the continent.


    Linh

    So, do you think that it’s the PC code that keeps Brits from complaining about Jamaicans and Pakistanis while Eastern Europeans because they are white are not protected by this code?

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  200. @Linh Dinh
    I'm not suggesting that the Brits love the Polish influx, but it's telling that one of its main anti-immigration groups is called Infidels of Britain. News of 1,400 girls being raped by a Pakistani gang in Rotherham from 1997 to 2013 surely didn't help. Now, you have all these stories of Muslim terrorists and rapists coming from the continent.

    Being there so long, Muslims have carved out many enclaves across England. Go to Leicester, for example, or take the tube to Aldgate East and walk in any direction. Go to Brick Lane.

    London saw an exodus of 600,000 white residents during the first decade of this century.

    UK resident here. The attitude towards Pakistanis differs around the UK. In multicultural London, they are more tolerated, and provide the national dish – curry. The East End has a mix of young millenials and Pakistanis. Even the mayor is Pakistani.

    Other areas outside London, which were previously mono -ethnic English, do not have a good relationship with Pakistanis. Perhaps the capital has more media eyes on it, so the local Pakistanis don’t get up to mischief.

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    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
    Hi TelfoedJohn,

    What about the resentment against Poles and other Eastern Europeans? How strong is it, and how does it compare to negative attitudes towards South Asians and Muslims?


    Linh

  201. @KA
    Yes you are right and those ghettos look conspicuous not because of criminal activities or taking jobs away illegally but because of dress and appearances . In 90 there was similar anger at Sikh enclave in London.
    England has to figure out how it sorts its peculiar situation . Brexit was an expression of pent up economic dislocation I think Brexit is good for rest of the world . British hegemony will vanish
    Ask an Irsih nurse and Wales seeking apartment for rent in 1980 ,you would have heard same complaints against them .

    In parts of America where Trump gets and got his support from ,peopllr don't have jobs and they don't see non- white faces either . Go to an Walmart in Ithaca of NY ,you won't see brown or black or Latino face. Same is true for rest of the entirerty of thecRed States . What does it tell ? Both Republican and Democrats want to draw wrong conclusion from the election- its about culture and religion and gender and immigration. They all have some roles but the election was a referendum on war,economy,corruption terrorism .
    But even explaing those will require facing the truth about destructive foreign and economic policies

    Your comment about Gypsies capture it all Gyspies are poor visible powerless and numerous . But they are not destroying the economies . They are not looting the country .

    Hi KA,

    Regarding Poles, South Asians and Gypsies in the UK, we’ve been talking about popular perception, not deep political analysis.

    As for the presence of non-whites in rural America, there are quite a few, actually. I’ve crossed the country several times in the past six years and saw Latinos in all rural areas. White Trump voters in these places certainly know about them from direct experience.

    Tiny Hazelton, PA made national news for introducing laws against illegal immigrants. It got sued by the federal government and lost.

    I visited Pasco, Washington, and saw Hispanics everywhere. They’re in the majority there.

    Rural America is not lily-white. Lewiston, ME, population 36,592, has 7,000 Somalis.

    Linh

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  202. @KA
    Yes you are right and those ghettos look conspicuous not because of criminal activities or taking jobs away illegally but because of dress and appearances . In 90 there was similar anger at Sikh enclave in London.
    England has to figure out how it sorts its peculiar situation . Brexit was an expression of pent up economic dislocation I think Brexit is good for rest of the world . British hegemony will vanish
    Ask an Irsih nurse and Wales seeking apartment for rent in 1980 ,you would have heard same complaints against them .

    In parts of America where Trump gets and got his support from ,peopllr don't have jobs and they don't see non- white faces either . Go to an Walmart in Ithaca of NY ,you won't see brown or black or Latino face. Same is true for rest of the entirerty of thecRed States . What does it tell ? Both Republican and Democrats want to draw wrong conclusion from the election- its about culture and religion and gender and immigration. They all have some roles but the election was a referendum on war,economy,corruption terrorism .
    But even explaing those will require facing the truth about destructive foreign and economic policies

    Your comment about Gypsies capture it all Gyspies are poor visible powerless and numerous . But they are not destroying the economies . They are not looting the country .

    You try to make a good point (I suspect) but then you blow it up by making incongruous with rest of your arguments points. Like the one about Gypsies.

    Gypsies are disliked not because they are visible and powerless but because of their reputation which is well deserved. They will loot the country if you let them. Their culture is incompatible with ours, though Christian societies learned to live with them and tolerate them (tolerate in terms of “we can stand them”) w/o much of persecution. (Except for the Nazis who thought that cultural issues have biological roots just like many iSteve followers here.)

    “the election was a referendum on war,economy,corruption terrorism ” – I agree with you or at least I want very much to believe this to be true. But I do not exclude issues of culture, race, etc. Because culture is very important and nobody sane wants foreigners to come to screw with it, right?

    Personally I am all against foreign culture. I do not want diversity in my home. If I were the UN I would make the whole of Japan the World Park of Japanese Culture and would not allow foreigners to live there. Japan here is just an example. However anglo-saxon settler countries (ISA, Canada, Australia, NZ) could stay what they are, but their model should not be impose on others like Japan or Slovakia or Iceland.

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    • Replies: @KA
    I see yu are making some culturally appropriate observations about Gypsies . But you wander off into what should be rather what the reality is That reality was not imposed on US or UK Immigrants have come to US from China India Arab Pakistan Vietnam Korea and Latin America legally Same is true for UK and France. Illegal immigrations are illegal and should be stopped and undone but those people who have come legally ,they have every right to maintain their cultures and religion . A demagogue can try to undo it But the result wont be appreciated and the picture wont be pretty when the dust settles down . You have home and you have your country but they aren't same thing .
  203. @TelfoedJohn
    UK resident here. The attitude towards Pakistanis differs around the UK. In multicultural London, they are more tolerated, and provide the national dish - curry. The East End has a mix of young millenials and Pakistanis. Even the mayor is Pakistani.

    Other areas outside London, which were previously mono -ethnic English, do not have a good relationship with Pakistanis. Perhaps the capital has more media eyes on it, so the local Pakistanis don't get up to mischief.

    Hi TelfoedJohn,

    What about the resentment against Poles and other Eastern Europeans? How strong is it, and how does it compare to negative attitudes towards South Asians and Muslims?

    Linh

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    • Replies: @Randal
    I don't think you can easily generalise on a national basis or across all immigrant groups. Attitudes differ from one part of Britain to another towards any particular grouping, mostly seemingly according to the characteristics and numbers of that broad group who have settled in the region.

    When I was younger, the big influx was of South Asians. That was the time when "Paki-bashing" was an issue, with indigenous white thugs and thugs from the previous wave of black immigration finding that Asian immigrants were generally soft targets. I think that might have been because that wave was largely composed of middle class Asians, especially those who were being expelled from African countries. More recent waves of South Asian immigrants, together with Somalis and other North African groups, have been a tougher prospect, as well as being much more numerous, and the second generations have grown up more able to take care of themselves (and more overtly criminal).

    In those days, islam was simply not on anybody's radar domestically, whereas of course there is now a lot 0f hostility towards it.

    The Eastern Europeans came recently, and were only really a problem in areas where they settled in overwhelming numbers, or where they were more from the more southerly cultures of Eastern Europe. I find there's quite a lot of respect for Poles as a group amongst working class folk in my area, where they are seen as hard workers, and the hostility is directed towards more state benefits oriented groups. On the other hand, you will easily come across individuals with strong hostility towards Poles, perhaps for personal experience reasons, and perhaps that's more common in other regions.
    , @TelfoedJohn
    Resentment against Poles in areas in areas of relative poverty is high. For instance in Boston, Lincolnshire, where there was a sudden influx of Poles. They didn't integrate much. Who can blame them- who would integrate with poverty when they are escaping it? I think Boston had the highest vote for Brexit. In affluent areas, of course there is no resentment.

    It's not really a question of Poles though, it's a question of the EU. British people moving to Spain do the same thing - stay within their own culture, watch English football, go to English pubs.

    https://youtu.be/EUhBw7190EY

    With the EU, it's very easy to go across national borders but stay within you own culture. I think the less effort it is to get to another country, then the less you feel the need to take that new country seriously. To integrate. It's like the difference between renting and owning property. In areas where you have short-term tenants, then the houses will be uncared for. The only person who cares is the landlord (or the government in this analogy).

    Resentment against South Asians fits this pattern. Not much resentment against Indians / Hindus, but some against Pakistanis / Muslims. Despite the proximity of their geographic origin, they occupy different ends of the achievement / education / criminality spectrum.
  204. @Art

    Art: “Jews are people with arrested brain function”.

    Yeah sure and with this “arrested brain function” they composed the greatest modern music known to mankind : Gershwin, Kern, Berlin, Styne, Hammerstein, hundreds more, which myself as a jazz player have come to recognize as magnificent works of art.

     

    What happened - those Jews wrote of love between men and women - they made joyful beautiful music - they wrote music that tickled the mind.

    Sadly, the Jew entertainment industry of today brings us tribal hateful rap - it exacerbates division and hate. The song of today is screaming - its substitutes sentiment and good lyrics with loud.

    What happened was Israel. Gershwin, Kern, and Berlin loved America - they wrote music for an optimistic buoyant people. Their music was culturally Western in flavor - its tempo was upbeat - even when sad, there was hope in rhyme and rhythm.

    What has happened is that Israel has unleashed the dark side of Judaism. Jews are no longer Western - they have become totally Jewish.

    Too bad for them.

    “Too bad for them.”

    One thing I’m feeling ‘kinda non-buoyant about is how people are not making comment on L.D.’s important mentioning of Bill Clinton & Donald Trump’s dalliances with Jeffrey Epstein.

    Come Spring 2017, might Pope Francis make a quick pastoral trip to the Caribbean and advise a Wall be built around “The Lolita Express” — paid for by the Clinton Foundation?

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    Come Spring 2017, might Pope Francis make a quick pastoral trip to the Caribbean and advise a Wall be built around “The Lolita Express” — paid for by the Clinton Foundation?

    Ho hmm - Zionist Zombie media hiding rich bad boy Big Jews - when will it end?
  205. @utu
    You try to make a good point (I suspect) but then you blow it up by making incongruous with rest of your arguments points. Like the one about Gypsies.

    Gypsies are disliked not because they are visible and powerless but because of their reputation which is well deserved. They will loot the country if you let them. Their culture is incompatible with ours, though Christian societies learned to live with them and tolerate them (tolerate in terms of "we can stand them") w/o much of persecution. (Except for the Nazis who thought that cultural issues have biological roots just like many iSteve followers here.)

    "the election was a referendum on war,economy,corruption terrorism " - I agree with you or at least I want very much to believe this to be true. But I do not exclude issues of culture, race, etc. Because culture is very important and nobody sane wants foreigners to come to screw with it, right?

    Personally I am all against foreign culture. I do not want diversity in my home. If I were the UN I would make the whole of Japan the World Park of Japanese Culture and would not allow foreigners to live there. Japan here is just an example. However anglo-saxon settler countries (ISA, Canada, Australia, NZ) could stay what they are, but their model should not be impose on others like Japan or Slovakia or Iceland.

    I see yu are making some culturally appropriate observations about Gypsies . But you wander off into what should be rather what the reality is That reality was not imposed on US or UK Immigrants have come to US from China India Arab Pakistan Vietnam Korea and Latin America legally Same is true for UK and France. Illegal immigrations are illegal and should be stopped and undone but those people who have come legally ,they have every right to maintain their cultures and religion . A demagogue can try to undo it But the result wont be appreciated and the picture wont be pretty when the dust settles down . You have home and you have your country but they aren’t same thing .

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    Now I see where are you coming from.

    "they have every right to maintain their cultures and religion " - only if the activities and behaviors are legal in country they moved in. And if some legal activities become disruptive because of abuse by immigrants the host society have a right to delegalize them and restrict the rights of immigrants.

    To the legality of immigration the host country can attach conditions in order to promote assimilation. So, the immigrants have limited right until they obtain the full right citizenship. The residence period can be extended as kind of apprenticeship until you graduate to become a citizen. But while you are apprentice you are subject to deportation if you violate conditions of the contract.

    Basically I have no problem if the host country puts condition for example on religion for the immigrants: you can come and you can stay but within, say 3 years you must convert to host country dominant religion.

    So if some potential immigrant during an interview states "I want to have every right to maintain my cultures and religion when in your country" I would consider it as an indication of a bad attitude that would make potential assimilation of this petitioning client harder and would recommend visa denial.
    , @British
    In fact, the west idea is the same as in all human societies: national identity is transmitted through biological parentage. The idea that the Europeans should accept the non-white immigrants because of his values is not a west ideology is a Jewish activist discourse.
  206. Then why is main stream media still bashing and slandering his persona??, not buying it

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  207. @KA
    I see yu are making some culturally appropriate observations about Gypsies . But you wander off into what should be rather what the reality is That reality was not imposed on US or UK Immigrants have come to US from China India Arab Pakistan Vietnam Korea and Latin America legally Same is true for UK and France. Illegal immigrations are illegal and should be stopped and undone but those people who have come legally ,they have every right to maintain their cultures and religion . A demagogue can try to undo it But the result wont be appreciated and the picture wont be pretty when the dust settles down . You have home and you have your country but they aren't same thing .

    Now I see where are you coming from.

    “they have every right to maintain their cultures and religion ” – only if the activities and behaviors are legal in country they moved in. And if some legal activities become disruptive because of abuse by immigrants the host society have a right to delegalize them and restrict the rights of immigrants.

    To the legality of immigration the host country can attach conditions in order to promote assimilation. So, the immigrants have limited right until they obtain the full right citizenship. The residence period can be extended as kind of apprenticeship until you graduate to become a citizen. But while you are apprentice you are subject to deportation if you violate conditions of the contract.

    Basically I have no problem if the host country puts condition for example on religion for the immigrants: you can come and you can stay but within, say 3 years you must convert to host country dominant religion.

    So if some potential immigrant during an interview states “I want to have every right to maintain my cultures and religion when in your country” I would consider it as an indication of a bad attitude that would make potential assimilation of this petitioning client harder and would recommend visa denial.

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    So if some potential immigrant during an interview states “I want to have every right to maintain my cultures and religion when in your country” I would consider it as an indication of a bad attitude that would make potential assimilation of this petitioning client harder and would recommend visa denial.
     
    I'm not sure about this one. Becoming a citizen while maintaining a separate culture and identity is multiculturalism - the present USA.

    The historic answer was some kind of "foreign resident status". For example Jews have traditionally wanted to maintain their culture and religion and not intermarry with Gentiles despite living for centuries in countries such as Austria, Poland , Hungary, Germany etc. The preference was a "little Israel" in each country so their true status was "long term foreign resident" with separate Jewish neighborhoods in most European cities.

    There was usually no question of them joining the administration/general society although this did change with the nationalist and socialist movements of the late 19th century, and was a big factor along with other stresses that eventually destroyed the "Belle Époque" and gave us the catastrophe of the 20th century (e.g. in 1912, one out of three high school students in Vienna was a religious Jew, 40% of medical students were Jewish etc. displacing the traditionally German middle class - See Brigitte Hamann )

    , @britishgirl
    I do not want non-Whites to assimilate in White countries. That leads to interbreeding and genetic degeneration. These people have their own lands and their own cultures, and they replace themselves with high fecundity more quickly than we can let them in. Keep White countries White.

    What many well-intention Europeans (and the diaspora) who support immigration stops need to understand is "assimilation" or "integration" are NOT solutions, it's genetic destruction. Only working to ensure the most homogenous nation possible is the solution.
  208. Has a realistic opinion been formed why Trump went hard on the birther issue?

    What possessed this man to charge hard against the magic negro? I am hazard a guess….

    Trump was watching some Jeremiah Wright videos…….”American chickens coming home to roost”.

    He saw what a creep Obama was. Not blinded by media hype?

    The unpopular stance of birtherism?

    What did Trump dislike about Obama enough to question his birthright? No way skin color has a damn thing to do with this.

    He saw a flawed American. Trumps mind is hard to figure.

    Trump became a hater of Obama early on. His keen eye for phonies were born out.

    “I voted white guilt 08″……………#never again

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    Total coverup of Obama past.
    , @Sam J.
    "...What possessed this man to charge hard against the magic negro? I am hazard a guess…"

    Call me crazy but maybe the reason Trump thought Obama was a Kenyan was Obama's book jacket sleeve said he was Kenyan. Here's a picture of it.

    https://usahitman.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Obama-Page.png
  209. @Chuck Orloski
    "Too bad for them."

    One thing I'm feeling 'kinda non-buoyant about is how people are not making comment on L.D.'s important mentioning of Bill Clinton & Donald Trump's dalliances with Jeffrey Epstein.

    Come Spring 2017, might Pope Francis make a quick pastoral trip to the Caribbean and advise a Wall be built around "The Lolita Express" -- paid for by the Clinton Foundation?

    Come Spring 2017, might Pope Francis make a quick pastoral trip to the Caribbean and advise a Wall be built around “The Lolita Express” — paid for by the Clinton Foundation?

    Ho hmm – Zionist Zombie media hiding rich bad boy Big Jews – when will it end?

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    "Zionist Zombie media hiding rich bad boy Big Jew -- when will it end."

    Art,

    For decades I have studied the works of Solzhenitsyn. Please read the following paragraph form his essay "Repentance and Self Limitation in the Life of Nations."

    "We cannot convert the kingdom of universal falsehood into a kingdom of universal truth by even the cleverest and most skillfully contrived economic and social reforms: these are the wrong building blocks." (From book, "Under the Rubble."

    Alexander Solzhenitsyn placed great hope in the painful (building-block) process of "repentance" undertaken by both citizens and nations at large. Based upon such Russian Orthodox elixir, our bastard Zionist Zombies will enjoy a long inglorious run until the inevitable end of their "clever & skillful" lies.

    Must go an do my am school bus run! Thank you.
  210. @Stephen R. Diamond

    The “military industrial complex” that Eisenhower outed would nowdays be considered part of the Deep State, as would the CIA that sabotaged a US-Soviet movement toward detente, which Eisenhower was very enthusiastic about, with the U2 incident.
     
    We can also mention as antecedent terms C. Wright Mills's power elite. The big change today is that the domestic police have become an important part of the deep state - and the base in that inner state for Trump. (See previous post.)

    “The big change today is that the domestic police have become an important part of the deep state – and the base in that inner state for Trump”

    Whatever one makes of “Deep State”, domestic police as cog cannot be denied and it is probably part of the one percent’s grand plan. But qua “police” a cog, that is, a passive element, to be ordered about, propagandized, and as customers for politicizing and militarization.

    Security is a bit larger as a category, easily including various mercenary outfits like Blackwater that were gangbusters under Bush and are still going strong, if more undercover. Again in favor of the cog aspect, Blackwater also had liaison and training programs with a host of domestic police forces.

    But even that reaches back in origins to Vietnam.

    In favor of your argument, one might also introduce Hoover’s FBI and the various Red Squads as historical precendents, which had its beginnings in the immediate afteryears of World War I.

    What one is getting at here is–as with “Deep State” itself, is it not so much a change as a change of names?

    The reference to “power elite” is also apropos in that context. Why such a rush into what is after all a calque on Turkish to rename what has been around for many, many decades?

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  211. @bart
    Has a realistic opinion been formed why Trump went hard on the birther issue?

    What possessed this man to charge hard against the magic negro? I am hazard a guess....

    Trump was watching some Jeremiah Wright videos......."American chickens coming home to roost".

    He saw what a creep Obama was. Not blinded by media hype?

    The unpopular stance of birtherism?

    What did Trump dislike about Obama enough to question his birthright? No way skin color has a damn thing to do with this.

    He saw a flawed American. Trumps mind is hard to figure.

    Trump became a hater of Obama early on. His keen eye for phonies were born out.

    "I voted white guilt 08"...............#never again

    Total coverup of Obama past.

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  212. So is Trump supposed to have been in on this all along? Or do you think they just decided to go with him at some point without him knowing?

    Who would have predicted his popularity before the primaries?

    Whoever owns the media ordered for him to be constantly trashed so that the voters would like him more?

    hmmmm

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  213. @Sam J.
    I think a lot of what Linh Dinh says is correct but I don't believe that Trump is a ringer for the Jews. I think Trump is just what he says he is. I think Trump hung around a lot of Jews because that's what you do if you want to get ahead in New York. If you're a fish you swim in water. Just the way it is. I think the Jews actively cultivate people like Trump. Aggressive up and comers.

    I believe Trump ran as a lark. I do believe that he believes all the talking points that he brought up during the election. He's been saying a lot of them for decades and they're mostly common sense anyways for an independent person who's livelihood doesn't depend on political donors. I don't think he thought he would win but as a competitive guy once it looked like he could he pushed on through. I also believe that Hillary cheated BIG time but it just wasn't enough. I bet the actual vote was MUCH higher for Trump.

    Now there's a struggle. The neo-cons are doing all they can to place people in top positions. Trump will have to choose and it will be difficult. He doesn't have a Rolodex of intellectual gov. heavy hitters that's not filled with neo-cons. They've taken over the state recently. It's going to be tough to find people. Anyone with good sense in the past decade that didn't want to go along with their program has most likely decided that they were not going into politics and are in some other field. He needs to call in non politicians and they're just have to wing it. It will mean a lot of false steps and be a little disorganized but it will eventually mean a better America.

    If Trump wanted to he could roll all these bastards up. 9-11 is a big glaring fuck up that they made. All he has to do is point to building#7. Build#7 is impossible to explain without some sort of demo. Impossible.

    He would have to watch his back. If I was in his place before I talked about 9-11 I would fire all of the top 10% of every agency in the US government related to security. Publicly declare that it's their job to see what is obvious and that they're not fit to run things as any fool can see building #7 was demoed. I would also ditch all the secret service as I assume they're compromised and bring in special forces to guard him while new secret service people are trained.

    A lot of the deep state is really just a good ole boys network. They do each other favors and look the other way. I also believe that the ones in the "official" deep state (ODS) are all compromised with sex with children or some other initiation. This could be used to attack them as they have records somewhere of this. There are plenty of people at the lower levels that are corrupt but I'll bet the worst (ODS) are somewhat isolated from the average CIA, NSA and etc. worker. The average ones would back Trump 100% and wish only the best for our country.

    This is truly a magic moment. The Jews, the neo-cons, the deep state, all them really have their asses hanging out. They've done a lot of stupid stuff because no one has challenged them in decades and anyone who does they just kill. There's tons of info on stupid crimes they've done. The only way they've been able to do them is they're the government so the go free. The evidence is still there in numerous places.

    It's also likely that a great deal of them are psychopaths. Psychopaths tend to keep pushing if they don't get reined in. They always get in trouble eventually because they don't understand people as well as they think they do.

    I have a theory that the 250 or so year life of Empires is because it takes about that amount of time for the psychopaths to work their way up the chain of government. Once they get there the country rapidly falls apart due to their stupidity.

    “I have a theory that the 250 or so year life of Empires is because it takes about that amount of time for the psychopaths to work their way up the chain of government. Once they get there the country rapidly falls apart due to their stupidity.”

    Good stuff, and likely something like this is very true. Probably applies not just to empires but to countries as well.

    The connection between psychopathy and the ruling elite of any country is a serious one and has never been properly studied, which would be hard to do.

    It’s the old adage that those who want to rule shouldn’t be allower near power. Power should only be given to those who don’t want it.

    Tolstoy thought all elites are always the most psychopathic element of every society, and I strongly suspect he was right.

    Our modern democracies were clearly designed to give power to those who lust for it but also to pit various psychopathic factions against each other in the hopes that this would ensure stability.

    It didn’t work, the psychopaths are just colluding.

    Well, maybe the next advance in political science will address the psychopath issue and develop ways to deliver power into the hands of the reluctant and screen out those eager for it.

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    ''The connection between psychopathy and the ruling elite of any country is a serious one and has never been properly studied"

    Actually the Polish psychiatrist Andrzej Łobaczewski led a group studying exactly that under the heading of "Political Ponerology". And indeed one of the conclusions was that pyschopaths are selected by the structure to rise to the top.

    Certainly worth a look, though unkown for the most part in the provincial, incestuous Anglosphere, which seems to think if work has not appeared in English, it does not exist.
  214. Deep State.. Can Linh Dinh, can anyone here name a member of it? No, I don’ t suppose so because it must be part of its point and its identity to be deeply hidden from outsiders,j n though it seems like!y that Ron, and Pat Buchanan, have had some contact, mysterious unconfirmed sightings perhaps, and maybe I had one too when I found myself inconvenienced by Dick Cheney ‘s ambulance equipped vice-presidential plane blocking traffic at Jackson Hole airport. One presumes that he used his flights to take DS people with him for long chats. (Cognoscenti, please tell me who would be giving instructions to whom… How does that limerick go ” ,… of Khartoum…. Who does what and with which and to whom?”)

    I suppose we have to start with Turkey and its definitely powerful Deep (or secret) State that was a Kemalist device for keeping Turkey on a modern secular road. A bit like a constitutional monarchy with reserve powers to replace a lunatic PM if he wouldn,t resign. But that,s not hidden or very complicated. After all Sir John Kerr as Australian Governor-General only sacked the PM in 1976 after consulting very few,and only judges for constitutional advice: a bit as hoc for the DS. Anyway we could call its unelected co-opted members the Keyser Söze Society and show that we have a feel for the arcane mystery we are reverently researching.

    Must it be powerful and always or nearly always get its way? No, that’s boys own romance Comic stuff. People aren’t like that especially people who have or want to exercise power. They fight amongst themselves unless one can pull a silent Swifty behind the scenes. Well yes, there could be occasions when the common interests of all the rich and powerful coincide and, with an amenable president, just a tap on the shoulder is needed – like “François, we’re nkt going to humiliate you but you know you can ‘t keep that 75 per cent rate”. But, that,s rare: cite me cases…

    Let’s look at numbers. At least 99.9 per cent of people never get close to having any appreciable influence on any policy or act of the Federal government. You could be part of the Deep State if you have some influence on a policy decision or other significant executive act that is unknown to the public except perhaps years after. The influence could be exercised without your having to raise a finger at the heavyweight end. But without such influence you can ‘t qualify for membership. Suppose I in 500 can cross our threshold. That’s 600,000 Americans. But that would include the three scientists who effectively lobbied to get the need for a sensible safety measure understood and accepted – a one off. Nothing sinister about the lack of public know!edge in that case.

    So let’s try applying some logic to making useable sense of the DS notion in a Western plutocracy with democratic rhetorical flavour and odd gestures along the lines of hypocrisy being the tribute that vice pays to virtue (assuming one can find a connection between virtue and democracy). In such a large volatile polity of fast moving game changers as America anyone seriously in the DS business has to be plugged in pretty well 24/7 coping with threats and keeping an eye on competition.

    Let’s assume you don’t have personal or other close links to the President then you will have a more or less visible team in some corporate or other organisational form that keeps you in touch in a way JP Morgan didn’t need in his simple days of direct plutocracy (albeit under the first Roosevelt threat). True, concealment a la Mossack Fonseca for the passing of money is possible but that isn’t going to achieve or explain much policy or privilege change. You are going to have a tough time remaining below the radar of thousands of journalists and wannabes even if you float “window” out tto fool the radar. And, very important, the issue has to be one for a solid common front and unanimity if the so-to-speak Trotskyite faction isn’t to threaten “splittism” – the concept of suicide splittism being not unknown even if finding the Anthony Wieners of this world to execute it for you may present difficulties of excessive normality.

    So you want to be a properly established permanent Deep State institutional operator which hides behind never perfect or boastfully celebrated wins, cooperation and compromise with the similarly realistic, a plausible even genuine veneer of lawfulness and the twin blessings of charitable status, plus the modest moniker of “think tank”. That’s the minimum for competing with the individuals whom the President calls on for advice or as sounding boards and for whom he picks up the calls or has them let through the screen of minders – and have or may have agenda unlike the Warren Buffetts and Bill Gates or Rupert Murdoch who will get a hearing but aren’t hiding their aims.

    There are many think tanks. Which might be part of that Deep State? I haven’t any idea though it is fair to say that if part of the Deep State were to reside in the American Enterprise Institute it is likely that respected people like Charles Murray wouldn’t be in that loop. Same with any of them.

    Are we necessarily looking for something hidden? Talk about the Deep State would make it seem obvious the answer is yes but the time and energy costs of concealment tend to militate against that. Just think of remembering to keep a special cell phone most people in your organisation mustn’t know about or see traces of on your credit card account …. and so on and on. But perhaps such contact work is farmed out to full-time professionals like mercenaries in Africa – a mixture perhaps of former CIA, FBI and IR service people and a diplomat turned lawyer. Danger there of course as Emperors could tell you as they reminisced about stopping the Praetorian Guard from becoming too powerful.

    I think I’m zeroing in on the only plausible (if any) candidates fo