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John Kerry’s speech of December 28th, 2016 is an eye-opening indictment of Israel. Though prolix and padded with platitudes, its meat is a long overdue j’accuse.

Much of the world has long viewed the Jewish state as a serial landgrabbing killer. Indirectly, Kerry converged with this near consensus, “the settler agenda is defining the future of Israel. And their stated purpose is clear. They believe in one state: greater Israel,” but this settler agenda is the very definition of Israel, for it was founded on stealing other people’s land and killing them.

Unchecked, it will gobble up even more of its neighbors’ territories. Eric Margolis points out, “Israel may look small on the map but it’s a giant of a country, filled with very smart people who know just what they want and how to get it.”

On November 29th, 2012, the United Nations voted to recognize Palestine as a “non-member observer state.” 139 countries assented, 41 abstained and only 9 said no. The sulkers were Israel, United States, Canada, CzechRepublic, Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru, Palau and Panama. The very next day, Israel announced it would build 3,000 more homes for Jews in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem. Screw the world, responded Israel.

Kerry quoted Shimon Peres to tell us that the 52% of Palestine given to Jews had ballooned to 78%, as of 2014. Kerry:

I don’t think most people in Israel, and certainly in the world, have any idea how broad and systematic the process has become. But the facts speak for themselves. The number of settlers in the roughly 130 Israeli settlements east of the 1967 lines has steadily grown. The settler population in the West Bank alone, not including East Jerusalem, has increased by nearly 270,000 since Oslo, including 100,000 just since 2009, when President Obama’s term began.

As Kerry said, stealing land from Palestinians is systematic and ongoing, but without systematic, bloody land theft, there would be no Israel at all. Stealing land is Israel’s core and DNA.

To most Americans, however, the Jewish homeland is a sacred, eternal victim that must be defended till the end (time). Jewish scripture is routinely evoked to defend Jewish larceny. Considering this most unnatural nation “God’s outpost,” Pat Robertson believes Jews must own it all. He cites:

I am going to give all this land to you and your offspring as a permanent possession (Genesis 13:15)

O our God, did you not drive out those who lived in this land when your people arrived? And did you not give this land forever to the descendants of your friend Abraham? (II Chronicles 20:7)

Influential blogger Michael Snyder believes God has punished the US ten times for not kissing Israel’s tush enough. When Bill Clinton met with Bashar al-Assad in 1994 to discuss the possible return of the Golan Heights, Yahweh retaliated within 24 hours by slamming California with the Northridge Earthquake. When Clinton failed to show enough love to Netanyahu at the White House in 1998, the Monica Lewinsky scandal spattered onto newsprint that same day. When Bush fils set August 23rd, 2005 as the deadline for removing Jewish settlers from Gaza, Hurricane Katrina took aim for New Orleans. The fact that it only caused minimal damage to the Bahamas and Cuba shows how excellent of a marksman God is.

Obama must have gotten a kick out of having a Jew, Kerry, shame the Jewish homeland. This affront won’t be shrugged off. What’s in your closet, Barack? The sex-slave island set up by mysteriously-funded Jewish billionaire Jeffrey Epstein ensnared some the world’s most powerful, but Obama never went there, apparently. Did he, however, order pasta and ice cream from Besta [Bestia, Beast] Pizza?

Israel’s defenders have lambasted Kerry’s speech as shameful, reckless and destructive. I asked my Palestinian friend, Tahseen al Khateeb, for a response. He emailed me from Amman, Jordan:

The only good thing about Mr. Kerry’s speech is that this is the first time we hear such blunt words from an American diplomat! Kerry’s rebuke of Israel is warmly welcomed all over the Arab world, but what’s really going on? I don’t believe the American administration’s conscience is suddenly awaken. The Obama Administration did nothing to help the Palestinians build their own free independent state, and nothing to prevent Israel’s war on Gaza. They did nothing to stop the building of settlements. So why now, in their final days in power, are they talking about Palestinian rights?!

In the near future, nothing will change with this US pivot, but symbolically, we’re living in a new world, one where Israel is universally seen as criminal in essence, a fact that’s reinforced each day it refuses to abandon its +130 illegal settlements.

Speaking to leaders of Muslim countries in 2003, Malaysian President Mahathir Mohamad described the founding of Israel as Europeans dumping their “Jewish problem” onto Muslims, a situation they had to swallow due to their weakness. After abusing Jews, Christians made Muslims pay to eternity. Thus:

There is a feeling of hopelessness among the Muslim countries and their people. They feel that they can do nothing right. They believe that things can only get worse. The Muslims will forever be oppressed and dominated by the Europeans and the Jews. They will forever be poor, backward and weak.

Backing Israel has only discredited and immiserated the US and its Christian allies, however, and that’s why they’re starting to wash their hands of this nightmare. Leaving office, Obama can finally afford to pipe up some truth. Coming in, Trump is prostrating himself most abjectly. He’s showing his true colors. To defend this deeply despised nation is to go against the world, truth, justice, common sense and America.

Another apartheid country, South Africa, had to remake itself after becoming delegitimized and universally condemned, so the end of Israel is within sight. Without this endless font of strife and mendacity, the world will be a much better place. Amen.

Linh Dinh’s Postcards from the End of America will be published by Seven Stories Press in January of 2017. Tracking our deteriorating socialscape, he maintains a photo blog.

 
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  1. Please, no premature celebrations. They’ve as much as promised to take the USA down with them when and if they go..

    ETA: “Obama must have gotten a kick out of having a Jew, Kerry, shame the Jewish homeland.”

    Linh, tell me you did not just say that John Kerry is of the Tribe. What’s wrong with you?

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    Boston Globe, 6/15/03:

    For the past 15 years or so, Kerry says, he knew his paternal grandmother was probably Jewish, and he also knew the Kerrys came from the former Austrian empire. But he said he did not know, until informed by the Globe earlier this year, that his grandfather was a Czech Jew named Fritz Kohn who changed his name to Frederick Kerry to escape a violent strain of anti-Semitism. According to a story passed down to at least one family member, Kohn and his siblings randomly dropped a pencil on a map of Europe, spotted Ireland's County Kerry, and adopted the name. Kohn and his wife, Ida Lowe, who was born Jewish in Budapest, changed their name to Kerry, were baptized as Catholics in 1902, and immigrated to the United States in 1905.
     
    Haaretz, 12/21/12:

    When Kerry was Kohn: The Jewish roots of John Kerry
    Dina Kraft

    BOSTON – Senator John Kerry, with his mother’s New England patrician pedigree and his Irish last name actually has a grandfather who was born a Jew in the former Austro-Hungarian Empire.

    The news was a revelation to Kerry himself, who only found out about his Jewish roots while running in the 2004 presidential election.

    His paternal grandfather Frederick A. Kerry, was born Fritz Kohn in a town in what today is the Czech Republic before changing his name ahead of his immigration to the United States a century ago.

    Kerry is a long-time U.S. Senator representing Massachusetts, who was nominated Friday by President Barack Obama as his next secretary of state.

    Kerry, if confirmed in the position, will not be the first U.S. Secretary of State to have discovered a Jewish family past later in life.

    In 1997 Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who was born in Prague, learned three of her four grandparents were Jewish.

    In more immediate Jewish family ties, Kerry’s brother Cameron converted to Judaism after marrying Kathy Weinman, a Jewish woman and fellow lawyer he met on the job at a Washington law firm.

    In 1994 as his brother campaigned for president, Cameron Kerry, known as Cam, traveled to Israel for the first time on what was termed a “private visit” that was arranged by a branch of AIPAC. Accompanying him on that trip was Kerry’s top advisor on Mideast and Jewish affairs.

    During the visit he recalled finding out about his family’s Jewish roots and calling up his in-laws to tell them the news.

    “I called up Kathy's parents and said 'I'm Jewish,' and they said, 'Yeah we know' and I said, 'No, I'm really Jewish,'" he said in an interview with JTA at the time.
     
    , @Lorax
    A person who is born to a Jewish mother is Jewish. It's that simple.
    John Kerry was born to Rosemary Forbes, and his mother was Episcopalian.
    He is not a born (or converted) Jew. Has some Ashkenazi DNA though.
    As do Michael Douglass, Robert Downey Jr. and Sean Penn whose mothers
    were all Christian European. Ditto for Paul Newman. All well born IMO.
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  2. For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven. Or at least I will. Half of Israel’s population comes from these Middle East derived Jews and other half from European Jews.
    Meanwhile Islam is conquering Europe via immigration, sucking up Euro-welfare system’s money and converting this into explosive birthrates. For Europe’s future demographics take a look at French and Swedish kindergarten classes. So who is smart and who are the chumps?
    What Lihn Dinh objects to is that the Israelis know how to keep the Muslim wolves at bay as the hapless Europeans cave in/submit/ and self destruct.

    The Expulsion of the Jews from Muslim Countries, 1920-1970: A History of Ongoing Cruelty and Discrimination
    Prof. Shmuel Trigano, November 4, 2010

    Between 1920 and 1970, 900,000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries. The 1940s were a turning point in this tragedy; of those expelled, 600,000 settled in the new state of Israel, and 300,000 in France and the United States. Today, they and their descendents form the majority of the French Jewish community and a large part of Israel’s population.
    In the countries that expelled Jews, a combination of six legal, economic, and political measures aimed at isolating Jews in society was instituted: denationalization; legal discrimination; isolation and sequestration; economic despoilment; socioeconomic discrimination; and pogroms or similar acts.
    It is the custom to say that Zionism was responsible for this development. However, the region’s anti-Semitism would have developed even without the rise of the state of Israel because of Arab-Islamic nationalism, which resulted in xenophobia.

    http://jcpa.org/article/the-expulsion-of-the-jews-from-muslim-countries-1920-1970-a-history-of-ongoing-cruelty-and-discrimination/

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    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven.
     
    Ya gotta hand it to this crowd. They certainly know how to "one up" the goyim, even if they have to make stuff up.

    If the smart asses are so clever, how come they're not smart enough to lay low for once? Or at least refrain from making nuisances of themselves to the point that they're universally loathed?

    Why can't the smart ones see that lies, murder and theft have a shelf life? Arrogance and chutzpah too.

    If they're so smart why do they not only repeatedly reject their own prophet's admonitions to the point that they even torture and kill 'em? Despite their brains and wealth, they repeatedly think and act like they're above their own G-d's laws.

    Answer me that, oh smarties!

    What's going on in the settlements is the oh-so-clever infiltration (well honed, I might add from constant practice since the expulsion from the Garden) that everyone's supposed to ignore or pretend isn't happening. I bet the serpent was a python.
    , @Mario64
    Muslim wolves?? What about the Americans??

    Albright interview:
    On May 12, 1996, Madeleine Albright (then U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations) appeared on a 60 Minutes segment in which Lesley Stahl asked her "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?" and Albright replied "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it." Albright wrote later that Saddam Hussein, not the sanctions, was to blame. She criticized Stahl's segment as "amount[ing] to Iraqi propaganda"; said that her question was a loaded question;[63][64] wrote "I had fallen into a trap and said something I did not mean";[65] and regretted coming "across as cold-blooded and cruel".[66] The segment won an Emmy Award.[45][67] Albright's "non-denial" was taken by sanctions opponents as confirmation of a high number of sanctions related casualties.[57][63]
    (Wikipedia)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE

    Iraq Sanctions imposed by UN Security Council at request of US and UK.
    New York Times. December 1, 1995
    UNITED NATIONS, Nov. 30— As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
    http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html

    Denis J. Halliday (born c.1941)[1] was the United Nations Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq from 1 September 1997 until 1998.
    I was driven to resignation because I refused to continue to take Security Council orders, the same Security Council that had imposed and sustained genocidal sanctions on the innocent of Iraq. I did not want to be complicit. I wanted to be free to speak out publicly about this crime.
    And above all, my innate sense of justice was and still is outraged by the violence that UN sanctions have brought upon, and continues to bring upon, the lives of children, families – the extended families, the loved ones of Iraq. There is no justification for killing the young people of Iraq, not the aged, not the sick, not the rich, not the poor.
    (Wikipedia)

    Hans von Sponeck
    After Denis Halliday resigned as UN Humanitarian Coordinator for Iraq in October 1998, Sponeck took over, heading all UN operations in Iraq and managing the Iraqi operations of the Oil-for-Food Programme.[1] In February 2000, Sponeck and Jutta Burghardt, head of the UN World Food Programme in Iraq, both resigned for the same reason as Halliday, to protest against the Iraq sanctions policy of the UN. Sponeck and Halliday wrote an article in The Guardian explaining their position, accusing the sanctions regime of violating the Geneva Conventions and other international laws and causing the death of thousands of Iraqis. (Wikipedia)

    From Global Research:
    US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children
    Statement by Professor Francis Boyle, Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal
    Approximately 3.3 million Iraqis, including 750,000 children, were “exterminated” by economic sanctions and/or illegal wars conducted by the U.S. and Great Britain between 1990 and 2012, an eminent international legal authority says.
    The slaughter fits the classic definition of Genocide Convention Article II of, “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part,” says Francis Boyle, professor of international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign, and who in 1991 filed a class-action complaint with the UN against President George H.W. Bush.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-2012-killed-3-3-million-including-750000-children/5314461
    , @greysquirrell
    "For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven. Or at least I will. Half of Israel’s population comes from these Middle East derived Jews and other half from European Jews."

    Why should the Palestinians need to pay for others in the MidEast evicting Jews ; that's the same as saying the Palestinians need to pay for what Germans did to Jews.
    , @annamaria
    Could you also elucidate the source of the birthright of the former Soviet Jews on the Palestinian orchards and century-old Palestinian cemeteries ? What about the "good-German" behavior towards Palestinian civilians by the "most moral" IDF? The use of torture (even on the the underage) and the collective punishment against the NATIVE Palestinians by the newcomers?
    There is nothing new about Israelis' behavior: the "most moral" imitates both the Kievan pogroms and Nazi' tactics against "unworthy" and "unchosen."
    When getting power in Russia one hundred years ago, in 1917, the commanding Jews were totally merciless towards Russian nobility and Russian clergy; by trying to exterminate the intellectuals, the Bolshevic power aimed at exterminating the important carriers of the native cultural traditions.
    In the US, the ziocons have been "arranging" the channeling of the country resources towards their dearest project of Eretz Israel, while spreading lies (see Ledeen and Iraq WMD) and removing the competent and principled America-firsters from the position of influence (see the story of the idiotic Douglas Feith and the superbly qualified Colonel Patrick Lang). The criminal policies in the Middle East - the policies that follow miraculously the Yinon Plan for Eretz Israel - have resulted in the ruined states of Iraq, Libya, and Syria and in the huge waves of desperate people (including the whole families with small children) running from the death and destruction. When you write, "Meanwhile Islam is conquering Europe via immigration," you remind the readers that the "conquering of Europe by Islam" is the direct consequence of the wars against the formerly-functioning neighbors of Israel. Moreover, Europe would not suffer from the ongoing waves of low-IQ sub-Saharan migrants if Qaddaffi were still in power in Libya. But the members of PNAC had a plan for the Middle East.
    It is an open secret that the state of Israel does not want to have the prosperous and stable states among its neighbors. For instance, listen carefully to some prominent Israeli generals that articulate their preference for ISIS to sovereign Syria.
    , @Anonymous
    Ohhhhhhkay Clyde.

    So we gotta give the Jews the keys to the castle because if not the muslims will conquer us?

    The Jews are the ones who destabilized Muslim countries to make room for the greater Isreal project, and Jews are the people who are forcing western countries to accept Muslim immigrants.

    Sounds like Jews are just manufacturing problems for the west to justify further Jewish rule.

    No thanks.
    , @paratrop
    If you want to read a less biased source than the "Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs" try this along with the usual hasbarist comments being refuted.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/09/israeli-hasbara-effort-justice-for-jewish-refugees-from-arab-countries-gets-pushback-from-baghdadi-jews/

    Mizrahi Yisrael Yeshayahu: “We are not refugees. [Some of us] came to this country before the state was born. We had messianic aspirations.”

    And read about the Lavon Affair in Egypt.

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html
    , @Reality Check
    The Jews "expelled" is afrequent 'talking point', but somewhat of an exaggeration. According to israel's Central Bureau of Statistics in the years 1949 to about 1952-3 only a few hundred thousand jews actually emigrated to israel and many of them left of their own volition and were economically incentivized by the zionists, often provided free housing in homes and villages formerly owned and populated by the expelled Palestinians. There are also reports of zionist false flag bombings intended to frighten Arab Jews into making aliya (How Zionist Jews Used False Flag Terrorism To Kill Iraqi Jews & To Get Them To Emigrate To Israel - Naeim Giladi, an Israeli agent operating in Iraq in the late 1940’s.).

    Emigration from Arab/Muslim countries continued at a relatively calm stable pace all the way up until 1964. So there wasn't the catastrophic expulsion emergency israel's internet shills describe. Moreover, whatever expulsions did occur happened only AFTER multiple massacres of Palestinians had occurred and over 500 of their villages were "wiped off the map" and fully half the native population of Arabs had been driven out by the European Jew invaders of Palestine in 1947-48...over 750,000 people. The size of the population of San Francisco.
    , @Alden
    So what?
  3. Most of Syria is part of the “Promised Land” described in the Bible. So it belongs to the Jews! Israel openly annexed Syria’s Golan Heights many years ago and the world did nothing except refuse to recognize this. Does this explain Obama’s senseless support for the overthrow of popular and moderate President Assad by arming foreign Jihadists? Note that Israel conducts airstrikes in Syria on a weekly basis, and even missile attacks. http://defense-update.com/20161208_israels-precision-rockets.html

    When “radical” ISIS reached Israel’s border two years ago, these hard core Islamist didn’t attempt to cross. They never fired mortars, rockets, or bullets across the fence. Israel even provided medical aid to wounded ISIS Jihadists.

    If Assad goes, so goes Syria. It would be a chaotic mess and Israel would be justified to invade to establish a huge “security zone”, now cleared of Syrians killed or refugeed. Jewish settlements would appear in these occupied territories, as they did in the Golan. None of this is disclosed or discussed in the American media. But it does explain why nearly all American political leaders chant “Assad Must Go!” yet refuse to explain why.

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    I think it goes beyond a potential land grab. Israel has sought to weaken any potential enemies by creating a chaotic mess. Countries with internal strife, civil war, don't project strategic threats outside their borders. I know, it does sound like textbook demonic crap. The devil uses the very same tactics.

    Israel (neocons) is responsible for Iraq, Libya, now Syria. Initially the targets (Clean Break) included Iran as well, but Russia has since been added to the list. This is why you hear the neocon ventriloquist dummies (e.g., Fox News, Congress, etc.) calling Russia an enemy, calling for greater sanctions against Russia, Obama expelling Russian diplomats, etc. This after Russia is accused of hacking a private email server. But when China hacks a U.S. federal government agency and steals the data of millions of people with security clearances, well, crickets.


    Cybercrime
    OPM hack: China blamed for massive breach of US government data

    US Representative Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House select intelligence committee, said: “The last few months have seen a series of massive data breaches that have affected millions of Americans.

    He called the latest intrusion “among the most shocking because Americans may expect that federal computer networks are maintained with state-of-the-art defences”.
     

    Hebrew Congressman Adam Schiff sounds so measured regarding China hack. Just beef up cyber security in response. But with Russia:

    Rep. Schiff: Congress will push for Russia sanctions if Trump undoes Obama's action.

    We've got aluminum tubes, reports of yellow cake purchases, and grainy satellite photos with indefinable objects circled. Let's declare war! What, you're against defending America?? You traitor!

    How many countries must a people and its pseudo-country destroy??

    , @ichthyophagous
    Your link states, " If the Syrian claim is correct, this incident is the first time that Israel’s Defense Forces (IDF) have used precision guided surface-launched missiles, a new type of weapon procured this year.." But is the Syrian claim correct? If it is an Israeli missile, how are you sure the IDF is firing it? All reports I've seen indicate that Israel does not intervene in the Syria war except when military goods are headed to Hezbollah.
    , @OilcanFloyd
    "If Assad goes, so goes Syria. It would be a chaotic mess and Israel would be justified to invade to establish a huge “security zone”, now cleared of Syrians killed or refugeed. Jewish settlements would appear in these occupied territories, as they did in the Golan. None of this is disclosed or discussed in the American media. But it does explain why nearly all American political leaders chant “Assad Must Go!” yet refuse to explain why."

    I had never heard of Greater Israel until I read a Wolf Blitzer article in the Jerusalem Post covering the push for an Israel from the Mediterranean to Mesopotamia. Apparently Zionists believe that most of the Middle East belongs to them, not just Israel, the West Bank, Occupied Territories and small parts of neighboring countries. I have no idea if the Israeli edition of the paper is different than the American edition, but I don't believe that Blitzer would ever speak of Greater Israel to a non-Jewish, American audience. That's a real problem.

    I really don't care that much about the ME, and believe that many of our current problems are due to Jewish power in America, not Israeli influence. Put a hard check on Jewish power in the U.S., and Israel wouldn't be the issue it is, and the ME would be much more stable. America would also be freer, less corrupt and likely more prosperous. At the very least, Americans would be better informed.
    , @Seraphim
    @If Assad goes, so goes Syria

    Stay calm, neither he will go, nor Syria. It would be rather Israel as a "Jewish state'.
    , @Bill Jones
    One more barking mad piece of zionist shit.
    The US should have glassed Israel in 1967.
  4. God has punished the US ten times for not kissing Israel’s tush enough.

    God had a bit of help (from Israel) on 9/11.

    Mr. Dinh, the reality of the 9/11 conspiracy doesn’t mean one must jump on every conspiracy bandwagon. The Podesta emails reveal that not only are Democrat insiders contemptuous of fair play, they are contemptuous of common American family values. This is enough to condemn them forcefully! There is no need for evidence-free conjecture about child sex trafficking.

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  5. Stealing land is Israel’s core and DNA.

    You just say this. Both the Bible, genetic history, and the right of conquest that established the borders of nearly every country all say the West Bank is rightfully Israel’s.

    The Golan Heights were taken after Syria twice invaded Israel.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Hasbarist hilarity.

    The Bible says so? LOL

    Actually Syria defended itself from that "shitty little county".

    and:
    Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine
    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/

    And why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?

    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    Must reads:
    Holocaust Handbooks & Documentaries
    http://holocausthandbooks.com
    and:
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
    , @German_reader
    That's not the position of international law, and it doesn't answer the question what Israel is supposed to do with the Palestinians in the West bank. Permanently keeping them as a subjected non-citizen population looks pretty bad to the rest of the world and expelling them won't be possible absent some major international crisis. Granting them citizenship and equal rights however will destroy Israel as a Jewish nation state.
    , @Skeptikal
    "genetic history,"

    This is a biggie. I have long thought that all Israeli Jews should have DNA profiles done and compare them to archaeological remains.
    That would quickly separate the sheep from the goats.
    But I am unaware of any program to systematically carry out DNA tests on the Jewish colonizers and settlers.
    In particular I would love to see the tests of the Jewish cowboys who have transferred from substandard digs in Brooklyn to a nice house in the the settlements, all on the Israeli (read American) taxpayer's shekel.
    , @Anonymous
    Did you really just say that the Bible gives you the rights to that land? Lol

    Jewish genetics trace back to Europe as much as the holy land.

    And as far as right of conquest, you actually got that part right. But what was stolen can be taken back.
    , @Alden
    Only idiots and evangelicals believe the collection of myths and fables collected in the bible, especially the Old Testament/Torah
  6. @Kyle McKenna
    Please, no premature celebrations. They've as much as promised to take the USA down with them when and if they go..

    ETA: "Obama must have gotten a kick out of having a Jew, Kerry, shame the Jewish homeland."

    Linh, tell me you did not just say that John Kerry is of the Tribe. What's wrong with you?

    Boston Globe, 6/15/03:

    For the past 15 years or so, Kerry says, he knew his paternal grandmother was probably Jewish, and he also knew the Kerrys came from the former Austrian empire. But he said he did not know, until informed by the Globe earlier this year, that his grandfather was a Czech Jew named Fritz Kohn who changed his name to Frederick Kerry to escape a violent strain of anti-Semitism. According to a story passed down to at least one family member, Kohn and his siblings randomly dropped a pencil on a map of Europe, spotted Ireland’s County Kerry, and adopted the name. Kohn and his wife, Ida Lowe, who was born Jewish in Budapest, changed their name to Kerry, were baptized as Catholics in 1902, and immigrated to the United States in 1905.

    Haaretz, 12/21/12:

    When Kerry was Kohn: The Jewish roots of John Kerry
    Dina Kraft

    BOSTON – Senator John Kerry, with his mother’s New England patrician pedigree and his Irish last name actually has a grandfather who was born a Jew in the former Austro-Hungarian Empire.

    The news was a revelation to Kerry himself, who only found out about his Jewish roots while running in the 2004 presidential election.

    His paternal grandfather Frederick A. Kerry, was born Fritz Kohn in a town in what today is the Czech Republic before changing his name ahead of his immigration to the United States a century ago.

    Kerry is a long-time U.S. Senator representing Massachusetts, who was nominated Friday by President Barack Obama as his next secretary of state.

    Kerry, if confirmed in the position, will not be the first U.S. Secretary of State to have discovered a Jewish family past later in life.

    In 1997 Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who was born in Prague, learned three of her four grandparents were Jewish.

    In more immediate Jewish family ties, Kerry’s brother Cameron converted to Judaism after marrying Kathy Weinman, a Jewish woman and fellow lawyer he met on the job at a Washington law firm.

    In 1994 as his brother campaigned for president, Cameron Kerry, known as Cam, traveled to Israel for the first time on what was termed a “private visit” that was arranged by a branch of AIPAC. Accompanying him on that trip was Kerry’s top advisor on Mideast and Jewish affairs.

    During the visit he recalled finding out about his family’s Jewish roots and calling up his in-laws to tell them the news.

    “I called up Kathy’s parents and said ‘I’m Jewish,’ and they said, ‘Yeah we know’ and I said, ‘No, I’m really Jewish,’” he said in an interview with JTA at the time.

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    Still seems a little thin to justify the flat assertion "a Jew, Kerry" in your original piece.

    Is it useful to apply some sort of "one drop" rule to identify jewish people, and for what purpose would this be appropriate? In the case of a public figure like Kerry, the only really useful reason to identify their racial/ethnic/religious/national affiliations would seem to be to identify potential conflicts of loyalty and interest, and there seems no good reason to anticipate such in the case of Kerry, who appears to have been raised Catholic without strong, direct links to his distant jewish relatives.

    Even the specific purpose in your piece, to claim Obama might have enjoyed the situation, doesn't seem justified by it.


    During the visit he recalled finding out about his family’s Jewish roots and calling up his in-laws to tell them the news.

    “I called up Kathy’s parents and said ‘I’m Jewish,’ and they said, ‘Yeah we know’ and I said, ‘No, I’m really Jewish,’” he said in an interview with JTA at the time.
     

    These kinds of people would seem likely to be the archetypal "fair weather" jews, who will insist they are jewish now, in US and Israeli circles where it's fashionable or advantageous to do so, but suddenly forget it once the pendulum swings back.
    , @another fred
    Dammit!!

    Does this mean that now I cannot openly ridicule Lurch without being accused of anti-Semitism?
    , @Kyle McKenna
    Thanks for educating me, and I apologize for my last remark especially. I had looked up 'John Kerry Jewish' upon reading your piece but couldn't find anything. As the other commenter said, it may be a stretch to call him Jewish outright, but at least his facial physiognomy makes more sense now ;)
    , @chris
    What's up with all these US secretaries of State finding out they're Jewish the day they're sworn into office ? Didn't Madeleine Albright claim to have had the same experience ?

    Didn't somebody in Kerry's family, living in Ireland notice a somewhat distorted map of Ireland in the mirror?
  7. US geopolitical strategists view it as an asset. Huge military base in the middle of a super-important region. An extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines.

    Consequently, all the ‘human rights’ stuff, outrage at some group’s sufferings, etc. — none of that is applicable here, as that only can be used for discrediting the US enemies. End of story. It will keep going the way it is until the price of doing it is too high (and then some, probably).

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    • Replies: @Art
    US geopolitical strategists view it as an asset. Huge military base in the middle of a super-important region. An extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines.

    It is true that there are US Gentiles who think that way. The Project for a New America Century has Gentiles in it. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and others. But they are surrounded by Jews - Jews fund them.

    The same with defense contractors - many of them have Jews on their boards of directors. Boeing a proud born and bred quintessential State of Washington company moved its headquarters to high tax Jew infested Chicago – Hmm - Why?

    The same with the geopolitical CIA, state department, et al. They all have Jew minders.

    Without Jew interference, the Gentile geopolitical warmongers would be swamped by the American people’s natural tendency to be isolationists (Jew media - "isolationists" are evil and bad, irresponsible slackers).

    Without the heavy hand of AIPAC, would congress be so war minded – NO!

    It’s the Jews folks – they are the power behind the US geopolitical throne!

    Peace --- Art
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Interesting. I recall opining 30+ years ago that maybe Israel should be looked on as America's army in the Middle East and valuable as such when ME oil was still vitally important and the Cold War hadn't ended. It is hard to see Israel as having the same value to the US now.
  8. During the 1980′s as house parents in a busy international youth hostel in Key West, Florida my family lived with hundreds of Israeli young men and women most of whom were Sabras (native born). What was most striking about the Israelis, compared to other groups we lived with, was the flat personal aspect and steely visage of these young men and women. Many carried, at a tender age, what has been described as the thousand-yard stare of veteran combatants. more https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2016/10/07/broken-warriors/

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    • Replies: @edNels
    I don't want to say it, but it seems to be an example of the Bad Seed theory. Born that way. Iron Jawed mfr's... Stiff Necked!
    , @RobinG
    You may have gotten the wrong end of the stick, Bob. The Israel Zionist elite have purposely instilled that stare.

    It is exactly the future that Israeli social planners are preparing for, by systematically indoctrinating their youth to feel threatened and victimized, superior and entitled. As the old Shoah survivors die out, they need the next generations imbued with both self-righteousness and paranoia.

    This film, made by an Israeli Jew BTW, is worth 10,000 words -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-1KgbAA_Mw
    Behind the Scenes of the ADL
    "Defamation"
  9. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    There can be no doubt that the most dangerous countries on earth today are Israel and the US; and with AIPAC et al controlling the latter, they should be considered one & the same

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Dangerous to whom?
    , @NoseytheDuke
    Easy to answer this one, dangerous to all of the countries on earth but especially to themselves and their "allies".
    , @NoseytheDuke
    Oops, sorry. The previous comment was meant for the Wiz. Unz comment software is so much smarter than I will ever be.
  10. linh

    i have been enjoying your postcard series because they describe real people.so why write this article.did you do your research.have you been to israel.
    however when i got to the end and read the last sentence i unbuckled a chuckle.
    amen indeed

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    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
    Why not write this article? Why does he have to have been to Israel?

    What is your argument against what he has written? Do you have an argument or just a lot of lower case twaddle?

    Yes, you like a lot of colorful safari-talk about the goyim. I bet you just love the Coen brothers. But criticism of Israel or Jewish mendacity in general disturbs you greatly.

    Some things never change.
  11. @Clyde
    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven. Or at least I will. Half of Israel's population comes from these Middle East derived Jews and other half from European Jews.
    Meanwhile Islam is conquering Europe via immigration, sucking up Euro-welfare system's money and converting this into explosive birthrates. For Europe's future demographics take a look at French and Swedish kindergarten classes. So who is smart and who are the chumps?
    What Lihn Dinh objects to is that the Israelis know how to keep the Muslim wolves at bay as the hapless Europeans cave in/submit/ and self destruct.


    The Expulsion of the Jews from Muslim Countries, 1920-1970: A History of Ongoing Cruelty and Discrimination
    Prof. Shmuel Trigano, November 4, 2010

    Between 1920 and 1970, 900,000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries. The 1940s were a turning point in this tragedy; of those expelled, 600,000 settled in the new state of Israel, and 300,000 in France and the United States. Today, they and their descendents form the majority of the French Jewish community and a large part of Israel’s population.
    In the countries that expelled Jews, a combination of six legal, economic, and political measures aimed at isolating Jews in society was instituted: denationalization; legal discrimination; isolation and sequestration; economic despoilment; socioeconomic discrimination; and pogroms or similar acts.
    It is the custom to say that Zionism was responsible for this development. However, the region’s anti-Semitism would have developed even without the rise of the state of Israel because of Arab-Islamic nationalism, which resulted in xenophobia.
    http://jcpa.org/article/the-expulsion-of-the-jews-from-muslim-countries-1920-1970-a-history-of-ongoing-cruelty-and-discrimination/
     

    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven.

    Ya gotta hand it to this crowd. They certainly know how to “one up” the goyim, even if they have to make stuff up.

    If the smart asses are so clever, how come they’re not smart enough to lay low for once? Or at least refrain from making nuisances of themselves to the point that they’re universally loathed?

    Why can’t the smart ones see that lies, murder and theft have a shelf life? Arrogance and chutzpah too.

    If they’re so smart why do they not only repeatedly reject their own prophet’s admonitions to the point that they even torture and kill ‘em? Despite their brains and wealth, they repeatedly think and act like they’re above their own G-d’s laws.

    Answer me that, oh smarties!

    What’s going on in the settlements is the oh-so-clever infiltration (well honed, I might add from constant practice since the expulsion from the Garden) that everyone’s supposed to ignore or pretend isn’t happening. I bet the serpent was a python.

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    • Replies: @Clyde
    The Israelis would never take your style of harebrained advice. This is why they are still around in an ocean of Muslims and doing great economically. They are an exporting super power and hi-tech giant including cutting edge medical high tech. What do the Muslims s give/sell to the world? Oil is about it and frackin is killing them.
    One day your life will be saved by an Israeli medical advance. Or some ailment put on hold or cured.
  12. “Another apartheid country, South Africa, had to remake itself…”

    And yet Americans that separated the indigenous peoples here putting them on their so called ‘reservations’ see no irony in the fact that they themselves live in settlements on occupied land. Oh yes, you’ll now hear that we ‘bought’ or ‘traded’ for some of the land and that’s true…well to the extent that we dealt with the ones we didn’t murder as we killed our way across the land. On the bright side, we now allow them to have casinos and the President just took millions of acres of Nevada and Utah into federal custody to preserve, in part, ‘sacred’ sites of our own ‘palestinians’. Yay America….boo Israel.

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    • Replies: @anon
    Talk about comparing oranges and apples.
    , @Ace
    Spare me the violins and the sad, sad song of humans being conquered by other humans. I always want to cry over the injustice of it. It's just so wrong!
  13. LD,

    Please, more fabulous postcards, no more polemics.

    STOP reading Unz.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Agreed.
    , @jacques sheete

    Please, more fabulous postcards, no more polemics.
     
    Cuz the truth hurts.
  14. Meh, whatever. The restoration of Jewish independence in a tiny fraction of the land that was forcibly conquered and colonized by Islamic interlopers is one of the triumphs of humanity of the 20th century. The preservation of that independence in the face of four wars of genocidal intent started by the Arabs, as well as the largest and silliest sustained propaganda barrage in the history of the world is an additional triumph.

    Today Israel, in spite of being nine miles wide, without natural resources, and surrounded by barbaric failed states, is a modern democracy with a human capital based economy. It has managed against all odds to not only preserve but thrive, including absorbing the Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Muslim countries which now form the majority of its population. At any point Israel’s neighbors and their useful idiot enablers in the West could have decided to live in peace with it, but have chosen the path of denial every time. I see the trend continues…

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    • Replies: @The Grate Deign
    Add to that: Just based on observing the modern dar al Islam, you'd have to conclude that a Moslem state never really becomes all that civilized.
    , @Bill

    The restoration of Jewish independence in a tiny fraction of the land that was forcibly conquered and colonized by Islamic interlopers
     
    Uh, the Muslims did not forcibly conquer a Jewish, independent Palestine. They conquered it from the Christian Byzantines. Furthermore, the population of Palestine at the time wasn't all that Jewish---the diaspora had already happened and had not been reversed. Prior to 1948, the Jews had not ruled Palestine nor been a supermajority of its popuation for a long, long, long time.
  15. Influential blogger Michael Snyder believes God has punished the US ten times for not kissing Israel’s tush enough.

    And Americans still have the sheer, unselfaware cheek to criticise muslims for being driven by irrational religious motivations!

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  16. “The end of Israel is within sight”

    Ha!

    I remember when I was in college in the late 1980s a lefty professor told my class that Israel had only about twenty years left. He claimed Israel would inevitably collapse under the weight of a booming Arab population within its borders and technological advances of Arab militaries.

    Today Israel is stronger and wealthier than ever. For all its “apartheid” status much of the world is lining up to do business with it. Even Arab and Muslim countries want to trade with it.

    (Have you read about Azerbaijan and Israel lately?).

    Israel even has oil and gas!

    Israel’s conflict with the Palestinians is just an annoying sideshow to the greater dysfunctions in the Mideast. Even the Arabs don’t really care about the Palestinians any more.

    That said, I believe Israel would be better off if it stopped building these silly settlements and even dismantled many of them. But I don’t think this would make any difference. The Palestinians will inevitably reject any Israel peace overtures (as they have done repeatedly).

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    • Replies: @iffen

    a lefty professor told my class that Israel had only about twenty years left.
     
    No doubt this will coincide with the rise of Brazil as a super power.

    You didn’t harm the goat, did you?
    , @Anonymous
    Linh Dinh thrives on pessimism. Who is that Stoic philosopher who advocated this view of life? If you have worst case scenario as your weltanschauung you'll go through life pleasantly surprised by outcomes. Have you read his articles on how the U.S. is doomed (even with Trump in the White House) and will by a third-world clusterfuck pretty soon? Or his articles on Europe and Germany? Great stuff. It keeps my optimism in check.
    , @raphee
    Ah yes, Israeli peace overtures. Last time was when the Israelis bombed Gaza.

    Pesky Palestinians just don't get it, do they?
  17. @Linh Dinh
    Boston Globe, 6/15/03:

    For the past 15 years or so, Kerry says, he knew his paternal grandmother was probably Jewish, and he also knew the Kerrys came from the former Austrian empire. But he said he did not know, until informed by the Globe earlier this year, that his grandfather was a Czech Jew named Fritz Kohn who changed his name to Frederick Kerry to escape a violent strain of anti-Semitism. According to a story passed down to at least one family member, Kohn and his siblings randomly dropped a pencil on a map of Europe, spotted Ireland's County Kerry, and adopted the name. Kohn and his wife, Ida Lowe, who was born Jewish in Budapest, changed their name to Kerry, were baptized as Catholics in 1902, and immigrated to the United States in 1905.
     
    Haaretz, 12/21/12:

    When Kerry was Kohn: The Jewish roots of John Kerry
    Dina Kraft

    BOSTON – Senator John Kerry, with his mother’s New England patrician pedigree and his Irish last name actually has a grandfather who was born a Jew in the former Austro-Hungarian Empire.

    The news was a revelation to Kerry himself, who only found out about his Jewish roots while running in the 2004 presidential election.

    His paternal grandfather Frederick A. Kerry, was born Fritz Kohn in a town in what today is the Czech Republic before changing his name ahead of his immigration to the United States a century ago.

    Kerry is a long-time U.S. Senator representing Massachusetts, who was nominated Friday by President Barack Obama as his next secretary of state.

    Kerry, if confirmed in the position, will not be the first U.S. Secretary of State to have discovered a Jewish family past later in life.

    In 1997 Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who was born in Prague, learned three of her four grandparents were Jewish.

    In more immediate Jewish family ties, Kerry’s brother Cameron converted to Judaism after marrying Kathy Weinman, a Jewish woman and fellow lawyer he met on the job at a Washington law firm.

    In 1994 as his brother campaigned for president, Cameron Kerry, known as Cam, traveled to Israel for the first time on what was termed a “private visit” that was arranged by a branch of AIPAC. Accompanying him on that trip was Kerry’s top advisor on Mideast and Jewish affairs.

    During the visit he recalled finding out about his family’s Jewish roots and calling up his in-laws to tell them the news.

    “I called up Kathy's parents and said 'I'm Jewish,' and they said, 'Yeah we know' and I said, 'No, I'm really Jewish,'" he said in an interview with JTA at the time.
     

    Still seems a little thin to justify the flat assertion “a Jew, Kerry” in your original piece.

    Is it useful to apply some sort of “one drop” rule to identify jewish people, and for what purpose would this be appropriate? In the case of a public figure like Kerry, the only really useful reason to identify their racial/ethnic/religious/national affiliations would seem to be to identify potential conflicts of loyalty and interest, and there seems no good reason to anticipate such in the case of Kerry, who appears to have been raised Catholic without strong, direct links to his distant jewish relatives.

    Even the specific purpose in your piece, to claim Obama might have enjoyed the situation, doesn’t seem justified by it.

    During the visit he recalled finding out about his family’s Jewish roots and calling up his in-laws to tell them the news.

    “I called up Kathy’s parents and said ‘I’m Jewish,’ and they said, ‘Yeah we know’ and I said, ‘No, I’m really Jewish,’” he said in an interview with JTA at the time.

    These kinds of people would seem likely to be the archetypal “fair weather” jews, who will insist they are jewish now, in US and Israeli circles where it’s fashionable or advantageous to do so, but suddenly forget it once the pendulum swings back.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Quit being so melodramatic and politically correct.

    You act like Jews themselves don't throughly investigate a person's background for jewish heritage to see if they will be good to the tribe.

    Isreal itself is a racial state. They absolutely consider how jewish you are for citizenship and what positions you will hold in society.
  18. Linh Dinh,

    A hard hitting and revealing essay. Congratulations on your courage.

    The successful passage of the United Nations Security Council Resolution is a glowing symbol that the Zionist Land Thieves and their Jewish backers in America, and throughout the world, have lost the blind support that they held from millions, thanks to the overwhelming brainwashing by means of the Jewish control of the Mainstream Media.

    The ugly truth of the Terrorist Zionist Land Thieves is being revealed (little by little).

    In the last days of 2016, the Palestinians have experienced their best moments, since their General Strike (for Independence), in 1936.

    Conversely, for the Zionist Land Thieves and their Jewish supporters, 2016 was the year their lies were best exposed. They have been condemned as the worst Terrorists since Hitler and the Nazi movement. It is the Zionists who are -Anti-Semites. The Zionists, and most Jews, hate Arabs. Arabs are Semites. Zionists and their Jewish supporters, who treat the Palestinian and other Arab peoples as the untermenschen, are the true Anti-Semites (most Jews are not Semites). My blond haired blue eyed German Jewish (mother’s side) family certainly are not Semites; some reside in Tel Aviv, having tossed their morals and radical politics 65 years ago.

    My mother (who was an early organizer of the Teacher’s Union and associate of Albert Shanker), insisted on us joining a Protestant Church, when I was 6 and my sister 5. Father was a Christian, and had no objections. Since then, my sister has joined the Mormons, and I, the Catholic Church. I follow the trajectory of Padraic Pearse and Pedro Albizu Campos, who joined the Catholic Church for spiritual and political reasons.

    As an Anarchist:

    I Respect All! And Bow to None!

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    Padraic Pearse and Pedro Albizu Campos
     
    Never heard of 'em, but a brief Google search yielded some fascinating things. Will need to read some when I'm not pressed for time.

    They remind me of Jose Rizal, the Filipino freedom fighter. Also, it's guys like these who make mockery of the IQ claims of the "superior" ones.

    LD, do you have any pieces on Vietnamese freedom fighters? I don't know much about Uncle Ho, but he seems to have been quite a fine dude as well.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    What courage? What an absurd cliché which I imagine the often observant Linh Dinh would disavow as embarrasing.
    , @disturbed_robot
    "As an Anarchist:

    I Respect All! And Bow to None!"

    Right on brother! The notion of "State" and it's built in violence has caused humanity far too much to continue believing in it. Israel is such a perfect example.
  19. @biz
    Meh, whatever. The restoration of Jewish independence in a tiny fraction of the land that was forcibly conquered and colonized by Islamic interlopers is one of the triumphs of humanity of the 20th century. The preservation of that independence in the face of four wars of genocidal intent started by the Arabs, as well as the largest and silliest sustained propaganda barrage in the history of the world is an additional triumph.

    Today Israel, in spite of being nine miles wide, without natural resources, and surrounded by barbaric failed states, is a modern democracy with a human capital based economy. It has managed against all odds to not only preserve but thrive, including absorbing the Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Muslim countries which now form the majority of its population. At any point Israel's neighbors and their useful idiot enablers in the West could have decided to live in peace with it, but have chosen the path of denial every time. I see the trend continues...

    Add to that: Just based on observing the modern dar al Islam, you’d have to conclude that a Moslem state never really becomes all that civilized.

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    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus

    you’d have to conclude that a Moslem state never really becomes all that civilized.
     
    What a fascinating thing to say:

    A "Jewish state" has never, not once in the entire history of the Jewish-Yiddish-Hebrew-Yehud people, come into being as its own civilized state, under its own steam. Jews couldn't even build their own temple, but needed help from Persians, the Romans

    "The foundation of the second Temple was laid in the second month of the second year after the Return, but no further headway was made for fifteen or sixteen years, owing to the active interference and positive misrepresentations to the Persian kings by the Samaritans to whom the Jews had denied a share in the work of rebuilding the House of the Lord. Meantime, the Jews themselves lost much of their interest in the reconstruction of the Temple; and it is only in 520 B.C. that the Prophets Aggæus and Zacharias succeeded in rousing them from their supineness. Pecuniary help came too from the Jewish community in Babylon, and also, a little later, from the Persian king. Thus encouraged, they made rapid progress and on 3 March, 515 B.C., the new Temple was solemnly dedicated. The Jewish leaders next started on the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem, and here again met with the hostility of the Samaritans, who complained at the Court of Persia ."

  20. @Clyde
    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven. Or at least I will. Half of Israel's population comes from these Middle East derived Jews and other half from European Jews.
    Meanwhile Islam is conquering Europe via immigration, sucking up Euro-welfare system's money and converting this into explosive birthrates. For Europe's future demographics take a look at French and Swedish kindergarten classes. So who is smart and who are the chumps?
    What Lihn Dinh objects to is that the Israelis know how to keep the Muslim wolves at bay as the hapless Europeans cave in/submit/ and self destruct.


    The Expulsion of the Jews from Muslim Countries, 1920-1970: A History of Ongoing Cruelty and Discrimination
    Prof. Shmuel Trigano, November 4, 2010

    Between 1920 and 1970, 900,000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries. The 1940s were a turning point in this tragedy; of those expelled, 600,000 settled in the new state of Israel, and 300,000 in France and the United States. Today, they and their descendents form the majority of the French Jewish community and a large part of Israel’s population.
    In the countries that expelled Jews, a combination of six legal, economic, and political measures aimed at isolating Jews in society was instituted: denationalization; legal discrimination; isolation and sequestration; economic despoilment; socioeconomic discrimination; and pogroms or similar acts.
    It is the custom to say that Zionism was responsible for this development. However, the region’s anti-Semitism would have developed even without the rise of the state of Israel because of Arab-Islamic nationalism, which resulted in xenophobia.
    http://jcpa.org/article/the-expulsion-of-the-jews-from-muslim-countries-1920-1970-a-history-of-ongoing-cruelty-and-discrimination/
     

    Muslim wolves?? What about the Americans??

    Albright interview:
    On May 12, 1996, Madeleine Albright (then U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations) appeared on a 60 Minutes segment in which Lesley Stahl asked her “We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?” and Albright replied “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it.” Albright wrote later that Saddam Hussein, not the sanctions, was to blame. She criticized Stahl’s segment as “amount[ing] to Iraqi propaganda”; said that her question was a loaded question;[63][64] wrote “I had fallen into a trap and said something I did not mean”;[65] and regretted coming “across as cold-blooded and cruel”.[66] The segment won an Emmy Award.[45][67] Albright’s “non-denial” was taken by sanctions opponents as confirmation of a high number of sanctions related casualties.[57][63]
    (Wikipedia)

    Iraq Sanctions imposed by UN Security Council at request of US and UK.
    New York Times. December 1, 1995
    UNITED NATIONS, Nov. 30— As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/01/world/iraq-sanctions-kill-children-un-reports.html

    Denis J. Halliday (born c.1941)[1] was the United Nations Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq from 1 September 1997 until 1998.
    I was driven to resignation because I refused to continue to take Security Council orders, the same Security Council that had imposed and sustained genocidal sanctions on the innocent of Iraq. I did not want to be complicit. I wanted to be free to speak out publicly about this crime.
    And above all, my innate sense of justice was and still is outraged by the violence that UN sanctions have brought upon, and continues to bring upon, the lives of children, families – the extended families, the loved ones of Iraq. There is no justification for killing the young people of Iraq, not the aged, not the sick, not the rich, not the poor.
    (Wikipedia)

    Hans von Sponeck
    After Denis Halliday resigned as UN Humanitarian Coordinator for Iraq in October 1998, Sponeck took over, heading all UN operations in Iraq and managing the Iraqi operations of the Oil-for-Food Programme.[1] In February 2000, Sponeck and Jutta Burghardt, head of the UN World Food Programme in Iraq, both resigned for the same reason as Halliday, to protest against the Iraq sanctions policy of the UN. Sponeck and Halliday wrote an article in The Guardian explaining their position, accusing the sanctions regime of violating the Geneva Conventions and other international laws and causing the death of thousands of Iraqis. (Wikipedia)

    From Global Research:
    US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children
    Statement by Professor Francis Boyle, Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal
    Approximately 3.3 million Iraqis, including 750,000 children, were “exterminated” by economic sanctions and/or illegal wars conducted by the U.S. and Great Britain between 1990 and 2012, an eminent international legal authority says.
    The slaughter fits the classic definition of Genocide Convention Article II of, “Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part,” says Francis Boyle, professor of international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign, and who in 1991 filed a class-action complaint with the UN against President George H.W. Bush.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-2012-killed-3-3-million-including-750000-children/5314461

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    • Replies: @Druid
    Well countered, mate! The psychos on so many sites so easily demonize Muslims as a group are blind to their immoral wars, regime changes, murders, false flags, Ziofascist obsessions, end of time BS, etc
  21. Dear Linh,

    The election of Barack Obama, eight years ago, was due to no uncertainty that he was the only qualified candidate who had been “on record” for having opposed the catastrophic Iraq war.

    And for many, there was a quiet understanding that his redemption of our nation for this awful crime was to be found in his completing the long standing “two state solution” and bringing peace not only to the Holy Land, but the world.

    Under Obama, the role of the United States was supposed to transform from that of a belligerent, criminal, war instigator…to a benevolent, powerful, peace maker.

    The preemptive “Nobel Peace Prize”, the “Cairo speech” and the visit by Joe Biden to Israel were all clear signals that redemption through peace, was the highest priority of his administration.

    The coterie of Neocon think tankers, oligarchs, Media moguls and special interest groups who ‘defrauded ‘ the American people into the titanic Iraq fiasco, were wholly discredited.

    Looking back, it may be one of our nations greatest tragedies that they were merely sidelined and not arrested on charges of committing the supreme “terrorist” act,……” lying us into a war of aggression”.

    One can only imagine where we would all be today, if they were the ones rightly reposited to Guantanamo Bay.

    Sadly, the Obama administration not only failed to close the “two state” deal, and bring peace, but continued (albeit reluctantly) with the pre-planned neocon rampage throughout the middle east, by “midwifing” the destruction of Libya, Syria and Yemen…..the continued collapse of Iraq…..and fully funding our decades old occupation of Afghanistan.

    Those in the know, are well aware, too, that the entire “Iran crisis”, was largely fabricated to DERAIL the completion of the implementation of the peace plan (for Palestine) by the P5 +1.

    King Bibi’s tactic of substituting the imminent Iran “nuclear threat”, for his having to make peace with the state of Palestine…worked like a charm.

    Obama was forced to spend the final three years of his administration hammering out the Iran agreement, letting any meaningful actions on the two state solution, slip by the wayside.

    The final counter blow that President Obama struck, for all these shenanigans, was the abstention at the UN last week on the condemnation of Israeli settlements.

    Although President Obama failed in the central task for which he was elected, he did permit a certain “glasnost” in Americans understanding of the Israel/Palestine conflict, which heretofore had been wholly “verboten”.

    Wholly Verboten !

    Obama played a double game…..the more Israel postponed making peace…the more “real” history of the dynamics of Israel/Palestine was permitted to be disclosed and digested by the American electorate …..and the world.

    The more King Bibi stalled the peace process…the more the curtain was “pulled back” on the actual horrors that befell the Palestinians…and the crimes committed against them, by the “morally perfect” Israel.

    The “truth will out” as Shakespeare once said.

    Consider that for nearly five decades, any mention by ANYONE, in US discourse, as to the reality of the “Nakba” and the brutal ethnic cleansing of Palestinians during the birth pangs of the “Jewish State” was understood as the very pinnacle of “Blood Libel” against ALL of World Jewry….the very quintessential definition of “Antisemitic Hate Speech”…baseless, bereft of fact, and wholly inaccurate.

    Israel was created as a” land without a people for a people without a land”…and ANY deviation from this understanding, was total “heresy”…..a moral abomination equivalent to “Holocaust denial”.

    Peace may have escaped us, but the very fact that Secretary Kerry was able to even mention the “Nakba”, in an open political forum on US soil , is quite astonishing….

    Quite astonishing indeed.

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  22. Watch “Christian” TV, it is a 24/7 advertisement to be loyal to Israel. From raising money to “help poor Israeli’s afford Passover”, to sponsoring trips to Israel to be milked form money.

    Or “military” TV, which I was observing the other day try to sell US on the idea that Syria was building “weapons of mass destruction”.

    Point is we are handed propaganda from every angle every minute of everyday, to support the criminals in Israel, and their Zionist supporters.

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  23. @Mao Cheng Ji
    US geopolitical strategists view it as an asset. Huge military base in the middle of a super-important region. An extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines.

    Consequently, all the 'human rights' stuff, outrage at some group's sufferings, etc. -- none of that is applicable here, as that only can be used for discrediting the US enemies. End of story. It will keep going the way it is until the price of doing it is too high (and then some, probably).

    US geopolitical strategists view it as an asset. Huge military base in the middle of a super-important region. An extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines.

    It is true that there are US Gentiles who think that way. The Project for a New America Century has Gentiles in it. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and others. But they are surrounded by Jews – Jews fund them.

    The same with defense contractors – many of them have Jews on their boards of directors. Boeing a proud born and bred quintessential State of Washington company moved its headquarters to high tax Jew infested Chicago – Hmm – Why?

    The same with the geopolitical CIA, state department, et al. They all have Jew minders.

    Without Jew interference, the Gentile geopolitical warmongers would be swamped by the American people’s natural tendency to be isolationists (Jew media – “isolationists” are evil and bad, irresponsible slackers).

    Without the heavy hand of AIPAC, would congress be so war minded – NO!

    It’s the Jews folks – they are the power behind the US geopolitical throne!

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    • Agree: Mark Green
    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji

    many of them have Jews on their boards of directors
     
    What you write seems silly to me. People in the picture on top of this page look like individuals I would identify as 'Jews'. But those appear to be against supporting Israel. People sitting on boards of directors typically have no religion or ethnicity. They do business. Money is their religion. You think they're fanatics loyal to some far-away piece of land, but in fact they'd probably sell their own parents for more stock options. Don't make sense, sorry.
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    @Carlton Meyer
    Most of Syria is part of the "Promised Land" described in the Bible. So it belongs to the Jews! Israel openly annexed Syria's Golan Heights many years ago and the world did nothing except refuse to recognize this. Does this explain Obama's senseless support for the overthrow of popular and moderate President Assad by arming foreign Jihadists? Note that Israel conducts airstrikes in Syria on a weekly basis, and even missile attacks. http://defense-update.com/20161208_israels-precision-rockets.html

    When "radical" ISIS reached Israel's border two years ago, these hard core Islamist didn't attempt to cross. They never fired mortars, rockets, or bullets across the fence. Israel even provided medical aid to wounded ISIS Jihadists.

    If Assad goes, so goes Syria. It would be a chaotic mess and Israel would be justified to invade to establish a huge "security zone", now cleared of Syrians killed or refugeed. Jewish settlements would appear in these occupied territories, as they did in the Golan. None of this is disclosed or discussed in the American media. But it does explain why nearly all American political leaders chant "Assad Must Go!" yet refuse to explain why.

    I think it goes beyond a potential land grab. Israel has sought to weaken any potential enemies by creating a chaotic mess. Countries with internal strife, civil war, don’t project strategic threats outside their borders. I know, it does sound like textbook demonic crap. The devil uses the very same tactics.

    Israel (neocons) is responsible for Iraq, Libya, now Syria. Initially the targets (Clean Break) included Iran as well, but Russia has since been added to the list. This is why you hear the neocon ventriloquist dummies (e.g., Fox News, Congress, etc.) calling Russia an enemy, calling for greater sanctions against Russia, Obama expelling Russian diplomats, etc. This after Russia is accused of hacking a private email server. But when China hacks a U.S. federal government agency and steals the data of millions of people with security clearances, well, crickets.

    Cybercrime
    OPM hack: China blamed for massive breach of US government data

    US Representative Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House select intelligence committee, said: “The last few months have seen a series of massive data breaches that have affected millions of Americans.

    He called the latest intrusion “among the most shocking because Americans may expect that federal computer networks are maintained with state-of-the-art defences”.

    Hebrew Congressman Adam Schiff sounds so measured regarding China hack. Just beef up cyber security in response. But with Russia:

    Rep. Schiff: Congress will push for Russia sanctions if Trump undoes Obama’s action.

    We’ve got aluminum tubes, reports of yellow cake purchases, and grainy satellite photos with indefinable objects circled. Let’s declare war! What, you’re against defending America?? You traitor!

    How many countries must a people and its pseudo-country destroy??

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  25. @The Grate Deign
    Add to that: Just based on observing the modern dar al Islam, you'd have to conclude that a Moslem state never really becomes all that civilized.

    you’d have to conclude that a Moslem state never really becomes all that civilized.

    What a fascinating thing to say:

    A “Jewish state” has never, not once in the entire history of the Jewish-Yiddish-Hebrew-Yehud people, come into being as its own civilized state, under its own steam. Jews couldn’t even build their own temple, but needed help from Persians, the Romans

    “The foundation of the second Temple was laid in the second month of the second year after the Return, but no further headway was made for fifteen or sixteen years, owing to the active interference and positive misrepresentations to the Persian kings by the Samaritans to whom the Jews had denied a share in the work of rebuilding the House of the Lord. Meantime, the Jews themselves lost much of their interest in the reconstruction of the Temple; and it is only in 520 B.C. that the Prophets Aggæus and Zacharias succeeded in rousing them from their supineness. Pecuniary help came too from the Jewish community in Babylon, and also, a little later, from the Persian king. Thus encouraged, they made rapid progress and on 3 March, 515 B.C., the new Temple was solemnly dedicated. The Jewish leaders next started on the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem, and here again met with the hostility of the Samaritans, who complained at the Court of Persia .”

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    STC,

    I'll take that as concurrence with my comments about Moslem states. ;-P

    PLT,

    The Grate Deign
  26. You know what, I am of the opposite opinion. Israel doesn’t bother me so much, diaspora Jews bother me more. I think all Jews from Europe and the US could go to Israel, or Greater Israel for that matter, and stay there. Having their own nation would solve a lot of problems for us and for them.

    Let’s say Israel ends, where will all the Israeli Jews go? That’s right, US and Europe again. Or maybe China and Russia, who knows. Will they be well received? I doubt it. So for me they can remain in Israel.

    Of course, the problem Jews have with Arabs will remain, and it is probably no easy way to solve it.

    As for Palestinians, I don’t really think it was a country before, just a territory. I mean they are Arabs and many countries in that region had arbitrary borders created by the colonizers. What’s the difference between Palestinians, Jordanians and Syrians, for instance? Is there any ethnic difference (other than Sunni and Shia and other religious differences), or is it just the geographical region where they were born? (I really don’t know, I am asking).

    This does not mean of course that Palestinians are not suffering or being oppressed, or that they do not have legitimate grievances or nationalism. I think they do. But I really don’t know how to solve their problem.

    As for “stealing the land”, all countries in the Americas started like that, and a few in Europe too. I guess if Israel remains for a few hundred years it will be OK then? How long do you have to exist to become legitimate in the eyes of history?

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    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    "As for Palestinians, I don’t really think it was a country before, just a territory. I mean they are Arabs and many countries in that region had arbitrary borders created by the colonizers."

    The Palestinians' national aspirations are analogous to those of all the territories that were under the heel of the Ottoman Turks prior to WW1: present=day Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Trans-Jordan, etc. Very important to distinguish between Arabs and Turks. The Turks were teh original oppressors in the area. The WW1 allies, esp. Britain, really betrayed all of these national leaders when they literally drew lines on maps to create Iraq, Syria, Trans-Jordan, etc., put the House of Saud in charge of Saudi Arabia instead of the Hashemites (to whom they gave Trans-Jordan). Mainly they threw the Palestinians under the bus at the behest of Britain when Palestine became the de facto locus for a Jewish state following WW1 isntead of creating teh state that they wanted, which I think at that time included current Lebanon and TransJordan but not sure about exactly what was planned to belong to the new state Palestine at that time.
    No time now to provide an exposition on all of this, but an excellent source is Peter Mansfield (a Brit), The Arabs. Here you can read, in a book published in 1976, before the current round of acrimony, of the ongoing and invariable intransigence of the Jews when it came to negotiating with the Palestinians or any other Arabs. They always refused any compromise and threw tantrums until they got exactly what they wanted. With a lot of enabling from the Americans.

    Another excellent source for, literally, the process of line drawing on maps is Janet Wallach, Desert Queen (bio of Gertrude Bell, 1868--1926, who did a lot of the line drawing; she was the only one who had any understanding of the tribal politics, etc.). Both of these are available as cheap secondhand paperbacks. Re Bell, you can skip the early chapters and start with chapter 5, "First Steps in the Desert." When Bell traveled to Jerusalem to learn Arabic in ca. 1890 it was in PALESTINE.

  27. @Sherman
    "The end of Israel is within sight"

    Ha!

    I remember when I was in college in the late 1980s a lefty professor told my class that Israel had only about twenty years left. He claimed Israel would inevitably collapse under the weight of a booming Arab population within its borders and technological advances of Arab militaries.

    Today Israel is stronger and wealthier than ever. For all its "apartheid" status much of the world is lining up to do business with it. Even Arab and Muslim countries want to trade with it.

    (Have you read about Azerbaijan and Israel lately?).

    Israel even has oil and gas!

    Israel's conflict with the Palestinians is just an annoying sideshow to the greater dysfunctions in the Mideast. Even the Arabs don't really care about the Palestinians any more.

    That said, I believe Israel would be better off if it stopped building these silly settlements and even dismantled many of them. But I don't think this would make any difference. The Palestinians will inevitably reject any Israel peace overtures (as they have done repeatedly).

    a lefty professor told my class that Israel had only about twenty years left.

    No doubt this will coincide with the rise of Brazil as a super power.

    You didn’t harm the goat, did you?

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    • Replies: @Sherman
    Actually, when I was in college everyone was predicting Japan was going to take over the world with its invincible economy.

    Even my economics professor said this.

    A bunch of my friends took Japanese lessons and spent a semester in Japan because they thought learning Japanese would be important in the future.

    These predictions about Japan didn't exactly turn out correctly.

    People predict all sorts of nonsense, just like Linh Dinh is doing now.
  28. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Sherman
    "The end of Israel is within sight"

    Ha!

    I remember when I was in college in the late 1980s a lefty professor told my class that Israel had only about twenty years left. He claimed Israel would inevitably collapse under the weight of a booming Arab population within its borders and technological advances of Arab militaries.

    Today Israel is stronger and wealthier than ever. For all its "apartheid" status much of the world is lining up to do business with it. Even Arab and Muslim countries want to trade with it.

    (Have you read about Azerbaijan and Israel lately?).

    Israel even has oil and gas!

    Israel's conflict with the Palestinians is just an annoying sideshow to the greater dysfunctions in the Mideast. Even the Arabs don't really care about the Palestinians any more.

    That said, I believe Israel would be better off if it stopped building these silly settlements and even dismantled many of them. But I don't think this would make any difference. The Palestinians will inevitably reject any Israel peace overtures (as they have done repeatedly).

    Linh Dinh thrives on pessimism. Who is that Stoic philosopher who advocated this view of life? If you have worst case scenario as your weltanschauung you’ll go through life pleasantly surprised by outcomes. Have you read his articles on how the U.S. is doomed (even with Trump in the White House) and will by a third-world clusterfuck pretty soon? Or his articles on Europe and Germany? Great stuff. It keeps my optimism in check.

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  29. @jacques sheete

    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven.
     
    Ya gotta hand it to this crowd. They certainly know how to "one up" the goyim, even if they have to make stuff up.

    If the smart asses are so clever, how come they're not smart enough to lay low for once? Or at least refrain from making nuisances of themselves to the point that they're universally loathed?

    Why can't the smart ones see that lies, murder and theft have a shelf life? Arrogance and chutzpah too.

    If they're so smart why do they not only repeatedly reject their own prophet's admonitions to the point that they even torture and kill 'em? Despite their brains and wealth, they repeatedly think and act like they're above their own G-d's laws.

    Answer me that, oh smarties!

    What's going on in the settlements is the oh-so-clever infiltration (well honed, I might add from constant practice since the expulsion from the Garden) that everyone's supposed to ignore or pretend isn't happening. I bet the serpent was a python.

    The Israelis would never take your style of harebrained advice. This is why they are still around in an ocean of Muslims and doing great economically. They are an exporting super power and hi-tech giant including cutting edge medical high tech. What do the Muslims s give/sell to the world? Oil is about it and frackin is killing them.
    One day your life will be saved by an Israeli medical advance. Or some ailment put on hold or cured.

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    The Israelis would never take your style of harebrained advice. This is why they are still around in an ocean of Muslims and doing great economically.
     
    Ummm, anyone with a lick of sense understands that there's a bit more to it than that.


    They are an exporting super power and hi-tech giant including cutting edge medical high tech.
     
    All Mickey Mouse. Yawn. You sound like a cargo cultist.

    What do the Muslims s give/sell to the world?
     
    Next we'll hear from you that you're part of a super race and all the rest will just have to be exterminated. BTW, you asked the question bass ackwards, but I don't expect you to understand. Just don't expect me to 'splain it to ya, either.


    One day your life will be saved by an Israeli medical advance. Or some ailment put on hold or cured.
     
    So what? The world doesn't revolve around me, but don't ask me to explain. Adolescent narcissists need not apply.
    , @Druid
    Don't forget to mention that a lot of that technology is stolen from the US kleptomaniac Israelis. They claim their high IQ as being respnsible. They have a massive IQ in thuggery and murder. Anything for the cause of this Talmudic trash interpretation of the Torah !
  30. Israel is empty and all the sleazy liars are here.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    Your arguments are getting smaller and smaller.
  31. @Durruti
    Linh Dinh,

    A hard hitting and revealing essay. Congratulations on your courage.

    The successful passage of the United Nations Security Council Resolution is a glowing symbol that the Zionist Land Thieves and their Jewish backers in America, and throughout the world, have lost the blind support that they held from millions, thanks to the overwhelming brainwashing by means of the Jewish control of the Mainstream Media.

    The ugly truth of the Terrorist Zionist Land Thieves is being revealed (little by little).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3RypMScEMQ

    In the last days of 2016, the Palestinians have experienced their best moments, since their General Strike (for Independence), in 1936.

    Conversely, for the Zionist Land Thieves and their Jewish supporters, 2016 was the year their lies were best exposed. They have been condemned as the worst Terrorists since Hitler and the Nazi movement. It is the Zionists who are -Anti-Semites. The Zionists, and most Jews, hate Arabs. Arabs are Semites. Zionists and their Jewish supporters, who treat the Palestinian and other Arab peoples as the untermenschen, are the true Anti-Semites (most Jews are not Semites). My blond haired blue eyed German Jewish (mother's side) family certainly are not Semites; some reside in Tel Aviv, having tossed their morals and radical politics 65 years ago.

    My mother (who was an early organizer of the Teacher's Union and associate of Albert Shanker), insisted on us joining a Protestant Church, when I was 6 and my sister 5. Father was a Christian, and had no objections. Since then, my sister has joined the Mormons, and I, the Catholic Church. I follow the trajectory of Padraic Pearse and Pedro Albizu Campos, who joined the Catholic Church for spiritual and political reasons.

    As an Anarchist:

    I Respect All! And Bow to None!

    Padraic Pearse and Pedro Albizu Campos

    Never heard of ‘em, but a brief Google search yielded some fascinating things. Will need to read some when I’m not pressed for time.

    They remind me of Jose Rizal, the Filipino freedom fighter. Also, it’s guys like these who make mockery of the IQ claims of the “superior” ones.

    LD, do you have any pieces on Vietnamese freedom fighters? I don’t know much about Uncle Ho, but he seems to have been quite a fine dude as well.

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    Hi jacques sheete,

    Communism sought to destroy the fabric of Vietnamse society, but thanks to its slackening, Vietnamese practices (good or bad) and traditions are going through a revival. It's too big a topic to go into here, but my novel, Love Like Hate, is a portrait of 20th century Vietnam.

    A few years ago, I was one of the initiators of Wikivietlit, an online overview of Vietnamese literature. The project never took off, but here are four typical entries (I had to write myself):

    Nam Cao (1915-1951), real name Trần Hữu Trí, was a fiction writer, playwright and poet, as well as an educator and author of a memoir.
    Nam Cao.jpg

    He was born in Hà Nam, went to Nam Định at age 10 to study, got sick and had to return home before graduating from high school. He married at age 18, then took a train to Saigon a few months later to become a secretary for a tailor. In 1936, he published his first stories and poems.

    Returning North that year, he obtained his high school degree, taught at a private school in Hanoi until it was requisitioned by the invading Japanese Army in 1940, forcing him to go to Thái Bình, where he continued to teach. One of his five children died of hunger during the Japanese occupation.

    He joined the Vietminh resistance movement in 1943, then the Communist Party in 1948. He wrote about himself, "He was not suitable for the gun or the sword, so he would have to fight with the pen." In 1951, he was caught by the French in Ninh Bình and executed.

    Nam Cao's 1941 short story,"Chí Phèo", is one of the most celebrated in Vietnamese literature, with its eponymous character an emblem for a type of hapless, desperate, downtrodden yet deeply human individual.
     

    Trần Vàng Sao (1942), real name Nguyễn Đính, is a poet, also a memoirist.

    He was born in Hue. Soon after, his father was killed by the French during the First Indochina War. During the Vietnam War, he contributed to the underground newspaper Thanh Niên Chống Mỹ [Youth against America]. He joined the National Liberation Front in 1965, lived in areas under its control, broadcasting propaganda until 1969, when he was injured and removed to the north.

    In spite of his allegiance to the Communist cause during the war--his pen name, "Vàng Sao," means "Yellow Star," a reference to the national flag--he has been blacklisted since 1972 for his candid depictions of social conditions inside Vietnam. He’s been harassed constantly, even imprisoned, his manuscripts confiscated.

    His poetic voice is bemused, ironic, deliberately banal, a reaction against the dogmatic bombast of many of his contemporaries. His poems have been translated into English and published in the journals American Poetry Review (Vol.28/No.1, Jan/Feb 1999) and The Literary Review (Winter 1999).
     

    Trần Dần (1926-1997), as a novelist, first rallied intellectuals to war against the French, then as poet inspired them to critical resistance to Communist Party domination of public and intellectual life.

    He was born in Nam Định and died in Hanoi. In 1946, he joined the Vietnamese Communist resistance against the French, but by 1953, had fallen out of favor with the Party. In 1956, he was jailed for three months in Hoả Lò Prison (better known to Americans as Hanoi Hilton), where he tried to commit suicide. In 1956-57, he was one of the key members of the dissident group Nhân Văn Giai Phẩm. During 1958-1960, he was condemned to hard labor for months at a time. From 1959 until 1988, he was banned from publishing, although he continued to write novels and poems. His poetry is among the most radical in the history of Vietnamese literature. Phạm Thị Hoài has edited a book of his journal entries Trần Dần – Ghi: 1954-1960 (Paris: TD Mémoire, 2001)

    He is translated into English and included in the anthology, Black Dog, Black Night.
     

    Nguyễn Chí Thiện (1939) is a poet, also the author of short stories and memoirs concerning his life as a political prisoner.

    He was born in Hanoi, the youngest of four children, then moved to Hải Phòng with his family in 1956. His father was a minor official at the court, his mother a small merchant. He contracted tuberculosis in his youth, and never studied beyond high school, although he read and educated himself, and became somewhat proficient in French. His troubles began in December of 1960. Substituting for a sick friend, he taught a high school class and noticed that the history textbook stated that the Soviet Union had defeated the Japanese Army in Manchuria, bringing an end to World War II. Oh no, he told his students, the United States defeated Japan when they dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He paid for this remark with three years and six months in labor camps. There, he met other literary men, composed poems in his head and learned them by heart. In 1966 he was returned to prison after a short release.

    This time the police charged him with composing politically irreverent poems that circulated in Hanoi and Hải Phòng. He denied it, and spent another eleven years and five months in labor camps. Authorities never brought him to trial, for lack of evidence, but they had the right man. The tubercular youth had become an outlaw whose every step and breath counted the beat of verses, poetry against oppression.

    In 1977, two years after Saigon fell, Thien and other political prisoners were released to make room for officers of the Republic of Vietnam. He had been composing poems all the while, and now seized the opportunity of freedom to write them down and bring his art to the world. Two days after Bastille Day, on July 16, 1979, he dashed into the British Embassy at Hanoi with his manuscript of four hundred poems. He had prepared a cover letter in French, but the embassy of France was too closely guarded.

    British diplomats welcomed him and promised to send his manuscript out of the country. When he got out of the Embassy, security agents waited for him at the gate. Dragged to Hỏa Lò prison, the famous Hanoi Hilton now empty of US flyers, he spent another twelve years in jail and prison camps, often in stocks in solitary darkness. It came to a total of twenty-seven years’ imprisonment. But meanwhile, the British diplomats kept their word. His manuscript collection, Hoa địa ngục [Flowers of Hell], appeared in two separate editions overseas.

    Nguyễn Chí Thiện had the great satisfaction of seeing a copy of his book waved in his face by his angry captors. He didn’t know that his poems also were translated into English, French, German, Dutch, Chinese, Spanish, and Korean. They were set to music by the great Phạm Duy and sung around the world. While their author lay in irons, Thiện’s poems won the International Poetry Award in Rotterdam in 1985. Six years later the poet was released from jail, as the socialist world collapsed in 1991. He lived in Hanoi under close watch by the authorities, but his international following also kept an eye on Thiện.

    Human Rights Watch honored him in 1995. That year he emigrated to the United States, due to the intervention of Noburo Masuoka, retired Air Force colonel, a career military officer who was drafted into the U.S. Army from an internment camp for Japanese Americans in 1945. After the normalization of relations with Vietnam, Masuoka was able to arrange special asylum for the poet in the United States. Thiện went to Virginia, the home of his brother, Nguyễn Công Giân, whom he had not seen for forty-one years. Giân himself had lived America only since 1993. A lieutenant colonel in the Army of the Republic of Vietnam, he had been taken to a re-education camp in the North right after the fall of Saigon in 1975, to remain for thirteen years.

    As if released from prison once more, Thiện wrote another book’s worth of poems from memory. The three hundred Vietnamese poems and some select English translations were published in 1996. In 1998, The International Parliament of Writers awarded Nguyễn Chí Thiện a three-year fellowship in France. He lectured around Europe while he wrote and published a collection of short stories, rooted in the reality of his years in Hỏa Lò prison.

    He returned from France to Orange County, California, where he took the oath of American citizenship in 2004. He continues to improve his health and speaks regularly on humanitarian issues of interest to the Vietnamese community.
     
    , @Durruti
    On "Uncle Ho," Google & pick & choose.

    He spent some time in Paris, and his movement were considered Allies (resisted the Japanese), during WW II, until betrayed after the war by the French, and, later, the United States Government.

    Zionist general, Moshe Dayan, recommended the U.S. use Nuclear weapons against the Vietnamese.

    Within the USA, little will change until we:

    Restore the Republic!

    * Most Americans never heard of Pedro Albizu Campos, Puerto Rican Nationalist, imprisoned by the American Government for 20 years and tortured. [Harvard Law School Grad. 2nd Lieut in the American Army. supporter of Irish Independence]

    https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Albizu.jpg&imgrefurl=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Albizu_Campos&h=275&w=168&tbnid=Ch5w_RCJxYqu4M:&vet=1&tbnh=186&tbnw=113&docid=qO3EqaZ6ojFpDM&itg=1&usg=__RIo3TB5vsIfrxDEkcRage4Xz_dg=&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZ2Pbp7KPRAhXGOyYKHeg-BlYQ_B0IcjAK

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwix1-OR76PRAhWGQiYKHbTXDDQQFggaMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPonce_massacre&usg=AFQjCNFmM5u2ioZx2QcKfNuUntxFpORN4g&sig2=a5yTSx-6r43nUaB_VO52mA

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwimg_qg7aPRAhWBVCYKHSy6C0cQFggaMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUnited_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_(1954)&usg=AFQjCNFn0UYFZCW3_JStOQjoN-Wij1SXHA&sig2=IbjMiQ9qrJGfo5vkMBGdD
  32. @Linh Dinh
    Boston Globe, 6/15/03:

    For the past 15 years or so, Kerry says, he knew his paternal grandmother was probably Jewish, and he also knew the Kerrys came from the former Austrian empire. But he said he did not know, until informed by the Globe earlier this year, that his grandfather was a Czech Jew named Fritz Kohn who changed his name to Frederick Kerry to escape a violent strain of anti-Semitism. According to a story passed down to at least one family member, Kohn and his siblings randomly dropped a pencil on a map of Europe, spotted Ireland's County Kerry, and adopted the name. Kohn and his wife, Ida Lowe, who was born Jewish in Budapest, changed their name to Kerry, were baptized as Catholics in 1902, and immigrated to the United States in 1905.
     
    Haaretz, 12/21/12:

    When Kerry was Kohn: The Jewish roots of John Kerry
    Dina Kraft

    BOSTON – Senator John Kerry, with his mother’s New England patrician pedigree and his Irish last name actually has a grandfather who was born a Jew in the former Austro-Hungarian Empire.

    The news was a revelation to Kerry himself, who only found out about his Jewish roots while running in the 2004 presidential election.

    His paternal grandfather Frederick A. Kerry, was born Fritz Kohn in a town in what today is the Czech Republic before changing his name ahead of his immigration to the United States a century ago.

    Kerry is a long-time U.S. Senator representing Massachusetts, who was nominated Friday by President Barack Obama as his next secretary of state.

    Kerry, if confirmed in the position, will not be the first U.S. Secretary of State to have discovered a Jewish family past later in life.

    In 1997 Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who was born in Prague, learned three of her four grandparents were Jewish.

    In more immediate Jewish family ties, Kerry’s brother Cameron converted to Judaism after marrying Kathy Weinman, a Jewish woman and fellow lawyer he met on the job at a Washington law firm.

    In 1994 as his brother campaigned for president, Cameron Kerry, known as Cam, traveled to Israel for the first time on what was termed a “private visit” that was arranged by a branch of AIPAC. Accompanying him on that trip was Kerry’s top advisor on Mideast and Jewish affairs.

    During the visit he recalled finding out about his family’s Jewish roots and calling up his in-laws to tell them the news.

    “I called up Kathy's parents and said 'I'm Jewish,' and they said, 'Yeah we know' and I said, 'No, I'm really Jewish,'" he said in an interview with JTA at the time.
     

    Dammit!!

    Does this mean that now I cannot openly ridicule Lurch without being accused of anti-Semitism?

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  33. Another apartheid country, South Africa, had to remake itself after becoming delegitimized and universally condemned, so the end of Israel is within sight. Without this endless font of strife and mendacity, the world will be a much better place. Amen.

    Your prediction might have better prospects if the “remaking” of South Africa had worked a little better. As it stands – not so much.

    I think ye do err if you expect the Israelis to go gently into that night.

    Expecting the world to suddenly become “a much better place” is just silly.

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  34. @jacques sheete

    Padraic Pearse and Pedro Albizu Campos
     
    Never heard of 'em, but a brief Google search yielded some fascinating things. Will need to read some when I'm not pressed for time.

    They remind me of Jose Rizal, the Filipino freedom fighter. Also, it's guys like these who make mockery of the IQ claims of the "superior" ones.

    LD, do you have any pieces on Vietnamese freedom fighters? I don't know much about Uncle Ho, but he seems to have been quite a fine dude as well.

    Hi jacques sheete,

    Communism sought to destroy the fabric of Vietnamse society, but thanks to its slackening, Vietnamese practices (good or bad) and traditions are going through a revival. It’s too big a topic to go into here, but my novel, Love Like Hate, is a portrait of 20th century Vietnam.

    A few years ago, I was one of the initiators of Wikivietlit, an online overview of Vietnamese literature. The project never took off, but here are four typical entries (I had to write myself):

    Nam Cao (1915-1951), real name Trần Hữu Trí, was a fiction writer, playwright and poet, as well as an educator and author of a memoir.
    Nam Cao.jpg

    He was born in Hà Nam, went to Nam Định at age 10 to study, got sick and had to return home before graduating from high school. He married at age 18, then took a train to Saigon a few months later to become a secretary for a tailor. In 1936, he published his first stories and poems.

    Returning North that year, he obtained his high school degree, taught at a private school in Hanoi until it was requisitioned by the invading Japanese Army in 1940, forcing him to go to Thái Bình, where he continued to teach. One of his five children died of hunger during the Japanese occupation.

    He joined the Vietminh resistance movement in 1943, then the Communist Party in 1948. He wrote about himself, “He was not suitable for the gun or the sword, so he would have to fight with the pen.” In 1951, he was caught by the French in Ninh Bình and executed.

    Nam Cao’s 1941 short story,”Chí Phèo”, is one of the most celebrated in Vietnamese literature, with its eponymous character an emblem for a type of hapless, desperate, downtrodden yet deeply human individual.

    Trần Vàng Sao (1942), real name Nguyễn Đính, is a poet, also a memoirist.

    He was born in Hue. Soon after, his father was killed by the French during the First Indochina War. During the Vietnam War, he contributed to the underground newspaper Thanh Niên Chống Mỹ [Youth against America]. He joined the National Liberation Front in 1965, lived in areas under its control, broadcasting propaganda until 1969, when he was injured and removed to the north.

    In spite of his allegiance to the Communist cause during the war–his pen name, “Vàng Sao,” means “Yellow Star,” a reference to the national flag–he has been blacklisted since 1972 for his candid depictions of social conditions inside Vietnam. He’s been harassed constantly, even imprisoned, his manuscripts confiscated.

    His poetic voice is bemused, ironic, deliberately banal, a reaction against the dogmatic bombast of many of his contemporaries. His poems have been translated into English and published in the journals American Poetry Review (Vol.28/No.1, Jan/Feb 1999) and The Literary Review (Winter 1999).

    Trần Dần (1926-1997), as a novelist, first rallied intellectuals to war against the French, then as poet inspired them to critical resistance to Communist Party domination of public and intellectual life.

    He was born in Nam Định and died in Hanoi. In 1946, he joined the Vietnamese Communist resistance against the French, but by 1953, had fallen out of favor with the Party. In 1956, he was jailed for three months in Hoả Lò Prison (better known to Americans as Hanoi Hilton), where he tried to commit suicide. In 1956-57, he was one of the key members of the dissident group Nhân Văn Giai Phẩm. During 1958-1960, he was condemned to hard labor for months at a time. From 1959 until 1988, he was banned from publishing, although he continued to write novels and poems. His poetry is among the most radical in the history of Vietnamese literature. Phạm Thị Hoài has edited a book of his journal entries Trần Dần – Ghi: 1954-1960 (Paris: TD Mémoire, 2001)

    He is translated into English and included in the anthology, Black Dog, Black Night.

    Nguyễn Chí Thiện (1939) is a poet, also the author of short stories and memoirs concerning his life as a political prisoner.

    He was born in Hanoi, the youngest of four children, then moved to Hải Phòng with his family in 1956. His father was a minor official at the court, his mother a small merchant. He contracted tuberculosis in his youth, and never studied beyond high school, although he read and educated himself, and became somewhat proficient in French. His troubles began in December of 1960. Substituting for a sick friend, he taught a high school class and noticed that the history textbook stated that the Soviet Union had defeated the Japanese Army in Manchuria, bringing an end to World War II. Oh no, he told his students, the United States defeated Japan when they dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He paid for this remark with three years and six months in labor camps. There, he met other literary men, composed poems in his head and learned them by heart. In 1966 he was returned to prison after a short release.

    This time the police charged him with composing politically irreverent poems that circulated in Hanoi and Hải Phòng. He denied it, and spent another eleven years and five months in labor camps. Authorities never brought him to trial, for lack of evidence, but they had the right man. The tubercular youth had become an outlaw whose every step and breath counted the beat of verses, poetry against oppression.

    In 1977, two years after Saigon fell, Thien and other political prisoners were released to make room for officers of the Republic of Vietnam. He had been composing poems all the while, and now seized the opportunity of freedom to write them down and bring his art to the world. Two days after Bastille Day, on July 16, 1979, he dashed into the British Embassy at Hanoi with his manuscript of four hundred poems. He had prepared a cover letter in French, but the embassy of France was too closely guarded.

    British diplomats welcomed him and promised to send his manuscript out of the country. When he got out of the Embassy, security agents waited for him at the gate. Dragged to Hỏa Lò prison, the famous Hanoi Hilton now empty of US flyers, he spent another twelve years in jail and prison camps, often in stocks in solitary darkness. It came to a total of twenty-seven years’ imprisonment. But meanwhile, the British diplomats kept their word. His manuscript collection, Hoa địa ngục [Flowers of Hell], appeared in two separate editions overseas.

    Nguyễn Chí Thiện had the great satisfaction of seeing a copy of his book waved in his face by his angry captors. He didn’t know that his poems also were translated into English, French, German, Dutch, Chinese, Spanish, and Korean. They were set to music by the great Phạm Duy and sung around the world. While their author lay in irons, Thiện’s poems won the International Poetry Award in Rotterdam in 1985. Six years later the poet was released from jail, as the socialist world collapsed in 1991. He lived in Hanoi under close watch by the authorities, but his international following also kept an eye on Thiện.

    Human Rights Watch honored him in 1995. That year he emigrated to the United States, due to the intervention of Noburo Masuoka, retired Air Force colonel, a career military officer who was drafted into the U.S. Army from an internment camp for Japanese Americans in 1945. After the normalization of relations with Vietnam, Masuoka was able to arrange special asylum for the poet in the United States. Thiện went to Virginia, the home of his brother, Nguyễn Công Giân, whom he had not seen for forty-one years. Giân himself had lived America only since 1993. A lieutenant colonel in the Army of the Republic of Vietnam, he had been taken to a re-education camp in the North right after the fall of Saigon in 1975, to remain for thirteen years.

    As if released from prison once more, Thiện wrote another book’s worth of poems from memory. The three hundred Vietnamese poems and some select English translations were published in 1996. In 1998, The International Parliament of Writers awarded Nguyễn Chí Thiện a three-year fellowship in France. He lectured around Europe while he wrote and published a collection of short stories, rooted in the reality of his years in Hỏa Lò prison.

    He returned from France to Orange County, California, where he took the oath of American citizenship in 2004. He continues to improve his health and speaks regularly on humanitarian issues of interest to the Vietnamese community.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete

    Communism sought to destroy the fabric of Vietnamse society,
     
    Yes. And it comes as no surprise to me since Marxists were supported by big money which in turn was made by colonialists who had already been busy tearing societies to shreds for centuries. Orwell's last sentence in Animal Farm was spot on.

    “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

    ― George Orwell, Animal Farm
     

    Here's Mencken with a similar comment.

    The Pinks have a magnificent capacity for mistaking Freudian wishes for objective facts, but they are still in sufficient contact with reality to know, if only subconsciously, that the difference between Communism and Fascism is fundamentally very slight, and that the one always tends to turn into the other.

    - H.L. Mencken, The American Future The American Mercury, February 1937, pp. 129-136
    https://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1937feb-00129
     


    but thanks to its slackening, Vietnamese practices (good or bad) and traditions are going through a revival.
     
    I am very happy to hear that.
    , @jacques sheete
    LD...

    Those "entries" you wrote are stunning. What a difference between those guys and the punk American "heroes" of today.


    Cảm ơn anh
    , @Eagle Eye
    Interesting. Chí Phèo sounds like a Vietnamese version of "The True Story of Ah Q" by Lu Xun.

    Of course, noting that Vietnamese culture has been significantly influenced by China is taboo among semi-educated Westerners who live in eternal terror of being accused of the heresy of - gasp! - "Orientalism." To adepts of PC purity, non-Western cultures are by definition noble and pure, never influenced by each other or the West.

    In fact, the millenia of interplay between native Vietnamese, Chinese and many other influences should be a fascinating field.

    Indeed, the mass murder and expulsion of "Hoa" (ethnic Chinese in Vietnam) by the prevailing North Vietnamese after 1975 indicates that the issue of ethnic and cultural identity was viewed as a life-and-death issue until quite recently and probably remains so today albeit in less open form. (One recalls, of course, that Vietnam war leaders had experienced Japan's brand of ethnic supremacist ideology at first hand during WW II.)

  35. @5371
    Israel is empty and all the sleazy liars are here.

    Your arguments are getting smaller and smaller.

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    The Washington Post (1/1/17):

    Venezuelan Jews are moving to Israel to escape deepening poverty https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/venezuelan-jews-are-moving-to-israel-to-escape-deepening-poverty/2017/01/01/437d015b-8676-49ed-89d3-1edc0a57418e_story.html?utm_term=.474f561e792a

    …Last year, the U.S.-based Anti-Defamation League condemned a magazine for using anti-Semitic imagery on its cover that suggested the country’s economic problems were brought on by wealthy people of “Israelite origin.”

    “For several years we have seen anti-Semitic accusations and themes appear in Venezuelan public discourse,” said Jonathan A. Greenblatt, chief executive of the ADL, responding to the magazine’s cover in August. “This shockingly graphic manifestation of anti-Semitic imagery on full display on Venezuelan newsstands is unacceptable and repulsive.”…

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Will this miracle work for the USA too?
    , @Druid
    The suggestion that they were responsible in large part is true!
  37. @jacques sheete

    Padraic Pearse and Pedro Albizu Campos
     
    Never heard of 'em, but a brief Google search yielded some fascinating things. Will need to read some when I'm not pressed for time.

    They remind me of Jose Rizal, the Filipino freedom fighter. Also, it's guys like these who make mockery of the IQ claims of the "superior" ones.

    LD, do you have any pieces on Vietnamese freedom fighters? I don't know much about Uncle Ho, but he seems to have been quite a fine dude as well.

    On “Uncle Ho,” Google & pick & choose.

    He spent some time in Paris, and his movement were considered Allies (resisted the Japanese), during WW II, until betrayed after the war by the French, and, later, the United States Government.

    Zionist general, Moshe Dayan, recommended the U.S. use Nuclear weapons against the Vietnamese.

    Within the USA, little will change until we:

    Restore the Republic!

    * Most Americans never heard of Pedro Albizu Campos, Puerto Rican Nationalist, imprisoned by the American Government for 20 years and tortured. [Harvard Law School Grad. 2nd Lieut in the American Army. supporter of Irish Independence]

    https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Albizu.jpg&imgrefurl=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Albizu_Campos&h=275&w=168&tbnid=Ch5w_RCJxYqu4M:&vet=1&tbnh=186&tbnw=113&docid=qO3EqaZ6ojFpDM&itg=1&usg=__RIo3TB5vsIfrxDEkcRage4Xz_dg=&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZ2Pbp7KPRAhXGOyYKHeg-BlYQ_B0IcjAK

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwix1-OR76PRAhWGQiYKHbTXDDQQFggaMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPonce_massacre&usg=AFQjCNFmM5u2ioZx2QcKfNuUntxFpORN4g&sig2=a5yTSx-6r43nUaB_VO52mA

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwimg_qg7aPRAhWBVCYKHSy6C0cQFggaMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUnited_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_(1954)&usg=AFQjCNFn0UYFZCW3_JStOQjoN-Wij1SXHA&sig2=IbjMiQ9qrJGfo5vkMBGdD

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    On “Uncle Ho,” Google & pick & choose.
     
    I asked because I was hoping to hear LD's personal suggestions and insights. I guess he told me, with the comment that the Commies sought to destroy society (which they did), what he thinks of "Uncle" Ho. I was brought up in a very comprehensive Roman Catholic tradition of long standing and loathing of Comminizm was imbibed along with me mother's milk and is still part of my bones.

    However, I learned only one part of the story, and have since learned that there are many parts to it and I retain a probably pathologic curiosity about them.

    Anyway, Googling, both random and focused, is a favorite sport of mine and I did just that for the guys you mentioned, and I thank you.

    I really need to read up on this dude...Pedro Albizu Campos. I find it amazing and tragic that a guy like that is so obscure.
  38. @Art
    US geopolitical strategists view it as an asset. Huge military base in the middle of a super-important region. An extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines.

    It is true that there are US Gentiles who think that way. The Project for a New America Century has Gentiles in it. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and others. But they are surrounded by Jews - Jews fund them.

    The same with defense contractors - many of them have Jews on their boards of directors. Boeing a proud born and bred quintessential State of Washington company moved its headquarters to high tax Jew infested Chicago – Hmm - Why?

    The same with the geopolitical CIA, state department, et al. They all have Jew minders.

    Without Jew interference, the Gentile geopolitical warmongers would be swamped by the American people’s natural tendency to be isolationists (Jew media - "isolationists" are evil and bad, irresponsible slackers).

    Without the heavy hand of AIPAC, would congress be so war minded – NO!

    It’s the Jews folks – they are the power behind the US geopolitical throne!

    Peace --- Art

    many of them have Jews on their boards of directors

    What you write seems silly to me. People in the picture on top of this page look like individuals I would identify as ‘Jews’. But those appear to be against supporting Israel. People sitting on boards of directors typically have no religion or ethnicity. They do business. Money is their religion. You think they’re fanatics loyal to some far-away piece of land, but in fact they’d probably sell their own parents for more stock options. Don’t make sense, sorry.

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    People (Jews) sitting on boards of directors typically have no religion or ethnicity. They do business. Money is their religion.

    Sorry – but I must disagree. It is naive to think that Jews do not work together – that they do not act together as a tribal team in money matters, social maters, and political matters. It is naive to think that they do not use their positions in organizations to do Jew political business.

    Fellow Jews put pressure on them to do Jew political and social business --- end of story.
  39. @Kyle McKenna
    Please, no premature celebrations. They've as much as promised to take the USA down with them when and if they go..

    ETA: "Obama must have gotten a kick out of having a Jew, Kerry, shame the Jewish homeland."

    Linh, tell me you did not just say that John Kerry is of the Tribe. What's wrong with you?

    A person who is born to a Jewish mother is Jewish. It’s that simple.
    John Kerry was born to Rosemary Forbes, and his mother was Episcopalian.
    He is not a born (or converted) Jew. Has some Ashkenazi DNA though.
    As do Michael Douglass, Robert Downey Jr. and Sean Penn whose mothers
    were all Christian European. Ditto for Paul Newman. All well born IMO.

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    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    "A person who is born to a Jewish mother is Jewish. It’s that simple."

    It's that simple for the tribal Jews.
    For everyone else it is nonsense.
    Half a person's DNA comes from each parent.
    Legally, the nationality (if that is your pleasure) is generally determined by the father's nationality.
    If the grandfather was a Czech Jew, then Kerry is 1/4 Jew.
    He should be proud of his heritage. (Of course, acknowledging Jewish forebears might have affected Kerry's eligibility for Scull and Bones at Yale.)

    I always found it pretty hard to believe that neither Albright nor Kerry "knew" that they descended from Jews. Come on. Don't these highly intelligent, well-educated people have a smidgin of curiosity? None of this would really matter nowadays if (1) the State of Israel had never been founded and (2) so many American secular Jews had not therefore been transformed into Zionists and Israel supporters and, actually, hysterics ("It could still happen here!!! They have a right to shoot those boys throwing rocks!!") by the existence and demands of the State of Israel.
    , @Hibernian
    Reform Judaism has begun to recognize patriarchal descent lately.
  40. @Lot

    Stealing land is Israel’s core and DNA.
     
    You just say this. Both the Bible, genetic history, and the right of conquest that established the borders of nearly every country all say the West Bank is rightfully Israel's.

    The Golan Heights were taken after Syria twice invaded Israel.

    Hasbarist hilarity.

    The Bible says so? LOL

    Actually Syria defended itself from that “shitty little county”.

    and:
    Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine

    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/

    And why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869?

    Must reads:
    Holocaust Handbooks & Documentaries

    http://holocausthandbooks.com

    and:

    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Jesus, you're stupid. That Times of Israel piece you linked to is satire. So either you didn't actually read it or you didn't understand it. So which is it? Are you irresponsible or just retarded?
    , @Karl
    42 Wally> The Bible says so? LOL

    so you also reject American-Indian claims that they should be able to exclude others, and shut down usage of - their "sacred places" ?




    Is Linh Dinh cool with me tearing up Buddhist sacred places in Vietnam?
  41. @biz
    Meh, whatever. The restoration of Jewish independence in a tiny fraction of the land that was forcibly conquered and colonized by Islamic interlopers is one of the triumphs of humanity of the 20th century. The preservation of that independence in the face of four wars of genocidal intent started by the Arabs, as well as the largest and silliest sustained propaganda barrage in the history of the world is an additional triumph.

    Today Israel, in spite of being nine miles wide, without natural resources, and surrounded by barbaric failed states, is a modern democracy with a human capital based economy. It has managed against all odds to not only preserve but thrive, including absorbing the Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Muslim countries which now form the majority of its population. At any point Israel's neighbors and their useful idiot enablers in the West could have decided to live in peace with it, but have chosen the path of denial every time. I see the trend continues...

    The restoration of Jewish independence in a tiny fraction of the land that was forcibly conquered and colonized by Islamic interlopers

    Uh, the Muslims did not forcibly conquer a Jewish, independent Palestine. They conquered it from the Christian Byzantines. Furthermore, the population of Palestine at the time wasn’t all that Jewish—the diaspora had already happened and had not been reversed. Prior to 1948, the Jews had not ruled Palestine nor been a supermajority of its popuation for a long, long, long time.

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    It doesn't matter who they conquered it from. The Muslims still conquered it. They are not indigenous.

    In fact, when it comes to the land between the Med and the Jordan River, most of the Muslim tribes and lineages there are remarkably recent arrivals. When they think that Westerners aren't paying attention they actually really play this up, because it is considered high status to be from a family that was recently located in the Hijaz and other originating places.
    , @mcohen
    Bill

    Every single invader that came to Jerusalem knew it was the spiritual land of the Jews.even before Islam,before Christianity.they came they conquered and they left.one by one.the latest invader is Saudi Arabia.it too will leave.2017 will see the fall of the Saudi Arabia.destroyed by those they attempted to enslave.
  42. @Lot

    Stealing land is Israel’s core and DNA.
     
    You just say this. Both the Bible, genetic history, and the right of conquest that established the borders of nearly every country all say the West Bank is rightfully Israel's.

    The Golan Heights were taken after Syria twice invaded Israel.

    That’s not the position of international law, and it doesn’t answer the question what Israel is supposed to do with the Palestinians in the West bank. Permanently keeping them as a subjected non-citizen population looks pretty bad to the rest of the world and expelling them won’t be possible absent some major international crisis. Granting them citizenship and equal rights however will destroy Israel as a Jewish nation state.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Which is one of several reasons to support integrating the two peoples into one democratic state. Also, unlike the so-called 'two-state solution' integration is actually possible. Again, South Africa provides the template. I never said it was perfect...
  43. @Mao Cheng Ji
    US geopolitical strategists view it as an asset. Huge military base in the middle of a super-important region. An extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines.

    Consequently, all the 'human rights' stuff, outrage at some group's sufferings, etc. -- none of that is applicable here, as that only can be used for discrediting the US enemies. End of story. It will keep going the way it is until the price of doing it is too high (and then some, probably).

    Interesting. I recall opining 30+ years ago that maybe Israel should be looked on as America’s army in the Middle East and valuable as such when ME oil was still vitally important and the Cold War hadn’t ended. It is hard to see Israel as having the same value to the US now.

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    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji

    It is hard to see Israel as having the same value to the US now.
     
    It has no value to the US, the nation. Not now, and not during the cold war, which itself had no value to the US, the nation.

    It certainly does have value to the US, the global empire, with its main post-cold-war objective "to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival". The resource-rich middle east, plus Iran, plus Turkey, plus - maybe - Russia and/or China - that would be a very powerful global competitor. Like I said: a very important geopolitical region.
  44. @Anonymous
    There can be no doubt that the most dangerous countries on earth today are Israel and the US; and with AIPAC et al controlling the latter, they should be considered one & the same

    Dangerous to whom?

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  45. @Durruti
    Linh Dinh,

    A hard hitting and revealing essay. Congratulations on your courage.

    The successful passage of the United Nations Security Council Resolution is a glowing symbol that the Zionist Land Thieves and their Jewish backers in America, and throughout the world, have lost the blind support that they held from millions, thanks to the overwhelming brainwashing by means of the Jewish control of the Mainstream Media.

    The ugly truth of the Terrorist Zionist Land Thieves is being revealed (little by little).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3RypMScEMQ

    In the last days of 2016, the Palestinians have experienced their best moments, since their General Strike (for Independence), in 1936.

    Conversely, for the Zionist Land Thieves and their Jewish supporters, 2016 was the year their lies were best exposed. They have been condemned as the worst Terrorists since Hitler and the Nazi movement. It is the Zionists who are -Anti-Semites. The Zionists, and most Jews, hate Arabs. Arabs are Semites. Zionists and their Jewish supporters, who treat the Palestinian and other Arab peoples as the untermenschen, are the true Anti-Semites (most Jews are not Semites). My blond haired blue eyed German Jewish (mother's side) family certainly are not Semites; some reside in Tel Aviv, having tossed their morals and radical politics 65 years ago.

    My mother (who was an early organizer of the Teacher's Union and associate of Albert Shanker), insisted on us joining a Protestant Church, when I was 6 and my sister 5. Father was a Christian, and had no objections. Since then, my sister has joined the Mormons, and I, the Catholic Church. I follow the trajectory of Padraic Pearse and Pedro Albizu Campos, who joined the Catholic Church for spiritual and political reasons.

    As an Anarchist:

    I Respect All! And Bow to None!

    What courage? What an absurd cliché which I imagine the often observant Linh Dinh would disavow as embarrasing.

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    I do thank Durruti for his compliment. Let me put it this way, I used to teach at Bard College, which has an Israeli President, and once was even invited to talk to a class at Yeshiva University in Manhattan. Those kinds of opportunities are not exactly knocking down my door these days.

    For the record, Jews have been most instrumental in my life. In college, my three most supportive professors, Boris Putterman, Stephen Berg and Eileen Neff, were Jews, with Berg and Neff practically my surrogate parents, they nurtured me so much. Berg bought a painting of mine to put over his fireplace, and lent me money several times. My fiction publisher, Dan Simon, is Jewish, and Jewish Ron Unz has treated me better than any other webzine editor. Novelist Matthew Sharpe has talked me up in the fiction world. I can go on and on. Hell, my first date was with a Jewish girl, and I even lost my virginity to a Jew! I traveled through remote northwest Vietnam with photographer Mitch Epstein, and with 6-9 Lloyd Luntz, explored the Mekong Delta. Jews swarm me, fill my head, course through my veins. I can go on and on.
  46. Jizzraelis and Jizzlamists deserve each other. We just need to make sure they don’t impact us in any way.

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  47. Ashkenazi Jews has as much rights to ‘return’ to Palestine as the Filipinos (who are overwhelmingly Catholic) has the rights to the Vatican.

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    • Replies: @biz
    Any Jews have more right to live there than the Muslim tribes who conquered and colonized it relatively recently.

    In any case, it doesn't matter what you want. Israel is there, and it is thriving.
    , @Hibernian
    The proper analogy would be to people of Irish descent returning to a Republic of Ireland that wants to, but doesn't yet, control the entire island. We can, although I don't want to.
  48. Linh Dinh – I support those who would like you to stick to what you are very good at and know about instead of losing all persuasiveness for your rants by evident indifference to the facts. For example, calling Kerry Jewish is ridiculous as he is Catholic and his mother was not Jewish. Worse, Bashar al-Assad wasn’t in power till years after you have him meeting Clinton in 1994.

    Back to your knitting would be best.

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    Yes, it was Hafez al-Assad and not his son. Kerry is as Jewish as Obama is black, for his father was 100% Jewish. My confusion of Bashar with Hafez does not detract from my argument. Instead of nitpicking, do refute that.
  49. @Wizard of Oz
    What courage? What an absurd cliché which I imagine the often observant Linh Dinh would disavow as embarrasing.

    I do thank Durruti for his compliment. Let me put it this way, I used to teach at Bard College, which has an Israeli President, and once was even invited to talk to a class at Yeshiva University in Manhattan. Those kinds of opportunities are not exactly knocking down my door these days.

    For the record, Jews have been most instrumental in my life. In college, my three most supportive professors, Boris Putterman, Stephen Berg and Eileen Neff, were Jews, with Berg and Neff practically my surrogate parents, they nurtured me so much. Berg bought a painting of mine to put over his fireplace, and lent me money several times. My fiction publisher, Dan Simon, is Jewish, and Jewish Ron Unz has treated me better than any other webzine editor. Novelist Matthew Sharpe has talked me up in the fiction world. I can go on and on. Hell, my first date was with a Jewish girl, and I even lost my virginity to a Jew! I traveled through remote northwest Vietnam with photographer Mitch Epstein, and with 6-9 Lloyd Luntz, explored the Mekong Delta. Jews swarm me, fill my head, course through my veins. I can go on and on.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous

    For the record, Jews have been most instrumental in my life. In college, my three most supportive professors, Boris Putterman, Stephen Berg and Eileen Neff, were Jews, with Berg and Neff practically my surrogate parents, they nurtured me so much
     
    Jews are great as intellectual middlemen. As a result they make the best popularizers. Hell, even Einstein was a popularizer. As renowned Cambridge University mathematician E.T. Whittaker detailed:

    In 1951 (Vol. 1) and 1953 (Vol. 2), he published an extended and revised edition of his book in two volumes. The second volume contains some interesting historical remarks. For example, it contains a chapter named "The Relativity Theory of Poincaré and Lorentz", where Whittaker credited Henri Poincaré and Lorentz for developing special relativity,and especially alluded to Lorentz's 1904 paper (dated by Whittaker as 1903), Poincaré's St. Louis speech (The Principles of Mathematical Physics) of September 1904, and Poincaré's June 1905 paper.[9] He attributed to Einstein's special relativity paper only little importance, which he said "set forth the relativity theory of Poincare and Lorentz with some amplifications, and which attracted much attention”, and he credited Einstein only with being the first to publish the correct relativistic formulas for relativistic aberration and the Doppler effect. He also attributed the formula
    E=mc^{2} to Poincaré. In 1984 Clifford Truesdell wrote that Whittaker "aroused colossal antagonism by trying to set the record straight on the basis of print and record rather than recollection and folklore and professional propaganda,…
     
    But don't bring this up in polite company. Einstein denial is one degree of separation from Holocaust denial. And it's no use anyway, the narrative has already been solidly established.
    , @Hacienda
    Fascinating LD. You're becoming alt-left Steve Sailer of this site. Steve, too, has mentioned his deep incubation with Jews. Jews seem to occupy the social center of this planet. For the record, my first girlfriend was Jewish.
  50. @Wizard of Oz
    Interesting. I recall opining 30+ years ago that maybe Israel should be looked on as America's army in the Middle East and valuable as such when ME oil was still vitally important and the Cold War hadn't ended. It is hard to see Israel as having the same value to the US now.

    It is hard to see Israel as having the same value to the US now.

    It has no value to the US, the nation. Not now, and not during the cold war, which itself had no value to the US, the nation.

    It certainly does have value to the US, the global empire, with its main post-cold-war objective “to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival“. The resource-rich middle east, plus Iran, plus Turkey, plus – maybe – Russia and/or China – that would be a very powerful global competitor. Like I said: a very important geopolitical region.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    To say the cold war was of no value to the nation is a very curious way of expressing something and your "something" is unclear. Obviously wars tend to reduce value but that is hardly the point when for whatever reason you are in a major contest for control of the world (even if you would see it as just precautionary and therefore defensive but your opponent appears to have a messianic vision) and there is such a failure of trust or basic agreement on principles that you can't let your guard down.

    You seem to assume a continuation of American delusions and anachronistic beliefs. The combination of countries you posit is entirely implausible, the resources of the Middle East are only peripherally relevant to US prosperity and economic power (think fracking and renewables) and there is no prospect of China not emerging as a new rival (though much more rationally concentrated on its particular interests). Regardless of China or rivalry, Russia should have been enlisted as a friend with a warm and generous embrace from 1990, a point you may well agree with.

  51. @Bill

    The restoration of Jewish independence in a tiny fraction of the land that was forcibly conquered and colonized by Islamic interlopers
     
    Uh, the Muslims did not forcibly conquer a Jewish, independent Palestine. They conquered it from the Christian Byzantines. Furthermore, the population of Palestine at the time wasn't all that Jewish---the diaspora had already happened and had not been reversed. Prior to 1948, the Jews had not ruled Palestine nor been a supermajority of its popuation for a long, long, long time.

    It doesn’t matter who they conquered it from. The Muslims still conquered it. They are not indigenous.

    In fact, when it comes to the land between the Med and the Jordan River, most of the Muslim tribes and lineages there are remarkably recent arrivals. When they think that Westerners aren’t paying attention they actually really play this up, because it is considered high status to be from a family that was recently located in the Hijaz and other originating places.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous

    In fact, when it comes to the land between the Med and the Jordan River, most of the Muslim tribes and lineages there are remarkably recent arrivals.
     
    unlike the chosen offspring of Abraham whose origins are in Ur of the Chaldees.

    "At the end of every Hebrew sentence that you utter
    There sits an Arab Smoking his hookah,
    Even if it begun in Siberia
    Or in Hollywood
    With Hava Hagilah."

    Jews are history's longest-living losers; a losing streak longer than the the Chicago Cubs by a multiple of 20, more or less.

    In US politics, "Dems" = "Jews."
    And to observe how badly Dems are handling losing gives an insight into character traits of the core demographic of that political body. They lash out in anger; they leave destruction in their wake; they blame all others, and threaten all others with annihilation or extermination. Losing gracefully is not in their skill set, but it really needs to be, since winning fairly is also not their strong suit, not by a long shot.

    Our Irish mentors taught us to the "Humble in victory and gracious in defeat."
    It was a formula that more often produced winning outcomes.
    , @Druid
    Your history is either jaded or lacking. Muslims conquered it, true, but the locals converted, many even Jews.
    , @Eagle Eye

    In fact, when it comes to the land between the Med and the Jordan River, most of the Muslim tribes and lineages there are remarkably recent arrivals.
     
    Quite true of the *Muslim tribes* in Judea and Samaria. (Puffington Host readers have learned to call this area the "West Bank" and to virtue-signal about it vociferously, without, of course, being able to find it on a map.)

    Just as significantly, many current "Palestinians" are recent descendants of non-Arab and mostly non-Muslim settlers who migrated to the area during the Ottoman era: Greeks, Armenians, Turks, Circassians, Georgians, Persians, etc. as noted by other commenters above.

  52. Of cooours

    jews and zionists are fatal enemies, lol!!

    only white zombie to believe in other bulshitism.

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  53. @DB Cooper
    Ashkenazi Jews has as much rights to 'return' to Palestine as the Filipinos (who are overwhelmingly Catholic) has the rights to the Vatican.

    Any Jews have more right to live there than the Muslim tribes who conquered and colonized it relatively recently.

    In any case, it doesn’t matter what you want. Israel is there, and it is thriving.

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    • Replies: @greysquirrell
    Palestinians are descended from the native people of that area who were converted to Islam ; converts from Christianity ,Judaism and whatever else beliefs were there prior to Muslim conquests.

    The Arab Muslim invaders did not wipe out the natives and replace them, they mixed with them but by and large the Palestinians are descended from the pre-Islamic invaders ; same for Egypt , Syria, Lebanon, North Africa. Do you think people in Turkey are from what is now Mongolia, just because they speak a Turkic language.

    , @DB Cooper
    There is no such thing as Muslim tribes. The Palestinians are the indigenous people there. And about 10% of them are Christians.
  54. LOL. This is the age of infiltration, subversion. Locally and globally. As an Asian, I see it every day. In California, at UCLA, WM/AF couples, Samsung, ESL, Korean/Philippino marriages. The Muslim lower reaches do it. WASPs and Blacks are artists at this game, Asian women, too. The Jews are hated for being both good at it and making $$$. How about Asian men starting to learn this game beyond the business, trading, rhetorical level?

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    • Replies: @Hibernian
    A Korean who marries a Filipino is a race traitor? Which of those two ethnicities do you belong to?
  55. Jews swarm me, fill my head, course through my veins. I can go on and on. uh-huh.

    Better take a look at the people who gave you free speech, critical thinking, etc. It was not your jewish perfessers. I guess that your non-white pedigree was attractive to the white-killing jewish perfessers. Affirmative action for anybody but Whites.

    Joe Webb

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  56. @Wizard of Oz
    Linh Dinh - I support those who would like you to stick to what you are very good at and know about instead of losing all persuasiveness for your rants by evident indifference to the facts. For example, calling Kerry Jewish is ridiculous as he is Catholic and his mother was not Jewish. Worse, Bashar al-Assad wasn't in power till years after you have him meeting Clinton in 1994.

    Back to your knitting would be best.

    Yes, it was Hafez al-Assad and not his son. Kerry is as Jewish as Obama is black, for his father was 100% Jewish. My confusion of Bashar with Hafez does not detract from my argument. Instead of nitpicking, do refute that.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    There is too much good stuff in the comments, especially yours, for me to continue my criticism but I do note that your comparison of Kerry and Obama fails in an obvious way that I would have thought you would have noticed. Kerry in no way identifies as Jewish but Obama has made much of his black identity and sympathies.
  57. Dec 29, 2016 Rabbis Support UN Resolution in front of White House

    Rabbi Dovid Feldman of Neturei Karta International, Jews United Against Zionism, speaks at a press conference in support of recent United Nations resolution 2334 condemning Israeli settlements as illegal. The event took place in front of the White House in Washington DC, on December 29, 2016.

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    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    Gertrude Stein, Righteous Jew

    The Reverie of the Zionist

    -Gertrude Stein, 1920

    I know all about the war I have been in France ever since the peace.
    Remember what was said yesterday.
    We can think and we know that we love our country so.
    Can we believe that all Jews are these.
    Let us remember that the little bird of all is not the one that has the singing dell.
    It sings and it sings and a great many people say it is not pleasant.
    Is it likely that there is real grief.
    Anywhere there are beards and everywhere there are girls and all about there is a wealth of imagery.
    I saw all this to prove that Judaism should be a question of religion.
    Don’t talk about race. Race is disgusting if you don’t love your country.
    I don’t want to go to Zion.
    This is an expression of Shem.
  58. What is truth? Are there facts about Israel and Palestine all may agree on? Much discussion seems no more than speculation and conjecture.
    Forgotten former email so now am De Gaulle2

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    Truth: if peace were declared today and Palestine layed down all their arms, tomorrow they would enjoy their new peace. If Israel were to disarm today, tomorrow they would be massacred.
  59. @iffen

    a lefty professor told my class that Israel had only about twenty years left.
     
    No doubt this will coincide with the rise of Brazil as a super power.

    You didn’t harm the goat, did you?

    Actually, when I was in college everyone was predicting Japan was going to take over the world with its invincible economy.

    Even my economics professor said this.

    A bunch of my friends took Japanese lessons and spent a semester in Japan because they thought learning Japanese would be important in the future.

    These predictions about Japan didn’t exactly turn out correctly.

    People predict all sorts of nonsense, just like Linh Dinh is doing now.

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  60. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Oh please. You’re spending too much time around poets. Their worldview is quite atypical. Regular people, in America, in Europe, and I’d bet in East Asia too, they sympathize with the Israelis. They don’t care about the Palestinians MuhInigenousRights argument, no matter how valid the intellectuals think it is. They see Israel and then they see what the land of Israel would be without its Jews: another crappy Arab country full of honor killings and Koran-memorization institutes. Morally right or morally wrong, that’s how they think. Thus, until it becomes a European caliphate, no European politician will ever do anything to seriously isolate Israel, nothing like what was done to South Africa. The voters don’t want it, and, more importantly, Europe’s “Jewish communities” don’t want it. East Asia isn’t going to do anything, they wouldn’t hurt their own businesses just for “justice” for a bunch of camel herders. As for Latin America and Africa, who cares? They’re beggars, and you know what they say about beggars.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    dream on Anonymous.

    Ever pour salt on a slug?

    Ever tell a Jew you don't like him?

    Same reaction.

    People don't like Jews.
    Jews terrorize people to keep them from revealing their true beliefs.

    But the balloon has not been made that can withstand that pressure and expand forever. Eventually they gotta pop.

    KA -- BLAM!

    Bye bye the Jew pressure machine.

    It'll happen, that's for shoah.
    In USA.
    Not IF but When, and how bad.

    Keep your wife and your children close.

    , @Santoculto
    A lot of ''anonymous'' here are indeed, hasboara's
  61. @Bill

    The restoration of Jewish independence in a tiny fraction of the land that was forcibly conquered and colonized by Islamic interlopers
     
    Uh, the Muslims did not forcibly conquer a Jewish, independent Palestine. They conquered it from the Christian Byzantines. Furthermore, the population of Palestine at the time wasn't all that Jewish---the diaspora had already happened and had not been reversed. Prior to 1948, the Jews had not ruled Palestine nor been a supermajority of its popuation for a long, long, long time.

    Bill

    Every single invader that came to Jerusalem knew it was the spiritual land of the Jews.even before Islam,before Christianity.they came they conquered and they left.one by one.the latest invader is Saudi Arabia.it too will leave.2017 will see the fall of the Saudi Arabia.destroyed by those they attempted to enslave.

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    • Replies: @Bill
    Sure, but it certainly isn't the spiritual land of the Talmudists.
    , @Ace
    Whether some part of the earth's surface is anyone's "spiritual land" is of no importance. Who cares?

    Someone can have a deep and sincere longing for the mountains/rills/vales/fens/ditches/lakes/marshes/streets/beaches/cedars/kebab joints of someplace but that too is of no importance whatsoever. No one cares.

    If X gets kicked out of Y that's it for X's territorial claims until X saddles up and retakes it by hijrah, purchase, or war.

    Jews were kicked out of Israel 2000 years ago. They infiltrated, murdered and fought to take it over again and now they're masters of what they can hold militarily (with billions each year from the US, of course). Just like every other nation on earth. Jewish methods were everybody else's methods.

    That control amounts to sovereignty and it means they can do what they want with any and all land they control, including building a zillion settlements. What's with this "illegal settlements" nonsense?

    Israelis can also make non-Jews second-class citizens at their sole discretion, an alternative that's particularly sweet given the Muslim love of dhimmitude.

    The Arabs tried to take it all back at various times and drive the Jews into the sea. They failed. It's pathetic how they P&M about wanting to get back land they lost instead. Boo frigging hoo. Particularly because it's land that they took from non-Muslims by conquest.

    I don't see what's difficult about this.
  62. @Mao Cheng Ji

    many of them have Jews on their boards of directors
     
    What you write seems silly to me. People in the picture on top of this page look like individuals I would identify as 'Jews'. But those appear to be against supporting Israel. People sitting on boards of directors typically have no religion or ethnicity. They do business. Money is their religion. You think they're fanatics loyal to some far-away piece of land, but in fact they'd probably sell their own parents for more stock options. Don't make sense, sorry.

    People (Jews) sitting on boards of directors typically have no religion or ethnicity. They do business. Money is their religion.

    Sorry – but I must disagree. It is naive to think that Jews do not work together – that they do not act together as a tribal team in money matters, social maters, and political matters. It is naive to think that they do not use their positions in organizations to do Jew political business.

    Fellow Jews put pressure on them to do Jew political and social business — end of story.

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    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji

    Fellow Jews put pressure on them to do Jew political and social business — end of story.
     
    I'm sure you have a point there, but I feel that you're exaggerating it.

    First of all, you don't even know whether people you're talking about here are 'Jews' is the sense you're using the word here - part of the ethnic network. They might have Jewish-sounding names - and have little or no connection to the ethnic culture/network.

    You're operating with stereotypes, but stereotypes are unreliable and often obsolete, formed generations ago. An 'Italian-American' is not necessarily in the Mafia.

    Aside from that, people have all kinds of pressures. However, people in upper strata tend to have strong sociopathic tendencies (I believe), and to be motivated by what they see as their personal interests, rather any perceived group interest. This is how they get to the top - by doing what's good for them.

  63. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @biz
    It doesn't matter who they conquered it from. The Muslims still conquered it. They are not indigenous.

    In fact, when it comes to the land between the Med and the Jordan River, most of the Muslim tribes and lineages there are remarkably recent arrivals. When they think that Westerners aren't paying attention they actually really play this up, because it is considered high status to be from a family that was recently located in the Hijaz and other originating places.

    In fact, when it comes to the land between the Med and the Jordan River, most of the Muslim tribes and lineages there are remarkably recent arrivals.

    unlike the chosen offspring of Abraham whose origins are in Ur of the Chaldees.

    “At the end of every Hebrew sentence that you utter
    There sits an Arab Smoking his hookah,
    Even if it begun in Siberia
    Or in Hollywood
    With Hava Hagilah.”

    Jews are history’s longest-living losers; a losing streak longer than the the Chicago Cubs by a multiple of 20, more or less.

    In US politics, “Dems” = “Jews.”
    And to observe how badly Dems are handling losing gives an insight into character traits of the core demographic of that political body. They lash out in anger; they leave destruction in their wake; they blame all others, and threaten all others with annihilation or extermination. Losing gracefully is not in their skill set, but it really needs to be, since winning fairly is also not their strong suit, not by a long shot.

    Our Irish mentors taught us to the “Humble in victory and gracious in defeat.”
    It was a formula that more often produced winning outcomes.

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  64. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous
    Oh please. You're spending too much time around poets. Their worldview is quite atypical. Regular people, in America, in Europe, and I'd bet in East Asia too, they sympathize with the Israelis. They don't care about the Palestinians MuhInigenousRights argument, no matter how valid the intellectuals think it is. They see Israel and then they see what the land of Israel would be without its Jews: another crappy Arab country full of honor killings and Koran-memorization institutes. Morally right or morally wrong, that's how they think. Thus, until it becomes a European caliphate, no European politician will ever do anything to seriously isolate Israel, nothing like what was done to South Africa. The voters don't want it, and, more importantly, Europe's "Jewish communities" don't want it. East Asia isn't going to do anything, they wouldn't hurt their own businesses just for "justice" for a bunch of camel herders. As for Latin America and Africa, who cares? They're beggars, and you know what they say about beggars.

    dream on Anonymous.

    Ever pour salt on a slug?

    Ever tell a Jew you don’t like him?

    Same reaction.

    People don’t like Jews.
    Jews terrorize people to keep them from revealing their true beliefs.

    But the balloon has not been made that can withstand that pressure and expand forever. Eventually they gotta pop.

    KA — BLAM!

    Bye bye the Jew pressure machine.

    It’ll happen, that’s for shoah.
    In USA.
    Not IF but When, and how bad.

    Keep your wife and your children close.

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  65. @Robert Magill
    During the 1980's as house parents in a busy international youth hostel in Key West, Florida my family lived with hundreds of Israeli young men and women most of whom were Sabras (native born). What was most striking about the Israelis, compared to other groups we lived with, was the flat personal aspect and steely visage of these young men and women. Many carried, at a tender age, what has been described as the thousand-yard stare of veteran combatants. more https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2016/10/07/broken-warriors/

    I don’t want to say it, but it seems to be an example of the Bad Seed theory. Born that way. Iron Jawed mfr’s… Stiff Necked!

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  66. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Linh Dinh
    I do thank Durruti for his compliment. Let me put it this way, I used to teach at Bard College, which has an Israeli President, and once was even invited to talk to a class at Yeshiva University in Manhattan. Those kinds of opportunities are not exactly knocking down my door these days.

    For the record, Jews have been most instrumental in my life. In college, my three most supportive professors, Boris Putterman, Stephen Berg and Eileen Neff, were Jews, with Berg and Neff practically my surrogate parents, they nurtured me so much. Berg bought a painting of mine to put over his fireplace, and lent me money several times. My fiction publisher, Dan Simon, is Jewish, and Jewish Ron Unz has treated me better than any other webzine editor. Novelist Matthew Sharpe has talked me up in the fiction world. I can go on and on. Hell, my first date was with a Jewish girl, and I even lost my virginity to a Jew! I traveled through remote northwest Vietnam with photographer Mitch Epstein, and with 6-9 Lloyd Luntz, explored the Mekong Delta. Jews swarm me, fill my head, course through my veins. I can go on and on.

    For the record, Jews have been most instrumental in my life. In college, my three most supportive professors, Boris Putterman, Stephen Berg and Eileen Neff, were Jews, with Berg and Neff practically my surrogate parents, they nurtured me so much

    Jews are great as intellectual middlemen. As a result they make the best popularizers. Hell, even Einstein was a popularizer. As renowned Cambridge University mathematician E.T. Whittaker detailed:

    In 1951 (Vol. 1) and 1953 (Vol. 2), he published an extended and revised edition of his book in two volumes. The second volume contains some interesting historical remarks. For example, it contains a chapter named “The Relativity Theory of Poincaré and Lorentz”, where Whittaker credited Henri Poincaré and Lorentz for developing special relativity,and especially alluded to Lorentz’s 1904 paper (dated by Whittaker as 1903), Poincaré’s St. Louis speech (The Principles of Mathematical Physics) of September 1904, and Poincaré’s June 1905 paper.[9] He attributed to Einstein’s special relativity paper only little importance, which he said “set forth the relativity theory of Poincare and Lorentz with some amplifications, and which attracted much attention”, and he credited Einstein only with being the first to publish the correct relativistic formulas for relativistic aberration and the Doppler effect. He also attributed the formula
    E=mc^{2} to Poincaré. In 1984 Clifford Truesdell wrote that Whittaker “aroused colossal antagonism by trying to set the record straight on the basis of print and record rather than recollection and folklore and professional propaganda,…

    But don’t bring this up in polite company. Einstein denial is one degree of separation from Holocaust denial. And it’s no use anyway, the narrative has already been solidly established.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Very interesting. I was aware of Poincaré's possible priority but with fewer specifics. But I wonder if you are implying that Jews are popularisers rather than creators or original thinkers? The fact that Jews were still, in the late 19th/early 20th centuries emerging fully from the medieval to the Enlightenment (if only because so many were still illiterate) would explain why most new science was still non-Jewish. You aren't really trying to say that all those Jewish Nobel Prize winners are basically overrated and just a class above talented plagiarisers are you?

    To my mind one of the greatest of Nazi evils was the loss of brainpower they inflicted on the world by their killing of so many Jews. Would you disagree? And on the ground that they would basically have been just popularizers?

    , @Hibernian
    I've brought this up before at unz.com but I'll repeat it: It's no secret that Einstein, like Newton, "stood on the shoulders of giants" such as Fitzgerald and Lorentz, about whom I learned as a high school student in the early 1970s.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Anonymous, Wizard of Oz, and Hibernian:

    The relativity discussed by Whittaker was Special Relativity where Einstein's efforts were only contributory. This was not the case for the later General Relativity where Einstein's efforts were both singular and original.
  67. ”Ideological diversity” in campus [ more conservatives] = we need it

    why**

    to increase ”Israel-supporters” and theorics…

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  68. @Agent76
    Dec 29, 2016 Rabbis Support UN Resolution in front of White House

    Rabbi Dovid Feldman of Neturei Karta International, Jews United Against Zionism, speaks at a press conference in support of recent United Nations resolution 2334 condemning Israeli settlements as illegal. The event took place in front of the White House in Washington DC, on December 29, 2016.

    https://youtu.be/Z7_nEbHnVCw

    Gertrude Stein, Righteous Jew

    The Reverie of the Zionist

    -Gertrude Stein, 1920

    I know all about the war I have been in France ever since the peace.
    Remember what was said yesterday.
    We can think and we know that we love our country so.
    Can we believe that all Jews are these.
    Let us remember that the little bird of all is not the one that has the singing dell.
    It sings and it sings and a great many people say it is not pleasant.
    Is it likely that there is real grief.
    Anywhere there are beards and everywhere there are girls and all about there is a wealth of imagery.
    I saw all this to prove that Judaism should be a question of religion.
    Don’t talk about race. Race is disgusting if you don’t love your country.
    I don’t want to go to Zion.
    This is an expression of Shem.

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  69. @Durruti
    Linh Dinh,

    A hard hitting and revealing essay. Congratulations on your courage.

    The successful passage of the United Nations Security Council Resolution is a glowing symbol that the Zionist Land Thieves and their Jewish backers in America, and throughout the world, have lost the blind support that they held from millions, thanks to the overwhelming brainwashing by means of the Jewish control of the Mainstream Media.

    The ugly truth of the Terrorist Zionist Land Thieves is being revealed (little by little).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3RypMScEMQ

    In the last days of 2016, the Palestinians have experienced their best moments, since their General Strike (for Independence), in 1936.

    Conversely, for the Zionist Land Thieves and their Jewish supporters, 2016 was the year their lies were best exposed. They have been condemned as the worst Terrorists since Hitler and the Nazi movement. It is the Zionists who are -Anti-Semites. The Zionists, and most Jews, hate Arabs. Arabs are Semites. Zionists and their Jewish supporters, who treat the Palestinian and other Arab peoples as the untermenschen, are the true Anti-Semites (most Jews are not Semites). My blond haired blue eyed German Jewish (mother's side) family certainly are not Semites; some reside in Tel Aviv, having tossed their morals and radical politics 65 years ago.

    My mother (who was an early organizer of the Teacher's Union and associate of Albert Shanker), insisted on us joining a Protestant Church, when I was 6 and my sister 5. Father was a Christian, and had no objections. Since then, my sister has joined the Mormons, and I, the Catholic Church. I follow the trajectory of Padraic Pearse and Pedro Albizu Campos, who joined the Catholic Church for spiritual and political reasons.

    As an Anarchist:

    I Respect All! And Bow to None!

    “As an Anarchist:

    I Respect All! And Bow to None!”

    Right on brother! The notion of “State” and it’s built in violence has caused humanity far too much to continue believing in it. Israel is such a perfect example.

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    Respect All! And Bow to None!”

     

    I myself only respect the respectable, and any bowing I may be doing is laced with mucho loathing. Any bowing is generally fleeting while the loathing is permanent.

    Character defect, I guess.
  70. @Clyde
    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven. Or at least I will. Half of Israel's population comes from these Middle East derived Jews and other half from European Jews.
    Meanwhile Islam is conquering Europe via immigration, sucking up Euro-welfare system's money and converting this into explosive birthrates. For Europe's future demographics take a look at French and Swedish kindergarten classes. So who is smart and who are the chumps?
    What Lihn Dinh objects to is that the Israelis know how to keep the Muslim wolves at bay as the hapless Europeans cave in/submit/ and self destruct.


    The Expulsion of the Jews from Muslim Countries, 1920-1970: A History of Ongoing Cruelty and Discrimination
    Prof. Shmuel Trigano, November 4, 2010

    Between 1920 and 1970, 900,000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries. The 1940s were a turning point in this tragedy; of those expelled, 600,000 settled in the new state of Israel, and 300,000 in France and the United States. Today, they and their descendents form the majority of the French Jewish community and a large part of Israel’s population.
    In the countries that expelled Jews, a combination of six legal, economic, and political measures aimed at isolating Jews in society was instituted: denationalization; legal discrimination; isolation and sequestration; economic despoilment; socioeconomic discrimination; and pogroms or similar acts.
    It is the custom to say that Zionism was responsible for this development. However, the region’s anti-Semitism would have developed even without the rise of the state of Israel because of Arab-Islamic nationalism, which resulted in xenophobia.
    http://jcpa.org/article/the-expulsion-of-the-jews-from-muslim-countries-1920-1970-a-history-of-ongoing-cruelty-and-discrimination/
     

    “For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven. Or at least I will. Half of Israel’s population comes from these Middle East derived Jews and other half from European Jews.”

    Why should the Palestinians need to pay for others in the MidEast evicting Jews ; that’s the same as saying the Palestinians need to pay for what Germans did to Jews.

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    • Replies: @biz
    There is no such thing as a "Palestinian." They are Muslim Arabs. For purely propaganda purposes some people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, precisely to confuse Westerners into thinking that there is not an Arab-Jewish conflict but rather a Palestinian-Jewish one. I see that this sleight of hand worked on you.

    There is only an Arab-Jewish conflict and as Arabs they are responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Jews. Furthermore, in regard to what Nazis did, their biggest collaborators were in the Arab world, led by the Mufti Al-Husseni. So actually, Arabs are far from blameless for the Nazi holocaust.
  71. @biz
    Any Jews have more right to live there than the Muslim tribes who conquered and colonized it relatively recently.

    In any case, it doesn't matter what you want. Israel is there, and it is thriving.

    Palestinians are descended from the native people of that area who were converted to Islam ; converts from Christianity ,Judaism and whatever else beliefs were there prior to Muslim conquests.

    The Arab Muslim invaders did not wipe out the natives and replace them, they mixed with them but by and large the Palestinians are descended from the pre-Islamic invaders ; same for Egypt , Syria, Lebanon, North Africa. Do you think people in Turkey are from what is now Mongolia, just because they speak a Turkic language.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    {Do you think people in Turkey are from what is now Mongolia, just because they speak a Turkic language.}

    Yes, Turks - different from Kurds - in Asia Minor are descendants of UygurTürkoğlar nomad invaders from East and Central Asia.

    In fact Muslim Turk nomad invaders did wipe out the natives - indigenous peoples of Asia Minor (Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks (latecomers), others) - and replace them.

    You must have been living in a cave all these years not to have heard about the Armenian Genocide (and Assyrian Genocide, and Pontic Greek Genocide) by invadonomad Muslim Turks.

    There are certainly genes of indigenous peoples mixed in, in what are called Turks today: no surprise after several centuries of nomad Turks abducting indigenous Christian women and children and forcibly mixing their nomad genes with cultured peoples'.

    But at the core, Turks are the same savage nomad Turks that invaded Asia Minor around 1,000 A.D.
    They were nomad savages 1,000 years ago and still are.

  72. @Lorax
    A person who is born to a Jewish mother is Jewish. It's that simple.
    John Kerry was born to Rosemary Forbes, and his mother was Episcopalian.
    He is not a born (or converted) Jew. Has some Ashkenazi DNA though.
    As do Michael Douglass, Robert Downey Jr. and Sean Penn whose mothers
    were all Christian European. Ditto for Paul Newman. All well born IMO.

    “A person who is born to a Jewish mother is Jewish. It’s that simple.”

    It’s that simple for the tribal Jews.
    For everyone else it is nonsense.
    Half a person’s DNA comes from each parent.
    Legally, the nationality (if that is your pleasure) is generally determined by the father’s nationality.
    If the grandfather was a Czech Jew, then Kerry is 1/4 Jew.
    He should be proud of his heritage. (Of course, acknowledging Jewish forebears might have affected Kerry’s eligibility for Scull and Bones at Yale.)

    I always found it pretty hard to believe that neither Albright nor Kerry “knew” that they descended from Jews. Come on. Don’t these highly intelligent, well-educated people have a smidgin of curiosity? None of this would really matter nowadays if (1) the State of Israel had never been founded and (2) so many American secular Jews had not therefore been transformed into Zionists and Israel supporters and, actually, hysterics (“It could still happen here!!! They have a right to shoot those boys throwing rocks!!”) by the existence and demands of the State of Israel.

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    • Replies: @saez
    When Madeleine Albright discovered she was Jewish, some years into her appointment as secretary of state, a friend who lives in Washington mentioned that he had known her uncle for several decades and the uncle had known all along that he was Jewish.
  73. @Lot

    Stealing land is Israel’s core and DNA.
     
    You just say this. Both the Bible, genetic history, and the right of conquest that established the borders of nearly every country all say the West Bank is rightfully Israel's.

    The Golan Heights were taken after Syria twice invaded Israel.

    “genetic history,”

    This is a biggie. I have long thought that all Israeli Jews should have DNA profiles done and compare them to archaeological remains.
    That would quickly separate the sheep from the goats.
    But I am unaware of any program to systematically carry out DNA tests on the Jewish colonizers and settlers.
    In particular I would love to see the tests of the Jewish cowboys who have transferred from substandard digs in Brooklyn to a nice house in the the settlements, all on the Israeli (read American) taxpayer’s shekel.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    It's pretty well known that many, many of the Russian "jews" who immigrated to Israel and America are not Jews at all.

    Many of the Russian not Jews only live in Israel a few months of the year. The rest of the time they are home in Russia.
  74. @greysquirrell
    Palestinians are descended from the native people of that area who were converted to Islam ; converts from Christianity ,Judaism and whatever else beliefs were there prior to Muslim conquests.

    The Arab Muslim invaders did not wipe out the natives and replace them, they mixed with them but by and large the Palestinians are descended from the pre-Islamic invaders ; same for Egypt , Syria, Lebanon, North Africa. Do you think people in Turkey are from what is now Mongolia, just because they speak a Turkic language.

    {Do you think people in Turkey are from what is now Mongolia, just because they speak a Turkic language.}

    Yes, Turks – different from Kurds – in Asia Minor are descendants of UygurTürkoğlar nomad invaders from East and Central Asia.

    In fact Muslim Turk nomad invaders did wipe out the natives – indigenous peoples of Asia Minor (Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks (latecomers), others) – and replace them.

    You must have been living in a cave all these years not to have heard about the Armenian Genocide (and Assyrian Genocide, and Pontic Greek Genocide) by invadonomad Muslim Turks.

    There are certainly genes of indigenous peoples mixed in, in what are called Turks today: no surprise after several centuries of nomad Turks abducting indigenous Christian women and children and forcibly mixing their nomad genes with cultured peoples’.

    But at the core, Turks are the same savage nomad Turks that invaded Asia Minor around 1,000 A.D.
    They were nomad savages 1,000 years ago and still are.

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    LOL.

    This squirrel "must have been living in a cave all these years" not to anticipate a smackdown coming from Avery!
    , @greysquirrell
    What has the Armenian genocide got to do with DNA ancestry of Anatolian Turks?

    You are wrong ; the bulk of the genetic ancestry of modern day Anatolian Turks is a carry-over from pre-Turkic inhabitants. Population genetic studies pegged East Asian Y-Dna at around 8%.

    Just look at the phenotype of Turkic speaking people like the Uighurs, Kazakh , Krygz and Turkmen and compare them to Anatolian Turks. Vast majority of Turks do not have that East Asian epicanthic eyefold.
  75. @Anonymous
    Oh please. You're spending too much time around poets. Their worldview is quite atypical. Regular people, in America, in Europe, and I'd bet in East Asia too, they sympathize with the Israelis. They don't care about the Palestinians MuhInigenousRights argument, no matter how valid the intellectuals think it is. They see Israel and then they see what the land of Israel would be without its Jews: another crappy Arab country full of honor killings and Koran-memorization institutes. Morally right or morally wrong, that's how they think. Thus, until it becomes a European caliphate, no European politician will ever do anything to seriously isolate Israel, nothing like what was done to South Africa. The voters don't want it, and, more importantly, Europe's "Jewish communities" don't want it. East Asia isn't going to do anything, they wouldn't hurt their own businesses just for "justice" for a bunch of camel herders. As for Latin America and Africa, who cares? They're beggars, and you know what they say about beggars.

    A lot of ”anonymous” here are indeed, hasboara’s

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  76. [so the end of Israel is within sight]

    A defect of the lens caused by a flaw in the spherical curvature, resulting in distorted images, as light rays are prevented from converging on a common focus.

    Not your camera, nor the postcards; those instruments tend to fabricate the occasionally enjoyable but reliably despondent stories for depression seekers.

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  77. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Wally
    Hasbarist hilarity.

    The Bible says so? LOL

    Actually Syria defended itself from that "shitty little county".

    and:
    Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine
    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/

    And why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?

    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    Must reads:
    Holocaust Handbooks & Documentaries
    http://holocausthandbooks.com
    and:
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Jesus, you’re stupid. That Times of Israel piece you linked to is satire. So either you didn’t actually read it or you didn’t understand it. So which is it? Are you irresponsible or just retarded?

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    • Replies: @Santos
    No it is not satire, you must be a dishonest person, most probably a Khazar.
  78. @greysquirrell
    "For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven. Or at least I will. Half of Israel’s population comes from these Middle East derived Jews and other half from European Jews."

    Why should the Palestinians need to pay for others in the MidEast evicting Jews ; that's the same as saying the Palestinians need to pay for what Germans did to Jews.

    There is no such thing as a “Palestinian.” They are Muslim Arabs. For purely propaganda purposes some people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, precisely to confuse Westerners into thinking that there is not an Arab-Jewish conflict but rather a Palestinian-Jewish one. I see that this sleight of hand worked on you.

    There is only an Arab-Jewish conflict and as Arabs they are responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Jews. Furthermore, in regard to what Nazis did, their biggest collaborators were in the Arab world, led by the Mufti Al-Husseni. So actually, Arabs are far from blameless for the Nazi holocaust.

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    • Replies: @Durruti
    Yipes!

    biz (Netenyahooo) wrote:

    Propaganda:

    1. "There is no such thing as a “Palestinian.”

    2. "They are Muslim Arabs."

    3. " people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, "

    The Truth:

    1. Hmmm! Essentially, an American is someone who was born and raised somewhere in America; and a Palestinian is someone who was born and raised in Palestine.

    2. Half of all Palestinians are Christians.

    3. There was the Palestinian General Strike and insurrection (for national independence) in 1936. Link enclosed below. There are books and dozens of internet links for one to learn about Palestinians.

    https://worldhistoryproject.org/1936/arab-revolt-in-palestine

    The Palestinian General Strike and the Insurrection that followed, were brutally repressed by the British Colonial Government. Many thousands of Palestinian rebels were killed - in heavy fighting.

    Note the date of the strike-1936, precedes the Netenyahooo-biz' offered date of 1970. Hell; it precedes World War II.

    Pay attention Now!!!

    The Palestinian National struggle preceeded the Holocaust, exaggerated Holocaust, or so-called Holocaust (you choose your favorite). In 1936, Zionist Terrorists sided with Colonial England against the legitimate national aspirations of the Palestinians. Later, the Zionists would oppose the national aspirations of the South African People, and later, Vietnam, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, all of Europe, and in recent decades they have suborned the very national existence
    of the American people.

    Palestine survives by a fingernail. America survives slightly better.

    We must Restore Our Republic!
    , @Art

    For purely propaganda purposes some people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, precisely to confuse Westerners into thinking that there is not an Arab-Jewish conflict but rather a Palestinian-Jewish one.
     
    (Oh my -- Hasbara Central has the basement Zombies working tonight.)

    How are you Biz --- please please give us a new lie - this is BORING!

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. The Palestinians have had many rulers - only the Jews have stolen their personal property.

    , @greysquirrell
    Your argument is straight propaganda. Palestinian is just the name given to the natives of the area who were not Jewish or Druze or members of the tiny minorities like Greek and Armenian orthodox. Saying there is no such thing as a Palestinian is like saying there is no such thing as a Native American since Native-American is a term created by Whites.

    The Arabs or Palestinians had no hand in the Holocaust; just because the Mufti was on good terms with the Nazis does not mean Palestinians actually assisted in the Holocaust. Some Zionists had a relationship with the Nazis ; some examples mentioned in below article.
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/03/04/denying-nazi-zionist-collusion/
    , @Skeptikal
    "There is no such thing as a “Palestinian.” "

    How exceedingly odd!
    A woman, German Jew, resident in Palestine from 1933, who traveled in 1936 from Palestine to Britain to study, was described as "Palestinian" on her official documents.

    So someone in both Palestine and Britain thought that there was such a thing as Palestine.
    In fact, someone thought that there was such a thing as Palestine qua political entity, not race or ethnicity.
    All the people living in Palestine, also Jews, were Palestinians.
    That includes local Jews and the recent migrants from Europe.
    But the European Jews wanted the whole place for themselves and launched a war of ethnic cleansing to get it. Where previously they had just bought up the place piece by piece, using to a great extent Rothschild funds. But that was taking too long, and elicited the great ire of the original locals, who couldn't compete moneywise with the rich newcomers.

    REally, the guests from hell!!
    , @jacques sheete

    There is no such thing as a “Palestinian.”
     
    Why? Did the usual suspects wipe 'em all out when I wasn't looking?

    What are we supposed to call the people of Palestine?

    If there was no Palestine for the Zionists to invade, then why did Ze'ev refer to the land as such? Why did Ze'ev Baby refer to "Palestinians?" Sumpin wrong wit da guy er what???

    We cannot give any compensation for Palestine, neither to the Palestinians nor to other Arabs. Therefore, a voluntary agreement is inconceivable. All colonization, even the most restricted, must continue in defiance of the will of the native population. Therefore, it can continue and develop only under the shield of force which comprises an Iron Wall which the local population can never break through. This is our Arab policy. To formulate it any other way would be hypocrisy.

    - Ze'ev Jabotinsky,The Iron Wall (1923).

     

  79. @Carlton Meyer
    Most of Syria is part of the "Promised Land" described in the Bible. So it belongs to the Jews! Israel openly annexed Syria's Golan Heights many years ago and the world did nothing except refuse to recognize this. Does this explain Obama's senseless support for the overthrow of popular and moderate President Assad by arming foreign Jihadists? Note that Israel conducts airstrikes in Syria on a weekly basis, and even missile attacks. http://defense-update.com/20161208_israels-precision-rockets.html

    When "radical" ISIS reached Israel's border two years ago, these hard core Islamist didn't attempt to cross. They never fired mortars, rockets, or bullets across the fence. Israel even provided medical aid to wounded ISIS Jihadists.

    If Assad goes, so goes Syria. It would be a chaotic mess and Israel would be justified to invade to establish a huge "security zone", now cleared of Syrians killed or refugeed. Jewish settlements would appear in these occupied territories, as they did in the Golan. None of this is disclosed or discussed in the American media. But it does explain why nearly all American political leaders chant "Assad Must Go!" yet refuse to explain why.

    Your link states, ” If the Syrian claim is correct, this incident is the first time that Israel’s Defense Forces (IDF) have used precision guided surface-launched missiles, a new type of weapon procured this year..” But is the Syrian claim correct? If it is an Israeli missile, how are you sure the IDF is firing it? All reports I’ve seen indicate that Israel does not intervene in the Syria war except when military goods are headed to Hezbollah.

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  80. @Clyde
    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven. Or at least I will. Half of Israel's population comes from these Middle East derived Jews and other half from European Jews.
    Meanwhile Islam is conquering Europe via immigration, sucking up Euro-welfare system's money and converting this into explosive birthrates. For Europe's future demographics take a look at French and Swedish kindergarten classes. So who is smart and who are the chumps?
    What Lihn Dinh objects to is that the Israelis know how to keep the Muslim wolves at bay as the hapless Europeans cave in/submit/ and self destruct.


    The Expulsion of the Jews from Muslim Countries, 1920-1970: A History of Ongoing Cruelty and Discrimination
    Prof. Shmuel Trigano, November 4, 2010

    Between 1920 and 1970, 900,000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries. The 1940s were a turning point in this tragedy; of those expelled, 600,000 settled in the new state of Israel, and 300,000 in France and the United States. Today, they and their descendents form the majority of the French Jewish community and a large part of Israel’s population.
    In the countries that expelled Jews, a combination of six legal, economic, and political measures aimed at isolating Jews in society was instituted: denationalization; legal discrimination; isolation and sequestration; economic despoilment; socioeconomic discrimination; and pogroms or similar acts.
    It is the custom to say that Zionism was responsible for this development. However, the region’s anti-Semitism would have developed even without the rise of the state of Israel because of Arab-Islamic nationalism, which resulted in xenophobia.
    http://jcpa.org/article/the-expulsion-of-the-jews-from-muslim-countries-1920-1970-a-history-of-ongoing-cruelty-and-discrimination/
     

    Could you also elucidate the source of the birthright of the former Soviet Jews on the Palestinian orchards and century-old Palestinian cemeteries ? What about the “good-German” behavior towards Palestinian civilians by the “most moral” IDF? The use of torture (even on the the underage) and the collective punishment against the NATIVE Palestinians by the newcomers?
    There is nothing new about Israelis’ behavior: the “most moral” imitates both the Kievan pogroms and Nazi’ tactics against “unworthy” and “unchosen.”
    When getting power in Russia one hundred years ago, in 1917, the commanding Jews were totally merciless towards Russian nobility and Russian clergy; by trying to exterminate the intellectuals, the Bolshevic power aimed at exterminating the important carriers of the native cultural traditions.
    In the US, the ziocons have been “arranging” the channeling of the country resources towards their dearest project of Eretz Israel, while spreading lies (see Ledeen and Iraq WMD) and removing the competent and principled America-firsters from the position of influence (see the story of the idiotic Douglas Feith and the superbly qualified Colonel Patrick Lang). The criminal policies in the Middle East – the policies that follow miraculously the Yinon Plan for Eretz Israel – have resulted in the ruined states of Iraq, Libya, and Syria and in the huge waves of desperate people (including the whole families with small children) running from the death and destruction. When you write, “Meanwhile Islam is conquering Europe via immigration,” you remind the readers that the “conquering of Europe by Islam” is the direct consequence of the wars against the formerly-functioning neighbors of Israel. Moreover, Europe would not suffer from the ongoing waves of low-IQ sub-Saharan migrants if Qaddaffi were still in power in Libya. But the members of PNAC had a plan for the Middle East.
    It is an open secret that the state of Israel does not want to have the prosperous and stable states among its neighbors. For instance, listen carefully to some prominent Israeli generals that articulate their preference for ISIS to sovereign Syria.

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    • Replies: @Clyde
    You are another member of the Yinon cult. As if something this obscure nobody Yinon said 30 years ago has guided Israeli policy. Your Rosetta stone for understanding Israel......hilarious!

    Cutting through your windbag post..... The equation is very simple, roughly 800,000 Arabs were displaced when Israel was born. After they attacked the Jews and lost that war. Many of them fled planning on returning after the Arab armies massacred the Jews. But the Jews won and Israel was created. Prior to this these Jews were called Palestinians and today's Jerusalem Post newspaper was called the Palestine Post.
    Before and after Israel's creation Jews were being forced to live oppressive dhimmi lives in the Arab Muslim nations. Iraq had 300,000 Jews. As revenge for the creation of Israel the Arab Muslim nations made life lots worse for Jews. 800,000 Jews were were forced out with most taken in by Israel. Most left without any money or compensation for anything they owned.

    This looks like a population exchange to me. There were other ones after WW2 such as Germans being kicked out of Russian lands they had farmed and lived in for generations.

  81. @Art
    People (Jews) sitting on boards of directors typically have no religion or ethnicity. They do business. Money is their religion.

    Sorry – but I must disagree. It is naive to think that Jews do not work together – that they do not act together as a tribal team in money matters, social maters, and political matters. It is naive to think that they do not use their positions in organizations to do Jew political business.

    Fellow Jews put pressure on them to do Jew political and social business --- end of story.

    Fellow Jews put pressure on them to do Jew political and social business — end of story.

    I’m sure you have a point there, but I feel that you’re exaggerating it.

    First of all, you don’t even know whether people you’re talking about here are ‘Jews’ is the sense you’re using the word here – part of the ethnic network. They might have Jewish-sounding names – and have little or no connection to the ethnic culture/network.

    You’re operating with stereotypes, but stereotypes are unreliable and often obsolete, formed generations ago. An ‘Italian-American’ is not necessarily in the Mafia.

    Aside from that, people have all kinds of pressures. However, people in upper strata tend to have strong sociopathic tendencies (I believe), and to be motivated by what they see as their personal interests, rather any perceived group interest. This is how they get to the top – by doing what’s good for them.

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    • Replies: @Art

    However, people in upper strata tend to have strong sociopathic tendencies (I believe), and to be motivated by what they see as their personal interests, rather any perceived group interest
     
    .

    Not to be labor the point – but whatever clannishness or tribalness is – nature or nurture - the Jews have it in spades.

    Peace --- Art
  82. “There is a feeling of hopelessness among the Muslim countries and their people. They feel that they can do nothing right. They believe that things can only get worse. The Muslims will forever be oppressed and dominated by the Europeans and the Jews. They will forever be poor, backward and weak.”

    The cure for this is the continued existence, and active presence of Israel in the Middle East. The refined and evolved Jew is a mighty source of inspiration and progress for all humanity. Sure, there are such individuals in all ethnicities, awkward way of saying the obvious in PC terms. The refined Jew is the salt of the earth, so empower him whenever and wherever you can. Bless Ron Unz.

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  83. @Linh Dinh
    Boston Globe, 6/15/03:

    For the past 15 years or so, Kerry says, he knew his paternal grandmother was probably Jewish, and he also knew the Kerrys came from the former Austrian empire. But he said he did not know, until informed by the Globe earlier this year, that his grandfather was a Czech Jew named Fritz Kohn who changed his name to Frederick Kerry to escape a violent strain of anti-Semitism. According to a story passed down to at least one family member, Kohn and his siblings randomly dropped a pencil on a map of Europe, spotted Ireland's County Kerry, and adopted the name. Kohn and his wife, Ida Lowe, who was born Jewish in Budapest, changed their name to Kerry, were baptized as Catholics in 1902, and immigrated to the United States in 1905.
     
    Haaretz, 12/21/12:

    When Kerry was Kohn: The Jewish roots of John Kerry
    Dina Kraft

    BOSTON – Senator John Kerry, with his mother’s New England patrician pedigree and his Irish last name actually has a grandfather who was born a Jew in the former Austro-Hungarian Empire.

    The news was a revelation to Kerry himself, who only found out about his Jewish roots while running in the 2004 presidential election.

    His paternal grandfather Frederick A. Kerry, was born Fritz Kohn in a town in what today is the Czech Republic before changing his name ahead of his immigration to the United States a century ago.

    Kerry is a long-time U.S. Senator representing Massachusetts, who was nominated Friday by President Barack Obama as his next secretary of state.

    Kerry, if confirmed in the position, will not be the first U.S. Secretary of State to have discovered a Jewish family past later in life.

    In 1997 Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, who was born in Prague, learned three of her four grandparents were Jewish.

    In more immediate Jewish family ties, Kerry’s brother Cameron converted to Judaism after marrying Kathy Weinman, a Jewish woman and fellow lawyer he met on the job at a Washington law firm.

    In 1994 as his brother campaigned for president, Cameron Kerry, known as Cam, traveled to Israel for the first time on what was termed a “private visit” that was arranged by a branch of AIPAC. Accompanying him on that trip was Kerry’s top advisor on Mideast and Jewish affairs.

    During the visit he recalled finding out about his family’s Jewish roots and calling up his in-laws to tell them the news.

    “I called up Kathy's parents and said 'I'm Jewish,' and they said, 'Yeah we know' and I said, 'No, I'm really Jewish,'" he said in an interview with JTA at the time.
     

    Thanks for educating me, and I apologize for my last remark especially. I had looked up ‘John Kerry Jewish’ upon reading your piece but couldn’t find anything. As the other commenter said, it may be a stretch to call him Jewish outright, but at least his facial physiognomy makes more sense now ;)

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    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
    Hi Kyle,

    I'm going to change my name to Fergus O'Breasail and run for Boston City Council!

    It is curious that Fritz Kohn [Cohen, Kahan, Cohn] decided on an Irish surname, since the Irish were very low on the totem pole in 1905 America, when the newly minted Fred Kerry arrived in Chicago.


    Linh

  84. @Carlton Meyer
    Most of Syria is part of the "Promised Land" described in the Bible. So it belongs to the Jews! Israel openly annexed Syria's Golan Heights many years ago and the world did nothing except refuse to recognize this. Does this explain Obama's senseless support for the overthrow of popular and moderate President Assad by arming foreign Jihadists? Note that Israel conducts airstrikes in Syria on a weekly basis, and even missile attacks. http://defense-update.com/20161208_israels-precision-rockets.html

    When "radical" ISIS reached Israel's border two years ago, these hard core Islamist didn't attempt to cross. They never fired mortars, rockets, or bullets across the fence. Israel even provided medical aid to wounded ISIS Jihadists.

    If Assad goes, so goes Syria. It would be a chaotic mess and Israel would be justified to invade to establish a huge "security zone", now cleared of Syrians killed or refugeed. Jewish settlements would appear in these occupied territories, as they did in the Golan. None of this is disclosed or discussed in the American media. But it does explain why nearly all American political leaders chant "Assad Must Go!" yet refuse to explain why.

    “If Assad goes, so goes Syria. It would be a chaotic mess and Israel would be justified to invade to establish a huge “security zone”, now cleared of Syrians killed or refugeed. Jewish settlements would appear in these occupied territories, as they did in the Golan. None of this is disclosed or discussed in the American media. But it does explain why nearly all American political leaders chant “Assad Must Go!” yet refuse to explain why.”

    I had never heard of Greater Israel until I read a Wolf Blitzer article in the Jerusalem Post covering the push for an Israel from the Mediterranean to Mesopotamia. Apparently Zionists believe that most of the Middle East belongs to them, not just Israel, the West Bank, Occupied Territories and small parts of neighboring countries. I have no idea if the Israeli edition of the paper is different than the American edition, but I don’t believe that Blitzer would ever speak of Greater Israel to a non-Jewish, American audience. That’s a real problem.

    I really don’t care that much about the ME, and believe that many of our current problems are due to Jewish power in America, not Israeli influence. Put a hard check on Jewish power in the U.S., and Israel wouldn’t be the issue it is, and the ME would be much more stable. America would also be freer, less corrupt and likely more prosperous. At the very least, Americans would be better informed.

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    I have no idea if the Israeli edition of the paper is different than the American edition
     
    Usually the English-language versions are similar if not identical. It's the Hebrew editions which are different. The redoubtable Israel Shahak made a cottage industry back in the day of comparing & contrasting English- and Hebrew-language versions of Israeli media. It was fun, and scary.
  85. @German_reader
    That's not the position of international law, and it doesn't answer the question what Israel is supposed to do with the Palestinians in the West bank. Permanently keeping them as a subjected non-citizen population looks pretty bad to the rest of the world and expelling them won't be possible absent some major international crisis. Granting them citizenship and equal rights however will destroy Israel as a Jewish nation state.

    Which is one of several reasons to support integrating the two peoples into one democratic state. Also, unlike the so-called ‘two-state solution’ integration is actually possible. Again, South Africa provides the template. I never said it was perfect…

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    The Israelis will never agree to accept Palestinians as citizens with equal rights (which would obviously be madness), and they've got nukes...who's willing to risk the Samson option for the sake of the Palestinians? I don't think the comparison with South Africa is that meaningful, whites there were a much lower percentage of the population.
  86. @Anonymous
    The Washington Post (1/1/17):

    Venezuelan Jews are moving to Israel to escape deepening poverty https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/venezuelan-jews-are-moving-to-israel-to-escape-deepening-poverty/2017/01/01/437d015b-8676-49ed-89d3-1edc0a57418e_story.html?utm_term=.474f561e792a

    ...Last year, the U.S.-based Anti-Defamation League condemned a magazine for using anti-Semitic imagery on its cover that suggested the country’s economic problems were brought on by wealthy people of “Israelite origin.”

    “For several years we have seen anti-Semitic accusations and themes appear in Venezuelan public discourse,” said Jonathan A. Greenblatt, chief executive of the ADL, responding to the magazine’s cover in August. “This shockingly graphic manifestation of anti-Semitic imagery on full display on Venezuelan newsstands is unacceptable and repulsive.”...
     

    Will this miracle work for the USA too?

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  87. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Randal
    Still seems a little thin to justify the flat assertion "a Jew, Kerry" in your original piece.

    Is it useful to apply some sort of "one drop" rule to identify jewish people, and for what purpose would this be appropriate? In the case of a public figure like Kerry, the only really useful reason to identify their racial/ethnic/religious/national affiliations would seem to be to identify potential conflicts of loyalty and interest, and there seems no good reason to anticipate such in the case of Kerry, who appears to have been raised Catholic without strong, direct links to his distant jewish relatives.

    Even the specific purpose in your piece, to claim Obama might have enjoyed the situation, doesn't seem justified by it.


    During the visit he recalled finding out about his family’s Jewish roots and calling up his in-laws to tell them the news.

    “I called up Kathy’s parents and said ‘I’m Jewish,’ and they said, ‘Yeah we know’ and I said, ‘No, I’m really Jewish,’” he said in an interview with JTA at the time.
     

    These kinds of people would seem likely to be the archetypal "fair weather" jews, who will insist they are jewish now, in US and Israeli circles where it's fashionable or advantageous to do so, but suddenly forget it once the pendulum swings back.

    Quit being so melodramatic and politically correct.

    You act like Jews themselves don’t throughly investigate a person’s background for jewish heritage to see if they will be good to the tribe.

    Isreal itself is a racial state. They absolutely consider how jewish you are for citizenship and what positions you will hold in society.

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    • Replies: @Randal

    Quit being so melodramatic and politically correct.
     
    Grow up.

    You act like Jews themselves don’t throughly investigate a person’s background for jewish heritage to see if they will be good to the tribe.

    Isreal itself is a racial state. They absolutely consider how jewish you are for citizenship and what positions you will hold in society.
     
    What has this to do with what I wrote?

    Are you trying to suggest that Kerry would be considered "jewish enough" for Israeli citizenship and therefore that justifies Linh Dinh's suggestion that Obama would have take extra satisfaction in having "a jew" deliver his message? If so, then you would have been better concentrating on explaining yourself better rather than slinging childish, inaccurate and over-defensive accusations.
  88. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Clyde
    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven. Or at least I will. Half of Israel's population comes from these Middle East derived Jews and other half from European Jews.
    Meanwhile Islam is conquering Europe via immigration, sucking up Euro-welfare system's money and converting this into explosive birthrates. For Europe's future demographics take a look at French and Swedish kindergarten classes. So who is smart and who are the chumps?
    What Lihn Dinh objects to is that the Israelis know how to keep the Muslim wolves at bay as the hapless Europeans cave in/submit/ and self destruct.


    The Expulsion of the Jews from Muslim Countries, 1920-1970: A History of Ongoing Cruelty and Discrimination
    Prof. Shmuel Trigano, November 4, 2010

    Between 1920 and 1970, 900,000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries. The 1940s were a turning point in this tragedy; of those expelled, 600,000 settled in the new state of Israel, and 300,000 in France and the United States. Today, they and their descendents form the majority of the French Jewish community and a large part of Israel’s population.
    In the countries that expelled Jews, a combination of six legal, economic, and political measures aimed at isolating Jews in society was instituted: denationalization; legal discrimination; isolation and sequestration; economic despoilment; socioeconomic discrimination; and pogroms or similar acts.
    It is the custom to say that Zionism was responsible for this development. However, the region’s anti-Semitism would have developed even without the rise of the state of Israel because of Arab-Islamic nationalism, which resulted in xenophobia.
    http://jcpa.org/article/the-expulsion-of-the-jews-from-muslim-countries-1920-1970-a-history-of-ongoing-cruelty-and-discrimination/
     

    Ohhhhhhkay Clyde.

    So we gotta give the Jews the keys to the castle because if not the muslims will conquer us?

    The Jews are the ones who destabilized Muslim countries to make room for the greater Isreal project, and Jews are the people who are forcing western countries to accept Muslim immigrants.

    Sounds like Jews are just manufacturing problems for the west to justify further Jewish rule.

    No thanks.

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    The Jews are the ones who destabilized Muslim countries to make room for the greater Isreal project, and Jews are the people who are forcing western countries to accept Muslim immigrants.
     
    If you stepped back for a moment you might see how silly you sound. So Jews forced Germany and Sweden to take in all those Muslim migrants in the last two years.? Angela Merkel is Jewish?
    What is really going on is that Israel does a good job of fending off the Muslim hordes while the leftist Europeans invite them in via mass immigration invasions.
    ________
    According to the Pew Forum, the total number of Muslims in Europe in 2010 was about 44 million (6%),[32] excluding Turkey. The total number of Muslims in the European Union in 2010 was about 19 million (3.8%).[32] Approximately 9 million Turks are living in Europe, excluding the Turkish population of Turkey, which makes up the largest Muslim immigrant community in Europe.[33] However the real number of Muslims in Europe is not well-known.
  89. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Lot

    Stealing land is Israel’s core and DNA.
     
    You just say this. Both the Bible, genetic history, and the right of conquest that established the borders of nearly every country all say the West Bank is rightfully Israel's.

    The Golan Heights were taken after Syria twice invaded Israel.

    Did you really just say that the Bible gives you the rights to that land? Lol

    Jewish genetics trace back to Europe as much as the holy land.

    And as far as right of conquest, you actually got that part right. But what was stolen can be taken back.

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    I agree the Arabs have a right to try to reconquer Israel. They have failed repeatedly. They should fight honorable declared wars, then accept a reasonable peace when defeated.
  90. @OilcanFloyd
    "If Assad goes, so goes Syria. It would be a chaotic mess and Israel would be justified to invade to establish a huge “security zone”, now cleared of Syrians killed or refugeed. Jewish settlements would appear in these occupied territories, as they did in the Golan. None of this is disclosed or discussed in the American media. But it does explain why nearly all American political leaders chant “Assad Must Go!” yet refuse to explain why."

    I had never heard of Greater Israel until I read a Wolf Blitzer article in the Jerusalem Post covering the push for an Israel from the Mediterranean to Mesopotamia. Apparently Zionists believe that most of the Middle East belongs to them, not just Israel, the West Bank, Occupied Territories and small parts of neighboring countries. I have no idea if the Israeli edition of the paper is different than the American edition, but I don't believe that Blitzer would ever speak of Greater Israel to a non-Jewish, American audience. That's a real problem.

    I really don't care that much about the ME, and believe that many of our current problems are due to Jewish power in America, not Israeli influence. Put a hard check on Jewish power in the U.S., and Israel wouldn't be the issue it is, and the ME would be much more stable. America would also be freer, less corrupt and likely more prosperous. At the very least, Americans would be better informed.

    I have no idea if the Israeli edition of the paper is different than the American edition

    Usually the English-language versions are similar if not identical. It’s the Hebrew editions which are different. The redoubtable Israel Shahak made a cottage industry back in the day of comparing & contrasting English- and Hebrew-language versions of Israeli media. It was fun, and scary.

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    I guess that Blitzer was counting on the fact that non-Jews outside of Israel don't read the English version of the JP, and that the MSM in the U.S. would not see or report on his article.

    Correction: English not American edition.

  91. @Avery
    {Do you think people in Turkey are from what is now Mongolia, just because they speak a Turkic language.}

    Yes, Turks - different from Kurds - in Asia Minor are descendants of UygurTürkoğlar nomad invaders from East and Central Asia.

    In fact Muslim Turk nomad invaders did wipe out the natives - indigenous peoples of Asia Minor (Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks (latecomers), others) - and replace them.

    You must have been living in a cave all these years not to have heard about the Armenian Genocide (and Assyrian Genocide, and Pontic Greek Genocide) by invadonomad Muslim Turks.

    There are certainly genes of indigenous peoples mixed in, in what are called Turks today: no surprise after several centuries of nomad Turks abducting indigenous Christian women and children and forcibly mixing their nomad genes with cultured peoples'.

    But at the core, Turks are the same savage nomad Turks that invaded Asia Minor around 1,000 A.D.
    They were nomad savages 1,000 years ago and still are.

    LOL.

    This squirrel “must have been living in a cave all these years” not to anticipate a smackdown coming from Avery!

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  92. Another apartheid country, South Africa, had to remake itself after becoming delegitimized and universally condemned, so the end of Israel is within sight.

    This type of rhetoric is meaningless without a timeline.

    Yes, the world think the Land of Israel rightfully belongs to the Palestinians. What else is new?

    It doesn’t matter what the gentiles say, it only matters what the gentiles *do*. And the last 100 years have shown that the gentiles aren’t going to do jack shit about our dispossession of the Palestinians. Polls show that in every non Islamic country, even ultra anti semitic places like Germany, Greece and Hungary, the population overwhelmingly believes their countries should be neutral.

    And even if the world’s non Islamic countries decided that they were going to try to take on Israel, which will never happen, what could they do anyway? The only country that has the ability to project force against Israel is the US, and by the time the US turns against Israel it will have long lost it’s ability to project military power globally.

    I don’t have a problem with people saying that Israel is going down. But when people refuse to give a timeline or explain how a country as powerful as Israel is going to be destroyed, it is just pathetic and annoying.

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  93. @Kyle McKenna

    I have no idea if the Israeli edition of the paper is different than the American edition
     
    Usually the English-language versions are similar if not identical. It's the Hebrew editions which are different. The redoubtable Israel Shahak made a cottage industry back in the day of comparing & contrasting English- and Hebrew-language versions of Israeli media. It was fun, and scary.

    I guess that Blitzer was counting on the fact that non-Jews outside of Israel don’t read the English version of the JP, and that the MSM in the U.S. would not see or report on his article.

    Correction: English not American edition.

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  94. @Kyle McKenna
    Thanks for educating me, and I apologize for my last remark especially. I had looked up 'John Kerry Jewish' upon reading your piece but couldn't find anything. As the other commenter said, it may be a stretch to call him Jewish outright, but at least his facial physiognomy makes more sense now ;)

    Hi Kyle,

    I’m going to change my name to Fergus O’Breasail and run for Boston City Council!

    It is curious that Fritz Kohn [Cohen, Kahan, Cohn] decided on an Irish surname, since the Irish were very low on the totem pole in 1905 America, when the newly minted Fred Kerry arrived in Chicago.

    Linh

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Well, that's what the Irish would have you believe. But in Boston, for example, the first Irish-born mayor (Hugh O'Brien) was elected in in 1884--more than twenty years earlier--and went on to serve four terms.

    The first Irish-born mayor of in New York was four years earlier--Wm Russell Grace in 1880.

    Chicago's first Irish-American mayor, with them so very low on the totem pole, was John Patrick Hopkins, elected in 1893 (although some claim Alexander Lloyd of 1840 was also of Irish descent).

    , @Anonymous

    I’m going to change my name to Fergus O’Breasail and run for Boston City Council!

    It is curious that Fritz Kohn [Cohen, Kahan, Cohn] decided on an Irish surname, since the Irish were very low on the totem pole in 1905 America, when the newly minted Fred Kerry arrived in Chicago.
     
    LOL. I live in Boston. I'll look for and vote for you four times Fergus O'Breasail. But I think your name change should be "Liam Dineen".
  95. @Kyle McKenna
    Which is one of several reasons to support integrating the two peoples into one democratic state. Also, unlike the so-called 'two-state solution' integration is actually possible. Again, South Africa provides the template. I never said it was perfect...

    The Israelis will never agree to accept Palestinians as citizens with equal rights (which would obviously be madness), and they’ve got nukes…who’s willing to risk the Samson option for the sake of the Palestinians? I don’t think the comparison with South Africa is that meaningful, whites there were a much lower percentage of the population.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna

    I don’t think the comparison with South Africa is that meaningful, whites there were a much lower percentage of the population.
     
    Also FWIW, whites were a much, much higher percentage of the population in SA 50 and 100 years ago, before out-migration of whites and in-migration of blacks intensified. Moreover, the vastly higher birth rates of blacks accelerated the effect even more.

    So the comparison remains germane, if you take your three dimensions and add time. Where the comparison falls down is with the extreme violence which Israelis have visited upon the Palestinians. If the Apartheid authorities had slaughtered 1200-1500 Africans at a time, as Israel has done in Gaza and Lebanon, boycotts and divestments would have been the least of their worries.
  96. @Linh Dinh
    Hi Kyle,

    I'm going to change my name to Fergus O'Breasail and run for Boston City Council!

    It is curious that Fritz Kohn [Cohen, Kahan, Cohn] decided on an Irish surname, since the Irish were very low on the totem pole in 1905 America, when the newly minted Fred Kerry arrived in Chicago.


    Linh

    Well, that’s what the Irish would have you believe. But in Boston, for example, the first Irish-born mayor (Hugh O’Brien) was elected in in 1884–more than twenty years earlier–and went on to serve four terms.

    The first Irish-born mayor of in New York was four years earlier–Wm Russell Grace in 1880.

    Chicago’s first Irish-American mayor, with them so very low on the totem pole, was John Patrick Hopkins, elected in 1893 (although some claim Alexander Lloyd of 1840 was also of Irish descent).

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    • Replies: @Linh Dinh
    Hi Kyle,

    I have Thomas Sowell's Ethnic America in front of me. I quote from the chapter on the Irish:


    One of the earliest and most spectacular rises of the Irish in America was in politics. Block voting of the Irish in the big cities, where they were often the largest single group, assured them political influence, evident as early as the 1830s.
     
    From the same chapter, though, there is this:

    As late as 1906, there were more Irish than Italian paupers, beggars, and inmates of almhouses, even though the Italians arrived a generation later and were generaly poorer at the turn of the century.
     
    A couple decades ago, I found a guide book to New York from around 1900, and it said there were many Chinese men married to Irish women, since both groups were socially at the bottom. Moving so many times, I no longer have this curious book to cite from, unfortunately.


    Linh

  97. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Linh Dinh
    Hi Kyle,

    I'm going to change my name to Fergus O'Breasail and run for Boston City Council!

    It is curious that Fritz Kohn [Cohen, Kahan, Cohn] decided on an Irish surname, since the Irish were very low on the totem pole in 1905 America, when the newly minted Fred Kerry arrived in Chicago.


    Linh

    I’m going to change my name to Fergus O’Breasail and run for Boston City Council!

    It is curious that Fritz Kohn [Cohen, Kahan, Cohn] decided on an Irish surname, since the Irish were very low on the totem pole in 1905 America, when the newly minted Fred Kerry arrived in Chicago.

    LOL. I live in Boston. I’ll look for and vote for you four times Fergus O’Breasail. But I think your name change should be “Liam Dineen”.

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  98. @De Gaulle
    What is truth? Are there facts about Israel and Palestine all may agree on? Much discussion seems no more than speculation and conjecture.
    Forgotten former email so now am De Gaulle2

    Truth: if peace were declared today and Palestine layed down all their arms, tomorrow they would enjoy their new peace. If Israel were to disarm today, tomorrow they would be massacred.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    FredFish, that is so very sad.

    How can we help?

    What comfort can we give to poor beleaguered Israelis, doing everything they can possibly do to keep from being massacred?

    Oh.
    Oh.
    Just so
    very
    depressing.

    How can Israelis possibly draw a breath, and make it one day to the next knowing that if they got rid of their nuclear weapons, their nuclear subs, their tanks, drones, airplanes, checkpoints, high-tech weapons, DIME, phosphorus munitions, Skunk bombs, sonic bombs they might be massacred??

    How can ANYONE live a happy life, frolic on the beach, carry multiple passports and keep houses on several different landmasses with the realization always, always hanging over his head like the sword of Damocles that if the entire population of young Israelis were not armed to the teeth and trained to kill children, then Israelis might be massacred??

    aaaahhhhh.

    so
    very
    sad.

    sigh
  99. Wow, just look at Richd Kerry’s photo. It’s as someone said when the NYT ‘exposed’ Madeleine Albright’s shocking lineage: “Are you really surprised? Just look at her!”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kerry

    I definitely got edumacated today ;)

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    A colleague, Jack (& his wife) just had a baby.

    Jack's parents were divorced ~10 years ago, when Jack was in mid-20s.

    Jack's father Mike re-married, to Emily.

    Episcopal church bulletin where Mike & Emily attend announced that Emily is grandmother of Jack's child.

    If that were a synagogue instead of an Episcopal church, would lineage be traced to the legal (grand)mother, the biological (grand)mother, or the religious (grand)mother?

  100. @Anonymous
    Quit being so melodramatic and politically correct.

    You act like Jews themselves don't throughly investigate a person's background for jewish heritage to see if they will be good to the tribe.

    Isreal itself is a racial state. They absolutely consider how jewish you are for citizenship and what positions you will hold in society.

    Quit being so melodramatic and politically correct.

    Grow up.

    You act like Jews themselves don’t throughly investigate a person’s background for jewish heritage to see if they will be good to the tribe.

    Isreal itself is a racial state. They absolutely consider how jewish you are for citizenship and what positions you will hold in society.

    What has this to do with what I wrote?

    Are you trying to suggest that Kerry would be considered “jewish enough” for Israeli citizenship and therefore that justifies Linh Dinh’s suggestion that Obama would have take extra satisfaction in having “a jew” deliver his message? If so, then you would have been better concentrating on explaining yourself better rather than slinging childish, inaccurate and over-defensive accusations.

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  101. @Skeptikal
    "genetic history,"

    This is a biggie. I have long thought that all Israeli Jews should have DNA profiles done and compare them to archaeological remains.
    That would quickly separate the sheep from the goats.
    But I am unaware of any program to systematically carry out DNA tests on the Jewish colonizers and settlers.
    In particular I would love to see the tests of the Jewish cowboys who have transferred from substandard digs in Brooklyn to a nice house in the the settlements, all on the Israeli (read American) taxpayer's shekel.

    It’s pretty well known that many, many of the Russian “jews” who immigrated to Israel and America are not Jews at all.

    Many of the Russian not Jews only live in Israel a few months of the year. The rest of the time they are home in Russia.

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    @Kyle McKenna
    Wow, just look at Richd Kerry's photo. It's as someone said when the NYT 'exposed' Madeleine Albright's shocking lineage: "Are you really surprised? Just look at her!"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kerry

    I definitely got edumacated today ;)

    A colleague, Jack (& his wife) just had a baby.

    Jack’s parents were divorced ~10 years ago, when Jack was in mid-20s.

    Jack’s father Mike re-married, to Emily.

    Episcopal church bulletin where Mike & Emily attend announced that Emily is grandmother of Jack’s child.

    If that were a synagogue instead of an Episcopal church, would lineage be traced to the legal (grand)mother, the biological (grand)mother, or the religious (grand)mother?

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    > Episcopal church bulletin where Mike & Emily attend announced that Emily is grandmother of Jack’s child


    Most likely, a secretary in the church office wrote that. Churchian statements of such a nature often tend to revolve around who's gonna make the donations which occur from the kid's future "lifecycle celebrations"

    Before it is anything else, religion is a business. Including the YHWH-cult.

    I can recommend "Temples, Tithes, & Taxes" at amazon. I forget the authoress' name. She's a CPA-turned-religion-professor at a small Protestant seminary in Pennsylvania, if memory serves.

    Throughout the ancient middle east, centralized temple buildings encompassed a wide range of routine economic activities. EG, writing shipping insurance, issuing documentary letters of credit, acting as bonded warehouses, etc.

    The humans of that era were not crazier than those of now. These practices arose because it made the most sense in their (pre-technology) world.
  103. @Kyle McKenna
    Well, that's what the Irish would have you believe. But in Boston, for example, the first Irish-born mayor (Hugh O'Brien) was elected in in 1884--more than twenty years earlier--and went on to serve four terms.

    The first Irish-born mayor of in New York was four years earlier--Wm Russell Grace in 1880.

    Chicago's first Irish-American mayor, with them so very low on the totem pole, was John Patrick Hopkins, elected in 1893 (although some claim Alexander Lloyd of 1840 was also of Irish descent).

    Hi Kyle,

    I have Thomas Sowell’s Ethnic America in front of me. I quote from the chapter on the Irish:

    One of the earliest and most spectacular rises of the Irish in America was in politics. Block voting of the Irish in the big cities, where they were often the largest single group, assured them political influence, evident as early as the 1830s.

    From the same chapter, though, there is this:

    As late as 1906, there were more Irish than Italian paupers, beggars, and inmates of almhouses, even though the Italians arrived a generation later and were generaly poorer at the turn of the century.

    A couple decades ago, I found a guide book to New York from around 1900, and it said there were many Chinese men married to Irish women, since both groups were socially at the bottom. Moving so many times, I no longer have this curious book to cite from, unfortunately.

    Linh

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    Interesting.

    there were more Irish than Italian paupers
     
    But there were also more Irish than Italian immigrants, for several decades anyway. So is Sowell talking numbers or percentages?

    Strive to keep your hard copies (or at least scanned versions) of old material, particularly that which is politically 'out of style'...as we've seen lately, gatekeepers such as Google and Facebook are only too happy to delete far more recent material from the public record, if it's politically 'inconvenient' material.

    People deride me my vast collection of old books. But they are at the mercy of political fashion, not that that bothers them, or is even apparent to them. All this in the FWIW dept of course.

    , @Hibernian
    Even in the 19th century, politics, the police force, and the priesthood were not the only avenues of social mobility for Irish-Americans. Google "Irish Big Four," and/or "Silver Kings," and/or "Auction Lunch Rooms." Two Irish born and two American born Irish-American men teamed up to make vast fortunes in Nevada silver mining. The surnames of three of them were Fair, McKay, and O' Brien; I forget the fourth.
    , @Anonymous

    A couple decades ago, I found a guide book to New York from around 1900, and it said there were many Chinese men married to Irish women, since both groups were socially at the bottom. Moving so many times, I no longer have this curious book to cite from, unfortunately.
     
    Today you'll find the same pairings in places like Cambridge, MA, among the cognitive elite. Irish-American women with names Colleen Chung and Megan Wong, who met their Chinese husbands while they were both MIT post-docs.
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    @FredFish
    Truth: if peace were declared today and Palestine layed down all their arms, tomorrow they would enjoy their new peace. If Israel were to disarm today, tomorrow they would be massacred.

    FredFish, that is so very sad.

    How can we help?

    What comfort can we give to poor beleaguered Israelis, doing everything they can possibly do to keep from being massacred?

    Oh.
    Oh.
    Just so
    very
    depressing.

    How can Israelis possibly draw a breath, and make it one day to the next knowing that if they got rid of their nuclear weapons, their nuclear subs, their tanks, drones, airplanes, checkpoints, high-tech weapons, DIME, phosphorus munitions, Skunk bombs, sonic bombs they might be massacred??

    How can ANYONE live a happy life, frolic on the beach, carry multiple passports and keep houses on several different landmasses with the realization always, always hanging over his head like the sword of Damocles that if the entire population of young Israelis were not armed to the teeth and trained to kill children, then Israelis might be massacred??

    aaaahhhhh.

    so
    very
    sad.

    sigh

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    Anon

    From hasbara central.comfort would be much appreciated.just bend over and let bibi drive.he knows the way
  105. @annamaria
    Could you also elucidate the source of the birthright of the former Soviet Jews on the Palestinian orchards and century-old Palestinian cemeteries ? What about the "good-German" behavior towards Palestinian civilians by the "most moral" IDF? The use of torture (even on the the underage) and the collective punishment against the NATIVE Palestinians by the newcomers?
    There is nothing new about Israelis' behavior: the "most moral" imitates both the Kievan pogroms and Nazi' tactics against "unworthy" and "unchosen."
    When getting power in Russia one hundred years ago, in 1917, the commanding Jews were totally merciless towards Russian nobility and Russian clergy; by trying to exterminate the intellectuals, the Bolshevic power aimed at exterminating the important carriers of the native cultural traditions.
    In the US, the ziocons have been "arranging" the channeling of the country resources towards their dearest project of Eretz Israel, while spreading lies (see Ledeen and Iraq WMD) and removing the competent and principled America-firsters from the position of influence (see the story of the idiotic Douglas Feith and the superbly qualified Colonel Patrick Lang). The criminal policies in the Middle East - the policies that follow miraculously the Yinon Plan for Eretz Israel - have resulted in the ruined states of Iraq, Libya, and Syria and in the huge waves of desperate people (including the whole families with small children) running from the death and destruction. When you write, "Meanwhile Islam is conquering Europe via immigration," you remind the readers that the "conquering of Europe by Islam" is the direct consequence of the wars against the formerly-functioning neighbors of Israel. Moreover, Europe would not suffer from the ongoing waves of low-IQ sub-Saharan migrants if Qaddaffi were still in power in Libya. But the members of PNAC had a plan for the Middle East.
    It is an open secret that the state of Israel does not want to have the prosperous and stable states among its neighbors. For instance, listen carefully to some prominent Israeli generals that articulate their preference for ISIS to sovereign Syria.

    You are another member of the Yinon cult. As if something this obscure nobody Yinon said 30 years ago has guided Israeli policy. Your Rosetta stone for understanding Israel……hilarious!

    Cutting through your windbag post….. The equation is very simple, roughly 800,000 Arabs were displaced when Israel was born. After they attacked the Jews and lost that war. Many of them fled planning on returning after the Arab armies massacred the Jews. But the Jews won and Israel was created. Prior to this these Jews were called Palestinians and today’s Jerusalem Post newspaper was called the Palestine Post.
    Before and after Israel’s creation Jews were being forced to live oppressive dhimmi lives in the Arab Muslim nations. Iraq had 300,000 Jews. As revenge for the creation of Israel the Arab Muslim nations made life lots worse for Jews. 800,000 Jews were were forced out with most taken in by Israel. Most left without any money or compensation for anything they owned.

    This looks like a population exchange to me. There were other ones after WW2 such as Germans being kicked out of Russian lands they had farmed and lived in for generations.

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    was it mentioning of the documented role of Jewish revolutionaries in a victory of Bolshevism in Russia, which struck the nerve and provoked your rudeness?
    You prefer to evoke the history of the Middle East in pre-Nuremberg times. Since then the west became populated by Holocaust museums and Germany was forced to pay huge compensations to Jewish survivors. The international law had changed since Nuremberg process; and if you believe that the lost Jewish property in Europe should be compensated, then Palestinians have the right to demand compensation for their lost property in Israel.
    You want the state of Israel look glorious, righteous, and powerful? - That's fine. However, the problem with Israel-firsters is their pretense on superior morality of Israel - and this is something that the civilized world does not recognize (anymore), and for good measure. For instance, any criticism of Israel' policies became equated, magically, with anti-Semitism (which became criminalized): https://theintercept.com/2016/02/16/greatest-threat-to-free-speech-in-the-west-criminalizing-activism-against-israeli-occupation/
    Then there is an amazing story of a book - a documentary! - that has been sequestered by all main publishing houses in the US/EU: http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
    Going back to Yinon plan, the ziocon-produced "Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" was surprisingly reminiscent of the Yinon Plan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinon_Plan
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html
    , @Bill Jones
    The vomiting of the state of Israel on the people of Palestine was the biggest mistake since WWII.
  106. @Wally
    Hasbarist hilarity.

    The Bible says so? LOL

    Actually Syria defended itself from that "shitty little county".

    and:
    Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine
    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/

    And why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?

    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    Must reads:
    Holocaust Handbooks & Documentaries
    http://holocausthandbooks.com
    and:
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1

    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    42 Wally> The Bible says so? LOL

    so you also reject American-Indian claims that they should be able to exclude others, and shut down usage of – their “sacred places” ?

    Is Linh Dinh cool with me tearing up Buddhist sacred places in Vietnam?

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    There is no comparison to what a book called The Bible says and what American Indians claim.
  107. “the end of Israel is within sight”

    On the contrary, Israel has never been stronger than they are right now.

    They have a nationalist/social conservative government and culture, a high birthrate among their core ethnic group, an immigration system designed to bolster their core ethnic group, and the world’s best border fence; their core ethnic group is the majority, and likely to remain the majority.

    They are militarily unassailable. They have the strongest conventional military in the Middle East, and the only nuclear arsenal in the Middle East. Of their 4 main foreign enemies, Iraq, Libya and Syria have been completely destroyed, and Iran is distant. Furthermore, the Syrian Civil War has driven a wedge between Shiites and secular Arab nationalists on the one hand, and radical Sunnis on the other – permanently weakening hostile militant groups.

    Neither America nor Europe want to impose stringent economic sanctions on Israel; barring massive demographic change or a radical change in popular attitudes, they probably never will.

    The only real danger Israel faces is her friends in the West. In both America and in Western Europe, the staunchest supporters of Israel are also the most flamboyant supporters of invade-the-world/invite-the-world. This is terribly short-sighted.

    As I made clear above, Israel no longer needs the support which America can no longer afford. America needs to boost exports, yet the friends of Israel support job-killing sanctions against Russia, Syria and Iran. America is facing a budget crisis, yet the friends of Israel support massive aid to Israel, including bribes to Egypt and Jordan to maintain an Israel-friendly stance, and aid to Syrian rebels. Americans want justice for the terrorist attacks committed by radical Sunni groups such as Al-Qaeda and ISIS, yet the friends of Israel want wars against the enemies of Al-Qaeda and ISIS – Saddam Hussein, Qaddafi, Assad, Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis etc. This foreign policy, which clearly doesn’t put America First, hasn’t turned the masses against Israel – at least, not yet. But if this disastrous foreign policy continues, despite the fact that Israel no longer needs this assistance, and despite the hopes raised by the America First campaign promises of President-Elect Trump, a nasty anti-Israel backlash is a strong possibility.

    Similarly, pro-Israel sentiment in America and Western Europe could change to reflect 3rd world anti-Israel sentiment, if the mass immigration supported by the misguided friends of Israel continues.

    If President-Elect Trump is a true friend of Israel, he will ignore the misguided Israel lobby and implement his promise to make America First the theme of his presidency – in trade, immigration, and foreign policy – and he will encourage his European counterparts to also rule as nationalists. Israeli nationalism will no longer be so open to criticism when other nations are also embracing nationalism.

    And if, in a future crisis, Israel needs more fund’s than her tax base and credit can provide, then her wealthy friends such as Paul Singer and Haim Shaban should consider giving directly to Israel, rather than bribing American politicians to squander taxpayer dollars.

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    I basically agree. I'm sick of giving Israel a blank check, though I don't think they're a major threat to the USA.
  108. @biz
    There is no such thing as a "Palestinian." They are Muslim Arabs. For purely propaganda purposes some people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, precisely to confuse Westerners into thinking that there is not an Arab-Jewish conflict but rather a Palestinian-Jewish one. I see that this sleight of hand worked on you.

    There is only an Arab-Jewish conflict and as Arabs they are responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Jews. Furthermore, in regard to what Nazis did, their biggest collaborators were in the Arab world, led by the Mufti Al-Husseni. So actually, Arabs are far from blameless for the Nazi holocaust.

    Yipes!

    biz (Netenyahooo) wrote:

    Propaganda:

    1. “There is no such thing as a “Palestinian.”

    2. “They are Muslim Arabs.”

    3. ” people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, ”

    The Truth:

    1. Hmmm! Essentially, an American is someone who was born and raised somewhere in America; and a Palestinian is someone who was born and raised in Palestine.

    2. Half of all Palestinians are Christians.

    3. There was the Palestinian General Strike and insurrection (for national independence) in 1936. Link enclosed below. There are books and dozens of internet links for one to learn about Palestinians.

    https://worldhistoryproject.org/1936/arab-revolt-in-palestine

    The Palestinian General Strike and the Insurrection that followed, were brutally repressed by the British Colonial Government. Many thousands of Palestinian rebels were killed – in heavy fighting.

    Note the date of the strike-1936, precedes the Netenyahooo-biz’ offered date of 1970. Hell; it precedes World War II.

    Pay attention Now!!!

    The Palestinian National struggle preceeded the Holocaust, exaggerated Holocaust, or so-called Holocaust (you choose your favorite). In 1936, Zionist Terrorists sided with Colonial England against the legitimate national aspirations of the Palestinians. Later, the Zionists would oppose the national aspirations of the South African People, and later, Vietnam, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, all of Europe, and in recent decades they have suborned the very national existence
    of the American people.

    Palestine survives by a fingernail. America survives slightly better.

    We must Restore Our Republic!

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    Haha, I didn't get past this part:

    2. Half of all Palestinians are Christians.
     
    Actual stats:
    West Bank: Christians are 1.0-2.5%
    Gaza: Christians are 0.7%

    FFS, are you anti-Israel idiot/liars even trying anymore?
  109. @Anonymous
    A colleague, Jack (& his wife) just had a baby.

    Jack's parents were divorced ~10 years ago, when Jack was in mid-20s.

    Jack's father Mike re-married, to Emily.

    Episcopal church bulletin where Mike & Emily attend announced that Emily is grandmother of Jack's child.

    If that were a synagogue instead of an Episcopal church, would lineage be traced to the legal (grand)mother, the biological (grand)mother, or the religious (grand)mother?

    > Episcopal church bulletin where Mike & Emily attend announced that Emily is grandmother of Jack’s child

    Most likely, a secretary in the church office wrote that. Churchian statements of such a nature often tend to revolve around who’s gonna make the donations which occur from the kid’s future “lifecycle celebrations”

    Before it is anything else, religion is a business. Including the YHWH-cult.

    I can recommend “Temples, Tithes, & Taxes” at amazon. I forget the authoress’ name. She’s a CPA-turned-religion-professor at a small Protestant seminary in Pennsylvania, if memory serves.

    Throughout the ancient middle east, centralized temple buildings encompassed a wide range of routine economic activities. EG, writing shipping insurance, issuing documentary letters of credit, acting as bonded warehouses, etc.

    The humans of that era were not crazier than those of now. These practices arose because it made the most sense in their (pre-technology) world.

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  110. @Anonymous
    FredFish, that is so very sad.

    How can we help?

    What comfort can we give to poor beleaguered Israelis, doing everything they can possibly do to keep from being massacred?

    Oh.
    Oh.
    Just so
    very
    depressing.

    How can Israelis possibly draw a breath, and make it one day to the next knowing that if they got rid of their nuclear weapons, their nuclear subs, their tanks, drones, airplanes, checkpoints, high-tech weapons, DIME, phosphorus munitions, Skunk bombs, sonic bombs they might be massacred??

    How can ANYONE live a happy life, frolic on the beach, carry multiple passports and keep houses on several different landmasses with the realization always, always hanging over his head like the sword of Damocles that if the entire population of young Israelis were not armed to the teeth and trained to kill children, then Israelis might be massacred??

    aaaahhhhh.

    so
    very
    sad.

    sigh

    Anon

    From hasbara central.comfort would be much appreciated.just bend over and let bibi drive.he knows the way

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  111. @Anonymous
    Ohhhhhhkay Clyde.

    So we gotta give the Jews the keys to the castle because if not the muslims will conquer us?

    The Jews are the ones who destabilized Muslim countries to make room for the greater Isreal project, and Jews are the people who are forcing western countries to accept Muslim immigrants.

    Sounds like Jews are just manufacturing problems for the west to justify further Jewish rule.

    No thanks.

    The Jews are the ones who destabilized Muslim countries to make room for the greater Isreal project, and Jews are the people who are forcing western countries to accept Muslim immigrants.

    If you stepped back for a moment you might see how silly you sound. So Jews forced Germany and Sweden to take in all those Muslim migrants in the last two years.? Angela Merkel is Jewish?
    What is really going on is that Israel does a good job of fending off the Muslim hordes while the leftist Europeans invite them in via mass immigration invasions.
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    According to the Pew Forum, the total number of Muslims in Europe in 2010 was about 44 million (6%),[32] excluding Turkey. The total number of Muslims in the European Union in 2010 was about 19 million (3.8%).[32] Approximately 9 million Turks are living in Europe, excluding the Turkish population of Turkey, which makes up the largest Muslim immigrant community in Europe.[33] However the real number of Muslims in Europe is not well-known.

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    So Jews forced Germany and Sweden to take in all those Muslim migrants in the last two years.? Angela Merkel is Jewish?
     
    She isn't, nor were FDR, LBJ, Reagan, Clinton, or Bush. And yet...

    If you stepped back for a moment you might see how silly you sound.
     
    Physician, heal thyself.
    , @K.J.

    "If you stepped back for a moment you might see how silly you sound. So Jews forced Germany and Sweden to take in all those Muslim migrants in the last two years.? Angela Merkel is Jewish?
    What is really going on is that Israel does a good job of fending off the Muslim hordes while the leftist Europeans invite them in via mass immigration invasions."
     
    Yes, Angela Merkel is Jewish as her mother is a Jewess and Bibi said she was one of them.
    Yes, Israeli helpers facilitated the migration of the Arabs last year in a number of ways. (Jewish) Merkel invited them in (no doubt in accordance with a larger plan) and Barbara Lerner Spectre, among others, admitted that Jews play a major role in making Europe's white population brown, see http://www.whyileftsweden.com/?p=198
    Yes, leftist Europeans are responsible for the mass inundation and they deride anyone who resists their opinions as Nazi, populist, rightist, nationalist, etc. Merkel, the leader of the formerly conservative CDU, was (is still?) a communist functionary who does the bidding of George Soros (so do the Greens in Germany, by the way).
    Do facts sound silly? Yes, unfortunately, in Merkel Germany they do, her favourite word nowadays is "post-factual" (in the 10 yrs previously it was "alternativlos" (sound pretty much like A.H./Stalin, no?).
  112. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @n230099
    "Another apartheid country, South Africa, had to remake itself..."

    And yet Americans that separated the indigenous peoples here putting them on their so called 'reservations' see no irony in the fact that they themselves live in settlements on occupied land. Oh yes, you'll now hear that we 'bought' or 'traded' for some of the land and that's true...well to the extent that we dealt with the ones we didn't murder as we killed our way across the land. On the bright side, we now allow them to have casinos and the President just took millions of acres of Nevada and Utah into federal custody to preserve, in part, 'sacred' sites of our own 'palestinians'. Yay America....boo Israel.

    Talk about comparing oranges and apples.

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    Even If Israel vanished tomorrow and the world found a cheap and plentiful alternative to oil, the Arab-Muslim world would still be dysfunctional, unfree and openly hostile to all the non-Islamic areas of the world. Islam was violent, predatory and expansionist from its very first beginnings. Muslims have the greatest difficulties living in harmony and peace with other peoples and as soon as their numbers reach a critical mass they cause chaos and even civil war in other countries.

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  114. @John Gruskos
    "the end of Israel is within sight"

    On the contrary, Israel has never been stronger than they are right now.

    They have a nationalist/social conservative government and culture, a high birthrate among their core ethnic group, an immigration system designed to bolster their core ethnic group, and the world's best border fence; their core ethnic group is the majority, and likely to remain the majority.

    They are militarily unassailable. They have the strongest conventional military in the Middle East, and the only nuclear arsenal in the Middle East. Of their 4 main foreign enemies, Iraq, Libya and Syria have been completely destroyed, and Iran is distant. Furthermore, the Syrian Civil War has driven a wedge between Shiites and secular Arab nationalists on the one hand, and radical Sunnis on the other - permanently weakening hostile militant groups.

    Neither America nor Europe want to impose stringent economic sanctions on Israel; barring massive demographic change or a radical change in popular attitudes, they probably never will.

    The only real danger Israel faces is her friends in the West. In both America and in Western Europe, the staunchest supporters of Israel are also the most flamboyant supporters of invade-the-world/invite-the-world. This is terribly short-sighted.

    As I made clear above, Israel no longer needs the support which America can no longer afford. America needs to boost exports, yet the friends of Israel support job-killing sanctions against Russia, Syria and Iran. America is facing a budget crisis, yet the friends of Israel support massive aid to Israel, including bribes to Egypt and Jordan to maintain an Israel-friendly stance, and aid to Syrian rebels. Americans want justice for the terrorist attacks committed by radical Sunni groups such as Al-Qaeda and ISIS, yet the friends of Israel want wars against the enemies of Al-Qaeda and ISIS - Saddam Hussein, Qaddafi, Assad, Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis etc. This foreign policy, which clearly doesn't put America First, hasn't turned the masses against Israel - at least, not yet. But if this disastrous foreign policy continues, despite the fact that Israel no longer needs this assistance, and despite the hopes raised by the America First campaign promises of President-Elect Trump, a nasty anti-Israel backlash is a strong possibility.

    Similarly, pro-Israel sentiment in America and Western Europe could change to reflect 3rd world anti-Israel sentiment, if the mass immigration supported by the misguided friends of Israel continues.

    If President-Elect Trump is a true friend of Israel, he will ignore the misguided Israel lobby and implement his promise to make America First the theme of his presidency - in trade, immigration, and foreign policy - and he will encourage his European counterparts to also rule as nationalists. Israeli nationalism will no longer be so open to criticism when other nations are also embracing nationalism.

    And if, in a future crisis, Israel needs more fund's than her tax base and credit can provide, then her wealthy friends such as Paul Singer and Haim Shaban should consider giving directly to Israel, rather than bribing American politicians to squander taxpayer dollars.

    I basically agree. I’m sick of giving Israel a blank check, though I don’t think they’re a major threat to the USA.

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    I’m sick of giving Israel a blank check, though I don’t think they’re a major threat to the USA.
     
    How many more ruinous wars against Israel's latest enemy du jour will it take before the threat becomes clear? Please permit me to remind you that the ruination isn't just economic. It's also political and moral. Once upon a time the USA could credibly claim moral leadership on the world stage. Will it ever again be able to make that claim?
  115. @Mao Cheng Ji

    It is hard to see Israel as having the same value to the US now.
     
    It has no value to the US, the nation. Not now, and not during the cold war, which itself had no value to the US, the nation.

    It certainly does have value to the US, the global empire, with its main post-cold-war objective "to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival". The resource-rich middle east, plus Iran, plus Turkey, plus - maybe - Russia and/or China - that would be a very powerful global competitor. Like I said: a very important geopolitical region.

    To say the cold war was of no value to the nation is a very curious way of expressing something and your “something” is unclear. Obviously wars tend to reduce value but that is hardly the point when for whatever reason you are in a major contest for control of the world (even if you would see it as just precautionary and therefore defensive but your opponent appears to have a messianic vision) and there is such a failure of trust or basic agreement on principles that you can’t let your guard down.

    You seem to assume a continuation of American delusions and anachronistic beliefs. The combination of countries you posit is entirely implausible, the resources of the Middle East are only peripherally relevant to US prosperity and economic power (think fracking and renewables) and there is no prospect of China not emerging as a new rival (though much more rationally concentrated on its particular interests). Regardless of China or rivalry, Russia should have been enlisted as a friend with a warm and generous embrace from 1990, a point you may well agree with.

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    To say the cold war was of no value to the nation is a very curious way of expressing something and your “something” is unclear.
     
    I don't know what that means, what you typed there. I believe that the fundamental choice was between war and 'convergence', as suggested by Sakharov, as well as some intellectuals in the West.

    I'll note that the neutral European states that essentially embraced the path of 'convergence' -- Finland, Scandinavia, Austria -- have been most successful in their socioeconomic development.


    The combination of countries you posit is entirely implausible
     
    You have the right to an opinion, of course. Obviously it's unlikely today (which is exactly my point), but then there was a period in the early 1960s, when the advances of Arab Socialism (Nasserism) were pointing to the direction of a strong Arab-Soviet alliance.

    the resources of the Middle East are only peripherally relevant to US prosperity
     
    That's irrelevant to imperial strategies; US prosperity is not the issue. Like I said, it's a resource-rich region, and therefore, if you want to be the global empire, it has to be controlled, or at least weakened and divided.
  116. @Durruti
    Yipes!

    biz (Netenyahooo) wrote:

    Propaganda:

    1. "There is no such thing as a “Palestinian.”

    2. "They are Muslim Arabs."

    3. " people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, "

    The Truth:

    1. Hmmm! Essentially, an American is someone who was born and raised somewhere in America; and a Palestinian is someone who was born and raised in Palestine.

    2. Half of all Palestinians are Christians.

    3. There was the Palestinian General Strike and insurrection (for national independence) in 1936. Link enclosed below. There are books and dozens of internet links for one to learn about Palestinians.

    https://worldhistoryproject.org/1936/arab-revolt-in-palestine

    The Palestinian General Strike and the Insurrection that followed, were brutally repressed by the British Colonial Government. Many thousands of Palestinian rebels were killed - in heavy fighting.

    Note the date of the strike-1936, precedes the Netenyahooo-biz' offered date of 1970. Hell; it precedes World War II.

    Pay attention Now!!!

    The Palestinian National struggle preceeded the Holocaust, exaggerated Holocaust, or so-called Holocaust (you choose your favorite). In 1936, Zionist Terrorists sided with Colonial England against the legitimate national aspirations of the Palestinians. Later, the Zionists would oppose the national aspirations of the South African People, and later, Vietnam, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, all of Europe, and in recent decades they have suborned the very national existence
    of the American people.

    Palestine survives by a fingernail. America survives slightly better.

    We must Restore Our Republic!

    Haha, I didn’t get past this part:

    2. Half of all Palestinians are Christians.

    Actual stats:
    West Bank: Christians are 1.0-2.5%
    Gaza: Christians are 0.7%

    FFS, are you anti-Israel idiot/liars even trying anymore?

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  117. @mcohen
    Bill

    Every single invader that came to Jerusalem knew it was the spiritual land of the Jews.even before Islam,before Christianity.they came they conquered and they left.one by one.the latest invader is Saudi Arabia.it too will leave.2017 will see the fall of the Saudi Arabia.destroyed by those they attempted to enslave.

    Sure, but it certainly isn’t the spiritual land of the Talmudists.

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  118. @Linh Dinh
    I do thank Durruti for his compliment. Let me put it this way, I used to teach at Bard College, which has an Israeli President, and once was even invited to talk to a class at Yeshiva University in Manhattan. Those kinds of opportunities are not exactly knocking down my door these days.

    For the record, Jews have been most instrumental in my life. In college, my three most supportive professors, Boris Putterman, Stephen Berg and Eileen Neff, were Jews, with Berg and Neff practically my surrogate parents, they nurtured me so much. Berg bought a painting of mine to put over his fireplace, and lent me money several times. My fiction publisher, Dan Simon, is Jewish, and Jewish Ron Unz has treated me better than any other webzine editor. Novelist Matthew Sharpe has talked me up in the fiction world. I can go on and on. Hell, my first date was with a Jewish girl, and I even lost my virginity to a Jew! I traveled through remote northwest Vietnam with photographer Mitch Epstein, and with 6-9 Lloyd Luntz, explored the Mekong Delta. Jews swarm me, fill my head, course through my veins. I can go on and on.

    Fascinating LD. You’re becoming alt-left Steve Sailer of this site. Steve, too, has mentioned his deep incubation with Jews. Jews seem to occupy the social center of this planet. For the record, my first girlfriend was Jewish.

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  119. @Clyde

    The Jews are the ones who destabilized Muslim countries to make room for the greater Isreal project, and Jews are the people who are forcing western countries to accept Muslim immigrants.
     
    If you stepped back for a moment you might see how silly you sound. So Jews forced Germany and Sweden to take in all those Muslim migrants in the last two years.? Angela Merkel is Jewish?
    What is really going on is that Israel does a good job of fending off the Muslim hordes while the leftist Europeans invite them in via mass immigration invasions.
    ________
    According to the Pew Forum, the total number of Muslims in Europe in 2010 was about 44 million (6%),[32] excluding Turkey. The total number of Muslims in the European Union in 2010 was about 19 million (3.8%).[32] Approximately 9 million Turks are living in Europe, excluding the Turkish population of Turkey, which makes up the largest Muslim immigrant community in Europe.[33] However the real number of Muslims in Europe is not well-known.

    So Jews forced Germany and Sweden to take in all those Muslim migrants in the last two years.? Angela Merkel is Jewish?

    She isn’t, nor were FDR, LBJ, Reagan, Clinton, or Bush. And yet

    If you stepped back for a moment you might see how silly you sound.

    Physician, heal thyself.

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  120. @Anonymous

    For the record, Jews have been most instrumental in my life. In college, my three most supportive professors, Boris Putterman, Stephen Berg and Eileen Neff, were Jews, with Berg and Neff practically my surrogate parents, they nurtured me so much
     
    Jews are great as intellectual middlemen. As a result they make the best popularizers. Hell, even Einstein was a popularizer. As renowned Cambridge University mathematician E.T. Whittaker detailed:

    In 1951 (Vol. 1) and 1953 (Vol. 2), he published an extended and revised edition of his book in two volumes. The second volume contains some interesting historical remarks. For example, it contains a chapter named "The Relativity Theory of Poincaré and Lorentz", where Whittaker credited Henri Poincaré and Lorentz for developing special relativity,and especially alluded to Lorentz's 1904 paper (dated by Whittaker as 1903), Poincaré's St. Louis speech (The Principles of Mathematical Physics) of September 1904, and Poincaré's June 1905 paper.[9] He attributed to Einstein's special relativity paper only little importance, which he said "set forth the relativity theory of Poincare and Lorentz with some amplifications, and which attracted much attention”, and he credited Einstein only with being the first to publish the correct relativistic formulas for relativistic aberration and the Doppler effect. He also attributed the formula
    E=mc^{2} to Poincaré. In 1984 Clifford Truesdell wrote that Whittaker "aroused colossal antagonism by trying to set the record straight on the basis of print and record rather than recollection and folklore and professional propaganda,…
     
    But don't bring this up in polite company. Einstein denial is one degree of separation from Holocaust denial. And it's no use anyway, the narrative has already been solidly established.

    Very interesting. I was aware of Poincaré’s possible priority but with fewer specifics. But I wonder if you are implying that Jews are popularisers rather than creators or original thinkers? The fact that Jews were still, in the late 19th/early 20th centuries emerging fully from the medieval to the Enlightenment (if only because so many were still illiterate) would explain why most new science was still non-Jewish. You aren’t really trying to say that all those Jewish Nobel Prize winners are basically overrated and just a class above talented plagiarisers are you?

    To my mind one of the greatest of Nazi evils was the loss of brainpower they inflicted on the world by their killing of so many Jews. Would you disagree? And on the ground that they would basically have been just popularizers?

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  121. @SFG
    I basically agree. I'm sick of giving Israel a blank check, though I don't think they're a major threat to the USA.

    I’m sick of giving Israel a blank check, though I don’t think they’re a major threat to the USA.

    How many more ruinous wars against Israel’s latest enemy du jour will it take before the threat becomes clear? Please permit me to remind you that the ruination isn’t just economic. It’s also political and moral. Once upon a time the USA could credibly claim moral leadership on the world stage. Will it ever again be able to make that claim?

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  122. Unchecked, it will gobble up even more of its neighbors’ territories.

    I tend to agree. If able to keep their birthrate high, I think Israeli Jewry will eventually start colonizing the surrounding territory (Eretz Israel), in the name of lebensraum (though I doubt they’ll use that word). They’ll expand their settlement-building project into western Jordan (east bank), southern Lebanon, southwestern Syria, and Egypt (Sinai). It will all be done as a “private” enterprise by “individual” Jews, though they will use their military to thwart any attempted move against the settlements by militaries in the countries targeted. They will use Arab cutouts to buy, and regime-change against any attempt to nationalize the land. PMCs, private militias, etc., will handle day-to-day security. It will be done one country at a time, so as to avoid biting off too much to chew. When local Arabs inevitably turn to terrorism and low-intensity conflict, the Jewish locals will put the Apartheid boot down in their areas, as a “defensive” measure. The Zionist PR machine will spin it all as a story of “Jews persecuted by Muslims.” This will continue as long as their birthrate is high, and no interested party has nukes.

    This is all assuming the Israelis don’t come up with some innovative way to turn the Negev into fertile land (say, truly cost-efficient solar power), which is probably at least as likely. In that case, they’ll develop the Negev first, but they’ll have a huge problem on their hands, because the Arabs will do the same with their deserts, and churn out a couple billion kids.

    If Assad goes, so goes Syria. It would be a chaotic mess and Israel would be justified to invade to establish a huge “security zone”, now cleared of Syrians killed or refugeed. Jewish settlements would appear in these occupied territories, as they did in the Golan. None of this is disclosed or discussed in the American media. But it does explain why nearly all American political leaders chant “Assad Must Go!” yet refuse to explain why.

    Indeed, this would seem plausible, and to mesh well with the plan outlined above.

    The very next day, Israel announced it would build 3,000 more homes for Jews in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem. Screw the world, responded Israel.

    It is kind of interesting how Israeli Jews have openly framed their settlement-building as an assault on the world, “revenge” against their enemies, etc. It seems to be their response to every offense. Which sort of makes it obvious that their settlements are offensive (as Boobie is fond of saying, “Jews don’t turn the other cheek”)…

    The Muslims will forever be oppressed and dominated by the Europeans and the Jews. They will forever be poor, backward and weak.

    Well, they might consider sorting out their rulers, who keep fighting amongst themselves.

    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven.

    Well, no. The Palestinians should not have to pay for what their neighbors did, any more than they should have to pay for what the Europeans did.

    You just say this. Both the Bible, genetic history, and the right of conquest that established the borders of nearly every country all say the West Bank is rightfully Israel’s.

    The Golan Heights were taken after Syria twice invaded Israel.

    Scratch a moderate rightist, find a radical Zionist?

    The Bible isn’t relevant to the rest of the world, or to Israel’s neighbors. In fact, its use as a factor in American foreign policy is probably a violation to the Holy Separation of Church and State, as practiced by modern diaspora Jewry, and the American left.

    Genetic history? Like, Jews were far less than 2% of America’s founding, so their population should be pared (way) back, to be in line with genetic history? That kind of genetic history?

    The right of conquest isn’t much of a justification. It works for Zionists, but few else. And it’s ye classic double-edged sword.

    US geopolitical strategists view it as an asset. Huge military base in the middle of a super-important region. An extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines.

    Not really. South Africa was a huge military base in an important region, an extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines, and the American left (led by Jews, as always) threw them under the bus. They were much more loyal and cooperative than the Israelis.

    Strategic issues are secondary.

    During the 1980′s as house parents in a busy international youth hostel in Key West, Florida my family lived with hundreds of Israeli young men and women most of whom were Sabras (native born). What was most striking about the Israelis, compared to other groups we lived with, was the flat personal aspect and steely visage of these young men and women. Many carried, at a tender age, what has been described as the thousand-yard stare of veteran combatants.

    Sort of like the Wehrmacht, or the SS.

    linh

    i have been enjoying your postcard series because they describe real people.so why write this article.did you do your research.have you been to israel.
    however when i got to the end and read the last sentence i unbuckled a chuckle.
    amen indeed

    Never speak of anywhere you’ve never been? Where does this obtain? Certainly not among Zionists, who have an awful lot to say about Arab populations they’ve never lived among. Agnostic on the Moon landings, are we? Get your Zionist friends in line, before you try to police us.

    “Another apartheid country, South Africa, had to remake itself…”

    And yet Americans that separated the indigenous peoples here putting them on their so called ‘reservations’ see no irony in the fact that they themselves live in settlements on occupied land. Oh yes, you’ll now hear that we ‘bought’ or ‘traded’ for some of the land and that’s true…well to the extent that we dealt with the ones we didn’t murder as we killed our way across the land. On the bright side, we now allow them to have casinos and the President just took millions of acres of Nevada and Utah into federal custody to preserve, in part, ‘sacred’ sites of our own ‘palestinians’. Yay America….boo Israel.

    I’d be willing to bet that at least 90% of diaspora Jews are on “team Amerind” when it comes to the American colonial debate. Just like they’re on “team black minority” vs. the white majority. But they suddenly switch values 180 degrees, when it comes to “team Palestians” and the Israeli colonial debate. They’ve got no room to talk about the irony. Just listen to you play the Zionist fiddle for the oppressed Indian natives, FFS.

    The preservation of that independence in the face of four wars of genocidal intent started by the Arabs

    Frequent Zionist lie, made no more true by their endless repetition.

    Today Israel, in spite of being nine miles wide, without natural resources, and surrounded by barbaric failed states, is a modern democracy with a human capital based economy. It has managed against all odds to not only preserve but thrive, including absorbing the Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Muslim countries which now form the majority of its population.

    Israel is an Apartheid state that continually makes a ruin of Jewry’s reputation. Shows all their leftist posturing (in the diaspora, of course) for the lie it is.

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    "They’ll expand their settlement-building project into western Jordan (east bank), southern Lebanon, southwestern Syria, and Egypt (Sinai). It will all be done as a “private” enterprise by “individual” Jews," "

    That is exactly how they got started in Palestine. Private land purchases that gradually started to "link up."
    And it is more or less how the Americans did it: Plant yourself in a territory and then demand protection from the U.S. Army.
    If I were a country abutting any "border" of Israel or anywhere in the Eretz Israel neighborhood, I would pass some very clear laws concerning land purchases by foreigners and restricting locations and densities. E.g., distance from the "border," etc. Or even specify Israelis or even Jews. Because the latter have a pattern and it is not discriminatory to point out this pattern and the dangers of obliviously letting private land purchases go forward.

    In fact, even passing such laws or publishing an intent to do so might flush out some land-grabbing Zionists by causing a rush on land purchases in Eretz Israel territory.

    , @Gabriel M

    I tend to agree. If able to keep their birthrate high, I think Israeli Jewry will eventually start colonizing the surrounding territory (Eretz Israel),
     
    Of all the gaylordy things about SJW/Stormfag ranting about Israel, the attempts to show off their insider knowledge they got from Stormfag.com by by using Hebrew terms has to be the gaylordiest. 1) It's "Eretz Yisrael". 2) The term simply means "The Land of Israel" and since this term already has a known English equivalent of long duration it is simply weird and uncouth to use the Hebrew equivalent, still less inaccurately . It's like someone pretending to be an authority about Italy and banging on about Furenzi and Venebia. Sad.

    They’ll expand their settlement-building project into western Jordan (east bank), southern Lebanon, southwestern Syria, and Egypt (Sinai). It will all be done as a “private” enterprise by “individual” Jews, though they will use their military to thwart any attempted move against the settlements by militaries in the countries targeted. They will use Arab cutouts to buy, and regime-change against any attempt to nationalize the land. PMCs, private militias, etc., will handle day-to-day security. It will be done one country at a time, so as to avoid biting off too much to chew
     
    Yeah, OK. Back in reality, here's some of our "Apartheid boot" in action.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AMMYY7kb0c

    The Arabs have actually figured out a pretty good strategy for not losing land to Israelis: don't launch wars of extermination against Israel. They've been employing this strategy since 1973 and it's served them pretty well. Shame it took them two and half decades to figure it out, but they're not the brightest tools in the box.

    In that case, they’ll develop the Negev first, but they’ll have a huge problem on their hands, because the Arabs will do the same with their deserts, and churn out a couple billion kids.
     
    By that inestimable logic, because Israel is already a world leader in medicine, biotech and computing, so is the Arab world. Any minute now I guess. You should invest, there's doubtless money to be made.
  123. @Linh Dinh
    Hi Kyle,

    I have Thomas Sowell's Ethnic America in front of me. I quote from the chapter on the Irish:


    One of the earliest and most spectacular rises of the Irish in America was in politics. Block voting of the Irish in the big cities, where they were often the largest single group, assured them political influence, evident as early as the 1830s.
     
    From the same chapter, though, there is this:

    As late as 1906, there were more Irish than Italian paupers, beggars, and inmates of almhouses, even though the Italians arrived a generation later and were generaly poorer at the turn of the century.
     
    A couple decades ago, I found a guide book to New York from around 1900, and it said there were many Chinese men married to Irish women, since both groups were socially at the bottom. Moving so many times, I no longer have this curious book to cite from, unfortunately.


    Linh

    Interesting.

    there were more Irish than Italian paupers

    But there were also more Irish than Italian immigrants, for several decades anyway. So is Sowell talking numbers or percentages?

    Strive to keep your hard copies (or at least scanned versions) of old material, particularly that which is politically ‘out of style’…as we’ve seen lately, gatekeepers such as Google and Facebook are only too happy to delete far more recent material from the public record, if it’s politically ‘inconvenient’ material.

    People deride me my vast collection of old books. But they are at the mercy of political fashion, not that that bothers them, or is even apparent to them. All this in the FWIW dept of course.

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  124. @Linh Dinh
    Yes, it was Hafez al-Assad and not his son. Kerry is as Jewish as Obama is black, for his father was 100% Jewish. My confusion of Bashar with Hafez does not detract from my argument. Instead of nitpicking, do refute that.

    There is too much good stuff in the comments, especially yours, for me to continue my criticism but I do note that your comparison of Kerry and Obama fails in an obvious way that I would have thought you would have noticed. Kerry in no way identifies as Jewish but Obama has made much of his black identity and sympathies.

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  125. @Avery
    {Do you think people in Turkey are from what is now Mongolia, just because they speak a Turkic language.}

    Yes, Turks - different from Kurds - in Asia Minor are descendants of UygurTürkoğlar nomad invaders from East and Central Asia.

    In fact Muslim Turk nomad invaders did wipe out the natives - indigenous peoples of Asia Minor (Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks (latecomers), others) - and replace them.

    You must have been living in a cave all these years not to have heard about the Armenian Genocide (and Assyrian Genocide, and Pontic Greek Genocide) by invadonomad Muslim Turks.

    There are certainly genes of indigenous peoples mixed in, in what are called Turks today: no surprise after several centuries of nomad Turks abducting indigenous Christian women and children and forcibly mixing their nomad genes with cultured peoples'.

    But at the core, Turks are the same savage nomad Turks that invaded Asia Minor around 1,000 A.D.
    They were nomad savages 1,000 years ago and still are.

    What has the Armenian genocide got to do with DNA ancestry of Anatolian Turks?

    You are wrong ; the bulk of the genetic ancestry of modern day Anatolian Turks is a carry-over from pre-Turkic inhabitants. Population genetic studies pegged East Asian Y-Dna at around 8%.

    Just look at the phenotype of Turkic speaking people like the Uighurs, Kazakh , Krygz and Turkmen and compare them to Anatolian Turks. Vast majority of Turks do not have that East Asian epicanthic eyefold.

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    This is what you wrote above: {....invaders did not wipe out the natives and replace them, ....}

    Then: {Do you think people in Turkey are from what is now Mongolia, just because they speak a Turkic language.}

    Implying that Turk invader did not wipe out the natives.
    You did imply that, did you not?

    So......what the Armenian Genocide has to do with it is this: contrary to what you wrote about invaders not wiping out the natives, a patently false claim and a bold faced Denialist lie, Turk invaders in fact did wipe out the indigenous peoples of Asia Minor - Armenians, Assyrians, and Pontic Greeks. About 4 million or so Christian Armenians, Christian Assyrians, and Christian Greeks wiped out by invading Muslim Turks between 1895 and 1923 alone. No reliable records how many the nomad Turk invaders wiped out before 1895.

    After you have figured out that 'genocide' in fact means 'wipe out', we can discuss DNA, eyefold, and all that.

    Let me know when you are ready.

    , @L.K
    greysquirrell,

    Avery knows all that, he is just a sad Armenian LIAR who hates Turks and consistently lies about them.
    Avery thinks that hysterically screaming 2 + 2 =5 on a daily basis, will eventually convince people, at least ignorant people, that the Turks from Turkey are 'nomadic uigher nomadic savages' from China or wherever.

    Pathetic really.

    You are also correct about the Palestinians. The Arab invaders never expelled them( nor did the Romans expell the Jews, another zio myth), only mixed with the indigenous people to an extent.

    The Palestinians are an ancient Levantine people whose core origins go back to pre-historic times.
  126. Notice the way the entire KM (kosher media) is now just lacerating Obongo and Johnny Ketchup? Anything happen lately to engender all this jooie bile and hatred? Funny, can’t think of anything right off…….

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  127. @German_reader
    The Israelis will never agree to accept Palestinians as citizens with equal rights (which would obviously be madness), and they've got nukes...who's willing to risk the Samson option for the sake of the Palestinians? I don't think the comparison with South Africa is that meaningful, whites there were a much lower percentage of the population.

    I don’t think the comparison with South Africa is that meaningful, whites there were a much lower percentage of the population.

    Also FWIW, whites were a much, much higher percentage of the population in SA 50 and 100 years ago, before out-migration of whites and in-migration of blacks intensified. Moreover, the vastly higher birth rates of blacks accelerated the effect even more.

    So the comparison remains germane, if you take your three dimensions and add time. Where the comparison falls down is with the extreme violence which Israelis have visited upon the Palestinians. If the Apartheid authorities had slaughtered 1200-1500 Africans at a time, as Israel has done in Gaza and Lebanon, boycotts and divestments would have been the least of their worries.

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    If the Apartheid authorities had slaughtered 1200-1500 Africans at a time, as Israel has done in Gaza and Lebanon
     
    What "if"?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_War
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War

    Looking at what a real war looks like can induce a serious case of perspective.

  128. @Lorax
    A person who is born to a Jewish mother is Jewish. It's that simple.
    John Kerry was born to Rosemary Forbes, and his mother was Episcopalian.
    He is not a born (or converted) Jew. Has some Ashkenazi DNA though.
    As do Michael Douglass, Robert Downey Jr. and Sean Penn whose mothers
    were all Christian European. Ditto for Paul Newman. All well born IMO.

    Reform Judaism has begun to recognize patriarchal descent lately.

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    Because they're getting desperate to end the outflow.
  129. The refined and evolved Jew is a mighty source of inspiration and progress for all humanity.

    Almost as inspiring as the Aryan Race and their Third Reich.

    There is no such thing as a “Palestinian.” They are Muslim Arabs. For purely propaganda purposes some people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, precisely to confuse Westerners into thinking that there is not an Arab-Jewish conflict but rather a Palestinian-Jewish one. I see that this sleight of hand worked on you.

    Diaspora Jewish response: “Indeed, indeed!”

    There is no such thing as an “Amerind,” “Native American,” or “American Indian.” They are now mostly-White descendents of people who are not properly referred to with any one arbitrary and catch-all term, but paleo-east-Asians who came over the Bering land bridge and wiped out all the irreplaceable American megafauna. For purely propaganda purposes, they have latched onto the aforementioned terms, foisted upon them by White imperialist racists.

    Diaspora Jewish response: “rrrraaaaaaciiiiiist!”

    Truth: if peace were declared today and Palestine layed down all their arms, tomorrow they would enjoy their new peace. If Israel were to disarm today, tomorrow they would be massacred.

    Diaspora Jewish response: “Hear hear!”

    If Black America would stop shooting each other today, and start acting civilized, tomorrow things would turn around for them completely. If White America stopped locking their doors at night this very day, tomorrow they would be massacred.

    Diaspora Jewish response: “rrrraaaaaaciiiiiist!”

    They [Israel] are militarily unassailable.

    The American military could crush Israel like a bug. They aren’t the only one. Better hope Jews are full of shit with all their talk of eternal, omnipresent anti-semitism…

    Even If Israel vanished tomorrow and the world found a cheap and plentiful alternative to oil, the Arab-Muslim world would still be dysfunctional, unfree and openly hostile to all the non-Islamic areas of the world. Islam was violent, predatory and expansionist from its very first beginnings. Muslims have the greatest difficulties living in harmony and peace with other peoples and as soon as their numbers reach a critical mass they cause chaos and even civil war in other

    Diaspora Jewish response: “Indeed, indeed!”

    Evin if all the Europeans vanished tomorrow, the Black world would still be dysfunctional, unfree, and openly hostile to each other and the world. Blacks have been violent, low-HDI people throughout history. Blacks have the greatest difficulties living in harmony and peace with other peoples, and as soon as their numbers reach a critical mass, they cause chaos and and ruin wherever they are found.

    Diaspora Jewish response: “rrrraaaaaaciiiiiist!”

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  130. @biz
    There is no such thing as a "Palestinian." They are Muslim Arabs. For purely propaganda purposes some people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, precisely to confuse Westerners into thinking that there is not an Arab-Jewish conflict but rather a Palestinian-Jewish one. I see that this sleight of hand worked on you.

    There is only an Arab-Jewish conflict and as Arabs they are responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Jews. Furthermore, in regard to what Nazis did, their biggest collaborators were in the Arab world, led by the Mufti Al-Husseni. So actually, Arabs are far from blameless for the Nazi holocaust.

    For purely propaganda purposes some people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, precisely to confuse Westerners into thinking that there is not an Arab-Jewish conflict but rather a Palestinian-Jewish one.

    (Oh my — Hasbara Central has the basement Zombies working tonight.)

    How are you Biz — please please give us a new lie – this is BORING!

    Peace — Art

    p.s. The Palestinians have had many rulers – only the Jews have stolen their personal property.

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  131. @Anonymous
    There can be no doubt that the most dangerous countries on earth today are Israel and the US; and with AIPAC et al controlling the latter, they should be considered one & the same

    Easy to answer this one, dangerous to all of the countries on earth but especially to themselves and their “allies”.

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  132. @DB Cooper
    Ashkenazi Jews has as much rights to 'return' to Palestine as the Filipinos (who are overwhelmingly Catholic) has the rights to the Vatican.

    The proper analogy would be to people of Irish descent returning to a Republic of Ireland that wants to, but doesn’t yet, control the entire island. We can, although I don’t want to.

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  133. @biz
    There is no such thing as a "Palestinian." They are Muslim Arabs. For purely propaganda purposes some people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, precisely to confuse Westerners into thinking that there is not an Arab-Jewish conflict but rather a Palestinian-Jewish one. I see that this sleight of hand worked on you.

    There is only an Arab-Jewish conflict and as Arabs they are responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Jews. Furthermore, in regard to what Nazis did, their biggest collaborators were in the Arab world, led by the Mufti Al-Husseni. So actually, Arabs are far from blameless for the Nazi holocaust.

    Your argument is straight propaganda. Palestinian is just the name given to the natives of the area who were not Jewish or Druze or members of the tiny minorities like Greek and Armenian orthodox. Saying there is no such thing as a Palestinian is like saying there is no such thing as a Native American since Native-American is a term created by Whites.

    The Arabs or Palestinians had no hand in the Holocaust; just because the Mufti was on good terms with the Nazis does not mean Palestinians actually assisted in the Holocaust. Some Zionists had a relationship with the Nazis ; some examples mentioned in below article.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/03/04/denying-nazi-zionist-collusion/

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  134. @Hacienda
    LOL. This is the age of infiltration, subversion. Locally and globally. As an Asian, I see it every day. In California, at UCLA, WM/AF couples, Samsung, ESL, Korean/Philippino marriages. The Muslim lower reaches do it. WASPs and Blacks are artists at this game, Asian women, too. The Jews are hated for being both good at it and making $$$. How about Asian men starting to learn this game beyond the business, trading, rhetorical level?

    A Korean who marries a Filipino is a race traitor? Which of those two ethnicities do you belong to?

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    Infiltration and subversion in the sense of Sun Tzu. I don't necessarily mean it in a derogatory way.
  135. @Anonymous

    For the record, Jews have been most instrumental in my life. In college, my three most supportive professors, Boris Putterman, Stephen Berg and Eileen Neff, were Jews, with Berg and Neff practically my surrogate parents, they nurtured me so much
     
    Jews are great as intellectual middlemen. As a result they make the best popularizers. Hell, even Einstein was a popularizer. As renowned Cambridge University mathematician E.T. Whittaker detailed:

    In 1951 (Vol. 1) and 1953 (Vol. 2), he published an extended and revised edition of his book in two volumes. The second volume contains some interesting historical remarks. For example, it contains a chapter named "The Relativity Theory of Poincaré and Lorentz", where Whittaker credited Henri Poincaré and Lorentz for developing special relativity,and especially alluded to Lorentz's 1904 paper (dated by Whittaker as 1903), Poincaré's St. Louis speech (The Principles of Mathematical Physics) of September 1904, and Poincaré's June 1905 paper.[9] He attributed to Einstein's special relativity paper only little importance, which he said "set forth the relativity theory of Poincare and Lorentz with some amplifications, and which attracted much attention”, and he credited Einstein only with being the first to publish the correct relativistic formulas for relativistic aberration and the Doppler effect. He also attributed the formula
    E=mc^{2} to Poincaré. In 1984 Clifford Truesdell wrote that Whittaker "aroused colossal antagonism by trying to set the record straight on the basis of print and record rather than recollection and folklore and professional propaganda,…
     
    But don't bring this up in polite company. Einstein denial is one degree of separation from Holocaust denial. And it's no use anyway, the narrative has already been solidly established.

    I’ve brought this up before at unz.com but I’ll repeat it: It’s no secret that Einstein, like Newton, “stood on the shoulders of giants” such as Fitzgerald and Lorentz, about whom I learned as a high school student in the early 1970s.

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  136. @greysquirrell
    What has the Armenian genocide got to do with DNA ancestry of Anatolian Turks?

    You are wrong ; the bulk of the genetic ancestry of modern day Anatolian Turks is a carry-over from pre-Turkic inhabitants. Population genetic studies pegged East Asian Y-Dna at around 8%.

    Just look at the phenotype of Turkic speaking people like the Uighurs, Kazakh , Krygz and Turkmen and compare them to Anatolian Turks. Vast majority of Turks do not have that East Asian epicanthic eyefold.

    This is what you wrote above: {….invaders did not wipe out the natives and replace them, ….}

    Then: {Do you think people in Turkey are from what is now Mongolia, just because they speak a Turkic language.}

    Implying that Turk invader did not wipe out the natives.
    You did imply that, did you not?

    So……what the Armenian Genocide has to do with it is this: contrary to what you wrote about invaders not wiping out the natives, a patently false claim and a bold faced Denialist lie, Turk invaders in fact did wipe out the indigenous peoples of Asia Minor – Armenians, Assyrians, and Pontic Greeks. About 4 million or so Christian Armenians, Christian Assyrians, and Christian Greeks wiped out by invading Muslim Turks between 1895 and 1923 alone. No reliable records how many the nomad Turk invaders wiped out before 1895.

    After you have figured out that ‘genocide’ in fact means ‘wipe out’, we can discuss DNA, eyefold, and all that.

    Let me know when you are ready.

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    No doubt there were plenty of atrocities, but for the most part, the "Turks" are the descendants of indigenous Anatolians who converted due to force, pressure, or to move up in status. If the Turks had annihilated the indigenous population, the region would've been about as sparsely populated as Mongolia.
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/12/are-turks-acculturated-armenians/
    @ LK, I fail to see how the modern Palestinians are an "ancient Levantine people," they are just a mish-mash of Arabs, Arabized Levantines and other elements. The Aramaic or Canaanite speaking natives have disappeared.
  137. @Linh Dinh
    Hi Kyle,

    I have Thomas Sowell's Ethnic America in front of me. I quote from the chapter on the Irish:


    One of the earliest and most spectacular rises of the Irish in America was in politics. Block voting of the Irish in the big cities, where they were often the largest single group, assured them political influence, evident as early as the 1830s.
     
    From the same chapter, though, there is this:

    As late as 1906, there were more Irish than Italian paupers, beggars, and inmates of almhouses, even though the Italians arrived a generation later and were generaly poorer at the turn of the century.
     
    A couple decades ago, I found a guide book to New York from around 1900, and it said there were many Chinese men married to Irish women, since both groups were socially at the bottom. Moving so many times, I no longer have this curious book to cite from, unfortunately.


    Linh

    Even in the 19th century, politics, the police force, and the priesthood were not the only avenues of social mobility for Irish-Americans. Google “Irish Big Four,” and/or “Silver Kings,” and/or “Auction Lunch Rooms.” Two Irish born and two American born Irish-American men teamed up to make vast fortunes in Nevada silver mining. The surnames of three of them were Fair, McKay, and O’ Brien; I forget the fourth.

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  138. @Hibernian
    A Korean who marries a Filipino is a race traitor? Which of those two ethnicities do you belong to?

    Infiltration and subversion in the sense of Sun Tzu. I don’t necessarily mean it in a derogatory way.

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  139. @biz
    Any Jews have more right to live there than the Muslim tribes who conquered and colonized it relatively recently.

    In any case, it doesn't matter what you want. Israel is there, and it is thriving.

    There is no such thing as Muslim tribes. The Palestinians are the indigenous people there. And about 10% of them are Christians.

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    And about 10% of them are Christians.
     
    I see you didn't follow my above links in response to the other comment but you can easily look up, in e.g. the CIA World Factbook or any other source, that Christians are less than 2% of the population of the West Bank and less than 1% of the population of Gaza. Sorry.

    At least you didn't claim that Christians are half like the other commenter. Progress lol.

    As for them being indigenous, I know you want it to be that way, but it simply isn't the case. "Palestinians" are just Arabs descended from relatively recent Muslim invaders.

  140. @Clyde
    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven. Or at least I will. Half of Israel's population comes from these Middle East derived Jews and other half from European Jews.
    Meanwhile Islam is conquering Europe via immigration, sucking up Euro-welfare system's money and converting this into explosive birthrates. For Europe's future demographics take a look at French and Swedish kindergarten classes. So who is smart and who are the chumps?
    What Lihn Dinh objects to is that the Israelis know how to keep the Muslim wolves at bay as the hapless Europeans cave in/submit/ and self destruct.


    The Expulsion of the Jews from Muslim Countries, 1920-1970: A History of Ongoing Cruelty and Discrimination
    Prof. Shmuel Trigano, November 4, 2010

    Between 1920 and 1970, 900,000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries. The 1940s were a turning point in this tragedy; of those expelled, 600,000 settled in the new state of Israel, and 300,000 in France and the United States. Today, they and their descendents form the majority of the French Jewish community and a large part of Israel’s population.
    In the countries that expelled Jews, a combination of six legal, economic, and political measures aimed at isolating Jews in society was instituted: denationalization; legal discrimination; isolation and sequestration; economic despoilment; socioeconomic discrimination; and pogroms or similar acts.
    It is the custom to say that Zionism was responsible for this development. However, the region’s anti-Semitism would have developed even without the rise of the state of Israel because of Arab-Islamic nationalism, which resulted in xenophobia.
    http://jcpa.org/article/the-expulsion-of-the-jews-from-muslim-countries-1920-1970-a-history-of-ongoing-cruelty-and-discrimination/
     

    If you want to read a less biased source than the “Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs” try this along with the usual hasbarist comments being refuted.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/09/israeli-hasbara-effort-justice-for-jewish-refugees-from-arab-countries-gets-pushback-from-baghdadi-jews/

    Mizrahi Yisrael Yeshayahu: “We are not refugees. [Some of us] came to this country before the state was born. We had messianic aspirations.”

    And read about the Lavon Affair in Egypt.

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html

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    Do you deny that 50% of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi? Your MondoWeiss link admits this.
  141. @Karl
    42 Wally> The Bible says so? LOL

    so you also reject American-Indian claims that they should be able to exclude others, and shut down usage of - their "sacred places" ?




    Is Linh Dinh cool with me tearing up Buddhist sacred places in Vietnam?

    There is no comparison to what a book called The Bible says and what American Indians claim.

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  142. @Clyde
    You are another member of the Yinon cult. As if something this obscure nobody Yinon said 30 years ago has guided Israeli policy. Your Rosetta stone for understanding Israel......hilarious!

    Cutting through your windbag post..... The equation is very simple, roughly 800,000 Arabs were displaced when Israel was born. After they attacked the Jews and lost that war. Many of them fled planning on returning after the Arab armies massacred the Jews. But the Jews won and Israel was created. Prior to this these Jews were called Palestinians and today's Jerusalem Post newspaper was called the Palestine Post.
    Before and after Israel's creation Jews were being forced to live oppressive dhimmi lives in the Arab Muslim nations. Iraq had 300,000 Jews. As revenge for the creation of Israel the Arab Muslim nations made life lots worse for Jews. 800,000 Jews were were forced out with most taken in by Israel. Most left without any money or compensation for anything they owned.

    This looks like a population exchange to me. There were other ones after WW2 such as Germans being kicked out of Russian lands they had farmed and lived in for generations.

    was it mentioning of the documented role of Jewish revolutionaries in a victory of Bolshevism in Russia, which struck the nerve and provoked your rudeness?
    You prefer to evoke the history of the Middle East in pre-Nuremberg times. Since then the west became populated by Holocaust museums and Germany was forced to pay huge compensations to Jewish survivors. The international law had changed since Nuremberg process; and if you believe that the lost Jewish property in Europe should be compensated, then Palestinians have the right to demand compensation for their lost property in Israel.
    You want the state of Israel look glorious, righteous, and powerful? – That’s fine. However, the problem with Israel-firsters is their pretense on superior morality of Israel – and this is something that the civilized world does not recognize (anymore), and for good measure. For instance, any criticism of Israel’ policies became equated, magically, with anti-Semitism (which became criminalized): https://theintercept.com/2016/02/16/greatest-threat-to-free-speech-in-the-west-criminalizing-activism-against-israeli-occupation/
    Then there is an amazing story of a book – a documentary! – that has been sequestered by all main publishing houses in the US/EU: http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
    Going back to Yinon plan, the ziocon-produced “Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm” was surprisingly reminiscent of the Yinon Plan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinon_Plan

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html

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    • Replies: @Clyde
    What is interesting about you is that you have a one track mind when it comes to imperialism and conquest. You only see what Israelis have done and can quote chapter and verse from the books you have poured over that preach this.
    Meanwhile. You are completely oblivious to Islam's 1400 year track record of blood, forcible conversion, slaughter and imperialism. They are the world's most successful imperialists. What other imperialists are still around after 1400 years? Only Muhammad's cult. Islamic imperialism and bloodletting started with Muhammad's many Jihad wars that Muhammad's immediate successors continued.
    In more recent history, take a look at the imperialist Ottoman Empire and its vast slaughter of Armenians, Greeks and other Christians.

    Islam's current most important imperialist project is taking over Europe via immigration, bleeding European welfare systems dry so that they can punch out as many Muslim babies as possible. Its the slow-motion Jihad of conquest via demographic warfare.

    My point being that any Israeli imperialism is a drop in the bucket compared to 1400 years of Muslim imperialism. So the Israelis now have the Golan Heights due to winning this in a war? Nothing compared to the lands Islam has taken during 1400 years of conquest and imperialism. Very important because the creation and existence of Israel is just another round of The Jews versus The Muslims.
    The time around the Jews have their own land and nation that they can defend militarily instead of living as oppressed and submitting dhimmis in Muslim lands.

  143. @paratrop
    If you want to read a less biased source than the "Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs" try this along with the usual hasbarist comments being refuted.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/09/israeli-hasbara-effort-justice-for-jewish-refugees-from-arab-countries-gets-pushback-from-baghdadi-jews/

    Mizrahi Yisrael Yeshayahu: “We are not refugees. [Some of us] came to this country before the state was born. We had messianic aspirations.”

    And read about the Lavon Affair in Egypt.

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/lavon.html

    Do you deny that 50% of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi? Your MondoWeiss link admits this.

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    did you quote......... mondoweiss.you being serious..........the site is a cia front gathering info on left wing nutjobs.would not quote...........Anything or believe anything written there.........
  144. @Carlton Meyer
    Most of Syria is part of the "Promised Land" described in the Bible. So it belongs to the Jews! Israel openly annexed Syria's Golan Heights many years ago and the world did nothing except refuse to recognize this. Does this explain Obama's senseless support for the overthrow of popular and moderate President Assad by arming foreign Jihadists? Note that Israel conducts airstrikes in Syria on a weekly basis, and even missile attacks. http://defense-update.com/20161208_israels-precision-rockets.html

    When "radical" ISIS reached Israel's border two years ago, these hard core Islamist didn't attempt to cross. They never fired mortars, rockets, or bullets across the fence. Israel even provided medical aid to wounded ISIS Jihadists.

    If Assad goes, so goes Syria. It would be a chaotic mess and Israel would be justified to invade to establish a huge "security zone", now cleared of Syrians killed or refugeed. Jewish settlements would appear in these occupied territories, as they did in the Golan. None of this is disclosed or discussed in the American media. But it does explain why nearly all American political leaders chant "Assad Must Go!" yet refuse to explain why.

    @If Assad goes, so goes Syria

    Stay calm, neither he will go, nor Syria. It would be rather Israel as a “Jewish state’.

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    Of course I admit that 50% of Israeli Jews are Mizrahim. I don't live in a fantasy world. The question to be asked is why they are there. Some were expelled (as a response to Zionist expulsions of Palestinians), but as Yeshayahu says, many went there without coercion - with Messianic aspirations as he says - some went there because of Israeli inducements, and some went there because of Israeli false flag operations. On the other hand, pretty well all Palestinians who left were driven out either by violence or by threats of violence.
  145. @Anonymous
    There can be no doubt that the most dangerous countries on earth today are Israel and the US; and with AIPAC et al controlling the latter, they should be considered one & the same

    Oops, sorry. The previous comment was meant for the Wiz. Unz comment software is so much smarter than I will ever be.

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  146. @Anonymous

    For the record, Jews have been most instrumental in my life. In college, my three most supportive professors, Boris Putterman, Stephen Berg and Eileen Neff, were Jews, with Berg and Neff practically my surrogate parents, they nurtured me so much
     
    Jews are great as intellectual middlemen. As a result they make the best popularizers. Hell, even Einstein was a popularizer. As renowned Cambridge University mathematician E.T. Whittaker detailed:

    In 1951 (Vol. 1) and 1953 (Vol. 2), he published an extended and revised edition of his book in two volumes. The second volume contains some interesting historical remarks. For example, it contains a chapter named "The Relativity Theory of Poincaré and Lorentz", where Whittaker credited Henri Poincaré and Lorentz for developing special relativity,and especially alluded to Lorentz's 1904 paper (dated by Whittaker as 1903), Poincaré's St. Louis speech (The Principles of Mathematical Physics) of September 1904, and Poincaré's June 1905 paper.[9] He attributed to Einstein's special relativity paper only little importance, which he said "set forth the relativity theory of Poincare and Lorentz with some amplifications, and which attracted much attention”, and he credited Einstein only with being the first to publish the correct relativistic formulas for relativistic aberration and the Doppler effect. He also attributed the formula
    E=mc^{2} to Poincaré. In 1984 Clifford Truesdell wrote that Whittaker "aroused colossal antagonism by trying to set the record straight on the basis of print and record rather than recollection and folklore and professional propaganda,…
     
    But don't bring this up in polite company. Einstein denial is one degree of separation from Holocaust denial. And it's no use anyway, the narrative has already been solidly established.

    Anonymous, Wizard of Oz, and Hibernian:

    The relativity discussed by Whittaker was Special Relativity where Einstein’s efforts were only contributory. This was not the case for the later General Relativity where Einstein’s efforts were both singular and original.

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  147. @Clyde

    The Jews are the ones who destabilized Muslim countries to make room for the greater Isreal project, and Jews are the people who are forcing western countries to accept Muslim immigrants.
     
    If you stepped back for a moment you might see how silly you sound. So Jews forced Germany and Sweden to take in all those Muslim migrants in the last two years.? Angela Merkel is Jewish?
    What is really going on is that Israel does a good job of fending off the Muslim hordes while the leftist Europeans invite them in via mass immigration invasions.
    ________
    According to the Pew Forum, the total number of Muslims in Europe in 2010 was about 44 million (6%),[32] excluding Turkey. The total number of Muslims in the European Union in 2010 was about 19 million (3.8%).[32] Approximately 9 million Turks are living in Europe, excluding the Turkish population of Turkey, which makes up the largest Muslim immigrant community in Europe.[33] However the real number of Muslims in Europe is not well-known.

    “If you stepped back for a moment you might see how silly you sound. So Jews forced Germany and Sweden to take in all those Muslim migrants in the last two years.? Angela Merkel is Jewish?
    What is really going on is that Israel does a good job of fending off the Muslim hordes while the leftist Europeans invite them in via mass immigration invasions.”

    Yes, Angela Merkel is Jewish as her mother is a Jewess and Bibi said she was one of them.
    Yes, Israeli helpers facilitated the migration of the Arabs last year in a number of ways. (Jewish) Merkel invited them in (no doubt in accordance with a larger plan) and Barbara Lerner Spectre, among others, admitted that Jews play a major role in making Europe’s white population brown, see http://www.whyileftsweden.com/?p=198
    Yes, leftist Europeans are responsible for the mass inundation and they deride anyone who resists their opinions as Nazi, populist, rightist, nationalist, etc. Merkel, the leader of the formerly conservative CDU, was (is still?) a communist functionary who does the bidding of George Soros (so do the Greens in Germany, by the way).
    Do facts sound silly? Yes, unfortunately, in Merkel Germany they do, her favourite word nowadays is “post-factual” (in the 10 yrs previously it was “alternativlos” (sound pretty much like A.H./Stalin, no?).

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    P.S.
    In the 70's Ruth Montgomery, channeling the famous American medium Ford, wrote that all the bloodshed in the ME was pointless as eventually most of Israel will end up under water due to rising sea levels. Two years ago, when in Israel, I read that over a million Israelis had a applied for a Spanish passport /dual citizenship and that other EU countries were offering the offspring of once expelled Jews the same deal. If the ME gets too hot (or wet), they've got a new haven with a high standard of living and accustomed-to social handouts waiting for them.
    , @Clyde
    Yes, Angela Merkel is Jewish as her mother is a Jewess and Bibi said she was one of them.
    Compete psychedelic delusion. If you have something to back this up please post it.

    Yes, Israeli helpers facilitated the migration of the Arabs last year in a number of ways. (Jewish) Merkel invited them in (no doubt in accordance with a larger plan) and Barbara Lerner Spectre....
    Gottcha! Barbara Lerner Spectre is calling the shots in the current Mulism migration invasion of Europe. I am aware of her and detest Lerner, but she has little influence, unless she has some souped up mind ray machine that is zapping Swedish leaders.

  148. @K.J.

    "If you stepped back for a moment you might see how silly you sound. So Jews forced Germany and Sweden to take in all those Muslim migrants in the last two years.? Angela Merkel is Jewish?
    What is really going on is that Israel does a good job of fending off the Muslim hordes while the leftist Europeans invite them in via mass immigration invasions."
     
    Yes, Angela Merkel is Jewish as her mother is a Jewess and Bibi said she was one of them.
    Yes, Israeli helpers facilitated the migration of the Arabs last year in a number of ways. (Jewish) Merkel invited them in (no doubt in accordance with a larger plan) and Barbara Lerner Spectre, among others, admitted that Jews play a major role in making Europe's white population brown, see http://www.whyileftsweden.com/?p=198
    Yes, leftist Europeans are responsible for the mass inundation and they deride anyone who resists their opinions as Nazi, populist, rightist, nationalist, etc. Merkel, the leader of the formerly conservative CDU, was (is still?) a communist functionary who does the bidding of George Soros (so do the Greens in Germany, by the way).
    Do facts sound silly? Yes, unfortunately, in Merkel Germany they do, her favourite word nowadays is "post-factual" (in the 10 yrs previously it was "alternativlos" (sound pretty much like A.H./Stalin, no?).

    P.S.
    In the 70′s Ruth Montgomery, channeling the famous American medium Ford, wrote that all the bloodshed in the ME was pointless as eventually most of Israel will end up under water due to rising sea levels. Two years ago, when in Israel, I read that over a million Israelis had a applied for a Spanish passport /dual citizenship and that other EU countries were offering the offspring of once expelled Jews the same deal. If the ME gets too hot (or wet), they’ve got a new haven with a high standard of living and accustomed-to social handouts waiting for them.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    About one million Israelis are permanent legal residents of the US. There is a big problem of cannon fodder. The orthodox, the majority of the population with the big families, are exempt from the military.

    So the burden of service falls on the secular a. There is no reform religion in Israel. It's either ultra orthodox or nothing.

    So the seculars have realized that it is they who do the fighting while the orthodox stay home and live on the child benefit.

    That's probably the reason why the Israelis and AIPAC have coerced America into fighting Israelis endless wars.

    Another problem with Israel is that nationalism is just not Jewish. They are basically travelers going from country to country for the easiest pickings. When things get bad they just move on.

    What with 1 million of the 5 or 6 million Jewish Israelis living in America and the increased birthrate of military exempt Israelis things might change although it might take a couple hundred years.

    But if America ends its military support of Israel they will find another great power. Living in a Jewish neighborhood I read the Jewish publications The big thing in the last 5 years is "how much Jews and Chinese have in common" There is a lot of support for Chinese woman Jewish man marriage. There are a lot of articles about the Persian Jew traders in China during medieval and earlier times .

    Some would say that having destroyed America the Jews plan to jump to China and colonize China as they colonized Poland and America.

    It's the seculars who serve in the army who are getting second passports and leaving. The orthodox stay because they can live comfortably off the child benefits and other welfare.

    But it won't happen in this century.
  149. @Robert Magill
    During the 1980's as house parents in a busy international youth hostel in Key West, Florida my family lived with hundreds of Israeli young men and women most of whom were Sabras (native born). What was most striking about the Israelis, compared to other groups we lived with, was the flat personal aspect and steely visage of these young men and women. Many carried, at a tender age, what has been described as the thousand-yard stare of veteran combatants. more https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2016/10/07/broken-warriors/

    You may have gotten the wrong end of the stick, Bob. The Israel Zionist elite have purposely instilled that stare.

    It is exactly the future that Israeli social planners are preparing for, by systematically indoctrinating their youth to feel threatened and victimized, superior and entitled. As the old Shoah survivors die out, they need the next generations imbued with both self-righteousness and paranoia.

    This film, made by an Israeli Jew BTW, is worth 10,000 words -

    Behind the Scenes of the ADL
    “Defamation”

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    Possibly. But one reaction is, the last time I saw the numbers, 640,000 exit visas issued for Israelis wishing to leave permanently. Many, strangely enough, for Germany!
    , @chris
    Brilliant movie, Robin !
    Thanks !
    It really is very well made. It's just not the stuff we see every day.
  150. So here we have the president of Malaysia – a large South-East Asian nation with more than 30 million people and with significant oil reserves – whining about the backwardness of Muslim countries.

    Could it be that some, er, factor other than Evil Zionist Domination accounts for the backwardness of Muslim countries?

    There is a feeling of hopelessness among the Muslim countries and their people. They feel that they can do nothing right. They believe that things can only get worse. The Muslims will forever be oppressed and dominated by the Europeans and the Jews. They will forever be poor, backward and weak.

    Perhaps Muslims who are familiar with Islamic culture are right in feeling that their nations will “forever be poor, backward and weak.”

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  151. I am going to give all this land to you and your offspring as a permanent possession

    That must obviously mean – doh! Ambiguous!

    And possible later clarification?
    “And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation.”
    Genesis 17:20

    Hmmmm… :)

    Peace.

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  152. Yahweh retaliated within 24 hours by slamming California with the Northridge Earthquake. When Clinton failed to show enough love to Netanyahu at the White House in 1998, the Monica Lewinsky scandal spattered onto newsprint that same day. When Bush fils set August 23rd, 2005 as the deadline for removing Jewish settlers from Gaza, Hurricane Katrina took aim for New Orleans. The fact that it only caused minimal damage to the Bahamas and Cuba shows how excellent of a marksman God is.

    But you forgot to mention how the first Israeli in space had his shuttle break up over Palestine, Texas.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine,_Texas

    It’s as if Yahweh sees the debacle in Palestine and doesn’t want that happening in space.

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  153. Linh Dinh:

    Your sensitive “Postcards from the End of America” and similar literary reporting were always interesting and touching.

    This kind of literary reporting is your strength. Stick to it.

    I note you spent some 2 years in Vietnam to learn more about the language, the people and the culture of the land of your birth. You also spent significant time in Italy to learn about that country’s language, culture and people.

    You do not seem to have lived in Israel, and do not appear to understand Hebrew. Nor do you mention living in any Muslim country although you derive income from writing for publications in the Muslim world.

    Semi-informed diatribes against Israel, based on talking points put to you by a Jordanian citizen, are unworthy of you.

    Readers unfamiliar with the Muslim world should know that your Jordanian (“Palestinian”) correspondent would be ostracized and quite possibly assassinated for expressing any doubt about Muslim supremacy. Many people publish anti-Israeli opinions in Tel Aviv, but one cannot publish anti-Muslim facts or opinions in Amman (or anywhere else in the Muslim world).

    Knowledge question: which is the penultimate Surah in the Qur’an in terms of generally agreed time of “revelation”? What does it say? WHY IS THE SEQUENCE IMPORTANT?

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    interesting question regarding revelation.i am curious as to what your answer is
  154. @Skeptikal
    "A person who is born to a Jewish mother is Jewish. It’s that simple."

    It's that simple for the tribal Jews.
    For everyone else it is nonsense.
    Half a person's DNA comes from each parent.
    Legally, the nationality (if that is your pleasure) is generally determined by the father's nationality.
    If the grandfather was a Czech Jew, then Kerry is 1/4 Jew.
    He should be proud of his heritage. (Of course, acknowledging Jewish forebears might have affected Kerry's eligibility for Scull and Bones at Yale.)

    I always found it pretty hard to believe that neither Albright nor Kerry "knew" that they descended from Jews. Come on. Don't these highly intelligent, well-educated people have a smidgin of curiosity? None of this would really matter nowadays if (1) the State of Israel had never been founded and (2) so many American secular Jews had not therefore been transformed into Zionists and Israel supporters and, actually, hysterics ("It could still happen here!!! They have a right to shoot those boys throwing rocks!!") by the existence and demands of the State of Israel.

    When Madeleine Albright discovered she was Jewish, some years into her appointment as secretary of state, a friend who lives in Washington mentioned that he had known her uncle for several decades and the uncle had known all along that he was Jewish.

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    It is too bad these people are not more proud of their Jewish heritage.
    Potentially, it makes them more interesting and interested---that is, if they follow up with curiosity, it gives them a route into greater understanding of themselves and their family (in the sense of both family history and family dynamic), the world around them, and history generally. This should make them better public servants and statesmen and -women.

    I don't know these people personally, so I am just speculating about their mental mindsets. But to me the "I never knew!" thing is stupid and irritating and boring. However, perhaps they are correct in assuming that the American public is not able to see nuances, so better to "Keep it simple, stupid!"
  155. Pat Robertson cites:

    I am going to give all this land to you and your offspring as a permanent possession (Genesis 13:15)

    O our God, did you not drive out those who lived in this land when your people arrived? And did you not give this land forever to the descendants of your friend Abraham? (II Chronicles 20:7)

    Abraham’s offsprings were Ishmael and Isaac. The land belongs to both the Arabs and the Jews. Ishmael and Isaac are the descendents of Abraham.

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  156. @Wizard of Oz
    To say the cold war was of no value to the nation is a very curious way of expressing something and your "something" is unclear. Obviously wars tend to reduce value but that is hardly the point when for whatever reason you are in a major contest for control of the world (even if you would see it as just precautionary and therefore defensive but your opponent appears to have a messianic vision) and there is such a failure of trust or basic agreement on principles that you can't let your guard down.

    You seem to assume a continuation of American delusions and anachronistic beliefs. The combination of countries you posit is entirely implausible, the resources of the Middle East are only peripherally relevant to US prosperity and economic power (think fracking and renewables) and there is no prospect of China not emerging as a new rival (though much more rationally concentrated on its particular interests). Regardless of China or rivalry, Russia should have been enlisted as a friend with a warm and generous embrace from 1990, a point you may well agree with.

    To say the cold war was of no value to the nation is a very curious way of expressing something and your “something” is unclear.

    I don’t know what that means, what you typed there. I believe that the fundamental choice was between war and ‘convergence’, as suggested by Sakharov, as well as some intellectuals in the West.

    I’ll note that the neutral European states that essentially embraced the path of ‘convergence’ — Finland, Scandinavia, Austria — have been most successful in their socioeconomic development.

    The combination of countries you posit is entirely implausible

    You have the right to an opinion, of course. Obviously it’s unlikely today (which is exactly my point), but then there was a period in the early 1960s, when the advances of Arab Socialism (Nasserism) were pointing to the direction of a strong Arab-Soviet alliance.

    the resources of the Middle East are only peripherally relevant to US prosperity

    That’s irrelevant to imperial strategies; US prosperity is not the issue. Like I said, it’s a resource-rich region, and therefore, if you want to be the global empire, it has to be controlled, or at least weakened and divided.

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    Thanks for the courtesy of a reasoned response.

    As to your first par. I suppose I could also be accused of using a curious way of expressing myself.... but what I was principally referring to was the idea of a war being valuable or not. As one would not see anything comparably odd or unidiomatic in e.g. "confonting the Soviet Union at every point during the Cold Wat was on the whole damaging to the US economy and to its long term geo-political interests" it raised the question why you didn't say something like that rather than what you did say which made the cold war sound like an exogenous phenomenon visited on the US which turned out to be a gift that the US shouldn't have accepted.
  157. @Seraphim
    @If Assad goes, so goes Syria

    Stay calm, neither he will go, nor Syria. It would be rather Israel as a "Jewish state'.

    Of course I admit that 50% of Israeli Jews are Mizrahim. I don’t live in a fantasy world. The question to be asked is why they are there. Some were expelled (as a response to Zionist expulsions of Palestinians), but as Yeshayahu says, many went there without coercion – with Messianic aspirations as he says – some went there because of Israeli inducements, and some went there because of Israeli false flag operations. On the other hand, pretty well all Palestinians who left were driven out either by violence or by threats of violence.

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  158. @Kyle McKenna

    I don’t think the comparison with South Africa is that meaningful, whites there were a much lower percentage of the population.
     
    Also FWIW, whites were a much, much higher percentage of the population in SA 50 and 100 years ago, before out-migration of whites and in-migration of blacks intensified. Moreover, the vastly higher birth rates of blacks accelerated the effect even more.

    So the comparison remains germane, if you take your three dimensions and add time. Where the comparison falls down is with the extreme violence which Israelis have visited upon the Palestinians. If the Apartheid authorities had slaughtered 1200-1500 Africans at a time, as Israel has done in Gaza and Lebanon, boycotts and divestments would have been the least of their worries.

    If the Apartheid authorities had slaughtered 1200-1500 Africans at a time, as Israel has done in Gaza and Lebanon

    What “if”?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_War

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War

    Looking at what a real war looks like can induce a serious case of perspective.

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    What “if”?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_War

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War

    Looking at what a real war looks like can induce a serious case of perspective.
     
    An even bigger difference is the casus belli. South Africa went to war over the possibility of hostile states on its border, whereas Israel went to war over actual cross-border attacks mounted by Arabs.
    , @Johann Ricke

    What “if”?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_War

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_Civil_War

    Looking at what a real war looks like can induce a serious case of perspective.
     
    The Sino-Vietnamese War in 1979 was even more vicious - 100K dead on both sides in just under 4 weeks.
    , @Kyle McKenna
    Indeed, a "real war" is something else entirely. As your example indicates, it has combatants on both sides, substantial casualties on both sides, and so on. Israel's slaughter campaigns against powerless civilian populations in Gaza and Lebanon most definitely do not qualify. As your own example clearly demonstrates, Israel's behavior qualifies as a war crime without there being an actual war.
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    @Linh Dinh
    Hi Kyle,

    I have Thomas Sowell's Ethnic America in front of me. I quote from the chapter on the Irish:


    One of the earliest and most spectacular rises of the Irish in America was in politics. Block voting of the Irish in the big cities, where they were often the largest single group, assured them political influence, evident as early as the 1830s.
     
    From the same chapter, though, there is this:

    As late as 1906, there were more Irish than Italian paupers, beggars, and inmates of almhouses, even though the Italians arrived a generation later and were generaly poorer at the turn of the century.
     
    A couple decades ago, I found a guide book to New York from around 1900, and it said there were many Chinese men married to Irish women, since both groups were socially at the bottom. Moving so many times, I no longer have this curious book to cite from, unfortunately.


    Linh

    A couple decades ago, I found a guide book to New York from around 1900, and it said there were many Chinese men married to Irish women, since both groups were socially at the bottom. Moving so many times, I no longer have this curious book to cite from, unfortunately.

    Today you’ll find the same pairings in places like Cambridge, MA, among the cognitive elite. Irish-American women with names Colleen Chung and Megan Wong, who met their Chinese husbands while they were both MIT post-docs.

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  160. @Anonymous
    Did you really just say that the Bible gives you the rights to that land? Lol

    Jewish genetics trace back to Europe as much as the holy land.

    And as far as right of conquest, you actually got that part right. But what was stolen can be taken back.

    I agree the Arabs have a right to try to reconquer Israel. They have failed repeatedly. They should fight honorable declared wars, then accept a reasonable peace when defeated.

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  161. @annamaria
    was it mentioning of the documented role of Jewish revolutionaries in a victory of Bolshevism in Russia, which struck the nerve and provoked your rudeness?
    You prefer to evoke the history of the Middle East in pre-Nuremberg times. Since then the west became populated by Holocaust museums and Germany was forced to pay huge compensations to Jewish survivors. The international law had changed since Nuremberg process; and if you believe that the lost Jewish property in Europe should be compensated, then Palestinians have the right to demand compensation for their lost property in Israel.
    You want the state of Israel look glorious, righteous, and powerful? - That's fine. However, the problem with Israel-firsters is their pretense on superior morality of Israel - and this is something that the civilized world does not recognize (anymore), and for good measure. For instance, any criticism of Israel' policies became equated, magically, with anti-Semitism (which became criminalized): https://theintercept.com/2016/02/16/greatest-threat-to-free-speech-in-the-west-criminalizing-activism-against-israeli-occupation/
    Then there is an amazing story of a book - a documentary! - that has been sequestered by all main publishing houses in the US/EU: http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
    Going back to Yinon plan, the ziocon-produced "Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" was surprisingly reminiscent of the Yinon Plan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinon_Plan
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html

    What is interesting about you is that you have a one track mind when it comes to imperialism and conquest. You only see what Israelis have done and can quote chapter and verse from the books you have poured over that preach this.
    Meanwhile. You are completely oblivious to Islam’s 1400 year track record of blood, forcible conversion, slaughter and imperialism. They are the world’s most successful imperialists. What other imperialists are still around after 1400 years? Only Muhammad’s cult. Islamic imperialism and bloodletting started with Muhammad’s many Jihad wars that Muhammad’s immediate successors continued.
    In more recent history, take a look at the imperialist Ottoman Empire and its vast slaughter of Armenians, Greeks and other Christians.

    Islam’s current most important imperialist project is taking over Europe via immigration, bleeding European welfare systems dry so that they can punch out as many Muslim babies as possible. Its the slow-motion Jihad of conquest via demographic warfare.

    My point being that any Israeli imperialism is a drop in the bucket compared to 1400 years of Muslim imperialism. So the Israelis now have the Golan Heights due to winning this in a war? Nothing compared to the lands Islam has taken during 1400 years of conquest and imperialism. Very important because the creation and existence of Israel is just another round of The Jews versus The Muslims.
    The time around the Jews have their own land and nation that they can defend militarily instead of living as oppressed and submitting dhimmis in Muslim lands.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "You are completely oblivious to Islam’s 1400 year track record of blood, forcible conversion, slaughter and imperialism. They are the world’s most successful imperialists."

    No, that would be the Europeans who carved out individually niches around the globe.

    "What other imperialists are still around after 1400 years?"

    The United States and China.

    "In more recent history, take a look at the imperialist Ottoman Empire and its vast slaughter of Armenians, Greeks and other Christians."

    "Islam’s current most important imperialist project is taking over Europe via immigration, bleeding European welfare systems dry so that they can punch out as many Muslim babies as possible. Its the slow-motion Jihad of conquest via demographic warfare."

    I would dare say that they are following in the footsteps of their Christian counterparts. After all, white people set the standard.
    , @Skeptikal
    I wonder whether a basic historical/anthropological point is being overlooked in the whole Muslims vs. West discussion.

    I have read that what drove the so-called "hordes" from east to west was "rumors" (not the appropriate word but I can't think of a better) of a land to the west that was green and there was plentiful rainfall. Central Asian nomadic tribes either tried to get into China (hence the Great Wall), and some of them succeeded (the Yuan Empire), or traveled west in a multi-generational movement in search of nicer lands, more grass, etc. (Ghengis Khan and his descendants), who also succeeded (cf. the Golden Horde). The existence of more rainfall and grass in the western peninsula hanging off the Eurasian land mass would surely have been a constant beckoning feature whenever there was any population pressure among the nomads.

    Perhaps "Muslim" is one of those terms that actually is kind of useless . . .
    Can the current migrations be viewed as, on some level, a continuation of this constant thrust west of Central Asian peoples to richer and more hospitable lands? In this context the expansion of the Russian Imperium eastward would have been anomalous or, actually, based on more complex survival issues than merely having enough food. And might have prevented the development of larger Central Asian demographic and political challengers to the West.

    Just speculating . . . Back to work . . .
    , @annamaria
    "...you have a one track mind...you only see what Israelis have done"
    This is a comment section on an article titled "The end of Israel." Moreover, it is not the state of Israel and its activities that worry me but the power of Israel-firsters in the US, whose influence on the US policies has been bloody destructive on a massive scale.

    The Muslims have been generally more tolerant to the Jews than the Christians (see, for instance, the status of Jews in an empire of Suleiman the Magnificent).
    In more recent times, the convergence of interests has brought oilmen and Zionists together in the Middle East. We witness an interesting configuration of relationships when the US and Israel are allied with fanatical Islam (Qatari, Saudi Arabia) against secular Arab population (Iraq, Syria, Libya) with the devastating consequences for the secular states. The same formula could be observed on a micro scale in Ukraine, where neo-Nazis joined jihadists in a fight against separatists; moreover, the most vicious pro-Kiev battalions have been privately financed by certain wealthy Jews prominent in Jewish community of Ukraine (see Kolomojsky).
    It is factually correct to say that the US policies in the Middle East and Europe have been heavily influenced by neoconservatives, majority of them ziocons. If the US/Israel were truly concerned with the rise of fanatical Islam, then it would be only logical that US/Israel unite their efforts with Russian Federation against jihadists and for support of secular Arab states, particularly because Russia has demonstrated both a successful cooperation with secular Muslims (see, for instance, that a short Russian occupation of Afghanistan produced the first ever cohort of the university-trained Iraqi women), and a successful struggle with fanatical Islam (see Chechen and Syria). But there is no such west-east cooperation against religious fanatics: Currently, Russian Federation (mostly white and Christian, though rather secular in character) is under onslaught of russophobic policies (see Kagans’ clan and such).
    As for the inflow of Muslims to Europe, this is the direct result of the US/NATO interventions in the Middle East. These interventions have squeezed the native populations of the ruined states, as well as opened a gate for the waves of low IQ sub-Saharan Africans to Europe (see Qaddafi warning re African migrants’ invasion to Europe). The Project for New American Century was fundamentally a ziocon project.

  162. I hope you are pleased with yourself, LD.

    All this time and effort put into finding someone with a great grandmother with a funny sounding name.

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  163. @Clyde
    Do you deny that 50% of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi? Your MondoWeiss link admits this.

    did you quote……… mondoweiss.you being serious……….the site is a cia front gathering info on left wing nutjobs.would not quote………..Anything or believe anything written there………

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    • Replies: @Clyde
    Please...mondoweiss is a skunk but paratrop linked to it. I scanned what it said/which was not much/ then threw back to paratrop a quote from it. As simple as this.
    Quick question for you in this new year of 2017. What is the word's most successful and enduring imperialism?
  164. You are sort of entertaining when you do the pseudo-Bukowski thing… the stuff about how drunks and failures are the real people.

    Stick with that.

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  165. @Eagle Eye
    Linh Dinh:

    Your sensitive "Postcards from the End of America" and similar literary reporting were always interesting and touching.

    This kind of literary reporting is your strength. Stick to it.

    I note you spent some 2 years in Vietnam to learn more about the language, the people and the culture of the land of your birth. You also spent significant time in Italy to learn about that country's language, culture and people.

    You do not seem to have lived in Israel, and do not appear to understand Hebrew. Nor do you mention living in any Muslim country although you derive income from writing for publications in the Muslim world.

    Semi-informed diatribes against Israel, based on talking points put to you by a Jordanian citizen, are unworthy of you.

    Readers unfamiliar with the Muslim world should know that your Jordanian ("Palestinian") correspondent would be ostracized and quite possibly assassinated for expressing any doubt about Muslim supremacy. Many people publish anti-Israeli opinions in Tel Aviv, but one cannot publish anti-Muslim facts or opinions in Amman (or anywhere else in the Muslim world).

    Knowledge question: which is the penultimate Surah in the Qur'an in terms of generally agreed time of "revelation"? What does it say? WHY IS THE SEQUENCE IMPORTANT?

    interesting question regarding revelation.i am curious as to what your answer is

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    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    Surah 9 is regarded as penultimate, hence SUPERSEDES all others (especially the peaceful verses) with its exhortations to murder and demean infidels. The last surah is very short.

    The trick is that in printed Qur'ans surahs are arranged by length, NOT date.

    Questioning the doctrine of the Qur'an is treated as apostasy and punished by assassination.
  166. @RobinG
    You may have gotten the wrong end of the stick, Bob. The Israel Zionist elite have purposely instilled that stare.

    It is exactly the future that Israeli social planners are preparing for, by systematically indoctrinating their youth to feel threatened and victimized, superior and entitled. As the old Shoah survivors die out, they need the next generations imbued with both self-righteousness and paranoia.

    This film, made by an Israeli Jew BTW, is worth 10,000 words -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-1KgbAA_Mw
    Behind the Scenes of the ADL
    "Defamation"

    Possibly. But one reaction is, the last time I saw the numbers, 640,000 exit visas issued for Israelis wishing to leave permanently. Many, strangely enough, for Germany!

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    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    They probably stand a pretty good chance of getting German citizenship (if their fathers or grandfathers were German-born; forget it if the mother was German), which would be a huge advantage for them, as they could then live and work anywhere in the EU---plus Israel, of course.
  167. true story

    one night i was driving home between cities,out in the countryside.it was a dark night.i pulled over to take a piss and while i was standing there i saw all these white coloured things strewn in the grass around me.i zipped up and picked one up.it was paper but i could not see what was written on it.got back into the car and had a better look.it was a page from the bible,book of job,around verse 22.someone had thrown it out of a car window while driving down the highway.i mean what are the odds.200 km long highway, 11 pm at night, pitch black,not many cars on the road,pull over walk around to passenger side and there it is.
    anyway thats when i started to believe.
    in the last few years i have had more such happenings,some about israel,around when obama visited,the sandstorms,some about 7 falling stars,the fire in brooklyn.
    it is all starting to move quicker now towards a point.i can feel it,can any of you.

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  168. @mcohen
    did you quote......... mondoweiss.you being serious..........the site is a cia front gathering info on left wing nutjobs.would not quote...........Anything or believe anything written there.........

    Please…mondoweiss is a skunk but paratrop linked to it. I scanned what it said/which was not much/ then threw back to paratrop a quote from it. As simple as this.
    Quick question for you in this new year of 2017. What is the word’s most successful and enduring imperialism?

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    • Replies: @mcohen
    Imperial English leather followed by old spice.
    , @paratrop
    Ah - the mcohen of mondoweiss fame. If it is a skunk mcohen why do you post there so much?

    And I answered your post, Clyde.

  169. @K.J.

    "If you stepped back for a moment you might see how silly you sound. So Jews forced Germany and Sweden to take in all those Muslim migrants in the last two years.? Angela Merkel is Jewish?
    What is really going on is that Israel does a good job of fending off the Muslim hordes while the leftist Europeans invite them in via mass immigration invasions."
     
    Yes, Angela Merkel is Jewish as her mother is a Jewess and Bibi said she was one of them.
    Yes, Israeli helpers facilitated the migration of the Arabs last year in a number of ways. (Jewish) Merkel invited them in (no doubt in accordance with a larger plan) and Barbara Lerner Spectre, among others, admitted that Jews play a major role in making Europe's white population brown, see http://www.whyileftsweden.com/?p=198
    Yes, leftist Europeans are responsible for the mass inundation and they deride anyone who resists their opinions as Nazi, populist, rightist, nationalist, etc. Merkel, the leader of the formerly conservative CDU, was (is still?) a communist functionary who does the bidding of George Soros (so do the Greens in Germany, by the way).
    Do facts sound silly? Yes, unfortunately, in Merkel Germany they do, her favourite word nowadays is "post-factual" (in the 10 yrs previously it was "alternativlos" (sound pretty much like A.H./Stalin, no?).

    Yes, Angela Merkel is Jewish as her mother is a Jewess and Bibi said she was one of them.
    Compete psychedelic delusion. If you have something to back this up please post it.

    Yes, Israeli helpers facilitated the migration of the Arabs last year in a number of ways. (Jewish) Merkel invited them in (no doubt in accordance with a larger plan) and Barbara Lerner Spectre….
    Gottcha! Barbara Lerner Spectre is calling the shots in the current Mulism migration invasion of Europe. I am aware of her and detest Lerner, but she has little influence, unless she has some souped up mind ray machine that is zapping Swedish leaders.

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    You are responding to some deliberate hasbarat disinformation, designed to derail the discussion. It's a common tactic, and not always so obvious.
  170. @saez
    When Madeleine Albright discovered she was Jewish, some years into her appointment as secretary of state, a friend who lives in Washington mentioned that he had known her uncle for several decades and the uncle had known all along that he was Jewish.

    It is too bad these people are not more proud of their Jewish heritage.
    Potentially, it makes them more interesting and interested—that is, if they follow up with curiosity, it gives them a route into greater understanding of themselves and their family (in the sense of both family history and family dynamic), the world around them, and history generally. This should make them better public servants and statesmen and -women.

    I don’t know these people personally, so I am just speculating about their mental mindsets. But to me the “I never knew!” thing is stupid and irritating and boring. However, perhaps they are correct in assuming that the American public is not able to see nuances, so better to “Keep it simple, stupid!”

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  171. @Mao Cheng Ji

    To say the cold war was of no value to the nation is a very curious way of expressing something and your “something” is unclear.
     
    I don't know what that means, what you typed there. I believe that the fundamental choice was between war and 'convergence', as suggested by Sakharov, as well as some intellectuals in the West.

    I'll note that the neutral European states that essentially embraced the path of 'convergence' -- Finland, Scandinavia, Austria -- have been most successful in their socioeconomic development.


    The combination of countries you posit is entirely implausible
     
    You have the right to an opinion, of course. Obviously it's unlikely today (which is exactly my point), but then there was a period in the early 1960s, when the advances of Arab Socialism (Nasserism) were pointing to the direction of a strong Arab-Soviet alliance.

    the resources of the Middle East are only peripherally relevant to US prosperity
     
    That's irrelevant to imperial strategies; US prosperity is not the issue. Like I said, it's a resource-rich region, and therefore, if you want to be the global empire, it has to be controlled, or at least weakened and divided.

    Thanks for the courtesy of a reasoned response.

    As to your first par. I suppose I could also be accused of using a curious way of expressing myself…. but what I was principally referring to was the idea of a war being valuable or not. As one would not see anything comparably odd or unidiomatic in e.g. “confonting the Soviet Union at every point during the Cold Wat was on the whole damaging to the US economy and to its long term geo-political interests” it raised the question why you didn’t say something like that rather than what you did say which made the cold war sound like an exogenous phenomenon visited on the US which turned out to be a gift that the US shouldn’t have accepted.

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    Well, the 'cold war' was really an epoch, a strategic long-term choice, with a whole bunch of little (and not so little) wars resulting from it. I saw Oliver Stone linking it to the 1948 presidential election, to Henry Wallace being defeated by the establishment, getting (come to think of it) the treatment Trump received in the 2016 campaign... But of course alternative history doesn't exist, and I'm really a determinist myself...

    Anyway, the point I was making (and I thought it was clear) is that the US actions need to be analyzed as actions of a global empire. Israel is not important to the US (the nation) at all, but it is very important to the global empire ruled from Washington, DC. And that's the most productive way to analyze American foreign policy...
  172. @biz
    There is no such thing as a "Palestinian." They are Muslim Arabs. For purely propaganda purposes some people devised the Palestinian identity in the 1970s, precisely to confuse Westerners into thinking that there is not an Arab-Jewish conflict but rather a Palestinian-Jewish one. I see that this sleight of hand worked on you.

    There is only an Arab-Jewish conflict and as Arabs they are responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Jews. Furthermore, in regard to what Nazis did, their biggest collaborators were in the Arab world, led by the Mufti Al-Husseni. So actually, Arabs are far from blameless for the Nazi holocaust.

    “There is no such thing as a “Palestinian.” ”

    How exceedingly odd!
    A woman, German Jew, resident in Palestine from 1933, who traveled in 1936 from Palestine to Britain to study, was described as “Palestinian” on her official documents.

    So someone in both Palestine and Britain thought that there was such a thing as Palestine.
    In fact, someone thought that there was such a thing as Palestine qua political entity, not race or ethnicity.
    All the people living in Palestine, also Jews, were Palestinians.
    That includes local Jews and the recent migrants from Europe.
    But the European Jews wanted the whole place for themselves and launched a war of ethnic cleansing to get it. Where previously they had just bought up the place piece by piece, using to a great extent Rothschild funds. But that was taking too long, and elicited the great ire of the original locals, who couldn’t compete moneywise with the rich newcomers.

    REally, the guests from hell!!

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    I had a conversation with an Israeli who had been living in Australia for 25 years and was my Uber driver. When I suggested that of course there was a Palestinian people, created by Israel after 1948 he agreed but said the date should be 1967. He then added that he was actually a Palestinian, his parents having been born and grown up under the Mandate.
  173. Kerry should explain to the Israelis and Arabs his “ultimate wisdom of a borderless world”: problem solved.

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  174. While there are plenty of grounds to criticize Israel, I find many ultimately falter when they revert to seeing Israel’s founding and the displacement of the Palestinians in almost metaphysical terms as uniquely unjust.

    The reference to Malaysia’s Mahathir is telling here given his own argument that the Malay Muslims who migrated to the region hundreds of years ago have more claim to the land than the indigenous groups living there, e.g.:http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/05/mahathir-malay-claims-to-country-stronger-than-oran-asli/

    Like it or not, Jews have a long-standing connection to Palestine, much more so than Malay Muslims to Malaysia.

    To paraphrase Charlton Heston in Planet of the Apes, some colonialists are more colonialist than others.

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  175. @Wizard of Oz
    Thanks for the courtesy of a reasoned response.

    As to your first par. I suppose I could also be accused of using a curious way of expressing myself.... but what I was principally referring to was the idea of a war being valuable or not. As one would not see anything comparably odd or unidiomatic in e.g. "confonting the Soviet Union at every point during the Cold Wat was on the whole damaging to the US economy and to its long term geo-political interests" it raised the question why you didn't say something like that rather than what you did say which made the cold war sound like an exogenous phenomenon visited on the US which turned out to be a gift that the US shouldn't have accepted.

    Well, the ‘cold war’ was really an epoch, a strategic long-term choice, with a whole bunch of little (and not so little) wars resulting from it. I saw Oliver Stone linking it to the 1948 presidential election, to Henry Wallace being defeated by the establishment, getting (come to think of it) the treatment Trump received in the 2016 campaign… But of course alternative history doesn’t exist, and I’m really a determinist myself…

    Anyway, the point I was making (and I thought it was clear) is that the US actions need to be analyzed as actions of a global empire. Israel is not important to the US (the nation) at all, but it is very important to the global empire ruled from Washington, DC. And that’s the most productive way to analyze American foreign policy…

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    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II

    US actions need to be analyzed as actions of a global empire. Israel is not important to the US (the nation) at all, but it is very important to the global empire ruled from Washington, DC. And that’s the most productive way to analyze American foreign policy…
     
    this is an excellent point.
    , @Art

    Anyway, the point I was making (and I thought it was clear) is that the US actions need to be analyzed as actions of a global empire. Israel is not important to the US (the nation) at all, but it is very important to the global empire ruled from Washington, DC. And that’s the most productive way to analyze American foreign policy…
     
    The money that feeds this global empire comes from Jews - period - end of story.

    The Rothschild central banking cartels are doing their same old deeds, just like in past centuries, praying on all sides - only on a global scale with many more billions of people under their thumb.

    Peace --- Art

  176. @greysquirrell
    What has the Armenian genocide got to do with DNA ancestry of Anatolian Turks?

    You are wrong ; the bulk of the genetic ancestry of modern day Anatolian Turks is a carry-over from pre-Turkic inhabitants. Population genetic studies pegged East Asian Y-Dna at around 8%.

    Just look at the phenotype of Turkic speaking people like the Uighurs, Kazakh , Krygz and Turkmen and compare them to Anatolian Turks. Vast majority of Turks do not have that East Asian epicanthic eyefold.

    greysquirrell,

    Avery knows all that, he is just a sad Armenian LIAR who hates Turks and consistently lies about them.
    Avery thinks that hysterically screaming 2 + 2 =5 on a daily basis, will eventually convince people, at least ignorant people, that the Turks from Turkey are ‘nomadic uigher nomadic savages’ from China or wherever.

    Pathetic really.

    You are also correct about the Palestinians. The Arab invaders never expelled them( nor did the Romans expell the Jews, another zio myth), only mixed with the indigenous people to an extent.

    The Palestinians are an ancient Levantine people whose core origins go back to pre-historic times.

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  177. @L.K
    greysquirrell,

    Avery knows all that, he is just a sad Armenian LIAR who hates Turks and consistently lies about them.
    Avery thinks that hysterically screaming 2 + 2 =5 on a daily basis, will eventually convince people, at least ignorant people, that the Turks from Turkey are 'nomadic uigher nomadic savages' from China or wherever.

    Pathetic really.

    You are also correct about the Palestinians. The Arab invaders never expelled them( nor did the Romans expell the Jews, another zio myth), only mixed with the indigenous people to an extent.

    The Palestinians are an ancient Levantine people whose core origins go back to pre-historic times.

    You still around you noe-Nazi mongrel POS?

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    Always around to refute the pathetic LIES by Pinocchios such as yourself.
  178. @Sherman
    "The end of Israel is within sight"

    Ha!

    I remember when I was in college in the late 1980s a lefty professor told my class that Israel had only about twenty years left. He claimed Israel would inevitably collapse under the weight of a booming Arab population within its borders and technological advances of Arab militaries.

    Today Israel is stronger and wealthier than ever. For all its "apartheid" status much of the world is lining up to do business with it. Even Arab and Muslim countries want to trade with it.

    (Have you read about Azerbaijan and Israel lately?).

    Israel even has oil and gas!

    Israel's conflict with the Palestinians is just an annoying sideshow to the greater dysfunctions in the Mideast. Even the Arabs don't really care about the Palestinians any more.

    That said, I believe Israel would be better off if it stopped building these silly settlements and even dismantled many of them. But I don't think this would make any difference. The Palestinians will inevitably reject any Israel peace overtures (as they have done repeatedly).

    Ah yes, Israeli peace overtures. Last time was when the Israelis bombed Gaza.

    Pesky Palestinians just don’t get it, do they?

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  179. @DB Cooper
    There is no such thing as Muslim tribes. The Palestinians are the indigenous people there. And about 10% of them are Christians.

    And about 10% of them are Christians.

    I see you didn’t follow my above links in response to the other comment but you can easily look up, in e.g. the CIA World Factbook or any other source, that Christians are less than 2% of the population of the West Bank and less than 1% of the population of Gaza. Sorry.

    At least you didn’t claim that Christians are half like the other commenter. Progress lol.

    As for them being indigenous, I know you want it to be that way, but it simply isn’t the case. “Palestinians” are just Arabs descended from relatively recent Muslim invaders.

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    Hey biz,

    “Palestinians” are just Arabs descended from relatively recent Muslim invaders.
     
    Yeah - I guess 1400+ years is relatively recent when you take the age of the Earth into account.

    As for them being indigenous, I know you want it to be that way, but it simply isn’t the case.
     
    Yes, yes, please explain to us how Ethiopian Jews are indigenous.

    Peace.
    , @Druid
    Actually, Christians were a much higher percentage until Ziofascism. They emigrated and said it was because of Ziofascist practices in Israel.
  180. @Clyde
    What is interesting about you is that you have a one track mind when it comes to imperialism and conquest. You only see what Israelis have done and can quote chapter and verse from the books you have poured over that preach this.
    Meanwhile. You are completely oblivious to Islam's 1400 year track record of blood, forcible conversion, slaughter and imperialism. They are the world's most successful imperialists. What other imperialists are still around after 1400 years? Only Muhammad's cult. Islamic imperialism and bloodletting started with Muhammad's many Jihad wars that Muhammad's immediate successors continued.
    In more recent history, take a look at the imperialist Ottoman Empire and its vast slaughter of Armenians, Greeks and other Christians.

    Islam's current most important imperialist project is taking over Europe via immigration, bleeding European welfare systems dry so that they can punch out as many Muslim babies as possible. Its the slow-motion Jihad of conquest via demographic warfare.

    My point being that any Israeli imperialism is a drop in the bucket compared to 1400 years of Muslim imperialism. So the Israelis now have the Golan Heights due to winning this in a war? Nothing compared to the lands Islam has taken during 1400 years of conquest and imperialism. Very important because the creation and existence of Israel is just another round of The Jews versus The Muslims.
    The time around the Jews have their own land and nation that they can defend militarily instead of living as oppressed and submitting dhimmis in Muslim lands.

    “You are completely oblivious to Islam’s 1400 year track record of blood, forcible conversion, slaughter and imperialism. They are the world’s most successful imperialists.”

    No, that would be the Europeans who carved out individually niches around the globe.

    “What other imperialists are still around after 1400 years?”

    The United States and China.

    “In more recent history, take a look at the imperialist Ottoman Empire and its vast slaughter of Armenians, Greeks and other Christians.”

    “Islam’s current most important imperialist project is taking over Europe via immigration, bleeding European welfare systems dry so that they can punch out as many Muslim babies as possible. Its the slow-motion Jihad of conquest via demographic warfare.”

    I would dare say that they are following in the footsteps of their Christian counterparts. After all, white people set the standard.

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    • Replies: @Feargus
    It's a dog eat dog world out there between the world's great culture-collectivity-organisms. In this jungle, to lack collective guilt about imperialism is a trait of strength generally. Islam currently has the upper hand over Europe in this regard but it hasn't always been this way, and maybe not in the future either. The question therefore becomes, will European self-guilt be a permanent character trait or is it just a temporary fancy? The first option is what is popularly called "cuckoldry" and suicide while the second option leads to a renewal of the furor teutonicus. Neither option smacks of moderation but then again Western man is notable for the relentless passion of his endeavors, in whatever he decides to undertake.
    , @Talha
    Hey Corvinus,

    I don't know if you've ever come across this map; it is a geographical mapping of all battles in recorded history - an amazing and useful endeavor. See any patterns, any clusters perhaps?
    http://battles.nodegoat.net/viewer.p/23/385

    Which is why I don't take these jokers too seriously, neither should you. If Mawlana Clyde isn't being paid for his work here, he should be.

    Peace.

    P.S. Actually on second thought, most of his stuff is completely unoriginal copy-paste from his previous posts - so no soup for him!
  181. @Svigor

    Unchecked, it will gobble up even more of its neighbors’ territories.
     
    I tend to agree. If able to keep their birthrate high, I think Israeli Jewry will eventually start colonizing the surrounding territory (Eretz Israel), in the name of lebensraum (though I doubt they'll use that word). They'll expand their settlement-building project into western Jordan (east bank), southern Lebanon, southwestern Syria, and Egypt (Sinai). It will all be done as a "private" enterprise by "individual" Jews, though they will use their military to thwart any attempted move against the settlements by militaries in the countries targeted. They will use Arab cutouts to buy, and regime-change against any attempt to nationalize the land. PMCs, private militias, etc., will handle day-to-day security. It will be done one country at a time, so as to avoid biting off too much to chew. When local Arabs inevitably turn to terrorism and low-intensity conflict, the Jewish locals will put the Apartheid boot down in their areas, as a "defensive" measure. The Zionist PR machine will spin it all as a story of "Jews persecuted by Muslims." This will continue as long as their birthrate is high, and no interested party has nukes.

    This is all assuming the Israelis don't come up with some innovative way to turn the Negev into fertile land (say, truly cost-efficient solar power), which is probably at least as likely. In that case, they'll develop the Negev first, but they'll have a huge problem on their hands, because the Arabs will do the same with their deserts, and churn out a couple billion kids.

    If Assad goes, so goes Syria. It would be a chaotic mess and Israel would be justified to invade to establish a huge “security zone”, now cleared of Syrians killed or refugeed. Jewish settlements would appear in these occupied territories, as they did in the Golan. None of this is disclosed or discussed in the American media. But it does explain why nearly all American political leaders chant “Assad Must Go!” yet refuse to explain why.
     
    Indeed, this would seem plausible, and to mesh well with the plan outlined above.

    The very next day, Israel announced it would build 3,000 more homes for Jews in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem. Screw the world, responded Israel.
     
    It is kind of interesting how Israeli Jews have openly framed their settlement-building as an assault on the world, "revenge" against their enemies, etc. It seems to be their response to every offense. Which sort of makes it obvious that their settlements are offensive (as Boobie is fond of saying, "Jews don't turn the other cheek")...

    The Muslims will forever be oppressed and dominated by the Europeans and the Jews. They will forever be poor, backward and weak.
     
    Well, they might consider sorting out their rulers, who keep fighting amongst themselves.

    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven.
     
    Well, no. The Palestinians should not have to pay for what their neighbors did, any more than they should have to pay for what the Europeans did.

    You just say this. Both the Bible, genetic history, and the right of conquest that established the borders of nearly every country all say the West Bank is rightfully Israel’s.

    The Golan Heights were taken after Syria twice invaded Israel.
     
    Scratch a moderate rightist, find a radical Zionist?

    The Bible isn't relevant to the rest of the world, or to Israel's neighbors. In fact, its use as a factor in American foreign policy is probably a violation to the Holy Separation of Church and State, as practiced by modern diaspora Jewry, and the American left.

    Genetic history? Like, Jews were far less than 2% of America's founding, so their population should be pared (way) back, to be in line with genetic history? That kind of genetic history?

    The right of conquest isn't much of a justification. It works for Zionists, but few else. And it's ye classic double-edged sword.

    US geopolitical strategists view it as an asset. Huge military base in the middle of a super-important region. An extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines.
     
    Not really. South Africa was a huge military base in an important region, an extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines, and the American left (led by Jews, as always) threw them under the bus. They were much more loyal and cooperative than the Israelis.

    Strategic issues are secondary.

    During the 1980′s as house parents in a busy international youth hostel in Key West, Florida my family lived with hundreds of Israeli young men and women most of whom were Sabras (native born). What was most striking about the Israelis, compared to other groups we lived with, was the flat personal aspect and steely visage of these young men and women. Many carried, at a tender age, what has been described as the thousand-yard stare of veteran combatants.
     
    Sort of like the Wehrmacht, or the SS.

    linh

    i have been enjoying your postcard series because they describe real people.so why write this article.did you do your research.have you been to israel.
    however when i got to the end and read the last sentence i unbuckled a chuckle.
    amen indeed
     
    Never speak of anywhere you've never been? Where does this obtain? Certainly not among Zionists, who have an awful lot to say about Arab populations they've never lived among. Agnostic on the Moon landings, are we? Get your Zionist friends in line, before you try to police us.

    “Another apartheid country, South Africa, had to remake itself…”

    And yet Americans that separated the indigenous peoples here putting them on their so called ‘reservations’ see no irony in the fact that they themselves live in settlements on occupied land. Oh yes, you’ll now hear that we ‘bought’ or ‘traded’ for some of the land and that’s true…well to the extent that we dealt with the ones we didn’t murder as we killed our way across the land. On the bright side, we now allow them to have casinos and the President just took millions of acres of Nevada and Utah into federal custody to preserve, in part, ‘sacred’ sites of our own ‘palestinians’. Yay America….boo Israel.
     
    I'd be willing to bet that at least 90% of diaspora Jews are on "team Amerind" when it comes to the American colonial debate. Just like they're on "team black minority" vs. the white majority. But they suddenly switch values 180 degrees, when it comes to "team Palestians" and the Israeli colonial debate. They've got no room to talk about the irony. Just listen to you play the Zionist fiddle for the oppressed Indian natives, FFS.

    The preservation of that independence in the face of four wars of genocidal intent started by the Arabs
     
    Frequent Zionist lie, made no more true by their endless repetition.

    Today Israel, in spite of being nine miles wide, without natural resources, and surrounded by barbaric failed states, is a modern democracy with a human capital based economy. It has managed against all odds to not only preserve but thrive, including absorbing the Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Muslim countries which now form the majority of its population.
     
    Israel is an Apartheid state that continually makes a ruin of Jewry's reputation. Shows all their leftist posturing (in the diaspora, of course) for the lie it is.

    “They’ll expand their settlement-building project into western Jordan (east bank), southern Lebanon, southwestern Syria, and Egypt (Sinai). It will all be done as a “private” enterprise by “individual” Jews,” ”

    That is exactly how they got started in Palestine. Private land purchases that gradually started to “link up.”
    And it is more or less how the Americans did it: Plant yourself in a territory and then demand protection from the U.S. Army.
    If I were a country abutting any “border” of Israel or anywhere in the Eretz Israel neighborhood, I would pass some very clear laws concerning land purchases by foreigners and restricting locations and densities. E.g., distance from the “border,” etc. Or even specify Israelis or even Jews. Because the latter have a pattern and it is not discriminatory to point out this pattern and the dangers of obliviously letting private land purchases go forward.

    In fact, even passing such laws or publishing an intent to do so might flush out some land-grabbing Zionists by causing a rush on land purchases in Eretz Israel territory.

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  182. @SolontoCroesus

    you’d have to conclude that a Moslem state never really becomes all that civilized.
     
    What a fascinating thing to say:

    A "Jewish state" has never, not once in the entire history of the Jewish-Yiddish-Hebrew-Yehud people, come into being as its own civilized state, under its own steam. Jews couldn't even build their own temple, but needed help from Persians, the Romans

    "The foundation of the second Temple was laid in the second month of the second year after the Return, but no further headway was made for fifteen or sixteen years, owing to the active interference and positive misrepresentations to the Persian kings by the Samaritans to whom the Jews had denied a share in the work of rebuilding the House of the Lord. Meantime, the Jews themselves lost much of their interest in the reconstruction of the Temple; and it is only in 520 B.C. that the Prophets Aggæus and Zacharias succeeded in rousing them from their supineness. Pecuniary help came too from the Jewish community in Babylon, and also, a little later, from the Persian king. Thus encouraged, they made rapid progress and on 3 March, 515 B.C., the new Temple was solemnly dedicated. The Jewish leaders next started on the rebuilding of the walls of Jerusalem, and here again met with the hostility of the Samaritans, who complained at the Court of Persia ."

    STC,

    I’ll take that as concurrence with my comments about Moslem states. ;-P

    PLT,

    The Grate Deign

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  183. @Robert Magill
    Possibly. But one reaction is, the last time I saw the numbers, 640,000 exit visas issued for Israelis wishing to leave permanently. Many, strangely enough, for Germany!

    They probably stand a pretty good chance of getting German citizenship (if their fathers or grandfathers were German-born; forget it if the mother was German), which would be a huge advantage for them, as they could then live and work anywhere in the EU—plus Israel, of course.

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    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    I think Jews have proven that they need a homeland of their own, and should not be allowed to wander wherever they please. I also think Germany, the U.S. and just about every other nation where Jews reside in large enough numbers to be a problem would be better off without them. They've made their bed with Israel and should be forced to stay or move there. My problem with Israel is that it is a parasite nation. If they'd just fight their own wars (physical, diplomatic, propaganda...), pay their own way and stay out of other nations' internal affairs, I wouldn't care what they do in Palestine....I also wouldn't care if they were driven into the sea, and wouldn't lift a finger to help them if it happened.
  184. @Mao Cheng Ji

    Fellow Jews put pressure on them to do Jew political and social business — end of story.
     
    I'm sure you have a point there, but I feel that you're exaggerating it.

    First of all, you don't even know whether people you're talking about here are 'Jews' is the sense you're using the word here - part of the ethnic network. They might have Jewish-sounding names - and have little or no connection to the ethnic culture/network.

    You're operating with stereotypes, but stereotypes are unreliable and often obsolete, formed generations ago. An 'Italian-American' is not necessarily in the Mafia.

    Aside from that, people have all kinds of pressures. However, people in upper strata tend to have strong sociopathic tendencies (I believe), and to be motivated by what they see as their personal interests, rather any perceived group interest. This is how they get to the top - by doing what's good for them.

    However, people in upper strata tend to have strong sociopathic tendencies (I believe), and to be motivated by what they see as their personal interests, rather any perceived group interest

    .

    Not to be labor the point – but whatever clannishness or tribalness is – nature or nurture – the Jews have it in spades.

    Peace — Art

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  185. As long as the average sleepy Westerner has a visceral horror at the Muslim mobs in the West, he’ll emotionally sympathize with the Israeli state and the Israeli people, who wear sundresses and flip flops just like his own folks. The introduction of Muslim mobs into the West may or may not be a Zionist plot designed to elicit just that sympathy for Israel. Whatever the case, it just goes to show that simultaneously campaigning against anti-Muslim sentiment and against Zionism is an unnatural and futile position going against deeply felt instincts in the Western man’s protoplasm. A dreamer and a Lysenkoist can tackle the two targets of Zionism and anti-Muslim sentiments at the same time but will be fighting a losing action.

    Of course, the particular problem outlined above facing our intrepid thought leaders becomes a moot point if #whitegenocide can actually come to pass and the population of the West can be replaced with sincerely pro-Muslim and anti-Zionist folks, i.e. the actual Muslims themselves.

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  186. @Svigor

    Unchecked, it will gobble up even more of its neighbors’ territories.
     
    I tend to agree. If able to keep their birthrate high, I think Israeli Jewry will eventually start colonizing the surrounding territory (Eretz Israel), in the name of lebensraum (though I doubt they'll use that word). They'll expand their settlement-building project into western Jordan (east bank), southern Lebanon, southwestern Syria, and Egypt (Sinai). It will all be done as a "private" enterprise by "individual" Jews, though they will use their military to thwart any attempted move against the settlements by militaries in the countries targeted. They will use Arab cutouts to buy, and regime-change against any attempt to nationalize the land. PMCs, private militias, etc., will handle day-to-day security. It will be done one country at a time, so as to avoid biting off too much to chew. When local Arabs inevitably turn to terrorism and low-intensity conflict, the Jewish locals will put the Apartheid boot down in their areas, as a "defensive" measure. The Zionist PR machine will spin it all as a story of "Jews persecuted by Muslims." This will continue as long as their birthrate is high, and no interested party has nukes.

    This is all assuming the Israelis don't come up with some innovative way to turn the Negev into fertile land (say, truly cost-efficient solar power), which is probably at least as likely. In that case, they'll develop the Negev first, but they'll have a huge problem on their hands, because the Arabs will do the same with their deserts, and churn out a couple billion kids.

    If Assad goes, so goes Syria. It would be a chaotic mess and Israel would be justified to invade to establish a huge “security zone”, now cleared of Syrians killed or refugeed. Jewish settlements would appear in these occupied territories, as they did in the Golan. None of this is disclosed or discussed in the American media. But it does explain why nearly all American political leaders chant “Assad Must Go!” yet refuse to explain why.
     
    Indeed, this would seem plausible, and to mesh well with the plan outlined above.

    The very next day, Israel announced it would build 3,000 more homes for Jews in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem. Screw the world, responded Israel.
     
    It is kind of interesting how Israeli Jews have openly framed their settlement-building as an assault on the world, "revenge" against their enemies, etc. It seems to be their response to every offense. Which sort of makes it obvious that their settlements are offensive (as Boobie is fond of saying, "Jews don't turn the other cheek")...

    The Muslims will forever be oppressed and dominated by the Europeans and the Jews. They will forever be poor, backward and weak.
     
    Well, they might consider sorting out their rulers, who keep fighting amongst themselves.

    For all the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948 an equal number of Jews were driven out of Muslim Arab nations. So lets call it even Steven.
     
    Well, no. The Palestinians should not have to pay for what their neighbors did, any more than they should have to pay for what the Europeans did.

    You just say this. Both the Bible, genetic history, and the right of conquest that established the borders of nearly every country all say the West Bank is rightfully Israel’s.

    The Golan Heights were taken after Syria twice invaded Israel.
     
    Scratch a moderate rightist, find a radical Zionist?

    The Bible isn't relevant to the rest of the world, or to Israel's neighbors. In fact, its use as a factor in American foreign policy is probably a violation to the Holy Separation of Church and State, as practiced by modern diaspora Jewry, and the American left.

    Genetic history? Like, Jews were far less than 2% of America's founding, so their population should be pared (way) back, to be in line with genetic history? That kind of genetic history?

    The right of conquest isn't much of a justification. It works for Zionists, but few else. And it's ye classic double-edged sword.

    US geopolitical strategists view it as an asset. Huge military base in the middle of a super-important region. An extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines.
     
    Not really. South Africa was a huge military base in an important region, an extremely useful trouble-maker behind enemy lines, and the American left (led by Jews, as always) threw them under the bus. They were much more loyal and cooperative than the Israelis.

    Strategic issues are secondary.

    During the 1980′s as house parents in a busy international youth hostel in Key West, Florida my family lived with hundreds of Israeli young men and women most of whom were Sabras (native born). What was most striking about the Israelis, compared to other groups we lived with, was the flat personal aspect and steely visage of these young men and women. Many carried, at a tender age, what has been described as the thousand-yard stare of veteran combatants.
     
    Sort of like the Wehrmacht, or the SS.

    linh

    i have been enjoying your postcard series because they describe real people.so why write this article.did you do your research.have you been to israel.
    however when i got to the end and read the last sentence i unbuckled a chuckle.
    amen indeed
     
    Never speak of anywhere you've never been? Where does this obtain? Certainly not among Zionists, who have an awful lot to say about Arab populations they've never lived among. Agnostic on the Moon landings, are we? Get your Zionist friends in line, before you try to police us.

    “Another apartheid country, South Africa, had to remake itself…”

    And yet Americans that separated the indigenous peoples here putting them on their so called ‘reservations’ see no irony in the fact that they themselves live in settlements on occupied land. Oh yes, you’ll now hear that we ‘bought’ or ‘traded’ for some of the land and that’s true…well to the extent that we dealt with the ones we didn’t murder as we killed our way across the land. On the bright side, we now allow them to have casinos and the President just took millions of acres of Nevada and Utah into federal custody to preserve, in part, ‘sacred’ sites of our own ‘palestinians’. Yay America….boo Israel.
     
    I'd be willing to bet that at least 90% of diaspora Jews are on "team Amerind" when it comes to the American colonial debate. Just like they're on "team black minority" vs. the white majority. But they suddenly switch values 180 degrees, when it comes to "team Palestians" and the Israeli colonial debate. They've got no room to talk about the irony. Just listen to you play the Zionist fiddle for the oppressed Indian natives, FFS.

    The preservation of that independence in the face of four wars of genocidal intent started by the Arabs
     
    Frequent Zionist lie, made no more true by their endless repetition.

    Today Israel, in spite of being nine miles wide, without natural resources, and surrounded by barbaric failed states, is a modern democracy with a human capital based economy. It has managed against all odds to not only preserve but thrive, including absorbing the Jews who were ethnically cleansed from Muslim countries which now form the majority of its population.
     
    Israel is an Apartheid state that continually makes a ruin of Jewry's reputation. Shows all their leftist posturing (in the diaspora, of course) for the lie it is.

    I tend to agree. If able to keep their birthrate high, I think Israeli Jewry will eventually start colonizing the surrounding territory (Eretz Israel),

    Of all the gaylordy things about SJW/Stormfag ranting about Israel, the attempts to show off their insider knowledge they got from Stormfag.com by by using Hebrew terms has to be the gaylordiest. 1) It’s “Eretz Yisrael”. 2) The term simply means “The Land of Israel” and since this term already has a known English equivalent of long duration it is simply weird and uncouth to use the Hebrew equivalent, still less inaccurately . It’s like someone pretending to be an authority about Italy and banging on about Furenzi and Venebia. Sad.

    They’ll expand their settlement-building project into western Jordan (east bank), southern Lebanon, southwestern Syria, and Egypt (Sinai). It will all be done as a “private” enterprise by “individual” Jews, though they will use their military to thwart any attempted move against the settlements by militaries in the countries targeted. They will use Arab cutouts to buy, and regime-change against any attempt to nationalize the land. PMCs, private militias, etc., will handle day-to-day security. It will be done one country at a time, so as to avoid biting off too much to chew

    Yeah, OK. Back in reality, here’s some of our “Apartheid boot” in action.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AMMYY7kb0c

    The Arabs have actually figured out a pretty good strategy for not losing land to Israelis: don’t launch wars of extermination against Israel. They’ve been employing this strategy since 1973 and it’s served them pretty well. Shame it took them two and half decades to figure it out, but they’re not the brightest tools in the box.

    In that case, they’ll develop the Negev first, but they’ll have a huge problem on their hands, because the Arabs will do the same with their deserts, and churn out a couple billion kids.

    By that inestimable logic, because Israel is already a world leader in medicine, biotech and computing, so is the Arab world. Any minute now I guess. You should invest, there’s doubtless money to be made.

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  187. @Clyde
    The Israelis would never take your style of harebrained advice. This is why they are still around in an ocean of Muslims and doing great economically. They are an exporting super power and hi-tech giant including cutting edge medical high tech. What do the Muslims s give/sell to the world? Oil is about it and frackin is killing them.
    One day your life will be saved by an Israeli medical advance. Or some ailment put on hold or cured.

    The Israelis would never take your style of harebrained advice. This is why they are still around in an ocean of Muslims and doing great economically.

    Ummm, anyone with a lick of sense understands that there’s a bit more to it than that.

    They are an exporting super power and hi-tech giant including cutting edge medical high tech.

    All Mickey Mouse. Yawn. You sound like a cargo cultist.

    What do the Muslims s give/sell to the world?

    Next we’ll hear from you that you’re part of a super race and all the rest will just have to be exterminated. BTW, you asked the question bass ackwards, but I don’t expect you to understand. Just don’t expect me to ‘splain it to ya, either.

    One day your life will be saved by an Israeli medical advance. Or some ailment put on hold or cured.

    So what? The world doesn’t revolve around me, but don’t ask me to explain. Adolescent narcissists need not apply.

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  188. @Corvinus
    "You are completely oblivious to Islam’s 1400 year track record of blood, forcible conversion, slaughter and imperialism. They are the world’s most successful imperialists."

    No, that would be the Europeans who carved out individually niches around the globe.

    "What other imperialists are still around after 1400 years?"

    The United States and China.

    "In more recent history, take a look at the imperialist Ottoman Empire and its vast slaughter of Armenians, Greeks and other Christians."

    "Islam’s current most important imperialist project is taking over Europe via immigration, bleeding European welfare systems dry so that they can punch out as many Muslim babies as possible. Its the slow-motion Jihad of conquest via demographic warfare."

    I would dare say that they are following in the footsteps of their Christian counterparts. After all, white people set the standard.

    It’s a dog eat dog world out there between the world’s great culture-collectivity-organisms. In this jungle, to lack collective guilt about imperialism is a trait of strength generally. Islam currently has the upper hand over Europe in this regard but it hasn’t always been this way, and maybe not in the future either. The question therefore becomes, will European self-guilt be a permanent character trait or is it just a temporary fancy? The first option is what is popularly called “cuckoldry” and suicide while the second option leads to a renewal of the furor teutonicus. Neither option smacks of moderation but then again Western man is notable for the relentless passion of his endeavors, in whatever he decides to undertake.

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Hey Feargus,

    You make a lot of good points. I think having guilt about British Imperialism or something gone almost a generation ago is just stupid. It was a dog-eat-dog (or empire-eat-empire) world. Sorry, but we all invaded each other and some were just better than others.

    Now that we have an international order based on some legal precepts (I know there are tons of imperfections) we can try to make sure we can bring that historic norm to a minimum - on all sides. Especially given the destructive power of our weapons; we aren't talking crossbows and pikes anymore folks.

    The best policy forward seems to be "don't invade, don't invite" until Europe figures out its identity issues.

    Peace.
  189. @Linh Dinh
    Hi jacques sheete,

    Communism sought to destroy the fabric of Vietnamse society, but thanks to its slackening, Vietnamese practices (good or bad) and traditions are going through a revival. It's too big a topic to go into here, but my novel, Love Like Hate, is a portrait of 20th century Vietnam.

    A few years ago, I was one of the initiators of Wikivietlit, an online overview of Vietnamese literature. The project never took off, but here are four typical entries (I had to write myself):

    Nam Cao (1915-1951), real name Trần Hữu Trí, was a fiction writer, playwright and poet, as well as an educator and author of a memoir.
    Nam Cao.jpg

    He was born in Hà Nam, went to Nam Định at age 10 to study, got sick and had to return home before graduating from high school. He married at age 18, then took a train to Saigon a few months later to become a secretary for a tailor. In 1936, he published his first stories and poems.

    Returning North that year, he obtained his high school degree, taught at a private school in Hanoi until it was requisitioned by the invading Japanese Army in 1940, forcing him to go to Thái Bình, where he continued to teach. One of his five children died of hunger during the Japanese occupation.

    He joined the Vietminh resistance movement in 1943, then the Communist Party in 1948. He wrote about himself, "He was not suitable for the gun or the sword, so he would have to fight with the pen." In 1951, he was caught by the French in Ninh Bình and executed.

    Nam Cao's 1941 short story,"Chí Phèo", is one of the most celebrated in Vietnamese literature, with its eponymous character an emblem for a type of hapless, desperate, downtrodden yet deeply human individual.
     

    Trần Vàng Sao (1942), real name Nguyễn Đính, is a poet, also a memoirist.

    He was born in Hue. Soon after, his father was killed by the French during the First Indochina War. During the Vietnam War, he contributed to the underground newspaper Thanh Niên Chống Mỹ [Youth against America]. He joined the National Liberation Front in 1965, lived in areas under its control, broadcasting propaganda until 1969, when he was injured and removed to the north.

    In spite of his allegiance to the Communist cause during the war--his pen name, "Vàng Sao," means "Yellow Star," a reference to the national flag--he has been blacklisted since 1972 for his candid depictions of social conditions inside Vietnam. He’s been harassed constantly, even imprisoned, his manuscripts confiscated.

    His poetic voice is bemused, ironic, deliberately banal, a reaction against the dogmatic bombast of many of his contemporaries. His poems have been translated into English and published in the journals American Poetry Review (Vol.28/No.1, Jan/Feb 1999) and The Literary Review (Winter 1999).
     

    Trần Dần (1926-1997), as a novelist, first rallied intellectuals to war against the French, then as poet inspired them to critical resistance to Communist Party domination of public and intellectual life.

    He was born in Nam Định and died in Hanoi. In 1946, he joined the Vietnamese Communist resistance against the French, but by 1953, had fallen out of favor with the Party. In 1956, he was jailed for three months in Hoả Lò Prison (better known to Americans as Hanoi Hilton), where he tried to commit suicide. In 1956-57, he was one of the key members of the dissident group Nhân Văn Giai Phẩm. During 1958-1960, he was condemned to hard labor for months at a time. From 1959 until 1988, he was banned from publishing, although he continued to write novels and poems. His poetry is among the most radical in the history of Vietnamese literature. Phạm Thị Hoài has edited a book of his journal entries Trần Dần – Ghi: 1954-1960 (Paris: TD Mémoire, 2001)

    He is translated into English and included in the anthology, Black Dog, Black Night.
     

    Nguyễn Chí Thiện (1939) is a poet, also the author of short stories and memoirs concerning his life as a political prisoner.

    He was born in Hanoi, the youngest of four children, then moved to Hải Phòng with his family in 1956. His father was a minor official at the court, his mother a small merchant. He contracted tuberculosis in his youth, and never studied beyond high school, although he read and educated himself, and became somewhat proficient in French. His troubles began in December of 1960. Substituting for a sick friend, he taught a high school class and noticed that the history textbook stated that the Soviet Union had defeated the Japanese Army in Manchuria, bringing an end to World War II. Oh no, he told his students, the United States defeated Japan when they dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He paid for this remark with three years and six months in labor camps. There, he met other literary men, composed poems in his head and learned them by heart. In 1966 he was returned to prison after a short release.

    This time the police charged him with composing politically irreverent poems that circulated in Hanoi and Hải Phòng. He denied it, and spent another eleven years and five months in labor camps. Authorities never brought him to trial, for lack of evidence, but they had the right man. The tubercular youth had become an outlaw whose every step and breath counted the beat of verses, poetry against oppression.

    In 1977, two years after Saigon fell, Thien and other political prisoners were released to make room for officers of the Republic of Vietnam. He had been composing poems all the while, and now seized the opportunity of freedom to write them down and bring his art to the world. Two days after Bastille Day, on July 16, 1979, he dashed into the British Embassy at Hanoi with his manuscript of four hundred poems. He had prepared a cover letter in French, but the embassy of France was too closely guarded.

    British diplomats welcomed him and promised to send his manuscript out of the country. When he got out of the Embassy, security agents waited for him at the gate. Dragged to Hỏa Lò prison, the famous Hanoi Hilton now empty of US flyers, he spent another twelve years in jail and prison camps, often in stocks in solitary darkness. It came to a total of twenty-seven years’ imprisonment. But meanwhile, the British diplomats kept their word. His manuscript collection, Hoa địa ngục [Flowers of Hell], appeared in two separate editions overseas.

    Nguyễn Chí Thiện had the great satisfaction of seeing a copy of his book waved in his face by his angry captors. He didn’t know that his poems also were translated into English, French, German, Dutch, Chinese, Spanish, and Korean. They were set to music by the great Phạm Duy and sung around the world. While their author lay in irons, Thiện’s poems won the International Poetry Award in Rotterdam in 1985. Six years later the poet was released from jail, as the socialist world collapsed in 1991. He lived in Hanoi under close watch by the authorities, but his international following also kept an eye on Thiện.

    Human Rights Watch honored him in 1995. That year he emigrated to the United States, due to the intervention of Noburo Masuoka, retired Air Force colonel, a career military officer who was drafted into the U.S. Army from an internment camp for Japanese Americans in 1945. After the normalization of relations with Vietnam, Masuoka was able to arrange special asylum for the poet in the United States. Thiện went to Virginia, the home of his brother, Nguyễn Công Giân, whom he had not seen for forty-one years. Giân himself had lived America only since 1993. A lieutenant colonel in the Army of the Republic of Vietnam, he had been taken to a re-education camp in the North right after the fall of Saigon in 1975, to remain for thirteen years.

    As if released from prison once more, Thiện wrote another book’s worth of poems from memory. The three hundred Vietnamese poems and some select English translations were published in 1996. In 1998, The International Parliament of Writers awarded Nguyễn Chí Thiện a three-year fellowship in France. He lectured around Europe while he wrote and published a collection of short stories, rooted in the reality of his years in Hỏa Lò prison.

    He returned from France to Orange County, California, where he took the oath of American citizenship in 2004. He continues to improve his health and speaks regularly on humanitarian issues of interest to the Vietnamese community.
     

    Communism sought to destroy the fabric of Vietnamse society,

    Yes. And it comes as no surprise to me since Marxists were supported by big money which in turn was made by colonialists who had already been busy tearing societies to shreds for centuries. Orwell’s last sentence in Animal Farm was spot on.

    “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

    ― George Orwell, Animal Farm

    Here’s Mencken with a similar comment.

    The Pinks have a magnificent capacity for mistaking Freudian wishes for objective facts, but they are still in sufficient contact with reality to know, if only subconsciously, that the difference between Communism and Fascism is fundamentally very slight, and that the one always tends to turn into the other.

    - H.L. Mencken, The American Future The American Mercury, February 1937, pp. 129-136
    https://www.unz.org/Pub/AmMercury-1937feb-00129

    but thanks to its slackening, Vietnamese practices (good or bad) and traditions are going through a revival.

    I am very happy to hear that.

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  190. @biz

    And about 10% of them are Christians.
     
    I see you didn't follow my above links in response to the other comment but you can easily look up, in e.g. the CIA World Factbook or any other source, that Christians are less than 2% of the population of the West Bank and less than 1% of the population of Gaza. Sorry.

    At least you didn't claim that Christians are half like the other commenter. Progress lol.

    As for them being indigenous, I know you want it to be that way, but it simply isn't the case. "Palestinians" are just Arabs descended from relatively recent Muslim invaders.

    Hey biz,

    “Palestinians” are just Arabs descended from relatively recent Muslim invaders.

    Yeah – I guess 1400+ years is relatively recent when you take the age of the Earth into account.

    As for them being indigenous, I know you want it to be that way, but it simply isn’t the case.

    Yes, yes, please explain to us how Ethiopian Jews are indigenous.

    Peace.

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    The first military conquest by the Caliphate was indeed 1400 years ago, but the process of colonization and displacement of the natives by Muslim Arabs from the Peninsula was gradual and ongoing, and mostly concentrated in the last 600 years. Estimates are that the Fertile Crescent area had Muslim minority, with Arab Muslims outnumbered by combined Assyrians, Greek Orthodox, Maronites, Jews, and others, until as late as 1700. Even that late settlement is dwarfed, however, by the Arab settlement that came in the beginning of the 20th century from Egypt, Jordan, and elsewhere, attracted by the economic opportunities opened up by British and Jewish enterprises.

    Anyway you slice it, the Muslim Arabs who have in very recent decades been called "Palestinians" are too recent arrivals to be honestly considered 'indigenous' if that word is to have any meaning.

  191. @Linh Dinh
    Hi jacques sheete,

    Communism sought to destroy the fabric of Vietnamse society, but thanks to its slackening, Vietnamese practices (good or bad) and traditions are going through a revival. It's too big a topic to go into here, but my novel, Love Like Hate, is a portrait of 20th century Vietnam.

    A few years ago, I was one of the initiators of Wikivietlit, an online overview of Vietnamese literature. The project never took off, but here are four typical entries (I had to write myself):

    Nam Cao (1915-1951), real name Trần Hữu Trí, was a fiction writer, playwright and poet, as well as an educator and author of a memoir.
    Nam Cao.jpg

    He was born in Hà Nam, went to Nam Định at age 10 to study, got sick and had to return home before graduating from high school. He married at age 18, then took a train to Saigon a few months later to become a secretary for a tailor. In 1936, he published his first stories and poems.

    Returning North that year, he obtained his high school degree, taught at a private school in Hanoi until it was requisitioned by the invading Japanese Army in 1940, forcing him to go to Thái Bình, where he continued to teach. One of his five children died of hunger during the Japanese occupation.

    He joined the Vietminh resistance movement in 1943, then the Communist Party in 1948. He wrote about himself, "He was not suitable for the gun or the sword, so he would have to fight with the pen." In 1951, he was caught by the French in Ninh Bình and executed.

    Nam Cao's 1941 short story,"Chí Phèo", is one of the most celebrated in Vietnamese literature, with its eponymous character an emblem for a type of hapless, desperate, downtrodden yet deeply human individual.
     

    Trần Vàng Sao (1942), real name Nguyễn Đính, is a poet, also a memoirist.

    He was born in Hue. Soon after, his father was killed by the French during the First Indochina War. During the Vietnam War, he contributed to the underground newspaper Thanh Niên Chống Mỹ [Youth against America]. He joined the National Liberation Front in 1965, lived in areas under its control, broadcasting propaganda until 1969, when he was injured and removed to the north.

    In spite of his allegiance to the Communist cause during the war--his pen name, "Vàng Sao," means "Yellow Star," a reference to the national flag--he has been blacklisted since 1972 for his candid depictions of social conditions inside Vietnam. He’s been harassed constantly, even imprisoned, his manuscripts confiscated.

    His poetic voice is bemused, ironic, deliberately banal, a reaction against the dogmatic bombast of many of his contemporaries. His poems have been translated into English and published in the journals American Poetry Review (Vol.28/No.1, Jan/Feb 1999) and The Literary Review (Winter 1999).
     

    Trần Dần (1926-1997), as a novelist, first rallied intellectuals to war against the French, then as poet inspired them to critical resistance to Communist Party domination of public and intellectual life.

    He was born in Nam Định and died in Hanoi. In 1946, he joined the Vietnamese Communist resistance against the French, but by 1953, had fallen out of favor with the Party. In 1956, he was jailed for three months in Hoả Lò Prison (better known to Americans as Hanoi Hilton), where he tried to commit suicide. In 1956-57, he was one of the key members of the dissident group Nhân Văn Giai Phẩm. During 1958-1960, he was condemned to hard labor for months at a time. From 1959 until 1988, he was banned from publishing, although he continued to write novels and poems. His poetry is among the most radical in the history of Vietnamese literature. Phạm Thị Hoài has edited a book of his journal entries Trần Dần – Ghi: 1954-1960 (Paris: TD Mémoire, 2001)

    He is translated into English and included in the anthology, Black Dog, Black Night.
     

    Nguyễn Chí Thiện (1939) is a poet, also the author of short stories and memoirs concerning his life as a political prisoner.

    He was born in Hanoi, the youngest of four children, then moved to Hải Phòng with his family in 1956. His father was a minor official at the court, his mother a small merchant. He contracted tuberculosis in his youth, and never studied beyond high school, although he read and educated himself, and became somewhat proficient in French. His troubles began in December of 1960. Substituting for a sick friend, he taught a high school class and noticed that the history textbook stated that the Soviet Union had defeated the Japanese Army in Manchuria, bringing an end to World War II. Oh no, he told his students, the United States defeated Japan when they dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He paid for this remark with three years and six months in labor camps. There, he met other literary men, composed poems in his head and learned them by heart. In 1966 he was returned to prison after a short release.

    This time the police charged him with composing politically irreverent poems that circulated in Hanoi and Hải Phòng. He denied it, and spent another eleven years and five months in labor camps. Authorities never brought him to trial, for lack of evidence, but they had the right man. The tubercular youth had become an outlaw whose every step and breath counted the beat of verses, poetry against oppression.

    In 1977, two years after Saigon fell, Thien and other political prisoners were released to make room for officers of the Republic of Vietnam. He had been composing poems all the while, and now seized the opportunity of freedom to write them down and bring his art to the world. Two days after Bastille Day, on July 16, 1979, he dashed into the British Embassy at Hanoi with his manuscript of four hundred poems. He had prepared a cover letter in French, but the embassy of France was too closely guarded.

    British diplomats welcomed him and promised to send his manuscript out of the country. When he got out of the Embassy, security agents waited for him at the gate. Dragged to Hỏa Lò prison, the famous Hanoi Hilton now empty of US flyers, he spent another twelve years in jail and prison camps, often in stocks in solitary darkness. It came to a total of twenty-seven years’ imprisonment. But meanwhile, the British diplomats kept their word. His manuscript collection, Hoa địa ngục [Flowers of Hell], appeared in two separate editions overseas.

    Nguyễn Chí Thiện had the great satisfaction of seeing a copy of his book waved in his face by his angry captors. He didn’t know that his poems also were translated into English, French, German, Dutch, Chinese, Spanish, and Korean. They were set to music by the great Phạm Duy and sung around the world. While their author lay in irons, Thiện’s poems won the International Poetry Award in Rotterdam in 1985. Six years later the poet was released from jail, as the socialist world collapsed in 1991. He lived in Hanoi under close watch by the authorities, but his international following also kept an eye on Thiện.

    Human Rights Watch honored him in 1995. That year he emigrated to the United States, due to the intervention of Noburo Masuoka, retired Air Force colonel, a career military officer who was drafted into the U.S. Army from an internment camp for Japanese Americans in 1945. After the normalization of relations with Vietnam, Masuoka was able to arrange special asylum for the poet in the United States. Thiện went to Virginia, the home of his brother, Nguyễn Công Giân, whom he had not seen for forty-one years. Giân himself had lived America only since 1993. A lieutenant colonel in the Army of the Republic of Vietnam, he had been taken to a re-education camp in the North right after the fall of Saigon in 1975, to remain for thirteen years.

    As if released from prison once more, Thiện wrote another book’s worth of poems from memory. The three hundred Vietnamese poems and some select English translations were published in 1996. In 1998, The International Parliament of Writers awarded Nguyễn Chí Thiện a three-year fellowship in France. He lectured around Europe while he wrote and published a collection of short stories, rooted in the reality of his years in Hỏa Lò prison.

    He returned from France to Orange County, California, where he took the oath of American citizenship in 2004. He continues to improve his health and speaks regularly on humanitarian issues of interest to the Vietnamese community.
     

    LD…

    Those “entries” you wrote are stunning. What a difference between those guys and the punk American “heroes” of today.

    Cảm ơn anh

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  192. @Corvinus
    "You are completely oblivious to Islam’s 1400 year track record of blood, forcible conversion, slaughter and imperialism. They are the world’s most successful imperialists."

    No, that would be the Europeans who carved out individually niches around the globe.

    "What other imperialists are still around after 1400 years?"

    The United States and China.

    "In more recent history, take a look at the imperialist Ottoman Empire and its vast slaughter of Armenians, Greeks and other Christians."

    "Islam’s current most important imperialist project is taking over Europe via immigration, bleeding European welfare systems dry so that they can punch out as many Muslim babies as possible. Its the slow-motion Jihad of conquest via demographic warfare."

    I would dare say that they are following in the footsteps of their Christian counterparts. After all, white people set the standard.

    Hey Corvinus,

    I don’t know if you’ve ever come across this map; it is a geographical mapping of all battles in recorded history – an amazing and useful endeavor. See any patterns, any clusters perhaps?
    http://battles.nodegoat.net/viewer.p/23/385

    Which is why I don’t take these jokers too seriously, neither should you. If Mawlana Clyde isn’t being paid for his work here, he should be.

    Peace.

    P.S. Actually on second thought, most of his stuff is completely unoriginal copy-paste from his previous posts – so no soup for him!

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Bad link...

    http://battles.nodegoat.net/viewer.p/23/385/scenario/1/geo/fullscreen

    , @Clyde
    Islam with its 1400 year track record of conquest, killing and forcibly converting infidels. The world's most during and successful imperials. Submit to (phony baloney) Allah or else. The word Islam means submission.
    "In Arabic, the word “Islam” means submission or surrender" https://goo.gl/NVFkC8

    So the brainwashed 5x daily head bumpers submit to Islam/Allah...... But all infidels must submit to.
  193. @Durruti
    On "Uncle Ho," Google & pick & choose.

    He spent some time in Paris, and his movement were considered Allies (resisted the Japanese), during WW II, until betrayed after the war by the French, and, later, the United States Government.

    Zionist general, Moshe Dayan, recommended the U.S. use Nuclear weapons against the Vietnamese.

    Within the USA, little will change until we:

    Restore the Republic!

    * Most Americans never heard of Pedro Albizu Campos, Puerto Rican Nationalist, imprisoned by the American Government for 20 years and tortured. [Harvard Law School Grad. 2nd Lieut in the American Army. supporter of Irish Independence]

    https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Albizu.jpg&imgrefurl=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Albizu_Campos&h=275&w=168&tbnid=Ch5w_RCJxYqu4M:&vet=1&tbnh=186&tbnw=113&docid=qO3EqaZ6ojFpDM&itg=1&usg=__RIo3TB5vsIfrxDEkcRage4Xz_dg=&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZ2Pbp7KPRAhXGOyYKHeg-BlYQ_B0IcjAK

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwix1-OR76PRAhWGQiYKHbTXDDQQFggaMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPonce_massacre&usg=AFQjCNFmM5u2ioZx2QcKfNuUntxFpORN4g&sig2=a5yTSx-6r43nUaB_VO52mA

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwimg_qg7aPRAhWBVCYKHSy6C0cQFggaMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUnited_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_(1954)&usg=AFQjCNFn0UYFZCW3_JStOQjoN-Wij1SXHA&sig2=IbjMiQ9qrJGfo5vkMBGdD

    On “Uncle Ho,” Google & pick & choose.

    I asked because I was hoping to hear LD’s personal suggestions and insights. I guess he told me, with the comment that the Commies sought to destroy society (which they did), what he thinks of “Uncle” Ho. I was brought up in a very comprehensive Roman Catholic tradition of long standing and loathing of Comminizm was imbibed along with me mother’s milk and is still part of my bones.

    However, I learned only one part of the story, and have since learned that there are many parts to it and I retain a probably pathologic curiosity about them.

    Anyway, Googling, both random and focused, is a favorite sport of mine and I did just that for the guys you mentioned, and I thank you.

    I really need to read up on this dude…Pedro Albizu Campos. I find it amazing and tragic that a guy like that is so obscure.

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    I have read that Uncle Ho wasn't a communist at all, he was a nationalist. His first choice was to model the Vietnamese system on the USA and went so far as to ask for US assistance in doing just that but was refused due to the US not wanting to upset the French. I read that he then turned to communists for help and when asked if he was a Marxist or Trotskyist he asked which one was for national independence?
  194. @iffen
    LD,

    Please, more fabulous postcards, no more polemics.

    STOP reading Unz.

    Please, more fabulous postcards, no more polemics.

    Cuz the truth hurts.

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  195. @Clyde
    Please...mondoweiss is a skunk but paratrop linked to it. I scanned what it said/which was not much/ then threw back to paratrop a quote from it. As simple as this.
    Quick question for you in this new year of 2017. What is the word's most successful and enduring imperialism?

    Imperial English leather followed by old spice.

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