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My Grandma's Old House in Saigon, 2019

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In December of 2011, I was on an Amtrak rolling through North Carolina. Sitting in the lounge car, I gazed mostly at trees and fields, with their isolated houses or trailers. Every so often, a town would flit by, Smithfield, Kenly, Elm City… Though all these names meant nothing to me, each settlement appeared sweet and inviting, and I constantly wished I could just get off the train. Once in Mississippi, I did just that, so had to take an additional bus to my final destination.

In Kenly, there’s a Stormin’ Norman’s Barbecue, which I thought was General Schwarzkopf’s. That would have been a good catch if it was, a place worth visiting. Most often, though, a traveler will ride or walk right by a spot without realizing its significance.

At Rocky Mount, the train stopped, and there wasn’t much to look at but a bunch of dead storefronts, with only Bottoms Insurance in business. Still, I was very excited. Turning around, I shouted to two strangers, both around 25-years-old, sitting at a nearby table, “Hey, this is where Thelonious Monk was born!”

Of course, they were startled and a bit annoyed, for I had interrupted their flirting. The white woman had just graduated from the University of North Carolina, majoring in administration. On the Formica table in front of her was a lurid paperback, the type you buy at 7-11. The black man had been talking about how nice he smelled each time he wore his girlfriend’s coat.

Since Monk stopped playing even before I got airlifted out of Saigon, I never saw him, but in 1983, I did catch a concert in Washington DC by Charlie Rouse, Monk’s long-time sax player. A local drummer, Dude Brown, was also wonderful that evening. As an aspiring artist/writer, I was impressed not just by Monk’s singularity, but his late silence. Without an explanation, Monk simply stopped, and it’s too simplistic to say he was burnt out.

Though Monk was only five when he moved to NYC from Rocky Mount, it certainly shaped him, and it’s speculated that his Rootie Tootie, with its train sounds, is an echo from his infancy. As Sam Stephenson points out, “There aren’t any train whistles in New York City.”

These thoughts occurred to me this week after I happened to walk by a Saigon building I recognized as the old Cambodian Embassy. Its two guardian lions tipped me off. After half a century, I was suddenly in my maternal grandma’s neighborhood. Turning right, I soon ran into the Banana Orchard Market, whose name I still remembered. Locating my grandma’s house, though, wasn’t so easy, for it’s tucked in an alley, but which one?

As an adult in the US, I would sometimes think of these alleys, with some so mazelike and narrow, I started to doubt my memory. In a dream or half dream, I would find myself in a dark, twisting, tunnel-like alley near my grandma’s house, but waking up, I would think, surely such a place cannot exist. This week, I was in that alley.

After a few false turns, I finally found myself staring at my grandma’s house. Though its door and windows were old enough, they weren’t from 1975, when my grandma last lived here. The opposite house was less than six feet away, even closer than I remembered. As a child, I spent quite a bit of time in this tiny house, and even attended first grade in the neighborhood. My mother liked to outsource mothering.

It has but two rooms, with a round window in the wall separating them. Like a bird or a child on the moon, I often perched in that window. The kitchen was in the back and partly open. At night, sometimes I could hear a cat walking on a neighboring tin roof.

My maternal grandpa was killed by the Communists in the early 50’s, so my grandma had to raise five children by herself, yet she managed to put each through college. By the time I lived in that house, only my youngest aunt, Hằng, was there with my grandma. Aunt Hằng was in law school. In the US, she worked as a law librarian for nearly forty years, for just one firm on I Street in Washington DC.

In 1972, I was sitting on a bed with aunt Hằng and my grandma, watching TV, when a man arrived to announce that my uncle Bảo, on my father’s side, had just been killed. Uncle Bảo was a medic in the South Vietnamese Marines. Not yet married, he was considered the best looking of four sons. Since neither woman really knew uncle Bảo, they only sniffled a bit, and not sobbed, I noticed.

After my parents got divorced in 1973, I never entered that house again, so the very next time I saw my grandma was in a Guam refugee camp in May of 1975. With about 100,000 people living in endless rows of hastily erected Army tents, it was a miracle I should run into anyone I knew, but there was my grandma, and though she was happy to see me, she wasn’t effusive. It was as if we had chanced onto each other at the Saigon Zoo.

Saigon had fallen, and my father was presumably still there, with his fate uncertain. Escaping, my grandma had left behind many relatives and friends. Like all the other Vietnamese in Guam, she had no idea where she would go next, and what she had to do, yet her composure was rather typical, for Vietnamese can impose normalcy on just about any situation. Since the refugee camp had access to a beach, many people went swimming.

ORDER IT NOW

From a barge just offshore, but well within view, at least a dozen American GIs were skinny dipping, not unlike the boys in Thomas Eakins’ Swimming Hole. On the beach, there were dozens of Vietnamese, including old people and little kids. Our alienness likely prodded these young men into their exhibition, licensed their inhibition. Whooping and hollering, they were having a fine time. Though hardly believing what they were seeing, the Vietnamese were mostly passive.

Some Americans were inside the refugee camp as food vendors, so there was a man selling hot dogs. My grandma bought me one, but as she was about to pay, she asked, “How many?” instead of “How much?” An 11-year-old smart ass, I thought to myself, Grandma is wrong! I never saw my grandma again after that afternoon. Living only three years in the US, she’s buried in Northern Virginia.

Walking around the Banana Orchard neighborhood, I recognized just one business, a corner restaurant, although its name had likely been changed. My old school, too, had a new name, Lương Định Của. Educated in Hong Kong, Shanghai, Fukuoka and Kyoto, Lương Định Của was a pioneering Vietnamese agronomist, and his wife, Nobuko Nakamura, also made a name for herself, first as a Japanese language broadcaster for Voice of Vietnam, then for her memoir, Wind from Hanoi, which was published in Japan in 2000.

Interviewed in 2013 by a Vietnamese magazine, Tuổi Trẻ, Nakamura shared, “Everyone say that Japan is a developed and wealthy country, but Vietnam is poor, and during my time, there was also war, so I must have suffered. But it wasn’t like that. No matter how much I suffered, my life wasn’t as hard as it was for a Vietnamese peasant, out in the field from early morning, with his feet in the bone chilling mud, and not much to eat. Also, the Vietnamese have always helped me. And next to me, I had my husband, Của, and my children.”

In Vietnam since 1952, Nakamura lives in a Banana Orchard alley.

The most remarkable person to be associated with this neighborhood is probably Thich Quang Duc, the monk who immolated himself to protest President Ngo Dinh Diem’s treatment of Buddhists. There is a memorial in Banana Orchard where this happened. After this historic suicide, the monk’s body was taken to Xá Lợi Pagoda, to be cremated, but his heart would not burn, even at well over 7,200 degrees Fahrenheit. Sealed in a silver pyramid, it’s now kept in a Saigon bank vault.

Thelonious Monk’s middle name is Sphere, which is wonderfully apt, for there’s an entire world already inside each person, much less a neighborhood. Each will remain colorless and flat, however, unless fleshed out by stories.

I finish this article in a café, Góc Nhỏ [Little Corner], where at least half of the clients are fixated to their smart phone, so Vietnamese, too, are becoming rootless provincials. In more advanced societies, though, this deracination is much more pervasive and maybe even terminal. Ignoring their neighbors’ stories, billions have become addicted to an infinity of false news, images, sounds and sensations.

Commenting on my article, “Mashed Potato and Another War for Israel,” Joe Levantine pleads, “Westerners should leave their screens and start reaching out to their neighbours and their relatives to stand a chance against the cultural onslaught they are being subjected to.”

When this onslaught constitutes everything you know, withdrawal may be impossible.

Linh Dinh’s latest book is Postcards from the End of America. He maintains a regularly updated photo blog.

 
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  1. Escher says:

    Cellphones are the delivery devices for the opium that keeps us sedated. If you are always looking down into these devices, you are not looking up at the madness around you.

  2. @Escher

    Pretty much, Escher. The madness envelopes us.

  3. @Escher

    What strikes me as odd is how, despite technological advances, people are poorer in America than they were 30 years ago.

    The infrastructure is crumbling. Violence in cities like Chicago is horrendous. Cartels are practically running New Mexico. Its a police state. Wars in Afghanistan have gone on forever. Forty year old middle class people live at home.

    Yet people don’t notice.

  4. EXPAT QUESTIONS FOR MR. LINH

    Is Guam worse that Philly? I’ve known many Filipinos who go there for work and I’m surprised more Americans don’t immigrate to Guam who are being killed by urban criminals or walking overdosing Opoid victims in the post-industrial graveyards that expats like you and I come from. Is Guam really that bad? Why didn’t you return to Guam when you left Philly?

    Is your economic situation in Vietnam really superior to what it would be in Guam or even Philly? Has the state of Pennsylvania decomposed to such a degree that you would not obtain a better-paying job there than in Vietnam?

    At some point you mentioned that you would have not been able to survive economically in the United States at all. I’ve spoken to Americans who lived on $300 a month in Philippines and preferred Neepah Huts to the horrors of homeless shelters in America. Is this true of your situation as well? Is the economy of the US so dreadful that you would be unemployable with your degrees?

    Or is it the quality of life in Asia that you like. Tropical sunsets. No serious crime or gangs. No, ahem, diversity. No media garbage.

    As a fellow expat with no connection to this Asian country who was born in a post-industrial graveyard state, I’m curious what your own motivation is.

  5. Biff says:

    Superb piece of work Mr. Dinh.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  6. Great article Linh. I enjoy each one very much. Thanks for the lesson.

  7. Wonderfully touching and dream-like story of being able to find grandma’s house from earliest years … when thoughout much of life maybe Linh Dinh would not have expected to be able to see it again

    Another profound aspect is that the house is still there, a home obviously with some gracious aspects despite being small etc

    In Asia and the world, there is too much of taking down older, human-scale places, and replacing them with modern big buildings

    One good thing about Europe is the large amount of old buildings and neighbourhoods still there

    Where one can feel nostalgia even in places not one’s own

    A nostalgia I felt as well, reading Linh Dinh’s piece above … am glad Linh Dinh is back there, the spirits of his ancestors smiling to see him back in the old neighbourhoods

    • Replies: @Alfred
  8. Thank you for your journaling. Don’t ever stop.

  9. @Escher

    But a lot of madness there on the screen of those devices too, especially if you’re looking in on that mad mad world from somewhere far removed from the urban industrial madness. And if tuned into UR you’ll never escape the madness. When I read some of the stuff you come across on sites such as this I can’t believe it. Like people getting prosecuted because they used a wrong pronoun in a tweet when referring to some gender ambiguous freak. Or even just getting deplatformed by Zuck and company for such a slip of the fingers on the keyboard. Like really? Does such a world truly exist out there?

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  10. @Commentator Mike

    COMMENTATOR

    That is if you live in the United States. If you are an expat, you can say whatever you want. Of course you can do it anonymously in the US.

    As an expat, one thing that always shocks me is how unwilling and reluctant Americans are to simply leave the United States.

    They post things about moving into the middle of nowhere. If the middle of nowhere is in the United States, that won’t help you. Leave. Get off your backside and grab a plane. Find an inexpensive country. Operate a business. Do something. Apply for citizenship.

    And let me tell all the proles and working stiffs here that that is what Zuck and his cohorts will do. They will simply board the old private jet and fly off to a new life in New Zealand. I live overseas and can assure you that many of their bank accounts are overseas. Money can be withdrawn from Swiss accounts anywhere. Or transferred to Sydney or Auckland. If you think the people that own half the economy give a fat rat’s ass about the common poor whites who are facing a Brazil in the future, forget about it.

  11. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @jeff stryker

    Hi Jeff,

    I have no familiarly with Guam. I was there for one week as an 11-year-old refugee. All I know of Guam was the temporary refugee camp.

    In the US, rent takes up more than half of a poor man’s income, so that’s very stressful. Before I published books, I was a house painter, house cleaner and, occasionally, even window washer. I have no college degrees.

    Linh

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @fish
  12. eah says:

    As an adult in the US…in a Guam refugee camp in May of 1975. With about 100,000 people living in endless rows of hastily erected Army tents,…

    I put these two parts together in mind — I had no idea, back then, when living in the SFBA, that the arrival of Vietnamese refugees that began in 1975 (and was quite noticeable) was the beginning of the end of the America we were born and grew up in — at the time, Whites were still a super majority, even in CA — since then, the country has undergone demographic and social change that no one could have imagined, and, I believe, very few would have wanted or approved, if given a choice — which we never were.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Craig Nelsen
  13. @Linh Dinh

    DEAR MR LINH

    When I was eight years more naive in the Philippines I asked a Connecticut steelworker why he chose to live in a Neepah Hut. In the US he had lost his condo in a divorce and his job in quick succession and he proceeded to tell me the horrors of US homeless shelters and how he had woken in his cot to find a burly nude black crackhead was masturbating on his head. He had served in the military in the Philippines so he sold his Harley and used the money to move there. He managed to pay rent on his Neepah hut and have enough left over for his beer and weed and local street food.

    However, I knew some Americans who lived in the Philippines who would work in Guam and then return. Some people cannot stand to run a girly bar. The violence, the corrupt cops who want free girls, the medical checkups, paying for the bar licensing etc. Of course some guys pull disability frauds.

    In Cebu you can rent a fairly nice bungalow for $100 a month. I lived in a subdivision for $200.

    One thing that the steelworker told me was that most normal Americans who have jobs and go to sleep at 10 pm have no idea what goes on in the US streets at night. While one joker here said in all earnestness that homeless shelters should be segregated-which says something about the US economy-the reality is that you are safer on the street. Or so the gentleman in the Neepah Hut told me.

    • Replies: @Thim
  14. eah says:
    @eah

    the country has undergone demographic and social change that no one could have imagined

    It’s been obliterated:

  15. eah: “… since [1975], the country has undergone demographic and social change that no one could have imagined, and, I believe, very few would have wanted or approved, if given a choice — which we never were.”

    This is a common refrain on the right, that there was never a vote. Jared Taylor makes the same complaint in his current article on this site. I’ve read it many other places too. First, it’s ironic, because many if not most of those making this objection are no big fans of democracy, and tend toward the authoritarian. But second, and more importantly, it misunderstands the nature of change in a technological society. For example, above Mr. Dinh laments changes the smartphone has brought to society; that it is in fact destroying society, alienating people from each other and their own culture. There was never a vote on that either. Nobody foresees all the consequences of technological development. There are always side effects, most of them bad, and sometimes they are devastating. But when you accept the technology, you endorse the consequences. That’s the vote. People vote by doing; by using the technology they are cooperating in changing their society. Demographic changes are no different. The population explosion of non-whites and the relative decline of whites is tied to technological developments such as the Green Revolution, and the development of scientific birth control, the latter of which whites tend to use more than non-whites. We’re now living with the consequences — a globalized, multi-racial world in which whites are diminishing, and in which, due to mass transportation technologies, people can move about freely from continent to continent, non-whites overwhelming previously white areas; consequences which were in some sense perhaps foreseeable, but not in fact foreseen.

  16. Anon[310] • Disclaimer says:

    I thought that Ron Unz was going to limit the excessive comments of the Jeff Stryker character

    • Agree: utu
    • LOL: MAOWASAYALI, Biff
  17. eah says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    That’s quite a lot of ‘blah blah’ — some would say you are attempting to ‘bamboozle with bullshit’ — not me of course.

    Since you’re a “Dr.” (of something), you ought to be able to figure out how to use the REPLY function.

    The population explosion of non-whites and the relative decline of whites is tied to technological developments such as the Green Revolution, and the development of scientific birth control, the latter of which whites tend to use more than non-whites.

    None of which directly caused all of those non-whites to emigrate to America and other white, western countries (and then invite their family members) — that happened due to their desire to escape their own ‘shitholes’, which unhappily (for white countries anyway) coincided with pathologically altruistic immigration laws in white countries which allowed it — Whites in these countries never directly voted in favor of such immigration laws, nor the resulting demographic transformation — in fact, at least in the US, people were assured it would not happen (after passage of Hart-Celler).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  18. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    The right loves to talk about “moral degeneracy” but refuses to address the technological changes that have made developments like feminism and open homosexuality practically inevitable. Easier to point at shadowy figures pushing cultural Marxism.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @getaclue
  19. @jeff stryker

    diversity

    We’ve been over this. It’s just the blacks and certain Hispanics who commit crime to such an extent

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @jeff stryker
  20. @eah

    The saddest chart I’ve ever seen.

  21. Beautiful photo of My Grandma’s Old House.
    Very touching story.

    War Bird

    They took my culture.
    They took my name.
    She-devil vulture
    Couldn’t steal my flame.

  22. Peter Akuleyev: “The right loves to talk about “moral degeneracy” but refuses to address the technological changes that have made developments like feminism and open homosexuality practically inevitable. Easier to point at shadowy figures pushing cultural Marxism.”

    I agree completely. It’s much easier to look under the bed for Jews, Freemasons, “globalists”, “hostile elites”, etc., than it is to look in the mirror. And more profitable! The conflict resulting from such societal turmoil has spawned a cottage industry, with a few people apparently making a very comfortable living from deploring it, and fighting for their side, whatever it is. But if at the bottom of it all is just a deterministic working of technological forces, what fun is that? Man likes to think he is in charge of technology, but it’s proving to be the other way around.

  23. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    None of this could’ve happened without a plan and cooperation from government.

    • Replies: @MAOWASAYALI
  24. eah: “Whites in these countries never directly voted in favor of such immigration laws, nor the resulting demographic transformation — in fact, at least in the US, people were assured it would not happen (after passage of Hart-Celler).”

    It seems you’ve missed the point. Maybe an analogy will help. Consider the development of automobile technology, which causes tens of thousands of death in motor vehicle accidents each year, just in the USA alone. There’s also many other consequences — paving over farmland for roads and parking lots, smog and diseases caused by air pollution, noise, environmental degradation, etc., but we don’t need to concern ourselves too closely with that for now. Let’s just suppose that when the automobile was developed, it was put to a vote whether to allow the invention or not. Given all the many benefits, would people have voted to allow the automobile, if the ballot measure stated that it would cost 50,000 lives each year? But of course, it wasn’t immediately foreseeable that that would be the consequence. And much like the assurances made to pass Hart-Celler, there were no doubt assurances made that harmful effects would be minimized, strong measures put in place to prevent them, etc. Yet even now that we know for a certainty it costs tens of thousands of lives annually we still want our cars. People vote for the technology and the societal changes it brings by using it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  25. anonymous[191]: “None of this could’ve happened without a plan and cooperation from government.”

    That’s a good argument for abolishing government. Shall we vote on it?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  26. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah

    He’s a Doctor in the Dr. Dre or Dr. Hook sense I am guessing.

    His idea that mass immigration is an inevitable result of technology is dumb. Mexicans have lived in Mexico, through worse miseries than today. The difference now is an elite and business class that has decided that enforcing the laws of the land is optional. The elite of America have decided they can make a quick buck selling out their people, and they’ve jumped at the opportunity.

  27. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    So what, specifically, are these technologies that made mass immigration ‘inevitable’.

    If elites WANTED TO, they could be using technologies to secure the border, but that is definitely not what they want to do. There is absolutely nothing inevitable about what has happened…nothing. It wasn’t something that just sort of accidentally happened. You can see at the early stages and you can see now that this is an issue of business and ideology, not an issue of technology.

    Mass immigration could’ve been stopped cold within a month at any point if the political will was there. It wasn’t.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  28. Anonymous[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @BengaliCanadianDude

    You are a racist Bengali man. If your views were publicly known in Canada, you would lose your Government job, you’d be flogged, and sent to a human rights tribunal.

    I wish you would leave my multicultural paradise and go back to your home. Make your own home great again. And leave Canada to the multicultural masses who built it… we have been working since 1969 -right from the beginning – to make Canada a place of goodness and multi hued harmony… and you just ruined it all with your racism. go away hater.

  29. Anonymous[147]: “Mass immigration could’ve been stopped cold within a month at any point if the political will was there. It wasn’t.”

    Ballot measure: Shall mass transportation technologies be developed and made available to all, yea or nay?

    Known in advance:

    1. Government is corrupt, and the people shortsighted.
    2. Such technologies will enable massive demographic change, possibly even our own racial extinction, and such change will be forestalled indefinitely if the technologies aren’t developed.
    3. If such technologies aren’t developed, many possible benefits will be lost.

    Yea or nay?

  30. @BengaliCanadianDude

    BENGALI

    Have you ever even set foot in the United States? Brampton is not even a border town. There are no Hispanics in Canada. Nor do you have a border problem because immigrants like your parents enter by airport and not by swimming over Lake Erie or Lake Ontario. No illegal immigrants attempt to enter Canada through the woods. You’d be caught. Instantly.

    You display a great deal of interest in the problems of the US but they are not the problems of Canada. Native Canadians commit the most street crime in Canada and organized crime gangs are mostly Sikhs with some Lebanese crime families and Afro-Caribbeans pimping the little white girls.

    The entire mosaic of crime is different in Canada.

    I don’t quite get it.

    But I will say this. Like many Canadians of whatever color, the US seems to fixate you. You speak about it as if it is your country and those are your problems. They aren’t. Hispanics won’t get into Canada. Neither will black Americans.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  31. @Anonymous

    147

    I’m an American from Michigan and can tell you Canada has a far different set of problems than the US. Night and day different.

    To begin with, your North is associated with poverty as oppose to the US South. The Canadian North is so poor it is nearly third world and Natives can be dangerous up there indeed. The crime problem in Canada is not black, it is Native and it is mostly in Northern Canada.

    Indians and Lebanese in the US have always been largely law-abiding. Canada has problems with Afro-Caribbean crime in major cities but Toronto is not Detroit or Baltimore.

    Sentencing in Canada is different. Poor whites in Canada who are lifetime petty criminals-little more than nuisances really-go through a revolving door in Canada whereas in the US they tend to get locked up faster and face far harsher sentences and leave prison as hardened criminals.

    Hispanic crime is almost unheard of in Canada.

    The US-Canadian border is locked down. Americans cannot cause much trouble in Canada. Even George Bush had to apply for a pardon to cross the border. Similarly, Canadians with any sort of criminal record cannot enter the US. There is no issue of criminal illegal immigrants from either country entering the other.

  32. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    If you’ll use the correct REPLY button — the one just to the left of the AGREE/DISAGREE button, right here at the bottom of my comment — your response will appear in an email sent to that commenter, like the one you’ve received with this. If you want to be seen as arguing, but hope to minimize engagement, don’t change a thing.

    RSVP

  33. @Anonymous

    Some technologies that made immigration if not inevitable at least harder to control:

    1. Internet – it is much easier for immigrants to learn about opportunities in the US, figure out travel routes, learn how to make their case for asylum, etc.etc.

    2. Shift to the service industry- immigrants were not skilled enough to take most of the factory jobs that existed in the US in the 1950s, and in any case US corporations mostly just moved their factories to Mexico in the 1980s. farm work attracted some immigrants but that is tough work and seasonal. The shift to the service sector created a huge demand for precisely the type of low skilled, obedient labor that immigrants provide.

    3. Destruction of labor unions – globalization, computers and robots have all helped destroy labor unions, and labor unions were traditionally the strongest constituency against uncontrolled immigration. Both the GOP and the Dems have a vested interest in allowing more immigrants into the country.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  34. @anonymous

    Yep. And it all started with the fake Gulf of Tonkin Incident in 1964 which even the Jews at Wikipedia now admit was a false flag. Don’t believe Wikipedia?

    How about the United States Secretary of Defense at the time, Robert McNamara, when he says the Vietnamese attack never happened?

  35. @Peter Akuleyev

    PETER

    1. Internet has made everyone in the world desire the standard of living a Finn has and given them the GPS ability to get there.

    2. In college I worked both farm labor jobs and waiting on tables-the latter is much more desirous. I can assure you. Being a waiter ensures that you will get tips, free food and sometimes laid if you are a male. If immigrants could only do farm labor, less of them would show up, believe me.

    3. Unions were highly corrupted by the mafia at their height. Jimmy Hoffa, for example. Destroying the unions had the beneficial action of decimating the Italian-American mafia. Other than that, it was a bad thing. What is strange about moving auto factories to Mexico is that it did little to reduce their poverty, while doing much to reduce the poverty of China.

  36. @eah

    EAH

    Australia, Canada and New Zealand have received even more immigration than the US but it does not seem to have wrought the same degree of ill-effects from the MS-13 roaming Long Island with machetes up to the IT workers committing suicide because Indians transformed Silicone Valley into their own personal caste system.

    What is the difference between immigration to say, Sydney, and New York?

    • Replies: @eah
  37. Tsigantes says:

    A wonderful piece to follow all your superb writings. Thank you from Athens!

  38. anonymous[340]: “If you’ll use the correct REPLY button …”

    Thanks for your helpful advice, but you only can use (or even see) the buttons if you enable Java, which isn’t a good idea from a privacy standpoint.

    I don’t really care if anyone responds to my remarks. Most here appear to be people who are stuck in a certain worldview, and because of this will never get it no matter how many times the situation is explained to them. Occasionally though, interesting things are said.

    • LOL: eah
  39. eah says:
    @jeff stryker

    You should ask Fraser Anning if immigration has caused problems in Australia.

  40. @jeff stryker

    llegal immigrants from either country entering the other

    Have you been living in a cave for the last 2 years, when all those illegals started coming through Quebec…? Our border is not as secure as you think

  41. @Anonymous

    Are you Truth? Only Truth talks that way. Or are you just another troll account? I don’t nor have I ever worked in civil service. It’s a comfy job, and you’ve got all the job security that you could ever desire, but that was never suited to my tastes. My views are known, and I’m still doing just fine

    • Replies: @Truth
  42. @jeff stryker

    Brampton is not even a border town

    I didn’t say it was….? Again with Brampton. I am NOT from Brampton.

    I was commenting on the issues in the United States. Here the blacks DO commit crime and YES they commit it a far greater rate than other groups.

    Lebanese crime families

    Wrooong. This is not Australia.

    Nor do you have a border problem because immigrants

    Oh yes yes we do. We’re currently putting them up in Raddisons and they cross by Quebec.

    Have you ever even set foot in the United States?

    I’ve answered this question before…yes I have. Like many other Canadians of whatever colour, many times. For both business, and sightseeing

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  43. Peter Akuleyev: “Some technologies that made immigration if not inevitable at least harder to control…”

    Internet, change to service industry, collapse of unions are all downstream of still more basic technology. They don’t make a difference if people don’t have the ability to move masses from one continent to another. So mass transportation technologies underlie all the social problems wrt race relations. Without them in all likelihood there would be no problems.

    The various human races co-existed for thousands of years on planet Earth because of geographic barriers, isolating each in its own territory. Technological innovation tore those barriers down. With the barriers down and races mingling freely, discrete human races and discrete cultures are doomed.

    Was it all inevitable? I’d say so, since I’m a determinist, and for me, the fact that something has happened means that it had to happen. For believers in “free will”, it’s hard to know what to say. That strikes me as a very primitive way of thinking that doesn’t (and in principle can’t) recognize any kind of causal necessity in human actions. Even appealing to quantum theory and parallel universes doesn’t seem to help much, because what difference does it make if there is another planet Earth somewhere else with people differently constituted (they’d have to be) who remain separated even though they have the technological ability to mix? Such a conception could leave the will in some theoretical sense free, I suppose, but it wouldn’t change things for us and our own past.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  44. fish says:
    @jeff stryker

    Yet people don’t notice.

    Sure they do. They’re learning to be like the rest of the world and keeping their heads down. The phones just make it less awkward!

  45. fish says:
    @Linh Dinh

    I’ll take this opportunity to pull you away from Mr. Stryker and tell you….in the past I had been dismissive of your offerings here at unz.com.

    I find though that the more I read the better I like you!

    Hat tip!

  46. getaclue says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    BS–The Frankfurt School Communists clearly have had an incredible effect changing the USA, for much worse, since they were allowed here in the 1940’s and very much of the Identity Politics and “hate whitey” propaganda springs from them and their spawn…anyone saying otherwise is lying or has never researched them and what they did and set in motion….They are not “shadowy figures” for anyone who looks all of it is there to be understood–the fact the Globalist Media lies about it doesn’t make it “shadowy figures”– Likewise George Soros is not a “shadowy figure” and the damage he has done and is doing is not because of “technological changes” –it’s about the use of massinve infusions of money, Communists working together, and massive lies –all to destroy Western Civilization and to bring about a NWO One World Government….

  47. @BengaliCanadianDude

    BENGALI

    Native crime is more of a persistent problem in Canada. Especially Northern Canada. People here would be surprised to know just how squalid and third-world poor Northern Ontario is. But Native crime is disorganized and petty, generally involving assaults or panhandling or muggings.

    Jamaican crime is really most common in the urban centers like Toronto. Compared to the US, it is small and only exists in a few pockets of major cities. It mostly consists of drug-related crimes and pimping of naive white girls.

    Sikhs and Tamils have the most serious street gangs. Organized, armed and ruthless. Unlike the Jamaicans or Natives, they were founded as financing for revolutionaries like Khalistan or Tamil Tiger freedom fighters but as those movements faded away the gang structure remained the same in Canada.

    A few white Biker gangs have a fearsome reputation in Canada, especially in Quebec. Biker-related crime is worse in Canada than in the US.

    As for you personally, you may have mentioned Scarborough. I forgot. And strangely, there is no border culture in Canada like Southwest US. Windsor has no American presence. Neither does Sarnia.

    While Indians and Asians seem to want to immigrate from Canada to the US, white Canadians show very little inclination to do so. Those that do are mostly in niche professions and it is all perfectly legal. However porous the Canadian-US border, very few white Canadians attempt to immigrate illegally. To the extent that there ever was drug activity along the border, it involved marijuana dealers. And yet again, the Punjabi gangs took over this business from mellow aging white hippies.

    I personally worked in North Bay, ON for a short time. Because I regard everyone on this site as a potential nutcase as I am sure you do and would cross the street to avoid them, I am reluctant to say much more than that.

    However, I will say that the OPP pulled me over several times due to my US plates. My car was an old clunker. They ran my license to determine I had no warrants. They also forced me to disclose where I worked in order to determine that I had money to live. However, they did not ask to see proof of a work visa, strangely enough.

    When I was in Ontario I never once saw a single Hispanic.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  48. @jeff stryker

    I mean yeah. You won’t see any Hispanics in North Bay. That’s just self explanatory.

    The Italian Mafia still has a sustaining presence in Quebec, namely in Montreal, and indictments are still being handed out to high ranking capos and mafiosos. Montreal itself is notorious for being a hotspot of open-air corruption that can be seen with any naked, untrained eye, and noticed by any soul with a brain. Their scams are mostly in construction, and I’m quite certain they have connections (or even total control, de facto, de jure, whatever) inside of the plethora of unions in that industry in particular( and even others I would presume). As they say, you’ll know when you’ve crossed the Ontario-Quebec border from the condition of the roads(tangent, but it’s true). Point being, the Italian mobsters do have their rackets, and yes, while them and their affiliates may have legitimized, that is not to say their racketeering has completely dissipated.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  49. @BengaliCanadianDude

    BENGALI

    I never saw any Hispanics in Canada period. You would think they would be planting trees in Northern Canada as this is backbreaking awful work, but no.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  50. Excellent piece. And how little we Americans know of the hardships that the Vietnamese have had to endure in leaving their country. And how so many left loved ones behind, never to see them again. One can only imagine the sadness.

    • Replies: @MAOWASAYALI
  51. @jeff stryker

    The infrastructure is crumbling. Violence in cities like Chicago is horrendous. Cartels are practically running New Mexico. Its a police state. Wars in Afghanistan have gone on forever. Forty year old middle class people live at home.

    Go to YouTube and listen to Prof. Werner. After quite a short listen you will understand how and why it happens.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  52. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    The population explosion of non-whites and the relative decline of whites is tied to technological developments such as the Green Revolution, and the development of scientific birth control,

    This is a fairly small part of the cause. There are two major causes:

    First the political and economic standard of life in much of the 3rd World has been wrecked by the CIA, the US Military and NATO, making many of the inhabitants of these lands think it worth while to migrate to the US and Europe.

    The 2nd is the desire of the Big Capitalists of the First World to have an abundant source of labour to keep wages down.

    There is also a possible third cause: A zionist plot to undermine Christian civilisation. It sounds improbable but the evidence is mounting up.

  53. @Prester John

    Now that the Gulf of Tonkin Incident has been declassified as a false flag–see my above post–why not sue for reparations?

    If the Blacks can sue for reparations for being enslaved 200 years ago, why can’t the Yellows sue for reparations for being napalmed as recently as 50 years ago?

    Which is worse? Being enslaved or being napalmed?

    In any event, all the Blacks who were enslaved in America have long since died, while many of those who were napalmed in Vietnam are still alive today, like Phan Thị Kim Phúc aka “Napalm Girl”:

    P.S.

    It’s a rhetorical question cause I know ((Whitey))) will never allow a high-profile lawsuit that would expose the real villains and profiteers of the Vietnam War.

    • Replies: @Cowboy
    , @Jacques Sheete
  54. foolisholdman: “This is a fairly small part of the cause. There are two major causes:…”

    What are regarded as the real or primary causes depends where you want to start in a causal chain that runs back to infinity. While I would to an extent agree with what you say here, a critic might reply that, especially wrt your second cause, that if the white population hadn’t artificially restricted itself by the invention and use of scientific birth control, it would be much larger by now; and likewise, if the Green Revolution hadn’t enabled a population explosion in non-white countries, they might have no surplus labor to send. As for your third cause, it was precisely Christian morality that dictated giving the benefit of Green Revolution technology to non-whites. By setting up the conditions for its own decline, Christian civilization has undermined itself. Underlying your first cause is the white world’s need for natural resources to run what has now become a culture highly dependent on advanced technology. But all the causes you cite seem secondary to me.

    If looking for primary causes, what I wrote above in #43 remains indisputable. If the technologies of mass transportation (airplanes, motor vehicles, trains, trans-ocean ships, etc.) didn’t exist, the major races would in all likelihood remain separated indefinitely. Before these technologies were invented and refined, geographic barriers (oceans, deserts, steppes, etc.) prevented large-scale race mixture. It was the purpose of the inventions to tear those barriers down, and now we’re living out the consequences. It’s true that nobody foresaw that that would be a possible and even a likely result, but that’s how it is with technology. It always has side effects, most of them bad, and some disastrous. I suggest a suitable epitaph for the white race to have etched on its tombstone would be “Oops!”

  55. With all respect for your always engaging witness, Linh Dinh, and your characteristic careful handling of language, I write to take exception to your oxymoronic phrase “rootless provincials.” A “provincial” is someone who is innately, deeply grounded in the specific details of a particular locale and community (a “province”). There is no one more “rooted,” inherently, by nature, than a true provincial. And an uprooted provincial — an exile, a refugee, a lifelong transient — is not properly speaking a provincial at all, but rather, a “displaced person.” “Provincial” is often used as a pejorative, being regarded as a term for a bumpkin, a hick, a rural ignoramus — as contrasted (in this view) with an urban, cosmopolitan sophisticate. But American poet Kenneth Rexroth reminds us that there is no place so “provincial,” in the pejorative sense of locally narrow-minded, fixated on one spot and one view, that the denizens of a major metropoles, who typically suffer from the “provincialism of the capital,” in his phrase. There is no more narrow-minded sensibility, in the FRAME of its views, than the closely localized tight-focused viewpoint, self-conceived as elevated, of the average New Yorker. Nothing is so blinding as thinking you live at the center of the universe. The Greeks called it hubris. Moreover, since such people dwell in placeless places, among anonymous transient non-communal populations always in flux, there is no one less rooted in the earth or in the cosmos. This accounts for the cosmopolite’s typical ignorant disdain for nature, for ecology, and his typical willingness to see the entire planet destroyed for the purpose of (“creative destruction”) turning it into numbers on somebody’s ledger. As Rexroth’s friend and protege Gary Snyder pointed out several decades ago, and as his friend Wendell Berry has been articulating ever since, what we need most of all to do now, for our planet, for our humanity, for our selves and our loved ones, is to begin to re-settle our specific provinces and cultivate our communities in awareness of and respect for our natural rootedness in place. Capital, it goes without saying — which is why it need saying — hates this idea. Capital wants people as interchangeable disposable labor parts and it wants the entirety of the planet and of nature at its disposal, too. Hence our present deracinated condition — which is neither provincial nor decently animal nor truly human.

  56. The writing is exceptional. It’s hard to give sentiment its due without being sentimental. How much of this subtlety is conscious practiced skill, and how much comes naturally?

  57. Cowboy [AKA "Kartoffelstampfer"] says:
    @MAOWASAYALI

    The reality here is that in the USA, Narrative crushes Truth. Just try to convince a flag waving boomer today, the 4th of July, that the US deliberately started the Vietnam war. Good luck.

    Virtually the entire planet is enslaved by ZOG. All roads for reparations lead to Jerusalem, the new world capital of Eretz Israel. Jarrod and Jahael Kushner are its king and queen. Long live the king.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  58. @jeff stryker

    Poor whites in Canada who are lifetime petty criminals-little more than nuisances really-go through a revolving door in Canada

    So “Trailer Park Boys” is pretty accurate?

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  59. @Cowboy

    Considering how many boomers protested the war in Vietnam and evaded the draft I think many of them would agree that the war was started by the US.

  60. @Peter Akuleyev

    PETER

    Yes, but not to quite a same degree as the US. They aren’t as unfettered and have access to more community resources. There is not the evangelical religious streak to poor Canadian whites-if they get pregnant they get abortions. College and trade school is government subsidized in Canada. And also, immigrants are not taking their jobs. Canada does not have a contiguous border with a Third World country. And the urban white underclass or poorer whites in general in Canada are not in harm’s way of Mestizos or ghetto thugs. Public schools are not as dangerous for Canadian whites. Property values are not as affected by urban blight. There is no white flight.

    • Agree: BengaliCanadianDude
    • Replies: @jimmyriddle
  61. @J. Alfred Powell

    I like this take on “provincial” vs “urban”.

  62. Vortex23 says:

    Another excellent article by the incomparable Linh Dinh. And this time with some weird synchronicity as I had sent a photo just yesterday of Thich Quang Duc’s self-immolation to a friend on the west coast, it figured into a discussion we were having on Zen Buddhism. The revelation of Duc’s flame-proof heart adds another dimension.

  63. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @J. Alfred Powell

    No, his pairing of the words is apt.

    “I finish this article in a café, Góc Nhỏ [Little Corner], where at least half of the clients are fixated to their smart phone, so Vietnamese, too, are becoming rootless provincials. In more advanced societies, though, this deracination is much more pervasive and maybe even terminal. Ignoring their neighbors’ stories, billions have become addicted to an infinity of false news, images, sounds and sensations.”

    Their “province” has become that glowing handful of homogenized, synthetic crap.

  64. Emslander says:

    I very much enjoy your writing. I live in a small old town in Midwestern US and am reading you on my iPhone 5C. I wake up every morning and read many things I wouldn’t have available to me in a morning paper, which I used to read every morning with coffee. Not all is so bad, but I do wish people did not cut down the abundance of peach and apple trees in their yards. They are too lazy or stupid to enjoy God’s gifts to them. They’d rather buy manufactured peaches at the local supermarket.

  65. Alfred says:
    @Brabantian

    Where one can feel nostalgia even in places not one’s own

    I am currently in Odessa, Ukraine. I have never been to a place where the pavements (sidewalks) are so decrepit. The buildings in the centre are almost all over 140 years old. Magnificent buildings that show the wealth of this place prior to 1917.

    Sadly, very little maintenance seems to have been done since the Bolsheviks took over. The ironic thing of course is that Odessa was a largely Jewish enclave – and they owned most of these wonderful properties. It was their wealthy that went up in smoke.

    The apartment I am occupying has ceilings almost 5m high (15′). It is actually a part of a huge communal apartment. The middle class really knew how to live in those days. I enter via the “servants’ entrance” – a wide broken marble staircase.

    If ever a city needed a little bit of “gentrification”, this is it.

  66. @jeff stryker

    Yet people don’t notice.

    Musn’t disturb an infant’s comfort, ya know!

  67. headrick says:

    As night follows day, this are of being plugged into the Borg will end. Maybe war , maybe a volcano, a severe depression, some sever drought or famine, some civil insurrection, — we will return to the world of alley oop.

  68. @J. Alfred Powell

    oxymoronic phrase “rootless provincials”

    Arrrrgggghhh!

    It’s ironic, not oxymoronic.

  69. @MAOWASAYALI

    This is an age of progress, and ours is a progressive land. A great and glorious land, too — a land which has developed a Washington, a Franklin, a William M. Tweed, a Longfellow, a Motley, a Jay Gould, a Samuel C. Pomeroy, a recent Congress which has never had its equal (in some respects), and a United States Army which conquered sixty Indians in eight months by tiring them out — which is much better than uncivilized slaughter, God knows.

    We have a criminal jury system which is superior to any in the world; and its efficiency is only marred by the difficulty of finding twelve men every day who don’t know anything and can’t read. And I may observe that we have an insanity plea that would have saved Cain.

    I think I can say, and say with pride, that we have some legislatures that bring higher prices than any in the world.

    -Mark Twain, Address delivered 4 July 1899, London, England

  70. Corvinus says:
    @Escher

    “Cellphones are the delivery devices for the opium that keeps us sedated.”

    In the same vein as commenting on blogs? Listen, technology is a tool best dealt with in moderation. The fact of the matter is that the Vietnamese are not these “rootless provincials” as the author makes them appear; rather, they are enjoying themselves with real news and entertainment on a beautiful day. Just like white people 🙂

    “If you are always looking down into these devices, you are not looking up at the madness around you.”

    Actually, life is not as gloomy as you make it out to be.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  71. Corvinus says:
    @J. Alfred Powell

    “As Rexroth’s friend and protege Gary Snyder pointed out several decades ago, and as his friend Wendell Berry has been articulating ever since, what we need most of all to do now, for our planet, for our humanity, for our selves and our loved ones, is to begin to re-settle our specific provinces and cultivate our communities in awareness of and respect for our natural rootedness in place.”

    Perhaps that is what is taking place, just not in the way that you prefer.

  72. Thim says:
    @jeff stryker

    Exactly 100% of the homeless know not to go to the shelters. Outside the shelters is very dangerous too. Gangs of blacks work those areas, beating and killing the white homeless. The cops dont even care.

    • Replies: @awry
    , @jeff stryker
  73. Truth says:
    @BengaliCanadianDude

    I’m going to have to say “not” here, Benji.

  74. awry says:
    @Thim

    Gangs of blacks work those areas, beating and killing the white homeless.

    The white homeless are enjoying their privilege I guess.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  75. @Thim

    In the film CLOCKWORK ORANGE the young assailants and elderly homeless victims were both white. There was no racial element to the killing.

    Clinton my acquaintance in the Philippines was not homeless for very long before he managed to liquidate and move to the Philippines.

    But he had the look of a man who witnessed madness during the few weeks he had been in shelters and parks.

    He was considered himself lucky to be in the Philippines living in a beach hut.

  76. @awry

    AWRY

    CLOCKWORK ORANGE had that part of the future right. Older unemployed homeless people preyed upon by the youth. What Kubrick did not foresee was the racial conflict that makes such a situation for an older homeless white person even worse.

  77. ricpic says:

    Actually, there used to be both trains and train whistles on Manhattan’s westside before it got gentrified. For those pioneers who lived in cold water flats in the meatpacking district in those days (well into the 1980’s) the music of box cars was a compensation.

  78. @Corvinus

    Actually, life is not as gloomy as you make it out to be.

    No wonder the opium that keeps us sedated is in such high demand!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  79. Corvinus says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    “No wonder the opium that keeps us sedated is in such high demand!”

    No doubt that your brand is of the Chicken Little variety.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  80. @J. Alfred Powell

    You’ve made some excellent points, particularly this one at the very end of your post:

    Capital wants people as interchangeable disposable labor parts and it wants the entirety of the planet and of nature at its disposal, too. Hence our present deracinated condition — which is neither provincial nor decently animal nor truly human.

    I would only add that that was precisely why the (((rootless cosmopolitans))) who control the Capital started the god damned war in the first place.

    Arguably, the raison d’être of all the recent wars in living memory is to displace and deracinate people in order to expand and prop up the Jewish Ponzi scheme known as the Federal Reserve System.

    If the rootless cosmopolitans can’t bring usury to the 3rd-world, they’ll bring the 3rd-worlders to usury in the 1st-world.

    But in the case of Vietnam, it was a double whammy for the Jews: Vietnam is thoroughly 100% Capitalistic, perhaps even more so than the U.S.A. today, and the Vietnamese immigrants in the U.S. are by and large non-violent and law-abiding taxpayers and consumers.

    “Rootless Provincials”–whether or not Mr. Dinh is conscious of it– is just another way of saying we have all become Jewified, if not exactly Jews, even in faraway tropical Saigon.

    Of course, the major difference between (((rootless cosmopolitans))) and “rootless provincials” is that the former is the master and the latter is the slave.

    Rootless cosmopolitans control the Capital and rootless provincials control nothing.

  81. @Corvinus

    No doubt that your brand is of the Chicken Little variety.

    Cluck, cluck!

    I believe you just laid an unfertilzed egg, Crow Baby!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  82. Kamazi says:

    Very nice! I enjoy your articles. I’m an American expat who was involve in Central Amrican wars of the 1980’s now living in El Salvador for the past 16 years. I been to Asia Africa Europe, South Americ and find it amazing to see how much people around the world have in common while affirming that they are so different Thank you

  83. Corvinus says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    “Cluck, cluck! I believe you just laid an unfertilzed egg, Crow Baby!”

    Sweetie, I’m not the one who thinks the sky is falling. The fact of the matter is that things are not as bad as you think they are, nor are they worse. But if you want to put the needle between your feet to feel that rush, go right ahead.

    • Replies: @Anon
  84. @jeff stryker

    There’s some in East Toronto. And some in Regent Park and the other metro housing spots

  85. Michelle says:
    @Escher

    During our local, beloved, 4th of July Parade today one of my favorite Spanish/Mexican horse riders was concentrated on his cell phone. Riding whilst texting.

  86. I spent a good portion of my childhood in Rocky Mount. It was the birthplace of Hardee’s, and the corporate headquarters was still there at the time I lived there. As a kid I always found it odd that our town had several Hardee’s before we had a single McDonalds. The original Hardee’s restaurant is actually a run-down shack next to the train tracks going through downtown.

    • Replies: @Biff
  87. Sunshine says:

    Mr Dinh, love your articles and always look forward to them. If you’re ever back in NC, try to stop in at Smithfield’s Chicken N BBQ. Nothing beats it! There’s a few around NC, they’re absolutely delicious. Nobody does park better than Southeastern NC!

  88. Anonymous[548] • Disclaimer says:

    My mother liked to outsource mothering.

    Sounds like many African societies.

    …for Vietnamese can impose normalcy on just about any situation.

    I presume this is a characteristic of many poor and gregarious societies

    In more advanced societies, though, this deracination is much more pervasive and maybe even terminal.

    This trend is picking up speed and as the piece alludes to,

    When this onslaught constitutes everything you know, withdrawal may be impossible.

    Which leaves me wondering as to the type of humanoids our societies are wittingly producing by the millions.

    Mr. Dinh, each of your articles is such a joy to read and every single one contains what I consider to be real literary gems. Hard to believe you have the kind of modest background that you describe. Always looking forward to reading more of your writings.

  89. Hi Linh Dinh,

    your writing made me feel less alone many times already.Thanks for that.

  90. Biff says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    The original Hardee’s restaurant is actually a run-down shack next to the train tracks going through downtown.

    What town would that be if you don’t mind?

    • Replies: @awry
  91. awry says:
    @Biff

    N_95_4_597 Hardees #1 Rocky Mount, NC, 1980's

    This one? I thought you are talking about Rocky Mount what town would that be then?
    Hardee’s founder, Wilber Hardee, opened his first restaurant in Greenville, North Carolina, on September 3, 1960 (quoute from Wikipedia). De he mean that by “original Hardee’s”?

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
  92. @awry

    The first Hardee’s proper was located in Rocky Mount, which is the one I was referring to. I saw from the Wikipedia article that it’s since been demolished. I also saw from that’s article that Jim Gardner was one of the co-founders. I remember he also owned a chain of barbecue restaurants and was sort of the local big wig political figure in that neck of the state.

    • Replies: @David Martin
  93. Adûnâi says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “Technological innovation tore those barriers down. With the barriers down and races mingling freely, discrete human races and discrete cultures are doomed.”

    I never understood this position. Hadn’t it be for the Christian axiology, the White race would have cleansed all of Africa, Asia and America of the non-White nations as early as in the 1890s. Or for sure in the 1950s, with the advent of atomic weapons.

    Why do you focus so firmly on the technologies failing to see it as a tool Whites have used as they have seen fit? The problem is not the technology, it is purely the axiology. Technology only allowed the HIV to transition into the AIDS.

    But for all I care, it’s only for the better. Better to deal with this menace sooner than later. Europe had little hope in 317, even less in 732 and 800 (when the Franks failed to kill the Church). The French, industrial and green revolutions do not change that.

    In short, I disagree with your pessimism concerning technology. Unless you mean the revolutionary phenotype as JF Gariépy sees it.

  94. Adûnâi: “Why do you focus so firmly on the technologies failing to see it as a tool Whites have used as they have seen fit? ”

    As I said above, the idea that it’s “just a tool” misunderstands the nature of technology and the changes it brings. It neglects to consider that in the use of the tool, the side effects are often more significant than the main, intended effect. In Mr. Dinh’s example above, social anomie caused by the smartphone wasn’t the point of the device. Nor did whites consciously decide, using scientific birth control and the technologies of the Green Revolution, to set up the conditions for their own racial extinction. One could go on indefinitely with this — the point of the invention of the motor vehicle wasn’t to produce air pollution; the point of agriculture isn’t to produce soil erosion … and forth.

    Further, you seem to be very much in the “free will”/man is a special creation camp (basically a Biblical point of view), and as I said above, I’m a determinist, so I believe free will is an illusion. I’m also a Darwinist who believes man is just another animal, subject to the same laws. This means that though our consciousness makes it seem otherwise, humans are really no more free in their actions than any other animal. It’s hard for you and I to communicate because of this difference in worldview. Therefore, when you say something like “whites could have” done this, that, or the other thing, it makes no sense to me. They had what they thought were very good reasons for not doing it, or in effect had no choice. Or to use your example of Africa, they didn’t do it then for the same reason they’re not doing it now. While it is logically true that they could throw off Christian morality, it isn’t true in practice; or as Schopenhauer put it, man is free to do whatever he wants, but he is not free to want whatever he wants. For the time being, whites want Christian morality. You can try to reason them out of it (e.g., with Taylor-style gradualism), but that’s had a very poor record of success, to put it mildly. It could be time to try a new approach.

    • Replies: @Carl the Cuck
    , @Adûnâi
  95. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    > Nor did whites consciously decide, using scientific birth control and the technologies of the Green Revolution, to set up the conditions for their own racial extinction.

    I think that the Chinese example invalidates your hypothesis. They have all the technology of Aryans: mass transportation, birth control (one-child policy) etc., but are not headed for extinction and do not race-mix.

    So the problem is not in technology, but in value systems (axiology) or maybe race’s genetic proclivities to specific value systems.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  96. Carl the Cuck: “I think that the Chinese example invalidates your hypothesis. They have all the technology of Aryans: mass transportation, birth control (one-child policy) etc., but are not headed for extinction and do not race-mix.”

    The Chinese have no history of importing huge numbers of slaves of an alien race, as unfortunately happened in the Americas, and don’t have a labor shortage, so they have no need of immigrants. I also think that if they were forced to choose between race preservation and success, in whatever context (wealth, victory in war, etc.) they would put success over race, just as whites have done. Indeed, that is what the record shows. Note that they are trying to assimilate their minorities as a policy of government, just as in the Western world. They are “re-educating” the Uighurs, trying to assimilate them, and trying to absorb (and push out) the Tibetans. Recently, because of trade relations, they also have allowed large populations of Africans to reside among them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africans_in_Guangzhou

    All of these things show that they have other priorities than race and culture preservation. Just as in the West, the desire to make society run smoothly will lead to race mixing; the desire for wealth will lead to contact with other races, economic relations, and finally genetic mixture with them. The difference between China and the West in this regard is merely a matter aof degree. The West, having been the world’s technological center for much longer, is much further along this path. The goal of the technological system is efficiency, not preserving any particular race or culture.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  97. lysias says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You can refuse to participate in technological developments. Never mind a smartphone, I have never had a cellphone.

  98. lysias: “You can refuse to participate in technological developments. Never mind a smartphone, I have never had a cellphone.”

    True, but misses the point. The side effects of technological development affect me even if I don’t personally indulge. E.g., smog and noise pollution affect me even if I don’t have a car; social anomie affects me even if I don’t have a smartphone; racial and cultural changes due to demographic shifts affect me even if I as an individual did nothing to cause them; and so on.

  99. poop says:

    God bless you, Linh Dinh. I have been banned from the Unz Review by my wife, who is currently out of town, so after a few Pabst Blue Ribbons, I snuck a peek. Let me make this as concise as possible without sounding like some bullshit asskisser: You are quite possibly the most underrated, unheard-of, and important writers in the contemporary era.

    That you can somehow bring me to visualize your grandmother’s house in Vietnam, and connect it with my own memories of my grandmother, and simultaneously evoke the horrendous horrors of an imperial war is remarkable. You have a gift bestowed by God. Please continue to write when you can, as it is obviously not as easy or convenient for you in Vietnam as it is here in the states. Mad, mad respect for your recycling plant job that shows us you are a real fucking human and not some ivory tower piece of shit, giving the rest of us a golden shower of nonsense. Good on you to do both (write and work, not pee on our faces, if clarification was necessary), and do it well. That is what humans are supposed to be. You exemplify this and I, in a semi-drunken stupor, decided you needed to hear it, because even the forlorn artist needs some affirmation from time to time that his work is appreciated, in order to keep producing more.

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  100. @poop

    POOP

    Posts like yours make me grateful that my college sweetheart broke up with me and I had no reason to remain in the United States as a young man. No kids, no wife, no house mortgage.

    Otherwise, I could be the one stuck in Southeast Michigan somewhere drinking piss beer.

    • Troll: eah
  101. Anonymous[197] • Disclaimer says:

    Keep writing Linh. You are read and you do make a difference.

  102. Adûnâi says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “Further, you seem to be very much in the “free will”/man is a special creation camp (basically a Biblical point of view), and as I said above, I’m a determinist, so I believe free will is an illusion. ”

    So, you believe the Whites’ conversion to Christianity to have been unavoidable? That is pessimistic.

    Of course, there is something in the Aryan’s psyche that has failed him – see Buddhism in India. There is also the deep contradiction that I see between man as an animal and his newfound intelligence and introspection, his ability to commit suicide, his ability to hate all life. It is in our Nature to destroy Nature, and that is healthy, but can inspire Christianity as a side-effect.

    But I am an optimist and I disagree that the White man was born irredeemably defective, that the Jew is our perfect parasite. Because if it is so, or at least cannot be fought against, then all hope is lost, or worse yet, never existed to begin with.

    “Therefore, when you say something like “whites could have” done this, that, or the other thing, it makes no sense to me. They had what they thought were very good reasons for not doing it, or in effect had no choice.”

    Whites could have made a party that tried to curtail the destruction by technology. Oh wait, they did – namely, the NSDAP. Even the last anti-Christian emperor was born after 317.

    What I’m saying is that Whites could have denied Christianity in the 4th, 8th, 16th or 20th century, but chose not to. They could have mastered technology, for with the right axiology, it would have spelled certain doom for all non-White nations on Earth, and not at all led to any race-mixing – but under Christianity, it did provoke suicide. You can only see technology under Christianity, and you think it’s the only way.

    When you see a car, you see a Negro arriving in Finland. When I see a car, I see Whites arriving in Egypt in 1910 and genociding all the locals. We had the first shot.

  103. Adûnâi: “So, you believe the Whites’ conversion to Christianity to have been unavoidable? That is pessimistic.”

    You say pessimistic, I say just realistic. Of course, everyone thinks they are being realistic. You imagine things could have been otherwise, and you think that is realistic. But just because you can imagine something doesn’t mean it could actually exist. We can imagine human beings as caring more for preserving their race than they do for wealth or empire; caring for principle more than pleasure; being clever enough to invent a technology but never putting it into practice; but that doesn’t mean that such people exist, or even that they could exist. Human beings don’t exist in a vacuum. The game called life they are born into has rules; they have built-in desires and modes of consciousness. They are born, for example, with the false idea that they are not really their bodies. They think they are something religion calls a “soul”, and this false mode of consciousness easily gives rise to Christianity, with its corollary false idea of free will. Sloppy thinking like this has its advantages. Remember, if evolutionary theory is true, it doesn’t matter if an idea is true or false, only that it helps the organism succeed in the struggle for existence. White people built the technological system into a world empire using Christianity as an ideology and moral framework, but now they are suffering the racial consequences. All foreseeable, but not foreseen.

  104. The year was 1975, I think. The administration of NC Wesleyan College in Rocky Mount where I was teaching economics got the bright idea of awarding an honorary doctorate, even though it had no graduate program. It was to be a publicity stunt. They canvassed the faculty for candidate recommendations. I recommended Thelonious Monk, who was still alive at that time. It would have been great for race relations and would have brought favorable worldwide attention to the school, and the man surely deserved it. But, as it turned out, the fix was in and the polling of the faculty had been a sham. The college went in the opposite direction and awarded the degree to the chairman of its own board of trustees, local politician and land baron, Tom Pearsall. In the late 1950s, Pearsall had been the author of the proposed Pearsall Plan, which was to have been North Carolina’s response to the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education desegregation decision. Under that plan, the state would have provided vouchers to attendees of racially exclusive private schools. And it’s not like I came to the issue as some outside agitator. I grew up in a farm community some ten miles from the college. It was a huge lost opportunity for the college and a bitter experience for me, not the only one I had there. I left the next year.

    • Replies: @David Martin
  105. @Hapalong Cassidy

    The main co-founder of Hardee’s as a burger chain was Rocky Mount CPA Leonard Rawls. He bought out Wilbur Hardee after doing an audit of Hardee’s Greenville restaurant and recognizing the potential. Jim Gardner, of the Rocky Mount Gardner’s Dairy family, primarily provided the initial financing. Gardner later opened a Rocky Mount branch of Wilson, NC’s, very popular Parker’s Barbecue. Some year’s later, he changed the name to Gardner’s. I don’t know if there are any other Gardner’s restaurants, having long since moved away from the area. I do know that Rawls’s first Hardee’s on Church Street in Rocky Mount is demolished and Gardner’s on Wesleyan Drive (Rt. 301) is still going strong. So is Parker’s (also on 301) in Wilson.

  106. Clyde says:
    @foolisholdman

    The infrastructure is crumbling. Violence in cities like Chicago is horrendous. Cartels are practically running New Mexico. Its a police state. Wars in Afghanistan have gone on forever. Forty year old middle class people live at home.

    Go to YouTube and listen to Prof. Werner. After quite a short listen you will understand how and why it happens….City of London mouth piece David Buik gets a lesson in banking from Richard Werner and takes notes. For many years, we’ve….

  107. Clyde says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Recently, because of trade relations, they also have allowed large populations of Africans to reside among them.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africans_in_Guangzhou

    Sounds right to me. Any other reasons because it sounds like a bad idea to me. How do Africans ever support themselves in Guangzhou? Working in factories and construction?

  108. What books and blogs do you reccomend to read on the topic of technology?

  109. @David Martin

    I was writing from faulty memory about the Pearsall Plan. I was barely 13 years old when it was implemented. I see that there is a Wikipedia page. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearsall_Plan. Suffice it to say that it was hardly welcoming of the integration of North Carolina’s public schools. The Wikipedia page for Thelonious Monk shows how far more deserving of an honorary doctorate degree he was than Tom Pearsall, not to mention the salutary effect on race relations.

    • Replies: @eah
  110. eah says:
    @David Martin

    …the salutary effect on race relations.

    Are you trying to say that awarding an honorary doctorate to Thelonious Monk would have had a “salutary effect on race relations”? — I think the vast majority of Americans did not know much if anything about him (if they’d ever heard of him at all), and awarding him an honorary doctorate would not have made any difference whatsoever.

    But your web site is interesting.

    • Replies: @David Martin
  111. @eah

    I agree if we’re talking about the country overall. What I should have said was that awarding an honorary doctorate to Thelonious Monk would have been good for race relations locally, and especially for the college.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  112. Adûnâi: “When you see a car, you see a Negro arriving in Finland. When I see a car, I see Whites arriving in Egypt in 1910 and genociding all the locals. We had the first shot.”

    This doesn’t even engage my argument. In the context of your example, what I’ve said is that if the negroes had had no way to get to Finland, they wouldn’t be there, and this seems to me inarguable. In this way, technologies of mass transportation have proved in the real world to have been destructive to race: again, inarguable. I agree that in your imaginary world, they wouldn’t be, or even needn’t be. But back in the real world, a conquered race is useful for things other than fertilizer, and almost never have they been killed off completely, even in non-Christian societies. They have usually been assimilated into the conquering race — a racially destructive process for both parties.

    I think what you’re missing is the way that technology emerges from its substrate in biology. The struggle for survival and human nature determine how it will be employed. Moral justifications are just window dressing; facades.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  113. Adûnâi says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “In the context of your example, what I’ve said is that if the negroes had had no way to get to Finland, they wouldn’t be there, and this seems to me inarguable.”

    It is not. Because a non-Christian technological civilization would not have given Negroes access to their technology to begin with. And would have exterminated them in a short while, as predicted by Darwin.

    “I agree that in your imaginary world”

    The world without Christianity. It happened in a localized version in Germany.

    “The struggle for survival and human nature determine how it will be employed. ”

    No, they don’t. The White race does not struggle for survival. The reason is still unclear, but I blame Christianity first and foremost. You don’t have an issue with doing likewise when it’s about the 1860s America, but when it’s about more recent times, it’s suddenly technology. I fail to see the connection.

    “and almost never have they been killed off completely, even in non-Christian societies. They have usually been assimilated into the conquering race”

    There were different kinds of conquest in history. The conquest of Europe by Aryans, by Rome, by Mongols. Some were genocidal, others not. Some were empires, others loose confederations of savages.

    What is different now? Science. Knowledge of the world. Materialist philosophy that clearly states the supremacy of genetics in the genesis of culture. The issue is not technology – it would only have helped the extermination. The issue is that the idealist poison of Christianity seeped so deep into the Aryan soul that any hope for the materialist worldview was vanquished in 1945 under the double sign of Christianity and Bolshevism.

  114. Adûnâi: “It is not. Because a non-Christian technological civilization would not have given Negroes access to their technology to begin with. And would have exterminated them in a short while, as predicted by Darwin.”

    If you build a road between two regions separated by a geographic barrier, it allows traffic in both directions. That’s just reality. Such a road stretched between China and ancient, pre-Christian Rome, and over it passed considerable trade. In fact, as a practical matter in a technological civilization, the whole point of building a road to an otherwise inaccessible region is so that you can bring things back; things you think you need but don’t think you have enough of: gold, oil, slaves, etc. No road or other pathway, no trade between the two regions. No road, no race mixing. QED.

    Adûnâi: “And would have exterminated them in a short while, as predicted by Darwin.”

    Darwin said they would “almost certainly” be exterminated, not certainly. He underestimated the religious madness of white people. Strange, considering that he was from a family of abolitionists.

    Adûnâi: “The world without Christianity. It happened in a localized version in Germany.”

    Even Hitler was forced to pretend to be a Christian.

    Adûnâi: “The White race does not struggle for survival. ”

    According to Darwin, it does. It may be losing that struggle, but it’s still involved in one.

    Adûnâi: “There were different kinds of conquest in history. The conquest of Europe by Aryans, by Rome, by Mongols. Some were genocidal, others not. Some were empires, others loose confederations of savages.”

    Still, very few examples exist of a people being completely wiped out, and none of a whole race. Slaves were too useful. They’re a form of wealth, of booty, property of the conqueror by right of conquest. The females of the conquered race become fuck toys, as happened with the Sabine women in Roman history, and again with negro slave women in the Americas. With each orgasm, the conquerors can savor their conquest anew. Like I said, it’s human nature. Add to that the fact that the conquered males can be used as laborers to produce additional wealth or necessities of life, for example as happened in Sparta, and also in America, and that the additional wealth so generated can be used to procure weapons and armies, and you have a recipe for racial disaster. Furthermore, you have to do it; the struggle for survival will force this outcome, because if you don’t use slaves in this way, then your enemies that do will become wealthier than you, more powerful, and eventually overwhelm you. This is how, in the real world, human nature and the struggle for survival determine outcomes.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  115. Adûnâi says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    “the struggle for survival will force this outcome, because if you don’t use slaves in this way, then your enemies that do will become wealthier than you, more powerful, and eventually overwhelm you. This is how, in the real world, human nature and the struggle for survival determine outcomes.”

    I don’t deny it. But how does the industrial civilization relate to it? I say that its advances in sciences would have made race-mixing the highest taboo and race war the noblest goal in any non-Christian society. Industry would only have amplified the desire to healthy life in a population.

    But in our case, technology has amplified the death wish.

    You want to remove industry – then what? A return to pre-industrial society will not bar crude empires from spawning that can and will race-mix anyway. Too rotten to keep healthy values, yet not bright enough to develop racial science and fission weapons. Where’s a good future in that?

    Do you put all your hope on the hypothetical barbarians that will burn Rome time and time again? Our pre-industrial Rome ate a good chunk of Europe, mind you – and even all of central Germany might have been romanized and judaized. Mongols and Turks demolished all Aryan culture in Kazakhstan. Vikings interbred with Eskimos in Iceland. What would stop Aryans from perishing in a non-technological world? I posit that only the power of chemical and atomic bonds can assure the existence of the European race once and for all.

  116. @David Martin

    Thanks to eah I looked at your website and was pleased that I did, there’s lots of interesting and well written material there. I shall return to it when I have more time. I’d heard of DC Dave before and had no idea that it was you. Keep up the good work. Cheers

  117. Adûnâi: “But how does the industrial civilization relate to it?”

    Setting up mass transportation networks is a necessary precondition for race mixing on the grand scale.

    Adûnâi: “I say that its advances in sciences would have made race-mixing the highest taboo and race war the noblest goal in any non-Christian society. Industry would only have amplified the desire to healthy life in a population.”

    Maybe in an alternative reality somewhere, Darwin came earlier, and it did. But not in our world. In our world, the real one, the scientific conception of race came after the Industrial Revolution, not before it. The significance of race differences wasn’t appreciated until still later. It’s also questionable that scientific advances in themselves would have been enough. After all, the whole world now has access to the scientific view, and still no races have been forced into extinction.

    Adûnâi: “You want to remove industry – then what?”

    I haven’t said I want anything; nor am I urging any particular course of action. I’ve only analyzed the problem and given a solution. The permanent destruction of technological civilization, with its attendant reduction in world population to maybe 1% of what it is now, would indeed in my opinion induce the races to self-segregate once more, and restore the geographic barriers to race mixing that technological civilization tore down. Whether anyone thinks that is an important goal, or worth the cost, is another question entirely.

    Adûnâi: “A return to pre-industrial society will not bar crude empires from spawning that can and will race-mix anyway.”

    Geographic separation created the white race and preserved it for thousands of years. No reason to think it won’t work again.

    Adûnâi: “What would stop Aryans from perishing in a non-technological world? ”

    Only their will, and strong sword arms. Nobody can guarantee their success.

    Adûnâi: “I posit that only the power of chemical and atomic bonds can assure the existence of the European race once and for all.”

    I think anyone who wants to try a solution like that would need to become involved in politics, trying to create a mass movement and gain control of such weapons. If that happened, the resulting world war would probably end the technological system too. However, all efforts since 1945 in that direction have failed. But if people want to keep on trying and failing time after time, who am I to criticize? I’m just pointing out that destruction of technological civilization wouldn’t take a mass movement, and could lead to a similar result. It’s a different way, possibly more achievable. Of course, it would take a genius to do it, and if such a man exists, he won’t need any help from me. He’ll see it on his own.

  118. @eah

    the country has undergone demographic and social change that no one could have imagined, and

    Oh yes, it was well-imagined by the proponents of the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act. President Johnson signed it into law on Liberty Island in New York Harbor on October 3, 1965 and, that evening, it was celebrated across New York City as a great Jewish victory over the gentiles.

  119. @Carl the Cuck

    They have all the technology of Aryans: mass transportation, birth control (one-child policy) etc., but are not headed for extinction and do not race-mix.

    Don’t kid yourself. The Chinese are headed the exact same direction. The one child policy was reversed too late, and China is inexorably heading on a path of rapidly aging population. The Africans have already established beachheads in Guanghzou, while Chinese attempts to colonize resources in Africa are providing Black Africans to more exposure to the wonders they can find in China and easier ways to get to China.

    The Chinese are also rapidly losing their ancient script and language in favor of a slangy Mandarin with lots of English loan words and using pinyin as the default writing system, that will further encourage the degeneration of Chinese culture.

    Chinese men are importing brides from Vietnam, the Philippines and even Indonesia as fast as the planes will carry them (not to mention Russians). Chinese women in the West have no issues finding white husbands. It’s crazy to say Chinese don’t race mix.

  120. Peter Akuleyev: “Don’t kid yourself. The Chinese are headed the exact same direction. ”

    Good points, all. People on the racial right tend to exaggerate the racism of East Asians. But if you look at the record, they are as willing to race mix as whites. Chinese are famously acquisitive, and there’s no reason at all to think they’d choose preserving their race or culture over increasing their wealth and material well being. Certainly, their adoption of Communism, an import from the West derived from Christianity, as Spengler observed, testifies to their willingness to abandon the past and radically remake themselves as needed.

    • Replies: @Salvation Merchant
  121. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    > Certainly, their adoption of Communism, an import from the West derived from Christianity, /../ testifies to their willingness to abandon the past and radically remake themselves as needed.

    Is it always so one sided? Adoption of communism was an elite job, not massively accepted, financed from abroad an had to win a civil war.

    Is not “radical remaking” a society always an elite job? Otherwise it would not be radical, but gradual.

  122. Salvation Merchant: “Is not “radical remaking” a society always an elite job? Otherwise it would not be radical, but gradual.”

    I disagree with the point of view that sees history as the product of a conspiracy of a small number of people (i.e., elites) imposing their will on a resisting populace. Although there are always leaders, and there are always people who resist change (“cultural conservatives”), the average man shows his agreement with the changes by going along with them. My view is that, in the modern era especially, the primary driver of cultural change has been technological innovation, not conspiracies.

    • Replies: @Salvation Merchant
  123. Anon[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    But Corvy, you (and the light of your loins, Max Boot) think our president is a puppet of the vile Vladimir Putin! So how can you say things are not bad?!

    It seems, for you, a few billion TDS ameboids beat needles between the feet any day!

  124. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    > I disagree with the point of view that sees history as the product of a conspiracy of a small number of people (i.e., elites) imposing their will on a resisting populace

    It is not a conspiracy, it is the way human society works. The tiny percentage are leaders, an elite, and they define the framework for others. The average man does and believes what he is told by his superiors.

    Chinese communism especially was a foreign elite job and not a technologically induced phenomenon.

  125. Salvation Merchant: “Chinese communism especially was a foreign elite job and not a technologically induced phenomenon.”

    The idea that the average man is powerless and a puppet with no thoughts or desires of his own, having his strings pulled in every action by “elites”, and especially foreign elites, is conspiracy talk. I agree that human society is hierarchical, but that doesn’t deprive the majority of responsibility and moral agency. History is full of examples of peasant revolts and revolutions, and even the ascendance of Chinese communism could be characterized in that way. “The people” can stand up against tyranny whenever they want to. They just have to be willing to pay the price, but often they are not. When the average man goes along with change, he is in effect showing his approval of it; even more so if, as happened in the USA as well, he fights a civil war to establish it.

    As for its connection to the West and technology, Communism is a Western ideology derived from a Western religion that Mao would have had no idea about had not the technological system torn down the geographic barriers separating China and Europe. Mao studied Western thought extensively as a youth and, just as in Russia, a revolution was launched in an effort to modernize the country. Economies of scale inherent to technological solutions made collectivization seem the logical thing to do. As the results today show, with both China and Russia modernized and world powers, that thinking was not completely wrong.

  126. Conspiracy talk

    I have never heard that expression before. What does it mean?

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