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I’m sitting in a spacious bar, Love City, that was once a factory. Too slicked up, it’s not quite a ruin bar, of the kind you find in Budapest. The patrons are mostly hipsters and yuppies, but with a handful of Joe Sixpacks thrown in. Looking like contractors, they’re probably fixing properties in this rapidly gentrifying neighborhood.

On the way here, I spotted a few homeless lurking in the underpasses, beneath the Reading Railroad train trestle. Long disused, it’s being turned into a beautiful park, so soon enough, you’ll find the haves walking their dogs, jogging or sunning themselves above, with the have nots sleeping on dirty mattresses, or going to the toilet, below. They’ll probably all be shooed away. Problem solved.

After talking to three black men, a once-pretty white woman scrambled up an embankment. Reeking of urine, a groggy black dude asked me for change, as did a black lady waiting at a bus stop. A handful of tourists tittered outside the Edgar Allan Poe house.

Since a 20 oz. Love City Lager is a reasonable $5, I have one in front of me as I upload three photos, just taken in the neighborhood.

One is of a sign on a corner grocer’s door, “No Weapons Allowed / Detection Devices On Premise / Upon Detection/ Police Will Be Notified Immediately!” Beneath it is an ad for Newport, aimed at a black clientele, obviously, though you’re not supposed to notice that, since we’re all the same, remember? This is the kind of store that sells cigarettes, soft drinks, candies, potato chips, beef jerky, canned food and the only symbol of hope left for many Americans, lottery tickets.

The second photo is of a billboard, “OPIOID DETOX / GET CLEAN. / LEAVE PROTECTED,” with five white faces, and one black, all happy. Just three miles away, there are around 40 tents on sidewalks, occupied by homeless junkies, mostly white and under 35. I didn’t think Kensington could get worse, but it has.

The last is of graffiti on a long-abandoned factory, “FUCK A NAZI!”

Though it didn’t say, “FUCK A NAZI UP!” it still sounds hostile, but that’s English for you, for in this language, making love is constantly used to convey hate or calamity, as in, “I will fuck you up,” “He’s fucking with us” or “We’re fucked.”

With Trump installed, liberal, progressive Americans see Nazis everywhere, by which they mean all those who oppose having an open border, or who might identify as, God forbid, a nationalist, but a nation, by definition, can’t exist without borders or nationalists.

Believing in America shouldn’t equate to cheerleading her wars, however, and that’s where too many Joe Sixpacks have erred. In their bars, you’ll find all kinds of signs thanking soldiers and veterans, and the American flag everywhere.

A Joe Sixpack tavern accrues history organically, honors it and is grounded, like its patrons. A hipster/yuppie bar, on the other hand, is always divorced from its surroundings, and serves an anchorless crowd. Designed to make you feel au courant, it also leaves you restless, for you know that way cooler bars will appear soon, nearby. According to hipsters, the future, too, is always right around the corner, and history is just a hazy series of crimes and mistakes, to be condemned and flee from.

So hep, they identify themselves with a term from more than a century ago.

Me, I would rather get stupid in Friendly, Nickels’ or Fatsos, places where they joke about erections and blow jobs, but I’m at Love City because I’ll have to give a paid talk a few blocks away, in an hour.

At Friendly, a short, philosophical Honduran said to me, “My wife, she gives me pussy, right? But my mother,” he stared at me hard, “she gave me life!” Smiling triumphantly, Manuel gave me a fist bump, shook my hand.

After 30 years in the US, this former illegal immigrant’s English is still somewhat shaky, but you must give him much credit for doing his best to blend in. Manuel believes in a common culture.

At Fatsos, 65-year-old Rick yelled at another old head across the bar, “Would you like a blow job, Steve?”

“Sure.”

Turning to the slim, blonde, 35-year-old bartender with thick, stuck-on eyelashes, Rick petitioned, “Erin, will you take care of Steve for me? My mouth is full,” then he went back to scratching lottery tickets, on which he spends between 40 to 50 bucks a day. Each time Rick lost, he’d curse and toss the ticket onto the floor, behind the bar, for Erin to dispose of.

Nodding at me, Rick grinningly asked Erin, “Have you ever blown a Chinese guy?”

Flattering her, he then said, “Will you wipe your ass with this dollar and give it back to me?”

That kind of bantering, you won’t find at Love City, that’s for sure.

The title of my slide talk is “The Future is Asia.” Its main point, I have discussed in various essays, and it’s basically this: Nations that stress linguistic, cultural and/or ethnic unity will outlast those that don’t. Further, nations that shun their own heritage are as good as dead. For years, I have also stressed that the United States is ruled by a rootless, criminal cabal, and for pointing out something so obvious, I have had countless slurs hurled at me.

Whatever, man, I’m tired. As this ship sinks, wave that flag and snipe away!

Mellowed, I walk to my talk venue. A progressive institution, it no longer has men’s and women’s rooms, but two “All Gender” bathrooms, with only individual stalls, so that a 13-year-old girl, say, may find herself right next to me. As we do our business, we’d only be separated by a partition a good foot off the floor.

In Vietnam, they would find such an arrangement insane and felonious, but then it’s not as advanced as the US of A. The transgender spiel is a part of the campaign against masculinity. Castration is in.

As a toxic model, this criminal, decadent and deeply-confused nation can’t collapse soon enough. Americans, too, need a fresh start, though they may have to cease calling themselves American. It won’t matter much. It already doesn’t.

Linh Dinh’s latest books are Postcards from the End of America (non-fiction) and A Mere Rica (poetry). He maintains a regularly updated photo blog.

 
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  1. unit472 says:

    I would agree that the America of the neighborhood tavern is dying but would not characterize our political leadership as a ‘rootless, criminal cabal. Criminal they maybe but they are rooted in the Ivy League, principally Yale and Harvard, and the ideology to gain admission to those schools. I would say skills to gain entrance but, today, it is more a matter of ideology. Stray too far from the Clinton/Bush crony capitalist model or Obama’s identity politics and your application goes into the garbage can and with it your chance of joining our governing elite.

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    • Replies: @Chuck U Farley
    Some day you may wake up to reality son. We have the most evil criminal gangters that has ever existed in any national history. Pull your ass out of the sand.
    , @JohnnyWalker123

    I would agree that the America of the neighborhood tavern is dying
     
    Neighborhood taverns are dying out. Mostly because younger people are socially introverted and don't go out much. Even nightclubs, which used to get huge weekend crowds, are in serious decline. Going out on a weekend night (whether to a tavern, nightclub, HS football game, house party, or frat kegger) is something people under 30 just don't value much. Even during the day, you see remarkably few young people socializing in public spaces. For them, their smartphone is their primary social space.

    The tavern regulars, mentioned in this post, are remnants of the much more socially extroverted culture that existed from the late 60s through the early 90s.
    , @Swan Knight
    Rootless criminal cabal sounds right to me. I would add psychopathic
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  2. Castration is in, and the Rabbi applauds. Because heaven is never having straight sex
    again. Men eying women is so disgusting!

    Is Buddhism as degenerate as the Jew Testament?

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  3. TG says:

    Indeed. I would say this from a slightly different angle: forget about the details of politics: constitutional monarchy, parliamentary democracy, a republic, democratic socialism, even marxism, checks and balances, an independent judiciary, an independent central bank, a written constitution… all of these can be made to work, more or less, if the elites care about the nation as whole. And none of these will matter if the elites no longer care, if they value their own short-term profit over the long-term stability and strength of their nation.

    Back under FDR etc., the elites of this nation were worried about communists, and anarchists, and then Nazis. That made them care about this nation, they feared that if the nation went down they would go down as well. So they cared about the working class. I am old enough to remember when we used to celebrate that we had the highest wages in the world – that was considered a magnificent joint accomplishment and proof of the greatness of this nation. Now high American wages are routinely derided as evil, as proof that Americans are selfish and lazy and they need to be replaced by all those wonderful third-world refugees who have no alternative but to work for sub-poverty wages…

    I think the core of this rot is that the elites are no longer afraid. They no longer have reason to care. They live in gated estates, they fly from private airports (even first class in a public airport is not good enough/removed enough from the masses for them!), and if things fall apart they will just sail away in their yachts, tut-tutting about how Americans no longer deserve their presence…

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    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Dan
    Everything is financialized and the elites are supranational. End of story. Enjoy the little things.
    , @byrresheim
    Atlas shrugged?
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Exactly. America's leaders behave criminally because they're not scared of the population. So there's nothing to constrain our leaders from behaving like grifters and conmen.

    At some point, however, this will come to an end. Our massively skyrocketing national debt is totally unpayable, so investors will eventually stop buying our bonds. When that happens, our national economy and standard of living will collapse dramatically.

    It's at that point when our leaders are either put in jail or flee the country.
    , @JMcG
    Back under FDR the elites of this nation WERE communist.
    , @m___
    Elites are global, Americans are locals.
    , @Mike
    TG just a reality check.
    This nation was never intended to have elites. That is the reason for a federalist republic.
    No professional politicians, no state run schools and no illiterate voters.
    The downward spiral.
    ignorance of history and moral principals
    ignorance of the constitution
    Universal suffrage
    17th amendment direct voting for senators
    16 amendment direct taxation.
    Central bank with fractional reserve.
    and there with a dash of hubris you have the almighty US FEDGOV
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  4. you said it well linh,sad so few will get the point..but keep at it..we need your voice in the wilderness that the usa has become..and as someone who drove thru kensington,under the el with you…it was like being in a bosch painting of hell.

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  5. Da Wei says:

    Lin Dinh, thanks for another nicely written, on point piece of work. Your words and your montage of images meld together artfully.

    There’s poignancy, humor and then this: “United States … ruled by a rootless, criminal cabal” that can’t have much trouble ruling a “nation” without borders and without a core culture.

    People tripping over one another in stupor, peeing on themselves under the overpass and then the alcoves of new redemption, the cool places like Love City, presided over by the enlightened custodians of hip, who eschew even properly private public restrooms. Way to square, that. We’re all the same, anyway, so cultivate indifference to bourgeois prudence and neuter the world. Seek security in castration, that is, of others.

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  7. For years, I have also stressed that the United States is ruled by a rootless, criminal cabal, and for pointing out something so obvious, I have had countless slurs hurled at me

    Oh you brave, brave man. Noam Chomsky was saying the same stuff 40 years ago. But unlike Chomsky, you go for the throat of the common man, whose side you pretend to take. You’re just like Michael Moore. You sit next to the proles at the local tavern, drink with them, laugh with them — and then shiv them in the back in your next article. Maybe it didn’t occur to you that they might support the troops not because they love military aggression but because one of their friends or relatives might be a veteran with a prosthetic leg or PTSD. But inhuman scum like you just spits on them as cheerleaders for the war machine.

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    Israel firster Bragadocious is greatly disturbed by me identifying the "rootless, criminal cabal," for he knows exactly who I'm talking about, and he shows his hand by citing the fake dissident, Noam Chomsky. Smug and pseudonymous in midtown Manhattan, he seethes at those who dare to lift the curtain to reveal his poisonous kind.
    , @willpath
    Michael Moore? Yeah, I guess.
    But you're really thinking of that younger, more brilliant fellow, Kevin Williamson.
    , @Roger D
    Soldiers fights not for their country, they fight for their government and brothers-in-arms. In the case of US soldiers, they fight for the wants of Washington and Tel Aviv. The whole phony 'War on Terror' is based on deceit. Most US soldiers don't even know how many towers were taken down on 9/11. If they did their duty of due diligence the veterans you refer to would not have prosthetic legs or be suffering from PTSD. What about the thousands of soldiers who lost their lives? Stop waving the flag like sheep and wake up to the truth!

    Over 3,000 members of Architects and Engineers for Truth about 9/11 have evidence that the three towers were brought down by controlled demolition. The level of wickedness was unfathomable. But yes, the official government story that Muslim hijackers were responsible for the towers collapsing is a myth. I urge others to do their own due diligence about 9/11. At stake is the sheer foundation for 17 years of wars. Millions have been killed, maimed or displaced and the carnage continues under Trump.
    , @MacNucc11
    Pretty incoherent. So he shivs them in the back because he doesn't want them to end up with PTSD and a prosthetic leg?
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  8. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Bragadocious
    For years, I have also stressed that the United States is ruled by a rootless, criminal cabal, and for pointing out something so obvious, I have had countless slurs hurled at me

    Oh you brave, brave man. Noam Chomsky was saying the same stuff 40 years ago. But unlike Chomsky, you go for the throat of the common man, whose side you pretend to take. You're just like Michael Moore. You sit next to the proles at the local tavern, drink with them, laugh with them -- and then shiv them in the back in your next article. Maybe it didn't occur to you that they might support the troops not because they love military aggression but because one of their friends or relatives might be a veteran with a prosthetic leg or PTSD. But inhuman scum like you just spits on them as cheerleaders for the war machine.

    Israel firster Bragadocious is greatly disturbed by me identifying the “rootless, criminal cabal,” for he knows exactly who I’m talking about, and he shows his hand by citing the fake dissident, Noam Chomsky. Smug and pseudonymous in midtown Manhattan, he seethes at those who dare to lift the curtain to reveal his poisonous kind.

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    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    Ok, fine. Now you wanna address his other points?
    , @Christians aka God's true chosen people
    Linh you are an extraordinary man.Totally agree with your article and about the rootless,criminal cabal which controls us.And love how you expose Bragadocious for what IT is.May God bless and protect you so that you may continue to honor us with your writing.Thank you.
    , @MacNucc11
    I mean really, when has Noam Chomsky been called on the carpet? Everyone fawns over this guy like pearls of wisdom are just dropping from his mouth. Fake dissident sums it up.
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  9. mh505 says:

    “… and for pointing out something so obvious, I have had countless slurs hurled at me.”

    A Linh, why do you even care about that?

    You lived in Germany, so you will probably understand what Helmut Qualtinger used to say:

    ” No net amol ignorieren”

    and that should be your motto too.

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  10. 1/ ‘… Nations that stress linguistic, cultural and/or ethnic unity will outlast those that don’t…’

    Actually it’s nations that actually have children that will outlast those that don’t. Ockham lives!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate

    For infertitlity outside of Europe it’s East Asia (although Vietnam just makes it to replacement).

    2/ Linh Dinh vs Bragadocious. Iran vs Iraq (or Iraq vs Iran?)

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  11. Jim Smith says:

    I always stop what I’m doing to read Linh Dinh’s essays. He’s getting better and better. I’m going to have to buy some of his books now. Excellent eye, excellent writing, excellent soul.

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  12. anonymous[466] • Disclaimer says:

    Well written. Mr. Dinh, like so many foreign born individuals who have the gift of perception, sees America for what it is far better than the WaPo, NY Times, NY Review of Books crowd.

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  13. well written as usual.

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  14. For Christ’s sake, Linh, I’m finding myself more or less consistently in agreement with you.

    What in the hell is happening?

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    Hi Shouting Thomas,

    Perhaps our differences were only superficial. Perhaps we can meet someday over a beer or two.

    Linh
    , @Truth
    You're benefiting from the Flynn Effect?
    , @dr kill
    Agree with Linh? Easier to agree to not live in Philly. Problem solved.
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  15. Perhaps, Lin, by voluntarily entering an establishment in order to alter one’s consciousness- whether in Vietnam or America- you are signaling your surrender and defeat in the war on the “true nature of reality.”

    The alcohol delusion amplifies greed…hatred…bondage.

    …And is anathema to wholesome higher insights.

    Whether alcohol or heroin…these self- ingrained defilements are an obstruction to the complete repose to the human spirit.

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    • Replies: @MacNucc11
    I am pretty sure beer is real.
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  16. Hey man, lighten up. Even the Bible doesn’t say, “and then the Lord turned the water into iced tea.”

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  17. Chase says:

    I’m angry at it all, but the anger is just an aggressive cover for a deep sadness over the death of a country I once, barely, knew (born 1983). And fear: we don’t get another country if this one goes away. It seems as if some of my compatriots believe that for some reason. It’s all so strange.

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  18. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Shouting Thomas
    For Christ’s sake, Linh, I’m finding myself more or less consistently in agreement with you.

    What in the hell is happening?

    Hi Shouting Thomas,

    Perhaps our differences were only superficial. Perhaps we can meet someday over a beer or two.

    Linh

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  19. Dan says:
    @TG
    Indeed. I would say this from a slightly different angle: forget about the details of politics: constitutional monarchy, parliamentary democracy, a republic, democratic socialism, even marxism, checks and balances, an independent judiciary, an independent central bank, a written constitution... all of these can be made to work, more or less, if the elites care about the nation as whole. And none of these will matter if the elites no longer care, if they value their own short-term profit over the long-term stability and strength of their nation.

    Back under FDR etc., the elites of this nation were worried about communists, and anarchists, and then Nazis. That made them care about this nation, they feared that if the nation went down they would go down as well. So they cared about the working class. I am old enough to remember when we used to celebrate that we had the highest wages in the world - that was considered a magnificent joint accomplishment and proof of the greatness of this nation. Now high American wages are routinely derided as evil, as proof that Americans are selfish and lazy and they need to be replaced by all those wonderful third-world refugees who have no alternative but to work for sub-poverty wages...

    I think the core of this rot is that the elites are no longer afraid. They no longer have reason to care. They live in gated estates, they fly from private airports (even first class in a public airport is not good enough/removed enough from the masses for them!), and if things fall apart they will just sail away in their yachts, tut-tutting about how Americans no longer deserve their presence...

    Everything is financialized and the elites are supranational. End of story. Enjoy the little things.

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    elites are supranational
     
    Indeed so.

    So is capital, when the dollar will have only limited reserve currency status to the rest of the world, ...the American locals will be proportionately ruled by Russian oligarchs and Chinese priviledge.

    American locals are just bulk humanity to these supranationals, they are defined by global consumerism of the same crap the elites despise. They sweat corn syrup and palm oil and seem to look "Pinker Steve" happy when digitally masturbating and being chemically subdued, encased in concrete scenarios.

    Now after consumerism, since it is offset by limited resources of our planet, it will be real misery, as in plowing concrete. That must be mostly indifferent to our supranationals. Bulk humanity is basically obsolete, and extra-ordinary lucky. If it were for the supranational nuclei to have a long term policy, we the deplorables would be wiped away, say three quarters of us.

    They are though eagerly observing, if we not, as always, will do it ourselves to us. The problem would die on itself. The ethnic White middle class down to the street is pointing the way.

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  20. @TG
    Indeed. I would say this from a slightly different angle: forget about the details of politics: constitutional monarchy, parliamentary democracy, a republic, democratic socialism, even marxism, checks and balances, an independent judiciary, an independent central bank, a written constitution... all of these can be made to work, more or less, if the elites care about the nation as whole. And none of these will matter if the elites no longer care, if they value their own short-term profit over the long-term stability and strength of their nation.

    Back under FDR etc., the elites of this nation were worried about communists, and anarchists, and then Nazis. That made them care about this nation, they feared that if the nation went down they would go down as well. So they cared about the working class. I am old enough to remember when we used to celebrate that we had the highest wages in the world - that was considered a magnificent joint accomplishment and proof of the greatness of this nation. Now high American wages are routinely derided as evil, as proof that Americans are selfish and lazy and they need to be replaced by all those wonderful third-world refugees who have no alternative but to work for sub-poverty wages...

    I think the core of this rot is that the elites are no longer afraid. They no longer have reason to care. They live in gated estates, they fly from private airports (even first class in a public airport is not good enough/removed enough from the masses for them!), and if things fall apart they will just sail away in their yachts, tut-tutting about how Americans no longer deserve their presence...

    Atlas shrugged?

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    Atlas shrugged?
     
    There aren't any Jews in that book, save for a brief self-portrait of the author. The financier of the shruggers is an Irishman. The book avoids the JQ something fierce.
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  21. bartok says:
    @byrresheim
    Atlas shrugged?

    Atlas shrugged?

    There aren’t any Jews in that book, save for a brief self-portrait of the author. The financier of the shruggers is an Irishman. The book avoids the JQ something fierce.

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    There is somewhere, and I don't seem to find it, a very interesting article about antijewish riots in 18th and early 19th century Poland, showing that this was not a game of gentiles vs. jews but rather Polish nobility with (or very rarely against) wealthy jews against Ukrainian peasants, with regular explosive excesses of said peasants against poor jews.

    Everybody who counted (the first two groups) seems not to have been overly unhappy with the rabble letting off steam from time to time. Poor jews seem not to have counted at all.

    Conclusion: one has to thread carefully there if one doesn't wish to be a tool of the elites.

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  22. @unit472
    I would agree that the America of the neighborhood tavern is dying but would not characterize our political leadership as a 'rootless, criminal cabal. Criminal they maybe but they are rooted in the Ivy League, principally Yale and Harvard, and the ideology to gain admission to those schools. I would say skills to gain entrance but, today, it is more a matter of ideology. Stray too far from the Clinton/Bush crony capitalist model or Obama's identity politics and your application goes into the garbage can and with it your chance of joining our governing elite.

    Some day you may wake up to reality son. We have the most evil criminal gangters that has ever existed in any national history. Pull your ass out of the sand.

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  23. Tulip says:

    For a poet, you sure have a way with words.

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  24. p s c says:

    Speaking of Callowhill Street, several blocks west at around 16th and Callowhill is the Immigration Review Federal Government office. Hundred of people (foreigners) line-up there every day so that they can live in the the most oppressive country in the world. Figure that in this era of Trumpian hate?

    There are also about 6-10 large trucks parked on the street that resemble former bread-delivery vans or food vending trucks. I approached one to order lunch but discovered these trucks offer quick photographs and fingerprints to the masses of foreigners for the documentation needed at the Fed building.

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    Speaking of Callowhill Street, several blocks west at around 16th and Callowhill is the Immigration Review Federal Government office. Hundred of people (foreigners) line-up there every day so that they can live in the the most oppressive country in the world. Figure that in this era of Trumpian hate?
     
    Who ever said those people are smart?
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  25. Truth says:
    @Shouting Thomas
    For Christ’s sake, Linh, I’m finding myself more or less consistently in agreement with you.

    What in the hell is happening?

    You’re benefiting from the Flynn Effect?

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  26. Biff says:
    @p s c
    Speaking of Callowhill Street, several blocks west at around 16th and Callowhill is the Immigration Review Federal Government office. Hundred of people (foreigners) line-up there every day so that they can live in the the most oppressive country in the world. Figure that in this era of Trumpian hate?

    There are also about 6-10 large trucks parked on the street that resemble former bread-delivery vans or food vending trucks. I approached one to order lunch but discovered these trucks offer quick photographs and fingerprints to the masses of foreigners for the documentation needed at the Fed building.

    Speaking of Callowhill Street, several blocks west at around 16th and Callowhill is the Immigration Review Federal Government office. Hundred of people (foreigners) line-up there every day so that they can live in the the most oppressive country in the world. Figure that in this era of Trumpian hate?

    Who ever said those people are smart?

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    • Replies: @Swan Knight
    Free shit. You can go back to watching CNN and reading Huffington Post
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  27. Biff says:

    “The Future is Asia.”

    Try not letting the word get out too much; I don’t want too many jerks following me here.

    Peace. And thanks for the great essay.

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  28. @unit472
    I would agree that the America of the neighborhood tavern is dying but would not characterize our political leadership as a 'rootless, criminal cabal. Criminal they maybe but they are rooted in the Ivy League, principally Yale and Harvard, and the ideology to gain admission to those schools. I would say skills to gain entrance but, today, it is more a matter of ideology. Stray too far from the Clinton/Bush crony capitalist model or Obama's identity politics and your application goes into the garbage can and with it your chance of joining our governing elite.

    I would agree that the America of the neighborhood tavern is dying

    Neighborhood taverns are dying out. Mostly because younger people are socially introverted and don’t go out much. Even nightclubs, which used to get huge weekend crowds, are in serious decline. Going out on a weekend night (whether to a tavern, nightclub, HS football game, house party, or frat kegger) is something people under 30 just don’t value much. Even during the day, you see remarkably few young people socializing in public spaces. For them, their smartphone is their primary social space.

    The tavern regulars, mentioned in this post, are remnants of the much more socially extroverted culture that existed from the late 60s through the early 90s.

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  29. @TG
    Indeed. I would say this from a slightly different angle: forget about the details of politics: constitutional monarchy, parliamentary democracy, a republic, democratic socialism, even marxism, checks and balances, an independent judiciary, an independent central bank, a written constitution... all of these can be made to work, more or less, if the elites care about the nation as whole. And none of these will matter if the elites no longer care, if they value their own short-term profit over the long-term stability and strength of their nation.

    Back under FDR etc., the elites of this nation were worried about communists, and anarchists, and then Nazis. That made them care about this nation, they feared that if the nation went down they would go down as well. So they cared about the working class. I am old enough to remember when we used to celebrate that we had the highest wages in the world - that was considered a magnificent joint accomplishment and proof of the greatness of this nation. Now high American wages are routinely derided as evil, as proof that Americans are selfish and lazy and they need to be replaced by all those wonderful third-world refugees who have no alternative but to work for sub-poverty wages...

    I think the core of this rot is that the elites are no longer afraid. They no longer have reason to care. They live in gated estates, they fly from private airports (even first class in a public airport is not good enough/removed enough from the masses for them!), and if things fall apart they will just sail away in their yachts, tut-tutting about how Americans no longer deserve their presence...

    Exactly. America’s leaders behave criminally because they’re not scared of the population. So there’s nothing to constrain our leaders from behaving like grifters and conmen.

    At some point, however, this will come to an end. Our massively skyrocketing national debt is totally unpayable, so investors will eventually stop buying our bonds. When that happens, our national economy and standard of living will collapse dramatically.

    It’s at that point when our leaders are either put in jail or flee the country.

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    It’s at that point when our leaders are either put in jail or flee the country.
     
    Not so simple.

    The little people are already turning to opioid addiction from despair...that will increase.

    And, the super-wealthy will always be able to hire psychopaths who are class and race-traitors to protect them and their stuff.

    Very few people will fight back until things are beyond bleak, unfortunately.
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  30. JMcG says:
    @TG
    Indeed. I would say this from a slightly different angle: forget about the details of politics: constitutional monarchy, parliamentary democracy, a republic, democratic socialism, even marxism, checks and balances, an independent judiciary, an independent central bank, a written constitution... all of these can be made to work, more or less, if the elites care about the nation as whole. And none of these will matter if the elites no longer care, if they value their own short-term profit over the long-term stability and strength of their nation.

    Back under FDR etc., the elites of this nation were worried about communists, and anarchists, and then Nazis. That made them care about this nation, they feared that if the nation went down they would go down as well. So they cared about the working class. I am old enough to remember when we used to celebrate that we had the highest wages in the world - that was considered a magnificent joint accomplishment and proof of the greatness of this nation. Now high American wages are routinely derided as evil, as proof that Americans are selfish and lazy and they need to be replaced by all those wonderful third-world refugees who have no alternative but to work for sub-poverty wages...

    I think the core of this rot is that the elites are no longer afraid. They no longer have reason to care. They live in gated estates, they fly from private airports (even first class in a public airport is not good enough/removed enough from the masses for them!), and if things fall apart they will just sail away in their yachts, tut-tutting about how Americans no longer deserve their presence...

    Back under FDR the elites of this nation WERE communist.

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    Sure they were and FDR was a little green man from Mars,they did just what they are doing today buy the politicans and ride the glory train.!!!
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  31. dr kill says:
    @Shouting Thomas
    For Christ’s sake, Linh, I’m finding myself more or less consistently in agreement with you.

    What in the hell is happening?

    Agree with Linh? Easier to agree to not live in Philly. Problem solved.

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    Dr Kill is right. Philly is one of America's shit holes. My ancestors were from there and nearly all left for other parts of the US. There are plenty of great places in this country. Philly isn't representative of the country but it is like other shit holes. Visit Baltimore for example. But why would a foreign person want to visit the dregs of the country? Switzerland and Norway probably have some sad broken down hamlets and suburbs full of drug addicts and drunks. I will pass by those places when I visit.

    Philadelphia was once America's premier city. Maybe there will be a revival some day. A population rearrangement would be the first step.
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  32. (((rootless, criminal cabal)))

    well said. Also includes

    the mostly-White political class that sold itself to the Jews.

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  33. Anonymous[680] • Disclaimer says:

    Look to the bottom left of the ‘FUCK A NAZI’ writing. What is it? It’s a glory hole! And hence it’s grammatically correct.

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  34. GammaRay says:

    Actually I think that the “rootless, criminal cabal” are great for their subtle infiltration and subversion of the west. The west has spent literal centuries wrecking and exploiting other countries (including vietnam), and now it is basically getting its comeuppance. Why are you mad about this? What we are seeing play out currently is simply a balancing act, no more and no less. The west has been living on credit for centuries, but now its having to pay back its debts. Seems pretty fair to me. The majority of (non-immigrant) westerners are completely indifferent to the whole state of affairs, while the vocal minority of westerners who oppose the current state of affairs and the destruction of their own culture don’t hesitate to condone and celebrate the destruction of countless other cultures at the hands of the west. Their philosophy and outlook is self-serving in the extreme. All these smug alt-righters that you think of as your allies wouldn’t hesitate to throw you under the bus if they thought it was good for western civilization.

    Most westerners could give two shits about the current direction of the west, hence the negative reactions you get when you try to reveal inconvenient facts about the current direction of the west. If they don’t care, then why should you? The sheer weight of historical consequence virtually demands the current changes that we are seeing. Even those on the far-right are unable to affect things due to their own irrationality, hubris and self defeating actions (look at how many on the far right support trump even though he is an obvious zionist puppet and trojan horse). Its apparent to me that the west is in intractable decline and has no one to blame but itself. Also just to reiterate this point; IF the west was resurgent, then colonialism/empire building would inevitably rear its ugly head again. POC who advocate for western civilization seem to ignore this point. Many on the alt-right are entirely sympathetic to the idea of colonialism (as long as its white people doing it and no one else); and these are the precise people who would be in charge if the west actually had an unapologetic resurgence. As a POC, you’re basically cucking yourself by supporting the alt-right/west civ project. I know that you are stubborn and prideful, so you will effectively shut out what I am telling you, but I felt it was worth telling you this anyways on the off chance that you might see things from a different perspective.

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    But why should I have anything against colonialism? If "my culture" praises men who mutilate themselves into women and advocates corruption as a way of doing things, why shouldn't I support, for example, a Martian overlord that supports what I do believe in? Do I have some sort of psychic necessity to support other "POC" whatever that means(or for that matter, a broken humanity?)

    I support whoever upholds my values, and oppose anyone who will further erode it.
    , @Anonymous
    Most of us are against both 'invite the world' and 'invade the world'.

    And as for colonialism, was that ever a grassroots thing? Or was it once again driven by a ruling class?
    , @0352
    Gamma,
    The western world is collapsing, not because if colonialism, imperialism or any other "ism" for that matter. It is collapsing because of unfettered immigration by non-whites brought on by the evil cabal of the Federal government and big business. The out of control national debt certainly doesn't help our situation in the west but it COULD be dealt with, had the evil cabal not brought tens of millions of non-white people to the west. The west will eventually implode (riots, racial and class civil war, etc.) due to the inability or conscious refusal of all of those immigrants to assimilate. Germany is the prime example. Muslim men regularly raping and murdering WHITE German women. France, Sweden, The Netherlands, Belgium and others, are all in the same dire straits. At least Hungary and Austria are starting to understand the danger. As for Vietnam, screw it! It's a worthless POS country the US should have left to its own destiny. LBJ burns in Hell for this and his many other sins against this once-great USA.

    You have an obvious hatred for the US and the west. Take your hatred elsewhere.
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  35. Linh’s writing is always welcome and appreciated, as there is very little being written from the street point-of-view with his ability to see all the cultural nuances at play. I know well some of these regions he writes about and I’m amazed at how he nails it every time. The tension in Linh’s writing–for me–resides in his open, casual approach followed by the unwanted and stinging revelation. He’s like the avuncular dentist who says to the reader this won’t hurt a bit then suddenly he starts drilling you without novocaine. But sometimes it’s necessary to hurt.

    Keep writing, I hope to see more. And yeah, I’ll be buying your book.

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    He finds the big in the little. There is no little.. It is all big.
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  36. Linh Dinh noted:
    “…but that’s English for you, for in this language, making love is constantly used to convey hate or calamity, as in, “I will fuck you up.”

    Hi Linh,

    Re; above.

    Recently, while driving school bus for Scranton elementary kids, a terribly behaved black boy, 4th grade, was causing chaos and refused to remain seated.

    After pleading with the kid and warning him several times, he finally sat down. Seated directly behind my driver seat, I gave him a stern stare in my rearview mirror.

    Instantly, he looked back at me and asked, “What the fuck are you looking at, nigger?”

    Thanks, Linh, great article!

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  37. @GammaRay
    Actually I think that the "rootless, criminal cabal" are great for their subtle infiltration and subversion of the west. The west has spent literal centuries wrecking and exploiting other countries (including vietnam), and now it is basically getting its comeuppance. Why are you mad about this? What we are seeing play out currently is simply a balancing act, no more and no less. The west has been living on credit for centuries, but now its having to pay back its debts. Seems pretty fair to me. The majority of (non-immigrant) westerners are completely indifferent to the whole state of affairs, while the vocal minority of westerners who oppose the current state of affairs and the destruction of their own culture don't hesitate to condone and celebrate the destruction of countless other cultures at the hands of the west. Their philosophy and outlook is self-serving in the extreme. All these smug alt-righters that you think of as your allies wouldn't hesitate to throw you under the bus if they thought it was good for western civilization.

    Most westerners could give two shits about the current direction of the west, hence the negative reactions you get when you try to reveal inconvenient facts about the current direction of the west. If they don't care, then why should you? The sheer weight of historical consequence virtually demands the current changes that we are seeing. Even those on the far-right are unable to affect things due to their own irrationality, hubris and self defeating actions (look at how many on the far right support trump even though he is an obvious zionist puppet and trojan horse). Its apparent to me that the west is in intractable decline and has no one to blame but itself. Also just to reiterate this point; IF the west was resurgent, then colonialism/empire building would inevitably rear its ugly head again. POC who advocate for western civilization seem to ignore this point. Many on the alt-right are entirely sympathetic to the idea of colonialism (as long as its white people doing it and no one else); and these are the precise people who would be in charge if the west actually had an unapologetic resurgence. As a POC, you're basically cucking yourself by supporting the alt-right/west civ project. I know that you are stubborn and prideful, so you will effectively shut out what I am telling you, but I felt it was worth telling you this anyways on the off chance that you might see things from a different perspective.

    But why should I have anything against colonialism? If “my culture” praises men who mutilate themselves into women and advocates corruption as a way of doing things, why shouldn’t I support, for example, a Martian overlord that supports what I do believe in? Do I have some sort of psychic necessity to support other “POC” whatever that means(or for that matter, a broken humanity?)

    I support whoever upholds my values, and oppose anyone who will further erode it.

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    There is no universal, global brotherhood of "nationalist, right-wing, anti-SJW" values as you seem to be trying to imply. The western far-right/alt-right is entirely self-serving and their appeals to some kind of global nationalistic ideology is basically just a thin facade that they promote in order to help generate support for their own self-serving agenda. The only reason that the western far-right wants to reach out for allies right now is because they are on the ropes and in a position of weakness; if the western far-right was instead in a position of strength then they would not hesitate to put their boot on your neck. You are quite naive if you don't think otherwise.

    As an long time observer of the western far-right; its very clear that at the end of the day, it is not principles that they care about, it is only themselves. That in itself would be fine if they were upfront about it, however the problem is that they insist on being very deceptive about their true motives. As I have said in this post, and so many others; why is it that the far-right wants to postulate about "rights" and "fairness" when it comes to the preservation of the white race, but then when it comes to any other ethnic group on earth that has been negatively impacted by western colonialism the far-right just tells them to go fuck themselves? This tells you all you need to know about how the far-right really feels about its so called vaunted principles regarding racial/cultural preservation. They believe in it for themselves yes, but will be more than willing to compromise this belief when it comes to any others. You are missing the forest for the trees if you insist on adhering to notions of abstract jointly-held values at the expense of basic strategic interests; this is something I guarantee you is not lost on the western far-right.

    You also assume that SJWism is going to spread to east asia and negatively affect the culture there in the same way that it has in the west. Is this or is this not the primary motivation why you seek an alliance with the western far-right? Have I understood your motive correctly? Going on the assumption that this is actually your motive; then why haven't you taken into account the fact that culturally and genetically speaking, east asians simply think differently than whites do? There is no reason to believe that SJWism is going to run as rampantly in east asia as it has in the west. It will gain a foothold that is for sure, but it won't gain the same kind of traction that it has in the west. Ideologies cannot completely change the essential natures of people, if this was the case then the alt-right (based on racial determinism) would not exist in the first place. Anyways this is a moot point; if the west fully declines then it would be unable to export its leftist ideals anyways, so I don't see what you're mad about.

    Once again, to reiterate my original point. It is absurd for POC to assume that the western far-right in any way, shape or form represents their interests or at the very least is a neutral entity towards them. It is true that POC is a clumsy, extremely general term, but in this context it functions perfectly. The western far-right worldview is basically encapsulated as "whites vs all others"; therefore within this context, a pan non-white concept like POC is useful for working within such a stark, extremist ideological framework. What is playing out in the west right now is basically the west struggling with its own past actions; highly conscientious POC need to sit on the sidelines, shutup and let this play out on its own. There is no need to take sides here, the west made its own bed, let it sleep in it, this has nothing to do with POC.
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  38. Anonymous[680] • Disclaimer says:
    @GammaRay
    Actually I think that the "rootless, criminal cabal" are great for their subtle infiltration and subversion of the west. The west has spent literal centuries wrecking and exploiting other countries (including vietnam), and now it is basically getting its comeuppance. Why are you mad about this? What we are seeing play out currently is simply a balancing act, no more and no less. The west has been living on credit for centuries, but now its having to pay back its debts. Seems pretty fair to me. The majority of (non-immigrant) westerners are completely indifferent to the whole state of affairs, while the vocal minority of westerners who oppose the current state of affairs and the destruction of their own culture don't hesitate to condone and celebrate the destruction of countless other cultures at the hands of the west. Their philosophy and outlook is self-serving in the extreme. All these smug alt-righters that you think of as your allies wouldn't hesitate to throw you under the bus if they thought it was good for western civilization.

    Most westerners could give two shits about the current direction of the west, hence the negative reactions you get when you try to reveal inconvenient facts about the current direction of the west. If they don't care, then why should you? The sheer weight of historical consequence virtually demands the current changes that we are seeing. Even those on the far-right are unable to affect things due to their own irrationality, hubris and self defeating actions (look at how many on the far right support trump even though he is an obvious zionist puppet and trojan horse). Its apparent to me that the west is in intractable decline and has no one to blame but itself. Also just to reiterate this point; IF the west was resurgent, then colonialism/empire building would inevitably rear its ugly head again. POC who advocate for western civilization seem to ignore this point. Many on the alt-right are entirely sympathetic to the idea of colonialism (as long as its white people doing it and no one else); and these are the precise people who would be in charge if the west actually had an unapologetic resurgence. As a POC, you're basically cucking yourself by supporting the alt-right/west civ project. I know that you are stubborn and prideful, so you will effectively shut out what I am telling you, but I felt it was worth telling you this anyways on the off chance that you might see things from a different perspective.

    Most of us are against both ‘invite the world’ and ‘invade the world’.

    And as for colonialism, was that ever a grassroots thing? Or was it once again driven by a ruling class?

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    Most of us are against both ‘invite the world’ and ‘invade the world’.
     
    Im an old hand on the internet far-right/alt-right scene; what you said is generally true except with a major caveat. The alt-right is against invading the world only when it doesn't result in any net gain for the west. The alt-right doesn't actually have a principled stance against colonization/invading other countries; rather they are only against invading other countries when it inconveniences them, but when it happens to benefit them, they are fully supportive of all kinds of invasions. This is probably one of the things that disgusts me most about the alt-right is how they lack any kind of true, consistent moral foundation but like to act as if they do.

    Its not really a useful argument to ask if something is really a grassroots thing or not. You could apply that same line of reasoning to anything to the extent where it could obscure the true reality of an event. Is globalization due to the actions of a jewish ruling class? Perhaps. But many on the alt-right still blame jews in general because they understand that there is something in jewish culture that is sympathetic to the globalization project overall. The same thing applies to western colonization as well. Regardless of what the western ruling class chose to do, there was an eager, sympathetic and compliant population which enabled western colonization to happen. If the population was not enthusiastic about the colonization project then the broad and thorough scale of european colonization would have been impossible otherwise.

    The very act of colonizing and expansion is something that speaks to the very soul of western man. Most on the far-right fully agree with this sentiment btw and this is something that you see them say over and over. Simply trying to deflect all the blame on the ruling class and absolve the people actually carrying out actions is pretty disingenuous. The reality is, both the ruling class and its subjects are both equally culpable for european colonization. More importantly, I want to add that while colonialism may not have originated as a grassroots movement, it certainly had (and continues to have) grassroots support (especially among the far-right). Which is something that is equally important to consider (and equally damning as well)
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  39. Swan Knight says: • Website
    @unit472
    I would agree that the America of the neighborhood tavern is dying but would not characterize our political leadership as a 'rootless, criminal cabal. Criminal they maybe but they are rooted in the Ivy League, principally Yale and Harvard, and the ideology to gain admission to those schools. I would say skills to gain entrance but, today, it is more a matter of ideology. Stray too far from the Clinton/Bush crony capitalist model or Obama's identity politics and your application goes into the garbage can and with it your chance of joining our governing elite.

    Rootless criminal cabal sounds right to me. I would add psychopathic

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  40. Swan Knight says: • Website
    @Biff

    Speaking of Callowhill Street, several blocks west at around 16th and Callowhill is the Immigration Review Federal Government office. Hundred of people (foreigners) line-up there every day so that they can live in the the most oppressive country in the world. Figure that in this era of Trumpian hate?
     
    Who ever said those people are smart?

    Free shit. You can go back to watching CNN and reading Huffington Post

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    Free = good?

    Stay right where you are! Don’t leave home!
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  41. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    I wish there was a Linh article every day. Love his work.

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  42. m___ says:
    @TG
    Indeed. I would say this from a slightly different angle: forget about the details of politics: constitutional monarchy, parliamentary democracy, a republic, democratic socialism, even marxism, checks and balances, an independent judiciary, an independent central bank, a written constitution... all of these can be made to work, more or less, if the elites care about the nation as whole. And none of these will matter if the elites no longer care, if they value their own short-term profit over the long-term stability and strength of their nation.

    Back under FDR etc., the elites of this nation were worried about communists, and anarchists, and then Nazis. That made them care about this nation, they feared that if the nation went down they would go down as well. So they cared about the working class. I am old enough to remember when we used to celebrate that we had the highest wages in the world - that was considered a magnificent joint accomplishment and proof of the greatness of this nation. Now high American wages are routinely derided as evil, as proof that Americans are selfish and lazy and they need to be replaced by all those wonderful third-world refugees who have no alternative but to work for sub-poverty wages...

    I think the core of this rot is that the elites are no longer afraid. They no longer have reason to care. They live in gated estates, they fly from private airports (even first class in a public airport is not good enough/removed enough from the masses for them!), and if things fall apart they will just sail away in their yachts, tut-tutting about how Americans no longer deserve their presence...

    Elites are global, Americans are locals.

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  43. GammaRay says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    But why should I have anything against colonialism? If "my culture" praises men who mutilate themselves into women and advocates corruption as a way of doing things, why shouldn't I support, for example, a Martian overlord that supports what I do believe in? Do I have some sort of psychic necessity to support other "POC" whatever that means(or for that matter, a broken humanity?)

    I support whoever upholds my values, and oppose anyone who will further erode it.

    There is no universal, global brotherhood of “nationalist, right-wing, anti-SJW” values as you seem to be trying to imply. The western far-right/alt-right is entirely self-serving and their appeals to some kind of global nationalistic ideology is basically just a thin facade that they promote in order to help generate support for their own self-serving agenda. The only reason that the western far-right wants to reach out for allies right now is because they are on the ropes and in a position of weakness; if the western far-right was instead in a position of strength then they would not hesitate to put their boot on your neck. You are quite naive if you don’t think otherwise.

    As an long time observer of the western far-right; its very clear that at the end of the day, it is not principles that they care about, it is only themselves. That in itself would be fine if they were upfront about it, however the problem is that they insist on being very deceptive about their true motives. As I have said in this post, and so many others; why is it that the far-right wants to postulate about “rights” and “fairness” when it comes to the preservation of the white race, but then when it comes to any other ethnic group on earth that has been negatively impacted by western colonialism the far-right just tells them to go fuck themselves? This tells you all you need to know about how the far-right really feels about its so called vaunted principles regarding racial/cultural preservation. They believe in it for themselves yes, but will be more than willing to compromise this belief when it comes to any others. You are missing the forest for the trees if you insist on adhering to notions of abstract jointly-held values at the expense of basic strategic interests; this is something I guarantee you is not lost on the western far-right.

    You also assume that SJWism is going to spread to east asia and negatively affect the culture there in the same way that it has in the west. Is this or is this not the primary motivation why you seek an alliance with the western far-right? Have I understood your motive correctly? Going on the assumption that this is actually your motive; then why haven’t you taken into account the fact that culturally and genetically speaking, east asians simply think differently than whites do? There is no reason to believe that SJWism is going to run as rampantly in east asia as it has in the west. It will gain a foothold that is for sure, but it won’t gain the same kind of traction that it has in the west. Ideologies cannot completely change the essential natures of people, if this was the case then the alt-right (based on racial determinism) would not exist in the first place. Anyways this is a moot point; if the west fully declines then it would be unable to export its leftist ideals anyways, so I don’t see what you’re mad about.

    Once again, to reiterate my original point. It is absurd for POC to assume that the western far-right in any way, shape or form represents their interests or at the very least is a neutral entity towards them. It is true that POC is a clumsy, extremely general term, but in this context it functions perfectly. The western far-right worldview is basically encapsulated as “whites vs all others”; therefore within this context, a pan non-white concept like POC is useful for working within such a stark, extremist ideological framework. What is playing out in the west right now is basically the west struggling with its own past actions; highly conscientious POC need to sit on the sidelines, shutup and let this play out on its own. There is no need to take sides here, the west made its own bed, let it sleep in it, this has nothing to do with POC.

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    You have a weird obsession with colonialism. Everyone's self-serving; the form changes but at the end of the day, that's nature.

    You're just as self-serving, except that you've apparently have a global image of "POC" being united for some reason. And evidently the West, which for whatever foibles it has, shouldn't at least make an effort to survive?

    God, that's stupid.

    Misanthropy is the true answer.
    , @Pericles
    Lol, what a fool.
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  44. m___ says:
    @Dan
    Everything is financialized and the elites are supranational. End of story. Enjoy the little things.

    elites are supranational

    Indeed so.

    So is capital, when the dollar will have only limited reserve currency status to the rest of the world, …the American locals will be proportionately ruled by Russian oligarchs and Chinese priviledge.

    American locals are just bulk humanity to these supranationals, they are defined by global consumerism of the same crap the elites despise. They sweat corn syrup and palm oil and seem to look “Pinker Steve” happy when digitally masturbating and being chemically subdued, encased in concrete scenarios.

    Now after consumerism, since it is offset by limited resources of our planet, it will be real misery, as in plowing concrete. That must be mostly indifferent to our supranationals. Bulk humanity is basically obsolete, and extra-ordinary lucky. If it were for the supranational nuclei to have a long term policy, we the deplorables would be wiped away, say three quarters of us.

    They are though eagerly observing, if we not, as always, will do it ourselves to us. The problem would die on itself. The ethnic White middle class down to the street is pointing the way.

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  46. deschutes says:

    Stupidest quote of the weekend, by Linh Dinh-

    ” The transgender spiel is a part of the campaign against masculinity. Castration is in.”

    That’s right. All those transfolk just hate men, that’s why they go to such pains to look like women. God, what an idiot. Dinh is right at home here at Unz.com.

    That, and ‘shared bathrooms mean the death of a nation’ :-D

    I can see why Dinh was booted off Counterpunch years ago :-D

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    I hope you aren't named after the beer from Oregon. Great beer. I'd hate to think of you when I drink it.
    , @Jesse James
    Making NYC-Hollywood defined cross-dressing sexual perversion mainstream is part of the Neo-left's campaign to make western societal deconstruction normal. Your wig is too tight, perhaps.
    , @Pericles
    For some reason, I imagine hearing deschutes' words in an artificially high voice.

    That’s right. All those transfolk just hate men, that’s why they go to such pains to look like women.

     

    Do meditate on whether you love men if your entire existence is built on trying to fool them into doing something that would disgust them if they knew better. Like kissing a tranny, for starters.
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  47. GammaRay says:
    @Anonymous
    Most of us are against both 'invite the world' and 'invade the world'.

    And as for colonialism, was that ever a grassroots thing? Or was it once again driven by a ruling class?

    Most of us are against both ‘invite the world’ and ‘invade the world’.

    Im an old hand on the internet far-right/alt-right scene; what you said is generally true except with a major caveat. The alt-right is against invading the world only when it doesn’t result in any net gain for the west. The alt-right doesn’t actually have a principled stance against colonization/invading other countries; rather they are only against invading other countries when it inconveniences them, but when it happens to benefit them, they are fully supportive of all kinds of invasions. This is probably one of the things that disgusts me most about the alt-right is how they lack any kind of true, consistent moral foundation but like to act as if they do.

    Its not really a useful argument to ask if something is really a grassroots thing or not. You could apply that same line of reasoning to anything to the extent where it could obscure the true reality of an event. Is globalization due to the actions of a jewish ruling class? Perhaps. But many on the alt-right still blame jews in general because they understand that there is something in jewish culture that is sympathetic to the globalization project overall. The same thing applies to western colonization as well. Regardless of what the western ruling class chose to do, there was an eager, sympathetic and compliant population which enabled western colonization to happen. If the population was not enthusiastic about the colonization project then the broad and thorough scale of european colonization would have been impossible otherwise.

    The very act of colonizing and expansion is something that speaks to the very soul of western man. Most on the far-right fully agree with this sentiment btw and this is something that you see them say over and over. Simply trying to deflect all the blame on the ruling class and absolve the people actually carrying out actions is pretty disingenuous. The reality is, both the ruling class and its subjects are both equally culpable for european colonization. More importantly, I want to add that while colonialism may not have originated as a grassroots movement, it certainly had (and continues to have) grassroots support (especially among the far-right). Which is something that is equally important to consider (and equally damning as well)

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    Blah, blah. You know nothing, your wall of text is useless.
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    Gamma wrote: "The alt-right is against invading the world only when it doesn’t result in any net gain for the west. The alt-right doesn’t actually have a principled stance against colonization/invading other countries; rather they are only against invading other countries when it inconveniences them,"

    Very good point. And it is the same with the paleocon antiwar types. They don't actually have a principled stand against war and imperialism; they oppose them because the are too costly FOR US, or too ruinous FOR US, rather than being obviously and simply morally WRONG (regardless of the relatively trivial matter of material advantageousness). The right has always lacked fundamental moral consciousness.
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  48. @GammaRay
    There is no universal, global brotherhood of "nationalist, right-wing, anti-SJW" values as you seem to be trying to imply. The western far-right/alt-right is entirely self-serving and their appeals to some kind of global nationalistic ideology is basically just a thin facade that they promote in order to help generate support for their own self-serving agenda. The only reason that the western far-right wants to reach out for allies right now is because they are on the ropes and in a position of weakness; if the western far-right was instead in a position of strength then they would not hesitate to put their boot on your neck. You are quite naive if you don't think otherwise.

    As an long time observer of the western far-right; its very clear that at the end of the day, it is not principles that they care about, it is only themselves. That in itself would be fine if they were upfront about it, however the problem is that they insist on being very deceptive about their true motives. As I have said in this post, and so many others; why is it that the far-right wants to postulate about "rights" and "fairness" when it comes to the preservation of the white race, but then when it comes to any other ethnic group on earth that has been negatively impacted by western colonialism the far-right just tells them to go fuck themselves? This tells you all you need to know about how the far-right really feels about its so called vaunted principles regarding racial/cultural preservation. They believe in it for themselves yes, but will be more than willing to compromise this belief when it comes to any others. You are missing the forest for the trees if you insist on adhering to notions of abstract jointly-held values at the expense of basic strategic interests; this is something I guarantee you is not lost on the western far-right.

    You also assume that SJWism is going to spread to east asia and negatively affect the culture there in the same way that it has in the west. Is this or is this not the primary motivation why you seek an alliance with the western far-right? Have I understood your motive correctly? Going on the assumption that this is actually your motive; then why haven't you taken into account the fact that culturally and genetically speaking, east asians simply think differently than whites do? There is no reason to believe that SJWism is going to run as rampantly in east asia as it has in the west. It will gain a foothold that is for sure, but it won't gain the same kind of traction that it has in the west. Ideologies cannot completely change the essential natures of people, if this was the case then the alt-right (based on racial determinism) would not exist in the first place. Anyways this is a moot point; if the west fully declines then it would be unable to export its leftist ideals anyways, so I don't see what you're mad about.

    Once again, to reiterate my original point. It is absurd for POC to assume that the western far-right in any way, shape or form represents their interests or at the very least is a neutral entity towards them. It is true that POC is a clumsy, extremely general term, but in this context it functions perfectly. The western far-right worldview is basically encapsulated as "whites vs all others"; therefore within this context, a pan non-white concept like POC is useful for working within such a stark, extremist ideological framework. What is playing out in the west right now is basically the west struggling with its own past actions; highly conscientious POC need to sit on the sidelines, shutup and let this play out on its own. There is no need to take sides here, the west made its own bed, let it sleep in it, this has nothing to do with POC.

    You have a weird obsession with colonialism. Everyone’s self-serving; the form changes but at the end of the day, that’s nature.

    You’re just as self-serving, except that you’ve apparently have a global image of “POC” being united for some reason. And evidently the West, which for whatever foibles it has, shouldn’t at least make an effort to survive?

    God, that’s stupid.

    Misanthropy is the true answer.

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    Lol, you couldn't address any of my points, that's why you just throw everything out and take potshots at me.

    The modern world, and nearly everything that unz.com is about ultimately goes back to colonialism. You could equally say that the writers on unz.com have a weird obsession with immigration/globalization. Likewise, I could equally say that you have some weird obsession with leftism. You see how flawed your logic is?

    No, im not being self-serving here. I know that my usage of the term POC triggered your anti-left/anti-SJW sensibilities, but you're reading too much into the usage of a word. The term POC was used because it was appropriate for the context (as I explained in my reply to you and you conveniently ignored), not because I have an extreme left political orientation.

    Once again, to reiterate my original point. It is absurd for POC to assume that the western far-right in any way, shape or form represents their interests or at the very least is a neutral entity towards them. It is true that POC is a clumsy, extremely general term, but in this context it functions perfectly. The western far-right worldview is basically encapsulated as “whites vs all others”; therefore within this context, a pan non-white concept like POC is useful for working within such a stark, extremist ideological framework. What is playing out in the west right now is basically the west struggling with its own past actions; highly conscientious POC need to sit on the sidelines, shutup and let this play out on its own. There is no need to take sides here, the west made its own bed, let it sleep in it, this has nothing to do with POC.
     
    As for the west trying to make some effort to survive; I had never claimed that it should not. In fact I never made any argument to that effect in any of my comments on this article. In fact, I want you to prove me wrong. Since you seem so sure of your position, quote and paste where I clearly made an argument to the effect of the west should just give up and stop trying to survive. I'll be waiting.

    You need to work on your reading comprehension. Clearly I have been making the argument that POC (I hope you get triggered by this) need to stop trying to prop up the west by rubbing shoulders with the alt-right and should instead sit back and watch things play out. This is not their fight. Making this argument is completely different than what you were trying to imply I was saying.

    God, that's stupid
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  49. @deschutes
    Stupidest quote of the weekend, by Linh Dinh-

    " The transgender spiel is a part of the campaign against masculinity. Castration is in."

    That's right. All those transfolk just hate men, that's why they go to such pains to look like women. God, what an idiot. Dinh is right at home here at Unz.com.

    That, and 'shared bathrooms mean the death of a nation' :-D

    I can see why Dinh was booted off Counterpunch years ago :-D

    I hope you aren’t named after the beer from Oregon. Great beer. I’d hate to think of you when I drink it.

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    I hope you aren’t named after the beer from Oregon. Great beer. I’d hate to think of you when I drink it.
     
    That beer is named after a river contained in a deep and narrow gorge. Always think of the haunting beauty of the Pacific Northwest whenever you drink it, and forget about the folks in Portland and Seattle.

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  50. GammaRay says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    You have a weird obsession with colonialism. Everyone's self-serving; the form changes but at the end of the day, that's nature.

    You're just as self-serving, except that you've apparently have a global image of "POC" being united for some reason. And evidently the West, which for whatever foibles it has, shouldn't at least make an effort to survive?

    God, that's stupid.

    Misanthropy is the true answer.

    Lol, you couldn’t address any of my points, that’s why you just throw everything out and take potshots at me.

    The modern world, and nearly everything that unz.com is about ultimately goes back to colonialism. You could equally say that the writers on unz.com have a weird obsession with immigration/globalization. Likewise, I could equally say that you have some weird obsession with leftism. You see how flawed your logic is?

    No, im not being self-serving here. I know that my usage of the term POC triggered your anti-left/anti-SJW sensibilities, but you’re reading too much into the usage of a word. The term POC was used because it was appropriate for the context (as I explained in my reply to you and you conveniently ignored), not because I have an extreme left political orientation.

    Once again, to reiterate my original point. It is absurd for POC to assume that the western far-right in any way, shape or form represents their interests or at the very least is a neutral entity towards them. It is true that POC is a clumsy, extremely general term, but in this context it functions perfectly. The western far-right worldview is basically encapsulated as “whites vs all others”; therefore within this context, a pan non-white concept like POC is useful for working within such a stark, extremist ideological framework. What is playing out in the west right now is basically the west struggling with its own past actions; highly conscientious POC need to sit on the sidelines, shutup and let this play out on its own. There is no need to take sides here, the west made its own bed, let it sleep in it, this has nothing to do with POC.

    As for the west trying to make some effort to survive; I had never claimed that it should not. In fact I never made any argument to that effect in any of my comments on this article. In fact, I want you to prove me wrong. Since you seem so sure of your position, quote and paste where I clearly made an argument to the effect of the west should just give up and stop trying to survive. I’ll be waiting.

    You need to work on your reading comprehension. Clearly I have been making the argument that POC (I hope you get triggered by this) need to stop trying to prop up the west by rubbing shoulders with the alt-right and should instead sit back and watch things play out. This is not their fight. Making this argument is completely different than what you were trying to imply I was saying.

    God, that’s stupid

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    As I've said before, I give as much effort to a reply as I think a person deserves. Obviously you're not one of them, in no small part because of your insane fetish with "colonialism" - which I barely could care for.

    Indeed, colonialism can be plenty helpful for improving the condition of a population objectively, which is surprising given that its goal is traditionally extractive but when the native elite is so incompetent or even more extractive of their population, then it is a net benefit to the population.

    Not that I really care; I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with conquest. At the end of the day, competition is the means to determine which values and memes of humanity survive and by removing violence completely as a method, it leads to warping of the population.

    I'm descended from mandarins; I have a pretty clear line of family history as far back as the Yuan. We've done beautiful things - marvelous terraced farms, canals that remain to this day, and a slew of impressive artwork. We've done terrible things - kept generations of illiterate serfs and bondsmen. "European colonialism" may hurt us, but the Cultural Revolution did a lot more damage and almost wiped us out. And we've invaded Vietnam, and I don't regret it: Annam, the peaceful south. Had the Ming held it, had it remained Chinese, its hard to argue that it would not be wealthier and more beautiful than it is now.

    So no, I don't feel anything in common with your so-called POC. And your rants about colonialism only irritate me further. There are many terrible things in life and the world. And often, they are also beautiful and glorious things.

    , @Daniel Chieh
    In fact, looking at your history, you are a rare breed: you are a genuine, unironic anti-white crusader. You actually think there is something uniquely evil about "white people" and talk without any sense of contradiction that you have "extensive experience of white people."

    The mind boggles.

    It was a mistake to give you any time at all.
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  51. @bartok

    Atlas shrugged?
     
    There aren't any Jews in that book, save for a brief self-portrait of the author. The financier of the shruggers is an Irishman. The book avoids the JQ something fierce.

    There is somewhere, and I don’t seem to find it, a very interesting article about antijewish riots in 18th and early 19th century Poland, showing that this was not a game of gentiles vs. jews but rather Polish nobility with (or very rarely against) wealthy jews against Ukrainian peasants, with regular explosive excesses of said peasants against poor jews.

    Everybody who counted (the first two groups) seems not to have been overly unhappy with the rabble letting off steam from time to time. Poor jews seem not to have counted at all.

    Conclusion: one has to thread carefully there if one doesn’t wish to be a tool of the elites.

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  52. @GammaRay
    Lol, you couldn't address any of my points, that's why you just throw everything out and take potshots at me.

    The modern world, and nearly everything that unz.com is about ultimately goes back to colonialism. You could equally say that the writers on unz.com have a weird obsession with immigration/globalization. Likewise, I could equally say that you have some weird obsession with leftism. You see how flawed your logic is?

    No, im not being self-serving here. I know that my usage of the term POC triggered your anti-left/anti-SJW sensibilities, but you're reading too much into the usage of a word. The term POC was used because it was appropriate for the context (as I explained in my reply to you and you conveniently ignored), not because I have an extreme left political orientation.

    Once again, to reiterate my original point. It is absurd for POC to assume that the western far-right in any way, shape or form represents their interests or at the very least is a neutral entity towards them. It is true that POC is a clumsy, extremely general term, but in this context it functions perfectly. The western far-right worldview is basically encapsulated as “whites vs all others”; therefore within this context, a pan non-white concept like POC is useful for working within such a stark, extremist ideological framework. What is playing out in the west right now is basically the west struggling with its own past actions; highly conscientious POC need to sit on the sidelines, shutup and let this play out on its own. There is no need to take sides here, the west made its own bed, let it sleep in it, this has nothing to do with POC.
     
    As for the west trying to make some effort to survive; I had never claimed that it should not. In fact I never made any argument to that effect in any of my comments on this article. In fact, I want you to prove me wrong. Since you seem so sure of your position, quote and paste where I clearly made an argument to the effect of the west should just give up and stop trying to survive. I'll be waiting.

    You need to work on your reading comprehension. Clearly I have been making the argument that POC (I hope you get triggered by this) need to stop trying to prop up the west by rubbing shoulders with the alt-right and should instead sit back and watch things play out. This is not their fight. Making this argument is completely different than what you were trying to imply I was saying.

    God, that's stupid

    As I’ve said before, I give as much effort to a reply as I think a person deserves. Obviously you’re not one of them, in no small part because of your insane fetish with “colonialism” – which I barely could care for.

    Indeed, colonialism can be plenty helpful for improving the condition of a population objectively, which is surprising given that its goal is traditionally extractive but when the native elite is so incompetent or even more extractive of their population, then it is a net benefit to the population.

    Not that I really care; I don’t see anything fundamentally wrong with conquest. At the end of the day, competition is the means to determine which values and memes of humanity survive and by removing violence completely as a method, it leads to warping of the population.

    I’m descended from mandarins; I have a pretty clear line of family history as far back as the Yuan. We’ve done beautiful things – marvelous terraced farms, canals that remain to this day, and a slew of impressive artwork. We’ve done terrible things – kept generations of illiterate serfs and bondsmen. “European colonialism” may hurt us, but the Cultural Revolution did a lot more damage and almost wiped us out. And we’ve invaded Vietnam, and I don’t regret it: Annam, the peaceful south. Had the Ming held it, had it remained Chinese, its hard to argue that it would not be wealthier and more beautiful than it is now.

    So no, I don’t feel anything in common with your so-called POC. And your rants about colonialism only irritate me further. There are many terrible things in life and the world. And often, they are also beautiful and glorious things.

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    LOL. This is hilarious, keep backtracking. You obviously care because you bothered to reply in the first place. Tellingly, you were unable to address the most cogent points in the argument that I brought up against you in my previous replies and instead prefer to dissemble about something that has nothing to do with the original point of discussion. Don't think I didn't notice the (clumsy) sleight of hand. You try to act as if you're above replying to me but really the problem is that you're unable to argue against the points that I made. Its really that simple. If you were able to disprove my arguments then you would already be doing that instead of talking in circles about it.

    Ethically speaking, colonialism is wrong. Doesnt matter who does it, white black or yellow. That being said, I understand the dark parts of human nature and why colonialism happens. Time and time again, I have clearly stated how the crux of my argument is the hypocrisy of the far-right when it comes to the topic of colonialism, not so much the act of colonialism itself. That's it. And I couldn't make my point any clearer. The onus falls on you, and not on I to correctly perceive this point. My problem is not that the west colonized the world (shit happens), my problem is that the far right wants to celebrate and condone colonialism (hence celebrate the historical destruction of other races and cultures) while simultaneously wanting to complain about their own racial displacement and cultural destruction (ironically brought about by globalization which in turn was brought about through western colonialism in the first place). The far-right has a major ideological consistency here which it is either blind to, or willfully ignores. I'm sorry but the western far-right can't have its cake and eat it too. It needs to clearly decide how they feel about the ethics of colonization and then take a principled and consistent stance on it.

    Regardless, both in the comments for this post, and for the entirety of my posting history, my stance regarding colonization has been the same. It is you that has misunderstood it due to your faulty reading comprehension, and anybody who doubts my words is perfectly free to read my prior comments in this thread as well as look through my comment history as well. Therefore, the thrust of your reply completely misses the mark. I suspect however that your misunderstanding was intentional considering how clearly I made my point regarding colonialism in all of my posts. Regardless, why should anyone take what you have to say seriously when you have already demonstrated a clear tendency for poor reading comprehension or willful misperception? Don't forget about this:


    You’re just as self-serving, except that you’ve apparently have a global image of “POC” being united for some reason. And evidently the West, which for whatever foibles it has, shouldn’t at least make an effort to survive?

    God, that’s stupid
    .
     
    As for the west trying to make some effort to survive; I had never claimed that it should not. In fact I never made any argument to that effect in any of my comments on this article. In fact, I want you to prove me wrong. Since you seem so sure of your position, quote and paste where I clearly made an argument to the effect of the west should just give up and stop trying to survive. I’ll be waiting.
     
    I'm still waiting for you to clearly provide proof of your assertion that I implied the west should just give up; which in fact I never wrote anything to the effect of that, but in your rush to debunk me, you obviously missed that. The alt-right always prides itself on relying strictly on the facts, so please live up to this ethos. Everything I wrote is an open book, either prove your assertions or admit that you can't.

    So no, I don’t feel anything in common with your so-called POC. And your rants about colonialism only irritate me further. There are many terrible things in life and the world. And often, they are also beautiful and glorious things.
     
    Nor do you have to feel anything in common with so-called POC. Do you think I care what you feel? You vastly overestimate your own importance. Remember, it was you who went out of you way to start up this dialogue with me, not I. I'm glad that my "rants" regarding colonialism irritate you. That being said, if they irritate you so much, instead of responding to them, please ignore them from now on. You are aware that you are not obligated to reply to anything I write, right?
    , @GammaRay
    True! There are many terrible things in life and the world, and also there are many glorious and beautiful things as well. I think it is beautiful that the west has lived at the expense of others for so long, and now we are reaching a point where everything that the west has done is now catching up with it in unexpected ways. It turns out the the universe has a sense of humor afterall. What goes up, must come down. This applies to all races and all civilizations. As humans, we must seek to live in harmony with each other, and not simply exploit and kill one another. There is beauty in seeking to rise above such primitive impulses, and if possible acting with understanding and compassion towards our fellow man. That is truly the meaning of "being civilized".

    Truly I do not harbor ill-will against the west because it is western, rather I harbor ill-will towards the west because of its past actions and present attitudes. This is why I specifically target the far-right (because of their present attitudes about the west's past actions), as opposed to attacking all western people. I especially have a soft-spot for westerners that are able to genuinely feel remorse about the past. I strongly believe in the concept of forgiveness and letting things go, provided that the sentiment is genuine and mutual. Actually on that topic; even indifference is an acceptable emotion. I think its stupid to morally hold westerners to past events when even they are indifferent about their own racial/cultural future. I only stick it to the far-right because they automatically incur higher moral/ethical standards for themselves to meet when they want to start talking about the importance of having moral rights for racial/cultural survival.

    That being said, the west has a tremendous amount of momentum from its past actions gathered against it; so it doesn't really matter how I feel, the west will still have to deal with everything that is happening to it and what is going to happen to it in the future. Nothing you say or do will impact this in any way, so you might as well enjoy the ride instead of complaining that I am pointing out inconvenient truths which harm your delicate sensibilities. Ironically those who complain most about fragile SJW snowflakes are those who get triggered the easiest themselves :)

    In fact, looking at your history, you are a rare breed: you are a genuine, unironic anti-white crusader. You actually think there is something uniquely evil about “white people” and talk without any sense of contradiction that you have “extensive experience of white people.”

    The mind boggles.

    It was a mistake to give you any time at all.
     
    This is actually a lie what you have written. For your convenience, and for the convenience of anybody reading, I have provided the quote of what I had originally written which you are referring to:


    GammaRay says:
    April 29, 2018 at 7:04 pm GMT • 200 Words
    @Wizard of Oz

    This is an interesting question and definitely worth looking into. That being said, I do not buy into the reasoning that an exploding british population is the only or even major reason behind colonization. From learning about european culture, and understanding the general weltanschauung of white people, as well as from having extensive social experience with them; it is clearly evident to me that there is a strong extraversive, expansive component that exists in the white collective consciousness which under certain circumstances strongly compels them to colonize, displace and replace much more so than other races would do so under similar circumstances. What alt-righters/WN would call “ambition” and “drive”, others might prefer to recognize it as “greed”. Regardless of the semantic trivialities; it is clear that there is a strong internal drive within westerners that causes them to vigorously pursue both the physical and cultural colonization of “the other”. This is not a negative or positive judgment though; it is merely intended to be understood as an objective observation.
     
    What I had written clearly strives to be dispassionate and objective as opposed to the maniacal and frothing at the mouth anti-white diatribe that you are attempting to make it out to be.

    Im sorry but the truth of the matter is that HBD is probably real; racial differences probably exist on a genetic level which influence the behavior and temperaments of different races and ethnic groups. The fact that whites are more likely to be domineering and have a tendency for colonizing "the other" does not make them evil; it is an impulse that can be channeled in both positive and negative ways. That being said, just because I bring up this inconvenient fact doesn't automatically make me racist or "anti-white". I am merely trying to work within a framework of reality, we have both multiple centuries of history to draw inferences from, as well as interpersonal anecdotal observations of white behavior both in real life as well as on the internet in spaces such as these. I don't think its very controversial that I am making observations based on noticing patterns. I mean, is noticing patterns illegal or something undesirable?
    , @alan2102
    Daniel Chieh wrote: "I don’t see anything fundamentally wrong with conquest. At the end of the day, competition is the means to determine which values and memes of humanity survive and by removing violence completely as a method, it leads to warping of the population."

    There it is. The ugly, evil, amoral core of right-wingery.
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  53. Jesus, Lihh!

    Pretty much hopeless and irreversable so,I want that Philly sandwich and beer you promised me last year when you sent me this great book which I look at all the time.

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  54. L-I-H-N excuse. You’d think I would have learned to type by now.

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  55. Left a compliment before, but sort of trivial. Anyway, I want to get my Philly Cheese and beer you promised me whenever I get up there,

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  56. @GammaRay
    Lol, you couldn't address any of my points, that's why you just throw everything out and take potshots at me.

    The modern world, and nearly everything that unz.com is about ultimately goes back to colonialism. You could equally say that the writers on unz.com have a weird obsession with immigration/globalization. Likewise, I could equally say that you have some weird obsession with leftism. You see how flawed your logic is?

    No, im not being self-serving here. I know that my usage of the term POC triggered your anti-left/anti-SJW sensibilities, but you're reading too much into the usage of a word. The term POC was used because it was appropriate for the context (as I explained in my reply to you and you conveniently ignored), not because I have an extreme left political orientation.

    Once again, to reiterate my original point. It is absurd for POC to assume that the western far-right in any way, shape or form represents their interests or at the very least is a neutral entity towards them. It is true that POC is a clumsy, extremely general term, but in this context it functions perfectly. The western far-right worldview is basically encapsulated as “whites vs all others”; therefore within this context, a pan non-white concept like POC is useful for working within such a stark, extremist ideological framework. What is playing out in the west right now is basically the west struggling with its own past actions; highly conscientious POC need to sit on the sidelines, shutup and let this play out on its own. There is no need to take sides here, the west made its own bed, let it sleep in it, this has nothing to do with POC.
     
    As for the west trying to make some effort to survive; I had never claimed that it should not. In fact I never made any argument to that effect in any of my comments on this article. In fact, I want you to prove me wrong. Since you seem so sure of your position, quote and paste where I clearly made an argument to the effect of the west should just give up and stop trying to survive. I'll be waiting.

    You need to work on your reading comprehension. Clearly I have been making the argument that POC (I hope you get triggered by this) need to stop trying to prop up the west by rubbing shoulders with the alt-right and should instead sit back and watch things play out. This is not their fight. Making this argument is completely different than what you were trying to imply I was saying.

    God, that's stupid

    In fact, looking at your history, you are a rare breed: you are a genuine, unironic anti-white crusader. You actually think there is something uniquely evil about “white people” and talk without any sense of contradiction that you have “extensive experience of white people.”

    The mind boggles.

    It was a mistake to give you any time at all.

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  57. Mike says:
    @TG
    Indeed. I would say this from a slightly different angle: forget about the details of politics: constitutional monarchy, parliamentary democracy, a republic, democratic socialism, even marxism, checks and balances, an independent judiciary, an independent central bank, a written constitution... all of these can be made to work, more or less, if the elites care about the nation as whole. And none of these will matter if the elites no longer care, if they value their own short-term profit over the long-term stability and strength of their nation.

    Back under FDR etc., the elites of this nation were worried about communists, and anarchists, and then Nazis. That made them care about this nation, they feared that if the nation went down they would go down as well. So they cared about the working class. I am old enough to remember when we used to celebrate that we had the highest wages in the world - that was considered a magnificent joint accomplishment and proof of the greatness of this nation. Now high American wages are routinely derided as evil, as proof that Americans are selfish and lazy and they need to be replaced by all those wonderful third-world refugees who have no alternative but to work for sub-poverty wages...

    I think the core of this rot is that the elites are no longer afraid. They no longer have reason to care. They live in gated estates, they fly from private airports (even first class in a public airport is not good enough/removed enough from the masses for them!), and if things fall apart they will just sail away in their yachts, tut-tutting about how Americans no longer deserve their presence...

    TG just a reality check.
    This nation was never intended to have elites. That is the reason for a federalist republic.
    No professional politicians, no state run schools and no illiterate voters.
    The downward spiral.
    ignorance of history and moral principals
    ignorance of the constitution
    Universal suffrage
    17th amendment direct voting for senators
    16 amendment direct taxation.
    Central bank with fractional reserve.
    and there with a dash of hubris you have the almighty US FEDGOV

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    This nation was never intended to have elites</blockquote

    This nation was never intended to be a nation. The Founders intended it to be a confederation of independent sovereign states. Which it was until the current rootless, criminal cabal took over in 1865.
     

     
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  58. BenKenobi says:
    @Linh Dinh
    Israel firster Bragadocious is greatly disturbed by me identifying the "rootless, criminal cabal," for he knows exactly who I'm talking about, and he shows his hand by citing the fake dissident, Noam Chomsky. Smug and pseudonymous in midtown Manhattan, he seethes at those who dare to lift the curtain to reveal his poisonous kind.

    Ok, fine. Now you wanna address his other points?

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  59. willpath says:
    @Bragadocious
    For years, I have also stressed that the United States is ruled by a rootless, criminal cabal, and for pointing out something so obvious, I have had countless slurs hurled at me

    Oh you brave, brave man. Noam Chomsky was saying the same stuff 40 years ago. But unlike Chomsky, you go for the throat of the common man, whose side you pretend to take. You're just like Michael Moore. You sit next to the proles at the local tavern, drink with them, laugh with them -- and then shiv them in the back in your next article. Maybe it didn't occur to you that they might support the troops not because they love military aggression but because one of their friends or relatives might be a veteran with a prosthetic leg or PTSD. But inhuman scum like you just spits on them as cheerleaders for the war machine.

    Michael Moore? Yeah, I guess.
    But you’re really thinking of that younger, more brilliant fellow, Kevin Williamson.

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  60. GammaRay says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    As I've said before, I give as much effort to a reply as I think a person deserves. Obviously you're not one of them, in no small part because of your insane fetish with "colonialism" - which I barely could care for.

    Indeed, colonialism can be plenty helpful for improving the condition of a population objectively, which is surprising given that its goal is traditionally extractive but when the native elite is so incompetent or even more extractive of their population, then it is a net benefit to the population.

    Not that I really care; I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with conquest. At the end of the day, competition is the means to determine which values and memes of humanity survive and by removing violence completely as a method, it leads to warping of the population.

    I'm descended from mandarins; I have a pretty clear line of family history as far back as the Yuan. We've done beautiful things - marvelous terraced farms, canals that remain to this day, and a slew of impressive artwork. We've done terrible things - kept generations of illiterate serfs and bondsmen. "European colonialism" may hurt us, but the Cultural Revolution did a lot more damage and almost wiped us out. And we've invaded Vietnam, and I don't regret it: Annam, the peaceful south. Had the Ming held it, had it remained Chinese, its hard to argue that it would not be wealthier and more beautiful than it is now.

    So no, I don't feel anything in common with your so-called POC. And your rants about colonialism only irritate me further. There are many terrible things in life and the world. And often, they are also beautiful and glorious things.

    LOL. This is hilarious, keep backtracking. You obviously care because you bothered to reply in the first place. Tellingly, you were unable to address the most cogent points in the argument that I brought up against you in my previous replies and instead prefer to dissemble about something that has nothing to do with the original point of discussion. Don’t think I didn’t notice the (clumsy) sleight of hand. You try to act as if you’re above replying to me but really the problem is that you’re unable to argue against the points that I made. Its really that simple. If you were able to disprove my arguments then you would already be doing that instead of talking in circles about it.

    Ethically speaking, colonialism is wrong. Doesnt matter who does it, white black or yellow. That being said, I understand the dark parts of human nature and why colonialism happens. Time and time again, I have clearly stated how the crux of my argument is the hypocrisy of the far-right when it comes to the topic of colonialism, not so much the act of colonialism itself. That’s it. And I couldn’t make my point any clearer. The onus falls on you, and not on I to correctly perceive this point. My problem is not that the west colonized the world (shit happens), my problem is that the far right wants to celebrate and condone colonialism (hence celebrate the historical destruction of other races and cultures) while simultaneously wanting to complain about their own racial displacement and cultural destruction (ironically brought about by globalization which in turn was brought about through western colonialism in the first place). The far-right has a major ideological consistency here which it is either blind to, or willfully ignores. I’m sorry but the western far-right can’t have its cake and eat it too. It needs to clearly decide how they feel about the ethics of colonization and then take a principled and consistent stance on it.

    Regardless, both in the comments for this post, and for the entirety of my posting history, my stance regarding colonization has been the same. It is you that has misunderstood it due to your faulty reading comprehension, and anybody who doubts my words is perfectly free to read my prior comments in this thread as well as look through my comment history as well. Therefore, the thrust of your reply completely misses the mark. I suspect however that your misunderstanding was intentional considering how clearly I made my point regarding colonialism in all of my posts. Regardless, why should anyone take what you have to say seriously when you have already demonstrated a clear tendency for poor reading comprehension or willful misperception? Don’t forget about this:

    You’re just as self-serving, except that you’ve apparently have a global image of “POC” being united for some reason. And evidently the West, which for whatever foibles it has, shouldn’t at least make an effort to survive?

    God, that’s stupid.

    As for the west trying to make some effort to survive; I had never claimed that it should not. In fact I never made any argument to that effect in any of my comments on this article. In fact, I want you to prove me wrong. Since you seem so sure of your position, quote and paste where I clearly made an argument to the effect of the west should just give up and stop trying to survive. I’ll be waiting.

    I’m still waiting for you to clearly provide proof of your assertion that I implied the west should just give up; which in fact I never wrote anything to the effect of that, but in your rush to debunk me, you obviously missed that. The alt-right always prides itself on relying strictly on the facts, so please live up to this ethos. Everything I wrote is an open book, either prove your assertions or admit that you can’t.

    So no, I don’t feel anything in common with your so-called POC. And your rants about colonialism only irritate me further. There are many terrible things in life and the world. And often, they are also beautiful and glorious things.

    Nor do you have to feel anything in common with so-called POC. Do you think I care what you feel? You vastly overestimate your own importance. Remember, it was you who went out of you way to start up this dialogue with me, not I. I’m glad that my “rants” regarding colonialism irritate you. That being said, if they irritate you so much, instead of responding to them, please ignore them from now on. You are aware that you are not obligated to reply to anything I write, right?

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    ' the far right wants to celebrate and condone colonialism (hence celebrate the historical destruction of other races and cultures) while simultaneously wanting to complain about their own racial displacement and cultural destruction'

    I agree. Anyone who's proud of 'conquering' the American Indian is a shitbag. But things get/are so complicated, e.g. with Jewish mind control, destruction of the Catholic Church (especially the first time, in the 16th century, but also since 1965), full blown globalisation, etc. In an ideal world (as ideal a world as humanly possible I think), we would live according to and in harmony with nature--precisely like the Indians once did. As it is, any attempts at back to nature or anything else e.g. white nationalism are futile. Master owns all, master controls all, including (especially) our minds. There is literally nothing to be done: you MUST be a part of this totally corrupt, hateful and evil system, or just stew in your juices till death releases you.
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  61. GammaRay says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    As I've said before, I give as much effort to a reply as I think a person deserves. Obviously you're not one of them, in no small part because of your insane fetish with "colonialism" - which I barely could care for.

    Indeed, colonialism can be plenty helpful for improving the condition of a population objectively, which is surprising given that its goal is traditionally extractive but when the native elite is so incompetent or even more extractive of their population, then it is a net benefit to the population.

    Not that I really care; I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with conquest. At the end of the day, competition is the means to determine which values and memes of humanity survive and by removing violence completely as a method, it leads to warping of the population.

    I'm descended from mandarins; I have a pretty clear line of family history as far back as the Yuan. We've done beautiful things - marvelous terraced farms, canals that remain to this day, and a slew of impressive artwork. We've done terrible things - kept generations of illiterate serfs and bondsmen. "European colonialism" may hurt us, but the Cultural Revolution did a lot more damage and almost wiped us out. And we've invaded Vietnam, and I don't regret it: Annam, the peaceful south. Had the Ming held it, had it remained Chinese, its hard to argue that it would not be wealthier and more beautiful than it is now.

    So no, I don't feel anything in common with your so-called POC. And your rants about colonialism only irritate me further. There are many terrible things in life and the world. And often, they are also beautiful and glorious things.

    True! There are many terrible things in life and the world, and also there are many glorious and beautiful things as well. I think it is beautiful that the west has lived at the expense of others for so long, and now we are reaching a point where everything that the west has done is now catching up with it in unexpected ways. It turns out the the universe has a sense of humor afterall. What goes up, must come down. This applies to all races and all civilizations. As humans, we must seek to live in harmony with each other, and not simply exploit and kill one another. There is beauty in seeking to rise above such primitive impulses, and if possible acting with understanding and compassion towards our fellow man. That is truly the meaning of “being civilized”.

    Truly I do not harbor ill-will against the west because it is western, rather I harbor ill-will towards the west because of its past actions and present attitudes. This is why I specifically target the far-right (because of their present attitudes about the west’s past actions), as opposed to attacking all western people. I especially have a soft-spot for westerners that are able to genuinely feel remorse about the past. I strongly believe in the concept of forgiveness and letting things go, provided that the sentiment is genuine and mutual. Actually on that topic; even indifference is an acceptable emotion. I think its stupid to morally hold westerners to past events when even they are indifferent about their own racial/cultural future. I only stick it to the far-right because they automatically incur higher moral/ethical standards for themselves to meet when they want to start talking about the importance of having moral rights for racial/cultural survival.

    That being said, the west has a tremendous amount of momentum from its past actions gathered against it; so it doesn’t really matter how I feel, the west will still have to deal with everything that is happening to it and what is going to happen to it in the future. Nothing you say or do will impact this in any way, so you might as well enjoy the ride instead of complaining that I am pointing out inconvenient truths which harm your delicate sensibilities. Ironically those who complain most about fragile SJW snowflakes are those who get triggered the easiest themselves :)

    In fact, looking at your history, you are a rare breed: you are a genuine, unironic anti-white crusader. You actually think there is something uniquely evil about “white people” and talk without any sense of contradiction that you have “extensive experience of white people.”

    The mind boggles.

    It was a mistake to give you any time at all.

    This is actually a lie what you have written. For your convenience, and for the convenience of anybody reading, I have provided the quote of what I had originally written which you are referring to:

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    @Wizard of Oz

    This is an interesting question and definitely worth looking into. That being said, I do not buy into the reasoning that an exploding british population is the only or even major reason behind colonization. From learning about european culture, and understanding the general weltanschauung of white people, as well as from having extensive social experience with them; it is clearly evident to me that there is a strong extraversive, expansive component that exists in the white collective consciousness which under certain circumstances strongly compels them to colonize, displace and replace much more so than other races would do so under similar circumstances. What alt-righters/WN would call “ambition” and “drive”, others might prefer to recognize it as “greed”. Regardless of the semantic trivialities; it is clear that there is a strong internal drive within westerners that causes them to vigorously pursue both the physical and cultural colonization of “the other”. This is not a negative or positive judgment though; it is merely intended to be understood as an objective observation.

    What I had written clearly strives to be dispassionate and objective as opposed to the maniacal and frothing at the mouth anti-white diatribe that you are attempting to make it out to be.

    Im sorry but the truth of the matter is that HBD is probably real; racial differences probably exist on a genetic level which influence the behavior and temperaments of different races and ethnic groups. The fact that whites are more likely to be domineering and have a tendency for colonizing “the other” does not make them evil; it is an impulse that can be channeled in both positive and negative ways. That being said, just because I bring up this inconvenient fact doesn’t automatically make me racist or “anti-white”. I am merely trying to work within a framework of reality, we have both multiple centuries of history to draw inferences from, as well as interpersonal anecdotal observations of white behavior both in real life as well as on the internet in spaces such as these. I don’t think its very controversial that I am making observations based on noticing patterns. I mean, is noticing patterns illegal or something undesirable?

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    You don't seem to be losing any sleep over the depredations committed by nonwhites against European peoples. You know - Huns, Turks, Mongols taking slaves, slaughtering left and right, etc. Invading European lands just because they could. Last I looked, "greed", which you appear to consider a purely white thing, was and is widely distributed over the earth.

    The major flaw of white people is their kindness toward other races. Bunch of saps is what we are and that is why we are going down the toilet.

    , @AaronB
    You raise some interesting points, but I wonder if what you call the "expansive" attitude of whites is really just seen in the physical and material realm.

    For instance, Asian civilizations were based on the idea of infinite spiritual expansion - which is basically expansion in the non-physical realm.

    But all life seems to want to expand, and its just a question if its physical or spiritual.

    So whites don't seem so much unusually expansionist as just being unique for applying this basic impulse of life to the material realm.

    On other threads I encourage whites who display an "expansionist" attitude because I think its a step in the direction of spiritual expansion - the only really bad thing is apathy, which is entropy.

    But Asian countries have shown themselves quite capable of being expansionist in the physical realm when seized by that impulse, such as Japan and today China.
    , @daniel le mouche
    'it is clear that there is a strong internal drive within westerners that causes them to vigorously pursue both the physical and cultural colonization of “the other”.'

    While in my post immediately above I'm in agreement with you, here I must part ways.
    You make a ridiculous blanket statement about westerners, specifically their 'strong internal drive'. I call this drivel, seemingly lifted verbatum from Edward Said.
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  62. Giuseppe says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    I hope you aren't named after the beer from Oregon. Great beer. I'd hate to think of you when I drink it.

    I hope you aren’t named after the beer from Oregon. Great beer. I’d hate to think of you when I drink it.

    That beer is named after a river contained in a deep and narrow gorge. Always think of the haunting beauty of the Pacific Northwest whenever you drink it, and forget about the folks in Portland and Seattle.

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  63. ANONYMOUS[782] • Disclaimer says:

    I salute you for your candor. More than twice your age, I knew that almost vanished society. And the sorrow overwhelms me at times; the sadness is for the younger generations. The more years in this new, hostile age, the greater my loathing for its architects grows. What do I press for? SECESSION, into a militarized ethno-state that ferociously guards its borders. The above essay states the situation and crisis well.

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  64. Linh said: “Castration is in.” In a sick country that still circumcises over 50% of its baby boys, it’s no wonder. Circumcision is only a small slip of the knife away from castration. Loosely speaking, the downfall of the late, great USA parallels the explosive rise in circumcision after WWII.

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    Circumcision is only a small slip of the knife away from castration. Loosely speaking, the downfall of the late, great USA parallels the explosive rise in circumcision after WWII.
     
    You can't really validly compare circumcision to castration because it is not an emasculation, circumcised men still father children. Rather, call it an odd cultural practice. While World War II greatly accelerated circumcision rates due its being required for servicemen, the practice had already reached 50% of newborns in the USA by about 1930. Some here erroneously suppose it was due to nefarious Jewish influence that Gentile America now circumcises its young, but I do not believe that was much of a factor in the beginning. The practice began before the large scale Jewish migrations from Europe and the Jews in America were then a tiny minority without political power. Rather, it was a Victorian over-reaction to the seismic paradigm shift brought about by Robert Koch's astonishing development of the germ theory of disease. Anything could now give you tuberculosis; women's hemlines, men's beards and boys' foreskins suffered a common fate as a result.
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  65. @deschutes
    Stupidest quote of the weekend, by Linh Dinh-

    " The transgender spiel is a part of the campaign against masculinity. Castration is in."

    That's right. All those transfolk just hate men, that's why they go to such pains to look like women. God, what an idiot. Dinh is right at home here at Unz.com.

    That, and 'shared bathrooms mean the death of a nation' :-D

    I can see why Dinh was booted off Counterpunch years ago :-D

    Making NYC-Hollywood defined cross-dressing sexual perversion mainstream is part of the Neo-left’s campaign to make western societal deconstruction normal. Your wig is too tight, perhaps.

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  66. Biff says:
    @Swan Knight
    Free shit. You can go back to watching CNN and reading Huffington Post

    Free = good?

    Stay right where you are! Don’t leave home!

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  67. denk says:

    As a toxic model, this criminal, decadent and deeply-confused nation can’t collapse soon enough.

    Trouble is, fukus might do some real damage to us innocent bystanders, before it finally goes down, if ever.

    Looks like its tiny Sweden that’d be genocided first.

    the Swedes are benign people who mind their own business, make love not war, unlike the damned 5lies.

    What a shame !

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/05/30/why-sweden-on-fast-track-national-suicide.html

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  68. Giuseppe says:
    @follyofwar
    Linh said: "Castration is in." In a sick country that still circumcises over 50% of its baby boys, it's no wonder. Circumcision is only a small slip of the knife away from castration. Loosely speaking, the downfall of the late, great USA parallels the explosive rise in circumcision after WWII.

    Circumcision is only a small slip of the knife away from castration. Loosely speaking, the downfall of the late, great USA parallels the explosive rise in circumcision after WWII.

    You can’t really validly compare circumcision to castration because it is not an emasculation, circumcised men still father children. Rather, call it an odd cultural practice. While World War II greatly accelerated circumcision rates due its being required for servicemen, the practice had already reached 50% of newborns in the USA by about 1930. Some here erroneously suppose it was due to nefarious Jewish influence that Gentile America now circumcises its young, but I do not believe that was much of a factor in the beginning. The practice began before the large scale Jewish migrations from Europe and the Jews in America were then a tiny minority without political power. Rather, it was a Victorian over-reaction to the seismic paradigm shift brought about by Robert Koch’s astonishing development of the germ theory of disease. Anything could now give you tuberculosis; women’s hemlines, men’s beards and boys’ foreskins suffered a common fate as a result.

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  69. Liza says:
    @GammaRay
    True! There are many terrible things in life and the world, and also there are many glorious and beautiful things as well. I think it is beautiful that the west has lived at the expense of others for so long, and now we are reaching a point where everything that the west has done is now catching up with it in unexpected ways. It turns out the the universe has a sense of humor afterall. What goes up, must come down. This applies to all races and all civilizations. As humans, we must seek to live in harmony with each other, and not simply exploit and kill one another. There is beauty in seeking to rise above such primitive impulses, and if possible acting with understanding and compassion towards our fellow man. That is truly the meaning of "being civilized".

    Truly I do not harbor ill-will against the west because it is western, rather I harbor ill-will towards the west because of its past actions and present attitudes. This is why I specifically target the far-right (because of their present attitudes about the west's past actions), as opposed to attacking all western people. I especially have a soft-spot for westerners that are able to genuinely feel remorse about the past. I strongly believe in the concept of forgiveness and letting things go, provided that the sentiment is genuine and mutual. Actually on that topic; even indifference is an acceptable emotion. I think its stupid to morally hold westerners to past events when even they are indifferent about their own racial/cultural future. I only stick it to the far-right because they automatically incur higher moral/ethical standards for themselves to meet when they want to start talking about the importance of having moral rights for racial/cultural survival.

    That being said, the west has a tremendous amount of momentum from its past actions gathered against it; so it doesn't really matter how I feel, the west will still have to deal with everything that is happening to it and what is going to happen to it in the future. Nothing you say or do will impact this in any way, so you might as well enjoy the ride instead of complaining that I am pointing out inconvenient truths which harm your delicate sensibilities. Ironically those who complain most about fragile SJW snowflakes are those who get triggered the easiest themselves :)

    In fact, looking at your history, you are a rare breed: you are a genuine, unironic anti-white crusader. You actually think there is something uniquely evil about “white people” and talk without any sense of contradiction that you have “extensive experience of white people.”

    The mind boggles.

    It was a mistake to give you any time at all.
     
    This is actually a lie what you have written. For your convenience, and for the convenience of anybody reading, I have provided the quote of what I had originally written which you are referring to:


    GammaRay says:
    April 29, 2018 at 7:04 pm GMT • 200 Words
    @Wizard of Oz

    This is an interesting question and definitely worth looking into. That being said, I do not buy into the reasoning that an exploding british population is the only or even major reason behind colonization. From learning about european culture, and understanding the general weltanschauung of white people, as well as from having extensive social experience with them; it is clearly evident to me that there is a strong extraversive, expansive component that exists in the white collective consciousness which under certain circumstances strongly compels them to colonize, displace and replace much more so than other races would do so under similar circumstances. What alt-righters/WN would call “ambition” and “drive”, others might prefer to recognize it as “greed”. Regardless of the semantic trivialities; it is clear that there is a strong internal drive within westerners that causes them to vigorously pursue both the physical and cultural colonization of “the other”. This is not a negative or positive judgment though; it is merely intended to be understood as an objective observation.
     
    What I had written clearly strives to be dispassionate and objective as opposed to the maniacal and frothing at the mouth anti-white diatribe that you are attempting to make it out to be.

    Im sorry but the truth of the matter is that HBD is probably real; racial differences probably exist on a genetic level which influence the behavior and temperaments of different races and ethnic groups. The fact that whites are more likely to be domineering and have a tendency for colonizing "the other" does not make them evil; it is an impulse that can be channeled in both positive and negative ways. That being said, just because I bring up this inconvenient fact doesn't automatically make me racist or "anti-white". I am merely trying to work within a framework of reality, we have both multiple centuries of history to draw inferences from, as well as interpersonal anecdotal observations of white behavior both in real life as well as on the internet in spaces such as these. I don't think its very controversial that I am making observations based on noticing patterns. I mean, is noticing patterns illegal or something undesirable?

    You don’t seem to be losing any sleep over the depredations committed by nonwhites against European peoples. You know – Huns, Turks, Mongols taking slaves, slaughtering left and right, etc. Invading European lands just because they could. Last I looked, “greed”, which you appear to consider a purely white thing, was and is widely distributed over the earth.

    The major flaw of white people is their kindness toward other races. Bunch of saps is what we are and that is why we are going down the toilet.

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    You don’t seem to be losing any sleep over the depredations committed by nonwhites against European peoples. You know – Huns, Turks, Mongols taking slaves, slaughtering left and right, etc. Invading European lands just because they could. Last I looked, “greed”, which you appear to consider a purely white thing, was and is widely distributed over the earth.
     
    The difference between white nationalists and myself is that I won't hesitate to condemn immorality or unethical actions, no matter what race or ethnic group is committing them. If the huns, turks, mongols etc really attacked european people for no reason at all then yes, I would not hesitate to condemn those actions. Wrong is wrong. Its really not that hard to evenly apply morality. Non-white depredations against europeans were wrong, european colonization against literally the entire world was also wrong. Honestly assigning blame is not some zero sum game like white nationalists like to imagine it is. What white nationalists don't understand is that there are actually some people out there who are capable of impartially judging situations instead of instantly taking the side of their own race no matter what.

    Also you need to work on your reading comprehension instead of letting your emotions contort meanings out of words that aren't really there. Here is the quote you are referring to in its entirety:

    This is an interesting question and definitely worth looking into. That being said, I do not buy into the reasoning that an exploding british population is the only or even major reason behind colonization. From learning about european culture, and understanding the general weltanschauung of white people, as well as from having extensive social experience with them; it is clearly evident to me that there is a strong extraversive, expansive component that exists in the white collective consciousness which under certain circumstances strongly compels them to colonize, displace and replace much more so than other races would do so under similar circumstances. What alt-righters/WN would call “ambition” and “drive”, others might prefer to recognize it as “greed”. Regardless of the semantic trivialities; it is clear that there is a strong internal drive within westerners that causes them to vigorously pursue both the physical and cultural colonization of “the other”. This is not a negative or positive judgment though; it is merely intended to be understood as an objective observation.
     
    You were trying to imply that I was saying that whites are the only people that are greedy, however this is clearly not what I was saying. As you can see in the bolded part of the paragraph, in italics I had written the qualifier "much more so than other races"; thus this implies that other races are capable of ambition/drive/greed (whatever you want to call it), however whites just seem to have more of this quality, which is what led them to colonize the entire world. Therefore the thrust of my paragraph is significantly different than what you are making it out to be, and this is plain to see. Before you criticize what someone else has said, carefully examine what they are saying to make sure that your criticism is actually accurate.

    The major flaw of white people is their kindness toward other races. Bunch of saps is what we are and that is why we are going down the toilet.
     
    I disagree with this. Historically speaking, whites have been anything but kind towards other races. Unless you count invading, colonizing, exploiting, displacing, enslaving and genociding as "kindness". Its these kind of disingenuous white nationalist quips that make you all hard to take seriously. Whats more incredulous is that you unironically believe what you are saying.

    The reason you all are going down the toilet is because the you opened up pandora's box with colonizing the entire world, you created this monster called globalization which in turn lead to multiculturalism and mass immigration. Had the european colonizers stayed in their own countries then the east asians would still be existing in their long slumber, africans would still be eking out a relatively primitive existence, and the native americans/meso-americans would still be living as perpetually conflicting hunter gatherer tribes/agriculturalists, etc etc. It was the west that modernized and globalized the rest of the world at literal gunpoint. You wanted a global empire and you got one, so why are you complaining? This is the end result of europeans colonizing the entire globe; the west made the world a much smaller place, the west put in place the technological and institutional framework for mass immigration to happen around the world, the west has no one to blame but itself for the current state of affairs, so why are you trying to act like the victim here?
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  70. @Linh Dinh
    Israel firster Bragadocious is greatly disturbed by me identifying the "rootless, criminal cabal," for he knows exactly who I'm talking about, and he shows his hand by citing the fake dissident, Noam Chomsky. Smug and pseudonymous in midtown Manhattan, he seethes at those who dare to lift the curtain to reveal his poisonous kind.

    Linh you are an extraordinary man.Totally agree with your article and about the rootless,criminal cabal which controls us.And love how you expose Bragadocious for what IT is.May God bless and protect you so that you may continue to honor us with your writing.Thank you.

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  71. Anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    I hope to meet Linh Dinh sometime in person.

    He is a very honorable, honest man who writes what he sees and says what he thinks.

    He minds me a lot of VS Nepaul – A Bend in the River and what was his book about traveling in the US South in the mid 1980s….

    “A Tour in the South”.

    So much of our political hopelessness is the two party system, where the scramble is on to get 50% plus votes, it’s that or nothing.

    Mostly we get nothing.

    So sad that blue collar honest working Americans have the choice between PC, Antifa, cult marxism that hates them and…

    Neo Conservatives war mongering that only serves the Zionists and military industrialists.

    And if you don’t go with one of these groups you risk…

    Becoming homeless or thinking about getting out of the country to go some place better, like….

    Viet Nam.

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  72. anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    Nah, this Vietnamese American writer has it right, you’re just falling down in to typical Toby Keith, Hank Williams knee jerk reaction to cheer on all USA Neo Conservative Zionists military misadventures.

    Why don’t you and people like you “Support our troops”, Support your friends and neighbors in the military who get killed and maimed by working to end these endless Neo Conservative Zionist misadventures?

    Donald Trump won the presidency on the issues of ending

    Invade the world
    Invite the world

    So just do the basics, support an American first foreign and domestic policies.

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  73. @JohnnyWalker123
    Exactly. America's leaders behave criminally because they're not scared of the population. So there's nothing to constrain our leaders from behaving like grifters and conmen.

    At some point, however, this will come to an end. Our massively skyrocketing national debt is totally unpayable, so investors will eventually stop buying our bonds. When that happens, our national economy and standard of living will collapse dramatically.

    It's at that point when our leaders are either put in jail or flee the country.

    It’s at that point when our leaders are either put in jail or flee the country.

    Not so simple.

    The little people are already turning to opioid addiction from despair…that will increase.

    And, the super-wealthy will always be able to hire psychopaths who are class and race-traitors to protect them and their stuff.

    Very few people will fight back until things are beyond bleak, unfortunately.

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  74. anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:

    As a toxic model, this criminal, decadent and deeply-confused nation can’t collapse soon enough.

    Hey wait a minute, I live here. Collapse would be catastrophic not only for us but for the entire planet. Remember, the US is armed up to it’s eyeballs with nuclear weapons and for a state like that to become unstable would pose a threat to the entire planet so let’s be careful in what we wish for. Besides, there’s cause for optimism. The current degradation is an outgrowth of the past. At present changes have been rumbling but their fruition takes years to become apparent. The Red Guard are now being dismantled even as they fight every inch of the way. Let’s not give up just yet, this is all worth fighting for to reclaim. Wait thirty years and let’s see what we have.

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  75. Good essay. Couldn’t agree less though on some of the stuff.

    For all their arrogance East Asians still have not learned basic things. Their societies have only prospered to the degree they have aped the west. There is nothing new coming out of there. Japan has still not digested their 90′s bubble nearly 30 years on. China is on a speedy vector to the same place.

    Over the last 800 years it is only the West that has been able to continually renew itself from its own internal creativity. The sense of chaos which now abounds arises from the current round of renewal. The marxist disease of the last 100 years is at last being fully and permanently rejected by the host.

    Likely this will be another Anglo Saxon century. You know, like the five preceding ones.

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    'Over the last 800 years it is only the West that has been able to continually renew itself from its own internal creativity. The sense of chaos which now abounds arises from the current round of renewal. The marxist disease of the last 100 years is at last being fully and permanently rejected by the host.
    Likely this will be another Anglo Saxon century. You know, like the five preceding ones.'

    There's some truth in that. But all Anglo-Saxon? Surely the Germans and French had something to do with it, the Italians and Spanish too, and many (or all) others in Europe, including of course Russia. Look, for one example, at the Irish in America. Anglo-Saxons, however, take the prize hands down for arrogance and ego.
    , @denk

    Likely this will be another Anglo Saxon century. You know, like the five preceding ones.
     
    I can understand your enthusiasm to perpetuate this pax Brittanica/murikka franchise, its fun to be the ones dissing it out.

    As for those who have been dodging your bombs and suffering your incessant bullshits...

    This criminal, decadent and deeply-confused nation just can’t collapse soon enough.
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  76. AaronB says:
    @GammaRay
    True! There are many terrible things in life and the world, and also there are many glorious and beautiful things as well. I think it is beautiful that the west has lived at the expense of others for so long, and now we are reaching a point where everything that the west has done is now catching up with it in unexpected ways. It turns out the the universe has a sense of humor afterall. What goes up, must come down. This applies to all races and all civilizations. As humans, we must seek to live in harmony with each other, and not simply exploit and kill one another. There is beauty in seeking to rise above such primitive impulses, and if possible acting with understanding and compassion towards our fellow man. That is truly the meaning of "being civilized".

    Truly I do not harbor ill-will against the west because it is western, rather I harbor ill-will towards the west because of its past actions and present attitudes. This is why I specifically target the far-right (because of their present attitudes about the west's past actions), as opposed to attacking all western people. I especially have a soft-spot for westerners that are able to genuinely feel remorse about the past. I strongly believe in the concept of forgiveness and letting things go, provided that the sentiment is genuine and mutual. Actually on that topic; even indifference is an acceptable emotion. I think its stupid to morally hold westerners to past events when even they are indifferent about their own racial/cultural future. I only stick it to the far-right because they automatically incur higher moral/ethical standards for themselves to meet when they want to start talking about the importance of having moral rights for racial/cultural survival.

    That being said, the west has a tremendous amount of momentum from its past actions gathered against it; so it doesn't really matter how I feel, the west will still have to deal with everything that is happening to it and what is going to happen to it in the future. Nothing you say or do will impact this in any way, so you might as well enjoy the ride instead of complaining that I am pointing out inconvenient truths which harm your delicate sensibilities. Ironically those who complain most about fragile SJW snowflakes are those who get triggered the easiest themselves :)

    In fact, looking at your history, you are a rare breed: you are a genuine, unironic anti-white crusader. You actually think there is something uniquely evil about “white people” and talk without any sense of contradiction that you have “extensive experience of white people.”

    The mind boggles.

    It was a mistake to give you any time at all.
     
    This is actually a lie what you have written. For your convenience, and for the convenience of anybody reading, I have provided the quote of what I had originally written which you are referring to:


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    @Wizard of Oz

    This is an interesting question and definitely worth looking into. That being said, I do not buy into the reasoning that an exploding british population is the only or even major reason behind colonization. From learning about european culture, and understanding the general weltanschauung of white people, as well as from having extensive social experience with them; it is clearly evident to me that there is a strong extraversive, expansive component that exists in the white collective consciousness which under certain circumstances strongly compels them to colonize, displace and replace much more so than other races would do so under similar circumstances. What alt-righters/WN would call “ambition” and “drive”, others might prefer to recognize it as “greed”. Regardless of the semantic trivialities; it is clear that there is a strong internal drive within westerners that causes them to vigorously pursue both the physical and cultural colonization of “the other”. This is not a negative or positive judgment though; it is merely intended to be understood as an objective observation.
     
    What I had written clearly strives to be dispassionate and objective as opposed to the maniacal and frothing at the mouth anti-white diatribe that you are attempting to make it out to be.

    Im sorry but the truth of the matter is that HBD is probably real; racial differences probably exist on a genetic level which influence the behavior and temperaments of different races and ethnic groups. The fact that whites are more likely to be domineering and have a tendency for colonizing "the other" does not make them evil; it is an impulse that can be channeled in both positive and negative ways. That being said, just because I bring up this inconvenient fact doesn't automatically make me racist or "anti-white". I am merely trying to work within a framework of reality, we have both multiple centuries of history to draw inferences from, as well as interpersonal anecdotal observations of white behavior both in real life as well as on the internet in spaces such as these. I don't think its very controversial that I am making observations based on noticing patterns. I mean, is noticing patterns illegal or something undesirable?

    You raise some interesting points, but I wonder if what you call the “expansive” attitude of whites is really just seen in the physical and material realm.

    For instance, Asian civilizations were based on the idea of infinite spiritual expansion – which is basically expansion in the non-physical realm.

    But all life seems to want to expand, and its just a question if its physical or spiritual.

    So whites don’t seem so much unusually expansionist as just being unique for applying this basic impulse of life to the material realm.

    On other threads I encourage whites who display an “expansionist” attitude because I think its a step in the direction of spiritual expansion – the only really bad thing is apathy, which is entropy.

    But Asian countries have shown themselves quite capable of being expansionist in the physical realm when seized by that impulse, such as Japan and today China.

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    Interesting insights, they are definitely something worth thinking about more. I do agree with your thesis that whites need to adopt a more spiritual (less materialist) perspective. I think this would go a long way for helping bring the west back into harmony with the natural world as well as with their brothers and sisters from other races. Currently there is a lot of turmoil going on in this world, but this is only because with european colonialism came a great global disruption and disbalancing, frankly im not surprised that we are still feeling the reverberations centuries later. Only time will tell how things turn out

    But Asian countries have shown themselves quite capable of being expansionist in the physical realm when seized by that impulse, such as Japan and today China.
     
    Japan does have a track record for being the most expansionist out of all of the east asian countries; that being said, Japan's latest imperial endeavors in the early 20th century was more so done as a reactionary policy as opposed to a genuine, internally motivated one (IE colonize others and get strong or else get colonized by the europeans yourself).

    As for china, the history of that country is very long indeed; I would say the great size of china is more due to incidental factors (warring and usurpation between regional kingdoms) as opposed to being an intentional policy of expansion (this is my impression based upon a cursory reading of chinese history, if I am incorrect about this then I welcome any corrections on the matter). Furthermore, with regards to the modern age with something like tibet, this IMO is also a form of "reactionary colonialism" as opposed to true blue, internally motivated colonialism. By that I am referring to the fact that the modern chinese government is basically forced to stabilize and colonize tibet, otherwise the USA through the CIA would destabilize tibet and use it as a launching platform against china. I strongly suspect that china would have a much more liberal and hands off policy towards tibet were it not for the USA constantly trying to create problems for china in its own backyard.
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  77. 0352 says:
    @GammaRay
    Actually I think that the "rootless, criminal cabal" are great for their subtle infiltration and subversion of the west. The west has spent literal centuries wrecking and exploiting other countries (including vietnam), and now it is basically getting its comeuppance. Why are you mad about this? What we are seeing play out currently is simply a balancing act, no more and no less. The west has been living on credit for centuries, but now its having to pay back its debts. Seems pretty fair to me. The majority of (non-immigrant) westerners are completely indifferent to the whole state of affairs, while the vocal minority of westerners who oppose the current state of affairs and the destruction of their own culture don't hesitate to condone and celebrate the destruction of countless other cultures at the hands of the west. Their philosophy and outlook is self-serving in the extreme. All these smug alt-righters that you think of as your allies wouldn't hesitate to throw you under the bus if they thought it was good for western civilization.

    Most westerners could give two shits about the current direction of the west, hence the negative reactions you get when you try to reveal inconvenient facts about the current direction of the west. If they don't care, then why should you? The sheer weight of historical consequence virtually demands the current changes that we are seeing. Even those on the far-right are unable to affect things due to their own irrationality, hubris and self defeating actions (look at how many on the far right support trump even though he is an obvious zionist puppet and trojan horse). Its apparent to me that the west is in intractable decline and has no one to blame but itself. Also just to reiterate this point; IF the west was resurgent, then colonialism/empire building would inevitably rear its ugly head again. POC who advocate for western civilization seem to ignore this point. Many on the alt-right are entirely sympathetic to the idea of colonialism (as long as its white people doing it and no one else); and these are the precise people who would be in charge if the west actually had an unapologetic resurgence. As a POC, you're basically cucking yourself by supporting the alt-right/west civ project. I know that you are stubborn and prideful, so you will effectively shut out what I am telling you, but I felt it was worth telling you this anyways on the off chance that you might see things from a different perspective.

    Gamma,
    The western world is collapsing, not because if colonialism, imperialism or any other “ism” for that matter. It is collapsing because of unfettered immigration by non-whites brought on by the evil cabal of the Federal government and big business. The out of control national debt certainly doesn’t help our situation in the west but it COULD be dealt with, had the evil cabal not brought tens of millions of non-white people to the west. The west will eventually implode (riots, racial and class civil war, etc.) due to the inability or conscious refusal of all of those immigrants to assimilate. Germany is the prime example. Muslim men regularly raping and murdering WHITE German women. France, Sweden, The Netherlands, Belgium and others, are all in the same dire straits. At least Hungary and Austria are starting to understand the danger. As for Vietnam, screw it! It’s a worthless POS country the US should have left to its own destiny. LBJ burns in Hell for this and his many other sins against this once-great USA.

    You have an obvious hatred for the US and the west. Take your hatred elsewhere.

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  78. bluedog says:
    @JMcG
    Back under FDR the elites of this nation WERE communist.

    Sure they were and FDR was a little green man from Mars,they did just what they are doing today buy the politicans and ride the glory train.!!!

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  79. @GammaRay
    LOL. This is hilarious, keep backtracking. You obviously care because you bothered to reply in the first place. Tellingly, you were unable to address the most cogent points in the argument that I brought up against you in my previous replies and instead prefer to dissemble about something that has nothing to do with the original point of discussion. Don't think I didn't notice the (clumsy) sleight of hand. You try to act as if you're above replying to me but really the problem is that you're unable to argue against the points that I made. Its really that simple. If you were able to disprove my arguments then you would already be doing that instead of talking in circles about it.

    Ethically speaking, colonialism is wrong. Doesnt matter who does it, white black or yellow. That being said, I understand the dark parts of human nature and why colonialism happens. Time and time again, I have clearly stated how the crux of my argument is the hypocrisy of the far-right when it comes to the topic of colonialism, not so much the act of colonialism itself. That's it. And I couldn't make my point any clearer. The onus falls on you, and not on I to correctly perceive this point. My problem is not that the west colonized the world (shit happens), my problem is that the far right wants to celebrate and condone colonialism (hence celebrate the historical destruction of other races and cultures) while simultaneously wanting to complain about their own racial displacement and cultural destruction (ironically brought about by globalization which in turn was brought about through western colonialism in the first place). The far-right has a major ideological consistency here which it is either blind to, or willfully ignores. I'm sorry but the western far-right can't have its cake and eat it too. It needs to clearly decide how they feel about the ethics of colonization and then take a principled and consistent stance on it.

    Regardless, both in the comments for this post, and for the entirety of my posting history, my stance regarding colonization has been the same. It is you that has misunderstood it due to your faulty reading comprehension, and anybody who doubts my words is perfectly free to read my prior comments in this thread as well as look through my comment history as well. Therefore, the thrust of your reply completely misses the mark. I suspect however that your misunderstanding was intentional considering how clearly I made my point regarding colonialism in all of my posts. Regardless, why should anyone take what you have to say seriously when you have already demonstrated a clear tendency for poor reading comprehension or willful misperception? Don't forget about this:


    You’re just as self-serving, except that you’ve apparently have a global image of “POC” being united for some reason. And evidently the West, which for whatever foibles it has, shouldn’t at least make an effort to survive?

    God, that’s stupid
    .
     
    As for the west trying to make some effort to survive; I had never claimed that it should not. In fact I never made any argument to that effect in any of my comments on this article. In fact, I want you to prove me wrong. Since you seem so sure of your position, quote and paste where I clearly made an argument to the effect of the west should just give up and stop trying to survive. I’ll be waiting.
     
    I'm still waiting for you to clearly provide proof of your assertion that I implied the west should just give up; which in fact I never wrote anything to the effect of that, but in your rush to debunk me, you obviously missed that. The alt-right always prides itself on relying strictly on the facts, so please live up to this ethos. Everything I wrote is an open book, either prove your assertions or admit that you can't.

    So no, I don’t feel anything in common with your so-called POC. And your rants about colonialism only irritate me further. There are many terrible things in life and the world. And often, they are also beautiful and glorious things.
     
    Nor do you have to feel anything in common with so-called POC. Do you think I care what you feel? You vastly overestimate your own importance. Remember, it was you who went out of you way to start up this dialogue with me, not I. I'm glad that my "rants" regarding colonialism irritate you. That being said, if they irritate you so much, instead of responding to them, please ignore them from now on. You are aware that you are not obligated to reply to anything I write, right?

    ‘ the far right wants to celebrate and condone colonialism (hence celebrate the historical destruction of other races and cultures) while simultaneously wanting to complain about their own racial displacement and cultural destruction’

    I agree. Anyone who’s proud of ‘conquering’ the American Indian is a shitbag. But things get/are so complicated, e.g. with Jewish mind control, destruction of the Catholic Church (especially the first time, in the 16th century, but also since 1965), full blown globalisation, etc. In an ideal world (as ideal a world as humanly possible I think), we would live according to and in harmony with nature–precisely like the Indians once did. As it is, any attempts at back to nature or anything else e.g. white nationalism are futile. Master owns all, master controls all, including (especially) our minds. There is literally nothing to be done: you MUST be a part of this totally corrupt, hateful and evil system, or just stew in your juices till death releases you.

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  80. @GammaRay
    True! There are many terrible things in life and the world, and also there are many glorious and beautiful things as well. I think it is beautiful that the west has lived at the expense of others for so long, and now we are reaching a point where everything that the west has done is now catching up with it in unexpected ways. It turns out the the universe has a sense of humor afterall. What goes up, must come down. This applies to all races and all civilizations. As humans, we must seek to live in harmony with each other, and not simply exploit and kill one another. There is beauty in seeking to rise above such primitive impulses, and if possible acting with understanding and compassion towards our fellow man. That is truly the meaning of "being civilized".

    Truly I do not harbor ill-will against the west because it is western, rather I harbor ill-will towards the west because of its past actions and present attitudes. This is why I specifically target the far-right (because of their present attitudes about the west's past actions), as opposed to attacking all western people. I especially have a soft-spot for westerners that are able to genuinely feel remorse about the past. I strongly believe in the concept of forgiveness and letting things go, provided that the sentiment is genuine and mutual. Actually on that topic; even indifference is an acceptable emotion. I think its stupid to morally hold westerners to past events when even they are indifferent about their own racial/cultural future. I only stick it to the far-right because they automatically incur higher moral/ethical standards for themselves to meet when they want to start talking about the importance of having moral rights for racial/cultural survival.

    That being said, the west has a tremendous amount of momentum from its past actions gathered against it; so it doesn't really matter how I feel, the west will still have to deal with everything that is happening to it and what is going to happen to it in the future. Nothing you say or do will impact this in any way, so you might as well enjoy the ride instead of complaining that I am pointing out inconvenient truths which harm your delicate sensibilities. Ironically those who complain most about fragile SJW snowflakes are those who get triggered the easiest themselves :)

    In fact, looking at your history, you are a rare breed: you are a genuine, unironic anti-white crusader. You actually think there is something uniquely evil about “white people” and talk without any sense of contradiction that you have “extensive experience of white people.”

    The mind boggles.

    It was a mistake to give you any time at all.
     
    This is actually a lie what you have written. For your convenience, and for the convenience of anybody reading, I have provided the quote of what I had originally written which you are referring to:


    GammaRay says:
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    @Wizard of Oz

    This is an interesting question and definitely worth looking into. That being said, I do not buy into the reasoning that an exploding british population is the only or even major reason behind colonization. From learning about european culture, and understanding the general weltanschauung of white people, as well as from having extensive social experience with them; it is clearly evident to me that there is a strong extraversive, expansive component that exists in the white collective consciousness which under certain circumstances strongly compels them to colonize, displace and replace much more so than other races would do so under similar circumstances. What alt-righters/WN would call “ambition” and “drive”, others might prefer to recognize it as “greed”. Regardless of the semantic trivialities; it is clear that there is a strong internal drive within westerners that causes them to vigorously pursue both the physical and cultural colonization of “the other”. This is not a negative or positive judgment though; it is merely intended to be understood as an objective observation.
     
    What I had written clearly strives to be dispassionate and objective as opposed to the maniacal and frothing at the mouth anti-white diatribe that you are attempting to make it out to be.

    Im sorry but the truth of the matter is that HBD is probably real; racial differences probably exist on a genetic level which influence the behavior and temperaments of different races and ethnic groups. The fact that whites are more likely to be domineering and have a tendency for colonizing "the other" does not make them evil; it is an impulse that can be channeled in both positive and negative ways. That being said, just because I bring up this inconvenient fact doesn't automatically make me racist or "anti-white". I am merely trying to work within a framework of reality, we have both multiple centuries of history to draw inferences from, as well as interpersonal anecdotal observations of white behavior both in real life as well as on the internet in spaces such as these. I don't think its very controversial that I am making observations based on noticing patterns. I mean, is noticing patterns illegal or something undesirable?

    ‘it is clear that there is a strong internal drive within westerners that causes them to vigorously pursue both the physical and cultural colonization of “the other”.’

    While in my post immediately above I’m in agreement with you, here I must part ways.
    You make a ridiculous blanket statement about westerners, specifically their ‘strong internal drive’. I call this drivel, seemingly lifted verbatum from Edward Said.

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  81. @Leander Starr
    Good essay. Couldn't agree less though on some of the stuff.

    For all their arrogance East Asians still have not learned basic things. Their societies have only prospered to the degree they have aped the west. There is nothing new coming out of there. Japan has still not digested their 90's bubble nearly 30 years on. China is on a speedy vector to the same place.

    Over the last 800 years it is only the West that has been able to continually renew itself from its own internal creativity. The sense of chaos which now abounds arises from the current round of renewal. The marxist disease of the last 100 years is at last being fully and permanently rejected by the host.

    Likely this will be another Anglo Saxon century. You know, like the five preceding ones.

    ‘Over the last 800 years it is only the West that has been able to continually renew itself from its own internal creativity. The sense of chaos which now abounds arises from the current round of renewal. The marxist disease of the last 100 years is at last being fully and permanently rejected by the host.
    Likely this will be another Anglo Saxon century. You know, like the five preceding ones.’

    There’s some truth in that. But all Anglo-Saxon? Surely the Germans and French had something to do with it, the Italians and Spanish too, and many (or all) others in Europe, including of course Russia. Look, for one example, at the Irish in America. Anglo-Saxons, however, take the prize hands down for arrogance and ego.

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    Anglo-Saxons, however, take the prize hands down for arrogance and ego.
     
    uk minister of Offence...

    https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.06/article/5b1512c8dda4c8761d8b461f.jpg

    We believe nations should follow agreed rules, but this is being ignored by some and what this does is it undermines peace and prosperity of all nations.

    We have to make it clear that nations need to play by the rules and that there are consequences for not doing so


    cough cough.......
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  82. denk says:
    @daniel le mouche
    'Over the last 800 years it is only the West that has been able to continually renew itself from its own internal creativity. The sense of chaos which now abounds arises from the current round of renewal. The marxist disease of the last 100 years is at last being fully and permanently rejected by the host.
    Likely this will be another Anglo Saxon century. You know, like the five preceding ones.'

    There's some truth in that. But all Anglo-Saxon? Surely the Germans and French had something to do with it, the Italians and Spanish too, and many (or all) others in Europe, including of course Russia. Look, for one example, at the Irish in America. Anglo-Saxons, however, take the prize hands down for arrogance and ego.

    Anglo-Saxons, however, take the prize hands down for arrogance and ego.

    uk minister of Offence…

    We believe nations should follow agreed rules, but this is being ignored by some and what this does is it undermines peace and prosperity of all nations.

    We have to make it clear that nations need to play by the rules and that there are consequences for not doing so

    cough cough…….

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    Anglo-Saxons, however, take the prize hands down for arrogance and ego.
     
    http://www.maxkeiser.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Screen-Shot-2016-05-16-at-2.43.57-PM-400x201.jpg


    Hillary the enforcer Clinton, speaking to full house in Oz and NZ.....

    yOU MUST STAND UP TO INSIDIOUS CHINESE INTERFERENCE.

    Nobody in the crowd had the balls to ask the enforcer,
    'But talking about interference, wasnt Washington who's responsible for toppling Gould Whitlam, Kevin Rudd in Oz and David Lange in NZ, ?'

    iN fact they paid a premium to be lectured by the proconsul on how to stand up to foreign 'interference'.

    hehehhe
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  83. Duncan says:

    This article is ripe with observations the New York-Washington-Hollyweird axis of information won’t come within a thousand miles of even talking about.
    America is dead in all but name. The government is still here. The civilization is gone.
    Calling yourself an American doesn’t mean anything, at least for me.
    Living in a minority-majority area I have a birds eye view of the disintegration. plus the drug epidemic, plus the media sanctioned feminism.
    Just sit back and laugh. What else can you do?

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  84. Roger D says:
    @Bragadocious
    For years, I have also stressed that the United States is ruled by a rootless, criminal cabal, and for pointing out something so obvious, I have had countless slurs hurled at me

    Oh you brave, brave man. Noam Chomsky was saying the same stuff 40 years ago. But unlike Chomsky, you go for the throat of the common man, whose side you pretend to take. You're just like Michael Moore. You sit next to the proles at the local tavern, drink with them, laugh with them -- and then shiv them in the back in your next article. Maybe it didn't occur to you that they might support the troops not because they love military aggression but because one of their friends or relatives might be a veteran with a prosthetic leg or PTSD. But inhuman scum like you just spits on them as cheerleaders for the war machine.

    Soldiers fights not for their country, they fight for their government and brothers-in-arms. In the case of US soldiers, they fight for the wants of Washington and Tel Aviv. The whole phony ‘War on Terror’ is based on deceit. Most US soldiers don’t even know how many towers were taken down on 9/11. If they did their duty of due diligence the veterans you refer to would not have prosthetic legs or be suffering from PTSD. What about the thousands of soldiers who lost their lives? Stop waving the flag like sheep and wake up to the truth!

    Over 3,000 members of Architects and Engineers for Truth about 9/11 have evidence that the three towers were brought down by controlled demolition. The level of wickedness was unfathomable. But yes, the official government story that Muslim hijackers were responsible for the towers collapsing is a myth. I urge others to do their own due diligence about 9/11. At stake is the sheer foundation for 17 years of wars. Millions have been killed, maimed or displaced and the carnage continues under Trump.

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  85. GammaRay says:
    @Liza
    You don't seem to be losing any sleep over the depredations committed by nonwhites against European peoples. You know - Huns, Turks, Mongols taking slaves, slaughtering left and right, etc. Invading European lands just because they could. Last I looked, "greed", which you appear to consider a purely white thing, was and is widely distributed over the earth.

    The major flaw of white people is their kindness toward other races. Bunch of saps is what we are and that is why we are going down the toilet.

    You don’t seem to be losing any sleep over the depredations committed by nonwhites against European peoples. You know – Huns, Turks, Mongols taking slaves, slaughtering left and right, etc. Invading European lands just because they could. Last I looked, “greed”, which you appear to consider a purely white thing, was and is widely distributed over the earth.

    The difference between white nationalists and myself is that I won’t hesitate to condemn immorality or unethical actions, no matter what race or ethnic group is committing them. If the huns, turks, mongols etc really attacked european people for no reason at all then yes, I would not hesitate to condemn those actions. Wrong is wrong. Its really not that hard to evenly apply morality. Non-white depredations against europeans were wrong, european colonization against literally the entire world was also wrong. Honestly assigning blame is not some zero sum game like white nationalists like to imagine it is. What white nationalists don’t understand is that there are actually some people out there who are capable of impartially judging situations instead of instantly taking the side of their own race no matter what.

    Also you need to work on your reading comprehension instead of letting your emotions contort meanings out of words that aren’t really there. Here is the quote you are referring to in its entirety:

    This is an interesting question and definitely worth looking into. That being said, I do not buy into the reasoning that an exploding british population is the only or even major reason behind colonization. From learning about european culture, and understanding the general weltanschauung of white people, as well as from having extensive social experience with them; it is clearly evident to me that there is a strong extraversive, expansive component that exists in the white collective consciousness which under certain circumstances strongly compels them to colonize, displace and replace much more so than other races would do so under similar circumstances. What alt-righters/WN would call “ambition” and “drive”, others might prefer to recognize it as “greed”. Regardless of the semantic trivialities; it is clear that there is a strong internal drive within westerners that causes them to vigorously pursue both the physical and cultural colonization of “the other”. This is not a negative or positive judgment though; it is merely intended to be understood as an objective observation.

    You were trying to imply that I was saying that whites are the only people that are greedy, however this is clearly not what I was saying. As you can see in the bolded part of the paragraph, in italics I had written the qualifier “much more so than other races”; thus this implies that other races are capable of ambition/drive/greed (whatever you want to call it), however whites just seem to have more of this quality, which is what led them to colonize the entire world. Therefore the thrust of my paragraph is significantly different than what you are making it out to be, and this is plain to see. Before you criticize what someone else has said, carefully examine what they are saying to make sure that your criticism is actually accurate.

    The major flaw of white people is their kindness toward other races. Bunch of saps is what we are and that is why we are going down the toilet.

    I disagree with this. Historically speaking, whites have been anything but kind towards other races. Unless you count invading, colonizing, exploiting, displacing, enslaving and genociding as “kindness”. Its these kind of disingenuous white nationalist quips that make you all hard to take seriously. Whats more incredulous is that you unironically believe what you are saying.

    The reason you all are going down the toilet is because the you opened up pandora’s box with colonizing the entire world, you created this monster called globalization which in turn lead to multiculturalism and mass immigration. Had the european colonizers stayed in their own countries then the east asians would still be existing in their long slumber, africans would still be eking out a relatively primitive existence, and the native americans/meso-americans would still be living as perpetually conflicting hunter gatherer tribes/agriculturalists, etc etc. It was the west that modernized and globalized the rest of the world at literal gunpoint. You wanted a global empire and you got one, so why are you complaining? This is the end result of europeans colonizing the entire globe; the west made the world a much smaller place, the west put in place the technological and institutional framework for mass immigration to happen around the world, the west has no one to blame but itself for the current state of affairs, so why are you trying to act like the victim here?

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    If modernization is a bad thing, how is it that the nonwhite races seem unable to get enough of it? Does that mean they are basically like us? Would you consider that to be evolution or going backwards?

    Africans now run their own nations and they are scrambling for all the stuff we have. While they do have the option of going back to a 100% stone age (or neolithic in some cases) way of life, every African, equatorial jungle villager and sand dweller on the planet wants the latest smart phone and all the other garbage us evil whites invented or at least made possible through our equally evil scientists. One of which you are sitting in front of and not exactly rejecting.

    By the way, do you ever hear nonwhites apologizing for their sins against other races? I am ashamed that we as a group are steeped in guilt. I'm having none of it.
    , @Pericles

    I won’t hesitate to condemn immorality or unethical actions, no matter what race or ethnic group is committing them. If the huns, turks, mongols etc really attacked european people for no reason at all

     

    Lol, "whether such reasons did indeed not exist of course still remains to be determined bzzz bzzz and furthermore bzzz"

    Muh ethics, muh morality -- always funny to hear such appeals from those quite plastic, quite flexible leftists. You seldom get to hear what those vaunted principles are though.
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  86. GammaRay says:
    @AaronB
    You raise some interesting points, but I wonder if what you call the "expansive" attitude of whites is really just seen in the physical and material realm.

    For instance, Asian civilizations were based on the idea of infinite spiritual expansion - which is basically expansion in the non-physical realm.

    But all life seems to want to expand, and its just a question if its physical or spiritual.

    So whites don't seem so much unusually expansionist as just being unique for applying this basic impulse of life to the material realm.

    On other threads I encourage whites who display an "expansionist" attitude because I think its a step in the direction of spiritual expansion - the only really bad thing is apathy, which is entropy.

    But Asian countries have shown themselves quite capable of being expansionist in the physical realm when seized by that impulse, such as Japan and today China.

    Interesting insights, they are definitely something worth thinking about more. I do agree with your thesis that whites need to adopt a more spiritual (less materialist) perspective. I think this would go a long way for helping bring the west back into harmony with the natural world as well as with their brothers and sisters from other races. Currently there is a lot of turmoil going on in this world, but this is only because with european colonialism came a great global disruption and disbalancing, frankly im not surprised that we are still feeling the reverberations centuries later. Only time will tell how things turn out

    But Asian countries have shown themselves quite capable of being expansionist in the physical realm when seized by that impulse, such as Japan and today China.

    Japan does have a track record for being the most expansionist out of all of the east asian countries; that being said, Japan’s latest imperial endeavors in the early 20th century was more so done as a reactionary policy as opposed to a genuine, internally motivated one (IE colonize others and get strong or else get colonized by the europeans yourself).

    As for china, the history of that country is very long indeed; I would say the great size of china is more due to incidental factors (warring and usurpation between regional kingdoms) as opposed to being an intentional policy of expansion (this is my impression based upon a cursory reading of chinese history, if I am incorrect about this then I welcome any corrections on the matter). Furthermore, with regards to the modern age with something like tibet, this IMO is also a form of “reactionary colonialism” as opposed to true blue, internally motivated colonialism. By that I am referring to the fact that the modern chinese government is basically forced to stabilize and colonize tibet, otherwise the USA through the CIA would destabilize tibet and use it as a launching platform against china. I strongly suspect that china would have a much more liberal and hands off policy towards tibet were it not for the USA constantly trying to create problems for china in its own backyard.

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    Excellent comment. I basically agree with everything you say here.

    I just wanted to point out that white behavior isn't a new species of behavior that's radically discontinuous with other human groups - it's the common human impulse to expand and grow mistakenly applied in a purely physical manner.

    It's a potential failing for all us humans, and we shouldn't condemn whites as whites - they are our brothers who made a wrong turn, which we are all capable of, and we should help them heal - even tho they fight us every step of the way.
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  87. Patricus says:
    @dr kill
    Agree with Linh? Easier to agree to not live in Philly. Problem solved.

    Dr Kill is right. Philly is one of America’s shit holes. My ancestors were from there and nearly all left for other parts of the US. There are plenty of great places in this country. Philly isn’t representative of the country but it is like other shit holes. Visit Baltimore for example. But why would a foreign person want to visit the dregs of the country? Switzerland and Norway probably have some sad broken down hamlets and suburbs full of drug addicts and drunks. I will pass by those places when I visit.

    Philadelphia was once America’s premier city. Maybe there will be a revival some day. A population rearrangement would be the first step.

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  88. warren says:

    “Nations that stress linguistic, cultural and/or ethnic unity will outlast those that don’t. Further, nations that shun their own heritage are as good as dead. For years, I have also stressed that the United States is ruled by a rootless, criminal cabal, and for pointing out something so obvious, I have had countless slurs hurled at me.”

    So true, if you doubt it, then ask a Byzantinum if you can find one. You would think that this would be obvious from the get go.

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  89. denk says:
    @denk

    Anglo-Saxons, however, take the prize hands down for arrogance and ego.
     
    uk minister of Offence...

    https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.06/article/5b1512c8dda4c8761d8b461f.jpg

    We believe nations should follow agreed rules, but this is being ignored by some and what this does is it undermines peace and prosperity of all nations.

    We have to make it clear that nations need to play by the rules and that there are consequences for not doing so


    cough cough.......

    Anglo-Saxons, however, take the prize hands down for arrogance and ego.

    Hillary the enforcer Clinton, speaking to full house in Oz and NZ…..

    yOU MUST STAND UP TO INSIDIOUS CHINESE INTERFERENCE.

    Nobody in the crowd had the balls to ask the enforcer,
    But talking about interference, wasnt Washington who’s responsible for toppling Gould Whitlam, Kevin Rudd in Oz and David Lange in NZ, ?’

    iN fact they paid a premium to be lectured by the proconsul on how to stand up to foreign ‘interference’.

    hehehhe

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  90. AaronB says:
    @GammaRay
    Interesting insights, they are definitely something worth thinking about more. I do agree with your thesis that whites need to adopt a more spiritual (less materialist) perspective. I think this would go a long way for helping bring the west back into harmony with the natural world as well as with their brothers and sisters from other races. Currently there is a lot of turmoil going on in this world, but this is only because with european colonialism came a great global disruption and disbalancing, frankly im not surprised that we are still feeling the reverberations centuries later. Only time will tell how things turn out

    But Asian countries have shown themselves quite capable of being expansionist in the physical realm when seized by that impulse, such as Japan and today China.
     
    Japan does have a track record for being the most expansionist out of all of the east asian countries; that being said, Japan's latest imperial endeavors in the early 20th century was more so done as a reactionary policy as opposed to a genuine, internally motivated one (IE colonize others and get strong or else get colonized by the europeans yourself).

    As for china, the history of that country is very long indeed; I would say the great size of china is more due to incidental factors (warring and usurpation between regional kingdoms) as opposed to being an intentional policy of expansion (this is my impression based upon a cursory reading of chinese history, if I am incorrect about this then I welcome any corrections on the matter). Furthermore, with regards to the modern age with something like tibet, this IMO is also a form of "reactionary colonialism" as opposed to true blue, internally motivated colonialism. By that I am referring to the fact that the modern chinese government is basically forced to stabilize and colonize tibet, otherwise the USA through the CIA would destabilize tibet and use it as a launching platform against china. I strongly suspect that china would have a much more liberal and hands off policy towards tibet were it not for the USA constantly trying to create problems for china in its own backyard.

    Excellent comment. I basically agree with everything you say here.

    I just wanted to point out that white behavior isn’t a new species of behavior that’s radically discontinuous with other human groups – it’s the common human impulse to expand and grow mistakenly applied in a purely physical manner.

    It’s a potential failing for all us humans, and we shouldn’t condemn whites as whites – they are our brothers who made a wrong turn, which we are all capable of, and we should help them heal – even tho they fight us every step of the way.

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    I just wanted to point out that white behavior isn’t a new species of behavior that’s radically discontinuous with other human groups – it’s the common human impulse to expand and grow mistakenly applied in a purely physical manner.
     
    With all due respect (and I do mean that because I think that our opinions are somewhat similar and I generally respect you as a poster), I have never made the argument that whites are unique for wanting to expand. I have only made the arguments that whites seem to have a very strong disposition for this kind of behavior compared to other races.

    It’s a potential failing for all us humans, and we shouldn’t condemn whites as whites – they are our brothers who made a wrong turn, which we are all capable of, and we should help them heal – even tho they fight us every step of the way.
     
    In a broad sense, I think that whites (or at least western europeans) seem to have a mean streak when it comes to things like colonialism. This is my observation at least. Secondly, I strongly believe that racial differences probably exist, so in this respect I am not much different than white nationalists or the alt-right. That being said, the difference between myself and them is that I apply the concept of HBD to all races evenly and impartially instead of trying to selectively use the concept of HBD to reinforce my own personal political biases.

    More importantly, I recognize that the past is the past. While this doesn't mean that the west can escape the practical consequences of its past actions, I do believe that it is important to at least try to move on from the past (granted its a very thorny and complicated topic). For that reason, I am very understanding and compassionate towards more liberal leaning whites and even towards whites that are completely indifferent; however I have very little patience or compassion for far-right leaning whites who apparently lack the ability to show any kind of compassion or understanding towards others yet demand it for themselves. Seriously, what kind of idiocy is that?
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  91. Liza says:
    @GammaRay

    You don’t seem to be losing any sleep over the depredations committed by nonwhites against European peoples. You know – Huns, Turks, Mongols taking slaves, slaughtering left and right, etc. Invading European lands just because they could. Last I looked, “greed”, which you appear to consider a purely white thing, was and is widely distributed over the earth.
     
    The difference between white nationalists and myself is that I won't hesitate to condemn immorality or unethical actions, no matter what race or ethnic group is committing them. If the huns, turks, mongols etc really attacked european people for no reason at all then yes, I would not hesitate to condemn those actions. Wrong is wrong. Its really not that hard to evenly apply morality. Non-white depredations against europeans were wrong, european colonization against literally the entire world was also wrong. Honestly assigning blame is not some zero sum game like white nationalists like to imagine it is. What white nationalists don't understand is that there are actually some people out there who are capable of impartially judging situations instead of instantly taking the side of their own race no matter what.

    Also you need to work on your reading comprehension instead of letting your emotions contort meanings out of words that aren't really there. Here is the quote you are referring to in its entirety:

    This is an interesting question and definitely worth looking into. That being said, I do not buy into the reasoning that an exploding british population is the only or even major reason behind colonization. From learning about european culture, and understanding the general weltanschauung of white people, as well as from having extensive social experience with them; it is clearly evident to me that there is a strong extraversive, expansive component that exists in the white collective consciousness which under certain circumstances strongly compels them to colonize, displace and replace much more so than other races would do so under similar circumstances. What alt-righters/WN would call “ambition” and “drive”, others might prefer to recognize it as “greed”. Regardless of the semantic trivialities; it is clear that there is a strong internal drive within westerners that causes them to vigorously pursue both the physical and cultural colonization of “the other”. This is not a negative or positive judgment though; it is merely intended to be understood as an objective observation.
     
    You were trying to imply that I was saying that whites are the only people that are greedy, however this is clearly not what I was saying. As you can see in the bolded part of the paragraph, in italics I had written the qualifier "much more so than other races"; thus this implies that other races are capable of ambition/drive/greed (whatever you want to call it), however whites just seem to have more of this quality, which is what led them to colonize the entire world. Therefore the thrust of my paragraph is significantly different than what you are making it out to be, and this is plain to see. Before you criticize what someone else has said, carefully examine what they are saying to make sure that your criticism is actually accurate.

    The major flaw of white people is their kindness toward other races. Bunch of saps is what we are and that is why we are going down the toilet.
     
    I disagree with this. Historically speaking, whites have been anything but kind towards other races. Unless you count invading, colonizing, exploiting, displacing, enslaving and genociding as "kindness". Its these kind of disingenuous white nationalist quips that make you all hard to take seriously. Whats more incredulous is that you unironically believe what you are saying.

    The reason you all are going down the toilet is because the you opened up pandora's box with colonizing the entire world, you created this monster called globalization which in turn lead to multiculturalism and mass immigration. Had the european colonizers stayed in their own countries then the east asians would still be existing in their long slumber, africans would still be eking out a relatively primitive existence, and the native americans/meso-americans would still be living as perpetually conflicting hunter gatherer tribes/agriculturalists, etc etc. It was the west that modernized and globalized the rest of the world at literal gunpoint. You wanted a global empire and you got one, so why are you complaining? This is the end result of europeans colonizing the entire globe; the west made the world a much smaller place, the west put in place the technological and institutional framework for mass immigration to happen around the world, the west has no one to blame but itself for the current state of affairs, so why are you trying to act like the victim here?

    If modernization is a bad thing, how is it that the nonwhite races seem unable to get enough of it? Does that mean they are basically like us? Would you consider that to be evolution or going backwards?

    Africans now run their own nations and they are scrambling for all the stuff we have. While they do have the option of going back to a 100% stone age (or neolithic in some cases) way of life, every African, equatorial jungle villager and sand dweller on the planet wants the latest smart phone and all the other garbage us evil whites invented or at least made possible through our equally evil scientists. One of which you are sitting in front of and not exactly rejecting.

    By the way, do you ever hear nonwhites apologizing for their sins against other races? I am ashamed that we as a group are steeped in guilt. I’m having none of it.

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    Globalization and modernization are here to stay; whether anybody likes them or not has nothing to do with the fact that globalization and modernization (especially the internet and the airplane, the two biggest enablers of globalization) threaten the cultural and racial integrity of the west, which has been my point all along. Personally I think this is poetic justice but obviously you beg to differ. Nice try at attempting to shift the goalposts with your pithy quip about non-whites and their love of modernization though ;)

    Also just FYI, nowhere did I state that modernization was a bad thing, seriously; look it up. I merely stated that the west modernized and globalized the rest of the world at literal gunpoint, which is a factual statement and has nothing to do with my own value judgment about the matter. Once again, you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that the west fucked itself. Its really that simple

    By the way, do you ever hear nonwhites apologizing for their sins against other races? I am ashamed that we as a group are steeped in guilt. I’m having none of it.
     
    Possibly. Considering that many non-whites speak in other languages and have their own virtual and real life communities, in a practical sense I would never be aware of how non-whites may feel about their past depredations towards other races and most likely neither would you. Our awareness of the world is limited to the anglosphere both in the real world and online.

    The west actually does deserve its guilt though considering that the west disrupted nearly the entire world. If the west only influenced a small region of the world then yeah white guilt would be absurd, but considering the broad scope and sheer longevity of the west's history of colonizing other people (literally centuries), I think that white guilt is an appropriate response. Don't play the victim here liza
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  92. denk says:
    @Leander Starr
    Good essay. Couldn't agree less though on some of the stuff.

    For all their arrogance East Asians still have not learned basic things. Their societies have only prospered to the degree they have aped the west. There is nothing new coming out of there. Japan has still not digested their 90's bubble nearly 30 years on. China is on a speedy vector to the same place.

    Over the last 800 years it is only the West that has been able to continually renew itself from its own internal creativity. The sense of chaos which now abounds arises from the current round of renewal. The marxist disease of the last 100 years is at last being fully and permanently rejected by the host.

    Likely this will be another Anglo Saxon century. You know, like the five preceding ones.

    Likely this will be another Anglo Saxon century. You know, like the five preceding ones.

    I can understand your enthusiasm to perpetuate this pax Brittanica/murikka franchise, its fun to be the ones dissing it out.

    As for those who have been dodging your bombs and suffering your incessant bullshits…

    This criminal, decadent and deeply-confused nation just can’t collapse soon enough.

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    Oh dear. I quite understand your frustration. So sorry
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  93. Pericles says:
    @GammaRay
    There is no universal, global brotherhood of "nationalist, right-wing, anti-SJW" values as you seem to be trying to imply. The western far-right/alt-right is entirely self-serving and their appeals to some kind of global nationalistic ideology is basically just a thin facade that they promote in order to help generate support for their own self-serving agenda. The only reason that the western far-right wants to reach out for allies right now is because they are on the ropes and in a position of weakness; if the western far-right was instead in a position of strength then they would not hesitate to put their boot on your neck. You are quite naive if you don't think otherwise.

    As an long time observer of the western far-right; its very clear that at the end of the day, it is not principles that they care about, it is only themselves. That in itself would be fine if they were upfront about it, however the problem is that they insist on being very deceptive about their true motives. As I have said in this post, and so many others; why is it that the far-right wants to postulate about "rights" and "fairness" when it comes to the preservation of the white race, but then when it comes to any other ethnic group on earth that has been negatively impacted by western colonialism the far-right just tells them to go fuck themselves? This tells you all you need to know about how the far-right really feels about its so called vaunted principles regarding racial/cultural preservation. They believe in it for themselves yes, but will be more than willing to compromise this belief when it comes to any others. You are missing the forest for the trees if you insist on adhering to notions of abstract jointly-held values at the expense of basic strategic interests; this is something I guarantee you is not lost on the western far-right.

    You also assume that SJWism is going to spread to east asia and negatively affect the culture there in the same way that it has in the west. Is this or is this not the primary motivation why you seek an alliance with the western far-right? Have I understood your motive correctly? Going on the assumption that this is actually your motive; then why haven't you taken into account the fact that culturally and genetically speaking, east asians simply think differently than whites do? There is no reason to believe that SJWism is going to run as rampantly in east asia as it has in the west. It will gain a foothold that is for sure, but it won't gain the same kind of traction that it has in the west. Ideologies cannot completely change the essential natures of people, if this was the case then the alt-right (based on racial determinism) would not exist in the first place. Anyways this is a moot point; if the west fully declines then it would be unable to export its leftist ideals anyways, so I don't see what you're mad about.

    Once again, to reiterate my original point. It is absurd for POC to assume that the western far-right in any way, shape or form represents their interests or at the very least is a neutral entity towards them. It is true that POC is a clumsy, extremely general term, but in this context it functions perfectly. The western far-right worldview is basically encapsulated as "whites vs all others"; therefore within this context, a pan non-white concept like POC is useful for working within such a stark, extremist ideological framework. What is playing out in the west right now is basically the west struggling with its own past actions; highly conscientious POC need to sit on the sidelines, shutup and let this play out on its own. There is no need to take sides here, the west made its own bed, let it sleep in it, this has nothing to do with POC.

    Lol, what a fool.

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  94. Pericles says:
    @deschutes
    Stupidest quote of the weekend, by Linh Dinh-

    " The transgender spiel is a part of the campaign against masculinity. Castration is in."

    That's right. All those transfolk just hate men, that's why they go to such pains to look like women. God, what an idiot. Dinh is right at home here at Unz.com.

    That, and 'shared bathrooms mean the death of a nation' :-D

    I can see why Dinh was booted off Counterpunch years ago :-D

    For some reason, I imagine hearing deschutes’ words in an artificially high voice.

    That’s right. All those transfolk just hate men, that’s why they go to such pains to look like women.

    Do meditate on whether you love men if your entire existence is built on trying to fool them into doing something that would disgust them if they knew better. Like kissing a tranny, for starters.

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  95. Pericles says:
    @GammaRay

    Most of us are against both ‘invite the world’ and ‘invade the world’.
     
    Im an old hand on the internet far-right/alt-right scene; what you said is generally true except with a major caveat. The alt-right is against invading the world only when it doesn't result in any net gain for the west. The alt-right doesn't actually have a principled stance against colonization/invading other countries; rather they are only against invading other countries when it inconveniences them, but when it happens to benefit them, they are fully supportive of all kinds of invasions. This is probably one of the things that disgusts me most about the alt-right is how they lack any kind of true, consistent moral foundation but like to act as if they do.

    Its not really a useful argument to ask if something is really a grassroots thing or not. You could apply that same line of reasoning to anything to the extent where it could obscure the true reality of an event. Is globalization due to the actions of a jewish ruling class? Perhaps. But many on the alt-right still blame jews in general because they understand that there is something in jewish culture that is sympathetic to the globalization project overall. The same thing applies to western colonization as well. Regardless of what the western ruling class chose to do, there was an eager, sympathetic and compliant population which enabled western colonization to happen. If the population was not enthusiastic about the colonization project then the broad and thorough scale of european colonization would have been impossible otherwise.

    The very act of colonizing and expansion is something that speaks to the very soul of western man. Most on the far-right fully agree with this sentiment btw and this is something that you see them say over and over. Simply trying to deflect all the blame on the ruling class and absolve the people actually carrying out actions is pretty disingenuous. The reality is, both the ruling class and its subjects are both equally culpable for european colonization. More importantly, I want to add that while colonialism may not have originated as a grassroots movement, it certainly had (and continues to have) grassroots support (especially among the far-right). Which is something that is equally important to consider (and equally damning as well)

    Blah, blah. You know nothing, your wall of text is useless.

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  96. Pericles says:
    @GammaRay

    You don’t seem to be losing any sleep over the depredations committed by nonwhites against European peoples. You know – Huns, Turks, Mongols taking slaves, slaughtering left and right, etc. Invading European lands just because they could. Last I looked, “greed”, which you appear to consider a purely white thing, was and is widely distributed over the earth.
     
    The difference between white nationalists and myself is that I won't hesitate to condemn immorality or unethical actions, no matter what race or ethnic group is committing them. If the huns, turks, mongols etc really attacked european people for no reason at all then yes, I would not hesitate to condemn those actions. Wrong is wrong. Its really not that hard to evenly apply morality. Non-white depredations against europeans were wrong, european colonization against literally the entire world was also wrong. Honestly assigning blame is not some zero sum game like white nationalists like to imagine it is. What white nationalists don't understand is that there are actually some people out there who are capable of impartially judging situations instead of instantly taking the side of their own race no matter what.

    Also you need to work on your reading comprehension instead of letting your emotions contort meanings out of words that aren't really there. Here is the quote you are referring to in its entirety:

    This is an interesting question and definitely worth looking into. That being said, I do not buy into the reasoning that an exploding british population is the only or even major reason behind colonization. From learning about european culture, and understanding the general weltanschauung of white people, as well as from having extensive social experience with them; it is clearly evident to me that there is a strong extraversive, expansive component that exists in the white collective consciousness which under certain circumstances strongly compels them to colonize, displace and replace much more so than other races would do so under similar circumstances. What alt-righters/WN would call “ambition” and “drive”, others might prefer to recognize it as “greed”. Regardless of the semantic trivialities; it is clear that there is a strong internal drive within westerners that causes them to vigorously pursue both the physical and cultural colonization of “the other”. This is not a negative or positive judgment though; it is merely intended to be understood as an objective observation.
     
    You were trying to imply that I was saying that whites are the only people that are greedy, however this is clearly not what I was saying. As you can see in the bolded part of the paragraph, in italics I had written the qualifier "much more so than other races"; thus this implies that other races are capable of ambition/drive/greed (whatever you want to call it), however whites just seem to have more of this quality, which is what led them to colonize the entire world. Therefore the thrust of my paragraph is significantly different than what you are making it out to be, and this is plain to see. Before you criticize what someone else has said, carefully examine what they are saying to make sure that your criticism is actually accurate.

    The major flaw of white people is their kindness toward other races. Bunch of saps is what we are and that is why we are going down the toilet.
     
    I disagree with this. Historically speaking, whites have been anything but kind towards other races. Unless you count invading, colonizing, exploiting, displacing, enslaving and genociding as "kindness". Its these kind of disingenuous white nationalist quips that make you all hard to take seriously. Whats more incredulous is that you unironically believe what you are saying.

    The reason you all are going down the toilet is because the you opened up pandora's box with colonizing the entire world, you created this monster called globalization which in turn lead to multiculturalism and mass immigration. Had the european colonizers stayed in their own countries then the east asians would still be existing in their long slumber, africans would still be eking out a relatively primitive existence, and the native americans/meso-americans would still be living as perpetually conflicting hunter gatherer tribes/agriculturalists, etc etc. It was the west that modernized and globalized the rest of the world at literal gunpoint. You wanted a global empire and you got one, so why are you complaining? This is the end result of europeans colonizing the entire globe; the west made the world a much smaller place, the west put in place the technological and institutional framework for mass immigration to happen around the world, the west has no one to blame but itself for the current state of affairs, so why are you trying to act like the victim here?

    I won’t hesitate to condemn immorality or unethical actions, no matter what race or ethnic group is committing them. If the huns, turks, mongols etc really attacked european people for no reason at all

    Lol, “whether such reasons did indeed not exist of course still remains to be determined bzzz bzzz and furthermore bzzz”

    Muh ethics, muh morality — always funny to hear such appeals from those quite plastic, quite flexible leftists. You seldom get to hear what those vaunted principles are though.

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  97. MacNucc11 says:
    @Bragadocious
    For years, I have also stressed that the United States is ruled by a rootless, criminal cabal, and for pointing out something so obvious, I have had countless slurs hurled at me

    Oh you brave, brave man. Noam Chomsky was saying the same stuff 40 years ago. But unlike Chomsky, you go for the throat of the common man, whose side you pretend to take. You're just like Michael Moore. You sit next to the proles at the local tavern, drink with them, laugh with them -- and then shiv them in the back in your next article. Maybe it didn't occur to you that they might support the troops not because they love military aggression but because one of their friends or relatives might be a veteran with a prosthetic leg or PTSD. But inhuman scum like you just spits on them as cheerleaders for the war machine.

    Pretty incoherent. So he shivs them in the back because he doesn’t want them to end up with PTSD and a prosthetic leg?

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  98. MacNucc11 says:
    @Linh Dinh
    Israel firster Bragadocious is greatly disturbed by me identifying the "rootless, criminal cabal," for he knows exactly who I'm talking about, and he shows his hand by citing the fake dissident, Noam Chomsky. Smug and pseudonymous in midtown Manhattan, he seethes at those who dare to lift the curtain to reveal his poisonous kind.

    I mean really, when has Noam Chomsky been called on the carpet? Everyone fawns over this guy like pearls of wisdom are just dropping from his mouth. Fake dissident sums it up.

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  99. MacNucc11 says:
    @Stonehands
    Perhaps, Lin, by voluntarily entering an establishment in order to alter one's consciousness- whether in Vietnam or America- you are signaling your surrender and defeat in the war on the "true nature of reality."

    The alcohol delusion amplifies greed...hatred...bondage.

    ...And is anathema to wholesome higher insights.

    Whether alcohol or heroin...these self- ingrained defilements are an obstruction to the complete repose to the human spirit.

    I am pretty sure beer is real.

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  100. MacNucc11 says:
    @JackAlbatross
    Linh's writing is always welcome and appreciated, as there is very little being written from the street point-of-view with his ability to see all the cultural nuances at play. I know well some of these regions he writes about and I'm amazed at how he nails it every time. The tension in Linh's writing--for me--resides in his open, casual approach followed by the unwanted and stinging revelation. He's like the avuncular dentist who says to the reader this won't hurt a bit then suddenly he starts drilling you without novocaine. But sometimes it's necessary to hurt.

    Keep writing, I hope to see more. And yeah, I'll be buying your book.

    He finds the big in the little. There is no little.. It is all big.

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    Come to Norf’ philly sometime and see a typical American “ hood” RAVAGED by the gateway drug alcohol.

    This afflicts the whole racial spectrum.
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  101. @denk

    Likely this will be another Anglo Saxon century. You know, like the five preceding ones.
     
    I can understand your enthusiasm to perpetuate this pax Brittanica/murikka franchise, its fun to be the ones dissing it out.

    As for those who have been dodging your bombs and suffering your incessant bullshits...

    This criminal, decadent and deeply-confused nation just can’t collapse soon enough.

    Oh dear. I quite understand your frustration. So sorry

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    Dont feel bad ...not.
    Its in the gene.
    Blame gawd if you want to or...
    'the Jews make us do all this', the anglo centuries. !

    I wont feel sorry if fukus collapse.

    it sucks that the Germans are being genocided by fukus engineered WMM,

    I pity the Swedes for getting the same treatment from fukus,
    Not all whites are born equal, Swedes are benign .
    Unlike fukus, they dont hurt nobody , they only wanna make love.

    BUt I'll celebrate the implosion of fukus, its either you or us.
    you wont stop until the whole world is under your jackboot, hence the sinophobia.
    From what I gather, Its not only the TPTB, its from the grass root , bottom up.


    If it takes white genocide to stop fukus, I say being it on !

    heheheheh
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  102. @MacNucc11
    He finds the big in the little. There is no little.. It is all big.

    Come to Norf’ philly sometime and see a typical American “ hood” RAVAGED by the gateway drug alcohol.

    This afflicts the whole racial spectrum.

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  103. GammaRay says:
    @Liza
    If modernization is a bad thing, how is it that the nonwhite races seem unable to get enough of it? Does that mean they are basically like us? Would you consider that to be evolution or going backwards?

    Africans now run their own nations and they are scrambling for all the stuff we have. While they do have the option of going back to a 100% stone age (or neolithic in some cases) way of life, every African, equatorial jungle villager and sand dweller on the planet wants the latest smart phone and all the other garbage us evil whites invented or at least made possible through our equally evil scientists. One of which you are sitting in front of and not exactly rejecting.

    By the way, do you ever hear nonwhites apologizing for their sins against other races? I am ashamed that we as a group are steeped in guilt. I'm having none of it.

    Globalization and modernization are here to stay; whether anybody likes them or not has nothing to do with the fact that globalization and modernization (especially the internet and the airplane, the two biggest enablers of globalization) threaten the cultural and racial integrity of the west, which has been my point all along. Personally I think this is poetic justice but obviously you beg to differ. Nice try at attempting to shift the goalposts with your pithy quip about non-whites and their love of modernization though ;)

    Also just FYI, nowhere did I state that modernization was a bad thing, seriously; look it up. I merely stated that the west modernized and globalized the rest of the world at literal gunpoint, which is a factual statement and has nothing to do with my own value judgment about the matter. Once again, you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that the west fucked itself. Its really that simple

    By the way, do you ever hear nonwhites apologizing for their sins against other races? I am ashamed that we as a group are steeped in guilt. I’m having none of it.

    Possibly. Considering that many non-whites speak in other languages and have their own virtual and real life communities, in a practical sense I would never be aware of how non-whites may feel about their past depredations towards other races and most likely neither would you. Our awareness of the world is limited to the anglosphere both in the real world and online.

    The west actually does deserve its guilt though considering that the west disrupted nearly the entire world. If the west only influenced a small region of the world then yeah white guilt would be absurd, but considering the broad scope and sheer longevity of the west’s history of colonizing other people (literally centuries), I think that white guilt is an appropriate response. Don’t play the victim here liza

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    LOL. Whites are a small minority in this world - less than 10%, I think. If the other 90% of the world's people were disgusted with modernity and globalization, it's high time they did something about it.

    I'm not in denial about our future. Whitey's on the way out; this is the way of the world. Everything comes to an end. Just don't ask me to celebrate it.
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  104. GammaRay says:
    @AaronB
    Excellent comment. I basically agree with everything you say here.

    I just wanted to point out that white behavior isn't a new species of behavior that's radically discontinuous with other human groups - it's the common human impulse to expand and grow mistakenly applied in a purely physical manner.

    It's a potential failing for all us humans, and we shouldn't condemn whites as whites - they are our brothers who made a wrong turn, which we are all capable of, and we should help them heal - even tho they fight us every step of the way.

    I just wanted to point out that white behavior isn’t a new species of behavior that’s radically discontinuous with other human groups – it’s the common human impulse to expand and grow mistakenly applied in a purely physical manner.

    With all due respect (and I do mean that because I think that our opinions are somewhat similar and I generally respect you as a poster), I have never made the argument that whites are unique for wanting to expand. I have only made the arguments that whites seem to have a very strong disposition for this kind of behavior compared to other races.

    It’s a potential failing for all us humans, and we shouldn’t condemn whites as whites – they are our brothers who made a wrong turn, which we are all capable of, and we should help them heal – even tho they fight us every step of the way.

    In a broad sense, I think that whites (or at least western europeans) seem to have a mean streak when it comes to things like colonialism. This is my observation at least. Secondly, I strongly believe that racial differences probably exist, so in this respect I am not much different than white nationalists or the alt-right. That being said, the difference between myself and them is that I apply the concept of HBD to all races evenly and impartially instead of trying to selectively use the concept of HBD to reinforce my own personal political biases.

    More importantly, I recognize that the past is the past. While this doesn’t mean that the west can escape the practical consequences of its past actions, I do believe that it is important to at least try to move on from the past (granted its a very thorny and complicated topic). For that reason, I am very understanding and compassionate towards more liberal leaning whites and even towards whites that are completely indifferent; however I have very little patience or compassion for far-right leaning whites who apparently lack the ability to show any kind of compassion or understanding towards others yet demand it for themselves. Seriously, what kind of idiocy is that?

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  105. Liza says:
    @GammaRay
    Globalization and modernization are here to stay; whether anybody likes them or not has nothing to do with the fact that globalization and modernization (especially the internet and the airplane, the two biggest enablers of globalization) threaten the cultural and racial integrity of the west, which has been my point all along. Personally I think this is poetic justice but obviously you beg to differ. Nice try at attempting to shift the goalposts with your pithy quip about non-whites and their love of modernization though ;)

    Also just FYI, nowhere did I state that modernization was a bad thing, seriously; look it up. I merely stated that the west modernized and globalized the rest of the world at literal gunpoint, which is a factual statement and has nothing to do with my own value judgment about the matter. Once again, you are going to have to come to grips with the fact that the west fucked itself. Its really that simple

    By the way, do you ever hear nonwhites apologizing for their sins against other races? I am ashamed that we as a group are steeped in guilt. I’m having none of it.
     
    Possibly. Considering that many non-whites speak in other languages and have their own virtual and real life communities, in a practical sense I would never be aware of how non-whites may feel about their past depredations towards other races and most likely neither would you. Our awareness of the world is limited to the anglosphere both in the real world and online.

    The west actually does deserve its guilt though considering that the west disrupted nearly the entire world. If the west only influenced a small region of the world then yeah white guilt would be absurd, but considering the broad scope and sheer longevity of the west's history of colonizing other people (literally centuries), I think that white guilt is an appropriate response. Don't play the victim here liza

    LOL. Whites are a small minority in this world – less than 10%, I think. If the other 90% of the world’s people were disgusted with modernity and globalization, it’s high time they did something about it.

    I’m not in denial about our future. Whitey’s on the way out; this is the way of the world. Everything comes to an end. Just don’t ask me to celebrate it.

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  106. denk says:
    @Leander Starr
    Oh dear. I quite understand your frustration. So sorry

    Dont feel bad …not.
    Its in the gene.
    Blame gawd if you want to or…
    ‘the Jews make us do all this’, the anglo centuries. !

    I wont feel sorry if fukus collapse.

    it sucks that the Germans are being genocided by fukus engineered WMM,

    I pity the Swedes for getting the same treatment from fukus,
    Not all whites are born equal, Swedes are benign .
    Unlike fukus, they dont hurt nobody , they only wanna make love.

    BUt I’ll celebrate the implosion of fukus, its either you or us.
    you wont stop until the whole world is under your jackboot, hence the sinophobia.
    From what I gather, Its not only the TPTB, its from the grass root , bottom up.

    If it takes white genocide to stop fukus, I say being it on !

    heheheheh

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  107. No amount of raging on your part will change anything.

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    ---George H.W. Bush's

    If the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts."
     
    Dont you worry ,
    The murkkans cant have enough of the
    pax murikkan project.
    hehehhe
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  108. denk says:
    @Leander Starr
    No amount of raging on your part will change anything.

    —George H.W. Bush’s

    If the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts.”

    Dont you worry ,
    The murkkans cant have enough of the
    pax murikkan project.
    hehehhe

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  109. @Mike
    TG just a reality check.
    This nation was never intended to have elites. That is the reason for a federalist republic.
    No professional politicians, no state run schools and no illiterate voters.
    The downward spiral.
    ignorance of history and moral principals
    ignorance of the constitution
    Universal suffrage
    17th amendment direct voting for senators
    16 amendment direct taxation.
    Central bank with fractional reserve.
    and there with a dash of hubris you have the almighty US FEDGOV

    This nation was never intended to have elites</blockquote

    This nation was never intended to be a nation. The Founders intended it to be a confederation of independent sovereign states. Which it was until the current rootless, criminal cabal took over in 1865.

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  110. alan2102 says:
    @GammaRay

    Most of us are against both ‘invite the world’ and ‘invade the world’.
     
    Im an old hand on the internet far-right/alt-right scene; what you said is generally true except with a major caveat. The alt-right is against invading the world only when it doesn't result in any net gain for the west. The alt-right doesn't actually have a principled stance against colonization/invading other countries; rather they are only against invading other countries when it inconveniences them, but when it happens to benefit them, they are fully supportive of all kinds of invasions. This is probably one of the things that disgusts me most about the alt-right is how they lack any kind of true, consistent moral foundation but like to act as if they do.

    Its not really a useful argument to ask if something is really a grassroots thing or not. You could apply that same line of reasoning to anything to the extent where it could obscure the true reality of an event. Is globalization due to the actions of a jewish ruling class? Perhaps. But many on the alt-right still blame jews in general because they understand that there is something in jewish culture that is sympathetic to the globalization project overall. The same thing applies to western colonization as well. Regardless of what the western ruling class chose to do, there was an eager, sympathetic and compliant population which enabled western colonization to happen. If the population was not enthusiastic about the colonization project then the broad and thorough scale of european colonization would have been impossible otherwise.

    The very act of colonizing and expansion is something that speaks to the very soul of western man. Most on the far-right fully agree with this sentiment btw and this is something that you see them say over and over. Simply trying to deflect all the blame on the ruling class and absolve the people actually carrying out actions is pretty disingenuous. The reality is, both the ruling class and its subjects are both equally culpable for european colonization. More importantly, I want to add that while colonialism may not have originated as a grassroots movement, it certainly had (and continues to have) grassroots support (especially among the far-right). Which is something that is equally important to consider (and equally damning as well)

    Gamma wrote: “The alt-right is against invading the world only when it doesn’t result in any net gain for the west. The alt-right doesn’t actually have a principled stance against colonization/invading other countries; rather they are only against invading other countries when it inconveniences them,”

    Very good point. And it is the same with the paleocon antiwar types. They don’t actually have a principled stand against war and imperialism; they oppose them because the are too costly FOR US, or too ruinous FOR US, rather than being obviously and simply morally WRONG (regardless of the relatively trivial matter of material advantageousness). The right has always lacked fundamental moral consciousness.

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    I couldnt agree more. My problem with the alt-right types is simply their disingenuousness and willful lack of self-awareness. Personally I think that imperialism/colonialism is morally wrong, but I would be willing to accept the alt-right's endorsement of this concept if they were able to be upfront about their pragmatic and self-serving motives regarding it instead of always trying to act as if colonialism/imperialism is a moral imperative or some other equally implausible and ridiculous justification. Why does the alt-right even bother making any pretensions to some universal form of morality? I suspect they realize that the extreme degree of their own self-serving ideology would be unpalatable to most (and bad optics as well), and that is why they try to drag out half-assed moral arguments to try to prop up their hypocritical, hateful and intellectually lazy ideology. Fortunately most people see through it though.

    I can accept a criminal if he himself can call himself a criminal, but I cannot accept a criminal trying to masquerade as a righteous person.
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  111. alan2102 says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    As I've said before, I give as much effort to a reply as I think a person deserves. Obviously you're not one of them, in no small part because of your insane fetish with "colonialism" - which I barely could care for.

    Indeed, colonialism can be plenty helpful for improving the condition of a population objectively, which is surprising given that its goal is traditionally extractive but when the native elite is so incompetent or even more extractive of their population, then it is a net benefit to the population.

    Not that I really care; I don't see anything fundamentally wrong with conquest. At the end of the day, competition is the means to determine which values and memes of humanity survive and by removing violence completely as a method, it leads to warping of the population.

    I'm descended from mandarins; I have a pretty clear line of family history as far back as the Yuan. We've done beautiful things - marvelous terraced farms, canals that remain to this day, and a slew of impressive artwork. We've done terrible things - kept generations of illiterate serfs and bondsmen. "European colonialism" may hurt us, but the Cultural Revolution did a lot more damage and almost wiped us out. And we've invaded Vietnam, and I don't regret it: Annam, the peaceful south. Had the Ming held it, had it remained Chinese, its hard to argue that it would not be wealthier and more beautiful than it is now.

    So no, I don't feel anything in common with your so-called POC. And your rants about colonialism only irritate me further. There are many terrible things in life and the world. And often, they are also beautiful and glorious things.

    Daniel Chieh wrote: “I don’t see anything fundamentally wrong with conquest. At the end of the day, competition is the means to determine which values and memes of humanity survive and by removing violence completely as a method, it leads to warping of the population.”

    There it is. The ugly, evil, amoral core of right-wingery.

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  112. GammaRay says:
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    Gamma wrote: "The alt-right is against invading the world only when it doesn’t result in any net gain for the west. The alt-right doesn’t actually have a principled stance against colonization/invading other countries; rather they are only against invading other countries when it inconveniences them,"

    Very good point. And it is the same with the paleocon antiwar types. They don't actually have a principled stand against war and imperialism; they oppose them because the are too costly FOR US, or too ruinous FOR US, rather than being obviously and simply morally WRONG (regardless of the relatively trivial matter of material advantageousness). The right has always lacked fundamental moral consciousness.

    I couldnt agree more. My problem with the alt-right types is simply their disingenuousness and willful lack of self-awareness. Personally I think that imperialism/colonialism is morally wrong, but I would be willing to accept the alt-right’s endorsement of this concept if they were able to be upfront about their pragmatic and self-serving motives regarding it instead of always trying to act as if colonialism/imperialism is a moral imperative or some other equally implausible and ridiculous justification. Why does the alt-right even bother making any pretensions to some universal form of morality? I suspect they realize that the extreme degree of their own self-serving ideology would be unpalatable to most (and bad optics as well), and that is why they try to drag out half-assed moral arguments to try to prop up their hypocritical, hateful and intellectually lazy ideology. Fortunately most people see through it though.

    I can accept a criminal if he himself can call himself a criminal, but I cannot accept a criminal trying to masquerade as a righteous person.

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