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Trinh Cong Son, the great song writer, poet and soul of Saigon, said that he got his heart and mind revving each morning by watching frantic life unfurling all around him, while sitting in a sidewalk cafe. Lesser Vietnamese do exactly the same, however, for to be among one’s own kind is practically an hourly necessity here. The second they’re free to do so, most head straight for the nearest café, eatery or beer joint, which is, still, most likely on the sidewalk, or open to it.

At the next table, there is a man, woman and a baby girl, nursing from a bottle. Sunlight floods in, ceiling fans barely cool, while just outside, motorcycles swarm past, beeping too often. Up and down the street are scores of similar joints, with most specializing in just one or two noodle or rice dishes.

There is also a McDonald’s, overpriced by local standards, yet still filled, for it’s a destination for the nouveau riche, and for regular people to sometimes treat their kids, to expose them to how white people eat. Just out of sight is a billboard showing Denzel Washington, looking super cool with some sort of mean-assed rifle.

A dark, wiry dude rides by on a bicycle, with a speaker that repeats, “I buy air conditioners, refrigerators and sewing machines.” Now and then, a lottery ticket seller strays in, but none are children, as in the 90’s, and there are almost no beggars left, and gone, absolutely, is the appalling spectacle of kids in rags, waiting for a diner to finish his meal, so that they can eat whatever’s leftover, even if it’s just a bit of broth.

This eatery is known for its braised pork offal, served with French bread, and for its cubed beef, presented on a cow-shaped skillet. I like to write here because it’s free from distracting music, and because a can of Tiger beer is a reasonable 73 cents. Seeing me typing, the owner asks, “Do you need me to turn on the light, brother?”

“No, I’m fine, sister. Thank you!”

It’s this comfort with being on top of each other, all the time, that has helped the Vietnamese to survive, I think, for their togetherness is constant and literal. To the Vietnamese, the masses are not an abstraction, but a relentless experience they actually enjoy. By contrast, most Americans would not put up with this nonstop proximity of other bodies. Americans only get a chance to belong to a crowd at a rare football game, NASCAR rally, Insane Clown Posse concert, Burning Man or George Soros-sponsored protest, etc.

The Vietnamese’ eagerness to always merge doesn’t make them natural Communists, however, for outside of any collective crisis, they’re individualistic enough, as evidenced by the maddening proliferation of small businesses everywhere, from pushcarts to neighborhood factories. To be his own boss, a Vietnamese would sell ten old pairs of shoes and assorted junk, displayed on a tarp, as he sits in the sun on the sidewalk.

In the Christian West, the first person was one lonely man, Adam, while in the Vietnamese creation myth, a woman gave birth to a hundred eggs, which hatched into the very first mob of Vietnamese.

Noticing the Vietnamese’ compulsion to cluster, foreigners have repeatedly compared them to ants or other insects. “The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer,” goes the biblical proverb, but it’s always summer here, so the Vietnamese are prepared year-round, year in and year out, for whatever calamities await them. Stoic and always stocked up on the basics, they are perennial preppers.

Many Vietnamese towns have “an,” “yên” or “bình” in their name, with each meaning “peaceful,” but all these Peacevilles have been sacked, looted, burnt or bombed through the centuries, as is typical of all settlements worldwide, except, of course, for those in the USA.

My two years in Certaldo, Italy, I lived a block away from the rebuilt house of Boccaccio, destroyed by American bombs. The town itself had been erected on a hill, with a defensive wall, for war was always nearby, and not something overseas or on television.

The most typical Vietnamese male name is Hùng, meaning heroic, for it’s not just a masculine ideal, but a societal necessity. Without enough heroic men, your nation will be snuffed out, as countless have been. Wherever you are, you’re living on a graveyard of obliterated societies.

This week came news that Nguyễn Văn Thương, a Vietcong spy during the Vietnam War, had died at age 80. In 1969, Thương was trying to smuggle documents from Saigon when he was spotted by American helicopters. With his AK-47, Thương shot one down, killing three Americans, but finally he was captured by a swarming posse of 72 helicopters, an ARVN division and a US Army regiment, it is said.

Trying to win over this invaluable intelligence asset, the Americans offered Thương $100,000, a car, a villa and the rank of an ARVN colonel, but he would not switch sides, so they locked him up for four years while subjecting him to all sorts of torture, including, get this, the sawing off of his legs six times, one chunk at a time, until all Thương had left were two pitiful stumps.

I’m not going to conjecture how embellished all this is, but it can’t be more preposterous than any Rambo movie. The key takeaway is that both characters are meant to inspire, but there is a key difference between them. Whereas Rambo’s role is to reassure Americans they are still invincible, that they’ll always kick ass if not for a backstabbing bureaucracy, Thương reminds Vietnamese that an individual or nation may have to endure unspeakable pain and sacrifice to possibly survive another day.

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It’s more than curious that many Americans are still willing to be sent anywhere to fight anybody, for any reason, no matter how bogus, but this can be partially explained by the myth of American invincibility. Young American males will sign up tomorrow to be dispatched to Timbuktu, North or South Korea, Saskatchewan, Mars, Atlantis, wherever, because they’ve been brainwashed into thinking they will quickly kick ass then go home, to a hero’s welcome. Bring it on!

A concomitant factor is sadism. Conditioned from infancy to enjoy seeing bodies maimed in every which way imaginable, many Americans welcome the chance to blow up, shred or chop up a few, and though this mindset is certainly pathological, it’s a prerequisite of any empire.

Everybody else on earth will only fight to defend their nation, however, but this is exactly what gung-ho Americans have failed to do, paradoxically, for as they bomb away everywhere, their homeland is raped and disfigured beyond recognition, but I’m no longer appalled by this. A population so meekly clueless deserves its doom.

Linh Dinh’s latest books are Postcards from the End of America (non-fiction) and A Mere Rica (poetry). He maintains a regularly updated photo blog.

 
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  1. Biff says:

    a can of Tiger beer is a reasonable 73 cents.

    Jealous

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  2. Everybody else on earth will only fight to defend their nation, however, but this is exactly what gung-ho Americans have failed to do, paradoxically, for as they bomb away everywhere, their homeland is raped and disfigured beyond recognition, but I’m no longer appalled by this. A population so meekly clueless deserves its doom.

    ROFL. Welcome home, commie. Ain’t it a relief to finally feel like you’re free to say America, and Americans, suck?

    Live it, brother. Breathe it. You’re finally safe in the bosom. Find yourself a juicy tit, and suck.

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    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    The fact that Philly is more a Third World country than Vietnam says something about the direction that the US and the rust belt are headed.

    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.

    Of course the "townies" and "Gen Y 30 year old adolescence" and "bumpkins" and "hicks" and "rubes" have never been anywhere. So they have no basis of comparison. They are told other countries are "shitholes" and they believe it because they have never left the country.

    In point of fact Vietnam looks newer and more modern than 90% of the towns and cities in the hinterlands between, say, Chicago and Las Vegas. It is the cities like Philly in post-decline that look like "dirt world countries".
    , @jacques sheete

    ROFL. Welcome home, commie. Ain’t it a relief to finally feel like you’re free to say America, and Americans, suck?
     
    Keep laughing, sucker!

    Your lovely USA was subverted by Commies decades ago (think FDR) and you still remain ignorant of it, but at least you have company; probably 98% of today's (and yesterday's) 'Merkins are obviously as smug and clueless as your comment reveals you to be.
    , @jacques sheete

    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.

     

    Trying?

    Ask Jesse Ventura, Fred Reed and many many others.
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  3. anonymous[142] • Disclaimer says:

    Conditioned from infancy to enjoy seeing bodies maimed, true, as their own infant bodies are maimed. Circumcision rates over the last decade reached 91 percent in white men.

    “For it is we who are the Circumcision.” Philippians 3:3

    Circumcision Permanently Alters the Brain http://circumcision.org/circumcision-permanently-alters-the-brain/

    “Blessed are the meek.”

    A population so meekly clueless deserves its doom, indeed.

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  4. gladimold says:

    Somehow I think that last paragraph is not going to go down that well.

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    • Replies: @t-gordon
    Yep, the last three paragraphs left me chuckling. I'm a flyover rube Hoosier who served in Afghanistan. I joined the Army in 2008 because I was bored and needed a change. I've encountered far more sadism in the words of online journalists than I did in the military. Still, Linh Dinh is one of my favorite Unz writers. Despite what I interpret as occasional misplaced vitriol, I truly get a kick out of his perspective. Often enough, his observations are spot on in my opinion.
    , @Andre Citroen
    The last paragraph sums it up completely; a perfect summation.
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  5. Now and then, a lottery ticket seller strays in, but none are children, as in the 90’s, and there are almost no beggars left, and gone, absolutely, is the appalling spectacle of kids in rags, waiting for a diner to finish his meal, so that they can eat whatever’s leftover, even if it’s just a bit of broth.

    Still the case in Cambodia.

    Cambodian street kid speaks English.

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    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    Cambodia is still a shit hole. Possibly the only one left in Indochina.
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  6. Young American males will sign up tomorrow to be dispatched to Timbuktu, North or South Korea, Saskatchewan, Mars, Atlantis, wherever, because

    they want to belong to a crew, a team, join the long gray line, tame million-dollar machines, make the grade with Army Airborne, Infantry…

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    • Replies: @Jim Christian

    they want to belong to a crew, a team, join the long gray line, tame million-dollar machines, make the grade with Army Airborne, Infantry…
     
    That's the boilerplate. They'd have been content with a factory job, a wife and kids. Oh wait, no factories, the women are too fat to marry, the schools too stupid to educate children.

    Where do I sign?
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  7. Divergent says:

    It was an interesting read until the last few paragraphs…

    Yes there is a subset of the American population, and of the military, who believe what they’re told by media and government — which, whether true or false, is almost always framed such that our troops are being sent overseas to do good, for humanitarian reasons, to help people, and save them from the bad guys.

    Yes, as in every military, there are young men who join because they want to kick ass — but I think the percentage who are pychopathic sadists is far lower than our author seems to believe, and probably no higher than what would find in any east Asian country’s general population (much less the military). After all, genomic studies have shown the relative dearth among ‘mongoloids’ of the alleles which code for oxytocin (empathy, love).

    Indeed, doom is probably coming for us. Some Americans will deserve it. Many will not.

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    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    It is doubtful that any Jew-who supposedly masterminds these invasions, though I am dubious-believes that Iranians will leap off Dhows like Sinbad swinging scimitars on the shores of New York City if a shit ton more money and young lives are pissed away in a Middle Eastern toilet bowl.

    Only hicks from the sticks can be made to believe that Arabs will parachute into the hinterlands like Red Dawn.

    It is, after all the GOP that implements these invasions. Probably because only people from Podunk towns can be bamboozled into believing such things.

    , @Jeff Stryker
    Anybody who believes that Iranians will parachute into Ohio or Florida is gullible indeed.

    Also, Europe would face such an influx of potential refugees as a result of such a war that they would apply tremendous pressure to avoid it.
    , @Jeff Stryker
    "Its curious Americans want to be sent anywhere"

    Most of them are in dire need of an economic opportunity.

    Even the menial jobs are now disappearing to Mexicans.
    , @Hamlet's Ghost
    Deserve's got nuthin' to do with it!
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  8. My two years in Certaldo, Italy, I lived a block away from the rebuilt house of Boccaccio, destroyed by American bombs.

    Linh, do you speak any other language besides Vietnamese and English?

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    Hi Triumph104,

    My two years in Italy, I got by with a very crude Italian. Sorting through my papers recently, however, I discovered that one of my most extensive correspondences through the years was with my Italian friend, Cristiana Borghini, and I wrote to her exclusively in Italian.

    As a child, I studied French for years, but could never speak it. When in France, though, I can decipher many of the signs, and sort of understand most newspaper articles, and I can somewhat read Spanish.

    Preparing to spend five months in Leipzig, I tried to teach myself German, but never managed to do more than deciphering menus.


    Linh
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  9. jim jones says:

    Asians have no sense of personal space, when I worked in China the constant pushing and shoving of the crowds was extremely unpleasant.

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    Many are the same in Vancouver BC, and to a lesser extent in LA area. Obnoxious.
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  10. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Triumph104

    My two years in Certaldo, Italy, I lived a block away from the rebuilt house of Boccaccio, destroyed by American bombs.
     
    Linh, do you speak any other language besides Vietnamese and English?

    Hi Triumph104,

    My two years in Italy, I got by with a very crude Italian. Sorting through my papers recently, however, I discovered that one of my most extensive correspondences through the years was with my Italian friend, Cristiana Borghini, and I wrote to her exclusively in Italian.

    As a child, I studied French for years, but could never speak it. When in France, though, I can decipher many of the signs, and sort of understand most newspaper articles, and I can somewhat read Spanish.

    Preparing to spend five months in Leipzig, I tried to teach myself German, but never managed to do more than deciphering menus.

    Linh

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    That's odd, French are to Vietnam what Spanish were to Philippines.

    France built your country and even had their own Vietnam war prior to the US War in Vietnam.

    You even have a small, but influential, Eurasian population.
    , @Triumph104
    Thanks for the reply. My experience with Spanish is about the same as yours with French.

    A population so meekly clueless deserves its doom.
     
    The responses so far are certainly backing up this statement. I'm sure they are irked at having an Asian criticize the US, but when a white man says, "Make America great again.", that is perfectly ok. Nearly every column on the Unz Review is in some fashion criticizing the US or individual Americans, but those columnists are white so that is ok.
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  11. @Triumph104

    Now and then, a lottery ticket seller strays in, but none are children, as in the 90’s, and there are almost no beggars left, and gone, absolutely, is the appalling spectacle of kids in rags, waiting for a diner to finish his meal, so that they can eat whatever’s leftover, even if it’s just a bit of broth.
     
    Still the case in Cambodia.

    https://youtu.be/fOhW0MsOlUs?t=612


    Cambodian street kid speaks English.

    https://youtu.be/GFclOmCZa1o

    Cambodia is still a shit hole. Possibly the only one left in Indochina.

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  12. @Divergent
    It was an interesting read until the last few paragraphs...

    Yes there is a subset of the American population, and of the military, who believe what they're told by media and government -- which, whether true or false, is almost always framed such that our troops are being sent overseas to do good, for humanitarian reasons, to help people, and save them from the bad guys.

    Yes, as in every military, there are young men who join because they want to kick ass -- but I think the percentage who are pychopathic sadists is far lower than our author seems to believe, and probably no higher than what would find in any east Asian country's general population (much less the military). After all, genomic studies have shown the relative dearth among 'mongoloids' of the alleles which code for oxytocin (empathy, love).

    Indeed, doom is probably coming for us. Some Americans will deserve it. Many will not.

    It is doubtful that any Jew-who supposedly masterminds these invasions, though I am dubious-believes that Iranians will leap off Dhows like Sinbad swinging scimitars on the shores of New York City if a shit ton more money and young lives are pissed away in a Middle Eastern toilet bowl.

    Only hicks from the sticks can be made to believe that Arabs will parachute into the hinterlands like Red Dawn.

    It is, after all the GOP that implements these invasions. Probably because only people from Podunk towns can be bamboozled into believing such things.

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    The supposedly more sophisticated people in the big cities of the USA seem to be herded along towards blind ignorant hatred of Russia quite easily.

    Many of them are sanguine about an unnecessary nondefensive war against Russia. We live among these sick brainwashed fools, and they’re no better in this regard than those rural white kids you like to mock.
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  13. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Everybody else on earth will only fight to defend their nation, however, but this is exactly what gung-ho Americans have failed to do, paradoxically, for as they bomb away everywhere, their homeland is raped and disfigured beyond recognition, but I’m no longer appalled by this. A population so meekly clueless deserves its doom.
     
    ROFL. Welcome home, commie. Ain't it a relief to finally feel like you're free to say America, and Americans, suck?

    Live it, brother. Breathe it. You're finally safe in the bosom. Find yourself a juicy tit, and suck.

    The fact that Philly is more a Third World country than Vietnam says something about the direction that the US and the rust belt are headed.

    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.

    Of course the “townies” and “Gen Y 30 year old adolescence” and “bumpkins” and “hicks” and “rubes” have never been anywhere. So they have no basis of comparison. They are told other countries are “shitholes” and they believe it because they have never left the country.

    In point of fact Vietnam looks newer and more modern than 90% of the towns and cities in the hinterlands between, say, Chicago and Las Vegas. It is the cities like Philly in post-decline that look like “dirt world countries”.

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    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.
     
    From your lips to God's ears, foreign devil.

    In point of fact Vietnam looks newer and more modern than 90% of the towns and cities in the hinterlands between, say, Chicago and Las Vegas. It is the cities like Philly in post-decline that look like “dirt world countries”.
     
    Noted, but not my point. Now that LinDin is back in the bosom, he's feeling his anti-American oats. Oh, if only the messicans and the aferkans and the mooselimbs would feel that call, that deep and yearning call, to go TF home and stay there. 'Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished.

    For a working, white American to no longer have to supplement the incomes of the rich by providing bazillions of POS illegal foreigners with welfare, medical, and penny-candy money -- oh, for the love of God, how wonderful that would be. Almost tears me up.
    , @Per/Norway
    you are right.
    you are also going to trigger a whole bunch of the government/army worshiping "patriots"
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  14. @Divergent
    It was an interesting read until the last few paragraphs...

    Yes there is a subset of the American population, and of the military, who believe what they're told by media and government -- which, whether true or false, is almost always framed such that our troops are being sent overseas to do good, for humanitarian reasons, to help people, and save them from the bad guys.

    Yes, as in every military, there are young men who join because they want to kick ass -- but I think the percentage who are pychopathic sadists is far lower than our author seems to believe, and probably no higher than what would find in any east Asian country's general population (much less the military). After all, genomic studies have shown the relative dearth among 'mongoloids' of the alleles which code for oxytocin (empathy, love).

    Indeed, doom is probably coming for us. Some Americans will deserve it. Many will not.

    Anybody who believes that Iranians will parachute into Ohio or Florida is gullible indeed.

    Also, Europe would face such an influx of potential refugees as a result of such a war that they would apply tremendous pressure to avoid it.

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    Anybody who believes that Iranians will parachute into Ohio or Florida is gullible indeed.
     
    Iranians? Hell, anyone with any kind of good sense stays out of Florida. Florida has more snakes that it has bugs. Not me, bruvva.
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  15. @Divergent
    It was an interesting read until the last few paragraphs...

    Yes there is a subset of the American population, and of the military, who believe what they're told by media and government -- which, whether true or false, is almost always framed such that our troops are being sent overseas to do good, for humanitarian reasons, to help people, and save them from the bad guys.

    Yes, as in every military, there are young men who join because they want to kick ass -- but I think the percentage who are pychopathic sadists is far lower than our author seems to believe, and probably no higher than what would find in any east Asian country's general population (much less the military). After all, genomic studies have shown the relative dearth among 'mongoloids' of the alleles which code for oxytocin (empathy, love).

    Indeed, doom is probably coming for us. Some Americans will deserve it. Many will not.

    “Its curious Americans want to be sent anywhere”

    Most of them are in dire need of an economic opportunity.

    Even the menial jobs are now disappearing to Mexicans.

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    why do you think so many enlist to kill the "untermensches" in far away countries where the nature resources are plenty?
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  16. @Linh Dinh
    Hi Triumph104,

    My two years in Italy, I got by with a very crude Italian. Sorting through my papers recently, however, I discovered that one of my most extensive correspondences through the years was with my Italian friend, Cristiana Borghini, and I wrote to her exclusively in Italian.

    As a child, I studied French for years, but could never speak it. When in France, though, I can decipher many of the signs, and sort of understand most newspaper articles, and I can somewhat read Spanish.

    Preparing to spend five months in Leipzig, I tried to teach myself German, but never managed to do more than deciphering menus.


    Linh

    That’s odd, French are to Vietnam what Spanish were to Philippines.

    France built your country and even had their own Vietnam war prior to the US War in Vietnam.

    You even have a small, but influential, Eurasian population.

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  17. JosephB says:

    You might want to actually watch the first Rambo movie. It’s actually quite good, and focuses on the difficulties of a soldier readjusting to life the US after serving in combat.

    The comments on the US military were also a bit off base. The 20th century was rife with examples of countries using the military to annex territory. That there has been a sharp decrease since the end of the cold war can either be credited to newly emergent feelings of peace and love and global brotherhood, or from Pax Americana enforced by the US military.

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    FIRST BLOOD

    In 1981 it was still the 70's and in those days the Right vs Left conflict was still around. Rambo represents the worst kind of hippy to Sheriff Teasle-a pissed off veteran, long hair, bad attitude. Teasle is the sort of smug jackass with a badge that the Left disliked.

    NB Rambo would have been much better off to live what looked to be a shitty town and say "thank you for the ride officer". He could have made it to the next diner by dinner and skipped the prison sentence.

    There was also the rural-urban divide. Rambo was a veteran (Probably originally middle-class) from Seattle and was only in the rural town to visit a fellow soldier. His appearance (Italian, scruffy, metro) did not endear him to the local cops (Who seem to be running the city like a fiefdom) who go after him talking about deer-hunting season.

    You have to remember that Vietnam and the 60's traumatized the US for 20 years from 1963 until 1983 when Reagan really started to come into his own and the decade of Yuppies and Nationalism began. The seventies was a very downbeat period.

    This is RAMBO II is SO DIFFERENT from the first film. The second is very right-wing and jingoistic. The first is very 70's and downbeat (It was published in 1972).
    , @nsa
    Your reality is a Rambo Joovie?
    , @anarchyst
    I beg to differ.
    The "Rambo" movies reinforced the erroneous stereotype of the Vietnam veteran being a "loose cannon" ready to explode at the slightest provocation" and not to be trusted, or even recognized for the sacrifices that most were forced to make. (the draft)
    Us Vietnam veterans came home to an indifferent, ungrateful country, where military service was looked upon as a further impediment to employment opportunities (that were enshrined in American law, and were supposed to provide federal job opportunities earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans. These opportunities never materialized, as most federal government hiring managers were civilians with no military experience, and as such, shut out returning Vietnam veterans.
    The perception that us Vietnam veterans were mentally defective turned off many civilian employment opportunities, as well.
    Despite these erroneous impediments, 99% of returning Vietnam veterans quietly resumed and got on with their lives successfully.
    The so-called "Vietnam war protesters" (erroneously) felt that they held the "moral high ground" showing (fake) concern for the plight of the Vietnamese. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, the only thing these "anti-war protesters" were concerned with was "saving their own skins from the military draft"--nothing more.
    It is interesting to note that, even today, many of these (former) "anti-war protesters" are either claiming to be Vietnam veterans, or expressing (fake) remorse over not responding when called by their government for duty. Some do express a certain amount of guilt (rightly so).
    These so-called "anti-war protesters" were totally silent when word of the "boat people", risking life and limb to escape that "communist paradise" got out. Their guilt may have finally got to them.
    The Vietnam war WAS an invasion by the North Vietnamese, who wanted to exercise control over the (more developed) South. There was no altruism--it was NOT a "civil war". It was all about control.
    Wen the North finally seized control, they came to the conclusion that they could not exercise the same amount of communist control that they exerted in the North.
    For different and varied opinions and experiences on the Vietnam war, please obtain and read "Our War Was Different" by author Al Hemingway.
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  18. Vietnam will likely be a developed country by the mid-2030s but it has already made enormous strides. I sometimes amuse myself by looking at Dollar Street, which is dedicated to photographing people all over the world, sorted by income class and then putting those photos out in the public domain.

    You realise quite quickly that you don’t need a huge income to get the basics and even many everyday luxuries covered. I wouldn’t be surprised if the average Vietnamese was happier than the average American, to the extent American can even be called a country anymore.

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    Happy American in Asia

    1) Its actually more dangerous in the average American city than Asia. If you're lost in a US city and the sun goes down, you can find yourself in serious trouble than getting lost in most Asian cities. So long as you mind your manners in Asia, you'll probably be alright.

    2) I've not encountered on "chimpout" over nothing in Asia. I've never seen a Cholo overseas. You'll meet A FEW black Americans and I have witnessed a public freakout at a girly bar by a seemingly well-dressed and average-looking black American in the Philippines.

    3) There are no whiggers, most of whom are a Gen Y phenomenon anyhow.

    4) White women are few and far between in Asia. For all their talk of patriarchy they are loathe to live abroad, though rape is rare in Asia of white women.

    5) You do not meet hicks in general. Most of those folks holiday on the redneck riviera or Florida. They are not inclined to travel overseas. For one thing, they have kids young. For another, they have jobs linked to the community/taxpayer.

    6) About your own country and its populace, you can say what you want. US military personnel are restricted to a base perimeter.

    7) You don't pay taxes under $80,000 a year.

    8) Nobody can find you.

    9) You do not have to give a shit about SJW.

    10) You can get hookers, be a PUA, whatever your pleasure.
    , @republic
    Perhaps Vietnam will become a developed country by 2030. South Korea and Taiwan were poor
    40 years ago, with authoritarian governments, but made the remarkable transition to very open democratic societies. Will Vietnam be the same? Current HDI (human development index) in Vietnam is about the same level as Egypt or Moldova. It will take more than 12 years in Vietnam to reach the same rank as SK or Taiwan.

    The author of this article is a profession blogger. In recent years many bloggers in his country have been arrested and some actually disappeared.
    I would like to have the opinion of LD regarding this subject.
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  19. “… have been sacked, looted, burnt or bombed through the centuries, as is typical of all settlements worldwide, except, of course, for those in the USA.”

    Ignoring, of course, most of the cities and villages of the former CSA and a couple of those of the Union.

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    Ignoring, of course, most of the cities and villages of the former CSA and a couple of those of the Union.
     
    True dat.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Have the African-“Americans” not sacked our cities? Not much of an exaggeration for Detroit, Camden and Trenton NJ, Baltimore, Gary IN, and many more.
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  20. “. In 1969, Thương was trying to smuggle documents from Saigon when he was spotted by American helicopters. With his AK-47, Thương shot one down, killing three Americans, but finally he was captured by a swarming posse of 72 helicopters, an ARVN division and a US Army regiment, it is said.”

    I don’t know if the NVA & VC tied up a division looking for him, but one of the guys I served with was shot down three times on the same day and finally ended up walking out of North Vietnam. Much more inspiring than Rambo.

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  21. @Thulean Friend
    Vietnam will likely be a developed country by the mid-2030s but it has already made enormous strides. I sometimes amuse myself by looking at Dollar Street, which is dedicated to photographing people all over the world, sorted by income class and then putting those photos out in the public domain.

    You realise quite quickly that you don't need a huge income to get the basics and even many everyday luxuries covered. I wouldn't be surprised if the average Vietnamese was happier than the average American, to the extent American can even be called a country anymore.

    Happy American in Asia

    1) Its actually more dangerous in the average American city than Asia. If you’re lost in a US city and the sun goes down, you can find yourself in serious trouble than getting lost in most Asian cities. So long as you mind your manners in Asia, you’ll probably be alright.

    2) I’ve not encountered on “chimpout” over nothing in Asia. I’ve never seen a Cholo overseas. You’ll meet A FEW black Americans and I have witnessed a public freakout at a girly bar by a seemingly well-dressed and average-looking black American in the Philippines.

    3) There are no whiggers, most of whom are a Gen Y phenomenon anyhow.

    4) White women are few and far between in Asia. For all their talk of patriarchy they are loathe to live abroad, though rape is rare in Asia of white women.

    5) You do not meet hicks in general. Most of those folks holiday on the redneck riviera or Florida. They are not inclined to travel overseas. For one thing, they have kids young. For another, they have jobs linked to the community/taxpayer.

    6) About your own country and its populace, you can say what you want. US military personnel are restricted to a base perimeter.

    7) You don’t pay taxes under $80,000 a year.

    8) Nobody can find you.

    9) You do not have to give a shit about SJW.

    10) You can get hookers, be a PUA, whatever your pleasure.

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    US military personnel are restricted to a base perimeter, because you can't have real liberty with Negroes within your midst.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fi8HTXBveUA/VOYZJf5mhSI/AAAAAAAADkU/wzsqX8617qU/s1600/5976816_G.jpg
    http://www.kxxv.com/story/27468379/ft-hood-soldier-arrested-on-post-for-alleged-sexual-assault-of-child

    Now if they'd only restrict them to base perimeter here in the US.
    , @Stonehands
    Everything you stated is TRUTH!

    I have been to China ( my wife is Chinese) and Thailand- and can’t wait to return!

    PS ... l will be giving Cambodia a shot too.. hear it’s Thailand 15 years ago.

    Man, you nailed it.
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  22. @JosephB
    You might want to actually watch the first Rambo movie. It's actually quite good, and focuses on the difficulties of a soldier readjusting to life the US after serving in combat.

    The comments on the US military were also a bit off base. The 20th century was rife with examples of countries using the military to annex territory. That there has been a sharp decrease since the end of the cold war can either be credited to newly emergent feelings of peace and love and global brotherhood, or from Pax Americana enforced by the US military.

    FIRST BLOOD

    In 1981 it was still the 70′s and in those days the Right vs Left conflict was still around. Rambo represents the worst kind of hippy to Sheriff Teasle-a pissed off veteran, long hair, bad attitude. Teasle is the sort of smug jackass with a badge that the Left disliked.

    NB Rambo would have been much better off to live what looked to be a shitty town and say “thank you for the ride officer”. He could have made it to the next diner by dinner and skipped the prison sentence.

    There was also the rural-urban divide. Rambo was a veteran (Probably originally middle-class) from Seattle and was only in the rural town to visit a fellow soldier. His appearance (Italian, scruffy, metro) did not endear him to the local cops (Who seem to be running the city like a fiefdom) who go after him talking about deer-hunting season.

    You have to remember that Vietnam and the 60′s traumatized the US for 20 years from 1963 until 1983 when Reagan really started to come into his own and the decade of Yuppies and Nationalism began. The seventies was a very downbeat period.

    This is RAMBO II is SO DIFFERENT from the first film. The second is very right-wing and jingoistic. The first is very 70′s and downbeat (It was published in 1972).

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    The first Rambo film was adapted from the novel, "First Blood." Though with important differences. Rambo kills the whole police department. And in the end, Rambo's CO -- a captain, not a colonel -- puts a bullet in Rambo's head. The novel is bleak and out to show that what goes around comes around. Trust Stallone to twist the original story into an upbeat and patriotic yarn, with the second and third even more blatantly jingoistic.
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  23. Escher says:

    I have visited Saigon numerous times, which is probably the most modern and developed place in Vietnam. It is a stretch to say that a typical Vietnamese town is more modern than your typical small town in the flyover states

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  24. The most typical Vietnamese male name is Hùng

    So the Vietnamese are aficionados of irony?

    A population so meekly clueless deserves its doom.

    What else would you expect from a people propagandized for 2,000 years by their Semitic (and later quadroon Italian RCC) masters to “spread the other cheek”? When your moral compass is determined by “men” in dresses buggering boys, and you’re too stupid to figure out that it might just be a problem, yes – you do deserve your doom.

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    Hùng is the Vietnamese reading of the Chinese character 雄, which is read as xióng in Mandarin or as hung4 in Cantonese. The meaning is, literally, "male; masculine, manly; powerful, grand; powerful or influential person or state, great man," e.g. 雄鸡 xióngjī "male chicken, cock, rooster."

    The basic meaning of hùng is "male" or "masculine" rather than "hero," although it does appear as the second element in a compound that is usually translated to English as "hero" (i.e. 英雄). It may be cognate with (or at least is pronounced the same as) Chinese 熊 (Mandarin xióng, Cantonese hung4) "bear, ursus; brilliant, bright."

    Three other words that Linh Dinh has mentioned as appearing frequently in Vietnamese toponyms are also of Chinese origin:

    an < 安 (Mandarin ān, Cantonese ngon1 ~ on1) "peaceful, tranquil, quiet" (This is the An in Annam.)
    yên < 安 (q.v.)
    bình < 平 (Mandarin píng, Cantonese ping4) "flat, level, even; peaceful" (This is also the pyeong in North Korea's Pyeongyang, btw.)

    The first two are in fact a doublet based on two different pronunciations of the very same Chinese word.

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  25. FIRST BLOOD is fairly accurate. If you are born in a Flyover town and have a decent steady job, you’d have no reason to go overseas.

    Someone who is a displaced urban person might be better off in a big Asian city.

    It isn’t for everyone. For a Vietnamese-American from Philly with connections in Vietnam, its probably a better place for them.

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  26. @Jeff Stryker
    The fact that Philly is more a Third World country than Vietnam says something about the direction that the US and the rust belt are headed.

    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.

    Of course the "townies" and "Gen Y 30 year old adolescence" and "bumpkins" and "hicks" and "rubes" have never been anywhere. So they have no basis of comparison. They are told other countries are "shitholes" and they believe it because they have never left the country.

    In point of fact Vietnam looks newer and more modern than 90% of the towns and cities in the hinterlands between, say, Chicago and Las Vegas. It is the cities like Philly in post-decline that look like "dirt world countries".

    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.

    From your lips to God’s ears, foreign devil.

    In point of fact Vietnam looks newer and more modern than 90% of the towns and cities in the hinterlands between, say, Chicago and Las Vegas. It is the cities like Philly in post-decline that look like “dirt world countries”.

    Noted, but not my point. Now that LinDin is back in the bosom, he’s feeling his anti-American oats. Oh, if only the messicans and the aferkans and the mooselimbs would feel that call, that deep and yearning call, to go TF home and stay there. ‘Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished.

    For a working, white American to no longer have to supplement the incomes of the rich by providing bazillions of POS illegal foreigners with welfare, medical, and penny-candy money — oh, for the love of God, how wonderful that would be. Almost tears me up.

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    Federal Budget Contribution, 2014
    • Whites: +$2,795 per capita surplus
    • Hispanics: -$7,700 per capita deficit
    • Blacks: -$10,016 per capita deficit

    "Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey, 'He said for you to give me your fucking share.' People." -Rust Cohle

    http://i.pinimg.com/736x/b7/2a/75/b72a751310d12e69190aae328a7de9d2.jpg
    , @Jeff Stryker
    Its a reflection that world economy moved to Asia that the relatively late-coming immigrants from Vietnam are going home.

    If things worsened, immigrants would leave. Not the Muslims, who are mostly refugees, barring the Iranian business community. But the Latinos and Asians and many of the Jews would be gone.

    They are not in the US for "love of country" or "freedom" (You can be far more free in Sicily or Mexico or Asia where you can bribe most anybody) or any of the constitutional rights stuff (Makes no difference now anyhow with SJW and hate speech).
    , @Jeff Stryker
    You're actually speaking the truth.

    Cannot argue against it.
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  27. @Jeff Stryker
    Anybody who believes that Iranians will parachute into Ohio or Florida is gullible indeed.

    Also, Europe would face such an influx of potential refugees as a result of such a war that they would apply tremendous pressure to avoid it.

    Anybody who believes that Iranians will parachute into Ohio or Florida is gullible indeed.

    Iranians? Hell, anyone with any kind of good sense stays out of Florida. Florida has more snakes that it has bugs. Not me, bruvva.

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  28. üeljang says:
    @Stan d Mute

    The most typical Vietnamese male name is Hùng
     
    So the Vietnamese are aficionados of irony?

    A population so meekly clueless deserves its doom.
     
    What else would you expect from a people propagandized for 2,000 years by their Semitic (and later quadroon Italian RCC) masters to “spread the other cheek”? When your moral compass is determined by “men” in dresses buggering boys, and you’re too stupid to figure out that it might just be a problem, yes - you do deserve your doom.

    Hùng is the Vietnamese reading of the Chinese character 雄, which is read as xióng in Mandarin or as hung4 in Cantonese. The meaning is, literally, “male; masculine, manly; powerful, grand; powerful or influential person or state, great man,” e.g. 雄鸡 xióngjī “male chicken, cock, rooster.”

    The basic meaning of hùng is “male” or “masculine” rather than “hero,” although it does appear as the second element in a compound that is usually translated to English as “hero” (i.e. 英雄). It may be cognate with (or at least is pronounced the same as) Chinese 熊 (Mandarin xióng, Cantonese hung4) “bear, ursus; brilliant, bright.”

    Three other words that Linh Dinh has mentioned as appearing frequently in Vietnamese toponyms are also of Chinese origin:

    an < 安 (Mandarin ān, Cantonese ngon1 ~ on1) “peaceful, tranquil, quiet” (This is the An in Annam.)
    yên < 安 (q.v.)
    bình < 平 (Mandarin píng, Cantonese ping4) “flat, level, even; peaceful” (This is also the pyeong in North Korea’s Pyeongyang, btw.)

    The first two are in fact a doublet based on two different pronunciations of the very same Chinese word.

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    Well, thanks for that lengthy exposition. You know what they say about Vietnamese, little hands, little feet, big briefs (I know, but pajamas doesn’t work with exposition)..

    Meanwhile, you may want to look up the meaning of the English word “hung” as it applies to human anatomical features. You are, after all, on an English language website.
    , @Jeff Stryker
    Why do Vietnamese proudly claim descent from Southern China and yet they have fought them 1000 years?
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  29. Anonymous[364] • Disclaimer says:

    Not a single nigger can I remember in the first Rambo flick. If there was a spook actor, it was so minor I forgot the role. Wouldn’t it be nice again?

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    The legitimacy of this commentary is undermined by the use of those words. You'll get us this site flagged. Also you fulfill black stereotypes about "peckerwoods" and "crackers" when you use common slurs.

    As for black characters in Rambo, the woman he visited at the beginning of the film was black.

    Casting-wise, Caruso and Dennehy both had New York accents and were clearly Irish-Americans from the East Coast.

    Otherwise, it was accurate. The town was obviously rural (Mining town).
    , @Blinky The Doormat
    Congrats on getting the *N* word in there Disclaimer. Mighty white of you.
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  30. Although I enjoy some of your articles, your underlying contempt for American foreign policy bleeds over into a contempt for the American character in general and once you notice it, its hard not to see it over and over. You are probably unaware of it, and think that you are being fair minded, and maybe you are for a non American.

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  31. Anonymous[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.
     
    From your lips to God's ears, foreign devil.

    In point of fact Vietnam looks newer and more modern than 90% of the towns and cities in the hinterlands between, say, Chicago and Las Vegas. It is the cities like Philly in post-decline that look like “dirt world countries”.
     
    Noted, but not my point. Now that LinDin is back in the bosom, he's feeling his anti-American oats. Oh, if only the messicans and the aferkans and the mooselimbs would feel that call, that deep and yearning call, to go TF home and stay there. 'Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished.

    For a working, white American to no longer have to supplement the incomes of the rich by providing bazillions of POS illegal foreigners with welfare, medical, and penny-candy money -- oh, for the love of God, how wonderful that would be. Almost tears me up.

    Federal Budget Contribution, 2014
    • Whites: +$2,795 per capita surplus
    • Hispanics: -$7,700 per capita deficit
    • Blacks: -$10,016 per capita deficit

    “Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey, ‘He said for you to give me your fucking share.’ People.” -Rust Cohle

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  32. neutral says:

    There is also a McDonald’s, overpriced by local standards, yet still filled, for it’s a destination for the nouveau riche, and for regular people to sometimes treat their kids, to expose them to how white people eat.

    Incomprehensible that there are people in Vietnam that will choose that over all the other delicious food options that exist in Vietnam.

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    Incomprehensible that there are people in Vietnam that will choose that over all the other delicious food options that exist in Vietnam.
     
    Got something against golden crispy all-white-meat chicken mcnuggets and a Dr Pepper with a fat straw? And a mccafe americano coffee for the road?

    "Miss me yet?" - Hamburglar
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  33. Linh Dinh, just out of curiosity, are you a Vietnamese citizen or an American? As usual, nice piece to read midst some crazy shit on the site. Continued success!

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  34. Anonymous[312] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    Happy American in Asia

    1) Its actually more dangerous in the average American city than Asia. If you're lost in a US city and the sun goes down, you can find yourself in serious trouble than getting lost in most Asian cities. So long as you mind your manners in Asia, you'll probably be alright.

    2) I've not encountered on "chimpout" over nothing in Asia. I've never seen a Cholo overseas. You'll meet A FEW black Americans and I have witnessed a public freakout at a girly bar by a seemingly well-dressed and average-looking black American in the Philippines.

    3) There are no whiggers, most of whom are a Gen Y phenomenon anyhow.

    4) White women are few and far between in Asia. For all their talk of patriarchy they are loathe to live abroad, though rape is rare in Asia of white women.

    5) You do not meet hicks in general. Most of those folks holiday on the redneck riviera or Florida. They are not inclined to travel overseas. For one thing, they have kids young. For another, they have jobs linked to the community/taxpayer.

    6) About your own country and its populace, you can say what you want. US military personnel are restricted to a base perimeter.

    7) You don't pay taxes under $80,000 a year.

    8) Nobody can find you.

    9) You do not have to give a shit about SJW.

    10) You can get hookers, be a PUA, whatever your pleasure.

    US military personnel are restricted to a base perimeter, because you can’t have real liberty with Negroes within your midst.

    http://www.kxxv.com/story/27468379/ft-hood-soldier-arrested-on-post-for-alleged-sexual-assault-of-child

    Now if they’d only restrict them to base perimeter here in the US.

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    BLACK SERVICEMEN ABROAD

    The black sailors docked in Dubai and there was a huge fight in KFC not an hour after they got onshore.

    Another black sailor exposed himself in public to some Filipino children in Manila.

    An Australian friend of mine was cornered by some black Marines in a bar in Dubai who wanted fight him.
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  35. … most Americans would not put up with this nonstop proximity of other bodies. Americans only get a chance to belong to a crowd at a rare football game, NASCAR rally, Insane Clown Posse concert, Burning Man or George Soros-sponsored protest, etc.

    Hmm … ride the New York City subway at rush hours and you will see that Americans are ready and willing to put up with this body-slamming torture day in and day out … just to earn a meager living. But then, “American” is an abstract concept that is always debatable. Even if a person is white and born on this land, i will challenge him to define the word and ask him — in all seriousness — where do you REALLY come from?

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    Even if a person is white and born on this land, i will challenge him to define the word and ask him — in all seriousness — where do you REALLY come from?
     
    ROFLMAO. Where do I come from, boofer? From your worst nightmare. Go ahead, make my day.

    Ah lubs it when de niggahs and "natives" gets all demanding with the "taint your land, white boy". Yeah, right, but this IS my .44 Mag and stout manila rope.
    , @anonymous
    American isn't an abstract notion. America is white. Blacks know this, and show disrespect when they're supposed to stand for the flag. Because they're not real Americans. Hispanics know they're Fake Americans too, and fly the Mexican flag. They have to go back.

    To be sure, American has always meant European.

    First Americans were European | Live Science
    livescience.com/7043-americans-european.html
     
    Even the Injuns were European in part (who knew white plus yellow equals red? lulz), albeit not as good of fighters as fully-purified Ice People. But Ice People honor their courage by naming sportsball teams after the part-white Injuns.

    DNA links Native Americans with Europeans | ScienceNordic
    sciencenordic.com/dna-links-native-americans-europeans

    "Great Surprise"—Native Americans Have West Eurasian Origins
    Oldest human genome reveals less of an East Asian ancestry than thought.
    news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131120-science-native-american-people-migration-siberia-genetics/
     
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  36. Wally says:

    Yet the ‘Vietnamese’ author lives in the US, not Vietnam.

    Case closed.

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  37. @Sun People

    ... most Americans would not put up with this nonstop proximity of other bodies. Americans only get a chance to belong to a crowd at a rare football game, NASCAR rally, Insane Clown Posse concert, Burning Man or George Soros-sponsored protest, etc.
     
    Hmm ... ride the New York City subway at rush hours and you will see that Americans are ready and willing to put up with this body-slamming torture day in and day out ... just to earn a meager living. But then, "American" is an abstract concept that is always debatable. Even if a person is white and born on this land, i will challenge him to define the word and ask him -- in all seriousness -- where do you REALLY come from?

    Even if a person is white and born on this land, i will challenge him to define the word and ask him — in all seriousness — where do you REALLY come from?

    ROFLMAO. Where do I come from, boofer? From your worst nightmare. Go ahead, make my day.

    Ah lubs it when de niggahs and “natives” gets all demanding with the “taint your land, white boy”. Yeah, right, but this IS my .44 Mag and stout manila rope.

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  38. anonymous[259] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sun People

    ... most Americans would not put up with this nonstop proximity of other bodies. Americans only get a chance to belong to a crowd at a rare football game, NASCAR rally, Insane Clown Posse concert, Burning Man or George Soros-sponsored protest, etc.
     
    Hmm ... ride the New York City subway at rush hours and you will see that Americans are ready and willing to put up with this body-slamming torture day in and day out ... just to earn a meager living. But then, "American" is an abstract concept that is always debatable. Even if a person is white and born on this land, i will challenge him to define the word and ask him -- in all seriousness -- where do you REALLY come from?

    American isn’t an abstract notion. America is white. Blacks know this, and show disrespect when they’re supposed to stand for the flag. Because they’re not real Americans. Hispanics know they’re Fake Americans too, and fly the Mexican flag. They have to go back.

    To be sure, American has always meant European.

    First Americans were European | Live Science
    livescience.com/7043-americans-european.html

    Even the Injuns were European in part (who knew white plus yellow equals red? lulz), albeit not as good of fighters as fully-purified Ice People. But Ice People honor their courage by naming sportsball teams after the part-white Injuns.

    DNA links Native Americans with Europeans | ScienceNordic
    sciencenordic.com/dna-links-native-americans-europeans

    “Great Surprise”—Native Americans Have West Eurasian Origins
    Oldest human genome reveals less of an East Asian ancestry than thought.
    news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131120-science-native-american-people-migration-siberia-genetics/

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    Native Americans are Siberian. They look Asian to me.

    As for Mexicans, they are Red Indians, but from a different country.
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  39. @üeljang
    Hùng is the Vietnamese reading of the Chinese character 雄, which is read as xióng in Mandarin or as hung4 in Cantonese. The meaning is, literally, "male; masculine, manly; powerful, grand; powerful or influential person or state, great man," e.g. 雄鸡 xióngjī "male chicken, cock, rooster."

    The basic meaning of hùng is "male" or "masculine" rather than "hero," although it does appear as the second element in a compound that is usually translated to English as "hero" (i.e. 英雄). It may be cognate with (or at least is pronounced the same as) Chinese 熊 (Mandarin xióng, Cantonese hung4) "bear, ursus; brilliant, bright."

    Three other words that Linh Dinh has mentioned as appearing frequently in Vietnamese toponyms are also of Chinese origin:

    an < 安 (Mandarin ān, Cantonese ngon1 ~ on1) "peaceful, tranquil, quiet" (This is the An in Annam.)
    yên < 安 (q.v.)
    bình < 平 (Mandarin píng, Cantonese ping4) "flat, level, even; peaceful" (This is also the pyeong in North Korea's Pyeongyang, btw.)

    The first two are in fact a doublet based on two different pronunciations of the very same Chinese word.

    Well, thanks for that lengthy exposition. You know what they say about Vietnamese, little hands, little feet, big briefs (I know, but pajamas doesn’t work with exposition)..

    Meanwhile, you may want to look up the meaning of the English word “hung” as it applies to human anatomical features. You are, after all, on an English language website.

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  40. blackswan says:

    ” America is a one party state with two right wings. Fantasy democracy substitutes for the real thing, tyranny by any standard, might over right, equity and justice be damned. Independant candidates are shunned-at times grievously abused. Governance at the Federal, State and local levels exclusively serves wealth, power and privileged interest, no others. Elections when held are farcial-easily and often rigged with electronic ease and by other devious means, most people none the wiser. Power brokers run things, ordinary people have no say what so ever. Voting is a waste of time. Why bother when your choice doesn’t count. Police state harshness punishes anyone challenging how America really works. A ruthless debauched state harming more people over a longer duration than any other country in History” Stephen Lendman

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  41. @Linh Dinh
    Hi Triumph104,

    My two years in Italy, I got by with a very crude Italian. Sorting through my papers recently, however, I discovered that one of my most extensive correspondences through the years was with my Italian friend, Cristiana Borghini, and I wrote to her exclusively in Italian.

    As a child, I studied French for years, but could never speak it. When in France, though, I can decipher many of the signs, and sort of understand most newspaper articles, and I can somewhat read Spanish.

    Preparing to spend five months in Leipzig, I tried to teach myself German, but never managed to do more than deciphering menus.


    Linh

    Thanks for the reply. My experience with Spanish is about the same as yours with French.

    A population so meekly clueless deserves its doom.

    The responses so far are certainly backing up this statement. I’m sure they are irked at having an Asian criticize the US, but when a white man says, “Make America great again.”, that is perfectly ok. Nearly every column on the Unz Review is in some fashion criticizing the US or individual Americans, but those columnists are white so that is ok.

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    You cannot really deny the criticisms. They are simply proven facts. Not that I dislike Americans who love their city or whatever. Fine. Blood and soil.

    But don't tell a white American from Detroit whose lived abroad that "Philly" is the "greatest city in the world". For my money Australia has the safest and most prosperous cities now that refugees are loose running around Eurabia.

    The fact that former Asian asylum claimants are GOING BACK reflects something because choices speak louder than words.
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  42. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.
     
    From your lips to God's ears, foreign devil.

    In point of fact Vietnam looks newer and more modern than 90% of the towns and cities in the hinterlands between, say, Chicago and Las Vegas. It is the cities like Philly in post-decline that look like “dirt world countries”.
     
    Noted, but not my point. Now that LinDin is back in the bosom, he's feeling his anti-American oats. Oh, if only the messicans and the aferkans and the mooselimbs would feel that call, that deep and yearning call, to go TF home and stay there. 'Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished.

    For a working, white American to no longer have to supplement the incomes of the rich by providing bazillions of POS illegal foreigners with welfare, medical, and penny-candy money -- oh, for the love of God, how wonderful that would be. Almost tears me up.

    Its a reflection that world economy moved to Asia that the relatively late-coming immigrants from Vietnam are going home.

    If things worsened, immigrants would leave. Not the Muslims, who are mostly refugees, barring the Iranian business community. But the Latinos and Asians and many of the Jews would be gone.

    They are not in the US for “love of country” or “freedom” (You can be far more free in Sicily or Mexico or Asia where you can bribe most anybody) or any of the constitutional rights stuff (Makes no difference now anyhow with SJW and hate speech).

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  43. nsa says:
    @JosephB
    You might want to actually watch the first Rambo movie. It's actually quite good, and focuses on the difficulties of a soldier readjusting to life the US after serving in combat.

    The comments on the US military were also a bit off base. The 20th century was rife with examples of countries using the military to annex territory. That there has been a sharp decrease since the end of the cold war can either be credited to newly emergent feelings of peace and love and global brotherhood, or from Pax Americana enforced by the US military.

    Your reality is a Rambo Joovie?

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    You might want to reread the article. It contained this bit:
    "Whereas Rambo’s role is to reassure Americans they are still invincible, that they’ll always kick ass if not for a backstabbing bureaucracy, Thương reminds Vietnamese that an individual or nation may have to endure unspeakable pain and sacrifice to possibly survive another day."

    The first, and decidedly best, Rambo movie does not remotely resemble the aspersions in this quote.
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  44. @Anonymous
    Not a single nigger can I remember in the first Rambo flick. If there was a spook actor, it was so minor I forgot the role. Wouldn't it be nice again?

    The legitimacy of this commentary is undermined by the use of those words. You’ll get us this site flagged. Also you fulfill black stereotypes about “peckerwoods” and “crackers” when you use common slurs.

    As for black characters in Rambo, the woman he visited at the beginning of the film was black.

    Casting-wise, Caruso and Dennehy both had New York accents and were clearly Irish-Americans from the East Coast.

    Otherwise, it was accurate. The town was obviously rural (Mining town).

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    The term Nigger/Negro/Nigra isn't a slur, it is simply Latin for dark/black, such as used in Crayola's "Nigger Flag" coloring page.

    Former Resident Obama has endorsed the Latin term for black when "muh niggrah" was used by a speaker at the 2016 White House Correspondent's Dinner. Obama, when asked about its use in public, said there was no problem with the term. If the former Resident of the United States didn't consider it a slur, why should you?

    Rather than a slur, the word "nigger" is a word-magic term of hallowed worship, like the unspeakable word "Jehovah." Only the anointed black priestcraft may dare say it without being accused of blasphemy. Me? I'm like the fellow in the Monty Python skit mocking the unspeakable Jewmagic word "Jehovah." I'm not moved by your concern trolling, (((High Priest of the Holy Nigger.))) Even if you do blow your whistle.
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  45. @Anonymous
    US military personnel are restricted to a base perimeter, because you can't have real liberty with Negroes within your midst.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fi8HTXBveUA/VOYZJf5mhSI/AAAAAAAADkU/wzsqX8617qU/s1600/5976816_G.jpg
    http://www.kxxv.com/story/27468379/ft-hood-soldier-arrested-on-post-for-alleged-sexual-assault-of-child

    Now if they'd only restrict them to base perimeter here in the US.

    BLACK SERVICEMEN ABROAD

    The black sailors docked in Dubai and there was a huge fight in KFC not an hour after they got onshore.

    Another black sailor exposed himself in public to some Filipino children in Manila.

    An Australian friend of mine was cornered by some black Marines in a bar in Dubai who wanted fight him.

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    The violence problem regarding black American servicemen is not widely known outside of military and foreign circles, but it is real and gives ALL American servicemen a bad name.
    Okinawa has large training areas that are utilized by American Marines, and as such is ripe for black-on-native violence. It is not uncommon to hear of rapes committed by black American servicemen on the local populace.
    In the past, when we were training for Vietnam at Camp Pendleton California, our NCOs discreetly advised us white Marines to travel in groups, as attacks on whites by roving gangs of black Marines was common.
    Despite the advance in years and so-called "civil-rights (for some)" things remain the same.
    It is interesting to note, that in the American military, very few blacks are assigned to the "combat arms" specialties, but are mostly billeted in support operations (motor pool, cooks, etc.).
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  46. @üeljang
    Hùng is the Vietnamese reading of the Chinese character 雄, which is read as xióng in Mandarin or as hung4 in Cantonese. The meaning is, literally, "male; masculine, manly; powerful, grand; powerful or influential person or state, great man," e.g. 雄鸡 xióngjī "male chicken, cock, rooster."

    The basic meaning of hùng is "male" or "masculine" rather than "hero," although it does appear as the second element in a compound that is usually translated to English as "hero" (i.e. 英雄). It may be cognate with (or at least is pronounced the same as) Chinese 熊 (Mandarin xióng, Cantonese hung4) "bear, ursus; brilliant, bright."

    Three other words that Linh Dinh has mentioned as appearing frequently in Vietnamese toponyms are also of Chinese origin:

    an < 安 (Mandarin ān, Cantonese ngon1 ~ on1) "peaceful, tranquil, quiet" (This is the An in Annam.)
    yên < 安 (q.v.)
    bình < 平 (Mandarin píng, Cantonese ping4) "flat, level, even; peaceful" (This is also the pyeong in North Korea's Pyeongyang, btw.)

    The first two are in fact a doublet based on two different pronunciations of the very same Chinese word.

    Why do Vietnamese proudly claim descent from Southern China and yet they have fought them 1000 years?

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  47. @Triumph104
    Thanks for the reply. My experience with Spanish is about the same as yours with French.

    A population so meekly clueless deserves its doom.
     
    The responses so far are certainly backing up this statement. I'm sure they are irked at having an Asian criticize the US, but when a white man says, "Make America great again.", that is perfectly ok. Nearly every column on the Unz Review is in some fashion criticizing the US or individual Americans, but those columnists are white so that is ok.

    You cannot really deny the criticisms. They are simply proven facts. Not that I dislike Americans who love their city or whatever. Fine. Blood and soil.

    But don’t tell a white American from Detroit whose lived abroad that “Philly” is the “greatest city in the world”. For my money Australia has the safest and most prosperous cities now that refugees are loose running around Eurabia.

    The fact that former Asian asylum claimants are GOING BACK reflects something because choices speak louder than words.

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    Just 2 days ago you said you were raised in Ann Arbor a lovely wealthy university town 50 miles from Detroit.

    Try to keep your stories straight.
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  48. @anonymous
    American isn't an abstract notion. America is white. Blacks know this, and show disrespect when they're supposed to stand for the flag. Because they're not real Americans. Hispanics know they're Fake Americans too, and fly the Mexican flag. They have to go back.

    To be sure, American has always meant European.

    First Americans were European | Live Science
    livescience.com/7043-americans-european.html
     
    Even the Injuns were European in part (who knew white plus yellow equals red? lulz), albeit not as good of fighters as fully-purified Ice People. But Ice People honor their courage by naming sportsball teams after the part-white Injuns.

    DNA links Native Americans with Europeans | ScienceNordic
    sciencenordic.com/dna-links-native-americans-europeans

    "Great Surprise"—Native Americans Have West Eurasian Origins
    Oldest human genome reveals less of an East Asian ancestry than thought.
    news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/11/131120-science-native-american-people-migration-siberia-genetics/
     

    Native Americans are Siberian. They look Asian to me.

    As for Mexicans, they are Red Indians, but from a different country.

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    There is no need to chimpout over a scientific article. Of course Injuns look rather Asian, 2/3rds to be exact, as the article I referenced states, "Nearly one-third of Native American genes come from west Eurasian people." Which is why we can enjoy a movie like "Dances with Wolves," but haven't yet got to see "Twerking with Sheboons." But then, I don't keep up with the Disney Channel either, so I might be behind times.
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  49. Michelle says:

    Linh loves Americans, flaws and all. Even American veterans of the Vietnam War are welcomed graciously in Vietnam. Most Vietnamese are gentle tolerant souls and only become vicious when cornered. Linh is defending Americans when he points out our decline which has been engineered by our elites. The ruination of America has come about like the Johnny Cash song, “One Piece at a Time”.

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  50. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.
     
    From your lips to God's ears, foreign devil.

    In point of fact Vietnam looks newer and more modern than 90% of the towns and cities in the hinterlands between, say, Chicago and Las Vegas. It is the cities like Philly in post-decline that look like “dirt world countries”.
     
    Noted, but not my point. Now that LinDin is back in the bosom, he's feeling his anti-American oats. Oh, if only the messicans and the aferkans and the mooselimbs would feel that call, that deep and yearning call, to go TF home and stay there. 'Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished.

    For a working, white American to no longer have to supplement the incomes of the rich by providing bazillions of POS illegal foreigners with welfare, medical, and penny-candy money -- oh, for the love of God, how wonderful that would be. Almost tears me up.

    You’re actually speaking the truth.

    Cannot argue against it.

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  51. JosephB says:
    @nsa
    Your reality is a Rambo Joovie?

    You might want to reread the article. It contained this bit:
    “Whereas Rambo’s role is to reassure Americans they are still invincible, that they’ll always kick ass if not for a backstabbing bureaucracy, Thương reminds Vietnamese that an individual or nation may have to endure unspeakable pain and sacrifice to possibly survive another day.”

    The first, and decidedly best, Rambo movie does not remotely resemble the aspersions in this quote.

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    The first, and decidedly best, Rambo movie does not remotely resemble the aspersions in this quote.
     
    I've never seen it. Movies, Rambo or otherwise, are fodder for brain-dead drones seeking visceral entertainment. As literature, as Art, as narrative ... all garbage.

    I admit to watching Casablanca, many years ago, then African Queen because Bogart was all the rage of the hipsters. Meh. To me, it's all variation on Bambi and Little Mermaid flicks the little woman bought for the kids. Same shit, different characters.
    , @Jeff Stryker
    America does not look so hot in FIRST BLOOD. A ragged broke hippie Vietnam veteran with hair to his shoulders whose obviously been wandering around sleeping rough and smoking pot for years walks THROUGH a shabby former mining town that is little more than a wide spot in the road.

    One point the first film makes is that the small towns in the sticks are nearly Third World themselves-like the shacks on the lake that Rambo wanders down to.

    Another is that US police run small towns like fiefdoms. And clearly the Korean war veteran Sheriff has issues of his own that Rambo triggers "Do you think Rambo was the only guy who had a hard time" he bellows to the military brass.

    None of this makes the US look like a utopia to me.
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  52. anarchyst says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    BLACK SERVICEMEN ABROAD

    The black sailors docked in Dubai and there was a huge fight in KFC not an hour after they got onshore.

    Another black sailor exposed himself in public to some Filipino children in Manila.

    An Australian friend of mine was cornered by some black Marines in a bar in Dubai who wanted fight him.

    The violence problem regarding black American servicemen is not widely known outside of military and foreign circles, but it is real and gives ALL American servicemen a bad name.
    Okinawa has large training areas that are utilized by American Marines, and as such is ripe for black-on-native violence. It is not uncommon to hear of rapes committed by black American servicemen on the local populace.
    In the past, when we were training for Vietnam at Camp Pendleton California, our NCOs discreetly advised us white Marines to travel in groups, as attacks on whites by roving gangs of black Marines was common.
    Despite the advance in years and so-called “civil-rights (for some)” things remain the same.
    It is interesting to note, that in the American military, very few blacks are assigned to the “combat arms” specialties, but are mostly billeted in support operations (motor pool, cooks, etc.).

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    Michigan National Guard Reserves ROTC (General discharge, heart murmur and bad hearing).

    My one buddy was stabbed by blacks in the motor pool for no reason with a screwdriver in the neck. He just wanted a Light Chicken's car (Lt. Colonel) and they didn't like it (For some reason).

    One black guy in my in the Traverse City division was busted for selling guns off the base because he was a Crip.
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  53. Anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    The legitimacy of this commentary is undermined by the use of those words. You'll get us this site flagged. Also you fulfill black stereotypes about "peckerwoods" and "crackers" when you use common slurs.

    As for black characters in Rambo, the woman he visited at the beginning of the film was black.

    Casting-wise, Caruso and Dennehy both had New York accents and were clearly Irish-Americans from the East Coast.

    Otherwise, it was accurate. The town was obviously rural (Mining town).

    The term Nigger/Negro/Nigra isn’t a slur, it is simply Latin for dark/black, such as used in Crayola’s “Nigger Flag” coloring page.

    Former Resident Obama has endorsed the Latin term for black when “muh niggrah” was used by a speaker at the 2016 White House Correspondent’s Dinner. Obama, when asked about its use in public, said there was no problem with the term. If the former Resident of the United States didn’t consider it a slur, why should you?

    Rather than a slur, the word “nigger” is a word-magic term of hallowed worship, like the unspeakable word “Jehovah.” Only the anointed black priestcraft may dare say it without being accused of blasphemy. Me? I’m like the fellow in the Monty Python skit mocking the unspeakable Jewmagic word “Jehovah.” I’m not moved by your concern trolling, (((High Priest of the Holy Nigger.))) Even if you do blow your whistle.

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    Using words like "spook" is trolling.

    It also DATES you. I'm an urban white and nobody has used the word "Spook" since I was a kid (Born 1974).

    You must be getting on to REMEMBER the word.
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  54. @Jeff Stryker
    The fact that Philly is more a Third World country than Vietnam says something about the direction that the US and the rust belt are headed.

    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.

    Of course the "townies" and "Gen Y 30 year old adolescence" and "bumpkins" and "hicks" and "rubes" have never been anywhere. So they have no basis of comparison. They are told other countries are "shitholes" and they believe it because they have never left the country.

    In point of fact Vietnam looks newer and more modern than 90% of the towns and cities in the hinterlands between, say, Chicago and Las Vegas. It is the cities like Philly in post-decline that look like "dirt world countries".

    you are right.
    you are also going to trigger a whole bunch of the government/army worshiping “patriots”

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    NORWAY

    Middle-class German-American question for you.

    What's so wonderful about the United States?
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  55. @Jeff Stryker
    "Its curious Americans want to be sent anywhere"

    Most of them are in dire need of an economic opportunity.

    Even the menial jobs are now disappearing to Mexicans.

    why do you think so many enlist to kill the “untermensches” in far away countries where the nature resources are plenty?

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  56. anarchyst says:
    @JosephB
    You might want to actually watch the first Rambo movie. It's actually quite good, and focuses on the difficulties of a soldier readjusting to life the US after serving in combat.

    The comments on the US military were also a bit off base. The 20th century was rife with examples of countries using the military to annex territory. That there has been a sharp decrease since the end of the cold war can either be credited to newly emergent feelings of peace and love and global brotherhood, or from Pax Americana enforced by the US military.

    I beg to differ.
    The “Rambo” movies reinforced the erroneous stereotype of the Vietnam veteran being a “loose cannon” ready to explode at the slightest provocation” and not to be trusted, or even recognized for the sacrifices that most were forced to make. (the draft)
    Us Vietnam veterans came home to an indifferent, ungrateful country, where military service was looked upon as a further impediment to employment opportunities (that were enshrined in American law, and were supposed to provide federal job opportunities earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans. These opportunities never materialized, as most federal government hiring managers were civilians with no military experience, and as such, shut out returning Vietnam veterans.
    The perception that us Vietnam veterans were mentally defective turned off many civilian employment opportunities, as well.
    Despite these erroneous impediments, 99% of returning Vietnam veterans quietly resumed and got on with their lives successfully.
    The so-called “Vietnam war protesters” (erroneously) felt that they held the “moral high ground” showing (fake) concern for the plight of the Vietnamese. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, the only thing these “anti-war protesters” were concerned with was “saving their own skins from the military draft”–nothing more.
    It is interesting to note that, even today, many of these (former) “anti-war protesters” are either claiming to be Vietnam veterans, or expressing (fake) remorse over not responding when called by their government for duty. Some do express a certain amount of guilt (rightly so).
    These so-called “anti-war protesters” were totally silent when word of the “boat people”, risking life and limb to escape that “communist paradise” got out. Their guilt may have finally got to them.
    The Vietnam war WAS an invasion by the North Vietnamese, who wanted to exercise control over the (more developed) South. There was no altruism–it was NOT a “civil war”. It was all about control.
    Wen the North finally seized control, they came to the conclusion that they could not exercise the same amount of communist control that they exerted in the North.
    For different and varied opinions and experiences on the Vietnam war, please obtain and read “Our War Was Different” by author Al Hemingway.

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    Us Vietnam veterans came home to an indifferent, ungrateful country, where military service was looked upon as a further impediment to employment opportunities (that were enshrined in American law, and were supposed to provide federal job opportunities earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans.
     
    Oh, crap, more of the whiny Viet vet experience.

    I joined the Navy and spent some cold days on North Atlantic sub patrols, back before SOSUS was operational. You crybaby Army draft trash were eating hot meals and smoking the best dope. You only had to do it for 18 months. All that pissing and moaning that the American girls wouldn't give you GIs no love was BULLSHIT.
    , @Jeff Stryker
    I don't think Stallone was portrayed as that crazy.

    He had relevant complaints.

    The Korean War veteran Sheriff obviously had the most issues and was "triggered" when Rambo broke out of jail.

    , @bluedog
    The truth is and was that a vote was coming up mandated by the UN, in which the South as well as the North would vote to see which form of government they wanted,when it became clear that the people would vote for their present form of government we (at that time mainly the C.I.A) were determined to prevent that vote by all means and incidents, even up the the Tonkin Bay incident and the invasion of Vietnam,another good book to read Is "Kill Anything That Moves",which of course was in the free fire zones.......
    , @Kratoklastes

    These so-called “anti-war protesters” were totally silent when word of the “boat people”, risking life and limb to escape that “communist paradise” got out.
     
    Jesus wept - that is more tin-eared than a press release by Gush Eminim.

    The 'boat people' (many thousands of whom came to Australia) weren't fleeing a "communist paradise"; they were fleeing a country that had been reduced to a pile of defoliated bomb craters with vast amounts of unexploded ordnance littering the landscape. Their means of producing barely-above-subsistence output had been lain waste by you and your buddies.

    It appears that you have trouble accepting that you played some (small) role in a very specific evil: the wanton and deliberate annihilation of the livelihoods of a largely subsistence-agriculture population, and the indiscriminate killing of upwards of 3 million civilians, based on a set of fictions that make Colin Powell's UNSC presentation look unimpeachable by comparison. I would guess you weren't a conscript.

    The primary reason that soldiers returning from Viet Nam did not receive the same hagiography as those returning from WWII, is pretty easy to understand.

    It was the media - specifically, the media's preparedness to lay out the actual facts of the situation on the ground.

    That is why ever since, the US military and government has been assiduous in ensuring that the media narrative (especially on TV and in major periodicals) is managed. Perception management, propaganda - puh-tay-ter, puh-tah-ter.

    The media had enough idealists at the time, that there was a coherent examination of the rationale for military action, and some (limited) examination of the means by which the war was actually prosecuted.

    Hersh's My Lai story, and Nick Ut's photo of Phan Thị Kim Phúc (both in 1972), forced the American public to confront the reality of what was being done to an entire population.

    Bear in mind that it was being done solely because American politicians thought they had the right to veto-by-force, the population's decision to experiment with its political and economic system. (I'm no advocate for socialism: any nation that permits that economic system to be imposed on them, faces a lower standard of living... but it is not 'our' place to prevent or reverse the imposition).

    And let's not be coy: with all that tonnage of hot death dropped from the sky, and all that defoliant laying waste to fields... the US was not winning, and hadn't been for some time.

    Can't come home a loser and expect a parade, unless there has been significant groundwork to control the narrative (as there has been in Iraq and Afghanistan).

    Tet (in '68) was a loss for the VC, but it made it absolutely clear that the VC and NLF had significant backing from sympathetic locals in the South: to be able to coordinate attacks on 100 towns and cities including Saigon (and as far south as Ca Mau and Bac Lieu, FFS), undetected until the 'kickoff', was a logistical feat that absolutely required local cooperation.

    It's right there in the flashcards that American students use to teach themselves the shallowest possible version of history:

    After the Tet offensive, the mainstream American media began to

    A. appeal to Americans to support the war effort
    B. give less air time to antiwar protesters
    C. give more air time to antiwar protesters
    D. openly criticize the war effort
     
    Flip the card... survey says... D.

    .
    .
    STOP RESISTING.
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  57. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    Native Americans are Siberian. They look Asian to me.

    As for Mexicans, they are Red Indians, but from a different country.

    There is no need to chimpout over a scientific article. Of course Injuns look rather Asian, 2/3rds to be exact, as the article I referenced states, “Nearly one-third of Native American genes come from west Eurasian people.” Which is why we can enjoy a movie like “Dances with Wolves,” but haven’t yet got to see “Twerking with Sheboons.” But then, I don’t keep up with the Disney Channel either, so I might be behind times.

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    Why are illegal immigrants from Mexico a problem then?
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  58. I was one of those unfortunate individuals who thought it was my duty to volunteer for combat in Vietnam, really the best way to advance in the US military. I became bitterly disillusioned after I returned that we had not attempted to achieve victory. No, we left the South Vietnamese to the tender mercies of the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese troops. The lucky ones escaped by helicopter airlift to waiting US Navy vessels. The not so lucky ones attempted to escape by boat with often fatal results, the number dead in the thousands. But the saddest story to me was the fate of the ex-ARVN who were given extraordinarily harsh treatment by their enemies. Apparently many Vietnam veterans have returned to revisit old haunts in that country once riddled with the debris of wrecked helicopters, aircraft, tanks and tons of other materiel. The scrap dealers should have made a fortune. But I would never return to Vietnam for the reason I could not face the people, but especially one of the still living ARVN. I would be too ashamed of myself and my country.

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  59. @anarchyst
    The violence problem regarding black American servicemen is not widely known outside of military and foreign circles, but it is real and gives ALL American servicemen a bad name.
    Okinawa has large training areas that are utilized by American Marines, and as such is ripe for black-on-native violence. It is not uncommon to hear of rapes committed by black American servicemen on the local populace.
    In the past, when we were training for Vietnam at Camp Pendleton California, our NCOs discreetly advised us white Marines to travel in groups, as attacks on whites by roving gangs of black Marines was common.
    Despite the advance in years and so-called "civil-rights (for some)" things remain the same.
    It is interesting to note, that in the American military, very few blacks are assigned to the "combat arms" specialties, but are mostly billeted in support operations (motor pool, cooks, etc.).

    Michigan National Guard Reserves ROTC (General discharge, heart murmur and bad hearing).

    My one buddy was stabbed by blacks in the motor pool for no reason with a screwdriver in the neck. He just wanted a Light Chicken’s car (Lt. Colonel) and they didn’t like it (For some reason).

    One black guy in my in the Traverse City division was busted for selling guns off the base because he was a Crip.

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  60. @JudyBlumeSussman

    Young American males will sign up tomorrow to be dispatched to Timbuktu, North or South Korea, Saskatchewan, Mars, Atlantis, wherever, because
     
    they want to belong to a crew, a team, join the long gray line, tame million-dollar machines, make the grade with Army Airborne, Infantry...

    they want to belong to a crew, a team, join the long gray line, tame million-dollar machines, make the grade with Army Airborne, Infantry…

    That’s the boilerplate. They’d have been content with a factory job, a wife and kids. Oh wait, no factories, the women are too fat to marry, the schools too stupid to educate children.

    Where do I sign?

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  61. @JosephB
    You might want to reread the article. It contained this bit:
    "Whereas Rambo’s role is to reassure Americans they are still invincible, that they’ll always kick ass if not for a backstabbing bureaucracy, Thương reminds Vietnamese that an individual or nation may have to endure unspeakable pain and sacrifice to possibly survive another day."

    The first, and decidedly best, Rambo movie does not remotely resemble the aspersions in this quote.

    The first, and decidedly best, Rambo movie does not remotely resemble the aspersions in this quote.

    I’ve never seen it. Movies, Rambo or otherwise, are fodder for brain-dead drones seeking visceral entertainment. As literature, as Art, as narrative … all garbage.

    I admit to watching Casablanca, many years ago, then African Queen because Bogart was all the rage of the hipsters. Meh. To me, it’s all variation on Bambi and Little Mermaid flicks the little woman bought for the kids. Same shit, different characters.

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  62. @anarchyst
    I beg to differ.
    The "Rambo" movies reinforced the erroneous stereotype of the Vietnam veteran being a "loose cannon" ready to explode at the slightest provocation" and not to be trusted, or even recognized for the sacrifices that most were forced to make. (the draft)
    Us Vietnam veterans came home to an indifferent, ungrateful country, where military service was looked upon as a further impediment to employment opportunities (that were enshrined in American law, and were supposed to provide federal job opportunities earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans. These opportunities never materialized, as most federal government hiring managers were civilians with no military experience, and as such, shut out returning Vietnam veterans.
    The perception that us Vietnam veterans were mentally defective turned off many civilian employment opportunities, as well.
    Despite these erroneous impediments, 99% of returning Vietnam veterans quietly resumed and got on with their lives successfully.
    The so-called "Vietnam war protesters" (erroneously) felt that they held the "moral high ground" showing (fake) concern for the plight of the Vietnamese. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, the only thing these "anti-war protesters" were concerned with was "saving their own skins from the military draft"--nothing more.
    It is interesting to note that, even today, many of these (former) "anti-war protesters" are either claiming to be Vietnam veterans, or expressing (fake) remorse over not responding when called by their government for duty. Some do express a certain amount of guilt (rightly so).
    These so-called "anti-war protesters" were totally silent when word of the "boat people", risking life and limb to escape that "communist paradise" got out. Their guilt may have finally got to them.
    The Vietnam war WAS an invasion by the North Vietnamese, who wanted to exercise control over the (more developed) South. There was no altruism--it was NOT a "civil war". It was all about control.
    Wen the North finally seized control, they came to the conclusion that they could not exercise the same amount of communist control that they exerted in the North.
    For different and varied opinions and experiences on the Vietnam war, please obtain and read "Our War Was Different" by author Al Hemingway.

    Us Vietnam veterans came home to an indifferent, ungrateful country, where military service was looked upon as a further impediment to employment opportunities (that were enshrined in American law, and were supposed to provide federal job opportunities earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans.

    Oh, crap, more of the whiny Viet vet experience.

    I joined the Navy and spent some cold days on North Atlantic sub patrols, back before SOSUS was operational. You crybaby Army draft trash were eating hot meals and smoking the best dope. You only had to do it for 18 months. All that pissing and moaning that the American girls wouldn’t give you GIs no love was BULLSHIT.

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    You have proven yourself as a phony, possible anti-war protester...
    You are jealous because you have never served in the military. You were probably one of the "anti-war protesters" who is finally feeling the "guilt" in protesting us who did serve. Or maybe you ran to Canada so that your "poor little self" would not get drafted.
    There is one thing about us Vietnam veterans that we will NEVER put up with. We will NEVER dishonor those who serve in the military, unlike those of your ilk. We will not allow those who serve to be dishonored and disrespected by these so-called anti-war protesters.
    By the way, I am a MARINE--not Army...
    IF you were in the Navy (I doubt it), you have disrespected the service.
    No regards to you, just contempt. I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with you and your delusions.
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    • Troll: anarchyst
     
    Gotcha. Were you thinking there wasn't anybody out there who could call your bullshit for what it is -- bullshit?

    All those stories and anecdotes about soldiers coming home with medals and getting spit on by prom queens they left behind was BULLSHIT. 99.9% of Vietnam veterans came home, mustered out, got a job and went directly to beer-drinking and pussy-chasing. Hamburger Hill stories ("There I was, facing 50 Cong!!") of blood and honor worked just as good as they did post-WWII.

    Yeah, you're damn right I know all about it.
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  63. @Per/Norway
    you are right.
    you are also going to trigger a whole bunch of the government/army worshiping "patriots"

    NORWAY

    Middle-class German-American question for you.

    What’s so wonderful about the United States?

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  64. @anarchyst
    I beg to differ.
    The "Rambo" movies reinforced the erroneous stereotype of the Vietnam veteran being a "loose cannon" ready to explode at the slightest provocation" and not to be trusted, or even recognized for the sacrifices that most were forced to make. (the draft)
    Us Vietnam veterans came home to an indifferent, ungrateful country, where military service was looked upon as a further impediment to employment opportunities (that were enshrined in American law, and were supposed to provide federal job opportunities earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans. These opportunities never materialized, as most federal government hiring managers were civilians with no military experience, and as such, shut out returning Vietnam veterans.
    The perception that us Vietnam veterans were mentally defective turned off many civilian employment opportunities, as well.
    Despite these erroneous impediments, 99% of returning Vietnam veterans quietly resumed and got on with their lives successfully.
    The so-called "Vietnam war protesters" (erroneously) felt that they held the "moral high ground" showing (fake) concern for the plight of the Vietnamese. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, the only thing these "anti-war protesters" were concerned with was "saving their own skins from the military draft"--nothing more.
    It is interesting to note that, even today, many of these (former) "anti-war protesters" are either claiming to be Vietnam veterans, or expressing (fake) remorse over not responding when called by their government for duty. Some do express a certain amount of guilt (rightly so).
    These so-called "anti-war protesters" were totally silent when word of the "boat people", risking life and limb to escape that "communist paradise" got out. Their guilt may have finally got to them.
    The Vietnam war WAS an invasion by the North Vietnamese, who wanted to exercise control over the (more developed) South. There was no altruism--it was NOT a "civil war". It was all about control.
    Wen the North finally seized control, they came to the conclusion that they could not exercise the same amount of communist control that they exerted in the North.
    For different and varied opinions and experiences on the Vietnam war, please obtain and read "Our War Was Different" by author Al Hemingway.

    I don’t think Stallone was portrayed as that crazy.

    He had relevant complaints.

    The Korean War veteran Sheriff obviously had the most issues and was “triggered” when Rambo broke out of jail.

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    You make a good point. The sheriff acted in the same way many of today's police departments.
    Regards,
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  65. The last paragraph “Everybody else on earth will only fight to defend their nation, however, but this is exactly what gung-ho Americans have failed to do, paradoxically, for as they bomb away everywhere…” is going to get howls of protest, hate and venom, and some nice, homely racist taunts as well.

    Mirrors get shattered by psychopaths when they don’t like what they see and many an aging tart has cursed and spat at the fair mirror on the wall. Knowing this, how could you risk holding up a mirror to the holiest of American self-images and conceit, Mr. Dinh? Kudos to you, though, for daring to call out the naked emperor.

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    There are many people who have been opposed to contrived military adventurism overseas, who realized that these 'wars' were engineered by an international set who more or less controlled all sides, who didn't buy the line of "fighting for our freedom", and who insisted that our military be used on our border to stave off the real invasion.

    Sure, as I said earlier, the average person is a gullible moron and readily parroted whatever lies their favorite newsman on TV told them (if they're even the least bit interested in politics at all, which probably half of the country is not). Some minority of Americans are even enthusiastically jingoistic. To suggest that the situation is much different in other countries (an ignorant, ill-informed and largely disinterested populace), or to suggest that Americans are all 'gung-ho' about bombing other countries... is nonsense.

    Wasn't Trump elected in large part because he said he would bring troops home, because he was against all of these wars, and because he wanted to focus on the real security threat on our border?
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  66. Military historians, I mean people who actually know what they are talking about will enlighten you about the Vietnam War. They will tell you that it was impossible to win. Why? Because, in order to win, you had to cross the DMZ and conquer the source of your opposition. But, if they cross the DMZ, then China will get into the act, cf. Korea. Don’t tell me China was not a Vietnamese ally. Get to close to their borders and they will retaliate, don’t you worry. Only, during the War of American Aggression, China had atomic bombs. Thus, the US could never cross the DMZ. The elite knew it. Why do you think they never did? Poor leadership or some sop? Don’t make me laugh. They didn’t because they couldn’t. Thus, all you whiners should realize you were doomed from the start to fight a losing war. Period. Grow up. Somebody give ‘em a parade. That’s all they really want.

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    Don't tell this to LINH DINH, the archetype Sinophobia, and his brainwashed megalomania compatriots, who believe it is the "unique" bravery, which only Vietnamese possess, that kicked the Yankees out of Vietnam.

    They proudly declare they are the only country that ass-kicked US, France, China and UK.

    (China generously had provided Vietnam $20 billion aids from 1950-1978, ca $20 per Chinese. Ingratitude is understatement to describe Vietnam.)
    , @Sam J.
    Every thing you said was ridiculous and nonsensical. If what you said was true wouldn't the same situation apply to South Korea? Yet that was different.

    I see stuff written about the Vietnam war and it never fails they don't talk at all about the whole picture. The Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia. In that aspect it won some and lost some. Vietnam had nothing to do with oil or Colonialism. Any look at a map would show it's vast strategic location for the Communist. It has one the best ports in Asia. They talk about Tet defeating us. Nothing could be further from the truth. It ended forever the Viet Cong in the South. From then on all the attacks were from the North. The next big attack...

    Jerry Pournelle,"...And in Viet Nam the North sent 150,000 men south with as much armor as the Wehrmacht had in many WW II engagements. That was in 1973, and of that 150,000 fewer than 50,000 men and no armor returned to the North, at a cost of under 1,000 American casualties. Most would count that an outstanding victory..."

    "... (Alas, in 1975 North Viet Nam had another army of over 100,000 and sent it South; the Democratic Congress voted our South Vietnamese 20 cartridges and 2 hand grenades per man, but refused naval and air support; Saigon predictably became Ho Chi Minh city as we pushed helicopters off the decks of out carriers in our frantic evacuation; but that is hardly the fault of the US military)..."

    The South lost when they ran out of ammunition. During the time we were fighting in Vietnam all the other Asian countries with their own Commies attacking them were fighting also. Many of them won. The ones that fell like Cambodia paid a harsh price. By all measurement of what we went to Vietnam for we didn't lose. It did stop the spread of Communism to all Asia. Rarely in any wars do you get all you want.

    The Democrat party has been saying that the Vets fought a losing war when in actuality the Democrats directly are responsible for the loss of South Vietnam. There are only a few highways leading South and they were packed with tanks and troop transport in '75. It would have been a complete turkey shoot like the war in Kuwait. We even had battleships at that time that could have pounded them from the coast. If we would have attacked it would have probably caused them such a defeat that they would have never attacked again maybe even the government of the North would have been overthrown by the people for such incompetence. Unfortunately the Nixon was gone and Ford was directly told if he helped the Vietnamese with air power he would be impeached.

    The idea that the Vietnam vets died for nothing is a huge psyops by the Democrats. The South had defeated all the guerillas. All they needed was support to hold off the North and the Democrats sold them out. If the South Vietnamese had not fell it's very likely that the Cambodian Genocide would have never happened.
    The Democrats had said the war was lost so many times that they had to prove it so by actually losing it.
    , @anarchyst
    You mean communist sympathizing democRAT military historians who want to whitewash their major role in giving Vietnam away to the communists. They still have guilt over their actions, but still refuse to admit it...
    To their credit, democRATS have removed their disguise and now profess to be communists...
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  67. @JosephB
    You might want to reread the article. It contained this bit:
    "Whereas Rambo’s role is to reassure Americans they are still invincible, that they’ll always kick ass if not for a backstabbing bureaucracy, Thương reminds Vietnamese that an individual or nation may have to endure unspeakable pain and sacrifice to possibly survive another day."

    The first, and decidedly best, Rambo movie does not remotely resemble the aspersions in this quote.

    America does not look so hot in FIRST BLOOD. A ragged broke hippie Vietnam veteran with hair to his shoulders whose obviously been wandering around sleeping rough and smoking pot for years walks THROUGH a shabby former mining town that is little more than a wide spot in the road.

    One point the first film makes is that the small towns in the sticks are nearly Third World themselves-like the shacks on the lake that Rambo wanders down to.

    Another is that US police run small towns like fiefdoms. And clearly the Korean war veteran Sheriff has issues of his own that Rambo triggers “Do you think Rambo was the only guy who had a hard time” he bellows to the military brass.

    None of this makes the US look like a utopia to me.

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  68. @Anonymous
    There is no need to chimpout over a scientific article. Of course Injuns look rather Asian, 2/3rds to be exact, as the article I referenced states, "Nearly one-third of Native American genes come from west Eurasian people." Which is why we can enjoy a movie like "Dances with Wolves," but haven't yet got to see "Twerking with Sheboons." But then, I don't keep up with the Disney Channel either, so I might be behind times.

    Why are illegal immigrants from Mexico a problem then?

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    Evolution from environmental pressures. Snow purifies the soul, sun darkens the heart, metaphorically speaking. An illustration from the Smithsonian Institute may help:

    http://humanorigins.si.edu/sites/default/files/styles/home_slider_phablet/public/TimeTunnelGraphic3_l.jpg

    And as you might have gathered from living near DeToilet, more melanin means more violence, in all species, including human.


    Darker pigmented people average higher levels of aggression.
    sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912000840
     
    So you tell me, Jeff, would you as a White explorer circa post-1492 rather have visited and slept overnight in Tenochtitlán or in Patuxet Village?
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  69. @Anonymous
    The term Nigger/Negro/Nigra isn't a slur, it is simply Latin for dark/black, such as used in Crayola's "Nigger Flag" coloring page.

    Former Resident Obama has endorsed the Latin term for black when "muh niggrah" was used by a speaker at the 2016 White House Correspondent's Dinner. Obama, when asked about its use in public, said there was no problem with the term. If the former Resident of the United States didn't consider it a slur, why should you?

    Rather than a slur, the word "nigger" is a word-magic term of hallowed worship, like the unspeakable word "Jehovah." Only the anointed black priestcraft may dare say it without being accused of blasphemy. Me? I'm like the fellow in the Monty Python skit mocking the unspeakable Jewmagic word "Jehovah." I'm not moved by your concern trolling, (((High Priest of the Holy Nigger.))) Even if you do blow your whistle.

    Using words like “spook” is trolling.

    It also DATES you. I’m an urban white and nobody has used the word “Spook” since I was a kid (Born 1974).

    You must be getting on to REMEMBER the word.

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    It also DATES you. I’m an urban white and nobody has used the word “Spook” since I was a kid
     
    Not exactly. "Spook" was a regional usage. Boofer, spade, blood, coon, etc. as well. None were in nationwide usage, with the exception of the universal "nigger".

    You weren't thinking "nigger" is dated, were you? ;-)
    , @Anonymous
    One must be old enough to watch—and remember—the best line from Gran Torino in 2008. Which isn't the current year.

    Gran Torino (2008)

    [walking over to some black thugs]
    Walt Kowalski: What are you spooks up to?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1205489/quotes/qt0507950
     
    But at least we know Clint Eastwood is a troll now. It must be like double plus bad, or something, to a sensitive urbanite like yourself. Jesus Christ, Jeff. What are you, half Jew or somethin'?
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  70. anarchyst says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    Us Vietnam veterans came home to an indifferent, ungrateful country, where military service was looked upon as a further impediment to employment opportunities (that were enshrined in American law, and were supposed to provide federal job opportunities earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans.
     
    Oh, crap, more of the whiny Viet vet experience.

    I joined the Navy and spent some cold days on North Atlantic sub patrols, back before SOSUS was operational. You crybaby Army draft trash were eating hot meals and smoking the best dope. You only had to do it for 18 months. All that pissing and moaning that the American girls wouldn't give you GIs no love was BULLSHIT.

    You have proven yourself as a phony, possible anti-war protester…
    You are jealous because you have never served in the military. You were probably one of the “anti-war protesters” who is finally feeling the “guilt” in protesting us who did serve. Or maybe you ran to Canada so that your “poor little self” would not get drafted.
    There is one thing about us Vietnam veterans that we will NEVER put up with. We will NEVER dishonor those who serve in the military, unlike those of your ilk. We will not allow those who serve to be dishonored and disrespected by these so-called anti-war protesters.
    By the way, I am a MARINE–not Army…
    IF you were in the Navy (I doubt it), you have disrespected the service.
    No regards to you, just contempt. I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with you and your delusions.

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    My dad served two tours in 'Nam as an officer in special forces, a green beret. Before he died, he came to realize that it was a pointless waste of American lives and treasure -- that the politicians who started and controlled the war were incompetent at best and completely full of shit at worst.

    Anyway, there's a fine line between having a strong bond with your brotherhood of fellow soldiers... and being a mindless and gullible mercenary for a ruling class who absolutely do not have the best interests of you or your nation at heart.

    There's a time to follow orders; and there's a time to question authority.
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  71. anarchyst says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    I don't think Stallone was portrayed as that crazy.

    He had relevant complaints.

    The Korean War veteran Sheriff obviously had the most issues and was "triggered" when Rambo broke out of jail.

    You make a good point. The sheriff acted in the same way many of today’s police departments.
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    TEASLE'S PERSPECTIVE

    You serve your country on bloody front lines and some hippie ex-soldier who looks like an REMF (not a Green Beret) treats you like a smug jerk-off with a badge. He looks like an urban psycho-Italian name/appearance, hair to his shoulders, obviously did his fair share of drugs, carrying a concealed weapon.

    Rambo does not mention that he is visiting a fellow soldier that undoubtedly Teasle would have known or he would have simply said "Yeah, I knew him, diner is that way".

    Yeah, Rambo has issues but Teasle shows him to the edge of town and he comes back. All Teasle wanted was for this druggy, pissed-off veteran to leave his tiny wide spot in the road alone.

    Rambo kicks the shit out him in his own office in front of his own purple hearts and medals. He sends him flying with a kick. At one point he holds a knife to his throat and cuts it.

    Obviously this triggered Teasle's anger and his own trauma.

    Rambo COULD have simply left the woods after leaving the mine and "gone to Seattle". He might have been picked up in "two weeks" as Trautman says or he might not have.

    Instead, Rambo shoots up this Korean vet's town.

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  72. @Jeff Stryker
    Using words like "spook" is trolling.

    It also DATES you. I'm an urban white and nobody has used the word "Spook" since I was a kid (Born 1974).

    You must be getting on to REMEMBER the word.

    It also DATES you. I’m an urban white and nobody has used the word “Spook” since I was a kid

    Not exactly. “Spook” was a regional usage. Boofer, spade, blood, coon, etc. as well. None were in nationwide usage, with the exception of the universal “nigger”.

    You weren’t thinking “nigger” is dated, were you? ;-)

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    "BOOFER"?

    Never heard that slur and I am from Southeast Michigan.
    , @Bard of Bumperstickers
    The factual, emotion-neutral term, "problem" should probably supplant all of those terms. Seems contemporaneous. For example, imagine this revision to the script from the movie, "Blazing Saddles": "The problem is getting nearer! The problem is getting nearer!"
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  73. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Us Vietnam veterans came home to an indifferent, ungrateful country, where military service was looked upon as a further impediment to employment opportunities (that were enshrined in American law, and were supposed to provide federal job opportunities earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans.
     
    Oh, crap, more of the whiny Viet vet experience.

    I joined the Navy and spent some cold days on North Atlantic sub patrols, back before SOSUS was operational. You crybaby Army draft trash were eating hot meals and smoking the best dope. You only had to do it for 18 months. All that pissing and moaning that the American girls wouldn't give you GIs no love was BULLSHIT.

    • Troll: anarchyst

    Gotcha. Were you thinking there wasn’t anybody out there who could call your bullshit for what it is — bullshit?

    All those stories and anecdotes about soldiers coming home with medals and getting spit on by prom queens they left behind was BULLSHIT. 99.9% of Vietnam veterans came home, mustered out, got a job and went directly to beer-drinking and pussy-chasing. Hamburger Hill stories (“There I was, facing 50 Cong!!”) of blood and honor worked just as good as they did post-WWII.

    Yeah, you’re damn right I know all about it.

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    Ha Ha...TAKE YOUR MEDS...
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  74. Divergent says:
    @seeing-thru
    The last paragraph "Everybody else on earth will only fight to defend their nation, however, but this is exactly what gung-ho Americans have failed to do, paradoxically, for as they bomb away everywhere..." is going to get howls of protest, hate and venom, and some nice, homely racist taunts as well.

    Mirrors get shattered by psychopaths when they don't like what they see and many an aging tart has cursed and spat at the fair mirror on the wall. Knowing this, how could you risk holding up a mirror to the holiest of American self-images and conceit, Mr. Dinh? Kudos to you, though, for daring to call out the naked emperor.

    There are many people who have been opposed to contrived military adventurism overseas, who realized that these ‘wars’ were engineered by an international set who more or less controlled all sides, who didn’t buy the line of “fighting for our freedom”, and who insisted that our military be used on our border to stave off the real invasion.

    Sure, as I said earlier, the average person is a gullible moron and readily parroted whatever lies their favorite newsman on TV told them (if they’re even the least bit interested in politics at all, which probably half of the country is not). Some minority of Americans are even enthusiastically jingoistic. To suggest that the situation is much different in other countries (an ignorant, ill-informed and largely disinterested populace), or to suggest that Americans are all ‘gung-ho’ about bombing other countries… is nonsense.

    Wasn’t Trump elected in large part because he said he would bring troops home, because he was against all of these wars, and because he wanted to focus on the real security threat on our border?

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    Well all of the candidates make endless promises that they know when the words leaves their mouths that they have no intention on keeping,but the sad part is the stupid electorate who believes that their hero is really going to keep all those far off promises,and then blames someone else when they fail to keep them.....
    , @seeing-thru
    I hope and wish that your points were fully correct, but fear they may not be so. My experience of world peoples, based on working, living, and traveling in several countries, is that jingoism of the worst sort is more prevalent in the USA than in other countries and cultures. It saddens me, because to my mind the US has had so much to offer the world and its people. It is also my observation that some of the best and most evolved human beings are to be found in America (perhaps I should have said were to be found, for there has been a lot of change for the worse in recent decades). I think bad things and bad psychology inevitably flow out of empire. Now if only the USA were to become a true Republic in accordance with the Constitution!
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  75. @The Alarmist

    "... have been sacked, looted, burnt or bombed through the centuries, as is typical of all settlements worldwide, except, of course, for those in the USA."
     
    Ignoring, of course, most of the cities and villages of the former CSA and a couple of those of the Union.

    Ignoring, of course, most of the cities and villages of the former CSA and a couple of those of the Union.

    True dat.

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  76. Divergent says:
    @anarchyst
    You have proven yourself as a phony, possible anti-war protester...
    You are jealous because you have never served in the military. You were probably one of the "anti-war protesters" who is finally feeling the "guilt" in protesting us who did serve. Or maybe you ran to Canada so that your "poor little self" would not get drafted.
    There is one thing about us Vietnam veterans that we will NEVER put up with. We will NEVER dishonor those who serve in the military, unlike those of your ilk. We will not allow those who serve to be dishonored and disrespected by these so-called anti-war protesters.
    By the way, I am a MARINE--not Army...
    IF you were in the Navy (I doubt it), you have disrespected the service.
    No regards to you, just contempt. I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with you and your delusions.

    My dad served two tours in ‘Nam as an officer in special forces, a green beret. Before he died, he came to realize that it was a pointless waste of American lives and treasure — that the politicians who started and controlled the war were incompetent at best and completely full of shit at worst.

    Anyway, there’s a fine line between having a strong bond with your brotherhood of fellow soldiers… and being a mindless and gullible mercenary for a ruling class who absolutely do not have the best interests of you or your nation at heart.

    There’s a time to follow orders; and there’s a time to question authority.

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    Divergent, thank you for your concise points. Your father was absolutely correct about the politicians being incompetent.
    However, not everyone's experience with Vietnam was the same or necessarily negative. Those of us who served honorably were thrust into a situation, not of our own doing, so we made the best of what we had. We did the best that we could under the circumstances.
    We DID come back to a hostile environment, the "protesters" blaming US veterans for the prosecution of the war--something we had no control over.
    The Vietnamese people were "caught between a rock and a hard place". They had to worry about insurgents from the North, the Viet Cong, the South Vietnamese military, and the corrupt South Vietnamese politicians. All they wanted to do was to be left alone.
    From the American point-of-view, the "domino effect"--the expansion of communism in the whole of Southeast Asia WAS a real worry. Fighting the war, not to win, but to follow traitor McNamara's "measured response" policy was insanity--fighting the war with "one hand tied behind our backs". The fear was that if we exercised our military might, the Soviet Union would enter the war--they were already providing support to the North with SAMs and other armaments.
    Could thing have been handled differently? Of course they could. Should we have learned from this part of American and Vietnamese history? Absolutely YES. I do hope we learned something...
    For another aspect on the war, please obtain and read "Our War Was Different" by author Al Hemingway. His book covers all points-of-view, not all positive,or negative, but a truly honest evaluation of the U S Marine Corps "Combined Action Program" by those who served in this capacity.
    I thank your father for his service and you for your comments.
    Best regards,
    P.S. Don't forget that in the days of Vietnam, the media outlets controlled the narrative, unlike today. We have the internet. I don't think that it would be possible to prosecute a war the same way the Vietnam war was prosecuted.
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  77. @anarchyst
    You make a good point. The sheriff acted in the same way many of today's police departments.
    Regards,

    TEASLE’S PERSPECTIVE

    You serve your country on bloody front lines and some hippie ex-soldier who looks like an REMF (not a Green Beret) treats you like a smug jerk-off with a badge. He looks like an urban psycho-Italian name/appearance, hair to his shoulders, obviously did his fair share of drugs, carrying a concealed weapon.

    Rambo does not mention that he is visiting a fellow soldier that undoubtedly Teasle would have known or he would have simply said “Yeah, I knew him, diner is that way”.

    Yeah, Rambo has issues but Teasle shows him to the edge of town and he comes back. All Teasle wanted was for this druggy, pissed-off veteran to leave his tiny wide spot in the road alone.

    Rambo kicks the shit out him in his own office in front of his own purple hearts and medals. He sends him flying with a kick. At one point he holds a knife to his throat and cuts it.

    Obviously this triggered Teasle’s anger and his own trauma.

    Rambo COULD have simply left the woods after leaving the mine and “gone to Seattle”. He might have been picked up in “two weeks” as Trautman says or he might not have.

    Instead, Rambo shoots up this Korean vet’s town.

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  78. @John Jeremiah Smith

    It also DATES you. I’m an urban white and nobody has used the word “Spook” since I was a kid
     
    Not exactly. "Spook" was a regional usage. Boofer, spade, blood, coon, etc. as well. None were in nationwide usage, with the exception of the universal "nigger".

    You weren't thinking "nigger" is dated, were you? ;-)

    “BOOFER”?

    Never heard that slur and I am from Southeast Michigan.

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    “BOOFER”?

    Never heard that slur and I am from Southeast Michigan.
     

    West Virginia. It implies country-boy nigra qualities.

    There is a moderator-type here who is flinching from straightforward language. Amusing.

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  79. @Anonymous
    Not a single nigger can I remember in the first Rambo flick. If there was a spook actor, it was so minor I forgot the role. Wouldn't it be nice again?

    Congrats on getting the *N* word in there Disclaimer. Mighty white of you.

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    Mighty white of me? I learned the Latin term for black from Facebook, and I think the ceo is a Jew.

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    , @Stonehands
    You’re virtue sniveling, my man.
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  80. anarchyst says:
    @Divergent
    My dad served two tours in 'Nam as an officer in special forces, a green beret. Before he died, he came to realize that it was a pointless waste of American lives and treasure -- that the politicians who started and controlled the war were incompetent at best and completely full of shit at worst.

    Anyway, there's a fine line between having a strong bond with your brotherhood of fellow soldiers... and being a mindless and gullible mercenary for a ruling class who absolutely do not have the best interests of you or your nation at heart.

    There's a time to follow orders; and there's a time to question authority.

    Divergent, thank you for your concise points. Your father was absolutely correct about the politicians being incompetent.
    However, not everyone’s experience with Vietnam was the same or necessarily negative. Those of us who served honorably were thrust into a situation, not of our own doing, so we made the best of what we had. We did the best that we could under the circumstances.
    We DID come back to a hostile environment, the “protesters” blaming US veterans for the prosecution of the war–something we had no control over.
    The Vietnamese people were “caught between a rock and a hard place”. They had to worry about insurgents from the North, the Viet Cong, the South Vietnamese military, and the corrupt South Vietnamese politicians. All they wanted to do was to be left alone.
    From the American point-of-view, the “domino effect”–the expansion of communism in the whole of Southeast Asia WAS a real worry. Fighting the war, not to win, but to follow traitor McNamara’s “measured response” policy was insanity–fighting the war with “one hand tied behind our backs”. The fear was that if we exercised our military might, the Soviet Union would enter the war–they were already providing support to the North with SAMs and other armaments.
    Could thing have been handled differently? Of course they could. Should we have learned from this part of American and Vietnamese history? Absolutely YES. I do hope we learned something…
    For another aspect on the war, please obtain and read “Our War Was Different” by author Al Hemingway. His book covers all points-of-view, not all positive,or negative, but a truly honest evaluation of the U S Marine Corps “Combined Action Program” by those who served in this capacity.
    I thank your father for his service and you for your comments.
    Best regards,
    P.S. Don’t forget that in the days of Vietnam, the media outlets controlled the narrative, unlike today. We have the internet. I don’t think that it would be possible to prosecute a war the same way the Vietnam war was prosecuted.

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    P.S. Don’t forget that in the days of Vietnam, the media outlets controlled the narrative, unlike today. We have the internet. I don’t think that it would be possible to prosecute a war the same way the Vietnam war was prosecuted.
     
    Media outlets controlled what narrative? How does the Internet change things? The media had free access in and during the Vietnam war, and stories/reporting revealed things in not such a flattering way for the Pentagon, and because of this independent media is strictly verboten in American war zones since. Only embedded(friendly) reporters are allowed - mass graves from American bombs are a no no, for today’s flat screens.

    Today, six people(and their corporate minions) control 90% of what Americans read, see, and hear from the media - that’s controlling the narrative.
    , @Divergent
    Thank you for the kind words about my father. He truly was a great and honorable man. Interestingly enough though, he rarely talked about his military service unless I asked questions, which I did often as a youngster, when we watched all of the Vietnam movies together in the '80s as they became available on VHS (Hamburger Hill, Full Metal Jacket, Missing in Action, etc.). His responses were usually brief, though, and short on details. I do recall a conversation, likely prompted from a movie like First Blood, where he mentioned the poor treatment that returning veterans received when back in the States; and that might have factored into his, sort of, "putting that chapter in his life behind him" upon his 20-year retirement (the year I was born.) As someone who enjoys learning, I came to understand the social dynamics and the politics of that era much better as I grew older. I remember asking him as a kid of perhaps 9 or 10 years old whether we won that war, and his response was along the lines of, "It's complicated. The politicians held us back. We could've won, and we did win many engagements, but we lost in the end for reasons not necessarily related to our capabilities." Anyway, he respected the cunning and tenacity of the VC.

    Anyway, I understand where you're coming from. I understand that people in the '60s had little access to information and had little reason not to trust the media and Feds. And those who were drafted, in any case, had no choice in the matter. I also understand the other side, the anti-war protestors. Both sides had valid points. Both sides were naive, in their own way.

    Taking the broader "big picture" view, however, has led me to conclude that the propaganda is different at every level. If we imagine the power structure like a pyramid, at the very top are the architects, who make the plans and control all other players. These wars are contrived by them for reasons about which we can only make educated guesses. Below them are secret societies and the like. Further down you have countries, and blocs, and systems, and leaders -- many of whom are led to believe they're competing with each other for organic reasons. If, during the game, one side gets too powerful -- the other is bolstered. I've seen much convincing evidence over the years that the entire Cold War was a sham. It only takes a handful of key players on each side for it to be so.

    The point is that the people at each level of power are told different storylines and different reasons for doing what they're told to do. At the level of the Presidency and the Pentagon, the ostensible reasoning was probably about commies getting a foothold in SE Asia. But to the puppet-masters, with regard to the US, the real reason was probably manifold: getting America into debt, culling more of our warriors, developing and profiting off of weapons systems, tarnishing our worldwide reputation, fostering dissent and fracturing politics in America... etc... All the things that have brought us to the precipice we're at today.

    What they tell the proles is different from what they tell the lackey politicians which is different from what the intelligence services think... you get the idea.
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  81. anarchyst says:
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    • Troll: anarchyst
     
    Gotcha. Were you thinking there wasn't anybody out there who could call your bullshit for what it is -- bullshit?

    All those stories and anecdotes about soldiers coming home with medals and getting spit on by prom queens they left behind was BULLSHIT. 99.9% of Vietnam veterans came home, mustered out, got a job and went directly to beer-drinking and pussy-chasing. Hamburger Hill stories ("There I was, facing 50 Cong!!") of blood and honor worked just as good as they did post-WWII.

    Yeah, you're damn right I know all about it.

    Ha Ha…TAKE YOUR MEDS…

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  82. Anonymous[269] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    Using words like "spook" is trolling.

    It also DATES you. I'm an urban white and nobody has used the word "Spook" since I was a kid (Born 1974).

    You must be getting on to REMEMBER the word.

    One must be old enough to watch—and remember—the best line from Gran Torino in 2008. Which isn’t the current year.

    Gran Torino (2008)

    [walking over to some black thugs]
    Walt Kowalski: What are you spooks up to?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1205489/quotes/qt0507950

    But at least we know Clint Eastwood is a troll now. It must be like double plus bad, or something, to a sensitive urbanite like yourself. Jesus Christ, Jeff. What are you, half Jew or somethin’?

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    "Dune Coon"

    What people use to call Iranian immigrants in the US.
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  83. bluedog says:
    @anarchyst
    I beg to differ.
    The "Rambo" movies reinforced the erroneous stereotype of the Vietnam veteran being a "loose cannon" ready to explode at the slightest provocation" and not to be trusted, or even recognized for the sacrifices that most were forced to make. (the draft)
    Us Vietnam veterans came home to an indifferent, ungrateful country, where military service was looked upon as a further impediment to employment opportunities (that were enshrined in American law, and were supposed to provide federal job opportunities earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans. These opportunities never materialized, as most federal government hiring managers were civilians with no military experience, and as such, shut out returning Vietnam veterans.
    The perception that us Vietnam veterans were mentally defective turned off many civilian employment opportunities, as well.
    Despite these erroneous impediments, 99% of returning Vietnam veterans quietly resumed and got on with their lives successfully.
    The so-called "Vietnam war protesters" (erroneously) felt that they held the "moral high ground" showing (fake) concern for the plight of the Vietnamese. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, the only thing these "anti-war protesters" were concerned with was "saving their own skins from the military draft"--nothing more.
    It is interesting to note that, even today, many of these (former) "anti-war protesters" are either claiming to be Vietnam veterans, or expressing (fake) remorse over not responding when called by their government for duty. Some do express a certain amount of guilt (rightly so).
    These so-called "anti-war protesters" were totally silent when word of the "boat people", risking life and limb to escape that "communist paradise" got out. Their guilt may have finally got to them.
    The Vietnam war WAS an invasion by the North Vietnamese, who wanted to exercise control over the (more developed) South. There was no altruism--it was NOT a "civil war". It was all about control.
    Wen the North finally seized control, they came to the conclusion that they could not exercise the same amount of communist control that they exerted in the North.
    For different and varied opinions and experiences on the Vietnam war, please obtain and read "Our War Was Different" by author Al Hemingway.

    The truth is and was that a vote was coming up mandated by the UN, in which the South as well as the North would vote to see which form of government they wanted,when it became clear that the people would vote for their present form of government we (at that time mainly the C.I.A) were determined to prevent that vote by all means and incidents, even up the the Tonkin Bay incident and the invasion of Vietnam,another good book to read Is “Kill Anything That Moves”,which of course was in the free fire zones…….

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  84. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Blinky The Doormat
    Congrats on getting the *N* word in there Disclaimer. Mighty white of you.

    Mighty white of me? I learned the Latin term for black from Facebook, and I think the ceo is a Jew.

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  85. bluedog says:
    @Divergent
    There are many people who have been opposed to contrived military adventurism overseas, who realized that these 'wars' were engineered by an international set who more or less controlled all sides, who didn't buy the line of "fighting for our freedom", and who insisted that our military be used on our border to stave off the real invasion.

    Sure, as I said earlier, the average person is a gullible moron and readily parroted whatever lies their favorite newsman on TV told them (if they're even the least bit interested in politics at all, which probably half of the country is not). Some minority of Americans are even enthusiastically jingoistic. To suggest that the situation is much different in other countries (an ignorant, ill-informed and largely disinterested populace), or to suggest that Americans are all 'gung-ho' about bombing other countries... is nonsense.

    Wasn't Trump elected in large part because he said he would bring troops home, because he was against all of these wars, and because he wanted to focus on the real security threat on our border?

    Well all of the candidates make endless promises that they know when the words leaves their mouths that they have no intention on keeping,but the sad part is the stupid electorate who believes that their hero is really going to keep all those far off promises,and then blames someone else when they fail to keep them…..

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  86. Anonymous[631] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    Why are illegal immigrants from Mexico a problem then?

    Evolution from environmental pressures. Snow purifies the soul, sun darkens the heart, metaphorically speaking. An illustration from the Smithsonian Institute may help:

    And as you might have gathered from living near DeToilet, more melanin means more violence, in all species, including human.

    Darker pigmented people average higher levels of aggression.
    sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912000840

    So you tell me, Jeff, would you as a White explorer circa post-1492 rather have visited and slept overnight in Tenochtitlán or in Patuxet Village?

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    I can't know BUT whites in Mexico are part of the problem. The 10% white elite who own Mexico (The Mexican president right now is a dead ringer for Charlie Sheen) have made Latin America so awful for Indians that they have no choice but to flee.
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  87. @Jeff Stryker
    "BOOFER"?

    Never heard that slur and I am from Southeast Michigan.

    “BOOFER”?

    Never heard that slur and I am from Southeast Michigan.

    West Virginia. It implies country-boy nigra qualities.

    There is a moderator-type here who is flinching from straightforward language. Amusing.

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  88. Biff says:
    @anarchyst
    Divergent, thank you for your concise points. Your father was absolutely correct about the politicians being incompetent.
    However, not everyone's experience with Vietnam was the same or necessarily negative. Those of us who served honorably were thrust into a situation, not of our own doing, so we made the best of what we had. We did the best that we could under the circumstances.
    We DID come back to a hostile environment, the "protesters" blaming US veterans for the prosecution of the war--something we had no control over.
    The Vietnamese people were "caught between a rock and a hard place". They had to worry about insurgents from the North, the Viet Cong, the South Vietnamese military, and the corrupt South Vietnamese politicians. All they wanted to do was to be left alone.
    From the American point-of-view, the "domino effect"--the expansion of communism in the whole of Southeast Asia WAS a real worry. Fighting the war, not to win, but to follow traitor McNamara's "measured response" policy was insanity--fighting the war with "one hand tied behind our backs". The fear was that if we exercised our military might, the Soviet Union would enter the war--they were already providing support to the North with SAMs and other armaments.
    Could thing have been handled differently? Of course they could. Should we have learned from this part of American and Vietnamese history? Absolutely YES. I do hope we learned something...
    For another aspect on the war, please obtain and read "Our War Was Different" by author Al Hemingway. His book covers all points-of-view, not all positive,or negative, but a truly honest evaluation of the U S Marine Corps "Combined Action Program" by those who served in this capacity.
    I thank your father for his service and you for your comments.
    Best regards,
    P.S. Don't forget that in the days of Vietnam, the media outlets controlled the narrative, unlike today. We have the internet. I don't think that it would be possible to prosecute a war the same way the Vietnam war was prosecuted.

    P.S. Don’t forget that in the days of Vietnam, the media outlets controlled the narrative, unlike today. We have the internet. I don’t think that it would be possible to prosecute a war the same way the Vietnam war was prosecuted.

    Media outlets controlled what narrative? How does the Internet change things? The media had free access in and during the Vietnam war, and stories/reporting revealed things in not such a flattering way for the Pentagon, and because of this independent media is strictly verboten in American war zones since. Only embedded(friendly) reporters are allowed – mass graves from American bombs are a no no, for today’s flat screens.

    Today, six people(and their corporate minions) control 90% of what Americans read, see, and hear from the media – that’s controlling the narrative.

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    You make a good point about the media being controlled by 6 corporations. You are also correct in stating that the media had "free reign" in Vietnam, but, I must respectfully disagree with you in your statement that the media was reporting honestly and did not have an "agenda" in Vietnam. All one has to do is look at the Walter Cronkite description of the Tet offensive being a "victory" for the communists, despite massive communist losses in every attack. The mainstream media's communist sympathies were evident in their one-sided "reporting". I served in Vietnam and saw a reporter ONCE--they showed no interest in the civic-action programs undertaken by the U S military. They wanted stories about violence--"if it bleeds it leads". They wrote their stories and delivered their dispatches from the bars in Saigon.
    The media has NEVER been honest, and always has had a "soft spot" for communism and left-wing causes. Look up Walter Duranty and his lies about the Ukraine holodomor...
    As to your assertion that the internet does not change things, you are mistaken. The mainstream media FEARS the internet, because the internet makes it possible for anyone to be a true "journalist". Anyone can start a blog and get his or her message out without the constraints and negative influence of the mainstream media. The mainstream media no longer has a "lock" in what is disseminated as "news". This is why there s a left-wing push to "regulate" and "license" journalists...
    Regards,
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  89. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    You cannot really deny the criticisms. They are simply proven facts. Not that I dislike Americans who love their city or whatever. Fine. Blood and soil.

    But don't tell a white American from Detroit whose lived abroad that "Philly" is the "greatest city in the world". For my money Australia has the safest and most prosperous cities now that refugees are loose running around Eurabia.

    The fact that former Asian asylum claimants are GOING BACK reflects something because choices speak louder than words.

    Just 2 days ago you said you were raised in Ann Arbor a lovely wealthy university town 50 miles from Detroit.

    Try to keep your stories straight.

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    I am from Ann Arbor. Its in the same country as Detroit. Washtenaw. About 40 miles away.

    You're not even white and have not even been to the US. You're a Farsi or some other sort of foreigner.

    You've probably never even BEEN to the US.
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  90. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Everybody else on earth will only fight to defend their nation, however, but this is exactly what gung-ho Americans have failed to do, paradoxically, for as they bomb away everywhere, their homeland is raped and disfigured beyond recognition, but I’m no longer appalled by this. A population so meekly clueless deserves its doom.
     
    ROFL. Welcome home, commie. Ain't it a relief to finally feel like you're free to say America, and Americans, suck?

    Live it, brother. Breathe it. You're finally safe in the bosom. Find yourself a juicy tit, and suck.

    ROFL. Welcome home, commie. Ain’t it a relief to finally feel like you’re free to say America, and Americans, suck?

    Keep laughing, sucker!

    Your lovely USA was subverted by Commies decades ago (think FDR) and you still remain ignorant of it, but at least you have company; probably 98% of today’s (and yesterday’s) ‘Merkins are obviously as smug and clueless as your comment reveals you to be.

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    Your lovely USA was subverted by Commies decades ago (think FDR) and you still remain ignorant of it, but at least you have company; probably 98% of today’s (and yesterday’s) ‘Merkins are obviously as smug and clueless as your comment reveals you to be.
     
    The commies are gone, rube. This country has been destroyed by an unrelentingly rapacious wealthy class, which, having gained full control of government and media, will never cease pillaging what's left of America.

    And, face it, there is not a whole lot left.

    In the future, when you wish to pick a fight with me -- apparently for the pure joy of it -- please rely upon factual representations.
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  91. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Everybody else on earth will only fight to defend their nation, however, but this is exactly what gung-ho Americans have failed to do, paradoxically, for as they bomb away everywhere, their homeland is raped and disfigured beyond recognition, but I’m no longer appalled by this. A population so meekly clueless deserves its doom.
     
    ROFL. Welcome home, commie. Ain't it a relief to finally feel like you're free to say America, and Americans, suck?

    Live it, brother. Breathe it. You're finally safe in the bosom. Find yourself a juicy tit, and suck.

    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.

    Trying?

    Ask Jesse Ventura, Fred Reed and many many others.

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    Ask Jesse Ventura, Fred Reed and many many others.

     

    You've got a miss-read going there, bucko. Give it a few more posts before you decide I am The Enemy. A lot of it is simply sardonic commentary. However, if you are a believer in the mythos of "Godless Commanizm", we will be an unhappy couple. Communism has never existed, can never exist, and will never exist. What's wrong with our world is corrupt, inhuman sons of bitches laying waste to what's left of human civilization. If you're stupid enough to call that "communism", I've got a bridge you can bid on.
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  92. …paradoxically, for as they bomb away everywhere, their homeland is raped and disfigured beyond recognition…

    That observation is so true, that it’s mind boggling. The US has been the tool of sadistic psychopaths for decades.

    In America Communist penetration began at the end of the First War and continued after it.

    Misleadership at the top took the form of official encouragement, and the stealthy process continued step by step. In 1925 Congress, at some prompting, refused grants to the Department of Justice for investigative work. In 1931 a Congressional Report stated…Thus Military Intelligence and the Department of Justice were both hamstrung. That left only Naval Intelligence, which in 1935 issued ‘a comprehensive survey of Communist activities in the United States’. Thereon President Roosevelt, prompted by a body called ‘The National Conference of Jews and Christians’, publicly forbade further Army or Navy reports.

    …The support given by high places to Communism in America may remain for ever unexplained. …True, its aims were beyond doubt. Its leaders, from Stalin and Lenin back to Karl Marx and Adam Weishaupt and far beyond, all plainly stated that its object was to destroy Christianity and legitimate authority everywhere; that it existed long before Marx’s Communist Manifesto of 1848 but until then as ‘a secret society’; that, it must use ‘the Trojan horse method of penetrating established governments and communities’ and ‘work illegally behind the screen of legality’; that its goal was ‘the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions’ and so on. [People]were encouraged by their leaders to think that the Communist Revolution was the spontaneous uprising of oppressed Russians, which it was not, and the suppression of American and British official papers about that event helped delude them…

    -Douglas Reed, Far and Wide, p193-4 (1951)

    https://ia800300.us.archive.org/16/items/FarAndWide/far.pdf

    Read the Forward, and Chapters 10,14, and 40 of part 1, and all of part 2.

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  93. @neutral

    There is also a McDonald’s, overpriced by local standards, yet still filled, for it’s a destination for the nouveau riche, and for regular people to sometimes treat their kids, to expose them to how white people eat.
     
    Incomprehensible that there are people in Vietnam that will choose that over all the other delicious food options that exist in Vietnam.

    Incomprehensible that there are people in Vietnam that will choose that over all the other delicious food options that exist in Vietnam.

    Got something against golden crispy all-white-meat chicken mcnuggets and a Dr Pepper with a fat straw? And a mccafe americano coffee for the road?

    “Miss me yet?” – Hamburglar

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    No and if you love a country than that is your business.

    The US citizens who choose to live in Asia will be male, white, near to middle age, mostly of a middle-class background.

    You don't meet many white women who want to live in Asia. Its only males.
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  94. @John Jeremiah Smith

    It also DATES you. I’m an urban white and nobody has used the word “Spook” since I was a kid
     
    Not exactly. "Spook" was a regional usage. Boofer, spade, blood, coon, etc. as well. None were in nationwide usage, with the exception of the universal "nigger".

    You weren't thinking "nigger" is dated, were you? ;-)

    The factual, emotion-neutral term, “problem” should probably supplant all of those terms. Seems contemporaneous. For example, imagine this revision to the script from the movie, “Blazing Saddles”: “The problem is getting nearer! The problem is getting nearer!”

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  95. Divergent says:
    @anarchyst
    Divergent, thank you for your concise points. Your father was absolutely correct about the politicians being incompetent.
    However, not everyone's experience with Vietnam was the same or necessarily negative. Those of us who served honorably were thrust into a situation, not of our own doing, so we made the best of what we had. We did the best that we could under the circumstances.
    We DID come back to a hostile environment, the "protesters" blaming US veterans for the prosecution of the war--something we had no control over.
    The Vietnamese people were "caught between a rock and a hard place". They had to worry about insurgents from the North, the Viet Cong, the South Vietnamese military, and the corrupt South Vietnamese politicians. All they wanted to do was to be left alone.
    From the American point-of-view, the "domino effect"--the expansion of communism in the whole of Southeast Asia WAS a real worry. Fighting the war, not to win, but to follow traitor McNamara's "measured response" policy was insanity--fighting the war with "one hand tied behind our backs". The fear was that if we exercised our military might, the Soviet Union would enter the war--they were already providing support to the North with SAMs and other armaments.
    Could thing have been handled differently? Of course they could. Should we have learned from this part of American and Vietnamese history? Absolutely YES. I do hope we learned something...
    For another aspect on the war, please obtain and read "Our War Was Different" by author Al Hemingway. His book covers all points-of-view, not all positive,or negative, but a truly honest evaluation of the U S Marine Corps "Combined Action Program" by those who served in this capacity.
    I thank your father for his service and you for your comments.
    Best regards,
    P.S. Don't forget that in the days of Vietnam, the media outlets controlled the narrative, unlike today. We have the internet. I don't think that it would be possible to prosecute a war the same way the Vietnam war was prosecuted.

    Thank you for the kind words about my father. He truly was a great and honorable man. Interestingly enough though, he rarely talked about his military service unless I asked questions, which I did often as a youngster, when we watched all of the Vietnam movies together in the ’80s as they became available on VHS (Hamburger Hill, Full Metal Jacket, Missing in Action, etc.). His responses were usually brief, though, and short on details. I do recall a conversation, likely prompted from a movie like First Blood, where he mentioned the poor treatment that returning veterans received when back in the States; and that might have factored into his, sort of, “putting that chapter in his life behind him” upon his 20-year retirement (the year I was born.) As someone who enjoys learning, I came to understand the social dynamics and the politics of that era much better as I grew older. I remember asking him as a kid of perhaps 9 or 10 years old whether we won that war, and his response was along the lines of, “It’s complicated. The politicians held us back. We could’ve won, and we did win many engagements, but we lost in the end for reasons not necessarily related to our capabilities.” Anyway, he respected the cunning and tenacity of the VC.

    Anyway, I understand where you’re coming from. I understand that people in the ’60s had little access to information and had little reason not to trust the media and Feds. And those who were drafted, in any case, had no choice in the matter. I also understand the other side, the anti-war protestors. Both sides had valid points. Both sides were naive, in their own way.

    Taking the broader “big picture” view, however, has led me to conclude that the propaganda is different at every level. If we imagine the power structure like a pyramid, at the very top are the architects, who make the plans and control all other players. These wars are contrived by them for reasons about which we can only make educated guesses. Below them are secret societies and the like. Further down you have countries, and blocs, and systems, and leaders — many of whom are led to believe they’re competing with each other for organic reasons. If, during the game, one side gets too powerful — the other is bolstered. I’ve seen much convincing evidence over the years that the entire Cold War was a sham. It only takes a handful of key players on each side for it to be so.

    The point is that the people at each level of power are told different storylines and different reasons for doing what they’re told to do. At the level of the Presidency and the Pentagon, the ostensible reasoning was probably about commies getting a foothold in SE Asia. But to the puppet-masters, with regard to the US, the real reason was probably manifold: getting America into debt, culling more of our warriors, developing and profiting off of weapons systems, tarnishing our worldwide reputation, fostering dissent and fracturing politics in America… etc… All the things that have brought us to the precipice we’re at today.

    What they tell the proles is different from what they tell the lackey politicians which is different from what the intelligence services think… you get the idea.

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    We could’ve won...
     
    In the same way a team of football players could have beat up 2 or 3 kindergartners. Vietnam was an agricultural country of about 35 million (1960) having suffered through French colonialism and the world wars while the US was highly industrialized, aggressive, and had a population of about 160 million (around 4X that of Vietnam) at that time. So, it was in no way a fair fight and "could have won" is a meaningless concept, even if true.

    Ever read, "War is a Racket," by someone with a ring-side seat?

    “… I spent most of my [33 years in the Marine Corps] being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers.

    In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for [crony] capitalism.”

    Major General Butler USMC, War is a Racket, 1935

    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
     
    Also, depending on who "we" is, and what one means by "winning," it's clear to me that most 'Merkins have never won a war, though their handlers have.
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  96. @Anon
    Just 2 days ago you said you were raised in Ann Arbor a lovely wealthy university town 50 miles from Detroit.

    Try to keep your stories straight.

    I am from Ann Arbor. Its in the same country as Detroit. Washtenaw. About 40 miles away.

    You’re not even white and have not even been to the US. You’re a Farsi or some other sort of foreigner.

    You’ve probably never even BEEN to the US.

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  97. @Anonymous
    One must be old enough to watch—and remember—the best line from Gran Torino in 2008. Which isn't the current year.

    Gran Torino (2008)

    [walking over to some black thugs]
    Walt Kowalski: What are you spooks up to?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1205489/quotes/qt0507950
     
    But at least we know Clint Eastwood is a troll now. It must be like double plus bad, or something, to a sensitive urbanite like yourself. Jesus Christ, Jeff. What are you, half Jew or somethin'?

    “Dune Coon”

    What people use to call Iranian immigrants in the US.

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  98. @Anonymous
    Evolution from environmental pressures. Snow purifies the soul, sun darkens the heart, metaphorically speaking. An illustration from the Smithsonian Institute may help:

    http://humanorigins.si.edu/sites/default/files/styles/home_slider_phablet/public/TimeTunnelGraphic3_l.jpg

    And as you might have gathered from living near DeToilet, more melanin means more violence, in all species, including human.


    Darker pigmented people average higher levels of aggression.
    sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912000840
     
    So you tell me, Jeff, would you as a White explorer circa post-1492 rather have visited and slept overnight in Tenochtitlán or in Patuxet Village?

    I can’t know BUT whites in Mexico are part of the problem. The 10% white elite who own Mexico (The Mexican president right now is a dead ringer for Charlie Sheen) have made Latin America so awful for Indians that they have no choice but to flee.

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  99. @JudyBlumeSussman

    Incomprehensible that there are people in Vietnam that will choose that over all the other delicious food options that exist in Vietnam.
     
    Got something against golden crispy all-white-meat chicken mcnuggets and a Dr Pepper with a fat straw? And a mccafe americano coffee for the road?

    "Miss me yet?" - Hamburglar

    No and if you love a country than that is your business.

    The US citizens who choose to live in Asia will be male, white, near to middle age, mostly of a middle-class background.

    You don’t meet many white women who want to live in Asia. Its only males.

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    You don’t meet many white women who want to live in Asia. Its only males.
     
    In the past most likely, but now I see them much more often.
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  100. @Divergent
    It was an interesting read until the last few paragraphs...

    Yes there is a subset of the American population, and of the military, who believe what they're told by media and government -- which, whether true or false, is almost always framed such that our troops are being sent overseas to do good, for humanitarian reasons, to help people, and save them from the bad guys.

    Yes, as in every military, there are young men who join because they want to kick ass -- but I think the percentage who are pychopathic sadists is far lower than our author seems to believe, and probably no higher than what would find in any east Asian country's general population (much less the military). After all, genomic studies have shown the relative dearth among 'mongoloids' of the alleles which code for oxytocin (empathy, love).

    Indeed, doom is probably coming for us. Some Americans will deserve it. Many will not.

    Deserve’s got nuthin’ to do with it!

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  101. bossel says:

    Everybody else on earth will only fight to defend their nation

    Good one. Or are you talking of some alternative dimension?

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  102. Americans deserve what they get. I agree absolutely and totally.

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    Thanks for the website link, nice humor and attitude.
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  103. anarchyst says:
    @Biff

    P.S. Don’t forget that in the days of Vietnam, the media outlets controlled the narrative, unlike today. We have the internet. I don’t think that it would be possible to prosecute a war the same way the Vietnam war was prosecuted.
     
    Media outlets controlled what narrative? How does the Internet change things? The media had free access in and during the Vietnam war, and stories/reporting revealed things in not such a flattering way for the Pentagon, and because of this independent media is strictly verboten in American war zones since. Only embedded(friendly) reporters are allowed - mass graves from American bombs are a no no, for today’s flat screens.

    Today, six people(and their corporate minions) control 90% of what Americans read, see, and hear from the media - that’s controlling the narrative.

    You make a good point about the media being controlled by 6 corporations. You are also correct in stating that the media had “free reign” in Vietnam, but, I must respectfully disagree with you in your statement that the media was reporting honestly and did not have an “agenda” in Vietnam. All one has to do is look at the Walter Cronkite description of the Tet offensive being a “victory” for the communists, despite massive communist losses in every attack. The mainstream media’s communist sympathies were evident in their one-sided “reporting”. I served in Vietnam and saw a reporter ONCE–they showed no interest in the civic-action programs undertaken by the U S military. They wanted stories about violence–”if it bleeds it leads”. They wrote their stories and delivered their dispatches from the bars in Saigon.
    The media has NEVER been honest, and always has had a “soft spot” for communism and left-wing causes. Look up Walter Duranty and his lies about the Ukraine holodomor…
    As to your assertion that the internet does not change things, you are mistaken. The mainstream media FEARS the internet, because the internet makes it possible for anyone to be a true “journalist”. Anyone can start a blog and get his or her message out without the constraints and negative influence of the mainstream media. The mainstream media no longer has a “lock” in what is disseminated as “news”. This is why there s a left-wing push to “regulate” and “license” journalists…
    Regards,

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    respectfully disagree with you in your statement that the media was reporting honestly
     
    If I ever said such a thing, or say such a thing in the future, please gun me down.

    As to your assertion that the internet does not change things,
     
    Never asserted that! I just asked your opinion how it changed things, and I pretty much agree - the corporate media is deathly afraid of the Internet. The election of Donald Trump hit them like a bolt lightning, and gave them a shock they’ve never felt before, and you can sum it up in four words “they lost the narrative”. The corporate media is in full damage control using “Russian meddling”(invented out of pure cloth) to justify social media(aka the Internet) control/regulation. Also, “fake news” is another blunt instrument to regulate, or at the very least, to discredit other sources. The media’s behavior is quite distinct in the before and after paradigm of Trump’s election.

    One last question? What’s changed in how the media covers today’s wars? I would assume you would see somewhat of a difference the way Iraq was covered, and Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, or even back to the Dan Rather days of covering the war in Serbia, and his bogus refugee crisis(I think it’s just a bunch of people walking over to get some McDonalds Dan!). Talk about agendas.
    , @prusmc
    All so true! The MSN and the permanent government insiders will put the little guys out of action after they cement their control in November. Think John Warner and Richard Murphy for starters.
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  104. @Divergent
    Thank you for the kind words about my father. He truly was a great and honorable man. Interestingly enough though, he rarely talked about his military service unless I asked questions, which I did often as a youngster, when we watched all of the Vietnam movies together in the '80s as they became available on VHS (Hamburger Hill, Full Metal Jacket, Missing in Action, etc.). His responses were usually brief, though, and short on details. I do recall a conversation, likely prompted from a movie like First Blood, where he mentioned the poor treatment that returning veterans received when back in the States; and that might have factored into his, sort of, "putting that chapter in his life behind him" upon his 20-year retirement (the year I was born.) As someone who enjoys learning, I came to understand the social dynamics and the politics of that era much better as I grew older. I remember asking him as a kid of perhaps 9 or 10 years old whether we won that war, and his response was along the lines of, "It's complicated. The politicians held us back. We could've won, and we did win many engagements, but we lost in the end for reasons not necessarily related to our capabilities." Anyway, he respected the cunning and tenacity of the VC.

    Anyway, I understand where you're coming from. I understand that people in the '60s had little access to information and had little reason not to trust the media and Feds. And those who were drafted, in any case, had no choice in the matter. I also understand the other side, the anti-war protestors. Both sides had valid points. Both sides were naive, in their own way.

    Taking the broader "big picture" view, however, has led me to conclude that the propaganda is different at every level. If we imagine the power structure like a pyramid, at the very top are the architects, who make the plans and control all other players. These wars are contrived by them for reasons about which we can only make educated guesses. Below them are secret societies and the like. Further down you have countries, and blocs, and systems, and leaders -- many of whom are led to believe they're competing with each other for organic reasons. If, during the game, one side gets too powerful -- the other is bolstered. I've seen much convincing evidence over the years that the entire Cold War was a sham. It only takes a handful of key players on each side for it to be so.

    The point is that the people at each level of power are told different storylines and different reasons for doing what they're told to do. At the level of the Presidency and the Pentagon, the ostensible reasoning was probably about commies getting a foothold in SE Asia. But to the puppet-masters, with regard to the US, the real reason was probably manifold: getting America into debt, culling more of our warriors, developing and profiting off of weapons systems, tarnishing our worldwide reputation, fostering dissent and fracturing politics in America... etc... All the things that have brought us to the precipice we're at today.

    What they tell the proles is different from what they tell the lackey politicians which is different from what the intelligence services think... you get the idea.

    We could’ve won…

    In the same way a team of football players could have beat up 2 or 3 kindergartners. Vietnam was an agricultural country of about 35 million (1960) having suffered through French colonialism and the world wars while the US was highly industrialized, aggressive, and had a population of about 160 million (around 4X that of Vietnam) at that time. So, it was in no way a fair fight and “could have won” is a meaningless concept, even if true.

    Ever read, “War is a Racket,” by someone with a ring-side seat?

    “… I spent most of my [33 years in the Marine Corps] being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers.

    In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for [crony] capitalism.”

    Major General Butler USMC, War is a Racket, 1935

    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html

    Also, depending on who “we” is, and what one means by “winning,” it’s clear to me that most ‘Merkins have never won a war, though their handlers have.

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  105. Biff says:
    @anarchyst
    You make a good point about the media being controlled by 6 corporations. You are also correct in stating that the media had "free reign" in Vietnam, but, I must respectfully disagree with you in your statement that the media was reporting honestly and did not have an "agenda" in Vietnam. All one has to do is look at the Walter Cronkite description of the Tet offensive being a "victory" for the communists, despite massive communist losses in every attack. The mainstream media's communist sympathies were evident in their one-sided "reporting". I served in Vietnam and saw a reporter ONCE--they showed no interest in the civic-action programs undertaken by the U S military. They wanted stories about violence--"if it bleeds it leads". They wrote their stories and delivered their dispatches from the bars in Saigon.
    The media has NEVER been honest, and always has had a "soft spot" for communism and left-wing causes. Look up Walter Duranty and his lies about the Ukraine holodomor...
    As to your assertion that the internet does not change things, you are mistaken. The mainstream media FEARS the internet, because the internet makes it possible for anyone to be a true "journalist". Anyone can start a blog and get his or her message out without the constraints and negative influence of the mainstream media. The mainstream media no longer has a "lock" in what is disseminated as "news". This is why there s a left-wing push to "regulate" and "license" journalists...
    Regards,

    respectfully disagree with you in your statement that the media was reporting honestly

    If I ever said such a thing, or say such a thing in the future, please gun me down.

    As to your assertion that the internet does not change things,

    Never asserted that! I just asked your opinion how it changed things, and I pretty much agree – the corporate media is deathly afraid of the Internet. The election of Donald Trump hit them like a bolt lightning, and gave them a shock they’ve never felt before, and you can sum it up in four words “they lost the narrative”. The corporate media is in full damage control using “Russian meddling”(invented out of pure cloth) to justify social media(aka the Internet) control/regulation. Also, “fake news” is another blunt instrument to regulate, or at the very least, to discredit other sources. The media’s behavior is quite distinct in the before and after paradigm of Trump’s election.

    One last question? What’s changed in how the media covers today’s wars? I would assume you would see somewhat of a difference the way Iraq was covered, and Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, or even back to the Dan Rather days of covering the war in Serbia, and his bogus refugee crisis(I think it’s just a bunch of people walking over to get some McDonalds Dan!). Talk about agendas.

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    I apologize if I misunderstood and took your statements out of context, BUT your statement that the media was "independent" is incorrect, as any story that did not meet the reporter's or editor's point-of-view would not see the light of day.
    There was much infrastructure building and "good-will" efforts directed toward the indigenous population... roads, schools, water projects, and individual efforts of kindness by American GIs that never got reported. You see, reporters did not want to see those benign kinds of things...they came to see "war" and "get the big story (of how wonderful the communists were) while downplaying the efforts of ordinary American men and women as well as "getting their ticket punched" as a "war correspondent". You see, it was "all about them".
    One only has to look at Ken Burns' recent "documentary" on Vietnam and how he praised the communists over and over while giving short shrift to American and South Vietnamese efforts.
    Burns inadvertently "let it slip" about the re-education of those Vietnamese who were involved with Americans and those who refused to "toe the (communist) line". Despite claims by the communists in most of the documentary that "re-education" would take about six-months, it was admitted that some Vietnamese were "re-educated" for over twenty YEARS.
    I have NEVER had any use for the mainstream media...they ALWAYS had an agenda. TRUTH was never a part of the equation.
    You are absolutely correct in stating that today's "news media" has lost the narrative. It is refreshing to see them "eating their own"
    Best regards,

    P. S. I never trusted dan rather, walter cronkite or any of their ilk

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  106. Biff says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    No and if you love a country than that is your business.

    The US citizens who choose to live in Asia will be male, white, near to middle age, mostly of a middle-class background.

    You don't meet many white women who want to live in Asia. Its only males.

    You don’t meet many white women who want to live in Asia. Its only males.

    In the past most likely, but now I see them much more often.

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    You know America is SHITTY when....

    White women are marrying Asian men to get citizenship in order to GET OUT OF AMERICA.
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  107. t-gordon says:
    @gladimold
    Somehow I think that last paragraph is not going to go down that well.

    Yep, the last three paragraphs left me chuckling. I’m a flyover rube Hoosier who served in Afghanistan. I joined the Army in 2008 because I was bored and needed a change. I’ve encountered far more sadism in the words of online journalists than I did in the military. Still, Linh Dinh is one of my favorite Unz writers. Despite what I interpret as occasional misplaced vitriol, I truly get a kick out of his perspective. Often enough, his observations are spot on in my opinion.

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  108. prusmc says: • Website
    @anarchyst
    You make a good point about the media being controlled by 6 corporations. You are also correct in stating that the media had "free reign" in Vietnam, but, I must respectfully disagree with you in your statement that the media was reporting honestly and did not have an "agenda" in Vietnam. All one has to do is look at the Walter Cronkite description of the Tet offensive being a "victory" for the communists, despite massive communist losses in every attack. The mainstream media's communist sympathies were evident in their one-sided "reporting". I served in Vietnam and saw a reporter ONCE--they showed no interest in the civic-action programs undertaken by the U S military. They wanted stories about violence--"if it bleeds it leads". They wrote their stories and delivered their dispatches from the bars in Saigon.
    The media has NEVER been honest, and always has had a "soft spot" for communism and left-wing causes. Look up Walter Duranty and his lies about the Ukraine holodomor...
    As to your assertion that the internet does not change things, you are mistaken. The mainstream media FEARS the internet, because the internet makes it possible for anyone to be a true "journalist". Anyone can start a blog and get his or her message out without the constraints and negative influence of the mainstream media. The mainstream media no longer has a "lock" in what is disseminated as "news". This is why there s a left-wing push to "regulate" and "license" journalists...
    Regards,

    All so true! The MSN and the permanent government insiders will put the little guys out of action after they cement their control in November. Think John Warner and Richard Murphy for starters.

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  109. @jacques sheete

    ROFL. Welcome home, commie. Ain’t it a relief to finally feel like you’re free to say America, and Americans, suck?
     
    Keep laughing, sucker!

    Your lovely USA was subverted by Commies decades ago (think FDR) and you still remain ignorant of it, but at least you have company; probably 98% of today's (and yesterday's) 'Merkins are obviously as smug and clueless as your comment reveals you to be.

    Your lovely USA was subverted by Commies decades ago (think FDR) and you still remain ignorant of it, but at least you have company; probably 98% of today’s (and yesterday’s) ‘Merkins are obviously as smug and clueless as your comment reveals you to be.

    The commies are gone, rube. This country has been destroyed by an unrelentingly rapacious wealthy class, which, having gained full control of government and media, will never cease pillaging what’s left of America.

    And, face it, there is not a whole lot left.

    In the future, when you wish to pick a fight with me — apparently for the pure joy of it — please rely upon factual representations.

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    The commies are gone, rube.
     
    If you say so, dingleberry. They may be gone, but the programs they worked for are still working.

    Also, if they're gone, then why did you attach that label to the author? Please disinsert your head from your hole.
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  110. @jacques sheete

    Next, Mexican-Americans will be trying to SNEAK ACROSS THE BORDER TO MEXICO.

     

    Trying?

    Ask Jesse Ventura, Fred Reed and many many others.

    Ask Jesse Ventura, Fred Reed and many many others.

    You’ve got a miss-read going there, bucko. Give it a few more posts before you decide I am The Enemy. A lot of it is simply sardonic commentary. However, if you are a believer in the mythos of “Godless Commanizm”, we will be an unhappy couple. Communism has never existed, can never exist, and will never exist. What’s wrong with our world is corrupt, inhuman sons of bitches laying waste to what’s left of human civilization. If you’re stupid enough to call that “communism”, I’ve got a bridge you can bid on.

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    However, if you are a believer in the mythos of “Godless Commanizm”, we will be an unhappy couple. Communism has never existed, can never exist, and will never exist.
     

    The commies are gone, rube.
     
    Listen, fool, you're the one who brought up Commie-nizm.

    Your comment #2, in case you never knew.:

    ROFL. Welcome home, commie.
     
    Which izzit, idiot? ROFL.

    PS: It's common knowledge that Commies delight in initiating personal attacks and many have even denied they were ever Commies, while being Commie chiefs and resorting to smearing their "enemies. Ever hear of Alger Hiss?
    , @jacques sheete

    A lot of it is simply sardonic commentary.
     
    Well get a clue. Sarcasm obviously plays poorly in forums like this.
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  111. @Biff

    You don’t meet many white women who want to live in Asia. Its only males.
     
    In the past most likely, but now I see them much more often.

    You know America is SHITTY when….

    White women are marrying Asian men to get citizenship in order to GET OUT OF AMERICA.

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    White women are marrying Asian men to get citizenship in order to GET OUT OF AMERICA.
     
    I like French women. Long-time weakness. French-Canadian chicks have a lot of the same quality, but wow, are they ever mean!

    So, when will French or French-Canadian women be vacationing here? Seems like never. Hell, I'll shave, bathe, and wear ironed shirts if one will just take me home!
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  112. anarchyst says:
    @Biff

    respectfully disagree with you in your statement that the media was reporting honestly
     
    If I ever said such a thing, or say such a thing in the future, please gun me down.

    As to your assertion that the internet does not change things,
     
    Never asserted that! I just asked your opinion how it changed things, and I pretty much agree - the corporate media is deathly afraid of the Internet. The election of Donald Trump hit them like a bolt lightning, and gave them a shock they’ve never felt before, and you can sum it up in four words “they lost the narrative”. The corporate media is in full damage control using “Russian meddling”(invented out of pure cloth) to justify social media(aka the Internet) control/regulation. Also, “fake news” is another blunt instrument to regulate, or at the very least, to discredit other sources. The media’s behavior is quite distinct in the before and after paradigm of Trump’s election.

    One last question? What’s changed in how the media covers today’s wars? I would assume you would see somewhat of a difference the way Iraq was covered, and Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, or even back to the Dan Rather days of covering the war in Serbia, and his bogus refugee crisis(I think it’s just a bunch of people walking over to get some McDonalds Dan!). Talk about agendas.

    I apologize if I misunderstood and took your statements out of context, BUT your statement that the media was “independent” is incorrect, as any story that did not meet the reporter’s or editor’s point-of-view would not see the light of day.
    There was much infrastructure building and “good-will” efforts directed toward the indigenous population… roads, schools, water projects, and individual efforts of kindness by American GIs that never got reported. You see, reporters did not want to see those benign kinds of things…they came to see “war” and “get the big story (of how wonderful the communists were) while downplaying the efforts of ordinary American men and women as well as “getting their ticket punched” as a “war correspondent”. You see, it was “all about them”.
    One only has to look at Ken Burns’ recent “documentary” on Vietnam and how he praised the communists over and over while giving short shrift to American and South Vietnamese efforts.
    Burns inadvertently “let it slip” about the re-education of those Vietnamese who were involved with Americans and those who refused to “toe the (communist) line”. Despite claims by the communists in most of the documentary that “re-education” would take about six-months, it was admitted that some Vietnamese were “re-educated” for over twenty YEARS.
    I have NEVER had any use for the mainstream media…they ALWAYS had an agenda. TRUTH was never a part of the equation.
    You are absolutely correct in stating that today’s “news media” has lost the narrative. It is refreshing to see them “eating their own”
    Best regards,

    P. S. I never trusted dan rather, walter cronkite or any of their ilk

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    I don't buy that Stalin or Pol Pot or the rest of them actually wanted a Communist utopia...they wanted power and wealth. Had the political mood been capitalist or Buddhist, they would have seized the opportunity.

    So I don't completely buy their love of Communism.
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  113. @anarchyst
    I apologize if I misunderstood and took your statements out of context, BUT your statement that the media was "independent" is incorrect, as any story that did not meet the reporter's or editor's point-of-view would not see the light of day.
    There was much infrastructure building and "good-will" efforts directed toward the indigenous population... roads, schools, water projects, and individual efforts of kindness by American GIs that never got reported. You see, reporters did not want to see those benign kinds of things...they came to see "war" and "get the big story (of how wonderful the communists were) while downplaying the efforts of ordinary American men and women as well as "getting their ticket punched" as a "war correspondent". You see, it was "all about them".
    One only has to look at Ken Burns' recent "documentary" on Vietnam and how he praised the communists over and over while giving short shrift to American and South Vietnamese efforts.
    Burns inadvertently "let it slip" about the re-education of those Vietnamese who were involved with Americans and those who refused to "toe the (communist) line". Despite claims by the communists in most of the documentary that "re-education" would take about six-months, it was admitted that some Vietnamese were "re-educated" for over twenty YEARS.
    I have NEVER had any use for the mainstream media...they ALWAYS had an agenda. TRUTH was never a part of the equation.
    You are absolutely correct in stating that today's "news media" has lost the narrative. It is refreshing to see them "eating their own"
    Best regards,

    P. S. I never trusted dan rather, walter cronkite or any of their ilk

    I don’t buy that Stalin or Pol Pot or the rest of them actually wanted a Communist utopia…they wanted power and wealth. Had the political mood been capitalist or Buddhist, they would have seized the opportunity.

    So I don’t completely buy their love of Communism.

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    I must respectfully disagree. Yes, capitalists crave money and power, but at least there are opportunities available for those who are not "connected". One can go into business, utilizing skills and expertise, and make a comfortable living.
    In the communist world, those at the top have "all of the goodies", the country "dachas", were able to shop at "special stores" with special currency, and obtain items not available to ordinary "comrades".
    You see, with communism, the misery is equal for all, except at the top. Of course, the black market thrives with considerable risk...a bullet to the head if "caught" by the authorities.
    regards
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  114. @Divergent
    There are many people who have been opposed to contrived military adventurism overseas, who realized that these 'wars' were engineered by an international set who more or less controlled all sides, who didn't buy the line of "fighting for our freedom", and who insisted that our military be used on our border to stave off the real invasion.

    Sure, as I said earlier, the average person is a gullible moron and readily parroted whatever lies their favorite newsman on TV told them (if they're even the least bit interested in politics at all, which probably half of the country is not). Some minority of Americans are even enthusiastically jingoistic. To suggest that the situation is much different in other countries (an ignorant, ill-informed and largely disinterested populace), or to suggest that Americans are all 'gung-ho' about bombing other countries... is nonsense.

    Wasn't Trump elected in large part because he said he would bring troops home, because he was against all of these wars, and because he wanted to focus on the real security threat on our border?

    I hope and wish that your points were fully correct, but fear they may not be so. My experience of world peoples, based on working, living, and traveling in several countries, is that jingoism of the worst sort is more prevalent in the USA than in other countries and cultures. It saddens me, because to my mind the US has had so much to offer the world and its people. It is also my observation that some of the best and most evolved human beings are to be found in America (perhaps I should have said were to be found, for there has been a lot of change for the worse in recent decades). I think bad things and bad psychology inevitably flow out of empire. Now if only the USA were to become a true Republic in accordance with the Constitution!

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  115. lulu says:
    @obwandiyag
    Military historians, I mean people who actually know what they are talking about will enlighten you about the Vietnam War. They will tell you that it was impossible to win. Why? Because, in order to win, you had to cross the DMZ and conquer the source of your opposition. But, if they cross the DMZ, then China will get into the act, cf. Korea. Don't tell me China was not a Vietnamese ally. Get to close to their borders and they will retaliate, don't you worry. Only, during the War of American Aggression, China had atomic bombs. Thus, the US could never cross the DMZ. The elite knew it. Why do you think they never did? Poor leadership or some sop? Don't make me laugh. They didn't because they couldn't. Thus, all you whiners should realize you were doomed from the start to fight a losing war. Period. Grow up. Somebody give 'em a parade. That's all they really want.

    Don’t tell this to LINH DINH, the archetype Sinophobia, and his brainwashed megalomania compatriots, who believe it is the “unique” bravery, which only Vietnamese possess, that kicked the Yankees out of Vietnam.

    They proudly declare they are the only country that ass-kicked US, France, China and UK.

    (China generously had provided Vietnam $20 billion aids from 1950-1978, ca $20 per Chinese. Ingratitude is understatement to describe Vietnam.)

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  116. republic says:
    @Thulean Friend
    Vietnam will likely be a developed country by the mid-2030s but it has already made enormous strides. I sometimes amuse myself by looking at Dollar Street, which is dedicated to photographing people all over the world, sorted by income class and then putting those photos out in the public domain.

    You realise quite quickly that you don't need a huge income to get the basics and even many everyday luxuries covered. I wouldn't be surprised if the average Vietnamese was happier than the average American, to the extent American can even be called a country anymore.

    Perhaps Vietnam will become a developed country by 2030. South Korea and Taiwan were poor
    40 years ago, with authoritarian governments, but made the remarkable transition to very open democratic societies. Will Vietnam be the same? Current HDI (human development index) in Vietnam is about the same level as Egypt or Moldova. It will take more than 12 years in Vietnam to reach the same rank as SK or Taiwan.

    The author of this article is a profession blogger. In recent years many bloggers in his country have been arrested and some actually disappeared.
    I would like to have the opinion of LD regarding this subject.

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  117. @Jeff Stryker
    You know America is SHITTY when....

    White women are marrying Asian men to get citizenship in order to GET OUT OF AMERICA.

    White women are marrying Asian men to get citizenship in order to GET OUT OF AMERICA.

    I like French women. Long-time weakness. French-Canadian chicks have a lot of the same quality, but wow, are they ever mean!

    So, when will French or French-Canadian women be vacationing here? Seems like never. Hell, I’ll shave, bathe, and wear ironed shirts if one will just take me home!

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    French-Canadians have a community in Florida. You might meet a few down there in bathing suits.
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  118. @John Jeremiah Smith

    White women are marrying Asian men to get citizenship in order to GET OUT OF AMERICA.
     
    I like French women. Long-time weakness. French-Canadian chicks have a lot of the same quality, but wow, are they ever mean!

    So, when will French or French-Canadian women be vacationing here? Seems like never. Hell, I'll shave, bathe, and wear ironed shirts if one will just take me home!

    French-Canadians have a community in Florida. You might meet a few down there in bathing suits.

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  119. anarchyst says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    I don't buy that Stalin or Pol Pot or the rest of them actually wanted a Communist utopia...they wanted power and wealth. Had the political mood been capitalist or Buddhist, they would have seized the opportunity.

    So I don't completely buy their love of Communism.

    I must respectfully disagree. Yes, capitalists crave money and power, but at least there are opportunities available for those who are not “connected”. One can go into business, utilizing skills and expertise, and make a comfortable living.
    In the communist world, those at the top have “all of the goodies”, the country “dachas”, were able to shop at “special stores” with special currency, and obtain items not available to ordinary “comrades”.
    You see, with communism, the misery is equal for all, except at the top. Of course, the black market thrives with considerable risk…a bullet to the head if “caught” by the authorities.
    regards

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    You made my point for me. Communism and non-capitalist systems attract power-freaks.
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  120. Anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    FIRST BLOOD

    In 1981 it was still the 70's and in those days the Right vs Left conflict was still around. Rambo represents the worst kind of hippy to Sheriff Teasle-a pissed off veteran, long hair, bad attitude. Teasle is the sort of smug jackass with a badge that the Left disliked.

    NB Rambo would have been much better off to live what looked to be a shitty town and say "thank you for the ride officer". He could have made it to the next diner by dinner and skipped the prison sentence.

    There was also the rural-urban divide. Rambo was a veteran (Probably originally middle-class) from Seattle and was only in the rural town to visit a fellow soldier. His appearance (Italian, scruffy, metro) did not endear him to the local cops (Who seem to be running the city like a fiefdom) who go after him talking about deer-hunting season.

    You have to remember that Vietnam and the 60's traumatized the US for 20 years from 1963 until 1983 when Reagan really started to come into his own and the decade of Yuppies and Nationalism began. The seventies was a very downbeat period.

    This is RAMBO II is SO DIFFERENT from the first film. The second is very right-wing and jingoistic. The first is very 70's and downbeat (It was published in 1972).

    The first Rambo film was adapted from the novel, “First Blood.” Though with important differences. Rambo kills the whole police department. And in the end, Rambo’s CO — a captain, not a colonel — puts a bullet in Rambo’s head. The novel is bleak and out to show that what goes around comes around. Trust Stallone to twist the original story into an upbeat and patriotic yarn, with the second and third even more blatantly jingoistic.

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    The original film was not that upbeat or jingoistic, in my opinion. It was a reflection of the late seventies, which dragged on into 1981 when the film was made.

    Part 2 was more jingoistic, but there is nothing patriotic about the first film.

    The first film reflects the malaise of the Watergate era and Carter years. Whereas the second was made in 1985 and the mood of the decade was different after Reagan came into office.

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  121. @anarchyst
    I must respectfully disagree. Yes, capitalists crave money and power, but at least there are opportunities available for those who are not "connected". One can go into business, utilizing skills and expertise, and make a comfortable living.
    In the communist world, those at the top have "all of the goodies", the country "dachas", were able to shop at "special stores" with special currency, and obtain items not available to ordinary "comrades".
    You see, with communism, the misery is equal for all, except at the top. Of course, the black market thrives with considerable risk...a bullet to the head if "caught" by the authorities.
    regards

    You made my point for me. Communism and non-capitalist systems attract power-freaks.

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  122. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Your lovely USA was subverted by Commies decades ago (think FDR) and you still remain ignorant of it, but at least you have company; probably 98% of today’s (and yesterday’s) ‘Merkins are obviously as smug and clueless as your comment reveals you to be.
     
    The commies are gone, rube. This country has been destroyed by an unrelentingly rapacious wealthy class, which, having gained full control of government and media, will never cease pillaging what's left of America.

    And, face it, there is not a whole lot left.

    In the future, when you wish to pick a fight with me -- apparently for the pure joy of it -- please rely upon factual representations.

    The commies are gone, rube.

    If you say so, dingleberry. They may be gone, but the programs they worked for are still working.

    Also, if they’re gone, then why did you attach that label to the author? Please disinsert your head from your hole.

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  123. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Ask Jesse Ventura, Fred Reed and many many others.

     

    You've got a miss-read going there, bucko. Give it a few more posts before you decide I am The Enemy. A lot of it is simply sardonic commentary. However, if you are a believer in the mythos of "Godless Commanizm", we will be an unhappy couple. Communism has never existed, can never exist, and will never exist. What's wrong with our world is corrupt, inhuman sons of bitches laying waste to what's left of human civilization. If you're stupid enough to call that "communism", I've got a bridge you can bid on.

    However, if you are a believer in the mythos of “Godless Commanizm”, we will be an unhappy couple. Communism has never existed, can never exist, and will never exist.

    The commies are gone, rube.

    Listen, fool, you’re the one who brought up Commie-nizm.

    Your comment #2, in case you never knew.:

    ROFL. Welcome home, commie.

    Which izzit, idiot? ROFL.

    PS: It’s common knowledge that Commies delight in initiating personal attacks and many have even denied they were ever Commies, while being Commie chiefs and resorting to smearing their “enemies. Ever hear of Alger Hiss?

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  124. @John Jeremiah Smith

    Ask Jesse Ventura, Fred Reed and many many others.

     

    You've got a miss-read going there, bucko. Give it a few more posts before you decide I am The Enemy. A lot of it is simply sardonic commentary. However, if you are a believer in the mythos of "Godless Commanizm", we will be an unhappy couple. Communism has never existed, can never exist, and will never exist. What's wrong with our world is corrupt, inhuman sons of bitches laying waste to what's left of human civilization. If you're stupid enough to call that "communism", I've got a bridge you can bid on.

    A lot of it is simply sardonic commentary.

    Well get a clue. Sarcasm obviously plays poorly in forums like this.

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  125. Sam J. says:
    @obwandiyag
    Military historians, I mean people who actually know what they are talking about will enlighten you about the Vietnam War. They will tell you that it was impossible to win. Why? Because, in order to win, you had to cross the DMZ and conquer the source of your opposition. But, if they cross the DMZ, then China will get into the act, cf. Korea. Don't tell me China was not a Vietnamese ally. Get to close to their borders and they will retaliate, don't you worry. Only, during the War of American Aggression, China had atomic bombs. Thus, the US could never cross the DMZ. The elite knew it. Why do you think they never did? Poor leadership or some sop? Don't make me laugh. They didn't because they couldn't. Thus, all you whiners should realize you were doomed from the start to fight a losing war. Period. Grow up. Somebody give 'em a parade. That's all they really want.

    Every thing you said was ridiculous and nonsensical. If what you said was true wouldn’t the same situation apply to South Korea? Yet that was different.

    I see stuff written about the Vietnam war and it never fails they don’t talk at all about the whole picture. The Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia. In that aspect it won some and lost some. Vietnam had nothing to do with oil or Colonialism. Any look at a map would show it’s vast strategic location for the Communist. It has one the best ports in Asia. They talk about Tet defeating us. Nothing could be further from the truth. It ended forever the Viet Cong in the South. From then on all the attacks were from the North. The next big attack…

    Jerry Pournelle,”…And in Viet Nam the North sent 150,000 men south with as much armor as the Wehrmacht had in many WW II engagements. That was in 1973, and of that 150,000 fewer than 50,000 men and no armor returned to the North, at a cost of under 1,000 American casualties. Most would count that an outstanding victory…”

    “… (Alas, in 1975 North Viet Nam had another army of over 100,000 and sent it South; the Democratic Congress voted our South Vietnamese 20 cartridges and 2 hand grenades per man, but refused naval and air support; Saigon predictably became Ho Chi Minh city as we pushed helicopters off the decks of out carriers in our frantic evacuation; but that is hardly the fault of the US military)…”

    The South lost when they ran out of ammunition. During the time we were fighting in Vietnam all the other Asian countries with their own Commies attacking them were fighting also. Many of them won. The ones that fell like Cambodia paid a harsh price. By all measurement of what we went to Vietnam for we didn’t lose. It did stop the spread of Communism to all Asia. Rarely in any wars do you get all you want.

    The Democrat party has been saying that the Vets fought a losing war when in actuality the Democrats directly are responsible for the loss of South Vietnam. There are only a few highways leading South and they were packed with tanks and troop transport in ’75. It would have been a complete turkey shoot like the war in Kuwait. We even had battleships at that time that could have pounded them from the coast. If we would have attacked it would have probably caused them such a defeat that they would have never attacked again maybe even the government of the North would have been overthrown by the people for such incompetence. Unfortunately the Nixon was gone and Ford was directly told if he helped the Vietnamese with air power he would be impeached.

    The idea that the Vietnam vets died for nothing is a huge psyops by the Democrats. The South had defeated all the guerillas. All they needed was support to hold off the North and the Democrats sold them out. If the South Vietnamese had not fell it’s very likely that the Cambodian Genocide would have never happened.
    The Democrats had said the war was lost so many times that they had to prove it so by actually losing it.

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    When identity politics loses a war.
    , @Simply Simon
    Sam J: Your post was factual.
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  126. The Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia.

    Credible source, please.

    In fact, US support was key in the Commie military victories in the USSR and China. Maybe it was to stop small countries from having their own “Commie” versions of government. ( I don’t know; the thought just now occurred to me since the US had long been effectively run by “Commies” and their moneyed backers, even though we’re now told (comment # 110) that it was all “mythos” and never existed).

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    "... The Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia.

    Credible source, please..."

    That statement that there's no credible sources that the Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia is so foolish...that I'm stupefied that you could even make it. Look it up yourself. Must be several million words verifying it. How about you provide us the "real reason" we fought in Vietnam.
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  127. @anarchyst
    I beg to differ.
    The "Rambo" movies reinforced the erroneous stereotype of the Vietnam veteran being a "loose cannon" ready to explode at the slightest provocation" and not to be trusted, or even recognized for the sacrifices that most were forced to make. (the draft)
    Us Vietnam veterans came home to an indifferent, ungrateful country, where military service was looked upon as a further impediment to employment opportunities (that were enshrined in American law, and were supposed to provide federal job opportunities earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans. These opportunities never materialized, as most federal government hiring managers were civilians with no military experience, and as such, shut out returning Vietnam veterans.
    The perception that us Vietnam veterans were mentally defective turned off many civilian employment opportunities, as well.
    Despite these erroneous impediments, 99% of returning Vietnam veterans quietly resumed and got on with their lives successfully.
    The so-called "Vietnam war protesters" (erroneously) felt that they held the "moral high ground" showing (fake) concern for the plight of the Vietnamese. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, the only thing these "anti-war protesters" were concerned with was "saving their own skins from the military draft"--nothing more.
    It is interesting to note that, even today, many of these (former) "anti-war protesters" are either claiming to be Vietnam veterans, or expressing (fake) remorse over not responding when called by their government for duty. Some do express a certain amount of guilt (rightly so).
    These so-called "anti-war protesters" were totally silent when word of the "boat people", risking life and limb to escape that "communist paradise" got out. Their guilt may have finally got to them.
    The Vietnam war WAS an invasion by the North Vietnamese, who wanted to exercise control over the (more developed) South. There was no altruism--it was NOT a "civil war". It was all about control.
    Wen the North finally seized control, they came to the conclusion that they could not exercise the same amount of communist control that they exerted in the North.
    For different and varied opinions and experiences on the Vietnam war, please obtain and read "Our War Was Different" by author Al Hemingway.

    These so-called “anti-war protesters” were totally silent when word of the “boat people”, risking life and limb to escape that “communist paradise” got out.

    Jesus wept – that is more tin-eared than a press release by Gush Eminim.

    The ‘boat people’ (many thousands of whom came to Australia) weren’t fleeing a “communist paradise”; they were fleeing a country that had been reduced to a pile of defoliated bomb craters with vast amounts of unexploded ordnance littering the landscape. Their means of producing barely-above-subsistence output had been lain waste by you and your buddies.

    It appears that you have trouble accepting that you played some (small) role in a very specific evil: the wanton and deliberate annihilation of the livelihoods of a largely subsistence-agriculture population, and the indiscriminate killing of upwards of 3 million civilians, based on a set of fictions that make Colin Powell’s UNSC presentation look unimpeachable by comparison. I would guess you weren’t a conscript.

    The primary reason that soldiers returning from Viet Nam did not receive the same hagiography as those returning from WWII, is pretty easy to understand.

    It was the media – specifically, the media’s preparedness to lay out the actual facts of the situation on the ground.

    That is why ever since, the US military and government has been assiduous in ensuring that the media narrative (especially on TV and in major periodicals) is managed. Perception management, propaganda – puh-tay-ter, puh-tah-ter.

    The media had enough idealists at the time, that there was a coherent examination of the rationale for military action, and some (limited) examination of the means by which the war was actually prosecuted.

    Hersh’s My Lai story, and Nick Ut’s photo of Phan Thị Kim Phúc (both in 1972), forced the American public to confront the reality of what was being done to an entire population.

    Bear in mind that it was being done solely because American politicians thought they had the right to veto-by-force, the population’s decision to experiment with its political and economic system. (I’m no advocate for socialism: any nation that permits that economic system to be imposed on them, faces a lower standard of living… but it is not ‘our’ place to prevent or reverse the imposition).

    And let’s not be coy: with all that tonnage of hot death dropped from the sky, and all that defoliant laying waste to fields… the US was not winning, and hadn’t been for some time.

    Can’t come home a loser and expect a parade, unless there has been significant groundwork to control the narrative (as there has been in Iraq and Afghanistan).

    Tet (in ’68) was a loss for the VC, but it made it absolutely clear that the VC and NLF had significant backing from sympathetic locals in the South: to be able to coordinate attacks on 100 towns and cities including Saigon (and as far south as Ca Mau and Bac Lieu, FFS), undetected until the ‘kickoff’, was a logistical feat that absolutely required local cooperation.

    It’s right there in the flashcards that American students use to teach themselves the shallowest possible version of history:

    After the Tet offensive, the mainstream American media began to

    A. appeal to Americans to support the war effort
    B. give less air time to antiwar protesters
    C. give more air time to antiwar protesters
    D. openly criticize the war effort

    Flip the card… survey saysD.

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    Were you there? I doubt it. I have done the research and am not an "armchair historian", unlike you.
    Almost all of Vietnam WAS NOT "bombed into oblivion. In fact, most Vietnamese did not even see the effects of "war".
    You must have swallowed the false narrative of Ken Burns' "schlockumentary" on the Vietnam war.
    You must be a communist sympathizer.
    Go to Westminster or Garden Grove California and talk to the "boat people" Vietnamese expatriates. You might learn something...
    , @anarchyst
    It's apparent that you never heard of the massive communist atrocity at Duc Duc.
    Look it up before you place all of the blame for atrocities on Americans...
    The North Vietnamese and Viet Cong were much more vicious in their abuse and atrocities.
    This does not excuse My Lai, for which American officers' heads should have rolled...
    , @Sam J.
    "… the US was not winning, and hadn’t been for some time...Tet (in ’68) was a loss for the VC, but it made it absolutely clear that the VC and NLF had significant backing from sympathetic locals in the South..."

    Uhhh...so what? What part of "the Viet Cong" being utterly defeated did you not understand. They were not in any way a viable force after Tet. How is that losing?

    The sole reason the US lost in Vietnam was the Democrat party had said over and over and over and over that we couldn't win and when the opportunity came they made it so by refusing to arm or support the South Vietnamese. The South was doing just fine fighting the North UNTIL THEY RAN OUT OF AMMUNITION. They literally ran out of ammunition. Is there any, any doubt that with air power and Naval bombardment we could not have helped them bring the North to a blood soaked halt in 75? No none at all. There's only a few major highways we could have turned them all into death traps but there was NO bombing in 75. The Democrat party told Ford if he used air power they would impeach him and they would have. Ford should have done it anyways and dared them to do so. Made it public.
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  128. anarchyst says:
    @Kratoklastes

    These so-called “anti-war protesters” were totally silent when word of the “boat people”, risking life and limb to escape that “communist paradise” got out.
     
    Jesus wept - that is more tin-eared than a press release by Gush Eminim.

    The 'boat people' (many thousands of whom came to Australia) weren't fleeing a "communist paradise"; they were fleeing a country that had been reduced to a pile of defoliated bomb craters with vast amounts of unexploded ordnance littering the landscape. Their means of producing barely-above-subsistence output had been lain waste by you and your buddies.

    It appears that you have trouble accepting that you played some (small) role in a very specific evil: the wanton and deliberate annihilation of the livelihoods of a largely subsistence-agriculture population, and the indiscriminate killing of upwards of 3 million civilians, based on a set of fictions that make Colin Powell's UNSC presentation look unimpeachable by comparison. I would guess you weren't a conscript.

    The primary reason that soldiers returning from Viet Nam did not receive the same hagiography as those returning from WWII, is pretty easy to understand.

    It was the media - specifically, the media's preparedness to lay out the actual facts of the situation on the ground.

    That is why ever since, the US military and government has been assiduous in ensuring that the media narrative (especially on TV and in major periodicals) is managed. Perception management, propaganda - puh-tay-ter, puh-tah-ter.

    The media had enough idealists at the time, that there was a coherent examination of the rationale for military action, and some (limited) examination of the means by which the war was actually prosecuted.

    Hersh's My Lai story, and Nick Ut's photo of Phan Thị Kim Phúc (both in 1972), forced the American public to confront the reality of what was being done to an entire population.

    Bear in mind that it was being done solely because American politicians thought they had the right to veto-by-force, the population's decision to experiment with its political and economic system. (I'm no advocate for socialism: any nation that permits that economic system to be imposed on them, faces a lower standard of living... but it is not 'our' place to prevent or reverse the imposition).

    And let's not be coy: with all that tonnage of hot death dropped from the sky, and all that defoliant laying waste to fields... the US was not winning, and hadn't been for some time.

    Can't come home a loser and expect a parade, unless there has been significant groundwork to control the narrative (as there has been in Iraq and Afghanistan).

    Tet (in '68) was a loss for the VC, but it made it absolutely clear that the VC and NLF had significant backing from sympathetic locals in the South: to be able to coordinate attacks on 100 towns and cities including Saigon (and as far south as Ca Mau and Bac Lieu, FFS), undetected until the 'kickoff', was a logistical feat that absolutely required local cooperation.

    It's right there in the flashcards that American students use to teach themselves the shallowest possible version of history:

    After the Tet offensive, the mainstream American media began to

    A. appeal to Americans to support the war effort
    B. give less air time to antiwar protesters
    C. give more air time to antiwar protesters
    D. openly criticize the war effort
     
    Flip the card... survey says... D.

    .
    .
    STOP RESISTING.

    Were you there? I doubt it. I have done the research and am not an “armchair historian”, unlike you.
    Almost all of Vietnam WAS NOT “bombed into oblivion. In fact, most Vietnamese did not even see the effects of “war”.
    You must have swallowed the false narrative of Ken Burns’ “schlockumentary” on the Vietnam war.
    You must be a communist sympathizer.
    Go to Westminster or Garden Grove California and talk to the “boat people” Vietnamese expatriates. You might learn something…

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    They were the most deserving of all the refugees to the US. Unfortunately, like the Cubans, the 2nd and 3rd generations have jumped onto the hate whitey and hate the country that welcomed them bandwagon.
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  129. anarchyst says:
    @Kratoklastes

    These so-called “anti-war protesters” were totally silent when word of the “boat people”, risking life and limb to escape that “communist paradise” got out.
     
    Jesus wept - that is more tin-eared than a press release by Gush Eminim.

    The 'boat people' (many thousands of whom came to Australia) weren't fleeing a "communist paradise"; they were fleeing a country that had been reduced to a pile of defoliated bomb craters with vast amounts of unexploded ordnance littering the landscape. Their means of producing barely-above-subsistence output had been lain waste by you and your buddies.

    It appears that you have trouble accepting that you played some (small) role in a very specific evil: the wanton and deliberate annihilation of the livelihoods of a largely subsistence-agriculture population, and the indiscriminate killing of upwards of 3 million civilians, based on a set of fictions that make Colin Powell's UNSC presentation look unimpeachable by comparison. I would guess you weren't a conscript.

    The primary reason that soldiers returning from Viet Nam did not receive the same hagiography as those returning from WWII, is pretty easy to understand.

    It was the media - specifically, the media's preparedness to lay out the actual facts of the situation on the ground.

    That is why ever since, the US military and government has been assiduous in ensuring that the media narrative (especially on TV and in major periodicals) is managed. Perception management, propaganda - puh-tay-ter, puh-tah-ter.

    The media had enough idealists at the time, that there was a coherent examination of the rationale for military action, and some (limited) examination of the means by which the war was actually prosecuted.

    Hersh's My Lai story, and Nick Ut's photo of Phan Thị Kim Phúc (both in 1972), forced the American public to confront the reality of what was being done to an entire population.

    Bear in mind that it was being done solely because American politicians thought they had the right to veto-by-force, the population's decision to experiment with its political and economic system. (I'm no advocate for socialism: any nation that permits that economic system to be imposed on them, faces a lower standard of living... but it is not 'our' place to prevent or reverse the imposition).

    And let's not be coy: with all that tonnage of hot death dropped from the sky, and all that defoliant laying waste to fields... the US was not winning, and hadn't been for some time.

    Can't come home a loser and expect a parade, unless there has been significant groundwork to control the narrative (as there has been in Iraq and Afghanistan).

    Tet (in '68) was a loss for the VC, but it made it absolutely clear that the VC and NLF had significant backing from sympathetic locals in the South: to be able to coordinate attacks on 100 towns and cities including Saigon (and as far south as Ca Mau and Bac Lieu, FFS), undetected until the 'kickoff', was a logistical feat that absolutely required local cooperation.

    It's right there in the flashcards that American students use to teach themselves the shallowest possible version of history:

    After the Tet offensive, the mainstream American media began to

    A. appeal to Americans to support the war effort
    B. give less air time to antiwar protesters
    C. give more air time to antiwar protesters
    D. openly criticize the war effort
     
    Flip the card... survey says... D.

    .
    .
    STOP RESISTING.

    It’s apparent that you never heard of the massive communist atrocity at Duc Duc.
    Look it up before you place all of the blame for atrocities on Americans…
    The North Vietnamese and Viet Cong were much more vicious in their abuse and atrocities.
    This does not excuse My Lai, for which American officers’ heads should have rolled…

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  130. anarchyst says:
    @obwandiyag
    Military historians, I mean people who actually know what they are talking about will enlighten you about the Vietnam War. They will tell you that it was impossible to win. Why? Because, in order to win, you had to cross the DMZ and conquer the source of your opposition. But, if they cross the DMZ, then China will get into the act, cf. Korea. Don't tell me China was not a Vietnamese ally. Get to close to their borders and they will retaliate, don't you worry. Only, during the War of American Aggression, China had atomic bombs. Thus, the US could never cross the DMZ. The elite knew it. Why do you think they never did? Poor leadership or some sop? Don't make me laugh. They didn't because they couldn't. Thus, all you whiners should realize you were doomed from the start to fight a losing war. Period. Grow up. Somebody give 'em a parade. That's all they really want.

    You mean communist sympathizing democRAT military historians who want to whitewash their major role in giving Vietnam away to the communists. They still have guilt over their actions, but still refuse to admit it…
    To their credit, democRATS have removed their disguise and now profess to be communists…

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    Now why would you be arguing about a war that happened 40 years ago, when we have one now that been going on for 17 years and the result will be the same...
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  131. Biff says:
    @Sam J.
    Every thing you said was ridiculous and nonsensical. If what you said was true wouldn't the same situation apply to South Korea? Yet that was different.

    I see stuff written about the Vietnam war and it never fails they don't talk at all about the whole picture. The Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia. In that aspect it won some and lost some. Vietnam had nothing to do with oil or Colonialism. Any look at a map would show it's vast strategic location for the Communist. It has one the best ports in Asia. They talk about Tet defeating us. Nothing could be further from the truth. It ended forever the Viet Cong in the South. From then on all the attacks were from the North. The next big attack...

    Jerry Pournelle,"...And in Viet Nam the North sent 150,000 men south with as much armor as the Wehrmacht had in many WW II engagements. That was in 1973, and of that 150,000 fewer than 50,000 men and no armor returned to the North, at a cost of under 1,000 American casualties. Most would count that an outstanding victory..."

    "... (Alas, in 1975 North Viet Nam had another army of over 100,000 and sent it South; the Democratic Congress voted our South Vietnamese 20 cartridges and 2 hand grenades per man, but refused naval and air support; Saigon predictably became Ho Chi Minh city as we pushed helicopters off the decks of out carriers in our frantic evacuation; but that is hardly the fault of the US military)..."

    The South lost when they ran out of ammunition. During the time we were fighting in Vietnam all the other Asian countries with their own Commies attacking them were fighting also. Many of them won. The ones that fell like Cambodia paid a harsh price. By all measurement of what we went to Vietnam for we didn't lose. It did stop the spread of Communism to all Asia. Rarely in any wars do you get all you want.

    The Democrat party has been saying that the Vets fought a losing war when in actuality the Democrats directly are responsible for the loss of South Vietnam. There are only a few highways leading South and they were packed with tanks and troop transport in '75. It would have been a complete turkey shoot like the war in Kuwait. We even had battleships at that time that could have pounded them from the coast. If we would have attacked it would have probably caused them such a defeat that they would have never attacked again maybe even the government of the North would have been overthrown by the people for such incompetence. Unfortunately the Nixon was gone and Ford was directly told if he helped the Vietnamese with air power he would be impeached.

    The idea that the Vietnam vets died for nothing is a huge psyops by the Democrats. The South had defeated all the guerillas. All they needed was support to hold off the North and the Democrats sold them out. If the South Vietnamese had not fell it's very likely that the Cambodian Genocide would have never happened.
    The Democrats had said the war was lost so many times that they had to prove it so by actually losing it.

    When identity politics loses a war.

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  132. prusmc says: • Website
    @anarchyst
    Were you there? I doubt it. I have done the research and am not an "armchair historian", unlike you.
    Almost all of Vietnam WAS NOT "bombed into oblivion. In fact, most Vietnamese did not even see the effects of "war".
    You must have swallowed the false narrative of Ken Burns' "schlockumentary" on the Vietnam war.
    You must be a communist sympathizer.
    Go to Westminster or Garden Grove California and talk to the "boat people" Vietnamese expatriates. You might learn something...

    They were the most deserving of all the refugees to the US. Unfortunately, like the Cubans, the 2nd and 3rd generations have jumped onto the hate whitey and hate the country that welcomed them bandwagon.

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  133. bluedog says:
    @anarchyst
    You mean communist sympathizing democRAT military historians who want to whitewash their major role in giving Vietnam away to the communists. They still have guilt over their actions, but still refuse to admit it...
    To their credit, democRATS have removed their disguise and now profess to be communists...

    Now why would you be arguing about a war that happened 40 years ago, when we have one now that been going on for 17 years and the result will be the same…

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    • Replies: @Sam J.
    "...war that happened 40 years ago, when we have one now that been going on for 17 years and the result will be the same…:

    Because the Vietnam was was in our strategic interest in the fight against Communism but the wars we are in now are for Jews. They are Jew wars and we should stop them.

    Always remember the Jew media was all against wars that were in our interest but now...well they are all for Jew wars.
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  134. @Anon
    The first Rambo film was adapted from the novel, "First Blood." Though with important differences. Rambo kills the whole police department. And in the end, Rambo's CO -- a captain, not a colonel -- puts a bullet in Rambo's head. The novel is bleak and out to show that what goes around comes around. Trust Stallone to twist the original story into an upbeat and patriotic yarn, with the second and third even more blatantly jingoistic.

    The original film was not that upbeat or jingoistic, in my opinion. It was a reflection of the late seventies, which dragged on into 1981 when the film was made.

    Part 2 was more jingoistic, but there is nothing patriotic about the first film.

    The first film reflects the malaise of the Watergate era and Carter years. Whereas the second was made in 1985 and the mood of the decade was different after Reagan came into office.

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  135. @Blinky The Doormat
    Congrats on getting the *N* word in there Disclaimer. Mighty white of you.

    You’re virtue sniveling, my man.

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  136. Sam J. says:
    @jacques sheete

    The Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia.
     
    Credible source, please.

    In fact, US support was key in the Commie military victories in the USSR and China. Maybe it was to stop small countries from having their own "Commie" versions of government. ( I don't know; the thought just now occurred to me since the US had long been effectively run by "Commies" and their moneyed backers, even though we're now told (comment # 110) that it was all "mythos" and never existed).

    “… The Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia.

    Credible source, please…”

    That statement that there’s no credible sources that the Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia is so foolish…that I’m stupefied that you could even make it. Look it up yourself. Must be several million words verifying it. How about you provide us the “real reason” we fought in Vietnam.

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    The real reason you fought in Vietnam was the same reason why the Proprietors fight idiotic wars now:

    To prop up fraudulent Jewish finance capitalism and the two- tier fake justice system; with the bonanza reaped by the sale of tranches of bonds and the 1000's of billions that the MIC exacts in tribute from their plebes for the endless manufacture and exporting of indiscriminate death to all who aren't in the thrall to Wall St. and the vampires in the CFR, BIS central banking monopoly.


    All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe....

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  137. Sam J. says:
    @Kratoklastes

    These so-called “anti-war protesters” were totally silent when word of the “boat people”, risking life and limb to escape that “communist paradise” got out.
     
    Jesus wept - that is more tin-eared than a press release by Gush Eminim.

    The 'boat people' (many thousands of whom came to Australia) weren't fleeing a "communist paradise"; they were fleeing a country that had been reduced to a pile of defoliated bomb craters with vast amounts of unexploded ordnance littering the landscape. Their means of producing barely-above-subsistence output had been lain waste by you and your buddies.

    It appears that you have trouble accepting that you played some (small) role in a very specific evil: the wanton and deliberate annihilation of the livelihoods of a largely subsistence-agriculture population, and the indiscriminate killing of upwards of 3 million civilians, based on a set of fictions that make Colin Powell's UNSC presentation look unimpeachable by comparison. I would guess you weren't a conscript.

    The primary reason that soldiers returning from Viet Nam did not receive the same hagiography as those returning from WWII, is pretty easy to understand.

    It was the media - specifically, the media's preparedness to lay out the actual facts of the situation on the ground.

    That is why ever since, the US military and government has been assiduous in ensuring that the media narrative (especially on TV and in major periodicals) is managed. Perception management, propaganda - puh-tay-ter, puh-tah-ter.

    The media had enough idealists at the time, that there was a coherent examination of the rationale for military action, and some (limited) examination of the means by which the war was actually prosecuted.

    Hersh's My Lai story, and Nick Ut's photo of Phan Thị Kim Phúc (both in 1972), forced the American public to confront the reality of what was being done to an entire population.

    Bear in mind that it was being done solely because American politicians thought they had the right to veto-by-force, the population's decision to experiment with its political and economic system. (I'm no advocate for socialism: any nation that permits that economic system to be imposed on them, faces a lower standard of living... but it is not 'our' place to prevent or reverse the imposition).

    And let's not be coy: with all that tonnage of hot death dropped from the sky, and all that defoliant laying waste to fields... the US was not winning, and hadn't been for some time.

    Can't come home a loser and expect a parade, unless there has been significant groundwork to control the narrative (as there has been in Iraq and Afghanistan).

    Tet (in '68) was a loss for the VC, but it made it absolutely clear that the VC and NLF had significant backing from sympathetic locals in the South: to be able to coordinate attacks on 100 towns and cities including Saigon (and as far south as Ca Mau and Bac Lieu, FFS), undetected until the 'kickoff', was a logistical feat that absolutely required local cooperation.

    It's right there in the flashcards that American students use to teach themselves the shallowest possible version of history:

    After the Tet offensive, the mainstream American media began to

    A. appeal to Americans to support the war effort
    B. give less air time to antiwar protesters
    C. give more air time to antiwar protesters
    D. openly criticize the war effort
     
    Flip the card... survey says... D.

    .
    .
    STOP RESISTING.

    “… the US was not winning, and hadn’t been for some time…Tet (in ’68) was a loss for the VC, but it made it absolutely clear that the VC and NLF had significant backing from sympathetic locals in the South…”

    Uhhh…so what? What part of “the Viet Cong” being utterly defeated did you not understand. They were not in any way a viable force after Tet. How is that losing?

    The sole reason the US lost in Vietnam was the Democrat party had said over and over and over and over that we couldn’t win and when the opportunity came they made it so by refusing to arm or support the South Vietnamese. The South was doing just fine fighting the North UNTIL THEY RAN OUT OF AMMUNITION. They literally ran out of ammunition. Is there any, any doubt that with air power and Naval bombardment we could not have helped them bring the North to a blood soaked halt in 75? No none at all. There’s only a few major highways we could have turned them all into death traps but there was NO bombing in 75. The Democrat party told Ford if he used air power they would impeach him and they would have. Ford should have done it anyways and dared them to do so. Made it public.

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  138. @Jeff Stryker
    Happy American in Asia

    1) Its actually more dangerous in the average American city than Asia. If you're lost in a US city and the sun goes down, you can find yourself in serious trouble than getting lost in most Asian cities. So long as you mind your manners in Asia, you'll probably be alright.

    2) I've not encountered on "chimpout" over nothing in Asia. I've never seen a Cholo overseas. You'll meet A FEW black Americans and I have witnessed a public freakout at a girly bar by a seemingly well-dressed and average-looking black American in the Philippines.

    3) There are no whiggers, most of whom are a Gen Y phenomenon anyhow.

    4) White women are few and far between in Asia. For all their talk of patriarchy they are loathe to live abroad, though rape is rare in Asia of white women.

    5) You do not meet hicks in general. Most of those folks holiday on the redneck riviera or Florida. They are not inclined to travel overseas. For one thing, they have kids young. For another, they have jobs linked to the community/taxpayer.

    6) About your own country and its populace, you can say what you want. US military personnel are restricted to a base perimeter.

    7) You don't pay taxes under $80,000 a year.

    8) Nobody can find you.

    9) You do not have to give a shit about SJW.

    10) You can get hookers, be a PUA, whatever your pleasure.

    Everything you stated is TRUTH!

    I have been to China ( my wife is Chinese) and Thailand- and can’t wait to return!

    PS … l will be giving Cambodia a shot too.. hear it’s Thailand 15 years ago.

    Man, you nailed it.

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  139. Sam J. says:
    @bluedog
    Now why would you be arguing about a war that happened 40 years ago, when we have one now that been going on for 17 years and the result will be the same...

    “…war that happened 40 years ago, when we have one now that been going on for 17 years and the result will be the same…:

    Because the Vietnam was was in our strategic interest in the fight against Communism but the wars we are in now are for Jews. They are Jew wars and we should stop them.

    Always remember the Jew media was all against wars that were in our interest but now…well they are all for Jew wars.

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    Because the Vietnam was was in our strategic interest in the fight against Communism
     
    How is communism gonna hurt you? Is it going to melt your head? The chance of communism spreading all the way to Washington is nearly zero, so why worry about how a tiny country in SE Asia runs their economy?(which really isn’t communism in the strict sense - in no way did it ever resemble a Soviet bloc)
    You sound like today’s version of neocons trying, to stop the spread of Islam. “It’s gonna melt your head”
    But it really isn’t, because it’s all a lie. “Stopping the spread of communism” was a flat out lie. An excuse to aquire another vessel State much like Guatemala, or Haiti, or Iran pre 79, or today’s Honduras, or yesterday’s Venezuela, or Iraq in the 80’s or Somalia, or the Philippines etc, etc.......
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  140. Biff says:
    @Sam J.
    "...war that happened 40 years ago, when we have one now that been going on for 17 years and the result will be the same…:

    Because the Vietnam was was in our strategic interest in the fight against Communism but the wars we are in now are for Jews. They are Jew wars and we should stop them.

    Always remember the Jew media was all against wars that were in our interest but now...well they are all for Jew wars.

    Because the Vietnam was was in our strategic interest in the fight against Communism

    How is communism gonna hurt you? Is it going to melt your head? The chance of communism spreading all the way to Washington is nearly zero, so why worry about how a tiny country in SE Asia runs their economy?(which really isn’t communism in the strict sense – in no way did it ever resemble a Soviet bloc)
    You sound like today’s version of neocons trying, to stop the spread of Islam. “It’s gonna melt your head”
    But it really isn’t, because it’s all a lie. “Stopping the spread of communism” was a flat out lie. An excuse to aquire another vessel State much like Guatemala, or Haiti, or Iran pre 79, or today’s Honduras, or yesterday’s Venezuela, or Iraq in the 80’s or Somalia, or the Philippines etc, etc…….

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    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    Chinese billionaires own the Philippines and its money goes into Hong Kong banks while Duterte cannot even stop them from pouring crystal meth on the PI after a public appeal. America owns the Philippines?

    As for Latin America, bankrolling the right-wing dictators simply galvanized the Creole power structure that sent more mad Mestizos and Indians across the border. So their "support" was not worth it, particularly when the leaders are usually as crazy as a bunch of outhouse rats ie Noriega etc.

    Iraq? Well that turned out well.

    When was the last time vassal states were anything but a headache and a nightmare.

    The fear was that China would absorb Vietnam because of the war but of course the Chinese and Vietnamese have been fighting for 1000 years and had a war in 1979 after the Fall of Saigon.
    , @Sam J.
    "...How is communism gonna hurt you? Is it going to melt your head?..."

    Hmmm...let me see maybe 100 million killed by the commies. Just because they didn't take over the US doesn't mean they wouldn't have if we had not fought back.

    Jews like Bill Ayers were talking about taking over the country and getting rid of 10% of the population in the US that couldn't be reeducated.

    The commies were attempting to take over the US. Every single thing that McCarthy said has been proven to be true[the broad substance at least]. The press covered this up for a long time to protect the Jews who wanted to have a blood bath in the US like they did in the USSR.

    And we can even see this in the present. Hasn't Antifa [commies and Jew tools] been smashing people in the head with locks and whatever else they can? Yes they have. If they met no resistance how long before they would take over the country and have a large amount of the commenters here in the gulag? Not long.

    Communism sounds great in theory but in practice thugs and psychopaths always take over the upper reaches of power and then the blood bath starts. I'm not defending Capitalism because it has some of the same problems, with the same type people, but Communism in practice seems to be worse.
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  141. @Biff

    Because the Vietnam was was in our strategic interest in the fight against Communism
     
    How is communism gonna hurt you? Is it going to melt your head? The chance of communism spreading all the way to Washington is nearly zero, so why worry about how a tiny country in SE Asia runs their economy?(which really isn’t communism in the strict sense - in no way did it ever resemble a Soviet bloc)
    You sound like today’s version of neocons trying, to stop the spread of Islam. “It’s gonna melt your head”
    But it really isn’t, because it’s all a lie. “Stopping the spread of communism” was a flat out lie. An excuse to aquire another vessel State much like Guatemala, or Haiti, or Iran pre 79, or today’s Honduras, or yesterday’s Venezuela, or Iraq in the 80’s or Somalia, or the Philippines etc, etc.......

    Chinese billionaires own the Philippines and its money goes into Hong Kong banks while Duterte cannot even stop them from pouring crystal meth on the PI after a public appeal. America owns the Philippines?

    As for Latin America, bankrolling the right-wing dictators simply galvanized the Creole power structure that sent more mad Mestizos and Indians across the border. So their “support” was not worth it, particularly when the leaders are usually as crazy as a bunch of outhouse rats ie Noriega etc.

    Iraq? Well that turned out well.

    When was the last time vassal states were anything but a headache and a nightmare.

    The fear was that China would absorb Vietnam because of the war but of course the Chinese and Vietnamese have been fighting for 1000 years and had a war in 1979 after the Fall of Saigon.

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    I was referring to the years 1898 - 1988? or the end of the Marco’s regime - the Philippines was a U.S. vessel state. What’s going on there now I have no idea, and have no plans of going there and finding out.
    , @Biff
    Except the short period it was occupied by Japan during WWII.
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  142. I’m a Trump supporter and I mostly agree with Linh.

    One of the reasons I voted for Trump was that he promised to avoid foreign wars and to shed useless foreign commitments.

    I encountered the same “let’s all do it together!” attitude and habits in the Philippines that Linh describes in Vietnam. Almost every outing in Cebu, from going to the grocery store to heading to the beach called for the entire extended family to pile into the one shared car. It was fun.

    I’m pretty conservative and I’m in favor of dismantling the U.S. empire, although how you do that and over what period of time is a difficult subject.

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  143. Policarpa says:

    Hi Linh,

    Thanks for all your articles on unz. I’m a big fan and appreciate your point of view.

    I moved to Saigon from Canada 8 years ago with no regrets.

    I’d like to buy you a beer sometime. Can you contact me at the email on this reply?

    Thanks,

    Policarpa

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    Hi Policarpa,

    There's no email link.

    Yes, let's meet. I'm in District 6 for another month, then on to Dak Lak. My email, [email protected]


    Linh
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  144. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    Americans deserve what they get. I agree absolutely and totally.

    Thanks for the website link, nice humor and attitude.

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  145. @Sam J.
    Every thing you said was ridiculous and nonsensical. If what you said was true wouldn't the same situation apply to South Korea? Yet that was different.

    I see stuff written about the Vietnam war and it never fails they don't talk at all about the whole picture. The Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia. In that aspect it won some and lost some. Vietnam had nothing to do with oil or Colonialism. Any look at a map would show it's vast strategic location for the Communist. It has one the best ports in Asia. They talk about Tet defeating us. Nothing could be further from the truth. It ended forever the Viet Cong in the South. From then on all the attacks were from the North. The next big attack...

    Jerry Pournelle,"...And in Viet Nam the North sent 150,000 men south with as much armor as the Wehrmacht had in many WW II engagements. That was in 1973, and of that 150,000 fewer than 50,000 men and no armor returned to the North, at a cost of under 1,000 American casualties. Most would count that an outstanding victory..."

    "... (Alas, in 1975 North Viet Nam had another army of over 100,000 and sent it South; the Democratic Congress voted our South Vietnamese 20 cartridges and 2 hand grenades per man, but refused naval and air support; Saigon predictably became Ho Chi Minh city as we pushed helicopters off the decks of out carriers in our frantic evacuation; but that is hardly the fault of the US military)..."

    The South lost when they ran out of ammunition. During the time we were fighting in Vietnam all the other Asian countries with their own Commies attacking them were fighting also. Many of them won. The ones that fell like Cambodia paid a harsh price. By all measurement of what we went to Vietnam for we didn't lose. It did stop the spread of Communism to all Asia. Rarely in any wars do you get all you want.

    The Democrat party has been saying that the Vets fought a losing war when in actuality the Democrats directly are responsible for the loss of South Vietnam. There are only a few highways leading South and they were packed with tanks and troop transport in '75. It would have been a complete turkey shoot like the war in Kuwait. We even had battleships at that time that could have pounded them from the coast. If we would have attacked it would have probably caused them such a defeat that they would have never attacked again maybe even the government of the North would have been overthrown by the people for such incompetence. Unfortunately the Nixon was gone and Ford was directly told if he helped the Vietnamese with air power he would be impeached.

    The idea that the Vietnam vets died for nothing is a huge psyops by the Democrats. The South had defeated all the guerillas. All they needed was support to hold off the North and the Democrats sold them out. If the South Vietnamese had not fell it's very likely that the Cambodian Genocide would have never happened.
    The Democrats had said the war was lost so many times that they had to prove it so by actually losing it.

    Sam J: Your post was factual.

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  146. Sam J. says:
    @Biff

    Because the Vietnam was was in our strategic interest in the fight against Communism
     
    How is communism gonna hurt you? Is it going to melt your head? The chance of communism spreading all the way to Washington is nearly zero, so why worry about how a tiny country in SE Asia runs their economy?(which really isn’t communism in the strict sense - in no way did it ever resemble a Soviet bloc)
    You sound like today’s version of neocons trying, to stop the spread of Islam. “It’s gonna melt your head”
    But it really isn’t, because it’s all a lie. “Stopping the spread of communism” was a flat out lie. An excuse to aquire another vessel State much like Guatemala, or Haiti, or Iran pre 79, or today’s Honduras, or yesterday’s Venezuela, or Iraq in the 80’s or Somalia, or the Philippines etc, etc.......

    “…How is communism gonna hurt you? Is it going to melt your head?…”

    Hmmm…let me see maybe 100 million killed by the commies. Just because they didn’t take over the US doesn’t mean they wouldn’t have if we had not fought back.

    Jews like Bill Ayers were talking about taking over the country and getting rid of 10% of the population in the US that couldn’t be reeducated.

    The commies were attempting to take over the US. Every single thing that McCarthy said has been proven to be true[the broad substance at least]. The press covered this up for a long time to protect the Jews who wanted to have a blood bath in the US like they did in the USSR.

    And we can even see this in the present. Hasn’t Antifa [commies and Jew tools] been smashing people in the head with locks and whatever else they can? Yes they have. If they met no resistance how long before they would take over the country and have a large amount of the commenters here in the gulag? Not long.

    Communism sounds great in theory but in practice thugs and psychopaths always take over the upper reaches of power and then the blood bath starts. I’m not defending Capitalism because it has some of the same problems, with the same type people, but Communism in practice seems to be worse.

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  147. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Policarpa
    Hi Linh,

    Thanks for all your articles on unz. I'm a big fan and appreciate your point of view.

    I moved to Saigon from Canada 8 years ago with no regrets.

    I'd like to buy you a beer sometime. Can you contact me at the email on this reply?

    Thanks,

    Policarpa

    Hi Policarpa,

    There’s no email link.

    Yes, let’s meet. I’m in District 6 for another month, then on to Dak Lak. My email, [email protected]

    Linh

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  148. Biff says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    Chinese billionaires own the Philippines and its money goes into Hong Kong banks while Duterte cannot even stop them from pouring crystal meth on the PI after a public appeal. America owns the Philippines?

    As for Latin America, bankrolling the right-wing dictators simply galvanized the Creole power structure that sent more mad Mestizos and Indians across the border. So their "support" was not worth it, particularly when the leaders are usually as crazy as a bunch of outhouse rats ie Noriega etc.

    Iraq? Well that turned out well.

    When was the last time vassal states were anything but a headache and a nightmare.

    The fear was that China would absorb Vietnam because of the war but of course the Chinese and Vietnamese have been fighting for 1000 years and had a war in 1979 after the Fall of Saigon.

    I was referring to the years 1898 – 1988? or the end of the Marco’s regime – the Philippines was a U.S. vessel state. What’s going on there now I have no idea, and have no plans of going there and finding out.

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    or the end of the Marco’s regime – the Philippines was a U.S. vessel state.
     
    Vassal.
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  149. Biff says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    Chinese billionaires own the Philippines and its money goes into Hong Kong banks while Duterte cannot even stop them from pouring crystal meth on the PI after a public appeal. America owns the Philippines?

    As for Latin America, bankrolling the right-wing dictators simply galvanized the Creole power structure that sent more mad Mestizos and Indians across the border. So their "support" was not worth it, particularly when the leaders are usually as crazy as a bunch of outhouse rats ie Noriega etc.

    Iraq? Well that turned out well.

    When was the last time vassal states were anything but a headache and a nightmare.

    The fear was that China would absorb Vietnam because of the war but of course the Chinese and Vietnamese have been fighting for 1000 years and had a war in 1979 after the Fall of Saigon.

    Except the short period it was occupied by Japan during WWII.

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  150. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @Biff
    I was referring to the years 1898 - 1988? or the end of the Marco’s regime - the Philippines was a U.S. vessel state. What’s going on there now I have no idea, and have no plans of going there and finding out.

    or the end of the Marco’s regime – the Philippines was a U.S. vessel state.

    Vassal.

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  151. Yeah, true.

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  152. @jim jones
    Asians have no sense of personal space, when I worked in China the constant pushing and shoving of the crowds was extremely unpleasant.

    Many are the same in Vancouver BC, and to a lesser extent in LA area. Obnoxious.

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  153. @Jeff Stryker
    It is doubtful that any Jew-who supposedly masterminds these invasions, though I am dubious-believes that Iranians will leap off Dhows like Sinbad swinging scimitars on the shores of New York City if a shit ton more money and young lives are pissed away in a Middle Eastern toilet bowl.

    Only hicks from the sticks can be made to believe that Arabs will parachute into the hinterlands like Red Dawn.

    It is, after all the GOP that implements these invasions. Probably because only people from Podunk towns can be bamboozled into believing such things.

    The supposedly more sophisticated people in the big cities of the USA seem to be herded along towards blind ignorant hatred of Russia quite easily.

    Many of them are sanguine about an unnecessary nondefensive war against Russia. We live among these sick brainwashed fools, and they’re no better in this regard than those rural white kids you like to mock.

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  154. @The Alarmist

    "... have been sacked, looted, burnt or bombed through the centuries, as is typical of all settlements worldwide, except, of course, for those in the USA."
     
    Ignoring, of course, most of the cities and villages of the former CSA and a couple of those of the Union.

    Have the African-“Americans” not sacked our cities? Not much of an exaggeration for Detroit, Camden and Trenton NJ, Baltimore, Gary IN, and many more.

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  155. @Sam J.
    "... The Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia.

    Credible source, please..."

    That statement that there's no credible sources that the Vietnam war was a war to stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia is so foolish...that I'm stupefied that you could even make it. Look it up yourself. Must be several million words verifying it. How about you provide us the "real reason" we fought in Vietnam.

    The real reason you fought in Vietnam was the same reason why the Proprietors fight idiotic wars now:

    To prop up fraudulent Jewish finance capitalism and the two- tier fake justice system; with the bonanza reaped by the sale of tranches of bonds and the 1000′s of billions that the MIC exacts in tribute from their plebes for the endless manufacture and exporting of indiscriminate death to all who aren’t in the thrall to Wall St. and the vampires in the CFR, BIS central banking monopoly.

    All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe….

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    "...The real reason you fought in Vietnam was the same reason why the Proprietors fight idiotic wars now..."

    You give a lot of complicated reasons for the Vietnam war. I say look at a map. An imbecile can see it's strategic importance.

    http://breannaroundtheworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/southeastAsia-vietnam.jpg

    People pretend, somehow, that commies weren't a threat but they had over 30,000 nukes pointed at us at one time and guerilla wars all over the planet. Now it may very well be that the same group of globalist were controlling both sides but to me I'm glad the commie side didn't win the world wide struggle simply because I know how many people were crushed that found themselves in a country on the commie side.
    , @Sam J.
    "...All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe…"

    I don't completely disagree with this but it was a different time and Roosevelt and his commie Jews were running things then. The Jews had a lot of power around the Vietnam war but not nearly so much as they have accumulated recently. Eisenhower and Kennedy slowed them down some.
    , @Anonymous

    The real reason you fought in Vietnam was the same reason why the Proprietors fight idiotic wars now:

    To prop up fraudulent Jewish finance capitalism and the two- tier fake justice system; with the bonanza reaped by the sale of tranches of bonds and the 1000′s of billions that the MIC exacts in tribute from their plebes for the endless manufacture and exporting of indiscriminate death
     
    Oh, fuckin' A!! Preach it, bro! I volunteered instead of waiting for the draft. I escaped with minor injuries, and by 1980, I knew I'd been flim-flammed, and by '88 I knew it was deliberate, a conspiracy, and a Jewish evil of first order.
    , @Sam J.
    "...All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe…."

    From

    https://www.darkmoon.me/2018/web-of-deceit-the-jewish-puppet-masters-behind-world-war-ii/

    "...

    Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands. Their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge of the true state of affairs in Europe.

    It is interesting to observe that in this carefully thought-out campaign no reference at all is made to Soviet Russia. If that country is mentioned, it is referred to in a friendly manner and people are given the impression that Soviet Russia is part of the democratic group of countries.

    Jewry was able not only to establish a dangerous centre in the New World for the dissemination of hatred and enmity, but it also succeeded in dividing the world into two warlike camps. President Roosevelt has been given the power to create huge reserves in armaments for a future war which the Jews are deliberately heading for.”

    — JFC Fuller, The Decisive Battles of the Western World, vol 3, pp 372-374.
    ..."
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  156. Sam J. says:
    @Stonehands
    The real reason you fought in Vietnam was the same reason why the Proprietors fight idiotic wars now:

    To prop up fraudulent Jewish finance capitalism and the two- tier fake justice system; with the bonanza reaped by the sale of tranches of bonds and the 1000's of billions that the MIC exacts in tribute from their plebes for the endless manufacture and exporting of indiscriminate death to all who aren't in the thrall to Wall St. and the vampires in the CFR, BIS central banking monopoly.


    All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe....

    “…The real reason you fought in Vietnam was the same reason why the Proprietors fight idiotic wars now…”

    You give a lot of complicated reasons for the Vietnam war. I say look at a map. An imbecile can see it’s strategic importance.

    People pretend, somehow, that commies weren’t a threat but they had over 30,000 nukes pointed at us at one time and guerilla wars all over the planet. Now it may very well be that the same group of globalist were controlling both sides but to me I’m glad the commie side didn’t win the world wide struggle simply because I know how many people were crushed that found themselves in a country on the commie side.

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  157. Sam J. says:
    @Stonehands
    The real reason you fought in Vietnam was the same reason why the Proprietors fight idiotic wars now:

    To prop up fraudulent Jewish finance capitalism and the two- tier fake justice system; with the bonanza reaped by the sale of tranches of bonds and the 1000's of billions that the MIC exacts in tribute from their plebes for the endless manufacture and exporting of indiscriminate death to all who aren't in the thrall to Wall St. and the vampires in the CFR, BIS central banking monopoly.


    All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe....

    “…All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe…”

    I don’t completely disagree with this but it was a different time and Roosevelt and his commie Jews were running things then. The Jews had a lot of power around the Vietnam war but not nearly so much as they have accumulated recently. Eisenhower and Kennedy slowed them down some.

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    You are whistling past the graveyard.

    The war of Secession [or rather the war for the annihilation of Self- Government] demonstrated conclusively that a Centralized Authority, resting on herd- votes of the vulgar and fanatic is [in practice] military Absolutism. There is no other Power in the land that can effectively hold it in check.

    The current communist regime in Vietnam does not have the efficient mechanisms in place to abuse its citizenry such as your Federal Government.

    With a standing army in the hollow of its hand, it can do exactly as it pleases, i.e.- if it can collect enough tax/tribute to purchase "statesmen" and pay the salaries of its praetorian cohorts.

    Most Americans are ONLY NOW beginning to perceive these things, but they were foreseen, [and also foretold in part] by clear- sighted individuals before the Constitution itself was formally Enthroned.

    Your problems will not be settled by ballot- box stuffing or Editorializing on Unz.

    They will be settled simply- the "good rule" a simple plan....as all social adjustments are settled, again and again...

    Material strength is the basis of all human greatness and material strength must "settle" the tyranny of the greatest number [ Globo-homoism- the PC style American Soviet Tyranny]
    probably with fire and steel.

    All other theories are chimeras- lies- delusions- make- believe and of no account.

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  158. Gary says:

    Linh, if you hold such a low opinion of Americans and America why do
    you reside in the USA? My wife and I have been to over 100 countries,
    many of which were shitholes like Vietnam. I agree with much of your
    criticism of Americans and conditions in America cities and towns.

    1) comparing Philly to Saigon is unfair. Philly is black dominated.
    Fill Saigon with blacks it will be an even worse shithole.

    2) America is an occupied country controlled by anti-white-Gentile
    predatory, genocidal, and parasitic rulers. As one of them said
    “When we’re done with America, it will blow away in the wind.”
    White Gentiles have not ruled since the Fed was created.

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    Linh, if you hold such a low opinion of Americans and America why do
    you reside in the USA? Because he's an American citizen who has every right to criticize his country.
    , @Biff

    My wife and I have been to over 100 countries,
    many of which were shitholes like Vietnam.
     
    Dum Gai
    , @Jeff Stryker
    "Why do you reside"

    Millions of Asian immigrants will decamp the US because Asia is now a thriving middle-class developing country with a lower crime rate than US cities and they can make a good living there. None of the Asians came to the US for freedom of religion or the right to bear arms (Nor did post-Civil War white immigrants, including Trump's family).

    Asians will remain in Australia, with its generally safe and tidy environment under Anglo-Celtic ruling elite (Yes, I know that SJW has hit the country but this is merely an annoyance). The African gangs and Lebanese rapists are a joke compared to the non-stop mayhem of the US blacks and cartel-backed Cholo gangs. Minimum wage is high.

    So in point of fact we may have seen the last of Linh.

    "Blow away in the wind"

    You can be sure they will blow with it to Israel or to Russia or perhaps to New Zealand. They won't hang around Brooklyn when it looks like Brazil.
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  159. @gladimold
    Somehow I think that last paragraph is not going to go down that well.

    The last paragraph sums it up completely; a perfect summation.

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    He is right in the last paragraph but in fairness the Jews snuck up on us and used our good nature against us. All the problems we have now were couched in terms that we could do better by minorities, that we could share wealth to help people get on their feet, that discrimination was bad, etc. All this time there was a concerted effort to control most all aspects of information available to the average man. There's also the fact that this has been done over and over by the Jews. We're not the first to fall for this. People want to feel good about themselves and consider themselves good people. As this was going on the banking and money creation system was taken over by the Jews also. They were able to supercharge everything they were doing by controlling money creation and running a lot of it through their pockets before anyone else could touch it.

    And here we are now. The first chance that people have had to use some alternative source of information they have rejected the Jew media. There's a vast amount of money propping it up but I don't think they can prevail. Every single time a politician said he would serve our interest we voted for him. It's not like we haven't tried within our system to change things. That we have not been immediately successful is not doom on us. It's not over yet. It may very well be that it will actually happen with Trump.

    Linh Dinh is being far too harsh. He's taking a short period of time and equating it to all our history. With all our faults for a good length of time the US has been a reasonably free country with vast wealth creation for a huge amount of people. I'm not saying we are perfect but compared to most countries we've done fairly well for ourselves.
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  160. @Gary
    Linh, if you hold such a low opinion of Americans and America why do
    you reside in the USA? My wife and I have been to over 100 countries,
    many of which were shitholes like Vietnam. I agree with much of your
    criticism of Americans and conditions in America cities and towns.

    1) comparing Philly to Saigon is unfair. Philly is black dominated.
    Fill Saigon with blacks it will be an even worse shithole.

    2) America is an occupied country controlled by anti-white-Gentile
    predatory, genocidal, and parasitic rulers. As one of them said
    "When we're done with America, it will blow away in the wind."
    White Gentiles have not ruled since the Fed was created.

    Linh, if you hold such a low opinion of Americans and America why do
    you reside in the USA? Because he’s an American citizen who has every right to criticize his country.

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  161. Sam J. says:
    @Andre Citroen
    The last paragraph sums it up completely; a perfect summation.

    He is right in the last paragraph but in fairness the Jews snuck up on us and used our good nature against us. All the problems we have now were couched in terms that we could do better by minorities, that we could share wealth to help people get on their feet, that discrimination was bad, etc. All this time there was a concerted effort to control most all aspects of information available to the average man. There’s also the fact that this has been done over and over by the Jews. We’re not the first to fall for this. People want to feel good about themselves and consider themselves good people. As this was going on the banking and money creation system was taken over by the Jews also. They were able to supercharge everything they were doing by controlling money creation and running a lot of it through their pockets before anyone else could touch it.

    And here we are now. The first chance that people have had to use some alternative source of information they have rejected the Jew media. There’s a vast amount of money propping it up but I don’t think they can prevail. Every single time a politician said he would serve our interest we voted for him. It’s not like we haven’t tried within our system to change things. That we have not been immediately successful is not doom on us. It’s not over yet. It may very well be that it will actually happen with Trump.

    Linh Dinh is being far too harsh. He’s taking a short period of time and equating it to all our history. With all our faults for a good length of time the US has been a reasonably free country with vast wealth creation for a huge amount of people. I’m not saying we are perfect but compared to most countries we’ve done fairly well for ourselves.

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    I might add how are the Vietnamese any better. They followed communism which allowed a bunch of thugs to take over and caused deaths in their countries population that far, far, far, outsize any deaths caused by the US government. When Vietnam attacked other countries how did the deaths caused by them, per capita, compare to the US attacking others? It's also had to blame the average US citizen for the wars after 9-11 which were totally Jew wars and of which the information need to make any sort of judgement of the facts was kept form them by a vicious tribe of psychopaths, the Jews.
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  162. Sam J. says:
    @Sam J.
    He is right in the last paragraph but in fairness the Jews snuck up on us and used our good nature against us. All the problems we have now were couched in terms that we could do better by minorities, that we could share wealth to help people get on their feet, that discrimination was bad, etc. All this time there was a concerted effort to control most all aspects of information available to the average man. There's also the fact that this has been done over and over by the Jews. We're not the first to fall for this. People want to feel good about themselves and consider themselves good people. As this was going on the banking and money creation system was taken over by the Jews also. They were able to supercharge everything they were doing by controlling money creation and running a lot of it through their pockets before anyone else could touch it.

    And here we are now. The first chance that people have had to use some alternative source of information they have rejected the Jew media. There's a vast amount of money propping it up but I don't think they can prevail. Every single time a politician said he would serve our interest we voted for him. It's not like we haven't tried within our system to change things. That we have not been immediately successful is not doom on us. It's not over yet. It may very well be that it will actually happen with Trump.

    Linh Dinh is being far too harsh. He's taking a short period of time and equating it to all our history. With all our faults for a good length of time the US has been a reasonably free country with vast wealth creation for a huge amount of people. I'm not saying we are perfect but compared to most countries we've done fairly well for ourselves.

    I might add how are the Vietnamese any better. They followed communism which allowed a bunch of thugs to take over and caused deaths in their countries population that far, far, far, outsize any deaths caused by the US government. When Vietnam attacked other countries how did the deaths caused by them, per capita, compare to the US attacking others? It’s also had to blame the average US citizen for the wars after 9-11 which were totally Jew wars and of which the information need to make any sort of judgement of the facts was kept form them by a vicious tribe of psychopaths, the Jews.

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  163. @Sam J.
    "...All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe…"

    I don't completely disagree with this but it was a different time and Roosevelt and his commie Jews were running things then. The Jews had a lot of power around the Vietnam war but not nearly so much as they have accumulated recently. Eisenhower and Kennedy slowed them down some.

    You are whistling past the graveyard.

    The war of Secession [or rather the war for the annihilation of Self- Government] demonstrated conclusively that a Centralized Authority, resting on herd- votes of the vulgar and fanatic is [in practice] military Absolutism. There is no other Power in the land that can effectively hold it in check.

    The current communist regime in Vietnam does not have the efficient mechanisms in place to abuse its citizenry such as your Federal Government.

    With a standing army in the hollow of its hand, it can do exactly as it pleases, i.e.- if it can collect enough tax/tribute to purchase “statesmen” and pay the salaries of its praetorian cohorts.

    Most Americans are ONLY NOW beginning to perceive these things, but they were foreseen, [and also foretold in part] by clear- sighted individuals before the Constitution itself was formally Enthroned.

    Your problems will not be settled by ballot- box stuffing or Editorializing on Unz.

    They will be settled simply- the “good rule” a simple plan….as all social adjustments are settled, again and again…

    Material strength is the basis of all human greatness and material strength must “settle” the tyranny of the greatest number [ Globo-homoism- the PC style American Soviet Tyranny]
    probably with fire and steel.

    All other theories are chimeras- lies- delusions- make- believe and of no account.

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    "...The current communist regime in Vietnam does not have the efficient mechanisms in place to abuse its citizenry such as your Federal Government..."

    They put people in reeducation camps. They let up on this and have given people more financial freedom because they saw the damage that had been done to other societies. They had no choice. Either that or fall behind.

    As for the rest. So what. That things have been changed to centralize power doesn't mean it has to stay that way. You're a defeatist who sees no way at all to change anything. You have no imagination at all.

    There's a way to re-balance interest without firing a shot, calling in a Dictator or any other such radical proposals. If we were to stop worrying about what the Left thinks of us, they will hate us no matter what so..., we could wrap this whole thing up in our favor in about 6 months and we should. They will use every bit of power they have to suppress us. I'm actually not in favor of us doing the same philosophically to them. But in this case there's unattainable moral goals and there's the practical aspects of attaining and keeping enough power to be free and the two sometimes conflict. We must be practical if the other side is going all out for complete controlling power then we must counter it to save ourselves. How to do this.

    The overarching principle in all these is to balance cities and rural interest. We've had trouble with this before, (Civil War), the urban interest won and have been consolidating power every since.

    1. First we make sure all voters have some qualifications, high school diploma or equivalent, maybe pay a certain amount of property taxes, the actual numbers are not so important. The idea is that the voter have some skin in the game. Be a taxpayer or retired taxpayer who has put into the system instead of just receiving. This was ruled against by the Supreme court but this ruling can be tossed in the trash by a 51% vote in the House and Senate. Federal judges can be told what their jurisdiction is. It's written right into the Constitution.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii

    “…In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make…”

    “…with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make…” The important part. The earlier part declares what powers they have but it ends with control of these functions by Congress. Congress could tell them to butt out of any Homosexual marriage rulings. They could do that with with lots of stuff they keep ramming down our throats. They could be stuck with only deciding water rights cases between States if they push too hard to SJW the Constitution to death.

    2. Federal judges, once again, have ruled that in the States there can only be representatives based on proportional representation of the population. Before they had representation in the Senates of most States based on regions and population based in the House. Just like the Federal government structure. This change gives more power to urban areas. It too can be thrown out.

    3. Make sure all votes are by real registered and documented voters. Voter fraud is at extreme levels in the cities. They have more people voting than there are even voters in some districts. With the other two rules in place we would have the power to just call all their votes illegal and ignore them. We could have an electronic voting system that is foolproof against fraud, (this can be done I'm 100% positive and I even have a simple cheap way to implement). The votes could NOT be changed and each person and organization could 100% check each vote for themselves. The only problem with any of the systems is you must control who gets to vote in the first place and who is authorized to vote. With the two other powers in place this could be assured.
    If most States changed to the older method designed to protect minority rights, rural areas, then it would vastly improve our position. These two changes would insure that we could not be rolled over legislatively. Now some States may be lost already like California but they will lose power anyways because of the complete stupidity and incompetence of their Representatives. Detroit and other minority run cites have the same problems. In California the destruction of the spillway caused by not repairing cracks in it raising the cost from maybe $2 million to repair the cracks to as much as $500 million is illustrative of the way they run things. Not to mention they destroyed a valve in the damn that should have let the water out and they didn't move heaven and Earth to repair it even knowing the record water level coming.

    All it would take is willpower to do this. The Republicans by party line vote have the power to do this right now and so do most States. I would say the majority. If pushed we could force the same on the other States with Constitutional amendments after power is consolidated.
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  164. Sam J. says:
    @Stonehands
    You are whistling past the graveyard.

    The war of Secession [or rather the war for the annihilation of Self- Government] demonstrated conclusively that a Centralized Authority, resting on herd- votes of the vulgar and fanatic is [in practice] military Absolutism. There is no other Power in the land that can effectively hold it in check.

    The current communist regime in Vietnam does not have the efficient mechanisms in place to abuse its citizenry such as your Federal Government.

    With a standing army in the hollow of its hand, it can do exactly as it pleases, i.e.- if it can collect enough tax/tribute to purchase "statesmen" and pay the salaries of its praetorian cohorts.

    Most Americans are ONLY NOW beginning to perceive these things, but they were foreseen, [and also foretold in part] by clear- sighted individuals before the Constitution itself was formally Enthroned.

    Your problems will not be settled by ballot- box stuffing or Editorializing on Unz.

    They will be settled simply- the "good rule" a simple plan....as all social adjustments are settled, again and again...

    Material strength is the basis of all human greatness and material strength must "settle" the tyranny of the greatest number [ Globo-homoism- the PC style American Soviet Tyranny]
    probably with fire and steel.

    All other theories are chimeras- lies- delusions- make- believe and of no account.

    “…The current communist regime in Vietnam does not have the efficient mechanisms in place to abuse its citizenry such as your Federal Government…”

    They put people in reeducation camps. They let up on this and have given people more financial freedom because they saw the damage that had been done to other societies. They had no choice. Either that or fall behind.

    As for the rest. So what. That things have been changed to centralize power doesn’t mean it has to stay that way. You’re a defeatist who sees no way at all to change anything. You have no imagination at all.

    There’s a way to re-balance interest without firing a shot, calling in a Dictator or any other such radical proposals. If we were to stop worrying about what the Left thinks of us, they will hate us no matter what so…, we could wrap this whole thing up in our favor in about 6 months and we should. They will use every bit of power they have to suppress us. I’m actually not in favor of us doing the same philosophically to them. But in this case there’s unattainable moral goals and there’s the practical aspects of attaining and keeping enough power to be free and the two sometimes conflict. We must be practical if the other side is going all out for complete controlling power then we must counter it to save ourselves. How to do this.

    The overarching principle in all these is to balance cities and rural interest. We’ve had trouble with this before, (Civil War), the urban interest won and have been consolidating power every since.

    1. First we make sure all voters have some qualifications, high school diploma or equivalent, maybe pay a certain amount of property taxes, the actual numbers are not so important. The idea is that the voter have some skin in the game. Be a taxpayer or retired taxpayer who has put into the system instead of just receiving. This was ruled against by the Supreme court but this ruling can be tossed in the trash by a 51% vote in the House and Senate. Federal judges can be told what their jurisdiction is. It’s written right into the Constitution.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii

    “…In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make…”

    “…with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make…” The important part. The earlier part declares what powers they have but it ends with control of these functions by Congress. Congress could tell them to butt out of any Homosexual marriage rulings. They could do that with with lots of stuff they keep ramming down our throats. They could be stuck with only deciding water rights cases between States if they push too hard to SJW the Constitution to death.

    2. Federal judges, once again, have ruled that in the States there can only be representatives based on proportional representation of the population. Before they had representation in the Senates of most States based on regions and population based in the House. Just like the Federal government structure. This change gives more power to urban areas. It too can be thrown out.

    3. Make sure all votes are by real registered and documented voters. Voter fraud is at extreme levels in the cities. They have more people voting than there are even voters in some districts. With the other two rules in place we would have the power to just call all their votes illegal and ignore them. We could have an electronic voting system that is foolproof against fraud, (this can be done I’m 100% positive and I even have a simple cheap way to implement). The votes could NOT be changed and each person and organization could 100% check each vote for themselves. The only problem with any of the systems is you must control who gets to vote in the first place and who is authorized to vote. With the two other powers in place this could be assured.
    If most States changed to the older method designed to protect minority rights, rural areas, then it would vastly improve our position. These two changes would insure that we could not be rolled over legislatively. Now some States may be lost already like California but they will lose power anyways because of the complete stupidity and incompetence of their Representatives. Detroit and other minority run cites have the same problems. In California the destruction of the spillway caused by not repairing cracks in it raising the cost from maybe $2 million to repair the cracks to as much as $500 million is illustrative of the way they run things. Not to mention they destroyed a valve in the damn that should have let the water out and they didn’t move heaven and Earth to repair it even knowing the record water level coming.

    All it would take is willpower to do this. The Republicans by party line vote have the power to do this right now and so do most States. I would say the majority. If pushed we could force the same on the other States with Constitutional amendments after power is consolidated.

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  165. Biff says:
    @Gary
    Linh, if you hold such a low opinion of Americans and America why do
    you reside in the USA? My wife and I have been to over 100 countries,
    many of which were shitholes like Vietnam. I agree with much of your
    criticism of Americans and conditions in America cities and towns.

    1) comparing Philly to Saigon is unfair. Philly is black dominated.
    Fill Saigon with blacks it will be an even worse shithole.

    2) America is an occupied country controlled by anti-white-Gentile
    predatory, genocidal, and parasitic rulers. As one of them said
    "When we're done with America, it will blow away in the wind."
    White Gentiles have not ruled since the Fed was created.

    My wife and I have been to over 100 countries,
    many of which were shitholes like Vietnam.

    Dum Gai

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  166. @Gary
    Linh, if you hold such a low opinion of Americans and America why do
    you reside in the USA? My wife and I have been to over 100 countries,
    many of which were shitholes like Vietnam. I agree with much of your
    criticism of Americans and conditions in America cities and towns.

    1) comparing Philly to Saigon is unfair. Philly is black dominated.
    Fill Saigon with blacks it will be an even worse shithole.

    2) America is an occupied country controlled by anti-white-Gentile
    predatory, genocidal, and parasitic rulers. As one of them said
    "When we're done with America, it will blow away in the wind."
    White Gentiles have not ruled since the Fed was created.

    “Why do you reside”

    Millions of Asian immigrants will decamp the US because Asia is now a thriving middle-class developing country with a lower crime rate than US cities and they can make a good living there. None of the Asians came to the US for freedom of religion or the right to bear arms (Nor did post-Civil War white immigrants, including Trump’s family).

    Asians will remain in Australia, with its generally safe and tidy environment under Anglo-Celtic ruling elite (Yes, I know that SJW has hit the country but this is merely an annoyance). The African gangs and Lebanese rapists are a joke compared to the non-stop mayhem of the US blacks and cartel-backed Cholo gangs. Minimum wage is high.

    So in point of fact we may have seen the last of Linh.

    “Blow away in the wind”

    You can be sure they will blow with it to Israel or to Russia or perhaps to New Zealand. They won’t hang around Brooklyn when it looks like Brazil.

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    Millions of Asian immigrants will decamp the US because Asia is now a thriving middle-class developing country with a lower crime rate than US cities and they can make a good living there.
     
    Maybe. We have here a Chinese restaurant that is the local hub of illegal immigrant "processing". They are still doing a thriving business in kitchen-help. They blend into the town environment, find a niche, and move on out and up. When I see that process dying-down, I'll start believing.

    So help me, they are right next-door to a "Mexican Restaurant" Guatemalan illegal operation that is doing a land-rush business, like Oklahoma a hundred years ago. Frankly, I'd keep the Chinese, who seem to be damn decent people, and boxcar-express the Guatemalans. Seems like the Guats are conceived and birthed in a criminal culture like no other. Goddamn "hispanics" are a real threat, be they messican, guat, hondos or elsals. They are why there's a double-stack CZ in my pickup's door pocket.
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  167. Anonymous[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    "Why do you reside"

    Millions of Asian immigrants will decamp the US because Asia is now a thriving middle-class developing country with a lower crime rate than US cities and they can make a good living there. None of the Asians came to the US for freedom of religion or the right to bear arms (Nor did post-Civil War white immigrants, including Trump's family).

    Asians will remain in Australia, with its generally safe and tidy environment under Anglo-Celtic ruling elite (Yes, I know that SJW has hit the country but this is merely an annoyance). The African gangs and Lebanese rapists are a joke compared to the non-stop mayhem of the US blacks and cartel-backed Cholo gangs. Minimum wage is high.

    So in point of fact we may have seen the last of Linh.

    "Blow away in the wind"

    You can be sure they will blow with it to Israel or to Russia or perhaps to New Zealand. They won't hang around Brooklyn when it looks like Brazil.

    Millions of Asian immigrants will decamp the US because Asia is now a thriving middle-class developing country with a lower crime rate than US cities and they can make a good living there.

    Maybe. We have here a Chinese restaurant that is the local hub of illegal immigrant “processing”. They are still doing a thriving business in kitchen-help. They blend into the town environment, find a niche, and move on out and up. When I see that process dying-down, I’ll start believing.

    So help me, they are right next-door to a “Mexican Restaurant” Guatemalan illegal operation that is doing a land-rush business, like Oklahoma a hundred years ago. Frankly, I’d keep the Chinese, who seem to be damn decent people, and boxcar-express the Guatemalans. Seems like the Guats are conceived and birthed in a criminal culture like no other. Goddamn “hispanics” are a real threat, be they messican, guat, hondos or elsals. They are why there’s a double-stack CZ in my pickup’s door pocket.

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  168. Anonymous[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stonehands
    The real reason you fought in Vietnam was the same reason why the Proprietors fight idiotic wars now:

    To prop up fraudulent Jewish finance capitalism and the two- tier fake justice system; with the bonanza reaped by the sale of tranches of bonds and the 1000's of billions that the MIC exacts in tribute from their plebes for the endless manufacture and exporting of indiscriminate death to all who aren't in the thrall to Wall St. and the vampires in the CFR, BIS central banking monopoly.


    All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe....

    The real reason you fought in Vietnam was the same reason why the Proprietors fight idiotic wars now:

    To prop up fraudulent Jewish finance capitalism and the two- tier fake justice system; with the bonanza reaped by the sale of tranches of bonds and the 1000′s of billions that the MIC exacts in tribute from their plebes for the endless manufacture and exporting of indiscriminate death

    Oh, fuckin’ A!! Preach it, bro! I volunteered instead of waiting for the draft. I escaped with minor injuries, and by 1980, I knew I’d been flim-flammed, and by ’88 I knew it was deliberate, a conspiracy, and a Jewish evil of first order.

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  169. Sam J. says:
    @Stonehands
    The real reason you fought in Vietnam was the same reason why the Proprietors fight idiotic wars now:

    To prop up fraudulent Jewish finance capitalism and the two- tier fake justice system; with the bonanza reaped by the sale of tranches of bonds and the 1000's of billions that the MIC exacts in tribute from their plebes for the endless manufacture and exporting of indiscriminate death to all who aren't in the thrall to Wall St. and the vampires in the CFR, BIS central banking monopoly.


    All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe....

    “…All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe….”

    From

    https://www.darkmoon.me/2018/web-of-deceit-the-jewish-puppet-masters-behind-world-war-ii/

    “…

    Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands. Their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge of the true state of affairs in Europe.

    It is interesting to observe that in this carefully thought-out campaign no reference at all is made to Soviet Russia. If that country is mentioned, it is referred to in a friendly manner and people are given the impression that Soviet Russia is part of the democratic group of countries.

    Jewry was able not only to establish a dangerous centre in the New World for the dissemination of hatred and enmity, but it also succeeded in dividing the world into two warlike camps. President Roosevelt has been given the power to create huge reserves in armaments for a future war which the Jews are deliberately heading for.”

    — JFC Fuller, The Decisive Battles of the Western World, vol 3, pp 372-374.
    …”

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    Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands. Their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge...
     
    To this day, all American men WILLINGLY pay big money to have this Stygian sewer pumped into their castle via cable vision. So you can lazily worship the sports idols created for you, and be suffocated by the advertisements for slip and fall lawyers, pharmaceuticals and thinly disguised homosexual propaganda and miscegenation.

    You give the Jews the bullets to shoot you with- but it has always been thus.

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  170. @Sam J.
    "...All this demogogic hehawing about fighting communism goes out the window with a cursory glance at your alliance [and gift of half the world] with Uncle Joe…."

    From

    https://www.darkmoon.me/2018/web-of-deceit-the-jewish-puppet-masters-behind-world-war-ii/

    "...

    Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands. Their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge of the true state of affairs in Europe.

    It is interesting to observe that in this carefully thought-out campaign no reference at all is made to Soviet Russia. If that country is mentioned, it is referred to in a friendly manner and people are given the impression that Soviet Russia is part of the democratic group of countries.

    Jewry was able not only to establish a dangerous centre in the New World for the dissemination of hatred and enmity, but it also succeeded in dividing the world into two warlike camps. President Roosevelt has been given the power to create huge reserves in armaments for a future war which the Jews are deliberately heading for.”

    — JFC Fuller, The Decisive Battles of the Western World, vol 3, pp 372-374.
    ..."

    Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands. Their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge…

    To this day, all American men WILLINGLY pay big money to have this Stygian sewer pumped into their castle via cable vision. So you can lazily worship the sports idols created for you, and be suffocated by the advertisements for slip and fall lawyers, pharmaceuticals and thinly disguised homosexual propaganda and miscegenation.

    You give the Jews the bullets to shoot you with- but it has always been thus.

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    "...To this day, all American men WILLINGLY pay big money to have this Stygian sewer pumped into their castle via cable vision..."

    I don;t do this but I can;t see blaming all the hard working middle class for this. They work hard and when the come home, eat, watch a little tube then sleep. All the entertainment, or most all, is owned by them. I noticed when I worked with younger kids they didn't watch TV much at all. Mostly IM back and forth so they're losing this.
    I don;t know if people understand this or not but there used to be zero public information on the Jews. it was very hard to find. The internet has changed things.
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  171. Sam J. says:
    @Stonehands

    Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands. Their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge...
     
    To this day, all American men WILLINGLY pay big money to have this Stygian sewer pumped into their castle via cable vision. So you can lazily worship the sports idols created for you, and be suffocated by the advertisements for slip and fall lawyers, pharmaceuticals and thinly disguised homosexual propaganda and miscegenation.

    You give the Jews the bullets to shoot you with- but it has always been thus.

    “…To this day, all American men WILLINGLY pay big money to have this Stygian sewer pumped into their castle via cable vision…”

    I don;t do this but I can;t see blaming all the hard working middle class for this. They work hard and when the come home, eat, watch a little tube then sleep. All the entertainment, or most all, is owned by them. I noticed when I worked with younger kids they didn’t watch TV much at all. Mostly IM back and forth so they’re losing this.
    I don;t know if people understand this or not but there used to be zero public information on the Jews. it was very hard to find. The internet has changed things.

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  172. “…looted or sacked, except those in the USA.”

    No so. In history, the Southern citizen is the only American to have had their towns looted, and land occupied by an invading army.

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