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Homeland Terror
Protest Against Netanyahu in Washington DC, 2015
Protest Against Netanyahu in Washington DC, 2015

Justifying the War on Terror, George Bush huffed, “We’re fighting them there, so we don’t have to fight them here.” Broke, gullible or crazed Americans must be sent overseas to combat Al Qaeda, Bin Laden, the Taliban and ISIS. Otherwise, endless terror would devastate the homeland.

Periodically, terror plots must be orchestrated by the FBI to keep domestic fear from flagging, however. Flags at half mast stiffen limp fighting spirit.

Though Washington makes a show of denying it, the War on Terror is understood by the media-drugged as a war against Muslims, Israel’s eternal enemy.

As this open-ended assault on Muslims generated millions of Muslim refugees, Benjamin Netanyahu declared in March of 2016, “A strong Israel prevents the passage of masses of refugees to Europe. The world would be different if we were not here.”

Bibi got the second part right. Israel is the prime reason why there are so many Muslim refugees, and this world would be much more peaceful if your terror state disappeared. As long as Israel exists, there will be Muslims massacred or fleeing in terror from their wrecked homes.

Neoconservatism birthed the War on Terror. Founded by Jews, this movement’s main aim is to conserve Israel, even if they have to wreck the entire Middle East, disfigure Europe and ruin the United States. Jacob Heilbrunn explains in They Knew They Were Right: The Rise of the Neocons:

Neoconservatism was forged into an actual movement by [Irving] Kristol and Norman Podhoretz. Even today, the neoconservative movement is best described as an extended family based largely on the informal social networks patiently forged by these two patriarchs […] Not all of them were Jews—a fact that has been frequently pointed out by the neoconservatives themselves to refute the canard that neoconservatism is a Jewish movement. Fair enough. Yet the movement’s non-Jewish members were largely bound to the group by a shared commitment to the largest, most important Jewish cause: the survival of Israel.

Concocted by two rogue, undemocratic states, this War on Terror could be called off this very second, and the much ballyhooed terror threat would be instantly over. Many American lives would be saved, not just foreign Muslim ones.

Since the US and Israel need the War on Terror to terrorize, rape and degrade vast swaths of this earth, this farce must go on.

Like any growth industry, the US and Israel-backed Muslim Menace must conquer new markets. After skyscrapers, airports, train stations, stadia, government buildings, gay bars, marathons, flying shoes, sky high milk bottles and even airborne underwear, it was time to infiltrate European swimming pools, music festivals, shopping malls and fast food restaurants.

What better way to do this than to import millions of young Muslim men into Europe? Even if their homes haven’t been bombed by the US, Israel and NATO over the years, they might have other reasons to resent or despise the West.

Perfect. On top of all the individual shootings, knifings, gropings and rapes, the more spectacular terror events can be directed by the CIA and Mossad, those unmatched experts at exporting terror.

The Western public already know about mass sexual assaults in Egypt. These “circles of hell” have become increasingly common since 2005, with its most famous victim a 60 Minutes journalist, Lara Logan. Many Westerners also know about Pakistanis raping about 1,400 English girls, over 16 years, in Rotherham, England.

When I taught in Leipzig last year, two of my students, an Indian who had grown up in Qatar and a blonde, told me they were followed by Muslim men. The Indian student could speak Arabic, so she shouted at her stalkers. To shake off her stalker, the blonde went into a store and stayed there. Since these incidents happened after the Cologne mass sexual assault story, these young women were already leery of seeing Muslim men in public.

The architects of the War on Terror generate refugees, then expect Europe to absorb them. Speaking in Hanover on April 25th, 2016, Obama praised Merkel, “What’s happening with respect to her position on refugees here, in Europe, she’s on the right side of history on this […] She is giving a voice to the kinds of principles that bring people together rather than divide them.”

Hungary’s Viktor Orban has a different take, “This invasion is driven, on the one hand, by people smugglers, and on the other by those activists who support everything that weakens the nation-state. This Western mindset and this activist network is perhaps best represented by George Soros.”

Soros, “The benefits brought by migration far outweigh the costs of integrating immigrants. Skilled economic immigrants improve productivity, generate growth, and raise the absorptive capacity of the recipient country.”

Many progressive Jews support massive immigration in the West, but not Israel. They criticize nationalism in the West, but not Israel. Though Jews may not be the Chosen People, Israel is certainly the Exempt Nation.

Soros is proud of his geopolitical flexing. To CNN, the man said, “Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia. And the foundation has been functioning ever since and played an important part in events now.”

The world has become habituated to hearing about Islamic barbarity in Europe. Yesterday, an 84-year-old French priest was forced to kneel, then had his throat slit by two men shouting, “Allahu Akbar!” Three days ago, a 27-year-old Syrian wounded twelve innocent people, three seriously, when he blew himself up in Germany. Sometimes the details surrounding these crimes are bizarre or inexplicable.

The same man, Richard Gutjahr, just happened to film the beginnings of the Nice truck attack (84 people killed, 303 injured) and Munich shooting (nine killed, with four others shot). He’s married to Israeli Einat Wilf, a former member of Knesset. Why did Gutjahr aim his camera at a McDonald’s entrance before anything happened? And how did the shooter appear out of nowhere, literally, for he didn’t walk out of any door? Study the footage.

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Another video of the alleged shooter has him standing on top of a parking garage. Arguing with two Turks on a balcony across the street, Ali David Sonboly accused, “Because of you, I was ganged on for seven years,” and as they called him an asshole and a jerkoff, Sonboly explained, “I was born here. In a Hartz IV [welfare] area. Here in the Turkish section of Hasenbergl. I was in treatment. How is it my fault? I haven’t done anything.”

You are to conclude that Muslims can’t even stand each other, you see, so they’ll kill just about anybody.

A key aim of the War on Terror is to spread terror everywhere, so that the state, that master of terror, can be everywhere.

Linh Dinh is the author of two books of stories, five of poems, and a novel, Love Like Hate. He’s tracking our deteriorating socialscape through his frequently updated photo blog, Postcards from the End of America.

 
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  1. Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won’t the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?

    Alright, time for another 100+ comments thread featuring rampant holocaust denial and Trutherism. Yeeee haw!

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    • Replies: @Wally
    [You have been repeatedly warned about "sockpuppetry." Do you want to be totally banned once and for all?]
    , @Kyle a
    The comments of the author must have struck a nerve. I've heard that there is support groups for your likes. You should pursue one. "Hi. I'm grmbl. And I hate reality". ...... "Hi grmbl"! Where's the coffee?
    , @Anonymous
    Easy, Chosen.
    Here's a dose of Zionist supremacism stuffed delirium.

    By the way, what are you doing browsing a respectable cybermagazine? There'are free writers here, it can be unhealthy for some.
    I prescribe daily views of Red State and PJ Media, where the synonymity of "neo-Nazi" with "whatever doesn't match the wishes of the Zionist pathological wishes" is mantained with some good rigour.

    Plus keeping a safe distance from free minds, and opinionists who haven't given themselves a price.
    , @Anonymous
    Easy, Chosen.
    Here's a dose of Zionist supremacism stuffed delirium.

    By the way, what are you doing browsing a respectable cybermagazine? There'are free writers here, it can be unhealthy for some.
    I prescribe daily views of Red State and PJ Media, where the synonymity of "neo-Nazi" with "whatever doesn't match the wishes of the Zionist pathological wishes" is mantained with some good rigour.

    Plus keeping a safe distance from free minds, and opinionists who haven't given themselves a price.
    , @Art

    Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won’t the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?
     
    You joke - but there is a great stain, a great stench swirling around the Jews.

    It is Palestine - the theft of Palestinian property from its owners – is odious - it is sickening to all good people.

    It is not only the Palestinian people - the process itself has engulfed the whole ME and coerced the Western world. The death and disruption already cause by Israel, exceeds what happened in WWII to the Jews. And of course the evil is not over – it is only at a midpoint.

    The Stain of Palestine is growing by the day on the Jew.
    , @schmenz
    grmbl,

    I believe it would be more helpful, and add to the discussion, if you would point out the areas of disagreement between the author and yourself. That way an interesting discussion would ensue.
    , @Santoculto
    You have a entire text of Dim Linh to refute, point by point

    Do you can do it*

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  2. If all this fighting of Islam is Israels fault, why do most Jews support the Dems in their quest for muslim importation?

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    • Replies: @boogerbently
    "Many progressive Jews support massive immigration in the West, but not Israel. They criticize nationalism in the West, but not Israel. Though Jews may not be the Chosen People, Israel is certainly the Exempt Nation."

    They're against Trumps "Wall", yet theirs is very successful.
    , @Anonymous
    Is that actually a question?
    It's the policy resumed as "Fight them there, invite them here."

    Zionism goals in the Middle East and USA-EU don't have to imply an unique handling of Muslims.
    In the West they are needed to accelerate the demise of the culture, and ethnicity, some Zionists hate obsessively.

    This said, the West's chief problem isn't Zionism or Zionists, but the abdication of the old leading class from their duty towards the populations.
    , @AndrewR
    Jews want to clear out the middle east for Israeli Lebensraum and destroy Western civ. Exporting Muslims kills two birds with one stone.
  3. @boogerbently
    If all this fighting of Islam is Israels fault, why do most Jews support the Dems in their quest for muslim importation?

    “Many progressive Jews support massive immigration in the West, but not Israel. They criticize nationalism in the West, but not Israel. Though Jews may not be the Chosen People, Israel is certainly the Exempt Nation.”

    They’re against Trumps “Wall”, yet theirs is very successful.

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  4. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    “Though Washington makes a show of denying it, the War on Terror is understood by the media-drugged as a war against Muslims, Israel’s eternal enemy.”

    Actually, it is more a war of secular Arabs or modern Muslims.

    Jews and Israel are okay with medievalist Muslims like Saudis who play dog to US or with Muslim barbarians like ISIS and Mujahadeen.
    They fear secular Arabs who can build cities and use technology. They fear modern Muslims like Iranians who can do engineering and build nuclear plants.

    Jews will tolerate secular Arabs IF they are puppets of US, like military-ruled Egypt that lives on the American dole.
    But any independent secular Arab nation or modern Muslim nation is targeted for destruction as possible challenge to Israel and Zionism.

    Jews prefer to use Jihadis against secular Arabs or Modern Muslims(like Soviet backed secular regime in Kabul during Cold War), but there is sometimes blowback, like in 9/11.
    But then, Jews and Bush II used that as pretext to attack whom? Secular Hussein of Iraq who was also at war with Muslim Jihadis.

    And look at Obama as puppet of Jews. He went after secular Libya and secular Syria.
    He made semi-deal with Iran only to divide Iran from Russia and to flood the market with Iranian oil to depress Russian oil prices.

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    • Replies: @Greasy William

    They fear secular Arabs who can build cities and use technology. They fear modern Muslims like Iranians who can do engineering and build nuclear plants.
     
    There are no such Arab or Muslim states and there never have been nor will there be. Iran is a backwards shit hole, as was Syria even before the war. Nasser's Egypt was as secular as could be and had German scientists and Soviet money pumping it up and it still sucked balls. Saddam's Iraq managed to lose a war against 13 year old Iranian boys with pitch forks.

    As for Israel being responsible for the problems in the Middle East, it is really getting tiring for me to have to keep explaining this, but here it is again:

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    As for the accusation that we have gravely harmed the peoples of the Arab/Islamic world: Damn right we have. Go ask the 10s of thousands of children who were burned alive in Dresden what happens to a nation that makes war on G-d's Chosen People.

    You attack us, you die. Your children die. There will be no mercy. It has always been that way and always will be. But I guess you goyim are slow learners, so we just keep teaching you the same lessons over and over again.
  5. Bibi got the second part right. Israel is the prime reason why there are so many Muslim refugees, and this world would be much more peaceful if your terror state disappeared. As long as Israel exists, there will be Muslims massacred or fleeing in terror from their wrecked homes.

    Ridiculous, and I’m not a fan of Israel. Most “refugees” are not, and are from places far away from Israel.

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    • Replies: @gruff
    True but the catalyst has been Syria, the destabilization of which is in Israel's interest. Had Syria not been bled white the floods last year wouldn't have happened.
  6. Even if Zionism, the Neocons and the State of Israel had never existed, there would still be the overwhelming problem caused by Muslim wars, terrorism and violence. Islam is the Religion of Violence and has been from its inception. Jihad has waxed and waned, independently of events outwith Islamic countries, but it has always been present in one form or the other.
    Once Europeans had confidence in their beliefs and culture to deal with this in a forceful manner. Los Reyes Cattolicos conquered Granada and the Moors were expelled from Spain shortly thereafter. Catherine the Great sorted out the Crimean Tartars and stopped their slave trading. The list of such actions is long.
    Now very many Europeans and other Westerners have lost their confidence in their beliefs and culture. Their politicians are for the most part tools of a supranational elite. In this parlous state, they are ill-equipped to deal with the upsurge of Muslim wars and immigration.
    Action must be multi-facetted. Certainly we must vote for people who repudiate and oppose the Neocons and Zionism. But more importantly, they must prevent any further non-white and especially Muslim Immigration. Forceful action must be taken to expel as many Muslims as possible. Profession of Islamic terrorism or Jihad will be a crime and those who profess it will lose their citizenship and be expelled.
    The Zionists and Neocons are mere jackals on the body politic. Removing them from political influence will be of no avail unless we deal with the root causes.

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    • Replies: @dcite
    Some people really seem to want war and more war, especially when it is profitable to thm. That has always existed and some seem to actually desire that it always be that way.
    No, Islam was NOT a problem to the United States until the United States and some of its "allies" (I use the word facetiously) made it one. The first Iranian social worker, who was educated in the U.S. during WWII, wrote that she admired many things about us, such as our unity that did not depend on family ties but was across all regions and peoples; but she was shocked at our tendency to waste, which she first saw when they threw enough fish off the ship she was on, to feed several villages for days. She said nobody loved the U.S. more than Iran in those days before the Mossadegh overthrow (CIA, led by Kermit Roosevelt, as I recall). To her it was analgous to wasting good will for selfish profit that was bad for all in the long run.
  7. My Dear Mr. Dinh:
    ” Yet the movement’s non-Jewish members were largely bound to the group by a shared commitment to the largest, most important Jewish cause: the survival of Israel.”
    That is incorrect. The most important cause to the neo-cons is the reversal of the results of
    the 1924/25 decision in The USSR that Stalin would be the leader and that the Trotskyites would be eliminated/exiled. Since that time, the grandfathers and fathers of the current crop of neo-cons have fought the result. This is why Vicky Nuland and her apparatchiks have tried soooooooo very very hard to get a serious war started in Ukraine. Her current failures will be redeemed if HRC assumes the presidency.
    Your second error is to believe that the Semitic cousins are actually fighting each other.
    According to accepted history, the Islamic Arabs and the Israelites are cousins. Same root father different mothers. Me against my brother; my brother and I against our cousins; me my brother and my cousins against the world. As it has been so shall it always be.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    You make an extremely important and valid point, but the actual emergence of Trotskyists or -ites (never having been either, I have forgotten the precise theological division on that point) as neo-cons comes after 1945, Burnham, whose Managerial Revolution, if I have the title right (I have read it), influenced Orwell's 1984, seems to have been the first.

    Floodgates opened from there.

    Before that, the Trots confined themselves to sabotage in the USSR, attacking the Comintern, and splintering themseles umpteen times. Look up 'Fourth International', skip the Wikipedia link, view the many groups with so few members and such stupid ideas. They feed into, and are part of, much of the idiocy of today.

    Readers of the remainder of my post are likely to disagree, but despite Stalin's many faillngs and cruel policiesl , he was riding the tiger of the ancestors of the neocons, and did the best job he was able to in the situation, in the end, wanted to depose them, they struck back, Stalin was dead, Jews (probably backed by the CIA) gradually rose again in the party, idiot Gorbachev allowed it, soon after, they raped the economy.

    Outright theft unde Yeltsin.

    The thieves were all dual-nationals or a combo, US, Israeli, USSR.

    ... and coordinated from Israel and the US.
  8. @grmbl
    Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won't the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?

    Alright, time for another 100+ comments thread featuring rampant holocaust denial and Trutherism. Yeeee haw!

    [You have been repeatedly warned about "sockpuppetry." Do you want to be totally banned once and for all?]

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    • Replies: @Delinquent Snail
    Kind of off topic. What was the offense? Multiple handles? Why is that frowned upon when you can post as anonomous?

    @marcus how would you recommend cooking the liver? Bake it, bbq it, or pan fry it? Serious question. Ive been wanting to try liver for a few years now.......
  9. Muslims are at war with non Muslims everywhere. Hindus, Jews, Christians even other Muslims. Its a barbaric, atavistic faith that cannot co-exist with others.

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    • Replies: @utu
    "atavistic faith that cannot co-exist with others" - They seem to be doing OK for the last 1400 years as minorities as well as a majority that was quite tolerant to other minorities like Jews and Christians. Problems started after WWII when muslim countries became the playground for USA and Soviet Union and when Israel was created.
  10. I think the main problem is still excess compassion on the part of the west.

    Think about it, if the west is at war with Islam, then why does it take its refugees? Who invades an enemy only to encourage them to colonize you? This bizarre contradiction can only be explained by a worldview that is grounded in diseased, effeminate altruism, and not much else.

    They must have thought that they were being moral and loving by playing world police/fighting those mean dictators, then taking the refugees they created into their homes. Consequences and whatnot aren’t important, because LOVE! It’s like the west has the cultural mindset of a 16 year old girl.

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    • Replies: @Ivan
    Excellent comment!
    , @Jacques Sheete

    I think the main problem is still excess compassion on the part of the west.

    ... This bizarre contradiction can only be explained by a worldview that is grounded in diseased, effeminate altruism, and not much else.
     
    Compassion? Altruism? What the flip are you smokin?

    That attitude is so pre-last century...but I suppose one could mistake commercial supremacy imposed at the point of bayonets and bombs for compassion and altruism.

    "Shall the American people continue their resistless march toward the commercial supremacy of the world?"


    ALBERT J. BEVERIDGE, “MARCH OF THE FLAG” (16 September 1898)

    http://voicesofdemocracy.umd.edu/beveridge-march-of-the-flag-speech-text/
  11. @Marcus

    Bibi got the second part right. Israel is the prime reason why there are so many Muslim refugees, and this world would be much more peaceful if your terror state disappeared. As long as Israel exists, there will be Muslims massacred or fleeing in terror from their wrecked homes.
     
    Ridiculous, and I'm not a fan of Israel. Most "refugees" are not, and are from places far away from Israel.

    True but the catalyst has been Syria, the destabilization of which is in Israel’s interest. Had Syria not been bled white the floods last year wouldn’t have happened.

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    I don't see evidence of Israel being a big supporter of the rebels, that's been Turkey, the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc.
  12. @Jason Liu
    I think the main problem is still excess compassion on the part of the west.

    Think about it, if the west is at war with Islam, then why does it take its refugees? Who invades an enemy only to encourage them to colonize you? This bizarre contradiction can only be explained by a worldview that is grounded in diseased, effeminate altruism, and not much else.

    They must have thought that they were being moral and loving by playing world police/fighting those mean dictators, then taking the refugees they created into their homes. Consequences and whatnot aren't important, because LOVE! It's like the west has the cultural mindset of a 16 year old girl.

    Excellent comment!

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  13. @grmbl
    Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won't the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?

    Alright, time for another 100+ comments thread featuring rampant holocaust denial and Trutherism. Yeeee haw!

    The comments of the author must have struck a nerve. I’ve heard that there is support groups for your likes. You should pursue one. “Hi. I’m grmbl. And I hate reality”. …… “Hi grmbl”! Where’s the coffee?

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  14. @gruff
    True but the catalyst has been Syria, the destabilization of which is in Israel's interest. Had Syria not been bled white the floods last year wouldn't have happened.

    I don’t see evidence of Israel being a big supporter of the rebels, that’s been Turkey, the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc.

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    • Replies: @gruff
    True, though there have been reports of IDF providing medical care to Syrian rebels.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syrian-rebels-keeping-druze-safe-in-exchange-for-israeli-aid/

    But my larger point was that the US has likely supported the anti-Assad forces at least partly to benefit Israel. Israel's "Clean Break" policy paper lists it as a goal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
    , @Tabasco Jack
    Israel treats the wounded terrorists and then lets them go after they have recovered. Our friends to the end.
  15. @Marcus
    I don't see evidence of Israel being a big supporter of the rebels, that's been Turkey, the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc.

    True, though there have been reports of IDF providing medical care to Syrian rebels.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syrian-rebels-keeping-druze-safe-in-exchange-for-israeli-aid/

    But my larger point was that the US has likely supported the anti-Assad forces at least partly to benefit Israel. Israel’s “Clean Break” policy paper lists it as a goal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    Yeah, there's a constellation of geopolitical interests that's keeping the rebels in the fight, but we'd be wrong to overlook the fact that the revolt began out of genuine outrage against the repressive and minority-dominated government.
  16. Since Iraq I is there any identifiable favorable result from the U.S military actions? Or is it time to quit digging the hole deeper, come home and let the various peoples deal with their problems in as best they can. It’s the only possibility for some sort of stasis.

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  17. @gruff
    True, though there have been reports of IDF providing medical care to Syrian rebels.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syrian-rebels-keeping-druze-safe-in-exchange-for-israeli-aid/

    But my larger point was that the US has likely supported the anti-Assad forces at least partly to benefit Israel. Israel's "Clean Break" policy paper lists it as a goal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

    Yeah, there’s a constellation of geopolitical interests that’s keeping the rebels in the fight, but we’d be wrong to overlook the fact that the revolt began out of genuine outrage against the repressive and minority-dominated government.

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    • Replies: @5371
    Unlike some other mighty minorities I could mention, at least the Alawites respected the religious beliefs of the majority.
  18. @Marcus
    Yeah, there's a constellation of geopolitical interests that's keeping the rebels in the fight, but we'd be wrong to overlook the fact that the revolt began out of genuine outrage against the repressive and minority-dominated government.

    Unlike some other mighty minorities I could mention, at least the Alawites respected the religious beliefs of the majority.

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    I'm sure his family (just to name one of thousands) found comfort in that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Qashoush
  19. @5371
    Unlike some other mighty minorities I could mention, at least the Alawites respected the religious beliefs of the majority.

    I’m sure his family (just to name one of thousands) found comfort in that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Qashoush

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    • Replies: @5371
    I don't care whether a bunch of liver-munchers found comfort in that or in anything else.
  20. @Marcus
    I'm sure his family (just to name one of thousands) found comfort in that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Qashoush

    I don’t care whether a bunch of liver-munchers found comfort in that or in anything else.

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    • Replies: @Marcus
    Hey, liver is delicious, especially baked with onions.
  21. @Jason Liu
    I think the main problem is still excess compassion on the part of the west.

    Think about it, if the west is at war with Islam, then why does it take its refugees? Who invades an enemy only to encourage them to colonize you? This bizarre contradiction can only be explained by a worldview that is grounded in diseased, effeminate altruism, and not much else.

    They must have thought that they were being moral and loving by playing world police/fighting those mean dictators, then taking the refugees they created into their homes. Consequences and whatnot aren't important, because LOVE! It's like the west has the cultural mindset of a 16 year old girl.

    I think the main problem is still excess compassion on the part of the west.

    … This bizarre contradiction can only be explained by a worldview that is grounded in diseased, effeminate altruism, and not much else.

    Compassion? Altruism? What the flip are you smokin?

    That attitude is so pre-last century…but I suppose one could mistake commercial supremacy imposed at the point of bayonets and bombs for compassion and altruism.

    “Shall the American people continue their resistless march toward the commercial supremacy of the world?”

    ALBERT J. BEVERIDGE, “MARCH OF THE FLAG” (16 September 1898)

    http://voicesofdemocracy.umd.edu/beveridge-march-of-the-flag-speech-text/

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  22. @5371
    I don't care whether a bunch of liver-munchers found comfort in that or in anything else.

    Hey, liver is delicious, especially baked with onions.

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    • Replies: @woodNfish
    No, it needs to be fried and served with mashed potatoes and gravy over everything. And it should be calf's liver, no beef liver.
  23. @Marcus
    Hey, liver is delicious, especially baked with onions.

    No, it needs to be fried and served with mashed potatoes and gravy over everything. And it should be calf’s liver, no beef liver.

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  24. @Wally
    [You have been repeatedly warned about "sockpuppetry." Do you want to be totally banned once and for all?]

    Kind of off topic. What was the offense? Multiple handles? Why is that frowned upon when you can post as anonomous?

    @marcus how would you recommend cooking the liver? Bake it, bbq it, or pan fry it? Serious question. Ive been wanting to try liver for a few years now…….

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    @grmbl
    Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won't the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?

    Alright, time for another 100+ comments thread featuring rampant holocaust denial and Trutherism. Yeeee haw!

    Easy, Chosen.
    Here’s a dose of Zionist supremacism stuffed delirium.

    By the way, what are you doing browsing a respectable cybermagazine? There’are free writers here, it can be unhealthy for some.
    I prescribe daily views of Red State and PJ Media, where the synonymity of “neo-Nazi” with “whatever doesn’t match the wishes of the Zionist pathological wishes” is mantained with some good rigour.

    Plus keeping a safe distance from free minds, and opinionists who haven’t given themselves a price.

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    @grmbl
    Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won't the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?

    Alright, time for another 100+ comments thread featuring rampant holocaust denial and Trutherism. Yeeee haw!

    Easy, Chosen.
    Here’s a dose of Zionist supremacism stuffed delirium.

    By the way, what are you doing browsing a respectable cybermagazine? There’are free writers here, it can be unhealthy for some.
    I prescribe daily views of Red State and PJ Media, where the synonymity of “neo-Nazi” with “whatever doesn’t match the wishes of the Zionist pathological wishes” is mantained with some good rigour.

    Plus keeping a safe distance from free minds, and opinionists who haven’t given themselves a price.

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  27. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @boogerbently
    If all this fighting of Islam is Israels fault, why do most Jews support the Dems in their quest for muslim importation?

    Is that actually a question?
    It’s the policy resumed as “Fight them there, invite them here.”

    Zionism goals in the Middle East and USA-EU don’t have to imply an unique handling of Muslims.
    In the West they are needed to accelerate the demise of the culture, and ethnicity, some Zionists hate obsessively.

    This said, the West’s chief problem isn’t Zionism or Zionists, but the abdication of the old leading class from their duty towards the populations.

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  28. Is LINH DINH finally turning into another ‘self-hating Jew’?

    The book, “Islamophobia & Israel”, features investigative articles by two American Jewish writers, Donna Nevel and Elly Bulkin. The articles show in detail how the pro-Israel Jewish lobby groups fuel and fund hatred toward Muslims and Islam for the benefit of the Zionist entity.

    Both writers have been active against Western bigotry toward Islam and Muslims especially since September 11, 2001, which like the current Islamist ISIS terrorists, was work of US-Israel state terrorism. Both are conveners of a new project, the “Jewish Voice for Peace Network Against Islamophobia”.

    Donna Nevel said at Cornell Campus: “The reality is that in post-9/11 era, anti-Arab racism and anti-Muslim bigotry have become an entrenched feature of the landscape in New York city and nationwide.”

    Nevel and Bulkin exposed Abraham Foxman’s so-called “human rights” organization, Anti-Defamation League, as America’s leading Jewish voice, which creates and supports anti-Muslim feelings in the US and Europe.

    https://rehmat1.com/2014/12/13/islamophobia-for-israel/

    For decades the organized Jewry has accused Muslims of its past anti-Christian rhetoric, such as, anti-Semitism, Holocaust-denial, pro-Blood Libel, etc. to demonize Islam and Muslims in order to manipulate Western conscience in favor of the Jewish occupation of once Muslim-majority Palestine.

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    hi ramhat !!!!
    no one needs jews to prod them to dislike muslims. thats one of the few jobs muslims can do on their own , like female genital mutilation , jihad and bacha bazi .

    here is news today of muslim on buddhist violence in sumatra indonesia.
    a mob of hundreds of muslims burn down and loot several buddhist temples because a buddhist woman dared ask the imam to lower the microphone volume.

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/07/30/vihara-pagodas-burned-down-plundered-in-n-sumatra.html
  29. @Priss Factor
    "Though Washington makes a show of denying it, the War on Terror is understood by the media-drugged as a war against Muslims, Israel’s eternal enemy."

    Actually, it is more a war of secular Arabs or modern Muslims.

    Jews and Israel are okay with medievalist Muslims like Saudis who play dog to US or with Muslim barbarians like ISIS and Mujahadeen.
    They fear secular Arabs who can build cities and use technology. They fear modern Muslims like Iranians who can do engineering and build nuclear plants.

    Jews will tolerate secular Arabs IF they are puppets of US, like military-ruled Egypt that lives on the American dole.
    But any independent secular Arab nation or modern Muslim nation is targeted for destruction as possible challenge to Israel and Zionism.

    Jews prefer to use Jihadis against secular Arabs or Modern Muslims(like Soviet backed secular regime in Kabul during Cold War), but there is sometimes blowback, like in 9/11.
    But then, Jews and Bush II used that as pretext to attack whom? Secular Hussein of Iraq who was also at war with Muslim Jihadis.

    And look at Obama as puppet of Jews. He went after secular Libya and secular Syria.
    He made semi-deal with Iran only to divide Iran from Russia and to flood the market with Iranian oil to depress Russian oil prices.

    They fear secular Arabs who can build cities and use technology. They fear modern Muslims like Iranians who can do engineering and build nuclear plants.

    There are no such Arab or Muslim states and there never have been nor will there be. Iran is a backwards shit hole, as was Syria even before the war. Nasser’s Egypt was as secular as could be and had German scientists and Soviet money pumping it up and it still sucked balls. Saddam’s Iraq managed to lose a war against 13 year old Iranian boys with pitch forks.

    As for Israel being responsible for the problems in the Middle East, it is really getting tiring for me to have to keep explaining this, but here it is again:

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    As for the accusation that we have gravely harmed the peoples of the Arab/Islamic world: Damn right we have. Go ask the 10s of thousands of children who were burned alive in Dresden what happens to a nation that makes war on G-d’s Chosen People.

    You attack us, you die. Your children die. There will be no mercy. It has always been that way and always will be. But I guess you goyim are slow learners, so we just keep teaching you the same lessons over and over again.

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    • Replies: @Qasim
    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    Hello sir. As always, an excellent, brutally honest comment.

    Could you explain what exactly is the "entirety of the Land of Israel"? Is it really everything between the Tigris and Euphrates?? Some things I have read said yes; others no.

    If on the other hand, if you guys are content with present-day Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, maybe Muslims need to seriously start thinking about giving in to your demands. If Jews are going to be at the forefront of destroying every functional/semi-functional Arab/Middle Eastern state (Iraq, Syria, Libya), and go after Iran next, just to proactively destroy any potential threats to present-day Israel and secure the possibility of future expansion, then maybe it is a small price to pay for Muslims to give up on Palestine and repatriate Palestinian refugees in order to ensure you guys won't torch the entire region.

    Muslims were ethnically cleansed off of much larger regions in the past (Spain after the Reconquista, Eastern Europe after the fall of the Ottoman Empire). You win some and you lose some I guess.

    It is something to think about at least. I just wish all Jews were as honest about what they want as you are.
    , @Pandos
    Can you show me the deed?

    Just because you can sing a song about the land doesn't mean the Jews aren't/ weren't just stealing the common heritage of mankind. Maybe Abraham was justifying theft, murder and war.
    , @Art

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator.
     
    This made up poopy mini god creator, resides only in your sicko Jew brain - it is a figment of your imagination.

    Rational people know better. Thieving is bad – it always has been bad – it will always be bad. No pretend god can make thieving OK.

    We humans can achieve something better then the law of the jungle.

    p.s. Your comments need a diaper and wipes.
    , @SolontoCroesus

    Iran is a backwards shit hole, (1) as was Syria even before the war. Nasser’s Egypt was as secular as could be and had German scientists (2) and Soviet money (3) pumping it up and it still sucked balls. Saddam’s Iraq managed to lose a war (4) against 13 year old Iranian boys with pitch forks.
     
    (1) If Iran is such a "backwards shit hole," why are Jews in Israel and in USA so orgasmic to overthrow and control it? Is it that Esther thang? God does not operate in the Book of Esther; ergo, God did not give Iran to Jews, so suck it up and get the message: Iran is for Iranians, not for zionist Jews.

    (2) Where would Jews be without Germans? Arthur Ruppin and the Production of the Modern Hebrew Culture Ruppin was born and educated in Germany. He brought German organization, German institutions, even German town-planning to Palestine and created the "new Jew" to fit into the German framework he transplanted to Palestine.

    (3) wrt to Egypt's dependence on German scientists, how about Jewish Israel's dependence on Russian brainpower? (Not to mention the numerous demands Israelis place on American scientists whereby Israelis share in almost all American research activity.)

    And of course there was the huge influx of Russian olim. We were the recipients, the beneficiaries, of much of the top talent of a nation of 200 million people – we, in our country of then six million people. It was an incredible injection of human capital. And we used it so well. There were, for example, large numbers of civil and mechanical engineers, and what we needed were electrical engineers. Well, for $2,000 per person, we trained engineers who became worth $200,000. It was a 100-fold return on investment. http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/They-tried-to-kill-us-we-won-now-were-changing-the-world
     
    (4) ha- ha ha-ha-ha. How 'bout dem Izzies getting their balls wrapped up in pink ribbons and handed to them by a bunch of Hezzie irregulars, Jews in their sooper-dooper tanks, Hezbollah employing wit and courage.

    As for the Dresden thing -- no Jew risked his butt to kill innocent people. Jews paid off or blackmailed the dumbfucks who carried out that crime against humanity. Then Jews had the balls to cry VICTIM!

    ---

    In short, Greasy, you got nothin. Just a loud and ugly mouth.

    Crawl back under your rock.
    , @Jacques Sheete

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator.
     
    How convenient, eh?

    Anyway, they usual suspects broke the covenant, so they got kicked outta Paradise, again. They can't reposses it until the Messiah comes, and "they" don't think JC was the real deal.Or did you miss that part? (Or are you just trying out a little sarcasm for humor's sake?)

    For those who still have not received the message, (especially the "Christian" Zionist moron contingent), here's what I'm talking about; read it and learn sumpin.:

    “ To [my grandfather] Zionism was counterfeit Judaism and the Zionists charlatans. His Orthodox belief held that the re-establishment of Israel was a matter of God in the messianic future. [Ed note: "Future," get it?]He would have agreed with Yehoshofat Harkabi, a former chief of Israeli military intelligence, who said "The Jews always considered that the land belonged to them, but in fact it belonged to the Arabs. I would go further: I would say the original source of this conflict lies with Israel."

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/my-grandfather-sparked-my-interest-in-debate-over-zionism.html
  30. Tell us what you really think, Mr. Dinh.

    Oh — and have you ever tried popcorn with mint leaves? It has a kind of Persian-Indian vibe which in itself creates all the sharp-tart tang so desirable by virtue-ethniquie foodies.

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  31. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Rehmat
    Is LINH DINH finally turning into another 'self-hating Jew'?

    The book, "Islamophobia & Israel", features investigative articles by two American Jewish writers, Donna Nevel and Elly Bulkin. The articles show in detail how the pro-Israel Jewish lobby groups fuel and fund hatred toward Muslims and Islam for the benefit of the Zionist entity.

    Both writers have been active against Western bigotry toward Islam and Muslims especially since September 11, 2001, which like the current Islamist ISIS terrorists, was work of US-Israel state terrorism. Both are conveners of a new project, the "Jewish Voice for Peace Network Against Islamophobia".

    Donna Nevel said at Cornell Campus: "The reality is that in post-9/11 era, anti-Arab racism and anti-Muslim bigotry have become an entrenched feature of the landscape in New York city and nationwide."

    Nevel and Bulkin exposed Abraham Foxman’s so-called “human rights” organization, Anti-Defamation League, as America’s leading Jewish voice, which creates and supports anti-Muslim feelings in the US and Europe.

    https://rehmat1.com/2014/12/13/islamophobia-for-israel/


    For decades the organized Jewry has accused Muslims of its past anti-Christian rhetoric, such as, anti-Semitism, Holocaust-denial, pro-Blood Libel, etc. to demonize Islam and Muslims in order to manipulate Western conscience in favor of the Jewish occupation of once Muslim-majority Palestine.

    hi ramhat !!!!
    no one needs jews to prod them to dislike muslims. thats one of the few jobs muslims can do on their own , like female genital mutilation , jihad and bacha bazi .

    here is news today of muslim on buddhist violence in sumatra indonesia.
    a mob of hundreds of muslims burn down and loot several buddhist temples because a buddhist woman dared ask the imam to lower the microphone volume.

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/07/30/vihara-pagodas-burned-down-plundered-in-n-sumatra.html

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    no one needs . . . prod[ing] . . . to dislike muslims. thats one of the few jobs muslims can do on their own , like female genital mutilation
     
    I'm only half-way through Joyce Carol Oates' "The Accursed," set in Princeton Borough, NJ in the years when Woodrow Wilson was president of the college there (~1904 - 1906).

    It's fiction, of course, but the author has female characters suggesting -- hinting at --- alluding to the practice of clitoridectomy -- female genital mutilation, tho it's officially defined in the civilized world (i.e. wikipedia) as "female circumcision" -- as more-or-less routinely prescribed for upper-class females.

    Ain't that a kick in the groin: The Hoity-Toity class in USA, that beacon of civilization, the light unto the nations, was no less eager to control their wimmin by mutilating their genitals than are those uncivilized Africans-Muslims; H-T USAians were merely more successful at keeping the practice under wraps.
    , @Rehmat
    But, but, but darling your Tribe, Christians, Hindus and Pagans were long involved in genital mutilation and rabbi sucking blood out of baby penis even today - before the arrival of Islam in 610 CE.

    In Eritrea 89% of Catholics and 85% of Protestants practice female genital mutilation (FGM,) whereas in Niger (94% Muslim) 80% (more according to some surveys) of the people do NOT practice FGM. Clearly Islam is NOT what causes FGM.

    http://come-and-hear.com/editor/br-smc/index.html
  32. “The world has enough terrorists,” Justice Bruce wrote. “We do not need the police to create more out of marginalized people.”

    Canada Judge Rules That Police Entrapped Couple in Bomb Plot

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/world/americas/canada-rcmp-bc-bomb-plot.html?_r=0

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  33. Dear L.D.’

    Your quote :….this movements[Neoconservatism] main aim is to conserve Israel…..

    Actually this may not be accurate or at least it cannot be known.

    The reason why is because no one knows, to a certainty, how the Arab nations and the world powers would react to an Israel that complied (first) with ALL its obligations under international law.

    You could make a legitimate argument for Neoconservatives as the “protectors” of Israel, only if and when Israel had conformed to all its international legal obligations, and NOT before.

    For example, were the “war on terror” to have occurred AFTER Israel had graciously returned all of the West bank to Palestine, all of the Golan to Syria, and offered a just compensation package to Palestinian refugees it could not countenance returning, then the Neocons war on terror, were it to exist, might have a great deal more integrity.

    Only then could the argument be made, justly, about Israels “survival”.

    No?

    Rather, one could argue, Neoconservative-ism and its entire “war on terror” was created to perpetuate and consolidate Israels criminal breaches, and fool the US into committing massive criminal breaches too (the Iraq war)…..not its mere survival.

    This argument becomes clear, in a highly coherent way, once you understand that the war on terror was born, first and foremost ,out of Israels desire to KEEP most of the West bank, and all of the Golan Heights, in defiance of international law

    Which is a call to war.

    A call to war , mind you, not just against the Muslim world, but against the entire international governing legal structure instituted after WWII.

    It is the Neocon think tanks who were tasked with fashioning this war and somehow make it palatable….make it seem defensive…and “existential” .

    They had to design a “construct” for this “taking” ….. to make it work….make it ‘profitable”….make it seem “heroic”.

    They had to mold the conflict so Israel (and all who supported it) looked like they were on the right side of history, NOT the new “lebensraum-ers”……

    .Thus the “war on terror” was born.

    I think the greatest proof of this,above all else, is Israels unwillingness to return one inch of land, either to Syria or Palestine, period.

    And ,may I add, it is the reason why Israel has NO peace plan, and has never created one.

    Your thoughts ?

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    wow.

    Neoconservative-ism and its entire “war on terror” was created to perpetuate and consolidate Israels criminal breaches, and fool the US into committing massive criminal breaches too (the Iraq war)…..not its mere survival.

    This argument becomes clear, in a highly coherent way, once you understand that the war on terror was born, first and foremost ,out of Israels desire to KEEP most of the West bank, and all of the Golan Heights, in defiance of international law

    Which is a call to war.

    A call to war , mind you, not just against the Muslim world, but against the entire international governing legal structure instituted after WWII.


    Alexander, what an extraordinary acute analysis; you shifted the paradigm by at least 85%.

    I say only 85% firstly, because I don't want to be discouraging and say only 50%, but I do believe your analysis does not account for the totality of the zionist (neoconservative) project in creating Israel.

    As much as I hate to give grmbl an ounce of satisfaction, he/she/it is probably -- hopefully -- correct: Linh Dinh's pull-no-punches essay will open the door to those who question ordained narratives, and that is all for the better: what the American people need first and foremost is the confidence to discover, acknowledge and assert history in its full historic reality.

    Alexander, in my understanding of events and of the timeline of the zionist, it started well before World War II; Israel did not come into being because of The Holocaust, where that proper noun refers to what is claimed to be a unique-in-all-the-world act of violence against Jews. Rather, I believe the timeline and an accurate rendering of historical events as they happened reveals that millions of other peoples, primarily Russians and Germans, as well as other European Christians, were subject to a holocaust to facilitate the Jewish take-over of the lands formerly inhabited by Palestinians, and to coerce the "in-gathering of the diaspora," from those European lands; and to either eliminate or punish those Jews of the diaspora who were either unsuitable or unwilling to migrate to Palestine.

    In other words, Alexander, (and I suspect you will reject this notion, but think about it), some of the the events of World War I, and almost all subsequent events from the ending of that war, thru the inter-war period; the period from 1933 to 1945, and beyond, were cut from the same cloth as your argument bout the neoconservative war on terror:

    This argument becomes clear, in a highly coherent way, once you understand that the war on terror World War I, the Balfour Declaration, the Versailles Treaty, zionist colonizing activities 1918 - 1948; Jewish activities leading to-, during, and after World War II were born, first and foremost ,out of Israels desire to KEEP TAKE most of the West bank, and all of the Golan Heights, (and even more) in defiance of international law

    Which is a call to war.
     
    As for your next statement:

    A call to war , mind you, not just against the Muslim world, but against the entire international governing legal structure instituted after WWII.
     
    I argue that it is a fundamental mistake to view WWII as an ending point to one era and the inflection point initiating a new "international structure;" rather, WWII is on the same strategic continuum as the zionist/neoconservative- conceived and branded global war on terror; WWII had the same goals then as GWOT has now; GWOT is the logical extension of the same agenda -- to establish and maintain (Anglo)-zionist dominance over all of Palestine as a "homeland exclusively for Jews," as regards lands in the Levant; and financial/economic and political hegemonic dominance by the Anglo- world, with which Jews include themselves, over much of the rest of the world.

    Pass the popcorn.

    PS I applaud Linh Dinh's courage in writing as he did. He gives others confidence that what they perceive as real is an essential and legitimate contribution to the national dialog.
  34. The neoconservatives where once with the democratic party, then they attached themselves to the republican regime, and now they are back with Hillary and the democratic gang. Talk about wandering Jews. The tribe just can’t sit still

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  35. A thoughtful and perceptive article by Linh Dinh, capped by his last sentence: “A key aim of the War on Terror is to spread terror everywhere, so that the state, that master of terror, can be everywhere.”

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  36. Many progressive Jews support massive immigration in the West, but not Israel. They criticize nationalism in the West, but not Israel.

    Can you cite one individual that actually has this viewpoint? It is a common trope but I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen it supported. Links to quotes would be nice – find a progressive Jewish person who has expressed support for massive immigration to the West and also closed borders for Israel, or has supported Israeli nationalism but not Western nationalism.

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    Every single Jewish Democratic member of Congress supports Israeli nationalism but not American nationalism. (I have no idea what "Western nationalism" might be.)
    , @Rurik


    Many progressive Jews support massive immigration in the West, but not Israel. They criticize nationalism in the West, but not Israel.
     
    Can you cite one individual that actually has this viewpoint?
     
    perhaps the most notorious is Sheldon Adelson, the neocon, uber-Zionist snake who funds cuckservative Republicans.

    his daily newspapers in Israel call immigrants into Israel "invaders", but he demands that all his stooges for US office support open borders for the US.

    but this is the mantra of the whole neoconservative apparatus! (and basically most Jews everywhere) They demand fealty to Israel in all things, including unlimited supplies of America's blood and treasure and Eternal WarⓊ fought against Israel's well-earned enemies, even as we're (US and Europe) reeling under the madness of unlimited immigration, which they also demand.

    There are only a few Jewish conservatives who will allow that perhaps America doesn't have to have open borders. Like Michael Savage for instance. But most of them all demand Jewish racial supremacism for Israel while simultaneously demanding that Europe and all white nations commit ethnic suicide.

    They aren't hard to come by. It's a greater challenge to find those few Jews who agree that perhaps Israel should be more conciliatory and that the nations of the West are entitled to borders. Like Mr. Unz here, for instance.
    , @schmenz
    The article pointed out the words and actions of Hungarian Jew George Soros, with quotations. He is one source openly calling for the end of European Christian culture (what's left of it, anyway). Another would be that sterling character Mark Zuckerberg.

    FYI: http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/07/game-over-europe-a-colour-revolution-is-coming/
  37. @Greasy William

    They fear secular Arabs who can build cities and use technology. They fear modern Muslims like Iranians who can do engineering and build nuclear plants.
     
    There are no such Arab or Muslim states and there never have been nor will there be. Iran is a backwards shit hole, as was Syria even before the war. Nasser's Egypt was as secular as could be and had German scientists and Soviet money pumping it up and it still sucked balls. Saddam's Iraq managed to lose a war against 13 year old Iranian boys with pitch forks.

    As for Israel being responsible for the problems in the Middle East, it is really getting tiring for me to have to keep explaining this, but here it is again:

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    As for the accusation that we have gravely harmed the peoples of the Arab/Islamic world: Damn right we have. Go ask the 10s of thousands of children who were burned alive in Dresden what happens to a nation that makes war on G-d's Chosen People.

    You attack us, you die. Your children die. There will be no mercy. It has always been that way and always will be. But I guess you goyim are slow learners, so we just keep teaching you the same lessons over and over again.

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    Hello sir. As always, an excellent, brutally honest comment.

    Could you explain what exactly is the “entirety of the Land of Israel”? Is it really everything between the Tigris and Euphrates?? Some things I have read said yes; others no.

    If on the other hand, if you guys are content with present-day Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, maybe Muslims need to seriously start thinking about giving in to your demands. If Jews are going to be at the forefront of destroying every functional/semi-functional Arab/Middle Eastern state (Iraq, Syria, Libya), and go after Iran next, just to proactively destroy any potential threats to present-day Israel and secure the possibility of future expansion, then maybe it is a small price to pay for Muslims to give up on Palestine and repatriate Palestinian refugees in order to ensure you guys won’t torch the entire region.

    Muslims were ethnically cleansed off of much larger regions in the past (Spain after the Reconquista, Eastern Europe after the fall of the Ottoman Empire). You win some and you lose some I guess.

    It is something to think about at least. I just wish all Jews were as honest about what they want as you are.

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    He's no Jew, he's a shape-shifting troll.
    , @Astuteobservor II
    meh, the muslim countries needs to get rich and buy better arms. that is all. only reason they can't fight back now is because they are weak militarily.

    or end up like saudi who are like slaves. they even funded netanyahu's election campaign.
    , @Rehmat
    If you believe that Muslim countries should absorb nine million Palestinians to save the region from an Arab Holocaust at the hands of Israeli Jews - I must say you have brain of a child.

    After the Palestinians are gone, the Jews will demand that Arabs should leave parts of Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, and Saudi Arabia. Zionist Jews are a parasite horde which cannot be satisfied.

    https://rehmat1.com/2009/07/18/eretz-israel-and-the-two-state-solution/
  38. @CK
    My Dear Mr. Dinh:
    " Yet the movement’s non-Jewish members were largely bound to the group by a shared commitment to the largest, most important Jewish cause: the survival of Israel."
    That is incorrect. The most important cause to the neo-cons is the reversal of the results of
    the 1924/25 decision in The USSR that Stalin would be the leader and that the Trotskyites would be eliminated/exiled. Since that time, the grandfathers and fathers of the current crop of neo-cons have fought the result. This is why Vicky Nuland and her apparatchiks have tried soooooooo very very hard to get a serious war started in Ukraine. Her current failures will be redeemed if HRC assumes the presidency.
    Your second error is to believe that the Semitic cousins are actually fighting each other.
    According to accepted history, the Islamic Arabs and the Israelites are cousins. Same root father different mothers. Me against my brother; my brother and I against our cousins; me my brother and my cousins against the world. As it has been so shall it always be.

    You make an extremely important and valid point, but the actual emergence of Trotskyists or -ites (never having been either, I have forgotten the precise theological division on that point) as neo-cons comes after 1945, Burnham, whose Managerial Revolution, if I have the title right (I have read it), influenced Orwell’s 1984, seems to have been the first.

    Floodgates opened from there.

    Before that, the Trots confined themselves to sabotage in the USSR, attacking the Comintern, and splintering themseles umpteen times. Look up ‘Fourth International’, skip the Wikipedia link, view the many groups with so few members and such stupid ideas. They feed into, and are part of, much of the idiocy of today.

    Readers of the remainder of my post are likely to disagree, but despite Stalin’s many faillngs and cruel policiesl , he was riding the tiger of the ancestors of the neocons, and did the best job he was able to in the situation, in the end, wanted to depose them, they struck back, Stalin was dead, Jews (probably backed by the CIA) gradually rose again in the party, idiot Gorbachev allowed it, soon after, they raped the economy.

    Outright theft unde Yeltsin.

    The thieves were all dual-nationals or a combo, US, Israeli, USSR.

    … and coordinated from Israel and the US.

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    Che Guava writes, "Trotskyists or -ites (never having been either, I have forgotten the precise theological division on that point)." I believe the latter was actually a disparaging locution spread by the CP; compare Hitlerite and McCarthyite.
  39. @anon
    hi ramhat !!!!
    no one needs jews to prod them to dislike muslims. thats one of the few jobs muslims can do on their own , like female genital mutilation , jihad and bacha bazi .

    here is news today of muslim on buddhist violence in sumatra indonesia.
    a mob of hundreds of muslims burn down and loot several buddhist temples because a buddhist woman dared ask the imam to lower the microphone volume.

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/07/30/vihara-pagodas-burned-down-plundered-in-n-sumatra.html

    no one needs . . . prod[ing] . . . to dislike muslims. thats one of the few jobs muslims can do on their own , like female genital mutilation

    I’m only half-way through Joyce Carol Oates’ “The Accursed,” set in Princeton Borough, NJ in the years when Woodrow Wilson was president of the college there (~1904 – 1906).

    It’s fiction, of course, but the author has female characters suggesting — hinting at — alluding to the practice of clitoridectomy — female genital mutilation, tho it’s officially defined in the civilized world (i.e. wikipedia) as “female circumcision” — as more-or-less routinely prescribed for upper-class females.

    Ain’t that a kick in the groin: The Hoity-Toity class in USA, that beacon of civilization, the light unto the nations, was no less eager to control their wimmin by mutilating their genitals than are those uncivilized Africans-Muslims; H-T USAians were merely more successful at keeping the practice under wraps.

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    [It’s fiction, of course]

    Maybe you should have stopped right there.
    , @Chris Mallory
    Yeah, a work of fiction published in 2013 by an atheist who surprise, surprise has hidden (((roots))) in her background is your evidence that female circumcision was rife among the educated set at Princeton in the early 1900's?

    Even your wiki citation says that the practice was ended as a treatment for insanity in 1867.
  40. Who benefits? Releasing the wave of refugees was not a spontaneous phenomenon. Who paid for the trip, provided logistics and organized young men into marching groups recruiting them in camps in Turkey? Why do you think Trump knew to bring immigration issue into the forefront already in June 2015 before anybody knew that there will be a major refugee crisis in Europe? Why Orban of Hungary started building the fence ahead of time? The refugee wave attack was the third attempt by the usual suspects to bring Europeans together against Syria. The first was the poisonous gas in 2013 and the second was rolling out the Islamic State in winter 2014. But they did not work! The usual suspects did not get the no-fly zone in Syria and Assad did not get Gaddafi treatment. The usual suspects were in hurry because Russia was already preparing to move to Syria. They wanted to get a resolution for a no-fly zone in Syria and get confrontation in Syria with Iranian troops to derail the agreement that Obama worked out with Iran. But Merkel saved the situation by temporarily defusing the crisis by welcoming the refugees. It was a perfect application of Aikido. The force of the attack went into vacuum. And Putin moved in.

    False flag attacks became a big business and there are many contractors who can organize it for any state or against any state. Israel was the first country that mastered this new weapon. They have the know how. There are many benefits of terrorist attacks. Sometimes contradictory. They create fear and confusion among people and always send a message bad Arabs and Islam and good Israel and Jews. In France they can beef up the police state so they can fight the resistance to the neoliberal economic transition they are going through. They need France to get engaged in Syria. But Paris, November 2015 unintentionally brought France closer to Russia. This was not desired. So the shooting down of Su-24 by Nato member was arranged. All Nato countries had to close the ranks including France so her flirt with Russia was nipped in the bud. Attacks in Germany are clearly to undermine Merkel. Germany cannot be trusted and she is too powerful to the liking of the Zio-Anglo-Americans. Besides Europeans and Germans and French, in particular, are still way too sympathetic to Palestinians. So New Right has to be built up on fears of immigrants and Arab and islamophobia. This New Right is pro Israel because Israel is to them the shining example of how to deal with Arabs and Islam. The New Right was defined by Breivik. Munich operation was sending this message in open text. The New Right will help to dismantle the welfare state. This is what neoliberals want. Brexit was the part of it. Zio-Anglo-Americans have a different plan for the world and they do not see Germany in it or at least Germany in its current shape and form. They always feared the possibility of Germany following the dictum of Bismarck: “The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia.”

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    False flag attacks became a big business and there are many contractors who can organize it for any state or against any state.
     
    Yeah, I think this is a very important point. It also seems that there must be great overlap between the contractors who set up the drills and those who set up the "real event". Well, not exactly a "real event' since what is presented as the real event is also a simulacrum.

    So, with the same people, broadly speaking, running the drill and the actual false flag or whatever, you have these crisis actors, sometimes the same people on the scene for different events. Really fishy things like that, that the MSM never investigate, of course.

    It seems that sometimes the people involved must just think they are performing in a simulacrum but then the footage is used and presented as the real thing. That might be why some of the acting is so bad.
  41. @Greasy William

    They fear secular Arabs who can build cities and use technology. They fear modern Muslims like Iranians who can do engineering and build nuclear plants.
     
    There are no such Arab or Muslim states and there never have been nor will there be. Iran is a backwards shit hole, as was Syria even before the war. Nasser's Egypt was as secular as could be and had German scientists and Soviet money pumping it up and it still sucked balls. Saddam's Iraq managed to lose a war against 13 year old Iranian boys with pitch forks.

    As for Israel being responsible for the problems in the Middle East, it is really getting tiring for me to have to keep explaining this, but here it is again:

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    As for the accusation that we have gravely harmed the peoples of the Arab/Islamic world: Damn right we have. Go ask the 10s of thousands of children who were burned alive in Dresden what happens to a nation that makes war on G-d's Chosen People.

    You attack us, you die. Your children die. There will be no mercy. It has always been that way and always will be. But I guess you goyim are slow learners, so we just keep teaching you the same lessons over and over again.

    Can you show me the deed?

    Just because you can sing a song about the land doesn’t mean the Jews aren’t/ weren’t just stealing the common heritage of mankind. Maybe Abraham was justifying theft, murder and war.

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    Well on this one, Greasy is on firm ground. Bereshit 15:18 [Genesis 15:18].

    Although he and I have a disagreement on the complete list of owners of that deed.
    , @Greasy William

    Can you show me the deed?
     
    It's called the Torah.

    As for the accusation of thieving, it is impossible to steal that what is rightfully yours. We didn't steal from the Palestinians anymore than we did from the Canaanites. On the contrary, it was them who stole from us by squatting on territory that the Creator had reserved for the Jewish people.
  42. Neoconservatism birthed the War on Terror. Founded by Jews, this movement’s main aim is to conserve Israel, even if they have to wreck the entire Middle East, disfigure Europe and ruin the United States.

    it is not about ‘conserving’ Israel, but rather expanding Israel.

    and destroying Europe and the US are not things they’re willing to do, but are earnestly motivated to do by their religious teachings. They hate the Muslims for sure, but they consider Western civilization and its people as an existential threat to their narrative; that only the Jews have souls.

    And as long as they own and control our money supply, they’ll always get their way.

    End the Fed, or the Fed will end us.

    good article!

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  43. Speaking in Hanover on April 25th, 2016, Obama praised Merkel, “What’s happening with respect to her position on refugees here, in Europe, she’s on the right side of history on this…”

    I believe Obama is really serious about wanting to be on the right side of history. After all, in the fullness of history, we’ll all be dead and our nations will have disintegrated, which seems to be what his policies are striving for.

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  44. @SolontoCroesus

    no one needs . . . prod[ing] . . . to dislike muslims. thats one of the few jobs muslims can do on their own , like female genital mutilation
     
    I'm only half-way through Joyce Carol Oates' "The Accursed," set in Princeton Borough, NJ in the years when Woodrow Wilson was president of the college there (~1904 - 1906).

    It's fiction, of course, but the author has female characters suggesting -- hinting at --- alluding to the practice of clitoridectomy -- female genital mutilation, tho it's officially defined in the civilized world (i.e. wikipedia) as "female circumcision" -- as more-or-less routinely prescribed for upper-class females.

    Ain't that a kick in the groin: The Hoity-Toity class in USA, that beacon of civilization, the light unto the nations, was no less eager to control their wimmin by mutilating their genitals than are those uncivilized Africans-Muslims; H-T USAians were merely more successful at keeping the practice under wraps.

    [It’s fiction, of course]

    Maybe you should have stopped right there.

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  45. @Qasim
    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    Hello sir. As always, an excellent, brutally honest comment.

    Could you explain what exactly is the "entirety of the Land of Israel"? Is it really everything between the Tigris and Euphrates?? Some things I have read said yes; others no.

    If on the other hand, if you guys are content with present-day Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, maybe Muslims need to seriously start thinking about giving in to your demands. If Jews are going to be at the forefront of destroying every functional/semi-functional Arab/Middle Eastern state (Iraq, Syria, Libya), and go after Iran next, just to proactively destroy any potential threats to present-day Israel and secure the possibility of future expansion, then maybe it is a small price to pay for Muslims to give up on Palestine and repatriate Palestinian refugees in order to ensure you guys won't torch the entire region.

    Muslims were ethnically cleansed off of much larger regions in the past (Spain after the Reconquista, Eastern Europe after the fall of the Ottoman Empire). You win some and you lose some I guess.

    It is something to think about at least. I just wish all Jews were as honest about what they want as you are.

    He’s no Jew, he’s a shape-shifting troll.

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    He is strangely masochistically honest in other matters, such as: self-acknowledged ugliness of physical appearance, endowment from the shallow end of the gene pool and a lack of female suitors.
  46. @biz

    Many progressive Jews support massive immigration in the West, but not Israel. They criticize nationalism in the West, but not Israel.
     
    Can you cite one individual that actually has this viewpoint? It is a common trope but I don't think I've ever actually seen it supported. Links to quotes would be nice - find a progressive Jewish person who has expressed support for massive immigration to the West and also closed borders for Israel, or has supported Israeli nationalism but not Western nationalism.

    Every single Jewish Democratic member of Congress supports Israeli nationalism but not American nationalism. (I have no idea what “Western nationalism” might be.)

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    You are incorrect. Most Jewish Democratic MOCs are in with the J Street lobby which is fairly anti-Israel as American politics goes. They support a two state solution, sharing Jerusalem, evacuating "settlements," and providing compinsation to Palestinian (sic) refugees (sic).
    , @Rurik

    Every single Jewish Democratic member of Congress supports Israeli nationalism but not American nationalism
     
    pretty sure that includes every Jewish Republican member of congress too (or supreme court justice or every other office, like "Homeland" Security, for instance)

    perhaps the most notorious being the execrable Eric Cantor, whose commitment to open borders was so congenitally intertwined with his identity and politics, that the only way his constituents could extricate it was to send his duplicitous arse packing.

    my question is, are their any Jewish congressmen (or judges or media executives or neocons or casino owners or bankers, etc..) who support closing the borders?

    from what it seems to me, every single Jewish member of congress demands Israel's absolute right to defend itself (slaughter Palestinian children en masse for the fun and amusement of it and steal their neighbor's land like the Golan) while concurrently demanding that the US keep its borders open to radicalized Muslims fleeing the assorted atrocities the neocons are waging on their lands and families (and basically, everybody else).

    it's a two sided sword

    ethnic nationalism and racial supremacy for Israel- including ethnic cleansing (and torture and wanton slaughter) of the owners of the land

    +

    white ethnic suicide for the US (and all Western nations [especially Germany!])

    Zionism means both things simultaneously

    and our Jewish congress critters have the voting records to prove it
    , @Sam Shama
    There are more than a few, a large number in fact, who do not support the expansionist state, yet remain petrified [for a complex set of reasons one supposes] to state so publicly.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    You quibble disingenouly. You know he meant what you coudn't have pretended to misunderstand, viz. Western [nations] nationalism[s].

    Don't bother. My only interest is the counter quibble.
  47. @biz

    Many progressive Jews support massive immigration in the West, but not Israel. They criticize nationalism in the West, but not Israel.
     
    Can you cite one individual that actually has this viewpoint? It is a common trope but I don't think I've ever actually seen it supported. Links to quotes would be nice - find a progressive Jewish person who has expressed support for massive immigration to the West and also closed borders for Israel, or has supported Israeli nationalism but not Western nationalism.

    Many progressive Jews support massive immigration in the West, but not Israel. They criticize nationalism in the West, but not Israel.

    Can you cite one individual that actually has this viewpoint?

    perhaps the most notorious is Sheldon Adelson, the neocon, uber-Zionist snake who funds cuckservative Republicans.

    his daily newspapers in Israel call immigrants into Israel “invaders”, but he demands that all his stooges for US office support open borders for the US.

    but this is the mantra of the whole neoconservative apparatus! (and basically most Jews everywhere) They demand fealty to Israel in all things, including unlimited supplies of America’s blood and treasure and Eternal WarⓊ fought against Israel’s well-earned enemies, even as we’re (US and Europe) reeling under the madness of unlimited immigration, which they also demand.

    There are only a few Jewish conservatives who will allow that perhaps America doesn’t have to have open borders. Like Michael Savage for instance. But most of them all demand Jewish racial supremacism for Israel while simultaneously demanding that Europe and all white nations commit ethnic suicide.

    They aren’t hard to come by. It’s a greater challenge to find those few Jews who agree that perhaps Israel should be more conciliatory and that the nations of the West are entitled to borders. Like Mr. Unz here, for instance.

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    Sheldon Adelson is not a "progressive" by any stretch of the imagination. Try again.
  48. @anon
    hi ramhat !!!!
    no one needs jews to prod them to dislike muslims. thats one of the few jobs muslims can do on their own , like female genital mutilation , jihad and bacha bazi .

    here is news today of muslim on buddhist violence in sumatra indonesia.
    a mob of hundreds of muslims burn down and loot several buddhist temples because a buddhist woman dared ask the imam to lower the microphone volume.

    http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/07/30/vihara-pagodas-burned-down-plundered-in-n-sumatra.html

    But, but, but darling your Tribe, Christians, Hindus and Pagans were long involved in genital mutilation and rabbi sucking blood out of baby penis even today – before the arrival of Islam in 610 CE.

    In Eritrea 89% of Catholics and 85% of Protestants practice female genital mutilation (FGM,) whereas in Niger (94% Muslim) 80% (more according to some surveys) of the people do NOT practice FGM. Clearly Islam is NOT what causes FGM.

    http://come-and-hear.com/editor/br-smc/index.html

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  49. @alexander
    Dear L.D.'

    Your quote :....this movements[Neoconservatism] main aim is to conserve Israel.....


    Actually this may not be accurate or at least it cannot be known.

    The reason why is because no one knows, to a certainty, how the Arab nations and the world powers would react to an Israel that complied (first) with ALL its obligations under international law.

    You could make a legitimate argument for Neoconservatives as the "protectors" of Israel, only if and when Israel had conformed to all its international legal obligations, and NOT before.

    For example, were the "war on terror" to have occurred AFTER Israel had graciously returned all of the West bank to Palestine, all of the Golan to Syria, and offered a just compensation package to Palestinian refugees it could not countenance returning, then the Neocons war on terror, were it to exist, might have a great deal more integrity.

    Only then could the argument be made, justly, about Israels "survival".

    No?


    Rather, one could argue, Neoconservative-ism and its entire "war on terror" was created to perpetuate and consolidate Israels criminal breaches, and fool the US into committing massive criminal breaches too (the Iraq war).....not its mere survival.

    This argument becomes clear, in a highly coherent way, once you understand that the war on terror was born, first and foremost ,out of Israels desire to KEEP most of the West bank, and all of the Golan Heights, in defiance of international law

    Which is a call to war.

    A call to war , mind you, not just against the Muslim world, but against the entire international governing legal structure instituted after WWII.

    It is the Neocon think tanks who were tasked with fashioning this war and somehow make it palatable....make it seem defensive...and "existential" .

    They had to design a "construct" for this "taking" ..... to make it work....make it 'profitable"....make it seem "heroic".

    They had to mold the conflict so Israel (and all who supported it) looked like they were on the right side of history, NOT the new "lebensraum-ers"......

    .Thus the "war on terror" was born.

    I think the greatest proof of this,above all else, is Israels unwillingness to return one inch of land, either to Syria or Palestine, period.

    And ,may I add, it is the reason why Israel has NO peace plan, and has never created one.

    Your thoughts ?

    wow.

    Neoconservative-ism and its entire “war on terror” was created to perpetuate and consolidate Israels criminal breaches, and fool the US into committing massive criminal breaches too (the Iraq war)…..not its mere survival.

    This argument becomes clear, in a highly coherent way, once you understand that the war on terror was born, first and foremost ,out of Israels desire to KEEP most of the West bank, and all of the Golan Heights, in defiance of international law

    Which is a call to war.

    A call to war , mind you, not just against the Muslim world, but against the entire international governing legal structure instituted after WWII.

    Alexander, what an extraordinary acute analysis; you shifted the paradigm by at least 85%.

    I say only 85% firstly, because I don’t want to be discouraging and say only 50%, but I do believe your analysis does not account for the totality of the zionist (neoconservative) project in creating Israel.

    As much as I hate to give grmbl an ounce of satisfaction, he/she/it is probably — hopefully — correct: Linh Dinh’s pull-no-punches essay will open the door to those who question ordained narratives, and that is all for the better: what the American people need first and foremost is the confidence to discover, acknowledge and assert history in its full historic reality.

    Alexander, in my understanding of events and of the timeline of the zionist, it started well before World War II; Israel did not come into being because of The Holocaust, where that proper noun refers to what is claimed to be a unique-in-all-the-world act of violence against Jews. Rather, I believe the timeline and an accurate rendering of historical events as they happened reveals that millions of other peoples, primarily Russians and Germans, as well as other European Christians, were subject to a holocaust to facilitate the Jewish take-over of the lands formerly inhabited by Palestinians, and to coerce the “in-gathering of the diaspora,” from those European lands; and to either eliminate or punish those Jews of the diaspora who were either unsuitable or unwilling to migrate to Palestine.

    In other words, Alexander, (and I suspect you will reject this notion, but think about it), some of the the events of World War I, and almost all subsequent events from the ending of that war, thru the inter-war period; the period from 1933 to 1945, and beyond, were cut from the same cloth as your argument bout the neoconservative war on terror:

    This argument becomes clear, in a highly coherent way, once you understand that the war on terror World War I, the Balfour Declaration, the Versailles Treaty, zionist colonizing activities 1918 – 1948; Jewish activities leading to-, during, and after World War II were born, first and foremost ,out of Israels desire to KEEP TAKE most of the West bank, and all of the Golan Heights, (and even more) in defiance of international law

    Which is a call to war.

    As for your next statement:

    A call to war , mind you, not just against the Muslim world, but against the entire international governing legal structure instituted after WWII.

    I argue that it is a fundamental mistake to view WWII as an ending point to one era and the inflection point initiating a new “international structure;” rather, WWII is on the same strategic continuum as the zionist/neoconservative- conceived and branded global war on terror; WWII had the same goals then as GWOT has now; GWOT is the logical extension of the same agenda — to establish and maintain (Anglo)-zionist dominance over all of Palestine as a “homeland exclusively for Jews,” as regards lands in the Levant; and financial/economic and political hegemonic dominance by the Anglo- world, with which Jews include themselves, over much of the rest of the world.

    Pass the popcorn.

    PS I applaud Linh Dinh’s courage in writing as he did. He gives others confidence that what they perceive as real is an essential and legitimate contribution to the national dialog.

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    Hi S2C,


    You are correct.

    I do reject the notion.

    None of the international laws created after WWII, the Nuremberg Trials, and the Geneva conventions of 1949 allow for the taking of territory through force.

    Israel as a nation state is recognized by the vast majority of countries in the world.

    Israels land grabbing (beyond the green line) of Palestinian territory,is rejected by all the countries of the world, with few exceptions.

    Israels annexation of the Golan heights is rejected by all the countries of the world with few exceptions.

    (although there might be one more exception to both, after the next US election)

    But be that as it may, nobody on earth seems to have the power to stop Israel from taking the land if it wants to.

    So that is where we are.
  50. @Qasim
    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    Hello sir. As always, an excellent, brutally honest comment.

    Could you explain what exactly is the "entirety of the Land of Israel"? Is it really everything between the Tigris and Euphrates?? Some things I have read said yes; others no.

    If on the other hand, if you guys are content with present-day Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, maybe Muslims need to seriously start thinking about giving in to your demands. If Jews are going to be at the forefront of destroying every functional/semi-functional Arab/Middle Eastern state (Iraq, Syria, Libya), and go after Iran next, just to proactively destroy any potential threats to present-day Israel and secure the possibility of future expansion, then maybe it is a small price to pay for Muslims to give up on Palestine and repatriate Palestinian refugees in order to ensure you guys won't torch the entire region.

    Muslims were ethnically cleansed off of much larger regions in the past (Spain after the Reconquista, Eastern Europe after the fall of the Ottoman Empire). You win some and you lose some I guess.

    It is something to think about at least. I just wish all Jews were as honest about what they want as you are.

    meh, the muslim countries needs to get rich and buy better arms. that is all. only reason they can’t fight back now is because they are weak militarily.

    or end up like saudi who are like slaves. they even funded netanyahu’s election campaign.

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  51. @Qasim
    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    Hello sir. As always, an excellent, brutally honest comment.

    Could you explain what exactly is the "entirety of the Land of Israel"? Is it really everything between the Tigris and Euphrates?? Some things I have read said yes; others no.

    If on the other hand, if you guys are content with present-day Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, maybe Muslims need to seriously start thinking about giving in to your demands. If Jews are going to be at the forefront of destroying every functional/semi-functional Arab/Middle Eastern state (Iraq, Syria, Libya), and go after Iran next, just to proactively destroy any potential threats to present-day Israel and secure the possibility of future expansion, then maybe it is a small price to pay for Muslims to give up on Palestine and repatriate Palestinian refugees in order to ensure you guys won't torch the entire region.

    Muslims were ethnically cleansed off of much larger regions in the past (Spain after the Reconquista, Eastern Europe after the fall of the Ottoman Empire). You win some and you lose some I guess.

    It is something to think about at least. I just wish all Jews were as honest about what they want as you are.

    If you believe that Muslim countries should absorb nine million Palestinians to save the region from an Arab Holocaust at the hands of Israeli Jews – I must say you have brain of a child.

    After the Palestinians are gone, the Jews will demand that Arabs should leave parts of Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, and Saudi Arabia. Zionist Jews are a parasite horde which cannot be satisfied.

    https://rehmat1.com/2009/07/18/eretz-israel-and-the-two-state-solution/

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  52. @5371
    Every single Jewish Democratic member of Congress supports Israeli nationalism but not American nationalism. (I have no idea what "Western nationalism" might be.)

    You are incorrect. Most Jewish Democratic MOCs are in with the J Street lobby which is fairly anti-Israel as American politics goes. They support a two state solution, sharing Jerusalem, evacuating “settlements,” and providing compinsation to Palestinian (sic) refugees (sic).

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    I am correct. Anyone who calls for Israel to remain a Jewish state with a "right of return" for anyone approved as a Jew from anywhere in the world is by definition an Israeli nationalist, even if some of them do not at present support continued unlimited expansion by Israel and the immediate expulsion of all the conquered peoples from its territory. In the case of no other nationalism, after all, do we reserve the name of nationalist only for the most extreme representatives of that ideology.
  53. @grmbl
    Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won't the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?

    Alright, time for another 100+ comments thread featuring rampant holocaust denial and Trutherism. Yeeee haw!

    Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won’t the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?

    You joke – but there is a great stain, a great stench swirling around the Jews.

    It is Palestine – the theft of Palestinian property from its owners – is odious – it is sickening to all good people.

    It is not only the Palestinian people – the process itself has engulfed the whole ME and coerced the Western world. The death and disruption already cause by Israel, exceeds what happened in WWII to the Jews. And of course the evil is not over – it is only at a midpoint.

    The Stain of Palestine is growing by the day on the Jew.

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    There was no such thing as a "Palestinian" until the 1960s. Nobody considered themselves to be one before that. It is a fake ethnicity created to fool gullible Westerners such as yourself.

    There is no Israeli-Palestinian conflict. There is an Israeli-Arab conflict, in which the Arabs are desperate to recolonize the 1% of the Middle East that Jews have self-government in which not coincidentally is the only Middle Eastern country with an advanced economy and functioning democracy. But gullible leftist Westerners like you believe the myths.
    , @Dissident
    Please don't conflate Jews, per se and Zionists. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews. Incredible that despite the photo this piece leads with, I have found only one comment that even mentions Torah-based anti-Zionism.
  54. @Rurik


    Many progressive Jews support massive immigration in the West, but not Israel. They criticize nationalism in the West, but not Israel.
     
    Can you cite one individual that actually has this viewpoint?
     
    perhaps the most notorious is Sheldon Adelson, the neocon, uber-Zionist snake who funds cuckservative Republicans.

    his daily newspapers in Israel call immigrants into Israel "invaders", but he demands that all his stooges for US office support open borders for the US.

    but this is the mantra of the whole neoconservative apparatus! (and basically most Jews everywhere) They demand fealty to Israel in all things, including unlimited supplies of America's blood and treasure and Eternal WarⓊ fought against Israel's well-earned enemies, even as we're (US and Europe) reeling under the madness of unlimited immigration, which they also demand.

    There are only a few Jewish conservatives who will allow that perhaps America doesn't have to have open borders. Like Michael Savage for instance. But most of them all demand Jewish racial supremacism for Israel while simultaneously demanding that Europe and all white nations commit ethnic suicide.

    They aren't hard to come by. It's a greater challenge to find those few Jews who agree that perhaps Israel should be more conciliatory and that the nations of the West are entitled to borders. Like Mr. Unz here, for instance.

    Sheldon Adelson is not a “progressive” by any stretch of the imagination. Try again.

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    from your reply to another:

    Most Jewish Democratic MOCs are in with the J Street lobby which is fairly anti-Israel as American politics goes. They support a two state solution, sharing Jerusalem, evacuating “settlements,” and providing compinsation to Palestinian (sic) refugees (sic).
     
    perhaps they do with tepid words to that effect, so long as it has no real effects on the realties on the ground

    the only thing you need to know is what the head of the DNC and anointed uber-progressive Jew, Debbie Wasserman Schultz did when it came to supporting the man who had helped exalt her to power- president Barak Obama, when Bibi came to town to humiliate him because he wasn't bellicose enough for the murderous Jewish supremacist Nazi.

    She repudiated Obama and went to the speech to show fealty to the mass-murdering war criminal Jew. Didn't she?

    and most recently, her entire machine of the progressive left, was found to be in the tank for the worst, most vile war pig hag that exists on this bedeviled planet. And dedicated to destroying the efforts of the one Jew who doesn't seem committed to endless war.

    so all the lying words to the contrary, when it comes down to it, these so-called progressive Jews that are so committed to peace, turn out to by just more lying, war-mongering shills for Zion, huh?
  55. @unit472
    Muslims are at war with non Muslims everywhere. Hindus, Jews, Christians even other Muslims. Its a barbaric, atavistic faith that cannot co-exist with others.

    “atavistic faith that cannot co-exist with others” – They seem to be doing OK for the last 1400 years as minorities as well as a majority that was quite tolerant to other minorities like Jews and Christians. Problems started after WWII when muslim countries became the playground for USA and Soviet Union and when Israel was created.

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    They seem to be doing OK for the last 1400 years as minorities as well as a majority that was quite tolerant to other minorities
     
    Like how the Ottoman Empire kidnapped and enslaved 50 million Europeans? Or how it genocided the Armenians and Assyrian Christians? How about how the Islamic invaders of India used to boil Sikhs in oil and convert Buddhists and Hindus* at knifepoint? How about starting the African slave trade, and continuing it to this day in Mauretania and Sudan?

    All the US and Israel's fault in your mind, I'm sure, even all of the things that happened before either even existed.

    *such as Rehmat's grandparents
  56. @5371
    Every single Jewish Democratic member of Congress supports Israeli nationalism but not American nationalism. (I have no idea what "Western nationalism" might be.)

    Every single Jewish Democratic member of Congress supports Israeli nationalism but not American nationalism

    pretty sure that includes every Jewish Republican member of congress too (or supreme court justice or every other office, like “Homeland” Security, for instance)

    perhaps the most notorious being the execrable Eric Cantor, whose commitment to open borders was so congenitally intertwined with his identity and politics, that the only way his constituents could extricate it was to send his duplicitous arse packing.

    my question is, are their any Jewish congressmen (or judges or media executives or neocons or casino owners or bankers, etc..) who support closing the borders?

    from what it seems to me, every single Jewish member of congress demands Israel’s absolute right to defend itself (slaughter Palestinian children en masse for the fun and amusement of it and steal their neighbor’s land like the Golan) while concurrently demanding that the US keep its borders open to radicalized Muslims fleeing the assorted atrocities the neocons are waging on their lands and families (and basically, everybody else).

    it’s a two sided sword

    ethnic nationalism and racial supremacy for Israel- including ethnic cleansing (and torture and wanton slaughter) of the owners of the land

    +

    white ethnic suicide for the US (and all Western nations [especially Germany!])

    Zionism means both things simultaneously

    and our Jewish congress critters have the voting records to prove it

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  57. @5371
    He's no Jew, he's a shape-shifting troll.

    He is strangely masochistically honest in other matters, such as: self-acknowledged ugliness of physical appearance, endowment from the shallow end of the gene pool and a lack of female suitors.

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    That all belongs to the Jewish anti-hero part that he's playing.
  58. @5371
    Every single Jewish Democratic member of Congress supports Israeli nationalism but not American nationalism. (I have no idea what "Western nationalism" might be.)

    There are more than a few, a large number in fact, who do not support the expansionist state, yet remain petrified [for a complex set of reasons one supposes] to state so publicly.

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  59. @Greasy William

    They fear secular Arabs who can build cities and use technology. They fear modern Muslims like Iranians who can do engineering and build nuclear plants.
     
    There are no such Arab or Muslim states and there never have been nor will there be. Iran is a backwards shit hole, as was Syria even before the war. Nasser's Egypt was as secular as could be and had German scientists and Soviet money pumping it up and it still sucked balls. Saddam's Iraq managed to lose a war against 13 year old Iranian boys with pitch forks.

    As for Israel being responsible for the problems in the Middle East, it is really getting tiring for me to have to keep explaining this, but here it is again:

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    As for the accusation that we have gravely harmed the peoples of the Arab/Islamic world: Damn right we have. Go ask the 10s of thousands of children who were burned alive in Dresden what happens to a nation that makes war on G-d's Chosen People.

    You attack us, you die. Your children die. There will be no mercy. It has always been that way and always will be. But I guess you goyim are slow learners, so we just keep teaching you the same lessons over and over again.

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator.

    This made up poopy mini god creator, resides only in your sicko Jew brain – it is a figment of your imagination.

    Rational people know better. Thieving is bad – it always has been bad – it will always be bad. No pretend god can make thieving OK.

    We humans can achieve something better then the law of the jungle.

    p.s. Your comments need a diaper and wipes.

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  60. @Greasy William

    They fear secular Arabs who can build cities and use technology. They fear modern Muslims like Iranians who can do engineering and build nuclear plants.
     
    There are no such Arab or Muslim states and there never have been nor will there be. Iran is a backwards shit hole, as was Syria even before the war. Nasser's Egypt was as secular as could be and had German scientists and Soviet money pumping it up and it still sucked balls. Saddam's Iraq managed to lose a war against 13 year old Iranian boys with pitch forks.

    As for Israel being responsible for the problems in the Middle East, it is really getting tiring for me to have to keep explaining this, but here it is again:

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    As for the accusation that we have gravely harmed the peoples of the Arab/Islamic world: Damn right we have. Go ask the 10s of thousands of children who were burned alive in Dresden what happens to a nation that makes war on G-d's Chosen People.

    You attack us, you die. Your children die. There will be no mercy. It has always been that way and always will be. But I guess you goyim are slow learners, so we just keep teaching you the same lessons over and over again.

    Iran is a backwards shit hole, (1) as was Syria even before the war. Nasser’s Egypt was as secular as could be and had German scientists (2) and Soviet money (3) pumping it up and it still sucked balls. Saddam’s Iraq managed to lose a war (4) against 13 year old Iranian boys with pitch forks.

    (1) If Iran is such a “backwards shit hole,” why are Jews in Israel and in USA so orgasmic to overthrow and control it? Is it that Esther thang? God does not operate in the Book of Esther; ergo, God did not give Iran to Jews, so suck it up and get the message: Iran is for Iranians, not for zionist Jews.

    (2) Where would Jews be without Germans? Arthur Ruppin and the Production of the Modern Hebrew Culture Ruppin was born and educated in Germany. He brought German organization, German institutions, even German town-planning to Palestine and created the “new Jew” to fit into the German framework he transplanted to Palestine.

    (3) wrt to Egypt’s dependence on German scientists, how about Jewish Israel’s dependence on Russian brainpower? (Not to mention the numerous demands Israelis place on American scientists whereby Israelis share in almost all American research activity.)

    And of course there was the huge influx of Russian olim. We were the recipients, the beneficiaries, of much of the top talent of a nation of 200 million people – we, in our country of then six million people. It was an incredible injection of human capital. And we used it so well. There were, for example, large numbers of civil and mechanical engineers, and what we needed were electrical engineers. Well, for $2,000 per person, we trained engineers who became worth $200,000. It was a 100-fold return on investment. http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/They-tried-to-kill-us-we-won-now-were-changing-the-world

    (4) ha- ha ha-ha-ha. How ’bout dem Izzies getting their balls wrapped up in pink ribbons and handed to them by a bunch of Hezzie irregulars, Jews in their sooper-dooper tanks, Hezbollah employing wit and courage.

    As for the Dresden thing — no Jew risked his butt to kill innocent people. Jews paid off or blackmailed the dumbfucks who carried out that crime against humanity. Then Jews had the balls to cry VICTIM!

    In short, Greasy, you got nothin. Just a loud and ugly mouth.

    Crawl back under your rock.

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  61. @Pandos
    Can you show me the deed?

    Just because you can sing a song about the land doesn't mean the Jews aren't/ weren't just stealing the common heritage of mankind. Maybe Abraham was justifying theft, murder and war.

    Well on this one, Greasy is on firm ground. Bereshit 15:18 [Genesis 15:18].

    Although he and I have a disagreement on the complete list of owners of that deed.

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  62. @biz
    Sheldon Adelson is not a "progressive" by any stretch of the imagination. Try again.

    from your reply to another:

    Most Jewish Democratic MOCs are in with the J Street lobby which is fairly anti-Israel as American politics goes. They support a two state solution, sharing Jerusalem, evacuating “settlements,” and providing compinsation to Palestinian (sic) refugees (sic).

    perhaps they do with tepid words to that effect, so long as it has no real effects on the realties on the ground

    the only thing you need to know is what the head of the DNC and anointed uber-progressive Jew, Debbie Wasserman Schultz did when it came to supporting the man who had helped exalt her to power- president Barak Obama, when Bibi came to town to humiliate him because he wasn’t bellicose enough for the murderous Jewish supremacist Nazi.

    She repudiated Obama and went to the speech to show fealty to the mass-murdering war criminal Jew. Didn’t she?

    and most recently, her entire machine of the progressive left, was found to be in the tank for the worst, most vile war pig hag that exists on this bedeviled planet. And dedicated to destroying the efforts of the one Jew who doesn’t seem committed to endless war.

    so all the lying words to the contrary, when it comes down to it, these so-called progressive Jews that are so committed to peace, turn out to by just more lying, war-mongering shills for Zion, huh?

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    Could there be reasons that have nothing to do with Israel for not suppoorting Bernie Sanders?
  63. @SolontoCroesus
    wow.

    Neoconservative-ism and its entire “war on terror” was created to perpetuate and consolidate Israels criminal breaches, and fool the US into committing massive criminal breaches too (the Iraq war)…..not its mere survival.

    This argument becomes clear, in a highly coherent way, once you understand that the war on terror was born, first and foremost ,out of Israels desire to KEEP most of the West bank, and all of the Golan Heights, in defiance of international law

    Which is a call to war.

    A call to war , mind you, not just against the Muslim world, but against the entire international governing legal structure instituted after WWII.


    Alexander, what an extraordinary acute analysis; you shifted the paradigm by at least 85%.

    I say only 85% firstly, because I don't want to be discouraging and say only 50%, but I do believe your analysis does not account for the totality of the zionist (neoconservative) project in creating Israel.

    As much as I hate to give grmbl an ounce of satisfaction, he/she/it is probably -- hopefully -- correct: Linh Dinh's pull-no-punches essay will open the door to those who question ordained narratives, and that is all for the better: what the American people need first and foremost is the confidence to discover, acknowledge and assert history in its full historic reality.

    Alexander, in my understanding of events and of the timeline of the zionist, it started well before World War II; Israel did not come into being because of The Holocaust, where that proper noun refers to what is claimed to be a unique-in-all-the-world act of violence against Jews. Rather, I believe the timeline and an accurate rendering of historical events as they happened reveals that millions of other peoples, primarily Russians and Germans, as well as other European Christians, were subject to a holocaust to facilitate the Jewish take-over of the lands formerly inhabited by Palestinians, and to coerce the "in-gathering of the diaspora," from those European lands; and to either eliminate or punish those Jews of the diaspora who were either unsuitable or unwilling to migrate to Palestine.

    In other words, Alexander, (and I suspect you will reject this notion, but think about it), some of the the events of World War I, and almost all subsequent events from the ending of that war, thru the inter-war period; the period from 1933 to 1945, and beyond, were cut from the same cloth as your argument bout the neoconservative war on terror:

    This argument becomes clear, in a highly coherent way, once you understand that the war on terror World War I, the Balfour Declaration, the Versailles Treaty, zionist colonizing activities 1918 - 1948; Jewish activities leading to-, during, and after World War II were born, first and foremost ,out of Israels desire to KEEP TAKE most of the West bank, and all of the Golan Heights, (and even more) in defiance of international law

    Which is a call to war.
     
    As for your next statement:

    A call to war , mind you, not just against the Muslim world, but against the entire international governing legal structure instituted after WWII.
     
    I argue that it is a fundamental mistake to view WWII as an ending point to one era and the inflection point initiating a new "international structure;" rather, WWII is on the same strategic continuum as the zionist/neoconservative- conceived and branded global war on terror; WWII had the same goals then as GWOT has now; GWOT is the logical extension of the same agenda -- to establish and maintain (Anglo)-zionist dominance over all of Palestine as a "homeland exclusively for Jews," as regards lands in the Levant; and financial/economic and political hegemonic dominance by the Anglo- world, with which Jews include themselves, over much of the rest of the world.

    Pass the popcorn.

    PS I applaud Linh Dinh's courage in writing as he did. He gives others confidence that what they perceive as real is an essential and legitimate contribution to the national dialog.

    Hi S2C,

    You are correct.

    I do reject the notion.

    None of the international laws created after WWII, the Nuremberg Trials, and the Geneva conventions of 1949 allow for the taking of territory through force.

    Israel as a nation state is recognized by the vast majority of countries in the world.

    Israels land grabbing (beyond the green line) of Palestinian territory,is rejected by all the countries of the world, with few exceptions.

    Israels annexation of the Golan heights is rejected by all the countries of the world with few exceptions.

    (although there might be one more exception to both, after the next US election)

    But be that as it may, nobody on earth seems to have the power to stop Israel from taking the land if it wants to.

    So that is where we are.

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    a few examples of lands taken by conquest since ww2 :
    chinese occupation of tibet . 1million casualties.
    indonesian occuption of papua. 500,000 casualties.
    indonesian occupation of timor. 300,000 casualties .
    moroccan occupation of western sahara.30,000 casualties.
    turkish occupation of cyprus. 4,000 casualties.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    So, Alexander, am I correct in assuming that you believe that zionists who formulated policy and carried it out to create the Jewish state in Palestine were categorically different and distinct from the zionists who are, today, "land grabbing Palestinian territory . . . and the Golan?"

    Am I correct in assuming that you believe that the goals, strategy and tactics of zionists pre- 1967 (or pre-Nuremberg and Geneva Conventions 1949) were categorically different and distinct from those carried out by zionists today?

    In your estimation, when did zionists pick up the nasty habits that became manifest with taking the Golan, and illegitimately expanding into Palestinian territory?
    , @Art

    But be that as it may, nobody on earth seems to have the power to stop Israel from taking the land if it wants to.

    So that is where we are.
     
    Sadly what you say is true - but it is no over - much more evil is to come.

    The whole big money, big government official political world is going to stand by and watch.

    But every day the stench grows - and ordinary people are smelling it.

    It will never be over - the grievous shameful Stain of Palestine will always be with the Jew.

    p.s. The Big Jew think that they can con the whole world forever. The Little Jew will follow to the end.
  64. @Verymuchalive
    Even if Zionism, the Neocons and the State of Israel had never existed, there would still be the overwhelming problem caused by Muslim wars, terrorism and violence. Islam is the Religion of Violence and has been from its inception. Jihad has waxed and waned, independently of events outwith Islamic countries, but it has always been present in one form or the other.
    Once Europeans had confidence in their beliefs and culture to deal with this in a forceful manner. Los Reyes Cattolicos conquered Granada and the Moors were expelled from Spain shortly thereafter. Catherine the Great sorted out the Crimean Tartars and stopped their slave trading. The list of such actions is long.
    Now very many Europeans and other Westerners have lost their confidence in their beliefs and culture. Their politicians are for the most part tools of a supranational elite. In this parlous state, they are ill-equipped to deal with the upsurge of Muslim wars and immigration.
    Action must be multi-facetted. Certainly we must vote for people who repudiate and oppose the Neocons and Zionism. But more importantly, they must prevent any further non-white and especially Muslim Immigration. Forceful action must be taken to expel as many Muslims as possible. Profession of Islamic terrorism or Jihad will be a crime and those who profess it will lose their citizenship and be expelled.
    The Zionists and Neocons are mere jackals on the body politic. Removing them from political influence will be of no avail unless we deal with the root causes.

    Some people really seem to want war and more war, especially when it is profitable to thm. That has always existed and some seem to actually desire that it always be that way.
    No, Islam was NOT a problem to the United States until the United States and some of its “allies” (I use the word facetiously) made it one. The first Iranian social worker, who was educated in the U.S. during WWII, wrote that she admired many things about us, such as our unity that did not depend on family ties but was across all regions and peoples; but she was shocked at our tendency to waste, which she first saw when they threw enough fish off the ship she was on, to feed several villages for days. She said nobody loved the U.S. more than Iran in those days before the Mossadegh overthrow (CIA, led by Kermit Roosevelt, as I recall). To her it was analgous to wasting good will for selfish profit that was bad for all in the long run.

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    No, Islam was NOT a problem to the United States until the United States and some of its “allies” (I use the word facetiously) made it one.
     
    Not a problem, except for the minor details such as the Ottoman and Barbary enslavement of 50 million Christian Europeans, the genocide of Christian Assyrians and Armenians, torturing the Sikh gurus to death, demolishing most of the ancient Hindu and Buddhist temples, starting (and still doing) the African slave trade, killing 10% of the world population in Tamerlane's conquests, kidnapping and enslaving American sailors in Tripoli, etc.
    , @Verymuchalive
    How many Muslims were there in America in WWII. Very few. As in many countries, they would be mainly professionals or students. In those days, they would be v largely secular in outlook. No mosques in sight.
    Fast forward 30 or 40 years, and we get much more representative Muslims. We get the mosques, the call for sharia law and then the jihadis.
    The more Muslims you let into your country, the more the problem grows.
  65. @Sam Shama
    He is strangely masochistically honest in other matters, such as: self-acknowledged ugliness of physical appearance, endowment from the shallow end of the gene pool and a lack of female suitors.

    That all belongs to the Jewish anti-hero part that he’s playing.

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  66. @biz
    You are incorrect. Most Jewish Democratic MOCs are in with the J Street lobby which is fairly anti-Israel as American politics goes. They support a two state solution, sharing Jerusalem, evacuating "settlements," and providing compinsation to Palestinian (sic) refugees (sic).

    I am correct. Anyone who calls for Israel to remain a Jewish state with a “right of return” for anyone approved as a Jew from anywhere in the world is by definition an Israeli nationalist, even if some of them do not at present support continued unlimited expansion by Israel and the immediate expulsion of all the conquered peoples from its territory. In the case of no other nationalism, after all, do we reserve the name of nationalist only for the most extreme representatives of that ideology.

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    @alexander
    Hi S2C,


    You are correct.

    I do reject the notion.

    None of the international laws created after WWII, the Nuremberg Trials, and the Geneva conventions of 1949 allow for the taking of territory through force.

    Israel as a nation state is recognized by the vast majority of countries in the world.

    Israels land grabbing (beyond the green line) of Palestinian territory,is rejected by all the countries of the world, with few exceptions.

    Israels annexation of the Golan heights is rejected by all the countries of the world with few exceptions.

    (although there might be one more exception to both, after the next US election)

    But be that as it may, nobody on earth seems to have the power to stop Israel from taking the land if it wants to.

    So that is where we are.

    a few examples of lands taken by conquest since ww2 :
    chinese occupation of tibet . 1million casualties.
    indonesian occuption of papua. 500,000 casualties.
    indonesian occupation of timor. 300,000 casualties .
    moroccan occupation of western sahara.30,000 casualties.
    turkish occupation of cyprus. 4,000 casualties.

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    a few examples of lands taken by conquest since ww2 :
    chinese occupation of tibet . 1million casualties.
    indonesian occuption of papua. 500,000 casualties.
    indonesian occupation of timor. 300,000 casualties .
    moroccan occupation of western sahara.30,000 casualties.
    turkish occupation of cyprus. 4,000 casualties.
     
    So what?

    What kind of a low life culture justifies wrong doing, because others have done it?

    "Mommy mommy - I want to kill Palestinians and steal their things."

    "It's OK little David - the evil Indonesians did it!"

    p.s. These Jews give us one low life backwards argument after another.

  68. @grmbl
    Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won't the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?

    Alright, time for another 100+ comments thread featuring rampant holocaust denial and Trutherism. Yeeee haw!

    grmbl,

    I believe it would be more helpful, and add to the discussion, if you would point out the areas of disagreement between the author and yourself. That way an interesting discussion would ensue.

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  69. @utu
    "atavistic faith that cannot co-exist with others" - They seem to be doing OK for the last 1400 years as minorities as well as a majority that was quite tolerant to other minorities like Jews and Christians. Problems started after WWII when muslim countries became the playground for USA and Soviet Union and when Israel was created.

    They seem to be doing OK for the last 1400 years as minorities as well as a majority that was quite tolerant to other minorities

    Like how the Ottoman Empire kidnapped and enslaved 50 million Europeans? Or how it genocided the Armenians and Assyrian Christians? How about how the Islamic invaders of India used to boil Sikhs in oil and convert Buddhists and Hindus* at knifepoint? How about starting the African slave trade, and continuing it to this day in Mauretania and Sudan?

    All the US and Israel’s fault in your mind, I’m sure, even all of the things that happened before either even existed.

    *such as Rehmat’s grandparents

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    Are you a woman or a Jew? Your outlook at history is very hysterical.
  70. @biz

    Many progressive Jews support massive immigration in the West, but not Israel. They criticize nationalism in the West, but not Israel.
     
    Can you cite one individual that actually has this viewpoint? It is a common trope but I don't think I've ever actually seen it supported. Links to quotes would be nice - find a progressive Jewish person who has expressed support for massive immigration to the West and also closed borders for Israel, or has supported Israeli nationalism but not Western nationalism.

    The article pointed out the words and actions of Hungarian Jew George Soros, with quotations. He is one source openly calling for the end of European Christian culture (what’s left of it, anyway). Another would be that sterling character Mark Zuckerberg.

    FYI: http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/07/game-over-europe-a-colour-revolution-is-coming/

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    But Soros is not an Israel supporter. Remember the original claim - that millions of "progressive Jews" support open borders for the West but closed borders for Israel.
  71. @dcite
    Some people really seem to want war and more war, especially when it is profitable to thm. That has always existed and some seem to actually desire that it always be that way.
    No, Islam was NOT a problem to the United States until the United States and some of its "allies" (I use the word facetiously) made it one. The first Iranian social worker, who was educated in the U.S. during WWII, wrote that she admired many things about us, such as our unity that did not depend on family ties but was across all regions and peoples; but she was shocked at our tendency to waste, which she first saw when they threw enough fish off the ship she was on, to feed several villages for days. She said nobody loved the U.S. more than Iran in those days before the Mossadegh overthrow (CIA, led by Kermit Roosevelt, as I recall). To her it was analgous to wasting good will for selfish profit that was bad for all in the long run.

    No, Islam was NOT a problem to the United States until the United States and some of its “allies” (I use the word facetiously) made it one.

    Not a problem, except for the minor details such as the Ottoman and Barbary enslavement of 50 million Christian Europeans, the genocide of Christian Assyrians and Armenians, torturing the Sikh gurus to death, demolishing most of the ancient Hindu and Buddhist temples, starting (and still doing) the African slave trade, killing 10% of the world population in Tamerlane’s conquests, kidnapping and enslaving American sailors in Tripoli, etc.

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  72. @alexander
    Hi S2C,


    You are correct.

    I do reject the notion.

    None of the international laws created after WWII, the Nuremberg Trials, and the Geneva conventions of 1949 allow for the taking of territory through force.

    Israel as a nation state is recognized by the vast majority of countries in the world.

    Israels land grabbing (beyond the green line) of Palestinian territory,is rejected by all the countries of the world, with few exceptions.

    Israels annexation of the Golan heights is rejected by all the countries of the world with few exceptions.

    (although there might be one more exception to both, after the next US election)

    But be that as it may, nobody on earth seems to have the power to stop Israel from taking the land if it wants to.

    So that is where we are.

    So, Alexander, am I correct in assuming that you believe that zionists who formulated policy and carried it out to create the Jewish state in Palestine were categorically different and distinct from the zionists who are, today, “land grabbing Palestinian territory . . . and the Golan?”

    Am I correct in assuming that you believe that the goals, strategy and tactics of zionists pre- 1967 (or pre-Nuremberg and Geneva Conventions 1949) were categorically different and distinct from those carried out by zionists today?

    In your estimation, when did zionists pick up the nasty habits that became manifest with taking the Golan, and illegitimately expanding into Palestinian territory?

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    For the record,

    The initial argument for seizing the territories was to use them as negotiating chips in having Israels neighbors accept the existence of the state of Israel, and not attack it.

    The seized territories would be returned after a negotiated Peace deal came to fruition (a la Egypt /Sinai).

    Lo and behold, you have the 2002 Arab peace initiative which agreed to just such a demand.

    And what happened with it ?...it was left outside Israels door...... like a cold and smelly fish.

    Lets agree on something ,S2C, if Israel truly wanted peace...it would have a "peace plan".

    I mean come on, .....wouldn't you , if you wanted peace ?

  73. @Art

    Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won’t the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?
     
    You joke - but there is a great stain, a great stench swirling around the Jews.

    It is Palestine - the theft of Palestinian property from its owners – is odious - it is sickening to all good people.

    It is not only the Palestinian people - the process itself has engulfed the whole ME and coerced the Western world. The death and disruption already cause by Israel, exceeds what happened in WWII to the Jews. And of course the evil is not over – it is only at a midpoint.

    The Stain of Palestine is growing by the day on the Jew.

    There was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until the 1960s. Nobody considered themselves to be one before that. It is a fake ethnicity created to fool gullible Westerners such as yourself.

    There is no Israeli-Palestinian conflict. There is an Israeli-Arab conflict, in which the Arabs are desperate to recolonize the 1% of the Middle East that Jews have self-government in which not coincidentally is the only Middle Eastern country with an advanced economy and functioning democracy. But gullible leftist Westerners like you believe the myths.

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    There was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until the 1960s.
     
    Interesting co-incidence.

    David Engel introduces a series of lectures titled "Understanding The Holocaust" by explaining that before about 1961, there was no such thing as "THE Holocaust." No one paid much attention to what is now called by a proper noun.
    , @Art
    There was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until the 1960s.

    That is totally false. There was a land of Palestine - but not a state of Palestine --- as was the historical case with most Arab lands.

    I have a 1910 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (perhaps the finest collection of published knowledge ever). It has 25 pages on Palestine. It was a land – not a nation.

    In the last 2,000 years Palestine has been ruled by some bad people – but none worse than the current Jews. Families evolved in Palestine for a thousand years and their property was never confiscated by their rulers – that is until the Jews.

    The Stain of Palestine will shame the Jews forever.
  74. @biz

    They seem to be doing OK for the last 1400 years as minorities as well as a majority that was quite tolerant to other minorities
     
    Like how the Ottoman Empire kidnapped and enslaved 50 million Europeans? Or how it genocided the Armenians and Assyrian Christians? How about how the Islamic invaders of India used to boil Sikhs in oil and convert Buddhists and Hindus* at knifepoint? How about starting the African slave trade, and continuing it to this day in Mauretania and Sudan?

    All the US and Israel's fault in your mind, I'm sure, even all of the things that happened before either even existed.

    *such as Rehmat's grandparents

    Are you a woman or a Jew? Your outlook at history is very hysterical.

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  75. @anon
    a few examples of lands taken by conquest since ww2 :
    chinese occupation of tibet . 1million casualties.
    indonesian occuption of papua. 500,000 casualties.
    indonesian occupation of timor. 300,000 casualties .
    moroccan occupation of western sahara.30,000 casualties.
    turkish occupation of cyprus. 4,000 casualties.

    a few examples of lands taken by conquest since ww2 :
    chinese occupation of tibet . 1million casualties.
    indonesian occuption of papua. 500,000 casualties.
    indonesian occupation of timor. 300,000 casualties .
    moroccan occupation of western sahara.30,000 casualties.
    turkish occupation of cyprus. 4,000 casualties.

    So what?

    What kind of a low life culture justifies wrong doing, because others have done it?

    “Mommy mommy – I want to kill Palestinians and steal their things.”

    “It’s OK little David – the evil Indonesians did it!”

    p.s. These Jews give us one low life backwards argument after another.

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    • Replies: @anon
    doesnt explain why you only care about the only conflict in the world involving jews , while ignoring the dozens involving muslims. the casualty count is 22,000 on the palestinian side of the conflict since 1967. papuan casualties are at 500,000 , tibetean casualties over a million, darfur casualties over a million , heck even russia dwarfs them with 150,000 chechen casualties.
  76. @SolontoCroesus
    So, Alexander, am I correct in assuming that you believe that zionists who formulated policy and carried it out to create the Jewish state in Palestine were categorically different and distinct from the zionists who are, today, "land grabbing Palestinian territory . . . and the Golan?"

    Am I correct in assuming that you believe that the goals, strategy and tactics of zionists pre- 1967 (or pre-Nuremberg and Geneva Conventions 1949) were categorically different and distinct from those carried out by zionists today?

    In your estimation, when did zionists pick up the nasty habits that became manifest with taking the Golan, and illegitimately expanding into Palestinian territory?

    For the record,

    The initial argument for seizing the territories was to use them as negotiating chips in having Israels neighbors accept the existence of the state of Israel, and not attack it.

    The seized territories would be returned after a negotiated Peace deal came to fruition (a la Egypt /Sinai).

    Lo and behold, you have the 2002 Arab peace initiative which agreed to just such a demand.

    And what happened with it ?…it was left outside Israels door…… like a cold and smelly fish.

    Lets agree on something ,S2C, if Israel truly wanted peace…it would have a “peace plan”.

    I mean come on, …..wouldn’t you , if you wanted peace ?

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  77. @Che Guava
    You make an extremely important and valid point, but the actual emergence of Trotskyists or -ites (never having been either, I have forgotten the precise theological division on that point) as neo-cons comes after 1945, Burnham, whose Managerial Revolution, if I have the title right (I have read it), influenced Orwell's 1984, seems to have been the first.

    Floodgates opened from there.

    Before that, the Trots confined themselves to sabotage in the USSR, attacking the Comintern, and splintering themseles umpteen times. Look up 'Fourth International', skip the Wikipedia link, view the many groups with so few members and such stupid ideas. They feed into, and are part of, much of the idiocy of today.

    Readers of the remainder of my post are likely to disagree, but despite Stalin's many faillngs and cruel policiesl , he was riding the tiger of the ancestors of the neocons, and did the best job he was able to in the situation, in the end, wanted to depose them, they struck back, Stalin was dead, Jews (probably backed by the CIA) gradually rose again in the party, idiot Gorbachev allowed it, soon after, they raped the economy.

    Outright theft unde Yeltsin.

    The thieves were all dual-nationals or a combo, US, Israeli, USSR.

    ... and coordinated from Israel and the US.

    Che Guava writes, “Trotskyists or -ites (never having been either, I have forgotten the precise theological division on that point).” I believe the latter was actually a disparaging locution spread by the CP; compare Hitlerite and McCarthyite.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    Your comment has zero semantic content, no point, and no logic.
    , @Che Guava
    You are wrong, i had enough conversation with Trotsky idiots overseas to know that they put much emphasis on the 'ite' or 'ist'division, I have no idea what it is supposed to mean.

    I can walk about 300 or 400 metres from my flat, there is a building owned by a Trot business, I do not know if it is 'ite' or 'ist', but a friend whose father is a big man around town, taught me some of the old jocular ways of reference to the aging fake revolutionaries there.

    Trots are always undermining, always been the case. No doubt the CIA and earlier bodies supported their groups.
    Shame that they have metastasised into cultural destruction, but then
    again, that is precisely what Bronstein (Trotsky) always dreamed of, when he wasn't mass-murdering people.
    , @Che Guava
    You are probably correct, I never heard the 'ite/ist' about Trots from CPUSSR or CPC aligned people overseas

    Did hear it from Trots, always to minuscule groups their own miniscule group didn't like.

    In Japan, the JCP is the most honest party (former leader Suwa made a show of writing on theory, but the main ones were attacking the CPUSSR, to be cozy with the CPC).

    They are probably the most honest of the parties now, but almost all of the candidates are lawyers. I see the posters, and I think 'Why can you not find candidates other than lawyers?'

    Lawyer here is very different to lawyer in USA, anybody can study and take the exams, as it is not in most western countries now, only cheap university study, I hear most had similar systems before, but gone now.
  78. @Greasy William

    They fear secular Arabs who can build cities and use technology. They fear modern Muslims like Iranians who can do engineering and build nuclear plants.
     
    There are no such Arab or Muslim states and there never have been nor will there be. Iran is a backwards shit hole, as was Syria even before the war. Nasser's Egypt was as secular as could be and had German scientists and Soviet money pumping it up and it still sucked balls. Saddam's Iraq managed to lose a war against 13 year old Iranian boys with pitch forks.

    As for Israel being responsible for the problems in the Middle East, it is really getting tiring for me to have to keep explaining this, but here it is again:

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator. The Arab/Islamic world had a choice: accept Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel and have peace or resist Jewish sovereignty and have war. They chose war and it is them, not us, who are responsible for the resulting carnage.

    As for the accusation that we have gravely harmed the peoples of the Arab/Islamic world: Damn right we have. Go ask the 10s of thousands of children who were burned alive in Dresden what happens to a nation that makes war on G-d's Chosen People.

    You attack us, you die. Your children die. There will be no mercy. It has always been that way and always will be. But I guess you goyim are slow learners, so we just keep teaching you the same lessons over and over again.

    The entirety of the Land of Israel was given exclusively to the Jewish people by the Creator.

    How convenient, eh?

    Anyway, they usual suspects broke the covenant, so they got kicked outta Paradise, again. They can’t reposses it until the Messiah comes, and “they” don’t think JC was the real deal.Or did you miss that part? (Or are you just trying out a little sarcasm for humor’s sake?)

    For those who still have not received the message, (especially the “Christian” Zionist moron contingent), here’s what I’m talking about; read it and learn sumpin.:

    “ To [my grandfather] Zionism was counterfeit Judaism and the Zionists charlatans. His Orthodox belief held that the re-establishment of Israel was a matter of God in the messianic future. [Ed note: "Future," get it?]He would have agreed with Yehoshofat Harkabi, a former chief of Israeli military intelligence, who said “The Jews always considered that the land belonged to them, but in fact it belonged to the Arabs. I would go further: I would say the original source of this conflict lies with Israel.”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/my-grandfather-sparked-my-interest-in-debate-over-zionism.html

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  79. @biz
    There was no such thing as a "Palestinian" until the 1960s. Nobody considered themselves to be one before that. It is a fake ethnicity created to fool gullible Westerners such as yourself.

    There is no Israeli-Palestinian conflict. There is an Israeli-Arab conflict, in which the Arabs are desperate to recolonize the 1% of the Middle East that Jews have self-government in which not coincidentally is the only Middle Eastern country with an advanced economy and functioning democracy. But gullible leftist Westerners like you believe the myths.

    There was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until the 1960s.

    Interesting co-incidence.

    David Engel introduces a series of lectures titled “Understanding The Holocaust” by explaining that before about 1961, there was no such thing as “THE Holocaust.” No one paid much attention to what is now called by a proper noun.

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    Consider the arrogance involved in that. Tens, if not, hundreds of millions of people were murdered in various holocausts in the twentieth century; Russians, Armenians, Cambodians, Tutsis and Chinese among many others. And yet only one (and the one with the most dubious facts to support it) gets referred to as The Holocaust.

    It's sickening.
  80. People here are dumping on Greasy William (great handle by the way) but he should actually be commended for his brutal honesty. He’s merely saying aloud what every single Jew in the world actually thinks.

    It is indeed a shocking thing to realize the depths of depraved malice and contempt that the Jew holds for the rest of humanity. Something to think about the next time they start whining about “the holocaust” or those nasty Palestinians who just won’t lie down and die.

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  81. @alexander
    Hi S2C,


    You are correct.

    I do reject the notion.

    None of the international laws created after WWII, the Nuremberg Trials, and the Geneva conventions of 1949 allow for the taking of territory through force.

    Israel as a nation state is recognized by the vast majority of countries in the world.

    Israels land grabbing (beyond the green line) of Palestinian territory,is rejected by all the countries of the world, with few exceptions.

    Israels annexation of the Golan heights is rejected by all the countries of the world with few exceptions.

    (although there might be one more exception to both, after the next US election)

    But be that as it may, nobody on earth seems to have the power to stop Israel from taking the land if it wants to.

    So that is where we are.

    But be that as it may, nobody on earth seems to have the power to stop Israel from taking the land if it wants to.

    So that is where we are.

    Sadly what you say is true – but it is no over – much more evil is to come.

    The whole big money, big government official political world is going to stand by and watch.

    But every day the stench grows – and ordinary people are smelling it.

    It will never be over – the grievous shameful Stain of Palestine will always be with the Jew.

    p.s. The Big Jew think that they can con the whole world forever. The Little Jew will follow to the end.

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  82. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Art

    a few examples of lands taken by conquest since ww2 :
    chinese occupation of tibet . 1million casualties.
    indonesian occuption of papua. 500,000 casualties.
    indonesian occupation of timor. 300,000 casualties .
    moroccan occupation of western sahara.30,000 casualties.
    turkish occupation of cyprus. 4,000 casualties.
     
    So what?

    What kind of a low life culture justifies wrong doing, because others have done it?

    "Mommy mommy - I want to kill Palestinians and steal their things."

    "It's OK little David - the evil Indonesians did it!"

    p.s. These Jews give us one low life backwards argument after another.

    doesnt explain why you only care about the only conflict in the world involving jews , while ignoring the dozens involving muslims. the casualty count is 22,000 on the palestinian side of the conflict since 1967. papuan casualties are at 500,000 , tibetean casualties over a million, darfur casualties over a million , heck even russia dwarfs them with 150,000 chechen casualties.

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    • Replies: @Art

    doesnt explain why you only care about the only conflict in the world involving jews , while ignoring the dozens involving muslims. the casualty count is 22,000 on the palestinian side of the conflict since 1967. papuan casualties are at 500,000
     
    You never seem to get it - one wrong never ever justifies another wrong.

    The Israel enterprise started in 1948 - a lot of people have died sense then. People in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, and America are dead because of the Israel enterprise. There is much more to come.

    The culmination of all these deaths are greater than the WWII Jew deaths.

    The Stain of Palestine grows by the day – Jews cannot escape it.
  83. @SolontoCroesus

    There was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until the 1960s.
     
    Interesting co-incidence.

    David Engel introduces a series of lectures titled "Understanding The Holocaust" by explaining that before about 1961, there was no such thing as "THE Holocaust." No one paid much attention to what is now called by a proper noun.

    Consider the arrogance involved in that. Tens, if not, hundreds of millions of people were murdered in various holocausts in the twentieth century; Russians, Armenians, Cambodians, Tutsis and Chinese among many others. And yet only one (and the one with the most dubious facts to support it) gets referred to as The Holocaust.

    It’s sickening.

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  84. @biz
    There was no such thing as a "Palestinian" until the 1960s. Nobody considered themselves to be one before that. It is a fake ethnicity created to fool gullible Westerners such as yourself.

    There is no Israeli-Palestinian conflict. There is an Israeli-Arab conflict, in which the Arabs are desperate to recolonize the 1% of the Middle East that Jews have self-government in which not coincidentally is the only Middle Eastern country with an advanced economy and functioning democracy. But gullible leftist Westerners like you believe the myths.

    There was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until the 1960s.

    That is totally false. There was a land of Palestine – but not a state of Palestine — as was the historical case with most Arab lands.

    I have a 1910 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (perhaps the finest collection of published knowledge ever). It has 25 pages on Palestine. It was a land – not a nation.

    In the last 2,000 years Palestine has been ruled by some bad people – but none worse than the current Jews. Families evolved in Palestine for a thousand years and their property was never confiscated by their rulers – that is until the Jews.

    The Stain of Palestine will shame the Jews forever.

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    • Replies: @anon

    In the last 2,000 years Palestine has been ruled by some bad people – but none worse than the current Jews.
     
    Palestine was ruled for a few hundred years by the Ottoman Turks. The Ottoman Turks committed genocide on Armenians with 2 million killed . Current day Ottoman Turkey is illegal occupying Cyprus. In the entirety of the Israel/Arab conflict since 1967 , there have been 22,000 palestinians killed. Seems to me Ottoman Turks have killed 1,780,000 more people than Israel has. Thats just one example.
    , @hbm
    Jews have a particular beef with the notion of Palestine-- the name itself, as it was given to the region by Hadrian after he expelled the Jews in 135AD, as a consequence of what would be the last Jewish uprising against Rome. Hadrian expelled the Jews, built a Temple to Jupiter on the Temple Mount and re-named the region after his own Indo-European ancestors, the Philistines. This is an ethnomythological-historical affront to Jews, and is another reason they reject that Palestine was ever a "real place".
    , @biz
    I said there were no Palestinians before 1960 - which is true. Sure, there was a geographic area called Palestine under the Ottomans and British.

    But there were no Palestinians. Nobody considered themselves to be that ethnicity, which was invented in the 1960s or 1970s solely to make it seem like the Jews of the Middle East were up against an equally small people rather than the 200 million Arabs. But it was all fake and Arabs admit that when they are talking among themselves and not for gullible Western leftists such as yourself.

    Before the 1960s a "Palestinian" meant a Jew.
    The Palestine National Football team was Jewish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine_national_football_team

    The Palestine Post was a Jewish newspaper: http://web.nli.org.il/sites/JPress/English/Pages/Palestine-Post.aspx
    etc.
  85. @dcite
    Some people really seem to want war and more war, especially when it is profitable to thm. That has always existed and some seem to actually desire that it always be that way.
    No, Islam was NOT a problem to the United States until the United States and some of its "allies" (I use the word facetiously) made it one. The first Iranian social worker, who was educated in the U.S. during WWII, wrote that she admired many things about us, such as our unity that did not depend on family ties but was across all regions and peoples; but she was shocked at our tendency to waste, which she first saw when they threw enough fish off the ship she was on, to feed several villages for days. She said nobody loved the U.S. more than Iran in those days before the Mossadegh overthrow (CIA, led by Kermit Roosevelt, as I recall). To her it was analgous to wasting good will for selfish profit that was bad for all in the long run.

    How many Muslims were there in America in WWII. Very few. As in many countries, they would be mainly professionals or students. In those days, they would be v largely secular in outlook. No mosques in sight.
    Fast forward 30 or 40 years, and we get much more representative Muslims. We get the mosques, the call for sharia law and then the jihadis.
    The more Muslims you let into your country, the more the problem grows.

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  86. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Art
    There was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until the 1960s.

    That is totally false. There was a land of Palestine - but not a state of Palestine --- as was the historical case with most Arab lands.

    I have a 1910 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (perhaps the finest collection of published knowledge ever). It has 25 pages on Palestine. It was a land – not a nation.

    In the last 2,000 years Palestine has been ruled by some bad people – but none worse than the current Jews. Families evolved in Palestine for a thousand years and their property was never confiscated by their rulers – that is until the Jews.

    The Stain of Palestine will shame the Jews forever.

    In the last 2,000 years Palestine has been ruled by some bad people – but none worse than the current Jews.

    Palestine was ruled for a few hundred years by the Ottoman Turks. The Ottoman Turks committed genocide on Armenians with 2 million killed . Current day Ottoman Turkey is illegal occupying Cyprus. In the entirety of the Israel/Arab conflict since 1967 , there have been 22,000 palestinians killed. Seems to me Ottoman Turks have killed 1,780,000 more people than Israel has. Thats just one example.

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  87. As far as I can tell, Mr. Gutjar was not the individual filming the McDonald’s. If anyone can find proof of that, I’d like to see it. Reportedly he was sheltered in a building some distance away and later took still photographs and was interviewed by local news reporters. It’s still a curious co-incidence. And if it’s more than a co-incidence, it does not indicate that it was a “false flag”. It could perhaps indicate that his wife– who apparently once served in Israeli signals intelligence– knew that the event was coming and informed her husband.

    The aim of the “War on Terror” ultimately is to keep America and the West wrapped-up with Islam, for Israel and Jewry’s benefit– whether that means destabilizing Middle Eastern enemies on its borders, or producing and importing millions of potential jihadis to rape, murder and ethnically displace Whites.

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  88. @anon
    doesnt explain why you only care about the only conflict in the world involving jews , while ignoring the dozens involving muslims. the casualty count is 22,000 on the palestinian side of the conflict since 1967. papuan casualties are at 500,000 , tibetean casualties over a million, darfur casualties over a million , heck even russia dwarfs them with 150,000 chechen casualties.

    doesnt explain why you only care about the only conflict in the world involving jews , while ignoring the dozens involving muslims. the casualty count is 22,000 on the palestinian side of the conflict since 1967. papuan casualties are at 500,000

    You never seem to get it – one wrong never ever justifies another wrong.

    The Israel enterprise started in 1948 – a lot of people have died sense then. People in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, and America are dead because of the Israel enterprise. There is much more to come.

    The culmination of all these deaths are greater than the WWII Jew deaths.

    The Stain of Palestine grows by the day – Jews cannot escape it.

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    • Replies: @anon

    You never seem to get it – one wrong never ever justifies another wrong.
     
    There is only one supposed wrong that you ever post about . If there are wrongs that are 20x (Papua) or 40 times worse (Tibet ) , why are aren't you posting 20x or 40x more about those, if you are simply a caring humanitarian ?

    The Stain of Palestine grows by the day – Jews cannot escape it.
     
    The stain of papua is 20x worse and growing and Indonesia cannot escape, the stain of Tibet is 40 times worse and growing and China cannot escape, the stain of Darfur is 40x worse and growing and Sudan cannot escape , the stain of Chechnya is 6 times worse and growing and Russia cannot escape. Is you anger and Posting career growing exponentially as well towards Indonesia ,Russia ,China, Sudan &c. ???.
  89. @Art
    There was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until the 1960s.

    That is totally false. There was a land of Palestine - but not a state of Palestine --- as was the historical case with most Arab lands.

    I have a 1910 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (perhaps the finest collection of published knowledge ever). It has 25 pages on Palestine. It was a land – not a nation.

    In the last 2,000 years Palestine has been ruled by some bad people – but none worse than the current Jews. Families evolved in Palestine for a thousand years and their property was never confiscated by their rulers – that is until the Jews.

    The Stain of Palestine will shame the Jews forever.

    Jews have a particular beef with the notion of Palestine– the name itself, as it was given to the region by Hadrian after he expelled the Jews in 135AD, as a consequence of what would be the last Jewish uprising against Rome. Hadrian expelled the Jews, built a Temple to Jupiter on the Temple Mount and re-named the region after his own Indo-European ancestors, the Philistines. This is an ethnomythological-historical affront to Jews, and is another reason they reject that Palestine was ever a “real place”.

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    • Replies: @5371
    Jews were never expelled by Hadrian or any other Roman emperor from anywhere except for a short time from the city of Jerusalem itself. There is no proof that the Philistines, if they existed, spoke an Indo-European language, and no case that they were ancestors of Hadrian himself.
  90. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Art

    doesnt explain why you only care about the only conflict in the world involving jews , while ignoring the dozens involving muslims. the casualty count is 22,000 on the palestinian side of the conflict since 1967. papuan casualties are at 500,000
     
    You never seem to get it - one wrong never ever justifies another wrong.

    The Israel enterprise started in 1948 - a lot of people have died sense then. People in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, and America are dead because of the Israel enterprise. There is much more to come.

    The culmination of all these deaths are greater than the WWII Jew deaths.

    The Stain of Palestine grows by the day – Jews cannot escape it.

    You never seem to get it – one wrong never ever justifies another wrong.

    There is only one supposed wrong that you ever post about . If there are wrongs that are 20x (Papua) or 40 times worse (Tibet ) , why are aren’t you posting 20x or 40x more about those, if you are simply a caring humanitarian ?

    The Stain of Palestine grows by the day – Jews cannot escape it.

    The stain of papua is 20x worse and growing and Indonesia cannot escape, the stain of Tibet is 40 times worse and growing and China cannot escape, the stain of Darfur is 40x worse and growing and Sudan cannot escape , the stain of Chechnya is 6 times worse and growing and Russia cannot escape. Is you anger and Posting career growing exponentially as well towards Indonesia ,Russia ,China, Sudan &c. ???.

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    • Replies: @Art

    There is only one supposed wrong that you ever post about . If there are wrongs that are 20x (Papua) or 40 times worse (Tibet ) , why are aren’t you posting 20x or 40x more about those, if you are simply a caring humanitarian ?
     
    A millions or more people have already died because of the Israel enterprise. The world is on edge because of the Israel enterprise. Many more are going to die because of the Israel enterprise.

    I hardly know where Papua is. Isn't the killing done in Papua and Tibet? How big is the Papua lobby in Washington DC?

    You are never ever going to divert attention away from the Stain of Palestine.

    p.s. We know your weaknesses, we know how hysterical you Little Jews are – we take that into account. We understand you cannot stop insulting people with you false arguments – repeating them over and over again – digging yourselves in deeper and deeper. What pain you must feel.
    , @helena
    On the other hand, it's surprising that so few British people - who rescued Jewish refugees and donated land in the middle-east - are interested in the goings-on of Israel. One would think it would be a keen interest to see how their fledgling sponsored country is coming along.
  91. >> Many progressive Jews support massive immigration in the West, but not Israel. They criticize nationalism in the West, but not Israel.

    Try selling that nonsense to the pioneers in Amona. The “progressive Jews” are foaming at the mouth to get their houses burned down. It’s the other trick they know besides riling up Ethiopian Israelis.
    Their meet-up is 972mag.com

    you should stop reading stormfront, and start reading globes.co.il/en

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  92. @anon

    You never seem to get it – one wrong never ever justifies another wrong.
     
    There is only one supposed wrong that you ever post about . If there are wrongs that are 20x (Papua) or 40 times worse (Tibet ) , why are aren't you posting 20x or 40x more about those, if you are simply a caring humanitarian ?

    The Stain of Palestine grows by the day – Jews cannot escape it.
     
    The stain of papua is 20x worse and growing and Indonesia cannot escape, the stain of Tibet is 40 times worse and growing and China cannot escape, the stain of Darfur is 40x worse and growing and Sudan cannot escape , the stain of Chechnya is 6 times worse and growing and Russia cannot escape. Is you anger and Posting career growing exponentially as well towards Indonesia ,Russia ,China, Sudan &c. ???.

    There is only one supposed wrong that you ever post about . If there are wrongs that are 20x (Papua) or 40 times worse (Tibet ) , why are aren’t you posting 20x or 40x more about those, if you are simply a caring humanitarian ?

    A millions or more people have already died because of the Israel enterprise. The world is on edge because of the Israel enterprise. Many more are going to die because of the Israel enterprise.

    I hardly know where Papua is. Isn’t the killing done in Papua and Tibet? How big is the Papua lobby in Washington DC?

    You are never ever going to divert attention away from the Stain of Palestine.

    p.s. We know your weaknesses, we know how hysterical you Little Jews are – we take that into account. We understand you cannot stop insulting people with you false arguments – repeating them over and over again – digging yourselves in deeper and deeper. What pain you must feel.

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    • Replies: @anon

    We understand you cannot stop insulting people with you false arguments – repeating them over and over again – digging yourselves in deeper and deeper. What pain you must feel.
     
    False arguments ??
    You are basing your posting career on the deaths of 22,000 palestinians.
    However you are ambivalent about the 20x more killed ( 500,000 ) by the indonesian occupation of papua and the 1 million killed , 40x more by the Chinese occupation of Tibet . You are the one that has a false argument.

    I hardly know where Papua is.
     
    Thank you for confirming that you are ignorant .
  93. @Pandos
    Can you show me the deed?

    Just because you can sing a song about the land doesn't mean the Jews aren't/ weren't just stealing the common heritage of mankind. Maybe Abraham was justifying theft, murder and war.

    Can you show me the deed?

    It’s called the Torah.

    As for the accusation of thieving, it is impossible to steal that what is rightfully yours. We didn’t steal from the Palestinians anymore than we did from the Canaanites. On the contrary, it was them who stole from us by squatting on territory that the Creator had reserved for the Jewish people.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    At least you're smarter than the Rehmat syndicate (or adolescent play group).
    , @Pandos
    Your BOOK represents what you stole. You start out as chroniclers and ended up thieves.
  94. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Art

    There is only one supposed wrong that you ever post about . If there are wrongs that are 20x (Papua) or 40 times worse (Tibet ) , why are aren’t you posting 20x or 40x more about those, if you are simply a caring humanitarian ?
     
    A millions or more people have already died because of the Israel enterprise. The world is on edge because of the Israel enterprise. Many more are going to die because of the Israel enterprise.

    I hardly know where Papua is. Isn't the killing done in Papua and Tibet? How big is the Papua lobby in Washington DC?

    You are never ever going to divert attention away from the Stain of Palestine.

    p.s. We know your weaknesses, we know how hysterical you Little Jews are – we take that into account. We understand you cannot stop insulting people with you false arguments – repeating them over and over again – digging yourselves in deeper and deeper. What pain you must feel.

    We understand you cannot stop insulting people with you false arguments – repeating them over and over again – digging yourselves in deeper and deeper. What pain you must feel.

    False arguments ??
    You are basing your posting career on the deaths of 22,000 palestinians.
    However you are ambivalent about the 20x more killed ( 500,000 ) by the indonesian occupation of papua and the 1 million killed , 40x more by the Chinese occupation of Tibet . You are the one that has a false argument.

    I hardly know where Papua is.

    Thank you for confirming that you are ignorant .

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    You are basing your posting career on the deaths of 22,000 palestinians.
    However you are ambivalent about the 20x more killed ( 500,000 ) by the indonesian occupation of papua and the 1 million killed
     
    anon,

    Say Little Jew - why do I think that you could care less about 1 million dead Papua people?

    (Hmm - me thinks that you want justification to kill more Palestinians.)

    The Stain of Palestine is on you!

    Art

    , @5371
    You have now repeated the idiotic statements about China "occupying" Tibet (which has acknowledged Chinese sovereignty for several centuries) and killing, as Dr. Evil would say, ONE MILLION Tibetans in a territory with a present population just over three million, so often that I am roused to laugh at them. Your death tolls for Papua and Timor are also very exaggerated.
  95. As for the accusation of thieving, it is impossible to steal that what is rightfully yours.

    Greasy William,

    That comment is an insult – there is no god that gave the Jews anything other than the opportunity to be a good citizens of the Earth and beyond.

    Too bad the Jews as a tribe, reject that opportunity at goodness and instead chose darkness.

    The Stain of Palestine is already on you.

    Art

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  96. America’s top Jewish billionaire, George Soro, in an interview with ‘Islamophobe’ Fareed Zakaria on CNN on February 20, 2011 had claimed: “I bet that the Iranian regime is gone in one year”. George Soro runs a network of think tanks, such as International Crisis Group, whose board members include Zbigniew Brzezinski, Samuel Berger, Robert Malley, Mohamed ElBaradi. Adnan Abu-Odeh, Kofi Annan and others.

    Jews don’t accept Jesus as the promised Messiah because they were expecting the ‘promised Messiah’ to help them gain power and wealth, which Jesus was not interested in. However, George Soro has the money, connections and he is interested in establishing ‘One World Government’ under Jewish domination. Jerry Rabow in his book entitled 50 Jewish Messiahs tells the stories of 50 Jews who had claimed to be the ‘promised Messiah’ and how they effected the Jewish, Christian and Muslim worlds. The most famous among them happened to be Sabbatai Zevi (born 1626), whose followers still hold important positions in modern Turkey.

    Last year, CNN’s TV show host, Glenn Beck, one of the top 12 American Islamophobes had claimed on his show that George Soro as a youth in Hungary had collaborated with Nazis. Abraham Foxman, national director ADL was the first Jewish leader to condemn Glenn Beck for making such ‘anti-Semitic’ allegation.

    George Soros, who is better known as the founding-father of ‘velvet revolutions’ in Eastern Europe and has helped bankroll regime-change movements in Iran and Zimbabwe, has immense power in the American political arena. The long-time Democratic donor was also one of the top financers of Obama’s presidential election campaign in 2008.

    David Icke in his Newsletter dated June 28, 2009 had confirmed that Ahmadinejad’s election victory was not afraud and that anti-government protests were partialy funded by CIA, Mossad and George Soro’s propaganda network.

    Soro Foundation had funded anti-Turkey movie ‘Good Kurds, bad Kurds’, in 2001. The movie shows members of the outlaw Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) as members as heroes of the Kurdistan’s independence in southeastern Turkey. The geographical map of Turkey’s Kurdish Provinces has also been introduced as the Kurdistan’s land. The film also depicts images of George Soros and Rockefeller, two famous American billionaires, as the sponsors of the documentary.

    Dr. Stephen Steinlight, former director of American Jewish Committee and editor of ‘South Asia: In Review’, admits that though Jewish economic influence and power including media-control are disproportionate – but due to the demographic population changes (Asian and Latinos), Israel will lose its privileged position.

    “It is also true that Jewish economic influence and power are disproportionately concentrated in Hollywood, television, and in the news industry, theoretically a boon in terms of the formation of favorable public images of Jews and sensitizing the American people to issues of concern to Jews,” he writes.

    https://rehmat1.com/2011/02/25/george-soro-the-51st-jewish-messiah/

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  97. “Periodically, terror plots must be orchestrated by the FBI to keep domestic fear from flagging, however. Flags at half mast stiffen limp fighting spirit.”

    false flag ops claims keeps up your own limp grip.

    We got so much evidence, there is no need to manufacture any more. The Arab/Muzzies are nuts but the Jew drove them nuts. Return Israel to Palestine and send the jews to Mars.

    If then the muzzies do not stop coming at us…many many bullets, and repatriation to the desert.

    Make America White Again.

    Joe Webb

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  98. @schmenz
    The article pointed out the words and actions of Hungarian Jew George Soros, with quotations. He is one source openly calling for the end of European Christian culture (what's left of it, anyway). Another would be that sterling character Mark Zuckerberg.

    FYI: http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/07/game-over-europe-a-colour-revolution-is-coming/

    But Soros is not an Israel supporter. Remember the original claim – that millions of “progressive Jews” support open borders for the West but closed borders for Israel.

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    Hi biz:

    Thanks for the reply. Yes, I am aware of what some are saying about Soros vis-a-vis Israel. But his contacts with the Left in Israel doesn't, I believe, automatically make him anti Israel. Indeed he has invested heavily over there.

    I'll throw this into the stew pot for your consideration:

    http://jewlicious.com/2014/05/george-soros-continues-to-confuse/

    And it does seem unlikely that if he really were anti-Israel he would be investing millions to elect the Wicked Witch of the West.

    He's an eccentric crackpot, I'll give you that.
  99. @Art
    There was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until the 1960s.

    That is totally false. There was a land of Palestine - but not a state of Palestine --- as was the historical case with most Arab lands.

    I have a 1910 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (perhaps the finest collection of published knowledge ever). It has 25 pages on Palestine. It was a land – not a nation.

    In the last 2,000 years Palestine has been ruled by some bad people – but none worse than the current Jews. Families evolved in Palestine for a thousand years and their property was never confiscated by their rulers – that is until the Jews.

    The Stain of Palestine will shame the Jews forever.

    I said there were no Palestinians before 1960 – which is true. Sure, there was a geographic area called Palestine under the Ottomans and British.

    But there were no Palestinians. Nobody considered themselves to be that ethnicity, which was invented in the 1960s or 1970s solely to make it seem like the Jews of the Middle East were up against an equally small people rather than the 200 million Arabs. But it was all fake and Arabs admit that when they are talking among themselves and not for gullible Western leftists such as yourself.

    Before the 1960s a “Palestinian” meant a Jew.
    The Palestine National Football team was Jewish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine_national_football_team

    The Palestine Post was a Jewish newspaper: http://web.nli.org.il/sites/JPress/English/Pages/Palestine-Post.aspx
    etc.

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    But there were no Palestinians. Nobody considered themselves to be that ethnicity, which was invented...
     
    Oh, for Pete's sake! Quit with the silliness already. Of course it's not an ethnicity; it's more of a nationality. It's also a convenient handle to describe the people who were and are terrorized and brutalized by the Zionist mafiosi who stole their land.

    Besides, what difference would it make if Palestinians were or were not an "ethnicity?" It's a huge non-issue and a red herring obviously designed to confuse the issue and to misdirect the arguments against the criminality of violent, colonial Zionism. As the picture at the head of this link implies, many Jews reject Zionism and the atheistic and hideous State of Israel as all good people do.

    No one in his or her right mind would make excuses for that abomination.
    , @Art

    I said there were no Palestinians before 1960 – which is true. Sure, there was a geographic area called Palestine under the Ottomans and British.

    But there were no Palestinians.
     
    What total hogwash - pure Jew propaganda - hasbara hot air.

    Let's face it, the Stain of Palestine is so great that you Jew have to erase Palestine from human history and memory.

    When will you demand that people go to jail for using the word "Palestine?"

    Here is small example of the ongoing shame of the Jew in Palestine.

    Palestinian teen shot at checkpoint detained, interrogated in hospital

    18-year-old Raghad Shuani, shot by Israeli occupation forces at the Qalandiya checkpoint twice in the thigh on Tuesday, 26 July, is currently being subject to ongoing and exhaustive interrogation in Tzara Tzedek hospital in Jerusalem. Her detention was extended 8 days for continuing interogation and investigation; she was shot after being accused of “running towards” soldiers at the checkpoint. Israeli media reported that “a search of her body revealed she was not armed.”

    http://samidoun.net/2016/07/palestinian-teen-shot-at-checkpoint-detained-interrogated-in-hospital-women-in-israeli-detention/
     
  100. @Rurik
    from your reply to another:

    Most Jewish Democratic MOCs are in with the J Street lobby which is fairly anti-Israel as American politics goes. They support a two state solution, sharing Jerusalem, evacuating “settlements,” and providing compinsation to Palestinian (sic) refugees (sic).
     
    perhaps they do with tepid words to that effect, so long as it has no real effects on the realties on the ground

    the only thing you need to know is what the head of the DNC and anointed uber-progressive Jew, Debbie Wasserman Schultz did when it came to supporting the man who had helped exalt her to power- president Barak Obama, when Bibi came to town to humiliate him because he wasn't bellicose enough for the murderous Jewish supremacist Nazi.

    She repudiated Obama and went to the speech to show fealty to the mass-murdering war criminal Jew. Didn't she?

    and most recently, her entire machine of the progressive left, was found to be in the tank for the worst, most vile war pig hag that exists on this bedeviled planet. And dedicated to destroying the efforts of the one Jew who doesn't seem committed to endless war.

    so all the lying words to the contrary, when it comes down to it, these so-called progressive Jews that are so committed to peace, turn out to by just more lying, war-mongering shills for Zion, huh?

    Could there be reasons that have nothing to do with Israel for not suppoorting Bernie Sanders?

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    Could there be reasons that have nothing to do with Israel for not suppoorting Bernie Sanders?
     
    yes, of course

    but are you suggesting that the Jews running the DNC were sabotaging Bernie for reasons other than the Hillary guarantee of more wars for Israel?

    the main difference between the gorgon and Bernie is their respective hawkishness, or lack there of

    both of them want open borders, and both of them talk of reining in Wall Street corruption, but only Hillary guarantees a war with Iran and putting Putin in his place and the removal of Assad.

    do you think there are any Jews in the Democrat party that might like to see a US war on Iran and Putin humiliated? (No matter how much is spent in American goyim blood and treasure) ~

    http://hamodia.com/hamod-uploads/2016/07/AP16208852219799-1024x683.jpg
  101. @Greasy William

    Can you show me the deed?
     
    It's called the Torah.

    As for the accusation of thieving, it is impossible to steal that what is rightfully yours. We didn't steal from the Palestinians anymore than we did from the Canaanites. On the contrary, it was them who stole from us by squatting on territory that the Creator had reserved for the Jewish people.

    At least you’re smarter than the Rehmat syndicate (or adolescent play group).

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  102. @anon

    We understand you cannot stop insulting people with you false arguments – repeating them over and over again – digging yourselves in deeper and deeper. What pain you must feel.
     
    False arguments ??
    You are basing your posting career on the deaths of 22,000 palestinians.
    However you are ambivalent about the 20x more killed ( 500,000 ) by the indonesian occupation of papua and the 1 million killed , 40x more by the Chinese occupation of Tibet . You are the one that has a false argument.

    I hardly know where Papua is.
     
    Thank you for confirming that you are ignorant .

    You are basing your posting career on the deaths of 22,000 palestinians.
    However you are ambivalent about the 20x more killed ( 500,000 ) by the indonesian occupation of papua and the 1 million killed

    anon,

    Say Little Jew – why do I think that you could care less about 1 million dead Papua people?

    (Hmm – me thinks that you want justification to kill more Palestinians.)

    The Stain of Palestine is on you!

    Art

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  103. @hbm
    Jews have a particular beef with the notion of Palestine-- the name itself, as it was given to the region by Hadrian after he expelled the Jews in 135AD, as a consequence of what would be the last Jewish uprising against Rome. Hadrian expelled the Jews, built a Temple to Jupiter on the Temple Mount and re-named the region after his own Indo-European ancestors, the Philistines. This is an ethnomythological-historical affront to Jews, and is another reason they reject that Palestine was ever a "real place".

    Jews were never expelled by Hadrian or any other Roman emperor from anywhere except for a short time from the city of Jerusalem itself. There is no proof that the Philistines, if they existed, spoke an Indo-European language, and no case that they were ancestors of Hadrian himself.

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  104. @anon

    We understand you cannot stop insulting people with you false arguments – repeating them over and over again – digging yourselves in deeper and deeper. What pain you must feel.
     
    False arguments ??
    You are basing your posting career on the deaths of 22,000 palestinians.
    However you are ambivalent about the 20x more killed ( 500,000 ) by the indonesian occupation of papua and the 1 million killed , 40x more by the Chinese occupation of Tibet . You are the one that has a false argument.

    I hardly know where Papua is.
     
    Thank you for confirming that you are ignorant .

    You have now repeated the idiotic statements about China “occupying” Tibet (which has acknowledged Chinese sovereignty for several centuries) and killing, as Dr. Evil would say, ONE MILLION Tibetans in a territory with a present population just over three million, so often that I am roused to laugh at them. Your death tolls for Papua and Timor are also very exaggerated.

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  105. @5371
    Every single Jewish Democratic member of Congress supports Israeli nationalism but not American nationalism. (I have no idea what "Western nationalism" might be.)

    You quibble disingenouly. You know he meant what you coudn’t have pretended to misunderstand, viz. Western [nations] nationalism[s].

    Don’t bother. My only interest is the counter quibble.

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  106. @biz
    But Soros is not an Israel supporter. Remember the original claim - that millions of "progressive Jews" support open borders for the West but closed borders for Israel.

    Hi biz:

    Thanks for the reply. Yes, I am aware of what some are saying about Soros vis-a-vis Israel. But his contacts with the Left in Israel doesn’t, I believe, automatically make him anti Israel. Indeed he has invested heavily over there.

    I’ll throw this into the stew pot for your consideration:

    http://jewlicious.com/2014/05/george-soros-continues-to-confuse/

    And it does seem unlikely that if he really were anti-Israel he would be investing millions to elect the Wicked Witch of the West.

    He’s an eccentric crackpot, I’ll give you that.

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  107. @Greasy William

    Can you show me the deed?
     
    It's called the Torah.

    As for the accusation of thieving, it is impossible to steal that what is rightfully yours. We didn't steal from the Palestinians anymore than we did from the Canaanites. On the contrary, it was them who stole from us by squatting on territory that the Creator had reserved for the Jewish people.

    Your BOOK represents what you stole. You start out as chroniclers and ended up thieves.

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  108. @biz
    I said there were no Palestinians before 1960 - which is true. Sure, there was a geographic area called Palestine under the Ottomans and British.

    But there were no Palestinians. Nobody considered themselves to be that ethnicity, which was invented in the 1960s or 1970s solely to make it seem like the Jews of the Middle East were up against an equally small people rather than the 200 million Arabs. But it was all fake and Arabs admit that when they are talking among themselves and not for gullible Western leftists such as yourself.

    Before the 1960s a "Palestinian" meant a Jew.
    The Palestine National Football team was Jewish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine_national_football_team

    The Palestine Post was a Jewish newspaper: http://web.nli.org.il/sites/JPress/English/Pages/Palestine-Post.aspx
    etc.

    But there were no Palestinians. Nobody considered themselves to be that ethnicity, which was invented…

    Oh, for Pete’s sake! Quit with the silliness already. Of course it’s not an ethnicity; it’s more of a nationality. It’s also a convenient handle to describe the people who were and are terrorized and brutalized by the Zionist mafiosi who stole their land.

    Besides, what difference would it make if Palestinians were or were not an “ethnicity?” It’s a huge non-issue and a red herring obviously designed to confuse the issue and to misdirect the arguments against the criminality of violent, colonial Zionism. As the picture at the head of this link implies, many Jews reject Zionism and the atheistic and hideous State of Israel as all good people do.

    No one in his or her right mind would make excuses for that abomination.

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    I don't know jack shit about French, but I think you have misspelled your name. It should be Jacques!
  109. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jacques Sheete

    But there were no Palestinians. Nobody considered themselves to be that ethnicity, which was invented...
     
    Oh, for Pete's sake! Quit with the silliness already. Of course it's not an ethnicity; it's more of a nationality. It's also a convenient handle to describe the people who were and are terrorized and brutalized by the Zionist mafiosi who stole their land.

    Besides, what difference would it make if Palestinians were or were not an "ethnicity?" It's a huge non-issue and a red herring obviously designed to confuse the issue and to misdirect the arguments against the criminality of violent, colonial Zionism. As the picture at the head of this link implies, many Jews reject Zionism and the atheistic and hideous State of Israel as all good people do.

    No one in his or her right mind would make excuses for that abomination.

    I don’t know jack shit about French, but I think you have misspelled your name. It should be Jacques!

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  110. @biz
    I said there were no Palestinians before 1960 - which is true. Sure, there was a geographic area called Palestine under the Ottomans and British.

    But there were no Palestinians. Nobody considered themselves to be that ethnicity, which was invented in the 1960s or 1970s solely to make it seem like the Jews of the Middle East were up against an equally small people rather than the 200 million Arabs. But it was all fake and Arabs admit that when they are talking among themselves and not for gullible Western leftists such as yourself.

    Before the 1960s a "Palestinian" meant a Jew.
    The Palestine National Football team was Jewish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine_national_football_team

    The Palestine Post was a Jewish newspaper: http://web.nli.org.il/sites/JPress/English/Pages/Palestine-Post.aspx
    etc.

    I said there were no Palestinians before 1960 – which is true. Sure, there was a geographic area called Palestine under the Ottomans and British.

    But there were no Palestinians.

    What total hogwash – pure Jew propaganda – hasbara hot air.

    Let’s face it, the Stain of Palestine is so great that you Jew have to erase Palestine from human history and memory.

    When will you demand that people go to jail for using the word “Palestine?”

    Here is small example of the ongoing shame of the Jew in Palestine.

    Palestinian teen shot at checkpoint detained, interrogated in hospital

    18-year-old Raghad Shuani, shot by Israeli occupation forces at the Qalandiya checkpoint twice in the thigh on Tuesday, 26 July, is currently being subject to ongoing and exhaustive interrogation in Tzara Tzedek hospital in Jerusalem. Her detention was extended 8 days for continuing interogation and investigation; she was shot after being accused of “running towards” soldiers at the checkpoint. Israeli media reported that “a search of her body revealed she was not armed.”

    http://samidoun.net/2016/07/palestinian-teen-shot-at-checkpoint-detained-interrogated-in-hospital-women-in-israeli-detention/

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  111. @SolontoCroesus

    no one needs . . . prod[ing] . . . to dislike muslims. thats one of the few jobs muslims can do on their own , like female genital mutilation
     
    I'm only half-way through Joyce Carol Oates' "The Accursed," set in Princeton Borough, NJ in the years when Woodrow Wilson was president of the college there (~1904 - 1906).

    It's fiction, of course, but the author has female characters suggesting -- hinting at --- alluding to the practice of clitoridectomy -- female genital mutilation, tho it's officially defined in the civilized world (i.e. wikipedia) as "female circumcision" -- as more-or-less routinely prescribed for upper-class females.

    Ain't that a kick in the groin: The Hoity-Toity class in USA, that beacon of civilization, the light unto the nations, was no less eager to control their wimmin by mutilating their genitals than are those uncivilized Africans-Muslims; H-T USAians were merely more successful at keeping the practice under wraps.

    Yeah, a work of fiction published in 2013 by an atheist who surprise, surprise has hidden (((roots))) in her background is your evidence that female circumcision was rife among the educated set at Princeton in the early 1900′s?

    Even your wiki citation says that the practice was ended as a treatment for insanity in 1867.

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  112. @boogerbently
    If all this fighting of Islam is Israels fault, why do most Jews support the Dems in their quest for muslim importation?

    Jews want to clear out the middle east for Israeli Lebensraum and destroy Western civ. Exporting Muslims kills two birds with one stone.

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  113. @utu
    Who benefits? Releasing the wave of refugees was not a spontaneous phenomenon. Who paid for the trip, provided logistics and organized young men into marching groups recruiting them in camps in Turkey? Why do you think Trump knew to bring immigration issue into the forefront already in June 2015 before anybody knew that there will be a major refugee crisis in Europe? Why Orban of Hungary started building the fence ahead of time? The refugee wave attack was the third attempt by the usual suspects to bring Europeans together against Syria. The first was the poisonous gas in 2013 and the second was rolling out the Islamic State in winter 2014. But they did not work! The usual suspects did not get the no-fly zone in Syria and Assad did not get Gaddafi treatment. The usual suspects were in hurry because Russia was already preparing to move to Syria. They wanted to get a resolution for a no-fly zone in Syria and get confrontation in Syria with Iranian troops to derail the agreement that Obama worked out with Iran. But Merkel saved the situation by temporarily defusing the crisis by welcoming the refugees. It was a perfect application of Aikido. The force of the attack went into vacuum. And Putin moved in.

    False flag attacks became a big business and there are many contractors who can organize it for any state or against any state. Israel was the first country that mastered this new weapon. They have the know how. There are many benefits of terrorist attacks. Sometimes contradictory. They create fear and confusion among people and always send a message bad Arabs and Islam and good Israel and Jews. In France they can beef up the police state so they can fight the resistance to the neoliberal economic transition they are going through. They need France to get engaged in Syria. But Paris, November 2015 unintentionally brought France closer to Russia. This was not desired. So the shooting down of Su-24 by Nato member was arranged. All Nato countries had to close the ranks including France so her flirt with Russia was nipped in the bud. Attacks in Germany are clearly to undermine Merkel. Germany cannot be trusted and she is too powerful to the liking of the Zio-Anglo-Americans. Besides Europeans and Germans and French, in particular, are still way too sympathetic to Palestinians. So New Right has to be built up on fears of immigrants and Arab and islamophobia. This New Right is pro Israel because Israel is to them the shining example of how to deal with Arabs and Islam. The New Right was defined by Breivik. Munich operation was sending this message in open text. The New Right will help to dismantle the welfare state. This is what neoliberals want. Brexit was the part of it. Zio-Anglo-Americans have a different plan for the world and they do not see Germany in it or at least Germany in its current shape and form. They always feared the possibility of Germany following the dictum of Bismarck: “The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia.”

    False flag attacks became a big business and there are many contractors who can organize it for any state or against any state.

    Yeah, I think this is a very important point. It also seems that there must be great overlap between the contractors who set up the drills and those who set up the “real event”. Well, not exactly a “real event’ since what is presented as the real event is also a simulacrum.

    So, with the same people, broadly speaking, running the drill and the actual false flag or whatever, you have these crisis actors, sometimes the same people on the scene for different events. Really fishy things like that, that the MSM never investigate, of course.

    It seems that sometimes the people involved must just think they are performing in a simulacrum but then the footage is used and presented as the real thing. That might be why some of the acting is so bad.

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    “The world has enough terrorists,” Justice Bruce wrote. “We do not need the police to create more out of marginalized people.”

    Canada Judge Rules That Police Entrapped Couple in Bomb Plot

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/world/americas/canada-rcmp-bc-bomb-plot.html?_r=0

    One can easily imagine that the sting operation can easily can be pushed further into a false flag territory. It possible that the unit responsible for the sting is infiltrated by operators responsible for the false flag. 1993 WTC was such an operation.

    Media if honest could easily expose false flags and stings but they do not. Media are the most important part of the false flag operations because it is them that provide official narrative. That it almost always works is a proof that media are the part of the deep state interwoven into the security apparatus of the state.
  114. @Art

    Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won’t the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?
     
    You joke - but there is a great stain, a great stench swirling around the Jews.

    It is Palestine - the theft of Palestinian property from its owners – is odious - it is sickening to all good people.

    It is not only the Palestinian people - the process itself has engulfed the whole ME and coerced the Western world. The death and disruption already cause by Israel, exceeds what happened in WWII to the Jews. And of course the evil is not over – it is only at a midpoint.

    The Stain of Palestine is growing by the day on the Jew.

    Please don’t conflate Jews, per se and Zionists. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews. Incredible that despite the photo this piece leads with, I have found only one comment that even mentions Torah-based anti-Zionism.

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    ".....don’t conflate Jews, per se and Zionists. Not all Jews are Zionists...."
     
    Tell that to the British Rabbis who just issued a statement that criticism of Zionism is an attack on Judaism. (Anybody have a link?)
    , @Art

    Please don’t conflate Jews, per se and Zionists. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews.
     
    One could honestly say that 100% of the people that are actually stealing Palestine - are Jews.

    They are supported by the vast majority of the diaspora Jews.

    Israel is a Jew enterprise - period.

    Shame on the Jews for stealing Palestine from its inhabitants.
  115. @Wizard of Oz
    Could there be reasons that have nothing to do with Israel for not suppoorting Bernie Sanders?

    Could there be reasons that have nothing to do with Israel for not suppoorting Bernie Sanders?

    yes, of course

    but are you suggesting that the Jews running the DNC were sabotaging Bernie for reasons other than the Hillary guarantee of more wars for Israel?

    the main difference between the gorgon and Bernie is their respective hawkishness, or lack there of

    both of them want open borders, and both of them talk of reining in Wall Street corruption, but only Hillary guarantees a war with Iran and putting Putin in his place and the removal of Assad.

    do you think there are any Jews in the Democrat party that might like to see a US war on Iran and Putin humiliated? (No matter how much is spent in American goyim blood and treasure) ~

    http://hamodia.com/hamod-uploads/2016/07/AP16208852219799-1024×683.jpg

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    but are you suggesting that the Jews running the DNC were sabotaging Bernie for reasons other than the Hillary guarantee of more wars for Israel?
     
    Yes. Categorically yes. There is so many legitimate reasons to dislike Jews, there is no need to make stuff up.

    Mathew Yglesias, Greg Sargent, Harry Enten, Nate Silver (not really Jewish, but still), Greg Dworkin, Dana Milbank and Ezra Klein all love Hillary and hate Bernie for reasons that have nothing to do with Israel. They hate Bernie because they are true rootless cosmopolitans and diehard believers in globalist liberalism.

    I have found only one comment that even mentions Torah-based anti-Zionism
     
    Torah based anti Zionism still holds that the Land of Israel belongs exclusively to the Jewish people. It just states that there should be no forcible reconquest of the Land until the messiah comes.
  116. @Jonathan Revusky

    False flag attacks became a big business and there are many contractors who can organize it for any state or against any state.
     
    Yeah, I think this is a very important point. It also seems that there must be great overlap between the contractors who set up the drills and those who set up the "real event". Well, not exactly a "real event' since what is presented as the real event is also a simulacrum.

    So, with the same people, broadly speaking, running the drill and the actual false flag or whatever, you have these crisis actors, sometimes the same people on the scene for different events. Really fishy things like that, that the MSM never investigate, of course.

    It seems that sometimes the people involved must just think they are performing in a simulacrum but then the footage is used and presented as the real thing. That might be why some of the acting is so bad.

    “The world has enough terrorists,” Justice Bruce wrote. “We do not need the police to create more out of marginalized people.”

    Canada Judge Rules That Police Entrapped Couple in Bomb Plot

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/30/world/americas/canada-rcmp-bc-bomb-plot.html?_r=0

    One can easily imagine that the sting operation can easily can be pushed further into a false flag territory. It possible that the unit responsible for the sting is infiltrated by operators responsible for the false flag. 1993 WTC was such an operation.

    Media if honest could easily expose false flags and stings but they do not. Media are the most important part of the false flag operations because it is them that provide official narrative. That it almost always works is a proof that media are the part of the deep state interwoven into the security apparatus of the state.

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  117. @Rurik

    Could there be reasons that have nothing to do with Israel for not suppoorting Bernie Sanders?
     
    yes, of course

    but are you suggesting that the Jews running the DNC were sabotaging Bernie for reasons other than the Hillary guarantee of more wars for Israel?

    the main difference between the gorgon and Bernie is their respective hawkishness, or lack there of

    both of them want open borders, and both of them talk of reining in Wall Street corruption, but only Hillary guarantees a war with Iran and putting Putin in his place and the removal of Assad.

    do you think there are any Jews in the Democrat party that might like to see a US war on Iran and Putin humiliated? (No matter how much is spent in American goyim blood and treasure) ~

    http://hamodia.com/hamod-uploads/2016/07/AP16208852219799-1024x683.jpg

    but are you suggesting that the Jews running the DNC were sabotaging Bernie for reasons other than the Hillary guarantee of more wars for Israel?

    Yes. Categorically yes. There is so many legitimate reasons to dislike Jews, there is no need to make stuff up.

    Mathew Yglesias, Greg Sargent, Harry Enten, Nate Silver (not really Jewish, but still), Greg Dworkin, Dana Milbank and Ezra Klein all love Hillary and hate Bernie for reasons that have nothing to do with Israel. They hate Bernie because they are true rootless cosmopolitans and diehard believers in globalist liberalism.

    I have found only one comment that even mentions Torah-based anti-Zionism

    Torah based anti Zionism still holds that the Land of Israel belongs exclusively to the Jewish people. It just states that there should be no forcible reconquest of the Land until the messiah comes.

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    Mathew Yglesias, Greg Sargent, Harry Enten, Nate Silver (not really Jewish, but still), Greg Dworkin, Dana Milbank and Ezra Klein all love Hillary and hate Bernie for reasons that have nothing to do with Israel. They hate Bernie because they are true rootless cosmopolitans and diehard believers in globalist liberalism.
     
    the only reason they love Hillary is because Bernie is a shuffling, dried up, gibbering old Jew who stands no chance of winning. That is why they don't support him. Hillary [purportedly] has a vagina. That thing, -however moldered- is what will get her into the White House, and with her; more wars for Israel and all the liberal degradation these types salivate for.

    If Bernie were electable, then it'd be a different story.
  118. @Dissident
    Please don't conflate Jews, per se and Zionists. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews. Incredible that despite the photo this piece leads with, I have found only one comment that even mentions Torah-based anti-Zionism.

    “…..don’t conflate Jews, per se and Zionists. Not all Jews are Zionists….”

    Tell that to the British Rabbis who just issued a statement that criticism of Zionism is an attack on Judaism. (Anybody have a link?)

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  119. @Dissident
    Please don't conflate Jews, per se and Zionists. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews. Incredible that despite the photo this piece leads with, I have found only one comment that even mentions Torah-based anti-Zionism.

    Please don’t conflate Jews, per se and Zionists. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews.

    One could honestly say that 100% of the people that are actually stealing Palestine – are Jews.

    They are supported by the vast majority of the diaspora Jews.

    Israel is a Jew enterprise – period.

    Shame on the Jews for stealing Palestine from its inhabitants.

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    Israel is a Jew enterprise – period
     
    it'd never be possible without the slavish support of 70 million "Christian" American imbeciles drooling over their rapture (paid for with the murdered souls of Palestinian children)

    and of course none of these moral outrages could be perpetrated without the entire corrupt Gentile leadership of the Western world

    just sayin
  120. @Greasy William

    but are you suggesting that the Jews running the DNC were sabotaging Bernie for reasons other than the Hillary guarantee of more wars for Israel?
     
    Yes. Categorically yes. There is so many legitimate reasons to dislike Jews, there is no need to make stuff up.

    Mathew Yglesias, Greg Sargent, Harry Enten, Nate Silver (not really Jewish, but still), Greg Dworkin, Dana Milbank and Ezra Klein all love Hillary and hate Bernie for reasons that have nothing to do with Israel. They hate Bernie because they are true rootless cosmopolitans and diehard believers in globalist liberalism.

    I have found only one comment that even mentions Torah-based anti-Zionism
     
    Torah based anti Zionism still holds that the Land of Israel belongs exclusively to the Jewish people. It just states that there should be no forcible reconquest of the Land until the messiah comes.

    Mathew Yglesias, Greg Sargent, Harry Enten, Nate Silver (not really Jewish, but still), Greg Dworkin, Dana Milbank and Ezra Klein all love Hillary and hate Bernie for reasons that have nothing to do with Israel. They hate Bernie because they are true rootless cosmopolitans and diehard believers in globalist liberalism.

    the only reason they love Hillary is because Bernie is a shuffling, dried up, gibbering old Jew who stands no chance of winning. That is why they don’t support him. Hillary [purportedly] has a vagina. That thing, -however moldered- is what will get her into the White House, and with her; more wars for Israel and all the liberal degradation these types salivate for.

    If Bernie were electable, then it’d be a different story.

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    with all do respect, you just don't understand how Jews think. Wars for Israel is a big deal to the Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer and Jennifer Rubin types, but it just isn't a priority for the guys that I mentioned.
  121. @Art

    Please don’t conflate Jews, per se and Zionists. Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews.
     
    One could honestly say that 100% of the people that are actually stealing Palestine - are Jews.

    They are supported by the vast majority of the diaspora Jews.

    Israel is a Jew enterprise - period.

    Shame on the Jews for stealing Palestine from its inhabitants.

    Israel is a Jew enterprise – period

    it’d never be possible without the slavish support of 70 million “Christian” American imbeciles drooling over their rapture (paid for with the murdered souls of Palestinian children)

    and of course none of these moral outrages could be perpetrated without the entire corrupt Gentile leadership of the Western world

    just sayin

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    and of course none of these moral outrages could be perpetrated without the entire corrupt Gentile leadership of the Western world

    These low lives are not only corrupt people who take the perks of office that Jew approval brings. Many are weaklings who are themselves terrorized. They actually succumb and identify with their terrorist.

    Netanyahu and his tribal gang of hasbaraists are masters at working the Stockholm syndrome.
  122. @Rurik

    Mathew Yglesias, Greg Sargent, Harry Enten, Nate Silver (not really Jewish, but still), Greg Dworkin, Dana Milbank and Ezra Klein all love Hillary and hate Bernie for reasons that have nothing to do with Israel. They hate Bernie because they are true rootless cosmopolitans and diehard believers in globalist liberalism.
     
    the only reason they love Hillary is because Bernie is a shuffling, dried up, gibbering old Jew who stands no chance of winning. That is why they don't support him. Hillary [purportedly] has a vagina. That thing, -however moldered- is what will get her into the White House, and with her; more wars for Israel and all the liberal degradation these types salivate for.

    If Bernie were electable, then it'd be a different story.

    with all do respect, you just don’t understand how Jews think. Wars for Israel is a big deal to the Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer and Jennifer Rubin types, but it just isn’t a priority for the guys that I mentioned.

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    you just don’t understand how Jews think
     
    I'll defer to your expertise on this, but how many of those uber-liberals would fawn and gush over Bibi the war criminal if he were to walk into their place of work?

    I reckon all of them would. How many Jews do you know (progressive liberals or otherwise) that would publically utter the words 'fuck Israel' ?

    And call it a "shitty little country"?

    any?

    Jews are generally smart as a rule, there's just no way they don't know how hawkish Hillary is. They'd have to be living in a box. And they aren't. They're very politically astute.

    but there are Jews like Medea Benjamin who do speak up for peace, and they deserve our recognition and respect, huh Greasy ;)
  123. @grmbl
    Is dim Linh now the unofficial Nazi King of the Internet? Won't the Stormfronters be upset that their regular Jew-hating customers are migrating to Unz.com?

    Alright, time for another 100+ comments thread featuring rampant holocaust denial and Trutherism. Yeeee haw!

    You have a entire text of Dim Linh to refute, point by point

    Do you can do it*

    ….

    ;)

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  124. @Greasy William
    with all do respect, you just don't understand how Jews think. Wars for Israel is a big deal to the Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer and Jennifer Rubin types, but it just isn't a priority for the guys that I mentioned.

    you just don’t understand how Jews think

    I’ll defer to your expertise on this, but how many of those uber-liberals would fawn and gush over Bibi the war criminal if he were to walk into their place of work?

    I reckon all of them would. How many Jews do you know (progressive liberals or otherwise) that would publically utter the words ‘fuck Israel’ ?

    And call it a “shitty little country”?

    any?

    Jews are generally smart as a rule, there’s just no way they don’t know how hawkish Hillary is. They’d have to be living in a box. And they aren’t. They’re very politically astute.

    but there are Jews like Medea Benjamin who do speak up for peace, and they deserve our recognition and respect, huh Greasy ;)

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  125. How many Jews do you know (progressive liberals or otherwise) that would publically utter the words ‘fuck Israel’ ?

    None, but what does that have to do with anything? I’m not saying that the guys I cited are anti Israel, they aren’t. I’m saying that they are true believers in globalist liberalism. They are simply unrelated issues.

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  126. @Ralph Raico
    Che Guava writes, "Trotskyists or -ites (never having been either, I have forgotten the precise theological division on that point)." I believe the latter was actually a disparaging locution spread by the CP; compare Hitlerite and McCarthyite.

    Your comment has zero semantic content, no point, and no logic.

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  127. I’m not saying that the guys I cited are anti Israel, they aren’t. I’m saying that they are true believers in globalist liberalism. They are simply unrelated issues.

    well I kind of feel they’re tied

    one of the points running through this thread is the raging hypocrisy of some Jews like Wasserman Schultz who betray her patron Obama and the Democrat party when it comes to supporting the war criminal, uber-racist genocidal murderer Bibi.

    If it came down to it, and Michael Savage and Wasserman Schultz had to decide which country was going to get nuked by Pakistan/N. Korea/whatever.. Israel or the US, who do you think both of these putative lovers of the US and American people would side with? That’s a no-brainer. Michael and Debbie would be two peas in a pod, in bed together at last. Just like Greasy and Sam ;)

    So all the blather about how all these liberal Jews only support progressive liberalism and don’t give a rip about Zionism, all goes out the window when push comes to shove. And they all fall in line. Liberal, conservative, Zionist, whether it’s ultra-Orthodox or Likud, none of any of that matters when it comes down to “what’s good for the Jews”.

    And as far as I can tell, most of the Jews that support liberalism, (heroic victim status for each and every minority and degenerate while simultaneous vilification of all traditional Western cultural institutions and people) do so as a weapon- wielded by Jews (and their assorted useful idiots: blacks, homosexuals, Muslims, uber-feminists and others) in order to hammer a stake though the heart of any and all people (especially Germans) who might potentially be or become inconvenient to the absolute domination of the planet by organized Judai$m.

    That’s how it appears to me anyways

    am I wrong?

    [if there are any who would question why I include some Muslims with the other useful idiots, well if ISIS isn't acting purely as a useful idiot for the Zionists, then I don't know what to call it. Has anyone from ISIS ever harmed one hair on one Zionist's head? Have they so much as said an unfriendly word about Israel?]

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    So all the blather about how all these liberal Jews only support progressive liberalism and don’t give a rip about Zionism
     
    I never said that. Of course they care about Israel/Zionism, some obsessively others not as much. And I certainly never said any of the people I cited loved America. They love the deviant globalism that America makes possible but they certainly have no love for the American people, on the contrary, they hate them.

    What I am saying is that just because somebody is pro Israel doesn't mean they don't really believe in globalist liberalism. They are not faking their passion for BLM, the EU, "free trade", open borders (for the West) or tranny bathrooms. They really do care about this stuff.

    That they also care about Israel doesn't mean that they don't care about other things as well

    As for the accusation that I am primarily concerned about "what's good for the Jews", when have I ever said anything else? Doesn't mean it's the only thing I care about, even if it is my top priority.
  128. @Rurik

    I’m not saying that the guys I cited are anti Israel, they aren’t. I’m saying that they are true believers in globalist liberalism. They are simply unrelated issues.
     
    well I kind of feel they're tied

    one of the points running through this thread is the raging hypocrisy of some Jews like Wasserman Schultz who betray her patron Obama and the Democrat party when it comes to supporting the war criminal, uber-racist genocidal murderer Bibi.

    If it came down to it, and Michael Savage and Wasserman Schultz had to decide which country was going to get nuked by Pakistan/N. Korea/whatever.. Israel or the US, who do you think both of these putative lovers of the US and American people would side with? That's a no-brainer. Michael and Debbie would be two peas in a pod, in bed together at last. Just like Greasy and Sam ;)

    So all the blather about how all these liberal Jews only support progressive liberalism and don't give a rip about Zionism, all goes out the window when push comes to shove. And they all fall in line. Liberal, conservative, Zionist, whether it's ultra-Orthodox or Likud, none of any of that matters when it comes down to "what's good for the Jews".

    And as far as I can tell, most of the Jews that support liberalism, (heroic victim status for each and every minority and degenerate while simultaneous vilification of all traditional Western cultural institutions and people) do so as a weapon- wielded by Jews (and their assorted useful idiots: blacks, homosexuals, Muslims, uber-feminists and others) in order to hammer a stake though the heart of any and all people (especially Germans) who might potentially be or become inconvenient to the absolute domination of the planet by organized Judai$m.

    That's how it appears to me anyways

    am I wrong?

    [if there are any who would question why I include some Muslims with the other useful idiots, well if ISIS isn't acting purely as a useful idiot for the Zionists, then I don't know what to call it. Has anyone from ISIS ever harmed one hair on one Zionist's head? Have they so much as said an unfriendly word about Israel?]

    So all the blather about how all these liberal Jews only support progressive liberalism and don’t give a rip about Zionism

    I never said that. Of course they care about Israel/Zionism, some obsessively others not as much. And I certainly never said any of the people I cited loved America. They love the deviant globalism that America makes possible but they certainly have no love for the American people, on the contrary, they hate them.

    What I am saying is that just because somebody is pro Israel doesn’t mean they don’t really believe in globalist liberalism. They are not faking their passion for BLM, the EU, “free trade”, open borders (for the West) or tranny bathrooms. They really do care about this stuff.

    That they also care about Israel doesn’t mean that they don’t care about other things as well

    As for the accusation that I am primarily concerned about “what’s good for the Jews”, when have I ever said anything else? Doesn’t mean it’s the only thing I care about, even if it is my top priority.

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    on the contrary, they hate them.
     
    lol

    What I am saying is that just because somebody is pro Israel doesn’t mean they don’t really believe in globalist liberalism.
     
    my only point is that for all these so-called Jewish liberal progressives, who're supposed to care so much for the oppressed, when it comes to Israel, all of that goes out the window, and it's genocidal, ethnic cleansing white supremacy on steroids.

    As for the accusation that I am primarily concerned about “what’s good for the Jews”, when have I ever said anything else?
     
    oh I wasn't accusing you Greasy. You're a gem! Your candor makes your contributions priceless to The Unz Review.

    I was accusing the rotten hypocrites and 'lovers of the downtrodden' Democrats, unless the downtrodden are Iraqi children dying for lack of clean water and medicine, then these liberal Democrats curl their gnarled lips into snarls of vicious genocidal hatred and gloat over the deaths of children that they themselves have deliberately caused.
    , @Art
    Why do you care about these mean bastards?

    Why did these Israeli soldiers take this young Palestinian girl’s bike?

    Watch how two armed Israeli soldiers confiscate and throw away an eight-year-old Palestinian girl's bicycle for no apparent reason in the West Bank city of al-Khalil (Hebron).

    http://presstv.ir/Detail/2016/08/02/478179/west-bank-girl-bike-israelis-throwaway
     
    The Stain of Palestine is on you!
  129. @Rurik

    Israel is a Jew enterprise – period
     
    it'd never be possible without the slavish support of 70 million "Christian" American imbeciles drooling over their rapture (paid for with the murdered souls of Palestinian children)

    and of course none of these moral outrages could be perpetrated without the entire corrupt Gentile leadership of the Western world

    just sayin

    and of course none of these moral outrages could be perpetrated without the entire corrupt Gentile leadership of the Western world

    These low lives are not only corrupt people who take the perks of office that Jew approval brings. Many are weaklings who are themselves terrorized. They actually succumb and identify with their terrorist.

    Netanyahu and his tribal gang of hasbaraists are masters at working the Stockholm syndrome.

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  130. @Ralph Raico
    Che Guava writes, "Trotskyists or -ites (never having been either, I have forgotten the precise theological division on that point)." I believe the latter was actually a disparaging locution spread by the CP; compare Hitlerite and McCarthyite.

    You are wrong, i had enough conversation with Trotsky idiots overseas to know that they put much emphasis on the ‘ite’ or ‘ist’division, I have no idea what it is supposed to mean.

    I can walk about 300 or 400 metres from my flat, there is a building owned by a Trot business, I do not know if it is ‘ite’ or ‘ist’, but a friend whose father is a big man around town, taught me some of the old jocular ways of reference to the aging fake revolutionaries there.

    Trots are always undermining, always been the case. No doubt the CIA and earlier bodies supported their groups.
    Shame that they have metastasised into cultural destruction, but then
    again, that is precisely what Bronstein (Trotsky) always dreamed of, when he wasn’t mass-murdering people.

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  131. @anon

    You never seem to get it – one wrong never ever justifies another wrong.
     
    There is only one supposed wrong that you ever post about . If there are wrongs that are 20x (Papua) or 40 times worse (Tibet ) , why are aren't you posting 20x or 40x more about those, if you are simply a caring humanitarian ?

    The Stain of Palestine grows by the day – Jews cannot escape it.
     
    The stain of papua is 20x worse and growing and Indonesia cannot escape, the stain of Tibet is 40 times worse and growing and China cannot escape, the stain of Darfur is 40x worse and growing and Sudan cannot escape , the stain of Chechnya is 6 times worse and growing and Russia cannot escape. Is you anger and Posting career growing exponentially as well towards Indonesia ,Russia ,China, Sudan &c. ???.

    On the other hand, it’s surprising that so few British people – who rescued Jewish refugees and donated land in the middle-east – are interested in the goings-on of Israel. One would think it would be a keen interest to see how their fledgling sponsored country is coming along.

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    The British people are a conquered people and have been for a long time. All of the class consciousness and social climbing that means so much to them makes them easy marks.

    No man is more enslaved than he who falsely believes himself to be free. Goethe.

    Sad but true.
  132. @Greasy William

    So all the blather about how all these liberal Jews only support progressive liberalism and don’t give a rip about Zionism
     
    I never said that. Of course they care about Israel/Zionism, some obsessively others not as much. And I certainly never said any of the people I cited loved America. They love the deviant globalism that America makes possible but they certainly have no love for the American people, on the contrary, they hate them.

    What I am saying is that just because somebody is pro Israel doesn't mean they don't really believe in globalist liberalism. They are not faking their passion for BLM, the EU, "free trade", open borders (for the West) or tranny bathrooms. They really do care about this stuff.

    That they also care about Israel doesn't mean that they don't care about other things as well

    As for the accusation that I am primarily concerned about "what's good for the Jews", when have I ever said anything else? Doesn't mean it's the only thing I care about, even if it is my top priority.

    on the contrary, they hate them.

    lol

    What I am saying is that just because somebody is pro Israel doesn’t mean they don’t really believe in globalist liberalism.

    my only point is that for all these so-called Jewish liberal progressives, who’re supposed to care so much for the oppressed, when it comes to Israel, all of that goes out the window, and it’s genocidal, ethnic cleansing white supremacy on steroids.

    As for the accusation that I am primarily concerned about “what’s good for the Jews”, when have I ever said anything else?

    oh I wasn’t accusing you Greasy. You’re a gem! Your candor makes your contributions priceless to The Unz Review.

    I was accusing the rotten hypocrites and ‘lovers of the downtrodden’ Democrats, unless the downtrodden are Iraqi children dying for lack of clean water and medicine, then these liberal Democrats curl their gnarled lips into snarls of vicious genocidal hatred and gloat over the deaths of children that they themselves have deliberately caused.

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    lol
     
    What's that 'lol' about? You disagree?

    my only point is that for all these so-called Jewish liberal progressives, who’re supposed to care so much for the oppressed, when it comes to Israel, all of that goes out the window, and it’s genocidal, ethnic cleansing white supremacy on steroids.
     
    I'm with you but you went way further than that. You said that the Jewish establishment liberals were supporting Hil over Bernie exclusively because of Israel. But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. They establishment Jews supported Hillary because they really are all in on BLM, Wall Street and open borders. They loathe Bernie's brand of populism. Israel just didn't factor in to the Hillary/Bernie conflict.
  133. @Rurik

    on the contrary, they hate them.
     
    lol

    What I am saying is that just because somebody is pro Israel doesn’t mean they don’t really believe in globalist liberalism.
     
    my only point is that for all these so-called Jewish liberal progressives, who're supposed to care so much for the oppressed, when it comes to Israel, all of that goes out the window, and it's genocidal, ethnic cleansing white supremacy on steroids.

    As for the accusation that I am primarily concerned about “what’s good for the Jews”, when have I ever said anything else?
     
    oh I wasn't accusing you Greasy. You're a gem! Your candor makes your contributions priceless to The Unz Review.

    I was accusing the rotten hypocrites and 'lovers of the downtrodden' Democrats, unless the downtrodden are Iraqi children dying for lack of clean water and medicine, then these liberal Democrats curl their gnarled lips into snarls of vicious genocidal hatred and gloat over the deaths of children that they themselves have deliberately caused.

    lol

    What’s that ‘lol’ about? You disagree?

    my only point is that for all these so-called Jewish liberal progressives, who’re supposed to care so much for the oppressed, when it comes to Israel, all of that goes out the window, and it’s genocidal, ethnic cleansing white supremacy on steroids.

    I’m with you but you went way further than that. You said that the Jewish establishment liberals were supporting Hil over Bernie exclusively because of Israel. But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. They establishment Jews supported Hillary because they really are all in on BLM, Wall Street and open borders. They loathe Bernie’s brand of populism. Israel just didn’t factor in to the Hillary/Bernie conflict.

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    the 'lol' was because you're right

    They establishment Jews supported Hillary because they really are all in on BLM, Wall Street and open borders.
     
    you've bundled up some very different Jews there. The liberal Jews that support BLM are very different than some of the Jews on Wall Street that want to keep their lucre, and want lower taxes and vote Republican. Think Mark Levin. The only thing they ALL agree on is unlimited support for Israel no matter what.

    They loathe Bernie’s brand of populism. Israel just didn’t factor in to the Hillary/Bernie conflict.
     
    Bernie is the poster boy for open borders and BLM. There's no sunlight between the war sow and Bernie on those issues. The only sunlight between Bernie and the war sow is 'her' uber-blood thirsty saber rattling belligerence, where she has a lots! of cred.

    for the legions of millennial goyim supporting Bernie, his vote against the Iraq nakba was is what distinquishes him from the war sow. On every other metric, he's just another liberal talking shit about reining in Wall Street just like the sow talks about. But neither one would actually do. (Wall $treet is a Jewish endeavor ; )
  134. @helena
    On the other hand, it's surprising that so few British people - who rescued Jewish refugees and donated land in the middle-east - are interested in the goings-on of Israel. One would think it would be a keen interest to see how their fledgling sponsored country is coming along.

    The British people are a conquered people and have been for a long time. All of the class consciousness and social climbing that means so much to them makes them easy marks.

    No man is more enslaved than he who falsely believes himself to be free. Goethe.

    Sad but true.

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    Nosey, I'd like to reply but I would prob go off on an irrelevant ramble. I think it depends what you mean by British and Free, also Conquered.
  135. @Greasy William

    lol
     
    What's that 'lol' about? You disagree?

    my only point is that for all these so-called Jewish liberal progressives, who’re supposed to care so much for the oppressed, when it comes to Israel, all of that goes out the window, and it’s genocidal, ethnic cleansing white supremacy on steroids.
     
    I'm with you but you went way further than that. You said that the Jewish establishment liberals were supporting Hil over Bernie exclusively because of Israel. But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. They establishment Jews supported Hillary because they really are all in on BLM, Wall Street and open borders. They loathe Bernie's brand of populism. Israel just didn't factor in to the Hillary/Bernie conflict.

    the ‘lol’ was because you’re right

    They establishment Jews supported Hillary because they really are all in on BLM, Wall Street and open borders.

    you’ve bundled up some very different Jews there. The liberal Jews that support BLM are very different than some of the Jews on Wall Street that want to keep their lucre, and want lower taxes and vote Republican. Think Mark Levin. The only thing they ALL agree on is unlimited support for Israel no matter what.

    They loathe Bernie’s brand of populism. Israel just didn’t factor in to the Hillary/Bernie conflict.

    Bernie is the poster boy for open borders and BLM. There’s no sunlight between the war sow and Bernie on those issues. The only sunlight between Bernie and the war sow is ‘her’ uber-blood thirsty saber rattling belligerence, where she has a lots! of cred.

    for the legions of millennial goyim supporting Bernie, his vote against the Iraq nakba was is what distinquishes him from the war sow. On every other metric, he’s just another liberal talking shit about reining in Wall Street just like the sow talks about. But neither one would actually do. (Wall $treet is a Jewish endeavor ; )

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  136. @Greasy William

    So all the blather about how all these liberal Jews only support progressive liberalism and don’t give a rip about Zionism
     
    I never said that. Of course they care about Israel/Zionism, some obsessively others not as much. And I certainly never said any of the people I cited loved America. They love the deviant globalism that America makes possible but they certainly have no love for the American people, on the contrary, they hate them.

    What I am saying is that just because somebody is pro Israel doesn't mean they don't really believe in globalist liberalism. They are not faking their passion for BLM, the EU, "free trade", open borders (for the West) or tranny bathrooms. They really do care about this stuff.

    That they also care about Israel doesn't mean that they don't care about other things as well

    As for the accusation that I am primarily concerned about "what's good for the Jews", when have I ever said anything else? Doesn't mean it's the only thing I care about, even if it is my top priority.

    Why do you care about these mean bastards?

    Why did these Israeli soldiers take this young Palestinian girl’s bike?

    Watch how two armed Israeli soldiers confiscate and throw away an eight-year-old Palestinian girl’s bicycle for no apparent reason in the West Bank city of al-Khalil (Hebron).

    http://presstv.ir/Detail/2016/08/02/478179/west-bank-girl-bike-israelis-throwaway

    The Stain of Palestine is on you!

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    • Replies: @Greasy William

    Why do you care about these mean bastards?
     
    Because I'm Jewish.

    I don't have to endorse every action my people take or like everything about them to recognize that they are still my people. Blood is thicker than water.
  137. @Art
    Why do you care about these mean bastards?

    Why did these Israeli soldiers take this young Palestinian girl’s bike?

    Watch how two armed Israeli soldiers confiscate and throw away an eight-year-old Palestinian girl's bicycle for no apparent reason in the West Bank city of al-Khalil (Hebron).

    http://presstv.ir/Detail/2016/08/02/478179/west-bank-girl-bike-israelis-throwaway
     
    The Stain of Palestine is on you!

    Why do you care about these mean bastards?

    Because I’m Jewish.

    I don’t have to endorse every action my people take or like everything about them to recognize that they are still my people. Blood is thicker than water.

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    • Replies: @helena
    Maybe water is thicker than blood. Europeans are way more genetically homogenous than Jewish people but they don't have half the vim to consolidate their group identity. Even though they do feel their identity, they don't seem to do much about sustaining it, just watch as it is picked apart by more cohesive cultures.
  138. This article by Linh Dinh just like the last one by Saker is about synthetic terror and false flags. Unfortunately the discussions under both of them was hijacked and moved away from the crux of the matter.

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    • Replies: @alexander
    I think you are right, Utu.

    But it does make sense that articles on synthetic terror and the synthetic terror industry would be followed by commentary composed by synthetic people forged in the crucible of the same apparatus.

    Doesn't it ?

    What gives greater resonance to the reality of terror fraud and false flags than a bunch of phony shills actually paid to spout verbiage denouncing its reality ?
  139. @utu
    This article by Linh Dinh just like the last one by Saker is about synthetic terror and false flags. Unfortunately the discussions under both of them was hijacked and moved away from the crux of the matter.

    I think you are right, Utu.

    But it does make sense that articles on synthetic terror and the synthetic terror industry would be followed by commentary composed by synthetic people forged in the crucible of the same apparatus.

    Doesn’t it ?

    What gives greater resonance to the reality of terror fraud and false flags than a bunch of phony shills actually paid to spout verbiage denouncing its reality ?

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  140. @Greasy William

    Why do you care about these mean bastards?
     
    Because I'm Jewish.

    I don't have to endorse every action my people take or like everything about them to recognize that they are still my people. Blood is thicker than water.

    Maybe water is thicker than blood. Europeans are way more genetically homogenous than Jewish people but they don’t have half the vim to consolidate their group identity. Even though they do feel their identity, they don’t seem to do much about sustaining it, just watch as it is picked apart by more cohesive cultures.

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  141. @NoseytheDuke
    The British people are a conquered people and have been for a long time. All of the class consciousness and social climbing that means so much to them makes them easy marks.

    No man is more enslaved than he who falsely believes himself to be free. Goethe.

    Sad but true.

    Nosey, I’d like to reply but I would prob go off on an irrelevant ramble. I think it depends what you mean by British and Free, also Conquered.

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  142. @Marcus
    I don't see evidence of Israel being a big supporter of the rebels, that's been Turkey, the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc.

    Israel treats the wounded terrorists and then lets them go after they have recovered. Our friends to the end.

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    • Replies: @Art
    Israel treats the wounded terrorists and then lets them go after they have recovered. Our friends to the end.

    Hmm - wonder how many body parts they harvest in the process?
  143. @Tabasco Jack
    Israel treats the wounded terrorists and then lets them go after they have recovered. Our friends to the end.

    Israel treats the wounded terrorists and then lets them go after they have recovered. Our friends to the end.

    Hmm – wonder how many body parts they harvest in the process?

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  144. @Ralph Raico
    Che Guava writes, "Trotskyists or -ites (never having been either, I have forgotten the precise theological division on that point)." I believe the latter was actually a disparaging locution spread by the CP; compare Hitlerite and McCarthyite.

    You are probably correct, I never heard the ‘ite/ist’ about Trots from CPUSSR or CPC aligned people overseas

    Did hear it from Trots, always to minuscule groups their own miniscule group didn’t like.

    In Japan, the JCP is the most honest party (former leader Suwa made a show of writing on theory, but the main ones were attacking the CPUSSR, to be cozy with the CPC).

    They are probably the most honest of the parties now, but almost all of the candidates are lawyers. I see the posters, and I think ‘Why can you not find candidates other than lawyers?’

    Lawyer here is very different to lawyer in USA, anybody can study and take the exams, as it is not in most western countries now, only cheap university study, I hear most had similar systems before, but gone now.

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  145. Zionism is different with Judaism. Jews is different with Israel. We are all human being and we should befriend to each other (except Zionism). Thank you unz.com to brought up this matter! http://www.excellentinhousetraining.com

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