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Few cultural traditions are as charming, beautiful and unifying as the German Christmas Market. For about a month, the center of each German city or town becomes a festival ground, where folks can eat, drink and enjoy each other’s company. The offerings of gluhwein, wursts, flammkuchen, fish stew, handbrot, cinnamon stars, carved figurines and tiered pyramids with propellers, etc., allow one to be surrounded by such a lovely people at their most radiant. I’m blessed to have experienced Christmas Markets in Leipzig, Halle, Munich, Bozen and Berlin. Strolling through one, you feel embraced by life itself.

On December 19th, 2016, a truck plowed through a Berlin Christmas Market, killing 11 innocents and injuring 56 others. Though the driver fled the scene, it’s claimed that he left behind his ID, miraculously. Not only that, his biography was immediately available for broadcast worldwide, then Anis Amri was expediently tracked down in Milan and shot to death, precluding a trial.

Trump and others are calling this an attack on Christians, and I certainly agree, but I don’t blame Muslims, here or in the larger scheme, for they are merely pawns in the systematic deformation of not just Germany, but Europe.

They’re not the ones destroying Muslim countries, insisting that even non-refugees be allowed into Europe, branding white nationalists as racists and spectacularly amplifying, with false flags, Muslim crime. Muslims have made none of the decisions behind this worsening crisis.

My friend in Frankfurt has given us two previous reports from Germany. Here’s his latest:

Welcome to the madhouse, a country suffering from dementia and denial, and therefore poised for big, big trouble…

With Berlin, we just had the first major terror attack in Germany (after several small ones: a guy with an axe tried to chop a Chinese family to pieces on a train near Würzburg; a suicide bomber killed himself and wounded ten people at a concert in Ansbach; in Hamburg, somebody stabbed a teenager to death while ISIS claimed responsibility; at a Munich shopping center, an Iranian shot and killed ten people, but he was aiming for foreigners because he hated them, he said, so perhaps this was a right wing attack? Everything is possible these days…).

Back to the topic: a 16 year old girl rammed a knife into a policeman’s throat, having been inspired by the Islamic state; a guy in Reutlingen stabbed a Polish woman to death with a knife; we had several failed attempts to plant bombs by loony Jihadists, the last a 12-year-old boy who tried to blow one up at the Christmas market in Ludwigshafen. One of the bright future kids of Germany? I doubt it. Now, we had the attack in Berlin, where 12 people were killed.

As for murders or attempted murders of foreigners by these evil Nazi scums we’re constantly warned about: none for 2016!

It doesn’t take a genius to predict that 2017 will be much, much worse… I guess we will see terror attacks with hundreds, maybe even thousands of deaths, but people will do nothing against it, because, as I said, the German psyche is suffering.

Like a patient in a mental asylum, Germany is not able to see and therefore to get things straight. Having been told for decades that foreigners are good and nationalism is bad, Germans can’t come to the conclusion that open borders serve not only trade, but also terrorism.

Caveat: we always need to consider the possibility of the secret services’ involvement when it comes to terrorist acts. We now know that several past attacks were instigated by various secret services. There is a great journalist in Deutschland, Wolfgang Eggert, who is an expert on the topic. For example, he debunked the official story of attacks by the National Socialistic Underground.

NSU was a rightist extremist organization held responsible for the murders of nine Kurds in Germany between 2000 and 2006, and also for the killing of a female police officer in 2007. While we’re constantly told that it was the NSU, and that there is such a great danger from the right, Eggert could show, in several articles and interviews, that the official story just stinks.

Of course, you’ll only find this truth in the alternative media. In a few decades, the mainstream press may reveal it, when it won’t matter anymore. Same with the Red Brigades attacks in Milan in the 60′s. Now, we know that a NATO secret organization named Gladio was responsible.

Thanks to a whistleblower, we also know that the Munich Bomb attack during Oktoberfest in 1980, blamed on Neo-Nazis, was actually instigated by the German Secret Services.

But hey, that was 36 years ago, so it doesn’t really matter anymore, does it?

With the recent terror attacks, we can assume that at least some of them may not have happened quite in the way we are told. For example, the police informed us recently that an identification paper of the Berlin suspect was found inside the truck!

Funny how such documents are often found to identify the suspects. A passport was found in the rubble of 9/11, a passport was found in the truck after the Nice terrorist incident in 2015, and now an identification document is also found in the truck in Berlin. Damn stupid, these whacky terrorists, leaving traces everywhere!

So back to the situation. We have, still, open borders and “refugees” pouring into the country by the thousands. Mostly young men, they come from different cultural backgrounds and have totally different mindsets in regards to women, violence, the state and work, etc.

Reassuring us that all is well, our media keep claiming that events like Berlin cannot be prevented, should not lead to racial hatred and have nothing to do with Islam or massive immigration.

Funny, an Israeli expert on terror said on German TV that Germans should get used to these attacks. The audience and TV host nodded in agreement.

We know that the majority of these refugee men will never contribute to the German labor market (as I laid out in my last report). Slowly, this also dawns on the press.

We have reports about Christian refugees being hassled, beaten and threatened by the Muslim majority in the refugee centers.

We still have thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of refugees who were never registered, who just slipped into the country and disappeared.

We have the police telling us that in the last three years, the number of people who are deemed willing to instigate Islamic terror attacks in Germany has risen from 500 to 8,500.

ORDER IT NOW

We have countless incidents of sexual harassment, violence, theft, rape, etc., involving refugees, but we are still told that the refugees are no more criminal than Germans. As the government dismisses the problem, however, the number of security personnel has increased dramatically, so now you’ll find security guards at supermarkets, Christmas markets, public swimming pools and discotheques, wherever refugees go.

But no, we should not connect dots. We really shouldn’t.

Recently in Austria, the Interior Ministry provided these statistics about rapes, so now we know that although refugees only make up roughly 2% of the population there, they account for 15% of the rape suspects during 2015.

Who should be indignant about this? Our feminists scream bloody murder when a politician says to a female journalist that she “could easily fill a dirndl,” implying she had big boobs. Oh, the outrage! Sexism! Condemn him! But funnily, our feminists are dead silent when it comes to all sexual violence committed by refugees.

Remember Cologne? Real pussygrabbing in the thousands? Shhhh….. better be silent.

I would have really thought that was sexism, but apparently I am wrong.

It seems nobody in Germany knows Mona Eltahawy, an Egyptian feminist who has interesting things to say about Arab men and their attitude and behavior towards women.

And nobody remembers studies like the one telling us, in 2013, that 99.3% of Egyptian women have experienced some form of sexual harassment, most commonly unwanted touching.

No, no, no, let’s look the other way. We recently had the rape and murder of a German student in Freiburg by a refugee from Afghanistan. Getting back to the statistic from Austria (unfortunately, there are no German ones available): With 180,000 Germans and 35-40,000 Afghans in Austria, there were 10 German rape suspects and 55 Afghan ones in 2015, but please move on, there’s nothing to see!

Freiburg is a leftist town full of “Refugees Welcome” supporters. Its number of incidents involving refugee violence is growing, and so is the unease. There are groups of young refugee men who are on the streets constantly because they have nothing to do.

But a change of thinking? A questioning of beliefs? Nah, let’s buy pepper spray instead! Boohoo! We know from brain research that the vast majority of humans live in a constant state of cognitive dissonance, so debating or discussing the obvious will not help. People will have to experience the consequences of their actions and decisions, and they will.

In Bochum, an Iraqi refugee raped two Chinese students. The Chinese Consulate gave a travel warning for Chinese visitors. Our authorities told us to not generalize these incidents.

When a German man tells a German woman that she’s a little cutie (süsse Maus), it might be bad! Oh, condemn the sexism! But when a Kurdish man ties his wife to his car and drags her through the streets of Herne, almost killing her, there is just silence. It seems that this behavior is not sexist at all.

Or when an African man pours gasoline on his wife in the street, then lights her on fire, causing her death, there is, again, silence. That’s not sexist either.

Like I said, we have an insane policy of welcoming foreign men who will cling to completely alien mindsets and form ghettos to live apart from Germans. Most will never be integrated into the workforce, and some will do the most horrible things here.

Islam will be integrated and Sharia law will be officially accepted as equal to the Grundgesetz (the German constitution). This is not so farfetched as one would think. We are already constantly told that Islam is a religion of peace, that Sharia law is fine, that child marriage is not so bad as it seems, etc.

When a private Sharia police began patrolling the streets of Wuppertal, talking to people and telling them to stop drinking alcohol, etc., the authorities put an end to this, but the Sharia policemen were NOT found guilty of anything! Quite interesting.

The judge declared that the orange vests of the Sharia Police didn’t have an “intimidating or militant effect,” and since they weren’t similar to real police clothing, there was no violation of the “Uniformverbot,” a German law which prohibits people to wear uniforms as a sign of a political attitude. Charges were dropped and the Sharia policemen left the court as free men.

Funnily enough, in 2008, some Germans had done a similar thing and walked the streets of Dortmund. They wore T-shirts with “Die Rechte Stadtschutz Dortmund” on it. It roughly translates as “The Right’s Urban Guard of Dortmund”. They were from a right wing movement and talked, for example, to homosexuals to warn them against AIDS, etc.

Guess what? In 2014, a court ruled that they had violated the Uniformverbot. I don’t see a difference to the Sharia Police, but maybe I need to learn that two and two equals five, if I’m told that it equals five.

On the eve of the next depression, which should happen next year, this sort of migration policy is completely insane. I suspect there is a deliberate plan to fragment and weaken society so that we will accept all security measures from above. The same people that have put us into this precarious and increasingly dangerous situation will offer to save us!

This is perfect Machiavellianism. Fool the plebs, then make ‘em pay while you stay in power and have your way! Hurrah! Do you want more surveillance? Ja! Total surveillance? Ja! Do you want to eliminate cash to fight terrorism? Ja!

In the end, it all has to do with the collective mindset. Germans (or rather West Germans) have been told for decades that, ABOVE ALL THINGS, a new Third Reich has to be prevented! So all aspects of nationalism or even patriotism are bad, because patriotism can lead to chauvinism, which leads to Fascism, which leads to Auschwitz, and Auschwitz must never happen again! It’s nearly a religious cult we have built around the Third Reich.

ORDER IT NOW

Whenever somebody is to be destroyed (socially), you must only hint that he’s thinking or saying something which was also said in the Third Reich. Very effective! A German writer once called this behavior the Nazi-Keule, the “Nazi bludgeon.” If you criticize Jews, Israel, foreigners, immigration or if you say that German policy should focus on Germans, etc., you will get clubbed with the Nazi bludgeon.

This cult of Nazis, Auschwitz or the Third Reich is NOT to be critically debated! It is a taboo and, funnily enough, just like in a primitive society, everybody knows and fears the taboo while pretending it doesn’t exist. Interesting.

So the feeling of national unity has been erased, and completely absent in younger people. Germans would rather let their society slip into chaos than accused of being Nazis.

Mindfucked, we are submitting completely to avoid trouble, just as Germans submitted to Hitler back then.

Hmmm, maybe Islam really is a part of Germany, as one of our presidents said. Submission here, submission there…

Well, they couldn’t avoid trouble back then, and they won’t avoid trouble now. Even more bizarrely, Germans are so brainwashed and scared that this mindset will harden even more. I see it in discussions with people. With fervor, they cling to their beliefs. We will have multiculturalism at any cost because nationalism is bad!

And we will succeed, meaning that every city in Western Germany will soon have its own ghetto, that many people will be scared all the time because of muggers, rapists, terrorists and drug pushers, etc.

Life will go on but it will be tougher, with some areas resembling Brazil or Nigeria. I once was in Nigeria on a business trip. You can do great business there, if you have money, but life in general is tough. Make these fairly obvious observations and you will be accused of “hate speech,” or maybe “fake news.”

Don’t worry! Help is on the way! Our Minister of the Interior is thinking about a new law to imprison people up to five years for disseminating fake news, but what are fake news? Well, that is for the experts to decide.

And hate speech must be banned! What is hate speech? Well, that is for the experts to decide. And Germans must also integrate! No joke, a journalist demanded that Germans must integrate into a multicultural society.

According to another expert, they should also consider learning Arabic! And be more “culturally sensitive” towards others, as advised by a panel of immigration experts.

What Germans will do is keeping their mouths shut. They will take their children to school by car, or transferring them to other schools, if the percentage of immigrants is getting too high, and their kids get hassled for being German. They will move to another neighborhood, and make their house safe against burglars. They will buy pepper spray and hope that the situation will improve, which it won’t.

We’ll deny that we are in trouble until the very end. We’ll throw our freedom away, hoping that we’ll keep our security, only to lose both.

2017 will be just another year in the process of turning Germany into a perfect prison, a prison of the mind, and a real prison too.

Personally, I think we’ll either have a brutal and dangerous multicultural society in 15-20 years, or civil unrest, even war. Keep in mind that civil wars usually start because of economic troubles, and the economic troubles just ahead are huge. Should the social payments stop one day, all hell will break loose.

Already 70% of the children under five in Frankfurt have an immigration background, so it’ll be either total submission or civil war. I suspect it will be the latter, and that it will start in Eastern Germany, in conjunction with a movement towards secession.

Linh Dinh’s Postcards from the End of America will be published by Seven Stories Press in January of 2017. Tracking our deteriorating socialscape, he maintains a photo blog.

 
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  1. pyrrhus says:

    Thank you for a very sober and thorough summary of the unfolding disaster in Germany, Linh Dinh…..Germans have obediently followed their leaders into three epic catastrophes in the last hundred years, with scarcely a dissent. This will be the fourth….Ben Franklin observed about 250 years ago that the German immigrants to the Colonies simply could not assimilate with the rebellious, independent English and Scottish settlers who founded the country. He was a prophet.

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    Actually Germans assimilated so well almost any white person in America will tell you their English/German. Or Irish/German. But the Anglo Norman power structure was never challenged in any way. Which only underscores the broader point.
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  2. Germany is now completely controlled by the “Green” party in spite of the fact that their actual numbers in congress are minimal. They set the tone for all of society with PC and open borders being the guideline for all discussion and and political action.
    AM is doing their bidding and she is amazingly enough heaped with praise from a segment of society namely the leftists ( Greens) which until now had nothing but contempt for all conservatives, of course she in not conservative and therefore the positive reaction to her politics from them, the greens.
    Add to this crazy constellation the fact that Germans, as always, worship the positions of authority, judges, doctors, journalists, lawyers, clergy, in other words all of the dubious con-artists and BSers, then you have a situation in which these scoundrels, ninty percent of them leftists, who are now hysterical with their anti-DT tirades, you now have a situation in which public sentiment is completely oppressed for fear of being labeled : Rechts, fremdenfeindlich, homophobe, frauenfeindlich etc.
    A bizarre example of the confusion and malaise in Germany being the election of a Green “Minsisterpräsident” in the state of Baden-Würtemburg the h0me of Mercedes Benz, Porsche etc and the city in which the automobile was actually invented : Mannheim, bizarre because his party, the Greens, has one particular goal regarding private auto ownership in mind : the elimination thereof, and even so-called “conservative Germans see him as a “Landesvater”. Okay so try and figure that one out.
    One could on and on about the malaise of contradictions and puzzles at home in Germany, and I am guessing that this post will not be accepted for publication within the forum.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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    Germany is now completely controlled by the “Green” party in spite of the fact that their actual numbers in congress are minimal. They set the tone for all of society with PC and open borders being the guideline for all discussion and and political action.
     
    Any society which has either Green parties or movements as viable political forces, that is forces influencing formulation of domestic and foreign policies (Germany is one such example), is a very sick society. Germany is a sick society now as much as it pains me top say so.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Authenticjaxxman::

    How can you say that your post will not be accepted after some of the stuff that Ron lets published on his forum. From what I recall your contributions are relatively mild in comparison.
    , @Santoculto
    Your soberb intelligence is philosemite/blindsemite too?? "greens" or "leftists" are euphemisms when people confuse the army of zombies with their mental owners. The leftist elite is fundamentally Jewish. Their body of idiots are predominantly goym.

    Every unwise idiot walking into the earth surface is a business to the deception.

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  3. The next-to-last paragraph is particularly good. An economic/financial crisis in which social payments either stop or become worthless is likely to trigger a conlict resembling civil war. There are similar situations brewing in France, the U.K., Sweden and Italy. If there is hope it lies in the East-the Visegrad countries are digging in against the invaders. I seem to remember that the Swiss Army conducted exercises involving mass refugee situations from other countries and that Swiss citizens were advised to arm themselves.

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  4. Ace says:

    That observation has not been borne out by later events.

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  5. Mario64 says:

    Franz Kafka’s masterpiece “Das Schloss” (The Castle) is unparalleled in exposing German people attitude in front of authority.

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  6. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Always ask and find out who’s behind the curtain, pulling the strings on the sold-out politicians.

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  7. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Authenticjazzman
    Germany is now completely controlled by the "Green" party in spite of the fact that their actual numbers in congress are minimal. They set the tone for all of society with PC and open borders being the guideline for all discussion and and political action.
    AM is doing their bidding and she is amazingly enough heaped with praise from a segment of society namely the leftists ( Greens) which until now had nothing but contempt for all conservatives, of course she in not conservative and therefore the positive reaction to her politics from them, the greens.
    Add to this crazy constellation the fact that Germans, as always, worship the positions of authority, judges, doctors, journalists, lawyers, clergy, in other words all of the dubious con-artists and BSers, then you have a situation in which these scoundrels, ninty percent of them leftists, who are now hysterical with their anti-DT tirades, you now have a situation in which public sentiment is completely oppressed for fear of being labeled : Rechts, fremdenfeindlich, homophobe, frauenfeindlich etc.
    A bizarre example of the confusion and malaise in Germany being the election of a Green "Minsisterpräsident" in the state of Baden-Würtemburg the h0me of Mercedes Benz, Porsche etc and the city in which the automobile was actually invented : Mannheim, bizarre because his party, the Greens, has one particular goal regarding private auto ownership in mind : the elimination thereof, and even so-called "conservative Germans see him as a "Landesvater". Okay so try and figure that one out.
    One could on and on about the malaise of contradictions and puzzles at home in Germany, and I am guessing that this post will not be accepted for publication within the forum.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    Germany is now completely controlled by the “Green” party in spite of the fact that their actual numbers in congress are minimal. They set the tone for all of society with PC and open borders being the guideline for all discussion and and political action.

    Any society which has either Green parties or movements as viable political forces, that is forces influencing formulation of domestic and foreign policies (Germany is one such example), is a very sick society. Germany is a sick society now as much as it pains me top say so.

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  8. Dan Hayes says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    Germany is now completely controlled by the "Green" party in spite of the fact that their actual numbers in congress are minimal. They set the tone for all of society with PC and open borders being the guideline for all discussion and and political action.
    AM is doing their bidding and she is amazingly enough heaped with praise from a segment of society namely the leftists ( Greens) which until now had nothing but contempt for all conservatives, of course she in not conservative and therefore the positive reaction to her politics from them, the greens.
    Add to this crazy constellation the fact that Germans, as always, worship the positions of authority, judges, doctors, journalists, lawyers, clergy, in other words all of the dubious con-artists and BSers, then you have a situation in which these scoundrels, ninty percent of them leftists, who are now hysterical with their anti-DT tirades, you now have a situation in which public sentiment is completely oppressed for fear of being labeled : Rechts, fremdenfeindlich, homophobe, frauenfeindlich etc.
    A bizarre example of the confusion and malaise in Germany being the election of a Green "Minsisterpräsident" in the state of Baden-Würtemburg the h0me of Mercedes Benz, Porsche etc and the city in which the automobile was actually invented : Mannheim, bizarre because his party, the Greens, has one particular goal regarding private auto ownership in mind : the elimination thereof, and even so-called "conservative Germans see him as a "Landesvater". Okay so try and figure that one out.
    One could on and on about the malaise of contradictions and puzzles at home in Germany, and I am guessing that this post will not be accepted for publication within the forum.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    Authenticjaxxman::

    How can you say that your post will not be accepted after some of the stuff that Ron lets published on his forum. From what I recall your contributions are relatively mild in comparison.

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  9. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Kafka would know, wouldn’t he?

    He lived at home for most of his life.
    It’s likely “Metamorphoses” was Kafka’s reflection on his relationship with his father — in Kafka’s tortured mind, his helplessness was invisible to his authoritarian father. Kafka was an adult, not a child, when he thought himself a helpless bug.

    Kafka was sexually dysfunctional –

    Kafka was never married. According to Brod, Kafka was “tortured” by sexual desire[55] and Kafka’s biographer Reiner Stach states that his life was full of “incessant womanising” and that he was filled with a fear of “sexual failure”.[56] He visited brothels for most of his adult life[57][58][59] and was interested in pornography.[55] In addition, he had close relationships with several women during his life.

    hardly the person to “expose the German people’s attitude toward authority.”

    which forces one to consider that much of what we think we know about German attitudes toward authority, at least before Jews, FDR and Churchill exploited them, starved them, bombed them, murdered them and brainwashed them over the course of 125 years and counting, is mostly Jewish and Anglo propaganda.

    USAians really ought to wise up to these historic realities: the same tactics are being carried out agains the much more malleable and authority-worshipping USA sheeple.

    When a Chertoff-trained TSA apparatchik orders you to take your shoes off, what do you do?

    At least the German people summoned the balls to organize around their common national identity and wage war against their oppressors.

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    You forgot to end your comment on Kafka (a Jew) with the salute: Heil Hitler!
    , @Linh Dinh
    The irrationally tyranical father is most memorably depicted by Kafka in "The Judgement," where a son is condemed to death by his raving dad:

    "So now you know what else there was in the world besides yourself, till now you've known only about yourself! An innocent child, yes, that you were, truly, but still more truly have you been a devilish human being!--And therefore take note: I sentence you now to death by drowning!"

    The doofus complied by jumping off a bridge.

    , @Santoculto
    What one thing have to do with other thing redpilled?
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  10. Mario64 says:
    @Anonymous
    Kafka would know, wouldn't he?

    He lived at home for most of his life.
    It's likely "Metamorphoses" was Kafka's reflection on his relationship with his father -- in Kafka's tortured mind, his helplessness was invisible to his authoritarian father. Kafka was an adult, not a child, when he thought himself a helpless bug.

    Kafka was sexually dysfunctional --


    Kafka was never married. According to Brod, Kafka was "tortured" by sexual desire[55] and Kafka's biographer Reiner Stach states that his life was full of "incessant womanising" and that he was filled with a fear of "sexual failure".[56] He visited brothels for most of his adult life[57][58][59] and was interested in pornography.[55] In addition, he had close relationships with several women during his life.
     
    hardly the person to "expose the German people's attitude toward authority."

    which forces one to consider that much of what we think we know about German attitudes toward authority, at least before Jews, FDR and Churchill exploited them, starved them, bombed them, murdered them and brainwashed them over the course of 125 years and counting, is mostly Jewish and Anglo propaganda.

    USAians really ought to wise up to these historic realities: the same tactics are being carried out agains the much more malleable and authority-worshipping USA sheeple.

    When a Chertoff-trained TSA apparatchik orders you to take your shoes off, what do you do?

    At least the German people summoned the balls to organize around their common national identity and wage war against their oppressors.

    You forgot to end your comment on Kafka (a Jew) with the salute: Heil Hitler!

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    Why should Kafka's Jewishness or non-Jewishness (he self-identified as non-observant Jew, stopped participating after Bar Mitzvah) be pertinent?
    Haven't read Castle, but study of other of Kafka's works and life suggests he was not a well-grounded personality -- he was diagnosed schizophrenic, he was anorexic, he had other weird habits. Was all that because he was Jewish, or German, or because he was born in Prague?

    What do you do when TSA orders that you take off your shoes, or submit to an X Ray or physical search?

    USA needs someone like Hitler to remind USAians of their dignity and encourage them not to allow themselves to be humiliated.

    , @Coincidence Observer

    You forgot to end your comment on Kafka (a Jew) with the salute: Heil Hitler!
     
    But that would be an honor!

    Since (((you))) personally hate him, why don't (((you))) ask him to boil in excrement?
    , @Wally
    Yawn.

    Well, there were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?

    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    The '6,000,000 Jews' lie and the laughing Mexican:

    https://youtu.be/nxbV3RsyQwI
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  11. mh505 says:

    This is perfect Machiavellianism. Fool the plebs, then make ‘em pay while you stay in power and have your way! Hurrah!

    This “friend in Frankfurt”, whoever he may be, clearly has never read Machiavelli or studied his life. There is no such thing as “Machiavellianism”.

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  12. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Mario64
    You forgot to end your comment on Kafka (a Jew) with the salute: Heil Hitler!

    Why should Kafka’s Jewishness or non-Jewishness (he self-identified as non-observant Jew, stopped participating after Bar Mitzvah) be pertinent?
    Haven’t read Castle, but study of other of Kafka’s works and life suggests he was not a well-grounded personality — he was diagnosed schizophrenic, he was anorexic, he had other weird habits. Was all that because he was Jewish, or German, or because he was born in Prague?

    What do you do when TSA orders that you take off your shoes, or submit to an X Ray or physical search?

    USA needs someone like Hitler to remind USAians of their dignity and encourage them not to allow themselves to be humiliated.

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    Thank you for coming out at last with your longing for the coming of a new Hitler who will share your view about Jews, FDR, Churchill and Jewish and Anglo propaganda.

    Ref Kafka: " In 1999 a committee of 99 authors, scholars, and literary critics ranked Der Process and Das Schloss the second and ninth most significant German-language novels of the 20th century." (Wikipedia) (LiteraturHaus 1999)
    , @neutral

    Why should Kafka’s Jewishness or non-Jewishness (he self-identified as non-observant Jew, stopped participating after Bar Mitzvah) be pertinent?
     
    It generally should be considered to be the most pertinent thing of them all. Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.
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  13. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @mh505

    This is perfect Machiavellianism. Fool the plebs, then make ‘em pay while you stay in power and have your way! Hurrah!
     
    This "friend in Frankfurt", whoever he may be, clearly has never read Machiavelli or studied his life. There is no such thing as "Machiavellianism".
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    Thanks, Linh; I stand corrected .)

    However, my point was somewhat different. What I should have said is that this so-called "Machiavellianism" is a term invented by people that never read Machiavelli or studied his life.
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  14. Mario64 says:
    @Anonymous
    Why should Kafka's Jewishness or non-Jewishness (he self-identified as non-observant Jew, stopped participating after Bar Mitzvah) be pertinent?
    Haven't read Castle, but study of other of Kafka's works and life suggests he was not a well-grounded personality -- he was diagnosed schizophrenic, he was anorexic, he had other weird habits. Was all that because he was Jewish, or German, or because he was born in Prague?

    What do you do when TSA orders that you take off your shoes, or submit to an X Ray or physical search?

    USA needs someone like Hitler to remind USAians of their dignity and encourage them not to allow themselves to be humiliated.

    Thank you for coming out at last with your longing for the coming of a new Hitler who will share your view about Jews, FDR, Churchill and Jewish and Anglo propaganda.

    Ref Kafka: ” In 1999 a committee of 99 authors, scholars, and literary critics ranked Der Process and Das Schloss the second and ninth most significant German-language novels of the 20th century.” (Wikipedia) (LiteraturHaus 1999)

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    What is it about these letters, H I T L E R, that deranges people and jettisons comprehension of the key point, that point being related to Dinh's observations: The German people have lost their dignity; they have absorbed deep in their psyches the humiliations that the 'civilized world,' including at the vanguard a large contingent of Jews, forced upon them through psychological warfare.

    Jews were prominent among those trained in psychological warfare at Camp Ritchie, Maryland, beginning in 1942. They were motivated by hatred, and as Norman Finkelstein is on record as saying, Jews never turn away from hate.

    Jews were therefore prominent in the cadres who worked (contrary to the wishes of the US Congress and War department) in the postwar era to impose "modern" literary and art forms on the German people. While the US War department "maintained a monopoly on violence" over the German people -- in addition to control over their caloric intake and housing (a lot like the way Israel controls Gaza), CIA and Jews removed from German institutions books and art that the Jews objected to, and replaced those cultural expressions with "modern" art and literature preferred by the CIA and Jewish occupiers/"Morgenthau's Boys."

    The German people objected to cultural innovations Jews brought to German during the Weimar era and took legislative measures to regain control over their culture. FDR, Churchill and Jews reversed that effort; they first destroyed German cities and historic buildings thru firebombing; then destroyed the German people thru firebombing, rape, starvation, exposure, and population transfer; then destroyed the German soul through sustained brainwashing -- psychological warfare, for which Jewish teenagers trained at Camp Ritchie to carry out policies that Henry Morgenthau, Jr. devised, with FDR's and Churchill's acquiescence.

    So it's no surprise that Wikipedia reports that Kafka's work is praised by "99 experts." Wikipedia, and Germany, and the German psyche itself, are territories shaped and occupied by Jewish preferences.

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  15. Is it not true that the 1% rape the least? So they are the good people. Linh Dinh and friend should come out an insist on this.

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    Hmm, the precedents to a possible pizzagate situation suggest that the 1% might rape the most.
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  16. SLM says:

    What Germans will do is keeping their mouths shut. They will take their children to school by car, or transferring them to other schools, if the percentage of immigrants is getting too high, and their kids get hassled for being German. They will move to another neighborhood, and make their house safe against burglars. They will buy pepper spray and hope that the situation will improve, which it won’t.In other words, they will be doing what Americans have been doing for the past 50 years.

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    "In other words, they will be doing what Americans have been doing for the past 50 years." - Exactly. America is exporting its social model. The owners found this model very useful. Break the social cohesion, divide people, set them against each other so homo homini lupus est. They found that to accomplish this a multi-ethnic society is much more conducive. Having a hostile and violent minority helps in particular. America had no choice. Slavery was part of the package. But Europe did not have to go this way until apparently Europe is being force to emulate American model.

    They want to create hell on earth promising a paradise.
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  17. utu says:
    @SLM
    What Germans will do is keeping their mouths shut. They will take their children to school by car, or transferring them to other schools, if the percentage of immigrants is getting too high, and their kids get hassled for being German. They will move to another neighborhood, and make their house safe against burglars. They will buy pepper spray and hope that the situation will improve, which it won’t.In other words, they will be doing what Americans have been doing for the past 50 years.

    “In other words, they will be doing what Americans have been doing for the past 50 years.” – Exactly. America is exporting its social model. The owners found this model very useful. Break the social cohesion, divide people, set them against each other so homo homini lupus est. They found that to accomplish this a multi-ethnic society is much more conducive. Having a hostile and violent minority helps in particular. America had no choice. Slavery was part of the package. But Europe did not have to go this way until apparently Europe is being force to emulate American model.

    They want to create hell on earth promising a paradise.

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    Hey utu,

    They want to create hell on earth promising a paradise.
     
    I have noticed this to be the case with all fanatical utopian visions - religious or secular. Daesh being a prime example from the religious side.

    Peace.
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  18. Thank you for coming out at last with your longing for the coming of a new Hitler who will share your view about Jews, FDR, Churchill and Jewish and Anglo propaganda.

    Do you know what Churchill said about the Jews? Hey how’s about FDR and Churchill’s appeasement of the monster, Uncle Joey? BTW, how did Joey treat “da Jewz?” Great bunch of guys, right? Salt o’ de Earth, I tell ya!

    Ref Kafka: ” In 1999 a committee of 99 authors, scholars, and literary critics ranked Der Process and Das Schloss the second and ninth most significant German-language novels of the 20th century.” (Wikipedia) (LiteraturHaus 1999)

    Oh, that means a lot! Who were those clowns anyway? Looks, for instance, what “wins” Nobel Peace Prizes and such. You don’t really know how that trash works, do you?

    Sorry to hear all this about Germany. Great place, great people.

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    No, what did Churchill say? I always thought of him as moderately philosemitic and outrageously pro-Zionist, but it's a while since I've read much either by him or about him.

    De gustibus non disputandum, but I've always liked Kafka and regard The Trial and The Castle (titles given in English because I don't read German) as excellent works. I'm not sure what the prize thing had to do with M64's point anyway.

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  19. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Mario64
    Thank you for coming out at last with your longing for the coming of a new Hitler who will share your view about Jews, FDR, Churchill and Jewish and Anglo propaganda.

    Ref Kafka: " In 1999 a committee of 99 authors, scholars, and literary critics ranked Der Process and Das Schloss the second and ninth most significant German-language novels of the 20th century." (Wikipedia) (LiteraturHaus 1999)

    What is it about these letters, H I T L E R, that deranges people and jettisons comprehension of the key point, that point being related to Dinh’s observations: The German people have lost their dignity; they have absorbed deep in their psyches the humiliations that the ‘civilized world,’ including at the vanguard a large contingent of Jews, forced upon them through psychological warfare.

    Jews were prominent among those trained in psychological warfare at Camp Ritchie, Maryland, beginning in 1942. They were motivated by hatred, and as Norman Finkelstein is on record as saying, Jews never turn away from hate.

    Jews were therefore prominent in the cadres who worked (contrary to the wishes of the US Congress and War department) in the postwar era to impose “modern” literary and art forms on the German people. While the US War department “maintained a monopoly on violence” over the German people — in addition to control over their caloric intake and housing (a lot like the way Israel controls Gaza), CIA and Jews removed from German institutions books and art that the Jews objected to, and replaced those cultural expressions with “modern” art and literature preferred by the CIA and Jewish occupiers/”Morgenthau’s Boys.”

    The German people objected to cultural innovations Jews brought to German during the Weimar era and took legislative measures to regain control over their culture. FDR, Churchill and Jews reversed that effort; they first destroyed German cities and historic buildings thru firebombing; then destroyed the German people thru firebombing, rape, starvation, exposure, and population transfer; then destroyed the German soul through sustained brainwashing — psychological warfare, for which Jewish teenagers trained at Camp Ritchie to carry out policies that Henry Morgenthau, Jr. devised, with FDR’s and Churchill’s acquiescence.

    So it’s no surprise that Wikipedia reports that Kafka’s work is praised by “99 experts.” Wikipedia, and Germany, and the German psyche itself, are territories shaped and occupied by Jewish preferences.

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  20. @Mario64
    You forgot to end your comment on Kafka (a Jew) with the salute: Heil Hitler!

    You forgot to end your comment on Kafka (a Jew) with the salute: Heil Hitler!

    But that would be an honor!

    Since (((you))) personally hate him, why don’t (((you))) ask him to boil in excrement?

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  21. JackOH says:

    Linh, thanks. Haven’t been to Germany in years, but it really does seem as though Germans, whether grassroots types or political elites, have thoroughly internalized the “bad German” narrative that’s been foisted on them. The danger to America in that is that we’re getting, in my opinion, an anachronistic, “brittle” tableau of German policies founded on one idea, that of not being naughty.

    They have to get out of their political funk somehow. One top of the head thought is that some enterprising young German journalist put together a tour de force of a popular book: Hitler and the Kaiser’s Positive War Aims. Sounds bat-crap crazy, I know. But, the idea would be to rescue today’s Germans and today’s German policies from the “1914-1945 disease” that seems to infect them.

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    some enterprising young German journalist put together a tour de force of a popular book: Hitler and the Kaiser’s Positive War Aims. Sounds bat-crap crazy, I know. But, the idea would be to rescue today’s Germans and today’s German policies from the “1914-1945 disease” that seems to infect them.
     
    Germar Rudolf has done just that, Jack OH, though he's a Max Plank Institute-calibre chemist, not a journalist.
    see http://holocausthandbooks.com

    and especially

    Lectures on the Holocaust: Controversial Issues Cross Examined pdf





    For his pains Rudolf was denied his PhD, lost his job, career and marriage/family; was imprisoned for almost 5 years, had his home searched several times, books and manuscripts removed, books burned, yes burned. He was forced to flee Germany and now lives in exile in USA.

    The German (((power structure))) invests more effort in keeping German patriots from knowing the truth about their own nation and its suffering than it does protecting its own citizens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtnfyerQ1mo

    Rudolf focuses on scientific arguments demonstrating the impossibility of the dogmatized Auschwitz-gas chamber narrative, but also explores other aspects of the "whole offense" against the German people.
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  22. @JackOH
    Linh, thanks. Haven't been to Germany in years, but it really does seem as though Germans, whether grassroots types or political elites, have thoroughly internalized the "bad German" narrative that's been foisted on them. The danger to America in that is that we're getting, in my opinion, an anachronistic, "brittle" tableau of German policies founded on one idea, that of not being naughty.

    They have to get out of their political funk somehow. One top of the head thought is that some enterprising young German journalist put together a tour de force of a popular book: Hitler and the Kaiser's Positive War Aims. Sounds bat-crap crazy, I know. But, the idea would be to rescue today's Germans and today's German policies from the "1914-1945 disease" that seems to infect them.

    some enterprising young German journalist put together a tour de force of a popular book: Hitler and the Kaiser’s Positive War Aims. Sounds bat-crap crazy, I know. But, the idea would be to rescue today’s Germans and today’s German policies from the “1914-1945 disease” that seems to infect them.

    Germar Rudolf has done just that, Jack OH, though he’s a Max Plank Institute-calibre chemist, not a journalist.
    see http://holocausthandbooks.com

    and especially

    Lectures on the Holocaust: Controversial Issues Cross Examined pdf

    For his pains Rudolf was denied his PhD, lost his job, career and marriage/family; was imprisoned for almost 5 years, had his home searched several times, books and manuscripts removed, books burned, yes burned. He was forced to flee Germany and now lives in exile in USA.

    The German (((power structure))) invests more effort in keeping German patriots from knowing the truth about their own nation and its suffering than it does protecting its own citizens.

    Rudolf focuses on scientific arguments demonstrating the impossibility of the dogmatized Auschwitz-gas chamber narrative, but also explores other aspects of the “whole offense” against the German people.

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    Interestingly, the more I read about Hitler and the Third Reich the more I like the guy.

    That the current Bundesrepublik is a political and judicial cesspool should be obvious to anyone that has read about the persecution and jailing of people that ask non-PC questions about, ahem, certain allegedly historic occurrences.

    And Germar Rudolf's Lectures on the Holocaust is a Tour de Force that should be required reading in all schools.

    Nonetheless, Germany remains a beautiful country with beautiful people as my wife and I determined when we toured there in 2015. HdC
    , @Sherman
    What was that part about your parents teaching you to respect Jews?

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  23. Talha says:
    @utu
    "In other words, they will be doing what Americans have been doing for the past 50 years." - Exactly. America is exporting its social model. The owners found this model very useful. Break the social cohesion, divide people, set them against each other so homo homini lupus est. They found that to accomplish this a multi-ethnic society is much more conducive. Having a hostile and violent minority helps in particular. America had no choice. Slavery was part of the package. But Europe did not have to go this way until apparently Europe is being force to emulate American model.

    They want to create hell on earth promising a paradise.

    Hey utu,

    They want to create hell on earth promising a paradise.

    I have noticed this to be the case with all fanatical utopian visions – religious or secular. Daesh being a prime example from the religious side.

    Peace.

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  24. mh505 says:
    @Linh Dinh

    Thanks, Linh; I stand corrected .)

    However, my point was somewhat different. What I should have said is that this so-called “Machiavellianism” is a term invented by people that never read Machiavelli or studied his life.

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    Hi mh505,

    Since Machiavellianism, what a mouthful, is generally understood as any kind of cynical and devious political maneuvering, my Frankfurt friend is correct in using it here, and I'm sure he's read The Prince. I too have read it, but that was 30 years ago, so my knowledge of Machiavelli is hazy at best. I'll suggest that one can understand Machiavelliansim very well without even knowing who Machiavelli is, for isn't nearly all of politics Macchiavellianism? Believing fervently in their favorite politician, be it Obama, Hillary, Bernie or Trump, many Americans obviously disagree.


    Linh

    , @SolontoCroesus
    In 2000 Brian Lamb interviewed Maurizio Viroli, who is an expert on Machiavelli.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?160904-1/niccolos-smile

    In the opening minutes Viroli explained the differing perceptions of "Machiavelli" and the origin of the name when used as a slur.

    hint: The Jesuits did it.

    Fuller story: Niccolò Machiavelli was the opposite of a "Machiavellian."

    Machiavellianism vs Niccolò

    calculators vs passionate
    adapt to circumstances vs fighting against conventional political future
    winners vs loser
    fight for what think can get vs fighting for grand ideas


    ---

    Thanks, Linh, for a sound, tho dispiriting, insight into today's Germany.

    If liberalism means the grand intellectual enterprise it started out to be in Renaissance Italy and enlightened Germany, then the next cohort to be supported by liberals as they come out of the closet would be history's truth-tellers, aka holocaust revisionists -- a Niccolò-ian project.
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  25. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @mh505
    Thanks, Linh; I stand corrected .)

    However, my point was somewhat different. What I should have said is that this so-called "Machiavellianism" is a term invented by people that never read Machiavelli or studied his life.

    Hi mh505,

    Since Machiavellianism, what a mouthful, is generally understood as any kind of cynical and devious political maneuvering, my Frankfurt friend is correct in using it here, and I’m sure he’s read The Prince. I too have read it, but that was 30 years ago, so my knowledge of Machiavelli is hazy at best. I’ll suggest that one can understand Machiavelliansim very well without even knowing who Machiavelli is, for isn’t nearly all of politics Macchiavellianism? Believing fervently in their favorite politician, be it Obama, Hillary, Bernie or Trump, many Americans obviously disagree.

    Linh

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    "Believing fervently in their favorite politician,"

    I don't think M was a politician in anywhere like the modern meaning of the term.
    He was a member of the Florentine City Council.
    Just because he described what he observed in the way "politics" was done---power was gained and used---doesn't mean he himself was unscrupulous.
    The Prince can be read as a "defense" handbook. In fact, that is probably how it should be read.
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  26. @mh505
    Thanks, Linh; I stand corrected .)

    However, my point was somewhat different. What I should have said is that this so-called "Machiavellianism" is a term invented by people that never read Machiavelli or studied his life.

    In 2000 Brian Lamb interviewed Maurizio Viroli, who is an expert on Machiavelli.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?160904-1/niccolos-smile

    In the opening minutes Viroli explained the differing perceptions of “Machiavelli” and the origin of the name when used as a slur.

    hint: The Jesuits did it.

    Fuller story: Niccolò Machiavelli was the opposite of a “Machiavellian.”

    Machiavellianism vs Niccolò

    calculators vs passionate
    adapt to circumstances vs fighting against conventional political future
    winners vs loser
    fight for what think can get vs fighting for grand ideas

    Thanks, Linh, for a sound, tho dispiriting, insight into today’s Germany.

    If liberalism means the grand intellectual enterprise it started out to be in Renaissance Italy and enlightened Germany, then the next cohort to be supported by liberals as they come out of the closet would be history’s truth-tellers, aka holocaust revisionists – a Niccolò-ian project.

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    Thanks, mh505 and SolontoCroesus, for pointing out how Machiavelli has been deformed in the popular imagination. Though all historical figures are turned into cartoons, most are not inverted, so poor Niccolò got a pretty raw deal!
    , @iffen
    history’s truth-tellers, aka holocaust revisionists

    Speaking of Orwellian doublespeak.
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  27. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @SolontoCroesus
    In 2000 Brian Lamb interviewed Maurizio Viroli, who is an expert on Machiavelli.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?160904-1/niccolos-smile

    In the opening minutes Viroli explained the differing perceptions of "Machiavelli" and the origin of the name when used as a slur.

    hint: The Jesuits did it.

    Fuller story: Niccolò Machiavelli was the opposite of a "Machiavellian."

    Machiavellianism vs Niccolò

    calculators vs passionate
    adapt to circumstances vs fighting against conventional political future
    winners vs loser
    fight for what think can get vs fighting for grand ideas


    ---

    Thanks, Linh, for a sound, tho dispiriting, insight into today's Germany.

    If liberalism means the grand intellectual enterprise it started out to be in Renaissance Italy and enlightened Germany, then the next cohort to be supported by liberals as they come out of the closet would be history's truth-tellers, aka holocaust revisionists -- a Niccolò-ian project.

    Thanks, mh505 and SolontoCroesus, for pointing out how Machiavelli has been deformed in the popular imagination. Though all historical figures are turned into cartoons, most are not inverted, so poor Niccolò got a pretty raw deal!

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    Yes indeed, SolontoCroesus; Machiavelli has been - and still is - maligned widely, by a broad phalanx of hypocrites. Linh nails it - he got a raw deal; and worst of all in his own lifetime when he was thrown into prison by the Medici and repeatedly "put to the rope".

    For those of you interested I would recommend the novel "The Enchantress of Florence" by Salman Rushdie whose imagined Machiavelli to me looks rather historical.

    https://www.amazon.com/Enchantress-Florence-Novel-Salman-Rushdie/dp/0679640517/ref=sr_1_1/157-6035736-3362046?ie=UTF8&qid=1482865118&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Enchantress+of+Florence
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  28. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Kafka would know, wouldn't he?

    He lived at home for most of his life.
    It's likely "Metamorphoses" was Kafka's reflection on his relationship with his father -- in Kafka's tortured mind, his helplessness was invisible to his authoritarian father. Kafka was an adult, not a child, when he thought himself a helpless bug.

    Kafka was sexually dysfunctional --


    Kafka was never married. According to Brod, Kafka was "tortured" by sexual desire[55] and Kafka's biographer Reiner Stach states that his life was full of "incessant womanising" and that he was filled with a fear of "sexual failure".[56] He visited brothels for most of his adult life[57][58][59] and was interested in pornography.[55] In addition, he had close relationships with several women during his life.
     
    hardly the person to "expose the German people's attitude toward authority."

    which forces one to consider that much of what we think we know about German attitudes toward authority, at least before Jews, FDR and Churchill exploited them, starved them, bombed them, murdered them and brainwashed them over the course of 125 years and counting, is mostly Jewish and Anglo propaganda.

    USAians really ought to wise up to these historic realities: the same tactics are being carried out agains the much more malleable and authority-worshipping USA sheeple.

    When a Chertoff-trained TSA apparatchik orders you to take your shoes off, what do you do?

    At least the German people summoned the balls to organize around their common national identity and wage war against their oppressors.

    The irrationally tyranical father is most memorably depicted by Kafka in “The Judgement,” where a son is condemed to death by his raving dad:

    “So now you know what else there was in the world besides yourself, till now you’ve known only about yourself! An innocent child, yes, that you were, truly, but still more truly have you been a devilish human being!–And therefore take note: I sentence you now to death by drowning!”

    The doofus complied by jumping off a bridge.

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  29. HdC says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    some enterprising young German journalist put together a tour de force of a popular book: Hitler and the Kaiser’s Positive War Aims. Sounds bat-crap crazy, I know. But, the idea would be to rescue today’s Germans and today’s German policies from the “1914-1945 disease” that seems to infect them.
     
    Germar Rudolf has done just that, Jack OH, though he's a Max Plank Institute-calibre chemist, not a journalist.
    see http://holocausthandbooks.com

    and especially

    Lectures on the Holocaust: Controversial Issues Cross Examined pdf





    For his pains Rudolf was denied his PhD, lost his job, career and marriage/family; was imprisoned for almost 5 years, had his home searched several times, books and manuscripts removed, books burned, yes burned. He was forced to flee Germany and now lives in exile in USA.

    The German (((power structure))) invests more effort in keeping German patriots from knowing the truth about their own nation and its suffering than it does protecting its own citizens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtnfyerQ1mo

    Rudolf focuses on scientific arguments demonstrating the impossibility of the dogmatized Auschwitz-gas chamber narrative, but also explores other aspects of the "whole offense" against the German people.

    Interestingly, the more I read about Hitler and the Third Reich the more I like the guy.

    That the current Bundesrepublik is a political and judicial cesspool should be obvious to anyone that has read about the persecution and jailing of people that ask non-PC questions about, ahem, certain allegedly historic occurrences.

    And Germar Rudolf’s Lectures on the Holocaust is a Tour de Force that should be required reading in all schools.

    Nonetheless, Germany remains a beautiful country with beautiful people as my wife and I determined when we toured there in 2015. HdC

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  30. Talha says:

    Mr. Dinh, I totally agree with your sentiment that “I don’t blame Muslims”. Certainly, not all Muslims are to blame, but some are. Everyone is a moral actor and just because one’s society has been trashed (like Syria, Libya, etc.) by war, that does not give any Muslim refugee the right to come to host countries and rape, sell drugs, etc.

    And poverty is not an excuse either – I have traveled – as you have – through the third world and seen people that don’t have much. But they do not automatically become misanthropic or criminal – many of them are shockingly generous! Is it the trauma? I don’t know…but I do know that roving gangs of unemployed young German men would not be tolerated in Morocco, especially if they were threatening the women of that society.

    Also, did you take that picture of that figure/doll at that angle and lighting on purpose? It looks super-freaky – like it came walking out of the Uncanny Valley.

    Peace.

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  31. Linh Dinh says: • Website

    Hi Tahla,

    Yes, I took the photo. The display depicts a Brothers Grimm story, “Die Sterntaler” ["The Star Money"]. Here’s a translation I found online:

    The Star Talers
    Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm

    Once upon a time there was a little girl whose father and mother had died, and she was so poor that she no longer had a room to live in, nor a bed to sleep in, and at last she had nothing else but the clothes she was wearing and a little piece of bread in her hand that some charitable soul had given her. She was good and pious, however. And as she was thus forsaken by all the world, she went forth into the country, trusting in dear God.

    Then a poor man met her, who said, “Ah, give me something to eat, I am so hungry.”

    She handed him her entire piece of bread, saying, “May God bless it for you,” and went on her way.

    Then came a child who moaned and said, “My head is so cold. Give me something to cover it with.” So she took off her cap and gave it to the child. And when she had walked a little farther, she met another child who had no jacket and was freezing. So she gave her jacket to that child, and a little farther on one begged for a dress, and she gave her dress away as well. At length she made her way into a forest and it was already dark. Then there came yet another child, and asked for a shift, and the pious girl thought to herself, “It is a dark night and no one can see you. You can very well give your shift away,” and she took it off, and gave it away as well.

    And thus she stood there, with nothing left at all, when suddenly some stars fell down from heaven, and they were nothing else but hard shining talers, and although she had just given her shift away, she was now wearing a new one which was of the very finest linen. Then she gathered together the money into it, and was rich all the days of her life.

    [Translated by Margaret Hunt (1884). Translation corrected and revised by D. L. Ashliman. © 2000.]

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    For some reason this story reminds me of Grave of the Fireflies, a "must see."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies
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  32. mh505 says:
    @Linh Dinh
    Thanks, mh505 and SolontoCroesus, for pointing out how Machiavelli has been deformed in the popular imagination. Though all historical figures are turned into cartoons, most are not inverted, so poor Niccolò got a pretty raw deal!

    Yes indeed, SolontoCroesus; Machiavelli has been – and still is – maligned widely, by a broad phalanx of hypocrites. Linh nails it – he got a raw deal; and worst of all in his own lifetime when he was thrown into prison by the Medici and repeatedly “put to the rope”.

    For those of you interested I would recommend the novel “The Enchantress of Florence” by Salman Rushdie whose imagined Machiavelli to me looks rather historical.

    https://www.amazon.com/Enchantress-Florence-Novel-Salman-Rushdie/dp/0679640517/ref=sr_1_1/157-6035736-3362046?ie=UTF8&qid=1482865118&sr=8-1&keywords=The+Enchantress+of+Florence

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  33. Linh Dinh says: • Website

    Russia Today, 12/27/16:

    Refugee suspects surrender to police after homeless man set on fire in Berlin

    The suspects accused of setting a homeless person on fire in the Berlin underground have been identified as refugees from Syria and Libya, police confirmed. Six of them surrendered to police, while the seventh was arrested in a police operation.

    “Six suspects turned themselves in at various police stations [Monday] evening, [and] another suspect was arrested last night by undercover investigators,” an official police release said.

    The seven young men allegedly set a homeless person on fire as he slept at the Berlin Schonleinstrasse station overnight into Christmas Day on Sunday, police say.

    The attackers fled the scene, but the victim survived without any injuries after passersby helped to extinguish the flames.

    Following the incident, police released images of the perpetrators, asking locals to help identify them. Law enforcement officials qualified the incident as an “attempted murder,” and announced that an investigation was underway.

    Police have now been able to establish the identities of all of the suspects, and have stated the men are all refugees aged between 15 and 21.

    “The seven suspects are all young men between 15 and 21 years of age,” Thomas Neuendorf, deputy head of the Berlin police press office, told Ruptly video agency.

    “Six of the suspects were born in Syria and one of the suspects was born in Libya. All of the suspects have refugee status here [Germany],” the official said.

    [...]

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    This is a big story in the German MSM, which goes at least some way to prove that the German rabbit is not entirely entranced by the serpent yet.
    I submit that your analysis - or rather, that of your friend - is overstating the case.
    , @The Alarmist
    This is truly a tragedy ... we need to get rid of those cameras!
    , @KenH
    Looks like more innocent Muslim "pawns" are violently acting out over regime change in the Middle East.
    , @Rudel
    This report is obvious Russian fake news, simply saturated with xenophobia, racism, Islamophobia, and nativism. Clearly, this privileged white man made some racist remark to these innocent refugees, who had no choice but to respond as they did. If only white Europeans could work harder on unpacking their invisible knapsacks, and being more tolerant, this sort of unfortunate incident would never occur. They need to remember the 6 million, too, of course. That's very important.
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  34. PeterG says:
    @Linh Dinh
    Russia Today, 12/27/16:

    Refugee suspects surrender to police after homeless man set on fire in Berlin

    The suspects accused of setting a homeless person on fire in the Berlin underground have been identified as refugees from Syria and Libya, police confirmed. Six of them surrendered to police, while the seventh was arrested in a police operation.

    “Six suspects turned themselves in at various police stations [Monday] evening, [and] another suspect was arrested last night by undercover investigators,” an official police release said.

    The seven young men allegedly set a homeless person on fire as he slept at the Berlin Schonleinstrasse station overnight into Christmas Day on Sunday, police say.

    The attackers fled the scene, but the victim survived without any injuries after passersby helped to extinguish the flames.

    Following the incident, police released images of the perpetrators, asking locals to help identify them. Law enforcement officials qualified the incident as an “attempted murder,” and announced that an investigation was underway.

    Police have now been able to establish the identities of all of the suspects, and have stated the men are all refugees aged between 15 and 21.

    "The seven suspects are all young men between 15 and 21 years of age,” Thomas Neuendorf, deputy head of the Berlin police press office, told Ruptly video agency.

    “Six of the suspects were born in Syria and one of the suspects was born in Libya. All of the suspects have refugee status here [Germany]," the official said.

    [...]
     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a33V74tuBqY

    This is a big story in the German MSM, which goes at least some way to prove that the German rabbit is not entirely entranced by the serpent yet.
    I submit that your analysis – or rather, that of your friend – is overstating the case.

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  35. @Linh Dinh
    Russia Today, 12/27/16:

    Refugee suspects surrender to police after homeless man set on fire in Berlin

    The suspects accused of setting a homeless person on fire in the Berlin underground have been identified as refugees from Syria and Libya, police confirmed. Six of them surrendered to police, while the seventh was arrested in a police operation.

    “Six suspects turned themselves in at various police stations [Monday] evening, [and] another suspect was arrested last night by undercover investigators,” an official police release said.

    The seven young men allegedly set a homeless person on fire as he slept at the Berlin Schonleinstrasse station overnight into Christmas Day on Sunday, police say.

    The attackers fled the scene, but the victim survived without any injuries after passersby helped to extinguish the flames.

    Following the incident, police released images of the perpetrators, asking locals to help identify them. Law enforcement officials qualified the incident as an “attempted murder,” and announced that an investigation was underway.

    Police have now been able to establish the identities of all of the suspects, and have stated the men are all refugees aged between 15 and 21.

    "The seven suspects are all young men between 15 and 21 years of age,” Thomas Neuendorf, deputy head of the Berlin police press office, told Ruptly video agency.

    “Six of the suspects were born in Syria and one of the suspects was born in Libya. All of the suspects have refugee status here [Germany]," the official said.

    [...]
     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a33V74tuBqY

    This is truly a tragedy … we need to get rid of those cameras!

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  36. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Dinh, here’s a good read for starting the new year, Denkwürdigkeiten eines Nervenkranken by Schreber (don’t know if it has been translated into English).

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    My favorite German nutcase is Adolf Wölfli.
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  37. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Anon
    Dinh, here's a good read for starting the new year, Denkwürdigkeiten eines Nervenkranken by Schreber (don't know if it has been translated into English).

    My favorite German nutcase is Adolf Wölfli.

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    Wölfli was Suiss.

    You might have a look at Georg Bernhard Müller instead (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Müller_vom_Siel)
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  38. neutral says:
    @Anonymous
    Why should Kafka's Jewishness or non-Jewishness (he self-identified as non-observant Jew, stopped participating after Bar Mitzvah) be pertinent?
    Haven't read Castle, but study of other of Kafka's works and life suggests he was not a well-grounded personality -- he was diagnosed schizophrenic, he was anorexic, he had other weird habits. Was all that because he was Jewish, or German, or because he was born in Prague?

    What do you do when TSA orders that you take off your shoes, or submit to an X Ray or physical search?

    USA needs someone like Hitler to remind USAians of their dignity and encourage them not to allow themselves to be humiliated.

    Why should Kafka’s Jewishness or non-Jewishness (he self-identified as non-observant Jew, stopped participating after Bar Mitzvah) be pertinent?

    It generally should be considered to be the most pertinent thing of them all. Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.

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    Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints.
     
    I have to agree with that.

    For example, US Jews are mostly ethnic European but claim to be Semitic, are disliked by the more Semitic Mizrahis, are viewed by the Arabs (Semites) as European colonialists, while at the same time having a strong desire to be more European than European but leading the attack on ethnic European Americans.
    , @Skeptikal
    " not really belonging to the society you live in "

    You sound ignorant.
    Do you know anything about Prague, the German community in Prague, etc.?
    The Germans and German culture were dominant in Prague. That included a large Jewish community. German secular Jews in Prague were in a similar position to secular Jews in Berlin. Prague was the location of the first "German" university (Bohemia at the time of foundation, later part of the Austro-Hungarian empire). Etc.

    , @Randal

    Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.
     
    Like "rootless cosmopolitans"?

    [I used the link to the Wikipedia piece to illustrate my comment for anyone who hadn't come across the term before, as I often do, and scanned it when doing so. In the process I spotted this fascinating detail that refers to something I haven't come across previously, which seems very interesting in relation to the modern debates over internet anonymity;

    "The campaign included a crusade in the state-controlled mass media to expose literary pseudonyms, which were used by many Jews, by putting real names in parenthesis.[9][10] However, Stalin is said to have spoken against this and the practice of revealing pseudonyms stopped.[10]"]
    , @SolontoCroesus

    It [Jewishness] generally should be considered to be the most pertinent thing of them all.
     
    Agreed; Jewishness is at the heart of Kafka's writing.
    Anonymous got it wrong.

    Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.
     
    BUT Kafka's conflicts and complaints were not directed at the "society he lived in" but at his father.

    One commentator of the "Jewish conflict in Kafka's writing" used this passage, from a letter Franz wrote to his pal Max Brod, in 1921, a few years before he died:

    “Most young Jews who wanted to write German wanted to leave Jewishness behind them, and their fathers approved of this, but vaguely (this vagueness was what was outrageous to them). But with their posterior legs they were still glued to their father’s Jewishness and with their waving anterior legs they found no new ground. The ensuing despair became their inspiration.”
     
    Jews were accepted in the "society they lived in" in Prague; Jews controlled much of the wealth of Prague; Jews were in the military in Praque, where their kosher diet was respected.

    Jewish children were encouraged by their fathers to participate in the surrounding secular society but the same fathers -- or at least, Franz's father -- also enjoined upon sonny the necessity to remain "glued to their father's Jewishness." A father-son conflict, one of Hebrew scripture's oft-treated themes, and, more recently, the context of Ivan Turgenev's "Fathers and Sons."

    The problem resided not with the surrounding "society" but with the individual or his collective/community.

    It's possible to view the Jew-vs-assimilated German conflict in terms of the most significant events in Jewish mytho-religion -- the events at Mt. Sinai, when Moses received the Commandments from Yahweh.

    The familiar narrative: Moses went up the mountain, got the tablets, came back down, saw the children of the Hebrews had made a golden calf, many were clamoring to return to Egypt where life was easier; Moses, pissed, smashed the tablets.

    A closer reading reveals that, yes, Moses smashed the tablets but also that he called for volunteers to kill the apostate calf-builders and would-be returnees to Egypt. The Levites stepped forward and slew their fellow Hebrews.

    The conflict that beset Franz, and his father, was between going for the gold or obeying the commands of Yahweh. Disobeying Yahweh came at a steep price: the Levites, your fellow Jews, will kill you.

    At one brief point in his life Kafka flirted with zionism: it seemed to resolve the conflict between the demands of Yahweh and the lure of gold, but Kafka was unable to make the commitment and eventually rejected zionism.

    The boasts that Israelis, and Jews, both in Israel and in the diaspora, make of zionist Israel; that is, that it is "start-up nation," and smarter and wealthier than everybody else, witness that zionism has unambiguously embraced the golden calf. Zionism is secular, not religious, but zionism, and Israel, remain a society in conflict with its own identity, a conflict it blames on the surrounding societies, just as Neutral did, and just as Jews in Germany in the Weimar years did, and just as those Jews who seek the destruction of Iran do.





    Neutral misinterpreted the nature of the identity crisis Kafka exhibited and wrote about, but Neutral did identify one of the unique ways that Jews react to such an internal conflict and identity crisis:

    [they] come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.
     
    In Turgenev, the nihilist Bazarov kills only himself, not his father nor "the whole society."
    Dostoevsky's Pavel Smerdyakov kills his father, which act causes acute suffering for the rest of the Karamazov sons, but he does not "totally demolish the whole society."

    In the Jewish mythological set, however, the "whole society" is made to suffer, and is "demolished," when Jews suffer an identity crisis.

    In "The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit" E. Michael Jones introduces his thesis by noting that Jews "rejected logos." In my view Jones is too harsh, and entangles himself in supercessionism. But Kafka's central conflict and thesis are quite similar and within the specifically Jewish scriptural context -- i.e. at Mt. Sinai, the worshipers of the golden calf rejected the commandments of Yahweh and were slain by their fellow Jews.

    At Mt. Sinai, the Levites did not "demolish the whole society," however. Zionism, on the other hand, having rejected logos, or Yahweh's commandments, zionism has burst all restraints. Coupled with the universal tendency to identify a scapegoat for one's own internal distress, the rest of the world is imperiled by zionism gone wild, a nuclear-armed, heavily militarized, golden calf-worshiping, identity-conflicted ideology of "twisted viewpoints" intent on "demolishing society."
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  39. Wally says: • Website
    @Mario64
    You forgot to end your comment on Kafka (a Jew) with the salute: Heil Hitler!

    Yawn.

    Well, there were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    [MORE]

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869?

    The ’6,000,000 Jews’ lie and the laughing Mexican:

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  40. @Linh Dinh
    Hi Tahla,

    Yes, I took the photo. The display depicts a Brothers Grimm story, "Die Sterntaler" ["The Star Money"]. Here's a translation I found online:

    The Star Talers
    Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm

    Once upon a time there was a little girl whose father and mother had died, and she was so poor that she no longer had a room to live in, nor a bed to sleep in, and at last she had nothing else but the clothes she was wearing and a little piece of bread in her hand that some charitable soul had given her. She was good and pious, however. And as she was thus forsaken by all the world, she went forth into the country, trusting in dear God.

    Then a poor man met her, who said, "Ah, give me something to eat, I am so hungry."

    She handed him her entire piece of bread, saying, "May God bless it for you," and went on her way.

    Then came a child who moaned and said, "My head is so cold. Give me something to cover it with." So she took off her cap and gave it to the child. And when she had walked a little farther, she met another child who had no jacket and was freezing. So she gave her jacket to that child, and a little farther on one begged for a dress, and she gave her dress away as well. At length she made her way into a forest and it was already dark. Then there came yet another child, and asked for a shift, and the pious girl thought to herself, "It is a dark night and no one can see you. You can very well give your shift away," and she took it off, and gave it away as well.

    And thus she stood there, with nothing left at all, when suddenly some stars fell down from heaven, and they were nothing else but hard shining talers, and although she had just given her shift away, she was now wearing a new one which was of the very finest linen. Then she gathered together the money into it, and was rich all the days of her life.

    [Translated by Margaret Hunt (1884). Translation corrected and revised by D. L. Ashliman. © 2000.]

    For some reason this story reminds me of Grave of the Fireflies, a “must see.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies

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    Absolutely, but keep tissues handy - you may need them. It had me tearing up from the initial scene.

    Peace.

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  41. polistra says:

    I’d only argue one point.

    quoting: ABOVE ALL THINGS, a new Third Reich has to be prevented! So all aspects of nationalism or even patriotism are bad, because patriotism can lead to chauvinism, which leads to Fascism, which leads to Auschwitz, and Auschwitz must never happen again! end quote

    Good analysis of the chain of association. In fact nationalism didn’t cause WW2; German imperialism caused WW2, just as German imperialism caused WW1 without any Nazi connections at all.

    The EU used this chain to justify the NEW German imperialism, via EU mechanisms. This German imperialism is the same as the previous two editions. It uses the same economic blackmail to subdue the rest of Europe and Russia, followed by military action (via NATO) when the blackmail fails to subdue a country. This may explain why Germans have been contented with the new arrangement for so long. It’s comfortable.

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    The EU used this chain to justify the NEW German imperialism, via EU mechanisms. This German imperialism is the same as the previous two editions. It uses the same economic blackmail to subdue the rest of Europe and Russia, followed by military action (via NATO) when the blackmail fails to subdue a country. This may explain why Germans have been contented with the new arrangement for so long. It’s comfortable.
     
    Bingo! The EU is really just an economic Fourth Reich. Most of the Germans themselves have been lulled into complacency on this point by being bombarded with political correctness all the time. 'Since we have renounced nationalism,' they are told, 'we can't possibly be a Fourth Reich.' Other Europeans, however, are now starting to catch on. It will be interesting to see how they react ...
    , @Quern
    Sorry, but, er, no.

    WW One was caused by the inability of our neighbors France and Britain, to leave us alone. Just like again and again, it was mainly a French aggression against Germany, as had been the normal cause of Events since 1552.

    Britain, OTOH, was afraid of economic competition. I could go on.
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  42. Miro23 says:
    @neutral

    Why should Kafka’s Jewishness or non-Jewishness (he self-identified as non-observant Jew, stopped participating after Bar Mitzvah) be pertinent?
     
    It generally should be considered to be the most pertinent thing of them all. Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.

    Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints.

    I have to agree with that.

    For example, US Jews are mostly ethnic European but claim to be Semitic, are disliked by the more Semitic Mizrahis, are viewed by the Arabs (Semites) as European colonialists, while at the same time having a strong desire to be more European than European but leading the attack on ethnic European Americans.

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  43. Brabantian says: • Website

    Regarding the yet-again-almost-magically ‘found ID / passport’ at the 19 Dec Berlin events – at which also present by ‘coincidence’ – “Only ten minutes before the truck drove into the booths, Professor Shlomo Shpiro, a terrorist expert at the University of Bar-Ilan in Tel Aviv, strolled in the same Christmas market.”

    This was actually at least the 5th ‘found ID – passport’ amidst ‘terrorism’
    (1) – 11 Sep 2001 passport in ‘NYC towers rubble’ tho aeroplanes otherwise vapourised
    (2) – 7 Jan 2015 Charlie Hebdo shootings, ‘passport left in car’ in front of Paris Jewish deli used for Mossad meetings
    (3) – 13 Nov 2015 Bataclan nightclub massacre Paris ‘passport flew out of his clothes as killer exploded his suicide vest’
    (4) – 14 Jul 2016 Nice France lorry killings ‘passport found’
    (5) – 19 Dec 2016 Berlin Christmas market lorry killings ‘ID found’, after 24 hours of searching truck cab

    Survey of the spooky Berlin lorry killing anomalies on the site of UK researcher Aangirfan … also recalling the 1986 Berlin disco bombing falsely blamed on Libya but apparently also Gladio – CIA – Mossad:

    http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/berlin-market-attack-false-flag-inside.html

    Here’s French comedian Jean-Marie Bigard, awake to the truth, theatrically pouncing upon the ‘magic passport of 9/11′ along with some other absurdities of the official story … English subtitles, 9 minutes:

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    My dear Brabantian, it is far from uncommon to find documents amid or around what had been explosions or flaming wreckage.

    During WWII, U.S. Navy sailors fairly often found the ID's of the Japanese kamikaze pilots who'd crashed their bomb-laden planes into the sailors' ships.

    As for fires, I've known scores of professional firemen who never ceased to be amazed at the variety of items they found inside and around buildings that had burned with what appeared to be all-consuming intensity - the movement of air around fires often has odd effects on various sorts of matter. In WWII bombing campaigns, the survivors and rescuers of the bombed people and buildings often found the oddest items - including documents and other kinds of lightweight matter - miles from blast and fire.

    Blast also does strange things to matter of all sorts. It even kills people without leaving so much as a scratch on their bodies, and often without changing the deceased's final living posture, although blast more often shifts all sorts of matter to places within, near to, and far from an explosion.

    Even powerful non-explosive, non-inflamed impacts have curious effects on all sorts of matter. A vehicular impact can move items from one location inside it into the most obscure environs of a vehicle's interior, or can move items from within a vehicle to what are seemingly incongruous places outside a vehicle.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    Individuals who have gone haywire and are committing horrible acts of murder etc, often hope for someone to stop them as they are unable to stop themselves.

    They will then deliberately deposit/lose clues such as ID at a crime scene, in hopes that they will then be apprehended and deterred from any further evil doings.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    , @Durruti
    Many thanks for the link to French Comedian Jean-Marie Bigard. He is as humorous, as the courageous Dieudonné.

    The fight to Restore the American Republic, destroyed in the First Modern Arab Spring operation by the Zionist Oligarchs, Rothschilds, et. al., MOSSAD/CIA, on November 22, 1963, is the Only Road out of this mess.

    A sovereign - independent United States can disarm the Zionists, restore Palestine, and stabilize the World - in Peace & Justice.

    Keep the VISION in 2017.

    God Bless! and Merry Christmas! to all.
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  44. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Linh Dinh
    My favorite German nutcase is Adolf Wölfli.

    Wölfli was Suiss.

    You might have a look at Georg Bernhard Müller instead (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Müller_vom_Siel)

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    I know, but he was a German speaker, no? Similarly, Kafka is considered a German writer though a Prague resident. Bozen is still a German town, though in Italy and called Bolzano now.
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  45. Joooooooooooooooooo

    Oh no what a outrage

    Hbbs luv anjools!!!

    They are nothing to do with it

    It’s just Muslim cousin marriages. It’s just white pathological altruism!!!!

    Hainal lines explain EVERYTHING!!!!! Look to the Map!!!

    Anjoools have

    Higher verbal IQ

    Super big achievements (I hope they are accounting freudism, Marxism, Christianism, mohamedism)

    They score higher in “personality g factor”…

    Thank you hbd!!! Five, six years and now I’m knowledgeable in Jewish personality and intelligence,ops, IQ!!! 8-)

    Stop to “accuse” them!!! Please!!!

    Nothing to do with too much white matter in their frontal lobes or anything similar…

    They are like us but brighter, successful, motivated and yes, they are naive!!

    Just like Hispanics or blacks who are overwhelming liberals!!! Just like… ⌒.⌒

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  46. Talha says:
    @jacques sheete
    For some reason this story reminds me of Grave of the Fireflies, a "must see."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies

    Absolutely, but keep tissues handy – you may need them. It had me tearing up from the initial scene.

    Peace.

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  47. Skeptikal says:
    @1percenter
    Is it not true that the 1% rape the least? So they are the good people. Linh Dinh and friend should come out an insist on this.

    Hmm, the precedents to a possible pizzagate situation suggest that the 1% might rape the most.

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  48. Skeptikal says:
    @Linh Dinh
    Hi mh505,

    Since Machiavellianism, what a mouthful, is generally understood as any kind of cynical and devious political maneuvering, my Frankfurt friend is correct in using it here, and I'm sure he's read The Prince. I too have read it, but that was 30 years ago, so my knowledge of Machiavelli is hazy at best. I'll suggest that one can understand Machiavelliansim very well without even knowing who Machiavelli is, for isn't nearly all of politics Macchiavellianism? Believing fervently in their favorite politician, be it Obama, Hillary, Bernie or Trump, many Americans obviously disagree.


    Linh

    “Believing fervently in their favorite politician,”

    I don’t think M was a politician in anywhere like the modern meaning of the term.
    He was a member of the Florentine City Council.
    Just because he described what he observed in the way “politics” was done—power was gained and used—doesn’t mean he himself was unscrupulous.
    The Prince can be read as a “defense” handbook. In fact, that is probably how it should be read.

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    Hi Skeptikal,

    I never said Machiavelli was a politician.


    Linh
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  49. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Wölfli was Suiss.

    You might have a look at Georg Bernhard Müller instead (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Müller_vom_Siel)

    I know, but he was a German speaker, no? Similarly, Kafka is considered a German writer though a Prague resident. Bozen is still a German town, though in Italy and called Bolzano now.

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    I know, but he was a German speaker, no?

     

    Americans & Canadians speak English - would you call them Brits ?
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  50. Skeptikal says:
    @neutral

    Why should Kafka’s Jewishness or non-Jewishness (he self-identified as non-observant Jew, stopped participating after Bar Mitzvah) be pertinent?
     
    It generally should be considered to be the most pertinent thing of them all. Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.

    ” not really belonging to the society you live in ”

    You sound ignorant.
    Do you know anything about Prague, the German community in Prague, etc.?
    The Germans and German culture were dominant in Prague. That included a large Jewish community. German secular Jews in Prague were in a similar position to secular Jews in Berlin. Prague was the location of the first “German” university (Bohemia at the time of foundation, later part of the Austro-Hungarian empire). Etc.

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    Do you know anything about Prague, the German community in Prague, etc.? The Germans and German culture were dominant in Prague.
     
    And the reason was racial patronage:

    "In the old Austria, nothing could be done without patronage. That's partly explained by the fact that nine million Germans were in fact rulers, in virtue of an unwritten law, of fifty million non-Germans. This German ruling class took strict care that places should always be found for Germans. For them this was the only method of maintaining themselves in this privileged situation. The Balts of German origin behaved in the same way towards the Slav population."
    Hitler's Table Talk, Conversation Nº109 15th-16th January 1942

    The Germans "belonged to society" as an ethnically self serving minority ruling class.

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  51. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Skeptikal
    "Believing fervently in their favorite politician,"

    I don't think M was a politician in anywhere like the modern meaning of the term.
    He was a member of the Florentine City Council.
    Just because he described what he observed in the way "politics" was done---power was gained and used---doesn't mean he himself was unscrupulous.
    The Prince can be read as a "defense" handbook. In fact, that is probably how it should be read.

    Hi Skeptikal,

    I never said Machiavelli was a politician.

    Linh

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    You said, as I cited:
    "“Believing fervently in their favorite politician,”

    That is the relevant line.
    Which was absolutely clear.
    I didn't accuse you of anything.
    I cited what you yourself wrote.
    Sounds like splitting hairs here, LD.
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  52. Sherman says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    some enterprising young German journalist put together a tour de force of a popular book: Hitler and the Kaiser’s Positive War Aims. Sounds bat-crap crazy, I know. But, the idea would be to rescue today’s Germans and today’s German policies from the “1914-1945 disease” that seems to infect them.
     
    Germar Rudolf has done just that, Jack OH, though he's a Max Plank Institute-calibre chemist, not a journalist.
    see http://holocausthandbooks.com

    and especially

    Lectures on the Holocaust: Controversial Issues Cross Examined pdf





    For his pains Rudolf was denied his PhD, lost his job, career and marriage/family; was imprisoned for almost 5 years, had his home searched several times, books and manuscripts removed, books burned, yes burned. He was forced to flee Germany and now lives in exile in USA.

    The German (((power structure))) invests more effort in keeping German patriots from knowing the truth about their own nation and its suffering than it does protecting its own citizens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtnfyerQ1mo

    Rudolf focuses on scientific arguments demonstrating the impossibility of the dogmatized Auschwitz-gas chamber narrative, but also explores other aspects of the "whole offense" against the German people.

    What was that part about your parents teaching you to respect Jews?

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    Stop disrespecting my parents, Sherman.
    , @annamaria
    "Rudolf was denied his PhD, lost his job ... was imprisoned for almost 5 years, had his home searched several times, books and manuscripts removed, books burned..."
    Sounds painfully familiar, does'n it?
    There is a problem of fervent pretense on exceptional morality in the context of the openly authoritarian methods of suppressing any questioning of historical events; plus, of course, the ongoing colonization and wars in the Middle East.
    A documented history of Bolshevism in Russia, which has been sequestered by ALL major publishing houses in the US/UK, is another case in point.
    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
    Not that I am trying to accuse you personally in the obscenity of the Lobby's behavior. But one cannot deny the fact that there used to be a tremendous sympathy of people of the western civilization towards Jewish people, and that this sympathy has been wasted. The 20-th century and the beginning of the 21-st century have been disastrous for the tribe in many respects. Two menacing phenomena, Bolshevism and Zionism, could explain the growing animosity towards Jewish censorship.
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  53. iffen says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    In 2000 Brian Lamb interviewed Maurizio Viroli, who is an expert on Machiavelli.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?160904-1/niccolos-smile

    In the opening minutes Viroli explained the differing perceptions of "Machiavelli" and the origin of the name when used as a slur.

    hint: The Jesuits did it.

    Fuller story: Niccolò Machiavelli was the opposite of a "Machiavellian."

    Machiavellianism vs Niccolò

    calculators vs passionate
    adapt to circumstances vs fighting against conventional political future
    winners vs loser
    fight for what think can get vs fighting for grand ideas


    ---

    Thanks, Linh, for a sound, tho dispiriting, insight into today's Germany.

    If liberalism means the grand intellectual enterprise it started out to be in Renaissance Italy and enlightened Germany, then the next cohort to be supported by liberals as they come out of the closet would be history's truth-tellers, aka holocaust revisionists -- a Niccolò-ian project.

    history’s truth-tellers, aka holocaust revisionists

    Speaking of Orwellian doublespeak.

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  54. Randal says:
    @neutral

    Why should Kafka’s Jewishness or non-Jewishness (he self-identified as non-observant Jew, stopped participating after Bar Mitzvah) be pertinent?
     
    It generally should be considered to be the most pertinent thing of them all. Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.

    Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.

    Like “rootless cosmopolitans“?

    [I used the link to the Wikipedia piece to illustrate my comment for anyone who hadn't come across the term before, as I often do, and scanned it when doing so. In the process I spotted this fascinating detail that refers to something I haven't come across previously, which seems very interesting in relation to the modern debates over internet anonymity;

    "The campaign included a crusade in the state-controlled mass media to expose literary pseudonyms, which were used by many Jews, by putting real names in parenthesis.[9][10] However, Stalin is said to have spoken against this and the practice of revealing pseudonyms stopped.[10]“]

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    Stalin is said to have spoken against this and the practice of revealing pseudonyms stopped.
     
    I wish I had the time to investigate that because if true ( and it probably is) then it's a hoot because "Stalin" itself was one of his many pseudonyms, and the Bolslhies were pretty creative with such things as well. (As I'm sure you already know.)
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  55. Skeptikal says:
    @Linh Dinh
    Hi Skeptikal,

    I never said Machiavelli was a politician.


    Linh

    You said, as I cited:
    ““Believing fervently in their favorite politician,”

    That is the relevant line.
    Which was absolutely clear.
    I didn’t accuse you of anything.
    I cited what you yourself wrote.
    Sounds like splitting hairs here, LD.

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    I'm talking about many Americans “believing fervently in their favorite politician,” and ignoring the near ubiquity of "Machiavellianism" in politics. There is nothing in this passage about Machiavelli, the man.
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  56. @Brabantian
    Regarding the yet-again-almost-magically 'found ID / passport' at the 19 Dec Berlin events - at which also present by 'coincidence' - "Only ten minutes before the truck drove into the booths, Professor Shlomo Shpiro, a terrorist expert at the University of Bar-Ilan in Tel Aviv, strolled in the same Christmas market."

    This was actually at least the 5th 'found ID - passport' amidst 'terrorism'
    (1) - 11 Sep 2001 passport in 'NYC towers rubble' tho aeroplanes otherwise vapourised
    (2) - 7 Jan 2015 Charlie Hebdo shootings, 'passport left in car' in front of Paris Jewish deli used for Mossad meetings
    (3) - 13 Nov 2015 Bataclan nightclub massacre Paris 'passport flew out of his clothes as killer exploded his suicide vest'
    (4) - 14 Jul 2016 Nice France lorry killings 'passport found'
    (5) - 19 Dec 2016 Berlin Christmas market lorry killings 'ID found', after 24 hours of searching truck cab

    Survey of the spooky Berlin lorry killing anomalies on the site of UK researcher Aangirfan ... also recalling the 1986 Berlin disco bombing falsely blamed on Libya but apparently also Gladio - CIA - Mossad:
    http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/berlin-market-attack-false-flag-inside.html

    Here's French comedian Jean-Marie Bigard, awake to the truth, theatrically pouncing upon the 'magic passport of 9/11' along with some other absurdities of the official story ... English subtitles, 9 minutes:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzAzYR-6NiI

    My dear Brabantian, it is far from uncommon to find documents amid or around what had been explosions or flaming wreckage.

    During WWII, U.S. Navy sailors fairly often found the ID’s of the Japanese kamikaze pilots who’d crashed their bomb-laden planes into the sailors’ ships.

    As for fires, I’ve known scores of professional firemen who never ceased to be amazed at the variety of items they found inside and around buildings that had burned with what appeared to be all-consuming intensity – the movement of air around fires often has odd effects on various sorts of matter. In WWII bombing campaigns, the survivors and rescuers of the bombed people and buildings often found the oddest items – including documents and other kinds of lightweight matter – miles from blast and fire.

    Blast also does strange things to matter of all sorts. It even kills people without leaving so much as a scratch on their bodies, and often without changing the deceased’s final living posture, although blast more often shifts all sorts of matter to places within, near to, and far from an explosion.

    Even powerful non-explosive, non-inflamed impacts have curious effects on all sorts of matter. A vehicular impact can move items from one location inside it into the most obscure environs of a vehicle’s interior, or can move items from within a vehicle to what are seemingly incongruous places outside a vehicle.

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    " . . . [F]ar from uncommon to find documents amid or around what had been explosions or flaming wreckage."

    True. I was a high school student custodial worker. We disposed of trash by burning in a large gas-fired incinerator. Bound publications, such as college catalogs, would remain intact with only burnt edges and spines. My memory's dim, but I'm confident individual, unbound papers also occasionally survived depending on their location within the flames. We used over-sized pokers to stir the unburnt paper, which mostly did burn eventually.

    I've been through houses that have been used for firefighters' training fires. The houses were empty of belongings. Although the houses gave the impression of being completely engulfed, there were areas in the rubble and ash that clearly had not been burned.
    , @Skeptikal
    I do not find this information surprising, that a blast causes all kinds of strange effects and burns some things and leaves some others unburned, leaves some close to the scene of the blast and carries others miles away, etc.
    But I do find surprising, and I believe it is a statistical anomaly (though I am not a statistician, so . . .) that in each case of a terrorist attack, the specific item that a blast caused to behave in a putatively bizarre and unpredictable fashion in fact behaved in just the fashion that was needed to prove a particular case and landed at the feet of those who had a particular case to prove . . .
    , @Dumbo
    I don't think the fact that the passport was not destroyed in the action is surprising.

    What I find strange is that all terrorists (or "terrorists"?) seem to carry their passport with them to the attacks. Why? Maybe they are afraid to be stopped by police asking for papers before the attack? It is a possibility, but forgetting it on the scene of the crime is a bit too much.
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  57. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Skeptikal
    You said, as I cited:
    "“Believing fervently in their favorite politician,”

    That is the relevant line.
    Which was absolutely clear.
    I didn't accuse you of anything.
    I cited what you yourself wrote.
    Sounds like splitting hairs here, LD.

    I’m talking about many Americans “believing fervently in their favorite politician,” and ignoring the near ubiquity of “Machiavellianism” in politics. There is nothing in this passage about Machiavelli, the man.

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  58. @Randal

    Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.
     
    Like "rootless cosmopolitans"?

    [I used the link to the Wikipedia piece to illustrate my comment for anyone who hadn't come across the term before, as I often do, and scanned it when doing so. In the process I spotted this fascinating detail that refers to something I haven't come across previously, which seems very interesting in relation to the modern debates over internet anonymity;

    "The campaign included a crusade in the state-controlled mass media to expose literary pseudonyms, which were used by many Jews, by putting real names in parenthesis.[9][10] However, Stalin is said to have spoken against this and the practice of revealing pseudonyms stopped.[10]"]

    Stalin is said to have spoken against this and the practice of revealing pseudonyms stopped.

    I wish I had the time to investigate that because if true ( and it probably is) then it’s a hoot because “Stalin” itself was one of his many pseudonyms, and the Bolslhies were pretty creative with such things as well. (As I’m sure you already know.)

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    Indeed. On the one hand it is as you point out consistent with Bolshevik practice in their revolutionary days, but on the other hand I tend to expect routine hypocrisy from people who gain power and so I'd assume that Stalin in power would have a very different attitude to pseudonyms from that held by Stalin as a dissident himself. Much as I don't doubt for a moment that almost all of the politicians and media figures currently enabling or turning a blind eye to the use of "hate speech" laws to suppress dissident opinion would in their young adult days have loudly declared their adherence to the "Voltaire" doctrine ("I hate what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it").

    The Wikipedia piece sources it to a 2002 book about Stalin with which I'm not familiar: The Political Thought of Joseph Stalin, which probably incorporates some interesting new sources of information on the man's thinking. I would probably have read the book if it had been published a few years earlier, but it's probably at least that long since I last read any book on Stalin and I'm not about to take it up again now.
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  59. @Sherman
    What was that part about your parents teaching you to respect Jews?

    Stop disrespecting my parents, Sherman.

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  60. New words/worlds for you

    Racismevil

    Holocaustrue

    Whitevil

    Blackgood

    Helpfugee

    Israelsky

    This are the true mental shapes of this words/worlds in many western confuse/fragile minds if we tend to associate words with most salient/relevance memories/internalized informations or experiences related to them.

    All of this shit happen because many or most of humans simply don’t have the simple habit to the critical-analytical thinking and don’t follow patterns, simple ones, of coherency (they prefer cohenrency ones): Similarities, differences, very simple comparisons. The difficulties I see is: Excess of informations, wise thinkers filtered the real relevant ones; weakness to keep information of different levels of understanding (social, psychological, neurological, genetic) within the head and the most important, very little self awareness or very little extrospection in the case of excessive self centered snowflakes (yes excess of introspection over extrospection, curiosity about exterior world or beyond yourself, also can result in shit…).

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  61. @polistra
    I'd only argue one point.

    quoting: ABOVE ALL THINGS, a new Third Reich has to be prevented! So all aspects of nationalism or even patriotism are bad, because patriotism can lead to chauvinism, which leads to Fascism, which leads to Auschwitz, and Auschwitz must never happen again! end quote

    Good analysis of the chain of association. In fact nationalism didn't cause WW2; German imperialism caused WW2, just as German imperialism caused WW1 without any Nazi connections at all.

    The EU used this chain to justify the NEW German imperialism, via EU mechanisms. This German imperialism is the same as the previous two editions. It uses the same economic blackmail to subdue the rest of Europe and Russia, followed by military action (via NATO) when the blackmail fails to subdue a country. This may explain why Germans have been contented with the new arrangement for so long. It's comfortable.

    The EU used this chain to justify the NEW German imperialism, via EU mechanisms. This German imperialism is the same as the previous two editions. It uses the same economic blackmail to subdue the rest of Europe and Russia, followed by military action (via NATO) when the blackmail fails to subdue a country. This may explain why Germans have been contented with the new arrangement for so long. It’s comfortable.

    Bingo! The EU is really just an economic Fourth Reich. Most of the Germans themselves have been lulled into complacency on this point by being bombarded with political correctness all the time. ‘Since we have renounced nationalism,’ they are told, ‘we can’t possibly be a Fourth Reich.’ Other Europeans, however, are now starting to catch on. It will be interesting to see how they react …

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  62. How is this much different from the American experience? The “experts” in the press and government keep telling us there is no difference in the races. We see for ourselves this is not true, but the establishment keep on pushing this stuff at us. The bodies keep piling up, but the authorities cannot protect us. The enemy is the white liberal.

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  63. The irrationally tyranical father is most memorably depicted by Kafka in “The Judgement,” where a son is condemed to death by his raving dad:

    The irrationality of authority figures in general as well as those who oppose them is on full and astonishing, hideous display in Josephus’ Wars of the Jews.

    And speaking of drowning,

    2. This victory was not sufficient for Antigonus [II]; but he proceeded to that degree of rage, as to treat the dead body of Joseph barbarously; …[and to bring] the principal men that were on Herod’s side to the lake, and there drowned them.

    -Flavius Josephus, The Wars of the Jews, Book 1, chap 17

    This Antigonus was a colorful character. One of the more chaming things he did was to “bite off Hycanus’ ears with his own teeth” so that he could no longer function as high priest again. (Book I, Chp 13, paragraph 9)

    In chapter 22 we read that,

    … when Aristobulus had put on the holy vestments, and had approached to the altar at a festival, the multitude, in great crowds, fell into tears; whereupon the child was sent by night to Jericho, and was there dipped … at Herod’s command, in a pool till he was drowned.

    This is the Herod of mass infanticide fame who seems to have been quite fascinated by crucifixion as well.

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  64. @Brabantian
    Regarding the yet-again-almost-magically 'found ID / passport' at the 19 Dec Berlin events - at which also present by 'coincidence' - "Only ten minutes before the truck drove into the booths, Professor Shlomo Shpiro, a terrorist expert at the University of Bar-Ilan in Tel Aviv, strolled in the same Christmas market."

    This was actually at least the 5th 'found ID - passport' amidst 'terrorism'
    (1) - 11 Sep 2001 passport in 'NYC towers rubble' tho aeroplanes otherwise vapourised
    (2) - 7 Jan 2015 Charlie Hebdo shootings, 'passport left in car' in front of Paris Jewish deli used for Mossad meetings
    (3) - 13 Nov 2015 Bataclan nightclub massacre Paris 'passport flew out of his clothes as killer exploded his suicide vest'
    (4) - 14 Jul 2016 Nice France lorry killings 'passport found'
    (5) - 19 Dec 2016 Berlin Christmas market lorry killings 'ID found', after 24 hours of searching truck cab

    Survey of the spooky Berlin lorry killing anomalies on the site of UK researcher Aangirfan ... also recalling the 1986 Berlin disco bombing falsely blamed on Libya but apparently also Gladio - CIA - Mossad:
    http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/berlin-market-attack-false-flag-inside.html

    Here's French comedian Jean-Marie Bigard, awake to the truth, theatrically pouncing upon the 'magic passport of 9/11' along with some other absurdities of the official story ... English subtitles, 9 minutes:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzAzYR-6NiI

    Individuals who have gone haywire and are committing horrible acts of murder etc, often hope for someone to stop them as they are unable to stop themselves.

    They will then deliberately deposit/lose clues such as ID at a crime scene, in hopes that they will then be apprehended and deterred from any further evil doings.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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  65. JackOH says:
    @Auntie Analogue
    My dear Brabantian, it is far from uncommon to find documents amid or around what had been explosions or flaming wreckage.

    During WWII, U.S. Navy sailors fairly often found the ID's of the Japanese kamikaze pilots who'd crashed their bomb-laden planes into the sailors' ships.

    As for fires, I've known scores of professional firemen who never ceased to be amazed at the variety of items they found inside and around buildings that had burned with what appeared to be all-consuming intensity - the movement of air around fires often has odd effects on various sorts of matter. In WWII bombing campaigns, the survivors and rescuers of the bombed people and buildings often found the oddest items - including documents and other kinds of lightweight matter - miles from blast and fire.

    Blast also does strange things to matter of all sorts. It even kills people without leaving so much as a scratch on their bodies, and often without changing the deceased's final living posture, although blast more often shifts all sorts of matter to places within, near to, and far from an explosion.

    Even powerful non-explosive, non-inflamed impacts have curious effects on all sorts of matter. A vehicular impact can move items from one location inside it into the most obscure environs of a vehicle's interior, or can move items from within a vehicle to what are seemingly incongruous places outside a vehicle.

    ” . . . [F]ar from uncommon to find documents amid or around what had been explosions or flaming wreckage.”

    True. I was a high school student custodial worker. We disposed of trash by burning in a large gas-fired incinerator. Bound publications, such as college catalogs, would remain intact with only burnt edges and spines. My memory’s dim, but I’m confident individual, unbound papers also occasionally survived depending on their location within the flames. We used over-sized pokers to stir the unburnt paper, which mostly did burn eventually.

    I’ve been through houses that have been used for firefighters’ training fires. The houses were empty of belongings. Although the houses gave the impression of being completely engulfed, there were areas in the rubble and ash that clearly had not been burned.

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  66. Mario64 says:

    Worshipping Authority

    The real issue at stake is the attitude of the governed toward the rulers. We are used to think that the rulers need the consent of the ruled in order to staying in power and to achieve this goal the most effective tool used by the rulers is “manufacturing consent”. But manufacturing consent in order to be effective needs what Étienne de La Boétie in his “Discours de la servitude volontaire” (Discourse on Voluntary Servitude) defines as the “… secret de toute domination: faire participer les dominés à leur domination” (…the secret of all domination: to make the dominated participate to their domination). The maximum degree of achievement of this goal by the rulers is attained when the relation approval-of-the-rulers-by-the-ruled is inverted which happens when the ruled go as far as to long for the approval by the rulers, just like it happens in a primary school where the pupils long for the approval of their teacher, a situation that is masterfully described by Kafka in “Das Schloss”.

    Just have a look at the style of the articles of Der Spiegel Online International, it looks like a primary school teacher explaining matters to 5th graders, and its manufacturing consent exceeds even the BBC’, which is quite notorious as top champion in the field of news cooking and manipulation.

    Moreover it tells a lot that Merkel is called “Mutti” (mother) which means that Germans love having a ruler that is like a mother that takes care of her children.

    The fact is that their attitude in front of authority didn’t change, their worship of authority is the same they had for Generalfeldmarschall Paul von Hindenburg, for The Führer Hitler and now for Angela Merkel, regardless of the fact that such rulers led their devotees to utter ruin like the “Rattenfänger von Hameln” (Pied Piper of Hamelin) did.

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    Great post.
    Regarding "authority worship", I can vividely recall a bizarre incident back in the sixties as I was in the waiting room of a doctors office in Düsseldorf, and the doc entered resulting in all of the waiting patients to actually stand up, such as if the pope arrived or a General entered a command center.
    In Italy the expressions " professore" or "dottore" are often used as a sarcastic or humorous greeting, : "Bon Journo Professore" etc, however in Germany no one would dare to "Misuse" these sacred titles in such a frivolous manner.
    Germans worship doctors, professors, politicians, lawyers, DAs, clergy, "Beamten", ( State officials), judges, journalists, etc, and this neurotic, totally unjustified veneration, being again evidence of the troubled nature of these strange people.
    One of the main beefs they have with DT is that he is not a "genuine" politician ( Echter Politiker), inspite of the fact that " Genuine" politicians have have brought nothing but mayhem and bloodshed to mankind, which they simply cannot comprehend.
    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.
    , @jacques sheete

    ...regardless of the fact that such rulers led their devotees to utter ruin
     
    Is that really a fact or would it be more accurate to say that those rulers tried to lead while the Germans were being ruined?

    I can imagine how tough it is to lead folks while they're being incessantly undermined by powerful outside forces. It seems to be one of the curses of being a particularly brilliant and constructive people who generally just want to be left alone but are surrounded by those of ill intent.
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    "The fact is that their attitude in front of authority didn’t change, their worship of authority is the same they had for Generalfeldmarschall Paul von Hindenburg, for The Führer Hitler and now for Angela Merkel"

    I wonder how much of this can be traced to the decision of the WW1 victors to drop the Kaiser and go straight to what Churchill called "democratic forms and liberty in an extreme degree" ? Maybe it's better for some peoples when the Head Of State (and therefore symbol of the nation/totem of the tribe) isn't an elected (or unelected) politician.

    "Emperors having been driven out, nonentities were elected. Beneath this flimsy fabric raged the passions of the mighty, defeated, but substantially uninjured German nation. The prejudice of the Americans against monarchy, which Mr. Lloyd George made no attempt to counteract, had made it clear to the beaten Empire that it would have better treatment from the Allies as a republic than as a monarchy. Wise policy would have crowned and fortified the Weimar Republic with a constitutional sovereign in the person of an infant grandson of the Kaiser, under a Council of Regency. Instead, a gaping void was opened in the national life of the German people."
     
    , @Quern
    Ha ha ha.

    Been watching too many Hollyweird movies on the subject? Or reading the glorious works on my Fatherland written by supremely competent historians in the notorious Anglo-Saxon "scholarly tradition"?
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  67. @neutral

    Why should Kafka’s Jewishness or non-Jewishness (he self-identified as non-observant Jew, stopped participating after Bar Mitzvah) be pertinent?
     
    It generally should be considered to be the most pertinent thing of them all. Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.

    It [Jewishness] generally should be considered to be the most pertinent thing of them all.

    Agreed; Jewishness is at the heart of Kafka’s writing.
    Anonymous got it wrong.

    Being an outsider and not really belonging to the society you live in tends to make one come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.

    BUT Kafka’s conflicts and complaints were not directed at the “society he lived in” but at his father.

    One commentator of the “Jewish conflict in Kafka’s writing” used this passage, from a letter Franz wrote to his pal Max Brod, in 1921, a few years before he died:

    “Most young Jews who wanted to write German wanted to leave Jewishness behind them, and their fathers approved of this, but vaguely (this vagueness was what was outrageous to them). But with their posterior legs they were still glued to their father’s Jewishness and with their waving anterior legs they found no new ground. The ensuing despair became their inspiration.”

    Jews were accepted in the “society they lived in” in Prague; Jews controlled much of the wealth of Prague; Jews were in the military in Praque, where their kosher diet was respected.

    Jewish children were encouraged by their fathers to participate in the surrounding secular society but the same fathers — or at least, Franz’s father — also enjoined upon sonny the necessity to remain “glued to their father’s Jewishness.” A father-son conflict, one of Hebrew scripture’s oft-treated themes, and, more recently, the context of Ivan Turgenev’s “Fathers and Sons.”

    The problem resided not with the surrounding “society” but with the individual or his collective/community.

    It’s possible to view the Jew-vs-assimilated German conflict in terms of the most significant events in Jewish mytho-religion — the events at Mt. Sinai, when Moses received the Commandments from Yahweh.

    The familiar narrative: Moses went up the mountain, got the tablets, came back down, saw the children of the Hebrews had made a golden calf, many were clamoring to return to Egypt where life was easier; Moses, pissed, smashed the tablets.

    A closer reading reveals that, yes, Moses smashed the tablets but also that he called for volunteers to kill the apostate calf-builders and would-be returnees to Egypt. The Levites stepped forward and slew their fellow Hebrews.

    The conflict that beset Franz, and his father, was between going for the gold or obeying the commands of Yahweh. Disobeying Yahweh came at a steep price: the Levites, your fellow Jews, will kill you.

    At one brief point in his life Kafka flirted with zionism: it seemed to resolve the conflict between the demands of Yahweh and the lure of gold, but Kafka was unable to make the commitment and eventually rejected zionism.

    The boasts that Israelis, and Jews, both in Israel and in the diaspora, make of zionist Israel; that is, that it is “start-up nation,” and smarter and wealthier than everybody else, witness that zionism has unambiguously embraced the golden calf. Zionism is secular, not religious, but zionism, and Israel, remain a society in conflict with its own identity, a conflict it blames on the surrounding societies, just as Neutral did, and just as Jews in Germany in the Weimar years did, and just as those Jews who seek the destruction of Iran do.

    Neutral misinterpreted the nature of the identity crisis Kafka exhibited and wrote about, but Neutral did identify one of the unique ways that Jews react to such an internal conflict and identity crisis:

    [they] come up with twisted viewpoints and often causes one to want to totally demolish that said society.

    In Turgenev, the nihilist Bazarov kills only himself, not his father nor “the whole society.”
    Dostoevsky’s Pavel Smerdyakov kills his father, which act causes acute suffering for the rest of the Karamazov sons, but he does not “totally demolish the whole society.”

    In the Jewish mythological set, however, the “whole society” is made to suffer, and is “demolished,” when Jews suffer an identity crisis.

    In “The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit” E. Michael Jones introduces his thesis by noting that Jews “rejected logos.” In my view Jones is too harsh, and entangles himself in supercessionism. But Kafka’s central conflict and thesis are quite similar and within the specifically Jewish scriptural context — i.e. at Mt. Sinai, the worshipers of the golden calf rejected the commandments of Yahweh and were slain by their fellow Jews.

    At Mt. Sinai, the Levites did not “demolish the whole society,” however. Zionism, on the other hand, having rejected logos, or Yahweh’s commandments, zionism has burst all restraints. Coupled with the universal tendency to identify a scapegoat for one’s own internal distress, the rest of the world is imperiled by zionism gone wild, a nuclear-armed, heavily militarized, golden calf-worshiping, identity-conflicted ideology of “twisted viewpoints” intent on “demolishing society.”

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  68. Miro23 says:
    @Skeptikal
    " not really belonging to the society you live in "

    You sound ignorant.
    Do you know anything about Prague, the German community in Prague, etc.?
    The Germans and German culture were dominant in Prague. That included a large Jewish community. German secular Jews in Prague were in a similar position to secular Jews in Berlin. Prague was the location of the first "German" university (Bohemia at the time of foundation, later part of the Austro-Hungarian empire). Etc.

    Do you know anything about Prague, the German community in Prague, etc.? The Germans and German culture were dominant in Prague.

    And the reason was racial patronage:

    “In the old Austria, nothing could be done without patronage. That’s partly explained by the fact that nine million Germans were in fact rulers, in virtue of an unwritten law, of fifty million non-Germans. This German ruling class took strict care that places should always be found for Germans. For them this was the only method of maintaining themselves in this privileged situation. The Balts of German origin behaved in the same way towards the Slav population.”
    Hitler’s Table Talk, Conversation Nº109 15th-16th January 1942

    The Germans “belonged to society” as an ethnically self serving minority ruling class.

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    Jews in Prague identified with German; self-identified as "Germano-tropic," spoke German.
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  69. Durruti says:
    @Brabantian
    Regarding the yet-again-almost-magically 'found ID / passport' at the 19 Dec Berlin events - at which also present by 'coincidence' - "Only ten minutes before the truck drove into the booths, Professor Shlomo Shpiro, a terrorist expert at the University of Bar-Ilan in Tel Aviv, strolled in the same Christmas market."

    This was actually at least the 5th 'found ID - passport' amidst 'terrorism'
    (1) - 11 Sep 2001 passport in 'NYC towers rubble' tho aeroplanes otherwise vapourised
    (2) - 7 Jan 2015 Charlie Hebdo shootings, 'passport left in car' in front of Paris Jewish deli used for Mossad meetings
    (3) - 13 Nov 2015 Bataclan nightclub massacre Paris 'passport flew out of his clothes as killer exploded his suicide vest'
    (4) - 14 Jul 2016 Nice France lorry killings 'passport found'
    (5) - 19 Dec 2016 Berlin Christmas market lorry killings 'ID found', after 24 hours of searching truck cab

    Survey of the spooky Berlin lorry killing anomalies on the site of UK researcher Aangirfan ... also recalling the 1986 Berlin disco bombing falsely blamed on Libya but apparently also Gladio - CIA - Mossad:
    http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/berlin-market-attack-false-flag-inside.html

    Here's French comedian Jean-Marie Bigard, awake to the truth, theatrically pouncing upon the 'magic passport of 9/11' along with some other absurdities of the official story ... English subtitles, 9 minutes:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzAzYR-6NiI

    Many thanks for the link to French Comedian Jean-Marie Bigard. He is as humorous, as the courageous Dieudonné.

    The fight to Restore the American Republic, destroyed in the First Modern Arab Spring operation by the Zionist Oligarchs, Rothschilds, et. al., MOSSAD/CIA, on November 22, 1963, is the Only Road out of this mess.

    A sovereign – independent United States can disarm the Zionists, restore Palestine, and stabilize the World – in Peace & Justice.

    Keep the VISION in 2017.

    God Bless! and Merry Christmas! to all.

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    Speaking of French comedians, check out Confusion Amoureuse by Didier Super, a must, must see, and very pertinent to the article:

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x34ekpe

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  70. @Miro23

    Do you know anything about Prague, the German community in Prague, etc.? The Germans and German culture were dominant in Prague.
     
    And the reason was racial patronage:

    "In the old Austria, nothing could be done without patronage. That's partly explained by the fact that nine million Germans were in fact rulers, in virtue of an unwritten law, of fifty million non-Germans. This German ruling class took strict care that places should always be found for Germans. For them this was the only method of maintaining themselves in this privileged situation. The Balts of German origin behaved in the same way towards the Slav population."
    Hitler's Table Talk, Conversation Nº109 15th-16th January 1942

    The Germans "belonged to society" as an ethnically self serving minority ruling class.

    Jews in Prague identified with German; self-identified as “Germano-tropic,” spoke German.

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    Jews in Prague identified with German; self-identified as “Germano-tropic,” spoke German.
     
    But ultimately they were still jews, which you identified them as in the first word of your sentence.
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  71. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Durruti
    Many thanks for the link to French Comedian Jean-Marie Bigard. He is as humorous, as the courageous Dieudonné.

    The fight to Restore the American Republic, destroyed in the First Modern Arab Spring operation by the Zionist Oligarchs, Rothschilds, et. al., MOSSAD/CIA, on November 22, 1963, is the Only Road out of this mess.

    A sovereign - independent United States can disarm the Zionists, restore Palestine, and stabilize the World - in Peace & Justice.

    Keep the VISION in 2017.

    God Bless! and Merry Christmas! to all.

    Speaking of French comedians, check out Confusion Amoureuse by Didier Super, a must, must see, and very pertinent to the article:

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  72. KenH says:

    They’re not the ones destroying Muslim countries, insisting that even non-refugees be allowed into Europe, branding white nationalists as racists and spectacularly amplifying, with false flags, Muslim crime. Muslims have made none of the decisions behind this worsening crisis.

    Perhaps not, but Muslims should still be held to account for their hostility towards their gracious hosts and the violence they commit. Most Muslims, rather than condemn their barbaric co-religionists, offer excuse after excuse or blame the victims.

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    Perhaps not, but Muslims should still be held to account for their hostility towards their gracious hosts and the violence they commit. Most Muslims, rather than condemn their barbaric co-religionists, offer excuse after excuse or blame the victims.
     
    I think it's preferable to concentrate on ending "invade the world invite the world" first. Criticising muslims is probably a necessary means to that end, but should not become the primary objective in itself.

    Criticising muslim immigrants for attacking Israeli supporting and US sphere targets is a bit like blaming wasps for stinging people who stick their fingers into their nests. You can, of course, call that "blaming the victim" or declare that it "robs muslims of agency", but that's ignoring the simple reality that it's Europeans and their American offshoots who have during the operative years held most of the levers of power in the world and have been interfering violently and corruptly in the politics and wars of muslim countries, rather than vice versa.

    Israel was planted in the ME as (in effect) a hostile act by European colonial rulers and backed by European/US expertise, money and weapons, after all. Muslim colonists in Europe and the US on the other hand are present solely by invitation (in effect) of European and US rulers, unwelcome as that reality might be to those of us who have opposed the suicidal lunacy of mass immigration.

    It was the US and its European and UK satellite states that used subversion, corruption or outright military attack or invasion to replace inconvenient governments in places like Iran, Iraq, Libya etc, not muslims who overthrew inconvenient American or European governments whenever it suited them.
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  73. @Authenticjazzman
    Germany is now completely controlled by the "Green" party in spite of the fact that their actual numbers in congress are minimal. They set the tone for all of society with PC and open borders being the guideline for all discussion and and political action.
    AM is doing their bidding and she is amazingly enough heaped with praise from a segment of society namely the leftists ( Greens) which until now had nothing but contempt for all conservatives, of course she in not conservative and therefore the positive reaction to her politics from them, the greens.
    Add to this crazy constellation the fact that Germans, as always, worship the positions of authority, judges, doctors, journalists, lawyers, clergy, in other words all of the dubious con-artists and BSers, then you have a situation in which these scoundrels, ninty percent of them leftists, who are now hysterical with their anti-DT tirades, you now have a situation in which public sentiment is completely oppressed for fear of being labeled : Rechts, fremdenfeindlich, homophobe, frauenfeindlich etc.
    A bizarre example of the confusion and malaise in Germany being the election of a Green "Minsisterpräsident" in the state of Baden-Würtemburg the h0me of Mercedes Benz, Porsche etc and the city in which the automobile was actually invented : Mannheim, bizarre because his party, the Greens, has one particular goal regarding private auto ownership in mind : the elimination thereof, and even so-called "conservative Germans see him as a "Landesvater". Okay so try and figure that one out.
    One could on and on about the malaise of contradictions and puzzles at home in Germany, and I am guessing that this post will not be accepted for publication within the forum.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    Your soberb intelligence is philosemite/blindsemite too?? “greens” or “leftists” are euphemisms when people confuse the army of zombies with their mental owners. The leftist elite is fundamentally Jewish. Their body of idiots are predominantly goym.

    Every unwise idiot walking into the earth surface is a business to the deception.

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    That's very "antisemitic" of you. Remember the 6 billion!
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  74. @Anonymous
    Kafka would know, wouldn't he?

    He lived at home for most of his life.
    It's likely "Metamorphoses" was Kafka's reflection on his relationship with his father -- in Kafka's tortured mind, his helplessness was invisible to his authoritarian father. Kafka was an adult, not a child, when he thought himself a helpless bug.

    Kafka was sexually dysfunctional --


    Kafka was never married. According to Brod, Kafka was "tortured" by sexual desire[55] and Kafka's biographer Reiner Stach states that his life was full of "incessant womanising" and that he was filled with a fear of "sexual failure".[56] He visited brothels for most of his adult life[57][58][59] and was interested in pornography.[55] In addition, he had close relationships with several women during his life.
     
    hardly the person to "expose the German people's attitude toward authority."

    which forces one to consider that much of what we think we know about German attitudes toward authority, at least before Jews, FDR and Churchill exploited them, starved them, bombed them, murdered them and brainwashed them over the course of 125 years and counting, is mostly Jewish and Anglo propaganda.

    USAians really ought to wise up to these historic realities: the same tactics are being carried out agains the much more malleable and authority-worshipping USA sheeple.

    When a Chertoff-trained TSA apparatchik orders you to take your shoes off, what do you do?

    At least the German people summoned the balls to organize around their common national identity and wage war against their oppressors.

    What one thing have to do with other thing redpilled?

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  75. Redpilled tend to be mediocre as their enemies, bluepilled… Both need a pill to supposedly become free or emancipated… :D

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  76. Dumbo says:

    I lived in Germany for a few months.

    Germans are generally nice, good people, but not very gregarious and many also tend to be even rude. They are very distrustful of others when it comes to the individual level (it is hard to make more than superficial friends as a foreigner), but they seem to be extremely trustful (to the point of suicide) as a collective.

    They are strict about laws and obeying orders, even if sometimes they don’t make sense.

    Now they are enforcing Politically Correct and Multiculturalist thought with Nazi efficiency.

    It is hard to imagine two people less alike than Arabs and Germans (well, in many ways – they can be similar in their occasional fanaticism). I doubt they will get along well.

    Yet most Germans were in favor of the refugees and the silent genocide, or, if not, simply did not care enough about the issue to protest it forcefully. Merkel may even be reelected.

    Many young Germans dress like “wiggers” and idolize American pop culture. I did not see many interracial couples, but I saw some “jungle fever” at clubs. Young people are clueless, of course, but the adults are not much better.

    I don’t really know what to make of this. The same Germans who do not get along or look down to Czechs, Poles or Southern Europeans, now seem to be under the illusion that they will successfully turn Turks, Syrians and Afghans into successful members of German society.

    In fact, the refugees are obviously not integrating in German society, they will probably never integrate, and at most will remain a parallel society or a permanent underclass. They will bring petty crime, drugs and prostitution to all German cities. Some of them, frustrated by the lack of integration and blonde pussy (this belongs to a few alpha whites and some blacks), will explode themselves in public.

    It is sad, as I, like Lihn Dihn, love the Christmas Markets (the one in Leipzig is particularly beautiful) but they have chosen this, maybe as a way to rule through the EU. (Now Merkel wants to push some of the refugees to Eastern Europe.)

    Or maybe Northern Europeans are just bipolar/insane, changing from mania to depression and vice-versa every few decades. Who knows?

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  77. Skeptikal says:
    @Auntie Analogue
    My dear Brabantian, it is far from uncommon to find documents amid or around what had been explosions or flaming wreckage.

    During WWII, U.S. Navy sailors fairly often found the ID's of the Japanese kamikaze pilots who'd crashed their bomb-laden planes into the sailors' ships.

    As for fires, I've known scores of professional firemen who never ceased to be amazed at the variety of items they found inside and around buildings that had burned with what appeared to be all-consuming intensity - the movement of air around fires often has odd effects on various sorts of matter. In WWII bombing campaigns, the survivors and rescuers of the bombed people and buildings often found the oddest items - including documents and other kinds of lightweight matter - miles from blast and fire.

    Blast also does strange things to matter of all sorts. It even kills people without leaving so much as a scratch on their bodies, and often without changing the deceased's final living posture, although blast more often shifts all sorts of matter to places within, near to, and far from an explosion.

    Even powerful non-explosive, non-inflamed impacts have curious effects on all sorts of matter. A vehicular impact can move items from one location inside it into the most obscure environs of a vehicle's interior, or can move items from within a vehicle to what are seemingly incongruous places outside a vehicle.

    I do not find this information surprising, that a blast causes all kinds of strange effects and burns some things and leaves some others unburned, leaves some close to the scene of the blast and carries others miles away, etc.
    But I do find surprising, and I believe it is a statistical anomaly (though I am not a statistician, so . . .) that in each case of a terrorist attack, the specific item that a blast caused to behave in a putatively bizarre and unpredictable fashion in fact behaved in just the fashion that was needed to prove a particular case and landed at the feet of those who had a particular case to prove . . .

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  78. Randal says:
    @jacques sheete

    Stalin is said to have spoken against this and the practice of revealing pseudonyms stopped.
     
    I wish I had the time to investigate that because if true ( and it probably is) then it's a hoot because "Stalin" itself was one of his many pseudonyms, and the Bolslhies were pretty creative with such things as well. (As I'm sure you already know.)

    Indeed. On the one hand it is as you point out consistent with Bolshevik practice in their revolutionary days, but on the other hand I tend to expect routine hypocrisy from people who gain power and so I’d assume that Stalin in power would have a very different attitude to pseudonyms from that held by Stalin as a dissident himself. Much as I don’t doubt for a moment that almost all of the politicians and media figures currently enabling or turning a blind eye to the use of “hate speech” laws to suppress dissident opinion would in their young adult days have loudly declared their adherence to the “Voltaire” doctrine (“I hate what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it”).

    The Wikipedia piece sources it to a 2002 book about Stalin with which I’m not familiar: The Political Thought of Joseph Stalin, which probably incorporates some interesting new sources of information on the man’s thinking. I would probably have read the book if it had been published a few years earlier, but it’s probably at least that long since I last read any book on Stalin and I’m not about to take it up again now.

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    I thought this was interesting. From the Wiki link you posted.

    [In Stalin's USSR], preference was given to patriotism in everything, for example, even "French" buns were renamed to "urban." The general population was not interested in the struggles among the intelligentsia.
     
    Also, your comment regarding hypocrisy and power is to be emphasized as well.
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  79. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @jacques sheete

    Thank you for coming out at last with your longing for the coming of a new Hitler who will share your view about Jews, FDR, Churchill and Jewish and Anglo propaganda.
     
    Do you know what Churchill said about the Jews? Hey how's about FDR and Churchill's appeasement of the monster, Uncle Joey? BTW, how did Joey treat "da Jewz?" Great bunch of guys, right? Salt o' de Earth, I tell ya!

    Ref Kafka: ” In 1999 a committee of 99 authors, scholars, and literary critics ranked Der Process and Das Schloss the second and ninth most significant German-language novels of the 20th century.” (Wikipedia) (LiteraturHaus 1999)
     
    Oh, that means a lot! Who were those clowns anyway? Looks, for instance, what "wins" Nobel Peace Prizes and such. You don't really know how that trash works, do you?

    Sorry to hear all this about Germany. Great place, great people.

    No, what did Churchill say? I always thought of him as moderately philosemitic and outrageously pro-Zionist, but it’s a while since I’ve read much either by him or about him.

    De gustibus non disputandum, but I’ve always liked Kafka and regard The Trial and The Castle (titles given in English because I don’t read German) as excellent works. I’m not sure what the prize thing had to do with M64′s point anyway.

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    Churchill said a lot of things and flip-flopped a lot so it's hard to pin him down on that point, but here're some quotes from and a link to an article he had published in 1920.


    In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century

    There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.

    The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.

    -Winston Churchill, “Zionism vs. Bolshevism: The Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People,”



    http://library.flawlesslogic.com/ish.htm
     
    It appears, too, that Churchill was none too fond of German-Zionist collaboration, and took advantage of Germany's prostration to eliminate an upcoming commercial rival. For Churchill, WW2 would solve a number of problems...
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  80. Randal says:
    @KenH

    They’re not the ones destroying Muslim countries, insisting that even non-refugees be allowed into Europe, branding white nationalists as racists and spectacularly amplifying, with false flags, Muslim crime. Muslims have made none of the decisions behind this worsening crisis.
     
    Perhaps not, but Muslims should still be held to account for their hostility towards their gracious hosts and the violence they commit. Most Muslims, rather than condemn their barbaric co-religionists, offer excuse after excuse or blame the victims.

    Perhaps not, but Muslims should still be held to account for their hostility towards their gracious hosts and the violence they commit. Most Muslims, rather than condemn their barbaric co-religionists, offer excuse after excuse or blame the victims.

    I think it’s preferable to concentrate on ending “invade the world invite the world” first. Criticising muslims is probably a necessary means to that end, but should not become the primary objective in itself.

    Criticising muslim immigrants for attacking Israeli supporting and US sphere targets is a bit like blaming wasps for stinging people who stick their fingers into their nests. You can, of course, call that “blaming the victim” or declare that it “robs muslims of agency”, but that’s ignoring the simple reality that it’s Europeans and their American offshoots who have during the operative years held most of the levers of power in the world and have been interfering violently and corruptly in the politics and wars of muslim countries, rather than vice versa.

    Israel was planted in the ME as (in effect) a hostile act by European colonial rulers and backed by European/US expertise, money and weapons, after all. Muslim colonists in Europe and the US on the other hand are present solely by invitation (in effect) of European and US rulers, unwelcome as that reality might be to those of us who have opposed the suicidal lunacy of mass immigration.

    It was the US and its European and UK satellite states that used subversion, corruption or outright military attack or invasion to replace inconvenient governments in places like Iran, Iraq, Libya etc, not muslims who overthrew inconvenient American or European governments whenever it suited them.

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    "Invade the world, invite the world" must be put out to pasture for sure. IMO, you are ascribing a keen sense of historical literacy and insight about post WWII mid east history and thus, a longstanding historical grievance as a motive which these attackers simply do not possess. And in so doing you condone, enable and romanticize, perhaps unwittingly, bloodthirsty Muslim terrorists.

    From official reports and the terrorists themselves the primary reason for the attacks seem to be retaliation for bombing ISIS and/or supporting groups that oppose ISIS in their conflict with the Shia governments of Baghdad and Damascus. Seems to have little to do with previous regime change efforts as it's ISIS that is now engaged in the regime change.

    You're forgetting that the U.S. toppled Qadaffi whom the Islamists despised and also helped funnel some of his weapons stores to Jabat Al Nusra and other Islamist groups fighting Assad. The U.S. also "accidentally" bombed Syrian military targets on a couple of occasions. The U.S. has probably helped more than hindered ISIS, so where's the gratitude by the Islamists?

    And then there's the case of Muslims simply being Muslims with all the sexual assaults. None of the Muslim sex attackers have cited regime change by the U.S. and its European vassals as a reason for their animalistic behavior.

    Switzerland just suffered a small scale terrorist attack of Christians by Muslims and allegedly radical Islamists have threatened the Swiss with more. Switzerland is neutral and hasn't taken part in any regime change, yet that didn't stay the hand of the Muslim attacker.

    To me, it seems that regime change and U.S. meddling is now a shopworn excuse used primarily by Western liberals to acquit brown skinned Muslims of any wrongdoing and responsibility for their actions in the Western world.

    If and when Europeans start destroying mosques and conducting reprisal attacks against Muslims I doubt Western liberals will calmly and dispassionately try to make sense of it all and give the Europeans the benefit of the doubt. Instead we will be told it's acts of racism and naked violence by intolerant Europeans.

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  81. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Linh Dinh
    I know, but he was a German speaker, no? Similarly, Kafka is considered a German writer though a Prague resident. Bozen is still a German town, though in Italy and called Bolzano now.

    I know, but he was a German speaker, no?

    Americans & Canadians speak English – would you call them Brits ?

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  82. Art says:

    This is perfect Machiavellianism. Fool the plebs, then make ‘em pay while you stay in power and have your way! Hurrah! Do you want more surveillance? Ja! Total surveillance? Ja! Do you want to eliminate cash to fight terrorism? Ja!

    Eliminate cash and the Rothschild bankers will have absolute control over all economic transactions. They will control what you can sell and what you can buy – sad but true.

    It is coming folks!

    Peace — Art

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    Hey Art,

    They can also shut down your entire ability to feed your family with a key stroke. That is nuts!

    Peace.
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  83. Dumbo says:
    @Auntie Analogue
    My dear Brabantian, it is far from uncommon to find documents amid or around what had been explosions or flaming wreckage.

    During WWII, U.S. Navy sailors fairly often found the ID's of the Japanese kamikaze pilots who'd crashed their bomb-laden planes into the sailors' ships.

    As for fires, I've known scores of professional firemen who never ceased to be amazed at the variety of items they found inside and around buildings that had burned with what appeared to be all-consuming intensity - the movement of air around fires often has odd effects on various sorts of matter. In WWII bombing campaigns, the survivors and rescuers of the bombed people and buildings often found the oddest items - including documents and other kinds of lightweight matter - miles from blast and fire.

    Blast also does strange things to matter of all sorts. It even kills people without leaving so much as a scratch on their bodies, and often without changing the deceased's final living posture, although blast more often shifts all sorts of matter to places within, near to, and far from an explosion.

    Even powerful non-explosive, non-inflamed impacts have curious effects on all sorts of matter. A vehicular impact can move items from one location inside it into the most obscure environs of a vehicle's interior, or can move items from within a vehicle to what are seemingly incongruous places outside a vehicle.

    I don’t think the fact that the passport was not destroyed in the action is surprising.

    What I find strange is that all terrorists (or “terrorists”?) seem to carry their passport with them to the attacks. Why? Maybe they are afraid to be stopped by police asking for papers before the attack? It is a possibility, but forgetting it on the scene of the crime is a bit too much.

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  84. Talha says:
    @Art

    This is perfect Machiavellianism. Fool the plebs, then make ‘em pay while you stay in power and have your way! Hurrah! Do you want more surveillance? Ja! Total surveillance? Ja! Do you want to eliminate cash to fight terrorism? Ja!
     
    Eliminate cash and the Rothschild bankers will have absolute control over all economic transactions. They will control what you can sell and what you can buy - sad but true.

    It is coming folks!

    Peace --- Art

    Hey Art,

    They can also shut down your entire ability to feed your family with a key stroke. That is nuts!

    Peace.

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  85. neutral says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Jews in Prague identified with German; self-identified as "Germano-tropic," spoke German.

    Jews in Prague identified with German; self-identified as “Germano-tropic,” spoke German.

    But ultimately they were still jews, which you identified them as in the first word of your sentence.

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    If I understand correctly the point Miro23 was making @ #68, the minority German population in Austro-Hungarian Prague dominated the majority Slavic population.

    The Jews in Prague chose to align with the German minority, which had power, rather than with the majority Slavic demographic, which did not. The comparable situation will be if, as expected, Jews in USA will intensify their alignment with the (declining) WASP elite rather than with the rising Hispanic population.

    So if Miro's implication was that Germans illegitimately or in some other unpleasant manner achieved elite status in Prague, Jews did not oppose that unpleasant situation but rather allied with it.

    Given what Kafka wrote were the characteristics of Jews in that place and time, his father and his father's generation would have encouraged Franz and his generation to do the same: assimilate into German culture, since it was perceived to be the dominant culture in many parts of Europe at the time.

    , @Skeptikal
    Prague was historically a center of occult studies, alchemical studies, mysticism both Christian and Jewish (kabbalistic). But recall that those studies were quite "mainstream" in the middle ages, when the Charles University was founded, in 1348.

    However, that area continued to be hospitable to all kinds of "alternative" thinking and studies. Perhaps that also explains why Bohemia was a hotbed of religious dissent. Later, Czechoslovakia seems to have been particularly receptive to the teachings of Rudolf Steiner. I imagine that this history and atmosphere affected all who were native to the place, especially someone as sensitive and creative as Kafka.
    No, Kafka was not a "Brit," but he was not a Czech (that designation may not have existed, although stirrings of Czech nationalism started in the mid-19th C.) or just a Jew. He was a resident of Bohemia and a subject within the Austro-Hungarian "Vielvölkerstaat," or "multiple-peoples nation." This biographical entry indicates what it meant to be a culturally "German" (speaking German) within the AH empire (http://www.kafka.org/?biography).

    The German Ostsiedlung as it affected Bohemia started in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. The Germans were invited by rulers because the lands of Eastern Europe were underpopulated. The cycles of underpopulation and renewed invitations to settlers continued for centuries. It was a complicated process. It is probably anachronistic to equate these early waves of the Ostsiedlung with more recent forms of colonialism, even if the result might look similar in some respects. In fact, it was quite common for rulers to invite settlers who brought with them skills that a region or a city needed or were willing to bring more land into agricultural production. For example, Frederick, the Elector of Brandenburg (an "eastern" region), also invited 20,000 Huguenots to settle in Brandenburg, via the Edict of Potsdam in 1685; in Berlin I believe they were responsible for the growth of a textile industry there (http://eh.net/eha/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Hornung.pdf). The result: "the immigrants to the Electorate of Brandenburg stabilized and greatly improved the country's economy following the destructive wars that had swept through Europe in the seventeenth-century" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Potsdam)
    More can be read about the Ostsiedlung here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung
    The role of Jews within the Ostsiedlung seems to be that they often were a subset of the German-speaking communities. As Kafka's biographical narrative suggests.
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  86. @neutral

    Jews in Prague identified with German; self-identified as “Germano-tropic,” spoke German.
     
    But ultimately they were still jews, which you identified them as in the first word of your sentence.

    If I understand correctly the point Miro23 was making @ #68, the minority German population in Austro-Hungarian Prague dominated the majority Slavic population.

    The Jews in Prague chose to align with the German minority, which had power, rather than with the majority Slavic demographic, which did not. The comparable situation will be if, as expected, Jews in USA will intensify their alignment with the (declining) WASP elite rather than with the rising Hispanic population.

    So if Miro’s implication was that Germans illegitimately or in some other unpleasant manner achieved elite status in Prague, Jews did not oppose that unpleasant situation but rather allied with it.

    Given what Kafka wrote were the characteristics of Jews in that place and time, his father and his father’s generation would have encouraged Franz and his generation to do the same: assimilate into German culture, since it was perceived to be the dominant culture in many parts of Europe at the time.

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    Jews siding with the ruling class is nothing new at all.
    Algerians resented very much that during french colonialism, the Jews of algeria aligned with the French and were even given french citizenship while the Algerians were some kind of subject class.
    , @Miro23

    If I understand correctly the point Miro23 was making @ #68, the minority German population in Austro-Hungarian Prague dominated the majority Slavic population.
     
    That's right, and they did it through ethnic patronage turning Austria-Hungary into a conflictive multi-cultural mess. Brigitte Hamann wrote an excellent book about the situation that's better known in Germany: "Hitler's Vienna, A Portrait of the Tyrant as a Young Man." https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Vienna-Portrait-Tyrant-Paperbacks/dp/1848852770/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483008084&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=hamman%2C+hitler%27s+vienna

    The Jewish route to ethnic political power in Austro-Hungary could only pass through the German elite (with whom they allied temporarily, becoming "more German than the Germans") and Jewish control of the media.

    They came to control Viennese publishing, but the problem apparently started in earnest when they applied the same racial patronage system to the Germans, that the Germans were applying to the Slavs. A primary route here was through the selection boards for universities and professional colleges. Like Hamann says, "... in 1912, one out of three high school students in Vienna was a religious Jew, 40% of medical students were Jewish etc.", displacing the traditionally German middle class.

    If you take parallels with the US, ethnic Jewish activists entered the dominant Anglo power structure (Anglo names etc.) using the "level playing field", "equality of opportunity" etc. to gain key positions from which to run Jewish patronage and get a permanent Jewish hold on key sectors (e.g. FED, Treasury, MSM, banking etc.). The evidence is that the US now has many highly placed Jewish patronage players such as Lawrence Summers and Elena Kagan.
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  87. @Anon
    No, what did Churchill say? I always thought of him as moderately philosemitic and outrageously pro-Zionist, but it's a while since I've read much either by him or about him.

    De gustibus non disputandum, but I've always liked Kafka and regard The Trial and The Castle (titles given in English because I don't read German) as excellent works. I'm not sure what the prize thing had to do with M64's point anyway.

    Churchill said a lot of things and flip-flopped a lot so it’s hard to pin him down on that point, but here’re some quotes from and a link to an article he had published in 1920.

    In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century

    There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.

    The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.

    -Winston Churchill, “Zionism vs. Bolshevism: The Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People,”

    http://library.flawlesslogic.com/ish.htm

    It appears, too, that Churchill was none too fond of German-Zionist collaboration, and took advantage of Germany’s prostration to eliminate an upcoming commercial rival. For Churchill, WW2 would solve a number of problems…

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  88. Skeptikal says:
    @neutral

    Jews in Prague identified with German; self-identified as “Germano-tropic,” spoke German.
     
    But ultimately they were still jews, which you identified them as in the first word of your sentence.

    Prague was historically a center of occult studies, alchemical studies, mysticism both Christian and Jewish (kabbalistic). But recall that those studies were quite “mainstream” in the middle ages, when the Charles University was founded, in 1348.

    However, that area continued to be hospitable to all kinds of “alternative” thinking and studies. Perhaps that also explains why Bohemia was a hotbed of religious dissent. Later, Czechoslovakia seems to have been particularly receptive to the teachings of Rudolf Steiner. I imagine that this history and atmosphere affected all who were native to the place, especially someone as sensitive and creative as Kafka.
    No, Kafka was not a “Brit,” but he was not a Czech (that designation may not have existed, although stirrings of Czech nationalism started in the mid-19th C.) or just a Jew. He was a resident of Bohemia and a subject within the Austro-Hungarian “Vielvölkerstaat,” or “multiple-peoples nation.” This biographical entry indicates what it meant to be a culturally “German” (speaking German) within the AH empire (http://www.kafka.org/?biography).

    The German Ostsiedlung as it affected Bohemia started in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. The Germans were invited by rulers because the lands of Eastern Europe were underpopulated. The cycles of underpopulation and renewed invitations to settlers continued for centuries. It was a complicated process. It is probably anachronistic to equate these early waves of the Ostsiedlung with more recent forms of colonialism, even if the result might look similar in some respects. In fact, it was quite common for rulers to invite settlers who brought with them skills that a region or a city needed or were willing to bring more land into agricultural production. For example, Frederick, the Elector of Brandenburg (an “eastern” region), also invited 20,000 Huguenots to settle in Brandenburg, via the Edict of Potsdam in 1685; in Berlin I believe they were responsible for the growth of a textile industry there (http://eh.net/eha/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Hornung.pdf). The result: “the immigrants to the Electorate of Brandenburg stabilized and greatly improved the country’s economy following the destructive wars that had swept through Europe in the seventeenth-century” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Potsdam)
    More can be read about the Ostsiedlung here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung

    The role of Jews within the Ostsiedlung seems to be that they often were a subset of the German-speaking communities. As Kafka’s biographical narrative suggests.

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    In Middle Ages Prague had the largest slave market in Central Europe. Jews were the slave traders. St. Adalbert fought against the slavers:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gniezno_Doors

    7) He has a vision of Christ telling him to save Christians from slavery by the Jewish traders
    8) He pleads with the Duke of Bohemia for the release of Christians slaves by their Jewish masters
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  89. Isak Borg says:

    In December 1989, the Romanians decided they had enough of their commie managers, and overturned the Ceausescu regime by force. Just saying…

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    "Romanians decided " - Don't be naive. A part of security apparatus decided and conducted controlled revolution and positioned its own people as the leaders.
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  90. utu says:
    @Isak Borg
    In December 1989, the Romanians decided they had enough of their commie managers, and overturned the Ceausescu regime by force. Just saying...

    “Romanians decided ” – Don’t be naive. A part of security apparatus decided and conducted controlled revolution and positioned its own people as the leaders.

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    Correct -- mostly. The point I was trying to make, however, is that change from inside is possible if it's wanted badly enough.
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  91. utu says:
    @Skeptikal
    Prague was historically a center of occult studies, alchemical studies, mysticism both Christian and Jewish (kabbalistic). But recall that those studies were quite "mainstream" in the middle ages, when the Charles University was founded, in 1348.

    However, that area continued to be hospitable to all kinds of "alternative" thinking and studies. Perhaps that also explains why Bohemia was a hotbed of religious dissent. Later, Czechoslovakia seems to have been particularly receptive to the teachings of Rudolf Steiner. I imagine that this history and atmosphere affected all who were native to the place, especially someone as sensitive and creative as Kafka.
    No, Kafka was not a "Brit," but he was not a Czech (that designation may not have existed, although stirrings of Czech nationalism started in the mid-19th C.) or just a Jew. He was a resident of Bohemia and a subject within the Austro-Hungarian "Vielvölkerstaat," or "multiple-peoples nation." This biographical entry indicates what it meant to be a culturally "German" (speaking German) within the AH empire (http://www.kafka.org/?biography).

    The German Ostsiedlung as it affected Bohemia started in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. The Germans were invited by rulers because the lands of Eastern Europe were underpopulated. The cycles of underpopulation and renewed invitations to settlers continued for centuries. It was a complicated process. It is probably anachronistic to equate these early waves of the Ostsiedlung with more recent forms of colonialism, even if the result might look similar in some respects. In fact, it was quite common for rulers to invite settlers who brought with them skills that a region or a city needed or were willing to bring more land into agricultural production. For example, Frederick, the Elector of Brandenburg (an "eastern" region), also invited 20,000 Huguenots to settle in Brandenburg, via the Edict of Potsdam in 1685; in Berlin I believe they were responsible for the growth of a textile industry there (http://eh.net/eha/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Hornung.pdf). The result: "the immigrants to the Electorate of Brandenburg stabilized and greatly improved the country's economy following the destructive wars that had swept through Europe in the seventeenth-century" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Potsdam)
    More can be read about the Ostsiedlung here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung
    The role of Jews within the Ostsiedlung seems to be that they often were a subset of the German-speaking communities. As Kafka's biographical narrative suggests.

    In Middle Ages Prague had the largest slave market in Central Europe. Jews were the slave traders. St. Adalbert fought against the slavers:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gniezno_Doors

    7) He has a vision of Christ telling him to save Christians from slavery by the Jewish traders
    8) He pleads with the Duke of Bohemia for the release of Christians slaves by their Jewish masters

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  92. @Randal
    Indeed. On the one hand it is as you point out consistent with Bolshevik practice in their revolutionary days, but on the other hand I tend to expect routine hypocrisy from people who gain power and so I'd assume that Stalin in power would have a very different attitude to pseudonyms from that held by Stalin as a dissident himself. Much as I don't doubt for a moment that almost all of the politicians and media figures currently enabling or turning a blind eye to the use of "hate speech" laws to suppress dissident opinion would in their young adult days have loudly declared their adherence to the "Voltaire" doctrine ("I hate what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it").

    The Wikipedia piece sources it to a 2002 book about Stalin with which I'm not familiar: The Political Thought of Joseph Stalin, which probably incorporates some interesting new sources of information on the man's thinking. I would probably have read the book if it had been published a few years earlier, but it's probably at least that long since I last read any book on Stalin and I'm not about to take it up again now.

    I thought this was interesting. From the Wiki link you posted.

    [In Stalin's USSR], preference was given to patriotism in everything, for example, even “French” buns were renamed to “urban.” The general population was not interested in the struggles among the intelligentsia.

    Also, your comment regarding hypocrisy and power is to be emphasized as well.

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  93. KenH says:
    @Randal

    Perhaps not, but Muslims should still be held to account for their hostility towards their gracious hosts and the violence they commit. Most Muslims, rather than condemn their barbaric co-religionists, offer excuse after excuse or blame the victims.
     
    I think it's preferable to concentrate on ending "invade the world invite the world" first. Criticising muslims is probably a necessary means to that end, but should not become the primary objective in itself.

    Criticising muslim immigrants for attacking Israeli supporting and US sphere targets is a bit like blaming wasps for stinging people who stick their fingers into their nests. You can, of course, call that "blaming the victim" or declare that it "robs muslims of agency", but that's ignoring the simple reality that it's Europeans and their American offshoots who have during the operative years held most of the levers of power in the world and have been interfering violently and corruptly in the politics and wars of muslim countries, rather than vice versa.

    Israel was planted in the ME as (in effect) a hostile act by European colonial rulers and backed by European/US expertise, money and weapons, after all. Muslim colonists in Europe and the US on the other hand are present solely by invitation (in effect) of European and US rulers, unwelcome as that reality might be to those of us who have opposed the suicidal lunacy of mass immigration.

    It was the US and its European and UK satellite states that used subversion, corruption or outright military attack or invasion to replace inconvenient governments in places like Iran, Iraq, Libya etc, not muslims who overthrew inconvenient American or European governments whenever it suited them.

    “Invade the world, invite the world” must be put out to pasture for sure. IMO, you are ascribing a keen sense of historical literacy and insight about post WWII mid east history and thus, a longstanding historical grievance as a motive which these attackers simply do not possess. And in so doing you condone, enable and romanticize, perhaps unwittingly, bloodthirsty Muslim terrorists.

    From official reports and the terrorists themselves the primary reason for the attacks seem to be retaliation for bombing ISIS and/or supporting groups that oppose ISIS in their conflict with the Shia governments of Baghdad and Damascus. Seems to have little to do with previous regime change efforts as it’s ISIS that is now engaged in the regime change.

    You’re forgetting that the U.S. toppled Qadaffi whom the Islamists despised and also helped funnel some of his weapons stores to Jabat Al Nusra and other Islamist groups fighting Assad. The U.S. also “accidentally” bombed Syrian military targets on a couple of occasions. The U.S. has probably helped more than hindered ISIS, so where’s the gratitude by the Islamists?

    And then there’s the case of Muslims simply being Muslims with all the sexual assaults. None of the Muslim sex attackers have cited regime change by the U.S. and its European vassals as a reason for their animalistic behavior.

    Switzerland just suffered a small scale terrorist attack of Christians by Muslims and allegedly radical Islamists have threatened the Swiss with more. Switzerland is neutral and hasn’t taken part in any regime change, yet that didn’t stay the hand of the Muslim attacker.

    To me, it seems that regime change and U.S. meddling is now a shopworn excuse used primarily by Western liberals to acquit brown skinned Muslims of any wrongdoing and responsibility for their actions in the Western world.

    If and when Europeans start destroying mosques and conducting reprisal attacks against Muslims I doubt Western liberals will calmly and dispassionately try to make sense of it all and give the Europeans the benefit of the doubt. Instead we will be told it’s acts of racism and naked violence by intolerant Europeans.

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  94. To me, it seems that regime change and U.S. meddling is now a shopworn excuse used primarily by Western liberals to acquit brown skinned Muslims of any wrongdoing and responsibility for their actions in the Western world.

    Apologizing for long term US meddling by dismissing it as a “shopworn excuse” is as laughable as it is damnable. It’s a pretty weak attempt to acquit perverse Brit, Zionist and ‘Merkin leadership of any wrongdoing and responsibility for their actions in the Middle Eastern world.

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    Try sticking to the facts.

    The only place the West was engaged in regime change since 2011 was Syria against the Shia (Alawite) government of Bashar Assad and Qadaffi's Libya. Islamists despised both regimes. Yet it's these very Islamists and their sympathizers attacking American and European civilian targets, not Assad or Qadaffi loyalists. The temporary, weak and half hearted anti-ISIS measures by Obama and Hollande in 2016 were cynical attempts to shore up political support and fall far short of regime change and slaughter of Muslims warranting blowback.

    If your loved ones get killed in a Muslim terrorist attack in Europe or the U.S. are you just going to shrug your shoulders and chalk it up to previous regime change efforts by the West?

    What's your excuse for the recent Islamist attack in Switzerland? Are the Swiss guilty because they live so close to Germany?

    Terror begets terror so when Europeans spill Muslim blood on the streets of Europe you will cop out for them just like you do for Muslim terrorists, right?

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  95. Max Payne says:

    Germany needs to convert to Islam. Muslims don’t need to be political correct! Then finally they can tackle things like the Third Reich, the Holocaust, and so on without feeling uncomfortable or guilty.

    Heck you can make two distinct classes of Muslim. White (German) Muslims, who will take care of industry, banking, infrastructure, science…. and the cohorts of shock troops that arrived from the greater Middle East for the future invasions of France, Britain and Russia. Sounds like fun times really.

    Imams and Muftis will keep the horde in check with religious guilt and collective tribe punishment.

    Even racist, evil, Aryan-superiority Hitler made an SS division out of Muslims:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)

    I’m surprised there isn’t a media campaign in Germany stating “Hitler liked Muslims, Hitler was an anti-Semite, are you an anti-Semite? Stop immigration to Germany now!”

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  96. ogunsiron says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    If I understand correctly the point Miro23 was making @ #68, the minority German population in Austro-Hungarian Prague dominated the majority Slavic population.

    The Jews in Prague chose to align with the German minority, which had power, rather than with the majority Slavic demographic, which did not. The comparable situation will be if, as expected, Jews in USA will intensify their alignment with the (declining) WASP elite rather than with the rising Hispanic population.

    So if Miro's implication was that Germans illegitimately or in some other unpleasant manner achieved elite status in Prague, Jews did not oppose that unpleasant situation but rather allied with it.

    Given what Kafka wrote were the characteristics of Jews in that place and time, his father and his father's generation would have encouraged Franz and his generation to do the same: assimilate into German culture, since it was perceived to be the dominant culture in many parts of Europe at the time.

    Jews siding with the ruling class is nothing new at all.
    Algerians resented very much that during french colonialism, the Jews of algeria aligned with the French and were even given french citizenship while the Algerians were some kind of subject class.

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    That's true enough. Paul Henissart wrote his memorable book "Wolves in the City" https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671205137/ref=nosim/librarythin08-20 only 10 years after the events and it's based on first hand interviews with the main actors.

    There's no doubt that Algeria's Jews allied with the French OAS terrorists against the Algerian Arab majority in their fight for independence.

    Like he said, "The Jewish quarter behind the Hôtel de Ville lived on a virtual war footing, its young organized into self-defence groups who received summary training in the use of small arms and fought alongside the OAS commandos; Jouhaud praised their aggressive spirit."

    And, "The overriding concern of the Jews was to retain French citizenship (Algeria was officially French territory)." - "As it turned out, upon independence more than 90% (out of 135.000) emigrated - most to France, and about 13.000 to Israel."
    , @jacques sheete

    Jews siding with the ruling class is nothing new at all.
     
    Josephus' Wars of the Jews is full of examples confirming that view, at least during Roman times. I believe the Macedonian, Alexander the Great, also gave them special privileges because many of them sided with him in his conquest of Egypt. I also believe that the Jews of Alexandria were loathed for it as well.

    Another thing is that he describes a lot of inter-class tension amongst them. The ruling classes of the Jews almost always had their hands full trying to keep the rebellious ones in check as well. There seems to have typically been a significant amount of tension between Phariseees, Saducees, Essenes and between the various sub-orders of the various sects.

    Note: Don't quote me on the specifics just yet. And another thing.: Anyone who thinks Jews are monolithic in any way are severely misguided. They are neither of one consistent religion, nor are they a purebred ethnic group. Anyone who claims anything to the contrary only exposes wishful thinking and/or gross ignorance. Many of them today are not even "Semitic."

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  97. @pyrrhus
    Thank you for a very sober and thorough summary of the unfolding disaster in Germany, Linh Dinh.....Germans have obediently followed their leaders into three epic catastrophes in the last hundred years, with scarcely a dissent. This will be the fourth....Ben Franklin observed about 250 years ago that the German immigrants to the Colonies simply could not assimilate with the rebellious, independent English and Scottish settlers who founded the country. He was a prophet.

    Actually Germans assimilated so well almost any white person in America will tell you their English/German. Or Irish/German. But the Anglo Norman power structure was never challenged in any way. Which only underscores the broader point.

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    "Actually Germans assimilated so well "

    Germans caved in under the pressure of anti-German campaign during WWI and after it. Look at pre WWI and post WWI pictures of Cincinnati or St. Paul and it will look as an ethnic cleansing has happened w/o the actual ethnic cleansing. Germans as if on command ceased to be Germans and became Americans. Changed spelling of their names, changed names of stores to English, streets, dropped Gothic alphabet... It was done under the immense pressure of propaganda: Belgian babies bayoneted by Huns... liberty cabbage.... Then came prohibition that was directed against Germans and especially Catholics. And finally the WWII was the coup de grace. There are no more German-Americans while still there are some other hyphenated ethnic minorities.
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  98. Miro23 says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    If I understand correctly the point Miro23 was making @ #68, the minority German population in Austro-Hungarian Prague dominated the majority Slavic population.

    The Jews in Prague chose to align with the German minority, which had power, rather than with the majority Slavic demographic, which did not. The comparable situation will be if, as expected, Jews in USA will intensify their alignment with the (declining) WASP elite rather than with the rising Hispanic population.

    So if Miro's implication was that Germans illegitimately or in some other unpleasant manner achieved elite status in Prague, Jews did not oppose that unpleasant situation but rather allied with it.

    Given what Kafka wrote were the characteristics of Jews in that place and time, his father and his father's generation would have encouraged Franz and his generation to do the same: assimilate into German culture, since it was perceived to be the dominant culture in many parts of Europe at the time.

    If I understand correctly the point Miro23 was making @ #68, the minority German population in Austro-Hungarian Prague dominated the majority Slavic population.

    That’s right, and they did it through ethnic patronage turning Austria-Hungary into a conflictive multi-cultural mess. Brigitte Hamann wrote an excellent book about the situation that’s better known in Germany: “Hitler’s Vienna, A Portrait of the Tyrant as a Young Man.” https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Vienna-Portrait-Tyrant-Paperbacks/dp/1848852770/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483008084&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=hamman%2C+hitler%27s+vienna

    The Jewish route to ethnic political power in Austro-Hungary could only pass through the German elite (with whom they allied temporarily, becoming “more German than the Germans”) and Jewish control of the media.

    They came to control Viennese publishing, but the problem apparently started in earnest when they applied the same racial patronage system to the Germans, that the Germans were applying to the Slavs. A primary route here was through the selection boards for universities and professional colleges. Like Hamann says, “… in 1912, one out of three high school students in Vienna was a religious Jew, 40% of medical students were Jewish etc.”, displacing the traditionally German middle class.

    If you take parallels with the US, ethnic Jewish activists entered the dominant Anglo power structure (Anglo names etc.) using the “level playing field”, “equality of opportunity” etc. to gain key positions from which to run Jewish patronage and get a permanent Jewish hold on key sectors (e.g. FED, Treasury, MSM, banking etc.). The evidence is that the US now has many highly placed Jewish patronage players such as Lawrence Summers and Elena Kagan.

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  99. @Mario64
    Worshipping Authority

    The real issue at stake is the attitude of the governed toward the rulers. We are used to think that the rulers need the consent of the ruled in order to staying in power and to achieve this goal the most effective tool used by the rulers is “manufacturing consent”. But manufacturing consent in order to be effective needs what Étienne de La Boétie in his “Discours de la servitude volontaire” (Discourse on Voluntary Servitude) defines as the “… secret de toute domination: faire participer les dominés à leur domination” (…the secret of all domination: to make the dominated participate to their domination). The maximum degree of achievement of this goal by the rulers is attained when the relation approval-of-the-rulers-by-the-ruled is inverted which happens when the ruled go as far as to long for the approval by the rulers, just like it happens in a primary school where the pupils long for the approval of their teacher, a situation that is masterfully described by Kafka in “Das Schloss”.

    Just have a look at the style of the articles of Der Spiegel Online International, it looks like a primary school teacher explaining matters to 5th graders, and its manufacturing consent exceeds even the BBC’, which is quite notorious as top champion in the field of news cooking and manipulation.

    Moreover it tells a lot that Merkel is called “Mutti” (mother) which means that Germans love having a ruler that is like a mother that takes care of her children.

    The fact is that their attitude in front of authority didn’t change, their worship of authority is the same they had for Generalfeldmarschall Paul von Hindenburg, for The Führer Hitler and now for Angela Merkel, regardless of the fact that such rulers led their devotees to utter ruin like the “Rattenfänger von Hameln” (Pied Piper of Hamelin) did.

    Great post.
    Regarding “authority worship”, I can vividely recall a bizarre incident back in the sixties as I was in the waiting room of a doctors office in Düsseldorf, and the doc entered resulting in all of the waiting patients to actually stand up, such as if the pope arrived or a General entered a command center.
    In Italy the expressions ” professore” or “dottore” are often used as a sarcastic or humorous greeting, : “Bon Journo Professore” etc, however in Germany no one would dare to “Misuse” these sacred titles in such a frivolous manner.
    Germans worship doctors, professors, politicians, lawyers, DAs, clergy, “Beamten”, ( State officials), judges, journalists, etc, and this neurotic, totally unjustified veneration, being again evidence of the troubled nature of these strange people.
    One of the main beefs they have with DT is that he is not a “genuine” politician ( Echter Politiker), inspite of the fact that ” Genuine” politicians have have brought nothing but mayhem and bloodshed to mankind, which they simply cannot comprehend.
    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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    …and this neurotic, totally unjustified veneration [of authority and superiority], being again evidence of the troubled nature of these strange people.

     

    Could this

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

     

    be an example of that sort of thing?
    , @SolontoCroesus
    rotflmao

    someone who posts his/her membership in a (pseudo) hi-iq group criticizes those who honor professional achievement.

    ---

    BUT -- how much of that exaggerated worship of authority figures is the result of the psychological warfare Germans endured at the hands of, predominantly Jews, at a low lever during Weimar but intensified in the post-war period?

    ---
    I also disagree on principle with characterizations of Hitler and NSDAP as supremacists, or of Germans in the era of the Third Reich as authority-worshiping dupes.

    The German people rallied to the NSDAP message because
    1. Adolf Hitler was an astonishingly effective orator and producer of spectacle -- the Jews who started US film industry in Hollywood learned their craft in and from Germans (to the extent they did not steal from Edison etc). Furthermore, Hitler was a serious student of opera, including, of course, Wagner, and was conversant with German mythology as expressed in Wagner's opera. That sense of spectacle and touched a chord in the German soul and provided the unifying glue that is what well-structured mythology does best. R H S Stolfi's "Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny" discusses this aspect of the Third Reich.
    By extension -- The glue of the strength and unity of the Iranian people is their shared mythos, rendered in the Iranian national epic, the Shahnameh, as well as Iran's many poets and literary superheroes. The USA is not unified because it is too young and too diverse; USA does not have a national epic.

    2. National Socialism in Germany understood the plight of the German people, promised to solve their problems, spelled out a plan to do so, and delivered. Let's see if Trump can deliver as well on his promises to the American people as Hitler and NS delivered for the German people.

    3. But don't take my word for it: listen to Hans Schmidt, who grew up in "Hitler's Germany"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eyt4ZZKJ1M

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  100. Isak Borg says:
    @utu
    "Romanians decided " - Don't be naive. A part of security apparatus decided and conducted controlled revolution and positioned its own people as the leaders.

    Correct — mostly. The point I was trying to make, however, is that change from inside is possible if it’s wanted badly enough.

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  101. Miro23 says:
    @ogunsiron
    Jews siding with the ruling class is nothing new at all.
    Algerians resented very much that during french colonialism, the Jews of algeria aligned with the French and were even given french citizenship while the Algerians were some kind of subject class.

    That’s true enough. Paul Henissart wrote his memorable book “Wolves in the City” https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671205137/ref=nosim/librarythin08-20 only 10 years after the events and it’s based on first hand interviews with the main actors.

    There’s no doubt that Algeria’s Jews allied with the French OAS terrorists against the Algerian Arab majority in their fight for independence.

    Like he said, “The Jewish quarter behind the Hôtel de Ville lived on a virtual war footing, its young organized into self-defence groups who received summary training in the use of small arms and fought alongside the OAS commandos; Jouhaud praised their aggressive spirit.”

    And, “The overriding concern of the Jews was to retain French citizenship (Algeria was officially French territory).” – “As it turned out, upon independence more than 90% (out of 135.000) emigrated – most to France, and about 13.000 to Israel.”

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  102. @ogunsiron
    Jews siding with the ruling class is nothing new at all.
    Algerians resented very much that during french colonialism, the Jews of algeria aligned with the French and were even given french citizenship while the Algerians were some kind of subject class.

    Jews siding with the ruling class is nothing new at all.

    Josephus’ Wars of the Jews is full of examples confirming that view, at least during Roman times. I believe the Macedonian, Alexander the Great, also gave them special privileges because many of them sided with him in his conquest of Egypt. I also believe that the Jews of Alexandria were loathed for it as well.

    Another thing is that he describes a lot of inter-class tension amongst them. The ruling classes of the Jews almost always had their hands full trying to keep the rebellious ones in check as well. There seems to have typically been a significant amount of tension between Phariseees, Saducees, Essenes and between the various sub-orders of the various sects.

    Note: Don’t quote me on the specifics just yet. And another thing.: Anyone who thinks Jews are monolithic in any way are severely misguided. They are neither of one consistent religion, nor are they a purebred ethnic group. Anyone who claims anything to the contrary only exposes wishful thinking and/or gross ignorance. Many of them today are not even “Semitic.”

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    Hey JS,

    Anyone who thinks Jews are monolithic in any way are severely misguided....Many of them today are not even “Semitic.”
     
    Excellent insight. We have been sold a bill of goods that there are a Jewish people - this is necessary for the Zionist narrative which is mostly a European narrative. It should be more that there are Jewish peoples.

    Scattered throughout the Muslim world there were Jews (often completely isolated from each other) living in Yemen, Morocco, etc. even as far as Bukhara (who reflect their Central Asian influence in their phenotype).

    They're still trying to figure this all out:
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/conference-asks-iraqi-israeli-arab-jew-or-mizrahi-jew-1.246035

    Peace.
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  103. @Mario64
    Worshipping Authority

    The real issue at stake is the attitude of the governed toward the rulers. We are used to think that the rulers need the consent of the ruled in order to staying in power and to achieve this goal the most effective tool used by the rulers is “manufacturing consent”. But manufacturing consent in order to be effective needs what Étienne de La Boétie in his “Discours de la servitude volontaire” (Discourse on Voluntary Servitude) defines as the “… secret de toute domination: faire participer les dominés à leur domination” (…the secret of all domination: to make the dominated participate to their domination). The maximum degree of achievement of this goal by the rulers is attained when the relation approval-of-the-rulers-by-the-ruled is inverted which happens when the ruled go as far as to long for the approval by the rulers, just like it happens in a primary school where the pupils long for the approval of their teacher, a situation that is masterfully described by Kafka in “Das Schloss”.

    Just have a look at the style of the articles of Der Spiegel Online International, it looks like a primary school teacher explaining matters to 5th graders, and its manufacturing consent exceeds even the BBC’, which is quite notorious as top champion in the field of news cooking and manipulation.

    Moreover it tells a lot that Merkel is called “Mutti” (mother) which means that Germans love having a ruler that is like a mother that takes care of her children.

    The fact is that their attitude in front of authority didn’t change, their worship of authority is the same they had for Generalfeldmarschall Paul von Hindenburg, for The Führer Hitler and now for Angela Merkel, regardless of the fact that such rulers led their devotees to utter ruin like the “Rattenfänger von Hameln” (Pied Piper of Hamelin) did.

    …regardless of the fact that such rulers led their devotees to utter ruin

    Is that really a fact or would it be more accurate to say that those rulers tried to lead while the Germans were being ruined?

    I can imagine how tough it is to lead folks while they’re being incessantly undermined by powerful outside forces. It seems to be one of the curses of being a particularly brilliant and constructive people who generally just want to be left alone but are surrounded by those of ill intent.

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    Hello, now there I am under a new Name (formerly "a German).

    Thank you, Sir, You nailed it. :-)

    To many of us, the Americans are the one people most submissive to their powers that be. That theory has something going for it, if you listen to the nonsense spouted by the likes of Mario64 and the Authentic Jazzman. It is downright frightening.

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  104. @Authenticjazzman
    Great post.
    Regarding "authority worship", I can vividely recall a bizarre incident back in the sixties as I was in the waiting room of a doctors office in Düsseldorf, and the doc entered resulting in all of the waiting patients to actually stand up, such as if the pope arrived or a General entered a command center.
    In Italy the expressions " professore" or "dottore" are often used as a sarcastic or humorous greeting, : "Bon Journo Professore" etc, however in Germany no one would dare to "Misuse" these sacred titles in such a frivolous manner.
    Germans worship doctors, professors, politicians, lawyers, DAs, clergy, "Beamten", ( State officials), judges, journalists, etc, and this neurotic, totally unjustified veneration, being again evidence of the troubled nature of these strange people.
    One of the main beefs they have with DT is that he is not a "genuine" politician ( Echter Politiker), inspite of the fact that " Genuine" politicians have have brought nothing but mayhem and bloodshed to mankind, which they simply cannot comprehend.
    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    …and this neurotic, totally unjustified veneration [of authority and superiority], being again evidence of the troubled nature of these strange people.

    Could this

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    be an example of that sort of thing?

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    I lived in Germany for 5 years. Relatives lived in Germany for many years. We worked in German firms with Germans. We lived in German apartment houses with. German neighbors.

    They are very conformist and submissive. They live rules procedures and authority. They live to tell you how to do your laundry, use the subway, pay a cashier etc. it makes them uncomfortable if you do ordinary things differently.

    I understand Scandinavians are worse.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    " Could this be an example of that sort of thing".

    Yes it could, but perhaps it could not, touche'.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.
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  105. @Authenticjazzman
    Great post.
    Regarding "authority worship", I can vividely recall a bizarre incident back in the sixties as I was in the waiting room of a doctors office in Düsseldorf, and the doc entered resulting in all of the waiting patients to actually stand up, such as if the pope arrived or a General entered a command center.
    In Italy the expressions " professore" or "dottore" are often used as a sarcastic or humorous greeting, : "Bon Journo Professore" etc, however in Germany no one would dare to "Misuse" these sacred titles in such a frivolous manner.
    Germans worship doctors, professors, politicians, lawyers, DAs, clergy, "Beamten", ( State officials), judges, journalists, etc, and this neurotic, totally unjustified veneration, being again evidence of the troubled nature of these strange people.
    One of the main beefs they have with DT is that he is not a "genuine" politician ( Echter Politiker), inspite of the fact that " Genuine" politicians have have brought nothing but mayhem and bloodshed to mankind, which they simply cannot comprehend.
    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    rotflmao

    someone who posts his/her membership in a (pseudo) hi-iq group criticizes those who honor professional achievement.

    BUT — how much of that exaggerated worship of authority figures is the result of the psychological warfare Germans endured at the hands of, predominantly Jews, at a low lever during Weimar but intensified in the post-war period?


    I also disagree on principle with characterizations of Hitler and NSDAP as supremacists, or of Germans in the era of the Third Reich as authority-worshiping dupes.

    The German people rallied to the NSDAP message because
    1. Adolf Hitler was an astonishingly effective orator and producer of spectacle — the Jews who started US film industry in Hollywood learned their craft in and from Germans (to the extent they did not steal from Edison etc). Furthermore, Hitler was a serious student of opera, including, of course, Wagner, and was conversant with German mythology as expressed in Wagner’s opera. That sense of spectacle and touched a chord in the German soul and provided the unifying glue that is what well-structured mythology does best. R H S Stolfi’s “Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny” discusses this aspect of the Third Reich.
    By extension — The glue of the strength and unity of the Iranian people is their shared mythos, rendered in the Iranian national epic, the Shahnameh, as well as Iran’s many poets and literary superheroes. The USA is not unified because it is too young and too diverse; USA does not have a national epic.

    2. National Socialism in Germany understood the plight of the German people, promised to solve their problems, spelled out a plan to do so, and delivered. Let’s see if Trump can deliver as well on his promises to the American people as Hitler and NS delivered for the German people.

    3. But don’t take my word for it: listen to Hans Schmidt, who grew up in “Hitler’s Germany”

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    " Listen to Hans Schmidt, who grew up in AH>'s Germany".

    No problem as myself I resided in Germany for decades, married three German Women, one of whom was a "Von" and also an MD.

    I speak, read and write German fluently.

    My first wife's mother had a photo of her uncle, a high ranking officer, standing next to AH.
    I know Germany, and the German mentality, probably better than any American who has ever spent an extended period of time there, so I really do not need your tutoring, have a nice day.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.
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  106. Talha says:
    @jacques sheete

    Jews siding with the ruling class is nothing new at all.
     
    Josephus' Wars of the Jews is full of examples confirming that view, at least during Roman times. I believe the Macedonian, Alexander the Great, also gave them special privileges because many of them sided with him in his conquest of Egypt. I also believe that the Jews of Alexandria were loathed for it as well.

    Another thing is that he describes a lot of inter-class tension amongst them. The ruling classes of the Jews almost always had their hands full trying to keep the rebellious ones in check as well. There seems to have typically been a significant amount of tension between Phariseees, Saducees, Essenes and between the various sub-orders of the various sects.

    Note: Don't quote me on the specifics just yet. And another thing.: Anyone who thinks Jews are monolithic in any way are severely misguided. They are neither of one consistent religion, nor are they a purebred ethnic group. Anyone who claims anything to the contrary only exposes wishful thinking and/or gross ignorance. Many of them today are not even "Semitic."

    Hey JS,

    Anyone who thinks Jews are monolithic in any way are severely misguided….Many of them today are not even “Semitic.”

    Excellent insight. We have been sold a bill of goods that there are a Jewish people – this is necessary for the Zionist narrative which is mostly a European narrative. It should be more that there are Jewish peoples.

    Scattered throughout the Muslim world there were Jews (often completely isolated from each other) living in Yemen, Morocco, etc. even as far as Bukhara (who reflect their Central Asian influence in their phenotype).

    They’re still trying to figure this all out:

    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/conference-asks-iraqi-israeli-arab-jew-or-mizrahi-jew-1.246035

    Peace.

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  107. Alden says:
    @jacques sheete

    …and this neurotic, totally unjustified veneration [of authority and superiority], being again evidence of the troubled nature of these strange people.

     

    Could this

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

     

    be an example of that sort of thing?

    I lived in Germany for 5 years. Relatives lived in Germany for many years. We worked in German firms with Germans. We lived in German apartment houses with. German neighbors.

    They are very conformist and submissive. They live rules procedures and authority. They live to tell you how to do your laundry, use the subway, pay a cashier etc. it makes them uncomfortable if you do ordinary things differently.

    I understand Scandinavians are worse.

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    By executing the mundane everyday tasks in accordance with accepted rules leaves much more time for the creative tasks.

    I submit that the great majority of western people appreciate it if in their daily interactions things go smoothly and quickly.

    To criticize a people for doing their damnedest to make everyday interactions go as smoothly and as quickly as possible is the markings of an intellectual midget. It is for these reasons that businesses have procedure manuals: To make the day-to-day tasks go smoothly and efficiently.

    HdC
    , @Authenticjazzman
    To put it mildly they are the most petulant know-it-alls ( Besserwisser) on planet mirth.

    They love to give orders and admonishment to total strangers to the point that elsewhere they would be on the receiving end of many a knuckle sandwich

    Reading their political publications and the commentary on the US election and their ghastly, hateful diatribe pertaining to DT, pisses me off beyond words.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    , @Santoculto
    Some obscure hbd blogguer already said ''scandinavians are the east asians of Europe'' because their too much conformity.

    Well conformity is camuflage, it's adaptation, every adaptation is basically the camuflage of the environment and how well similar to the environment, reflecting/mirroring their ''needs'', better adapted and protected against predators you will be. Conformity is a sign of primitive mental health. Every animal or organism who become too much evident become a easy prey.
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  108. HdC says:
    @Alden
    I lived in Germany for 5 years. Relatives lived in Germany for many years. We worked in German firms with Germans. We lived in German apartment houses with. German neighbors.

    They are very conformist and submissive. They live rules procedures and authority. They live to tell you how to do your laundry, use the subway, pay a cashier etc. it makes them uncomfortable if you do ordinary things differently.

    I understand Scandinavians are worse.

    By executing the mundane everyday tasks in accordance with accepted rules leaves much more time for the creative tasks.

    I submit that the great majority of western people appreciate it if in their daily interactions things go smoothly and quickly.

    To criticize a people for doing their damnedest to make everyday interactions go as smoothly and as quickly as possible is the markings of an intellectual midget. It is for these reasons that businesses have procedure manuals: To make the day-to-day tasks go smoothly and efficiently.

    HdC

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    HdC, I think you may have beat me to the punch here. I can't disagree with Alden that Germans can present in their social and work relations with a placidity one wouldn't find in, say, the "adversarial energy" (my made-up term) of Americans of Scots-Irish ancestry. Still, I'm not sure what that means, and I wouldn't lightly use "conformist" or "submissive" to describe the Germans. As individuals or in a polity, Germans have done a whole lot of non-submitting and non-conforming.
    , @Seamus Padraig
    Good point. Conformity's not inherently bad--it's simply a question of what you're conforming to. The exact same traits among the Germans that made the rise of Hitler or multiculturalism possible could also, under more benevolent rulers, make for a very well-ordered society with a high degree of civic pride and social cohesion. It's just a shame that they keep getting stuck with bad governments.
    , @Skeptikal
    "By executing the mundane everyday tasks in accordance with accepted rules leaves much more time for the creative tasks."

    "To criticize a people for doing their damnedest to make everyday interactions go as smoothly and as quickly as possible is the markings of an intellectual midget. It is for these reasons that businesses have procedure manuals: To make the day-to-day tasks go smoothly and efficiently."
    +++++++

    I am half German (1/4 Prussian and 1/4 German Jew) and I am quite proud of my background, although I know that Germans are often derided for authoritarianism, blah blah.

    For whatever reasons, so many reasons, the Germans were put through the ringer in the 20th C. Any characteristics that seem to by typical of Germans is viewed in its most negative light by many, in what I consider an extremely childish fashion. It's open season on the "German" psyche.
    If the Germans prize efficiency, then they are small-minded and narrow.
    If they prize "eternal" values then they are childish, gullible dreamers. If they prize educaiotn, then they are authoritarian. If they value a functioning bureaucracy, then they are happy to be cogs in a machine, etc. etc.

    Every trait has a positive and a negative aspect. When I lived in Germany we used to joke about the DIN (deutsche Industrienummer) numbers: Like, one guy's girl friends were all the DIN number.
    Which DIN nuts should we use in a recipe? Are these the right DIN eggs?
    But when it comes to making a machine that works, that is properly coordinated with other machines, if you have to order a spare part, or a replacement coil for a kiln, or an engine part, or a screw for a lamp fixture, or need paper and envelopes that fit, etc. those DIN numbers are damned useful.
    Yes, the German education system advances the best to the top spots, and then those people get respect. Also, those who receive vocational training go through a far more rigorous training than here. So they also get respect. And explains the concept "deutsche Qualitaetsware."

    Once a German accepts you as a friend, (typically) you will be that person's friend forever.
    Yes, Germans do take life seriously.
    So, fine, sit on your stool laughing at and deriding everything German!!
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  109. @SolontoCroesus
    rotflmao

    someone who posts his/her membership in a (pseudo) hi-iq group criticizes those who honor professional achievement.

    ---

    BUT -- how much of that exaggerated worship of authority figures is the result of the psychological warfare Germans endured at the hands of, predominantly Jews, at a low lever during Weimar but intensified in the post-war period?

    ---
    I also disagree on principle with characterizations of Hitler and NSDAP as supremacists, or of Germans in the era of the Third Reich as authority-worshiping dupes.

    The German people rallied to the NSDAP message because
    1. Adolf Hitler was an astonishingly effective orator and producer of spectacle -- the Jews who started US film industry in Hollywood learned their craft in and from Germans (to the extent they did not steal from Edison etc). Furthermore, Hitler was a serious student of opera, including, of course, Wagner, and was conversant with German mythology as expressed in Wagner's opera. That sense of spectacle and touched a chord in the German soul and provided the unifying glue that is what well-structured mythology does best. R H S Stolfi's "Hitler: Beyond Evil and Tyranny" discusses this aspect of the Third Reich.
    By extension -- The glue of the strength and unity of the Iranian people is their shared mythos, rendered in the Iranian national epic, the Shahnameh, as well as Iran's many poets and literary superheroes. The USA is not unified because it is too young and too diverse; USA does not have a national epic.

    2. National Socialism in Germany understood the plight of the German people, promised to solve their problems, spelled out a plan to do so, and delivered. Let's see if Trump can deliver as well on his promises to the American people as Hitler and NS delivered for the German people.

    3. But don't take my word for it: listen to Hans Schmidt, who grew up in "Hitler's Germany"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eyt4ZZKJ1M

    ” Listen to Hans Schmidt, who grew up in AH>’s Germany”.

    No problem as myself I resided in Germany for decades, married three German Women, one of whom was a “Von” and also an MD.

    I speak, read and write German fluently.

    My first wife’s mother had a photo of her uncle, a high ranking officer, standing next to AH.
    I know Germany, and the German mentality, probably better than any American who has ever spent an extended period of time there, so I really do not need your tutoring, have a nice day.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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    Hey AJ,

    married three German Women
     
    I think that's why many Muslim men are flocking there...

    Oh! You meant one after the other - oops, my mistake! :)

    Peace.
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  110. @jacques sheete

    …and this neurotic, totally unjustified veneration [of authority and superiority], being again evidence of the troubled nature of these strange people.

     

    Could this

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

     

    be an example of that sort of thing?

    ” Could this be an example of that sort of thing”.

    Yes it could, but perhaps it could not, touche’.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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    Yes it could, but perhaps it could not, touche’.
     
    Why so touchy? ;)

    PS: You could use a proof reader.
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  111. @Alden
    I lived in Germany for 5 years. Relatives lived in Germany for many years. We worked in German firms with Germans. We lived in German apartment houses with. German neighbors.

    They are very conformist and submissive. They live rules procedures and authority. They live to tell you how to do your laundry, use the subway, pay a cashier etc. it makes them uncomfortable if you do ordinary things differently.

    I understand Scandinavians are worse.

    To put it mildly they are the most petulant know-it-alls ( Besserwisser) on planet mirth.

    They love to give orders and admonishment to total strangers to the point that elsewhere they would be on the receiving end of many a knuckle sandwich

    Reading their political publications and the commentary on the US election and their ghastly, hateful diatribe pertaining to DT, pisses me off beyond words.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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  112. JackOH says:
    @HdC
    By executing the mundane everyday tasks in accordance with accepted rules leaves much more time for the creative tasks.

    I submit that the great majority of western people appreciate it if in their daily interactions things go smoothly and quickly.

    To criticize a people for doing their damnedest to make everyday interactions go as smoothly and as quickly as possible is the markings of an intellectual midget. It is for these reasons that businesses have procedure manuals: To make the day-to-day tasks go smoothly and efficiently.

    HdC

    HdC, I think you may have beat me to the punch here. I can’t disagree with Alden that Germans can present in their social and work relations with a placidity one wouldn’t find in, say, the “adversarial energy” (my made-up term) of Americans of Scots-Irish ancestry. Still, I’m not sure what that means, and I wouldn’t lightly use “conformist” or “submissive” to describe the Germans. As individuals or in a polity, Germans have done a whole lot of non-submitting and non-conforming.

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  113. I also lived in Germany for 2 years and speak enough of the language (with a Bavarian accent and dialect) to fool many people that I’m fluent, which I’m not.

    Anyway, I think Germany and the Germans are, and probably have always been, fine people. It really pains me to see what their inferiors have been putting them through for the past couple of centuries at least.

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  114. KenH says:
    @jacques sheete

    To me, it seems that regime change and U.S. meddling is now a shopworn excuse used primarily by Western liberals to acquit brown skinned Muslims of any wrongdoing and responsibility for their actions in the Western world.
     
    Apologizing for long term US meddling by dismissing it as a "shopworn excuse" is as laughable as it is damnable. It's a pretty weak attempt to acquit perverse Brit, Zionist and 'Merkin leadership of any wrongdoing and responsibility for their actions in the Middle Eastern world.

    Nice try, but I doubt it'll fly.

    Try sticking to the facts.

    The only place the West was engaged in regime change since 2011 was Syria against the Shia (Alawite) government of Bashar Assad and Qadaffi’s Libya. Islamists despised both regimes. Yet it’s these very Islamists and their sympathizers attacking American and European civilian targets, not Assad or Qadaffi loyalists. The temporary, weak and half hearted anti-ISIS measures by Obama and Hollande in 2016 were cynical attempts to shore up political support and fall far short of regime change and slaughter of Muslims warranting blowback.

    If your loved ones get killed in a Muslim terrorist attack in Europe or the U.S. are you just going to shrug your shoulders and chalk it up to previous regime change efforts by the West?

    What’s your excuse for the recent Islamist attack in Switzerland? Are the Swiss guilty because they live so close to Germany?

    Terror begets terror so when Europeans spill Muslim blood on the streets of Europe you will cop out for them just like you do for Muslim terrorists, right?

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    1. We brought chaos to various Arab and Muslim countries, which chaos enabled the rise of certain terrorist groups.

    2. We've actually supported quite a few of these groups, directly and indirectly.

    3. Nobody here excuses, per se, the murderous acts of these groups on Western soil. If you say so you'll have to provide a quote. A point which has been made is that Western ruling classes have done everything they could to encourage such acts. Do you disagree?

    4. If Euros kill innocent Muslims the act should be deplored. No? But it would be foolish to say either that there was no provocation or that the putative Euro-murderers demonstrate that all Euros are bloodthirsty fanatics.
    , @jacques sheete

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    December 29, 2016 at 5:39 pm GMT • 100 Words

    Try sticking to the facts.
     

    Why bother sticking to facts when hardly anyone else does? Plus, it's much more fun to make up Sh!t as ya go along, no?

    Anyway, be careful about what you ask for. What'll ya do if I stick with a few facts that you may not like? Or how about I twist the ones you approve of in ways you may not approve of?

    Hey, what's a "terrorist" anyway?


    Terror begets terror so when Europeans spill Muslim blood on the streets of Europe you will cop out for them just like you do for Muslim terrorists, right?
     
    Naw, I'll probably condemn "terror" in a consistent manner.


    PS: "Anon's" answer is full of facts. Thanks, "anon!"

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  115. EugeneGur says:

    If you criticize Jews, Israel, foreigners, immigration or if you say that German policy should focus on Germans, etc., you will get clubbed with the Nazi bludgeon.

    I don’t buy it. If the fear of slipping back to Fascism were the true cause of such timidity towards immigrants, Germany should’ve behaved very gently towards Russia. For there is no other country in the world that suffered more from the German fascism than Russia, or, more precisely, the Soviet Union.

    However, the Germany’s behavior of late towards Russia has been brazen and aggressive showing no evidence of any kind of guilt so amply displayed towards Middle Eastern refugees. Germany was at the forefront of the coup in Kiev offering its unconditional support to the Ukrainian Nazis, the descendants, spiritual if not physical, of the Ukrainian Nazis it supported 70 years ago. Germany decided it is a good idea to deploy German troops at the Russia border for the first time since 1941. Seems like Drang nach Osten v.2 to me as well as pretty much to everybody in Russia. And that bothers the Germans not at all.

    So I cannot imaging what kind of warped mind could come up with an idea that it is perfectly fine to let the Afghanis rape German women as a remedy against Fascism, at the same time making aggressive moves towards Russia.

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  116. @HdC
    By executing the mundane everyday tasks in accordance with accepted rules leaves much more time for the creative tasks.

    I submit that the great majority of western people appreciate it if in their daily interactions things go smoothly and quickly.

    To criticize a people for doing their damnedest to make everyday interactions go as smoothly and as quickly as possible is the markings of an intellectual midget. It is for these reasons that businesses have procedure manuals: To make the day-to-day tasks go smoothly and efficiently.

    HdC

    Good point. Conformity’s not inherently bad–it’s simply a question of what you’re conforming to. The exact same traits among the Germans that made the rise of Hitler or multiculturalism possible could also, under more benevolent rulers, make for a very well-ordered society with a high degree of civic pride and social cohesion. It’s just a shame that they keep getting stuck with bad governments.

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  117. KenH says:
    @Linh Dinh
    Russia Today, 12/27/16:

    Refugee suspects surrender to police after homeless man set on fire in Berlin

    The suspects accused of setting a homeless person on fire in the Berlin underground have been identified as refugees from Syria and Libya, police confirmed. Six of them surrendered to police, while the seventh was arrested in a police operation.

    “Six suspects turned themselves in at various police stations [Monday] evening, [and] another suspect was arrested last night by undercover investigators,” an official police release said.

    The seven young men allegedly set a homeless person on fire as he slept at the Berlin Schonleinstrasse station overnight into Christmas Day on Sunday, police say.

    The attackers fled the scene, but the victim survived without any injuries after passersby helped to extinguish the flames.

    Following the incident, police released images of the perpetrators, asking locals to help identify them. Law enforcement officials qualified the incident as an “attempted murder,” and announced that an investigation was underway.

    Police have now been able to establish the identities of all of the suspects, and have stated the men are all refugees aged between 15 and 21.

    "The seven suspects are all young men between 15 and 21 years of age,” Thomas Neuendorf, deputy head of the Berlin police press office, told Ruptly video agency.

    “Six of the suspects were born in Syria and one of the suspects was born in Libya. All of the suspects have refugee status here [Germany]," the official said.

    [...]
     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a33V74tuBqY

    Looks like more innocent Muslim “pawns” are violently acting out over regime change in the Middle East.

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  118. Skeptikal says:
    @HdC
    By executing the mundane everyday tasks in accordance with accepted rules leaves much more time for the creative tasks.

    I submit that the great majority of western people appreciate it if in their daily interactions things go smoothly and quickly.

    To criticize a people for doing their damnedest to make everyday interactions go as smoothly and as quickly as possible is the markings of an intellectual midget. It is for these reasons that businesses have procedure manuals: To make the day-to-day tasks go smoothly and efficiently.

    HdC

    “By executing the mundane everyday tasks in accordance with accepted rules leaves much more time for the creative tasks.”

    “To criticize a people for doing their damnedest to make everyday interactions go as smoothly and as quickly as possible is the markings of an intellectual midget. It is for these reasons that businesses have procedure manuals: To make the day-to-day tasks go smoothly and efficiently.”
    +++++++

    I am half German (1/4 Prussian and 1/4 German Jew) and I am quite proud of my background, although I know that Germans are often derided for authoritarianism, blah blah.

    For whatever reasons, so many reasons, the Germans were put through the ringer in the 20th C. Any characteristics that seem to by typical of Germans is viewed in its most negative light by many, in what I consider an extremely childish fashion. It’s open season on the “German” psyche.
    If the Germans prize efficiency, then they are small-minded and narrow.
    If they prize “eternal” values then they are childish, gullible dreamers. If they prize educaiotn, then they are authoritarian. If they value a functioning bureaucracy, then they are happy to be cogs in a machine, etc. etc.

    Every trait has a positive and a negative aspect. When I lived in Germany we used to joke about the DIN (deutsche Industrienummer) numbers: Like, one guy’s girl friends were all the DIN number.
    Which DIN nuts should we use in a recipe? Are these the right DIN eggs?
    But when it comes to making a machine that works, that is properly coordinated with other machines, if you have to order a spare part, or a replacement coil for a kiln, or an engine part, or a screw for a lamp fixture, or need paper and envelopes that fit, etc. those DIN numbers are damned useful.
    Yes, the German education system advances the best to the top spots, and then those people get respect. Also, those who receive vocational training go through a far more rigorous training than here. So they also get respect. And explains the concept “deutsche Qualitaetsware.”

    Once a German accepts you as a friend, (typically) you will be that person’s friend forever.
    Yes, Germans do take life seriously.
    So, fine, sit on your stool laughing at and deriding everything German!!

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  119. annamaria says:
    @Sherman
    What was that part about your parents teaching you to respect Jews?

    “Rudolf was denied his PhD, lost his job … was imprisoned for almost 5 years, had his home searched several times, books and manuscripts removed, books burned…”
    Sounds painfully familiar, does’n it?
    There is a problem of fervent pretense on exceptional morality in the context of the openly authoritarian methods of suppressing any questioning of historical events; plus, of course, the ongoing colonization and wars in the Middle East.
    A documented history of Bolshevism in Russia, which has been sequestered by ALL major publishing houses in the US/UK, is another case in point.

    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/

    Not that I am trying to accuse you personally in the obscenity of the Lobby’s behavior. But one cannot deny the fact that there used to be a tremendous sympathy of people of the western civilization towards Jewish people, and that this sympathy has been wasted. The 20-th century and the beginning of the 21-st century have been disastrous for the tribe in many respects. Two menacing phenomena, Bolshevism and Zionism, could explain the growing animosity towards Jewish censorship.

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    Thank you so much for that link, annamaria! Saker has mentioned this book several times, and I keep wanting to read it, but I don't know Russian. At some point, a Russian publisher ought to consider doing an English translation and selling it to western retailers, or by mail-order.
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  120. Talha says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    " Listen to Hans Schmidt, who grew up in AH>'s Germany".

    No problem as myself I resided in Germany for decades, married three German Women, one of whom was a "Von" and also an MD.

    I speak, read and write German fluently.

    My first wife's mother had a photo of her uncle, a high ranking officer, standing next to AH.
    I know Germany, and the German mentality, probably better than any American who has ever spent an extended period of time there, so I really do not need your tutoring, have a nice day.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    Hey AJ,

    married three German Women

    I think that’s why many Muslim men are flocking there…

    Oh! You meant one after the other – oops, my mistake! :)

    Peace.

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  121. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @KenH
    Try sticking to the facts.

    The only place the West was engaged in regime change since 2011 was Syria against the Shia (Alawite) government of Bashar Assad and Qadaffi's Libya. Islamists despised both regimes. Yet it's these very Islamists and their sympathizers attacking American and European civilian targets, not Assad or Qadaffi loyalists. The temporary, weak and half hearted anti-ISIS measures by Obama and Hollande in 2016 were cynical attempts to shore up political support and fall far short of regime change and slaughter of Muslims warranting blowback.

    If your loved ones get killed in a Muslim terrorist attack in Europe or the U.S. are you just going to shrug your shoulders and chalk it up to previous regime change efforts by the West?

    What's your excuse for the recent Islamist attack in Switzerland? Are the Swiss guilty because they live so close to Germany?

    Terror begets terror so when Europeans spill Muslim blood on the streets of Europe you will cop out for them just like you do for Muslim terrorists, right?

    1. We brought chaos to various Arab and Muslim countries, which chaos enabled the rise of certain terrorist groups.

    2. We’ve actually supported quite a few of these groups, directly and indirectly.

    3. Nobody here excuses, per se, the murderous acts of these groups on Western soil. If you say so you’ll have to provide a quote. A point which has been made is that Western ruling classes have done everything they could to encourage such acts. Do you disagree?

    4. If Euros kill innocent Muslims the act should be deplored. No? But it would be foolish to say either that there was no provocation or that the putative Euro-murderers demonstrate that all Euros are bloodthirsty fanatics.

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    1. We brought chaos to various Arab and Muslim countries, which chaos enabled the rise of certain terrorist groups.
     
    The chaos has indeed enabled the rise of certain terrorist groups, but you're oversimplifying a bit. The "West is responsible for everything" American left overlooks the fact that Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and possibly other Muslim states are chief enablers of the Wahhabi fanatics running wild in Iraq and Syria. And let's not forget Israel said they "prefer the bad guys not backed by Iran" which would be the Wahabbi cutthroats and brigands.

    The U.S. has withdrawn considerably since the troop pullout from Iraq in December 2011 and are killing very few Muslims these days and even then trying to focus on Wahabbi whack jobs who themselves are murdering their fellow Muslims, Christians and Yazidis, not innocent women and children.

    There's a lot of blame to go around these days, but Western liberals are laser focused only on the U.S. and "sphere" nations in Europe. They discount or grossly understate the role of the Islamic religion and religious motivation of the attackers. And the role Israel plays in shaping the foreign policies of the U.S. and Britain and to a lesser extent other Western nations.

    Recall that France, the victim of some horrific terror attacks the last few years, was steadfastly opposed to the Iraq invasion in 2003 and they were on the "Assad must go" train until about the last year. France's previous attempts at averting war and opposing Assad obviously didn't score them points with the Islamists who continue to attack anyway (and threaten more attacks).

    Final points:
    1) The left is trying to shoehorn the terrorist attacks of the last couple of years into an outdated 'The West is responsible no matter what" ideological framework . This may have had currency in the 1990's through the early first decade of the 21st century, but time has now passed them by and they need new material.
    2) Elements of the left (the interventionist left) supported the Iraq war and believed the deposition of Saddam Hussein would unleash the social justice warrior within of the Iraqi people and instill a yearning for liberal democracy. They badly miscalculated and are trying to make people forget their former position.
    3) Egyptian Coptic Christians haven't regime changed anyone yet they've suffered destruction of a few of their churches, murder and the kidnapping and forcible conversion of some of their women by the Islamists.

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  122. utu says:
    @Indrid Cold
    Actually Germans assimilated so well almost any white person in America will tell you their English/German. Or Irish/German. But the Anglo Norman power structure was never challenged in any way. Which only underscores the broader point.

    “Actually Germans assimilated so well ”

    Germans caved in under the pressure of anti-German campaign during WWI and after it. Look at pre WWI and post WWI pictures of Cincinnati or St. Paul and it will look as an ethnic cleansing has happened w/o the actual ethnic cleansing. Germans as if on command ceased to be Germans and became Americans. Changed spelling of their names, changed names of stores to English, streets, dropped Gothic alphabet… It was done under the immense pressure of propaganda: Belgian babies bayoneted by Huns… liberty cabbage…. Then came prohibition that was directed against Germans and especially Catholics. And finally the WWII was the coup de grace. There are no more German-Americans while still there are some other hyphenated ethnic minorities.

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    The English royal family also changed its name.
    "The name was changed from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the English Windsor in 1917 because of anti-German sentiment in the British Empire during World War I."

    So if the royals caved in it is perhaps expecting too much for German Americans in Pennsylvania and the Midwest to stand up and be counted as Germans. So they sat down. But not before taking over the American cookout with Frankfurters, Wieners, and Hamburgers. Not to mention with a lot of the beer.

    Actually I think that at one point there were so many German Americans that the idea of making German an official language of the USA was considered. Can't recall where I read this, though.
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  123. @Mario64
    Worshipping Authority

    The real issue at stake is the attitude of the governed toward the rulers. We are used to think that the rulers need the consent of the ruled in order to staying in power and to achieve this goal the most effective tool used by the rulers is “manufacturing consent”. But manufacturing consent in order to be effective needs what Étienne de La Boétie in his “Discours de la servitude volontaire” (Discourse on Voluntary Servitude) defines as the “… secret de toute domination: faire participer les dominés à leur domination” (…the secret of all domination: to make the dominated participate to their domination). The maximum degree of achievement of this goal by the rulers is attained when the relation approval-of-the-rulers-by-the-ruled is inverted which happens when the ruled go as far as to long for the approval by the rulers, just like it happens in a primary school where the pupils long for the approval of their teacher, a situation that is masterfully described by Kafka in “Das Schloss”.

    Just have a look at the style of the articles of Der Spiegel Online International, it looks like a primary school teacher explaining matters to 5th graders, and its manufacturing consent exceeds even the BBC’, which is quite notorious as top champion in the field of news cooking and manipulation.

    Moreover it tells a lot that Merkel is called “Mutti” (mother) which means that Germans love having a ruler that is like a mother that takes care of her children.

    The fact is that their attitude in front of authority didn’t change, their worship of authority is the same they had for Generalfeldmarschall Paul von Hindenburg, for The Führer Hitler and now for Angela Merkel, regardless of the fact that such rulers led their devotees to utter ruin like the “Rattenfänger von Hameln” (Pied Piper of Hamelin) did.

    “The fact is that their attitude in front of authority didn’t change, their worship of authority is the same they had for Generalfeldmarschall Paul von Hindenburg, for The Führer Hitler and now for Angela Merkel”

    I wonder how much of this can be traced to the decision of the WW1 victors to drop the Kaiser and go straight to what Churchill called “democratic forms and liberty in an extreme degree” ? Maybe it’s better for some peoples when the Head Of State (and therefore symbol of the nation/totem of the tribe) isn’t an elected (or unelected) politician.

    “Emperors having been driven out, nonentities were elected. Beneath this flimsy fabric raged the passions of the mighty, defeated, but substantially uninjured German nation. The prejudice of the Americans against monarchy, which Mr. Lloyd George made no attempt to counteract, had made it clear to the beaten Empire that it would have better treatment from the Allies as a republic than as a monarchy. Wise policy would have crowned and fortified the Weimar Republic with a constitutional sovereign in the person of an infant grandson of the Kaiser, under a Council of Regency. Instead, a gaping void was opened in the national life of the German people.”

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    Wise policy would have crowned and fortified the Weimar Republic with a constitutional sovereign in the person of an infant grandson of the Kaiser, under a Council of Regency. Instead, a gaping void was opened in the national life of the German people.
     
    How interesting - the whole question of human identity must be solved. It is such a cause of people to people trouble. It seems that we humans crave an identity.

    Clearly the nation state is a huge source of trouble.

    It is time to return to the smaller city or regional state.

    People can have an identity, but with something that is less dangerous.

    Peace --- Art
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  124. Mario64 says:

    Rotten to the bottom. If it comes from the AUTHORITY it must be good!

    From LIFE SITE almost ten years ago:

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    Booklets from a subsidiary of the German government’s Ministry for Family Affairs encourage parents to sexually massage their children as young as 1 to 3 years of age. Two 40-page booklets entitled “Love, Body and Playing Doctor” by the German Federal Health Education Center (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung – BZgA) are aimed at parents – the first addressing children from 1-3 and the other children from 4-6 years of age.

    “Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex,” reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds. The authors rationalize, “The child touches all parts of their father’s body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same.”

    …… The pamphlet advises parents to permit young children “unlimited masturbation” except where physical injury becomes apparent. It advises: “Children should learn that there is no such thing as shameful parts of the body. The body is a home, which you should be proud of.” For ages 4-6, the booklet recommends teaching children the movements of copulation.

    Another product of the BZgA is a song book aimed at children of four and slightly older which includes several songs espousing masturbation. The song-book entitled “Nose, belly and bum” includes one song with the following lyrics: “When I touch my body, I discover what I have. I have a vagina, because I am a girl. Vagina is not only for peeing. When I touch it, I feel a pleasant tingle.”

    ….. According to the Polish daily newspaper Rzeczpospolita, the BZgA booklet is an obligatory read in nine German regions. It is used for training nursery, kindergarten and elementary school teachers. Ironically it is recommended by many organizations officially fighting pedophilia, such as the German Kunderschutzbund. BZgA sends out millions of copies of the booklet every year.

    Rzeczpospolita reports that the Eckhardt Scheffer of BZgA claimed that before releasing the manual the organization consulted parents, educators and child psychologists. 93% of whom gave a positive evaluation.

    How would such people score at a Milgram experiment?

    You can read the full shame at:

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/german-government-publication-promotes-incestuous-pedophilia-as-healthy-sex

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  125. Art says:
    @Anonymous Nephew
    "The fact is that their attitude in front of authority didn’t change, their worship of authority is the same they had for Generalfeldmarschall Paul von Hindenburg, for The Führer Hitler and now for Angela Merkel"

    I wonder how much of this can be traced to the decision of the WW1 victors to drop the Kaiser and go straight to what Churchill called "democratic forms and liberty in an extreme degree" ? Maybe it's better for some peoples when the Head Of State (and therefore symbol of the nation/totem of the tribe) isn't an elected (or unelected) politician.

    "Emperors having been driven out, nonentities were elected. Beneath this flimsy fabric raged the passions of the mighty, defeated, but substantially uninjured German nation. The prejudice of the Americans against monarchy, which Mr. Lloyd George made no attempt to counteract, had made it clear to the beaten Empire that it would have better treatment from the Allies as a republic than as a monarchy. Wise policy would have crowned and fortified the Weimar Republic with a constitutional sovereign in the person of an infant grandson of the Kaiser, under a Council of Regency. Instead, a gaping void was opened in the national life of the German people."
     

    Wise policy would have crowned and fortified the Weimar Republic with a constitutional sovereign in the person of an infant grandson of the Kaiser, under a Council of Regency. Instead, a gaping void was opened in the national life of the German people.

    How interesting – the whole question of human identity must be solved. It is such a cause of people to people trouble. It seems that we humans crave an identity.

    Clearly the nation state is a huge source of trouble.

    It is time to return to the smaller city or regional state.

    People can have an identity, but with something that is less dangerous.

    Peace — Art

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    Clearly the nation state is a huge source of trouble.

    It is time to return to the smaller city or regional state.
     

    In fact what America's founders were looking for with the 10th Amendment: ” The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    For example, Switzerland speaks four different languages, is a mixture of ethnicities, and has a special kind of Democracy that has successfully held it together since the 15th Century.

    They localize political power at the Cantonal (State) level with the majority of taxes raised and spent locally. Every citizen is required to consider and debate issues so that there is maximum clarity before a local vote. This includes national issues like immigration (stopped) or gay marriage (OK but without the adoption of children). The beauty of this system is that Washington type Special Interests are excluded.

    No one knows the name of the Swiss President.

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  126. @Alden
    I lived in Germany for 5 years. Relatives lived in Germany for many years. We worked in German firms with Germans. We lived in German apartment houses with. German neighbors.

    They are very conformist and submissive. They live rules procedures and authority. They live to tell you how to do your laundry, use the subway, pay a cashier etc. it makes them uncomfortable if you do ordinary things differently.

    I understand Scandinavians are worse.

    Some obscure hbd blogguer already said ”scandinavians are the east asians of Europe” because their too much conformity.

    Well conformity is camuflage, it’s adaptation, every adaptation is basically the camuflage of the environment and how well similar to the environment, reflecting/mirroring their ”needs”, better adapted and protected against predators you will be. Conformity is a sign of primitive mental health. Every animal or organism who become too much evident become a easy prey.

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    "Every animal or organism who become too much evident become a easy prey"
    Brilliant!
    So that's why the French wear stripey sweaters and carry onions everywhere.
    They're the yellowjackets or skunks of Europe, born to never conform.
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  127. Skeptikal says:
    @utu
    "Actually Germans assimilated so well "

    Germans caved in under the pressure of anti-German campaign during WWI and after it. Look at pre WWI and post WWI pictures of Cincinnati or St. Paul and it will look as an ethnic cleansing has happened w/o the actual ethnic cleansing. Germans as if on command ceased to be Germans and became Americans. Changed spelling of their names, changed names of stores to English, streets, dropped Gothic alphabet... It was done under the immense pressure of propaganda: Belgian babies bayoneted by Huns... liberty cabbage.... Then came prohibition that was directed against Germans and especially Catholics. And finally the WWII was the coup de grace. There are no more German-Americans while still there are some other hyphenated ethnic minorities.

    The English royal family also changed its name.
    “The name was changed from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the English Windsor in 1917 because of anti-German sentiment in the British Empire during World War I.”

    So if the royals caved in it is perhaps expecting too much for German Americans in Pennsylvania and the Midwest to stand up and be counted as Germans. So they sat down. But not before taking over the American cookout with Frankfurters, Wieners, and Hamburgers. Not to mention with a lot of the beer.

    Actually I think that at one point there were so many German Americans that the idea of making German an official language of the USA was considered. Can’t recall where I read this, though.

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    They should have done so. Love to see a USA with English and German as official languages.

    Sadly, we are going to get instead a plurality-Mexican Disunited States with Spanish as an official language -- and with it, a lower level of average intelligence, social cohesion, and productivity than that beautiful German/Anglo/Italian/French/Slavic/pan-European America was becoming.

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  128. @Skeptikal
    The English royal family also changed its name.
    "The name was changed from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to the English Windsor in 1917 because of anti-German sentiment in the British Empire during World War I."

    So if the royals caved in it is perhaps expecting too much for German Americans in Pennsylvania and the Midwest to stand up and be counted as Germans. So they sat down. But not before taking over the American cookout with Frankfurters, Wieners, and Hamburgers. Not to mention with a lot of the beer.

    Actually I think that at one point there were so many German Americans that the idea of making German an official language of the USA was considered. Can't recall where I read this, though.

    They should have done so. Love to see a USA with English and German as official languages.

    Sadly, we are going to get instead a plurality-Mexican Disunited States with Spanish as an official language — and with it, a lower level of average intelligence, social cohesion, and productivity than that beautiful German/Anglo/Italian/French/Slavic/pan-European America was becoming.

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  129. Miro23 says:
    @Art

    Wise policy would have crowned and fortified the Weimar Republic with a constitutional sovereign in the person of an infant grandson of the Kaiser, under a Council of Regency. Instead, a gaping void was opened in the national life of the German people.
     
    How interesting - the whole question of human identity must be solved. It is such a cause of people to people trouble. It seems that we humans crave an identity.

    Clearly the nation state is a huge source of trouble.

    It is time to return to the smaller city or regional state.

    People can have an identity, but with something that is less dangerous.

    Peace --- Art

    Clearly the nation state is a huge source of trouble.

    It is time to return to the smaller city or regional state.

    In fact what America’s founders were looking for with the 10th Amendment: ” The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    For example, Switzerland speaks four different languages, is a mixture of ethnicities, and has a special kind of Democracy that has successfully held it together since the 15th Century.

    They localize political power at the Cantonal (State) level with the majority of taxes raised and spent locally. Every citizen is required to consider and debate issues so that there is maximum clarity before a local vote. This includes national issues like immigration (stopped) or gay marriage (OK but without the adoption of children). The beauty of this system is that Washington type Special Interests are excluded.

    No one knows the name of the Swiss President.

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    Miro23, I've written locally advocating a new constitutional convention for the people of the United States. Among my reasons was that lobbyists control government for their purposes, not the "common good" or popular will. I don't know much about the Swiss system,but I know that it appears to be successful, and that we ought to be talking about a devolution of power within the United States.
    , @Talha
    Hey Miro23,

    Very good points - this would definitely roll back empire since that requires a strong centralized government.

    Peace.
    , @Art

    They localize political power at the Cantonal (State) level with the majority of taxes raised and spent locally. Every citizen is required to consider and debate issues so that there is maximum clarity before a local vote. This includes national issues like immigration (stopped) or gay marriage (OK but without the adoption of children). The beauty of this system is that Washington type Special Interests are excluded.
     
    Thanks for bring up the Swiss. How rational they are. Yet people in the next town are called foreigners.

    Neutral - no war - peace!

    Art

    p.s. The unimpeded elevation of the importance of the presidency in America began with the 60's Jew MSM.
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  130. @Authenticjazzman
    " Could this be an example of that sort of thing".

    Yes it could, but perhaps it could not, touche'.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    Yes it could, but perhaps it could not, touche’.

    Why so touchy? ;)

    PS: You could use a proof reader.

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    "Touche'" and " touchy" are two totally different expressions,with two totally different meanings.

    And you expose once again your uneducated phoney pseudo-intellectual mind-set.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.
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  131. @KenH
    Try sticking to the facts.

    The only place the West was engaged in regime change since 2011 was Syria against the Shia (Alawite) government of Bashar Assad and Qadaffi's Libya. Islamists despised both regimes. Yet it's these very Islamists and their sympathizers attacking American and European civilian targets, not Assad or Qadaffi loyalists. The temporary, weak and half hearted anti-ISIS measures by Obama and Hollande in 2016 were cynical attempts to shore up political support and fall far short of regime change and slaughter of Muslims warranting blowback.

    If your loved ones get killed in a Muslim terrorist attack in Europe or the U.S. are you just going to shrug your shoulders and chalk it up to previous regime change efforts by the West?

    What's your excuse for the recent Islamist attack in Switzerland? Are the Swiss guilty because they live so close to Germany?

    Terror begets terror so when Europeans spill Muslim blood on the streets of Europe you will cop out for them just like you do for Muslim terrorists, right?

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    Try sticking to the facts.

    Why bother sticking to facts when hardly anyone else does? Plus, it’s much more fun to make up Sh!t as ya go along, no?

    Anyway, be careful about what you ask for. What’ll ya do if I stick with a few facts that you may not like? Or how about I twist the ones you approve of in ways you may not approve of?

    Hey, what’s a “terrorist” anyway?

    Terror begets terror so when Europeans spill Muslim blood on the streets of Europe you will cop out for them just like you do for Muslim terrorists, right?

    Naw, I’ll probably condemn “terror” in a consistent manner.

    PS: “Anon’s” answer is full of facts. Thanks, “anon!”

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  132. JackOH says:
    @Miro23

    Clearly the nation state is a huge source of trouble.

    It is time to return to the smaller city or regional state.
     

    In fact what America's founders were looking for with the 10th Amendment: ” The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    For example, Switzerland speaks four different languages, is a mixture of ethnicities, and has a special kind of Democracy that has successfully held it together since the 15th Century.

    They localize political power at the Cantonal (State) level with the majority of taxes raised and spent locally. Every citizen is required to consider and debate issues so that there is maximum clarity before a local vote. This includes national issues like immigration (stopped) or gay marriage (OK but without the adoption of children). The beauty of this system is that Washington type Special Interests are excluded.

    No one knows the name of the Swiss President.

    Miro23, I’ve written locally advocating a new constitutional convention for the people of the United States. Among my reasons was that lobbyists control government for their purposes, not the “common good” or popular will. I don’t know much about the Swiss system,but I know that it appears to be successful, and that we ought to be talking about a devolution of power within the United States.

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    Absolutely, the Swiss apparently take their democracy down to the lowest level possible.

    It's much more difficult for example, for AIPAC, the Military Industrial Complex or the Healthcare Lobby to corrupt a system where most tax is raised and spent locally (local decision making and responsibility). Also they're not set up to attend 1000's of town hall meetings and frame an Iraq war as a local expense and benefit.

    There's a small book that nobody seems to have read: “Swiss Democracy” by a British politician, Kenrick Jones, that compares centralized British Democracy with the decentralized Swiss model. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Swiss-Democracy-Kenrick-Jones-ebook/dp/B00654COIG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483021426&sr=8-1&keywords=swiss+democracy%2C+jones

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  133. KenH says:
    @anon
    1. We brought chaos to various Arab and Muslim countries, which chaos enabled the rise of certain terrorist groups.

    2. We've actually supported quite a few of these groups, directly and indirectly.

    3. Nobody here excuses, per se, the murderous acts of these groups on Western soil. If you say so you'll have to provide a quote. A point which has been made is that Western ruling classes have done everything they could to encourage such acts. Do you disagree?

    4. If Euros kill innocent Muslims the act should be deplored. No? But it would be foolish to say either that there was no provocation or that the putative Euro-murderers demonstrate that all Euros are bloodthirsty fanatics.

    1. We brought chaos to various Arab and Muslim countries, which chaos enabled the rise of certain terrorist groups.

    The chaos has indeed enabled the rise of certain terrorist groups, but you’re oversimplifying a bit. The “West is responsible for everything” American left overlooks the fact that Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and possibly other Muslim states are chief enablers of the Wahhabi fanatics running wild in Iraq and Syria. And let’s not forget Israel said they “prefer the bad guys not backed by Iran” which would be the Wahabbi cutthroats and brigands.

    The U.S. has withdrawn considerably since the troop pullout from Iraq in December 2011 and are killing very few Muslims these days and even then trying to focus on Wahabbi whack jobs who themselves are murdering their fellow Muslims, Christians and Yazidis, not innocent women and children.

    There’s a lot of blame to go around these days, but Western liberals are laser focused only on the U.S. and “sphere” nations in Europe. They discount or grossly understate the role of the Islamic religion and religious motivation of the attackers. And the role Israel plays in shaping the foreign policies of the U.S. and Britain and to a lesser extent other Western nations.

    Recall that France, the victim of some horrific terror attacks the last few years, was steadfastly opposed to the Iraq invasion in 2003 and they were on the “Assad must go” train until about the last year. France’s previous attempts at averting war and opposing Assad obviously didn’t score them points with the Islamists who continue to attack anyway (and threaten more attacks).

    Final points:
    1) The left is trying to shoehorn the terrorist attacks of the last couple of years into an outdated ‘The West is responsible no matter what” ideological framework . This may have had currency in the 1990′s through the early first decade of the 21st century, but time has now passed them by and they need new material.
    2) Elements of the left (the interventionist left) supported the Iraq war and believed the deposition of Saddam Hussein would unleash the social justice warrior within of the Iraqi people and instill a yearning for liberal democracy. They badly miscalculated and are trying to make people forget their former position.
    3) Egyptian Coptic Christians haven’t regime changed anyone yet they’ve suffered destruction of a few of their churches, murder and the kidnapping and forcible conversion of some of their women by the Islamists.

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    Yes, American leftists (probably elsewhere too, but I don't have firsthand knowledge) are often both stupid and disingenuous. And it was initially leftists that screwed up Afghanistan too, and gave them the multi-generational war they have.

    The plight of the ME Christians is something that should get more attention; I entirely agree. If the role of the West in the region could be limited to their protection, I would be very happy. At least in Egypt Sisi seems better in that connection than his predecessor. And of course Assad's victory in Syria will be very good for the Christians there.
    , @jacques sheete

    1) The left is trying to shoehorn the terrorist attacks of the last couple of years into an outdated ‘The West is responsible no matter what” ideological framework .
     
    Let's stick to facts (as you recommended to me).

    Fact 1. Blaming “leftists” for attempting “to shoehorn the terrorist attacks of the last couple of years into an outdated ‘The West is responsible no matter what’ ideological framework” is, itself, oversimplifying matters to an astonishing degree.

    Fact 2. Speaking of things “outdated," the left/right dichotomy is not only outdated and beyond useless, but to call it oversimplified would be to give the concept credit which it hasn't deserved for decades.

    Happy New year!
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  134. @annamaria
    "Rudolf was denied his PhD, lost his job ... was imprisoned for almost 5 years, had his home searched several times, books and manuscripts removed, books burned..."
    Sounds painfully familiar, does'n it?
    There is a problem of fervent pretense on exceptional morality in the context of the openly authoritarian methods of suppressing any questioning of historical events; plus, of course, the ongoing colonization and wars in the Middle East.
    A documented history of Bolshevism in Russia, which has been sequestered by ALL major publishing houses in the US/UK, is another case in point.
    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-years-together-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn/
    Not that I am trying to accuse you personally in the obscenity of the Lobby's behavior. But one cannot deny the fact that there used to be a tremendous sympathy of people of the western civilization towards Jewish people, and that this sympathy has been wasted. The 20-th century and the beginning of the 21-st century have been disastrous for the tribe in many respects. Two menacing phenomena, Bolshevism and Zionism, could explain the growing animosity towards Jewish censorship.

    Thank you so much for that link, annamaria! Saker has mentioned this book several times, and I keep wanting to read it, but I don’t know Russian. At some point, a Russian publisher ought to consider doing an English translation and selling it to western retailers, or by mail-order.

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    Google "Adams blog, 2oo years" and you can read it in English.
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  135. Miro23 says:
    @JackOH
    Miro23, I've written locally advocating a new constitutional convention for the people of the United States. Among my reasons was that lobbyists control government for their purposes, not the "common good" or popular will. I don't know much about the Swiss system,but I know that it appears to be successful, and that we ought to be talking about a devolution of power within the United States.

    Absolutely, the Swiss apparently take their democracy down to the lowest level possible.

    It’s much more difficult for example, for AIPAC, the Military Industrial Complex or the Healthcare Lobby to corrupt a system where most tax is raised and spent locally (local decision making and responsibility). Also they’re not set up to attend 1000′s of town hall meetings and frame an Iraq war as a local expense and benefit.

    There’s a small book that nobody seems to have read: “Swiss Democracy” by a British politician, Kenrick Jones, that compares centralized British Democracy with the decentralized Swiss model. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Swiss-Democracy-Kenrick-Jones-ebook/dp/B00654COIG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483021426&sr=8-1&keywords=swiss+democracy%2C+jones

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    It’s much more difficult for example, for AIPAC, the Military Industrial Complex or the Healthcare Lobby to corrupt a system where most tax is raised and spent locally (local decision making and responsibility). Also they’re not set up to attend 1000′s of town hall meetings and frame an Iraq war as a local expense and benefit.
     
    That's a bit optimistic.

    The "lobby by other means/disguises" controls US public education, US media, US universities, US publishing and US public libraries.

    Has anybody here attended a local school board meeting and protested against the requirement that their children, in schools their taxes pay for, read Elie Weisel and Anne Frank? How did it work out for ya?
    , @JackOH
    Miro23, thanks.

    "It’s much more difficult for example, for AIPAC, the Military Industrial Complex or the Healthcare Lobby to corrupt a system where most tax is raised and spent locally (local decision making and responsibility)."

    Exactly. Many Americans, I think, are led to believe our current Federal government executes national policies, as though arrived at by some rational and transparent political calculus. The "rational" part exists, but it's the rationality of the brokered deal in a high-end DC restaurant.

    I'm not sure devolution or "secessionism" are great ideas, but I do believe a debate on the rationale for a new constitutional convention will give us some better ideas on how we wish to be governed.
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  136. Talha says:
    @Miro23

    Clearly the nation state is a huge source of trouble.

    It is time to return to the smaller city or regional state.
     

    In fact what America's founders were looking for with the 10th Amendment: ” The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    For example, Switzerland speaks four different languages, is a mixture of ethnicities, and has a special kind of Democracy that has successfully held it together since the 15th Century.

    They localize political power at the Cantonal (State) level with the majority of taxes raised and spent locally. Every citizen is required to consider and debate issues so that there is maximum clarity before a local vote. This includes national issues like immigration (stopped) or gay marriage (OK but without the adoption of children). The beauty of this system is that Washington type Special Interests are excluded.

    No one knows the name of the Swiss President.

    Hey Miro23,

    Very good points – this would definitely roll back empire since that requires a strong centralized government.

    Peace.

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  137. Miro23 says:
    @Seamus Padraig
    Thank you so much for that link, annamaria! Saker has mentioned this book several times, and I keep wanting to read it, but I don't know Russian. At some point, a Russian publisher ought to consider doing an English translation and selling it to western retailers, or by mail-order.

    Google “Adams blog, 2oo years” and you can read it in English.

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  138. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @KenH

    1. We brought chaos to various Arab and Muslim countries, which chaos enabled the rise of certain terrorist groups.
     
    The chaos has indeed enabled the rise of certain terrorist groups, but you're oversimplifying a bit. The "West is responsible for everything" American left overlooks the fact that Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and possibly other Muslim states are chief enablers of the Wahhabi fanatics running wild in Iraq and Syria. And let's not forget Israel said they "prefer the bad guys not backed by Iran" which would be the Wahabbi cutthroats and brigands.

    The U.S. has withdrawn considerably since the troop pullout from Iraq in December 2011 and are killing very few Muslims these days and even then trying to focus on Wahabbi whack jobs who themselves are murdering their fellow Muslims, Christians and Yazidis, not innocent women and children.

    There's a lot of blame to go around these days, but Western liberals are laser focused only on the U.S. and "sphere" nations in Europe. They discount or grossly understate the role of the Islamic religion and religious motivation of the attackers. And the role Israel plays in shaping the foreign policies of the U.S. and Britain and to a lesser extent other Western nations.

    Recall that France, the victim of some horrific terror attacks the last few years, was steadfastly opposed to the Iraq invasion in 2003 and they were on the "Assad must go" train until about the last year. France's previous attempts at averting war and opposing Assad obviously didn't score them points with the Islamists who continue to attack anyway (and threaten more attacks).

    Final points:
    1) The left is trying to shoehorn the terrorist attacks of the last couple of years into an outdated 'The West is responsible no matter what" ideological framework . This may have had currency in the 1990's through the early first decade of the 21st century, but time has now passed them by and they need new material.
    2) Elements of the left (the interventionist left) supported the Iraq war and believed the deposition of Saddam Hussein would unleash the social justice warrior within of the Iraqi people and instill a yearning for liberal democracy. They badly miscalculated and are trying to make people forget their former position.
    3) Egyptian Coptic Christians haven't regime changed anyone yet they've suffered destruction of a few of their churches, murder and the kidnapping and forcible conversion of some of their women by the Islamists.

    Yes, American leftists (probably elsewhere too, but I don’t have firsthand knowledge) are often both stupid and disingenuous. And it was initially leftists that screwed up Afghanistan too, and gave them the multi-generational war they have.

    The plight of the ME Christians is something that should get more attention; I entirely agree. If the role of the West in the region could be limited to their protection, I would be very happy. At least in Egypt Sisi seems better in that connection than his predecessor. And of course Assad’s victory in Syria will be very good for the Christians there.

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    " And it was initially leftists that screwed up Afghanistan too, and gave them the multi-generational war they have"\

    Ouch.
    How are you defining leftists?
    Which leftists? Names?
    Does "they have" refer to the leftists, or the Afghans?
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  139. @Santoculto
    Some obscure hbd blogguer already said ''scandinavians are the east asians of Europe'' because their too much conformity.

    Well conformity is camuflage, it's adaptation, every adaptation is basically the camuflage of the environment and how well similar to the environment, reflecting/mirroring their ''needs'', better adapted and protected against predators you will be. Conformity is a sign of primitive mental health. Every animal or organism who become too much evident become a easy prey.

    “Every animal or organism who become too much evident become a easy prey”
    Brilliant!
    So that’s why the French wear stripey sweaters and carry onions everywhere.
    They’re the yellowjackets or skunks of Europe, born to never conform.

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  140. @Miro23
    Absolutely, the Swiss apparently take their democracy down to the lowest level possible.

    It's much more difficult for example, for AIPAC, the Military Industrial Complex or the Healthcare Lobby to corrupt a system where most tax is raised and spent locally (local decision making and responsibility). Also they're not set up to attend 1000's of town hall meetings and frame an Iraq war as a local expense and benefit.

    There's a small book that nobody seems to have read: “Swiss Democracy” by a British politician, Kenrick Jones, that compares centralized British Democracy with the decentralized Swiss model. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Swiss-Democracy-Kenrick-Jones-ebook/dp/B00654COIG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483021426&sr=8-1&keywords=swiss+democracy%2C+jones

    It’s much more difficult for example, for AIPAC, the Military Industrial Complex or the Healthcare Lobby to corrupt a system where most tax is raised and spent locally (local decision making and responsibility). Also they’re not set up to attend 1000′s of town hall meetings and frame an Iraq war as a local expense and benefit.

    That’s a bit optimistic.

    The “lobby by other means/disguises” controls US public education, US media, US universities, US publishing and US public libraries.

    Has anybody here attended a local school board meeting and protested against the requirement that their children, in schools their taxes pay for, read Elie Weisel and Anne Frank? How did it work out for ya?

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    It's still a local entity.
    That is the point here, I think.
    Or are you saying that the requirement to read the Diary of Anne Frank and a book by Wiesel originates in a central agency?

    Actually, instead of protesting the reading of those works, why not suggest adding others to the curriculum, or even discussing the books with your kids at home and giving them books to read that present counter arguments and information?

    Wouldn't that be an example of the free marketplace of ideas?
    , @Miro23
    Following their system, power (taxation and spending) is pushed down to the lowest practical level which in the US would be the County.

    For instance in Geneva, Jones shows that the major responsibilities such as health, police, law and education are taken on locally (at the Cantonal level) and are also funded locally. In 2002 they collected locally 84% of the money they needed through an income tax, capital tax and rates, with the Swiss obliged to participate in local decision making plus detailed Commissions of Inquiry to look into issues prior to a vote.

    So, how would US education change if schools were paid for out of local taxation and managed locally?

    The system would probably involve consultation of interested parties (parents, teachers, school directors etc.), probably with plenty of responsibility being placed on a school directors with the right to hire and fire and pay teachers salaries on results. Elie Wiesel and Anne Frank may well be faded in favour of STEM subjects.

    Jones interviewed Monsieur Kyburz, Lord Mayor of the 46 Communes of Geneva and Mayor of the Commune of Carouge, who stated that the driving force behind all Swiss democracy is the principle of subsidiarity i.e. devolving power down to the smallest viable unit that can support it. “So in Geneva, each Commune has as much power as it can usefully exploit.”. He also said that participatory democracy can be frustrating and costly but that citizen involvement makes it more than worthwhile.

    BTW Swiss high school students came out in the top European rankings in the PISA 2016 world tests (science, math and reading) with world position 9, behind the Asians but well ahead of the US (34).
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  141. Art says:
    @Miro23

    Clearly the nation state is a huge source of trouble.

    It is time to return to the smaller city or regional state.
     

    In fact what America's founders were looking for with the 10th Amendment: ” The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    For example, Switzerland speaks four different languages, is a mixture of ethnicities, and has a special kind of Democracy that has successfully held it together since the 15th Century.

    They localize political power at the Cantonal (State) level with the majority of taxes raised and spent locally. Every citizen is required to consider and debate issues so that there is maximum clarity before a local vote. This includes national issues like immigration (stopped) or gay marriage (OK but without the adoption of children). The beauty of this system is that Washington type Special Interests are excluded.

    No one knows the name of the Swiss President.

    They localize political power at the Cantonal (State) level with the majority of taxes raised and spent locally. Every citizen is required to consider and debate issues so that there is maximum clarity before a local vote. This includes national issues like immigration (stopped) or gay marriage (OK but without the adoption of children). The beauty of this system is that Washington type Special Interests are excluded.

    Thanks for bring up the Swiss. How rational they are. Yet people in the next town are called foreigners.

    Neutral – no war – peace!

    Art

    p.s. The unimpeded elevation of the importance of the presidency in America began with the 60′s Jew MSM.

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  142. @jacques sheete

    Yes it could, but perhaps it could not, touche’.
     
    Why so touchy? ;)

    PS: You could use a proof reader.

    “Touche’” and ” touchy” are two totally different expressions,with two totally different meanings.

    And you expose once again your uneducated phoney pseudo-intellectual mind-set.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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    “Touche’” and ” touchy” are two totally different expressions,with two totally different meanings.
     
    No, reaaaally? Whooda ever thunk it?

    I guess you intelligent ones can't even appreciate a little word play, even if it was a bit sophomoric. But then my excuse is that my IQ is near my shoe size, (American), so what do you expect? Have a little pity on us untermenschen, will ya?

    Who exposed what, again? Too funny.

    ROFL.
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  143. @KenH

    1. We brought chaos to various Arab and Muslim countries, which chaos enabled the rise of certain terrorist groups.
     
    The chaos has indeed enabled the rise of certain terrorist groups, but you're oversimplifying a bit. The "West is responsible for everything" American left overlooks the fact that Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and possibly other Muslim states are chief enablers of the Wahhabi fanatics running wild in Iraq and Syria. And let's not forget Israel said they "prefer the bad guys not backed by Iran" which would be the Wahabbi cutthroats and brigands.

    The U.S. has withdrawn considerably since the troop pullout from Iraq in December 2011 and are killing very few Muslims these days and even then trying to focus on Wahabbi whack jobs who themselves are murdering their fellow Muslims, Christians and Yazidis, not innocent women and children.

    There's a lot of blame to go around these days, but Western liberals are laser focused only on the U.S. and "sphere" nations in Europe. They discount or grossly understate the role of the Islamic religion and religious motivation of the attackers. And the role Israel plays in shaping the foreign policies of the U.S. and Britain and to a lesser extent other Western nations.

    Recall that France, the victim of some horrific terror attacks the last few years, was steadfastly opposed to the Iraq invasion in 2003 and they were on the "Assad must go" train until about the last year. France's previous attempts at averting war and opposing Assad obviously didn't score them points with the Islamists who continue to attack anyway (and threaten more attacks).

    Final points:
    1) The left is trying to shoehorn the terrorist attacks of the last couple of years into an outdated 'The West is responsible no matter what" ideological framework . This may have had currency in the 1990's through the early first decade of the 21st century, but time has now passed them by and they need new material.
    2) Elements of the left (the interventionist left) supported the Iraq war and believed the deposition of Saddam Hussein would unleash the social justice warrior within of the Iraqi people and instill a yearning for liberal democracy. They badly miscalculated and are trying to make people forget their former position.
    3) Egyptian Coptic Christians haven't regime changed anyone yet they've suffered destruction of a few of their churches, murder and the kidnapping and forcible conversion of some of their women by the Islamists.

    1) The left is trying to shoehorn the terrorist attacks of the last couple of years into an outdated ‘The West is responsible no matter what” ideological framework .

    Let’s stick to facts (as you recommended to me).

    Fact 1. Blaming “leftists” for attempting “to shoehorn the terrorist attacks of the last couple of years into an outdated ‘The West is responsible no matter what’ ideological framework” is, itself, oversimplifying matters to an astonishing degree.

    Fact 2. Speaking of things “outdated,” the left/right dichotomy is not only outdated and beyond useless, but to call it oversimplified would be to give the concept credit which it hasn’t deserved for decades.

    Happy New year!

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    Speaking of things “outdated,” the left/right dichotomy is not only outdated and beyond useless, but to call it oversimplified would be to give the concept credit which it hasn’t deserved for decades.
     
    Very true but it seems to be impossible to get most people to understand this.
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  144. Absolutely, the Swiss apparently take their democracy down to the lowest level possible.

    Which is exactly the only way a democracy can work. Please note that the Greeks who advocated democracy were thinking only of small, relatively intimate, city states. And it’s why Patrick Henry boycotted the 1787 constitutional convention in Philly saying, “I smell a rat.”

    No ‘Merkin needs to read any book about Swiss democracy; all he has to do is read the works of the anti-Federalists. They are some really fun reads.

    Now, in a large extended country, it is impossible to have a representation, possessing the sentiments, and of integrity, to declare the minds of the people, without having it so numerous and unwieldly, as to be subject in great measure to the inconveniency of a democratic government.

    The territory of the United States is of vast extent; it now contains near three millions of souls, and is capable of containing much more than ten times that number. Is it practicable for a country, so large and so numerous as they will soon become, to elect a representation, that will speak their sentiments, without their becoming so numerous as to be incapable of transacting public business? It certainly is not.

    Brutus, (Robert Yates), To the Citizens of the State of New-York, October 18, 1787

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  145. Skeptikal says:
    @Anon
    Yes, American leftists (probably elsewhere too, but I don't have firsthand knowledge) are often both stupid and disingenuous. And it was initially leftists that screwed up Afghanistan too, and gave them the multi-generational war they have.

    The plight of the ME Christians is something that should get more attention; I entirely agree. If the role of the West in the region could be limited to their protection, I would be very happy. At least in Egypt Sisi seems better in that connection than his predecessor. And of course Assad's victory in Syria will be very good for the Christians there.

    ” And it was initially leftists that screwed up Afghanistan too, and gave them the multi-generational war they have”\

    Ouch.
    How are you defining leftists?
    Which leftists? Names?
    Does “they have” refer to the leftists, or the Afghans?

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    Leftists: Soviets and their Afghan collaborators. Names easily available. The intended referent of "they" is "the inhabitants of Afghanistan".
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  146. Skeptikal says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    It’s much more difficult for example, for AIPAC, the Military Industrial Complex or the Healthcare Lobby to corrupt a system where most tax is raised and spent locally (local decision making and responsibility). Also they’re not set up to attend 1000′s of town hall meetings and frame an Iraq war as a local expense and benefit.
     
    That's a bit optimistic.

    The "lobby by other means/disguises" controls US public education, US media, US universities, US publishing and US public libraries.

    Has anybody here attended a local school board meeting and protested against the requirement that their children, in schools their taxes pay for, read Elie Weisel and Anne Frank? How did it work out for ya?

    It’s still a local entity.
    That is the point here, I think.
    Or are you saying that the requirement to read the Diary of Anne Frank and a book by Wiesel originates in a central agency?

    Actually, instead of protesting the reading of those works, why not suggest adding others to the curriculum, or even discussing the books with your kids at home and giving them books to read that present counter arguments and information?

    Wouldn’t that be an example of the free marketplace of ideas?

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    are you saying that the requirement to read the Diary of Anne Frank and a book by Wiesel originates in a central agency?
     
    That is the case -- those requirements come from a central agency (ADL), but that's not the argument I'm making: I am saying that persons who enforce the Anne Frank - Wiesel requirement sit on school councils and would confound any "free marketplace of ideas" suggestions. I know this from direct, costly experience over several years in three or four vastly different locales.
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  147. Miro23 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    It’s much more difficult for example, for AIPAC, the Military Industrial Complex or the Healthcare Lobby to corrupt a system where most tax is raised and spent locally (local decision making and responsibility). Also they’re not set up to attend 1000′s of town hall meetings and frame an Iraq war as a local expense and benefit.
     
    That's a bit optimistic.

    The "lobby by other means/disguises" controls US public education, US media, US universities, US publishing and US public libraries.

    Has anybody here attended a local school board meeting and protested against the requirement that their children, in schools their taxes pay for, read Elie Weisel and Anne Frank? How did it work out for ya?

    Following their system, power (taxation and spending) is pushed down to the lowest practical level which in the US would be the County.

    For instance in Geneva, Jones shows that the major responsibilities such as health, police, law and education are taken on locally (at the Cantonal level) and are also funded locally. In 2002 they collected locally 84% of the money they needed through an income tax, capital tax and rates, with the Swiss obliged to participate in local decision making plus detailed Commissions of Inquiry to look into issues prior to a vote.

    So, how would US education change if schools were paid for out of local taxation and managed locally?

    The system would probably involve consultation of interested parties (parents, teachers, school directors etc.), probably with plenty of responsibility being placed on a school directors with the right to hire and fire and pay teachers salaries on results. Elie Wiesel and Anne Frank may well be faded in favour of STEM subjects.

    Jones interviewed Monsieur Kyburz, Lord Mayor of the 46 Communes of Geneva and Mayor of the Commune of Carouge, who stated that the driving force behind all Swiss democracy is the principle of subsidiarity i.e. devolving power down to the smallest viable unit that can support it. “So in Geneva, each Commune has as much power as it can usefully exploit.”. He also said that participatory democracy can be frustrating and costly but that citizen involvement makes it more than worthwhile.

    BTW Swiss high school students came out in the top European rankings in the PISA 2016 world tests (science, math and reading) with world position 9, behind the Asians but well ahead of the US (34).

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    "So, how would US education change if schools were paid for out of local taxation and managed locally? "

    I believe schools in the USA are primarily funded from local taxation, i.e., property taxes, and and managed locally by school committees. They may get various state and federal grants, but I am quite sure they are funded locally. That is one reason quality is so incredibly uneven in our public schools. Taht is the reason that people move to communities they cannot really afford: so that their children can go to superior schools. States do weigh in with textbook and curriculum suggestions, however (I think). Also, states mandate standardized tests.
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  148. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Skeptikal
    " And it was initially leftists that screwed up Afghanistan too, and gave them the multi-generational war they have"\

    Ouch.
    How are you defining leftists?
    Which leftists? Names?
    Does "they have" refer to the leftists, or the Afghans?

    Leftists: Soviets and their Afghan collaborators. Names easily available. The intended referent of “they” is “the inhabitants of Afghanistan”.

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  149. @Skeptikal
    It's still a local entity.
    That is the point here, I think.
    Or are you saying that the requirement to read the Diary of Anne Frank and a book by Wiesel originates in a central agency?

    Actually, instead of protesting the reading of those works, why not suggest adding others to the curriculum, or even discussing the books with your kids at home and giving them books to read that present counter arguments and information?

    Wouldn't that be an example of the free marketplace of ideas?

    are you saying that the requirement to read the Diary of Anne Frank and a book by Wiesel originates in a central agency?

    That is the case — those requirements come from a central agency (ADL), but that’s not the argument I’m making: I am saying that persons who enforce the Anne Frank – Wiesel requirement sit on school councils and would confound any “free marketplace of ideas” suggestions. I know this from direct, costly experience over several years in three or four vastly different locales.

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    There’s a cabal that sits in New York City and decides what approved “history” is taught nationwide in at least our grade schools. If nothing else, a single view of Europeans-bad history would be deadly boring.
    , @Miro23

    I am saying that persons who enforce the Anne Frank – Wiesel requirement sit on school councils and would confound any “free marketplace of ideas” suggestions. I know this from direct, costly experience over several years in three or four vastly different locales.
     
    I'm not Swiss, and I'm only following Jones' research, but the key seems to be more or less obligatory involvement of parents, teachers and administrators in any Anne Frank - Wiesel type decision. When everyone has genuinely been allowed to have their say, then a (secret) vote is held on the different options.

    Cultural Marxists prefer to operate in private, leveraging the existing power structure and imposing their agenda on the public, and they're not in favour of open debate (e.g. witness the angst around the recent Presidential debates). When they're cornered, they typically start shouting about "racism", "Deplorables" etc. - and lose a vote.

    The idea is real power at the local level.

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  150. OutWest says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    are you saying that the requirement to read the Diary of Anne Frank and a book by Wiesel originates in a central agency?
     
    That is the case -- those requirements come from a central agency (ADL), but that's not the argument I'm making: I am saying that persons who enforce the Anne Frank - Wiesel requirement sit on school councils and would confound any "free marketplace of ideas" suggestions. I know this from direct, costly experience over several years in three or four vastly different locales.

    There’s a cabal that sits in New York City and decides what approved “history” is taught nationwide in at least our grade schools. If nothing else, a single view of Europeans-bad history would be deadly boring.

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    The detailed histories of other cultures should be taught, insofar as they have any records at all, and European civilization left to the libraries and the web, for the curious and motivated.
    OK I've got China, Japan, India (the whole lot), Persia, some Egypt, maybe the Maya, and after that I'm toiling a bit (being fairly ignorant myself).
    The only condition being that these external histories must be taught in the relevant language, exclusively. Total immersion, no English, German, French, Latin, Greek and so on.
    That would be cultural appropriation, and will lead inevitably to whitesplaining.
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  151. Skeptikal says:
    @Miro23
    Following their system, power (taxation and spending) is pushed down to the lowest practical level which in the US would be the County.

    For instance in Geneva, Jones shows that the major responsibilities such as health, police, law and education are taken on locally (at the Cantonal level) and are also funded locally. In 2002 they collected locally 84% of the money they needed through an income tax, capital tax and rates, with the Swiss obliged to participate in local decision making plus detailed Commissions of Inquiry to look into issues prior to a vote.

    So, how would US education change if schools were paid for out of local taxation and managed locally?

    The system would probably involve consultation of interested parties (parents, teachers, school directors etc.), probably with plenty of responsibility being placed on a school directors with the right to hire and fire and pay teachers salaries on results. Elie Wiesel and Anne Frank may well be faded in favour of STEM subjects.

    Jones interviewed Monsieur Kyburz, Lord Mayor of the 46 Communes of Geneva and Mayor of the Commune of Carouge, who stated that the driving force behind all Swiss democracy is the principle of subsidiarity i.e. devolving power down to the smallest viable unit that can support it. “So in Geneva, each Commune has as much power as it can usefully exploit.”. He also said that participatory democracy can be frustrating and costly but that citizen involvement makes it more than worthwhile.

    BTW Swiss high school students came out in the top European rankings in the PISA 2016 world tests (science, math and reading) with world position 9, behind the Asians but well ahead of the US (34).

    “So, how would US education change if schools were paid for out of local taxation and managed locally? ”

    I believe schools in the USA are primarily funded from local taxation, i.e., property taxes, and and managed locally by school committees. They may get various state and federal grants, but I am quite sure they are funded locally. That is one reason quality is so incredibly uneven in our public schools. Taht is the reason that people move to communities they cannot really afford: so that their children can go to superior schools. States do weigh in with textbook and curriculum suggestions, however (I think). Also, states mandate standardized tests.

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    "I am quite sure they are funded locally. That is one reason quality is so incredibly uneven in our public schools."

    Excellent explanation. For a moment I thought that you were going to go into obviously-irrelevant demographic explanations. Always remember that the slate is blank, and you'll never go wrong.
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  152. This is insane. Europe must become multicultural and Nationalism is bad, but Europe supports Israel! To top it off — if you have trouble seeing what’s happening — Jews are at the forefront of the multicultural bandwagon. What? They build a nationalist state second to none, a real power center, then fragment all the Arab neighbors and send them to Europe so European countries can be multicultural and Israel can dominate everyone. How blind and stupid do you have to be? This is the interest of Zionists, the interests of supremacists! It is transparent.

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  153. a German- says:

    Don’t now which germany the author means, mine is different.

    The Truck did no more harm than a similar traffic jam at Stauende on a foggy Autobahn.
    The reaction I see about the “attac” is “thank you Merkel”. Nobody is in anger, anybody expected things like this. It’s nothing.

    Even the rapes are at a far lower level than expected. When so much young mans came from underdeveloped countries it’s unavoidable. We absorbed them, feed them and closed the EU borders. This will not happen again and we know exactly the grandmasters who initiated this.

    Everywhere people coming together and discuss seriously what to do. Everywhere is security now and the infrastructure is more save than ever.

    Germany has a vast experience of wartime and what it means to be at war (and of allied mass murdering too) . All important supplies are redundant and the people? Shure they are blind obeyer to government. But more shure we will switch to Russia faster then your Masters will say “We came, we saw, he died”.

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    Excellent satire. Almost a believable portrayal of the typical cucked German xenophiliac. Kudos. The power of brainwashing is remarkable, isn't it?
    , @Dumbo
    "Even the rapes are at a far lower level than expected. "

    That is great. I mean, what is a little rape of your women by foreigners now and then. Let's clothe and feed the rapists, by all means. They may even help to increase the birth rate of German women.

    Maybe Germany should change its name to Cuckenland?
    , @Quern
    @ "a German"

    Why have you been impersonating me? I must say!

    All you have written is wrong, and you indeed must be a satirist, in which case you are to be commended, or you might possibly be serious, in which case you are to be pitied. :lol:

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  154. @Authenticjazzman
    "Touche'" and " touchy" are two totally different expressions,with two totally different meanings.

    And you expose once again your uneducated phoney pseudo-intellectual mind-set.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" Society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    “Touche’” and ” touchy” are two totally different expressions,with two totally different meanings.

    No, reaaaally? Whooda ever thunk it?

    I guess you intelligent ones can’t even appreciate a little word play, even if it was a bit sophomoric. But then my excuse is that my IQ is near my shoe size, (American), so what do you expect? Have a little pity on us untermenschen, will ya?

    Who exposed what, again? Too funny.

    ROFL.

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  155. Miro23 says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    are you saying that the requirement to read the Diary of Anne Frank and a book by Wiesel originates in a central agency?
     
    That is the case -- those requirements come from a central agency (ADL), but that's not the argument I'm making: I am saying that persons who enforce the Anne Frank - Wiesel requirement sit on school councils and would confound any "free marketplace of ideas" suggestions. I know this from direct, costly experience over several years in three or four vastly different locales.

    I am saying that persons who enforce the Anne Frank – Wiesel requirement sit on school councils and would confound any “free marketplace of ideas” suggestions. I know this from direct, costly experience over several years in three or four vastly different locales.

    I’m not Swiss, and I’m only following Jones’ research, but the key seems to be more or less obligatory involvement of parents, teachers and administrators in any Anne Frank – Wiesel type decision. When everyone has genuinely been allowed to have their say, then a (secret) vote is held on the different options.

    Cultural Marxists prefer to operate in private, leveraging the existing power structure and imposing their agenda on the public, and they’re not in favour of open debate (e.g. witness the angst around the recent Presidential debates). When they’re cornered, they typically start shouting about “racism”, “Deplorables” etc. – and lose a vote.

    The idea is real power at the local level.

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    The idea is real power at the local level, but this would require a much higher level of public engagement.

    And this is probably partly why the Swiss system of local democracy is so uncommon , 1) it requires time and commitment from each citizen 2) power tends to filter towards the better organized centre unless it is locally protected 3) the special requirements of the Swiss with different languages, ethnicities and physically separate regions that more or less forced it onto them. The official name of Switzerland is actually the Swiss Confederation.

    If the US tried this, it would be returning to the Founder's original intentions expressed in the 10th Amendment, with power held by the States and a minimal Federal government, but getting from here to there is a different question, that would involve the deconstruction of the present system in favour of a new legislative framework based on the 10th Amendment and the creation of an American Confederation.

    I'm not at all expecting it to happen, but it's a theoretical possibility.
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  156. Miro23 says:
    @Miro23

    I am saying that persons who enforce the Anne Frank – Wiesel requirement sit on school councils and would confound any “free marketplace of ideas” suggestions. I know this from direct, costly experience over several years in three or four vastly different locales.
     
    I'm not Swiss, and I'm only following Jones' research, but the key seems to be more or less obligatory involvement of parents, teachers and administrators in any Anne Frank - Wiesel type decision. When everyone has genuinely been allowed to have their say, then a (secret) vote is held on the different options.

    Cultural Marxists prefer to operate in private, leveraging the existing power structure and imposing their agenda on the public, and they're not in favour of open debate (e.g. witness the angst around the recent Presidential debates). When they're cornered, they typically start shouting about "racism", "Deplorables" etc. - and lose a vote.

    The idea is real power at the local level.

    The idea is real power at the local level, but this would require a much higher level of public engagement.

    And this is probably partly why the Swiss system of local democracy is so uncommon , 1) it requires time and commitment from each citizen 2) power tends to filter towards the better organized centre unless it is locally protected 3) the special requirements of the Swiss with different languages, ethnicities and physically separate regions that more or less forced it onto them. The official name of Switzerland is actually the Swiss Confederation.

    If the US tried this, it would be returning to the Founder’s original intentions expressed in the 10th Amendment, with power held by the States and a minimal Federal government, but getting from here to there is a different question, that would involve the deconstruction of the present system in favour of a new legislative framework based on the 10th Amendment and the creation of an American Confederation.

    I’m not at all expecting it to happen, but it’s a theoretical possibility.

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    thanks Miro23.
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  157. @OutWest
    There’s a cabal that sits in New York City and decides what approved “history” is taught nationwide in at least our grade schools. If nothing else, a single view of Europeans-bad history would be deadly boring.

    The detailed histories of other cultures should be taught, insofar as they have any records at all, and European civilization left to the libraries and the web, for the curious and motivated.
    OK I’ve got China, Japan, India (the whole lot), Persia, some Egypt, maybe the Maya, and after that I’m toiling a bit (being fairly ignorant myself).
    The only condition being that these external histories must be taught in the relevant language, exclusively. Total immersion, no English, German, French, Latin, Greek and so on.
    That would be cultural appropriation, and will lead inevitably to whitesplaining.

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  158. @Miro23
    The idea is real power at the local level, but this would require a much higher level of public engagement.

    And this is probably partly why the Swiss system of local democracy is so uncommon , 1) it requires time and commitment from each citizen 2) power tends to filter towards the better organized centre unless it is locally protected 3) the special requirements of the Swiss with different languages, ethnicities and physically separate regions that more or less forced it onto them. The official name of Switzerland is actually the Swiss Confederation.

    If the US tried this, it would be returning to the Founder's original intentions expressed in the 10th Amendment, with power held by the States and a minimal Federal government, but getting from here to there is a different question, that would involve the deconstruction of the present system in favour of a new legislative framework based on the 10th Amendment and the creation of an American Confederation.

    I'm not at all expecting it to happen, but it's a theoretical possibility.

    thanks Miro23.

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  159. JackOH says:
    @Miro23
    Absolutely, the Swiss apparently take their democracy down to the lowest level possible.

    It's much more difficult for example, for AIPAC, the Military Industrial Complex or the Healthcare Lobby to corrupt a system where most tax is raised and spent locally (local decision making and responsibility). Also they're not set up to attend 1000's of town hall meetings and frame an Iraq war as a local expense and benefit.

    There's a small book that nobody seems to have read: “Swiss Democracy” by a British politician, Kenrick Jones, that compares centralized British Democracy with the decentralized Swiss model. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Swiss-Democracy-Kenrick-Jones-ebook/dp/B00654COIG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483021426&sr=8-1&keywords=swiss+democracy%2C+jones

    Miro23, thanks.

    “It’s much more difficult for example, for AIPAC, the Military Industrial Complex or the Healthcare Lobby to corrupt a system where most tax is raised and spent locally (local decision making and responsibility).”

    Exactly. Many Americans, I think, are led to believe our current Federal government executes national policies, as though arrived at by some rational and transparent political calculus. The “rational” part exists, but it’s the rationality of the brokered deal in a high-end DC restaurant.

    I’m not sure devolution or “secessionism” are great ideas, but I do believe a debate on the rationale for a new constitutional convention will give us some better ideas on how we wish to be governed.

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  160. Rudel says:
    @a German-
    Don't now which germany the author means, mine is different.

    The Truck did no more harm than a similar traffic jam at Stauende on a foggy Autobahn.
    The reaction I see about the "attac" is "thank you Merkel". Nobody is in anger, anybody expected things like this. It's nothing.

    Even the rapes are at a far lower level than expected. When so much young mans came from underdeveloped countries it's unavoidable. We absorbed them, feed them and closed the EU borders. This will not happen again and we know exactly the grandmasters who initiated this.

    Everywhere people coming together and discuss seriously what to do. Everywhere is security now and the infrastructure is more save than ever.

    Germany has a vast experience of wartime and what it means to be at war (and of allied mass murdering too) . All important supplies are redundant and the people? Shure they are blind obeyer to government. But more shure we will switch to Russia faster then your Masters will say "We came, we saw, he died".

    Excellent satire. Almost a believable portrayal of the typical cucked German xenophiliac. Kudos. The power of brainwashing is remarkable, isn’t it?

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  161. Rudel says:
    @Linh Dinh
    Russia Today, 12/27/16:

    Refugee suspects surrender to police after homeless man set on fire in Berlin

    The suspects accused of setting a homeless person on fire in the Berlin underground have been identified as refugees from Syria and Libya, police confirmed. Six of them surrendered to police, while the seventh was arrested in a police operation.

    “Six suspects turned themselves in at various police stations [Monday] evening, [and] another suspect was arrested last night by undercover investigators,” an official police release said.

    The seven young men allegedly set a homeless person on fire as he slept at the Berlin Schonleinstrasse station overnight into Christmas Day on Sunday, police say.

    The attackers fled the scene, but the victim survived without any injuries after passersby helped to extinguish the flames.

    Following the incident, police released images of the perpetrators, asking locals to help identify them. Law enforcement officials qualified the incident as an “attempted murder,” and announced that an investigation was underway.

    Police have now been able to establish the identities of all of the suspects, and have stated the men are all refugees aged between 15 and 21.

    "The seven suspects are all young men between 15 and 21 years of age,” Thomas Neuendorf, deputy head of the Berlin police press office, told Ruptly video agency.

    “Six of the suspects were born in Syria and one of the suspects was born in Libya. All of the suspects have refugee status here [Germany]," the official said.

    [...]
     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a33V74tuBqY

    This report is obvious Russian fake news, simply saturated with xenophobia, racism, Islamophobia, and nativism. Clearly, this privileged white man made some racist remark to these innocent refugees, who had no choice but to respond as they did. If only white Europeans could work harder on unpacking their invisible knapsacks, and being more tolerant, this sort of unfortunate incident would never occur. They need to remember the 6 million, too, of course. That’s very important.

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  162. Rudel says:
    @Santoculto
    Your soberb intelligence is philosemite/blindsemite too?? "greens" or "leftists" are euphemisms when people confuse the army of zombies with their mental owners. The leftist elite is fundamentally Jewish. Their body of idiots are predominantly goym.

    Every unwise idiot walking into the earth surface is a business to the deception.

    That’s very “antisemitic” of you. Remember the 6 billion!

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    Really? I must admit I found it impenetrable and incomprehensible.
    Utterly opaque. Almost mystical.
    [disclaimer; I am quite ridiculously English, and consequently have much to learn, in the brave new empire of Wor Inglische Tounge].
    , @Santoculto
    Oh sorry for that!!1

    My best feelings to this brave souls!!! Never happen again!1
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  163. Rudel says:
    @Skeptikal
    "So, how would US education change if schools were paid for out of local taxation and managed locally? "

    I believe schools in the USA are primarily funded from local taxation, i.e., property taxes, and and managed locally by school committees. They may get various state and federal grants, but I am quite sure they are funded locally. That is one reason quality is so incredibly uneven in our public schools. Taht is the reason that people move to communities they cannot really afford: so that their children can go to superior schools. States do weigh in with textbook and curriculum suggestions, however (I think). Also, states mandate standardized tests.

    “I am quite sure they are funded locally. That is one reason quality is so incredibly uneven in our public schools.”

    Excellent explanation. For a moment I thought that you were going to go into obviously-irrelevant demographic explanations. Always remember that the slate is blank, and you’ll never go wrong.

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  164. @Rudel
    That's very "antisemitic" of you. Remember the 6 billion!

    Really? I must admit I found it impenetrable and incomprehensible.
    Utterly opaque. Almost mystical.
    [disclaimer; I am quite ridiculously English, and consequently have much to learn, in the brave new empire of Wor Inglische Tounge].

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  165. dfordoom says: • Website
    @jacques sheete

    1) The left is trying to shoehorn the terrorist attacks of the last couple of years into an outdated ‘The West is responsible no matter what” ideological framework .
     
    Let's stick to facts (as you recommended to me).

    Fact 1. Blaming “leftists” for attempting “to shoehorn the terrorist attacks of the last couple of years into an outdated ‘The West is responsible no matter what’ ideological framework” is, itself, oversimplifying matters to an astonishing degree.

    Fact 2. Speaking of things “outdated," the left/right dichotomy is not only outdated and beyond useless, but to call it oversimplified would be to give the concept credit which it hasn't deserved for decades.

    Happy New year!

    Speaking of things “outdated,” the left/right dichotomy is not only outdated and beyond useless, but to call it oversimplified would be to give the concept credit which it hasn’t deserved for decades.

    Very true but it seems to be impossible to get most people to understand this.

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    Left and right are largely self-identified and the labels are more indicative of affinity than ideology. "Leftists" and "rightists" in politics are largely fools or crooks, but their followers are often sincere and many can even be intelligent.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    Even our resident Mensa member (of 40 plus years) hasn't been able to grasp it yet so what chance do mere mortals have?

    Gore Vidal famously said (and I heard him say it) There's only one political party in America, it's the money party and it has two branches. Gary Allen long ago said in None Dare Call it Conspiracy that left and right at the extremes come together like the ends of a belt come together and function the same way.
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  166. chris124 says:

    “Well, they couldn’t avoid trouble back then, and they won’t avoid trouble now. Even more bizarrely, Germans are so brainwashed and scared that this mindset will harden even more. I see it in discussions with people. With fervor, they cling to their beliefs. We will have multiculturalism at any cost because nationalism is bad!”

    Well what do you expect when one pole of the political dimension is illegal while the other pole isn’t?

    It is illegal to be a Nazi in Germany (far far far right) but not illegal to be a rabid multiculturalist (far far far left).

    If it was illegal to be far far far left but not far far far right, then you would see people position further and further to the non-illegal pole.

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  167. When studying german publications such as “Spiegel”, ” Frankfurter Allgemeine”, Die Zeit”, Die Welt”, etc, one can easily assume the impression that the Germans somehow think that they are now the world leaders or rulers, and that they set standards for international social issues and standards, as reflected in their endless diatribes for example regarding the US election system : “The USA must finally reform their electoral system and eliminate the electoral college so as to conform with the “democratic” German system”, and “the USA must alter their second amendment so as to finally eliminate private gun ownership in order to conform with the german concept of no guns in private hands.
    They rail on and on about the US “Racist” police, and how they apparently go to work daily with the intention of killing innocent black people.
    This is an huge subject, which can best be simplified with one expression : “Deutsche Besserwisserei” : the infamous German know-it-all mindset, also reflected in AM’s refugee program, and which is legion throughout Europe and is cause for tremendous dislike of their national mentality.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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    A number of years ago, not so many I seem to recall, the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) conducted an international popularity poll as to which countries were the most liked, and disliked, in the world.

    Would you care to opine as to which country was at or near the top of the list and which was at or near the bottom ie. most disliked?

    I'll save your Mensa brain from straining to dig this out: Germany was at the top ie. most liked, and Israel was at or near the bottom, ie. most disliked.

    One might conclude that the anti-German Anglo-Zionist propaganda only goes so far and is seriously discounted in the non-Anglophone world.

    Maybe your view is a little skewed since you had to go through 3 German women?

    Myself I am on my second Scottish wife (I was widowed a number of years ago) and I really lucked out with both of them. Perhaps the character of the husband has a little to do with this?

    I do agree though that present day Germany is a judicial and political cess pool, brought about by the allies proscribing the form of government and the acceptance without scrutiny the rulings of the war crimes commissions. This was put into the Basic Law of Germany back in the '50's when Germany was given authority to more or less rule itself. HdC

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  168. HdC says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    When studying german publications such as "Spiegel", " Frankfurter Allgemeine", Die Zeit", Die Welt", etc, one can easily assume the impression that the Germans somehow think that they are now the world leaders or rulers, and that they set standards for international social issues and standards, as reflected in their endless diatribes for example regarding the US election system : "The USA must finally reform their electoral system and eliminate the electoral college so as to conform with the "democratic" German system", and "the USA must alter their second amendment so as to finally eliminate private gun ownership in order to conform with the german concept of no guns in private hands.
    They rail on and on about the US "Racist" police, and how they apparently go to work daily with the intention of killing innocent black people.
    This is an huge subject, which can best be simplified with one expression : "Deutsche Besserwisserei" : the infamous German know-it-all mindset, also reflected in AM's refugee program, and which is legion throughout Europe and is cause for tremendous dislike of their national mentality.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

    A number of years ago, not so many I seem to recall, the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) conducted an international popularity poll as to which countries were the most liked, and disliked, in the world.

    Would you care to opine as to which country was at or near the top of the list and which was at or near the bottom ie. most disliked?

    I’ll save your Mensa brain from straining to dig this out: Germany was at the top ie. most liked, and Israel was at or near the bottom, ie. most disliked.

    One might conclude that the anti-German Anglo-Zionist propaganda only goes so far and is seriously discounted in the non-Anglophone world.

    Maybe your view is a little skewed since you had to go through 3 German women?

    Myself I am on my second Scottish wife (I was widowed a number of years ago) and I really lucked out with both of them. Perhaps the character of the husband has a little to do with this?

    I do agree though that present day Germany is a judicial and political cess pool, brought about by the allies proscribing the form of government and the acceptance without scrutiny the rulings of the war crimes commissions. This was put into the Basic Law of Germany back in the ’50′s when Germany was given authority to more or less rule itself. HdC

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    Besserwisserei is certainly a part of the German personality, or psyche.
    But just a part. Earnestness is another aspect of the "typical" German psyche.
    There is also a genuine drive not just to be right, but to do the right thing.

    Americans, too, have to their own version of telling the rest of the world to remake itself in the USA's image. Of course, they make their point with bombs, military interventions, coups against constitutionally elected leaders, arming "rebels," etc. etc. The people themselves may have less of a "know-it-all" attitude than the Germans, but then the Americans are pretty "know-nothing" regarding the "know-it-alls" who act in their name.

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  169. Yeah sure like leftist BBC is a credible source of information.

    Germany is “liked” because of it’s leftist stance and it’s welfare distribution to “Refugees”

    Their, BBC’s, polls are all, without exception, pure leftist nonsense.

    ” Perhaps the character of the husband has a little to do with this” :

    Typical leftist tactic : No valid argument then personally attack the opposing party.

    My posting had addressed the “Know-it-all” German mentality,and the megalomania of the german media, of which you obviously have no clue.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” Society member since 1973, and pro jazz artist.

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    If you believe that I am a "leftist" then your Mensa brain is seriously failing you.

    The German media prints/broadcasts lies just well as practically all other mass media does. Agreed though that the German media is particularly anti-Germanic in that respect.

    Since Britain and its BBC remain as Germanophobic as ever, I am inclined to give some credence to a story that has something positive to say about Germany. HdC
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  170. HdC says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    Yeah sure like leftist BBC is a credible source of information.

    Germany is "liked" because of it's leftist stance and it's welfare distribution to "Refugees"

    Their, BBC's, polls are all, without exception, pure leftist nonsense.

    " Perhaps the character of the husband has a little to do with this" :

    Typical leftist tactic : No valid argument then personally attack the opposing party.

    My posting had addressed the "Know-it-all" German mentality,and the megalomania of the german media, of which you obviously have no clue.

    Authenticjazzman, "Mensa" Society member since 1973, and pro jazz artist.

    If you believe that I am a “leftist” then your Mensa brain is seriously failing you.

    The German media prints/broadcasts lies just well as practically all other mass media does. Agreed though that the German media is particularly anti-Germanic in that respect.

    Since Britain and its BBC remain as Germanophobic as ever, I am inclined to give some credence to a story that has something positive to say about Germany. HdC

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    Well, I am not so sure.

    As you were implying, the people who work for the slimestream media are all liars (in ordinary societies, they would be working as toilet-cleaners) - so I remain a little sceptical.
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  171. Skeptikal says:
    @HdC
    A number of years ago, not so many I seem to recall, the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) conducted an international popularity poll as to which countries were the most liked, and disliked, in the world.

    Would you care to opine as to which country was at or near the top of the list and which was at or near the bottom ie. most disliked?

    I'll save your Mensa brain from straining to dig this out: Germany was at the top ie. most liked, and Israel was at or near the bottom, ie. most disliked.

    One might conclude that the anti-German Anglo-Zionist propaganda only goes so far and is seriously discounted in the non-Anglophone world.

    Maybe your view is a little skewed since you had to go through 3 German women?

    Myself I am on my second Scottish wife (I was widowed a number of years ago) and I really lucked out with both of them. Perhaps the character of the husband has a little to do with this?

    I do agree though that present day Germany is a judicial and political cess pool, brought about by the allies proscribing the form of government and the acceptance without scrutiny the rulings of the war crimes commissions. This was put into the Basic Law of Germany back in the '50's when Germany was given authority to more or less rule itself. HdC

    Besserwisserei is certainly a part of the German personality, or psyche.
    But just a part. Earnestness is another aspect of the “typical” German psyche.
    There is also a genuine drive not just to be right, but to do the right thing.

    Americans, too, have to their own version of telling the rest of the world to remake itself in the USA’s image. Of course, they make their point with bombs, military interventions, coups against constitutionally elected leaders, arming “rebels,” etc. etc. The people themselves may have less of a “know-it-all” attitude than the Germans, but then the Americans are pretty “know-nothing” regarding the “know-it-alls” who act in their name.

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  172. Dumbo says:
    @a German-
    Don't now which germany the author means, mine is different.

    The Truck did no more harm than a similar traffic jam at Stauende on a foggy Autobahn.
    The reaction I see about the "attac" is "thank you Merkel". Nobody is in anger, anybody expected things like this. It's nothing.

    Even the rapes are at a far lower level than expected. When so much young mans came from underdeveloped countries it's unavoidable. We absorbed them, feed them and closed the EU borders. This will not happen again and we know exactly the grandmasters who initiated this.

    Everywhere people coming together and discuss seriously what to do. Everywhere is security now and the infrastructure is more save than ever.

    Germany has a vast experience of wartime and what it means to be at war (and of allied mass murdering too) . All important supplies are redundant and the people? Shure they are blind obeyer to government. But more shure we will switch to Russia faster then your Masters will say "We came, we saw, he died".

    “Even the rapes are at a far lower level than expected. ”

    That is great. I mean, what is a little rape of your women by foreigners now and then. Let’s clothe and feed the rapists, by all means. They may even help to increase the birth rate of German women.

    Maybe Germany should change its name to Cuckenland?

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  173. @Rudel
    That's very "antisemitic" of you. Remember the 6 billion!

    Oh sorry for that!!1

    My best feelings to this brave souls!!! Never happen again!1

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  174. Where is the alt-reich’ers when we need them!1*

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  175. To really gain insight into the german mind-set of worshiping authority, one need only to consider their horrendous 1984 big brother “Meldegesetz” a law requiring every inhabitant to report to the local “Meldeamt” ( police registration office) their new address upon moving to a different dwelling.
    This law being a left-over from the era of rule by nobility ( Fürstenzeiten ).
    Just the idea of being required to report ones address to to the area police authority reeks of police-state mentality and the strange aspect of this tremendous infringement upon personal privacy is that Germans as a whole actually think that it is good law regardless of the police-state implications, which they simply do not grasp.

    Authenticjazzman, “Mensa” society member of forty-plus years and pro jazz artist.

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  176. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @dfordoom

    Speaking of things “outdated,” the left/right dichotomy is not only outdated and beyond useless, but to call it oversimplified would be to give the concept credit which it hasn’t deserved for decades.
     
    Very true but it seems to be impossible to get most people to understand this.

    Left and right are largely self-identified and the labels are more indicative of affinity than ideology. “Leftists” and “rightists” in politics are largely fools or crooks, but their followers are often sincere and many can even be intelligent.

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  177. @dfordoom

    Speaking of things “outdated,” the left/right dichotomy is not only outdated and beyond useless, but to call it oversimplified would be to give the concept credit which it hasn’t deserved for decades.
     
    Very true but it seems to be impossible to get most people to understand this.

    Even our resident Mensa member (of 40 plus years) hasn’t been able to grasp it yet so what chance do mere mortals have?

    Gore Vidal famously said (and I heard him say it) There’s only one political party in America, it’s the money party and it has two branches. Gary Allen long ago said in None Dare Call it Conspiracy that left and right at the extremes come together like the ends of a belt come together and function the same way.

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  178. […] Deutschland on the Eve of 2017 vyšel 26. prosince 2016 na unz.com. Překlad čtenář Zvědavce – děkuji. […]

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  179. Quern says:
    @polistra
    I'd only argue one point.

    quoting: ABOVE ALL THINGS, a new Third Reich has to be prevented! So all aspects of nationalism or even patriotism are bad, because patriotism can lead to chauvinism, which leads to Fascism, which leads to Auschwitz, and Auschwitz must never happen again! end quote

    Good analysis of the chain of association. In fact nationalism didn't cause WW2; German imperialism caused WW2, just as German imperialism caused WW1 without any Nazi connections at all.

    The EU used this chain to justify the NEW German imperialism, via EU mechanisms. This German imperialism is the same as the previous two editions. It uses the same economic blackmail to subdue the rest of Europe and Russia, followed by military action (via NATO) when the blackmail fails to subdue a country. This may explain why Germans have been contented with the new arrangement for so long. It's comfortable.

    Sorry, but, er, no.

    WW One was caused by the inability of our neighbors France and Britain, to leave us alone. Just like again and again, it was mainly a French aggression against Germany, as had been the normal cause of Events since 1552.

    Britain, OTOH, was afraid of economic competition. I could go on.

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  180. Quern says:
    @Mario64
    Worshipping Authority

    The real issue at stake is the attitude of the governed toward the rulers. We are used to think that the rulers need the consent of the ruled in order to staying in power and to achieve this goal the most effective tool used by the rulers is “manufacturing consent”. But manufacturing consent in order to be effective needs what Étienne de La Boétie in his “Discours de la servitude volontaire” (Discourse on Voluntary Servitude) defines as the “… secret de toute domination: faire participer les dominés à leur domination” (…the secret of all domination: to make the dominated participate to their domination). The maximum degree of achievement of this goal by the rulers is attained when the relation approval-of-the-rulers-by-the-ruled is inverted which happens when the ruled go as far as to long for the approval by the rulers, just like it happens in a primary school where the pupils long for the approval of their teacher, a situation that is masterfully described by Kafka in “Das Schloss”.

    Just have a look at the style of the articles of Der Spiegel Online International, it looks like a primary school teacher explaining matters to 5th graders, and its manufacturing consent exceeds even the BBC’, which is quite notorious as top champion in the field of news cooking and manipulation.

    Moreover it tells a lot that Merkel is called “Mutti” (mother) which means that Germans love having a ruler that is like a mother that takes care of her children.

    The fact is that their attitude in front of authority didn’t change, their worship of authority is the same they had for Generalfeldmarschall Paul von Hindenburg, for The Führer Hitler and now for Angela Merkel, regardless of the fact that such rulers led their devotees to utter ruin like the “Rattenfänger von Hameln” (Pied Piper of Hamelin) did.

    Ha ha ha.

    Been watching too many Hollyweird movies on the subject? Or reading the glorious works on my Fatherland written by supremely competent historians in the notorious Anglo-Saxon “scholarly tradition”?

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  181. Quern says:
    @a German-
    Don't now which germany the author means, mine is different.

    The Truck did no more harm than a similar traffic jam at Stauende on a foggy Autobahn.
    The reaction I see about the "attac" is "thank you Merkel". Nobody is in anger, anybody expected things like this. It's nothing.

    Even the rapes are at a far lower level than expected. When so much young mans came from underdeveloped countries it's unavoidable. We absorbed them, feed them and closed the EU borders. This will not happen again and we know exactly the grandmasters who initiated this.

    Everywhere people coming together and discuss seriously what to do. Everywhere is security now and the infrastructure is more save than ever.

    Germany has a vast experience of wartime and what it means to be at war (and of allied mass murdering too) . All important supplies are redundant and the people? Shure they are blind obeyer to government. But more shure we will switch to Russia faster then your Masters will say "We came, we saw, he died".

    @ “a German”

    Why have you been impersonating me? I must say!

    All you have written is wrong, and you indeed must be a satirist, in which case you are to be commended, or you might possibly be serious, in which case you are to be pitied. :lol:

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  182. Quern says:
    @jacques sheete

    ...regardless of the fact that such rulers led their devotees to utter ruin
     
    Is that really a fact or would it be more accurate to say that those rulers tried to lead while the Germans were being ruined?

    I can imagine how tough it is to lead folks while they're being incessantly undermined by powerful outside forces. It seems to be one of the curses of being a particularly brilliant and constructive people who generally just want to be left alone but are surrounded by those of ill intent.

    Hello, now there I am under a new Name (formerly “a German).

    Thank you, Sir, You nailed it. :-)

    To many of us, the Americans are the one people most submissive to their powers that be. That theory has something going for it, if you listen to the nonsense spouted by the likes of Mario64 and the Authentic Jazzman. It is downright frightening.

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  183. Quern says:
    @HdC
    If you believe that I am a "leftist" then your Mensa brain is seriously failing you.

    The German media prints/broadcasts lies just well as practically all other mass media does. Agreed though that the German media is particularly anti-Germanic in that respect.

    Since Britain and its BBC remain as Germanophobic as ever, I am inclined to give some credence to a story that has something positive to say about Germany. HdC

    Well, I am not so sure.

    As you were implying, the people who work for the slimestream media are all liars (in ordinary societies, they would be working as toilet-cleaners) – so I remain a little sceptical.

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