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A hundred-and-fifty-one years after the abolition of slavery, America has a half white, half black president, a black Nobelist in literature, whites who attribute not just every form but instance of black dysfunction to white racism, blacks who demand reparations, the mainstreaming of innumerable black slang terms, including “diss,” a new phrase “negro fatigue” and the bumper sticker, “IF I HAD KNOWN THIS, I’D HAVE PICKED MY OWN COTTON.”

It has often been stated that slavery is America’s original sin. In 1751, Benjamin Franklin ruminated on its cons and pros:

The Labour of Slaves can never be so cheap here as the Labour of working Men is in Britain. Any one may compute it. Interest of Money is in the Colonies from 6 to 10 per Cent. Slaves one with another cost 30 £. Sterling per Head. Reckon then the Interest of the first Purchase of a Slave, the Insurance or Risque on his Life, his Cloathing and Diet, Expences in his Sickness and Loss of Time, Loss by his Neglect of Business (Neglect is natural to the Man who is not to be benefited by his own Care or Diligence), Expence of a Driver to keep him at Work, and his Pilfering from Time to Time, almost every Slave being by Nature a Thief, and compare the whole Amount with the Wages of a Manufacturer of Iron or Wool in England, you will see that Labour is much cheaper there than it ever can be by Negroes here. Why then will Americans purchase Slaves? Because Slaves may be kept as long as a Man pleases, or has Occasion for their Labour; while hired Men are continually leaving their Master (often in the midst of his Business,) and setting up for themselves.

There are also these drawbacks:

The Negroes brought into the English Sugar Islands, have greatly diminish’d the Whites there; the Poor are by this Means depriv’d of Employment, while a few Families acquire vast Estates; which they spend on Foreign Luxuries, and educating their Children in the Habit of those Luxuries; tile same Income is needed for the Support of one that might have maintain’d 100. The Whites who have Slaves, not labouring, are enfeebled, and therefore not so generally prolific; the Slaves being work’d too hard, and ill fed, their Constitutions are broken, and the Deaths among them are more than the Births; so that a continual Supply is needed from Africa. The Northern Colonies having few Slaves increase in Whites. Slaves also pejorate the Families that use them; the white Children become proud, disgusted with Labour, and being educated in Idleness, are rendered unfit to get a Living by Industry.

Still, it was worth it, and that’s why Franklin kept several slaves himself. In 1759, however, he joined Thomas Bray’s association to support schools for black children, and in 1787, Franklin became president of the Pennsylvania Society for Promoting the Abolition of Slavery and the Relief of Free Negroes Unlawfully Held in Bondage. Franklin died, then, with the hope that blacks would one day be free and equal to whites.

After blacks were freed, they had to compete with poor whites and white immigrants for work. Illiterate, ignorant and dependent after centuries of slavery, American blacks were even worse off than blacks from the West Indies. In Ethnic America, Thomas Sowell explains:

Unlike slaves in the United States, who were issued food rations and were often fed from the common kitchen, West Indian slaves were assigned land and time to raise their own food. They sold surplus food in the market to buy amenities for themselves. In short, West Indian Negroes had centuries of experience in taking care of themselves in a significant part of their lives, even under slavery, as well as experience with buying and selling. Contemporary observers noted that the slaves in the West Indies worked perceptibly more energetically on their plots of ground than on the land they worked for slave owners. They had the kind of incentives and experience common in a market economy but denied American slaves for two centuries.

In 1873, James Shepherd Pike of the New York Tribune wrote an influential series of articles that was later turned into a book, The Prostrate State: South Carolina under Negro Government. While pointing out that the black man “showed great magnanimity and forbearance in not cutting the throats of the masters’ families when he was emancipated,” Pike painted black-run South Carolina as “the most ignorant democracy that mankind ever saw”:

It is barbarism overwhelming civilization by physical force. It is the slave rioting in the halls of his master, and putting that master under his feet.

[…]

The question is often asked if education is not the remedy for the blackness of darkness that prevails in South Carolina. Yes, indeed, if that were possible […] here is a race to be educated in the very elements of manhood. They have to be taught positively and negatively […] They have to be taught not to lie, not to steal, not to be unchaste […] Education, to be what it ought to be with the existing race of negroes in the South, means to educate them out of themselves, means to undo the habits and practices and modes of thoughts and want of thought engendered by centuries of slavery.

In 1888, Walt Whitman didn’t sound any more optimistic:

The nigger, like the Injun, will be eliminated: it is the law of races, history, what-not: always so far inexorable—always to be. Someone proves that a superior grade of rats comes and then all the minor rats are cleared out.

Booker T. Washington, though, certainly believed the black man had a future and, moreover, was a huge asset to the nation. In 1895, Washington appealed to Southern whites to rely on blacks rather than European immigrants:

To those of the white race who look to the incoming of those of foreign birth and strange tongue and habits for the prosperity of the South, were I permitted I would repeat what I say to my own race, ‘Cast down your bucket where you are.’ Cast it down among the eight millions of Negroes whose habits you know, whose fidelity and love you have tested in days when to have proved treacherous meant the ruin of your firesides. Cast down your bucket among these people who have, without strikes and labour wars, tilled your fields, cleared your forests, builded your railroads and cities, and brought forth treasures from the bowels of the earth, and helped make possible this magnificent representation of the progress of the South. Casting down your bucket among my people, helping and encouraging them as you are doing on these grounds, and to education of head, hand, and heart, you will find that they will buy your surplus land, make blossom the waste places in your fields, and run your factories. While doing this, you can be sure in the future, as in the past, that you and your families will be surrounded by the most patient, faithful, law-abiding, and unresentful people that the world has seen. As we have proved our loyalty to you in the past, in nursing your children, watching by the sick-bed of your mothers and fathers, and often following them with tear-dimmed eyes to their graves, so in the future, in our humble way, we shall stand by you with a devotion that no foreigner can approach, ready to lay down our lives, if need be, in defense of yours, interlacing our industrial, commercial, civil, and religious life with yours in a way that shall make the interests of both races one.”

In his 1899 book, The Philadelphia Negroes, W.E.B. DuBois observed:

In the city of Philadelphia the increasing number of bold and daring crimes committed by Negroes in the last tenyears has focused the attention of the city on this subject. There is a widespread feeling that something is wrong with a race that is responsible for so much crime, and that strong remedies are called for.

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4 per cent of the population of Philadelphia having Negro blood furnished from 1885 to 1889, 14 per cent of the serious crimes, and from 1890 to 1895, 22 1/2 per cent.

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we may conclude that young men arethe perpetrators of the serious crime among Negroes; that this crime consists mainly of stealing and assault; that ignorance, and immigration to the temptations of city life, are responsible for much of this crime but not for all; that deep social causes underlie this prevalence of crime and they have so worked as to form among Negroes since 1864 a distinct class of habitual criminals; that to this criminal class and not to the great mass of Negroes the bulk of theserious crime perpetrated by this race should be charged.

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His strange social environment must have immense effect on his thought and life, his work and crime, his wealth and pauperism. That this environment differs and differs broadly from the environment of his fellows, we all know, but we do not know just how it differs. The real foundation of the difference is the wide-spread feeling all over the land, in Philadelphia as well as in Boston and New Orleans, that the Negro is something less than an American and ought not to be much more than what he is. Argue as we may for or against this idea, we must as students recognize its presence and its vast effects.

I dug up some old observations so we can see how far, or how little, we’ve gone as a nation. During the decade ending in 1895, Philadelphia had nine murders. Nine in ten years!

With just 50% more people, Philly already has 135 murders this year as of July 14th. Making up 43.3% of its population (according to the 2010 census), blacks commit more than 80% of Philly’s murders, year in and year out. What would DuBois make of this outrage?

Booker T. Washington hoped for “a new heaven and a new earth” predicated on “material prosperity” and “a blotting out of sectional differences and racial animosities and suspicions, in a determination to administer absolute justice, in a willing obedience among all classes to the mandates of law.”

I don’t see it coming. After a week of black attacks against the police in Texas, Tennessee, Minnesota, Missouri, Indiana and WashingtonDC, there will be Day of Rage protests in 37 American cities today, in support of Black Lives Matter, and next week, dozens of gun-toting New Black Panthers will descend on Cleveland to raise hell at the Republican National Convention.

To close, I will quote at length from a July 9th FaceBook post by Jay Stalien, a Baltimore cop:

I have come to realize something that is still hard for me to understand to this day. The following may be a shock to some coming from an African American, but the mere fact that it may be shocking to some is prima facie evidence of the sad state of affairs that we are in as Humans.

I used to be so torn inside growing up. Here I am, a young African-American born and raised in Brooklyn, NY wanting to be a cop. I watched and lived through the crime that took place in the hood. My own black people killing others over nothing. Crack heads and heroin addicts lined the lobby of my building as I shuffled around them to make my way to our 1 bedroom apartment with 6 of us living inside. I used to be woken up in the middle of the night by the sound of gun fire, only to look outside and see that it was 2 African Americans shooting at each other.

It never sat right with me. I wanted to help my community and stop watching the blood of African Americans spilled on the street at the hands of a fellow black man. I became a cop because black lives in my community, along with ALL lives, mattered to me, and wanted to help stop the bloodshed.

As time went by in my law enforcement career, I quickly began to realize something. I remember the countless times I stood 2 inches from a young black man, around my age, laying on his back, gasping for air as blood filled his lungs. I remember them bleeding profusely with the unforgettable smell of deoxygenated dark red blood in the air, as it leaked from the bullet holes in his body on to the hot sidewalk on a summer day. I remember the countless family members who attacked me, spit on me, cursed me out, as I put up crime scene tape to cordon off the crime scene, yelling and screaming out of pain and anger at the sight of their loved ones taking their last breath. I never took it personally, I knew they were hurting. I remember the countless times I had to order new uniforms, because the ones I had on, were bloody from the blood of another black victim…of black on black crime. I remember the countless times I got back in my patrol car, distraught after having watched another black male die in front me, having to start my preliminary report something like this:
Suspect- Black/ Male, Victim-Black /Male.

I remember the countless times I canvassed the area afterwards, and asked everyone “did you see who did it”, and the popular response from the very same family members was always, “Fuck the Police, I ain’t no snitch, Im gonna take care of this myself”. This happened every single time, every single homicide, black on black, and then my realization became clearer.

ORDER IT NOW

I woke up every morning, put my freshly pressed uniform on, shined my badge, functioned checked my weapon, kissed my wife and kid, and waited for my wife to say the same thing she always does before I leave, “Make sure you come back home to us”. I always replied, “I will”, but the truth was I was never sure if I would. I almost lost my life on this job, and every call, every stop, every moment that I had this uniform on, was another possibility for me to almost lose my life again. I was a target in the very community I swore to protect, the very community I wanted to help. As a matter of fact, they hated my very presence. They called me “Uncle Tom”, and “wanna be white boy”, and I couldn’t understand why. My own fellow black men and women attacking me, wishing for my death, wishing for the death of my family. I was so confused, so torn, I couldn’t understand why my own black people would turn against me, when every time they called …I was there. Every time someone died….I was there. Every time they were going through one of the worst moments in their lives…I was there. So why was I the enemy? I dove deep into that question…Why was I the enemy? Then my realization became clearer.

I spoke to members of the community and listened to some of the complaints as to why they hated cops. I then did research on the facts. I also presented facts to these members of the community, and listened to their complaints in response. This is what I learned:

Complaint: Police always targeting us, they always messing with the black man.

Fact: A city where the majority of citizens are black (Baltimore for example) …will ALWAYS have a higher rate of black people getting arrested, it will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks getting stopped, and will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks getting killed, and the reason why is because a city with those characteristics will ALWAYS have a higher rate of blacks committing crime. The statistics will follow the same trend for Asians if you go to China, for Hispanics if you go to Puerto Rico, for whites if you go to Russia, and the list goes on. It’s called Demographics

Complaint: More black people get arrested than white boys.

Fact: Black People commit a grossly disproportionate amount of crime. Data from the FBI shows that Nationwide, Blacks committed 5,173 homicides in 2014, whites committed 4,367. Chicago’s death toll is almost equal to that of both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, combined. Chicago’s death toll from 2001–November, 26 2015 stands at 7,401. The combined total deaths during Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003-2015: 4,815) and Operation Enduring Freedom/Afghanistan (2001-2015: 3,506), total 8,321.

Complaint: Blacks are the only ones getting killed by police, or they are killed more.

Fact: As of July 2016, the breakdown of the number of US Citizens killed by Police this year is, 238 White people killed, 123 Black people killed, 79 Hispanics, 69 other/or unknown race.

Fact: Black people kill more other blacks than Police do, and there are only protest and outrage when a cop kills a black man. University of Toledo criminologist Dr. Richard R. Johnson examined the latest crime data from the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports and Centers for Disease Control and found that an average of 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012. Professor Johnson’s research further concluded that 112 black men died from both justified and unjustified police-involved killings annually during this same period.

Complaint: Well we already doing a good job of killing ourselves, we don’t need the Police to do it. Besides they should know better.

Linh Dinh is the author of two books of stories, five of poems, and a novel, Love Like Hate. He’s tracking our deteriorating socialscape through his frequently updated photo blog, Postcards from the End of America.

 
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  1. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    “It has often been stated that slavery is America’s original sin.”

    I guess ‘genocide’ of American Indians doesn’t count.

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    • Replies: @Quartermaster
    No, it doesn't. The Brits were importing slaves almost from the beginning, long before the Indian wars.
    , @Bragadocious
    The Brits murdered more Hindus in one winter (1943-44) than Americans murdered Native Americans in 100 years.
    , @Colleen Pater
    First there are more indians in the us now than at any time since whites began settling. next The indians fought hard and it was touch and go for several hundred years finally we had enough and had the numbers and attempted to put them on reservations by force. since i can tell youre a sissy lefty explain why it would bother you that whites are anti immigrant but it was ok for indians to be.
    If you were from out west you would know indian romanticizing is really stupid they make niggers look civilized
    , @Che Guava
    It always amuses me (in the blackest of humour way) how all of these abolitionists, mainly white, cared so much for the nigra, but did not give a shit for the American Indians, at the time being massively invaded on territories they were supposed to own by treaty.

    It also puzzles me. Brown and his clan were as involved in the invasion as the pro-slavery types he wanted to wipe out.

    Why, if they were so 'caring', did they not care about the American Indians?

    I study history when I have the time, from my reading, numerous tribes sided with the Confederacy, none with the Union.
    , @Wally
    So then, American Indians were 'xenophobic / racist' for resisting European migrants.

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let's us know who the prime owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    see:
    Suppressing Jewry's Role in Slavery / Familiar Tactics
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7909
    and:
    Dr. Tony Martin - The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7I75Q_-zA

    , @The Plutonium Kid
    Slavery is humanity's original sin. It has existed since prehistory, but only whites are held to be evil for having practiced it.
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  2. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    History, history, history.

    It doesn’t matter.

    If all those blacks had been brought to America as free men, we’d have the same problem.

    It’s biology, not history.

    Blacks mess things up here, blacks mess things up in Jamaica and Haiti, blacks mess things up in Africa, blacks mess things up in Europe.

    Sure, some higher IQ Nigerian immigrants do better in the West, but that’s cream of the crop. Most Nigerians in Nigeria turned that nation into a hellhole.

    And look where South Africa is going. And before anyone blames Apartheid, look at black African nations that had no apartheid. They ended up worse.

    Blacks are stronger, more aggressive, more volatile, more pathological, less introspective, less self-critical, and etc.
    Evolution made them that way because they lived in hunter-warrior societies where badass mofo traits were most favored.

    If Americans had brought Vietnamese like Dinh as slaves, things would have turned out very differently.
    Yes, Vietnamese-American descendants of slaves would have bitter narrative and harbor some anger, but they would pose no threat since Vietnamese are scrawny geeks. They would threaten or scare no one. There never would have been a Vietnamese Jack Johnson or Muhammad Ali or OJ Simpson. There wouldn’t be jungalo fever. And even if there had been a Vietnamese Civil Rights Leader, he wouldn’t be an object of cult worship since Vietnamese don’t have boom box voices that have a magical voodoo effect on white folks… indeed as if they are hearing the voice of god hisself.

    Vietnamese were fearsome only in Vietnam where they outnumbered the French and Americans by a huge margin. But on a one-on-one basis, a short skinny vietnamese is no threat to a white man. As a minority, they would have posed no threat to white folks no matter how bitter they would have been about their history. Also, as East Asians, Viets have servile genes(like Mexican indigenous mongoid folks) and would have just gotten along with White Power.

    So, the real shame of America wasn’t so much slavery. It was WHOM whites enslaved.
    They made a terrible choice in enslaving a people bigger, tougher, and more aggressive than themselves.

    White people should have enslaved scrawny Vietnamese, not powerful blacks.

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    Owning slaves made the white man weak. A strong white nation doesnt need slaves. They would do the hard physical work themselves. The bible reading southerners should have known that slavery never ends well.
    , @TJM
    Wow, nice racism.

    History does matter, and you need not go back to slavery, but the 1950's when there was a thriving and growing black middle class.

    There have been many working against a strong AMERICAN middle class, and the push for race wars.

    A corrupt Zionist government like America's works much better when there is division than when America is united.
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  3. @Priss Factor
    "It has often been stated that slavery is America’s original sin."

    I guess 'genocide' of American Indians doesn't count.

    No, it doesn’t. The Brits were importing slaves almost from the beginning, long before the Indian wars.

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  4. @Priss Factor
    "It has often been stated that slavery is America’s original sin."

    I guess 'genocide' of American Indians doesn't count.

    The Brits murdered more Hindus in one winter (1943-44) than Americans murdered Native Americans in 100 years.

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    It goes to show dotkins are lousy fighters.
    , @The Plutonium Kid
    Highly doubtful, at best.
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    @Bragadocious
    The Brits murdered more Hindus in one winter (1943-44) than Americans murdered Native Americans in 100 years.

    It goes to show dotkins are lousy fighters.

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    Anonymy/Priss/&c&c&c - I've got to hand it to you: your inventiveness in coming with new racial slurs never ceases to amaze.

    I think "dotkin" is even funnier than "yelloid."
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  6. Tony says:
    @Priss Factor
    History, history, history.

    It doesn't matter.

    If all those blacks had been brought to America as free men, we'd have the same problem.

    It's biology, not history.

    Blacks mess things up here, blacks mess things up in Jamaica and Haiti, blacks mess things up in Africa, blacks mess things up in Europe.

    Sure, some higher IQ Nigerian immigrants do better in the West, but that's cream of the crop. Most Nigerians in Nigeria turned that nation into a hellhole.

    And look where South Africa is going. And before anyone blames Apartheid, look at black African nations that had no apartheid. They ended up worse.

    Blacks are stronger, more aggressive, more volatile, more pathological, less introspective, less self-critical, and etc.
    Evolution made them that way because they lived in hunter-warrior societies where badass mofo traits were most favored.

    If Americans had brought Vietnamese like Dinh as slaves, things would have turned out very differently.
    Yes, Vietnamese-American descendants of slaves would have bitter narrative and harbor some anger, but they would pose no threat since Vietnamese are scrawny geeks. They would threaten or scare no one. There never would have been a Vietnamese Jack Johnson or Muhammad Ali or OJ Simpson. There wouldn't be jungalo fever. And even if there had been a Vietnamese Civil Rights Leader, he wouldn't be an object of cult worship since Vietnamese don't have boom box voices that have a magical voodoo effect on white folks... indeed as if they are hearing the voice of god hisself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COxc4BsV1Y8

    Vietnamese were fearsome only in Vietnam where they outnumbered the French and Americans by a huge margin. But on a one-on-one basis, a short skinny vietnamese is no threat to a white man. As a minority, they would have posed no threat to white folks no matter how bitter they would have been about their history. Also, as East Asians, Viets have servile genes(like Mexican indigenous mongoid folks) and would have just gotten along with White Power.

    So, the real shame of America wasn't so much slavery. It was WHOM whites enslaved.
    They made a terrible choice in enslaving a people bigger, tougher, and more aggressive than themselves.

    White people should have enslaved scrawny Vietnamese, not powerful blacks.

    Owning slaves made the white man weak. A strong white nation doesnt need slaves. They would do the hard physical work themselves. The bible reading southerners should have known that slavery never ends well.

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    Tony, the reason the American colonies began to flourish in the late 17th century was because of the surging exports of rice, indigo, and tobacco. These crops were planted largely in VA and the Carolinas. But it was impossible to get Europeans to move to those climates in large numbers. The climate in the growing season is simply too hot and the backbreaking work of manual labor in temperatures reaching the mid-90s on a daily basis was simply more than a person of Northern European origin was willing to face. Most of the early yeoman colonists moved into the highlands to escape the heat. But those were small, subsistence farms. Between fighting off hostile Cherokee and trying to keep their crops growing, there was little time left for creating plantations full of black slaves. That enterprise was a result of the English banking system and plenty of flat, fertile coastal land. And that's where the money crops came in. Because of the enormous wealth generated by those cash crops, America prospered to the point that it could face down the British a hundred years later. Not a small achievement.
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  7. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:

    Political Correctness should really be called Political Holiness or Political Worship.

    Three groups JEWS, NEGROES, and HOMOS must be seen as holy and must be worshiped according to Political Correctness or Political Worship. It’s not just about being correct or being tolerant. One must be oh-so-reverential and holy-schmoly about Jews, Negroes, and Homos.

    PC doesn’t really protect other groups. It’s still permissible to mock, ridicule, or criticize(even condemn) Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Mexicans, Asians, Russians, Iranians, Latinos, Polygamists, Poor Whites, Incest-sexuals, fatties, shorties, women(Rap music and ‘bitchass ho’), dwarfs, and etc.

    The severity of punishment for deviation from PC shows that it’s not just an issue of correctness. After all, being incorrect is like giving the wrong answer on a test or a game show. No big deal.

    The reaction to the Politically Incorrect is like treatment of heretics. So, PC should really be called PW, or Political Worship.
    You must worship Jews, Homos, and Negroes like people must worship Big Brother in 1984.

    PW is a Cult of Identity of the Special Three: Jews, Homos, and Negroes.

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    It's already a Fearsome Foursome including trannies.
    , @Lemmings Folly
    I agree with your characterization of PC as being "believed in" like it's a religion, but not the way we "believe in" religion now. If you stand in the middle of your company Christmas party and proclaim that you're an atheist, absolutely nothing will happen to you. In fact, in many CHURCHES you could do the same. But try doing that with any factual statement about blacks and see what you get. Very few people get worked up emotionally about blasphemy anymore.

    I would compare the PC religion to the way religion was viewed in the Middle Ages. It was ubiquitous, commanding, inspired fear, had an army of devotees, both paid and unpaid, and it had the power to induce mass delusion. Reality was no match for the Church.

    The one error I would suggest you're making is that you have included women in the category of the out group. It would be very easy for you to determine whether women fall into the category of PC Saints, but I strongly urge you NOT to run any real life experiments.

    The insults to women you refer to in black Rap music are not addressed by the PC priests because they would have to recognize the moral depravity common among poor urban blacks. Rap music doesn't just refer to women as "ho's;" it glorifies and celebrates a lifestyle of utter moral corruption--prostitution, pimping, murder, lawlessness, dishonesty, and a psychopathic focus on maximizing personal gain without concern for others.

    The ubiquity of this moral view and the acceptance and celebration of it by so many poor urban blacks would seriously undermine one of the core tenets of the PC religion, namely that poor urban blacks are good citizens being unfairly and cruelly kept down by corrupt, racist, ignorant whites. Contrast the relative silence regarding black rapper lyrics with the treatment of Eminem, who is a white rapper.

    Many of the commonly quoted 'facts' pertaining to the 'injustices' currently suffered by women are based on known fabrications and distortions.

    I'll add support in separate posts after this one since they're long and kinda off topic.
    , @Lemmings Folly
    Some discussion of Women as protected class in PC part 1:

    --women make 70 cents on the dollar to men
    Yes, without any consideration for their education, years of experience, field of work, etc. Do we become agitated to learn that men working as short order cooks earn much less than men working as heart surgeons? Do we think that women working as day care providers should make as much as heart surgeons? Should a woman with 5 years experience make as much as a man with 20 years of experience and an advanced degree? When you control for all these variables, it turns out women make slightly more than men do. The important question to ask is, why is this myth being kept alive and promoted by people who know it's untrue?

    --women are being cheated by the child support system
    Publicly questioning this idea is like running into a blast furnace. The result will be very bad. It's much, much harder to find legitimate information on how child support is calculated than it is to find information on any of the controversial racial issues.

    Side Note. Unless you are a man who has gone through a divorce with an unfriendly spouse, you simply have no idea how family court actually works. I suggest going to realworlddivorce.com
    It takes you directly to an ebook that discusses the results of a survey of the best known divorce lawyers in each state. First it is organized into a summary of each main subject of family law, then it lets you pick any of the states to see how divorce, custody, and child support actually work there. The state where my husband divorced his previous wife described his experience quite accurately.

    It’s very, very interesting if you’re a man. And very frightening. Did you know that in very high cost child support states where the father is required to pay child support until the ‘child’ is 23, plus all medical expenses, and 100% of child care, and 100% of college expenses, and there is no upper limit on monthly child support, women sell abortions? She will present the father with a positive pregnancy test and an estimate of his costs until the child reaches majority, and a cash offer for him to settle the matter with an abortion. The mother agrees to confirm paternity before any money is exchanged. This is all done through her lawyer and it’s fully legal and enforceable so they say. End side note.

    First, in most divorces, the mother is awarded custody. The claim that men win custody xx% of the time is a terrible distortion of reality. Men don't fight for custody unless their wife is seriously unfit. If your lawyer told you that fighting for custody would cost you $50,000 minimum, and that your chances of winning were essentially zero, and when you lose, you will have to reimburse your spouse for her lawyer fees, would you contest custody?

    For the poor, please consider the following:

    If the mother can't afford to take care of her children, then the state will provide her with housing, food stamps, transportation assistance, free child care, free medical care, help with utilities, and job assistance. The state has a multi-billion dollar system in place to help her collect child support, from free attorneys to get the ball rolling, all the way through setting up garnishment of wages.

    If the father can't afford to pay child support, then he will be put into jail, typically until his friends and family are extorted into paying some part of what he owes. While the state holds him in jail, his child support will continue to accrue and it will not be reduced. There are essentially no services available to him to help fight wrongful or excessive child support orders, or to enforce his parental rights (eg, visitation).

    If you don’t think the mother and father are exactly the same in this situation, let me remind you that technically the mother is ordered to pay a specific amount of child support every month just like the father is. The reason they treat them differently is because people believe children need a mother, but a father is absolutely useless except for money.

    For the middle class, consider:

    You see everywhere the claim that after divorce, the living standards of women decline substantially, but the living standards of men improve. The original figures were -73% for women, and +42% for men. So women suffer when they divorce, and men do better when they divorce...

    *If this is true, why do women initiate roughly 3/4 of divorces? Are they a bunch of masochists? Don't they care about how their children live?
    *But how is it possible for anyone to be better off when they lose half their stuff and pay for two households instead of combining resources into one household? And how can anyone be better off after paying thousands of dollars in legal fees? Many people have to file bankruptcy because of their divorce.

    *Well, this claim is based on research published by Lenore Weitzman, and also in her book, The Divorce Revolution (1985), which was later shown to be false, both by very shoddy statistical treatment and by a serious calculation error.
    See Dr. Sanford Braver, “The Gender Gap in Standard of Living After Divorce: Vanishingly Small?” published in the Family Law Quarterly, Spring 1999.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/25740196?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    *Note that Weitzman’s claims contradicted previous research, and other researchers could not replicate her findings. Weitzman steadfastly refused to release her data files until finally in 1996 when a researcher was able to gain access to her data through a third party. She acknowledged the error. Needless to say she did not go back to Congress for another hearing to set the public record straight.
    , @Lemmings Folly
    Discussion of women as protected PC class part 2:

    Note: Exceptions. Yes there are always exceptions. My contribution is intended to bring up the side of the discussion that nobody ever seems to mention.


    But to truly appreciate the dishonesty and bias in child support, you must understand how the finances of each parent are established. A very well researched discussion is here:

    https://www.dshs.wa.gov/sites/default/files/ESA/dcs/documents/analysisofcsissues.pdf

    Here are just a few examples of the distortions that are rarely mentioned even in scholarly papers:

    *Take gross income of each parent. Subtract dollar amount of child support and alimony from father, add to mother. Use these values as income to compare financial status of the two parents.

    Notice we start with gross income and directly add and subtract transfers. All of the tax implications are ignored—father pays taxes on child support, father must file as single, father does not get to claim child deductions, father cannot claim any of the tax credits associated with children, mother files head of household, mother claims child deductions, mother takes all child tax credits and her eligibility is not affected by how much money she receives in child support, mother receives the tax credit for day care expenses even if the father pays 100% of the costs, cash value of various social services she receives are ignored, etc.

    *Child support is based on the assumption that children live with custodial parent (mother) 100% of the time, and ALL costs relating to the children come out of child support. The noncustodial parent (father) has ZERO expenses relating to the children. Even when the father has long summer visitations, substantial amounts of visitation (35% of the time, even 49% of the time), child support is calculated with the assumption that the father lives strictly as a bachelor. He doesn’t rent an apartment in a nice place for his children, he doesn’t rent an apartment with a bedroom for his children, he doesn’t buy a bed or any furniture for his children, he doesn’t buy them any toys or games, he doesn’t spend any money on their food, or entertainment, or family vacations, and even though he is almost always ordered to provide all transportation, there is no offset for his travel expenses.
    So if the father wishes to exercise visitation, he must manage to support his children with an income meant for a bachelor. In essence, he must pay to support his children twice.

    Meanwhile, the amount of child support is frequently based on income shares. The two gross incomes of the parents are combined and this amount is compared to a table of how much an intact family making this much would spend on their children. The state insists that the children should not have to suffer a drop in their living standards because their parents chose to divorce. This is accomplished by pretending that you can create two separate households with the same standard of living as the combined household. Since only the father’s contribution is monitored and enforced, only the father suffers the effects of this unrealistic standard.

    The tables are also meaningless. Note that one of the major players in the ‘scientific’ child support game chose to use how much money adults spent buying clothes for themselves as a proxy to calculate how much money a family would spend on their children.

    It is common for the father to be ordered to pay the legal fees of his ex-wife which may require him to borrow money. He will likely be ordered to assume a disproportionate amount of the marital debt. He may be required to make other payments that financially benefit his ex-wife, but that don’t get included in alimony or child support, such as life insurance premiums, student loans, car payments, etc.

    In the typical divorce with children, where father is main breadwinner, the father is forced out of the house with nothing but his clothing and perhaps a few things that he might be able to claim as separate from marital property. The house and all the furniture is awarded to the wife/ mother for the benefit of the children. The father will certainly receive significantly less than half in the property division, and he will receive no compensation whatsoever for a host of losses to come. Consider just the marital home:

    His ex-wife will benefit from the favorable interest rate she has on the marital home’s mortgage which was based primarily on the father’s earnings and credit score whereas he will receive less favorable loan terms because of the damage to his credit. She will get the equity and the appreciation and the mortgage deduction with the marital home, and she will pay nothing to the father for the closing costs and moving expenses he invested in the marital home. The mother begins her new life with a fully set-up household, built over many years by the combined income of the married couple. The father begins his new life renting a shabby run-down studio apartment furnished with a few basics donated by his family and friends.

    I’ll add these items to the list:

    A man can be named the father without any notice or opportunity to dispute it. He can be forced to pay child support for children who have been proven by DNA testing are not his. He can be forced to pay child support for children produced by his wife's adultery. He can be forced to pay back child support covering years, even decades, for children hidden from him by the mother. Boys can be ordered to pay child support for children conceived by women who were molesting them. Doctors refuse to inform the husband that the child produced during the course of his marriage and raised by him as his own, is in fact genetically unrelated to him. This is justified to protect the mother.

    And some questions I wonder about.

    Why exactly is a woman entitled to take assets from the marriage that were primarily paid for by the husbands investment in his career when she already benefited during the marriage from his earnings? If she didn't have to work or only did work she liked, and she enjoyed a big house, and nice clothes, and expensive vacations, a luxury car to drive, all paid for by her husband, why do we treat the marriage as if he kept her as a scullery maid?

    Why do we pretend that women married to men with a good living are key to their success? That he couldn't have done it without her? What about men who found their wife a drag on their success? What about men who resented the way their wife ran up bills and put them into debt and forced them to work long hours or give up on dreams they wanted to pursue? What about women who decide to have children their husband absolutely did not want? What about men stuck in sexless marriages for years and years? One spouse can deny the other one of the most fundamental of human needs without any legal penalty, but if they sleep with someone else, that's adultery.

    Why can an ex-wife take future earnings? Why should an ex-husband have to pay to support a woman in a manner of living that her own education and career investment don't deserve? If she traded children for support, then why does she get to keep and raise the children? Why is the wife able to enforce the benefits of the marital contract, but the husband gets nothing in return? She has claim to his money into the future, but she doesn't have to do any wifely things for him in the future. Why?
    , @Max Payne

    Three groups JEWS, NEGROES, and HOMOS must be seen as holy and must be worshiped according to Political Correctness or Political Worship.
     
    God help us when there is a significant population of black Jewish homosexuals in the West.
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  8. 5371 says:
    @Priss Factor
    Political Correctness should really be called Political Holiness or Political Worship.

    Three groups JEWS, NEGROES, and HOMOS must be seen as holy and must be worshiped according to Political Correctness or Political Worship. It's not just about being correct or being tolerant. One must be oh-so-reverential and holy-schmoly about Jews, Negroes, and Homos.

    PC doesn't really protect other groups. It's still permissible to mock, ridicule, or criticize(even condemn) Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Mexicans, Asians, Russians, Iranians, Latinos, Polygamists, Poor Whites, Incest-sexuals, fatties, shorties, women(Rap music and 'bitchass ho'), dwarfs, and etc.

    The severity of punishment for deviation from PC shows that it's not just an issue of correctness. After all, being incorrect is like giving the wrong answer on a test or a game show. No big deal.

    The reaction to the Politically Incorrect is like treatment of heretics. So, PC should really be called PW, or Political Worship.
    You must worship Jews, Homos, and Negroes like people must worship Big Brother in 1984.

    PW is a Cult of Identity of the Special Three: Jews, Homos, and Negroes.

    It’s already a Fearsome Foursome including trannies.

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  9. TheJester says:

    Western Europe is plagued by Islamic “no-go” areas where Sharia Law is enforced and muttawa (religious police) walk the streets punishing anyone violating Islamic dress and customs. Native populations, including the police, avoid the areas.

    It strikes me that we have also had similar “no-go” areas in the United States since at least the Civil War. We call these Black communities (a.k.a. ghettos). In a similar vein, these are communities in which African culture and customs predominate, and African law(lessness) is enforced. The communities are ruled by “Big Men” characteristic of low trust, clan/tribal-based societies. The communities also have their own language (Ebonics), reproductive strategies, religious expressions, dress, and music with historical links to sub-Saharan Africa. They’ve tried integrating into the White, European mainstream, but it didn’t work. Indeed, it appears that American Blacks prefer segregation to preserve their African heritage. This is what “safe spaces” and other “re-ghettoization” movements are all about … islands of segregation by another name.

    As Europe is experiencing, importing new low trust, clan/tribal-based immigrant populations with alien cultures, religions, languages, and customs into the United States is inviting a demographic proliferation of new “no-go” areas. This is already happening in the new Muslim-majority city of Hamtramck, Michigan, and St. Cloud, Minnesota. Public calls to prayer, Sharia Law, bans on alcohol, prayer rooms in public schools, pork-free menus, and muttawa walking the streets enforcing Islamic dress and customs are just around the corner. Like the Black ghettos, the new “no-go” areas will never integrate into mainstream culture. They will never go away.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/for-the-first-majority-muslim-us-city-residents-tense-about-its-future/2015/11/21/45d0ea96-8a24-11e5-be39-0034bb576eee_story.html

    http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/whoa-school-allows-school-prayer/

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  10. Heymrguda says:

    It is fashionable in alt right circles to demonize Lincoln as a tyrant, but I think that the slavery issue could have been resolved much better for all parties had he been able to eliminate slavery gradually as he wanted to do.

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  11. CCZ says:

    The personal and social virtues of “self-control”:

    The New Yorker Profiles January 4, 2016 Issue
    “What Money Can Buy – Darren Walker and the Ford Foundation Set Out to Conquer Inequality”

    Darren Walker was born in a charity hospital in Lafayette, La., and grew up in the 1960s in a single-parent household in rural Texas, where his mother worked as a nurse’s aide and he was enrolled in one of the first Head Start programs. He went on to the University of Texas at Austin with help from a Pell grant scholarship, awarded to low-income students based on financial need. He put in a few years at a prestigious Manhattan law firm and a Wall Street investment bank. Then he moved into the nonprofit world, first in Harlem, where, among other things, he worked on the project to build the first full-service supermarket there in a generation.

    “One day when he [Walker] was in third grade, something happened at school and he got very upset, and was crying and careening around, and his teacher told him to sit down and he didn’t. After class, the teacher, Mrs. Majors, called him over. He remembered what she said to him all his life. “She said, ‘Darren, you are going to have to come to grips with what you want to be. Because if you continue acting out the way you are acting out, you are not going to amount to anything. You’re getting in trouble too much, and little black boys like you who get in trouble a lot are not going to do well in this society. But there is a different road for you, because you are smart, you read well, you have a thirst for learning.’ And I had never heard this term, but she told me, ‘You need to understand self-control.’ And I realized then that I needed an internal mechanism to discipline my natural instincts.” He started telling himself inside his head that he had to have self-control, he had to have self-control, and when he felt like talking non-stop in class, or raising his hand for the fourth time, or getting up out of his seat when he wasn’t supposed to, he didn’t. And as he got older he saw that he was the only black boy in the advanced track at school, and that the black boys who did not get hold of themselves, and did not have self-control, were banished from the school’s mainstream and put in special ed and never came back.”

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  12. @Priss Factor
    Political Correctness should really be called Political Holiness or Political Worship.

    Three groups JEWS, NEGROES, and HOMOS must be seen as holy and must be worshiped according to Political Correctness or Political Worship. It's not just about being correct or being tolerant. One must be oh-so-reverential and holy-schmoly about Jews, Negroes, and Homos.

    PC doesn't really protect other groups. It's still permissible to mock, ridicule, or criticize(even condemn) Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Mexicans, Asians, Russians, Iranians, Latinos, Polygamists, Poor Whites, Incest-sexuals, fatties, shorties, women(Rap music and 'bitchass ho'), dwarfs, and etc.

    The severity of punishment for deviation from PC shows that it's not just an issue of correctness. After all, being incorrect is like giving the wrong answer on a test or a game show. No big deal.

    The reaction to the Politically Incorrect is like treatment of heretics. So, PC should really be called PW, or Political Worship.
    You must worship Jews, Homos, and Negroes like people must worship Big Brother in 1984.

    PW is a Cult of Identity of the Special Three: Jews, Homos, and Negroes.

    I agree with your characterization of PC as being “believed in” like it’s a religion, but not the way we “believe in” religion now. If you stand in the middle of your company Christmas party and proclaim that you’re an atheist, absolutely nothing will happen to you. In fact, in many CHURCHES you could do the same. But try doing that with any factual statement about blacks and see what you get. Very few people get worked up emotionally about blasphemy anymore.

    I would compare the PC religion to the way religion was viewed in the Middle Ages. It was ubiquitous, commanding, inspired fear, had an army of devotees, both paid and unpaid, and it had the power to induce mass delusion. Reality was no match for the Church.

    The one error I would suggest you’re making is that you have included women in the category of the out group. It would be very easy for you to determine whether women fall into the category of PC Saints, but I strongly urge you NOT to run any real life experiments.

    The insults to women you refer to in black Rap music are not addressed by the PC priests because they would have to recognize the moral depravity common among poor urban blacks. Rap music doesn’t just refer to women as “ho’s;” it glorifies and celebrates a lifestyle of utter moral corruption–prostitution, pimping, murder, lawlessness, dishonesty, and a psychopathic focus on maximizing personal gain without concern for others.

    The ubiquity of this moral view and the acceptance and celebration of it by so many poor urban blacks would seriously undermine one of the core tenets of the PC religion, namely that poor urban blacks are good citizens being unfairly and cruelly kept down by corrupt, racist, ignorant whites. Contrast the relative silence regarding black rapper lyrics with the treatment of Eminem, who is a white rapper.

    Many of the commonly quoted ‘facts’ pertaining to the ‘injustices’ currently suffered by women are based on known fabrications and distortions.

    I’ll add support in separate posts after this one since they’re long and kinda off topic.

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  13. @Priss Factor
    Political Correctness should really be called Political Holiness or Political Worship.

    Three groups JEWS, NEGROES, and HOMOS must be seen as holy and must be worshiped according to Political Correctness or Political Worship. It's not just about being correct or being tolerant. One must be oh-so-reverential and holy-schmoly about Jews, Negroes, and Homos.

    PC doesn't really protect other groups. It's still permissible to mock, ridicule, or criticize(even condemn) Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Mexicans, Asians, Russians, Iranians, Latinos, Polygamists, Poor Whites, Incest-sexuals, fatties, shorties, women(Rap music and 'bitchass ho'), dwarfs, and etc.

    The severity of punishment for deviation from PC shows that it's not just an issue of correctness. After all, being incorrect is like giving the wrong answer on a test or a game show. No big deal.

    The reaction to the Politically Incorrect is like treatment of heretics. So, PC should really be called PW, or Political Worship.
    You must worship Jews, Homos, and Negroes like people must worship Big Brother in 1984.

    PW is a Cult of Identity of the Special Three: Jews, Homos, and Negroes.

    Some discussion of Women as protected class in PC part 1:

    –women make 70 cents on the dollar to men
    Yes, without any consideration for their education, years of experience, field of work, etc. Do we become agitated to learn that men working as short order cooks earn much less than men working as heart surgeons? Do we think that women working as day care providers should make as much as heart surgeons? Should a woman with 5 years experience make as much as a man with 20 years of experience and an advanced degree? When you control for all these variables, it turns out women make slightly more than men do. The important question to ask is, why is this myth being kept alive and promoted by people who know it’s untrue?

    –women are being cheated by the child support system
    Publicly questioning this idea is like running into a blast furnace. The result will be very bad. It’s much, much harder to find legitimate information on how child support is calculated than it is to find information on any of the controversial racial issues.

    Side Note. Unless you are a man who has gone through a divorce with an unfriendly spouse, you simply have no idea how family court actually works. I suggest going to realworlddivorce.com
    It takes you directly to an ebook that discusses the results of a survey of the best known divorce lawyers in each state. First it is organized into a summary of each main subject of family law, then it lets you pick any of the states to see how divorce, custody, and child support actually work there. The state where my husband divorced his previous wife described his experience quite accurately.

    It’s very, very interesting if you’re a man. And very frightening. Did you know that in very high cost child support states where the father is required to pay child support until the ‘child’ is 23, plus all medical expenses, and 100% of child care, and 100% of college expenses, and there is no upper limit on monthly child support, women sell abortions? She will present the father with a positive pregnancy test and an estimate of his costs until the child reaches majority, and a cash offer for him to settle the matter with an abortion. The mother agrees to confirm paternity before any money is exchanged. This is all done through her lawyer and it’s fully legal and enforceable so they say. End side note.

    First, in most divorces, the mother is awarded custody. The claim that men win custody xx% of the time is a terrible distortion of reality. Men don’t fight for custody unless their wife is seriously unfit. If your lawyer told you that fighting for custody would cost you $50,000 minimum, and that your chances of winning were essentially zero, and when you lose, you will have to reimburse your spouse for her lawyer fees, would you contest custody?

    For the poor, please consider the following:

    If the mother can’t afford to take care of her children, then the state will provide her with housing, food stamps, transportation assistance, free child care, free medical care, help with utilities, and job assistance. The state has a multi-billion dollar system in place to help her collect child support, from free attorneys to get the ball rolling, all the way through setting up garnishment of wages.

    If the father can’t afford to pay child support, then he will be put into jail, typically until his friends and family are extorted into paying some part of what he owes. While the state holds him in jail, his child support will continue to accrue and it will not be reduced. There are essentially no services available to him to help fight wrongful or excessive child support orders, or to enforce his parental rights (eg, visitation).

    If you don’t think the mother and father are exactly the same in this situation, let me remind you that technically the mother is ordered to pay a specific amount of child support every month just like the father is. The reason they treat them differently is because people believe children need a mother, but a father is absolutely useless except for money.

    For the middle class, consider:

    You see everywhere the claim that after divorce, the living standards of women decline substantially, but the living standards of men improve. The original figures were -73% for women, and +42% for men. So women suffer when they divorce, and men do better when they divorce…

    *If this is true, why do women initiate roughly 3/4 of divorces? Are they a bunch of masochists? Don’t they care about how their children live?
    *But how is it possible for anyone to be better off when they lose half their stuff and pay for two households instead of combining resources into one household? And how can anyone be better off after paying thousands of dollars in legal fees? Many people have to file bankruptcy because of their divorce.

    *Well, this claim is based on research published by Lenore Weitzman, and also in her book, The Divorce Revolution (1985), which was later shown to be false, both by very shoddy statistical treatment and by a serious calculation error.
    See Dr. Sanford Braver, “The Gender Gap in Standard of Living After Divorce: Vanishingly Small?” published in the Family Law Quarterly, Spring 1999.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/25740196?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    *Note that Weitzman’s claims contradicted previous research, and other researchers could not replicate her findings. Weitzman steadfastly refused to release her data files until finally in 1996 when a researcher was able to gain access to her data through a third party. She acknowledged the error. Needless to say she did not go back to Congress for another hearing to set the public record straight.

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    The child care industry in the United States is also an illusion. As someone who spent his early years in an orphanage, based on experience I define day care centers as "day orphanages". The mothers and fathers outsource their parental responsibilities to others (primarily minority women and young women and girls making minimum wage), often shortly after birth. In this environment, "parents" are nothing more than people who drop their kids off at 6:30 AM and pick them up at 6:30 PM. "Home" is where they sleep and little more.

    Orphanages, whether for the day or full time, are not credible substitutes for parents and a family. Nannies are little better. The children grow up acculturated with the values and customs of their transient "care givers" rather than their parents. Studies have also shown that many of these children grow up angry and with other personality disorders.

    It is little wonder that the White demographic in the United States is on the decline. The health of a society and a nation turns on the family. If families are in crisis, the society is in crisis. If families are healthy, the society is healthy. White families in the United States are in terminal crisis.
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  14. joef says:

    afro americans have to hold on to this white guilt history racket to keep the benefits coming, and keep their community for being accountable for their own behavior. To them that is the only option they have is to keep this white guilt racket going, because working themselves out of the ghetto does not seem to appeal to them (like all other immigrants had to – – their way was not paved in gold). So with the help of their leftist handlers from the MSM and academia, they target the rest of us with white guilt in order to keep this parasitical relationship alive. It does not matter that most all of us have no responsibility for slavery, and most of our ancestors do not as well. It does not matter that the Benin Empire in Sub Saharan Africa sold us the slaves (probably laughing at the stupid white man in the process because they seemed to have gotten rid of their criminal, crazy, and lazy, upon us).

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  15. @Priss Factor
    Political Correctness should really be called Political Holiness or Political Worship.

    Three groups JEWS, NEGROES, and HOMOS must be seen as holy and must be worshiped according to Political Correctness or Political Worship. It's not just about being correct or being tolerant. One must be oh-so-reverential and holy-schmoly about Jews, Negroes, and Homos.

    PC doesn't really protect other groups. It's still permissible to mock, ridicule, or criticize(even condemn) Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Mexicans, Asians, Russians, Iranians, Latinos, Polygamists, Poor Whites, Incest-sexuals, fatties, shorties, women(Rap music and 'bitchass ho'), dwarfs, and etc.

    The severity of punishment for deviation from PC shows that it's not just an issue of correctness. After all, being incorrect is like giving the wrong answer on a test or a game show. No big deal.

    The reaction to the Politically Incorrect is like treatment of heretics. So, PC should really be called PW, or Political Worship.
    You must worship Jews, Homos, and Negroes like people must worship Big Brother in 1984.

    PW is a Cult of Identity of the Special Three: Jews, Homos, and Negroes.

    Discussion of women as protected PC class part 2:

    Note: Exceptions. Yes there are always exceptions. My contribution is intended to bring up the side of the discussion that nobody ever seems to mention.

    But to truly appreciate the dishonesty and bias in child support, you must understand how the finances of each parent are established. A very well researched discussion is here:

    https://www.dshs.wa.gov/sites/default/files/ESA/dcs/documents/analysisofcsissues.pdf

    Here are just a few examples of the distortions that are rarely mentioned even in scholarly papers:

    [MORE]

    *Take gross income of each parent. Subtract dollar amount of child support and alimony from father, add to mother. Use these values as income to compare financial status of the two parents.

    Notice we start with gross income and directly add and subtract transfers. All of the tax implications are ignored—father pays taxes on child support, father must file as single, father does not get to claim child deductions, father cannot claim any of the tax credits associated with children, mother files head of household, mother claims child deductions, mother takes all child tax credits and her eligibility is not affected by how much money she receives in child support, mother receives the tax credit for day care expenses even if the father pays 100% of the costs, cash value of various social services she receives are ignored, etc.

    *Child support is based on the assumption that children live with custodial parent (mother) 100% of the time, and ALL costs relating to the children come out of child support. The noncustodial parent (father) has ZERO expenses relating to the children. Even when the father has long summer visitations, substantial amounts of visitation (35% of the time, even 49% of the time), child support is calculated with the assumption that the father lives strictly as a bachelor. He doesn’t rent an apartment in a nice place for his children, he doesn’t rent an apartment with a bedroom for his children, he doesn’t buy a bed or any furniture for his children, he doesn’t buy them any toys or games, he doesn’t spend any money on their food, or entertainment, or family vacations, and even though he is almost always ordered to provide all transportation, there is no offset for his travel expenses.
    So if the father wishes to exercise visitation, he must manage to support his children with an income meant for a bachelor. In essence, he must pay to support his children twice.

    Meanwhile, the amount of child support is frequently based on income shares. The two gross incomes of the parents are combined and this amount is compared to a table of how much an intact family making this much would spend on their children. The state insists that the children should not have to suffer a drop in their living standards because their parents chose to divorce. This is accomplished by pretending that you can create two separate households with the same standard of living as the combined household. Since only the father’s contribution is monitored and enforced, only the father suffers the effects of this unrealistic standard.

    The tables are also meaningless. Note that one of the major players in the ‘scientific’ child support game chose to use how much money adults spent buying clothes for themselves as a proxy to calculate how much money a family would spend on their children.

    It is common for the father to be ordered to pay the legal fees of his ex-wife which may require him to borrow money. He will likely be ordered to assume a disproportionate amount of the marital debt. He may be required to make other payments that financially benefit his ex-wife, but that don’t get included in alimony or child support, such as life insurance premiums, student loans, car payments, etc.

    In the typical divorce with children, where father is main breadwinner, the father is forced out of the house with nothing but his clothing and perhaps a few things that he might be able to claim as separate from marital property. The house and all the furniture is awarded to the wife/ mother for the benefit of the children. The father will certainly receive significantly less than half in the property division, and he will receive no compensation whatsoever for a host of losses to come. Consider just the marital home:

    His ex-wife will benefit from the favorable interest rate she has on the marital home’s mortgage which was based primarily on the father’s earnings and credit score whereas he will receive less favorable loan terms because of the damage to his credit. She will get the equity and the appreciation and the mortgage deduction with the marital home, and she will pay nothing to the father for the closing costs and moving expenses he invested in the marital home. The mother begins her new life with a fully set-up household, built over many years by the combined income of the married couple. The father begins his new life renting a shabby run-down studio apartment furnished with a few basics donated by his family and friends.

    I’ll add these items to the list:

    A man can be named the father without any notice or opportunity to dispute it. He can be forced to pay child support for children who have been proven by DNA testing are not his. He can be forced to pay child support for children produced by his wife’s adultery. He can be forced to pay back child support covering years, even decades, for children hidden from him by the mother. Boys can be ordered to pay child support for children conceived by women who were molesting them. Doctors refuse to inform the husband that the child produced during the course of his marriage and raised by him as his own, is in fact genetically unrelated to him. This is justified to protect the mother.

    And some questions I wonder about.

    Why exactly is a woman entitled to take assets from the marriage that were primarily paid for by the husbands investment in his career when she already benefited during the marriage from his earnings? If she didn’t have to work or only did work she liked, and she enjoyed a big house, and nice clothes, and expensive vacations, a luxury car to drive, all paid for by her husband, why do we treat the marriage as if he kept her as a scullery maid?

    Why do we pretend that women married to men with a good living are key to their success? That he couldn’t have done it without her? What about men who found their wife a drag on their success? What about men who resented the way their wife ran up bills and put them into debt and forced them to work long hours or give up on dreams they wanted to pursue? What about women who decide to have children their husband absolutely did not want? What about men stuck in sexless marriages for years and years? One spouse can deny the other one of the most fundamental of human needs without any legal penalty, but if they sleep with someone else, that’s adultery.

    Why can an ex-wife take future earnings? Why should an ex-husband have to pay to support a woman in a manner of living that her own education and career investment don’t deserve? If she traded children for support, then why does she get to keep and raise the children? Why is the wife able to enforce the benefits of the marital contract, but the husband gets nothing in return? She has claim to his money into the future, but she doesn’t have to do any wifely things for him in the future. Why?

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  16. @Priss Factor
    "It has often been stated that slavery is America’s original sin."

    I guess 'genocide' of American Indians doesn't count.

    First there are more indians in the us now than at any time since whites began settling. next The indians fought hard and it was touch and go for several hundred years finally we had enough and had the numbers and attempted to put them on reservations by force. since i can tell youre a sissy lefty explain why it would bother you that whites are anti immigrant but it was ok for indians to be.
    If you were from out west you would know indian romanticizing is really stupid they make niggers look civilized

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    First there are more indians in the us now than at any time since whites began settling.
     
    Wow. I didn't know there were 100~ million native Americans in the US. One third of the entire US population.... amazing....
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  17. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    All anti-racism is about keeping a white slave, that’s all. Black wealth is at LEAST 3 times what it would be if they lived in a black country, possibly 10 times, solely because they live among whites. In the 50s and 60s it was possible to believe that better education, affirmative action, etc. would raise them up but we’ve now had more than a half-century of the experiment, and they still have to be held up, they still depend on artificial support from whites to prevent them from all collapsing into something even worse than Detroit. The shrillness today from blacks and the left is the sound of the narrative collapsing, the sound of fear that the slaves will somehow scamper away in the middle of the night. They should be afraid. Demographics is destiny and when America has a majority third-world population it will be a third-world country, and there won’t be any money to pay for the left’s sacred social programs. And blacks will be on the bottom of the dung-heap. It’s a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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  18. TheJester says:
    @Lemmings Folly
    Some discussion of Women as protected class in PC part 1:

    --women make 70 cents on the dollar to men
    Yes, without any consideration for their education, years of experience, field of work, etc. Do we become agitated to learn that men working as short order cooks earn much less than men working as heart surgeons? Do we think that women working as day care providers should make as much as heart surgeons? Should a woman with 5 years experience make as much as a man with 20 years of experience and an advanced degree? When you control for all these variables, it turns out women make slightly more than men do. The important question to ask is, why is this myth being kept alive and promoted by people who know it's untrue?

    --women are being cheated by the child support system
    Publicly questioning this idea is like running into a blast furnace. The result will be very bad. It's much, much harder to find legitimate information on how child support is calculated than it is to find information on any of the controversial racial issues.

    Side Note. Unless you are a man who has gone through a divorce with an unfriendly spouse, you simply have no idea how family court actually works. I suggest going to realworlddivorce.com
    It takes you directly to an ebook that discusses the results of a survey of the best known divorce lawyers in each state. First it is organized into a summary of each main subject of family law, then it lets you pick any of the states to see how divorce, custody, and child support actually work there. The state where my husband divorced his previous wife described his experience quite accurately.

    It’s very, very interesting if you’re a man. And very frightening. Did you know that in very high cost child support states where the father is required to pay child support until the ‘child’ is 23, plus all medical expenses, and 100% of child care, and 100% of college expenses, and there is no upper limit on monthly child support, women sell abortions? She will present the father with a positive pregnancy test and an estimate of his costs until the child reaches majority, and a cash offer for him to settle the matter with an abortion. The mother agrees to confirm paternity before any money is exchanged. This is all done through her lawyer and it’s fully legal and enforceable so they say. End side note.

    First, in most divorces, the mother is awarded custody. The claim that men win custody xx% of the time is a terrible distortion of reality. Men don't fight for custody unless their wife is seriously unfit. If your lawyer told you that fighting for custody would cost you $50,000 minimum, and that your chances of winning were essentially zero, and when you lose, you will have to reimburse your spouse for her lawyer fees, would you contest custody?

    For the poor, please consider the following:

    If the mother can't afford to take care of her children, then the state will provide her with housing, food stamps, transportation assistance, free child care, free medical care, help with utilities, and job assistance. The state has a multi-billion dollar system in place to help her collect child support, from free attorneys to get the ball rolling, all the way through setting up garnishment of wages.

    If the father can't afford to pay child support, then he will be put into jail, typically until his friends and family are extorted into paying some part of what he owes. While the state holds him in jail, his child support will continue to accrue and it will not be reduced. There are essentially no services available to him to help fight wrongful or excessive child support orders, or to enforce his parental rights (eg, visitation).

    If you don’t think the mother and father are exactly the same in this situation, let me remind you that technically the mother is ordered to pay a specific amount of child support every month just like the father is. The reason they treat them differently is because people believe children need a mother, but a father is absolutely useless except for money.

    For the middle class, consider:

    You see everywhere the claim that after divorce, the living standards of women decline substantially, but the living standards of men improve. The original figures were -73% for women, and +42% for men. So women suffer when they divorce, and men do better when they divorce...

    *If this is true, why do women initiate roughly 3/4 of divorces? Are they a bunch of masochists? Don't they care about how their children live?
    *But how is it possible for anyone to be better off when they lose half their stuff and pay for two households instead of combining resources into one household? And how can anyone be better off after paying thousands of dollars in legal fees? Many people have to file bankruptcy because of their divorce.

    *Well, this claim is based on research published by Lenore Weitzman, and also in her book, The Divorce Revolution (1985), which was later shown to be false, both by very shoddy statistical treatment and by a serious calculation error.
    See Dr. Sanford Braver, “The Gender Gap in Standard of Living After Divorce: Vanishingly Small?” published in the Family Law Quarterly, Spring 1999.
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/25740196?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    *Note that Weitzman’s claims contradicted previous research, and other researchers could not replicate her findings. Weitzman steadfastly refused to release her data files until finally in 1996 when a researcher was able to gain access to her data through a third party. She acknowledged the error. Needless to say she did not go back to Congress for another hearing to set the public record straight.

    The child care industry in the United States is also an illusion. As someone who spent his early years in an orphanage, based on experience I define day care centers as “day orphanages”. The mothers and fathers outsource their parental responsibilities to others (primarily minority women and young women and girls making minimum wage), often shortly after birth. In this environment, “parents” are nothing more than people who drop their kids off at 6:30 AM and pick them up at 6:30 PM. “Home” is where they sleep and little more.

    Orphanages, whether for the day or full time, are not credible substitutes for parents and a family. Nannies are little better. The children grow up acculturated with the values and customs of their transient “care givers” rather than their parents. Studies have also shown that many of these children grow up angry and with other personality disorders.

    It is little wonder that the White demographic in the United States is on the decline. The health of a society and a nation turns on the family. If families are in crisis, the society is in crisis. If families are healthy, the society is healthy. White families in the United States are in terminal crisis.

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    When the local daycare center was threatened with loss of funding the women's group started immediately with the identity politics. White families are in decline by deliberate design.
    , @Jacques Sheete

    The health of a society and a nation turns on the family. If families are in crisis, the society is in crisis. If families are healthy, the society is healthy.
     
    This ought to be engraved in stone in very large letters, and placed on some highly visible monument with high traffic in every city and in every school in the country. It ought to be printed in every newspaper daily, and blasted from the boob tube and radio at least hourly.

    epochehusserl has it correct. It is by design and if people only had a clue how true that is, they'd be shocked into changing things.

    LD, you dunna nice job here! Another fine one!

    PS: Everyone should read Franklin's "An Address to the Public from the Pennsylvania Society for Promoting the Abolition of Slavery, and the Relief of Free Negroes unlawfully held in Bondage" written in Philadelphia, 9 November, 1789. Available here.:http://oll.libertyfund.org/quotes/545

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  19. @TheJester
    The child care industry in the United States is also an illusion. As someone who spent his early years in an orphanage, based on experience I define day care centers as "day orphanages". The mothers and fathers outsource their parental responsibilities to others (primarily minority women and young women and girls making minimum wage), often shortly after birth. In this environment, "parents" are nothing more than people who drop their kids off at 6:30 AM and pick them up at 6:30 PM. "Home" is where they sleep and little more.

    Orphanages, whether for the day or full time, are not credible substitutes for parents and a family. Nannies are little better. The children grow up acculturated with the values and customs of their transient "care givers" rather than their parents. Studies have also shown that many of these children grow up angry and with other personality disorders.

    It is little wonder that the White demographic in the United States is on the decline. The health of a society and a nation turns on the family. If families are in crisis, the society is in crisis. If families are healthy, the society is healthy. White families in the United States are in terminal crisis.

    When the local daycare center was threatened with loss of funding the women’s group started immediately with the identity politics. White families are in decline by deliberate design.

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  20. @TheJester
    The child care industry in the United States is also an illusion. As someone who spent his early years in an orphanage, based on experience I define day care centers as "day orphanages". The mothers and fathers outsource their parental responsibilities to others (primarily minority women and young women and girls making minimum wage), often shortly after birth. In this environment, "parents" are nothing more than people who drop their kids off at 6:30 AM and pick them up at 6:30 PM. "Home" is where they sleep and little more.

    Orphanages, whether for the day or full time, are not credible substitutes for parents and a family. Nannies are little better. The children grow up acculturated with the values and customs of their transient "care givers" rather than their parents. Studies have also shown that many of these children grow up angry and with other personality disorders.

    It is little wonder that the White demographic in the United States is on the decline. The health of a society and a nation turns on the family. If families are in crisis, the society is in crisis. If families are healthy, the society is healthy. White families in the United States are in terminal crisis.

    The health of a society and a nation turns on the family. If families are in crisis, the society is in crisis. If families are healthy, the society is healthy.

    This ought to be engraved in stone in very large letters, and placed on some highly visible monument with high traffic in every city and in every school in the country. It ought to be printed in every newspaper daily, and blasted from the boob tube and radio at least hourly.

    epochehusserl has it correct. It is by design and if people only had a clue how true that is, they’d be shocked into changing things.

    LD, you dunna nice job here! Another fine one!

    PS: Everyone should read Franklin’s “An Address to the Public from the Pennsylvania Society for Promoting the Abolition of Slavery, and the Relief of Free Negroes unlawfully held in Bondage” written in Philadelphia, 9 November, 1789. Available here.:http://oll.libertyfund.org/quotes/545

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  21. Rehmat says:

    Nyeth DINH – slavery was abolished 151 years ago on paper. It exited in United states until the 1970s.

    Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery.

    Afro-American demands “equal rights” because that’s what American Constitution lies about.

    Half-White half-African Barack Obama was given Nobel Peace as a ploy to wage more wars against non-Whites which was not surprising as many of earlier recipients of this award included Zionist Jew war criminals.

    How many American historians remember Black Muslim slaves like Yarrow Mamout who was brought in chains from Guinea to Maryland in 1752? He won his freedom in 1796 and four year later purchased property on today’s Dent Place in Georgetown where John Kerry lives blocks away.

    How about Champ Muhammad Ali the most famous American in the history of the country established over the dead bodies of over 100 million American Natives.

    Late Muhammad Ali was not a politician, academic or an Islamic cleric. He was a sportsman since his childhood. So why the Organized Jewry hates him? Well, it’s basically rooted in Jewish hatred of Blacks and major Jewish role in African slavery – and Muhammad Ali’s former links with Nation of Islam, particularly its leader Louis Farrakhan.

    It’s no secret that most of major sports leagues and international sports bodies are controlled by Jewish elites. I remember how much mess the Jewish-controlled media made when Shahid Khan became the very first Muslim owner of a major NFL team in December 2011…..

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/04/29/muhammad-ali-still-chased-by-jewish-lobby/

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    The constitution guarantees the right to contract not equality.
    , @Priss Factor
    "Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery."

    They just did it through thuggery and crime.
    , @Che Guava
    You are such a bore, a broken record, as other commenters have pointed out.

    Why don't you write a little essay on teachings on enslavement of Kuffars in the Koran and Hadiths?

    About the centuries of Islamic raids on coastal communities as far afield as the British Isles to kidnap slaves? Shame that they didn't elevate the intelligence of middle Eastern populations.

    You may also write about how Islamic traders established the slave-trade from Africa, although this was based on taking advantage of the existing custom of inter-tribal slavery.

    Why not mention the numerous Muslim countries (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan as just two) that still have chattel slavery, or the many (Kuwait and all of the Arab Persian Gulf states, with the possible exception of Yemen) that have cruel systems of indentured labour, tantamount to slavery?

    Predicably, you will never mention any of those things.

    On a note that you would love, the Jewish role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade, Tony Martin has some good research.
    , @TJM
    GREAT POST!!!!!!

    So tired of the hyper sterile bull shit we are fed, which ignores the actions of a malicious group, whom refer to themselves as the "tribe". The tribe loves to play the morally superior role, "America's" conscience, yet behind the scenes they work tirelessly dividing the American people, pitting women against men, blacks against whites and Christians against Muslims.

    The tribe certainly controls Wall Street, Hollywood, much of the MSM, and makes up almost HALF of the donations to the two political parties, while making up just 2% of the population. And while they wield incredible power, and certainly have a huge influence of the US government and US society in general, we are NOT ALLOWED to critique what they do with this power. Any question about Jewish power is met with screams of "Antisemitism", even though most of them are NOT Semites aka Arabs).

    BLM is just another divisive devise meant to further erode race relations. So instead of Americans focusing on TPP, or our aggressive stance towards Russia, we focus on this...

    Zionism is the most destructive for in America, and possibly the world. MLK, John Lennon, Malcolm X, JFK, Ganhdi and RFK and the Rev Louis Farrahan, can all attest to this, all great men, and with the exception of one, all assassinated, not a coincidence. Can't have men high love and morals leading America, NO, they insure we get filth like Clinton, Bush and Obama, moral cowards, who will not stand up to their evil.

    , @epochehusserl
    There were not one hundred million dead native americans. Their social structures wouldn't have supported even 10 million. The largest settlemnts in Illinois had 40000 people in it.
    , @KenH

    Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery.
     
    Incorrect. A radical faction within the Nation of Islam, the fruit of Islam, began targeting and killing whites in California in the late 1960's and 1970's. These came to be known as the Zebra killings. Some were tortured in gruesome fashion. While there were only about two dozen official victims, police believe several hundred cases were related to this murderous group and its virulently anti-white ideology. Suggest you read Zebra by Clark Howard.

    Some black gangs have initiation rites that include killing or committing a crime against a white person. Black men rape 15k to 40k white women annually. 90% of interracial crimes are black on white.

    Afro-American demands “equal rights” because that’s what American Constitution lies about.
     
    Incorrect again. The American nation was not founded on racial equality and at the time of its founding and for a long time thereafter citizenship was restricted to "free, white persons", and immigration was limited to "white persons of good character". Abe Lincoln wanted to resettle the freed black slaves to Central America and Africa, specifically Liberia.
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  22. @Tony
    Owning slaves made the white man weak. A strong white nation doesnt need slaves. They would do the hard physical work themselves. The bible reading southerners should have known that slavery never ends well.

    Tony, the reason the American colonies began to flourish in the late 17th century was because of the surging exports of rice, indigo, and tobacco. These crops were planted largely in VA and the Carolinas. But it was impossible to get Europeans to move to those climates in large numbers. The climate in the growing season is simply too hot and the backbreaking work of manual labor in temperatures reaching the mid-90s on a daily basis was simply more than a person of Northern European origin was willing to face. Most of the early yeoman colonists moved into the highlands to escape the heat. But those were small, subsistence farms. Between fighting off hostile Cherokee and trying to keep their crops growing, there was little time left for creating plantations full of black slaves. That enterprise was a result of the English banking system and plenty of flat, fertile coastal land. And that’s where the money crops came in. Because of the enormous wealth generated by those cash crops, America prospered to the point that it could face down the British a hundred years later. Not a small achievement.

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    Your comment is total bull. Despite their wealth, lowland South Carolinians were defeated by the British in May, 1780, and Charlestown surrendered. Cornwallis's mobile British army was driven out of South Carolina and North Carolina by upcountry, that is Scots-Irish militia, in two major battles: Kings Mountain and Cowpens. And in dozens of smaller fights like Ramsour's Mill, Musgrove's Mill, Houck's Defeat, Blackstock's Plantation. The upcountry militia also contributed to the decimation of Cornwallis's army at Guilford Courthouse. His next stop was Yorktown.

    The rice and indigo crops of the Lowlands did not pay for these victories. The blood and ferocity of the upcountry militias paid that debt.

    Finally, the Scots-Irish settlers of the upcountry (hardly "highland") Carolinas did not arrive from the lowlands as you portray. They came down the Great Valley of Virginia from Pennsylvania and Maryland, and earlier from Ulster.

    You are quite a purveyor of misinformation.
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  23. @Rehmat
    Nyeth DINH - slavery was abolished 151 years ago on paper. It exited in United states until the 1970s.

    Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery.

    Afro-American demands "equal rights" because that's what American Constitution lies about.

    Half-White half-African Barack Obama was given Nobel Peace as a ploy to wage more wars against non-Whites which was not surprising as many of earlier recipients of this award included Zionist Jew war criminals.

    How many American historians remember Black Muslim slaves like Yarrow Mamout who was brought in chains from Guinea to Maryland in 1752? He won his freedom in 1796 and four year later purchased property on today's Dent Place in Georgetown where John Kerry lives blocks away.

    How about Champ Muhammad Ali the most famous American in the history of the country established over the dead bodies of over 100 million American Natives.

    Late Muhammad Ali was not a politician, academic or an Islamic cleric. He was a sportsman since his childhood. So why the Organized Jewry hates him? Well, it’s basically rooted in Jewish hatred of Blacks and major Jewish role in African slavery – and Muhammad Ali’s former links with Nation of Islam, particularly its leader Louis Farrakhan.

    It’s no secret that most of major sports leagues and international sports bodies are controlled by Jewish elites. I remember how much mess the Jewish-controlled media made when Shahid Khan became the very first Muslim owner of a major NFL team in December 2011.....

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/04/29/muhammad-ali-still-chased-by-jewish-lobby/

    The constitution guarantees the right to contract not equality.

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    Can you explain that in simple English dude? Or should I assume that you agree with American Jewish 'intellectual' Marianne Williamson who says both the US and Israel are not "democratic societies".

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/08/31/marianne-williamson-israel-is-not-a-democracy/
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  24. vinteuil says:

    Really interesting piece by Linh Dinh. He’s obviously been doing some serious homework on American history & on his unz.com audience.

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  25. TJM says:
    @Priss Factor
    History, history, history.

    It doesn't matter.

    If all those blacks had been brought to America as free men, we'd have the same problem.

    It's biology, not history.

    Blacks mess things up here, blacks mess things up in Jamaica and Haiti, blacks mess things up in Africa, blacks mess things up in Europe.

    Sure, some higher IQ Nigerian immigrants do better in the West, but that's cream of the crop. Most Nigerians in Nigeria turned that nation into a hellhole.

    And look where South Africa is going. And before anyone blames Apartheid, look at black African nations that had no apartheid. They ended up worse.

    Blacks are stronger, more aggressive, more volatile, more pathological, less introspective, less self-critical, and etc.
    Evolution made them that way because they lived in hunter-warrior societies where badass mofo traits were most favored.

    If Americans had brought Vietnamese like Dinh as slaves, things would have turned out very differently.
    Yes, Vietnamese-American descendants of slaves would have bitter narrative and harbor some anger, but they would pose no threat since Vietnamese are scrawny geeks. They would threaten or scare no one. There never would have been a Vietnamese Jack Johnson or Muhammad Ali or OJ Simpson. There wouldn't be jungalo fever. And even if there had been a Vietnamese Civil Rights Leader, he wouldn't be an object of cult worship since Vietnamese don't have boom box voices that have a magical voodoo effect on white folks... indeed as if they are hearing the voice of god hisself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COxc4BsV1Y8

    Vietnamese were fearsome only in Vietnam where they outnumbered the French and Americans by a huge margin. But on a one-on-one basis, a short skinny vietnamese is no threat to a white man. As a minority, they would have posed no threat to white folks no matter how bitter they would have been about their history. Also, as East Asians, Viets have servile genes(like Mexican indigenous mongoid folks) and would have just gotten along with White Power.

    So, the real shame of America wasn't so much slavery. It was WHOM whites enslaved.
    They made a terrible choice in enslaving a people bigger, tougher, and more aggressive than themselves.

    White people should have enslaved scrawny Vietnamese, not powerful blacks.

    Wow, nice racism.

    History does matter, and you need not go back to slavery, but the 1950′s when there was a thriving and growing black middle class.

    There have been many working against a strong AMERICAN middle class, and the push for race wars.

    A corrupt Zionist government like America’s works much better when there is division than when America is united.

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  26. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website
    @Rehmat
    Nyeth DINH - slavery was abolished 151 years ago on paper. It exited in United states until the 1970s.

    Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery.

    Afro-American demands "equal rights" because that's what American Constitution lies about.

    Half-White half-African Barack Obama was given Nobel Peace as a ploy to wage more wars against non-Whites which was not surprising as many of earlier recipients of this award included Zionist Jew war criminals.

    How many American historians remember Black Muslim slaves like Yarrow Mamout who was brought in chains from Guinea to Maryland in 1752? He won his freedom in 1796 and four year later purchased property on today's Dent Place in Georgetown where John Kerry lives blocks away.

    How about Champ Muhammad Ali the most famous American in the history of the country established over the dead bodies of over 100 million American Natives.

    Late Muhammad Ali was not a politician, academic or an Islamic cleric. He was a sportsman since his childhood. So why the Organized Jewry hates him? Well, it’s basically rooted in Jewish hatred of Blacks and major Jewish role in African slavery – and Muhammad Ali’s former links with Nation of Islam, particularly its leader Louis Farrakhan.

    It’s no secret that most of major sports leagues and international sports bodies are controlled by Jewish elites. I remember how much mess the Jewish-controlled media made when Shahid Khan became the very first Muslim owner of a major NFL team in December 2011.....

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/04/29/muhammad-ali-still-chased-by-jewish-lobby/

    “Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery.”

    They just did it through thuggery and crime.

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    Do you know darling - your tribe had long beaten Blacks in "thuggery and crime".

    As the westerner media and political leaders glorify a state established and maintained by foreign Jewish terrorists and gangsters – the Jewish Mayor of Las Vegas Carolyn Goodman opened to public The National Museum of Organized Crime and Law Enforcement’ on February 15, 2012, honoring some of America’s most notorious Jewish mobsters. The museum is located in downtown Las Vegas, a city created by crime gangsters. The the project is her husband, the former Mayor of Las Vegas, Oscar Goodman. The museum has already picked a rightful name: the Mob Museum. Watch a video below.

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/04/04/las-vegas-museum-honors-jewish-mobsters/
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  27. Che Guava says:
    @Rehmat
    Nyeth DINH - slavery was abolished 151 years ago on paper. It exited in United states until the 1970s.

    Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery.

    Afro-American demands "equal rights" because that's what American Constitution lies about.

    Half-White half-African Barack Obama was given Nobel Peace as a ploy to wage more wars against non-Whites which was not surprising as many of earlier recipients of this award included Zionist Jew war criminals.

    How many American historians remember Black Muslim slaves like Yarrow Mamout who was brought in chains from Guinea to Maryland in 1752? He won his freedom in 1796 and four year later purchased property on today's Dent Place in Georgetown where John Kerry lives blocks away.

    How about Champ Muhammad Ali the most famous American in the history of the country established over the dead bodies of over 100 million American Natives.

    Late Muhammad Ali was not a politician, academic or an Islamic cleric. He was a sportsman since his childhood. So why the Organized Jewry hates him? Well, it’s basically rooted in Jewish hatred of Blacks and major Jewish role in African slavery – and Muhammad Ali’s former links with Nation of Islam, particularly its leader Louis Farrakhan.

    It’s no secret that most of major sports leagues and international sports bodies are controlled by Jewish elites. I remember how much mess the Jewish-controlled media made when Shahid Khan became the very first Muslim owner of a major NFL team in December 2011.....

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/04/29/muhammad-ali-still-chased-by-jewish-lobby/

    You are such a bore, a broken record, as other commenters have pointed out.

    Why don’t you write a little essay on teachings on enslavement of Kuffars in the Koran and Hadiths?

    About the centuries of Islamic raids on coastal communities as far afield as the British Isles to kidnap slaves? Shame that they didn’t elevate the intelligence of middle Eastern populations.

    You may also write about how Islamic traders established the slave-trade from Africa, although this was based on taking advantage of the existing custom of inter-tribal slavery.

    Why not mention the numerous Muslim countries (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan as just two) that still have chattel slavery, or the many (Kuwait and all of the Arab Persian Gulf states, with the possible exception of Yemen) that have cruel systems of indentured labour, tantamount to slavery?

    Predicably, you will never mention any of those things.

    On a note that you would love, the Jewish role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade, Tony Martin has some good research.

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    I know, I know..... how boring and terrifying is to read your holy Talmud.

    If you have not read it - get a copy of Israeli historian Israel Shahak's book, JEWISH RELIGION, JEWISH HISTORY. I'm sure after reading the book you would be able to understand my comments much better.
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  28. TJM says:
    @Rehmat
    Nyeth DINH - slavery was abolished 151 years ago on paper. It exited in United states until the 1970s.

    Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery.

    Afro-American demands "equal rights" because that's what American Constitution lies about.

    Half-White half-African Barack Obama was given Nobel Peace as a ploy to wage more wars against non-Whites which was not surprising as many of earlier recipients of this award included Zionist Jew war criminals.

    How many American historians remember Black Muslim slaves like Yarrow Mamout who was brought in chains from Guinea to Maryland in 1752? He won his freedom in 1796 and four year later purchased property on today's Dent Place in Georgetown where John Kerry lives blocks away.

    How about Champ Muhammad Ali the most famous American in the history of the country established over the dead bodies of over 100 million American Natives.

    Late Muhammad Ali was not a politician, academic or an Islamic cleric. He was a sportsman since his childhood. So why the Organized Jewry hates him? Well, it’s basically rooted in Jewish hatred of Blacks and major Jewish role in African slavery – and Muhammad Ali’s former links with Nation of Islam, particularly its leader Louis Farrakhan.

    It’s no secret that most of major sports leagues and international sports bodies are controlled by Jewish elites. I remember how much mess the Jewish-controlled media made when Shahid Khan became the very first Muslim owner of a major NFL team in December 2011.....

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/04/29/muhammad-ali-still-chased-by-jewish-lobby/

    GREAT POST!!!!!!

    So tired of the hyper sterile bull shit we are fed, which ignores the actions of a malicious group, whom refer to themselves as the “tribe”. The tribe loves to play the morally superior role, “America’s” conscience, yet behind the scenes they work tirelessly dividing the American people, pitting women against men, blacks against whites and Christians against Muslims.

    The tribe certainly controls Wall Street, Hollywood, much of the MSM, and makes up almost HALF of the donations to the two political parties, while making up just 2% of the population. And while they wield incredible power, and certainly have a huge influence of the US government and US society in general, we are NOT ALLOWED to critique what they do with this power. Any question about Jewish power is met with screams of “Antisemitism”, even though most of them are NOT Semites aka Arabs).

    BLM is just another divisive devise meant to further erode race relations. So instead of Americans focusing on TPP, or our aggressive stance towards Russia, we focus on this…

    Zionism is the most destructive for in America, and possibly the world. MLK, John Lennon, Malcolm X, JFK, Ganhdi and RFK and the Rev Louis Farrahan, can all attest to this, all great men, and with the exception of one, all assassinated, not a coincidence. Can’t have men high love and morals leading America, NO, they insure we get filth like Clinton, Bush and Obama, moral cowards, who will not stand up to their evil.

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    So ynu are a rent-a-post from some other site where Rehmat is, at times. Congratulations, you, too are a barely readable fool.
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  29. Che Guava says:

    Linh,

    Thanks for collecting and presenting so many interesting quotes. I found the ones from Franklin and Stalien very interesting, never read the former quote before, never heard of the latter person before. Franklin’s seems to dovetail quite nicely into the nineteenth century of wage slavery.

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  30. @Rehmat
    Nyeth DINH - slavery was abolished 151 years ago on paper. It exited in United states until the 1970s.

    Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery.

    Afro-American demands "equal rights" because that's what American Constitution lies about.

    Half-White half-African Barack Obama was given Nobel Peace as a ploy to wage more wars against non-Whites which was not surprising as many of earlier recipients of this award included Zionist Jew war criminals.

    How many American historians remember Black Muslim slaves like Yarrow Mamout who was brought in chains from Guinea to Maryland in 1752? He won his freedom in 1796 and four year later purchased property on today's Dent Place in Georgetown where John Kerry lives blocks away.

    How about Champ Muhammad Ali the most famous American in the history of the country established over the dead bodies of over 100 million American Natives.

    Late Muhammad Ali was not a politician, academic or an Islamic cleric. He was a sportsman since his childhood. So why the Organized Jewry hates him? Well, it’s basically rooted in Jewish hatred of Blacks and major Jewish role in African slavery – and Muhammad Ali’s former links with Nation of Islam, particularly its leader Louis Farrakhan.

    It’s no secret that most of major sports leagues and international sports bodies are controlled by Jewish elites. I remember how much mess the Jewish-controlled media made when Shahid Khan became the very first Muslim owner of a major NFL team in December 2011.....

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/04/29/muhammad-ali-still-chased-by-jewish-lobby/

    There were not one hundred million dead native americans. Their social structures wouldn’t have supported even 10 million. The largest settlemnts in Illinois had 40000 people in it.

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    Idiots like you also believe that Biblical G-d promised Palestine to Khazarian Jews whose ancestors never lived in Palestine for the last 5,000 years.

    In 2012, professor Shlomo Sand (Tel Aviv University) published his second book, "When and How Was the Land of Israel Invented?", which worth reading.

    Annette Herskovits, PhD, a Holocaust survivor and author, in her recent article, entitled, ‘Nazism, Zionism, and the Arab World‘ (Dissident Voice, May 21, 2012) has debunked several of Israel Hasbara (propaganda) myths about Holocaust, Zionism, Israel and the Arab Muslims.

    “As someone whose mother and father were murdered in Auschwitz, and who herself survived the Nazis’ barbarous nationalism thanks to the courage of a group of Catholics, Protestants, Communists, and Jews, I find the idea that defending the “Jewish state” supersedes all other human obligations both immoral and senseless. Nothing, not even the Holocaust, justifies Israel’s treatment of Palestinians or the continuing efforts of pro-Israel zealots to show Arabs and Muslims as less than human. Israel and its unconditional supporters are on a path leading to catastrophe not only for Palestinians, but in the not very long run, for Israel itself,” wrote Annette.

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/05/30/when-and-how-was-the-land-of-israel-invented/
    , @Max Payne
    I don't know why people have a hard time believing there were 50-100 million native Americans. If the population of Europe was some 70 million at the time, which maintained that level among the ravaging affects of smallpox and the plague as well as the random wars of attrition the white man loves to fight all over Europe (and the Middle East; because some things just don't change) then why wouldn't the natives who seem to live in a more temperate climate and more at peace then Europeans not have such a booming population?

    The UN has suppressed a series of viruses and diseases (such as smallpox) which is allowing us to see a massive African population boost as the vast majority live in conditions much worse than the native Americans of the 1600-1700s.

    Their social structure won't support 10 million? Did they move in one homogeneous horde or something? Because North America is pretty big and there are differing tribes (which I'm sure the majority were just wiped out).
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  31. vinteuil says:
    @Priss Factor
    It goes to show dotkins are lousy fighters.

    Anonymy/Priss/&c&c&c – I’ve got to hand it to you: your inventiveness in coming with new racial slurs never ceases to amaze.

    I think “dotkin” is even funnier than “yelloid.”

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  32. Che Guava says:
    @Priss Factor
    "It has often been stated that slavery is America’s original sin."

    I guess 'genocide' of American Indians doesn't count.

    It always amuses me (in the blackest of humour way) how all of these abolitionists, mainly white, cared so much for the nigra, but did not give a shit for the American Indians, at the time being massively invaded on territories they were supposed to own by treaty.

    It also puzzles me. Brown and his clan were as involved in the invasion as the pro-slavery types he wanted to wipe out.

    Why, if they were so ‘caring’, did they not care about the American Indians?

    I study history when I have the time, from my reading, numerous tribes sided with the Confederacy, none with the Union.

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    "Why, if they were so ‘caring’, did they not care about the American Indians?"

    Hi Che Guava,

    Check out this sentence from Borges:

    In 1517, the Spanish missionary Bartolomé de las Casas, taking great pity on the Indians who were languishing in the hellish workpits of Antillean gold mines, suggested to Charles V, king of Spain, a scheme for importing blacks, so that they might languish in the hellish workpits of Antillean gold mines.

    [from "The Dread Redeemer Lazarus Morell," as translated by Norman Thomas di Giovanni]


    Linh
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  33. Wally says: • Website
    @Priss Factor
    "It has often been stated that slavery is America’s original sin."

    I guess 'genocide' of American Indians doesn't count.

    So then, American Indians were ‘xenophobic / racist’ for resisting European migrants.

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    see:
    Suppressing Jewry’s Role in Slavery / Familiar Tactics

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7909

    and:
    Dr. Tony Martin – The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade

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    And Palestinians were racist for resisting Zionist Jewish migrants. Right?
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  34. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Che Guava
    It always amuses me (in the blackest of humour way) how all of these abolitionists, mainly white, cared so much for the nigra, but did not give a shit for the American Indians, at the time being massively invaded on territories they were supposed to own by treaty.

    It also puzzles me. Brown and his clan were as involved in the invasion as the pro-slavery types he wanted to wipe out.

    Why, if they were so 'caring', did they not care about the American Indians?

    I study history when I have the time, from my reading, numerous tribes sided with the Confederacy, none with the Union.

    “Why, if they were so ‘caring’, did they not care about the American Indians?”

    Hi Che Guava,

    Check out this sentence from Borges:

    In 1517, the Spanish missionary Bartolomé de las Casas, taking great pity on the Indians who were languishing in the hellish workpits of Antillean gold mines, suggested to Charles V, king of Spain, a scheme for importing blacks, so that they might languish in the hellish workpits of Antillean gold mines.

    [from "The Dread Redeemer Lazarus Morell," as translated by Norman Thomas di Giovanni]

    Linh

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    Hello Linh Dinh.

    I thought Borges was a writer of flction?

    Must admit, have read most of Marquez, many others (only in translation), but no Borges. Must do so. Thank you for yet another interesting quote.

    Must sleep now, tomorrow (today) is a national hol., I plan to check a little industrial archaeology and take many good photos. Weather report is clouds, but I think the light may become nice at times.

    Regards, Che.
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  35. Rehmat says:
    @epochehusserl
    The constitution guarantees the right to contract not equality.

    Can you explain that in simple English dude? Or should I assume that you agree with American Jewish ‘intellectual’ Marianne Williamson who says both the US and Israel are not “democratic societies”.

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/08/31/marianne-williamson-israel-is-not-a-democracy/

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  36. Rehmat says:
    @Priss Factor
    "Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery."

    They just did it through thuggery and crime.

    Do you know darling – your tribe had long beaten Blacks in “thuggery and crime”.

    As the westerner media and political leaders glorify a state established and maintained by foreign Jewish terrorists and gangsters – the Jewish Mayor of Las Vegas Carolyn Goodman opened to public The National Museum of Organized Crime and Law Enforcement’ on February 15, 2012, honoring some of America’s most notorious Jewish mobsters. The museum is located in downtown Las Vegas, a city created by crime gangsters. The the project is her husband, the former Mayor of Las Vegas, Oscar Goodman. The museum has already picked a rightful name: the Mob Museum. Watch a video below.

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/04/04/las-vegas-museum-honors-jewish-mobsters/

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  37. Rehmat says:
    @Che Guava
    You are such a bore, a broken record, as other commenters have pointed out.

    Why don't you write a little essay on teachings on enslavement of Kuffars in the Koran and Hadiths?

    About the centuries of Islamic raids on coastal communities as far afield as the British Isles to kidnap slaves? Shame that they didn't elevate the intelligence of middle Eastern populations.

    You may also write about how Islamic traders established the slave-trade from Africa, although this was based on taking advantage of the existing custom of inter-tribal slavery.

    Why not mention the numerous Muslim countries (Saudi Arabia and Pakistan as just two) that still have chattel slavery, or the many (Kuwait and all of the Arab Persian Gulf states, with the possible exception of Yemen) that have cruel systems of indentured labour, tantamount to slavery?

    Predicably, you will never mention any of those things.

    On a note that you would love, the Jewish role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade, Tony Martin has some good research.

    I know, I know….. how boring and terrifying is to read your holy Talmud.

    If you have not read it – get a copy of Israeli historian Israel Shahak’s book, JEWISH RELIGION, JEWISH HISTORY. I’m sure after reading the book you would be able to understand my comments much better.

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    "Che" is just a Zionist Troll, who will never understand what is not in their interest to understand.
    , @Che Guava
    I have a bilingual New Testament and Buddhist scriptures by my bed. Richard Dawkins on evolution, The Ancestor's Tale, I don't like aspects of his writing as literature, style, but very educational, want to re-read most.

    Also, in Japanese only, a book about the Yakuza, and an anti-Alliies war history comic, about the eastern front in Europe.

    Your constant Jew-baiting of people who disagree with your boring and untruthful comments is so dull.

    If I were Jewish, I'd likely be better off than I am, but I am not, and I recognise that tilt as much as many (sure, far from most) Jewish people do. It does not make me cry.

    As other commenters have said, you manage to post your crap on almost every thread, and it is mainly delusional garbage. For every tenth where you make a good point, nine-tenths are pure lies.

    Most of the time, it doesn't even have anything to do with the threads or the article.

    I would posit that you are exactly what you baselessy accuse others of being.

    Hope that you're profiting greatly from your Hazbara career.
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  38. Che Guava says:
    @TJM
    GREAT POST!!!!!!

    So tired of the hyper sterile bull shit we are fed, which ignores the actions of a malicious group, whom refer to themselves as the "tribe". The tribe loves to play the morally superior role, "America's" conscience, yet behind the scenes they work tirelessly dividing the American people, pitting women against men, blacks against whites and Christians against Muslims.

    The tribe certainly controls Wall Street, Hollywood, much of the MSM, and makes up almost HALF of the donations to the two political parties, while making up just 2% of the population. And while they wield incredible power, and certainly have a huge influence of the US government and US society in general, we are NOT ALLOWED to critique what they do with this power. Any question about Jewish power is met with screams of "Antisemitism", even though most of them are NOT Semites aka Arabs).

    BLM is just another divisive devise meant to further erode race relations. So instead of Americans focusing on TPP, or our aggressive stance towards Russia, we focus on this...

    Zionism is the most destructive for in America, and possibly the world. MLK, John Lennon, Malcolm X, JFK, Ganhdi and RFK and the Rev Louis Farrahan, can all attest to this, all great men, and with the exception of one, all assassinated, not a coincidence. Can't have men high love and morals leading America, NO, they insure we get filth like Clinton, Bush and Obama, moral cowards, who will not stand up to their evil.

    So ynu are a rent-a-post from some other site where Rehmat is, at times. Congratulations, you, too are a barely readable fool.

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    Nothing like an insult that you can't is not even legible, seems English is not your first language, stick to sites where you can at least write a complete sentence.
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  39. Rehmat says:
    @epochehusserl
    There were not one hundred million dead native americans. Their social structures wouldn't have supported even 10 million. The largest settlemnts in Illinois had 40000 people in it.

    Idiots like you also believe that Biblical G-d promised Palestine to Khazarian Jews whose ancestors never lived in Palestine for the last 5,000 years.

    In 2012, professor Shlomo Sand (Tel Aviv University) published his second book, “When and How Was the Land of Israel Invented?”, which worth reading.

    Annette Herskovits, PhD, a Holocaust survivor and author, in her recent article, entitled, ‘Nazism, Zionism, and the Arab World‘ (Dissident Voice, May 21, 2012) has debunked several of Israel Hasbara (propaganda) myths about Holocaust, Zionism, Israel and the Arab Muslims.

    “As someone whose mother and father were murdered in Auschwitz, and who herself survived the Nazis’ barbarous nationalism thanks to the courage of a group of Catholics, Protestants, Communists, and Jews, I find the idea that defending the “Jewish state” supersedes all other human obligations both immoral and senseless. Nothing, not even the Holocaust, justifies Israel’s treatment of Palestinians or the continuing efforts of pro-Israel zealots to show Arabs and Muslims as less than human. Israel and its unconditional supporters are on a path leading to catastrophe not only for Palestinians, but in the not very long run, for Israel itself,” wrote Annette.

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/05/30/when-and-how-was-the-land-of-israel-invented/

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    I am not a zionist. Whites get slandered by the jews and the islamists. Isn't multiculturalism grand? Do I have take sides? What about the zillions of other religious and nonreligious threat points? I get slandered for tolerating homosexuality and being homophobic. We need to allow people to organize based upon shared purposes.
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  40. For great insight into inner-city black life, watch the award winning HBO mini-series “The Wire”. It was written by those with police experience in Baltimore, and shows these problems, to include political corruption, police culture, and bureaucracies in action. It is free on Amazon Prime ($99 a year) which is like Netflix but you pay one annual fee rather than monthly, and get free Amazon shipping.

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  41. Che Guava says:
    @Linh Dinh
    "Why, if they were so ‘caring’, did they not care about the American Indians?"

    Hi Che Guava,

    Check out this sentence from Borges:

    In 1517, the Spanish missionary Bartolomé de las Casas, taking great pity on the Indians who were languishing in the hellish workpits of Antillean gold mines, suggested to Charles V, king of Spain, a scheme for importing blacks, so that they might languish in the hellish workpits of Antillean gold mines.

    [from "The Dread Redeemer Lazarus Morell," as translated by Norman Thomas di Giovanni]


    Linh

    Hello Linh Dinh.

    I thought Borges was a writer of flction?

    Must admit, have read most of Marquez, many others (only in translation), but no Borges. Must do so. Thank you for yet another interesting quote.

    Must sleep now, tomorrow (today) is a national hol., I plan to check a little industrial archaeology and take many good photos. Weather report is clouds, but I think the light may become nice at times.

    Regards, Che.

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    Well, I had not known until very recently that Mr. Dinh is a trans-misogynist; here I discover he is a racist as well. And apparently he has a lot of support here, judging from many of the comments. His article avoids the impact of of the systemic racism against African-Americans for four centuries, as if that has had no effect on the behavior/attitudes of African-Americans.

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    WTF is a trans-misogynist? Sounds like a good thing to be, but still.
    , @Linh Dinh
    You're calling me a racist for presenting the thoughts of two great black leaders, one great black scholar and a contemporary black cop. And I'm a "trans-misogynist" for pointing out that a man wearing a dress or minus his penis is still a man.

    I had people like you in mind when I wrote a while back:

    According to a pure leftist [...] if you’re black and living in a white society, then you cannot be guilty of anything, not even of racism, that most basic of human instincts. A black man doesn’t have to overcome his racism, since he can’t even be racist, according to many a leftist brain, but to deny such a moral agency to anyone is to see him as subhuman. One has to be a racist, or just plain stupid, to believe any man incapable of self love.

    , @Jacques Sheete

    His article avoids the impact of of the systemic racism against African-Americans for four centuries, as if that has had no effect on the behavior/attitudes of African-Americans.
     
    I agree with that sentiment. Heck, even Ben Franklin understood that a couple of centuries ago. There is little doubt that we are seeing the lingering effects of persistent destruction of the family, persistently negative bias, and hideous degradation to name some of the evils visited on some folks.

    “Slavery is such an atrocious debasement of human nature, that its very extirpation, if not performed with solicitous care, may sometimes open a source of serious evils.
    The unhappy man, who has long been treated as a brute animal, too frequently sinks beneath the common standard of the human species. The galling chains, that bind his body, do also fetter his intellectual faculties, and impair the social affections of his heart. Accustomed to move like a mere machine, by the will of a master, reflection is suspended; he has not the power of choice; and reason and conscience have but little influence over his conduct, because he is chiefly governed by the passion of fear. He is poor and friendless; perhaps worn out by extreme labor, age, and disease.”

    Ben Franklin, “An Address to the Public from the Pennsylvania Society for Promoting the Abolition of Slavery, and the Relief of Free Negroes unlawfully held in Bondage,” Philadelphia, 9 November, 1789.
    http://oll.libertyfund.org/quotes/545

    , @Kurt van Ghoye
    Burn him!!! (Drool dripping, moral plexus quivering with rage tinged with delight)
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  43. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    OWOP or Obama’s War On Police continues…. in Baton Rouge.

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    I wonder when people's patience with Black Lives Murder will finally run out.
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  44. 5371 says:
    @Anonymous
    Well, I had not known until very recently that Mr. Dinh is a trans-misogynist; here I discover he is a racist as well. And apparently he has a lot of support here, judging from many of the comments. His article avoids the impact of of the systemic racism against African-Americans for four centuries, as if that has had no effect on the behavior/attitudes of African-Americans.

    WTF is a trans-misogynist? Sounds like a good thing to be, but still.

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  45. 5371 says:
    @Priss Factor
    OWOP or Obama's War On Police continues.... in Baton Rouge.

    I wonder when people’s patience with Black Lives Murder will finally run out.

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    Did you put that question to professor Kevin MacDonald? If not, here is the answer ... "When all the Blacks living in the west are Killed."
    , @joef
    Unfortunately peoples patients will never run out with BLM for the foreseeable future. The more BLM complains the more we seem to want to pander to them. People are too distracted with bread and circuses to want to be bothered with making BLM accountable. Additionally they take in their information, without question, from leftist MSM and academia, and are manipulated by self serving politicians in the process. Even if they do recognize the problem they are afraid to even defend themselves against deadly physical force because of political opportunist district attorneys will prosecute them (like Goetz, & Zimmerman).
    In the meantime the BLM afro americans will continue to accelerate the financial burden upon this nation which will eventually resemble the economic stagnation of Japan, Greece, and Venezuela. And we do not get gratitude, but instead rage, while we are trying to provide them benefits that they never worked for.

    Eventually the formula of economic decline plus racial balkanization, caused by pseudo afro american grievances, will detrimentally affect this nation for the worse.When this happens will afro americans declare the race war that they seem to be jonesing for? If you saw scarcity in this country and the welfare / entitlements are interrupted, there is a very good chance the answer is yes (if they are dissatisfied when they get everything, what do you think will happen when they get nothing).
    The most to lose in this type of situation is working blacks who are not part of the BLM agenda because when long term unrest happens their own people will treat them like traitors and other races will have the attitude of shoot first ask questions later out of fear.

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  46. TJM says:
    @Che Guava
    So ynu are a rent-a-post from some other site where Rehmat is, at times. Congratulations, you, too are a barely readable fool.

    Nothing like an insult that you can’t is not even legible, seems English is not your first language, stick to sites where you can at least write a complete sentence.

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    Nothing like an insult that you can’t is [sic] not even legible [sic] , seems English is not your first language , stick to sites where you can at least write a complete sentence.
     
    I would like to be much more insulting to an obvious fool like you, but don't want to pose a dilemna for Unz mods. Sure, English may not be my first language, but I do a hell of a lot better job in the language than you ever will.
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  47. TJM says:
    @Rehmat
    I know, I know..... how boring and terrifying is to read your holy Talmud.

    If you have not read it - get a copy of Israeli historian Israel Shahak's book, JEWISH RELIGION, JEWISH HISTORY. I'm sure after reading the book you would be able to understand my comments much better.

    “Che” is just a Zionist Troll, who will never understand what is not in their interest to understand.

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  48. @Rehmat
    Idiots like you also believe that Biblical G-d promised Palestine to Khazarian Jews whose ancestors never lived in Palestine for the last 5,000 years.

    In 2012, professor Shlomo Sand (Tel Aviv University) published his second book, "When and How Was the Land of Israel Invented?", which worth reading.

    Annette Herskovits, PhD, a Holocaust survivor and author, in her recent article, entitled, ‘Nazism, Zionism, and the Arab World‘ (Dissident Voice, May 21, 2012) has debunked several of Israel Hasbara (propaganda) myths about Holocaust, Zionism, Israel and the Arab Muslims.

    “As someone whose mother and father were murdered in Auschwitz, and who herself survived the Nazis’ barbarous nationalism thanks to the courage of a group of Catholics, Protestants, Communists, and Jews, I find the idea that defending the “Jewish state” supersedes all other human obligations both immoral and senseless. Nothing, not even the Holocaust, justifies Israel’s treatment of Palestinians or the continuing efforts of pro-Israel zealots to show Arabs and Muslims as less than human. Israel and its unconditional supporters are on a path leading to catastrophe not only for Palestinians, but in the not very long run, for Israel itself,” wrote Annette.

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/05/30/when-and-how-was-the-land-of-israel-invented/

    I am not a zionist. Whites get slandered by the jews and the islamists. Isn’t multiculturalism grand? Do I have take sides? What about the zillions of other religious and nonreligious threat points? I get slandered for tolerating homosexuality and being homophobic. We need to allow people to organize based upon shared purposes.

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    LOL.... I didn't know that all the pro-Israel and Zionist AZZ-sucking White folks were Islamists!!

    So you're pro-homosexuality - that's very profitable industry because it's funded by the Organized Jewry.....

    Professor Sarah Schulman (College of Staten Island, New York) is author of 17 books. She is a recipient of Fulbright award and Guggenheim Fellowship. She is an open lesbian and leaders of feminist group within the Gay Rights movement. And to top that all – Schulman is among the 7,000 Jews, who are declared “Self-Hating Israel-Threatening (S.H.I.T)” by the Israel Hasbara Committee.

    Schulman in her latest book, ‘Israel/Palestine and the Queer International’ claims that gay rights movement is mainly funded by Israel and the Jewish multi-billionaire George Soro.

    https://rehmat1.com/2013/08/09/schulman-gay-rights-movement-is-jewish/
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  49. Linh Dinh says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Well, I had not known until very recently that Mr. Dinh is a trans-misogynist; here I discover he is a racist as well. And apparently he has a lot of support here, judging from many of the comments. His article avoids the impact of of the systemic racism against African-Americans for four centuries, as if that has had no effect on the behavior/attitudes of African-Americans.

    You’re calling me a racist for presenting the thoughts of two great black leaders, one great black scholar and a contemporary black cop. And I’m a “trans-misogynist” for pointing out that a man wearing a dress or minus his penis is still a man.

    I had people like you in mind when I wrote a while back:

    According to a pure leftist [...] if you’re black and living in a white society, then you cannot be guilty of anything, not even of racism, that most basic of human instincts. A black man doesn’t have to overcome his racism, since he can’t even be racist, according to many a leftist brain, but to deny such a moral agency to anyone is to see him as subhuman. One has to be a racist, or just plain stupid, to believe any man incapable of self love.

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    No, I'm the only true race-ist.

    Race-ism is the fiber that holds a race together.

    Lose race-ism, then you shall lose your race.
    , @Rehmat
    Stop whining Mr. DINH .....

    The three greatest Afro-African leaders of modern day in America have been Rev. Martin Luther King, Malcolm X and the Champ Muhammad Ali. All of them were target of White and Jewish racism. The first two were assassinated by the FBI being a threat to American establishment and the third died recently of natural causes.

    Chris Hedges, though, claimed Malcolm X understood the nature of American nation far better than the other two.

    “Malcolm X, unlike Martin Luther King Jr., did not believe America had a conscience. For him there was no great tension between the lofty ideals of the nation—which he said were a sham—and the failure to deliver justice to blacks. He, perhaps better than King, understood the inner workings of empire. He had no hope that those who managed empire would ever get in touch with their better selves to build a country free of exploitation and injustice,” Chris Hedges says at Truthdig on February 1, 2015.

    King, like Barack Obama, was a product of Jewish money. Both are the “Black Front” of Zionism. King’s image was pampered by the Organized Jewry through media and Black lawmakers as a counterbalance to the rising influence of Nation of Islam, Malcolm and Imam Waris Deen Muhammad, son of the Founder of Nation of Islam, Elijah Muhammad....

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/02/04/hedges-malcolm-x-understood-the-us-better-than-dr-king/
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  50. Che Guava says:
    @Rehmat
    I know, I know..... how boring and terrifying is to read your holy Talmud.

    If you have not read it - get a copy of Israeli historian Israel Shahak's book, JEWISH RELIGION, JEWISH HISTORY. I'm sure after reading the book you would be able to understand my comments much better.

    I have a bilingual New Testament and Buddhist scriptures by my bed. Richard Dawkins on evolution, The Ancestor’s Tale, I don’t like aspects of his writing as literature, style, but very educational, want to re-read most.

    Also, in Japanese only, a book about the Yakuza, and an anti-Alliies war history comic, about the eastern front in Europe.

    Your constant Jew-baiting of people who disagree with your boring and untruthful comments is so dull.

    If I were Jewish, I’d likely be better off than I am, but I am not, and I recognise that tilt as much as many (sure, far from most) Jewish people do. It does not make me cry.

    As other commenters have said, you manage to post your crap on almost every thread, and it is mainly delusional garbage. For every tenth where you make a good point, nine-tenths are pure lies.

    Most of the time, it doesn’t even have anything to do with the threads or the article.

    I would posit that you are exactly what you baselessy accuse others of being.

    Hope that you’re profiting greatly from your Hazbara career.

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  51. @Anonymous
    Well, I had not known until very recently that Mr. Dinh is a trans-misogynist; here I discover he is a racist as well. And apparently he has a lot of support here, judging from many of the comments. His article avoids the impact of of the systemic racism against African-Americans for four centuries, as if that has had no effect on the behavior/attitudes of African-Americans.

    His article avoids the impact of of the systemic racism against African-Americans for four centuries, as if that has had no effect on the behavior/attitudes of African-Americans.

    I agree with that sentiment. Heck, even Ben Franklin understood that a couple of centuries ago. There is little doubt that we are seeing the lingering effects of persistent destruction of the family, persistently negative bias, and hideous degradation to name some of the evils visited on some folks.

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    “Slavery is such an atrocious debasement of human nature, that its very extirpation, if not performed with solicitous care, may sometimes open a source of serious evils.
    The unhappy man, who has long been treated as a brute animal, too frequently sinks beneath the common standard of the human species. The galling chains, that bind his body, do also fetter his intellectual faculties, and impair the social affections of his heart. Accustomed to move like a mere machine, by the will of a master, reflection is suspended; he has not the power of choice; and reason and conscience have but little influence over his conduct, because he is chiefly governed by the passion of fear. He is poor and friendless; perhaps worn out by extreme labor, age, and disease.”

    Ben Franklin, “An Address to the Public from the Pennsylvania Society for Promoting the Abolition of Slavery, and the Relief of Free Negroes unlawfully held in Bondage,” Philadelphia, 9 November, 1789.

    http://oll.libertyfund.org/quotes/545

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    even Ben Franklin understood that a couple of centuries ago
     
    Ben Franklin referred to the effects on those who were themselves slaves. I doubt anyone would seriously challenge the assertion that one born into slavery and only emancipated in middle age would suffer ill effects for the remainder of his life. But what has this to do with anyone alive today?

    Any negro alive today is likely to have spent the majority (if not the entirety) of his life as a super privileged class with preferred legal status for education, jobs, and myriad government handouts. Negroes whine about slavery of ancestors (whom they cannot even name) ten generations ago because said whining is like a giant lever holding back the spigot of white owned resources. The louder the negro whines, the more goodies stupid whites shovel toward him. Negroes whose forebears came to America after Emancipation can cry "slavery!" and expect whites whose ancestors came to America after the First World War to fork over their savings account and keys to their daughters' chastity belts. Negroes are such fragile creatures that they can never face even the mildest criticism for their social, academic, and economic failures.

    Every human population has, at one time or another, been enslaved. A vast and growing number of Americans are fed up with the failures and criminality of the American negro. Our fastest growing demographics, mestizos and East Asians, have no tolerance whatever for negro dysfunction. I have for decades encouraged others to study the negroes' habits in his native environment of Africa. As more and more video becomes easily available online, it is just that much easier to see how the behavior of negroes in America closely resembles negro behavior in the Congo. Genetic science too is proving that social behaviors are, like intelligence and physical attributes, at least 50% rooted in DNA.

    Over a century ago the leading negro intellects noted that the "Talented Tenth" of their race could be improved and assimilated to western civilization. That ratio seems unchanged today. The question we've avoided for so long will very soon demand an answer. What are we to do with the untalented 90%? When half your population has an IQ ceiling of 85, what possible productive role can you play in 21st Century? White guilt is becoming a dry well and negro fatigue is setting in among all other races both in America and globally. Assuming it's too late to repatriate all negroes to Africa and treat them with a hands-off policy as we with with Andamanese and other "uncontacted" peoples, what are our options?
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  52. Rehmat says:
    @epochehusserl
    I am not a zionist. Whites get slandered by the jews and the islamists. Isn't multiculturalism grand? Do I have take sides? What about the zillions of other religious and nonreligious threat points? I get slandered for tolerating homosexuality and being homophobic. We need to allow people to organize based upon shared purposes.

    LOL…. I didn’t know that all the pro-Israel and Zionist AZZ-sucking White folks were Islamists!!

    So you’re pro-homosexuality – that’s very profitable industry because it’s funded by the Organized Jewry…..

    Professor Sarah Schulman (College of Staten Island, New York) is author of 17 books. She is a recipient of Fulbright award and Guggenheim Fellowship. She is an open lesbian and leaders of feminist group within the Gay Rights movement. And to top that all – Schulman is among the 7,000 Jews, who are declared “Self-Hating Israel-Threatening (S.H.I.T)” by the Israel Hasbara Committee.

    Schulman in her latest book, ‘Israel/Palestine and the Queer International’ claims that gay rights movement is mainly funded by Israel and the Jewish multi-billionaire George Soro.

    https://rehmat1.com/2013/08/09/schulman-gay-rights-movement-is-jewish/

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  53. Rehmat says:
    @5371
    I wonder when people's patience with Black Lives Murder will finally run out.

    Did you put that question to professor Kevin MacDonald? If not, here is the answer … “When all the Blacks living in the west are Killed.”

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  54. joef says:
    @5371
    I wonder when people's patience with Black Lives Murder will finally run out.

    Unfortunately peoples patients will never run out with BLM for the foreseeable future. The more BLM complains the more we seem to want to pander to them. People are too distracted with bread and circuses to want to be bothered with making BLM accountable. Additionally they take in their information, without question, from leftist MSM and academia, and are manipulated by self serving politicians in the process. Even if they do recognize the problem they are afraid to even defend themselves against deadly physical force because of political opportunist district attorneys will prosecute them (like Goetz, & Zimmerman).
    In the meantime the BLM afro americans will continue to accelerate the financial burden upon this nation which will eventually resemble the economic stagnation of Japan, Greece, and Venezuela. And we do not get gratitude, but instead rage, while we are trying to provide them benefits that they never worked for.

    Eventually the formula of economic decline plus racial balkanization, caused by pseudo afro american grievances, will detrimentally affect this nation for the worse.When this happens will afro americans declare the race war that they seem to be jonesing for? If you saw scarcity in this country and the welfare / entitlements are interrupted, there is a very good chance the answer is yes (if they are dissatisfied when they get everything, what do you think will happen when they get nothing).
    The most to lose in this type of situation is working blacks who are not part of the BLM agenda because when long term unrest happens their own people will treat them like traitors and other races will have the attitude of shoot first ask questions later out of fear.

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    BLM got one thing right though.

    Black American problems are IN America.

    BLM goes about it stupidly, but at least Black Americans are not so worked up about Russia, Iran, Middle East, and Israel.

    Blacks are into their own racial issues in the US.

    In contrast, white Americans face so many problems IN America, but they are so emotionally involved with Israel(defend Israel!!!!!), Russia(new cold war!!!!), Iran(New Nazi Germany!!!), North Korea(it will nuke us!!!!), and etc.

    Notice that Dallas and Baton Rouge killers served in the US military. They didn't want to go to Middle East and kill Muslims. They figure that their real enemies are in the US.

    Well, white Americans should think likewise. That AMERICAN SNIPER dummy was a real dummy, going over there to kill Muslims when it is blacks who are robbing, raping, and murdering whites. Worse, black men are colonizing white wombs of women who've turned race traitor.

    Blacks are nuts, but they got one thing right. Their problems are IN America.

    The War must be won IN AMERICA.
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  55. CCZ says:

    From “Democracy Now” network, July 15, 2016

    Meet Yale Dishwasher Corey Menafee, former general services assistant for eight years in Yale University’s food service department, who “Smashed Racist Stained-Glass Window.”

    “In June, he broke a stained-glass window depicting enslaved Africans carrying cotton. This week the university announced it dropped its charges against him.

    As Black Lives Matter protests have swept the country in recent weeks, we end today’s show with the story of one dishwasher at Yale University who has decided to take the university’s history of racism into his own hands—or his own broomstick, in this case. Corey Menafee worked for Yale for about eight years. In June, as he was cleaning a dining room in Yale’s residential dorm Calhoun College, Menafee stood on top of a table and used a broomstick to break a stained-glass window depicting enslaved Africans carrying bales of cotton. Menafee said the image is racist and degrading and that he had become sick of seeing it every day.”

    I guess that we should all be thankful that at least he didn’t shoot anyone.

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  56. We’ve been hearing the same arguments about race over and over and over again, going back at least to the late Fifties and the beginnings of the civil rights movement. Blacks have represented the proverbial noose around the collective neck of White America for nearly 300 years. In 1619 a Dutch ship commandeered a Spanish ship carrying West African slaves. 19 were brought on board the Dutch vessel which then sailed to Virginia Colony and up the James River to Jamestown where they deposited them at the dock. In 2016 we will “celebrate” the 300th anniversary of this event. That “noose”, referred to above, was one which was fastened by the hands of white men—and in fairness, it has to be said that the Negro Problem is one which white men brought on themselves.

    If race is America’s Achilles Heel–and I fear that it is–just remember that it started 300 years ago when a Dutch ship captain sailed up the James River with 19 enslaved souls.

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    None of us owned slaves, and the majority of us do not have ancestors who owned slaves or were slave traders. Most of our ancestors probably existed in poverty that makes current afro american pseudo poverty laughable.

    In our current circumstances the only people who are placing the noose around Americas head is the leftist. They are empowering afro american BLM hatred which is causing the balkanization of this nation. And to what end? If they are justifying shooting armed and trained cops, and are not fearful of the law, where is the deterrence to do it to the rest of America.

    BLM afro american radicals would not mind a national situation where its open season on non blacks where they are no longer deterred or held accountable for it. To them its pay back time, and its not something to be remorseful about, but to celebrate.

    Many libs think they are immune from this because they believe that a BLM afro american radical will recognize that 'they are the good white people'. Libs are truly pathologically naive to the fact that many afro americans make judgements exclusively based on racial hatred and killing one non black is as good as another (and they even kill each other because they casually use extreme violence on a semi routine basis).

    Blaming whitey is not appeasing BLM, its just making their bloodlust grow, while leftist demand the rest of us to be willing victims.

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  57. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website
    @Linh Dinh
    You're calling me a racist for presenting the thoughts of two great black leaders, one great black scholar and a contemporary black cop. And I'm a "trans-misogynist" for pointing out that a man wearing a dress or minus his penis is still a man.

    I had people like you in mind when I wrote a while back:

    According to a pure leftist [...] if you’re black and living in a white society, then you cannot be guilty of anything, not even of racism, that most basic of human instincts. A black man doesn’t have to overcome his racism, since he can’t even be racist, according to many a leftist brain, but to deny such a moral agency to anyone is to see him as subhuman. One has to be a racist, or just plain stupid, to believe any man incapable of self love.

    No, I’m the only true race-ist.

    Race-ism is the fiber that holds a race together.

    Lose race-ism, then you shall lose your race.

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  58. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website
    @joef
    Unfortunately peoples patients will never run out with BLM for the foreseeable future. The more BLM complains the more we seem to want to pander to them. People are too distracted with bread and circuses to want to be bothered with making BLM accountable. Additionally they take in their information, without question, from leftist MSM and academia, and are manipulated by self serving politicians in the process. Even if they do recognize the problem they are afraid to even defend themselves against deadly physical force because of political opportunist district attorneys will prosecute them (like Goetz, & Zimmerman).
    In the meantime the BLM afro americans will continue to accelerate the financial burden upon this nation which will eventually resemble the economic stagnation of Japan, Greece, and Venezuela. And we do not get gratitude, but instead rage, while we are trying to provide them benefits that they never worked for.

    Eventually the formula of economic decline plus racial balkanization, caused by pseudo afro american grievances, will detrimentally affect this nation for the worse.When this happens will afro americans declare the race war that they seem to be jonesing for? If you saw scarcity in this country and the welfare / entitlements are interrupted, there is a very good chance the answer is yes (if they are dissatisfied when they get everything, what do you think will happen when they get nothing).
    The most to lose in this type of situation is working blacks who are not part of the BLM agenda because when long term unrest happens their own people will treat them like traitors and other races will have the attitude of shoot first ask questions later out of fear.

    BLM got one thing right though.

    Black American problems are IN America.

    BLM goes about it stupidly, but at least Black Americans are not so worked up about Russia, Iran, Middle East, and Israel.

    Blacks are into their own racial issues in the US.

    In contrast, white Americans face so many problems IN America, but they are so emotionally involved with Israel(defend Israel!!!!!), Russia(new cold war!!!!), Iran(New Nazi Germany!!!), North Korea(it will nuke us!!!!), and etc.

    Notice that Dallas and Baton Rouge killers served in the US military. They didn’t want to go to Middle East and kill Muslims. They figure that their real enemies are in the US.

    Well, white Americans should think likewise. That AMERICAN SNIPER dummy was a real dummy, going over there to kill Muslims when it is blacks who are robbing, raping, and murdering whites. Worse, black men are colonizing white wombs of women who’ve turned race traitor.

    Blacks are nuts, but they got one thing right. Their problems are IN America.

    The War must be won IN AMERICA.

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  59. Jay says:
    @Epaminondas
    Tony, the reason the American colonies began to flourish in the late 17th century was because of the surging exports of rice, indigo, and tobacco. These crops were planted largely in VA and the Carolinas. But it was impossible to get Europeans to move to those climates in large numbers. The climate in the growing season is simply too hot and the backbreaking work of manual labor in temperatures reaching the mid-90s on a daily basis was simply more than a person of Northern European origin was willing to face. Most of the early yeoman colonists moved into the highlands to escape the heat. But those were small, subsistence farms. Between fighting off hostile Cherokee and trying to keep their crops growing, there was little time left for creating plantations full of black slaves. That enterprise was a result of the English banking system and plenty of flat, fertile coastal land. And that's where the money crops came in. Because of the enormous wealth generated by those cash crops, America prospered to the point that it could face down the British a hundred years later. Not a small achievement.

    Your comment is total bull. Despite their wealth, lowland South Carolinians were defeated by the British in May, 1780, and Charlestown surrendered. Cornwallis’s mobile British army was driven out of South Carolina and North Carolina by upcountry, that is Scots-Irish militia, in two major battles: Kings Mountain and Cowpens. And in dozens of smaller fights like Ramsour’s Mill, Musgrove’s Mill, Houck’s Defeat, Blackstock’s Plantation. The upcountry militia also contributed to the decimation of Cornwallis’s army at Guilford Courthouse. His next stop was Yorktown.

    The rice and indigo crops of the Lowlands did not pay for these victories. The blood and ferocity of the upcountry militias paid that debt.

    Finally, the Scots-Irish settlers of the upcountry (hardly “highland”) Carolinas did not arrive from the lowlands as you portray. They came down the Great Valley of Virginia from Pennsylvania and Maryland, and earlier from Ulster.

    You are quite a purveyor of misinformation.

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  60. Linh Dinh says: • Website

    Ashleigh Shackelford’s “For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests”:

    […]

    Nothing you have is yours. Let me be clear: Nothing you have is yours. Also, Let me be see through: Reparations are not donations, because we are not your charity, tax write off, or good deed for the day. You are living off of stolen resources, stolen land, exploited labor, appropriated culture and the murder of our people. Nothing you have is yours.

    Reparations for us are not only necessary because we are economically harmed, exploited and stolen from — while the violence against us is never acknowledged — but because in order for us to create and move work for Black liberation, it requires resources and MONEY. We live in a white supremacist capitalist world, so ain’t no spinning webs of lies around “money isn’t the answer.” It is because money and exploitation and power are interconnected concepts of violence. Y’all spent hundreds of years selling, mutilating, raping and beating our bodies and labor but you think money doesn’t matter to our freedom and liberation? Cute. Write me a check for this shade because it comes with 400 years of trauma.

    We need housing, transportation, food, clothes, free space for meetings and work space; we need laptops, cell phones, encrypted systems for communication, solar power and LAND. Stop playing. Y’all really thought pulling up to the protest in your Hyundai was gonna be enough? Nah. You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable. So if you’re not willing to talk money, you are not here for #BlackLivesMatter as a movement or for us as individuals.

    […]

    Sample comments:

    Gabriela Sonam–Swedish Institute College of Health Science
    Thank you, for this Ashleigh. This is important and I will seriously and repeatedly reflect on what you’ve said here as I continue to try to participate in the least oppressive and most useful ways I can. I see much of what you write about here, white people at rallies talking about their date last night or their upsoming vacation. It appalls me, embarrasses me, and I see it as my problem to deal with. I routinely tell white people at rallies and even VIGILS to stop talking and listen…they tend to react with snotty contempt, it’s exasperating. I carry a sign that says “stop talking” on on the back so I can hold it up in front of people who need to shut up. I understand some of why my/our presence at rallies is not necessarily comfortable, I try and will try harder to demonstrate humility, and I will continue to respond with empathy and deferrence when I’m with grieving Black people are not feeling safe in my presence. I will share this widely as well. Your transparency/see-throughness is aprreciated, I’m trying to comprehend all the pain and anger and grief infused in your words. I am willing to die for justice and reparations for Black people, in the mean time while I’m living, I want to be as efffective as an activist as I can. I am aware that I am nowhere near as effective or useful as I hope to be, I’ve been showing upto rallies and vigils for Black people lynched by police for over 30 years, and the depravity coninues, I am searching for ways to do more than show up. At this point my answer is to double and redouble my efforts to call out, call in, and try to educate white people on how to at least be less oppressive. I doesn’t feel like enough, but it’s what I’ve figured out to do. I am not hopeful, I fight despair with action. Your words here will be a guide for me. Respectfully, Gabriela

    Kiril Gantchev–Chief Executive Officer at Loanbase
    Gabriela, how dare you even say the stuff that you say? You and your white family are in possession of stolen money, property and wealth… all of it stolen from black people, and you’re here to provide your “support in the least oppressive way?” What kind of immoral person even does this? Imagine that you just robbed a bank and you went to a meeting of all the people whose accounts you emptied, then you tell them that you’re there to support them, but will keep all the money you stole!? So if you REALLY want to help, give all of your white family’s money, property and wealth to a black organization.

    Gabriela Sonam–Swedish Institute College of Health Science
    Kiril Gantchev I live on $636/month social security disability + food stamps. I have no family except for my children neither of whom is white or wealthy or privileged. I have been fighting police brutality for over 30 years, longer than you look like you have been alive, and I will continue until I die. I have taken police batons to the head in this fight. When you make stereotyped assumptions about people you are often wrong. I can see you are a garden variety jerk, and nothing more than a silly troll. Get a life.

    Kiril Gantchev–Chief Executive Officer at Loanbase
    Gabriela Sonam You’re the daily recepient of white priviledge. Even your social security, disability and food stamps are the result of white priviledge. There are plenty of blacks in America who deserve it more than you do, and probably can’t get it, because the white patriarchy is oppressing them. I came to this country less than 20 years ago, from a country which was enslaved by the Islamic Caliphate for 500 years: my people were forced to pay, convert or die, merely to survive for 500 years. So maybe you should check your assumptions, before you try to assume anything about me. Now I come here and I have to “check my priviledge”, because I pass for white people like you? There will be no justice until there are reparations for the injustice!

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    If this were parody, it would be first rate.

    Is "ethno-masochistic-cannibalism" a word?
    , @Priss Factor
    Okay Negro. White folks will give you lots of Money. Just go back to Africa.

    Reparation and Repatriation.
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  61. joef says:
    @Connecticut Famer
    We've been hearing the same arguments about race over and over and over again, going back at least to the late Fifties and the beginnings of the civil rights movement. Blacks have represented the proverbial noose around the collective neck of White America for nearly 300 years. In 1619 a Dutch ship commandeered a Spanish ship carrying West African slaves. 19 were brought on board the Dutch vessel which then sailed to Virginia Colony and up the James River to Jamestown where they deposited them at the dock. In 2016 we will "celebrate" the 300th anniversary of this event. That "noose", referred to above, was one which was fastened by the hands of white men---and in fairness, it has to be said that the Negro Problem is one which white men brought on themselves.

    If race is America's Achilles Heel--and I fear that it is--just remember that it started 300 years ago when a Dutch ship captain sailed up the James River with 19 enslaved souls.

    None of us owned slaves, and the majority of us do not have ancestors who owned slaves or were slave traders. Most of our ancestors probably existed in poverty that makes current afro american pseudo poverty laughable.

    In our current circumstances the only people who are placing the noose around Americas head is the leftist. They are empowering afro american BLM hatred which is causing the balkanization of this nation. And to what end? If they are justifying shooting armed and trained cops, and are not fearful of the law, where is the deterrence to do it to the rest of America.

    BLM afro american radicals would not mind a national situation where its open season on non blacks where they are no longer deterred or held accountable for it. To them its pay back time, and its not something to be remorseful about, but to celebrate.

    Many libs think they are immune from this because they believe that a BLM afro american radical will recognize that ‘they are the good white people’. Libs are truly pathologically naive to the fact that many afro americans make judgements exclusively based on racial hatred and killing one non black is as good as another (and they even kill each other because they casually use extreme violence on a semi routine basis).

    Blaming whitey is not appeasing BLM, its just making their bloodlust grow, while leftist demand the rest of us to be willing victims.

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  62. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    White Pride has been banned in the West by PC or PW(political worship of Jews, homos, and Negroes).

    Whites can only have pride as cuckish do-gooders onto other people.

    Whites can’t feel pride as whites. They can only feel pride as whites serving non-whites.

    Instead of WHITE PRIDE, there is only WHITE PROVIDE.

    WHITES must PROVIDE welfare, food, medicine, shelter, clothing, and everything under the sun for Muslims and Africans who keep having babies like rabbits.

    It is time to reverse this trend. White Pride, NOT White Provide.

    This is especially true when so many white people are lost in drugs, tattoos, piercing, broken families, interracism, degenerate culture, and suicide.

    WHITE PRIDE, not WHITE PROVIDE.
    WHITE PRIDE, not WHITE SUICIDE.

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  63. KenH says:
    @Rehmat
    Nyeth DINH - slavery was abolished 151 years ago on paper. It exited in United states until the 1970s.

    Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery.

    Afro-American demands "equal rights" because that's what American Constitution lies about.

    Half-White half-African Barack Obama was given Nobel Peace as a ploy to wage more wars against non-Whites which was not surprising as many of earlier recipients of this award included Zionist Jew war criminals.

    How many American historians remember Black Muslim slaves like Yarrow Mamout who was brought in chains from Guinea to Maryland in 1752? He won his freedom in 1796 and four year later purchased property on today's Dent Place in Georgetown where John Kerry lives blocks away.

    How about Champ Muhammad Ali the most famous American in the history of the country established over the dead bodies of over 100 million American Natives.

    Late Muhammad Ali was not a politician, academic or an Islamic cleric. He was a sportsman since his childhood. So why the Organized Jewry hates him? Well, it’s basically rooted in Jewish hatred of Blacks and major Jewish role in African slavery – and Muhammad Ali’s former links with Nation of Islam, particularly its leader Louis Farrakhan.

    It’s no secret that most of major sports leagues and international sports bodies are controlled by Jewish elites. I remember how much mess the Jewish-controlled media made when Shahid Khan became the very first Muslim owner of a major NFL team in December 2011.....

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/04/29/muhammad-ali-still-chased-by-jewish-lobby/

    Blacks never established fascists organizations like KKK to kill and terrorize White Christians or Jews who monopolized the Black slavery.

    Incorrect. A radical faction within the Nation of Islam, the fruit of Islam, began targeting and killing whites in California in the late 1960′s and 1970′s. These came to be known as the Zebra killings. Some were tortured in gruesome fashion. While there were only about two dozen official victims, police believe several hundred cases were related to this murderous group and its virulently anti-white ideology. Suggest you read Zebra by Clark Howard.

    Some black gangs have initiation rites that include killing or committing a crime against a white person. Black men rape 15k to 40k white women annually. 90% of interracial crimes are black on white.

    Afro-American demands “equal rights” because that’s what American Constitution lies about.

    Incorrect again. The American nation was not founded on racial equality and at the time of its founding and for a long time thereafter citizenship was restricted to “free, white persons”, and immigration was limited to “white persons of good character”. Abe Lincoln wanted to resettle the freed black slaves to Central America and Africa, specifically Liberia.

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  64. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website
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    Very surprised that HuffPost did not berate and criticize the project because ALL eleven dogs were golden retrievers, not a single black lab among them. What about Black Labs Matter??
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  65. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiit!!!!

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  66. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Linh Dinh
    Ashleigh Shackelford’s “For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests”:

    […]

    Nothing you have is yours. Let me be clear: Nothing you have is yours. Also, Let me be see through: Reparations are not donations, because we are not your charity, tax write off, or good deed for the day. You are living off of stolen resources, stolen land, exploited labor, appropriated culture and the murder of our people. Nothing you have is yours.

    Reparations for us are not only necessary because we are economically harmed, exploited and stolen from — while the violence against us is never acknowledged — but because in order for us to create and move work for Black liberation, it requires resources and MONEY. We live in a white supremacist capitalist world, so ain’t no spinning webs of lies around “money isn’t the answer.” It is because money and exploitation and power are interconnected concepts of violence. Y’all spent hundreds of years selling, mutilating, raping and beating our bodies and labor but you think money doesn’t matter to our freedom and liberation? Cute. Write me a check for this shade because it comes with 400 years of trauma.

    We need housing, transportation, food, clothes, free space for meetings and work space; we need laptops, cell phones, encrypted systems for communication, solar power and LAND. Stop playing. Y’all really thought pulling up to the protest in your Hyundai was gonna be enough? Nah. You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable. So if you’re not willing to talk money, you are not here for #BlackLivesMatter as a movement or for us as individuals.

    […]

    Sample comments:

    Gabriela Sonam--Swedish Institute College of Health Science
    Thank you, for this Ashleigh. This is important and I will seriously and repeatedly reflect on what you've said here as I continue to try to participate in the least oppressive and most useful ways I can. I see much of what you write about here, white people at rallies talking about their date last night or their upsoming vacation. It appalls me, embarrasses me, and I see it as my problem to deal with. I routinely tell white people at rallies and even VIGILS to stop talking and listen...they tend to react with snotty contempt, it's exasperating. I carry a sign that says "stop talking" on on the back so I can hold it up in front of people who need to shut up. I understand some of why my/our presence at rallies is not necessarily comfortable, I try and will try harder to demonstrate humility, and I will continue to respond with empathy and deferrence when I'm with grieving Black people are not feeling safe in my presence. I will share this widely as well. Your transparency/see-throughness is aprreciated, I'm trying to comprehend all the pain and anger and grief infused in your words. I am willing to die for justice and reparations for Black people, in the mean time while I'm living, I want to be as efffective as an activist as I can. I am aware that I am nowhere near as effective or useful as I hope to be, I've been showing upto rallies and vigils for Black people lynched by police for over 30 years, and the depravity coninues, I am searching for ways to do more than show up. At this point my answer is to double and redouble my efforts to call out, call in, and try to educate white people on how to at least be less oppressive. I doesn't feel like enough, but it's what I've figured out to do. I am not hopeful, I fight despair with action. Your words here will be a guide for me. Respectfully, Gabriela


    Kiril Gantchev--Chief Executive Officer at Loanbase
    Gabriela, how dare you even say the stuff that you say? You and your white family are in possession of stolen money, property and wealth... all of it stolen from black people, and you're here to provide your "support in the least oppressive way?" What kind of immoral person even does this? Imagine that you just robbed a bank and you went to a meeting of all the people whose accounts you emptied, then you tell them that you're there to support them, but will keep all the money you stole!? So if you REALLY want to help, give all of your white family's money, property and wealth to a black organization.


    Gabriela Sonam--Swedish Institute College of Health Science
    Kiril Gantchev I live on $636/month social security disability + food stamps. I have no family except for my children neither of whom is white or wealthy or privileged. I have been fighting police brutality for over 30 years, longer than you look like you have been alive, and I will continue until I die. I have taken police batons to the head in this fight. When you make stereotyped assumptions about people you are often wrong. I can see you are a garden variety jerk, and nothing more than a silly troll. Get a life.


    Kiril Gantchev--Chief Executive Officer at Loanbase
    Gabriela Sonam You're the daily recepient of white priviledge. Even your social security, disability and food stamps are the result of white priviledge. There are plenty of blacks in America who deserve it more than you do, and probably can't get it, because the white patriarchy is oppressing them. I came to this country less than 20 years ago, from a country which was enslaved by the Islamic Caliphate for 500 years: my people were forced to pay, convert or die, merely to survive for 500 years. So maybe you should check your assumptions, before you try to assume anything about me. Now I come here and I have to "check my priviledge", because I pass for white people like you? There will be no justice until there are reparations for the injustice!

    If this were parody, it would be first rate.

    Is “ethno-masochistic-cannibalism” a word?

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  67. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    During Obama’s presidency, there’s been a reduction of urban crime and increase of black rage.

    Why?

    Because the two things are interrelated.

    Because, in order to revive big cities, there was a need for increased policing. That led to more tensions between cops and blacks.

    Urban Progs want to have the cake and eat it too. They want more policing to clamp down on black crime to make cities safer, but they also want to chant PC slogans that inflame black rage about Police Brutality.
    Progs want police to get tougher on blacks but also virtue-signal by making pro-black noises.

    But ‘political brutality’ is the result of policies pushed by Urban Libs who want safer cities that maintain order by getting tough on blacks, the biggest predators in America.

    There is also increased tension between blacks and police departments in smaller towns and suburbs due to Section 8.
    A lot of these communities used to be relatively crime free, and cops there aren’t used to dealing with black pathology.
    But the sudden arrival of urban blacks leads to all sorts of problems.
    Ferguson, a once white suburb that turned black so very fast is a good example.

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  68. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website
    @Linh Dinh
    Ashleigh Shackelford’s “For White People Who Want to Attend #BlackLivesMatter Protests”:

    […]

    Nothing you have is yours. Let me be clear: Nothing you have is yours. Also, Let me be see through: Reparations are not donations, because we are not your charity, tax write off, or good deed for the day. You are living off of stolen resources, stolen land, exploited labor, appropriated culture and the murder of our people. Nothing you have is yours.

    Reparations for us are not only necessary because we are economically harmed, exploited and stolen from — while the violence against us is never acknowledged — but because in order for us to create and move work for Black liberation, it requires resources and MONEY. We live in a white supremacist capitalist world, so ain’t no spinning webs of lies around “money isn’t the answer.” It is because money and exploitation and power are interconnected concepts of violence. Y’all spent hundreds of years selling, mutilating, raping and beating our bodies and labor but you think money doesn’t matter to our freedom and liberation? Cute. Write me a check for this shade because it comes with 400 years of trauma.

    We need housing, transportation, food, clothes, free space for meetings and work space; we need laptops, cell phones, encrypted systems for communication, solar power and LAND. Stop playing. Y’all really thought pulling up to the protest in your Hyundai was gonna be enough? Nah. You have to give us everything we need and more, because even if it means you go without — it doesn’t matter because that’s how we been living for 400+ years. Reparations will never be negotiable. So if you’re not willing to talk money, you are not here for #BlackLivesMatter as a movement or for us as individuals.

    […]

    Sample comments:

    Gabriela Sonam--Swedish Institute College of Health Science
    Thank you, for this Ashleigh. This is important and I will seriously and repeatedly reflect on what you've said here as I continue to try to participate in the least oppressive and most useful ways I can. I see much of what you write about here, white people at rallies talking about their date last night or their upsoming vacation. It appalls me, embarrasses me, and I see it as my problem to deal with. I routinely tell white people at rallies and even VIGILS to stop talking and listen...they tend to react with snotty contempt, it's exasperating. I carry a sign that says "stop talking" on on the back so I can hold it up in front of people who need to shut up. I understand some of why my/our presence at rallies is not necessarily comfortable, I try and will try harder to demonstrate humility, and I will continue to respond with empathy and deferrence when I'm with grieving Black people are not feeling safe in my presence. I will share this widely as well. Your transparency/see-throughness is aprreciated, I'm trying to comprehend all the pain and anger and grief infused in your words. I am willing to die for justice and reparations for Black people, in the mean time while I'm living, I want to be as efffective as an activist as I can. I am aware that I am nowhere near as effective or useful as I hope to be, I've been showing upto rallies and vigils for Black people lynched by police for over 30 years, and the depravity coninues, I am searching for ways to do more than show up. At this point my answer is to double and redouble my efforts to call out, call in, and try to educate white people on how to at least be less oppressive. I doesn't feel like enough, but it's what I've figured out to do. I am not hopeful, I fight despair with action. Your words here will be a guide for me. Respectfully, Gabriela


    Kiril Gantchev--Chief Executive Officer at Loanbase
    Gabriela, how dare you even say the stuff that you say? You and your white family are in possession of stolen money, property and wealth... all of it stolen from black people, and you're here to provide your "support in the least oppressive way?" What kind of immoral person even does this? Imagine that you just robbed a bank and you went to a meeting of all the people whose accounts you emptied, then you tell them that you're there to support them, but will keep all the money you stole!? So if you REALLY want to help, give all of your white family's money, property and wealth to a black organization.


    Gabriela Sonam--Swedish Institute College of Health Science
    Kiril Gantchev I live on $636/month social security disability + food stamps. I have no family except for my children neither of whom is white or wealthy or privileged. I have been fighting police brutality for over 30 years, longer than you look like you have been alive, and I will continue until I die. I have taken police batons to the head in this fight. When you make stereotyped assumptions about people you are often wrong. I can see you are a garden variety jerk, and nothing more than a silly troll. Get a life.


    Kiril Gantchev--Chief Executive Officer at Loanbase
    Gabriela Sonam You're the daily recepient of white priviledge. Even your social security, disability and food stamps are the result of white priviledge. There are plenty of blacks in America who deserve it more than you do, and probably can't get it, because the white patriarchy is oppressing them. I came to this country less than 20 years ago, from a country which was enslaved by the Islamic Caliphate for 500 years: my people were forced to pay, convert or die, merely to survive for 500 years. So maybe you should check your assumptions, before you try to assume anything about me. Now I come here and I have to "check my priviledge", because I pass for white people like you? There will be no justice until there are reparations for the injustice!

    Okay Negro. White folks will give you lots of Money. Just go back to Africa.

    Reparation and Repatriation.

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  69. CCZ says:
    @Priss Factor
    Jihadists may get 77 virgins in heaven, but Americans have dogs on earth.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lutheran-church-charities-comfort-dogs-orlando-tragedy_us_57602521e4b053d433065896

    Very surprised that HuffPost did not berate and criticize the project because ALL eleven dogs were golden retrievers, not a single black lab among them. What about Black Labs Matter??

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  70. It’s true that the list of grievances is long. From “Native Americans” to “women” nearly every single human being got the short end of the stick at one point or another. Despite current hysteria, this too applies to most men, including white men. In short, all but a handful of long-dead folks got screwed and the ones that got screwed are long dead themselves.

    Today’s whining boils down to the claim that exceptional instances of true discrimination are common… but who can blame those fools when this cognitive malady is suffered by many people on a wide range of topics (e.g., “Islam” or “elites”).

    shrug

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  71. “The Negro is not the man farthest down. The condition of the coloured farmer in the most backward parts of the Southern States of America, even where he has the least education and the least encouragement, is incomparably better than the condition and opportunities of the agricultural population in Sicily.”

    ― Booker T. Washington, ‘The Man Farthest Down: A Record of Observation and Study in Europe’

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  72. Max Payne says:
    @Priss Factor
    Political Correctness should really be called Political Holiness or Political Worship.

    Three groups JEWS, NEGROES, and HOMOS must be seen as holy and must be worshiped according to Political Correctness or Political Worship. It's not just about being correct or being tolerant. One must be oh-so-reverential and holy-schmoly about Jews, Negroes, and Homos.

    PC doesn't really protect other groups. It's still permissible to mock, ridicule, or criticize(even condemn) Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Mexicans, Asians, Russians, Iranians, Latinos, Polygamists, Poor Whites, Incest-sexuals, fatties, shorties, women(Rap music and 'bitchass ho'), dwarfs, and etc.

    The severity of punishment for deviation from PC shows that it's not just an issue of correctness. After all, being incorrect is like giving the wrong answer on a test or a game show. No big deal.

    The reaction to the Politically Incorrect is like treatment of heretics. So, PC should really be called PW, or Political Worship.
    You must worship Jews, Homos, and Negroes like people must worship Big Brother in 1984.

    PW is a Cult of Identity of the Special Three: Jews, Homos, and Negroes.

    Three groups JEWS, NEGROES, and HOMOS must be seen as holy and must be worshiped according to Political Correctness or Political Worship.

    God help us when there is a significant population of black Jewish homosexuals in the West.

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  73. Max Payne says:
    @Colleen Pater
    First there are more indians in the us now than at any time since whites began settling. next The indians fought hard and it was touch and go for several hundred years finally we had enough and had the numbers and attempted to put them on reservations by force. since i can tell youre a sissy lefty explain why it would bother you that whites are anti immigrant but it was ok for indians to be.
    If you were from out west you would know indian romanticizing is really stupid they make niggers look civilized

    First there are more indians in the us now than at any time since whites began settling.

    Wow. I didn’t know there were 100~ million native Americans in the US. One third of the entire US population…. amazing….

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    Where did you read him saying anything about there being 100 million native Indians in the USA? He never said that.

    Also, you are laughably out of date re USA population, which is more like 350-360 million including illegal aliens.
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  74. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    Here’s some proggy wisdom for you.

    “Killing cops isn’t the answer”

    Well, good to know that. LOL.

    http://thedailybanter.com/2016/07/baton-rouge-police-shooting/

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  75. Max Payne says:
    @epochehusserl
    There were not one hundred million dead native americans. Their social structures wouldn't have supported even 10 million. The largest settlemnts in Illinois had 40000 people in it.

    I don’t know why people have a hard time believing there were 50-100 million native Americans. If the population of Europe was some 70 million at the time, which maintained that level among the ravaging affects of smallpox and the plague as well as the random wars of attrition the white man loves to fight all over Europe (and the Middle East; because some things just don’t change) then why wouldn’t the natives who seem to live in a more temperate climate and more at peace then Europeans not have such a booming population?

    The UN has suppressed a series of viruses and diseases (such as smallpox) which is allowing us to see a massive African population boost as the vast majority live in conditions much worse than the native Americans of the 1600-1700s.

    Their social structure won’t support 10 million? Did they move in one homogeneous horde or something? Because North America is pretty big and there are differing tribes (which I’m sure the majority were just wiped out).

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    There's no evidence for a population anywhere near that size in N. America. Are you also including Central and South America?

    Native Americans were stone age peoples. No written language. They didn't even have the wheel. Or the horse. No metallurgy. Europe was far more advanced collection of civilizations. Native American culture/technology could not sustain a population of 50-100 million people.
    , @RadicalCenter
    If you think that Indian tribes were peaceful, you don't know much about them. Ask the Hopi how peaceful the Navajo were. Ask anyone about Apaches.

    Fucking self-hating loser.
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  76. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I suggest that people start checking out the British Opium Wars against the Chinese. It was through the distribution of opium that the British induced millions of Chinese into drug addiction and all for the purpose of controlling China, its resources and British trade interests. The rendering of huge swathes of population into drug addicts weakens the political system and political power and thus the strength of the nation. The Chinese rebelled and I believe have never forgotten.

    The governments of the USA are waging a similar drug war against its Black population for the same reason of eliminating Black political power. Remember that it was the black community that began the struggle against discrimination and racism and all its effects. Martin Luther King identified the nature of this power in his stance against the Vietnam war and would have said the same thing about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria etc etc. The Black community, which is on the receiving end of white power, remain its best analysts. They are the ones who really “know what is going on” because they feel it on their own skins. They therefore remain a real and viable threat to the white system. They are its chief victims, and and therefore its chief critics and its chief enemies. Why wouldn’t the white ruling power want to render them politically inactive? And at the same time destroy them socially?

    It is not by accident that the Black Muslim movement has been sidestepped and rendered almost invisible and mute because Islam condemns addiction of all kinds – addiction damaging man’s most precious gift from God – his brain, the seat of his intelligence. Drugs damage the brain and therefore damage the person. A perfect method for rendering such people inactive politically.

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    You're under the impression that Africans have "brains" with which they'd accomplish great things if not for drug addiction. These brains have not been much in evidence even in non-drug-addicted African populations....
    , @RadicalCenter
    PS I support ending drug prohibition and the police state that goes with it.

    But primarily for our sake, not that of ungrateful, disloyal, anti-American, anti-white, anti-Asian, violent, impulsive, borderline-retarded Africans.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Africans need to be deported from the USA and Canada and Europe en masse and killed if they refuse to go.
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  77. Mark Green says: • Website
    @Max Payne
    I don't know why people have a hard time believing there were 50-100 million native Americans. If the population of Europe was some 70 million at the time, which maintained that level among the ravaging affects of smallpox and the plague as well as the random wars of attrition the white man loves to fight all over Europe (and the Middle East; because some things just don't change) then why wouldn't the natives who seem to live in a more temperate climate and more at peace then Europeans not have such a booming population?

    The UN has suppressed a series of viruses and diseases (such as smallpox) which is allowing us to see a massive African population boost as the vast majority live in conditions much worse than the native Americans of the 1600-1700s.

    Their social structure won't support 10 million? Did they move in one homogeneous horde or something? Because North America is pretty big and there are differing tribes (which I'm sure the majority were just wiped out).

    There’s no evidence for a population anywhere near that size in N. America. Are you also including Central and South America?

    Native Americans were stone age peoples. No written language. They didn’t even have the wheel. Or the horse. No metallurgy. Europe was far more advanced collection of civilizations. Native American culture/technology could not sustain a population of 50-100 million people.

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    You might be right. I may have included the total population of South and North America.
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  78. Rehmat says:
    @Linh Dinh
    You're calling me a racist for presenting the thoughts of two great black leaders, one great black scholar and a contemporary black cop. And I'm a "trans-misogynist" for pointing out that a man wearing a dress or minus his penis is still a man.

    I had people like you in mind when I wrote a while back:

    According to a pure leftist [...] if you’re black and living in a white society, then you cannot be guilty of anything, not even of racism, that most basic of human instincts. A black man doesn’t have to overcome his racism, since he can’t even be racist, according to many a leftist brain, but to deny such a moral agency to anyone is to see him as subhuman. One has to be a racist, or just plain stupid, to believe any man incapable of self love.

    Stop whining Mr. DINH …..

    The three greatest Afro-African leaders of modern day in America have been Rev. Martin Luther King, Malcolm X and the Champ Muhammad Ali. All of them were target of White and Jewish racism. The first two were assassinated by the FBI being a threat to American establishment and the third died recently of natural causes.

    Chris Hedges, though, claimed Malcolm X understood the nature of American nation far better than the other two.

    “Malcolm X, unlike Martin Luther King Jr., did not believe America had a conscience. For him there was no great tension between the lofty ideals of the nation—which he said were a sham—and the failure to deliver justice to blacks. He, perhaps better than King, understood the inner workings of empire. He had no hope that those who managed empire would ever get in touch with their better selves to build a country free of exploitation and injustice,” Chris Hedges says at Truthdig on February 1, 2015.

    King, like Barack Obama, was a product of Jewish money. Both are the “Black Front” of Zionism. King’s image was pampered by the Organized Jewry through media and Black lawmakers as a counterbalance to the rising influence of Nation of Islam, Malcolm and Imam Waris Deen Muhammad, son of the Founder of Nation of Islam, Elijah Muhammad….

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/02/04/hedges-malcolm-x-understood-the-us-better-than-dr-king/

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  79. Jason Liu says:

    White people with the foresight of goldfish, imports diversity for brief economic gain, regrets it for the rest of existence. Kinda like what’s happening now, but with immigrants.

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  80. @Anonymous
    Well, I had not known until very recently that Mr. Dinh is a trans-misogynist; here I discover he is a racist as well. And apparently he has a lot of support here, judging from many of the comments. His article avoids the impact of of the systemic racism against African-Americans for four centuries, as if that has had no effect on the behavior/attitudes of African-Americans.

    Burn him!!! (Drool dripping, moral plexus quivering with rage tinged with delight)

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  81. @Priss Factor
    "It has often been stated that slavery is America’s original sin."

    I guess 'genocide' of American Indians doesn't count.

    Slavery is humanity’s original sin. It has existed since prehistory, but only whites are held to be evil for having practiced it.

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  82. @Bragadocious
    The Brits murdered more Hindus in one winter (1943-44) than Americans murdered Native Americans in 100 years.

    Highly doubtful, at best.

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  83. @Max Payne

    First there are more indians in the us now than at any time since whites began settling.
     
    Wow. I didn't know there were 100~ million native Americans in the US. One third of the entire US population.... amazing....

    Where did you read him saying anything about there being 100 million native Indians in the USA? He never said that.

    Also, you are laughably out of date re USA population, which is more like 350-360 million including illegal aliens.

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  84. @Max Payne
    I don't know why people have a hard time believing there were 50-100 million native Americans. If the population of Europe was some 70 million at the time, which maintained that level among the ravaging affects of smallpox and the plague as well as the random wars of attrition the white man loves to fight all over Europe (and the Middle East; because some things just don't change) then why wouldn't the natives who seem to live in a more temperate climate and more at peace then Europeans not have such a booming population?

    The UN has suppressed a series of viruses and diseases (such as smallpox) which is allowing us to see a massive African population boost as the vast majority live in conditions much worse than the native Americans of the 1600-1700s.

    Their social structure won't support 10 million? Did they move in one homogeneous horde or something? Because North America is pretty big and there are differing tribes (which I'm sure the majority were just wiped out).

    If you think that Indian tribes were peaceful, you don’t know much about them. Ask the Hopi how peaceful the Navajo were. Ask anyone about Apaches.

    Fucking self-hating loser.

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    I meant not the crazy type of violence with cannons and gunpowder. The level of slaughter would be relatively low compared to the advanced European military forces hardened by years of REAL war.

    I'm sure some tribes raided each other and took captives. Others did pretty barbaric things but the ability to kill at the level Europeans can was out of their grasp (technologically speaking). That's all.

    Take away war at that scale. Take away the Eurasian diseases and plagues. Add plentiful resources and a population should grow.

    On a side note, I don't hate myself. Though why you would assume so baffles me. Unless you're some closed minded American who assumed I was American as well in which case just stop breathing and save the oxygen for something useful (like the rocks of the world).
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  85. @Anonymous
    I suggest that people start checking out the British Opium Wars against the Chinese. It was through the distribution of opium that the British induced millions of Chinese into drug addiction and all for the purpose of controlling China, its resources and British trade interests. The rendering of huge swathes of population into drug addicts weakens the political system and political power and thus the strength of the nation. The Chinese rebelled and I believe have never forgotten.

    The governments of the USA are waging a similar drug war against its Black population for the same reason of eliminating Black political power. Remember that it was the black community that began the struggle against discrimination and racism and all its effects. Martin Luther King identified the nature of this power in his stance against the Vietnam war and would have said the same thing about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria etc etc. The Black community, which is on the receiving end of white power, remain its best analysts. They are the ones who really "know what is going on" because they feel it on their own skins. They therefore remain a real and viable threat to the white system. They are its chief victims, and and therefore its chief critics and its chief enemies. Why wouldn't the white ruling power want to render them politically inactive? And at the same time destroy them socially?

    It is not by accident that the Black Muslim movement has been sidestepped and rendered almost invisible and mute because Islam condemns addiction of all kinds - addiction damaging man's most precious gift from God - his brain, the seat of his intelligence. Drugs damage the brain and therefore damage the person. A perfect method for rendering such people inactive politically.

    You’re under the impression that Africans have “brains” with which they’d accomplish great things if not for drug addiction. These brains have not been much in evidence even in non-drug-addicted African populations….

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  86. @Anonymous
    I suggest that people start checking out the British Opium Wars against the Chinese. It was through the distribution of opium that the British induced millions of Chinese into drug addiction and all for the purpose of controlling China, its resources and British trade interests. The rendering of huge swathes of population into drug addicts weakens the political system and political power and thus the strength of the nation. The Chinese rebelled and I believe have never forgotten.

    The governments of the USA are waging a similar drug war against its Black population for the same reason of eliminating Black political power. Remember that it was the black community that began the struggle against discrimination and racism and all its effects. Martin Luther King identified the nature of this power in his stance against the Vietnam war and would have said the same thing about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria etc etc. The Black community, which is on the receiving end of white power, remain its best analysts. They are the ones who really "know what is going on" because they feel it on their own skins. They therefore remain a real and viable threat to the white system. They are its chief victims, and and therefore its chief critics and its chief enemies. Why wouldn't the white ruling power want to render them politically inactive? And at the same time destroy them socially?

    It is not by accident that the Black Muslim movement has been sidestepped and rendered almost invisible and mute because Islam condemns addiction of all kinds - addiction damaging man's most precious gift from God - his brain, the seat of his intelligence. Drugs damage the brain and therefore damage the person. A perfect method for rendering such people inactive politically.

    PS I support ending drug prohibition and the police state that goes with it.

    But primarily for our sake, not that of ungrateful, disloyal, anti-American, anti-white, anti-Asian, violent, impulsive, borderline-retarded Africans.

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  87. @Anonymous
    I suggest that people start checking out the British Opium Wars against the Chinese. It was through the distribution of opium that the British induced millions of Chinese into drug addiction and all for the purpose of controlling China, its resources and British trade interests. The rendering of huge swathes of population into drug addicts weakens the political system and political power and thus the strength of the nation. The Chinese rebelled and I believe have never forgotten.

    The governments of the USA are waging a similar drug war against its Black population for the same reason of eliminating Black political power. Remember that it was the black community that began the struggle against discrimination and racism and all its effects. Martin Luther King identified the nature of this power in his stance against the Vietnam war and would have said the same thing about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria etc etc. The Black community, which is on the receiving end of white power, remain its best analysts. They are the ones who really "know what is going on" because they feel it on their own skins. They therefore remain a real and viable threat to the white system. They are its chief victims, and and therefore its chief critics and its chief enemies. Why wouldn't the white ruling power want to render them politically inactive? And at the same time destroy them socially?

    It is not by accident that the Black Muslim movement has been sidestepped and rendered almost invisible and mute because Islam condemns addiction of all kinds - addiction damaging man's most precious gift from God - his brain, the seat of his intelligence. Drugs damage the brain and therefore damage the person. A perfect method for rendering such people inactive politically.

    Africans need to be deported from the USA and Canada and Europe en masse and killed if they refuse to go.

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  88. @Wally
    So then, American Indians were 'xenophobic / racist' for resisting European migrants.

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let's us know who the prime owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    see:
    Suppressing Jewry's Role in Slavery / Familiar Tactics
    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7909
    and:
    Dr. Tony Martin - The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7I75Q_-zA

    And Palestinians were racist for resisting Zionist Jewish migrants. Right?

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  89. Max Payne says:
    @RadicalCenter
    If you think that Indian tribes were peaceful, you don't know much about them. Ask the Hopi how peaceful the Navajo were. Ask anyone about Apaches.

    Fucking self-hating loser.

    I meant not the crazy type of violence with cannons and gunpowder. The level of slaughter would be relatively low compared to the advanced European military forces hardened by years of REAL war.

    I’m sure some tribes raided each other and took captives. Others did pretty barbaric things but the ability to kill at the level Europeans can was out of their grasp (technologically speaking). That’s all.

    Take away war at that scale. Take away the Eurasian diseases and plagues. Add plentiful resources and a population should grow.

    On a side note, I don’t hate myself. Though why you would assume so baffles me. Unless you’re some closed minded American who assumed I was American as well in which case just stop breathing and save the oxygen for something useful (like the rocks of the world).

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  90. Max Payne says:
    @Mark Green
    There's no evidence for a population anywhere near that size in N. America. Are you also including Central and South America?

    Native Americans were stone age peoples. No written language. They didn't even have the wheel. Or the horse. No metallurgy. Europe was far more advanced collection of civilizations. Native American culture/technology could not sustain a population of 50-100 million people.

    You might be right. I may have included the total population of South and North America.

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  91. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    You can abolish slavery, but we seem to be unleashing savagery.

    Slavery, bad as it was, suppressed black savagery.

    So did Jim Crow.

    But freedom unleashed black savagery.

    Different races react to freedom different.

    Blacks, being the savage race, will act savage with freedom.

    Why do white Libs gentrify cities? Fear of black savagery.

    Why did Clinton the New Democrat lock up all those Negroes? Fear of black savagery.

    Why do all non-black races try to live apart from too many blacks. Fear of black savagery.

    Why do cops have most problems with blacks? Fear of black savagery.

    Why do teachers have problems with black students? Fear of black savagery.

    Why do we have rap music as culture? Black savagery unleashed.

    Why do white boys and girls worship black athletes? Admiration of black savagery.

    Savagery can be controlled but it can’t be outlawed like slavery.

    That is the problem.

    Trickier yet, black savage behavior has been associated with liberation from slavery. So, Muhammad Ali’s loutish behavior was promoted and celebrated as freedom and dignity. Rapper thuggery is championed as Truth.

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  92. joef says:

    The difference between the afro american attitudes and our own:
    They are full of hatred about who we are (being white), we are full of anger about what they do (their antisocial behavior). If they stopped acting antisocially, most of us would be happy, and cease & desist our criticisms of them. But they appear not only wanting to continue their actions, but to escalate their aggression towards the rest of society. How can you reason with such reckless hatred? That is why I only see it getting worse (while the politicians fiddle while Rome burns).

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  93. Che Guava says:
    @TJM
    Nothing like an insult that you can't is not even legible, seems English is not your first language, stick to sites where you can at least write a complete sentence.

    Nothing like an insult that you can’t is [sic] not even legible [sic] , seems English is not your first language , stick to sites where you can at least write a complete sentence.

    I would like to be much more insulting to an obvious fool like you, but don’t want to pose a dilemna for Unz mods. Sure, English may not be my first language, but I do a hell of a lot better job in the language than you ever will.

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  94. Che Guava says:
    @Max Payne

    Three groups JEWS, NEGROES, and HOMOS must be seen as holy and must be worshiped according to Political Correctness or Political Worship.
     
    God help us when there is a significant population of black Jewish homosexuals in the West.

    interesting.

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  95. Che Guava says:

    Milo Yiannopolos hits two of three, suppose he hits the third when he has a black penis up his bum.

    I mistakenly disputed an earlier commentor’s claim (QM, I think, sorry for that) on that point, but ran across a newer rant frnm Milo, not two days later, where he was effusive about his preference for having a black penis in hIs anus.

    Still, think Milo can be funny at times, but too vain for words!

    An interesting phenom., apart from his dirty sexual habits, some readers here may enjoy the ‘Wall’ photoshop comp. on Breitbart, I thought the winning selections were the least interesting, if I recall correctly, he gave first prize to one of himself and Coulter, facing away from each other.

    All of the other prize-winners were boring. He selected only those where he
    was the absolute centre-piece.

    Most of the rejected ones were more interesting.

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  96. @Jacques Sheete

    His article avoids the impact of of the systemic racism against African-Americans for four centuries, as if that has had no effect on the behavior/attitudes of African-Americans.
     
    I agree with that sentiment. Heck, even Ben Franklin understood that a couple of centuries ago. There is little doubt that we are seeing the lingering effects of persistent destruction of the family, persistently negative bias, and hideous degradation to name some of the evils visited on some folks.

    “Slavery is such an atrocious debasement of human nature, that its very extirpation, if not performed with solicitous care, may sometimes open a source of serious evils.
    The unhappy man, who has long been treated as a brute animal, too frequently sinks beneath the common standard of the human species. The galling chains, that bind his body, do also fetter his intellectual faculties, and impair the social affections of his heart. Accustomed to move like a mere machine, by the will of a master, reflection is suspended; he has not the power of choice; and reason and conscience have but little influence over his conduct, because he is chiefly governed by the passion of fear. He is poor and friendless; perhaps worn out by extreme labor, age, and disease.”

    Ben Franklin, “An Address to the Public from the Pennsylvania Society for Promoting the Abolition of Slavery, and the Relief of Free Negroes unlawfully held in Bondage,” Philadelphia, 9 November, 1789.
    http://oll.libertyfund.org/quotes/545

    even Ben Franklin understood that a couple of centuries ago

    Ben Franklin referred to the effects on those who were themselves slaves. I doubt anyone would seriously challenge the assertion that one born into slavery and only emancipated in middle age would suffer ill effects for the remainder of his life. But what has this to do with anyone alive today?

    Any negro alive today is likely to have spent the majority (if not the entirety) of his life as a super privileged class with preferred legal status for education, jobs, and myriad government handouts. Negroes whine about slavery of ancestors (whom they cannot even name) ten generations ago because said whining is like a giant lever holding back the spigot of white owned resources. The louder the negro whines, the more goodies stupid whites shovel toward him. Negroes whose forebears came to America after Emancipation can cry “slavery!” and expect whites whose ancestors came to America after the First World War to fork over their savings account and keys to their daughters’ chastity belts. Negroes are such fragile creatures that they can never face even the mildest criticism for their social, academic, and economic failures.

    Every human population has, at one time or another, been enslaved. A vast and growing number of Americans are fed up with the failures and criminality of the American negro. Our fastest growing demographics, mestizos and East Asians, have no tolerance whatever for negro dysfunction. I have for decades encouraged others to study the negroes’ habits in his native environment of Africa. As more and more video becomes easily available online, it is just that much easier to see how the behavior of negroes in America closely resembles negro behavior in the Congo. Genetic science too is proving that social behaviors are, like intelligence and physical attributes, at least 50% rooted in DNA.

    Over a century ago the leading negro intellects noted that the “Talented Tenth” of their race could be improved and assimilated to western civilization. That ratio seems unchanged today. The question we’ve avoided for so long will very soon demand an answer. What are we to do with the untalented 90%? When half your population has an IQ ceiling of 85, what possible productive role can you play in 21st Century? White guilt is becoming a dry well and negro fatigue is setting in among all other races both in America and globally. Assuming it’s too late to repatriate all negroes to Africa and treat them with a hands-off policy as we with with Andamanese and other “uncontacted” peoples, what are our options?

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