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A View from Iceland: An Interview with Eiríkur Örn Norðdahl
Linh Dinh and Eirikur Orn Norddahl in Stokkseyri, Iceland, 2007
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Born in Reykjavík in 1978, Norðdahl was raised in Ísafjörður, a fishing village of just 2,623 people in northwest Iceland. Its population has been shrinking for several decades. Norðdahl’s father was a fisherman, and his mother a school teacher.

Starting with his first job in a shrimp factory at age 12, Norðdahl has worked as a hotel night watchman, cook at a kindergarten, grade school teacher, the only white man on a cruise ship’s cleaning crew in Finland, handyman at a Danish boarding school, caretaker in a nursing home’s sick ward, caretaker at two homes for the handicapped and journalist. Since 2007, Norðdahl has survived mostly as a translator and writer.

With six books of poems, five novels, two collections of essays and even a cook book with short, meditative essays on food, Norðdahl is in fact one of Iceland’s brightest literary stars. His 2012 novel, Illska, was awarded The Icelandic Literary Prize and The Book Merchant’s Prize, and its French version shortlisted for the Prix Médicis Étranger and the Prix Meilleur Livre Étranger. Norðdahl’s translation credits include a selection of Allen Ginsberg’s poetry, Michael Moore, crime fiction and Jonathan Lethem’s Motherless Brooklyn.

As an organizer of the Reykjavik International Literary Festival, Eiríkur Örn Norðdahl brought me to Iceland in 2007, and we’ve stayed in touch over the years. This interview was conducted via email over eight days.

Iceland is a tiny, island country, with just over 300,000 people. When I visited Reykjavik in 2007, I found it to be surprisingly cosmopolitan, with many international restaurants downtown, including a Vietnamese one. A lovely barista at a hip cafe appeared to be an immigrant from the South Pacific, and Belly’s Bar felt so American, I could have been in Columbus, Ohio. English was spoken widely, and there were many tourists. It felt like the world was coming to Iceland, with some people intending on staying. Do Icelanders want their society to become more diverse? Do you?

-I’d like that, but I don’t think that’s generally what Icelanders want. It certainly isn’t public policy. What “we” want is tourists, preferably rich tourists who wish to spend lots of money and then go home. Tourism in Iceland has been growing exponentially—there’s probably three or four times as many now as there were in 2007. In my small hometown (2,700 inhabitants) we get huge cruise ships all summer long—sometimes they have twice as many people as the town and they swarm over it like confused locusts with cameras. It’s really weird. And weird to be exotic in that way, or exoticized, by people who often aren’t even coming from very far away. I remember a couple of years ago I was standing outside my house, with my wife and my kids, and we were heading to the next town to go swimming. We’re just standing there putting our swim gear, towels and swimsuits, in the back of the car—and I noticed that across the street was a large group of German tourists photographing us. And I remember thinking if people did this differently in Germany; if I was doing something peculiar.

I can’t say I resent the tourism, but it is certainly strange—there’s a horrible Wild West attitude about it. Lots of hotels are run on cheap Eastern European labor—there are many cases of people literally being slaves—the infrastructure has yet to catch up with the great numbers, meaning for instance that there aren’t enough bathrooms so people are pissing and shitting all over the place, and there aren’t guards at dangerous places so people get killed doing stupid stuff, and there’s also too little surveillance at locations where there’s sensitive nature—so people are going around driving off-road, lighting open fires and tearing up moss at places where you really shouldn’t be doing that.

But at the same time immigration from outside the EU is difficult, we hardly take any refugees and most asylum seekers get sent out. The public policy is very strict—we use any excuse we can find to deport people, whether it’s back to slavery in Mauritania, to the violence of Boko Haram in Nigeria or destitution in Albania—that last one is the worst, the Icelandic government views fleeing from poverty and disease as a hate crime against our way of life.

Last year there was an online pledge where thousands of people promised to take in refugees from Syria and assist them, if they’d be allowed to come. At the time the idea was to accept around 50 refugees. The minister “responded” to this huge movement by enlarging the group to about 55.

Globalism is of course present. We got our first Dunkin’ Donuts last year—the queue on the first day was epic, there should be Sagas written about it. But there’s no McDonalds anymore, that closed down after the collapse in 2008. Globalism has brought all these restaurants—we didn’t even have pizza until the eighties and beer was illegal. But now everyone is an international gourmand and every other house is a microbrewery.

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One immigrant Iceland took in was Bobby Fischer, and I’ve always thought this was a very brave gesture. Fischer conducted many interviews with radio stations in the Philippines, Hungary, Iceland, Colombia and Russia. He called the US a “brutal, evil dictatorship” controlled by Jews, whom he characterized endlessly as criminals, parasites, liars and thieves. The Holocaust is “a money-making invention.” As for Israel, “They torture their prisoners in the worst way [...] They don’t even deny it hardly. Jews were always bastards throughout history. They are liars, they are the worst pieces of shit in the world. They mutilate their own children.” Fischer celebrated 9/11 and wished for a military coup, “the country will be taken over by the military, they’ll close down all the synagogues, arrest all the Jews, execute hundreds of thousands of Jewish ringleaders.” “The United States is an illegitimate country, just like Israel. It has no right to exist.” Thanks to the First Amendment, the US couldn’t go after Fischer for these statements, but it prosecuted him for playing a chess match in Yugoslavia, an enemy country. Japan did arrest Fischer for the US, but didn’t extradite him. Iceland then offered Fischer not just asylum, but citizenship. This, from a country with twice as many American soldiers on its soil as its own. What do you make of this defiance? More broadly, how do Icelanders view the US?

-Icelanders are rather American—half the country is geographically American and the military base had a huge cultural impact through their radio and TV stations. They are, however, also anti-American, but then one has to keep in mind that the most common modern form of anti-Americanism is an American export product—something born out of the resistance to the war in Vietnam and the ‘68 movement. Bob Dylan taught us how to despise the US, how to hate imperialism.

But Icelanders also being Scandinavian, if we were voting for your president Bernie would win it hands down (although we also really like more simpleminded demagoguery, so perhaps Trump would stand a chance).

As for Bobby Fischer, who was a fixture in downtown Reykjavík until he died – particularly at bars or this one cheap Thai restaurant that he loved—I have a hard time imagining the Icelandic government “saving” him in defiance of the US. That government was very pro US and at the time fighting hard to keep the military base in Iceland—which is why Iceland was part of “the coalition of the willing” and why that was decided on in a closed backroom instead of being taken to the parliament (which might have rejected it, the war being very unpopular). The US military left a little under two years later. That being said, Iceland is highly cronyistic, so if you know the right people you may get the craziest things approved—and Bobby had good friends in the country, since the time of his world championship match with Spassky in Reykjavík. Also, the prime minister at the time is a known megalomaniac. My guess, however, is that the US government just wanted Fischer out of the limelight, which also meant out of detention, since political prisoners of his stature usually garner lots of attention. The decision to charge him for having played a game of chess was also out of sync with the “great American narrative” of freedom—it was bad PR. Fischer spent his last years in Iceland ranting harmlessly, as far as I can tell, with few sympathetic ears, causing no harm to anyone (except perhaps the Jews who happened to pass by, which in Iceland is exceedingly rare, globalism has brought us everything but Judaism). Granting him asylum, rather than simple citizenship, might also have implied a greater recognition of his status as a legitimate refugee.

With its vast open spaces and new, mostly smallish buildings, Iceland looks like it’s still being settled. Civilization hasn’t left much of a visible imprint. There are practically no colossal structures, be they churches, factories or mega shopping malls. Outside its one city, there aren’t even many farms, since not much can grow in Iceland. One would be mistaken, however, in concluding that Icelanders are backwoods hicks or wild men. Per capita, Icelanders read and write more books than anyone else. How did Icelanders become so cultured? It can’t just be because there’s not much else to do but read and think during those long, dark hours during each marathon winter. If that’s all it takes, Inuits would also be cranking out novels!

-There’s actually an amazing amount of malls in Reykjavík—the biggest one is apparently of a design that would fit a city of a million people, whereas Reykjavík only has 200,000 inhabitants (and the whole country only 340,000). But Reykjavík is very spread out and there are very few buildings older than 100-150 years. This mostly has to do with the fact that we were not only poor until WWII, but we didn’t really have our own bourgeois class, and no nobility. The Danish and Norwegian functionaries living in the country weren’t very high on the food chain, their status didn’t justify any castles.

As late as 1940 a large part of the Icelandic population was still living in houses made of mud. This had started to change at the beginning of the 20th century, when we finally gave up on farming after a thousand years of stubborn disbelief and started fishing—got the first proper boats. The economy made leaps during the war when fish prices in Europe soared due to the unsafe waters. Also, we proportionally got more Marshall Aid than any other nation, and the British and US military built a lot of infrastructure—roads around the country, as well as the domestic airport in Reykjavík and the international airport in Keflavík.

But even when we were living in mud houses, reading was an important activity—it may have been more important than it is now. The cliché goes that you could go to the bishop’s house, meet a man in the garden, and not know from how he spoke whether you were talking to the bishop or the gardener. The state of working class home-libraries has fallen but it’s certainly a legacy to build on—that a home without books is no home at all. Also, public libraries are almost as common as swimming halls (there’s a swimming hall in any town with more than 50 people).

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This obsession with reading had to do with the nationalist struggle for independence—not only was “the idea” of the nation, the social imaginary, created by a group of poets but our major claim to historical greatness is the Sagas and the Eddas. We don’t have any wars that we won, any great military figures, we don’t have a history of having been outcasts—and we gained our independence mostly through nagging and writing letters and being patient. Iceland has a kind of colonial trauma, but it’s very different from what you’ll find in Africa, Asia or America. The books that were written in Iceland—as well as the oral traditions of poetry—and the struggle from sovereignty in 1918 to full independence in 1944 coinciding with the rising career of our Nobel laureate, Halldór Laxness (who published his first book in 1919 and won the Nobel in 1955)—literature is how Icelandic people have self-identified, without it the country had no narrative of greatness—no “hero’s journey”—and therefore no claim to independence.

This has changed a lot though—today Björk is more famous than the Sagas and Laxness combined, and the nationalism that used to be taken for granted is in constant crisis mode; the left, that used to be very patriotic, has abandoned it and the reactionary right is just foaming. It’s much harder to justify nationalism when you’re rich, powerful and independent. But then a lot of the tourists that come to Iceland are rich and powerful people from big bully nation states like the US and Germany, that have come to Iceland to experience a kind of nationalism by proxy. These tend to be left leaning liberals who are uncomfortable with being nationalists at home, but get a kind of catharsis from the Wagnerian (“sigur rós-ian”) exaltation of Icelandic mountains.

That’s interesting, your observation that nationalism is strongest when one’s very identity is threatened. Thus, there’s a need to assert oneself through literature. One must raise one’s voice, literally. When the French occupied Vietnam, there was a famous saying by an intellectual, Pham Quynh, “Truyen Kieu [a 19th century epic poem] remains, our language remains. Our language remains, our nation remains.” Often, what’s called nationalism is really tribalism, and in the US, the strongest tribal instincts have been found in non-whites, but since many whites are feeling increasingly beleaguered, white nationalism is experiencing a revival, with Trump its most visible indicator. With wealth comes a degree of smugness, you’re saying, and I suppose there is a strong temptation to think of oneself as a citizen of the world. In Reykjavik, there’s a very odd sight of a train locomotive, plopped near the ocean. Since Iceland never had a rail system, this is just for show. As a symbol of Iceland’s geographical isolation, this going nowhere locomotive is perfect. The compulsion to see the rest of the world, or at least another country, must be tremendously strong in Iceland. You lived many years in Sweden and have traveled very widely. With your wife and kids, you spent four months in Vietnam recently. Please talk about what you find appealing or appalling in all these countries you’ve visited.

-I think nationalism works differently in different situations—the small country nationalism is probably the plainest type of tribalism, pairing as it does a deep-seated inferiority complex with fleeting moments of absolute and utter megalomania. The nationalism of empires does not require an outside threat to thrive; although the most dangerous empires are of course those that feel truly threatened.

One of Iceland’s greatest writers, Þórbergur Þórðarson, grew up on a farm in eastern Iceland at the end of the 19th century. He wrote that it was the blue of the ocean and the sails of French ships that had driven him to move to Reykjavík (which at the time was a thriving metropolis of about 15,000 people). The sails, nota bene, also represent different kinds of spoils—not just a symbol for traveling—since the French and Spanish sailors would sometimes do business ashore, but they would also sometimes run aground and perish, leaving the shores of poor farmers strewn with exotic wealth. Iceland is nearly only inhabited along the coastline so everybody grows up with the land on one side and the ocean on the other—and the ocean has an acute way of letting you know that there’s something exciting on the other end of it. Which makes people wish to travel. But for a long time that kind of just made people want to go to Reykjavík—or at best, Copenhagen, which used to be our capital, in a sense.

I’ve lived in all of the Nordic countries—Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway and the Faroe Islands (missing only Greenland)—as well as Berlin, and then the winter before last, like you mention, in Hoi An. I have also traveled a lot, but mostly within Europe—I’ve only once been in the States, for five days, twice in Canada, I once spent a month in Cuba and then two weeks in Brazil. But otherwise it’s just Europe.

I find it interesting to discover the differences in cultures that are otherwise similar—how for instance Denmark and Sweden define themselves so much as being different from each another. The Danes are obsessed with the Swedes being so horribly PC; whereas the Swedes are obsessed with the Danes having no respect for minorities, thinking that just because you can say something, someone needs to be saying it. If a single Swedish librarian removes a book full of golliwogs from the children’s shelf it’s headline news in Denmark. And they are of course both right—they’re more right about each other than they are about themselves.

When I moved to the Faroe Islands—which are this small group of Islands close to Iceland, where the people speak a language very close to Icelandic, and are even fewer than we are (50,000 vs. 340,000)—it wasn’t just to “see them” but also to “see Iceland,” to understand what we might look like to a foreigner, by going to see the closest thing. I’m not sure it worked, but that was the general idea.

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Going to Vietnam was of course absolutely the opposite. I went looking for the great difference. Hoi An is, despite its actual size and the tourism, pretty rural and at a time when European towns and cities are mostly turning the same bland shade of Starbucks or clones, H&M or clones and McDonalds and clones—which is obviously also happening in the bigger Vietnamese cities—uniqueness is something to hold on to when you get it. I don’t know if I was satiated with Vietnam being so horribly different though, as different as I’d hoped—a lot of the difference had been packaged in such familiar terms, everybody marketing “authenticity” to the point that just that word made it all fake. The Disney version of authenticity—sailing down the Mekong I see in the same terms as getting in a jeep and driving up a glacier in Iceland. Authenticity—as far as that exists—isn’t for me something so purposeless as simple wandering, you need to have an errand to run down the river for it to be authentic. Authenticity isn’t really compatible with tourism, at all. At least there didn’t seem to be a way of seeking it out, but sometimes when you stayed put authenticity would come to you, just fall in your lap—sometimes it was what our Vietnamese neighbors would be laughing at (they were good people with a nasty sense of humor and laughed very hard when anybody hurt themselves), sometimes it was the confusion of a pizza delivery man, or the drunk ramblings of our landlord about the communists and the French. Or being headbutted by a cow. Or when our neighbors (across the street, people we never got to know) slaughtered a pig on the sidewalk.

When I think of the places where I’ve lived in terms of appalling/appealing, it’s almost as if they become the same thing. The appalling fascinates me too much, and the appealing is too easily kitschy. The fascination of the appalling goes full circle and its appeal turns into something more appalling; similarly kitsch ends up being beautiful.

Many people worldwide, and Americans too, feel that the US must change. American campaign slogans are always about change, even if it’s only a reversion to a former era. How would you like the US to change? And please talk, too, about your actual experience of the United States. What surprised you during your five-day visit?

-I don’t think it’s a matter of the US changing, per se. By now, most of the world is guided by the same faulty principles. While Bernie Sanders points to Denmark and Scandinavia as examples of something different from the US, Danish policies are moving closer and closer to American policies. The world is more dominated by markets than politicians—who are just another tool of the market. In Iceland, after the collapse, we voted in a left-wing government that eventually just did what the IMF told them to do; in Greece they tried their best, with Syriza, to do things differently but they got a gun to the head and ended up complying. The US is of course a lot more powerful than Greece, let alone Iceland, but I don’t see you voting in any change, really. The cynic in me wishes you’d vote in the buffoon Trump—hoping that it would just cause everything to spin out of control and crumble. But I’m pretty sure they’d rein him in too before things went that far. And if they didn’t that would be hell too—I don’t really favor civil war, world war or any other apocalyptic scenarios. Perhaps the best one can hope for is something incremental. For you guys, that might be a tiny bit stricter gun laws, a bit less racism. For the rest of us it might mean a tiny little more political autonomy.

When I came to the US, that was New York—which everyone always says “isn’t representative” of the US, which I find funny, because it implies a uniformity I doubt is present. I’m sure there’s also a huge difference between, I don’t know, San Francisco and Dallas, or Detroit and Los Angeles. Other countries are also not uniform—northern and southern France are totally different. Not that I don’t believe New York is special, everywhere is special—New York happens to have a lot of cultural history. And be an island. And maybe the birthplace of modern day anti-Americanism (which would explain why they want to claim they’re not responsible for whatever the “US” is).

I remember getting the feeling on the plane that I was finally on my way to Rome; heading to the center, where 90% of all contemporary culture comes from. And that it was strange I’d never made my way there. That was 2008, and I’ve not been back, and I find that strange. I spent most of those five days just roaming around on foot, sometimes with a guide who would explain to me that “this used to be that place” and “that’s where that guy used to live” and “here’s where that thing happened”. It seemed like it had all been in the past. I’ve lived in Berlin, a place with a lot of history, but it’s also a place that’s continually booming—you don’t feel like you’re passing through a cultural graveyard. Or maybe I should say, a cultural Disneyland, a simulacra. Somebody theorized to me recently that, in terms of the poetry scene at least, it had all deteriorated after Allen Ginsberg died—that without a clear figurehead, and a kind, loving one at that, everybody just started eating each other. But I was also just there for a few days, it may take longer to find the actual life—I may have been in all the wrong places.

The city felt strangely—and naturally—familiar. I’ve probably seen every street in Manhattan and large parts of Brooklyn on film. I remember waiting to cross the street when a car swerved in front of another, whose driver braked abruptly, got out of the car and started shouting something about fucking motherfuckers; and I remember thinking that you can’t actually be like that, I felt like they were acting New Yorky for my sake. Similar things kept happening—all that was missing was the high speed car chases, King Kong and spaceships. And Woody Allen, but I’m told he’s around.

Mostly I remember every conversation being about housing. How much do you pay, where do you live, and is it up for grabs? That is also very different from Berlin, which is still cheap—the wannabe artists and slacker hipsters living there aren’t working five day jobs to make ends meet, they’re living from scraps and getting arty-hipster-things done. There’s less networking. There’s less posing and everything feels a bit more real. (Although last time I was in Berlin, a few weeks ago, I accidentally drank somebody else’s date rape drug and ended up roaming the city, totally blacked out, until nine in the morning; which was a bit too real for my taste—I like safe backwoods Iceland). Paris is also like this, with the housing and the posing—you don’t get the feeling anybody lives in New York or Paris because they want to, they just live there because all the other cool kids live there. They just get stuck.

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During my stay in Reykjavik, I had quite a few hot dogs, not just because Icelandic hot dogs were excellent, but because they were the cheapest food available. I also tried hákarl, your chewy fermented shark that smells and tastes like ammonia. A Finn even warned me it would taste like “dry vomit.” Swallowing it, I had to conclude that Icelanders are an extremely resourceful and stoic people. To me, hákarl also embodies Iceland’s isolation. If you had to be in just one country for the rest of your life, would it be Iceland? If not, then where?

-Ha ha. I actually like hákarl. But there’s a right and a wrong way of enjoying it. It should be eaten in small bits along with shots of brennivín (caraway liquor). Preferably in good company. Most food worth eating is an acquired taste—although there are different levels. I’m still a long way off from “getting” stinky tofu and I was almost 30 before started enjoying nasty French cheeses.

Icelandic hot dogs are good—and sausages in Iceland have gotten so much better in the last years, due to an influx of Polish immigrants. Danish hot dogs are also good, but the rest of Scandinavia can’t really pass muster.

I’ve generally had a problem with staying still—although it is also a dream of mine, that one day I’ll calm down enough to be able to stay put. What’s it called again, mindfulness? Maybe that’s what I’m looking for, enough mindfulness to not need to continually shift things around. I’m married to a Swede and if it came to it we’d have to take that decision together; but theoretically, if it was just my decision, I’d probably choose either Iceland or some huge place I’ve not really been to before. The US, Russia, China. As for Iceland, it wouldn’t really be the country, per se, it’d be my tiny hometown. My affinity for the country is limited but when it comes to Ísafjörður I’m a rambling, incoherent Nazi whose patriotic emotions are unrivaled in any hemisphere. It’s the place from where I come, and the place from where I leave, it’s where I land when I return. Out on the waterfront, squeezed between the steep mountains on all sides, not more than a minute’s walk from anything one would ever need; grocery stores, bars, restaurants, the culture house, the cinema, the library, the swimming hall, etc. When a town of that size works and is dynamic, living there is “just amazing,” as you would say in the US. :-) It truly is.

Linh Dinh is the author of two books of stories, five of poems, and a novel, Love Like Hate. He’s tracking our deteriorating socialscape through his frequently updated photo blog, Postcards from the End of America.

 
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  1. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Keep the bankers, jaffers, and Moos out, and Iceland will be A-okay.

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    Are you a 'self-hating Jew' or just a damn moron? Bankers are from your own tribe ....

    For the past two decades, more than 50% of the 'Federal Reserve' Presidents and 100% of the Chairmen have been Jewish. Before Chairman Benjamin Shalom Bernanke, there was Chairman Alan Greenspan. In fact, there hasn’t been a gentile Federal Reserve Chairman/woman in over 25 years, even though gentiles comprise 98% of the population.

    The Federal Reserve is a consortium of nine Jewish-owned and associated banking institutions with the Jewish Rothschild family at the head. Even the name “Federal Reserve” was coined by German-born American Jewish banker Paul Warburg (died 1932), an employee of the Rothschilds. In practice, it’s over 95 percent privately-owned, is not integrated into the US Government, nor accountable to any branch of government. There is nothing “Federal” about it as it lies fully outside the government system of checks-and-balances. It supports the financial needs of the US imperialism, covert operations, usury, drug dealers, and the global banksters.

    Since its establishment in 1913, there have been 14 Chairmen of the Federal Reserve Bank. Ten of them; Charles Sumner Hamlin (1914-16), William Proctor Gould Harding (1916-22), Daniel Richard Crissinger (1923-27), Roy Archibald Young (1927-30), Eugene Isaac Meyer (1930-33), Eugene Robert Black (1933-34), Arthur Frank Burns (1970-78), Paul Adolph Volcker (1979-87), Alan Greenspan (1987-2006) and Ben Bernanke, all Jewish.

    On December 27, 2013, Andrian Salbuchi, an investigative journalist and author living in Argentina, posted an article, titled, ‘FED up? Hundred years of manipulating the US dollar‘.

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  2. edNels [AKA "geoshmoe"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Hey nice article. I bet you would get ”Island Fever”, pretty quick over there.

    But you gotta love that tourist industry though. Ancdotally, over 40 years ago I visited North Norge, and out on a day trip, great uncle Johan, tried to secure us a salmon from one of the best rivers in the area, but when he came back to the car, he was mad as hell, with fish, but he must have had to shell out a bundle, see, the fishing hole, now belonged to American Corporate ass holes!

    Lots of hotels are run on cheap Eastern European labor—there are many cases of people literally being slaves—the infrastructure has yet to catch up with the great numbers, meaning for instance that there aren’t enough bathrooms so people are pissing and shitting all over the place,

    And just think, 2016, what a fabulous year… for international f’n meltdown preview…

    Wait till it really gets going!! I mean the uh… human clammoring, or complete disintegration.

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  3. A few other stories from beautiful Iceland …..

    In response to an appeal on Facebook, Syria Calling, 5000 families in Iceland have offered their willingness to take Syrian refugees into their homes. The offer has really pissed off the Jewish media (Daily Beast, etc.) which taunted these Icelanders trying to be Heroes.

    The organized Jewry wants Western nations to treat Syrian refugees as it convinced Nazis to allow Jews to immigrate to Palestine only. Tens of thousands of Syrians have left their ancestral homeland to escape bloody war run by US-Israel created Islamist terrorists.

    On September 19, 2014, the Jew York Times criticized Sweden’s open door immigration policy to take-in more Syrian refugees.

    In 2011, radical Israeli Jew, Dr. Manfred Gerstenfeld declared Icelanders Israel haters.

    In 2013, Israel-propaganda website, BlazingCatFur, criticized Iceland’s proposed ban on pornography. It called Icelandic prime minister Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir, “a feminist lesbian”, though she is married twice. The fact that Dubai bans lap dancing for Islamic reasons and Iceland did it for feminist reasons describes the best way possible the synergy between two totalitarian ideologies. The end result is the same,” wrote the Zionist Jew idiot.

    In reality the pro-Israel Jewish groups love lesbians. In June 2015, Canadian Jewish lobby honored Ontario premier, Kathaleen Wynne, an open lesbian.

    On August 4, 2013, The Jewish Daily Forward published Jenna Gottlieb’s article in which she claimed that the 100 Icelandic Jews are intermarried immigrants and there is no anti-Jewish (aka antisemitism) in the country of 325,000 people. However, many Icelanders hate Israel for insulting their Jewish First Lady, Israeli-born Dorrit Moussaieff at the Ben-Gurion airport in 2006. Her Icelandic passport was confiscated by a female security official and she was not allowed to leave the entity for three days.

    “This is to become a serious diplomatic incident. This is why everyone hates Jews,” she shouted at the official.

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/09/04/5000-icelanders-offer-to-take-in-syrian-refugees/

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  4. tl;dr for Eiríkur Örn Norðdahl (one of those privileged Icelanders who owns a surname!): We have an attractive and unique country here. So let’s hasten to destroy it forever by importing unlimited filth from the four corners of the world. Anything less just wouldn’t be hip. Oh, and my Swedish moll might not think I was enough of a cuck.

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    Anything less just wouldn’t be hip. Oh, and my Swedish moll might not think I was enough of a cuck.
     
    Perceptive comment and I bet she is good looking.
  5. Thank you, Mr. Linh Dinh, and thank you, Mr. Norðdahl, for very interesting material.
    Back in USSR I have read the novel “Salka Valka” by Halldor Laxness; sure, in translation to Russian. It was nice and unusual.
    Last summer my wife and I, we had a 10 day tour to Iceland. It was really remarkable trip.

    I did not realize, how difficult was for people to live there before, say, 1930-s. Physical difficulty to live in the place with so few natural resources: no iron ores, no coal, almost no wood, almost no arable land, almoost no harbors, very short vegetation season, and terribly stormy and terribly cold ocean around.

    God, if you are there, please, bless Icelanders !

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  6. “In Reykjavik, there’s a very odd sight of a train locomotive, plopped near the ocean. Since Iceland never had a rail system, this is just for show. As a symbol of Iceland’s geographical isolation, this going nowhere locomotive is perfect.”

    The British (IIRC) built a small railway when the Reykjavik harbour was constructed, the German-made locos are from that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_transport_in_Iceland

    A country with a large amount of seismic and volcanic activity isn’t the best place for railways, and until recently there wasn’t much outside the capital to go to. Even the main Route 1, which goes round the entire island, has lengthy gravel-road stretches in the east.

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    • Replies: @fnn
    Moldbug on the American origins of modern (post-1945) anti-Americanism:
    http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/08/secret-of-anti-americanism.html

    ... I believe anti-Americanism is best described as an epiphenomenon of Universalism. The single most significant fact about the world today is that sixty-two years ago it was conquered by a military alliance whose leader was the United States, and whose creed of battle was this nontheistic adaptation of New England mainline Protestantism. I don't think it's a coincidence that the European ruling class holds essentially the same perspectives that were held at Harvard in 1945. The US Army did not shoot all the professors in Europe and replace them with Yankee carpetbaggers, but the prestige of conquest is such that it might as well have.

    It makes sense to view anti-Americanism as a postwar phenomenon, because it's hard to find anything in Europe's prewar political scene that corresponds to it. Before WWII, a European who found American influences pernicious was most likely a man of the Right, generally either an anti-Wilsonian aristocrat or a Bonapartist nationalist demagogue. After the war, and especially since the rise of the postwar-educated generation of 1968, European anti-Americanism has been overwhelmingly on the Left. Considering the animosity between these factions, it's hard to find any continuity between them.
     
    A lot of people (e.g., Francis Parker Yockey) would say it also has partially Jewish origins.
  7. Another nice article, Mr. Dinh.

    Mr. Northdahl’s replies (or more aptly, parts of the conversation) were interesting.

    I liked you raising the topic of Bobby Fischer.

    For Unzers who are interested, the radio broadcasts (or at least the most outrageous of them) were still on the ‘net last time I checked.

    The one he made after ’911′ made me laugh out loud for the intro. ‘This is wonderful news!’, in a loud tone full of bonhomie.

    He was a hero of the U.S. in the Cold War, many things and much money stolen from him there later, attempted extradition from here.

    I was very pleased when, for once, our govt. showed a spine and allowed him to leave for Iceland. On the other hand, it was ugly that, after he’d been making Japan a second home for many years, he was arrested at the behest of the U.S. at all, and was treated badly at the time and while in detention.

    A fermented fish dish is also somewhat popular in Japan, it is called kusaya, made from mackerel scad (not sure that is the right English) or flying fish.

    Unlike the Scandinavian versions, it is dried after fermentation. To me, it tastes like the smell of a volcano or a very pungent hot spring, with an undertone of fish. Like most people now, only for eating with booze.

    Both were made as protein and calcium sources for storage.

    I wish we could buy rollmops (Scand.) or sledge (nth. Slav.) here, there is a kind of pickled herring, but the western versions are tastier.

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  8. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I spent a long weekend in Iceland about 10 years ago, celebrating the bachelor party of a friend. I noticed that centuries of Viking plunder had an obvious result on the attractiveness of Iceland’s womenfolk. I had not until then, or since, seen anything like it.

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  9. @5371
    tl;dr for Eiríkur Örn Norðdahl (one of those privileged Icelanders who owns a surname!): We have an attractive and unique country here. So let's hasten to destroy it forever by importing unlimited filth from the four corners of the world. Anything less just wouldn't be hip. Oh, and my Swedish moll might not think I was enough of a cuck.

    Anything less just wouldn’t be hip. Oh, and my Swedish moll might not think I was enough of a cuck.

    Perceptive comment and I bet she is good looking.

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  10. @Priss Factor
    Keep the bankers, jaffers, and Moos out, and Iceland will be A-okay.

    Are you a ‘self-hating Jew’ or just a damn moron? Bankers are from your own tribe ….

    For the past two decades, more than 50% of the ‘Federal Reserve’ Presidents and 100% of the Chairmen have been Jewish. Before Chairman Benjamin Shalom Bernanke, there was Chairman Alan Greenspan. In fact, there hasn’t been a gentile Federal Reserve Chairman/woman in over 25 years, even though gentiles comprise 98% of the population.

    The Federal Reserve is a consortium of nine Jewish-owned and associated banking institutions with the Jewish Rothschild family at the head. Even the name “Federal Reserve” was coined by German-born American Jewish banker Paul Warburg (died 1932), an employee of the Rothschilds. In practice, it’s over 95 percent privately-owned, is not integrated into the US Government, nor accountable to any branch of government. There is nothing “Federal” about it as it lies fully outside the government system of checks-and-balances. It supports the financial needs of the US imperialism, covert operations, usury, drug dealers, and the global banksters.

    Since its establishment in 1913, there have been 14 Chairmen of the Federal Reserve Bank. Ten of them; Charles Sumner Hamlin (1914-16), William Proctor Gould Harding (1916-22), Daniel Richard Crissinger (1923-27), Roy Archibald Young (1927-30), Eugene Isaac Meyer (1930-33), Eugene Robert Black (1933-34), Arthur Frank Burns (1970-78), Paul Adolph Volcker (1979-87), Alan Greenspan (1987-2006) and Ben Bernanke, all Jewish.

    On December 27, 2013, Andrian Salbuchi, an investigative journalist and author living in Argentina, posted an article, titled, ‘FED up? Hundred years of manipulating the US dollar‘.

    https://rehmat1.com/tag/federal-reserve/

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  11. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Hi, just wanted to say, Linh Dinh, I really appreciate you always finding interesting people and amplifying their voices. Sometimes it feels like authors on here are full of ideas with no evidence, but your interviews return to the bare facts of the world. You are not wrapped up in your own pet theories; you are really interested in your fellow man. Thank you.

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  12. The Jews screwed Fisher so one can understand his anger at them. The only country I know to jail the crooked banksters and not give into their blackmail.

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  13. ”white nationalism is experiencing a revival, —– with Trump its most visible indicator”

    Not exactly.

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  14. Wally [AKA "BobbyBeGood"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    The mentioned righteous Jew and chessmaster, Bobby Fischer, is not the only Jew to shoot down the laughable and impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    Quotes from a book by Revisionist Jew, Gerard Menuhin, the son of the famed Jewish violinist Yehuda Menuhin:

    TELL THE TRUTH & SHAME THE DEVIL
    By GERARD MENUHIN
    Copyright 2015 by GERARD MENUHIN and THE BARNES REVIEW
    Published by:
    THE BARNES REVIEW, P.O. Box 15877, Washington, D.C. 20003
    available at: https://shop.codoh.com/book/406

    p.303, paperback ed.
    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.

    quotes from .pdf version, pagination may be slightly different:
    p.173
    “Those ultimately responsible for this hopeless situation have succeeded in their conspiracy: they have created, with the aid of “holocaust” professionals and propaganda, the necessary climate of guilt whereby never-ending legal as well as illegal immigration goes unchallenged, resulting in a fractured society, civil unrest and inadequate social funds. The desired massive debt is therefore programmed. Jewish influence has achieved the dissolution of a once cohesive community.”

    p.305
    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”

    p.458
    “Jewish huckstering is most obviously apparent in its frenzied compulsion to uphold the “holocaust” myth, whose exposure would not only refute the Jews’ claim to Palestine and to endless financial reparations and atonement for harm not done to them, it would also deliver Jews and their minions to the fury of a world deceived and victimized for centuries by their lies and conspiracies.”

    also see:
    ‘quotes from Gerard Menuhin: Revisionist Jew, Son of Famous Violinist’

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10013

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Fischer said:

    The country will be taken over by the military, they’ll close down all the synagogues, arrest all the Jews, execute hundreds of thousands of Jewish ringleaders.
     
    That's "righteous"?
  15. @Anonymous Nephew
    "In Reykjavik, there’s a very odd sight of a train locomotive, plopped near the ocean. Since Iceland never had a rail system, this is just for show. As a symbol of Iceland’s geographical isolation, this going nowhere locomotive is perfect."

    The British (IIRC) built a small railway when the Reykjavik harbour was constructed, the German-made locos are from that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_transport_in_Iceland

    A country with a large amount of seismic and volcanic activity isn't the best place for railways, and until recently there wasn't much outside the capital to go to. Even the main Route 1, which goes round the entire island, has lengthy gravel-road stretches in the east.

    Moldbug on the American origins of modern (post-1945) anti-Americanism:

    http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/08/secret-of-anti-americanism.html

    … I believe anti-Americanism is best described as an epiphenomenon of Universalism. The single most significant fact about the world today is that sixty-two years ago it was conquered by a military alliance whose leader was the United States, and whose creed of battle was this nontheistic adaptation of New England mainline Protestantism. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the European ruling class holds essentially the same perspectives that were held at Harvard in 1945. The US Army did not shoot all the professors in Europe and replace them with Yankee carpetbaggers, but the prestige of conquest is such that it might as well have.

    It makes sense to view anti-Americanism as a postwar phenomenon, because it’s hard to find anything in Europe’s prewar political scene that corresponds to it. Before WWII, a European who found American influences pernicious was most likely a man of the Right, generally either an anti-Wilsonian aristocrat or a Bonapartist nationalist demagogue. After the war, and especially since the rise of the postwar-educated generation of 1968, European anti-Americanism has been overwhelmingly on the Left. Considering the animosity between these factions, it’s hard to find any continuity between them.

    A lot of people (e.g., Francis Parker Yockey) would say it also has partially Jewish origins.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    Apparently the Icelanders watch more "movies" than any other people in the world (very long dark nights in winter). So do SWPL (i.e. Hollywood) values enter into them.
  16. Allen Ginsberg hardly wrote anything good after Howl. Lots of graphing the movement of his mind and then some third rate Blakean Man/Boy love epics (at least, from memory) but not much else.

    Maybe that’s beside the point w/r/t his role as a facilitator of a poetry scene, but anyway the winds of the avant-garde blew in another direction and we got the horrid language poets. They were certainly already in the ascendancy while Ginsberg was still alive. If we are going to talk about poetry gangs.

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  17. Who would want to hang out with Ron Silliman? I sure wouldn’t. Is he at Penn now or something? I’ve lost track/tack.

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  18. Last year, the Zionist regime blasted Iceland for the boycott of its products by country’s capital city council over the Jewish occupation of Palestinian territories, describing it as a volcano of hatred.

    “A volcano of hatred is erupting in Reykjavik city council. Without any reason and justification beside pure hatred, calls are being issued to boycott the state of Israel,” whined Jewish foreign ministry spokesperson Emmanuel Nahshon.

    The European Union has called for the boycott of Jewish products produced in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem. The United Nations calls Jewish settlements illegal in the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel in June 1967, formerly administered by Jordanian ‘royals’.

    On Friday, the LA-based Jewish lobby group, Simon Wiesenthal Center issued a travelling warning for Jews wishing to visit Reykjavik. Rabbi Abraham Cooper, the head of the group said that while Iceland was a popular destination with Jews and Israelis, “when the elected leaders of its main city passes an extreme anti-Israel and antisemitic law, we would caution any member of Jewish community about travelling there.”

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/09/21/israel-icelanders-hate-jews/

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  19. You really should avoid all that alcohol, Linh (I’m going by that pic, in addition to all your articles about bars).

    Its not just the well-known liver diseases but also damage to the brain:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol-related_brain_damage

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol-related_dementia

    You would think your Muslim friends around here would mention something, but apparently not.

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    • Agree: edNels
    • Replies: @Mark Green
    Wine is a very healthy beverage. Moderate wine drinkers live longer and healthier lives than non-drinkers. This is an established fact.

    Incredibly, even heavy boozers live longer than abstainers. Amazing, but true. Cheers!

    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2017200,00.html

    , @grapesoda
    What are you Linh Dinh's wife? I drink a lot and I don't have any dain bramage
  20. @anony-mouse
    You really should avoid all that alcohol, Linh (I'm going by that pic, in addition to all your articles about bars).

    Its not just the well-known liver diseases but also damage to the brain:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol-related_brain_damage

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol-related_dementia

    You would think your Muslim friends around here would mention something, but apparently not.

    Wine is a very healthy beverage. Moderate wine drinkers live longer and healthier lives than non-drinkers. This is an established fact.

    Incredibly, even heavy boozers live longer than abstainers. Amazing, but true. Cheers!

    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2017200,00.html

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  21. Linh Dinh,

    This is probably the finest article I have read from you. So glad it was not yet another loser from U.S.

    One question puzzles me though; when you ask him where he may like to immigrate, he picks “The US, Russia, China”; Why doesn’t pick a nearby European country like Spain, Italy, Portugal or even Greece. They are all nicer than Iceland and I would argue the other three countries too.

    Can I await a similar column about someone from Greenland? I have always been curious why some people like to live in really harsh places. After all, Eiríkur Örn Norðdahl didn’t sound like a moron like many of your other interviewees.

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    • Replies: @grapesoda
    Because they're bigger and there's plenty of room to roam around, particularly when it comes to things like residency and citizenship. You don't want to be confined to a small country. (Btw he literally said two seconds before the part you quoted "some huge place I’ve not really been to before.")

    I can relate. Russia is an excellent choice for SHTF bug out country. Shhh don't tell anyone about my plans. There is only so much land in Russia...
    , @wrd9
    No, Norðdahl is a moron, he just happens to be a European one.
  22. @epebble
    Linh Dinh,

    This is probably the finest article I have read from you. So glad it was not yet another loser from U.S.

    One question puzzles me though; when you ask him where he may like to immigrate, he picks "The US, Russia, China"; Why doesn't pick a nearby European country like Spain, Italy, Portugal or even Greece. They are all nicer than Iceland and I would argue the other three countries too.

    Can I await a similar column about someone from Greenland? I have always been curious why some people like to live in really harsh places. After all, Eiríkur Örn Norðdahl didn't sound like a moron like many of your other interviewees.

    Because they’re bigger and there’s plenty of room to roam around, particularly when it comes to things like residency and citizenship. You don’t want to be confined to a small country. (Btw he literally said two seconds before the part you quoted “some huge place I’ve not really been to before.”)

    I can relate. Russia is an excellent choice for SHTF bug out country. Shhh don’t tell anyone about my plans. There is only so much land in Russia…

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  23. @anony-mouse
    You really should avoid all that alcohol, Linh (I'm going by that pic, in addition to all your articles about bars).

    Its not just the well-known liver diseases but also damage to the brain:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol-related_brain_damage

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol-related_dementia

    You would think your Muslim friends around here would mention something, but apparently not.

    What are you Linh Dinh’s wife? I drink a lot and I don’t have any dain bramage

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  24. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Wally
    The mentioned righteous Jew and chessmaster, Bobby Fischer, is not the only Jew to shoot down the laughable and impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers'.

    Quotes from a book by Revisionist Jew, Gerard Menuhin, the son of the famed Jewish violinist Yehuda Menuhin:


    TELL THE TRUTH & SHAME THE DEVIL
    By GERARD MENUHIN
    Copyright 2015 by GERARD MENUHIN and THE BARNES REVIEW
    Published by:
    THE BARNES REVIEW, P.O. Box 15877, Washington, D.C. 20003
    available at: https://shop.codoh.com/book/406

    p.303, paperback ed.
    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.

    quotes from .pdf version, pagination may be slightly different:
    p.173
    "Those ultimately responsible for this hopeless situation have succeeded in their conspiracy: they have created, with the aid of “holocaust” professionals and propaganda, the necessary climate of guilt whereby never-ending legal as well as illegal immigration goes unchallenged, resulting in a fractured society, civil unrest and inadequate social funds. The desired massive debt is therefore programmed. Jewish influence has achieved the dissolution of a once cohesive community."

    p.305
    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

    p.458
    "Jewish huckstering is most obviously apparent in its frenzied compulsion to uphold the “holocaust” myth, whose exposure would not only refute the Jews’ claim to Palestine and to endless financial reparations and atonement for harm not done to them, it would also deliver Jews and their minions to the fury of a world deceived and victimized for centuries by their lies and conspiracies."
     

    also see:
    'quotes from Gerard Menuhin: Revisionist Jew, Son of Famous Violinist'
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10013

    Fischer said:

    The country will be taken over by the military, they’ll close down all the synagogues, arrest all the Jews, execute hundreds of thousands of Jewish ringleaders.

    That’s “righteous”?

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    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    "That’s 'righteous'”?

    Maybe.

    Kinda like JC driving the money changers from the temple, 21st century version.

  25. @epebble
    Linh Dinh,

    This is probably the finest article I have read from you. So glad it was not yet another loser from U.S.

    One question puzzles me though; when you ask him where he may like to immigrate, he picks "The US, Russia, China"; Why doesn't pick a nearby European country like Spain, Italy, Portugal or even Greece. They are all nicer than Iceland and I would argue the other three countries too.

    Can I await a similar column about someone from Greenland? I have always been curious why some people like to live in really harsh places. After all, Eiríkur Örn Norðdahl didn't sound like a moron like many of your other interviewees.

    No, Norðdahl is a moron, he just happens to be a European one.

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  26. “The cynic in me wishes you’d vote in the buffoon Trump—hoping that it would just cause everything to spin out of control and crumble.”

    For the first time in decades there’s a chance to elect a POTUS who isn’t aligned with Wall Street and the war lobby and a hipster dimwit dismisses it with a really lame remark.

    Not that I’m surprised.

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    • Replies: @Outwest
    Well, the idea behind Trump is to replace the present system that excludes the everyday person. I suppose that’s spinning out of their control and crumbling. Before a new system can be implemented the old one has to go. It may well be a multistep process.
  27. @fnn
    Moldbug on the American origins of modern (post-1945) anti-Americanism:
    http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/08/secret-of-anti-americanism.html

    ... I believe anti-Americanism is best described as an epiphenomenon of Universalism. The single most significant fact about the world today is that sixty-two years ago it was conquered by a military alliance whose leader was the United States, and whose creed of battle was this nontheistic adaptation of New England mainline Protestantism. I don't think it's a coincidence that the European ruling class holds essentially the same perspectives that were held at Harvard in 1945. The US Army did not shoot all the professors in Europe and replace them with Yankee carpetbaggers, but the prestige of conquest is such that it might as well have.

    It makes sense to view anti-Americanism as a postwar phenomenon, because it's hard to find anything in Europe's prewar political scene that corresponds to it. Before WWII, a European who found American influences pernicious was most likely a man of the Right, generally either an anti-Wilsonian aristocrat or a Bonapartist nationalist demagogue. After the war, and especially since the rise of the postwar-educated generation of 1968, European anti-Americanism has been overwhelmingly on the Left. Considering the animosity between these factions, it's hard to find any continuity between them.
     
    A lot of people (e.g., Francis Parker Yockey) would say it also has partially Jewish origins.

    Apparently the Icelanders watch more “movies” than any other people in the world (very long dark nights in winter). So do SWPL (i.e. Hollywood) values enter into them.

    Read More
  28. @fnn
    "The cynic in me wishes you’d vote in the buffoon Trump—hoping that it would just cause everything to spin out of control and crumble."

    For the first time in decades there's a chance to elect a POTUS who isn't aligned with Wall Street and the war lobby and a hipster dimwit dismisses it with a really lame remark.

    Not that I'm surprised.

    Well, the idea behind Trump is to replace the present system that excludes the everyday person. I suppose that’s spinning out of their control and crumbling. Before a new system can be implemented the old one has to go. It may well be a multistep process.

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  29. @Anonymous
    Fischer said:

    The country will be taken over by the military, they’ll close down all the synagogues, arrest all the Jews, execute hundreds of thousands of Jewish ringleaders.
     
    That's "righteous"?

    “That’s ‘righteous’”?

    Maybe.

    Kinda like JC driving the money changers from the temple, 21st century version.

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