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In 1988 and 1989 I lived in the heart of Paris, on Boulevard Henri IV just a few minutes’ walk from the Notre Dame cathedral—the best known and most-visited Catholic monument this side of St. Peter’s Square. Dedicated to the Holy Virgin Mary, beloved by both Christians and Muslims, Notre Dame is a product and symbol of the period some consider the high point of Western civilization, the 12th and 13th Christian centuries. Those were the years when long-lost knowledge filtered into Europe from Byzantium, the Holy Land, and Muslim Spain, triggering an amazing burst of spiritual, artistic, intellectual, and technological creativity. Among the most impressive products of that astonishing period were the great Gothic cathedrals.

On 15 April 2019, around 18:45 CEST, fires simultaneously broke out in the Christian and Islamic world’s greatest iconic monuments, Notre Dame cathedral and the al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem. The Notre Dame fire did the most damage and grabbed headlines.

It is easy to see why the world paid more attention to the Paris tragedy. Images of Notre Dame in flames, its roof and spire collapsing, inspired shock and dread—not unlike the explosive “collapses” on September 11, 2001. And it wasn’t just humans, who are capable of feeling emotions including shock and dread, that noticed the resemblance. YouTube’s conspiracy filter algorithm misfired by defacing videos of the Notre Dame inferno with a pop-up summarizing the official story of 9/11. The YouTube algorithm, which apparently is not very artificially intelligent, mistook news videos of the cathedral fire for scientific documentaries about the explosive demolition of the World Trade Center. Conclusion: If the YouTube whizzes are stupid enough to insist on defacing scientific documentaries with annoying pop-ups shoving the absurd and thoroughly-discredited official story of 9/11 down our throats, whatever “Artificial Intelligence” they create will probably be at least as dumb as they are. (Only a paranoid conspiracy theorist would suspect that the 9/11 OCT tags were intentionally inserted to cue a subliminal Islamophobic subtext to the Notre Dame fire. Right?)

It wasn’t just AI (Artificial Idiocy) that vaguely sensed some obscure connection between the Notre Dame blaze and the events of 9/11. Many of us who felt shock and dread on September 11, 2001 later discovered that our emotions had been manipulated by the neocon-Zionist operatives who engineered that false flag spectacle. So whenever we start to feel similar emotions while watching a superficially similar televised spectacle, we ask ourselves: Are we being manipulated yet again?

One expert who answers “yes” is Robert David Steele. A key founder of the Open Source Intelligence (OSI) movement, Steele is a former CIA Clandestine Services Officer who admits to having helped orchestrate a false flag for the Agency. In an interview Steele told me that the Notre Dame inferno was deliberately set. Steele said a well-placed Parisian source told him that the fire started in an area with no electricity, firefighting efforts were inadequate, the official narrative was rolled out too quickly, and there were reports of murdered individuals in the fire area and intelligence people being barred from the scene.

So who did it? Rabbi Shlomo Aviner, who ministers to a flock of fanatical settlers in the occupied West Bank, blames someone named Yahweh. The good rabbi thinks Yahweh was angry because “the first big Talmud burning was in Paris, there in the plaza of the Notre Dame Cathedral.” Yahweh might also have been ticked off because Notre Dame, the Zionist newspaper JTA tells us, is a monument to anti-Semitism, its Jew-hatred literally “carved in stone.”

So who is this Yahweh who nurses a grudge for eight centuries before resorting to arson? (Apparently even fiery revenge is a dish best served cold.) Laurent Guyénot’s From Yahweh to Zion explains that “Yahweh” has always been a stand-in for the Jewish tribal priesthood, who disguise their own self-interest as the will of God. So in essence Rabbi Schlomo blames the Elders of Zion for torching Notre Dame. Sounds like an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory to me! Somebody call the ADL!

And speaking of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, someone should report the Times of Israel for publishing a story headlined “Radical Jewish group’s head advocates burning churches: Benzi Gopshtain of Lehava says Jewish law mandates putting churches to the torch, prepared to sit in prison for saying so.” Undoubtedly Gopshtain is far from the only rabbi who thinks Yahweh wants churches burned; his real crime, the Times suggests, was saying it in public.

If one of the suspects is a group of intergenerational criminals who blame their crimes on “Yahweh,” another is the President of France and his minions. The blaze broke out at the perfect moment for French President Macron to use it as an excuse to postpone his long-anticipated address on the Yellow Vest uprising. Had Macron gone ahead with the speech, he reportedly would have rejected the Yellow Vests’ key demands including a wealth tax on the 1% and instead offered paltry tax cuts, which would undoubtedly have instigated an escalation of the insurrection. Instead, thanks to the Notre Dame fire, Macron was at least temporarily let off the hook. Ignoring the Yellow Vests, Macron exploited the widespread shock and sorrow to pose as a heroic uniter of the French people in their hour of distress—a bit like Hitler after the Reichstag Fire or Bush after 9/11. But unfortunately for Macron, the “9/11 Bush effect” wore off quickly, perhaps because no scapegoat had been officially appointed to take the blame for the fire—or perhaps due to the higher false flag awareness in 2019, at least among the Yellow Vests, who were back in the streets five days later.

So let us continue our rundown of possible suspects. Robert David Steele argues that the Notre Dame fire was the work of a criminal syndicate that more or less includes but is not limited to the forces of “Yahweh” and Macron. According to Steele, the Deep State behind the Notre Dame inferno is a cabal of globalist Satanists, Zionists, and pedophiles, who viewed the act as a twisted sort of religious (or anti-religious) sacrifice.

Anti-religious terrorists?! The possibility does not seem especially remote. We are witnessing a global upsurge of anti-religious terrorism, as exemplified by recent attacks on houses of worship in New Zealand and Sri Lanka.

Critically important clue: The single most suspicious aspect of the Notre Dame fire was the “coincidentally” simultaneous al-Aqsa fire. The idea that the world’s most iconic Christian house of worship, and the world’s most iconic Muslim house of worship, would “just happen” to catch fire simultaneously would strain the credulity of the craziest coincidence theorist.

The al-Aqsa mosque is the Islamic world’s greatest architectural and spiritual monument. It commemorates the spot where the Prophet Muhammad rose through the seven heavens, meeting earlier prophets including Moses and Jesus en route to the Divine Presence. The al-Aqsa Mosque with its magnificent Dome on the Rock is the living, beating heart of Islam. Nonetheless it is unofficially slated for annihilation by Zionist fanatics, who intend to build a blood sacrifice temple on the site. And the Antichrist’s time may be approaching. According to The Guardian, Netanyahu is about to “go rogue” and take Israel’s escalating attacks on Christian and Islamic holy sites to the next level.

If indeed we have just witnessed simultaneous arson attacks on the Christian and Islamic world’s most iconic buildings, the logical suspects would be people who hate those two great schools of universal monotheism in general, and universal monotheism’s messiah Jesus in particular. (Islam and Christianity agree that Jesus is the messiah, revering him and his mother the virgin Mary; while Judaism despises Jesus as a bastard and his mother as a whore. Obviously the Jewish “Messiah,” then, will be the Antichrist.) Anti-universal-monotheism ideologies, which might be termed the ideologies of Antichrist, include atheism, Satanism, humanism, materialism, and at least some varieties of Judaism. Extremist believers in these ideologies have long colluded to wage covert war against Christianity and Islam under the banner of freemasonry.

The last time French churches were under this kind of attack was during the Illuminati-driven French Revolution. Is something similar happening now? Was it just a coincidence that Paris’s other great historic church, St. Sulpice, burst into flames on March 17, less than a month before the blaze at Notre Dame? And how about the hundreds of other French churches that are being attacked on a daily basis? 875 French churches were vandalized in 2018 in a wave of organized terrorism by “radical secularists or anti-religion groups” according to French civil rights activist Ellen Fatini, quoted in Newsweek. Meanwhile Satanists and other anti-religion ideologues, not white nationalists, are burning American churches too. Holden Matthews, a Satanic music cultist recently arrested for burning historic black churches in Louisiana, is just the latest example.

If you were conducting a centuries-old war on religion in general and Christianity and Islam in particular, your best strategy might be to trick the Christians and Muslims into fighting each other and doing your dirty work for you. Rabbi Don Isaac Abrabanel, the original Zionist, hatched such a plan five centuries ago. Abrabanel believed that an apocalyptic Christian-vs.-Muslim war would help the Jewish Messiah (the Antichrist to Christians and Muslims) wreak vengeance on the goyim and rule the world from Jerusalem. Benjamin Netanyahu’s father Benzion, a colleague of the terrorist Jabotinsky, wrote a book on Abarbanel highlighting and celebrating his apocalyptic Zionism. The only thing wrong with Abarbanel’s plan, Benzion Netanyahu thought, was Don Isaac’s inability to understand that it wouldn’t happen overnight, but would require centuries of careful planning in the cold clear light of realpolitik.

Those five centuries of planning “Operation Antichrist,” the ultimate revenge on the goyim, may be nearing fruition. Since 9/11 the (post)Christian and Muslim worlds have been warring in an artificially orchestrated “clash of civilizations”—a term coined by Bernard Lewis, Netanyahu’s man in MI6. And today the level of anti-religious terrorism, much of it seemingly designed to stir up a Christian-vs.-Muslim apocalypse, is heading off the charts.

The massacre of Easter worshippers in Sri Lanka, ostensibly by a radical Muslim group that nobody including Sri Lankan Muslims themselves has ever heard of, might reasonably supposed to have been a Mossad-enabled false flag like 9/11, Bali, Madrid, 7/7, Mumbai, Charlie Hebdo, and many others. The Sri Lankan operation, like the Christchurch massacre and the Notre Dame blaze, serves only to fan the flames of the “clash of civilizations” in service to the Bibi/Abarbanel plan to destroy al-Aqsa and erect the Temple of Antichrist in its place. That would seem to be its only possible strategic purpose. There is no history whatsoever of meaningful Muslim involvement in the Buddhist-vs.-Hindu-secularist violence that has plagued Sri Lanka, and no conceivable strategic purpose that such an act could serve for any segment of the local Muslim population.

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Our reading of these events is supported by the investigative work of Paris-based independent journalist Hicham Hamza, who reports that prior to the Notre Dame fire, security duties at the cathedral had just been handed to Philippe Laflandre, former head of the French counter-espionage outfit DST. According to Hamza, Lafland has a history of corruption and “pédo-satanic” freemasonic and Mossad connections: the same pattern as key suspects in the Charlie Hebdo false flag event who are named in the final section of my edited book We Are NOT Charlie Hebdo.

One may reasonably ask: What would be the perpetrators’ purpose in torching Notre Dame and al-Aqsa at the same time? Doesn’t such brazenness effectively tip their hand? Indeed it does; that seems to be the point. As US Army Intelligence officer Captain Eric May repeatedly pointed out before his untimely demise, and as SK Bain eloquently explains in The Most Dangerous Book in the World, the Zio-satanic-freemasonic criminals “tag” their work in the same way that small-time gang-bangers do. But instead of spraying graffiti, the big-time gangsters use symbols and foreshadowing, including “predictive programming.” Jason Wilcox explains: “In 1977, an article by Vincent Salandria entitled ‘The Design of the Warren Report to Fall to Pieces‘ was published. It suggested that the Kennedy assassination was a ‘transparent conspiracy,’ that is, a conspiracy hidden in plain sight. Clues were left behind, as if they wanted us to know.” According to May, Wilcox, and others, elite criminals “tag” their work not only as a boast, and a signal to their colleagues, but also to inculcate learned helplessness in the population: “We can do it right out in the open, in your face, and you can’t do anything to stop us.” And so the message of the simultaneous fires would have been: “We can burn down Notre Dame in plain sight. Al-Aqsa is next.”

There have been lengthy discussions about predictive programming in relation to 9/11: The Lone Gunman episode (produced by Likud asset Rupert Murdoch) showing remote-controlled planes targeting the World Trade Center, broadcast just months before the actual event; the famous Simpsons episode that even the New York Times admits is inexplicable; Hollywood’s top Mossadnik Arnan Milchan’s film The Medusa Touch; and much more.

A possible case of predictive programming is the New Zealand gunman’s use of the song “fire,” which in hindsight seems to point ahead to the Notre Dame and al-Aqsa blazes. AP describes the shooter’s allegedly livestreamed video: “The gunman then walks back into the mosque, where there are at least two dozen people lying on the ground. After walking back outside and shooting a woman there, he gets back in his car, where the song ‘Fire’ by English rock band ‘The Crazy World of Arthur Brown’ can be heard blasting from the speakers. The singer bellows, ‘I am the god of hellfire’ and the gunman drives away. The video then cuts out.” The song’s lyrics include:

I am the god of hell fire, and I bring you!
Fire, I’ll take you to burn.
Fire, I’ll take you to learn.
I’ll see you burn!

You’ve fought hard and you saved and earned,
but all of it’s going to burn.
And your mind, your tiny mind,
you know you’ve really been so blind.
Now’s your time, burn your mind,
You’re falling far too far behind.
Oh no, oh no, oh no, you’re gonna burn!

Fire, to destroy all you’ve done.
Fire, to end all you’ve become.
I’ll feel you burn!

Coincidentally or not, the next big disaster at a house of worship was the Notre Dame fire. The New Zealand gunman’s use of “Fire” as predictive programming is reminiscent of the “blood heart” 11/13/15 Bataclan nightclub massacre photo, which signaled that the next big terror attack would target the Brussels Airport. As I wrote at the time:

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“Who painted a big, bloody heart on the corpse-strewn floor of the Bataclan theater, and why? Who took the famous picture? Who released it – illegally – to the public? Why hasn’t the owner of that extremely valuable photograph stepped forward to claim it … and to sue me for using it, without anybody’s permission, on the cover of the book ANOTHER French False Flag? We now have tentative answers to some of these questions. The shocking photo of the Bataclan ‘blood heart’ was first broadcast to the world (illegally – the French law forbids the diffusion of such photos) by an Israeli group called United Hatzalah. And by a shocking ‘coincidence,’ a member of the same group is the source of key propaganda videos of passengers trapped in the Brussels airport after the recent bombings, as reported by Panamza.com.”

There are many other examples of false flaggers tagging their work, often with satanic/freemasonic symbolism. Perhaps the most notable example is the choice of the biggest freemasonic symbols—the Twin Towers (Joachim and Boaz) and the Pentragram/Pentagon—as targets on 9/11. And then there was the self-congratulatory billboard on the side of the bus targeted on 7/7/2005:

There is plenty more to be said about the circumstantial evidence and historical context of the Notre Dame fire. But is there any actual evidence that it was deliberately set?

One major red flag is the apparent contradiction between the official story—the fire was the result of an electrical short circuit—and highly credible reports that there was no electricity in the area where the fire started. Minor red flags include the earlier arrest of an Israeli for illegally conducting drone surveillance of the cathedral; a YouTube posted April 11, four days before the fire, by a self-styled clairvoyant named Rubenstein predicting an imminent “fire in one of France’s great buildings”; and the odd coincidence that on the same day as Rubenstein’s prediction, April 11, the cathedral management announced that on April 15 Notre Dame’s Towers would close at 17:30 instead of the usual 18:45. (The fire would break out on that very day, April 15, around 18:45, in a building unusually free of tourists.)

The Cathedral did remain “open” (unburned) until precisely 6:45 pm on Monday April 15. From that moment on it has been closed due to a fire that the French authorities, notorious for their subservience to Zionism and freemasonry, blame on a short circuit in an area with no electricity.

 
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  1. El Dato says:

    Chill with the free association exercises. Being beset by look-elsewhere effects is no laughing matter.

    One expert who answers “yes” is Robert David Steele. A key founder of the Open Source Intelligence (OSI) movement, Steele is a former CIA Clandestine Services Officer who admits to having helped orchestrate a false flag for the Agency. In an interview Steele told me that the Notre Dame inferno was deliberately set. Steele said a well-placed Parisian source told him that the fire started in an area with no electricity, firefighting efforts were inadequate, the official narrative was rolled out too quickly, and there were reports of murdered individuals in the fire area and intelligence people being barred from the scene

    Is this real? That’s very extrordinary. Reports of murdered individuals? Really? I would say the pompiers would have said something by now about this. How come Mr. Steele knows anything about this? Is he operational in the local operative cells? Why should anyone trust this “well-placed Parisian source”, if it even exists?

    As they say [citation needed].

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  2. His source may be wrong. Some of Steele’s sources and assertions do strike me as dubious. Others not. Listen to the interview and see what you think.

    • Agree: freedom-cat
    • Replies: @Che Guava
  3. Polemos says:

    The Salandria link returns back to here.

    Sorry for continuing the “free association exercise”, but (just an American observation) April 15, 5:30 and 6:45 are 04 15, 05 30, 06 45. Is the next in the sequence 07 60 or 07 00? Obviously switching to military time or international dating schemes shows this is a useless observation.

    From the standpoint of accepting there’s a collective unconsciousness whom we all share, or a total akashic record we all access, one/another way of explaining these predictions is as bleed over into our imaginative and conscious creative activities. We are spiritual beings not all of whom have awoken to walking and listening with those who are already on “the other side”, and some of our artists pay no attention to who whispers into their endeavors. Others know full well whose side they want to win (but maybe don’t believe or grasp that we are all One). But, of course, no one must accept this and many are free to pass off this mumbo-jumbo.

    But what about you, Kevin? Do you think the magic they want to invoke really does work, or do you think they believe in it but you withhold judgment, or some other view? Either way, I’m going to go get your Another book and check out what else my libraries have of yours. 😉

  4. wayfarer says:

    “Michele Bachmann and Alex Jones on Biblical Prophecy”

    • Replies: @Nona
  5. So who is this Yahweh

    Yahweh was first and foremost a minor god in the pagan Canaanite religion. Not violent, nor murderous, not revengeful, nothing bad.

    Aside from plagiarizing ancient stories and concepts from Mesopotamia, the vile and mendacious authors of the Tanakh (aka Hebrew Bible, aka Old Testament) copied the Canaanite religion, vilified it and created their version out of it. Yahweh became The God of their religion; a violent, murderous and revengeful God.

    Ugarit and the Bible
    http://prophetess.lstc.edu/~rklein/Doc6/ugarit.htm

  6. ababush says:

    All architects and Building engineers who knew the place said (some publicly) that such a fire could be triggered by a simple electrical incident was impossible (2000 degC are needed according to a building engineer) due to the size and density of the oak beams. Impossible also that it could happen in such a short time. Also, no hot work had been performed on the roof that fay, and no electricity was on.
    Furthermore, the yellow color of the smoke could only be possible with the use of thermite.

    Some neighbours said the it took more than one hour after smoke could be seen on the roof for the firefighter to start to fight it.
    Some people who attended the office said that after the first alarm (supposedly false) at around 18H30, and before the second one, they could here a big noise, as an explosion.

    This is a botched job or as said in the article, it looks like a conspiracy hidden in plain sight.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    , @hasmat
  7. utu says:

    All this about predictive programming, numerology and symbology is baed on very shaky grounds methodologically. But it can’t be absolutely disproven though it could be effectively ridiculed so most people with sound minds will not buy into it, however it can turn out to be true after all just as the characters of Umberto Eco novel: Foucault’s Pendulum found out after toying with idea itself as a spoof or a joke as if they brought the conspiracy and secret societies to life just by incantation of the idea itself. Was Umberto Eco warning against silly games? Or was he warning about losing one’s mind because once you lose it, the reality will conspire to keep you insane?

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  8. Anon[214] • Disclaimer says:

    Blame Arsonist Jewsus.

    Luke 12:49 says: “I have come to set the world on fire, and I wish it were already burning!”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  9. Kevin, what about the recent murder of a journalist by “the New IRA”, it got me thinking if Israel has a role in this and also in the “old IRA”, because Israel could have an interest in stirring violence elsewhere so it can say: “See, it is not just in Israel/Palestine there is violence”.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  10. wct+tft=nsr
    wild conspiracy theory (macron did it!)
    tall fairy tale (mahomet flew!)
    none sense rubbish
    mr.unz, please discriminate what you publish

  11. There’s a reason why we value the oak as a national symbol.
    One is, Oaks survive forest fires. Easy.

  12. RouterAl says:

    Question , why was the smoke white not black. Go find yourself some YouTube videos of big fires , the smoke is black ( due to incomplete combustion ). The roof void is an enclosed space , the bottom of the roof space consists of the vaulted roof of the church , there are the roof timbers , there seems to be no sarking (timber on which the lead sits) and finally the lead. This would result in a fire that is being starved of oxygen, inside the roof space, it would need to melt the lead to get enough oxygen to burn let alone with a white smoke and it seems unlikely to me that that this would happen.
    Any firefighters out there care to comment I would be interested to hear their comments.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  13. mikemikev says:

    Isn’t the “blood heart” survivors dragging bodies around other bodies?

  14. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    LOL!

    Is that supposed to Jesus or Chuckie?

  15. @El Dato

    Who says “citation needed?” Isn’t that a typical Wikipedia trope?

  16. @anno nimus

    Are you against free speech? But you say what YOU WANT don’t you?

  17. Millions of Muslims here in Germany.
    Noone has seen them on the street when we Germans demonstrated against US wars.
    All under jiddish control?

    • Replies: @Alden
  18. The Gothic architectural style takes its origins from Cluny in the 10th century. It did experience constant development until the 15th century, but it owes next to nothing to the classical world which Europe was introduced to via Byzantium and later the Italian Renaissance.

    It’s nice to see a writer introducing his article with so blatant historical inaccuracy. You don’t need to read all the way through the 9/11 controlled demolition theories to know his work belongs in the moon landing conspiracy pile.

    • Replies: @Republic
    , @Nick T
  19. Blubb says:

    Sorry, this story of the poor Muslims being set up as the scapegoat just doesn’t fadge. What about the thousands of European victims to Muslim (gang) rape, Muslim gang beatings/ killings, etc? I know some cases, personally, I’ve been a victim, myself!

    Pedophile Satanists may well be a problem, but my enemies’ enemy isn’t necessarily my friend. Stupid thing to think.

    They’ve got to go back, whether they put Our Lady of Paris on fire or not.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  20. anon[215] • Disclaimer says:

    John Gunther Dean, now 92, and a former American ambassador to five countries, has long maintained that Israel was behind his attempted assassination on August 28, 1980, in a suburb of Beirut, which was attributed to a rightwing Lebanese group. Dean and his wife and daughter and son-in-law were in a motorcade and narrowly escaped serious injury.

    Dean said that he was targeted because he was doing something regarded as antithetical to Israel’s interest: consulting with the Palestine Liberation Organization and its head, Yasser Arafat, at a time when such contacts were the third rail in US politics. He was also outspokenly critical of Israeli attacks on Lebanon.

    A new book offers backing to Dean’s claim. But while that book has been highly-publicized, the question of whether Israel attacked our ambassador has gotten no attention in the press. That is not a surprise; for Dean has asserted that the case itself was never thoroughly investigated by the U.S. government.

    Let’s begin this story where I first heard about it, from historian Remi Brulin’s twitter thread on May 30:

    “On August 28, 1980, the three-car motorcade of John Gunther Dean, the American Ambassador to Lebanon, was attacked on the motorway by several assailants armed with automatic rifles as well as light anti-tank weapons or LAWs. The ambassador and his wife escaped unscathed.

    “This attack is in RAND’s ‘terrorism’ database. Entry states that ‘responsibility for attack was later claimed by the Front for the Liberation of Lebanon from Foreigners, a shadowy right-wing group.’ Various media outlets at the time reported on FLLF taking credit for the attack…

    “Over the years Ambassador Dean has repeatedly argued that Israel was behind the August 1980 attempt on his life. In an interview for the Oral History Project in September 2000, he explained how the Lebanese Intelligence services had managed to retrieve the empty canisters of two of the light anti-tank weapons (LAWs) that had been used during the attack on his motorcade and, during raiding a house by the intersection where the assault had taken place, found 8 more. Dean collected the numbers on the 10 missiles & sent them to Washington to be traced.

    “Three weeks (and one angry phone call) later, the US Ambassador finally learned ‘where the light anti-tank weapons came from, where they were shipped to, on what date, who paid for them, and when they got to their destination.’

    “The LAWs had been manufactured in the US and ‘were sold and shipped to Israel in 1974.’ In this interview, Dean further states that he “did find out a great deal about this incident’ over the following years, and calls this assassination attempt ‘one of the more unsavory episodes in our Middle Eastern history’ and ends by noting that ‘our Ambassador to Israel, Sam Lewis, took up this matter with the Israeli authorities.’

    “Dean concludes: ‘I know as surely as I know anything that Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, was somehow involved in the attack. Undoubtedly using a proxy, our ally Israel had tried to kill me.’ [Haaretz covered Dean’s claim, made in his 2009 autobiography; so did The Nation]

    “All of this has been known for years, although it is very rarely discussed in the US media. When discussed, Dean’s assertions/accusations are dismissed as conspiracy theories.

    “In January however, a book was published that appears to reinforce the plausibility of Dean’s position. The book is Ronen Bergman’s Rise and Kill First. It has received rave reviews in the US press, and its author has been interviewed countless times since the book was published. The book focuses on Israeli ‘targeted assassinations’ and it contains one truly remarkable revelation.

    “In 1979, [Rafael] Eitan and [Meir] Dagan [both brass in the Israel Defense Forces] created the Front for the Liberation of Lebanon from Foreigners, and ran that fictitious group from 1979 to 1983. In 1981 and 1982, Ariel Sharon used that Front to conduct a series of indiscriminate car bombings that killed hundreds of civilians.

    “The objective of this massive ‘terrorist’ car bombing campaign was to ‘sow chaos’ amongst the Palestinian & Lebanese civilian population” and, in 1981-82, to provoke the PLO into resorting to ‘terrorism,’ thus providing Israel with an excuse to invade Lebanon.

    “The FLLF operation is described in great details in Bergman’s book. His account is based solely on first hand accounts from Israeli officials involved in the operation or who were aware of it at the time. It is also described in detail in my article here [in Mondoweiss in May: The remarkable disappearing act of Israel’s car-bombing campaign in Lebanon or: What we (do not) talk about when we talk about ‘terrorism’].

    “As I show in this article, not a SINGLE review of Bergman’s book in the US media has mentioned the FLLF operation. Nor has it been mentioned in a SINGLE of the countless interviews he has given on the topic over the last few months. The US media has thus been fully silent about the fact that Israeli officials directed a major & fully indiscriminate car bombing campaign that killed 100s of civilians in Lebanon. This silence also means that the US media has failed to notice the possible implications of this revelation about the Dean case.

    “Bergman himself does not mention the assassination attempt against Dean. But we know that the FLLF took credit for this attack at the time. That Dean’s own investigation pointed to Israel & to its Lebanese proxies. And we now know that the FLLF was CREATED and RUN by Israel.

    “None of this is absolutely conclusive, of course. Nonetheless, this topic might warrant investigation from US journalists (who might also want to write about the FLLF car bombing campaign, ie about Israeli officials resorting to ‘terrorism.’”

    Brulin subsequently added this important comment:

    Bergman does note on several occasions in his book that he is not allowed to write and talk about a lot of the operations that his sources talked to him about. I wonder if this FLLF operation vs Dean is one of those.

    Let us add some details and context. Dean was born to a Jewish family in Germany in 1926 and escaped the Holocaust to the United States in 1938, later graduating from a Kansas City high school. It goes without saying that being ambassador to five countries, Cambodia, Denmark, Lebanon, Thailand and India, is a stellar career in foreign service.

    I reached out to Dean and did not hear from him, but in his oral history, the ambassador says that the attack was a “horrible experience” that scarred his daughter.

    The road at that stretch was wide and a Mercedes car was parked below a small hill overlooking the road. As we turned, our convoy took 21 rifle bullets and two grenades anti-tank fired against the car I was in. My wife threw herself on top of me and said: “Get your head down” because I was trying to look out and was stunned by the “fireworks”. When you have these light anti-tank weapons (LAWs) explode, there are a lot of sparks and explosions. The two LAWs fired at my car bounced off the rear of the car. I also noticed that on the window of my armored car there were some shots all very well centered where I was sitting, but they had not penetrated because the plastic windows were bullet-proof.

    In his autobiography Danger Zones, Dean says he urged the State Department to investigate, but: “No matter how hard I tried, I could not get a straight answer from the State Department about what the U.S. had discovered in its investigations… I was simply told to resume my duties as ambassador. That was not so easy when I learned what the Lebanese intelligence agency found out [using the numbers on the weapons].”

    Dean says he was clearly understood to be an enemy of Israel because on repeated occasions he had publicly condemned Israel’s attacks on Lebanon’s borders and air space, a stance the State Department usually did not take.

    Scurrilous attacks on me in the Israeli Knesset and the Israeli press just prior to the assassination attempt indicate that the Israeli authorities were unhappy with the activist role I played in Lebanon, defending Lebanese sovereignty and maintaining an active relationship with the PLO–the very policies I was given to pursue by the president of the United States. The venomous talk in the Israeli Knesset by the right-wing parties portrayed me as a tool of the Palestinians. Because I was willing, even eager, to talk with all the factions in Lebanon’s civil war, I was suspected of being anti-Israel.

    Dean said he had a “close working relationship” with the PLO– including calling on Yasser Arafat to help broker the release of 13 of 66 American hostages held by Iranians in Tehran in November 1979, those 13 being the women and African-Americans. “On a number of occasions the PLO helped me to get Americans released… American authorities considered the PLO a valid interlocutor for discussing ways of finding a nonmilitary solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.”

    At that time, the PLO was verboten in official policy circles. Andrew Young was forced to resign as Jimmy Carter’s ambassador to the U.N. in 1979 after the Israelis leaked the fact that he had met with a representative of the PLO. In 1977, Ted Koppel and Marvin Kalb wrote a thriller that turned on a US official having a supersecret meeting with a fictitious Palestinian group, and it leaking and the official being charged with betraying Israel. In 1976, the dissident Jewish peace group Breira came apart after Wolf Blitzer, who was at the time also working for the Israel lobby group AIPAC, reported in the Jerusalem Post that Breira members had met with PLO officials.

    Dean had a reputation for being free-thinking in Washington circles. In 1988, when Dean was ambassador to India, Pakistani President Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq died in Pakistan when his plane was sabotaged. Dean maintained that Israel was behind the assassination because it did not want Pakistan to obtain nuclear weapons, which it was then developing. Dean’s speculation was based in part on the fact that pro-Israel congressmen (Stephen Solarz and Tom Lantos) had visited him in New Delhi and pressed him to support Israel’s ally India over Pakistan and to seek to thwart Pakistan’s path toward nukes.

    “The more I pushed for answers, the more officials from the Reagan administration pushed back,” he wrote. Within a year, Dean, 63, retired amid official questions about his sanity under “strain.” “The department’s first thought was to send me to an asylum.” Instead he was sent to Switzerland for “recuperation,” he writes in his autobiography. “This was the kind of technique that the Stalinist regime used to silence its critics in the Soviet Union.”

    Ronen Bergman’s new book on the Israeli assassination and terrorism campaign contains no reference to the John Gunther Dean attack. I asked him via a twitter message why he had left it out, noting that his revelation about Israeli security officials establishing the Front for the Liberation of Lebanon from Foreigners gives credence to Dean’s claim. He did not respond.

    The Israeli investigative reporter is now working for the New York Times, and lately reported in the Times on the killing of a Syrian rocket scientist in a car bomb attack in northwestern Syria on the night of August 4, evidently by Israel.

    P.S. The US government has had a miserable record of investigating known Israeli attacks on Americans– on the USS Liberty in 1967 and Rachel Corrie in 2003.

    Thanks to Donald Johnson.

    www/mondoweiss.net 2018 Aug 22

    1-Todays ISIS is yesterday’s FLLF who under the personal guidance conducted terrorism across Lebanon and Palestine refugee camps . tomorrow Bergamn will admit ISODS was funned and controlled by Israel

    2 Second take home message is that like in USSR, USA also sent dissidents truth -teller and not so Israeli friendly guys to asylum and forced retirement.

    • Replies: @John Noughty
    , @renfro
  21. Seraphim says:

    The Sri Lankan attacks were done by suicide bombers, which is a hallmark of Muslim jihadists. Destruction of Christian Churches and Crosses is a favorite pass time of the Muslim ‘militants’.
    They are in tune with the arsonists of the Taghba Church by the ‘Jewish extremists’ like Rabbi Shlomo Aviner who reminds that ‘burning churches is a ‘mitzvah’. The number of churches burnt, vandalized, desecrated by Muslims, of Crosses smashed exceed hundreds of times any attacks on mosques or ‘insults’ to the prophet.
    “The Prophet said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus. He will descent (sic) (to the earth)… He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam” (i.e eradication of Christianity). Notre Dame was sheltering the Crown of Thorns of the Christ. That was the real target of the arsonists.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Druid
  22. anon[215] • Disclaimer says:

    While the world might be looking for a electrical fire -started destruction of Dome of Rock , we would not be taking the eye off the ball that is Israelis zealots would start and claim that its as accident
    Later for security reason again created by Jews , the mosque will be declared off limit for the worshippers for years . People will forget but we should not . The modus operandi will include slow under the radar building activities for the 3 rd times on Dome of Rock by the uncouth violent settlers murderers Zionist Kahaneis.

  23. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:

    If I discovered that this fantasist author was trustee of funds invested for me i would urgently seek his replacement by the court by some sane person with a commonsense feel for reality.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Anonymous
    , @Alden
  24. The only stench that fills my nose is the stink of MOSSAD. Gods chosen pushing hard for their third temple and Armageddon.

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
  25. Stick says:

    Or it could have been a lithium battery left behind by a workman in the rafters of Notre Dame. They have a way of self igniting cuz Gaea and Global Warming. Not sure how to assess this article since I’m not a Medieval Historian. The Blood Heart is something I was unaware of.

  26. @anno nimus

    anno nimus, please go elsewhere on the web if you do not like what Mr Unz publishes.

  27. @Niels Larsen

    I’m not sure they would spread themselves that thin. The answer to “cui bono” is usually a bit more tangible.

    • Replies: @alexander
  28. @Polemos

    When I study the use of numerology and symbolism by occult groups I am studying what they believe, not what I believe. That said, it is not unlikely that various kinds of magic “work” given that (a) science has proven through psi experiments that consciousness can affect reality directly in extraordinary ways, and (b) quantum physics offers theoretical support to the mind-creates-reality model.

  29. wayfarer says:

    “Notre Dame Spire Collapse and It’s Symbolism.”

    “Notre Dame Cathedral Fire Conspiracy Theories.”

  30. Sean says:

    The likelihood of specific event is not the same thing as the chances of something like that happening. Churches go on fire or are deliberately set on fire all the time. Two famous ones at the same time is a coincident event that most certainly can happen. Anti Muslim activist Dominique Venner, committed suicide in Notre Dame a few years ago (gravely offending French Catholic traditionalists) and the very next day the Femnin group staged a nude protest there to mock. There was another nude protest there by Femin to celebrate the pope resigning, and a publicised trial at which they were acquited.

    https://www.hindawi.com/journals/schizort/2018/5917475/
    In the prodromal phase of schizophrenia, severe alterations of the visual appearance of the environment have been found, accompanied by a state of intense anxiety. The present study considers the possibility that these alterations really exist in the appearance of objects, but that healthy people do not see them. The image of the world that we see is continuously deformed and fragmented by foreshortenings, partial overlapping, and so on and must be constantly reassembled and interpreted; otherwise, it could change so much that we would hardly recognize it….also induce delusional ideas, in an attempt to restore meaning in a world that has become chaotic and frightening.

  31. Anonymous[941] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    OMG! Year 12 Girls Non Science High School gobblydegook.

  32. anon[371] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s even surprising to me how many times people relive the tragedies of the past over and over all around the world. The same stories of love and betrayal that play themselves out time and time again. The past repeating itself. Odin had one eye, Horus also lost an eye, It keeps repeating and no one ever learns a thing,. But hey look at our standard of living and we have computers and plastic.

    • Replies: @anon
  33. wayfarer says:

    “Notre Dame Incinerated.”

    • Replies: @utu
    , @come-and-take-it
  34. anon[371] • Disclaimer says:

    There is only a single reason I can think of that Muslims would want Jesus’ Mother to be with them, and that is to betray her son who they say is not the son of God. Are Muslims hoping Jesus and his Mother are going to join them to kill their own people? Would Jesus bring them in to wipe out his own in favor of their prophet and God? Why would Jesus do such a thing to his own and why would his mother join them? Maybe it’s time some people stopped being so naive. The church wrapped a religion around truth, does that mean truth doesn’t exist or that some of the religion is not quite right? Be careful of the voices in your head they aren’t always who you think. I watched one show a British tv show where a Muslim sees an image of the Virgin Mary who says he should follow her son, Jesus. In the tv show the church and everyone agreed that the Virgin Mary would never do this and that the image was an evil spirit. I think the way they are going the Christians will lose this fight, I can be clairvoyant too.
    For the billionth time.

  35. Add one more tangled theory to the pile, one with a vanity twist for the Muslims of the Medieval Spain who were known for their pluralistic tolerance, making such an apt analogy with the intolerant-cubed Muslim extremists of the 21st century who shoot up concerts full of Parisian kids, truck-ram 80 Nice tourists to death, behead 80-something-year-old Catholic priests at the alter in front of their parishioners and gun down harmless cartoonists one by one. Then there are the ones across the sea, murdering Christians on Easter in church and the ones who cannot tolerate a Jewish country only 9 miles across in the middle of a huge and solid mass of all-Muslim surrounding countries.

    You can emphasize the way knowledge from Antiquity spurred intellectual activity by Muslims in the West’s Dark Ages, or you can emphasize the way the same knowledge fueled the Western, Christian Renaissance. But that’s the good stuff, the things that inspire pride, the things that are being ransacked, burned down and destroyed for…..some…..reason, likely vanity-related.

    The fact that humans in past eras built these awe-inspiring things does not distract from all of these current mass murders by terrorists. The fact that people tend to appreciate the best works of their own cultures more—very much including Muslims who value their culture far more than Western Christians value theirs—does not mean that Muslims are mistreated in the West. It does not justify the murderous mayhem.

    And Americans wouldn’t have invaded Afghanistan were it not for the mass murder of 3,000 officeworkers on 9/11 by Muslims who were given safe harbor in the USA and access to privileges, like higher education and even hiring / retention privileges due to the way that American law protects even noncitizens in select skin-pigmentation groups and those in minority religions, even as 95 million US citizens are out of the labor force. America protects its Muslim minority, even as the American middle class is declining along with things like increasing life expectancy for white Christians.

    The audacity for Muslim extremists to kill huge numbers of ordinary people in a country that treats foreign nationals better than most citizens: it’s just an amazingly bold act of giving the West the finger. The illegal aliens alone in the USA are consuming $113 billion in womb-productivity-based welfare. The US economy loses $120 billion each year in remittances, sent to the relatives of foreign nationals, taking jobs in the USA while our country racks up $21 trillion in debt.

    Remittances make a “giant sucking sound” from a shadow foreign-aid budget, leaving the USA each year as American citizens struggle to cover rent prices that are through-the-roof.

    Granted, we don’t know who is responsible for the Notre Dame fire. It couldn’t be highly paid, elite, working parents. France, like the USA, likely has a ton of those dual-high-earner parents, taking tons of family-friendly time off while keeping two household-supporting jobs under one roof, which decreases the number of middle-class households. They never get fired, the dual-earner parents with good jobs. Someone who gets paid 20 times more than everyone else is usually at the helm, setting the tone whether that is family-friendly laxness or a hard-driving, work-first work ethic.

    In CA they had a big fire that killed 36 people due to a warehouse that some of the state’s many housing-insecure, mostly non-womb-productive, non-welfare-eligible citizens were living in. They found out that—although the state pays many ordinary, family-friendly employees 3 times as much as I was paid in my governent job to inspect for fires, and even though one person in the top fire-inspection position is paid an absolute ton—the warehouse had not been inspected in 30 years.

    Good job, working families. Good job. You’ve had sex and reproduced while working (not very hard), so by definition, you are a working family doing a stellar, above-critique job, regardless of the results of your lackluster handiwork. It is likely that anyone who did shoddy work on the Notre Dame cathedral, all during its 200-year span of construction, was fired whether or not s/he had reproduced.

  36. Anonymous[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @RouterAl

    Question , why was the smoke white not black. Go find yourself some YouTube videos of big fires……

    Oh not this rubbish again? I for one have had more than my fair share of exhaustive factual investigations with 9/11. Wouldn’t it just be simpler to agree that if there’s reasonable evidence of Jewish involvement then we should just naturally assume it was (((them))) again and act accordingly?

    • Replies: @Alfred
  37. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Sri Lanka massacre has been carried out by the same people who did 9/11, US and Israel to frame Mulsims.
    The minute that they carried this attack on innocent people in Sri Lanka, the Zionist media propaganda contributed to ‘Islamists’, without any investigation or announcement by government in Sri Lanka. In fact, the criminal Trump regime and baby killers Zionist mafia in Tel Aviv designed the terror and implemented, then few days earlier US regime (criminal Trump) notified the government in Sri Lanka that ‘a terror is coming’ without any specifics, a terror that designed by the Jewish mafia Trump and Netanyahu. THAT’S WHY US KNEW ABOUT THIS TERROR. Their own false flag operation, 9/11 STYLE. Who else?

    The US pass this nonspecific ‘information’ to the authorities in Sri Lanka to paint US terrorist state as ‘innocent’ that even is helping ‘the weak’.

    If US knows when and where a terror is going to be carried out, then WHY THEY COULD NOT PREVENT 9/11? Because 9/11, like Spain bombing, Boston marathon bombing, Sri Lanka bombing and many other bombings, were THEIR OWN DESING AND WORK, and are considered FALSE FLAG OPERATION to frame Muslims.

    In fact US and Israel designed and implement this mass murder of more than 300 people, like 9/11, to FRAME MUSLIMS in public opinion to bring dummies, millions of them in the US, on board for an operation against Iran, like 9/11 false flag operation to invade Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Somali, Mali, Syria, Palestine and more. So Israel can expand and steal more lands and the US erect MORE MILITARY BASES AROUND THE WORLD ESPECIALLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST to steal resources and topple governments, and in the process to kill millions of people, many in marriage ceremony.

    Trump cannot fool anyone except himself. He is a fool and a criminal Zionist mafia traitor.

    Fortunately, the authorities in Sri Lanka are NOT COOPERATING with the criminals in Washington and Tel Aviv to announce it as ‘Islamic’, because many people in Sri Lanka and abroad are asking themselves, Why Muslims should carry out such a terror in Sri Lanka? For what purpose?
    This terror has US/Israel’s SIGNATURE on it, and only US/Israel, they involve their puppet India as well, knew about the terror beforehand. You are dummies NOT us, idiots.
    These criminals and mass murderers should be punished. If ICC cannot do anything, where they have said that ICC is controlled by US, then these mass murderers must be executed to bring peace on earth.

    People in Sri Lanka SUPPORT PALESTINIANS AND ARE AGAINST THE ZIONIST BABY KILLERS.

  38. Che Guava says:
    @utu

    Utu, have you read the Illuminatus! trilogy?

    Far less serious than Eco, and much earlier, but not dissimilar on the points you are raising.

    I found this article ludicrous.

    The key is the repeated claims that al-Aqsa and Notre Dame de Paris are, respectively, the pre-eminent sites of Mohameddism and Christianity.

    Plainly false, and the repetition of the claim within the article sure makes it difficult to take the rest of the babble seriously, even if there likely are some (or a few) threads of possible truth. I know from social connections when overseas, at least part of it is true, particularly of the upper bureaucratic classes, but Kevin serves his argument very poorly by leading with, then repeating, two plainly false assertions.

    For bombastic and hyperventilating conspiracy theories, I prefer Alex Jones, at least Jones did a great job of (briefly) playing himself in the wonderful film of A Scanner Darkly.

  39. Sri Lanka bombings: 3 christian churches attacked; 1 protestant, 2 catholic. There are 6 synagogues in Sri Lanka too, including one in downtown Colombo (Chabad of Colombo), but none were attacked.
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/21/world/asia/sri-lanka-bombing-maps.html
    https://www.google.com/maps/search/synagogues+in+sri+lanka/@7.5925361,78.3574541,7.19z

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Alden
  40. anon[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Imagine the Sun forever chasing the Moon around the earth, very rarely do they meet but when they do darkness falls.

  41. Republic says:
    @threestars

    It’s nice to see a writer introducing his article with so blatant historical inaccuracy

    Would you care to enlighten us as to the “blatant historical inaccuracy” ?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  42. TKK says:

    “beloved by both Christians and Muslims,” (Speaking of Notre Dame Cathedral).

    That’s hilarious.

    It’s disturbing that an article this ridiculous is published, anywhere- ever. Do you also believe an idiotic, rogue demented Rabbi was behind the Easter Butchering of Christians in Sri Lanka?

    It is a blessing that this author and anyone who agrees with him have no access to real power. As the Caliphate slashes their throats and rapes their daughters, they will still be screaming out:

    It was not 6 million!!!

  43. alexander says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Does anyone have information as to the results of the fire investigation which was supposed to take place once the fire was extinguished ?

    I know there are excellent investigators in the field who should be able to determine the cause in short order.

    Any word on this from anybody ?

    Has there been a press release from either the Mayor or the Fire Marshall ?

  44. Mulegino1 says:

    With respect to conspiracies, there are two equally false and destructive notions:

    A. Every major world event is the result of a conspiracy engineered by a cabal of evil elitists.

    B. There are no conspiracies engineered by evil elitists; the only real conspiracies are those which are ratified by an official narrative.

    A is destructive and analogous to Gresham’s Law in the matter of money: absurd conspiracy theories drive out, or swamp, good and valid information with respect to conspiracies which are, indeed, engineered by evil elitists. The existence of Bigfoot or Elvis still being alive are not important matters (other than to Bigfoot and Elvis, presumably). Such outlandish obsessions simply enable the powers that be to conflate such ridiculous speculation with the perfectly sound “conspiracy facts” that the official 9/11 narrative is absolutely false and utterly impossible in the real world, or that the Kuwaiti incubator baby story was a deliberate lie and propaganda stunt, etc.

    B is the CIA ‘s Mockingbird style control of the narrative and depends largely upon the somnolence and ignorance of the American people. Conspiracies- by evil elites- have not only existed in human societies since time immemorial, they are a fundamental operating principle of the transnational corporate oligarchs. Conspiracies among elites have given the world two major world conflagrations and endless regional wars.

    • Agree: Agent76
  45. Republic says:

    Our reading of these events is supported by the investigative work of Paris-based independent journalist Hicham Hamza, who reports that prior to the Notre Dame fire, security duties at the cathedral had just been handed to Philippe Laflandre, former head of the French counter-espionage outfit DST. According to Hamza, Lafland has a history of corruption and “pédo-satanic” freemasonic and Mossad connections:

    That is very suspicious, like the Israeli company that was in charge of security at Boston’s Logan airport prior to the 9/11 attacks

  46. Che Guava says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    That is pathetic of you Kevin. Why state something if you have no idea?

    Also, the surname is the same as that of the ex-(?)MI6 goon who produced the lurid fake ‘dossier’ on Trump.

  47. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:

    The Medusa Touch! A wonderful bad film. Richard Burton is at his scenery-chewing best, as “the man who can create catastrophe”! I’ve memed it several times in relation to another Richard… Spencer (Hailgate, Charlotteville, etc.)

  48. So, western Europe circa 12-13 th centuries was a pinnacle of western civilization? Feces on the streets, no bathing in life time, black death that decimated population a bit later. Looks pretty backward to me. But Gothic architecture was really impressive. It is a tragedy but I have serious doubt all these paranoid theories hold any water. There is enough things that are real and have evidence to go around.

  49. liljoe says:

    White smoke. Artificial. This was arson. The official story that it’s a result of a computer glitch is laughable on it’s face.

  50. Great article, Kevin! Thanks.

    Not long after I heard about Notre Dame, I also found out about the Al-Aqsa fire from the Facebook feed of ‘SyrianGirl’ Mimi al-Laham. Ever since I have wondered if there was a connection.

    Just a minor point:

    Islam and Christianity agree that Jesus is the messiah, revering him and his mother the virgin Mary; while Judaism despises Jesus as a bastard and his mother as a whore. Obviously the Jewish “Messiah,” then, will be the Antichrist.

    Moslems regard Jesus as the 13th prophet, not as the Messiah. The Moslem messiah, the Mahdi, will not come until the end of time. You are right about the Talmudic Jews, though. It was passages like that, incidentally, which got the Talmud banned–and burned–throughout Europe.

    • Replies: @Talha
  51. Agent76 says:

    Apr 9, 2019 Gangster Empire

    New Eastern Outlook contributors take a look at the alarming hypocrisy, aggression, and criminality that underpins America’s current unipolar international order and its impact on sovereign nations around the globe.

  52. Who set fire to Rome? It wasn’t Christians because they did not yet exist. It wasn’t Nero, because he wasn’t that crazy. Old habits never die, do they.

  53. @Blubb

    Why is it you are oblivious to the fact there are victims of Jewishness?

    • Replies: @Blubb
  54. @TKK

    Have the Sri Lankans heard of the butchering of Christians in Sri Lanka or was that news only released in selected markets?

  55. wayfarer says:
    @utu

    Those are some spooky images.

    Apparently the fire’s exact cause and point-of-origin have still not been determined.

    As the 2700-year-old embers of Abrahamic hatred-and-genocide continue to be stoked, by arrogant ignorant fundamentalists, IMO.

  56. @TKK

    It is a blessing that this author and anyone who agrees with him have no access to real power.

    No, we don’t have access to any real power. Unfortunately, you’re going to have to deal with those who do. Besta luck …

  57. utu says:
    @anonymous

    Suicide bombing seem to be invented in Sri Lanka.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bombings_in_Sri_Lanka
    Suicide Bombing was a popular tactic of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. According to Jane’s Information Group, between 1980 and 2000, the LTTE carried out 168 suicide attacks causing heavy damage on civilian, economic and military targets.

    Did they invent it themselves? One could explore however to what extent Mossad and Israel were involved in Sri Lanka civil war.

    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2014/09/29/srilanka-mossad-ltte-and-the-rajiv-gandhi-assassination/

    In 1991 Victor Ostrovsky, author of By Way of Deception: The Making of a Mossad officer , told Indian Abroad news service that Mossad brought many Tamils to Israel for training in 1984 and 1985 . “These groups kept coming and going. When I was in Mossad, it was part of our routine job to take them to training camps and make sure they got training worth what they paid for, no more and no less. The Singhalese paid in cash.”

    We know from sources other than Ostrovsky that shortly after the war broke out in Sri Lanka, Mossad approached a group of officers from India’s RAW Research and Analysis Wing . In July 1984 this inner RAW circle arranged with Mossad to send Tamils to Israel for commando training. Mossad paid the RAW team for this by setting up accounts for them in the BCCI bank. The Tamil commandoes that went to Israel became known as the TELO . They are separate from the main Tamil rebels, known as the LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam).

    Meanwhile the Israelis simultaneously trained the Singhalese in Israel , but did not tell the main Tamil army, or the main Indian government, or anyone else.Each group had 60 members. Training started with a two-week basic commando course at an Israeli base known as Kfar Sirkin near Tel Aviv. This is a fairly large base, but on one occasion the two groups passed within a few yards of each other while they were out jogging.

    After the two-week basic course, the Israelis took the Tamils to Atlit, a top-secret naval commando base at Haifa. Meanwhile Singhalese were brought in for basic training back at the Kfar Sirkin base. After the Tamils completed advanced training in Haifa, they were moved out, and the Singhalese were brought in to learn how to deal with all the techniques the Israelis had just taught the Tamils.

    Meanwhile back in Sri Lanka itself, the Israelis did everything possible to escalate the massacres on all sides into a full-scale war.In 1985, Rafi Eytan, head of the Israeli intelligence agency LEKEM, was caught running spy Jonathan Pollard against the USA. Afterward, Rafi Eytan was sent to Sri Lanka to take over Mossad operations there. His cover was that he was an employee of Israeli Chemical Industries, which has operations in Sri Lanka.

    By 1987, their criminal activities became so extreme that India’s Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi convinced Sri Lankan President Junius Jayawardene to sign the Indo-Sri Lankan peace accord, which gave autonomy to the Tamil areas in the north and east of the island. An amnesty was declared, and 3,000 Indian troops were sent as peacekeepers.

    Then Indian troops started to confiscate Mossad arms. In 1987, the Hindustan Times reported that in the Sri Lankan city of Jaffna, the troops seized large quantities of arms with Israeli markings, meant for the Tamils.

    Rajiv Gandhis response was simple ………He sent 97,000 additional troops.By the following year (1990) Mossad’s false flags massacres had reduced Sri Lanka to a quagmire for India. Under political pressure at home, Rajiv Gandhi withdrew the army, but used the Indian Navy to completely shut down the Israeli Arms trade in Sri Lanka. In November 1991, the Indian Navy seized an Israeli ship carrying large amounts of arms and ammunition from Singapore to the Tamils.

    That was the ‘breaking point’. The Israelis could tolerate no more interference from Gandhi. Gandhi had also refused to have official diplomatic ties with Israel On 21 May 1991, Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  58. anonymous[472] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    He will break the cross, … i.e eradication of Christianity

    Eradication of pagan symbolism and other such manifestations of polytheist godlessness is to be celebrated by mankind, if it hopes to bask in the Almighty One’s mercy.

    Allah will perish all religions except Islam

    Allah & Islam may sound alien to your pagan godless cultures, so clearly you all will take umbrage to that, but the following with slightly modified wording will indeed prevail.

    The Almighty One will perish all (pagan) religions except True Monotheism.

    Think about it deeply and admit whether you have a problem with “The Almighty One” & “True Monotheism”? After all, you pagan mangods-worshippers also delude yourselves about that, right?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  59. You are crediting Mohammedans with a lot more brains than they possess.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @ploni almoni
  60. @anon

    Thanks, interesting information.

    • Replies: @anon
  61. anonymous[472] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Lol! Have you considered who the “trustees” of your spirituality are?

    You worry about your “funds,” but how about your accursed soul?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  62. anonymous[472] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnonFromTN

    “Mohammedans” believe that God is One, and only One, while your accursed godless kind have taken men, women and spirits for “gods.”

    “Mohammedans” have enough brains to succeed in the eternal Hereafter… where it actually counts.

    Stew on that pagan godless scum.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @Nona
  63. anonymous[472] • Disclaimer says:
    @Endgame Napoleon

    who shoot up concerts full of Parisian kids, truck-ram 80 Nice tourists to death, behead 80-something-year-old Catholic priests at the alter in front of their parishioners

    Blah! Blah! Yeah, we all know how pure hearted whiteyscum are. You are preaching to the choir godless degenerate. Lol!

    gun down harmless cartoonists one by one

    Harmless?! Rofl!

    Don’t you worry, you will get to share “quality” time with those “harmless” cartoonists, in the worst pits of Hell… imagine that, for all eternity… now say, Yippee!!

  64. wayfarer says:

    “Notre Dame Burns.”

  65. @anonymous

    Congratulations! You just confirmed what I said. Only a hopeless fool can be caught by a silly trap like that. 72 reused and recycled “virgins” for you!

  66. Talha says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Some corrections, with all due respect…

    Moslems regard Jesus as the 13th prophet

    He is a prophet, there is absolutely no specification as to which number he was since there were many – however, he was the second to last one.

    not as the Messiah

    He is the Messiah – the Qur’an labels him “maseeH” multiple times. There is no difference of opinion about this.

    the Mahdi

    The Mahdi (ra) is a reviver – the ultimate reviver, but he is not the Messiah. The Son of Mary (pbuh) will return to assist the Mahdi (ra).

    Just wanted to clarify.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  67. wayfarer says:

    “The Truth About the Sri Lanka Attacks.”

  68. @Endgame Napoleon

    Add one more tangled theory to the pile, one with a vanity twist for the Muslims of the Medieval Spain who were known for their pluralistic tolerance

    Fake history.

    The Myth of the Andalusian paradise

    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=the+myth+of+the+andalusian+paradise&hvadid=243380719103&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9012007&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=3723995847801677586&hvtargid=kwd-304200061852&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_2212pmd4di_e

  69. Alfred says:
    @Anonymous

    I agree entirely. We should stop wasting time trying to find holes in what is an obvious false-flag.

    Instead, we should study the reaction of the media and the other synchonised events. It should be for the Zionists and their lackeys to explain why this time it was not them that did it.

  70. onebornfree says: • Website

    “Shocking Notre Dame OVERLAY – Spire Fall Perfectly Predicted 7 Years Ago”:

    Summary: The “live” footage was faked, cooked up before hand. [months, years?] And remember :

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [via central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”,”improved”, nor “limited” in scope, simply because of their innate criminal nature.”

    Regards, onebornfree

  71. Nona says:
    @wayfarer

    “Biblical prophecy”.

    You mean the Torah, of the blood-thirsty, vengeful, psycho Jehovah?

    Still and all, as Jonah found out, “prophecies” are NOT written in stone, they’re given so that the People (Consciousness) can change, prophecies are warnings that can be acted upon and the outcome changed.

    I suspect, prophecies are not other than Remote Viewing.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
  72. The New Jarred Kushner Peace Plan calls for a exclusive JEWISH Israel (greater) with no Muslim/Christian populations, NO churches,and NO mosques . This can only be accomplish with a global WAR between Muslims vrs Christian (WW III,Albert Pike). The coming Pax Judaica demands a JEWISH Israel and the imposition of Wolrd Noahide LAWS for and against NON jews exempting jews. The new jewish world conquest will eliminate all world religuions in favor of ONE world religion namely Judaism..The cleric that claim the Sri Lanka attacks is a Mossad asset. The ZIO jews will set the world on fire pursuing the Third Temple nonsense and the Pax JUdaica.

  73. Nona says:
    @anonymous

    “Mohammedans” have enough brains to succeed in the eternal Hereafter… where it actually counts.”

    How do you know that? Did you die and come back?

  74. Iris says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    ” highly credible reports that there was no electricity in the area where the fire started”

    Kudos for the courageous article.

    It is better to use rational and careful arguments to make a point, especially when the entire MSM machine is against you.
    Panamza (Hicham Hamza) is commendable, but he makes gross mistakes which completely de-credibilise some of his articles.

    It is certain that there was electrical power in the renovation area where the fire started. Electrical supply was provided to operate construction lifts and lighting on the scaffolding fitted around the spire. However, the construction company is adamant that safety procedures were followed: electricity was switched off and locked before workers left the site.

    https://www.boursorama.com/bourse/actualites/correction-officielle-les-echafaudeurs-de-notre-dame-livrent-leur-version-des-faits-233f8b14e5fc52aab73aa760f2297176

    There are much better scientific arguments, such as this article by a Physics professor, which explain that an electrical short-circuit or a cigarette cannot ignite timber:

    https://aitia.fr/erd/notre-dame-quelques-rappels-de-chimie-physique-et-geometrie/comment-page-1/#comment-1223

    From a engineer’s viewpoint, it is extremely unlikely that the fire at Notre-Dame could have been accidental.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
  75. Anon[217] • Disclaimer says:

    Muslims and Christians killing one another, doing the Jews’ work.

    Both need to wake up and realize who their real enemies are.

  76. Seraphim says:
    @anonymous

    I admit having indeed a problem with “true monotheism”, if by that you understand Islam and with the “Almighty one” if by that you understand the travesty of the ‘bloodthirsty’ Iahve you call ‘Allah’.
    The ‘true Almighty One’ is the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, the Holy Trinity, one in essence and undivided, revealed in the Holy Scriptures of the Christians by the Word of God and by the very Incarnation, Passion on the Cross and Resurrection of the Word, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, against whom “the kings of the earth were aroused, and the rulers were assembled together, against the Lord and against His Anointed” led by the lying prophet.
    And of course I have a problem with your apology of Muslim terrorism.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Polemos
  77. Anonymous[941] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Here’s your chance to learn something about that immaterial soul thing which rationality on top of about 400 years of science has left no more place for than there is for a Abrahamic deity who cares about us. Hey! The Dan Brown in me says the “God of the gaps” has found a place to store souls when our brains are disaggregated atoms. It’s what the Dark Matter is for! It figures, doesn’t it? Dark matter is many times the mass of the ordinary matter of which we and our everyday world, and our stars and planets, consist. So there you are religious nutters, and gentle believers. Enjoy eternity as some kind of matter tour deity hasn’t even bothered to explain to you, his loved ones 🙂

  78. @ababush

    “All architects and Building engineers who knew the place said (some publicly) that such a fire could be triggered by a simple electrical incident was impossible (2000 degC are needed according to a building engineer) due to the size and density of the oak beams.”

    This is correct. As an experiment, just go out into your side yard and try to light fire to an 8″ x 12″ hardwood oak beam that just happens to be lying about. Heck, even use a bit of kindling.

    Next; just how does a short cause a fire? Anyone? Gimmee a break. A short throws a breaker. That “short causes a fire” routine is something that dates back to the time when poor homeowners used pennies to replace burnt out fuses. With modern circuit breakers? Ain’t goin to happen.

    Again. Go ahead, any of you. Experiment in your garage. Short across the two wires of an extension cable. See what I mean? A brief, violent spark, a bit of a singed area and then nothing. Do it right on a big chunk of wood. What do you get? A little blackened area but no flame.

    There is no way that a short can ignite big timbers. You need to build a really good small fire to get enough sustained heat that can get timber burning.

    How do I know? Because I’ve done all of the above. I owned a big barn, massive timbers, some of which I burned on purpose. Any big chunk of wood–even your winter fire wood–won’t ignite from the brief spark created by an electrical short.

    I’m calling bullshit.

    • Agree: Mike P, Alden
  79. anon[215] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Noughty

    Creating ,helping reducing and protecting ISIS by Israel will come as no surprise . They are masters in creating terror outfit . They orchestrated terrorism in Lebanon and in Palestine refugee camps in 1978 not to take a revenge but just to create a blow back .

    This is in their DNA.

  80. @Professional Stranger

    Funny how the attackers chose targets and date of immediate significance to billions of Christians worldwide. And that’s before you have even bothered to ask about the likely security measures of synagogues, not lesst in Sri Lanka! Being Jew obsessed does that to the otherwise potentially thinking brain! Me and mine? We add to Ashkenazi genes (and Asian ones too) to the old whigger bloodlines and see our young family members at Oxbridge and Ivies….

  81. wayfarer says:
    @Nona

    I suspect, prophecies are none other than Remote Viewing.

    Yes, but no doubt interactions with inter-dimensional space/time travelers as well.

    The apparent players can only be a fraction of humanity’s geopolitical and religious can-of-worms – there has to have been influence throughout history from hidden players – across our Universe of Infinite Intelligence.

    • Replies: @Polemos
  82. @Iris

    From a engineer’s viewpoint, it is extremely unlikely that the fire at Notre-Dame could have been accidental.

    Has the engineer ever been on a roof? Can he say if there was tar or other waterproofing on the roof? Can he say if adhesives were being used? Solvent soaked rags? Had the oak beams been waterproofed?

  83. @wayfarer

    Sword of the Spirit… If you’re going to comment. Get it right. Others say Notre Dame was just an opportunity to get Macron some breathing room and to get France on board with a war against Iran. The flames of the apocalypse are licking at the boots of the established order lit by their own zippo.

  84. Seraphim says:
    @Talha

    The so-called Mahdi is the real Antichrist and Isa ben Maryam the false prophet and false ‘maseeh’.

    • Replies: @RSDB
    , @Talha
  85. Anonymous[941] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Here’s your chance to learn something about that immaterial soul thing which rationality on top of about 400 years of science has left no more place for than there is for a Abrahamic deity who cares about us. Hey! The Dan Brown in me says the “God of the gaps” has found a place to store souls when our brains are disaggregated atoms. It’s what the Dark Matter is for! It figures, doesn’t it? Dark matter is many times the mass of the ordinary matter of which we and our everyday world, and our stars and planets, consist. So there you are religious nutters, and gentle believers. Enjoy eternity as some kind of matter tour deity hasn’t even bothered to explain to you, his loved ones 🙂

  86. @Polemos

    “there’s a collective unconsciousness”

    On the morning of September 11, 2001, I experienced the following dream. I dreamt that two big men, twins, came toppling down, felled like trees. A rather swarthy looking fellow appeared in front of me. He said, “Now maybe they will take us seriously” or words that I interpreted to mean such. I went back to sleep.

    I knew that it was shortly after 6 a.m. Pacific time because my wife, who always rose for work at 6 was not still in bed. We were sleeping in the hayloft of the barn on our property. There was no radio or television in the barn. She showered and dressed for work in the house, which was 100′ away. Neither she nor I ever turn on the “news” in the morning so there was no chance of my having heard of what had happened.

    Later, I dressed, made coffee and sat outside in the sun, reading. The phone rang. It was my friend from L.A. He asked, “Cranes? Have you heard the news?”

    “What news?”

    “The World Trade Center. Someone ran a plane into the side of the world trade center in NYC.”

    “Who? “Bin Laden?”

    “I don’t know who. You should turn on the news. It’s mayhem there.”

    What I just reported is true. It is not falsified in any way. It is not the product of afterthought or invention.

    My theory is that I picked up on a wave of human emotion, a massive wave of stunned grief and fear. In some sense, we are equipped with psychic receivers which are normally overwhelmed with the noise of everyday life. But the coherence of the mental wave forms that resulted from the attack was so dominating that it impressed itself on my mind when it was in that receptive state just before awakening.

    A couple of weeks ago, Old Palo Altan commented that he preferred the synthetic approach of Continental philosophy to the Analytic tradition of Anglo/American philosophy. To answer, “How does this relate to my dream?” we have to ask “What must the whole be like for all the parts to be what they are?”

    Anglo/American reasoning has hewed to an atomistic, analytic line for centuries. Billiard ball reasoning. If A strikes B and B strikes C and so on. But German philosophy looked at the whole, the Gestalt and reasoned from that to the particular.

    So, for example, if we examine the behavior of iron filings in a magnetic field, we can indeed, regard each filing as a magnetic dipole and analyze the force each produces on its neighbor and then how that affects its neighbor neighbor and so on.

    Or we can recognize that each of them is subject to the larger ordering effect of the magnet that is concealed under the sheet of paper on which they lie, the Field.

    We know from quantum mechanics that when electrons change orbitals, that they assume coherent wave forms and that they do so virtually spontaneously and instantaneously. They snap into their new configuration. They don’t slowly transition or go through phases. So, in some sense, the pattern is there before the particles assume their place in the coherent whole.

    When we have premonitions or glimpses into the future, we are operating on the level of large, coherent-pattern discernment. This is not mysticism. It’s a innate ability to grasp the whole.

    A “Gestalt Closure Test” measures a subjects ability to “see” the whole in a fractured image he is presented with. Parts of each image have been subtracted and it is up to the subject to add the missing elements and see the whole. As the test progresses, the images become more difficult. We all differ in our ability to see the “whole in the parts” just as we differ in conceptual intelligence or long-jumping ability.

    Visionaries or mystics can foresee and foretell because, knowing the whole, they can predict what the particular must be if it is to fit in and take its place in the coherent pattern.

    This type of reasoning is utterly alien to what e.g. Bertrand Russell set out to do with his Logical Atomism in which he tried to construct language out of basic bricks of meaning.

    “Yes”, says the gestalt psychologist, “bricks can only be combined in such and such a way, but without a blueprint, you’re not likely to create a humanly useful domicile.”

    The collective unconscious stamped its imprint on my individual mind.

  87. kapoore says:

    I agree, great article: For many reasons that are personal as well as political I have adopted the stance that “paranoia is a higher state of consciousness.” If things look fishy, they are fishy, and that means fishing around for clues and “yes” speculating. Some crimes never get solved for the obvious reason that no one ever had any intention of solving them. You read the symbolism after a while and get the message.

  88. Iris says:

    To Chris Mallory

    Has the engineer ever been on a roof? Can he say if there was tar or other waterproofing on the roof? Can he say if adhesives were being used? Solvent soaked rags? Had the oak beams been waterproofed?

    The roof supporting structure was made of hardened, solidified 800-year old oak timber.
    The timber structure was covered with 1326 lead roof tiles for a total weight of 210 tons.
    Jointing was made with tin.
    No solvent or other flammables can be stored in historic buildings open to the public; basic health and safety regulations.

    On a side note, the scaffolding on the roof had been burning at minimum 800degreeC for over 4 hours but did not collapse, while the WTC Twin Towers were “consumed by fire” in 30 minutes.

    It looks like scaffolding built by French engineers is more solid than American sky-scrappers, so they must be good at their job.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  89. @AnonFromTN

    Who has brains these days? The people around you playing games on their telephones?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  90. @ThreeCranes

    Maybe. There is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in your philosophy, Horatio. By the way, it wasn’t Bin Laden. He was an American asset, and he died in December 2001. In around July 2001, le Monde reported, he was treated for a week in a US naval hospital in the Middle East, but he was already dying.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  91. Is there anyone who actually believes that the fire, regardless of who started it and why, was accidental?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  92. Seraphim says:
    @Republic

    The inaccuracies are that the Gothic style originates in Ile-de-France with Suger, the Abbot of the Abbey of Saint Denis (the ‘necropolis’ of the Kings of France), who remodeled the Romanesque Abbey Church in the years 1140-44. The first cathedral to be built in the new style was the Cathedral of Sens, followed by Notre-Dame de Paris. It coincides with the foundation of the University of Paris. The spreaders of the Gothic style were the monks of the Cistercian Order, who created the monastic-military orders.
    The architecture of Cluny is still purely Romanesque, closer to the Byzantine models. The imposing Church of the Abbey of Cluny is closer to the Aachen Cathedral of Charlemagne.
    “Gothic” is a misnomer. The name was given by the Renaissance artists and scholars, who believed that the sack of Rome by the Goths in 410 triggered the demise of the Classical world and therefore the whole art of Europe north of the Alps .
    In reality the Goths (in Italy, Spain, South of France) adopted wholesale the ‘Roman’ style of architecture.
    But it is no less true that the ‘Gothic’ style (that should be more appropriately called French), represented a departure from the classical models (not complete, of course) which introduced both ‘barbarian/pagan’ elements and the kind of non-Christian disincarnated ‘pure spirituality’ which led to the false oppositions between ‘religion’ and ‘science’, ‘organized religion’ and ‘pure Christianity’ which mar the Western mentality.

  93. @ploni almoni

    I always tell my students that we are not virtual objects, so if their life is in their smartphone, something is terribly wrong with it. I don’t accept anyone playing with smartphone or with ears plugged with whatever they stick into them to listen to some crappy music. I tell them that we have only one brain, so when it is engaged otherwise, it is not engaged in research. If they don’t want to use their brains, they should do something different, like practicing medicine or selling used cars.

    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
  94. RSDB says:
    @Seraphim

    The Antichrist is a bit above my pay grade but surely “Isa ben Maryam” is the Messiah and Son of God even if Muslims have a faulty understanding of Him?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  95. renfro says:
    @anon

    Here is a link for you to the oral history of Dean and his time as Abm to Lebanon,
    He talks about the attack on him and also another Mossad assassination in Lebanon.

    https://www.jimmycarterlibrary.gov/assets/documents/oral_histories/project/Lebanon.pdf

  96. @ploni almoni

    I didn’t say it was Bin Laden. I asked if it were he. Probably because of the constant association of his name with terrorism and the earlier attempt on the Trade Center.

    The fact that I would include what–as you point out and as we all now know–was ultimately an incorrect surmise demonstrates the faithfulness of my account.

  97. Seraphim says:
    @RSDB

    No, definitely Isa ben Maryam is NOT the Jesus Christ of the Christians. Muslims have a faulty understanding of Him because all their understanding of the Scriptures is faulty.

  98. @Johnny Smoggins

    French government wants you to believe that. Whenever a government calls something black, you can be 100% sure that it is white.

  99. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    The Holy Trinity, one in essence and undivided? You’re saying you can’t divide 3 by 3? Back to third grade math for you. LOL

    “Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.”

    Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Adrian Van der Kemp, July 30, 1816

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Seraphim
  100. Nick T says:
    @threestars

    Gothic architecture was (literally) developed from the foundations of Romanesque architecture, which was just classical monumental architecture and its body of knowledge continued into medieval times. The fact that the Gothic style has unique motifs (gothic arch, etc) doesnt change this.

  101. This is the first I heard of a “fire at Al Aqsa”. Turns out it was in a guard room in an adjoining structure and was put out quickly. Frankly it sounds like a stunt designed to remind Muslims or the world about Palestine.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  102. Alden says:
    @Fuerchtegott

    Maybe the Muslims just don’t care about American wars, even 3rd generation Turks.

  103. Alden says:
    @Anon

    Are you under conservatorship because of Down’s syndrome or some other mental disability? Sounds like it.

    • Replies: @Anon
  104. Alden says:
    @Endgame Napoleon

    So you don’t approve of work? Or are you trying to say the fire was accidental set by a worker exhausted by being a parent or in a hurry to get home and help with homework?

    Let’s all have 10 kids and go on welfare!!!!!!!!!

  105. Ali Baba says:

    ISLAM AGAINST TERRORISM •1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.”

    (i.e. murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land

    [MORE]

    2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people. The Qur’an says, “

    “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion

    or after and was never abrogated by any other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.

    3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears and knows all

    8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”

    4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly constituted leader of the

    Muslim community that engages in the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national jurisconsult.

    5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden. According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies:

    I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)

    6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces for money or power.

    The principle of forbidding the spreading of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida 5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman Jackson writes, “

    “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d. 464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe to travel,

    striving to spread corruption in the land by taking money, killing people or violating what God has made it unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”

    7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The Prophet Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.

    8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those who harm you and is said to have commanded, “Do not be people without minds of your own,

    saying that if others treat you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do good if people do good and not to do wrong (even

    9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice toward people even where they have reason to be angry with them:And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.10. The Qur’an assures Christians and Jews of paradise if they believe and do good work

    and commends Christians as the best friends of Muslims. I wrote elsewhere, “Dangerous falsehoods are being promulgated to the American public. The Quran does not preach violence against Christians.

    Quran 5:69 says (Arberry): “Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness

    their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.”In other words, the Quran promises –

    Christians and Jews along with Muslims that if they have faith and works, they need have no fear in the afterlife. It is not saying that non-Muslims go to hell– quite the opposite.

    When speaking of the 7th-century situation in the Muslim city-state of Medina, which was at war with pagan Mecca, the Quran notes that the polytheists and some Arabian Jewish tribes

    opposed to Islam, but then goes on to say:5:82. ” . . . and you will find the nearest in love to the believers [Muslims] those who say: ‘We are Christians.’

    That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud.”So the Quran not only does not urge Muslims to commit violence against Christians, it calls them “nearest in love”

    it calls them “nearest in love” to the Muslims! The reason given is their piety, their ability to produce holy persons dedicated to God, and their lack of overweening pride.
    https://www.clearquran.com

    • Agree: Druid
    • Replies: @Seraphim
  106. Zionism is cut from the same cloth as Nazism and Bolshevism, and cut by the same hand – the Anglo-American banking establishment. Insider Anthony C. Sutton has documented this quite well, as has Bill Clinton mentor Carroll Quigley. Zionism is really a bizarre parody of Nazism, right down to the tribal “master race” fantasy, the concentration camps, and the internal, hated, ethnic “other.” Israel was created with an alliance between Nazis and self-hating, atheist, Zionist Jews – Nazi troop ships brought whole Jewish factories and villages to Palestine before the war. They betrayed the observant Jews of Europe. But yes, Mossad works with the CIA to do these false flags. They also fund and run ISIS with the Paedo-gon. Wahabists in Saudia Arabia are in league with them, because they wish to wipe out all other sects of Islam. Israel is left alone, you’ll notice. ISIS never even mentions them. Likewise, they never attack oil rich nations allied with the USA. Only those oil-rich nations that have their own financial system, that stand apart from – the banking establishment. The first thing they did in Libya was to airlift out the gold reserves, and install a Rothschild central bank.

    The Zionist West created Israeli Secret Intelligence Service ISIS to demonize Islam and Muslims.
    The Zionist West has a history of making mockery of the Creator of Heaven’s and earth.
    These are the same godless people whose ancestor’s have killed messenger’s of God that were sent to remind humanity to live by the Shari’ah TEN Commandments.
    But instead they have deviated by engaging in false flag hoaxes such as 9-11, Boston Marathon, London 7-7-7, Paris false flags, New Zealand false flag, and now Sri Lanka false flag terror.
    The have removed the institution of family and decency by legalizing homosexuality, pornography, gambling, Adultery, fraudulent money and outright criminal wars based on Weapons of Mass Deception.
    And now they got people such as yourselves invoking insults to your Creator without even reflecting what repercussion and wrath it will invite from your maker.
    But ISIS-Israeli Secret Intelligence Service disguised as Islamic state needs to hear this loud and clear: No country’s actions are worse than yours. What you choose to carry out is infinitely more reprehensible – because whenever you do something horrific you have the audacity to invoke God’s name first.

    • Replies: @Druid
  107. Alden says:
    @Professional Stranger

    Chanda, the spy service of Israel.

    • Replies: @Alden
  108. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    So you’re a militant anti Christian and like all liberals you think you’re sooooo intelligent. And you’re enlightening us drooling bible thumpers with your great wisdom

    BFD

    Heard it all before.

  109. Alden says:
    @Alden

    I meant Chabad and I’m finally going to see if I can disable spell check. I spend as much time correcting spell check as I do typing sometimes.

  110. Anon[941] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    As it happens I am, under one of my hats, a professional trustee with appropriate formal and experiential qualifications and I have recently been involved in a family’s removal of a trustee. It was natural for me to make my assessment of the author’s grasp of reality against a standard I had in mind. But you wanted to be rude? Is that because you are a fan of Kevin Barrett? Or why else?

  111. sarz says:

    Kevin, since the whole Sri Lanka operation makes zero sense from a Sri Lankan perspective — why in the world would local Muslims attack local Christians? — one can only read it in conjunction with Christchurch, Notre Dame and Al Aqsa as a last desperate instigation of Christian-Muslim civilizational war by the Judaic globalist order. All the usual suspects line up, with Modi immediately buying in. (Trump later spoke to him in code, saying we are supporting you on Azhar, so support us with the Iran oil embargo.)

    Here’s the lead. The local fanatic was an online and presumably lone figure. We owe the helpful discovery to a key American security fugure, one Anne Speckhard. Here’s the AP story:

    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/militants-blamed-in-sri-lanka-attacks-had-incendiary-leader/

    The first question that comes to my admittedly antisemitic mind is, Is she a Jew? The name is suggestive. What clinches it is her Wikipedia photograph. So, there may have been one Muslim involved, but who can say? He was an internet creature.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @sarz
  112. Talha says:
    @Seraphim

    Cool. Thanks for your opinions.

    Peace.

    • LOL: NoseytheDuke
  113. Seraphim says:
    @Ali Baba

    The usual double-speak of Muslims. The Coran does not use the name ‘Christians’, but ‘al-Nasara’, the sect of the Nazarenes, or Ebionites, ” a heresy which is called that of the Minæans, and which is still condemned by the Pharisees; [its followers] are ordinarily called ‘Nasarenes‘;……..But while they pretend to be both Jews and Christians, they are neither.” They rejected the Divinity of Christ, while admitting the Virgin birth.
    The Coran makes a clear distinction between the proper Christians, who ‘associate other with Allah’ and are ‘defiantly disobedient’ (arogant) to Mahomed’s injunctions, and the Nazarenes whose beliefs are close to Mahomed’s (who actually copied them) and are not ‘arogant’.

    “You see many of them becoming allies of those who disbelieved. How wretched is that which they have put forth for themselves in that Allah has become angry with them, and in the punishment they will abide eternally.
    And if they had believed in Allah and the Prophet and in what was revealed to him, they would not have taken them as allies; but many of them are defiantly disobedient.
    You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah ; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, “We are Christians (al-Nasara).” That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant.
    And when they hear what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses.
    And why should we not believe in Allah and what has come to us of the truth? And we aspire that our Lord will admit us [to Paradise] with the righteous people.”

    The ‘defiantly disobedient and arogant’ are fair game. They can be ‘legally’ killed.

  114. Seraphim says:
    @Anonymous

    Thomas Jefferson was not the most intelligent of men. Besides, he was not a Christian, despite his hypocritical claims to be. Many of his contemporaries saw clearly, they considered him a “howling atheist” and infidel, claiming that his attraction to the religious and political extremism of the French Revolution disqualified him from public office:
    “Should the infidel Jefferson be elected to the Presidency, the seal of death is that moment set on our holy religion, our churches will be prostrated, and some infamous ‘prostitute’, under the title of goddess of reason, will preside in the sanctuaries now devoted to the worship of the most High.”

    • Replies: @Johnny Walker Read
  115. Surprised that tel-aviv boiler room trolls are spamming this article. That says to me the author is on to something. Why bother posting to discredit ?

    In any event –

    Everything is a LAVON AFFAIR

    history repeats itself

    9/11 = LAVON AFFAIR

    9/11 = King David Hotel Bombing

    Once you understand the art of war, you realize the war being played out in front of you.

  116. @AnonFromTN

    Agree 100%. Not only that. I believe that giving these gadgets to somebody younger than at least 20 is huge disservice and harm. I see kids as small as 4 already playing with smart phones. It would be interesting to see research as to what these devices do to kids development.

  117. @ThreeCranes

    Because English as a language is a disease of the mind.
    We don’t have different brains than the Anglosnakes.
    Only better teeth.

    English is really good for simple communication and that’s it.

    There’s the famous Monthy Python ‘Phillosophers Soccer’.

    There are only two languages to talk about god.

    Laughter, the most primitive of all emotions, is the only thing English is good for.

    And that’s the reason why the Anglosphere fell into the hands of those with a kirre sense of humor.

    • Replies: @Mike P
  118. Iris says:
    @sarz

    one can only read it in conjunction with Christchurch, Notre Dame and Al Aqsa as a last desperate instigation of Christian-Muslim civilizational war by the Judaic globalist order

    – The alleged “mastermind” of the terror attacks had extensive links and had undergone “training” in India. He’d been reported to the authorities for 3 years:

    “Hilmy Ahamed, the vice-president of the Muslim Council of Sri Lanka, told The Telegraph he had been trying to warn officials about Hashim’s extremism for three years after it emerged that he was radicalisng young pupils in his Koran classes.

    “We were very concerned that this guy was preaching hate on social media and uploading a lot of videos,” he said.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/23/sri-lanka-bombing-mastermind-named-moulvi-zahran-hashim/

    – On 4th April, the China-funded “Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank”, a global banking institution which counts members all over the world and is the rising rival to the World Bank, announced it had granted a US$ 0.3billion loan to Sri Lanka.
    https://www.aiib.org/en/news-events/news/2019/20190404_002.html

    – On the very same day, US and Indian intelligence services gave Sri Lanka advanced warning that terror attacks were in preparation.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-48016994

    – Two weeks later, the timely terror attacks were carried out. Action, reaction.

    The message is pretty clear: terror attacks are the expected punishment for joining the Chinese OBOR initiative, and for challenging the World Bank’s monopoly over usury.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @sarz
  119. @Kevin Barrett

    All you say here is true, but I also believe we can disrupt their “magic” by becoming aware of it and not giving them our energy through fear and misdirected anger at groups they have demonized.

  120. @Seraphim

    Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.
    -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

    But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
    -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

    What is it men cannot be made to believe!
    -Thomas Jefferson to Richard Henry Lee, April 22, 1786. (on the British regarding America, but quoted here for its universal appeal.)

    Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.
    -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

    Jefferson was a pretty much a Deist. If only Washington was now filled with Deist instead of these crazed Christian Zionist who are just itching to pull the trigger on Armageddon.

    Cult: In Deism, a cult is an embracing of unreasonable beliefs by a group of people. Based on this definition, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all cults because their members suspend their God-given reason in order to believe or accept the unreasonable dogmatic teachings and superstitions such as God giving real estate as a gift to the Jews, the resurrection and ascension of Jesus, faith-healing (as just one example of faith-healing being a superstition, if faith-healing was REAL innocent helpless children would not be dying from the attempts of their parents at Biblical faith-healing) and Mohammed’s ascension to heaven, among many more false and unreasonable claims. Because Deism always promotes free and independent thought and reason, it is impossible for Deism to become a cult.

    Deism: Deism is the recognition of a universal creative force greater than that demonstrated by mankind, supported by personal observation of laws and designs in nature and the universe, perpetuated and validated by the innate ability of human reason coupled with the rejection of claims made by individuals and organized religions of having received special divine revelation. (For an outstanding article on the definition of Deism click here.)

    Faith: This word has been so terribly abused by “revealed” religions that it has come to really mean the suspension of an individual’s God-given reason in order to accept, or at least to tolerate, an unreasonable claim made by a “revealed” religion. It is the only way “revealed” religions can get people to accept such insane and unreasonable claims and ideas as original sin, walking on water, healing the sick without medical care, splitting the Red Sea, etc. Deists prefer to use the word “trust” instead of faith due to the twisted meaning the word “faith” has acquired after centuries of abuse from the “revealed” religions.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  121. Seraphim says:
    @Johnny Walker Read

    It is self-evident that Jefferson’s ‘Nature’s God’ endowed you with much ‘free and independent thought and reason’. Pity that you are unable to make any use of it in your ‘pursuit of happiness’ without God.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  122. @Iris

    The message is pretty clear: terror attacks are the expected punishment for joining the Chinese OBOR initiative, and for challenging the World Bank’s monopoly over usury.

    Thanks, Iris, for being on the case.

    • Replies: @Iris
  123. anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    [Did they invent it themselves? One could explore however to what extent Mossad and Israel were involved in Sri Lanka civil war.]

    You are right. This is the signature of Mossad to use conflict around the globe to make more colonies, especially people of NON Arab like the traitor Kurd.

    As you mentioned It is difficult not mentioning Mossad’s role in Sri Lanka’s conflict. Victor Ostrovsky, that you mentioned, an Israeli spy and author of, By Way of Deception, claims that Mossad had trained Sri Lankan military personnel and a group of Tamil guerrilla factions simultaneously. It is said that the Tiger guerrillas acquired expertise in landmine technology during their Israeli training.

    But the Sri Lanka government made piece 10 years ago and this is not the time for Tamil to carry such a terror to threaten the government. It makes NO SENSE. However, it makes a lot of sense that to create another 9/11 to create chaos, but US and Israel need CHAOS to act.

    Christian Ammanpour, in her program on April 23, 2019, asked US ambassador to Sri Lank, Alaina B. Teplitz, about US information regarding the terror where was passed on to Sri Lankan government before terror was carried out. It was funny, since he pretended that SHE KNOWS SHIT ON THIS ISSUE. She was nervous and said ‘we are trying to identify those who are behind it”
    which is silly.

    The zionist media have already spread the propaganda lies that the Islamist were behind it and ISIS has claimed ‘responsibility.’ ISIS is US/Israel creation.

    Ammanpour who tried to get information out of her, told the ambassador: ‘I am not trying to say that you knew about the terror, but I am talking about the USG ‘tips’ given to Sri Lanka authories. Teplitz refused to answer and repeated her lies that she knows nothing about this issue.

    Now, it is more clear that Sri Lanka terror carried out by the SAME PEOPLE WHO STAGED 9/11.

  124. hasmat says:
    @ababush

    The reporter from Panamza and whoever else is able? Should get close to the site and scoop up as much dust & debris samples before they are disappeared. This stuff must be INDEPENDENTLY EXAMINED IN A LAB UNDER MICROSCOPE and thoroughly tested for all possible content- inc radioactive isotopes. What was very odd after 911– locals in NY were puzzled in the weeks after 911 how the city forbid radiation detector sales.

    • Replies: @Aetherwrought
  125. Mike P says:
    @Fuerchtegott

    If you don’t like English, that’s fine, in some ways it annoys me, too. However, it does have its strengths – for one, it is hard to beat for concision.

  126. Mulegino1 says:
    @TKK

    t’s disturbing that an article this ridiculous is published, anywhere- ever. Do you also believe an idiotic, rogue demented Rabbi was behind the Easter Butchering of Christians in Sri Lanka?

    Radical Islamic terror is mostly perpetrated by Wahhabis, whose terror groups are now almost entirely creatures of the Saudi-Israeli-CIA-MI6 condominium. This goes a lot toward explaining the fact that Israelis, allegedly the arch-nemeses of Islamic terror, are rarely, if ever, targeted or touched by these groups.

    These “Jihadists” appear to target those whom the Israelis considered their mortal enemies. In the Middle East, these would include Hezbollah, the Assad regime, the Iranian militias, the Houthis, etc.
    Abroad, their targets appear to be the more traditional Christian denominations, for whom those “demented Rabbis” have a special hatred. Although said venerable religious luminaries do not operationally plan or carry out the attacks, a large number of them encourage and applaud them, as the killing of the best of the Gentiles- and Christians in particular- is a Talmudic injunction, especially when such crimes are “good for the Jews.”

    • Agree: Iris
  127. Mike P says:
    @TKK

    It’s disturbing that an article this ridiculous is published, anywhere- ever. Do you also believe an idiotic, rogue demented Rabbi was behind the Easter Butchering of Christians in Sri Lanka?

    Yes. It is the most likely explanation – all this fake terror of “Christians” on Muslims, and of “Muslims” on Christians, is created to keep them apart. The timeline suggests that this attack was carried out to push Notre Dame out of the news, and to prevent Muslims from empathising with Christians.

    It’s time for Muslims and Christians to unite.

    • Agree: Robjil
  128. Talha says:
    @Mulegino1

    Pretty darn incredible, eh?

    Daesh literally wars with everyone:
    “ISIS Declares War on Hamas, and Gaza Families Disown Sons in Sinai…A Gaza man, Hamza al-Zamli, second from left, orders the execution of a captive accused of smuggling weapons to Hamas in a propaganda video by the Sinai branch of the Islamic State….It urges attacks on Hamas’s members, courts and security positions, as well as on Shiites and Christians in Gaza, according to the Washington-based SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors Islamic State propaganda.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/10/world/middleeast/isis-hamas-sinai.html

    …except one entity in the area – very peculiar, or not:
    “Israeli think tank: Don’t destroy ISIS; it’s a ‘useful tool’ against Iran, Hezbollah, Syria”
    https://www.salon.com/2016/08/23/israeli-think-tank-dont-destroy-isis-its-a-useful-tool-against-iran-hezbollah-syria/

    Peace.

    • Agree: Mulegino1
    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @alexander
  129. Druid says:
    @Seraphim

    You write utter nonsense!

  130. Druid says:
    @Endgame Napoleon

    Idiot, if you cannot see that 911 was an inside job, all of your thinking is stupid and misguided. Blame the Muslims for everything? You’ve drunk a bellyful of the juice, you dope!

  131. Benjamin Mouton who was Notre Dame Cathedral Chief Architect from 2000 to 2013, is saying the speed at which the fire spread along the roof frame of old oak is totally incomprehensible to him

  132. sarz says:
    @Iris

    Thanks for those pieces of the puzzle.

    We are basically on the same page, but as for the timing, I would put more emphasis on the relevance of the ongoing battles in the war of civilizations — Christchurch, Notre Dame, Al Aqsa — and Modi’s need for an Islamophobic booster shot in a demanding election, than the timing of a smallish Chinese loan. The Chinese have already funded that huge port. But yes, the global empire with handmaiden India against the sovereign nations is the game being played.

  133. Robjil says:
    @Talha

    Agree. Isis – Israel Secret Intelligence Service.

    This video from the 1990s proves it beyond doubt.

    Every time our “free” press says Isis did something, what they are really saying in Israeli forked tongue is that Israel and its friends did it. It is so artificial. We aren’t even “allowed” to investigate these events any more. We just have to “believe” whatever our “free” press says. At least in the cold war era, there was some “allowance” to investigate these events. Judge Felice Casson of Italy in 1984 discovered that most of the terrorists attacks in Western Europe in the cold war era was created by US/NATO. It was called Operation Gladio. We are in the second phrase of Operation Gladio which is mainly focused on Israel’s agenda.

    Any investigation of this new Operation Gladio is considered by our “free” press to be “conspiracy theory”. The term conspiracy theory was invented by CIA in early 1967 to stop people from investigating the JFK assassination. Conspiracy theory, the term comes from Latin/Greek origins, translated in Anglo- Saxon it would be perhaps – “hidden teamwork most likely”. The British and American Zion “free” press like the word “most likely”, it is used all the time to pin things of any nation that is “free” of the Zion US empire.

    • Replies: @Talha
  134. Talha says:
    @Robjil

    Great video – thanks!

    Peace.

  135. alexander says:
    @Talha

    Has Daesh (ISIS) ever made an official statement about the State of Israel ?

    Is there any record of ISIS ever attacking Israel …either directly ….or by proxy ?

    I have heard nothing to date .

    Like “nothing”.

    • Replies: @Talha
  136. Talha says:
    @alexander

    Yes and they “apologized” for it:
    “Isis-affiliated fighters ‘apologised’ after launching an attack on Israeli soldiers, the country’s former defence minister has claimed. Moshe Ya’alon was reportedly referring to an incident when a group linked to Isis in the Syrian Golan Heights exchanged fire with Israeli forces last November.”
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-israel-defence-force-apology-attack-unit-golan-heights-defense-minister-moshe-ya-alon-a7700616.html

    Think about this; this is a group so bloodthirsty, they blow up trucks near families eating ice cream or call for their followers to run over people with vans in the West – they even kill hundreds of Sunni scholars and imams execution-style as a matter of course:

    But, an accidental attack on Israeli soldiers? “Oops, sorry friends, same team!”

    And, of course, that accidental attack got Israel really upset so did they hit Daesh? No (from the same article):
    “During the interview, he said Israel carried out strikes against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s forces in retaliation when the Golan Heights was attacked.”

    Meaning; “Frickin’ ISIS, shooting at us – now we have to go bomb Assad or something to teach you guys a lesson!”

    Peace.

    • Replies: @alexander
  137. Iris says:
    @jacques sheete

    Hello Jacques;

    Here is an update about the fire at Notre-Dame, to be taken with a big pinch of salt, but very interesting nonetheless.

    A video has surfaced, taken from a public webcam, and said to have been filmed after the construction workers had left the Cathedral.
    It shows 2 black silhouettes moving busily around the spire for several minutes, and also what seems to be a flash/ignition.

    The video is without a doubt authentic, but there is no way to verify when it was shot.

    The French people are gutted and appalled and talk about the possible use of thermite.

  138. Mike P says:

    Meaning; “Frickin’ ISIS, shooting at us – now we have to go bomb Assad or something to teach you guys a lesson!”

    Peace.

    That concluding “Peace” sometimes seems out of place, but this time it was golden 😉

    • LOL: Talha
  139. alexander says:
    @Talha

    Right.

    I get you…the whole way.

    But has ISIS ever made a “statement” (official or otherwise) concerning the State of Israel ?

    Is there any record of ISIS commenting on “the occupation”…or the “theft” of Palestinian land ….in the West Bank ?

    • Replies: @Talha
  140. Polemos says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Thanks for the response!

    Have you ever heard of Robert Monroe?

  141. Talha says:

    Also – this is getting crazier and crazier:
    “Ten days before devastating bombings on Easter Sunday, a top Sri Lankan police official warned the security services in an advisory that a little-known radical Islamist group was planning suicide attacks against churches. Top government officials say the warning never reached them, and no action was taken against the group. ”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/world/asia/sri-lanka-religion-muslims-catholics.html

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Mike P
  142. Polemos says:
    @Seraphim

    Why is the One not Krishna?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  143. Polemos says:
    @wayfarer

    Do you consider yourself to not be a player? Or do you?

    Or is it a complex thing?

  144. Polemos says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Interesting account, and thank you for the opportunity to listen.

    Have you tried to develop your reception since then?

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  145. Talha says:
    @alexander

    You know, I have no clue. All of the statements I have ever come across talk about this or that Muslim government or this or that Muslim group/sect or against non-Muslim minorities or against Western countries. If you can find something, that would be great.

    I read one time of one attack they claimed as theirs – it was a stabbing (and I think shooting) of 2 or 3 Israeli soldiers in Jerusalem a couple of years ago, but Hamas and Shin Bet denied it was them. Seems like they were trying to claim it for free street cred.

    There are more clues though with the emerging Saudi-Israeli nexus:
    “Saudi Arabia supported Israel in its war against Hezbollah in Lebanon in 2006, an Israeli TV channel has claimed…
    In the third part of a series of reports entitled ‘Secrets of the Gulf,’ Israeli news channel Channel 13 reported on the secret relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia and quoted senior Israeli officials as saying that Tel Aviv had received letters from Riyadh urging it to strike Hezbollah with all its might.”
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190216-saudi-supported-israel-against-hezbollah-during-2006-war/

    Again, I want you to think about this. The vast majority of Muslims I know are Sunnis. I have never met a Sunni Muslim – ever – that was not happy that Israel got a thrashing in Lebanon in 2006. Not one.

    Which would lend credit to the theory that Daesh are proxy shock troops for both Israeli and Saudi interests in the region.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @alexander
  146. Seraphim says:
    @Polemos

    Because he is not!

    • Replies: @Polemos
  147. alexander says:
    @Talha

    I cannot say that Israel got a “thrashing” in the Lebanon war of 2006..

    I can say that Lebanon lost, Hezbollah “won”….and Israel looked like a “pariah”.

    It seems inconceivable that ISIS would not have a position on Israel.

    The only rational explanation for this , is that it is a functioning proxy for Israel.

    Your thoughts ?

    • Replies: @Talha
  148. @Mulegino1

    Exactly. Most Islamic terrorism is directed against other Muslims, usually with Shiites on the receiving end. As you note, Israel is never targeted by these groups, that claim to despise Israel.

    • Replies: @Mulegino1
  149. @Polemos

    No. Some intense, visionary dreams just occur spontaneously. Their content is not of this world, which leads me to believe that our minds in some sense do inherit memories. Some of my dream encounters with e.g. a luminous figure, were so powerful and disturbing that they disrupted my life. I have kept a dream journal since my teens.

    I have sought answers but our society has little to offer so I found myself groping about in the dark. With no one in a position of authority with whom I have shared my unusual encounters have I found a positive response or some sense of resonance. Finding no one who could help me unravel these visions, I was driven to read first the popular-press Jung and then everything the Bollingen (was it?) edition of Jung’s work had to offer on the collective unconscious, the archetypes etc. There I found some enlightenment.

    The content of these encounters has elaborated over time which leads me to believe that the mind’s development unfolds according to a sort of blueprint. I have no control over these manifestations; they occur spontaneously. Anyone who claims that being open to the unconscious is some sort of privilege is fooling themselves or others. It is sometimes terrifying and always mysterious. Sometimes it is profound. There are no answers. One must follow the path that is indicated by his/her own inner guide. I never make demands and have no expectations.

    • Replies: @Polemos
  150. Talha says:
    @alexander

    If you look at past wars, Israel is used to killing 15-20 enemy soldiers for each one they lose. This time the ratio was closer to 1 to 5 – that is unsustainable for them and it was done by a militia with zero air power and no mechanized divisions.

    These are my same thoughts. If it is not and official alliance, it is certainly a marriage of convenience between both parties who have mutual fish to fry.

    Peace.

  151. Polemos says:
    @Seraphim

    Yet Krishna says that he is that One whom all worship, including the things used in the worship, the one worshiping, even the worship itself. It’s all Krishna, the Supreme Expression and Being of All Reality and the innermost center of each consciousness who contemplates their own being, so he tells Arjuna. Before Jesus was, Krishna in you is. So to speak.

    Is that hard to consider? Is it easier to accept that your worship does not involve Krishna than that it does?

    How do you decide?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  152. Polemos says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Try reading some of Robert Monroe’s trilogy concerning his out of body experiences and what he came to learn about himself or us. If you found Jung helpful, his different approach to what an ego is might help. (Or maybe you already have read some and it hasn’t.) I found what Monroe relates to fit stories, narratives, and myths from Plato to Iroquois storytellers, from Emerson to Zhuangzi, across cultures and time periods. Of course, it could all just be wishful reading.

    Thank you for being open about this in a place where people indulge in humiliating savagery. Of course, it’s all words on screens, but still.

  153. Cathedral fire is suspicious, was probably set by CIA, MI5 Mossad or their French equivalent DGSI, they knew the blame would be put on Muslims by a large number of the brainwashed, Hasbara and Centcom sock puppets push the theory online, so theres no need for them to place blame on anyone in the MSM.

    ISIS has claimed the Sri Lanka attack, so it was at the very least influenced by CIA and Saudi ideology. The Saudi death squads strike, just as predicted after New Zealand. It will continue as long as CIA exists. As long as America keeps funding Saudis, selling them weapons that are then given to terrorists. As long as we give Israel billions with no conditions, the “terrorism” will continue.

    US military propping up Daesh in Afghanistan: Report
    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/04/23/594137/US-military-Afghanistan-war-Taliban-Daesh

    US colluding with Daesh in Afghanistan: Karzai
    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/11/12/541906/Afghanistan-Daesh-Karzai-US

    So long as this whole capitalist/fascist system exists, that has allowed these elites to acquire more wealth than entire countries, allowing them to buy off whole governments, the “terrorism” will continue. John Bolton and Rudy Giuliani are on terrorist group MEK Mojahedin Khalq payroll, out in the open supporting terrorism like its just another day at the office. But they’re our terrorists!

    Trump’s top picks for key posts back anti-Iran terror group
    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/11/27/495326/US-Donald-Trump-MujahidineKhalq-MeK-Rudy-Giuliani-John-Bolton-Iranian-terrorist-group

    John Bolton Took Money From Banks Tied To Cartels, Terrorists, Iran
    https://disobedientmedia.com/2019/04/john-bolton-took-money-from-banks-tied-to-cartels-terrorists-iran/

    Trump lawyer Giuliani steals show at anti-Iran event
    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/07/01/566643/United-States-MKO-Giuliani-Paris-Iran

    Tulsi has at least spoken out about the Saudi role, though she hasn’t called out the CIA or Israelis, its more than most politicians are willing to say. She smacks this Fox news goofball around pretty good. Would be nice if she would go all the way and call 9/11 what it was, and name all who were involved, guess shes not ready to be suicided yet. She knows, as all those puppets in DC know, Max Cleland, Cynthia McKinney, Dennis Kucinich were willing to speak up, they were cheated out of office by the puppets and CIA media.

    I honestly don’t think we’re gonna vote our way out of this level of criminality, this is the mafia controlling the most powerful military in the world, anything short of China or Russia nuking us, complete collapse or violent revolt isn’t going to get rid of these gangsters.

    Keep up the good work Tulsi. Better than most..

  154. Mulegino1 says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    The so called “conservatives” here in the US- who are in reality kosher dupes- have a serious problem with cognitive dissonance. They will rail on and on and on about “Mooslim terrorists” but when it is pointed out to them that the worst (and most violent anti-Christian) of these were created by the CIA and Mossad, are funded by the Saudis and the Gulf emirates and in some cases openly supported by the IDF, they will start yelling and screaming about Iran and Assad. If their kosher world view is a bit more perspicacious, they will talk about Hezbollah as well.

  155. @Seraphim

    How is it that JWR is unable to make any use of his independent thought and reason in his pursuit of happiness without God? As a self declared Deist he clearly has a belief in God and is free to pursue happiness, so don’t you really mean that he just doesn’t share your own belief in what constitutes God? Thanks.

  156. Dino says:
    @TKK

    The author was talking about Mary, and she is beloved by Muslims. It’s only Jews who consider her a whore.

    Some old rabbi had nothing to do with Notre Dame and Sri Lanka but you can bet a Mossad cell did

  157. Corvinus says:

    “Simultaneous Notre Dame/Al-Aqsa Fires: Coincidence or Conspiracy?”

    Really depends on your mileage.

    “One expert who answers “yes” is Robert David Steele.”

    Exactly, ONE expert. But his word alone does not suffice. There needs to be multiple sources with definitive proof, not just hearsay. Of course, Steele claims that the current pope as well as the presidents of France, Germany, and the UK are part of a satanic cabal behind what he says was the sick and twisted “sacrifice” of Notre Dame. He is making strong accusations, so where is the specific proof?“

    Now, he does admit he wasn’t there. Then he states “the shadow foreign minister of France called me”. Who is this person? Do we have verification? Authenticity? Who is also this “US reporter who posted a tweet that his Jesuit friend told him directly that the staff at Notre Dame said the fire was set deliberately”?

    Sounds like a fishing expedition for click bait. Next…

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  158. Ya’alon: I would prefer Islamic State to Iran in Syria

    Israeli Defense minister says jihadists don’t ‘have capabilities’ of Islamic Republic, which he brands Israel’s ‘greatest enemy’

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-i-would-prefer-islamic-state-to-iran-in-syria/

    Israeli Intelligence chief: We do not want ISIS defeat in Syria

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-intelligence-chief-not-want-isis-defeat-syria/

    Israeli intelligence Chief, Major General Herzi Halevy, said that the last three months have been the most difficult for ISIS since its inception.

    In a speech delivered at “Herzliya” conference yesterday , Halevy explicitly said “Israel” does not want the situation in Syria to end with the defeat of ISIS “, the Israeli NRG site reported.

    “Withdrawal of the super powers from the region and letting Israel alone in front of Hezbollah and Iran that possess good abilities Will make “Israel” in a hard position” . Therefore, we’ve to do all we can so as not finding ourselves in such situation”, the Israeli chief intelligence added.

  159. Reporter Sharmine Narwani on the secret history of America’s defeat in Syria

    https://www.salon.com/2019/04/21/reporter-sharmine-narwani-on-the-secret-history-of-americas-defeat-in-syria/

    You returned from Syria just last week — this after going in several times last year. The intervening months were important, given the war has just ended. What have you been seeing on the ground?

    My trips last year took place in May and June, in the weeks before the battle for the south of Syria began. I visited Daraa, Suweida and Quneitra, the three southern governorates most critical to the upcoming battle. It was fascinating. It dispelled a number of myths about the conflict for me. One of these was the discovery that al–Qaida was smack in the middle of the fight in Daraa, indistinguishable from Western-supported militant groups in all the main theaters. Another shocker was when I interviewed former al–Nusra and FSA [Free Syrian Army] fighters near the Lebanese border: They told me their salaries had been paid by the Israelis for the entire year before they surrendered, around $200,000 per month from Israel to militants in the town of Beit Jinn alone.

    • Replies: @Talha
  160. Mike P says:
    @Talha

    That document looks fishy. Big English title, but text in another language, BIG date stamp to prove it was before the attack …

    • Replies: @Talha
  161. @Polemos

    What people may say doesn’t faze me a bit. There are mysteries here that need examining. Here’s a simple, neutral example of what I am talking about.

    For a number of years I was infatuated with compass roses. I drew them in every configuration, every size and elaboration and calculated the math of their perspective and geometry (which hearken back to ancient roots i.e. why we have 24 hours in the day). Then I would paint them in contrasting colors.

    Then one day, many years later, I was flipping through some of my father’s textbooks from his college years and there on the inside cover he had drawn, in pencil, the exact same elaborate version of the compass rose that I had been investigating.

    Now I had never, ever seen any evidence of his interest in this sort of thing before nor had I talked with my father about anything remotely related to this. There is only one explanation. Evidently, both of our mind’s had gone through similar phases of development and that to such an extent that we shared this obsession.

    There is a genetic component to the content of our minds, what we think, feel and imagine. We are not blank slates.

  162. @Polemos

    What people may say doesn’t faze me a bit. There are mysteries here that need examining. Here’s a simple, neutral example of what I am talking about.

    For a number of years I was infatuated with compass roses. I drew them in every configuration, every size and elaboration and calculated the math of their perspective and geometry (which hearken back to ancient roots i.e. why we have 24 hours in the day). Then I would paint them in contrasting colors.

    Then one day, many years later, I was flipping through some of my father’s textbooks from his college years and there on the inside cover he had drawn, in pencil, the exact same elaborate version of the compass rose that I had been examining.

    Now I had never, ever seen any evidence of his interest in this sort of thing before nor had I talked with my father about anything remotely related to this.

    There is only one explanation. Evidently, both of our mind’s had gone through similar phases of development, and that, to such an extent that we shared this obsession.

    There is a genetic component to the content of our minds, what we think, feel and imagine. We are not blank slates. We are born programmed and, as Jung realized, that program shares common content and features with other members of our family and community.

  163. Talha says:
    @Mike P

    Possibly, I’m not an expert in these things. It could even be a CYA attempt by local constabulary to pass the buck to the central government; “see, we did our jobs and warned you – but you guys did nothing!”

    Peace.

  164. @Corvinus

    And your comment sounds like a cucking expedition to me for whatever reason cucks cuck.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Toby
  165. Seraphim says:
    @Polemos

    Why bring Krishna into the discussion regarding Islam vs Christianity?
    Anyhow, considering that there is no agreement (even between Indian scholars) on the date of the Mahabharata and Puranas (a period between c. 500 AC and 400 AD) one cannot place with any certitude the ‘historical’ Krishna beyond the 13th century AC (which would make him later than, or roughly contemporary with Abraham), and ascertain that his ‘pronouncements’ are not later additions of the ebullient imagination of the Hindu myth makers (cannot exclude Christian influences!). Not everyone buys into the happy-clappy Hare Krishna mythology, even if a favorite of the Presidential race is a Hare Krishna devotee.
    Then, how do you decide on the affirmation of the Christ that: ‘Your father Abraham was overjoyed to see My day. He saw it and was glad.” Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and Abraham have seen you?” “Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am”!

    Jesus is before Krishna.

    • Replies: @Polemos
  166. Corvinus says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    “And your comment sounds like a cucking expedition to me for whatever reason cucks cuck.”

    Why are you stuttering? Are you poking fun at them? Have you no shame? Now, do you have anything substantial to say, or are you going to hit and run like normal?

  167. @anonymous

    Great insights. You are correct, my friend. It is 100% a Zionist plan and agenda to push for tensions between Muslims and Catholic Christians (The most hated groups of the Zionists) to foment the Great War that they are frothing at the mouth for.

    They want greater Israel, they want that 3rd Temple, and they want to crown their messiah to “rule the world from Jerusalem.” Only chaos and bloodshed will bring it. However, it is such a nice breath of fresh air to see the Sri Lankan authorities not falling for this. They have said that this is an operation from a foreign organization. They know exactly who it is. All of us do.

  168. Toby says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Dr Katherine Horton undermined the credibility of Dr David Steele for me by this analysis (at 3.00):

  169. sarz says:
    @sarz

    A few further observations:

    A couple more observations. Both the US and India had sent warnings to Sri Lanka. Here’s the background for the Indian involvement :

    https://alethonews.com/2019/04/22/sri-lankan-authorities-may-have-fallen-into-a-trap-set-by-a-foreign-power/

    India and the US have been united in their anti-China scheming in this part of the world:

    https://alethonews.com/2018/02/08/maldives-crisis-us-indian-strategic-alliance-forming/

    The ‘group’ that did it was supposedly training in India.

    It’s odd that there is no proof of suicide bombing. There is a video of a man goung into a church with a backpack. We are told this was a suicide bombing.

    A woman is described as a suicide bomber. But then she was supposedly at home when police turned up snd she blew up herself, the police and her children. I wonder what proof there is to this story.

    ISIS has taken responsibility and has published a picture of the internet bad Muslim showing his face and seven fully shrouded accomplices.

    https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/23/isis-release-picture-sri-lanka-mastermind-seven-suicide-bombers-9293113/

    Many upper class Muslims were supposedly involved. No reason except for Christchurch is given. That is pretty remote for killing Sri Lankan Christians. Nothing adds up.

    The FBI has turned up, by invitation. The US ambassador, Alaina Teplitz, seems to be a Jew. Like the other American spook I mentioned, Anne Speckhard.

    • Replies: @Talha
  170. Talha says:
    @sarz

    showing his face and seven fully shrouded accomplices.

    Yeah – that helps! Look, that one on the left is Justin Beiber!

    No reason except for Christchurch is given.

    Which makes no sense since a coordinated operation like this at multiple facilities would require months of preparation. It’s a convenient narrative, but this would have happened regardless.

    Nothing adds up.

    Yup. Though it may come down to massive bungling and incompetence by the authorities. I’ve read that both the Muslim community was warning them and even the local police. And it looks like the president is asking for some key officials to resign:
    “Sri Lanka’s president has asked for the resignations of the defense secretary and national police chief, a dramatic internal shake-up after security forces shrugged off intelligence reports warning of possible attacks before Easter bombings that killed over 350 people, the president’s office said Wednesday.”
    http://time.com/5577216/sri-lanka-security-officials-resign-attack/

    That is pretty impressive, that rarely happens around here, incompetence seems to get rewarded…

    Peace.

    • Replies: @sarz
  171. sarz says:
    @Talha

    Sri Lanka’s president has asked for the resignations of the defense secretary and national police chief

    The Sri Lankan president tried last year to dismiss his somewhat pro-India prime minister and replace him with a more pro-China one. That was thwarted by the Supreme Court.

    India and the US seem to be seeking to destabilize Sri Lanka with these otherwise incomprehensible killings. And the dismissals are a response to that.

    The article I linked to above is a backgrounder. Here it is again.

    https://alethonews.com/2019/04/22/sri-lankan-authorities-may-have-fallen-into-a-trap-set-by-a-foreign-power/

    • Replies: @Talha
  172. Johan says:

    ‘Anti-universal-monotheism ideologies, which might be termed the ideologies of Antichrist, include atheism, Satanism, humanism, materialism, and at least some varieties of Judaism.’

    Humanism originates from the ancient Greeks (philosophers school), and it is woven as a thread through the centuries, maintaining itself in despite of the cruel dictatorship of Christianity (many humanists ended up burning at the stake).
    It where the humanists (Voltaire for instance) who fought to put an end to the dictatorship and barbarism of Christianity, for free speech, freedom of thought, and law and order, based on a rational evidence based system of justice.
    The humanism which is the humanism of modern twentieth century liberalism is a perverted regressive hijack of a humanism which is much older, and which perhaps should be spelled with a capital H.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  173. Talha says:
    @sarz

    Hmmmm – god stuff, thanks for the link.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  174. This must be the intelligent truthers who all flock to a Jew site. God help you!

  175. Seraphim says:
    @Johan

    It was the ‘humanism’ a la Voltaire and Enlightenment (Illuminism, actually) which led to the most monumental crimes against Humanity which have been the hallmark of the two centuries that followed, and dwarf any ‘crimes’ of the ‘cruel dictatorship’ of the Church.

    • Replies: @Johan
  176. @Talha

    Did you mean to type good stuff or Allah stuff?

    • Replies: @Talha
  177. @Polemos

    I’ll look into Robert Monroe’s books. Thanks for the lead.

  178. Polemos says:
    @Seraphim

    You claimed Jesus as (one of) the Almighty One, but it seems a title many share. Consider it curiosity that I asked.

    What does ‘AC’ stand for?

    Why do you think that Christian influences only flow in one direction (or are you not implying Christian ideas influenced Hindu compilers?) rather than the other possibilities, that what motivates the Vaishnava approach is something the New Testament compilers were also influenced by?

    I mean, do you think spiritual realities themselves unfold linearly?

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  179. Seraphim says:
    @Polemos

    AC is the abbreviation of the Latin ‘Ante Christum’ or ‘Ante Christum Natum’, meaning “Before Christ” or “Before Christ (was) Born.”
    It was the current way of datation, until PC suppressed the reference to Christ (like X-mas for Christ-mas=the Nativity of Christ).
    I was indeed implying that Christian ideas might have influenced the Hindu compilers. The New Testament is not a ‘compilation’ of various myths, but the written testimony of eye witnesses of an event precisely dated, the Incarnation, Passion and Resurrection of the Christ.

    • Replies: @Polemos
  180. Johan says:
    @Seraphim

    “It was the ‘humanism’ a la Voltaire and Enlightenment (Illuminism, actually) which led to the most monumental crimes against Humanity”

    Actually you are unfortunately the victim of Christian anti-enlightenment propaganda, Christians, having lost their power, their centuries long dictatorship finally being defeated are now in the margins through conspiracy theories on the move to blame all kinds of philosophers and scientists, from Francis Bacon to Voltaire, to neo-Platonists, atheists like Bertrand Russell, theosophists, etc.
    I have seen all of the above and others to be claimed to be the devil incarnated, some Christians even dedicated a whole book to prove that Bacon was the devil, or his first accomplish.

    At the same time, in the mainstream (different from the margins of conspiracy theorists) they are also trying to obfuscate the past, the many centuries of persecution, prosecution, torture and pocket filling, and trying to rewrite history, claiming that what is good about the enlightenment is due to a turn caused by Christianity…

    The Notre Dame, a symbol of Christian power mongering and dictatorship, besides ideology, architecturally cathedrals are often labyrinthic monsters. I’d say, since modernist and neo-modernist architecture is far worse, only for that reason its demise is a waste..

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  181. Seraphim says:
    @Johan

    The ‘Revolution’ to ‘liberate’ the ‘man’ (which starts with the American-French one) was the brain child of the Enlightenment and killed millions of Christians. “Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest”. Most of the Enlighteners were well to do people, not a few educated by the Jesuits they wanted to eviscerate, living comfortable lives, even hobnobbing with the royalty they wanted to strangle.

  182. @hasmat

    …or put up xenon lights to hide the Cherenkov radiation of the corium… Has anyone droned over the hole-pools and taken a reading? ;p

  183. Polemos says:
    @Seraphim

    Are there any eyewitness accounts that didn’t make it into the New Testament? Are each of the books or letters it comprises from eyewitnesses?

    Isn’t the first letter of ‘Christ’ in Greek the letter Chi, which looks like an X? How do you feel knowing that you claim an X is suppression of “Christ” immediately right after writing C is reference to “Christ”? I’d feel a bit silly about it, especially since both include translations of letters into other languages, but one is suppression and the other customary! But you’re not me, so maybe your self-awareness is different 😊 Maybe you say you explicitly wrote ‘like’ 😅

    Either way, I notice you didn’t take to answering my question specifically, so that’s probably good. Unfolding your view about nonlinear agency for spiritual realities when clearly you need historicity for your arguments to work won’t be too productive right now. Your values preclude your growth there. Maybe later 😉

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  184. Seraphim says:
    @Polemos

    At least you have the satisfaction to convince yourself that I am ‘un-grown’.
    The books and letters of the NT are all from eyewitnesses, participants in the events they describe, no matter that you ‘know’ otherwise. Have you been to the school of the ‘Jesus Seminar’?
    Your perceived ‘contradiction’ between the examples of suppression of the name of Christ from the system of datation (replaced by BCE/CE- ‘common era’) and from the greeting cards (‘X-mas’, ‘Season greetings”, etc) is indeed silly, because you refuse to perceive that they are both signs of the ongoing ‘polemic’ against Christianity. Replacing Christ with Krishna is part of the same war against Christianity.

  185. chris m says:

    that fire was nothing.
    France and rest of Europe can recover from these things
    after all the Great Fire of London was followed by the building of St Pauls Cathedral.

    no. the scary part was President Macrons ideas as to how to go about repairing the damage after
    the fire at Notre Dame.

    now that is scary.

  186. Blubb says:
    @ploni almoni

    I have no clue what you are trying to say. That Muslims rape and beat Europeans because the Jews… hypnotized them?

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