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World university rankings 2018

The Times Higher Education World University Rankings 2018 are now out, so I had a glance at it. They are claiming theirs is the best, because it covers 1000 research-intensive seats of higher learning, and because it was audited by PriceWaterhouseCoopers. What do accountants know about universities? I suppose they checked the figures on the assessments already determined, but the essence of a university is what it discovers. Teaching is a necessity for self-preservation, grant income likewise, citations are delayed measure of discovery, and all the rest is noise. At least this ranking does not spend too much time on the student experience, whatever that is.

Anyway, the top 25 universities are:

Oxford, Cambridge, CalTech and Stanford, MIT, Harvard, Princeton, Imperial College, Chicago, Zurich, Pennsylvania, Yale, John Hopkins, Columbia, UCLA, UCL, Duke, California Berkley, Cornell, Northwestern, Michigan, Singapore and Toronto, Carnegie Mellon, LSE and Washington.

The scores is: UK 5, USA 18, Europe, Canada and Singapore 1 each. It is good to see Britain leading the pack, but the wider picture is the rise of Chinese universities (27th and 30th places), and it will be interesting to see how soon they enter the top 25. Will they lack curiosity and creativity, or will they just march through the institutions, casting aside all before them? IQ results suggest the latter, but they might be conformist, constrained and bound by saucy doubts and fears. We shall see.

As for the top 25 in Psychology, it is good to see my institution gets a good ranking at second place to Stanford. I cannot claim to have contributed to it, because I doubt these measures include bloggers, although blogging is the new publishing, and has a greater reach than lecturing.

The pecking order in Psychology is Stanford, UCL, Princeton, Harvard, Duke, and then 15 of the top 25 are in the US, the other mentions being British Columbia, Toronto, Amsterdam, Karolinska, and Edinburgh.

So, the most highly ranked psychology comes from the United States and Canada, with four from the old continent: 2 British, one Dutch, one Swedish. Basically, Britain and overseas Britain. Of course, that might give just a bit too much credence to the witterings of Anglo-Saxon minds, but why not? The list of influential achievements supports it. The Dutch and Swedish are close in history and ancient ancestry, and so cousins in the European sense of that concept, and can be welcomed without resentment, and just a bit of condescension.

Europe was the first mover with its ancient universities, but has lost its way. Perhaps unreformed religion got in the way. Neither Africa nor South America have reached world status. To find the up and rising universities one can look at the top 100, but that mostly takes in more of the US, Europe and former British colonies. Hong Kong and South Korea show up above 100 but the general point is already made. Setting aside a place for independent thinking is an Anglo-Saxon/European pastime. The field is open for other cultures to develop these seats of learning and pull in the best minds from all over the world. Saudi Arabia has tried that, with oil money, but the general Arab representation is very weak. Perhaps the institutions should be classified by the nominal religions of the host countries. Comparisons are odious, but very interesting.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2018/subject-ranking/psychology#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

 
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  1. “the wider picture is the rise of Chinese universities (27th and 30th places), and it will be interesting to see how soon they enter the top 25. Will they lack curiosity and creativity”?

    The rankings are at odds with other, on-the-ground observations which also go some way to answering your questions. According to the Japan Science and Technology Agency, China now ranks as the most influential country in four of eight core scientific fields, tying with the U.S. The agency took the top 10% of the most referenced studies in each field, and determined the number of authors who were affiliated with the U.S., the U.K., Germany, France, China or Japan. China ranked first in computer science, mathematics, materials science and engineering. The U.S., on the other hand, led the way in physics, environmental and earth sciences, basic life science and clinical medicine. China is also rapidly catching up in physics, where the U.S. has long dominated. It is spending more than $6 billion to build the world’s largest particle accelerator, which could put it at the forefront of particle physics. https://tinyurl.com/ydeqeqnb

    China also leads in all fields of civil engineering, Manufacturing, Supercomputing, Speech Recognition, Graphenics, Thorium power, Pebble Bed Reactors, Genomics, Thermal Power generation, Quantum Communication Networks, ASW Missiles, In-orbit Satellite Refueling, Passive Array Radar, Metamaterials, Hyperspectral Imaging, Nanotechnology, UHV Electricity transmission, Electric Vehicles, High Speed Rail, Sustainable Energy, Radiotelescopy, All fields of Sustainable Energy Research and Manufacturing, Hypersonic Space Weapons, Satellite Quantum Communications and quantum secure direct communications.

    Looks like curiosity is alive and well in the Middle Kingdom..

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  2. JackOH says:

    ” . . . [T]he essence of a university is what it discovers. Teaching is a necessity for self-preservation, grant income likewise, citations are delayed measure of discovery, and all the rest is noise. At least this ranking does not spend too much time on the student experience, whatever that is.”

    Hat’s off, Prof. Thompson. I’m going to find some way of getting this statement of yours into my local Podunk Tech, a local state university that was once well-regarded but seems to have lost its way. I’d like to think the professors and instructors of a half-century ago were aware of your definition, but had to content themselves with teaching to mostly sons and daughters of working stiffs.

    These days there are very credible published accounts of senior professors actively discouraging energetic junior professors from “discover-ship”, simply because the seniors want an unruffled featherbed, and students are unlikely to notice professors who are not on top of their game. Those senior professors may be aware that “discover-ship” distinguishes the professor from the high school teacher. They just don’t care.

    Student experience? Our Podunk actually has a vice-president of “student experience”.

    Thanks for your contributions here. Yep, I’m delighted that three of the overall top 100 universities are within a three-hour drive from me, two of them about a one-hour drive.

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  3. does UCL have a good astrology department too?

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    • Replies: @animalogic
    For the purposes of higher efficiency the Astrology Dept has been merged with the Economics Dept. The Astrology Professors are quite embarrassed.
    , @FKA Max
    They should have put their trust in astrology, like Benjamin Franklin… - https://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218

    Benjamin Franklin had a remarkable mind, perhaps the most powerful among the founding fathers. Reading his papers, and accounts of his life, quickly persuades one that his IQ was very high.

    I checked some websites on the Internet, and found estimates ranging from 160 to 175. Unfortunately, none of the sites adequately established the basis for their famous-people IQ estimates, or otherwise cited sources or described the methodologies used to calculate their numbers.
     
    - https://www.counter-currents.com/2012/08/benjamin-franklin-on-sex-marriage-and-family/

    USA Astrology Chart: Rectified

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_alSSOpYxAA

    Predict Donald Trump Win by Master Yu Gui Feng on Sept 22,2016 SkyNews

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f42MW0OGoo

    On 22/09/2016, Master Feng predicted Donald Trump Win and Hillary Clinton will lose US Presidential Election 2016 on Sky News.
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  4. @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    does UCL have a good astrology department too?

    For the purposes of higher efficiency the Astrology Dept has been merged with the Economics Dept. The Astrology Professors are quite embarrassed.

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    commenting on your own blog is sad!
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  5. dearieme says:

    If they gave a Nobel for Geophysics this kid might be a contender.

    https://stv.tv/news/features/1395981-edinburgh-student-uncovers-antarctica-volcanoes-in-spare-time/

    I should add that I’d find it very refreshing if the Physics Nobel went to proper practical physicists – such as this wee gang – rather than the fantasists of astronomy/cosmology/particle physics. But the latter mob have the Nobels all sown up.

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    Lovely way to pass the summer holiday.
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  6. @dearieme
    If they gave a Nobel for Geophysics this kid might be a contender.
    https://stv.tv/news/features/1395981-edinburgh-student-uncovers-antarctica-volcanoes-in-spare-time/

    I should add that I'd find it very refreshing if the Physics Nobel went to proper practical physicists - such as this wee gang - rather than the fantasists of astronomy/cosmology/particle physics. But the latter mob have the Nobels all sown up.

    Lovely way to pass the summer holiday.

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    https://memecreator.org/static/images/memes/4682070.jpg
    sad!
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  7. @animalogic
    For the purposes of higher efficiency the Astrology Dept has been merged with the Economics Dept. The Astrology Professors are quite embarrassed.

    commenting on your own blog is sad!

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    Your reply to me is aimed at the writer of this article, yes ?
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  8. @James Thompson
    Lovely way to pass the summer holiday.


    sad!

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  9. “lovely way to pass the summer holiday,” he whispered in her ear.

    “oh my God what a fag,” she said.

    THE TYRANNY OF HOMOS = BLIGHTY!

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    Vitela is a variant type of FKA Max...



    Trump hate alcoholic losers...

    https://news2-images.vice.com//uploads/2017/05/trump-laughing-1024x678.jpg
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  10. FKA Max says: • Website
    @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    does UCL have a good astrology department too?

    They should have put their trust in astrology, like Benjamin Franklin…https://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218

    Benjamin Franklin had a remarkable mind, perhaps the most powerful among the founding fathers. Reading his papers, and accounts of his life, quickly persuades one that his IQ was very high.

    I checked some websites on the Internet, and found estimates ranging from 160 to 175. Unfortunately, none of the sites adequately established the basis for their famous-people IQ estimates, or otherwise cited sources or described the methodologies used to calculate their numbers.

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2012/08/benjamin-franklin-on-sex-marriage-and-family/

    USA Astrology Chart: Rectified

    Predict Donald Trump Win by Master Yu Gui Feng on Sept 22,2016 SkyNews

    On 22/09/2016, Master Feng predicted Donald Trump Win and Hillary Clinton will lose US Presidential Election 2016 on Sky News.

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    IQ is a measure. IQ is NOT measured.

    so speculation regarding franklin's IQ is retarded.

    psychologists and HBDers don't know the difference between words and things.

    sad!

    the point is immigration is a yuge problem for blighty, but it's NOT blighty's biggest problem.

    blighty's biggest problem is its class system. white boys are the worst performing group in blighty schools.

    blighty is the most rigidly stratified country in the OECD...even more so than 'mer'ca.

    it also has the biggest trade deficit as a % of its GDP...because making stuff is declasse in blighty.

    jimmy's pleonastic prose style demonstrates that he is a snob. just another social climber/pretender in the british class system.

    if only nick griffin had had a better accent.

    , @Anon
    Are you a regular troll, or some type of program that weaves semi-related links into any comments thread?
    , @Bill Jones
    An IQ of 160 plus is not bad but nothing to write home about.
    It's what? 4sds up from the average pleb?
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  11. @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    commenting on your own blog is sad!

    Your reply to me is aimed at the writer of this article, yes ?

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    you are the writer of this article. aren't you?

    the same group of toffs to which jimmy would belong, ruined ZA and ZIM.

    the british elite hate their fellow brits.

    they always have.

    so naturally they welcome the replacement of the chavs by bengalis et al.

    NEVER FORGET!

    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/80/bf/4f/80bf4f69cbc74f3739e60dbedb72946e--ian-smith-spaniels.jpg

    my grandfather graduated stonyhurst.

    jimmy's granddad cleaned pubic lavatories.

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  12. @FKA Max
    They should have put their trust in astrology, like Benjamin Franklin… - https://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218

    Benjamin Franklin had a remarkable mind, perhaps the most powerful among the founding fathers. Reading his papers, and accounts of his life, quickly persuades one that his IQ was very high.

    I checked some websites on the Internet, and found estimates ranging from 160 to 175. Unfortunately, none of the sites adequately established the basis for their famous-people IQ estimates, or otherwise cited sources or described the methodologies used to calculate their numbers.
     
    - https://www.counter-currents.com/2012/08/benjamin-franklin-on-sex-marriage-and-family/

    USA Astrology Chart: Rectified

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_alSSOpYxAA

    Predict Donald Trump Win by Master Yu Gui Feng on Sept 22,2016 SkyNews

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f42MW0OGoo

    On 22/09/2016, Master Feng predicted Donald Trump Win and Hillary Clinton will lose US Presidential Election 2016 on Sky News.

    IQ is a measure. IQ is NOT measured.

    so speculation regarding franklin’s IQ is retarded.

    psychologists and HBDers don’t know the difference between words and things.

    sad!

    the point is immigration is a yuge problem for blighty, but it’s NOT blighty’s biggest problem.

    blighty’s biggest problem is its class system. white boys are the worst performing group in blighty schools.

    blighty is the most rigidly stratified country in the OECD…even more so than ‘mer’ca.

    it also has the biggest trade deficit as a % of its GDP…because making stuff is declasse in blighty.

    jimmy’s pleonastic prose style demonstrates that he is a snob. just another social climber/pretender in the british class system.

    if only nick griffin had had a better accent.

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    I think the real snob is you, sir.

    And the sad thing is you don't even seem to be aware of it...

    Did you attend a boarding school in your youth like your grandfather did, and was he and are you Catholic, since Stonyhurst is a Jesuit school? Many people who attended boarding schools for long periods of time or at a very young age are damaged goods, psychologically and emotionally.

    Boarding Schools - what are they like?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBOlVTSiOEs

    The UK is not doing great, but not exactly terrible either in income inequality rankings; better than the U.S. actually.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html

    Countries' income inequality according to their most recent reported Gini index values (often 10+ years old) as of 2014: red = high, green = low inequality

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/2014_Gini_Index_World_Map%2C_income_inequality_distribution_by_country_per_World_Bank.svg/1200px-2014_Gini_Index_World_Map%2C_income_inequality_distribution_by_country_per_World_Bank.svg.png

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient#Countries_by_Gini_Index

    My experience is that Mr. Thompson is a very nice, modest and generous human being. And I am not the only one who thinks and says so.

    Comment from the following Youtube video:

    Pipweed SaysSorry 1 year ago

    Love this dude's blog. Accessible, but very, very informative. Should be far more popular.
     
    Mini-lecture: Chilean miners' psychological struggles (UCL)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cUQTx7bNHo
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  13. @animalogic
    Your reply to me is aimed at the writer of this article, yes ?

    you are the writer of this article. aren’t you?

    the same group of toffs to which jimmy would belong, ruined ZA and ZIM.

    the british elite hate their fellow brits.

    they always have.

    so naturally they welcome the replacement of the chavs by bengalis et al.

    NEVER FORGET!

    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/80/bf/4f/80bf4f69cbc74f3739e60dbedb72946e–ian-smith-spaniels.jpg

    my grandfather graduated stonyhurst.

    jimmy’s granddad cleaned pubic lavatories.

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  14. FKA Max says: • Website
    @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    IQ is a measure. IQ is NOT measured.

    so speculation regarding franklin's IQ is retarded.

    psychologists and HBDers don't know the difference between words and things.

    sad!

    the point is immigration is a yuge problem for blighty, but it's NOT blighty's biggest problem.

    blighty's biggest problem is its class system. white boys are the worst performing group in blighty schools.

    blighty is the most rigidly stratified country in the OECD...even more so than 'mer'ca.

    it also has the biggest trade deficit as a % of its GDP...because making stuff is declasse in blighty.

    jimmy's pleonastic prose style demonstrates that he is a snob. just another social climber/pretender in the british class system.

    if only nick griffin had had a better accent.

    I think the real snob is you, sir.

    And the sad thing is you don’t even seem to be aware of it…

    Did you attend a boarding school in your youth like your grandfather did, and was he and are you Catholic, since Stonyhurst is a Jesuit school? Many people who attended boarding schools for long periods of time or at a very young age are damaged goods, psychologically and emotionally.

    Boarding Schools – what are they like?

    The UK is not doing great, but not exactly terrible either in income inequality rankings; better than the U.S. actually.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html

    Countries’ income inequality according to their most recent reported Gini index values (often 10+ years old) as of 2014: red = high, green = low inequality

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient#Countries_by_Gini_Index

    My experience is that Mr. Thompson is a very nice, modest and generous human being. And I am not the only one who thinks and says so.

    Comment from the following Youtube video:

    Pipweed SaysSorry 1 year ago

    Love this dude’s blog. Accessible, but very, very informative. Should be far more popular.

    Mini-lecture: Chilean miners’ psychological struggles (UCL)

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    • Replies: @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    income inequality and social mobility are related but not the same.

    try harder.

    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/research-policy/wp/2010/10-06/05.htm/twp10-06-17.gif

    and of course i'm NOT an rc, but i do hate protestants.

    in rc terminology...my spirituality is carthusian.

    but my family name is as rc as it gets.

    name is the publisher of so many rc books it's sad!

    my family name is swiss, but i'm at least 75% british isles (english and irish), unfortunately.

    my spanish ancestry on both sides may be a rumor and not a fact, unfortunately.

    try harder jimmy.
    http://www.oriolcasanovas.com/2014/11/carthusian-monastery-026.jpg

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  15. @FKA Max
    I think the real snob is you, sir.

    And the sad thing is you don't even seem to be aware of it...

    Did you attend a boarding school in your youth like your grandfather did, and was he and are you Catholic, since Stonyhurst is a Jesuit school? Many people who attended boarding schools for long periods of time or at a very young age are damaged goods, psychologically and emotionally.

    Boarding Schools - what are they like?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBOlVTSiOEs

    The UK is not doing great, but not exactly terrible either in income inequality rankings; better than the U.S. actually.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2172rank.html

    Countries' income inequality according to their most recent reported Gini index values (often 10+ years old) as of 2014: red = high, green = low inequality

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/2014_Gini_Index_World_Map%2C_income_inequality_distribution_by_country_per_World_Bank.svg/1200px-2014_Gini_Index_World_Map%2C_income_inequality_distribution_by_country_per_World_Bank.svg.png

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient#Countries_by_Gini_Index

    My experience is that Mr. Thompson is a very nice, modest and generous human being. And I am not the only one who thinks and says so.

    Comment from the following Youtube video:

    Pipweed SaysSorry 1 year ago

    Love this dude's blog. Accessible, but very, very informative. Should be far more popular.
     
    Mini-lecture: Chilean miners' psychological struggles (UCL)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cUQTx7bNHo

    income inequality and social mobility are related but not the same.

    try harder.

    and of course i’m NOT an rc, but i do hate protestants.

    in rc terminology…my spirituality is carthusian.

    but my family name is as rc as it gets.

    name is the publisher of so many rc books it’s sad!

    my family name is swiss, but i’m at least 75% british isles (english and irish), unfortunately.

    my spanish ancestry on both sides may be a rumor and not a fact, unfortunately.

    try harder jimmy.

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    How Social Darwinism Made Modern China

    Remarkable Upward Mobility But Relentless Downward Mobility

    However, the flip-side of possible peasant upward mobility was the far greater likelihood of downward mobility, which was enormous and probably represented the single most significant factor shaping the modern Chinese people. Each generation, a few who were lucky or able might rise, but a vast multitude always fell, and those families near the bottom simply disappeared from the world. Traditional rural China was a society faced with the reality of an enormous and inexorable downward mobility: for centuries, nearly all Chinese ended their lives much poorer than had their parents.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/#remarkable-upward-mobility-but-relentless-downward-mobility

    Prosperity, Not Upward Mobility, Is What Matters


    Most people outside of academia tend to judge their economic progress in absolute terms. By this standard, when household incomes are adjusted for family size along with the vast increase in social-welfare transfers (including the Earned Income Tax Credit, enacted in 1975), a substantial majority of couples in their 30s are living in families with incomes higher than those of their parents at that age. And most of those who are not better off than their parents were born to families in the upper income brackets; their household incomes stand to be supplemented by an ample inheritance. In this sense the American dream is alive and well: In a society of abundance, the tangible benefits of absolute mobility leave many citizens immune to the presumed sting of relative deprivation.
     
    - https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/01/prosperity-upward-mobility/511925/

    Too much competition/mobility is not good for innovation and quality control. A certain degree of exclusivity/privilege provides a creative/political "safe space" and allows one to think long-term, instead of only thinking in short-term strategies on how to out-compete one's rivals, etc., which then leads to higher quality products and outcomes.

    The innovations that are hatched in these exclusive, "immobile" spaces, i.e., universities, class systems, etc. then benefit the entire society.

    It is "trickle-down" science instead of "trickle-down" economics.

    Of course, this requires a certain noblesse oblige attitude from the elites, which I believe is still more prevalent in the British elite than in the U.S. elite.

    London Journal; Now It's Noblesse Oblige vs. the Trickle-Downers


    But some onlookers say the fight is actually a much larger contest in which the free-market principles and enterprise culture of modern-day Thatcherism are squaring off against the old-school noblesse oblige of Britain's patricians.
    [...]
    A spokesman for the Duke has said that the clause was deliberately inserted in the lease and that he wanted to keep it in. Peter Bradley, a Labor councilman, described the Duke's decision as an example of "Conservatism with a conscience."

    "I have a lot of respect for people like the Duke who have privileges but also feel responsibility," Mr. Bradley said. "It is paternalistic and outdated, but Thatcherites like Lady Porter believe markets should determine how people should live -- the trickle-down theory which doesn't work."
    [...]
    At the Grosvenor Housing Estate, where many apartments are riddled with damp and rot and bath tubs are housed in tiny kitchens, several residents backed the Duke's position. Hanging out her laundry, Christine Kelsey figured that the working class existed and that anyone who wasn't "bone-idle lazy" was a member. She said that the apartments should be reserved for anyone so described.
     

    - http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/31/world/london-journal-now-it-s-noblesse-oblige-vs-the-trickle-downers.html
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  16. yes!

    i am a roman catholic in one very important sense.

    so far as i cannot reconcile myself to the see of peter…

    i am ir-religious. but a believer all the same.

    And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

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    No buddy, care!1

    Look like a typical millieudennial talking about itself... it's sad!!



    God'S loves you TOO!!!
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  17. because in the final tearful and desperate analysis…

    peter is gold.

    all else is at most brass.

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  18. FKA Max says: • Website
    @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    income inequality and social mobility are related but not the same.

    try harder.

    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/research-policy/wp/2010/10-06/05.htm/twp10-06-17.gif

    and of course i'm NOT an rc, but i do hate protestants.

    in rc terminology...my spirituality is carthusian.

    but my family name is as rc as it gets.

    name is the publisher of so many rc books it's sad!

    my family name is swiss, but i'm at least 75% british isles (english and irish), unfortunately.

    my spanish ancestry on both sides may be a rumor and not a fact, unfortunately.

    try harder jimmy.
    http://www.oriolcasanovas.com/2014/11/carthusian-monastery-026.jpg

    How Social Darwinism Made Modern China

    Remarkable Upward Mobility But Relentless Downward Mobility

    However, the flip-side of possible peasant upward mobility was the far greater likelihood of downward mobility, which was enormous and probably represented the single most significant factor shaping the modern Chinese people. Each generation, a few who were lucky or able might rise, but a vast multitude always fell, and those families near the bottom simply disappeared from the world. Traditional rural China was a society faced with the reality of an enormous and inexorable downward mobility: for centuries, nearly all Chinese ended their lives much poorer than had their parents.

    http://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/#remarkable-upward-mobility-but-relentless-downward-mobility

    Prosperity, Not Upward Mobility, Is What Matters

    Most people outside of academia tend to judge their economic progress in absolute terms. By this standard, when household incomes are adjusted for family size along with the vast increase in social-welfare transfers (including the Earned Income Tax Credit, enacted in 1975), a substantial majority of couples in their 30s are living in families with incomes higher than those of their parents at that age. And most of those who are not better off than their parents were born to families in the upper income brackets; their household incomes stand to be supplemented by an ample inheritance. In this sense the American dream is alive and well: In a society of abundance, the tangible benefits of absolute mobility leave many citizens immune to the presumed sting of relative deprivation.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/01/prosperity-upward-mobility/511925/

    Too much competition/mobility is not good for innovation and quality control. A certain degree of exclusivity/privilege provides a creative/political “safe space” and allows one to think long-term, instead of only thinking in short-term strategies on how to out-compete one’s rivals, etc., which then leads to higher quality products and outcomes.

    The innovations that are hatched in these exclusive, “immobile” spaces, i.e., universities, class systems, etc. then benefit the entire society.

    It is “trickle-down” science instead of “trickle-down” economics.

    Of course, this requires a certain noblesse oblige attitude from the elites, which I believe is still more prevalent in the British elite than in the U.S. elite.

    London Journal; Now It’s Noblesse Oblige vs. the Trickle-Downers

    But some onlookers say the fight is actually a much larger contest in which the free-market principles and enterprise culture of modern-day Thatcherism are squaring off against the old-school noblesse oblige of Britain’s patricians.
    [...]
    A spokesman for the Duke has said that the clause was deliberately inserted in the lease and that he wanted to keep it in. Peter Bradley, a Labor councilman, described the Duke’s decision as an example of “Conservatism with a conscience.”

    I have a lot of respect for people like the Duke who have privileges but also feel responsibility,” Mr. Bradley said. “It is paternalistic and outdated, but Thatcherites like Lady Porter believe markets should determine how people should live — the trickle-down theory which doesn’t work.”
    [...]
    At the Grosvenor Housing Estate, where many apartments are riddled with damp and rot and bath tubs are housed in tiny kitchens, several residents backed the Duke’s position. Hanging out her laundry, Christine Kelsey figured that the working class existed and that anyone who wasn’t “bone-idle lazy” was a member. She said that the apartments should be reserved for anyone so described.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/31/world/london-journal-now-it-s-noblesse-oblige-vs-the-trickle-downers.html

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    Dennis Skinner, the Labour MP for Bolsover, said: "There is still a working class. It's exploited every day by people with fancy names such as entrepreneur."[4] Joe Ashton, the Labour MP for Bassetlaw, said: "The Lady Porters will always need the working classes to clean up after them. It shows that nobs [slang: nobility] like the Duke know more about how the world ticks than the heiress to a Tesco fortune."
     

    Shirley Porter said: "In a week when the son of a trapeze artist [John Major] has been battling to become Prime Minister... the courts have ruled that we must remain wedded to an outdated class system."
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_City_Council_v_Duke_of_Westminster#Reactions

    Lady Porter feels no real loyalty and allegiance towards the native British working class because she is no part of the native British people, the Duke of Westminster is/was, and that is why she also wanted to get rid of "an outdated class system". Native elites are a protective mechanism which prevents foreign elites, which usually do not have the natives' best interest at heart, to take over their countries. The U.S. does not have as rigid of a class system as Britain and therefore it is more vulnerable to hostile takeovers by non-native elites/groups, be they Jewish, Communist/Chinese, Catholic, Muslim, etc.

    Dame Shirley Porter, Lady Porter

    Shirley Cohen was born in Upper Clapton, London, on 29 November 1930. Her father, Jacob Edward "Jack" Cohen, was the founder and owner of Tesco, and her mother was Sarah "Cissie" (née Fox), the daughter of a master tailor.[8][9] Cohen opened the first two Tesco stores in 1929. By 1939, he owned over 100 Tesco stores across the country.[8] The family lived at 7 Gunton Road, Hackney, a former council house in the East End of London that Jack had purchased from Hackney Council with the help of a £1,000 council loan.[10]
    [...]
    In 1960 Porter was involved in the exposure of 10 Golf Clubs in north London for discriminating against Jews.[17]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Porter

    Most of her charitable giving is focused on Israel, not the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Porter#Philanthropy

    In a review for The Guardian of Nothing Like a Dame, Porter's biography by journalist Andrew Hosken, Nicholas Lezard described her in the following terms: "She remains, by a considerable margin, the most corrupt British public figure in living memory, with the possible exception of Robert Maxwell"[who was also ethnically Jewish and not part of the native British elite/people either].

    It is “trickle-down” science instead of “trickle-down” economics.
     
    Here some examples of ""trickle-down" science" in case it was unclear what I meant by this term:

    Big science's trickle-down effect

    One of the main justifications for the billions we spend on big, state-of-the-art science projects like the Large Hadron Collider is not the discoveries they make (although those are obviously important in their own right), but the way in which these showcase projects drive technological innovation across a range of other applications.

    So the space race put a man on the moon, but it also generated dramatic advances in computing, engineering, materials science and navigation - advances that we all take for granted today.

    In the same way the last big atom smasher at Cern, the LEP, gave us MRI scanners and the World Wide Web.
     
    - http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-16945692
    , @FKA Max
    A good man.

    Duke of Westminster in his own words - BBC News

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9GAD1-K0O4

    The Duke of Westminster, Gerald Cavendish Grosvenor, has died at the age of 64. In archive interviews with the BBC, he explains his attitude to his wealth and title, and his business.


    This idyll was rudely interrupted at the age of eight when he was sent to boarding school for which he was little prepared. He was schooled at Sunningdale and then Harrow. It served to teach him that if you are happy and placed in a sympathetic environment you will learn. Unfortunately, his time at school was not happy. Speaking with a “broad Irish” accent he did not settle easily and his unhappiness at school was in direct proportion to his lack of achievement in the classroom, where he found little of relevance, other than History and English. Ironically, and despite the unflattering remarks on his school reports, by the end of his life he had accumulated seven honorary degrees, which reflected the time and patronage he gave to education in the North West of England.
     
    - http://www.grosvenorestate.com/duke-of-westminster.aspx
    , @FKA Max

    Too much competition/mobility is not good for innovation and quality control. A certain degree of exclusivity/privilege provides a creative/political “safe space” and allows one to think long-term, instead of only thinking in short-term strategies on how to out-compete one’s rivals, etc., which then leads to higher quality products and outcomes.
     
    These "higher quality products" also include human beings.

    I argued before that extremely competitive/socially mobile/social Darwinian societies and environments actually select against higher intelligence:

    It seems that very harsh and “Social Darwinist” environments and cultures do not necessarily select for intelligence exclusively, or maybe not even predominately, but that they mostly select for risk taking, aggressiveness, ruthlessness, i.e., psychopathic and rather anti-social traits. - http://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/#comment-1866207


    Human beings don’t come much cleverer or more inspiring than Professor Stephen Hawking. So it was a classy touch to leave the studio for only the second time in the show’s 55-year history and go over to Cambridge’s Gonville & Caius College, Cambridge. The world’s foremost scientist paid warm, witty tribute to Balliol team, saying: “It’s not clear whether intelligence has any long-term survival value – bacteria manage to flourish without it – but it is one of the most admirable qualities, especially when displayed by such young minds.” A lovely moment for the Balliol quartet, who duly celebrated with schooners of sherry and endearingly awkward bonding.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1836006

    The English seem to have best recognized the importance and power of humor as an easily testable proxy for identifying intelligence. Giving young women more say in the selection of their mate is likely highly eugenic. No other culture that I know of has a more subtle, sophisticated, i.e., highly developed/advanced sense of humor and humor culture than the English - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1836234

    Clarke defines humour in terms of pattern recognition–our ability to understand relationships and impose order on competing stimuli. “An ability to recognise patterns instantly and unconsciously has proved a fundamental weapon in the cognitive arsenal of human beings.”

    Recognising patterns enables us to quickly understand our environment and function effectively within it. Language, which is unique to humans, is based on patterns. And humour, conveniently enough, is based on language.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/conformity-and-cousin-marriage/#comment-1834845

    Joking aside, British really do have unique sense of humour

    Transatlantic survey of identical twins shows our taste for biting satire and withering one-liners is in the genes


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/joking-aside-british-really-do-have-unique-sense-of-humour-793491.html

    However, negative humour – teasing and ridicule, as well as more offensive, racist or sexist forms of humour, together with self-disparaging humour – appeared to be genetically linked only in Britain.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/conformity-and-cousin-marriage/#comment-1835042

    Some entertaining examples of Anglo-Saxons' sophisticated, self-disparaging humour and unique, creative talent :

    Village Idiots (Monty Python Sketch)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhDJxEPRDek

    Upper Class Twit of the Year - Monty Python's The Flying Circus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqObJtGrKaA

    Posh violinist Lettice Rowbotham gives the Judges something new | Britain's Got Talent 2014

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZZM3bgmXE4

    Lettice Rowbotham & Fenna Rhodes - The Queen's 90th Birthday

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAPfay2uO_g
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    @FKA Max
    They should have put their trust in astrology, like Benjamin Franklin… - https://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218

    Benjamin Franklin had a remarkable mind, perhaps the most powerful among the founding fathers. Reading his papers, and accounts of his life, quickly persuades one that his IQ was very high.

    I checked some websites on the Internet, and found estimates ranging from 160 to 175. Unfortunately, none of the sites adequately established the basis for their famous-people IQ estimates, or otherwise cited sources or described the methodologies used to calculate their numbers.
     
    - https://www.counter-currents.com/2012/08/benjamin-franklin-on-sex-marriage-and-family/

    USA Astrology Chart: Rectified

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_alSSOpYxAA

    Predict Donald Trump Win by Master Yu Gui Feng on Sept 22,2016 SkyNews

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f42MW0OGoo

    On 22/09/2016, Master Feng predicted Donald Trump Win and Hillary Clinton will lose US Presidential Election 2016 on Sky News.

    Are you a regular troll, or some type of program that weaves semi-related links into any comments thread?

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    How Social Darwinism Made Modern China

    Remarkable Upward Mobility But Relentless Downward Mobility

    However, the flip-side of possible peasant upward mobility was the far greater likelihood of downward mobility, which was enormous and probably represented the single most significant factor shaping the modern Chinese people. Each generation, a few who were lucky or able might rise, but a vast multitude always fell, and those families near the bottom simply disappeared from the world. Traditional rural China was a society faced with the reality of an enormous and inexorable downward mobility: for centuries, nearly all Chinese ended their lives much poorer than had their parents.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/#remarkable-upward-mobility-but-relentless-downward-mobility

    Prosperity, Not Upward Mobility, Is What Matters


    Most people outside of academia tend to judge their economic progress in absolute terms. By this standard, when household incomes are adjusted for family size along with the vast increase in social-welfare transfers (including the Earned Income Tax Credit, enacted in 1975), a substantial majority of couples in their 30s are living in families with incomes higher than those of their parents at that age. And most of those who are not better off than their parents were born to families in the upper income brackets; their household incomes stand to be supplemented by an ample inheritance. In this sense the American dream is alive and well: In a society of abundance, the tangible benefits of absolute mobility leave many citizens immune to the presumed sting of relative deprivation.
     
    - https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/01/prosperity-upward-mobility/511925/

    Too much competition/mobility is not good for innovation and quality control. A certain degree of exclusivity/privilege provides a creative/political "safe space" and allows one to think long-term, instead of only thinking in short-term strategies on how to out-compete one's rivals, etc., which then leads to higher quality products and outcomes.

    The innovations that are hatched in these exclusive, "immobile" spaces, i.e., universities, class systems, etc. then benefit the entire society.

    It is "trickle-down" science instead of "trickle-down" economics.

    Of course, this requires a certain noblesse oblige attitude from the elites, which I believe is still more prevalent in the British elite than in the U.S. elite.

    London Journal; Now It's Noblesse Oblige vs. the Trickle-Downers


    But some onlookers say the fight is actually a much larger contest in which the free-market principles and enterprise culture of modern-day Thatcherism are squaring off against the old-school noblesse oblige of Britain's patricians.
    [...]
    A spokesman for the Duke has said that the clause was deliberately inserted in the lease and that he wanted to keep it in. Peter Bradley, a Labor councilman, described the Duke's decision as an example of "Conservatism with a conscience."

    "I have a lot of respect for people like the Duke who have privileges but also feel responsibility," Mr. Bradley said. "It is paternalistic and outdated, but Thatcherites like Lady Porter believe markets should determine how people should live -- the trickle-down theory which doesn't work."
    [...]
    At the Grosvenor Housing Estate, where many apartments are riddled with damp and rot and bath tubs are housed in tiny kitchens, several residents backed the Duke's position. Hanging out her laundry, Christine Kelsey figured that the working class existed and that anyone who wasn't "bone-idle lazy" was a member. She said that the apartments should be reserved for anyone so described.
     

    - http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/31/world/london-journal-now-it-s-noblesse-oblige-vs-the-trickle-downers.html

    Dennis Skinner, the Labour MP for Bolsover, said: “There is still a working class. It’s exploited every day by people with fancy names such as entrepreneur.”[4] Joe Ashton, the Labour MP for Bassetlaw, said: “The Lady Porters will always need the working classes to clean up after them. It shows that nobs [slang: nobility] like the Duke know more about how the world ticks than the heiress to a Tesco fortune.

    Shirley Porter said: “In a week when the son of a trapeze artist [John Major] has been battling to become Prime Minister… the courts have ruled that we must remain wedded to an outdated class system.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_City_Council_v_Duke_of_Westminster#Reactions

    [MORE]

    Lady Porter feels no real loyalty and allegiance towards the native British working class because she is no part of the native British people, the Duke of Westminster is/was, and that is why she also wanted to get rid of “an outdated class system”. Native elites are a protective mechanism which prevents foreign elites, which usually do not have the natives’ best interest at heart, to take over their countries. The U.S. does not have as rigid of a class system as Britain and therefore it is more vulnerable to hostile takeovers by non-native elites/groups, be they Jewish, Communist/Chinese, Catholic, Muslim, etc.

    Dame Shirley Porter, Lady Porter

    Shirley Cohen was born in Upper Clapton, London, on 29 November 1930. Her father, Jacob Edward “Jack” Cohen, was the founder and owner of Tesco, and her mother was Sarah “Cissie” (née Fox), the daughter of a master tailor.[8][9] Cohen opened the first two Tesco stores in 1929. By 1939, he owned over 100 Tesco stores across the country.[8] The family lived at 7 Gunton Road, Hackney, a former council house in the East End of London that Jack had purchased from Hackney Council with the help of a £1,000 council loan.[10]
    [...]
    In 1960 Porter was involved in the exposure of 10 Golf Clubs in north London for discriminating against Jews.[17]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Porter

    Most of her charitable giving is focused on Israel, not the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Porter#Philanthropy

    In a review for The Guardian of Nothing Like a Dame, Porter’s biography by journalist Andrew Hosken, Nicholas Lezard described her in the following terms: “She remains, by a considerable margin, the most corrupt British public figure in living memory, with the possible exception of Robert Maxwell”[who was also ethnically Jewish and not part of the native British elite/people either].

    It is “trickle-down” science instead of “trickle-down” economics.

    Here some examples of “”trickle-down” science” in case it was unclear what I meant by this term:

    Big science’s trickle-down effect

    One of the main justifications for the billions we spend on big, state-of-the-art science projects like the Large Hadron Collider is not the discoveries they make (although those are obviously important in their own right), but the way in which these showcase projects drive technological innovation across a range of other applications.

    So the space race put a man on the moon, but it also generated dramatic advances in computing, engineering, materials science and navigation – advances that we all take for granted today.

    In the same way the last big atom smasher at Cern, the LEP, gave us MRI scanners and the World Wide Web.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-16945692

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    How Social Darwinism Made Modern China

    Remarkable Upward Mobility But Relentless Downward Mobility

    However, the flip-side of possible peasant upward mobility was the far greater likelihood of downward mobility, which was enormous and probably represented the single most significant factor shaping the modern Chinese people. Each generation, a few who were lucky or able might rise, but a vast multitude always fell, and those families near the bottom simply disappeared from the world. Traditional rural China was a society faced with the reality of an enormous and inexorable downward mobility: for centuries, nearly all Chinese ended their lives much poorer than had their parents.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/#remarkable-upward-mobility-but-relentless-downward-mobility

    Prosperity, Not Upward Mobility, Is What Matters


    Most people outside of academia tend to judge their economic progress in absolute terms. By this standard, when household incomes are adjusted for family size along with the vast increase in social-welfare transfers (including the Earned Income Tax Credit, enacted in 1975), a substantial majority of couples in their 30s are living in families with incomes higher than those of their parents at that age. And most of those who are not better off than their parents were born to families in the upper income brackets; their household incomes stand to be supplemented by an ample inheritance. In this sense the American dream is alive and well: In a society of abundance, the tangible benefits of absolute mobility leave many citizens immune to the presumed sting of relative deprivation.
     
    - https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/01/prosperity-upward-mobility/511925/

    Too much competition/mobility is not good for innovation and quality control. A certain degree of exclusivity/privilege provides a creative/political "safe space" and allows one to think long-term, instead of only thinking in short-term strategies on how to out-compete one's rivals, etc., which then leads to higher quality products and outcomes.

    The innovations that are hatched in these exclusive, "immobile" spaces, i.e., universities, class systems, etc. then benefit the entire society.

    It is "trickle-down" science instead of "trickle-down" economics.

    Of course, this requires a certain noblesse oblige attitude from the elites, which I believe is still more prevalent in the British elite than in the U.S. elite.

    London Journal; Now It's Noblesse Oblige vs. the Trickle-Downers


    But some onlookers say the fight is actually a much larger contest in which the free-market principles and enterprise culture of modern-day Thatcherism are squaring off against the old-school noblesse oblige of Britain's patricians.
    [...]
    A spokesman for the Duke has said that the clause was deliberately inserted in the lease and that he wanted to keep it in. Peter Bradley, a Labor councilman, described the Duke's decision as an example of "Conservatism with a conscience."

    "I have a lot of respect for people like the Duke who have privileges but also feel responsibility," Mr. Bradley said. "It is paternalistic and outdated, but Thatcherites like Lady Porter believe markets should determine how people should live -- the trickle-down theory which doesn't work."
    [...]
    At the Grosvenor Housing Estate, where many apartments are riddled with damp and rot and bath tubs are housed in tiny kitchens, several residents backed the Duke's position. Hanging out her laundry, Christine Kelsey figured that the working class existed and that anyone who wasn't "bone-idle lazy" was a member. She said that the apartments should be reserved for anyone so described.
     

    - http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/31/world/london-journal-now-it-s-noblesse-oblige-vs-the-trickle-downers.html

    A good man.

    Duke of Westminster in his own words – BBC News


    The Duke of Westminster, Gerald Cavendish Grosvenor, has died at the age of 64. In archive interviews with the BBC, he explains his attitude to his wealth and title, and his business.

    This idyll was rudely interrupted at the age of eight when he was sent to boarding school for which he was little prepared. He was schooled at Sunningdale and then Harrow. It served to teach him that if you are happy and placed in a sympathetic environment you will learn. Unfortunately, his time at school was not happy. Speaking with a “broad Irish” accent he did not settle easily and his unhappiness at school was in direct proportion to his lack of achievement in the classroom, where he found little of relevance, other than History and English. Ironically, and despite the unflattering remarks on his school reports, by the end of his life he had accumulated seven honorary degrees, which reflected the time and patronage he gave to education in the North West of England.

    http://www.grosvenorestate.com/duke-of-westminster.aspx

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  22. @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    "lovely way to pass the summer holiday," he whispered in her ear.

    "oh my God what a fag," she said.

    THE TYRANNY OF HOMOS = BLIGHTY!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HgTPs2_ut8

    Vitela is a variant type of FKA Max…

    Trump hate alcoholic losers…

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    Trump hate alcoholic losers…
     
    Actually Santoculto, Trump loved and respected one "alcoholic loser" so much that he has never touched/tried any alcohol, drugs, etc. in his life because of him, his brother Fred Trump Jr. :

    How Donald Trump's Brother Fred Jr. Shaped His Views on Addiction


    Trump has said in the past that Freddy's death had a "tremendous impact" on him. Perhaps most notably, he does not drink alcohol, do drugs, or smoke cigarettes, avoiding these vices because of his brother's alcoholism.

    "He had a profound impact on my life, because you never know where you're going to end up," Trump said. "I've known so many people that were so strong and so powerful [yet] they were unable to stop drinking."
    [...]
    A 2016 New York Times article details Freddy's decline into alcoholism, revealing that the eldest Trump's issues began in his mid-20s, and that by 1968, his drinking started to severely impact his life. "He got divorced, quit flying because he knew his drinking presented a danger and failed at commercial fishing in Florida. By the late 1970s, he was living back in his parents’ house in Jamaica Estates, working on one of his father’s maintenance crews," reads the article.

    It also suggests that seeing his brother's suffering inspired Trump's aggressive ambition, and that at the time, it was hard for Trump understand his brother's lack of drive. "Mr. Trump said he had learned by watching his brother how bad choices could drag down even those who seemed destined to rise."
     

    - http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a13098008/fred-trump-jr-addiction-history/

    Who Is Fred 'Freddy' Trump ? Donald Trump's Older Brother - Things You Need to Know

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjGSobWRavg

    Trump on brother Fred's alcoholism: "He had a very, very, very tough life"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHZRQbJSQcw

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  23. @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    yes!

    i am a roman catholic in one very important sense.

    so far as i cannot reconcile myself to the see of peter...

    i am ir-religious. but a believer all the same.

    And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    No buddy, care!1

    Look like a typical millieudennial talking about itself… it’s sad!!

    God’S loves you TOO!!!

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  24. FKA Max says: • Website
    @Santoculto
    Vitela is a variant type of FKA Max...



    Trump hate alcoholic losers...

    https://news2-images.vice.com//uploads/2017/05/trump-laughing-1024x678.jpg

    Trump hate alcoholic losers…

    Actually Santoculto, Trump loved and respected one “alcoholic loser” so much that he has never touched/tried any alcohol, drugs, etc. in his life because of him, his brother Fred Trump Jr. :

    How Donald Trump’s Brother Fred Jr. Shaped His Views on Addiction

    Trump has said in the past that Freddy’s death had a “tremendous impact” on him. Perhaps most notably, he does not drink alcohol, do drugs, or smoke cigarettes, avoiding these vices because of his brother’s alcoholism.

    “He had a profound impact on my life, because you never know where you’re going to end up,” Trump said. “I’ve known so many people that were so strong and so powerful [yet] they were unable to stop drinking.”
    [...]
    A 2016 New York Times article details Freddy’s decline into alcoholism, revealing that the eldest Trump’s issues began in his mid-20s, and that by 1968, his drinking started to severely impact his life. “He got divorced, quit flying because he knew his drinking presented a danger and failed at commercial fishing in Florida. By the late 1970s, he was living back in his parents’ house in Jamaica Estates, working on one of his father’s maintenance crews,” reads the article.

    It also suggests that seeing his brother’s suffering inspired Trump’s aggressive ambition, and that at the time, it was hard for Trump understand his brother’s lack of drive. “Mr. Trump said he had learned by watching his brother how bad choices could drag down even those who seemed destined to rise.”

    http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a13098008/fred-trump-jr-addiction-history/

    Who Is Fred ‘Freddy’ Trump ? Donald Trump’s Older Brother – Things You Need to Know


    Trump on brother Fred’s alcoholism: “He had a very, very, very tough life”

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    Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    , @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    and regarding his brother fred, trump showed he understands norms of reaction unlike any psychologist.

    fortunately my "alcoholism" is not yet at churchillian level.

    and at 6'1" 225 lbs of muscle i can drink a lot more than little winston.

    but i have not yet begun to drink!

    Your older brother, Fred, who died from heart failure brought on by acute alcoholism, had a more difficult time with him, didn't he?

    Take one environment and it will work completely differently on different children. Our family environment, the competitiveness, was a negative for Fred. It wasn't easy for him being cast in a very tough environment, and I think it played havoc on him. I was very close to him and it was very sad when he died... toughest situation I've had ...

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  25. i like the wet torries a lot better than the dry torries.

    thatcher is the worst thing to happen to the UK since passchendaele.

    pitt the younger and churchill were alcoholics and the best PMs blighty has had.

    the problems of winner take all competition and the indifference of meritocrats to the losers is better solved with high taxes than with a class system.

    the root of the british class system is its public schools. make them tuition free or shutter them and the class system goes gentle into that good night.

    and reintroduce the 11+.

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    i guess it's one "r"?

    it's a gay name for a party.
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  26. @FKA Max

    Trump hate alcoholic losers…
     
    Actually Santoculto, Trump loved and respected one "alcoholic loser" so much that he has never touched/tried any alcohol, drugs, etc. in his life because of him, his brother Fred Trump Jr. :

    How Donald Trump's Brother Fred Jr. Shaped His Views on Addiction


    Trump has said in the past that Freddy's death had a "tremendous impact" on him. Perhaps most notably, he does not drink alcohol, do drugs, or smoke cigarettes, avoiding these vices because of his brother's alcoholism.

    "He had a profound impact on my life, because you never know where you're going to end up," Trump said. "I've known so many people that were so strong and so powerful [yet] they were unable to stop drinking."
    [...]
    A 2016 New York Times article details Freddy's decline into alcoholism, revealing that the eldest Trump's issues began in his mid-20s, and that by 1968, his drinking started to severely impact his life. "He got divorced, quit flying because he knew his drinking presented a danger and failed at commercial fishing in Florida. By the late 1970s, he was living back in his parents’ house in Jamaica Estates, working on one of his father’s maintenance crews," reads the article.

    It also suggests that seeing his brother's suffering inspired Trump's aggressive ambition, and that at the time, it was hard for Trump understand his brother's lack of drive. "Mr. Trump said he had learned by watching his brother how bad choices could drag down even those who seemed destined to rise."
     

    - http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a13098008/fred-trump-jr-addiction-history/

    Who Is Fred 'Freddy' Trump ? Donald Trump's Older Brother - Things You Need to Know

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjGSobWRavg

    Trump on brother Fred's alcoholism: "He had a very, very, very tough life"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHZRQbJSQcw

    Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Trump hate alcoholic losers…
     
    Actually Santoculto, Trump loved and respected one "alcoholic loser" so much that he has never touched/tried any alcohol, drugs, etc. in his life because of him, his brother Fred Trump Jr. :

    How Donald Trump's Brother Fred Jr. Shaped His Views on Addiction


    Trump has said in the past that Freddy's death had a "tremendous impact" on him. Perhaps most notably, he does not drink alcohol, do drugs, or smoke cigarettes, avoiding these vices because of his brother's alcoholism.

    "He had a profound impact on my life, because you never know where you're going to end up," Trump said. "I've known so many people that were so strong and so powerful [yet] they were unable to stop drinking."
    [...]
    A 2016 New York Times article details Freddy's decline into alcoholism, revealing that the eldest Trump's issues began in his mid-20s, and that by 1968, his drinking started to severely impact his life. "He got divorced, quit flying because he knew his drinking presented a danger and failed at commercial fishing in Florida. By the late 1970s, he was living back in his parents’ house in Jamaica Estates, working on one of his father’s maintenance crews," reads the article.

    It also suggests that seeing his brother's suffering inspired Trump's aggressive ambition, and that at the time, it was hard for Trump understand his brother's lack of drive. "Mr. Trump said he had learned by watching his brother how bad choices could drag down even those who seemed destined to rise."
     

    - http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a13098008/fred-trump-jr-addiction-history/

    Who Is Fred 'Freddy' Trump ? Donald Trump's Older Brother - Things You Need to Know

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjGSobWRavg

    Trump on brother Fred's alcoholism: "He had a very, very, very tough life"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHZRQbJSQcw

    and regarding his brother fred, trump showed he understands norms of reaction unlike any psychologist.

    fortunately my “alcoholism” is not yet at churchillian level.

    and at 6’1″ 225 lbs of muscle i can drink a lot more than little winston.

    but i have not yet begun to drink!

    Your older brother, Fred, who died from heart failure brought on by acute alcoholism, had a more difficult time with him, didn’t he?

    Take one environment and it will work completely differently on different children. Our family environment, the competitiveness, was a negative for Fred. It wasn’t easy for him being cast in a very tough environment, and I think it played havoc on him. I was very close to him and it was very sad when he died… toughest situation I’ve had …

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    he is


    '''''''alcoholic'''''''
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  28. @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    i like the wet torries a lot better than the dry torries.

    thatcher is the worst thing to happen to the UK since passchendaele.

    pitt the younger and churchill were alcoholics and the best PMs blighty has had.

    the problems of winner take all competition and the indifference of meritocrats to the losers is better solved with high taxes than with a class system.

    the root of the british class system is its public schools. make them tuition free or shutter them and the class system goes gentle into that good night.

    and reintroduce the 11+.

    i guess it’s one “r”?

    it’s a gay name for a party.

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    MOST of your comments are useless, can you accept this**



    BUGabe think he is a exburg in ''lgbt studies''....

    He always THINK...

    he is a

    ''thinker''...
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  29. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max
    How Social Darwinism Made Modern China

    Remarkable Upward Mobility But Relentless Downward Mobility

    However, the flip-side of possible peasant upward mobility was the far greater likelihood of downward mobility, which was enormous and probably represented the single most significant factor shaping the modern Chinese people. Each generation, a few who were lucky or able might rise, but a vast multitude always fell, and those families near the bottom simply disappeared from the world. Traditional rural China was a society faced with the reality of an enormous and inexorable downward mobility: for centuries, nearly all Chinese ended their lives much poorer than had their parents.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/#remarkable-upward-mobility-but-relentless-downward-mobility

    Prosperity, Not Upward Mobility, Is What Matters


    Most people outside of academia tend to judge their economic progress in absolute terms. By this standard, when household incomes are adjusted for family size along with the vast increase in social-welfare transfers (including the Earned Income Tax Credit, enacted in 1975), a substantial majority of couples in their 30s are living in families with incomes higher than those of their parents at that age. And most of those who are not better off than their parents were born to families in the upper income brackets; their household incomes stand to be supplemented by an ample inheritance. In this sense the American dream is alive and well: In a society of abundance, the tangible benefits of absolute mobility leave many citizens immune to the presumed sting of relative deprivation.
     
    - https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/01/prosperity-upward-mobility/511925/

    Too much competition/mobility is not good for innovation and quality control. A certain degree of exclusivity/privilege provides a creative/political "safe space" and allows one to think long-term, instead of only thinking in short-term strategies on how to out-compete one's rivals, etc., which then leads to higher quality products and outcomes.

    The innovations that are hatched in these exclusive, "immobile" spaces, i.e., universities, class systems, etc. then benefit the entire society.

    It is "trickle-down" science instead of "trickle-down" economics.

    Of course, this requires a certain noblesse oblige attitude from the elites, which I believe is still more prevalent in the British elite than in the U.S. elite.

    London Journal; Now It's Noblesse Oblige vs. the Trickle-Downers


    But some onlookers say the fight is actually a much larger contest in which the free-market principles and enterprise culture of modern-day Thatcherism are squaring off against the old-school noblesse oblige of Britain's patricians.
    [...]
    A spokesman for the Duke has said that the clause was deliberately inserted in the lease and that he wanted to keep it in. Peter Bradley, a Labor councilman, described the Duke's decision as an example of "Conservatism with a conscience."

    "I have a lot of respect for people like the Duke who have privileges but also feel responsibility," Mr. Bradley said. "It is paternalistic and outdated, but Thatcherites like Lady Porter believe markets should determine how people should live -- the trickle-down theory which doesn't work."
    [...]
    At the Grosvenor Housing Estate, where many apartments are riddled with damp and rot and bath tubs are housed in tiny kitchens, several residents backed the Duke's position. Hanging out her laundry, Christine Kelsey figured that the working class existed and that anyone who wasn't "bone-idle lazy" was a member. She said that the apartments should be reserved for anyone so described.
     

    - http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/31/world/london-journal-now-it-s-noblesse-oblige-vs-the-trickle-downers.html

    Too much competition/mobility is not good for innovation and quality control. A certain degree of exclusivity/privilege provides a creative/political “safe space” and allows one to think long-term, instead of only thinking in short-term strategies on how to out-compete one’s rivals, etc., which then leads to higher quality products and outcomes.

    These “higher quality products” also include human beings.

    I argued before that extremely competitive/socially mobile/social Darwinian societies and environments actually select against higher intelligence:

    It seems that very harsh and “Social Darwinist” environments and cultures do not necessarily select for intelligence exclusively, or maybe not even predominately, but that they mostly select for risk taking, aggressiveness, ruthlessness, i.e., psychopathic and rather anti-social traits. http://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/#comment-1866207

    Human beings don’t come much cleverer or more inspiring than Professor Stephen Hawking. So it was a classy touch to leave the studio for only the second time in the show’s 55-year history and go over to Cambridge’s Gonville & Caius College, Cambridge. The world’s foremost scientist paid warm, witty tribute to Balliol team, saying: “It’s not clear whether intelligence has any long-term survival value – bacteria manage to flourish without it – but it is one of the most admirable qualities, especially when displayed by such young minds.” A lovely moment for the Balliol quartet, who duly celebrated with schooners of sherry and endearingly awkward bonding.

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1836006

    The English seem to have best recognized the importance and power of humor as an easily testable proxy for identifying intelligence. Giving young women more say in the selection of their mate is likely highly eugenic. No other culture that I know of has a more subtle, sophisticated, i.e., highly developed/advanced sense of humor and humor culture than the Englishhttp://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1836234

    Clarke defines humour in terms of pattern recognition–our ability to understand relationships and impose order on competing stimuli. “An ability to recognise patterns instantly and unconsciously has proved a fundamental weapon in the cognitive arsenal of human beings.”

    Recognising patterns enables us to quickly understand our environment and function effectively within it. Language, which is unique to humans, is based on patterns. And humour, conveniently enough, is based on language.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/conformity-and-cousin-marriage/#comment-1834845

    Joking aside, British really do have unique sense of humour

    Transatlantic survey of identical twins shows our taste for biting satire and withering one-liners is in the genes

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/joking-aside-british-really-do-have-unique-sense-of-humour-793491.html

    However, negative humour – teasing and ridicule, as well as more offensive, racist or sexist forms of humour, together with self-disparaging humour – appeared to be genetically linked only in Britain.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/conformity-and-cousin-marriage/#comment-1835042

    Some entertaining examples of Anglo-Saxons’ sophisticated, self-disparaging humour and unique, creative talent :

    Village Idiots (Monty Python Sketch)

    Upper Class Twit of the Year – Monty Python’s The Flying Circus

    Posh violinist Lettice Rowbotham gives the Judges something new | Britain’s Got Talent 2014

    Lettice Rowbotham & Fenna Rhodes – The Queen’s 90th Birthday

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAPfay2uO_g

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    you're arguments are just theoretical.

    just like trickle down.

    they sound like good hypotheses. so let's test them!

    the court of REALITY shows that the british class system is bad and trickle down doesn't work.

    where's the british empiricism?

    http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5668ba742340f8b1008b48fd-945-600/screen%20shot%202015-12-09%20at%206.32.53%20pm.png

    the class system is just another antinomy to be smashed by hegel. there is solidarity among the citizens of the best countries. none among brits.

    england invented tennis. but bjorn borg is the best tennis player ever.

    sad!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo

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    Too much competition/mobility is not good for innovation and quality control. A certain degree of exclusivity/privilege provides a creative/political “safe space” and allows one to think long-term, instead of only thinking in short-term strategies on how to out-compete one’s rivals, etc., which then leads to higher quality products and outcomes.
     
    These "higher quality products" also include human beings.

    I argued before that extremely competitive/socially mobile/social Darwinian societies and environments actually select against higher intelligence:

    It seems that very harsh and “Social Darwinist” environments and cultures do not necessarily select for intelligence exclusively, or maybe not even predominately, but that they mostly select for risk taking, aggressiveness, ruthlessness, i.e., psychopathic and rather anti-social traits. - http://www.unz.com/runz/how-social-darwinism-made-modern-china-248/#comment-1866207


    Human beings don’t come much cleverer or more inspiring than Professor Stephen Hawking. So it was a classy touch to leave the studio for only the second time in the show’s 55-year history and go over to Cambridge’s Gonville & Caius College, Cambridge. The world’s foremost scientist paid warm, witty tribute to Balliol team, saying: “It’s not clear whether intelligence has any long-term survival value – bacteria manage to flourish without it – but it is one of the most admirable qualities, especially when displayed by such young minds.” A lovely moment for the Balliol quartet, who duly celebrated with schooners of sherry and endearingly awkward bonding.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1836006

    The English seem to have best recognized the importance and power of humor as an easily testable proxy for identifying intelligence. Giving young women more say in the selection of their mate is likely highly eugenic. No other culture that I know of has a more subtle, sophisticated, i.e., highly developed/advanced sense of humor and humor culture than the English - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1836234

    Clarke defines humour in terms of pattern recognition–our ability to understand relationships and impose order on competing stimuli. “An ability to recognise patterns instantly and unconsciously has proved a fundamental weapon in the cognitive arsenal of human beings.”

    Recognising patterns enables us to quickly understand our environment and function effectively within it. Language, which is unique to humans, is based on patterns. And humour, conveniently enough, is based on language.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/conformity-and-cousin-marriage/#comment-1834845

    Joking aside, British really do have unique sense of humour

    Transatlantic survey of identical twins shows our taste for biting satire and withering one-liners is in the genes


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/joking-aside-british-really-do-have-unique-sense-of-humour-793491.html

    However, negative humour – teasing and ridicule, as well as more offensive, racist or sexist forms of humour, together with self-disparaging humour – appeared to be genetically linked only in Britain.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/isteve/conformity-and-cousin-marriage/#comment-1835042

    Some entertaining examples of Anglo-Saxons' sophisticated, self-disparaging humour and unique, creative talent :

    Village Idiots (Monty Python Sketch)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhDJxEPRDek

    Upper Class Twit of the Year - Monty Python's The Flying Circus

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqObJtGrKaA

    Posh violinist Lettice Rowbotham gives the Judges something new | Britain's Got Talent 2014

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZZM3bgmXE4

    Lettice Rowbotham & Fenna Rhodes - The Queen's 90th Birthday

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAPfay2uO_g

    you’re arguments are just theoretical.

    just like trickle down.

    they sound like good hypotheses. so let’s test them!

    the court of REALITY shows that the british class system is bad and trickle down doesn’t work.

    where’s the british empiricism?

    the class system is just another antinomy to be smashed by hegel. there is solidarity among the citizens of the best countries. none among brits.

    england invented tennis. but bjorn borg is the best tennis player ever.

    sad!

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    You just disproved your own first argument to me, and proved my comment from above:

    blighty is the most rigidly stratified country in the OECD…even more so than ‘mer’ca.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/alma-mater-2018/#comment-2102234

    To which I replied:

    The UK is not doing great, but not exactly terrible either in income inequality rankings; better than the U.S. actually.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/alma-mater-2018/#comment-2102386

    I never said the U.K. and its system is perfect, and that there is not room for improvement, but I believe the problem is not the rigid British class system, since the U.S. doesn't have one of those, but rather Wall Street's and the City of London's push for greater and greater Financialization .

    Both the U.S. and the U.K. economies are highly "financialized", and that is the real problem.

    I commented extensively on this topic on another of Mr. Thompson's articles; and who benefits from it, etc.:

    The Gini Index score of the United States [and of the U.K.] has been steadily going up in tandem with the intensification of Financialization
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-worlds-iq-86/#comment-2073341

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Gini_since_WWII.svg/720px-Gini_since_WWII.svg.png

    Our Economy is Optimized for Financialization

    http://www.unz.com/jpetras/china-and-the-us-comparing-leadership-selection/#comment-2082825

    http://www.oftwominds.com/photos2015/wages-GDP9-15.png

    http://www.oftwominds.com/photos2017/income-percentage7-17a.png

    How come the U.K.'s Gini Index score was much lower/better before the 1980s and Thatcherism and Tony Blair's House of Lords reforms, when British society and politics were still much more based on a hereditary class system compared to today?

    Why have a House of Lords if there’s not a single lord left in it?
    The last thing we need is a second chamber filled with yet more professional politicos.

    It is obvious that, if one were starting from scratch today, one would not create the present House of Lords. But this is true, too, of the Monarchy, and even, when one thinks about it, of the House of Commons. We are not starting from scratch, luckily. The most important thing about successful institutions is that they exist. This is what the political theorists call “prescription”. As Enoch Powell put it, when he combined with Michael Foot in 1969 to see off the then plan for Lords reform, normal people are better than highly educated ones at recognising the power of the sentence: “It has long been so, and it works.”

    True, the modern House of Lords is not a thing of beauty. The previous attempt to make it more “21st century” made it worse. By getting rid of all but 92 hereditary peers and replacing them with hundreds of political appointees (some of whom, it turned out, had paid the Labour Party for the privilege), Tony Blair weakened the independence and fair-mindedness of the place. His setting up of a goody-goody appointments commission failed to prevent corruption on an almost Lloyd George scale. The post-Blair House of Lords is physically overcrowded and too partisan, almost an ermine slum.
     

    - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8998391/Why-have-a-House-of-Lords-if-theres-not-a-single-lord-left-in-it.html

    These are the results of a British survey of the most and least psychopathic professions/professionals; CEOs and lawyers take the top spots for most psychopathic professions/professionals. No wonder the politics and politicians in the U.S. are so corrupt, around 20% are business people and a staggering 50% are lawyers
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jpetras/china-and-the-us-comparing-leadership-selection/#comment-2077270

    In my opinion, lawyers are the main “technicians/managers” and the most skillful “optimizers” of Financialization
    [...]
    I tried to find religious demographics for the U.S. lawyer population, but was not able to. It would be interesting to see how many of them are Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, etc.

    This is all I could find:

    And of course, it is a necessary consequence of the great over-representation of Jews in our trade that all other ethnic groups are under-represented. Because a group that is only 2% of the population occupies something like 25% or more of the top law partnerships, that means that white protestants are under-represented by close to 25% as against their share of the population, and white Catholics (such as yours truly) are under-represented by even more. Asians? According to Wikipedia they are now 4.8% of the population, and according to The American Lawyer they are about 6% of big law firm associates and 1.6% of partners. Is this discrimination, reverse discrimination, or just what happens as people seek work that suits them?
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/boost-your-iq/#comment-2083046
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  31. FKA Max says: • Website
    @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    you're arguments are just theoretical.

    just like trickle down.

    they sound like good hypotheses. so let's test them!

    the court of REALITY shows that the british class system is bad and trickle down doesn't work.

    where's the british empiricism?

    http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5668ba742340f8b1008b48fd-945-600/screen%20shot%202015-12-09%20at%206.32.53%20pm.png

    the class system is just another antinomy to be smashed by hegel. there is solidarity among the citizens of the best countries. none among brits.

    england invented tennis. but bjorn borg is the best tennis player ever.

    sad!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_Yf4zz-yo

    You just disproved your own first argument to me, and proved my comment from above:

    blighty is the most rigidly stratified country in the OECD…even more so than ‘mer’ca.

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/alma-mater-2018/#comment-2102234

    To which I replied:

    The UK is not doing great, but not exactly terrible either in income inequality rankings; better than the U.S. actually.

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/alma-mater-2018/#comment-2102386

    I never said the U.K. and its system is perfect, and that there is not room for improvement, but I believe the problem is not the rigid British class system, since the U.S. doesn’t have one of those, but rather Wall Street‘s and the City of London‘s push for greater and greater Financialization .

    Both the U.S. and the U.K. economies are highly “financialized”, and that is the real problem.

    I commented extensively on this topic on another of Mr. Thompson’s articles; and who benefits from it, etc.:

    The Gini Index score of the United States [and of the U.K.] has been steadily going up in tandem with the intensification of Financialization
    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-worlds-iq-86/#comment-2073341

    Our Economy is Optimized for Financialization

    http://www.unz.com/jpetras/china-and-the-us-comparing-leadership-selection/#comment-2082825



    How come the U.K.’s Gini Index score was much lower/better before the 1980s and Thatcherism and Tony Blair’s House of Lords reforms, when British society and politics were still much more based on a hereditary class system compared to today?

    Why have a House of Lords if there’s not a single lord left in it?
    The last thing we need is a second chamber filled with yet more professional politicos.

    It is obvious that, if one were starting from scratch today, one would not create the present House of Lords. But this is true, too, of the Monarchy, and even, when one thinks about it, of the House of Commons. We are not starting from scratch, luckily. The most important thing about successful institutions is that they exist. This is what the political theorists call “prescription”. As Enoch Powell put it, when he combined with Michael Foot in 1969 to see off the then plan for Lords reform, normal people are better than highly educated ones at recognising the power of the sentence: “It has long been so, and it works.”

    True, the modern House of Lords is not a thing of beauty. The previous attempt to make it more “21st century” made it worse. By getting rid of all but 92 hereditary peers and replacing them with hundreds of political appointees (some of whom, it turned out, had paid the Labour Party for the privilege), Tony Blair weakened the independence and fair-mindedness of the place. His setting up of a goody-goody appointments commission failed to prevent corruption on an almost Lloyd George scale. The post-Blair House of Lords is physically overcrowded and too partisan, almost an ermine slum.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8998391/Why-have-a-House-of-Lords-if-theres-not-a-single-lord-left-in-it.html

    These are the results of a British survey of the most and least psychopathic professions/professionals; CEOs and lawyers take the top spots for most psychopathic professions/professionals. No wonder the politics and politicians in the U.S. are so corrupt, around 20% are business people and a staggering 50% are lawyers

    http://www.unz.com/jpetras/china-and-the-us-comparing-leadership-selection/#comment-2077270

    In my opinion, lawyers are the main “technicians/managers” and the most skillful “optimizers” of Financialization
    [...]
    I tried to find religious demographics for the U.S. lawyer population, but was not able to. It would be interesting to see how many of them are Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, etc.

    This is all I could find:

    And of course, it is a necessary consequence of the great over-representation of Jews in our trade that all other ethnic groups are under-represented. Because a group that is only 2% of the population occupies something like 25% or more of the top law partnerships, that means that white protestants are under-represented by close to 25% as against their share of the population, and white Catholics (such as yours truly) are under-represented by even more. Asians? According to Wikipedia they are now 4.8% of the population, and according to The American Lawyer they are about 6% of big law firm associates and 1.6% of partners. Is this discrimination, reverse discrimination, or just what happens as people seek work that suits them?

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/boost-your-iq/#comment-2083046

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    hereditary peers generally take a more long term perspective on legislative matters, unlike Members of Parliament who are statistically more likely to vote in favour of populist policies for electoral purposes.[69]
     

    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_of_the_House_of_Lords#Hereditary

    Free Life Commentary,
    an independent journal of comment published on the Internet
    Issue Number 24
    25th November 1998

    Why the Hereditary Peers Should Stay in the House of Lords
    by Sean Gabb


    For the most part, reform of the Lords is something proposed by the despotic and assented to by the ignorant.
    [...]
    The Thatcher and Major Governments suffered continual reverses in the Lords. I remember in 1994 looking at the Criminal Justice and Public Order Bill before and after its passage through the Lords. It went in as what can only be described as an enabling act for a police state. It came out as something that was just very bad. Clause after clause had been either deleted or softened by the Lords.
    [...]
    Occasionally, mediocrity is tempered by gross personal corruption. Nor is it coincidence that so many of the elected ones have embarrassing sexual habits: blackmail is the quietest form of control. On the whole, people of intelligence and integrity do not nowadays stand for election in England.

    The Lords have avoided this degrading fate because they are not "democratically" accountable. A Earl or a Baron can stand up and speak his mind and vote as conscience dictates. There is no pressure that can be placed on him—no orders sent out to a constituency association, no newspaper campaigns to discredit him before the electors. He owes his position to accident of birth and nothing else. This may sometimes throw up legislators who are mentally subnormal or even insane, but it will also throw up men of incorruptible honour.

    And that is why the hereditary Peers are being expelled from the Lords. It is their independence, not their birth, that makes them so objectionable. Arguments about democracy are an excuse, not a motive. Tony Blair is strutting about like some reincarnation of John Lilburne. The Lords must be reformed, he says, so that the will of the people may prevail. This is rich coming from a man who has personally excluded Labour Party candidates because they do not agree with him, who is looking for some device to stop Ken Livingstone from standing to be Mayor of London, and who seems very happy to share power with an absolutely unelected and unaccountable European Commission in Brussels.
     

    - https://archive.is/20120909153318/http://www.seangabb.co.uk/flcomm/flc024.htm
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  32. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max
    You just disproved your own first argument to me, and proved my comment from above:

    blighty is the most rigidly stratified country in the OECD…even more so than ‘mer’ca.
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/alma-mater-2018/#comment-2102234

    To which I replied:

    The UK is not doing great, but not exactly terrible either in income inequality rankings; better than the U.S. actually.
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/alma-mater-2018/#comment-2102386

    I never said the U.K. and its system is perfect, and that there is not room for improvement, but I believe the problem is not the rigid British class system, since the U.S. doesn't have one of those, but rather Wall Street's and the City of London's push for greater and greater Financialization .

    Both the U.S. and the U.K. economies are highly "financialized", and that is the real problem.

    I commented extensively on this topic on another of Mr. Thompson's articles; and who benefits from it, etc.:

    The Gini Index score of the United States [and of the U.K.] has been steadily going up in tandem with the intensification of Financialization
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/the-worlds-iq-86/#comment-2073341

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Gini_since_WWII.svg/720px-Gini_since_WWII.svg.png

    Our Economy is Optimized for Financialization

    http://www.unz.com/jpetras/china-and-the-us-comparing-leadership-selection/#comment-2082825

    http://www.oftwominds.com/photos2015/wages-GDP9-15.png

    http://www.oftwominds.com/photos2017/income-percentage7-17a.png

    How come the U.K.'s Gini Index score was much lower/better before the 1980s and Thatcherism and Tony Blair's House of Lords reforms, when British society and politics were still much more based on a hereditary class system compared to today?

    Why have a House of Lords if there’s not a single lord left in it?
    The last thing we need is a second chamber filled with yet more professional politicos.

    It is obvious that, if one were starting from scratch today, one would not create the present House of Lords. But this is true, too, of the Monarchy, and even, when one thinks about it, of the House of Commons. We are not starting from scratch, luckily. The most important thing about successful institutions is that they exist. This is what the political theorists call “prescription”. As Enoch Powell put it, when he combined with Michael Foot in 1969 to see off the then plan for Lords reform, normal people are better than highly educated ones at recognising the power of the sentence: “It has long been so, and it works.”

    True, the modern House of Lords is not a thing of beauty. The previous attempt to make it more “21st century” made it worse. By getting rid of all but 92 hereditary peers and replacing them with hundreds of political appointees (some of whom, it turned out, had paid the Labour Party for the privilege), Tony Blair weakened the independence and fair-mindedness of the place. His setting up of a goody-goody appointments commission failed to prevent corruption on an almost Lloyd George scale. The post-Blair House of Lords is physically overcrowded and too partisan, almost an ermine slum.
     

    - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8998391/Why-have-a-House-of-Lords-if-theres-not-a-single-lord-left-in-it.html

    These are the results of a British survey of the most and least psychopathic professions/professionals; CEOs and lawyers take the top spots for most psychopathic professions/professionals. No wonder the politics and politicians in the U.S. are so corrupt, around 20% are business people and a staggering 50% are lawyers
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jpetras/china-and-the-us-comparing-leadership-selection/#comment-2077270

    In my opinion, lawyers are the main “technicians/managers” and the most skillful “optimizers” of Financialization
    [...]
    I tried to find religious demographics for the U.S. lawyer population, but was not able to. It would be interesting to see how many of them are Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, etc.

    This is all I could find:

    And of course, it is a necessary consequence of the great over-representation of Jews in our trade that all other ethnic groups are under-represented. Because a group that is only 2% of the population occupies something like 25% or more of the top law partnerships, that means that white protestants are under-represented by close to 25% as against their share of the population, and white Catholics (such as yours truly) are under-represented by even more. Asians? According to Wikipedia they are now 4.8% of the population, and according to The American Lawyer they are about 6% of big law firm associates and 1.6% of partners. Is this discrimination, reverse discrimination, or just what happens as people seek work that suits them?
     

    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/boost-your-iq/#comment-2083046

    hereditary peers generally take a more long term perspective on legislative matters, unlike Members of Parliament who are statistically more likely to vote in favour of populist policies for electoral purposes.[69]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_of_the_House_of_Lords#Hereditary

    Free Life Commentary,
    an independent journal of comment published on the Internet
    Issue Number 24
    25th November 1998

    Why the Hereditary Peers Should Stay in the House of Lords
    by Sean Gabb

    For the most part, reform of the Lords is something proposed by the despotic and assented to by the ignorant.
    [...]
    The Thatcher and Major Governments suffered continual reverses in the Lords. I remember in 1994 looking at the Criminal Justice and Public Order Bill before and after its passage through the Lords. It went in as what can only be described as an enabling act for a police state. It came out as something that was just very bad. Clause after clause had been either deleted or softened by the Lords.
    [...]
    Occasionally, mediocrity is tempered by gross personal corruption. Nor is it coincidence that so many of the elected ones have embarrassing sexual habits: blackmail is the quietest form of control. On the whole, people of intelligence and integrity do not nowadays stand for election in England.

    The Lords have avoided this degrading fate because they are not “democratically” accountable. A Earl or a Baron can stand up and speak his mind and vote as conscience dictates. There is no pressure that can be placed on him—no orders sent out to a constituency association, no newspaper campaigns to discredit him before the electors. He owes his position to accident of birth and nothing else. This may sometimes throw up legislators who are mentally subnormal or even insane, but it will also throw up men of incorruptible honour.

    And that is why the hereditary Peers are being expelled from the Lords. It is their independence, not their birth, that makes them so objectionable. Arguments about democracy are an excuse, not a motive. Tony Blair is strutting about like some reincarnation of John Lilburne. The Lords must be reformed, he says, so that the will of the people may prevail. This is rich coming from a man who has personally excluded Labour Party candidates because they do not agree with him, who is looking for some device to stop Ken Livingstone from standing to be Mayor of London, and who seems very happy to share power with an absolutely unelected and unaccountable European Commission in Brussels.

    https://archive.is/20120909153318/http://www.seangabb.co.uk/flcomm/flc024.htm

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    Two very good speeches by Sean Gabb on the topic:

    Sean Gabb - Margaret Thatcher - Hero or Villain? (PFS 2016)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v4uzETyBN8

    Sean Gabb "The Case for the Landed Aristocracy" (Libertarian Alliance)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzjmTrVS61Y

    Published on Feb 15, 2014
    On Monday 10th February, Sean Gabb Gave a talk on "The Case for the Landed Aristocracy to the Libertarian Alliance in London.
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  33. @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    and regarding his brother fred, trump showed he understands norms of reaction unlike any psychologist.

    fortunately my "alcoholism" is not yet at churchillian level.

    and at 6'1" 225 lbs of muscle i can drink a lot more than little winston.

    but i have not yet begun to drink!

    Your older brother, Fred, who died from heart failure brought on by acute alcoholism, had a more difficult time with him, didn't he?

    Take one environment and it will work completely differently on different children. Our family environment, the competitiveness, was a negative for Fred. It wasn't easy for him being cast in a very tough environment, and I think it played havoc on him. I was very close to him and it was very sad when he died... toughest situation I've had ...

    he is

    ”””’alcoholic”””’

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  34. @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    i guess it's one "r"?

    it's a gay name for a party.

    MOST of your comments are useless, can you accept this**

    BUGabe think he is a exburg in ”lgbt studies”….

    He always THINK…

    he is a

    ”thinker”…

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    "MOST of your comments are useless"

    This is gold coming from you. Your comments are all word salad rants. No structure at all to your writing.
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  35. @Santoculto
    MOST of your comments are useless, can you accept this**



    BUGabe think he is a exburg in ''lgbt studies''....

    He always THINK...

    he is a

    ''thinker''...

    “MOST of your comments are useless”

    This is gold coming from you. Your comments are all word salad rants. No structure at all to your writing.

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  36. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max

    hereditary peers generally take a more long term perspective on legislative matters, unlike Members of Parliament who are statistically more likely to vote in favour of populist policies for electoral purposes.[69]
     

    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_of_the_House_of_Lords#Hereditary

    Free Life Commentary,
    an independent journal of comment published on the Internet
    Issue Number 24
    25th November 1998

    Why the Hereditary Peers Should Stay in the House of Lords
    by Sean Gabb


    For the most part, reform of the Lords is something proposed by the despotic and assented to by the ignorant.
    [...]
    The Thatcher and Major Governments suffered continual reverses in the Lords. I remember in 1994 looking at the Criminal Justice and Public Order Bill before and after its passage through the Lords. It went in as what can only be described as an enabling act for a police state. It came out as something that was just very bad. Clause after clause had been either deleted or softened by the Lords.
    [...]
    Occasionally, mediocrity is tempered by gross personal corruption. Nor is it coincidence that so many of the elected ones have embarrassing sexual habits: blackmail is the quietest form of control. On the whole, people of intelligence and integrity do not nowadays stand for election in England.

    The Lords have avoided this degrading fate because they are not "democratically" accountable. A Earl or a Baron can stand up and speak his mind and vote as conscience dictates. There is no pressure that can be placed on him—no orders sent out to a constituency association, no newspaper campaigns to discredit him before the electors. He owes his position to accident of birth and nothing else. This may sometimes throw up legislators who are mentally subnormal or even insane, but it will also throw up men of incorruptible honour.

    And that is why the hereditary Peers are being expelled from the Lords. It is their independence, not their birth, that makes them so objectionable. Arguments about democracy are an excuse, not a motive. Tony Blair is strutting about like some reincarnation of John Lilburne. The Lords must be reformed, he says, so that the will of the people may prevail. This is rich coming from a man who has personally excluded Labour Party candidates because they do not agree with him, who is looking for some device to stop Ken Livingstone from standing to be Mayor of London, and who seems very happy to share power with an absolutely unelected and unaccountable European Commission in Brussels.
     

    - https://archive.is/20120909153318/http://www.seangabb.co.uk/flcomm/flc024.htm

    Two very good speeches by Sean Gabb on the topic:

    Sean Gabb – Margaret Thatcher – Hero or Villain? (PFS 2016)

    Sean Gabb “The Case for the Landed Aristocracy” (Libertarian Alliance)

    Published on Feb 15, 2014
    On Monday 10th February, Sean Gabb Gave a talk on “The Case for the Landed Aristocracy to the Libertarian Alliance in London.

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    Very interesting study:


    What is the True Rate of Social Mobility? Surnames and Social Mobility in England, 1800-2012

    http://faculty.econ.ucdavis.edu/faculty/gclark/papers/Clark%20Cummins%201800-2011%20Revision2.pdf

    Conclusions

    The modest effects of major institutional changes on social mobility implies that
    the important determination of persistence is transmission within families – either
    through genes or family environments – and that there may be modest prospect of increasing mobility through state action.
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  37. FKA Max says: • Website
    @FKA Max
    Two very good speeches by Sean Gabb on the topic:

    Sean Gabb - Margaret Thatcher - Hero or Villain? (PFS 2016)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v4uzETyBN8

    Sean Gabb "The Case for the Landed Aristocracy" (Libertarian Alliance)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzjmTrVS61Y

    Published on Feb 15, 2014
    On Monday 10th February, Sean Gabb Gave a talk on "The Case for the Landed Aristocracy to the Libertarian Alliance in London.

    Very interesting study:

    What is the True Rate of Social Mobility? Surnames and Social Mobility in England, 1800-2012

    http://faculty.econ.ucdavis.edu/faculty/gclark/papers/Clark%20Cummins%201800-2011%20Revision2.pdf

    Conclusions

    The modest effects of major institutional changes on social mobility implies that
    the important determination of persistence is transmission within families – either
    through genes or family environments – and that there may be modest prospect of increasing mobility through state action.

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  38. Bill Jones says: • Website
    @FKA Max
    They should have put their trust in astrology, like Benjamin Franklin… - https://www.unz.com/isteve/forecasting-especially-the-future-is-tough/#comment-1648218

    Benjamin Franklin had a remarkable mind, perhaps the most powerful among the founding fathers. Reading his papers, and accounts of his life, quickly persuades one that his IQ was very high.

    I checked some websites on the Internet, and found estimates ranging from 160 to 175. Unfortunately, none of the sites adequately established the basis for their famous-people IQ estimates, or otherwise cited sources or described the methodologies used to calculate their numbers.
     
    - https://www.counter-currents.com/2012/08/benjamin-franklin-on-sex-marriage-and-family/

    USA Astrology Chart: Rectified

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_alSSOpYxAA

    Predict Donald Trump Win by Master Yu Gui Feng on Sept 22,2016 SkyNews

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f42MW0OGoo

    On 22/09/2016, Master Feng predicted Donald Trump Win and Hillary Clinton will lose US Presidential Election 2016 on Sky News.

    An IQ of 160 plus is not bad but nothing to write home about.
    It’s what? 4sds up from the average pleb?

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