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Introduction

For the greater part of a decade the US, the UK and the EU have been carrying out a campaign to undermine and overthrow the Russia government and in particular to oust President Putin. Fundamental issues are at stake including the real possibility of a nuclear war.

The most recent western propaganda campaign and one of the most virulent is the charge launched by the UK regime of Prime Minister Theresa May. The Brits have claimed that Russian secret agents conspired to poison a former Russian double-agent and his daughter in England , threatening the sovereignty and safety of the British people. No evidence has ever been presented. Instead the UK expelled Russian diplomats and demands harsher sanctions, to increase tensions. The UK and its US and EU patrons are moving toward a break in relations and a military build-up.

A number of fundamental questions arise regarding the origins and growing intensity of this anti-Russian animus.

Why do the Western regimes now feel Russia is a greater threat then in the past? Do they believe Russia is more vulnerable to Western threats or attacks? Why do the Western military leaders seek to undermine Russia’s defenses? Do the US economic elites believe it is possible to provoke an economic crisis and the demise of President Putin’s government? What is the strategic goal of Western policymakers? Why has the UK regime taken the lead in the anti-Russian crusade via the fake toxin accusations at this time?

This paper is directed at providing key elements to address these questions.

The Historical Context for Western Aggression

Several fundamental historical factors dating back to the 1990’s account for the current surge in Western hostility to Russia.

First and foremost, during the 1990’s the US degraded Russia, reducing it to a vassal state, and imposing itself as a unipolar state.

Secondly, Western elites pillaged the Russian economy, seizing and laundering hundreds of billions of dollars. Wall Street and City of London banks and overseas tax havens were the main beneficiaries

Thirdly, the US seized and took control of the Russian electoral process, and secured the fraudulent “election” of Yeltsin.

Fourthly, the West degraded Russia’s military and scientific institutions and advanced their armed forces to Russia’s borders.

Fifthly, the West insured that Russia was unable to support its allies and independent governments throughout Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America. Russia was unable to aid its allies in the Ukraine, Cuba, North Korea, Libya etc.

With the collapse of the Yeltsin regime and the election of President Putin, Russia regained its sovereignty, its economy recovered, its armed forces and scientific institutes were rebuilt and strengthened. Poverty was sharply reduced and Western backed gangster capitalists were constrained, jailed or fled mostly to the UK and the US.

Russia’s historic recovery under President Putin and its gradual international influence shattered US pretense to rule over unipolar world. Russia’s recovery and control of its economic resources lessened US dominance, especially of its oil and gas fields.

As Russia consolidated its sovereignty and advanced economically, socially, politically and militarily, the West increased its hostility in an effort to roll-back Russia to the Dark Ages of the 1990’s.

The US launched numerous coups and military intervention and fraudulent elections to surround and isolate Russia . The Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen and Russian allies in Central Asia were targeted. NATO military bases proliferated.

Russia’s economy was targeted: sanctions were directed at its imports and exports. President Putin was subject to a virulent Western media propaganda campaign. US NGO’s funded opposition parties and politicians.

The US-EU rollback campaign failed.

The encirclement campaign failed.

The Ukraine fragmented – Russia allies took control of the East; Crimea voted for unification with Russia. Syria joined with Russia to defeat armed US vassals. Russia turned to China’s multi-lateral trade, transport and financial networks.

As the entire US unipolar fantasy dissolved it provoked deep resentment, animosity and a systematic counter-attack. The US’s costly and failed war on terror became a dress rehearsal for the economic and ideological war against the Kremlin ..Russia’s historical recovery and defeat of Western rollback intensified the ideological and economic war.

The UK poison plot was concocted to heighten economic tensions and prepare the western public for heightened military confrontations.

Russia is not a threat to the West: it is recovering its sovereignty in order to further a multi-polar world. President Putin is not an “aggressor” but he refuses to allow Russia to return to vassalage.

President Putin is immensely popular in Russia and is hated by the US precisely because he is the opposite of Yeltsin – he has created a flourishing economy; he resists sanctions and defends Russia’s borders and allies.

Conclusion

In a summary response to the opening questions.

1) The Western regimes recognize that Russia is a threat to their global dominance; they know that Russia is no threat to invade the EU, North America or their vassals.

2) Western regimes believe they can topple Russia via economic warfare including sanctions. In fact Russia has become more self-reliant and has diversified its trading partners, especially China, and even including Saudi Arabia and other Western allies.

The Western propaganda campaign has failed to turn Russian voters against Putin. In the March 19, 2018 Presidential election voter participation increased to 67%. Vladimir Putin secured a record 77% majority. President Putin is politically stronger than ever.

Russia’s display of advanced nuclear and other advanced weaponry has had a major deterrent effect especially among US military leaders, making it clear that Russia is not vulnerable to attack.

The UK has attempted to unify and gain importance with the EU and the US via the launch of its anti-Russia toxic conspiracy. Prime Minister May has failed. Brexit will force the UK to break with the EU.

President Trump will not replace the EU as a substitute trading partner. While the EU and Washington may back the UK crusade against Russia they will pursue their own trade agenda; which do not include the UK.

ORDER IT NOW

In a word, the UK, the EU and the US are ganging-up on Russia, for diverse historic and contemporary reasons. The UK exploitation of the anti-Russian conspiracy is a temporary ploy to join the gang but will not change its inevitable global decline and the break-up of the UK.

Russia will remain a global power. It will continue under the leadership of President Putin .The Western powers will divide and bugger their neighbors – and decide it is their better judgment to accept and work within a multi-polar world.

 
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  1. Excellent summary.

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    • Replies: @Carlton Meyer
    The great Jimmy Dore provides an even better summary, on video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu_78K4XbjA
    , @Joe Wong
    The world needs Russian to keep the psychopathic Anglo Five Eyes warmongers in check.
    , @Dacian
    With all due respect for your many interesting postings, I think, this narrative needs a major correction. The best summary is in the preface of a book “The New CommonWealth”:

    “For anyone who has followed closely the events in Eastern Europe for the past thirty years, the systematic absence of one possible scenario from the mainstream media dialog is baffling — namely that today's Russian troubles may be only a shield behind which a more powerful regeneration is in progress. The New York Times Magazine, August 10, 1997, brings up one of many questions to which modern history awaits a convincing answer. On the occasion of former Defense Secretary McNamara's revisiting Vietnam, it reminds us of one such unelucidated inconsistency: "If the reason [for the war in Vietnam] was to fight communism, why did the U.S. not help China in 1949, or why did the U.S. not help the Batista regime in Cuba in 1959?"
    There are indeed significant and puzzling inconsistencies in the story of the Soviet Union's "collapse." Consider the artfulness, bordering on the Machiavellian, and the lengthy effort that went into its demise and one has sufficient grounds for a different tale. The process of "collapse," basically from 1983 on, came about as the country's establishment applied blow after blow to the highly coherent and resilient Soviet system. The most intriguing aspect of this incredible series of events is that behind it was the political will of the elite — the Soviet elite who had decided that the Soviet system must be dismembered, while the so-called disgruntled masses played a minor role. That amounts, but only on a superficial look, to the impression that the elite itself might have voluntarily decided to dismantle and demobilize its own lines of defense and submit to a condition of servitude to the rest of the world. On the contrary, I am not only in agreement with Weir and Kotz and others who ascribe perestroika and the collapse of the Soviet system to the Soviet elite, but I suggest that today's troubles are not a result of a failed perestroika but are only Phase II of perestroika. From socialism to capitalism and back to a superior form of socialism is how the old Marxist dialecticians would phrase it. By compromising both models— the old communist orthodoxy as well as the newer aspirant, casino capitalism—the power establishment makes it possible to bring the country safely back to socialist capitalism.

    But if one accepts this hypothesis, then it becomes the premise of an unsettling line of reasoning. The elite of the second most powerful corporation in the world, the Soviet Union, must have had a self-serving reason to take such risks and must as well have had the opportunity to reformulate its modus operandi.

    If this is so, the further implication would be that the "collapse" was possible not in reaction to a stronger U.S. but precisely because the other superpower also showed every sign of weakness and crisis so that it could not mount any credible offensive, economically or militarily, while the Soviet Union went through its own version of the Great Depression en route toward economic restructuring and political modernization.

    The most plausible interpretation of the series of international issues of the 1980s (the new economic assertiveness of Western Europe and Japan, the war in Afghanistan, the Iran-Iraq craze, the Solidarity movement in Poland, the world debt crisis, etc.) is that they were already setting the framework for a future covenant — "the new world order" — between the former superpowers, to their mutual advantage. That presupposes an early, even pre-1980, agreed armistice and rethinking of the exhausting confrontation.

    If Russia was in a position to let down its guard to the extent that we are witnessing today, it was only because it found itself not in a weak position but in the strongest military-strategic position in its history, free from imminent outside threat as enshrined at Helsinki in the 1975 Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe. Given its control of the world's richest reserves of oil, gas, nuclear material, and raw materials, together with its educated professionals, an unmatched nuclear arsenal*, space technology leadership, etc. — all Russia needed was to repackage its system as a benevolent system, to make it into a soothing and attractive social and economic model, to launch a successful public relations scheme. To succeed at that would be worth the costs and the risks!

    From such a strategic viewpoint one may infer that the dismantling of the Soviet Union was only the first step of the former Soviet elite's new policy of Soviet "market" outreach to the West as well as to the South.

    In the west, Western Europe today seems at its zenith, however, its fate may well have been determined by (1) its military emasculation (by the Treaty of European Conventional Arms Reduction, the 1988 Soviet-U.S. Intermediate Nuclear Forces agreement and START II) and (2) its dependency on Russian controlled oil and gas. In the south, oil producing Iran and Iraq, isolated by United States' Middle East diplomacy, are quietly and slowly sliding further into the deadly embrace of the northern bear.**

    The centuries long Russian-Anglo-American love-hate relationship has been evolving dramatically from late 1978 until today, for sure. However, one might notice that it is being redesigned in such a way as to accommodate in the long run a more assertive, more successful and more powerful Russia overlording its European and southern peripheries.

    A first sketch of such an analysis I presented in 1992 at the ISA conference in Atlanta. For a more detailed analysis of the historical background, of the economic, military and political circumstances of such a probable scenario, you are invited to read the following pages.”
    , @Dacian
    With all due respect for your many interesting postings, I think, this narrative needs a major correction. The best summary is in the preface of a book “The New CommonWealth”:

    “For anyone who has followed closely the events in Eastern Europe for the past thirty years, the systematic absence of one possible scenario from the mainstream media dialog is baffling — namely that today's Russian troubles may be only a shield behind which a more powerful regeneration is in progress. The New York Times Magazine, August 10, 1997, brings up one of many questions to which modern history awaits a convincing answer. On the occasion of former Defense Secretary McNamara's revisiting Vietnam, it reminds us of one such unelucidated inconsistency: "If the reason [for the war in Vietnam] was to fight communism, why did the U.S. not help China in 1949, or why did the U.S. not help the Batista regime in Cuba in 1959?"
    There are indeed significant and puzzling inconsistencies in the story of the Soviet Union's "collapse." Consider the artfulness, bordering on the Machiavellian, and the lengthy effort that went into its demise and one has sufficient grounds for a different tale. The process of "collapse," basically from 1983 on, came about as the country's establishment applied blow after blow to the highly coherent and resilient Soviet system. The most intriguing aspect of this incredible series of events is that behind it was the political will of the elite — the Soviet elite who had decided that the Soviet system must be dismembered, while the so-called disgruntled masses played a minor role. That amounts, but only on a superficial look, to the impression that the elite itself might have voluntarily decided to dismantle and demobilize its own lines of defense and submit to a condition of servitude to the rest of the world. On the contrary, I am not only in agreement with Weir and Kotz and others who ascribe perestroika and the collapse of the Soviet system to the Soviet elite, but I suggest that today's troubles are not a result of a failed perestroika but are only Phase II of perestroika. From socialism to capitalism and back to a superior form of socialism is how the old Marxist dialecticians would phrase it. By compromising both models— the old communist orthodoxy as well as the newer aspirant, casino capitalism—the power establishment makes it possible to bring the country safely back to socialist capitalism.

    But if one accepts this hypothesis, then it becomes the premise of an unsettling line of reasoning. The elite of the second most powerful corporation in the world, the Soviet Union, must have had a self-serving reason to take such risks and must as well have had the opportunity to reformulate its modus operandi.

    If this is so, the further implication would be that the "collapse" was possible not in reaction to a stronger U.S. but precisely because the other superpower also showed every sign of weakness and crisis so that it could not mount any credible offensive, economically or militarily, while the Soviet Union went through its own version of the Great Depression en route toward economic restructuring and political modernization.

    The most plausible interpretation of the series of international issues of the 1980s (the new economic assertiveness of Western Europe and Japan, the war in Afghanistan, the Iran-Iraq craze, the Solidarity movement in Poland, the world debt crisis, etc.) is that they were already setting the framework for a future covenant — "the new world order" — between the former superpowers, to their mutual advantage. That presupposes an early, even pre-1980, agreed armistice and rethinking of the exhausting confrontation.

    If Russia was in a position to let down its guard to the extent that we are witnessing today, it was only because it found itself not in a weak position but in the strongest military-strategic position in its history, free from imminent outside threat as enshrined at Helsinki in the 1975 Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe. Given its control of the world's richest reserves of oil, gas, nuclear material, and raw materials, together with its educated professionals, an unmatched nuclear arsenal*, space technology leadership, etc. — all Russia needed was to repackage its system as a benevolent system, to make it into a soothing and attractive social and economic model, to launch a successful public relations scheme. To succeed at that would be worth the costs and the risks!

    From such a strategic viewpoint one may infer that the dismantling of the Soviet Union was only the first step of the former Soviet elite's new policy of Soviet "market" outreach to the West as well as to the South.

    In the west, Western Europe today seems at its zenith, however, its fate may well have been determined by (1) its military emasculation (by the Treaty of European Conventional Arms Reduction, the 1988 Soviet-U.S. Intermediate Nuclear Forces agreement and START II) and (2) its dependency on Russian controlled oil and gas. In the south, oil producing Iran and Iraq, isolated by United States' Middle East diplomacy, are quietly and slowly sliding further into the deadly embrace of the northern bear.**

    The centuries long Russian-Anglo-American love-hate relationship has been evolving dramatically from late 1978 until today, for sure. However, one might notice that it is being redesigned in such a way as to accommodate in the long run a more assertive, more successful and more powerful Russia overlording its European and southern peripheries.

    A first sketch of such an analysis I presented in 1992 at the ISA conference in Atlanta. For a more detailed analysis of the historical background, of the economic, military and political circumstances of such a probable scenario, you are invited to read the following pages.”
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  2. Wally says:

    Predictably left out by Petras, “that shitty little country”.

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    Predictably left out by Petras, “that shitty little country”.
     
    It’s all about that pseudo-country, Israel. The major Russophobia started when Russia stepped in in Syria to thwart the (((globalists’))) plans. Then as a response to this you had (((Victoria Nuland))) instigate a regime change in Ukraine to undermine Russia and initiated a predictable and unimaginative series of false flags and financial manipulations (the preferred weapon and tool of the devil’s salespeople).
    , @Z-man
    Agree and LOL!
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  3. gjack says:

    The analysis is right on the money, but, yes, the ethnic roots of the problem (and ancient hatreds) could have come in for a bit of examination. For the most part, Russia has been a Jewish project since 1917, including those halcyon days of the Yeltsin kleptocracy. Putin has really thrown a wrench in the works.

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    Yes, Petras describes the phenomena effectively but not its specific roots. This is where it gets touchy.

    It is not unreasonable to conclude that Putin's Russia happens to be in Zio-America-NATO's crosshairs in large part because of Russia's alliance with the anti-Zionist governments of Syria and Iran.

    This defiant partnership makes Israel mad.

    And when Israel gets mad, heads roll.

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  4. @gjack
    The analysis is right on the money, but, yes, the ethnic roots of the problem (and ancient hatreds) could have come in for a bit of examination. For the most part, Russia has been a Jewish project since 1917, including those halcyon days of the Yeltsin kleptocracy. Putin has really thrown a wrench in the works.

    Yes, Petras describes the phenomena effectively but not its specific roots. This is where it gets touchy.

    It is not unreasonable to conclude that Putin’s Russia happens to be in Zio-America-NATO’s crosshairs in large part because of Russia’s alliance with the anti-Zionist governments of Syria and Iran.

    This defiant partnership makes Israel mad.

    And when Israel gets mad, heads roll.

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    • Replies: @Solly
    Apartheid Israel is a parasite state spunging off at the expense of the US Taxpayer and continues to oppress the Palestinian people.Furthermore Apartheid Israel with its illegal occupation of Palestinian land still defies international law with its non stop expansion of settlements
    in the West Bank.
    Russia under a malitary treaty with Syria intervened to assist in fighting Western backed terrorist groups like Al Nusra as was the case in Aleppo and now East Ghoutia. It is sad that so many lives have been lost and one would hope to a peaceful resolution in Syria.
    Apartheid Israel has always wanted a so-called Regime change in Syria and despite its continued aggression in Syria has failed.
    Again the USA under Trump and its lackey Israel wants to undermine the nuclear treaty signed with Iran.It should also be remembered that Russia is a malitary power house on the international stage with China will be able to maintain the balance of power with an aggressive and belligerent USA and it’s Western NATO countries.
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  5. Not close. Facts matter. Putin was unchallenged well past Georgia.

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    • Replies: @yurivku
    Just relax. Your poodle UK is miserable and disgusting, but actually like the whole rotten West.
    Your wet dreams of indespensibility had crashed and you can't stand it?
    Look at us, we are not bother much with your [email protected] sanctions etc. Be a man (not like williamson/johnson) and don't cry.
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  6. Why the UK, the EU and the US Gang-Up on Russia

    Actually, the EU and the US seem to be back-pedalling, leaving Theresa May and Boris on their Jack Jones, as Alexander Mercouris makes plain.

    http://theduran.com/

    Now Mercouris is one Greek who nearly always gets it right. He doesn’t let wishful thinking cloud his judgement. His forensic ability is usually escellent, as he demonstrates in the article.

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    • Replies: @Miro23
    Yes, and Mercouris picked up the familiar pre-prepared rush to judgment:

    The single biggest unexplained mystery about the Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly.Within hours of Sergey and Yulia Skripal being found passed out on a bench the British media were feverishly speculating that they had been poisoned by Russia.

    This despite the fact that no information at that point existed which warranted such speculation, and despite pleas for the investigation to be allowed to take its course from the police and from the government minister responsible for the police, Home Secretary Amber Rudd (who has ever since been conspicuously silent about the whole affair).

    Within three days of Sergey and Yulia Skripal being found on passed out on a bench – and before any information linking the incident to Russia had become publicly available – the British government’s COBRA committee was meeting –

    http://theduran.com/skripal-case-misuse-intelligence/#o9OT6EdYhEmA45Js.99

     

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  7. Miro23 says:

    Donald J. Trump‏@realDonaldTrump 21 mar.

    I called President Putin of Russia to congratulate him on his election victory (in past, Obama called him also). The Fake News Media is crazed because they wanted me to excoriate him. They are wrong! Getting along with Russia (and others) is a good thing, not a bad thing…….

    And then he appoints Bolton as National Security Advisor??

    So maybe Russia gets separated from Syria/Iran prior to them being attacked – or maybe Trump supports the Neocons, or maybe he is is sowing confusion among them – or maybe he doesn’t have a clue what he is doing?

    Personally, I think that he’s being blackmailed, and is kicking around as much as possible while doing what he’s told.

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    • Replies: @Gavrick
    Good Morning Mr. President. Deep State here.

    You've a lovely family. It'd be a real SHAME were something untoward to happen to it.
    , @Twodees Partain
    Yeah, it does seem that consistency isn't exactly Trump's long suit. He might have a vague idea of what he wants to do, but he obviously hasn't a clue of how to do it. Being vulnerable to blackmail seems to be one of the primary requirements for being president.
    , @Colleen Pater
    You assume trump has a clue about what Bolton is about, Trumps doesnt read sticky notes so he has no clue about anything some (((neocon))) tells him hire bolton hes just like you he hires him, trumps got no context for the trump doctrine its all based on his resentment of the japs buying rock center in the 80s.It doesnt help that he is way outside the uniparty so he cant find anyone with experience to work for him ideologically let alone the problem of his personality disorder and all the rest. I suppose he could ask past buchanan imagine that uproar
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  8. Randal says:

    Broadly plausible, but a couple of strange wordings and omissions. Petras seems to pointedly avoid mentioning Yugoslavia/Serbia and the Kosovo war, despite the centrality of that event in the development of relations between the US sphere and post-Soviet Russia, and despite twice referring to a list of other states that obviously ought to have included Serbia/Yugoslavia: “Russia was unable to aid its allies in the Ukraine, Cuba, North Korea, Libya etc.” and “The US launched numerous coups and military intervention and fraudulent elections to surround and isolate Russia . The Ukraine, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen and Russian allies in Central Asia were targeted.

    First and foremost, during the 1990’s the US degraded Russia, reducing it to a vassal state, and imposing itself as a unipolar state.

    Presumably this should be something like:

    “….the US degraded Russia, reducing it to a vassal state, and imposing itself as the dominant state in a unipolar world.”

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  9. Russia uses the West as an effective bogeyman whilst its ruling elites maintain power and enrich themselves in the bargain. Some sections of Western elites (neo-cons and the military) use Russia as an effective bogeyman to further their own interests. But it’s important to appreciate that neither approach is purely cynical – self-interest and ideology are usually intertwined.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "Russia uses the West as an effective bogeyman whilst its ruling elites maintain power and enrich themselves in the bargain. "
    What is your evidence? Or you have a hunch a la Theresa & Boris? http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/russian-federation-sitrep-5-april-2018-patrick-armstrong.html
    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/when-russians-were-americanophiles/
    , @annamaria
    Here for you is a substantiated report on the Skripal' affair, which is exposing the stupidity of the UK/US "leaders" as well as the stupidity of the UK secret services (M16): https://www.globalresearch.ca/doubts-about-novichok/5634828
    "A subsequent cable on 3 April 2009 from the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton instructed the US delegation to the Informal Inter-Sessional Meeting of the Australia Group (a group of US-allied countries set up in 1985 to control the export of precursors of chemical weapons) ... to:
    — Report any instances in which the book [Mirazayanov book “State Secrets: An Insider’s View of the Russian Chemical Weapons Program”] is raised.
    — Quietly discourage substantive discussions by suggesting that the issue is ‘best left to experts in capitals.’
    These cables establish that the US and UK governments sought to discourage discussion of Mirzayanov’s book in 2009. Taken together with the deletion of the record for A-234 submitted by Edgewood to the NIST Mass Spectral library, this suggests that the US and UK governments are concealing what they know about the A-230 series of compounds, for reasons that are not clear."
    NIST = National Institute of Standards and Technology, Gaithersburg, Maryland, U.S.
    , @annamaria
    Western MSM is an acknowledged tool for the plutocrats/war profiteers: https://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-behind-fake-news-fake-videos-and-images/5634429
    Considering the spectacular incompetence of the "tool," decent people do not choose to work with the MSM:
    1. "The terror attack in the afternoon of March 22, 2016, at Brussels Maelbeek Metro station was reported by mainstream media including CNN. In these reports, video footage from a 2011 terror attack in Minsk, Belarus was used by network TV and online media to describe what was happening in the metro station at the time of the attacks."
    2. "The report of DHnet.be on the Brussels airport attack used the video of the Moscow 2011 attack with the date of the Brussels attack: (22/03/2016) pasted onto the Russian video."
    3. “The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) has been slammed for mistakenly using a photo taken in Iraq in 2003 to illustrate the Syria 2012 massacre, in which over 100 people, including 32 children, were brutally killed."
    4. "September 2011: The international community, we are told, is waging a “humanitarian war”. And the people of Libya are rejoicing. “NATO has liberated Libya from the tyranny of Muammar Ghadaffi." There is no celebration. It is a NATO-sponsored massacre which has resulted in several thousand deaths."
    And more...
    Then there are While Helmets, the acknowledged murderers sponsored by M16 and glorified by the whoring Hollywood: http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/03/07/white-helmets-swedish-doctors-denounce-medical-malpractice-and-misuse-of-children-for-propaganda-purposes/ https://consortiumnews.com/2016/10/23/the-white-helmets-controversy/
    White Helmets are founded "by James Le Mesurier, a former intelligence officer with the British military:" https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/syrian-rescue-organization-the-white-helmets-are-terrorists/
    And here are the presstitutes to the rescue: https://www.rt.com/op-ed/412462-white-helmets-reporters-without-borders/
    , @Homunculus
    No, it is the other way around.
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  10. Solly says:
    @mark green
    Yes, Petras describes the phenomena effectively but not its specific roots. This is where it gets touchy.

    It is not unreasonable to conclude that Putin's Russia happens to be in Zio-America-NATO's crosshairs in large part because of Russia's alliance with the anti-Zionist governments of Syria and Iran.

    This defiant partnership makes Israel mad.

    And when Israel gets mad, heads roll.

    Apartheid Israel is a parasite state spunging off at the expense of the US Taxpayer and continues to oppress the Palestinian people.Furthermore Apartheid Israel with its illegal occupation of Palestinian land still defies international law with its non stop expansion of settlements
    in the West Bank.
    Russia under a malitary treaty with Syria intervened to assist in fighting Western backed terrorist groups like Al Nusra as was the case in Aleppo and now East Ghoutia. It is sad that so many lives have been lost and one would hope to a peaceful resolution in Syria.
    Apartheid Israel has always wanted a so-called Regime change in Syria and despite its continued aggression in Syria has failed.
    Again the USA under Trump and its lackey Israel wants to undermine the nuclear treaty signed with Iran.It should also be remembered that Russia is a malitary power house on the international stage with China will be able to maintain the balance of power with an aggressive and belligerent USA and it’s Western NATO countries.

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  11. Gavrick says:

    Glack said, “The analysis is right on the money, but, yes, the ethnic roots of the problem (and ancient hatreds) could have come in for a bit of examination. For the most part, Russia has been a Jewish project since 1917, including those halcyon days of the Yeltsin kleptocracy. Putin has really thrown a wrench in the works.”

    Let’s also never forget (((who))) controls the Western press and (((who))) Putin has punished for their predatory practices.

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  12. Gavrick says:
    @Miro23

    Donald J. Trump‏@realDonaldTrump 21 mar.

    I called President Putin of Russia to congratulate him on his election victory (in past, Obama called him also). The Fake News Media is crazed because they wanted me to excoriate him. They are wrong! Getting along with Russia (and others) is a good thing, not a bad thing.......
     
    And then he appoints Bolton as National Security Advisor??

    So maybe Russia gets separated from Syria/Iran prior to them being attacked - or maybe Trump supports the Neocons, or maybe he is is sowing confusion among them - or maybe he doesn't have a clue what he is doing?

    Personally, I think that he's being blackmailed, and is kicking around as much as possible while doing what he's told.

    Good Morning Mr. President. Deep State here.

    You’ve a lovely family. It’d be a real SHAME were something untoward to happen to it.

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    If Trump is being blackmailed, he doesn't make a very good blackmail candidate.

    No doubt they've done a lot of digging on him, and there's a lot there to find.

    The problem from their POV (Deep State) is that 1) he's old and may not care 2) he's not a long time political careerist like Obama or the typical Congressman - he's not really in the system 3) he doesn't like to lose - and being blackmailed is losing 4) he's aware that he has independent support with the public - and that the public doesn't at all like Washington.

    The risk for Deep State blackmailers is that he comes clean about it, bypassing the MSM and publically outing them. Who will the US public believe? Trump or the MSM?
    , @jacques sheete

    Good Morning Mr. President. Deep State here.

    You’ve a lovely family. It’d be a real SHAME were something untoward to happen to it.
     
    ...You’ve a lovely family and lots of very vulnerable property...
    , @Z-man
    That's as plausible a reason for Trump's flip flops as any. Now if only Bolton could get a 'heart attack' while assuming his duties as NSA. And Linda Graham could choke to death on a sausage. (Grin)
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  13. @Andrei Martyanov
    Excellent summary.

    The great Jimmy Dore provides an even better summary, on video:

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  14. annamaria says:
    @Henry's Cat
    Russia uses the West as an effective bogeyman whilst its ruling elites maintain power and enrich themselves in the bargain. Some sections of Western elites (neo-cons and the military) use Russia as an effective bogeyman to further their own interests. But it's important to appreciate that neither approach is purely cynical - self-interest and ideology are usually intertwined.

    “Russia uses the West as an effective bogeyman whilst its ruling elites maintain power and enrich themselves in the bargain. ”
    What is your evidence? Or you have a hunch a la Theresa & Boris? http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/04/russian-federation-sitrep-5-april-2018-patrick-armstrong.html

    http://www.unz.com/akarlin/when-russians-were-americanophiles/

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  15. Miro23 says:
    @Verymuchalive

    Why the UK, the EU and the US Gang-Up on Russia
     
    Actually, the EU and the US seem to be back-pedalling, leaving Theresa May and Boris on their Jack Jones, as Alexander Mercouris makes plain.
    http://theduran.com/

    Now Mercouris is one Greek who nearly always gets it right. He doesn't let wishful thinking cloud his judgement. His forensic ability is usually escellent, as he demonstrates in the article.

    Yes, and Mercouris picked up the familiar pre-prepared rush to judgment:

    The single biggest unexplained mystery about the Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly.Within hours of Sergey and Yulia Skripal being found passed out on a bench the British media were feverishly speculating that they had been poisoned by Russia.

    This despite the fact that no information at that point existed which warranted such speculation, and despite pleas for the investigation to be allowed to take its course from the police and from the government minister responsible for the police, Home Secretary Amber Rudd (who has ever since been conspicuously silent about the whole affair).

    Within three days of Sergey and Yulia Skripal being found on passed out on a bench – and before any information linking the incident to Russia had become publicly available – the British government’s COBRA committee was meeting –

    http://theduran.com/skripal-case-misuse-intelligence/#o9OT6EdYhEmA45Js.99

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    What a nasty pathetic joke the UK Tories have become !
    Its a nerve agent ! Its a Novochock of "a type developed by" the USSR = Russia. 6...10 times more powerful than VX etc, etc.
    And low & behold the "poison" is traced to Skipal's home door handle !
    So - contamination by this "military grade" nerve agent...& 3 or so hours later the father & daughter fall sick !
    Wow, they make there 70 odd year old Russians tough. You & I would have carked it by the front gate or letter box; them, they have a nice lunch first, a walk, a sit down first....
    Hooray, the UK is a world wanker...sorry, PLAYER again.
    , @Randal

    The single biggest unexplained mystery about the Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly
     
    Obviously the answer to that question is that the UK regime, or those behind it, chose to push it. The question that's troubling me at the moment is what is the end game for the UK regime and/or other interested parties? As the whole thing falls apart so easily, it appears there was less and less substance behind it.

    Did they really believe they could sustain their campaign long term based upon pure fabrication, bluster and bullshit? Is this really all there is to it, or is there some kind of follow up still to come?

    Because at the moment it just looks like rank incompetent stupidity on their part, and I'm always wary of underestimating the enemy. If they had achieved something big that they might have thought worthwhile at the cost of being humiliated, as the neocons achieved the final destruction of one of Israel's rivals at the cost of being discredited, with the Iraq War, it might make some sense, but there seems no long term goal achieved here - nothing but some political and diplomatic gains that will likely be reversed and more as the consequences unfold.

    It worries me when my enemies suddenly appear so laughably incompetent and ineffectual.
    , @JR
    Actually this rush to judgement was shared with MH17
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  16. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Same reason India, Kenya, and Malaysia sided with the Brits against the Germans. They were subjects of the British empire.

    US, UK, and EU are subjects of Empire of Judea.

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  17. I’m surprised that the author didn’t even mention a couple of other facts:
    First, the west created civil war in Syria has backfired since it could not get rid of Al Bashar. The policy is already scrapped.
    Second, the west, Israel and Saudi Arabia lost the war in Syria and so far the winners are Al Bashar (Syria), Russia, Turkey and Iran. Trump is realizing it now thus the reason for him to say “we’re going to pull our men out of Syria immediately”!
    Third, the west’s proxies ISIS and the other terrorist group named “Syrian Freedom Fighters” which their main objective was to drive Al Bashar out of Syria are beaten badly and scattered. And in order to save the remaining ISIS manpower, they were transferred to Afghanistan and perhaps they are waiting for their next order to arrive!

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  18. Miro23 says:
    @Gavrick
    Good Morning Mr. President. Deep State here.

    You've a lovely family. It'd be a real SHAME were something untoward to happen to it.

    If Trump is being blackmailed, he doesn’t make a very good blackmail candidate.

    No doubt they’ve done a lot of digging on him, and there’s a lot there to find.

    The problem from their POV (Deep State) is that 1) he’s old and may not care 2) he’s not a long time political careerist like Obama or the typical Congressman – he’s not really in the system 3) he doesn’t like to lose – and being blackmailed is losing 4) he’s aware that he has independent support with the public – and that the public doesn’t at all like Washington.

    The risk for Deep State blackmailers is that he comes clean about it, bypassing the MSM and publically outing them. Who will the US public believe? Trump or the MSM?

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    If Trump is being blackmailed, he doesn’t make a very good blackmail candidate.
     
    Maybe not, but he makes an excellent extortion candidate.
    , @renfro

    The risk for Deep State blackmailers is that he comes clean about it, bypassing the MSM and publically outing them. Who will the US public believe? Trump or the MSM?
     
    If Trump is being blackmailed its most likely about him being aware that the Russian buyers of his properties were buying for the purpose of money laundering.
    Even "if" Trump didn't know it...and he would have to be dumber than a rock not to have known....any of Putin's oligarchs could slip Mueller some info to implicate him. Or one of the Russians already indicted for money laundering could implicate Trump.
    That would put an end to Trump's empire.

    That is why Mueller added a team of money laundering specialist to his team even before he was onto Manafort's money laundering. The money laundering in real estate is an open secret, especially in NY.

    As far as women scandals go I don't think anyone really cares... unless Kushner would tell people that Ivanka had an incestuous relationship with Trump....that would ruin him with his voters.
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  19. @Miro23
    Yes, and Mercouris picked up the familiar pre-prepared rush to judgment:

    The single biggest unexplained mystery about the Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly.Within hours of Sergey and Yulia Skripal being found passed out on a bench the British media were feverishly speculating that they had been poisoned by Russia.

    This despite the fact that no information at that point existed which warranted such speculation, and despite pleas for the investigation to be allowed to take its course from the police and from the government minister responsible for the police, Home Secretary Amber Rudd (who has ever since been conspicuously silent about the whole affair).

    Within three days of Sergey and Yulia Skripal being found on passed out on a bench – and before any information linking the incident to Russia had become publicly available – the British government’s COBRA committee was meeting –

    http://theduran.com/skripal-case-misuse-intelligence/#o9OT6EdYhEmA45Js.99

     

    What a nasty pathetic joke the UK Tories have become !
    Its a nerve agent ! Its a Novochock of “a type developed by” the USSR = Russia. 6…10 times more powerful than VX etc, etc.
    And low & behold the “poison” is traced to Skipal’s home door handle !
    So – contamination by this “military grade” nerve agent…& 3 or so hours later the father & daughter fall sick !
    Wow, they make there 70 odd year old Russians tough. You & I would have carked it by the front gate or letter box; them, they have a nice lunch first, a walk, a sit down first….
    Hooray, the UK is a world wanker…sorry, PLAYER again.

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    If Russia had poisoned the Skipals they would be dead instead of just sick.
    Otoh if it was a false flag operation......well then...????
    , @Ger
    1st Step: Test the door knob to make sure the nerve agent they planted can be detected.
    (How many guinea pigs were sacrificed getting the formula right?)

    2nd Step: Starve the dogs to death before they lick the door knob.
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  20. ” Why do the Western regimes now feel Russia is a greater threat then in the past? ”
    Should be
    Why do the Western regimes now feel Russia is a greater threat to them then in the past?

    The answer seems quite simple to me, Russia is part of Europe, of the western world, that is, until the Ural mountains, the tzarist court spoke french, therefore controlling Russia is of the utmost importance.
    Dissidents are a nuisance.

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    The answer seems quite simple to me, Russia is part of Europe, of the western world, that is, until the Ural mountains, the tzarist court spoke french, therefore controlling Russia is of the utmost importance.
     
    Well, not quite so simple. Russia is very Europeanized, and of course the Russian elite would be delighted to be considered full Europeans, and with them Russia itself.

    To someone, say from Africa or South America, the assumption is that since Russians look European, then their civilization and outlook, their inner soul, if you will, must also be. People in America, for example, think this way too.

    Historically though, Europeans have never considered Russia part of Europe.
    Europeans have never accepted Russia into their civilization. Not even during the Napoleonic Wars, when Russia had not yet experienced communism, certainly not after World War 2, and not today.

    Russia seems to be its own unique thing, straddling the line between being European and non-European in terms of national soul, and the fact of their white skin does not affect this conclusion.

    Russia is simply . . . Russia.
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  21. Very good.

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  22. Norwegian says:

    Its quite irratinal. Putin say historically this happen everytime Russia gets strong

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  23. @Miro23

    Donald J. Trump‏@realDonaldTrump 21 mar.

    I called President Putin of Russia to congratulate him on his election victory (in past, Obama called him also). The Fake News Media is crazed because they wanted me to excoriate him. They are wrong! Getting along with Russia (and others) is a good thing, not a bad thing.......
     
    And then he appoints Bolton as National Security Advisor??

    So maybe Russia gets separated from Syria/Iran prior to them being attacked - or maybe Trump supports the Neocons, or maybe he is is sowing confusion among them - or maybe he doesn't have a clue what he is doing?

    Personally, I think that he's being blackmailed, and is kicking around as much as possible while doing what he's told.

    Yeah, it does seem that consistency isn’t exactly Trump’s long suit. He might have a vague idea of what he wants to do, but he obviously hasn’t a clue of how to do it. Being vulnerable to blackmail seems to be one of the primary requirements for being president.

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  24. @Gavrick
    Good Morning Mr. President. Deep State here.

    You've a lovely family. It'd be a real SHAME were something untoward to happen to it.

    Good Morning Mr. President. Deep State here.

    You’ve a lovely family. It’d be a real SHAME were something untoward to happen to it.

    …You’ve a lovely family and lots of very vulnerable property...

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  25. In a word, the UK, the EU and the US are ganging-up on Russia, for diverse historic and contemporary reasons.

    Especially economic ones, just like the “allies” ganged up on Germany, twice, for similar reasons.

    However, there are no doubt other motives, many quite irrational, and it’s obviously futile to try and search for any sensible reasons.

    Our analysis of the historical evidence has shown, first, the unquestionable fact that “objectless” tendencies toward forcible expansion, without definite, utilitarian limits—that is, non-rational and irrational, purely instinctual inclinations toward war and conquest—play a very large role in the history of mankind It may sound paradoxical, but numberless wars —perhaps the majority of all wars—have been waged without adequate “reason”. —not so much from the moral viewpoint as from that of reasoned and reasonable interest.

    -Joseph Schumpeter, Imperialism and Social Classes, p64, (First printing 1951)

    https://mises.org/system/tdf/Imperialism%20and%20Social%20Classes_2.pdf?file=1&type=document

    Bottom line: Assholes will be assholes, and there are always plenty of assholes in positions of power.

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  26. Randal says:
    @Miro23
    Yes, and Mercouris picked up the familiar pre-prepared rush to judgment:

    The single biggest unexplained mystery about the Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly.Within hours of Sergey and Yulia Skripal being found passed out on a bench the British media were feverishly speculating that they had been poisoned by Russia.

    This despite the fact that no information at that point existed which warranted such speculation, and despite pleas for the investigation to be allowed to take its course from the police and from the government minister responsible for the police, Home Secretary Amber Rudd (who has ever since been conspicuously silent about the whole affair).

    Within three days of Sergey and Yulia Skripal being found on passed out on a bench – and before any information linking the incident to Russia had become publicly available – the British government’s COBRA committee was meeting –

    http://theduran.com/skripal-case-misuse-intelligence/#o9OT6EdYhEmA45Js.99

     

    The single biggest unexplained mystery about the Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly

    Obviously the answer to that question is that the UK regime, or those behind it, chose to push it. The question that’s troubling me at the moment is what is the end game for the UK regime and/or other interested parties? As the whole thing falls apart so easily, it appears there was less and less substance behind it.

    Did they really believe they could sustain their campaign long term based upon pure fabrication, bluster and bullshit? Is this really all there is to it, or is there some kind of follow up still to come?

    Because at the moment it just looks like rank incompetent stupidity on their part, and I’m always wary of underestimating the enemy. If they had achieved something big that they might have thought worthwhile at the cost of being humiliated, as the neocons achieved the final destruction of one of Israel’s rivals at the cost of being discredited, with the Iraq War, it might make some sense, but there seems no long term goal achieved here – nothing but some political and diplomatic gains that will likely be reversed and more as the consequences unfold.

    It worries me when my enemies suddenly appear so laughably incompetent and ineffectual.

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    Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly

     

    it's MH17 redux

    or just take any of their lies, like London 7/7, or the 'sexed up dossier', or the "suicide" of David Kelly...

    Did they really believe they could sustain their campaign long term based upon pure fabrication, bluster and bullshit?
     
    is Tony Blair in prison at the Hague?

    or running around the world pretending not to be a war criminal, and trying to stop Brexit with one hand, while jerking off his masters with the other..

    Cancelling Brexit is getting "more likely", former Prime Minister Tony Blair claimed today. The ex-Labour leader told the BBC: "It's not too late until we …

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/cancelling-brexit-getting-more-likely-12270686

    Tony Blair: UK Labour leadership must root out anti-Semitism completely

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/tony-blair-uk-labour-leadership-must-root-out-anti-semitism-completely/
    , @FB

    '...Did they really believe they could sustain their campaign long term based upon pure fabrication, bluster and bullshit?

    Is this really all there is to it, or is there some kind of follow up still to come?..'
     
    Obviously this is a stunt perpetrated by the West...since there are only two possibilities...either Russia did it...which is incomprehensible...or the proven liars did it...

    Pretty much a no brainer...

    Now as to the how and why...

    The big issue has been Syria no question about that...we have seen the entire Western regime change project now take the final nail in the coffin with the Ghouta liberation...

    We recall the hysteria surrounding the launch of the Ghouta 'Operation Damascus Steel' with even threats of US cruise missile attacks...and counter threats from the Russians...

    This level of confrontation tells us the Ghouta liberation was a very big deal to the die hard regime changers...who still somehow seem to be in control of the Trump govt...

    This was confirmed by Trump saying he's going to get out...right as soon as Ghouta fell...clearly this last domino to tumble gave Trump the wiggle room to tell the generals 'I told you so now let's get out'...

    At the same time we have the Turks cleaning out the Kurds in Afrin and now threatening to march on Manbij where the US troops are...silly Macron has decided to jump in there causing even more threats from Erdogan...

    Basically the whole thing is collapsing quicker than a wet cardboard box...that's often how these things play out when a decisive turning point is reached...

    Trump's instincts are right to get out now while the getting is good...it can only get worse for the regime changers...

    Now back to Skripal...we had the hysteria about Syria chem weapons just before the SAA and Russian aviation dealt the coup de grace to the bearded fanatics in Ghouta...

    The calculation obviously was that raising the temperature even higher with this fabricated Skripal stunt...might somehow get the Russkies to relent and at least agree to some kind of pause that would let the bearded vermin live another day...

    But none of it worked...I was amazed to see that the Russians have learned their lessons from Aleppo and previous such agit-prop productions...

    They held firm in the UNSC and at the same time the routing of the bearded scum continued unabated and was wrapped up licketty split...

    This was not how it was supposed to go...

    The brainiacs who came up with the Skripal stunt [as part of the Syria campaign] obviously miscalculated badly...

    Now both Ghouta and Afrin have already folded...and Skripal is now exploding in their faces...

    Yes they were that dumb...probably because they were that desperate...

    Let's remember here that just a couple of weeks ago we were at the brink of US Russia war in Syria...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec7DRbE0oUI


    The whole thing boiled down to the good old chemical weapons canard [amazing that they still think they can fool the sheeple with it...and sure enough, judging by some of the morons on this site they still do]...both in Syria and just to add some spice...the Skripal chemical poisoning in the UK...

    So there is now nowhere for this to go except for the inconvenient truth to start coming out...

    The game now is to try to cover up this clumsy and bungled stunt...

    This is why we have Yulia now miraculously recovering...and now the father too...the family cat has been put down and cremated [cover story here is amazing...the cat died of 'malnutrition' while dozens of police combing through the house no one thinks to feed the cat or take it to an animal shelter...hmm...?]

    Now Yulia's cousin Viktoria has been denied a visa to visit the UK and see Yulia...

    WTF...?

    Apparently the embassy staff has not been allowed a consular visit...and it is unclear if one will even be forthcoming at all...[the Vienna convention rules don't matter in the least to the globalist criminals...]

    So the only thing that remains to be seen is whether we will ever find out the truth of this whole stunt...we can of course be certain that it is stunt...a theatrical production as BoJo yapped about in his 'light sabre' mumblings...

    The phone conversation between Yulia and Viktoria is very strange indeed...Yulia foretold that the visa would be denied...clearly she was not free to talk...

    We do not know anything about the actual circumstances of any of this...

    We do not even know that Yulia and her father were even poisoned...never mind a nerve agent...

    How could we possibly know anything...?

    Who has seen them...?

    Whose word are we taking here...?

    So quite clearly this is a stunt related to the Syria meltdown that has gone bad...

    Hopefully the whole sorry thing will be exposed...although there is no way to tell...

    If both Yulia and her father are in on it it will be much more difficult...even if they were not...they will be under some very big pressure...
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  27. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally
    Predictably left out by Petras, "that shitty little country".

    Predictably left out by Petras, “that shitty little country”.

    It’s all about that pseudo-country, Israel. The major Russophobia started when Russia stepped in in Syria to thwart the (((globalists’))) plans. Then as a response to this you had (((Victoria Nuland))) instigate a regime change in Ukraine to undermine Russia and initiated a predictable and unimaginative series of false flags and financial manipulations (the preferred weapon and tool of the devil’s salespeople).

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    Agreed. It was all about Syria. Although the seeds to Syria were set when Russia stopped the Georgia operation. Russia knew where it stood with the globalists. It was to die quietly or face retribution.
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  28. Z-man says:
    @Wally
    Predictably left out by Petras, "that shitty little country".

    Agree and LOL!

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  29. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    And the Russian Propaganda continues… The author’s cognitive dissonance is astonishing in simply thinking that what is happening IN Russia could not happen OUTSIDE Russia (as it aldready has in Ukraine)(also don’t forget Putin’s killing of 200.000 Chechnyans).

    Russia lacks freedom of speech, freedom of trade and freedom from police state that cooperates with organised crime. Who is really threatening Russia, the biggest country in the world and a nuclear power?! Russia’s comfortable situation does not call for continueing putting so much money in arms, scaring smaller countries and propaganda efforts via RT, Sputnik,…

    I don’t really see a reason to believe that the Western and the Russian Ruling Elite could not simply be one and the same. But that does not make the Russian police state and the Russian military less dangerous.

    UNZ needs to stop criticizing the Anglosaxon Empire by puting lipstick on the Russian pig. One can perfectly do the one without doing the other.

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    I like your sincerity, and the naivite you affect. I like the way you affect being fair minded. But you are an enemy of mankind from an alien planet.
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  30. Z-man says:
    @Gavrick
    Good Morning Mr. President. Deep State here.

    You've a lovely family. It'd be a real SHAME were something untoward to happen to it.

    That’s as plausible a reason for Trump’s flip flops as any. Now if only Bolton could get a ‘heart attack’ while assuming his duties as NSA. And Linda Graham could choke to death on a sausage. (Grin)

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  31. Z-man says:

    ….and ‘they’ hate Putin because he’s a good Christian man.
    ‘They’ really hate him because he reestablished the Christian Orthodox faith in Mother Russia.

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    ….and ‘they’ hate Putin because he’s a good Christian man.
    ‘They’ really hate him because he reestablished the Christian Orthodox faith in Mother Russia.
     
    I have a good IC source who told me that Assad became a Christian (at Our Lady of Damascus). All on the q.t. of course. This could explain why the two most Christ-hating countries in the Middle East (Israel & KSA) have sought to remove him.
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  32. I think one thing’s being missed here – it’s only in the last year or so, certainly in the UK, that the “Russian threat” is being pushed for public consumption, in the mass media and popular press.

    US/EU elites are worried that the ethnic European frog, sitting more or less contented in an ever-warmer pot since the 1960s, is trying to escape, and they’ve labelled this escape attempt “populism”.

    Brexit and Trump are the two big attempts, but elections in Austria and Italy, Merkel’s decline and the AfD rise, FN in France, Greece, Denmark and Sweden are all signs. Meanwhile the Slavic/Magyar frogs have observed Western Europe and are saying they want no place in the pot, no matter how nice and warm it is.

    Now our elites aren’t stupid, or they wouldn’t have all the money and power. From their perspective, if the masses are angry, better that anger is guided and directed at Russia than at either the New Europeans who are raping our children, or heaven forfend the elites themselves (I consider my own Prime Minister a greater threat to my children than Putin is. But it is permitted to walk with the devil until we have crossed the Brexit bridge).

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  33. This is just political polemics. The author doesn’t really put forward any arguments. And of course, in best cold warrior fashion, he assimilates the Russian Federation to the Soviet Union.

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  34. The U.S. and the U.K. and Europe are controlled by Zionists and Russia stands in the way of the Zionist goal of a Zionist controlled ONE WORLD GOV and so the Zionists are doing everything thing they can to destroy Russia.

    God bless Putin and God bless Russia and God bless Assad and Syria.

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  35. Joe Wong says:
    @Andrei Martyanov
    Excellent summary.

    The world needs Russian to keep the psychopathic Anglo Five Eyes warmongers in check.

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    That seems to be the case.

    The wild Russians have much better self-control, and a much less grandiose and more moral, foreign policy than does the USA.

    Our instincts, meaning those of our Elites who make the decisions, are getting worse and worse. Hubris is reigning in DC, NYC, and Hollywood.
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  36. annamaria says:
    @Henry's Cat
    Russia uses the West as an effective bogeyman whilst its ruling elites maintain power and enrich themselves in the bargain. Some sections of Western elites (neo-cons and the military) use Russia as an effective bogeyman to further their own interests. But it's important to appreciate that neither approach is purely cynical - self-interest and ideology are usually intertwined.

    Here for you is a substantiated report on the Skripal’ affair, which is exposing the stupidity of the UK/US “leaders” as well as the stupidity of the UK secret services (M16): https://www.globalresearch.ca/doubts-about-novichok/5634828
    “A subsequent cable on 3 April 2009 from the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton instructed the US delegation to the Informal Inter-Sessional Meeting of the Australia Group (a group of US-allied countries set up in 1985 to control the export of precursors of chemical weapons) … to:
    — Report any instances in which the book [Mirazayanov book “State Secrets: An Insider’s View of the Russian Chemical Weapons Program”] is raised.
    — Quietly discourage substantive discussions by suggesting that the issue is ‘best left to experts in capitals.’
    These cables establish that the US and UK governments sought to discourage discussion of Mirzayanov’s book in 2009. Taken together with the deletion of the record for A-234 submitted by Edgewood to the NIST Mass Spectral library, this suggests that the US and UK governments are concealing what they know about the A-230 series of compounds, for reasons that are not clear.”
    NIST = National Institute of Standards and Technology, Gaithersburg, Maryland, U.S.

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  37. @Anonymous
    And the Russian Propaganda continues... The author's cognitive dissonance is astonishing in simply thinking that what is happening IN Russia could not happen OUTSIDE Russia (as it aldready has in Ukraine)(also don't forget Putin's killing of 200.000 Chechnyans).

    Russia lacks freedom of speech, freedom of trade and freedom from police state that cooperates with organised crime. Who is really threatening Russia, the biggest country in the world and a nuclear power?! Russia's comfortable situation does not call for continueing putting so much money in arms, scaring smaller countries and propaganda efforts via RT, Sputnik,...

    I don't really see a reason to believe that the Western and the Russian Ruling Elite could not simply be one and the same. But that does not make the Russian police state and the Russian military less dangerous.

    UNZ needs to stop criticizing the Anglosaxon Empire by puting lipstick on the Russian pig. One can perfectly do the one without doing the other.

    I like your sincerity, and the naivite you affect. I like the way you affect being fair minded. But you are an enemy of mankind from an alien planet.

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  38. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @Z-man
    ....and 'they' hate Putin because he's a good Christian man.
    'They' really hate him because he reestablished the Christian Orthodox faith in Mother Russia.

    ….and ‘they’ hate Putin because he’s a good Christian man.
    ‘They’ really hate him because he reestablished the Christian Orthodox faith in Mother Russia.

    I have a good IC source who told me that Assad became a Christian (at Our Lady of Damascus). All on the q.t. of course. This could explain why the two most Christ-hating countries in the Middle East (Israel & KSA) have sought to remove him.

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    This is pure BS. But one can see the propaganda value of the alleged fake conversion can bring to the KSA and Israel
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  39. annamaria says:
    @Henry's Cat
    Russia uses the West as an effective bogeyman whilst its ruling elites maintain power and enrich themselves in the bargain. Some sections of Western elites (neo-cons and the military) use Russia as an effective bogeyman to further their own interests. But it's important to appreciate that neither approach is purely cynical - self-interest and ideology are usually intertwined.

    Western MSM is an acknowledged tool for the plutocrats/war profiteers: https://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-behind-fake-news-fake-videos-and-images/5634429
    Considering the spectacular incompetence of the “tool,” decent people do not choose to work with the MSM:
    1. “The terror attack in the afternoon of March 22, 2016, at Brussels Maelbeek Metro station was reported by mainstream media including CNN. In these reports, video footage from a 2011 terror attack in Minsk, Belarus was used by network TV and online media to describe what was happening in the metro station at the time of the attacks.”
    2. “The report of DHnet.be on the Brussels airport attack used the video of the Moscow 2011 attack with the date of the Brussels attack: (22/03/2016) pasted onto the Russian video.”
    3. “The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) has been slammed for mistakenly using a photo taken in Iraq in 2003 to illustrate the Syria 2012 massacre, in which over 100 people, including 32 children, were brutally killed.”
    4. “September 2011: The international community, we are told, is waging a “humanitarian war”. And the people of Libya are rejoicing. “NATO has liberated Libya from the tyranny of Muammar Ghadaffi.” There is no celebration. It is a NATO-sponsored massacre which has resulted in several thousand deaths.”
    And more…
    Then there are While Helmets, the acknowledged murderers sponsored by M16 and glorified by the whoring Hollywood: http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/03/07/white-helmets-swedish-doctors-denounce-medical-malpractice-and-misuse-of-children-for-propaganda-purposes/ https://consortiumnews.com/2016/10/23/the-white-helmets-controversy/
    White Helmets are founded “by James Le Mesurier, a former intelligence officer with the British military:” https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/syrian-rescue-organization-the-white-helmets-are-terrorists/
    And here are the presstitutes to the rescue: https://www.rt.com/op-ed/412462-white-helmets-reporters-without-borders/

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  40. @Miro23
    If Trump is being blackmailed, he doesn't make a very good blackmail candidate.

    No doubt they've done a lot of digging on him, and there's a lot there to find.

    The problem from their POV (Deep State) is that 1) he's old and may not care 2) he's not a long time political careerist like Obama or the typical Congressman - he's not really in the system 3) he doesn't like to lose - and being blackmailed is losing 4) he's aware that he has independent support with the public - and that the public doesn't at all like Washington.

    The risk for Deep State blackmailers is that he comes clean about it, bypassing the MSM and publically outing them. Who will the US public believe? Trump or the MSM?

    If Trump is being blackmailed, he doesn’t make a very good blackmail candidate.

    Maybe not, but he makes an excellent extortion candidate.

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  41. yurivku says:
    @Philip Owen
    Not close. Facts matter. Putin was unchallenged well past Georgia.

    Just relax. Your poodle UK is miserable and disgusting, but actually like the whole rotten West.
    Your wet dreams of indespensibility had crashed and you can’t stand it?
    Look at us, we are not bother much with your [email protected] sanctions etc. Be a man (not like williamson/johnson) and don’t cry.

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  42. Rurik says:

    From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States)… this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”

    ~ Winston Churchill

    Russia went from 70 years of Jewish domination, terror, genocide and slavery – to then, overnight, they decided to become ‘capitalists!’ And so the Jewish supremacists that had been ravaging Russia, and humiliating her people, became the absolute owners of its resources and some of the richest men in the world. The people of Russia sank even deeper into despondency and despair. As now, there wasn’t even the pretext of communism to prevent them from destitution and hunger. As Rothschild’s agents bought the most luxurious yachts their ill-gotten, (looted from the Russian people) money could buy.

    I read this article and all I see is ‘the US did that, and the UK did this’, and the ‘EU did that’, and the ‘US is doing this..’

    well guess what? I’m an American. I was born here and this is where I live. And in NO WAY is what is being done to Russia by the “Western” powers, in ANY WAY a benefit to the people of the United States. Just the opposite, in fact.

    To write an article about the intrigues between Russia and the (((West))), and leave out the GLAIRING motivations behind it all, is vile and gross dishonesty most foul.

    The people of England do not want hostilities with Russia.

    The people of the US do not want hostilities with Russia.

    The people of the EU do not want hostilities with Russia.

    It is the (((Satanic Fiend))) that is demanding we have hostilities with Russia, because Putin upset the Fiend’s agenda vis-a-vis Syria, which they intended to fall apart like Libya, so they could steal the Golan Heights, and other criminal depravity. Duh!

    The people of Russia and the people of the ZUSA and the people of England and France and Germany and Venezuela and Ukraine, and basically the entire fucking planet, are all being dragged into these wars and belligerence by the exact same FIEND that forced the world into the world wars of the 20th century, and all to enslave the world’s people, and genocide the best of Europa off the planet, and create Israel out of the ashes of Europe and Russia.

    And it’s this exact same Fiend that is trying to do the exact same thing in this century too.

    which is why they perpetrated their 9/11 false flag pretext to that Satanic goal.

    This is why there is strife with Russia, because Putin is the only leader on the world’s stage that isn’t under the thrall of the Jewish, Rothschild banking Fiend.

    duh.

    all else is distraction from the truth. Pretending that “the US” is acting in the interests of the people of the US, is flagrant, bold-faced lying. It deserves the ‘Walter Duranty Award’ for lying in the sniveling, sycophantic service of the Fiend.

    The people of Europe and Russia suffered an unimaginably horrific catastrophe in the last century. Some 65+ millions souls died, often in horrific and barbarous ways. And it was all contrived and set in motion by Bolshevik and Zionist banksters, with a genocidal hatred for the people of the West/Russia.

    To pretend like that didn’t happen, and it has nothing to do with what’s happening again, is monstrous, beyond comprehension.

    It’s like pretending that the Palestinians are angry for no reason. When you analyze a conflict by carefully ignoring the fundamental motivations and historic context.

    What people won’t do for a few contemptuously tossed shekels, and the façade of “respectability”.

    Perhaps I’m just tired of ‘journalists’ who ply their trade to misinform.

    This guy isn’t worthy to lick Philip Giraldi’s shoes.

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    "Yup" to all!

    You'd think the brilliant, high IQ, chosen few would change their modus operandi once in a while just to keep us dumb goyim confused.

    On the other hand they seem to enjoy flaunting their depravity with impunity.
    , @chris
    Absolutely perfect, Rurik !!! (though their big fight with Putin is that he snatched Russia from them, and if there's one thing they hate is loosing)
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  43. Quote by Petras:
    Russia is not a threat to the West: it is recovering its sovereignty in order to further a multi-polar world. President Putin is not an “aggressor” but he refuses to allow Russia to return to vassalage.

    These false premises or conclusions are superficially achieved by ignoring the proverbial elephant in the room, which in this case happens to be the continued illegal occupation by Russia of the Königsberg region, also known as the Kaliningrad Oblast, located between Poland and Lithuania in the Baltic Sea. Unlike Crimea, which was reunified with Russia four years ago, the Königsberg region was never a part of Russia. It is important to understand that neither Britain nor the USA ever agreed to the transfer of this territory to the USSR at the Potsdam Conference, in the summer of 1945, nor thereafter at the so-called “Final Agreement” treaty with Germany in 1990. The Cold War in Europe will continue until Russia finally evacuates this occupied region, named after Mikhail Kalinin, a mass murderer under Stalin. (Note that Leningrad and Stalingrad were renamed long ago.)

    Russian leaders and professional propagandists should know very well that their ongoing occupation (“administration”) of this Stalinist enclave has no legitimacy under international law, just as Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and Jerusalem is illegal. This is why, as Petras and many others, they never mention this issue rather than explicitly lying about it. After the three Baltic republics of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania had regained their independence from the USSR, Gorbachev attempted to “sell” this territory to Germany at least a couple of times during the early 1990s, once reportedly for 70 billion DM, later for 48 billion DM, yet this was presumptuous on his part because he was obliged to vacate the region because it never belonged to the USSR or Russia in the first place. Over the years this Kaliningrad enclave has degenerated to a dilapidated state and has essentially become one large military base harboring a naval fleet and numerous missiles pointed toward Europe and posing a real threat. There is no other purpose for Russia holding on to this territory except to maintain an aggressive posture against Europe, especially toward the three Baltic republics.

    As was witnessed as recently as early last month at a public election rally in Kaliningrad, Vladimir Putin again expressed his dissatisfaction at the breakup of the USSR and signaled a desire to reverse it if he could.

    Source Link:

    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201803031062180213-putin-private-life-secrets/

    Quote:
    When asked the outcome of which historic event he would alter if he had the ability to do so, the Russian leader replied: “The breakup of the Soviet Union.”

    The Russian war games in Belarus a few months ago can have had no other purpose except to practice a surprise land attack to bifurcate the border between Poland and Lithuania, which were a Commonwealth centuries ago. Only about 44 miles separate Belarus from the occupied region of Königsberg; cutting off the three Baltic republics (which all use the euro as their official currency) from the rest of Europe would be a prelude toward possible re-occupation, presumably under the concocted pretext of needing to protect the Russian-speaking minority from threat or harassment, basically the same type of guise under which GHW Bush invaded Panama. Since Russia has no right to hold onto the Kaliningrad region, it would be perfectly legitimate for a NATO expedition, led by German and Lithuanian forces, to reclaim this territory and kick out the Russian military forces, plus their naval vessels, missiles, and their families in an orderly manner. The occasional hysteria one occasionally hears or reads about NATO troops allegedly at Russia’s border pertains to this ongoing territorial conflict, which appears to be a big taboo to highlight.

    An excellent example of how taboo this issue actually is was highlighted in a Bloomberg interview of Putin in September 2016 by John Micklethwait, who raised the topic of border disputes, foremost among them Russian disputes with China and Japan. Micklethwait briefly also alluded to Kaliningrad but then apologized (said he was only joking) for this mention as soon as Putin proceeded to address this topic in a transparently nonsensical and highly disingenuous manner. Putin thus falsely claimed the matter was a Pandora’s Box and attempted to link this basic dispute with post World War II border issues between Hungary and Romania or Poland and Ukraine, as if these issues were somehow a matter involving Russia, or these other countries were incapable of settling such issues bilaterally. (This interview can be found on YouTube.)

    Source Link:
    http://www.stalkerzone.org/putins-response-western-elite-bloomberg-interview/

    Another example of the taboo nature of alluding to the still unresolved Königsberg / Kaliningrad issue is that the the USA and Europe politicians and television media will howl loudly about such fait-accompli topics as the Crimean unification with Russia through two fair elections or ridiculous fabrications, such as “meddling” in American elections or as a recent staged poison attack in Britain but evade discussion the real issue of Russia’s ongoing presence in the Baltic region adjoining Poland and Lithuania, neither of which countries it shares a border with. A few reasons would come to mind:

    Firstly, publicly pressing Russia to quit its illegal occupation in the Baltic region, while encouraging Israel to continue its occupation of the West Bank and Jerusalem with generous funding, would expose the USA to additional loud charges of utter hypocrisy. (Conversely, those in the alternative media, who criticize the Israeli occupation and support the boycott-disinvestment-sanction movement while on the other hand tacitly supporting the ongoing manifestation of what came about as a consequence of Stalinist terrorism against a civilian population of Prussians, by remaining silent about the illegal Russian occupation, are effectively being hypocritical.)

    Secondly, though it is no secret that the leading functionaries within the US Neo-Con establishment operating in the DC Beltway regularly project their visceral animosity toward Russia for historical reasons, for analogous reasons they harbor an even stronger resentment toward Germany and Lithuania, both of which would be the rightful administrators of this territory after Russia eventually vacates it — the latter in the rural areas surrounding the historic German city of Königsberg, where the mathematician Euler and philosopher Kant used to live long ago. Therefore, from their perspective, it would still be preferable for Russia to continue to squat upon what has become a veritable sh!thole than to have the industrious Germans eventually restore its main city to its former glory, perhaps erect a prosperous free-trade zone, and maintain a permanent presence there.

    Thirdly, it is evident that once Russia will have retreated from its illegal occupation of this territory, back to its own undisputed border, the Cold War in Europe will essentially be over, which also means that there will no longer be a case for maintaining the NATO military infrastructure. A continued US military presence will become obsolete, and popular public demand will force most countries to end their NATO alliance. Perhaps the Neo-Con establishment is afraid of such a development, yet it is up to Russia to bring this situation about. This ought to be obvious to Putin: If Russia genuinely wishes to live in peace with its European neighbors, none of which have expressed any desire to invade and occupy any Russian territory, the Russian military occupation of the Kaliningrad Oblast must end. The fact that he has refused to even publicly entertain abiding with such an obligation, much less proposed a comprehensive settlement on “face-saving” terms, should already serve as sufficient proof of him wanting to maintain an aggressive option.

    Fourthly, even if their were a genuine desire by key politicians and leaders to end the European Cold War, such a development of peace breaking out would be opposed by the formidable military-industrial complex and banking interests, who profit indirectly from continued tensions through lending to countries for increased military spending.

    For the reasons cited above, it would be sign of progress toward peace if Petras and many others within the alternative media to finally break the long running taboo on the unsettled Königsberg / Kaliningrad matter and begin to inform the largely ignorant public about the current, untenable status quo, and Russia’s obligations in accordance with international law. It should be obvious to anyone that Russia’s leaders would have no interest to blow up the world — including themselves — for the sake of continuing to hold onto their illegally occupied sh!thole.

    Furthermore, one needs to delineate between Germany having formally refrained (under duress) from making an explicit claim to retaking this territory and the fact that they have not refused the option to do so once it were to be vacated by Russia. Given Germany’s historical and legal right to establish future sovereignty over much of this territory, most prominently the city of Königsberg, by virtue of having failed to agree to its transfer to another sovereign entity, a formal claim is not necessary because their administrative rights would revert to Germany by default. Ultimately, it is up to Germany and Lithuania to agree to the borders between their two countries: the future roles played by Russia and Poland are secondary in the context of developing an orderly transition.

    In the meantime, so long as Putin maintains his aggressive posture, Russia will remain a threat a threat to Europe, particular its Nordic countries and Central Europe, and NATO forces would be morally and legally on the right side of history to kick the Russian military out by subterfuge or force from their illegally annexed enclave.

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    some of what you write is interesting, but then

    In the meantime, so long as Putin maintains his aggressive posture
     
    with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an "aggressive posture", rather that's been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can't see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you're simply blinded by your ideological agendas.

    Putin allowed the psychotic zio-west to destroy everything in its zio-path, until he saw what was done to Libya. And then he put the kibosh on them doing it to Syria.

    He is the remaining adult, even statesman on the world's stage. And we all should be very, very grateful that he's there.

    Should he reach out to the Baltic states for rapprochement, and do more to repudiate the crimes of the Soviets? Hell yes!

    but for now, it's enough that he's keeping the Fiend at bay. Because I promise you, if the Fiend were to be unleashed on the planet in the unilateral way it demands, there isn't one Gentile standing that would come away unscathed. Estonia (and Ukraine and Latvia, etc...) simply don't understand the nature of the (((West)))) today, or they'd be making much nicer with Putin, warts and all.

    , @Anonymous
    Poland has a stronger claim to Königsberg than Germany. Or do you want to go back even farther and give it back to the Lithuania? That piece of clay has been conquered and held by a dozen different nations in the past 500 years including the Russian empire. Since Germany's claim to that territory is also based on military conquest it seems odd to complain when another nation does the same thing. Its even stranger to complain about losing territory after WWII. Think of it as an arsehole tax for what Germany did on its eastern front.
    , @jacques sheete

    Quote by Petras:

    Russia is not a threat to the West: it is recovering its sovereignty in order to further a multi-polar world. President Putin is not an “aggressor” but he refuses to allow Russia to return to vassalage.
     
    These false premises or conclusions...
     
    Thanks for saving me the trouble of reading your wordy baloney. After reading that drivel, I stopped. There is nothing false about the concept that Russia is not a threat to the West.

    Significant portions of the "West," however, are threats to Russia and other large portions of the planet, so you got it entirely bass ackwards.

    , @Philip Owen
    The Queen of England made a speech about Kaliningrad on her last state visit to Germany. See here https://waleseuroperussiafuture.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/the-queen-on-europe-what-mail-and.html
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  44. annamaria says:

    The emerging degree of incompetence of the UK security apparatus is stunning — as well as the degree of the dishonesty of the UK “leaders.” They all look like fools and some also look like clumsy liars and malicious opportunists.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/u-k-is-lying-if-skripal-was-poisoned-at-his-home-the-agent-used-against-him-cannot-be-novichok/5634615

    “If Sergey and Julia Skripal were poisoned in front of their house, then they wouldn’t have been able to walk through Salisbury. Thus, this fact completely excludes the use of nerve agent Novichok.
    The earlier report that Skripal and his daughter had been attacked while sitting on a bench at a shopping mall has also been refuted by Scotland Yard (GR Editor).
    Scotland Yard detectives came to a conclusion that Sergey Skripal and his daughter were poisoned at their house. A particularly high concentration of agent was detected at the entrance door. If Skripal was poisoned at his home, then the agent used against him cannot be a nerve gas.
    A number of experts believe that such gases can kill people within a few minutes. Skripal simply did not have time to walk to a restaurant or shopping center, where he was eventually found.
    … More likely the victims received an overdose of painkillers that are used for anesthesia.”

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    Perhaps something absorbable through the skin that is extremely powerful, like carfentanil, 100 times for powerful than fentanyl. Dilute enough that the effect might not be instantaneous?

    http://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2017/06/08/carfentanil-opioid-found-in-mass

    But then, the whole topic of the "poisoning" of the Skripals is unanswerable given that the British are largely non-compliant with the legitimate requests for verification through "samples" (whose chain of custody is itself unverifiable). Perhaps that it took so long for them to permit the OPCW so long to gain access to blood samples directly extracted by the OPCW personnel is down to the gradual degradation of traces of whatever has degraded past the point of being detectable.

    A good and careful series of posts on the Skripal situation (with older posts in the series linked at the bottom of this most recent post) from Bernhard at this blog Moon of Alabama:

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/novifog-in-fleet-street-truth-cut-off.html#more
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  45. @Miro23

    Donald J. Trump‏@realDonaldTrump 21 mar.

    I called President Putin of Russia to congratulate him on his election victory (in past, Obama called him also). The Fake News Media is crazed because they wanted me to excoriate him. They are wrong! Getting along with Russia (and others) is a good thing, not a bad thing.......
     
    And then he appoints Bolton as National Security Advisor??

    So maybe Russia gets separated from Syria/Iran prior to them being attacked - or maybe Trump supports the Neocons, or maybe he is is sowing confusion among them - or maybe he doesn't have a clue what he is doing?

    Personally, I think that he's being blackmailed, and is kicking around as much as possible while doing what he's told.

    You assume trump has a clue about what Bolton is about, Trumps doesnt read sticky notes so he has no clue about anything some (((neocon))) tells him hire bolton hes just like you he hires him, trumps got no context for the trump doctrine its all based on his resentment of the japs buying rock center in the 80s.It doesnt help that he is way outside the uniparty so he cant find anyone with experience to work for him ideologically let alone the problem of his personality disorder and all the rest. I suppose he could ask past buchanan imagine that uproar

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  46. Rurik says:
    @Randal

    The single biggest unexplained mystery about the Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly
     
    Obviously the answer to that question is that the UK regime, or those behind it, chose to push it. The question that's troubling me at the moment is what is the end game for the UK regime and/or other interested parties? As the whole thing falls apart so easily, it appears there was less and less substance behind it.

    Did they really believe they could sustain their campaign long term based upon pure fabrication, bluster and bullshit? Is this really all there is to it, or is there some kind of follow up still to come?

    Because at the moment it just looks like rank incompetent stupidity on their part, and I'm always wary of underestimating the enemy. If they had achieved something big that they might have thought worthwhile at the cost of being humiliated, as the neocons achieved the final destruction of one of Israel's rivals at the cost of being discredited, with the Iraq War, it might make some sense, but there seems no long term goal achieved here - nothing but some political and diplomatic gains that will likely be reversed and more as the consequences unfold.

    It worries me when my enemies suddenly appear so laughably incompetent and ineffectual.

    Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly

    it’s MH17 redux

    or just take any of their lies, like London 7/7, or the ‘sexed up dossier’, or the “suicide” of David Kelly…

    Did they really believe they could sustain their campaign long term based upon pure fabrication, bluster and bullshit?

    is Tony Blair in prison at the Hague?

    or running around the world pretending not to be a war criminal, and trying to stop Brexit with one hand, while jerking off his masters with the other..

    Cancelling Brexit is getting “more likely”, former Prime Minister Tony Blair claimed today. The ex-Labour leader told the BBC: “It’s not too late until we …

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/cancelling-brexit-getting-more-likely-12270686

    Tony Blair: UK Labour leadership must root out anti-Semitism completely

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/tony-blair-uk-labour-leadership-must-root-out-anti-semitism-completely/

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    Of course an Israeli newspaper, or what it is, wants antisemitism rooted out, in plain words: any criticism of Israel, or of jews, must be rooted out.
    War criminal Tony B-liar is still a well paid envoy for an Israeli Palestinian peace process that does not exist.
    His job is to keep the smoke screen in place.
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  47. Alfa158 says:

    Another silly but not insignificant reason for the hostility is the cultural divergence from the West. Russia generally does not allow activities such as gay pride parades and gay proselytizing. Another divergence is that Russia seems to have become more openly Christian since the fall of the Soviet Union. Very triggering, goys.
    Although China may be a more serious challenge, Russia is a better target. She has a smaller population, weaker economy, smaller industrial base and is mostly Christian and White so she’s a politically acceptable enemy. Unlike China, Russia is not the primary supplier of manufactured goods to the West so you can isolate and embargo her without collapsing the West’s consumer economies.

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  48. Hmm. It looks like Petras has opted to rather disingenuously circumnavigate any real discussion of the historical pretext for the Jewnited Kingdom, European Jewnion, and the Jewnited States of America’s ongoing fixation with Russia.

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    Yup, and the Jewnited States will ensure that all immigrants are let in. Then it will become the United States of Latin America, with the same folks continuing their control from behind the curtain.
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  49. @Rurik
    From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States)... this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."

    ~ Winston Churchill

    Russia went from 70 years of Jewish domination, terror, genocide and slavery - to then, overnight, they decided to become 'capitalists!' And so the Jewish supremacists that had been ravaging Russia, and humiliating her people, became the absolute owners of its resources and some of the richest men in the world. The people of Russia sank even deeper into despondency and despair. As now, there wasn't even the pretext of communism to prevent them from destitution and hunger. As Rothschild's agents bought the most luxurious yachts their ill-gotten, (looted from the Russian people) money could buy.

    I read this article and all I see is 'the US did that, and the UK did this', and the 'EU did that', and the 'US is doing this..'

    well guess what? I'm an American. I was born here and this is where I live. And in NO WAY is what is being done to Russia by the "Western" powers, in ANY WAY a benefit to the people of the United States. Just the opposite, in fact.

    To write an article about the intrigues between Russia and the (((West))), and leave out the GLAIRING motivations behind it all, is vile and gross dishonesty most foul.

    The people of England do not want hostilities with Russia.

    The people of the US do not want hostilities with Russia.

    The people of the EU do not want hostilities with Russia.

    It is the (((Satanic Fiend))) that is demanding we have hostilities with Russia, because Putin upset the Fiend's agenda vis-a-vis Syria, which they intended to fall apart like Libya, so they could steal the Golan Heights, and other criminal depravity. Duh!

    The people of Russia and the people of the ZUSA and the people of England and France and Germany and Venezuela and Ukraine, and basically the entire fucking planet, are all being dragged into these wars and belligerence by the exact same FIEND that forced the world into the world wars of the 20th century, and all to enslave the world's people, and genocide the best of Europa off the planet, and create Israel out of the ashes of Europe and Russia.

    And it's this exact same Fiend that is trying to do the exact same thing in this century too.

    which is why they perpetrated their 9/11 false flag pretext to that Satanic goal.

    This is why there is strife with Russia, because Putin is the only leader on the world's stage that isn't under the thrall of the Jewish, Rothschild banking Fiend.

    duh.

    all else is distraction from the truth. Pretending that "the US" is acting in the interests of the people of the US, is flagrant, bold-faced lying. It deserves the 'Walter Duranty Award' for lying in the sniveling, sycophantic service of the Fiend.

    The people of Europe and Russia suffered an unimaginably horrific catastrophe in the last century. Some 65+ millions souls died, often in horrific and barbarous ways. And it was all contrived and set in motion by Bolshevik and Zionist banksters, with a genocidal hatred for the people of the West/Russia.

    To pretend like that didn't happen, and it has nothing to do with what's happening again, is monstrous, beyond comprehension.

    It's like pretending that the Palestinians are angry for no reason. When you analyze a conflict by carefully ignoring the fundamental motivations and historic context.

    What people won't do for a few contemptuously tossed shekels, and the façade of "respectability".

    Perhaps I'm just tired of 'journalists' who ply their trade to misinform.

    This guy isn't worthy to lick Philip Giraldi's shoes.

    “Yup” to all!

    You’d think the brilliant, high IQ, chosen few would change their modus operandi once in a while just to keep us dumb goyim confused.

    On the other hand they seem to enjoy flaunting their depravity with impunity.

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    they seem to enjoy flaunting their depravity with impunity.
     
    they only have impunity because of the infinite well of moral cowardice and venality from the 'journalists' of the West.

    it's the difference between Joseph Sobran and William Buckley.

    Sobran was an honorable man and journalist of integrity, and would not compromise his soul for a few shekels more.

    Buckley was a whore*, and a corrupt stooge of the PTB, so long as he got to have his ugly mug on ((TV)), and be lauded as an 'intellectual'. Just like George Will and the rest of the sniveling rats, who'd toss your children into the fires of zio-wars, and see them burn, for a few shekels more to clink in their pockets.

    *with apologies to street whores and crack addicted prostitutes who're a million times more decent and honorable than the likes of Buckley, Will and all the other rotten scum who lie and shill for the forces of evil, if that's where the bread is buttered.
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  50. Rurik says:
    @Been_there_done_that
    Quote by Petras:
    Russia is not a threat to the West: it is recovering its sovereignty in order to further a multi-polar world. President Putin is not an “aggressor” but he refuses to allow Russia to return to vassalage.

    These false premises or conclusions are superficially achieved by ignoring the proverbial elephant in the room, which in this case happens to be the continued illegal occupation by Russia of the Königsberg region, also known as the Kaliningrad Oblast, located between Poland and Lithuania in the Baltic Sea. Unlike Crimea, which was reunified with Russia four years ago, the Königsberg region was never a part of Russia. It is important to understand that neither Britain nor the USA ever agreed to the transfer of this territory to the USSR at the Potsdam Conference, in the summer of 1945, nor thereafter at the so-called "Final Agreement" treaty with Germany in 1990. The Cold War in Europe will continue until Russia finally evacuates this occupied region, named after Mikhail Kalinin, a mass murderer under Stalin. (Note that Leningrad and Stalingrad were renamed long ago.)

    Russian leaders and professional propagandists should know very well that their ongoing occupation ("administration") of this Stalinist enclave has no legitimacy under international law, just as Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Jerusalem is illegal. This is why, as Petras and many others, they never mention this issue rather than explicitly lying about it. After the three Baltic republics of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania had regained their independence from the USSR, Gorbachev attempted to "sell" this territory to Germany at least a couple of times during the early 1990s, once reportedly for 70 billion DM, later for 48 billion DM, yet this was presumptuous on his part because he was obliged to vacate the region because it never belonged to the USSR or Russia in the first place. Over the years this Kaliningrad enclave has degenerated to a dilapidated state and has essentially become one large military base harboring a naval fleet and numerous missiles pointed toward Europe and posing a real threat. There is no other purpose for Russia holding on to this territory except to maintain an aggressive posture against Europe, especially toward the three Baltic republics.

    As was witnessed as recently as early last month at a public election rally in Kaliningrad, Vladimir Putin again expressed his dissatisfaction at the breakup of the USSR and signaled a desire to reverse it if he could.

    Source Link:
    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201803031062180213-putin-private-life-secrets/
    Quote:
    When asked the outcome of which historic event he would alter if he had the ability to do so, the Russian leader replied: "The breakup of the Soviet Union."

    The Russian war games in Belarus a few months ago can have had no other purpose except to practice a surprise land attack to bifurcate the border between Poland and Lithuania, which were a Commonwealth centuries ago. Only about 44 miles separate Belarus from the occupied region of Königsberg; cutting off the three Baltic republics (which all use the euro as their official currency) from the rest of Europe would be a prelude toward possible re-occupation, presumably under the concocted pretext of needing to protect the Russian-speaking minority from threat or harassment, basically the same type of guise under which GHW Bush invaded Panama. Since Russia has no right to hold onto the Kaliningrad region, it would be perfectly legitimate for a NATO expedition, led by German and Lithuanian forces, to reclaim this territory and kick out the Russian military forces, plus their naval vessels, missiles, and their families in an orderly manner. The occasional hysteria one occasionally hears or reads about NATO troops allegedly at Russia's border pertains to this ongoing territorial conflict, which appears to be a big taboo to highlight.

    An excellent example of how taboo this issue actually is was highlighted in a Bloomberg interview of Putin in September 2016 by John Micklethwait, who raised the topic of border disputes, foremost among them Russian disputes with China and Japan. Micklethwait briefly also alluded to Kaliningrad but then apologized (said he was only joking) for this mention as soon as Putin proceeded to address this topic in a transparently nonsensical and highly disingenuous manner. Putin thus falsely claimed the matter was a Pandora's Box and attempted to link this basic dispute with post World War II border issues between Hungary and Romania or Poland and Ukraine, as if these issues were somehow a matter involving Russia, or these other countries were incapable of settling such issues bilaterally. (This interview can be found on YouTube.)

    Source Link:
    www.stalkerzone.org/putins-response-western-elite-bloomberg-interview/

    Another example of the taboo nature of alluding to the still unresolved Königsberg / Kaliningrad issue is that the the USA and Europe politicians and television media will howl loudly about such fait-accompli topics as the Crimean unification with Russia through two fair elections or ridiculous fabrications, such as "meddling" in American elections or as a recent staged poison attack in Britain but evade discussion the real issue of Russia's ongoing presence in the Baltic region adjoining Poland and Lithuania, neither of which countries it shares a border with. A few reasons would come to mind:

    Firstly, publicly pressing Russia to quit its illegal occupation in the Baltic region, while encouraging Israel to continue its occupation of the West Bank and Jerusalem with generous funding, would expose the USA to additional loud charges of utter hypocrisy. (Conversely, those in the alternative media, who criticize the Israeli occupation and support the boycott-disinvestment-sanction movement while on the other hand tacitly supporting the ongoing manifestation of what came about as a consequence of Stalinist terrorism against a civilian population of Prussians, by remaining silent about the illegal Russian occupation, are effectively being hypocritical.)

    Secondly, though it is no secret that the leading functionaries within the US Neo-Con establishment operating in the DC Beltway regularly project their visceral animosity toward Russia for historical reasons, for analogous reasons they harbor an even stronger resentment toward Germany and Lithuania, both of which would be the rightful administrators of this territory after Russia eventually vacates it -- the latter in the rural areas surrounding the historic German city of Königsberg, where the mathematician Euler and philosopher Kant used to live long ago. Therefore, from their perspective, it would still be preferable for Russia to continue to squat upon what has become a veritable sh!thole than to have the industrious Germans eventually restore its main city to its former glory, perhaps erect a prosperous free-trade zone, and maintain a permanent presence there.

    Thirdly, it is evident that once Russia will have retreated from its illegal occupation of this territory, back to its own undisputed border, the Cold War in Europe will essentially be over, which also means that there will no longer be a case for maintaining the NATO military infrastructure. A continued US military presence will become obsolete, and popular public demand will force most countries to end their NATO alliance. Perhaps the Neo-Con establishment is afraid of such a development, yet it is up to Russia to bring this situation about. This ought to be obvious to Putin: If Russia genuinely wishes to live in peace with its European neighbors, none of which have expressed any desire to invade and occupy any Russian territory, the Russian military occupation of the Kaliningrad Oblast must end. The fact that he has refused to even publicly entertain abiding with such an obligation, much less proposed a comprehensive settlement on "face-saving" terms, should already serve as sufficient proof of him wanting to maintain an aggressive option.

    Fourthly, even if their were a genuine desire by key politicians and leaders to end the European Cold War, such a development of peace breaking out would be opposed by the formidable military-industrial complex and banking interests, who profit indirectly from continued tensions through lending to countries for increased military spending.

    For the reasons cited above, it would be sign of progress toward peace if Petras and many others within the alternative media to finally break the long running taboo on the unsettled Königsberg / Kaliningrad matter and begin to inform the largely ignorant public about the current, untenable status quo, and Russia's obligations in accordance with international law. It should be obvious to anyone that Russia's leaders would have no interest to blow up the world -- including themselves -- for the sake of continuing to hold onto their illegally occupied sh!thole.

    Furthermore, one needs to delineate between Germany having formally refrained (under duress) from making an explicit claim to retaking this territory and the fact that they have not refused the option to do so once it were to be vacated by Russia. Given Germany's historical and legal right to establish future sovereignty over much of this territory, most prominently the city of Königsberg, by virtue of having failed to agree to its transfer to another sovereign entity, a formal claim is not necessary because their administrative rights would revert to Germany by default. Ultimately, it is up to Germany and Lithuania to agree to the borders between their two countries: the future roles played by Russia and Poland are secondary in the context of developing an orderly transition.

    In the meantime, so long as Putin maintains his aggressive posture, Russia will remain a threat a threat to Europe, particular its Nordic countries and Central Europe, and NATO forces would be morally and legally on the right side of history to kick the Russian military out by subterfuge or force from their illegally annexed enclave.

    some of what you write is interesting, but then

    In the meantime, so long as Putin maintains his aggressive posture

    with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an “aggressive posture”, rather that’s been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can’t see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you’re simply blinded by your ideological agendas.

    Putin allowed the psychotic zio-west to destroy everything in its zio-path, until he saw what was done to Libya. And then he put the kibosh on them doing it to Syria.

    He is the remaining adult, even statesman on the world’s stage. And we all should be very, very grateful that he’s there.

    Should he reach out to the Baltic states for rapprochement, and do more to repudiate the crimes of the Soviets? Hell yes!

    but for now, it’s enough that he’s keeping the Fiend at bay. Because I promise you, if the Fiend were to be unleashed on the planet in the unilateral way it demands, there isn’t one Gentile standing that would come away unscathed. Estonia (and Ukraine and Latvia, etc…) simply don’t understand the nature of the (((West)))) today, or they’d be making much nicer with Putin, warts and all.

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    ...with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an “aggressive posture”, rather that’s been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can’t see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you’re simply blinded by your ideological agendas.
     

    Your whole comment bears repeating, again.

    For the sake of brevity, I'll just repeat this for now.:


    ...with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an “aggressive posture”, rather that’s been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can’t see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you’re simply blinded by your ideological agendas.
     

    Why do these concepts need to be explained?
    , @Anonymous

    Because I promise you, if the Fiend were to be unleashed on the planet in the unilateral way it demands, there isn’t one Gentile standing that would come away unscathed. Estonia (and Ukraine and Latvia, etc…) simply don’t understand the nature of the (((West)))) today, or they’d be making much nicer with Putin, warts and all.
     
    Well said.
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  51. gwynedd1 says:
    @Anonymous

    Predictably left out by Petras, “that shitty little country”.
     
    It’s all about that pseudo-country, Israel. The major Russophobia started when Russia stepped in in Syria to thwart the (((globalists’))) plans. Then as a response to this you had (((Victoria Nuland))) instigate a regime change in Ukraine to undermine Russia and initiated a predictable and unimaginative series of false flags and financial manipulations (the preferred weapon and tool of the devil’s salespeople).

    Agreed. It was all about Syria. Although the seeds to Syria were set when Russia stopped the Georgia operation. Russia knew where it stood with the globalists. It was to die quietly or face retribution.

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  52. “Poverty was sharply reduced and Western backed gangster capitalists were constrained, jailed or fled mostly to the UK and the US.”

    The “Russian” oligarchs fled mostly the UK and Israel. I understand your confusion, however, as it’s easy to mistake one for the other. It’s easier if you remember Israel controls its borders and kicks out interlopers, while the US must accept the world to its shores.

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  53. @Rurik
    some of what you write is interesting, but then

    In the meantime, so long as Putin maintains his aggressive posture
     
    with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an "aggressive posture", rather that's been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can't see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you're simply blinded by your ideological agendas.

    Putin allowed the psychotic zio-west to destroy everything in its zio-path, until he saw what was done to Libya. And then he put the kibosh on them doing it to Syria.

    He is the remaining adult, even statesman on the world's stage. And we all should be very, very grateful that he's there.

    Should he reach out to the Baltic states for rapprochement, and do more to repudiate the crimes of the Soviets? Hell yes!

    but for now, it's enough that he's keeping the Fiend at bay. Because I promise you, if the Fiend were to be unleashed on the planet in the unilateral way it demands, there isn't one Gentile standing that would come away unscathed. Estonia (and Ukraine and Latvia, etc...) simply don't understand the nature of the (((West)))) today, or they'd be making much nicer with Putin, warts and all.

    …with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an “aggressive posture”, rather that’s been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can’t see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you’re simply blinded by your ideological agendas.

    Your whole comment bears repeating, again.

    For the sake of brevity, I’ll just repeat this for now.:

    …with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an “aggressive posture”, rather that’s been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can’t see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you’re simply blinded by your ideological agendas.

    Why do these concepts need to be explained?

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    Why do these concepts need to be explained?
     
    The people of Eastern Europe, especially the Baltic states, are still reeling from the evils of the Soviet terror.

    they see the West as a bulwark against a resurgent Russia again marching across their borders.

    Russia, unlike Germany, never really did a mea culpa vis-a-vis the crimes of the Soviets. They like to pretend that they 'liberated' Eastern Europe and saved the world from Nazism/fascism. (conveniently forgetting the fact that Eastern Europe was enslaved by the Red Army rapists, and Soviet slavery, for generations).

    It's very much part of the narrative that bolsters their Russian egos, especially the ultra-nationalistic (too much testosterone / too little rumination) Russian men. Chest-thumping their way into war with NATO, because that narrative is so imperative to their vanity. They're unable to be as reflective as say, you or I, and admit that our country is being used like a cheap whore by the Fiend/Bolsheviks/Zionist$.

    But Putin is a statesman and a great man, and recently told Germany that Germans are not evil people.

    That is the kind of rapprochement that is needed to mollify the respective Eastern European and Baltic states. Who look at the ZUSA as being a Disney Land, if only their daughters too could twerk like Miley Cyrus and be on TV, then they too could be happy.

    for otherwise smart people, they sometimes seem as dumb as posts.

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  54. Why the UK, the EU and the US Gang-Up on Russia

    I’ll tell why. It’s the same reason they gang up on Syria and Trump cucks to the Fiend in Chief.

    Trump Call With Netanyahu ‘Tense’ Over Plans to Leave Syria
    Netanyahu objected to US leaving Syria

    Netanyahu had loudly objected to Trump’s talk of withdrawing US troops from Syria.

    -Jason Ditz Posted onApril 5, 2018CategoriesNewsTagsIsrael, Syria, Trump

    https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/05/trump-call-with-netanyahu-tense-over-plans-to-leave-syria/

    OK, Boss!

    No need to wonder if Trump wears baggy pants.

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  55. robt says:

    May was a Remainer until becoming the Prime Minister, now given the responsibility to guide Britain through the Brexit process, which seems to be taking an awful long time to achieve even distant targeted results. She makes conspiracy theory charges in Parliament, and snuggles up to the EU for support against the nasty Russians. Her leadership is (was?) also in deep trouble.
    Boris was a Brexit supporter, an aspirant to being Prime Minister but lost to May. He amplifies and fabricates from whole cloth further conspiracy theories and outright fabrications against nasty Russia, the most egregious of which is deleted from the Foreign Ministry’s Twitter thread after being proved false by the government’s own research facility (which was quoted by Boris as having ‘conclusive’ evidence).
    Foreign Ministers do not speak without instruction.
    Now who is to be hung out to dry as this whole scheme falls to pieces? Who is behind the scheme in the first place? And why has Jeremy Corbyn, the potential candidate to form the next government been demonised by the media, the government, and various organizations in coordinated attacks in the past few weeks?

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    And why has Jeremy Corbyn, the potential candidate to form the next government been demonized by the media, the government, and various organizations in coordinated attacks in the past few weeks?
     
    That's not too difficult. He was one of the few who refused to immediately condemn the Russians in the Skripal case, calling first for an investigation. The MSM labeled him a traitor, but the public are clearly (and amazingly) going the other way in favoring Putin over May, and they are drawing parallels with Tony Blair and the lies of WMD. Interestingly, these are Daily Mail readers who usually have no time for Corbyn or the traditional left, so they are giving this issue a lot of importance.

    And Corbyn has for years stood up publically for the Palestinians, which is an unforgiveable crime in MSM land, and puts him under constant attack.
    , @annamaria
    "And why has Jeremy Corbyn, the potential candidate to form the next government been demonised by the media, the government, and various organizations in coordinated attacks in the past few weeks?"
    Because the Friends of Israel in the UK have ordered so.
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  56. renfro says:
    @Miro23
    If Trump is being blackmailed, he doesn't make a very good blackmail candidate.

    No doubt they've done a lot of digging on him, and there's a lot there to find.

    The problem from their POV (Deep State) is that 1) he's old and may not care 2) he's not a long time political careerist like Obama or the typical Congressman - he's not really in the system 3) he doesn't like to lose - and being blackmailed is losing 4) he's aware that he has independent support with the public - and that the public doesn't at all like Washington.

    The risk for Deep State blackmailers is that he comes clean about it, bypassing the MSM and publically outing them. Who will the US public believe? Trump or the MSM?

    The risk for Deep State blackmailers is that he comes clean about it, bypassing the MSM and publically outing them. Who will the US public believe? Trump or the MSM?

    If Trump is being blackmailed its most likely about him being aware that the Russian buyers of his properties were buying for the purpose of money laundering.
    Even “if” Trump didn’t know it…and he would have to be dumber than a rock not to have known….any of Putin’s oligarchs could slip Mueller some info to implicate him. Or one of the Russians already indicted for money laundering could implicate Trump.
    That would put an end to Trump’s empire.

    That is why Mueller added a team of money laundering specialist to his team even before he was onto Manafort’s money laundering. The money laundering in real estate is an open secret, especially in NY.

    As far as women scandals go I don’t think anyone really cares… unless Kushner would tell people that Ivanka had an incestuous relationship with Trump….that would ruin him with his voters.

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  57. renfro says:
    @animalogic
    What a nasty pathetic joke the UK Tories have become !
    Its a nerve agent ! Its a Novochock of "a type developed by" the USSR = Russia. 6...10 times more powerful than VX etc, etc.
    And low & behold the "poison" is traced to Skipal's home door handle !
    So - contamination by this "military grade" nerve agent...& 3 or so hours later the father & daughter fall sick !
    Wow, they make there 70 odd year old Russians tough. You & I would have carked it by the front gate or letter box; them, they have a nice lunch first, a walk, a sit down first....
    Hooray, the UK is a world wanker...sorry, PLAYER again.

    If Russia had poisoned the Skipals they would be dead instead of just sick.
    Otoh if it was a false flag operation……well then…????

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  58. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete
    "Yup" to all!

    You'd think the brilliant, high IQ, chosen few would change their modus operandi once in a while just to keep us dumb goyim confused.

    On the other hand they seem to enjoy flaunting their depravity with impunity.

    they seem to enjoy flaunting their depravity with impunity.

    they only have impunity because of the infinite well of moral cowardice and venality from the ‘journalists’ of the West.

    it’s the difference between Joseph Sobran and William Buckley.

    Sobran was an honorable man and journalist of integrity, and would not compromise his soul for a few shekels more.

    Buckley was a whore*, and a corrupt stooge of the PTB, so long as he got to have his ugly mug on ((TV)), and be lauded as an ‘intellectual’. Just like George Will and the rest of the sniveling rats, who’d toss your children into the fires of zio-wars, and see them burn, for a few shekels more to clink in their pockets.

    *with apologies to street whores and crack addicted prostitutes who’re a million times more decent and honorable than the likes of Buckley, Will and all the other rotten scum who lie and shill for the forces of evil, if that’s where the bread is buttered.

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    "Buckley was a whore*, and a corrupt stooge of the PTB, so long as he got to have his ugly mug on ((TV)), and be lauded as an ‘intellectual’. Just like George Will and the rest of the sniveling rats, who’d toss your children into the fires of zio-wars, and see them burn, for a few shekels more to clink in their pockets."
    On point!
    , @jacques sheete

    Joseph Sobran
     
    Whoa! I admire damned few men and he was one of them. Jude Wanniski, too.
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  59. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    ...with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an “aggressive posture”, rather that’s been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can’t see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you’re simply blinded by your ideological agendas.
     

    Your whole comment bears repeating, again.

    For the sake of brevity, I'll just repeat this for now.:


    ...with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an “aggressive posture”, rather that’s been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can’t see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you’re simply blinded by your ideological agendas.
     

    Why do these concepts need to be explained?

    Why do these concepts need to be explained?

    The people of Eastern Europe, especially the Baltic states, are still reeling from the evils of the Soviet terror.

    they see the West as a bulwark against a resurgent Russia again marching across their borders.

    Russia, unlike Germany, never really did a mea culpa vis-a-vis the crimes of the Soviets. They like to pretend that they ‘liberated’ Eastern Europe and saved the world from Nazism/fascism. (conveniently forgetting the fact that Eastern Europe was enslaved by the Red Army rapists, and Soviet slavery, for generations).

    It’s very much part of the narrative that bolsters their Russian egos, especially the ultra-nationalistic (too much testosterone / too little rumination) Russian men. Chest-thumping their way into war with NATO, because that narrative is so imperative to their vanity. They’re unable to be as reflective as say, you or I, and admit that our country is being used like a cheap whore by the Fiend/Bolsheviks/Zionist$.

    But Putin is a statesman and a great man, and recently told Germany that Germans are not evil people.

    That is the kind of rapprochement that is needed to mollify the respective Eastern European and Baltic states. Who look at the ZUSA as being a Disney Land, if only their daughters too could twerk like Miley Cyrus and be on TV, then they too could be happy.

    for otherwise smart people, they sometimes seem as dumb as posts.

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    Present Russia is not Stalin's USSR, as present Turkey is not the Ottoman empire, of the asserted Armenian genocide.
    Likewise present Germany is not Hitler's Third Reich, alas Germans still do not understand that.
    But Putin did acknowledge the Katyn massacre.
    Do you want Putin to atone for the Ukrainian genocide, the Gulags, deportation of the Tartars, the mass murder on Russians who fought on the German side against Stalin, the thirties purges, what exactly do you want ?
    When does the USA make apologies for WWII, FDR's creation, or WWI, that would have been impossible without USA support ?
    Or the Spanish war, the terror on Cuba, the overthrows etc in latin America, and so on, and so forth.
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  60. @Rurik

    Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly

     

    it's MH17 redux

    or just take any of their lies, like London 7/7, or the 'sexed up dossier', or the "suicide" of David Kelly...

    Did they really believe they could sustain their campaign long term based upon pure fabrication, bluster and bullshit?
     
    is Tony Blair in prison at the Hague?

    or running around the world pretending not to be a war criminal, and trying to stop Brexit with one hand, while jerking off his masters with the other..

    Cancelling Brexit is getting "more likely", former Prime Minister Tony Blair claimed today. The ex-Labour leader told the BBC: "It's not too late until we …

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/cancelling-brexit-getting-more-likely-12270686

    Tony Blair: UK Labour leadership must root out anti-Semitism completely

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/tony-blair-uk-labour-leadership-must-root-out-anti-semitism-completely/

    Of course an Israeli newspaper, or what it is, wants antisemitism rooted out, in plain words: any criticism of Israel, or of jews, must be rooted out.
    War criminal Tony B-liar is still a well paid envoy for an Israeli Palestinian peace process that does not exist.
    His job is to keep the smoke screen in place.

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    War criminal Tony B-liar is still a well paid envoy for an Israeli Palestinian peace process that does not exist.
     
    for his 'sexed up dossier' and all the Iraqi lives lost to his treachery, he should be dancing at the end of a rope, not jetting around to schmooze with fellow war criminals.

    and you're right, having this guy act as an 'unbiased' negotiator for the Palestinians, is like having John McCain negotiate for the people of Donbas.
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  61. @Rurik

    Why do these concepts need to be explained?
     
    The people of Eastern Europe, especially the Baltic states, are still reeling from the evils of the Soviet terror.

    they see the West as a bulwark against a resurgent Russia again marching across their borders.

    Russia, unlike Germany, never really did a mea culpa vis-a-vis the crimes of the Soviets. They like to pretend that they 'liberated' Eastern Europe and saved the world from Nazism/fascism. (conveniently forgetting the fact that Eastern Europe was enslaved by the Red Army rapists, and Soviet slavery, for generations).

    It's very much part of the narrative that bolsters their Russian egos, especially the ultra-nationalistic (too much testosterone / too little rumination) Russian men. Chest-thumping their way into war with NATO, because that narrative is so imperative to their vanity. They're unable to be as reflective as say, you or I, and admit that our country is being used like a cheap whore by the Fiend/Bolsheviks/Zionist$.

    But Putin is a statesman and a great man, and recently told Germany that Germans are not evil people.

    That is the kind of rapprochement that is needed to mollify the respective Eastern European and Baltic states. Who look at the ZUSA as being a Disney Land, if only their daughters too could twerk like Miley Cyrus and be on TV, then they too could be happy.

    for otherwise smart people, they sometimes seem as dumb as posts.

    Present Russia is not Stalin’s USSR, as present Turkey is not the Ottoman empire, of the asserted Armenian genocide.
    Likewise present Germany is not Hitler’s Third Reich, alas Germans still do not understand that.
    But Putin did acknowledge the Katyn massacre.
    Do you want Putin to atone for the Ukrainian genocide, the Gulags, deportation of the Tartars, the mass murder on Russians who fought on the German side against Stalin, the thirties purges, what exactly do you want ?
    When does the USA make apologies for WWII, FDR’s creation, or WWI, that would have been impossible without USA support ?
    Or the Spanish war, the terror on Cuba, the overthrows etc in latin America, and so on, and so forth.

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    Do you want Putin to atone for the Ukrainian genocide, the Gulags, deportation of the Tartars, the mass murder on Russians who fought on the German side against Stalin, the thirties purges, what exactly do you want ?
     
    Perhaps it could go something like this...

    ~ I, Rurik, am now president of the United States, and for my inaugural speech, this is (in part) what I'd say:

    Fellow Americans, and people of the world. Please know that things are now going to be different. The USA will no longer engage in wars of aggression anywhere in the world. Indeed, we will repudiate them whenever and wherever they are waged. Also, we will be prosecuting all the war criminals we can get our hands on, starting with both former presidents Bush, president Obama, president Clinton, Madam Secretaries Albright and Clinton, and many, many throngs of war criminals who've besmirched the name of this nation, and her people, for the last time.

    Some of these people are too old, and their crimes too fogged over by the haze of time. But all the ones who've been guilty in recent decades, are going to be tried for crimes against humanity, and treason against the Constitution and people of this nation. And if found guilty, just as Bush the lessor, had Saddam hanged, then so too shall he hang, by the neck until dead, if found guilty by a jury of his peers- any average American citizen.

    Now as to the debts we Americans owe for the serial crimes that our government has committed.

    First off, we will hold to every treaty we've ever signed with any and all native American tribes. Lands will be returned, and reparations paid. This will be done by also respecting the property rights of those non-Amerindians who're living on land owned by Amerindians though no fault of their own. But this will not be as sweeping as many would like, because I can only answer to the crimes that have been committed in the last few decades.

    Then, as to the victims of America's (the ZUSA's) serial war crimes which were perpetrated in recent decades, (we're too late for the victims of WWI, and before), but as to the victims of ZUSA's more recent treachery and aggression:

    as to Vietnam, whereas fighting murderous commies is and always has been a laudable goal, in the case of Vietnam, it is too easy to argue that the US was simply trying to continue the colonialism of the French, and that atrocities were committed, and lies were told.

    We're sincerely, very, very sorry about that. I say that as president to all the Vietnamese victims of that illegal war, just as I apologize on behalf the US government, for all the young American men who died. May God have mercy on all their souls.

    >>><<>><<<

    You know, I could go on, and on. There's a lot of healing to be done, because what the ZUS government has done in Palestine in particular, is so beyond the pale of human decency, that I'd have trouble finding the words.

    What was done to Germany and Germans after the war..

    what was done, as you say, to the victims of Operation Keelhaul, makes be angry, and I sometime harbor a hatred for Perfidious Albion, who promised those men succor, only to hand them over to Stalin, and certain, if horrific deaths.

    I love the people of the UK, but God damn its leadership are demonic, if ever that word had meaning.

    So much evil has been wrought, I'd be at that podium for quite a while, I fear.

    But by doing so, it would in no way be a blight on the character of the American people, who're no more collectively guilty (at least the ones who voted for Trump and an end to all the insanity), than the people of Russia are for the crimes of the Soviet terror, perhaps most its victims of which were ethnic Russians.

    But just as the ZUSA today is under the thrall of the Fiend, so too was Russia during the Soviet madness, under the thrall of the same Fiend. And menacing the planet.

    By simply repudiating that horrible time, when the Red Army was raping its way across Eastern Europe, and genociding farmers for being successful farmers, and rounding up the Polish intelligentsia and putting bullets in the back of their necks, it would go a long way towards mollifying the people of those nations. Hungary already, having had such a terrible time under the Soviet madness, seems to be allied nicely with Putin's Russia.

    Just the picture of Putin shaking hands with Solzhenitsyn

    http://suzieqq.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/600-solzhenitsyn-21.jpg

    is one of my favorite picture of all time, because of what it means is possible

    more of that please!

    Putin's is doing it already, by recently telling Germans they're not a congenitally evil people. (I'm sure he pissed off the zio-scum with that one ; )

    Poland also should do it's part, and make nice with Germany and Russia.

    Ukraine too! It's past time for the Ukrainians to continue wallowing in hate. The Russians that collaborated with the Bolshevik Fiend to genocide their ancestors are all dead. The Russians alive today also lost loved ones to that mass insanity, the zio-WWII.

    I've read a bit about all of it, and all I keep coming back to is how unnecessary it all was, and contrived to sate an insatiable hatred that lurks in the banking houses.

    A hatred and demonic lust for slaughter and human misery that is driving the world to the brink again, in this century. My motivating principle for being here is that we should not let them get away with it, again.
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  62. Every word you say is true.

    The people of Eastern Europe, especially the Baltic states, are still reeling from the evils of the Soviet terror.

    they see the West as a bulwark against a resurgent Russia again marching across their borders.

    And that’s too bad, because we in the US are still reeling from it as well. The Red Terrors were largely made in the USA by a “special” group of Fiends with mostly stolen and extorted dollars.

    We’re still living with hypertrophied forms of war socialism introduced in WW1 and written in stone by the chosen few with the war criminal commie, FDR.

    As regards the economy,… Even before we entered [WW1], Congress passed the National Defense Act. It gave the president the authority, in time of war “or when war is imminent,” to place orders with private firms which would “take precedence over all other orders and contracts.” If the manufacturer refused to fill the order at a “reasonable price as determined by the Secretary of War,” the government was “authorized to take immediate possession of any such plant [and] … to manufacture therein … such product or material as may be required”; the private owner, meanwhile, would be “deemed guilty of a felony.”5

    Once war was declared, state power grew at a dizzying pace. The Lever Act alone put Washington in charge of the production and distribution of all food and fuel in the United States.

    https://mises.org/library/world-war-i-home-front

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    the government was “authorized to take immediate possession of any such plant [and] … to manufacture therein … such product or material as may be required”; the private owner, meanwhile, would be “deemed guilty of a felony.”5
     
    and they're still doing such crap, with their laws against the BDS movement

    they've had their fang$ deep in the jugular of this nation for a very, very long time.

    Perhaps ever since they figured out a way to foist the African slave trade, which they profited off handsomely. And of course, their usury.

    Occasionally I'll watch a bit of Tucker Carlson, who'll never mention Israel on pain of death, but occasionally says things no one else would say.

    and he pointed out that some credit card companies are charging 28% interest on cards targeted to college kids

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=jeIcgBiCmfU

    They create this money out of thin air, and then loan it out at interest. Just that one simple fact, tells you all you need to know about what's wrong and why it may never get fixed.

    We must end the Fed, or their power of the purse will drag us all into their wars.

    all this handwringing over why May is blaming Putin for this false flag attack. When we all know why- because England had been under the thrall of the Fiend going back at least to the Boer war, when they invented actual death camps to kill off the families of the Dutch farmers- whose gold and diamonds ((De Beers and Oppenheimer)) coveted. And the Brits been sucking zio-butt ever since.

    If Rothschild farts, the queen and prime minister of England shove each other out of the way to be the first to sniff it. Lately being edged out by the Pope.
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  63. Z-man says:

    With creatures like May and Boris leading the ‘Conservative ‘ party Britain is finished unless Lafarge can make a political comeback. How about this?, a Lafarge-Galloway coalition. (Grin)
    Boris is what you get when cousins reproduce, lol.

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  64. @annamaria
    The emerging degree of incompetence of the UK security apparatus is stunning -- as well as the degree of the dishonesty of the UK "leaders." They all look like fools and some also look like clumsy liars and malicious opportunists.
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/u-k-is-lying-if-skripal-was-poisoned-at-his-home-the-agent-used-against-him-cannot-be-novichok/5634615
    "If Sergey and Julia Skripal were poisoned in front of their house, then they wouldn’t have been able to walk through Salisbury. Thus, this fact completely excludes the use of nerve agent Novichok.
    The earlier report that Skripal and his daughter had been attacked while sitting on a bench at a shopping mall has also been refuted by Scotland Yard (GR Editor).
    Scotland Yard detectives came to a conclusion that Sergey Skripal and his daughter were poisoned at their house. A particularly high concentration of agent was detected at the entrance door. If Skripal was poisoned at his home, then the agent used against him cannot be a nerve gas.
    A number of experts believe that such gases can kill people within a few minutes. Skripal simply did not have time to walk to a restaurant or shopping center, where he was eventually found.
    ... More likely the victims received an overdose of painkillers that are used for anesthesia."

    Perhaps something absorbable through the skin that is extremely powerful, like carfentanil, 100 times for powerful than fentanyl. Dilute enough that the effect might not be instantaneous?

    http://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2017/06/08/carfentanil-opioid-found-in-mass

    But then, the whole topic of the “poisoning” of the Skripals is unanswerable given that the British are largely non-compliant with the legitimate requests for verification through “samples” (whose chain of custody is itself unverifiable). Perhaps that it took so long for them to permit the OPCW so long to gain access to blood samples directly extracted by the OPCW personnel is down to the gradual degradation of traces of whatever has degraded past the point of being detectable.

    A good and careful series of posts on the Skripal situation (with older posts in the series linked at the bottom of this most recent post) from Bernhard at this blog Moon of Alabama:

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/novifog-in-fleet-street-truth-cut-off.html#more

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  65. Miro23 says:
    @robt
    May was a Remainer until becoming the Prime Minister, now given the responsibility to guide Britain through the Brexit process, which seems to be taking an awful long time to achieve even distant targeted results. She makes conspiracy theory charges in Parliament, and snuggles up to the EU for support against the nasty Russians. Her leadership is (was?) also in deep trouble.
    Boris was a Brexit supporter, an aspirant to being Prime Minister but lost to May. He amplifies and fabricates from whole cloth further conspiracy theories and outright fabrications against nasty Russia, the most egregious of which is deleted from the Foreign Ministry's Twitter thread after being proved false by the government's own research facility (which was quoted by Boris as having 'conclusive' evidence).
    Foreign Ministers do not speak without instruction.
    Now who is to be hung out to dry as this whole scheme falls to pieces? Who is behind the scheme in the first place? And why has Jeremy Corbyn, the potential candidate to form the next government been demonised by the media, the government, and various organizations in coordinated attacks in the past few weeks?

    And why has Jeremy Corbyn, the potential candidate to form the next government been demonized by the media, the government, and various organizations in coordinated attacks in the past few weeks?

    That’s not too difficult. He was one of the few who refused to immediately condemn the Russians in the Skripal case, calling first for an investigation. The MSM labeled him a traitor, but the public are clearly (and amazingly) going the other way in favoring Putin over May, and they are drawing parallels with Tony Blair and the lies of WMD. Interestingly, these are Daily Mail readers who usually have no time for Corbyn or the traditional left, so they are giving this issue a lot of importance.

    And Corbyn has for years stood up publically for the Palestinians, which is an unforgiveable crime in MSM land, and puts him under constant attack.

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  66. Rurik says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Of course an Israeli newspaper, or what it is, wants antisemitism rooted out, in plain words: any criticism of Israel, or of jews, must be rooted out.
    War criminal Tony B-liar is still a well paid envoy for an Israeli Palestinian peace process that does not exist.
    His job is to keep the smoke screen in place.

    War criminal Tony B-liar is still a well paid envoy for an Israeli Palestinian peace process that does not exist.

    for his ‘sexed up dossier’ and all the Iraqi lives lost to his treachery, he should be dancing at the end of a rope, not jetting around to schmooze with fellow war criminals.

    and you’re right, having this guy act as an ‘unbiased’ negotiator for the Palestinians, is like having John McCain negotiate for the people of Donbas.

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  67. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik
    some of what you write is interesting, but then

    In the meantime, so long as Putin maintains his aggressive posture
     
    with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an "aggressive posture", rather that's been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can't see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you're simply blinded by your ideological agendas.

    Putin allowed the psychotic zio-west to destroy everything in its zio-path, until he saw what was done to Libya. And then he put the kibosh on them doing it to Syria.

    He is the remaining adult, even statesman on the world's stage. And we all should be very, very grateful that he's there.

    Should he reach out to the Baltic states for rapprochement, and do more to repudiate the crimes of the Soviets? Hell yes!

    but for now, it's enough that he's keeping the Fiend at bay. Because I promise you, if the Fiend were to be unleashed on the planet in the unilateral way it demands, there isn't one Gentile standing that would come away unscathed. Estonia (and Ukraine and Latvia, etc...) simply don't understand the nature of the (((West)))) today, or they'd be making much nicer with Putin, warts and all.

    Because I promise you, if the Fiend were to be unleashed on the planet in the unilateral way it demands, there isn’t one Gentile standing that would come away unscathed. Estonia (and Ukraine and Latvia, etc…) simply don’t understand the nature of the (((West)))) today, or they’d be making much nicer with Putin, warts and all.

    Well said.

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  68. Ger says:
    @animalogic
    What a nasty pathetic joke the UK Tories have become !
    Its a nerve agent ! Its a Novochock of "a type developed by" the USSR = Russia. 6...10 times more powerful than VX etc, etc.
    And low & behold the "poison" is traced to Skipal's home door handle !
    So - contamination by this "military grade" nerve agent...& 3 or so hours later the father & daughter fall sick !
    Wow, they make there 70 odd year old Russians tough. You & I would have carked it by the front gate or letter box; them, they have a nice lunch first, a walk, a sit down first....
    Hooray, the UK is a world wanker...sorry, PLAYER again.

    1st Step: Test the door knob to make sure the nerve agent they planted can be detected.
    (How many guinea pigs were sacrificed getting the formula right?)

    2nd Step: Starve the dogs to death before they lick the door knob.

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  69. annamaria says:
    @robt
    May was a Remainer until becoming the Prime Minister, now given the responsibility to guide Britain through the Brexit process, which seems to be taking an awful long time to achieve even distant targeted results. She makes conspiracy theory charges in Parliament, and snuggles up to the EU for support against the nasty Russians. Her leadership is (was?) also in deep trouble.
    Boris was a Brexit supporter, an aspirant to being Prime Minister but lost to May. He amplifies and fabricates from whole cloth further conspiracy theories and outright fabrications against nasty Russia, the most egregious of which is deleted from the Foreign Ministry's Twitter thread after being proved false by the government's own research facility (which was quoted by Boris as having 'conclusive' evidence).
    Foreign Ministers do not speak without instruction.
    Now who is to be hung out to dry as this whole scheme falls to pieces? Who is behind the scheme in the first place? And why has Jeremy Corbyn, the potential candidate to form the next government been demonised by the media, the government, and various organizations in coordinated attacks in the past few weeks?

    “And why has Jeremy Corbyn, the potential candidate to form the next government been demonised by the media, the government, and various organizations in coordinated attacks in the past few weeks?”
    Because the Friends of Israel in the UK have ordered so.

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  70. annamaria says:
    @Rurik

    they seem to enjoy flaunting their depravity with impunity.
     
    they only have impunity because of the infinite well of moral cowardice and venality from the 'journalists' of the West.

    it's the difference between Joseph Sobran and William Buckley.

    Sobran was an honorable man and journalist of integrity, and would not compromise his soul for a few shekels more.

    Buckley was a whore*, and a corrupt stooge of the PTB, so long as he got to have his ugly mug on ((TV)), and be lauded as an 'intellectual'. Just like George Will and the rest of the sniveling rats, who'd toss your children into the fires of zio-wars, and see them burn, for a few shekels more to clink in their pockets.

    *with apologies to street whores and crack addicted prostitutes who're a million times more decent and honorable than the likes of Buckley, Will and all the other rotten scum who lie and shill for the forces of evil, if that's where the bread is buttered.

    “Buckley was a whore*, and a corrupt stooge of the PTB, so long as he got to have his ugly mug on ((TV)), and be lauded as an ‘intellectual’. Just like George Will and the rest of the sniveling rats, who’d toss your children into the fires of zio-wars, and see them burn, for a few shekels more to clink in their pockets.”
    On point!

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    Yup, you're spot-on on Buckley and Will.
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  71. Why are they ganging up on Russia?

    1 : They loved Russia when it was a tyrannical communistic pandemonia , and now they hate Russia because it has cast off Communism ( which they are still obcessed with).

    2 They hate Russia because it does not cater to gays.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

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    Absolutely excellent post.

    Of course, there are other reasons 'they' hate Russia. Putin proved with Chechnya that Russians still know how to deal with Moslems. Putin also made most of the Oligarchs (who were preponderantly Jewish) who stole Russia blind during the 1990s pay for their crimes.

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  72. Rurik says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Present Russia is not Stalin's USSR, as present Turkey is not the Ottoman empire, of the asserted Armenian genocide.
    Likewise present Germany is not Hitler's Third Reich, alas Germans still do not understand that.
    But Putin did acknowledge the Katyn massacre.
    Do you want Putin to atone for the Ukrainian genocide, the Gulags, deportation of the Tartars, the mass murder on Russians who fought on the German side against Stalin, the thirties purges, what exactly do you want ?
    When does the USA make apologies for WWII, FDR's creation, or WWI, that would have been impossible without USA support ?
    Or the Spanish war, the terror on Cuba, the overthrows etc in latin America, and so on, and so forth.

    Do you want Putin to atone for the Ukrainian genocide, the Gulags, deportation of the Tartars, the mass murder on Russians who fought on the German side against Stalin, the thirties purges, what exactly do you want ?

    Perhaps it could go something like this…

    ~ I, Rurik, am now president of the United States, and for my inaugural speech, this is (in part) what I’d say:

    Fellow Americans, and people of the world. Please know that things are now going to be different. The USA will no longer engage in wars of aggression anywhere in the world. Indeed, we will repudiate them whenever and wherever they are waged. Also, we will be prosecuting all the war criminals we can get our hands on, starting with both former presidents Bush, president Obama, president Clinton, Madam Secretaries Albright and Clinton, and many, many throngs of war criminals who’ve besmirched the name of this nation, and her people, for the last time.

    Some of these people are too old, and their crimes too fogged over by the haze of time. But all the ones who’ve been guilty in recent decades, are going to be tried for crimes against humanity, and treason against the Constitution and people of this nation. And if found guilty, just as Bush the lessor, had Saddam hanged, then so too shall he hang, by the neck until dead, if found guilty by a jury of his peers- any average American citizen.

    Now as to the debts we Americans owe for the serial crimes that our government has committed.

    First off, we will hold to every treaty we’ve ever signed with any and all native American tribes. Lands will be returned, and reparations paid. This will be done by also respecting the property rights of those non-Amerindians who’re living on land owned by Amerindians though no fault of their own. But this will not be as sweeping as many would like, because I can only answer to the crimes that have been committed in the last few decades.

    Then, as to the victims of America’s (the ZUSA’s) serial war crimes which were perpetrated in recent decades, (we’re too late for the victims of WWI, and before), but as to the victims of ZUSA’s more recent treachery and aggression:

    as to Vietnam, whereas fighting murderous commies is and always has been a laudable goal, in the case of Vietnam, it is too easy to argue that the US was simply trying to continue the colonialism of the French, and that atrocities were committed, and lies were told.

    We’re sincerely, very, very sorry about that. I say that as president to all the Vietnamese victims of that illegal war, just as I apologize on behalf the US government, for all the young American men who died. May God have mercy on all their souls.

    >>><<>><<<

    You know, I could go on, and on. There's a lot of healing to be done, because what the ZUS government has done in Palestine in particular, is so beyond the pale of human decency, that I'd have trouble finding the words.

    What was done to Germany and Germans after the war..

    what was done, as you say, to the victims of Operation Keelhaul, makes be angry, and I sometime harbor a hatred for Perfidious Albion, who promised those men succor, only to hand them over to Stalin, and certain, if horrific deaths.

    I love the people of the UK, but God damn its leadership are demonic, if ever that word had meaning.

    So much evil has been wrought, I’d be at that podium for quite a while, I fear.

    But by doing so, it would in no way be a blight on the character of the American people, who’re no more collectively guilty (at least the ones who voted for Trump and an end to all the insanity), than the people of Russia are for the crimes of the Soviet terror, perhaps most its victims of which were ethnic Russians.

    But just as the ZUSA today is under the thrall of the Fiend, so too was Russia during the Soviet madness, under the thrall of the same Fiend. And menacing the planet.

    By simply repudiating that horrible time, when the Red Army was raping its way across Eastern Europe, and genociding farmers for being successful farmers, and rounding up the Polish intelligentsia and putting bullets in the back of their necks, it would go a long way towards mollifying the people of those nations. Hungary already, having had such a terrible time under the Soviet madness, seems to be allied nicely with Putin’s Russia.

    Just the picture of Putin shaking hands with Solzhenitsyn

    is one of my favorite picture of all time, because of what it means is possible

    more of that please!

    Putin’s is doing it already, by recently telling Germans they’re not a congenitally evil people. (I’m sure he pissed off the zio-scum with that one ; )

    Poland also should do it’s part, and make nice with Germany and Russia.

    Ukraine too! It’s past time for the Ukrainians to continue wallowing in hate. The Russians that collaborated with the Bolshevik Fiend to genocide their ancestors are all dead. The Russians alive today also lost loved ones to that mass insanity, the zio-WWII.

    I’ve read a bit about all of it, and all I keep coming back to is how unnecessary it all was, and contrived to sate an insatiable hatred that lurks in the banking houses.

    A hatred and demonic lust for slaughter and human misery that is driving the world to the brink again, in this century. My motivating principle for being here is that we should not let them get away with it, again.

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    My speech would be shorter:

    To my fellow Americans , thank you for giving me the opportunity to serve you and our country.
    I give you in return my solemn promise to use all my power to return America to its founding ideals of justice, fairness and the pursuit of good lives for all Americans .

    To those who donated so much to my campaign for President; the Jews for Israel, the Bankers of Wall Street, the Oil companies, the Real Estate conglomerates and Hedge funds, the Military Industry Lobbyist, the Immigrant groups, the ideological lobbies, I want to thank you also but as you must understand all deals made with you in exchange for your money are now off, as the office of President and oath to the Constitution taken today will bar me from favoritism in US policy toward any foreign country, business, religion or group that could damage the common good of the nation.

    I ask all Americans to join with me today to make America strong, not just in its vast power but in the currency of world respect for its principles and values.

    We can do this. Thank you all.

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  73. Dacian says: • Website
    @Andrei Martyanov
    Excellent summary.

    With all due respect for your many interesting postings, I think, this narrative needs a major correction. The best summary is in the preface of a book “The New CommonWealth”:

    “For anyone who has followed closely the events in Eastern Europe for the past thirty years, the systematic absence of one possible scenario from the mainstream media dialog is baffling — namely that today’s Russian troubles may be only a shield behind which a more powerful regeneration is in progress. The New York Times Magazine, August 10, 1997, brings up one of many questions to which modern history awaits a convincing answer. On the occasion of former Defense Secretary McNamara’s revisiting Vietnam, it reminds us of one such unelucidated inconsistency: “If the reason [for the war in Vietnam] was to fight communism, why did the U.S. not help China in 1949, or why did the U.S. not help the Batista regime in Cuba in 1959?”
    There are indeed significant and puzzling inconsistencies in the story of the Soviet Union’s “collapse.” Consider the artfulness, bordering on the Machiavellian, and the lengthy effort that went into its demise and one has sufficient grounds for a different tale. The process of “collapse,” basically from 1983 on, came about as the country’s establishment applied blow after blow to the highly coherent and resilient Soviet system. The most intriguing aspect of this incredible series of events is that behind it was the political will of the elite — the Soviet elite who had decided that the Soviet system must be dismembered, while the so-called disgruntled masses played a minor role. That amounts, but only on a superficial look, to the impression that the elite itself might have voluntarily decided to dismantle and demobilize its own lines of defense and submit to a condition of servitude to the rest of the world. On the contrary, I am not only in agreement with Weir and Kotz and others who ascribe perestroika and the collapse of the Soviet system to the Soviet elite, but I suggest that today’s troubles are not a result of a failed perestroika but are only Phase II of perestroika. From socialism to capitalism and back to a superior form of socialism is how the old Marxist dialecticians would phrase it. By compromising both models— the old communist orthodoxy as well as the newer aspirant, casino capitalism—the power establishment makes it possible to bring the country safely back to socialist capitalism.

    But if one accepts this hypothesis, then it becomes the premise of an unsettling line of reasoning. The elite of the second most powerful corporation in the world, the Soviet Union, must have had a self-serving reason to take such risks and must as well have had the opportunity to reformulate its modus operandi.

    If this is so, the further implication would be that the “collapse” was possible not in reaction to a stronger U.S. but precisely because the other superpower also showed every sign of weakness and crisis so that it could not mount any credible offensive, economically or militarily, while the Soviet Union went through its own version of the Great Depression en route toward economic restructuring and political modernization.

    The most plausible interpretation of the series of international issues of the 1980s (the new economic assertiveness of Western Europe and Japan, the war in Afghanistan, the Iran-Iraq craze, the Solidarity movement in Poland, the world debt crisis, etc.) is that they were already setting the framework for a future covenant — “the new world order” — between the former superpowers, to their mutual advantage. That presupposes an early, even pre-1980, agreed armistice and rethinking of the exhausting confrontation.

    If Russia was in a position to let down its guard to the extent that we are witnessing today, it was only because it found itself not in a weak position but in the strongest military-strategic position in its history, free from imminent outside threat as enshrined at Helsinki in the 1975 Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe. Given its control of the world’s richest reserves of oil, gas, nuclear material, and raw materials, together with its educated professionals, an unmatched nuclear arsenal*, space technology leadership, etc. — all Russia needed was to repackage its system as a benevolent system, to make it into a soothing and attractive social and economic model, to launch a successful public relations scheme. To succeed at that would be worth the costs and the risks!

    From such a strategic viewpoint one may infer that the dismantling of the Soviet Union was only the first step of the former Soviet elite’s new policy of Soviet “market” outreach to the West as well as to the South.

    In the west, Western Europe today seems at its zenith, however, its fate may well have been determined by (1) its military emasculation (by the Treaty of European Conventional Arms Reduction, the 1988 Soviet-U.S. Intermediate Nuclear Forces agreement and START II) and (2) its dependency on Russian controlled oil and gas. In the south, oil producing Iran and Iraq, isolated by United States’ Middle East diplomacy, are quietly and slowly sliding further into the deadly embrace of the northern bear.**

    The centuries long Russian-Anglo-American love-hate relationship has been evolving dramatically from late 1978 until today, for sure. However, one might notice that it is being redesigned in such a way as to accommodate in the long run a more assertive, more successful and more powerful Russia overlording its European and southern peripheries.

    A first sketch of such an analysis I presented in 1992 at the ISA conference in Atlanta. For a more detailed analysis of the historical background, of the economic, military and political circumstances of such a probable scenario, you are invited to read the following pages.”

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  74. Moi says:
    @RealAmericanValuesCirca1776Not1965
    Hmm. It looks like Petras has opted to rather disingenuously circumnavigate any real discussion of the historical pretext for the Jewnited Kingdom, European Jewnion, and the Jewnited States of America's ongoing fixation with Russia.

    Yup, and the Jewnited States will ensure that all immigrants are let in. Then it will become the United States of Latin America, with the same folks continuing their control from behind the curtain.

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  75. Moi says:
    @annamaria
    "Buckley was a whore*, and a corrupt stooge of the PTB, so long as he got to have his ugly mug on ((TV)), and be lauded as an ‘intellectual’. Just like George Will and the rest of the sniveling rats, who’d toss your children into the fires of zio-wars, and see them burn, for a few shekels more to clink in their pockets."
    On point!

    Yup, you’re spot-on on Buckley and Will.

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  76. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete
    Every word you say is true.

    The people of Eastern Europe, especially the Baltic states, are still reeling from the evils of the Soviet terror.

    they see the West as a bulwark against a resurgent Russia again marching across their borders.
     

    And that's too bad, because we in the US are still reeling from it as well. The Red Terrors were largely made in the USA by a "special" group of Fiends with mostly stolen and extorted dollars.

    We're still living with hypertrophied forms of war socialism introduced in WW1 and written in stone by the chosen few with the war criminal commie, FDR.


    As regards the economy,... Even before we entered [WW1], Congress passed the National Defense Act. It gave the president the authority, in time of war "or when war is imminent," to place orders with private firms which would "take precedence over all other orders and contracts." If the manufacturer refused to fill the order at a "reasonable price as determined by the Secretary of War," the government was "authorized to take immediate possession of any such plant [and] … to manufacture therein … such product or material as may be required"; the private owner, meanwhile, would be "deemed guilty of a felony."5

    Once war was declared, state power grew at a dizzying pace. The Lever Act alone put Washington in charge of the production and distribution of all food and fuel in the United States.

    https://mises.org/library/world-war-i-home-front

     

    the government was “authorized to take immediate possession of any such plant [and] … to manufacture therein … such product or material as may be required”; the private owner, meanwhile, would be “deemed guilty of a felony.”5

    and they’re still doing such crap, with their laws against the BDS movement

    they’ve had their fang$ deep in the jugular of this nation for a very, very long time.

    Perhaps ever since they figured out a way to foist the African slave trade, which they profited off handsomely. And of course, their usury.

    Occasionally I’ll watch a bit of Tucker Carlson, who’ll never mention Israel on pain of death, but occasionally says things no one else would say.

    and he pointed out that some credit card companies are charging 28% interest on cards targeted to college kids

    They create this money out of thin air, and then loan it out at interest. Just that one simple fact, tells you all you need to know about what’s wrong and why it may never get fixed.

    We must end the Fed, or their power of the purse will drag us all into their wars.

    all this handwringing over why May is blaming Putin for this false flag attack. When we all know why- because England had been under the thrall of the Fiend going back at least to the Boer war, when they invented actual death camps to kill off the families of the Dutch farmers- whose gold and diamonds ((De Beers and Oppenheimer)) coveted. And the Brits been sucking zio-butt ever since.

    If Rothschild farts, the queen and prime minister of England shove each other out of the way to be the first to sniff it. Lately being edged out by the Pope.

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    ...because England had been under the thrall of the Fiend going back at least to the Boer war, when they invented actual death camps to kill off the families of the Dutch farmers- whose gold and diamonds ((De Beers and Oppenheimer)) coveted. And the Brits been sucking zio-butt ever since.
     
    I don't know much about the Boer war, and never knew what it was about but what you say makes perfect sense. You are correct about the death camps, and the Brits even had them in Kenya as late as the 1950s! What a pack of perverts!

    Perfidious Albion has a lot to answer for, and they haven't even begun to.

    This is from a short, succinct and informative pamphlet and it supports your claim, above.

    Henceforth, Britain will do the bidding of her real masters ; she has
    become the tool of the schemers
    against all she holds dear, namely, her
    faith, her patriotism, traditions, civilisation. She grants the “ returned ”
    aliens equality of civil rights ; they may and do become mayors over
    Christian population, and within a short time Britain is ruled by a
    Jewish Prime Minister, Disraeli, first and foremost a Jew and the
    flunkey of the powerful Rothschild financiers.

    One of the consequences of this disastrous political mistake is the
    transformation of the national attitude of Great Britain and her
    colonies into that of the British Empire. Disraeli who inspired it
    knew what he was scheming for, the British people did not. But with
    him, Zionism is carried up to the very heights of the British Throne, a
    Zionist World Empire is on the high road to realisation.

    -Leslie Fry, “the Jews and the British Empire,” 1935

    https://archive.org/stream/FryLeslieTheJewsAndTheBritishEmpire/Fry_Leslie_-_The_jews_and_the_British_Empire_djvu.txt

     

    , @Anonymous

    If Rothschild farts, the queen and prime minister of England shove each other out of the way to be the first to sniff it. Lately being edged out by the Pope.
     
    Lol! That was vivid.
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  77. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @Been_there_done_that
    Quote by Petras:
    Russia is not a threat to the West: it is recovering its sovereignty in order to further a multi-polar world. President Putin is not an “aggressor” but he refuses to allow Russia to return to vassalage.

    These false premises or conclusions are superficially achieved by ignoring the proverbial elephant in the room, which in this case happens to be the continued illegal occupation by Russia of the Königsberg region, also known as the Kaliningrad Oblast, located between Poland and Lithuania in the Baltic Sea. Unlike Crimea, which was reunified with Russia four years ago, the Königsberg region was never a part of Russia. It is important to understand that neither Britain nor the USA ever agreed to the transfer of this territory to the USSR at the Potsdam Conference, in the summer of 1945, nor thereafter at the so-called "Final Agreement" treaty with Germany in 1990. The Cold War in Europe will continue until Russia finally evacuates this occupied region, named after Mikhail Kalinin, a mass murderer under Stalin. (Note that Leningrad and Stalingrad were renamed long ago.)

    Russian leaders and professional propagandists should know very well that their ongoing occupation ("administration") of this Stalinist enclave has no legitimacy under international law, just as Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Jerusalem is illegal. This is why, as Petras and many others, they never mention this issue rather than explicitly lying about it. After the three Baltic republics of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania had regained their independence from the USSR, Gorbachev attempted to "sell" this territory to Germany at least a couple of times during the early 1990s, once reportedly for 70 billion DM, later for 48 billion DM, yet this was presumptuous on his part because he was obliged to vacate the region because it never belonged to the USSR or Russia in the first place. Over the years this Kaliningrad enclave has degenerated to a dilapidated state and has essentially become one large military base harboring a naval fleet and numerous missiles pointed toward Europe and posing a real threat. There is no other purpose for Russia holding on to this territory except to maintain an aggressive posture against Europe, especially toward the three Baltic republics.

    As was witnessed as recently as early last month at a public election rally in Kaliningrad, Vladimir Putin again expressed his dissatisfaction at the breakup of the USSR and signaled a desire to reverse it if he could.

    Source Link:
    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201803031062180213-putin-private-life-secrets/
    Quote:
    When asked the outcome of which historic event he would alter if he had the ability to do so, the Russian leader replied: "The breakup of the Soviet Union."

    The Russian war games in Belarus a few months ago can have had no other purpose except to practice a surprise land attack to bifurcate the border between Poland and Lithuania, which were a Commonwealth centuries ago. Only about 44 miles separate Belarus from the occupied region of Königsberg; cutting off the three Baltic republics (which all use the euro as their official currency) from the rest of Europe would be a prelude toward possible re-occupation, presumably under the concocted pretext of needing to protect the Russian-speaking minority from threat or harassment, basically the same type of guise under which GHW Bush invaded Panama. Since Russia has no right to hold onto the Kaliningrad region, it would be perfectly legitimate for a NATO expedition, led by German and Lithuanian forces, to reclaim this territory and kick out the Russian military forces, plus their naval vessels, missiles, and their families in an orderly manner. The occasional hysteria one occasionally hears or reads about NATO troops allegedly at Russia's border pertains to this ongoing territorial conflict, which appears to be a big taboo to highlight.

    An excellent example of how taboo this issue actually is was highlighted in a Bloomberg interview of Putin in September 2016 by John Micklethwait, who raised the topic of border disputes, foremost among them Russian disputes with China and Japan. Micklethwait briefly also alluded to Kaliningrad but then apologized (said he was only joking) for this mention as soon as Putin proceeded to address this topic in a transparently nonsensical and highly disingenuous manner. Putin thus falsely claimed the matter was a Pandora's Box and attempted to link this basic dispute with post World War II border issues between Hungary and Romania or Poland and Ukraine, as if these issues were somehow a matter involving Russia, or these other countries were incapable of settling such issues bilaterally. (This interview can be found on YouTube.)

    Source Link:
    www.stalkerzone.org/putins-response-western-elite-bloomberg-interview/

    Another example of the taboo nature of alluding to the still unresolved Königsberg / Kaliningrad issue is that the the USA and Europe politicians and television media will howl loudly about such fait-accompli topics as the Crimean unification with Russia through two fair elections or ridiculous fabrications, such as "meddling" in American elections or as a recent staged poison attack in Britain but evade discussion the real issue of Russia's ongoing presence in the Baltic region adjoining Poland and Lithuania, neither of which countries it shares a border with. A few reasons would come to mind:

    Firstly, publicly pressing Russia to quit its illegal occupation in the Baltic region, while encouraging Israel to continue its occupation of the West Bank and Jerusalem with generous funding, would expose the USA to additional loud charges of utter hypocrisy. (Conversely, those in the alternative media, who criticize the Israeli occupation and support the boycott-disinvestment-sanction movement while on the other hand tacitly supporting the ongoing manifestation of what came about as a consequence of Stalinist terrorism against a civilian population of Prussians, by remaining silent about the illegal Russian occupation, are effectively being hypocritical.)

    Secondly, though it is no secret that the leading functionaries within the US Neo-Con establishment operating in the DC Beltway regularly project their visceral animosity toward Russia for historical reasons, for analogous reasons they harbor an even stronger resentment toward Germany and Lithuania, both of which would be the rightful administrators of this territory after Russia eventually vacates it -- the latter in the rural areas surrounding the historic German city of Königsberg, where the mathematician Euler and philosopher Kant used to live long ago. Therefore, from their perspective, it would still be preferable for Russia to continue to squat upon what has become a veritable sh!thole than to have the industrious Germans eventually restore its main city to its former glory, perhaps erect a prosperous free-trade zone, and maintain a permanent presence there.

    Thirdly, it is evident that once Russia will have retreated from its illegal occupation of this territory, back to its own undisputed border, the Cold War in Europe will essentially be over, which also means that there will no longer be a case for maintaining the NATO military infrastructure. A continued US military presence will become obsolete, and popular public demand will force most countries to end their NATO alliance. Perhaps the Neo-Con establishment is afraid of such a development, yet it is up to Russia to bring this situation about. This ought to be obvious to Putin: If Russia genuinely wishes to live in peace with its European neighbors, none of which have expressed any desire to invade and occupy any Russian territory, the Russian military occupation of the Kaliningrad Oblast must end. The fact that he has refused to even publicly entertain abiding with such an obligation, much less proposed a comprehensive settlement on "face-saving" terms, should already serve as sufficient proof of him wanting to maintain an aggressive option.

    Fourthly, even if their were a genuine desire by key politicians and leaders to end the European Cold War, such a development of peace breaking out would be opposed by the formidable military-industrial complex and banking interests, who profit indirectly from continued tensions through lending to countries for increased military spending.

    For the reasons cited above, it would be sign of progress toward peace if Petras and many others within the alternative media to finally break the long running taboo on the unsettled Königsberg / Kaliningrad matter and begin to inform the largely ignorant public about the current, untenable status quo, and Russia's obligations in accordance with international law. It should be obvious to anyone that Russia's leaders would have no interest to blow up the world -- including themselves -- for the sake of continuing to hold onto their illegally occupied sh!thole.

    Furthermore, one needs to delineate between Germany having formally refrained (under duress) from making an explicit claim to retaking this territory and the fact that they have not refused the option to do so once it were to be vacated by Russia. Given Germany's historical and legal right to establish future sovereignty over much of this territory, most prominently the city of Königsberg, by virtue of having failed to agree to its transfer to another sovereign entity, a formal claim is not necessary because their administrative rights would revert to Germany by default. Ultimately, it is up to Germany and Lithuania to agree to the borders between their two countries: the future roles played by Russia and Poland are secondary in the context of developing an orderly transition.

    In the meantime, so long as Putin maintains his aggressive posture, Russia will remain a threat a threat to Europe, particular its Nordic countries and Central Europe, and NATO forces would be morally and legally on the right side of history to kick the Russian military out by subterfuge or force from their illegally annexed enclave.

    Poland has a stronger claim to Königsberg than Germany. Or do you want to go back even farther and give it back to the Lithuania? That piece of clay has been conquered and held by a dozen different nations in the past 500 years including the Russian empire. Since Germany’s claim to that territory is also based on military conquest it seems odd to complain when another nation does the same thing. Its even stranger to complain about losing territory after WWII. Think of it as an arsehole tax for what Germany did on its eastern front.

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    Since Germany’s claim to that territory is also based on military conquest it seems odd to complain when another nation does the same thing. Its even stranger to complain about losing territory after WWII.

    You appear to have absolutely no regard for the adherence to international laws and conventions. Even if that territory were to become a new and independent sovereign entity called East Prussia, with German, Lithuanian, and Polish being recognized as official languages, the fact -- and main point -- remains that Russia has no valid claim to that land and is still occupying it illegally.

    Russian military forces need only advance 22 miles south through Poland near Lithuania while forces in Belarus advance 22 miles north to meet them, and the three Baltic states would be geographically cut off from the rest of the European Union. Such a pair of military ground operations can be conducted rather quickly. This fact is the basic premise for concentrated NATO presence there.

    If Russians were truly serious about wanting to end the Cold War in Europe they would simply leave their Stalinist enclave, as they are obliged to to by law. By remaining there they threaten Europe with their missiles and preserve the option of reconquering the Baltic countries, which, unlike the Ukraine, are considered Nordic, not Slavic, are not Christian Orthodox, and do not use a Cyrillic alphabet.

    The unsettled Königsberg / Kaliningrad issue is completely different from the dormant Karelian question which Finland (not a member of NATO) settled at the Moscow peace treaty in 1940. It is rather strange that commentators in this thread seem to be content to let Russia off the hook on this issue, which remains the main source of ongoing diplomatic tensions and potential military conflict in Europe.

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  78. annamaria says:

    When corruption meets dementia… https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/04/06/insouciant-russians/
    Harvard University Professor Graham Allison:
    “However demonic, however destructive, however devious, however deserving of being strangled Russia is, the brute fact is that we cannot kill this bastard without committing suicide.” http://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-russia-back-basics-21901
    “In April 2014, it was reported that from 2012 to 2013, the Belfer Center had hired a paid Wikipedia editor who would cite Allison’s scholarly writings in various Wikipedia articles. Funding for the position came from the Stanton Foundation, for which Graham Allison’s wife, Liz Allison, was one of two trustees. The editor also made some “supposedly problematic edits” based heavily on work of other scholars affiliated with the Belfer Center.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_T._Allison
    — By the way, what is so bastardly about Russia, a nation that has enriched the world civilization with the masterpieces of belle letters, music, architecture, math and engineering, and which is much older than the US? Has not the US become “bastardized” due to the zionization of the US Congress and military? Is Mr. Allison aware of the ongoing slaughterous Middle Eastern wars that are run on the US dime & limb? Guess, the aged professor Graham Tillett Allison is angry that Russia does not want to succumb to the ziocon “masters” that are dear to his heart.

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    When corruption meets dementia…
     
    I like that!
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  79. annamaria says:

    On the degradation of the US: https://www.rt.com/news/423439-russia-sanctions-response-foreign-ministry/
    “US democracy is being degraded as Washington is using all means to maintain its global hegemony, even those measures that harm the American people… Politicians in Washington have reached such a level of absurdity that they are trying to target our companies that have long maintained business ties with the US and have thousands of jobs depending on them. In other words, they strike ordinary Americans, their own voters, and destroy economic cooperation in a self-defeating manner… The seizure of Russian diplomatic facilities in the US has demonstrated that “the right to private property, once sacred for Americans, has become an empty phrase.” Sigh.

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  80. renfro says:
    @Rurik

    Do you want Putin to atone for the Ukrainian genocide, the Gulags, deportation of the Tartars, the mass murder on Russians who fought on the German side against Stalin, the thirties purges, what exactly do you want ?
     
    Perhaps it could go something like this...

    ~ I, Rurik, am now president of the United States, and for my inaugural speech, this is (in part) what I'd say:

    Fellow Americans, and people of the world. Please know that things are now going to be different. The USA will no longer engage in wars of aggression anywhere in the world. Indeed, we will repudiate them whenever and wherever they are waged. Also, we will be prosecuting all the war criminals we can get our hands on, starting with both former presidents Bush, president Obama, president Clinton, Madam Secretaries Albright and Clinton, and many, many throngs of war criminals who've besmirched the name of this nation, and her people, for the last time.

    Some of these people are too old, and their crimes too fogged over by the haze of time. But all the ones who've been guilty in recent decades, are going to be tried for crimes against humanity, and treason against the Constitution and people of this nation. And if found guilty, just as Bush the lessor, had Saddam hanged, then so too shall he hang, by the neck until dead, if found guilty by a jury of his peers- any average American citizen.

    Now as to the debts we Americans owe for the serial crimes that our government has committed.

    First off, we will hold to every treaty we've ever signed with any and all native American tribes. Lands will be returned, and reparations paid. This will be done by also respecting the property rights of those non-Amerindians who're living on land owned by Amerindians though no fault of their own. But this will not be as sweeping as many would like, because I can only answer to the crimes that have been committed in the last few decades.

    Then, as to the victims of America's (the ZUSA's) serial war crimes which were perpetrated in recent decades, (we're too late for the victims of WWI, and before), but as to the victims of ZUSA's more recent treachery and aggression:

    as to Vietnam, whereas fighting murderous commies is and always has been a laudable goal, in the case of Vietnam, it is too easy to argue that the US was simply trying to continue the colonialism of the French, and that atrocities were committed, and lies were told.

    We're sincerely, very, very sorry about that. I say that as president to all the Vietnamese victims of that illegal war, just as I apologize on behalf the US government, for all the young American men who died. May God have mercy on all their souls.

    >>><<>><<<

    You know, I could go on, and on. There's a lot of healing to be done, because what the ZUS government has done in Palestine in particular, is so beyond the pale of human decency, that I'd have trouble finding the words.

    What was done to Germany and Germans after the war..

    what was done, as you say, to the victims of Operation Keelhaul, makes be angry, and I sometime harbor a hatred for Perfidious Albion, who promised those men succor, only to hand them over to Stalin, and certain, if horrific deaths.

    I love the people of the UK, but God damn its leadership are demonic, if ever that word had meaning.

    So much evil has been wrought, I'd be at that podium for quite a while, I fear.

    But by doing so, it would in no way be a blight on the character of the American people, who're no more collectively guilty (at least the ones who voted for Trump and an end to all the insanity), than the people of Russia are for the crimes of the Soviet terror, perhaps most its victims of which were ethnic Russians.

    But just as the ZUSA today is under the thrall of the Fiend, so too was Russia during the Soviet madness, under the thrall of the same Fiend. And menacing the planet.

    By simply repudiating that horrible time, when the Red Army was raping its way across Eastern Europe, and genociding farmers for being successful farmers, and rounding up the Polish intelligentsia and putting bullets in the back of their necks, it would go a long way towards mollifying the people of those nations. Hungary already, having had such a terrible time under the Soviet madness, seems to be allied nicely with Putin's Russia.

    Just the picture of Putin shaking hands with Solzhenitsyn

    http://suzieqq.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/600-solzhenitsyn-21.jpg

    is one of my favorite picture of all time, because of what it means is possible

    more of that please!

    Putin's is doing it already, by recently telling Germans they're not a congenitally evil people. (I'm sure he pissed off the zio-scum with that one ; )

    Poland also should do it's part, and make nice with Germany and Russia.

    Ukraine too! It's past time for the Ukrainians to continue wallowing in hate. The Russians that collaborated with the Bolshevik Fiend to genocide their ancestors are all dead. The Russians alive today also lost loved ones to that mass insanity, the zio-WWII.

    I've read a bit about all of it, and all I keep coming back to is how unnecessary it all was, and contrived to sate an insatiable hatred that lurks in the banking houses.

    A hatred and demonic lust for slaughter and human misery that is driving the world to the brink again, in this century. My motivating principle for being here is that we should not let them get away with it, again.

    LOL..

    My speech would be shorter:

    To my fellow Americans , thank you for giving me the opportunity to serve you and our country.
    I give you in return my solemn promise to use all my power to return America to its founding ideals of justice, fairness and the pursuit of good lives for all Americans .

    To those who donated so much to my campaign for President; the Jews for Israel, the Bankers of Wall Street, the Oil companies, the Real Estate conglomerates and Hedge funds, the Military Industry Lobbyist, the Immigrant groups, the ideological lobbies, I want to thank you also but as you must understand all deals made with you in exchange for your money are now off, as the office of President and oath to the Constitution taken today will bar me from favoritism in US policy toward any foreign country, business, religion or group that could damage the common good of the nation.

    I ask all Americans to join with me today to make America strong, not just in its vast power but in the currency of world respect for its principles and values.

    We can do this. Thank you all.

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    Mine would be even shorter.:

    Watch me.
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  81. @Rurik

    the government was “authorized to take immediate possession of any such plant [and] … to manufacture therein … such product or material as may be required”; the private owner, meanwhile, would be “deemed guilty of a felony.”5
     
    and they're still doing such crap, with their laws against the BDS movement

    they've had their fang$ deep in the jugular of this nation for a very, very long time.

    Perhaps ever since they figured out a way to foist the African slave trade, which they profited off handsomely. And of course, their usury.

    Occasionally I'll watch a bit of Tucker Carlson, who'll never mention Israel on pain of death, but occasionally says things no one else would say.

    and he pointed out that some credit card companies are charging 28% interest on cards targeted to college kids

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=jeIcgBiCmfU

    They create this money out of thin air, and then loan it out at interest. Just that one simple fact, tells you all you need to know about what's wrong and why it may never get fixed.

    We must end the Fed, or their power of the purse will drag us all into their wars.

    all this handwringing over why May is blaming Putin for this false flag attack. When we all know why- because England had been under the thrall of the Fiend going back at least to the Boer war, when they invented actual death camps to kill off the families of the Dutch farmers- whose gold and diamonds ((De Beers and Oppenheimer)) coveted. And the Brits been sucking zio-butt ever since.

    If Rothschild farts, the queen and prime minister of England shove each other out of the way to be the first to sniff it. Lately being edged out by the Pope.

    …because England had been under the thrall of the Fiend going back at least to the Boer war, when they invented actual death camps to kill off the families of the Dutch farmers- whose gold and diamonds ((De Beers and Oppenheimer)) coveted. And the Brits been sucking zio-butt ever since.

    I don’t know much about the Boer war, and never knew what it was about but what you say makes perfect sense. You are correct about the death camps, and the Brits even had them in Kenya as late as the 1950s! What a pack of perverts!

    Perfidious Albion has a lot to answer for, and they haven’t even begun to.

    This is from a short, succinct and informative pamphlet and it supports your claim, above.

    Henceforth, Britain will do the bidding of her real masters ; she has
    become the tool of the schemers
    against all she holds dear, namely, her
    faith, her patriotism, traditions, civilisation. She grants the “ returned ”
    aliens equality of civil rights ; they may and do become mayors over
    Christian population, and within a short time Britain is ruled by a
    Jewish Prime Minister, Disraeli, first and foremost a Jew and the
    flunkey of the powerful Rothschild financiers.

    One of the consequences of this disastrous political mistake is the
    transformation of the national attitude of Great Britain and her
    colonies into that of the British Empire. Disraeli who inspired it
    knew what he was scheming for, the British people did not. But with
    him, Zionism is carried up to the very heights of the British Throne, a
    Zionist World Empire is on the high road to realisation.

    -Leslie Fry, “the Jews and the British Empire,” 1935

    https://archive.org/stream/FryLeslieTheJewsAndTheBritishEmpire/Fry_Leslie_-_The_jews_and_the_British_Empire_djvu.txt

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    The problem goes all the way back to the Anglo-Saxon Puritans, who were Judaizing heretics. Mr Archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell literally made alliance with Jews, allowing them back into England with special rights and privileges, in order to get their money so he and his early WASPs could slaughter more non-WASP British Isles natives.
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  82. @Been_there_done_that
    Quote by Petras:
    Russia is not a threat to the West: it is recovering its sovereignty in order to further a multi-polar world. President Putin is not an “aggressor” but he refuses to allow Russia to return to vassalage.

    These false premises or conclusions are superficially achieved by ignoring the proverbial elephant in the room, which in this case happens to be the continued illegal occupation by Russia of the Königsberg region, also known as the Kaliningrad Oblast, located between Poland and Lithuania in the Baltic Sea. Unlike Crimea, which was reunified with Russia four years ago, the Königsberg region was never a part of Russia. It is important to understand that neither Britain nor the USA ever agreed to the transfer of this territory to the USSR at the Potsdam Conference, in the summer of 1945, nor thereafter at the so-called "Final Agreement" treaty with Germany in 1990. The Cold War in Europe will continue until Russia finally evacuates this occupied region, named after Mikhail Kalinin, a mass murderer under Stalin. (Note that Leningrad and Stalingrad were renamed long ago.)

    Russian leaders and professional propagandists should know very well that their ongoing occupation ("administration") of this Stalinist enclave has no legitimacy under international law, just as Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Jerusalem is illegal. This is why, as Petras and many others, they never mention this issue rather than explicitly lying about it. After the three Baltic republics of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania had regained their independence from the USSR, Gorbachev attempted to "sell" this territory to Germany at least a couple of times during the early 1990s, once reportedly for 70 billion DM, later for 48 billion DM, yet this was presumptuous on his part because he was obliged to vacate the region because it never belonged to the USSR or Russia in the first place. Over the years this Kaliningrad enclave has degenerated to a dilapidated state and has essentially become one large military base harboring a naval fleet and numerous missiles pointed toward Europe and posing a real threat. There is no other purpose for Russia holding on to this territory except to maintain an aggressive posture against Europe, especially toward the three Baltic republics.

    As was witnessed as recently as early last month at a public election rally in Kaliningrad, Vladimir Putin again expressed his dissatisfaction at the breakup of the USSR and signaled a desire to reverse it if he could.

    Source Link:
    https://sputniknews.com/russia/201803031062180213-putin-private-life-secrets/
    Quote:
    When asked the outcome of which historic event he would alter if he had the ability to do so, the Russian leader replied: "The breakup of the Soviet Union."

    The Russian war games in Belarus a few months ago can have had no other purpose except to practice a surprise land attack to bifurcate the border between Poland and Lithuania, which were a Commonwealth centuries ago. Only about 44 miles separate Belarus from the occupied region of Königsberg; cutting off the three Baltic republics (which all use the euro as their official currency) from the rest of Europe would be a prelude toward possible re-occupation, presumably under the concocted pretext of needing to protect the Russian-speaking minority from threat or harassment, basically the same type of guise under which GHW Bush invaded Panama. Since Russia has no right to hold onto the Kaliningrad region, it would be perfectly legitimate for a NATO expedition, led by German and Lithuanian forces, to reclaim this territory and kick out the Russian military forces, plus their naval vessels, missiles, and their families in an orderly manner. The occasional hysteria one occasionally hears or reads about NATO troops allegedly at Russia's border pertains to this ongoing territorial conflict, which appears to be a big taboo to highlight.

    An excellent example of how taboo this issue actually is was highlighted in a Bloomberg interview of Putin in September 2016 by John Micklethwait, who raised the topic of border disputes, foremost among them Russian disputes with China and Japan. Micklethwait briefly also alluded to Kaliningrad but then apologized (said he was only joking) for this mention as soon as Putin proceeded to address this topic in a transparently nonsensical and highly disingenuous manner. Putin thus falsely claimed the matter was a Pandora's Box and attempted to link this basic dispute with post World War II border issues between Hungary and Romania or Poland and Ukraine, as if these issues were somehow a matter involving Russia, or these other countries were incapable of settling such issues bilaterally. (This interview can be found on YouTube.)

    Source Link:
    www.stalkerzone.org/putins-response-western-elite-bloomberg-interview/

    Another example of the taboo nature of alluding to the still unresolved Königsberg / Kaliningrad issue is that the the USA and Europe politicians and television media will howl loudly about such fait-accompli topics as the Crimean unification with Russia through two fair elections or ridiculous fabrications, such as "meddling" in American elections or as a recent staged poison attack in Britain but evade discussion the real issue of Russia's ongoing presence in the Baltic region adjoining Poland and Lithuania, neither of which countries it shares a border with. A few reasons would come to mind:

    Firstly, publicly pressing Russia to quit its illegal occupation in the Baltic region, while encouraging Israel to continue its occupation of the West Bank and Jerusalem with generous funding, would expose the USA to additional loud charges of utter hypocrisy. (Conversely, those in the alternative media, who criticize the Israeli occupation and support the boycott-disinvestment-sanction movement while on the other hand tacitly supporting the ongoing manifestation of what came about as a consequence of Stalinist terrorism against a civilian population of Prussians, by remaining silent about the illegal Russian occupation, are effectively being hypocritical.)

    Secondly, though it is no secret that the leading functionaries within the US Neo-Con establishment operating in the DC Beltway regularly project their visceral animosity toward Russia for historical reasons, for analogous reasons they harbor an even stronger resentment toward Germany and Lithuania, both of which would be the rightful administrators of this territory after Russia eventually vacates it -- the latter in the rural areas surrounding the historic German city of Königsberg, where the mathematician Euler and philosopher Kant used to live long ago. Therefore, from their perspective, it would still be preferable for Russia to continue to squat upon what has become a veritable sh!thole than to have the industrious Germans eventually restore its main city to its former glory, perhaps erect a prosperous free-trade zone, and maintain a permanent presence there.

    Thirdly, it is evident that once Russia will have retreated from its illegal occupation of this territory, back to its own undisputed border, the Cold War in Europe will essentially be over, which also means that there will no longer be a case for maintaining the NATO military infrastructure. A continued US military presence will become obsolete, and popular public demand will force most countries to end their NATO alliance. Perhaps the Neo-Con establishment is afraid of such a development, yet it is up to Russia to bring this situation about. This ought to be obvious to Putin: If Russia genuinely wishes to live in peace with its European neighbors, none of which have expressed any desire to invade and occupy any Russian territory, the Russian military occupation of the Kaliningrad Oblast must end. The fact that he has refused to even publicly entertain abiding with such an obligation, much less proposed a comprehensive settlement on "face-saving" terms, should already serve as sufficient proof of him wanting to maintain an aggressive option.

    Fourthly, even if their were a genuine desire by key politicians and leaders to end the European Cold War, such a development of peace breaking out would be opposed by the formidable military-industrial complex and banking interests, who profit indirectly from continued tensions through lending to countries for increased military spending.

    For the reasons cited above, it would be sign of progress toward peace if Petras and many others within the alternative media to finally break the long running taboo on the unsettled Königsberg / Kaliningrad matter and begin to inform the largely ignorant public about the current, untenable status quo, and Russia's obligations in accordance with international law. It should be obvious to anyone that Russia's leaders would have no interest to blow up the world -- including themselves -- for the sake of continuing to hold onto their illegally occupied sh!thole.

    Furthermore, one needs to delineate between Germany having formally refrained (under duress) from making an explicit claim to retaking this territory and the fact that they have not refused the option to do so once it were to be vacated by Russia. Given Germany's historical and legal right to establish future sovereignty over much of this territory, most prominently the city of Königsberg, by virtue of having failed to agree to its transfer to another sovereign entity, a formal claim is not necessary because their administrative rights would revert to Germany by default. Ultimately, it is up to Germany and Lithuania to agree to the borders between their two countries: the future roles played by Russia and Poland are secondary in the context of developing an orderly transition.

    In the meantime, so long as Putin maintains his aggressive posture, Russia will remain a threat a threat to Europe, particular its Nordic countries and Central Europe, and NATO forces would be morally and legally on the right side of history to kick the Russian military out by subterfuge or force from their illegally annexed enclave.

    Quote by Petras:

    Russia is not a threat to the West: it is recovering its sovereignty in order to further a multi-polar world. President Putin is not an “aggressor” but he refuses to allow Russia to return to vassalage.

    These false premises or conclusions…

    Thanks for saving me the trouble of reading your wordy baloney. After reading that drivel, I stopped. There is nothing false about the concept that Russia is not a threat to the West.

    Significant portions of the “West,” however, are threats to Russia and other large portions of the planet, so you got it entirely bass ackwards.

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  83. @annamaria
    When corruption meets dementia... https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/04/06/insouciant-russians/
    Harvard University Professor Graham Allison:
    “However demonic, however destructive, however devious, however deserving of being strangled Russia is, the brute fact is that we cannot kill this bastard without committing suicide.” http://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-russia-back-basics-21901
    "In April 2014, it was reported that from 2012 to 2013, the Belfer Center had hired a paid Wikipedia editor who would cite Allison's scholarly writings in various Wikipedia articles. Funding for the position came from the Stanton Foundation, for which Graham Allison's wife, Liz Allison, was one of two trustees. The editor also made some "supposedly problematic edits" based heavily on work of other scholars affiliated with the Belfer Center." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_T._Allison
    --- By the way, what is so bastardly about Russia, a nation that has enriched the world civilization with the masterpieces of belle letters, music, architecture, math and engineering, and which is much older than the US? Has not the US become "bastardized" due to the zionization of the US Congress and military? Is Mr. Allison aware of the ongoing slaughterous Middle Eastern wars that are run on the US dime & limb? Guess, the aged professor Graham Tillett Allison is angry that Russia does not want to succumb to the ziocon "masters" that are dear to his heart.

    When corruption meets dementia…

    I like that!

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  84. @renfro
    LOL..

    My speech would be shorter:

    To my fellow Americans , thank you for giving me the opportunity to serve you and our country.
    I give you in return my solemn promise to use all my power to return America to its founding ideals of justice, fairness and the pursuit of good lives for all Americans .

    To those who donated so much to my campaign for President; the Jews for Israel, the Bankers of Wall Street, the Oil companies, the Real Estate conglomerates and Hedge funds, the Military Industry Lobbyist, the Immigrant groups, the ideological lobbies, I want to thank you also but as you must understand all deals made with you in exchange for your money are now off, as the office of President and oath to the Constitution taken today will bar me from favoritism in US policy toward any foreign country, business, religion or group that could damage the common good of the nation.

    I ask all Americans to join with me today to make America strong, not just in its vast power but in the currency of world respect for its principles and values.

    We can do this. Thank you all.

    Mine would be even shorter.:

    Watch me.

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    yes gentlemen, I know it was wordy

    (an admitted foible of mine)

    but the point I was trying to make is that Putin and Russia could repudiate the horrors of the Soviet period without sacrificing their national dignity.

    and by doing so, emasculate the ((forces behind)) NATO sticking pointed sticks into the bear

    by setting at ease the former satellite states over any future Russian ambitions outside her borders.

    I'd like to see Poland and Ukraine tell NATO to pound sand when they say, here' take this stick and jam it in that bear right there. 'We'll protect you if it does anything'
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  85. Jake says:
    @Joe Wong
    The world needs Russian to keep the psychopathic Anglo Five Eyes warmongers in check.

    That seems to be the case.

    The wild Russians have much better self-control, and a much less grandiose and more moral, foreign policy than does the USA.

    Our instincts, meaning those of our Elites who make the decisions, are getting worse and worse. Hubris is reigning in DC, NYC, and Hollywood.

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  86. Jake says:
    @jacques sheete

    ...because England had been under the thrall of the Fiend going back at least to the Boer war, when they invented actual death camps to kill off the families of the Dutch farmers- whose gold and diamonds ((De Beers and Oppenheimer)) coveted. And the Brits been sucking zio-butt ever since.
     
    I don't know much about the Boer war, and never knew what it was about but what you say makes perfect sense. You are correct about the death camps, and the Brits even had them in Kenya as late as the 1950s! What a pack of perverts!

    Perfidious Albion has a lot to answer for, and they haven't even begun to.

    This is from a short, succinct and informative pamphlet and it supports your claim, above.

    Henceforth, Britain will do the bidding of her real masters ; she has
    become the tool of the schemers
    against all she holds dear, namely, her
    faith, her patriotism, traditions, civilisation. She grants the “ returned ”
    aliens equality of civil rights ; they may and do become mayors over
    Christian population, and within a short time Britain is ruled by a
    Jewish Prime Minister, Disraeli, first and foremost a Jew and the
    flunkey of the powerful Rothschild financiers.

    One of the consequences of this disastrous political mistake is the
    transformation of the national attitude of Great Britain and her
    colonies into that of the British Empire. Disraeli who inspired it
    knew what he was scheming for, the British people did not. But with
    him, Zionism is carried up to the very heights of the British Throne, a
    Zionist World Empire is on the high road to realisation.

    -Leslie Fry, “the Jews and the British Empire,” 1935

    https://archive.org/stream/FryLeslieTheJewsAndTheBritishEmpire/Fry_Leslie_-_The_jews_and_the_British_Empire_djvu.txt

     

    The problem goes all the way back to the Anglo-Saxon Puritans, who were Judaizing heretics. Mr Archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell literally made alliance with Jews, allowing them back into England with special rights and privileges, in order to get their money so he and his early WASPs could slaughter more non-WASP British Isles natives.

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    The problem goes all the way back to the Anglo-Saxon Puritans, who were Judaizing heretics.
     
    I know nothing about this but think there be some merit in what you say, since those Puritans acted like Fiends! They were into cruel, bizarre, and hideous punishments and sexual perversions, reminiscent of our chosen ones.

    Any references?

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  87. @Jake
    The problem goes all the way back to the Anglo-Saxon Puritans, who were Judaizing heretics. Mr Archetypal WASP Oliver Cromwell literally made alliance with Jews, allowing them back into England with special rights and privileges, in order to get their money so he and his early WASPs could slaughter more non-WASP British Isles natives.

    The problem goes all the way back to the Anglo-Saxon Puritans, who were Judaizing heretics.

    I know nothing about this but think there be some merit in what you say, since those Puritans acted like Fiends! They were into cruel, bizarre, and hideous punishments and sexual perversions, reminiscent of our chosen ones.

    Any references?

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    It is everywhere. Before the Puritan Revolution, they were routinely lampooned as thinking themselves to be Jews. That came from their focus on believing that the Old Testament was the only way to know who were the New Israel of the true church.

    I would suggest you read E. Michael Jones to get a handle on the theology and how theology leads to politics and culture.
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  88. Dacian says:
    @Andrei Martyanov
    Excellent summary.

    With all due respect for your many interesting postings, I think, this narrative needs a major correction. The best summary is in the preface of a book “The New CommonWealth”:

    “For anyone who has followed closely the events in Eastern Europe for the past thirty years, the systematic absence of one possible scenario from the mainstream media dialog is baffling — namely that today’s Russian troubles may be only a shield behind which a more powerful regeneration is in progress. The New York Times Magazine, August 10, 1997, brings up one of many questions to which modern history awaits a convincing answer. On the occasion of former Defense Secretary McNamara’s revisiting Vietnam, it reminds us of one such unelucidated inconsistency: “If the reason [for the war in Vietnam] was to fight communism, why did the U.S. not help China in 1949, or why did the U.S. not help the Batista regime in Cuba in 1959?”
    There are indeed significant and puzzling inconsistencies in the story of the Soviet Union’s “collapse.” Consider the artfulness, bordering on the Machiavellian, and the lengthy effort that went into its demise and one has sufficient grounds for a different tale. The process of “collapse,” basically from 1983 on, came about as the country’s establishment applied blow after blow to the highly coherent and resilient Soviet system. The most intriguing aspect of this incredible series of events is that behind it was the political will of the elite — the Soviet elite who had decided that the Soviet system must be dismembered, while the so-called disgruntled masses played a minor role. That amounts, but only on a superficial look, to the impression that the elite itself might have voluntarily decided to dismantle and demobilize its own lines of defense and submit to a condition of servitude to the rest of the world. On the contrary, I am not only in agreement with Weir and Kotz and others who ascribe perestroika and the collapse of the Soviet system to the Soviet elite, but I suggest that today’s troubles are not a result of a failed perestroika but are only Phase II of perestroika. From socialism to capitalism and back to a superior form of socialism is how the old Marxist dialecticians would phrase it. By compromising both models— the old communist orthodoxy as well as the newer aspirant, casino capitalism—the power establishment makes it possible to bring the country safely back to socialist capitalism.

    But if one accepts this hypothesis, then it becomes the premise of an unsettling line of reasoning. The elite of the second most powerful corporation in the world, the Soviet Union, must have had a self-serving reason to take such risks and must as well have had the opportunity to reformulate its modus operandi.

    If this is so, the further implication would be that the “collapse” was possible not in reaction to a stronger U.S. but precisely because the other superpower also showed every sign of weakness and crisis so that it could not mount any credible offensive, economically or militarily, while the Soviet Union went through its own version of the Great Depression en route toward economic restructuring and political modernization.

    The most plausible interpretation of the series of international issues of the 1980s (the new economic assertiveness of Western Europe and Japan, the war in Afghanistan, the Iran-Iraq craze, the Solidarity movement in Poland, the world debt crisis, etc.) is that they were already setting the framework for a future covenant — “the new world order” — between the former superpowers, to their mutual advantage. That presupposes an early, even pre-1980, agreed armistice and rethinking of the exhausting confrontation.

    If Russia was in a position to let down its guard to the extent that we are witnessing today, it was only because it found itself not in a weak position but in the strongest military-strategic position in its history, free from imminent outside threat as enshrined at Helsinki in the 1975 Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe. Given its control of the world’s richest reserves of oil, gas, nuclear material, and raw materials, together with its educated professionals, an unmatched nuclear arsenal*, space technology leadership, etc. — all Russia needed was to repackage its system as a benevolent system, to make it into a soothing and attractive social and economic model, to launch a successful public relations scheme. To succeed at that would be worth the costs and the risks!

    From such a strategic viewpoint one may infer that the dismantling of the Soviet Union was only the first step of the former Soviet elite’s new policy of Soviet “market” outreach to the West as well as to the South.

    In the west, Western Europe today seems at its zenith, however, its fate may well have been determined by (1) its military emasculation (by the Treaty of European Conventional Arms Reduction, the 1988 Soviet-U.S. Intermediate Nuclear Forces agreement and START II) and (2) its dependency on Russian controlled oil and gas. In the south, oil producing Iran and Iraq, isolated by United States’ Middle East diplomacy, are quietly and slowly sliding further into the deadly embrace of the northern bear.**

    The centuries long Russian-Anglo-American love-hate relationship has been evolving dramatically from late 1978 until today, for sure. However, one might notice that it is being redesigned in such a way as to accommodate in the long run a more assertive, more successful and more powerful Russia overlording its European and southern peripheries.

    A first sketch of such an analysis I presented in 1992 at the ISA conference in Atlanta. For a more detailed analysis of the historical background, of the economic, military and political circumstances of such a probable scenario, you are invited to read the following pages.”

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    I've heard variants on that theory on a number of occasions, most of them in the '90s and early 00s. Almost all of them featured the idea that a core group of KGB intellectuals had been studying the world's grand socio-economic-political mega/meta-trends and basically saw that the end game was going to come upon us all. Strategically, they decided to "collapse now, and avoid the rush". Dismantle, and rebuild on a different foundation.

    Collapses being what they are, things went pear-shaped and overshot the mark putting Russia and the other Soviet republics into a tailspin they only barely brought under control in the nick of time.

    Yes, they did see the Soviet system as unsustainable, but not much less so than the "capitalist road" that the West was barrelling along. I've also read that the successors to that group were responsible for placing Putin in position and forced Yeltsin's abdication.

    A benign conspiracy theory, if you will. FWIW.
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  89. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete
    Mine would be even shorter.:

    Watch me.

    yes gentlemen, I know it was wordy

    (an admitted foible of mine)

    but the point I was trying to make is that Putin and Russia could repudiate the horrors of the Soviet period without sacrificing their national dignity.

    and by doing so, emasculate the ((forces behind)) NATO sticking pointed sticks into the bear

    by setting at ease the former satellite states over any future Russian ambitions outside her borders.

    I’d like to see Poland and Ukraine tell NATO to pound sand when they say, here’ take this stick and jam it in that bear right there. ‘We’ll protect you if it does anything’

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    yes gentlemen, I know it was wordy
     
    Not at all. Besides, all your comments are very interesting. Most of the scribblers here and elsewhere could learn something from you. Most of their stuff is nauseating.
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  90. Jake, what’s a “Judaizing Heresy?”

    Sounds worse than one of Hillary’s STDs…

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  91. Jake says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    Why are they ganging up on Russia?

    1 : They loved Russia when it was a tyrannical communistic pandemonia , and now they hate Russia because it has cast off Communism ( which they are still obcessed with).

    2 They hate Russia because it does not cater to gays.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz artist.

    Absolutely excellent post.

    Of course, there are other reasons ‘they’ hate Russia. Putin proved with Chechnya that Russians still know how to deal with Moslems. Putin also made most of the Oligarchs (who were preponderantly Jewish) who stole Russia blind during the 1990s pay for their crimes.

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  92. Jake says:
    @jacques sheete

    The problem goes all the way back to the Anglo-Saxon Puritans, who were Judaizing heretics.
     
    I know nothing about this but think there be some merit in what you say, since those Puritans acted like Fiends! They were into cruel, bizarre, and hideous punishments and sexual perversions, reminiscent of our chosen ones.

    Any references?

    It is everywhere. Before the Puritan Revolution, they were routinely lampooned as thinking themselves to be Jews. That came from their focus on believing that the Old Testament was the only way to know who were the New Israel of the true church.

    I would suggest you read E. Michael Jones to get a handle on the theology and how theology leads to politics and culture.

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  93. @Rurik
    yes gentlemen, I know it was wordy

    (an admitted foible of mine)

    but the point I was trying to make is that Putin and Russia could repudiate the horrors of the Soviet period without sacrificing their national dignity.

    and by doing so, emasculate the ((forces behind)) NATO sticking pointed sticks into the bear

    by setting at ease the former satellite states over any future Russian ambitions outside her borders.

    I'd like to see Poland and Ukraine tell NATO to pound sand when they say, here' take this stick and jam it in that bear right there. 'We'll protect you if it does anything'

    yes gentlemen, I know it was wordy

    Not at all. Besides, all your comments are very interesting. Most of the scribblers here and elsewhere could learn something from you. Most of their stuff is nauseating.

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  94. @Henry's Cat
    Russia uses the West as an effective bogeyman whilst its ruling elites maintain power and enrich themselves in the bargain. Some sections of Western elites (neo-cons and the military) use Russia as an effective bogeyman to further their own interests. But it's important to appreciate that neither approach is purely cynical - self-interest and ideology are usually intertwined.

    No, it is the other way around.

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  95. With all due respect, the author is trying to achieve the impossible: find rational explanation for an irrational behavior. Lately the US and its vassals behave like a cornered rat. The reasons are much greater than Russia. Unipolar world order based on the dominance of the Empire and its faithful vassals is crumbling. The main reason is not Russia, but blinding greed and irrational hubris of the elites, who visibly degenerated after the breakup of the USSR in 1991. The Empire overstretched itself badly militarily, Pentagon contractors are ruining the US economy by their boundless greed, lies of the establishment can no longer be protected in the age of Internet. Thus, the dominant Empire and its goons are losing their positions on all fronts. Both Russia and China would much prefer slow decline of the Empire, particularly very slow loss of dollar value (overall it has to come down about ten-fold to make the US debt manageable). However, cornered rats keep provoking Russia and China in such a way that they have harder and harder time to ignore. A few more provocations like the Skripal affair, which was so ham-handed that the criminals themselves had to change their legend five times in less than a month, and Russia and China might decide that the US must be dealt with like a mad dog: shoot first, ask questions later. That’s the sad state of affairs, exacerbated by glaring intellectual decline of the elites in the US and all its client states.

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    "Lately the US and its vassals behave like a cornered rat. ... The main reason is not Russia, but blinding greed and irrational hubris of the elites... The Empire overstretched itself badly militarily, Pentagon contractors are ruining the US economy by their boundless greed, lies of the establishment can no longer be protected in the age of the Internet. Thus, the dominant Empire and its goons are losing their positions on all fronts."
    --- Thank you. An excellent summary.
    , @Mark Presco
    There may be a common connection to all of this. I’m no expert, but it may have something with the petro-dollar. Ever since the dollar went off the gold standard, being tied to oil commerce is the only thing backing it.

    Apparently Saddam and Gaddafi threatened this arrangement and look what happened to them. Now maybe Russia is the threat.

    I just read an article about plans to back the dollar with gold again. What will happen if oil is no longer traded in dollars?
    , @jacques sheete

    With all due respect, the author is trying to achieve the impossible: find rational explanation for an irrational behavior.
     
    Exactly.

    We're clearly dealing with crackpots. See my comment, #25.

    , @Anonymous

    irrational behavior
     
    The behaviour is criminally dangerous and stupid but there is a rationale behind it (method to the madness if you will). You've noted yourself that the financial ponzi is stretched to the breaking point. Well, that fake money is paying for the Global Force Projection stick that's meant to conquer the world for the NWO. It's "use it or lose it" time.

    Also, the Tribe has foolishly decided to replace their sheep with a short-legged variety that's supposedly easier to control. Average IQs in the West are sliding. On top of that, nepotism and Affirmative Action are contributing to the inefficient distribution of those IQs. And on top of that, the sheep are unhappy, restless and some of them are waking up and becoming wolves.

    Meanwhile, both Russia and China have avoided clusterfucking their own populations since they aren't infested with the same parasite. Their people are reasonably united and smart. Nominally, China already has a 7 IQ point advantage over the US and it's not in the business of forcing Jews and immigrants on its people so, in terms of efficiency, that advantage is much better utilised. All in all, both countries' competitiveness gap against the West is widening daily.

    So, again, it's "use it or lose it" time for the Tribe.
    , @Avery
    {and Russia and China might decide that the US must be dealt with like a mad dog: shoot first, ask questions later.}

    Good description as to 'cornered rat': well put.

    However, neither Russia nor China will shoot first: both are too smart and rational for that. Russia and China will not be provoked into a shooting war unless (their mainland) attacked directly by US/NATO.

    Russia has been provoked a lot more seriously than the Skripal affair since the breakup of USSR and has kept its cool. E.g. Remember Beslan? Putin made an oblique remark a while back that Russia has evidence that Western intel agencies were involved in the mass murder of Beslan children carried out by Basaev's group.

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  96. annamaria says:
    @AnonFromTN
    With all due respect, the author is trying to achieve the impossible: find rational explanation for an irrational behavior. Lately the US and its vassals behave like a cornered rat. The reasons are much greater than Russia. Unipolar world order based on the dominance of the Empire and its faithful vassals is crumbling. The main reason is not Russia, but blinding greed and irrational hubris of the elites, who visibly degenerated after the breakup of the USSR in 1991. The Empire overstretched itself badly militarily, Pentagon contractors are ruining the US economy by their boundless greed, lies of the establishment can no longer be protected in the age of Internet. Thus, the dominant Empire and its goons are losing their positions on all fronts. Both Russia and China would much prefer slow decline of the Empire, particularly very slow loss of dollar value (overall it has to come down about ten-fold to make the US debt manageable). However, cornered rats keep provoking Russia and China in such a way that they have harder and harder time to ignore. A few more provocations like the Skripal affair, which was so ham-handed that the criminals themselves had to change their legend five times in less than a month, and Russia and China might decide that the US must be dealt with like a mad dog: shoot first, ask questions later. That’s the sad state of affairs, exacerbated by glaring intellectual decline of the elites in the US and all its client states.

    “Lately the US and its vassals behave like a cornered rat. … The main reason is not Russia, but blinding greed and irrational hubris of the elites… The Empire overstretched itself badly militarily, Pentagon contractors are ruining the US economy by their boundless greed, lies of the establishment can no longer be protected in the age of the Internet. Thus, the dominant Empire and its goons are losing their positions on all fronts.”
    — Thank you. An excellent summary.

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  97. Mark Presco says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN
    With all due respect, the author is trying to achieve the impossible: find rational explanation for an irrational behavior. Lately the US and its vassals behave like a cornered rat. The reasons are much greater than Russia. Unipolar world order based on the dominance of the Empire and its faithful vassals is crumbling. The main reason is not Russia, but blinding greed and irrational hubris of the elites, who visibly degenerated after the breakup of the USSR in 1991. The Empire overstretched itself badly militarily, Pentagon contractors are ruining the US economy by their boundless greed, lies of the establishment can no longer be protected in the age of Internet. Thus, the dominant Empire and its goons are losing their positions on all fronts. Both Russia and China would much prefer slow decline of the Empire, particularly very slow loss of dollar value (overall it has to come down about ten-fold to make the US debt manageable). However, cornered rats keep provoking Russia and China in such a way that they have harder and harder time to ignore. A few more provocations like the Skripal affair, which was so ham-handed that the criminals themselves had to change their legend five times in less than a month, and Russia and China might decide that the US must be dealt with like a mad dog: shoot first, ask questions later. That’s the sad state of affairs, exacerbated by glaring intellectual decline of the elites in the US and all its client states.

    There may be a common connection to all of this. I’m no expert, but it may have something with the petro-dollar. Ever since the dollar went off the gold standard, being tied to oil commerce is the only thing backing it.

    Apparently Saddam and Gaddafi threatened this arrangement and look what happened to them. Now maybe Russia is the threat.

    I just read an article about plans to back the dollar with gold again. What will happen if oil is no longer traded in dollars?

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    I am not en economist (thank goodness!), but petro-dollar indeed appears to be the foundation of the current Ponzi scheme. But there is no moving back to gold. The US gold reserves are most likely a myth (or a fraud, if you prefer legal language): the US is very reluctant to return gold to European countries that stupidly gave it to the US for safekeeping, and it is never returned in the form of those gold bricks that actually were deposited, suggesting that they do not exist any more. Last month China introduced the trade in oil futures for yuans (the official name of their currency is renminbi), which is sure to remove the last pillar supporting dollar Ponzi scheme. The US elites got scared and started a trade war with China in response, which the US is almost certain to lose: just go to any US store and try finding something that is not made in China, from socks to computers; your success rate would be remarkably low, and even when you are lucky, the thing in question would be made in Malaysia, Taiwan, Vietnam, Philippines, etc. As Heraclitus said, you cannot enter the same river twice. That is one of the reasons for cornered rat behavior we are witnessing.
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  98. @Rurik

    they seem to enjoy flaunting their depravity with impunity.
     
    they only have impunity because of the infinite well of moral cowardice and venality from the 'journalists' of the West.

    it's the difference between Joseph Sobran and William Buckley.

    Sobran was an honorable man and journalist of integrity, and would not compromise his soul for a few shekels more.

    Buckley was a whore*, and a corrupt stooge of the PTB, so long as he got to have his ugly mug on ((TV)), and be lauded as an 'intellectual'. Just like George Will and the rest of the sniveling rats, who'd toss your children into the fires of zio-wars, and see them burn, for a few shekels more to clink in their pockets.

    *with apologies to street whores and crack addicted prostitutes who're a million times more decent and honorable than the likes of Buckley, Will and all the other rotten scum who lie and shill for the forces of evil, if that's where the bread is buttered.

    Joseph Sobran

    Whoa! I admire damned few men and he was one of them. Jude Wanniski, too.

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  99. @AnonFromTN
    With all due respect, the author is trying to achieve the impossible: find rational explanation for an irrational behavior. Lately the US and its vassals behave like a cornered rat. The reasons are much greater than Russia. Unipolar world order based on the dominance of the Empire and its faithful vassals is crumbling. The main reason is not Russia, but blinding greed and irrational hubris of the elites, who visibly degenerated after the breakup of the USSR in 1991. The Empire overstretched itself badly militarily, Pentagon contractors are ruining the US economy by their boundless greed, lies of the establishment can no longer be protected in the age of Internet. Thus, the dominant Empire and its goons are losing their positions on all fronts. Both Russia and China would much prefer slow decline of the Empire, particularly very slow loss of dollar value (overall it has to come down about ten-fold to make the US debt manageable). However, cornered rats keep provoking Russia and China in such a way that they have harder and harder time to ignore. A few more provocations like the Skripal affair, which was so ham-handed that the criminals themselves had to change their legend five times in less than a month, and Russia and China might decide that the US must be dealt with like a mad dog: shoot first, ask questions later. That’s the sad state of affairs, exacerbated by glaring intellectual decline of the elites in the US and all its client states.

    With all due respect, the author is trying to achieve the impossible: find rational explanation for an irrational behavior.

    Exactly.

    We’re clearly dealing with crackpots. See my comment, #25.

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    As brain surgery shows, rational behaviour does not exist.
    Without emotions, no decisions.
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  100. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    The author has tightened his writing style to good effect.

    The author assumes that the Skripal poisonings in the UK are a fake Russian-horror-WMD attack on British soil to promote Western Russophobia in preparation for war.

    This I believe is correct and, here I have outlined one way in which the scam may have been perpetrated.

    The author is wrong in assuming the inevitability of his grim prediction of UK decline and disintegration. There is no reason, as the author seems to believe, that Brexit will do great economic harm. Britain is a massive net importer from the EU, which means that following Brexit the EU will surely be pleased to trade with Britain on reasonable terms.

    As for UK breakup, the greatest threat is from mass immigration that has turned London into a violent settler state within the state. Brexit means turning away from globalization and restoring the British people to full domination in their own home. That in turn will mean a massive and expensive voluntary repatriation program, and tough measures to preserve British culture in the face of aggressive immigrants of alien culture intent on the transformation of Britain.

    Logically, a truly independent UK would form a federation with the Republic of Ireland, thereby creating natural geopolitical entity of the Celtic Isles.

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  101. FB says:
    @Randal

    The single biggest unexplained mystery about the Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly
     
    Obviously the answer to that question is that the UK regime, or those behind it, chose to push it. The question that's troubling me at the moment is what is the end game for the UK regime and/or other interested parties? As the whole thing falls apart so easily, it appears there was less and less substance behind it.

    Did they really believe they could sustain their campaign long term based upon pure fabrication, bluster and bullshit? Is this really all there is to it, or is there some kind of follow up still to come?

    Because at the moment it just looks like rank incompetent stupidity on their part, and I'm always wary of underestimating the enemy. If they had achieved something big that they might have thought worthwhile at the cost of being humiliated, as the neocons achieved the final destruction of one of Israel's rivals at the cost of being discredited, with the Iraq War, it might make some sense, but there seems no long term goal achieved here - nothing but some political and diplomatic gains that will likely be reversed and more as the consequences unfold.

    It worries me when my enemies suddenly appear so laughably incompetent and ineffectual.

    ‘…Did they really believe they could sustain their campaign long term based upon pure fabrication, bluster and bullshit?

    Is this really all there is to it, or is there some kind of follow up still to come?..’

    Obviously this is a stunt perpetrated by the West…since there are only two possibilities…either Russia did it…which is incomprehensible…or the proven liars did it…

    Pretty much a no brainer…

    Now as to the how and why…

    The big issue has been Syria no question about that…we have seen the entire Western regime change project now take the final nail in the coffin with the Ghouta liberation…

    We recall the hysteria surrounding the launch of the Ghouta ‘Operation Damascus Steel’ with even threats of US cruise missile attacks…and counter threats from the Russians…

    This level of confrontation tells us the Ghouta liberation was a very big deal to the die hard regime changers…who still somehow seem to be in control of the Trump govt…

    This was confirmed by Trump saying he’s going to get out…right as soon as Ghouta fell…clearly this last domino to tumble gave Trump the wiggle room to tell the generals ‘I told you so now let’s get out’…

    At the same time we have the Turks cleaning out the Kurds in Afrin and now threatening to march on Manbij where the US troops are…silly Macron has decided to jump in there causing even more threats from Erdogan…

    Basically the whole thing is collapsing quicker than a wet cardboard box…that’s often how these things play out when a decisive turning point is reached…

    Trump’s instincts are right to get out now while the getting is good…it can only get worse for the regime changers…

    Now back to Skripal…we had the hysteria about Syria chem weapons just before the SAA and Russian aviation dealt the coup de grace to the bearded fanatics in Ghouta…

    The calculation obviously was that raising the temperature even higher with this fabricated Skripal stunt…might somehow get the Russkies to relent and at least agree to some kind of pause that would let the bearded vermin live another day…

    But none of it worked…I was amazed to see that the Russians have learned their lessons from Aleppo and previous such agit-prop productions…

    They held firm in the UNSC and at the same time the routing of the bearded scum continued unabated and was wrapped up licketty split…

    This was not how it was supposed to go…

    The brainiacs who came up with the Skripal stunt [as part of the Syria campaign] obviously miscalculated badly…

    Now both Ghouta and Afrin have already folded…and Skripal is now exploding in their faces…

    Yes they were that dumb…probably because they were that desperate…

    Let’s remember here that just a couple of weeks ago we were at the brink of US Russia war in Syria…

    The whole thing boiled down to the good old chemical weapons canard [amazing that they still think they can fool the sheeple with it...and sure enough, judging by some of the morons on this site they still do]…both in Syria and just to add some spice…the Skripal chemical poisoning in the UK…

    So there is now nowhere for this to go except for the inconvenient truth to start coming out…

    The game now is to try to cover up this clumsy and bungled stunt…

    This is why we have Yulia now miraculously recovering…and now the father too…the family cat has been put down and cremated [cover story here is amazing...the cat died of 'malnutrition' while dozens of police combing through the house no one thinks to feed the cat or take it to an animal shelter...hmm...?]

    Now Yulia’s cousin Viktoria has been denied a visa to visit the UK and see Yulia…

    WTF…?

    Apparently the embassy staff has not been allowed a consular visit…and it is unclear if one will even be forthcoming at all…[the Vienna convention rules don't matter in the least to the globalist criminals...]

    So the only thing that remains to be seen is whether we will ever find out the truth of this whole stunt…we can of course be certain that it is stunt…a theatrical production as BoJo yapped about in his ‘light sabre’ mumblings…

    The phone conversation between Yulia and Viktoria is very strange indeed…Yulia foretold that the visa would be denied…clearly she was not free to talk…

    We do not know anything about the actual circumstances of any of this…

    We do not even know that Yulia and her father were even poisoned…never mind a nerve agent…

    How could we possibly know anything…?

    Who has seen them…?

    Whose word are we taking here…?

    So quite clearly this is a stunt related to the Syria meltdown that has gone bad…

    Hopefully the whole sorry thing will be exposed…although there is no way to tell…

    If both Yulia and her father are in on it it will be much more difficult…even if they were not…they will be under some very big pressure…

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    The big issue has been Syria no question about that…we have seen the entire Western regime change project now take the final nail in the coffin with the Ghouta liberation…
     
    Agreed that Eastern Ghouta was their planned False Flag. The Skripal case was some extra detailing (BTW showing that May and Johnson are the same crowd as Tony Blair with his fake Iraqi WMD).

    In late February, the Russian Reconciliation Center in Syria said it had obtained information that militants in the Damascus suburb of Eastern Ghouta had been “preparing a provocation with the use of poisonous substances in order to blame the government forces of using chemical weapons against civilians.”
    The release of this data “has foiled the plans of the US-led coalition to strike key Syrian military targets in order to change the balance of power in favor of the so-called ‘moderate opposition,” he said.

    More than 40 tons of chemical weapons were abandoned by retreating militants in the war-ravaged country, the ministry said on Wednesday. “The Syrian Foreign Ministry pointed out that more than 40 tons of poisonous substances were found on the territories, liberated from terrorists,” Igor Kirillov, the commander of Russia’s Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection Forces, said on Wednesday.
     

    The brainiacs who came up with the Skripal stunt [as part of the Syria campaign] obviously miscalculated badly…

    Now both Ghouta and Afrin have already folded…and Skripal is now exploding in their faces…
     
    https://www.rt.com/news/421919-chemical-weapons-militants-syria/
    , @CanSpeccy

    Hopefully the whole sorry thing will be exposed…although there is no way to tell…
     
    The problem for the Brits is that most of their political elite are morons, shills or creeps, so that even if Thereason may and BoJo are exposed for the NoviJoke scam, there is unlikely to be anyone honest, well-intentioned and competent to take their places.

    Over the last generation, the talent in Britain has mainly gone into the entertainments industry or the FIRE economy. Jonathan Lynn, who co-wrote the British TV series "Yes Minister," once remarked that, he had joined the Cambridge Union (debating society) in his first year at the University of Cambridge because he thought that he might like to enter politics. What he observed was that:


    All of the main debaters there, aged twenty, were the most pompous, self-satisfied, self-important bunch of clowns that I've ever clapped eyes on. They were all behaving as if they were on the government front bench, and twenty years later they all were: Michael Howard; John Selwyn Gummer; Kenneth Clarke. I thought at that point that the only way that I could ever contribute to politics is making fun of the politicians.
     
    That is why Britain is ruled by a bunch of clueless, irresponsible and treasonous morons.
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  102. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    the government was “authorized to take immediate possession of any such plant [and] … to manufacture therein … such product or material as may be required”; the private owner, meanwhile, would be “deemed guilty of a felony.”5
     
    and they're still doing such crap, with their laws against the BDS movement

    they've had their fang$ deep in the jugular of this nation for a very, very long time.

    Perhaps ever since they figured out a way to foist the African slave trade, which they profited off handsomely. And of course, their usury.

    Occasionally I'll watch a bit of Tucker Carlson, who'll never mention Israel on pain of death, but occasionally says things no one else would say.

    and he pointed out that some credit card companies are charging 28% interest on cards targeted to college kids

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=jeIcgBiCmfU

    They create this money out of thin air, and then loan it out at interest. Just that one simple fact, tells you all you need to know about what's wrong and why it may never get fixed.

    We must end the Fed, or their power of the purse will drag us all into their wars.

    all this handwringing over why May is blaming Putin for this false flag attack. When we all know why- because England had been under the thrall of the Fiend going back at least to the Boer war, when they invented actual death camps to kill off the families of the Dutch farmers- whose gold and diamonds ((De Beers and Oppenheimer)) coveted. And the Brits been sucking zio-butt ever since.

    If Rothschild farts, the queen and prime minister of England shove each other out of the way to be the first to sniff it. Lately being edged out by the Pope.

    If Rothschild farts, the queen and prime minister of England shove each other out of the way to be the first to sniff it. Lately being edged out by the Pope.

    Lol! That was vivid.

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  103. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnonFromTN
    With all due respect, the author is trying to achieve the impossible: find rational explanation for an irrational behavior. Lately the US and its vassals behave like a cornered rat. The reasons are much greater than Russia. Unipolar world order based on the dominance of the Empire and its faithful vassals is crumbling. The main reason is not Russia, but blinding greed and irrational hubris of the elites, who visibly degenerated after the breakup of the USSR in 1991. The Empire overstretched itself badly militarily, Pentagon contractors are ruining the US economy by their boundless greed, lies of the establishment can no longer be protected in the age of Internet. Thus, the dominant Empire and its goons are losing their positions on all fronts. Both Russia and China would much prefer slow decline of the Empire, particularly very slow loss of dollar value (overall it has to come down about ten-fold to make the US debt manageable). However, cornered rats keep provoking Russia and China in such a way that they have harder and harder time to ignore. A few more provocations like the Skripal affair, which was so ham-handed that the criminals themselves had to change their legend five times in less than a month, and Russia and China might decide that the US must be dealt with like a mad dog: shoot first, ask questions later. That’s the sad state of affairs, exacerbated by glaring intellectual decline of the elites in the US and all its client states.

    irrational behavior

    The behaviour is criminally dangerous and stupid but there is a rationale behind it (method to the madness if you will). You’ve noted yourself that the financial ponzi is stretched to the breaking point. Well, that fake money is paying for the Global Force Projection stick that’s meant to conquer the world for the NWO. It’s “use it or lose it” time.

    Also, the Tribe has foolishly decided to replace their sheep with a short-legged variety that’s supposedly easier to control. Average IQs in the West are sliding. On top of that, nepotism and Affirmative Action are contributing to the inefficient distribution of those IQs. And on top of that, the sheep are unhappy, restless and some of them are waking up and becoming wolves.

    Meanwhile, both Russia and China have avoided clusterfucking their own populations since they aren’t infested with the same parasite. Their people are reasonably united and smart. Nominally, China already has a 7 IQ point advantage over the US and it’s not in the business of forcing Jews and immigrants on its people so, in terms of efficiency, that advantage is much better utilised. All in all, both countries’ competitiveness gap against the West is widening daily.

    So, again, it’s “use it or lose it” time for the Tribe.

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    " Average IQs in the West are sliding "

    The argument of Sarrazin on how Germany destroys itself.
    Thilo Sarrazin, 'Deutschland schafft sich ab, Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen', München 2010
    Merkel fired him immediately.
    , @annamaria
    Spreading the democracy, Cheney style (via the ever foolish opportunist Bolton): https://www.rt.com/usa/423477-bolton-threat-opcw-iraq/
    "Bustani said he "owed nothing" to the US, pointing out that he was appointed by all OPCW [Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] member states. Striking a more sinister tone, Bolton said: "OK, so there will be retaliation. Prepare to accept the consequences. We know where your kids are."
    According to Bustani, two of his children were in New York at the time, and his daughter was in London. He told Bolton: "My family is aware of what's going on, so [they're] prepared to face consequences." The reply shocked Bolton, who then left the office.
    On April 21, 2002, a special meeting was finally held in The Hague, and Bustani's removal was carried out by a vote of 48–7, with 43 abstentions. The diplomat said those who abstained were from developing countries, and that his own government in Brazil "left me behind."
    -- Does Bolton's daughter like her dad's mafioso style? Would she love to have her children put on a crosshair by a bloody warmonger? "Bolton is married to Gretchen Smith Bolton, a financial planner with AXA Advisors. Together they have a daughter, Jennifer, and reside in Bethesda, Maryland." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton#Personal_life
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  104. JR says:
    @Miro23
    Yes, and Mercouris picked up the familiar pre-prepared rush to judgment:

    The single biggest unexplained mystery about the Skripal case is why it attracted so much attention so quickly.Within hours of Sergey and Yulia Skripal being found passed out on a bench the British media were feverishly speculating that they had been poisoned by Russia.

    This despite the fact that no information at that point existed which warranted such speculation, and despite pleas for the investigation to be allowed to take its course from the police and from the government minister responsible for the police, Home Secretary Amber Rudd (who has ever since been conspicuously silent about the whole affair).

    Within three days of Sergey and Yulia Skripal being found on passed out on a bench – and before any information linking the incident to Russia had become publicly available – the British government’s COBRA committee was meeting –

    http://theduran.com/skripal-case-misuse-intelligence/#o9OT6EdYhEmA45Js.99

     

    Actually this rush to judgement was shared with MH17

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  105. JR says:

    Brzezinski’s Introduction: The Grand Chessboard, American Primacy & Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1997)
    Superpower Politics

    EVER SINCE THE CONTINENTS started interacting politically, some five hundred years ago, Eurasia has been the center of world power. In different ways, at different times, the peoples inhabiting Eurasia—though mostly those from its Western European periphery—penetrated and dominated the world’s other regions as individual Eurasian states attained the special status and enjoyed the privileges of being the world’s premier powers.

    The last decade of the twentieth century has witnessed a tectonic shift in world affairs. For the first time ever, a non-Eurasian power has emerged not only as the key arbiter of Eurasian power relations but also as the world’s paramount power. The defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union was the final step in the rapid ascendance of a Western Hemisphere power, the United States, as the sole and, indeed, the first truly global power.

    Eurasia, however, retains its geopolitical importance. Not only is its western periphery—Europe—still the location of much of the world’s political and economic power, but its eastern region— Asia—has lately become a vital center of economic growth and rising political influence. Hence, the issue of how a globally engaged America copes with the complex Eurasian power relationships— and particularly whether it prevents the emergence of a dominant and antagonistic Eurasian power—remains central to America’s capacity to exercise global primacy.

    It follows that—in addition to cultivating the various novel dimensions of power (technology, communications, information, as well as trade and finance)—American foreign policy must remain concerned with the geopolitical dimension and must employ its influence in Eurasia in a manner that creates a stable continental equilibrium, with the United States as the political arbiter.

    Eurasia is thus the chessboard on which the struggle for global primacy continues to be played, and that struggle involves geostrategy—the strategic management of geopolitical interests. It is noteworthy that as recently as 1940 two aspirants to global power, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, agreed explicitly (in the secret negotiations of November of that year) that America should be excluded from Eurasia. Each realized that the injection of American power into Eurasia would preclude his ambitions regarding global domination. Each shared the assumption that Eurasia is the center of the world and that he who controls Eurasia controls the world. A half century later, the issue has been redefined: will America’s primacy in Eurasia endure, and to what ends might it be applied?

    The ultimate objective of American policy should be benign and visionary: to shape a truly cooperative global community, in keeping with long-range trends and with the fundamental interests of humankind. But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the purpose of this book.

    Zbigniew Brzezinski

    Washington, D.C.

    April 1997

    This kind of thinking is an amalgamation of ‘iL Principe’ (the ruler replaced by US hegemony) and ‘Mein Kampf’ (‘Lebensraum’ replaced by ‘control over Eurasia). Academic language ‘realist policies’ serve to cover up the limitless arrogance and immorality.

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  106. @Anonymous

    irrational behavior
     
    The behaviour is criminally dangerous and stupid but there is a rationale behind it (method to the madness if you will). You've noted yourself that the financial ponzi is stretched to the breaking point. Well, that fake money is paying for the Global Force Projection stick that's meant to conquer the world for the NWO. It's "use it or lose it" time.

    Also, the Tribe has foolishly decided to replace their sheep with a short-legged variety that's supposedly easier to control. Average IQs in the West are sliding. On top of that, nepotism and Affirmative Action are contributing to the inefficient distribution of those IQs. And on top of that, the sheep are unhappy, restless and some of them are waking up and becoming wolves.

    Meanwhile, both Russia and China have avoided clusterfucking their own populations since they aren't infested with the same parasite. Their people are reasonably united and smart. Nominally, China already has a 7 IQ point advantage over the US and it's not in the business of forcing Jews and immigrants on its people so, in terms of efficiency, that advantage is much better utilised. All in all, both countries' competitiveness gap against the West is widening daily.

    So, again, it's "use it or lose it" time for the Tribe.

    ” Average IQs in the West are sliding ”

    The argument of Sarrazin on how Germany destroys itself.
    Thilo Sarrazin, ‘Deutschland schafft sich ab, Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen’, München 2010
    Merkel fired him immediately.

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  107. @jacques sheete

    With all due respect, the author is trying to achieve the impossible: find rational explanation for an irrational behavior.
     
    Exactly.

    We're clearly dealing with crackpots. See my comment, #25.

    As brain surgery shows, rational behaviour does not exist.
    Without emotions, no decisions.

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    As brain surgery shows, rational behaviour does not exist.
    Without emotions, no decisions.
     
    Well I ain't no brain surgeon, but WTF?

    Anyway, epistemology asks, what do we know?

    I hardly know myself (JS)!!! ;)
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  108. Miro23 says:
    @FB

    '...Did they really believe they could sustain their campaign long term based upon pure fabrication, bluster and bullshit?

    Is this really all there is to it, or is there some kind of follow up still to come?..'
     
    Obviously this is a stunt perpetrated by the West...since there are only two possibilities...either Russia did it...which is incomprehensible...or the proven liars did it...

    Pretty much a no brainer...

    Now as to the how and why...

    The big issue has been Syria no question about that...we have seen the entire Western regime change project now take the final nail in the coffin with the Ghouta liberation...

    We recall the hysteria surrounding the launch of the Ghouta 'Operation Damascus Steel' with even threats of US cruise missile attacks...and counter threats from the Russians...

    This level of confrontation tells us the Ghouta liberation was a very big deal to the die hard regime changers...who still somehow seem to be in control of the Trump govt...

    This was confirmed by Trump saying he's going to get out...right as soon as Ghouta fell...clearly this last domino to tumble gave Trump the wiggle room to tell the generals 'I told you so now let's get out'...

    At the same time we have the Turks cleaning out the Kurds in Afrin and now threatening to march on Manbij where the US troops are...silly Macron has decided to jump in there causing even more threats from Erdogan...

    Basically the whole thing is collapsing quicker than a wet cardboard box...that's often how these things play out when a decisive turning point is reached...

    Trump's instincts are right to get out now while the getting is good...it can only get worse for the regime changers...

    Now back to Skripal...we had the hysteria about Syria chem weapons just before the SAA and Russian aviation dealt the coup de grace to the bearded fanatics in Ghouta...

    The calculation obviously was that raising the temperature even higher with this fabricated Skripal stunt...might somehow get the Russkies to relent and at least agree to some kind of pause that would let the bearded vermin live another day...

    But none of it worked...I was amazed to see that the Russians have learned their lessons from Aleppo and previous such agit-prop productions...

    They held firm in the UNSC and at the same time the routing of the bearded scum continued unabated and was wrapped up licketty split...

    This was not how it was supposed to go...

    The brainiacs who came up with the Skripal stunt [as part of the Syria campaign] obviously miscalculated badly...

    Now both Ghouta and Afrin have already folded...and Skripal is now exploding in their faces...

    Yes they were that dumb...probably because they were that desperate...

    Let's remember here that just a couple of weeks ago we were at the brink of US Russia war in Syria...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec7DRbE0oUI


    The whole thing boiled down to the good old chemical weapons canard [amazing that they still think they can fool the sheeple with it...and sure enough, judging by some of the morons on this site they still do]...both in Syria and just to add some spice...the Skripal chemical poisoning in the UK...

    So there is now nowhere for this to go except for the inconvenient truth to start coming out...

    The game now is to try to cover up this clumsy and bungled stunt...

    This is why we have Yulia now miraculously recovering...and now the father too...the family cat has been put down and cremated [cover story here is amazing...the cat died of 'malnutrition' while dozens of police combing through the house no one thinks to feed the cat or take it to an animal shelter...hmm...?]

    Now Yulia's cousin Viktoria has been denied a visa to visit the UK and see Yulia...

    WTF...?

    Apparently the embassy staff has not been allowed a consular visit...and it is unclear if one will even be forthcoming at all...[the Vienna convention rules don't matter in the least to the globalist criminals...]

    So the only thing that remains to be seen is whether we will ever find out the truth of this whole stunt...we can of course be certain that it is stunt...a theatrical production as BoJo yapped about in his 'light sabre' mumblings...

    The phone conversation between Yulia and Viktoria is very strange indeed...Yulia foretold that the visa would be denied...clearly she was not free to talk...

    We do not know anything about the actual circumstances of any of this...

    We do not even know that Yulia and her father were even poisoned...never mind a nerve agent...

    How could we possibly know anything...?

    Who has seen them...?

    Whose word are we taking here...?

    So quite clearly this is a stunt related to the Syria meltdown that has gone bad...

    Hopefully the whole sorry thing will be exposed...although there is no way to tell...

    If both Yulia and her father are in on it it will be much more difficult...even if they were not...they will be under some very big pressure...

    The big issue has been Syria no question about that…we have seen the entire Western regime change project now take the final nail in the coffin with the Ghouta liberation…

    Agreed that Eastern Ghouta was their planned False Flag. The Skripal case was some extra detailing (BTW showing that May and Johnson are the same crowd as Tony Blair with his fake Iraqi WMD).

    In late February, the Russian Reconciliation Center in Syria said it had obtained information that militants in the Damascus suburb of Eastern Ghouta had been “preparing a provocation with the use of poisonous substances in order to blame the government forces of using chemical weapons against civilians.”
    The release of this data “has foiled the plans of the US-led coalition to strike key Syrian military targets in order to change the balance of power in favor of the so-called ‘moderate opposition,” he said.

    More than 40 tons of chemical weapons were abandoned by retreating militants in the war-ravaged country, the ministry said on Wednesday. “The Syrian Foreign Ministry pointed out that more than 40 tons of poisonous substances were found on the territories, liberated from terrorists,” Igor Kirillov, the commander of Russia’s Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Protection Forces, said on Wednesday.

    The brainiacs who came up with the Skripal stunt [as part of the Syria campaign] obviously miscalculated badly…

    Now both Ghouta and Afrin have already folded…and Skripal is now exploding in their faces…

    https://www.rt.com/news/421919-chemical-weapons-militants-syria/

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  109. Erebus says:
    @Dacian
    With all due respect for your many interesting postings, I think, this narrative needs a major correction. The best summary is in the preface of a book “The New CommonWealth”:

    “For anyone who has followed closely the events in Eastern Europe for the past thirty years, the systematic absence of one possible scenario from the mainstream media dialog is baffling — namely that today's Russian troubles may be only a shield behind which a more powerful regeneration is in progress. The New York Times Magazine, August 10, 1997, brings up one of many questions to which modern history awaits a convincing answer. On the occasion of former Defense Secretary McNamara's revisiting Vietnam, it reminds us of one such unelucidated inconsistency: "If the reason [for the war in Vietnam] was to fight communism, why did the U.S. not help China in 1949, or why did the U.S. not help the Batista regime in Cuba in 1959?"
    There are indeed significant and puzzling inconsistencies in the story of the Soviet Union's "collapse." Consider the artfulness, bordering on the Machiavellian, and the lengthy effort that went into its demise and one has sufficient grounds for a different tale. The process of "collapse," basically from 1983 on, came about as the country's establishment applied blow after blow to the highly coherent and resilient Soviet system. The most intriguing aspect of this incredible series of events is that behind it was the political will of the elite — the Soviet elite who had decided that the Soviet system must be dismembered, while the so-called disgruntled masses played a minor role. That amounts, but only on a superficial look, to the impression that the elite itself might have voluntarily decided to dismantle and demobilize its own lines of defense and submit to a condition of servitude to the rest of the world. On the contrary, I am not only in agreement with Weir and Kotz and others who ascribe perestroika and the collapse of the Soviet system to the Soviet elite, but I suggest that today's troubles are not a result of a failed perestroika but are only Phase II of perestroika. From socialism to capitalism and back to a superior form of socialism is how the old Marxist dialecticians would phrase it. By compromising both models— the old communist orthodoxy as well as the newer aspirant, casino capitalism—the power establishment makes it possible to bring the country safely back to socialist capitalism.

    But if one accepts this hypothesis, then it becomes the premise of an unsettling line of reasoning. The elite of the second most powerful corporation in the world, the Soviet Union, must have had a self-serving reason to take such risks and must as well have had the opportunity to reformulate its modus operandi.

    If this is so, the further implication would be that the "collapse" was possible not in reaction to a stronger U.S. but precisely because the other superpower also showed every sign of weakness and crisis so that it could not mount any credible offensive, economically or militarily, while the Soviet Union went through its own version of the Great Depression en route toward economic restructuring and political modernization.

    The most plausible interpretation of the series of international issues of the 1980s (the new economic assertiveness of Western Europe and Japan, the war in Afghanistan, the Iran-Iraq craze, the Solidarity movement in Poland, the world debt crisis, etc.) is that they were already setting the framework for a future covenant — "the new world order" — between the former superpowers, to their mutual advantage. That presupposes an early, even pre-1980, agreed armistice and rethinking of the exhausting confrontation.

    If Russia was in a position to let down its guard to the extent that we are witnessing today, it was only because it found itself not in a weak position but in the strongest military-strategic position in its history, free from imminent outside threat as enshrined at Helsinki in the 1975 Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe. Given its control of the world's richest reserves of oil, gas, nuclear material, and raw materials, together with its educated professionals, an unmatched nuclear arsenal*, space technology leadership, etc. — all Russia needed was to repackage its system as a benevolent system, to make it into a soothing and attractive social and economic model, to launch a successful public relations scheme. To succeed at that would be worth the costs and the risks!

    From such a strategic viewpoint one may infer that the dismantling of the Soviet Union was only the first step of the former Soviet elite's new policy of Soviet "market" outreach to the West as well as to the South.

    In the west, Western Europe today seems at its zenith, however, its fate may well have been determined by (1) its military emasculation (by the Treaty of European Conventional Arms Reduction, the 1988 Soviet-U.S. Intermediate Nuclear Forces agreement and START II) and (2) its dependency on Russian controlled oil and gas. In the south, oil producing Iran and Iraq, isolated by United States' Middle East diplomacy, are quietly and slowly sliding further into the deadly embrace of the northern bear.**

    The centuries long Russian-Anglo-American love-hate relationship has been evolving dramatically from late 1978 until today, for sure. However, one might notice that it is being redesigned in such a way as to accommodate in the long run a more assertive, more successful and more powerful Russia overlording its European and southern peripheries.

    A first sketch of such an analysis I presented in 1992 at the ISA conference in Atlanta. For a more detailed analysis of the historical background, of the economic, military and political circumstances of such a probable scenario, you are invited to read the following pages.”

    I’ve heard variants on that theory on a number of occasions, most of them in the ’90s and early 00s. Almost all of them featured the idea that a core group of KGB intellectuals had been studying the world’s grand socio-economic-political mega/meta-trends and basically saw that the end game was going to come upon us all. Strategically, they decided to “collapse now, and avoid the rush”. Dismantle, and rebuild on a different foundation.

    Collapses being what they are, things went pear-shaped and overshot the mark putting Russia and the other Soviet republics into a tailspin they only barely brought under control in the nick of time.

    Yes, they did see the Soviet system as unsustainable, but not much less so than the “capitalist road” that the West was barrelling along. I’ve also read that the successors to that group were responsible for placing Putin in position and forced Yeltsin’s abdication.

    A benign conspiracy theory, if you will. FWIW.

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    But isn’t it even more a belief in conspiracy theories to think that Boris Yeltsin, the first secretary of the CPSU Committee of Sverdlovsk Oblast (effectively the head of one of the most important industrial regions in the USSR) was in secret, by himself, planning sedition through the dismantling of the USSR in the name of its arch enemy?

    In other words, that Boris Yeltsin “conspired” throughout his career, which brought him to the top of the Soviet structure, harboring ultra anti-Soviet schemes without anyone in the security apparatus getting a whiff of it?

    Rather, isn’t more credible, especially in retrospect, to see that the casino capitalism, was created as an obvious theater to shield the real “conspiracy”, while inoculating the populace against any remote sympathy for the degrading American-style capitalism?
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  110. gig says:

    As a Latin American, I call bs on this article. It was Russian/Soviet influence that tied the entire Latin American left with drug dealing, staring with the Colombian and Peruvian Guerrillas in the 70s, and as of today the armies of Bolivia and Venezuela are entirely under control of narcos.

    and the venezuelan regime only remains in power due to Russian and Chinese credit and protection.

    Right now 1,5 million venezuelans are refugees in Colombia, Brazil and other South American countries

    Russia is evil and the main (external) enabler of the communists of the Sao Paulo Forum ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foro_de_S%C3%A3o_Paulo ).

    Russia must be broken into pieces. the Fourth Crusade work should be finished once and for all.

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    You'll have to go back, Pedro. Your "insight" reeks of simple-mindedness and that's something the US doesn't need at the moment.
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  111. @jilles dykstra
    As brain surgery shows, rational behaviour does not exist.
    Without emotions, no decisions.

    As brain surgery shows, rational behaviour does not exist.
    Without emotions, no decisions.

    Well I ain’t no brain surgeon, but WTF?

    Anyway, epistemology asks, what do we know?

    I hardly know myself (JS)!!! ;)

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  112. Avery says:
    @AnonFromTN
    With all due respect, the author is trying to achieve the impossible: find rational explanation for an irrational behavior. Lately the US and its vassals behave like a cornered rat. The reasons are much greater than Russia. Unipolar world order based on the dominance of the Empire and its faithful vassals is crumbling. The main reason is not Russia, but blinding greed and irrational hubris of the elites, who visibly degenerated after the breakup of the USSR in 1991. The Empire overstretched itself badly militarily, Pentagon contractors are ruining the US economy by their boundless greed, lies of the establishment can no longer be protected in the age of Internet. Thus, the dominant Empire and its goons are losing their positions on all fronts. Both Russia and China would much prefer slow decline of the Empire, particularly very slow loss of dollar value (overall it has to come down about ten-fold to make the US debt manageable). However, cornered rats keep provoking Russia and China in such a way that they have harder and harder time to ignore. A few more provocations like the Skripal affair, which was so ham-handed that the criminals themselves had to change their legend five times in less than a month, and Russia and China might decide that the US must be dealt with like a mad dog: shoot first, ask questions later. That’s the sad state of affairs, exacerbated by glaring intellectual decline of the elites in the US and all its client states.

    {and Russia and China might decide that the US must be dealt with like a mad dog: shoot first, ask questions later.}

    Good description as to ‘cornered rat’: well put.

    However, neither Russia nor China will shoot first: both are too smart and rational for that. Russia and China will not be provoked into a shooting war unless (their mainland) attacked directly by US/NATO.

    Russia has been provoked a lot more seriously than the Skripal affair since the breakup of USSR and has kept its cool. E.g. Remember Beslan? Putin made an oblique remark a while back that Russia has evidence that Western intel agencies were involved in the mass murder of Beslan children carried out by Basaev’s group.

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    That’s what I thought before: Russia and China are too rational to start a war, however obnoxious the behavior of the US and its vassals is. However, the US behavior becomes more and more like pestilence in the world. In the times of plague rational people can do things they wouldn’t do under normal circumstances. So, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
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  113. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @FB

    '...Did they really believe they could sustain their campaign long term based upon pure fabrication, bluster and bullshit?

    Is this really all there is to it, or is there some kind of follow up still to come?..'
     
    Obviously this is a stunt perpetrated by the West...since there are only two possibilities...either Russia did it...which is incomprehensible...or the proven liars did it...

    Pretty much a no brainer...

    Now as to the how and why...

    The big issue has been Syria no question about that...we have seen the entire Western regime change project now take the final nail in the coffin with the Ghouta liberation...

    We recall the hysteria surrounding the launch of the Ghouta 'Operation Damascus Steel' with even threats of US cruise missile attacks...and counter threats from the Russians...

    This level of confrontation tells us the Ghouta liberation was a very big deal to the die hard regime changers...who still somehow seem to be in control of the Trump govt...

    This was confirmed by Trump saying he's going to get out...right as soon as Ghouta fell...clearly this last domino to tumble gave Trump the wiggle room to tell the generals 'I told you so now let's get out'...

    At the same time we have the Turks cleaning out the Kurds in Afrin and now threatening to march on Manbij where the US troops are...silly Macron has decided to jump in there causing even more threats from Erdogan...

    Basically the whole thing is collapsing quicker than a wet cardboard box...that's often how these things play out when a decisive turning point is reached...

    Trump's instincts are right to get out now while the getting is good...it can only get worse for the regime changers...

    Now back to Skripal...we had the hysteria about Syria chem weapons just before the SAA and Russian aviation dealt the coup de grace to the bearded fanatics in Ghouta...

    The calculation obviously was that raising the temperature even higher with this fabricated Skripal stunt...might somehow get the Russkies to relent and at least agree to some kind of pause that would let the bearded vermin live another day...

    But none of it worked...I was amazed to see that the Russians have learned their lessons from Aleppo and previous such agit-prop productions...

    They held firm in the UNSC and at the same time the routing of the bearded scum continued unabated and was wrapped up licketty split...

    This was not how it was supposed to go...

    The brainiacs who came up with the Skripal stunt [as part of the Syria campaign] obviously miscalculated badly...

    Now both Ghouta and Afrin have already folded...and Skripal is now exploding in their faces...

    Yes they were that dumb...probably because they were that desperate...

    Let's remember here that just a couple of weeks ago we were at the brink of US Russia war in Syria...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec7DRbE0oUI


    The whole thing boiled down to the good old chemical weapons canard [amazing that they still think they can fool the sheeple with it...and sure enough, judging by some of the morons on this site they still do]...both in Syria and just to add some spice...the Skripal chemical poisoning in the UK...

    So there is now nowhere for this to go except for the inconvenient truth to start coming out...

    The game now is to try to cover up this clumsy and bungled stunt...

    This is why we have Yulia now miraculously recovering...and now the father too...the family cat has been put down and cremated [cover story here is amazing...the cat died of 'malnutrition' while dozens of police combing through the house no one thinks to feed the cat or take it to an animal shelter...hmm...?]

    Now Yulia's cousin Viktoria has been denied a visa to visit the UK and see Yulia...

    WTF...?

    Apparently the embassy staff has not been allowed a consular visit...and it is unclear if one will even be forthcoming at all...[the Vienna convention rules don't matter in the least to the globalist criminals...]

    So the only thing that remains to be seen is whether we will ever find out the truth of this whole stunt...we can of course be certain that it is stunt...a theatrical production as BoJo yapped about in his 'light sabre' mumblings...

    The phone conversation between Yulia and Viktoria is very strange indeed...Yulia foretold that the visa would be denied...clearly she was not free to talk...

    We do not know anything about the actual circumstances of any of this...

    We do not even know that Yulia and her father were even poisoned...never mind a nerve agent...

    How could we possibly know anything...?

    Who has seen them...?

    Whose word are we taking here...?

    So quite clearly this is a stunt related to the Syria meltdown that has gone bad...

    Hopefully the whole sorry thing will be exposed...although there is no way to tell...

    If both Yulia and her father are in on it it will be much more difficult...even if they were not...they will be under some very big pressure...

    Hopefully the whole sorry thing will be exposed…although there is no way to tell…

    The problem for the Brits is that most of their political elite are morons, shills or creeps, so that even if Thereason may and BoJo are exposed for the NoviJoke scam, there is unlikely to be anyone honest, well-intentioned and competent to take their places.

    Over the last generation, the talent in Britain has mainly gone into the entertainments industry or the FIRE economy. Jonathan Lynn, who co-wrote the British TV series “Yes Minister,” once remarked that, he had joined the Cambridge Union (debating society) in his first year at the University of Cambridge because he thought that he might like to enter politics. What he observed was that:

    All of the main debaters there, aged twenty, were the most pompous, self-satisfied, self-important bunch of clowns that I’ve ever clapped eyes on. They were all behaving as if they were on the government front bench, and twenty years later they all were: Michael Howard; John Selwyn Gummer; Kenneth Clarke. I thought at that point that the only way that I could ever contribute to politics is making fun of the politicians.

    That is why Britain is ruled by a bunch of clueless, irresponsible and treasonous morons.

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    '...Over the last generation, the talent in Britain has mainly gone into the entertainments industry or the FIRE economy...'
     
    Yup...

    Phil Butler has a good piece up today about the 'brains' behind the US 'stink tank' industry...


    '...The most interesting and sickly funny of think tanks in our nation’s capital, the Jewish Institute for National Security of America does a whole lot of talking and not much thinking about how Israel lobbying is looking to intelligent folks. Let me quote from the lead story at their website:

    “Consistent with the Trump Administration’s stated intention of pushing back against Iran’s increasingly malign behavior throughout the Middle East, American policymakers urgently need to rebuild credibility and positions of strength by contesting Iran’s rising influence across the region.

    Most urgently, the United States must impose real obstacles to Tehran’s pursuit of total victory by the Assad regime in Syria.”..'
     


     
    I have to admit that I have always been resistant to the tail wagging the dog theory that is rampant in some circles...including here on this thread...but certainly Butler states the case plainly...

    '...For those of you wondering if the tail is wagging the dog. If anybody out there needs to know who wanted Assad gone.

    Should a European woman who’s been raped by one of those majority male refugees question her plight…'
     

    No need to go into the 'refugee' paradise setting up shop everywhere in Europe...

    Here's an idea...why not just bus the bearded fanatics and their ninja-clad wives straight from Ghouta to Germany...?

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  114. That is why Britain is ruled by a bunch of clueless, irresponsible and treasonous morons.

    They say bad money drives out the good money. It appears that something similar is at work in politics.

    I was really too honest a man to be a politician and live.

    -Socrates

    That is why the US and Israel are ruled by a bunch of clueless, irresponsible and treasonous morons as well.

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    They say bad money drives out the good money. It appears that something similar is at work in politics.
     
    The mechanism emerges from the party system that underlies parliamentary democracy.

    The notion that people have of democracy is that the people choose who they want to represent them. However, the only candidates they get to chose among are representatives of the main political parties, and those candidates must all be vetted and approved by party HQ (when they are not simply parachuted in by the central office).

    Thus, MPs don't represent the people in government, they represent the government to the people (that's if they do anything at all).

    So parliamentary "democracy" means government by a one or other of a couple of cliques, which depend for election battle funding on corporate donations (contingent on industry-favorable legislation), donations from crooks seeking a public appointment or payback in some other form, under-the-table contributions in brown paper bags and old suitcases from foreign entities, and the traditional form of political bribery under a "democratic" government, namely, payoffs received after office.

    After-office payoffs are always made, not because the crooks making them are honest, but because they have to instill confidence in the new crop of shills, liars and traitors in office that they, in their turn, will get their reward.

    After office compensation for services to special interests, foreign countries and the globalist elite, include massive and totally ridiculous advances on royalties for crap autobiographies that no sane person would read (sales of which are always reported to be record breaking), plus lucrative corporate directorships.

    Oh and then there are the donations to charitable foundations that are not illegal, even when made while the crook, liar, shill and traitor beneficiary is still in office.

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  115. Dacian says:
    @Erebus
    I've heard variants on that theory on a number of occasions, most of them in the '90s and early 00s. Almost all of them featured the idea that a core group of KGB intellectuals had been studying the world's grand socio-economic-political mega/meta-trends and basically saw that the end game was going to come upon us all. Strategically, they decided to "collapse now, and avoid the rush". Dismantle, and rebuild on a different foundation.

    Collapses being what they are, things went pear-shaped and overshot the mark putting Russia and the other Soviet republics into a tailspin they only barely brought under control in the nick of time.

    Yes, they did see the Soviet system as unsustainable, but not much less so than the "capitalist road" that the West was barrelling along. I've also read that the successors to that group were responsible for placing Putin in position and forced Yeltsin's abdication.

    A benign conspiracy theory, if you will. FWIW.

    But isn’t it even more a belief in conspiracy theories to think that Boris Yeltsin, the first secretary of the CPSU Committee of Sverdlovsk Oblast (effectively the head of one of the most important industrial regions in the USSR) was in secret, by himself, planning sedition through the dismantling of the USSR in the name of its arch enemy?

    In other words, that Boris Yeltsin “conspired” throughout his career, which brought him to the top of the Soviet structure, harboring ultra anti-Soviet schemes without anyone in the security apparatus getting a whiff of it?

    Rather, isn’t more credible, especially in retrospect, to see that the casino capitalism, was created as an obvious theater to shield the real “conspiracy”, while inoculating the populace against any remote sympathy for the degrading American-style capitalism?

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    It is from shit happens bad luck angle. There never was a sure thing Gorbachov would be General secretary and he would bring Eltsin to Moscow. Nobody could predict Lenin and Stalin and how they were able to rise Russia to superstardom. Looks like higher powers at play. What about Putin?
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  116. expat says:

    “The Historical Context for Western Aggression

    Several fundamental historical factors dating back to the 1990’s account for the current surge in Western hostility to Russia.”

    I’m sure Mr. Petras knows that the hatred of Russia goes much farther back than the 1990. Just as a reminder, here are a few of the times the west invaded:

    • 1204 – The Church of Rome launched a Crusade against Orthodox Christianity to crush it out of existence. Didn’t work.
    • 1610 – Sweden
    • 1708 – Sweden in the Great Northern War
    • 1711 – Ottoman Turks with a Swedish general
    • 1812 – Invaded by 12 western countries
    • 1854 – Napoleon invades with Great Britain and Turks
    • 1914 – WWI, invaded by Austro-Hungary and Germany
    • 1941 – WWII Germany

    Seems there is a pattern here.

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  117. @Mark Presco
    There may be a common connection to all of this. I’m no expert, but it may have something with the petro-dollar. Ever since the dollar went off the gold standard, being tied to oil commerce is the only thing backing it.

    Apparently Saddam and Gaddafi threatened this arrangement and look what happened to them. Now maybe Russia is the threat.

    I just read an article about plans to back the dollar with gold again. What will happen if oil is no longer traded in dollars?

    I am not en economist (thank goodness!), but petro-dollar indeed appears to be the foundation of the current Ponzi scheme. But there is no moving back to gold. The US gold reserves are most likely a myth (or a fraud, if you prefer legal language): the US is very reluctant to return gold to European countries that stupidly gave it to the US for safekeeping, and it is never returned in the form of those gold bricks that actually were deposited, suggesting that they do not exist any more. Last month China introduced the trade in oil futures for yuans (the official name of their currency is renminbi), which is sure to remove the last pillar supporting dollar Ponzi scheme. The US elites got scared and started a trade war with China in response, which the US is almost certain to lose: just go to any US store and try finding something that is not made in China, from socks to computers; your success rate would be remarkably low, and even when you are lucky, the thing in question would be made in Malaysia, Taiwan, Vietnam, Philippines, etc. As Heraclitus said, you cannot enter the same river twice. That is one of the reasons for cornered rat behavior we are witnessing.

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  118. @Avery
    {and Russia and China might decide that the US must be dealt with like a mad dog: shoot first, ask questions later.}

    Good description as to 'cornered rat': well put.

    However, neither Russia nor China will shoot first: both are too smart and rational for that. Russia and China will not be provoked into a shooting war unless (their mainland) attacked directly by US/NATO.

    Russia has been provoked a lot more seriously than the Skripal affair since the breakup of USSR and has kept its cool. E.g. Remember Beslan? Putin made an oblique remark a while back that Russia has evidence that Western intel agencies were involved in the mass murder of Beslan children carried out by Basaev's group.

    That’s what I thought before: Russia and China are too rational to start a war, however obnoxious the behavior of the US and its vassals is. However, the US behavior becomes more and more like pestilence in the world. In the times of plague rational people can do things they wouldn’t do under normal circumstances. So, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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    Still it is better to jaw jaw then to war war. The power of modern weapons is such that it is suicidal. I am not even talking nukes. Do you remember The West 1981 excercise? In Serve The Soviet Union one general then said that Soviet motorrifle division firepower rose 45 times compared to 1945 counterpart. As I have learned computerised battle management was first time used during that excercise to keep tempo at maximum speed and as close as possible to enemy while deploying absolutely terrifying concentration of firepower. It was calculated the whole of NATO forces available at the time would last 2 days under this conditions. I think it must be even worse this time firepower and control. Worse for human flesh I mean. Anyway, if America crosses all red lines and conflict looks imminent and russia decided enough is enough it is the best to dust off the West 1981 notebooks and strike hard and quickly to do what Germans did in 1940. I was reading about Alexander Souvorov recently. I think his vision is more relevant now then ever.
    , @Ron Unz

    That’s what I thought before: Russia and China are too rational to start a war, however obnoxious the behavior of the US and its vassals is. However, the US behavior becomes more and more like pestilence in the world. In the times of plague rational people can do things they wouldn’t do under normal circumstances. So, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
     
    This very pessimistic assessment seems increasingly reasonable to me. A couple of years ago, I described our sad country as a beast infected with rabies.

    Or to apply a far harsher biological metaphor, consider a poor canine infected with the rabies virus. The virus may have no brain and its body-weight is probably less than one-millionth that of the host, but once it has seized control of the central nervous system, the animal, big brain and all, becomes a helpless puppet.

    Once friendly Fido runs around foaming at the mouth, barking at the sky, and trying to bite all the other animals it can reach. Its friends and relatives are saddened by its plight but stay well clear, hoping to avoid infection before the inevitable happens, and poor Fido finally collapses dead in a heap.
     
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/sane-gessen-a-nice-putin-wouldnt-behave-much-differently/#comment-884397

    Obviously, other animals would prefer to carefully avoid any dangerous contact until a full physical collapse occurs, but if they're relentlessly pursued, they might be forced to strike back, hoping they can somehow avoid any potentially lethal bite...
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  119. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @gig
    As a Latin American, I call bs on this article. It was Russian/Soviet influence that tied the entire Latin American left with drug dealing, staring with the Colombian and Peruvian Guerrillas in the 70s, and as of today the armies of Bolivia and Venezuela are entirely under control of narcos.

    and the venezuelan regime only remains in power due to Russian and Chinese credit and protection.

    Right now 1,5 million venezuelans are refugees in Colombia, Brazil and other South American countries

    Russia is evil and the main (external) enabler of the communists of the Sao Paulo Forum ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foro_de_S%C3%A3o_Paulo ).

    Russia must be broken into pieces. the Fourth Crusade work should be finished once and for all.

    You’ll have to go back, Pedro. Your “insight” reeks of simple-mindedness and that’s something the US doesn’t need at the moment.

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  120. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @jacques sheete

    That is why Britain is ruled by a bunch of clueless, irresponsible and treasonous morons.

     

    They say bad money drives out the good money. It appears that something similar is at work in politics.

    I was really too honest a man to be a politician and live.

    -Socrates

     

    That is why the US and Israel are ruled by a bunch of clueless, irresponsible and treasonous morons as well.

    They say bad money drives out the good money. It appears that something similar is at work in politics.

    The mechanism emerges from the party system that underlies parliamentary democracy.

    The notion that people have of democracy is that the people choose who they want to represent them. However, the only candidates they get to chose among are representatives of the main political parties, and those candidates must all be vetted and approved by party HQ (when they are not simply parachuted in by the central office).

    Thus, MPs don’t represent the people in government, they represent the government to the people (that’s if they do anything at all).

    So parliamentary “democracy” means government by a one or other of a couple of cliques, which depend for election battle funding on corporate donations (contingent on industry-favorable legislation), donations from crooks seeking a public appointment or payback in some other form, under-the-table contributions in brown paper bags and old suitcases from foreign entities, and the traditional form of political bribery under a “democratic” government, namely, payoffs received after office.

    After-office payoffs are always made, not because the crooks making them are honest, but because they have to instill confidence in the new crop of shills, liars and traitors in office that they, in their turn, will get their reward.

    After office compensation for services to special interests, foreign countries and the globalist elite, include massive and totally ridiculous advances on royalties for crap autobiographies that no sane person would read (sales of which are always reported to be record breaking), plus lucrative corporate directorships.

    Oh and then there are the donations to charitable foundations that are not illegal, even when made while the crook, liar, shill and traitor beneficiary is still in office.

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  121. annamaria says:
    @Anonymous

    irrational behavior
     
    The behaviour is criminally dangerous and stupid but there is a rationale behind it (method to the madness if you will). You've noted yourself that the financial ponzi is stretched to the breaking point. Well, that fake money is paying for the Global Force Projection stick that's meant to conquer the world for the NWO. It's "use it or lose it" time.

    Also, the Tribe has foolishly decided to replace their sheep with a short-legged variety that's supposedly easier to control. Average IQs in the West are sliding. On top of that, nepotism and Affirmative Action are contributing to the inefficient distribution of those IQs. And on top of that, the sheep are unhappy, restless and some of them are waking up and becoming wolves.

    Meanwhile, both Russia and China have avoided clusterfucking their own populations since they aren't infested with the same parasite. Their people are reasonably united and smart. Nominally, China already has a 7 IQ point advantage over the US and it's not in the business of forcing Jews and immigrants on its people so, in terms of efficiency, that advantage is much better utilised. All in all, both countries' competitiveness gap against the West is widening daily.

    So, again, it's "use it or lose it" time for the Tribe.

    Spreading the democracy, Cheney style (via the ever foolish opportunist Bolton): https://www.rt.com/usa/423477-bolton-threat-opcw-iraq/
    “Bustani said he “owed nothing” to the US, pointing out that he was appointed by all OPCW [Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons] member states. Striking a more sinister tone, Bolton said: “OK, so there will be retaliation. Prepare to accept the consequences. We know where your kids are.”
    According to Bustani, two of his children were in New York at the time, and his daughter was in London. He told Bolton: “My family is aware of what’s going on, so [they're] prepared to face consequences.” The reply shocked Bolton, who then left the office.
    On April 21, 2002, a special meeting was finally held in The Hague, and Bustani’s removal was carried out by a vote of 48–7, with 43 abstentions. The diplomat said those who abstained were from developing countries, and that his own government in Brazil “left me behind.”
    – Does Bolton’s daughter like her dad’s mafioso style? Would she love to have her children put on a crosshair by a bloody warmonger? “Bolton is married to Gretchen Smith Bolton, a financial planner with AXA Advisors. Together they have a daughter, Jennifer, and reside in Bethesda, Maryland.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton#Personal_life

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  122. H. D. says:

    Why the UK, the EU and the US Gang-Up on Russia

    Probable answer: this will make it easier for NATO and its bankers to destabilize Russia and invade Iran:

    The Rothschilds’ March To WWIII

    https://hendersonlefthook.wordpress.com/2018/03/27/the-rothschilds-march-to-wwiii/

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  123. @Dacian
    But isn’t it even more a belief in conspiracy theories to think that Boris Yeltsin, the first secretary of the CPSU Committee of Sverdlovsk Oblast (effectively the head of one of the most important industrial regions in the USSR) was in secret, by himself, planning sedition through the dismantling of the USSR in the name of its arch enemy?

    In other words, that Boris Yeltsin “conspired” throughout his career, which brought him to the top of the Soviet structure, harboring ultra anti-Soviet schemes without anyone in the security apparatus getting a whiff of it?

    Rather, isn’t more credible, especially in retrospect, to see that the casino capitalism, was created as an obvious theater to shield the real “conspiracy”, while inoculating the populace against any remote sympathy for the degrading American-style capitalism?

    It is from shit happens bad luck angle. There never was a sure thing Gorbachov would be General secretary and he would bring Eltsin to Moscow. Nobody could predict Lenin and Stalin and how they were able to rise Russia to superstardom. Looks like higher powers at play. What about Putin?

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    You don’t need to bring super-natural agency into it. Russians figured that they were fooled by “democracy” as early as 1993. There was an uprising in Moscow, Yeltsin was impeached, and had to resort to totally illegal measures, including tanks shooting at the Parliament, disbanding Supreme Court, and mass murder of protesters. Russians showed that they did not forget this in 1996 – Yeltsin actually lost the elections, although he was able to falsify the results with the blessing of “democratic” countries: the usual suspects, the US and its European vassals. Considering the way Russia was going down the drain, it is very likely that later Yeltsin was “strongly advised” by influential people in power to resign and bring Putin to power in exchange for forgiveness of his numerous crimes. Too bad he, his family, and Russian oligarchs were not punished for what they did to Russia in the 1990s: public hanging would have been the most humane punishment one can think of.
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  124. @AnonFromTN
    That’s what I thought before: Russia and China are too rational to start a war, however obnoxious the behavior of the US and its vassals is. However, the US behavior becomes more and more like pestilence in the world. In the times of plague rational people can do things they wouldn’t do under normal circumstances. So, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    Still it is better to jaw jaw then to war war. The power of modern weapons is such that it is suicidal. I am not even talking nukes. Do you remember The West 1981 excercise? In Serve The Soviet Union one general then said that Soviet motorrifle division firepower rose 45 times compared to 1945 counterpart. As I have learned computerised battle management was first time used during that excercise to keep tempo at maximum speed and as close as possible to enemy while deploying absolutely terrifying concentration of firepower. It was calculated the whole of NATO forces available at the time would last 2 days under this conditions. I think it must be even worse this time firepower and control. Worse for human flesh I mean. Anyway, if America crosses all red lines and conflict looks imminent and russia decided enough is enough it is the best to dust off the West 1981 notebooks and strike hard and quickly to do what Germans did in 1940. I was reading about Alexander Souvorov recently. I think his vision is more relevant now then ever.

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  125. @Sergey Krieger
    It is from shit happens bad luck angle. There never was a sure thing Gorbachov would be General secretary and he would bring Eltsin to Moscow. Nobody could predict Lenin and Stalin and how they were able to rise Russia to superstardom. Looks like higher powers at play. What about Putin?

    You don’t need to bring super-natural agency into it. Russians figured that they were fooled by “democracy” as early as 1993. There was an uprising in Moscow, Yeltsin was impeached, and had to resort to totally illegal measures, including tanks shooting at the Parliament, disbanding Supreme Court, and mass murder of protesters. Russians showed that they did not forget this in 1996 – Yeltsin actually lost the elections, although he was able to falsify the results with the blessing of “democratic” countries: the usual suspects, the US and its European vassals. Considering the way Russia was going down the drain, it is very likely that later Yeltsin was “strongly advised” by influential people in power to resign and bring Putin to power in exchange for forgiveness of his numerous crimes. Too bad he, his family, and Russian oligarchs were not punished for what they did to Russia in the 1990s: public hanging would have been the most humane punishment one can think of.

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    8This makes current arrangement illegal. I mean whatever anyone of olygarhs owns is stolen property. It requires will to act from the top and anyone up there would have had huge support from population. Regarding Yeltsin, unearthing this pig and burrying him where pigs or ducks shit on his bones for eternity will be enough. The question arises why Putin keeps those thieves around. Having so much in so few hands is ineffective. With all resources back in state hands most of current problems could have been resolved. Especially if improved Gosplan is back with everything else.
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  126. So far, to get NATO on red alert and start WW3, we have two dead guinea pigs and one dead cat. Are the Russians really that bad at what we think they do?

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    '...So far, to get NATO on red alert and start WW3, we have two dead guinea pigs and one dead cat...'
     
    Well...let's not understate this either...

    Losing a beloved family pet is not something that was necessary...I applaud PETA for placing the blame on the criminal May govt...

    Also Russia's UN envoy is calling for an explanation of the animals' deaths...

    It turns out that the Skripal family vet called authorities to tell them about the household pets as soon as he heard the news about the Skripals...yet the cat was supposedly only found days later...so malnourished that she had to be put down...and cremated of course...

    And here's the kicker...the cat was put down at Porton Down...and cremnated there...

    Move along...nothing to see here...


    https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2018/04/06/10/yulia-cat.jpeg
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  127. @AnonFromTN
    You don’t need to bring super-natural agency into it. Russians figured that they were fooled by “democracy” as early as 1993. There was an uprising in Moscow, Yeltsin was impeached, and had to resort to totally illegal measures, including tanks shooting at the Parliament, disbanding Supreme Court, and mass murder of protesters. Russians showed that they did not forget this in 1996 – Yeltsin actually lost the elections, although he was able to falsify the results with the blessing of “democratic” countries: the usual suspects, the US and its European vassals. Considering the way Russia was going down the drain, it is very likely that later Yeltsin was “strongly advised” by influential people in power to resign and bring Putin to power in exchange for forgiveness of his numerous crimes. Too bad he, his family, and Russian oligarchs were not punished for what they did to Russia in the 1990s: public hanging would have been the most humane punishment one can think of.

    8This makes current arrangement illegal. I mean whatever anyone of olygarhs owns is stolen property. It requires will to act from the top and anyone up there would have had huge support from population. Regarding Yeltsin, unearthing this pig and burrying him where pigs or ducks shit on his bones for eternity will be enough. The question arises why Putin keeps those thieves around. Having so much in so few hands is ineffective. With all resources back in state hands most of current problems could have been resolved. Especially if improved Gosplan is back with everything else.

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    Some people think that Putin is just upholding the original bargain that brought him to power. I don’t know.
    I agree that all oligarchs are thieves and their riches are stolen property that should be returned. However, I don’t think that planned economy is an answer. Maybe I am biased, but I remember trying to do science under planned economy. We even had money (I worked at the Institute of Bioorganic Chemistry, run by Ovchinnikov, who was a candidate member of the Central Committee of the Communist party), but we had to order reagents a year ahead. This was totally ridiculous: if I knew what I am going to need in a year, I’d be writing papers, not doing experiments.
    There are parts of economy that need long-term planning, and those should be run by the state. However, production of consumer goods should be private, market-driven, not planned. The task of the state is to enforce the laws that allow the economy to develop and to control the parts that do not bring quick profits and require long-term view, like infrastructure, education, health care, fundamental science, etc. Socks and nails are best produced by private non-planned enterprise, whereas military hardware is best produced by the state, to exclude greedy parasites, like Pentagon contractors.
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  128. Ron Unz says:
    @AnonFromTN
    That’s what I thought before: Russia and China are too rational to start a war, however obnoxious the behavior of the US and its vassals is. However, the US behavior becomes more and more like pestilence in the world. In the times of plague rational people can do things they wouldn’t do under normal circumstances. So, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    That’s what I thought before: Russia and China are too rational to start a war, however obnoxious the behavior of the US and its vassals is. However, the US behavior becomes more and more like pestilence in the world. In the times of plague rational people can do things they wouldn’t do under normal circumstances. So, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

    This very pessimistic assessment seems increasingly reasonable to me. A couple of years ago, I described our sad country as a beast infected with rabies.

    Or to apply a far harsher biological metaphor, consider a poor canine infected with the rabies virus. The virus may have no brain and its body-weight is probably less than one-millionth that of the host, but once it has seized control of the central nervous system, the animal, big brain and all, becomes a helpless puppet.

    Once friendly Fido runs around foaming at the mouth, barking at the sky, and trying to bite all the other animals it can reach. Its friends and relatives are saddened by its plight but stay well clear, hoping to avoid infection before the inevitable happens, and poor Fido finally collapses dead in a heap.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/sane-gessen-a-nice-putin-wouldnt-behave-much-differently/#comment-884397

    Obviously, other animals would prefer to carefully avoid any dangerous contact until a full physical collapse occurs, but if they’re relentlessly pursued, they might be forced to strike back, hoping they can somehow avoid any potentially lethal bite…

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    My point exactly. Ruling elites in the US are just like rabies virus: parasites killing the host. As I live in the US, I still hope that the host can be saved, but with every passing year I am less and less sure that this is possible.
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  129. @Sergey Krieger
    8This makes current arrangement illegal. I mean whatever anyone of olygarhs owns is stolen property. It requires will to act from the top and anyone up there would have had huge support from population. Regarding Yeltsin, unearthing this pig and burrying him where pigs or ducks shit on his bones for eternity will be enough. The question arises why Putin keeps those thieves around. Having so much in so few hands is ineffective. With all resources back in state hands most of current problems could have been resolved. Especially if improved Gosplan is back with everything else.

    Some people think that Putin is just upholding the original bargain that brought him to power. I don’t know.
    I agree that all oligarchs are thieves and their riches are stolen property that should be returned. However, I don’t think that planned economy is an answer. Maybe I am biased, but I remember trying to do science under planned economy. We even had money (I worked at the Institute of Bioorganic Chemistry, run by Ovchinnikov, who was a candidate member of the Central Committee of the Communist party), but we had to order reagents a year ahead. This was totally ridiculous: if I knew what I am going to need in a year, I’d be writing papers, not doing experiments.
    There are parts of economy that need long-term planning, and those should be run by the state. However, production of consumer goods should be private, market-driven, not planned. The task of the state is to enforce the laws that allow the economy to develop and to control the parts that do not bring quick profits and require long-term view, like infrastructure, education, health care, fundamental science, etc. Socks and nails are best produced by private non-planned enterprise, whereas military hardware is best produced by the state, to exclude greedy parasites, like Pentagon contractors.

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    I do not think it would have been done exactly the way it used to be. Lessons must be learned by competent people who would make sure that past mistakes are not repeated. The basis of state ownership for people good and people rights as they used to be restored but definitely controlling everything up to the number of socks should not be returned. The process is dialectical. But it must be started somehow. Capitalism and private ownership of the means of production and other resources is a past and it had ran it course which becomes obvious. The problem is that alternative is not here like it used to be 30-40 years ago. Putin liberal policies in this regard are strange to me. It might be due to his personal experience and surcumstances. Promise made 19 years ago to some thieves... sounds strange.
    , @FB

    '...There are parts of economy that need long-term planning, and those should be run by the state. However, production of consumer goods should be private, market-driven, not planned.

    The task of the state is to enforce the laws that allow the economy to develop and to control the parts that do not bring quick profits and require long-term view, like infrastructure, education, health care, fundamental science, etc.

    Socks and nails are best produced by private non-planned enterprise, whereas military hardware is best produced by the state, to exclude greedy parasites, like Pentagon contractors...'
     
    I agree with this completely...

    But the problem with our ponzi economy is that we have gone way beyond that...everything is financialized...which means a FIRE sector that is like a flat tax of about a third of our economy...

    I think it was you that mentioned that the only thing holding this house of cards up is the petrodollar...I have mentioned before world oil trade is 14 trillion USD...
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  130. @Ron Unz

    That’s what I thought before: Russia and China are too rational to start a war, however obnoxious the behavior of the US and its vassals is. However, the US behavior becomes more and more like pestilence in the world. In the times of plague rational people can do things they wouldn’t do under normal circumstances. So, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
     
    This very pessimistic assessment seems increasingly reasonable to me. A couple of years ago, I described our sad country as a beast infected with rabies.

    Or to apply a far harsher biological metaphor, consider a poor canine infected with the rabies virus. The virus may have no brain and its body-weight is probably less than one-millionth that of the host, but once it has seized control of the central nervous system, the animal, big brain and all, becomes a helpless puppet.

    Once friendly Fido runs around foaming at the mouth, barking at the sky, and trying to bite all the other animals it can reach. Its friends and relatives are saddened by its plight but stay well clear, hoping to avoid infection before the inevitable happens, and poor Fido finally collapses dead in a heap.
     
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/sane-gessen-a-nice-putin-wouldnt-behave-much-differently/#comment-884397

    Obviously, other animals would prefer to carefully avoid any dangerous contact until a full physical collapse occurs, but if they're relentlessly pursued, they might be forced to strike back, hoping they can somehow avoid any potentially lethal bite...

    My point exactly. Ruling elites in the US are just like rabies virus: parasites killing the host. As I live in the US, I still hope that the host can be saved, but with every passing year I am less and less sure that this is possible.

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    Ruling elites in the US are just like rabies virus: parasites killing the host.
     
    I think that is a far from accurate analogy. Elites are generally power-maximizing and psychopathic. Members of the elite who are not psychopaths emulate psychopathic behavior because that is the winning strategy.

    In the international sphere, national elites compete, one on one, or more usually in alliances, to mug one another. Major conflicts are followed by periods of recovery, reconstruction and rearmament. Russia lost its empire in 1991 and in its thus weakened condition became a prime target for Western takeover, break-up and exploitation.

    Initially the plan was to proceed by subversion, color revolution, bribery and corruption. But Putin saw off that attack, and rebuilt Russia's military.

    Now the (US-led) Western objective is to soften Russia up by way of indirect conflicts in Syria and Iran, while undermining the economy of Russia's ally, China. The hope must be that the conflict will be so damaging to Russia's economy and the welfare of the Russian people, that Putin or his successor will be discredited and the Fifth Column empowered (a direct assault on Russia being precluded by Russia's vast strategic nuclear arsenal).

    The same analysis can be applied to the World wars, the Napoleonic wars, and the earlier struggles among Britain, Holland, France and Spain. So we are dealing not with mindless madness but psychopathology, which tends to be hugely damaging to the interests of the common people (a fact of no consequence to the elite), although if "our side" wins a round, we may all be better off for a generation or so, as in the case of the US following WWII.

    Can this age-old pattern change. It's hard to see how, although if the struggle goes nuclear, there will surely be a longish pause, maybe a thousand years, before the conflict is renewed.

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  131. @AnonFromTN
    Some people think that Putin is just upholding the original bargain that brought him to power. I don’t know.
    I agree that all oligarchs are thieves and their riches are stolen property that should be returned. However, I don’t think that planned economy is an answer. Maybe I am biased, but I remember trying to do science under planned economy. We even had money (I worked at the Institute of Bioorganic Chemistry, run by Ovchinnikov, who was a candidate member of the Central Committee of the Communist party), but we had to order reagents a year ahead. This was totally ridiculous: if I knew what I am going to need in a year, I’d be writing papers, not doing experiments.
    There are parts of economy that need long-term planning, and those should be run by the state. However, production of consumer goods should be private, market-driven, not planned. The task of the state is to enforce the laws that allow the economy to develop and to control the parts that do not bring quick profits and require long-term view, like infrastructure, education, health care, fundamental science, etc. Socks and nails are best produced by private non-planned enterprise, whereas military hardware is best produced by the state, to exclude greedy parasites, like Pentagon contractors.

    I do not think it would have been done exactly the way it used to be. Lessons must be learned by competent people who would make sure that past mistakes are not repeated. The basis of state ownership for people good and people rights as they used to be restored but definitely controlling everything up to the number of socks should not be returned. The process is dialectical. But it must be started somehow. Capitalism and private ownership of the means of production and other resources is a past and it had ran it course which becomes obvious. The problem is that alternative is not here like it used to be 30-40 years ago. Putin liberal policies in this regard are strange to me. It might be due to his personal experience and surcumstances. Promise made 19 years ago to some thieves… sounds strange.

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  132. FB says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Hopefully the whole sorry thing will be exposed…although there is no way to tell…
     
    The problem for the Brits is that most of their political elite are morons, shills or creeps, so that even if Thereason may and BoJo are exposed for the NoviJoke scam, there is unlikely to be anyone honest, well-intentioned and competent to take their places.

    Over the last generation, the talent in Britain has mainly gone into the entertainments industry or the FIRE economy. Jonathan Lynn, who co-wrote the British TV series "Yes Minister," once remarked that, he had joined the Cambridge Union (debating society) in his first year at the University of Cambridge because he thought that he might like to enter politics. What he observed was that:


    All of the main debaters there, aged twenty, were the most pompous, self-satisfied, self-important bunch of clowns that I've ever clapped eyes on. They were all behaving as if they were on the government front bench, and twenty years later they all were: Michael Howard; John Selwyn Gummer; Kenneth Clarke. I thought at that point that the only way that I could ever contribute to politics is making fun of the politicians.
     
    That is why Britain is ruled by a bunch of clueless, irresponsible and treasonous morons.

    ‘…Over the last generation, the talent in Britain has mainly gone into the entertainments industry or the FIRE economy…’

    Yup…

    Phil Butler has a good piece up today about the ‘brains’ behind the US ‘stink tank’ industry…

    ‘…The most interesting and sickly funny of think tanks in our nation’s capital, the Jewish Institute for National Security of America does a whole lot of talking and not much thinking about how Israel lobbying is looking to intelligent folks. Let me quote from the lead story at their website:

    “Consistent with the Trump Administration’s stated intention of pushing back against Iran’s increasingly malign behavior throughout the Middle East, American policymakers urgently need to rebuild credibility and positions of strength by contesting Iran’s rising influence across the region.

    Most urgently, the United States must impose real obstacles to Tehran’s pursuit of total victory by the Assad regime in Syria.”..’

    I have to admit that I have always been resistant to the tail wagging the dog theory that is rampant in some circles…including here on this thread…but certainly Butler states the case plainly…

    ‘…For those of you wondering if the tail is wagging the dog. If anybody out there needs to know who wanted Assad gone.

    Should a European woman who’s been raped by one of those majority male refugees question her plight…’

    No need to go into the ‘refugee’ paradise setting up shop everywhere in Europe…

    Here’s an idea…why not just bus the bearded fanatics and their ninja-clad wives straight from Ghouta to Germany…?

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  133. FB says:
    @AnonFromTN
    Some people think that Putin is just upholding the original bargain that brought him to power. I don’t know.
    I agree that all oligarchs are thieves and their riches are stolen property that should be returned. However, I don’t think that planned economy is an answer. Maybe I am biased, but I remember trying to do science under planned economy. We even had money (I worked at the Institute of Bioorganic Chemistry, run by Ovchinnikov, who was a candidate member of the Central Committee of the Communist party), but we had to order reagents a year ahead. This was totally ridiculous: if I knew what I am going to need in a year, I’d be writing papers, not doing experiments.
    There are parts of economy that need long-term planning, and those should be run by the state. However, production of consumer goods should be private, market-driven, not planned. The task of the state is to enforce the laws that allow the economy to develop and to control the parts that do not bring quick profits and require long-term view, like infrastructure, education, health care, fundamental science, etc. Socks and nails are best produced by private non-planned enterprise, whereas military hardware is best produced by the state, to exclude greedy parasites, like Pentagon contractors.

    ‘…There are parts of economy that need long-term planning, and those should be run by the state. However, production of consumer goods should be private, market-driven, not planned.

    The task of the state is to enforce the laws that allow the economy to develop and to control the parts that do not bring quick profits and require long-term view, like infrastructure, education, health care, fundamental science, etc.

    Socks and nails are best produced by private non-planned enterprise, whereas military hardware is best produced by the state, to exclude greedy parasites, like Pentagon contractors…’

    I agree with this completely…

    But the problem with our ponzi economy is that we have gone way beyond that…everything is financialized…which means a FIRE sector that is like a flat tax of about a third of our economy…

    I think it was you that mentioned that the only thing holding this house of cards up is the petrodollar…I have mentioned before world oil trade is 14 trillion USD…

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    If those enterprises are owned by all those working there I have no issue. But if there is one owner who owns means of production and pays salaries I do.. are there going to be mortgages or dwelling are distributed like they used to in Soviet times? Education? Healthcare? Retirement? I believe all that soviet people used to have must be fully restored. In case of non state run enterprises not only those producing clothes but even restaraunts and other services can be mutually owned by those who work there. Cooperative ownership, artel. But means of production on any case should be state owned. The whole place can be rented and enterprise pays rental fee and taxes distributing later profits in fair manner among all participants.
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  134. FB says:
    @Rusty Balaclava
    So far, to get NATO on red alert and start WW3, we have two dead guinea pigs and one dead cat. Are the Russians really that bad at what we think they do?

    ‘…So far, to get NATO on red alert and start WW3, we have two dead guinea pigs and one dead cat…’

    Well…let’s not understate this either…

    Losing a beloved family pet is not something that was necessary…I applaud PETA for placing the blame on the criminal May govt…

    Also Russia’s UN envoy is calling for an explanation of the animals’ deaths…

    It turns out that the Skripal family vet called authorities to tell them about the household pets as soon as he heard the news about the Skripals…yet the cat was supposedly only found days later…so malnourished that she had to be put down…and cremated of course…

    And here’s the kicker…the cat was put down at Porton Down…and cremnated there…

    Move along…nothing to see here…

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  135. @FB

    '...There are parts of economy that need long-term planning, and those should be run by the state. However, production of consumer goods should be private, market-driven, not planned.

    The task of the state is to enforce the laws that allow the economy to develop and to control the parts that do not bring quick profits and require long-term view, like infrastructure, education, health care, fundamental science, etc.

    Socks and nails are best produced by private non-planned enterprise, whereas military hardware is best produced by the state, to exclude greedy parasites, like Pentagon contractors...'
     
    I agree with this completely...

    But the problem with our ponzi economy is that we have gone way beyond that...everything is financialized...which means a FIRE sector that is like a flat tax of about a third of our economy...

    I think it was you that mentioned that the only thing holding this house of cards up is the petrodollar...I have mentioned before world oil trade is 14 trillion USD...

    If those enterprises are owned by all those working there I have no issue. But if there is one owner who owns means of production and pays salaries I do.. are there going to be mortgages or dwelling are distributed like they used to in Soviet times? Education? Healthcare? Retirement? I believe all that soviet people used to have must be fully restored. In case of non state run enterprises not only those producing clothes but even restaraunts and other services can be mutually owned by those who work there. Cooperative ownership, artel. But means of production on any case should be state owned. The whole place can be rented and enterprise pays rental fee and taxes distributing later profits in fair manner among all participants.

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    That sounds nice, but a bit Utopian. Key question becomes, who owns (or at least runs) the state? Look at the US example: the state, including the presidency and almost all Senators and Congressmen, are wholly owned (bought and paid for) by the elites whose interests have nothing to do with the interests of the country and its populace. What mechanisms can ensure that something like that does not happen, or a maniac like Hitler, or a self-aggrandizing nonentity like Mussolini, or a traitor like Gorbachev, does not get to the top? Without these mechanisms giving it all to the state is no better than giving it all to oligarchs, or Rothschilds, or some other scum like that.
    , @Twodees Partain
    The problem with "state" ownership of anything is that the state is, in essence, a government. Governments are corrupt by nature. The state is the enemy of mankind.
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  136. @Sergey Krieger
    If those enterprises are owned by all those working there I have no issue. But if there is one owner who owns means of production and pays salaries I do.. are there going to be mortgages or dwelling are distributed like they used to in Soviet times? Education? Healthcare? Retirement? I believe all that soviet people used to have must be fully restored. In case of non state run enterprises not only those producing clothes but even restaraunts and other services can be mutually owned by those who work there. Cooperative ownership, artel. But means of production on any case should be state owned. The whole place can be rented and enterprise pays rental fee and taxes distributing later profits in fair manner among all participants.

    That sounds nice, but a bit Utopian. Key question becomes, who owns (or at least runs) the state? Look at the US example: the state, including the presidency and almost all Senators and Congressmen, are wholly owned (bought and paid for) by the elites whose interests have nothing to do with the interests of the country and its populace. What mechanisms can ensure that something like that does not happen, or a maniac like Hitler, or a self-aggrandizing nonentity like Mussolini, or a traitor like Gorbachev, does not get to the top? Without these mechanisms giving it all to the state is no better than giving it all to oligarchs, or Rothschilds, or some other scum like that.

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    Without ideological background it is indeed utopian. Ideology is like software to run hardware the state. For example. I have heard that 70% f Russia strategic industrial enterprises has been nationalized. It is good but still for population beyond state security and works for those who employed there benefits are not same as when it was owned by state ran under socialist ideology. Dwellings ate to be bought, education is increasingly for money and so is healthcare and people do not have same rights as before. Miller's and Sechins meanwhile enjoy multimillion salaries.
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  137. FB says:

    ‘…are there going to be mortgages or dwelling are distributed like they used to in Soviet times?..’

    I agree with you on this…the right to housing is a basic human right…

    Housing should not be a ponzi scheme for bankers…

    As for the education and healthcare I think that was covered under the public part to begin with…along with big science…military etc…

    Fact is that with today’s production technology we can produce more than enough for everyone on earth…literally…

    The only reason this does not happen is greed…we are living in a system of artificial scarcity…

    The labor market is likewise manipulated in order to keep wages down so that more cream goes to the parasite class…

    Why do we have immigration from poor countries…?

    It is to create an artificial labor surplus so the greedy class can cash in…

    At the same time…the cost of housing for example is much higher than it needs to be because the bankers need to make you a debt slave for 30…40…or even 50 years…and get back five times as much as they loaned you…

    It’s all very simple…but the fact is that unless we get the pitchforks out and physically eliminate the greedy buggers nothing will change…

    We are hearing more about a ‘universal income’…this is absolutely possible with today’s production technology…we can have so much abundance that the universal income would grease the wheels by creating consumer demand for all that production…

    But going against all this reality is the ideology that underpins the capitalist propaganda…ie ‘hard work…’

    The fact of life is that not all people are going to work hard…and not all people are going to be productive…some will and some will not…

    That’s just a fact of life…

    So you have two choices…either eliminate the unproductive humans in some efficient way..or pay them a universal income…so they contribute to the consumer economy…

    Of course this kind of thinking will be derided as ‘socialist’…even by those who would benefit from it the most…ie the ordinary working people…who unexplicably drink the koolaid that is sending them to slaughter…

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    Frankly, we all live in utopia right now. Any system of believes that believes in perpetual growth in closed system is uthopia. The levels of debt in the world represent sold out future to mantain fasade of prosperity now. Utopia. The only way for civilization and humanity to survive as civilizations is to break out of this closed system. Current utopia cannot do it. Everybody is at everybody throat fighting for limited resources and worrying about trivialities. Elites are about hedonism and power. Soviet system was super utopia capable of just that taking humanity beyond the earth boundaries creating sustainable civilization. Priorities were space not sausage.
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  138. @AnonFromTN
    That sounds nice, but a bit Utopian. Key question becomes, who owns (or at least runs) the state? Look at the US example: the state, including the presidency and almost all Senators and Congressmen, are wholly owned (bought and paid for) by the elites whose interests have nothing to do with the interests of the country and its populace. What mechanisms can ensure that something like that does not happen, or a maniac like Hitler, or a self-aggrandizing nonentity like Mussolini, or a traitor like Gorbachev, does not get to the top? Without these mechanisms giving it all to the state is no better than giving it all to oligarchs, or Rothschilds, or some other scum like that.

    Without ideological background it is indeed utopian. Ideology is like software to run hardware the state. For example. I have heard that 70% f Russia strategic industrial enterprises has been nationalized. It is good but still for population beyond state security and works for those who employed there benefits are not same as when it was owned by state ran under socialist ideology. Dwellings ate to be bought, education is increasingly for money and so is healthcare and people do not have same rights as before. Miller’s and Sechins meanwhile enjoy multimillion salaries.

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    Just think: did ideological background prevent rising to the top of such personages as moron Chernenko, traitors Gorbi and Yakovlev, as well as Yeltsin, who was a drunk in addition to everything else? Ideology is not a mechanism, ideology is like a religion, a lie promoted by the elites to keep the people docile. I am talking about real mechanisms, not fairy tales.
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  139. F. H. says:

    Washington wrecks cyber security talks

    by Arkady Savitsky, military analyst in St Peterburg, Russia

    Excerpt:

    “Several European NATO members have shown their interest in joining the cybersecurity negotiations. But the US stymied the process, at least in a Russia-NATO format. It’s a pity, because the issue could have become part of a broader Russia-NATO and OSCE agenda.
    Cyber Security is an area in which agreements can be reached. ”

    https://www.zeit-fragen.ch/en/ausgaben/2018/nr-7-27-maerz-2018/washington-hat-die-verhandlungen-ueber-cyber-sicherheit-scheitern-lassen.html

    [MORE]

    ”In a word, the UK, the EU and the US are ganging-up on Russia.”

    They are also ganging-up on Germany (Russia’s important economic ally before the sanctions)

    ”More than anyone in Europe, Germany is feeling the bite of the anti-Russian sanctions and its support for them is not likely to be unlimited.”

    2017-12-14

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/12/14/

    “Migrants” crisis:

    Dangerous tensions in Germany are increasing

    by Prof Dr Eberhard Hamer*

    Excerpt (emphasis added):

    ”The international agencies fighting against crime complain that “Germany has become the European centre and country of rest for worldwide criminal organisations”, for the mafia, ‘Ndrangheta, triads, Romanian, Polish, Ukrainian and Albanian gangs of thieves; it has become the distribution centre for international narcotics trafficking, and petty crime has been increasing by leaps and bounds on our streets. Despite the increase in police forces, the crime rate is rising.”

    “More and more criminals are moving in, because they are less checked in Germany than in other countries, and Germany also offers full benefits to them. Also, there are the best crime chances in a rich country. But instead of our policy taking the growing fear of the population about crime seriously, it allows, …”

    the US to call back its international terrorist forces, which have been defeated in Syria but which they still want to use in Iran, from Mosul, Rakka and other places and park them in Germany,

    [...]

    Growing dissatisfaction

    The German population’s growing dissatisfaction with the economic yield of their work performance (the fact that it is practically no longer possible to acquire a dwelling by means of one’s own work effort) relates to the maximum burden on those who mainly generate German performance, and this in turn is due to the political distribution of our prosperity in the world. The alleged “solidarity” with the refugees – this also is eyewash, because 94% of the immigrants are not refugees at all – is only one part of this politically wanted exploitation of our people.

    The decisions of the new grand coalition, however, show that the decisive flaws such as the German payments for Europe (financial union), the overloading of our social systems (mass immigration) and the excessive tax burden on our top-performance providers will not change with its policy of “keep it up”. Politics itself is too cowardly to name the causes of the problems, and it fears that it would be punished by its electoral majorities, should it even only name as such the devaluation, increase or exploitation of our social system, or the expansion of EU-Europe at the German expense.

    https://www.zeit-fragen.ch/en/numbers/2018/no-6-24-march-2018/dangerous-tensions-in-germany-are-increasing.html

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  140. @Sergey Krieger
    If those enterprises are owned by all those working there I have no issue. But if there is one owner who owns means of production and pays salaries I do.. are there going to be mortgages or dwelling are distributed like they used to in Soviet times? Education? Healthcare? Retirement? I believe all that soviet people used to have must be fully restored. In case of non state run enterprises not only those producing clothes but even restaraunts and other services can be mutually owned by those who work there. Cooperative ownership, artel. But means of production on any case should be state owned. The whole place can be rented and enterprise pays rental fee and taxes distributing later profits in fair manner among all participants.

    The problem with “state” ownership of anything is that the state is, in essence, a government. Governments are corrupt by nature. The state is the enemy of mankind.

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  141. @FB

    '...are there going to be mortgages or dwelling are distributed like they used to in Soviet times?..'
     
    I agree with you on this...the right to housing is a basic human right...

    Housing should not be a ponzi scheme for bankers...

    As for the education and healthcare I think that was covered under the public part to begin with...along with big science...military etc...

    Fact is that with today's production technology we can produce more than enough for everyone on earth...literally...

    The only reason this does not happen is greed...we are living in a system of artificial scarcity...

    The labor market is likewise manipulated in order to keep wages down so that more cream goes to the parasite class...

    Why do we have immigration from poor countries...?

    It is to create an artificial labor surplus so the greedy class can cash in...

    At the same time...the cost of housing for example is much higher than it needs to be because the bankers need to make you a debt slave for 30...40...or even 50 years...and get back five times as much as they loaned you...

    It's all very simple...but the fact is that unless we get the pitchforks out and physically eliminate the greedy buggers nothing will change...

    We are hearing more about a 'universal income'...this is absolutely possible with today's production technology...we can have so much abundance that the universal income would grease the wheels by creating consumer demand for all that production...

    But going against all this reality is the ideology that underpins the capitalist propaganda...ie 'hard work...'

    The fact of life is that not all people are going to work hard...and not all people are going to be productive...some will and some will not...

    That's just a fact of life...

    So you have two choices...either eliminate the unproductive humans in some efficient way..or pay them a universal income...so they contribute to the consumer economy...

    Of course this kind of thinking will be derided as 'socialist'...even by those who would benefit from it the most...ie the ordinary working people...who unexplicably drink the koolaid that is sending them to slaughter...

    Frankly, we all live in utopia right now. Any system of believes that believes in perpetual growth in closed system is uthopia. The levels of debt in the world represent sold out future to mantain fasade of prosperity now. Utopia. The only way for civilization and humanity to survive as civilizations is to break out of this closed system. Current utopia cannot do it. Everybody is at everybody throat fighting for limited resources and worrying about trivialities. Elites are about hedonism and power. Soviet system was super utopia capable of just that taking humanity beyond the earth boundaries creating sustainable civilization. Priorities were space not sausage.

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    '...Any system of believes that believes in perpetual growth in closed system is uthopia...'
     
    I agree...I have commented many times about the mathematical problem of perpetual growth which is exponential growth and is a recipe for doom...

    But things do not need to be this way...the first step is to take back our own political power and human dignity...

    '...Everybody is at everybody throat fighting for limited resources and worrying about trivialities...'
     
    The mantra about finite resources is part of the capitalist propaganda...

    There are enough resources for a sustainable life for humanity...and more important for our natural habitat...which is being destroyed by the same parasites...

    The problem is conspicuous consumption...

    There was recently a discussion on some thread or other here about the origin of Indo-European languages etc...

    Even 5000 years ago some of our predecessors started with conspicuous consumption as archaeologists have discovered by noting increasingly extravagant burial items...

    We need to tackle serious problems in a serious and methodical way...right now there is a lot of useless noise being generated from many quarters about what is wrong and what is to be done...

    I agree with you the Soviet system had some amazing qualities which resulted in some amazing human progress...

    But that baby seems to have been thrown out with the bathwater...the capitalist propaganda seems to have won...socialism is a dirty word...even to those who would benefit most from a humanistic and socially responsible system...
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  142. @Sergey Krieger
    Without ideological background it is indeed utopian. Ideology is like software to run hardware the state. For example. I have heard that 70% f Russia strategic industrial enterprises has been nationalized. It is good but still for population beyond state security and works for those who employed there benefits are not same as when it was owned by state ran under socialist ideology. Dwellings ate to be bought, education is increasingly for money and so is healthcare and people do not have same rights as before. Miller's and Sechins meanwhile enjoy multimillion salaries.

    Just think: did ideological background prevent rising to the top of such personages as moron Chernenko, traitors Gorbi and Yakovlev, as well as Yeltsin, who was a drunk in addition to everything else? Ideology is not a mechanism, ideology is like a religion, a lie promoted by the elites to keep the people docile. I am talking about real mechanisms, not fairy tales.

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    I have been thinking about this issue too. In this regard Stalin was right that cadres decide everything including development and promotion and if necessary removal of those who occupy leading positions. There definitely must be systematic approach to everything. But ideology exists always. Whether you like it or not. It is human nature that requires it. If it is not for people ideology it will be my pocket only ideology. There is ideology in the west.
    In case of what happened in the Soviet union it is very specific case. The history was extremely tragic for Russia in 20th century.
    , @Sergey Krieger
    Just think. If you drive a car and the car broke down, are you going to stop driving cars? Human nature is fickle. But there were so many good things , I believe it more than worth to learn lessons and start moving toward that goal but not the way exactly as it used to be. taking the best eliminating what was wrong. Planning number of socks is one thing. Thoroughly picking for their abilities, preparing and rising people for various leading position base don merit and with systematic approach to avoid previous voluntarism outbursts and degenerates getting to power is another. Old mistakes do not have to be repeated.
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  143. FB says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    Frankly, we all live in utopia right now. Any system of believes that believes in perpetual growth in closed system is uthopia. The levels of debt in the world represent sold out future to mantain fasade of prosperity now. Utopia. The only way for civilization and humanity to survive as civilizations is to break out of this closed system. Current utopia cannot do it. Everybody is at everybody throat fighting for limited resources and worrying about trivialities. Elites are about hedonism and power. Soviet system was super utopia capable of just that taking humanity beyond the earth boundaries creating sustainable civilization. Priorities were space not sausage.

    ‘…Any system of believes that believes in perpetual growth in closed system is uthopia…’

    I agree…I have commented many times about the mathematical problem of perpetual growth which is exponential growth and is a recipe for doom…

    But things do not need to be this way…the first step is to take back our own political power and human dignity…

    ‘…Everybody is at everybody throat fighting for limited resources and worrying about trivialities…’

    The mantra about finite resources is part of the capitalist propaganda…

    There are enough resources for a sustainable life for humanity…and more important for our natural habitat…which is being destroyed by the same parasites…

    The problem is conspicuous consumption…

    There was recently a discussion on some thread or other here about the origin of Indo-European languages etc…

    Even 5000 years ago some of our predecessors started with conspicuous consumption as archaeologists have discovered by noting increasingly extravagant burial items…

    We need to tackle serious problems in a serious and methodical way…right now there is a lot of useless noise being generated from many quarters about what is wrong and what is to be done…

    I agree with you the Soviet system had some amazing qualities which resulted in some amazing human progress…

    But that baby seems to have been thrown out with the bathwater…the capitalist propaganda seems to have won…socialism is a dirty word…even to those who would benefit most from a humanistic and socially responsible system…

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    "I agree with you the Soviet system had some amazing qualities which resulted in some amazing human progress…

    But that baby seems to have been thrown out with the bathwater…the capitalist propaganda seems to have won…socialism is a dirty word…even to those who would benefit most from a humanistic and socially responsible system…"

    In Russia socialism seems not to be a dirty word. I actually believe it is the only and the best way for Russia to go. Regarding the rest. capitalism in the west was capable to maintain status quo because there has been vast periphery to be plundered and US$ has been another tool to transfer wealth form the rest. It cannot continue. Once people feels hunger and pain in real terms not imaginary things start changing dramatically. Social changes always require suffering. Nobody would exert himself on full stomach.

    Consumption is a big issue but human numbers too. Consumption is the way capitalists condition population killing two birds with one stone. Assuring their goods are being bought and messing humans mind in terms of what important for humanity thus both making money and preventing people from realization that they are being robbed.

    I think socialism death announcement is premature thing because capitalism continuously creating conditions for own demise and especially now it becomes obvious capitalism cannot resolve no pressing issue of our or future times, makes lives of more an more people miserable and selling our future, hence rising debts. Add to this habitat destruction and we are facing extinction including our own.
    I also believe that long term humanity survival depends upon exploitation and exploration of Solar system resources and development of non fossil fuels energy sources. I am not talking wind and other renewable but thermonuclear power. Soviet system or something close mobilizing human potential for big goals could have achieved this.

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  144. @Anonymous
    Poland has a stronger claim to Königsberg than Germany. Or do you want to go back even farther and give it back to the Lithuania? That piece of clay has been conquered and held by a dozen different nations in the past 500 years including the Russian empire. Since Germany's claim to that territory is also based on military conquest it seems odd to complain when another nation does the same thing. Its even stranger to complain about losing territory after WWII. Think of it as an arsehole tax for what Germany did on its eastern front.

    Quote:
    Since Germany’s claim to that territory is also based on military conquest it seems odd to complain when another nation does the same thing. Its even stranger to complain about losing territory after WWII.

    You appear to have absolutely no regard for the adherence to international laws and conventions. Even if that territory were to become a new and independent sovereign entity called East Prussia, with German, Lithuanian, and Polish being recognized as official languages, the fact — and main point — remains that Russia has no valid claim to that land and is still occupying it illegally.

    Russian military forces need only advance 22 miles south through Poland near Lithuania while forces in Belarus advance 22 miles north to meet them, and the three Baltic states would be geographically cut off from the rest of the European Union. Such a pair of military ground operations can be conducted rather quickly. This fact is the basic premise for concentrated NATO presence there.

    If Russians were truly serious about wanting to end the Cold War in Europe they would simply leave their Stalinist enclave, as they are obliged to to by law. By remaining there they threaten Europe with their missiles and preserve the option of reconquering the Baltic countries, which, unlike the Ukraine, are considered Nordic, not Slavic, are not Christian Orthodox, and do not use a Cyrillic alphabet.

    The unsettled Königsberg / Kaliningrad issue is completely different from the dormant Karelian question which Finland (not a member of NATO) settled at the Moscow peace treaty in 1940. It is rather strange that commentators in this thread seem to be content to let Russia off the hook on this issue, which remains the main source of ongoing diplomatic tensions and potential military conflict in Europe.

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    Hey knucklehead...

    If you have a beef with Kaliningrad here is a suggestion...take it back by force...

    Good luck with that...LOL...
    , @Avery
    {You appear to have absolutely no regard for the adherence to international laws and conventions.}

    Who does? US? UK? NATO?

    As just one example, the two main pillars of NATO, those who scream the loudest about the so-called 'international laws and conventions' invaded - illegally* - the sovereign country of Iraq, wrecked it, and caused the deaths of several hundred thousand innocent Iraqi civilians. Iraq no longer exists as a viable state. US and UK are also responsible for the mass murders committed by ISIS in Iraq, since US&UK destroyed a viable, functioning state and created the conditions for ISIS to exist. Since the invasion was illegal, both US and UK committed a war crime: how many US or UK officials responsible for that war crime have been punished to date?

    What 'international laws and conventions'?

    US today, amongst several other NATO member countries, in in Syria _illegally_, maintaining military presence and illegally attempting to overthrow its legal government.

    What 'international laws and conventions'?

    NATO member Turkey is sill occupying 40% of sovereign state of Cyprus 40 years after its illegal invasion: has US or NATO or anybody else lecturing the rest of the world about 'international laws and conventions' done anything about it?


    {... that Russia has no valid claim to that land and is still occupying it illegally.}

    Sure it does:
    -Nazi Germany _invaded_ USSR in 1941.
    - After 4 years of bloody war, after losing ~10 million troops, after losing ~15 million of its civilians, USSR defeated the genocidal, criminal regime of Nazi Germany which was planning to exterminate all Slavs of USSR and steal their lands . Nazi Germany signed an unconditional surrender with the Allies, including USSR. As part of its surrender, Nazi Germany ceded some territory it had occupied previously. Russian Federation is the legal successor state of USSR. The land is question is therefore legally part of RF.


    { By remaining there they threaten Europe }

    It's Europe which has repeatedly threatened and invaded Russia.
    Napoleon, Hitler, and now NATO surrounding Russia with bases and threatening its security and existence.

    Now, what else have you got?


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  145. @AnonFromTN
    Just think: did ideological background prevent rising to the top of such personages as moron Chernenko, traitors Gorbi and Yakovlev, as well as Yeltsin, who was a drunk in addition to everything else? Ideology is not a mechanism, ideology is like a religion, a lie promoted by the elites to keep the people docile. I am talking about real mechanisms, not fairy tales.

    I have been thinking about this issue too. In this regard Stalin was right that cadres decide everything including development and promotion and if necessary removal of those who occupy leading positions. There definitely must be systematic approach to everything. But ideology exists always. Whether you like it or not. It is human nature that requires it. If it is not for people ideology it will be my pocket only ideology. There is ideology in the west.
    In case of what happened in the Soviet union it is very specific case. The history was extremely tragic for Russia in 20th century.

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  146. @FB

    '...Any system of believes that believes in perpetual growth in closed system is uthopia...'
     
    I agree...I have commented many times about the mathematical problem of perpetual growth which is exponential growth and is a recipe for doom...

    But things do not need to be this way...the first step is to take back our own political power and human dignity...

    '...Everybody is at everybody throat fighting for limited resources and worrying about trivialities...'
     
    The mantra about finite resources is part of the capitalist propaganda...

    There are enough resources for a sustainable life for humanity...and more important for our natural habitat...which is being destroyed by the same parasites...

    The problem is conspicuous consumption...

    There was recently a discussion on some thread or other here about the origin of Indo-European languages etc...

    Even 5000 years ago some of our predecessors started with conspicuous consumption as archaeologists have discovered by noting increasingly extravagant burial items...

    We need to tackle serious problems in a serious and methodical way...right now there is a lot of useless noise being generated from many quarters about what is wrong and what is to be done...

    I agree with you the Soviet system had some amazing qualities which resulted in some amazing human progress...

    But that baby seems to have been thrown out with the bathwater...the capitalist propaganda seems to have won...socialism is a dirty word...even to those who would benefit most from a humanistic and socially responsible system...

    “I agree with you the Soviet system had some amazing qualities which resulted in some amazing human progress…

    But that baby seems to have been thrown out with the bathwater…the capitalist propaganda seems to have won…socialism is a dirty word…even to those who would benefit most from a humanistic and socially responsible system…”

    In Russia socialism seems not to be a dirty word. I actually believe it is the only and the best way for Russia to go. Regarding the rest. capitalism in the west was capable to maintain status quo because there has been vast periphery to be plundered and US$ has been another tool to transfer wealth form the rest. It cannot continue. Once people feels hunger and pain in real terms not imaginary things start changing dramatically. Social changes always require suffering. Nobody would exert himself on full stomach.

    Consumption is a big issue but human numbers too. Consumption is the way capitalists condition population killing two birds with one stone. Assuring their goods are being bought and messing humans mind in terms of what important for humanity thus both making money and preventing people from realization that they are being robbed.

    I think socialism death announcement is premature thing because capitalism continuously creating conditions for own demise and especially now it becomes obvious capitalism cannot resolve no pressing issue of our or future times, makes lives of more an more people miserable and selling our future, hence rising debts. Add to this habitat destruction and we are facing extinction including our own.
    I also believe that long term humanity survival depends upon exploitation and exploration of Solar system resources and development of non fossil fuels energy sources. I am not talking wind and other renewable but thermonuclear power. Soviet system or something close mobilizing human potential for big goals could have achieved this.

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    '...capitalism in the west was capable to maintain status quo because there has been vast periphery to be plundered and US$ has been another tool to transfer wealth form the rest...'
     
    Absolutely true...

    The mechanism can be explained quite nicely with the mathematics of exponential growth...

    An economy that grows year over year in perpetuity is an example of exponential growth...yet this is the entire foundation of our system...it must grow in perpetuity...

    As soon as there are just six months of no growth or contraction...it is officially a 'recession'...

    So how do you keep this unsustainable ponzi scheme going...?

    Like you said...it has been done through plundering of the 'periphery'...ie the resources of Africa and other poor nations...as well as even the developed and developing countries by means of the US dollar reserve currency status which means there is always an artifiical demand for US dollars because it is the only way to trade...

    But as the periphery is offering less and less opportunity for US exploitation...[the BRICS countries combined GDP now surpasses that of the G7]...the plundering must come increasingly from the home base...

    This is exactly why the US middle class is dying...there has been no increase in real income and wealth for the middle class in 40 years...in fact it has decreased...

    This robbing of the home base is necessary in order to keep the ponzi scheme afloat...and will likely continue until people do actually feel real hunger...you are right about that...real hunger is the only thing that will get couch potatoes off the couch and into the streets...

    As for Russia...I agree with you completely...

    My one big disappointment with Putin is that he has never reformed the Russian consitution which was written by Goldman Sachs in the Yeltsin era...

    The Russian central bank is completely out of the reach of either the Russian government or judiciary...that is enshrined in the constitution...

    The Russian central bank is part and parcel of the global parasite cabal...led by the Fed...and there is nothing Putin can do about this without revamping the constitution and kicking out the parasites...

    I don't know why this has not happened yet...the progress Russia has made in the last two decades is remarkable...but this has been done with one hand tied behind its back...

    Imagine what it could do as a real sovereign country...with control over its own money...this is not the case now...

    I have hopes that Putin will do this in this his last term in office...if he does not then I will start to believe those who consider him a neoliberal at bottom...or perhaps some kind of deal going back 20 years...which I consider unlikely...

    We note here that it took Stalin 16 years to gain control of the Soviet central bank and purge the parasites both foreign and domestic...

    China doesn't have this restraint...they are fully in charge of their money...which has made all the difference...

    PCR has long yelled at Putin to take action and put Russia on a course to real prosperity...but Putin has just kept putting in neoliberals in charge of the nation's finances...this is outrageous...

    Let's see what happens in the coming six years...maybe finally Putin will clean house...
    , @Authenticjazzman
    " Social changes always require suffering"

    Absurd nonsense. Or are you trying to make a natural law out of your brainless romantization of ensuing suffering caused by the implementation of : Socialism/Communism.
    In Cuba they have been enduring the suffering and birth pains of Socialism for fifty-nine years with no change in sight. With no vision of an end to the "necessary" suffering you are propagating.

    "Nobody would exert themselves on full stomach"

    And they will exert themselves even less on a empty stomach, as was evident in the east block "Worker's Paradises", where three people were employed to do one man's job, and then they did not accomplish the goal.

    Look friend you cannot BS myself as I have spent time in several East-block countries long before the fall of the Berlin wall, and I vividely remember the somber, morgue-like atmosphere of the cities, and the dead eyes of the hopeless, disheartened citizenry, the folks who according to you, were simply experiencing the "required" suffering on the way to a manifested "Workers and farmers paradise"

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.
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  147. @AnonFromTN
    Just think: did ideological background prevent rising to the top of such personages as moron Chernenko, traitors Gorbi and Yakovlev, as well as Yeltsin, who was a drunk in addition to everything else? Ideology is not a mechanism, ideology is like a religion, a lie promoted by the elites to keep the people docile. I am talking about real mechanisms, not fairy tales.

    Just think. If you drive a car and the car broke down, are you going to stop driving cars? Human nature is fickle. But there were so many good things , I believe it more than worth to learn lessons and start moving toward that goal but not the way exactly as it used to be. taking the best eliminating what was wrong. Planning number of socks is one thing. Thoroughly picking for their abilities, preparing and rising people for various leading position base don merit and with systematic approach to avoid previous voluntarism outbursts and degenerates getting to power is another. Old mistakes do not have to be repeated.

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  148. “But things do not need to be this way…the first step is to take back our own political power and human dignity…”
    This can be only done in organized way. Lenin genius was in recognizing need in organization to lead people towards that goal. Hence his:” Give me revolutionary organization and I shall turn Russia around”. Paraphrasing Archimedes phrase about levers.

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  149. FB says:
    @Been_there_done_that
    Quote:
    Since Germany’s claim to that territory is also based on military conquest it seems odd to complain when another nation does the same thing. Its even stranger to complain about losing territory after WWII.

    You appear to have absolutely no regard for the adherence to international laws and conventions. Even if that territory were to become a new and independent sovereign entity called East Prussia, with German, Lithuanian, and Polish being recognized as official languages, the fact -- and main point -- remains that Russia has no valid claim to that land and is still occupying it illegally.

    Russian military forces need only advance 22 miles south through Poland near Lithuania while forces in Belarus advance 22 miles north to meet them, and the three Baltic states would be geographically cut off from the rest of the European Union. Such a pair of military ground operations can be conducted rather quickly. This fact is the basic premise for concentrated NATO presence there.

    If Russians were truly serious about wanting to end the Cold War in Europe they would simply leave their Stalinist enclave, as they are obliged to to by law. By remaining there they threaten Europe with their missiles and preserve the option of reconquering the Baltic countries, which, unlike the Ukraine, are considered Nordic, not Slavic, are not Christian Orthodox, and do not use a Cyrillic alphabet.

    The unsettled Königsberg / Kaliningrad issue is completely different from the dormant Karelian question which Finland (not a member of NATO) settled at the Moscow peace treaty in 1940. It is rather strange that commentators in this thread seem to be content to let Russia off the hook on this issue, which remains the main source of ongoing diplomatic tensions and potential military conflict in Europe.

    Hey knucklehead…

    If you have a beef with Kaliningrad here is a suggestion…take it back by force…

    Good luck with that…LOL…

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  150. Avery says:
    @Been_there_done_that
    Quote:
    Since Germany’s claim to that territory is also based on military conquest it seems odd to complain when another nation does the same thing. Its even stranger to complain about losing territory after WWII.

    You appear to have absolutely no regard for the adherence to international laws and conventions. Even if that territory were to become a new and independent sovereign entity called East Prussia, with German, Lithuanian, and Polish being recognized as official languages, the fact -- and main point -- remains that Russia has no valid claim to that land and is still occupying it illegally.

    Russian military forces need only advance 22 miles south through Poland near Lithuania while forces in Belarus advance 22 miles north to meet them, and the three Baltic states would be geographically cut off from the rest of the European Union. Such a pair of military ground operations can be conducted rather quickly. This fact is the basic premise for concentrated NATO presence there.

    If Russians were truly serious about wanting to end the Cold War in Europe they would simply leave their Stalinist enclave, as they are obliged to to by law. By remaining there they threaten Europe with their missiles and preserve the option of reconquering the Baltic countries, which, unlike the Ukraine, are considered Nordic, not Slavic, are not Christian Orthodox, and do not use a Cyrillic alphabet.

    The unsettled Königsberg / Kaliningrad issue is completely different from the dormant Karelian question which Finland (not a member of NATO) settled at the Moscow peace treaty in 1940. It is rather strange that commentators in this thread seem to be content to let Russia off the hook on this issue, which remains the main source of ongoing diplomatic tensions and potential military conflict in Europe.

    {You appear to have absolutely no regard for the adherence to international laws and conventions.}

    Who does? US? UK? NATO?

    As just one example, the two main pillars of NATO, those who scream the loudest about the so-called ‘international laws and conventions’ invaded – illegally* – the sovereign country of Iraq, wrecked it, and caused the deaths of several hundred thousand innocent Iraqi civilians. Iraq no longer exists as a viable state. US and UK are also responsible for the mass murders committed by ISIS in Iraq, since US&UK destroyed a viable, functioning state and created the conditions for ISIS to exist. Since the invasion was illegal, both US and UK committed a war crime: how many US or UK officials responsible for that war crime have been punished to date?

    What ‘international laws and conventions’?

    US today, amongst several other NATO member countries, in in Syria _illegally_, maintaining military presence and illegally attempting to overthrow its legal government.

    What ‘international laws and conventions’?

    NATO member Turkey is sill occupying 40% of sovereign state of Cyprus 40 years after its illegal invasion: has US or NATO or anybody else lecturing the rest of the world about ‘international laws and conventions’ done anything about it?

    {… that Russia has no valid claim to that land and is still occupying it illegally.}

    Sure it does:
    -Nazi Germany _invaded_ USSR in 1941.
    - After 4 years of bloody war, after losing ~10 million troops, after losing ~15 million of its civilians, USSR defeated the genocidal, criminal regime of Nazi Germany which was planning to exterminate all Slavs of USSR and steal their lands . Nazi Germany signed an unconditional surrender with the Allies, including USSR. As part of its surrender, Nazi Germany ceded some territory it had occupied previously. Russian Federation is the legal successor state of USSR. The land is question is therefore legally part of RF.

    { By remaining there they threaten Europe }

    It’s Europe which has repeatedly threatened and invaded Russia.
    Napoleon, Hitler, and now NATO surrounding Russia with bases and threatening its security and existence.

    Now, what else have you got?

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    The thrust of your argument, which I find to be rather weak, seems to be that if the USA and UK have violated international law then it is perfectly all right for Russia to do so too. This comes across as advocacy for international gangster-ism.

    "As part of its surrender, Nazi Germany ceded some territory it had occupied previously. Russian Federation is the legal successor state of USSR. The land is question is therefore legally part of RF."

    This is far too simplistic -- a delusion -- because it omits key facts presented in my initial contribution. New principles regarding occupation were established in 1945. If this territory were actually a legitimate part of the Russian Federation then various Russian leaders would not have covertly attempted to get rid of it under favorable financial conditions. They would have restored the historical city instead of intentionally allowing it to become completely dilapidated. It may not be quite as bad as Haiti, but the following article from 2015 highlights that Russia is not bothering to make any basic investments. They know in the back of their minds that they will eventually have to vacate this region. Therefore, it has basically degenerated to a huge military facility, where regular civilians do not want to live. Or, do you want to assert that the conditions described in the following piece are standard fare for all of Russia?

    Baltic Sea States Aghast At Russian Exclave's Sewage Dumping

    June 04, 2015

    https://www.rferl.org/a/kaliningrad-baltic-sea-sewage/27053241.html

    "Kaliningrad, in terms of water pipes and sewers, is a completely medieval city that pours its waste into the gutter. Just as they splashed it out the window in medieval cities, we throw it out not far from Kaliningrad, in just the same way," said Aleksandra Korolyova, a Kaliningrad-based activist with the Russian group Ekozashchita (Environmental Protection). "It's very clearly visible: It's just a black torrent that pours out of the pipe directly into the lagoon, and the lagoon is part of the sea."

    Even Putin, in his 2016 interview with Bloomberg, which broached the Kaliningrad question, did not claim that the region is legally part of Russia but chose a diversionary rhetorical tactic of dissimulation, replete with irrelevant references.

    "...and now NATO surrounding Russia with bases and threatening its security and existence."

    This is a popular cliché one can often read or hear at Sputnik and RT, and I see you are repeating it blindly. The pertinent question you ought to answer, along with credible documentation -- if you can -- is:

    Has any an official of any country, aside from some crazy Ukrainian fascist, seriously threatened to invade and occupy any Russian territory recently? (Obviously this does not include the Königsberg / Kaliningrad region, which Russia deserves to be kicked out from if its leaders are too stupid or arrogant to refuse to leave voluntarily.)
    , @FB
    Avery...don't feed the trolls...

    This is the first time I have actually seen a what I would consider a real live troll here on Unz...

    Look at this guy 'been there done that'...he had zero commenting history until he posted his 1,600 word bullshit opus here the other day...

    He has just linked to a Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty article about Russians supposedly dumping raw sewage into the sea in Kaliningrad...

    Who links to official US propaganda RFE here...?...I have not seen it happen until now...

    Clearly this guy is a paid propagandist...

    But Unz readers here ignored him or laughed off his initial 1,600 word bullshit opus...

    Here is Jacques Sheete's brush off to this stupid troll...

    '...Thanks for saving me the trouble of reading your wordy baloney. After reading that drivel, I stopped. There is nothing false about the concept that Russia is not a threat to the West...'

     

    Here is Rurik telling the troll where to stuff it...

    '...with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded...

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an “aggressive posture”, rather that’s been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can’t see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you’re simply blinded by your ideological agendas...'
     
    This asswipe troll would have remained unengaged on this thread after these two replies which very swiftly dismissed his bullshit out of hand...were it not for a couple of others who decided to engage him in actual debate...

    This is exactly what trolls want...they seek to bait someone into taking the hook so they can prolong the BS...

    This asswipe troll is yapping about 'international law' because he thinks he can pull the wool over people's eyes...

    There is no international law issue whatsoever...that is in the realm of science fiction...Russia's borders are internationally recognized and nothing other than a UN security council resolution...[the only legally binding international law]...or a treaty signed by Russia can change this legal fact...

    Ie this troll is simply lying...

    [Since Russia has UNSC veto and since it will never cede an inch of its territory...just ask the Japs...there is zero 'legal issue' here...]

    We note here that UNSC Resolution 1244... pertaining to Kosovo...

    '...Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region, as set out in the Helsinki Final Act and annex 2..'
     
    Yet despite this, the US and EU are trying to build a fake Kosovo state...which they can never accomplish unless they get a UNSC resolution...or unless Serbia itself makes a treaty ceding Kosovo...

    That is why Kosovo cannot have a UN representative...it is legally not a country...

    Of course the US and its EU sockpuppets continue to thumb their nose at international law...with the US building and maintaining the huge Camp Bondsteel military base on what is legally Serbian territory...without the permission of Serbia...

    As well as violating each and every provision of UNSC 1244...which spells out for Serbian border forces controlling the Kosovo border with surrounding nations...

    Note also in the above quote from UNSC 1244 the reference to the Helsinki Final Act...

    '...III. Inviolability of frontiers

    The participating States regard as inviolable all one another's frontiers as well as the frontiers of all States in Europe and therefore they will refrain now and in the future from assaulting these frontiers.

    Accordingly, they will also refrain from any demand for, or act of, seizure and usurpation of part or all of the territory of any participating State...'
     
    Also Section IV...

    '...IV. Territorial integrity of States

    The participating States will respect the territorial integrity of each of the participating States.

    Accordingly, they will refrain from any action inconsistent with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations against the territorial integrity, political independence or the unity of any participating State, and in particular from any such action constituting a threat or use of force...'
     
    Now some on the Imperialist US side will argue that the Helsinki Accords are not legally binding...in the way that UNSC resolutions definitively are...

    But here again they stand on loose legal ground because the US is not a signatory to the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties...

    As usual the McChicken Empire wants to have its cake and eat it too...

    And then you have trolls here talking about Kaliningrad...this isn't even on the agenda of the neocon stink tanks...only the lunatic fringe that no one pays attention to is yipping about Kaliningrad...

    So this asswipe troll comes on here spouting a whole bunch of BS that everybody just brushed off...yet you continue to engage this idiot...why...?

    If you really want to get an idea of what these fringe losers are saying about Kaliningrad at least go to the horse's mouth...

    Here's a 2015 paper from the UK...

    '...The Case for Secession of the Königsberg Region in International Law Perspective..'
     
    Although the entire subject is crazy...at least reading this you will be able to spot instantly how thick and heavy this 'been there done that' troll is laying on the bullshit...

    '...it would be within the long-term interests of the United States and the Transatlantic Alliance to emphasize the policy of the non-recognition of the incorporation of the Königsberg region into the Soviet Union...'
     
    Ooh...'non-recognition'...big deal...

    Ie this is a nothingburger...there is nothing there...

    This despicable troll is playing on the assumed ignorance of the Unz community to sell us a total load of crap...

    Notice the part where he claims Gorbachev was trying to 'sell' Kaliningrad...?

    How stupid does he take us for...?

    Why didn't they buy it when it was 'up for sale...?'...LOL...

    Like I told this loser...if someone wants to take a piece of Russia they are going to have to fight for it...

    Anyway...if I were this loser I would be more concerned about the looming collapse of the McChicken Empire...starting with the imminent collapse of its ponzi economy...

    Once the McChiken Empire collapses all the wrongs will be dealt with...

    First and foremeost...the crimes against peace...the supreme war crime under the Nuremberg Standard...

    This includes the illegal aggression on Yugoslavia in 1999...

    The illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003...

    As well as many more war crimes in Afghanistan, Libya, Syria etc...

    Do not worry Avery...we will all get our satisfying chunk of the rotting McChicken flesh soon enough...

    Until then please stop feeding this ugly useless troll...
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  151. FB says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    "I agree with you the Soviet system had some amazing qualities which resulted in some amazing human progress…

    But that baby seems to have been thrown out with the bathwater…the capitalist propaganda seems to have won…socialism is a dirty word…even to those who would benefit most from a humanistic and socially responsible system…"

    In Russia socialism seems not to be a dirty word. I actually believe it is the only and the best way for Russia to go. Regarding the rest. capitalism in the west was capable to maintain status quo because there has been vast periphery to be plundered and US$ has been another tool to transfer wealth form the rest. It cannot continue. Once people feels hunger and pain in real terms not imaginary things start changing dramatically. Social changes always require suffering. Nobody would exert himself on full stomach.

    Consumption is a big issue but human numbers too. Consumption is the way capitalists condition population killing two birds with one stone. Assuring their goods are being bought and messing humans mind in terms of what important for humanity thus both making money and preventing people from realization that they are being robbed.

    I think socialism death announcement is premature thing because capitalism continuously creating conditions for own demise and especially now it becomes obvious capitalism cannot resolve no pressing issue of our or future times, makes lives of more an more people miserable and selling our future, hence rising debts. Add to this habitat destruction and we are facing extinction including our own.
    I also believe that long term humanity survival depends upon exploitation and exploration of Solar system resources and development of non fossil fuels energy sources. I am not talking wind and other renewable but thermonuclear power. Soviet system or something close mobilizing human potential for big goals could have achieved this.

    ‘…capitalism in the west was capable to maintain status quo because there has been vast periphery to be plundered and US$ has been another tool to transfer wealth form the rest…’

    Absolutely true…

    The mechanism can be explained quite nicely with the mathematics of exponential growth…

    An economy that grows year over year in perpetuity is an example of exponential growth…yet this is the entire foundation of our system…it must grow in perpetuity…

    As soon as there are just six months of no growth or contraction…it is officially a ‘recession’…

    So how do you keep this unsustainable ponzi scheme going…?

    Like you said…it has been done through plundering of the ‘periphery’…ie the resources of Africa and other poor nations…as well as even the developed and developing countries by means of the US dollar reserve currency status which means there is always an artifiical demand for US dollars because it is the only way to trade…

    But as the periphery is offering less and less opportunity for US exploitation…[the BRICS countries combined GDP now surpasses that of the G7]…the plundering must come increasingly from the home base…

    This is exactly why the US middle class is dying…there has been no increase in real income and wealth for the middle class in 40 years…in fact it has decreased…

    This robbing of the home base is necessary in order to keep the ponzi scheme afloat…and will likely continue until people do actually feel real hunger…you are right about that…real hunger is the only thing that will get couch potatoes off the couch and into the streets…

    As for Russia…I agree with you completely…

    My one big disappointment with Putin is that he has never reformed the Russian consitution which was written by Goldman Sachs in the Yeltsin era…

    The Russian central bank is completely out of the reach of either the Russian government or judiciary…that is enshrined in the constitution…

    The Russian central bank is part and parcel of the global parasite cabal…led by the Fed…and there is nothing Putin can do about this without revamping the constitution and kicking out the parasites…

    I don’t know why this has not happened yet…the progress Russia has made in the last two decades is remarkable…but this has been done with one hand tied behind its back…

    Imagine what it could do as a real sovereign country…with control over its own money…this is not the case now…

    I have hopes that Putin will do this in this his last term in office…if he does not then I will start to believe those who consider him a neoliberal at bottom…or perhaps some kind of deal going back 20 years…which I consider unlikely…

    We note here that it took Stalin 16 years to gain control of the Soviet central bank and purge the parasites both foreign and domestic…

    China doesn’t have this restraint…they are fully in charge of their money…which has made all the difference…

    PCR has long yelled at Putin to take action and put Russia on a course to real prosperity…but Putin has just kept putting in neoliberals in charge of the nation’s finances…this is outrageous…

    Let’s see what happens in the coming six years…maybe finally Putin will clean house…

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    You got math background to actually see through these schemes. I just used to read a lot of historical materials when young and has been following and living through all that has been happening since Brezhnev. I have gut feeling which is often right.
    What you wrote about Russian Central bank and Putin policy over the past 18 years towards it is what I also agree about. Current constitution should be obviously redone. However here comes the question. Where is Russia going? What are Putin's goals and those behind him? Constitution is written with long term goals and targets in mind to keep things within certain framework. Private or state ownership of the means of production and exploitation for example...What society is to be built. Human rights, what are they and so forth. Bank? I wonder why bank independence from state should be in constitution at all. But considering it is now, it must be taken care of. Building capitalistic Russia? Not going to work. Actually I think his program of reducing poverty is a joke. There will be always fight against the poverty in capitalistic society because capitalism is what creating poverty. Somehow under his rule while poverty increased in the past 6 years rich became wealthier.
    I do not believe in what many think as his evolutionary not revolutionary approach. The whole evolution thing in social sphere never happens until revolutionary change.
    I do not hold my breath. The only reason I would vote for him because he is smart operator in regard to international affairs and know his ropes with excellent team. Current times are dangerous and changing horses before crossing the river is not the best idea now. Otherwise, i am not his supporter and I do not actually like him at all.
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  152. @FB

    '...capitalism in the west was capable to maintain status quo because there has been vast periphery to be plundered and US$ has been another tool to transfer wealth form the rest...'
     
    Absolutely true...

    The mechanism can be explained quite nicely with the mathematics of exponential growth...

    An economy that grows year over year in perpetuity is an example of exponential growth...yet this is the entire foundation of our system...it must grow in perpetuity...

    As soon as there are just six months of no growth or contraction...it is officially a 'recession'...

    So how do you keep this unsustainable ponzi scheme going...?

    Like you said...it has been done through plundering of the 'periphery'...ie the resources of Africa and other poor nations...as well as even the developed and developing countries by means of the US dollar reserve currency status which means there is always an artifiical demand for US dollars because it is the only way to trade...

    But as the periphery is offering less and less opportunity for US exploitation...[the BRICS countries combined GDP now surpasses that of the G7]...the plundering must come increasingly from the home base...

    This is exactly why the US middle class is dying...there has been no increase in real income and wealth for the middle class in 40 years...in fact it has decreased...

    This robbing of the home base is necessary in order to keep the ponzi scheme afloat...and will likely continue until people do actually feel real hunger...you are right about that...real hunger is the only thing that will get couch potatoes off the couch and into the streets...

    As for Russia...I agree with you completely...

    My one big disappointment with Putin is that he has never reformed the Russian consitution which was written by Goldman Sachs in the Yeltsin era...

    The Russian central bank is completely out of the reach of either the Russian government or judiciary...that is enshrined in the constitution...

    The Russian central bank is part and parcel of the global parasite cabal...led by the Fed...and there is nothing Putin can do about this without revamping the constitution and kicking out the parasites...

    I don't know why this has not happened yet...the progress Russia has made in the last two decades is remarkable...but this has been done with one hand tied behind its back...

    Imagine what it could do as a real sovereign country...with control over its own money...this is not the case now...

    I have hopes that Putin will do this in this his last term in office...if he does not then I will start to believe those who consider him a neoliberal at bottom...or perhaps some kind of deal going back 20 years...which I consider unlikely...

    We note here that it took Stalin 16 years to gain control of the Soviet central bank and purge the parasites both foreign and domestic...

    China doesn't have this restraint...they are fully in charge of their money...which has made all the difference...

    PCR has long yelled at Putin to take action and put Russia on a course to real prosperity...but Putin has just kept putting in neoliberals in charge of the nation's finances...this is outrageous...

    Let's see what happens in the coming six years...maybe finally Putin will clean house...

    You got math background to actually see through these schemes. I just used to read a lot of historical materials when young and has been following and living through all that has been happening since Brezhnev. I have gut feeling which is often right.
    What you wrote about Russian Central bank and Putin policy over the past 18 years towards it is what I also agree about. Current constitution should be obviously redone. However here comes the question. Where is Russia going? What are Putin’s goals and those behind him? Constitution is written with long term goals and targets in mind to keep things within certain framework. Private or state ownership of the means of production and exploitation for example…What society is to be built. Human rights, what are they and so forth. Bank? I wonder why bank independence from state should be in constitution at all. But considering it is now, it must be taken care of. Building capitalistic Russia? Not going to work. Actually I think his program of reducing poverty is a joke. There will be always fight against the poverty in capitalistic society because capitalism is what creating poverty. Somehow under his rule while poverty increased in the past 6 years rich became wealthier.
    I do not believe in what many think as his evolutionary not revolutionary approach. The whole evolution thing in social sphere never happens until revolutionary change.
    I do not hold my breath. The only reason I would vote for him because he is smart operator in regard to international affairs and know his ropes with excellent team. Current times are dangerous and changing horses before crossing the river is not the best idea now. Otherwise, i am not his supporter and I do not actually like him at all.

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  153. Anon[342] • Disclaimer says:
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    ….and ‘they’ hate Putin because he’s a good Christian man.
    ‘They’ really hate him because he reestablished the Christian Orthodox faith in Mother Russia.
     
    I have a good IC source who told me that Assad became a Christian (at Our Lady of Damascus). All on the q.t. of course. This could explain why the two most Christ-hating countries in the Middle East (Israel & KSA) have sought to remove him.

    This is pure BS. But one can see the propaganda value of the alleged fake conversion can bring to the KSA and Israel

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  154. @Avery
    {You appear to have absolutely no regard for the adherence to international laws and conventions.}

    Who does? US? UK? NATO?

    As just one example, the two main pillars of NATO, those who scream the loudest about the so-called 'international laws and conventions' invaded - illegally* - the sovereign country of Iraq, wrecked it, and caused the deaths of several hundred thousand innocent Iraqi civilians. Iraq no longer exists as a viable state. US and UK are also responsible for the mass murders committed by ISIS in Iraq, since US&UK destroyed a viable, functioning state and created the conditions for ISIS to exist. Since the invasion was illegal, both US and UK committed a war crime: how many US or UK officials responsible for that war crime have been punished to date?

    What 'international laws and conventions'?

    US today, amongst several other NATO member countries, in in Syria _illegally_, maintaining military presence and illegally attempting to overthrow its legal government.

    What 'international laws and conventions'?

    NATO member Turkey is sill occupying 40% of sovereign state of Cyprus 40 years after its illegal invasion: has US or NATO or anybody else lecturing the rest of the world about 'international laws and conventions' done anything about it?


    {... that Russia has no valid claim to that land and is still occupying it illegally.}

    Sure it does:
    -Nazi Germany _invaded_ USSR in 1941.
    - After 4 years of bloody war, after losing ~10 million troops, after losing ~15 million of its civilians, USSR defeated the genocidal, criminal regime of Nazi Germany which was planning to exterminate all Slavs of USSR and steal their lands . Nazi Germany signed an unconditional surrender with the Allies, including USSR. As part of its surrender, Nazi Germany ceded some territory it had occupied previously. Russian Federation is the legal successor state of USSR. The land is question is therefore legally part of RF.


    { By remaining there they threaten Europe }

    It's Europe which has repeatedly threatened and invaded Russia.
    Napoleon, Hitler, and now NATO surrounding Russia with bases and threatening its security and existence.

    Now, what else have you got?


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    The thrust of your argument, which I find to be rather weak, seems to be that if the USA and UK have violated international law then it is perfectly all right for Russia to do so too. This comes across as advocacy for international gangster-ism.

    “As part of its surrender, Nazi Germany ceded some territory it had occupied previously. Russian Federation is the legal successor state of USSR. The land is question is therefore legally part of RF.”

    This is far too simplistic — a delusion — because it omits key facts presented in my initial contribution. New principles regarding occupation were established in 1945. If this territory were actually a legitimate part of the Russian Federation then various Russian leaders would not have covertly attempted to get rid of it under favorable financial conditions. They would have restored the historical city instead of intentionally allowing it to become completely dilapidated. It may not be quite as bad as Haiti, but the following article from 2015 highlights that Russia is not bothering to make any basic investments. They know in the back of their minds that they will eventually have to vacate this region. Therefore, it has basically degenerated to a huge military facility, where regular civilians do not want to live. Or, do you want to assert that the conditions described in the following piece are standard fare for all of Russia?

    Baltic Sea States Aghast At Russian Exclave’s Sewage Dumping

    June 04, 2015

    https://www.rferl.org/a/kaliningrad-baltic-sea-sewage/27053241.html

    “Kaliningrad, in terms of water pipes and sewers, is a completely medieval city that pours its waste into the gutter. Just as they splashed it out the window in medieval cities, we throw it out not far from Kaliningrad, in just the same way,” said Aleksandra Korolyova, a Kaliningrad-based activist with the Russian group Ekozashchita (Environmental Protection). “It’s very clearly visible: It’s just a black torrent that pours out of the pipe directly into the lagoon, and the lagoon is part of the sea.”

    Even Putin, in his 2016 interview with Bloomberg, which broached the Kaliningrad question, did not claim that the region is legally part of Russia but chose a diversionary rhetorical tactic of dissimulation, replete with irrelevant references.

    “…and now NATO surrounding Russia with bases and threatening its security and existence.”

    This is a popular cliché one can often read or hear at Sputnik and RT, and I see you are repeating it blindly. The pertinent question you ought to answer, along with credible documentation — if you can — is:

    Has any an official of any country, aside from some crazy Ukrainian fascist, seriously threatened to invade and occupy any Russian territory recently? (Obviously this does not include the Königsberg / Kaliningrad region, which Russia deserves to be kicked out from if its leaders are too stupid or arrogant to refuse to leave voluntarily.)

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  155. @Sergey Krieger
    "I agree with you the Soviet system had some amazing qualities which resulted in some amazing human progress…

    But that baby seems to have been thrown out with the bathwater…the capitalist propaganda seems to have won…socialism is a dirty word…even to those who would benefit most from a humanistic and socially responsible system…"

    In Russia socialism seems not to be a dirty word. I actually believe it is the only and the best way for Russia to go. Regarding the rest. capitalism in the west was capable to maintain status quo because there has been vast periphery to be plundered and US$ has been another tool to transfer wealth form the rest. It cannot continue. Once people feels hunger and pain in real terms not imaginary things start changing dramatically. Social changes always require suffering. Nobody would exert himself on full stomach.

    Consumption is a big issue but human numbers too. Consumption is the way capitalists condition population killing two birds with one stone. Assuring their goods are being bought and messing humans mind in terms of what important for humanity thus both making money and preventing people from realization that they are being robbed.

    I think socialism death announcement is premature thing because capitalism continuously creating conditions for own demise and especially now it becomes obvious capitalism cannot resolve no pressing issue of our or future times, makes lives of more an more people miserable and selling our future, hence rising debts. Add to this habitat destruction and we are facing extinction including our own.
    I also believe that long term humanity survival depends upon exploitation and exploration of Solar system resources and development of non fossil fuels energy sources. I am not talking wind and other renewable but thermonuclear power. Soviet system or something close mobilizing human potential for big goals could have achieved this.

    ” Social changes always require suffering”

    Absurd nonsense. Or are you trying to make a natural law out of your brainless romantization of ensuing suffering caused by the implementation of : Socialism/Communism.
    In Cuba they have been enduring the suffering and birth pains of Socialism for fifty-nine years with no change in sight. With no vision of an end to the “necessary” suffering you are propagating.

    “Nobody would exert themselves on full stomach”

    And they will exert themselves even less on a empty stomach, as was evident in the east block “Worker’s Paradises”, where three people were employed to do one man’s job, and then they did not accomplish the goal.

    Look friend you cannot BS myself as I have spent time in several East-block countries long before the fall of the Berlin wall, and I vividely remember the somber, morgue-like atmosphere of the cities, and the dead eyes of the hopeless, disheartened citizenry, the folks who according to you, were simply experiencing the “required” suffering on the way to a manifested “Workers and farmers paradise”

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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    '...I have spent time in several East-block countries long before the fall of the Berlin wall, and I vividely [sic] remember the somber, morgue-like atmosphere of the cities, and the dead eyes of the hopeless, disheartened citizenry...'
     
    My experience was completely the opposite...

    My first experience in the East Bloc was in the 1980s as an exchange student...I stayed with a family that had a son my age [high school senior]...the father was an engineer and the mother a veterinary doctor...

    They had a somewhat small but very livable two bedroom apartment in a low-rise building...they had a small but fuel efficient car...

    The several months I spent in that home and that town were a life-changing revelation for me...

    At first everything seemed too small and lacking in creature comforts...but that initial phase lasted only a few days...

    Soon a very different and much stronger impression emerged...one of complete freedom from worry about finances and job security...

    At home, my parents both worked, had a mortgage and were in a constant state of low-key but nonetheless palpable anxiety that I really could not understand as a child...

    As I stayed with my host family I wished I could just swap our lives...the lack of tension about someone controlling your fate...your job...even the roof over your head...was simply a revelation...

    I remember thinking I would gladly give up our much bigger house...two cars etc... just for the quality of life of these people...the peace of mind...the relaxed atmosphere in the home...

    My host family took me on a 10 day vacation and I got to see the whole country...it was carefree like that everywhere...people didn't seem to have any qualms whatsoever about their boss or any such thing...

    I noticed that people didn't act the same as back home...they didn't show that peculiar Western stress that we all live with...

    The social life was another revelation...being at that age dating was a primary driver in life...the relaxed mindset of the girls was incredibly refreshing and attractive to me...

    So in all fairness to your comment, I have to wonder about the actual circumstances of your visit...it certainly does not begin to describe the completely different and relaxed world that I discovered...
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  156. CanSpeccy says: • Website
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    My point exactly. Ruling elites in the US are just like rabies virus: parasites killing the host. As I live in the US, I still hope that the host can be saved, but with every passing year I am less and less sure that this is possible.

    Ruling elites in the US are just like rabies virus: parasites killing the host.

    I think that is a far from accurate analogy. Elites are generally power-maximizing and psychopathic. Members of the elite who are not psychopaths emulate psychopathic behavior because that is the winning strategy.

    In the international sphere, national elites compete, one on one, or more usually in alliances, to mug one another. Major conflicts are followed by periods of recovery, reconstruction and rearmament. Russia lost its empire in 1991 and in its thus weakened condition became a prime target for Western takeover, break-up and exploitation.

    Initially the plan was to proceed by subversion, color revolution, bribery and corruption. But Putin saw off that attack, and rebuilt Russia’s military.

    Now the (US-led) Western objective is to soften Russia up by way of indirect conflicts in Syria and Iran, while undermining the economy of Russia’s ally, China. The hope must be that the conflict will be so damaging to Russia’s economy and the welfare of the Russian people, that Putin or his successor will be discredited and the Fifth Column empowered (a direct assault on Russia being precluded by Russia’s vast strategic nuclear arsenal).

    The same analysis can be applied to the World wars, the Napoleonic wars, and the earlier struggles among Britain, Holland, France and Spain. So we are dealing not with mindless madness but psychopathology, which tends to be hugely damaging to the interests of the common people (a fact of no consequence to the elite), although if “our side” wins a round, we may all be better off for a generation or so, as in the case of the US following WWII.

    Can this age-old pattern change. It’s hard to see how, although if the struggle goes nuclear, there will surely be a longish pause, maybe a thousand years, before the conflict is renewed.

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    You sound like Einstein, who said something like “I don’t know what WWIII will be fought with, but WWIV will be fought with stones and arrows”.
    My only hope is for the best feature of the US elites: cowardice. China is undermining the dollar Ponzi scheme with petro-yuan since late March. I have no doubt that “military superiority” is also a Ponzi scheme (in the last three weeks seven US aircraft crashed; before that it transpired that none of the heavily advertised Patriot missiles intercepted a single Houthi rocket in KSA, and two of them actually lost control and crashed in the residential areas of Riyadh). So, I hope that some of the US generals deep down know that and would be reluctant to kill a myth by a direct confrontation with Russia. We’ll see soon enough: the US and its vassals just staged yet another puppet show in Syria, claiming that Syrian army used chemical weapons in the last stronghold of head-choppers in Ghouta.
    , @Anonymous

    although if “our side” wins a round, we may all be better off for a generation or so, as in the case of the US following WWII.
     
    If the globalists win everything will change in ways you can't even imagine. The world has never seen a single power centre ruling over everyone and every inch of the planet. No peers. No one to to challenge the structure. No one to offer a mirror or example. Nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Did you miss the frantic development of surveillance/control/enforcement techs in the past couple of decades? That's a preparation for total subjugation of the future NWO populace.

    For starters, they'll cull the goyim to a fraction of their size. They won't be needed in a fully realised unipolar world.

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  157. FB says:
    @Avery
    {You appear to have absolutely no regard for the adherence to international laws and conventions.}

    Who does? US? UK? NATO?

    As just one example, the two main pillars of NATO, those who scream the loudest about the so-called 'international laws and conventions' invaded - illegally* - the sovereign country of Iraq, wrecked it, and caused the deaths of several hundred thousand innocent Iraqi civilians. Iraq no longer exists as a viable state. US and UK are also responsible for the mass murders committed by ISIS in Iraq, since US&UK destroyed a viable, functioning state and created the conditions for ISIS to exist. Since the invasion was illegal, both US and UK committed a war crime: how many US or UK officials responsible for that war crime have been punished to date?

    What 'international laws and conventions'?

    US today, amongst several other NATO member countries, in in Syria _illegally_, maintaining military presence and illegally attempting to overthrow its legal government.

    What 'international laws and conventions'?

    NATO member Turkey is sill occupying 40% of sovereign state of Cyprus 40 years after its illegal invasion: has US or NATO or anybody else lecturing the rest of the world about 'international laws and conventions' done anything about it?


    {... that Russia has no valid claim to that land and is still occupying it illegally.}

    Sure it does:
    -Nazi Germany _invaded_ USSR in 1941.
    - After 4 years of bloody war, after losing ~10 million troops, after losing ~15 million of its civilians, USSR defeated the genocidal, criminal regime of Nazi Germany which was planning to exterminate all Slavs of USSR and steal their lands . Nazi Germany signed an unconditional surrender with the Allies, including USSR. As part of its surrender, Nazi Germany ceded some territory it had occupied previously. Russian Federation is the legal successor state of USSR. The land is question is therefore legally part of RF.


    { By remaining there they threaten Europe }

    It's Europe which has repeatedly threatened and invaded Russia.
    Napoleon, Hitler, and now NATO surrounding Russia with bases and threatening its security and existence.

    Now, what else have you got?


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    Avery…don’t feed the trolls…

    This is the first time I have actually seen a what I would consider a real live troll here on Unz…

    Look at this guy ‘been there done that’…he had zero commenting history until he posted his 1,600 word bullshit opus here the other day…

    He has just linked to a Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty article about Russians supposedly dumping raw sewage into the sea in Kaliningrad…

    Who links to official US propaganda RFE here…?…I have not seen it happen until now…

    Clearly this guy is a paid propagandist…

    But Unz readers here ignored him or laughed off his initial 1,600 word bullshit opus…

    Here is Jacques Sheete’s brush off to this stupid troll…

    ‘…Thanks for saving me the trouble of reading your wordy baloney. After reading that drivel, I stopped. There is nothing false about the concept that Russia is not a threat to the West…’

    Here is Rurik telling the troll where to stuff it…

    ‘…with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded…

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an “aggressive posture”, rather that’s been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can’t see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you’re simply blinded by your ideological agendas…’

    This asswipe troll would have remained unengaged on this thread after these two replies which very swiftly dismissed his bullshit out of hand…were it not for a couple of others who decided to engage him in actual debate…

    This is exactly what trolls want…they seek to bait someone into taking the hook so they can prolong the BS…

    This asswipe troll is yapping about ‘international law’ because he thinks he can pull the wool over people’s eyes…

    There is no international law issue whatsoever…that is in the realm of science fiction…Russia’s borders are internationally recognized and nothing other than a UN security council resolution…[the only legally binding international law]…or a treaty signed by Russia can change this legal fact…

    Ie this troll is simply lying…

    [Since Russia has UNSC veto and since it will never cede an inch of its territory...just ask the Japs...there is zero 'legal issue' here...]

    We note here that UNSC Resolution 1244… pertaining to Kosovo…

    ‘…Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region, as set out in the Helsinki Final Act and annex 2..’

    Yet despite this, the US and EU are trying to build a fake Kosovo state…which they can never accomplish unless they get a UNSC resolution…or unless Serbia itself makes a treaty ceding Kosovo…

    That is why Kosovo cannot have a UN representative…it is legally not a country…

    Of course the US and its EU sockpuppets continue to thumb their nose at international law…with the US building and maintaining the huge Camp Bondsteel military base on what is legally Serbian territory…without the permission of Serbia…

    As well as violating each and every provision of UNSC 1244…which spells out for Serbian border forces controlling the Kosovo border with surrounding nations…

    Note also in the above quote from UNSC 1244 the reference to the Helsinki Final Act…

    ‘…III. Inviolability of frontiers

    The participating States regard as inviolable all one another’s frontiers as well as the frontiers of all States in Europe and therefore they will refrain now and in the future from assaulting these frontiers.

    Accordingly, they will also refrain from any demand for, or act of, seizure and usurpation of part or all of the territory of any participating State…’

    Also Section IV…

    ‘…IV. Territorial integrity of States

    The participating States will respect the territorial integrity of each of the participating States.

    Accordingly, they will refrain from any action inconsistent with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations against the territorial integrity, political independence or the unity of any participating State, and in particular from any such action constituting a threat or use of force…’

    Now some on the Imperialist US side will argue that the Helsinki Accords are not legally binding…in the way that UNSC resolutions definitively are…

    But here again they stand on loose legal ground because the US is not a signatory to the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties…

    As usual the McChicken Empire wants to have its cake and eat it too…

    And then you have trolls here talking about Kaliningrad…this isn’t even on the agenda of the neocon stink tanks…only the lunatic fringe that no one pays attention to is yipping about Kaliningrad…

    So this asswipe troll comes on here spouting a whole bunch of BS that everybody just brushed off…yet you continue to engage this idiot…why…?

    If you really want to get an idea of what these fringe losers are saying about Kaliningrad at least go to the horse’s mouth…

    Here’s a 2015 paper from the UK…

    ‘…The Case for Secession of the Königsberg Region in International Law Perspective..’

    Although the entire subject is crazy…at least reading this you will be able to spot instantly how thick and heavy this ‘been there done that’ troll is laying on the bullshit…

    ‘…it would be within the long-term interests of the United States and the Transatlantic Alliance to emphasize the policy of the non-recognition of the incorporation of the Königsberg region into the Soviet Union…’

    Ooh…’non-recognition’…big deal…

    Ie this is a nothingburger…there is nothing there…

    This despicable troll is playing on the assumed ignorance of the Unz community to sell us a total load of crap…

    Notice the part where he claims Gorbachev was trying to ‘sell’ Kaliningrad…?

    How stupid does he take us for…?

    Why didn’t they buy it when it was ‘up for sale…?’…LOL…

    Like I told this loser…if someone wants to take a piece of Russia they are going to have to fight for it…

    Anyway…if I were this loser I would be more concerned about the looming collapse of the McChicken Empire…starting with the imminent collapse of its ponzi economy…

    Once the McChiken Empire collapses all the wrongs will be dealt with…

    First and foremeost…the crimes against peace…the supreme war crime under the Nuremberg Standard…

    This includes the illegal aggression on Yugoslavia in 1999…

    The illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003…

    As well as many more war crimes in Afghanistan, Libya, Syria etc…

    Do not worry Avery…we will all get our satisfying chunk of the rotting McChicken flesh soon enough…

    Until then please stop feeding this ugly useless troll…

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    This is getting funny; if I have presented "bullshit" rather than irrefutable facts and evidence (including even an embedded video at Sputnik News, of Putin at Kaliningrad just last month, expressing nostalgia about the USSR to subsequent applause), then why have you gone so hysterical?

    Your shrill drama-queen mode (far too many ad hominem attacks and gratuitous name-calling) is a giveaway for all the other readers: "Please move along now, nothing to see here" -- as the saying goes. Do us all the favor of providing an encore so others may read what the fuss is all about!

    To begin, here are two quickie questions for you:

    * On what basis do you presume to "know" my gender if I haven't posted much yet?

    * Why would Russia continue to name an occupied city after a Stalinist mass murderer?

    Also:

    Why go off on the Helsinki Final Act or on the topic of Kosovo, which do not address the core issue, which is illegal occupation? Of course Russia's borders are recognized, they just don't include the territory in question. How about checking out the International Committee of the Red Cross, which references the Hague Regulations of 1907?

    See footnote on page 7 at the following link:

    www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/publications/icrc-002-4094.pdf

    Under occupation law, the sovereign title relating to the occupied territory does not pass to the occupant, who has, therefore, to preserve as far as possible the status quo ante.

    This was nearly four decades before this basic principle was affirmed by the United Nations.

    He has just linked to a Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty article about Russians supposedly dumping raw sewage into the sea in Kaliningrad…
    Who links to official US propaganda RFE here…?…I have not seen it happen until now…


    Oh, and readers are now supposed to automatically believe that Russia wasn't actually dumping raw sewage into the Baltic Sea for many decades simply because it was also reported by Radio Free Europe, which I cited?

    Well, how about this dry Nordic report, from less than a year ago, announcing the inauguration of the new sewage treatment plant?

    www.nib.int/news_publications/cases_and_feature_stories/2104/kaliningrad_inaugurates_long-expected_wastewater_treatment_plant

    On 7 June 2017, Kaliningrad in Russia inaugurated its wastewater treatment plant. This is very good news for the Baltic Sea, say experts, because until very recently, this city of almost half a million people was pouring 150,000 cubic metres of raw sewage into the sea every day. What has been in the making for more than forty years is now up and running.

    And then, trying to make light of something that was widely reported long ago in the German press (Der Spiegel). I think readers who might doubt this report are able to use the search function on their browser, especially if they happen to be multilingual.

    Notice the part where he claims Gorbachev was trying to ‘sell’ Kaliningrad…?
    How stupid does he take us for…?
    Why didn’t they buy it when it was ‘up for sale…?’…LOL…


    As I mentioned earlier, Russia is in no legal position to "sell" occupied territory to its rightful recipient. But to answer the question: They obviously wanted far too much money; that´s a little like demanding ransom after a kidnapping -- what do you do if the person being extorted refuses to pay? But look here, there was also a vague report from 2001, perhaps a trial balloon; this time it was about £22 billion:

    Germany in secret talks with Russia to take back Konigsberg

    www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/1318819/Germany-in-secret-talks-with-Russia-to-take-back-Konigsberg.html

    Keep up the cognitive dissonance and perfunctory denials; I'm hoping for more entertainment coming from assorted die-hard Russophiles, paid shills, zombies, and promoters of gangster-ism.
    , @Avery
    Thanks for the heads-up FB re poster [Been_there_done_that]: you have him pegged.

    {…yet you continue to engage this idiot…why…?}

    Dealing with trolls presents a dilemma: on the one hand, you don't want to feed them, as you say.
    However, there is another side: as Ron Unz and many others have pointed out, for every person who takes the time and makes the effort to post a comment, there are maybe 100-200 who just read, but don't comment. I myself read lots and lots of comments, but post far less.

    So....what do we do with these troll types of posters?
    If you don't rebut and debunk their false assertions, then the casual readers take those false takeaways as facts. Posters like you and I can see the BS a mile away, but not every reader is familiar with the history of USSR/RF, for example. That is why blatant lies about Russia are taken by majority of people in US to be factual and "the truth".

    So I am not sure whether to reply to the reply to me (and the falsehoods therein) this poster published, or let it slide. I'll wait and see how my mood shifts next couple of days or so.

    Again, thanks for the info re this poster and kudos for the many highly detailed, technical posts you produce: most educational.
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  158. FB says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    " Social changes always require suffering"

    Absurd nonsense. Or are you trying to make a natural law out of your brainless romantization of ensuing suffering caused by the implementation of : Socialism/Communism.
    In Cuba they have been enduring the suffering and birth pains of Socialism for fifty-nine years with no change in sight. With no vision of an end to the "necessary" suffering you are propagating.

    "Nobody would exert themselves on full stomach"

    And they will exert themselves even less on a empty stomach, as was evident in the east block "Worker's Paradises", where three people were employed to do one man's job, and then they did not accomplish the goal.

    Look friend you cannot BS myself as I have spent time in several East-block countries long before the fall of the Berlin wall, and I vividely remember the somber, morgue-like atmosphere of the cities, and the dead eyes of the hopeless, disheartened citizenry, the folks who according to you, were simply experiencing the "required" suffering on the way to a manifested "Workers and farmers paradise"

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    ‘…I have spent time in several East-block countries long before the fall of the Berlin wall, and I vividely [sic] remember the somber, morgue-like atmosphere of the cities, and the dead eyes of the hopeless, disheartened citizenry…’

    My experience was completely the opposite…

    My first experience in the East Bloc was in the 1980s as an exchange student…I stayed with a family that had a son my age [high school senior]…the father was an engineer and the mother a veterinary doctor…

    They had a somewhat small but very livable two bedroom apartment in a low-rise building…they had a small but fuel efficient car…

    The several months I spent in that home and that town were a life-changing revelation for me…

    At first everything seemed too small and lacking in creature comforts…but that initial phase lasted only a few days…

    Soon a very different and much stronger impression emerged…one of complete freedom from worry about finances and job security…

    At home, my parents both worked, had a mortgage and were in a constant state of low-key but nonetheless palpable anxiety that I really could not understand as a child…

    As I stayed with my host family I wished I could just swap our lives…the lack of tension about someone controlling your fate…your job…even the roof over your head…was simply a revelation…

    I remember thinking I would gladly give up our much bigger house…two cars etc… just for the quality of life of these people…the peace of mind…the relaxed atmosphere in the home…

    My host family took me on a 10 day vacation and I got to see the whole country…it was carefree like that everywhere…people didn’t seem to have any qualms whatsoever about their boss or any such thing…

    I noticed that people didn’t act the same as back home…they didn’t show that peculiar Western stress that we all live with…

    The social life was another revelation…being at that age dating was a primary driver in life…the relaxed mindset of the girls was incredibly refreshing and attractive to me…

    So in all fairness to your comment, I have to wonder about the actual circumstances of your visit…it certainly does not begin to describe the completely different and relaxed world that I discovered…

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    " The father was an engineer and the mother veterinary doctor"

    So you were, without your awareness, and for propaganda purposes, quartered into a situation with an "elite" family who were afforded the benefits which were only accessible to individuals of their "academic" class, and you have absolutely no clue as to the actual sordid living conditions of the 90% which were not "studied" benefit recipients, such as in working-class areas where the electricity was shut off after 10 PM.

    "Complete freedom from worry about finances and job security":
    Great and if you tried to leave the country, which was nothing but a huge prison, without permission, you would be gunned down at the border.

    "The lack of tension about someone controlling your fate" :
    This is beyond a doubt the craziest, most absurd remark I have ever encountered regarding the conditions in a communist country, as your "total" fate was determined by the state, period.

    Your post is so full of naive bullshit, and distortions, that I simply do not have the gumption or energy to counter each individual rediculous statement

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.
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  159. @CanSpeccy

    Ruling elites in the US are just like rabies virus: parasites killing the host.
     
    I think that is a far from accurate analogy. Elites are generally power-maximizing and psychopathic. Members of the elite who are not psychopaths emulate psychopathic behavior because that is the winning strategy.

    In the international sphere, national elites compete, one on one, or more usually in alliances, to mug one another. Major conflicts are followed by periods of recovery, reconstruction and rearmament. Russia lost its empire in 1991 and in its thus weakened condition became a prime target for Western takeover, break-up and exploitation.

    Initially the plan was to proceed by subversion, color revolution, bribery and corruption. But Putin saw off that attack, and rebuilt Russia's military.

    Now the (US-led) Western objective is to soften Russia up by way of indirect conflicts in Syria and Iran, while undermining the economy of Russia's ally, China. The hope must be that the conflict will be so damaging to Russia's economy and the welfare of the Russian people, that Putin or his successor will be discredited and the Fifth Column empowered (a direct assault on Russia being precluded by Russia's vast strategic nuclear arsenal).

    The same analysis can be applied to the World wars, the Napoleonic wars, and the earlier struggles among Britain, Holland, France and Spain. So we are dealing not with mindless madness but psychopathology, which tends to be hugely damaging to the interests of the common people (a fact of no consequence to the elite), although if "our side" wins a round, we may all be better off for a generation or so, as in the case of the US following WWII.

    Can this age-old pattern change. It's hard to see how, although if the struggle goes nuclear, there will surely be a longish pause, maybe a thousand years, before the conflict is renewed.

    You sound like Einstein, who said something like “I don’t know what WWIII will be fought with, but WWIV will be fought with stones and arrows”.
    My only hope is for the best feature of the US elites: cowardice. China is undermining the dollar Ponzi scheme with petro-yuan since late March. I have no doubt that “military superiority” is also a Ponzi scheme (in the last three weeks seven US aircraft crashed; before that it transpired that none of the heavily advertised Patriot missiles intercepted a single Houthi rocket in KSA, and two of them actually lost control and crashed in the residential areas of Riyadh). So, I hope that some of the US generals deep down know that and would be reluctant to kill a myth by a direct confrontation with Russia. We’ll see soon enough: the US and its vassals just staged yet another puppet show in Syria, claiming that Syrian army used chemical weapons in the last stronghold of head-choppers in Ghouta.

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    '...the US and its vassals just staged yet another puppet show in Syria, claiming that Syrian army used chemical weapons...'
     
    Yes...that is all over the media now...'president' Dump is making threatening noises again...


    https://s20.postimg.org/73ki7sin1/Dump_Threat.jpg


    '...So, I hope that some of the US generals deep down know that and would be reluctant to kill a myth by a direct confrontation with Russia...'
     
    Beg to differ...personally would love to see things go kinetic...Sputnik reporting that Russian military and fighter jets in Syria on combat readiness...

    Let's go Dump and all your McChicken Generals...let's see what you're made of...

    , @CanSpeccy
    The alleged gas attack in Syria following the Novijoke hoax in Britain are intended to provide a justification on the level of personal morality, intelligible to the public, for an amoral engagement in Syria with Russia. The aim is likely be limited to downing some Russian planes and then bombing the Syrian army, to restore the position of the "rebels," aka head-chopping American proxies.

    The reason the American action will likely be limited is that engagement of US naval assets, for example to launch Tomahawk missiles against Russian/Syrian targets, could lead to the sinking of a US naval vessel, which would do more damage to Trump's credibility than Putin's.

    But the project, however insane, will be pursued because time is against the US, with China's economy booming and Russia's military build-up still far from complete.
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  160. Very good post and true. We had no worries about the future. I knew, I study well, i shall get better job and later shelter for free. I actually did get both job and one bed room apartment upon my graduation. I graduated with honor top of my class. There was no issues at all. Both my grandfather and dad received free apartments where we lived. Everybody of my friends parents got same. We had no worries. I have no idea whee he saw those zombylike eyes. We had good lives save some freaks who loved kitchen talks about how it was bad in ussr and good abroad.

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    I should fill in that I subsequently visited regularly to the East Bloc with my work and had many more excellent experiences...the scientific / technical community in the East was full of incredibly sharp people [and still is]...it was always a joy to go on a working trip...

    Also...my exchange student visit described above was to East Germany...I had also spent two years in West Germany when I was much younger as my father was stationed with our military there at the time...

    So I could compare somewhat the lifestyles...the life in West Germany was interesting for me too...but I was very young and did not make such observations about society as later...

    I still have friends in Eastern Germany who tell me that nothing has changed for the better, all things considered...
    , @Ivan K.
    About our lives in socialism, something which I generally support:

    We had no worries about the future.
     
    My mind immediately connects it with the fact that

    Russia betrayed herself her own nature back in 1991 (- Sergey Krieger, April 1, 2018 at 11:54 am GMT)
     

    In other words:

    Without worries about the future, a person becomes very likely to lose awareness about what is at the basis of its existence; to mishandle it; to become frivolous!

    Socialism => sleepiness ... => disaster

    This post is NOT an argument against socialism. It's about pointing to the blatant truth that the ship called Socialism, now sunk, this ship which we liked so much, had the above described design flaw. Basic design flaw.

    It is exactly because

    * we like it,

    * we want it hauled from the bottom and put back in service,

    * we practically advocate for socialism here on these pages,

    that it is our duty, and our self-interest, that we

    * acknowledge the design flaw - worded anyway you wish

    * take care that it is fixed/mended/ eliminated

    conceptually

    and once socialism is back (it must be), take care that it remains eliminated

    in practice.

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  161. FB says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    Very good post and true. We had no worries about the future. I knew, I study well, i shall get better job and later shelter for free. I actually did get both job and one bed room apartment upon my graduation. I graduated with honor top of my class. There was no issues at all. Both my grandfather and dad received free apartments where we lived. Everybody of my friends parents got same. We had no worries. I have no idea whee he saw those zombylike eyes. We had good lives save some freaks who loved kitchen talks about how it was bad in ussr and good abroad.

    I should fill in that I subsequently visited regularly to the East Bloc with my work and had many more excellent experiences…the scientific / technical community in the East was full of incredibly sharp people [and still is]…it was always a joy to go on a working trip…

    Also…my exchange student visit described above was to East Germany…I had also spent two years in West Germany when I was much younger as my father was stationed with our military there at the time…

    So I could compare somewhat the lifestyles…the life in West Germany was interesting for me too…but I was very young and did not make such observations about society as later…

    I still have friends in Eastern Germany who tell me that nothing has changed for the better, all things considered…

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  162. FB says:
    @AnonFromTN
    You sound like Einstein, who said something like “I don’t know what WWIII will be fought with, but WWIV will be fought with stones and arrows”.
    My only hope is for the best feature of the US elites: cowardice. China is undermining the dollar Ponzi scheme with petro-yuan since late March. I have no doubt that “military superiority” is also a Ponzi scheme (in the last three weeks seven US aircraft crashed; before that it transpired that none of the heavily advertised Patriot missiles intercepted a single Houthi rocket in KSA, and two of them actually lost control and crashed in the residential areas of Riyadh). So, I hope that some of the US generals deep down know that and would be reluctant to kill a myth by a direct confrontation with Russia. We’ll see soon enough: the US and its vassals just staged yet another puppet show in Syria, claiming that Syrian army used chemical weapons in the last stronghold of head-choppers in Ghouta.

    ‘…the US and its vassals just staged yet another puppet show in Syria, claiming that Syrian army used chemical weapons…’

    Yes…that is all over the media now…’president’ Dump is making threatening noises again…

    ‘…So, I hope that some of the US generals deep down know that and would be reluctant to kill a myth by a direct confrontation with Russia…’

    Beg to differ…personally would love to see things go kinetic…Sputnik reporting that Russian military and fighter jets in Syria on combat readiness…

    Let’s go Dump and all your McChicken Generals…let’s see what you’re made of…

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    Dump is a puppet. His twitter is the only place he actually rules. I hope the puppet-masters are somewhat smarter. Although I am not sure.
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  163. FB says:

    Here is Jerusalem Post carrying video of so-called chemical attack…

    Look at what the head-choppers are doing to these poor kids…

    It’s crystal clear these kids are being heartlessly used as props…that’s child abuse for crying out loud…

    I hope the SAA rounds up these White Helmet scumbags…they need to be made an example…

    Also we note that Israeli regime is urging ‘president’ Dump to attack Syria licketty split…

    Big surprise there…

    ‘…The United States must attack the regime of Bashar Assad in Syria in response to the regime chemical gas strike on the Syrian town Douma that killed more than 70 people, Strategic Affairs and Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan said Sunday…’

    Now all of a sudden they are concerned about Arab kids…while gunning down Palestinians in their own back yard…

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  164. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Ruling elites in the US are just like rabies virus: parasites killing the host.
     
    I think that is a far from accurate analogy. Elites are generally power-maximizing and psychopathic. Members of the elite who are not psychopaths emulate psychopathic behavior because that is the winning strategy.

    In the international sphere, national elites compete, one on one, or more usually in alliances, to mug one another. Major conflicts are followed by periods of recovery, reconstruction and rearmament. Russia lost its empire in 1991 and in its thus weakened condition became a prime target for Western takeover, break-up and exploitation.

    Initially the plan was to proceed by subversion, color revolution, bribery and corruption. But Putin saw off that attack, and rebuilt Russia's military.

    Now the (US-led) Western objective is to soften Russia up by way of indirect conflicts in Syria and Iran, while undermining the economy of Russia's ally, China. The hope must be that the conflict will be so damaging to Russia's economy and the welfare of the Russian people, that Putin or his successor will be discredited and the Fifth Column empowered (a direct assault on Russia being precluded by Russia's vast strategic nuclear arsenal).

    The same analysis can be applied to the World wars, the Napoleonic wars, and the earlier struggles among Britain, Holland, France and Spain. So we are dealing not with mindless madness but psychopathology, which tends to be hugely damaging to the interests of the common people (a fact of no consequence to the elite), although if "our side" wins a round, we may all be better off for a generation or so, as in the case of the US following WWII.

    Can this age-old pattern change. It's hard to see how, although if the struggle goes nuclear, there will surely be a longish pause, maybe a thousand years, before the conflict is renewed.

    although if “our side” wins a round, we may all be better off for a generation or so, as in the case of the US following WWII.

    If the globalists win everything will change in ways you can’t even imagine. The world has never seen a single power centre ruling over everyone and every inch of the planet. No peers. No one to to challenge the structure. No one to offer a mirror or example. Nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Did you miss the frantic development of surveillance/control/enforcement techs in the past couple of decades? That’s a preparation for total subjugation of the future NWO populace.

    For starters, they’ll cull the goyim to a fraction of their size. They won’t be needed in a fully realised unipolar world.

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    If the globalists win everything will change in ways you can’t even imagine.
     
    Actually, Huxley's contented "Brave New World" still looks plausible: everyone IQ-graded, brainwashed, and in a chemically-controlled good mood, happy in the service of the owners of the World.

    they’ll cull the goyim to a fraction of their size.
     
    It has occurred to me that the invasion of Europe and North America by people from everywhere may be in fulfillment of a of Noah's ark strategy, and that at some point a great plague will sweep the poorer places in the world (without public health systems able to cope with massive epidemics), reducing the world's total population to somewhere near what the globalists think optimal (i.e., to serve the needs of the globalist elite), no more, surely, than five or ten percent of the present population, but probably more than the twenty thousand or so that Isaac Asimov envisaged.
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  165. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN
    You sound like Einstein, who said something like “I don’t know what WWIII will be fought with, but WWIV will be fought with stones and arrows”.
    My only hope is for the best feature of the US elites: cowardice. China is undermining the dollar Ponzi scheme with petro-yuan since late March. I have no doubt that “military superiority” is also a Ponzi scheme (in the last three weeks seven US aircraft crashed; before that it transpired that none of the heavily advertised Patriot missiles intercepted a single Houthi rocket in KSA, and two of them actually lost control and crashed in the residential areas of Riyadh). So, I hope that some of the US generals deep down know that and would be reluctant to kill a myth by a direct confrontation with Russia. We’ll see soon enough: the US and its vassals just staged yet another puppet show in Syria, claiming that Syrian army used chemical weapons in the last stronghold of head-choppers in Ghouta.

    The alleged gas attack in Syria following the Novijoke hoax in Britain are intended to provide a justification on the level of personal morality, intelligible to the public, for an amoral engagement in Syria with Russia. The aim is likely be limited to downing some Russian planes and then bombing the Syrian army, to restore the position of the “rebels,” aka head-chopping American proxies.

    The reason the American action will likely be limited is that engagement of US naval assets, for example to launch Tomahawk missiles against Russian/Syrian targets, could lead to the sinking of a US naval vessel, which would do more damage to Trump’s credibility than Putin’s.

    But the project, however insane, will be pursued because time is against the US, with China’s economy booming and Russia’s military build-up still far from complete.

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    I hope the US Navy is not stupid enough to follow this scenario. Sinking of any US ship would leave Trump (and those behind the US façade) with egg on his face. But escalation would inevitably lead to WWIII and the end not just of the US dominance, but of the end of the US as such. I am not sure that the fact that Russia will also disappear would console the dead much.
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  166. @FB

    '...the US and its vassals just staged yet another puppet show in Syria, claiming that Syrian army used chemical weapons...'
     
    Yes...that is all over the media now...'president' Dump is making threatening noises again...


    https://s20.postimg.org/73ki7sin1/Dump_Threat.jpg


    '...So, I hope that some of the US generals deep down know that and would be reluctant to kill a myth by a direct confrontation with Russia...'
     
    Beg to differ...personally would love to see things go kinetic...Sputnik reporting that Russian military and fighter jets in Syria on combat readiness...

    Let's go Dump and all your McChicken Generals...let's see what you're made of...

    Dump is a puppet. His twitter is the only place he actually rules. I hope the puppet-masters are somewhat smarter. Although I am not sure.

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  167. @CanSpeccy
    The alleged gas attack in Syria following the Novijoke hoax in Britain are intended to provide a justification on the level of personal morality, intelligible to the public, for an amoral engagement in Syria with Russia. The aim is likely be limited to downing some Russian planes and then bombing the Syrian army, to restore the position of the "rebels," aka head-chopping American proxies.

    The reason the American action will likely be limited is that engagement of US naval assets, for example to launch Tomahawk missiles against Russian/Syrian targets, could lead to the sinking of a US naval vessel, which would do more damage to Trump's credibility than Putin's.

    But the project, however insane, will be pursued because time is against the US, with China's economy booming and Russia's military build-up still far from complete.

    I hope the US Navy is not stupid enough to follow this scenario. Sinking of any US ship would leave Trump (and those behind the US façade) with egg on his face. But escalation would inevitably lead to WWIII and the end not just of the US dominance, but of the end of the US as such. I am not sure that the fact that Russia will also disappear would console the dead much.

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    I hope the US Navy is not stupid enough to follow this scenario. Sinking of any US ship would leave Trump (and those behind the US façade) with egg on his face.
     
    I'm sure they have some plausible schemes in mind: perhaps launching Tomahawks from submarines, which the Russians would find difficult to sink (the submarines, that is) with missiles, although they might be taken out by Russian submarines.

    Alternatively, the US may challenge Russia in Syria's air space, one reason being to force Russia to uses its S400 air defense system, thereby giving the US a good idea of its capability and some ideas, perhaps, on how to defeat it.

    Where Trump stands is difficult to be sure. Is he seeking to destroy Russia, or is he allowing the war hawks some rope with which they may hang themselves? Trump has used the term "globalist" as a pejorative, but that may be merelyy for the ears of his base.

    If Trump is committed to America's final push for world domination, all Hell is about to break out. If, however, the latest fake gas incident in Syria fails to dislodge Assad and his Russian allies, we might perhaps see the US begin to acknowledge its status as a normal nation, with an interest in maintaining the rights of nation states in what has been termed a Westphalian system.

    The weakness of a system of nation states is that groups of states can gang up together to mug someone, e.g., the Triple Entente of 1914 against Germany, or NATO versus Russia today. A stable nation-state system would need therefore to outlaw national combinations, even if nominally defensive. Stability would be further enhanced by outlawing offensive weapons systems while promoting defensive systems.

    If the UK were half-intelligently led, it would lead the way, shedding its alliances, sinking its stupid aircraft carriers, and developing scary defensive weapons, while at the same time seeking to be friend-of-all-the-world (i.e., all the world in their own country, not in Britain where, due to the criminal insanity of the British elite, all the world has been encouraged to migrate).

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  168. @FB
    Avery...don't feed the trolls...

    This is the first time I have actually seen a what I would consider a real live troll here on Unz...

    Look at this guy 'been there done that'...he had zero commenting history until he posted his 1,600 word bullshit opus here the other day...

    He has just linked to a Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty article about Russians supposedly dumping raw sewage into the sea in Kaliningrad...

    Who links to official US propaganda RFE here...?...I have not seen it happen until now...

    Clearly this guy is a paid propagandist...

    But Unz readers here ignored him or laughed off his initial 1,600 word bullshit opus...

    Here is Jacques Sheete's brush off to this stupid troll...

    '...Thanks for saving me the trouble of reading your wordy baloney. After reading that drivel, I stopped. There is nothing false about the concept that Russia is not a threat to the West...'

     

    Here is Rurik telling the troll where to stuff it...

    '...with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded...

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an “aggressive posture”, rather that’s been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can’t see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you’re simply blinded by your ideological agendas...'
     
    This asswipe troll would have remained unengaged on this thread after these two replies which very swiftly dismissed his bullshit out of hand...were it not for a couple of others who decided to engage him in actual debate...

    This is exactly what trolls want...they seek to bait someone into taking the hook so they can prolong the BS...

    This asswipe troll is yapping about 'international law' because he thinks he can pull the wool over people's eyes...

    There is no international law issue whatsoever...that is in the realm of science fiction...Russia's borders are internationally recognized and nothing other than a UN security council resolution...[the only legally binding international law]...or a treaty signed by Russia can change this legal fact...

    Ie this troll is simply lying...

    [Since Russia has UNSC veto and since it will never cede an inch of its territory...just ask the Japs...there is zero 'legal issue' here...]

    We note here that UNSC Resolution 1244... pertaining to Kosovo...

    '...Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region, as set out in the Helsinki Final Act and annex 2..'
     
    Yet despite this, the US and EU are trying to build a fake Kosovo state...which they can never accomplish unless they get a UNSC resolution...or unless Serbia itself makes a treaty ceding Kosovo...

    That is why Kosovo cannot have a UN representative...it is legally not a country...

    Of course the US and its EU sockpuppets continue to thumb their nose at international law...with the US building and maintaining the huge Camp Bondsteel military base on what is legally Serbian territory...without the permission of Serbia...

    As well as violating each and every provision of UNSC 1244...which spells out for Serbian border forces controlling the Kosovo border with surrounding nations...

    Note also in the above quote from UNSC 1244 the reference to the Helsinki Final Act...

    '...III. Inviolability of frontiers

    The participating States regard as inviolable all one another's frontiers as well as the frontiers of all States in Europe and therefore they will refrain now and in the future from assaulting these frontiers.

    Accordingly, they will also refrain from any demand for, or act of, seizure and usurpation of part or all of the territory of any participating State...'
     
    Also Section IV...

    '...IV. Territorial integrity of States

    The participating States will respect the territorial integrity of each of the participating States.

    Accordingly, they will refrain from any action inconsistent with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations against the territorial integrity, political independence or the unity of any participating State, and in particular from any such action constituting a threat or use of force...'
     
    Now some on the Imperialist US side will argue that the Helsinki Accords are not legally binding...in the way that UNSC resolutions definitively are...

    But here again they stand on loose legal ground because the US is not a signatory to the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties...

    As usual the McChicken Empire wants to have its cake and eat it too...

    And then you have trolls here talking about Kaliningrad...this isn't even on the agenda of the neocon stink tanks...only the lunatic fringe that no one pays attention to is yipping about Kaliningrad...

    So this asswipe troll comes on here spouting a whole bunch of BS that everybody just brushed off...yet you continue to engage this idiot...why...?

    If you really want to get an idea of what these fringe losers are saying about Kaliningrad at least go to the horse's mouth...

    Here's a 2015 paper from the UK...

    '...The Case for Secession of the Königsberg Region in International Law Perspective..'
     
    Although the entire subject is crazy...at least reading this you will be able to spot instantly how thick and heavy this 'been there done that' troll is laying on the bullshit...

    '...it would be within the long-term interests of the United States and the Transatlantic Alliance to emphasize the policy of the non-recognition of the incorporation of the Königsberg region into the Soviet Union...'
     
    Ooh...'non-recognition'...big deal...

    Ie this is a nothingburger...there is nothing there...

    This despicable troll is playing on the assumed ignorance of the Unz community to sell us a total load of crap...

    Notice the part where he claims Gorbachev was trying to 'sell' Kaliningrad...?

    How stupid does he take us for...?

    Why didn't they buy it when it was 'up for sale...?'...LOL...

    Like I told this loser...if someone wants to take a piece of Russia they are going to have to fight for it...

    Anyway...if I were this loser I would be more concerned about the looming collapse of the McChicken Empire...starting with the imminent collapse of its ponzi economy...

    Once the McChiken Empire collapses all the wrongs will be dealt with...

    First and foremeost...the crimes against peace...the supreme war crime under the Nuremberg Standard...

    This includes the illegal aggression on Yugoslavia in 1999...

    The illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003...

    As well as many more war crimes in Afghanistan, Libya, Syria etc...

    Do not worry Avery...we will all get our satisfying chunk of the rotting McChicken flesh soon enough...

    Until then please stop feeding this ugly useless troll...

    This is getting funny; if I have presented “bullshit” rather than irrefutable facts and evidence (including even an embedded video at Sputnik News, of Putin at Kaliningrad just last month, expressing nostalgia about the USSR to subsequent applause), then why have you gone so hysterical?

    Your shrill drama-queen mode (far too many ad hominem attacks and gratuitous name-calling) is a giveaway for all the other readers: “Please move along now, nothing to see here” — as the saying goes. Do us all the favor of providing an encore so others may read what the fuss is all about!

    To begin, here are two quickie questions for you:

    * On what basis do you presume to “know” my gender if I haven’t posted much yet?

    * Why would Russia continue to name an occupied city after a Stalinist mass murderer?

    Also:

    Why go off on the Helsinki Final Act or on the topic of Kosovo, which do not address the core issue, which is illegal occupation? Of course Russia’s borders are recognized, they just don’t include the territory in question. How about checking out the International Committee of the Red Cross, which references the Hague Regulations of 1907?

    See footnote on page 7 at the following link:

    http://www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/publications/icrc-002-4094.pdf

    Under occupation law, the sovereign title relating to the occupied territory does not pass to the occupant, who has, therefore, to preserve as far as possible the status quo ante.

    This was nearly four decades before this basic principle was affirmed by the United Nations.

    He has just linked to a Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty article about Russians supposedly dumping raw sewage into the sea in Kaliningrad…
    Who links to official US propaganda RFE here…?…I have not seen it happen until now…

    Oh, and readers are now supposed to automatically believe that Russia wasn’t actually dumping raw sewage into the Baltic Sea for many decades simply because it was also reported by Radio Free Europe, which I cited?

    Well, how about this dry Nordic report, from less than a year ago, announcing the inauguration of the new sewage treatment plant?

    http://www.nib.int/news_publications/cases_and_feature_stories/2104/kaliningrad_inaugurates_long-expected_wastewater_treatment_plant

    On 7 June 2017, Kaliningrad in Russia inaugurated its wastewater treatment plant. This is very good news for the Baltic Sea, say experts, because until very recently, this city of almost half a million people was pouring 150,000 cubic metres of raw sewage into the sea every day. What has been in the making for more than forty years is now up and running.

    And then, trying to make light of something that was widely reported long ago in the German press (Der Spiegel). I think readers who might doubt this report are able to use the search function on their browser, especially if they happen to be multilingual.

    Notice the part where he claims Gorbachev was trying to ‘sell’ Kaliningrad…?
    How stupid does he take us for…?
    Why didn’t they buy it when it was ‘up for sale…?’…LOL…

    As I mentioned earlier, Russia is in no legal position to “sell” occupied territory to its rightful recipient. But to answer the question: They obviously wanted far too much money; that´s a little like demanding ransom after a kidnapping — what do you do if the person being extorted refuses to pay? But look here, there was also a vague report from 2001, perhaps a trial balloon; this time it was about £22 billion:

    Germany in secret talks with Russia to take back Konigsberg

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/1318819/Germany-in-secret-talks-with-Russia-to-take-back-Konigsberg.html

    Keep up the cognitive dissonance and perfunctory denials; I’m hoping for more entertainment coming from assorted die-hard Russophiles, paid shills, zombies, and promoters of gangster-ism.

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    • Replies: @FB
    Sorry to have spoiled your ruse asswipe...

    ...but I don't talk to trolls...

    Enjoy your time here getting brushed off by those who are far smarter than you will ever be...


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  169. FB says:
    @Been_there_done_that
    This is getting funny; if I have presented "bullshit" rather than irrefutable facts and evidence (including even an embedded video at Sputnik News, of Putin at Kaliningrad just last month, expressing nostalgia about the USSR to subsequent applause), then why have you gone so hysterical?

    Your shrill drama-queen mode (far too many ad hominem attacks and gratuitous name-calling) is a giveaway for all the other readers: "Please move along now, nothing to see here" -- as the saying goes. Do us all the favor of providing an encore so others may read what the fuss is all about!

    To begin, here are two quickie questions for you:

    * On what basis do you presume to "know" my gender if I haven't posted much yet?

    * Why would Russia continue to name an occupied city after a Stalinist mass murderer?

    Also:

    Why go off on the Helsinki Final Act or on the topic of Kosovo, which do not address the core issue, which is illegal occupation? Of course Russia's borders are recognized, they just don't include the territory in question. How about checking out the International Committee of the Red Cross, which references the Hague Regulations of 1907?

    See footnote on page 7 at the following link:

    www.icrc.org/eng/assets/files/publications/icrc-002-4094.pdf

    Under occupation law, the sovereign title relating to the occupied territory does not pass to the occupant, who has, therefore, to preserve as far as possible the status quo ante.

    This was nearly four decades before this basic principle was affirmed by the United Nations.

    He has just linked to a Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty article about Russians supposedly dumping raw sewage into the sea in Kaliningrad…
    Who links to official US propaganda RFE here…?…I have not seen it happen until now…


    Oh, and readers are now supposed to automatically believe that Russia wasn't actually dumping raw sewage into the Baltic Sea for many decades simply because it was also reported by Radio Free Europe, which I cited?

    Well, how about this dry Nordic report, from less than a year ago, announcing the inauguration of the new sewage treatment plant?

    www.nib.int/news_publications/cases_and_feature_stories/2104/kaliningrad_inaugurates_long-expected_wastewater_treatment_plant

    On 7 June 2017, Kaliningrad in Russia inaugurated its wastewater treatment plant. This is very good news for the Baltic Sea, say experts, because until very recently, this city of almost half a million people was pouring 150,000 cubic metres of raw sewage into the sea every day. What has been in the making for more than forty years is now up and running.

    And then, trying to make light of something that was widely reported long ago in the German press (Der Spiegel). I think readers who might doubt this report are able to use the search function on their browser, especially if they happen to be multilingual.

    Notice the part where he claims Gorbachev was trying to ‘sell’ Kaliningrad…?
    How stupid does he take us for…?
    Why didn’t they buy it when it was ‘up for sale…?’…LOL…


    As I mentioned earlier, Russia is in no legal position to "sell" occupied territory to its rightful recipient. But to answer the question: They obviously wanted far too much money; that´s a little like demanding ransom after a kidnapping -- what do you do if the person being extorted refuses to pay? But look here, there was also a vague report from 2001, perhaps a trial balloon; this time it was about £22 billion:

    Germany in secret talks with Russia to take back Konigsberg

    www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/1318819/Germany-in-secret-talks-with-Russia-to-take-back-Konigsberg.html

    Keep up the cognitive dissonance and perfunctory denials; I'm hoping for more entertainment coming from assorted die-hard Russophiles, paid shills, zombies, and promoters of gangster-ism.

    Sorry to have spoiled your ruse asswipe…

    …but I don’t talk to trolls…

    Enjoy your time here getting brushed off by those who are far smarter than you will ever be…

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    So indeed, you did provide the requested encore, in the form of a silly yet inappropriate cartoon; I just knew you couldn't resist! Your dubious antics of thrashing about on your keyboard (including quadruple use of the term "asswipe", such courteous discourse) provide an exemplary exposition of madness encountering reason.

    Well, guess what?
    Taking issue with a specific assertion by the author (James Petras in this case), politely explaining why his quoted premises or conclusions are inaccurate by presenting useful and factual information that many people may have previously been oblivious to, backing this up with readily verifiable prima facie documentation, and rationally suggesting plausible reasons for why a central legal issue, which serves as the basis for ongoing conflict between Russia and Europe (the core topic of the article) that has gone on for decades, but has been widely and effectively obfuscated by the media, like a taboo, and evaded by Putin* when asked about it, does not in any conceivable way constitute "trolling", nor is that the case when lame or insincere challenges are subsequently rebutted rather easily, with additional information or arguments.

    Your irrational tantrum response to all this -- role-playing the self-anointed Stalinist though-police apparatchik in this comment forum -- shows off how it must hurt emotionally when one has become politically brainwashed and deluded, yet is then suddenly confronted with previously suppressed facts that disrupt a firmly conditioned mental frame. This is the phenomenon of the snowflake in the echo chamber. I hope you and your few cohorts can find a therapeutic "safe space" to run to, somewhere, with many colorful crayons to play with. Encounters like this make this forum such a humorous though valuable experience for the many readers who have not lost their sanity.


    * Here is an official transcript of the pertinent passage of the September 2016 Bloomberg interview, as supplied by the Kremlin, in which the interviewer attempts to retract his perceived faux pas of having brought up a taboo topic and Putin, obviously in no position to claim Russian sovereignty over this territory, professes openness toward discussions but elusively dissembles by bringing up other topics that may have already been settled but in any case are not a matter involving Russia:

    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/52830

    Vladimir Putin: ...Thirdly, regarding the Western part. You have mentioned Kaliningrad.

    John Micklethwait: It was a joke.

    Vladimir Putin: All jokes aside. If someone is willing to reconsider the results of World War II, let us discuss this. But then we will have to discuss not only Kaliningrad, but also the eastern lands of Germany, the city of Lvov, a former part of Poland, and so on, and so forth. There are also Hungary and Romania on the list. If someone wants to open this Pandora's box and deal with it, all right, go for it then.
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  170. Avery says:
    @FB
    Avery...don't feed the trolls...

    This is the first time I have actually seen a what I would consider a real live troll here on Unz...

    Look at this guy 'been there done that'...he had zero commenting history until he posted his 1,600 word bullshit opus here the other day...

    He has just linked to a Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty article about Russians supposedly dumping raw sewage into the sea in Kaliningrad...

    Who links to official US propaganda RFE here...?...I have not seen it happen until now...

    Clearly this guy is a paid propagandist...

    But Unz readers here ignored him or laughed off his initial 1,600 word bullshit opus...

    Here is Jacques Sheete's brush off to this stupid troll...

    '...Thanks for saving me the trouble of reading your wordy baloney. After reading that drivel, I stopped. There is nothing false about the concept that Russia is not a threat to the West...'

     

    Here is Rurik telling the troll where to stuff it...

    '...with this idiocy, you undermine your motivations as deluded...

    It is not Putin that has demonstrated an “aggressive posture”, rather that’s been the zio-west. Duh.

    if you can’t see that the wars the zio-west have perpetrated all over the globe, with assholes like John McCain and Victoria Nuland and Linda Graham, et al- driving the planet to the brink, in the service of their (((masters))), then you’re simply blinded by your ideological agendas...'
     
    This asswipe troll would have remained unengaged on this thread after these two replies which very swiftly dismissed his bullshit out of hand...were it not for a couple of others who decided to engage him in actual debate...

    This is exactly what trolls want...they seek to bait someone into taking the hook so they can prolong the BS...

    This asswipe troll is yapping about 'international law' because he thinks he can pull the wool over people's eyes...

    There is no international law issue whatsoever...that is in the realm of science fiction...Russia's borders are internationally recognized and nothing other than a UN security council resolution...[the only legally binding international law]...or a treaty signed by Russia can change this legal fact...

    Ie this troll is simply lying...

    [Since Russia has UNSC veto and since it will never cede an inch of its territory...just ask the Japs...there is zero 'legal issue' here...]

    We note here that UNSC Resolution 1244... pertaining to Kosovo...

    '...Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region, as set out in the Helsinki Final Act and annex 2..'
     
    Yet despite this, the US and EU are trying to build a fake Kosovo state...which they can never accomplish unless they get a UNSC resolution...or unless Serbia itself makes a treaty ceding Kosovo...

    That is why Kosovo cannot have a UN representative...it is legally not a country...

    Of course the US and its EU sockpuppets continue to thumb their nose at international law...with the US building and maintaining the huge Camp Bondsteel military base on what is legally Serbian territory...without the permission of Serbia...

    As well as violating each and every provision of UNSC 1244...which spells out for Serbian border forces controlling the Kosovo border with surrounding nations...

    Note also in the above quote from UNSC 1244 the reference to the Helsinki Final Act...

    '...III. Inviolability of frontiers

    The participating States regard as inviolable all one another's frontiers as well as the frontiers of all States in Europe and therefore they will refrain now and in the future from assaulting these frontiers.

    Accordingly, they will also refrain from any demand for, or act of, seizure and usurpation of part or all of the territory of any participating State...'
     
    Also Section IV...

    '...IV. Territorial integrity of States

    The participating States will respect the territorial integrity of each of the participating States.

    Accordingly, they will refrain from any action inconsistent with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations against the territorial integrity, political independence or the unity of any participating State, and in particular from any such action constituting a threat or use of force...'
     
    Now some on the Imperialist US side will argue that the Helsinki Accords are not legally binding...in the way that UNSC resolutions definitively are...

    But here again they stand on loose legal ground because the US is not a signatory to the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties...

    As usual the McChicken Empire wants to have its cake and eat it too...

    And then you have trolls here talking about Kaliningrad...this isn't even on the agenda of the neocon stink tanks...only the lunatic fringe that no one pays attention to is yipping about Kaliningrad...

    So this asswipe troll comes on here spouting a whole bunch of BS that everybody just brushed off...yet you continue to engage this idiot...why...?

    If you really want to get an idea of what these fringe losers are saying about Kaliningrad at least go to the horse's mouth...

    Here's a 2015 paper from the UK...

    '...The Case for Secession of the Königsberg Region in International Law Perspective..'
     
    Although the entire subject is crazy...at least reading this you will be able to spot instantly how thick and heavy this 'been there done that' troll is laying on the bullshit...

    '...it would be within the long-term interests of the United States and the Transatlantic Alliance to emphasize the policy of the non-recognition of the incorporation of the Königsberg region into the Soviet Union...'
     
    Ooh...'non-recognition'...big deal...

    Ie this is a nothingburger...there is nothing there...

    This despicable troll is playing on the assumed ignorance of the Unz community to sell us a total load of crap...

    Notice the part where he claims Gorbachev was trying to 'sell' Kaliningrad...?

    How stupid does he take us for...?

    Why didn't they buy it when it was 'up for sale...?'...LOL...

    Like I told this loser...if someone wants to take a piece of Russia they are going to have to fight for it...

    Anyway...if I were this loser I would be more concerned about the looming collapse of the McChicken Empire...starting with the imminent collapse of its ponzi economy...

    Once the McChiken Empire collapses all the wrongs will be dealt with...

    First and foremeost...the crimes against peace...the supreme war crime under the Nuremberg Standard...

    This includes the illegal aggression on Yugoslavia in 1999...

    The illegal invasion of Iraq in 2003...

    As well as many more war crimes in Afghanistan, Libya, Syria etc...

    Do not worry Avery...we will all get our satisfying chunk of the rotting McChicken flesh soon enough...

    Until then please stop feeding this ugly useless troll...

    Thanks for the heads-up FB re poster [Been_there_done_that]: you have him pegged.

    {…yet you continue to engage this idiot…why…?}

    Dealing with trolls presents a dilemma: on the one hand, you don’t want to feed them, as you say.
    However, there is another side: as Ron Unz and many others have pointed out, for every person who takes the time and makes the effort to post a comment, there are maybe 100-200 who just read, but don’t comment. I myself read lots and lots of comments, but post far less.

    So….what do we do with these troll types of posters?
    If you don’t rebut and debunk their false assertions, then the casual readers take those false takeaways as facts. Posters like you and I can see the BS a mile away, but not every reader is familiar with the history of USSR/RF, for example. That is why blatant lies about Russia are taken by majority of people in US to be factual and “the truth”.

    So I am not sure whether to reply to the reply to me (and the falsehoods therein) this poster published, or let it slide. I’ll wait and see how my mood shifts next couple of days or so.

    Again, thanks for the info re this poster and kudos for the many highly detailed, technical posts you produce: most educational.

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    The majority of the US population knows nothing about history of USSR/RF (or any history, for that matter), but it is not as stupid as those who create propaganda would like it to be. The prevailing feeling of the ignorant hoi polloi in the US is “we don’t want to mess with Russians, Russians are tough”.
    My personal feeling is that you should answer even trolls, for the sake of honest people who read these comments. Let them earn their meager pay from their paymasters, but don’t let them have the last word.
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  171. @Avery
    Thanks for the heads-up FB re poster [Been_there_done_that]: you have him pegged.

    {…yet you continue to engage this idiot…why…?}

    Dealing with trolls presents a dilemma: on the one hand, you don't want to feed them, as you say.
    However, there is another side: as Ron Unz and many others have pointed out, for every person who takes the time and makes the effort to post a comment, there are maybe 100-200 who just read, but don't comment. I myself read lots and lots of comments, but post far less.

    So....what do we do with these troll types of posters?
    If you don't rebut and debunk their false assertions, then the casual readers take those false takeaways as facts. Posters like you and I can see the BS a mile away, but not every reader is familiar with the history of USSR/RF, for example. That is why blatant lies about Russia are taken by majority of people in US to be factual and "the truth".

    So I am not sure whether to reply to the reply to me (and the falsehoods therein) this poster published, or let it slide. I'll wait and see how my mood shifts next couple of days or so.

    Again, thanks for the info re this poster and kudos for the many highly detailed, technical posts you produce: most educational.

    The majority of the US population knows nothing about history of USSR/RF (or any history, for that matter), but it is not as stupid as those who create propaganda would like it to be. The prevailing feeling of the ignorant hoi polloi in the US is “we don’t want to mess with Russians, Russians are tough”.
    My personal feeling is that you should answer even trolls, for the sake of honest people who read these comments. Let them earn their meager pay from their paymasters, but don’t let them have the last word.

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  172. myself says:
    @jilles dykstra
    " Why do the Western regimes now feel Russia is a greater threat then in the past? "
    Should be
    Why do the Western regimes now feel Russia is a greater threat to them then in the past?

    The answer seems quite simple to me, Russia is part of Europe, of the western world, that is, until the Ural mountains, the tzarist court spoke french, therefore controlling Russia is of the utmost importance.
    Dissidents are a nuisance.

    The answer seems quite simple to me, Russia is part of Europe, of the western world, that is, until the Ural mountains, the tzarist court spoke french, therefore controlling Russia is of the utmost importance.

    Well, not quite so simple. Russia is very Europeanized, and of course the Russian elite would be delighted to be considered full Europeans, and with them Russia itself.

    To someone, say from Africa or South America, the assumption is that since Russians look European, then their civilization and outlook, their inner soul, if you will, must also be. People in America, for example, think this way too.

    Historically though, Europeans have never considered Russia part of Europe.
    Europeans have never accepted Russia into their civilization. Not even during the Napoleonic Wars, when Russia had not yet experienced communism, certainly not after World War 2, and not today.

    Russia seems to be its own unique thing, straddling the line between being European and non-European in terms of national soul, and the fact of their white skin does not affect this conclusion.

    Russia is simply . . . Russia.

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    It a just Greeks versus Romans.
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  173. Erebus says:

    Hah! What most of us knew was coming, has…

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-08/cia-mi6-relocate-skripals-america-give-them-new-identities-report

    The Skripals will officially be disappearing. It wouldn’t surprise me to hear that they’ve already been disappeared, albeit less formally.

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    Yup...the Skripals in the warm embrace of the CIA...

    What a joke...I guess this was the backup plan if the custard pie blew up...

    In other news...we have reports just minutes ago of missiles attacking the Tiyas airbase in Syria...

    Reports are that the missiles were shot down...developing story here...

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  174. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    although if “our side” wins a round, we may all be better off for a generation or so, as in the case of the US following WWII.
     
    If the globalists win everything will change in ways you can't even imagine. The world has never seen a single power centre ruling over everyone and every inch of the planet. No peers. No one to to challenge the structure. No one to offer a mirror or example. Nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. Did you miss the frantic development of surveillance/control/enforcement techs in the past couple of decades? That's a preparation for total subjugation of the future NWO populace.

    For starters, they'll cull the goyim to a fraction of their size. They won't be needed in a fully realised unipolar world.

    If the globalists win everything will change in ways you can’t even imagine.

    Actually, Huxley’s contented “Brave New World” still looks plausible: everyone IQ-graded, brainwashed, and in a chemically-controlled good mood, happy in the service of the owners of the World.

    they’ll cull the goyim to a fraction of their size.

    It has occurred to me that the invasion of Europe and North America by people from everywhere may be in fulfillment of a of Noah’s ark strategy, and that at some point a great plague will sweep the poorer places in the world (without public health systems able to cope with massive epidemics), reducing the world’s total population to somewhere near what the globalists think optimal (i.e., to serve the needs of the globalist elite), no more, surely, than five or ten percent of the present population, but probably more than the twenty thousand or so that Isaac Asimov envisaged.

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    everyone IQ-graded, brainwashed, and in a chemically-controlled good mood, happy in the service of the owners of the World.
     
    We're already half-way there, except that the goyim are getting IQ-downgraded.
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  175. FB says:
    @Erebus
    Hah! What most of us knew was coming, has...
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-08/cia-mi6-relocate-skripals-america-give-them-new-identities-report

    The Skripals will officially be disappearing. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that they've already been disappeared, albeit less formally.

    Yup…the Skripals in the warm embrace of the CIA…

    What a joke…I guess this was the backup plan if the custard pie blew up…

    In other news…we have reports just minutes ago of missiles attacking the Tiyas airbase in Syria…

    Reports are that the missiles were shot down…developing story here…

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    Yes, the missiles flew through Lebanon airspace and were all shot down. As this looks like a pathetic failure of the attack, the US does not take responsibility. Then again, they may just worry about their ships.
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  176. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN
    I hope the US Navy is not stupid enough to follow this scenario. Sinking of any US ship would leave Trump (and those behind the US façade) with egg on his face. But escalation would inevitably lead to WWIII and the end not just of the US dominance, but of the end of the US as such. I am not sure that the fact that Russia will also disappear would console the dead much.

    I hope the US Navy is not stupid enough to follow this scenario. Sinking of any US ship would leave Trump (and those behind the US façade) with egg on his face.

    I’m sure they have some plausible schemes in mind: perhaps launching Tomahawks from submarines, which the Russians would find difficult to sink (the submarines, that is) with missiles, although they might be taken out by Russian submarines.

    Alternatively, the US may challenge Russia in Syria’s air space, one reason being to force Russia to uses its S400 air defense system, thereby giving the US a good idea of its capability and some ideas, perhaps, on how to defeat it.

    Where Trump stands is difficult to be sure. Is he seeking to destroy Russia, or is he allowing the war hawks some rope with which they may hang themselves? Trump has used the term “globalist” as a pejorative, but that may be merelyy for the ears of his base.

    If Trump is committed to America’s final push for world domination, all Hell is about to break out. If, however, the latest fake gas incident in Syria fails to dislodge Assad and his Russian allies, we might perhaps see the US begin to acknowledge its status as a normal nation, with an interest in maintaining the rights of nation states in what has been termed a Westphalian system.

    The weakness of a system of nation states is that groups of states can gang up together to mug someone, e.g., the Triple Entente of 1914 against Germany, or NATO versus Russia today. A stable nation-state system would need therefore to outlaw national combinations, even if nominally defensive. Stability would be further enhanced by outlawing offensive weapons systems while promoting defensive systems.

    If the UK were half-intelligently led, it would lead the way, shedding its alliances, sinking its stupid aircraft carriers, and developing scary defensive weapons, while at the same time seeking to be friend-of-all-the-world (i.e., all the world in their own country, not in Britain where, due to the criminal insanity of the British elite, all the world has been encouraged to migrate).

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    '...perhaps launching Tomahawks from submarines, which the Russians would find difficult to sink (the submarines, that is) with missiles, although they might be taken out by Russian submarines...'
     
    Yes launching T-hawks from subs would be safer than launching from surface ships...which would be in real danger from Russian strikes with Tu22M supersonic bombers carrying Kh22/32 ship killer missiles...

    Agree also that those subs would be in some danger from Russian subs in the area...but they would have a much better chance of survival by far compared to surface ships...

    Any surface ship launching T-hawks would be in a difficult situation if the Russians decided to pull the trigger...

    The Tupolev Tu22M is a supersonic medium-bomber that has been the mainstay anti-ship weapon platform for decades...

    It is a substantial bomber that has no analog in the West...124 ton max takeoff weight...Mach 1.9 speed...

    Its ship killer missiles are beasts...it carries three six-ton Kh22/32 missiles which have a range of 600 to 1,000 km and top speed of M4.6 to M5...


    '...Soviet tests revealed that when a shaped charge warhead weighing 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) was used in the missile, the resulting hole measured 5 m (16 ft) in diameter (19.63 m2 (211.3 sq ft)), and was 12 m (40 ft) deep.

    ...a Kh-22MA equipped with 1,000 kg (2,205 lb) RDX warhead and with an approach speed of 800 m/s (Mach 2.4), used against an aircraft carrier, will make a 22 m2 (240 sq ft) hole, and the warhead's cumulative jet will burn through internal ship compartments up to a depth of 12 m...'
     

    Those three Khs are carried underwing and in a conformal fuselage mount...

    With their standoff range of up to 1,000 km...combined with their high speed and maneuvering approach...it is likely that the USN is not going to call the Russians out on their threat to target cruise missile 'launchers' in the event of an attack on Syria...

    The Tu22M also has an internal six-round rotary missile launcher that carries six Kh15s...

    This ship killer has a much shorter standoff range...but still 300 km...it flies at Mach 5...and has a deadly maneuvering approach...


    https://s20.postimg.org/ns413u7p9/Kh-15-_Kickback-_CONOPS-1_S.jpg

    The Kh15 can also be carried by fighter size aircraft like the Su34...

    During the Cold War Russia invited a 'friendly' visit by the USN Pacific Fleet Commander in Chief to try the cockpit on for size...the look on Adm Chalres Larson face tells the story...


    http://ausairpower.net/V-MF/Backfire-Cockpit-DN-SC-91-02246-1S.jpg


    '...Alternatively, the US may challenge Russia in Syria’s air space, one reason being to force Russia to uses its S400 air defense system, thereby giving the US a good idea of its capability and some ideas, perhaps, on how to defeat it...'
     
    This is far less likely...

    It's not just the S400 but the complete integrated air defense system...which includes the A50U airborne early warning aircraft...


    https://s20.postimg.org/uz14lxixp/-76-78-_-50_0083483499_-.jpg


    Unlike ground based radars that accompany the S400 and which incoming aircraft can hide from by flying low and using terrain to hide in the radar shadows...there is no way to hide from the AEW...

    The AEW along with the mobile ground radars can also direct Russian fighters to intercept any incoming aircraft...

    It would be suicide...the only way to realistically tackle such an A2/AD zone is with a massive SEAD operation involving radar jamming aircraft like the FA18 Growler and fighters carrying radar-targeting missiles [HARMs]...

    This kind of operation would require a prolonged buildup that would be detected well in advance...most expert opinion is that current US NATO SEAD capabilities are not a match for Russian A2/AD...


    '...“We have the tools, but we do not have nearly enough of them—and the speed that we would need to eliminate these A2/AD bubbles—to be able to deploy our forces is going to be controlled by the depth of the bench of how we can attack those A2/AD forces,” retired U.S Air Force Gen. Philip Breedlove, former commander of U.S. European Command told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies on June 29.

    “Right now, we’re almost completely dependent on air forces and aviation assets in order to attack the A2/AD problem.”

    But air power might not be enough.

    Breedlove suggests that U.S. ground forces should play a role in taking on the Russian A2/AD threat. “We need more long-range, survivable, precision strike capability from the ground,” Breedlove said.

    “We need dense capability—like the dense A2/AD networks that we face.”..'
     

    This is not really news to practitioners in the air combat game...I have commented in detail about the physical realities of aircraft versus mobile air defenses...and the important factors that come into play...such as the size and power of radars carried on large trucks...vs much smaller and less powerful radars [and jammers] carried aloft on small fighter jets...

    Its a physical mismatch...same thing with missile range...the HARMs carried by fighters have a fraction of the range of the much bigger and more poweful missiles carried by the S400 trucks...

    Basic rule here...if it flies it has to be small and light...that's the physical constraint...and is why Breedlove is talking about a ground-based future approach to tackling the A2/Ad problem...

    The simple conclusion is that even a major SEAD operation against Russian air defenses in Syria would be fraught with difficulty...and would likely result in a defeat...I have discussed the technical aspects of this at some length in previous comments...

    So it is difficult to imagine how a small scale probing attack using only a few aircraft would be considered by anybody...

    I would say Dump's threats are pure bluff and bluster...just like the 'Fire and Fury' directed at Little Kim...

    But you never know...certainly some kind of US-Russia shootout in Syria would be quite interesting to see...kind of like a long-anticipated heavyweight showdown...you never know what will happen...the tale of the tape only counts on paper...

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  177. @FB
    Yup...the Skripals in the warm embrace of the CIA...

    What a joke...I guess this was the backup plan if the custard pie blew up...

    In other news...we have reports just minutes ago of missiles attacking the Tiyas airbase in Syria...

    Reports are that the missiles were shot down...developing story here...

    Yes, the missiles flew through Lebanon airspace and were all shot down. As this looks like a pathetic failure of the attack, the US does not take responsibility. Then again, they may just worry about their ships.

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    Yes, the missiles flew through Lebanon airspace and were all shot down.
     
    Can you give us a source for that?
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  178. Erebus says:

    … were all shot down.

    I haven’t seen any reports that claim more than that some portion of the attack was shot down.
    If your statement is even 80% true, it places the Patriot system’s recent performance in a rather uncomfortably stark relief.

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  180. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @AnonFromTN
    Yes, the missiles flew through Lebanon airspace and were all shot down. As this looks like a pathetic failure of the attack, the US does not take responsibility. Then again, they may just worry about their ships.

    Yes, the missiles flew through Lebanon airspace and were all shot down.

    Can you give us a source for that?

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    RT is reporting that two Israeli F15s launched a total of eight missiles from Lebanese airspace...five of the missiles were intercepted...

    '...In a statement on Monday, the Russian military said: “Two Israeli Air Force F-15 jets fired eight guided missiles at the T-4 airfield.”

    The Israeli aircraft did not enter Syrian airspace and launched the strikes while flying over Lebanon..
     
    .'

    '...Syrian air defense units have shot down five guided missiles,” the military said, but confirmed that three of the missiles “reached the western part of the airfield.”..'
     
    Sputnik is reporting the same...

    Southfront has pictures from the Tiyas airfield [T4] showing no visible damage...
    , @AnonFromTN
    Sorry, I am on CT.
    The US keeps denying its involvement
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/08/middleeast/syria-missile-strike-intl/index.html
    It appears that Israel was the culprit
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43694588
    Five out of eight missiles were intercepted
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/russia-outs-israel-two-israeli-fighter-jets-struck-iranian-base-in-syria-1.5979943
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  181. denk says:

    The same reason why fukusI[ndia] have been ganging up on China…

    John Mackinder..

    the power that controlled Eurasia’s heartland between the Volga and Yangtze and the Arctic Sea and Himalayas would control the destiny of the world.

    If the Eurasian Union becomes a successful political and economic union, the United States, Britain, Western Europe, and Japan will be confined to an economically anemic and socially decadent coastal «Rimland» where the few remaining assets will be fought over by the hungry jackals of the banking houses of Wall Street, City of London, and Frankfurt. The outbreak of wars in Syria, Ukraine, and Iraq are but the first shots of the impending war between «Oceania» and «Eurasia».

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/from-orwells-1984-color-revolutions-and-irregular-warfare-against-eurasia/5388256

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  182. @FB
    Sorry to have spoiled your ruse asswipe...

    ...but I don't talk to trolls...

    Enjoy your time here getting brushed off by those who are far smarter than you will ever be...


    https://s20.postimg.org/xmcc7zw4d/a7110de6df9767705d479ef67c25fd57.jpg

    So indeed, you did provide the requested encore, in the form of a silly yet inappropriate cartoon; I just knew you couldn’t resist! Your dubious antics of thrashing about on your keyboard (including quadruple use of the term “asswipe“, such courteous discourse) provide an exemplary exposition of madness encountering reason.

    Well, guess what?
    Taking issue with a specific assertion by the author (James Petras in this case), politely explaining why his quoted premises or conclusions are inaccurate by presenting useful and factual information that many people may have previously been oblivious to, backing this up with readily verifiable prima facie documentation, and rationally suggesting plausible reasons for why a central legal issue, which serves as the basis for ongoing conflict between Russia and Europe (the core topic of the article) that has gone on for decades, but has been widely and effectively obfuscated by the media, like a taboo, and evaded by Putin* when asked about it, does not in any conceivable way constitute “trolling”, nor is that the case when lame or insincere challenges are subsequently rebutted rather easily, with additional information or arguments.

    Your irrational tantrum response to all this — role-playing the self-anointed Stalinist though-police apparatchik in this comment forum — shows off how it must hurt emotionally when one has become politically brainwashed and deluded, yet is then suddenly confronted with previously suppressed facts that disrupt a firmly conditioned mental frame. This is the phenomenon of the snowflake in the echo chamber. I hope you and your few cohorts can find a therapeutic “safe space” to run to, somewhere, with many colorful crayons to play with. Encounters like this make this forum such a humorous though valuable experience for the many readers who have not lost their sanity.

    * Here is an official transcript of the pertinent passage of the September 2016 Bloomberg interview, as supplied by the Kremlin, in which the interviewer attempts to retract his perceived faux pas of having brought up a taboo topic and Putin, obviously in no position to claim Russian sovereignty over this territory, professes openness toward discussions but elusively dissembles by bringing up other topics that may have already been settled but in any case are not a matter involving Russia:

    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/52830

    Vladimir Putin: …Thirdly, regarding the Western part. You have mentioned Kaliningrad.

    John Micklethwait: It was a joke.

    Vladimir Putin: All jokes aside. If someone is willing to reconsider the results of World War II, let us discuss this. But then we will have to discuss not only Kaliningrad, but also the eastern lands of Germany, the city of Lvov, a former part of Poland, and so on, and so forth. There are also Hungary and Romania on the list. If someone wants to open this Pandora’s box and deal with it, all right, go for it then.

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  183. @FB

    '...I have spent time in several East-block countries long before the fall of the Berlin wall, and I vividely [sic] remember the somber, morgue-like atmosphere of the cities, and the dead eyes of the hopeless, disheartened citizenry...'
     
    My experience was completely the opposite...

    My first experience in the East Bloc was in the 1980s as an exchange student...I stayed with a family that had a son my age [high school senior]...the father was an engineer and the mother a veterinary doctor...

    They had a somewhat small but very livable two bedroom apartment in a low-rise building...they had a small but fuel efficient car...

    The several months I spent in that home and that town were a life-changing revelation for me...

    At first everything seemed too small and lacking in creature comforts...but that initial phase lasted only a few days...

    Soon a very different and much stronger impression emerged...one of complete freedom from worry about finances and job security...

    At home, my parents both worked, had a mortgage and were in a constant state of low-key but nonetheless palpable anxiety that I really could not understand as a child...

    As I stayed with my host family I wished I could just swap our lives...the lack of tension about someone controlling your fate...your job...even the roof over your head...was simply a revelation...

    I remember thinking I would gladly give up our much bigger house...two cars etc... just for the quality of life of these people...the peace of mind...the relaxed atmosphere in the home...

    My host family took me on a 10 day vacation and I got to see the whole country...it was carefree like that everywhere...people didn't seem to have any qualms whatsoever about their boss or any such thing...

    I noticed that people didn't act the same as back home...they didn't show that peculiar Western stress that we all live with...

    The social life was another revelation...being at that age dating was a primary driver in life...the relaxed mindset of the girls was incredibly refreshing and attractive to me...

    So in all fairness to your comment, I have to wonder about the actual circumstances of your visit...it certainly does not begin to describe the completely different and relaxed world that I discovered...

    ” The father was an engineer and the mother veterinary doctor”

    So you were, without your awareness, and for propaganda purposes, quartered into a situation with an “elite” family who were afforded the benefits which were only accessible to individuals of their “academic” class, and you have absolutely no clue as to the actual sordid living conditions of the 90% which were not “studied” benefit recipients, such as in working-class areas where the electricity was shut off after 10 PM.

    “Complete freedom from worry about finances and job security”:
    Great and if you tried to leave the country, which was nothing but a huge prison, without permission, you would be gunned down at the border.

    “The lack of tension about someone controlling your fate” :
    This is beyond a doubt the craziest, most absurd remark I have ever encountered regarding the conditions in a communist country, as your “total” fate was determined by the state, period.

    Your post is so full of naive bullshit, and distortions, that I simply do not have the gumption or energy to counter each individual rediculous statement

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.

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    “The lack of tension about someone controlling your fate” :
    This is beyond a doubt the craziest, most absurd remark I have ever encountered regarding the conditions in a communist country, as your “total” fate was determined by the state, period.
     
    The absence of tension about one's fate being totally controlled is how life must appear in all stable societies, the lack of tension reflecting adaptation of the individual to the system of social control.

    In the West, and in Russia until the 20th Century, Christianity played a central role in that system of social control. Because most citizens were believers, awareness of being controlled was minimal. In the Soviet Union the Christian church was replace by political correctness as the controlling mechanism. Today, in the West, the same transition from Christianity to the religion of PC is far advanced. Political correctness is not only preached, but strictly enforced, in school, the workplace, the media, and in entertainment. We, in the West, are thus no more free than the citizens of the Soviet Union.

    As for the

    actual sordid living conditions of the 90%
     
    of the workers of the SU, with their vodka, their hope, perhaps, of someday owning a Lada, and their tiny apartments, was that really so much worse than the "actual sordid living conditions of the 90%" in the West today, with their gambling addictions, there porn addictions, their debt addictions, their FaceBook addictions, their junk food addictions, and their failure to achieve a replacement rate of fertility?
    , @FB
    Since when are engineers and vets part of the 'elite'...?

    That's called middle class...and is similar to my own family background...so the comparison is very much apples to apples...

    '...“The lack of tension about someone controlling your fate” :

    This is beyond a doubt the craziest, most absurd remark I have ever encountered regarding the conditions in a communist country, as your “total” fate was determined by the state, period...'
     
    Well that is simply caricature from those who actually do not have first-hand experience with Eastern Bloc socialism...

    Here is what I experienced growing up...my father was a handshake type of guy and ended up one time getting fleeced by a carpetbagger whom he naively trusted with a major financial decision...it almost ruined us and even put our home in jeopardy...

    It was such a stressful time that it was hard to take for everyone in the household...

    There were other episodes concerning intrigues at either of my parents workplaces etc...which similarly raised stress levels at home...

    These types of things I found were not a factor in Eastern society...the months I spent there it was obvious that nobody was concerned in the least about things like debt [didn't exist...you had your apartment which no one could kick you out of]...or job security...

    Nobody was worried about losing their job...that just didn't even enter into it...

    My host family was totally apolitical...as were most of the people I got to know...they were not members of the communist party...that was for those who wanted to get ahead and social climb...yes you had that there too...only in a different guise...

    But these kinds of people were a small minority...and nobody really liked them as they were seen as grasping and untrustworthy...

    '...Great and if you tried to leave the country, which was nothing but a huge prison, without permission, you would be gunned down at the border...'
     
    More cartoonish stereotyping...

    You need permission to travel to any country that requires a visa do you not...?

    The family I stayed with the father traveled abroad all the time as part of his job...which involved lots of projects in various countries...

    As for getting gunned down...well try strolling into a secure military area in the US and see what happens...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ17iUfL-Gc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Nc9SWED00

    You have innocent people at airports getting tased to death just for yapping off...for chrissakes...youtube is chock full of horror videos of our Gestapo police that would make the Stasi blush...

    As for the Berlin Wall...there is lots of info available that does not exactly jibe with the koolaid...try Reading William Blum...someone who actually knows the facts firsthand...

    '...before the wall went up in 1961 thousands of East Germans had been commuting to the West for jobs each day and then returning to the East in the evening; many others went back and forth for shopping or other reasons. So they were clearly not being held in the East against their will...'
     
    The other reason was security against sabotage from rabid US and CIA Cold Warriors...

    '...The United States and its agents used explosives, arson, short circuiting, and other methods to damage power stations, shipyards, canals, docks, public buildings, gas stations, public transportation, bridges, etc; they derailed freight trains, seriously injuring workers;

    burned 12 cars of a freight train and destroyed air pressure hoses of others; used acids to damage vital factory machinery;

    put sand in the turbine of a factory, bringing it to a standstill;

    set fire to a tile-producing factory; promoted work slow-downs in factories;

    killed 7,000 cows of a co-operative dairy through poisoning; added soap to powdered milk destined for East German schools;

    were in possession, when arrested, of a large quantity of the poison cantharidin with which it was planned to produce poisoned cigarettes to kill leading East Germans;… all this and much more...'
     
    We only ever heard one side of the story in our capitalist paradise...
    , @Philip Owen
    My experience of Russia even now is that the scholars in the Gymnasium are happy with their prospects. It's the Bad Boys in the Yard who want to go to America. ( The scholars prefer Europe if they want to leave).
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  184. FB says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Yes, the missiles flew through Lebanon airspace and were all shot down.
     
    Can you give us a source for that?

    RT is reporting that two Israeli F15s launched a total of eight missiles from Lebanese airspace…five of the missiles were intercepted…

    ‘…In a statement on Monday, the Russian military said: “Two Israeli Air Force F-15 jets fired eight guided missiles at the T-4 airfield.”

    The Israeli aircraft did not enter Syrian airspace and launched the strikes while flying over Lebanon..

    .’

    ‘…Syrian air defense units have shot down five guided missiles,” the military said, but confirmed that three of the missiles “reached the western part of the airfield.”..’

    Sputnik is reporting the same…

    Southfront has pictures from the Tiyas airfield [T4] showing no visible damage…

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  185. FB says:
    @FB
    RT is reporting that two Israeli F15s launched a total of eight missiles from Lebanese airspace...five of the missiles were intercepted...

    '...In a statement on Monday, the Russian military said: “Two Israeli Air Force F-15 jets fired eight guided missiles at the T-4 airfield.”

    The Israeli aircraft did not enter Syrian airspace and launched the strikes while flying over Lebanon..
     
    .'

    '...Syrian air defense units have shot down five guided missiles,” the military said, but confirmed that three of the missiles “reached the western part of the airfield.”..'
     
    Sputnik is reporting the same...

    Southfront has pictures from the Tiyas airfield [T4] showing no visible damage...

    No word yet on what air defense system was used to bring down the Israeli missiles…but possibly Pantsir…as Tiyas is a major Syrian airfield…with a concrete runway and hardened aircraft shelters…and hosting Syrian MiG 25s…their most deadly aircraft…

    Would be interesting to see some of these Mach 3 capable interceptors in action…

    The Iranians are located on the west side of the field…which is what the Israeli missiles were apparently targeting…

    Israel attacked Tiyas immediately in retaliation for the downed F16 in January…but again caused no damage…in contradiction to Israeli claims…

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  186. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    If the globalists win everything will change in ways you can’t even imagine.
     
    Actually, Huxley's contented "Brave New World" still looks plausible: everyone IQ-graded, brainwashed, and in a chemically-controlled good mood, happy in the service of the owners of the World.

    they’ll cull the goyim to a fraction of their size.
     
    It has occurred to me that the invasion of Europe and North America by people from everywhere may be in fulfillment of a of Noah's ark strategy, and that at some point a great plague will sweep the poorer places in the world (without public health systems able to cope with massive epidemics), reducing the world's total population to somewhere near what the globalists think optimal (i.e., to serve the needs of the globalist elite), no more, surely, than five or ten percent of the present population, but probably more than the twenty thousand or so that Isaac Asimov envisaged.

    everyone IQ-graded, brainwashed, and in a chemically-controlled good mood, happy in the service of the owners of the World.

    We’re already half-way there, except that the goyim are getting IQ-downgraded.

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  187. @CanSpeccy

    Yes, the missiles flew through Lebanon airspace and were all shot down.
     
    Can you give us a source for that?
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    It’s surprising that Israel decided to act, rather than let the US do it and take the brunt of retaliation. Putin was avoiding doing anything about Israel for quite a while. Looks like now he will be forced to respond.
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  188. @AnonFromTN
    Sorry, I am on CT.
    The US keeps denying its involvement
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/08/middleeast/syria-missile-strike-intl/index.html
    It appears that Israel was the culprit
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43694588
    Five out of eight missiles were intercepted
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/russia-outs-israel-two-israeli-fighter-jets-struck-iranian-base-in-syria-1.5979943

    It’s surprising that Israel decided to act, rather than let the US do it and take the brunt of retaliation. Putin was avoiding doing anything about Israel for quite a while. Looks like now he will be forced to respond.

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    { Putin was avoiding doing anything about Israel for quite a while. Looks like now he will be forced to respond.}

    No he won't.

    All these provocations, including the alleged chemical attack no doubt organized by the same people, are desperation moves. Putin, and Assad, and Hezbollah, and IRG,.... have one goal and that is to completely clear out all the terrorist scum from Syria. The Evil Empire tries everything, and will keep trying, to distract The Good Guys and get them sucked into peripheral fights that have nothing to do with the ultimate goal. To get them to take resources from the main fight, and expend it uselessly on side issues.

    Clear out Syria of _all_ the foreign infestation, build the country back up, replenish battle-hardened but badly depleted SAA, and all these provocations will be dealt with a strong Syria in due course.
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  189. FB says:
    @CanSpeccy

    I hope the US Navy is not stupid enough to follow this scenario. Sinking of any US ship would leave Trump (and those behind the US façade) with egg on his face.
     
    I'm sure they have some plausible schemes in mind: perhaps launching Tomahawks from submarines, which the Russians would find difficult to sink (the submarines, that is) with missiles, although they might be taken out by Russian submarines.

    Alternatively, the US may challenge Russia in Syria's air space, one reason being to force Russia to uses its S400 air defense system, thereby giving the US a good idea of its capability and some ideas, perhaps, on how to defeat it.

    Where Trump stands is difficult to be sure. Is he seeking to destroy Russia, or is he allowing the war hawks some rope with which they may hang themselves? Trump has used the term "globalist" as a pejorative, but that may be merelyy for the ears of his base.

    If Trump is committed to America's final push for world domination, all Hell is about to break out. If, however, the latest fake gas incident in Syria fails to dislodge Assad and his Russian allies, we might perhaps see the US begin to acknowledge its status as a normal nation, with an interest in maintaining the rights of nation states in what has been termed a Westphalian system.

    The weakness of a system of nation states is that groups of states can gang up together to mug someone, e.g., the Triple Entente of 1914 against Germany, or NATO versus Russia today. A stable nation-state system would need therefore to outlaw national combinations, even if nominally defensive. Stability would be further enhanced by outlawing offensive weapons systems while promoting defensive systems.

    If the UK were half-intelligently led, it would lead the way, shedding its alliances, sinking its stupid aircraft carriers, and developing scary defensive weapons, while at the same time seeking to be friend-of-all-the-world (i.e., all the world in their own country, not in Britain where, due to the criminal insanity of the British elite, all the world has been encouraged to migrate).

    ‘…perhaps launching Tomahawks from submarines, which the Russians would find difficult to sink (the submarines, that is) with missiles, although they might be taken out by Russian submarines…’

    Yes launching T-hawks from subs would be safer than launching from surface ships…which would be in real danger from Russian strikes with Tu22M supersonic bombers carrying Kh22/32 ship killer missiles…

    Agree also that those subs would be in some danger from Russian subs in the area…but they would have a much better chance of survival by far compared to surface ships…

    Any surface ship launching T-hawks would be in a difficult situation if the Russians decided to pull the trigger…

    The Tupolev Tu22M is a supersonic medium-bomber that has been the mainstay anti-ship weapon platform for decades…

    It is a substantial bomber that has no analog in the West…124 ton max takeoff weight…Mach 1.9 speed…

    Its ship killer missiles are beasts…it carries three six-ton Kh22/32 missiles which have a range of 600 to 1,000 km and top speed of M4.6 to M5…

    ‘…Soviet tests revealed that when a shaped charge warhead weighing 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) was used in the missile, the resulting hole measured 5 m (16 ft) in diameter (19.63 m2 (211.3 sq ft)), and was 12 m (40 ft) deep.

    …a Kh-22MA equipped with 1,000 kg (2,205 lb) RDX warhead and with an approach speed of 800 m/s (Mach 2.4), used against an aircraft carrier, will make a 22 m2 (240 sq ft) hole, and the warhead’s cumulative jet will burn through internal ship compartments up to a depth of 12 m…’

    Those three Khs are carried underwing and in a conformal fuselage mount…

    With their standoff range of up to 1,000 km…combined with their high speed and maneuvering approach…it is likely that the USN is not going to call the Russians out on their threat to target cruise missile ‘launchers’ in the event of an attack on Syria…

    The Tu22M also has an internal six-round rotary missile launcher that carries six Kh15s…

    This ship killer has a much shorter standoff range…but still 300 km…it flies at Mach 5…and has a deadly maneuvering approach…


    The Kh15 can also be carried by fighter size aircraft like the Su34…

    During the Cold War Russia invited a ‘friendly’ visit by the USN Pacific Fleet Commander in Chief to try the cockpit on for size…the look on Adm Chalres Larson face tells the story…

    ‘…Alternatively, the US may challenge Russia in Syria’s air space, one reason being to force Russia to uses its S400 air defense system, thereby giving the US a good idea of its capability and some ideas, perhaps, on how to defeat it…’

    This is far less likely…

    It’s not just the S400 but the complete integrated air defense system…which includes the A50U airborne early warning aircraft…

    Unlike ground based radars that accompany the S400 and which incoming aircraft can hide from by flying low and using terrain to hide in the radar shadows…there is no way to hide from the AEW…

    The AEW along with the mobile ground radars can also direct Russian fighters to intercept any incoming aircraft…

    It would be suicide…the only way to realistically tackle such an A2/AD zone is with a massive SEAD operation involving radar jamming aircraft like the FA18 Growler and fighters carrying radar-targeting missiles [HARMs]…

    This kind of operation would require a prolonged buildup that would be detected well in advance…most expert opinion is that current US NATO SEAD capabilities are not a match for Russian A2/AD…

    ‘…“We have the tools, but we do not have nearly enough of them—and the speed that we would need to eliminate these A2/AD bubbles—to be able to deploy our forces is going to be controlled by the depth of the bench of how we can attack those A2/AD forces,” retired U.S Air Force Gen. Philip Breedlove, former commander of U.S. European Command told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies on June 29.

    “Right now, we’re almost completely dependent on air forces and aviation assets in order to attack the A2/AD problem.”

    But air power might not be enough.

    Breedlove suggests that U.S. ground forces should play a role in taking on the Russian A2/AD threat. “We need more long-range, survivable, precision strike capability from the ground,” Breedlove said.

    “We need dense capability—like the dense A2/AD networks that we face.”..’

    This is not really news to practitioners in the air combat game…I have commented in detail about the physical realities of aircraft versus mobile air defenses…and the important factors that come into play…such as the size and power of radars carried on large trucks…vs much smaller and less powerful radars [and jammers] carried aloft on small fighter jets…

    Its a physical mismatch…same thing with missile range…the HARMs carried by fighters have a fraction of the range of the much bigger and more poweful missiles carried by the S400 trucks…

    Basic rule here…if it flies it has to be small and light…that’s the physical constraint…and is why Breedlove is talking about a ground-based future approach to tackling the A2/Ad problem…

    The simple conclusion is that even a major SEAD operation against Russian air defenses in Syria would be fraught with difficulty…and would likely result in a defeat…I have discussed the technical aspects of this at some length in previous comments…

    So it is difficult to imagine how a small scale probing attack using only a few aircraft would be considered by anybody…

    I would say Dump’s threats are pure bluff and bluster…just like the ‘Fire and Fury’ directed at Little Kim…

    But you never know…certainly some kind of US-Russia shootout in Syria would be quite interesting to see…kind of like a long-anticipated heavyweight showdown…you never know what will happen…the tale of the tape only counts on paper…

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    I neglected to mention another possible launch platform for US cruise missiles and that is air-launched...

    Here the US can employ two types of air launched cruise missile...the AGM86 has been in use for many years and is carried by the B52 heavy bomber...which carries up to 20 per airplane...

    This is basically an air-launched T-hawk...with the same engine and guidance system...but shorter range of about 1,100 km...

    The newer AGM158 Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile [JASSM]...is smaller but has shorter range...

    The JASSM employs a similar turbojet engine and sophisticated navigation system and has a range of 370 km to 1,000 km for the JASSM ER [extended range]...

    These can be carried by many types of aircraft including one each on fighters like the F15 and F16 as well as the Navy FA18...

    However...it is important to note here that the extended range version only recently entered service and has not yet been integrated on all platforms...

    This is significant because the 1,000 km range ER could be launched well outside of Russian air defenses with their reach of about 400 km...

    Right now the B1B heavy bomber and the B2 stealth bomber are the only large platform that carries the ER right now...The B1B can carry up to 24 while the B2 can carry 16...

    The B52 will be able to carry 20...but that integration is still under way...

    If the US does decide to hit Syria with a cruise missile strike...this might be the safest way to go...there is really no way for these bombers to be reached by Russian defenses from 1000 km away...it would probably come by way of the AGM86...five B52s could launch 100 missiles...

    Another interesting note here on the Israeli missile strike...reports now that at least 12 Iranian troops were killed and a substantial amount of their equipment...

    Also some intriguing but unconfirmed reports from local sources that an electronic warfare attack accompanied the missile strike...and this is perhaps why the three of eight missiles got through...

    This is a possibility since we would expect the Pantsir to have a higher kill percentage than 60...if indeed it was the Pantsir...

    It had also been reported by locals that some type of 'aircraft' had been overhead at the time of the strike...

    This may have been a cruise missile designed to disable air defense electronics by means of high power microwave bursts...

    The US has been working on such a weapon although it is thought to still be in the experimental stage...

    The Counter-electronics High Power Microwave Advanced Missile Project...or CHAMP...is said to be packaged in the AGM86 airframe...

    Certainly if something like this was used here to disrupt the Tiyas air defenses it would mark a very interesting turn...

    However...it should be noted that it takes a lot of electrical power to create electro-magnetic pulses strong enough to fry electronic circuits...especially shielded and hardened electronics one would see in military grade equipment...

    How that power would be generated from a very small turbine engine powering this cruise missile is difficult to imagine...

    The Russian Krasukha truck-based EW system is designed to perform a similar task but carries a huge diesel generator and a very large antenna...this is not possible on a small flight vehicle like a cruise missile...
    , @Erebus
    Interestingly, Breedlove's comments illustrate how Russia's development of sophisticated A2/AD systems has inverted attack planning. Using ground attacks to establish air superiority to allow boots-on-the-ground to enter the battle zone sure complicates matters. Given Russian superiority in artillery and ground attack missiles, one doesn't need to wonder why NATO is reduced to making symbolic gestures.
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  190. “I would say Dump’s threats are pure bluff and bluster…just like the ‘Fire and Fury’ directed at Little Kim…”

    I hope you are right and Trump (or at least his handlers – he rules only his Twitter account) is smart enough. However, I am no longer certain. The behavior of the US and its vassals is beyond insane lately.

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  192. Avery says:
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    It’s surprising that Israel decided to act, rather than let the US do it and take the brunt of retaliation. Putin was avoiding doing anything about Israel for quite a while. Looks like now he will be forced to respond.

    { Putin was avoiding doing anything about Israel for quite a while. Looks like now he will be forced to respond.}

    No he won’t.

    All these provocations, including the alleged chemical attack no doubt organized by the same people, are desperation moves. Putin, and Assad, and Hezbollah, and IRG,…. have one goal and that is to completely clear out all the terrorist scum from Syria. The Evil Empire tries everything, and will keep trying, to distract The Good Guys and get them sucked into peripheral fights that have nothing to do with the ultimate goal. To get them to take resources from the main fight, and expend it uselessly on side issues.

    Clear out Syria of _all_ the foreign infestation, build the country back up, replenish battle-hardened but badly depleted SAA, and all these provocations will be dealt with a strong Syria in due course.

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    Well, part of getting all foreign invaders off Syrian soil includes retaking Golan Heights from Israel. That’s what Israel was afraid of to begin with, that’s why Israel was a staunch supporter of the Islamist head-choppers in Syria: to split the country into impotent Bantustans that would not pose a threat to Israeli aggressors. So, sooner or later, the clash between Syria and Israel is inevitable. But you may be right, Assad might clear the rest of Syria first, and only then fulfill the resolution of the UN SC regarding the Golan Heights.
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  193. @Avery
    { Putin was avoiding doing anything about Israel for quite a while. Looks like now he will be forced to respond.}

    No he won't.

    All these provocations, including the alleged chemical attack no doubt organized by the same people, are desperation moves. Putin, and Assad, and Hezbollah, and IRG,.... have one goal and that is to completely clear out all the terrorist scum from Syria. The Evil Empire tries everything, and will keep trying, to distract The Good Guys and get them sucked into peripheral fights that have nothing to do with the ultimate goal. To get them to take resources from the main fight, and expend it uselessly on side issues.

    Clear out Syria of _all_ the foreign infestation, build the country back up, replenish battle-hardened but badly depleted SAA, and all these provocations will be dealt with a strong Syria in due course.

    Well, part of getting all foreign invaders off Syrian soil includes retaking Golan Heights from Israel. That’s what Israel was afraid of to begin with, that’s why Israel was a staunch supporter of the Islamist head-choppers in Syria: to split the country into impotent Bantustans that would not pose a threat to Israeli aggressors. So, sooner or later, the clash between Syria and Israel is inevitable. But you may be right, Assad might clear the rest of Syria first, and only then fulfill the resolution of the UN SC regarding the Golan Heights.

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  194. FB says:
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    '...perhaps launching Tomahawks from submarines, which the Russians would find difficult to sink (the submarines, that is) with missiles, although they might be taken out by Russian submarines...'
     
    Yes launching T-hawks from subs would be safer than launching from surface ships...which would be in real danger from Russian strikes with Tu22M supersonic bombers carrying Kh22/32 ship killer missiles...

    Agree also that those subs would be in some danger from Russian subs in the area...but they would have a much better chance of survival by far compared to surface ships...

    Any surface ship launching T-hawks would be in a difficult situation if the Russians decided to pull the trigger...

    The Tupolev Tu22M is a supersonic medium-bomber that has been the mainstay anti-ship weapon platform for decades...

    It is a substantial bomber that has no analog in the West...124 ton max takeoff weight...Mach 1.9 speed...

    Its ship killer missiles are beasts...it carries three six-ton Kh22/32 missiles which have a range of 600 to 1,000 km and top speed of M4.6 to M5...


    '...Soviet tests revealed that when a shaped charge warhead weighing 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) was used in the missile, the resulting hole measured 5 m (16 ft) in diameter (19.63 m2 (211.3 sq ft)), and was 12 m (40 ft) deep.

    ...a Kh-22MA equipped with 1,000 kg (2,205 lb) RDX warhead and with an approach speed of 800 m/s (Mach 2.4), used against an aircraft carrier, will make a 22 m2 (240 sq ft) hole, and the warhead's cumulative jet will burn through internal ship compartments up to a depth of 12 m...'
     

    Those three Khs are carried underwing and in a conformal fuselage mount...

    With their standoff range of up to 1,000 km...combined with their high speed and maneuvering approach...it is likely that the USN is not going to call the Russians out on their threat to target cruise missile 'launchers' in the event of an attack on Syria...

    The Tu22M also has an internal six-round rotary missile launcher that carries six Kh15s...

    This ship killer has a much shorter standoff range...but still 300 km...it flies at Mach 5...and has a deadly maneuvering approach...


    https://s20.postimg.org/ns413u7p9/Kh-15-_Kickback-_CONOPS-1_S.jpg

    The Kh15 can also be carried by fighter size aircraft like the Su34...

    During the Cold War Russia invited a 'friendly' visit by the USN Pacific Fleet Commander in Chief to try the cockpit on for size...the look on Adm Chalres Larson face tells the story...


    http://ausairpower.net/V-MF/Backfire-Cockpit-DN-SC-91-02246-1S.jpg


    '...Alternatively, the US may challenge Russia in Syria’s air space, one reason being to force Russia to uses its S400 air defense system, thereby giving the US a good idea of its capability and some ideas, perhaps, on how to defeat it...'
     
    This is far less likely...

    It's not just the S400 but the complete integrated air defense system...which includes the A50U airborne early warning aircraft...


    https://s20.postimg.org/uz14lxixp/-76-78-_-50_0083483499_-.jpg


    Unlike ground based radars that accompany the S400 and which incoming aircraft can hide from by flying low and using terrain to hide in the radar shadows...there is no way to hide from the AEW...

    The AEW along with the mobile ground radars can also direct Russian fighters to intercept any incoming aircraft...

    It would be suicide...the only way to realistically tackle such an A2/AD zone is with a massive SEAD operation involving radar jamming aircraft like the FA18 Growler and fighters carrying radar-targeting missiles [HARMs]...

    This kind of operation would require a prolonged buildup that would be detected well in advance...most expert opinion is that current US NATO SEAD capabilities are not a match for Russian A2/AD...


    '...“We have the tools, but we do not have nearly enough of them—and the speed that we would need to eliminate these A2/AD bubbles—to be able to deploy our forces is going to be controlled by the depth of the bench of how we can attack those A2/AD forces,” retired U.S Air Force Gen. Philip Breedlove, former commander of U.S. European Command told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies on June 29.

    “Right now, we’re almost completely dependent on air forces and aviation assets in order to attack the A2/AD problem.”

    But air power might not be enough.

    Breedlove suggests that U.S. ground forces should play a role in taking on the Russian A2/AD threat. “We need more long-range, survivable, precision strike capability from the ground,” Breedlove said.

    “We need dense capability—like the dense A2/AD networks that we face.”..'
     

    This is not really news to practitioners in the air combat game...I have commented in detail about the physical realities of aircraft versus mobile air defenses...and the important factors that come into play...such as the size and power of radars carried on large trucks...vs much smaller and less powerful radars [and jammers] carried aloft on small fighter jets...

    Its a physical mismatch...same thing with missile range...the HARMs carried by fighters have a fraction of the range of the much bigger and more poweful missiles carried by the S400 trucks...

    Basic rule here...if it flies it has to be small and light...that's the physical constraint...and is why Breedlove is talking about a ground-based future approach to tackling the A2/Ad problem...

    The simple conclusion is that even a major SEAD operation against Russian air defenses in Syria would be fraught with difficulty...and would likely result in a defeat...I have discussed the technical aspects of this at some length in previous comments...

    So it is difficult to imagine how a small scale probing attack using only a few aircraft would be considered by anybody...

    I would say Dump's threats are pure bluff and bluster...just like the 'Fire and Fury' directed at Little Kim...

    But you never know...certainly some kind of US-Russia shootout in Syria would be quite interesting to see...kind of like a long-anticipated heavyweight showdown...you never know what will happen...the tale of the tape only counts on paper...

    I neglected to mention another possible launch platform for US cruise missiles and that is air-launched…

    Here the US can employ two types of air launched cruise missile…the AGM86 has been in use for many years and is carried by the B52 heavy bomber…which carries up to 20 per airplane…

    This is basically an air-launched T-hawk…with the same engine and guidance system…but shorter range of about 1,100 km…

    The newer AGM158 Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile [JASSM]…is smaller but has shorter range…

    The JASSM employs a similar turbojet engine and sophisticated navigation system and has a range of 370 km to 1,000 km for the JASSM ER [extended range]…

    These can be carried by many types of aircraft including one each on fighters like the F15 and F16 as well as the Navy FA18…

    However…it is important to note here that the extended range version only recently entered service and has not yet been integrated on all platforms…

    This is significant because the 1,000 km range ER could be launched well outside of Russian air defenses with their reach of about 400 km…

    Right now the B1B heavy bomber and the B2 stealth bomber are the only large platform that carries the ER right now…The B1B can carry up to 24 while the B2 can carry 16…

    The B52 will be able to carry 20…but that integration is still under way…

    If the US does decide to hit Syria with a cruise missile strike…this might be the safest way to go…there is really no way for these bombers to be reached by Russian defenses from 1000 km away…it would probably come by way of the AGM86…five B52s could launch 100 missiles…

    Another interesting note here on the Israeli missile strike…reports now that at least 12 Iranian troops were killed and a substantial amount of their equipment…

    Also some intriguing but unconfirmed reports from local sources that an electronic warfare attack accompanied the missile strike…and this is perhaps why the three of eight missiles got through…

    This is a possibility since we would expect the Pantsir to have a higher kill percentage than 60…if indeed it was the Pantsir…

    It had also been reported by locals that some type of ‘aircraft’ had been overhead at the time of the strike…

    This may have been a cruise missile designed to disable air defense electronics by means of high power microwave bursts…

    The US has been working on such a weapon although it is thought to still be in the experimental stage…

    The Counter-electronics High Power Microwave Advanced Missile Project…or CHAMP…is said to be packaged in the AGM86 airframe…

    Certainly if something like this was used here to disrupt the Tiyas air defenses it would mark a very interesting turn…

    However…it should be noted that it takes a lot of electrical power to create electro-magnetic pulses strong enough to fry electronic circuits…especially shielded and hardened electronics one would see in military grade equipment…

    How that power would be generated from a very small turbine engine powering this cruise missile is difficult to imagine…

    The Russian Krasukha truck-based EW system is designed to perform a similar task but carries a huge diesel generator and a very large antenna…this is not possible on a small flight vehicle like a cruise missile…

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