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Introduction: In 2012 President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Defense Secretary Ashton Carter launched a new chapter in their quest for global dominance: a realignment of policies designed to shift priorities from the Middle East to Asia.

Dubbed the ‘Pivot to Asia’, it suggested that the US would concentrate its economic, military and diplomatic resources toward strengthening its dominant position and undercutting China’s rising influence in the region.

The ‘pivot to Asia’ did not shift existing resources from the Middle East, it added military commitments to the region, while provoking more conflicts with Russia and China.

The “pivot to Asia” meant that the US was extending and deepening its regional military alliances in order to confront and encircle Russia and China. The goal would be to cripple their economies and foster social unrest leading to political instability and regime change.

The US onslaught for greater empire depended on the cooperation of proxies and allies to accomplish its strategic goals.

The so-called ‘pivot to Asia’ had a two-pronged approach, based on an economic trading pact and various military treaty agreements. The entire US strategy of retaining global supremacy depended on securing and enhancing its control over its regional allies and proxies. Failure of the Obama regime to retain Washington’s vassal states would accelerate its decline and encourage more desperate political maneuvers.

Strategic Military Posturing

Without a doubt, every military decision and action made by the Obama Administration with regard to the Asia-Pacific Region has had only one purpose – to weaken China’s defense capabilities, undermine its economy and force Beijing to submit to Washington’s domination.

In pursuit of military supremacy, Washington has installed an advanced missile system in South Korea, increased its air and maritime armada and expanded its provocative activities along China’s coastline and its vital maritime trade routes. Washington has embarked on a military base expansion campaign in Australia, Japan and the Philippines.

This explains why Washington pressured its client regime in Manila under the former President ‘Nonoy’ Aquino, Jr., to bring its territorial dispute with China over the Spratly Islands before a relatively obscure tribunal in Holland. The European ruling, unsurprisingly in favor of Manila, would provide the US with a ‘legal’ cover for its planned aggression against China in the South China Sea. The Spratly and Paracel Islands are mostly barren coral islands and shoals located within the world’s busiest shipping trade routes, explaining China’s (both Beijing and Taipei) refusal to recognize the ‘Court of Special Arbitration’.

Strategic Economic Intervention: The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)

The US authored and promoted Trans-Pacific Partnership (TTP) is a trade and investment agreement covering 12 Pacific countries designed to ensure US regional dominance while deliberately cutting out China. The TPP was to be the linchpin of US efforts to promote profits for overseas US multi-nationals by undercutting the rules for domestic producers, labor laws for workers and environmental regulations for consumers. As a result of its unpopular domestic provisions, which had alienated US workers and consumers, the electorate forced both Presidential candidates to withdraw their support for the TPP – what one scribbler for the Financial Times denounced as “the dangers of popular democracy”. The Washington empire builders envisioned the TPP as a tool for dictating and enforcing their ‘rules’ on a captive Asia-Pacific trading system. From the perspective of US big business, the TPP was the instrument of choice for retaining supremacy in Asia by excluding China.

The Eclipse of Washington’s “Asian Century”

For over seventy years the US has dominated Asia, ravaging the continent with two major wars in Korea and Indo-China with millions of casualties, and multiple counter-insurgency interventions in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Timor, Myanmar, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The strategic goal has been to expand its military and political power, exploit the economies and resources and encircle China and North Korea.

Under the Obama-Clinton-Kerry Regime, the imperial structures in Asia are coming apart.

Washington’s anti-China TPP is collapsing and has been replaced by the Chinese sponsored Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) with over fifty member countries worldwide, including the ten nations of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASAEN), plus Australia, India, South Korea and New Zealand. Of course, China is funding most of the partnership and, to no one’s surprise, Washington has not been invited to join…

As a result of the highly favorable terms in the RCEP, each and every current and former US ally and colony has been signing on, shifting trade allegiances to China, and effectively changing the configuration of power.

Already Cambodia, Laos, Thailand and Indonesia have formalized growing economic ties with China. The debacle of the TPP has just accelerated the shift toward China’s new trade pact (RCEP). The US is left to rely on its ‘loyalist four’, a stagnant Japan, Australia, South Korea and its impoverished former colony, Philippines, to bolster its quest to militarily encircle China.

The Dangers of ‘Popular Democracy’: President Duterte’s Pivot to China and the End of US Supremacy in SE Asia

For over a century (since the invasion of the Philippines in 1896), especially since the end of WWII, when the US asserted its primacy in Asia, Washington has used the strategic Philippine Archipelago as a trampoline for controlling Southeast Asia. Control of the Philippines is fundamental to US Imperialism: Washington’s strategic superiority depends on its access to sea, air, communications and ground bases and operations located in the Philippines and a compliant Philippine ruling class..

The centerpiece of US strategy to encircle and tighten control over China’s maritime routes to and from the world-economy is the massive build-up of US military installations in the Philippines.

The US self-styled “pivot to Asia” involves locating five military bases directed at dominating the South China Sea. The Pentagon expanded its access to four strategic air and one military base through the ‘Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement’ signed by the Philippine President Aquino in 2014 but held up by the Philippine Courts until April 2016. These include:

(1) Antonio Bautista Airbase on the island of Palawan, located near the contested Spratly Islands in the South China Sea.

(2) Basa Airbase 40 miles northwest of the Philippines capital of Manila, overlooking the South China Sea.

(3) Lumbia Airbase located in the port of Cagayan de Oro, Mindanao, a huge US facility under construction.

(4) Mactan – Benito Ebuen airbase located on Mactan Island off the coast of Cebu in the central Philippines.

(5) Fort Magsaysay located in Nueva Ecija, on Luzon, the Philippine Army’s Central Training and command center, its largest military installation which will serve the US as the training and indoctrination base for the Philippine army.

Pentagon planners had envisioned targeting Chinese shipping and air bases in the South China Sea from its new bases on western shores of the Philippines. This essentially threatens the stability of the entire region, especially the vital Chinese trade routes to the global economy.

Washington has been intensifying its intervention in the South China Sea relying on decrees issued by its previous proxy President Benigno (Noynoy) Aquino, III (2010-2016). These, however, were not ratified by the Congress and had been challenged by the Philippine Supreme Court.

ORDER IT NOW

Washington’s entire “pivot to Asia” has centered its vast military build-up on its access to the Philippines. This access is now at risk. Newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte, who succeeded Aquino in June 2016, is pursuing an independent foreign policy, with the aim of transforming the impoverished Philippines from a subservient US military colony to opening large-scale, long-term economic trade and development ties with China and other regional economic powers. Duterte has openly challenged the US policy of using the Philippines to encircle and provoke China.

The Philippine “pivot to China” quickly advanced from colorful rhetoric to a major trade and investment meeting of President Duterte and a huge delegation of Philippine business leaders with his Chinese counterparts in Beijing in late October 2016. During his first 3 months in office Duterte blasted Washington for meddling in his ongoing campaign against drug lords and dealers. Obama’s so-called ‘concerns for human rights’ in the anti-drug campaign were answered with counter-charges that the US had accommodated notorious narco-politician-oligarchs to further its military base expansion program. President Duterte’s war on drugs expanded well beyond the alleged US narco-elite alliance when he proposed two strategic changes: (1) he promised to end the US-Philippine sea patrols of disputed waters designed to provoke Beijing in the South China Sea; and (2) President Duterte announced he would end military exercises with Washington, especially in Mindanao, because they threatened China and undermined Philippine sovereignty.

President Duterte, in pursuit of his independent nationalist-agenda, has moved rapidly and decisively to strengthen the Philippines ‘pivot’ toward China, which in the context of Southeast Asia is really ‘normalizing’ trade and investment relations with his giant neighbor. During the third week of October (2016) President Duterte, his political team and 250 business leaders met with China’s leaders to discuss multi-billion-dollar investment projects and trade agreements, as well as closer diplomatic relations. The initial results, which promise to expand even more, are over $13 billion dollars in trade and critical infrastructure projects. As the Philippine’s pivot to China advances, the quid pro quo will lead to a profound change in the politics and militarization of Southeast Asian. Without total US control over the Philippines, Washington’s strategic arc of encirclement against China is broken.

According to a recent ruling by the Philippine Supreme Court, the controversial US military base agreement (Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement) imposed by the former President Aquino by fiat without congressional ratification can be terminated by the new President by executive order. This ruling punches some major holes in what the Pentagon had considered its ‘ironclad’ stranglehold on the strategic Philippine bases.

The Duterte government has repeatedly announced its administration’s commitment to a program of economic modernization and social reconstruction for Philippine society. That agenda can only be advanced through changes that include multi-billion dollar infrastructure investments, loans and technical cooperation from China, whereas remaining a backward US military colony will not only threaten their Asian economic partners, but will condemn the Philippines to yet another generation of stagnation and corruption. Unique in Southeast Asia, the Philippines has long been mired in underdevelopment, forcing half of its qualified workforce to seek contract servitude abroad, while at home the society has become victims of drug and human trafficking gangs linked to the oligarchs.

Conclusion

Washington’s ‘pivot to Asia’, enshrined in its effort to corral the Asian countries into its anti-China crusade is not going as the Obama-Clinton-Kerry team had envisioned. It is proving to be a major foreign policy debacle for the outgoing and (presumably) incoming US presidential administrations. Democratic Party candidate Hillary Clinton has been forced to denounce the Transpacific Trade Partnership (TPP), one of her own pet projects when she was Secretary of State. The Pentagon’s military base strategy stuck in a 1980’s time-warped vision of Southeast Asia is on the verge of imploding. The Philippines, its former colony and vassal state, is finally turning away from its total subservience to US military dictates and toward greater independence and stronger regional ties to China and the rest of Asia. Southeast Asia and the South China Sea are no longer part of a grand chessboard subject to Pentagon moves for domination.

In desperation, Washington may decide to resort to a military power grab- a coup in the Philippines, backed by a coalition of Manila-based oligarchs, narco-bosses and generals. The problem with a precipitate move to ‘regime change’ is that Rodrigo Duterte is immensely popular with the Philippine electorate – precisely for the reasons that the Washington elite and Manila oligarchs despise him. The mayor of Manila, Joseph Estrada, himself a former victim of a Washington-instigated regime change, has stated that any US backed coup will face a million-member mass opposition and the bulk of the nationalist middle and powerful Chinese-oriented business class. A failed coup, like the disastrous coup in Venezuela in 2002 against Hugo Chavez could radicalize Duterte’s policy well beyond his staunchly nationalist agenda and further isolate the US.

See James Petras latest book from Clarity Press: ISBN: 978-0-9972870-5-9, $24.95 / 252 pp. / 2016
http://www.claritypress.com/PetrasVIII.html

(Republished from The James Petras Website by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    The crazy logic of imperialism.

    Romans sought more dominance and glory abroad via expansion even as their home base in Italy was deteriorating.

    US cannot protect its borders, and its core population, the whites, are totally demoralized or demented by PC and Pop Culture, and yet, there is so much imperial ambition abroad in Asia, Middle East, North Africa, Ukraine, Russia, etc.
    It’s like a man so addicted to gaining new fortunes or seeking new adventures by wandering around that he fails to notice or doesn’t care that his family is starving.
    Like the guy in The Swimmer.

    But from a political viewpoint, this is understandable. US government can act dictatorial and ‘big’ in foreign policy whereas it is up against more obstacles, legal and political, at home. It’s like Nixon paid increasingly more attention to foreign policy since he found domestic politics so frustration.

    Btw, I don’t think US is trying to dominate China. US is well-aware that its provocations will make China build up its military even faster.
    US wants this because it could then use the ‘fear of China’ among the smaller Asian nations that will come to US as savior. US gets to keep its dogs scared of the Chinese wolf.

    And China could be overplaying its role as rival of the US. It has huge financial problems(bigger than America), and more partners under its trade umbreall could also mean more drain on resources. After all, a lot of nations came on-board with what amounts to trade-bribes.
    Consider how BRICS turned out to be a mess. Does China and Russia really want to be involved too directly with Brazil, India, and especially South Africa?
    US and EU may have big problems, but rest of the world are a bigger mess. Look at Venezuela.

    Is US looking for direct confrontation with China? I don’t think so. I think it is using tensions to keep smaller Asian nations in US orbit for protection.

    Same thing in Europe. I don’t think Hillary and Co. want war with Russia. No one wants to be responsible for 10s of millions of dead, even if the war could be won.
    Rather, the anti-Russian tensions is to draw European nations closer to the US and keep them there.
    It’s like in the movie THE VILLAGE. Use the monster-scare-tactics to keep the community close.

    The long-term plan for Russian collapse isn’t military. It is economic. Via sanctions and forcing Russia to spend more on military, US hopes to bankrupt Russia to the point of decline and destruction. It’s Reaganism Redux. Outspend them and make them spend and spend until they can’t anymore.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Priss, is there any concept that you believe can't be explained by movie clips?
    , @Joe Wong
    "US hopes to bankrupt Russia to the point of decline and destruction. It’s Reaganism Redux. Outspend them and make them spend and spend until they can’t anymore." reflects the American psycho stuck in a 1980’s time-warped vision of world view with a mindset belonging to the past, stalled in the old days colonialism and constrained by the zero-sum cold war mentality like a 'God-fearing' morally defunct evil 'inquisitor'.

    The reality is the USA's economy is declining and its national debt is sky rocketing out of control, 20 trillions at the moment, while Russia has a steady economic growth with a comfortable foreign exchange reserve. USA is spending on military uncontrollably, pretty soon the USA will implode like the USSR as the "Reaganism Redux" chickens come home to roost.
    , @gwynedd1
    The Soviet Union, and lets face it the Warsaw pact was part of it, was an empire. Such a beast was easy to starve. The maintenance of it is an expensive occupation. Its not going to work on nationalist Russia. They occupy nothing. Meanwhile Russian arms is an export. 15 billion of their output is not an expense but a trade asset.

    The only real tool the US has is to sow discord in Asia.

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  2. Diogenes says:

    One can hope that Duterte’s popularity with the Philippine people will assure him of some staying power but the CIA will use the corrupt elements in that society to overthrow him. The strategic importance of the Philippines to the China containment policy virtually assures an attempt at regime chance. Perhaps it’s time to establish Chinese PLA bases instead of American bases, as a safety measure? How would that go down in Washington?

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  3. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    The crazy logic of imperialism.

    Romans sought more dominance and glory abroad via expansion even as their home base in Italy was deteriorating.

    US cannot protect its borders, and its core population, the whites, are totally demoralized or demented by PC and Pop Culture, and yet, there is so much imperial ambition abroad in Asia, Middle East, North Africa, Ukraine, Russia, etc.
    It's like a man so addicted to gaining new fortunes or seeking new adventures by wandering around that he fails to notice or doesn't care that his family is starving.
    Like the guy in The Swimmer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpe46BtVVoM

    But from a political viewpoint, this is understandable. US government can act dictatorial and 'big' in foreign policy whereas it is up against more obstacles, legal and political, at home. It's like Nixon paid increasingly more attention to foreign policy since he found domestic politics so frustration.

    Btw, I don't think US is trying to dominate China. US is well-aware that its provocations will make China build up its military even faster.
    US wants this because it could then use the 'fear of China' among the smaller Asian nations that will come to US as savior. US gets to keep its dogs scared of the Chinese wolf.

    And China could be overplaying its role as rival of the US. It has huge financial problems(bigger than America), and more partners under its trade umbreall could also mean more drain on resources. After all, a lot of nations came on-board with what amounts to trade-bribes.
    Consider how BRICS turned out to be a mess. Does China and Russia really want to be involved too directly with Brazil, India, and especially South Africa?
    US and EU may have big problems, but rest of the world are a bigger mess. Look at Venezuela.

    Is US looking for direct confrontation with China? I don't think so. I think it is using tensions to keep smaller Asian nations in US orbit for protection.

    Same thing in Europe. I don't think Hillary and Co. want war with Russia. No one wants to be responsible for 10s of millions of dead, even if the war could be won.
    Rather, the anti-Russian tensions is to draw European nations closer to the US and keep them there.
    It's like in the movie THE VILLAGE. Use the monster-scare-tactics to keep the community close.

    The long-term plan for Russian collapse isn't military. It is economic. Via sanctions and forcing Russia to spend more on military, US hopes to bankrupt Russia to the point of decline and destruction. It's Reaganism Redux. Outspend them and make them spend and spend until they can't anymore.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZSk48cYCKk

    Priss, is there any concept that you believe can’t be explained by movie clips?

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    • Replies: @Stan
    The dumbed down products of the American education system are unable to form a worldview without the aid of movies, tv shows, comic books and video games. No wonder America is in decline. How many of the uneducated products of the American education system even know Joseph Stalin, TS Eliot, Ezra Pound, Rimbaud or Irving Babbit?
    , @n230099
    LOL!! Although, watching this Administration, one is reminded of the final frame of "Charly" on the see-saw.
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  4. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “For over seventy years the US has dominated Asia, ravaging the continent with two major wars in Korea and Indo-China with millions of casualties, and multiple counter-insurgency interventions in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Timor, Myanmar, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The strategic goal has been to expand its military and political power, exploit the economies and resources and encircle China and North Korea.”

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.

    Especially after World War II, American ‘imperialism’ was decidedly different from the European kind that was mostly extractive(though less by British who did contribute good things). US made some fatal flaws: Having Soviets enter North China and Korea, setting the grounds for Mao’s victory and Korean war. Also, dividing Vietnam led to the war over there that was a total mess.

    But Japanese social, political, and economic gains after WWII were real. And there was, for a time, genuine cultural flowering. And South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore made great progress under US umbrella and by emulating US economic systems. And US was the great market/consumer of Asian-made products.

    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies. Chinese Communist model was even worse. Mao killed how many? 30 to 50 million. And in peacetime. And how much culture did he destroy. And then, there was Khmer Rouge, modeled on Maoism. What horror that was. Killing 2 out of 7 million for some mad social experiment. And North Korea makes 1984 sound like a gathering of Cato Institute.
    (And Japanese designs on Asia in the 30s were far more sinister than American imperialism.)

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia. That was during the Cold War when US was still ruled by Anglo-Americans elites and informed by Christian values and pride in European heritage.

    America really began to go wrong since end of Cold War. When it ended, Russia was no longer the enemy. It wanted to be friends. China had turned to market economy and just wanted to do business. China did move toward greater stake in Asia, but it is wholly understandable since it is the premier nation in Asia and had traditionally been such for 1000 yrs. So, rise of China as regional power was only natural.
    But US still acts in mode of Cold War politics and meddles too much in world affairs, especially when there are now so many problems at home in America itself, what with sinking middle class, white death, broken borders, decline of rule of law, fading of social/moral consensus, and cultural rot.

    And American culture went from Christian values and Euro-American identity to some shallow idiotic celebration of homosexuals, trannies, trashy rappers, porn stars, and shameless celebrities.
    American pop culture always had a salacious and shady side(esp since the Jazz Age), but now it is an open sewage and causes baleful harm to the world.
    How a nation with a culture so debased can go around talking about dignity, human rights, and etc to the rest of the world is beyond me. How did US become a nation that destroys businesses because they won’t bake cakes for homo tying the knot?

    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch, they did have some sense of honor. Maybe not enough, but some. Also, there was a broad Anglo-American social reform movement that was especially critical of the Wasps who held the power.
    But the new masters, the Jewish globalists, are utterly without conscience when it comes to people outside the tribe. There are increasing number of Jewish critics of this Power that is spiraling out of control, but their voices are mostly ineffective.
    The rationale for American power is now totally surreal and nuts in Syria, Ukraine, and etc. US is acting like Nazis.

    And then, the problem of boomers taking power. Boomers emotionally failed to mature beyond their college yrs. (Millennials are of course worse.) Their sense of history and culture is shallow. They have no conviction or compass; they will say and do anything to get what’s theirs. Clintons and Bushes and Obamas exemplify this utter rot. Just how did the Democratic Party become what it is?

    This is why we need to discern a historical break in discussing American power: Before Cold War and After Cold War. US did a lot of bad stuff in the Cold War, but overall, its power and influence were preferable to that of the other side and other alternatives. Francis Fuku may have over-stated his case, but he was half-right in claiming great victory for the Western Way.

    But with all the cultural rot and decadence that grew out of control since the rise of the boomers, American Global Power is one sick puppy. US is still great at science and technology, but its culture and politics are total shit. American elites are degenerate, and American masses have tattoos on their asses. What kind of a civilization is this?

    And even though Russia and China are hardly models of good governance — they are dens of corruption and cronyism — , they seem to be relatively sane when it comes to culture and politics. They don’t worship people for being homo or tranny. And they don’t seek global hegemony or invade/destroy entire nations for bogus nonsense about WMD or ‘human rights’. A vile wench like Samantha Powers is a US phenom.

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    I take that as a yes. Well, based on the above, I say moar movie clips.
    , @Questionator
    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch

    It is unfair and inaccurate to characterize Anglo Saxons as "a devious bunch."

    Also, I beg you to avoid the term "Wasp." It is a racial slur used by globalist invaders to dehumanize core Americans and to whip up hatred against them.
    , @Jason Liu
    Democracy was the worst thing that's happened to the world, including Asia and America.

    Your insane culture and politics are the direct consequence of everyone being allowed equal political agency through universal suffrage. The only reason Asia hasn't descended to those depths is because Asian societies still concentrate power in the hands of old men from the majority ethnic group, and that occurs despite democracy.
    , @Wally
    " US is acting like Nazis."

    You have a blind spot in your knowledge of history, you have been indoctrinated.

    There are the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there are the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The only reason the average American is more likely to agree with Jewish supremacists / Israel is because they’ve had their head filled with various absurd fictions such as 'holocaust' propaganda, “Judeo-Christian values”, and Jews being a uniquely righteous, exceptional, and persecuted people.

    Indeed, the impossible '6M, 5M others, & gas chambers' has hoodwinked too many for too long.

    The "holocaust' Industry's Potemkin Villages, aka 'holocaust museums' are pure theme park theatre.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869:
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg
    , @Anonymous
    @Anon.

    This drivel is what white people always say when they wreck another continent. Just white people romanticising the past.

    For the blacks who came here as slaves, whites will explain it away as "sure a lot of them died and we're mistreated, but now blacks live in a modern country and have higher living standards than black Africans.

    With the red man, sure they are all almost extinct now, but we gave them civilization and medicine and technology. So it is justified. ETC etc.

    Interfering in other cultures the way white people do is never ok, whatever your perceived benefits are. Assassinating foreign leaders, promoting color revolutions, dividing countries, forcing the fiat dollar onto the east, all happened while the Wasp was in charge so quit blaming everything on the Jews.

    Japanese economic and social gains happened because of the Japanese, not because the white man gifted these things to Japan. The west actually neutered Japan when Japan started getting too powerfull in the 80's. That's what you get when you are too close to the west lol.

    What ever benefits the east got from the west could have been done voluntarily and peacefully, the honorable way. But the west chose to colonize the east and all that is coming to an end and Asians know the game.

    Blame it all on Jews if you want, but I thank them for helping to end the Wasp empire.
    , @jacques sheete

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.
     
    I hope you don't imagine that all that was due to 'Merkin altruism.

    I would bet that a good case could be made that all the "flowering" would have taken place sooner if the US militarists had stayed home instead.


    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies.
     
    Guess who/what supported those Soviets to the max.

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia.
     
    Far from perfect? You gotta be kidding. The "American modeL?" Gimmee a break. Why apologize for mass murder and a pompous "Merkin boot heel on their faces?
    , @Biff



    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia.
     
    So says some shmuck on the Internet.

    For thousands of years Power and wealth have been concentrated in the hands of the few. Voting and democracy hasn't changed that at all, but what it has done is give war, murder, theft, and rape more of a legitimate air to it - "It was the will of the people"
    , @Joe Wong
    American exceptionalism is claiming credit where credit is not due, and never take responsibility for its own deed by pointing fingers at the others, this retarded and toxic mentality promulgated from your comment.

    American sold their souls to the dark side of humanity by betraying their anti-fascist war allies and allying with the unrepentant war criminal Japanese in order to fill their greed and global full spectrum dominance imperialism.

    When the American was dominant in Pacific Asia, Pacific-Asia was plagued with wars, poverty, corruption, misery, chaos, destruction, conflicts, brutality, culture genocide, ... When the American domination waned Pacific-Asia rejuvenated, prospered and grow to the point that the American is using "pivot-to-Asia" to destroy the peace and prosperity in Pacific-Asia.

    American is a negative and suffocating factor of Pacific-Asia's peace, growth and prosperity. Without the presence of the American, the Western imperialists and their running dog the unrepentant war criminal Japanese, Pacific-Asia can do way better and way earlier.
    , @woodNfish
    Foreigners may think that the pap marketed by hollywood represents amerikan culture, but they would be just as wrong as you are. Middle amerika does not look like a hollywood movie no matter how much you'd like it to.
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  5. There are 75 million boomers today. That’s a lot of people to generalize about. Civilizations ascend and descend. We don’t get to decide which side of the curve we are born into.

    I served under Johnson and Nixon. What Washington did to South East Asia was obscene and unforgivable. Nothing has changed.

    The West is in steep decline. When the Berlin Wall moment arrives there will be dancing in the street all over the world. It won’t be the end of evil but the end of a singular manifestation of evil. I hope to live to see it.

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  6. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    "For over seventy years the US has dominated Asia, ravaging the continent with two major wars in Korea and Indo-China with millions of casualties, and multiple counter-insurgency interventions in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Timor, Myanmar, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The strategic goal has been to expand its military and political power, exploit the economies and resources and encircle China and North Korea."

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.

    Especially after World War II, American 'imperialism' was decidedly different from the European kind that was mostly extractive(though less by British who did contribute good things). US made some fatal flaws: Having Soviets enter North China and Korea, setting the grounds for Mao's victory and Korean war. Also, dividing Vietnam led to the war over there that was a total mess.

    But Japanese social, political, and economic gains after WWII were real. And there was, for a time, genuine cultural flowering. And South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore made great progress under US umbrella and by emulating US economic systems. And US was the great market/consumer of Asian-made products.

    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies. Chinese Communist model was even worse. Mao killed how many? 30 to 50 million. And in peacetime. And how much culture did he destroy. And then, there was Khmer Rouge, modeled on Maoism. What horror that was. Killing 2 out of 7 million for some mad social experiment. And North Korea makes 1984 sound like a gathering of Cato Institute.
    (And Japanese designs on Asia in the 30s were far more sinister than American imperialism.)

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia. That was during the Cold War when US was still ruled by Anglo-Americans elites and informed by Christian values and pride in European heritage.

    America really began to go wrong since end of Cold War. When it ended, Russia was no longer the enemy. It wanted to be friends. China had turned to market economy and just wanted to do business. China did move toward greater stake in Asia, but it is wholly understandable since it is the premier nation in Asia and had traditionally been such for 1000 yrs. So, rise of China as regional power was only natural.
    But US still acts in mode of Cold War politics and meddles too much in world affairs, especially when there are now so many problems at home in America itself, what with sinking middle class, white death, broken borders, decline of rule of law, fading of social/moral consensus, and cultural rot.

    And American culture went from Christian values and Euro-American identity to some shallow idiotic celebration of homosexuals, trannies, trashy rappers, porn stars, and shameless celebrities.
    American pop culture always had a salacious and shady side(esp since the Jazz Age), but now it is an open sewage and causes baleful harm to the world.
    How a nation with a culture so debased can go around talking about dignity, human rights, and etc to the rest of the world is beyond me. How did US become a nation that destroys businesses because they won't bake cakes for homo tying the knot?

    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch, they did have some sense of honor. Maybe not enough, but some. Also, there was a broad Anglo-American social reform movement that was especially critical of the Wasps who held the power.
    But the new masters, the Jewish globalists, are utterly without conscience when it comes to people outside the tribe. There are increasing number of Jewish critics of this Power that is spiraling out of control, but their voices are mostly ineffective.
    The rationale for American power is now totally surreal and nuts in Syria, Ukraine, and etc. US is acting like Nazis.

    And then, the problem of boomers taking power. Boomers emotionally failed to mature beyond their college yrs. (Millennials are of course worse.) Their sense of history and culture is shallow. They have no conviction or compass; they will say and do anything to get what's theirs. Clintons and Bushes and Obamas exemplify this utter rot. Just how did the Democratic Party become what it is?

    This is why we need to discern a historical break in discussing American power: Before Cold War and After Cold War. US did a lot of bad stuff in the Cold War, but overall, its power and influence were preferable to that of the other side and other alternatives. Francis Fuku may have over-stated his case, but he was half-right in claiming great victory for the Western Way.

    But with all the cultural rot and decadence that grew out of control since the rise of the boomers, American Global Power is one sick puppy. US is still great at science and technology, but its culture and politics are total shit. American elites are degenerate, and American masses have tattoos on their asses. What kind of a civilization is this?

    And even though Russia and China are hardly models of good governance --- they are dens of corruption and cronyism --- , they seem to be relatively sane when it comes to culture and politics. They don't worship people for being homo or tranny. And they don't seek global hegemony or invade/destroy entire nations for bogus nonsense about WMD or 'human rights'. A vile wench like Samantha Powers is a US phenom.

    I take that as a yes. Well, based on the above, I say moar movie clips.

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  7. @Anon
    "For over seventy years the US has dominated Asia, ravaging the continent with two major wars in Korea and Indo-China with millions of casualties, and multiple counter-insurgency interventions in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Timor, Myanmar, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The strategic goal has been to expand its military and political power, exploit the economies and resources and encircle China and North Korea."

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.

    Especially after World War II, American 'imperialism' was decidedly different from the European kind that was mostly extractive(though less by British who did contribute good things). US made some fatal flaws: Having Soviets enter North China and Korea, setting the grounds for Mao's victory and Korean war. Also, dividing Vietnam led to the war over there that was a total mess.

    But Japanese social, political, and economic gains after WWII were real. And there was, for a time, genuine cultural flowering. And South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore made great progress under US umbrella and by emulating US economic systems. And US was the great market/consumer of Asian-made products.

    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies. Chinese Communist model was even worse. Mao killed how many? 30 to 50 million. And in peacetime. And how much culture did he destroy. And then, there was Khmer Rouge, modeled on Maoism. What horror that was. Killing 2 out of 7 million for some mad social experiment. And North Korea makes 1984 sound like a gathering of Cato Institute.
    (And Japanese designs on Asia in the 30s were far more sinister than American imperialism.)

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia. That was during the Cold War when US was still ruled by Anglo-Americans elites and informed by Christian values and pride in European heritage.

    America really began to go wrong since end of Cold War. When it ended, Russia was no longer the enemy. It wanted to be friends. China had turned to market economy and just wanted to do business. China did move toward greater stake in Asia, but it is wholly understandable since it is the premier nation in Asia and had traditionally been such for 1000 yrs. So, rise of China as regional power was only natural.
    But US still acts in mode of Cold War politics and meddles too much in world affairs, especially when there are now so many problems at home in America itself, what with sinking middle class, white death, broken borders, decline of rule of law, fading of social/moral consensus, and cultural rot.

    And American culture went from Christian values and Euro-American identity to some shallow idiotic celebration of homosexuals, trannies, trashy rappers, porn stars, and shameless celebrities.
    American pop culture always had a salacious and shady side(esp since the Jazz Age), but now it is an open sewage and causes baleful harm to the world.
    How a nation with a culture so debased can go around talking about dignity, human rights, and etc to the rest of the world is beyond me. How did US become a nation that destroys businesses because they won't bake cakes for homo tying the knot?

    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch, they did have some sense of honor. Maybe not enough, but some. Also, there was a broad Anglo-American social reform movement that was especially critical of the Wasps who held the power.
    But the new masters, the Jewish globalists, are utterly without conscience when it comes to people outside the tribe. There are increasing number of Jewish critics of this Power that is spiraling out of control, but their voices are mostly ineffective.
    The rationale for American power is now totally surreal and nuts in Syria, Ukraine, and etc. US is acting like Nazis.

    And then, the problem of boomers taking power. Boomers emotionally failed to mature beyond their college yrs. (Millennials are of course worse.) Their sense of history and culture is shallow. They have no conviction or compass; they will say and do anything to get what's theirs. Clintons and Bushes and Obamas exemplify this utter rot. Just how did the Democratic Party become what it is?

    This is why we need to discern a historical break in discussing American power: Before Cold War and After Cold War. US did a lot of bad stuff in the Cold War, but overall, its power and influence were preferable to that of the other side and other alternatives. Francis Fuku may have over-stated his case, but he was half-right in claiming great victory for the Western Way.

    But with all the cultural rot and decadence that grew out of control since the rise of the boomers, American Global Power is one sick puppy. US is still great at science and technology, but its culture and politics are total shit. American elites are degenerate, and American masses have tattoos on their asses. What kind of a civilization is this?

    And even though Russia and China are hardly models of good governance --- they are dens of corruption and cronyism --- , they seem to be relatively sane when it comes to culture and politics. They don't worship people for being homo or tranny. And they don't seek global hegemony or invade/destroy entire nations for bogus nonsense about WMD or 'human rights'. A vile wench like Samantha Powers is a US phenom.

    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch

    It is unfair and inaccurate to characterize Anglo Saxons as “a devious bunch.”

    Also, I beg you to avoid the term “Wasp.” It is a racial slur used by globalist invaders to dehumanize core Americans and to whip up hatred against them.

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    Glad you mentioned that WASP was invented as a slur against middle and upper class Protestants of British descent

    Of course the White middle class Protestants of British descent invented plenty of slurs against working class White Protestants of British descent: cracker, red neck, White trash, mill trash, hillbilly, backwoodsman, swamp Yankee and lint head. Lint head referred to textile mill workers who were covered with lint at end of shift.

    Dumb Swede, kraut, paddy, hunky, polac, dago dirty mick on and on a nasty name for every body.
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  8. Stan says:
    @anonymous
    Priss, is there any concept that you believe can't be explained by movie clips?

    The dumbed down products of the American education system are unable to form a worldview without the aid of movies, tv shows, comic books and video games. No wonder America is in decline. How many of the uneducated products of the American education system even know Joseph Stalin, TS Eliot, Ezra Pound, Rimbaud or Irving Babbit?

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Stalin?

    Oh, I remember.

    He was the guy that the NY Times praised, supported, and to this day still deflects criticism of.

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  9. This is a real time collapse of American foreign policy across multiple theaters – Pivot to Asia is done, the middle east is in flames, and they are being outmaneuvered by Putin in Ukraine and Syria, Iran is laughing at their naivete, Saudi Arabia is furious with them as well as Pakistan which is going out of the way to install another Taliban regime in Afghanistan. After 15 years of war in Afghanistan the Taliban is on a roll. America has serious problems on the homefront with large disaffected demographics which will be exacerbated no matter who wins their buffoonish elections. Add that to a 20 trillion dollar debt and a gridlocked congress. They are facing an accelerating loss of credibility and morale which will not be rolled back easily.

    We are in historic times watching the precipitous decline of a Superpower. The power vacuum will be dangerous and what is worse this wounded beast will make a last ditch attempt to regain lost glory. Dangerous times indeed.

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    "The US military, despite all our challenges, will stop you, and we will beat you harder than you have ever been beaten before." the American Army Chief said, it surly proves the Empire of Chaos will make a last nasty ditch attempt to regain lost glory like a wounded beast, dangerous times indeed.
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  10. Thank you for writing “For over a century (since the invasion of the Philippines in 1896)”. Yes, we invaded, not freed, although it was 1899. Fresh from my blog:

    Oct 28, 2016 – The US Military Invaded the Philippines

    One great myth in the USA is that our nation liberated the Philippines from Spanish rule. This lie is found in all school textbooks and is repeated in modern news articles, whose authors express dismay that the new President of the Philippines does not appreciate America’s past assistance. If one bothers to read history books about the Philippines, they reveal that the USA invaded the Philippines in 1899 and destroyed its new government and army. 

    In summary, a colonial rebellion was orchestrated by wealthy and educated Filipinos beginning in 1896. They assembled a modern army as they gradually defeated the scattered Spanish army throughout their nation. (Filipino officers are pictured in 1898.) The Philippine Army grew into regiments and battalions, with an officer corps, uniforms, cavalry, and some artillery. Most of its officers were college educated (many in Spain) and included dozens of former Spanish officers. 

    The once mighty empire of Spain was collapsing as rebellions in the Philippines and Cuba sapped its strength. By 1898, the Spanish had been militarily defeated in the Philippines. Its navy held onto its main naval base at Cavite, which was located on a narrow, easily defended peninsula. The remnants of the Spanish colonial army held the fortified central part of Manila. Unless a major reinforcements arrived from Spain, these remnants would be forced to surrender. 

    In the USA, some wealthy Americans were anxious to establish an empire and manipulated public opinion until the US Congress declared war to allow the US military to seize parts of the collapsing Spanish empire. The US Navy had a squadron deployed to Hong Kong. Soon after war was declared in 1898, it sailed into Manila Bay and quickly sank eight old Spanish warships. US Marines went ashore to accept surrender of the Cavite naval base. 

    The General in charge of the 8400 Spanish soldiers stranded across the bay in Manila sent word that he wanted to surrender to the Americans too. The USA had declared war on Spain after demonizing its military as evil sadists, so leaving their fate to the advancing Filipinos seems fair. However, that is not why the USA declared war. The USA was mobilizing and assembling an entire Army Corps in California to invade and occupy the Philippines, so the Spanish were told to hang on because a rescue force was on the way.

    American Generals in Cavite assured the new Philippine government that the USA was not an empire and had no colonies. The US military was a force for good and troops would soon arrive to end the bloodshed by convincing the encircled Spaniards to surrender. As American infantry arrived, Filipino units escorted them to Spanish strong-points. Spanish officers were from a proud empire and cowards were court-martialed and imprisoned back home. Their officers informally agreed to surrender, but only after brave skirmishes with American troops.
    Afterwards, American infantry units were scattered among Filipino infantry around Manila.

    American Generals said they needed their own zones to prevent incidents among American troops (with their Spanish POWs) and Filipino soldiers. This was granted by the Philippine government, but demands for larger zones were made as more American troops landed. American troops poured into Manila even after all the Spanish POWs had been evacuated! Tensions grew as excuses offered by American Generals made no sense, and some bored American soldiers abused locals, who they referred to as monkeys and niggers.

    Once the entire American 8th Army Corps was ashore in Manila and ready for battle, a local shooting incident was the excuse to invade. Large battles occurred as American infantry attacked their nearby “allies.” The Philippine Army (a unit is pictured) was overwhelmed, mostly because the Americans had mobile light artillery and new Gatling guns. The defeated Philippine Army withdrew northward as American forces landed elsewhere to conquer all the Philippines. There were large conventional battles for almost a year. An insurgency only developed after the regular Army had been shattered. 

    Many American veterans of this invasion/occupation felt betrayed since they had volunteered to liberate the oppressed, just like many who joined our Army a century later to liberate Iraq. These facts are not disputed, but American textbooks spin them to evade the reality that the USA invaded the Philippines. A great book about this war with lots of pictures can be read on-line: Philippine-American War 1899-1902.

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    Thank you for the overview of the beginning of the US-Philippines relationships
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  11. Jason Liu says:
    @Anon
    "For over seventy years the US has dominated Asia, ravaging the continent with two major wars in Korea and Indo-China with millions of casualties, and multiple counter-insurgency interventions in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Timor, Myanmar, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The strategic goal has been to expand its military and political power, exploit the economies and resources and encircle China and North Korea."

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.

    Especially after World War II, American 'imperialism' was decidedly different from the European kind that was mostly extractive(though less by British who did contribute good things). US made some fatal flaws: Having Soviets enter North China and Korea, setting the grounds for Mao's victory and Korean war. Also, dividing Vietnam led to the war over there that was a total mess.

    But Japanese social, political, and economic gains after WWII were real. And there was, for a time, genuine cultural flowering. And South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore made great progress under US umbrella and by emulating US economic systems. And US was the great market/consumer of Asian-made products.

    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies. Chinese Communist model was even worse. Mao killed how many? 30 to 50 million. And in peacetime. And how much culture did he destroy. And then, there was Khmer Rouge, modeled on Maoism. What horror that was. Killing 2 out of 7 million for some mad social experiment. And North Korea makes 1984 sound like a gathering of Cato Institute.
    (And Japanese designs on Asia in the 30s were far more sinister than American imperialism.)

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia. That was during the Cold War when US was still ruled by Anglo-Americans elites and informed by Christian values and pride in European heritage.

    America really began to go wrong since end of Cold War. When it ended, Russia was no longer the enemy. It wanted to be friends. China had turned to market economy and just wanted to do business. China did move toward greater stake in Asia, but it is wholly understandable since it is the premier nation in Asia and had traditionally been such for 1000 yrs. So, rise of China as regional power was only natural.
    But US still acts in mode of Cold War politics and meddles too much in world affairs, especially when there are now so many problems at home in America itself, what with sinking middle class, white death, broken borders, decline of rule of law, fading of social/moral consensus, and cultural rot.

    And American culture went from Christian values and Euro-American identity to some shallow idiotic celebration of homosexuals, trannies, trashy rappers, porn stars, and shameless celebrities.
    American pop culture always had a salacious and shady side(esp since the Jazz Age), but now it is an open sewage and causes baleful harm to the world.
    How a nation with a culture so debased can go around talking about dignity, human rights, and etc to the rest of the world is beyond me. How did US become a nation that destroys businesses because they won't bake cakes for homo tying the knot?

    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch, they did have some sense of honor. Maybe not enough, but some. Also, there was a broad Anglo-American social reform movement that was especially critical of the Wasps who held the power.
    But the new masters, the Jewish globalists, are utterly without conscience when it comes to people outside the tribe. There are increasing number of Jewish critics of this Power that is spiraling out of control, but their voices are mostly ineffective.
    The rationale for American power is now totally surreal and nuts in Syria, Ukraine, and etc. US is acting like Nazis.

    And then, the problem of boomers taking power. Boomers emotionally failed to mature beyond their college yrs. (Millennials are of course worse.) Their sense of history and culture is shallow. They have no conviction or compass; they will say and do anything to get what's theirs. Clintons and Bushes and Obamas exemplify this utter rot. Just how did the Democratic Party become what it is?

    This is why we need to discern a historical break in discussing American power: Before Cold War and After Cold War. US did a lot of bad stuff in the Cold War, but overall, its power and influence were preferable to that of the other side and other alternatives. Francis Fuku may have over-stated his case, but he was half-right in claiming great victory for the Western Way.

    But with all the cultural rot and decadence that grew out of control since the rise of the boomers, American Global Power is one sick puppy. US is still great at science and technology, but its culture and politics are total shit. American elites are degenerate, and American masses have tattoos on their asses. What kind of a civilization is this?

    And even though Russia and China are hardly models of good governance --- they are dens of corruption and cronyism --- , they seem to be relatively sane when it comes to culture and politics. They don't worship people for being homo or tranny. And they don't seek global hegemony or invade/destroy entire nations for bogus nonsense about WMD or 'human rights'. A vile wench like Samantha Powers is a US phenom.

    Democracy was the worst thing that’s happened to the world, including Asia and America.

    Your insane culture and politics are the direct consequence of everyone being allowed equal political agency through universal suffrage. The only reason Asia hasn’t descended to those depths is because Asian societies still concentrate power in the hands of old men from the majority ethnic group, and that occurs despite democracy.

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    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    The USA does not have a democracy as the myths falsely suggest. Never did.

    The CIA world fact book used to say that the government of the US was a "constitutional republic with a strong democratic tradition," but now sez this:

    [USA]Government type:
    federal presidential republic

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
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  12. Wally says:
    @Stan
    The dumbed down products of the American education system are unable to form a worldview without the aid of movies, tv shows, comic books and video games. No wonder America is in decline. How many of the uneducated products of the American education system even know Joseph Stalin, TS Eliot, Ezra Pound, Rimbaud or Irving Babbit?

    Stalin?

    Oh, I remember.

    He was the guy that the NY Times praised, supported, and to this day still deflects criticism of.

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    Yup, and he and his unloved buddy, Lenin were responsible for the murder of millions before the US decided to recognize, appease and support the blood soaked USSR.
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  13. Wally says: • Website
    @Anon
    "For over seventy years the US has dominated Asia, ravaging the continent with two major wars in Korea and Indo-China with millions of casualties, and multiple counter-insurgency interventions in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Timor, Myanmar, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The strategic goal has been to expand its military and political power, exploit the economies and resources and encircle China and North Korea."

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.

    Especially after World War II, American 'imperialism' was decidedly different from the European kind that was mostly extractive(though less by British who did contribute good things). US made some fatal flaws: Having Soviets enter North China and Korea, setting the grounds for Mao's victory and Korean war. Also, dividing Vietnam led to the war over there that was a total mess.

    But Japanese social, political, and economic gains after WWII were real. And there was, for a time, genuine cultural flowering. And South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore made great progress under US umbrella and by emulating US economic systems. And US was the great market/consumer of Asian-made products.

    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies. Chinese Communist model was even worse. Mao killed how many? 30 to 50 million. And in peacetime. And how much culture did he destroy. And then, there was Khmer Rouge, modeled on Maoism. What horror that was. Killing 2 out of 7 million for some mad social experiment. And North Korea makes 1984 sound like a gathering of Cato Institute.
    (And Japanese designs on Asia in the 30s were far more sinister than American imperialism.)

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia. That was during the Cold War when US was still ruled by Anglo-Americans elites and informed by Christian values and pride in European heritage.

    America really began to go wrong since end of Cold War. When it ended, Russia was no longer the enemy. It wanted to be friends. China had turned to market economy and just wanted to do business. China did move toward greater stake in Asia, but it is wholly understandable since it is the premier nation in Asia and had traditionally been such for 1000 yrs. So, rise of China as regional power was only natural.
    But US still acts in mode of Cold War politics and meddles too much in world affairs, especially when there are now so many problems at home in America itself, what with sinking middle class, white death, broken borders, decline of rule of law, fading of social/moral consensus, and cultural rot.

    And American culture went from Christian values and Euro-American identity to some shallow idiotic celebration of homosexuals, trannies, trashy rappers, porn stars, and shameless celebrities.
    American pop culture always had a salacious and shady side(esp since the Jazz Age), but now it is an open sewage and causes baleful harm to the world.
    How a nation with a culture so debased can go around talking about dignity, human rights, and etc to the rest of the world is beyond me. How did US become a nation that destroys businesses because they won't bake cakes for homo tying the knot?

    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch, they did have some sense of honor. Maybe not enough, but some. Also, there was a broad Anglo-American social reform movement that was especially critical of the Wasps who held the power.
    But the new masters, the Jewish globalists, are utterly without conscience when it comes to people outside the tribe. There are increasing number of Jewish critics of this Power that is spiraling out of control, but their voices are mostly ineffective.
    The rationale for American power is now totally surreal and nuts in Syria, Ukraine, and etc. US is acting like Nazis.

    And then, the problem of boomers taking power. Boomers emotionally failed to mature beyond their college yrs. (Millennials are of course worse.) Their sense of history and culture is shallow. They have no conviction or compass; they will say and do anything to get what's theirs. Clintons and Bushes and Obamas exemplify this utter rot. Just how did the Democratic Party become what it is?

    This is why we need to discern a historical break in discussing American power: Before Cold War and After Cold War. US did a lot of bad stuff in the Cold War, but overall, its power and influence were preferable to that of the other side and other alternatives. Francis Fuku may have over-stated his case, but he was half-right in claiming great victory for the Western Way.

    But with all the cultural rot and decadence that grew out of control since the rise of the boomers, American Global Power is one sick puppy. US is still great at science and technology, but its culture and politics are total shit. American elites are degenerate, and American masses have tattoos on their asses. What kind of a civilization is this?

    And even though Russia and China are hardly models of good governance --- they are dens of corruption and cronyism --- , they seem to be relatively sane when it comes to culture and politics. They don't worship people for being homo or tranny. And they don't seek global hegemony or invade/destroy entire nations for bogus nonsense about WMD or 'human rights'. A vile wench like Samantha Powers is a US phenom.

    ” US is acting like Nazis.”

    You have a blind spot in your knowledge of history, you have been indoctrinated.

    There are the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there are the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    [MORE]

    The only reason the average American is more likely to agree with Jewish supremacists / Israel is because they’ve had their head filled with various absurd fictions such as ‘holocaust’ propaganda, “Judeo-Christian values”, and Jews being a uniquely righteous, exceptional, and persecuted people.

    Indeed, the impossible ’6M, 5M others, & gas chambers’ has hoodwinked too many for too long.

    The “holocaust’ Industry’s Potemkin Villages, aka ‘holocaust museums’ are pure theme park theatre.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869:

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    Honest question, are you asserting that no Jewish civilians were rounded up and perished in prison camps? If you are disputing the "number"- then how many were "actually" murdered?
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  14. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    "For over seventy years the US has dominated Asia, ravaging the continent with two major wars in Korea and Indo-China with millions of casualties, and multiple counter-insurgency interventions in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Timor, Myanmar, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The strategic goal has been to expand its military and political power, exploit the economies and resources and encircle China and North Korea."

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.

    Especially after World War II, American 'imperialism' was decidedly different from the European kind that was mostly extractive(though less by British who did contribute good things). US made some fatal flaws: Having Soviets enter North China and Korea, setting the grounds for Mao's victory and Korean war. Also, dividing Vietnam led to the war over there that was a total mess.

    But Japanese social, political, and economic gains after WWII were real. And there was, for a time, genuine cultural flowering. And South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore made great progress under US umbrella and by emulating US economic systems. And US was the great market/consumer of Asian-made products.

    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies. Chinese Communist model was even worse. Mao killed how many? 30 to 50 million. And in peacetime. And how much culture did he destroy. And then, there was Khmer Rouge, modeled on Maoism. What horror that was. Killing 2 out of 7 million for some mad social experiment. And North Korea makes 1984 sound like a gathering of Cato Institute.
    (And Japanese designs on Asia in the 30s were far more sinister than American imperialism.)

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia. That was during the Cold War when US was still ruled by Anglo-Americans elites and informed by Christian values and pride in European heritage.

    America really began to go wrong since end of Cold War. When it ended, Russia was no longer the enemy. It wanted to be friends. China had turned to market economy and just wanted to do business. China did move toward greater stake in Asia, but it is wholly understandable since it is the premier nation in Asia and had traditionally been such for 1000 yrs. So, rise of China as regional power was only natural.
    But US still acts in mode of Cold War politics and meddles too much in world affairs, especially when there are now so many problems at home in America itself, what with sinking middle class, white death, broken borders, decline of rule of law, fading of social/moral consensus, and cultural rot.

    And American culture went from Christian values and Euro-American identity to some shallow idiotic celebration of homosexuals, trannies, trashy rappers, porn stars, and shameless celebrities.
    American pop culture always had a salacious and shady side(esp since the Jazz Age), but now it is an open sewage and causes baleful harm to the world.
    How a nation with a culture so debased can go around talking about dignity, human rights, and etc to the rest of the world is beyond me. How did US become a nation that destroys businesses because they won't bake cakes for homo tying the knot?

    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch, they did have some sense of honor. Maybe not enough, but some. Also, there was a broad Anglo-American social reform movement that was especially critical of the Wasps who held the power.
    But the new masters, the Jewish globalists, are utterly without conscience when it comes to people outside the tribe. There are increasing number of Jewish critics of this Power that is spiraling out of control, but their voices are mostly ineffective.
    The rationale for American power is now totally surreal and nuts in Syria, Ukraine, and etc. US is acting like Nazis.

    And then, the problem of boomers taking power. Boomers emotionally failed to mature beyond their college yrs. (Millennials are of course worse.) Their sense of history and culture is shallow. They have no conviction or compass; they will say and do anything to get what's theirs. Clintons and Bushes and Obamas exemplify this utter rot. Just how did the Democratic Party become what it is?

    This is why we need to discern a historical break in discussing American power: Before Cold War and After Cold War. US did a lot of bad stuff in the Cold War, but overall, its power and influence were preferable to that of the other side and other alternatives. Francis Fuku may have over-stated his case, but he was half-right in claiming great victory for the Western Way.

    But with all the cultural rot and decadence that grew out of control since the rise of the boomers, American Global Power is one sick puppy. US is still great at science and technology, but its culture and politics are total shit. American elites are degenerate, and American masses have tattoos on their asses. What kind of a civilization is this?

    And even though Russia and China are hardly models of good governance --- they are dens of corruption and cronyism --- , they seem to be relatively sane when it comes to culture and politics. They don't worship people for being homo or tranny. And they don't seek global hegemony or invade/destroy entire nations for bogus nonsense about WMD or 'human rights'. A vile wench like Samantha Powers is a US phenom.

    .

    This drivel is what white people always say when they wreck another continent. Just white people romanticising the past.

    For the blacks who came here as slaves, whites will explain it away as “sure a lot of them died and we’re mistreated, but now blacks live in a modern country and have higher living standards than black Africans.

    With the red man, sure they are all almost extinct now, but we gave them civilization and medicine and technology. So it is justified. ETC etc.

    Interfering in other cultures the way white people do is never ok, whatever your perceived benefits are. Assassinating foreign leaders, promoting color revolutions, dividing countries, forcing the fiat dollar onto the east, all happened while the Wasp was in charge so quit blaming everything on the Jews.

    Japanese economic and social gains happened because of the Japanese, not because the white man gifted these things to Japan. The west actually neutered Japan when Japan started getting too powerfull in the 80′s. That’s what you get when you are too close to the west lol.

    What ever benefits the east got from the west could have been done voluntarily and peacefully, the honorable way. But the west chose to colonize the east and all that is coming to an end and Asians know the game.

    Blame it all on Jews if you want, but I thank them for helping to end the Wasp empire.

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    So how's live in apartheid, ethnically cleansed in Israel?

    BTW, there are more than 5.4 million American Indians in the US living off US taxpayers. Wow! Some "extinction" that is.

    But no doubt we're all forcing them to become the alcoholics they are. Ah yes, those casinos keep the enabling going.

    Speaking of slaves:
    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let's us know who the prime owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    see:
    Dr. Tony Martin - The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7I75Q_-zA
    and:
    http://wethoughttheywerewhite.weebly.com/jews--the-slave-trade.html
    , @annamaria
    "Japanese economic and social gains happened because of the Japanese, not because the white man gifted these things to Japan." - Correct.
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  15. Alden says:
    @Questionator
    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch

    It is unfair and inaccurate to characterize Anglo Saxons as "a devious bunch."

    Also, I beg you to avoid the term "Wasp." It is a racial slur used by globalist invaders to dehumanize core Americans and to whip up hatred against them.

    Glad you mentioned that WASP was invented as a slur against middle and upper class Protestants of British descent

    Of course the White middle class Protestants of British descent invented plenty of slurs against working class White Protestants of British descent: cracker, red neck, White trash, mill trash, hillbilly, backwoodsman, swamp Yankee and lint head. Lint head referred to textile mill workers who were covered with lint at end of shift.

    Dumb Swede, kraut, paddy, hunky, polac, dago dirty mick on and on a nasty name for every body.

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  16. Karl says:

    > How many of the uneducated products of the American education system even know Joseph Stalin, TS Eliot, Ezra Pound, Rimbaud or Irving Babbit?

    much better to ask if Petras has even ever BEEN to Mindanao, much less lived & did business there for a number of years.

    If you have never drank beers with the creme de la creme of Davao in Matina Town Center on a Saturday night, you might even get convinced that Philippines is about to start orbiting China.

    Does Petras even ever read the Makati newspapers? Believe me, the Filipinos understand that China isn’t any different than the Americans, imperialism wise.

    I didn’t know that Ron Unz would pay guys to re-presente old White Papers from Patrice Lamumba University. Now I know.

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    *Does Petras even ever read the Makati newspapers? Believe me, the Filipinos understand that China isn’t any different than the Americans, imperialism wise.*

    How could that be, if they really 'believe' that they'r just as brainwashed as the Murkkans.

    'Friendship' with Murkka entails military bases, arms sales, war 'games' that eventually leads to real wars.

    Friendship with China means trades, investments, infrastructures developments.

    Who should they choose ?
    A no brainer innit
    , @Anonymous
    You sound like the typical American expat in the Phillipines who doesn't give a crap about the average Phillipino.

    You only care about maintaining American hedgemony there so you can continue seeing cheap hookers and fear that China will increase the living standards there so the girls won't have to sleep with old fat toads like you.

    Nice try attempting to smear Unz and Petras but I'm not buying it. I just think you are too stupid and lazy to formulate a counter argument.

    There is actually a huge difference between American and Chinese hedgemony. Americans focus on winning and total dominance. The Chinese won't interfere with Dutertes drug war and won't bring up phony human rights arguments.
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  17. Persuasive and rather convincing analysis.

    However, I do fear that a violent dénouement will prove almost impossible to avoid. The strength and cohesion of an empire mainly resides in the threat of violence. State violence should therefore be used very judiciously, and above all, sparingly. Ideally, it should not be used over a protracted time period, such as during the VietNam war, or the Afghanistan tragedy. Paradoxically, every time violence is applied, its effectiveness is eroded. The Washington regime, guided by hubris and ignorance, has painted itself into a corner: in order to maintain its imperial credibility. it seems to have little choice but to unleash a major war. It is the only option left if it wants to try and retain its waning prestige.

    As for Duterte, I suspect he will die in an accident, or from some poison.

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    Priss, is there any concept that you believe can't be explained by movie clips?

    LOL!! Although, watching this Administration, one is reminded of the final frame of Charlyon the see-saw.

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  19. To Hans Vogel,

    The Washington regime, “guided by hubris & ignorance” has not unto itself “painted itself into a corner.”

    Soon as Middle East matters are taken care of according to Greater Israel geographical design, the lucrative T.P.P. arrangement, driven by very wealthy & powerful Israelis who will have the backing of U.S. military might, is ready “to roll.”

    The Israelis know China must be part of the pivot to Asia’s success, and they’re at work doing so. Refer to Jerusalem Post article, below?

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Netanyahu-meets-Chinas-Vice-Premier-opens-free-trade-talks-449562

    Thank you!

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    To Chuck Orloski

    For one, the Washington regime did not need any outside help in getting itself in its current predicament. Neither did the Soviet Union in the 1980s, the Nazi regime, or Napoleon III. Like individuals, states are perfectly able to ruin themselves, which they inevitably will if no one else beats them to it.

    I do not doubt for one minute that the Tel Aviv regime has designs of its own. However, I fail to see how Israel can survive in the medium and even short term. It is probably the only nation-state that has ethnicity, fortified by religiosity enshrined as its core value, at least it has recently been the most succesful doing so, while most other states will be branded "racist" for attempting the same. Yet multi-ethnicity and pluriformity are required for any modern state that wishes to project its power. The US, Russia, China, India, Brazil, South Africa, and the sad EU experiment are cases in point.

    An arrogant little nation state like Israel is just destined to be destroyed by an empire, if only because their interests will never truly coincide.
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  20. Between 1981 and 2008, the proportion of China’s population living on less than $1.25/day is estimated to have fallen from 85% to 13.1%, meaning that roughly 600 million people were taken out of poverty. Wikipedia

    According to Chinese Peoples Daily Oct.26,2016 roughly 54 million Chinese still live in poverty.

    Quick addition indicates that number equates closely to the number of Americans that were taken into poverty in the same time frame. Quo vadimus America.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

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  21. Excellent article. The conclusion is a special gem.

    In desperation, Washington may decide to resort to a military power grab- a coup in the Philippines, backed by a coalition of Manila-based oligarchs, narco-bosses and generals. The problem with a precipitate move to ‘regime change’ is that Rodrigo Duterte is immensely popular with the Philippine electorate…

    I’m amazed that Duterte hasn’t been knocked off yet. That’s what often happens to popular leaders and the guy is popular. However, he’s no dummy; he’s a lot smarter than O-bomb-a, Kerry and the Hillabeast all rolled into one. I also suspect he’s quite popular with the police forces and military both of which are typically very nationalistic and very “macho.” They’re no doubt enjoying every minute of spitting in the bully’s face. (Yes, I do realize that all it takes to get someone snuffed is a few well placed dollars.)

    Also, I wouldn’t underestimate “Asians.” They are generally beautiful people and have discipline and patience unknown to the consistently clueless “Westerners,” but it ain’t smart to piss ‘em off. You’d think that ‘Merkins would have learned from the experience in Vietnam where the people endured against overwhelming odds.

    The article is also valuable for pointing out that economic warfare goes on for a while before the military options kick in. Today’s US “leadership” seems to be applying economic pressure to its competitors in ways not unlike the ways the US militarists applied pressure to Japan prior to the war in the Pacific and Great Britain applied pressure to its American colonies prior to the war against Brit control. Another big problem is that China isn’t going to be as easy to roll over into a slave colony as resource poor Japan was.

    Also one would think the idiots would have a clue about being overextended, ala Napoleon.

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  22. @Anon
    "For over seventy years the US has dominated Asia, ravaging the continent with two major wars in Korea and Indo-China with millions of casualties, and multiple counter-insurgency interventions in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Timor, Myanmar, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The strategic goal has been to expand its military and political power, exploit the economies and resources and encircle China and North Korea."

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.

    Especially after World War II, American 'imperialism' was decidedly different from the European kind that was mostly extractive(though less by British who did contribute good things). US made some fatal flaws: Having Soviets enter North China and Korea, setting the grounds for Mao's victory and Korean war. Also, dividing Vietnam led to the war over there that was a total mess.

    But Japanese social, political, and economic gains after WWII were real. And there was, for a time, genuine cultural flowering. And South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore made great progress under US umbrella and by emulating US economic systems. And US was the great market/consumer of Asian-made products.

    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies. Chinese Communist model was even worse. Mao killed how many? 30 to 50 million. And in peacetime. And how much culture did he destroy. And then, there was Khmer Rouge, modeled on Maoism. What horror that was. Killing 2 out of 7 million for some mad social experiment. And North Korea makes 1984 sound like a gathering of Cato Institute.
    (And Japanese designs on Asia in the 30s were far more sinister than American imperialism.)

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia. That was during the Cold War when US was still ruled by Anglo-Americans elites and informed by Christian values and pride in European heritage.

    America really began to go wrong since end of Cold War. When it ended, Russia was no longer the enemy. It wanted to be friends. China had turned to market economy and just wanted to do business. China did move toward greater stake in Asia, but it is wholly understandable since it is the premier nation in Asia and had traditionally been such for 1000 yrs. So, rise of China as regional power was only natural.
    But US still acts in mode of Cold War politics and meddles too much in world affairs, especially when there are now so many problems at home in America itself, what with sinking middle class, white death, broken borders, decline of rule of law, fading of social/moral consensus, and cultural rot.

    And American culture went from Christian values and Euro-American identity to some shallow idiotic celebration of homosexuals, trannies, trashy rappers, porn stars, and shameless celebrities.
    American pop culture always had a salacious and shady side(esp since the Jazz Age), but now it is an open sewage and causes baleful harm to the world.
    How a nation with a culture so debased can go around talking about dignity, human rights, and etc to the rest of the world is beyond me. How did US become a nation that destroys businesses because they won't bake cakes for homo tying the knot?

    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch, they did have some sense of honor. Maybe not enough, but some. Also, there was a broad Anglo-American social reform movement that was especially critical of the Wasps who held the power.
    But the new masters, the Jewish globalists, are utterly without conscience when it comes to people outside the tribe. There are increasing number of Jewish critics of this Power that is spiraling out of control, but their voices are mostly ineffective.
    The rationale for American power is now totally surreal and nuts in Syria, Ukraine, and etc. US is acting like Nazis.

    And then, the problem of boomers taking power. Boomers emotionally failed to mature beyond their college yrs. (Millennials are of course worse.) Their sense of history and culture is shallow. They have no conviction or compass; they will say and do anything to get what's theirs. Clintons and Bushes and Obamas exemplify this utter rot. Just how did the Democratic Party become what it is?

    This is why we need to discern a historical break in discussing American power: Before Cold War and After Cold War. US did a lot of bad stuff in the Cold War, but overall, its power and influence were preferable to that of the other side and other alternatives. Francis Fuku may have over-stated his case, but he was half-right in claiming great victory for the Western Way.

    But with all the cultural rot and decadence that grew out of control since the rise of the boomers, American Global Power is one sick puppy. US is still great at science and technology, but its culture and politics are total shit. American elites are degenerate, and American masses have tattoos on their asses. What kind of a civilization is this?

    And even though Russia and China are hardly models of good governance --- they are dens of corruption and cronyism --- , they seem to be relatively sane when it comes to culture and politics. They don't worship people for being homo or tranny. And they don't seek global hegemony or invade/destroy entire nations for bogus nonsense about WMD or 'human rights'. A vile wench like Samantha Powers is a US phenom.

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.

    I hope you don’t imagine that all that was due to ‘Merkin altruism.

    I would bet that a good case could be made that all the “flowering” would have taken place sooner if the US militarists had stayed home instead.

    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies.

    Guess who/what supported those Soviets to the max.

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia.

    Far from perfect? You gotta be kidding. The “American modeL?” Gimmee a break. Why apologize for mass murder and a pompous “Merkin boot heel on their faces?

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  23. @Wally
    Stalin?

    Oh, I remember.

    He was the guy that the NY Times praised, supported, and to this day still deflects criticism of.

    Yup, and he and his unloved buddy, Lenin were responsible for the murder of millions before the US decided to recognize, appease and support the blood soaked USSR.

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  24. Believe me, the Filipinos understand that China isn’t any different than the Americans, imperialism wise.

    Your points are superb and valid, but, sorry to generalize, Pinoys generally harbor a lot of resentment toward the Chinese because of their business practices, acumen and virtual economic hegemony, but the problem is that while the Pinoy in the street and the middle class ones may feel that way, the effective rulers of the Philippines are probably mostly of Chinese descent, and I have no doubt that they could be easily bought off in various ways by the Chinese leadership. Besides, whereas the ‘Merkins and other Western agents have used physical force to get their way, China hasn’t much of a record of it. In that case, it not hard to see who they’d prefer.

    All in all, this is a most interesting show, and it will provide a lot of entertainment for those of us able to sit on the sidelines. The situation is complex, and both Trump and the Hillabeast must be really nuts to willingly volunteer walk into such a pit, especially at their ages.

    I do, however, certainly hope the smug ones get their comeuppance.

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    > but the problem is that while the Pinoy in the street and the middle class ones may feel that way, the effective rulers of the Philippines are probably mostly of Chinese descent,

    holy shit. Another Nice Guy (tm) who doesn't even read the newspapers every single day.

    The Phils organs of State Security are now COMPLETELY in the hands of Duterte's boys that he brought up from Davao. And the Phils Army & PNP comprise quite a bit of manpower, pare.

    A lot of those guys, having been on the periphery all these years, never enjoyed the advantages of being buddies with the Americans up there in Luzon. The dumb americans, to this day, are STILL running their Zamboanga Special Forces out-camp via Manila Boys. This is why the East Coast intellectuals are in a panic. They can no longer handle the Filipinos by letting some Army generals in Camp Aguinaldo, have another go at a shopping trip to the Navy Exchange at Pearl Harbor.

    You cannot understand Duterte if you haven't been reading the Davao local newspapers for ten years.

    Can you even tell us, which one of his kids is now Mayor, without resorting to google?

    Would you even START to talk about Obama if you knew zero about his youth and his starts in Chicago?

    PS: The Phils Central BAnk is 100% officered - at the Executive level - by non-Chinese. And they have quite a lot of hard-currency & even bullion reserves. They can pick and choose when to borrow, possibly more so than the US Treasury can.

    , @Wizard of Oz
    Do you seriously think Filipinos regard China, right next door, as having less of a relevant record of using force to get its way than the US? They've overlooked Korea, threats to Taiwan, Tibet, the Uighurs, the starvation of their own in the Great Leap Forward, letting loose the Red Guard in the Cultural Revolution, invading India, invading Vietnam, Tianmen Square.... just for most of the highlights since 1949 when the Nationalists used force on the Taiwanese..??
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  25. Karl says:
    @jacques sheete

    Believe me, the Filipinos understand that China isn’t any different than the Americans, imperialism wise.
     
    Your points are superb and valid, but, sorry to generalize, Pinoys generally harbor a lot of resentment toward the Chinese because of their business practices, acumen and virtual economic hegemony, but the problem is that while the Pinoy in the street and the middle class ones may feel that way, the effective rulers of the Philippines are probably mostly of Chinese descent, and I have no doubt that they could be easily bought off in various ways by the Chinese leadership. Besides, whereas the 'Merkins and other Western agents have used physical force to get their way, China hasn't much of a record of it. In that case, it not hard to see who they'd prefer.

    All in all, this is a most interesting show, and it will provide a lot of entertainment for those of us able to sit on the sidelines. The situation is complex, and both Trump and the Hillabeast must be really nuts to willingly volunteer walk into such a pit, especially at their ages.

    I do, however, certainly hope the smug ones get their comeuppance.

    > but the problem is that while the Pinoy in the street and the middle class ones may feel that way, the effective rulers of the Philippines are probably mostly of Chinese descent,

    holy shit. Another Nice Guy ™ who doesn’t even read the newspapers every single day.

    The Phils organs of State Security are now COMPLETELY in the hands of Duterte’s boys that he brought up from Davao. And the Phils Army & PNP comprise quite a bit of manpower, pare.

    A lot of those guys, having been on the periphery all these years, never enjoyed the advantages of being buddies with the Americans up there in Luzon. The dumb americans, to this day, are STILL running their Zamboanga Special Forces out-camp via Manila Boys. This is why the East Coast intellectuals are in a panic. They can no longer handle the Filipinos by letting some Army generals in Camp Aguinaldo, have another go at a shopping trip to the Navy Exchange at Pearl Harbor.

    You cannot understand Duterte if you haven’t been reading the Davao local newspapers for ten years.

    Can you even tell us, which one of his kids is now Mayor, without resorting to google?

    Would you even START to talk about Obama if you knew zero about his youth and his starts in Chicago?

    PS: The Phils Central BAnk is 100% officered – at the Executive level – by non-Chinese. And they have quite a lot of hard-currency & even bullion reserves. They can pick and choose when to borrow, possibly more so than the US Treasury can.

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    The Phils organs of State Security are now COMPLETELY in the hands of Duterte’s boys that he brought up from Davao. And the Phils Army & PNP comprise quite a bit of manpower, pare.
     
    I think we agree on that point, for sure.

    See what I wrote, above?


    I’m amazed that Duterte hasn’t been knocked off yet. That’s what often happens to popular leaders and the guy is popular. However, he’s no dummy; he’s a lot smarter than O-bomb-a, Kerry and the Hillabeast all rolled into one. I also suspect he’s quite popular with the police forces and military both of which are typically very nationalistic and very “macho.” They’re no doubt enjoying every minute of spitting in the bully’s face. (Yes, I do realize that all it takes to get someone snuffed is a few well placed dollars.)
     
    One doesn't have to read the newspapers every day to keep up with what's likely going on.

    Over the foreign powers I am convinced they will triumph completely, & I cannot but hope that that triumph, & the consequent disgrace of the invading tyrants, is destined, in the order of events, to kindle the wrath of the people of Europe against those who have dared to embroil them in such wickedness, and to bring at length, kings, nobles, & priests to the scaffolds which they have been so long deluging with human blood. I am still warm whenever I think of these scoundrels, tho I do it as seldom as I can, preferring infinitely to contemplate the tranquil growth of my lucerne & potatoes. I have so completely withdrawn myself from these spectacles of usurpation & misrule, that I do not take a single newspaper, nor read one a month; & I feel myself infinitely the happier for it.

    Jefferson letter To Tench Coxe Monticello, May 1, 1794
    http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/presidents/thomas-jefferson/letters-of-thomas-jefferson/jefl107.php
     

    Pretty koool how some things hardly change at all, no?
    , @jacques sheete

    You cannot understand Duterte if you haven’t been reading the Davao local newspapers for ten years.
     
    I'd be interested in being introduced to some proof for that claim.

    On the other hand, I wrote this,


    I also suspect he’s quite popular with the police forces and military both of which are typically very nationalistic and very “macho.” They’re no doubt enjoying every minute of spitting in the bully’s face.
     
    and you say I don't understand Duterte (and the National Police or the Manlia Police) for that matter? Well, I may not understand them completely, but I bet I'm not far off the mark on many of them.

    Anyway, I'm only here to learn some stuff and to add my two cents. I'm not going to get into some hair splitting pi$$ing contest arguing about who's right or wrong, cuz either way I have little at stake, least of all my ego. Besides, I neither claim to know it all and even if I did I wouldn't presume to have the final answer if there is one, either.

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  26. Rehmat says:

    Barack Obama, Hillary and Ashton Carter are three ‘Kosher Goyim’. They support TPP, because it will serve Israeli interests.

    The so-called Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) has nothing to do with establishing trade partnership with foreign countries. It’s a political bill authored by AIPAC to protect illegal Jewish settlements by forbidding signatories of TPP to boycott Israeli goods.

    The bill with its hidden clauses gives the US president the power to negotiate the TPP trade deal without public scrutiny – require the president make combatting any boycott of the Zionist entity a principle trade objective and would require the president to report to Congress on any business that are participating in such boycotts. Watch a video below in which a US official explains TPP’s ‘secret clauses’.

    Interestingly, the language of the bill specially includes “territories controlled by the state of Israel” – that is, territories occupied by the Jewish army during June 1967, which no country in world including United States, recognizes as part of Israel.

    On June 29, 2015, Israel-First Congressman Peter Roskam boasted on his website: “This is an historic milestone in the fight against Israel’s enemies, as American opposition to insidious efforts to demonize and isolate the Jewish state is now the law of the land. The bipartisan bill enacted today conditions any free trade agreement with the European Union on its rejection of BDS. This will force companies like telecom giant Orange, which is partially owned by the French government, to think twice before engaging in economic warfare against Israel. No longer will these companies be able to freely attack a key U.S. ally without consequence. Nevertheless, what we accomplished today is just the beginning. As the BDS movement continues to evolve, so too must our response. I look forward to working with my colleagues to ensure the U.S.-Israel relationship remains strong now and in the future.”

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/07/28/tpp-serves-israels-interests/

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    Here we are: "Roskam has been one of the most outspoken voices in the House against Iran's nuclear weapons programs...On September 21, 2006, Roskam said that the U.S. should "stay the course" and that U.S. troops should not return home until Iraq is safe."
    And the inevitable for the noisy hypocrite: "Rep. Roskam and his wife took a trip to Taiwan sponsored by the Taiwanese government, violating federal law and House rules."
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  27. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Without total US control over the Philippines, Washington’s strategic arc of encirclement against China is broken.

    They can still depend on the THAAD to keep China and its capital in their crosshairs, at least so long as they don’t alienate South Korea.

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    It will be interesting to see exactly how the Big Money crowd drives a wedge between Duterte and any potential allies, and undermines him at every turn.

    I do wish Duterte Godspeed tho, and I simply don't understand the Pinoys who do not support him and I know many of them.
    , @denk
    Now that Ph refuse to play ball with uncle scam in its 'Asia pivot' boondoggle, u'd think murkka would pack up and go home,

    uncle scam sez,
    *Not on your life !*

    *US to Go Beyond THAAD Deployment in S Korea if N Korea Threat Persists*

    Everybody and his dog should know the drill by now...

    The next thing you know, murkka , Sk would poke Nk and provoke a reaction,'

    That might not even be necessary, Nk would prolly step up to the plate by itself with another missile test, complete with a warning to 'wipe out murkka, Jp'.

    Hey presto, uncle scam gets another carte blanche to push more wmd at China's doorstep.

    Nk, just like the 'al qaeda', isis etc,
    the gift that keeps on giving.

    https://sputniknews.com/asia/201610281046822918-us-korea-thaad-threat/#comments
    , @anon_the_nth

    They can still depend on the THAAD to keep China and its capital in their crosshairs, at least so long as they don’t alienate South Korea.

     

    THAAD in Korea is bypassed as rockets to USA would fly more over Mongolia and Russia, not over South Korea due to earth curvature.
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  28. Someone made an excellent point. If the US military dominance of east Asia is what allowed regional prosperity, then why hasn’t the Caribbean prospered?

    Pure ethnic Chinese are some 2% of Filipinos, but nearly half have some Chinese blood. Chinese-Pinoys control around 40% of Filipino businesses.

    It is obvious to all Asians that the USA is controlled by warmongering, reckless, arrogant fools who might start a war with China, and the Philippines doesn’t want to end up in the middle of a senseless shooting gallery.

    I expect South Korea will also declare neutrality and kick the US military out, as explained here.

    http://www.g2mil.com/casey.htm

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  29. @Karl
    > but the problem is that while the Pinoy in the street and the middle class ones may feel that way, the effective rulers of the Philippines are probably mostly of Chinese descent,

    holy shit. Another Nice Guy (tm) who doesn't even read the newspapers every single day.

    The Phils organs of State Security are now COMPLETELY in the hands of Duterte's boys that he brought up from Davao. And the Phils Army & PNP comprise quite a bit of manpower, pare.

    A lot of those guys, having been on the periphery all these years, never enjoyed the advantages of being buddies with the Americans up there in Luzon. The dumb americans, to this day, are STILL running their Zamboanga Special Forces out-camp via Manila Boys. This is why the East Coast intellectuals are in a panic. They can no longer handle the Filipinos by letting some Army generals in Camp Aguinaldo, have another go at a shopping trip to the Navy Exchange at Pearl Harbor.

    You cannot understand Duterte if you haven't been reading the Davao local newspapers for ten years.

    Can you even tell us, which one of his kids is now Mayor, without resorting to google?

    Would you even START to talk about Obama if you knew zero about his youth and his starts in Chicago?

    PS: The Phils Central BAnk is 100% officered - at the Executive level - by non-Chinese. And they have quite a lot of hard-currency & even bullion reserves. They can pick and choose when to borrow, possibly more so than the US Treasury can.

    The Phils organs of State Security are now COMPLETELY in the hands of Duterte’s boys that he brought up from Davao. And the Phils Army & PNP comprise quite a bit of manpower, pare.

    I think we agree on that point, for sure.

    See what I wrote, above?

    I’m amazed that Duterte hasn’t been knocked off yet. That’s what often happens to popular leaders and the guy is popular. However, he’s no dummy; he’s a lot smarter than O-bomb-a, Kerry and the Hillabeast all rolled into one. I also suspect he’s quite popular with the police forces and military both of which are typically very nationalistic and very “macho.” They’re no doubt enjoying every minute of spitting in the bully’s face. (Yes, I do realize that all it takes to get someone snuffed is a few well placed dollars.)

    One doesn’t have to read the newspapers every day to keep up with what’s likely going on.

    Over the foreign powers I am convinced they will triumph completely, & I cannot but hope that that triumph, & the consequent disgrace of the invading tyrants, is destined, in the order of events, to kindle the wrath of the people of Europe against those who have dared to embroil them in such wickedness, and to bring at length, kings, nobles, & priests to the scaffolds which they have been so long deluging with human blood. I am still warm whenever I think of these scoundrels, tho I do it as seldom as I can, preferring infinitely to contemplate the tranquil growth of my lucerne & potatoes. I have so completely withdrawn myself from these spectacles of usurpation & misrule, that I do not take a single newspaper, nor read one a month; & I feel myself infinitely the happier for it.

    Jefferson letter To Tench Coxe Monticello, May 1, 1794

    http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/presidents/thomas-jefferson/letters-of-thomas-jefferson/jefl107.php

    Pretty koool how some things hardly change at all, no?

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  30. @Karl
    > but the problem is that while the Pinoy in the street and the middle class ones may feel that way, the effective rulers of the Philippines are probably mostly of Chinese descent,

    holy shit. Another Nice Guy (tm) who doesn't even read the newspapers every single day.

    The Phils organs of State Security are now COMPLETELY in the hands of Duterte's boys that he brought up from Davao. And the Phils Army & PNP comprise quite a bit of manpower, pare.

    A lot of those guys, having been on the periphery all these years, never enjoyed the advantages of being buddies with the Americans up there in Luzon. The dumb americans, to this day, are STILL running their Zamboanga Special Forces out-camp via Manila Boys. This is why the East Coast intellectuals are in a panic. They can no longer handle the Filipinos by letting some Army generals in Camp Aguinaldo, have another go at a shopping trip to the Navy Exchange at Pearl Harbor.

    You cannot understand Duterte if you haven't been reading the Davao local newspapers for ten years.

    Can you even tell us, which one of his kids is now Mayor, without resorting to google?

    Would you even START to talk about Obama if you knew zero about his youth and his starts in Chicago?

    PS: The Phils Central BAnk is 100% officered - at the Executive level - by non-Chinese. And they have quite a lot of hard-currency & even bullion reserves. They can pick and choose when to borrow, possibly more so than the US Treasury can.

    You cannot understand Duterte if you haven’t been reading the Davao local newspapers for ten years.

    I’d be interested in being introduced to some proof for that claim.

    On the other hand, I wrote this,

    I also suspect he’s quite popular with the police forces and military both of which are typically very nationalistic and very “macho.” They’re no doubt enjoying every minute of spitting in the bully’s face.

    and you say I don’t understand Duterte (and the National Police or the Manlia Police) for that matter? Well, I may not understand them completely, but I bet I’m not far off the mark on many of them.

    Anyway, I’m only here to learn some stuff and to add my two cents. I’m not going to get into some hair splitting pi$$ing contest arguing about who’s right or wrong, cuz either way I have little at stake, least of all my ego. Besides, I neither claim to know it all and even if I did I wouldn’t presume to have the final answer if there is one, either.

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  31. @Anonymous

    Without total US control over the Philippines, Washington’s strategic arc of encirclement against China is broken.
     
    They can still depend on the THAAD to keep China and its capital in their crosshairs, at least so long as they don't alienate South Korea.

    It will be interesting to see exactly how the Big Money crowd drives a wedge between Duterte and any potential allies, and undermines him at every turn.

    I do wish Duterte Godspeed tho, and I simply don’t understand the Pinoys who do not support him and I know many of them.

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  32. In a way I feel for the goons who run the US for the Big money crowd. If the goons don’t manage the US to play globocop on their paymasters’ behalf, then the Big Money ghouls’ll switch allegiance in a snap and toss the US under the bus. I think I see some glimmers of that happening as we speak, but that could be mere wishful thinking.

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  33. Biff says:
    @Anon
    "For over seventy years the US has dominated Asia, ravaging the continent with two major wars in Korea and Indo-China with millions of casualties, and multiple counter-insurgency interventions in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Timor, Myanmar, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The strategic goal has been to expand its military and political power, exploit the economies and resources and encircle China and North Korea."

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.

    Especially after World War II, American 'imperialism' was decidedly different from the European kind that was mostly extractive(though less by British who did contribute good things). US made some fatal flaws: Having Soviets enter North China and Korea, setting the grounds for Mao's victory and Korean war. Also, dividing Vietnam led to the war over there that was a total mess.

    But Japanese social, political, and economic gains after WWII were real. And there was, for a time, genuine cultural flowering. And South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore made great progress under US umbrella and by emulating US economic systems. And US was the great market/consumer of Asian-made products.

    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies. Chinese Communist model was even worse. Mao killed how many? 30 to 50 million. And in peacetime. And how much culture did he destroy. And then, there was Khmer Rouge, modeled on Maoism. What horror that was. Killing 2 out of 7 million for some mad social experiment. And North Korea makes 1984 sound like a gathering of Cato Institute.
    (And Japanese designs on Asia in the 30s were far more sinister than American imperialism.)

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia. That was during the Cold War when US was still ruled by Anglo-Americans elites and informed by Christian values and pride in European heritage.

    America really began to go wrong since end of Cold War. When it ended, Russia was no longer the enemy. It wanted to be friends. China had turned to market economy and just wanted to do business. China did move toward greater stake in Asia, but it is wholly understandable since it is the premier nation in Asia and had traditionally been such for 1000 yrs. So, rise of China as regional power was only natural.
    But US still acts in mode of Cold War politics and meddles too much in world affairs, especially when there are now so many problems at home in America itself, what with sinking middle class, white death, broken borders, decline of rule of law, fading of social/moral consensus, and cultural rot.

    And American culture went from Christian values and Euro-American identity to some shallow idiotic celebration of homosexuals, trannies, trashy rappers, porn stars, and shameless celebrities.
    American pop culture always had a salacious and shady side(esp since the Jazz Age), but now it is an open sewage and causes baleful harm to the world.
    How a nation with a culture so debased can go around talking about dignity, human rights, and etc to the rest of the world is beyond me. How did US become a nation that destroys businesses because they won't bake cakes for homo tying the knot?

    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch, they did have some sense of honor. Maybe not enough, but some. Also, there was a broad Anglo-American social reform movement that was especially critical of the Wasps who held the power.
    But the new masters, the Jewish globalists, are utterly without conscience when it comes to people outside the tribe. There are increasing number of Jewish critics of this Power that is spiraling out of control, but their voices are mostly ineffective.
    The rationale for American power is now totally surreal and nuts in Syria, Ukraine, and etc. US is acting like Nazis.

    And then, the problem of boomers taking power. Boomers emotionally failed to mature beyond their college yrs. (Millennials are of course worse.) Their sense of history and culture is shallow. They have no conviction or compass; they will say and do anything to get what's theirs. Clintons and Bushes and Obamas exemplify this utter rot. Just how did the Democratic Party become what it is?

    This is why we need to discern a historical break in discussing American power: Before Cold War and After Cold War. US did a lot of bad stuff in the Cold War, but overall, its power and influence were preferable to that of the other side and other alternatives. Francis Fuku may have over-stated his case, but he was half-right in claiming great victory for the Western Way.

    But with all the cultural rot and decadence that grew out of control since the rise of the boomers, American Global Power is one sick puppy. US is still great at science and technology, but its culture and politics are total shit. American elites are degenerate, and American masses have tattoos on their asses. What kind of a civilization is this?

    And even though Russia and China are hardly models of good governance --- they are dens of corruption and cronyism --- , they seem to be relatively sane when it comes to culture and politics. They don't worship people for being homo or tranny. And they don't seek global hegemony or invade/destroy entire nations for bogus nonsense about WMD or 'human rights'. A vile wench like Samantha Powers is a US phenom.

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia.

    So says some shmuck on the Internet.

    For thousands of years Power and wealth have been concentrated in the hands of the few. Voting and democracy hasn’t changed that at all, but what it has done is give war, murder, theft, and rape more of a legitimate air to it – “It was the will of the people”

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  34. I am pleased Rehmat entered this exchange and provided learned reflections.

    For quite some time, even U.S. Congressmen could only get a background check, either “pass or fail,” afterward make an appointment to read T.P.P., and were prohibited to make photocopies of the secret agreement for further perusal.

    Not once during Trump & Hillary debates did either candidate precisely express why they did not favor the T.P.P. Of course each debate moderator (obfuscator?) gave them a “pass” on this very important “trade” matter involving how 21st Century humanity shall “buy and sell.”

    (Note: As typical for U.S.-Zionist elections, it’s the carefully managed debate questions & c0andidate answers that inevitably come back to BITE people)

    However much I respect Mr. Petras’s attempt to educate American citizens as to what’s going on, it’s a very open secret as to the ongoing T.P.P. higher education curriculum going in between Israelis and Chinese.

    At present, & as “Millennials” pay astronomical college tuition bills, people should recognize that even the best Universities do NOT stand above the axiom, “Follow the Money.” Refer to Jerusalem Post article below?

    http://www.jpost.com/Business-and-Innovation/Israeli-and-Chinese-universities-to-establish-entrepreneurship-center-449862

    Thank you.

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    The phony "debates" are BS sessions. I don't know anyone who actually expects to learn something from those twisted LSM platforms. If you want to know Trump's position on TPP you can read it on his website. He thinks it is our politicians and corporate oligarchs selling out the amerikan worker. He also said this in his book, "Crippled America".
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  35. Joe Wong says:
    @Anon
    The crazy logic of imperialism.

    Romans sought more dominance and glory abroad via expansion even as their home base in Italy was deteriorating.

    US cannot protect its borders, and its core population, the whites, are totally demoralized or demented by PC and Pop Culture, and yet, there is so much imperial ambition abroad in Asia, Middle East, North Africa, Ukraine, Russia, etc.
    It's like a man so addicted to gaining new fortunes or seeking new adventures by wandering around that he fails to notice or doesn't care that his family is starving.
    Like the guy in The Swimmer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpe46BtVVoM

    But from a political viewpoint, this is understandable. US government can act dictatorial and 'big' in foreign policy whereas it is up against more obstacles, legal and political, at home. It's like Nixon paid increasingly more attention to foreign policy since he found domestic politics so frustration.

    Btw, I don't think US is trying to dominate China. US is well-aware that its provocations will make China build up its military even faster.
    US wants this because it could then use the 'fear of China' among the smaller Asian nations that will come to US as savior. US gets to keep its dogs scared of the Chinese wolf.

    And China could be overplaying its role as rival of the US. It has huge financial problems(bigger than America), and more partners under its trade umbreall could also mean more drain on resources. After all, a lot of nations came on-board with what amounts to trade-bribes.
    Consider how BRICS turned out to be a mess. Does China and Russia really want to be involved too directly with Brazil, India, and especially South Africa?
    US and EU may have big problems, but rest of the world are a bigger mess. Look at Venezuela.

    Is US looking for direct confrontation with China? I don't think so. I think it is using tensions to keep smaller Asian nations in US orbit for protection.

    Same thing in Europe. I don't think Hillary and Co. want war with Russia. No one wants to be responsible for 10s of millions of dead, even if the war could be won.
    Rather, the anti-Russian tensions is to draw European nations closer to the US and keep them there.
    It's like in the movie THE VILLAGE. Use the monster-scare-tactics to keep the community close.

    The long-term plan for Russian collapse isn't military. It is economic. Via sanctions and forcing Russia to spend more on military, US hopes to bankrupt Russia to the point of decline and destruction. It's Reaganism Redux. Outspend them and make them spend and spend until they can't anymore.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZSk48cYCKk

    “US hopes to bankrupt Russia to the point of decline and destruction. It’s Reaganism Redux. Outspend them and make them spend and spend until they can’t anymore.” reflects the American psycho stuck in a 1980’s time-warped vision of world view with a mindset belonging to the past, stalled in the old days colonialism and constrained by the zero-sum cold war mentality like a ‘God-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘inquisitor’.

    The reality is the USA’s economy is declining and its national debt is sky rocketing out of control, 20 trillions at the moment, while Russia has a steady economic growth with a comfortable foreign exchange reserve. USA is spending on military uncontrollably, pretty soon the USA will implode like the USSR as the “Reaganism Redux” chickens come home to roost.

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  36. @Chuck Orloski
    To Hans Vogel,

    The Washington regime, "guided by hubris & ignorance" has not unto itself "painted itself into a corner."

    Soon as Middle East matters are taken care of according to Greater Israel geographical design, the lucrative T.P.P. arrangement, driven by very wealthy & powerful Israelis who will have the backing of U.S. military might, is ready "to roll."

    The Israelis know China must be part of the pivot to Asia's success, and they're at work doing so. Refer to Jerusalem Post article, below?

    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Netanyahu-meets-Chinas-Vice-Premier-opens-free-trade-talks-449562

    Thank you!

    To Chuck Orloski

    For one, the Washington regime did not need any outside help in getting itself in its current predicament. Neither did the Soviet Union in the 1980s, the Nazi regime, or Napoleon III. Like individuals, states are perfectly able to ruin themselves, which they inevitably will if no one else beats them to it.

    I do not doubt for one minute that the Tel Aviv regime has designs of its own. However, I fail to see how Israel can survive in the medium and even short term. It is probably the only nation-state that has ethnicity, fortified by religiosity enshrined as its core value, at least it has recently been the most succesful doing so, while most other states will be branded “racist” for attempting the same. Yet multi-ethnicity and pluriformity are required for any modern state that wishes to project its power. The US, Russia, China, India, Brazil, South Africa, and the sad EU experiment are cases in point.

    An arrogant little nation state like Israel is just destined to be destroyed by an empire, if only because their interests will never truly coincide.

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  37. denk says:
    @Karl
    > How many of the uneducated products of the American education system even know Joseph Stalin, TS Eliot, Ezra Pound, Rimbaud or Irving Babbit?

    much better to ask if Petras has even ever BEEN to Mindanao, much less lived & did business there for a number of years.

    If you have never drank beers with the creme de la creme of Davao in Matina Town Center on a Saturday night, you might even get convinced that Philippines is about to start orbiting China.

    Does Petras even ever read the Makati newspapers? Believe me, the Filipinos understand that China isn't any different than the Americans, imperialism wise.

    I didn't know that Ron Unz would pay guys to re-presente old White Papers from Patrice Lamumba University. Now I know.

    *Does Petras even ever read the Makati newspapers? Believe me, the Filipinos understand that China isn’t any different than the Americans, imperialism wise.*

    How could that be, if they really ‘believe’ that they’r just as brainwashed as the Murkkans.

    ‘Friendship’ with Murkka entails military bases, arms sales, war ‘games’ that eventually leads to real wars.

    Friendship with China means trades, investments, infrastructures developments.

    Who should they choose ?
    A no brainer innit

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  38. denk says:
    @Anonymous

    Without total US control over the Philippines, Washington’s strategic arc of encirclement against China is broken.
     
    They can still depend on the THAAD to keep China and its capital in their crosshairs, at least so long as they don't alienate South Korea.

    Now that Ph refuse to play ball with uncle scam in its ‘Asia pivot’ boondoggle, u’d think murkka would pack up and go home,

    uncle scam sez,
    *Not on your life !*

    *US to Go Beyond THAAD Deployment in S Korea if N Korea Threat Persists*

    Everybody and his dog should know the drill by now…

    The next thing you know, murkka , Sk would poke Nk and provoke a reaction,’

    That might not even be necessary, Nk would prolly step up to the plate by itself with another missile test, complete with a warning to ‘wipe out murkka, Jp’.

    Hey presto, uncle scam gets another carte blanche to push more wmd at China’s doorstep.

    Nk, just like the ‘al qaeda’, isis etc,
    the gift that keeps on giving.

    https://sputniknews.com/asia/201610281046822918-us-korea-thaad-threat/#comments

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  39. Sean says:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-navarro-and-greg-autry/mearsheimer-on-strangling_b_9417476.html

    And when countries like China see the United States pivoting to Asia, and they see what our record looks like in terms of using military force since 1989. And when they think about the history of US-Chinese relations, when they think about the Open Door policy and how we exploited China in the early part of the 20th century. And when they think about the Korean War – most Americans don’t realize this, but we were not fighting the North Koreans during the Korean War, we were fighting the Chinese from 1950 to 1953. We had a major war, not with the Soviet Union during the Cold War, but with China. China remembers all these things. So they do not view the United States as a benign hegemon. They view the United States as a very dangerous foe that is moving more and more forces to Asia and is forming close alliances with China’s neighbors. From Beijing’s point of view, this is a terrible situation. [...]

    So the United States is an incredibly secure country; and one can make a quite persuasive argument that, even if China dominates Asia, it’s not going to affect the United States in any meaningful way.

    My view is that there’s one powerful counter to that argument; and it’s the main argument again isolationism; and it says that if China dominates all of Asia, if it’s a regional hegemon, it is then free to roam around the world much the way the United States, as a regional hegemon, is free to roam around the world.

    Most Americans don’t think about this, but the reason that the United States is wandering all over God’s little green acre, sticking its nose in everybody’s business, is because we are free to roam. We have no threats in the Western Hemisphere that pin us down.

    Now if China is free to roam because it’s a potential hegemon, it can roam into the Western Hemisphere. It can develop friendly relations with a country like Brazil or country like Mexico. It could put a naval base in Brazil much the way the Soviets were putting troops in Cuba, right?

    So what the United States fears about China dominating Asia is the possibility that it will not invade the United States, but that it will move into the Western Hemisphere, form a close alliance with a country like Brazil or Cuba or Mexico, and become a threat to the United States from inside the Hemisphere.

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  40. Joe Wong says:
    @Anon
    "For over seventy years the US has dominated Asia, ravaging the continent with two major wars in Korea and Indo-China with millions of casualties, and multiple counter-insurgency interventions in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Timor, Myanmar, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The strategic goal has been to expand its military and political power, exploit the economies and resources and encircle China and North Korea."

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.

    Especially after World War II, American 'imperialism' was decidedly different from the European kind that was mostly extractive(though less by British who did contribute good things). US made some fatal flaws: Having Soviets enter North China and Korea, setting the grounds for Mao's victory and Korean war. Also, dividing Vietnam led to the war over there that was a total mess.

    But Japanese social, political, and economic gains after WWII were real. And there was, for a time, genuine cultural flowering. And South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore made great progress under US umbrella and by emulating US economic systems. And US was the great market/consumer of Asian-made products.

    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies. Chinese Communist model was even worse. Mao killed how many? 30 to 50 million. And in peacetime. And how much culture did he destroy. And then, there was Khmer Rouge, modeled on Maoism. What horror that was. Killing 2 out of 7 million for some mad social experiment. And North Korea makes 1984 sound like a gathering of Cato Institute.
    (And Japanese designs on Asia in the 30s were far more sinister than American imperialism.)

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia. That was during the Cold War when US was still ruled by Anglo-Americans elites and informed by Christian values and pride in European heritage.

    America really began to go wrong since end of Cold War. When it ended, Russia was no longer the enemy. It wanted to be friends. China had turned to market economy and just wanted to do business. China did move toward greater stake in Asia, but it is wholly understandable since it is the premier nation in Asia and had traditionally been such for 1000 yrs. So, rise of China as regional power was only natural.
    But US still acts in mode of Cold War politics and meddles too much in world affairs, especially when there are now so many problems at home in America itself, what with sinking middle class, white death, broken borders, decline of rule of law, fading of social/moral consensus, and cultural rot.

    And American culture went from Christian values and Euro-American identity to some shallow idiotic celebration of homosexuals, trannies, trashy rappers, porn stars, and shameless celebrities.
    American pop culture always had a salacious and shady side(esp since the Jazz Age), but now it is an open sewage and causes baleful harm to the world.
    How a nation with a culture so debased can go around talking about dignity, human rights, and etc to the rest of the world is beyond me. How did US become a nation that destroys businesses because they won't bake cakes for homo tying the knot?

    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch, they did have some sense of honor. Maybe not enough, but some. Also, there was a broad Anglo-American social reform movement that was especially critical of the Wasps who held the power.
    But the new masters, the Jewish globalists, are utterly without conscience when it comes to people outside the tribe. There are increasing number of Jewish critics of this Power that is spiraling out of control, but their voices are mostly ineffective.
    The rationale for American power is now totally surreal and nuts in Syria, Ukraine, and etc. US is acting like Nazis.

    And then, the problem of boomers taking power. Boomers emotionally failed to mature beyond their college yrs. (Millennials are of course worse.) Their sense of history and culture is shallow. They have no conviction or compass; they will say and do anything to get what's theirs. Clintons and Bushes and Obamas exemplify this utter rot. Just how did the Democratic Party become what it is?

    This is why we need to discern a historical break in discussing American power: Before Cold War and After Cold War. US did a lot of bad stuff in the Cold War, but overall, its power and influence were preferable to that of the other side and other alternatives. Francis Fuku may have over-stated his case, but he was half-right in claiming great victory for the Western Way.

    But with all the cultural rot and decadence that grew out of control since the rise of the boomers, American Global Power is one sick puppy. US is still great at science and technology, but its culture and politics are total shit. American elites are degenerate, and American masses have tattoos on their asses. What kind of a civilization is this?

    And even though Russia and China are hardly models of good governance --- they are dens of corruption and cronyism --- , they seem to be relatively sane when it comes to culture and politics. They don't worship people for being homo or tranny. And they don't seek global hegemony or invade/destroy entire nations for bogus nonsense about WMD or 'human rights'. A vile wench like Samantha Powers is a US phenom.

    American exceptionalism is claiming credit where credit is not due, and never take responsibility for its own deed by pointing fingers at the others, this retarded and toxic mentality promulgated from your comment.

    American sold their souls to the dark side of humanity by betraying their anti-fascist war allies and allying with the unrepentant war criminal Japanese in order to fill their greed and global full spectrum dominance imperialism.

    When the American was dominant in Pacific Asia, Pacific-Asia was plagued with wars, poverty, corruption, misery, chaos, destruction, conflicts, brutality, culture genocide, … When the American domination waned Pacific-Asia rejuvenated, prospered and grow to the point that the American is using “pivot-to-Asia” to destroy the peace and prosperity in Pacific-Asia.

    American is a negative and suffocating factor of Pacific-Asia’s peace, growth and prosperity. Without the presence of the American, the Western imperialists and their running dog the unrepentant war criminal Japanese, Pacific-Asia can do way better and way earlier.

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    Yeah the US is no picnic but you can blame imperial Japan for destroying any sense of Asian unity. The bad blood with Korea, the Philippines and China is far worse.
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  41. Wally says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anon.

    This drivel is what white people always say when they wreck another continent. Just white people romanticising the past.

    For the blacks who came here as slaves, whites will explain it away as "sure a lot of them died and we're mistreated, but now blacks live in a modern country and have higher living standards than black Africans.

    With the red man, sure they are all almost extinct now, but we gave them civilization and medicine and technology. So it is justified. ETC etc.

    Interfering in other cultures the way white people do is never ok, whatever your perceived benefits are. Assassinating foreign leaders, promoting color revolutions, dividing countries, forcing the fiat dollar onto the east, all happened while the Wasp was in charge so quit blaming everything on the Jews.

    Japanese economic and social gains happened because of the Japanese, not because the white man gifted these things to Japan. The west actually neutered Japan when Japan started getting too powerfull in the 80's. That's what you get when you are too close to the west lol.

    What ever benefits the east got from the west could have been done voluntarily and peacefully, the honorable way. But the west chose to colonize the east and all that is coming to an end and Asians know the game.

    Blame it all on Jews if you want, but I thank them for helping to end the Wasp empire.

    So how’s live in apartheid, ethnically cleansed in Israel?

    BTW, there are more than 5.4 million American Indians in the US living off US taxpayers. Wow! Some “extinction” that is.

    But no doubt we’re all forcing them to become the alcoholics they are. Ah yes, those casinos keep the enabling going.

    Speaking of slaves:
    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    see:
    Dr. Tony Martin – The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade

    and:

    http://wethoughttheywerewhite.weebly.com/jews–the-slave-trade.html

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  42. woodNfish says:
    @Anon
    "For over seventy years the US has dominated Asia, ravaging the continent with two major wars in Korea and Indo-China with millions of casualties, and multiple counter-insurgency interventions in Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Timor, Myanmar, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The strategic goal has been to expand its military and political power, exploit the economies and resources and encircle China and North Korea."

    US did some terrible stuff in Asia, but Asian economic boom, democratic progress, social reform, cultural flowering, and innovation cannot be understood apart from American influence.

    Especially after World War II, American 'imperialism' was decidedly different from the European kind that was mostly extractive(though less by British who did contribute good things). US made some fatal flaws: Having Soviets enter North China and Korea, setting the grounds for Mao's victory and Korean war. Also, dividing Vietnam led to the war over there that was a total mess.

    But Japanese social, political, and economic gains after WWII were real. And there was, for a time, genuine cultural flowering. And South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore made great progress under US umbrella and by emulating US economic systems. And US was the great market/consumer of Asian-made products.

    In contrast, Soviet influence led to dire North Korea, backward communist Vietnam, and useless Soviet-backed insurgencies. Chinese Communist model was even worse. Mao killed how many? 30 to 50 million. And in peacetime. And how much culture did he destroy. And then, there was Khmer Rouge, modeled on Maoism. What horror that was. Killing 2 out of 7 million for some mad social experiment. And North Korea makes 1984 sound like a gathering of Cato Institute.
    (And Japanese designs on Asia in the 30s were far more sinister than American imperialism.)

    Though far from perfect, the American model of capitalism, democracy, and moderate nationalism did a lot of good for Asia. That was during the Cold War when US was still ruled by Anglo-Americans elites and informed by Christian values and pride in European heritage.

    America really began to go wrong since end of Cold War. When it ended, Russia was no longer the enemy. It wanted to be friends. China had turned to market economy and just wanted to do business. China did move toward greater stake in Asia, but it is wholly understandable since it is the premier nation in Asia and had traditionally been such for 1000 yrs. So, rise of China as regional power was only natural.
    But US still acts in mode of Cold War politics and meddles too much in world affairs, especially when there are now so many problems at home in America itself, what with sinking middle class, white death, broken borders, decline of rule of law, fading of social/moral consensus, and cultural rot.

    And American culture went from Christian values and Euro-American identity to some shallow idiotic celebration of homosexuals, trannies, trashy rappers, porn stars, and shameless celebrities.
    American pop culture always had a salacious and shady side(esp since the Jazz Age), but now it is an open sewage and causes baleful harm to the world.
    How a nation with a culture so debased can go around talking about dignity, human rights, and etc to the rest of the world is beyond me. How did US become a nation that destroys businesses because they won't bake cakes for homo tying the knot?

    Also, while Wasps were often a devious bunch, they did have some sense of honor. Maybe not enough, but some. Also, there was a broad Anglo-American social reform movement that was especially critical of the Wasps who held the power.
    But the new masters, the Jewish globalists, are utterly without conscience when it comes to people outside the tribe. There are increasing number of Jewish critics of this Power that is spiraling out of control, but their voices are mostly ineffective.
    The rationale for American power is now totally surreal and nuts in Syria, Ukraine, and etc. US is acting like Nazis.

    And then, the problem of boomers taking power. Boomers emotionally failed to mature beyond their college yrs. (Millennials are of course worse.) Their sense of history and culture is shallow. They have no conviction or compass; they will say and do anything to get what's theirs. Clintons and Bushes and Obamas exemplify this utter rot. Just how did the Democratic Party become what it is?

    This is why we need to discern a historical break in discussing American power: Before Cold War and After Cold War. US did a lot of bad stuff in the Cold War, but overall, its power and influence were preferable to that of the other side and other alternatives. Francis Fuku may have over-stated his case, but he was half-right in claiming great victory for the Western Way.

    But with all the cultural rot and decadence that grew out of control since the rise of the boomers, American Global Power is one sick puppy. US is still great at science and technology, but its culture and politics are total shit. American elites are degenerate, and American masses have tattoos on their asses. What kind of a civilization is this?

    And even though Russia and China are hardly models of good governance --- they are dens of corruption and cronyism --- , they seem to be relatively sane when it comes to culture and politics. They don't worship people for being homo or tranny. And they don't seek global hegemony or invade/destroy entire nations for bogus nonsense about WMD or 'human rights'. A vile wench like Samantha Powers is a US phenom.

    Foreigners may think that the pap marketed by hollywood represents amerikan culture, but they would be just as wrong as you are. Middle amerika does not look like a hollywood movie no matter how much you’d like it to.

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  43. woodNfish says:
    @Chuck Orloski
    I am pleased Rehmat entered this exchange and provided learned reflections.

    For quite some time, even U.S. Congressmen could only get a background check, either "pass or fail," afterward make an appointment to read T.P.P., and were prohibited to make photocopies of the secret agreement for further perusal.

    Not once during Trump & Hillary debates did either candidate precisely express why they did not favor the T.P.P. Of course each debate moderator (obfuscator?) gave them a "pass" on this very important "trade" matter involving how 21st Century humanity shall "buy and sell."

    (Note: As typical for U.S.-Zionist elections, it's the carefully managed debate questions & c0andidate answers that inevitably come back to BITE people)

    However much I respect Mr. Petras's attempt to educate American citizens as to what's going on, it's a very open secret as to the ongoing T.P.P. higher education curriculum going in between Israelis and Chinese.

    At present, & as "Millennials" pay astronomical college tuition bills, people should recognize that even the best Universities do NOT stand above the axiom, "Follow the Money." Refer to Jerusalem Post article below?

    http://www.jpost.com/Business-and-Innovation/Israeli-and-Chinese-universities-to-establish-entrepreneurship-center-449862

    Thank you.

    The phony “debates” are BS sessions. I don’t know anyone who actually expects to learn something from those twisted LSM platforms. If you want to know Trump’s position on TPP you can read it on his website. He thinks it is our politicians and corporate oligarchs selling out the amerikan worker. He also said this in his book, “Crippled America”.

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  44. gwynedd1 says:
    @Anon
    The crazy logic of imperialism.

    Romans sought more dominance and glory abroad via expansion even as their home base in Italy was deteriorating.

    US cannot protect its borders, and its core population, the whites, are totally demoralized or demented by PC and Pop Culture, and yet, there is so much imperial ambition abroad in Asia, Middle East, North Africa, Ukraine, Russia, etc.
    It's like a man so addicted to gaining new fortunes or seeking new adventures by wandering around that he fails to notice or doesn't care that his family is starving.
    Like the guy in The Swimmer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpe46BtVVoM

    But from a political viewpoint, this is understandable. US government can act dictatorial and 'big' in foreign policy whereas it is up against more obstacles, legal and political, at home. It's like Nixon paid increasingly more attention to foreign policy since he found domestic politics so frustration.

    Btw, I don't think US is trying to dominate China. US is well-aware that its provocations will make China build up its military even faster.
    US wants this because it could then use the 'fear of China' among the smaller Asian nations that will come to US as savior. US gets to keep its dogs scared of the Chinese wolf.

    And China could be overplaying its role as rival of the US. It has huge financial problems(bigger than America), and more partners under its trade umbreall could also mean more drain on resources. After all, a lot of nations came on-board with what amounts to trade-bribes.
    Consider how BRICS turned out to be a mess. Does China and Russia really want to be involved too directly with Brazil, India, and especially South Africa?
    US and EU may have big problems, but rest of the world are a bigger mess. Look at Venezuela.

    Is US looking for direct confrontation with China? I don't think so. I think it is using tensions to keep smaller Asian nations in US orbit for protection.

    Same thing in Europe. I don't think Hillary and Co. want war with Russia. No one wants to be responsible for 10s of millions of dead, even if the war could be won.
    Rather, the anti-Russian tensions is to draw European nations closer to the US and keep them there.
    It's like in the movie THE VILLAGE. Use the monster-scare-tactics to keep the community close.

    The long-term plan for Russian collapse isn't military. It is economic. Via sanctions and forcing Russia to spend more on military, US hopes to bankrupt Russia to the point of decline and destruction. It's Reaganism Redux. Outspend them and make them spend and spend until they can't anymore.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZSk48cYCKk

    The Soviet Union, and lets face it the Warsaw pact was part of it, was an empire. Such a beast was easy to starve. The maintenance of it is an expensive occupation. Its not going to work on nationalist Russia. They occupy nothing. Meanwhile Russian arms is an export. 15 billion of their output is not an expense but a trade asset.

    The only real tool the US has is to sow discord in Asia.

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  45. gwynedd1 says:
    @Joe Wong
    American exceptionalism is claiming credit where credit is not due, and never take responsibility for its own deed by pointing fingers at the others, this retarded and toxic mentality promulgated from your comment.

    American sold their souls to the dark side of humanity by betraying their anti-fascist war allies and allying with the unrepentant war criminal Japanese in order to fill their greed and global full spectrum dominance imperialism.

    When the American was dominant in Pacific Asia, Pacific-Asia was plagued with wars, poverty, corruption, misery, chaos, destruction, conflicts, brutality, culture genocide, ... When the American domination waned Pacific-Asia rejuvenated, prospered and grow to the point that the American is using "pivot-to-Asia" to destroy the peace and prosperity in Pacific-Asia.

    American is a negative and suffocating factor of Pacific-Asia's peace, growth and prosperity. Without the presence of the American, the Western imperialists and their running dog the unrepentant war criminal Japanese, Pacific-Asia can do way better and way earlier.

    Yeah the US is no picnic but you can blame imperial Japan for destroying any sense of Asian unity. The bad blood with Korea, the Philippines and China is far worse.

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    And I thought the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere was an attempt,
    (modeled in concept after the Monroe Doctrine, no doubt), to unify Asia!
    , @denk
    China and Jp had a honeymoon in the 70, 80.
    At its peak the Jp Pm 小泉一郎 led a team of 600 artistes, businessmen, intellectuals to party in Beijing.
    Both sides agreed to led bygones by bygones and moved forward.

    The 'threat of peace ' sent a shock wave to Washington,
    'How is a man gonna make a living if everybody play nice to everybody,
    My buddy in Lockheed Martin would skewer me , !'
    uncle scam hissed.

    Easy does it for the master of regime change, two successive pro Beijing Pm were soon deposed by soft coups made in Washington.
    Jp China honeymoon was punctured, from then on its a non stop spin downwards.

    With Abe the fascist in charge ,the 'threat of peace' is averted, war is on the horizon.
    uncle scam looks out of the window and sigh with satisfaction.
    'Thats a beautiful world out there'
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  46. annamaria says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    Thank you for writing "For over a century (since the invasion of the Philippines in 1896)". Yes, we invaded, not freed, although it was 1899. Fresh from my blog:

    Oct 28, 2016 - The US Military Invaded the Philippines

    One great myth in the USA is that our nation liberated the Philippines from Spanish rule. This lie is found in all school textbooks and is repeated in modern news articles, whose authors express dismay that the new President of the Philippines does not appreciate America's past assistance. If one bothers to read history books about the Philippines, they reveal that the USA invaded the Philippines in 1899 and destroyed its new government and army. 

    In summary, a colonial rebellion was orchestrated by wealthy and educated Filipinos beginning in 1896. They assembled a modern army as they gradually defeated the scattered Spanish army throughout their nation. (Filipino officers are pictured in 1898.) The Philippine Army grew into regiments and battalions, with an officer corps, uniforms, cavalry, and some artillery. Most of its officers were college educated (many in Spain) and included dozens of former Spanish officers. 

    The once mighty empire of Spain was collapsing as rebellions in the Philippines and Cuba sapped its strength. By 1898, the Spanish had been militarily defeated in the Philippines. Its navy held onto its main naval base at Cavite, which was located on a narrow, easily defended peninsula. The remnants of the Spanish colonial army held the fortified central part of Manila. Unless a major reinforcements arrived from Spain, these remnants would be forced to surrender. 

    In the USA, some wealthy Americans were anxious to establish an empire and manipulated public opinion until the US Congress declared war to allow the US military to seize parts of the collapsing Spanish empire. The US Navy had a squadron deployed to Hong Kong. Soon after war was declared in 1898, it sailed into Manila Bay and quickly sank eight old Spanish warships. US Marines went ashore to accept surrender of the Cavite naval base. 

    The General in charge of the 8400 Spanish soldiers stranded across the bay in Manila sent word that he wanted to surrender to the Americans too. The USA had declared war on Spain after demonizing its military as evil sadists, so leaving their fate to the advancing Filipinos seems fair. However, that is not why the USA declared war. The USA was mobilizing and assembling an entire Army Corps in California to invade and occupy the Philippines, so the Spanish were told to hang on because a rescue force was on the way.

    American Generals in Cavite assured the new Philippine government that the USA was not an empire and had no colonies. The US military was a force for good and troops would soon arrive to end the bloodshed by convincing the encircled Spaniards to surrender. As American infantry arrived, Filipino units escorted them to Spanish strong-points. Spanish officers were from a proud empire and cowards were court-martialed and imprisoned back home. Their officers informally agreed to surrender, but only after brave skirmishes with American troops.
    Afterwards, American infantry units were scattered among Filipino infantry around Manila.

    American Generals said they needed their own zones to prevent incidents among American troops (with their Spanish POWs) and Filipino soldiers. This was granted by the Philippine government, but demands for larger zones were made as more American troops landed. American troops poured into Manila even after all the Spanish POWs had been evacuated! Tensions grew as excuses offered by American Generals made no sense, and some bored American soldiers abused locals, who they referred to as monkeys and niggers.

    Once the entire American 8th Army Corps was ashore in Manila and ready for battle, a local shooting incident was the excuse to invade. Large battles occurred as American infantry attacked their nearby "allies." The Philippine Army (a unit is pictured) was overwhelmed, mostly because the Americans had mobile light artillery and new Gatling guns. The defeated Philippine Army withdrew northward as American forces landed elsewhere to conquer all the Philippines. There were large conventional battles for almost a year. An insurgency only developed after the regular Army had been shattered. 

    Many American veterans of this invasion/occupation felt betrayed since they had volunteered to liberate the oppressed, just like many who joined our Army a century later to liberate Iraq. These facts are not disputed, but American textbooks spin them to evade the reality that the USA invaded the Philippines. A great book about this war with lots of pictures can be read on-line: Philippine-American War 1899-1902.

    Thank you for the overview of the beginning of the US-Philippines relationships

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  47. annamaria says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anon.

    This drivel is what white people always say when they wreck another continent. Just white people romanticising the past.

    For the blacks who came here as slaves, whites will explain it away as "sure a lot of them died and we're mistreated, but now blacks live in a modern country and have higher living standards than black Africans.

    With the red man, sure they are all almost extinct now, but we gave them civilization and medicine and technology. So it is justified. ETC etc.

    Interfering in other cultures the way white people do is never ok, whatever your perceived benefits are. Assassinating foreign leaders, promoting color revolutions, dividing countries, forcing the fiat dollar onto the east, all happened while the Wasp was in charge so quit blaming everything on the Jews.

    Japanese economic and social gains happened because of the Japanese, not because the white man gifted these things to Japan. The west actually neutered Japan when Japan started getting too powerfull in the 80's. That's what you get when you are too close to the west lol.

    What ever benefits the east got from the west could have been done voluntarily and peacefully, the honorable way. But the west chose to colonize the east and all that is coming to an end and Asians know the game.

    Blame it all on Jews if you want, but I thank them for helping to end the Wasp empire.

    “Japanese economic and social gains happened because of the Japanese, not because the white man gifted these things to Japan.” – Correct.

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    I have Japanese relations - or connections as they might be in Jane Austen. Wonderful people who make you scratch your head and wonder how they can be from the same rematkably homogeneous stock as those who did what we know the Japanese did in the 30s and 40s. They also make it easy to understand how Japanese diligence and intelligence made it unique in its rapid climb to material modernity. But of course it is simplistic to say it wasn't a gift of the West because they were given ready access to the examples in the West of what they wanted to emulate and, to use an apt analogy for what they did before WW2 when Japanese consumer goods were regarded as "tinny" (like British cars in the 50s!), they were able to produce the generics at least as soon as IP expired.

    Were they in fact unique? Russia under Peter the Great and some of his successors began to take off in much the same way, learning from the West and making up for the (relevant) deficiencies of Russian culture compared to Japanese by employing lots of non-Russians, mostly Germans but others too.

    "Gift" is of course naively inappropriate if taken too literally in relation to what is called carelessly "colonialism" in, to simplifythe Western story, the spread of Anglophone modernity around the world. Emerging from the Malthusian world in which much of Africa and S and SW Asia still lives the amcient imperative to expand commamd pf resources was fortunately combined in the British case (and yes, some good things can be said about Jesuits and other orders in the case of other Europeans) with evangelical zeal for education, beginning steps in modern medicine and hygeine, and general highminded dogoodism based on Jesus's supposed teaching, plus state of the art economic modernisation consistent with the self-interest of the East India Company and its like. To take a few short cuts India - the big one - ruled by its own native hierarchy and only a handful of Brits (who were not colonists in the original Greek sense or as in America or Australasia) was lucky that its inevitable undemocratic rule by some one or more thoroughly unrepresentative powers was by the leaders by at least two generations in the early stages in the creation of the modern world through scientific revolution, industrial revolution, Enlightenment**, rule of law and representative institutions** and that English and education in English was so advantageous.

    One doesn't have to attribute special virtue to the British mongrel stock to say all that. There were objective factors like the Brits living on a very fertile island with a temperate climate and, after the Vikings and Normans, natural defences that only needed a small efficient navy to allow developments, including experiments, that land borders on the Continent did not protect. Add in coal and accumulated capital from trade (yes, including the slave and sugar trading) and it was possible to run a succesful strong state with still (indeed suddenly after the early 1700s) burgeoning population but many people reaching the higher levels of Maslow's hierarchy of needs and flavouring the whole polity thereby. So... better to be ruled by some "Others" than others. And as a check, ask why neither the civilused Chinese nor the covilised Indians -Muslim or Hindu - picked up the Western ball and ran with it like the Japanese. If you are going to say glibly, because it fits the dates, that Western interference in China and India was so great by the time Japan opened up and progressed under Japanese rule please don't just be opportunistically glib but make an informed case. (You might like to incorporate reference to Clark's "A Farewell to Alms: a Brief Economic History of the World" and Eric Jones's "The European Miracle").

    ** don't quibble please. I know the history of representative institutions and of the French, American, English and Scottish Enlightenents is not to be summarised in a few words. But rule of law, after Roman times anyway, does seem to have been an achievment or at least aspiration first of the Common Law world (interesting to speculate about the influences on Scottish law and judicature and on Roman Dutch law in Sri Lanka and South Africa).
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  48. annamaria says:
    @Rehmat
    Barack Obama, Hillary and Ashton Carter are three 'Kosher Goyim'. They support TPP, because it will serve Israeli interests.

    The so-called Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) has nothing to do with establishing trade partnership with foreign countries. It’s a political bill authored by AIPAC to protect illegal Jewish settlements by forbidding signatories of TPP to boycott Israeli goods.

    The bill with its hidden clauses gives the US president the power to negotiate the TPP trade deal without public scrutiny – require the president make combatting any boycott of the Zionist entity a principle trade objective and would require the president to report to Congress on any business that are participating in such boycotts. Watch a video below in which a US official explains TPP’s ‘secret clauses’.

    Interestingly, the language of the bill specially includes “territories controlled by the state of Israel” – that is, territories occupied by the Jewish army during June 1967, which no country in world including United States, recognizes as part of Israel.

    On June 29, 2015, Israel-First Congressman Peter Roskam boasted on his website: “This is an historic milestone in the fight against Israel’s enemies, as American opposition to insidious efforts to demonize and isolate the Jewish state is now the law of the land. The bipartisan bill enacted today conditions any free trade agreement with the European Union on its rejection of BDS. This will force companies like telecom giant Orange, which is partially owned by the French government, to think twice before engaging in economic warfare against Israel. No longer will these companies be able to freely attack a key U.S. ally without consequence. Nevertheless, what we accomplished today is just the beginning. As the BDS movement continues to evolve, so too must our response. I look forward to working with my colleagues to ensure the U.S.-Israel relationship remains strong now and in the future.”

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/07/28/tpp-serves-israels-interests/

    Here we are: “Roskam has been one of the most outspoken voices in the House against Iran’s nuclear weapons programs…On September 21, 2006, Roskam said that the U.S. should “stay the course” and that U.S. troops should not return home until Iraq is safe.”
    And the inevitable for the noisy hypocrite: “Rep. Roskam and his wife took a trip to Taiwan sponsored by the Taiwanese government, violating federal law and House rules.”

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    So, in other words, when Roskam and dozens of US lawmakers make free trips every year to that LITTLE SHITTY Entity - that's not violation of federal law and House rules?

    In 2011, Republican Rep. Peter Roskam, speaking at the 'Israel Project' press briefing – called Obama to “remove” Howard Gutman, Jewish ambassador to Belgium for insulting the Zionist regime. He also slammed both Hillary Clinton and Leon Panetta for criticizing women right abuses in Israel and “reservations about a military attack on Iran“. At the same press briefing, Democratic Rep. Nita Lowey, a veteran pro-Israel lawmaker, called the US and other countries to impose sanctions on Iran’s central bank "so it is clear to them that a nuclear Iran is unacceptable."

    But the Americans are such a pathetic nation - it keep voting the lawmakers who are more loyal to the Zionist entity than United States.

    https://rehmat1.com/2011/12/10/critics-we-want-to-save-israel-from-doomsday/
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  49. De Gaulle says:

    US tools are for Europe and for Asia. Europe will pay more for society and for borders and Frau Angela Merkel refugees. Hungary has walls and other countries need walls to protect citizens and country. US pivot will mean more wars and human suffering. The future of the world will be more known upon US election with one bad regime giving way to another bad regime. Why must the world pay for irresponsible US?

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  50. pyrrhus says:

    Excellent article, and totally coincides with my experience in the Philippines…Notably, most of the entrepreneurs with any capital are Chinese, and they are the lifeblood of the economy. Allying with China is extremely smart, and it’s a wonder that our State Department didn’t see it coming…Oops, cancel that, LOL, they don’t see anything coming, ever.

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    > Notably, most of the entrepreneurs who can even count straight are ethnic full or part Chinese

    fixed it for you!

    Notwithstanding which, I don't see them as being situated to turn a quick profit on the bnew opening. The first ones to do that were the banana exporters. Which is like 85% in the hands of this ONE family, the Floirendos. They have a building right off to the side of the American-operated building which houses one of the two "call centers" in Davao.


    Call-center employees in Davao make only half of what they'd get in MEtro Manila - but their cost of living is only a THIRD of what it would be up there. So the 'kanos don't have any problem recruiting quality workers.

    The state of education in Davao is quite good. You can become a Australia-certified journeyman offshore welder without ever leaving the city. That's some pretty high wages - well, when the price of oil is high.


    The problem that the Fil-Chinese have is - they don't send their kids to Mandarin-immersion schools. So the Fil-Chinese are intrinsically at a structural disadvantage compared to Singaporean Chinese.

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  51. “because inside every (Asian racial expletive) is American trying to get out”

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  52. To woodNfish:

    Indeed, Donald Trump KNOWS exactly what past Global Trade Treaties were “all about;” replays of 1% and multinational banks/corporation Xmas’s!

    Also, The Donald’s well “briefed” on future plans for the T.P.P. because, as CIA/Mossad operatives are busy preparing “The Way” for a post-Islamic Republic of Iran, the T.P.P.’s mighty business infrastructure requirements are already underway.

    (Note: By a daily reading of Murdoch’s Wall Street Journal, even Mr. Cromey can see such shady phenomenon in development ever since Obama gave his blessing to the T.P.P.)

    I sincerely would love to have passion for Donald Trump’s American revival, woodNfish! However, a layman reading of mid-20th Century to present day U.S. history REVEALS how both political party “platforms” are filled with juicy apples for Voter intake until the “Crippling” International Bank/Goldman Sachs Coalition, inevitably intervenes, upsets the apple cart (with Congressional approval), and takes whatever the (expletive) they want!

    At the very best, a President Trump will modify the T.P.P. (as it stands) so that his dreamy version of a “greater” America does not excessively hurt the vanquished U.S. worker.

    Thank you for such serious exchange, woodNfish, which I hope will continue, including author James Petras’s additional thought!

    post scriptum: I really wish I knew your baptismal name because (for all I know), you might be Newt Gingrich’s butler. Likewise, for all you know, I might be Obama’s caddie.

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  53. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Karl
    > How many of the uneducated products of the American education system even know Joseph Stalin, TS Eliot, Ezra Pound, Rimbaud or Irving Babbit?

    much better to ask if Petras has even ever BEEN to Mindanao, much less lived & did business there for a number of years.

    If you have never drank beers with the creme de la creme of Davao in Matina Town Center on a Saturday night, you might even get convinced that Philippines is about to start orbiting China.

    Does Petras even ever read the Makati newspapers? Believe me, the Filipinos understand that China isn't any different than the Americans, imperialism wise.

    I didn't know that Ron Unz would pay guys to re-presente old White Papers from Patrice Lamumba University. Now I know.

    You sound like the typical American expat in the Phillipines who doesn’t give a crap about the average Phillipino.

    You only care about maintaining American hedgemony there so you can continue seeing cheap hookers and fear that China will increase the living standards there so the girls won’t have to sleep with old fat toads like you.

    Nice try attempting to smear Unz and Petras but I’m not buying it. I just think you are too stupid and lazy to formulate a counter argument.

    There is actually a huge difference between American and Chinese hedgemony. Americans focus on winning and total dominance. The Chinese won’t interfere with Dutertes drug war and won’t bring up phony human rights arguments.

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  54. nsa says:

    Duterte cleaning up the Philippines poses a very serious problem for westerners….WHERE ARE THE POOR SUFFERING SEX TOURISTS GOING TO FIND CHEAP UNDERAGE WHORES TO BANG? This is a crisis of epic proportions. The pervs will have to revert to Thailand and take their chances as to getting stuck by a shabu lady boy….or contracting aids which is rampant.

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  55. @gwynedd1
    Yeah the US is no picnic but you can blame imperial Japan for destroying any sense of Asian unity. The bad blood with Korea, the Philippines and China is far worse.

    And I thought the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere was an attempt,
    (modeled in concept after the Monroe Doctrine, no doubt), to unify Asia!

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  56. @Jason Liu
    Democracy was the worst thing that's happened to the world, including Asia and America.

    Your insane culture and politics are the direct consequence of everyone being allowed equal political agency through universal suffrage. The only reason Asia hasn't descended to those depths is because Asian societies still concentrate power in the hands of old men from the majority ethnic group, and that occurs despite democracy.

    The USA does not have a democracy as the myths falsely suggest. Never did.

    The CIA world fact book used to say that the government of the US was a “constitutional republic with a strong democratic tradition,” but now sez this:

    [USA]Government type:
    federal presidential republic

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html

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    Just wanted to add that the CIA world factbook that jacques sheete referenced @55 has it technically correct.

    The 1787 Constitution as written provided for a "presidential federal republic", as as claimed. There was a president who had real executive power (without having to use the guidance of a prime minster answerable to the legislature), the criteria for a federal system. It provided for states with powers separate from the national government, hence federal. And the only democratic element was the House of Representatives, elected in each state by the same voters eligible to vote in state legislative elections, therefore completely compatible with slavery or restricted franchises, if state governments opted for that in their own organization.

    There was no right to vote in the document and there still isn't. Subsequent amendments have abolished slavery, kept states from limiting the suffrage according to various criteria, and instituted popular elections for Senators, though not on a one man one vote basis.

    Now with the unwritten portion of the Constitution there has been more movement towards democracy, but states' powers have been eroded far more.

    Only on the fringes of American discourse on the left and the right is there any appreciation of this. The right tends to celebrate the non-democratic aspects of the American system but deplores the erosion of states right. The left is fine with the reduction of states rights but would prefer to see more democracy.
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  57. Karl says:
    @pyrrhus
    Excellent article, and totally coincides with my experience in the Philippines...Notably, most of the entrepreneurs with any capital are Chinese, and they are the lifeblood of the economy. Allying with China is extremely smart, and it's a wonder that our State Department didn't see it coming...Oops, cancel that, LOL, they don't see anything coming, ever.

    > Notably, most of the entrepreneurs who can even count straight are ethnic full or part Chinese

    fixed it for you!

    Notwithstanding which, I don’t see them as being situated to turn a quick profit on the bnew opening. The first ones to do that were the banana exporters. Which is like 85% in the hands of this ONE family, the Floirendos. They have a building right off to the side of the American-operated building which houses one of the two “call centers” in Davao.

    Call-center employees in Davao make only half of what they’d get in MEtro Manila – but their cost of living is only a THIRD of what it would be up there. So the ‘kanos don’t have any problem recruiting quality workers.

    The state of education in Davao is quite good. You can become a Australia-certified journeyman offshore welder without ever leaving the city. That’s some pretty high wages – well, when the price of oil is high.

    The problem that the Fil-Chinese have is – they don’t send their kids to Mandarin-immersion schools. So the Fil-Chinese are intrinsically at a structural disadvantage compared to Singaporean Chinese.

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  58. Rehmat says:
    @annamaria
    Here we are: "Roskam has been one of the most outspoken voices in the House against Iran's nuclear weapons programs...On September 21, 2006, Roskam said that the U.S. should "stay the course" and that U.S. troops should not return home until Iraq is safe."
    And the inevitable for the noisy hypocrite: "Rep. Roskam and his wife took a trip to Taiwan sponsored by the Taiwanese government, violating federal law and House rules."

    So, in other words, when Roskam and dozens of US lawmakers make free trips every year to that LITTLE SHITTY Entity – that’s not violation of federal law and House rules?

    In 2011, Republican Rep. Peter Roskam, speaking at the ‘Israel Project’ press briefing – called Obama to “remove” Howard Gutman, Jewish ambassador to Belgium for insulting the Zionist regime. He also slammed both Hillary Clinton and Leon Panetta for criticizing women right abuses in Israel and “reservations about a military attack on Iran“. At the same press briefing, Democratic Rep. Nita Lowey, a veteran pro-Israel lawmaker, called the US and other countries to impose sanctions on Iran’s central bank “so it is clear to them that a nuclear Iran is unacceptable.”

    But the Americans are such a pathetic nation – it keep voting the lawmakers who are more loyal to the Zionist entity than United States.

    https://rehmat1.com/2011/12/10/critics-we-want-to-save-israel-from-doomsday/

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  59. Joe Wong says:
    @Grahamsno(G64)
    This is a real time collapse of American foreign policy across multiple theaters - Pivot to Asia is done, the middle east is in flames, and they are being outmaneuvered by Putin in Ukraine and Syria, Iran is laughing at their naivete, Saudi Arabia is furious with them as well as Pakistan which is going out of the way to install another Taliban regime in Afghanistan. After 15 years of war in Afghanistan the Taliban is on a roll. America has serious problems on the homefront with large disaffected demographics which will be exacerbated no matter who wins their buffoonish elections. Add that to a 20 trillion dollar debt and a gridlocked congress. They are facing an accelerating loss of credibility and morale which will not be rolled back easily.

    We are in historic times watching the precipitous decline of a Superpower. The power vacuum will be dangerous and what is worse this wounded beast will make a last ditch attempt to regain lost glory. Dangerous times indeed.

    “The US military, despite all our challenges, will stop you, and we will beat you harder than you have ever been beaten before.” the American Army Chief said, it surly proves the Empire of Chaos will make a last nasty ditch attempt to regain lost glory like a wounded beast, dangerous times indeed.

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  60. US should ditch Israel (as they have already entered into secret alliance with Russia), and form an alliance with Iran and China. Grant China their local sphere of influence in South-East Asia, and Iran in the Persian Gulf. Faced with the Russia-Israel-Turkey axis, Iran would prove to be a willing ally, and this American-Iranian control over the energy resources would keep China in line.

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    why would iran allow it self be used again? why would china be content with scraps and leavings at our table when it is already having a full course meal? why can't iran deal with china directly like it is already doing?

    with our track record, even if we did a 180 on all our policies towards china and iran, it would take decades for them to even begin trust us.
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  61. denk says:
    @gwynedd1
    Yeah the US is no picnic but you can blame imperial Japan for destroying any sense of Asian unity. The bad blood with Korea, the Philippines and China is far worse.

    China and Jp had a honeymoon in the 70, 80.
    At its peak the Jp Pm 小泉一郎 led a team of 600 artistes, businessmen, intellectuals to party in Beijing.
    Both sides agreed to led bygones by bygones and moved forward.

    The ‘threat of peace ‘ sent a shock wave to Washington,
    ‘How is a man gonna make a living if everybody play nice to everybody,
    My buddy in Lockheed Martin would skewer me , !’
    uncle scam hissed.

    Easy does it for the master of regime change, two successive pro Beijing Pm were soon deposed by soft coups made in Washington.
    Jp China honeymoon was punctured, from then on its a non stop spin downwards.

    With Abe the fascist in charge ,the ‘threat of peace’ is averted, war is on the horizon.
    uncle scam looks out of the window and sigh with satisfaction.
    ‘Thats a beautiful world out there’

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    should be...
    let bygones be bygones
    , @denk
    Due to explosive increase in bi-lateral trade and prez Park's affinity to Chinese culture, Sk and China had their honeymoon since 2010.
    This annoyed uncle scam to no end, a murkka/Jp/Sk triumvirate was supposed to be the coveted vanguard of the anti Chinese posse'.
    What to do about yet another threat of *peace* ?
    The Nk card, worked every time. !

    The Nk boogeyman has already enabled uncle scam to hold onto its Okinawa colony despite fierce local opposition, perpetuated the Sk/murkka 'defence' pact which put the Sk armed forces under the command of a four star murkkan general, planted Wmds in Jeju island, right at China's doorstep !
    This time it let Washington rammed THAAD down Sk's throat , despite mdm Park's reluctance to piss off Sk's number one trading partner.

    Beijing was furious.

    From this to this

    *The Wrecker* in Washington heave a sigh of relief.
    Another 'threat' neutralised. !
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  62. denk says:
    @denk
    China and Jp had a honeymoon in the 70, 80.
    At its peak the Jp Pm 小泉一郎 led a team of 600 artistes, businessmen, intellectuals to party in Beijing.
    Both sides agreed to led bygones by bygones and moved forward.

    The 'threat of peace ' sent a shock wave to Washington,
    'How is a man gonna make a living if everybody play nice to everybody,
    My buddy in Lockheed Martin would skewer me , !'
    uncle scam hissed.

    Easy does it for the master of regime change, two successive pro Beijing Pm were soon deposed by soft coups made in Washington.
    Jp China honeymoon was punctured, from then on its a non stop spin downwards.

    With Abe the fascist in charge ,the 'threat of peace' is averted, war is on the horizon.
    uncle scam looks out of the window and sigh with satisfaction.
    'Thats a beautiful world out there'

    should be…
    let bygones be bygones

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  63. @survey-of-disinfo
    US should ditch Israel (as they have already entered into secret alliance with Russia), and form an alliance with Iran and China. Grant China their local sphere of influence in South-East Asia, and Iran in the Persian Gulf. Faced with the Russia-Israel-Turkey axis, Iran would prove to be a willing ally, and this American-Iranian control over the energy resources would keep China in line.

    why would iran allow it self be used again? why would china be content with scraps and leavings at our table when it is already having a full course meal? why can’t iran deal with china directly like it is already doing?

    with our track record, even if we did a 180 on all our policies towards china and iran, it would take decades for them to even begin trust us.

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    180: phew on "trust". The respective ruling critters know and recognize their counter parts.

    Iran: Russia along with Great Britiain are Iran's historic enemies. Fact. Not that Iranians have anything against them.

    China: has precisely 0 years of experience running Empires outside of greater China. This, with over few thousands years of history. The World will never accept Chinese rule. They will be OK with a a face-saving structure.
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  64. @Anonymous

    Without total US control over the Philippines, Washington’s strategic arc of encirclement against China is broken.
     
    They can still depend on the THAAD to keep China and its capital in their crosshairs, at least so long as they don't alienate South Korea.

    They can still depend on the THAAD to keep China and its capital in their crosshairs, at least so long as they don’t alienate South Korea.

    THAAD in Korea is bypassed as rockets to USA would fly more over Mongolia and Russia, not over South Korea due to earth curvature.

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    due to earth curvature.

    what none sense! Thank goodness the planners know that there is not such curvature!


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFjG4jpUhQI
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  65. @Wally
    " US is acting like Nazis."

    You have a blind spot in your knowledge of history, you have been indoctrinated.

    There are the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there are the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The only reason the average American is more likely to agree with Jewish supremacists / Israel is because they’ve had their head filled with various absurd fictions such as 'holocaust' propaganda, “Judeo-Christian values”, and Jews being a uniquely righteous, exceptional, and persecuted people.

    Indeed, the impossible '6M, 5M others, & gas chambers' has hoodwinked too many for too long.

    The "holocaust' Industry's Potemkin Villages, aka 'holocaust museums' are pure theme park theatre.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869:
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg

    Honest question, are you asserting that no Jewish civilians were rounded up and perished in prison camps? If you are disputing the “number”- then how many were “actually” murdered?

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    Numbers in history are about as reliable as modern government unemployment and inflation statistics and big business accounting records, and as accurate as msm reporting. Mundus vult decipi, decipiatur ergo.
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  66. @Stonehands
    Honest question, are you asserting that no Jewish civilians were rounded up and perished in prison camps? If you are disputing the "number"- then how many were "actually" murdered?

    Numbers in history are about as reliable as modern government unemployment and inflation statistics and big business accounting records, and as accurate as msm reporting. Mundus vult decipi, decipiatur ergo.

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    Mundus vult decipi, decipiatur ergo.
     
    We are here on the Unz because we are deep pattern thinkers who can reason through noise, deception and misdirection.

    Don't troll me, Bro. I asked you an honest question. What is your position?

    Approximate numbers, please.

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  67. @Hans Vogel
    Numbers in history are about as reliable as modern government unemployment and inflation statistics and big business accounting records, and as accurate as msm reporting. Mundus vult decipi, decipiatur ergo.

    Mundus vult decipi, decipiatur ergo.

    We are here on the Unz because we are deep pattern thinkers who can reason through noise, deception and misdirection.

    Don’t troll me, Bro. I asked you an honest question. What is your position?

    Approximate numbers, please.

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    I am not Hans, but I too doubt the holocost narrative. I'm sure Jews were rounded up and killled, just like a lot of other groups.

    But my experience with Jews has led me to believe that Jews amplify and exaggerate what happens to them all the time.

    So to me it is plausible that say 600,000 Jews died in WW2, the Jewish elite would spin it as 6 million. The six million number showed up before WW2, so why should we believe that number as fact?
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  68. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Stonehands

    Mundus vult decipi, decipiatur ergo.
     
    We are here on the Unz because we are deep pattern thinkers who can reason through noise, deception and misdirection.

    Don't troll me, Bro. I asked you an honest question. What is your position?

    Approximate numbers, please.

    I am not Hans, but I too doubt the holocost narrative. I’m sure Jews were rounded up and killled, just like a lot of other groups.

    But my experience with Jews has led me to believe that Jews amplify and exaggerate what happens to them all the time.

    So to me it is plausible that say 600,000 Jews died in WW2, the Jewish elite would spin it as 6 million. The six million number showed up before WW2, so why should we believe that number as fact?

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    Fair enough.

    600,ooo slobs...just like you or me. Hauled off the street and murdered, not by an idiotic criminal, but by what "society" allegedly has the best to offer- The State.
    I am sure the oligarchy among the Jews was perfectly willing to sacrifice their lesser brethren in their little poker game with the industrialists and bankers in Germany [ after all- Hitler got rid of the SA mutts in favor of this aristocracy]....600,000 or 6 million seems kinda twisted- either number, eh?

    , @jacques sheete

    so why should we believe that number as fact?
     
    Indeed.

    Allowing for a maximum of 100,000 who succeeded in emigrating from Europe, this would bring the total number of Jews under the direct rule of Nazi Germany to about 3,200,000.

    AMERICAN JEWISH YEAR BOOK, pg 664

    http://www.ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/Files/1941_1942_9_Statistics.pdf

     

    I hope the link still works.
    , @in the middle
    "I do not believe that telling the truth about Jews -- even the ugly truths -- is something that 'promotes hatred' of Jews -- at least not among intelligent people. If, for example, we point out that most Jews believe in and promote the Orthodox Jewish Version of the Holocaust, we are not claiming that they are evil any more than the many non-Jews who believe and promote the same story -- we are only saying that they are misguided and need to be properly informed. This, of course, does not keep believers in the Orthodox Jewish Version -- whether Jews or gentiles -- from hating US when we point out its falsity, and indeed, this is what they often do; but that only means that the worst we could be accused of is that, in telling the truth, we promote hatred of OURSELVES." --JBR Yant
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  69. @Anonymous
    I am not Hans, but I too doubt the holocost narrative. I'm sure Jews were rounded up and killled, just like a lot of other groups.

    But my experience with Jews has led me to believe that Jews amplify and exaggerate what happens to them all the time.

    So to me it is plausible that say 600,000 Jews died in WW2, the Jewish elite would spin it as 6 million. The six million number showed up before WW2, so why should we believe that number as fact?

    Fair enough.

    600,ooo slobs…just like you or me. Hauled off the street and murdered, not by an idiotic criminal, but by what “society” allegedly has the best to offer- The State.
    I am sure the oligarchy among the Jews was perfectly willing to sacrifice their lesser brethren in their little poker game with the industrialists and bankers in Germany [ after all- Hitler got rid of the SA mutts in favor of this aristocracy]….600,000 or 6 million seems kinda twisted- either number, eh?

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  70. denk says:
    @denk
    China and Jp had a honeymoon in the 70, 80.
    At its peak the Jp Pm 小泉一郎 led a team of 600 artistes, businessmen, intellectuals to party in Beijing.
    Both sides agreed to led bygones by bygones and moved forward.

    The 'threat of peace ' sent a shock wave to Washington,
    'How is a man gonna make a living if everybody play nice to everybody,
    My buddy in Lockheed Martin would skewer me , !'
    uncle scam hissed.

    Easy does it for the master of regime change, two successive pro Beijing Pm were soon deposed by soft coups made in Washington.
    Jp China honeymoon was punctured, from then on its a non stop spin downwards.

    With Abe the fascist in charge ,the 'threat of peace' is averted, war is on the horizon.
    uncle scam looks out of the window and sigh with satisfaction.
    'Thats a beautiful world out there'

    Due to explosive increase in bi-lateral trade and prez Park’s affinity to Chinese culture, Sk and China had their honeymoon since 2010.
    This annoyed uncle scam to no end, a murkka/Jp/Sk triumvirate was supposed to be the coveted vanguard of the anti Chinese posse’.
    What to do about yet another threat of *peace* ?
    The Nk card, worked every time. !

    The Nk boogeyman has already enabled uncle scam to hold onto its Okinawa colony despite fierce local opposition, perpetuated the Sk/murkka ‘defence’ pact which put the Sk armed forces under the command of a four star murkkan general, planted Wmds in Jeju island, right at China’s doorstep !
    This time it let Washington rammed THAAD down Sk’s throat , despite mdm Park’s reluctance to piss off Sk’s number one trading partner.

    Beijing was furious.

    From this to this

    *The Wrecker* in Washington heave a sigh of relief.
    Another ‘threat’ neutralised. !

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    Sigh....
    It should be,

    From this to this !

    The Wrecker must be chuckling to himself
    , another demolition job well done !

    hehehehe
    , @denk
    Jp
    Sk,
    Ph,
    Vn,
    Sg,
    Malaysia,
    Indon,
    Myanmar,
    Nepal,
    Sri LaNka,
    Bangladesh,
    ....................................

    Erecting a cordon sanitaire around China, one country at the time.

    How could we forget India , the 'pivot' of uncle scam's 'asia pivot' ?
    It was there in the 1900 'rape of Peking', aka 'eight nations alliance'.
    RAW was in cahoot with CIA in that 1959 tibet caper,
    It was there in the invasion of China, 1962, at the behest of BOTH USA, USSR !
    Delhi was again up to its eyeball in the 2008 tibet destabilisation.

    While its true that India under Modi has jumped fully in bed with uncle scam,
    Fact is, there wasnt a western subterfuge against China that Bharat hasnt liked !
    India had actually signed up for the "eight nations alliance mark II' way back in 2005.

    *unitedsnake/delhi are building an alliance that is bound to alarm
    the Chinese, who cannot fail to see it as directed against them. There is
    absolutely no evidence for aggressive Chinese intentions towards India or
    anywhere in South Asia, but Washington and New Delhi are laying the
    foundations for a new Cold War in Asia
    .* [1]


    [1]
    http://tinyurl.com/jv35abc

    p.s.
    alternate media seem to be infested with trolls who post rubbish.
    The drivels spewed by 'woo' here is so inanne ,it makes one wonder if he's paid
    to provoke serious commentators into endless disruptive flame wars ?
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  71. denk says:
    @denk
    Due to explosive increase in bi-lateral trade and prez Park's affinity to Chinese culture, Sk and China had their honeymoon since 2010.
    This annoyed uncle scam to no end, a murkka/Jp/Sk triumvirate was supposed to be the coveted vanguard of the anti Chinese posse'.
    What to do about yet another threat of *peace* ?
    The Nk card, worked every time. !

    The Nk boogeyman has already enabled uncle scam to hold onto its Okinawa colony despite fierce local opposition, perpetuated the Sk/murkka 'defence' pact which put the Sk armed forces under the command of a four star murkkan general, planted Wmds in Jeju island, right at China's doorstep !
    This time it let Washington rammed THAAD down Sk's throat , despite mdm Park's reluctance to piss off Sk's number one trading partner.

    Beijing was furious.

    From this to this

    *The Wrecker* in Washington heave a sigh of relief.
    Another 'threat' neutralised. !

    Sigh….
    It should be,

    From this to this !

    The Wrecker must be chuckling to himself
    , another demolition job well done !

    hehehehe

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    Why don't you do us all the courtesy of cutting out all the cute silliness and writing any sensible thoughts in plain grammatical coherent English.
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  72. eD says:
    @jacques sheete
    The USA does not have a democracy as the myths falsely suggest. Never did.

    The CIA world fact book used to say that the government of the US was a "constitutional republic with a strong democratic tradition," but now sez this:

    [USA]Government type:
    federal presidential republic

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html

    Just wanted to add that the CIA world factbook that jacques sheete referenced @55 has it technically correct.

    The 1787 Constitution as written provided for a “presidential federal republic”, as as claimed. There was a president who had real executive power (without having to use the guidance of a prime minster answerable to the legislature), the criteria for a federal system. It provided for states with powers separate from the national government, hence federal. And the only democratic element was the House of Representatives, elected in each state by the same voters eligible to vote in state legislative elections, therefore completely compatible with slavery or restricted franchises, if state governments opted for that in their own organization.

    There was no right to vote in the document and there still isn’t. Subsequent amendments have abolished slavery, kept states from limiting the suffrage according to various criteria, and instituted popular elections for Senators, though not on a one man one vote basis.

    Now with the unwritten portion of the Constitution there has been more movement towards democracy, but states’ powers have been eroded far more.

    Only on the fringes of American discourse on the left and the right is there any appreciation of this. The right tends to celebrate the non-democratic aspects of the American system but deplores the erosion of states right. The left is fine with the reduction of states rights but would prefer to see more democracy.

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  73. @jacques sheete

    Believe me, the Filipinos understand that China isn’t any different than the Americans, imperialism wise.
     
    Your points are superb and valid, but, sorry to generalize, Pinoys generally harbor a lot of resentment toward the Chinese because of their business practices, acumen and virtual economic hegemony, but the problem is that while the Pinoy in the street and the middle class ones may feel that way, the effective rulers of the Philippines are probably mostly of Chinese descent, and I have no doubt that they could be easily bought off in various ways by the Chinese leadership. Besides, whereas the 'Merkins and other Western agents have used physical force to get their way, China hasn't much of a record of it. In that case, it not hard to see who they'd prefer.

    All in all, this is a most interesting show, and it will provide a lot of entertainment for those of us able to sit on the sidelines. The situation is complex, and both Trump and the Hillabeast must be really nuts to willingly volunteer walk into such a pit, especially at their ages.

    I do, however, certainly hope the smug ones get their comeuppance.

    Do you seriously think Filipinos regard China, right next door, as having less of a relevant record of using force to get its way than the US? They’ve overlooked Korea, threats to Taiwan, Tibet, the Uighurs, the starvation of their own in the Great Leap Forward, letting loose the Red Guard in the Cultural Revolution, invading India, invading Vietnam, Tianmen Square…. just for most of the highlights since 1949 when the Nationalists used force on the Taiwanese..??

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    I'm not so sure that Pinoys have felt the effects of Chinese boots; what most seem to fear is the economic stranglehold that Filipinos of Chinese descent have on the Phils.

    I believe, for instance, that the SM Mega malls (huge things) and Philippine Airlines are owned by Henry Sy and Lucia Tan respectively, both of whom are "Chinese na Chinese" (very Chinese).

    To this day many Pinoys resent a lot of what America has done since it betrayed the Pinoy freedom fighters back around 1900, and for its backing of the corrupt thug, Ferdinand Marcos, to name just two huge no-nos.

    I have a picture somewhere of a bullet lodged in the mahogany door of an upper room of the Pastor residence in Batangas that was intended for Taft when he was governor of the Phils. A gunman climbed a tree and fired at him through an open window but missed. Noticing that after a private piano concert there a few years ago and hearing the story help sober me up to the evils of American military adventurism in the West Pacific.
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  74. @annamaria
    "Japanese economic and social gains happened because of the Japanese, not because the white man gifted these things to Japan." - Correct.

    I have Japanese relations – or connections as they might be in Jane Austen. Wonderful people who make you scratch your head and wonder how they can be from the same rematkably homogeneous stock as those who did what we know the Japanese did in the 30s and 40s. They also make it easy to understand how Japanese diligence and intelligence made it unique in its rapid climb to material modernity. But of course it is simplistic to say it wasn’t a gift of the West because they were given ready access to the examples in the West of what they wanted to emulate and, to use an apt analogy for what they did before WW2 when Japanese consumer goods were regarded as “tinny” (like British cars in the 50s!), they were able to produce the generics at least as soon as IP expired.

    Were they in fact unique? Russia under Peter the Great and some of his successors began to take off in much the same way, learning from the West and making up for the (relevant) deficiencies of Russian culture compared to Japanese by employing lots of non-Russians, mostly Germans but others too.

    “Gift” is of course naively inappropriate if taken too literally in relation to what is called carelessly “colonialism” in, to simplifythe Western story, the spread of Anglophone modernity around the world. Emerging from the Malthusian world in which much of Africa and S and SW Asia still lives the amcient imperative to expand commamd pf resources was fortunately combined in the British case (and yes, some good things can be said about Jesuits and other orders in the case of other Europeans) with evangelical zeal for education, beginning steps in modern medicine and hygeine, and general highminded dogoodism based on Jesus’s supposed teaching, plus state of the art economic modernisation consistent with the self-interest of the East India Company and its like. To take a few short cuts India – the big one – ruled by its own native hierarchy and only a handful of Brits (who were not colonists in the original Greek sense or as in America or Australasia) was lucky that its inevitable undemocratic rule by some one or more thoroughly unrepresentative powers was by the leaders by at least two generations in the early stages in the creation of the modern world through scientific revolution, industrial revolution, Enlightenment**, rule of law and representative institutions** and that English and education in English was so advantageous.

    One doesn’t have to attribute special virtue to the British mongrel stock to say all that. There were objective factors like the Brits living on a very fertile island with a temperate climate and, after the Vikings and Normans, natural defences that only needed a small efficient navy to allow developments, including experiments, that land borders on the Continent did not protect. Add in coal and accumulated capital from trade (yes, including the slave and sugar trading) and it was possible to run a succesful strong state with still (indeed suddenly after the early 1700s) burgeoning population but many people reaching the higher levels of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs and flavouring the whole polity thereby. So… better to be ruled by some “Others” than others. And as a check, ask why neither the civilused Chinese nor the covilised Indians -Muslim or Hindu – picked up the Western ball and ran with it like the Japanese. If you are going to say glibly, because it fits the dates, that Western interference in China and India was so great by the time Japan opened up and progressed under Japanese rule please don’t just be opportunistically glib but make an informed case. (You might like to incorporate reference to Clark’s “A Farewell to Alms: a Brief Economic History of the World” and Eric Jones’s “The European Miracle”).

    ** don’t quibble please. I know the history of representative institutions and of the French, American, English and Scottish Enlightenents is not to be summarised in a few words. But rule of law, after Roman times anyway, does seem to have been an achievment or at least aspiration first of the Common Law world (interesting to speculate about the influences on Scottish law and judicature and on Roman Dutch law in Sri Lanka and South Africa).

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    On the Japanese-Russian comparison I note that they both had hugely fertile peasantry at relevamt times (so no lack of manpower for war in the 20th century BTW) and I speculate that it was something in the social structure relating to relations with this vast peasantry that made a critical difference. The Russian serfs were emancipated in the late 19th century, possibly less well educated than Japanese peasants who didn't have to be emancipated??? Maybe Japanese peasant devotion to the Emperor was critically different from somewhat Bolshie-but-Christian attitudes to their social superiors amongst the Russian masses. Then again the Russian economy was taking off before WW1 when the war undid everything. Yes I think I have left it that the Japanese takeoff was unique without quite putting my finger on an explanation. For the Russian contrast: more IQ points and less alcohol perhaps?
    , @jacques sheete

    ...as those who did what we know the Japanese did in the 30s and 40s.
     
    While I don't know what you think you know, I think what you know is probably propaganda based, and i don't say that in a snarky tone.

    Here's why I say that...


    “Revisionism as applied to World War II and its origins (as also for previous wars) has the general function of bringing historical truth to an American and a world public that had been drugged by wartime lies and propaganda.
    The least of the lessons that revisionism can teach has already been thoroughly learned ( ed: by a select few): that Germany and Japan are not uniquely "aggressor nations," doomed from birth to menace the peace of the world. The larger lessons have, unfortunately, yet to be learned.”
    Now revisionism teaches us that this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.
    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler's Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”
    Murray Rothbard, Revisionism for Our Times, 1966. Note: This gentleman was also Jewish.
    http://mises.org/daily/2592
     
    Also, reading Lindbergh's memoirs will give one a different view regarding the truth. In brief, the Japanese soldiers were not the fanatics portrayed, nor were American soldiers the gallant knights in shining armor as the myths have it. Quite the hair raising opposite. And no, Lindy was not an anti-Semite as he's been smeared. And no, he was no philanderer as sicky Wikipedia probably still claims.
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  75. @denk
    Sigh....
    It should be,

    From this to this !

    The Wrecker must be chuckling to himself
    , another demolition job well done !

    hehehehe

    Why don’t you do us all the courtesy of cutting out all the cute silliness and writing any sensible thoughts in plain grammatical coherent English.

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  76. @Wizard of Oz
    I have Japanese relations - or connections as they might be in Jane Austen. Wonderful people who make you scratch your head and wonder how they can be from the same rematkably homogeneous stock as those who did what we know the Japanese did in the 30s and 40s. They also make it easy to understand how Japanese diligence and intelligence made it unique in its rapid climb to material modernity. But of course it is simplistic to say it wasn't a gift of the West because they were given ready access to the examples in the West of what they wanted to emulate and, to use an apt analogy for what they did before WW2 when Japanese consumer goods were regarded as "tinny" (like British cars in the 50s!), they were able to produce the generics at least as soon as IP expired.

    Were they in fact unique? Russia under Peter the Great and some of his successors began to take off in much the same way, learning from the West and making up for the (relevant) deficiencies of Russian culture compared to Japanese by employing lots of non-Russians, mostly Germans but others too.

    "Gift" is of course naively inappropriate if taken too literally in relation to what is called carelessly "colonialism" in, to simplifythe Western story, the spread of Anglophone modernity around the world. Emerging from the Malthusian world in which much of Africa and S and SW Asia still lives the amcient imperative to expand commamd pf resources was fortunately combined in the British case (and yes, some good things can be said about Jesuits and other orders in the case of other Europeans) with evangelical zeal for education, beginning steps in modern medicine and hygeine, and general highminded dogoodism based on Jesus's supposed teaching, plus state of the art economic modernisation consistent with the self-interest of the East India Company and its like. To take a few short cuts India - the big one - ruled by its own native hierarchy and only a handful of Brits (who were not colonists in the original Greek sense or as in America or Australasia) was lucky that its inevitable undemocratic rule by some one or more thoroughly unrepresentative powers was by the leaders by at least two generations in the early stages in the creation of the modern world through scientific revolution, industrial revolution, Enlightenment**, rule of law and representative institutions** and that English and education in English was so advantageous.

    One doesn't have to attribute special virtue to the British mongrel stock to say all that. There were objective factors like the Brits living on a very fertile island with a temperate climate and, after the Vikings and Normans, natural defences that only needed a small efficient navy to allow developments, including experiments, that land borders on the Continent did not protect. Add in coal and accumulated capital from trade (yes, including the slave and sugar trading) and it was possible to run a succesful strong state with still (indeed suddenly after the early 1700s) burgeoning population but many people reaching the higher levels of Maslow's hierarchy of needs and flavouring the whole polity thereby. So... better to be ruled by some "Others" than others. And as a check, ask why neither the civilused Chinese nor the covilised Indians -Muslim or Hindu - picked up the Western ball and ran with it like the Japanese. If you are going to say glibly, because it fits the dates, that Western interference in China and India was so great by the time Japan opened up and progressed under Japanese rule please don't just be opportunistically glib but make an informed case. (You might like to incorporate reference to Clark's "A Farewell to Alms: a Brief Economic History of the World" and Eric Jones's "The European Miracle").

    ** don't quibble please. I know the history of representative institutions and of the French, American, English and Scottish Enlightenents is not to be summarised in a few words. But rule of law, after Roman times anyway, does seem to have been an achievment or at least aspiration first of the Common Law world (interesting to speculate about the influences on Scottish law and judicature and on Roman Dutch law in Sri Lanka and South Africa).

    On the Japanese-Russian comparison I note that they both had hugely fertile peasantry at relevamt times (so no lack of manpower for war in the 20th century BTW) and I speculate that it was something in the social structure relating to relations with this vast peasantry that made a critical difference. The Russian serfs were emancipated in the late 19th century, possibly less well educated than Japanese peasants who didn’t have to be emancipated??? Maybe Japanese peasant devotion to the Emperor was critically different from somewhat Bolshie-but-Christian attitudes to their social superiors amongst the Russian masses. Then again the Russian economy was taking off before WW1 when the war undid everything. Yes I think I have left it that the Japanese takeoff was unique without quite putting my finger on an explanation. For the Russian contrast: more IQ points and less alcohol perhaps?

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  77. denk says:
    @denk
    Due to explosive increase in bi-lateral trade and prez Park's affinity to Chinese culture, Sk and China had their honeymoon since 2010.
    This annoyed uncle scam to no end, a murkka/Jp/Sk triumvirate was supposed to be the coveted vanguard of the anti Chinese posse'.
    What to do about yet another threat of *peace* ?
    The Nk card, worked every time. !

    The Nk boogeyman has already enabled uncle scam to hold onto its Okinawa colony despite fierce local opposition, perpetuated the Sk/murkka 'defence' pact which put the Sk armed forces under the command of a four star murkkan general, planted Wmds in Jeju island, right at China's doorstep !
    This time it let Washington rammed THAAD down Sk's throat , despite mdm Park's reluctance to piss off Sk's number one trading partner.

    Beijing was furious.

    From this to this

    *The Wrecker* in Washington heave a sigh of relief.
    Another 'threat' neutralised. !

    Jp
    Sk,
    Ph,
    Vn,
    Sg,
    Malaysia,
    Indon,
    Myanmar,
    Nepal,
    Sri LaNka,
    Bangladesh,
    ………………………………

    Erecting a cordon sanitaire around China, one country at the time.

    How could we forget India , the ‘pivot’ of uncle scam’s ‘asia pivot’ ?
    It was there in the 1900 ‘rape of Peking’, aka ‘eight nations alliance’.
    RAW was in cahoot with CIA in that 1959 tibet caper,
    It was there in the invasion of China, 1962, at the behest of BOTH USA, USSR !
    Delhi was again up to its eyeball in the 2008 tibet destabilisation.

    While its true that India under Modi has jumped fully in bed with uncle scam,
    Fact is, there wasnt a western subterfuge against China that Bharat hasnt liked !
    India had actually signed up for the “eight nations alliance mark II’ way back in 2005.

    *unitedsnake/delhi are building an alliance that is bound to alarm
    the Chinese, who cannot fail to see it as directed against them. There is
    absolutely no evidence for aggressive Chinese intentions towards India or
    anywhere in South Asia, but Washington and New Delhi are laying the
    foundations for a new Cold War in Asia
    .* [1]

    [1]

    http://tinyurl.com/jv35abc

    p.s.
    alternate media seem to be infested with trolls who post rubbish.
    The drivels spewed by ‘woo‘ here is so inanne ,it makes one wonder if he’s paid
    to provoke serious commentators into endless disruptive flame wars ?

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  78. @Astuteobservor II
    why would iran allow it self be used again? why would china be content with scraps and leavings at our table when it is already having a full course meal? why can't iran deal with china directly like it is already doing?

    with our track record, even if we did a 180 on all our policies towards china and iran, it would take decades for them to even begin trust us.

    180: phew on “trust”. The respective ruling critters know and recognize their counter parts.

    Iran: Russia along with Great Britiain are Iran’s historic enemies. Fact. Not that Iranians have anything against them.

    China: has precisely 0 years of experience running Empires outside of greater China. This, with over few thousands years of history. The World will never accept Chinese rule. They will be OK with a a face-saving structure.

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    GB is correct, why would iran consider russia to be an enemy? that is news to me. could you explain?

    china doesn't want an empire, it only wants to trade and make money. when it starts building hundreds of military bases around the world, that is when I will agree with your assessment.

    , @in the middle
    The issue here is what the meaning of Empire means. The rule of commerce and the elite. thus the American Empire is not really political, but commercial, i.e. American conglomerates running the commercial world. Now that the Germans in Europe and the Chinamen in Asia are going to and fro the earth purchasing companies right and left, they become a dangerous commercial adversary. Notice, when you go shopping, find a product made in USA. My house is full of products made in China! TVs, Stereos, PCs, Lop tops, etc. So, we have become inundated by products not made in our Country. So how is our economy going to bloom? that is a question with no answers at this time. We are simple reselling stuff made by other than American hands.
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  79. @Anonymous
    I am not Hans, but I too doubt the holocost narrative. I'm sure Jews were rounded up and killled, just like a lot of other groups.

    But my experience with Jews has led me to believe that Jews amplify and exaggerate what happens to them all the time.

    So to me it is plausible that say 600,000 Jews died in WW2, the Jewish elite would spin it as 6 million. The six million number showed up before WW2, so why should we believe that number as fact?

    so why should we believe that number as fact?

    Indeed.

    Allowing for a maximum of 100,000 who succeeded in emigrating from Europe, this would bring the total number of Jews under the direct rule of Nazi Germany to about 3,200,000.

    AMERICAN JEWISH YEAR BOOK, pg 664

    http://www.ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/Files/1941_1942_9_Statistics.pdf

    I hope the link still works.

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  80. @Wizard of Oz
    Do you seriously think Filipinos regard China, right next door, as having less of a relevant record of using force to get its way than the US? They've overlooked Korea, threats to Taiwan, Tibet, the Uighurs, the starvation of their own in the Great Leap Forward, letting loose the Red Guard in the Cultural Revolution, invading India, invading Vietnam, Tianmen Square.... just for most of the highlights since 1949 when the Nationalists used force on the Taiwanese..??

    I’m not so sure that Pinoys have felt the effects of Chinese boots; what most seem to fear is the economic stranglehold that Filipinos of Chinese descent have on the Phils.

    I believe, for instance, that the SM Mega malls (huge things) and Philippine Airlines are owned by Henry Sy and Lucia Tan respectively, both of whom are “Chinese na Chinese” (very Chinese).

    To this day many Pinoys resent a lot of what America has done since it betrayed the Pinoy freedom fighters back around 1900, and for its backing of the corrupt thug, Ferdinand Marcos, to name just two huge no-nos.

    I have a picture somewhere of a bullet lodged in the mahogany door of an upper room of the Pastor residence in Batangas that was intended for Taft when he was governor of the Phils. A gunman climbed a tree and fired at him through an open window but missed. Noticing that after a private piano concert there a few years ago and hearing the story help sober me up to the evils of American military adventurism in the West Pacific.

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  81. @Wizard of Oz
    I have Japanese relations - or connections as they might be in Jane Austen. Wonderful people who make you scratch your head and wonder how they can be from the same rematkably homogeneous stock as those who did what we know the Japanese did in the 30s and 40s. They also make it easy to understand how Japanese diligence and intelligence made it unique in its rapid climb to material modernity. But of course it is simplistic to say it wasn't a gift of the West because they were given ready access to the examples in the West of what they wanted to emulate and, to use an apt analogy for what they did before WW2 when Japanese consumer goods were regarded as "tinny" (like British cars in the 50s!), they were able to produce the generics at least as soon as IP expired.

    Were they in fact unique? Russia under Peter the Great and some of his successors began to take off in much the same way, learning from the West and making up for the (relevant) deficiencies of Russian culture compared to Japanese by employing lots of non-Russians, mostly Germans but others too.

    "Gift" is of course naively inappropriate if taken too literally in relation to what is called carelessly "colonialism" in, to simplifythe Western story, the spread of Anglophone modernity around the world. Emerging from the Malthusian world in which much of Africa and S and SW Asia still lives the amcient imperative to expand commamd pf resources was fortunately combined in the British case (and yes, some good things can be said about Jesuits and other orders in the case of other Europeans) with evangelical zeal for education, beginning steps in modern medicine and hygeine, and general highminded dogoodism based on Jesus's supposed teaching, plus state of the art economic modernisation consistent with the self-interest of the East India Company and its like. To take a few short cuts India - the big one - ruled by its own native hierarchy and only a handful of Brits (who were not colonists in the original Greek sense or as in America or Australasia) was lucky that its inevitable undemocratic rule by some one or more thoroughly unrepresentative powers was by the leaders by at least two generations in the early stages in the creation of the modern world through scientific revolution, industrial revolution, Enlightenment**, rule of law and representative institutions** and that English and education in English was so advantageous.

    One doesn't have to attribute special virtue to the British mongrel stock to say all that. There were objective factors like the Brits living on a very fertile island with a temperate climate and, after the Vikings and Normans, natural defences that only needed a small efficient navy to allow developments, including experiments, that land borders on the Continent did not protect. Add in coal and accumulated capital from trade (yes, including the slave and sugar trading) and it was possible to run a succesful strong state with still (indeed suddenly after the early 1700s) burgeoning population but many people reaching the higher levels of Maslow's hierarchy of needs and flavouring the whole polity thereby. So... better to be ruled by some "Others" than others. And as a check, ask why neither the civilused Chinese nor the covilised Indians -Muslim or Hindu - picked up the Western ball and ran with it like the Japanese. If you are going to say glibly, because it fits the dates, that Western interference in China and India was so great by the time Japan opened up and progressed under Japanese rule please don't just be opportunistically glib but make an informed case. (You might like to incorporate reference to Clark's "A Farewell to Alms: a Brief Economic History of the World" and Eric Jones's "The European Miracle").

    ** don't quibble please. I know the history of representative institutions and of the French, American, English and Scottish Enlightenents is not to be summarised in a few words. But rule of law, after Roman times anyway, does seem to have been an achievment or at least aspiration first of the Common Law world (interesting to speculate about the influences on Scottish law and judicature and on Roman Dutch law in Sri Lanka and South Africa).

    …as those who did what we know the Japanese did in the 30s and 40s.

    While I don’t know what you think you know, I think what you know is probably propaganda based, and i don’t say that in a snarky tone.

    Here’s why I say that…

    “Revisionism as applied to World War II and its origins (as also for previous wars) has the general function of bringing historical truth to an American and a world public that had been drugged by wartime lies and propaganda.
    The least of the lessons that revisionism can teach has already been thoroughly learned ( ed: by a select few): that Germany and Japan are not uniquely “aggressor nations,” doomed from birth to menace the peace of the world. The larger lessons have, unfortunately, yet to be learned.”
    Now revisionism teaches us that this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.
    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler’s Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”
    Murray Rothbard, Revisionism for Our Times, 1966. Note: This gentleman was also Jewish.

    http://mises.org/daily/2592

    Also, reading Lindbergh’s memoirs will give one a different view regarding the truth. In brief, the Japanese soldiers were not the fanatics portrayed, nor were American soldiers the gallant knights in shining armor as the myths have it. Quite the hair raising opposite. And no, Lindy was not an anti-Semite as he’s been smeared. And no, he was no philanderer as sicky Wikipedia probably still claims.

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    No, it's absolutely nothing to do with propaganda. I have, just to start with a small snippet, the contrast in what two close relations told me about their incarceration as POWs of the Germans and the Japanese. The former sent his son to stay with a German family he didn't know in the 50s to learn German but the latter wouldn't even do business as a stockbroker with the Japanese. Then there were the Korean and Chinese "comfort women", the 1937 rape and massacres in Nanking, the Bataan Death March and other incontrovertible atrocities. One might say that it was just an example in the modern world of natural primitive behaviour towards outsiders to the tribe but an academic friend in Japan married to a Japanese tells me that the ordinary Japanese peasant soldiers of the 30s and 30s were deliberately brutalised because their superiors regarded them as little softies and wimps compared with big tough Westerners.

    As I said the contrast with the Japanese I am closest to is enormous.

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  82. @jacques sheete

    ...as those who did what we know the Japanese did in the 30s and 40s.
     
    While I don't know what you think you know, I think what you know is probably propaganda based, and i don't say that in a snarky tone.

    Here's why I say that...


    “Revisionism as applied to World War II and its origins (as also for previous wars) has the general function of bringing historical truth to an American and a world public that had been drugged by wartime lies and propaganda.
    The least of the lessons that revisionism can teach has already been thoroughly learned ( ed: by a select few): that Germany and Japan are not uniquely "aggressor nations," doomed from birth to menace the peace of the world. The larger lessons have, unfortunately, yet to be learned.”
    Now revisionism teaches us that this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth.
    If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler's Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions…”
    Murray Rothbard, Revisionism for Our Times, 1966. Note: This gentleman was also Jewish.
    http://mises.org/daily/2592
     
    Also, reading Lindbergh's memoirs will give one a different view regarding the truth. In brief, the Japanese soldiers were not the fanatics portrayed, nor were American soldiers the gallant knights in shining armor as the myths have it. Quite the hair raising opposite. And no, Lindy was not an anti-Semite as he's been smeared. And no, he was no philanderer as sicky Wikipedia probably still claims.

    No, it’s absolutely nothing to do with propaganda. I have, just to start with a small snippet, the contrast in what two close relations told me about their incarceration as POWs of the Germans and the Japanese. The former sent his son to stay with a German family he didn’t know in the 50s to learn German but the latter wouldn’t even do business as a stockbroker with the Japanese. Then there were the Korean and Chinese “comfort women”, the 1937 rape and massacres in Nanking, the Bataan Death March and other incontrovertible atrocities. One might say that it was just an example in the modern world of natural primitive behaviour towards outsiders to the tribe but an academic friend in Japan married to a Japanese tells me that the ordinary Japanese peasant soldiers of the 30s and 30s were deliberately brutalised because their superiors regarded them as little softies and wimps compared with big tough Westerners.

    As I said the contrast with the Japanese I am closest to is enormous.

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  83. denk says:

    Lots of people are saying the ‘pivot’ is kaput, apparently the murkkan sec of offense didnt get that memo !

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/04/usch-o04.html

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    'pivot' is kaput ?

    uncle scam sez,
    Not on your life !

    Here comes the deputy !

    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/11/02/auin-n02.html
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  84. Great article! Thanks a lot. I suppose it also would be interesting to read this thing http://tinyurl.com/h9fogxa if you are interested in history of USA hegemony in Asia.

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  85. denk says:
    @denk
    Lots of people are saying the 'pivot' is kaput, apparently the murkkan sec of offense didnt get that memo !

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/04/usch-o04.html

    ‘pivot’ is kaput ?

    uncle scam sez,
    Not on your life !

    Here comes the deputy !

    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/11/02/auin-n02.html

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  86. @survey-of-disinfo
    180: phew on "trust". The respective ruling critters know and recognize their counter parts.

    Iran: Russia along with Great Britiain are Iran's historic enemies. Fact. Not that Iranians have anything against them.

    China: has precisely 0 years of experience running Empires outside of greater China. This, with over few thousands years of history. The World will never accept Chinese rule. They will be OK with a a face-saving structure.

    GB is correct, why would iran consider russia to be an enemy? that is news to me. could you explain?

    china doesn’t want an empire, it only wants to trade and make money. when it starts building hundreds of military bases around the world, that is when I will agree with your assessment.

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  87. […] Par James Petras – Le 24 octobre 2016 – Source UNZ Review […]

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  88. @anon_the_nth

    They can still depend on the THAAD to keep China and its capital in their crosshairs, at least so long as they don’t alienate South Korea.

     

    THAAD in Korea is bypassed as rockets to USA would fly more over Mongolia and Russia, not over South Korea due to earth curvature.

    due to earth curvature.

    what none sense! Thank goodness the planners know that there is not such curvature!

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  89. @Anonymous
    I am not Hans, but I too doubt the holocost narrative. I'm sure Jews were rounded up and killled, just like a lot of other groups.

    But my experience with Jews has led me to believe that Jews amplify and exaggerate what happens to them all the time.

    So to me it is plausible that say 600,000 Jews died in WW2, the Jewish elite would spin it as 6 million. The six million number showed up before WW2, so why should we believe that number as fact?

    “I do not believe that telling the truth about Jews — even the ugly truths — is something that ‘promotes hatred’ of Jews — at least not among intelligent people. If, for example, we point out that most Jews believe in and promote the Orthodox Jewish Version of the Holocaust, we are not claiming that they are evil any more than the many non-Jews who believe and promote the same story — we are only saying that they are misguided and need to be properly informed. This, of course, does not keep believers in the Orthodox Jewish Version — whether Jews or gentiles — from hating US when we point out its falsity, and indeed, this is what they often do; but that only means that the worst we could be accused of is that, in telling the truth, we promote hatred of OURSELVES.” –JBR Yant

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  90. @survey-of-disinfo
    180: phew on "trust". The respective ruling critters know and recognize their counter parts.

    Iran: Russia along with Great Britiain are Iran's historic enemies. Fact. Not that Iranians have anything against them.

    China: has precisely 0 years of experience running Empires outside of greater China. This, with over few thousands years of history. The World will never accept Chinese rule. They will be OK with a a face-saving structure.

    The issue here is what the meaning of Empire means. The rule of commerce and the elite. thus the American Empire is not really political, but commercial, i.e. American conglomerates running the commercial world. Now that the Germans in Europe and the Chinamen in Asia are going to and fro the earth purchasing companies right and left, they become a dangerous commercial adversary. Notice, when you go shopping, find a product made in USA. My house is full of products made in China! TVs, Stereos, PCs, Lop tops, etc. So, we have become inundated by products not made in our Country. So how is our economy going to bloom? that is a question with no answers at this time. We are simple reselling stuff made by other than American hands.

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