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Introduction

The Trump regime proclaimed that the vote in the General Assembly of the United Nations regarding the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel was a strategic US decision.

Both President Trump and his bombastic UN Ambassador Nikki Haley threatened that all decisions and agreements regarding alliances, loans, aid and diplomatic relations were at stake.

Moreover, the Trump regime clearly defined the style and substance of US imperial dictates: All UN member nations (large and small) must grovel in the most abject manner to his orders. Ambassador Haley demanded that each nation on earth accept Trump’s and the racist-Zionist Netanyahu’s declaration that the ancient city of Jerusalem is the eternal, undivided and ethnically managed capital of the Jews. Trump’s message was loud and clear – he was the great ‘decider’ and the UN votes would identify America’s true friends and enemies. “We are making a list… and there will be consequences…”

Clearly Trump’s boast of US power and Haley’s assumption that her terrifying threats would ensure that Washington had a majority vote in the ‘gifting’ of Jerusalem to Zio-fascism. They believed that US dominance and global hegemony was absolute and unassailable. The vote proved something else, something very new was happening.

The US suffered an overwhelming and humiliating defeat, one that kept Ambassador Haley dexterous fingers busy ‘taking notes’: 128 nations demanded that the Trump regime withdraw its declaration that Jerusalem was Israel’s undivided capital for Jews. Only 9 micro-nations (some mere postage stamps and a few death-squad banana-stans) voted with the Trump-Haley decision, 35 mendicant-states put their heads down and abstained while 21 timorous ambassadors chose to hide their shamelessness in the toilet stalls rather than show up for this important vote.

Political Context

First and foremost it is important to discuss the steps leading up to the US suffering such a crushing debacle. In other words, who was responsible for leading the Trump Administration by the nose down the blind alley of submission to the dictates of Zio-fascism.

The leader and driving force behind the UN disaster was Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu whose quest to seize Jerusalem and convert it into the ‘eternal’ capital of the Jews was his top priority. For decades the entire world has rejected Israel’s seizure of Jerusalem and its conversion into an ethnically cleansed capital for the ‘Jewish’ state. The UN and international jurists denounced Israel’s colonial conquest and ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

Netanyahu took charge with the election of Donald Trump as President. Operation Jerusalem was his first order to Puppet Donald. A number of Israel-First multi-billionaires, who financed Trump’s electoral campaign, demanded an immediate pay-off from their puppet: The Administration’s unconditional support for Netanyahu’s agenda. Despite protests from the rest of the world, especially the US closest European allies, Trump plunged the nation right into the Zionist soup: a Jewish Jerusalem; the systematic eviction of all Arabs, Christian, Muslim and secular, and the eventual annexation of all of Palestine; as well as an increasing military confrontation with Iran.

Real estate speculator, Jared Kushner, Trump’s pampered son-in- law, and a complete Netanyahu flunky, became the senior advisor for the Middle East. Kushner pressured Trump’s National Security Advisor General Michael Flynn to intervene with Russia on behalf of Israel’s take-over of Jerusalem. Flynn was subsequently prosecuted for discussing global US Russian relations and the ‘good soldier’ is falling on his sword on behalf of the Zionists. Not surprising, the Congressional Democrats, the FBI and the Special Prosecutor found it easier to prosecute Flynn for his discussion regarding de-escalating the tense US-Russian relations provoked by the Obama administration than his discussions with the Kremlin in support of Israel’s seizure of Jerusalem!

Netanyahu’s operational weapons in manipulating US policy involved Jared Kushner, the billionaire Israel-First donors, the AIPAC and UN Ambassador Nikki Haley. Tel Aviv succeeded in securing Trump’s commitment to the Israeli agenda, despite opposition from the entire UN National Security Council and the overwhelming majority of the General Assembly. In the style of a typical authoritarian, US President Trump grovels at the feet of his ‘superior’, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, while tearing at the throats of his ‘inferiors’, the 193 member nations of the UN General Assembly.

Netanyahu’s vitriolic bar room threats against the entire membership of the UN prior to the vote ensured the repudiation of all Security Council representatives with the exception of his South Carolina puppet, Ambassador Nikki Haley. Trump and Haley backed the blustering Netanyahu by issuing gangland threats to all UN representatives who dare to oppose Washington’s dictates.

In this way, Prime Minister Netanyahu secured the greatest diplomatic and political success of his career – the total submission of the US to his agenda, at the risk of a major humiliation in the UN. This, in effect, formalized Israeli hegemony over Washington, for the world to see.

In contrast to Netanyahu’s beaming success, the US suffered a historic diplomatic defeat: Fourteen times as many nations voted against the demands of the US President over– Netanyahu’s grab of Jerusalem.

What makes the defeat even more striking is the fact that all major allies and most of the biggest aid recipients openly defied the US threats. Eight of the ten biggest US aid recipients voted against Trump–Netanyahu–Haley. This bizarre troika is now left with an enemy list circling the entire globe, and a few timorous allies in the South Pacific and among the death squads of Guatemala.

Trump’s total and puerile embrace of the raving Netanyahu has exposed and widened fissures in US global hegemony.

Apart from ‘capturing’ Netanyahu’s vote, the other pro Trump nations included a handful of insignificant Pacific islands (Marshall Islands, Palau, Micronesia), Togo, a corrupt African mini-state and two banana-sized ‘death squad democracies’, Honduras and Guatemala. The latter two regimes hold power via stolen elections backed by narco-thugs in the pay (dubbed ‘foreign aid’) of the US.

ORDER IT NOW

All of the leading Asian and Western European countries voted against Trump. They openly rejected the crude blackmail of the US-Israel duet. Subservient regimes in Eastern Europe, corrupt regimes in Latin America and some horrifically impoverished nations in Africa and Asia chose to abstain or excuse themselves to the bathrooms of Times Square. Narco-neo-liberal regimes in Mexico, Colombia, Paraguay, Panama and the Dominican Republic abstained. Even rightwing Eastern European regimes, which usually give unquestioned support to all US demands, like Romania, Bosnia, Poland and Latvia defied Nikki Haley’s ‘name taking’ by abstaining. The ‘no-shows’ (hiding in the toilets) included US puppets like Georgia, Samoa, St Kitts and Tonga.

An openly humiliated UN Ambassador Haley was left with the task of thanking the abstainers and ‘no-shows’ for their courage and preparing a few bags of goodies (matzos, Mogan David wine and discounts to the brothels of Tel Aviv) for the torturers of Honduras and half-drowned ‘leaders’ of Palau in gratitude for such loyalty.

Conclusion

Clearly Trump’s championing of a racist, colonialist, ethnic cleansing state like Israel is view as a strategic diplomatic disaster. The Manhattan egomaniac has tied the US fortunes to the whims of a pariah state led by a complete lunatic.

Trump’s decision to demonstrate total loyalty to his Zionist billionaire campaign ‘donor-owners’ and his Israel-First son-in-law in his first major foreign policy decision failed to impress any of the influential nations of the world – East or West. Indeed, it showed how fractured and dangerously dysfunctional the US Administration had become.

Most important, Trump’s proclamation of a unipolar world based on his notion of the US’s economic power has collapsed. Israel, despite Haley’s bluster and list-taking, has no legitimacy. It’s continued Mossad assassinations of leading Palestinians and others and the increasing IDF slaughter of the spontaneous Palestinian civilian resistance has failed to improve its international standing – except among Guatemalan torturers.

However, it is not clear that the US has lost its big power influence regarding other regional conflicts. The subsequent UN Security Council vote in favor of Washington’s demands for added sanctions against North Korea demonstrated Trump’s power to intimidate the oligarchs and leaders of China and Russia.

In other words, limits on US power still depend on the issues, the allies, the diplomatic appeals, the adversaries and the distribution of benefits and costs.

In the case of Jerusalem, Real Estate Mogul Trump’s bizarre decision to hand an entire city over to the Zionists alienated all Muslims and Christians the world over, as well as the secular Western liberal nations and emerging powers, like Russia and China. The US tied its prestige to the whims of a paranoid nation arrogantly flaunting its racist superiority complex, backed by groups of immensely wealthy overseas dual citizens.

Diplomatically, Israel’s vituperative responses to any legal criticism from world bodies undermines its chances of coalition building.

Finally, Washington’s support for Israel’s perpetual and overt violation of international law and its bombing of humanitarian missions makes Israel a very costly ally.

 
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  1. The wonderful Professor James Petras. May political/militant Zionism implode and fade away in the pages of history to the nether regions of failures. Palestine Is Still THE Issue!!

    • Replies: @Man on the street
  2. Where Israel puts its capital is none of America’s business.
    But if the Jerusalem decision helps damage America’s imperial ambitions, hooray for Trump! Even if he meant to do the opposite.

    • Replies: @Alden
  3. Karl says:

    > The US suffered an overwhelming and humiliating defeat

    the Third World commentators (in their own newspapers, which I do read) are parroting the same story.

    Raise your hand if you give a fuck, what the Peanut Gallery says.

    Petras is now pinning his hopes for a new government job, on the re-installation of the black Muslims into power in Washington.

    Three quarters of the white Muslims are already cutting their deals with the Israelis.

  4. @Karl

    Raise your hand if you give a fuck, what the Peanut Gallery says.

    this is why the power of us diplomacy died. too many retards think this way.

    • Replies: @Altai
  5. @roberthstiver

    If the Zionists print all currencies in the world, own all banks, and media; your wish may never come true.

    • Replies: @Anon
  6. Altai says:

    If the other parties in Israel don’t act soon and depose Likud, this will be the end of Israel. The blind ignorance of reciprocation, limits on actions to outsiders and how others perceive them whilst still claiming to be a victims, this is what the anti-semites claimed were essentially Jewish characteristics and this is the nature of the only Jewish state… This is not going to end well.

    And as the author states, the open display of the Israel lobby in ever greater intensities every administration as well as the whole ‘goy bye’ Bannon thing and gutting of all the non-interventionists in Trumps admin with all the hardcore warmongering Jewish zionists being ignored by the media vendettas against him is clear as day.

    The strangle hold of this lobby seems to only grow. Here is Conan O’Brien fresh off essentially calling Trump Hitler and saying he’d never interview him going off to Israel to pal around with Netanyahu’s dog! I guess Muslims are really special when they’re denied access to the US but when they’re ethnically cleansed from their homeland in an apartheid state it’s cool.

    He also did a bit promoting the humane IDF hospitals on the Syrian border. How noble of them. (He ignores Israeli support for ISIS which prolonged the civil war and armed the most viscious and sectarian participants, of course) These would be the same hospitals that are said to be mainly treating anti-Assad salafist groups including ISIS.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Z-man
  7. Altai says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    The boomers and Libertarians will die soon. It’s why the alt-right will fail in it’s current incarnation. It’s essentially just people with so little empathy and ability to understand others (As well as the kind of dumb fanatical nationalism that believes their country is always right and has never done wrong, because otherwise they don’t know how can you argue back against people who want to dissolute your nation.) that they were immune to the multicultural propaganda, so were the only ones ideologically organised when it began to become too much of a burden and people felt more open to criticise it.

    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
  8. @Karl

    Three quarters of the white Muslims…

    There are “white Muslims”?

    Two of the biggest statistical gulfs between white and black Americans are naming a son DeShawn, and converting to Islam.

    Milano cookies and yogurt-covered raisins come to mind.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Seamus Padraig
  9. Erebus says:

    There’s another way to view this.

    Going into the vote, 2 things were known to the participants:
    - that the move to Jerusalem was driven by Israel,
    - the vote’s outcome, at least in broad strokes.
    By the time Haley spewed her threats, the backroom & hallway polling and arm-twisting would have been done and the results anticipated. So, why make empty threats?

    What the vote really did, was demonstrate to Israelis just how isolated they are, and to Americans just how onerous a monkey Israel is to have on one’s back.

    The Trump Administration went all-in with bizarre, comic-book threats to drive those messages home with their intended audiences, thus setting up future moves vis-a-vis Israel in particular and MENA more generally.

    I can’t think of a politically safer, or more effective way to formulate and convey those messages.

  10. Stogumber says:

    Petras has no sense of the realities. Here in Europe, the Jerusalem question is at best “controversial”, which means people want to sit on the fence and sit it out – whereas the criminalisation of BDS (boycott, divestment, sanctions) makes great progress.

  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    How does the US manages to choose such a poor iliterate , histrionic,figures as ambassadors to the UN ? : Nikki Nikki , Samanta power , Susan rice , madeline albright ……..

  12. What I do not read is that the number of countries USA citizens can visit safely has gone down further, I suppose.

  13. Karl says:

    8 Reg Ceaser > There are “white Muslims”?

    would you like me to tour you around the Circassian villages of Israel?

  14. Ronan says:

    Why do people seem so surprised at every pro-Israel step that the US makes?

    Tel Aviv, NOT washington, has been the de facto capitol of the US for decades. The Israelis know this while everyone else remains blind, dumb, and ignorant, willfully or otherwise.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  15. Miro23 says:

    Finally, Washington’s support for Israel’s perpetual and overt violation of international law and its bombing of humanitarian missions makes Israel a very costly ally.

    Costly to who?

    Netanyahu and the US Zionists couldn’t care less about the cost to the US public (98% Goys).

    Using the “Is it good for Israel?” test, everything is going fine – massive transfers of US aid and military technology , visa free travel, dual-citizenship “Americans” in top government positions, a 100% propagandist media and the destruction of Afghanistan/Iraq/Libya/Syria etc. at an ongoing cost of $5 Trillion+ all approved by Congress with obligatory standing ovations for Netanyahu.

  16. @Karl

    Raise your hand if you give a fuck, what the Peanut Gallery says.

    Raise your hand if you give a fuck, what the Zio-Peanut Gallery says.

    Then prepare to get your arses kicked. The scum of the world deserves nothing but scorn.

    PS: More to come.

  17. @Anonymous

    How does the US manages to choose such a poor iliterate , histrionic,figures as ambassadors to the UN ? : Nikki Nikki , Samanta power , Susan rice , madeline albright

    It’s hard to believe, but despite the size, there’s little to choose from. For more evidence look at the retards that run for office and obtain it. McStain is a prime example.

    The place has long been a moral and intellectual cesspool. The good guys died out or were assassinated starting a little around a century ago.

    Any dispassionate observer can see that the empire was built on lies, murder, theft and debt (for which the underclasses are sent the bill) and we’re living the results. It’s too bad such a monstrosity has lived so long.

  18. @Anonymous

    I miss Bolton.
    The man is so stupid that UN staff had much trouble hiding their laughing.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Twodees Partain
  19. wayfarer says:

    “Why so serious?”

    Nikki “the hag whore” Haley, an AIPAC brown-noser and invested partner in Zionist engineered global genocide.

  20. annamaria says:
    @Altai

    Conan O’Brien, an important American presstitute.

  21. annamaria says:
    @Erebus

    Agree.
    “Prime Minister Netanyahu secured the greatest diplomatic and political success of his career – the total submission of the US to his agenda… This, in effect, formalized Israeli hegemony over Washington, for the world to see.”
    The picture is now very clear for all: a voracious parasite [Israel] manchng on a large juicy host [US] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovo_T0KqdYg
    “The parasitoid Jewel Wasp (Ampulex compressa) uses cockroaches (Periplaneta americana) as a live fresh food supply for its offspring. The wasp injects venom directly into the cockroach brain to control its behavior, which ends in a slow horrifying death of the cockroach”

  22. annamaria says:
    @Stogumber

    “…the criminalisation of BDS (boycott, divestment, sanctions) makes great progress.”
    — Yeah, down with the Bill of Rights and other trifles like the freedom of speech and freedom of assembly because Israel wants it its way. Truly a great progress against western civilization

  23. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Man on the street

    If they can do that, don’t they deserve to be the (Western) world’s guide?

    If they can do that (or do that already), shouldn’t we ask ourselves if things would be being better or worse, if another human group were in the driver’s seat?

    Historical thinking could use more “if”s than it does.
    It’s easy to see, for example, the abuse on the part of the USA on many other countries in the 20th century.

    But, had another country in the world enjoyed the economic/military superiority to the rest of the world the USA did — how would things have been? Better? Worse?

    Power corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. It’s short-sighted to look at the powerless, and infer their moral superiority. We should see them given power, prior to our evaluation of them.

    What this in sum tells us is: any moral judgment in history is hazarduous and relative.

  24. annamaria says:
    @Miro23

    “…dual-citizenship “Americans” in top government positions, a 100% propagandist media…”
    — Reposting the illustration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovo_T0KqdYg

  25. Z-man says:
    @Altai

    LOL! The mediocre comedian knows who butters his bread.

  26. Z-man says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Unfortunately Bolton and other whack jobs like Peters and that retired general who sounds like a New York longshoreman Keane are always on the Fox airwaves spewing their Neocon bought off stupidity.

  27. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Pour us all a glass of Mogan David wine – when you’re writing fiction make sure to obscure the brand names.

    This is all about power, fasten as many labels as possible and watch the show from the UN playhouse, NY, NY.

    Incidentally Flynn is DIA, which means protected actor status. Prosecution means moving into the business end of militarism: consulting, propaganda, pornography, visiting professor and news guest.

  28. Israels puppet Trump just jumps through the hoops when Netanyahu cracks the whip and this just proves again that Zionist dual citizens rule the U.S. gov.

    Israel and the U.S. deep state did 911 and that proves that Israel and the traitors in our government are under Zionist rule, America is a captive nation.

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig, Druid
  29. yeah says:
    @Anonymous

    Actually, there is a distinct trend here which you have missed. The trend is up, way, way up. We are measuring the trend of stupidity, abrasiveness, and shrillness (call it the “SAS quotient”) of the USA’s UN representatives. Ms. Samantha Powers had a much louder shrieking power than the elderly Ms. Albright, and Nikki Haley’s stupidity exceeds that of the preceding two ladies.

  30. sabasarge says:

    Wow….there is so much BS in this piece it’s hard to know where to start. The only ethnic cleansing done here was when Jordan illegally occupied the eastern portion of Jerusalem is 1948 and threw out the centuries-old Jewish community while also destroying ancient synagogues and cemetaries. Not a peep from the world.
    I always get a laugh at those leveling the “ethnic cleansing” charge at Israel when in fact since 1967 when Israel took control of Judea and Samaria the Palestinians have seen infant mortality rates plummit and life expectancey skyrocket. If we are comitting ethnic cleansing we are pretty damn bad at it.
    Funny how nobody mentions the offers of Barak and Olmert that would have given the Pals half of Jerusalem and at least 95-97% of Judea and Samaria, with even a physical overland bridge to Gaza. Of course those offers were turned down without even a counter-offer because a real peace with Israel has never been the goal. Hell, Olmert was (quite stupidly) ready to give back the Golan to Syria. Hmmm, how would that have turned out?
    The historical ignorance shown here in mind-boggling. Jerusalem has never meant sh*t to Muslims, until of course Israel gained complete control. 400 years of Muslim Ottoman control and Jerusalem remained a filthy backwater outpost for them. 19 years of Jordanian control and not one Muslim leader came for a visit to their oh-so-holy site.
    I could go on and on, but facts will never matter to those who continue to propagate and perpetuate this crap. Goebbels had it right when he said that a big enough lie repeated often enough soon becomes the truth.

  31. Why it is such a big deal morons.
    Nobody died!

  32. @sabasarge

    In the Quran the command to pray in the direction of Mecca is next to the command to pray in the direction of Jerusalem.
    The Quaran is as inconsistent as the bible, when the statements of Mohammed were put down in writing, long after he died, the argument about which one was the right one, was ‘solved’, by sorting them with regard to subject.
    When extremist jews planned to demolish the El Aqsa mosque the Israeli government realised it would be suicide for Israel, and prevented it.

    • Replies: @sabasarge
  33. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    , and converting to Islam.

    I believe that is how the concept of divine fairness works, and the reason why whites (and other “advanced” societies like Japan, Korea, etc.) for the most part will never accept True Monotheism, and will continue to wallow in Pagan Polytheist Human Worship, or simply Godlessness. Or, in other words, Spiritual Loser-hood.

    Incredible (but finite) glory in this world… Eternal (and hellish) disgrace in the hereafter.

    I don’t know about you fellows, but that sounds like a terrible bargain to me.

    Enjoy!

  34. @jilles dykstra

    Bolton is both retarded and insane. I’m surprised Trump didn’t appoint him to a position in his cabinet.

  35. sabasarge says:
    @jilles dykstra

    More ignorance. The Koran does not mention Jerusalem even once (the Hebrew bible mentions it hundreds of times). Mohammed tried influencing the Jews of Medina (when it was a mostly Jewish town) to convert to his new religion by changing the direction towards their (the Jews) holy city. When that didn’t work, he slaughtered them and changed it back to Mecca.

  36. @Altai

    Your comments on Israel were on point, but it is painfully obvious that you know nothing about the alt-Right. Alt-Righties are very critical of the US and its policies–arguably even more critical than the normies. True nationalism means defending one’s country, not the corrupt élite that presently runs it. It does not mean buying into the lies coming from the media and the government, whether the lies concern domestic policy or foreign policy. We know that our country is currently dominated by zionists, banksters, and SJW-charlatans, and we know that they’re lying to us about Israel/Palestine, along with almost every other issue under the sun.

    • Replies: @Brooklyn Dave
  37. @Reg Cæsar

    There are “white Muslims”?

    Bosnia-Herzigovina has them.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  38. @Stogumber

    Hasbara, and such obvious claptrap that your paymasters should probably cut your rate.

  39. @Ronan

    It’s a horrible reality that the entire US establishment is infested with Zionists and neocons. I had hoped that Trump might have been able to keep his campaign promises and rescind the disastrous foreign policies that the Zionist lobby and its neocon allies have imposed on the US. Clearly I was deluded. It is going to take a revolution to remove the USA’s Zionist and neocon infestation.

  40. sabasarge says:

    …….and BTW, the Koran very explicitly mentions the Jewish Temple on the Mount. Today’s revisionist Muslims and anti-Semites ignore this. Just as Muslims everywhere they conquer destroy churchs and synagogues and put in their place mosques, so did they on the Temple Mount.
    Muslims are the truest and most prolific “occupiers” the world has ever seen, spreading out from Arabia (Arabia=Arabs, Judea=Jews) to conquer and occupy what today is 20+ nations, subjugating and destroying indiginous populations all along the way. For Arabs to call Jews “occupiers” when at least they have a deep historical connnection to the land they returned to is the hutzpah to the nth degree.
    Ask the Copts or Berbers just who exactly the TRUE occupiers are, as only a couple of examples.
    Really folks, learn real history for a change.

    • Replies: @Allan
  41. @sabasarge

    The historical ignorance shown here in mind-boggling. Jerusalem has never meant sh*t to Muslims, until of course Israel gained complete control.

    You have obviously never heard of the Crusades. Jerusalem historically meant a lot to both Christians and Moslems, which is why they frequently fought over it.

    • Replies: @sabasarge
  42. sabasarge says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    The reason the Muslims cared at all about the city was because of its’ importance to Jews and Christians…..period. One only needs to see how they neglected Jerusalem whenever it was under their control. Even today they turn their asses towards it as they pray to Mecca.
    The rest is pure myth and revisionist history.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  43. Alden says:
    @Stogumber

    I’m glad BDS is making progress in Europe Europe imports a lot of food from across the med, including Israel.

    So a European BDS will hurt Israel and help the Arab countries as Europe will import more food from the Arabs.

    Could be the European governments have struck a deal. BDS is allowed as long as massive Muslim immigration and persecution of holo fraud historians are allowed.

    Unfortunately for the US, we proles and peasant tax payers will have to make up for the money Israel loses through BDS.

    • Replies: @Karl
  44. @Erebus

    I can’t think of a politically safer, or more effective way to formulate and convey those messages.

    I am still clinging to the hope that this is grandmaster 3D chess on the part of Trump that does Israel no good, as you say. The alternative perspective is far too depressing to contemplate. I am going to give it till the midterms to see how it all plays out, although I have no idea what to do if it doesn’t play out that way.

    • Replies: @Art
  45. Alden says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    The issue is where in Israel the American embassy should be.

    The Jerusalem as capitol of Israel issue doesn’t really matter. What matters is that a tiny little freckle on the face of the earth rules the biggest military power, the US.

    Does anyone know if China, India and the big S American countries import a lot of Israeli products?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @Singh
  46. Moi says:

    Still looking to find a good article that explains why this Nikki Haley person, of Sikh parentage but a convert to Christianity) hates Muslims with such passion…

    • Replies: @Alden
  47. Alden says:
    @Moi

    Sikhs and Muslims were enemies for centuries in India. But the real reason is that at some point she was recruited to be an Israeli spokes critter. She was then brought along in politics and given the UN ambassador job to replace the rabidly pro Israel John Bolton

    She hates Muslims because her Israeli / AIPAC owners told her too. AIPAC has recruiters on every college campus, especially law schools.

    Maybe the 2024 presidential election will feature Kamela Harris vs Nikki Haley.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  48. Alden says:
    @sabasarge

    The crusades began because upon conquering Jerusalem from the Arab Muslims, the Seljuk Turk Muslims forbade Christian pilgrimages to Jerusalem and the rest of the Holy Land. The Seljuks also cracked down on native Christians.

    The Seljuk Muslims must have thought Jerusalem extremely important to get rid of the very lucrative tourist/ pilgrimage trade. The Arab Muslims had happily accepted bribes from the Vatican and Constanipole to allow the pilgrimage trade.

    But the Seljuks were willing to give up all that money to keep the infidel out Of their holy city

  49. @sabasarge

    The rest is pure myth and revisionist history.

    What’s your beef with revisionist history?

    Some of it may be OK, some not so much, but you failed to make any distinction. Keep that in mind as you attempt to formulate a reasonable answer if (in the very unlikely chance) you have the guts to attempt it.

    Your comment seems to link revisionist history with mythology as if to discredit both. Did I get that wrong? If not, please explain.

    And next time attempt to back up your claims with reasonable facts.

    • Replies: @Wally
  50. @sabasarge

    You assert that the example I gave on contradictions in the Quran, the example given in a book on Islam, does not exist ?
    Cannot now check where this example was given, but it is clear in my memory.
    There are other contradictions, such as that jews and christians can be killed, or something like that, in one place, and that they will go to the Muslim heaven if they live well, that is, according to Quran rules, in another place.
    This is in, I suppose
    Reuben Levy, ‘The social structure of Islam’, London, New York, 1931, 1932, 1957, 1971
    The special place of Jerusalem for Muslims is that an angel brought Mohammed there, something like that.
    And indeed, when the crusaders put the whole population of Jerusalem to the sword, the city had four quarters, a christian, a Muslim, a jewish, forgot who were in the fourth.

    • Replies: @Alden
  51. @Alden

    Sikhs were, maybe are, a leading group in India.
    The British had great trouble defeating a Sikh army, they did this thoroughly, a literal blood bath, as retreating Sikhs over a collapsed bridge over a river were mass killed by shrapnel cannon.
    Ian Hernon, ‘Britain’s Forgotten Wars, Colonial Campaigns of the 19th Century’, 2003, 2007, Chalford – Stroud
    When I visited India in 1976 or so it was obvious that Sikhs had a high esteem of themselves.
    As far as I remember all of them we spoke to spoke english.

  52. @Alden

    You are quite funny.
    I used to live in Montreal.
    There were Israeli product there.
    Actually Israeli products could not fill the demand.
    What do you think how many Israeli products are there?

  53. @sabasarge

    Holy shit!!!!!!
    Mecca and Medina are two different cities.
    This is what happened!
    Jews were chased out from Palestine and and also from other places.
    Muslims did allow Jews to settle in Medina.
    Than there was another stream of Jews who did try to conquer Medina.
    Muslims asked settled Jews to help fight the conqueror Jews.
    The settled Jews refused.
    Muslims defeated the conquering Jews, and than turned around and slaughtered the settled Jews also.
    It took Muslims a long time because Jewish houses were built like fortifications.

  54. What difference, at this point of time, does it make?

  55. Allan says:
    @sabasarge

    You claim that

    the Koran very explicitly mentions the Jewish Temple on the Mount

    but earlier you wrote that

    Jerusalem has never meant sh*t to Muslims, until of course Israel gained complete control.

    It’s evident that you are splitting some hairs as if the Mount were in some place other than Jerusalem. I would concede, however, that Muslims are prolific occupiers.

    Now, we ought to expect them to be bullying and domineering given the populist orientation of Muhammadism, but the urge to conquer and dominate the world was not Muhammad’s own contribution to Abrahamic theism. Rather, it was present even before one of the Chosen People was cast in the role of The Chooser, too.

    Isaiah 66:23-24 provides us with a nice example of the despotism agenda long present in Judaism and incorporated into Arabized Judaism. Even the Trinitarians’ translation can’t hide the brutality envisioned to secure global Jewish domination. So, do you see? Muhammad and his cronies developed a tactical implementation for a strategic vision that is the Jews’ own.

    I mentioned that Islam is Arabized Judaism. More precisely, it is Judaism dumbed down in an Arabic format for export to the whole world. Islam is Judaism, somewhat garbled, with a special place reserved for an Arab prophet descended from Ishmael. Furthermore, Islam, like its elder cousin Arian Christianity, expects us to believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the messiah promised by the Jews to theirselves. So, it’s not much of a stretch to claim that this Arabized Judaism, a menace almost as great as materialist communism, is a sect of Christianity, too.

    And every informed person knows who deserves most of the blame for Christianity. (Hint: Not the Roman empire’s Greeks whom Jews attempted to exterminate during the Jewish tumult of 115-117.) After all, had there been no Judaism, there would be no cult of Jesus.

  56. @sabasarge

    I came to this site from Brietbart to get away from you zio loonies , the author hits the nail on the head , and in typical Zionist fashion real Christians seem to mean nothing to you

  57. wayfarer says:

    Notice how this plastic POS puppet politician, throws “the American people” under the bus, as she struggles to read/deliver her canned Rothschild Zionist Israel first speech.

    Begins at about 3:00 minutes into the brown-nose’s presentation.

    “The arguments about the president’s decision to move the American embassy to Jerusalem, have already been made. They are by now well known. The decision was in accordance to U.S. law dating back to 1995, and its position has been repeatedly endorsed by the American people, ever since.”

    Screw the silver-spoon fed trust-fund nation, Rothschild Zionist Israel.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  58. Art says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    C&D,

    With Trump, what you see is what you get – what we now see is an administration filthy with Jews. He had every intent to give Jerusalem to Netanyahu and Javanka – there was no deal making – there was no quid pro quo.

    I think that Israel will in the long run be a big loser. It is going to waste time doing victory dances. It has only a year to take out Hezbollah and Syria. After that those countries will be defensively to strong. Israel’s dreams of ME hegemony will turn to worries about defense.

    On the American side – it will be clear to everyone that we are losing friends around the world over this.

    In a year, America will see a small but real and open criticism of Israel.

    The Jews will have to show their hand – the problem is that they have a very weak intellectual hand – look at the Jews on our site – they have no real argument – they are reduced to non-sense attacks that are laughed at.

    The American people have not begun to fight.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Alden
    , @sabasarge
  59. With Trump, what you see is what you get – what we now see is an administration filthy with Jews. He had every intent to give Jerusalem to Netanyahu and Javanka – there was no deal making – there was no quid pro quo.

    Perhaps foolishly, I still hold out hope – not because I am a Trump fanboy (I most certainly am not), but because everything he is doing defies logic. It may well be that he is being blackmailed to the extent that he has no choice, but I have always thought that he would be motivated by narcissism. He has a great need for attention and to be well thought of. Everything he has done over the last year has lost him supporters and will doom his chances of being re-elected by popular support. Election subterfuges remain a possibility as the votes are counted by the deep state.

    So, he is either being blackmailed to shoot all his toes off, or he is a brilliant mastermind who has gotten to where he is because he is not an idiot, and he is playing some advanced Machiavellian game that is full of feints and distractions from what is going on under the covers. The former may well be the case, in which case, there is no more to hope for. I am hoping for the latter, but it should all become clear between now and November.

    In a year, America will see a small but real and open criticism of Israel.

    Art, I really hope that you are right. It won’t be soon enough.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  60. Art says:

    The people who now hate America – hundreds of millions – now have a close by target – Israel. They cannot really attack America – but they can attack Jews and Israelis.

    To the world, there is no mistake anymore – Israel and America are tied together bad guys. Trump destroyed the fiction that the US government was an honest broker when it came to Palestine and Muslims. It is now the US government and Israel against the world.

    Hate America – get the easy target, Jews and Israelis.

    Think Pease —- Art

    • Replies: @Alden
  61. geokat62 says:
    @wayfarer

    Notice how this plastic POS puppet politician, throws “the American people” under the bus, as she struggles to read/deliver her canned Rothschild Zionist Israel first speech.

    After reading that canned speech they prepared for her, Israel’s Ambassador to the UN immediately followed with his speech in which he accused those countries that voted in favour of the resolution of being… get this… PUPPETS of the Palestinians:

    “Those who support today’s resolution are like puppets pulled by the strings of the Palestinian puppet masters. You are like marionettes forced to dance while the Palestinian leadership looks on with glee.” – Danny Danon

    This coming from the mouth of an Israeli official whose PM received 29 standing ovations from the US Congress, that has been bought and paid for by The Lobby.

    Talk about chutzpah!

    • Replies: @wayfarer
    , @annamaria
  62. Wally says: • Website
    @jacques sheete

    All history is necessarily revisionist, otherwise why have new historians entering the field?

    “There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.”
    http://www.codoh.com

    - Quote below is from righteous Jew, Murray Rothbard’s Review of The Origins of the Second World War, 1966:

    [MORE]

    Now revisionism teaches us that this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth. If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler’s Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions, about the current World War III version of the same myth. Nothing would stop the current headlong flight to war faster, or more surely cause people to begin to reason about foreign affairs once again, after a long orgy of emotion and cliché.

    For the same myth is now based on the same old fallacies. And this is seen by the increasing use that the Cold Warriors have been making of the “Munich myth”: the continually repeated charge that it was the “appeasement” of the “aggressor” at Munich that “fed” his “aggression” (again, the Fu Manchu, or Wild Beast, comparison), and that caused the “aggressor,” drunk with his conquests, to launch World War II. This Munich myth has been used as one of the leading arguments against any sort of rational negotiations with the Communist nations, and the stigmatizing of even the most harmless search for agreement as “appeasement.” It is for this reason that A.J.P. Taylor’s magnificent Origins of the Second World War received probably its most distorted and frenetic review in the pages of National Review.

    The task of revisionism has been to penetrate beneath these superficialities and appearances to the stark realities underneath — realities which show, certainly in this century, the United States, Great Britain, and France — the three great “democracies” — to be worse than any other three countries in fomenting and waging aggressive war. Realization of this truth would be of incalculable importance on the current scene.

    For revisionism, in the final analysis, is based on truth and rationality. Truth and rationality are always the first victims in any war frenzy; and they are, therefore, once again an extremely rare commodity on today’s “market.” Revisionism brings to the artificial frenzy of daily events and day-to-day propaganda, the cool but in the last analysis glorious light of historical truth. Such truth is almost desperately needed in today’s world.”

  63. Wally says: • Website
    @Art

    “I think that Israel will in the long run be a big loser.”

    Then Trump did the right thing.

  64. wayfarer says:
    @geokat62

    It’s only a matter of time now before the acrid “fog of war” envelops our planet, as WW III appears to be imminent and approaching on a darkened horizon.

    Get ready, to meet your maker.

    …..
    …..

    • Replies: @Wally
  65. Alden says:
    @Art

    It took Jews 500 years to achieve their present success. It will probably take 500 years to defeat then

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Anon-og
    , @Wally
  66. Alfred says:

    I think Trump is a very smart guy – if his real aim is to put Israel out of its misery.

  67. Alden says:
    @Art

    It’s more like hate Israel, attack America and Americans.

    And in my experience, American Jews hate America as much as do the Muslims who hate us because of Israel.

    Most parasites don’t destroy their host.

    • Replies: @Art
  68. Alden says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The crusaders never put all of Jerusalem to the sword that was just enlightenment, Jewish, and anti Christian Marxist propaganda.

  69. Art says:
    @Alden

    It took Jews 500 years to achieve their present success. It will probably take 500 years to defeat then

    Israel a success?

    When 7,000,000,000 people hate them %^&&^[email protected]#$^&*^&%$#%????? (Virtually all of their neighbors.)

    The representatives of the majority of humanity (90%) voted against Israel at the UN. (America’s 300,000 were falsely represented.)

    The Rothschild central banking system is coming into world focus — not good for Jews and Israelis.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Alden
  70. Anon-og says:
    @Alden

    The Fall is always much faster than the rise.

  71. Art says:
    @Alden

    And in my experience, American Jews hate America as much as do the Muslims who hate us because of Israel.

    Most parasites don’t destroy their host.

    Gee — the Jews must be sub-parasites!

    • Agree: Alden
  72. Alden says:
    @sabasarge

    Who cares what happened a thousand years ago?

    • Replies: @Singh
  73. Singh says:
    @Alden

    India is around 40% Russian & 60% Israel in terms of total military import

  74. Singh says:
    @Alden

    Any one with any sort of identity ‘remembers’ events even of 5000 years as viscerally as if they happened yesterday।।

    Neoabsolutism claims that the transfer from the medieval to enlightenment period was a change of institution, not religion.

    Someone devoutly involved in pre enlightenment institutions will similarly have a long memory although obviously, such a man will forget his own ancestor’s genocide or anything before the year 0.

    http://mosmaiorum.org/persecution_list.html

    0 = infinity or Hari/Vishnu though.

    https://oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.ca/2014/07/triglav-trojan-trinity-trimurti-agni.html?m=1

    Slavs: Ziva Vishnji Branjanj ;)

    • Replies: @Singh
  75. sabasarge says:

    You know what….between the inherent Jew-hatred here, which like in Europe, is most likely imbibed through your mother’s teats, and the almost satirical historical ignorance shown here, I will leave you to it. One thing you all might care to keep in mind however is that there have been many great empires throughout history that have tried to destroy us.
    All of them have been scooped up and deposited in the trash bin of history, and yet here we are.
    You and your ilk are a joke. Which is it….were we the head of the snake of Communism, or was it Capitalism? You can never quite make up your minds (such as they are). And I guarantee you, if we ran the media (another of your favorites), I tend to believe we’d be getting a little better press than we get today, where anti-Zionism has simply replaced Anti-Semitism.
    Clowns

    • Replies: @Anon-og
    , @Anon-og
  76. @Seamus Padraig

    There are “white Muslims”?

    Bosnia-Herzigovina has them.

    And they moon other Europeans five times a day. No need for us to embrace them.+

  77. sabasarge says:
    @Art

    Hey Art, news flash… Trump doesn’t need to give us Jerusalem, it’s ours and always will be.
    Live with it.

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  78. Anon-og says:
    @sabasarge

    I’m sorry but something is definitely wrong with this picture.

    How could questions not arise about a historical event that needs this level of enforcement.

    It looks like the undoing of this narrative is gaining momentum with each passing moment. Spielberg better double the quota on the monthly supply of Holocaust movies being pushed on the public.

    German man sentenced to prison for making fun of Holocaust

    A 32-year-old German neo-Nazi has been sentenced to 18 months in prison for incitement after posting a picture of a miniature of the Auschwitz death camp on Facebook with an offensive caption.

    Judge Manfred Weber at the district court in Hohenstein-Ernstthal in eastern Germany told the man Thursday “you made fun of Auschwitz survivors — that’s very bad.”

    The German news agency dpa reported that the sentence of the previously convicted neo-Nazi also took into consideration his earlier charge for criminal assault and the posting of a photomontage of Adolf Hitler in combination with a swastika and firecrackers. The display of Nazi emblems is illegal in Germany.

    The man from Glauchau in Saxony, whose name was not given in line with German privacy rules, can appeal the conviction.

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/german-man-sentenced-prison-making-fun-holocaust-52138113

    • Replies: @Wally
  79. Anon-og says:
    @sabasarge

    You guys will be pushed out again for overstepping boundaries, as is the trademark of the traveling yahudi circus that can never manage a homeland long enough to lay down roots. Human ping pong balls who have been bounced around Europe for centuries and let you tell it, for no apparent reason. Well, a few decades in Palestine makes it clear why your God thought a homeland for you was a terrible idea.

  80. Anon-og says:
    @sabasarge

    “One thing you all might care to keep in mind however is that there have been many great empires throughout history that have tried to destroy us.
    All of them have been scooped up and deposited in the trash bin of history, and yet here we are.”

    You should also keep in my mind, that no one would trade places with a people who couldn’t get their act together enough to have a nation until a few decades ago. And that nation was gained in the most pathetic of ways, litigating land rights by begging world powers to give it to you. And then crying victim to the world so you can keep the place all while victimizing others in the same way you claimed to be victimized. It’s a pathetic existence and each one of you(except for an honorable few) exemplifies this pathetic existence. Speaking of mothers teating, trading the American tit for a Russian one is your best bet for survival once Uncle Sam is no longer a hegemon, you guys are not gonna be able to go it alone, courage, honor and intergrity are not Talmudic virtues.

    Empires have risen and fallen, but those nations still exist so what’s your point?
    The difference is that they can claim to having once been great where you can not. This is the best it’s been for you guys, and you couldn’t even do it yourselves.

    • Replies: @Anon-og
  81. Wally says:
    @Alden

    Jews simply defeat themselves.
    Their success is being tossed out of every country that they were graciously admitted into.
    And I guess the fact that Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869 and have temporarily sold the impossible ‘holocaust’ is seen as a success.
    http://balder.org/judea/New-York-Times-Six-Million-Jews-Since-1869.php

    http://www.codoh.com

  82. denk says:

    What the hell is all these fuss with Nikki ?

    All the 45 potus , their secretary of offence,
    secretary of state and all their underlings spoke with forked tongue. !

    It might as well be written in the job requirement,
    forchrissake !

  83. Wally says: • Website
    @Anon-og

    Welcome aboard. It’s obvious, the fake ’6M Jews’ simply doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, hence we see suppression of free speech.

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted.
    That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship.
    What sort of truth is it that denies free speech and the freedom to seek the truth?
    Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.
    Only liars demand censorship.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    • Agree: Anon-og
  84. Anon-og says:
    @Anon-og

    Empires have risen and fallen, but those nations still exist so what’s your point?

    The peoples/ethnicities/nations associated with those nations still exist even if no longer empires.

    Meanwhile what history shows is that within these nations, you were conspiring. Well congrats, you finally made it. You have a shitty little piece of land in the Middle East that comes at a huge cost that continues to mount and will eventually totally isolate you outside of Israel. I hope it was worth it.

    And how many great nations have, as their aim, attempted to destroy you, mr eternal victim?
    Germany would be an example of a great nation who simultaneously fought multiple great nations in WW1 & 2, you did none of the fighting and didn’t do much fighting back either before ending up in camps where most likely, you were not gassed.

    At best, you managed to have a great power fight on behalf of you, as was also done in Iraq when America invaded, and I guess, if you’re shameless enough, that’s something you could brag about

  85. Singh says:
    @Singh

    Sorry, meant to say about 40/60% of total Russian & Israeli military exports are to India।।

    Single largest customer for both,

  86. Alden says:
    @Art

    I didn’t mean Israel as much as I did American European S American and Russian Jews.

  87. wayfarer says:
    @Wally

    Look behind you, he stands behind you
    The Reaper shall return
    Look beside you, he walks beside you
    The Reaper has returned

    – Grave Digger, “The Reaper”

    One may consider finding himself a good dog, unlike a person a dog will stand by you, until the bitter end.

  88. sabasarge says:

    The responses here are all the proof anyone needs to verify what is blatantly obvious to anybody with a brain……once again the Jew-haters of the world are on the wrong side of history. Can every single falsehood blathered about here be proven to be just that, lies? In a heartbeat. Is it worth another moment of my life wasted “talking” to the likes found here? Hardly.
    What a bunch of sad losers.
    עם ישראל חי

    • Replies: @Anon-og
    , @Art
    , @annamaria
  89. Anon-og says:
    @sabasarge

    Don’t cry because you have been “out-jewed”, you act like you have been making civil comments, you’re not a victim.

  90. Art says:
    @sabasarge

    The responses here are all the proof anyone needs to verify what is blatantly obvious to anybody with a brain……once again the Jew-haters of the world are on the wrong side of history.

    7,000,000,000 voted against Israel last week – they ARE history.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  91. @Art

    I do definitely agree with you.
    History is on wrong side of history.

  92. annamaria says:
    @geokat62

    Israel and Israel-firsters have put themselves on a motorized pedestal going smoothly up and up. The laws of humanity will inevitably bring the supremacists fast down, to ruin. The “chosen” have already succeeded in making people smile ironically about the “most moral” and “most victimized.”

  93. annamaria says:
    @sabasarge

    A sample of a cherished Jewish story for Jewish children growing up in various host countries:
    “A brief synopsis of the story behind Purim:
    As a young child Esther was orphaned and adopted [or married, according to an opinion in the Talmud] by Mordecai. When she came of age he sold her into the King’s Harem. Eventually the King became so enamoured with Esther that he made her his Queen. The arrogant Mordecai refused to obey his superiors. Due to Esther’s influence over the King, Mordecai was given permission to slaughter his enemies, every man woman and child. Not only were the people responsible for plotting to kill the Jews murdered, but also whole families, the innocent, who had been caught up in this political disaster. The celebration of Purim is the celebration of the holocaust that took place when the Jews in Persia, during the Babylonian exile, laid waste to almost 100,000 people thanks to an edict granted to them by King Ahasuerus and made possible due to Esther’s position in the King’s palace.”
    Very educational.

  94. sabasarge says:

    LOL……you guys and your made up histories are hysterical, truly. Reminds me of how the so-called palestinians are descendants of the Canaanites. You and they just make it up to suit your narrative. There is no more truth in the world anymore.
    What a joke you all are.
    Meanwhile we thrive.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  95. The UN has sucked the US dry for many years. Tin horn losers who don’t pay but do blow hard. Thanks for TRUMP and NIKKI for ending this travesty. And yes, lets quit subsidizing the fake UN. It is well past any influence it might have once had.

  96. annamaria says:
    @sabasarge

    “What a joke you all are. Meanwhile we thrive.”
    — “As many as 90 percent of Palestinians in some areas have close genetic ties to Jews, according to researchers. Ariella Oppenheim Ph.D., a researcher at Hebrew University and the Hadassah Medical School labs, has published the result of DNA studies which show that both the Palestinians and Jews are descended from the Kurds of Iraq and Turkey.” http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/news/2011/09/jews-palestinians-have-close-genetic-ties-say-researchers.php#zSY7KWXmlEqJi1Et.99
    “Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East share a very similar gene pool and must be considered closely related and not genetically separate.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/nov/25/medicalscience.genetics
    – Why don’t you, sabasarge, go to your Arab roots and leave western civilization alone? Enjoy your Jewish achievements (if you could find any that are not based on the achievements of the ancient Persian & Greek civilizations and on the modern European civilization). You want to separate yourself from European civilization? — Good luck. Don’t expect any regrets from “us.”

  97. Erebus says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    … everything he is doing defies logic… he is a brilliant mastermind… playing some advanced Machiavellian game that is full of feints and distractions from what is going on under the covers

    Much of what he does indeed appear to defy logic, and I’m not sure about all that “mastermind” stuff, but what’s clear is that Trump is a complete anomaly. An outlier in a series of more or less ordinary Occupants in Chief and as such, he begs an explanation. I may be wildly off the mark, but I don’t believe he’s an accidental president.

    Comes the moment, comes the man.

    At this critical moment in its Imperial trajectory, America has come to be led by the Court Fool instead the more usual Platitude Issuer in Chief. There’s plenty of Americans and allied satraps who take his rise as an insult to their intelligence and an affront to national dignity, but (IMHO) they’re missing the point, and the moment.

    These are extraordinary times, and about to get extraordinary-ier. Like a rock-climber who planned his route poorly, the Empire, and America find themselves on a ledge from which there is no way upward, but from which the way down is terrifyingly perilous. How to get America down off that ledge is not only America’s problem, it’s a global problem. Tethered as it is to every international institution, it would take the whole world with it should it fall uncontrollably. The undeniable fact is that if it’s gonna come down off that ledge in something resembling a controlled manner, the whole world has to help.

    Watching the first debate back in July(?) 2015, it dawned on me that Trump was the Court Fool, and with that epiphany America’s climb down strategy became apparent. In the current political reality, his was the only persona that could break the chain of Occupants and plausibly front the kind of constitutional “counter-coup” required to remove the faction that consolidated their power in Washington a decade and a half ago and brought America to that ledge.

    The Fool doesn’t need to play “5D Chess”, he just needs to play the Fool. Speak truth or preposterous absurdities to power as required, but above all to speak and act obliquely towards well set goals so as to give cover to the real work getting done behind his Fool-ish spectacle. If he’s allowed to continue to expose the absurdities and rot underlying its Imperial program, America may just make it off that ledge and recover to fight another day.

    My convictions wavered in the first few months of 2017, but have again firmed. 2018 is going to make the Swamp increasingly uncomfortable, and it will see America begin obviously withdrawing from its more ambitious overseas commitments. The USM’s Syrian initiative will peter out, DPRK & ROK will begin to form an understanding, so will Iran and Saudi Arabia. Afghanistan may take a little longer, but in response to the Fool’s New Year’s tweet, Pakistan ordered 1.5M Afghans home, so the USM may find itself in an uncomfortable enough spot in the coming months to “reconsider its mission”. It also announced that it would begin using Yuan in trade with China.

    Likewise, its tethers to the rest of the world via treaties and agreements are being loosened. The TTP and the Paris Agreement, were the first to be cut, while NAFTA and even NATO and the UN (“caused” by the Jerusalem vote) are going to see significant loosening of the US’ entanglements. The tightest of those entanglements are in the financial sector, and their loosening will, I believe be driven by geo-political developments. MBS’ “purge” in Saudi Arabia was, I believe, an opening salvo on a front that will see SA trading oil for Yuan by the end of the year.

    These developments and countless others will be obscured by a hail of Fool-ish bombast, incoherent proclamations and logic-defying acts, and the Fool’s shitshow will continue until the America gets to a safer, much lower ledge. The people will say “Whew! we survived Trump” as if it all happened in spite of him.

    Of course, I could be wildly off the mark in my thinking. It’s early days, America’s still on that ledge and there’s powerful people and groups pushing hard for America to keep climbing whatever the risks. They may yet win the day.

    He may even prove to be an accidental president after all, but I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Cloak And Dagger
  98. @Erebus

    Interesting perspective. It will be interesting to see in the months ahead how this all plays out. If the swamp gets drained, I have no qualms about how we get there, so by all means, bring on the clowns, there have to be clowns.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  99. Why do you blame Trump and Netinyahu alone? A resolution demanding Jerusalem be be declared the capital of Israel was ratified by the congress for more than the past two decades.That was Trump could even dream of becoming president.The fact is that American politics has been corrupted by the Jewish lobby. The tragedy is that American law makers are the cheapest commodities to be purchased. Even in India, my country,even a low level politician can not be purchased so cheap as a US senetor.

    Let us face reality.America is finished. Over .American story is past. Thank the jewish stranglehold for it.

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  100. @Seamus Padraig

    I couldn’t have said it better. There’s a big difference between the wankers that run the country and the country itself. True nationalism means holding dear the second and rejecting the first. Many of those critical of the Alt Right probably haven’t been on their websites. I have , been perusing them for about two years or so. So if one is familiar with the Alt Right, one knows it is not monolithic in its philosophy. There are many different strands, but enough commonalities that bind them together. Many Alt Righters waded around in the Libertarian swimming pool for a good bit of their political lives. My big question is how authoritarian does the Alt Right see itself if it gains any power in the future?

  101. Karl says:
    @Alden

    43 Alden > Europe will import more food from the Arabs

    hold that telephone line, please; I want to tell the Governor of Kansas that he needs to worry about competition from “Ag Powerhouse” Egypt

  102. Erebus says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    It will be interesting to see in the months ahead how this all plays out.

    It’s gonna take a lot longer than a few months.

    Ultimately, the swamp can’t get drained any faster than Congress can be replaced, and that means the American public has to step up and get political. As it is, I’m not sure even Trumpists have reached a sufficiently high level of aversion to the swamp’s breadth, depth or toxicity to do more than vote. A few pockets may get drained here and there these midterms, but unless something very dramatic happens between now and then, Trump’s just got keep chipping away at the denizens’ credibility and exposing the rot until some magic tipping point is reached and the public says “We’ve seen enough!”.

    Even then, they have to make the quantum leap to abandoning the Red Team – Blue Team mindset that incubated the moulds and muck.
    Unless I read ‘em wrong, it’ll take a term or more of Trump to get to that point.

  103. TT says:
    @Dr.Joji Cherian

    Spot on. Congress has approved decades ago, and every US Prez make that same election promise.

    Trump already explained clearly, he is merely keeping his election promise, which all past US Prez had never keep. So why people are now blaming him for carrying out what US people elected him for?

    The whole world of hypocrite leaders voted against this Jerusalem thing in UN is nothing but a stupid stunt show, while all openly cordon genocide in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Libya,… support unjustifiable sanction against NK, Cuba, Venezuela, Iraq, Iran, Russia,…are certainly more disgusted.

    In fact, I have repeated elsewhere, Trumps by far is probably the most honest, courageous & integrity Potus in entire US history. At least he speak his mind(put aside stupidity), try his utter best to keep all his election promises(rt/wrong are what you people wanted) and fight courageously alone with his only little tool – Twitter – against the siege & onslaught of MSM, whole world hypocrite leaders, entire states organs, both parties, congress, CIA, FBI, and those foolish people blaming him for doing what you people elected him for.

    Most will give up under such incredible conditions, but Trumps fight on to expose & drain the swamp(intentionally or unintentionally doesn’t matter). That alone make him worth a Potus, a man that fight against all odds for what he believe (rt/wrong aside).

    Remember its you US people that elected Potus & all politicians into office to rule US, not other nations, so you are solely responsible for all their actions. Osama BL had correctly pointed this out, so don’t blame others but yourself when you get the “returns”.

    Look at what all past hypocrite Potus ever did, only empty promises, shameless lying, corruption, destroying others countries, violent sowing everywhere, wars, more wars, massacring tens of millions innocents in humanity excuse. If Trumps only play bluffs but never initiate any wars in his term, he will simply be the greatest Potus in entire US history.

    US needs tons of shock to wake up from its deep brainwashed state, then it can unite to destroy their own monstrous government, build everything new based on true equality, humanity & benevolent kindness with entire world. Then America can be truly great again.

    Hope China & Russia can move fast enough to collapse US hegemonic empire, so we don’t need a nuclear war to wake these zombies up.

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  104. KA says:
    @TT

    ( Congress has approved decades ago, and every US Prez make that same election promise.

    Trump .. is merely keeping his election promise, which all past US Prez had never keep. ..r?

    The whole world of hypocrite leaders voted against this Jerusalem thing in UN is nothing but a stupid stunt show, …)

    Hypocrisy of the American gov is and unsettling . Why will and country should trust America? American divined the Oslo agreement ,spent enormous times and money . Oslo brought Israel much needed rescue from political and economic isolation from Asia Arab and S American and African counmtries . Israel got what it wanted and went to undo the Oslo in the name of X Y Z or some other obscure alphabets from another cookbook . Jerusalem was promised to Palestine . America signed the agreement and blessed it. Immediately Republican went to undermine the peace process with the blessings of Neocons ad Netanyahu who promised to destroy it.

    Rest of the world is at least on this occasion is behaving like adult with sense of moral and legal responsibilities .

    The behaviors of the Congress +the neocons could be seen the way thethe behaviors of the terrorists would be, in other countries who force their governments to delay,scuttle,torpedo,and destroy internationally recognized historical facts ( UN has always maintained Jerusalem is occupied territory ),documents,and negotiations. The terrorists do it with gun. US’s goons do it with bribes and media.

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