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Never in the history of the United States, has a President and Supreme Court Judge openly advocated the overthrow of a Presidential candidate. Never has the entire mass media engaged in a round-the-clock one-sided, propaganda war to discredit a Presidential candidate by systematically ignoring or distorting the central socio-economic issues of their opposition.

“Many of our interlocutors have been purged or arrested”.
James Clapper, US Director of Intelligence on Turkish Coup (Financial Times 8/3/16, p. 4)

Introduction

Washington has organized a systematic, global, no holds barred campaign to oust Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump from the electoral process. The virulent anti-Trump animus, the methods, goals and mass media resemble authoritarian regimes preparing to overthrow political adversaries.

Comparable propaganda efforts led to political coups in Chile in 1973, Brazil 1964, and Venezuela in 2002. The anti-Trump forces include both political parties, a Supreme Court judge, Wall Street bankers, journalists and editorialists of all the major media outlets and the leading military and intelligence spokespeople.

Washington’s forcible and illegal ouster of Trump is part and parcel of a world-wide campaign to overthrow leaders and regimes which raise questions about aspects of the imperial policies of the US and EU.

We will proceed to analyze the politics of the anti-Trump elite, the points of confrontation and propaganda, as a prelude to the drive to oust opposition in Latin America, Europe, the Middle East and Asia.

The Anti-Trump Coup

Never in the history of the United States, has a President and Supreme Court Judge openly advocated the overthrow of a Presidential candidate. Never has the entire mass media engaged in a round-the-clock one-sided, propaganda war to discredit a Presidential candidate by systematically ignoring or distorting the central socio-economic issues of their opposition.

The call for the ouster of a freely elected candidate is nothing more or less than a coup d’état.

Leading television networks and columnists demand that the elections be annulled, following the lead of the President and prominent Republican and Democratic Congressional and Party leaders.

In other words, the political elite openly rejects democratic electoral processes in favor of authoritarian manipulation and deception. The authoritarian elite relies on magnifying tertiary, questionable personal judgement calls to mobilize coup backers.

They systematically avoid the core economic and political issues which candidate Trump has raised – and attracted mass support – which challenge fundamental policies backed by the two Party elites.

The Roots of the Anti-Trump Coup

Trump has raised several key issues which challenge the Democratic and Republican elite.

Trump has drawn mass support and won elections and public opinion polls by:

(1) rejecting the free trade agreements which has led major multinationals to relocate abroad and disinvest in well-paying industrial jobs in the US

(2) calling for large scale public investment projects to rebuild the US industrial economy, challenging the primacy of financial capital.

(3) opposing the revival of a Cold War with Russia and China and promoting greater economic co-operation and negotiations.

(4) rejecting US support for NATO’s military build-up in Europe and intervention in Syria, North Africa and Afghanistan.

(5) questioning the importation of immigrant labor which lowers job opportunities and wages for local citizens.

The anti-Trump elite systematically avoid debating these issues; instead they distort the substance of the policies.

Instead of discussing the job benefits which will result from ending sanctions with Russia, the coupsters screech that ‘Trump supports Putin, the terrorist’.

Instead of discussing the need to redirect investment inward to create US jobs, the anti-Trump junta mouth clichés that claim his critique of globalization would ‘undermine’ the US economy.

To denigrate Trump, the Clinton/Obama junta resorts to political scandals to cover-up mass political crimes. To distract public attention, Clinton-Obama falsely claim that Trump is a ‘racist’, backed by David Duke, a racist advocate of “Islamophobia”. The anti-Trump junta promoted the US- Pakistani parents of a military war casualty as victims of Trump’s slanders even as they rooted for Hillary Clinton, promotor of wars against Muslim countries and author of military policies that sent thousands of US soldiers to their grave.

Obama and Clinton are the imperial racists who bombed Libya and Somalia and killed, wounded and displaced over 2 million sub-Saharan Black-Africans.

Obama and Clinton are the Islamaphobes who bombed and killed and evicted five million Muslims in Syria and one million Muslims in Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq.

In other words, Trump’s mistaken policy to restrict Muslim immigration is a reaction to the hatred and hostility engendered by the Obama-Clinton million-person Muslim genocide.

Trump’s “America First” policy is a rejection of overseas imperial wars – seven wars under Obama-Clinton. Their militarist policies have inflated budget deficits and degraded US living standards.

Trump’s criticism of capital and job flight has threatened Wall Street’s billion-dollar profiteering – the most important reason behind the bi-partisan junta’s effort to oust Trump and the working class’s support for Trump.

By not following the bi-partisan Wall Street, war agenda, Trump has outlined another business agenda which is incompatible with the current structure of capitalism. In other words’ the US authoritarian elite does not tolerate the democratic rules of the game even when the opposition accepts the capitalist system.

Likewise, Washington’s quest for ‘mono-power’ extends across the globe. Capitalist governments which decide to pursue independent foreign policies are targeted for coups.

Obama-Clinton’s Junta Runs Amok

Washington’s proposed coup against Trump follows similar policies directed against political leaders in Russia, Turkey, China, Venezuela, Brazil and Syria.

Russian President Putin has been demonized by the US propaganda media on an hourly basis for the better part of a decade. The US has backed oligarchs and promoted economic sanctions; financed a coup in the Ukraine; established nuclear missiles on Russia’s frontier; and launched an arms race to undermine President Putin’s economic policies in order to provoke a coup.

The US backed its proxy Gulenist ‘invisible government’ in its failed coup to oust President Erdogan, for failing to totally embrace the US Middle East agenda.

Likewise, Obama-Clinton have backed successful coups in Latin America. Coups were orchestrated in Honduras, Paraguay and more recently in Brazil to undermine independent Presidents and to secure satellite neo-liberal regimes. Washington presses forward to forcibly oust the national-populist government of President Maduro in Venezuela.

ORDER IT NOW

Washington has escalated efforts to erode, undermine and overthrow the government of China’s President Xi-Jinping through several combined strategies. A military build-up of an air and sea armada in the South China Sea and military bases in Japan, Australia and the Philippines; separatist agitation in Hong Kong, Taiwan and among the Uyghurs; a US- Latin American-Asia free trade agreements which excludes China.

Conclusion

Washington’s strategy of illegal, violent coups to retain the delusion of empire stretches across the globe, ranging from Trump in the US to Putin in Russia, from Erdogan in Turkey to Maduro in Venezuela to Xi Jinping in China.

The conflict is between US-EU imperialism backed by their local clients against endogenous regimes rooted in nationalist alliances.

The struggle is ongoing and sustained and threatens to undermine the political and social fabric of the US and the European Union.

The top priority for the US Empire is to undermine and destroy Trump by any means necessary. Trump already has raised the question of ‘rigged elections’. But each elite media attack of Trump seems to add to and strengthen his mass support and polarize the electorate.

As the elections approach, will the elite confine themselves to verbal hysteria or will they turn from verbal assassinations to the ‘other kind’?

Obama’s global coup strategy shows mixed results: they succeeded in Brazil but were defeated in Turkey; they seized power in the Ukraine but were defeated in Russia; they gained propaganda allies in Hong Kong and Taiwan but suffered severe strategic economic defeats in the region as China’s Asian trade policies advanced.

As the US elections approach, and Obama’s pursuit of his imperial legacy collapses, we can expect greater deception and manipulation and perhaps even frequent resort to elite-designed ‘terrorist’ assassinations.

(Republished from The James Petras Website by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    “Never in the history of the United States, has a President and Supreme Court Judge openly advocated the overthrow of a Presidential candidate. Never has the entire mass media engaged in a round-the-clock one-sided, propaganda war to discredit a Presidential candidate by systematically ignoring or distorting the central socio-economic issues of their opposition.”

    Ginsburg: Jewish

    Obama: Tool of Jews

    Hillary: Whore of Jews

    Media: Owned by Jews

  2. Obama and Clinton are the imperial racists who bombed Libya and Somalia and killed, wounded and displaced over 2 million sub-Saharan Black-Africans.

    Obama and Clinton are the Islamaphobes who bombed and killed and evicted five million Muslims in Syria and one million Muslims in Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq.

    All true. And yet it is Trump who is vulgar.

  3. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    Paradoxically, Jews need to suppress the CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS narrative with the Muslim World in order to clash with it and destroy it.

    If Zio-US declared war on Islam itself, it will have a galvanizing effect on all Muslims against the West. It will mess up US interventionism.

    So, the Zio-US pretends like it is a friend of Muslims in order to intervene and side with some Muslims against others, thereby messing up the region to the benefit of Israel as the only great power left.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  4. Rehmat says:
    @Priss Factor

    You seems to be very ignorant of Western history.

    The Judeo-Christian West has been at war with Islam since late 7th century. British, French and Dutch colonized almost the entire Muslim world with the exception of Turkey and Afghanistan

    Zio-US never pretended to be friend of Muslims. In fact Zionist Jew and Christians are the one who funds hatred against Muslims in the West and Africa.

    Professor Mark R. Cohen (Princeton University), an ordained rabbi from the Jewish Theological Seminary in New York. He is author of 1994 book, ‘Under Crescent and Cross: The Jews in the Middle Ages’.

    Mark penned an article, entitled ‘The new Muslim anti-Semitism‘, published by Israeli daily The Jerusalem Post on January 2, 2008. In the article, Mark debunked Zionist myth that Islam teaches hatred toward Jews and Christians. He stated that Muslim hatred toward Jews (Zionist Jews) was a recent development and not foundation of Islam.

    “Jewish-Muslim relations are at a nadir today. But the mutual hatred and anti-semitism on the Muslim side are relatively new phenomena, born out of political, rather than religious factors. When the Islamic Caliphs ruled large swaths of Asia and Africa, their Jewish subjects enjoyed a protected status their brethren in Christian Europe – victims of antisemitism – never thought possible. Islam and Judaism have much more in common than Judaism has with Christianity,” wrote Cohen.

    Cohen’s article was later republished by the Jewish-Zionist propaganda organs like The Jewish Daily Forward, The Washington Post, The Huffington Post, and others, during the Israel lobby campaign against the proposed new Islamic Center a few blocks away from the so-called “Ground Zero”.

    While receiving the Goldziher Prize at a ceremony in October 2010, Cohen spoke of his hope that Jews and Muslims put aside their difference. “In the dust of conflict between Islam and the West today, Jews and Muslims have lost sight of the similarity between their two faiths. If Jews and Muslims better understood the common ground they share, that knowledge would stem the tide of mutual fear that is today spreading across the globe,” he said.

    https://rehmat1.com/2013/05/29/jewish-professor-zionism-behind-muslims-jewish-hatred/

  5. Jason Liu says:

    May the nationalists of the world rise to defeat western ideologies. What would be better is if nationalists within the west would disavow 17th century Enlightenment values, but that’s wishful thinking.

  6. I am amused that many are outraged that Trump insulted a few Muslims. Yet they do not protest that Obama has continued to run a Muslim torture camp in Cuba for almost eight years, something he once said was unacceptable and closing Gitmo would be his first act as President. Unfortunately, Trump has not exploited this lie, and chose to support this illegal activity.

    Meanwhile, everyone is stunned that Trump fails to praise Muslims, while Obama just launched another bombing campaign that killed dozens of Muslims in Libya, to add to the list of thousands his orders have killed in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and Libya.

    And from my blog, which includes links:

    Aug 8, 2016 – Putin and Crimea

    [MORE]

    CNN’s Fareed Zakaria is a corporate spokesman and probable covert CIA asset who spews propaganda, to include vile comments about the biggest threat to his criminal organizations — Donald Trump. Zakaria recently hosted a discussion forum in Europe where he tried to paint Russian leader Vladimir Putin as a Trump ally. Putin smoothly proved Zakaria a liar and explained that Europeans are tired of American warmongering and now suffer from senseless American imposed sanction games with Russia. If you watch the video of Putin schooling Zakaria, you will admire him.

    Americans will never see that video on their CIA-edited corporate news programs. Instead, we get steady propaganda, like criticism of Russia’s “invasion” of Crimea, and Obama administration warmongers wanting ever more money for our military by creating a new Cold War, minus the communism justification. Allow me to provide the proper background to these events. 

    The Ukrainian conflict is the result of NATO’s irrational expansion despite a post-Cold War agreement with Russia. Ukraine was targeted for absorption and NATO began sending American and NATO combat troops to Ukraine for annual military exercises. Why? The effort stalled, so Hillary Clinton’s State Department funneled some $5 billion to orchestrate a “revolution” to overthrow the elected President of Ukraine in 2014. (see my June 7th blog post for hard facts) Ukraine’s elected President was ousted because he (and most members of parliament) refused to support Ukraine joining the EU and NATO, and violence spread throughout Ukraine as CIA funded factions fought for power. 

    Russia feared losing control of Crimea, a strategic republic (i.e. province) that was part of Russia for over a century, but had been administratively attached to Ukraine in the 1950s as a gesture of Soviet solidarity. Russians are the majority people in Crimea and Russian is the common language. After the President of Ukraine was ousted by armed thugs and Kiev fell into chaos, a referendum was held in Crimea in 2014 with international observers and citizens overwhelming voted to rejoin Russia. Russian troops didn’t invade Crimea because some 20,000 Russia troops were based there as they had been for a century. Even most non-Russians in Crimea voted to rejoin Russia because Ukraine is one of the most corrupt and poorest nations in Europe, while Russia has vast natural resources and is far more advanced.

    This is why knowledgeable people like Donald Trump state they are not bothered by Russia accepting the request by the people of Crimea to rejoin Russia. Now watch this PBS News Hour propaganda segment providing “facts” as to why Trump is wrong, saying only that Ukraine’s pro-Russian leader was ousted so Russia invaded Crimea, without mentioning any historical facts. The segment actually lies by saying Crimea voted to join Ukraine in 1991. That is false, it voted to become an independent republic from the dissolving USSR that would remain associated with Ukraine. After years of corruption, domestic turmoil, and an American coup in Kiev, the citizens of Crimea chose to be associated with Russia instead. The Russian reannexation of Crimea was desired by the vast majority of it’s citizens and no sane person should object, unless they are limited to censored information in the American media.

  7. This is a very impressive and hard-hitting essay. And it’s about time! The ongoing media-corporate-oligarch assault on Trump is unprecedented in scale. The top-down attacks on Trump are unceasing, unfair and unbalanced. Journalistic ‘objectivity’ has been tossed aside. It’s war.

    That Trump remains as popular as he is is testament to fact that political influence by elite opinion-makers and other powerful institutions is in decline. This is a very healthy sign.

    I’m particularly gratified to see an informed, left-of-center professor (James Petras) come to the defense of candidate Trump. I happen to know James Petras and he’s certainly not your typical Trump voter.

    But Petras is clearly outraged by the stupefying bias and dishonesty that’s now at play in the vast, pro-Hillary conspiracy that seeks to negate popular will and install an establishment candidate. This article deserves to be circulated widely.

  8. Renoman says:

    I’d love to see Trump win, it’s a shame he’s such a verbal idiot.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  9. Rehmat says:

    The latest CIA-Mossad military coup failed due to public support for the ruling AKP party but that doesn’t mean the pro-Israel thugs will give up on an anti-Iran regime in Ankara. They succeeded four times since Crypto-Jew Gen. Mustapha Attaturk abolished Ottoman empire in the 1920s.

    With the White House and Congress controlled by the Jewish Lobby – Middle East would never see peace.

    Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh (Jewish) warned in 2007 of the US-Israel-Saudi plan to use their own Islamist creations, such as, Al-Qaeda and other ISIS/ISIL Wahhabi/Salaafi proxy terrorist groups to overthrow pro-Iran Syrian government. In December 2013, Hersh wrote another article, entitled, Whose sarin?, proving Barack Obama lied from both ends of his Israel-First body in order to implicate Syrian army in the sarin attack. Most of Obama’s lies were based on ‘intelligence reports’ from Israeli Mossad and Robert Ford, the ex-US ambassador in Damascus….

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/05/09/saudi-turkey-alliance-against-axis-of-resistance/

  10. Boris says:

    Washington’s forcible and illegal ouster of Trump

    What the hell are you talking about? No one is ousting Trump.

    Leading television networks and columnists demand that the elections be annulled

    No.

    To distract public attention, Clinton-Obama falsely claim that Trump is a ‘racist’, backed by David Duke, a racist advocate of “Islamophobia”

    These claims gain traction because there is a lot of evidence that they are true.

    Likewise, Obama-Clinton have backed successful coups in Latin America.

    More delusion.

    As the elections approach, will the elite confine themselves to verbal hysteria or will they turn from verbal assassinations to the ‘other kind’?

    lol. Trump is going to lose big time.

  11. Durruti says:

    As the Worm turns

    James Petras writes a pro-Casino Trump & pro Zionist owned Russian 5th Column Oligarch traitor, Putin, article, in which he discusses -in passing- certain coup d’etats.

    Petras’ subtitle asks, “Can Coups Defeat Elected Governments?” He mentions some past coups conducted by the American Imperialist Oligarchs, “Comparable propaganda efforts led to political coups in Chile in 1973, Brazil 1964, and Venezuela in 2002.”

    Petras rolls on to his major point, that of whoring for the Zionist American Electoral Circus of 2016, by supporting one of the Professional Wrestlers, Casino Trump. His headline within the article, ” The Roots of the Anti-Trump Coup,” names another coup, one which has yet to happen. To rework a Regis Debrayism Petras is treating us Rubes to a ‘Coup within a Coup.” You see…………….

    The key Coup in American History occurred in Dallas, on November 22, 1963.

    In that coup our Last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy, and his/our democratically elected government, in tandem with our Constitution, were ASSASSINATED.
    The first of the modern ‘Arab Springs,‘ sprung by the joint efforts of the Zionist Oligarchs, their MOSSAD, and their junior (controlled), American CIA, was the anti-human shock that reworked the political culture of our planet.

    The death totals from subsequent unconstitutional imperialist wars and overthrows of other people’s governments, (the short-list below),–
    Vietnam-2 million,
    Indonesia 1965-1 million
    Guatemala 1960s-100,000+
    Argentina, Chile, Nicaragua, Greece, Iran, Congo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Yugoslavia, and Ukraine… You finish the list!

    –has passed 6 million. Here is the True Holocaust! We at UNZ must not deny the True Holocaust. And this one is still growing.

    The True Horror, the Key – most important Coup, that led to all the Modern Coups, must never be mentioned. Even the good commenters at UNZ fear to say the words. They fear to see what stands before them, – in plain sight.

    The human difference between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, is that Ms. Clinton is a psychotic Zionist War Criminal, who has actively helped organize the butchery of millions of innocent civilians, and has betrayed America’s citizens, a hundred times over, and Mr. Trump has not yet had the opportunity to descend to those depths.

    There is a solution to our sadness, a ready medicine for our many moral aches and pains:

    We must Restore Our beloved Democratic Republic! With all the wonderful bells and whistles, (unbought elections, economic opportunity for all, and end to surveillance of our people, bring all our soldiers home (Ron Paul’s favorite demand), and the enjoyment of all those heady freedoms in our Bill of Rights.

    That is our Yellow Brick Road, and Moral Imperative. Is it too much to ask that we discuss this on this very forum?

    Durruti, for The Anarchist Collective

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  12. Art says:

    A coup – American style:

    July 7 – an old comment.

    Comey: Hillary’s FBI Testimony Wasn’t Under Oath or Recorded, But It Would Still Be a Crime to Lie

    During testimony before Congress on Thursday, FBI Director James Comey stated that the FBI’s interview with presumptive Democratic presidential nominee former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was not under oath or recorded, but it still would be a crime to lie to the FBI.

    Comey stated that he did not personally interview Clinton, and did not talk to all of the “five or six” who did interview Clinton.

    He was then asked, “did she testify or talk to them under oath?” Comey answered, “No.” But added that “it’s still a crime to lie to us.”

    When asked if there was a transcript of the interview, Comey stated that there wasn’t one because the interview wasn’t recorded, but there was an analysis of Clinton’s interview.

    http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=195066

    The coup in action

    Friday – Bill helps Loretta see how his and her grandchildren can be pals.

    Saturday – FBI does non- serious interview – no oath, unrecorded – Comey skips the interview.

    Sunday – Jew media calls Trump anti-Semite.

    Tuesday AM – Comey – Hillary NOT guilty.

    Tuesday PM – Obama Hillary – do campaigning for the brainstemers – Jew media ecstatic – election over.

    The government overthrow of the election works.

    Who has the gonads to say this was not choreographed – Bill Clinton – Department of Justice – FBI – Obama – Jew MSM – did a coup.

    That weekend there was a mainstream elitist coup. There was a takeover put over on the American people. Bill Clinton, Lynch, Comey, Hillary, Obama, and the Jew MSM conspired to overthrow the 2016 election. They cleaned Hillary skirts of past misdeeds. Going forward, no smoking gun will be allowed by the administration or the media, to get in her way.

    Sorry – the election is over.

    p.s. The only stop to Hillary is her health.

    • Replies: @Art
  13. @Boris

    Stop posting here, troll. Go choke on Hillary’s cock, douchebag.

    • Replies: @No Second Israel
    , @Boris
  14. @Richard Steele

    Good response. Kill the criminal pussy, racist, sexist who has killed millions of Muslims, including baby and women and millions more as refugees by voting for trump. She should be destroyed now.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  15. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @No Second Israel

    Good response. Kill the criminal pussy, racist, sexist who has killed millions of Muslims, including baby and women and millions more as refugees by voting for trump. She should be destroyed now.

    Very eloquently stated , Sir. But are you aware that Trump has a ((( Daughter ))) , a ((( Daughter in law ))) and a gaggle of ((( Grandchildren ))) ???? Me thinks you will be disappointed no matter who wins !!!!!!!

  16. Miro23 says:

    Can Coups Defeat Elected Governments?

    It’s an interesting question. The big problem for US Jewry is that Democracy threatens their power. And it’s difficult to maintain a dominant position through back door methods such as bribes/threats, patronage and media ownership, particularly in the Digital Age.

    The simple answer is to knock out Democracy with a Coup as the Bolshevik Jews did in Russia. Opponents can then be directly murdered or sent to the Gulag.

    In fact they tried it with the 9/11 Coup. Cheney took power directly after the jet strikes with his neocon associates heading out to emergency centres around the country set up under the Reagan administration + activating Homeland Security and the Patriot Act for enforcement. The big failure was the unsuccessful assasination attempt on Bush on morning of 9/11 (at Colony Beach and Tennis Resort – Florida) so Bush remained head of the armed forces, neutralizing Cheney.

    In other words, the present election was never meant to happen, and what’s worse is that the Establishment (read US Jewry) is dealing with a more aware population despite their media’s best efforts.

    If Trump gets elected they are at great risk, and all their Facade-Goys are failing (McCain, Romney, Bush, Rubio – and now even Hillary looks to be in trouble) so it’s imperative to 1) take out an insurance on Trump and surround him with neocons – and dispose of him later 2) create a National Emergency after the election with enough confusion to justify an Emergency Regime (Coup II).

    The only real question is in what form the chaos will arrive. It could be a major war or some kind of Weimar style financial collapse.

  17. What ever happened to Dr. Boyd. D. Cathey? I sure wish he would write more often.

    The Neolibs are absolutely barking mad to think that they could transform Russia or China. That would be like telling the autumn leaves not to fall.

  18. There needs to be a clarification here regarding Ukraine: Ukraine never wanted to join NATO (my hunch is that for these Eastern Slavs the NATO has always been an alien idea). All through out the 2000s, the support for joining NATO was very very low (unlike in the Baltics, where it has persistently been very high – much higher than support for the EU). This is essential. Ukraine including Western Ukraine never wanted or intended to join NATO. Ukraine wanted to join EU and have a visa free work and travel arrangement (whereas an EE country could hypothetically join only EU and not NATO, is another question). But they never wanted to join NATO until the war and annexation.

    Regarding “coups” or whatever, one can speculate about the extent of the US influence, but the truth is that Ukraine, ever since the 1990s, has looked kind of like scales – at one point a pro-Ukrainian, pro-Western government comes (Yuschenko, Timoshenko), the country swings in one way, then a pro-Russian government comes around soon after and it swings the other way. You can’t have a consistent geostrategic foundation that way. It is a dead end that way. It would always be that way regardless of “neoliberal intervention” or Russian pressure, or whatever, because they don’t agree objectively. It is an ethnic war, not civil, it is very tragic. Of course, it is more intricate because even in Eastern Ukraine, you have many different nationalities and many Russians there speak Ukrainian and want to stay within Ukraine, but those are the details, unfortunately, everyone suffers.

    • Replies: @Avery
  19. There needs to be a clarification here regarding Ukraine: Ukraine never wanted to join NATO (my hunch is that for these Eastern Slavs the NATO has always been an alien idea). All through out 2000s, the support for joining NATO was very very low (unlike in the Baltics, where it has persistently been very high – much higher than support for the EU). This is essential. Ukraine including Western Ukraine never wanted or intended to join NATO. Ukraine wanted to join EU and have a visa free work and travel arrangement (whether an EE country could hypothetically join only EU and not NATO, is another question). But they never wanted to join NATO until conflicts began on Russia’s border.

    Regarding “coups” or whatever, one can speculate about the extent of the US influence, but the truth is that Ukraine, ever since the 1990s, has looked kind of like scales – at one point a pro-Ukrainian, pro-Western government comes (Yuschenko, Timoshenko), the country swings one way, then a pro-Russian government comes around soon after and it swings the other way. You can’t have a consistent geostrategic foundation that way. It is a dead end that way. It would always be that way regardless of “neoliberal intervention” or Russian pressure, or whatever, because they don’t agree objectively. It is an ethnic war, not civil, it is very tragic. Of course, it is more intricate because even in Eastern Ukraine, you have many different nationalities and many Russians there speak Ukrainian and want to stay within Ukraine, but those are the details, unfortunately, everyone suffers.

  20. Avery says:
    @Latvian woman

    {…. and annexation.}

    What, quote, “annexation”?

  21. Hi, Avery. Nice to see you.

    My big question is – did Russia ever believe that Ukraine wanted to join NATO? Given that, as far as I know (and I might be wrong), Ukraine never expressed such a wish. And, like I said, I remember reading some opinion poll, many years ago, way before the “New Cold War” started, that said that the public support for (hypothetically) joining NATO was very low (if I’m not mistaken, it included the Western Ukraine, too, which back then almost surprised me a little). That’s the elephant in the room – Ukraine never wanted to join NATO.

  22. edNels [AKA "geoshmoe"] says:

    Petras makes a lot of sense.

    The top priority for the US Empire is to undermine and destroy Trump by any means necessary. Trump already has raised the question of ‘rigged elections’.]

    The call for the ouster of a freely elected candidate is nothing more or less than a coup d’état.]

    Never in the history of the United States, has a President and Supreme Court Judge openly advocated the overthrow of a Presidential candidate…]

    But, now armed with hindsight, I don’t see how it is so hard of a stretch of the imagination to figure, that like popular Bernie, who many were prescient enough to call it right, would end up dropping the ball on que!
    What do they used to call that, playing ”Stalking Horse”?

    INOW’s Trump is same thing from the other side. Stalking Horse from the Right. And… He don’t have to ”drop the ball” either, he can play it more like, he is being pushed out. Gives it more power of deception, won’t piss off the right styly folks as much. They tend to be hard boiled in tradition, just as dumb as the Bernie kids though.

    Bottom line, Trump is working for Bill Clinton.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  23. Durruti says:
    @edNels

    You show me yours, and I’ll show you mine.

    Did you peruse comment #11?

    Actually, Trump, Obomber, & the Clintons, are working for the same Oligarchs – Professional Wrestling Tag Team. Check out the back-up VPs (Siamese twins).

    • Agree: edNels
  24. @Boris

    Boris is a White House Communications office intern. WashPost comments sections are loaded with Boris’ type. Boris is likely a woman.

    • Replies: @Boris
  25. Boris says:
    @Richard Steele

    Are you gonna cry if I don’t? Because you seem quite emotional about the whole thing.

  26. […] to columnist James Petras writing at the Unz Review, the war on Trump is unlike anything ever seen in […]

  27. @Durruti

    “The key Coup in American History occurred in Dallas, on November 22, 1963.”

    With respect, I think the key Coup in American history occurred in 1913 with the creation of the FED. Kennedy was a threat to the Banking Cartel. I confess my point, a Coup to rescue a previous Coup may be quibbling.

    Wilson, of course, was not assassinated or even driven from office. He wittingly, willingly and illegally handed over the sovereignty of our Republic to a banking cartel. It was Wilson who gave us also the IRS and World War One.

    I can’t agree with you regarding Putin and/or Trump. But I will enthusiastically endorse your conclusion.

    “We must Restore Our beloved Democratic Republic! With all the wonderful bells and whistles, (unbought elections, economic opportunity for all, and end to surveillance of our people, bring all our soldiers home (Ron Paul’s favorite demand), and the enjoyment of all those heady freedoms in our Bill of Rights.”

    Well said!

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  28. Art says:
    @Art

    Political Assassination – the American Way

    By Finian Cunningham

    August 11, 2016 “Information Clearing House” – “Sputnik” – Donald Trump has entered a political kill zone. And the American establishment is lining up to take him out. We are talking here in virtual terms – at least thus far.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45273.htm

  29. Kyle says:
    @Boris

    Because there are too many Mexican and eastern euro immigrants

  30. Durruti says:
    @WorkingClass

    Thanks for the feedback.

    The assassination of our elected President JFK, and the assassination of his Brother, were key political moves by the Oligarchs that eliminated the only family power block that resisted the Zionist Oligarchs. Yes, the Republic, by 1963, was badly wounded by those very acts you mention.

    The shooting/murder of the Kennedys, & followed by the elimination of so many others, was more of a definitive Hollywood ending of our weakened Republic.

  31. KA says:

    Thanks for the article nd lots of good comments

  32. MarkinLA says:
    @Renoman

    It doesn’t matter what he says. It will always be painted by the media as stupid.

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