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Introduction

Over half the US electorate views the two leading candidates for the 2016 Presidential elections with horror and disdain.

In contrast, the entire corporate mass media, here and abroad, repeat outrageous virtuous claims on behalf of Hillary Clinton and visceral denunciations of Donald Trump.

Media pundits, financial, academic and corporate elites describe the prospects of her presidency as one of responsibility, national security, business prosperity and political normalcy.

In contrast, they paint billionaire Republican candidate, Donald Trump as a grave threat, likely to destroy the global economic and military order, polarize US society and destined to lead an isolated and protectionist US into deep recession.

The super-charged rhetoric, flaunting the virtues of one candidate and vices of the other, ignores the momentous consequences of the election of either candidate. There is a strong chance that the election of ultra-militarist Hillary Clinton will drive the world into catastrophic global nuclear war.

On the other hand, Trump’s ascent to the US Presidency will likely provoke unprecedented global economic opposition from the corporate establishment, which will drive the US economy into a profound depression.

These are not idle claims: The destructive consequences of either candidate’s presidency can best be understood through a systematic analysis of Mme. Clinton’s past and present foreign policies and Trump’s belief that he his the ability to transform the US from an empire to a republic.

Clinton on the Road to Nuclear War

Over the past quarter century, Hillary Clinton has promoted the most savage and destructive wars of our times. Moreover, the more directly she has been engaged in imperial policymaking, the greater her responsibility in implementing foreign policy, the closer we have come to nuclear war.

To identify Hillary Clinton’s path to global war it is necessary to identify three crucial moments. Hillary’s bloody history can be dated initially to her de facto ‘joint Presidency’ with husband Bill Clinton (1993 – 2001).

Stage One: The Conjugal Militarist Presidency (1993 – 2001)

During Hilary Clinton’s joint presidency with William Clinton (the Billary Regime) the First Lady actively promoted an aggressive militarized takeover of Eastern Europe, the Balkans, the Middle East and Eastern Africa – often under her favorite messianic doctrine of ‘humanitarian intervention and regime change’.

This justified the relentless bombing of Iraq, destroying its infrastructure and blockading its population into starvation while preparing to carve its territory into ethnic and religious divisions. Over 500,000 Iraqi children were murdered as proudly justified by then-Secretary of State Madeline Albright (1997 – 2001) and lauded by the Clintons.

In the same manner, Yugoslavia was bombed by the US humanitarian coalition air forces and cruise missiles over 1,000 times from March 24 to June 11, 2009 in the course of sub-dividing the country into five backward ‘ethnically cleansed’ mini-states. Thousands of factories, public buildings, bridges, passenger trains, radio stations, embassies, apartment complexes and hospitals were devastated; over a million victims became refugees while hundreds of thousands were wounded or killed.

The Conjugal Presidency successfully carried out the bloodiest war of aggression in Europe since the Nazi invasion during WWII, in order to subdivide an ethnically diverse and industrially advanced federation whose independent foreign policies had angered the Western corporate empire.

The Clintons launched the military invasion of Somalia (in East Africa) to impose a vassal regime, leading to the death of many thousands and a regional imperial war. Faced with desperate popular resistance from the Somalis, the Clintons were forced to withdraw US troops and bring in thousands of Sub-Saharan African and Ethiopian mercenaries – whose death would pass unnoticed among the US electorate.

From 1992 through 2001 the Clinton war machine helped set up the Yeltsin kleptocratic vassal state in Russia facilitating the greatest peace-time pillage of state resources in world history.

In the post-Soviet breakup era, over 1 trillion dollars of former public assets were seized especially by US and British-allied Zionist gangsters, Clinton-affiliated officials and ‘academics’ and Wall Street bankers. Under Clinton’s vassalage the entire Soviet public health system was eliminated and Yeltsin’s Russia experienced a population decline of 4.3 million citizens, mostly due to diseases, alcohol and drug toxicity, suicide, malnutrition, unemployment and loss of wages, pensions and and an unprecedented epidemic of tuberculosis and infectious diseases once thought wiped out, like syphilis and diphtheria.

Senator Hillary Clinton: War Crimes by Association- January 3, 2001 to January 21, 2009

During the George W. Bush dynastic regime, Mme. Senator Clinton supported the US war machine ‘sowing death and destruction to the four corners of the earth’ (to quote Bush Jr.), millions in Iraq and Afghanistan died or fled in terror. Bush had only deepened and expanded the mayhem that the Clinton Conjugal Presidency had begun a decade earlier.

Mme. Senator Clinton promoted the US direct and unprovoked invasion and occupation of Iraq and the war in Afghanistan. Mme. Senator Clinton embraced crippling economic sanctions against Iran and she blessed Israel’s 4 military assault against Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza and Israeli massacres in Lebanon.

Mme. Senator Clinton supported President Junior Bush’s aborted coup against Venezuelan President-elect Hugo Chavez (2002), a prelude to the coup attempts in Latin America that she directed later as US Secretary of State.

Hillary Clinton’s Senatorial term served as a transition linking her initial joint presidential period of wars of conquest onto the next period. As US Secretary of State under President Obama she aggressively promoted global military supremacy.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: Naked Militarism Unleashed (2009 – 2014)

Whatever restraints Mme. Clinton faced as Senator dissolved as she ran amok during her term as Secretary of State. Across Europe, Africa, Latin America and the Middle East, Hillary Clinton bombed, massacred and dispossessed millions of families, shredding entire societies and dismantling the institutions of organized civil life for scores of millions. She never balked at the prospect of ethnocide and even joked that NATO might become ‘Al Queda’s Air Force’ as she pushed for a ‘no-fly zone’ over Syria.

A wild-eyed cackle echoed down the marbled corridors as the Foggy Bottom turned into a psycho- ward.

Mme. Secretary promoted the terror mercenary brigades invading Syria in a bid to ‘regime change’ the secular government of Al Assad, driving several million Syrian refugees into flight. Entire ancient Syrian Christian communities were wiped out under her reign of ‘regime change’.

Mme. Secretary Clinton directed US air force bombers and missiles to buttress the despotic Saudi monarch’s drive to obliterate Yemen.

Clinton unleashed the most savage bombing against Libya destroying the country and leading to the ethnic cleansing of a million and a half of Sub-Sahara workers and Black Libyans of sub-Saharan descent.

ORDER IT NOW

Under the aegis of murderous jihadi warlords and tribal chiefs, Mme. Clinton joked over the torture death of the wounded captive President Gadhafi, whose nauseating, almost pornographic murder by anal impalement was documented as a kind of ‘regime-change’ snuff film. Less known is the earlier, almost Old Testament-type slaughter of several of Gadhafi’s nonpolitical children and five small grandchildren by a deliberate US missile strike aimed at ‘teaching the dictator’ that even his smallest grandchild cannot be hidden.

Mme. Clinton, who bragged that her Biblical role-model is the ethnocidal Queen Ester, has declared unconditional support for Israel’s war crimes against Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and among the diaspora. Hillary endorsed and defended Israeli torture and prison camps for children, the elderly and the homeless.

Mme. Secretary sent her criminal sub-secretary Victoria Nuland (an unreconstructed Neo-Con holdover from the Bush Administration) to orchestrate the violent putsch in the Ukraine. Millions from Ukraine’s huge ethnic Russian population were dispossessed from the Donbas region. Mme. Clinton had sought to convert Russian strategic military assets in Crimea to US-NATO bases aimed at Moscow, causing the residents of Crimea to overwhelmingly reject the coup and vote to re-join Russia.

The forceful intervention by Russian President Vladimir Putin prevented Mme. Clinton’s ethnic cleansing power grab in Crimea and the Donbas. The US retaliated by pushing for massive European Union economic sanctions against Russia.

Consistent with her pitiless Biblical role model, Mme. Clinton openly threatened to obliterate Iran with a nuclear war and incinerate 76 million Iranians to please her Uncle Netanyahu – a demented process that would poison a hundred million Arabs and perhaps a few million Israelis. Even the insane Israeli ‘Samson option’ was never dreamt of being ordered from Washington, DC!

During her tenure as Secretary of State, Mme. Clinton actively obstructed any diplomatic moves to achieve a US-Iran agreement on nuclear technology, parroting the Israeli militarist solution against regional rivals!

Mme. Clinton has remained an unrepentant enemy to the emerging independent Latin American governments. In search of vassal states, Clinton 7 promoted successful military coups in Honduras and Paraguay, but was defeated in Venezuela. She proudly touts the death squad regime in Honduras among her foreign policy successes.

Mme. Hillary backed the death squad and narco-regimes in Colombia and Mexico, which killed over a hundred thousand civilians.

On the path to global war, Mme. Militarist has prepared to encircle Russia, stationing nuclear weapons in the Balkans and Poland. She promised that missiles would be placed in south central Europe and Ukraine.

Clinton raised the nuclear ante by hysterically claiming that the elected Russian President Vladimir Putin was ‘worse than ISIS’… ‘worse’ than Hitler.

Repeatedly threatening global war and actually making aggressive regional war should clearly have marked Mme. Hillary Clinton as unfit for the Presidency of the United States. She is politically, intellectually and emotionally unable to deal realistically with an independent Russia and any other independent power, including China and Iran. Her monomania is a course of violent ‘regime changes’, unable to evaluate any of the catastrophes her policymaking has in fact already produced.

Hillary Clinton was the proud author and director of the so-called US ‘pivot to Asia’. Clinton’s ‘pivot’ has led to a massive buildup of the US air and naval forces surrounding China’s maritime routes to its global markets and access to essential raw materials.

Clinton’s hyper-militarism expanded US war zones to cover Australia, Japan and the Philippines, greatly heightening tensions and increasing the possibility of a military provocation leading to nuclear war with China.

No US presidential contender, past or present, has engaged in more offensive wars, in a shorter time, uttering greater nuclear threats than Mme. Hillary Clinton. That she has not yet set off the nuclear holocaust is probably a result of the Administrative constraints imposed on the Mme. Secretary of State by the less blood-thirsty President Obama. These limitations will end if and when Mme. Hillary Clinton is ‘elected’ President of the United States in a process that the electorate increasingly knows is ‘rigged’ toward that outcome.

Donald Trump: the Peaceful Road to Recession

In sharp contrast to the militarist Mme. Clinton, Donald Trump, ‘the Businessman’, has adopted a relatively peaceful approach to international politics for an American presidential candidate in the current era.

‘Businessman’ Trump envisions productive negotiations with Russian President Putin. Employing his loudly trumpeted deal-making genius to benefit the United States, Trump predicts economic and diplomatic successes with Russia, China and other major powers.

Angered at US military allies enjoying decades of US Treasury largesse, a President Trump promises to withdraw US military bases from Asia and Europe and demanding that overseas allies ‘pony-up’ for their own defense.

What the war mongers in the mass media, academia and Washington bureaucracy, dismiss as ‘Trump’s isolationism’, The Businessman describes as rebuilding America by converting overseas military spending into domestic infrastructure projects and ‘real’ jobs in America.

Trump’s ‘America First’ policy, under his ‘Make America Great Again’ slogan, does not envision wars of conquest against Muslim countries, especially since they have already led to massive floods of Muslim refugees, threatening trade and stability, and Trump opposition to the entry of more Muslim refugees into the US. Trump’s foreign policy of limited military goals and warfare is diametrically opposed to Clinton’s total war strategy. Trump, ridiculed by his rivals for ‘his small hands’, does not appear to have Hillary’s itchy trigger finger on the nuclear button!

Trump mouths contradictory economic statements, especially his proposals to “rebuild America”, while operating in the framework of an imperial system. As President of the United States, his protectionist policies will come into direct confrontation with US and global ‘finance and monopoly capitalism’ and will likely lead to systematic disinvestment and a disastrous economic collapse or, more likely, the Businessman-President’s capitulation to the status quo.

The problem is not Trump’s pledges to tax the rich (as he occasionally promises) , or expand Social Security (as he claims), but his failure to admit that these policies would lead to massive flight by the capitalist elite to avoid 10 taxes. The major threat is that, if Trump follows-up on his America-First policies, there will be massive capital resistance and a Congressional revolt by both finance-dominated political parties, which will paralyze any hope for his economic agenda.

Without political independence to implement his domestic economic agenda, Trump will have to face a massive investment and lending revolt from capitalists and bankers who would be very willing to drive the fragile economy into a major recession – threatening a kind of ‘domestic economic sabotage’.

Trump’s Republican Party (and certainly the Democrats) will never support a program which will force multi-national capital to sacrifice its reliance on cheap overseas labor and double digit profits in order to create American jobs and employ American workers at living wages.

A President Trump would not even secure a handful of Congressional votes to increase taxes on plutocrats to fund his proposed large-scale public works, infrastructure and job creation projects.

The Businessman President would face the full fury of the powerful military-industrial-high tech complex if and when he attempted to retire US global military forces from Europe, Asia, the Middle East and Africa.

ORDER IT NOW

The non-politician Trump’s historic rise to national political prominence has its roots in the ideas and values of the majority of working people who have been marginalized to the fringes by the media moguls and Wall Street riff-raff. Today Trump’s themes and ideas resonate with the mainstream of voters.

Several dominant ideas circulate in his speeches and interviews.

First, Trump rejects ‘globalization’ (the watered-down PR term for imperialism) and ‘free trade’ (a euphemism for the transfer of profits extracted from US workers to business investment abroad).

Trump’s narrative resonates with the recent anti-Wall Street ‘Occupy’ movements opposing the power of 0.1% super rich against the vast majority.

Secondly, Trump embraces economic nationalism in his slogan “Make American Great Again”. Too many American workers and their families resent having been exploited, maimed and slaughtered to serve multiple wars in the Middle East, Asia and Europe for the interests of US warlords, bankers, Zionists and other imperial royalties. Trump argues that the entire inflated security and corporate welfare system has led to an untenable debt payments spiral.

The third theme that draws millions is Trump’s notion that the US should reject the policy of serial ‘regime change’. We should not initiate and engage in perpetual overseas wars against Muslim countries as a way to avoid domestic attacks by individual terrorists. During an early foreign policy debate, Trump shocked the political establishment when he accused the Bush Administration of deliberately lying the country into the disastrous invasion of Iraq. This ‘truth-telling’ elicited wild applause from the mass Republican electorate.

Trump’s goal is to strengthen American civilization and avoid provoking more ‘clashes of civilizations’…

The fourth, and probably most attractive, message to most Americans is Trump’s powerful assault on Washington and Wall Street elites and their academic and media apologists.

Millions of Americans have been disgusted with the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas, as well as the Morgans, Goldman Sachs and Paulsons, whose policies have exacerbated class inequalities through multiple banking swindles and financial crashes, all ‘bailed out’ by the American tax payers.

Fifth, Trump’s loud, brash exposure of the mass media’s lies and propaganda has resonated with the same deep distrust felt by the American public. His talent for talking directly and bluntly to the public and on the internet has led to his enormous appeal. He does not engage in ‘conspiracy’ but acknowledges that the Edward Snowden revelations have unmasked the government’s deceptions and its program of espionage against the people, destroying the foundations for democratic discourse.

Trump might win the election based on his ‘five truths’ and his pledge to ‘make America great again’, but more likely he will lose because he has insulted the traditional establishment, the Latinos, Afro-Americans, feminists, trade union bureaucrats and their followers from both parties. Even if he succeeds at the ballot box, his political agenda with relying on Republican elites in Washington and Wall Street, the Pentagon and the ‘international security system’ will lead to a major economic crisis. For the elite, if blocking Trump’s domestic economic agenda requires a financial crash to defend ‘globalization’, serial wars and the 0.1%, then tighten your belts!

This November, the country will face the disagreeable choice between a proven nuclear warmonger and a captive of Wall Street. I will try to keep warm, roast chestnuts and avoid thinking about Mme. President’s Looming Mushroom Cloud.

(Republished from The James Petras Website by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Better a crash than a nuclear war! A good economic crisis might provide the impetus we need to overthrow the status quo.

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  2. A bit long but just the same an excellent bill of particulars against BOTH. A Hobson’s Choice I’m afraid but–if some Luca Brazzi held a gun to my head and gave me the choice of my signature or my brains on the contract– I would have to apply a shaky pen to paper and write Trump’s name.

    That…that awful woman…who sounds like a rooster in heat, is not only off-the-wall but flat-out dangerous.

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  3. the crash is coming whether we like it or not. In order to deal with it, things may have to get worse to get better. Of course, you cannot tell a democracy this, because the sheeple are trained to believe in the boundless magic of bureaucrat imagined plans.

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    • Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    You are correct, it is inevitable. The only question is whether our response will be to adopt sensible fiscal measures or to kick the can down the road, as we did following the 2008 crash. I'm betting on the latter.
    , @rod1963
    Oh you can tell them. Problem is the MSM won't carry it. They've been peddling the same happy talk BS for decades as our economy is imploding and Wall Street blows ever more speculative bubbles.

    And yes the crash is coming. Still I'd rather have Trump at the helm than a war crazed Neo-Con maniac like Hillary whose foreign police expertise is a series of wrecked nations and bloody wars.

    At least he has some business savvy and knows finance. Hillary knows only how to swindle.
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  4. When Mr. Trump begins a serious attack on Ms Clinton, his best weapon would be video of the result of Hillary’s destruction. Americans are tired of war and empire. Show maps of where American troops are now “exercising” in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Yemen, Syria, and the nation of Georgia. Show the chaos in Libya, in Iraq, in Ukraine, and note that a vote for Hillary may be a vote for nuclear war. Show video of her insulting North Korea and Russia. Something like the famous 1964 television hit against Barry Goldwater.

    At the end, appeal to older Americans and Sanders people with: “Do you want to ‘Duck and Cover’? Trump for Peace! This will crush her.

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    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
    trump can never, ever do that because it will drag israel into the mud too. AIPAC would murder him. trump's advisors are way too smart for that.
    , @Kiza
    My impression too is that the US citizens are tired of any more wars. However, I note a very interesting development in the preparation for the big clash between Clinton and Trump: the paid trolls of the Hillary campaign have already started promoting in comments sections the point that Trump is even more likely to start a nuclear war.

    This is actually not dumb at all. It is not intended to convince us that Trump is bellicose, only the most blind supporters of Hillary could believe this. It is intended to dilute this particularly valid criticism against Hillary - that she is quite likely to start a nuclear war (and end the life on Earth). Everybody knows Hillary's war-loving record. But if you start early with some propaganda point, even before the other side has used this argument against you, you have a major first-starters advantage and you soften up the impact of the other side's criticism: "we heard that one before!". People do not like the "me toos".

    Remember how miserable the Hillary's copy-cat add looked after Trump put his out first about Hillary barking like a chihuahua! The Hillary's own add made her look even worse because it was so unoriginal.
    Trump's ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMZqS7q7voY
    Hillary's response: https://youtu.be/V_eTKSzoAUY
    Most people said - if I have to chose between two fools, I would rather have the one who speaks with himself than the one which barks like a dog and lacks the brain to create an original ad.

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  5. the more i think about it the more this article is a defeatist tract.

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  6. joe webb says:

    Petras makes close to zero sense on Trump. He does not understand what is happening and his claim that Trump will bungle things because he depends on ‘Republican elites’ is dramatically untrue

    with regard to the Pentagon, it will do what Trump and the rest of us want…no more wars for the jews, and no more adventures in Nation Building.

    Petras is short on analysis of Trump cuz, this is so New and outside the ken of lefties. At least he is not calling Trump a fascist..at least not yet. He will, sooner or later.

    “..the country will face the disagreeable choice between a proven nuclear warmonger and a captive of Wall Street.” I assume the means that Trump is a captive of wall St. There is nothing to so suggest.

    Remember Adlai Stevenson…all youse guys over 70…the Democratic nominee against Ike in about 1952 or so….Mort Sahl, the jew comic…has Stevenson shouting out the window toward the GOP parade…Big Business!

    This is about all Petras can do….the reason we die is so new folks can give it a try in maybe another way.

    Joe Webb

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  7. @Lemurmaniac
    the crash is coming whether we like it or not. In order to deal with it, things may have to get worse to get better. Of course, you cannot tell a democracy this, because the sheeple are trained to believe in the boundless magic of bureaucrat imagined plans.

    You are correct, it is inevitable. The only question is whether our response will be to adopt sensible fiscal measures or to kick the can down the road, as we did following the 2008 crash. I’m betting on the latter.

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  8. rod1963 says:
    @Lemurmaniac
    the crash is coming whether we like it or not. In order to deal with it, things may have to get worse to get better. Of course, you cannot tell a democracy this, because the sheeple are trained to believe in the boundless magic of bureaucrat imagined plans.

    Oh you can tell them. Problem is the MSM won’t carry it. They’ve been peddling the same happy talk BS for decades as our economy is imploding and Wall Street blows ever more speculative bubbles.

    And yes the crash is coming. Still I’d rather have Trump at the helm than a war crazed Neo-Con maniac like Hillary whose foreign police expertise is a series of wrecked nations and bloody wars.

    At least he has some business savvy and knows finance. Hillary knows only how to swindle.

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    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
    "And yes the crash is coming. Still I'd rather have Trump at the helm than a war crazed Neo-Con maniac like Hillary whose foreign policy expertise is a series of wrecked nations and bloody wars.

    "At least he has some business savvy and knows finance. Hillary knows only how to swindle."

    I associate myself with your comments.
    , @dahoit
    Yes,the hell bitch is a psychopathic bubblehead.
    Trump is gonna win,yeah,hes takin over,c'mon!5 planks to one new world order,and the end of America as the Israeli Foreign Legion.hoo hah!
    You can bet the zionists don't like it,one bit.
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  9. Rehmat says:

    Dr. James Petras – in a nutshell, both Hillary and Trump are two sides of the same coin for the anti-war Americans and 2 billion Muslims around the world. As far the ‘war party’ is concerned, Hillary has more credentials as a politician than Trump the backbencher.

    The pro-Israel ‘war party’ has chosen Hillary Clinton to be next US president, and no matter what the anti-immigration White Supremacist do, their favorite Donald Trump is not going to make it the White House. Why?

    Hillary Clinton with Jewish family roots along with her daughter married to a rich Zionist Jew – she had destroyed Libya for Israel and currently working on bringing a pro-Israel regime change in Syria.

    A March 27, 2011, intelligence brief, Sidney Stone Blumenthal, the Jewish aid to her husband, former president Bill Clinton of Monica Lewinsky fame, and long-time Hillary’s confident shows her dirty fingers behind the destruction of Africa’s most rich and liberal Muslim-majority Libyan nation and the brutal murder of its leader Muammar Qaddafi.

    During the world powers negotiations in Istanbul in 2012, according to Wikileaks, US secretary of state (2009-2013) Hillary Clinton sent an e-mail, saying: “The best way to help Israel deal with Iran’s growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad.”

    The email makes it clear that it has been US policy from the very beginning to violently overthrow the Syrian government—and specifically to do this because it is in Israel’s interests.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/05/19/hillary-destroy-syria-for-israel-like-libya/

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  10. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    ❝In the same manner, Yugoslavia was bombed by the US humanitarian coalition air forces and cruise missiles over 1,000 times from March 24 to June 11, 2009 in the course of sub-dividing the country into five backward ‘ethnically cleansed’ mini-states.❞

    This happened in 1999, not 2009 — otherwise good and accurate, thanks.

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  11. macilrae says:

    I think Hillary’s world is a very simple, superficial one – the ‘gravitas’ so lacking in Bill’s presidency is hugely amplified in her general manner and style. While being asked for a decision on some vital matter of foreign policy one can imagine her attention distracted to some moronic event from the entertainment industry. Hillary is, and always has been, under total control with, I suggest, not a single original thought of her own – she is a creature of pure spin. Her minders are of course those exuberant neocons who have been largely running foreign and financial policy since her husband’s days. Only now, if she is elected, they will have all the key appointments to themselves.

    While Donald does indeed present a dire prospect, at least one can say that he proposes to precipitate some actions which will eventually happen anyway – the longer the Greatest Depression is pushed forward in time, the worse will be its consequences. I am also intrigued by the fact that here is a candidate whose behaviour is so openly gross that the scandal merchants seem powerless to touch him – short of a revelation that he has indulged in kiddie porn it is hard to see how they could! Mind you, Sheldon Adelson does not commit $100M without some strings (hooks) attached so maybe his network has come up with something.

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  12. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Julian Assange is something of an expert on Hillary Clinton, having read thousands of her e-mails. He wrote that: “Hillary’s problem is not just that she’s a war hawk. She’s a war hawk with bad judgement who gets an unseemly emotional rush out of killing people.”
    She’s not merely a sadistic war hawk but is incompetent and wrecks whatever she touches. Reinstating the cold war with all it’s constant war hysteria and air raid sirens going off all the time is really not beneficial for the average American. The smaller, weaker countries around the world are simply prey, waiting for their turn to be victimized.
    Trump has taken the view of middle America on most issues, hence his popularity. Now that he increasingly looks to be the candidate they’re trying to figure out how to fit him into a straightjacket so as to get him under control. He wouldn’t be able to do much of what he’s said since they’ll try to stymie him at every turn. The security agencies can pull off false flag events which would force his hand in doing things he wouldn’t want to do. The .1% don’t intend to let the American people off the farm; they have to stay where they’re at and continue to get milked.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Correct. Clinton is indeed a bloody warmonger.
    An ongoing burlesque in Israel promises more bloodshed on orders from Israel. "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sought on Wednesday to bring the ultranationalist Yisrael Beiteinu party into his governing coalition by offering to name its leader, Avigdor Lieberman, defense minister..."
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-netanyahu-politics-idUSKCN0YA1DA

    "His [Lieberman] Hebrew is broken, his English a farce, his expressions repellent in any language. Even worse than his vicious excoriations, which have reached a new nadir, is Israelis’ apathy to them. The foreign minister said, “Those who are against us ... we need to pick up an ax and cut off his head,” aiming his ax at Arab Israelis. Such a remark would end the career and guarantee lifetime ostracism of any Western statesman. Only superannuated African dictators speak of axes and beheading — and the leaders of Islamic State, of course. But such is the intellectual, cultural and moral world of Israel’s foreign minister, a bully who was once convicted of physically assaulting a child." http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.646914
    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.646914

    Avigdor Lieberman, a former Soviet and felon, is the face of apartheid in Israel: "Israeli Arabs who are disloyal to the State of Israel should have their heads chopped off, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said at an elections conference at the Interdisciplinary Center Herzliya...: "http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/1.646076
    Why do his bloody words make one think about AIPAC?

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  14. annamaria says:
    @anonymous
    Julian Assange is something of an expert on Hillary Clinton, having read thousands of her e-mails. He wrote that: "Hillary's problem is not just that she's a war hawk. She's a war hawk with bad judgement who gets an unseemly emotional rush out of killing people."
    She's not merely a sadistic war hawk but is incompetent and wrecks whatever she touches. Reinstating the cold war with all it's constant war hysteria and air raid sirens going off all the time is really not beneficial for the average American. The smaller, weaker countries around the world are simply prey, waiting for their turn to be victimized.
    Trump has taken the view of middle America on most issues, hence his popularity. Now that he increasingly looks to be the candidate they're trying to figure out how to fit him into a straightjacket so as to get him under control. He wouldn't be able to do much of what he's said since they'll try to stymie him at every turn. The security agencies can pull off false flag events which would force his hand in doing things he wouldn't want to do. The .1% don't intend to let the American people off the farm; they have to stay where they're at and continue to get milked.

    Correct. Clinton is indeed a bloody warmonger.
    An ongoing burlesque in Israel promises more bloodshed on orders from Israel. “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sought on Wednesday to bring the ultranationalist Yisrael Beiteinu party into his governing coalition by offering to name its leader, Avigdor Lieberman, defense minister…”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-netanyahu-politics-idUSKCN0YA1DA

    “His [Lieberman] Hebrew is broken, his English a farce, his expressions repellent in any language. Even worse than his vicious excoriations, which have reached a new nadir, is Israelis’ apathy to them. The foreign minister said, “Those who are against us … we need to pick up an ax and cut off his head,” aiming his ax at Arab Israelis. Such a remark would end the career and guarantee lifetime ostracism of any Western statesman. Only superannuated African dictators speak of axes and beheading — and the leaders of Islamic State, of course. But such is the intellectual, cultural and moral world of Israel’s foreign minister, a bully who was once convicted of physically assaulting a child.” http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.646914

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.646914

    Avigdor Lieberman, a former Soviet and felon, is the face of apartheid in Israel: “Israeli Arabs who are disloyal to the State of Israel should have their heads chopped off, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said at an elections conference at the Interdisciplinary Center Herzliya…: “http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/1.646076
    Why do his bloody words make one think about AIPAC?

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  15. Finally someone who totally nails the Queen of Chaos. This is the best description I’ve read on Clinton’s gloating, over the murder of Gaddafi, “We came, we saw, he died!”: “A wild-eyed cackle echoed down the marbled corridors as Foggy Bottom turned into a psycho-ward.” Her actions not only wrecked Libya but opened up Europe’s southern flank to a Third World invasion. Her fathomless financial corruption makes her the capo di tutti capi of the Clinton Crime Family, Ma Barker in a pantsuit. And to top it all, her deluded “feminist” and mainstream media fans don’t seem to care that they’re risking World War III.

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  16. bondo says:

    we voted
    WE counted
    she lost

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  17. Boris says:

    There is a strong chance that the election of ultra-militarist Hillary Clinton will drive the world into catastrophic global nuclear war.

    This is delusional.

    Trump, ridiculed by his rivals for ‘his small hands’, does not appear to have Hillary’s itchy trigger finger on the nuclear button!

    Pay attention:

    TRUMP: Let me explain. Let me explain. Somebody hits us within ISIS, you wouldn’t fight back with a nuke?

    So you have it backwards. Trump also won’t stop Japan or Saudi Arabia from getting nukes.

    He does not engage in ‘conspiracy’

    Birtherism, vaccines causing autism, climate change is a Chinese hoax…he’s a huge conspiracy theorist. A delusional president like him would be a huge disaster.

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  18. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:

    Lookie.

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/05/17/crisis-venezuela-hitting-apocalyptic-levels/

    The wonders of Diversity Socialism of the grasshoppers.

    Only Nationalist Socialism of the ants will work.

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  19. Art says:

    Hillary putting Bill in charge of the economy, is an outright admission that she is not qualified to be president – PERIOD.

    I just cannot imagine an America with the Clintons back in the White House – sorry!

    p.s. Trump got it right – Hillary without her Clinton name and her sex is a 5%er – end of story.

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  20. annamaria says:

    Interesting analysis by Saker:
    “… the problem [between the Kremlin and the White House] is not a technological one, but a psychological one: the Americans are apparently simply unable or unwilling to negotiate about anything at all…
    …if Hillary makes it into the White House in November, then things will become really scary. Remember how I said that no US President would ever sacrifice a US city in defense of a European one? Well, that assumes a patriotic President, one who loves his country. I don’t believe that the Neocons give a damn about America or the American people, and these crazies might well think that sacrificing one (or many) US cities is well worth the price if that allows them to nuke Moscow…
    The best thing that could happen for the future of mankind would be if real patriots would come back to power in the United States.”

    http://thesaker.is/debunking-popular-cliches-about-modern-warfare/

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    haha, this "saker" person is very stupid. Or he thinks his readers are stupid. Nobody is going to nuke Moscow.
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  21. @Carlton Meyer
    When Mr. Trump begins a serious attack on Ms Clinton, his best weapon would be video of the result of Hillary's destruction. Americans are tired of war and empire. Show maps of where American troops are now "exercising" in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Yemen, Syria, and the nation of Georgia. Show the chaos in Libya, in Iraq, in Ukraine, and note that a vote for Hillary may be a vote for nuclear war. Show video of her insulting North Korea and Russia. Something like the famous 1964 television hit against Barry Goldwater.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbIfVEboAzg

    At the end, appeal to older Americans and Sanders people with: "Do you want to 'Duck and Cover'? Trump for Peace! This will crush her.

    trump can never, ever do that because it will drag israel into the mud too. AIPAC would murder him. trump’s advisors are way too smart for that.

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  22. woodNfish says:

    Trump mouths contradictory economic statements, especially his proposals to “rebuild America”, while operating in the framework of an imperial system. As President of the United States, his protectionist policies will come into direct confrontation with US and global ‘finance and monopoly capitalism’ and will likely lead to systematic disinvestment and a disastrous economic collapse or, more likely, the Businessman-President’s capitulation to the status quo.

    What a load of BS put out there with nothing to support it as if it is irrevocable truth. It isn’t. Trump isn’t protectionist, he is nationalistic. He is all for trade as long as it is fair to the US and American workers, not the phony “free trade” we have now where our industry and markets are given away as payback for big donor and crony capitalist bribes. Trumps tax plan was created with an eye toward repatriating the $3 trillion or so dollars held overseas to re-invigorate our businesses, industry, jobs and infrastructure here at home. You can read it yourself on his website.

    Do a little homework Petras and stop spouting LSM left-wing smear points and lies about Trump.

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  23. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Re: Over half the US electorate views the two leading candidates for the 2016 Presidential elections with horror and disdain.

    Unfortunately the other almost half of the population is hopelessly ignorant and insouciant.

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  24. @rod1963
    Oh you can tell them. Problem is the MSM won't carry it. They've been peddling the same happy talk BS for decades as our economy is imploding and Wall Street blows ever more speculative bubbles.

    And yes the crash is coming. Still I'd rather have Trump at the helm than a war crazed Neo-Con maniac like Hillary whose foreign police expertise is a series of wrecked nations and bloody wars.

    At least he has some business savvy and knows finance. Hillary knows only how to swindle.

    “And yes the crash is coming. Still I’d rather have Trump at the helm than a war crazed Neo-Con maniac like Hillary whose foreign policy expertise is a series of wrecked nations and bloody wars.

    “At least he has some business savvy and knows finance. Hillary knows only how to swindle.”

    I associate myself with your comments.

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  25. mrjoyboy says:

    If elected, will Trump be able to deliver on his primary campaign promises? Adelson’s already in for $100M, and The Donald is going to need more like that. It’s a catch 22. He’ll have to sell out to get elected as the American campaign $paradigm dictates. The neocans will have him.
    Does he really care?

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  26. Back in 2002 the normally high tensions between India and Pakistan became even higher then usual over Kashmir. There was a very real fear of nuclear war between them. However, the expanding India business class put pressure on the Indian government to ease off, as nuclear war is bad for business. It would certainly be bad for Trump’s real estate business. Can’t really build more condo’s, apartments and casino’s if no one’s left to buy, rent or play. Not to mention what a nuclear bombs would do to the existing Trump empire.

    As of this point, the Donald doesn’t have any blood on his hands. That certainly can’t be said of the Clinton’s.

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  27. Kiza says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    When Mr. Trump begins a serious attack on Ms Clinton, his best weapon would be video of the result of Hillary's destruction. Americans are tired of war and empire. Show maps of where American troops are now "exercising" in Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Yemen, Syria, and the nation of Georgia. Show the chaos in Libya, in Iraq, in Ukraine, and note that a vote for Hillary may be a vote for nuclear war. Show video of her insulting North Korea and Russia. Something like the famous 1964 television hit against Barry Goldwater.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbIfVEboAzg

    At the end, appeal to older Americans and Sanders people with: "Do you want to 'Duck and Cover'? Trump for Peace! This will crush her.

    My impression too is that the US citizens are tired of any more wars. However, I note a very interesting development in the preparation for the big clash between Clinton and Trump: the paid trolls of the Hillary campaign have already started promoting in comments sections the point that Trump is even more likely to start a nuclear war.

    This is actually not dumb at all. It is not intended to convince us that Trump is bellicose, only the most blind supporters of Hillary could believe this. It is intended to dilute this particularly valid criticism against Hillary – that she is quite likely to start a nuclear war (and end the life on Earth). Everybody knows Hillary’s war-loving record. But if you start early with some propaganda point, even before the other side has used this argument against you, you have a major first-starters advantage and you soften up the impact of the other side’s criticism: “we heard that one before!”. People do not like the “me toos”.

    Remember how miserable the Hillary’s copy-cat add looked after Trump put his out first about Hillary barking like a chihuahua! The Hillary’s own add made her look even worse because it was so unoriginal.
    Trump’s ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMZqS7q7voY
    Hillary’s response: https://youtu.be/V_eTKSzoAUY
    Most people said – if I have to chose between two fools, I would rather have the one who speaks with himself than the one which barks like a dog and lacks the brain to create an original ad.

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    that she is quite likely to start a nuclear war (and end the life on Earth)
     
    Where do you people come up with this stuff? I don't think Trump is going to start a nuclear war, but he is the only candidate who has talked about using nukes on ISIS and who doesn't have a problem with nuclear proliferation.

    But sure Hillary wants to end life on earth because...um...I guess Jews and blacks? Solid theory.
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  28. Boris says:
    @annamaria
    Interesting analysis by Saker:
    "... the problem [between the Kremlin and the White House] is not a technological one, but a psychological one: the Americans are apparently simply unable or unwilling to negotiate about anything at all...
    ...if Hillary makes it into the White House in November, then things will become really scary. Remember how I said that no US President would ever sacrifice a US city in defense of a European one? Well, that assumes a patriotic President, one who loves his country. I don’t believe that the Neocons give a damn about America or the American people, and these crazies might well think that sacrificing one (or many) US cities is well worth the price if that allows them to nuke Moscow...
    The best thing that could happen for the future of mankind would be if real patriots would come back to power in the United States."
    http://thesaker.is/debunking-popular-cliches-about-modern-warfare/

    haha, this “saker” person is very stupid. Or he thinks his readers are stupid. Nobody is going to nuke Moscow.

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    You should first read his article:
    http://thesaker.is/debunking-popular-cliches-about-modern-warfare/

    Otherwise your post could make a poor impression on the UnzReview readers.

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  29. Boris says:
    @Kiza
    My impression too is that the US citizens are tired of any more wars. However, I note a very interesting development in the preparation for the big clash between Clinton and Trump: the paid trolls of the Hillary campaign have already started promoting in comments sections the point that Trump is even more likely to start a nuclear war.

    This is actually not dumb at all. It is not intended to convince us that Trump is bellicose, only the most blind supporters of Hillary could believe this. It is intended to dilute this particularly valid criticism against Hillary - that she is quite likely to start a nuclear war (and end the life on Earth). Everybody knows Hillary's war-loving record. But if you start early with some propaganda point, even before the other side has used this argument against you, you have a major first-starters advantage and you soften up the impact of the other side's criticism: "we heard that one before!". People do not like the "me toos".

    Remember how miserable the Hillary's copy-cat add looked after Trump put his out first about Hillary barking like a chihuahua! The Hillary's own add made her look even worse because it was so unoriginal.
    Trump's ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMZqS7q7voY
    Hillary's response: https://youtu.be/V_eTKSzoAUY
    Most people said - if I have to chose between two fools, I would rather have the one who speaks with himself than the one which barks like a dog and lacks the brain to create an original ad.

    that she is quite likely to start a nuclear war (and end the life on Earth)

    Where do you people come up with this stuff? I don’t think Trump is going to start a nuclear war, but he is the only candidate who has talked about using nukes on ISIS and who doesn’t have a problem with nuclear proliferation.

    But sure Hillary wants to end life on earth because…um…I guess Jews and blacks? Solid theory.

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    "Dumb Jews make the best Israeli propagandists," Rabbi Devod Weis.

    Jews have 400 nuclear bombs while Blacks have none.
    , @Kiza
    Trump is looking for a solution regarding ISIS, any solution even a far fetched one. Unlike the hopeless Barry Bombama and Killary, who are both going through the motions of fighting ISIS, whilst arming and training fighters which later join ISIS. Oh, what a shocking surprise, they could have never thought something like that could happen, after the same thing happening only a hundred times already!
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  30. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:

    Non-whites come to white nations cuz they can’t stand their own kind. If they can’t stand their own kind, why should whites stand them?

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  31. Rehmat says:
    @Boris

    that she is quite likely to start a nuclear war (and end the life on Earth)
     
    Where do you people come up with this stuff? I don't think Trump is going to start a nuclear war, but he is the only candidate who has talked about using nukes on ISIS and who doesn't have a problem with nuclear proliferation.

    But sure Hillary wants to end life on earth because...um...I guess Jews and blacks? Solid theory.

    “Dumb Jews make the best Israeli propagandists,” Rabbi Devod Weis.

    Jews have 400 nuclear bombs while Blacks have none.

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  32. Kiza says:
    @Boris

    that she is quite likely to start a nuclear war (and end the life on Earth)
     
    Where do you people come up with this stuff? I don't think Trump is going to start a nuclear war, but he is the only candidate who has talked about using nukes on ISIS and who doesn't have a problem with nuclear proliferation.

    But sure Hillary wants to end life on earth because...um...I guess Jews and blacks? Solid theory.

    Trump is looking for a solution regarding ISIS, any solution even a far fetched one. Unlike the hopeless Barry Bombama and Killary, who are both going through the motions of fighting ISIS, whilst arming and training fighters which later join ISIS. Oh, what a shocking surprise, they could have never thought something like that could happen, after the same thing happening only a hundred times already!

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    Vietnamization doesn't work in the desert any better than it did in Vietnam. At least the weapons we bought for China are not being used on us YET.
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  33. If the congress critters want to help trash the economy rather than help Trump, great! All the quicker they will be fired.

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  34. annamaria says:
    @Boris
    haha, this "saker" person is very stupid. Or he thinks his readers are stupid. Nobody is going to nuke Moscow.

    You should first read his article:

    http://thesaker.is/debunking-popular-cliches-about-modern-warfare/

    Otherwise your post could make a poor impression on the UnzReview readers.

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  35. annamaria says:

    The facts have been piling up: https://consortiumnews.com/2016/05/19/how-israel-out-foxed-us-presidents-5/
    like this: “On Sept. 16, 1982, Israel’s Christian militia allies, with Israeli military support, entered the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps, and conducted a three-day campaign of rape and murder. Most of the dead with estimates varying from Israel’s count of 400 to a Palestinian estimate of nearly 1,000 were women and children….

    and this: “The neocons arrived with a plan to transform the Middle East based on a scheme prepared by a group of American neocons, including Perle and Feith, for Netanyahu in 1996. Called “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” the idea was to bring to heel all the antagonistic states confronting Israel.”

    and this: “Without America’s military, diplomatic and economic support, Israel could not exist in its present form. One-quarter of Israeli wage incomes are derived from American aid money, German reparations and various charities. Without that outside assistance, Israel’s standard of living would sink dramatically.”

    And here is a conclusion: “Over the past six decades, Israeli leaders have refined their strategies for taking advantage of their staunchest ally, the United States. Today, with many powerful friends inside the United States and with Obama facing intense political pressure over his domestic and national security policies the Israeli government has plenty of reasons to believe that it can out-fox and outlast the current U.S. president as it did many of his predecessors.”
    In short, the parasitoid continues feasting on the captured host.

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    Dear annamarina:
    I have no dog in this fight, and I am "English learner".
    So my question is about English in you comment.
    You wrote (or cited) the combination of 4 words:

    Israel’s Christian militia allies,
     
    Did it mean that you were talking about allies of {Israel’s Christian militia},
    who by themselves did not constitute {Israel’s Christian militia} ?
    Or was it about militia allies of {Israel’s Christian} ?
    Or may be it was about Christian militia allies of {Israel} ?
    The combination Israel’s Christian militia
    reminds me a citation (from satirical song of USSR times):

    [...] Когда восстанет иудейское казачество,
    В Биробиджане вспыхнет перворот, (sic!)
    А кто затронет город наш Бердичев,
    Тому холера прыгнет прямо в рот.[...]

    Your friendly, I.f.f.U.

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  36. @annamaria
    The facts have been piling up: https://consortiumnews.com/2016/05/19/how-israel-out-foxed-us-presidents-5/
    like this: "On Sept. 16, 1982, Israel’s Christian militia allies, with Israeli military support, entered the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps, and conducted a three-day campaign of rape and murder. Most of the dead with estimates varying from Israel’s count of 400 to a Palestinian estimate of nearly 1,000 were women and children....

    and this: "The neocons arrived with a plan to transform the Middle East based on a scheme prepared by a group of American neocons, including Perle and Feith, for Netanyahu in 1996. Called “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” the idea was to bring to heel all the antagonistic states confronting Israel."

    and this: "Without America’s military, diplomatic and economic support, Israel could not exist in its present form. One-quarter of Israeli wage incomes are derived from American aid money, German reparations and various charities. Without that outside assistance, Israel’s standard of living would sink dramatically."

    And here is a conclusion: "Over the past six decades, Israeli leaders have refined their strategies for taking advantage of their staunchest ally, the United States. Today, with many powerful friends inside the United States and with Obama facing intense political pressure over his domestic and national security policies the Israeli government has plenty of reasons to believe that it can out-fox and outlast the current U.S. president as it did many of his predecessors."
    In short, the parasitoid continues feasting on the captured host.

    Dear annamarina:
    I have no dog in this fight, and I am “English learner”.
    So my question is about English in you comment.
    You wrote (or cited) the combination of 4 words:

    Israel’s Christian militia allies,

    Did it mean that you were talking about allies of {Israel’s Christian militia},
    who by themselves did not constitute {Israel’s Christian militia} ?
    Or was it about militia allies of {Israel’s Christian} ?
    Or may be it was about Christian militia allies of {Israel} ?
    The combination Israel’s Christian militia
    reminds me a citation (from satirical song of USSR times):

    [...] Когда восстанет иудейское казачество,
    В Биробиджане вспыхнет перворот, (sic!)
    А кто затронет город наш Бердичев,
    Тому холера прыгнет прямо в рот.[...]

    Your friendly, I.f.f.U.

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  37. KA says:

    “This time around, Trump reacted to the terror attack in San Bernardino, Calif., with a nakedly nativist, shamelessly demagogic, yet politically shrewd call for (temporarily, allegedly) banning all Muslims from entering the U.S. Roundly denounced by Democrats and leading Republicans alike, Trump watch

    ed his poll numbers go through the roof. Turns out that GOP voters supported the ban, 2-to-1.”

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-bernie-sanders-supporters-trump-clinton-krauthammer-perspec-20160519

    And then this gem -”The Republicans’ ideological about-face is even more pronounced. They’ve chosen as their leader a nationalist populist who hardly bothers to pretend any allegiance to conservatism.”

    It was the Neocons who brought and who created the Anti-Muslim sentiment in this country and is creating in the West .

    It is the Neocns who purged the Conservatives of any conservatism .

    One of the bomber boys has said this earlier -”Two days after the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting, he appeared on Fox News order to point out the inevitable Islam connection:

    Krauthammer: And he did leave the return address ‘Ismail Ax.’ ‘Ismail Ax.’ I suspect it has some more to do with Islamic terror and the inspiration than it does with the opening line of Moby Dick.” http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2009/08/the-trouble-with-charles-krauthammer

    http://www.salon.com/2007/04/20/krauthammer_5/

    Question should be asked why these self anointed moralist have been given opportunities after opportunities to celebrate their double faced self serving agenda?
    Haven’t we been told where their loyalty lies?

    “Krauthammer who, along with William Safire and A.M. Rosenthal of the New York Times, is a recipient of the Guardian of Zion Award from Israel’s Bar-Ilan University for “support of the Jewish State in print over the years.” -http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cmoore.php?articleid=7894

    It also reminds me of the use of the segregation and civil rights movement by these neocons , making it a wedge issue they advanced their power in the process making some robber and boneless figures as the black leaders . It seems that after creating the rift between West and Arab and between Islam and Christianity (modern day )the neoocns now want to appear as the champion of Islam to further Israeli interests .

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    "...the neoocns now want to appear as the champion of Islam to further Israeli interests..."
    Correct.
    , @Art

    It seems that after creating the rift between West and Arab and between Islam and Christianity (modern day )the neoocns now want to appear as the champion of Islam to further Israeli interests.
     
    Saudi offers to change stance on Israel: Report

    Saudi Arabia and its allies have asked Israel to resume Middle East negotiations under new terms which include changes to Riyadh’s “peace” initiative, Israeli media reports say.

    The kingdom, its Persian Gulf allies, Jordan and Egypt have been sending messages to Israel through various emissaries, including former British PM Tony Blair, the Israeli newspaper Arutz Sheva reported.

    https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2016/05/22/saudi-offers-to-change-stance-on-israel-report/

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  38. annamaria says:
    @KA
    "This time around, Trump reacted to the terror attack in San Bernardino, Calif., with a nakedly nativist, shamelessly demagogic, yet politically shrewd call for (temporarily, allegedly) banning all Muslims from entering the U.S. Roundly denounced by Democrats and leading Republicans alike, Trump watch

    ed his poll numbers go through the roof. Turns out that GOP voters supported the ban, 2-to-1."

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-bernie-sanders-supporters-trump-clinton-krauthammer-perspec-20160519


    And then this gem -"The Republicans' ideological about-face is even more pronounced. They've chosen as their leader a nationalist populist who hardly bothers to pretend any allegiance to conservatism."

    It was the Neocons who brought and who created the Anti-Muslim sentiment in this country and is creating in the West .

    It is the Neocns who purged the Conservatives of any conservatism .


    One of the bomber boys has said this earlier -"Two days after the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting, he appeared on Fox News order to point out the inevitable Islam connection:

    Krauthammer: And he did leave the return address ‘Ismail Ax.’ ‘Ismail Ax.’ I suspect it has some more to do with Islamic terror and the inspiration than it does with the opening line of Moby Dick." http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2009/08/the-trouble-with-charles-krauthammer

    http://www.salon.com/2007/04/20/krauthammer_5/


    Question should be asked why these self anointed moralist have been given opportunities after opportunities to celebrate their double faced self serving agenda?
    Haven't we been told where their loyalty lies?


    "Krauthammer who, along with William Safire and A.M. Rosenthal of the New York Times, is a recipient of the Guardian of Zion Award from Israel's Bar-Ilan University for "support of the Jewish State in print over the years." -http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cmoore.php?articleid=7894


    It also reminds me of the use of the segregation and civil rights movement by these neocons , making it a wedge issue they advanced their power in the process making some robber and boneless figures as the black leaders . It seems that after creating the rift between West and Arab and between Islam and Christianity (modern day )the neoocns now want to appear as the champion of Islam to further Israeli interests .

    “…the neoocns now want to appear as the champion of Islam to further Israeli interests…”
    Correct.

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  40. Art says:

    Hillary is pissed – Netanyahu stole her secretary of defense – Avigdor Lieberman.

    O well’ now he has only 200 nukes at his disposal.

    Golly Gee – what could go wrong?

    p.s. Maybe Netanyahu can be her secretary of state and PM of Israel at the same time?

    p.s. What you say – “he already is?”

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  41. Art says:
    @KA
    "This time around, Trump reacted to the terror attack in San Bernardino, Calif., with a nakedly nativist, shamelessly demagogic, yet politically shrewd call for (temporarily, allegedly) banning all Muslims from entering the U.S. Roundly denounced by Democrats and leading Republicans alike, Trump watch

    ed his poll numbers go through the roof. Turns out that GOP voters supported the ban, 2-to-1."

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-bernie-sanders-supporters-trump-clinton-krauthammer-perspec-20160519


    And then this gem -"The Republicans' ideological about-face is even more pronounced. They've chosen as their leader a nationalist populist who hardly bothers to pretend any allegiance to conservatism."

    It was the Neocons who brought and who created the Anti-Muslim sentiment in this country and is creating in the West .

    It is the Neocns who purged the Conservatives of any conservatism .


    One of the bomber boys has said this earlier -"Two days after the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting, he appeared on Fox News order to point out the inevitable Islam connection:

    Krauthammer: And he did leave the return address ‘Ismail Ax.’ ‘Ismail Ax.’ I suspect it has some more to do with Islamic terror and the inspiration than it does with the opening line of Moby Dick." http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2009/08/the-trouble-with-charles-krauthammer

    http://www.salon.com/2007/04/20/krauthammer_5/


    Question should be asked why these self anointed moralist have been given opportunities after opportunities to celebrate their double faced self serving agenda?
    Haven't we been told where their loyalty lies?


    "Krauthammer who, along with William Safire and A.M. Rosenthal of the New York Times, is a recipient of the Guardian of Zion Award from Israel's Bar-Ilan University for "support of the Jewish State in print over the years." -http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cmoore.php?articleid=7894


    It also reminds me of the use of the segregation and civil rights movement by these neocons , making it a wedge issue they advanced their power in the process making some robber and boneless figures as the black leaders . It seems that after creating the rift between West and Arab and between Islam and Christianity (modern day )the neoocns now want to appear as the champion of Islam to further Israeli interests .

    It seems that after creating the rift between West and Arab and between Islam and Christianity (modern day )the neoocns now want to appear as the champion of Islam to further Israeli interests.

    Saudi offers to change stance on Israel: Report

    Saudi Arabia and its allies have asked Israel to resume Middle East negotiations under new terms which include changes to Riyadh’s “peace” initiative, Israeli media reports say.

    The kingdom, its Persian Gulf allies, Jordan and Egypt have been sending messages to Israel through various emissaries, including former British PM Tony Blair, the Israeli newspaper Arutz Sheva reported.

    https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2016/05/22/saudi-offers-to-change-stance-on-israel-report/

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    How do you explain this? Does it point to the intrinsic amoral nature of Saudis or does it mean that it is nothing but an (Saudi) adaptation to the post 2003 geo political realities brought nurtured realized by Israel?

    Is it the climaxing of Yoded Yinon's vision ?

    Are we seeing the replay of European theater ( of Israeli activities) ? In Europe over a period spanning few decades , Zionism gradually but slowly and inexorably prevented the basic tenet of democracy freedom rights to basic needs , freedom from torture ,occupation, from being applied to Palestine and corrupted the body politics ,infiltrated the media and the financial sectors . Is the Arab world being pushed slowly inexorably towards that fate?

    Without the control of America ,Zionist would not have been able to achieve this in EU
    Without pressure exerted on S Arab through America Zionism cant possibly achieve this either.
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  42. bunga says:
    @Art

    It seems that after creating the rift between West and Arab and between Islam and Christianity (modern day )the neoocns now want to appear as the champion of Islam to further Israeli interests.
     
    Saudi offers to change stance on Israel: Report

    Saudi Arabia and its allies have asked Israel to resume Middle East negotiations under new terms which include changes to Riyadh’s “peace” initiative, Israeli media reports say.

    The kingdom, its Persian Gulf allies, Jordan and Egypt have been sending messages to Israel through various emissaries, including former British PM Tony Blair, the Israeli newspaper Arutz Sheva reported.

    https://alethonews.wordpress.com/2016/05/22/saudi-offers-to-change-stance-on-israel-report/

    How do you explain this? Does it point to the intrinsic amoral nature of Saudis or does it mean that it is nothing but an (Saudi) adaptation to the post 2003 geo political realities brought nurtured realized by Israel?

    Is it the climaxing of Yoded Yinon’s vision ?

    Are we seeing the replay of European theater ( of Israeli activities) ? In Europe over a period spanning few decades , Zionism gradually but slowly and inexorably prevented the basic tenet of democracy freedom rights to basic needs , freedom from torture ,occupation, from being applied to Palestine and corrupted the body politics ,infiltrated the media and the financial sectors . Is the Arab world being pushed slowly inexorably towards that fate?

    Without the control of America ,Zionist would not have been able to achieve this in EU
    Without pressure exerted on S Arab through America Zionism cant possibly achieve this either.

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    I would posit the saudis are nervous about those 28 pages,and by sucking up to Zion,they hope to silence the expose,which I'm sure the Israelis wouldn't mind either.
    The collusion lately has been stunning.
    , @Art
    The Saudi royals are knee deep in the Western Jewish banking system – always have been. The Jews can tie them in knots whenever they want too.

    When you understand that fact – you can figure out what is really happening.

    p.s. I like your handle.

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  43. dahoit says:
    @rod1963
    Oh you can tell them. Problem is the MSM won't carry it. They've been peddling the same happy talk BS for decades as our economy is imploding and Wall Street blows ever more speculative bubbles.

    And yes the crash is coming. Still I'd rather have Trump at the helm than a war crazed Neo-Con maniac like Hillary whose foreign police expertise is a series of wrecked nations and bloody wars.

    At least he has some business savvy and knows finance. Hillary knows only how to swindle.

    Yes,the hell bitch is a psychopathic bubblehead.
    Trump is gonna win,yeah,hes takin over,c’mon!5 planks to one new world order,and the end of America as the Israeli Foreign Legion.hoo hah!
    You can bet the zionists don’t like it,one bit.

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  44. dahoit says:
    @bunga
    How do you explain this? Does it point to the intrinsic amoral nature of Saudis or does it mean that it is nothing but an (Saudi) adaptation to the post 2003 geo political realities brought nurtured realized by Israel?

    Is it the climaxing of Yoded Yinon's vision ?

    Are we seeing the replay of European theater ( of Israeli activities) ? In Europe over a period spanning few decades , Zionism gradually but slowly and inexorably prevented the basic tenet of democracy freedom rights to basic needs , freedom from torture ,occupation, from being applied to Palestine and corrupted the body politics ,infiltrated the media and the financial sectors . Is the Arab world being pushed slowly inexorably towards that fate?

    Without the control of America ,Zionist would not have been able to achieve this in EU
    Without pressure exerted on S Arab through America Zionism cant possibly achieve this either.

    I would posit the saudis are nervous about those 28 pages,and by sucking up to Zion,they hope to silence the expose,which I’m sure the Israelis wouldn’t mind either.
    The collusion lately has been stunning.

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  45. Art says:
    @bunga
    How do you explain this? Does it point to the intrinsic amoral nature of Saudis or does it mean that it is nothing but an (Saudi) adaptation to the post 2003 geo political realities brought nurtured realized by Israel?

    Is it the climaxing of Yoded Yinon's vision ?

    Are we seeing the replay of European theater ( of Israeli activities) ? In Europe over a period spanning few decades , Zionism gradually but slowly and inexorably prevented the basic tenet of democracy freedom rights to basic needs , freedom from torture ,occupation, from being applied to Palestine and corrupted the body politics ,infiltrated the media and the financial sectors . Is the Arab world being pushed slowly inexorably towards that fate?

    Without the control of America ,Zionist would not have been able to achieve this in EU
    Without pressure exerted on S Arab through America Zionism cant possibly achieve this either.

    The Saudi royals are knee deep in the Western Jewish banking system – always have been. The Jews can tie them in knots whenever they want too.

    When you understand that fact – you can figure out what is really happening.

    p.s. I like your handle.

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  46. mtn cur says:
    @Kiza
    Trump is looking for a solution regarding ISIS, any solution even a far fetched one. Unlike the hopeless Barry Bombama and Killary, who are both going through the motions of fighting ISIS, whilst arming and training fighters which later join ISIS. Oh, what a shocking surprise, they could have never thought something like that could happen, after the same thing happening only a hundred times already!

    Vietnamization doesn’t work in the desert any better than it did in Vietnam. At least the weapons we bought for China are not being used on us YET.

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  47. DaveE says:

    We’re faced with the same choice we faced in 2008. A known mobster, traitor and thug (McCain then, Clinton now) or a fresh face who might, just maybe, turn out to be loyal to The Humans.

    Didn’t work out that way, but hey, we can be forgiven for giving “him” and his husband a chance.

    Snake in a pants suit, or the wild card? One zero-hope scumbag, one maybe-might turn out OK.

    Not much of a choice, but only a zionist would hesitate.

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