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Here the long-awaited results. Pretty much as expected, with no major surprises. About 2/3rds Black, 1/4 White, 1/12th Asian. The only unexpected things are in my Asian ancestry. Apparently, contrary to what I have been told, I have no South Asian ancestry. Also, of my East Asian ancestry, half appears to be Southeast Asian, rather than Chinese. My Chinese component is relatively small.

Also, my paternal haplogroup is G-M342.

My maternal haplogroup is L2a-d.


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  1. Politics aside, I find this stuff interesting and appreciate you publishing such personal information.

    My 23andme and confirmed some of what we expected, but there were certainly surprises. Came back with appreciable Scandinavian and English genes, which was totally unexpected.

    Also came back with some Caucasus genes, which that particular company says appear in Azerbaijan, Turkey, Armenia, Georgia, Iran, Iraq, and Syria. My best friend now jokes that my “Chechen heritage” accounts for my occasionally less-than-placid personality (even though the company doesn’t mention Chechnya, Dagestan, or Ingushetia as part of its “Caucasus” grouping 😉

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    , @mudturtle
  2. Many thanks for that – I had wondered if you would do a 23andme test!

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Henry's Cat
  3. Good stuff! Very interesting…..

  4. @RadicalCenter

    I think 23andme is confused by DICh (Dagestan/Ingushetia/Chechnya) and classifies them as a strange Balkan/Middle Eastern/Broad Southern European melange.

    For instance, me (I’m 1/4 Lak, that’s Dagestan).

    Which OTOH is pretty strange, since contrary to my expectations, I recall Razib Khan telling me in a conversation that there is a lot of population genetics data from North Caucasians.

    • Replies: @AP
  5. JayMan needs to make sure his children marry Latinos to tick off all the boxes and become a progenitor of the coming cosmic race.

  6. J1234 says:

    Thanks for sharing your results. I’ve thought about doing one of the tests, but they’ve had some problem with accuracy, I’ve heard. This involved inconsistent results with different groups of identical triplets. When they get those issues addressed, I might take a test.

    • Replies: @sf
  7. @Jay Ritchie

    He didn’t need the test. He looks and knows he’s black. He might have thought the results would be all white. Wishful thinking and a waste of money.

  8. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Aren’t you Middle Eastern? Middle Easterners have black ancestry.

  9. Alliumnsk says:

    23andMe gives more than just ancestry (e.g. health prognosis), which might be useful too.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  10. @Jay Ritchie

    Never thank an exhibitionist. They don’t need the encouragement.

  11. Dutch Boy says:

    The only anomaly I found in my 23&me results was that I was 25% British/Irish (my Dutch and Norwegian ancestors would be surprised). The only thing I could figure was that I had some of my British/Irish wife’s spit in my mouth when I took the sample.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  12. AP says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    My wife is 1/8 Kalmyk, and the Asian features are obvious (all non-Asians ancestors have been blonde blue-eyed ethnic Poles or ethnic Russians, she has dark eyes and thick straight black “Asian” hair like her 1/4 Kalmyk father and his 1/2 Kalmyk farther), yet 23andme has her as 99.8% European, .2% Mongolian. 23andme probably considers Kalmyks and other obscure Eurasian peoples as Eastern European.

    • Agree: Anatoly Karlin
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  13. @attilathehen

    I’ve never had the fortune to see a full photo of Jayman let alone meet him but the limited pictures of his arm and children gave me the impression he was mixed race with some black ancestry. Of the West Indians I’ve got to know I think all those who – to me – looked entirely West African had significant admixture, particularly South Indian. I’d never have guessed before seeing family photos.

  14. @Dutch Boy

    Um, no, dude, the explanation is simply that you’re British and Irish.
    Swish with water and take another saliva test, and then you’ll have to admit it 😉

    From genetic tests, I was likewise surprised that this I likely have a little bit of British genes (5%) and 10% Scandinavian.

    Well, guess I’m just your “typical” Italian/Slavic/Swedish/Caucasian/English all-American White mutt 😉

  15. @AP

    Interesting, thank you.

    Realizing, of course, that her grandfather easily could have been much less than half Kalmyk or much more than half. As you probably know, we don’t necessarily inherit such predictable percentages of genes “proportionately” from each race or ethnicity.

    For example, my Mom’s genetic tests reported that she is more than 10% “Middle Eastern” (Arab / Sephardic Jew) and several percent Ashkenazi (aka “european Jewish”). But my tests showed 0-1% Middle Eastern and only 1% Ashkenazi Jewish. I apparently inherited a “disproportionately” high share of her Italian genes and almost none of her non-Italian genes.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  16. @RadicalCenter

    Hmm … I thought you pretty much have to get half from each parent, and that it is the grandparents’ genomes that can–and do–vary considerably.

    I mean, you get one half of each pair of 23 chromosomes from each parent, so each parent ought always to be 50% of your genome. But since your parents do not necessarily give you 50% of each of their parents’ genome–indeed, since 23 is not evenly divisible by 4, they cannot give you 50% of each of their parents’ genomes–you can end up with wildly disproportionate share any of your grandparents’ genomes.

    Perhaps unconscious awareness of this has something to do with why grandparents can sometimes take wildly disproportionate interests in different grandchildren.

    • Replies: @JayMan
  17. Pericles says:
    @Jim Christian

    So in this case they went a bit overboard?

  18. JayMan says: • Website
    @Almost Missouri

    Yup, you’re 50% related to each parent, but not 25% related to each grandparent (and not 12.5% related to each great grandparent and so on). Just the same, you’re not 50% related to each sibling.

  19. My test came back showing 99.7% Scotch/Irish . My family has been in America since the mid 1800’s and we were told by my Grandmothers when questioning them about our ethnic heritage that we were German and American Indian . We grew up eating scrumptious German cooking . We were also warned when inquiring about our ancestors to beware because we might find out some things we did not want to know . I am not really sure I trust the modern technologies but I do see the application in the end times scenario ie: Revelations 9

    • Replies: @Merry Tree
  20. danand says:

    Just a tidbit to add. My daughter sent saliva samples to both 23&me and The results, surprisingly, at least to me, where within .7% of each other.

    In addition, 23&me correctly suggested/identified many relatives out to third cousins.

  21. I seriously doubt these tests are in any way accurate.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  22. Notwithstanding small allowances for possible mixed-race pairings in your ancestry prior to roughly the Napoleonic era, and for consanguinity, the most parsimonious explanation would seem to be that of your 128 great-great-great-great-great grandparents, visibly 88 were African black, 30 NW European, 5 SE Asian and 5 Chinese.

  23. @attilathehen

    He didn’t need the test. He looks and knows he’s black. He might have thought the results would be all white. Wishful thinking and a waste of money.

    OTOH, I hear 23&Me likes to report POC heritage when there is none just to mess with people…

  24. Do they always clump British and Irish together? Can they separate that? My folks are from the West Coast of Ireland. I would be about 99.99 percent “British and Irish.” Duh.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  25. Hibernian says:
    @Father O'Hara

    Pity Ireland and the USA. Each cursed with a West Coast.

  26. anon[907] • Disclaimer says:

    I will try 23 and me as well as My Heritage and another site My Ancestry? to see how close they are to each other. I won’t smoke a cigarette before the tests. I’ll pay the bucks because my curiosity is high. That’s why I like Unz review and lots of its commenters.

  27. My father (deceased some 20 plus years) has a very common surname whose families are from Kerry and Cork but his father’s side may have fled to Cree (or also spelled Creagh in County Clare) a very long time ago. His mother was from Connemarra- area west of Maam Cross.

    My mother’s heritage is European (I gather?) but remains a mystery so I figure I’ll give it a go.

    Is the land cursed in the west or are we talking about liberals? The last thing my pop would ever be was a liberal. Little education but real smart.
    I never thought USA West Coast would turn out like it is. Do you think it is because too many East Coast flower power types and pseudo intellectuals moved there starting in the 60s?
    Thanks to all for comments. I learn a lot.
    I subscribed to The American Conservative when it first came out (I think it was 2002) when Buchanan was leading the fight to not invade Iraq . I didn’t know what role Ron Unz played until I read a recent article. It is a good thing there is a Ron Unz out West.

  28. Bruno says:

    I am 100% european (40% Spanish, 40% french, 5% basque, 5% Italian, 5% Irish, 3% Portuguese, 2% Sardinian) but my maternal DNA is found almost only among black people L2 like you. That’s fascinating !

    I look like Celtic (pale skin, red hair, thin lips, freakles etc)

    Looking in specialized site, they say I have a yet to be found haplogroup but the closest are
    L2a1c6. (African female heritage in Malta)
    L2a1c (n+1) (Bantu from south east to north west Africa )
    L2a1c4 (African heritage in Andalusia, my maternally origins are from there)

  29. Are you going to post your updated results, now that 23andme breaks down the results further into specific countries?

  30. sf says:

    I read a newspaper story about that. The results that the triplets got were within the claimed range of accuracy. Mine, for example, has 42% generic British isles, with a range of 9% to 72%. Based on family tree information, it would be 50%. It also showed 8% Scandinavian. I have no known Scandinavian ancestors. That is probably attributable to Viking raiders in the distant past.

    • Replies: @The scalpel
    , @Boo Radley
  31. Tsigantes says:

    Any test that puts ‘Middle Eastern’ and ‘North African’ as a category is not worth doing. In other words, they don’t bother with the genetic difference between [and among!] Egyptians, gulf Saudis and Persians. And any test that doesn’t single out Hungarians and Basques is also not worth doing.

    • Agree: RWS
  32. I just learned that you are Native American. To be precise, 0.8% Native American, but that’s enough to establish the truthfulness of my first sentence here.

    Which service is it worth using? 23andme, or some others? I know nothing about these, but maybe I’ll do such a test, too.

  33. The scalpel says: • Website

    A range of 9% to 72%?

    That is garbage.

  34. GregG says:

    My results came back as 1024th Elizabeth Warren.

    So I took a dump and went for a manicure and pedicure.

    Now I am pure again.

    • LOL: Bruce County
  35. mudturtle says:

    I had one of those things done and it showed that I was French, although I can go back more than four hundred years for English, Scots and some Danish.
    They told me that I am 20% Mozambican which was unknown to the forebears that settled in Virginia in the 1600’s
    I have as much southeast African genes as does Elizabeth Warren in Cherokee. Perhaps my children can get affirmative action crap when they “prove” their father’s heritage.

  36. @redmudhooch

    The tests from both major companies correctly identified my second cousins (and first cousins once removed, I.e. children of my first cousins) and third cousins.

    The two tests are also very largely consistent with one another.

  37. @Buckeyebob

    RE: American Indian Heritage

    Sounds like your grandmothers told you the same bogus story that Elizabeth Warren’s did.

  38. @sf

    My wife did a test and all known German, Scottish (British Isles) popped up with the unknown quality of 12% Scandinavian. Not very surprising since…well, history. Her reply was “But so much that nobody knows about?”
    I suggested that maybe Grandma was part of the welcoming committee that she wanted to keep on the down low.

    Wives have no sense of humor.

  39. Attention Fellow White-Privileged Americans: If you have Irish and British in your DNA, as I do (along with a bit of French, of course), you might be able to stand in front of Al Sharpton in the reparations line. In this “great” and “booming” economy, millions of white-privileged citizens have a better chance of qualifying for the reparations transfer payment than of snagging a full-time, non-temp job with rent-covering wages.

  40. Arioch says:

    > Here the long-awaited results

    this link is 404

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