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I’m going to go out on a limb here and argue that the campaign against Professor Amy Wax at U. Penn. (detailed here and here) may end up as a net plus for race realism.

Here’s my argument.

The original Wax-Alexander op-ed in the Philadelphia Inquirer [Paying the price for breakdown of the country’s bourgeois culture,August 9, 2017 ] was perfectly culturist, with not a hint of race realism. (Likewise, by the way, Heather Mac Donald’s defenses of it.) All the social outcomes under discussion were caused by culture, culture, culture — this wonderful all-explanatory thing called culture.

That didn’t do the authors a bit of good; they’re being called “bigots” and “white supremacists” anyway. If not for the fact that Prof. Wax is Jewish, I have no doubt she’d have been called a “Nazi” by now. Perhaps she has been and I just missed it.

After a couple more episodes like this, some other Amy Wax or Larry Alexander or Heather Mac Donald — some credentialed adult with access to mainstream outlets, perhaps one of those actual names — will figure he might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb, and serve the cause of Truth.

If you’re anyway going to be called a “white supremacist” and have your windows broken, you may as well drop the culturist flim-flam and go straight to race realism.

At this point everyone outside the crazy white left — the baizuo — everyone with half a brain knows that there are innate, intractable statistical differences between the races in behavior, intelligence, and personality: big differences between black Africans and the out-of-Africa races, smaller differences among those races.

Pretending not to know that is just a social courtesy practiced to avoid hurting the feelings of persons too dimwitted to grasp sophisticated statistical concepts like “average” and “variation.”

Or possibly, in the case of gentle souls like Prof. Wax and Ms. Mac Donald (I’ve had no personal acquaintance with Prof. Alexander), it’s a case of knowing but not knowing that you know. This is a phenomenon familiar to anyone acquainted with neuroscience: google “blindsight.”

Persons with blindsight can see things, but don’t know that they’re seeing them. They can navigate across a room, avoiding the furniture; but if you ask them, they’ll tell you they can’t see a thing. Their eyes are working and getting data to the motor control centers of the brain, but it’s not being passed on to the conscious executive centers.

Whatever: If the social price of race realism is no higher than the price for mild culturism like that of Wax and Alexander — if every position not straight-ticket Cultural Marxism is Nazi — well, heck, you may as well say out loud what every sane person knows, at some level, to be true.

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Sooner or later all this careful culturist side-stepping, and this see-no-biology, hear-no-biology, speak-no-biology in commentary on social issues — sooner or later someone of authority and status is going to say the hell with it, let’s talk honestly about the race differences we all know are contributing to some of our social problems.

Professor Wax, in fact, with her background in microbiology and neuroscience, might just be the person to do it.

(Republished from VDare.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. One can dare to dream, but I wouldn’t make book on it. As you well know from personal experience, heterodoxy within the academic and public intellectual spheres is strictly prescribed. The long march through the institutions is complete. Barring something catastrophic, most people’s subconscious cost benefit analysis leads them to silence or eliding. Even those academics with tenure realize that the value thereof is greatly diminished when your friends and the administration abandon you, you are no longer able to get published in the mainstream media or journals, your reputation is trashed and you are protested out of the classroom and off the lecture circuit.

    There will always be a few exceptions and perhaps there is some hope that one or two of those exceptions will be exceedingly exceptional to such an extent that they can exert a large influence on the population at large and inspire others to speak up; however, I would still think twice before betting my career on it.

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  2. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    We are but fleas on the shoulders of titans; mere observers betwixt the battle between Jewish giants.

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    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Actually, in the current environment, I suspect that this is mostly true.

    If Jews don't completely control the commanding heights of our society, they are hugely important players, and they fight . . . hard.

    Until things get a lot worse on the ground, i.e. upper middle-class whites simply can't afford to turn a blind eye, how far all of this goes, I suspect, will largely be determined by influential Jews. If they continue to believe that Invade the World/Invite the World/We're all the same is "Good for the Jews,"
    it'll continue. If they start to see diminishing marginal returns or fear that a heavily Muslim Europe and/or a Brazil-like United States isn't Good for the Jews, we'll miraculously learn from our betters that borders are good thing and that everyone knows that genes play a major role in outcomes.

    There's no Jewish conspiracy. Just a lots of wealthy and influential Jews who think the same way and use their influence to push that agenda. Given that whites seem particularly vulnerable when it comes to debates about genetics and nationalism due to our history and the Enlightenment philosophy, we just let the most forceful elements - in this case, Jews - lead.

    How long that will last is hard to say, though South Africa suggests that whites will following that lead to the grave if necessary.

    So the ball in the Jewish court for now.
  3. Jason Liu says:

    I’d wager the average baizuo DOES suspect racial differences, or they wouldn’t act the way they do. Their over-the-top denial and extremism is exactly what you’d expect when childhood indoctrination meets reality. It’s like they’re defending their own sanctity of mind from cognitive dissonance.

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    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    I’d wager the average baizuo DOES suspect racial differences, or they wouldn’t act the way they do.
     
    Thank you for teaching me a new loan word from China, baizuo. Now I can use it to point a finger at the baizuo who are helping my country commit demographic suicide -- at the same time that it is selling its productive and financial soul to China. How appropriate that now we can even get our words from the Communist mainland; at least we're not paying for them.

    The baizuo were indoctrinated to hate our middle class, bourgeois culture as well as our white, gentile race. Therefore, they will react harshly to any serious argument for either. To them there is no difference. That is why they jerked their knees and called Wax and Alexander racist scum. Our culture comes at least in part from our race. That is what they know but won't admit to themselves.

    Yes, it must be some form of cognitive dissonance, but not only with regard to race. The baizuo know damn well that their groceries, shelter, clean water, freedom and health are the products of hard-working generations of bourgeoisie. They might even have been assigned, at some point in their liberal arts careers, to read Max Weber's The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    From what you wrote, Jason, it sounds like these baizuo may have the blindsight syndrome that Mr. Derbyshire postulates as possible in the 2 writers he mentioned. It is possible these cntlr-left baizuo have forced their awareness of race realities, along with a whole host of other realities, into their subconscious minds.

    Imagine a cntrl-left baizuo, call him George. As George becomes active in modern politics through the years at his indoctrination centers schools and the university, the subconscious (truthful) mind and the conscious (PC/lyin-sack-o-shit) mind are forced to do battle. Truthful George and Politically Correct George should not have ever been together in one place to begin with inside one head. Therefore when this happens, let me tell you, worlds collide, baby!
  4. Persons with blindsight can see things, but don’t know that they’re seeing them. They can navigate across a room, avoiding the furniture; but if you ask them, they’ll tell you they can’t see a thing. Their eyes are working and getting data to the motor control centers of the brain, but it’s not being passed on to the conscious executive centers.

    Those of us who work in offices know this all too well, in its conscious form. I continually force it upon myself, because I’m (I’ll admit it) terrified that I’ll inadvertently blurt out something true during a meeting or a hallway conversation. I already suspect that many of my colleagues think I don’t show as much diversity zeal as I ought.

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    • Replies: @WorkingClass
    My dear Mr. Westwood:

    Run! Save yourself!

    You will be found out. Seek a position, however humble, that allows you to be a whole man.
  5. @Anonymous
    We are but fleas on the shoulders of titans; mere observers betwixt the battle between Jewish giants.

    Actually, in the current environment, I suspect that this is mostly true.

    If Jews don’t completely control the commanding heights of our society, they are hugely important players, and they fight . . . hard.

    Until things get a lot worse on the ground, i.e. upper middle-class whites simply can’t afford to turn a blind eye, how far all of this goes, I suspect, will largely be determined by influential Jews. If they continue to believe that Invade the World/Invite the World/We’re all the same is “Good for the Jews,”
    it’ll continue. If they start to see diminishing marginal returns or fear that a heavily Muslim Europe and/or a Brazil-like United States isn’t Good for the Jews, we’ll miraculously learn from our betters that borders are good thing and that everyone knows that genes play a major role in outcomes.

    There’s no Jewish conspiracy. Just a lots of wealthy and influential Jews who think the same way and use their influence to push that agenda. Given that whites seem particularly vulnerable when it comes to debates about genetics and nationalism due to our history and the Enlightenment philosophy, we just let the most forceful elements – in this case, Jews – lead.

    How long that will last is hard to say, though South Africa suggests that whites will following that lead to the grave if necessary.

    So the ball in the Jewish court for now.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    Overstated a bit, but that is all correct.

    The partial immunity Jews have from being called racists/Nazis gives them a special obligation to use this power for good, to protect the Anglosphere nations that have been their home and protectors for so long. (NE Asians too. They came here to enjoy the fruits of a society built by whites, and are morally obligated to defend it, and they have an even stronger immunity than white Jews).

    It is hard to say how partial the immunity Jews get is. Certainly Miller and Wax get a lot of hate and are labeled racists. So did the Evergreen State biology professor who criticized and refused to join the "Day Whites are Banned from Campus." And worse still, refused to back down in the face of SJW threats, showing them to be impotent against men with backbone.

    Blacks and Muslims certainly hate right-wing Jews and are not shy about it. However, non-Jewish SJW whites are still the biggest single group on the left, and I do think they are reluctant to viciously attack a careful, well-informed Jewish race realist compared to a Charles Murray.
    , @Corvinus
    "If Jews don’t completely control the commanding heights of our society, they are hugely important players, and they fight . . . hard."

    Per usual, you overstate and overvalue Jewish influence on American culture.

    "Until things get a lot worse on the ground, i.e. upper middle-class whites simply can’t afford to turn a blind eye, how far all of this goes, I suspect, will largely be determined by influential Jews."

    Upper middle-class whites indeed turn a blind eye to the Jewish conspiracy theories. They lead their own lives and make their own decisions.

    "If they continue to believe that Invade the World/Invite the World/We’re all the same is “Good for the Jews,” it’ll continue. If they start to see diminishing marginal returns or fear that a heavily Muslim Europe and/or a Brazil-like United States isn’t Good for the Jews, we’ll miraculously learn from our betters that borders are good thing and that everyone knows that genes play a major role in outcomes."

    You argue from a false premise, assuming that white people have been hopelessly diverted from seeing the actual truth, until one day when a financial maelstrom engulfs them, and lo and behold, we normies bear witness to the huffing and puffing of our "Jewish masters", become enraged like Popeye eating his spinach to gain superhuman strength, and begin to go all Saxon on their asses.

    Praytell, who are these "betters" you speak of? And, as people know, the debate rages on regarding whether genes, or environment, are responsible for a number of societal phenomenon.

    "Just a lots of wealthy and influential Jews who think the same way and use their influence to push that agenda."

    Let us assume, for fun, that you are right. What are you doing to stop their menace other than commenting on a blog? If you know this "truth", is it not your responsibility to take action to benefit your fellow whites?

    "Given that whites seem particularly vulnerable when it comes to debates about genetics and nationalism due to our history and the Enlightenment philosophy, we just let the most forceful elements – in this case, Jews – lead."

    Or, more reasonably, whites generally make up their own minds when it comes these two topics, and lead themselves, which makes people like yourself shake their collective heads in disgust that they are exercising their liberty politically and socially. You seem to be of the mindset that white people in general are easily duped, but somehow you have the antibodies against Jewish machinations.

  6. @Jason Liu
    I'd wager the average baizuo DOES suspect racial differences, or they wouldn't act the way they do. Their over-the-top denial and extremism is exactly what you'd expect when childhood indoctrination meets reality. It's like they're defending their own sanctity of mind from cognitive dissonance.

    I’d wager the average baizuo DOES suspect racial differences, or they wouldn’t act the way they do.

    Thank you for teaching me a new loan word from China, baizuo. Now I can use it to point a finger at the baizuo who are helping my country commit demographic suicide — at the same time that it is selling its productive and financial soul to China. How appropriate that now we can even get our words from the Communist mainland; at least we’re not paying for them.

    The baizuo were indoctrinated to hate our middle class, bourgeois culture as well as our white, gentile race. Therefore, they will react harshly to any serious argument for either. To them there is no difference. That is why they jerked their knees and called Wax and Alexander racist scum. Our culture comes at least in part from our race. That is what they know but won’t admit to themselves.

    Yes, it must be some form of cognitive dissonance, but not only with regard to race. The baizuo know damn well that their groceries, shelter, clean water, freedom and health are the products of hard-working generations of bourgeoisie. They might even have been assigned, at some point in their liberal arts careers, to read Max Weber’s The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.

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  7. @Jason Liu
    I'd wager the average baizuo DOES suspect racial differences, or they wouldn't act the way they do. Their over-the-top denial and extremism is exactly what you'd expect when childhood indoctrination meets reality. It's like they're defending their own sanctity of mind from cognitive dissonance.

    From what you wrote, Jason, it sounds like these baizuo may have the blindsight syndrome that Mr. Derbyshire postulates as possible in the 2 writers he mentioned. It is possible these cntlr-left baizuo have forced their awareness of race realities, along with a whole host of other realities, into their subconscious minds.

    Imagine a cntrl-left baizuo, call him George. As George becomes active in modern politics through the years at his indoctrination centers schools and the university, the subconscious (truthful) mind and the conscious (PC/lyin-sack-o-shit) mind are forced to do battle. Truthful George and Politically Correct George should not have ever been together in one place to begin with inside one head. Therefore when this happens, let me tell you, worlds collide, baby!

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  8. … and another thing – this is the first time I’ve seen the term baizuo. I clicked on that link, and even though the writer defines the term very thoroughly, though very hard I’m sure to translate directly, he sounds like a baizuo himself.

    I may use this term myself, along with cntrl-left, to help pull in the Chinese eyeballs off the internet tubes. I don’t care really, round eyeballs, slanted eyeballs, hairy eyeballs, it’s all good. C’mon guys, it’s so simple. Maybe you need a refresher course? It’s all search-engine optimization nowadays!

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    In Chinese, baizuo heavily hints of "idiot"(白痴) so the humor is reinforced.
  9. @Achmed E. Newman
    ... and another thing - this is the first time I've seen the term baizuo. I clicked on that link, and even though the writer defines the term very thoroughly, though very hard I'm sure to translate directly, he sounds like a baizuo himself.

    I may use this term myself, along with cntrl-left, to help pull in the Chinese eyeballs off the internet tubes. I don't care really, round eyeballs, slanted eyeballs, hairy eyeballs, it's all good. C'mon guys, it's so simple. Maybe you need a refresher course? It's all search-engine optimization nowadays!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm30l8sqlQw

    In Chinese, baizuo heavily hints of “idiot”(白痴) so the humor is reinforced.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Thanks, Daniel for the info. I know direct translation is impossible. How would you write the equivalent of "useful idiot", in Pin Yin, I mean?
    , @Coemgen
    Can you give the appropriate (Mandarin) tones for baizuo?
  10. Maoism remains ascendant Derb. Academia, media and corporate culture are firmly in its grip. Worse, Maoism props up rabid imperialism in Washington and New York. Maoism’s foot soldiers honestly believe that there is no such thing as boys and girls, that everything would be fine if there were no white people and that truth is hate. They view reason as a white thing. It really pisses them off. Maoist’s are zombies Derb and must be dealt with as such if you are to avoid re-education.

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  11. @Clark Westwood

    Persons with blindsight can see things, but don’t know that they’re seeing them. They can navigate across a room, avoiding the furniture; but if you ask them, they’ll tell you they can’t see a thing. Their eyes are working and getting data to the motor control centers of the brain, but it’s not being passed on to the conscious executive centers.
     
    Those of us who work in offices know this all too well, in its conscious form. I continually force it upon myself, because I'm (I'll admit it) terrified that I'll inadvertently blurt out something true during a meeting or a hallway conversation. I already suspect that many of my colleagues think I don't show as much diversity zeal as I ought.

    My dear Mr. Westwood:

    Run! Save yourself!

    You will be found out. Seek a position, however humble, that allows you to be a whole man.

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  12. @Daniel Chieh
    In Chinese, baizuo heavily hints of "idiot"(白痴) so the humor is reinforced.

    Thanks, Daniel for the info. I know direct translation is impossible. How would you write the equivalent of “useful idiot”, in Pin Yin, I mean?

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Most typically: zǒugǒu (走狗) or "lapdog" to express someone who is a foolish toady or collaborator, who is used and later discarded. Literal translation is: "walking dog", presumably obediently to others.
  13. Lot says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Actually, in the current environment, I suspect that this is mostly true.

    If Jews don't completely control the commanding heights of our society, they are hugely important players, and they fight . . . hard.

    Until things get a lot worse on the ground, i.e. upper middle-class whites simply can't afford to turn a blind eye, how far all of this goes, I suspect, will largely be determined by influential Jews. If they continue to believe that Invade the World/Invite the World/We're all the same is "Good for the Jews,"
    it'll continue. If they start to see diminishing marginal returns or fear that a heavily Muslim Europe and/or a Brazil-like United States isn't Good for the Jews, we'll miraculously learn from our betters that borders are good thing and that everyone knows that genes play a major role in outcomes.

    There's no Jewish conspiracy. Just a lots of wealthy and influential Jews who think the same way and use their influence to push that agenda. Given that whites seem particularly vulnerable when it comes to debates about genetics and nationalism due to our history and the Enlightenment philosophy, we just let the most forceful elements - in this case, Jews - lead.

    How long that will last is hard to say, though South Africa suggests that whites will following that lead to the grave if necessary.

    So the ball in the Jewish court for now.

    Overstated a bit, but that is all correct.

    The partial immunity Jews have from being called racists/Nazis gives them a special obligation to use this power for good, to protect the Anglosphere nations that have been their home and protectors for so long. (NE Asians too. They came here to enjoy the fruits of a society built by whites, and are morally obligated to defend it, and they have an even stronger immunity than white Jews).

    It is hard to say how partial the immunity Jews get is. Certainly Miller and Wax get a lot of hate and are labeled racists. So did the Evergreen State biology professor who criticized and refused to join the “Day Whites are Banned from Campus.” And worse still, refused to back down in the face of SJW threats, showing them to be impotent against men with backbone.

    Blacks and Muslims certainly hate right-wing Jews and are not shy about it. However, non-Jewish SJW whites are still the biggest single group on the left, and I do think they are reluctant to viciously attack a careful, well-informed Jewish race realist compared to a Charles Murray.

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    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Well, that's the real question isn't it: If (influential) Jews fail in their efforts to be considered an honorary People of Color, will they - and rank-and-file Jews - change their tune?

    Personally, I think that Jews have zero chance of being accepted by ordinary blacks and Hispanics as non-whites. However, wealthy Jews and Jewish groups can certainly get the Jessie Jacksons and Al Sharptons to say that Jews are part of the coalition of the fringes. But, of course, saying it doesn't make it so.

    Much like the overwhelmingly white (and very heavily Jewish) Democratic leadership is discovering, blacks, Hispanics, Indians, Asians and Muslims will not accept white women and Jews as one of them and will demand that true PoCs be put in the positions of power and their issues be put forward.

    Jews will certainly have enough power to keep the U.S. government (even one with a lot of PoC in leadership positions) backing anything and everything Israel. (Cut off the funding and BDS falls apart as a real force.) But domestically, Jews will come under the same fire as whites, because, you know, Jews are pretty damn white.

    (It's why non-Jewish whites of my generation at least accepted Jews as one of their own and why blacks and other PoC will never accept Jews. Jews look white. They act white. They live with whites. They play with whites. They marry whites. Hell, Ashkenazi Jews act more white than most whites.)

    At some point, you have to believe that Jews will realize that they're not going to treated as non-whites and will decide to join forces with the only group that they can - non-Jewish whites. Well, that or move to Israel.
    , @iffen
    a special obligation

    Could you leave off with the chosen/special constructions? It grates after a while.
  14. @Achmed E. Newman
    Thanks, Daniel for the info. I know direct translation is impossible. How would you write the equivalent of "useful idiot", in Pin Yin, I mean?

    Most typically: zǒugǒu (走狗) or “lapdog” to express someone who is a foolish toady or collaborator, who is used and later discarded. Literal translation is: “walking dog”, presumably obediently to others.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Thanks, Dan.
    , @Anon
    That explains the "running dog" which used to puzzle us so.
  15. That pic of 1952 cinemagoers doesn’t half get thrashed to death: http://aphelis.net/cover-debord-society-spectacle is where geezers like me remember it from. Perhaps Joe Patrick and the rest ought to have a read of it someday.
    Six dollars at Wally’s, o i am laffin. No wonder he topped himself.

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    The modern version starring Mr. Zuckerberg walking down the aisle in control mode also ain't bad.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/all-the-ways-people-freaked-out-about-this-insane-zuckerberg-vr-photo/
  16. @Lot
    Overstated a bit, but that is all correct.

    The partial immunity Jews have from being called racists/Nazis gives them a special obligation to use this power for good, to protect the Anglosphere nations that have been their home and protectors for so long. (NE Asians too. They came here to enjoy the fruits of a society built by whites, and are morally obligated to defend it, and they have an even stronger immunity than white Jews).

    It is hard to say how partial the immunity Jews get is. Certainly Miller and Wax get a lot of hate and are labeled racists. So did the Evergreen State biology professor who criticized and refused to join the "Day Whites are Banned from Campus." And worse still, refused to back down in the face of SJW threats, showing them to be impotent against men with backbone.

    Blacks and Muslims certainly hate right-wing Jews and are not shy about it. However, non-Jewish SJW whites are still the biggest single group on the left, and I do think they are reluctant to viciously attack a careful, well-informed Jewish race realist compared to a Charles Murray.

    Well, that’s the real question isn’t it: If (influential) Jews fail in their efforts to be considered an honorary People of Color, will they – and rank-and-file Jews – change their tune?

    Personally, I think that Jews have zero chance of being accepted by ordinary blacks and Hispanics as non-whites. However, wealthy Jews and Jewish groups can certainly get the Jessie Jacksons and Al Sharptons to say that Jews are part of the coalition of the fringes. But, of course, saying it doesn’t make it so.

    Much like the overwhelmingly white (and very heavily Jewish) Democratic leadership is discovering, blacks, Hispanics, Indians, Asians and Muslims will not accept white women and Jews as one of them and will demand that true PoCs be put in the positions of power and their issues be put forward.

    Jews will certainly have enough power to keep the U.S. government (even one with a lot of PoC in leadership positions) backing anything and everything Israel. (Cut off the funding and BDS falls apart as a real force.) But domestically, Jews will come under the same fire as whites, because, you know, Jews are pretty damn white.

    (It’s why non-Jewish whites of my generation at least accepted Jews as one of their own and why blacks and other PoC will never accept Jews. Jews look white. They act white. They live with whites. They play with whites. They marry whites. Hell, Ashkenazi Jews act more white than most whites.)

    At some point, you have to believe that Jews will realize that they’re not going to treated as non-whites and will decide to join forces with the only group that they can – non-Jewish whites. Well, that or move to Israel.

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    • Replies: @Lot

    At some point, you have to believe that Jews will realize that they’re not going to treated as non-whites and will decide to join forces with the only group that they can – non-Jewish whites. Well, that or move to Israel.
     
    Full Jews, aside from the ultra-orthodox and hasids, are an elderly and low fertility group.

    With two generations of 50%+ intermarriage rates, Jews have already effectively mostly joined forces with whites. And a lot of the remainder are the religious ones who already vote GOP.

    So it is not a matter of changing minds, which is hard to do in elderly people, but waiting for the rapidly approaching demographic end of the secular Ashkenazi Jew. Already this group, as a share of the white population, has probably gone from ~3.5% to 1%, and as a share of new white births is lower still, maybe even 0.5%.

    Of the people with kids on my facebook, I'd say half jew kids outnumber full jews about 8 to 1.
  17. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Actually, in the current environment, I suspect that this is mostly true.

    If Jews don't completely control the commanding heights of our society, they are hugely important players, and they fight . . . hard.

    Until things get a lot worse on the ground, i.e. upper middle-class whites simply can't afford to turn a blind eye, how far all of this goes, I suspect, will largely be determined by influential Jews. If they continue to believe that Invade the World/Invite the World/We're all the same is "Good for the Jews,"
    it'll continue. If they start to see diminishing marginal returns or fear that a heavily Muslim Europe and/or a Brazil-like United States isn't Good for the Jews, we'll miraculously learn from our betters that borders are good thing and that everyone knows that genes play a major role in outcomes.

    There's no Jewish conspiracy. Just a lots of wealthy and influential Jews who think the same way and use their influence to push that agenda. Given that whites seem particularly vulnerable when it comes to debates about genetics and nationalism due to our history and the Enlightenment philosophy, we just let the most forceful elements - in this case, Jews - lead.

    How long that will last is hard to say, though South Africa suggests that whites will following that lead to the grave if necessary.

    So the ball in the Jewish court for now.

    “If Jews don’t completely control the commanding heights of our society, they are hugely important players, and they fight . . . hard.”

    Per usual, you overstate and overvalue Jewish influence on American culture.

    “Until things get a lot worse on the ground, i.e. upper middle-class whites simply can’t afford to turn a blind eye, how far all of this goes, I suspect, will largely be determined by influential Jews.”

    Upper middle-class whites indeed turn a blind eye to the Jewish conspiracy theories. They lead their own lives and make their own decisions.

    “If they continue to believe that Invade the World/Invite the World/We’re all the same is “Good for the Jews,” it’ll continue. If they start to see diminishing marginal returns or fear that a heavily Muslim Europe and/or a Brazil-like United States isn’t Good for the Jews, we’ll miraculously learn from our betters that borders are good thing and that everyone knows that genes play a major role in outcomes.”

    You argue from a false premise, assuming that white people have been hopelessly diverted from seeing the actual truth, until one day when a financial maelstrom engulfs them, and lo and behold, we normies bear witness to the huffing and puffing of our “Jewish masters”, become enraged like Popeye eating his spinach to gain superhuman strength, and begin to go all Saxon on their asses.

    Praytell, who are these “betters” you speak of? And, as people know, the debate rages on regarding whether genes, or environment, are responsible for a number of societal phenomenon.

    “Just a lots of wealthy and influential Jews who think the same way and use their influence to push that agenda.”

    Let us assume, for fun, that you are right. What are you doing to stop their menace other than commenting on a blog? If you know this “truth”, is it not your responsibility to take action to benefit your fellow whites?

    “Given that whites seem particularly vulnerable when it comes to debates about genetics and nationalism due to our history and the Enlightenment philosophy, we just let the most forceful elements – in this case, Jews – lead.”

    Or, more reasonably, whites generally make up their own minds when it comes these two topics, and lead themselves, which makes people like yourself shake their collective heads in disgust that they are exercising their liberty politically and socially. You seem to be of the mindset that white people in general are easily duped, but somehow you have the antibodies against Jewish machinations.

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    Per usual, you overstate and overvalue Jewish influence on American culture.
     
    How would YOU characterize that influence? Of no consequence whatsoever? When a group that makes up about 2% of America's population (self-identified) constitutes about 5% of the House of Representatives, 9% of the U.S. Senate, 33% of the Supreme Court, is that of no consequence? The fact that all of the existing major film studios were founded by (and still largely controlled by) Jews - that has no impact on American society? Every Fed Chairman for the last thirty years - not important?

    Praytell, who are these “betters” you speak of?
     
    Certainly not you. You are nobody's "better".
  18. unit472 says:

    Unfortunately negroes are a lot like tattoos. Easy enough to get but damned hard to get rid of. Even if a new consensus was reached that the negro was a problem and an economic drain on society and it was scientifically provable that the cause was genetic would we be able to do anything different than today? Certainly the negro would resist surrendering his racial privilege and sinking into irrelevance and who would have the stomach to say ‘no more’?

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  19. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “Per usual, you overstate and overvalue Jewish influence on American culture. ”

    Does he? Let’s see:

    ‘Who runs Hollywood? C’mon’

    “I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe “the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews,” down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.

    How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah.”

    – Joel Stein. LA Times, 2008

    “Upper middle-class whites indeed turn a blind eye to the Jewish conspiracy theories. They lead their own lives and make their own decisions.”

    Sure. The middle-class make their own decisions. It’s not like other people are making decisions for them:

    ‘A Study in Plutocracy: Rich Americans Wield Political Influence, the Rest of Us Don’t’

    “The analysts found that when controlling for the power of economic elites and organized interest groups, the influence of ordinary Americans registers at a “non-significant, near-zero level.” The analysts further discovered that rich individuals and business-dominated interest groups dominate the policymaking process. The mass-based interest groups had minimal influence compared to the business-based interest groups.”

    http://billmoyers.com/2014/08/14/a-study-in-plutocracy-rich-americans-wield-political-influence-the-rest-of-us-dont/

    “And, as people know, the debate rages on regarding whether genes, or environment, are responsible for a number of societal phenomenon.”

    An appeal to ignorance. The raging debate that you reference is akin to the current debate between young earth creationists and evolutionary biologists. Both sides argue, but only one side has the weight of the evidence. And it’s not “whether.” That part has already been solved, being backed up by enormous amounts of evidence. It’s really now a question of “how much” genetics influence societal phenomenon (ex: intelligence, academic achievement). That “how much” has been answered with a “potentially very much.”

    ‘The heritability of intelligence increases from about 20% in infancy to perhaps 80% in later adulthood.’

    https://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v20/n1/full/mp2014105a.html?foxtrotcallback=true

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  20. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “You seem to be of the mindset that white people in general are easily duped, but somehow you have the antibodies against Jewish machinations.”

    Appeal to popular opinion fallacy. That’s not really the rebuttal you think it is. There have been numerous times when the overwhelming majority of the public was tricked into believing something that was obviously wrong. Only 22% of Americans disapproved of the Iraq war in early March. But guess what? That 1/5th of the population was right.

    ‘Decision to Use Military Force in Iraq’

    March, 2003

    72% Right Decision

    22% Wrong Decision

    http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/03/19/public-attitudes-toward-the-war-in-iraq-20032008/

    So, yes. The masses are indeed easily duped. That explains a lot of what is wrong with this world.

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    There have been numerous times when the overwhelming majority of the public was tricked into believing something that was obviously wrong. Only 22% of Americans disapproved of the Iraq war in early March. But guess what? That 1/5th of the population was right.

    ‘Decision to Use Military Force in Iraq’
    March, 2003

    72% Right Decision
    22% Wrong Decision

    http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/03/19/public-attitudes-toward-the-war-in-iraq-20032008/

    So, yes. The masses are indeed easily duped. That explains a lot of what is wrong with this world.
     
    That's a good point - the public have this residual belief that the media works the same way as a town hall debate, with differing opinions and an emerging consensus - with the media encouraging them in this "Fair and Balanced" belief.

    In reality it's pure propaganda with a Neocon " Isreal First" agenda, so the public may think that they are making "informed decisions" when in fact they aren't.
  21. @Daniel Chieh
    Most typically: zǒugǒu (走狗) or "lapdog" to express someone who is a foolish toady or collaborator, who is used and later discarded. Literal translation is: "walking dog", presumably obediently to others.

    Thanks, Dan.

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  22. joef says:

    Any spoken truth re: race relations, with afro americans, is relentlessly attacked by the MSM and academia, so I do not hold much hope in a productive outcome from this. One of the main obstacles to honest dialogue is that leftist frequently attack how we feel about afros. This purposely evades the question through distraction, because it does not matter how we feel about afros, instead it matters how they feel about us.

    Afros randomly hate whitey through their own self initiated desire to do so. Realist are leery of afros through bad personal experience, not from an arbitrary decision. If the majority of afros behaved in a civilized manner towards their countrymen then there would be no negative opinions of afros. It is through afro bad behavior that realist formulate their realistic opinions (the opinion is based on empirical reality).

    And the worst of it is that afros kill more of their countrymen than any other category/group of people (including terrorist). Despite the leftist demand that we ignore this fact it doesn’t make it any less true. Leftist will continue to irresponsibly push afros into more white hating behavior, and politicians will continue to exchange entitlements for votes. Realistically there will be no reversal of these actions, which cannot last forever. At some point this will not be able to continue from the economics alone.

    The leftist are amazed that they have not obtained complete submission on whats
    allowable opinion on afros. They are ignoring the trigger points to dissent which are underemployment, credit bubble reaching its limits (soon credit cards will not be available to supplement monthly income for the underemployed), ever higher taxes to pay for the failing entitlement state (while other city/state/federal govt services are drastically reduced), while being constantly accused of being racist by limo liberal white elites (so they can feel better about themselves).

    Once the discontent reaches intolerable levels, the non afro citizen will start to lose a vested interest in this nation’s future. On the other side of it, afros will not understand when the entitlement state starts to fail, because of the endless free lunch political promises recieved for the last 50 years. When the free lunch ends the chronic riots, rapes, arson, and looting begins. Make your own conclusion where this is headed (can anyone say failed state, or feral cities), but remember that your foresight, and rational self interest, may be punished by polite company who prefer not to think about it.

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    Black crime and, in particular, interracial violence is the negro modus operandi. It is economic extortion to preserve the negro share of an economic pie he contributes nothing to the production of.

    It is simply blacks saying to the rest of America "Nice country you've got here, be a shame if something happened to it". Thus boondoggles like Head Start or Affirmative Action escape all oversight as to efficacy because to do otherwise would greatly increase black crime and violence.

    Of course the money is running out so choices are going to have to be made. Unpalatable choices. Public schools or public pensions? Welfare or police and fire protection? Medicaid for hoodrats or Medicare for seniors?
  23. Lot says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Well, that's the real question isn't it: If (influential) Jews fail in their efforts to be considered an honorary People of Color, will they - and rank-and-file Jews - change their tune?

    Personally, I think that Jews have zero chance of being accepted by ordinary blacks and Hispanics as non-whites. However, wealthy Jews and Jewish groups can certainly get the Jessie Jacksons and Al Sharptons to say that Jews are part of the coalition of the fringes. But, of course, saying it doesn't make it so.

    Much like the overwhelmingly white (and very heavily Jewish) Democratic leadership is discovering, blacks, Hispanics, Indians, Asians and Muslims will not accept white women and Jews as one of them and will demand that true PoCs be put in the positions of power and their issues be put forward.

    Jews will certainly have enough power to keep the U.S. government (even one with a lot of PoC in leadership positions) backing anything and everything Israel. (Cut off the funding and BDS falls apart as a real force.) But domestically, Jews will come under the same fire as whites, because, you know, Jews are pretty damn white.

    (It's why non-Jewish whites of my generation at least accepted Jews as one of their own and why blacks and other PoC will never accept Jews. Jews look white. They act white. They live with whites. They play with whites. They marry whites. Hell, Ashkenazi Jews act more white than most whites.)

    At some point, you have to believe that Jews will realize that they're not going to treated as non-whites and will decide to join forces with the only group that they can - non-Jewish whites. Well, that or move to Israel.

    At some point, you have to believe that Jews will realize that they’re not going to treated as non-whites and will decide to join forces with the only group that they can – non-Jewish whites. Well, that or move to Israel.

    Full Jews, aside from the ultra-orthodox and hasids, are an elderly and low fertility group.

    With two generations of 50%+ intermarriage rates, Jews have already effectively mostly joined forces with whites. And a lot of the remainder are the religious ones who already vote GOP.

    So it is not a matter of changing minds, which is hard to do in elderly people, but waiting for the rapidly approaching demographic end of the secular Ashkenazi Jew. Already this group, as a share of the white population, has probably gone from ~3.5% to 1%, and as a share of new white births is lower still, maybe even 0.5%.

    Of the people with kids on my facebook, I’d say half jew kids outnumber full jews about 8 to 1.

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    Yeah, I certainly see that in my own world - and even almost my own life! Secular and even mildly religious Jews inter-marry at huge rates, which only sounds high if you don't see their lives. Even if a Jew grows up in a heavily Jewish area (not typically the case), they're still going to high schools that are majority non-Jewish. They have a lot of non-Jewish friends.

    Then, it's off to college and then after college where Jews literally surrounded by other non-Jewish whites, all of whom are, well, the same as they are. Unless a Jew has a very strong desire to marry another Jew, the odds are overwhelming that they will marry a non-Jew, which is what happens.

    This fact alone should tell Jews something.

    Regarding the older generation, I suspect that you're right because I see a similar thing with old whites (Jews and non-Jews alike). They're a bit like our own flake Corvinus. "We're equal all equal . . ." "I don't see color . . ." etc., etc.

    They grew up in a white country where you could afford to think that way and now live in neighborhoods where they aren't faced with the reality that other groups are tribal. For the older generation, it's just distasteful to even think about such things.

    I was talking with my father-in-law the other day about race issues and he said the usual boilerplate. He even mentioned that when he was a manager, he would always "hire the best guy for the job whatever their race." I said that this was a fine sentiment, but what if the other managers were Indian and they started hiring their cousins over more qualified white guys. Would you still "hire the best guy regardless of race?"

    He just shrugged. I pushed him on it. I said what about politics. What if blacks, Hispanics, Indians and others don't vote for the best guy or even on issues but they vote for politician of their race, which, in fact, they already do. I asked him point blank, "At what point do you start acting like other groups? When do you start hiring the white guy or voting for the party that protects whites just as other groups are doing the same?"

    He just shrugged again (much more agitated) and changed the subject.

    The whole idea of being tribal causes the older generation a lot of angst. The really hate it because it goes against everything that they were taught, how they think about this country (well, what this country once was). They will not give it up.

    I understand them. Because of where I grew up, I was raised in their old world. But I've been an adult in modern America, whereas they were adults before things turned too much. The fact that fairly normal guys like me have changed their worldview so much in the past decade or so says something about what's coming.

    , @Logan
    Secular Jews intermarry at a huge rate. They have one of the lowest birthrates of any group. Their children (well, usually child) tend to not be raised Jewish.

    All this adds up to a rapidly disappearing ethnic group.

    Which kind of cuts against the Jews constituting a group conspiracy to take over the world. Going out of existence is not a good way to accomplish that.
    , @AnotherDad

    With two generations of 50%+ intermarriage rates, Jews have already effectively mostly joined forces with whites. And a lot of the remainder are the religious ones who already vote GOP.
     
    This is a good thing long run.

    But ... these half-Jews don't seem to be very "join forces with whites" type folks to me. (Not talking about you, but averages.)

    Rather it seems like a good many skew super-SJW. Mattress girl (admittedly a CHEW). Tim Wise.

    I don't have a huge sample of such folks like you. But my niece definitely has a lot of SJW b.s. loaded into her brain from my sister-in-law. And I bet that's not atypical. (My brother--whose is left but anti-identity politics--steers her toward more realism, so she isn't a loon ... but the tendencies are there.) If you just told someone was half-Jewish and I had to guess their politics it wouldn't be "like any regular white person's".

    I'm guessing when you get another generation or two in--and as the anti-white stuff ramps up--then you'll get a real swing.
  24. Miro23 says:
    @Anon
    "You seem to be of the mindset that white people in general are easily duped, but somehow you have the antibodies against Jewish machinations."

    Appeal to popular opinion fallacy. That's not really the rebuttal you think it is. There have been numerous times when the overwhelming majority of the public was tricked into believing something that was obviously wrong. Only 22% of Americans disapproved of the Iraq war in early March. But guess what? That 1/5th of the population was right.

    'Decision to Use Military Force in Iraq'

    March, 2003

    72% Right Decision

    22% Wrong Decision

    http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/03/19/public-attitudes-toward-the-war-in-iraq-20032008/


    So, yes. The masses are indeed easily duped. That explains a lot of what is wrong with this world.

    There have been numerous times when the overwhelming majority of the public was tricked into believing something that was obviously wrong. Only 22% of Americans disapproved of the Iraq war in early March. But guess what? That 1/5th of the population was right.

    ‘Decision to Use Military Force in Iraq’
    March, 2003

    72% Right Decision
    22% Wrong Decision

    http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/03/19/public-attitudes-toward-the-war-in-iraq-20032008/

    So, yes. The masses are indeed easily duped. That explains a lot of what is wrong with this world.

    That’s a good point – the public have this residual belief that the media works the same way as a town hall debate, with differing opinions and an emerging consensus – with the media encouraging them in this “Fair and Balanced” belief.

    In reality it’s pure propaganda with a Neocon ” Isreal First” agenda, so the public may think that they are making “informed decisions” when in fact they aren’t.

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  25. Coemgen says:
    @Daniel Chieh
    In Chinese, baizuo heavily hints of "idiot"(白痴) so the humor is reinforced.

    Can you give the appropriate (Mandarin) tones for baizuo?

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    Bái zuǒ

    Google translate's "白左" isn't terrible.
  26. unit472 says:
    @joef
    Any spoken truth re: race relations, with afro americans, is relentlessly attacked by the MSM and academia, so I do not hold much hope in a productive outcome from this. One of the main obstacles to honest dialogue is that leftist frequently attack how we feel about afros. This purposely evades the question through distraction, because it does not matter how we feel about afros, instead it matters how they feel about us.

    Afros randomly hate whitey through their own self initiated desire to do so. Realist are leery of afros through bad personal experience, not from an arbitrary decision. If the majority of afros behaved in a civilized manner towards their countrymen then there would be no negative opinions of afros. It is through afro bad behavior that realist formulate their realistic opinions (the opinion is based on empirical reality).

    And the worst of it is that afros kill more of their countrymen than any other category/group of people (including terrorist). Despite the leftist demand that we ignore this fact it doesn't make it any less true. Leftist will continue to irresponsibly push afros into more white hating behavior, and politicians will continue to exchange entitlements for votes. Realistically there will be no reversal of these actions, which cannot last forever. At some point this will not be able to continue from the economics alone.

    The leftist are amazed that they have not obtained complete submission on whats
    allowable opinion on afros. They are ignoring the trigger points to dissent which are underemployment, credit bubble reaching its limits (soon credit cards will not be available to supplement monthly income for the underemployed), ever higher taxes to pay for the failing entitlement state (while other city/state/federal govt services are drastically reduced), while being constantly accused of being racist by limo liberal white elites (so they can feel better about themselves).

    Once the discontent reaches intolerable levels, the non afro citizen will start to lose a vested interest in this nation's future. On the other side of it, afros will not understand when the entitlement state starts to fail, because of the endless free lunch political promises recieved for the last 50 years. When the free lunch ends the chronic riots, rapes, arson, and looting begins. Make your own conclusion where this is headed (can anyone say failed state, or feral cities), but remember that your foresight, and rational self interest, may be punished by polite company who prefer not to think about it.

    Black crime and, in particular, interracial violence is the negro modus operandi. It is economic extortion to preserve the negro share of an economic pie he contributes nothing to the production of.

    It is simply blacks saying to the rest of America “Nice country you’ve got here, be a shame if something happened to it”. Thus boondoggles like Head Start or Affirmative Action escape all oversight as to efficacy because to do otherwise would greatly increase black crime and violence.

    Of course the money is running out so choices are going to have to be made. Unpalatable choices. Public schools or public pensions? Welfare or police and fire protection? Medicaid for hoodrats or Medicare for seniors?

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    Black crime and, in particular, interracial violence is the negro modus operandi. It is economic extortion to preserve the negro share of an economic pie he contributes nothing to the production of.
    It is simply blacks saying to the rest of America “Nice country you’ve got here, be a shame if something happened to it”.
     
    To a certain extent you are correct, however most ghetto afros that I encounter are not that calculating (with the exception of dealing drugs, and even then its the guy running the corner who is doing most of the brain work).

    What I found, dealing with them most of my life, is that they are into immediate gratification here & now. They have no idea, nor are they interested in, how things are provided. To them the roads, electricity, running water, sewage, food on the store shelves, etc are just there. It is not even they take it for granted like most soft Americans of today, they actually do not know how it actually got there (to them its just there).

    It is there radical leftist handlers who are actually using them to extort the rest of us in order to create their socialist paradise. A few educated afros are also involved, but they are not the controlling interest of this socialist agenda. The radical leftist are just taking advantage of the ghetto afros natural destructive tendencies.

  27. The normally coherent Mr. D misses the whole point here. Prof. Wax writes an essay about culture and Mr. D writes a column about biology and statistics.

    To the man with the hammer of race, everything looks like a nail.

    So I ask him: could a group/race with lower “intelligence”, as measured by his preferred tests and statistics, develop a proper and functional culture long the lines Prof. Wax suggests? Isn’t this the crux of the issue?

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    What is your answer to the rhetorical question you ask?

    I think it is a critically important question to be able to answer.

    Certainly to develop a technologically advanced civilization a certain level of cognitive ability would seem to be required. Professor Wax is correct in her assertion that only a few human civilizations have possessed that requisite cognitive ability.

    What is that threshold?

    Of greater import: What is the level of cognitive ability a population must possess in order to create a society that is not only technologically advanced, but morally advanced?

    Is there any correlation between the two?
  28. @Lot

    At some point, you have to believe that Jews will realize that they’re not going to treated as non-whites and will decide to join forces with the only group that they can – non-Jewish whites. Well, that or move to Israel.
     
    Full Jews, aside from the ultra-orthodox and hasids, are an elderly and low fertility group.

    With two generations of 50%+ intermarriage rates, Jews have already effectively mostly joined forces with whites. And a lot of the remainder are the religious ones who already vote GOP.

    So it is not a matter of changing minds, which is hard to do in elderly people, but waiting for the rapidly approaching demographic end of the secular Ashkenazi Jew. Already this group, as a share of the white population, has probably gone from ~3.5% to 1%, and as a share of new white births is lower still, maybe even 0.5%.

    Of the people with kids on my facebook, I'd say half jew kids outnumber full jews about 8 to 1.

    Yeah, I certainly see that in my own world – and even almost my own life! Secular and even mildly religious Jews inter-marry at huge rates, which only sounds high if you don’t see their lives. Even if a Jew grows up in a heavily Jewish area (not typically the case), they’re still going to high schools that are majority non-Jewish. They have a lot of non-Jewish friends.

    Then, it’s off to college and then after college where Jews literally surrounded by other non-Jewish whites, all of whom are, well, the same as they are. Unless a Jew has a very strong desire to marry another Jew, the odds are overwhelming that they will marry a non-Jew, which is what happens.

    This fact alone should tell Jews something.

    Regarding the older generation, I suspect that you’re right because I see a similar thing with old whites (Jews and non-Jews alike). They’re a bit like our own flake Corvinus. “We’re equal all equal . . .” “I don’t see color . . .” etc., etc.

    They grew up in a white country where you could afford to think that way and now live in neighborhoods where they aren’t faced with the reality that other groups are tribal. For the older generation, it’s just distasteful to even think about such things.

    I was talking with my father-in-law the other day about race issues and he said the usual boilerplate. He even mentioned that when he was a manager, he would always “hire the best guy for the job whatever their race.” I said that this was a fine sentiment, but what if the other managers were Indian and they started hiring their cousins over more qualified white guys. Would you still “hire the best guy regardless of race?”

    He just shrugged. I pushed him on it. I said what about politics. What if blacks, Hispanics, Indians and others don’t vote for the best guy or even on issues but they vote for politician of their race, which, in fact, they already do. I asked him point blank, “At what point do you start acting like other groups? When do you start hiring the white guy or voting for the party that protects whites just as other groups are doing the same?”

    He just shrugged again (much more agitated) and changed the subject.

    The whole idea of being tribal causes the older generation a lot of angst. The really hate it because it goes against everything that they were taught, how they think about this country (well, what this country once was). They will not give it up.

    I understand them. Because of where I grew up, I was raised in their old world. But I’ve been an adult in modern America, whereas they were adults before things turned too much. The fact that fairly normal guys like me have changed their worldview so much in the past decade or so says something about what’s coming.

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    • Replies: @Seneca
    Great comment ...pretty much sums up the problem and my experience.

    Whites are the only group not behaving tribally. Much to their children's detriment.

    , @Diversity Heretic
    Excellent and perceptive post! I see the same phenomenon with my father. I still feel it's pull within myself, but I'm working to change it.
    , @Corvinus
    "This fact alone should tell Jews something."

    It tells them that Jews make up their own mind as to whom they marry, and it's none of their business.

    "They grew up in a white country where you could afford to think that way and now live in neighborhoods where they aren’t faced with the reality that other groups are tribal."

    Some members of a group act tribally.

    "I said that this was a fine sentiment, but what if the other managers were Indian and they started hiring their cousins over more qualified white guys. Would you still “hire the best guy regardless of race?”

    Is this situation isolated or perpetual? Because assuredly in some cases you may have Indians who hire Indians, or you may see them hire non-Indians. It depends upon context.

    "What if blacks, Hispanics, Indians and others don’t vote for the best guy or even on issues but they vote for politician of their race, which, in fact, they already do. I asked him point blank, “At what point do you start acting like other groups? When do you start hiring the white guy or voting for the party that protects whites just as other groups are doing the same?”

    He shrugged because you are overplaying the tribal card when it comes to politics. Americans are tribal in their politics considering that over the decades Republicans and Democrats have demonized one another, which only hardens those groups who believe they benefit from or will become disadvantaged by the political party that wins an election.

    The whole idea of being tribal causes the older generation a lot of angst. The really hate it because it goes against everything that they were taught, how they think about this country (well, what this country once was). They will not give it up.

    "The fact that fairly normal guys like me have changed their worldview so much in the past decade or so says something about what’s coming."

    Some people who share a similar outlook like yourself have "changed their worldview", which is other than surprising, considering older folks see how the younger folks think and act.
  29. As Derb himself wrote in his superb 2002 column calling for more pessimism in the conservative movement:

    • Not all groups are equally good at all things. East Asians will continue to win Olympic diving events, and runners of West African ancestry will continue to win the 100-meter dash. Similarly, nobody will ever be able to devise a test of knowledge or understanding on which groups with different population-genetic histories all record identical statistical profiles. You can have meritocracy, or you can have equality of outcomes by ancestry-group, but you can’t have both. Which one do you want? It seems we have already made up our minds. Corollary …

    Affirmative action is absolutely essential to social order. Think about it.

    It seems a kind of “affirmative action of the mind” is now dominant. It’s not enough to place blacks in elite schools or high up on the corporate ladder or in positions of prestige with the government, regardless of actual qualifications. We now have to pretend the affirmative action which put them there doesn’t exist. Just don’t talk about it. Yes, when defending affirmative action liberals will reluctantly mutter about the “legacy of institutional racism” etc. but for the most part leftists don’t bother with detailed justification for what they do.

    Now, it’s just raw, unadulterated muscle. “Shut up, racist! Or I’ll ruin your life!”

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    • Replies: @JackOH
    "Now, it’s just raw, unadulterated muscle. 'Shut up, racist! Or I’ll ruin your life!'"

    Yep, exactly, Patrick, the chains are internalized now. Our local state university, as I'd mentioned in a recent comment, runs the most corrupt hiring practices I'll ever see. Affirmative action, selectively benefiting mostly White women although Blacks aren't supposed to notice, plus crony 'n' patronage hiring, a White dude welfare program for selected Whites, plus, atop that, a toxic organized labor-administration environment, making the whole mess even wobblier.

    Any insider who even mildly questions the symptoms of this sclerotic institution is hammered pretty badly with bad job assignments, poor evaluations, internal investigations, and the like. One wage-earning staffer was a fair-haired boy until he filed a grievance regarding overtime preference, which preference was customary locally and also spelled out in the labor contract. He was "rewarded" with a bad assignment, and public, in-front-of-everyone scoldings.

    I'm ranting a bit here, but thanks for your comment.

  30. iffen says:
    @Lot
    Overstated a bit, but that is all correct.

    The partial immunity Jews have from being called racists/Nazis gives them a special obligation to use this power for good, to protect the Anglosphere nations that have been their home and protectors for so long. (NE Asians too. They came here to enjoy the fruits of a society built by whites, and are morally obligated to defend it, and they have an even stronger immunity than white Jews).

    It is hard to say how partial the immunity Jews get is. Certainly Miller and Wax get a lot of hate and are labeled racists. So did the Evergreen State biology professor who criticized and refused to join the "Day Whites are Banned from Campus." And worse still, refused to back down in the face of SJW threats, showing them to be impotent against men with backbone.

    Blacks and Muslims certainly hate right-wing Jews and are not shy about it. However, non-Jewish SJW whites are still the biggest single group on the left, and I do think they are reluctant to viciously attack a careful, well-informed Jewish race realist compared to a Charles Murray.

    a special obligation

    Could you leave off with the chosen/special constructions? It grates after a while.

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  31. @Coemgen
    Can you give the appropriate (Mandarin) tones for baizuo?

    Bái zuǒ

    Google translate’s “白左” isn’t terrible.

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  32. joef says:
    @unit472
    Black crime and, in particular, interracial violence is the negro modus operandi. It is economic extortion to preserve the negro share of an economic pie he contributes nothing to the production of.

    It is simply blacks saying to the rest of America "Nice country you've got here, be a shame if something happened to it". Thus boondoggles like Head Start or Affirmative Action escape all oversight as to efficacy because to do otherwise would greatly increase black crime and violence.

    Of course the money is running out so choices are going to have to be made. Unpalatable choices. Public schools or public pensions? Welfare or police and fire protection? Medicaid for hoodrats or Medicare for seniors?

    Black crime and, in particular, interracial violence is the negro modus operandi. It is economic extortion to preserve the negro share of an economic pie he contributes nothing to the production of.
    It is simply blacks saying to the rest of America “Nice country you’ve got here, be a shame if something happened to it”.

    To a certain extent you are correct, however most ghetto afros that I encounter are not that calculating (with the exception of dealing drugs, and even then its the guy running the corner who is doing most of the brain work).

    What I found, dealing with them most of my life, is that they are into immediate gratification here & now. They have no idea, nor are they interested in, how things are provided. To them the roads, electricity, running water, sewage, food on the store shelves, etc are just there. It is not even they take it for granted like most soft Americans of today, they actually do not know how it actually got there (to them its just there).

    It is there radical leftist handlers who are actually using them to extort the rest of us in order to create their socialist paradise. A few educated afros are also involved, but they are not the controlling interest of this socialist agenda. The radical leftist are just taking advantage of the ghetto afros natural destructive tendencies.

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  33. Dog whistles can be very useful. Take one on a walk through your neighborhood, or anywhere else, then whistle. You do know how to whistle, don’t you?

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  34. JackOH says:
    @Patrick in SC
    As Derb himself wrote in his superb 2002 column calling for more pessimism in the conservative movement:

    • Not all groups are equally good at all things. East Asians will continue to win Olympic diving events, and runners of West African ancestry will continue to win the 100-meter dash. Similarly, nobody will ever be able to devise a test of knowledge or understanding on which groups with different population-genetic histories all record identical statistical profiles. You can have meritocracy, or you can have equality of outcomes by ancestry-group, but you can't have both. Which one do you want? It seems we have already made up our minds. Corollary …

    Affirmative action is absolutely essential to social order. Think about it.
     
    It seems a kind of "affirmative action of the mind" is now dominant. It's not enough to place blacks in elite schools or high up on the corporate ladder or in positions of prestige with the government, regardless of actual qualifications. We now have to pretend the affirmative action which put them there doesn't exist. Just don't talk about it. Yes, when defending affirmative action liberals will reluctantly mutter about the "legacy of institutional racism" etc. but for the most part leftists don't bother with detailed justification for what they do.

    Now, it's just raw, unadulterated muscle. "Shut up, racist! Or I'll ruin your life!"

    “Now, it’s just raw, unadulterated muscle. ‘Shut up, racist! Or I’ll ruin your life!’”

    Yep, exactly, Patrick, the chains are internalized now. Our local state university, as I’d mentioned in a recent comment, runs the most corrupt hiring practices I’ll ever see. Affirmative action, selectively benefiting mostly White women although Blacks aren’t supposed to notice, plus crony ‘n’ patronage hiring, a White dude welfare program for selected Whites, plus, atop that, a toxic organized labor-administration environment, making the whole mess even wobblier.

    Any insider who even mildly questions the symptoms of this sclerotic institution is hammered pretty badly with bad job assignments, poor evaluations, internal investigations, and the like. One wage-earning staffer was a fair-haired boy until he filed a grievance regarding overtime preference, which preference was customary locally and also spelled out in the labor contract. He was “rewarded” with a bad assignment, and public, in-front-of-everyone scoldings.

    I’m ranting a bit here, but thanks for your comment.

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    • Replies: @Logan
    20-some years ago I worked for a franchisor of water and fire restoration services. Went with a franchisee to present a proposal for restoring flooded buildings in a "historically black" college.

    Board was interested in one thing and one thing only. What color would the people who got the work be?

    Open and blatant. Blew me away.
  35. Seneca says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yeah, I certainly see that in my own world - and even almost my own life! Secular and even mildly religious Jews inter-marry at huge rates, which only sounds high if you don't see their lives. Even if a Jew grows up in a heavily Jewish area (not typically the case), they're still going to high schools that are majority non-Jewish. They have a lot of non-Jewish friends.

    Then, it's off to college and then after college where Jews literally surrounded by other non-Jewish whites, all of whom are, well, the same as they are. Unless a Jew has a very strong desire to marry another Jew, the odds are overwhelming that they will marry a non-Jew, which is what happens.

    This fact alone should tell Jews something.

    Regarding the older generation, I suspect that you're right because I see a similar thing with old whites (Jews and non-Jews alike). They're a bit like our own flake Corvinus. "We're equal all equal . . ." "I don't see color . . ." etc., etc.

    They grew up in a white country where you could afford to think that way and now live in neighborhoods where they aren't faced with the reality that other groups are tribal. For the older generation, it's just distasteful to even think about such things.

    I was talking with my father-in-law the other day about race issues and he said the usual boilerplate. He even mentioned that when he was a manager, he would always "hire the best guy for the job whatever their race." I said that this was a fine sentiment, but what if the other managers were Indian and they started hiring their cousins over more qualified white guys. Would you still "hire the best guy regardless of race?"

    He just shrugged. I pushed him on it. I said what about politics. What if blacks, Hispanics, Indians and others don't vote for the best guy or even on issues but they vote for politician of their race, which, in fact, they already do. I asked him point blank, "At what point do you start acting like other groups? When do you start hiring the white guy or voting for the party that protects whites just as other groups are doing the same?"

    He just shrugged again (much more agitated) and changed the subject.

    The whole idea of being tribal causes the older generation a lot of angst. The really hate it because it goes against everything that they were taught, how they think about this country (well, what this country once was). They will not give it up.

    I understand them. Because of where I grew up, I was raised in their old world. But I've been an adult in modern America, whereas they were adults before things turned too much. The fact that fairly normal guys like me have changed their worldview so much in the past decade or so says something about what's coming.

    Great comment …pretty much sums up the problem and my experience.

    Whites are the only group not behaving tribally. Much to their children’s detriment.

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    • Replies: @Logan
    A group that is sufficiently dominant socially and numerically need not behave tribally.

    However, as its numbers go down, the disadvantage of not "sticking together" begins to increase. At some point, it probably goes over a tipping point, and the disadvantages get much bigger much faster.

    In a "majority-minority" society it is ludicrous to expect that one and only one of the minorities will remain non-tribal in orientation.

    Which probably means, as the Derb explains, that only a society with a large majority of a single group can be non-tribal for the most part. The various minorities are marginal rather than central.
  36. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Daniel Chieh
    Most typically: zǒugǒu (走狗) or "lapdog" to express someone who is a foolish toady or collaborator, who is used and later discarded. Literal translation is: "walking dog", presumably obediently to others.

    That explains the “running dog” which used to puzzle us so.

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  37. Internet used to be like the Democracy Wall.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Wall

    But the Globalists are now shutting it down. Too many people speaking truth to power.

    We must own Free Speech and Anti-War.

    Internet must be a Democracy Wall.

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  38. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yeah, I certainly see that in my own world - and even almost my own life! Secular and even mildly religious Jews inter-marry at huge rates, which only sounds high if you don't see their lives. Even if a Jew grows up in a heavily Jewish area (not typically the case), they're still going to high schools that are majority non-Jewish. They have a lot of non-Jewish friends.

    Then, it's off to college and then after college where Jews literally surrounded by other non-Jewish whites, all of whom are, well, the same as they are. Unless a Jew has a very strong desire to marry another Jew, the odds are overwhelming that they will marry a non-Jew, which is what happens.

    This fact alone should tell Jews something.

    Regarding the older generation, I suspect that you're right because I see a similar thing with old whites (Jews and non-Jews alike). They're a bit like our own flake Corvinus. "We're equal all equal . . ." "I don't see color . . ." etc., etc.

    They grew up in a white country where you could afford to think that way and now live in neighborhoods where they aren't faced with the reality that other groups are tribal. For the older generation, it's just distasteful to even think about such things.

    I was talking with my father-in-law the other day about race issues and he said the usual boilerplate. He even mentioned that when he was a manager, he would always "hire the best guy for the job whatever their race." I said that this was a fine sentiment, but what if the other managers were Indian and they started hiring their cousins over more qualified white guys. Would you still "hire the best guy regardless of race?"

    He just shrugged. I pushed him on it. I said what about politics. What if blacks, Hispanics, Indians and others don't vote for the best guy or even on issues but they vote for politician of their race, which, in fact, they already do. I asked him point blank, "At what point do you start acting like other groups? When do you start hiring the white guy or voting for the party that protects whites just as other groups are doing the same?"

    He just shrugged again (much more agitated) and changed the subject.

    The whole idea of being tribal causes the older generation a lot of angst. The really hate it because it goes against everything that they were taught, how they think about this country (well, what this country once was). They will not give it up.

    I understand them. Because of where I grew up, I was raised in their old world. But I've been an adult in modern America, whereas they were adults before things turned too much. The fact that fairly normal guys like me have changed their worldview so much in the past decade or so says something about what's coming.

    Excellent and perceptive post! I see the same phenomenon with my father. I still feel it’s pull within myself, but I’m working to change it.

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  39. Logan says:
    @Lot

    At some point, you have to believe that Jews will realize that they’re not going to treated as non-whites and will decide to join forces with the only group that they can – non-Jewish whites. Well, that or move to Israel.
     
    Full Jews, aside from the ultra-orthodox and hasids, are an elderly and low fertility group.

    With two generations of 50%+ intermarriage rates, Jews have already effectively mostly joined forces with whites. And a lot of the remainder are the religious ones who already vote GOP.

    So it is not a matter of changing minds, which is hard to do in elderly people, but waiting for the rapidly approaching demographic end of the secular Ashkenazi Jew. Already this group, as a share of the white population, has probably gone from ~3.5% to 1%, and as a share of new white births is lower still, maybe even 0.5%.

    Of the people with kids on my facebook, I'd say half jew kids outnumber full jews about 8 to 1.

    Secular Jews intermarry at a huge rate. They have one of the lowest birthrates of any group. Their children (well, usually child) tend to not be raised Jewish.

    All this adds up to a rapidly disappearing ethnic group.

    Which kind of cuts against the Jews constituting a group conspiracy to take over the world. Going out of existence is not a good way to accomplish that.

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    Secular Jews intermarry at a huge rate. They have one of the lowest birthrates of any group. Their children (well, usually child) tend to not be raised Jewish.

    All this adds up to a rapidly disappearing ethnic group.
     

    And where do secular Jews come from? A lot of them are the descendents of orthodox Jews. And Orthodox Jews tend to have a lot of kids, and tenaciously hold on to thier culture and ethnic identification. The orthodox serve as a bullpen for jewish identity, and there are always lots of relief pitchers. Jewishness, as an ethnic identification, isn't going away, anymore than "Chinese-ness" is.
  40. Logan says:
    @JackOH
    "Now, it’s just raw, unadulterated muscle. 'Shut up, racist! Or I’ll ruin your life!'"

    Yep, exactly, Patrick, the chains are internalized now. Our local state university, as I'd mentioned in a recent comment, runs the most corrupt hiring practices I'll ever see. Affirmative action, selectively benefiting mostly White women although Blacks aren't supposed to notice, plus crony 'n' patronage hiring, a White dude welfare program for selected Whites, plus, atop that, a toxic organized labor-administration environment, making the whole mess even wobblier.

    Any insider who even mildly questions the symptoms of this sclerotic institution is hammered pretty badly with bad job assignments, poor evaluations, internal investigations, and the like. One wage-earning staffer was a fair-haired boy until he filed a grievance regarding overtime preference, which preference was customary locally and also spelled out in the labor contract. He was "rewarded" with a bad assignment, and public, in-front-of-everyone scoldings.

    I'm ranting a bit here, but thanks for your comment.

    20-some years ago I worked for a franchisor of water and fire restoration services. Went with a franchisee to present a proposal for restoring flooded buildings in a “historically black” college.

    Board was interested in one thing and one thing only. What color would the people who got the work be?

    Open and blatant. Blew me away.

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  41. Logan says:
    @Seneca
    Great comment ...pretty much sums up the problem and my experience.

    Whites are the only group not behaving tribally. Much to their children's detriment.

    A group that is sufficiently dominant socially and numerically need not behave tribally.

    However, as its numbers go down, the disadvantage of not “sticking together” begins to increase. At some point, it probably goes over a tipping point, and the disadvantages get much bigger much faster.

    In a “majority-minority” society it is ludicrous to expect that one and only one of the minorities will remain non-tribal in orientation.

    Which probably means, as the Derb explains, that only a society with a large majority of a single group can be non-tribal for the most part. The various minorities are marginal rather than central.

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  42. “the out-of-Africa races,”

    The whole “out of africa” thing may be up for reconsideration. Very recently humanoid footprints, millions of years older than “out of africa” were found. Of all places, Greece.

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    • Replies: @Immigrant from former USSR

    The whole “out of africa” thing may be up for reconsideration. Very recently humanoid footprints, millions of years older than “out of africa” were found.
     
    Dear Rhett can you provide the reference ?
  43. @Rhett Hardwick
    "the out-of-Africa races,"

    The whole "out of africa" thing may be up for reconsideration. Very recently humanoid footprints, millions of years older than "out of africa" were found. Of all places, Greece.

    The whole “out of africa” thing may be up for reconsideration. Very recently humanoid footprints, millions of years older than “out of africa” were found.

    Dear Rhett can you provide the reference ?

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    • Replies: @Parson Frew

    The whole “out of africa” thing may be up for reconsideration. Very recently humanoid footprints, millions of years older than “out of africa” were found.

    Dear Rhett can you provide the reference ?
     
    @Immigrant from former USSR

    If that intrigues you check out Michael Cremo on youtube.
  44. @Immigrant from former USSR

    The whole “out of africa” thing may be up for reconsideration. Very recently humanoid footprints, millions of years older than “out of africa” were found.
     
    Dear Rhett can you provide the reference ?

    The whole “out of africa” thing may be up for reconsideration. Very recently humanoid footprints, millions of years older than “out of africa” were found.

    Dear Rhett can you provide the reference ?

    If that intrigues you check out Michael Cremo on youtube.

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    • Replies: @Immigrant from former USSR
    Does your reply mean that neither you nor Rhett have any particular reference ?
    , @El Dato

    millions of years older than “out of africa” were found.
     
    That would be straight out of the flintstones, with dinosaur pets and all.

    Human precursors ain't older than about 300'000y (that's a LONG time already)
  45. @Parson Frew

    The whole “out of africa” thing may be up for reconsideration. Very recently humanoid footprints, millions of years older than “out of africa” were found.

    Dear Rhett can you provide the reference ?
     
    @Immigrant from former USSR

    If that intrigues you check out Michael Cremo on youtube.

    Does your reply mean that neither you nor Rhett have any particular reference ?

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  46. Looked up Michael Cremo. Not sure if he prefers Froot Loops or Coco Puffs.

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    I tried to

    check out Michael Cremo on youtube.
     
    He claims to be researcher in Human origins, International society for Krishna Consciousness .

    He also claims to have had presented his work at non-existent entity of Russian Academy of Sciences:
    Dept. of Anthropology, Moscow.
    The closest approximation to that would be
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Anthropology_and_Ethnography

    The Institute of Anthropology and Ethnography or N.N. Miklukho-Maklai Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology (Russian: Институт этнологии и антропологии им. Н.Н. Миклухо-Маклая; abbreviated as ИЭА in Russian and IEA in English) is a Russian institute of research, specializing in ethnographic studies of cultural and physical anthropology. The institute is a constituent institute of the History branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences, with its main building on Leninsky Prospekt, Moscow.
    The Institute is named after the renowned 19th century ethnologist and anthropologist Nicholas Miklouho-Maclay.

    Make Krishna-conscious conclusions yourself.

    I.f.f.U.

  47. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus
    "If Jews don’t completely control the commanding heights of our society, they are hugely important players, and they fight . . . hard."

    Per usual, you overstate and overvalue Jewish influence on American culture.

    "Until things get a lot worse on the ground, i.e. upper middle-class whites simply can’t afford to turn a blind eye, how far all of this goes, I suspect, will largely be determined by influential Jews."

    Upper middle-class whites indeed turn a blind eye to the Jewish conspiracy theories. They lead their own lives and make their own decisions.

    "If they continue to believe that Invade the World/Invite the World/We’re all the same is “Good for the Jews,” it’ll continue. If they start to see diminishing marginal returns or fear that a heavily Muslim Europe and/or a Brazil-like United States isn’t Good for the Jews, we’ll miraculously learn from our betters that borders are good thing and that everyone knows that genes play a major role in outcomes."

    You argue from a false premise, assuming that white people have been hopelessly diverted from seeing the actual truth, until one day when a financial maelstrom engulfs them, and lo and behold, we normies bear witness to the huffing and puffing of our "Jewish masters", become enraged like Popeye eating his spinach to gain superhuman strength, and begin to go all Saxon on their asses.

    Praytell, who are these "betters" you speak of? And, as people know, the debate rages on regarding whether genes, or environment, are responsible for a number of societal phenomenon.

    "Just a lots of wealthy and influential Jews who think the same way and use their influence to push that agenda."

    Let us assume, for fun, that you are right. What are you doing to stop their menace other than commenting on a blog? If you know this "truth", is it not your responsibility to take action to benefit your fellow whites?

    "Given that whites seem particularly vulnerable when it comes to debates about genetics and nationalism due to our history and the Enlightenment philosophy, we just let the most forceful elements – in this case, Jews – lead."

    Or, more reasonably, whites generally make up their own minds when it comes these two topics, and lead themselves, which makes people like yourself shake their collective heads in disgust that they are exercising their liberty politically and socially. You seem to be of the mindset that white people in general are easily duped, but somehow you have the antibodies against Jewish machinations.

    Per usual, you overstate and overvalue Jewish influence on American culture.

    How would YOU characterize that influence? Of no consequence whatsoever? When a group that makes up about 2% of America’s population (self-identified) constitutes about 5% of the House of Representatives, 9% of the U.S. Senate, 33% of the Supreme Court, is that of no consequence? The fact that all of the existing major film studios were founded by (and still largely controlled by) Jews – that has no impact on American society? Every Fed Chairman for the last thirty years – not important?

    Praytell, who are these “betters” you speak of?

    Certainly not you. You are nobody’s “better”.

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    "How would YOU characterize that influence? Of no consequence whatsoever? When a group that makes up about 2% of America’s population (self-identified) constitutes about 5% of the House of Representatives, 9% of the U.S. Senate, 33% of the Supreme Court, is that of no consequence?"

    It is a consequence only to those who believe there is a Jewish conspiracy.

    Does the average American look at the ballot and say "Oh, no, there's another Jew running for office, I best be wary because they are out to get me?".

    Does the average American look at a film or television show, note how many Jews helped to create the content, and say "Oh, no, they are indoctrinating me with Cultural Marxism. Yet, I can't help but watch. They have me under a spell""

    "The fact that all of the existing major film studios were founded by (and still largely controlled by) Jews – that has no impact on American society? Every Fed Chairman for the last thirty years – not important?"

    "Certainly not you. You are nobody’s “better”."

    I never made that claim. But you imply that you know "better". Why is that?
  48. El Dato says:
    @Expletive Deleted
    That pic of 1952 cinemagoers doesn't half get thrashed to death: http://aphelis.net/cover-debord-society-spectacle is where geezers like me remember it from. Perhaps Joe Patrick and the rest ought to have a read of it someday.
    Six dollars at Wally's, o i am laffin. No wonder he topped himself.

    https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/5b7ab7d5-c89a-4b4f-b09a-a77e9ab8c870_1.bfed8c0a0cf89ca3fb6712c89cbead24.jpeg

    The modern version starring Mr. Zuckerberg walking down the aisle in control mode also ain’t bad.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/all-the-ways-people-freaked-out-about-this-insane-zuckerberg-vr-photo/

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  49. Mr. Anon says:
    @Logan
    Secular Jews intermarry at a huge rate. They have one of the lowest birthrates of any group. Their children (well, usually child) tend to not be raised Jewish.

    All this adds up to a rapidly disappearing ethnic group.

    Which kind of cuts against the Jews constituting a group conspiracy to take over the world. Going out of existence is not a good way to accomplish that.

    Secular Jews intermarry at a huge rate. They have one of the lowest birthrates of any group. Their children (well, usually child) tend to not be raised Jewish.

    All this adds up to a rapidly disappearing ethnic group.

    And where do secular Jews come from? A lot of them are the descendents of orthodox Jews. And Orthodox Jews tend to have a lot of kids, and tenaciously hold on to thier culture and ethnic identification. The orthodox serve as a bullpen for jewish identity, and there are always lots of relief pitchers. Jewishness, as an ethnic identification, isn’t going away, anymore than “Chinese-ness” is.

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  50. El Dato says:
    @Parson Frew

    The whole “out of africa” thing may be up for reconsideration. Very recently humanoid footprints, millions of years older than “out of africa” were found.

    Dear Rhett can you provide the reference ?
     
    @Immigrant from former USSR

    If that intrigues you check out Michael Cremo on youtube.

    millions of years older than “out of africa” were found.

    That would be straight out of the flintstones, with dinosaur pets and all.

    Human precursors ain’t older than about 300’000y (that’s a LONG time already)

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  51. Mr. Anon says:

    Tucker Carlson interviewed Larry Alexander (Amy Wax’s co-author on the op-ed in question) last week:

    Larry Alexander Interview

    He (Carlson) pointed out that all of the upper-middle-class to upper-class liberals he knows (he lives in a tony neighborhood in the Washington D.C. area, so he knows a lot of such people) go to great lengths to instill bourgeoise habits in their own children. So they clearly agree with Professors Wax and Alexander when it comes to the welfare of their own families.

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  52. @Ozymandias
    Looked up Michael Cremo. Not sure if he prefers Froot Loops or Coco Puffs.

    I tried to

    check out Michael Cremo on youtube.

    He claims to be researcher in Human origins, International society for Krishna Consciousness .

    He also claims to have had presented his work at non-existent entity of Russian Academy of Sciences:
    Dept. of Anthropology, Moscow.
    The closest approximation to that would be

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Anthropology_and_Ethnography

    The Institute of Anthropology and Ethnography or N.N. Miklukho-Maklai Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology (Russian: Институт этнологии и антропологии им. Н.Н. Миклухо-Маклая; abbreviated as ИЭА in Russian and IEA in English) is a Russian institute of research, specializing in ethnographic studies of cultural and physical anthropology. The institute is a constituent institute of the History branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences, with its main building on Leninsky Prospekt, Moscow.
    The Institute is named after the renowned 19th century ethnologist and anthropologist Nicholas Miklouho-Maclay.

    Make Krishna-conscious conclusions yourself.

    I.f.f.U.

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  53. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Captain Willard
    The normally coherent Mr. D misses the whole point here. Prof. Wax writes an essay about culture and Mr. D writes a column about biology and statistics.

    To the man with the hammer of race, everything looks like a nail.

    So I ask him: could a group/race with lower "intelligence", as measured by his preferred tests and statistics, develop a proper and functional culture long the lines Prof. Wax suggests? Isn't this the crux of the issue?

    What is your answer to the rhetorical question you ask?

    I think it is a critically important question to be able to answer.

    Certainly to develop a technologically advanced civilization a certain level of cognitive ability would seem to be required. Professor Wax is correct in her assertion that only a few human civilizations have possessed that requisite cognitive ability.

    What is that threshold?

    Of greater import: What is the level of cognitive ability a population must possess in order to create a society that is not only technologically advanced, but morally advanced?

    Is there any correlation between the two?

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    • Replies: @phil
    In terms of a simple correlation, an advanced civilization seems to require an average IQ greater than 90. Your concern about morality is more challenging, because even very smart people fall prey to ridiculous movements and ideologies. There can be moral decline even if average IQ stays the same.
  54. phil says:
    @lavoisier
    What is your answer to the rhetorical question you ask?

    I think it is a critically important question to be able to answer.

    Certainly to develop a technologically advanced civilization a certain level of cognitive ability would seem to be required. Professor Wax is correct in her assertion that only a few human civilizations have possessed that requisite cognitive ability.

    What is that threshold?

    Of greater import: What is the level of cognitive ability a population must possess in order to create a society that is not only technologically advanced, but morally advanced?

    Is there any correlation between the two?

    In terms of a simple correlation, an advanced civilization seems to require an average IQ greater than 90. Your concern about morality is more challenging, because even very smart people fall prey to ridiculous movements and ideologies. There can be moral decline even if average IQ stays the same.

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  55. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Per usual, you overstate and overvalue Jewish influence on American culture.
     
    How would YOU characterize that influence? Of no consequence whatsoever? When a group that makes up about 2% of America's population (self-identified) constitutes about 5% of the House of Representatives, 9% of the U.S. Senate, 33% of the Supreme Court, is that of no consequence? The fact that all of the existing major film studios were founded by (and still largely controlled by) Jews - that has no impact on American society? Every Fed Chairman for the last thirty years - not important?

    Praytell, who are these “betters” you speak of?
     
    Certainly not you. You are nobody's "better".

    “How would YOU characterize that influence? Of no consequence whatsoever? When a group that makes up about 2% of America’s population (self-identified) constitutes about 5% of the House of Representatives, 9% of the U.S. Senate, 33% of the Supreme Court, is that of no consequence?”

    It is a consequence only to those who believe there is a Jewish conspiracy.

    Does the average American look at the ballot and say “Oh, no, there’s another Jew running for office, I best be wary because they are out to get me?”.

    Does the average American look at a film or television show, note how many Jews helped to create the content, and say “Oh, no, they are indoctrinating me with Cultural Marxism. Yet, I can’t help but watch. They have me under a spell””

    “The fact that all of the existing major film studios were founded by (and still largely controlled by) Jews – that has no impact on American society? Every Fed Chairman for the last thirty years – not important?”

    “Certainly not you. You are nobody’s “better”.”

    I never made that claim. But you imply that you know “better”. Why is that?

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    Your view is ridiculously naive. Who does what has consequences. Personnel is policy. There are such things as ethnic groups, and they do have interests. Some persue them more assiduously than others. If you don't pursue your own, then somebody else will pursue his at your expense.

    And your notion that everything anyone does (such as not take note of other groups jockeying for advantage) must perforce be the result of that person acting in his own interest, is simply idiotic. Americans routinely eat badly and too much - the result is diabetes and heart-disease on a large scale. But - hey - they're exercising their own judgement, so it's all just fine, isn't it.

    You are either mendacious or stupid. I don't know which.

    "But you imply that you know “better”. Why is that?"

    Yes, I do know better than a lot of people. Because I have some native intelligence, and I use it. Because I observe the world around me and draw conclusions from it.

    I suppose you are happy to be stupid and clueless.

    , @Mr. Anon
    I asked you a question - how would you characterize such influence? You did not answer it. Are you afraid to give an honest answer. So...........how much influence?
  56. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus
    "How would YOU characterize that influence? Of no consequence whatsoever? When a group that makes up about 2% of America’s population (self-identified) constitutes about 5% of the House of Representatives, 9% of the U.S. Senate, 33% of the Supreme Court, is that of no consequence?"

    It is a consequence only to those who believe there is a Jewish conspiracy.

    Does the average American look at the ballot and say "Oh, no, there's another Jew running for office, I best be wary because they are out to get me?".

    Does the average American look at a film or television show, note how many Jews helped to create the content, and say "Oh, no, they are indoctrinating me with Cultural Marxism. Yet, I can't help but watch. They have me under a spell""

    "The fact that all of the existing major film studios were founded by (and still largely controlled by) Jews – that has no impact on American society? Every Fed Chairman for the last thirty years – not important?"

    "Certainly not you. You are nobody’s “better”."

    I never made that claim. But you imply that you know "better". Why is that?

    Your view is ridiculously naive. Who does what has consequences. Personnel is policy. There are such things as ethnic groups, and they do have interests. Some persue them more assiduously than others. If you don’t pursue your own, then somebody else will pursue his at your expense.

    And your notion that everything anyone does (such as not take note of other groups jockeying for advantage) must perforce be the result of that person acting in his own interest, is simply idiotic. Americans routinely eat badly and too much – the result is diabetes and heart-disease on a large scale. But – hey – they’re exercising their own judgement, so it’s all just fine, isn’t it.

    You are either mendacious or stupid. I don’t know which.

    “But you imply that you know “better”. Why is that?”

    Yes, I do know better than a lot of people. Because I have some native intelligence, and I use it. Because I observe the world around me and draw conclusions from it.

    I suppose you are happy to be stupid and clueless.

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    "There are such things as ethnic groups, and they do have interests."

    You seem fixated on a particular one. Why is that?

    "Some persue them more assiduously than others. If you don’t pursue your own, then somebody else will pursue his at your expense."

    Depending upon what a person is pursuing, how they pursue it, and whether it is worth that pursuit.

    "And your notion that everything anyone does (such as not take note of other groups jockeying for advantage) must perforce be the result of that person acting in his own interest, is simply idiotic."

    Individuals look out for their own interests. They also join groups who hold to the same beliefs. Unfortunately, it is the fringe elements that get all the publicity, while the normies are left holding the proverbial bag. You seem to hyperventilate nearly every time someone mentions "vibrant" or "Jew" and wonder what "goodies" they are grabbing with their grubby hands. In reality, you are no different than those groups who jockey for advantage and seek free stuff.

    "Americans routinely eat badly and too much – the result is diabetes and heart-disease on a large scale. But – hey – they’re exercising their own judgement, so it’s all just fine, isn’t it."

    Exactly. It is their liberty to blow out their arteries. Would you prefer that the government pass laws to curtail their freedom to eat high caloric food and drink? Would you prefer to teach them how to properly live such as yourself? After all, you are the "better" person, right?

    "You are either mendacious or stupid. I don’t know which."

    Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter.

    "Yes, I do know better than a lot of people."

    You believe to know better, yes.

    "Because I have some native intelligence, and I use it. Because I observe the world around me and draw conclusions from it."

    Based on your experiences, which may or may not be accurate. Do you account for your own confirmation biases? Take into consideration information that may turn upside down some of your die-hard points of view? Or are you simply obtuse for the hell of it?

    "I suppose you are happy to be stupid and clueless."

    I am happy to make my own decisions about race and culture. Thanks for caring, my fellow white American.

    "I asked you a question – how would you characterize such influence? You did not answer it. Are you afraid to give an honest answer. So………..how much influence?"

    I clearly responded to your inquiry. I said it is a consequence only to those who believe there is a Jewish conspiracy. If you want to believe Jews are the boogeyman, go for it. Whatever floats your boat.
  57. Mr. Anon says:
    @Corvinus
    "How would YOU characterize that influence? Of no consequence whatsoever? When a group that makes up about 2% of America’s population (self-identified) constitutes about 5% of the House of Representatives, 9% of the U.S. Senate, 33% of the Supreme Court, is that of no consequence?"

    It is a consequence only to those who believe there is a Jewish conspiracy.

    Does the average American look at the ballot and say "Oh, no, there's another Jew running for office, I best be wary because they are out to get me?".

    Does the average American look at a film or television show, note how many Jews helped to create the content, and say "Oh, no, they are indoctrinating me with Cultural Marxism. Yet, I can't help but watch. They have me under a spell""

    "The fact that all of the existing major film studios were founded by (and still largely controlled by) Jews – that has no impact on American society? Every Fed Chairman for the last thirty years – not important?"

    "Certainly not you. You are nobody’s “better”."

    I never made that claim. But you imply that you know "better". Why is that?

    I asked you a question – how would you characterize such influence? You did not answer it. Are you afraid to give an honest answer. So………..how much influence?

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  58. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Your view is ridiculously naive. Who does what has consequences. Personnel is policy. There are such things as ethnic groups, and they do have interests. Some persue them more assiduously than others. If you don't pursue your own, then somebody else will pursue his at your expense.

    And your notion that everything anyone does (such as not take note of other groups jockeying for advantage) must perforce be the result of that person acting in his own interest, is simply idiotic. Americans routinely eat badly and too much - the result is diabetes and heart-disease on a large scale. But - hey - they're exercising their own judgement, so it's all just fine, isn't it.

    You are either mendacious or stupid. I don't know which.

    "But you imply that you know “better”. Why is that?"

    Yes, I do know better than a lot of people. Because I have some native intelligence, and I use it. Because I observe the world around me and draw conclusions from it.

    I suppose you are happy to be stupid and clueless.

    “There are such things as ethnic groups, and they do have interests.”

    You seem fixated on a particular one. Why is that?

    “Some persue them more assiduously than others. If you don’t pursue your own, then somebody else will pursue his at your expense.”

    Depending upon what a person is pursuing, how they pursue it, and whether it is worth that pursuit.

    “And your notion that everything anyone does (such as not take note of other groups jockeying for advantage) must perforce be the result of that person acting in his own interest, is simply idiotic.”

    Individuals look out for their own interests. They also join groups who hold to the same beliefs. Unfortunately, it is the fringe elements that get all the publicity, while the normies are left holding the proverbial bag. You seem to hyperventilate nearly every time someone mentions “vibrant” or “Jew” and wonder what “goodies” they are grabbing with their grubby hands. In reality, you are no different than those groups who jockey for advantage and seek free stuff.

    “Americans routinely eat badly and too much – the result is diabetes and heart-disease on a large scale. But – hey – they’re exercising their own judgement, so it’s all just fine, isn’t it.”

    Exactly. It is their liberty to blow out their arteries. Would you prefer that the government pass laws to curtail their freedom to eat high caloric food and drink? Would you prefer to teach them how to properly live such as yourself? After all, you are the “better” person, right?

    “You are either mendacious or stupid. I don’t know which.”

    Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter.

    “Yes, I do know better than a lot of people.”

    You believe to know better, yes.

    “Because I have some native intelligence, and I use it. Because I observe the world around me and draw conclusions from it.”

    Based on your experiences, which may or may not be accurate. Do you account for your own confirmation biases? Take into consideration information that may turn upside down some of your die-hard points of view? Or are you simply obtuse for the hell of it?

    “I suppose you are happy to be stupid and clueless.”

    I am happy to make my own decisions about race and culture. Thanks for caring, my fellow white American.

    “I asked you a question – how would you characterize such influence? You did not answer it. Are you afraid to give an honest answer. So………..how much influence?”

    I clearly responded to your inquiry. I said it is a consequence only to those who believe there is a Jewish conspiracy. If you want to believe Jews are the boogeyman, go for it. Whatever floats your boat.

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  59. Mr. Anon says:

    “You seem fixated on a particular one. Why is that?”

    No, I am not fixated on it. I am pointing out that it has a lot of power. You seem fixated on averting your gaze. Why is that?

    “Exactly. It is their liberty to blow out their arteries. Would you prefer that the government pass laws to curtail their freedom to eat high caloric food and drink? Would you prefer to teach them how to properly live such as yourself?”

    No, I would prefer that they wise up. Why are you so intent on saying I have no right to say they should? Why are you so insistent that they shouldn’t wise up? Furthermore, your talk about “individuals do this, individuals do that” is misguided. Yes we are individuals. No, we are not “just” individuals. We live as members of a community, and it is in our interest to understand that. There are however people who prefer us to be isolated, de-racinated individuals, merely a marketing demographic of consumers – the better to control and manipulate us.

    And again, when I say “we” and “our”, I am not referring to “you”. You are not a part of any “we” that I recognize.

    “Based on your experiences, which may or may not be accurate. Do you account for your own confirmation biases? Take into consideration information that may turn upside down some of your die-hard points of view?”

    You are the obtuse one. And yes, I do consider other points of view. I used to view the world very different than I did. Maybe someday you will wise up too, but I’m not counting on it, nor do I care. You can go to Hell, as far as I’m concerned. Bon Voyage.

    “I clearly responded to your inquiry. I said it is a consequence only to those who believe there is a Jewish conspiracy. If you want to believe Jews are the boogeyman, go for it. Whatever floats your boat.”

    So they have no power at all? Is that your contention? Did the white minority that ruled apartheid South Africa have no power? Only people who believe in a “white conspiracy” could possibly think that the demographics of who is in positions of power and who isn’t can have any importance at all. Are you really that stupid? Yes, I guess you are.

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    "No, I am not fixated on it. I am pointing out that it has a lot of power."

    Repeatedly showing how a particular group of people has apparent considerable sway and is duping people along the way is a fixation.

    "You seem fixated on averting your gaze. Why is that?"

    I see the Jews, like other groups as who they are--people who generally work to prosper, who are subject, like any other group, to scrutiny by other groups for a host of reasons. Some of the criticism is warranted, and some of the criticism is overly hyped up.

    "No, I would prefer that they wise up."

    Prefer, yes. Demand, no.

    "Why are you so intent on saying I have no right to say they should?"

    Strawman. I never directly or indirectly made that implication. Feel free to insist on your preference.

    "Why are you so insistent that they shouldn’t wise up?"

    If they want to "wise up", they will do so on their own behalf. It's noble of you to care so much about those who have poor eating habits. Perhaps you could educate them.

    "There are however people who prefer us to be isolated, de-racinated individuals, merely a marketing demographic of consumers – the better to control and manipulate us."

    Right, because behind the curtain, someone is pulling on your strings.

    "And again, when I say “we” and “our”, I am not referring to “you”. You are not a part of any “we” that I recognize."

    Of course you are referring to me. I am white American man, such as yourself. There is that fundamental similarity there. You can deny it all you want, if it makes you feel better.

    "Maybe someday you will wise up too, but I’m not counting on it, nor do I care. You can go to Hell, as far as I’m concerned. Bon Voyage."

    You do care, since you bothered to respond. Now, as far as telling someone to go to Hell, that is unChristianlike behavior. You will need more than a ten spot in till this Sunday.

    "So they have no power at all? Is that your contention?"

    Jews, blacks, whites, Asians, native Americans...we all have power and influence.

    "Only people who believe in a “white conspiracy” could possibly think that the demographics of who is in positions of power and who isn’t can have any importance at all."

    Everyone is important in the eyes of the Lord. Do you deny His Truth?

  60. @Lot

    At some point, you have to believe that Jews will realize that they’re not going to treated as non-whites and will decide to join forces with the only group that they can – non-Jewish whites. Well, that or move to Israel.
     
    Full Jews, aside from the ultra-orthodox and hasids, are an elderly and low fertility group.

    With two generations of 50%+ intermarriage rates, Jews have already effectively mostly joined forces with whites. And a lot of the remainder are the religious ones who already vote GOP.

    So it is not a matter of changing minds, which is hard to do in elderly people, but waiting for the rapidly approaching demographic end of the secular Ashkenazi Jew. Already this group, as a share of the white population, has probably gone from ~3.5% to 1%, and as a share of new white births is lower still, maybe even 0.5%.

    Of the people with kids on my facebook, I'd say half jew kids outnumber full jews about 8 to 1.

    With two generations of 50%+ intermarriage rates, Jews have already effectively mostly joined forces with whites. And a lot of the remainder are the religious ones who already vote GOP.

    This is a good thing long run.

    But … these half-Jews don’t seem to be very “join forces with whites” type folks to me. (Not talking about you, but averages.)

    Rather it seems like a good many skew super-SJW. Mattress girl (admittedly a CHEW). Tim Wise.

    I don’t have a huge sample of such folks like you. But my niece definitely has a lot of SJW b.s. loaded into her brain from my sister-in-law. And I bet that’s not atypical. (My brother–whose is left but anti-identity politics–steers her toward more realism, so she isn’t a loon … but the tendencies are there.) If you just told someone was half-Jewish and I had to guess their politics it wouldn’t be “like any regular white person’s”.

    I’m guessing when you get another generation or two in–and as the anti-white stuff ramps up–then you’ll get a real swing.

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  61. Corvinus says:
    @Mr. Anon
    "You seem fixated on a particular one. Why is that?"

    No, I am not fixated on it. I am pointing out that it has a lot of power. You seem fixated on averting your gaze. Why is that?

    "Exactly. It is their liberty to blow out their arteries. Would you prefer that the government pass laws to curtail their freedom to eat high caloric food and drink? Would you prefer to teach them how to properly live such as yourself?"

    No, I would prefer that they wise up. Why are you so intent on saying I have no right to say they should? Why are you so insistent that they shouldn't wise up? Furthermore, your talk about "individuals do this, individuals do that" is misguided. Yes we are individuals. No, we are not "just" individuals. We live as members of a community, and it is in our interest to understand that. There are however people who prefer us to be isolated, de-racinated individuals, merely a marketing demographic of consumers - the better to control and manipulate us.

    And again, when I say "we" and "our", I am not referring to "you". You are not a part of any "we" that I recognize.

    "Based on your experiences, which may or may not be accurate. Do you account for your own confirmation biases? Take into consideration information that may turn upside down some of your die-hard points of view?"

    You are the obtuse one. And yes, I do consider other points of view. I used to view the world very different than I did. Maybe someday you will wise up too, but I'm not counting on it, nor do I care. You can go to Hell, as far as I'm concerned. Bon Voyage.

    "I clearly responded to your inquiry. I said it is a consequence only to those who believe there is a Jewish conspiracy. If you want to believe Jews are the boogeyman, go for it. Whatever floats your boat."

    So they have no power at all? Is that your contention? Did the white minority that ruled apartheid South Africa have no power? Only people who believe in a "white conspiracy" could possibly think that the demographics of who is in positions of power and who isn't can have any importance at all. Are you really that stupid? Yes, I guess you are.

    “No, I am not fixated on it. I am pointing out that it has a lot of power.”

    Repeatedly showing how a particular group of people has apparent considerable sway and is duping people along the way is a fixation.

    “You seem fixated on averting your gaze. Why is that?”

    I see the Jews, like other groups as who they are–people who generally work to prosper, who are subject, like any other group, to scrutiny by other groups for a host of reasons. Some of the criticism is warranted, and some of the criticism is overly hyped up.

    “No, I would prefer that they wise up.”

    Prefer, yes. Demand, no.

    “Why are you so intent on saying I have no right to say they should?”

    Strawman. I never directly or indirectly made that implication. Feel free to insist on your preference.

    “Why are you so insistent that they shouldn’t wise up?”

    If they want to “wise up”, they will do so on their own behalf. It’s noble of you to care so much about those who have poor eating habits. Perhaps you could educate them.

    “There are however people who prefer us to be isolated, de-racinated individuals, merely a marketing demographic of consumers – the better to control and manipulate us.”

    Right, because behind the curtain, someone is pulling on your strings.

    “And again, when I say “we” and “our”, I am not referring to “you”. You are not a part of any “we” that I recognize.”

    Of course you are referring to me. I am white American man, such as yourself. There is that fundamental similarity there. You can deny it all you want, if it makes you feel better.

    “Maybe someday you will wise up too, but I’m not counting on it, nor do I care. You can go to Hell, as far as I’m concerned. Bon Voyage.”

    You do care, since you bothered to respond. Now, as far as telling someone to go to Hell, that is unChristianlike behavior. You will need more than a ten spot in till this Sunday.

    “So they have no power at all? Is that your contention?”

    Jews, blacks, whites, Asians, native Americans…we all have power and influence.

    “Only people who believe in a “white conspiracy” could possibly think that the demographics of who is in positions of power and who isn’t can have any importance at all.”

    Everyone is important in the eyes of the Lord. Do you deny His Truth?

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  62. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yeah, I certainly see that in my own world - and even almost my own life! Secular and even mildly religious Jews inter-marry at huge rates, which only sounds high if you don't see their lives. Even if a Jew grows up in a heavily Jewish area (not typically the case), they're still going to high schools that are majority non-Jewish. They have a lot of non-Jewish friends.

    Then, it's off to college and then after college where Jews literally surrounded by other non-Jewish whites, all of whom are, well, the same as they are. Unless a Jew has a very strong desire to marry another Jew, the odds are overwhelming that they will marry a non-Jew, which is what happens.

    This fact alone should tell Jews something.

    Regarding the older generation, I suspect that you're right because I see a similar thing with old whites (Jews and non-Jews alike). They're a bit like our own flake Corvinus. "We're equal all equal . . ." "I don't see color . . ." etc., etc.

    They grew up in a white country where you could afford to think that way and now live in neighborhoods where they aren't faced with the reality that other groups are tribal. For the older generation, it's just distasteful to even think about such things.

    I was talking with my father-in-law the other day about race issues and he said the usual boilerplate. He even mentioned that when he was a manager, he would always "hire the best guy for the job whatever their race." I said that this was a fine sentiment, but what if the other managers were Indian and they started hiring their cousins over more qualified white guys. Would you still "hire the best guy regardless of race?"

    He just shrugged. I pushed him on it. I said what about politics. What if blacks, Hispanics, Indians and others don't vote for the best guy or even on issues but they vote for politician of their race, which, in fact, they already do. I asked him point blank, "At what point do you start acting like other groups? When do you start hiring the white guy or voting for the party that protects whites just as other groups are doing the same?"

    He just shrugged again (much more agitated) and changed the subject.

    The whole idea of being tribal causes the older generation a lot of angst. The really hate it because it goes against everything that they were taught, how they think about this country (well, what this country once was). They will not give it up.

    I understand them. Because of where I grew up, I was raised in their old world. But I've been an adult in modern America, whereas they were adults before things turned too much. The fact that fairly normal guys like me have changed their worldview so much in the past decade or so says something about what's coming.

    “This fact alone should tell Jews something.”

    It tells them that Jews make up their own mind as to whom they marry, and it’s none of their business.

    “They grew up in a white country where you could afford to think that way and now live in neighborhoods where they aren’t faced with the reality that other groups are tribal.”

    Some members of a group act tribally.

    “I said that this was a fine sentiment, but what if the other managers were Indian and they started hiring their cousins over more qualified white guys. Would you still “hire the best guy regardless of race?”

    Is this situation isolated or perpetual? Because assuredly in some cases you may have Indians who hire Indians, or you may see them hire non-Indians. It depends upon context.

    “What if blacks, Hispanics, Indians and others don’t vote for the best guy or even on issues but they vote for politician of their race, which, in fact, they already do. I asked him point blank, “At what point do you start acting like other groups? When do you start hiring the white guy or voting for the party that protects whites just as other groups are doing the same?”

    He shrugged because you are overplaying the tribal card when it comes to politics. Americans are tribal in their politics considering that over the decades Republicans and Democrats have demonized one another, which only hardens those groups who believe they benefit from or will become disadvantaged by the political party that wins an election.

    The whole idea of being tribal causes the older generation a lot of angst. The really hate it because it goes against everything that they were taught, how they think about this country (well, what this country once was). They will not give it up.

    “The fact that fairly normal guys like me have changed their worldview so much in the past decade or so says something about what’s coming.”

    Some people who share a similar outlook like yourself have “changed their worldview”, which is other than surprising, considering older folks see how the younger folks think and act.

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  63. bartok says:

    If the social price of race realism is no higher than the price for mild culturism like that of Wax and Alexander —

    Still clearly false.

    The price for mild culturism – Prof. Wax still holds a named professorship.

    The price for race realism – ask James Watson.

    The blinding part of “blindsight” is Christian faith in equality. 99.99% of the population holds this faith (all Western religions and non-religions are now English Dissenter / Roundhead, h/t Moldbug). Starting with this religious mode of thought, endless reasons can be found for racial gaps, endless blame can be shifted to Whites, and failed interventions can be endlessly repeated with superficial changes made.

    Faithful individuals can also easily justify their plainly-racist actions including self-segregation – parents seek good schools and thereby segregate, while remaining faithful to equality.

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  64. Svigor says:

    I love “baizuo.” I dunno how it “sounds” in Chinese, but in English it’s really easy to say it in a way that drips with contempt. I imagine a squinty, sneering Chinaman spitting it out – followed by a line or two of unintelligible but just-as-contemptuous Chinese – every time I say it. :)

    My favorite implication is that even mopes in China can plainly see what Boomers and Cucks can’t.

    In Chinese, baizuo heavily hints of “idiot”(白痴) so the humor is reinforced.

    Perfect.

    Bái zuǒ

    Google translate’s “白左” isn’t terrible.

    TY, but I’m going to keep saying it with a falling second syllable; more fun that way.

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  65. Svigor says:

    Secular Jews intermarry at a huge rate. They have one of the lowest birthrates of any group. Their children (well, usually child) tend to not be raised Jewish.

    All this adds up to a rapidly disappearing ethnic group.

    Which kind of cuts against the Jews constituting a group conspiracy to take over the world. Going out of existence is not a good way to accomplish that.

    This is wrong. In proper context, Jewish intermarriage shows Jewish ethnocentrism, relative to Whites:

    1 The context is Jewishness as a national/ethnic group, like Irish, French, German, Polish, etc.
    2 There is no discussion of any other such group’s intermarriage rates. There is no interest or knowledge of the subject at all.
    3 On the other hand, Jews are VERY interested in the subject. So much so that the other such groups are more interested in the Jewish intermarriage rate than they are in their own intermarriage rates. NEVER heard ANYONE talk about any of the other rates, cite any figures, etc., but I have frequently had goyim spit the Jewish figures at me.
    4 The intermarriage rates for other White American groups are so high that there’s no point in keeping track. Every other White group marries every other White group, and the assumption is that any given White is marrying someone NOT of his group.
    5 Given 1-4, the Jewish rate is LOW, relative to that of Whites. This plus Jews’ interest (much of it negative: ever heard of intermarriage with other Whites called a “silent holocaust” by a White group other than Jews? I haven’t.) adds up to evidence of relatively high Jewish ethnocentrism.

    And this is just the tip of the Jewish ethnocentric iceberg, of course. Which is vast, and not all that submerged.

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  66. Svigor says:

    Regarding Jewish Supremacy, I suppose Jews and Shabbos Goy thought the Jews’ position unassailable prior to each of the 109 expulsions throughout history, too. Jews had it great in the Weimar Republic.

    Persons with blindsight can see things, but don’t know that they’re seeing them. They can navigate across a room, avoiding the furniture; but if you ask them, they’ll tell you they can’t see a thing. Their eyes are working and getting data to the motor control centers of the brain, but it’s not being passed on to the conscious executive centers.

    How very interesting. I suspect most of the Jewish race is gifted with a very selective form of blindsight.

    Hell, Ashkenazi Jews act more white than most whites.

    This makes no sense.

    Unfortunately negroes are a lot like tattoos. Easy enough to get but damned hard to get rid of. Even if a new consensus was reached that the negro was a problem and an economic drain on society and it was scientifically provable that the cause was genetic would we be able to do anything different than today? Certainly the negro would resist surrendering his racial privilege and sinking into irrelevance and who would have the stomach to say ‘no more’?

    We would inevitably do many things very differently. The delusion of human group cognitive equality is very much baked into the current cake.

    So, yes. The masses are indeed easily duped. That explains a lot of what is wrong with this world.

    Social trust is the foremost example of the very broad trend of Whitey’s strengths being turned into weaknesses. We are prosperous and civilized because we trust each other, trust our leaders, trust our authorities. We are being murdered because we trust our leaders, trust our authorities.

    It seems a kind of “affirmative action of the mind” is now dominant. It’s not enough to place blacks in elite schools or high up on the corporate ladder or in positions of prestige with the government, regardless of actual qualifications. We now have to pretend the affirmative action which put them there doesn’t exist. Just don’t talk about it. Yes, when defending affirmative action liberals will reluctantly mutter about the “legacy of institutional racism” etc. but for the most part leftists don’t bother with detailed justification for what they do.

    Wouldn’t take much to move Americans to demanding strict quotas. And more detailed categories, right down to making sure Scots-Irish or Protestants aren’t underrepresented, and Jews aren’t overrepresented. That’s the beast stalking the left, not the end of affirmative action.

    And where do secular Jews come from? A lot of them are the descendents of orthodox Jews. And Orthodox Jews tend to have a lot of kids, and tenaciously hold on to thier culture and ethnic identification. The orthodox serve as a bullpen for jewish identity, and there are always lots of relief pitchers. Jewishness, as an ethnic identification, isn’t going away, anymore than “Chinese-ness” is.

    Sort of like a mobile Israel.

    It is a consequence only to those who believe there is a Jewish conspiracy.

    Sort of like how “White Supremacy,” “White Privilege,” “White Guilt,” etc., are only of (not “a,” ignoramus) consequence to those who believe there is a White Conspiracy. Meaning, people who believe there is a White Conspiracy run everything.

    This is why I scroll past 99% of this shitbag’s comments. He’s a lying cunt.

    You are either mendacious or stupid. I don’t know which.

    He’s not very bright, but I think bad wiring is his real problem. But he’s absolutely mendacious, right to the bone.

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  67. Svigor says:

    6 If a White did talk about his group’s “intermarriage rate,” members of his group would look at him funny. If he called it a “silent holocaust” he’d be shunned as a nut anywhere but in WN circles, where he’d be treated like a crazy uncle.

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  68. Svigor says:

    7 Really there is no such thing as intermarriage for other White groups. It doesn’t exist for Whites; only for Jews. That’s telling (as is the failure of Jewry to disclose their INTERRACIAL marriage statistics).

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  69. “It is too often forgotten that when the Europeans gained enough maritime skills and gunpowder to conquer most of the world, they not only colonized the bulk of the world’s people but they colonized the interpretation of history itself. Human history was rewritten to favor them at the expense of other people. The roots of modern racism can be traced to this conquest and colonization.” – Dr. John Henrik Clarke

    “White people think when you love yourself you hate them. No, when I love myself they become irrelevant to me.” – Dr. John Henrik Clarke

    “My main point here is that if you are the child of God and God is a part of you, the in your imagination God suppose to look like you. And when you accept a picture of the deity assigned to you by another people, you become the spiritual prisoners of that other people.” – Dr. John Henrik Clarke

    “Africa and its people are the most written about and the least understood of all of the world’s people. This condition started in the 15th and the 16th centuries with the beginning of the slave trade system. The Europeans not only colonialized most of the world, they began to colonialize information about the world and its people.” – Dr. John Henrik Clarke

    “It’s time for Black people to stop playing the separating game of geography, of where the slave ship put us down. We must concentrate on where the slave ship picked us UP.” – Dr. John Henrik Clarke

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