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[Adapted from the latest Radio Derb, now available exclusively on VDARE.com.]

The phrase “White Supremacist” seems to have settled in among Social Justice Warriors as the favorite term of obloquy for those of us who won’t clap along with the Progressive liturgy. I guess the word “racist” was just worn out from over-use.

“White Supremacist” is of course just totalitarian cuss-talk, like “counter-revolutionary” or “enemy of the people.” You’re not supposed to think about the meaning of the words. You’re just supposed to flip into Two Minutes Hate mode.

I get asked rather often whether I am a White Supremacist. Somewhat more often than that I get accused of being one. When I probe the questioner or accuser, it generally turns out they have looked me up on SJWikipedia. In the entry about me there the Wikifolk quote [January 4, 2019] from my musings in May 2012 about what people with opinions like mine, and VDARE’s, should call ourselves.

I mused: “I actually think ‘White Supremacist’ is not bad semantically.” I pointed out how desperate the wretched of the Earth are to get into white-run countries any way they can. Taking “white-run” to be a “synonym for “white supremacist,” that means that White Supremacy is terrifically popular with nonwhites.

However, a few sentences later, I rejected the term:

We should not let our enemies dictate vocabulary to us … In any case, the Whatever Right contains many separatists—who, far from wanting to lord it over nonwhites, just want to get away from them.

No, “White Supremacist” really won’t do.

In other words I considered the term as a possible self-descriptor, then I rejected it.

Of course, Commiepedia doesn’t tell you I rejected it.

In the end, I favored the term “Dissident Right” instead.

(I have, in fact, just this week, through the offices of a kind friend, acquired title to the internet domain name dissidentright.com, although I haven’t yet figured out what to do with it. Suggestions will be gratefully received).

So no, I’m not a supremacist of any kind. I don’t want to lord it over any other race or ethny; I just want to be left alone, and not see the country I live in swamped by millions of hard-to-assimilate foreigners.

I can’t see what’s wrong with any of that. Although of course I understand that nothing could be further from the minds of our ruling ideologues than leaving people alone.

But here’s a thought experiment. Of all possible supremacies—White Supremacy, Black Supremacy, East Asian Supremacy, Male Supremacy, Ashkenazi Supremacy, Hetero Supremacy…of all the supremacies you can come up with, is there any that I’m somewhat favorably disposed to?

I’m picking my words carefully here. As I said, my preference is to be left alone. I don’t want to be bossed around, and I don’t want to boss anyone else around. In all honesty, though, there are bound to be some supremacies that fall more gently on my ear than others.

But all right, I’ll ‘fess up. If I were a supremacist of any kind—which, once again, I’m really not!—I’d be an Anglo-Saxon Supremacist.

Let me enlarge on that. I’m looking at this survey from just over a year ago, a worldwide survey done by the Gallup organization, of how many people want to go live in another country, and which country they most want to move to.

The report lists the top 22 “desired destinations.”[Which countries do migrants want to move to?, by Charlotte Edmond, World Economic Forum, November 22, 2017] The U.S.A. is of course number one. Canada is number three, the U.K. number four. Australia is number six. New Zealand, somewhat to my surprise, is at number seventeen, in between Russia and China. That’s likely just ignorance, though. New Zealand’s a small, quiet, out-of-the-way place; much of the world’s population, I’m sure, has never heard of it.

New Zealand notwithstanding, that’s a pretty impressive showing for what John O’Sullivan has called the Anglosphere.

Surveying the world across the past century or so, in fact, I think a fair-minded person would have to say that a human being’s best shot at liberty, political stability, and modest middle-class prosperity has been in the Anglosphere. So the preferences recorded in the Gallup poll reflect worldwide awareness of that.

You can of course point to some blots, but many fewer in the Anglosphere than elsewhere. I’ll give you the Amritsar massacre if you give me Stalin’s Ukraine Famine, … and so on.

Political stability? France is on its fifth republic since 1789, with a couple of empires and a monarchy in there, too. Germany…the less said the better. The current constitution of China dates from 1982. It’s their fourth since the commies took over in 1949. Russia, Italy, Spain, … you get the idea.

So let’s hear it for the Anglosphere!

In this context I’m encouraged to see the rise of the CANZUK movement. That’s “CANZUK” in all capitals. It stands for “Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the U.K.” The idea, which seems to be a spin-off from the Brexit debate, is for free trade and freedom of movement between the CANZUK nations.

The promoters of CANZUK—which by the way has a Facebook group—insist firmly that they do not want political union or a common currency. They only want free trade and free immigration among themselves.

It’s not a new idea. I remember in the early 1970s, when Britain was negotiating to enter the European Union, that some similar arrangement was put forward by people opposed to entry.

Back then, though, with the British Empire still bright in the collective memory, a CANZUK-style alliance carried too much a flavor of imperial nostalgia. It was old, fuddy-duddy, geezerish—promoted by florid, white-mustached retired Indian Army colonels living in old manor houses with tiger-skin rugs. The EU, at that time still called the Common Market, was new—shiny, spiffy, up-to-date, modern, cool!

Now, forty years on, things look quite different. The retired Indian Army types are dead and forgotten. The British Empire is one with Nineveh and Tyre. The EU is seen plainly as the Franco-German bankers’ racket it always was. This could be the CANZUK moment.

ORDER IT NOW

The document I’m mainly drawing on here was posted at quora.com in August 2018 by Philip Yip, who describes himself as Administrator for the CANZUK Facebook Group. [Why don’t the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the UK form an Anglosphere union?, Quora.com, August 25, 2018] Yip, I note in passing, is a Cantonese surname, so presumably Philip Yip is of Hong Kong Chinese descent—mildly interesting by itself in this context.

You naturally find yourself thinking: What about the U.S.A.? Could we get included in this free trade, free movement, English-speaking alliance? Could CANZUK become CANZUKUS?

Americans seem to respond positively to the idea. Quote from Mr. Yip: “I have seen on the likes of Reddit many Americans portray a great interest and enthusiasm for CANZUK.”

There are problems, though. Healthcare, for example. For free movement of people within the alliance you need reciprocity in healthcare coverage. Our healthcare system, although considerably socialized, is much less socialized than those of the CANZUK countries.

Another negative I think, although Mr. Yip doesn’t mention it, is the suspicion among the CANZUK peoples that, given the population and resources of the U.S.A. by comparison with theirs, the U.S.A. would be too dominant in the alliance and start setting the rules and overriding the interests of the others.

Our population is two and a half times the four CANZUK countries combined. We’d be the bear at the CANZUKUS picnic.

Also, alas, you have to wonder whether Britain, maybe Britain and Canada both, are now sunk too deep in multiculturalism for the thing to work.

Does New Zealand, for example, really want an inflow of British Muslim rape gangs or black British drug dealers?

For all that, the CANZUK alliance is an interesting idea. I’m curious to see if it goes anywhere. Probably that will depend on this year’s Brexit result. I shall keep tabs and report back.

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

For years he’s been podcasting at Radio Derb, now available at VDARE.com for no charge. His writings are archived at JohnDerbyshire.com.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Without checking I’m pretty sure NZ is actually bigger than the UK.

    I like the CANZUK idea.

    The thought has occurred to me when considering CANZUK, that with the UK population being considerably bigger than Canada, NZ and Australia; Kiwis, Canadians and Aussies might think that the UK would dominate such an arrangement. Adding in the USA, of course, creates the USA being the dominant member.

    One of the problems with the EU, is that other EU members cannot be trusted to guard their borders, or not to hand out passports to anyone that asks for them. I’d probably trust Australia and NZ, but I’m not sure about the USA and Canada, and would Australia, NZ, Canada in turn trust the UK?

    Also, it seems, concerns that Brexit is really a Neo-liberal stitch-up, and as soon as we are out of the EU (if ever) hedge fund types will sell the NHS to Donald Trump is something I keep seeing (EU) Remainers bang on about. I think it would be electoral suicide and so very unlikely, but as it keeps being mentioned, perhaps it is a genuine fear.

    I think generally speaking, the British Establishment is anti-American and any link with the USA would make the BBC/Guardian axis of evil apoplectic, BBC/Guardian types would much rather we were administered by Franco-German bureaucrats as an offshore outpost of the EU empire.

    Aussies and Kiwis don’t occur to me (and I’d guess most British people) as proper foreigners – a bit like the Irish (but without the occasional, and sometime murderous anti-Britishness) they have their own state, but the cultural distance is tiny. Canadians are a little bit further distant, and Americans even more so, but nowhere near as culturally distant as our neighbours just 22 miles across the Channel. So yes, teaming up once again with our old and loyal mates seems natural and obvious.

  2. There is no such thing as a white supreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemist.
    I’ve never seen one.
    Richard Spencer has never said that whites are supreme.
    Mike Enoch has never said that whites are supreme.
    David Duke doesn’t claim that whites are “supreme.”

    The term is absurd because whites lack the ethnocentrism to be supremacists.

    Only one group is hyper-ethnocentric and has earned the label of supremacists.

    • LOL: byrresheim
    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @anon
  3. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    racebait >>> deadline >>> word count >>> another self-referential column

    Did NR fire Mr. Derbyshire for redundancy?

    • Troll: Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @anon
  4. “Does New Zealand, for example, really want an inflow of British Muslim rape gangs or black British drug dealers?”

    Unfortunately basically this. The whole project was killed the moment the Windrush docked, and the first Mirpuri stepped into a cotton mill in the English north.

    Having said that, I don’t think it’s occurred yet to anyone in NZ that any of these Sudanese lads causing trouble in Melbourne can get on a plane and mess up shit in Auckland if they wish (probably hasn’t occurred to them yet either), but at some stage civil servants in Wellington will start to wonder about what the liberal policies Australians have towards African migrants means for New Zealand and the open borders with Australia.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
  5. Derb, why would we want to form any sort of “Anglospheric Union” with the UK or Canada?
    The UK is lost to its ruling class’s political correctness and Islamophilia. Canada is not far behind.
    Australia is still somewhat okay, and maybe New Zealand, but the UK and Canada are right out.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Wally
  6. Truth says:

    But here’s a thought experiment. Of all possible supremacies—White Supremacy, Black Supremacy, East Asian Supremacy, Male Supremacy, Ashkenazi Supremacy, Hetero Supremacy…of all the supremacies you can come up with, is there any that I’m somewhat favorably disposed to?

    I think Tillie will be answering this one shortly.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  7. Derb, may I suggest a lexicon of dissident right concepts and terminology? Back around 2016, there was a rash of articles in the idiot MSM which purported to explain “alt right” terms, which were of course completely clueless, concentrating mostly on ridiculous “Pepe the Frog” mems. I myself acquired an “altright” related URL but decided against using it because the NPC liars had conflated “alt right” with “white supremacist.”

  8. A sense of superiority does not wash over the sentient person who notices that people of some other race or ethnicity are inferior. Compassion sometimes, concern, pity, never superiority.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  9. If I was an Aussie or New Zealander, I’d guard my independence and sovereignty at all costs.

    Lucky bastards have thousands of miles of ocean to protect them and don’t need any walls.

    The U.K. had the advantage of a pretty good moat but has mostly thrown that away.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @silviosilver
  10. I was born in ’44 so I remember when the US was a white country and men were in charge outside the home. Segregation was enforced by Jim Crow in the south and red lining in the north. A woman couldn’t get a loan. Homosexuals were persecuted. I wish I could take today’s so called left back in time to show them what white male supremacy really looked like. By their rhetoric you would think things had gotten worse.

    I have always been a straight white American male. I have been privileged by the system I was born into but I have never been a racist or a white supremacist. If those who hate me for my color or gender get bored with calling me racist or white supremacist they can just be honest and call me nigger. That’s where they want me. Looking at my shoes as I shuffle to the back of the bus. It won’t happen. Black folks won’t do it and neither will I.

    • Replies: @anon
  11. Yip, I note in passing, is a Cantonese surname, so presumably Philip Yip is of Hong Kong Chinese descent

    lol, totally Anglo-Saxon! But I guess as long as one can still bash frogs, Huns and dagoes (for the instability of their political order, their illiberalism, their “racism” or whatever), senile Anglotriumphalists like Derbyshire will be fine with Jews, Chinese and Subcontinentals lording it over English proles.

    Also, alas, you have to wonder whether Britain, maybe Britain and Canada both, are now sunk too deep in multiculturalism for the thing to work.

    As if the US wasn’t, totally delusional.
    Derbyshire really must be one of the dumbest writers on Unz review.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @utu
  12. Funny how a NATO skeptic is floating the idea of some association of WASP countries. Who died and made you Cecil Rhodes?

    We need fewer entanglements with these gun-grabbing arses, not more.

  13. foulkes says:

    alas, you have to wonder whether Britain, maybe Britain and Canada both, are now sunk too deep in multiculturalism for the thing to work.

    Canada is for sure. The two largest English-speaking cities , Vancouver and Toronto, are majority non-white and resemble pre -1990 Canada as much as London represents pre-1990 England.
    Kleptocratic Chinese own much of the commercial real estate in these cities.
    Also there a huge amount of South Asians, mostly Sikhs but not much better than Muslims. Plus a lot of Somalians and other undesirable refugees

    The current federal government would put the EU parliament to shame on the loony left scale.
    We actually have a Somalian immigration minister. And Justine is a trust fund kid snowboard instructor turned prime minister

  14. Our population is two and a half times the four CANZUK countries combined.

    I want to commend Derbyshire for being mathematically correct all the way, including on his opinion pieces, and not writing ”two and a half times larger”.

    This is a man of principle.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  15. @Hypnotoad666

    Lucky bastards have thousands of miles of ocean to protect them and don’t need any walls.

    Considering how close they are, it’s interesting that there are so few Indonesians here. There’s a bazillion Asians, but very few of them are Indonesian. (I’m sure someone will highlight how ‘racist’ that is sooner or later, of course.)

    The U.K. had the advantage of a pretty good moat but has mostly thrown that away.

    Last I checked, race-replacement in Australia was more advanced than in the UK, actually.

    Given that, it’s astonishing how ‘hideously white’ mainstream television remains, though.

    • Replies: @CJ
    , @Wally
    , @Wizard of Oz
  16. The economics don’t work. Distance matters, even in services. Canzaus might work but the UK is too far away. The Ottawa conference couldn’t pull it all together from 1931-1956 which is why the UK turned to the EU in the first place.

    That said there is nothing to stop the formation of a free movement area now with or without Brexit. The EU does not stop the UK doing it. Free movement helps to enable trade in services.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  17. Germany…the less said the better.

    The British have started two wars against Germany and lost both of those wars to the US, throwing the whole of Eastern Europe to the wolves in the process.

    Get over it.

    • Replies: @Leon
    , @Achilles Wannabe
  18. Anon[168] • Disclaimer says:

    This is the vision that should have been adopted by George III in the 1760s – the British Empire as a customs union, military alliance and free migration zone for the WASP tribe.

    The priorities should have been:

    End the slave trade and repeal the 1740 Naturalization Act, to ensure that the British Isles, North America and the British Caribbean islands would remain lebensraum for the Anglo-Saxon peoples;

    Liquidate the East India Company and the Royal Africa Company to nip tropical imperialism in the bud;

    And avoid civil war by –

    1. Scrupulously respecting the exclusive right of internal taxation and the internal autonomy of the self-governing dependencies;

    2. Adding a third house of parliament, whose approval would be necessary for all acts relating to migration, foreign policy, trade, external taxes, and the management of those territories not yet part of any self-governing dependency, (but not for matters purely internal to Great Britain), with members appointed by the legislatures of the self-governing dependencies in proportion to their share of the WASP population outside Britain. In the short term, this third house would have ensured the Americans, though greatly outnumbered by the British, a veto over policies inimical to their interests, and kept at bay the dreaded high internal taxes of Britain, thus overcoming their fundamental objections to being represented in the House of Commons. In the long term, the exclusively British composition of the Lords and Commons would have given a similar security to the British when the demographic balance eventually inevitably tipped the other way, thus easing fears of the mother country eventually becoming a mere satellite of her own colonies.

    The most intelligent and patriotic statesmen of the time, such as Benjamin Franklin and William Pitt, were groping in this direction in the quarter century before the war of independence.

    The possibility was destroyed and the Anglo-Saxon people sundered by George III’s anti-American Toryism on the one hand, and proto-leftist Boston radicals such as James Otis on the other.

    Both the British and the Americans became saddled with conceptions of the state ripe for hijacking by multiculturalists – Enlightenment rhetoric in America waiting to be misinterpreted as a mandate for a “proposition nation”, and British imperialism hurtling towards Sadiq Khan via Benjamin Disraeli.

    The end result will be WASPs reduced to 3rd rate citizenship in both their original homeland and in the settler societies they founded, forever ruled by a bitterly hostile Askenazi Jewish elite and outnumbered by a polyglot population of Asians, Africans, Muslims and mestizos – unless a drastic change of course is taken, soon.

    After the necessary drastic change has been successful in Britain, America, Australia, etc., CANZUKUS would indeed be a mutually beneficial alliance and a noble monument to Franklin, Pitt and the path not taken.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @sb
    , @Hank Yobo
    , @MEFOBILLS
  19. @Truth

    LOL!!! Of course there’s a term for supremacy. I like to use Western supremacy.

  20. “…I’m not a supremacist of any kind.” Yes you are. You are an Asian supremacist. Here’s an article you wrote stating that Asians are smarter than whites (they are not): https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Anon
    , @Logan
  21. As late as the 1970s boys growing up in Australia were still reading ‘Look & Learn’ magazine, getting the ‘Eagle’ annual for Christmas, and reading all about the heroes of English history. The Empire was gone but the blood connection lived on and thus there was still a common culture.

    That’s all gone now. Completely killed by the twin forces of mass non-White immigration and the anti-White narrative.

    I think in Australia the 1980s was the transition decade. That’s when the pro-multicultural/anti-British types gained institutional power. Since then we’ve been taught to hate our own history.

    What links the Anglosphere is, first, the story of England, and second, the story of the British Empire. But the British Empire especially has now been declared a ‘bad thing’.

    Even if the anti-White sentiment could be turned around, what do the hordes of Asians and other non-Whites flooding into Australia care about English history? They don’t even care about White Australian history.

    • Replies: @Waitemata
    , @Cagey Beast
  22. peterAUS says:
    @Philip Owen

    The economics don’t work. Distance matters, even in services. Canzaus might work but the UK is too far away. The Ottawa conference couldn’t pull it all together from 1931-1956 which is why the UK turned to the EU in the first place.

    Pretty much. Second sentence settles it.

  23. Waitemata says:
    @Emblematic

    All this is also true of New Zealand. If the pioneers who came here in the nineteenth century had known that all their efforts would result in population replacement of both Pakeha (Europeans) and Maori they would have jumped on the next tall ship home to Mother England.Chinese now outnumber Maori.

  24. Anon[103] • Disclaimer says:

    $PLC is gangster organization

  25. swamped says:

    CANZUKUS already has an unsavoury precedent: the so-called Five Eyes i.e. FVEY shadowy intelligence alliance between these same five ‘anglosphere’ countries, which is used to skirt domestic restrictions in order to spy on one another’s citizens and swap info. Call it Deep State Supremacy. If only the fatuous SJWs were as concerned about that as they are about illusory ‘white supremacy’. So if you “just want to be left alone”, you might want to get out of the anglosphere for a while.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  26. J1234 says:

    If I were a supremacist of any kind—which, once again, I’m really not!—I’d be an Anglo-Saxon Supremacist.

    I don’t know about supremacy, but if there was ever a master race of Europe, it was probably the Italians, or the Italic people, or maybe more correctly, the early Latins. The Roman Empire, the Italian Renaissance and the fact that Italy today has the highest (or close to the highest) aggregate IQ of any European country all sort of make my case. For centuries, the boundaries of Europe were more or less defined – in part – by how far the influence of Italian art, architecture and fashion extended. Eventually Italian influence was overshadowed somewhat by places like Vienna, but it remained important.

    The Italians have also produced the most stylish and attractive sports cars in the world, and in my (warped) mind, that also makes my case. The English also had some great looking sports cars, and they had the largest Empire in the history of the world. The Germans made great looking sports/luxury cars, too, and they rival Italy on IQ. There seems to be a correlation between the production of nice looking sports cars and influence in the world. By the way, I’m not Italian.

  27. @gabriel alberton

    “two-and-a-half times larger” is three-and-a-half times as large. Both mean 350%

    • Replies: @gabriel alberton
  28. Will Thomas Frank be writing What’s the Matter With CANZUKUS?

  29. @attilathehen

    Yes you are. You are an Asian supremacist. Here’s an article you wrote stating that Asians are smarter than whites (they are not):

    They don’t have gay marriage. Whites are amazingly stupid on that score:

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  30. llloyd says: • Website

    It never crosses John Derbyshire’s mind that he is among the millions of “hard to assimilate foreigners in America”. The point about New Zealand’s low rating for most favoured country to emigrate to, I think it is partly as he says, it is not globally well known. But being below Russia is quite a surprise. Quite as understood in American English as John appears to use it. Why does anyone want to emigrate to Russia? I couldn’t get out quick enough. If there was another questionaire, second most favoured country, New Zealand’s standing would be near the top. The New Zealand passport is very popular and gives its citizens permanent right of living in Australia. As for New Zealand itself, it is cold and damp, a mostly ignorant population, very serious racial problems, high violent crimes such as the recent Grace Millane case. This appears now to be seeping though global ignorance.

    • Replies: @renfro
  31. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    Going back over 40 years, but there used to be a 12 month waiting period for Aussies to receive the Dole in New Zealand.
    If that’s still in place, that would stop any over ambitious Sudanese Aussies in their tracks.
    My memory of New Zealand is that it is a cold, poor Country, without much work at the best of times.

  32. sb says:
    @Anon

    Speaking of lebensraum

    If there hadn’t been American independence there wouldn’t be an Australia and New Zealand ( in their present form )
    Which seems important to an Australian

    (And of course there wouldn’t also have been a French Revolution )

    For what it’s worth I recall feeling much closer to the other Anglosphere countries the further back I can recall and expect that as time goes on the distance will only increase .
    We’re all on our own .

    I see Australia as being the net loser in any CANZUK(US) arrangement as people in will be much MUCH larger than people out . I’d like to reduce or at least stabilize our population , Bigger is not Better

  33. Given its demography the US would be the most unwelcome member of such an alliance. So many undesirables ready to migrate, or transmigrate, to the Land of Oz and Midde-Earth.

  34. @Reg Cæsar

    Exactly, it is, you’re correct, and so is Derbyshire. (I wasn’t being sarcastic, but was probably unclear)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  35. @Reg Cæsar

    The gay marriage issue was caused by the cuckiness of Western Europe.

    I can oppose gay marriage not just on religious terms, but also on biological. I believe in biology first, beliefs second. This is why I’m not a white nationalist. I am a Western nationalist. We have to see what makes up the West. It is not blacks/Asians/Jews/Muslims. Then we look at IQ. The Lebanese Christian Nassim Taleb refuses to deal with the reality of IQ. IQ has a biological basis.

    Biologically, men and women are a natural match. Homosexuals are unnatural in their actions. People always blab about natural products, foods, and nature. Yet they can’t deal with the unnaturalness of homos. I see homos as biological defects. They must be segregated. If it become possible to identify homosexuality in the fetus, they must be aborted.

    Also, now that the Catholic Church has been taken over by homos, preaching against homosexuality has been almost banned. The RCC has other problems, blacks/Asians. A consistent belief system based on biology, IQ, its relation to race will have to be developed.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Stan d Mute
  36. MBlanc46 says:

    The English-speaking peoples. Churchill’s series with that title had quite an influence on me during my youth in the 1960s. It’s all ancient history now. Whatever the future of the English-speaking countries, it’s very likely not a good one.

  37. Hail says: • Website

    The phrase “White Supremacist” seems to have settled in among Social Justice Warriors

    – Ngram suggests the phrase emerged in the late 1980s and began a steady ascent through at least the mid 1990s before perhaps leveling off (uncapitalized);

    – The capitalized phrase “White Supremacist” continued steady use-expansion well into the 2000s (capitalization of a term is a sign that it has ‘arrived’);

    – A search of Chicago Tribune archives (to choose a paper at random) shows the same late-1980s origin and, more recently, a distinct revival in the 2015 to 2018 period (recent peak is 2017, at 218 appearances in the newspaper; peak is 900 appearances in 1999; the late 2010s appearance-rate equals the early 1990s rate for the Chicago Tribune).

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
  38. Hail says: • Website

    The promoters of CANZUK […] only want free trade and free immigration among themselves.

    Would (have) work(ed) in the days when each of those countries had self-confident White super-majorities (minus some natives on the margins).

    Today, could well end up nothing but an elaboroate scam for Chinese to find a backdoor into one of those other countries named, and/or (eventually) neighbors thereto.

    ______

    posted at quora.com in August 2018 by Philip Yip, who describes himself as Administrator for the CANZUK Facebook Group. […] Yip, I note in passing, is a Cantonese surname, so presumably Philip Yip is of Hong Kong Chinese descent—mildly interesting by itself in this context.

  39. @English Yobbo

    “any link with the USA would make the BBC/Guardian axis of evil apoplectic” – all the more reasons to do it!

    Having said that, if I were an ANZ citizen I would share the concern about the UK exporting its muslim rape gangs and yardie drug dealers.

    CANZUKUS is a non-starter because in a couple of decades the US will be a third-world country (once the white population becomes a minority) so why would the others want to be dragged down with it?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  40. @attilathehen

    People always blab about natural products, foods, and nature. Yet they can’t deal with the unnaturalness of homos.

    We can’t deal with the unnaturalness of contraception, either. Go to your local organic food co-op and try selling them on Natural Family Planning.

  41. @gabriel alberton

    (I wasn’t being sarcastic, but was probably unclear)

    I wasn’t correcting you, I was agreeing with you. Sorry if I was unclear.

    This point has been a bête noire of mine for some time now.

  42. Should the Antipodes demur from CANZUCKUS, we’d be left with CUK-US.

    That’s less than appealing.

  43. Hank Yobo says:
    @Anon

    The 1754 Albany Plan of Union didn’t work, did it?

  44. anon[355] • Disclaimer says:

    Actually if Canada had been smart it would have severed all ties with the UK many years ago. Canada opened its borders to non-whites in the 1960’s because of pressure from the Commonwealth (where’s the “common”? / where’s the “wealth”?). Had Canada followed Ireland’s lead in 1948 it would have been far better off today. Like Ireland Canada should have sat out WW2. Let London make whatever pledges it wants to too Poland but do your own fighting.

    • Replies: @Pontius
  45. dfordoom says: • Website

    For all that, the CANZUK alliance is an interesting idea. I’m curious to see if it goes anywhere.

    It’s a terrible idea. Hopefully it will go straight into the trash can.

    Speaking as a white Australian of Anglo-Celtic heritage I want nothing whatever to do with Britain. Or the U.S. either. And why would anyone want anything to do with Canada?

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  46. dfordoom says: • Website
    @English Yobbo

    So yes, teaming up once again with our old and loyal mates seems natural and obvious.

    The problem is that here in Australia we don’t really think of the British as old and loyal mates. I’m just trying to recall some occasion on which Britain has demonstrated its loyalty to its old mates. I’m still thinking and I’m still not coming up with anything.

  47. New Zealand probably got a boost with Jackson’s LOTR movies.

    • Replies: @NZLex
  48. NZLex says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    The bastard! We like being not very well known… and being thought of as cold and unappealing. Keeps the scoundrels out. But if I had to leave my beloved country for some reason, I would move to either Russia or China. I also agree with the above person – five eyes is bad enough, no thanks on the CUCKUSNZ or whatever it is. I think every good thing possible from the UK has already been received, thanks very much – and every bad thing from the USA and Australia!

  49. the article is bollocks

  50. @dfordoom

    Watched Gallipoli too many times?

  51. @dfordoom

    Maybe we could give them back Justin Bieber.

  52. Art Deco says:
    @foulkes

    And Justine is a trust fund kid snowboard instructor turned prime minister

    It’s weird how the peer review function in American and Canadian politics seems to have collapsed with the connivance of the general public. We got a dilettante ticket-puncher and Canada got a lapsed high school teacher turned serial grad-school dropout. For Liberal Party sachems to have gifted him a seat in parliament and then put him in the opposition leader’s chair is bizarre; that they sold him to the Canadian electorate more so.

    • Replies: @CJ
  53. CJ says:
    @silviosilver

    Indonesians don’t seem to be all that eager to leave Indonesia. For a country pushing 300 million population you don’t find many of them elsewhere. Contrast that with the (population 100 million) Filipinos who are widely expatriated.

    • Replies: @jim jones
    , @anon
  54. CJ says:
    @Art Deco

    Can’t disagree with your point, but when the Liberals made Justin their leader they seemed far from power. They had been reduced to a few dozen members in the then 320-seat Parliament, and looked set to finish third after the Conservatives and New Democrats in the 2015 election. Then NDP support collapsed in Quebec and elsewhere after their leader kneecapped himself on the burqa/niqab issue during the election campaign. The Conservative base had tired of Stephen Harper (our George W. Bush IMO but that’s another post) and many stayed home. Justin’s parliamentary majority was accomplished with 39% of the vote.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  55. I have been promoting Anglo-Saxon Supremacy at Steve Sailer’s for years, welcome aboard Mr. Derbyshire!

    Anglo-Saxons, their civilizations in general and in particular their military, corporate and educational institutions are wildly, overwhelmingly superior to all that came before, so much so that serious people need concern themselves with little else when contemplating this world apart from their families and livelihoods.

    Just to clarify and head off the inevitable (and understandable) objections by other white folks who don’t consider themselves “WASPs”, what is meant by “Anglo-Saxon” in the New World includes immigrants who were intended to and did indeed integrate seamlessly with the original Anglo-Saxon founders and settlers of English North America (including Canada): continental Germanics (actual Germans, Dutch and Scandinavians), the storied “Scots-Irish” of the South, and smatterings of tribal cousins who made it to the New World like the French (Franks), northern Italians (Lombards), and Castilian Spanish (Visigoths).

    Mr. Derbyshire in his linked article from VDare tallies up the raw numbers for “British (Anglo-Saxon-Celtic) and their Germanic cousins” as a majority of the American people today, therefore accept no “proposition nation” as a substitute for the genuine Anglo-Saxon nation known as the United States of America!

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  56. My advice to anyone – esp my kin back in Ireland: AVOID ASSOCIATION WITH BRITFAGS IN GREAT CUCKSTAIN.

    I live in Londonistan. A massive story over the weekend about a T-Bout on a suburban train. But of course the Lugenpresse gave ZERO DESCRIPTION of the fugitive on the run after going wild with a knife and killing YT on a train.

    I trawled all the MScuM TV channels, radio, everything. Yet not even the pigs gave a description of the dindu couple (wife sheltered him). And a description would’ve been a dead giveaway in wealthy Surrey.

    So dirty orange Britfags would rather let a dindu go on a killing spree than give the public an accurate view of reality, just so long as they can cheer their African team with creepy homoerotic songs about Southgate, and take the red scab fist up their behind their fellow White People.

  57. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Watched Gallipoli too many times?

    Amusingly and oddly enough I’ve never actually seen that movie! I know, and I call myself an Australian. The Adventures of Barry McKenzie is probably closer to capturing my feelings about the English.

    My granddad was at Gallipoli though, so there could be a Gallipoli factor in play. My granddad had an absolutely epic hatred of the English.

    I wouldn’t mind the English if they’d show some spine and stop being America’s lapdog. That’s why I hate Churchill. Not for Gallipoli, not for Singapore, but for turning Britain into America’s whore. Special Relationship indeed.

    Maybe I’m not being fair to Derbyshire but sometimes he comes across (to me at least) as one of those pathetic Englishmen who actually believe that Churchillian English Speaking Peoples and Special Relationship poppycock.

  58. Leon says:
    @byrresheim

    Tremendous. A complete and utter misunderstanding of European history.

    I can get over this lack of knowledge, but I doubt Byressheim ever will.

  59. @HunInTheSun

    Derbyshire is an Asian supremacist. He has written that Asians are smarter than whites. They are not. He has a Chinese wife and family.

  60. @dfordoom

    It is worth seeing. (Not just because Mel Gibson was totally hot and not barking mad then.) There is a scene towards the end when the camera is panning over the hands of the men in the trenches. You don’t see facial expressions: just hands. It’s one of the most stunning pieces of filmmaking I’ve ever seen.

    • Replies: @sb
    , @RVBlake
  61. jim jones says:
    @CJ

    Filipinos are taught English from an early age so it is easier for them to integrate in the West.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    , @anon
  62. @English Yobbo

    I think generally speaking, the British Establishment is anti-American …

    The British Establishment is wildly pro-American, they just don’t like the half of America that voted for Trump. Along with the rest of the Anglosphere, the Brit Establishment is a coalition of self-interested people who loosely follow the Whig, Fabian Socialist or crypto-Trotskyite traditions.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
  63. @Harry_the_Horrible

    If anything, it’s the US that’s the write-off. America is the cultural leper colony, not Canada or the UK. “Le 56% face” is real.

  64. @foulkes

    Exactly. We have a militantly anti-White, anti-male government in Ottawa, led by a candy-coated pixie, and here we have people talking about CANZUKUS? Insanity.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  65. @Emblematic

    – This is the story in Canada too, except for the Mother Country being “England” rather than the nations native to Great Britain and Ireland.

    De facto and de jure multiculturalism means we can’t speak of ourselves in the same way. We can’t metaphorically get out the family photo album because it will make all the adopted kids feel bad and Mummy & Daddy kind of like them more than us anyway.

  66. Oh go on then, you’re simply awful (/dick emery)

    Of all possible supremacies—White Supremacy, Black Supremacy, East Asian Supremacy, Male Supremacy, Ashkenazi Supremacy, Hetero Supremacy…of all the supremacies you can come up with

    I prefer , because it’s stunningly apparent what is desired by all its assailants …
    “The Protestant Ascendancy”.

    We have a wee motto, by the way.
    “No Surrender!”
    Can’t give you a steer on what that might mean.

  67. @jim jones

    Filipinos BELIEVE that they are taught “English” from an early age.
    The slightest experience of any Amazon callcentre dispels this within 30 seconds. I am roundly derided by their operatives despite having total English ancestry from the 13th century (ongoing). Perhaps I have a difficult regional accent?

  68. anon[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @jim jones

    This probably has something to do with the fact that America foolishly took over the place for almost the first half of the 20th century. One more bad consequence of the very stupid (and totally unnecessary) Spanish-American war. (100% started by America by the way). We also acquired the train wreck Puerto Rico too.

  69. @dfordoom

    Well that’s because your new chums ain’t around no more.
    Great-grandad went off to NZ because the Owners had resorted to lockouts from the pit as a surefire break-the-bastards strategy, for years leading up to the Big Fight.

    Navvied the railways all up and down both islands, still have photos of him and a couple of mates in big hats, and a lost one of the weird little wagon with a chimney, in front of giant palmtree things and the 7 little kids in dresses (even the boys? WTF?) posed by height by the wheel.
    Blackball/Ahaura I think, but there was some sort of a colliers’ dispute going on, so naturally the pommy ex-miner navvies sided with the pitmen.

    Then the Mother Country decided (oddly) to honour its treaty obligations to a shower of garlic munchers. So he got called back and done up a treat by a whisky-addled turkish bloke name of Mustafa Kemal, on top of Chunuk Bair (?sp.) along with all his Pals from Lancashire. There may have been survivors, but my dad, mum, cousins and so on never heard. Town was stone dead from there on, just widows and orphans till the next war when their kids were old enough to get conscripted.
    6th Bn, Loyal N Lancs. if anyone’s got any info? They all just vanished, like magic.

  70. sb says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Yes Gallipoli was a fine film as was also The Adventures of Barry Mckenzie -pity Australian films nowadays are just so …what’s the word ?…..ah yes …shit .

    Meanwhile I can’t see too many Australians wanting an open border with anyone . The country would be overwhelmed . Already having a more or less open border with New Zealand doesn’t seem to be working out so well these days -although it was acceptable in the past when both countries were overwhelmingly Anglo-Celtic -and the other countries mentioned are even more foreign and increasingly so

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  71. CANZUK sounds good – we could call it the Gammon Alliance. :p

    We don’t want the USA, though. Maybe we’d take Singapore for some Diversity.

  72. anon[571] • Disclaimer says:
    @CJ

    Indonesians have very low intelligence, and their government likes it that way.
    Bottom line: The vast majority of them couldn’t make it outside of Indonesia.

  73. anon[571] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    1972 was the last year any numbers of migrants arrived in Australia from the U.K..
    150 years of British migration ended 2 generations ago, and the non stop public whining of venal, drunken Irish Catholics has tended to drown out the awareness of Australia’s English heritage.

  74. anon[571] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    Watched Gallipoli too many times?

    Sounds to me like Rosamond Vincy is suggesting you’re a bit light on your feet, dfordoom.

    The Poms who migrated to Australia after 1945 included a lot of dregs, but the stock had been better previously.
    Churchill was loathed by Gallipoli veterans and men in the 7th Division who had been fodder in his illegal invasion of Greece in 1941, but outside of that, he was well regarded in Australia by veterans of both Wars, and I’d say England was regarded as the Mother Country in Australia at least up to the mid 1980s.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  75. Jake says:

    The Derb, being an Anglo supremacist, should stop whining about the fact that every country in the Anglosphere is heading as fast as ti can to replace the white trash its Elites have always despised with hordes of non-whites and non-Christians.

    That, rather obviously, is inherent in the basic culture.

  76. It seems as though the CANZUKUS proposal has met with less than overwhelming support. I sure as hell don’t want it. As an Irish-Canadian Tory, why would I want a closer union amongst the ruling globalists of the Five Eyes countries? Why would I want to keep pretending American republicanism and British parliamentary democracy are the same thing?

    It is fun to note too how the Anglo-Saxonists always here to chime in. They can’t stop their pride from sabotaging CANZUKUS while it’s still on the drawing board.

  77. Christo says:

    Use “Nazi”,it is shorter and is synonymous with “white supremacist”anyway to all these PC(anti-white) commie democrats. And Trump is Hitler . Easy, peasy. Might as well go with it. Nothing will change their brainwashed views except Mao’s suggestion , lead.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  78. LondonBob says:
    @Cagey Beast

    As John O’Sullivan put it today’s America is a utopia to the international left, Trump is a traumatic aberration to them, especially after Obama.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  79. @LondonBob

    That sounds right. It’s especially harsh for Trump to follow Obama because Obama was himself rushed in to soothe all the American loving progressives rubbed raw by Bush Jr. and the neocons.

  80. I would very strongly support a proposal along the lines of CANZUKUS.

    After the Great Revolution, that is.

  81. Patricus says:
    @jim jones

    UK more powerful than China, Japan or Russia? I wonder about the “power” criteria.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
  82. @Hail

    The phrase “White Supremacist” seems to have settled in among Social Justice Warriors

    – Ngram suggests the phrase emerged in the late 1980s and began a steady ascent through at least the mid 1990s before perhaps leveling off (uncapitalized);

    I was born in 1970, and I feel like the term is older than that. Of course, it was very frequently misspelled as “White Supremist”, so that may be obscuring the matter. As I recall, the term “White Supremist” actually functioned as a sort of linguistic forerunner of “White Supremacist”, but was eventually discarded (presumably for being grammatically incorrect). Whenever I saw the term “White Supremist” in the press during the 1990s, I tended to assume the author had intended to write “White Supremacist”, but four-syllable words were simply beyond their ken.

    • Replies: @Hail
  83. renfro says:
    @llloyd

    New Zealand has been named the least-corrupt country in the world.
    Transparency International on Thursday released its latest Corruptions Perception Index, which rates countries on their “perceived levels of public sector corruption according to experts and businesspeople”.

    New Zealand ranks 8th in most happy population
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-20/world-happiness-report-2017-rankings-released

    The report is produced by the Sustainable Development Solutions Network (SDSN), a global initiative launched by the United Nations in 2012

    • Replies: @utu
  84. Seraphim says:

    Isn’t CANZUK the ghost of the undead British Empire, the ‘great whore that sits (sat) upon many waters’? A ‘Flying Dutchman’? A zombie?
    In its times of glory and victories it was ruled by a ‘Gloriana’, a ‘Victoria’, nowadays by a decrepit Queen and a pathetic female PM. O tempora…

    • Replies: @Jake
  85. renfro says:

    After years of hearing this garbage I have decided to just accept my White Supremacy…..you should too… just start saying ..’Hell yea we are supreme, that’s why you are nobody victims and we are not. So what you going to do about it’?’

    The SJWs and the Anti Whiters heads will explode LOL
    They will go insane with rage and drop their ‘ façade’.
    Then its game over.

  86. @J1234

    Italy today has the highest (or close to the highest) aggregate IQ of any European country …

    I believe it. The Italians are smart enough to elect an anti-immigration-invasion government. No other Western country can say that.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @follyofwar
  87. renfro says:

    Another thing white people should do is quit ‘explaining’ and qualifying their positions.
    When harassed by the Victim Cult and SJW just tell them if they want to be victims thats their choice and you have nothing to do with it.

  88. Cyrano says:

    I think that’s not fair that the degenerates invented the word “White Supremacist” without offering an alternative and acceptable frame of mind that all white people should strive for in order not to be considered evil.

    Here are couple of names that I’ve came up with, which can describe how an alternative to “White Supremacist” should be called. How about “White Submissivist”, or maybe “White inferiorist”? Both of these terms suggest that the whites recognize the need to be second class to the imported hordes from the 3rd world in order not to stunt their development and their drive to overtake the whites as the evolution had it intended all along before the white race went all Hitler on the people from the 3rd world – achievements wise.

    If my suggestion somehow gets approved and the government sets guidelines about what we should all do in order to qualify to be “White submisivists” or “White inferiorists”, I think it’s only fair that the white elites of the west should get a new designation too. Luckily, they already have the qualifications that are needed to justify the new name that I am proposing they should use in the future. I think that “White degenerates” nicely captures their mental (dis)abilities and generally what they are all about.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @SafeNow
  89. Dumbo says:

    Mr Derbyshire is an immigrant to America, married to a Chinese immigrant to America, and then he complains about everyone else wanting to migrate to America. As far as I am concerned, he is part of the problem he wants to criticize. Anglos were the ones who invented “multiculturalism” and all that crap, now they play innocent. As usual. Without the “anglosphere”, there would not be multiculturalism, at least not in this scale. Well maybe the French would still have adopted the idea, as they are dumb. But I don’t think other countries would. They just did so because of anglo/U.S. influence.

    • Replies: @Santoculto
    , @anon1
  90. utu says:
    @renfro

    Until few years ago NZ even managed to stand up to Israel. But then PM Helen Clark almost fell out of the plane. Still later after the quake they disclosed the Mossad operation.

    I think they are being punished with immigrants.

  91. Wally says:

    “Germany…the less said the better.”

    Poor indoctrinated Derbyshire, never read a Zionist version of history that he didn’t like.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Jake
  92. As so often discussion here is difficult because the expression ‘white supremacy’ is not defined.
    The article seems to see ‘white supremacy’ as white countries having the highest per capita national incomes.

    The assault on white supremacy seems to be the rejection of whites ruling the world, rejection of whites trying to rule the world, or the rejection of the west still ruling the greater part of the world.

    For me ‘white supremacy’ is intellectual supremacy, the intellect that was no longer wasted on theological debates, since approx 1600 CE, but was used in trying to understand the world, the physical world, the universe, from the smallest particles to clusters of galaxies, and black holes.
    The connection between the three possible definitions of white supremacy is often overlooked or ignored.

    Supreme intellect made it possible to abolish slavery, it began with the steam engine, supreme intellect also made it possible to rule the world, from far more efficient cargo sailing ships, the Dutch fluit, to the British clipper, and superior weapons.
    Maybe the greatest achievement of white superiority was that slavery could be abolished, at the same time improving materially the lives of many over the whole planet.

    How it is possible that white intellectual superiority degenerated so much that a considerable part of these whites tries to commit suicide, is still beyond my comprehension.
    If someone can explain it, I’ll be very grateful.
    The possible solution of any problem begins with good analysis.

    • Replies: @Wally
  93. Wally says:
    @silviosilver

    “Given that, it’s astonishing how ‘hideously white’ mainstream television remains, though.”

    I suggest you watch Mexican TV or any Spanish language TV.

    And there’s the practically all euro white Mexican Congress:

  94. @Christo

    If anything prevents discussions, it is the use of words as nazi, fascist, racist, populist, even nationalist no longer is a neutral word.
    ‘Nazi’ is the worst, allied propaganda since WWII is confirmed as truth, any time the word is used.

    • Replies: @Christo
  95. Hail says: • Website
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    You’re right that the phrase is older. My comment was ambiguous but meant the phrase’s rise to prominence as a ‘stock’ MSM phrase to attack those with White ethnonationalist sympathies, dates to the late 1980s and early 1990s (this from data from the GoogleBooks-corpus “Ngram” and at least one newspaper’s archives). The phrase certainly existed before then, though.

    (“White supremist” surfaces in the GoogleBooks corpus from the mid-1960s, but is never very high. Lkely its emergence was possible due to that being the typewriter era and spellcheck being decades off; I would also assume that many/most of the would-be appearances of “supremist” got ‘edited up’ to “supremacist” by an editor before it made it to publication.)

    _______________

    What/when are the very earliest uses of the phrase “white supremacist”?

    The few scattered uses that pop up in the GoogleBooks corpus in the 1950s and 1960s, and even 1970s, are largely from groups like the NAACP, and never the mainstream press. We see the earliest uses are all adjectives and not yet nouns. The very earliest uses (late 1940s to early 1950s) appear to be from Communists.

    One of the earliest uses of the phrase, and one that comes close to using “white supremacist” as the noun with which we are now more familiar, is an April 1951 issue of the NAACP’s magazine, Crisis.

    It was attack on the appointment of Millard Caldwell (Governor of Florida, 1945-1949) as the first Federal Civil Defense Administrator and a call for his removal. Notably, the NAACP used quotation marks around the phrase, indicating it was seen to be brand new at the time.

    Along the N.A.A.C.P. Battlefront:

    Press for Caldwell Removal: In bitter resentment against the appointment of “white supremacist” advocate Millard F. Caldwell, Jr., as federal civil defense administrator, the NAACP board of directors has named a special committee to work out plans for effective mobilization of nationwide protest …to remove Caldwell on the basis of his anti-Negro record as governor of Florida.

    (Caldwell served as head of Civil Defense from his appointment as first head of that department in Dec. 1950, to mid Nov. 1952, when he resigned to make way for an Eisenhower appointee, Ike having been elected a week earlier.)

    Besides a stray appearance in a 1946 Socialist Workers Party pamphlet (text not available), I find two ‘Communist’ uses that predate this first NAACP use above. These are the earliest uses of “white supremacist” of note that I can find, both in 1950 and both from U.S. ‘Communists’:

    [MORE]

    1 – The phrase “white supremacist” appears twice in a political essay appearing in the Winter 1950-51 edition of an arts-oriented University of Michigan student magazine called Generation. The author is a Gordon MacDougall, identified as a Senior at Michigan and “for the past two years, President of the University of Michigan Chapter of the Young Progressives of America.”

    MacDougall slams President Truman’s declaration of a national emergency (Dec. 1950) and predicts a calamitous fall in enrollment as American youth are forced into uniform to fight foreign wars for imperialism (paraphrasing); he also predicts failure in Asia, which is where he drops in the white supremacist phrase:

    Our intellectual “democracy” and white supremacist attitudes toward Negro citizens are not convincing arguments to the colored peoples in the Orient.

    As best I can tell, the Young Progressives of America was hard Left, but not “formally Communist.” It did have a lot of overlap with the “formal” Communists, though, and the actual Communist Party youth group had completely merged with the YPA in the 1947-48 period to push the left-wing Henry Wallace campaign, then de-merged in 1949.

    2 – Preceding the article in the student magazine at Michigan by five or six months is a July 1950 publication by Gus Hall (1910-2000), the longtime Communist Party USA figure. Both Michigan undergraduate and Gus Hall use the phrase as an adjective, not a noun.

    Hall’s use of the phrase was crammed in the middle of a lengthy polemic on how U.S. Communists should react to the war in Korea and exploit the war politically. It was distributed to Communists across America, and reproduced in full in the records of the House Committee on Un-American Activities in fall 1950 which is in the GoogleBooks corpus. Excerpt:

    We must show that the hand which pulls the trigger to kill the colored people of Asia, of Korea, is the same hand that tightens the lynch rope in the South. We must show that the Wall Street-Bourbon ruling class has intensified its violent repression of the Negro people, because the Negro people want and fight for national liberation, against the white-supremacist policies of discrimination and segregation. [….]

    These days, the same kind of incendiary rhetoric as that which I reproduce in the blockquote above from America’s leading Communist ideologue of his time, is easy to find in any of the prestige press, the New York Times and the like (probably lighter on the direct attacks on “Wall Street,” though).

    But back on the origins of the term “white supremacist”: Given that these early uses of the phrase come from none other than the head of the Communist Party USA himself and the head of a statewide quasi-communist youth group, the term “white supremacist” seems likely to literally have a communist origin. The phrase is nowhere near any MSM until much later.

  96. @anon

    Australia and New Zealand bought GB protection against France by shedding their blood at Gallipoli.
    The countries felt threatened by French imperialism in the S Pacific, maybe too by German imperialism.
    Once one has discovered deliberate shedding of blood for purely political reasons, the British madness at the Somme in 1916 also was purely political, interpretation of politics is added by a new dimension.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
    , @dfordoom
  97. Hail says: • Website
    @Cyrano

    How do you feel about the term “ethnomasochist”?

    Or for more inclusion, “racial masochist”?

  98. @dfordoom

    Churchill ran into FDR’s trap.
    Francois Kersaudy, ´De Gaulle et Roosevelt, Le duel au sommet’, Paris, 2004
    Churchill just saw the trap in Casablanca, but already from the inside.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Christo
    , @dfordoom
    , @Seraphim
  99. Amon says:

    Anyone else notice that this CANZUK idea also happens to involve all the nations taking part on the five eyes survilance and mass privacy violations.

    Its also happens to be the five states most controlled by jews and with the biggest communist and islamist infiltration into their sociaties.

    Food for thought huh.

    • Replies: @Anon
  100. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    Oh God, not again

  101. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Square Wheeled Hot Rod

    Italy’s 102 on most of the IQ charts

  102. @Bennis Mardens

    There is no such thing as a white supreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemist.
    I’ve never seen one.

    Seeing is done by the brain, not by the eyes.

  103. RVBlake says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    I wonder what Aussies think of “Breaker Morant.” For that matter I’d wonder about the Boers but I suspect they have more pressing concerns.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  104. My very first thought was, “Why not the USA also?” My second thought was, “Who would want our negro pathologies?” Then I saw Derb mentioned the Canadian and UK negro/Muslim pathologies and thought, “Screw the whole thing.”

    I’d be entirely in favor if it weren’t for the metastasizing cancers each polyglot abomination harbors. Were we looking only at an actual Anglo-Saxon free trade and free migration zone the idea would be great. But we are far past that and I’m afraid each of us must determine our fate on our own. It’s highly unlikely that any of us will survive, and immoral to saddle any that might have a chance with the boat anchor of the others’ inevitable collapse. Perhaps, if one of us does survive, they’ll extend their remaining cousins in the failed states an opportunity to emigrate. If not, who could blame them?

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  105. @sb

    I did see the Gallipoli film long ago. Unfortunately it gave people the impression that it was some upper class British officer who gave one particularly stupid and suicidal order to charge the Turkish lines but in reality it was an Australian officer with a voice which conformed to Australian pretensions to follow British class markers.

  106. @Cowboy Shaw

    The small number of Sudanese (who are not Muslim I believe) serve the very useful purpose of warning governments against appointing foolish Immigration Ministers such as Amanda Vanstone was.

  107. @silviosilver

    I don’t think of it as race replacement but as just keeping up the average IQ of a population which hasn’t been as infertile as much of Europe, Japan and Korea but has been breeding dysgenically for maybe 100 years or more. The newcomers, apart from a few primitives like the Sudanese refugees, are not great breeders.

  108. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Why on God’s green earth would the US want to be part of this group? Just so we could be bombarded with more bizarre accents? NZ accent is particularly hideous, I don’t even think they speak English.

    Every single Chindian in the Anglosphere who is not in the US all want to come to the US, they just didn’t quite make it all the way. Rest assure they’ll land here in a jiffy if we become part of this pack, especially the Paki rape gang. Free trade should be restricted to movement of goods, not people.

    Meanwhile, just about every single Brit I’ve ever met in the US is the biggest libtard moron, the ones who are famous are arrogant and obnoxious to boot, like Pierce Morgan, Ricky Gervais, Simon Cowell. Brits still have this superiority complex over all their former colonies, and they consider the US one such, even though it was us who’ve had to bail out their pompous asses more than a few times. They still think they’re better than everyone else because they once had an empire.

    Why isn’t Australia part of this pack? Should be CANZUKAUS. Go knock themselves out. We’re not interested.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  109. @J1234

    The Italians have also produced the most stylish and attractive sports cars in the world, and in my (warped) mind, that also makes my case.

    As a fellow car guy and native Detrioter, I am sympathetic to your views. But the Brits own F1 do they not? And wasn’t Senna the greatest driver of our time followed by Schumacher? Where are the Italians in this picture? Enzo is long gone as is Ferruccio. Their mantle has been picked up somewhat by Horacio Pagani (certainly the style leader today), but Bruce McLaren’s company and Koenigsegg are performance leaders along with the Germans running Bugatti.

    And let’s not forget us Americans who are building insane mods with 2,000+ horsepower and factory models with 800+ like the Demon and ZR1. What might we be building if our government weren’t standing in our way and our elites selling us out to China & Mexico? I’ve had several hours of one-on-one time with Roger Penske, Kalitta, Roush, and others, we have the talent and interest. NASCAR is a bad joke, but F1 is making inroads and we do have Sebring and other great road races.

    • Replies: @J1234
  110. @swamped

    What’s your evidence for saying that the Five Eyes countries spy on each other’s citizens? I wouldn’t be surprised at an occasional favour being done back when US intelligence services usually tried to obey the law but I would be interested in any detail you can provide.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  111. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @WorkingClass

    I was born in ’44 so I remember when the US was a white country and men were in charge outside the home. Segregation was enforced by Jim Crow in the south and red lining in the north. A woman couldn’t get a loan. Homosexuals were persecuted.

    Ahhh the good ol’ days. Then the Civil Rights happened, followed by Vietnam war, and the Jew take-over.

    America is paradise lost.

  112. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Derbyshire is still in la la land. There is no white or Anglo-Saxon supremacy, only Jew supremacy. Jews have taken over the Anglosphere(incl. the US) and turned it into a giant multicultural hell.

  113. RVBlake says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Another negative feature of such an alliance is the political. I fear Washington DC would unleash its tentacles and want to draw its new partners into its “protective defensive umbrella.” The last thing you want to see advancing on your leaders is Bolton and Pompeo approaching with reptilian grins and sweaty palms.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @LondonBob
  114. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @foulkes

    Yup. Vancouver is Hong Kong West. Just another mainland Chinese outpost, and Toronto already has 5 Chinatowns.

    Last time I was in Vancouver for the 2010 Winter Olympics, the place was also crawling with Subcons.

    And we have enough Somalis in MN and WA. We don’t need more.

    The girly man who likes to wear his wife’s skinny jeans in Ottawa is the face of SJW. Canadians are so woke they elected an SJW to run their country. We don’t need more of these retards in the US, we have enough of our own.

  115. @CJ

    Do you think Australia’s electoral system might have saved the Conservatives? The Economist recently pointed out how important Australia’s electoral system is to understanding its politics; i.e compulsory voting and the preferential system (aka the Alternative Vote) it suggested tended to favour the centre.

  116. Anon[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Total BS. Fear of French Imperialism in the Pacific had nothing to do with Australia’s being involved in WW1.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  117. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    There will be no CANZUKUS until all the non-WASPs are out of these countries. Until then, we are just swapping garbage, with the US eventually swallowing up everyone else’s since the Chosenites have the strongest hold on this government.

  118. Anon[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Roosevelt’s trap? What was that?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Anon
  119. Anon[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Amon

    You must be mad to spout such nonsense.

  120. @RVBlake

    I think Breaker Morant was another of those Australian films, now surely passé, which were distorted to give some Irish-Australian or working class Aussies’ suopposed resentments of the stuck up Poms a run. Breaker Morant was, to the best of my recollection, a recent English immigrant.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
    , @Logan
  121. @james wilson

    I love my kids much more than your kids. I love my wife much more than your wife. Inferior/superior has nothing to do with it. I may readily acknowledge that your kids are smarter and your wife hotter than mine. Extend the same to our sub-species, tribe, race, or whatever you choose to call it. I love mine most. I don’t hate any others nor do I necessarily think they’re inferior or superior beyond some specific attributes. I am much less fond of negroes (shock that will be to all who know me), but do I think them inferior? In many ways I find them superior and definitely want them to have happy fulfilling lives – just not near me or to the detriment of those I love most, members of my own tribe. Where our interests clash is invariably where we are artificially forced together and almost invariably I will choose my tribe’s side in any conflict.

    We are simply pack animals. Does the wolf see members of a different pack inferior? Does the lion see another from a different pride inferior? An orca see members of a different pod inferior? Or just different, an outsider, an interloper?

  122. SafeNow says:
    @Cyrano

    “White submissivist”

    One commenter put it this way: The reason Whites are being replaced is because they possess this character trait: Tolerance.

  123. Jake says:
    @Seraphim

    Of course it is. The Derb is pining for the glory days.

    Of course, the fact is that the Elites who ran the UK, and before that the kingdom of England, despised the masses they ruled. And they arranged things so that the richest Empire in world history featured, in every century, in every decade, those (WASP) Elites getting richer while the masses they ruled stagnated, or worse. At the Empire.s largest. richest height, late Victorianism, huge swaths of the peoples of the British Isles were either desperate to emigrate or sunken into acceptance of generational poverty.

    The white trash of the British Isles that could get away and had become so desperate as to risk the wilderness created new worlds. Freed of the worst of the control of the Brit WASP Elites, they began recreating things that came bubbling up from deep cultural memory.

    And as anyone who fails to worship WASPdom could guess, their successes always came first and greatest where the Brit WASP Elites were represented least: America. Canada’s later semi-freedom led to an amazing series of rounds of great things, done by the descendants of the white trash that the Brit WASP Elites still hated. The same was true around the world.

    Peoples native to the British Isles and seen by the Brit WASP Elites as trash were able, once freed of direct control by those WASP Elites, to build good local communities.

    And once people who were truly ethnically Anglo-Saxon (as opposed to West Country Norman, North Country Norman, Irish, Scottish, Welsh) or who had become fully assimilated to WASP culture came to control, the process to force the peoples the Brit WASPs hate to accept being plundered once again.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  124. @foulkes

    Vancouver and Toronto, are majority non-white and resemble pre -1990 Canada as much as London represents pre-1990 England.

    Negro (and West Asian, North African) dysfunction is only dysfunctional in context of Western Civilization. In African tribal society, our behavior would be dysfunctional. In that light, we definitely are to blame because we imported 400,000 of them as slaves and bred (and/or allowed them to breed) into 43,000,000. We made that. Blaming the negro for being what nature made him makes no sense. Nor does it make sense to blame him for being what he is and doing the incalculably massive harm he does in our society. This is our fault and we must fix the problem. The negro (and others) must be restored to his natural habitat where he may thrive in freedom from our expectations of behavior.

  125. @attilathehen

    Then we look at IQ. The Lebanese Christian Nassim Taleb refuses to deal with the reality of IQ. IQ has a biological basis.

    Remember that thinking the sole difference between negroes (or Arabs) and whites is down to IQ is essentially no different than thinking that it’s just “skin color”. The evolutionary process of 70,000+ years that made the negro darker and with a lower IQ caused a host of other differences both physical and behavioral. Fixing the IQ gap would not make negroes just like us, it would only make negroes with higher IQs. Attributing criminality or assimilation failure solely to IQ is claiming correlation equals causation.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  126. Jake says:
    @Wally

    Quite true, as long as ‘Zionist version of history’ includes all the works that assume, not necessarily plead, the sense of history born of the Judaizing heresy of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism.

  127. The negro (Arab, Oriental, Mestizo/Indio, etc) is simply an invasive (sub)species like the zebra mussel is in my Great Lakes. He’s made the waters clear, he’s not evil, but this is not his home and he’s destroying the ecosystem and making it impossible for the native species of fish to survive. In the same fashion the negro has brought the behaviors necessary to survive his natural native habitat into our Western Civilization which cannot survive his presence. Look how we altered the habitat of the aboriginal Amerindians or aboriginal Australians – alterations which are now irreversible. It’s not too late however to save our habitat.

    The balance of nature must be restored. If it is not, the natural order will be permanently altered beyond recognition. The evidence of this process we see already is overwhelming.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  128. RVBlake says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Yes, Morant was English. I’m sorriest for the Boers, in the movie and historically.

  129. @anon

    I agree. Old Derb is way off on this one. Our ancestors fought a war to get away from British rule. Why on earth would be want to go back to being in such an alliance with any country that is farther down the shithole of multiculturalism than we are? The Brits still worship their degenerate royalty, which I find disgusting. I’ve heard and seen far too much of Megan Markle already.

    The US should have fought on Germany’s side in both world wars instead of bailing out the Brits. The world would be much better off today if it had.

  130. niceland says:

    This sounds like a plan to rain in those who managed to escape the grip of the British elites. Who could resist such offer?

  131. @Stan d Mute

    Mud settles eventually at bottom of the lake.

  132. @Square Wheeled Hot Rod

    Are you still stuck up on the East-West divide of the Cold War? Hungary, Poland, and the Czech Republic (for three examples) aren’t much further east than Italy and they were far ahead in opposing Third World immigration.

    Derb lives in the past when calling himself an “Anglo-Saxon Supremacist.” That type of thinking got us into two devastating World Wars, where millions of the best and brightest Europeans were killed before they even had the chance to breed. We whites should realize that we are fighting a common enemy. With our plummeting birth rates the last thing we can afford is any more brother’s wars.

  133. Logan says:
    @attilathehen

    One can recognize that Group A is more intelligent on average than Group B without being an A-supremacist, or indeed even believing that As are “superior” to Bs.

    IQ/intelligence is only one human factor, and there is no particular reason that I can see to believe it is even the most important.

    All sides of the argument seem to accept without question that if Group A has a higher average IQ than Group B then by definition Group A is superior to Group B. Yet for some obscure reason nobody ever applies this same definition within the groups. Nobody fixates on his own IQ of 107 (purported East Asian average) making him “superior” to his neighbor who has an IQ of 100 (white American average). But people do obsess about such minor differences between groups.

    This is very odd.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  134. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bennis Mardens

    Yes words like racist and even white supremacist are nonsense words, Racist out to mean someone who understand the process of evolutions implications on all apes including the human.
    The implications, among others, being that the “races and ethnicities” having evolved in sexual isolation from each other, in geographically different selective environments, where they hybridized with entirely different species of apes; could not possibly be the same genetically, and myriad observation proves they are not.
    When i was a child even liberals understood that was all a given and racist was meant to imply what one then did with this information. Did one hate the other simply for being other. Did one purposely or stupidly blur the facts about trait distribution and average traits, to gain advantage and harm the other? IE did one not give Sidney Poitier the benefit of the doubt and not assume he was like every other black you met. Did one also purposely or stupidly misunderstand the evolutionary process and assert because one group of apes was better at coping with its own environment it did not mean the other group of apes because they were poor at coping with your environment ON AVERAGE were poor at coping with other environments they might in fact be better than you on their home turf, and not generally inferior.
    and that of course brings us to white supremacy, its indisputable and unsurprising that “whites” are better selected for white environments, dare i say we are supreme at it. Those races who progressed from hunting gathering to agriculture began a process of somewhat transcending natural selection and began to be culturally selected thus whites among others can be said to be culturally selected as well as naturally selected. and while to some small extent this is true of all humans and probably some other animals it really accelerates with agriculture and permanent settlement, and while it somewhat lessened the geographical/sexual isolation the result was mostly massive warfare it accelerated differentiation becauses cultures were more radically different than geography.

    The problem is its liberals that insist all human species must now live in the environment of the european, that anything less is inhuman which of course leads the naive to think that our standards are the only standards and those that cant keep up are inferior, west africans actually hunt antelope by out running them to exhaustion pretty sure i would not excel in that community, Tibetans and peruvians can live at high altitudes that would kill me, I like diversity I am almost as sad that all these wonderful races and cultures are being wiped out by liberal commies wanting to put everyone into a monoculture to better control them, how can I ever study eagle falconry with the mongols etc if the marxists destroy all the diversity.

    But what i am and what we all should be is centric I am euro centric another might be japanese centric. This is what evolution requires of us in order to work. any of us might hold the genetic lottery ticket that keeps life let alone human life going another generation it is our sacred duty to protect that life and reproduce at any cost since our species for the most part (perhaps euros being the exception) have evolved a group strategy to some extent that means allegiance to the rules of our particular group strategy.

  135. @Patricus

    No one has achieved much with conventional forces for a long time. Other dimensions of power are now important.

  136. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    I can’t see what’s wrong with any of that. Although of course I understand that nothing could be further from the minds of our ruling ideologues than leaving people alone.

    heres the problem with it
    some whites the cucks subconsciously understand that if someone doesnt live according to white standards they are living to less than human standards and find that intolerable, they tried going missionary and simply bringing white standards to non white nations but except for east asians that was a failure it seems non whites cant actually reproduce white cultures surprise. since liberals are convinced white culture is the only culture worth living they have now decided to move the non whites into white nations, of course liberals are inumerates and seem not to understand the white nations are too small, the non white people too many, frankly hitler was much better at this his plan was reduce the number of non whites and increase the size of white lands.

    Other (((whites))) the ones actually thinking about all this have different motivation, being not actually white and fearing being discovered to have interests antithetical to white nations peoples and cultures they thought they could import enough non whites that their own presence would be the least of whites concern with outsider problems, some of these (((whites))) were commies and were about to give up on white comunism whites being so independent and productive and all, when they realized non whites make perfect commies so even another reason to import non whites, other ((((whites))) being in finance like central banking etc noticed that these new non white citizens cost so much to make seem like hum,ans that white nations needed to take on massive debt to support these swarthy newcomers and since these (((whites))) make shekels on white debt they too understood bringing non whites into white nations to be a great idea.In fact these (((whites))) being master of the universe types think this will lead to them being well masters of the universe, they and theyre commie tribesmen have come to an understanding that they will play good cop bad cop with the goys and muds and the muds will be their muscle and the goys their slaves.
    Of course theses (((whites))) despite the hype are also not very good at math and dont seem to get this isnt going to work for the sme reason the cucks plan are not going to work- not enough whites. so what will happen to both cucks and jews is white reach a breaking point before plan complete and get mad and do what whites do when they get mad go bezerk
    now if these groups actually believed race didnt exist then they will have no objection when the only race there is decides to do a little culling and gets rid of a few loose ends after all its just like losing weight you still exist just less fat

  137. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @English Yobbo

    they want to target anglo countries not so much for our superior culture as our superior cuckery, theres lots of wealth in japan and opportunity in china and even greece has indoor plumbing and cell phones but in those nations they wont be given it for free with apologies it isnt more.They are not coming to america or britain to work they are coming to get on welfare or get a $15 hr job and get the other 15 family members on welfare collecting 35k each in govt largesse of schooling medical care housing food etc, they target the nation known to not balk at free loaders

    • Replies: @nsa
    , @Proxenos
  138. @Jake

    What undermines your whole effusion is the fact that even the working class and lower middle class Brits who didn’t emigrate enjoyed a steadily improving standard of living throughout the 19th century with nasty hiccups from time to time for lack of a welfare state to provide a decent safety net.

  139. Logan says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Not particularly recent. He’d arrived in Oz about 20 years before his execution around 19 years of age. He had lived the stereotypical Australian outback lifestyle so was about as Australian as one could get.

  140. @Anon

    Assertions like this without any argument always impress me

    • Replies: @Anon
  141. @Anon

    Asking for the obvious ?
    Manoevring GB into a war he could not end, and only ‘win’ with USA support.
    Winning, giving up the empire, what was the condition for LendLease.
    As British discovered after Germany capitulated ‘we won the war, but lost the peace’.
    For Dutch going on holiday to GB at the end of the sixties GB still was an impoverished country.

    • Replies: @Anon
  142. Yip-pee for CANZUKS! Rollo would be proud of you save that the patriarch of the conquering Normans would be greatly disappointed that you have chosen a concubine of lesser degree to the eternal shame of Anglo-Saxon creed… forget about leading the troops with the newly acquired web domain but instead try to make money with it as a prodigal son of the nation of shopkeepers!

  143. Christo says:
    @jilles dykstra

    And you think the term “white supremacist” is any different?

    Any one using such a derived derogatory false definition as “white supremacist ” expects such presumption to be accepted as an unquestionable truth. The people who believe in political correctness/cultural Marxism are not interested in discussion at all.

    Attempting to explain or discuss anything they have already defined with their “words” , is accepting their “words’ in the first place. One way to fight this is to use “word judo” against their bogus definitions and terminology, otherwise you are accepting their definitions/ inferred accusations as accepted dogma..

    Turn false premises on themselves. They have cooked up so many derogatory terms to label white people evil they are becoming meaningless. Using the “worst” word they use , to expose the connective repetitive bullshit nature of the rest of their false accusations and unethical definitions is a way to nullify them all.

  144. Wally says:
    @Harry_the_Horrible

    Whoa! Holy Cow!

    Canada is damned:

    China Accuses “Canadian Elites” Of “White Supremacy” Over Prosecution Of Huawei CFO
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-10/china-accuses-canadian-elites-white-supremacy-over-prosecution-huawei-cfo

  145. LondonBob says:
    @RVBlake

    I often suspect the reason neocons here in Britain support Brexit as it would subsequently make the US even more of a proxy for DC and thus the Israelis.

    Sadly all the countries suffer from some variety of current Western maladies, but still closer ties with Aus, NZ and Canada would be welcome by me, if only to reassert our common ethnic heritage.

  146. Wally says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “The assault on white supremacy seems to be the rejection of whites ruling the world, rejection of whites trying to rule the world, or the rejection of the west still ruling the greater part of the world.”

    The only “assault” is by a very powerful minority of supremacist Jews / Zionists, Communists.

    True “white supremacy” is appreciated everyday by the vast numbers of people trying to get into white majority countries.
    It’s therefore obvious that most people accept and actually want “white supremacy”. Without it we end up with Africa and other “sh-tholes”.

  147. nsa says:
    @anon

    It is not just the imported low IQ squat people who are working the system. The Holy Grail of rural white Americans is Social Security Disability……and all the freebies that go with it. Binder and Binder (Scotsmen?) come on local AM radio with aggressive ads dredging up potential customers. It only takes two MDs (provided by B&B) and a judge’s signature and the deadbeat is set up for life. You see them out on the rivers at 1 PM on a weekday fishing, while drinking beer and smoking their medicinal pot (provided by the taxpayer). When the mill closed over in Aberdeen, all 430 “workers” signed up for disability with the help of B&B. Every male mill worker over the age of 40 has a bad back, so every male over 40 qualifies. It even gets better if a family is lucky enough to have a defective kid……the little mutant is a gift from the heavens. The kid goes on Social Security Disability at $1000/month and the mom caretaker gets another $1000/month to take care of it….plus free medical, counseling, transportation, etc and don’t forget the all important medicinal pot which ameliorates every affliction known to man, from glaucoma to schizophrenia. What a country……..

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Anon
    , @Philip Owen
  148. Personally, I prefer Ramzpaul’s catchphrase- “White Supreeeemist!”

  149. Christo says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Trap? Lost me there.

    If you are talking of some agreement of FDR to back England backing Poland , that happened, and the USA did back England before and throughout WWII, so no “trap” there.

    But even disregarding such “secret” agreements. Churchill had the most to do with drawing the USA into BOTH World Wars publicly. Although it must be said Roosevelt ,extreme anglophile he was not withstanding , was going to the set the USA to destroy Germany because of its NSDAP government no matter.

    Then what of the nature of the “destroyers for bases agreement” , one of the actions FDR and Churchill conspired on ? But it is easier to read up on Cordell Hull’s(US SoS under FDR) remarks and diary entries Roosevelt’s intents,preemptive actions and private remarks about WWII. Churchill was “royalty” to Roosevelt besides a fellow high level mason.

    And how or why does a WWII Trap needs to happen, given Churchill’s machinations to get the Lusitania sunk as an attempt to bring the USA into WWI ? . Seems Churchill needed no trap to get England involved in a war against Germany, and was the one trying to bring other countries in.

    Churchill was nobody’s lapdog ,neither was the English Empire(except to Rothschild bankers of course), And the USA was a “business” venture launched under the crown of England backed by
    Banking Interests in England and their relations in the Netherlands.

    You want the one person who fooled Churchill badly in WWII, look east to Joe Steel, not west at FDR.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  150. Cyrano says:

    How is it OK for the power elites to feel superior to everyone else – including people from their own race, but it’s not OK for the less valued members (by the degenerate power elites) of their own race to feel superior to the hordes from the 3rd world that their “leaders” want to mix them up with?

    Since the power elites are calling everyone who doesn’t agree with their agenda “Nazis”, let me explain who deserves the title “Nazis” better. It’s the power elites. One big difference is that they are way, way stupider than the original German Nazis used to be.

    Because, you see, the German Nazis believed that the WHOLE of the German nation was ubermensch to anyone else. The retarded power elites of the west today believe that they are a separate nation and that only they qualify as ubermensch to everyone else – including people of their own race.

    That’s the real degeneracy – when they believe that they are racially superior to people of their own race – because they have more money. Once they destroy the people of their own race – because they are racially inferior as a result of having less money – the diversifiers that they imported from the 3rd world will have the heads of the power elites chopped off. Not even their “unique” skills to make money or protect “democracy” will save the degenerates who turned against their own race of whom they think of as inferior – because they are poor.

  151. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Anon

    Thoughtful comment.

    Most people do not understand economic history, which is the only one that matters as it is the prime variable.

    In 1694, the Bank of England was formed. This was the first debt spreading bank, where double entry credit at usury became codified as the money type of land. Soon after the construct of finance/corporatism/government became method.

    For example, British East India Company had its own mercenary army, its own MI6, and had a charter. Corporation root is corporeal, which means “men at arms.” So, these men at arms were limited with their charter and constrained. With BOE take over, soon England was in corporate debt, and the construct with finance in the lead: Finance (debt spreading), Corporatism, Government. Today, most corporations are owned by finance or are finance corporations (banks) in their own right.

    The East India model became England, as finance and markets formed companies, companies became perpetual, and secret services became arms of the government rather than companies. Trade disputes became “international” as the risk passed from companies to country.

    BOE takeover by Rothschild then made this model go “international” especially as our International Jewish Merchants were in alignment if not prime movers of the “usurpation” of England, using their finance capital won in Amsterdamn (usually through sneaky means). Cromwell, the Orange Kings, etc, were FINANCED by usury money out of Amsterdamn. Bible printing, (yes Bibles) were printed in Amsterdam to give to English sheepherders, to then emphasize the old testament Jew, and how he should be let back into England.

    So, SOOON after the U.S. was colonized, it came under attack by the BOE system. The American Colonials like Cotton Mather, then later Franklin and Jefferson figured out what was going on, but did not put enough protections into the Constitution to overcome this new finance Jewish juggernaut. Today, corporations are more than people, with stronger money amplified voices.

    People keep thinking that some sort of extra parliament, or some other bureaucratic thing is the answer, while ignoring the invisible devil. The devil wins at the moment he becomes invisible. Bank credit as money and corporation combined are peoples livelihood, and this private issuance of money with state sponsored usury WILL ALWAYS WIN, unless it is dismantled.

    To the inevitable gold and metal bugs, metal isn’t money either. Money’s true nature is law. The goldmen used metal to ride their credit on top. This gold derived credit was the money power used to create double entry credit system of BOE, which has now spread through out the Anglosphere and is attempting to take over the world i.e. one world government.

    The Anglosphere is also called BIZWOG. Britain Israel World Government. The U.S . became part of BIZWOG after WW2.

    Importing of third world orc people into Anglosphere countries is part of usury finance capitalism, to then drive down wages… to take wage arbitrage, and to create a new class of debtors.

    • Replies: @Anon
  152. Rurik says:

    “Ashkenazi Supremacy,”

    Ashkenazi?

    You can’t even say the word, can you?

    Here’s a clue:

    Virtually everything you lament vis-a-vis the death slog of the West, basically comes down to the moral cowardice of those whites in positions of power and influence, (journalists and writers and academics, ect..), without the nads to simply speak the obvious truth.

    Duh.

    They’re too worried about their sinecures and being considered ‘respectable’.

    Ha!

    ‘Do you see the flowing raiment of the Ashkenazi? How it glitters in the light, with such tailoring and resplendent stitching! How the robes repose on his frame, and compliment his majesty!’

    All ‘white supremacy’ refers to is white people who’d rather not be ruled or dominated by non-whites. [see Africa, South, or (((England)))]

    And any and all who’re too afraid to even mention those ((others)), are the reason for every single thing I’ve seen you lament in your articles since I’ve been participating on this website.

    England is not “busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre”, because of black or brown or ‘white’ supremacy, Mr. Derbyshire.

    And on that day, when the last ethnic Brit succumbs to the mire.. well, a certain Brit put it best:

    ‘If any ask why England died, tell them, because our fathers… could only muster the courage to write ‘Ashkenazi’.

    [with apologies to Kipling]

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Cagey Beast
  153. anarchyst says:
    @nsa

    Part of the problem that nsa does not mention is the lack of middle-class jobs that have been “off shored” due to “globalization”. We were “sold out” by the globalization elites. Any country that does not look out for its citizens deserves what it gets…
    There are many of us who were pushed out of the job market due to age. Once reaching 50 years of age, almost every employer WILL discriminate against you (despite there being “protections” in place). If you are a white male, you get a “double-whammy”, as your race and gender IS used against you. The “age discrimination” statutes are useless, as most of the government employees who process such claims are minorities themselves and do not care…ask me how I know.
    Having many skills and a good work ethic, I was able to procure a decent job after enduring unemployment for almost two years.
    Although I did not avail myself of the “social security disability” track, I cannot outright blame those who use it–especially white males.
    The elites made their bed–let them pay for it.

  154. @Christo

    I am losing you here.
    There is no doubt whatsoever that Churchill had not foreseen losing the empire through WWII.
    His special relationship did not exist.
    Francois Kersaudy, ´De Gaulle et Roosevelt, Le duel au sommet’, Paris, 2004
    John Charmley, ‘Der Untergang des Britischen Empires, Roosevelt – Churchill und Amerikas Weg zur Weltmacht’, Graz 2005

    • Replies: @Anon
  155. crimson2 says:

    How sad that the white supremacy movement is so weak that you guys have to come up with terms like “dissident right” in an attempt to hide your deeply unpopular ideology.

    And by “sad,” of course, I mean “truly great.”

  156. Proxenos says:
    @anon

    The Greeks had invented indoor plumbing,when your ancestors were still living up the trees..

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  157. Moi says:

    I don’t give a crap what anyone’s race is.

  158. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Australia had no choice at all re entry into WW1. The English needed the Australians to fight the Germans Austrians and Turks in Europe and the Middle East. Nothing to do with the French and English territories in the Pacific and SE Asia.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  159. @Anon

    Can you explain to me what the Australian interest was in fighting on the other side of the world ?
    Fighting because some idiot in GB had the brilliant idea that battleship artillery could outshoot Krupp artillery in forts, and thus force the Straits ?
    This idiot was Churchill.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
    , @dfordoom
    , @anon
  160. peterAUS says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    ……I would be interested in any detail you can provide.

    Well, you could start with:
    https://blog.bolehvpn.net/what-is-the-five-eyes-alliance-fvey/
    and
    https://pixelprivacy.com/resources/5eyes-9eyes-14eyes/

    It’s a deep rabbit hole. A layman gets lost fast. Even a trained IT professional gets lost rather soon (spyware in firmware). You even get into the magic of analog world if you dig deep enough.

    That’s for actual technical capability. What technology can do, today.

    Now, if you are asking for some proof which can be used in court of law…well…that’s beyond trolling, really.
    It’s common sense applied to the word “spying”.

  161. Derbyshire, there are only 3 types of supremacists prevailing at this point in time- Chinese, Israeli and Italian.

    Such a vague, pussilanimous term- white supremacism.

    So while you scrape and bow to your new and old masters; you prove our point:

    The Anglo-Saxon, his far- left mick cousins and the rest of de-balled, domesticated humanity are relegated to the status of field negro.

  162. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Jilles is of the opinion that Britain Germany, Poland, Russia, France and Italy had absolutely nothing to do with the outbreak of WW2. It was all FDR’s fault.

  163. I’ll give you the Amritsar massacre if you give me Stalin’s Ukraine Famine, … and so on.

    The high estimate for deaths at Amritsar was 1,000 people. Compared to the bloodbaths that typically accompanied native insurrections against native rulers on the subcontinent, this was probably not even ranked #1,000 in the body count standings for a single incident of subcontinental unrest, through the region’s 7,000 year recorded/semi-recorded history.

  164. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Even your grammar is garbage. If you think that first sentence is a meaningful response you should be worrying about dementia.

    As to your late 60s experience in GB I don’t underestimate the ability of tight fisted Dutch to slum it even in “Swinging Lindon” but my experience of late 50s UK gives the lie to that. Balls, night clubs, wine clubs, ski parties to the Continent where everything was so cheap…..

    • Replies: @Anon
  165. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    Good for you! These Anglophiles who applaud the Glorious Revolution; replacing the pro English James 2 with the Amsterdam Jewish banker puppet Dutch William 3 are fools and bigots.

  166. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    In contrast to your totally unsubstantiated assertions? It is telling that you offer not the slightest hint of evidence.

  167. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @nsa

    I’m firmly of the opinion that Whites will only be able to survive by lying cheating grifting and scamming the way immigrants do.

    All those wonderful tech skilled and entrepreneurial Asian Indian immigrants being over their elderly relatives to parasite on SSI free transit food banks senior housing Medicare Medicaid and all the rest of the disability and senior benefits.

    If we are the child benefit health welfare and education department for Hispanic immigrant children we are also the old age pension system of China and India.

    Here’s s common scam old immigrants do. As non White immigrants, they are entitled to cheap senior housing $250.00 a month utilities included. The immigrants get their unit and rent it out for say $700.00 per month.

    Whatever your job was, you obviously either made it to retirement before it was outsourced or you were replaced by immigrants. Or, you have such s unique and special skill you’re still holding on to your job.

    That’s the bourgeois mind. Learn skills obey the rules and the capitalist scum will reward you. Well, they won’t and it can happen to all of us Whites.

    The long 1,000 year reign of skilled workers and business people is over. If Whites are to survive we need to be like the immigrants blacks and Jews. Lie cheat and steal and survive

    Once upon s time in a galaxy far far away I went to a top five university with the young White men who created Silicon Valley, astronautical engineering and sent a man into space.

    After the 1980?? NASA cutbacks many weren’t hired back but replaced by Chinese foreigners. I don’t think any made it to retirement.

    I saw it happen. I saw how those MIT Champaign Urbana Stanford Cal tech etc guys were spotted given full
    Scholarships courted and recruited in 1960 to 1970. And then along came the opening to China and they were thrown away by the capitalist scum like used paper towels.

    It could happen to you and your children. Sneer at the White thrash deplorables all you want but don’t think yourself immune to what happened to them.

    Welfare isn’t just for non Whites and people of color you know. I feel it’s a triumph when Whites get some of the welfare immigrants get as soon as they get off the plane.

    We’re it not for disability those former mill workers and their families would be homeless.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  168. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Like most jumped up prole “educated” Marxist Europeans you despise America and Americans. We get it.

    Post all the reading lists you want. Post your 1950s Marxism and European cultural supremacy. We don’t care and we are not influenced by your opinions.

    Sneering at us will not convince us to believe your constant assertions that we are ignorant hillbilly trash far inferior to you cultured superior Europeans.

    Why not post about Muslim dominated Rotterdam and Amsterdam, legal prostitution of E European slave women owned by Albanian, Russian and other immigrant pimps, Amsterdams reputation as the world capitol of drug addiction the quiet establishment of sharia law the submission of the Dutch elite from the royal family to the small town mayors and aldermen to Muslims instead of the deplorable degeneracy of America

    • Agree: RVBlake
    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  169. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    When jilles retired he made a year long trip to the USA in a big what we call a recreation vehicle what you call a caravan. He found absolutely nothing to praise about America and Americans.

    His posts about that trip are genicide of Indians no health care and how dumb and ignorant Americans are. It’s a lot like that 1830s Mrs Trollope who traveled all over America and found everything wrong and nothing right.
    His other posts consist of 500 year old Calvinism and re fighting 500 year old European wars.

  170. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Austria was part of the British empire at the time. Australia like India Canada Singapore Kenya etc had no choice . Did you think Australia was an independent nation?

    Arn’t you the most intelligent and best informed man in the world?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  171. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Australia had no choice. It was a territory of the British Empire. And what has WW1 have to do with the article being discussed? We get it. You hate Spain France Italy and GB and admire only Netherlands and Germany and utterly absolutely despise America and Americans.

  172. Anon[330] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Old Jewish Way: “You(Jews) shall have no other gods before Me.”

    New Jewish Way: “You(goyim) shall have no other identities before ours.”

    Jews went from mono-theism to mono-identity-ism. Only Jewish identity is real identity, and all others are false identities, and so, goyim must all serve Jewish Identity.

    No Identity for Palestinians, No identity for Syrians, and No Identity for Europeans and Euro-Americans. All exist to serve “Is it good for Jews?” If it means millions of Arabs must die in Wars for Israel, so be it. If it means whites must lose their homelands, so be it.

    • Agree: Rurik
  173. @nsa

    Sounds exactly like Aberdeen, Scotland or Aberdare, Wales. Disability benefit is £25,000 a year. I suspect that the UK government is tougher. They have their own doctors. The Labour party finds discharged people who died a week later with regularity.

  174. augusto says: • Website

    I guess mr derbishire better get used to NOT being called a pig white supremacist anylonger.
    It might turn not a relief but an aggravation instead.
    He must just wait for further ten, twelve years which flies in a jiffy.
    We will all have pity on him if he ever still havens such self adjusting sentiments.

  175. I suspect New Zealand is well down the list, because you actually have to apply yourself strongly to whatever occupation you’ve committed to. NZ does not have the excess wealth generated by natural resource deposits that many large landmass nations do, therefore the ability for many sub-par businesses & sub-par humans to maintain themselves with less effort, decreases markedly, ergo, the attractiveness drops off for those who are bottom feeders and likewise those who want to swim in super nutrient rich currents like CAN, US, AUS etc. It also has not been able to structure itself as a physical trading hub for geographic reasons, nor has it made itself a financial hub for the “corrupterati” for legal reasons.You have to work intelligently with limited resources and consciously support those who will assist with this. Right next door as well, is Oceania’s version of Jupiter, creating a figurative, immigration gravity well, that drags bodies in movement in to its clutches, the gigantic & super resource rich, Australia. NZ actually benefits greatly for its relative lack of excess wealth and the proximity of AUS, as it attracts many of those middle ground folks, that seek more than dollar chasing activities to fill their lives and are by default, not averse to trading extra effort for its rewards.

  176. @Rurik

    I wish you guys would shut up about the Jews for a while. Every frigging conversation gets back to the Jews on this site.

  177. @Plato's Dream

    Same is true of the UK, and their invaders are far more Muslim, Arab, and African than the USA, which is overwhelmingly being settled by mestizo white/Indian Mexicans, Latin Americans, and Asians, in that order.

    (Using “Asian”, as often here, mainly to mean Chinese, Korean, and Filipino, not Indian from India.)

    So it would seem that demographically and culturally, the UK is the least desireable partner for any such project of the countries listed.

    Also not clear that it makes sense to partner with an increasingly Indian and Chinese “Australia”, which apparently is starting to have bigger African-violence problems recently too.

  178. roonaldo says:

    May as well propose a collective suicide pact, the way these countries are headed. On the bright side, there’s still time to read “The Fatal Shore” by Robert Hughes, “A Distant Mirror” by Barbara Tuchman, and to watch “The Proposition” starring Guy Pearce and Ray Winstone.

  179. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Cagey Beast

    I wish you guys would shut up about the Jews for a while

    Cagey,
    If you go back and read my comment about Amsterdam and its Jewish capital usurping England…. that is objective history.

    Jewish monetary history IS one of usury and perfidious behavior i.e. nation wreckers. Britain’s current status cannot be understood absent investigation of Jewry.

    OK? That is just the objective and historical record, and because YOU don’t know about it, doesn’t change the facts.

    Most people are uneducated on the Jewish question because they have not bothered to educate themselves… in other words, they are ignorant.

    Most Western countries have laws preventing investigation of the Jewish question. Ask yourself why a investigation is taboo, unless there is “power” trying to maintain its power.

    Intelligent people notice patterns. You may or may not be attempting to chill investigation, but your result will be people even more determined to lift up the skirts of our Jewish friends to inspect their private parts.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  180. renfro says:
    @Cagey Beast

    I am bored with the Jews also but unfortunately we cant shut up about them because they wont shut up about everyone else.

  181. dfordoom says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    Australia and New Zealand bought GB protection against France by shedding their blood at Gallipoli.
    The countries felt threatened by French imperialism in the S Pacific, maybe too by German imperialism.

    Australians were prone to paranoia about European imperialist threats. There was intermittent hysteria about the (completely imaginary) Russian threat throughout the 19th century. But no-one in 1914 would have had any concerns over French imperialism.

    On the other hand there was undoubtedly some paranoia about German imperialism. The Germans did have New Guinea. So it probably is true that Australia’s enthusiasm for shedding blood for the Empire in 1914-1918 was partly a result of fear of the dastardly Germans.

    It’s ironic that in reality it was the Imperial Japanese Navy that protected Australia and NZ from any imperialist ambitions the Germans might have had. The alliance with Japan brought enormous benefits to the British in WW1. So of course in the 20s they not only abandoned the alliance they did so in a manner which caused maximum offence to the Japanese. Overnight they converted Japan from a loyal friend to a deadly enemy. It’s truly amazing that in the 20th century British foreign policy managed to be always stupid and wrong-headed. And today their foreign policy is still just as stupid and wrong-headed.

    Why would any country want anything to do with Britain?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  182. dfordoom says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    Churchill ran into FDR’s trap.

    Of all the imbeciles who have occupied 10 Downing Street in the past hundred years Churchill has to have been the most imbecilic. A staggering combination of selfishness, cynicism and utter stupidity.

  183. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Stan d Mute

    Fixing the IQ gap would not make negroes just like us, it would only make negroes with higher IQs. Attributing criminality or assimilation failure solely to IQ is claiming correlation equals causation.

    But that would mean accepting that social problems are complicated. The reason so many people embrace IQ fetishism is that it offers delightfully simplistic answers to complex problems.

    It’s almost as attractive as blaming the Jews for everything that’s wrong.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
  184. @MEFOBILLS

    Yeah right, because we can’t discuss the Jews elsewhere, we have to clog up places like this with endless Jew-naming. It’s really tiresome.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  185. dfordoom says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    Can you explain to me what the Australian interest was in fighting on the other side of the world ?

    We were not an independent nation at that time. We did not control our own foreign policy.

    The idea of having our own foreign policy would not have occurred to any Australian at that time. We still considered ourselves to be British. If Britain went to war we went to war. We assumed that Britain’s interest were our interests. We were of course wrong.

    What is inexcusable is that in 1939 we did the same thing again, even though we were by that time an independent nation conducting our own foreign policy. Or at least pretending to be an independent nation. Again we assumed that Britain’s interests were our interests. Again we were wrong.

    Since 1945 Australian foreign policy has been conducted from Washington DC. We assume that America’s interests are our interests. We are once again wrong.

    We never did have any interests in common with Britain. We never have had any interests in common with the U.S. either.

  186. anon[177] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The Labor Party Prime Minister of the day, a Scot named Andrew Fisher, declared that Australia would defend the Empire ”to the last man, and the last shilling”.
    Accurate reporting of the debacle at Gallipoli was embargoed, but the jig was up later in 1915, when Australians saw soldiers missing limbs disembarking from the returning ships.
    Fisher resigned, and returned to his U.K. masters, and there were surviving multiple amputees from Gallipoli still turning out for the Anzac Day march in the 1990s.

  187. Seraphim says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Churchill ran into ‘FDR’s trap’ when they planned together the sinking of the Lusitania in order to bring America in the war. Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty at the same time when FDR was Assistant Secretary of the Navy.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Christo
  188. The thing that puzzles me about Canada is popular attitudes to immigration. A majority, in the UK, Australia, and New Zealand are opposed to mass immigration, and have had it forced on them by economic and cultural elites operating behind the scenes. However, in Canada, opinion polls suggest most people actually support mass immigration. Even the Yellow Vests in Alberta (Anglo Canada’s most “redneck” state) say they aren’t opposed to liberal legal immigration. The only exception in Franco Quebec, which seems to be influenced by the nationalist/populist wave sweeping Continental Europe (polls suggest about 55 percent of people in Quebec want less immigration).

    • Replies: @anon1
    , @Hank Yobo
    , @Cagey Beast
  189. @follyofwar

    Are you still stuck up on the East-West divide of the Cold War? Hungary, Poland, and the Czech Republic (for three examples) aren’t much further east than Italy and they were far ahead in opposing Third World immigration.

    Fair point. I didn’t mean to sound like Italy was the only country to stand up to the immigration invasion. My hat is off to Poland and Hungary (I am not familiar with the situation in the Czech Republic).

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  190. @byrresheim

    You got that right. But Angles like Derb will never get over their economic displacement by Germany which brought on two World Wars and the destruction of the West’s bulwark against the Tribe’s Bolshevism. But of course Derb never acknowledges the Tribe anyway.

  191. MEFOBILLS says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Cagey,

    Yeah right, because we can’t discuss the Jews elsewhere, we have to clog up places like this with endless Jew-naming. It’s really tiresome.

    My comments on Jews and their relation to Britain is COMPLETELY RELEVANT to the subject at hand.

    The Anglosphere was created by “international credit” as it emanated from London.

    In fact, London became the “gold center” of the world, despite having no local sources of Gold.

    The “goldmen” ran their credit scheme of 10:1 credit on top of gold. This system then morphed into what we have today, and YES ABSOLUTELY, you cannot understand it without understanding the (((goldmen))) and their various maneuvers.

    You are attempting to chill discussion. Because you don’t know background information on Jewish monetary perfidy, especially as it applies to how it radiates out from London, then you cannot understand BIZWOG and hence the Anglosphere.

    You do have a point if some comments are gratuitous, don’t advance the subject at hand, and have no merit.

    I find that people who are not anti-semites are often lacking in moral fiber, or are ignorant of real history.

    Of course when I speak of Jews, I’m speaking of the maybe 10% of Jews who are predatory, and tend to be in leadership roles. Many Jews are innocent victims of their own in-group, but unfortunately they turn and bleet as one when there is a perceived attack. Truly, rank and file jewish sheeple are brainwashed.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  192. @Anon

    Lets establish who is more degenerate, and be done with it.

  193. @Logan

    Mongoloids are a second-tier race. They create nothing. I want Asians to stop culturally appropriating anything Western, i.e., telephones, computers, cars, airplanes, guns, the list is endless.

    I can recognize that Caucasoids are superior to Mongoloids. IQ is the most important factor, but this is tied to race. The Caucasoids are the most beautiful. I want Mongoloids to stop having plastic surgery on their eyes, bleaching their skin, and dying their hair lighter colors.

    I see Caucasoids, Mongoloids and Negroids. Caucasoids are the best.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  194. @Anon

    Your quote:
    Austria was part of the British empire at the time.

    Are you out of your mind?

    • Troll: Wizard of Oz
  195. Pontius says:
    @anon

    Canadians were British subjects “living abroad” until the 1940s so it wasn’t like we had any say in the matter. Mackenzie King was the first official Canadian/Non Brit in 1947.

    CANZUK would not work due to the French Canadian hatred of all things English. It would probably need a constitutional amendment which would require near or complete unanimity between all ten provinces before it would be approved. Quebecers seem to be big believers in big government/UN style initiatives such as multiculturalism, gun banning etc., so I don’t see them getting behind such an exclusionary arrangement. That’s even before you take into account likely native and minority opposition.

  196. anon1 says:
    @Dumbo

    It was Jews who invented “multiculturalism”.

  197. @Cagey Beast

    Jews are everywhere every time. so any which way you go you will have Jewish but in front of you.
    The problem is that they keep farthing. So you have to put on a gas mask. Once you put on a gas mask you cannot see left, you cannot see right you can only see straight, and when you see straight, you see only a Jewish but.
    Like now for example all you can see now only two Jewish buts (And they really show you their buts.)
    Peloshi and Shuman. They are showing their buts to entire population of USA.

  198. anon1 says:
    @unpc downunder

    Most white Canadians are very unhappy about the third world immigration and changes imposed on us. The polls are never structured in a way to reflect this. The Franco thing is very ironic. It was the Liberal party that opened Canada’s doors to the third world and they were 100% supported by Quebec. Could never have remained in power without her. Pierre Trudeau was the champion of non-white immigration and he was a Franco from Quebec.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  199. @dfordoom

    When Australian prime ministers tacitly agreed to accept refugees from the Vietnam War knowing full-well the degree to which Vietnamese would change Australia the country became part of Asia.

    Washington DC does not control Australian trade or immigration policies which are now skewing to favor Asian immigration.

    Geographically Australasia is part of the Pacific Rim. The economy has moved to Asia and the US just no longer is of any use to Australia.

    Australia was British when the people were. When Balkans and then Arabs and finally Asians mass-migrated, it ceased being part of UK.r

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  200. @attilathehen

    The average East Asian IQ exceeds yours.

  201. @dfordoom

    The idea of having our own foreign policy would not have occurred to any Australian at that time. We still considered ourselves to be British. If Britain went to war we went to war. We assumed that Britain’s interest were our interests. We were of course wrong.

    Australia and New Zealand at the time of Gallipoli were not at all sure that GB saw the countries as the interest of Britain.
    In order to ‘buy’ this interest, defence against France, maybe Germany too, Australians and New Zealanders died in large numbers in the Gallipoli madness.

    Right now I’m unable to remember in what book, or books, the colonial race among what was called ‘the Powers’ of around 1900 is described.
    Does anyone know, for example, how a visit of the German kaiser to the sultan of Morocco nearly caused a war ?
    The incident has a name, the name of the German navy ship that brought the kaiser to Morocco, where he, to the amusement of rival powers, France and GB, was unable to get ashore without getting wet, there was no harbour, just a jetty.

    Difficult now to envisage France and Germany as rival powers in the southern Pacific, especially because at Versailles all Germany’s colonies were taken from her.
    But anyone looking at a map can see that France still has a lot of islands in the Pacific, ‘has’, these islands are nominally independent, but rely on France for defence, etc.

    Those with French nationality living on these islands at each French election can vote by mail, they vote days ahead of the elections in France itself.

  202. @Seraphim

    That both men hoped for such a thing is clear, Churchill even said it more or less publicly.
    Do not know of any indication that FDR was involved in the sinking itself.
    Hardly possible, with the communication possibilities existing at the time.

  203. @MEFOBILLS

    10% of Jews who are predatory, and tend to be in leadership roles. Many Jews are innocent victims of their own in-group

    We fully agree.
    Examples exist of rich jews not interested at all in poor jewish refugees.
    Danish jews were smuggled to neutral Sweden in WWII.
    Rich jews living in Sweden saw them as a nuisance.

  204. @dfordoom

    But no-one in 1914 would have had any concerns over French imperialism.

    On the other hand there was undoubtedly some paranoia about German imperialism.

    Of course, the evil Germans.
    French were good people, Ho Chi Min’s deep hatred of the French was completely irrational.

    Anthony Grey, ‘Saigon, Een grootse roman over Vietnam in de periode 1925 – 1975’, Amsterdam 1987
    Someth May, ´Cambodian Witness, The autobiography of Someth May, edited and with an introduction by James Fenton, London 1986
    Paul Bonnecarrère, ´Par le sang versé, La Legion étrangère en Indochine’ , Paris, 1968, 2006
    Alistair Horne, ‘A savage war of peace, Algeria 1954-1962’, 1972, 2002, New York

    Reading these books might change your ideas about French colonial behaviour.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  205. Hank Yobo says:
    @unpc downunder

    However, in Canada, opinion polls suggest most people actually support mass immigration.

    “I’ve always been fond of dogs, and they are the one animal that knows the proper treatment to give to poles.” John George Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada (1957-1963)

  206. @Cagey Beast

    Is there any problem in the world in which jews are not involved ?

  207. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Australia was part of the British empire.

  208. @unpc downunder

    Off the top of my head I’d say Canadians are lying to the pollsters or the pollsters themselves are lying. Judging from everything I see online, or hear in conversations, Canadians are tired of this much immigration.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  209. RVBlake says:
    @dfordoom

    Correct. Nor are DC’s policies in the interest of the American people. Creatures like Bolton and Pompeo are not operating with the denizens of Fly-Over Country in mind, with the exception of providing cannon fodder.

  210. RVBlake says:
    @Square Wheeled Hot Rod

    Lately, Denmark appears to be dealing with their Muslim inhabitants more decisively as well.

  211. RVBlake says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I assumed he meant Australia, as is clarified later.

  212. Sackerson says:

    Favourite destinations: you forgot Germany at #2 – after all, it’s where the Angles and Saxons came from.

  213. Catiline says:

    Well Mr Unz, look what happens when you let British riff raff into your site.

  214. anarchyst says:
    @Cagey Beast

    You are correct. Canadians have been muzzled by “hate speech” laws. All one has to do is look at the WW2 historians who were put on trial for questioning “that which may not be questioned”–the jewish “holohoax” (oops, I mean “holocaust”)…

  215. Rurik says:
    @Cagey Beast

    I wish you guys would shut up about the Jews for a while. Every frigging conversation gets back to the Jews on this site.

    Not every conversation. I enjoy bloviating on a myriad of subjects here at Unz, and only mention Jews when it’s salient to do so:

    9/11

    Eternal Wars for Israel

    Hollywood cultural sewage

    Academia spiritual and intellectual sewage

    Endemic Wall Street swindle$

    religious sewage a la Holocaustianity

    atrocities in Gaza, Ukraine and elsewhere..

    earning the world’s justified hatred by slaughtering, maiming and displacing millions of Muslim men, women and children the world over. (Who have done the people of the US exactly zero harm but whom Israel considers inconvenient to further Jewish supremacist hegemony in the Greater Levant). Duh.

    America’s participation in the world wars

    The Satanic thievery of the ((Federal Reserve Bank))

    So you may hector us to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain (or at the podium)

    But for those of us trying to make heads or tails out of the evils unfolding in the world around us, pray you’ll forgive us (or not ; ) when we just happen to notice Why and on Whose behalf these terrible wrongs (and yes, evils) are being perpetrated.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  216. @anon1

    He brought in the Haitians and Lebanese to bring more French-speakers into Canada.

  217. @Pontius

    Quebec is not exactly important anyhow. Toronto is important. Vancouver is important. But Quebec? To who?

  218. Christo says:
    @Seraphim

    This is some stuff , I have never heard before, and I’ve looking at FDR , Churchill, the Two World Wars , their causes, etc. for a while. Never heard of FDR having anything to do with the Lusitania sinking. And how could he have ? Could you provide any links to info on this?

    I had assumed jilles’s meaning of a (FDR trap) pertained to events/actions leading to US involvement WWII not WWI, and it meant ( the mid to late 1930s’ non-public messages FDR sent to Poland and England pertaining to a guarantee of the USA siding with Poland, and supporting England if Germany attacked Poland and England declaring war on Germany because of it). All that did happen historically , so I fail to see where a “trap” was in the first place. And also any such “trap”(the support guarantee) was “sent/set” long before Churchill was prime minister , or even before Churchill regained enough influence/power to be the target of such a nonexistent trap.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  219. @Jeff Stryker

    Largest part of Canadian industries are in Quebec. (Built by English and Italians but it does not mater anymore. I guess.)

    • Replies: @Hank Yobo
  220. @Rurik

    Cagey Beast
    In essence you made us a compliment, or, one might say, you’re blaming jews for not being able to hide sufficiently what they’re doing .
    But, I must admit, not easy these days.

    When New York senator Hillary Clinton during her visit to Israel held a speech there, and said something as ‘anything was the fault of Arafat’, if she foresaw that her words would be known all over the world in a few hours, I wonder.
    Copying her mails on a portable CD player, who foresaw this ?
    Obama and Sarkozy discussing Netanyahu’s lies near an open microphone, who can blame them ?
    Sharon saying ‘we control America’ in a heated direct broadcasted discussion, slip of the tongue.
    Then there is Golda Meir’s ‘Palestinians do not exist’.

  221. niceland says:

    This idea isn’t very radical so to speak. Free trade agreement and free flow of people. I am not sure how this ties into Mr. Derbyshire longing to be ‘just left alone’ However it’s perhaps a natural reflex for old British guys to look abroad like they have done for centuries.

    Quick look at a map explains why the British were so occupied with; exploration, expansion, colonies, foreign trade etc. Their very own share of the Globe isn’t very big or rich in natural resources for nation of their size. The Vikings raided the British Isles from Scandinavia in couple of centuries. They had magnificent ships and robbed, traded and gathered wealth from far and wide. There is no question the British inherited and learned from their foes. Later to became a major sea-faring nation with all the possibilities that goes along with it.

    Trade and plundering made them an world empire. It’s a mentality that’s still with them, and perhaps the US inherited this mentality, something that could explain it’s behavior. For long time it didn’t really kick in because of the enormous size of the US. It took centuries to build up critical mass before the British “Island” mentality kicked in and foreign resources became tempting enough to shift their focus outwards.

    For the British the situation now seems dire. They have long since lost all their colonies but they have managed to hold on to their status as major trading hub, and even more importantly a massive financial center -thanks to the Jews perhaps? The question is, how will their financial empire fare if/when they leave the EU? It’s worth remembering this is a sizable portion of the UK economy. And it’s fragile! Without it, what is the UK? A small Island in the North Atlantic with way too many people?

    As for the “Anglospere” it’s just a short blink in history, with all the mixing of peoples in middle age Europe I find it hard to believe genes separate Anglos from the rest of Europe. And the Island mentality – you be the judge. All this seems to be wishful thinking about glorious past with little connection to today’s reality.

  222. @Christo

    All that did happen historically , so I fail to see where a “trap” was in the first place.

    You seem to ignore that FDR in 1933 began a regular correspondence with at the time jobless politician Churchill, messages went through the USA embassy in London, Churchill’s code name was ‘naval person’.
    Parts, large parts, of this correspondence still are secret, no country is so secretive as the British, as far as I know the British Admiralty orders to the Lusitania are secret to this day.

    Anyhow, the book I already mentioned a few times, on the Casablanca conference between FDR and Churchill, explains how just there and then Churchill discovered the FDR trap, no special relationship, except the specialty of an ally giving up its empire.
    Churchill there was just FDR’s errand boy, trying to persuade De Gaulle in coming to Casablanca.
    Francois Kersaudy, ´De Gaulle et Roosevelt, Le duel au sommet’, Paris, 2004

    If Churchill knew of the price of LendLease, I do not know.
    Contrary to FDR Churchill was more a supreme commander of the British forces than a politician.
    That LendLease had a price tag for GB is even now little known, I suppose.
    Do not know about price tags for other recipients of LendLease help.

    The GB price, eliminating all preferential tariffs for GB in the British empire, is just mentioned casually in
    R.F. Harrod, ‘THE PROF, A personal memoir of Lord Cherwell’, London, 1959
    Cherwell was prof Lindemann, physicist, Churchill’s closest advisor, Harrod was an economist.
    Lindemann was the spiritual father of the RAF genocide on German civilians.

    John Charmley,’Churchill’s Grand Alliance, A provocative reassessment of the “Special relationship” between England and the U.S. from 1940 to 1957’, 1995, London
    John Charmley, ‘Der Untergang des Britischen Empires, Roosevelt – Churchill und Amerikas Weg zur Weltmacht’, Graz 2005
    Charmley is a British historian, in these two books he completely debunks the ‘special relationship’, at the same time exposing Churchill as a naive man, who loved war.
    This love one already sees in his first book
    Winston Churchill, ‘The Story of the Malakand Field Force’, 1898, 2004, New York

  223. niceland says:

    I can see some commenters are criticizing Mr. Derbyshire for his Jewish angle, or perhaps lack thereof.

    Possibly Mr. Derbyshire is fully aware the modern banking system, and even the financial system in general has it’s roots in England. And it played no small part in the history and success of the British for centuries. And it still does. Is it fair to say it’s largely a Jewish construct?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Rurik
  224. @niceland

    You underestimate the British economy, you do not see how Britons want their country back, no free settlement within the EU.
    GB never introduced the euro, Brussel did restrict severely GB’s freedom of own economic policies.
    The EU idea, nations giving up sovereignty until they disappear, in my opinion no more than a German, Dutch, Belgium, Luxembourg idea, and the idea of the French ruling class.
    Maybe of some in Poland too.
    Both we Dutch and French voted against the so called EU constitution in 2005.

    I now see ‘news’ that there may be no Brexit.
    Not impossible of course, Brussels did anything to prevent that more countries would leave, this ‘anything’ of course again at the expense of the common people in the EU member states.

    Even if there is no Brexit, I wonder if it makes any difference.
    Anyone who follows the EU politically sees that there is more and more antagonism, rising tensions.
    French Yellow Vests, in essence are against the EU, an EU that wants to ‘modernise’ France, with Macron as executive.
    Politicologists know that constructions as the EU most of the time fall apart.
    If the EU no longer exists at the end of 2019, it would not surprise me.

    Does anyone here know that in November 2018 the USA lowered the status of the two EU embassies in the USA, New York and Washington, from ‘state representative’ to ‘NGO representative’ ?
    The EU was not even informed.
    An ambassador found out at a reception, where he was assigned a place in the line waiting to shake hands, at end of the line, in stead of in front.

    • Replies: @niceland
  225. @niceland

    Banking existed all over Europe for a very long time.
    Charles P. Kindleberger, ‘A Financial History of Western Europe’, 1984, London, Boston, Sydney

    • Replies: @niceland
  226. niceland says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Thanks for the reply.

    I have little disagreement with what you say. But in my view the British situation is very difficult. They depend on the huge EU internal market, both for goods but even more importantly for their financial services. The EU can really hurt them if political winds blow in this direction. The Pro Brexit club is – for a good reason- fed up with the current situation. However I don’t think they realize how depended the UK economy is on it’s status as international financial center. And Brexit could be detrimental to the UK economy for this reason. Will the big international banks and insurance companies move their business to the mainland?

    Thoughts?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  227. J1234 says:
    @Stan d Mute

    I was really speaking more of a larger era of the sports car, from post WW2 on. It’s hard for me to come up with a more beautiful production sports car than the 1954 Maserati A6 GCS Berlinetta coupe bodied by PininFarina. Or even as beautiful. Yes, Maserati only made a few of them (Enzo was apparently upset with PininFarina for making bodies for a competitor, so it’s said he quashed the project) but in my mind it’s still a production car. Speaking of Enzo and the British, he did say that Jag’s XKE was the most beautiful car ever made, but I still go with the Maserati Berlinetta. That must’ve been awesome visiting with Penske.

    http://archaictires.tumblr.com/post/68670023273/1954-maserati-a6gcs53-berlinetta-by-pininfarina

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  228. niceland says:
    @jilles dykstra

    It seems to be the prevailing idea here on the Unz Review that communism is a Jewish construct. I ask: what about modern banking, and even capitalism?

    Since you have read so many books, and you are economist to boot, I like to see your thoughts about this.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  229. Rurik says:
    @niceland

    his Jewish angle, or perhaps lack thereof.

    Hey niceland,

    Are you aware of any “white supremacists” today, who’re demanding ethnic hegemony over non-whites (and are busy murdering them in order to steal their lands)?

    How many “white supremacists” are you aware of who routinely murder indigenous non-whites protesting their genocide? Or shoot their non-white children with sniper rifles for fun?

    How many “white supremacists” have foisted the Eternal Wars, since 9/11?

    How many “white supremacists” do you know who consider themselves divinely chosen as better people than all other races or tribes?

    I don’t know of even one such “white supremacist”, and yet this smear of “white supremacist” is plastered all over the media because of white people who’re reluctant about being replaced with non-whites, (who will not treat them fairly).

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6581753/Race-row-South-Africa-health-officials-advertise-100-new-doctors-not-white-medics.html

    Calling such people “white supremacists”, is as absurd (and insulting and duplicitous and Orwellian) as calling Palestinian protesters ‘Palestinian supremacists’.

    But that hasn’t stopped the (((msm))) from using such repugnantly weaponized and loaded smears in order to foment their (anti-white, anti-Palestinian – Jewish supremacist) agenda, now has it?

    OK, fine. They do what they do, and always have and always will.

    But do the victims of this genocidal farce have to stick to using their Orwellian language?

    As Jewish supremacists have been waging a terror war on Palestinians, (and Iraqis and Iranians and Libyans and Syrians and Russians and Ukrainians …)

    .. are their victims to be cowed from even calling them the Jewish supremacist (scum) that they are?

    BTW, I always take care to delineate the innocent and peaceable Jews who are not Jewish supremacists. Many are even heroic in their defense of human decency, like Dr. Alan Sabrosky, and Stephen Cohen, (our host here at Unz), and many, many others.

    But let’s not kid ourselves about the motivations of the Jewish supremacists demanding fealty to Israel, and Eternal Wars and mass immigration, and hatred of white Christians, and so many of the other evils that plague our world today.

    This just in..

    ..30%+ fewer Democrats than Republicans support withdrawal from Syria and Afghanistan. (See thread). A clear byproduct of two years of Clockwork Orange-style indoctrination by MSNBC’s wall to wall lineup of spooks & neocons selling war thru partisan identity.

    This didn’t happen by itself, and it didn’t happen by accident. American liberals didn’t just spontaneously start thinking endless military occupations of sovereign nations is a great idea yesterday, nor have they always been so unquestioningly supportive of the agendas of the US war machine. No, Democrats support the unconscionable bloodbaths that their government is inflicting around the world because they have been deliberately, methodically paced into that belief structure by an intensive mass media propaganda campaign.

    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2019/01/11/new-poll-us-military-occupations-supported-by-far-more-democrats-than-republicans/

    Now, if you’ve been living in an isolated tribe in the Amazon for the last few decades, then I suppose you could be forgiven for not knowing exactly who it is who own and control the “mass media” here in the dying West.

    But for most of us, the owners of the ‘mass media’ are very well known, and the proper term to call them is *not* Ashkenazi supremacists.

    That is the cowed terminology of a cowed (and defeated and humiliated and doomed) people.

    I understand if your at the office ‘Holiday party’, but if you’re a writer whose schtick is to flay open the pall of lies and sinister forces aligned against your people, in order to lead them to the gates of salvation, but you don’t have the courage to even mention the causes behind your collective ruin, then I just wonder if you’re doing more harm than good. That’s all.

    • Replies: @niceland
  230. MEFOBILLS says:
    @niceland

    It seems to be the prevailing idea here on the Unz Review that communism is a Jewish construct. I ask: what about modern banking, and even capitalism?

    I can answer this.

    Finance Capitalism is a Jewish Construct. Taking Usury is a Jewish Construct.

    Usury is allowed in Talmudic Judaism, and Talmudism got a big boost after Sevi in 1666, but has always been part of the “verbal tradition.”

    Industrial Capitalism uses State Credit (created as sovereign money), which CHANNELS into industry to then improve the commons.

    Probably the first industrial capital locale/invention was in Massachusetts, where there wasn’t enough metal money, so the local leaders came up with the idea of giving credit (bank money) to then build out the commons. In this case, they had iron ore that needed to be fashioned into goods, including cannon.

    The colony also allowed Mass Bills to come into existence, which were issued by the State, and were good for taxes – basically the first debt free money. All of the merchants were instructed to take the credit in payment for goods.

    So, this colony used its CREDIT to build out the commons, and the credit circulated in a virtuous cycle, and additionally had they had mass bills which could pay the interest. The bills also channeled correctly. Massachusetts bills were just issued debt free as coupons, and they circulated beside the bank credit, and said bank credit only channeled into improving the commons.

    Later, in the Pennsylvania Colony, Franklin took Mather’s ideas and issued credit based on land to then put this money type into circulation. The land was 8 year notes, which would not go exponential with usury. Also, Franklin issued additional money into the commons so people could pay back the interest.

    With regards to Bank of England and Jews, that system is private bank credit created at usury, to then HOST a people and a state. It is a parasitic control relation, where people voluntarily hypothecate themselves into forever debts, or debts become public and have to be paid through taxes.

    The British Aristocracy soon saw themselves as being the lost tribe of Judea, especially as Jews married into royalty. There were other Jewish tricks to displace the Royals of their lands, including gambling debt scams.

    So, if you are a group that is intent on hosting a population, there are ways to do it through the money system, or the money system can be adjusted to be moral.

    Money’s true nature is law. NOT METAL. NOT CREDIT. Our Jewish friends pervert the law to carve out space for themselves as part of their advanced evolutionary constructs.

    Double entry credit isn’t inherently evil, but it can be made so. Finance Capitalism is state sponsored usury. Industrial Capitalism is Sovereign credit issued into the commons and industry. Communism was funded into existence by Finance Capital out of Wall Street and London, which is why our (((Friends))) are complicit in gas lighting populations with false constructs that do harm, but are good for the Jews.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @niceland
  231. The major Supremacist today, is the White Israeli Supremacist in the Apartheid State with the open air prisons. Also, in America, the Old White Male Jewish Supremacists(e.g. Harvey Weinstein) that are targets of the Me Too # movement.

  232. @MEFOBILLS

    Banking already existed in the Egypt of the pharao’s.
    The currency was a loaf of bread.
    Since for higher officials being paid in enormous quantities of bread was not very practical the priests of the temples were the banking accountants.
    Barry J. Kemp, ‘Ancient Egypt, Anatomy of a Civilisation’, London, 1989, 1991

    Dutch trading ships, other nations did the same, hardly ever carried gold or silver.
    When this practice began, do not know quite well.
    In Europe Italians were among the first bankers, though long before yearly, or even more frequent, meetings of bankers were in France, Lyon is mentioned, to clear between what was called ‘houses’, in fact bankers.

    The Augsburg Fuggers got notoriety by financing the bribe by a petty German king to the pope, he paid in order to be elected Emperor of Germany, why the position was so lucrative, I never understood.
    Anyhow, the Fuggers wanted their money back, suggested to the Emperor to raise the money by selling indulgences, pieces of paper that kept you out of hell.
    Monk Tetzel travelled through what now is Germany, selling his pieces of paper.
    For Luther this was the final incentive to criticise the catholic church.

    So you see, banksters are not something recent.

  233. niceland says:
    @Rurik

    I offer you this thought:
    In the past century the US has been fighting communism, – according to most unz commenters – a Jewish construct. This epic fight perhaps served the purpose of promoting the opposite. Capitalism. The epic fight between good and evil so to speak.

    So, in the meantime the US has been worshiping another construct, Capitalism. A system that is arguably as much Jewish construct as communism ever was. And even better suited for exploitation of the masses than communism.

    For the love of profit and Gordon Gekko mentality the US elites outsourced industries to Asia, destroyed American retail for Amazon domination, sold out the masses to the tech giant’s – where the people are the product and corporations are the customer and so forth. All in the name of “free markets” and “capitalism”. This policy has largely been accepted by the public as some kind of law of nature.

    Strange isn’t it?

  234. niceland says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    For the most part I agree with you I think I have read similar history. This rises the question: Why persecute the Jews for their influence in communism but not their role in creating our current capitalistic financial system?

    It doesn’t fit into the picture somehow, since capitalism is GOOD and Jews are BAD?
    There are some serious potholes in this road.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
    , @peterAUS
  235. Rurik says:

    In the past century the US has been fighting communism, – according to most unz commenters – a Jewish construct. This epic fight perhaps served the purpose of promoting the opposite. Capitalism. The epic fight between good and evil so to speak.

    Well, that is of course ‘the narrative’, but it has very little (nothing) to do with reality.

    As has been mentioned, banking was invented a long time ago. I’ve heard that it started in earnest in Babylon around the 18th century BC, but when it started isn’t so important as what it is and how it’s used today.

    Banking started when a man had some wealth but didn’t want to carry it around with him, because gold is heavy and also because someone can take it from you. But if you put it in a bank, then they give you a piece of paper that is as good as gold. But then they figured out that when people treat this paper like gold, what’s to keep them from printing more pieces of paper, and creating the ‘gold’-like wealth, without actually having the gold. Hence you have modern banking.

    And the guy with the printing press, has unlimited wealth/power, at his finger tips. And those people during the creation of communism were Jewish supremacist bankers. It was Jewish supremacist bankers who funded Trotsky and sent him to Russia with suitcases full of money. in order to foment Bolshevism (genocidal slavery of the goyim).

    So communism was just the other side of the coin of Jewish supremacist capitalism = the Federal Reserve bank – their own privately owned printing pre$$.

    In a sane world, capitalism, (minus the fraud and treachery of fiat currency), would be a fine system where a man with some extra wealth would invest in another man’s efforts to create wealth, and they both would profit and prosper. But this system hasn’t worked in this country ever since Woodrow Wilson betrayed us all and handed the keys of the US Treasury over the world’s greediest and most ((evil men)). (Wilson also facilitated Trotsky’s efforts to subvert Russia by intervening in Canada when the authorities had the snake in custody).

    Capitalism today is a form of klepto-crony-capitalism, and is used as a weapon by Jewish supremacists to impose their vision of the world on the rest of us. That’s why America now runs a torture camp, for instance. And why unarmed Palestinian protesters are shot by laughing Jewish supremacist snipers, (bullets paid for by the ZUSA tax slave). It’s why British school girls are gang raped with impunity by middle aged Muslim immigrants. It’s why Negros and homosexuals are considered sacrosanct, and working class white men in N. America and Europe are today’s niggers.

    If it weren’t for the serial treachery of assorted Jewish supremacist banksters, Bolshevism would never have existed. America would have never intervened in WWI. There would never have been any WWII, because there never would have been any Nazis. Because Nazism was a direct consequence of Bolshevism. A survival mechanism for Germany when Germany saw just what the Jewish supremacist Bolsheviks had in mind for them, by seeing what was done to the Kulaks, for instance. The German people didn’t want to die starving in their streets, as they had already had a taste of that when Wilson tricked them into starvation with his Fourteen Points ruse.

    I suppose this is a little disjointed, but I am trying to fit a lot of history into a small space.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  236. MEFOBILLS says:
    @niceland

    capitalism is GOOD and Jews are BAD?

    Niceland, people that believe that are dupes.

    Some capitalism = Good. Some Jews = Bad

    As I mentioned earlier, industrial capitalism for the most part is good. If we (as humanity) combine industrial capitalism with some sort of Sovereign money, or even Douglas Social Credit, then usury within the money systems is overcome. We are at the point in history were we cannot allow tricksters to pull their crap anymore.

    Jews are the standard bearers for Usury, it is the tap-root for the tribe, where they extract life energy from their host. It is a evolutionary construct honed over thousands of years.

    You can go back into pre-history with the Haibaru Donkey Caravaneers, where they plied their merchant trade between city states. These were outcast people because city states would shun their muderous citizens and banish them. Entrepot cities developed between the city states, and the “merchant” was housed in these outlying entrepots.

    The merchant through envy would always want to break down the walls of the city states, and to do this took various forms of trickery.

    The metal money East West mechanism was controlled by our Jewish Caravaneer friends, and they would take usury on the exchange rate differences between metals (Silver from the West and Gold from the East). This east west scheme helped extend the dark ages as gold was consecrated to the vaults.

    Mecca was an entrepot city on the Caravan routes, so even Islam is an outgrowth of Jewish money maneuvers.

    Any in-group of people can maneuver to take rents and usury, but some (((Groups))) have codified the mechanism in their ideology/controlling documents. In other words, they are in thrall to bad ideology e.g. talmudism or “verbal tradition.”

    See Usury in Christendom by Hoffman if you think bad behavior is a sole function of Jews. Smart people notice patterns, and if our Jew friends have engaged in this bad behavior over the long span of recorded history, then they have – it is an objective fact. It is also another objective fact that non-jews are apologists for state sponsored usury inherent in finance capitalism, especially if they benefit from it.

    • Replies: @niceland
  237. MEFOBILLS says:

    Banking already existed in the Egypt of the pharao’s.

    Jiles,

    Modern day banking came into being with the Italians, especially their invention of the double entry ledger. Later, our Jewish friends evolved the system.

    Italians, being Christians were forbidden from taking usury, so some Italians imported Jews to do the trick for them.

    In Venice, if you had gold, you had to turn it in to the state bank. From then on, you had to use ledger entries to buy and sell goods. Gold would flux back out from the state bank as payment to government employees, and from there it would soon leave to buy foreign goods. Venice craftsman would then recall their former gold with the sales of their wares. The original capital of the state bank was gifted by rich people, and it remained as an endowment.

    With regards to Egypt, they used a form of demur-age. They kept records of how much grain was in the silos on clay shards. The shards were the money and the figures on said shards would decrement as mice ate the grain. Gold hoops were used both for jewelry and for trading goods long distance.

    At this point, it must be noticed that our Jew friends have a bible/torah story about taking over the grain of egypt, and they came to own most of the “money” in the form of grains. This taking of something for nothing is Usury – a specialty of the tribe, and something lauded as “good” for them.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  238. peterAUS says:
    @niceland

    This rises the question: Why persecute the Jews for their influence in communism but not their role in creating our current capitalistic financial system?

    It doesn’t fit into the picture somehow, since capitalism is GOOD and Jews are BAD?
    There are some serious potholes in this road.

    Hahahaha…..oh man. You really shouldn’t have asked that question.
    Fear not. Your education starts now. I have a feeling it will go along the lines “fooling in”, “deception”, “made us do it” and similar.
    Brace yourself.

  239. Hank Yobo says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Actually, Canada’s “Industrial Heartland,” or at least what was left of it after the disastrous Free Trade Agreement with the US and subsequently NAFTA, was found in southern Ontario between Oshawa and Windsor. Of course, Alberta has the Oil Patch.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  240. @Jeff Stryker

    Quebec matters to itself, its neighbouring provinces and the next set of provinces over.

    • Agree: RVBlake
  241. @Pontius

    Canada could have adopted the liberties within the British Empire that the Irish Free State enjoyed after the Statute of Westminster (1931) but it chose not to.
    https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/statute-of-westminster

    As to the rest of your comment, I’m glad to be stuck with Quebecers and the other French-Canadians, than be in a CANZUKUS marriage. French Canada has been far more help than harm to my people, when compared to the loving folks in London, Washington, New York and Hollywood. It’s not even close.

    • Replies: @Hank Yobo
  242. @Cagey Beast

    Unz review is primarily an antisemitic website (it’s clearly the issue Ron Unz cares most about), so that’s not surprising.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  243. @German_reader

    I’d say it differently but your pretty much correct. This site ministers to Jews struggling with Emancipation. It uses talk therapy to walk them through this part of the multi-generational journey of their people. As a part of that, this site give free rein to every goyboy with a keyboard and a conspiracy theory.

    Overall, I think this free speech group therapy works. I just find it annoying when it intrudes on other topics, as it has here. The diaspora of the British Isles need to have their own conversations among ourselves.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  244. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jeff Stryker

    Washington DC does not control Australian trade or immigration policies which are now skewing to favor Asian immigration.

    I was talking about foreign policy.

    Geographically Australasia is part of the Pacific Rim. The economy has moved to Asia and the US just no longer is of any use to Australia.

    Yes and with luck we will eventually cease to be a U.S. vassal. We will become a Chinese vassal. The one option Australians will never ever choose is independence. Which is perhaps sensible and understandable. Independence is an option for countries powerful enough to enforce their independence. It is not an option for countries like Australia or Canada.

    If Australia has to be someone’s vassal better China than the U.S. or Britain.

  245. MEFOBILLS says:

    Unz review is primarily an antisemitic website (it’s clearly the issue Ron Unz cares most about), so that’s not surprising.

    When your young and if not a liberal, you lack heart. When older if you are not a conservative you lack a brain.

    If you educate yourself on the Jewish question, and reluctantly become an anti-semite, then you are no longer a dupe.

  246. dfordoom says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    But no-one in 1914 would have had any concerns over French imperialism.

    On the other hand there was undoubtedly some paranoia about German imperialism.

    Of course, the evil Germans.
    French were good people

    You’ve misunderstood my point. I would never suggest that there was anything good about the French (I believe that the dumbest thing any nation can do is to ally itself with the French). But in 1914 Australians did not see French imperialism as a threat. The French did not have a strong enough navy to threaten British colonial possessions. Whether the French were nice or vicious was irrelevant. They lacked the capacity to be a threat.

    The Germans on the other hand appeared to be seriously threatening Britain’s naval supremacy. And they were actively seeking new colonies and they were interested in colonies in Asia and the Pacific. Paranoia about the German threat was not unreasonable.

  247. MEFOBILLS says:

    Cagey,

    You are being disingenuous.

    I just find it annoying when it intrudes on other topics, as it has here.

    Cut it out.

    Our Jewish friends very much invaded London, and became entrenched via the money system. The “square mile” in London is bankster owned land, where even the Queen cannot go without permission.

    ENGLAND CANNOT BE UNDERSTOOD without understanding credit as it emanated from City of London. This credit was “free market” where it would put debts on the world. The entire corpus of Free Market with private bank credit originated here, and went on to try to take over the world.

    All of the colonies were “corporate” ventures at first. They were funded with stock market capital. And absolutely YES, our Jewish friends were prime movers.

    Even when Jews moved to the Colonies, they would set up banks, sort of like follow along parasites. Usually they were both private bankers and merchants, plying their trade. So, the story of the Colonies, and the animating force behind them is also one of Jewish method.

    And next your going to tell us that the slave trade had nothing to do with our friends either?

    If you are ignorant of history, then the proper response is to listen and learn instead of bleating out your insecurities.

    BIZWOG (Britain Israel World Government) is a City of London/Zionist construct. The Anglosphere morphed into BIZWOG, especially after WW2.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Wizard of Oz
  248. Seraphim says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    He is parroting Dubya! But generally speaking it reflects adequately the extent of geography knowledge among the indispensable nation. It doesn’t know exactly in which world they live.

    • Replies: @Anon
  249. Rdm says:

    @Derby,

    You might think that all people want to migrate to so-called Anglosphere. In fact, give the land of Australia to late Mr. Lee Kuan Yew, everyone will migrate to Australia for sure.

    The fact of the matter here is, most of those places people want to migrate to are lands where British and French scrambled and looted in the first place.

    Or give the land of Canada to Chinese and see if people want to migrate there.

    What you’re saying is, one-sided historical experiment where only British and French looted the entire world.

    No one wants to migrate to Poland, Hungary, Austria, Spain, Portugal.

  250. @Cagey Beast

    It may not just be goyboys with a keyboard. I comment on other websites and the insane, anti-Semitism is so nutty, I think some of it is sponsored by the government or other groups. I see this as a way not to deal with the JQ in a straightforward manner.

    The comments by gentile males involved with Asian females is a window into the problems caused by these kinds of relationships. The cuck gentiles start babbling about the superior Asian IQ and other such nonsense. They purpose degeneracy by stating that whites and Asians should mingle and that some superior new race will be produced. This new race will deal with the Jews. Sheer madness!!!

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  251. @MEFOBILLS

    Cut it out.

    No.

    If you are ignorant of history, then the proper response is to listen and learn instead of bleating out your insecurities

    Listen, I was in the national archives photocopying the 3rd edition of Hilaire Belloc’s The Jews more than a decade ago. I’ve read the books, bought my own VHS copy of The Chekist and done all that. What I’m saying is that we in the Anglosphere have many other things to talk about other than Jewish high finance. You monomaniacs can often get in the way of other needed discussions. Okay?

  252. @Proxenos

    “The Greeks” indeed. Great plumbers inter alia. How much of your genome is associated with those great Greeks?

  253. @attilathehen

    … the insane, anti-Semitism is so nutty, I think some of it is sponsored by the government or other groups. I see this as a way not to deal with the JQ in a straightforward manner.

    I’ve thought the same thing myself. A lot of it could be bored Jewish teenagers as well. For better or worse, modern Jewish identity seems to be centered around resisting anti-Semitism and “Nazis”. So it would make sense for a lot of them to use their free time interacting with “Nazis” online as trolls or as parody accounts that drift in and out of false flag posting. It’s also the most obvious fallback position for Jewish activist organisations to take, now that the mass media choke-points have collapsed.

    It’s another reason I’d like to be able to discuss the future of the British Isles diaspora without all this Spy vs Spy, Semite vs anti-Semite drama.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @jilles dykstra
  254. @MEFOBILLS

    I don’t know what your purpose in posting is but if it is to persuade anyone to share your prejudices it would be better to avoid broad statements that many people would know are false and easily checkable. For instance “all of the colonies were corporate ventures at first…. funded with stock market capital”. Even South Australia’s Wakefieldian experiment doesn’t qualify. So…. rubbish. And some colonies preceded the creation of the stock market so…. more rubbish.

  255. @dfordoom

    Good luck in getting that nerdy autodidact to learn anything.

  256. @dfordoom

    I have long taken the view that it is in no country’s interest to reduce the degree of independence and self-government that our well run quarry currently enjoys. Neither Indonesia nor Japan nor India would be at all happy at Chinese control of Australia, Indonesian Konftontasi (and settlement as for the original Konfrontasi program in Borneo/Malaysia) could be snuffed out by Japan alone, and so on….
    It would be interesting to work out how far Australia could emulate Switzerland if it had an armed and trained citizenry plus, of course, a navy. Australia is like Switzerland to a point because its deserts can be equated to Switzerland’s untillable mountains. It is certainly not going to solve any large country’s population problem. And so on….

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  257. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    You are being as silly and trivial as Ilyana who picked on a truly obvious typo.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  258. @Rurik

    OT – For an individual like yourself who is hyper aware of negative Jewish influence on Western Civilization, it is somewhat disappointing to me for you to dismiss the Original Sin of Jewish influence. That being of course, circumcision. Before any reply, I ask that you watch the following presentation in full when time allows.

  259. Hank Yobo says:
    @Cagey Beast

    French Canada has been far more help than harm to my people, when compared to the loving folks in London, Washington, New York and Hollywood. It’s not even close.

    To paraphrase Monty Python: What has French Canada done for us?
    1. Conscription Crisis.
    2. FLQ Crisis.
    3. Domination of the Liberal Party of Canada.
    4. Bilingualism.
    5. Multiculturalism.
    6. Bill 101.
    7. Financial basket case relying on federal tax dollars to keep their heads above water through transfer payments.
    8. Environmental degradation compliments of Hydro Quebec despite the province's mania for all things Green.
    9. National gun registry.
    10. Trudeaus: pere et fils.
    11. Separation threat which destabilizes the dollar.

    I could go on. Yah, they’ve been a great boon to Confederation.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  260. @niceland

    I was, unlike my London based family members, initially inclined to favour Brexit, but after it was so incompetently handled (and the Brexiteers lack of modelling and planning exposed) I came round to stopping the process with a rerun of the referendum. Ot doesn’t mean that there couldn’t be another better planned snd timed Brexit but I think Jilles may be right and that a Brexit minded UK in the EU might find change moving in a direction it welcomes.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @niceland
  261. @niceland

    Perhaps ot is better to think “Anglophone” if one looks to the future even if that means giving huge weight to the subcontinent while also acknowledging Singapore and the commercial classes in many countries.

    BTW unlike Icelanders the English didn’t have Irish slaves 🙂

    • Replies: @niceland
  262. MEFOBILLS says:

    What I’m saying is that we in the Anglosphere have many other things to talk about other than Jewish high finance. You monomaniacs can often get in the way of other needed discussions. Okay?

    It is not monomaniacal to define the problem that addresses the Western World today.
    The West is a construct of bank credit and markets. Originally, Bolshevik communism was to put in a wall street bank, which was overturned when Stalin killed Trotsky. Said wall street bank did extract from Russia and enriched our wall street ((friends)) in the process.

    Everything else in the Anglosphere is a subsidiary of the root problem, which you are attempting to wave away as if it is the ravings of lunacy, and not hard logic.

    I think though dost protest too much. Touching a nerve?

    .

    Even South Australia’s Wakefieldian experiment doesn’t qualify

    OK, Let’s cherry pick history to make our “exception” makes the rule illogic.. FOR THE MOST PART, the colonies were corporate entities, where the intent was to make money. Feel better now?

    I’m not the ideologue here by pointing out salient facts, it is you (plural) who are dissimulating.

    Also, calls to a higher authority (I read Belloc) does not change economic facts on the ground, and does not change the narrative.

  263. anon1 says:
    @Pontius

    Actually Canada could have sat out WW2. It acquired the right to declare war by itself in 1931. Interestingly this was the first year when British-Canadians lost their absolute majority in the population. King didn’t want to declare war and waited for six days, until public opinion forced him to act.

  264. @Hank Yobo

    – Quebec was right about Conscription, as were the Irish.
    – The FLQ crisis? Shit happens. The FLQ manifesto still rocks. “Trudeau the queer”:

    – Did the Quebecers give Australia multiculturalism too?
    – Bill 101 was bad but the biggest problem was the lack of English push-back. Same thing with official bilingualism. The problem was English liberalism combined with Lester Pearson style Fabianism.
    – The Trudeaus are more popular with Anglo Liberals and Vibrants outside Quebec rather than in it. Pierre Trudeau was the product of Harvard, the LSE and the Rockefeller Foundation far more than he was a child of Quebec. Trudeau Jr. is a west coast flower child, like his mother.

    • Replies: @Hank Yobo
  265. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Cagey Beast

    It’s another reason I’d like to be able to discuss the future of the British Isles diaspora without all this Spy vs Spy, Semite vs anti-Semite drama.

    I agree, but it won’t happen here.

    Unz Review was a very cool idea, it still is a very cool idea, but it’s being trashed by nutjobs who insist on turning every single discussion into a rant about Jews or 9/11 truthism. Which means that the only subjects that can be discussed here are the Jews and 9/11.

    It’s almost as if Unz Review were a clever experiment set up to prove that freedom of speech doesn’t work and can’t work.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  266. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz

    It would be interesting to work out how far Australia could emulate Switzerland if it had an armed and trained citizenry plus, of course, a navy.

    At the moment we don’t have any actual defence forces. What we have are forces intended to operate as auxiliaries in American offensive wars. So we’d need to reorganise our defence forces into actual forces for our own defence.

    We’d have to go back to building the stuff here – the aircraft, any ships and submarines we need, missiles, etc. If you can’t build the stuff yourself you have no credibility as a sovereign nation.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  267. @dfordoom

    I agree but I also hope they figure out a way to make it work. We need to find a lasting replacement for doing politics via the mass media. The Megaphone will literally be the death of us as nations.

  268. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz

    I was, unlike my London based family members, initially inclined to favour Brexit, but after it was so incompetently handled (and the Brexiteers lack of modelling and planning exposed) I came round to stopping the process with a rerun of the referendum.

    I suspect that the end results of Brexit will be the exact opposite of the results that Brexiteers hoped for. There’s likely to be a massive increase in Third World immigration. It’s also likely to lead to Britain’s becoming even more embarrassingly the lapdog of Washington in foreign policy. Britain will be fighting America’s wars for generations to come.

    Brexiteers may have been right about treacherous eurocrats in Brussels but they overlooked the much greater treachery that is firmly entrenched in Whitehall and in the House of Commons.

    Brexit is certainly looking like a slowmotion trainwreck. Maybe things will be better when Corbyn is prime minister! 😉

    • Agree: niceland
  269. @dfordoom

    DOOM

    The English and US wealth/class divisions never took hold in Australia. It was much more egalitarian and middle class from the ground up.

    But I think as Asian billionaires become the ruling elite, this will change.

    Canada is in North America and not Asia. So in geopolitical terms, they are unlikely to become part of Asia by default.

  270. peterAUS says:
    @dfordoom

    ….nutjobs who insist on turning every single discussion into a rant about Jews or 9/11 truthism. Which means that the only subjects that can be discussed here are the Jews and 9/11.

    Don’t say.

    It’s almost as if Unz Review were a clever experiment set up to prove that freedom of speech doesn’t work and can’t work.

    Hehehe……now..now….”almost”, you say?

    You know….maybe you are just a touch too smart for your own good.

    Fear not. This comment of yours will sink, immediately, into limbo here.
    But, if I were you, I’d save it for future reference. Wouldn’t hurt.

    Keep at this, mate.

  271. peterAUS says:
    @dfordoom

    After that moment of clarity in the previous comment, well, this one needs some input.

    National defense is a complicated matter. Heavy thinking, research, available data, tons of knowledge. Bottom line, giving fast opinions about the matter, even in a pub, isn’t quite smart.

    If…..if….you are interested in the topic (95 % of people keen on talking about military aren’t), well, start with geopolitics, mixed with history.
    Then, alliances.
    Then, possible threats.
    Then economy. Then people, culture etc.

    And, when you really have all the above, contemplate what could be done to make it better. Even more importantly, what not to do to make it worse.
    History is full of examples when a political hasty decision ruined armed forces. Or…it takes a couple of years for politicians to ruin armed forces; 20 years to un-ruin them, if ever.
    That’s serious business and, well, requires serious approach.

    I have some real life experience and expertise about the matter. Or so I say.
    But, I’d never even try to contemplate serious thinking about Australian defense policy. Hehe…makes sense?
    And….haha…what makes even more sense is that a lot of people just know they can do it so well. From members to public to any layer of government. Makes you think, a?

    Anyway, as for the Australian armed forces….all in all, they are good, IMHO.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  272. Hank Yobo says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Not to beat a dead horse but the LPC went from seven seats to forty in the 2015 federal election in Quebec under Trudeau. He’s their boy, as was Pearson, “Old Fuddle-Duddle,” Mulroney, Cretin (not a spelling mistake), and Martin. Without Quebec’s support, the LPC would be toast and the rest of the country has been paying the price. Je me souviens.

  273. @dfordoom

    by nutjobs who insist on turning every single discussion into a rant about Jews or 9/11 truthism.

    Yes, but those nutjobs can feel validated and encouraged by the site’s very own creator who has written similar things.
    It’s not like they just took over some site dedicated to free speech…many of the articles published here cater to this kind of clientele.
    So I don’t think the trajectory Unz review has taken is necessarily an argument against open discussion per se.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @dfordoom
  274. dfordoom says: • Website
    @peterAUS

    History is full of examples when a political hasty decision ruined armed forces.

    Well, perhaps fortunately, I haven’t yet been appointed dictator-for-life so I’m not in charge of Australian defence policy.

    I do think it’s a subject that needs to be debated. At the very least we need to know if we’re preparing to fight wars in Australia, in our region, or in the Middle East. And are we intending to fight in our own defence, or are we intending to participate in American wars of aggression? If the taxpayers are being asked to pay for the military they might think they should get a say in that.

    Perhaps our armed forces actually make us less safe. Thanks to our participation in America’s wars there are lots of countries that didn’t know we existed but now they (quite rightly) hate us.

    I’m sure it’s all terribly complicated. Do you think our politicians are qualified to understand it?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @peterAUS
  275. Seraphim says:
    @Anon

    Hey, Echo of History, you are still around?

  276. niceland says:
    @MEFOBILLS

    My apologies for directing earlier post to you, it’s clear you are talking balanced view and your input is interesting.

    Regarding Brexit and possibly the idea discussed here I totally agree with you that “high finance” absolutely needs to be discussed. City of London a prime example. I leave it to others to judge the Jewish angle. In my view it clearly present, but like others in this discussion have pointed out it tends to overshadow the discussion.

    • Replies: @MEFOBILLS
  277. @dfordoom

    Menzies knew that the Vietnam war would result in the inevitable refugee crisis and ultimately the entire demographic change that resulted from Vietnamese immigration to Australia.

    Whether or not Australian forces had participated in the Vietnam War the immigration of Vietnamese to Australia was an inevitable end result.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  278. peterAUS says:
    @dfordoom

    Do you think our politicians are qualified to understand it?

    Well….things aren’t exactly only in hands of “our politicians”.
    There is a matter of USA, then a matter of UK (that “Royal” in Navy and Air Force), then a (little) matter of (little) brother across the Tasman Sea, etc.
    There are partnerships, coalitions and such.

    To the question itself, most aren’t. When we are onto it, do you really think an average Australian is?

    My point is very simple: national defense is a serious matter demanding highest levels of related expertise.

    As I said, I have some low level related experience. If somebody asked me to participate in, say,a think tank to produce a policy paper I’d decline.

    Now……hehe…I am sure that plenty of people reading this think they can do it, with ease. Good on them. Tell you what. In all my time on this site I’ve “felt”…say……..5 guys, tops (including authors) who could sit in that think tank.

    Make of that what you will.

    You are correct in one thing: in any serious conflict Australian Defence Force will work with US armed forces. Simple as that. Depending on several variables the ratio will vary.

    As for engagement in ME, well, that’s the part of the setup. That’s what Americans want. They are the big guy here. That’s the price to get their help if/when we need it.

    To details:

    …we need to know if we’re preparing to fight wars in Australia, in our region, or in the Middle East.

    All of them.

    And are we intending to fight in our own defence, or are we intending to participate in American wars of aggression?

    Both. The price to have the big boy helping is helping him when he wants. Hehe..any street gang, let alone organized crime outfit operates by the same rules.

    Thanks to our participation in America’s wars there are lots of countries that didn’t know we existed but now they (quite rightly) hate us.

    Correct.
    Is it worth is the question. I think it is. Plenty of those will hate us regardless. So, helps if they fear us too.

    I suggest, as an exercise, play scenarios. What-if? All the way.
    You could be surprised.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  279. @German_reader

    Possibly you are really German.
    No people has been and still is so intensively brainwashed about the jews as eternal innocent victims as the German people.

    This brainwashing, in my opinion, prevents any analysis of the present political world situation.
    The German Gutmenschen restrict themselves to wishful thinking about a better world.
    Except for sustaining the open society, that is destroying the German people and culture, nothing concrete comes from them.

    Awkward questions, such as how they expect German society to be in 2040, when already 40% of the inhabitants of Germany will have a migration background, most of them also Muslim, simply are left unanswered.
    AIPAC, AEI, Deep State, Soros, Koch brothers, Murdoch, neocons, taboo subjects.

    Quite interesting, though, from a psychological point of view, is the cognitive dissonance in Germany about Israel and the Palestinians.
    On the one hand Germans must love the holocaust survivors, on the other they see the concentration camp Gaza, where the guards have no problem with bombing the prisoners.

  280. Whitewolf says:

    If a White person cringes at being called a White supremacist then he or she is effectively a White submissivist. Whites living in White countries especially should be White supremacists. They should seek power and unashamedly so. The term “White supremacist” is meant to convince Whites that seeking power and dominion even in their own countries is somehow evil. It’s a patently obvious guilt trip that way too many Whites who should know better fall for.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Corvinus
  281. dfordoom says: • Website
    @German_reader

    Yes, but those nutjobs can feel validated and encouraged by the site’s very own creator who has written similar things.
    It’s not like they just took over some site dedicated to free speech…many of the articles published here cater to this kind of clientele.

    That’s true, and it’s very unfortunate. Unz Review is heading in some very worrying directions.

    So I don’t think the trajectory Unz review has taken is necessarily an argument against open discussion per se.

    Perhaps not, but any site that caters in any way to what could loosely be described as the dissident right is always going to attract some very unsavoury nutjobs. And any site that caters to the HBD crowd is guaranteed to attract nutters.

    If you’re going to have unmoderated comments sections you’re going to be overrun by the crazed fanatic types.

    I personally don’t believe freedom of speech is workable so while I’m saddened to see Unz Review going down the toilet I’m not surprised.

  282. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jeff Stryker

    Menzies knew that the Vietnam war would result in the inevitable refugee crisis and ultimately the entire demographic change that resulted from Vietnamese immigration to Australia.

    I think that’s a very dubious statement. Menzies and Holt certainly did not expect the U.S. to lose the Vietnam War so why would they have expected a refugee crisis?

    Whether or not Australian forces had participated in the Vietnam War the immigration of Vietnamese to Australia was an inevitable end result.

    In the 70s there would have been much greater and more successful opposition to Vietnamese immigration had Australia not been involved in the Vietnam War. The fact that we were involved in that sorry war strengthened the arguments that we had a responsibility to help clean up the mess that we had helped to create.

    Of course there’s no question that traitors like Fraser would still have pushed their multicultural agenda, but had we kept out of the war it would have run into more effective opposition.

  283. I read this comment three times, yet I’ve no idea what you’re trying to say.

    ‘Freedom of speech is unworkable’,

    unworkable for what or whom, and why ?

    loosely be described as the dissident right is always going to attract some very unsavoury nutjobs.

    What here is ‘right’, ‘dissident’ with what, ‘unsavoury nutjobs’, the last two words: those you do not like.
    Here an example with some explanation might help.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  284. @dfordoom

    ” the French did not have a strong enough navy to threaten British colonial possessions.”
    You still fail to understand, or are unable to envisage, that Australia and New Zealand were not at all sure that Britain would do anything to defend them against France or Germany.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  285. @peterAUS

    You are an idiot, You totally disregard UN.

  286. @jilles dykstra

    I read this comment three times, yet I’ve no idea what you’re trying to say.

    ‘Freedom of speech is unworkable’

    unworkable for what or whom, and why ?

    It’s unworkable if the goal is to have productive conversations, rather than an endless open mic night for people to post walls of text from their dream diary.

  287. Rurik says:
    @Whitewolf

    The term “White supremacist” is meant to convince Whites that seeking power and dominion even in their own countries is somehow evil.

    You’re wrong Whitewolf.

    That’s not why they’re being smeared as ‘white supremacists. They’re not, as you ruefully point out, trying to be ascendant or dominant over anyone. If they were, (and I’m not condemning such a thing out of hand), then I’d say fine, they’re white supremacists.

    But what the ((narrative)) has turned into today, is a humiliating farce where any white people anywhere- who’re being treated as second class citizens in their own countries, and marginalized and demonized and replaced wholesale, are supposed to celebrate! this process, and welcome their replacements, and hang their head in shame for all their ‘privilege’ and for all the crimes they’ve committed against POC (people of color), and homos and Jews and women.

    And if they don’t, or if they dare to question the wisdom or fairness that slates them and their children to the trash heap of history..

    .. then they are smeared as “white supremacists” by the ((media)) and assorted emboldened leftist politicians. For refusing to grovel to POC and beg forgiveness, you see?

    But with any luck, this state of affairs will result in white people deciding that being ascendant is preferable to being humiliated and replaced. And if the non-whites of the world, have created a situation where whites either go gently into that goodnight, or muster their dormant ‘white supremacist’, then I suppose it’s well past time for them to do so.

    As for all the whining, cringing crybabies who don’t like to hear the truth about Jewish supremacist machinations behind the death of Western civilization and its people, then why not just try to refute it? Eh?

    Why the sniveling oblique pejoratives, and cretinous hand wringing.

    Why not fight fire with fire?!

    This is exactly the kind of place to do exactly that!

    And kudos to Mr. Unz for having provided it.

    But instead, there they are. Like Gollum in the shadows

    ‘He shouldn’t be saying that!’

    Sure, the war on Iraq was maybe a mistake, but why try to blame ‘the Jews’ for everything?

    Sure, the EU demands all European nations commit ethno-suicide, but why try to blame ‘the Jews’ for everything?

    Sure, fomenting the war on Syria didn’t work out so well, by why try to blame ‘the Jews’ for everything?!

    Yes, Trump is having some trouble with Bolton and the neocons, but why try to blame ‘the Jews’ for everything?

    And on and on…

    Are ‘the Jews’ causing all the world’s problems? Of course not, that’s stupid. But they are causing some problems, and I just find it craven and cowardly to ignore it when it obviously is ‘the Jews’ who (with the eager assistance of legions of goyim collaborators) are the motivating force for many problems, that’s all.

    Some problems, like the war on Yemen, are not directly a consequence of ‘the Jews’.

    But if you’re talking about 9/11, or the Eternal Wars in the Middle East, or massive and transformational non-white immigration into the West, and you want to pretend that ‘the Jews’ have little or nothing to do with it, then you’re either a dupe, a liar, or a fool.

    Unz is hardball. If you want to make your case, then make it. Please. But don’t go around sniveling in the crevices.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  288. It’s unworkable if the goal is to have productive conversations,

    Stating the same twice, but in other words, I cannot see as productive.
    But I now stop this unworkable, unproductive, conversation; even wonder if the word conversation can be used here.
    You seem to be unable to formulate your thoughts, or you do not want to formulate them.

  289. @Rurik

    A list of problems caused by jews, next to a list of problems not caused by jews, could be helpful.
    There of course never will be consensus about these lists, but discussion could become less confused, and, who knows, maybe the listst are less different than many may expect.

  290. @MEFOBILLS

    ” With regards to Egypt, they used a form of demur-age. They kept records of how much grain was in the silos on clay shards. The shards were the money and the figures on said shards would decrement as mice ate the grain ”
    I specify the book where it is shown that a loaf bread was the currency, also used in bank, temple, accounts, and without any argument, you assert something else.
    Then you state that banking began in Italy, yet you name sherds of clay worth money, in your case backed by grain, thousands of years earlier.
    Difficult subject, money.

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  291. @Cagey Beast

    ” modern Jewish identity seems to be centered around resisting anti-Semitism and “Nazis” “

    The word ‘resisting’ puzzles me here.
    Either criticism of jewry is nonsense, such as there is no Gaza concentration camp, people living there can travel over the world freely, can sell their gas, go fishing, have an airport, or the the facts are real, cannot be denied.
    Resisting facts, weird waste of time.

    Resisting “Nazis”, no idea what this could be.
    What nowadays is a Nazi, what does he or she do what can be resisted ?
    What then is this resistence ?
    In WWII telephone lines were cut, bombs were placed under railways, pictures were made of radar antennae of planes, and of radar bowls.
    But again, resisting a Nazi, please give an example

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  292. @jilles dykstra

    You’re playing stupid so well that you have me thoroughly convinced.

  293. MEFOBILLS says:
    @niceland

    My apologies for directing earlier post to you, it’s clear you are talking balanced view and your input is interesting.

    _______________________________

    Thanks for the compliment Niceland.

    Notice my detractors accuse me of antisemitism when I point out salient facts, and simultaneously cannot address the facts on the ground.

    So, another thing facing us is that narrative controls humans, and when a differing narrative is postulated, human’s make excuses.

    Making excuses rather than objectively dealing with reality is the province of weak minds.

    Even though Unz is fearless in pursuit of the truth, there are people that visit this site who attempt to squelch discussion, because it makes them uncomfortable, or they themselves cannot address the contradictions in narrative they hold so dear.

    I have posted historical facts that are in contradiction to the “wonderful” anglosphere, and even have pointed to the root problem. Mostly there are crickets and denial.

    If you have bad narrative, or bad software that is driving your conscious, then sack up and root it out. Be a man. (Not you Niceland, obviously you also are balanced.)

    The NPC meme is that many people do not have an internal monologue. I suggest that many of these people have squashed their internal monologue, because to have one is to resolve inner contradictions, and it is mentally easier to lie to yourself.

  294. MEFOBILLS says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Then you state that banking began in Italy, yet you name sherds of clay worth money, in your case backed by grain, thousands of years earlier.
    Difficult T, money.

    There are talleys, tokens, and money. There is also credit. And yes, you are correct with your statement about difficulty. The author you mention about bread loaves is incorrect, a German historian figured out the demurrage system of Egypt, and this is the latest understanding and resonates with me as correct.

    It is a difficult subject, because each of these units have different properties. There is even something called tool money, which were little figurines shaped as tools, and we think they were meant to buy the real item, or be a token worth the value of the tool. Tool money predates Egyptian shards. There are also rounded ivory balls intended as a token to buy something found in 10000 year old bodies. These balls probably indicated a debt relation known to the tribe, and hence were not money but talleys.

    I will probably have to write a book describing the different units and how they circulate. People assume that I’m some sort of rando idiot and don’t know what I’m talking about.

    Suffice to say, that Egypt did have a money economy, but not banking. They didn’t have a priest caste that created loans and controlled the “currency,” or at least to anybody’s knowledge.

    The first real “money” economy (not talleys) probably came into being in Mesopotamia, where the priest class sold their goods long distance. The did this by cutting a weight of gold off of a rod, and said weight was measured on a balance beam against grains of barley (hence grains of gold weight today). Hudson has written a compendium on this history. Barley weights and calendar fractions (1/12 or 1/30’th i.e. yearly division or lunar division) controlled the weight divisions. Both the gold weight and barley weight resolved on a ledger.

    Perhaps the bread idea came from bread that was slightly wet, and the barley supported fermentation, and people could get slightly drunk.

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  295. niceland says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    BTW unlike Icelanders the English didn’t have Irish slaves 🙂

    I tell you, this was a big mistake. The Irish slaves jumped off the boats and straight into the Viking’s (Scandinavian) gene-pool. I think it was great improvement, but I might be biased. Possibly my red hair talking, or the freckles on my arms. 😉

  296. @J1234

    1954 Maserati A6 GCS Berlinetta

    Does it come in red and sans roof?

    That must’ve been awesome visiting with Penske.

    I caddied for him, so four hours walking together around the course plus an invite to his soirée after the tournament. As a young gear head it was a dream come true. Years later, he almost capsized me on the Detroit River in his 120’+ Detriot Eagle. But that’s what happens when you put a racing driver in a yacht with 20,000 horsepower I guess so I forgive him that.

  297. @MEFOBILLS

    I’m unable to judge which historian was correct about Egyptian money.
    Do not know is there is an accepted definition of banking, and I never pondered about such a definition.
    Begin even to wonder what w’re discussing.
    The point for me is that early in history there was money, and that payments could be made with pieces of paper, or anything that could be written on.
    As I stated, we Dutch did a lot of trading, already in Roman times the word ‘Frysian’ meant ‘independent trader’.
    How was paid say at the time Bonifacius was murdered, I do not know.
    What I do know is that ships from the Dutch republic hardly ever transported money, gold and silver money.
    There was a banking system over large parts of Europe, largely based on trust.
    Banks, called houses at the time, periodically compared their books, cleared debts.
    But possibly you know all these things already.

  298. niceland says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    During our brief accession process into the EU the question of sovereignty was debated. The final argument from the pro EU side was; in the end we can just leave and be fully sovereign – ergo we won’t loose it.

    Thinking about this I came to the conclusion this wasn’t really solid argument. Mainly because leaving the EU seemed to me to be extremely difficult and long winded process, and for small countries having adopted the Euro so difficult it would never be a real option, absent extraordinary circumstances. Something the Greeks found out the hard way. I was therefore never optimistic about Brexit, even if the UK is outside of the eurozone.

    Obvious problem regarding Brexit is lack of support from large portion of the economy and the people managing it are against it. Most of all the huge financial-business sector. While I could write a lot about my overall feelings towards British high finance and it’s probable stronghold on UK politics and endless corruption and so forth – there is no denying it’s there and it’s big part of the UK economy. Without it the UK is in serious trouble.

    As for the idea Mr. Derbishire is contemplating. I think the only, and obvious country for the UK to “join” is the USA since they are already marching in lockstep on most foreign issues. The press in both countries is similar. Similar political whirlwinds sweep both countries, Margaret Thatcher-Ronald Regan era!? Tony Blair-Bill Clinton!? Corbin-Sanders!?

    I really makes one wonder if the same elites are running them both. For the other Anglos – my unfortunate (for my UK friends) result is: avoid, stay away, far away!

  299. dfordoom says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra

    You still fail to understand, or are unable to envisage, that Australia and New Zealand were not at all sure that Britain would do anything to defend them against France or Germany.

    I partly agree with you, expect that in 1914 it was Germany that was perceived as the threat, definitely not France.

  300. Joe Mack says:

    Sub Saharan Africa, the least desirable habitat space in the world, since Antartica is not really habitable.

    Find a place without Africans or indigenous people from the Americas and stay there.

  301. Tony M says:

    Niceland: The financial-sector sometimes called too ‘invisible’ earnings are not such a significant part of the UK economy, as is thought, though it is often talked-up as part of the whitewash of its failure, its excesses and its always specious intangible nature. It has not been especially profitable for the people or countries of the UK. It has serially under-performed even the the more realistic and honest of optimistic expectations. Stupendous losses, stumbles, crashes and heists far overwhelm the infrequent few and those narrowly distributed benefits. It is a net loss, parasitically sucking the rest of the British Isles dry, laundering the proceeds through the City and spiriting it abroad. It has been a colossal, now busted racket.

    It was all a pipe-dream mis-sold as the way out of the failure of a managerial and executive elite to adapt from short-termism and their unerring propensity given their head to run their businesses into the ground. A failure to adapt and to build on the easy profits of captive protected near monopoly conditions domestically, conditions now again necessary to rebuild what was wantonly destroyed. Once the post-ww2 imperative to export-or-die died their predeliction was to cash-in early whilst the going was good by putting excessive shareholder dividends before investment; their cunning plan was to have no plan. They thought they had the ear of government and holding fast to class antagonisms that could only ever aggravate labour relations, never broach lasting solutions, they collided with political-power building trade-unions representing members at large who merely wanted the far less radical adequate and commensurate with their skills and effort living-wages and workplace conditions less injurious to their physical and mental health,

    The then smaller financial sector’s national disloyalty was ever present and their preference had long been to invest in more immediately and more lucrative overseas schemes, than in the under-performing domestic economy and they had effectively got their way fully by the mid-70s, had ensnared the politicians of both factions of the Labour-Tory duopoly. This then absent as directed elsewhere with a vengeance investment should have tolled the death-knell for much of industry but it has been surprisingly resilient. Some have crunched the figures and concluded that the very large number of medium-sized manufacturing enterprises that folded during the Blair years from 1997 onwards, was far more catastrophic than the fewer but headline-grabbing vast entities, such as the steel, shipbuilding, car and truck manufacturers etc. that disappeared when Thatcher & Co. reigned supreme.

    A special case is Scotland, where de-industrialisation was vindictively and rapaciously pursued, not just for reasons of baleful economic dogmatism and greed, but for political purposes, to hobble Scotland as a viable state and potential competitor and to frustrate the growing demand there for ending union with England and departing on our separate ways, an idea whose time has come and a movement which just keeps growing, and which the British deep-state have and will go to extraordinary lengths – all to no or counter-productive avail – to quash. We now have the absurdity of the present English-chosen Tory government luring established businesses in Scotland, south to England using taxpayer money incentives, sourced at least partly from Scotland. There is no end to their treachery and malice, but independence.

  302. Corvinus says:
    @Whitewolf

    “If a White person cringes at being called a White supremacist then he or she is effectively a White submissivist. Whites living in White countries especially should be White supremacists.”

    Basically, white people do not have agency in your world. They must abide by your command. You do realize that your line of thinking is in direct opposition to liberty, right?

    “Whites living in White countries especially should be White supremacists. They should seek power and unashamedly so”

    How about this–film yourself and put it on this website demonstrating your White supremacy. I mean, if you are truly supportive of the cause, there need not be any hiding on your part. Be loud and proud. Show everyone your true white empowerment. Otherwise, the truth of the matter is that you are simply an armchair warrior.

    What say you?

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