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What Do Jennifer Rubin and Brett Stephens Have Against “Nativism”?–Oh, Wait…
Jennifer Rubin and Bret Stephens
Jennifer Rubin and Bret Stephens

I’d not an anti-Semite; I never have been; and I don’t have much time for anti-Semites. I’ve written a couple of million words of opinion commentary this past thirty years, all of it archived on my website, and I defy you to find any evidence of anti-Semitism in it anywhere.

However, I’ve turned against the word “philosemite,” for reasons I’ve explained elsewhere. Basically, it’s patronizing. If pressed on the issue, I call myself an anti-anti-Semite. I cherish my Jewish friends, and I have publicly—and again, I think, more than once—expressed gratitude in print for the positive contribution Jews have made to our civilization, way out of proportion to their numbers.

That said, I know the following thing, which anyone who has observed the American political scene surely also knows: A subset of American Jews—a subset, a minority—suffer from a kind of psychological deformation that keeps them trapped in a particular, strangely atavistic type of paranoia, of victim mentality.

In this mentality, it’s always 1881 and we’re still in Russia. The Jews are cowering behind their doors in fear as the Cossacks rampage through the town, or Christian peasants with pitchforks and flaming brands march on the Jewish quarter.

One side effect of this mentality: an unblinking vigilance, a hyper-sensitivity, towards the slightest tendency of the Gentile majority to drift Cossack-wards. This easily and often slops over into—and I am speaking of a subset of a subset of American Jews—into a generalized dislike, a prejudice, against white Christians.

Another side effect: the feeling that, for an oppressed minority—we’re still in 1881, remember: it’s always 1881—for an oppressed minority there is safety in courting and joining with other outsider groups for solidarity against the dangerous, dominant Goyim. The great dream of this mentality, in fact, is to get enough of a coalition of outsiders together to outnumber the Goyim, the white Christians. That’s why so many Jews are so passionately committed to mass Third World immigration.

It’s not hard to find evidence of this. Example: one of the “Intelligence Squared” debate series that took place September 13th. The motion to be debated was “Blame the Elites for the Trump Phenomenon.” It lasts an hour and 44 minutes.[Transcript PDF]

All four debaters were Bigfoot American journalists. Both sides of the debate were anti-Trump; the debate was over whose fault it was that Trump had gotten the GOP nomination. For the motion, arguing that it was the fault of the elites, were Ben Domenech [Email him] and Timothy Carney, [Email him] both Gentiles. Against the motion, arguing that it was not the fault of the elites, were Jennifer Rubin [email her] and Bret Stephens [Email him] both Jewish.

That tells you something by itself. That atavistic style of Jewish paranoia that I spoke about, when it hears the word “elites,” at once flies to the thought: They’re talking about US! … and the hoofbeats of the Cossacks are heard drumming in the distance.

At some mental level Rubin and Stephens read the title of the debate as: “Blame the Jews for the Trump Phenomenon.” That’s why they’re arguing against the motion. No, no, it’s not our fault—it’s those damn peasants!

brandishThis put them on edge. You can see it in the debate. Stephens actually plays the Holocaust Card at 1h22m, brandishing the print-out of an anti-Semitic tweet he got. Earlier, at 56m, the whole debate had almost veered into a straightforward Christians versus Jews joust. Dealing with Mrs. Clinton’s use of the word “irredeemable,” Jay Carney and Jennifer Rubin clashed lances thus:

Clip: (Carney) I disagree with Bret Stephens and with Hillary Clinton that a quarter of the population is unredeemable. And my bias, on the table, is, I’m a Christian and I think everyone is redeemable …

(Rubin) We Jews just believe in good and evil. We don’t think everyone isredeemable.

It’s been a while since I saw the atavistic paranoia of Jews, that subset of them, so starkly presented. The last time was, in fact, when I saw that Sacha Baron Cohen movie Borat, where it’s likewise hard to miss.

If I’m right about Rubin and Stephens, the result of the debate did nothing to soothe their paranoia. Part of the format for these Intelligence Squared debates is that the studio audience is polled at the beginning—how many for, how many against, how many undecided. The debate takes place, then at the end the audience is polled again, to see how many of the undecideds were persuaded which way.

Result: The audience percentage favoring the motion, that our elites were to blame for the rise of Trump, shot up 26 percent, from 32 to 58. The percentage blaming the peasants went up only six percent, 27 to 33.

Uh-oh, here come the Cossacks.

I’ll just add here that if you take exception to all that coming from me, a Gentile, perhaps you’ll take from Caroline Glick, a Jew. (I know I’m not allowed to say “Jewess” because I checked once with a Jewish lady editor I was working for. Quote from her: “We can say it, but you can’t.”)

Ms. Glick covers that same debate from the point of view of an ethnocentric Jew, and her coverage comes out sounding a lot like mine. She points up the rather high level of open anti-Semitism on the political Left. Then—

The problem on the Republican side of the aisle … is not that the party has turned against the Jews. The problem is that a large contingent of prominent Jewish Republicans has decided to commit political suicide …

Rather than … accept the will of their fellow Republicans, this year the most prominent members of the Jewish Republican elite have opted to attack Trump and his voters.

That is, they have decided to commit political suicide. Twilight of American Jewry, Jerusalem Post, September 15, 2016

That’s you she’s talking about, Jennifer Rubin and Bret Stephens.

As I said, both sides in that Intelligence Squared debate were anti-Trump. Whether all four were actually NeverTrumpers was not clear. You can be anti-Trump without being NeverTrump, on the lesser of two evils principle.

But at least one of the Jewish side was a NeverTrumper, though. How do we know this? These are opinion journalists, recall. He wrote about it.

Yes, it’s opinion journalist Bret Stephens again.

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September 12th, the day before the debate, Stephens posted a Q&A column in the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, where he is a Deputy Editor and opinion columnist. Both the Qs and the As were apparently written by Stephens himself, a common format in opinion journalism. I’ve done columns in that format myself.

The title of Stephens’ column: Nevertrump For Dummies.

Subtitle: “The nominee has more in common with Kanye West than with Steve Wynn.”

That subtitle threw me. Kanye West I know about at a very vague level. He’s one of those famous-for-being-famous people, right? I couldn’t tell you a single darn thing he’s done, but I see his name on the scandal sheets when I’m in the supermarket checkout line.

Who’s Steve Wynn, though? I had to look him up. He’s a billionaire property developer, very much like Trump. He’s built luxury hotels and casinos.

So what’s he doing in that subtitle? Well, he seems a bit more Upper West Side than Trump. He’s a connoisseur of fine art, for example. I don’t see much otherwise to place him at one end of an acceptability spectrum that has Donald Trump and Kanye West at the other end.

Or do I? Checking a bit further, I see that Steve Wynn, like Bret Stephens, is an American-born Ashkenazi Jew, original name Weinberg. So on that acceptability spectrum, we have two Jews at one end and two Gentiles at the other—just like in the following day’s debate!

Kanye West is a Gentile; I checked. In fact, a couple of years ago he got himself in a spot of bother by telling a New York radio station that “Black people don’t have the same level of connections as Jewish people.”.[Kanye West wants to take back ‘ignorant compliment’ about Jews , Jerusalem Post, December 22, 2013]I wouldn’t be terrifically surprised to learn that it was exactly that remark that lodged itself in Bret Stephens’ mind, causing him to pair off West with Trump at the dark end of the spectrum.

OK, getting past the subtitle, what’s in the column? Well, you can read it for yourself. No, you don’t need a Wall Street Journal subscription—who can afford those things? What you do is, put the title, “NeverTrump for Dummies,” into the search box at Google News. I’ll just pull out one single quote.

First thing I did was Ctrl-F on the word “nativist.” Yep, there it is. I knew it would be: “Mr. Trump’s nativist brand of politics is much further removed from conservatism than Mrs. Clinton’s mainstream liberalism,” end quote.

There you see the paranoia, the immigration fanaticism. For a politician to be “nativist”—to favor the natives, the people born in his country, over foreigners—is worse, much worse, than Clintonian liberalism, says Bret Stephens.

For him, to be “nativist” is worse than anything, because if a “nativist” gets power, our Coalition of Others will never have numbers to swamp the Goyim. They’ll be dominant for ever, and sooner or later they’ll turn on the Jews! [Hoofbeat sounds].

I know, it sounds nutty. Possibly I am being paranoid. But watching that debate, and then reading Bret Stephens’ print piece, it does seem to me that Bret Stephens’ paranoia, that atavistic fear, is in plain sight, just under the surface.

What, after all, is wrong with nativism? Why is this a pejorative—even on the political Left, never mind from the pen of a self-described conservative.

For a government to favor its own people over foreigners: There’s something wrong with that? What? What, exactly?

Because it’s “hateful”? What nonsense! I favor my own kids over your kids, by a mile and a half; but I don’t hate your kids, so long as they don’t come into my house uninvited. Good luck to them.

Good luck to foreigners: Jolly good luck to them all, the long and the short and the tall.

Now, will our government please attend to the fortunes and concerns of our people, our citizens, and let foreigners shift for themselves?

What, that’s “nativist”? OK—then three cheers for nativism!

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjectsfor all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He’s had two books published by VDARE.com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and From the Dissident Right II: Essays 2013. His writings are archived atJohnDerbyshire.com.

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  1. For the motion, arguing that it was the fault of the elites, were Ben Domenech [Email him] and Email him] both Jennifer Rubin [email her]and Email him] both Jewish paranoia that I spoke about,

    Derb, I think you left out a couple of names here, and chunks of the sentence are missing.

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  2. Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb’s terrified of being labeled an ‘anti-Semite’. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he’s a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what’s urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

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    • Agree: AndrewR, Joe Walker
    • Replies: @geokat62

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.
     
    I second that motion.
    , @Sam Shama
    No, I think Derb has it right; it is in fact a small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome. Looked at the Jewish assimilation rates lately?

    Gilad Atzmon is mad. Being Jewish he permits himself a distorted privilege of parsing an innumerable variety of different types of Jewish paranoia which run the gamut of political, ethno-cultural and historical reasons. It's bloody ridiculous. As for Giraldi, I think he's got a point; AIPAC is a not a force for great good, not for Israel and assuredly not for this country. It has a membership of 100,000. However at time he takes his position to a place where it fails to distinguish cause from effect [who drives U.S. aid to Israel? Think]

    There are many organisations and advocacy groups which boast much larger memberships. Yet we are housed in a majoritarian rule based society, where advocacy remains an important cornerstone. For example, you might be a gun ownership advocate [I am] and therefore an NRA member. Many aren't, and these persons are free to express their voices, indeed free to attempt a change, but only through the same majoritarian system.

    I think your position is flawed where you see the Jewish hand at work, your default factor, behind all perceived wrongdoing. Well fine, you are free to think so, but it does not make you right.
    , @AndrewR
    Yeah, I lost much my my respect for Derb when he referred to Sysan Sonntag as a "white ethnomasochist."

    Pure cowardice.
    , @gbloco
    I think that what we see in this debate from the Jewish panelists is not ATAVISM but EMANCIPATION. They apparently feel emboldened enough to lecture Christians in the most Christian country on the planet on why their religion is wrong.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb’s terrified of being labeled an ‘anti-Semite’."

    Then he ought to realize, that just for writing this article, he already will be. Noticing things - letting on that you've noticed them - is what gets you in trouble.
    , @David Bauer
    Also Israel Shamir, and the incomparable essays of Paul Eisen (both Jewish, although Shamir converted to Christianity.
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    John Derbyshire, for all his fine rhetorical qualities, has a seething suspicion of a politically activized working class - writing essays against immigration is kosher, but heavens forbid you actually take it to the streets (what an "unsavory bunch"!). And dey culcha of upper class English pedophilia has to be defended at all costs, especially when it helps keep the Bear at bay and the Cossacks away.

    So this is all quite natural, really. The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew.
    , @Snippet
    I have no doubt Derb is perfectly capable of "writing boldly and honestly of Jews as wrongdoers." should he chose to do so.
    In fact, he would, should he chose to do so, most likely do it better than anyone else.
    , @iffen
    Derb’s terrified of being labeled an ‘anti-Semite’.

    Well, he is not afraid of being labeled a racist.

    Maybe that means he's a racist, but he is not an anti-Semite.
    , @Oscar Peterson
    I guess the first thing is that anyone posting in a string vice sticking your name at the top of an article needs to be guarded in making charges of cowardice. That said, I've never been a big Derb fan. To me, his focus rarely seems to be on what's most important. And it's true that like many "race realists" he is pretty UNrealistic about Jews. Moreover, the "I've never had much use for anti-semites" equivocations are rather irritating. It's funny that he's made rather unqualified criticisms of blacks--and paid a huge professional price, but is instinctively cautious when it comes to Jews. Just goes to show where the power is.

    In fact, this approach reminds me of the horrible situation at American Renaissance. There, people say whatever they want pretty much about blacks short of outright expletives. But criticism of Jews is badly received (as in comments deleted.) And any pieces that focus on Jews are explicitly positive--quite the opposite of most of what they post. Moreover, a very heavy and tolerated Hasbara presence trying to subvert the readership much of which is good but, I have to say, rather simple.
    , @Colleen Pater
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    mark Im not so sure hes too nice i think he is like myself torn between a genuine like of many jews and what he notices from knowing jews. Im a native new yorker from a artsy intellectual upper middle class home I grew up around a lot of jews though we were catholic. Being intelligent and from that background and it being new york city i also became friendly with a lot of jew probably most of my friends. But my politics went from far left to kind of reactionary at an early age partly because nyc makes one a race realist partly im an alpha male with no patience for feminism or other faggotry so despite having all liberal friends i was always the token conservative [there wasnt the animosity there is today]one couldnt help but notice certain patterns among the really far lefties in nyc, once on my 21st birthday i was in an argument with someone much older who used the NYtimes as an appeal to authority without thinking a derisive ' the jew york times ' came out of my mouth it was 79 i may have actually coined it the room got silent for a second i was drunk and coked up and a really hot 21 years old everyone although 80% jewish quickly decided to give me a pass [luck for them lol]
    My point is even a 21 year old born and raised around jews who loved jews knew what the score was knew they were almost some variation of liberal more often than not some type of far left activist of the way we were variety. and yeah like derb i decided early on to cut them some slack although i knew it was activism against my own people i figured they thought putting together a coalition of minorities aginst the majority would give them a margin of safety. i figured i could afford it i probably assumed they would cut it out eventually.
    so even now a full on alt right neoreactionary anti cuckservative i am still loath to fuylly condemn them still hopefull they will wake up and see what they are doing. I tell the alt right better to flip them than have to fight them as well.But sadly i realize yeah sure the true beleivers might be a subset but they are their best and brightest and the others take their cues from them perhaps not understanding the game as well. i dont know what to say except wake the fuck up jews your multiculturalist marxism is not only hoisting you by your own petard the saxon is beginning to wake he knows hes been fucked and hes going to do something about it, theres no way to handle it but ethnically because leftists have framed it, jews have a tiny window to repent and declare themselves white, declare that whites too have a right to homelands where their governments govern in their interests where their culture and peoples are respected and nurtured that western countries are not the welfare office of the world that multiculturalism is an unmitigated disaster that must be reversed not stopped not slowed reversed, you can legitimately claim to be part of western civilization to be white to be Judeo Christian to be major contributors to our cultur, to be 60% genetically Italian and interbreeding at an astonishing rate.

    Or you can continue the play and even people like myself will turn on you sadly admit you can not be trusted you will never assimilate you will always put your own culture and people interests before that of your adopted homes that allowing you to have the wealth and power you have earned without being one of us is equally f not more dangerous than having savage non whites move here by the millions.
  3. That said, I know the following thing, which anyone who has observed the American political scene surely also knows: A subset of American Jews—a subset, a minority—suffer from a kind of psychological deformation that keeps them trapped in a particular, strangely atavistic type of paranoia, of victim mentality.

    I have a name for them.

    JewE.

    Think of GOPe, and think of American Jews as the Republican Party circa 2004.

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  4. Saying there’s no anti-semitism in your archives is like a Good Progressive saying he’s never written anything politically incorrect. Even if it’s true that doesn’t mean it’ll be true tomorrow. Because there’s no hard definition of an anti-semite. Certainly it doesn’t mean someone who objectively hates Jews. It has come to mean anyone Jews, or those speaking for Jews, don’t like. Jews could start disliking you any day, if they don’t already.

    Once that happens, anything in your archive is anti-semitic by definition.

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    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig

    Certainly it doesn’t mean someone who objectively hates Jews. It has come to mean anyone Jews, or those speaking for Jews, don’t like. Jews could start disliking you any day, if they don’t already.
     
    I agree completely with 'guest' above. I would only add that, even if you never actually mentioned the J-word in any of those columns you wrote, they can still retroactively declare that such-and-such a phrase, thesis or even objective fact ('Jews are over-represented in academia, finance, etc.') is anti-semetic. When they own the media, there is no way you can defend yourself in public from such an accusation, however inapt or scurrilous.
    , @Wally
    'antisemitic':

    any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like
  5. @Glaivester

    That said, I know the following thing, which anyone who has observed the American political scene surely also knows: A subset of American Jews—a subset, a minority—suffer from a kind of psychological deformation that keeps them trapped in a particular, strangely atavistic type of paranoia, of victim mentality.
     
    I have a name for them.

    JewE.

    Think of GOPe, and think of American Jews as the Republican Party circa 2004.

    Can we call them Elders of Zion, please?

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    • Agree: Druid
    • Replies: @Karl
    > Can we call them Elders of Zion, please?


    there are Elders of Zion..... in Zion

    And we'd love to have good commercial relations with a White Nationalist country

    Can someone please establish one?

  6. Why are you talking about Cossacks and 1881 when it would be more to the point to mention Nazis and 1933-1945. That’s where their minds are trapped. Same way for neocons it’s always 1938 or ’39 and we’re Great Britain.

    But I suppose it’s a good thing that not every single page on the internet is about Nazis.

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    • Replies: @jake
    Derb is right about Cossacks. That subset of Jews fears Coassacks. To them,Nazis are very much Cossacks of the West. If you doubt that, pay attention to all the Jews, Neocon and Leftist, who make Putin into the worst thing possible. Putin they see as reviving the 'Cossacks.' That subset of Jews will always hate Russia the most - unless Russia is ruled by Jews or Marxists.
  7. Assuming that theory is true, maybe the goyim wouldn’t turn on the Jews if the Jews didn’t constantly agitate to flood the nation with foreigners and come up with retarded new ways to demonize the domestic population.

    That aside, I’m not sure left wing Jews really believe it’s 1881 Russia, or that their Judaic values compel them to be liberals. It’s more likely the other way around. They use their past victimhood as a fearmongering tactic, and their religion as moral support for their political views. Deep down, they are first and foremost true believers, worshiping at the altar of Egalitarianism.

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    Deep down, they are first and foremost true believers, worshiping at the altar of Egalitarianism.
     
    No. First and foremost they self-identify as Jews, and as such, as natural rulers of all forms of mud-people, i.e. anyone who is not a Jew. There is no such thing formed in their minds as "egalitarianism" per se. That's just a deceptive terminology. What is formed is "Babel", from the Genesis legend with the ominous (and currently accurately descriptive) ending phrase "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.”

    Jews are neo-nazis. They loot, pillage and burn. They push before them a host of defeated mud-people, with the intent of disrupting the next civilization they intend to pillage and burn.

    This time, it's the USA. Fasten your seatbelts; it's gonna be a bumpy ride.
    , @Joe Franklin

    Deep down, they are first and foremost true believers, worshiping at the altar of Egalitarianism.
     
    Modern Jewish people are class supremacist, specifically victim class supremacist.

    There's nothing egalitarian about victim class supremacy.

    Victim class supremacy takes the form of constant agitation in favor of illicit national entitlements for victim cultists, and demonization of oppressor class people.

    The popular euphemism for victim class people is "diversity".

    The popular euphemism for victim class people group entitlements is "inclusion".

    http://www.mindexchange.com/diversity.htm

    By Group: African American, Alternate Lifestyle, Asian, Disabled, Hispanic & Latino, Jewish, Native American, Women


    Both the US and Israel implement a victim class supremacy scheme as a national policy.
  8. That’s as anti-semitic as most of the more thoughtful on the alt-right are, Derbyshire. Even /Goebbels/ knew that ‘not all Jews are like that’ – apparently he had a Jewish history teacher who he loved. Your understanding has structure, while that of many lazier-thinking alt-righters does not.

    I wonder whether it’s connected to the phenomenon of people never really getting over a defeat – rejection in love, the American South forever mumbling old bones, Mexicans still smarting from the loss of their territory to America. Perhaps the difference in degree is due to Jews’ higher smarts and thus potency in this world, perhaps due to a higher-than-average sense of /their people/. Christ, I’ve heard NPR’s Ira Glass talk about ‘his people’.

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  9. The best way forward for a small, well-connected minority is to align with the dominant ethnic group and go forth from there. This is actually the best way forward for the Jews, and why they don’t simply do this is something I don’t understand. Any Jew who doesn’t want to do this is free to move to Israel – surely the said Jew also wouldn’t want the Palestinian Arabs to out number the Israeli Jews?

    The Jews are fighting an unending war to prevent 1933 from ever happening again, never mind that they’ve successfully associated Judaism with (Catholic, and European Protestant) Christianity, that Islam is arguably the most “anti-Semitic” religion out there, that they’d paint themselves into a corner by not looking like the dominant goyim.

    This is like setting fire to an oil rig – and its lifeboats – in the North Sea.

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    • Replies: @Miro23

    "The best way forward for a small, well-connected minority is to align with the dominant ethnic group and go forth from there. This is actually the best way forward for the Jews, and why they don’t simply do this is something I don’t understand."
     
    Like the Chinese oligarch's Guanxi in SE Asia? US Jews have already been doing this for years (English names, best friends/sponsors of leading Democrat and Republican dynasties - Clinton & Bush + sponsoring Congressmen across the board).

    I think the problem is their fascination with the success (from their point of view) of the Bolshevik Jews in Russia who exacted a massive revenge against native Russians and Ukrainians while establishing their own Jewish aristocracy. This is such an enticing prospect but requires weakening Anglo US society sufficiently to enable a successful Coup.
  10. I do not see anything uniquely or especially Jewish about either the far-left anti-white people or elitist anti-Trump Republicans, or all that much similar to each other.

    There is certainly a Jewish flavor of white ethnomasochism, and it is as greatly distasteful as the English, Swedish or Popish varieties.

    Regarding the global elite, it seems much more at its base Anglo-Saxon and more broadly Western European, and the Jews in it tend to be miscegenated (mostly with NW Europeans, increasingly with NE Asians) and ultra-assimilated. Bret Stephens wasn’t engaging in intensive Torah study at Middlesex boarding school, the University of Chicago, and the London School of Economics.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Regarding the global elite, it seems much more at its base Anglo-Saxon and more broadly Western European, and the Jews in it tend to be miscegenated (mostly with NW Europeans, increasingly with NE Asians) and ultra-assimilated. Bret Stephens wasn’t engaging in intensive Torah study at Middlesex boarding school, the University of Chicago, and the London School of Economics.
     
    Ashkenazi Jews, prior to their "miscegenating" with NW Europeans were already European genetically. Not Middle Eastern. They are certainly not genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible.
    , @Neil Templeton
    The stated hypothesis is that Jewish fear of peasant violence is driving an important share of the NeverTrump sentiment. How does the evidence you provide refute the hypothesis?
    , @Greg Bacon
    Lot, maybe you can explain to this poor, dumb Gentile why only Jews seem to be qualified to run the USA's finances, by having control over the US Treasury and the potent FED?

    Current US Treasury Secretary is Jacob Lew, his second is Sarah Bloom. Adam Gzubin is the head of the department flinging the economic sanctions against ME nations and Russia.
    Past Treasury heads, have been Tim Geithner; Larry Summers and Robert Rubin-who helped Clinton make it easier for Wall Street casinos to steal our money–all Jews and just for pointing out the truth, I'm guilty of anti-Semitism.
    The only Gentile recently was Hank Paulson, who was needed during the Great Depression of 2008 to reassure Americans that there is nothing wrong, go back to sleep.

    The FED is run by Janet Yellen, whose second in command, Stanley Fisher, is a dual-citizen, who was the past head of an Israel bank. Before Yellen it was 'Shalom' Bernanke, and before him it was Alan Greenspan.

    But don’t even think or wonder why no Gentile’s are appointed to these crucial positions, because that’s anti-Semitism and you’ll be hounded until you no longer exist in the cyber world.

    I could go into who controls the majority of the thoroughly rotten and corrupt US media, but let's stick with the FED and Treasury.

  11. Jews:
    the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral

    There are the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there are the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The absurd ‘holocau$t’ scam is the underpinning of our current problems.

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    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”
    - Gerard Menuhin / Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

    Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since 1869:

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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  12. For a government to favor its own people over foreigners: There’s something wrong with that? What? What, exactly?

    The problem with nativism for elites, Jewish and gentile alike, is that it isn’t global oligarchic capitalism, their preferred system. I really don’t think Bret Stephens has even a inchoate fear of middle america whites launching pogroms.

    Now for the far-left anti-white Jews, they are loonie enough I would not doubt they believe that.

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    "I really don’t think Bret Stephens has even a inchoate fear of middle america whites launching pogroms. "

    Maybe, but here's what Brett Stephens said at ~1:10:11:

    I've done everything in my power to stop this guy. I've done everything in my power to scream from the rooftops that this is a form of demagoguery that we saw in the 1930s in Europe, and in the 1970s in Latin America, we're seeing today in the Philippines. You can blame me for not having a big enough megaphone or for not being an articulate enough columnist, right ... I accept that, but don't blame me or you, or anyone else in this audience for this phenomenon of hatred, bigotry, nativism, and an angry turn at people who should not be blamed, whether it's the elites, or whether it's Hispanics or Muslims.
     
  13. I’d not an anti-Semite; I never have been; and I don’t have much time for anti-Semites.

    I don’t think you’ve debased yourself enough.

    A subset of American Jews—a subset, a minority—suffer from a kind of psychological deformation that keeps them trapped in a particular, strangely atavistic type of paranoia, of victim mentality.

    Our rulers are not scared. They do the things they do for power. Did the British conquer India to prevent an Indian invasion of Britain? Did the Mongols conquer half the world because they were afraid the Chinese were going to shoah them?

    Some people always want more.

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  14. @guest
    Can we call them Elders of Zion, please?

    > Can we call them Elders of Zion, please?

    there are Elders of Zion….. in Zion

    And we’d love to have good commercial relations with a White Nationalist country

    Can someone please establish one?

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  15. Derb, what have the jews or their America done for you? Nothing. Your kids didn’t get admitted to elite colleges and you are clipping coupons in retirement.
    You’d be better off if your world trip had ended in Galway with a nice red headed Irish woman. You’d have five or six kids with post graduate or professional qualifications and plenty of grandkids. Your mother might not have approved but that was Northampton. She’d probably have gritted her teeth and moved over as well.

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    You’d be better off if your world trip had ended in Galway with a nice red headed Irish woman. You’d have five or six kids with post graduate or professional qualifications and plenty of grandkids. Your mother might not have approved but that was Northampton. She’d probably have gritted her teeth and moved over as well.
     
    I don't get this. Derb was afflicted with yellow fever as a young man. Once stricken you have for life. He'd be miserable for life if he was stuck with a white wife. He'd probably end up like all those philosemitic cucks that abound.
  16. Excellent analysis, Derb!
    Growing up in a Jewish family, I was conditioned to think about pogroms and the Holocaust, whenever the issue of immigration came up. However, I was cured of this neurosis by being exposed to extreme diversity (i.e. getting the feeling that your hometown and school district are no longer part of America). Stephen Miller, a Jewish aide to Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump, seems to have had a similar “conversion” experience when he was growing up in Southern California. (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/stephen-miller-donald-trump-2016-policy-adviser-jeff-sessions-213992).

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    that is the problem. most white Christian Americans do not want the diversity which you need to get over your neurosis....
  17. The term anti-Semite has been tossed around so much that it no longer has the power to frighten Americans into shutting up.

    Is it anti-Semitism to wonder why so many American Jews, many with dual citizenship with that Apartheid nightmare, are always cheering on the slaughter in the ME while always providing cover for their fav nation whenever it goes on another homicidal rampage against defenseless Gaza and steals more land from the native Palestinians in the West Bank?

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    always providing cover for their fav nation whenever it goes on another homicidal rampage against defenseless Gaza and steals more land from the native Palestinians in the West Bank?
     
    The people who says this also can't help themselves about bashing white Americans for Indians, slavery, and not letting in millions more Muslims.
  18. “A subset of American Jews—a subset, a minority—suffer from a kind of psychological deformation that keeps them trapped in a particular, strangely atavistic type of paranoia, of victim mentality.”

    It’s just a subset, a minority, of blacks who commit murder and mayhem, and a subset, a minority, of moslems who do taharrush and terror attacks. What sort of argument/defense is this?

    Kevin MacDonald > John Derbyshire.

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  19. @Mark Green
    Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb's terrified of being labeled an 'anti-Semite'. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he's a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what's urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    I second that motion.

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  20. Interesting to compare and contrast with Australian Jews who have not been mostly Reform/Liberal escapers from Russian pogroms before the 1930s. And the 1940s and post WW2 large boost to numbers tended more to orthodoxy but, especially, to no particular 19th century Russian pogrom fixation. Still very pro Israel.

    Informed response to this very welcome.

    Australian Jews have tended to be strong on refugee issues (not very notably against border protection as a community I think but there are prominent Jewish names against Australia’s effective policies). Good Jewish displacement activities for those with the good old-fashioned WASP social conscience have been directed to doing ostensibly and arguably good things for Australia’s tiny Aboriginal population.

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  21. As a Christian, I’m convinceed that all paranoid and hostile Jews can be redeemed, can be indeed delivered from their paranoia and hostility. (That’s the good message to the Jews.) In this respect, I’m perhaps no anti-semite – in all other respects I will accept the label humbly and without protest.

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  22. @guest
    Saying there's no anti-semitism in your archives is like a Good Progressive saying he's never written anything politically incorrect. Even if it's true that doesn't mean it'll be true tomorrow. Because there's no hard definition of an anti-semite. Certainly it doesn't mean someone who objectively hates Jews. It has come to mean anyone Jews, or those speaking for Jews, don't like. Jews could start disliking you any day, if they don't already.

    Once that happens, anything in your archive is anti-semitic by definition.

    Certainly it doesn’t mean someone who objectively hates Jews. It has come to mean anyone Jews, or those speaking for Jews, don’t like. Jews could start disliking you any day, if they don’t already.

    I agree completely with ‘guest’ above. I would only add that, even if you never actually mentioned the J-word in any of those columns you wrote, they can still retroactively declare that such-and-such a phrase, thesis or even objective fact (‘Jews are over-represented in academia, finance, etc.’) is anti-semetic. When they own the media, there is no way you can defend yourself in public from such an accusation, however inapt or scurrilous.

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  23. I always suspected that Derb was “Skype wise”, but protested otherwise to help his career as a writer in New York… And yet they still sacked him and made him deplorable

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  24. However, I’ve turned against the word “philosemite,” for reasons I’ve explained elsewhere. Basically, it’s patronizing. If pressed on the issue, I call myself an anti-anti-Semite. I cherish my Jewish friends, and I have publicly—and again, I think, more than once—expressed gratitude in print for the positive contribution Jews have made to our civilization, way out of proportion to their numbers.

    As an English/British nativist I regard my country as a basically Christian one (yes, I know that’s old fashioned, and I know there was a time when my country was not Christian). I take the view that jewish influence is as alien as muslim, Buddhist and all the other non-Christian foreign influences that exist in my country. I do not, of course, take the view that all those foreign influences are equally benign or equally malign.

    I have been told by an obsessive jewish anti-antisemite snitch and witch-finder that my stating this was “probably the most disgustingly antisemitic comment I have ever seen on any forum“. This from a man who openly boasted about his role in arranging for actual prosecutions of several anti-Semitic “hate speechers” (and gloated extensively about the suffering he had been able to vicariously inflict upon his victims by using these laws against them).

    I grew up strongly pro-Israel and in a household which could probably be classed as philo-semitic. It was only after I watched Israel becoming increasingly the cause of trouble in the ME once its military security had been assured, in the 1980s and 1990s, and I began to be harassed by jewish zealots and partisans for criticism of Israel, that it even occurred to me to regard jews and jewishness as having any particular negative aspects, in the way I have always viewed islam. Further movement in that direction resulted from recognising that jewish influence in my own country’s politics (often via US media and politics) was frequently massively harmful, in advocating for wars of aggression and interventionism, aligning us with Israel, and pushing aggressively globalist, anti-white, and socially liberal agendas.

    The final seal on that journey was set in place by the direct jewish harassment I have received in recent years merely for expressing opinions such as those above. When someone threatens to have me prosecuted for expressing my opinions, I take it personally

    Nowadays I tend to regard jewish influence as broadly negative, as I long have regarded muslim influence. Such a judgement is, of course, only ever a generalisation.

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    I think this Chesterton quote is apt:

    “But let there be one single-clause bill; one simple and sweeping law about Jews, and no other. Be it enacted, by the King’s Most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and the Commons in Parliament assembled, that every Jew must be dressed like an Arab. Let him sit on the Woolsack, but let him sit there dressed as an Arab. Let him preach in St. Paul’s Cathedral, but let him preach there dressed as an Arab. It is not my point at present to dwell on the pleasing if flippant fancy of how much this would transform the political scene; of the dapper figure of Sir Herbert Samuel swathed as a Bedouin, or Sir Alfred Mond gaining a yet greater grandeur from the gorgeous and trailing robes of the East. If my image is quaint my intention is quite serious; and the point of it is not personal to any particular Jew. The point applies to any Jew, and to our own recovery of healthier relations with him. The point is that we should know where we are; and he would know where he is, which is in a foreign land.”
     
    I have half a mind to drop this gem into the discussion at your link.
    , @Neil Templeton
    I clicked on the DT comment link you provided, great reading! I have to ask, since "Robberdog" was condemning your attempts to virally infect proper discourse with nativist argument; did you receive a great deal of pushback from other commenters as well? It would follow that a multitude of other commenters would also recognize your insidious efforts to sabotage the customer base of the magazine.
    , @Sam Shama
    I was raised and educated in the U.K. and consider myself a bit of a monarchist. I am jewish. My question is, how does this character you were crossing words with, have anonymous commenters prosecuted?
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    @Lot
    I do not see anything uniquely or especially Jewish about either the far-left anti-white people or elitist anti-Trump Republicans, or all that much similar to each other.

    There is certainly a Jewish flavor of white ethnomasochism, and it is as greatly distasteful as the English, Swedish or Popish varieties.

    Regarding the global elite, it seems much more at its base Anglo-Saxon and more broadly Western European, and the Jews in it tend to be miscegenated (mostly with NW Europeans, increasingly with NE Asians) and ultra-assimilated. Bret Stephens wasn't engaging in intensive Torah study at Middlesex boarding school, the University of Chicago, and the London School of Economics.

    Regarding the global elite, it seems much more at its base Anglo-Saxon and more broadly Western European, and the Jews in it tend to be miscegenated (mostly with NW Europeans, increasingly with NE Asians) and ultra-assimilated. Bret Stephens wasn’t engaging in intensive Torah study at Middlesex boarding school, the University of Chicago, and the London School of Economics.

    Ashkenazi Jews, prior to their “miscegenating” with NW Europeans were already European genetically. Not Middle Eastern. They are certainly not genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible.

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    Dumb. Your own link largely opposes your claim (see the section on Y chromosomes), and the scientific consensus on genetic and historical evidence is entirely against you. Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible, and also have admixture from other regions (mostly Italy in the case of Ashkenazi Jews). This is settled science, and you are either ignorant of it or (more likely) intentionally lying.
  26. I love that notion that a panel of two Jews, two Christians, all four Lille-White, privileged, connected, “educated”, sit around and bat about the percentage of Trump voters that are irredeemable and deplorable and racist. They name the group, White, working class, lower-caste Trump supporters. Then, they assign varying levels of racism to us? And the Jewish debaters of course, in THEIR racism, assign higher levels of racism to the Trump Goyim than the Christian debaters and of course, the Jews consider US irredeemable more than the Gentile elites at the panel debate.

    These are the elites that set the illegals on the rest of us, empower Blacks to their violence (not a word for THEIR racism and violence, of course) and live in their gated communities traveling on armed security details and limousines. This panel, they’re the same coin, different side, both sides elite, except the Jews have more money, no doubt. Being a Multi-Culti Deplorable however, I will happily observe if not assist, the anarchy that goes looking for these elites. When the balloon goes up, when the gated communities are swamped and the mobs are looking for these people to repay the anarchy these elites themselves create, the mobs will not discriminate, they will cut ALL the elite throats. Mustn’t be anti-Semite! In that scenario, ALL the elites die.

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    well said. when hillary gets in the fun will begin. btw, any jew who supports muslim migration is signing their own death warrent. othodox jews are voting trump. ((i)) can not begin to even understand the rest. the elites do what they do for $$. as for ordinary jews? don't ask ((me)), i never got along w/most of them. after they did whiteflight, they should have learned their lesson.
  27. John Derbyshire – I’m afraid like the most western brainwashed people you don’t know anything about ANTISEMITISM.

    I remember, a few years ago, Dr. Richard Falk, former UNHRC special envoy for Palestine commented on one of my posts saying that my applying the word JEW is ‘antisemitic’ as it insults the JEWISH PEOPLE.

    In 2015, I learned the truth while watching how the British Organized Jewry condemned Jeremy Corbyn for attending a few Palestinian events which involved British Jewish blogger Paul Eisen. The ANTISEMITISM AWARD has nothing to do with hating Jews. It’s all about Jewish occupation of Palestine and the SIX MILLION DIED unproven story.

    “I have no contact now whatsoever with Paul Eisen and Deir Yassin Remembered. I did attend a number of events concerning Deir Yassin Remembered some years ago, I think two or three of them.” Corbyn said that at that time he didn’t know Paul Eisen was a Holocaust denier, otherwise I had not associated with him.

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/08/19/in-defense-of-paul-eisen/

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  28. I was always surprised by the gentiles that enjoyed Borat. It was one big joke and insult to American goys yet those same goys, many who also probably liked the movie Jackass, loved it.

    The lousy creep who played Borat got his rear beaten by a gentile vibrant in New York City because he played one of his routines on him

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    More of an attack on the particular varieties of goyim cool people in big cities, Jewish and otherwise, don't like.

    If you look at some of his earlier stuff as Ali G he started making fun of famous people. Thing is, the famous and well-connected watched HBO or knew people who did so they got wise to him. So naturally he had to go after rural and lower-income people who didn't know who Ali G or Borat were.
  29. @Mark Green
    Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb's terrified of being labeled an 'anti-Semite'. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he's a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what's urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

    No, I think Derb has it right; it is in fact a small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome. Looked at the Jewish assimilation rates lately?

    Gilad Atzmon is mad. Being Jewish he permits himself a distorted privilege of parsing an innumerable variety of different types of Jewish paranoia which run the gamut of political, ethno-cultural and historical reasons. It’s bloody ridiculous. As for Giraldi, I think he’s got a point; AIPAC is a not a force for great good, not for Israel and assuredly not for this country. It has a membership of 100,000. However at time he takes his position to a place where it fails to distinguish cause from effect [who drives U.S. aid to Israel? Think]

    There are many organisations and advocacy groups which boast much larger memberships. Yet we are housed in a majoritarian rule based society, where advocacy remains an important cornerstone. For example, you might be a gun ownership advocate [I am] and therefore an NRA member. Many aren’t, and these persons are free to express their voices, indeed free to attempt a change, but only through the same majoritarian system.

    I think your position is flawed where you see the Jewish hand at work, your default factor, behind all perceived wrongdoing. Well fine, you are free to think so, but it does not make you right.

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    No, I think Derb has it right; it is in fact a small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome. Looked at the Jewish assimilation rates lately?

    Gilad Atzmon is mad.
     
    Hi, Sam. I have to admit, I really missed exchanging comments with you. During my hiatus, I had the opportunity to read GA's The Wondering Who? Needless to say, it was an interesting read. In Chapter 1, he makes the following observation:

    As far as self-perception is concerned, those who call themselves Jews could be divided into three main categories:

    1. Those who follow Judaism.
    2. Those who regard themselves as human beings that happen to be of Jewish origin.
    3. Those who put their Jewish-ness over and above all of their other traits.
     
    You once informed UR readers that most Jews are Zionists. I guess this means that they fall into Atzmon's 3rd category? If that's true, doesn't that call into question your claim that a "small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome"?

    As for Giraldi,... [AIPAC] has a membership of 100,000. However at time he takes his position to a place where it fails to distinguish cause from effect [who drives U.S. aid to Israel? Think]
     
    I've been thinking, but being a dumb goy, I can't for the life of me figure out "who drives US aid to Israel," except for the Lobby.

    There are many organisations and advocacy groups which boast much larger memberships. Yet we are housed in a majoritarian rule based society, where advocacy remains an important cornerstone.
     
    True. But can these organizations and advocacy groups boast donor names like Saban and Adelson?

    I think your position is flawed where you see the Jewish hand at work, your default factor, behind all perceived wrongdoing.
     
    Not "all," Sam. But I think you know how significant that influence is and the damage it's doing to American interests... just ask Mearsheimer and Walt.
    , @Alec Leamas

    No, I think Derb has it right; it is in fact a small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome. Looked at the Jewish assimilation rates lately?
     
    I think you're conflating intermarriage with assimilation. Jews have always intermarried in differing degrees, and DNA analysis proposes that Ashkenazi Jews collected gentile wives from the Italian peninsula on their way to disbursing across Europe.

    Further, who is assimilating into whom? Are Jews singing Dixie and attending NASCAR races? Are they practicing Christianity and joining the armed forces of the United States in large numbers? The elite New Class culture is an essentially Jewish creation. Critique, nihilism, subversion and chauvinism draped in the mantle of virtue. Sneer at your supposed cultural inferiors. Mock the faith and values of their fathers. Patriotism is a punchline, replaced by urban cosmopolitanism.
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    @Rever Leo
    Derb, what have the jews or their America done for you? Nothing. Your kids didn't get admitted to elite colleges and you are clipping coupons in retirement.
    You'd be better off if your world trip had ended in Galway with a nice red headed Irish woman. You'd have five or six kids with post graduate or professional qualifications and plenty of grandkids. Your mother might not have approved but that was Northampton. She'd probably have gritted her teeth and moved over as well.

    You’d be better off if your world trip had ended in Galway with a nice red headed Irish woman. You’d have five or six kids with post graduate or professional qualifications and plenty of grandkids. Your mother might not have approved but that was Northampton. She’d probably have gritted her teeth and moved over as well.

    I don’t get this. Derb was afflicted with yellow fever as a young man. Once stricken you have for life. He’d be miserable for life if he was stuck with a white wife. He’d probably end up like all those philosemitic cucks that abound.

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    I'm a bit intrigued about Derb's moving from a more white country to a less white one .

    My impression is that it is still much easier to live your life in a pretty much white world in the UK than the US but I guess it depends where exactly you live ( ie not the New York region which rivals downtown Tel Aviv )
  31. The viciousness and prejudiceses of Kossaks have been overwritten by Zionists’ viciousness and prejudiceses to “others” long time ago.
    Ben Gurion: “What matters is not what the goyim say, but what the Jews do.”
    See what the Jews did when they were left to their own devices.
    1. In Israel, Zionists have created torture chambers that would please Mengele.
    2. The “only democracy” in the Middle East has classified all documents related to Nakba (the Palestinian Holocaust committed by Jewish settlers). There is also a history of Gaza Ghetto (rings Warsaw Ghetto) and the well-documented acts of “mowing the grass” – bloody collective punishment of the Israel-occupied population of Gaza Ghetto.
    3. But the greatest crime against humanity was the ziocons’ (Zionist neoconservatives’) planning and implementation of the murderous wars in the Middle East in the name of mythical Eretz Israel (http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815).
    As a result of the plan, millions died (among them the multitude of children) and millions were displaced (see the refugee-flooded Europe and the washed out dead on the shores of Mediterranean sea). This is a bloody stain on the Jewish tribe – a stain that was intuited beforehand by Einstein, Arendt and other consciousness and bright Jewish minds.
    The powerful Israel-firsters acted criminally towards the Middle East states in cahoots with other war profiteers, by using the US might for the Israel’s ends.
    To assure the US participation in the illegal wars against Iraq, Libya, and Syria, the Israel-firsters (Feith, Wolfowitz, Bernard Lewis, Elliott Abrams et al) and their gentile collaborators (Cheney, Rumsfeld and such) first “modified” the US “brain” by weeding out the professional experts in the Middle East. (“Test by Fire: The War Presidency of George W. Bush,” by R. Swansbrough; “The architects of war: where are they now?:” https://thinkprogress.org/the-architects-of-war-where-are-they-now-52ff022f9bfe#.bllrvabjl).
    “That approach [of weeding out the experts] was vividly described some years ago by Col. Pat Lang (ret.), a former Green Beret and the top Middle East analyst in the Defence Intelligence Agency who had spent most oif his career in the region and who had been recommended to head the Pentagon office of special operations under Bush. Asked by Undersecretary for Policy Douglas Feith, a neo-conservative close to Abrams, whether it was true he knew Arabs well and that he spoke Arabic fluently, Lang replied affirmatively. “That’s too bad,” Lang quoted Feith as telling him. “And that was the end of the interview.”
    Thus, it was not only Iraqis who were not listened to; also ignored were those in and outside the government who were most knowledgeable about Iraqis…” https://lobelog.com/as-iraq-anniversary-fades-strategic-narcissism-stands-out/
    An illustration to the Israel-firsters’ attitude towards the US:
    “Neuro-parasitogy of the Jewel Wasp and its Zombie Cockroach Host:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovo_T0KqdYg

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  32. @Randal

    However, I’ve turned against the word “philosemite,” for reasons I’ve explained elsewhere. Basically, it’s patronizing. If pressed on the issue, I call myself an anti-anti-Semite. I cherish my Jewish friends, and I have publicly—and again, I think, more than once—expressed gratitude in print for the positive contribution Jews have made to our civilization, way out of proportion to their numbers.
     
    As an English/British nativist I regard my country as a basically Christian one (yes, I know that's old fashioned, and I know there was a time when my country was not Christian). I take the view that jewish influence is as alien as muslim, Buddhist and all the other non-Christian foreign influences that exist in my country. I do not, of course, take the view that all those foreign influences are equally benign or equally malign.

    I have been told by an obsessive jewish anti-antisemite snitch and witch-finder that my stating this was "probably the most disgustingly antisemitic comment I have ever seen on any forum". This from a man who openly boasted about his role in arranging for actual prosecutions of several anti-Semitic "hate speechers" (and gloated extensively about the suffering he had been able to vicariously inflict upon his victims by using these laws against them).

    I grew up strongly pro-Israel and in a household which could probably be classed as philo-semitic. It was only after I watched Israel becoming increasingly the cause of trouble in the ME once its military security had been assured, in the 1980s and 1990s, and I began to be harassed by jewish zealots and partisans for criticism of Israel, that it even occurred to me to regard jews and jewishness as having any particular negative aspects, in the way I have always viewed islam. Further movement in that direction resulted from recognising that jewish influence in my own country's politics (often via US media and politics) was frequently massively harmful, in advocating for wars of aggression and interventionism, aligning us with Israel, and pushing aggressively globalist, anti-white, and socially liberal agendas.

    The final seal on that journey was set in place by the direct jewish harassment I have received in recent years merely for expressing opinions such as those above. When someone threatens to have me prosecuted for expressing my opinions, I take it personally

    Nowadays I tend to regard jewish influence as broadly negative, as I long have regarded muslim influence. Such a judgement is, of course, only ever a generalisation.

    I think this Chesterton quote is apt:

    “But let there be one single-clause bill; one simple and sweeping law about Jews, and no other. Be it enacted, by the King’s Most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and the Commons in Parliament assembled, that every Jew must be dressed like an Arab. Let him sit on the Woolsack, but let him sit there dressed as an Arab. Let him preach in St. Paul’s Cathedral, but let him preach there dressed as an Arab. It is not my point at present to dwell on the pleasing if flippant fancy of how much this would transform the political scene; of the dapper figure of Sir Herbert Samuel swathed as a Bedouin, or Sir Alfred Mond gaining a yet greater grandeur from the gorgeous and trailing robes of the East. If my image is quaint my intention is quite serious; and the point of it is not personal to any particular Jew. The point applies to any Jew, and to our own recovery of healthier relations with him. The point is that we should know where we are; and he would know where he is, which is in a foreign land.”

    I have half a mind to drop this gem into the discussion at your link.

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    LOL! Sadly I think comments are now closed on that article, but you should definitely look out for that individual on other Disqus threads and drop that one on him. I'd say his most likely response will be to personally abuse you as a revolting anti-Semite, explain to you that you are that way because you've had no achievements in life, and try to get your comment censored and you banned from posting at whatever publication it is posted on. If you persist, he'll try to get you prosecuted, if he thinks you are in one of the countries that has already abandoned free political speech for "hate speech" laws.
  33. @guest
    Why are you talking about Cossacks and 1881 when it would be more to the point to mention Nazis and 1933-1945. That's where their minds are trapped. Same way for neocons it's always 1938 or '39 and we're Great Britain.

    But I suppose it's a good thing that not every single page on the internet is about Nazis.

    Derb is right about Cossacks. That subset of Jews fears Coassacks. To them,Nazis are very much Cossacks of the West. If you doubt that, pay attention to all the Jews, Neocon and Leftist, who make Putin into the worst thing possible. Putin they see as reviving the ‘Cossacks.’ That subset of Jews will always hate Russia the most – unless Russia is ruled by Jews or Marxists.

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    That subset of Jews will always hate Russia the most – unless Russia is ruled by Jews or Marxists.
     
    Once upon a time, there was an Austrian corporal who regarded this as a distinction without a difference.
  34. John is usually clear headed. This issue is one that he treats like most conservatives do race. He can’t bring himself to admit the truth so he sugar coats it.

    It is more than a small subset of Jews who are waging war on white society and people through open borders, shaming and cultural marxism. It is almost the entire Jewish elite which, as we know, dominates the broadcast news industry, banking, entertainment industries and is prominant disproportionately in print/online journalism and academia. There has been a very open, blunt full out assault on white people who won’t go with the plan ever since the Trump train started rolling down the tracks. I and a lot of others are fed up.

    I just wish there could be some type of negative consequence for Jews for betraying their country and declaring war on the citizens who built it. Alas, Israel is safeguarded by both parties. The only positive note is that Jews are reaping the negative consequences of helping turn universities into leftist indoctrination centers and flooding the country with Mexicans and Muslims. Anti-Israel sentiments are rising on the left and anti-Jewish sentiments seem to be tagging along. How cool is that?

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  35. Jooie brainpower is vastly overrated. For your own survival, voluntarily remove yourselves from public life and go back to your specialty….cheating the white trash peasantry at your crappy mattress and bauble stores, and taking a slice of everyone’s everything via wall street and the banks. It’s called LOW PROFILE. Make your shekels but stop trying to kill your host…….a word to the wise.

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  36. This article is spot on. Creepy Jews like Rubin, Jonah Greenberg, Ben Shapiro and Bret Stephens are the real threat to ordinary Jewish people. Ron Unz, who puts out the Unz Review, is a normal, patriotic American. He is, I assume, proud of his Jewish heritage. At some point the Unz’s are going to have to deal with the dingleberrys who are really the ones who stoke the fires of anti-Semitism.

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  37. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    The Democratic Party

    A Muzzie Mohammadan Gang Rape Army and Chaz Bono coalition

    The Greatest Freak Show on Earth Ladies and Gentleman!!!!

    John

    Matt Lauer sat across from me last summer one morning at Hamptons Coffee.If I see him there again at Hamptons Coffee I’ll say to him:”Matt…I just want to thank you for neurologically destabilizing Hillary with your questions about her toilet email server”.Those midnight Huma Muzzie lickings can sure turn a brain into a spongified Cantor Set-with dem there MUZZIE SY…PHY….LUSS SPHIROCHEETES!!!!!(Cornu Spiral?..be the right drilling shape) drilling away…

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  38. @Anonymous

    You’d be better off if your world trip had ended in Galway with a nice red headed Irish woman. You’d have five or six kids with post graduate or professional qualifications and plenty of grandkids. Your mother might not have approved but that was Northampton. She’d probably have gritted her teeth and moved over as well.
     
    I don't get this. Derb was afflicted with yellow fever as a young man. Once stricken you have for life. He'd be miserable for life if he was stuck with a white wife. He'd probably end up like all those philosemitic cucks that abound.

    I’m a bit intrigued about Derb’s moving from a more white country to a less white one .

    My impression is that it is still much easier to live your life in a pretty much white world in the UK than the US but I guess it depends where exactly you live ( ie not the New York region which rivals downtown Tel Aviv )

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  39. Looks like Derb is finally starting to “get it” on “the Jewish Question.” Good for him. As he correctly points out, Jews in the intellectual/media/government class are constantly forming de facto coalitions with other minorities against the white, Christian, American, so-called “nativist” culture.

    What he does not say, but I think he would quite readily acknowledge, is that nearly all of the aforementioned Jews act in a way that is extremely nativist regarding Israel, and are extremely protective of Jewish identity, while denying the white Christian majority the same right to be as protective of their identity and culture. Border walls, profiling of terrorists, refusal to perform gay marriage or marriage of Jews and Goyim, and a heavily armed citizenry are acceptable for Israel — but not for America.

    To us Goyim, this looks like glaring hypocrisy and an intolerable double-standard, while “God’s Chosen people” regard a different set of rules favoring themselves as quite natural and acceptable.

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  40. @WJ
    I was always surprised by the gentiles that enjoyed Borat. It was one big joke and insult to American goys yet those same goys, many who also probably liked the movie Jackass, loved it.


    The lousy creep who played Borat got his rear beaten by a gentile vibrant in New York City because he played one of his routines on him

    More of an attack on the particular varieties of goyim cool people in big cities, Jewish and otherwise, don’t like.

    If you look at some of his earlier stuff as Ali G he started making fun of famous people. Thing is, the famous and well-connected watched HBO or knew people who did so they got wise to him. So naturally he had to go after rural and lower-income people who didn’t know who Ali G or Borat were.

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  41. In this mentality, it’s always 1881 and we’re still in Russia.

    No, it’s always 1933 all over again and there’s always some Hitler incarnate that we must confront whether Milosevic, Saddam, Assad, Putin and now Trump.

    …….and I am speaking of a subset of a subset of American Jews—into a generalized dislike, a prejudice, against white Christians.
    .
    That’s why so many Jews are so passionately committed to mass Third World immigration.

    First it’s a subset of a subset of American Jews then it’s a very large number, possibly a majority. For the record, 80% of American Jews vote for the liberal/left wing Democrat who is often hostile to Christianity and white people. I think that number dipped to 70% in 2012 not because of Obama’s antagonism towards America and the founding European stock but due to his perceived antagonism towards their beloved Israel.

    All ten Jewish senators support amnesty and race replacement legal immigration levels. Not a coincidence.

    The Jews think they are being smart by implementing and supporting policies that will lead to the diminution and race replacement of white Americans who have been their very best host race. But little do they know that the cossacks of the future will be black, Latino and Muslim and whitey will be unwilling or unable to come to their rescue as in WWII.

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    • Replies: @Him Over There
    It's power that matters not intentions. Intentions can change overnight but power is built up over generations. Whites have the power to seriously harm Jews, even if they don't wish it, whereas non-whites don't have this power, even if they do wish it.
  42. @guest
    Saying there's no anti-semitism in your archives is like a Good Progressive saying he's never written anything politically incorrect. Even if it's true that doesn't mean it'll be true tomorrow. Because there's no hard definition of an anti-semite. Certainly it doesn't mean someone who objectively hates Jews. It has come to mean anyone Jews, or those speaking for Jews, don't like. Jews could start disliking you any day, if they don't already.

    Once that happens, anything in your archive is anti-semitic by definition.

    ‘antisemitic’:

    any thought or person that a Jew doesn’t like

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    Spot on, but I'd modify this way:

    "any thought or opinion held by a white Christian that a Jew doesn't like".

    The fact is Jewish animus is aimed solely at whites and especially those of the Christian persuasion. Look at what's happening in France and Germany where the Muslims are openly attacking Jews, especially in France where they are being forced to flee the country.

    It doesn't matter if a Jew is beaten, shot or stabbed, there is no outrage among them.

    What are they upset about here in the U.S. Is it open borders? No. Is it Muslim terrorism? No. Is it our cities deteriorating under a onslaught of 3rd worlders? No.

    Then what are they angry about? Trump and his policies regarding trade and immigration and his nationalism.

    These are anathema to the Jewish values. Not American values, Jewish values. There is a distinct difference between the two.
  43. The defensive posture of Jews is, at this point, indistinguishable from bald aggression. If there ever was a meaningful distinction it has surely been lost.

    The cycle is so predictable and inevitable as to be almost purposeful. Jews are hostile to the host society purportedly as a prophylactic measure. The host society has its fill of Jews and their hostility and as a consequence has them out one way or the other. The remnant moves on to a new host and repeats the process.

    At a certain point it becomes evident that the defensive rationale is cover for a sense of Jewish supremacy. It is right that Jews should rule the host by their wits and turn it into a multicult bazaar in which they can become wealthy hawking their wares even if the host population would find it confounding and alienating. To oppose the project or identify it as essentially Jewish is tantamount to organizing a pogrom.

    Jews having been given such a free reign in the West it is punishable as a crime to state what I have just written in some jurisdictions – is this state of affairs truly a defensive measure? Is it not clear that this is aggression disguised as defense, vast power disguised as weakness?

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    • Replies: @Dr. X
    Excellent comment.
    , @KenH

    Is it not clear that this is aggression disguised as defense, vast power disguised as weakness?
     
    By way of deception thou shalt do war. This is the motto of the Mossad but could also be the modus operandi of Jews living in the diaspora.
  44. @Anonymous

    Regarding the global elite, it seems much more at its base Anglo-Saxon and more broadly Western European, and the Jews in it tend to be miscegenated (mostly with NW Europeans, increasingly with NE Asians) and ultra-assimilated. Bret Stephens wasn’t engaging in intensive Torah study at Middlesex boarding school, the University of Chicago, and the London School of Economics.
     
    Ashkenazi Jews, prior to their "miscegenating" with NW Europeans were already European genetically. Not Middle Eastern. They are certainly not genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible.

    Dumb. Your own link largely opposes your claim (see the section on Y chromosomes), and the scientific consensus on genetic and historical evidence is entirely against you. Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible, and also have admixture from other regions (mostly Italy in the case of Ashkenazi Jews). This is settled science, and you are either ignorant of it or (more likely) intentionally lying.

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    Bullshit, hasbara boy. The Jews are like the modern "Assyrians" - the residue of a religious community pretending to be an ethnic group, and dressing themselves up in stolen feathers. Your interlocutor is entirely right about the evidence, and you are woefully wrong.
    , @dearieme
    "Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible": as I understand it, Ashkenazis are about 50% descended from people of the Near East, who may or may not have been "Jews of the Bible", but it would be unsurprising if they were. Which "Jews of the Bible" is another question: to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on? In fact, is there any sense in asking about the relationship between real, historical people, and people who occur in myths?

    Meantime, the current Palestinians are (wild guess) maybe 70% descended from the "Jews of the Bible" of Jesus's time. If anyone has any facts, rather than a wild guess, I'd be interested to hear them.
  45. @Sam Shama
    No, I think Derb has it right; it is in fact a small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome. Looked at the Jewish assimilation rates lately?

    Gilad Atzmon is mad. Being Jewish he permits himself a distorted privilege of parsing an innumerable variety of different types of Jewish paranoia which run the gamut of political, ethno-cultural and historical reasons. It's bloody ridiculous. As for Giraldi, I think he's got a point; AIPAC is a not a force for great good, not for Israel and assuredly not for this country. It has a membership of 100,000. However at time he takes his position to a place where it fails to distinguish cause from effect [who drives U.S. aid to Israel? Think]

    There are many organisations and advocacy groups which boast much larger memberships. Yet we are housed in a majoritarian rule based society, where advocacy remains an important cornerstone. For example, you might be a gun ownership advocate [I am] and therefore an NRA member. Many aren't, and these persons are free to express their voices, indeed free to attempt a change, but only through the same majoritarian system.

    I think your position is flawed where you see the Jewish hand at work, your default factor, behind all perceived wrongdoing. Well fine, you are free to think so, but it does not make you right.

    No, I think Derb has it right; it is in fact a small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome. Looked at the Jewish assimilation rates lately?

    Gilad Atzmon is mad.

    Hi, Sam. I have to admit, I really missed exchanging comments with you. During my hiatus, I had the opportunity to read GA’s The Wondering Who? Needless to say, it was an interesting read. In Chapter 1, he makes the following observation:

    As far as self-perception is concerned, those who call themselves Jews could be divided into three main categories:

    1. Those who follow Judaism.
    2. Those who regard themselves as human beings that happen to be of Jewish origin.
    3. Those who put their Jewish-ness over and above all of their other traits.

    You once informed UR readers that most Jews are Zionists. I guess this means that they fall into Atzmon’s 3rd category? If that’s true, doesn’t that call into question your claim that a “small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome”?

    As for Giraldi,… [AIPAC] has a membership of 100,000. However at time he takes his position to a place where it fails to distinguish cause from effect [who drives U.S. aid to Israel? Think]

    I’ve been thinking, but being a dumb goy, I can’t for the life of me figure out “who drives US aid to Israel,” except for the Lobby.

    There are many organisations and advocacy groups which boast much larger memberships. Yet we are housed in a majoritarian rule based society, where advocacy remains an important cornerstone.

    True. But can these organizations and advocacy groups boast donor names like Saban and Adelson?

    I think your position is flawed where you see the Jewish hand at work, your default factor, behind all perceived wrongdoing.

    Not “all,” Sam. But I think you know how significant that influence is and the damage it’s doing to American interests… just ask Mearsheimer and Walt.

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    Hi Geo,
    I missed it as well adelfós, philosophical Greeks being a pain and I being a masochist for ethno-political vernacular! :-)

    As I recall [at least that is my position] I remarked that many jews, especially the ones that contribute to AIPAC are zionists in varying degrees. There are a 100k members, about a 1000 unreasonably wealthy. The most prominent ones like Saban and Adelson are extreme zionists. How does one go about preventing anyone from contributing to their chosen advocacy group? You tell me. If FARA is applicable, so be it. However I don't see it happening.

    I'd say most American Jews are not preoccupied with Israel but impressions are driven by a vocal minority of busybodies. Silence them, quieten their strident tones using your equal right to voice the contrary, and mission accomplished you shall have.
    , @Sam Shama
    Forgot to mention: Aid to Israel is driven hugely by the armaments business. Its aided by AIPAC's advocacy as well. I cannot place objective weights on each, but let's just assume 50/50 [ I think its more like 80/20 biased in the direction of the arms interests]. Take away "aid" to Israel and some other way of recycling that money will be found. Count on it.
  46. For those here saying its just a small group of jews that are the problem, please note that jews overwhelmingly support left wing movements and governments everywhere in the world (ignoring Israel for obvious reasons). Their voting habits will tell the same story whichever country you are in.

    But lets for argument sakes say it is just the elite jews, the problem is still where did these elite jews come from ? Blankfein, Zuckerberg, Soros, Marx, Rubin, Howard Stern, etc, etc, most of them had humble origins, yet ultimately they behave like they do because of their jewish nature. This is really the main problem, its easy to say its the elite, but fundamentally it is not because of that, it is because of their jewish nature. That is why I say that anti semitism is a perfectly rational reaction to the problem of semitism, their behaviour is very predictable and if you are pro white then anti semitism is a very logical thing to do.

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  47. @Sam Shama
    No, I think Derb has it right; it is in fact a small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome. Looked at the Jewish assimilation rates lately?

    Gilad Atzmon is mad. Being Jewish he permits himself a distorted privilege of parsing an innumerable variety of different types of Jewish paranoia which run the gamut of political, ethno-cultural and historical reasons. It's bloody ridiculous. As for Giraldi, I think he's got a point; AIPAC is a not a force for great good, not for Israel and assuredly not for this country. It has a membership of 100,000. However at time he takes his position to a place where it fails to distinguish cause from effect [who drives U.S. aid to Israel? Think]

    There are many organisations and advocacy groups which boast much larger memberships. Yet we are housed in a majoritarian rule based society, where advocacy remains an important cornerstone. For example, you might be a gun ownership advocate [I am] and therefore an NRA member. Many aren't, and these persons are free to express their voices, indeed free to attempt a change, but only through the same majoritarian system.

    I think your position is flawed where you see the Jewish hand at work, your default factor, behind all perceived wrongdoing. Well fine, you are free to think so, but it does not make you right.

    No, I think Derb has it right; it is in fact a small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome. Looked at the Jewish assimilation rates lately?

    I think you’re conflating intermarriage with assimilation. Jews have always intermarried in differing degrees, and DNA analysis proposes that Ashkenazi Jews collected gentile wives from the Italian peninsula on their way to disbursing across Europe.

    Further, who is assimilating into whom? Are Jews singing Dixie and attending NASCAR races? Are they practicing Christianity and joining the armed forces of the United States in large numbers? The elite New Class culture is an essentially Jewish creation. Critique, nihilism, subversion and chauvinism draped in the mantle of virtue. Sneer at your supposed cultural inferiors. Mock the faith and values of their fathers. Patriotism is a punchline, replaced by urban cosmopolitanism.

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    Are you singing Dixie and attending Nassacre on a regular basis? Are those the pinnacle of American cultural markers?

    I'd say football, apple pie, thanksgiving, love for the works of Hemmingway, Faulkner, Melville , Lee are more American. And plenty of Jews do that. In fact I'd speculate without direct evidence that proportionally similar to the general population.

    I am familiar with the genetic studies. In fact there are some whole genome studies which found startling results suggesting wider admixture and Jewish dropout from identification with the faith. It is extremely expensive to remain a Jew [a direct corollary being remaining members are generally wealthier]. Google helps.

    [Critique, nihilism, subversion and chauvinism draped in the mantle of virtue. Sneer at your supposed cultural inferiors]

    Yes, and you have observed all this yourself among the many Jews you call friends and neighbours, am I right? It's unmitigated nonsense. Spare me the 'patriotic' drumbeat please and recount your experience, even a few, where you've felt a Jewish person pulling cultural rank over you, and I will show you an idiot. Most likely you don't have any.
  48. Its funny that people like Rubin and Stephens are all multiculturalism for the US and all nativist apartheid when it comes to Israel. There is a psychological term called projection which states you project onto others your own failings. I think it sums up these gatekeepers except the rabble they lost control over supports their vision of Israel too. The only reason to pay attention to Rubin is to get a good belly laugh from her nativist war propaganda for Israel. The comments section at the Washington Post is always better, with most of the people making fun of her instead of agreeing with her.

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  49. Jews are very politically active as a group, but I’ve never seen groups of Jews protest against immigration and the displacement of whites, or violence against whites in the U.S. or Europe. Jews are far more likely to protest against the displacement of Palestinians by Israel than they are to oppose demographic change in the West, or racial violence and rape directed against whites by minorities, and they aren’t very likely to do even that.

    I’m afraid that The Derb just labeled much of his audience “irredeemables.”

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  50. @Mark Green
    Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb's terrified of being labeled an 'anti-Semite'. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he's a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what's urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

    Yeah, I lost much my my respect for Derb when he referred to Sysan Sonntag as a “white ethnomasochist.”

    Pure cowardice.

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  51. @Lot
    I do not see anything uniquely or especially Jewish about either the far-left anti-white people or elitist anti-Trump Republicans, or all that much similar to each other.

    There is certainly a Jewish flavor of white ethnomasochism, and it is as greatly distasteful as the English, Swedish or Popish varieties.

    Regarding the global elite, it seems much more at its base Anglo-Saxon and more broadly Western European, and the Jews in it tend to be miscegenated (mostly with NW Europeans, increasingly with NE Asians) and ultra-assimilated. Bret Stephens wasn't engaging in intensive Torah study at Middlesex boarding school, the University of Chicago, and the London School of Economics.

    The stated hypothesis is that Jewish fear of peasant violence is driving an important share of the NeverTrump sentiment. How does the evidence you provide refute the hypothesis?

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  52. @Lot
    I do not see anything uniquely or especially Jewish about either the far-left anti-white people or elitist anti-Trump Republicans, or all that much similar to each other.

    There is certainly a Jewish flavor of white ethnomasochism, and it is as greatly distasteful as the English, Swedish or Popish varieties.

    Regarding the global elite, it seems much more at its base Anglo-Saxon and more broadly Western European, and the Jews in it tend to be miscegenated (mostly with NW Europeans, increasingly with NE Asians) and ultra-assimilated. Bret Stephens wasn't engaging in intensive Torah study at Middlesex boarding school, the University of Chicago, and the London School of Economics.

    Lot, maybe you can explain to this poor, dumb Gentile why only Jews seem to be qualified to run the USA’s finances, by having control over the US Treasury and the potent FED?

    Current US Treasury Secretary is Jacob Lew, his second is Sarah Bloom. Adam Gzubin is the head of the department flinging the economic sanctions against ME nations and Russia.
    Past Treasury heads, have been Tim Geithner; Larry Summers and Robert Rubin-who helped Clinton make it easier for Wall Street casinos to steal our money–all Jews and just for pointing out the truth, I’m guilty of anti-Semitism.
    The only Gentile recently was Hank Paulson, who was needed during the Great Depression of 2008 to reassure Americans that there is nothing wrong, go back to sleep.

    The FED is run by Janet Yellen, whose second in command, Stanley Fisher, is a dual-citizen, who was the past head of an Israel bank. Before Yellen it was ‘Shalom’ Bernanke, and before him it was Alan Greenspan.

    But don’t even think or wonder why no Gentile’s are appointed to these crucial positions, because that’s anti-Semitism and you’ll be hounded until you no longer exist in the cyber world.

    I could go into who controls the majority of the thoroughly rotten and corrupt US media, but let’s stick with the FED and Treasury.

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    Apparently, Timothy Geithner was half-German and Half English and a Christian to boot. You'll have to cross him off your list.
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    I could go into who controls the majority of the thoroughly rotten and corrupt US media, but let’s stick with the FED and Treasury.
     
    If Garland is confirmed as Supreme Court justice, there will be four Jews on the Supreme Court. Four of nine. 44% of the nation's highest court would be Jewish. Gosh, can't represent the people of the USA much more effectively than THAT!
  53. @Alec Leamas
    The defensive posture of Jews is, at this point, indistinguishable from bald aggression. If there ever was a meaningful distinction it has surely been lost.

    The cycle is so predictable and inevitable as to be almost purposeful. Jews are hostile to the host society purportedly as a prophylactic measure. The host society has its fill of Jews and their hostility and as a consequence has them out one way or the other. The remnant moves on to a new host and repeats the process.

    At a certain point it becomes evident that the defensive rationale is cover for a sense of Jewish supremacy. It is right that Jews should rule the host by their wits and turn it into a multicult bazaar in which they can become wealthy hawking their wares even if the host population would find it confounding and alienating. To oppose the project or identify it as essentially Jewish is tantamount to organizing a pogrom.

    Jews having been given such a free reign in the West it is punishable as a crime to state what I have just written in some jurisdictions - is this state of affairs truly a defensive measure? Is it not clear that this is aggression disguised as defense, vast power disguised as weakness?

    Excellent comment.

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  54. @biz
    Dumb. Your own link largely opposes your claim (see the section on Y chromosomes), and the scientific consensus on genetic and historical evidence is entirely against you. Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible, and also have admixture from other regions (mostly Italy in the case of Ashkenazi Jews). This is settled science, and you are either ignorant of it or (more likely) intentionally lying.

    Bullshit, hasbara boy. The Jews are like the modern “Assyrians” – the residue of a religious community pretending to be an ethnic group, and dressing themselves up in stolen feathers. Your interlocutor is entirely right about the evidence, and you are woefully wrong.

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    You again? No less than Greg Cochrane himself said you were bullshitting in the other thread. You cling to something that has definitvely been proven false by Y-chromosomal evidence for some unknown reason. There must be something really pathetic in your life that you are so invested in believing something that has been demonstrated to be false. Oh well, I suppose I should follow Sam Harris' advice and feel sorry for you - after all you didn't choose your brain or whatever chemical imbalance and/or previous states that led to this.
  55. @JohnnyD
    Excellent analysis, Derb!
    Growing up in a Jewish family, I was conditioned to think about pogroms and the Holocaust, whenever the issue of immigration came up. However, I was cured of this neurosis by being exposed to extreme diversity (i.e. getting the feeling that your hometown and school district are no longer part of America). Stephen Miller, a Jewish aide to Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump, seems to have had a similar "conversion" experience when he was growing up in Southern California. (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/stephen-miller-donald-trump-2016-policy-adviser-jeff-sessions-213992).

    that is the problem. most white Christian Americans do not want the diversity which you need to get over your neurosis….

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  56. @biz
    Dumb. Your own link largely opposes your claim (see the section on Y chromosomes), and the scientific consensus on genetic and historical evidence is entirely against you. Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible, and also have admixture from other regions (mostly Italy in the case of Ashkenazi Jews). This is settled science, and you are either ignorant of it or (more likely) intentionally lying.

    “Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible”: as I understand it, Ashkenazis are about 50% descended from people of the Near East, who may or may not have been “Jews of the Bible”, but it would be unsurprising if they were. Which “Jews of the Bible” is another question: to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on? In fact, is there any sense in asking about the relationship between real, historical people, and people who occur in myths?

    Meantime, the current Palestinians are (wild guess) maybe 70% descended from the “Jews of the Bible” of Jesus’s time. If anyone has any facts, rather than a wild guess, I’d be interested to hear them.

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    You could check haplotypes & compare Jews (Ashenazim) with similar ethnic groups.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_ethnic_group
    , @Astraea Shaw
    Read The Bible Unearthed. by the great Jewish archaeologist Israel Finkelstein then look for the Youtube video called "The Walls Come Tumblin' Down."

    That video was made by John McCarthy the journalist who was held hostage by young Muslim militants in Beirut in the nineties, for five tears in solitary confinement.

    He had nothing to do all day but read the Bible which was allowed him.

    After being released he decided to go to "the Holy Land" to look into things for himself.

    It is a fascinating series of videos.

    Read also Christ in Egypt by DM Murdock.

    , @nsa
    The stupidity here is amazing. Google up Eran Elhaik....an Israeli geneticist who specializes in racial DNA research. His DNA studies indicate that 95% of the population of Israel are NOT related by blood to the denizens of the old testament i.e. the zio biblical racial stuff is all self-serving crap. He has verified the Khazarian hypothesis....modern jooies are mostly descended from a tribe of caucasus perps who were evicted .....surprise, surprise.....for chronic criminality and scheming. Opening levant tombs for DNA testing reveals present day "palestinians" are the most closely related genetically to the old testament jooies....having undergone a forced muzzie conversion somewhere in history. The scientific facts are available to anyone interested.......
    , @Lot

    Which “Jews of the Bible” is another question: to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on?
     
    Given that Jews do not evangelize, and are usually even hostile to people who say they want to convert, the odds are pretty high.

    Meantime, the current Palestinians are (wild guess) maybe 70% descended from the “Jews of the Bible” of Jesus’s time. If anyone has any facts, rather than a wild guess, I’d be interested to hear them.
     
    Much lower. Modern Israel suffered from multiple depopulating wars during the long era was contested between the remnants of Alexander's army, during the rebellious years in the Roman Empire, again with the Islamic conquest and Crusades.

    Because it is a fertile coastal area with good weather, and was safe from the conflicts elsewhere in the Empire, a large portion of the Muslims in modern Israel were immigrants who came there in the 19th Century from other parts of the Ottoman Empire.

    Probably the people in the middle east besides actual Jews who are closest to the Jews of the latter parts of the Bible are the Druze and Lebanese and Syrian Christians.
    , @biz
    Current "Palestinians" aka the run-of-the-mill Arabs who adopted the name Palestinians in the 1970s, are a result of a heavy influx of people from the Arabian peninsula, mixed with probably a vestigial line that was present when the Arabs invaded. When they think Westerners aren't listening Palestinians actually wax poetic about their ancestors who invaded. Palestinian Prime Minister Saeb Erakat was bragging about his family's origins in Saudi Arabia - there is a region or town they are named after - a while back.
  57. @jake
    Derb is right about Cossacks. That subset of Jews fears Coassacks. To them,Nazis are very much Cossacks of the West. If you doubt that, pay attention to all the Jews, Neocon and Leftist, who make Putin into the worst thing possible. Putin they see as reviving the 'Cossacks.' That subset of Jews will always hate Russia the most - unless Russia is ruled by Jews or Marxists.

    That subset of Jews will always hate Russia the most – unless Russia is ruled by Jews or Marxists.

    Once upon a time, there was an Austrian corporal who regarded this as a distinction without a difference.

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  58. @Mark Green
    Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb's terrified of being labeled an 'anti-Semite'. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he's a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what's urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

    I think that what we see in this debate from the Jewish panelists is not ATAVISM but EMANCIPATION. They apparently feel emboldened enough to lecture Christians in the most Christian country on the planet on why their religion is wrong.

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    They said nothing that can get them in trouble. The idea that Jews are oriented to "right and wrong" is not new at all, and of course people will disagree and say "no that's wrong not right", just normal free speech.

    I found Derbyshire a lot more direct than the I2 debaters anyway, who were very elliptical as if they've traversed this ground a million times and know how to avoid saying everything that needs not-saying.
  59. There is no militant Nativism to speak of in America; but there is militant Alienism, and it has power not only in the law but in the current culture propagated by the media and the academy. The very fact that Alienism was nameless until I came along, while there were a dozen words, all invidious, for Nativist attitudes, shows how thoroughly entrenched the Alienist perspective is.

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  60. @Alec Leamas
    I think this Chesterton quote is apt:

    “But let there be one single-clause bill; one simple and sweeping law about Jews, and no other. Be it enacted, by the King’s Most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and the Commons in Parliament assembled, that every Jew must be dressed like an Arab. Let him sit on the Woolsack, but let him sit there dressed as an Arab. Let him preach in St. Paul’s Cathedral, but let him preach there dressed as an Arab. It is not my point at present to dwell on the pleasing if flippant fancy of how much this would transform the political scene; of the dapper figure of Sir Herbert Samuel swathed as a Bedouin, or Sir Alfred Mond gaining a yet greater grandeur from the gorgeous and trailing robes of the East. If my image is quaint my intention is quite serious; and the point of it is not personal to any particular Jew. The point applies to any Jew, and to our own recovery of healthier relations with him. The point is that we should know where we are; and he would know where he is, which is in a foreign land.”
     
    I have half a mind to drop this gem into the discussion at your link.

    LOL! Sadly I think comments are now closed on that article, but you should definitely look out for that individual on other Disqus threads and drop that one on him. I’d say his most likely response will be to personally abuse you as a revolting anti-Semite, explain to you that you are that way because you’ve had no achievements in life, and try to get your comment censored and you banned from posting at whatever publication it is posted on. If you persist, he’ll try to get you prosecuted, if he thinks you are in one of the countries that has already abandoned free political speech for “hate speech” laws.

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  61. @dearieme
    "Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible": as I understand it, Ashkenazis are about 50% descended from people of the Near East, who may or may not have been "Jews of the Bible", but it would be unsurprising if they were. Which "Jews of the Bible" is another question: to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on? In fact, is there any sense in asking about the relationship between real, historical people, and people who occur in myths?

    Meantime, the current Palestinians are (wild guess) maybe 70% descended from the "Jews of the Bible" of Jesus's time. If anyone has any facts, rather than a wild guess, I'd be interested to hear them.

    You could check haplotypes & compare Jews (Ashenazim) with similar ethnic groups.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_ethnic_group

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  62. The truth is that the Jews are always plotting against the People and with the “Elites”, so, naturally they are always paranoid. They call this “anti-semitism.” They just do not understand anything about what is right or what is wrong, or what is good or what is bad, or what is true and what is false!

    Besides, “anti-semitism” is a nonsense term. The Palestinians are Semitic – most Jews who call themselves Jews are NOT Semitic.

    There is a new and wonderful book by Gerard Menuhin called “Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil.” Read it and understand.

    Gerard Menuhin is the son of the great violinist Yehudi Menuhin. (Yehudi means “Jew.”)

    Poor Jews really need to understand that their paranoia is something they themselves create. They aretaught from birth that all mankind hates them! They are taught this by their “leaders” (those sinister rabbis and the descendants of those sinister Levites)
    so that they are controlled and USED for the sinister ends of those “leaders”.

    No really intelligent man or woman would allow this to be done to them. The genuinely intelligent person born into Judaism (a materialistic cult and nothing more) escapes from this horrible inhuman cult.

    Judaism is not a religion at all. Only a fool could believe that God “chooses”! God cannot choose! God is infinite compassion. How can Infinite Compassion choose???

    They are silly people. And any parent who could indoctrinate their own innocent child to believe that all of mankind hates them is simply a most cruel and stupid person. It is nothing but psychological child abuse of the most terrible cruelty.

    What kind of a parent wants their child to feel afraid of all of mankind? It is absolutely unnatural. NO other people do this. ALL parents want their children to be happy and confident and at ease with the World – but not the Jews!

    And they blame ALL the rest of mankind!

    Not intelligent!

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  63. @Alec Leamas

    No, I think Derb has it right; it is in fact a small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome. Looked at the Jewish assimilation rates lately?
     
    I think you're conflating intermarriage with assimilation. Jews have always intermarried in differing degrees, and DNA analysis proposes that Ashkenazi Jews collected gentile wives from the Italian peninsula on their way to disbursing across Europe.

    Further, who is assimilating into whom? Are Jews singing Dixie and attending NASCAR races? Are they practicing Christianity and joining the armed forces of the United States in large numbers? The elite New Class culture is an essentially Jewish creation. Critique, nihilism, subversion and chauvinism draped in the mantle of virtue. Sneer at your supposed cultural inferiors. Mock the faith and values of their fathers. Patriotism is a punchline, replaced by urban cosmopolitanism.

    Are you singing Dixie and attending Nassacre on a regular basis? Are those the pinnacle of American cultural markers?

    I’d say football, apple pie, thanksgiving, love for the works of Hemmingway, Faulkner, Melville , Lee are more American. And plenty of Jews do that. In fact I’d speculate without direct evidence that proportionally similar to the general population.

    I am familiar with the genetic studies. In fact there are some whole genome studies which found startling results suggesting wider admixture and Jewish dropout from identification with the faith. It is extremely expensive to remain a Jew [a direct corollary being remaining members are generally wealthier]. Google helps.

    [Critique, nihilism, subversion and chauvinism draped in the mantle of virtue. Sneer at your supposed cultural inferiors]

    Yes, and you have observed all this yourself among the many Jews you call friends and neighbours, am I right? It’s unmitigated nonsense. Spare me the ‘patriotic’ drumbeat please and recount your experience, even a few, where you’ve felt a Jewish person pulling cultural rank over you, and I will show you an idiot. Most likely you don’t have any.

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    Are you singing Dixie and attending Nassacre on a regular basis? Are those the pinnacle of American cultural markers?
     
    Forgive the limits of my goyishe kopf but these are the shibboleths of the American culture despised by Jews. Good, bad or indifferent they among other things are part of the dominant culture which alleged to be "assimilating" Jews should be joining in rather than the other way round. That's the point - you're not assimilating when you make the dominant culture more palatable to you and more like your own. You're asserting supremacy.

    I’d say football, apple pie, thanksgiving, love for the works of Hemmingway, Faulkner, Melville , Lee are more American. And plenty of Jews do that. In fact I’d speculate without direct evidence that proportionally similar to the general population.
     
    Right! Somebody has to own the teams! Wakka Wakka:

    http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/28/gene-simmons-jews-football-own-teams-la-kiss/

    Who else would tell us that Ahab is a repressed homosexual and the white wale a giant phallus? That's appreciation if I ever heard it!

    It is extremely expensive to remain a Jew [a direct corollary being remaining members are generally wealthier].
     
    You're going to have to explain why and how one's ethnicity and religion could be unilaterally expunged by an insufficient income.

    Yes, and you have observed all this yourself among the many Jews you call friends and neighbours, am I right? It’s unmitigated nonsense. Spare me the ‘patriotic’ drumbeat please and recount your experience, even a few, where you’ve felt a Jewish person pulling cultural rank over you, and I will show you an idiot. Most likely you don’t have any.
     
    I could start with the childhood experiences of being one of a handful of gentiles at a Jewish summer camp for several years seriatim. It doesn't matter though since no amount of experience and no number of similar experiences to my own would be sufficient for you. I could never satisfy your challenge since it is by design intended not to be satisfied. From childhood Jews are imbued with ethnic and moral chauvinism and among themselves have no compunction about expressing it.
  64. Another book to remember is The Bible Unearthed by Israel Finkelstein.

    There is no evidence of any presence of Hebrew or Jewish on what they presently call “Israel”, nor any evidence of an exodus from Egypt – actually no evidenceof any Hebrew or Jewish presence in Egypt.

    The psalms are actually Egyptian psalms and Christianity originated in Egypt. Jesus Christ was not a Jew!

    The Jews originated in Yemen and the South of what is presently Saudi Arabia.

    Look into Wayne Madsen’s article called “The Most Whispered Secret in the Middle East.”
    and read “Egypt Knew No Pharaohs Or Israelites.” by Ashraf Ezzat.

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  65. @dearieme
    "Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible": as I understand it, Ashkenazis are about 50% descended from people of the Near East, who may or may not have been "Jews of the Bible", but it would be unsurprising if they were. Which "Jews of the Bible" is another question: to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on? In fact, is there any sense in asking about the relationship between real, historical people, and people who occur in myths?

    Meantime, the current Palestinians are (wild guess) maybe 70% descended from the "Jews of the Bible" of Jesus's time. If anyone has any facts, rather than a wild guess, I'd be interested to hear them.

    Read The Bible Unearthed. by the great Jewish archaeologist Israel Finkelstein then look for the Youtube video called “The Walls Come Tumblin’ Down.”

    That video was made by John McCarthy the journalist who was held hostage by young Muslim militants in Beirut in the nineties, for five tears in solitary confinement.

    He had nothing to do all day but read the Bible which was allowed him.

    After being released he decided to go to “the Holy Land” to look into things for himself.

    It is a fascinating series of videos.

    Read also Christ in Egypt by DM Murdock.

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  66. Do you guys sincerely believe in all this Jewish conspiracy stuff ? In a Manichaean manner, Jews playing the role of Ahriman ? I mean- really, really believe ?

    I have the Eiffel tower to sell you …

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    Obviously can't speak for those who believe in an actual overarching jewish conspiracy, but the evidence for disproportionate jewish influence in media and politics is clearly evident to anyone who experiences censorship and even prosecution for expressing opinions that are "anti-Semitic". Good luck trying to generate such harassment for anybody expressing equivalently anti-white opinions.

    Here's one of my own bits of anecdotal evidence:

    "And whilst we're on the subject of deletions...I'm going for the big one, ie, the ultimate solution to the Randal problem. I've already been in touch with one of Disqus' two founders in San Francisco, and I'll be furnishing him with details of the police investigation into your hate-speech. He's got a Jewish wife and many of his investors (who will be contacted if necessary) are Jewish too. Those Jews eh?"

    As it happens he hasn't succeeded with that particular piece of harassment yet, although he succeeded in getting me banned from The National Interest and from Spectator Blogs using the same special connection. Clearly there are some jewish people for whom commitment to freedom of speech is more genuine than for others (such as our host here, I assume).

    Shall I try writing to the various white non-Jewish owners and managers of some major publications asking them to ban people who've been making anti-white comments? How far do you think I'd get?
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    Do you guys sincerely believe in all this Jewish conspiracy stuff ?
     
    Conspiracy in a global sense? Oh, hell no. Jews work together to dominate the Gentiles, then quarrel among themselves over the spoils. It has components of "conspiracy", but mostly it's a deliberate plan, organization, and action to achieve dominance, wealth and power.

    Do ONLY Jews do this? Of course not -- history is full of such phenomena. However, at this point in time, Jews are the ascendant destroyers of American democracy. Whether American democracy is worth saving just by itself, I wouldn't be inclined to believe particularly. But, I also don't want myself and my children, and my children's children, enslaved. Call me idealistic.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Do we believe in your comic-book-like straw-man characterization of rather complicated social inter-relationships that we have actually observed in the world at large? No.

    Now I have a question for you: Have you stopped beating your wife?
    , @guest
    It's not a conspiracy. Problem solved for you.
  67. @Randal

    However, I’ve turned against the word “philosemite,” for reasons I’ve explained elsewhere. Basically, it’s patronizing. If pressed on the issue, I call myself an anti-anti-Semite. I cherish my Jewish friends, and I have publicly—and again, I think, more than once—expressed gratitude in print for the positive contribution Jews have made to our civilization, way out of proportion to their numbers.
     
    As an English/British nativist I regard my country as a basically Christian one (yes, I know that's old fashioned, and I know there was a time when my country was not Christian). I take the view that jewish influence is as alien as muslim, Buddhist and all the other non-Christian foreign influences that exist in my country. I do not, of course, take the view that all those foreign influences are equally benign or equally malign.

    I have been told by an obsessive jewish anti-antisemite snitch and witch-finder that my stating this was "probably the most disgustingly antisemitic comment I have ever seen on any forum". This from a man who openly boasted about his role in arranging for actual prosecutions of several anti-Semitic "hate speechers" (and gloated extensively about the suffering he had been able to vicariously inflict upon his victims by using these laws against them).

    I grew up strongly pro-Israel and in a household which could probably be classed as philo-semitic. It was only after I watched Israel becoming increasingly the cause of trouble in the ME once its military security had been assured, in the 1980s and 1990s, and I began to be harassed by jewish zealots and partisans for criticism of Israel, that it even occurred to me to regard jews and jewishness as having any particular negative aspects, in the way I have always viewed islam. Further movement in that direction resulted from recognising that jewish influence in my own country's politics (often via US media and politics) was frequently massively harmful, in advocating for wars of aggression and interventionism, aligning us with Israel, and pushing aggressively globalist, anti-white, and socially liberal agendas.

    The final seal on that journey was set in place by the direct jewish harassment I have received in recent years merely for expressing opinions such as those above. When someone threatens to have me prosecuted for expressing my opinions, I take it personally

    Nowadays I tend to regard jewish influence as broadly negative, as I long have regarded muslim influence. Such a judgement is, of course, only ever a generalisation.

    I clicked on the DT comment link you provided, great reading! I have to ask, since “Robberdog” was condemning your attempts to virally infect proper discourse with nativist argument; did you receive a great deal of pushback from other commenters as well? It would follow that a multitude of other commenters would also recognize your insidious efforts to sabotage the customer base of the magazine.

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    I'm used to pushback from all the special interest groups I annoy by skewering their sacred cows. The amount depends upon the readership of the publication in question, generally. But robbersdog's the first to ever credibly threaten prosecution (in fairness to others, these anti-dissent laws are only nowadays starting to be properly enforced), and the only one to actually succeed in getting me banned, from two publications (The National Interest and the Spectator blogs), though many have reported me for, variously, "homophobic", "racist", "sexist" and other comments advocating traditionalist conservative opinions. Clearly, as well as good timing, jewish would-be censors benefit from institutional and political connections at the highest levels, perhaps more so than the run of the mill special interest identity groups.

    Mind you I was banned sharpish from the Guardian (many years ago), but I think that was the management's decision without any special pleading needed. I don't mind that, as I'd expect openly leftist publications to frown on traditionalist opinions. It's the ones who pretend to be "conservative" that annoy me, by their dishonesty.
  68. @Bardon Kaldian
    Do you guys sincerely believe in all this Jewish conspiracy stuff ? In a Manichaean manner, Jews playing the role of Ahriman ? I mean- really, really believe ?

    I have the Eiffel tower to sell you ...

    Obviously can’t speak for those who believe in an actual overarching jewish conspiracy, but the evidence for disproportionate jewish influence in media and politics is clearly evident to anyone who experiences censorship and even prosecution for expressing opinions that are “anti-Semitic”. Good luck trying to generate such harassment for anybody expressing equivalently anti-white opinions.

    Here’s one of my own bits of anecdotal evidence:

    And whilst we’re on the subject of deletions…I’m going for the big one, ie, the ultimate solution to the Randal problem. I’ve already been in touch with one of Disqus’ two founders in San Francisco, and I’ll be furnishing him with details of the police investigation into your hate-speech. He’s got a Jewish wife and many of his investors (who will be contacted if necessary) are Jewish too. Those Jews eh?

    As it happens he hasn’t succeeded with that particular piece of harassment yet, although he succeeded in getting me banned from The National Interest and from Spectator Blogs using the same special connection. Clearly there are some jewish people for whom commitment to freedom of speech is more genuine than for others (such as our host here, I assume).

    Shall I try writing to the various white non-Jewish owners and managers of some major publications asking them to ban people who’ve been making anti-white comments? How far do you think I’d get?

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    Let's see: Jews (or Organized Jewry) in the US have a disproportionate amount of power in financial circles & media (and a few other areas, but that is beside the point). Well- who zombified you guys ? Who prevented you from having equal or greater media clout ? Is Fox News, the most influential newsmedia, actually "Jewish" ?

    In the US, Jews are not dominant in banking- overrepresented yes, but not dominant; nor are they much present in other "moneyed" fields like oil & gas or military-industrial complex. Most big US banks don't have a strong Jewish influence; to speak of Jews among Seven sisters or Lockheed Martin is outright silly.

    Also, media in most European countries (Germany, UK, France, Italy, Denmark, Spain,..) & Russia is in the hands of national, non-Jewish elites. And they- Russia apart- all spout the same liberal nonsense.

    Jews or no Jews, this is a phase of European & Europe-derived civilization with its own dynamics, causes & effects. Jewry's influence is not negligible, but also- far from crucial. The weakness lies elsewhere.

    http://www.amren.com/features/2013/08/why-are-europeans-more-racially-aware/

    http://www.amren.com/features/2012/07/pathological-altruism/
  69. @dearieme
    "Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible": as I understand it, Ashkenazis are about 50% descended from people of the Near East, who may or may not have been "Jews of the Bible", but it would be unsurprising if they were. Which "Jews of the Bible" is another question: to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on? In fact, is there any sense in asking about the relationship between real, historical people, and people who occur in myths?

    Meantime, the current Palestinians are (wild guess) maybe 70% descended from the "Jews of the Bible" of Jesus's time. If anyone has any facts, rather than a wild guess, I'd be interested to hear them.

    The stupidity here is amazing. Google up Eran Elhaik….an Israeli geneticist who specializes in racial DNA research. His DNA studies indicate that 95% of the population of Israel are NOT related by blood to the denizens of the old testament i.e. the zio biblical racial stuff is all self-serving crap. He has verified the Khazarian hypothesis….modern jooies are mostly descended from a tribe of caucasus perps who were evicted …..surprise, surprise…..for chronic criminality and scheming. Opening levant tombs for DNA testing reveals present day “palestinians” are the most closely related genetically to the old testament jooies….having undergone a forced muzzie conversion somewhere in history. The scientific facts are available to anyone interested…….

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  70. @Greg Bacon
    Lot, maybe you can explain to this poor, dumb Gentile why only Jews seem to be qualified to run the USA's finances, by having control over the US Treasury and the potent FED?

    Current US Treasury Secretary is Jacob Lew, his second is Sarah Bloom. Adam Gzubin is the head of the department flinging the economic sanctions against ME nations and Russia.
    Past Treasury heads, have been Tim Geithner; Larry Summers and Robert Rubin-who helped Clinton make it easier for Wall Street casinos to steal our money–all Jews and just for pointing out the truth, I'm guilty of anti-Semitism.
    The only Gentile recently was Hank Paulson, who was needed during the Great Depression of 2008 to reassure Americans that there is nothing wrong, go back to sleep.

    The FED is run by Janet Yellen, whose second in command, Stanley Fisher, is a dual-citizen, who was the past head of an Israel bank. Before Yellen it was 'Shalom' Bernanke, and before him it was Alan Greenspan.

    But don’t even think or wonder why no Gentile’s are appointed to these crucial positions, because that’s anti-Semitism and you’ll be hounded until you no longer exist in the cyber world.

    I could go into who controls the majority of the thoroughly rotten and corrupt US media, but let's stick with the FED and Treasury.

    Apparently, Timothy Geithner was half-German and Half English and a Christian to boot. You’ll have to cross him off your list.

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    If that is true about Geithner, then he can be relegated to the rank of 'Shabbos Goy,' doing work for his Israeli buddies, like standing by and twiddling his thumbs when Bernie Madoff looted billions from investors.
    , @old okie
    I am gonna have to say he is at least jew adjacent.. Half German? hmmm. strike one. Married to Carole Sonnenfield a professor of Psych who writes novels about adolescent grief? strike two. A son named Benjamin? strike three you're out.
  71. I was laying in bed watching TV and flipping channels when I saw CNN’s Jake Tapper sitting in for Charlie Rose. Curious I left it there and Jake was talking with some State Department official about Syria. Tapper brought up Trump’s son’s comment ‘Would you eat from a bowl of Skittles if you knew three of them had been poisoned’ in reference to bringing Syrian refugees to the US. The State Department official squirmed as he had no reasonable reply to Tapper. He switched to his ( Jewish) heritage and filibustered with an cartoonish tale about his Bialystok born step father. Auschwitz,Maidenek, Treblinka. He had been in all of them ( but survived, he always survived though no one else from his school did). On a ‘death march’ in 1945 he runs away and again survives and hides in the woods until he hears the rumble of machinery. Were the Nazis sending Panzers to look for the escaped Jew? No, by the grace of God, instead of the hated swastika there was a white star on the tank. The invincible Jew runs out of the woods waving with joy and, instead of a burst of machinegun fire from the American tank, the hatch pops open and a negro tank commander appears!

    The story had all the authenticity of a fairy tale and yet here was a senior State Department official reciting ( probably for the 100th time) it as if it was the truth.

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  72. @Neil Templeton
    I clicked on the DT comment link you provided, great reading! I have to ask, since "Robberdog" was condemning your attempts to virally infect proper discourse with nativist argument; did you receive a great deal of pushback from other commenters as well? It would follow that a multitude of other commenters would also recognize your insidious efforts to sabotage the customer base of the magazine.

    I’m used to pushback from all the special interest groups I annoy by skewering their sacred cows. The amount depends upon the readership of the publication in question, generally. But robbersdog’s the first to ever credibly threaten prosecution (in fairness to others, these anti-dissent laws are only nowadays starting to be properly enforced), and the only one to actually succeed in getting me banned, from two publications (The National Interest and the Spectator blogs), though many have reported me for, variously, “homophobic”, “racist”, “sexist” and other comments advocating traditionalist conservative opinions. Clearly, as well as good timing, jewish would-be censors benefit from institutional and political connections at the highest levels, perhaps more so than the run of the mill special interest identity groups.

    Mind you I was banned sharpish from the Guardian (many years ago), but I think that was the management’s decision without any special pleading needed. I don’t mind that, as I’d expect openly leftist publications to frown on traditionalist opinions. It’s the ones who pretend to be “conservative” that annoy me, by their dishonesty.

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    Thanks for the response. I didn't realize that opinions were legally actionable in the UK.
  73. @Sam Shama
    Are you singing Dixie and attending Nassacre on a regular basis? Are those the pinnacle of American cultural markers?

    I'd say football, apple pie, thanksgiving, love for the works of Hemmingway, Faulkner, Melville , Lee are more American. And plenty of Jews do that. In fact I'd speculate without direct evidence that proportionally similar to the general population.

    I am familiar with the genetic studies. In fact there are some whole genome studies which found startling results suggesting wider admixture and Jewish dropout from identification with the faith. It is extremely expensive to remain a Jew [a direct corollary being remaining members are generally wealthier]. Google helps.

    [Critique, nihilism, subversion and chauvinism draped in the mantle of virtue. Sneer at your supposed cultural inferiors]

    Yes, and you have observed all this yourself among the many Jews you call friends and neighbours, am I right? It's unmitigated nonsense. Spare me the 'patriotic' drumbeat please and recount your experience, even a few, where you've felt a Jewish person pulling cultural rank over you, and I will show you an idiot. Most likely you don't have any.

    Are you singing Dixie and attending Nassacre on a regular basis? Are those the pinnacle of American cultural markers?

    Forgive the limits of my goyishe kopf but these are the shibboleths of the American culture despised by Jews. Good, bad or indifferent they among other things are part of the dominant culture which alleged to be “assimilating” Jews should be joining in rather than the other way round. That’s the point – you’re not assimilating when you make the dominant culture more palatable to you and more like your own. You’re asserting supremacy.

    I’d say football, apple pie, thanksgiving, love for the works of Hemmingway, Faulkner, Melville , Lee are more American. And plenty of Jews do that. In fact I’d speculate without direct evidence that proportionally similar to the general population.

    Right! Somebody has to own the teams! Wakka Wakka:

    http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/28/gene-simmons-jews-football-own-teams-la-kiss/

    Who else would tell us that Ahab is a repressed homosexual and the white wale a giant phallus? That’s appreciation if I ever heard it!

    It is extremely expensive to remain a Jew [a direct corollary being remaining members are generally wealthier].

    You’re going to have to explain why and how one’s ethnicity and religion could be unilaterally expunged by an insufficient income.

    Yes, and you have observed all this yourself among the many Jews you call friends and neighbours, am I right? It’s unmitigated nonsense. Spare me the ‘patriotic’ drumbeat please and recount your experience, even a few, where you’ve felt a Jewish person pulling cultural rank over you, and I will show you an idiot. Most likely you don’t have any.

    I could start with the childhood experiences of being one of a handful of gentiles at a Jewish summer camp for several years seriatim. It doesn’t matter though since no amount of experience and no number of similar experiences to my own would be sufficient for you. I could never satisfy your challenge since it is by design intended not to be satisfied. From childhood Jews are imbued with ethnic and moral chauvinism and among themselves have no compunction about expressing it.

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    Forgive the limits of my goyishe kopf but these are the shibboleths of the American culture despised by Jews.
     
    Your kopf, goyische or otherwise [reason for the distinction unclear] is good enough for me, even as you leapt to a conclusion - from the proclivities of one [this commentor] - regarding the apparent preferences of the lot. Have you proof that jews "despise" Nascar? [I don't especially like it]. Are you saying e.g., it is compulsory that I like the Kardashians - no doubt the doyennes for modern American culture - to establish my assimilation? No thank you; I shall stick to Harper Lee and Caroline in the Prairies.

    Right! Somebody has to own the teams! Wakka Wakka:

    Who else would tell us that Ahab is a repressed homosexual and the white wale a giant phallus? That’s appreciation if I ever heard it!
     

    Yes somebody does have to own them, don't they? And the rest of us get to watch the games. Is there a law which prevents one from owning a team? Oh wait, I forget; jews are getting the stuff printed for them by the Fed!

    About Ahab's homo inclinations and the white phallus, you are the chap who just reminded me of Henry Murray's wrong-headed assertion re: Melville's homosexual inclinations. Nonsense. Melville was a wordsmith, rhyming genius and poet, in the tradition of Shakespeare and Milton.

    You’re going to have to explain why and how one’s ethnicity and religion could be unilaterally expunged by an insufficient income.
     

    There was this socio-genetic study [featured in the NY Times about 5 years back] which inter alia, identified a major dynamic [both historical and global] where Jews who could not maintain the expenses of remaining Jewish [large synagogue dues, Hebrew school fees, etc] simply turned to Christianity or Islam. This has lead to a significantly self-selecting residual population which is somewhat stable in size, wealth, and education. That is about the long and short of it.

    I could start with the childhood experiences of being one of a handful of gentiles at a Jewish summer camp for several years seriatim. It doesn’t matter though since no amount of experience and no number of similar experiences to my own would be sufficient for you.
     
    Well I feel embarrassed such was your experience and can certainly believe it. Can you though, genuinely claim this experience to be out of norm, had you instead, for argument's sake, attended a summer camp for Mormons? Or Japanese?

    From childhood Jews are imbued with ethnic and moral chauvinism and among themselves have no compunction about expressing it.
     

    There may be a grain of truth to this, yet I doubt it is any more disagreeable than ordinary group pride expressed by any given ethnicity [French? Chinese? .....]
  74. well, derp, has jewish friends. isn’t that special. and here, i thought he hated anybody not exactly like him.
    but, does derp apologize to blacks in the preface before he writes how stupid & inferior they are?
    curious.
    and curiouser still is how he developed his bigotry? were his parents racist & bigots? did a nigga steal his lunch money? is he a paranoid? does derp hide under his bed during thunderstorms? does he have deep-seated feelings of inferiority?
    i do feel sorry for his children, though. like father like son, and all that.
    alas, the world is filled with the closed-minded. no new information gets through. belief and opinion established in childhood is never reexamined. there is no growth, so no maturity.
    all us europeeps most likely have 1-4 % neanderthal dna.
    i suspect derp has a bit more.

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    Based on his oeuvre over the past 17 years or so, and his written reflections on his youth, I would say that whether the information is right or wrong, most of Derb's racialism is in fact the product of new information absorbed in his adult life, including the last 15 years.

    Why assume that his current attitude reflects 'belief and opinion established in childhood'? That would seem rather unlikely. Most children are relatively tolerant. It takes years of experience and observation to make a man intolerant.

    I for one am orders of magnitude less tolerant than I used to be. Enjoying it immensely.

    30 years of progressive cant, including since the 1990s a full-on denigration of a liberal order of sovereign, democratic states under constitutional government and based on citizenship and individual rights, in favour of PC, "Critical Theory", caste identity and "privilege" warring, and transnationalism, have convinced me that the liberal order I was born into is not tenable, and the opposition neither wants nor will permit it.

    So why should I still stand for it?
  75. @Jason Liu
    Assuming that theory is true, maybe the goyim wouldn't turn on the Jews if the Jews didn't constantly agitate to flood the nation with foreigners and come up with retarded new ways to demonize the domestic population.

    That aside, I'm not sure left wing Jews really believe it's 1881 Russia, or that their Judaic values compel them to be liberals. It's more likely the other way around. They use their past victimhood as a fearmongering tactic, and their religion as moral support for their political views. Deep down, they are first and foremost true believers, worshiping at the altar of Egalitarianism.

    Deep down, they are first and foremost true believers, worshiping at the altar of Egalitarianism.

    No. First and foremost they self-identify as Jews, and as such, as natural rulers of all forms of mud-people, i.e. anyone who is not a Jew. There is no such thing formed in their minds as “egalitarianism” per se. That’s just a deceptive terminology. What is formed is “Babel”, from the Genesis legend with the ominous (and currently accurately descriptive) ending phrase “Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.”

    Jews are neo-nazis. They loot, pillage and burn. They push before them a host of defeated mud-people, with the intent of disrupting the next civilization they intend to pillage and burn.

    This time, it’s the USA. Fasten your seatbelts; it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

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  76. @Bardon Kaldian
    Do you guys sincerely believe in all this Jewish conspiracy stuff ? In a Manichaean manner, Jews playing the role of Ahriman ? I mean- really, really believe ?

    I have the Eiffel tower to sell you ...

    Do you guys sincerely believe in all this Jewish conspiracy stuff ?

    Conspiracy in a global sense? Oh, hell no. Jews work together to dominate the Gentiles, then quarrel among themselves over the spoils. It has components of “conspiracy”, but mostly it’s a deliberate plan, organization, and action to achieve dominance, wealth and power.

    Do ONLY Jews do this? Of course not — history is full of such phenomena. However, at this point in time, Jews are the ascendant destroyers of American democracy. Whether American democracy is worth saving just by itself, I wouldn’t be inclined to believe particularly. But, I also don’t want myself and my children, and my children’s children, enslaved. Call me idealistic.

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  77. @Greg Bacon
    Lot, maybe you can explain to this poor, dumb Gentile why only Jews seem to be qualified to run the USA's finances, by having control over the US Treasury and the potent FED?

    Current US Treasury Secretary is Jacob Lew, his second is Sarah Bloom. Adam Gzubin is the head of the department flinging the economic sanctions against ME nations and Russia.
    Past Treasury heads, have been Tim Geithner; Larry Summers and Robert Rubin-who helped Clinton make it easier for Wall Street casinos to steal our money–all Jews and just for pointing out the truth, I'm guilty of anti-Semitism.
    The only Gentile recently was Hank Paulson, who was needed during the Great Depression of 2008 to reassure Americans that there is nothing wrong, go back to sleep.

    The FED is run by Janet Yellen, whose second in command, Stanley Fisher, is a dual-citizen, who was the past head of an Israel bank. Before Yellen it was 'Shalom' Bernanke, and before him it was Alan Greenspan.

    But don’t even think or wonder why no Gentile’s are appointed to these crucial positions, because that’s anti-Semitism and you’ll be hounded until you no longer exist in the cyber world.

    I could go into who controls the majority of the thoroughly rotten and corrupt US media, but let's stick with the FED and Treasury.

    I could go into who controls the majority of the thoroughly rotten and corrupt US media, but let’s stick with the FED and Treasury.

    If Garland is confirmed as Supreme Court justice, there will be four Jews on the Supreme Court. Four of nine. 44% of the nation’s highest court would be Jewish. Gosh, can’t represent the people of the USA much more effectively than THAT!

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  78. @geokat62

    No, I think Derb has it right; it is in fact a small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome. Looked at the Jewish assimilation rates lately?

    Gilad Atzmon is mad.
     
    Hi, Sam. I have to admit, I really missed exchanging comments with you. During my hiatus, I had the opportunity to read GA's The Wondering Who? Needless to say, it was an interesting read. In Chapter 1, he makes the following observation:

    As far as self-perception is concerned, those who call themselves Jews could be divided into three main categories:

    1. Those who follow Judaism.
    2. Those who regard themselves as human beings that happen to be of Jewish origin.
    3. Those who put their Jewish-ness over and above all of their other traits.
     
    You once informed UR readers that most Jews are Zionists. I guess this means that they fall into Atzmon's 3rd category? If that's true, doesn't that call into question your claim that a "small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome"?

    As for Giraldi,... [AIPAC] has a membership of 100,000. However at time he takes his position to a place where it fails to distinguish cause from effect [who drives U.S. aid to Israel? Think]
     
    I've been thinking, but being a dumb goy, I can't for the life of me figure out "who drives US aid to Israel," except for the Lobby.

    There are many organisations and advocacy groups which boast much larger memberships. Yet we are housed in a majoritarian rule based society, where advocacy remains an important cornerstone.
     
    True. But can these organizations and advocacy groups boast donor names like Saban and Adelson?

    I think your position is flawed where you see the Jewish hand at work, your default factor, behind all perceived wrongdoing.
     
    Not "all," Sam. But I think you know how significant that influence is and the damage it's doing to American interests... just ask Mearsheimer and Walt.

    Hi Geo,
    I missed it as well adelfós, philosophical Greeks being a pain and I being a masochist for ethno-political vernacular! :-)

    As I recall [at least that is my position] I remarked that many jews, especially the ones that contribute to AIPAC are zionists in varying degrees. There are a 100k members, about a 1000 unreasonably wealthy. The most prominent ones like Saban and Adelson are extreme zionists. How does one go about preventing anyone from contributing to their chosen advocacy group? You tell me. If FARA is applicable, so be it. However I don’t see it happening.

    I’d say most American Jews are not preoccupied with Israel but impressions are driven by a vocal minority of busybodies. Silence them, quieten their strident tones using your equal right to voice the contrary, and mission accomplished you shall have.

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    How does one go about preventing anyone from contributing to their chosen advocacy group? You tell me.
     
    I'm glad you asked, Sam. You once admitted that Jews, including yourself, send your monthly cheques, "automaton," to AIPAC.

    As I indicated previously, I just finished reading GA's The Wondering Who? The passage that struck me the most was the tale Atzom recounted about his military service in the summer of 1984, in Lebanon. He visited Ansar, a notorious Israeli internment camp in the south of Lebanon. This experience "changed his life completely":

    I confronted the officer about these horrible concrete dog cubes.

    He was quick to reply: ‘These are our solitary confinement blocks; after two days in one of these, you become a devoted Zionist!’ This was enough for me. I realised that my affair with the Israeli state and with Zionism was over. Yet I still knew very little about Palestine, about the Nakba or even about Judaism and Jewish-ness, for that matter. I only saw then that, as far as I was concerned, Israel was bad news, and I didn’t want to have anything further to do with it. Two weeks later I returned my uniform, grabbed my alto sax, took the bus to Ben-Gurion Airport and left for Europe...
     
    I'm sure you, and most of your co-religionists, are aware of the Ansar internment camp. So to answer your question about "preventing people from contributing to their chosen advocacy group," why would you and other American Jews send in their monthly cheques if they know they are underwriting a regime that treats other human beings in this manner? More specifically, how can you go about your days bragging about eating the finest foods, drinking the finest wines, wearing the finest clothes, while knowing that your monthly cheques are underwriting the death of half a million innocent Iraqi children, the deaths of over a million innocent Muslims in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somolia, etc., executing PNAC's Plan to remake the ME to secure the villa in the jungle... a villa that treats other human beings in such a deplorable manner?

    Here's my simple solution: I no longer think getting AIPAC registered under FARA will do anything. A more feasible solution lies with The Community. If you are ostensibly opposed to all this death and destruction, you and others must convince TC to stop sending their cheques, automaton or not, to AIPAC. If you don't, you and others have to live with the fact that you are responsible, in part, for those horrible concrete dog cubes.
  79. @Alec Leamas
    The defensive posture of Jews is, at this point, indistinguishable from bald aggression. If there ever was a meaningful distinction it has surely been lost.

    The cycle is so predictable and inevitable as to be almost purposeful. Jews are hostile to the host society purportedly as a prophylactic measure. The host society has its fill of Jews and their hostility and as a consequence has them out one way or the other. The remnant moves on to a new host and repeats the process.

    At a certain point it becomes evident that the defensive rationale is cover for a sense of Jewish supremacy. It is right that Jews should rule the host by their wits and turn it into a multicult bazaar in which they can become wealthy hawking their wares even if the host population would find it confounding and alienating. To oppose the project or identify it as essentially Jewish is tantamount to organizing a pogrom.

    Jews having been given such a free reign in the West it is punishable as a crime to state what I have just written in some jurisdictions - is this state of affairs truly a defensive measure? Is it not clear that this is aggression disguised as defense, vast power disguised as weakness?

    Is it not clear that this is aggression disguised as defense, vast power disguised as weakness?

    By way of deception thou shalt do war. This is the motto of the Mossad but could also be the modus operandi of Jews living in the diaspora.

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    > By way of deception thou shalt do war. This is the motto of the Mossad


    and that of the British Special Boat Squadrons is: "not by strength, but by guile"

    Perhaps great minds run in the same direction
  80. @Mark Green
    Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb's terrified of being labeled an 'anti-Semite'. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he's a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what's urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

    “Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb’s terrified of being labeled an ‘anti-Semite’.”

    Then he ought to realize, that just for writing this article, he already will be. Noticing things – letting on that you’ve noticed them – is what gets you in trouble.

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  81. @Bardon Kaldian
    Do you guys sincerely believe in all this Jewish conspiracy stuff ? In a Manichaean manner, Jews playing the role of Ahriman ? I mean- really, really believe ?

    I have the Eiffel tower to sell you ...

    Do we believe in your comic-book-like straw-man characterization of rather complicated social inter-relationships that we have actually observed in the world at large? No.

    Now I have a question for you: Have you stopped beating your wife?

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    To re-post old comments is a sign of laziness. But, what can I say: I'm lazy.

    So, for the umpteenth time.

    The crucial mistake virtually all conspiracy- theories minded people make is that they try to pin-point a clearly defined group (mostly religious, ethnic, racial,..) as *the* source of major socio-cultural changes, and frequently it’s Jews (sometimes masons or something similar).

    And this is a major misfire, because no such group exists. There is no causal connexion between any ethnicity/race/… & great upheavals in the West (and in the US) in past 3-4 decades, especially re immigration debates, influx of culturally & racially foreign and inimical masses, disintegration of family & denigration of national loyalties etc. To think that a group (or groups), which is relatively easy to identify, can be the source of such monumental upheavals bespeaks of historical illiteracy.

    There was no ethnic nor ideological group of people behind such shattering revolutions & world-view changes like transition from Roman republic to Imperial Rome, Protestant Reformation, Crusades, formation of national monarchies, Enlightenment, collapse of “divine rights” of kings, imperialist expansion of European powers, national awakening in the 19th C, WW1 and WW2,… Not Jews, not masons, not Illuminati, not Rosicrucians, not some occult brotherhood residing in the Himalayas.

    Simply, Western civilization has come to a dead end
    -as it was the continuity of the 18th C Enlightenment- and we are witnessing the processes of further decay, encapsulated in famous hypothetical question ascribed to Lenin: ” Are the forces which propel us to greatness the same that will, transformed by mutations of History, eventually lead to our collapse ?”

    A man who, despite his shortcomings & delusions about the role of technology, various national cultures and their dominant currents, understood this better than most was Oswald Spengler. The Western civilizational matrix is old and tired. And this is the root of the Western decline. That what plagues the West & the US the most (race replacement, PC “liberal” ideological muzzle, hedonist emptiness & biological collapse manifested in infertility, pathological altruism, lunatic ideological fashions like n-th wave of feminism, media aggression promoting “diversity” & homosexualism- as different from homosexuality, self-hatred of European & Western culture….)-this is as present, although a bit modified, in Italy, Spain, Denmark, Norway, France, Germany, Switerland,.. as in the US. And in these countries Jewish presence in the media & the overall life is negligible or non-existent.

    Although ruling elites differ in these countries, they are a mixture of hereditary aristocracy, established bourgeois families & plutocratic oligarchs. These groups have, historically, served their countries. Now, they are morally & culturally bankrupt and serve outmoded gods whose future is annihilation- similar situation that had befallen pompous & deluded aristocrats in the 18th-19th C or imperialist jingoists in the 20th.

    The failure of nerve that comes with exhausted & geriatric social-cultural matrix is to blame, not some group conspiracy.

    But, the societal-cultural matrix is exhausted, not the people. Mr. Derbyshire’s flaw, in my opinion, is linear extrapolation of current events. He should know from history this is a fatal mistake. Just compare Europe in 1930 (cars, planes, fascism, communism, cubism, quantum mechanics, relativity, psychoanalysis, radio, tanks, films, ..) and during 1900 (technologically, scientifically, ideologically and artistically more or less the same as 1880).
  82. @Jason Liu
    Assuming that theory is true, maybe the goyim wouldn't turn on the Jews if the Jews didn't constantly agitate to flood the nation with foreigners and come up with retarded new ways to demonize the domestic population.

    That aside, I'm not sure left wing Jews really believe it's 1881 Russia, or that their Judaic values compel them to be liberals. It's more likely the other way around. They use their past victimhood as a fearmongering tactic, and their religion as moral support for their political views. Deep down, they are first and foremost true believers, worshiping at the altar of Egalitarianism.

    Deep down, they are first and foremost true believers, worshiping at the altar of Egalitarianism.

    Modern Jewish people are class supremacist, specifically victim class supremacist.

    There’s nothing egalitarian about victim class supremacy.

    Victim class supremacy takes the form of constant agitation in favor of illicit national entitlements for victim cultists, and demonization of oppressor class people.

    The popular euphemism for victim class people is “diversity”.

    The popular euphemism for victim class people group entitlements is “inclusion”.

    http://www.mindexchange.com/diversity.htm

    By Group: African American, Alternate Lifestyle, Asian, Disabled, Hispanic & Latino, Jewish, Native American, Women

    Both the US and Israel implement a victim class supremacy scheme as a national policy.

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  83. @Randal
    I'm used to pushback from all the special interest groups I annoy by skewering their sacred cows. The amount depends upon the readership of the publication in question, generally. But robbersdog's the first to ever credibly threaten prosecution (in fairness to others, these anti-dissent laws are only nowadays starting to be properly enforced), and the only one to actually succeed in getting me banned, from two publications (The National Interest and the Spectator blogs), though many have reported me for, variously, "homophobic", "racist", "sexist" and other comments advocating traditionalist conservative opinions. Clearly, as well as good timing, jewish would-be censors benefit from institutional and political connections at the highest levels, perhaps more so than the run of the mill special interest identity groups.

    Mind you I was banned sharpish from the Guardian (many years ago), but I think that was the management's decision without any special pleading needed. I don't mind that, as I'd expect openly leftist publications to frown on traditionalist opinions. It's the ones who pretend to be "conservative" that annoy me, by their dishonesty.

    Thanks for the response. I didn’t realize that opinions were legally actionable in the UK.

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    I didn’t realize that opinions were legally actionable in the UK.
     
    See my reply to Sam Shama above. It's something that's gradually becoming more common, starting with the easy targets (people who post violent or gratuitously offensive rants on Twitter, Facebook etc) in order to establish precedents and get people accustomed to the idea.

    In the long run, though, the identity lobbyists are openly salivating at the prospect of making all their pet hate opinions and arguments illegal even to express. You can get some idea of the sheer extent of what the elites and lobbyists consider "anti-Semitic discourse" in last year's report of the Parliamentary committee on antisemitism:

    http://www.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/themes/PCAA/images/4189_PCAA_Antisemitism%20Report_spreads_v9%20REPRO-DPS_FOR%20WEB_v3.pdf

    If you are in the US you might be entitled to some feeling of smugness about your own First Amendment. Indeed I grew up believing that such written protections were unnecessary and not needed in my own country. I was wrong - I failed to foresee the scale and sheer, flagrant hypocrisy of the left's turn from defending freedom of speech to actively promoting the open suppression of dissent in the past few decades. But I suspect I was correct that your written constitution won't in practice protect you much better. I foresee a "hate speech" exception to the US's free speech protections being adopted by your Supreme Court within a decade or two - sooner if Clinton wins this time.
  84. @Randal
    Obviously can't speak for those who believe in an actual overarching jewish conspiracy, but the evidence for disproportionate jewish influence in media and politics is clearly evident to anyone who experiences censorship and even prosecution for expressing opinions that are "anti-Semitic". Good luck trying to generate such harassment for anybody expressing equivalently anti-white opinions.

    Here's one of my own bits of anecdotal evidence:

    "And whilst we're on the subject of deletions...I'm going for the big one, ie, the ultimate solution to the Randal problem. I've already been in touch with one of Disqus' two founders in San Francisco, and I'll be furnishing him with details of the police investigation into your hate-speech. He's got a Jewish wife and many of his investors (who will be contacted if necessary) are Jewish too. Those Jews eh?"

    As it happens he hasn't succeeded with that particular piece of harassment yet, although he succeeded in getting me banned from The National Interest and from Spectator Blogs using the same special connection. Clearly there are some jewish people for whom commitment to freedom of speech is more genuine than for others (such as our host here, I assume).

    Shall I try writing to the various white non-Jewish owners and managers of some major publications asking them to ban people who've been making anti-white comments? How far do you think I'd get?

    Let’s see: Jews (or Organized Jewry) in the US have a disproportionate amount of power in financial circles & media (and a few other areas, but that is beside the point). Well- who zombified you guys ? Who prevented you from having equal or greater media clout ? Is Fox News, the most influential newsmedia, actually “Jewish” ?

    In the US, Jews are not dominant in banking- overrepresented yes, but not dominant; nor are they much present in other “moneyed” fields like oil & gas or military-industrial complex. Most big US banks don’t have a strong Jewish influence; to speak of Jews among Seven sisters or Lockheed Martin is outright silly.

    Also, media in most European countries (Germany, UK, France, Italy, Denmark, Spain,..) & Russia is in the hands of national, non-Jewish elites. And they- Russia apart- all spout the same liberal nonsense.

    Jews or no Jews, this is a phase of European & Europe-derived civilization with its own dynamics, causes & effects. Jewry’s influence is not negligible, but also- far from crucial. The weakness lies elsewhere.

    http://www.amren.com/features/2013/08/why-are-europeans-more-racially-aware/

    http://www.amren.com/features/2012/07/pathological-altruism/

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  85. “I’d not an anti-Semite; I never have been; and I don’t have much time for anti-Semites.”

    Reminds me of “I’m not a racist, but…”.

    C’mon Derb! Why the obligatory disclaimer?

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  86. @geokat62

    No, I think Derb has it right; it is in fact a small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome. Looked at the Jewish assimilation rates lately?

    Gilad Atzmon is mad.
     
    Hi, Sam. I have to admit, I really missed exchanging comments with you. During my hiatus, I had the opportunity to read GA's The Wondering Who? Needless to say, it was an interesting read. In Chapter 1, he makes the following observation:

    As far as self-perception is concerned, those who call themselves Jews could be divided into three main categories:

    1. Those who follow Judaism.
    2. Those who regard themselves as human beings that happen to be of Jewish origin.
    3. Those who put their Jewish-ness over and above all of their other traits.
     
    You once informed UR readers that most Jews are Zionists. I guess this means that they fall into Atzmon's 3rd category? If that's true, doesn't that call into question your claim that a "small minority set [of Jews] which is afflicted by this cossacks-at-the-door syndrome"?

    As for Giraldi,... [AIPAC] has a membership of 100,000. However at time he takes his position to a place where it fails to distinguish cause from effect [who drives U.S. aid to Israel? Think]
     
    I've been thinking, but being a dumb goy, I can't for the life of me figure out "who drives US aid to Israel," except for the Lobby.

    There are many organisations and advocacy groups which boast much larger memberships. Yet we are housed in a majoritarian rule based society, where advocacy remains an important cornerstone.
     
    True. But can these organizations and advocacy groups boast donor names like Saban and Adelson?

    I think your position is flawed where you see the Jewish hand at work, your default factor, behind all perceived wrongdoing.
     
    Not "all," Sam. But I think you know how significant that influence is and the damage it's doing to American interests... just ask Mearsheimer and Walt.

    Forgot to mention: Aid to Israel is driven hugely by the armaments business. Its aided by AIPAC’s advocacy as well. I cannot place objective weights on each, but let’s just assume 50/50 [ I think its more like 80/20 biased in the direction of the arms interests]. Take away “aid” to Israel and some other way of recycling that money will be found. Count on it.

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  87. @Mr. Anon
    Do we believe in your comic-book-like straw-man characterization of rather complicated social inter-relationships that we have actually observed in the world at large? No.

    Now I have a question for you: Have you stopped beating your wife?

    To re-post old comments is a sign of laziness. But, what can I say: I’m lazy.

    So, for the umpteenth time.

    The crucial mistake virtually all conspiracy- theories minded people make is that they try to pin-point a clearly defined group (mostly religious, ethnic, racial,..) as *the* source of major socio-cultural changes, and frequently it’s Jews (sometimes masons or something similar).

    And this is a major misfire, because no such group exists. There is no causal connexion between any ethnicity/race/… & great upheavals in the West (and in the US) in past 3-4 decades, especially re immigration debates, influx of culturally & racially foreign and inimical masses, disintegration of family & denigration of national loyalties etc. To think that a group (or groups), which is relatively easy to identify, can be the source of such monumental upheavals bespeaks of historical illiteracy.

    There was no ethnic nor ideological group of people behind such shattering revolutions & world-view changes like transition from Roman republic to Imperial Rome, Protestant Reformation, Crusades, formation of national monarchies, Enlightenment, collapse of “divine rights” of kings, imperialist expansion of European powers, national awakening in the 19th C, WW1 and WW2,… Not Jews, not masons, not Illuminati, not Rosicrucians, not some occult brotherhood residing in the Himalayas.

    Simply, Western civilization has come to a dead end
    -as it was the continuity of the 18th C Enlightenment- and we are witnessing the processes of further decay, encapsulated in famous hypothetical question ascribed to Lenin: ” Are the forces which propel us to greatness the same that will, transformed by mutations of History, eventually lead to our collapse ?”

    A man who, despite his shortcomings & delusions about the role of technology, various national cultures and their dominant currents, understood this better than most was Oswald Spengler. The Western civilizational matrix is old and tired. And this is the root of the Western decline. That what plagues the West & the US the most (race replacement, PC “liberal” ideological muzzle, hedonist emptiness & biological collapse manifested in infertility, pathological altruism, lunatic ideological fashions like n-th wave of feminism, media aggression promoting “diversity” & homosexualism- as different from homosexuality, self-hatred of European & Western culture….)-this is as present, although a bit modified, in Italy, Spain, Denmark, Norway, France, Germany, Switerland,.. as in the US. And in these countries Jewish presence in the media & the overall life is negligible or non-existent.

    Although ruling elites differ in these countries, they are a mixture of hereditary aristocracy, established bourgeois families & plutocratic oligarchs. These groups have, historically, served their countries. Now, they are morally & culturally bankrupt and serve outmoded gods whose future is annihilation- similar situation that had befallen pompous & deluded aristocrats in the 18th-19th C or imperialist jingoists in the 20th.

    The failure of nerve that comes with exhausted & geriatric social-cultural matrix is to blame, not some group conspiracy.

    But, the societal-cultural matrix is exhausted, not the people. Mr. Derbyshire’s flaw, in my opinion, is linear extrapolation of current events. He should know from history this is a fatal mistake. Just compare Europe in 1930 (cars, planes, fascism, communism, cubism, quantum mechanics, relativity, psychoanalysis, radio, tanks, films, ..) and during 1900 (technologically, scientifically, ideologically and artistically more or less the same as 1880).

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    I guess I'm lazy too, because I did not bother to read your post, nor am I going to. You seemed to be talking about the illuminati or some such bullshit. As I said, yours is a strawman characterization. We - some of us at least - are not talking about secret cabals. We're talking about ethnic self-interest pursued by certain people in tacit agreement with one another and, occasionally, in concert. That is not make-believe; it is an observable fact, and is, in fact, true.

    You believe whatever you like. I don't care what you believe. Your opinions are obviously of little worth.
  88. Counter-Semitism

    The Heresies of Pat Buchanan
    By Jacob Weisberg
    October 21, 1990
    Cruising for a bruising

    https://newrepublic.com/article/69035/the-heresies-pat-buchanan

    Joe Sobran, a syndicated columnist who was himself accused of anti-Semitism a few years ago, offers this perspective on the Pat Buchanan flap: “Jewish claims are being cut down to size in various ways. It’s coded by a lot of Jews as anti-Semitism. I don’t think it is. It’s more like counter-Semitism.”

    Sobran says that “counter-Semitism,” unlike anti-Semitism, does not seek a “negative outcome” for Jews. It is an attempt “to bring Jews down to the level of ordinary civil society.” According to Sobran, he shares with Buchanan, a friend, an urge to diminish “the excessive moral prestige Jews have in the media and the public square. . . . Jews deciding the standards, setting the criteria of humanity. Since they set themselves up as the arbiter, there is, if you’ll pardon the expression, a certain kill-the-umpire impulse. . . . People are looking at them and saying, come off it. This period of moral prestige has kind of ended.”

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    It is in memory of Joey Sobran, Holocaust denier and Shakespeare conspiracy theorist, that we raise a glass to kidney failure. Diabetes did a nice number on the silly hack.
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    Interesting story that I’ve not told anyone but keeps ringing in my brain. A very good Jewish friend of mine from my youth invited me to his wedding to a wealthy Jewess in a rural seaside town on the eastern seaboard. This town is lightly populated because it’s largely made up of large acreage estates, not 1/4 acre cottage plots.

    He drove us around a couple of times to and from the wedding location. Near their estate was a normal home, likely populated by a local plumber or other tradesman type. Nestled in the corner of the lot was a colonial-era burial plot. Every time he passed the house, he noted to whomever was in the car, “see that? They have a cemetery in their front yard. Apparently they can’t get rid of it because there’s some law. Crazy.” 4 passes, 4 times with the same remark.

    Am I being sensitive or does that sound rather insensitive? My ancestors settled towns just miles from that one. Those people resting quietly in the land they tamed are likely my distant cousins many times removed. I sat there thinking – if a Gentile even mused about digging up and displacing Jewish graves to build anything, they’d be summarily socially destroyed.

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  90. @Mark Green
    Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb's terrified of being labeled an 'anti-Semite'. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he's a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what's urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

    Also Israel Shamir, and the incomparable essays of Paul Eisen (both Jewish, although Shamir converted to Christianity.

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  91. @Randal

    However, I’ve turned against the word “philosemite,” for reasons I’ve explained elsewhere. Basically, it’s patronizing. If pressed on the issue, I call myself an anti-anti-Semite. I cherish my Jewish friends, and I have publicly—and again, I think, more than once—expressed gratitude in print for the positive contribution Jews have made to our civilization, way out of proportion to their numbers.
     
    As an English/British nativist I regard my country as a basically Christian one (yes, I know that's old fashioned, and I know there was a time when my country was not Christian). I take the view that jewish influence is as alien as muslim, Buddhist and all the other non-Christian foreign influences that exist in my country. I do not, of course, take the view that all those foreign influences are equally benign or equally malign.

    I have been told by an obsessive jewish anti-antisemite snitch and witch-finder that my stating this was "probably the most disgustingly antisemitic comment I have ever seen on any forum". This from a man who openly boasted about his role in arranging for actual prosecutions of several anti-Semitic "hate speechers" (and gloated extensively about the suffering he had been able to vicariously inflict upon his victims by using these laws against them).

    I grew up strongly pro-Israel and in a household which could probably be classed as philo-semitic. It was only after I watched Israel becoming increasingly the cause of trouble in the ME once its military security had been assured, in the 1980s and 1990s, and I began to be harassed by jewish zealots and partisans for criticism of Israel, that it even occurred to me to regard jews and jewishness as having any particular negative aspects, in the way I have always viewed islam. Further movement in that direction resulted from recognising that jewish influence in my own country's politics (often via US media and politics) was frequently massively harmful, in advocating for wars of aggression and interventionism, aligning us with Israel, and pushing aggressively globalist, anti-white, and socially liberal agendas.

    The final seal on that journey was set in place by the direct jewish harassment I have received in recent years merely for expressing opinions such as those above. When someone threatens to have me prosecuted for expressing my opinions, I take it personally

    Nowadays I tend to regard jewish influence as broadly negative, as I long have regarded muslim influence. Such a judgement is, of course, only ever a generalisation.

    I was raised and educated in the U.K. and consider myself a bit of a monarchist. I am jewish. My question is, how does this character you were crossing words with, have anonymous commenters prosecuted?

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    With the resources of the state it isn't difficult, I understand, to identify who is behind supposedly anonymous tags, but I don't know the ins and outs of how they go about it. I suspect most major internet organisations will provide information to the police when told it's in relation to a "criminal investigation". There are procedures and structures put in place to deal with really nasty stuff (child porn, terrorism etc). We don't have the kinds of protection for speech and privacy that they have in the US, and such matters are far less transparent.

    Here's the individual in question boasting about the process and gloating about some of his other victims:

    And yes, I know you're still waiting. Unfortunately, the process that is currently being worked through runs slower than a snail's pace. It involves a huge amount of co-ordination between CAA, up to three police forces (the recipient of the original complaint, your local force and the force where the antisemitism czar is based) and the CPS. Oh, and me and several other Jewish people who read your comments too..........So far, two of the five people under investigation have been arrested and questioned. One of them (David Carter - Cardiff's answer to Adolf Hitler) is still spewing out the same hate-speech on twitter (@splottdave), whilst the second one (Samantha Blair in Thurso - @ValhallaSam) has had a meltdown whilst waiting to be charged. I wonder which way you'll go when the 'reality' that you keep banging on about, but about which you have no concept, eventually kicks in.

    Usually I'd just dismiss this kind of thing as internet trolling, but I take this one seriously for two reasons. First I know there has been a move towards starting to enforce "hate speech" repression laws at the highest levels, and second he posted on Disqus about having discussed "my case" in a meeting with the Assistant Chief Constable responsible for this process nationally just before the apparatchik in question announced on Twitter that he'd had such a meeting. Too close for a coincidence.

    My suspicion is that he just doesn't understand the issues involved, and that the CPS and politicians won't fancy trying to extend their speech control laws to political discussion comments on small political discussion forums just yet (so far they are just going for people who shout abusive racist terms and rant about violent solutions on the big platforms such as Twitter, Facebook etc,, in order to get the rules bedded in and principles accepted, as far as I can tell).

    A lot depends on how far the new Home Secretary wants to push the issue. Theresa May, I think, was well known for being personally authoritarian and was enthusiastically behind enforcing such laws if she could get away with it.

    Bottom line is I don't look forward to the hassles that would be involved in the process, but I'm interested to see how far they can take it, and am quite happy to plead not guilty and take whatever comes. I'm retired and my children are grown up, so I can afford to go to prison for a spell if that's what it comes down to. Certainly I won't be pleading guilty or apologising, under any circumstances, even if the legal advice were to be that defeat is certain.
  92. @Astraea Shaw
    Read The Bible Unearthed. by the great Jewish archaeologist Israel Finkelstein then look for the Youtube video called "The Walls Come Tumblin' Down."

    That video was made by John McCarthy the journalist who was held hostage by young Muslim militants in Beirut in the nineties, for five tears in solitary confinement.

    He had nothing to do all day but read the Bible which was allowed him.

    After being released he decided to go to "the Holy Land" to look into things for himself.

    It is a fascinating series of videos.

    Read also Christ in Egypt by DM Murdock.

    Thanks. I’ll start with the McCarthy video.

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  93. @Greg Bacon
    The term anti-Semite has been tossed around so much that it no longer has the power to frighten Americans into shutting up.

    Is it anti-Semitism to wonder why so many American Jews, many with dual citizenship with that Apartheid nightmare, are always cheering on the slaughter in the ME while always providing cover for their fav nation whenever it goes on another homicidal rampage against defenseless Gaza and steals more land from the native Palestinians in the West Bank?

    always providing cover for their fav nation whenever it goes on another homicidal rampage against defenseless Gaza and steals more land from the native Palestinians in the West Bank?

    The people who says this also can’t help themselves about bashing white Americans for Indians, slavery, and not letting in millions more Muslims.

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  94. @Rich
    Apparently, Timothy Geithner was half-German and Half English and a Christian to boot. You'll have to cross him off your list.

    If that is true about Geithner, then he can be relegated to the rank of ‘Shabbos Goy,’ doing work for his Israeli buddies, like standing by and twiddling his thumbs when Bernie Madoff looted billions from investors.

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  95. @Mark Green
    Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb's terrified of being labeled an 'anti-Semite'. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he's a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what's urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

    John Derbyshire, for all his fine rhetorical qualities, has a seething suspicion of a politically activized working class – writing essays against immigration is kosher, but heavens forbid you actually take it to the streets (what an “unsavory bunch”!). And dey culcha of upper class English pedophilia has to be defended at all costs, especially when it helps keep the Bear at bay and the Cossacks away.

    So this is all quite natural, really. The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew.

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    "So this is all quite natural, really. The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew."

    Ouch.

    There used to be a movement that contended they were literally the same people: "British-Israelism."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism

    We still have it around today (on the lunatic fringe) as "Christian Identity" which posits that Whites are the "real Jews" and the Jews calling themselves Jews are just pretending. It's an Anglo-Protestant thing. Good old convergent evolution.
    , @Sam Shama
    [So this is all quite natural, really. The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew.]

    Have you a problem with that? Abe Foxman wants to have a word with you.....
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    Anatoly

    I find your comments very interesting for I think it touches upon the larger issue in the background:The Cold War.


    It is my view that Cold War ideology of the WASP Elites destroyed the Nation that I was born and raised in. The WASP Elites passed the Cold War football off to the Jewish Neocons who have taken it all the way to the mass murder of Conservative Orthodox Christians in the Eastern Ukraine.


    Could the Native Born White American Working Class have lived in peace with The Soviet Union. My answer is they really should have....and could have.


    I would like to hear your views and SmoothiesX1 views on my comments.


    The Ideology of The Cold War was a cancer on the Native Born White American Working Class. The real existential threat to the Native Born White American Working Class was a Kenyan Foreign Exchange Muslim student who came into the US through a NATO anti-commie Cold War Program...how ironic.
    , @Auntie Analogue
    "The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew."

    My dear Mr. Karlin, there is not just that one side; there are two sides of the Anglo regard toward Jews, exemplified by the expression, within living memory common among the English, "un-British," which meant "Jewish." Like another insular culture's linguistic distinction of outsiders, "un-British" has its counterpart in the Japanese gaijin.

    There is in my experience actually a great deal more evidence of British, especially English, fond romanticizing of Arabs and even of all of Islam, than there is of English fondness for Jews and Judaism.

    William Blake's "Jerusalem" posits the English not as the historical Jewish center of Judeo-Christian culture, but as blessed with the New Testament (New Covenant) opportunity of building "Jerusalem" as the new, English center of Western Civilization "in England's green and pleasant land." It is and it remains a distinctly Anglican-Protestant thesis.
  96. @Wally
    'antisemitic':

    any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like

    Spot on, but I’d modify this way:

    “any thought or opinion held by a white Christian that a Jew doesn’t like”.

    The fact is Jewish animus is aimed solely at whites and especially those of the Christian persuasion. Look at what’s happening in France and Germany where the Muslims are openly attacking Jews, especially in France where they are being forced to flee the country.

    It doesn’t matter if a Jew is beaten, shot or stabbed, there is no outrage among them.

    What are they upset about here in the U.S. Is it open borders? No. Is it Muslim terrorism? No. Is it our cities deteriorating under a onslaught of 3rd worlders? No.

    Then what are they angry about? Trump and his policies regarding trade and immigration and his nationalism.

    These are anathema to the Jewish values. Not American values, Jewish values. There is a distinct difference between the two.

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  97. @dearieme
    "Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible": as I understand it, Ashkenazis are about 50% descended from people of the Near East, who may or may not have been "Jews of the Bible", but it would be unsurprising if they were. Which "Jews of the Bible" is another question: to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on? In fact, is there any sense in asking about the relationship between real, historical people, and people who occur in myths?

    Meantime, the current Palestinians are (wild guess) maybe 70% descended from the "Jews of the Bible" of Jesus's time. If anyone has any facts, rather than a wild guess, I'd be interested to hear them.

    Which “Jews of the Bible” is another question: to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on?

    Given that Jews do not evangelize, and are usually even hostile to people who say they want to convert, the odds are pretty high.

    Meantime, the current Palestinians are (wild guess) maybe 70% descended from the “Jews of the Bible” of Jesus’s time. If anyone has any facts, rather than a wild guess, I’d be interested to hear them.

    Much lower. Modern Israel suffered from multiple depopulating wars during the long era was contested between the remnants of Alexander’s army, during the rebellious years in the Roman Empire, again with the Islamic conquest and Crusades.

    Because it is a fertile coastal area with good weather, and was safe from the conflicts elsewhere in the Empire, a large portion of the Muslims in modern Israel were immigrants who came there in the 19th Century from other parts of the Ottoman Empire.

    Probably the people in the middle east besides actual Jews who are closest to the Jews of the latter parts of the Bible are the Druze and Lebanese and Syrian Christians.

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    [to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on?

    Given that Jews do not evangelize, and are usually even hostile to people who say they want to convert, the odds are pretty high.]

    You seem to have missed the word "myths", which is pretty important in the context.

    [Because it is a fertile coastal area with good weather, and was safe from the conflicts elsewhere in the Empire, a large portion of the Muslims in modern Israel were immigrants who came there in the 19th Century from other parts of the Ottoman Empire.]

    I believe this is known as "projection". The zionists know what they themselves were up to, so hasten to accuse the other side of the same thing. Sit pro ratione voluntas.
    , @dearieme
    "Given that Jews do not evangelise. ..": as a matter of history, that is plain wrong. Presumably you mean that Jews do not currently evangelise. They certainly used to.
  98. I have publicly—and again, I think, more than once—expressed gratitude in print for the positive contribution Jews have made to our civilization, way out of proportion to their numbers.

    To me that’s like being grateful to the guy who slipped a hundred bucks into your pocket as he smashed you over the head with a brick, putting you into a coma. True, but oblivious.

    Given your belabored caveats, you don’t seem oblivious to who has the power. Of course, the delicate approach is more evidence of Jews’ power and vengefulness.

    They don’t care much for your nuance. The ones that do have no power.

    I don’t blame you, of course. You’re a public intellectual.

    This is why I think public intellectuals are hopeless on these issues. Gateway drugs, at best.

    If you know who he is, he’s almost certainly not being honest about the JQ. C’est la vie.

    (Rubin) We Jews just believe in good and evil. We don’t think everyone is redeemable.

    Projection: they know they aren’t.

    I wouldn’t be terrifically surprised to learn that it was exactly that remark that lodged itself in Bret Stephens’ mind, causing him to pair off West with Trump at the dark end of the spectrum.

    Yeah, it’s pretty hard for a black to earn a negative comment from a Jew (in a broadcast medium). You either have to touch the Jewish rail, or be way out there, like Bill Cosby.

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  99. @Anatoly Karlin
    John Derbyshire, for all his fine rhetorical qualities, has a seething suspicion of a politically activized working class - writing essays against immigration is kosher, but heavens forbid you actually take it to the streets (what an "unsavory bunch"!). And dey culcha of upper class English pedophilia has to be defended at all costs, especially when it helps keep the Bear at bay and the Cossacks away.

    So this is all quite natural, really. The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew.

    “So this is all quite natural, really. The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew.”

    Ouch.

    There used to be a movement that contended they were literally the same people: “British-Israelism.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism

    We still have it around today (on the lunatic fringe) as “Christian Identity” which posits that Whites are the “real Jews” and the Jews calling themselves Jews are just pretending. It’s an Anglo-Protestant thing. Good old convergent evolution.

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  100. @Alec Leamas

    Are you singing Dixie and attending Nassacre on a regular basis? Are those the pinnacle of American cultural markers?
     
    Forgive the limits of my goyishe kopf but these are the shibboleths of the American culture despised by Jews. Good, bad or indifferent they among other things are part of the dominant culture which alleged to be "assimilating" Jews should be joining in rather than the other way round. That's the point - you're not assimilating when you make the dominant culture more palatable to you and more like your own. You're asserting supremacy.

    I’d say football, apple pie, thanksgiving, love for the works of Hemmingway, Faulkner, Melville , Lee are more American. And plenty of Jews do that. In fact I’d speculate without direct evidence that proportionally similar to the general population.
     
    Right! Somebody has to own the teams! Wakka Wakka:

    http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/28/gene-simmons-jews-football-own-teams-la-kiss/

    Who else would tell us that Ahab is a repressed homosexual and the white wale a giant phallus? That's appreciation if I ever heard it!

    It is extremely expensive to remain a Jew [a direct corollary being remaining members are generally wealthier].
     
    You're going to have to explain why and how one's ethnicity and religion could be unilaterally expunged by an insufficient income.

    Yes, and you have observed all this yourself among the many Jews you call friends and neighbours, am I right? It’s unmitigated nonsense. Spare me the ‘patriotic’ drumbeat please and recount your experience, even a few, where you’ve felt a Jewish person pulling cultural rank over you, and I will show you an idiot. Most likely you don’t have any.
     
    I could start with the childhood experiences of being one of a handful of gentiles at a Jewish summer camp for several years seriatim. It doesn't matter though since no amount of experience and no number of similar experiences to my own would be sufficient for you. I could never satisfy your challenge since it is by design intended not to be satisfied. From childhood Jews are imbued with ethnic and moral chauvinism and among themselves have no compunction about expressing it.

    Forgive the limits of my goyishe kopf but these are the shibboleths of the American culture despised by Jews.

    Your kopf, goyische or otherwise [reason for the distinction unclear] is good enough for me, even as you leapt to a conclusion – from the proclivities of one [this commentor] – regarding the apparent preferences of the lot. Have you proof that jews “despise” Nascar? [I don't especially like it]. Are you saying e.g., it is compulsory that I like the Kardashians – no doubt the doyennes for modern American culture – to establish my assimilation? No thank you; I shall stick to Harper Lee and Caroline in the Prairies.

    Right! Somebody has to own the teams! Wakka Wakka:

    Who else would tell us that Ahab is a repressed homosexual and the white wale a giant phallus? That’s appreciation if I ever heard it!

    Yes somebody does have to own them, don’t they? And the rest of us get to watch the games. Is there a law which prevents one from owning a team? Oh wait, I forget; jews are getting the stuff printed for them by the Fed!

    About Ahab’s homo inclinations and the white phallus, you are the chap who just reminded me of Henry Murray’s wrong-headed assertion re: Melville’s homosexual inclinations. Nonsense. Melville was a wordsmith, rhyming genius and poet, in the tradition of Shakespeare and Milton.

    You’re going to have to explain why and how one’s ethnicity and religion could be unilaterally expunged by an insufficient income.

    There was this socio-genetic study [featured in the NY Times about 5 years back] which inter alia, identified a major dynamic [both historical and global] where Jews who could not maintain the expenses of remaining Jewish [large synagogue dues, Hebrew school fees, etc] simply turned to Christianity or Islam. This has lead to a significantly self-selecting residual population which is somewhat stable in size, wealth, and education. That is about the long and short of it.

    I could start with the childhood experiences of being one of a handful of gentiles at a Jewish summer camp for several years seriatim. It doesn’t matter though since no amount of experience and no number of similar experiences to my own would be sufficient for you.

    Well I feel embarrassed such was your experience and can certainly believe it. Can you though, genuinely claim this experience to be out of norm, had you instead, for argument’s sake, attended a summer camp for Mormons? Or Japanese?

    From childhood Jews are imbued with ethnic and moral chauvinism and among themselves have no compunction about expressing it.

    There may be a grain of truth to this, yet I doubt it is any more disagreeable than ordinary group pride expressed by any given ethnicity [French? Chinese? .....]

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    Alex Leamas: From childhood Jews are imbued with ethnic and moral chauvinism and among themselves have no compunction about expressing it.

    There may be a grain of truth to this, yet I doubt it is any more disagreeable than ordinary group pride expressed by any given ethnicity [French? Chinese? .....]
     

    I do not think that Mr. Shama believes that for one second. He is reflexively zombie like defending his culture, he has no choice in the matter. All the traumatic propaganda subjected on him in his youth still grips his soul. He was inculcated with a loathing for his fellow humans. He was indoctrinated with an exclusive identity rather than an inclusive identity. As a young boy he was instilled with a hate and fear of all other tribes. Mr. Shama doesn’t know it – but he was abused – his Big Jew cultural leaders abused him. They stole his intellectual freedom.

    This childhood drum beat manifests itself in Mr. Shama’s adulthood persona. No matter what occurs, he finds the words to defend his tribe in a zombie like fashion. What can we say – he is a Little Jew controlled long ago by his Big Jews. What a shame.

    The culmination of all this child abuse is Zionist Israel - a nation of permanent fear – a land that is held together by loathing, fear, and hate.

  101. @Anatoly Karlin
    John Derbyshire, for all his fine rhetorical qualities, has a seething suspicion of a politically activized working class - writing essays against immigration is kosher, but heavens forbid you actually take it to the streets (what an "unsavory bunch"!). And dey culcha of upper class English pedophilia has to be defended at all costs, especially when it helps keep the Bear at bay and the Cossacks away.

    So this is all quite natural, really. The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew.

    [So this is all quite natural, really. The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew.]

    Have you a problem with that? Abe Foxman wants to have a word with you…..

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    @Anatoly Karlin
    John Derbyshire, for all his fine rhetorical qualities, has a seething suspicion of a politically activized working class - writing essays against immigration is kosher, but heavens forbid you actually take it to the streets (what an "unsavory bunch"!). And dey culcha of upper class English pedophilia has to be defended at all costs, especially when it helps keep the Bear at bay and the Cossacks away.

    So this is all quite natural, really. The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew.

    Anatoly

    I find your comments very interesting for I think it touches upon the larger issue in the background:The Cold War.

    It is my view that Cold War ideology of the WASP Elites destroyed the Nation that I was born and raised in. The WASP Elites passed the Cold War football off to the Jewish Neocons who have taken it all the way to the mass murder of Conservative Orthodox Christians in the Eastern Ukraine.

    Could the Native Born White American Working Class have lived in peace with The Soviet Union. My answer is they really should have….and could have.

    I would like to hear your views and SmoothiesX1 views on my comments.

    The Ideology of The Cold War was a cancer on the Native Born White American Working Class. The real existential threat to the Native Born White American Working Class was a Kenyan Foreign Exchange Muslim student who came into the US through a NATO anti-commie Cold War Program…how ironic.

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    Progressivism destroyed the nation. It was finished off in the regime of Roosevelt the Great.
  103. Congratulations to Mr. Derbyshire – it takes great courage for someone in the media to take on the Jews – any Jews for any reason.

    Derbyshire has broken a cardinal media rule – he has identified a political position with Jewishness.

    In the Jew controlled MSM people are never identified as Jews (i.e., ZZ’s – Zionist Zombies) when they espouse Zionist political positions.

    These two Jews in the video got their 1881 victimization mindset by the age of 10. Their culture has terrorized them. Jew innocent young are inculcated with fear and loathing for Gentiles. These two are clearly operating on thoughtless angry Zionist Zombie autopilot. Their immigration position for America is 100% different from their immigration position for Israel. They are intellectually dishonest – something they learned from their culture as children.

    p.s. I do not share his “subset” designation – I believe that 85% of all Jews are ZZ’ers (Zionist Zombies).

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  104. @Mark Green
    Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb's terrified of being labeled an 'anti-Semite'. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he's a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what's urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

    I have no doubt Derb is perfectly capable of “writing boldly and honestly of Jews as wrongdoers.” should he chose to do so.
    In fact, he would, should he chose to do so, most likely do it better than anyone else.

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  105. @Jim Christian
    I love that notion that a panel of two Jews, two Christians, all four Lille-White, privileged, connected, "educated", sit around and bat about the percentage of Trump voters that are irredeemable and deplorable and racist. They name the group, White, working class, lower-caste Trump supporters. Then, they assign varying levels of racism to us? And the Jewish debaters of course, in THEIR racism, assign higher levels of racism to the Trump Goyim than the Christian debaters and of course, the Jews consider US irredeemable more than the Gentile elites at the panel debate.

    These are the elites that set the illegals on the rest of us, empower Blacks to their violence (not a word for THEIR racism and violence, of course) and live in their gated communities traveling on armed security details and limousines. This panel, they're the same coin, different side, both sides elite, except the Jews have more money, no doubt. Being a Multi-Culti Deplorable however, I will happily observe if not assist, the anarchy that goes looking for these elites. When the balloon goes up, when the gated communities are swamped and the mobs are looking for these people to repay the anarchy these elites themselves create, the mobs will not discriminate, they will cut ALL the elite throats. Mustn't be anti-Semite! In that scenario, ALL the elites die.

    well said. when hillary gets in the fun will begin. btw, any jew who supports muslim migration is signing their own death warrent. othodox jews are voting trump. ((i)) can not begin to even understand the rest. the elites do what they do for $$. as for ordinary jews? don’t ask ((me)), i never got along w/most of them. after they did whiteflight, they should have learned their lesson.

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  106. Why are you talking about Cossacks and 1881 when it would be more to the point to mention Nazis and 1933-1945. That’s where their minds are trapped. Same way for neocons it’s always 1938 or ’39 and we’re Great Britain.

    But I suppose it’s a good thing that not every single page on the internet is about Nazis.

    The mindset’s as old as Jewry. The Cossacks thing is just the earliest, prominent example in the mainstream (largely Judeo-formed) historical narrative. Then it was supplanted by Hitler and the Nazis. If someone went back in time and killed all the Nazi leaders before they became leaders, and WWII never happened, then the Jews would be back to using Cossacks as their apotheosis.

    Deep down, they are first and foremost true believers, worshiping at the altar of Egalitarianism.

    Nonsense. Israel makes it obvious nonsense.

    I wonder whether it’s connected to the phenomenon of people never really getting over a defeat – rejection in love, the American South forever mumbling old bones, Mexicans still smarting from the loss of their territory to America. Perhaps the difference in degree is due to Jews’ higher smarts and thus potency in this world, perhaps due to a higher-than-average sense of /their people/. Christ, I’ve heard NPR’s Ira Glass talk about ‘his people’.

    Wonder away. The rest of us know nobody nurses a grievance like Jews (and their cousins, other SW Asian populations). They don’t call it the lachrymose history of the Jews for nothing.

    I find it funny that the “it’s merit!” crowd refuse – absolutely refuse, as a general rule – to consider the possibility that Jewish racism (ethnocentrism, if you’re being timid) is one of the keys to their success.

    As for “ultra-assimilated,” we’ll know Jews are assimilated when they do to Israel what Anglos (and Jews) did to South Africa. That’s a loooong way off, IMO. Actually, this ship has already sailed, since Jews have dithered (I’m being generous) for too long already.

    Can we call them Elders of Zion, please?

    there are Elders of Zion….. in Zion

    And we’d love to have good commercial relations with a White Nationalist country

    Can someone please establish one?

    Oh, you’re Jewish. That explains a lot. I suppose the “Karl” bit threw me. Blind spot, I guess.

    It’s just a subset, a minority, of blacks who commit murder and mayhem, and a subset, a minority, of moslems who do taharrush and terror attacks. What sort of argument/defense is this?

    Kevin MacDonald > John Derbyshire.

    It might as well be a law of physics: “right-wing” philo-semites will always deploy left-wing arguments in defense of Jews, willy-nilly; the same arguments they spend their time defeating in any other context. I believe the kids call this “selling out.”

    As a Christian, I’m convinceed that all paranoid and hostile Jews can be redeemed, can be indeed delivered from their paranoia and hostility. (That’s the good message to the Jews.) In this respect, I’m perhaps no anti-semite – in all other respects I will accept the label humbly and without protest.

    I think you’re describing apostasy. Not in the nominal sense, but in a real sense. To give this stuff up is to stop being a Jew, IMO. Or maybe “assimilation” would be a better term.

    Randal says:

    September 24, 2016 at 11:08 am GMT • 400 Words

    All great reasons why noticing and thinking need to go.

    The lousy creep who played Borat got his rear beaten by a gentile vibrant in New York City because he played one of his routines on him

    Jews can dig it; they just prefer rhetorical beatings, firings, whispering campaigns, shunnings, etc.

    Jews having been given such a free rein in the West it is punishable as a crime to state what I have just written in some jurisdictions – is this state of affairs truly a defensive measure? Is it not clear that this is aggression disguised as defense, vast power disguised as weakness?

    Good comment, but I would point out that Jewish power is both; it is vast, and fragile. It is the subverted power of others. It is soft power that depends entirely on the assent of other peoples. When Jews’ good name is lost, so is their power. They know this perfectly.

    Dumb. Your own link largely opposes your claim (see the section on Y chromosomes), and the scientific consensus on genetic and historical evidence is entirely against you. Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible, and also have admixture from other regions (mostly Italy in the case of Ashkenazi Jews). This is settled science, and you are either ignorant of it or (more likely) intentionally lying.

    Indeed. Jews’ behavior, if nothing else, is a completely obvious indication of their SW Asian ancestry.

    But lets for argument sakes say it is just the elite jews, the problem is still where did these elite jews come from ?

    Indeed. Every big Jew was once a small Jew. They don’t spring from the eye of Zeus, fully-formed.

    I’ll quote John Hartung for the umpteenth time:

    In-groups sandwich an outline for animosity, an organizing principle for prejudice, between layers of social support. Whether Christian or Muslim or Jewish, every extremist is supported by a small number of less extreme admirers and each of those supporters is buoyed, in turn, by a larger group of sympathizers. These connections are continuous right down to the bottom of the pyramid, where vaguely sympathetic in-group members are offended by the very extremists who would have no base, and no basis, without them. It is that vague sympathy which needs to be examined.

    There’s been enough Jewish examining of everyone else to last an eon. Time for everyone else to examine the Jews.

    Do you guys sincerely believe in all this Jewish conspiracy stuff ? In a Manichaean manner, Jews playing the role of Ahriman ? I mean- really, really believe ?

    I have the Eiffel tower to sell you …

    If you’re asking me, then the answer is “no.”

    The story had all the authenticity of a fairy tale and yet here was a senior State Department official reciting ( probably for the 100th time) it as if it was the truth.

    The amount of bullshit in the “tales of the holocaust” is astounding. I have many of the articles in which they are imparted saved on my hard drive. For those unfamiliar, these are the narratives from survivors who go around lecturing the goyim at high schools and the like. These form a very important part of “holocaust history.” If this stuff wasn’t Jewish, it would be classified as superstitious nonsense. Instead, it’s “history.”

    In the US, Jews are not dominant in banking- overrepresented yes, but not dominant; nor are they much present in other “moneyed” fields like oil & gas or military-industrial complex. Most big US banks don’t have a strong Jewish influence; to speak of Jews among Seven sisters or Lockheed Martin is outright silly.

    Jewish argumentation is for shit. I learned that a long time ago. Hence, the speech codes; they’re much better at networking and oppression than at arguing.

    E.g., the military-industrial complex exists at the whim of gov’t, hence the Neocons. No need to bother with an otherwise boring industry like defense, where people *gag* build things. They have zero cultural power to shape opinion, anyway.

    Neither does oil and gas. Sooo boring, when you can’t exert any mind-control. Better by far to control the culture, and marginalize oil and gas as “the bad guys.”

    Also, media in most European countries (Germany, UK, France, Italy, Denmark, Spain,..) & Russia is in the hands of national, non-Jewish elites. And they- Russia apart- all spout the same liberal nonsense.

    1. All of those countries, “Russia apart,” bend knee to the US. What an odd coincidence!
    2. The demographic situation is much worse in America (lots of Jewish power) than it is in those other countries (much less Jewish power). I don’t know why Jews keep bringing the Europe thing up; I keep knocking this floater out of the park, and Jews just keep pitching it.

    Jews or no Jews, this is a phase of European & Europe-derived civilization with its own dynamics, causes & effects. Jewry’s influence is not negligible, but also- far from crucial. The weakness lies elsewhere.

    Since you offered a couple of links, I’ll offer a couple of my own:

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/

    So much for “far from crucial.” I think “decisive” is the word you’re looking for. I.e., without Jews involved, we win this conflict; with Jews involved, we lose.

    And that’s just the legislators, where Jews lag far behind their presence in other areas (like, say, buying legislators); they’re much more influential in the media, finance, academia etc.

    Forgot to mention: Aid to Israel is driven hugely by the armaments business. Its aided by AIPAC’s advocacy as well. I cannot place objective weights on each, but let’s just assume 50/50 [ I think its more like 80/20 biased in the direction of the arms interests]. Take away “aid” to Israel and some other way of recycling that money will be found. Count on it.

    Blaming the arms industry is just the typical Jewish pattern of blaming their business partners. Junior business partners, at that (media has way more clout than the defense industry). And it is definitely one of those made-in-Hell business partnerships, make no mistake: Jewish media, academics, politicians, etc., give cultural cover to defense industry, defense industry does Zionist bidding.

    Am I being sensitive or does that sound rather insensitive?

    In my experience, Jews are remarkably insensitive to every sensibility but their own (which, admittedly, has come to partially encompass those of their shock troops, like blacks, mestizos, and other non-whites).

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    Jewish argumentation is for shit. I learned that a long time ago. Hence, the speech codes; they’re much better at networking and oppression than at arguing.

    E.g., the military-industrial complex exists at the whim of gov’t, hence the Neocons. No need to bother with an otherwise boring industry like defense, where people *gag* build things. They have zero cultural power to shape opinion, anyway.

    Neither does oil and gas. Sooo boring, when you can’t exert any mind-control. Better by far to control the culture, and marginalize oil and gas as “the bad guys.”
     
    Are you serious ? Do you really believe that media are powerful & decisive in shaping the world (and US foreign policy), while oil & military are of secondary importance ?

    Do you recall- or have you read- about Nixon years & oil crisis ? About Saudis & 9/11 ?

    Which planet do you live on ?

    1. All of those countries, “Russia apart,” bend knee to the US. What an odd coincidence!
    2. The demographic situation is much worse in America (lots of Jewish power) than it is in those other countries (much less Jewish power). I don’t know why Jews keep bringing the Europe thing up; I keep knocking this floater out of the park, and Jews just keep pitching it.
     
    Do you seriously belive that UK & Germany & Italy are US puppets ?

    I have the Kremlin wall to sell ....

    Since you offered a couple of links, I’ll offer a couple of my own:

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/

    So much for “far from crucial.” I think “decisive” is the word you’re looking for. I.e., without Jews involved, we win this conflict; with Jews involved, we lose.
     
    I've seen these linx and ... ? Jews are leftist liberals, most of them, we all know this.

    Jewish influence re crucial matters we're talking about (immigration inundation, vilification of Euro-Christian civilization, adulation of 3rd worlders & Islam, attack on national identity & integrity, ..), in most West European countries is marginal. It does exist, but it is the "native" lunatic ideology & behavior that lead Western European, as well as North American countries into suicidal abyss.
    , @Druid
    Right on!
  107. Jewish argumentation is for shit. I learned that a long time ago. Hence, the speech codes; they’re much better at networking and oppression than at arguing.

    Not really true: more like, they consistently choose indefensible positions. Which is why they have to resort to the lecture + oppress dissent method.

    As for “ultra-assimilated,” we’ll know Jews are assimilated when they do to Israel what Anglos (and Jews) did to South Africa. That’s a loooong way off, IMO. Actually, this ship has already sailed, since Jews have dithered (I’m being generous) for too long already.

    I left out one crucial part: and Anglos feel comfortable being the reciprocal of the (and Jews) mentioned above. That’s also a loooong way off.

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  108. @Bardon Kaldian
    To re-post old comments is a sign of laziness. But, what can I say: I'm lazy.

    So, for the umpteenth time.

    The crucial mistake virtually all conspiracy- theories minded people make is that they try to pin-point a clearly defined group (mostly religious, ethnic, racial,..) as *the* source of major socio-cultural changes, and frequently it’s Jews (sometimes masons or something similar).

    And this is a major misfire, because no such group exists. There is no causal connexion between any ethnicity/race/… & great upheavals in the West (and in the US) in past 3-4 decades, especially re immigration debates, influx of culturally & racially foreign and inimical masses, disintegration of family & denigration of national loyalties etc. To think that a group (or groups), which is relatively easy to identify, can be the source of such monumental upheavals bespeaks of historical illiteracy.

    There was no ethnic nor ideological group of people behind such shattering revolutions & world-view changes like transition from Roman republic to Imperial Rome, Protestant Reformation, Crusades, formation of national monarchies, Enlightenment, collapse of “divine rights” of kings, imperialist expansion of European powers, national awakening in the 19th C, WW1 and WW2,… Not Jews, not masons, not Illuminati, not Rosicrucians, not some occult brotherhood residing in the Himalayas.

    Simply, Western civilization has come to a dead end
    -as it was the continuity of the 18th C Enlightenment- and we are witnessing the processes of further decay, encapsulated in famous hypothetical question ascribed to Lenin: ” Are the forces which propel us to greatness the same that will, transformed by mutations of History, eventually lead to our collapse ?”

    A man who, despite his shortcomings & delusions about the role of technology, various national cultures and their dominant currents, understood this better than most was Oswald Spengler. The Western civilizational matrix is old and tired. And this is the root of the Western decline. That what plagues the West & the US the most (race replacement, PC “liberal” ideological muzzle, hedonist emptiness & biological collapse manifested in infertility, pathological altruism, lunatic ideological fashions like n-th wave of feminism, media aggression promoting “diversity” & homosexualism- as different from homosexuality, self-hatred of European & Western culture….)-this is as present, although a bit modified, in Italy, Spain, Denmark, Norway, France, Germany, Switerland,.. as in the US. And in these countries Jewish presence in the media & the overall life is negligible or non-existent.

    Although ruling elites differ in these countries, they are a mixture of hereditary aristocracy, established bourgeois families & plutocratic oligarchs. These groups have, historically, served their countries. Now, they are morally & culturally bankrupt and serve outmoded gods whose future is annihilation- similar situation that had befallen pompous & deluded aristocrats in the 18th-19th C or imperialist jingoists in the 20th.

    The failure of nerve that comes with exhausted & geriatric social-cultural matrix is to blame, not some group conspiracy.

    But, the societal-cultural matrix is exhausted, not the people. Mr. Derbyshire’s flaw, in my opinion, is linear extrapolation of current events. He should know from history this is a fatal mistake. Just compare Europe in 1930 (cars, planes, fascism, communism, cubism, quantum mechanics, relativity, psychoanalysis, radio, tanks, films, ..) and during 1900 (technologically, scientifically, ideologically and artistically more or less the same as 1880).

    I guess I’m lazy too, because I did not bother to read your post, nor am I going to. You seemed to be talking about the illuminati or some such bullshit. As I said, yours is a strawman characterization. We – some of us at least – are not talking about secret cabals. We’re talking about ethnic self-interest pursued by certain people in tacit agreement with one another and, occasionally, in concert. That is not make-believe; it is an observable fact, and is, in fact, true.

    You believe whatever you like. I don’t care what you believe. Your opinions are obviously of little worth.

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    We – some of us at least – are not talking about secret cabals. We’re talking about ethnic self-interest pursued by certain people in tacit agreement with one another and, occasionally, in concert. That is not make-believe; it is an observable fact, and is, in fact, true.
     
    Sure. But it doesn't have a cause-effect relation you imagine it to possess. Ethnic networking exists; Jewish ethnocentrism is real; Jews in the US are powerful: but, this is not the dominant, let alone crucial element in the policies of 3rd world immigration swamping, PC muzzle, growing plutocracy & elitism, anti-Euro-American rhetoric in the academia etc.
  109. @Lot

    Which “Jews of the Bible” is another question: to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on?
     
    Given that Jews do not evangelize, and are usually even hostile to people who say they want to convert, the odds are pretty high.

    Meantime, the current Palestinians are (wild guess) maybe 70% descended from the “Jews of the Bible” of Jesus’s time. If anyone has any facts, rather than a wild guess, I’d be interested to hear them.
     
    Much lower. Modern Israel suffered from multiple depopulating wars during the long era was contested between the remnants of Alexander's army, during the rebellious years in the Roman Empire, again with the Islamic conquest and Crusades.

    Because it is a fertile coastal area with good weather, and was safe from the conflicts elsewhere in the Empire, a large portion of the Muslims in modern Israel were immigrants who came there in the 19th Century from other parts of the Ottoman Empire.

    Probably the people in the middle east besides actual Jews who are closest to the Jews of the latter parts of the Bible are the Druze and Lebanese and Syrian Christians.

    [to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on?

    Given that Jews do not evangelize, and are usually even hostile to people who say they want to convert, the odds are pretty high.]

    You seem to have missed the word “myths”, which is pretty important in the context.

    [Because it is a fertile coastal area with good weather, and was safe from the conflicts elsewhere in the Empire, a large portion of the Muslims in modern Israel were immigrants who came there in the 19th Century from other parts of the Ottoman Empire.]

    I believe this is known as “projection”. The zionists know what they themselves were up to, so hasten to accuse the other side of the same thing. Sit pro ratione voluntas.

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  110. http://www.jpost.com/US-Elections/Bret-Stephens-The-next-US-president-may-not-be-pro-Israel-444512

    “Bernie Sanders worries me. Hillary Clinton worries me. Donald Trump worries me, and frankly Ted Cruz kind of worries me too,” says Stephens.

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/94872/peter-beinarts-false-prophecy A whopping 82 percent of American Jews feel that U.S. support for Israel is either “just about right” or “not supportive enough”—and that’s just among those Jews who describe themselves as “liberal” or “very liberal.” Among those calling themselves “middle of the road,” the figure rises to 94 percent. Regarding the settlements, just 26 percent of even liberal Jews think Israel should dismantle all of them; among moderates, the figure drops to 10 percent. Generationally speaking, there even seems to be a rightward tilt among younger Jews. Consider Jerusalem: 58 percent of those between the ages of 18 and 29 oppose re-dividing it. Just 51 percent of their parents and grandparents feel the same way.

    “Political differences on the liberal-to-conservative continuum were unrelated to measures of attachment to Israel,” Sasson and his colleagues noted dryly, adding that these attitudes have pretty much held steady over 24 years of polling. Liberal as American Jews might be when it comes to domestic U.S. politics, on Israel their views tend to be fairly conservative.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2016/09/liberal-segregation-majority/

    The Daniel S. Abraham Center for Peace, a prominent liberal Zionist Israel lobbying group, purchased a full-page newspaper advertisement in Friday’s edition of the New York Times, calling for the immediate separation of Israelis and Palestinians into separate countries to keep Israel as a Jewish majority state.

    “Separation between Israelis and Palestinians is Essential. No separation today means a Palestinian majority by 2020,” warned the public service announcement.

    Israel’s population is about 20 percent Palestinian, so what the ad rejects is Israel having to be responsible for millions of more Palestinians who are now living in-not-their own state. At the same time, the head of the organization, Clinton ally former Florida Congressman Robert Wexler, denies that there is something called an occupation in the West Bank. There is the not-so-subtle Trumpian suggestions that the Palestinian citizens of Israel will be living elsewhere if the two-state solution happens. Maybe they’ll go willingly to live in a country now foreign to them. Maybe not. Remains to be seen. But this suggests large, (maybe coerced who knows?) transfers of people are the only way to ensure peace and order between Jews and Arabs, as the ad refers to them.

    Basically, Stevens want to be seen as the defender of Israel against US isolationism, but what Israel needs is to remain Jewish is to be left alone, not the US establishment’s version of pro Israel. The US’s minding its own business will lead to a fluid situation through a radical Shia overthrow of the Hashemite family dictatorship across the river. Only a Trump presidency will let Israel leave the path to a non-Jewish state that is the price of establishment US support.

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  111. @Bardon Kaldian
    Do you guys sincerely believe in all this Jewish conspiracy stuff ? In a Manichaean manner, Jews playing the role of Ahriman ? I mean- really, really believe ?

    I have the Eiffel tower to sell you ...

    It’s not a conspiracy. Problem solved for you.

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  112. @War for Blair Mountain
    Anatoly

    I find your comments very interesting for I think it touches upon the larger issue in the background:The Cold War.


    It is my view that Cold War ideology of the WASP Elites destroyed the Nation that I was born and raised in. The WASP Elites passed the Cold War football off to the Jewish Neocons who have taken it all the way to the mass murder of Conservative Orthodox Christians in the Eastern Ukraine.


    Could the Native Born White American Working Class have lived in peace with The Soviet Union. My answer is they really should have....and could have.


    I would like to hear your views and SmoothiesX1 views on my comments.


    The Ideology of The Cold War was a cancer on the Native Born White American Working Class. The real existential threat to the Native Born White American Working Class was a Kenyan Foreign Exchange Muslim student who came into the US through a NATO anti-commie Cold War Program...how ironic.

    Progressivism destroyed the nation. It was finished off in the regime of Roosevelt the Great.

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    Well..Progressivism traces back to the very unpleasant looking Elenaor's uncle Teddy.



    The WASP-DUTCH Elites were waging a scorched-earth anti-commie crusade decades before the Russian Revolution. The anti-Commie Crusade goes back at least as far back as Wat Tyler and Army of Peasants.


    Which brings me to my next point:The Alt Right....Hannibal Bateman in particular...are nostalgic for the days of Feudal Hierarchy. I submit that Progressivism....Proto-anti-commie Cold War Stage in the US....was an assault on an economically progressive-anti-war-racially xenophobic Native Born White American America First Labor Movement. At times a think the Alt Right is a variation on a theme of Coal Mining C0mpany Crush The Unions...variation 2016.


    As things stand now...The Alt Right is irrelevant to Native Born White American Working Class....When the Alt Right grows up out of its fashy haircut stage and conjures up the spirit of Bill Blizzard and his Men...only then will the Alt Right will cause the White Liberal Greedy Cheating MEGA-CEO CLASS...The most vile scum in the whole of the Universe!!!!!....to have terrifying nightmares about such wonderfull marvels of European technology such as the guillotine.
  113. @Mr. Anon
    I guess I'm lazy too, because I did not bother to read your post, nor am I going to. You seemed to be talking about the illuminati or some such bullshit. As I said, yours is a strawman characterization. We - some of us at least - are not talking about secret cabals. We're talking about ethnic self-interest pursued by certain people in tacit agreement with one another and, occasionally, in concert. That is not make-believe; it is an observable fact, and is, in fact, true.

    You believe whatever you like. I don't care what you believe. Your opinions are obviously of little worth.

    We – some of us at least – are not talking about secret cabals. We’re talking about ethnic self-interest pursued by certain people in tacit agreement with one another and, occasionally, in concert. That is not make-believe; it is an observable fact, and is, in fact, true.

    Sure. But it doesn’t have a cause-effect relation you imagine it to possess. Ethnic networking exists; Jewish ethnocentrism is real; Jews in the US are powerful: but, this is not the dominant, let alone crucial element in the policies of 3rd world immigration swamping, PC muzzle, growing plutocracy & elitism, anti-Euro-American rhetoric in the academia etc.

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    Dominant, crucial, who knows? I think the issue is that recognition precedes measurement. Recognition of this phenomenon is currently considered the exclusive reserve of anti-semetic cranks and other evil ones. This precludes a scientific approach to measuring the effects of ethnic self-interest on changes in American demographics, body politic, etc. So you shouldn't be surprised that some estimates of these parameters are wildly exaggerated.
    , @Mr. Anon
    Dominant? Crucial? Who knows. Significant - quite significant - very likely, it seems to me.
  114. @Lot

    Which “Jews of the Bible” is another question: to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on?
     
    Given that Jews do not evangelize, and are usually even hostile to people who say they want to convert, the odds are pretty high.

    Meantime, the current Palestinians are (wild guess) maybe 70% descended from the “Jews of the Bible” of Jesus’s time. If anyone has any facts, rather than a wild guess, I’d be interested to hear them.
     
    Much lower. Modern Israel suffered from multiple depopulating wars during the long era was contested between the remnants of Alexander's army, during the rebellious years in the Roman Empire, again with the Islamic conquest and Crusades.

    Because it is a fertile coastal area with good weather, and was safe from the conflicts elsewhere in the Empire, a large portion of the Muslims in modern Israel were immigrants who came there in the 19th Century from other parts of the Ottoman Empire.

    Probably the people in the middle east besides actual Jews who are closest to the Jews of the latter parts of the Bible are the Druze and Lebanese and Syrian Christians.

    “Given that Jews do not evangelise. ..”: as a matter of history, that is plain wrong. Presumably you mean that Jews do not currently evangelise. They certainly used to.

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    I believe that at around the time of Christ, active jewish proselytism was a thing. There's also the mass judaization of the idumeans.
  115. @Svigor

    Why are you talking about Cossacks and 1881 when it would be more to the point to mention Nazis and 1933-1945. That’s where their minds are trapped. Same way for neocons it’s always 1938 or ’39 and we’re Great Britain.

    But I suppose it’s a good thing that not every single page on the internet is about Nazis.
     

    The mindset's as old as Jewry. The Cossacks thing is just the earliest, prominent example in the mainstream (largely Judeo-formed) historical narrative. Then it was supplanted by Hitler and the Nazis. If someone went back in time and killed all the Nazi leaders before they became leaders, and WWII never happened, then the Jews would be back to using Cossacks as their apotheosis.

    Deep down, they are first and foremost true believers, worshiping at the altar of Egalitarianism.
     
    Nonsense. Israel makes it obvious nonsense.

    I wonder whether it’s connected to the phenomenon of people never really getting over a defeat – rejection in love, the American South forever mumbling old bones, Mexicans still smarting from the loss of their territory to America. Perhaps the difference in degree is due to Jews’ higher smarts and thus potency in this world, perhaps due to a higher-than-average sense of /their people/. Christ, I’ve heard NPR’s Ira Glass talk about ‘his people’.
     
    Wonder away. The rest of us know nobody nurses a grievance like Jews (and their cousins, other SW Asian populations). They don't call it the lachrymose history of the Jews for nothing.

    I find it funny that the "it's merit!" crowd refuse - absolutely refuse, as a general rule - to consider the possibility that Jewish racism (ethnocentrism, if you're being timid) is one of the keys to their success.

    As for "ultra-assimilated," we'll know Jews are assimilated when they do to Israel what Anglos (and Jews) did to South Africa. That's a loooong way off, IMO. Actually, this ship has already sailed, since Jews have dithered (I'm being generous) for too long already.


    Can we call them Elders of Zion, please?

    there are Elders of Zion….. in Zion

    And we’d love to have good commercial relations with a White Nationalist country

    Can someone please establish one?
     

    Oh, you're Jewish. That explains a lot. I suppose the "Karl" bit threw me. Blind spot, I guess.

    It’s just a subset, a minority, of blacks who commit murder and mayhem, and a subset, a minority, of moslems who do taharrush and terror attacks. What sort of argument/defense is this?

    Kevin MacDonald > John Derbyshire.
     

    It might as well be a law of physics: "right-wing" philo-semites will always deploy left-wing arguments in defense of Jews, willy-nilly; the same arguments they spend their time defeating in any other context. I believe the kids call this "selling out."

    As a Christian, I’m convinceed that all paranoid and hostile Jews can be redeemed, can be indeed delivered from their paranoia and hostility. (That’s the good message to the Jews.) In this respect, I’m perhaps no anti-semite – in all other respects I will accept the label humbly and without protest.
     
    I think you're describing apostasy. Not in the nominal sense, but in a real sense. To give this stuff up is to stop being a Jew, IMO. Or maybe "assimilation" would be a better term.

    Randal says:

    September 24, 2016 at 11:08 am GMT • 400 Words
     
    All great reasons why noticing and thinking need to go.

    The lousy creep who played Borat got his rear beaten by a gentile vibrant in New York City because he played one of his routines on him
     
    Jews can dig it; they just prefer rhetorical beatings, firings, whispering campaigns, shunnings, etc.

    Jews having been given such a free rein in the West it is punishable as a crime to state what I have just written in some jurisdictions – is this state of affairs truly a defensive measure? Is it not clear that this is aggression disguised as defense, vast power disguised as weakness?
     
    Good comment, but I would point out that Jewish power is both; it is vast, and fragile. It is the subverted power of others. It is soft power that depends entirely on the assent of other peoples. When Jews' good name is lost, so is their power. They know this perfectly.

    Dumb. Your own link largely opposes your claim (see the section on Y chromosomes), and the scientific consensus on genetic and historical evidence is entirely against you. Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible, and also have admixture from other regions (mostly Italy in the case of Ashkenazi Jews). This is settled science, and you are either ignorant of it or (more likely) intentionally lying.
     
    Indeed. Jews' behavior, if nothing else, is a completely obvious indication of their SW Asian ancestry.

    But lets for argument sakes say it is just the elite jews, the problem is still where did these elite jews come from ?
     
    Indeed. Every big Jew was once a small Jew. They don't spring from the eye of Zeus, fully-formed.

    I'll quote John Hartung for the umpteenth time:


    In-groups sandwich an outline for animosity, an organizing principle for prejudice, between layers of social support. Whether Christian or Muslim or Jewish, every extremist is supported by a small number of less extreme admirers and each of those supporters is buoyed, in turn, by a larger group of sympathizers. These connections are continuous right down to the bottom of the pyramid, where vaguely sympathetic in-group members are offended by the very extremists who would have no base, and no basis, without them. It is that vague sympathy which needs to be examined.
     
    There's been enough Jewish examining of everyone else to last an eon. Time for everyone else to examine the Jews.

    Do you guys sincerely believe in all this Jewish conspiracy stuff ? In a Manichaean manner, Jews playing the role of Ahriman ? I mean- really, really believe ?

    I have the Eiffel tower to sell you …
     

    If you're asking me, then the answer is "no."

    The story had all the authenticity of a fairy tale and yet here was a senior State Department official reciting ( probably for the 100th time) it as if it was the truth.
     
    The amount of bullshit in the "tales of the holocaust" is astounding. I have many of the articles in which they are imparted saved on my hard drive. For those unfamiliar, these are the narratives from survivors who go around lecturing the goyim at high schools and the like. These form a very important part of "holocaust history." If this stuff wasn't Jewish, it would be classified as superstitious nonsense. Instead, it's "history."

    In the US, Jews are not dominant in banking- overrepresented yes, but not dominant; nor are they much present in other “moneyed” fields like oil & gas or military-industrial complex. Most big US banks don’t have a strong Jewish influence; to speak of Jews among Seven sisters or Lockheed Martin is outright silly.
     
    Jewish argumentation is for shit. I learned that a long time ago. Hence, the speech codes; they're much better at networking and oppression than at arguing.

    E.g., the military-industrial complex exists at the whim of gov't, hence the Neocons. No need to bother with an otherwise boring industry like defense, where people *gag* build things. They have zero cultural power to shape opinion, anyway.

    Neither does oil and gas. Sooo boring, when you can't exert any mind-control. Better by far to control the culture, and marginalize oil and gas as "the bad guys."


    Also, media in most European countries (Germany, UK, France, Italy, Denmark, Spain,..) & Russia is in the hands of national, non-Jewish elites. And they- Russia apart- all spout the same liberal nonsense.
     
    1. All of those countries, "Russia apart," bend knee to the US. What an odd coincidence!
    2. The demographic situation is much worse in America (lots of Jewish power) than it is in those other countries (much less Jewish power). I don't know why Jews keep bringing the Europe thing up; I keep knocking this floater out of the park, and Jews just keep pitching it.

    Jews or no Jews, this is a phase of European & Europe-derived civilization with its own dynamics, causes & effects. Jewry’s influence is not negligible, but also- far from crucial. The weakness lies elsewhere.
     
    Since you offered a couple of links, I'll offer a couple of my own:

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/
    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/

    So much for "far from crucial." I think "decisive" is the word you're looking for. I.e., without Jews involved, we win this conflict; with Jews involved, we lose.

    And that's just the legislators, where Jews lag far behind their presence in other areas (like, say, buying legislators); they're much more influential in the media, finance, academia etc.


    Forgot to mention: Aid to Israel is driven hugely by the armaments business. Its aided by AIPAC’s advocacy as well. I cannot place objective weights on each, but let’s just assume 50/50 [ I think its more like 80/20 biased in the direction of the arms interests]. Take away “aid” to Israel and some other way of recycling that money will be found. Count on it.
     
    Blaming the arms industry is just the typical Jewish pattern of blaming their business partners. Junior business partners, at that (media has way more clout than the defense industry). And it is definitely one of those made-in-Hell business partnerships, make no mistake: Jewish media, academics, politicians, etc., give cultural cover to defense industry, defense industry does Zionist bidding.

    Am I being sensitive or does that sound rather insensitive?
     
    In my experience, Jews are remarkably insensitive to every sensibility but their own (which, admittedly, has come to partially encompass those of their shock troops, like blacks, mestizos, and other non-whites).

    Jewish argumentation is for shit. I learned that a long time ago. Hence, the speech codes; they’re much better at networking and oppression than at arguing.

    E.g., the military-industrial complex exists at the whim of gov’t, hence the Neocons. No need to bother with an otherwise boring industry like defense, where people *gag* build things. They have zero cultural power to shape opinion, anyway.

    Neither does oil and gas. Sooo boring, when you can’t exert any mind-control. Better by far to control the culture, and marginalize oil and gas as “the bad guys.”

    Are you serious ? Do you really believe that media are powerful & decisive in shaping the world (and US foreign policy), while oil & military are of secondary importance ?

    Do you recall- or have you read- about Nixon years & oil crisis ? About Saudis & 9/11 ?

    Which planet do you live on ?

    1. All of those countries, “Russia apart,” bend knee to the US. What an odd coincidence!
    2. The demographic situation is much worse in America (lots of Jewish power) than it is in those other countries (much less Jewish power). I don’t know why Jews keep bringing the Europe thing up; I keep knocking this floater out of the park, and Jews just keep pitching it.

    Do you seriously belive that UK & Germany & Italy are US puppets ?

    I have the Kremlin wall to sell ….

    Since you offered a couple of links, I’ll offer a couple of my own:

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/

    So much for “far from crucial.” I think “decisive” is the word you’re looking for. I.e., without Jews involved, we win this conflict; with Jews involved, we lose.

    I’ve seen these linx and … ? Jews are leftist liberals, most of them, we all know this.

    Jewish influence re crucial matters we’re talking about (immigration inundation, vilification of Euro-Christian civilization, adulation of 3rd worlders & Islam, attack on national identity & integrity, ..), in most West European countries is marginal. It does exist, but it is the “native” lunatic ideology & behavior that lead Western European, as well as North American countries into suicidal abyss.

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    Jewish influence re crucial matters we’re talking about (immigration inundation, vilification of Euro-Christian civilization, adulation of 3rd worlders & Islam, attack on national identity & integrity, ..), in most West European countries is marginal. It does exist, but it is the “native” lunatic ideology & behavior that lead Western European, as well as North American countries into suicidal abyss.
     
    What a mumbo-jumbo of words – no matter how confused the words, people who say that groups don’t try to gain control of governments are stone cold liars.

    Those who say that Jews do not control America are more the liars they are evil.

    Of course the problem with Jew control of America is that they work for another country.

    Me thinks that this guy is a ZZ (Zionist Zombie).

    Art

    p.s. Ya ya - nativism bad in Euro-peoples - good in Israel.
    , @No_0ne
    "Jewish influence re crucial matters we’re talking about (immigration inundation, vilification of Euro-Christian civilization, adulation of 3rd worlders & Islam, attack on national identity & integrity, ..), in most West European countries is marginal."

    The US had a sane immigration policy from 1924-1965. Name a NON-Jewish group that lobbied for loosening the immigration laws during that time.
  116. I do not see anything uniquely or especially Jewish about either the far-left anti-white people or elitist anti-Trump Republicans, or all that much similar to each other.

    There is certainly a Jewish flavor of white ethnomasochism, and it is as greatly distasteful as the English, Swedish or Popish varieties.

    Jewish never-Trumpers are not ethno-masochists; they’re more in line with Jewish supremacy. White never-Trumpers are the ethno-masochists.

    The Jewish flavor of ethno-masochism is rare; the White flavor of ethno-masochism (from which Jewish ethno-masochism is notably absent) is mainstream and firmly in charge.

    Just a coincidence that Streissand and Springstein are today’s prominent never-Trumpers on Drudge:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbra-streisand/facts-matter_b_12134720.html

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/springsteen-calls-trump-great-embarrassment-us-222937691.html

    P.S., “ethno-masochism” misses the mark. It’s just treachery.

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    Just a coincidence that Streissand and Springstein are today’s prominent never-Trumpers on Drudge:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbra-streisand/facts-matter_b_12134720.html

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/springsteen-calls-trump-great-embarrassment-us-222937691.html
     

    Streisand is a Jewess, while Springsteen is of Dutch Catholic origin - nothing to do with Jews.

    I have Taj Mahal to sell ....

  117. I was in Europe earlier this summer, and though I only have a bachelor’s degree, my wife has a doctorate…and none of that has anything to do with elite status in this context, as Stephens suggested in his argument. A different kind of elitism is at issue. We’ve called our elected officials “public servants” for so long, that we forget that they are our rulers, not our servants. Their elite status as power brokers is something that a trip to Europe, a graduate degree and bottle of $20 wine can’t buy. And that’s the kind of elitism we’re talking about here. But conflation reigns supreme in these types of arguments.

    I do take the view that politicians aren’t to blame for much of what’s broken in American – broken marriages, broken families, broken values – but pandering to such brokenness is something that the political elite do all the time. Hillary does this with her courting of the “black lives matter” hysteria, trying to rally a great wave of non-thinking emotion to her cause. Politicians always pander to emotion – “Holding a musket over their heads during election years, then prioritizing what lobbyists want during all other years,” as the first debater said.

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  118. “Given that Jews do not evangelise. ..”: as a matter of history, that is plain wrong. Presumably you mean that Jews do not currently evangelise. They certainly used to.

    Nowadays, Jewish evangelism is more in the Noahide vein: goyim are recruited into an inferior, subservient caste.

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  119. @Mark Green
    Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb's terrified of being labeled an 'anti-Semite'. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he's a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what's urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

    Derb’s terrified of being labeled an ‘anti-Semite’.

    Well, he is not afraid of being labeled a racist.

    Maybe that means he’s a racist, but he is not an anti-Semite.

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    Maybe that means he’s a racist, but he is not an anti-Semite.
     

    It is not strange, as the very emphasis on “anti-Semitism” is disgustingly racist, as if it were worse than racism against anyone else. People who decry “anti-Semitism”, instead of “racism” or “ethnic-prejudice”, are actually saying that there is something really special – and particularly bad – about discrimination against this one particular group. In other words, they are racists. - Israel Shamir
     
  120. “I’d not an anti-Semite; I never have been; and I don’t have much time for anti-Semites.”

    How feeble. Then why say anything on the topic at all? No wonder his generation failed so miserably to conserve anything.

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  121. @Mark Green
    Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb's terrified of being labeled an 'anti-Semite'. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he's a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what's urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

    I guess the first thing is that anyone posting in a string vice sticking your name at the top of an article needs to be guarded in making charges of cowardice. That said, I’ve never been a big Derb fan. To me, his focus rarely seems to be on what’s most important. And it’s true that like many “race realists” he is pretty UNrealistic about Jews. Moreover, the “I’ve never had much use for anti-semites” equivocations are rather irritating. It’s funny that he’s made rather unqualified criticisms of blacks–and paid a huge professional price, but is instinctively cautious when it comes to Jews. Just goes to show where the power is.

    In fact, this approach reminds me of the horrible situation at American Renaissance. There, people say whatever they want pretty much about blacks short of outright expletives. But criticism of Jews is badly received (as in comments deleted.) And any pieces that focus on Jews are explicitly positive–quite the opposite of most of what they post. Moreover, a very heavy and tolerated Hasbara presence trying to subvert the readership much of which is good but, I have to say, rather simple.

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  122. @Svigor

    I do not see anything uniquely or especially Jewish about either the far-left anti-white people or elitist anti-Trump Republicans, or all that much similar to each other.

    There is certainly a Jewish flavor of white ethnomasochism, and it is as greatly distasteful as the English, Swedish or Popish varieties.
     
    Jewish never-Trumpers are not ethno-masochists; they're more in line with Jewish supremacy. White never-Trumpers are the ethno-masochists.

    The Jewish flavor of ethno-masochism is rare; the White flavor of ethno-masochism (from which Jewish ethno-masochism is notably absent) is mainstream and firmly in charge.

    Just a coincidence that Streissand and Springstein are today's prominent never-Trumpers on Drudge:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbra-streisand/facts-matter_b_12134720.html
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/springsteen-calls-trump-great-embarrassment-us-222937691.html

    P.S., "ethno-masochism" misses the mark. It's just treachery.

    Just a coincidence that Streissand and Springstein are today’s prominent never-Trumpers on Drudge:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barbra-streisand/facts-matter_b_12134720.html

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/springsteen-calls-trump-great-embarrassment-us-222937691.html

    Streisand is a Jewess, while Springsteen is of Dutch Catholic origin – nothing to do with Jews.

    I have Taj Mahal to sell ….

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  123. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @guest
    Progressivism destroyed the nation. It was finished off in the regime of Roosevelt the Great.

    Well..Progressivism traces back to the very unpleasant looking Elenaor’s uncle Teddy.

    The WASP-DUTCH Elites were waging a scorched-earth anti-commie crusade decades before the Russian Revolution. The anti-Commie Crusade goes back at least as far back as Wat Tyler and Army of Peasants.

    Which brings me to my next point:The Alt Right….Hannibal Bateman in particular…are nostalgic for the days of Feudal Hierarchy. I submit that Progressivism….Proto-anti-commie Cold War Stage in the US….was an assault on an economically progressive-anti-war-racially xenophobic Native Born White American America First Labor Movement. At times a think the Alt Right is a variation on a theme of Coal Mining C0mpany Crush The Unions…variation 2016.

    As things stand now…The Alt Right is irrelevant to Native Born White American Working Class….When the Alt Right grows up out of its fashy haircut stage and conjures up the spirit of Bill Blizzard and his Men…only then will the Alt Right will cause the White Liberal Greedy Cheating MEGA-CEO CLASS…The most vile scum in the whole of the Universe!!!!!….to have terrifying nightmares about such wonderfull marvels of European technology such as the guillotine.

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  124. So you’re saying you have a so-called “Jewish problem” (or “Jewish question”) in the USA? Well, you White folks are already less than 50% of the population so I’d say you’re pretty dumb as It was about freaking time… The Jew outsmarted you, and it’s all a matter of genetic superiority, nothing else. Being “scientifically intelligent” is not the same as the sly cleverness of the superior Jewish soul. It’s was an enourmous success of the Jewish intelligentsia this country of yours. You agreed to not participate in the future of the World and most of you are happy about it, just think! Your national neuroses that cause you to be repulsed by Reality are your main extremely weak point, White folks of the U.S.A. You just don’t want to face reality. Your minds are abducted by the dopamine-rush culture, similarly to how a monkey’s mind may be strongly interested by a colorful Rubic’s cube, although it doesn’t understand it’s main purpose. That’s also how you watch your Hollywood movies, folks. You watch the pretty pictures but largerly miss the main purpose. Most of you and your European brothers believe in the Abrahamic mythology, which, although entirely fictitious, produced some benefits in the past and you decided to keep it. The Reality is that now it no longer produces benefits, only suffering and disillusionment. The Jew is good when he wants to destroy Christianity, but he wants to replace it with Islam and “sarcastic” materialism, which are also unreal. They’re unreal since the Jewish religion itself, like all Abrahamic religions, is a form of delusion. Freedom for the World will be reached when Abrahamic religions are entirely annihilated. Until then, the Jewish egregore will work to destroy Edom and only suffering for all sides will stem from this.

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  125. @FKA Max
    Counter-Semitism

    The Heresies of Pat Buchanan
    By Jacob Weisberg
    October 21, 1990
    Cruising for a bruising
     
    https://newrepublic.com/article/69035/the-heresies-pat-buchanan

    Joe Sobran, a syndicated columnist who was himself accused of anti-Semitism a few years ago, offers this perspective on the Pat Buchanan flap: "Jewish claims are being cut down to size in various ways. It's coded by a lot of Jews as anti-Semitism. I don't think it is. It's more like counter-Semitism.''

    Sobran says that "counter-Semitism," unlike anti-Semitism, does not seek a "negative outcome" for Jews. It is an attempt "to bring Jews down to the level of ordinary civil society." According to Sobran, he shares with Buchanan, a friend, an urge to diminish "the excessive moral prestige Jews have in the media and the public square. . . . Jews deciding the standards, setting the criteria of humanity. Since they set themselves up as the arbiter, there is, if you'll pardon the expression, a certain kill-the-umpire impulse. . . . People are looking at them and saying, come off it. This period of moral prestige has kind of ended."
     

    It is in memory of Joey Sobran, Holocaust denier and Shakespeare conspiracy theorist, that we raise a glass to kidney failure. Diabetes did a nice number on the silly hack.

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    Joe Sobran was a great journalist, not a "silly hack". He was wrong about Oxford authorship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question#Evidence_for_Shakespeare.27s_authorship_from_his_works ); also, he was not a "holocaust denier", just a more critical thinker.

    May he rest in peace.
  126. @Mark Green
    Derb is a nice fellow but he is incapable of writing boldly and honestly about any issue that involves Jews as wrongdoers. Thus, even when he ventures into this taboo-laden area, he squanders half his time back-peddling and apologizing. Is he running for public office?

    Derb understands the problem. All too well. But he lacks courage. Derb's terrified of being labeled an 'anti-Semite'. Silly boy. But this anxiety disorder affects his judgement.

    Unfortunately, America is full of public figures with this affliction. Their cravenness is part of the problem.

    The result? Derb is unable to be penetrating, straightforward and boldly critical about you-know-who and you-know-what.

    On this topic, he's a hopeless wimp.

    Sorry, Derb, but boldness and honesty are what's urgently needed right now. Yet you keep failing to deliver. This weak article proves it.

    I recommend that you read more essays by Kevin MacDonald, Gilad Aztmon, or Philip Giraldi.

    In the meantime, stick to writing about illegal immigration.

    And pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

    [If you're too lazy to bother with proper capitalization, punctuation, spacing, or spelling on your rambling comments, don't be surprised if they're just trashed. You'll have only yourself to blame: http://www.unz.com/announcement/over-one-million-comments-but-some-badly-behaving-commenters/ ]

    mark Im not so sure hes too nice i think he is like myself torn between a genuine like of many jews and what he notices from knowing jews. Im a native new yorker from a artsy intellectual upper middle class home I grew up around a lot of jews though we were catholic. Being intelligent and from that background and it being new york city i also became friendly with a lot of jew probably most of my friends. But my politics went from far left to kind of reactionary at an early age partly because nyc makes one a race realist partly im an alpha male with no patience for feminism or other faggotry so despite having all liberal friends i was always the token conservative [there wasnt the animosity there is today]one couldnt help but notice certain patterns among the really far lefties in nyc, once on my 21st birthday i was in an argument with someone much older who used the NYtimes as an appeal to authority without thinking a derisive ‘ the jew york times ‘ came out of my mouth it was 79 i may have actually coined it the room got silent for a second i was drunk and coked up and a really hot 21 years old everyone although 80% jewish quickly decided to give me a pass [luck for them lol]
    My point is even a 21 year old born and raised around jews who loved jews knew what the score was knew they were almost some variation of liberal more often than not some type of far left activist of the way we were variety. and yeah like derb i decided early on to cut them some slack although i knew it was activism against my own people i figured they thought putting together a coalition of minorities aginst the majority would give them a margin of safety. i figured i could afford it i probably assumed they would cut it out eventually.
    so even now a full on alt right neoreactionary anti cuckservative i am still loath to fuylly condemn them still hopefull they will wake up and see what they are doing. I tell the alt right better to flip them than have to fight them as well.But sadly i realize yeah sure the true beleivers might be a subset but they are their best and brightest and the others take their cues from them perhaps not understanding the game as well. i dont know what to say except wake the fuck up jews your multiculturalist marxism is not only hoisting you by your own petard the saxon is beginning to wake he knows hes been fucked and hes going to do something about it, theres no way to handle it but ethnically because leftists have framed it, jews have a tiny window to repent and declare themselves white, declare that whites too have a right to homelands where their governments govern in their interests where their culture and peoples are respected and nurtured that western countries are not the welfare office of the world that multiculturalism is an unmitigated disaster that must be reversed not stopped not slowed reversed, you can legitimately claim to be part of western civilization to be white to be Judeo Christian to be major contributors to our cultur, to be 60% genetically Italian and interbreeding at an astonishing rate.

    Or you can continue the play and even people like myself will turn on you sadly admit you can not be trusted you will never assimilate you will always put your own culture and people interests before that of your adopted homes that allowing you to have the wealth and power you have earned without being one of us is equally f not more dangerous than having savage non whites move here by the millions.

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  127. Streisand is a Jewess, while Springsteen is of Dutch Catholic origin – nothing to do with Jews.

    I have Taj Mahal to sell

    K so only 50% Jewish today, not 100%. My buss.

    SomeDude: nah. Jewish power’s way too soft to be gloated over so.

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    Svigor, it's not so soft, but that's part of the manipulation. The Jew very well uses guilt as an emotional manipulation tool, similarly to how an egoistic mother would use it to manipulate her children. When the power looks soft, destroying that power would be brutal and inhumane and would instill the White folks with guilt. If their power looked strong, destroying it would be justifiable and brave. Also, "softness" depends on context. When your average White male has the manliness of a 19th century farm girl, but your average White female has 4x the testosterone level of that farm girl, "softness" is an entirely different thing...
  128. @Bardon Kaldian

    We – some of us at least – are not talking about secret cabals. We’re talking about ethnic self-interest pursued by certain people in tacit agreement with one another and, occasionally, in concert. That is not make-believe; it is an observable fact, and is, in fact, true.
     
    Sure. But it doesn't have a cause-effect relation you imagine it to possess. Ethnic networking exists; Jewish ethnocentrism is real; Jews in the US are powerful: but, this is not the dominant, let alone crucial element in the policies of 3rd world immigration swamping, PC muzzle, growing plutocracy & elitism, anti-Euro-American rhetoric in the academia etc.

    Dominant, crucial, who knows? I think the issue is that recognition precedes measurement. Recognition of this phenomenon is currently considered the exclusive reserve of anti-semetic cranks and other evil ones. This precludes a scientific approach to measuring the effects of ethnic self-interest on changes in American demographics, body politic, etc. So you shouldn’t be surprised that some estimates of these parameters are wildly exaggerated.

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    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    Some areas are prone to measurement: take, for example, the biggest US banks & Jewish presence; biggest US media empires; oil & gas, military-industrial complexes etc. Analyze socio-political profile of most influential US public intellectuals & think-tanks; ..

    http://www.businessinsider.com/top-25-us-defense-companies-2012-2 (older stuff)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_banks_in_the_United_States
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2016/03/30/the-worlds-largest-public-oil-and-gas-companies/#23a3ad316cf1
    http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/08/28/the-illusion-of-choice-90-of-american-media-controlled-by-6-corporations/
    ...........

    Then, follow the money-the main currents shaping US economy & foreign policy. Economics, political science, sociology, demographics ... via mathematical methods that could give something tangible to work with,
  129. @gbloco
    I think that what we see in this debate from the Jewish panelists is not ATAVISM but EMANCIPATION. They apparently feel emboldened enough to lecture Christians in the most Christian country on the planet on why their religion is wrong.

    They said nothing that can get them in trouble. The idea that Jews are oriented to “right and wrong” is not new at all, and of course people will disagree and say “no that’s wrong not right”, just normal free speech.

    I found Derbyshire a lot more direct than the I2 debaters anyway, who were very elliptical as if they’ve traversed this ground a million times and know how to avoid saying everything that needs not-saying.

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  130. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    It is in memory of Joey Sobran, Holocaust denier and Shakespeare conspiracy theorist, that we raise a glass to kidney failure. Diabetes did a nice number on the silly hack.

    Joe Sobran was a great journalist, not a “silly hack”. He was wrong about Oxford authorship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question#Evidence_for_Shakespeare.27s_authorship_from_his_works ); also, he was not a “holocaust denier”, just a more critical thinker.

    May he rest in peace.

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    What a load of nonsense. His children hated him so much they dumped Sobran in a nursing home and waited for Joey's health to follow Joey's mind and morals into the abyss.
  131. @iffen
    Derb’s terrified of being labeled an ‘anti-Semite’.

    Well, he is not afraid of being labeled a racist.

    Maybe that means he's a racist, but he is not an anti-Semite.

    Maybe that means he’s a racist, but he is not an anti-Semite.

    It is not strange, as the very emphasis on “anti-Semitism” is disgustingly racist, as if it were worse than racism against anyone else. People who decry “anti-Semitism”, instead of “racism” or “ethnic-prejudice”, are actually saying that there is something really special – and particularly bad – about discrimination against this one particular group. In other words, they are racists. – Israel Shamir

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    • Replies: @iffen
    I expected more from you. Maybe you should take a couple more months off.

    Are you seriously joining the mushbrains who whine that there are other Semitic peoples so anti-Semite doesn’t mean anything?

    We don’t know what racism means because Jew haters want to re-define anti-Semitism as a special form of racism and that means that neither exists.

    Anti-Semitism exists and can be recognized. The experts on what it means are the anti-Semites.

    Racism exists and needs to recognize itself and limit the damage that it does.
  132. @Neil Templeton
    Dominant, crucial, who knows? I think the issue is that recognition precedes measurement. Recognition of this phenomenon is currently considered the exclusive reserve of anti-semetic cranks and other evil ones. This precludes a scientific approach to measuring the effects of ethnic self-interest on changes in American demographics, body politic, etc. So you shouldn't be surprised that some estimates of these parameters are wildly exaggerated.

    Some areas are prone to measurement: take, for example, the biggest US banks & Jewish presence; biggest US media empires; oil & gas, military-industrial complexes etc. Analyze socio-political profile of most influential US public intellectuals & think-tanks; ..

    http://www.businessinsider.com/top-25-us-defense-companies-2012-2 (older stuff)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_banks_in_the_United_States

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2016/03/30/the-worlds-largest-public-oil-and-gas-companies/#23a3ad316cf1

    http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/08/28/the-illusion-of-choice-90-of-american-media-controlled-by-6-corporations/

    ………..

    Then, follow the money-the main currents shaping US economy & foreign policy. Economics, political science, sociology, demographics … via mathematical methods that could give something tangible to work with,

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    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    This would be a good start. Judging from the context of arguments against the restriction of immigration, which appear from my interpretation of current MSM to be highly "moral" (appeals to emotion and authority, ad hominem) in nature, I think that the occupation of moral authority is perhaps the most important factor. An authority that is intolerant, and ruthless in pursuit and destruction of dissent. Thanks, Neil.
  133. @Bardon Kaldian
    Joe Sobran was a great journalist, not a "silly hack". He was wrong about Oxford authorship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_authorship_question#Evidence_for_Shakespeare.27s_authorship_from_his_works ); also, he was not a "holocaust denier", just a more critical thinker.

    May he rest in peace.

    What a load of nonsense. His children hated him so much they dumped Sobran in a nursing home and waited for Joey’s health to follow Joey’s mind and morals into the abyss.

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    • Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    You truly are a hateful hasbarat. What goes around comes around; looking forward to reading the spitting on your grave, creep.
    Joseph Sobran, patriot, non-dual-loyalist American, RIP.
  134. @Anatoly Karlin
    John Derbyshire, for all his fine rhetorical qualities, has a seething suspicion of a politically activized working class - writing essays against immigration is kosher, but heavens forbid you actually take it to the streets (what an "unsavory bunch"!). And dey culcha of upper class English pedophilia has to be defended at all costs, especially when it helps keep the Bear at bay and the Cossacks away.

    So this is all quite natural, really. The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew.

    “The Eternal Anglo has always been a friend to the Eternal Jew.”

    My dear Mr. Karlin, there is not just that one side; there are two sides of the Anglo regard toward Jews, exemplified by the expression, within living memory common among the English, “un-British,” which meant “Jewish.” Like another insular culture’s linguistic distinction of outsiders, “un-British” has its counterpart in the Japanese gaijin.

    There is in my experience actually a great deal more evidence of British, especially English, fond romanticizing of Arabs and even of all of Islam, than there is of English fondness for Jews and Judaism.

    William Blake’s “Jerusalem” posits the English not as the historical Jewish center of Judeo-Christian culture, but as blessed with the New Testament (New Covenant) opportunity of building “Jerusalem” as the new, English center of Western Civilization “in England’s green and pleasant land.” It is and it remains a distinctly Anglican-Protestant thesis.

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  135. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    What a load of nonsense. His children hated him so much they dumped Sobran in a nursing home and waited for Joey's health to follow Joey's mind and morals into the abyss.

    You truly are a hateful hasbarat. What goes around comes around; looking forward to reading the spitting on your grave, creep.
    Joseph Sobran, patriot, non-dual-loyalist American, RIP.

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    Joey Sobran was no patriot. Scum of the earth, maybe. He learned well what happens when you mouth off to the wrong people, he learned so well his liver went bye-bye and Joey went die-die.
  136. @Bardon Kaldian
    Some areas are prone to measurement: take, for example, the biggest US banks & Jewish presence; biggest US media empires; oil & gas, military-industrial complexes etc. Analyze socio-political profile of most influential US public intellectuals & think-tanks; ..

    http://www.businessinsider.com/top-25-us-defense-companies-2012-2 (older stuff)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_banks_in_the_United_States
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2016/03/30/the-worlds-largest-public-oil-and-gas-companies/#23a3ad316cf1
    http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/08/28/the-illusion-of-choice-90-of-american-media-controlled-by-6-corporations/
    ...........

    Then, follow the money-the main currents shaping US economy & foreign policy. Economics, political science, sociology, demographics ... via mathematical methods that could give something tangible to work with,

    This would be a good start. Judging from the context of arguments against the restriction of immigration, which appear from my interpretation of current MSM to be highly “moral” (appeals to emotion and authority, ad hominem) in nature, I think that the occupation of moral authority is perhaps the most important factor. An authority that is intolerant, and ruthless in pursuit and destruction of dissent. Thanks, Neil.

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  137. @geokat62

    Maybe that means he’s a racist, but he is not an anti-Semite.
     

    It is not strange, as the very emphasis on “anti-Semitism” is disgustingly racist, as if it were worse than racism against anyone else. People who decry “anti-Semitism”, instead of “racism” or “ethnic-prejudice”, are actually saying that there is something really special – and particularly bad – about discrimination against this one particular group. In other words, they are racists. - Israel Shamir
     

    I expected more from you. Maybe you should take a couple more months off.

    Are you seriously joining the mushbrains who whine that there are other Semitic peoples so anti-Semite doesn’t mean anything?

    We don’t know what racism means because Jew haters want to re-define anti-Semitism as a special form of racism and that means that neither exists.

    Anti-Semitism exists and can be recognized. The experts on what it means are the anti-Semites.

    Racism exists and needs to recognize itself and limit the damage that it does.

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    Anti-Semitism exists and can be recognized. The experts on what it means are the anti-Semites.
     
    I expected more from you too, iffen. You completely missed the point. I don't deny the existence of racists. They are definitely out there. But why do we have to have a separate special category for racism against Jews? Don't you find that a little redundant. If someone hates someone simply for who he is and not for what he does, he is a racist, period. No need to specify the race towards which his hatred is directed.

    On this basis, people need to change the discourse. We have to be careful of the language we use. I reject the use of the terms "antisemite" and "antisemitism." Do you?
    , @artichoke
    Why do we assume that racism is bad or that it's even reasonable to try to get rid of it? Asians are racist through and through. The whole "la Raza" movement is obviously racist. Many African Americans are racist. Everybody gets to be racist but whites?

    Not buying it.
  138. Kanye West is a Gentile; I checked. In fact, a couple of years ago he got himself in a spot of bother by telling a New York radio station that “Black people don’t have the same level of connections as Jewish people.”

    He’s not wrong.

    What? You think a state like Israel would even exist if it wasn’t for the deep connections the Jewish diaspora has in the West?

    I favor my own kids over your kids, by a mile and a half; but I don’t hate your kids, so long as they don’t come into my house uninvited.

    Heh…. the Palestinian story. Who invited these Europeans anyway?

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  139. @iffen
    I expected more from you. Maybe you should take a couple more months off.

    Are you seriously joining the mushbrains who whine that there are other Semitic peoples so anti-Semite doesn’t mean anything?

    We don’t know what racism means because Jew haters want to re-define anti-Semitism as a special form of racism and that means that neither exists.

    Anti-Semitism exists and can be recognized. The experts on what it means are the anti-Semites.

    Racism exists and needs to recognize itself and limit the damage that it does.

    Anti-Semitism exists and can be recognized. The experts on what it means are the anti-Semites.

    I expected more from you too, iffen. You completely missed the point. I don’t deny the existence of racists. They are definitely out there. But why do we have to have a separate special category for racism against Jews? Don’t you find that a little redundant. If someone hates someone simply for who he is and not for what he does, he is a racist, period. No need to specify the race towards which his hatred is directed.

    On this basis, people need to change the discourse. We have to be careful of the language we use. I reject the use of the terms “antisemite” and “antisemitism.” Do you?

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    What if who he is is highly predicated by what he is? Is racism rational? If so, why is "racist" pejorative?
    , @iffen
    We have to be careful of the language we use. I reject the use of the terms “antisemite” and “antisemitism.” Do you?

    Obviously I do not reject the term.

    It is very useful. How else can we identify Nazis and neo-Nazis? All of them are not going to dress up in colorful uniforms.

    Apparently there are racists who are not anti-Semites, so the term has its uses.

    I do agree that we need to be careful, and I admit to failing in this regard. However, I try to learn and I intend to be more accurate and precise going forward.
  140. Are you serious ? Do you really believe that media are powerful & decisive in shaping the world (and US foreign policy), while oil & military are of secondary importance ?

    Do you recall- or have you read- about Nixon years & oil crisis ? About Saudis & 9/11 ?

    Which planet do you live on ?

    Earth, you should try it some time, it’s a nice planet.

    Of course the media and academia do more to shape the world than the oil and armaments industry. What are you, high? Do you recall every other moment of history that wasn’t a brief highlight of the importance of oil or the military?

    I’ve seen these linx and … ? Jews are leftist liberals, most of them, we all know this.

    Jewish influence re crucial matters we’re talking about (immigration inundation, vilification of Euro-Christian civilization, adulation of 3rd worlders & Islam, attack on national identity & integrity, ..), in most West European countries is marginal. It does exist, but it is the “native” lunatic ideology & behavior that lead Western European, as well as North American countries into suicidal abyss.

    Right. Jews are brilliant and influential, until they aren’t. Then they’re suddenly powerless and incompetent.

    The Narrative is a Jewish Narrative. Anyone who follows the paper trail knows that.

    P.S., “immigration inundation” was the very subject of the links. There was no “most of them” there. It was all of them. Ordinary people round 95 to 99 percent to “all,” in this context.

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  141. What a load of nonsense. His children hated him so much they dumped Sobran in a nursing home and waited for Joey’s health to follow Joey’s mind and morals into the abyss.

    Well, that’s certainly relevant. Thanks for the illumination.

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    The inference that he was in a nursing home, therefore his children disliked him, is extremely weak if it exists at all.
  142. @geokat62

    Anti-Semitism exists and can be recognized. The experts on what it means are the anti-Semites.
     
    I expected more from you too, iffen. You completely missed the point. I don't deny the existence of racists. They are definitely out there. But why do we have to have a separate special category for racism against Jews? Don't you find that a little redundant. If someone hates someone simply for who he is and not for what he does, he is a racist, period. No need to specify the race towards which his hatred is directed.

    On this basis, people need to change the discourse. We have to be careful of the language we use. I reject the use of the terms "antisemite" and "antisemitism." Do you?

    What if who he is is highly predicated by what he is? Is racism rational? If so, why is “racist” pejorative?

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  143. @Bardon Kaldian

    We – some of us at least – are not talking about secret cabals. We’re talking about ethnic self-interest pursued by certain people in tacit agreement with one another and, occasionally, in concert. That is not make-believe; it is an observable fact, and is, in fact, true.
     
    Sure. But it doesn't have a cause-effect relation you imagine it to possess. Ethnic networking exists; Jewish ethnocentrism is real; Jews in the US are powerful: but, this is not the dominant, let alone crucial element in the policies of 3rd world immigration swamping, PC muzzle, growing plutocracy & elitism, anti-Euro-American rhetoric in the academia etc.

    Dominant? Crucial? Who knows. Significant – quite significant – very likely, it seems to me.

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  144. Intelligence Squared, huh? That’s what they actually call this forum? These talking-head panel-people really have a high opinion of themselves, don’t they.

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  145. Don’t worry about being labeled an anti-semite, Mr. Derbyshire, 95% of the Jews on earth don’t have a drop of Semitic blood in their bodies.

    That small minority of Jews you keep talking about is actually quite a large group…possibly numbering in the 1.5-2 million range. Who knows how big the Sayanim network is?

    As for their paranoia, it is well deserved, in my opinion…when you’re constantly trying to screw people over you’re eventually going to get what you got coming! The Jews have been expelled 119 times, from 109 countries, over the past 2,000 years…you would think that they would alter their behavior to keep that from happening again. But that’s not what we see today. What we see, especially the Ashkenazis, is the same old bad behaviors that have gotten them into trouble so many times in the past. Actually, their behaviors are a 1,000x worse than anything we’ve seen from them in the distant past. God only knows the full extent of their crimes, big and small, but we do know about some of their biggest criminal outrages…

    Communism led to the slaughter of some 60,000,000 people in Russia.

    The holocaust hoax. This is where they draw all their power to obsfucate the extent of their massive crimes. It also fueled the bloodlust that led to the systematic rape and murder of millions of inocent Germans after WWII. Still, to this day, the Germans are being looted by the Jews.

    9/11 was done by the Mossad, and other Zionist elements in the US government. The FBI helped to cover it up, along with the Sayanim in the MSM. Millions have died as a direct result of the wars spawned by 9/11…10′s of millions more were wounded and/or displaced.

    The flooding of Europe with millions of “refugees” (mostly young healthy males) in a deliberate effort to make europe less “monolithic” (less Christian) and more diverse. They have openly admitted to being behind this effort.

    When you do bad things people are going to dislike you…alot!

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  146. @Bardon Kaldian

    Jewish argumentation is for shit. I learned that a long time ago. Hence, the speech codes; they’re much better at networking and oppression than at arguing.

    E.g., the military-industrial complex exists at the whim of gov’t, hence the Neocons. No need to bother with an otherwise boring industry like defense, where people *gag* build things. They have zero cultural power to shape opinion, anyway.

    Neither does oil and gas. Sooo boring, when you can’t exert any mind-control. Better by far to control the culture, and marginalize oil and gas as “the bad guys.”
     
    Are you serious ? Do you really believe that media are powerful & decisive in shaping the world (and US foreign policy), while oil & military are of secondary importance ?

    Do you recall- or have you read- about Nixon years & oil crisis ? About Saudis & 9/11 ?

    Which planet do you live on ?

    1. All of those countries, “Russia apart,” bend knee to the US. What an odd coincidence!
    2. The demographic situation is much worse in America (lots of Jewish power) than it is in those other countries (much less Jewish power). I don’t know why Jews keep bringing the Europe thing up; I keep knocking this floater out of the park, and Jews just keep pitching it.
     
    Do you seriously belive that UK & Germany & Italy are US puppets ?

    I have the Kremlin wall to sell ....

    Since you offered a couple of links, I’ll offer a couple of my own:

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/

    So much for “far from crucial.” I think “decisive” is the word you’re looking for. I.e., without Jews involved, we win this conflict; with Jews involved, we lose.
     
    I've seen these linx and ... ? Jews are leftist liberals, most of them, we all know this.

    Jewish influence re crucial matters we're talking about (immigration inundation, vilification of Euro-Christian civilization, adulation of 3rd worlders & Islam, attack on national identity & integrity, ..), in most West European countries is marginal. It does exist, but it is the "native" lunatic ideology & behavior that lead Western European, as well as North American countries into suicidal abyss.

    Jewish influence re crucial matters we’re talking about (immigration inundation, vilification of Euro-Christian civilization, adulation of 3rd worlders & Islam, attack on national identity & integrity, ..), in most West European countries is marginal. It does exist, but it is the “native” lunatic ideology & behavior that lead Western European, as well as North American countries into suicidal abyss.

    What a mumbo-jumbo of words – no matter how confused the words, people who say that groups don’t try to gain control of governments are stone cold liars.

    Those who say that Jews do not control America are more the liars they are evil.

    Of course the problem with Jew control of America is that they work for another country.

    Me thinks that this guy is a ZZ (Zionist Zombie).

    Art

    p.s. Ya ya – nativism bad in Euro-peoples – good in Israel.

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  147. @5371
    Bullshit, hasbara boy. The Jews are like the modern "Assyrians" - the residue of a religious community pretending to be an ethnic group, and dressing themselves up in stolen feathers. Your interlocutor is entirely right about the evidence, and you are woefully wrong.

    You again? No less than Greg Cochrane himself said you were bullshitting in the other thread. You cling to something that has definitvely been proven false by Y-chromosomal evidence for some unknown reason. There must be something really pathetic in your life that you are so invested in believing something that has been demonstrated to be false. Oh well, I suppose I should follow Sam Harris’ advice and feel sorry for you – after all you didn’t choose your brain or whatever chemical imbalance and/or previous states that led to this.

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    Who cares? A direct genetic link to the arguably most conflict plagued sector of the planet should not imply a direct passport to moral authority and judgment over conflict resolution.
    , @5371
    Nothing like the appeal to a dubious authority whose name you can't even manage to spell correctly if you want to win an argument, eh, hasbara boy? Even better than your usual technique of simply reiterating nonsense. I think Dr. Freud has some breathing space yet before you can take away his laurels as most famous Jewish psychoanalyst.
  148. @dearieme
    "Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible": as I understand it, Ashkenazis are about 50% descended from people of the Near East, who may or may not have been "Jews of the Bible", but it would be unsurprising if they were. Which "Jews of the Bible" is another question: to what extent were the Jews in Judea and Galilee at the time of Jesus effectively the same people as the Jews who feature in the myths of Moses, Solomon, and so on? In fact, is there any sense in asking about the relationship between real, historical people, and people who occur in myths?

    Meantime, the current Palestinians are (wild guess) maybe 70% descended from the "Jews of the Bible" of Jesus's time. If anyone has any facts, rather than a wild guess, I'd be interested to hear them.

    Current “Palestinians” aka the run-of-the-mill Arabs who adopted the name Palestinians in the 1970s, are a result of a heavy influx of people from the Arabian peninsula, mixed with probably a vestigial line that was present when the Arabs invaded. When they think Westerners aren’t listening Palestinians actually wax poetic about their ancestors who invaded. Palestinian Prime Minister Saeb Erakat was bragging about his family’s origins in Saudi Arabia – there is a region or town they are named after – a while back.

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  149. @dearieme
    "Given that Jews do not evangelise. ..": as a matter of history, that is plain wrong. Presumably you mean that Jews do not currently evangelise. They certainly used to.

    I believe that at around the time of Christ, active jewish proselytism was a thing. There’s also the mass judaization of the idumeans.

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  150. @Svigor

    Why are you talking about Cossacks and 1881 when it would be more to the point to mention Nazis and 1933-1945. That’s where their minds are trapped. Same way for neocons it’s always 1938 or ’39 and we’re Great Britain.

    But I suppose it’s a good thing that not every single page on the internet is about Nazis.
     

    The mindset's as old as Jewry. The Cossacks thing is just the earliest, prominent example in the mainstream (largely Judeo-formed) historical narrative. Then it was supplanted by Hitler and the Nazis. If someone went back in time and killed all the Nazi leaders before they became leaders, and WWII never happened, then the Jews would be back to using Cossacks as their apotheosis.

    Deep down, they are first and foremost true believers, worshiping at the altar of Egalitarianism.
     
    Nonsense. Israel makes it obvious nonsense.

    I wonder whether it’s connected to the phenomenon of people never really getting over a defeat – rejection in love, the American South forever mumbling old bones, Mexicans still smarting from the loss of their territory to America. Perhaps the difference in degree is due to Jews’ higher smarts and thus potency in this world, perhaps due to a higher-than-average sense of /their people/. Christ, I’ve heard NPR’s Ira Glass talk about ‘his people’.
     
    Wonder away. The rest of us know nobody nurses a grievance like Jews (and their cousins, other SW Asian populations). They don't call it the lachrymose history of the Jews for nothing.

    I find it funny that the "it's merit!" crowd refuse - absolutely refuse, as a general rule - to consider the possibility that Jewish racism (ethnocentrism, if you're being timid) is one of the keys to their success.

    As for "ultra-assimilated," we'll know Jews are assimilated when they do to Israel what Anglos (and Jews) did to South Africa. That's a loooong way off, IMO. Actually, this ship has already sailed, since Jews have dithered (I'm being generous) for too long already.


    Can we call them Elders of Zion, please?

    there are Elders of Zion….. in Zion

    And we’d love to have good commercial relations with a White Nationalist country

    Can someone please establish one?
     

    Oh, you're Jewish. That explains a lot. I suppose the "Karl" bit threw me. Blind spot, I guess.

    It’s just a subset, a minority, of blacks who commit murder and mayhem, and a subset, a minority, of moslems who do taharrush and terror attacks. What sort of argument/defense is this?

    Kevin MacDonald > John Derbyshire.
     

    It might as well be a law of physics: "right-wing" philo-semites will always deploy left-wing arguments in defense of Jews, willy-nilly; the same arguments they spend their time defeating in any other context. I believe the kids call this "selling out."

    As a Christian, I’m convinceed that all paranoid and hostile Jews can be redeemed, can be indeed delivered from their paranoia and hostility. (That’s the good message to the Jews.) In this respect, I’m perhaps no anti-semite – in all other respects I will accept the label humbly and without protest.
     
    I think you're describing apostasy. Not in the nominal sense, but in a real sense. To give this stuff up is to stop being a Jew, IMO. Or maybe "assimilation" would be a better term.

    Randal says:

    September 24, 2016 at 11:08 am GMT • 400 Words
     
    All great reasons why noticing and thinking need to go.

    The lousy creep who played Borat got his rear beaten by a gentile vibrant in New York City because he played one of his routines on him
     
    Jews can dig it; they just prefer rhetorical beatings, firings, whispering campaigns, shunnings, etc.

    Jews having been given such a free rein in the West it is punishable as a crime to state what I have just written in some jurisdictions – is this state of affairs truly a defensive measure? Is it not clear that this is aggression disguised as defense, vast power disguised as weakness?
     
    Good comment, but I would point out that Jewish power is both; it is vast, and fragile. It is the subverted power of others. It is soft power that depends entirely on the assent of other peoples. When Jews' good name is lost, so is their power. They know this perfectly.

    Dumb. Your own link largely opposes your claim (see the section on Y chromosomes), and the scientific consensus on genetic and historical evidence is entirely against you. Contemporary Jews are genetically continuous with the Jews of the Bible, and also have admixture from other regions (mostly Italy in the case of Ashkenazi Jews). This is settled science, and you are either ignorant of it or (more likely) intentionally lying.
     
    Indeed. Jews' behavior, if nothing else, is a completely obvious indication of their SW Asian ancestry.

    But lets for argument sakes say it is just the elite jews, the problem is still where did these elite jews come from ?
     
    Indeed. Every big Jew was once a small Jew. They don't spring from the eye of Zeus, fully-formed.

    I'll quote John Hartung for the umpteenth time:


    In-groups sandwich an outline for animosity, an organizing principle for prejudice, between layers of social support. Whether Christian or Muslim or Jewish, every extremist is supported by a small number of less extreme admirers and each of those supporters is buoyed, in turn, by a larger group of sympathizers. These connections are continuous right down to the bottom of the pyramid, where vaguely sympathetic in-group members are offended by the very extremists who would have no base, and no basis, without them. It is that vague sympathy which needs to be examined.
     
    There's been enough Jewish examining of everyone else to last an eon. Time for everyone else to examine the Jews.

    Do you guys sincerely believe in all this Jewish conspiracy stuff ? In a Manichaean manner, Jews playing the role of Ahriman ? I mean- really, really believe ?

    I have the Eiffel tower to sell you …
     

    If you're asking me, then the answer is "no."

    The story had all the authenticity of a fairy tale and yet here was a senior State Department official reciting ( probably for the 100th time) it as if it was the truth.
     
    The amount of bullshit in the "tales of the holocaust" is astounding. I have many of the articles in which they are imparted saved on my hard drive. For those unfamiliar, these are the narratives from survivors who go around lecturing the goyim at high schools and the like. These form a very important part of "holocaust history." If this stuff wasn't Jewish, it would be classified as superstitious nonsense. Instead, it's "history."

    In the US, Jews are not dominant in banking- overrepresented yes, but not dominant; nor are they much present in other “moneyed” fields like oil & gas or military-industrial complex. Most big US banks don’t have a strong Jewish influence; to speak of Jews among Seven sisters or Lockheed Martin is outright silly.
     
    Jewish argumentation is for shit. I learned that a long time ago. Hence, the speech codes; they're much better at networking and oppression than at arguing.

    E.g., the military-industrial complex exists at the whim of gov't, hence the Neocons. No need to bother with an otherwise boring industry like defense, where people *gag* build things. They have zero cultural power to shape opinion, anyway.

    Neither does oil and gas. Sooo boring, when you can't exert any mind-control. Better by far to control the culture, and marginalize oil and gas as "the bad guys."


    Also, media in most European countries (Germany, UK, France, Italy, Denmark, Spain,..) & Russia is in the hands of national, non-Jewish elites. And they- Russia apart- all spout the same liberal nonsense.
     
    1. All of those countries, "Russia apart," bend knee to the US. What an odd coincidence!
    2. The demographic situation is much worse in America (lots of Jewish power) than it is in those other countries (much less Jewish power). I don't know why Jews keep bringing the Europe thing up; I keep knocking this floater out of the park, and Jews just keep pitching it.

    Jews or no Jews, this is a phase of European & Europe-derived civilization with its own dynamics, causes & effects. Jewry’s influence is not negligible, but also- far from crucial. The weakness lies elsewhere.
     
    Since you offered a couple of links, I'll offer a couple of my own:

    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/
    https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/1509/

    So much for "far from crucial." I think "decisive" is the word you're looking for. I.e., without Jews involved, we win this conflict; with Jews involved, we lose.

    And that's just the legislators, where Jews lag far behind their presence in other areas (like, say, buying legislators); they're much more influential in the media, finance, academia etc.


    Forgot to mention: Aid to Israel is driven hugely by the armaments business. Its aided by AIPAC’s advocacy as well. I cannot place objective weights on each, but let’s just assume 50/50 [ I think its more like 80/20 biased in the direction of the arms interests]. Take away “aid” to Israel and some other way of recycling that money will be found. Count on it.
     
    Blaming the arms industry is just the typical Jewish pattern of blaming their business partners. Junior business partners, at that (media has way more clout than the defense industry). And it is definitely one of those made-in-Hell business partnerships, make no mistake: Jewish media, academics, politicians, etc., give cultural cover to defense industry, defense industry does Zionist bidding.

    Am I being sensitive or does that sound rather insensitive?
     
    In my experience, Jews are remarkably insensitive to every sensibility but their own (which, admittedly, has come to partially encompass those of their shock troops, like blacks, mestizos, and other non-whites).

    Right on!

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  151. @KenH

    Is it not clear that this is aggression disguised as defense, vast power disguised as weakness?
     
    By way of deception thou shalt do war. This is the motto of the Mossad but could also be the modus operandi of Jews living in the diaspora.

    > By way of deception thou shalt do war. This is the motto of the Mossad

    and that of the British Special Boat Squadrons is: “not by strength, but by guile”

    Perhaps great minds run in the same direction

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  152. @Anonymous Smith
    Don't worry about being labeled an anti-semite, Mr. Derbyshire, 95% of the Jews on earth don't have a drop of Semitic blood in their bodies.

    That small minority of Jews you keep talking about is actually quite a large group...possibly numbering in the 1.5-2 million range. Who knows how big the Sayanim network is?

    As for their paranoia, it is well deserved, in my opinion...when you're constantly trying to screw people over you're eventually going to get what you got coming! The Jews have been expelled 119 times, from 109 countries, over the past 2,000 years...you would think that they would alter their behavior to keep that from happening again. But that's not what we see today. What we see, especially the Ashkenazis, is the same old bad behaviors that have gotten them into trouble so many times in the past. Actually, their behaviors are a 1,000x worse than anything we've seen from them in the distant past. God only knows the full extent of their crimes, big and small, but we do know about some of their biggest criminal outrages...

    Communism led to the slaughter of some 60,000,000 people in Russia.

    The holocaust hoax. This is where they draw all their power to obsfucate the extent of their massive crimes. It also fueled the bloodlust that led to the systematic rape and murder of millions of inocent Germans after WWII. Still, to this day, the Germans are being looted by the Jews.

    9/11 was done by the Mossad, and other Zionist elements in the US government. The FBI helped to cover it up, along with the Sayanim in the MSM. Millions have died as a direct result of the wars spawned by 9/11...10's of millions more were wounded and/or displaced.

    The flooding of Europe with millions of "refugees" (mostly young healthy males) in a deliberate effort to make europe less "monolithic" (less Christian) and more diverse. They have openly admitted to being behind this effort.

    When you do bad things people are going to dislike you...alot!

    Yup

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  153. @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    You truly are a hateful hasbarat. What goes around comes around; looking forward to reading the spitting on your grave, creep.
    Joseph Sobran, patriot, non-dual-loyalist American, RIP.

    Joey Sobran was no patriot. Scum of the earth, maybe. He learned well what happens when you mouth off to the wrong people, he learned so well his liver went bye-bye and Joey went die-die.

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    You are a child.
    , @iffen
    Joey Sobran was no patriot. Scum of the earth, maybe.

    Do you have any concise quotes or writings of his that you wish to share in order to back up this opinion?
    , @Art
    Joey Sobran was no patriot. Scum of the earth, maybe. He learned well what happens when you mouth off to the wrong people, he learned so well his liver went bye-bye and Joey went die-die.

    Oh my - here we see a Zionist Zombie on steroids.

    The irrational hate for humanity instilled in him by his parents just drips out of him with every word.

    Clearly he is a victim of his mean culture. What kind of a sick culture traumatizes its children with abject fear of humanity?

    p.s. Joe Sobran was a great writer. His articles were always interesting – seldom where they a copycat of the existing folderol of the day.
    , @No_0ne
    That's quite a pathetic display of hate-filled semitism there.
  154. Per Kevin MacDonald:

    “In writing The Culture of Critique I was continually struck by the expressions of hostility against the West by very prominent Jewish intellectual figures. Sigmund Freud’s Hannibal fantasy of being a military leader attempting to destroy Rome to avenge anti-Jewish slurs against his father is perhaps the best known, but it barely scratches the surface. Wolseley seems to agree with me that this deep wellspring of hostility may have been an important motivation of Stalin’s willing executioners in the USSR.

    “But we should not forget that such hostility was quite characteristic among Jewish radicals in America and that radicalism was a very mainstream movement among American Jews. Consider for example, this quotation in the chapter on Jewish involvement in the left from sociologist Seymour Martin Lipset: many of these ‘red diaper babies’ came from ‘families which around the breakfast table, day after day, in Scarsdale, Newton, Great Neck, and Beverly Hills have discussed what an awful, corrupt, immoral, undemocratic, racist society the United States is’ (Cultural Insurrections, pp. 219–20).

    “Consider also Princeton University sociologist Michael Walzer’s description of the ‘pathologies of Jewish life’: ‘the sense that “all the world is against us,” the resulting fear, resentment, and hatred of the goy, the secret dreams of reversal and triumph’ (p. 218).”

    [from "A Necessary Reply," The Occidental Quarterly, vol. 8, no. 1 (Spring 2008)]

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  155. @biz
    You again? No less than Greg Cochrane himself said you were bullshitting in the other thread. You cling to something that has definitvely been proven false by Y-chromosomal evidence for some unknown reason. There must be something really pathetic in your life that you are so invested in believing something that has been demonstrated to be false. Oh well, I suppose I should follow Sam Harris' advice and feel sorry for you - after all you didn't choose your brain or whatever chemical imbalance and/or previous states that led to this.

    Who cares? A direct genetic link to the arguably most conflict plagued sector of the planet should not imply a direct passport to moral authority and judgment over conflict resolution.

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  156. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    Joey Sobran was no patriot. Scum of the earth, maybe. He learned well what happens when you mouth off to the wrong people, he learned so well his liver went bye-bye and Joey went die-die.

    You are a child.

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  157. @biz
    You again? No less than Greg Cochrane himself said you were bullshitting in the other thread. You cling to something that has definitvely been proven false by Y-chromosomal evidence for some unknown reason. There must be something really pathetic in your life that you are so invested in believing something that has been demonstrated to be false. Oh well, I suppose I should follow Sam Harris' advice and feel sorry for you - after all you didn't choose your brain or whatever chemical imbalance and/or previous states that led to this.

    Nothing like the appeal to a dubious authority whose name you can’t even manage to spell correctly if you want to win an argument, eh, hasbara boy? Even better than your usual technique of simply reiterating nonsense. I think Dr. Freud has some breathing space yet before you can take away his laurels as most famous Jewish psychoanalyst.

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  158. They probably thought it was 1881 or 1933 after stumbling on to the comments section here.

    The conservatives most unhinged about Trump haven’t been Jews, actually. For example:

    The Blaze founder Glenn Beck has weighed in on Texas Senator Ted Cruz’s endorsement of Republican nominee Donald Trump, writing that “[d]isappointment does not begin to describe” his feelings about Cruz’s endorsement of his former primary rival.
    Beck posted the following to his Facebook page:

    Profoundly sad day for me.

    Disappointment does not begin to describe.

    Maybe it is time to go to the mountains for a while. (Read below and notice the knives prodding that direction)
    Again, disappointment doesn’t begin to describe my feelings.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/23/glenn-beck-profoundly-sad-cruz-endorsement-trump-maybe-time-go-mountains/

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  159. @tamako
    The best way forward for a small, well-connected minority is to align with the dominant ethnic group and go forth from there. This is actually the best way forward for the Jews, and why they don't simply do this is something I don't understand. Any Jew who doesn't want to do this is free to move to Israel - surely the said Jew also wouldn't want the Palestinian Arabs to out number the Israeli Jews?

    The Jews are fighting an unending war to prevent 1933 from ever happening again, never mind that they've successfully associated Judaism with (Catholic, and European Protestant) Christianity, that Islam is arguably the most "anti-Semitic" religion out there, that they'd paint themselves into a corner by not looking like the dominant goyim.

    This is like setting fire to an oil rig - and its lifeboats - in the North Sea.

    “The best way forward for a small, well-connected minority is to align with the dominant ethnic group and go forth from there. This is actually the best way forward for the Jews, and why they don’t simply do this is something I don’t understand.”

    Like the Chinese oligarch’s Guanxi in SE Asia? US Jews have already been doing this for years (English names, best friends/sponsors of leading Democrat and Republican dynasties – Clinton & Bush + sponsoring Congressmen across the board).

    I think the problem is their fascination with the success (from their point of view) of the Bolshevik Jews in Russia who exacted a massive revenge against native Russians and Ukrainians while establishing their own Jewish aristocracy. This is such an enticing prospect but requires weakening Anglo US society sufficiently to enable a successful Coup.

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    "...their fascination with the success (from their point of view) of the Bolshevik Jews in Russia who exacted a massive revenge against native Russians and Ukrainians while establishing their own Jewish aristocracy."

    Therefore the curious situation when the Russophobic Masha Gessen extolls the Belorussian Nobel Prize laureate in journalism (?!) Svetlana Alexievich who writes in Russian (btw, who knows Ms. Alexevich' works?), while the name of Alexander Solzhenitsyn, a Nobel Prize laureate in Literature, has become shunned in the West and his important documentary about the history of Jewish people in Russia, "Two Hundred Years Together," has been sequestered by the British and American publishing houses. There are well-documented facts about atrocities committed by Bolshevik Jews - on a horrendously massive scale - against native Russians and Ukrainians; these acts were as sadistic as the Nazis' actions against non-Aryans. The undeniable facts of exceptional prominence of Bolshevik Jews in the Russian revolution, Civil War, and Purges make the profitable status of special Jewish victimhood go in flames.
  160. @Sam Shama
    I was raised and educated in the U.K. and consider myself a bit of a monarchist. I am jewish. My question is, how does this character you were crossing words with, have anonymous commenters prosecuted?

    With the resources of the state it isn’t difficult, I understand, to identify who is behind supposedly anonymous tags, but I don’t know the ins and outs of how they go about it. I suspect most major internet organisations will provide information to the police when told it’s in relation to a “criminal investigation”. There are procedures and structures put in place to deal with really nasty stuff (child porn, terrorism etc). We don’t have the kinds of protection for speech and privacy that they have in the US, and such matters are far less transparent.

    Here’s the individual in question boasting about the process and gloating about some of his other victims:

    And yes, I know you’re still waiting. Unfortunately, the process that is currently being worked through runs slower than a snail’s pace. It involves a huge amount of co-ordination between CAA, up to three police forces (the recipient of the original complaint, your local force and the force where the antisemitism czar is based) and the CPS. Oh, and me and several other Jewish people who read your comments too……….So far, two of the five people under investigation have been arrested and questioned. One of them (David Carter – Cardiff’s answer to Adolf Hitler) is still spewing out the same hate-speech on twitter (@splottdave), whilst the second one (Samantha Blair in Thurso – @ValhallaSam) has had a meltdown whilst waiting to be charged. I wonder which way you’ll go when the ‘reality’ that you keep banging on about, but about which you have no concept, eventually kicks in.

    Usually I’d just dismiss this kind of thing as internet trolling, but I take this one seriously for two reasons. First I know there has been a move towards starting to enforce “hate speech” repression laws at the highest levels, and second he posted on Disqus about having discussed “my case” in a meeting with the Assistant Chief Constable responsible for this process nationally just before the apparatchik in question announced on Twitter that he’d had such a meeting. Too close for a coincidence.

    My suspicion is that he just doesn’t understand the issues involved, and that the CPS and politicians won’t fancy trying to extend their speech control laws to political discussion comments on small political discussion forums just yet (so far they are just going for people who shout abusive racist terms and rant about violent solutions on the big platforms such as Twitter, Facebook etc,, in order to get the rules bedded in and principles accepted, as far as I can tell).

    A lot depends on how far the new Home Secretary wants to push the issue. Theresa May, I think, was well known for being personally authoritarian and was enthusiastically behind enforcing such laws if she could get away with it.

    Bottom line is I don’t look forward to the hassles that would be involved in the process, but I’m interested to see how far they can take it, and am quite happy to plead not guilty and take whatever comes. I’m retired and my children are grown up, so I can afford to go to prison for a spell if that’s what it comes down to. Certainly I won’t be pleading guilty or apologising, under any circumstances, even if the legal advice were to be that defeat is certain.

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    I read through the thread you linked and bluntly put, rarely have I encountered a vile piece of work as this blighter 'robbersdog' appears to be. I was struck; not so much by his disdain for the notion of free speech - which is evident enough - but the unconcealed glee he positively displays in prosecuting police and legal action against an anonymous internet poster.

    Tbh, being Jewish I've felt offended in the past, intensely so I daresay, when I was confronted by an interlocutor, who among other things, spoke of 'off'ing well known jewish persons. Nonetheless, it took only a little reflection on my part, to realise that both he and I were terribly incensed by the other, and things got a bit out of hand. Calmer attitudes prevailed thereafter. Which is not to say we don't cross cross words anymore, we do, but an overall detente exists. :-)

    I moved to the U.S. sixteen years ago, and never reckoned the 1st Amendment emphatically remarkable, as surely none from the Anglosphere would; but today, I should barely recognise an U.K., indeed an England, if Common law and the Crown's Prosecution pursues a man for simply speaking his opinion. That truly is the thin end of the wedge, and must deserve unqualified rejection. Accordingly, I am certain the final word on the matter will be true to U.K's tradition, and this outrage shall not gain any purchase.

  161. @Neil Templeton
    Thanks for the response. I didn't realize that opinions were legally actionable in the UK.

    I didn’t realize that opinions were legally actionable in the UK.

    See my reply to Sam Shama above. It’s something that’s gradually becoming more common, starting with the easy targets (people who post violent or gratuitously offensive rants on Twitter, Facebook etc) in order to establish precedents and get people accustomed to the idea.

    In the long run, though, the identity lobbyists are openly salivating at the prospect of making all their pet hate opinions and arguments illegal even to express. You can get some idea of the sheer extent of what the elites and lobbyists consider “anti-Semitic discourse” in last year’s report of the Parliamentary committee on antisemitism:

    http://www.antisemitism.org.uk/wp-content/themes/PCAA/images/4189_PCAA_Antisemitism%20Report_spreads_v9%20REPRO-DPS_FOR%20WEB_v3.pdf

    If you are in the US you might be entitled to some feeling of smugness about your own First Amendment. Indeed I grew up believing that such written protections were unnecessary and not needed in my own country. I was wrong – I failed to foresee the scale and sheer, flagrant hypocrisy of the left’s turn from defending freedom of speech to actively promoting the open suppression of dissent in the past few decades. But I suspect I was correct that your written constitution won’t in practice protect you much better. I foresee a “hate speech” exception to the US’s free speech protections being adopted by your Supreme Court within a decade or two – sooner if Clinton wins this time.

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  162. @geokat62

    Anti-Semitism exists and can be recognized. The experts on what it means are the anti-Semites.
     
    I expected more from you too, iffen. You completely missed the point. I don't deny the existence of racists. They are definitely out there. But why do we have to have a separate special category for racism against Jews? Don't you find that a little redundant. If someone hates someone simply for who he is and not for what he does, he is a racist, period. No need to specify the race towards which his hatred is directed.

    On this basis, people need to change the discourse. We have to be careful of the language we use. I reject the use of the terms "antisemite" and "antisemitism." Do you?

    We have to be careful of the language we use. I reject the use of the terms “antisemite” and “antisemitism.” Do you?

    Obviously I do not reject the term.

    It is very useful. How else can we identify Nazis and neo-Nazis? All of them are not going to dress up in colorful uniforms.

    Apparently there are racists who are not anti-Semites, so the term has its uses.

    I do agree that we need to be careful, and I admit to failing in this regard. However, I try to learn and I intend to be more accurate and precise going forward.

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    It is very useful. How else can we identify Nazis and neo-Nazis?
     
    If we accept that no people are superior to others, we just need to identify them as racists and neo-racists.
    , @Rich
    But why is it necessary to identify Nazis or neo-Nazis or anti-Semites or Racists? Who cares what someone, in their private life, thinks about another race or culture? I think it's more important to avoid the implementation of "thought-crimes." If someone assaults a Rabbi who cares what his motivation was? What should matter is only the fact of the assault. We have crossed a dangerous line with the passage of "hate crime" legislation that, in my opinion, violate the US Constitution's Freedom of Speech guarantees. Right now certain groups believe they are benefiting from this legislation, I can foresee this legislation easily being turned against them in the future.
    Actions, not thoughts, are what should matter.
  163. @Svigor

    Streisand is a Jewess, while Springsteen is of Dutch Catholic origin – nothing to do with Jews.

    I have Taj Mahal to sell
     
    K so only 50% Jewish today, not 100%. My buss.

    SomeDude: nah. Jewish power's way too soft to be gloated over so.

    Svigor, it’s not so soft, but that’s part of the manipulation. The Jew very well uses guilt as an emotional manipulation tool, similarly to how an egoistic mother would use it to manipulate her children. When the power looks soft, destroying that power would be brutal and inhumane and would instill the White folks with guilt. If their power looked strong, destroying it would be justifiable and brave. Also, “softness” depends on context. When your average White male has the manliness of a 19th century farm girl, but your average White female has 4x the testosterone level of that farm girl, “softness” is an entirely different thing…

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  164. But it is 1881 and the Cossacks are coming and we are assimilating and disappearing as fast as we can. Let some other folks be the Jews the next time around.

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  165. @Sam Shama
    Hi Geo,
    I missed it as well adelfós, philosophical Greeks being a pain and I being a masochist for ethno-political vernacular! :-)

    As I recall [at least that is my position] I remarked that many jews, especially the ones that contribute to AIPAC are zionists in varying degrees. There are a 100k members, about a 1000 unreasonably wealthy. The most prominent ones like Saban and Adelson are extreme zionists. How does one go about preventing anyone from contributing to their chosen advocacy group? You tell me. If FARA is applicable, so be it. However I don't see it happening.

    I'd say most American Jews are not preoccupied with Israel but impressions are driven by a vocal minority of busybodies. Silence them, quieten their strident tones using your equal right to voice the contrary, and mission accomplished you shall have.

    How does one go about preventing anyone from contributing to their chosen advocacy group? You tell me.

    I’m glad you asked, Sam. You once admitted that Jews, including yourself, send your monthly cheques, “automaton,” to AIPAC.

    As I indicated previously, I just finished reading GA’s The Wondering Who? The passage that struck me the most was the tale Atzom recounted about his military service in the summer of 1984, in Lebanon. He visited Ansar, a notorious Israeli internment camp in the south of Lebanon. This experience “changed his life completely”:

    I confronted the officer about these horrible concrete dog cubes.

    He was quick to reply: ‘These are our solitary confinement blocks; after two days in one of these, you become a devoted Zionist!’ This was enough for me. I realised that my affair with the Israeli state and with Zionism was over. Yet I still knew very little about Palestine, about the Nakba or even about Judaism and Jewish-ness, for that matter. I only saw then that, as far as I was concerned, Israel was bad news, and I didn’t want to have anything further to do with it. Two weeks later I returned my uniform, grabbed my alto sax, took the bus to Ben-Gurion Airport and left for Europe…

    I’m sure you, and most of your co-religionists, are aware of the Ansar internment camp. So to answer your question about “preventing people from contributing to their chosen advocacy group,” why would you and other American Jews send in their monthly cheques if they know they are underwriting a regime that treats other human beings in this manner? More specifically, how can you go about your days bragging about eating the finest foods, drinking the finest wines, wearing the finest clothes, while knowing that your monthly cheques are underwriting the death of half a million innocent Iraqi children, the deaths of over a million innocent Muslims in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somolia, etc., executing PNAC’s Plan to remake the ME to secure the villa in the jungle… a villa that treats other human beings in such a deplorable manner?

    Here’s my simple solution: I no longer think getting AIPAC registered under FARA will do anything. A more feasible solution lies with The Community. If you are ostensibly opposed to all this death and destruction, you and others must convince TC to stop sending their cheques, automaton or not, to AIPAC. If you don’t, you and others have to live with the fact that you are responsible, in part, for those horrible concrete dog cubes.

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    • Replies: @artichoke
    The existence of a specific prison in a specific war on Israel's border does not mean there is broad Israeli support for all the disruption going on in the middle east now. Do you have some direct proof there is? Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi etc. were not attacking Israel. ISIS which is taking their place very well might.
    , @Sam Shama
    Yes, I do agree with stopping financial support of AIPAC, having done so personally last year and convincing a good 10% of my congregation to do so as well. The mission continues. About the Ansar internment camp, I have no firsthand knowledge, and should therefore expect the broad cross-section of American Jews to have none at all. That it is repressive and deplorable, I have no trouble believing, a feature most common to the many dotted the world over, including our very own at Guantanamo.
  166. @iffen
    We have to be careful of the language we use. I reject the use of the terms “antisemite” and “antisemitism.” Do you?

    Obviously I do not reject the term.

    It is very useful. How else can we identify Nazis and neo-Nazis? All of them are not going to dress up in colorful uniforms.

    Apparently there are racists who are not anti-Semites, so the term has its uses.

    I do agree that we need to be careful, and I admit to failing in this regard. However, I try to learn and I intend to be more accurate and precise going forward.

    It is very useful. How else can we identify Nazis and neo-Nazis?

    If we accept that no people are superior to others, we just need to identify them as racists and neo-racists.

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  167. @Miro23

    "The best way forward for a small, well-connected minority is to align with the dominant ethnic group and go forth from there. This is actually the best way forward for the Jews, and why they don’t simply do this is something I don’t understand."
     
    Like the Chinese oligarch's Guanxi in SE Asia? US Jews have already been doing this for years (English names, best friends/sponsors of leading Democrat and Republican dynasties - Clinton & Bush + sponsoring Congressmen across the board).

    I think the problem is their fascination with the success (from their point of view) of the Bolshevik Jews in Russia who exacted a massive revenge against native Russians and Ukrainians while establishing their own Jewish aristocracy. This is such an enticing prospect but requires weakening Anglo US society sufficiently to enable a successful Coup.

    “…their fascination with the success (from their point of view) of the Bolshevik Jews in Russia who exacted a massive revenge against native Russians and Ukrainians while establishing their own Jewish aristocracy.”

    Therefore the curious situation when the Russophobic Masha Gessen extolls the Belorussian Nobel Prize laureate in journalism (?!) Svetlana Alexievich who writes in Russian (btw, who knows Ms. Alexevich’ works?), while the name of Alexander Solzhenitsyn, a Nobel Prize laureate in Literature, has become shunned in the West and his important documentary about the history of Jewish people in Russia, “Two Hundred Years Together,” has been sequestered by the British and American publishing houses. There are well-documented facts about atrocities committed by Bolshevik Jews – on a horrendously massive scale – against native Russians and Ukrainians; these acts were as sadistic as the Nazis’ actions against non-Aryans. The undeniable facts of exceptional prominence of Bolshevik Jews in the Russian revolution, Civil War, and Purges make the profitable status of special Jewish victimhood go in flames.

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  168. http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2016/09/httporiginalantiwarcomsmith-grant2016091981-americans-oppose-38-billion-pledge-israel.html

    81% 0f Americans oppose the $38 billion military gift to Israel
    “A solid majority of Americans would redirect $38 billion the Obama Administration pledged to Israel toward other priorities.”

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  169. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    Joey Sobran was no patriot. Scum of the earth, maybe. He learned well what happens when you mouth off to the wrong people, he learned so well his liver went bye-bye and Joey went die-die.

    Joey Sobran was no patriot. Scum of the earth, maybe.

    Do you have any concise quotes or writings of his that you wish to share in order to back up this opinion?

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    Sure.

    "But McCarthy’s real sin was a sin of omission. He fingered a lot of Communist and pro-Communist small fry who had wormed into the government during the Roosevelt administration, but he never dared to finger the real villain: Franklin Roosevelt himself. That would have taken more guts than Joe McCarthy, or the entire U.S. Marine Corps, had."

    "Clinton will be honored as a hero and martyr of the sexual revolution — the president who made it official that sexual freedom is a human right! Is this Clinton’s hidden agenda? I think so."

    The man who holds as his philosophical grounds the mantra "Roosevelt was a Commie, Clinton was a Homo, Hitler was Right!" can hardly expect to be surprised when even The American Conservative withdraws its loaf of bread and leaves him to starve, a paranoid pauper begging for attention and cheap whiskey.

    The humiliation of Joseph Sobran should make every true patriot proud to be an American, an inheritor of that great civilization created by Europeans and Jews.

  170. @iffen
    We have to be careful of the language we use. I reject the use of the terms “antisemite” and “antisemitism.” Do you?

    Obviously I do not reject the term.

    It is very useful. How else can we identify Nazis and neo-Nazis? All of them are not going to dress up in colorful uniforms.

    Apparently there are racists who are not anti-Semites, so the term has its uses.

    I do agree that we need to be careful, and I admit to failing in this regard. However, I try to learn and I intend to be more accurate and precise going forward.

    But why is it necessary to identify Nazis or neo-Nazis or anti-Semites or Racists? Who cares what someone, in their private life, thinks about another race or culture? I think it’s more important to avoid the implementation of “thought-crimes.” If someone assaults a Rabbi who cares what his motivation was? What should matter is only the fact of the assault. We have crossed a dangerous line with the passage of “hate crime” legislation that, in my opinion, violate the US Constitution’s Freedom of Speech guarantees. Right now certain groups believe they are benefiting from this legislation, I can foresee this legislation easily being turned against them in the future.
    Actions, not thoughts, are what should matter.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    But why is it necessary to identify Nazis or neo-Nazis or anti-Semites or Racists?

    It is necessary for political reasons; for choosing up sides. It is extremely unlikely, but not completely impossible, that a political opposition could form to oppose the elites. If a political opposition did coalesce, you wouldn’t want blatant racists and neo-Nazis in your political group.

    I am opposed to hate speech laws and hate crime laws.
  171. @Rich
    But why is it necessary to identify Nazis or neo-Nazis or anti-Semites or Racists? Who cares what someone, in their private life, thinks about another race or culture? I think it's more important to avoid the implementation of "thought-crimes." If someone assaults a Rabbi who cares what his motivation was? What should matter is only the fact of the assault. We have crossed a dangerous line with the passage of "hate crime" legislation that, in my opinion, violate the US Constitution's Freedom of Speech guarantees. Right now certain groups believe they are benefiting from this legislation, I can foresee this legislation easily being turned against them in the future.
    Actions, not thoughts, are what should matter.

    But why is it necessary to identify Nazis or neo-Nazis or anti-Semites or Racists?

    It is necessary for political reasons; for choosing up sides. It is extremely unlikely, but not completely impossible, that a political opposition could form to oppose the elites. If a political opposition did coalesce, you wouldn’t want blatant racists and neo-Nazis in your political group.

    I am opposed to hate speech laws and hate crime laws.

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    • Replies: @artichoke
    I'm more idealistic on the topic. I think the current abhorrence of racism, which is obviously illogical and targeted, will diminish. In 20 years you won't want to exclude "blatant racists" from your group, because racism will be accepted at least tacitly -- even by white people.
    , @Rich
    Obviously, there aren't too many people who want to hang around with someone who dresses up like Himmler and marches around his basement making speeches about the 4th Reich.
    The problem is that the term "racist" no longer has any meaning. When I was a kid, it meant someone who violently attacked someone else because of his race. Now, it appears to mean any White person. As long as someone isn't physically attacking someone else, they should be left alone.
  172. “That’s why so many Jews are so passionately committed to mass Third World immigration.”

    Such Jews are UNASSIMILATED.

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  173. “I’d not an anti-Semite;”

    Derb should be smart enough to know that beginning an article like that is like cutting yourself so you’re profusely bleeding and then jumping into a school of hungry sharks.

    The truth and reason mean absolutely nothing to these people.

    I do agree with Derb however that it is a small subset and the heightened paranoia seems to be among East European Jews. Remember that many are literally just one generation removed from the shetel which was essentially medieval.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "I do agree with Derb however that it is a small subset and the heightened paranoia seems to be among East European Jews."

    Define small. Jews are already a small minority in America, but clearly they have a lot of power and influence. I agree that it is only a subset of Jews who actively promote immigration, but they have support - seemingly, often, broad support among the entire minority. Also, in voting patterns and social attitudes, such as acceptance of the normalization of homosexuality, Jews block-vote to a greater degree than other old-world and/or non-black ethnic minorities, such as Irish or Italians.
  174. @iffen
    I expected more from you. Maybe you should take a couple more months off.

    Are you seriously joining the mushbrains who whine that there are other Semitic peoples so anti-Semite doesn’t mean anything?

    We don’t know what racism means because Jew haters want to re-define anti-Semitism as a special form of racism and that means that neither exists.

    Anti-Semitism exists and can be recognized. The experts on what it means are the anti-Semites.

    Racism exists and needs to recognize itself and limit the damage that it does.

    Why do we assume that racism is bad or that it’s even reasonable to try to get rid of it? Asians are racist through and through. The whole “la Raza” movement is obviously racist. Many African Americans are racist. Everybody gets to be racist but whites?

    Not buying it.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Once whites are no longer a minority, it will be declared by the PTB - and backed up by new research - that racism is normal.
  175. @iffen
    But why is it necessary to identify Nazis or neo-Nazis or anti-Semites or Racists?

    It is necessary for political reasons; for choosing up sides. It is extremely unlikely, but not completely impossible, that a political opposition could form to oppose the elites. If a political opposition did coalesce, you wouldn’t want blatant racists and neo-Nazis in your political group.

    I am opposed to hate speech laws and hate crime laws.

    I’m more idealistic on the topic. I think the current abhorrence of racism, which is obviously illogical and targeted, will diminish. In 20 years you won’t want to exclude “blatant racists” from your group, because racism will be accepted at least tacitly — even by white people.

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  176. I find it irreconcilable that a religion that considers its own people as the “chosen ones” does not create an adversarial us versus them problem with the rest of the world. Just how big of a problem depends on just how deeply these beliefs are held. I agree that for the vast majority of Jews, the belief system is not that deep to cause a problem. But for that small subset of true believers, the beliefs are so deeply entrenched in their individual and group identity that they have become actionable, and therefore problematic. If you think about it this way, you can see why you find heavy concentrations of these true believers in focal positions of power throughout society — law, politics, banking, high finance, and the news/media/entertainment complex. From these focal points, one can best act on their beliefs in a manner to win the us versus them battle.

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    Jews are not in those positions because they think they are chosen people. Just having that belief isn't enough to accomplish that. There is racial solidarity, but then almost everyone but white people are allowed to have that.
  177. @iffen
    But why is it necessary to identify Nazis or neo-Nazis or anti-Semites or Racists?

    It is necessary for political reasons; for choosing up sides. It is extremely unlikely, but not completely impossible, that a political opposition could form to oppose the elites. If a political opposition did coalesce, you wouldn’t want blatant racists and neo-Nazis in your political group.

    I am opposed to hate speech laws and hate crime laws.

    Obviously, there aren’t too many people who want to hang around with someone who dresses up like Himmler and marches around his basement making speeches about the 4th Reich.
    The problem is that the term “racist” no longer has any meaning. When I was a kid, it meant someone who violently attacked someone else because of his race. Now, it appears to mean any White person. As long as someone isn’t physically attacking someone else, they should be left alone.

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  178. @geokat62

    How does one go about preventing anyone from contributing to their chosen advocacy group? You tell me.
     
    I'm glad you asked, Sam. You once admitted that Jews, including yourself, send your monthly cheques, "automaton," to AIPAC.

    As I indicated previously, I just finished reading GA's The Wondering Who? The passage that struck me the most was the tale Atzom recounted about his military service in the summer of 1984, in Lebanon. He visited Ansar, a notorious Israeli internment camp in the south of Lebanon. This experience "changed his life completely":

    I confronted the officer about these horrible concrete dog cubes.

    He was quick to reply: ‘These are our solitary confinement blocks; after two days in one of these, you become a devoted Zionist!’ This was enough for me. I realised that my affair with the Israeli state and with Zionism was over. Yet I still knew very little about Palestine, about the Nakba or even about Judaism and Jewish-ness, for that matter. I only saw then that, as far as I was concerned, Israel was bad news, and I didn’t want to have anything further to do with it. Two weeks later I returned my uniform, grabbed my alto sax, took the bus to Ben-Gurion Airport and left for Europe...
     
    I'm sure you, and most of your co-religionists, are aware of the Ansar internment camp. So to answer your question about "preventing people from contributing to their chosen advocacy group," why would you and other American Jews send in their monthly cheques if they know they are underwriting a regime that treats other human beings in this manner? More specifically, how can you go about your days bragging about eating the finest foods, drinking the finest wines, wearing the finest clothes, while knowing that your monthly cheques are underwriting the death of half a million innocent Iraqi children, the deaths of over a million innocent Muslims in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somolia, etc., executing PNAC's Plan to remake the ME to secure the villa in the jungle... a villa that treats other human beings in such a deplorable manner?

    Here's my simple solution: I no longer think getting AIPAC registered under FARA will do anything. A more feasible solution lies with The Community. If you are ostensibly opposed to all this death and destruction, you and others must convince TC to stop sending their cheques, automaton or not, to AIPAC. If you don't, you and others have to live with the fact that you are responsible, in part, for those horrible concrete dog cubes.

    The existence of a specific prison in a specific war on Israel’s border does not mean there is broad Israeli support for all the disruption going on in the middle east now. Do you have some direct proof there is? Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi etc. were not attacking Israel. ISIS which is taking their place very well might.

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    "Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi etc. were not attacking Israel."

    Saddam Hussein did actually lob a few desultory SCUD missiles at Israel during the first Gulf War (i.e., the second Gulf War).
    , @geokat62

    Do you have some direct proof there is? Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi etc. were not attacking Israel.
     
    Remember all the suicide bombing in Tel Aviv, Haifa, Jerusalem during the height of the second intifada in the 90s, before the wall... I mean separation barrier was built? Young girls were strapping on vests packed with explosives and detonating them on buses, in pizza parlors, and in night clubs. Well, guess who was furnishing the suicide bombers' family with $25,000 as a bounty for their children's efforts? That's right, it was Saddam Hussein. Saddam, Assad, Gaddafi, and the Iranian mullahs were still assisting the Palestinians in their fight against the brutal occupation. That's why some of these countries were lucky enough to make it on the "Axis of Evil" hit list. If you were closely following the news, you'd be aware of all this... which makes me wonder, why you're not.
    , @annamaria
    "The existence of a specific prison in a specific war on Israel’s border does not mean there is broad Israeli support for all the disruption going on in the middle east now..." - Of course there are many decent Israelis in Israel. But considering the example of predatory Jewish attitude towards Germany (all German citizens) -- "Germany Has Paid Out More Than $61.8 Billion in Third Reich Reparations" -- all Israelis deserve to be called "good Germans." http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n6p19_reparations.html

    "Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi etc. were not attacking Israel." - Correct. But the Israel-firsters in the US/UK have been extraordinary aggressive when pushing for the illegal Iraq War and attacking Libya and Syria: "On Jan. 26, 1998, the neocon Project for the New American Century sent a letter to Clinton urging the ouster of Saddam Hussein by force if necessary." http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-iraq-war-the-neocons-and-americas-chalabi-legacy-of-lies/5487105 http://newobserveronline.com/iraq-crisis-inevitable-consequence-of-the-jewish-lobbys-planned-middle-east-warmongering/
    The founders of PNAC, William Kristol and Robert Kagan, are rabid Israel-firsters and insatiable warmongers. Core members of the PNAC included "Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, R. James Woolsey, Elliot Abrams, Donald Rumsfeld, Robert Zoellick, and John Bolton." (This roster of prominent ziocons needs to be augmented with the name of Michael Ledeen famed for his "yellow cake" story): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
    Netanyahu pushing for Iraq war: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4529120/netanyahus-expert-testimony-iraq-2002
    "The neoconservatives aimed for an Israelisation of American policy, conflating Israeli and American enemies." http://www.thenational.ae/arts-lifestyle/the-review/how-neoconservatives-led-us-to-war-in-iraq#full
    The "Israelisation of American policy" is a picture of parasitic feasting on American resources that became available when the US "brains" (Deep State & visible government) have become infected by various poisonous projects designed by either major war profiteers for money or by the "chosen" for the glory of Eretz Israel ... and money.
    Could you exonerate any of the persons below? They are all criminal propagandists for wars of aggression in the Middle East (including the half-wit and ignoramus G. W. Bush)
    Jewish Neocons in the Bush Administration:
    * Richard Perle, Chairman of George Bush’s Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee
    * Douglas Feith,Under Secretary of Defense and the Pentagon’s Policy Advisor.
    * Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Defense Secretary and campaign advisor
    * Robert Satloff, US National Security Council Advisor
    * Rabbi Dov Zekheim, Under Secretary of Defense and Comptroller
    * Elliott Abrams, National Security Council Advisor
    * Marc Grossman, Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs
    * Richard Haass, Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Director of National Security Programs
    * Robert Zoellick, the US’s Trade Representative
    * Ari Fleischer Israeli citizen), official White House spokesman
    * Joshua Bolten, Bush’s Chief Policy Director
    * Steve Goldsmith, Senior Advisor to the President and domestic policy advisor
    * David Frum, Bush’s official White House speechwriter
    http://newobserveronline.com/iraq-crisis-inevitable-consequence-of-the-jewish-lobbys-planned-middle-east-warmongering/
    , @Art

    The existence of a specific prison in a specific war on Israel’s border does not mean there is broad Israeli support for all the disruption going on in the middle east now. Do you have some direct proof there is?
     
    Netanyahu promised NO PEACE and the Israelis elected him - what more do we need to know about the evil nature of Zionism and Zionist Israel?

    p.s. US Jews still support NO PEACE Israel.
  179. @Clearpoint
    I find it irreconcilable that a religion that considers its own people as the "chosen ones" does not create an adversarial us versus them problem with the rest of the world. Just how big of a problem depends on just how deeply these beliefs are held. I agree that for the vast majority of Jews, the belief system is not that deep to cause a problem. But for that small subset of true believers, the beliefs are so deeply entrenched in their individual and group identity that they have become actionable, and therefore problematic. If you think about it this way, you can see why you find heavy concentrations of these true believers in focal positions of power throughout society --- law, politics, banking, high finance, and the news/media/entertainment complex. From these focal points, one can best act on their beliefs in a manner to win the us versus them battle.

    Jews are not in those positions because they think they are chosen people. Just having that belief isn’t enough to accomplish that. There is racial solidarity, but then almost everyone but white people are allowed to have that.

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    Racial solidarity or the spiritual solidarity of like-minded individuals with the same belief systems and the same goals? My money is on spiritual solidarity. What's inside the man transcends what's on the outside.
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    @artichoke
    Why do we assume that racism is bad or that it's even reasonable to try to get rid of it? Asians are racist through and through. The whole "la Raza" movement is obviously racist. Many African Americans are racist. Everybody gets to be racist but whites?

    Not buying it.

    Once whites are no longer a minority, it will be declared by the PTB – and backed up by new research – that racism is normal.

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  181. @Svigor

    What a load of nonsense. His children hated him so much they dumped Sobran in a nursing home and waited for Joey’s health to follow Joey’s mind and morals into the abyss.
     
    Well, that's certainly relevant. Thanks for the illumination.

    The inference that he was in a nursing home, therefore his children disliked him, is extremely weak if it exists at all.

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    Jennifer Rubin’s face when she says “the other” at 41:15. Ugh!

    I’ve never heard her speak before, but I’m astounded at how grating her voice and style of speaking are.

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  183. @Rich
    Apparently, Timothy Geithner was half-German and Half English and a Christian to boot. You'll have to cross him off your list.

    I am gonna have to say he is at least jew adjacent.. Half German? hmmm. strike one. Married to Carole Sonnenfield a professor of Psych who writes novels about adolescent grief? strike two. A son named Benjamin? strike three you’re out.

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    Jennifer Rubin says that,

    Conservatives, you see, do not believe that immigration causes unemployment. That’s a zero sum thinking that we usually attribute to our friends on the Left. It’s factually not true and philosophically is abhorrent to conservatives who do not believe that if I win you lose. Conservatives do not believe that millions of jobs were lost because of free trade. That’s nonsense. We know that there has been a shuffling of the work force. We know that a more automized, more sophisticasted workplace requires different skills, but we have not lost millions and millions of jobs to Mexico. China did not steal our jobs.

    Jennifer Rubin’s idea of what conservatives believe is completely foreign to what I tend to think that conservatives believe. It’s as though she lives in a parallel universe.

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    • Replies: @Randal

    Jennifer Rubin’s idea of what conservatives believe is completely foreign to what I tend to think that conservatives believe.
     
    That's my impression too.

    Though I feel the first obvious explanation is that Rubin is not a conservative, but rather a socially liberal globalist. The second is that she is just a liar. The two are not mutually exclusive, of course. Quite the contrary, in fact.
  185. @eggheadshadhisnumber
    Joey Sobran was no patriot. Scum of the earth, maybe. He learned well what happens when you mouth off to the wrong people, he learned so well his liver went bye-bye and Joey went die-die.

    Joey Sobran was no patriot. Scum of the earth, maybe. He learned well what happens when you mouth off to the wrong people, he learned so well his liver went bye-bye and Joey went die-die.

    Oh my – here we see a Zionist Zombie on steroids.

    The irrational hate for humanity instilled in him by his parents just drips out of him with every word.

    Clearly he is a victim of his mean culture. What kind of a sick culture traumatizes its children with abject fear of humanity?

    p.s. Joe Sobran was a great writer. His articles were always interesting – seldom where they a copycat of the existing folderol of the day.

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    • Replies: @FKA Max

    "You could see there was blood coming out of [his] eyes, blood coming out of [his] wherever. In my opinion, [he] was off base."
     
    - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/07/trump-says-foxs-megyn-kelly-had-blood-coming-out-of-her-wherever/

    Donald Trump: I'm a counter-puncher

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdgLHRf_PA0

    The good sir seems to have gotten truly triggered by my Joseph Sobran/Counter-Semitism comment: http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/what-do-jennifer-rubin-and-brett-stephens-have-against-nativism-oh-wait/#comment-1584909

    He reminds me of Eric Breindel ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Breindel who had a relationship with Tamar Jacoby https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_Jacoby ) debating Christopher Hitchens on David Irving:

    Christopher Hitchens on Charlie Rose - On David Irving's controversial biography (May 8, 1996)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdxTsWXZdFc


    Mr. Sobran must have been onto something with this distinction between anti-Semites and counter-Semites. Too bad, he did not further pursue this idea and concept in his writing beyond the interview he gave to The New Republic. I think it merits much more attention and discussion.
  186. @oh its just me too
    "I’d not an anti-Semite;"

    Derb should be smart enough to know that beginning an article like that is like cutting yourself so you're profusely bleeding and then jumping into a school of hungry sharks.

    The truth and reason mean absolutely nothing to these people.

    I do agree with Derb however that it is a small subset and the heightened paranoia seems to be among East European Jews. Remember that many are literally just one generation removed from the shetel which was essentially medieval.

    “I do agree with Derb however that it is a small subset and the heightened paranoia seems to be among East European Jews.”

    Define small. Jews are already a small minority in America, but clearly they have a lot of power and influence. I agree that it is only a subset of Jews who actively promote immigration, but they have support – seemingly, often, broad support among the entire minority. Also, in voting patterns and social attitudes, such as acceptance of the normalization of homosexuality, Jews block-vote to a greater degree than other old-world and/or non-black ethnic minorities, such as Irish or Italians.

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    • Replies: @Karl
    Mr Anon > I agree that it is only a subset of Jews who actively promote immigration, but they have support

    ...from theUnz-nik'im of the world, who read the NY times every day, watch Hollywood television every day, moth-to-flame embracing/buying/obsessing every day.

    And then complain about the horribleness of the world they see.

    To repeat what I've written before: I have done real commercial business with ACTUAL race-conscious, ethnic-self-centric Whites.... the Amish Mennonites of mid-America (they import some Israeli items).

    They don't do ANY of the Unz-nik stuff.

    and they seem pretty happy.
  187. @artichoke
    The existence of a specific prison in a specific war on Israel's border does not mean there is broad Israeli support for all the disruption going on in the middle east now. Do you have some direct proof there is? Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi etc. were not attacking Israel. ISIS which is taking their place very well might.

    “Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi etc. were not attacking Israel.”

    Saddam Hussein did actually lob a few desultory SCUD missiles at Israel during the first Gulf War (i.e., the second Gulf War).

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    @Lot

    For a government to favor its own people over foreigners: There’s something wrong with that? What? What, exactly?
     
    The problem with nativism for elites, Jewish and gentile alike, is that it isn't global oligarchic capitalism, their preferred system. I really don't think Bret Stephens has even a inchoate fear of middle america whites launching pogroms.

    Now for the far-left anti-white Jews, they are loonie enough I would not doubt they believe that.