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Happy Halloween! Complete with Politically Correct ghouls.

This Megyn Kelly story caught my attention last week. She is (was) the host of a morning talk show on the NBC television channel. I don’t watch morning TV but I dimly remember her from her previous employment at Fox News. As best I can remember, she was a capable interviewer. I can’t recall having any negative impression of her.

But last Tuesday she was chatting with someone on the show hen the subject of Halloween costumes came up—in particular, the matter of white people who put on blackface as part of a Halloween act. Someone said it was racist. To which Megyn responded:

Clip: But what is racist? Because you do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts on blackface on Halloween, or a black person who puts on whiteface for Halloween. Back when I was a kid [JD: Kelly is only 47, and looks younger] that was OK, as long as you were dressing up as, like, a character.

That caused wailing and rending of garments from sea to shining sea and across the fruited plain. Ms. Kelly was denounced from CultMarx pulpits everywhere. Some woman named Roxanne Jones at the CNN website honked that “For me the most revealing part of Kelly’s explosive comments was their illumination of her true face as an out-of-the-closet racist.” [Megyn Kelly’s ‘blackface’ comments show her true face, October 25, 2018] Ms. Jones’s own true face is pictured right.

Ms. Kelly made a grovelling apology but of course it only made things worse.

You must never apologize to these swine; it just further inflames their vindictiveness.

NBC has suspended Ms. Kelly. [Megyn Kelly’s ‘Blackface’ Remarks Leave Her Future at NBC in Doubt, By John Koblin and Michael M. Grynbaum, NYT, October 25, 2018] The fate of her contract, which paid her $69 million for three years’ work, is still unknown.

There are rumors that NBC was unhappy about her poor ratings and looking for an opportunity to drop her. That may be true for all I know. But the media storm of outrage over her Halloween remarks was none the less real.

What struck me about her remarks was their mildness. People are outraged about that?

Yes, a great many people are.

I had a similar reaction recently listening to a talk about sexual harassment. The talker was a female attorney who represents harassed women. She was obviously quite passionately engaged with the issue. She read out some of the depositions she had taken from plaintiffs in harassment cases. Samples from memory:

  • “He made lewd remarks every time I came into his office.”
  • “He put his hand on my rear end.”
  • “He tried to kiss me at a Christmas party.” (I think this was the strongest one):

I was sitting there listening to this, thinking: “That’s it? That’s a case in law? It just sounds to me like everyday office banter.”

I’d better admit I haven’t done full-time office work for nearly twenty years now. In the thirty years I was doing it, I can’t recall a single issue of anything I would call sexual harassment.

Guys were sometimes a nuisance to women, especially at office parties where the punch was flowing, but phrases like: “Oh, grow up, George!” and, “Would you keep your hands to yourself, please, Larry?” were still current back then.

Putting the two things together—Megyn Kelly and that lady attorney—it seems to me we have amped up sensitivity to a point where any kind of relaxed social life will soon become impossible.

When I first heard the word “microaggression,” I laughed. Could people really be serious who used that word? I wondered.

They certainly could; and now they have taken over. The merest shade of a hint of a tinge of a tint of negativity towards blacks, or of sexual suggestiveness to a female co-worker, is now a hanging offense, or at least a career-ending one.

The Swiftian ditty I recalled when microaggressions first came up—I think it was from one of Steve Sailer’s commenters—has come true:

Microaggressions have nanoaggressions
To marginalize and slight ’em.
And nanoaggressions have picoaggressions;
And so ad infinitum.

This is the end of free banter, the end of workplace conviviality.

It also supplies the answer to the question: Why are comedians not funny any more? Answer: Because they dare not be.

But how did we get here? What or who been driving this dreadful development?

I’ll go with “who” and give you my answer: the Trial Lawyer’s Association.

Back in 2001—boy, I’m really digging into the archives this week—I wrote a column titled Race on Wall Street.” I told the story of the small department where I worked in an investment bank. In the several years I worked there, just three black employees came and went. Two of the three ended up with a lawsuit against the firm for racial discrimination, citing a different boss in the two cases. The firm settled in both cases—these firms always settle out of court. One of the settlements was for $250,000 dollars.

In daily interaction with these people across some two thousand days, I had witnessed nothing—setting aside [a] harmless kind of banter—that struck me as offensive, inflammatory or discriminatory.

But Managing Director of the firm explained the process to me. There is a breed of attorneys, he told me, who seek out black employees at big-money firms and explain to them that by signing a couple of depositions they can make a bundle of money.

The sexual harassment panic is a horse out of the same stable. Predatory trial lawyers seek out neurotic women, coach them on what to say, write up the depositions, and [ker-ching!]

This is the world we live in. Guided by the trial lawyers, and the merchants of racial grievance, we are drifting back to a stiff kind of Puritanism.

I don’t like Puritanism. I like to laugh.

Puritans don’t laugh—except at the sight of a burning witch.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Rational says:

    WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL WATCHING TV? SO ANTIQUATED.

    Thanks for the article, Sir.

    This is not Puritanism, but police state-ism. The former is based on some principles, the latter on control.

    I am surprised people are still watching TV. Turn it off!! Get your news online.

    The trash they spew the whole day, on TV, is just too sickening. Throw away the TV.

    I did that and I feel much better. I can eat dinner in peace now.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @the JQ
  2. I don’t watch morning TV but I …

    … should keep that up all day? You’ll feel lots better for it, John.

    I STILL take the term microaggression as a joke, though the fact that spell-check did not flag it is kind of scary in and of itself.

    You are absolutely right that lawyers of the ambulance-chasing variety have taken the fun out of everything. The young people seem to like it this way, though, which is just sad.

    This clip from The Office is just perfect for your post here, and, yes, there is an English version, in case its humor still would better float your boat*:

    * I got ripped/burned The Office DVDs on the street in China for 2 bucks. It started with one season of the English version with Ricky Gervais (a very funny guy). I don’t think the seller knew the difference – all just silly white people.

  3. Oh, BTW, that Megan Kelly is hot, or so it seems. That’s reminding me to write a blog post on the phenomenon of Halloween having become a time for young women to show their T&A via (usually) witch, ballerina, and, I’m guessing here, slut costumes?

    • Replies: @Forbes
    , @WHAT
    , @Truth
  4. I was sitting there listening to this, thinking: “That’s it? That’s a case in law? It just sounds to me like everyday office banter.”

    Touching someone’s ass doesn’t seem like “banter” to me. But neither does it rise to the level of moral depravity that feminists and leftards want to claim for it.

  5. What’s missing above in the talk about the predatory dishonest trial lawyers being the problem –

    Is What and Who is behind the trial lawyers, the judges, and the whole legal system culture, now accepting nonsense as the basis of legal claims and extorted ‘settlements’ … nonsense that would have been laughed out of court, and resulted in sanctions for friviolous litigation, in another era

    Simply, it is more cultural Marxism, the oligarchy using one of its prime mafias – the lawyers – to damage lives and businesses, to destroy the old middle class and especially to thwart European-heritage males, and place people in general in fear

    And to increase the power and size the lawyer mafia, who get used to enriching themselves by lies, and who become forever servants for the oligarchs, always available to do oligarch bidding to destroy anyone and everyone, under ‘colour of law’, approved by a ‘judge’ so therefore ‘legal’

    • Replies: @anon
  6. I don’t like Puritanism. I like to laugh.

    Puritans don’t laugh—except at the sight of a burning witch.
    One recalls here the old saw that Puritanism is the sneaking suspicion that someone, somewhere, may be having a good time.

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
  7. @Rational

    I can eat dinner in peace now.

    Dinner, hell, that’s not the half of it for most people. It’s while getting dressed, cooking dinner, waiting at the airport , or sitting in the waiting room for the dentist or used car dealer. In some of those latter cases, it is out of our control, and in some it’s not, but people sure do take their TV very seriously.

    John Prine, in his prime, had something to say about this:

    Blow up your TV.
    Throw away your papers.
    Go out to the country.
    Build you a home.

    Plant a little garden.
    Eat a lot of peaches.
    Try to find Jesus
    on your own.

    BTW, Rational, I wrote my 1st comment in the incubation period, in which one can’t seen any written so far. I agree wholeheartedly with yours though.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Sam Stone
  8. Iberiano says:

    It may have been pushed by, and/or to the benefit of the “Trial Lawyers”, but it certainly has resulted in the wielding of extreme power by particularly (white) women in the work place. Yes, (actual) minorities (in the US) may have benefited, but “microaggressions” involving alleged sexual harassment and discrimination based upon gender, have become so wide in scope and so classically cliche, that women can merely make assertions without merit to improve their political position in the workplace.

    There are 20, 30 and even early 40 years olds that go around bringing up “barefoot and pregnant” “a woman’s place is in the kitchen” cliches, to set the tone of a conversation with men, even though no one has ever said any such thing to them. Every smart man knows when a woman is setting up a narrative because she starts make soft-claims/parallels and draws on largely accepted myths (that women make less than mean due to sexism, etc, “you just don’e respect women” the first time you disagree with them). Men are terrified of being the subject of a witch hunt ( as well as a racial one), and so there is a race to be the top white knight. Until lately, this was true of racist claims–although now white women are being subjected to it.

    The take down of Megyn Kelly is not surprising–pretty white women are on the list now–nor is it necessarily unjust in a universal sense. She played the “sexism” card against Trump, because he did not personally bow to her. She did so in a national forum to try to embarrass him and damage his candidacy, out of her own sense of self-righteousness. Now a black woman and society has done the same to her. [Note: It’s doubtful she had not done the same take downs and attempted take downs to male co-workers coming up through her career].

  9. nickels says:

    Political correctness is just secular puritanism.
    Read Paul Gottfried’s Multicult book.

  10. @Iberiano

    Ahaaa, that Megan Kelly! (Cause I don’t watch the idiot box, I don’t have to keep up.) Thanks for that reminder of her behavior during the ’16 election, Iberiano*. Well, it’s not Instant Karma, but a little Latent Karma does the trick too. What’s her next step, sexy Halloween Costumes? Anything to stay on TV, I guess.

    OK, take it, Willie …

    Just a little old fashioned karma comin’ down,
    just a little old fashioned justice comin’ round,
    a little bit of sowin’, a little bit of reapin’,
    a little bit of laughin’, a little bit of weepin’,
    just a little old fashioned karma comin’ down.

    * BTW, are you a “sub-continental”? The Iberian Peninsula is a subcontinent of Europe, so … just askin’.

  11. “You must never apologize to these swine; it just further inflames their vindictiveness.”

    Absolutely. This cultural-Marxist demon rampaging throughout the Western world only grows stronger when people begin to doubt their convictions. One of my heroes, Professor Howard Birack, a physicist who taught at USC, predicted the multi-cultural West would collapse into a communist-capitalist hybrid. If this demon is not stopped we’ll be dealing with a market system that enshrines elite profits while punishing the plebeians with a societal credit score along with the financial component. Unfortunately, or fortunately, Professor Birack is no longer around to see his prophecy unfold: he disappeared after his involvement in a mysterious incident in 1987.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
  12. Forbes says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    School-girl hooker–scotch plaid, pleated micro skirt, white knee-highs, bodice-hugging white blouse–was quite popular for a while.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  13. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    It’s less puritanism than Moral Snobbery. There is real morality based on reasoned thought and honest emotions, and there is status-morality based on signaling that one BELONGS in the haute community of proper-minded people.

    It’s like there’s real academia(what’s left of it anyway) and Fake-academia or Fakedemia(most of humanities nowadays) where true learning and thought counts for less than displaying one’s mastery of Established Thinkerisms. How else did Avital Ronell become such a ‘celebrated’ professor?

    People never grow out of high school mentality where FITTING IN and BEING APPROVED/ACCEPTED count for more than being true to oneself. You see this among the jocks, the popular girls. You also see it among the nerds. To be part of the tribe, the set, the element, the clique, the society.

    Now, the rules of what is proper changes according to who-has-the-power, and Kelly’s ‘crime’ was she forgot the script and the codes.

    But then, she deserves no sympathy for us because she tried to get Trump with some bogus feminist PC about what he said about stupid women in the past. Because she got her job with her looks — her interview with Putin shows she is a total dingbat — and because she was seen as a ‘conservative’ at much despised Fox(in a media environment dominated by Libby-dibs) –, she wanted to burnish her reputation as a hard-nosed feminist. But people saw right through her, that phony.

  14. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    If blackface is wrong, why is blackwomb okay? If a white woman hasn’t the right to make herself look black, why does she have a right to take black seed and give birth to black children?

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Truth
  15. @Forbes

    Hey, same in my household – what a coincidence!

    Haha, maybe this year.

  16. Anon[397] • Disclaimer says:

    ” She played the “sexism” card against Trump, because he did not personally bow to her.”

    She got what she deserved, and it couldn’t have happened to a better person, either. Strict adherence to dogma or a charismatic leader exemplifies all cults. When you join a cult, you implicitly agree to their rules. Kelly inadvertently broke one of them, and she was excommunicated as a result. Besides, she only got her NBC gig in the first place because they thought she’d bring in disaffected republicans and be a powerful rallying point against their political enemy Donald Trump. They were wrong, so they didn’t have much use for her. They’ll search for another fake republican to oppose Trump; they’ve already got guys like David Brooks. Like all imperial occupying powers, they choose a fake figurehead leader to sway the local masses in the Ruling Class’s favor.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @unpc downunder
  17. @Achmed E. Newman

    Wholeheartedly agree with you. People can’t seem to handle peace and quiet.

    https://www.tvbgone.com/

  18. Derbyshire:

    How Did This Happen? Why Wasn’t I Asked?

    Um, maybe because when people who noticed it way before you tried to tell you, you were too busy cucking with silly articles like “The Marx of the Anti-Semites”?

    Just a guess.

    • Replies: @Russ
  19. Puritans don’t laugh—except at the sight of a burning witch.

    Not sure they would laugh even then: they’re all about Luke 6:25. Mirthless cunts.

    As someone once quipped, the puritan idea of hell is a place where everybody minds their own business.

  20. Gunner says:

    I remember that 2001 column. That’s why I was shocked the SJW horde chose to go after Derb 11 years later for basically the same offense they had ignored back then.

  21. njguy73 says:

    The objection to Puritans is not that they try to make us think as they do, but that they try to make us do as they think…At the bottom of Puritanism one finds envy of the fellow who is having a better time in the world, and hence hatred of him. At the bottom of democracy one finds the same thing. This is why all Puritans are democrats and all democrats are Puritans.

    H. L. Mencken, A Little Book In C Major

    He later called Puritanism, “the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.”

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/H._L._Mencken

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  22. AKAHorace says:
    @TomSchmidt

    Best comment on puritans was from Macaulay. Puritans did not stop bear baiting for the
    pain that it gave to the bear, but the pleasure that it gave to the spectators.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  23. Wally says:

    As seen at http://www.unz.com

    Ford – Kavanaugh, notice the difference.

  24. Wally says:
    @Anon

    And parachuted with a reported $69 million

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
  25. Wally says:
    @Anon

    Why do black women get their hair straightened a la white women?

    Why do black women wear white hair wigs?

    Why do blacks with a few bucks vacation in Europe, but not in Africa?

    Why do blacks always try to move away from blacks and close to whites.

    Why do black Africans try to leave Africa and go to white majority countries?

    Feel free to add on.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Them Guys
  26. anon[322] • Disclaimer says:

    Go to any college campus today. I assure you all the partying, drinking and hook-up culture is still going stronger than ever.

    Kids, they never learn.

    • Replies: @CalDre
    , @anon
    , @Jeff Stryker
  27. I don’t know about Puritanism. Perhaps a bit of a metaphor but this is more like the circle of the firing squad of the the French Revolution…..The SJWs will always eat and kill their own. SJWs don’t care what you think; they don’t care what’s true. They only care that you abide by their ever changing false narratives. Megan Kelly was marked from the beginning for removal by SJWs. She is a hot looking white chick. That’s automatically two strikes against her. Just look at the obese black and white hogs that haunt the SJWs scene on tube and in print. They hate her just for that and that’s enough to remove any women who isn’t at their daily disposal.

    Derbyshire misses the real problem and that is no matter what a white person does if some black moron disagrees with it then they are racist because the “magic blacks” can do no wrong. Kelly’s first mistake was backing down. She should have said something like why do many so many black celebrities light their skin…..should whites be offended?

    • Replies: @anon
  28. Bleedin’ Megyn is actually far ahead of the game. She’s just positioning herself for a massive resurgence 15 years down the road when it becomes fashionable to talk about how you once got #DeTooed for race-realist crimethink.

  29. ‘…Guys were sometimes a nuisance to women, especially at office parties where the punch was flowing, but phrases like: “Oh, grow up, George!” and, “Would you keep your hands to yourself, please, Larry?” were still current back then…’

    Slaps work pretty good too. Back in the day, when I was a high school math teacher in East L. A., I had a sixth period Algebra class infested with ninth grade squirrels. Two of the worst were a boy named Jose who had a reputation as a bit of a Romeo and a rather attractive but talkative girl named Lidia — who could not stand Jose. All the kids sat at these two person tables, so…

    I put Jose and Lydia at the same table. Absolute silence ensued. Lidia tried pleading with me to reseat her, but no. I liked how this was working out just fine.

    Silence for about another week. Then I guess Jose’s passion overcame him. While the kids were working through some practice exercises, out of nowhere came this thunderous slap. Lidia was looking madder than a wet hen, and Jose was rubbing his face with an abashed look. I and the rest of the class collapsed in laughter.

    I think I took pity and reseated Lidia at that point.

  30. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:

    Megyn Kelly’s body language or posture is kind of odd in that GQ shoot. It’s like she doesn’t think she’s sexy.

    • Replies: @Truth
  31. WHAT says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hot? She has a manface going!

    • Agree: Moi
  32. @Anon

    Kelly is a moderate feminist, but she doesn’t appear to be very ideologically dogmatic. The spat with Trump was probably more of an awkward personality clash. She’s a typical upper middle class WASP woman who is used to dealing with mild-mannered guys with the total opposite personality of Trump, and she didn’t know what to make of him and his brash persona (note: she is married to a good looking but kinda wet tech nerd/author who likes Jordan Peterson’s shy younger brother).

    She could probably interview a polite but highly controversial figure like Jared Taylor and be quite civil.

  33. J1234 says:

    Puritanism makes for a great halloween costume trend:

    Instead of ringing your doorbell and saying “trick or treat,” the kids march as a group up to your door (carrying torches) and chant, “Shame! Shame!”

    Best of all, because of it’s Anglo origins, it’s a religious and historical stereotype costume that isn’t on the offensive list. The female version is called “Pillory Clinton.”

  34. yurivku says:

    This article and PCR’s one http://www.unz.com/proberts/is-the-western-world-too-insane-to-be-worth-saving/
    had maked me to hope that so called “The West” will destroy itself before destroying the whole world.

    PCR asks (he wouldn’t allow comments so I do write here):

    So why do the Russians want to join the West? Is Russia intent on being part of the collapse of scientific civilization?

    Actually we don’t, most of us. There some “liberasts” who do, those gays, LGBTs and other abnormal creatures, but not Russians as a nation.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  35. Anon[129] • Disclaimer says:

    “And parachuted with a reported $69 million”

    A nice looking girl like that will land on her feet…or her back considering she worked for NBC 🙂

  36. LondonBob says:

    How do greedy unscrupulous trial lawyers relate to Puritanism? Seems the opposite of the Puritan ethic. Misdirection.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
  37. milosevic says:
    @Colin Wright

    Lidia tried pleading with me to reseat her, but no. I liked how this was working out just fine.

    — because what could possibly be funnier than setting up teenaged girls for sexual harassment, over their explicit objections?

    Stupid girls, what made you think your dignity was of any importance, relative to others’ cheap amusement?

    This is the kind of misogynist bullsh** that actually manages to make Identity Politics look somewhat plausible. So thanks for that, a**hole. You should have been fired. The fact that you now would be, actually constitutes social progress.

  38. CalDre says:
    @silviosilver

    I was sitting there listening to this, thinking: “That’s it? That’s a case in law? It just sounds to me like everyday office banter.”

    Touching someone’s ass doesn’t seem like “banter” to me. But neither does it rise to the level of moral depravity that feminists and leftards want to claim for it.

    Right, because if some guy came up to you and touched your ass, sexually, you wouldn’t be bothered by it, and if it happened time and again at work, your response would be to giggle and say, “Tom, come on now, leave your hands to yourself.”

    Yeah, we have some deranged sexist women abusers here. No doubt about it. This is the good part of the law. Any slimy predator at my wife’s or daughter’s jobs who touches her ass deserves to lose his job and I will make sure my wife or daughter gets the best lawyer to make his life a living hell.

    Leave your f*cking hands to yourself you perverted criminals. That’s sexual assault.

    • LOL: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  39. CalDre says:
    @anon

    hook-up culture is still going stronger than ever.

    Nowadays you have to get written consent before hopping in the sack. The written consent includes check boxes next to increasing levels of intimacy, each one must be initialed immediately prior to escalating to that level (cannot be pre-marked!).

    In addition, each applicable check box must be re-initialed every 2 minutes to signify that consent has not been withdrawn.

  40. Tom Welsh says:
    @silviosilver

    I agree that touching the posterior parts of a woman, if done deliberately, is rude and deserves at the very least a crisp rebuke. If repeated, perhaps some kind of disciplinary action.

    But we should keep things in proportion. How often do women spontaneously touch men? The hand on the shoulder – or even the hand? Now some people will reply that it’s entirely different when women do it, because they aren’t filthy beasts with sex on their mind all the time.

    Maybe. But does it make much difference to the touchee what the motive is? Perhaps we should have some standard office rules which include “no touching – of anyone by anyone – ever”.

  41. Tom Welsh says:
    @LondonBob

    Puritanism has (or claims to have) an ethical motivation; but greedy unscrupulous lawyers don’t.

    So it doesn’t matter whether the lawyers are exploiting Puritanism, feminism, Islam, Buddhism, pacifism or anything else – all they see in it is $profit$.

    The USA has become a kind of “reductio ad absurdum” of the rule of law. That fine aspiration led to an ever-increasing pile of laws, with all sorts of fine distinctions and sub-clauses, which can be negotiated only by lawyers. As someone intelligently observed, the more laws a nation has, the more lawless it will be. The laws are a futile attempt to compensate for a lack of morality – which they cannot do.

    So the USA has become the land of the shyster par excellence. If you can afford enough expensive lawyers, you can become remarkably immune to most of the laws. It’s a matter of choosing which laws to focus on in a given situation.

    As Groucho Marx said, “Those are my principles; if you don’t like them I have others”.

    • Agree: OEMIKITLOB
  42. @Colin Wright

    Like most teachers, you are a sadist on a power trip.

  43. Jake says:

    How did we get here? The Derb, Mr WASP, aint got a clue. It’s about race and ethnicity and the culture produced thereby. ‘Puritanism’ is central to the WASP DNA. It has a myriad of forms and targets of evil it must purify, which change every decade or half century, and it emerges after a dormancy wth a fury.

  44. I agree with JD re excesses of PC, essentially anti-white racism, hysterical witch-hunt mentality… But I also think that modern Western societies, and US in particular, are over-sexualized & sterile simultaneously. It is pornification of the average mind that is the enemy, not historical Puritanism which was a complex phenomenon involving industriousness, fundamentalist Calvinism & all types of repression. Basically, Puritans were educated, advanced & unhappy repressed Bible-centric groups; modern pseudo-Puritans are emotionally blackmailing weaklings with ulterior psycho-social motives.

  45. “The merest shade of a hint of a tinge of a tint of … sexual suggestiveness to a female co-worker, is now a hanging offense, or at least a career-ending one.”

    Not quite. You have to know what’s appropriate.

    • LOL: silviosilver
  46. I think Kelly’s remark was totally innocent. At least compared to the half-dozen instances in the last couple months where you could see hosts on the network news shows publicly calling for “killing all the white people!”. Her ratings and appeal tanked with her move from Fox, and her remark gave them the perfect opportunity to get rid of her and probably to withhold the rest of her money. I worked in the biz for 30 years. Believe me, any moral posturing is total BS, it’s all about ratings and moola.

    Anyway, the current rules are simple. Not only allowed, but encouraged: kill all the white people, castrate all the white men, vilify all those privileged skinny white bitches.

    Not allowed: any remark, not matter how true, regarding blacks, hispanics, Jews/Israel, and any member of the Acronym People (LBLT whatever…).

    Please be advised these rules can and do change instantly without prior notice.

  47. Merlin says:

    In the second paragraph, it should be “. . . hen show when . . .” FIFY

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  48. Merlin says:
    @silviosilver

    “Touching someone’s ass doesn’t seem like “banter” to me.”

    Yes, but it is a gateway micro-harassment.

  49. Dr. X says:

    John forgot to mention that the sultry-looking Kelly (in that photo, at least… like most women she doesn’t always look quite that good!) accused her previous bosses at FOX of sexual harassment.

    So now it’s time for her ox to get gored. Cry me a f–ing river after whoring yourself out for $69 million. My heart’s just broke.

    Nonetheless, the point is well-taken. This “speech policing” has gotten out of hand. I refuse to say anything to ANY female or Negro in the workplace other than “Good morning!”

    That’s IT.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @CalDre
    , @Boris Badenov
  50. klokman says:

    Chicken little cry-babies, who when pricked by an oak-mite or mosquito scratch at the itch until its a full-fledge infection. They make themselves most miserable and anyone who is in contact with them–who really wish they would grow up. The pettiness is choking.

    Advancement in communication technology has made it possible for these emotional pygmies to disrupt and churn sensible sociality.

    Hannah Arendt and the likes are thrashing in their graves.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  51. “Advancement in communication technology has made it possible for these emotional pygmies to disrupt and churn sensible sociality.”

    Only when handed the megaphone. Without the megaphone they’d be about as powerful as we are – less, because their ideas are worse.

    (Megyn has kept herself in shape, which is more than most people of her advanced age do, female or male)

  52. @milosevic

    I don’t know about firing the teacher for that, but discipline and retraining maybe. So I clicked agree.

    We have daughters, and any teacher who finds it funny to stick one of our girls with some intimidating or harassing kid of any background, will not find it funny for long once we find out. Just a bonus that this teacher found it funny to let some Latino tard mess with the girl.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  53. @CalDre

    Derb is from a generation where people thought it was fine to have an overflowing ashtray on their desk so what’s the problem with grabbing your secretary’s ass?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  54. Moi says:
    @WHAT

    She is a barracuda and a bigot. But her blackface remark was not a good reason to fire her.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  55. macilrae says:

    What struck me about her remarks was their mildness. People are outraged about that?

    They are told they should, no, that they must become outraged upon hearing such words. If you don’t feel it then get it on, Baby! Probably they only have a dim idea as to why but looking around and seeing all those others so enraged they join in and soon you may have a riot.

    Redirected anger and frustration.

  56. @Tom Welsh

    Perhaps we should have some standard office rules which include “no touching – of anyone by anyone – ever”.

    I agree. In many offices, shaking hands runs rampant. Even men and women shaking hands! Bare hands! Can we not recognize a sly sexual innuendo when it’s as obvious as looking someone directly in the eyes for more than one second?

    Even worse, those of a higher status often shake hands with those of a lower status, a clear signal of power maldistribution.

    For too long, society has ignored this inherently sexist behavior. Human Resources departments, start your engines!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  57. chris says:

    Puritans don’t laugh—except at the sight of a burning witch.

    … still, it couldn’t have happened to a better Witch (with a capital “B”)

  58. Truth says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Oh, BTW, that Megan Kelly is hot, or so it seems.

    He’s a handsome young man.

  59. @Phillip777

    Acronym People, hey I like that one, Phillip. May I steal it? It’s just a bit long, so I’ll call them APs.

    • Replies: @YawPitchRoll
  60. Truth says:
    @Anon

    Everytime…EVERYTIME I think the Unzistas have reached peak idiocy and there is nowhere else to go…

  61. @Square Wheeled Hot Rod

    Oh, yeah, they are rarin’ to go. Human Resources ladies are the scourge of the business world. (See also Part 2 and Part 3.)

  62. Wally says:
    @Iberiano

    Indeed, Trump Caught ‘Grabbing a Pussy’.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  63. @Johnny Smoggins

    … it was fine to have an overflowing ashtray on their desk so what’s the problem with grabbing your secretary’s ass?

    It’s still quite a bit better than what you people have and seem to like today, with HR grabbing anything that looks like an ashtray, and an overflowing ass on the secretary’s chair?

    You got it. Bon appetit, boys!

  64. @milosevic

    ‘…because what could possibly be funnier than setting up teenaged girls for sexual harassment, over their explicit objections?’

    I figured one of the new puritans — devoid of any actual humanity — would show up to self-righteously censor me for my post.

    You know what? Tough. I’ve no respect for your opinion whatsoever.

    • Replies: @Russ
    , @Rosamond Vincy
  65. @SIMPLEPseudonymicHandle

    ‘Like most teachers, you are a sadist on a power trip.’

    Would it help if I told you I got fed up with school district bureaucracy and quit long ago — like thirty years back?

    Otherwise, see my reply to the other ass who responded to my post.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  66. wayfarer says:

    Gab.com has been censored by their host, GoDaddy.
    source: https://gab.com/

    [MORE]

    Gab has spent the past 48 hours proudly working with the DOJ and FBI to bring justice to an alleged terrorist. Because of the data we provided, they now have plenty of evidence for their case. In the midst of this Gab has been no-platformed by essential internet infrastructure providers at every level. We are the most censored, smeared, and no-platformed startup in history, which means we are a threat to the media and to the Silicon Valley Oligarchy.

    Gab isn’t going anywhere.

    It doesn’t matter what you write. It doesn’t matter what the sophist talking heads say on TV. It doesn’t matter what verified nobodies say on Twitter. We have plenty of options, resources, and support. We will exercise every possible avenue to keep Gab online and defend free speech and individual liberty for all people.

    You have all just made Gab a nationally recognized brand as the home of free speech online at a time when Silicon Valley is stifling political speech they disagree with to interfere in a US election.

    The internet is not reality. TV is not reality. 80% of normal everyday people agree with Gab and support free expression and liberty. The online outrage mob and mainstream media spin machine are the minority opinion. People are waking up, so please keep pointing the finger at a social network instead of pointing the finger at the alleged shooter who holds sole responsibility for his actions.

    No-platform us all you want. Ban us all you want. Smear us all you want.

    You can’t stop an idea.

    As we transition to a new hosting provider Gab will be inaccessible for a period of time. We are working around the clock to get Gab.com back online. Thank you and remember to speak freely.

    Andrew Torba, CEO Gab.com

  67. @Truth

    Come on guys! Your standards are pretty high for well, basically anyone on the internet at this time of day.

    • Replies: @Truth
  68. Clyde says:
    @Wally

    Funny from you the big bad H denier! Gotta come back here and re-read The Derb and the more and mo’ better comments.

  69. Russ says:
    @silviosilver

    Front end: “The Marx of the Anti-Semites”

    Back end: WE ARE DOOMED!

    Got old, no?

  70. Never, ever hire a female or any of the members of the alphabet soup of sexual deviants in your business, or, you’ll be sorry.

    Ask me how I know.

    • Replies: @Rogue
    , @Anon
  71. Russ says:
    @Colin Wright

    Seems to me that your young Latina handled herself just fine. She thus offers a laudable role model for certain up-talking psychology professors at Palo Alto University who have selective memory at best and are downright liars at worst.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  72. @Achmed E. Newman

    Acronym = the letters are pronounced as though it’s a word. NATO. AIDS. Initialism = gotta pronounce the letters one at a time. FBI UCLA. I paid attention to this stuff in H.S. Thought it would be a chick magnet. I was wrong.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  73. Technomad says:

    This sort of nonsense strikes me as an excellent reason to never, no never, hire a woman for any position whatsoever. If called on it, just say “I found someone I liked better.” (or “I found someone whose qualifications were superior.”)

  74. c matt says:
    @WHAT

    She is not unattractive – she would never have been on TV (as a white woman) if she was unattractive.

  75. c matt says:

    The first example of sexual harassment, depending on the remarks, are a bit of a stretch. But actual unwanted physical contact? That seems pretty legitimate to me.

  76. @Russ

    ‘Seems to me that your young Latina handled herself just fine. She thus offers a laudable role model for certain up-talking psychology professors at Palo Alto University who have selective memory at best and are downright liars at worst.’

    Indeed. Since I’m dealing with someone who isn’t rushing to condemn me (a phenomenon which is interesting, but from my point of view not terribly enjoyable), I’ll mention something else.

    Of course I wasn’t attempting to promote sexual harassment. If anything, my intention was just the opposite; to stifle social interaction entirely. Jose and Lidia wound up at the same table because that was about the only pairing that would silence both of them.

    I would have thought that was obvious. The point was to teach algebra. This may come as a shock to people, but left to their own devices, many fourteen year olds don’t naturally prefer the mysteries of solving quadratic equations to pursuing their social life.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Russ
  77. @Colin Wright

    You are apologizing which proves them right.

  78. JLK says:

    It’s hard to believe that Megyn Kelly was dumped by NBC for such an innocuous comment. There must have been an underlying issue.

    She was a news anchor and supposedly wasn’t happy doing early morning infotainment. Have you ever watched those early morning shows? I almost never watch TV, but sometimes get stuck in waiting rooms such as at the repair shop at the auto dealer where they are inevitably being squawked. They are absolutely mindless drivel.

    I don’t know why someone like Kelly would care as she is essentially an actress and the evening news isn’t much better, but rumor has it she was unhappy.

    It wouldn’t surprise me at all if major network viewership is much lower than reported and there is massive fraud within the ratings agencies and advertising agencies. Of course I could be wrong and underestimating just how vapid the American viewing public really is.

  79. Rogue says:
    @Longfisher

    Ask me how I know.

    I’m seriously interested in your explanation. Can we have it in full? Thanks.

  80. @Colin Wright

    But civilized kids have been taught, by age 14, to sit still and pay attention to the material being taught instead of trying to pick up or bother the girls in the class. A classroom during the class period is not the place for “pursuing their social life.”

    We all had raging hormones at that age. Funny how most of us didn’t have any problem restraining ourselves, refraining from groping the girls EVER, refraining from hitting on the girls in the classroom, and doing our damn work.

    The point of your class was, indeed, to teach algebra. If the boy couldn’t control himself, throw him out. Teach to those who are ready, willing, and able to learn and allow others to learn. (Yeah, I have close family in “public” education and realize that the admin and school board might not back you up, to say the least, depending where you are teaching and how willing the parents of the misbehaving kid are to play the race card.)

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Corvinus
  81. @WHAT

    Um, don’t look at her face?

    • Replies: @WHAT
  82. @silviosilver

    I agree with Silvio on this. Nobody should be subjected to that type of touching on the job.

    However, PC is completely out of control. The Democrats are staking their entire platform on PC. I’ll be interested to see how the midterms work out.

    I think people are increasing fed up with the straitjacket of PC. And the Democrats are pursuing a losing gambit.

    We’ll see.

  83. @Truth

    Dude, if men looked like that, I would have considered a fundamentally different path in life. But they don’t, and she doesn’t look at all like a man, face or body.

    • Replies: @Truth
  84. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    What have you got against latinos?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  85. Russ says:
    @Colin Wright

    Also lost on the outrage addicts is how inexpensively pubescent Jose was taught a valuable lesson by the lass … who bolstered her own self-esteem by putting the boy in his place. Of course, the older this story is, the greater the likelihood that fathers were in the home, and the results are obvious. Today, as we’ve seen, such matters must immediately be elevated to the school board and, as of last month, the U.S. Supreme Court.

  86. @YawPitchRoll

    I had no idea, YPR, believe it or not. I thought I could not learn anything new, but then, there you go. People use the word “acronym” wrong all the time I guess, and I’d never even heard of “initialism” till just now.

    So, I guess my initialism for the “Initialism People” would be IPs. Hell, I’ll just go with “weirdos”, at least in a pinch.

    I knew a guy who said his Piper Apache was a chick magnet, so it takes all kinds … Those chicks must have had their poles set up wrong.

  87. Trevor H. says:
    @Merlin

    One of the settlements was for $250,000 dollars.

    Everyone but everyone is writing out money amounts this way now. To my chagrin Mr Derbyshire has joined up.

    It reads “two hundred fifty thousand dollars dollars” in case there’s any question. Another new trick is putting the dollar sign after the number. I don’t know where all of this is coming from. Immigrants?

  88. My Me I must be Godist or something!

  89. WHAT says:
    @RadicalCenter

    And pray to Allah too?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  90. Z-man says:

    The big gorilla in the room (pun intended) is Al Roker. He is a militant black man hiding in an ‘All American’ persona. He got Imus fired years ago from the NBC Network and the WFAN sports radio network. And now he helped get Kelly axed. He has more power than he deserves. But then again he’s black, fairly competent in what he does and has been with NBC for 30+ years. He’s an untouchable.
    Witch burning victim indeed. As much as I’m not a fan of hers I hope she takes NBC to the cleaners.

  91. @WHAT

    Definite touch of the Ann Coulter’s..

  92. Yes we take offence more easily today.

    Our standards are improving.

  93. Truth says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    No, I mean she’s literally a handsome young man…

  94. Truth says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Please see above post.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  95. dfordoom says: • Website
    @yurivku

    to hope that so called “The West” will destroy itself before destroying the whole world.

    I’m afraid that’s how I feel too these days. The West deserves to die. The sooner it happens the better.

  96. renfro says:

    What struck me about her remarks was their mildness. People are outraged about that?

    ]

    Agree,,,its ridiculous .

    If you’re not careful, the media will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.

  97. renfro says:
    @SIMPLEPseudonymicHandle

    I don’t see that as sadistic at all.
    Seems a pretty reasonable and imaginative way to handle the two kids……they are kids after all and dealing with kids does sometimes require a simple ‘social lesson’.
    No harm, no foul….lesson learned with out having to take it to a higher level and make a federal case out of it.

  98. @WHAT

    Huh? I’m not a Muslim and never will be, as would be apparent from my many earlier comments.

  99. @Anonymous

    Well, I’m willing to live in a majority-Latino place like LA, while I definitely would NOT be willing to live in a majority-African neighborhood or city, so there’s that.

    I will not, however, ever wear a shirt calling our MLB team “Los Doyers.”

  100. @RadicalCenter

    ‘…The point of your class was, indeed, to teach algebra. If the boy couldn’t control himself, throw him out. Teach to those who are ready, willing, and able to learn and allow others to learn. (Yeah, I have close family in “public” education and realize that the admin and school board might not back you up, to say the least, depending where you are teaching and how willing the parents of the misbehaving kid are to play the race card.)’

    Sigh. You did notice the bit about how I was teaching in East LA?

    Now, basically, there were three choices.

    1. Let kids talk. There were teachers who did that. To put it mildly, they weren’t as successful at teaching algebra as I was.

    2. Slam the kids with various punitive measures: detention, referral to the dean, phone calls to their parents. I wasn’t averse to these, but such measures weren’t my first choice.

    3. My first choice was measures such as I described. Put the kids where they wouldn’t want to talk. A classic was to park any talkative Chinese boys inside a circle of Hispanic girls. Instant silence all around. Of course, there being a decided shortage of talkative Chinese boys, this was of limited utility.

    Then there was what I did in the instance described. I didn’t have desks. I had two-person tables. So both Jose and Lidia were going to have to sit with somebody they wouldn’t talk to. Well, that pretty much led to the solution I chose.

    It was the unexpected outcome that was funny. And in the universe prior to the era of Neo-puritanism, it was pretty funny. Certainly almost everyone in the room thought so at the time. Even Jose did — and he’s the one who got slapped.

  101. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:

    “Racist” is whatever anyone has an interest (psychological or material) in labeling as racist, without the accused having any organized group backing them and unmasking the truth about accusations and accusers.

    So, you see, “white people” are all racists, because there never is lack of people with an interest in labeling them as such, and white people never organize to support other white people.
    2 + 2 = 4.

    Likewise, all men are perhaps mysoginists; surely, all white men are.

    Kelly was very hostile to Trump during the 2016 campaign, when her employers too were.

    • Replies: @Sir Launcelot Canning
  102. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Longfisher

    OK, I am asking you.

  103. The Lawyers are out to make a quick Shekel wherever they can, but this is a lot deeper than making easy money, but scrape away all the obfuscation and you will see this is all about dividing and conquering. If a nation is constantly at war with itself over sexism, racism, immigration or what have you, it’s easily controlled and manipulated. This is the present day with the US and other English speaking countries, always taking one step forward and two back. Russia, China, Korea and the rest of the world pay no heed to all this politically correct nonsense and are unified nations.

  104. @milosevic

    – because what could possibly be funnier than setting up teenaged girls for sexual harassment, over their explicit objections?

    Stupid girls, what made you think your dignity was of any importance, relative to others’ cheap amusement?

    This is the kind of misogynist bullsh** that actually manages to make Identity Politics look somewhat plausible. So thanks for that, a**hole. You should have been fired. The fact that you now would be, actually constitutes social progress.

    Well, the girl handled the situation in the old-fashioned way, the boy got a slap and was laughed at, and he was probably a bit wiser and more careful after that.

    The tendency nowadays would indeed be to fire the teacher, to pretend the girl was harmed for life and pay her compensation, and to put the boy on the sex offenders register for life. This is not my idea of “social progress”.

  105. @Truth

    Oh, c’mon, I got 2 minutes into this thing already. The narrator says she was a man, but has shown no evidence at all.

    I like that “…. shows some breasts there, congratulations … hide it in plain site.” “Sexy pose there … uh, men can do this to, shave their legs … get a boob job….” Haha, if this was a parody of small-time conspiracy theorists, than it’s a pretty good job, Truth.

    If you and the narrator don’t like that body at 03:13, then you are both fags, and that would explain everything.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    , @Truth
  106. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    its been encouraged by the talmudvision for about 4 decades at least now

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  107. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @niteranger

    She should have said something like why do many so many black celebrities light their skin…..should whites be offended?

    unfortunately white people don’t think like this yet. they’ve been under a deluge of shame and anti-white hate for quite a few years now

  108. @Achmed E. Newman

    If Kelly is a man, then there is no such thing as an African woman.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Jeff Stryker
  109. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    sounds like you weren’t woke yet to the miscegenation problem

  110. You must never apologize to these swine…

    On the contrary, you must now apologize to swine, for likening them to their inferiors.

    Puritans don’t laugh—except at the sight of a burning witch.

    Americans didn’t burn witches. We just hanged ’em. And skipped the drawing-and-quartering part.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  111. @Wally

    Why do black women wear white hair wigs?

    Why indeed? To look old?

  112. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tom Welsh

    But we should keep things in proportion. How often do women spontaneously touch men? The hand on the shoulder – or even the hand? Now some people will reply that it’s entirely different when women do it, because they aren’t filthy beasts with sex on their mind all the time.

    you’re comparing a hand on the shoulder to grabbing her ass.

    you don’t have the right to touch anyone so if you do, better do it in the right way

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  113. @SIMPLEPseudonymicHandle

    Like most teachers, you are a sadist on a power trip.

    Those who assign non-Hispanic teachers to East LA junior high schools are the real sadists.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  114. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Phillip777

    Anyway, the current rules are simple. Not only allowed, but encouraged: kill all the white people, castrate all the white men, vilify all those privileged skinny white bitches.

    anyone else notice that jews seem to have a fixation with castrating other men – i was once threatened with this online by what i think was a jew, then look at what was done to the Germans in the Nuremburg trails and also if i listen to people knowledgeable in old bible stuff the jews are at it again with this kind of thing – maybe it has to do with them regarding us as cattle?

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  115. @anon

    ‘…you don’t have the right to touch anyone so if you do, better do it in the right way’

    That one would be open to interpretation.

  116. Anon7 says:

    Maybe NBC will bring the show back, with the same staff, but with the story that Megyn died of an opioid overdose… oh wait, that was Roseanne. Maybe Megyn could die on the show from covering her body with blackface make-up, like the old canard about show dancers covered with gold body paint.

  117. Anonymous[391] • Disclaimer says:

    Hey you evil bigot British white man, don’t go making fun of picoaggressions. The quantum world has enough discrimination, what with all those evil white racist physicists wanting to impose their cis heteronormative patriarchal laws of physics on them. Why can’t they just let quarks be quarks and run free?

  118. @Reg Cæsar

    ‘Those who assign non-Hispanic teachers to East LA junior high schools are the real sadists.;’

    You need to lighten up. At least back in the day, East LA junior high schools could be fun. Lessee how many I can remember: Hollenbeck, El Sereno, Indiana. Then there was Burbank and Irving –not really East LA, but close enough. High schools: Lincoln, Garfield, Roosevelt, Eagle Rock, that other one…

    I kind of fell into teaching. Started out as a sub on an emergency credential, then picked up a permanent assignment at Lincoln High School. I wouldn’t go back, but lots of interesting memories. It was…educational.

  119. @anon

    Cocaine use-which really ravaged middle-class white colleges in the 1980’s-has probably declined.

    When I was 19 in 1993 and started university I met a few oldster grad students who were 27 or something and they would tell me how out-of-control cocaine use was in the 1980’s on campus.

    The excess of Fraternities are now diminished as well. There are less gang-rapes than there were back then of drunk co-eds.

  120. @anon

    You’re cattle if you allow yourself to be cattle. Which, for some reason, many whites do.

  121. @Reg Cæsar

    Which “Americans”?

    I never even met anybody from Puritan colonial stock in Detroit. We were all Polish, Germans (Recent arrivals like Trump), Irish-Catholics, Jews, Italians.

    Where would someone trace their roots to English puritans? New Hampshire?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  122. @anon

    I went to college and you cannot lay everything that goes on there on Hebrews.

    • Replies: @anon
  123. Sean says:

    I don’t see the connection between a minstrel act and the unbidden patting of an office girl’s bottom. Is there a tradition in Derb’s neck of the woods for blacking up in order to get away with sexual assault?

  124. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I went to college and….

    yes, we know

  125. John, I hope you don’t mind someone agreeing with you.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/legal-affairs/judges-say-lawyers-fuelling-family-conflict/news-story/d6b553fcba38f997a913ad5455c18492?utm_source=The%20Australian&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=KGBDossier

    The broader “trial lawyers” thing has slowly got more American over the decades as class actions became possible then advertised for, though the costs rules are still more restrictive than in the US.

    Sydney (where the convicts landed) has always suffered more from the aggressive litigators though Melbourne always had its ambulance chasers, often Labor Lawyers. In that regard old-fashioned Melbourne lawyers who called the union supported Labor firm of Slater & Gordon “Slugs and Bugs” must have got some pleasure out of that firm incorporating, going public, taking over a big UK firm….. and going broke. Especially if they were Liberals because Labor PM Julia Gillard had been a Slugs and Bugs lawyer (and left behind a bad smell even by their standards).

  126. Truth says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    No, I never had any burning desire to remove my scrotum.

  127. PS I am told by those I regard as absolutely authoritative that the days of “Oh, grow up George” and “Would you keep your hands to yourself please Larry” were not quite as you represent them because you neglect age and seniority differences. Think 16 year old typist and 32 year old nearly partner. Etc and many more examples.

  128. Truth says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    These are people who admit to being trannys. Please watch, than read Galatians 4:16.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  129. Them Guys says:
    @Wally

    Wally, I just wish Blacks would finally start to Drive vehicles like a White person does.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  130. Truth says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Sure there is. One who delivers a baby, which Mr. Kelly cannot do because he does not have a Y chromosome.

    Again, Galatians 4:16

    • Replies: @CalDre
  131. @njguy73

    CS Lewis said something similar:

    There is a story about a schoolboy who was asked what he thought God was like. He replied that, as far as he could make out, God was ‘the sort of person who is always snooping around to see if anyone is enjoying himself and then trying to stop it’.

  132. @Moi

    That wasn’t the reason. Her ratings were low. They were looking for a pretext and this was the best they could do.

  133. @Truth

    Wbat sort of person has the time and inclination to put together something so humourlessly silly? And what sort of person posts it without a warning that it’s a way to waste 10 minutes of your life?

  134. @Colin Wright

    I’m not sure you were deliberately setting up Lidia for harassment. Any possibility you were setting up Jose for a whuppin’?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  135. @Truth

    The problem with Nordic looks in women is that they end up looking like Nick Nolte (Kelly is Irish, German and Czech).

    The sun does no favors to their skin. Their bone-structure gets harsher as their skin gets less supple with age.

    • Replies: @Truth
  136. @Truth

    She’s just a sweet transvestite
    from trans-sexual Transylvania!

    Was that Tim Curry, or really Megan Kelly?

    • Replies: @Truth
  137. @MikeatMikedotMike

    African women are actually more feminine on the sheer level of fertility. Pregnancy and delivery are easier. This is why they have 4 to 5 children.

    It is also why trying to assimilate this sort of fertility into an Anglo-Saxon paradigm is difficult. An African girl reaches peak fertility at what? Age 14? Or 16?

    White women are going to have less difficulty avoiding pregnancy.

    Since our post-industrial technological society is structured around a maximum of 2 kids conceived by college-educated 5 figure earners in their thirties it is awfully difficult for races that evolved at other latitudes to adhere to this.

    Painful, almost.

  138. @Them Guys

    ‘Wally, I just wish Blacks would finally start to Drive vehicles like a White person does.’

    That reminds me. Ever notice how blacks never use their turn signals?

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  139. @Rosamond Vincy

    ‘I’m not sure you were deliberately setting up Lidia for harassment. Any possibility you were setting up Jose for a whuppin’?’

    I’m beginning to regret saying anything at all. Protestations of innocence are going to be futile, aren’t they?

  140. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iberiano

    Well said. I especially like this part:

    It’s doubtful she had not done the same take downs and attempted take downs to male co-workers coming up through her career

    Every time I watch one of these “Permit Patty” or “BBQ Becky” call-out videos this is exactly the sense I have: a woman (and it’s almost always a woman) with an entire adulthood’s worth of experience being a pain in the ass–not minding her own business, calling other people out–now gets a taste of her own medicine. Orwell wrote that you can distinguish the downtrodden from the privileged by the entitlement the latter carry around with them; in fact, they’re so used to getting their way and being in charge that any minor indignity sends them into a fury. Women in general have been conditioned to think of themselves as victims and thus beyond reproach, but older middle-class white women lost touch with the victimological hierarchy for a quick minute and now are shocked to learn that they’re not allowed to bully everyone.

    Kelly’s a hustler and now she got hustled. That the revolution consumes its own seems like poetic justice.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  141. anon[208] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brabantian

    Cultural Marxism? Please explain to the rest of us what Marx wrote on this.

    Or perhaps you mean the “multifarious social quacks” with no interest in the workers, who, Engels wrote, made it impossible for them to call their booklet “The Socialist Manifesto”.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  142. CalDre says:
    @Dr. X

    I refuse to say anything to ANY female or Negro in the workplace other than “Good morning!”

    If you are in a position of power at work that is also sexist or racist and can get you in trouble (not providing equal opportunity). But as you are using the term “Negro” I can see how the Civil Rights laws are a real challenge for you, but perhaps you don’t agree with the criminal Derbyshire that actual ass-grabbing is just a friendlier way to say “Good morning”.

    • Troll: MikeatMikedotMike
  143. @Anonymous

    Downtrodden Criticisms

    People who are downtrodden have kids when they are 19 or 20 when they have no money. They want to complain about people who have careers.

    People who are downtrodden sat on their ass in late adolescence. Didn’t get good grades, never got a trade etc.

    Women who are hot can sell their wares. Men pay for it, being suckers for the hot broad.

    People who are downtrodden don’t have the initiative to leave places that are downtrodden.

    • Replies: @anon
  144. @Colin Wright

    Protestations of innocence are going to be futile, aren’t they?

    That’s because you aren’t innocent. If you had been innocent, you would have told your story simply by saying, “Back when I was a teacher, I used to seat students next to others whom they would be unlikely to talk to.” But instead, you launched directly into a vignette about how enjoyable you found the scrap.

    It’s not hard to push people too far with this sort of thing. You could end up making some kid’s life so miserable that not only his academic performance but his psychological health deteriorates. You could have actual fights breaking out.

    If you like setting up creatures to go at it, then go find a dog-fighting ring or something. The kids aren’t there for your amusement.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @anon
  145. Truth says:
    @CalDre

    I know that Megan Kelly has pictures next to three children. Were you her Pediatrician? Did you watch her give birth?

    Good.

    My friend, I have made studies of this topic on which I write for over 5 years now. I don’t spend my time arguing with proles because there is no upside to it. The upshot is that the real world is a much…MUCH stranger place than you ever could have imagined, and that, like The Matrix, the world you have always thought is real is pretty much make believe.

    https://www.moonbump.com/

    Find God; and do it quickly.

  146. Truth says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    The problem with famous Nordic “women” is that they ain’t women.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  147. Truth says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Cute, my friend; but what did you think about 7 or 8 genetic men who are sexier than any woman you’ve been with?

    You see, Achmed, on the scale of celebrity Transpeople, MK is not even an attractive one. I had a feeling about her years ago before I really knew what the Androgyne Agenda was all about.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  148. Truth says:
    @CalDre

    I have no Megan Kelly obsession. I am simply stating a fact. I don’t think one response on one thread constitutes an obsession.

  149. @Truth

    That’s stretching the TRUTH a bit.

    • Replies: @Truth
  150. @Intelligent Dasein

    ‘…It’s not hard to push people too far with this sort of thing. You could end up making some kid’s life so miserable that not only his academic performance but his psychological health deteriorates. You could have actual fights breaking out.

    If you like setting up creatures to go at it, then go find a dog-fighting ring or something. The kids aren’t there for your amusement.’

    You are a sanctimonious little puritan who in all likelihood — unlike myself — has never done anything that actually benefitted anyone in any way.

  151. Them Guys says:
    @Colin Wright

    Yes I have….I once was gassing up my Harley Bike at the corner gas station in what was called, Warrendale, the ONLY remaining one square mile section of Detroit, that was almost all White Folk…meaning White owned homes etc…Still too many blacks passing thru to count. It is the Detroit area where about 1992 era, Blacks tried to open a prior long closed White grade school, within the neighborhood of all whites…Blacks called it an Malcolm X “academy”..! With an ALL Male Black students, school population!.( Dats Raasist!)….We soon had so Many blacks parents cars driving thru and parked in Our Curb side parking spaces, with Little space to park due to very small home lot sizes usually of, 120 ft deep X 40 Ft wide per single home lot, and narrow driveways that hold no more than, Two cars at best!….That black male school taught based on malcolm X & Islam!!!…Us Biker guys rallied along with white homeowners etc. And soon had entire school project shut Down never to return…Score one for Whiteys and White Bikers!…I did a huge 350 person Pig Roast at my crib, I had a double lot. I invited every neighbor out to a 1/2 mile away, most never came, but that method works swell to Halt objections to huge biker parties. If they don’t attend after personal invite?…They get a huge guilt complex if they complain of loud music etc or loud harleys. I got every single biker in the whole area, over a 1,000 bikers to agree to attend every white street protest untill that Black Male Only school is shut down…..It worked too!.. It was also Daily/Nitley on TV news two weeks as a very Huge issue. Okay back to Black drivers and such.

    [MORE]

    I had just finished gassing up, hanging pump nozzel back up onto pump station, when all of a sudden there was a very loud car crash sound…It litterally boomed so loudly, I felt it like when you feel the Drums & Bass at a Rock Concert!…..I quickly looked to the main intersection of streets named, W.Warren & Evergreen. Warren is main road with four lane blacktop, and evergreen is a two lane blacktop with a Red stop light at intersection….This was what I saw.

    The White driver in a brand new black sedan car, who I prior noticed was stopped at Red Light and he was On Warren ave. Minding own buisness etc… No other vehicles were behind him. All of a sudden, another dark color car close to brand new driven by some Negro African guy, slammed into rear end of White guys car waiting at red light…The black guy was going at least, 50 mph+ in a 35 mph speed limit zone…His car totaled white guys car at red light…Pushed entire rear end of car almost up to rear window!…Then white guys car ended up mid way in intersection…

    As Fast as I saw what just happened, I than saw at Least 8 More Black driven cars, going in every possible direction at a four way interrsection, with two of those black cars came up behind black guys car who caused accident…..Then just as fast as they all could slam on brakes and Jump out of all 8 cars….Every black driver, plus another half dozen or more various black pedestrians out and about in area on sidewalks etc…All Fast Ran to accident scene, and began Screaming at top of lungs, that…”I seen it! Its dat white crackahs fault, uh huh!”…me too! Me Too! I seenz it allz and dat whiteboy he beeez at fault!….I beez Yo Witless too Bro! and so on.

    Every single black, now numbering well over a dozen plus, yelled about how they should drag dat whiteboy out of his car and beat him silly…..Reason for such vicious black anger? 2-Reasons mainly.

    #1…Blacks simply HATE Whiteys!, and #2…Like Jews, Blacks always stick together like super glue.

    One extremely Fat assed black women that drove up direct behind black driver at fault, jumped out of her car as fast as possible, and screamed how she saw it all, and it was the whitey guys fault, because, she claimed she Saw white driver, stopped at red light…Put his car into Reverse and Floor gas pedel to Back Up Into Black at fault drivers car!!!….Riiigghhhht!…Like anyone is ever going to stop at red light, and soon as he spots a negro driver coming up at rear, is going to shift gears into Reverse so he can smash the car coming up behind his car!

    Yet once that fat ass black bitch said it was fact and true, all the blacks present there chimed in and like a chorus singing out….Screamed it was white guys fault for backing up at fast speed and Into Black guy behind him….Them savages were ready to kill the white guy who himself looked injured to me. White guy was not able to fully exit his car due to injuries. Probably due to massive Fear of so many savage black animals at one time too, eh.

    Them black asshole driver “witlessneses” had their 8 cars stopped in every direction and blocking all traffic in every direction for at least 20 min or so until a Detroit Traffic cop car arrived on scene.

    I went over to speak to that Cop, found out I knew him a little from the neighborhood etc, and I advised him as to every detail and how it Was black drivers fault 100%…Cop said just by a glance at what happened it was obviously a car hit in rear episode which is 99.99% always rear driver at fault.

    Good luck in convincing any of them Low IQ Idiotic and savage monkey animal drivers of that fact though. Times like that is when one wishes no live witness is present, and one can remain behind good solid cover and…TCB so to speak…aka tcb= Take Care of Buisness! if you get that meaning.

    PS: I place leaving Detroit behind fully back in, 1995 to go 200 miles North in Mich. as same rate of success and best overall decisions I ever made, right up there along with decision to quit school after eighth grade, age 15 yrs old, and stop doing catholic church same time frame…..and Self-Educating ever since….Them commies and bastards never got their hooks set very deep in me!

    And my later on exit from Detroit and its related areas etc…Next best ever I ever chose to do.

    Now daily Rush Hour traffic consists of “Maybe” as many as 5-6 Cars including mine at main and only red light in Town center!….Plus each driver is a White driver….Everybody here waves hello and acts like Family….Even complete strangers…It just takes about 2 full years to get fully accepted as one of their own, as folks are a bit leary to new comers even whitey new neighbors.

    I Thank God I am White!…Thank you, Thank you, thank you! Cannot imagiane being anything else but White. How can them others even live with their selves is a huge mystery.

  152. Truth says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Geoffrey, I can only wish it was.

  153. Them Guys says:
    @Colin Wright

    Colin Ignore them. They all sound a lot like, typical dem lib & females, that are part of the…Know what’s best for everyone bunch, with a good mix of Gotcha’s & Metoo! types…Just always seeking out one they can rally against and gang up on.

    I do not see how in world you or anyone else can or could have been a school teacher if held job after say, 1960’s era….To not have gone full on lunatic, nor ended up in a prison for harm done to a savage student is an great accomplishment on its own. Of course I went to Detroit Public schools, except for 1st grade at a Catholic school. And I had live personal experience with such Minorities and savages and idiots which began in 2nd grade, after first black family moved onto my street. All Down Hill afterwards. And took them just a total of less than, 5 yrs time, from first blacks moved in, to full Detroit Melt down, Lootings and Riots. All Down Hill ever since…So much for that..”We are All the exact Same…Except for skin color!” nonsense…No…We…Are…Not!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  154. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    If you like setting up creatures to go at it, then go find a dog-fighting ring or something. The kids aren’t there for your amusement.

    for some reason teachers like to run these little experiments

    who granted them permission? i guess we’ll never know

  155. @Truth

    OK, I gotta get some stuff done here. I invested over 3 minutes into that other video which had nothing but a nice bikini shot. I won’t watch any more of them. This was just fun and games, as I don’t see that, even if there is some secret conspiracy about women that were actually men before, and we’re not supposed to know, what the hell of it? Why is this important, Truth?

    I think it’s just that you can’t have her. OK, I can’t either, but I’m not gonna dwell on it and go on-line to see whether she used to be a man. Honestly, if I had had a chance to have sex with this lady, and was none the wiser at the time that she used to be a man, I don’t think finding this out later would bother me. Maybe it would …

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Truth
  156. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    People who are downtrodden sat on their ass in late adolescence. Didn’t get good grades, never got a trade etc.

    how do you know?

    People who are downtrodden don’t have the initiative to leave places that are downtrodden.

    if for example they are “downtrodden” because they only have an 80 or a 70 IQ or maybe they have a drug problem thanks to the Sacklers, moving to the next city may not help them that much at all

    you seem to think your individual life experiences would apply to everyone else as well

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  157. @klokman

    ‘Chicken little cry-babies, who when pricked by an oak-mite or mosquito scratch at the itch until its a full-fledge infection. They make themselves most miserable and anyone who is in contact with them–who really wish they would grow up. The pettiness is choking.’

    The irony is that those who have suffered actual, meaningful trauma tend to prefer not to discuss it.

    Things really are tough all over — and it’s exasperating to hear those who have been so lucky as to have no idea of the possibilities bleat about their petty little brush with minor irritation. A…a man once touched your arm? A security guard followed you around a store?

    That’s it? Okay, so you’ve been lucky. Why are you telling us?

  158. Them Guys says:
    @anon

    Cultural Marxism, is the name given to mean…The Frankfurt School’s, agendas. Frankfurt school leaders were a half dozen or so German Jews, that knew they and their commie crap psycho babble teachings and agendas were going to get Booted Out from Germany in early 1930’s. They then set sights upon America. Especially the Universities to spread their crapolas and teach/create a whole new class of, Future school and college teachers and professors who would teach and promote that commie crap agenda.

    They also realized that unlike how they hijacked Russia, and later on every eastern European nation, Via a full on, Bloody Jewish Revolt against Whites and Christians which began in 1917 Russia with their Jewish Bolsheviks as top leaders…..That such a bloody revolt will Never work if tried in America. Due to many reasons but mainly due to Americans have the 2nd amdnt, have 1/2 of entire Population armed to teeth, and have Natural God Granted Rights aka freedoms and liberty and the Bill of Rights etc.

    And not being stupid of course, them Frankfurt Commie Jews didn’t desire for them selves to get into any revolt where the avg peoples can actually fight back, and Win. A national Win where most if not every Jewdeo Commie ends up, deader than a door nail.

    So, they instead invented a whole new type nation wrecking take over and hijacking folks call, Cultural Marxism….Its no other than Jewish commie Frankfurt School tactics and agendas.

  159. @Anon

    “…white people never organize to support other white people.”

    True. But why is it true? My guess is that most white Americans are in denial about their current predicament. They still think that they have the unquestioned majority status that they had until the 1990s or 2008. I see that Mr. Unz has something at the top corner of this website to donate and join the Unz Review forum. I hope that the people that have joined up already are discussing this very thing: The National Association For the Defense of White People. If it were formed, and the Left opposed it, then there would be absolutely no question about the Left’s hatred of white people. If Jews get the ADL, and blacks get the NAACP, then why can’t whites / gentiles get organized and defend themselves?

    I looked into joining Identity Evropa. They assumed that I used Skype. I don’t. So I didn’t get very far with that, either. Has anyone else here at Unz joined IE?

    I would like to pay the small fee to join Unz. I looked into it and I would have been required to join the Patreon page. I didn’t feel like I wanted an account with them so I did not complete the registration. But if there were a big Paypal donate button on this page I would click on it. And I don’t care what Ron does with (some of) the money. Since he has been good enough to provide us with these articles and forums, not to mention his very thorough research and articles.

  160. Anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    The Derb writes:

    “This is the world we live in. Guided by the trial lawyers, and the merchants of racial grievance, we are drifting back to a stiff kind of Puritanism.

    I don’t like Puritanism. I like to laugh.

    Puritans don’t laugh—except at the sight of a burning witch.”

    I respond:

    One of my family members noticed this and said the following:

    “The Puritan tradition in America (now all Feminists, Lib Leftists and increasingly Cucks) is that somewhere, someplace someone is having a good time”.

    This is what unites all the Anti Trumpers, all the most bitter feminists, Jewesses on the New York Times, writing lies in Rolling Stone Magazine, all the talking heads on CNN and MSNBC…..

    They are very very unhappy with their lives and they are obsessed that some American guy or gal is having a good time, doing some partner dancing, having a beer and enjoying a laugh.

  161. @Them Guys

    ‘…Of course I went to Detroit Public schools…’

    I’d never have considered teaching at a black school. I heard war stories from those who taught at inner city black schools…and experienced it as a student myself. Just to cite an illustrative example of how bad things can be, in my puppy years, I once had a temporary job delivering phone books. I was in South Central LA, and delivering one to a black junior high school. It was this three story rectangular building, occupying about a third of a city block.

    Approaching it on foot from two blocks away, the building was emitting this roaring noise. It was literally incredible.

    No…not for me. When I was looking for a position, I drew a circle on a map and only contacted schools inside that circle. That wasn’t how I was supposed to do it, but I had no intention of winding up at a black school.

    Here’s the thing. There are some kids who are potentially disruptive. They’re not necessarily bad — usually just lively. However, they are disruptive. If anything, the fact that they can be likable makes it harder to deal with them.

    Now, among East Asians, maybe one kid in a hundred will fit this description. Among both whites and Hispanics, it’s about one in ten. Maybe somewhat less, but say one in ten.

    With blacks, it’s about one in two. If a class has more than — say — two such students, control is going to start to become an issue. Do the math on what’s going to happen if the class is predominantly black.

    There are teachers who can ride herd on that. Not very many, though — nor was I one of them. Nor did I intend to try.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  162. @anon

    How Do You Know-

    I knew all of them in the 90’s when I was young. Scott, the off-campus drug dealer who was 22 and already on the run from child support ended up living in a trailer with his mother. Tasha, his girlfriend, ended up pregnant by another man who went to prison for homicide before the child was born. I’ve known all of them, in my youth.

    All of them thought they were studs getting girls pregnant at 20, 22. Now they are 40 and have nothing. Probably their kids had shitty lives. It was not as if they had money for their kids college educations.

    Maybe they have a drug problem-

    The career druggies actually have a trade. They can move to any city and deal drugs. I knew one cocaine fiend in college who moved to Florida to sell drugs and apparently did quite well from it.

    In general though once you get into crack or meth you cannot go 24 hours without a hit. So of course you are stuck in one place.

    My experience with white proles was an astonishment at how young they got into drugs. At 12 they are smoking pot and at 14 they are into meth. Drugs flow freely in poor neighborhoods.

    Individual Life Experiences-

    If you are 25 and have nothing going on in the US and manage to find a job overseas it can be helpful.

    I never married in the US or had dependents.

    So I was able to do whatever I wanted. Travel, work where I wanted.

    I recall talking to Stanley on FACEBOOK years later. He was a Polish guy from Flint who dropped out when he got a girl pregnant. He returned to Flint to run a tanning salon.

    His life was fairly depressing. His wife divorced him anyhow and his once-pleasant Polish neighborhood became full of hookers and crime. In his case, he could not give his house away and I don’t think he had the gas money to go anywhere.

    I sort of pitied him.

    That could have been me.

    • Replies: @anon
  163. @Colin Wright

    Don’t care what “Jose” or any disruptive or harassing/handsy kid thought was funny, but certainly appreciate the difficulty of your situation teaching is East LA. Or anywhere in LAUSD.

    We have a friend who is also a FORMER LAUSD teacher, thoroughly disgusted with the place.

  164. @Achmed E. Newman

    There’s no “used to be a man.” There’s someone who is and always will be a man, just that he has paid evil doctors to mutilate his body and pump him with artificial hormones. In a sad attempt to be something that he can never be.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  165. @Them Guys

    ‘…Now daily Rush Hour traffic consists of “Maybe” as many as 5-6 Cars including mine at main and only red light in Town center!….Plus each driver is a White driver….Everybody here waves hello and acts like Family….Even complete strangers…It just takes about 2 full years to get fully accepted as one of their own, as folks are a bit leary to new comers even whitey new neighbors…’

    Yeah. I moved up to southern Oregon last Spring.

    …and I realized. This is the first time I’ve lived in an all-white area in my life.

    Funny how nice it is.

  166. @Them Guys

    ‘…All Fast Ran to accident scene, and began Screaming at top of lungs, that…”I seen it! Its dat white crackahs fault, uh huh!”…me too! Me Too! I seenz it allz and dat whiteboy he beeez at fault!….I beez Yo Witless too Bro! and so on…’

    Yeah. Even taking them at their best, honesty is decidedly not blacks’ strong suit. You just cannot give serious credence to a statement made by a black. Sometimes I think they’re genuinely unaware of the concept of ‘truth’ as an external, objective thing existing apart from their desires and impulses.

    Of course that’s arguably a general human failing — but its decidedly more pronounced among blacks than among any other group I’m aware of.

  167. Ron Unz says:
    @Colin Wright

    It was the unexpected outcome that was funny. And in the universe prior to the era of Neo-puritanism, it was pretty funny. Certainly almost everyone in the room thought so at the time. Even Jose did — and he’s the one who got slapped.

    Well, offhand it came across as a pretty mild and funny story to me about how a teacher could best handle a couple of very mildly disruptive early teen students.

    Frankly, it almost seems like something that (maybe except for the slap) could have been an episode on that old Andy Griffith television show…

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  168. Truth says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    This was just fun and games, as I don’t see that, even if there is some secret conspiracy about women that were actually men before, and we’re not supposed to know, what the hell of it? Why is this important, Truth?

    What fun and games? These people admit to being genetic males, and they are all “sexier” than Megan Kelly.

    And why is it important that you can tell a man from a woman?

    My friend, with all possible respect, because I generally like your content, have you lost your mind?

    I think it’s just that you can’t have her. OK, I can’t either,

    You’re not getting it Bro. I am a hetrosexual male. I have no interest in being with a man. Not one that wears makeup, not one that does not. You can CERTAINLY have her. If I came to my house and this person was naked in my bedroom I would call the police.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @anon
  169. @Colin Wright

    I remember in a public junior high in my city a black kid was stabbed to death by a black kid adjacent to the school.

    In those days (1988) there was no DNA.

    The kid was never apprehended. The other black kids either did not talk or did not know (In those days).

    Its scary to think a killer walked the halls of that junior high. He probably walks among us to this day.

    As for Hispanics, I suspect the number of disruptive students is higher than that of whites. And those that are not disruptive are still muggers and criminals and gang members. Some are pushing dope and don’t want to constantly be busted.

    The perfect Asian student is sort of exaggerated.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  170. @Colin Wright

    Oh c’mon, you were hoping she would clock him; you weren’t allowed to do it yourself.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  171. @Jeff Stryker

    ‘The perfect Asian student is sort of exaggerated.’

    Sort of. You’re making me smile. I remember my first year teaching, there was this Chinese kid in my geometry class. He’d keep talking — but every time I’d glance over at him, he’d give me this ‘me, talk? I’m Chinese’ expression. Perfect, moon-faced innocence.

    He’s the one I parked in a nice circle of Hispanic girls. That shut him up (cue the Puritan trolls).

    As to Hispanics vs whites, let me first make clear I’m talking about Mexicans et al — Indio-white as opposed to black-white. I did deal with both Hispanics and whites — with Hispanics both as a sub and as a regular teacher, and with whites as a substitute.

    I’d say I actually prefer Hispanics. Even when they’re acting up, there’s a certain attitude of respect for you as an adult and a teacher. White kids can be irritatingly familiar (cue Puritan trolls again).

    This is far from saying Mexicans are angelic — merely that I don’t find them any worse than whites.

    Curiously, one group that supposedly are absolute devils — although I never had the dubious pleasure of verifying this in person — are Armenian boys. Apparently, to control them, you need to hit them — hard. Like, deliver a good hard slap, and you’ll have class control. They can do that in Armenian private schools. In public schools, it’s not a feasible tactic.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  172. @Rosamond Vincy

    ‘Oh c’mon, you were hoping she would clock him; you weren’t allowed to do it yourself.’

    No, I really wasn’t. I liked both of them — it’s just that I had to modify their behavior.

    Second, that’s precisely what was so funny. The sheer unexpectedness of it. I can still see their faces — and that was over thirty years ago. Oh, Lidia was pissed…(cue the Puritan troll)

    • Replies: @anon
  173. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    moving from one town to the next doesn’t necessarily help

    changing your behavior does

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  174. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Them Guys

    It is the Detroit area where about 1992 era, Blacks tried to open a prior long closed White grade school, within the neighborhood of all whites…

    are you sure it was blacks and not (((blacks)))?

    the idea that blacks would do something like this on their own seems kind of far fetched

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  175. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    No, I really wasn’t. I liked both of them — it’s just that I had to modify their behavior.

    yeah, you just had to

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  176. Ron Unz says:
    @Colin Wright

    I’d say I actually prefer Hispanics. Even when they’re acting up, there’s a certain attitude of respect for you as an adult and a teacher. White kids can be irritatingly familiar (cue Puritan trolls again).

    This is far from saying Mexicans are angelic — merely that I don’t find them any worse than whites.

    Well, I’ve never taught in the public schools, but that wouldn’t surprise me a bit.

    It relates to something I was just mentioning to someone else. I’ve lived in CA nearly my entire life, and the politics of the state have followed an interesting trajectory.

    Back in the mid-1960s, it was the whitest large state in the country, probably close to 85% white European. And now it’s the least white large state, probably not much over 30% white European.

    But in recent years, I’d say the politics of the state have been quieter and less agitated than any period since 1966 when the (overwhelmingly white) unrest at Berkeley helped Reagan unseat Gov. Pat Brown. For decades afterward, CA went through all sorts of different political convulsions and was (correctly) known as one of the craziest in the country. But these days things are so extremely quiet and boring, it doesn’t even get in the national media nearly as much as it used to, except business news relating to the Tech industry and Hollywood.

    Obviously, CA still has all sorts of serious problems such as housing, low wages, and expensive healthcare. But those are pretty “boring” sorts of problems.

  177. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Boring if you’re in the 0.1%.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Truth
  178. @anon

    ‘…yeah, you just had to…’

    Assuming I wanted to do my job properly, I did indeed have to.

    Of course, if one takes the position that algebra shouldn’t be taught, then you’d have an argument — but if I felt that way, it would have been a tad hypocritical of me to accept a salary for teaching it, don’t you think?

  179. @Truth

    lol. No one can be that delusional, not really, so mad props to the guy who made that video. Some great performance art.

  180. @Ron Unz

    ‘Well, offhand it came across as a pretty mild and funny story to me about how a teacher could best handle a couple of very mildly disruptive early teen students.

    Frankly, it almost seems like something that (maybe except for the slap) could have been an episode on that old Andy Griffith television show…’

    Indeed. The reaction to the story among those who know me has usually been like yours…except when they have to tactfully remind me I’ve told the story before.

    The reaction from some here is clinically interesting — or would be, if I weren’t the target of their abuse.

  181. @RadicalCenter

    Agreed. It was just my expression. Yeah, if you ended up serious with someone who really had been “transformed”, you’d probably realize that something is not right at all!

  182. @Truth

    Why are you (or is anybody) worried about it, is my question? Not unless you do happen to marry her and learn the “real deal”, that is. It’s not like this is an existential problem for the nation like uncontrolled immigration is (a lot of the talk on Sailer/Derbyshire/etc.).

    If I came to my house and this person was naked in my bedroom I would call the police.

    We’ll just call you Tattletale Truth then. ;-}

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Truth
  183. @Achmed E. Newman

    I cannot edit after publishing due to lack of a script, per Ron Unz, so I thought of a better one just now. You can call 9-1-1 for something like this, Truth, cause you are a black man. I’m a white guy. What am I supposed to do? They’ll call me a Becky or something. I guess I’d just go ahead and do Megan Kelly, were I in your situation, then call it a lesson learned. Then I’d have a cigarette, watch one of your videos, and listen to The Kinks:

  184. anon[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    Her body at least looks very feminine. Since you disagree, who’s your ideal female then?

    • Replies: @Truth
  185. Truth says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    My friend, “Secret Weapon T” is our most telling, existential problem right now. And it’s so far ahead of everything else, that there is not second place.

    The average prole has absolutely no idea how this world works or the hidden, occult nation behind why it does.

    It took me well over three years of intense research as to the deeper meaning of the T-Agenda, in which we are well into to midst. It would take you about 6 months to even scratch the surface, provided you cared, and if you can look at a tranny and still say, “yeah, i’d hit that, wouldn’t even feel bad about it” then the purpose for which they started this conspiracy worked.

    One more video in case you are interested:

    Oh, and I have no particular dislike or feeling one way or another about this transsexual or any other, I responded because you termed this person as “hot”, and I responded with the truth, “he’s a handsome young man.”

    Is there any sense of great “concern” insinuated there? YOU ran with it from there.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  186. Truth says:
    @anon

    Her body looks like that of a boy who was castrated before puberty and given copious amounts of estrogen. No offense to this person, but as I said earlier, “she” is not even one of the convincing ones; and I can point to no one as my ideal female who you would have heard of because, and here is the big finish:

    If you have seen “her” on TV, “she” is a “he”. It was the Case during Japanese No Theatre, during Ancient Greek and Roman theatre, and during Shakespearean theatre, it is a tradition with entertainers, and has mind-numbingly difficult as this is to believe; it is true. Don’t worry about “why” at this point.

  187. @Jeff Stryker

    I never even met anybody from Puritan colonial stock in Detroit…
    Where would someone trace their roots to English puritans? New Hampshire?

    My father was a ninth-generation Michiganian, and he had plenty of Puritan stock. (As well as a trace of French-Canadian from the first Detroiters.)

    When Michigan achieved statehood in 1837, “Michigan fever” broke out in western New York state, to the point of an estimated 85% of new settlers coming from there. (I don’t know if that number includes those, like mine, who spent a few years in Indiana or Ohio along the way.) The great majority of those “York Staters” were the grandchildren of New Englanders.

    And they intermarried with later arrivals. My Michigander cousin’s husband is 3/4 Polish. But through the other quarter, he’s a Mayflower descendant and approximately ninth cousin to his wife. Their grandchildren carry his name (rare even at home in Poland), yet are less than a quarter Polish themselves.

    The Society of Mayflower Descendants in Michigan lists eight among their leadership with non-English names.

    http://www.michmayflower.org/leader.htm

  188. @Phillip777

    the Acronym People

    Does this mean I’m afflicted with Acrophobia?

    Believe me, any moral posturing is total BS, it’s all about ratings and moola…

    Not allowed: any remark, not matter how true, regarding blacks, hispanics, Jews/Israel, and any member of the Acronym People (LBLT whatever…)

    Those sentences seem to contradict each other. Unless ratings are primarily driven by those groups, rather than (what’s left of) the majority.

  189. @Iberiano

    Well, women use whatever tool they have to make a career. If you go back 50 years the liberal and feminist culture was still weak and society protected white men from white women who lied about harassments and rape. However, today it is possible for white woman to do this and make a career even if it means that they destroy white men lives. However, white women are white women and as you say. White women have only been granted these extensive (and often abusive) rights to hurt white men. Megyn Kelly thought she was excluded from the anti-white culture. She was not and as soon she said something the liberal elite did not like she was out. I do not believe in this Puritan nonsense. You see the same thing all over the Western World. Liberals controls academia, politics, non-governmental organizations, finance, media, corporations, unions, think tanks, bureaucracy and entire professions (everything from doctors to primary school teachers). As soon liberals lose power over these institutions everything turns to normal. If you get rid of the elites and replace them with right-wing national-conservatism and feminism will come to an end pretty soon. This is what the Hungarian and the Poles are doing right now. They cut down liberalism wherever they find it. Hence, they building a new culture.

  190. @Ron Unz

    ‘…But these days things are so extremely quiet and boring, it doesn’t even get in the national media nearly as much as it used to, except business news relating to the Tech industry and Hollywood…’

    I think your interpretation of the silence is optimistic. It exists because Hispanics are now such a large proportion of the popuation — and Hispanics are almost completely disengaged from politics. That leaves government open to control by the Left and their pet minorities — and they pursue policies that are obviously very destructive to any functional society. Most visibly, see the huge encampments of the homeless in Los Angeles and the Bay Area — but it hardly ends there. The mayor of Oakland, for example, recently called in all seriousness for stripping certain white defendants of the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. Gay marriage was rammed through against the repeatedly expressed wish of the majority. Sales tax is now close to ten percent. I believe California’s state income tax is one of the most radically progressive in the nation. At the moment, a high speed rail is being built that terminates in an orange grove outside Fresno.

    If things are quiet, it’s the quiet of the grave. The democratic process, in several senses of the word, has simply ceased. The majority simply ignores politics, and the minority pursues a frivolous and irresponsible agenda.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  191. @Truth

    … if you can look at a tranny and still say, “yeah, i’d hit that, wouldn’t even feel bad about it”

    Yeah, because I don’t believe you.

    I responded because you termed this person as “hot”, and I responded with the truth, “he’s a handsome young man.”

    … which I took as a joke, because, well, otherwise, you’re way out there, man. That brings me back to my point. Even if you are not in the mood to write about the existential (for the nation) immigration problem, as that is indeed NOT the subject of the author’s post, don’t you think feminism is one of the major problems of our society, Truth? This post is somewhat related to feminism, as there wouldn’t even be bubble-headed-bleached-blond news anchors if men did this work, as in the old days.

    I don’t know if you have a family, Truth, but dealing with the BS out of the public (and other) schools each day to teach your kids actual Truth, and fighting to keep them off the screens until they can learn more from you, makes you realize that this matriarchy we live under is a much bigger deal than some trannies, or secret cabal that embeds them in society.

    Believe me, I think the whole tranny thing should be treated as the rare weirdo thing that it really is (and I’ve run into 2 people that “changed into women” in my life*, probably more than most have). Your fixation on this non-problem and that moon business under the Paul Kersey post makes me wonder a bit, though you otherwise seem normal.

    * The first was telling me that that’s what he was going to do, and the 2nd I knew as a very normal guy, and just heard later on about it from someone else.

    • Replies: @Truth
  192. @Ron Unz

    Are the politics not boring because it’s a one-party state? I don’t think there was a lot of violence in elections to the Politburo, in nations that had Politburos (if you know what I mean, cough, Communism, cough, cough…)

  193. Johan says:

    The liberal sixties generations, liberal progressivism being rooted in sexual promiscuity and drug abuse, have become establishments. Being establishments they now have to create a facade of dignity, no worries, one can always enjoy all kinds of things underground if you are part of the establishment, or enjoy what is condoned or promoted by them…

  194. Ron Unz says:
    @Colin Wright

    I think your interpretation of the silence is optimistic. It exists because Hispanics are now such a large proportion of the popuation — and Hispanics are almost completely disengaged from politics… The majority simply ignores politics, and the minority pursues a frivolous and irresponsible agenda.

    Well, I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but the negative aspects you’re describing seem nationwide as well. For example, Gay Marriage was rammed through against the wishes of the CA majority, but exactly the same thing happened everywhere else in America.

    Certainly CA politics is almost totally dominated by the ultra-wealthy, but they’re also the ones hit hardest by the ultra-progressive income tax rates you decry. Meanwhile, I think property taxes are among the lowest in the country, which benefits the longtime homeowner.

    Except for the extremely high cost of housing, I think most of the negative things in CA are found elsewhere, while we’ve avoided many of the current problems in other states.

    Considering all the past riots, bitter racial conflict, and very high crime rates, I think in many respects CA is better off than it’s been for about fifty years.

  195. @anon

    “Changing your behavior”

    Most of the decisions these type of people make they do young, very young. And it more or less sucks them in for life.

    You’ll find that most hardcore druggies starting with pot at age 12 and have been doing hard drugs since age 14. A frat guy who gets into coke at college at age 21 might become an addict but once he stops he is more or less the same. The real lifelong addicts started doing drugs when they were so young that their brain was still developing and formed around addiction.

    Once someone gets into a hardcore drug and commits felonies to get more, that is it. There are many jobs he can never get.

    The same goes for pregnancy. If you become a single parent after 25 you might be alright. If you become a single parent at 19 or 20 it is a serious handicap. If you become a single parent at 17 it is far more difficult. You can hardly have a career.

    I’ve mentioned Stanley. He had a kid halfway through college and returned to Flint. He no longer had the money to leave Flint. He’s been stuck there ever since. The place got worse and worse but he did not have the money to flee the state.

  196. Meanwhile, I think property taxes are among the lowest in the country, which benefits the longtime homeowner.

    In California? Webmasta’, please! Yes, I know for some old Prop-13 properties, but where I live, in a good neighborhood, it’s under $1 /sq-ft yearly.

    Considering all the past riots, bitter racial conflict, and very high crime rates, I think in many respects CA is better off than it’s been for about fifty years.

    California was a Paradise 50 years ago, and not just the town in the Sierras.

    They called it Paradise.
    I don’t know why
    you call someplace Paradise,
    and kiss it goodbye.

    California, a prophet on your burnin’ shore,
    California, I’ll be knockin’ on the golden door.
    Like an angel, standin’ in a shaft of light,
    risin’ up to Paradise.
    You know I’m gonna shine …

    They’ll be nothing like that ever again. I can’t expect many currently living there to understand.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  197. @Ron Unz

    REASONS

    Crack cocaine went out of style. With no demand for it, there is less reason to join a gang because drug sales are the economy that gangs stand on. Less blacks smoke crack now. It declined in popularity because of its deleterious effects and there was no longer an underground economy to prop up gangs.

    Koreans no longer own stores in the black ghetto. This was a huge source of conflict but the LA riots came and they were burned out. The businesses became black owned.

    Hispanics took over black neighborhoods anyhow. They simply overran them.

    Whites moved out of Los Angeles to such a degree that there was NOBODY TO ROB OR RAPE.

  198. Ron Unz says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    California was a Paradise 50 years ago, and not just the town in the Sierras.

    Sure, I’d agree that CA was pretty much a true American paradise in the 1950s and early 1960s.

    But after that, there were the Watts Riots, the huge wave of Zebra killings in SF and elsewhere, the Mansons, extremely high urban crime rates, the LA Riots, and all the bitter racial turmoil of the 1990s.

    Also, don’t forget the economic collapse of the early 1990s and the Housing Meltdown of the late 2000s, along with the enormous state budget deficits.

    Although these other problems have disappeared and things are pretty quiet and peaceful these days, I’m certainly not claiming we’ve returned to the paradise conditions of the early 1960s. I think the biggest reason is that the population has more than doubled since then, so things are much more crowded, housing is much more expensive, and worker wages are much lower. Most of that population growth has obviously been driven by immigration, and that’s been the biggest negative of immigration.

    But just think of what CA was like in 1968 or 1994. Wouldn’t you agree things are much more peaceful these days?

  199. @Ron Unz

    HISPANIC IMMIGRATION CAUSE/EFFECT

    Hispanic gangs have more or less driven the black ones out. The days of non-stop tribal warfare in COLORS-era is gone because cartels back Mexican gangs. Crips and Bloods cannot match their money or firepower.

    Nobody smokes crack anymore anyhow and the blacks and Hispanics never got into white-collar crime like Italians eventually did. There was nothing they could do but steal cars and sell drugs.

    Whites can get their fix from their doctor and he doesn’t do drive by shootings.

    There are so many Hispanics that blacks are just getting driven out of LA. Oakies and lower class whites in my experience were either driven out or intermarried with Hispanics-a Mestizo group to begin with.

    Up North the tech millionaires have driven out the Ben & Jerry types.

  200. Giuseppe says:
    @Truth

    What wicked foolishness to scrutinize the bodies of women with the idea of speculating whether they might be genetically male. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness without a surgical cure and those who have sought one will have to live with that reality. Leave them alone. Mind your own business. And preserve your own mental health by not obsessing about the true gender of those you meet.

    • Replies: @Truth
  201. Them Guys says:
    @Colin Wright

    It sounded funny to me. Basically, Jose’ tried to get Lidia interested in Hose-B…And she slapped him!

  202. Them Guys says:
    @anon

    Yes it was Detroit Blacks. I was not yet Jewised Up then, I only became really awake and wised up on Jew issues and agendas etc about 15 yrs ago. So cannot say for certain if any Jews were involved or not?……..This entire Malcolm-X, Islam combo was like a huge Fad among blacks back then.

    That school did open for a couple weeks, and I did see nothing But Male Young Black students going to and coming from the school… I guess it was like the orig mainly whitey grade school prior to closing down the first time….Grades 1st thru 6th grade. Then kids go to Jr. High for 7th to 9th grades. Then High school where most blacks get a freebee diploma they cannot even Read words of…Then many blacks get to attend a college free of costs thanks to Feminist Lib Dem Governor Granholm in Mich.

    She got tons of free cash from Tobacco suit settlements, then stole it all to divert it to Cash college grants for Black minorities. Probably a few other type minorities too. Detroit Whites were the Real minority then…But Whiteys do not qualify for ANY such minority perks programs I am aware of.

    By the way, the actual school dress code mandated for those Malcom X academy schools is….White dress shirt, black tie and black pants…The Tie being a Bow Tie like Farakans Islamic negroes wear!

    Them little negro future felons, looked like an assembly line of small sized, Louie Da Farakan’s! Bow Ties! & Malcolm X + Islam…..What can possibly go wrong.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  203. @Ron Unz

    Thanks for the reply, Mr. Unz. Yes, I’d agree that things are more peaceful than those crazy times,

    a) in those two big cities, LA and San Fran. (bay area) where most of the acute violence occurred.
    b) but more peaceful only to a certain extent. Everyday life is much more stressful. When your neighbors are of all different “tribes”, lots of the trust is gone, and it’s no idyllic life that a middle class life was close to in the 50’s through 70’s – maybe into the 80’s.

    I’m glad you did write the paragraph about immigration. As I wrote in a post called Toward Sustainable Stupidity, most problems in society, especially all the environmental ones, will be made that much worse when you add more people.

    Hey, can you beat my property tax rate, BTW, Ron? I shouldn’t brag, as if the county found out I feel this way, they’d go ahead and up it. I was lucky (OK, smart) to have the place assessed right after some previous inhabitants had trashed the place.

  204. Truth says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    My friend, the issue here is that you just don’t get it. Get out of your own feelings for a second and just answer this question:

    What if the proliferation of “feminists” upon which you are so concerned, had a deeper meaning. What if the “feminists”, who are so influential on the lives, feelings, and personalities of everyday women, were in fact, not women. Would that change things in this world, just a smidge? Would that give this “problem” just the slightest little new wrinkle?

    You see, my friend, and I tried to explain this above; the “tranny” thing is not a small problem. The “tranny” thing is the most significant issue we face in the world today, everything flows off of it. This is because, in a nutshell, the occultist who run this world (read: everyone above a certain level of money, fame or influence) are trying to take man back to what they believe is his natural state; male and female intertwined into one sex in the same body. This is a 5,000 year agenda and the main method of propagation is through television.

    But hey, who’s playing in Thursday Night Football tonight?

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  205. Truth says:
    @Giuseppe

    A wise man names Arthur Schopenhauer once came up with a brilliant quote which, I believe, encapsulates this issues perfectly. He said:

    “All truth goes through three stages; first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”

    Not only is what I wrote true, but your superiors (not mine, I don’t have any) no longer have any great interest in keeping it secret. They give you the truth, at this point in life, through jokes and riddles, but in a few years it will be sheer transparency:

    So back to Schopenhauer for a second, Old Sport; in 5 years when someone tells you “Hey Juice, did you know that Megan Kelly was born a man?!?”

    You will look at him with a certain sang froid in your eyes and respond “well of course, everyone knows that…”

    The way I see it, you may as well just get a head-start on the other mouth-breathers now…

  206. Laughing . . . this has been an interesting journey. From “blackface” to hidden transexual in plain sight.

    There is only one solution whether the woman has a face of white, brown, yellow, red or black. Get the medical records to ensure she had a womb and ovaries at birth.

    One of my favorite hollywood movie lines,

    “I am free, white and over 21, I can . . . ”

    used up til the 1940’s, as a running commentary in movies. Which might introduce why the issue of black facing eventually went out of fashion. The majority of whites actually thought the caricatures of “black face” was representative of black people. it simply was a false narrative to the whole not even a inch close to the majority.

    But this is the first time, the woman really man discussion has not included Miss Ann Coulter — she must be relieved.

    By the way Mrs. Megyn Hunt (Megyn Kelly) is not a conservative nor does she come close to the traditional understanding of republican orthodoxy). obviously nothing puritanical about her.

  207. @Truth

    male and female intertwined into one sex in the same body

    There is already a way to do this.

    For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’

    Word on the street is it can be much more pleasant than any surgical/hormonal tampering.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  208. @Ron Unz

    But after that, there were the Watts Riots, the huge wave of Zebra killings in SF and elsewhere, the Mansons, extremely high urban crime rates, the LA Riots, and all the bitter racial turmoil of the 1990s.

    With the notable exception of the Mansons, all those examples predominately involve Blacks. I think your contention has always been that Whites, Hispanics, and Asians get along fairly well. The NonBlack-Black racial divide is the main ethnic fault line in today’s America.

    You also seem to believe that in addition to Blacks, certain groups (Jews, Indian Subcontinentals, and Muslims) don’t blend well into mainstream society and cause a high degree of agitation. This is due to these groups possessing clannish and ethnocentric cultural characteristics, as well as being verbally/socially aggressive. While some of these groups (particularly Jews) are low-crime and capable of succeeding economically, they’re very adept at utilizing clan strategems to secure lucrative economic and social niches.

    At least that’s my understanding of your views. I could be wrong.

    But just think of what CA was like in 1968 or 1994. Wouldn’t you agree things are much more peaceful these days?

    Yes. However, outside the large cities, much of suburban California (especially Orange County, San Diego County, and Santa Barbara County) was very idyllic up through the late 80s, maybe early 90s. Back 25 years ago, if you wanted to live the lifestyle described in a Beach Boys video, you could do that in much of suburban SoCal, especially in the coastal areas.

    You really can’t do that anymore. The place is far too competitive, expensive, and crowded. Mostly due to immigrants.

    There’s also no longer any type of common California “surfer dude” culture, again mostly due to immigrants. A place like Orange County, which was the epicenter of “surfer dude” culture, is culturally very distictive from how it used to be, mostly due to the presence of large numbers of Hispanics and Asians.

    I think Steve Sailer has written about how he’s nostalgic for the 1950s-1980s California culture described in the Beach Boys songs. He believes this California has been transformed dramatically by foreign immigrants with foreign cultures.

    Not all the changes are uniformly negative. For example, real estate is much more expensive, but that’s allowed many White Californians to make huge profits on their old homes and retire in aflluence. Hispanics might’ve lowered blue-collar wages, but that’s allowed many SoCal real estate developers to become wealthy and build huge homes in Newport Beach. Asians may have “ruined” California’s party schools (like USC and UCSB), but that’s made these places much more academically credible and FAR less out of control.

    I think one reason White Californians allowed these changes is because while many lost, many gained too. Those who gained were disproportionately the sort who vote, donate to politicians, and participate in political debates. Those who lost were the type who never really were that politically engaged to begin with, which is why nobody cared much about them.

    If you go to a Republican party fundraise in Laguna Beach, it’ll be full of real estate developers and construction contractors. There likely won’t be any blue collar Okie tradesmen. So perhaps not surprisingly, when immigration comes up in places like this, Hispanic migrants get praised for their strong work ethic and economic importance. The politicians get pressured to increase migration and bring in even more foreign workers.

    I think the main point to take aways is this. Asians and Hispanics might be okay enough citizens, but they’ve economically and culturally changed Steve Sailer’s California in ways that he finds uncongenial. He no longer recognizes his homeland.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Jeff Stryker
  209. @silviosilver

    This is the reason my friends are marrying Asian ladies. In the US, although women are slutty, yet whine when they are touched, are you kidding me? I once read here in UNZ, that if you are liked by those women, then is flirting, if they don’t like you, its harassment or worst. So, American males, stop making American women slots, and whores. I know, they way the carry themselves its hard to not consider them so. What will take for American women to understand that they are the culprits of their own demise as potential brides? Why are males getting old, and women getting old without a proper mate? something to ponder…

    • Replies: @anon
  210. @AKAHorace

    I’ll add that to my mental stack of quotes!

  211. Ron Unz says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I’d agree with quite a lot of this analysis.

    But I really do think that the overwhelming majority of immigrants, certainly including Hispanics and Asians, are quite assimilative, and their CA-born children usually grow up just like any other Californian.

    For example, when I drive I usually listen to a local soft-rock radio station, mostly playing popular songs from the 1960s-1990s, and of the half-dozen announcers, two of the most prominent are Hispanic. Except for their names, I doubt anyone would aware of that, certainly not from their accents, their song discussions, or the subjects of their chatter. They describe a Beach Boys song they’re about to play just the same way anyone else of their generation probably would.

    I’d argue that the main reason the old California suburban lifestyle has been lost is due to the doubling of the population, and also the sharp decline in the traditional middle-class standard of living, which is closely connected. And obviously, heavy immigration has been a large factor in these things. But if the immigrants had all been from Europe or even whites from other states, I really think pretty much the same things would have happened.

    Here’s something to consider. From what I remember, CA whites voted for Trump at a rate something like 20-25 points lower than whites in the rest of the country, presumably because the things he was complaining about didn’t really make any sense to them. If whites nationwide had voted the same way, Trump would have lost all 50 states in huge landslides, and suffered by far the most crushing defeat in all American history, with the MSM laughing and saying “We told you so!”

    Obviously, things aren’t perfect in CA, but unlike many other parts of the country, things are actually reasonably good, and the voters aren’t in an angry or radical mood. That situation was very, very different back in 1968 or 1994 or just after the Housing Meltdown.

  212. @Ron Unz

    Instead of comparing the progress from the 70’s through today, another perspective would be to look at what things could have been had California stayed majority White (or White/Asian). The White population of CA has remained pretty stable while the Mexican population has increased exponentially to become slightly larger.

    Whites are far more productive than Mexicans and are less reliant on government assistance. There’s also the abysmal academic performance of Mexicans. So even if we accept your argument that (correcting for age and sex) Mexicans are not more violent than Whites, Mexicans are still a net negative by every other measure: government deficits; academic performance; economic productivity etc.

    Yes, in spite of Mexicans some things have gotten a little better in California. But what would the state be without them? What would a White/Asian (“Ice People”) California look like? A lot better, I imagine.

    There’s also the matter of housing. You restrict the construction of new housing and let in 10-13 million Mexicans? Basic economics tell you that’s a bad idea.

    On a personal note, I live in a Chinese neighborhood in San Francisco proper and work downtown. My stop here is just temporary, and I’ll be gone in a year or two. That said, living here is like living in a foreign country. I never thought I’d be homesick for America while living in a large American city. Imagine if California was still American!

  213. “But how did we get here? What or who has been driving this dreadful development?”

    — I blame it on the Jews.

  214. @JohnnyWalker123

    “Verbally/socially aggressive”

    Tell a Brahmin to f*ck off and he will. Indians are the veritable definition of blow-hard but will almost never attack a white physically. They are devious and cunning, but governed by the Hindu belief system.

    I’m not afraid of Indian teenagers in a group in California. When they or Jews form gangs capable of harming people physically, I’ll be surprised.

    “Asians have ruined party schools”

    Back East in college, Beserkly and UCLA had horrendous reputations for hard drug use and general nuttiness in the 90’s. Does anyone remember Andrew walking around with no clothes on?

    “Use clan strategies to secure economic niches”

    Undoubtedly. But they are not physically dangerous, barring the odd film producer who goes to far with his casting couch bit. And I am not afraid of Harvey Weinstein on the street.

    This is all null and void anyhow because the Hispanics arrived in such vast numbers.

  215. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @in the middle

    So, American males, stop making American women slots, and whores.

    What will take for American women to understand that they are the culprits of their own demise as potential brides?

    so who’s fault is it, the men or the women?

  216. the JQ says:
    @Rational

    What Atheistic religion/tribe/kulture commands the Trial Lawyer’s Association? Expelled 109 times, and #110 is looming…

  217. Corvinus says:
    @RadicalCenter

    “We all had raging hormones at that age. Funny how most of us didn’t have any problem restraining ourselves, refraining from groping the girls EVER, refraining from hitting on the girls in the classroom, and doing our damn work.”

    So how do explain Donald Trump’s behavior? Because using your own logic, he would fit the profile of perpetual adolescent schoolboy.

    Although, what is wrong with today’s men being all “handsy”, since women truly deep down love it when they are being manhandled, or using manospherist tactics to “shag” the ladies, then not call them?

    • Replies: @anon
  218. anon[301] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    So how do explain Donald Trump’s behavior? Because using your own logic, he would fit the profile of perpetual adolescent schoolboy.

    you’re right

    he’s almost as bad as bill clinton

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  219. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    “you’re right”

    Of course I’m right on this particular matter.

    “he’s almost as bad as bill clinton”

    No, BOTH are bad. They are equal in their depravity. You can add Bill Cosby, Bill O’Reilly, Roger Ailes, and Harvey Weinstein to the list as well.

    • Replies: @anon
  220. anon[313] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    No, BOTH are bad. They are equal in their depravity.

    sure, if it makes you feel better

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  221. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    “sure, if it makes you feel better”

    It is not about “feeling better”, it is about truth telling. The men I listed ALL were immoral and depraved. Why you seemingly cannot admit to that simple fact says much about your own character, or lack thereof.

    • Replies: @anon
  222. @Them Guys

    I wish Malcolm X were alive today. I believe he would have some very, very interesting things to say, to the black community in particular, that are long overdue.

    Though I don’t agree with everything he said or believed, he was a very articulate speaker and his thoughts on a number of issues reveals an insightful and thoughtful man who wasn’t afraid to speak truth to power.

  223. anon[641] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    The men I listed ALL were immoral and depraved. Why you seemingly cannot admit to that simple fact says much about your own character, or lack thereof.

    to varying degrees

    No, BOTH are bad. They are equal in their depravity.

    the fact that you need to believe this says much about your dishonesty

  224. Corvinus says:

    “to varying degrees”

    That would be Fake News. Why are you supporting men who are sexual predators? There is only one degree here–they are ALL depraved and deviant.

    “the fact that you need to believe this says much about your dishonesty”

    Classic projection on your part.

    • Replies: @anon
  225. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    That would be Fake News. Why are you supporting men who are sexual predators?

    im not, you are. you seem to need to believe that Trump is as horrible as Clinton, probably because you are or were a Clinton supporter

    There is only one degree here–they are ALL depraved and deviant.

    no, that’s your childish belief. Some are worse than others.

    you can stamp your foot if you like but it won’t change things

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @Corvinus
  226. @Rosamond Vincy

    Heh! “Word on the street” or “word in the sheets”?

    Too bad Mr. Truth has got to learn about the birds and the bees from an “Alternative Media Selection” website. Better late than never, eh, Truth. j/k ;-}

  227. @anon

    Why was the Clinton era of the 1990’s so much better than today? I was 19 when the man entered the White House in 1993 and the nineties was nicer than now.

    • Replies: @anon
  228. @Ron Unz

    ‘… Meanwhile, I think property taxes are among the lowest in the country, which benefits the longtime homeowner…’

    That depends how you look at it. Aa a percentage of valuation, California property taxes might be low, but then the values are so high…

    The fact is, you pay a lot more and get a lot less. We were paying $4000 a year for our 800 square foot house in Richmond, a perennial Bay Area homicide leader with an unusable public school system.

    Now we’re in Southern Oregon, in a town of 20,000 people which had no homicides last year and in which I’d have no hesitation about sending my daughter to the public schools. Our house is 1600 square feet, and I just wrote out the check for our property tax: $1600.

    Now, of course we sold up in California for $700,000 and bought here for $187,500 — but as far as I can see, I’m paying less than half as much in property tax for about four times as much in house.

  229. @Dr. X

    The “criminal Derbyshire”? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Having dealt with arbitrageurs in Zurich, a former investment adviser from Wall Street, and more than a few yardbirds convicted of the more customary transgressions, Boris can state with affable equanimity that felonies, genuine or artificially created by Progressive Frauds, can make a man much more interesting. Derbyshire’s opinions and writings can never be accused of being uninteresting. Y/our transitive properties of equality may vary.

  230. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    “im not, you are. you seem to need to believe that Trump is as horrible as Clinton probably because you are or were a Clinton supporter”

    You feel compelled to think that Trump is less horrible than Clinton, which shows that you are supporting sexual predators, since you are a champion of Trump. You are elevating Clinton over Trump.

    “no, that’s your childish belief. Some are worse than others.”

    The reality is that sexual predators are twisted, sick individuals. They are ALL depraved and deviant. Trying to say one is “less worse” than another demonstrates your lack of character.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @anon
  231. @Corvinus

    ‘ “im not, you are. you seem to need to believe that Trump is as horrible as Clinton probably because you are or were a Clinton supporter”

    You feel compelled to think that Trump is less horrible than Clinton, which shows that you are supporting sexual predators, since you are a champion of Trump. You are elevating Clinton over Trump.

    “no, that’s your childish belief. Some are worse than others.”

    The reality is that sexual predators are twisted, sick individuals. They are ALL depraved and deviant. Trying to say one is “less worse” than another demonstrates your lack of character.’

    This is pathetic nonsense. Trump is tacky; Clinton was a rapist. How can you seriously argue they’re the same?

    I mean seriously. My daughter goes out with Trump; she comes back. ‘He kept touching me.’

    She goes out with Bill Clinton. She comes back raped.

    These are the same?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Corvinus
  232. anon[728] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    The reality is that sexual predators are twisted, sick individuals. They are ALL depraved and deviant. Trying to say one is “less worse” than another demonstrates your lack of character.

    one has raped two victims and another has raped 20 but they are both equal in your eyes, lol

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  233. anon[728] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    what is that saying “arguing with idiots” or “wrestling with pigs”?

    its a waste of time

  234. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “This is pathetic nonsense. Trump is tacky; Clinton was a rapist. How can you seriously argue they’re the same?”

    You mean Trump and Clinton have been rapists, although they have yet to be formally charged. BOTH were accused repeatedly of rape by numerous women, BOTH have reputations of being “handsy”, and BOTH have committed adultery. They are ONE and of the SAME.

    “I mean seriously. My daughter goes out with Trump; she comes back. ‘He kept touching me.’”

    And seemingly you have no problems with this scenario. She must be really proud of her father.

    • Troll: Colin Wright
  235. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    “one has raped two victims and another has raped 20 but they are both equal in your eyes, lol”

    Even if Trump raped 20 and Clinton raped 2–although they have not been formal charges, just accusations–BOTH men are equally depraved and deviant. They use their position to overpower women for their own sexual gratification, and believe they are above the law.

    Keep digging yourself that hole.

    • Replies: @anon
  236. @Boris Badenov

    Boris, I believe it’s really you! [Remember me? I’m the entity known as “Philbert Desanex (Lawson)” at Taki’s]. Here’s hoping you’ll liven up the party here at Unz. It could use some. Livening-up, that is. The party. You know what I’m tong ’bout!

  237. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    it takes a long time to destroy a country

    clinton was just one stop along the way

  238. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Keep diggin yourself that hole

    its only in your mind

  239. Sam Stone says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks for that Achmed. Been a John Prine fan since 71. Everyone should blow up their TV and que up some Prime Prine. Trust me on this. You’ll be much happier.

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