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I’ve recently been cheering the fact that our country has awoken from its immigration slumbers and is now at last discussing the issue publicly in a reasoned, well-informed, grown-up way. Not ex-President George W. Bush, though. He’s still mumbling out the threadbare slogans of fifteen years ago—slogans even the cheap-labor shills are now embarrassed to be heard repeating: “jobs that Americans won’t do,” “putting food on the table for their families,” “our broken immigration system” …

All that was missing from his recent $peech to a think-tank conference in the United Arab Emirates was a quote from Emma Lazarus.

W. scolded President Trump for rescinding DACA. Concerning the beneficiaries of that unconstitutional order, W proclaimed: “America’s their home.”

It may be their home, W, but it’s not their country. A country’s only your country if you’re a lawful citizen.

Guess what else W said?

There are people willing to do jobs that Americans won’t do. Americans don’t want to pick cotton at 105 degrees but there are people who want to put food on their family’s tables and are willing to do that. We ought to say thank you and welcome them.

[ George W. Bush says Russia meddled in 2016 US election, by Jon Gambrell, AP, February 8, 2018]

Leaving aside the issue that picking cotton is almost entirely automated nowadays: Was that a trip down Memory Lane, or what?

I cringe to think I once voted for this moron.

Jason Riley is the author of a 2008 book titled Let Them In: The Case for Open Borders. So again, we know pretty much where we are here.

Except that we don’t, quite. Riley seems to have backslid somewhat from open-borders purism.

Most of the article is just polystyrene filling for the Journal’s cheap-labor subscribers. It’s decorated by a big picture of the Statue of Liberty, though Riley doesn’t tell us what the Statue, a hundredth birthday present to our republic from France, has to do with immigration. Sample of the polystyrene text:

There is no typical immigrant. They aren’t all gang members, and they aren’t all microbiologists.

You don’t say! Gosh, Jason, that would never have occurred to me if I hadn’t read it in the Wall Street Journal!

But in among all the filler, you suddenly find yourself reading this:

Yes, humanitarianism ought to inform this debate, but ultimately U.S. immigration policy should prioritize the needs of the people already here, not the people trying to come.

He means you.That’s way off the reservation for commentary in the broadsheet open-borders press. The people already here? What, Jason, you mean those worthless lazy hillbillies David Brooks [Email him] thinks are so irredeemably inferior to vibrant, energetic, entrepreneurial immigrants? You mean those ignorant, stupid, irreligious deplorables Bret Stephens [Email him]wants to replace with smart, fecund immigrants? Those people?

Are you serious?

“U.S. immigration policy should prioritize the needs of the people already here, not the people trying to come.” They printed that in the Wall Street Journal?

It was a bit like reading your way through a Papal encyclical and suddenly coming across a sentence saying there isn’t really a God or a Heaven and after you die it just gets real quiet.

Either elite opinion is waking up to something—or else Jason Riley will be looking for a new job about now. They’re hiring at Home Depot, Jason.

The response to that is so obvious, I’ll leave you to supply it yourselves

Congress will be debating immigration next week [After Brief Shutdown, Budget Passes, Immigration Fight Looms, by Caitlin Huey-Burns & James Arkin, RealClearPolitics, February 9, 2018].

If I was right in my speculations last week that President Trump’s strategy is to position himself as the party of Americans, with the Democrats as the party of foreigners, that strategy is working better than I could have imagined.

Nancy Pelosi just delivered an eight-hour speech urging white people like herself to commit mass suicide so that vibrant brown people could take their rightful place as rulers of America.

I think that’s what her speech was about, anyway, though I confess I didn’t listen attentively to all eight hours. Wednesday’s the day I express my dog’s anal glands, and some things just have to be attended to.

The parts I did watch were so strange, I was expecting a couple of orderlies in lab coats to show up and escort the lady to a van outside.

Neil Munro over at Breitbart provided toe-curling extracts from Nancy’s speech. Samples — you’d better have the barf bag handy:

We recognize that they are a blessing to America … the dreamers are all over our country, Mr. Speaker, they are a blessing so across the board … These are the best of the best. They are so fabulous … Each of them with their individual contribution to the greatness of America. So exciting, so proud of them … Recognize, recognize again the hard work ethic, the commitment to education, to community service, to faith, to family, to the United States of America. It’s a beautiful thing … Am I not lucky to be able to become so familiar with so many of these beautiful dreamers? We want to send these people back? This talent, this rich talent, this achievement, this determination, this faith in the future, this patriotism for America? I don’t think so … Let us acknowledge the dreamers and their optimism, their inspiration to make America more American

[Pelosi is entranced by 3 million ‘Dreamer’ illegals, insults Americans’ children, by Neil Munro, Breitbart, February 7, 2018].

Munro, who has a keen ear, did spot in that eight-hour gush of immigration romanticism, one reference to us American citizens, who live here legally:

Many of the great academic minds in our country came from another country. But then — at the same time America produced our own and that’s a pretty exciting combination.

So Pelosi thinks we can bring forth people who are not totally worthless—but they only lose their worthlessness when in combination with those wonderful, beautiful, talented illegal aliens who have blessed us with their presence.

The speaker here is the leader of her party in the U.S. House of Representatives — a major party, that had a president in power until just over a year ago.

Chuck Schumer, the lady’s Senate counterpart, is an intelligent man. He has to be racking his brains right now to think of some way he can get this Mrs. Rochester back into the attic … and lose the key.

ORDER IT NOW

One proposal that may be voted on was introduced Monday by Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, NumbersUSA grade on recent legislation C-minus, career grade D, and Christopher Coons, Democrat of Delaware, F-minus on recent legislation, career grade F. [McCain, Coons to introduce new immigration bill that omits wall funding: report, By Julia Manchester, The Hill, February 4, 2018]

Yep, it’s the old 1986 bait-and-switch: Amnesty for millions of foreign scofflaws in return for … what? [Crickets.]

That’s pretty much it. There is of course language in the proposal to make it sound like we might get something in return for all that amnesty; but the language is so vaporously imprecise you could drive a coach and four through it without slowing down.

Oh, and the McCain-Coons proposal will “address the root causes of illegal immigration.” Say what? What are the root causes of illegal immigration — other than lax border security, which, as noted, the proposal will do something or other about sometime or other, honestly, no kidding, promise promise promise!

The root causes of illegal immigration are the lack of a proper visa entry-exit tracking system, and the lack of universal E-Verify. Are McCain and Coons going to fix those things? Hel-lo?

Oh, they mean the root root causes — crappy life prospects in the outhouse countries that most of the illegals come from. What control does the U.S. government have over that?

But the cause of those crappy life prospects — the root root root cause of illegal immigration — is the low level of human capital in those countries.

Concerning which, to the best of my understanding, not only can Uncle Sam do nothing—nobody can do anything.

2010-12-24dl[1] John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books.He has had two books published by VDARE.com com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Who could have predicted that Derbyshire would degenerate to Boomerposting 4D chess memes?

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    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    first this boomer bashing yeah maybe we are the 60 hippies and 70 nihilists generation but the left percentage then through now is small compared to the percentage of your pajama boy generations. And its worth pointing out from the perspective of the time it seemed reasonable to think niggers might be human and women might be trustworthy or jews might simply be skittish after the war, but generations born since those experiments have no excuse.

    Yeah derb might be optimistic its hard to not hope occasionally, if trumps cucked then war is the only choice left, so are you pajama boys ready to go to civil war, because frankly i dont think a one of you has even been in a fist fight let alone one with a street nigger or a cop.
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  2. Anon7 says:

    I think President Trump can win big in the DACA debate. We’ve spent $1 trillion giving the DACA “kids” the best support and education we can – now they’re our gift to the world! Shouldn’t we return them to their native lands in triumph? Three and a half million ambassadors spreading out across the world! It sends shivers down my spine. It’s better than the Peace Corps! We could even offer them a stipend, just like the Corps.

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    This! The framing of the deportation debate should be exactly that. And not just apply to DACA but all illegals. Imagine the illegals who have been here 20 years, they have so much more to offer their home countries. How can the leftists counter the argument that sending these superior illegals back will only help their shithole countries? They'll be changemakers a la David Brooks. Excelsior!
    , @liz
    An awesome idea!
    Imagine what Turkey could have been like if the Germans actually treated them like guest workers, and sent them back with all their skills and new outlook on life after 20 years with a small pension.
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  3. Her is what is really strange with democrats:

    All DACA should stay because it would be extreme cruelty to deport them. They do not know other country then US.

    But then it is not cruelty to let emigrants into US when these people do know any other country than their native country.

    The attitude of Democrats has reached total absurdity.

    I do think that this is hilarious. He He He

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    But then it is not cruelty to let emigrants into US when these people do know any other country than their native country.
     
    Exactly, we should not be taking pe0ple from foreign countries where they grew up and bringing them to the US against their will where they will be exposed to US television, corporations that try to trick them out of every last penny, and so on.

    The problem with the DACA kids and young adults is that it is fine to return a young doctor or dentist back to their country of birth where they can practice their art and apply for a US visa if they really want to come back.

    It is rather harder to deal with those who may be mentally or physically handicaped, mentally ill, and so on, or just don't have any place to go back in the birth country, and you don't want to create a large scale humanitarian crisis with the US paying to send people to concentration camps in their birth countries.

    And then you have the whole issues of them maybe having siblings who are US citizens, or step parents who are US citizens, and of breaking up families. I guess that Trump and his folks have figured all this out and how it can be done, but you never see detailed planning reported in the media.
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  4. MBmb says:

    Not true. They’re all microbiologist-gang members.

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  5. Pelosi is not White, she is marrano.

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  6. Realist says:

    I’d be very leery about giving Trump credit for intelligence.

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    Especially if he gets it from the FBI, CIA, NSA, MOSSAD, MI6 Et Al
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  7. I wonder if Trump performed this miracle, as the miracle is the same in W European countries.
    More and more people see that immigrants are treated better than poor citizens.
    And thus more and more W European countries are split politically, those on the ‘left’, whatever that may be in these days where socialist parties have become neoliberal, blaming the right, those that defend the right of those who foot the bill, as being racist, neofacist.

    Maybe the tide is turning, TV reports about those who got asylum, but did not do any work for years.
    Most of them healthy young men around twenty.

    Alas after years, they still hardly speak our language, and I get the impression that they are quite happy with living as it is, the Dutch taxpayer footing the bill.
    Long ago, in a TV report from Africa, someone living there said ‘the whites cannot sit around and do nothing’.

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  8. I just looked up the word ‘complexion’ in the dictionary. One of the definitions is, of course, “the color, texture, and general appearance of the skin, esp. of the face”. But it originally meant “the combination of the qualities of cold, heat, dryness, and moisture, or of the four humors, in certain proportions believed to determine the temperament and constitution of the body”. So, basically, one’s character, one’s essential nature. No doubt, this was what Ben Franklin meant. If i could deduce this then surely Michael Shermer could have, unless he just couldn’t pass up on a sneering cheap joke.

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  9. “I cringe to think I once voted for this moron.”

    We weren’t exactly blessed with many, if any, palatable alternatives.

    “All that was missing from his recent $peech to a think-tank conference in the United Arab Emirates …..”

    Has he blown through all his cash already?

    “It’s decorated by a big picture of the Statue of Liberty, though Riley doesn’t tell us what the Statue, a hundredth birthday present to our republic from France, has to do with immigration.”

    Those sneeky Frogs must have known they could destroy us by giving us a Statue of Immigration … look what immigration has done for them, don’t cha know.

    “So exciting, so proud of them … Recognize, recognize again the hard work ethic, the commitment to education, to community service, to faith, to family, to the United States of America.”

    The few, the proud, the Dream Corps. They’re probably having posters and billboards printed to hang all over Latin America as we type.

    “One proposal that may be voted on was introduced Monday by Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona …

    OMG, will that SRVN (Cộng hòa xã hội chủ nghĩa Việt Nam) Doomsday Weapon do us a favour and finally shuffle off his mortal coil?

    “Concerning which, to the best of my understanding, not only can Uncle Sam do nothing—nobody can do anything.”

    Au contraire, mon frère. Uncle Sam can do everything … that’s why he is everywhere.

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  10. Tom Welsh says:

    “I cringe to think I once voted for this moron”.

    You shouldn’t. The way the US electoral system has been set up for the past couple of centuries, you can’t help voting for some moron – if you vote.

    In 2016 a large number (I think 40% or so) of entitled citizens refrained from voting at all. That is really the only constructive course of action left to an intelligent and ethically-minded citizen. When a few decline to vote, it makes little difference. Once more than half do so, the whole claim that the USA is a democracy will start to look increasingly untenable. “And here is our glorious new President, elected by 55% of the 39% who chose to vote”! (That is, about 22% of the entitled voters).

    “Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil”.

    - Jerry Garcia

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    People will shame you for it, but just vote third party and be done. I just tell people I voted for a woman in the last election.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    As others have written below, why not a 3rd-party? Vote anyone but a flat-out Commie. I hadn't voted for R's or D's since voting for Ronnie, until Trump in 2016. I still don't have that much trust in his ability or even willingness to keep any promises, but in 2016:

    1) The Hildabeast could not be put in any position of power, just plain NO.
    2) The L-guy, Mr. Johnson, is a real whack-job, not like the L's of old, your Dr. Paul's, etc.
    3) YOU! DO! NOT! ELECT! THE! HILDABEAST!

    I am so glad you brought up my man, Gerry, with that quote. Maybe you could reply to me regarding what context he said that in - i.e. was he saying 3rd-party was the way to vote, or was he just also against voting in that kind of election, period?

    "Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luAqu8VX5wo

    (If you only have time for the Jerry lead, it's right at 3:00 to 5:00.)
    , @Eileen Kuch
    You just said one thing the US actually is not, Tom, that the US is a democracy. The US isn't a democracy; it never was a democracy; the Founding Fathers established the US as a Constitutional Republic, and this country is still a Constitutional Republic.
    In 2016, as you rightly said, a large number (around 40% or so) of entitled citizens didn't vote at all. That's really the only constructive action left to an intelligent and ethically-minded citizen. When a few decline to vote, it makes little difference. Once more than half do so, the whole claim that the US is a democracy will start to look increasingly untenable. "And here's our glorious new President, elected by 55% of the 39% who chose to vote"! (That is. about 22% of the entitled voters).
    "Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil". ~ Jerry Garcia
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  11. iffen says:

    I wonder when was the last time a Democrat spoke for 8 hours defending some of the people that are already citizens and living here?

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  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Missing from articles and threads like this is any discussion of citizenship which is one of the few assets msny Americans have. Why devalue it by giving out more fecklessly? What’s wrong with witholding all or some of its benefits until important conditions have neen met. What about 15 years of taxpaying for starters?

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    Yes, in Switzerland, it takes at least 12 years and they have a lot more flexibility to refuse citizenship. Here's a few cases where the US could learn from.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/switzerland-citizenship-muslim-girls-refuse-swim-boys-islam-immigration-europe-a7111601.html
    , @Anonymous
    Lol, another slave who doesn't understand taxes. Every non-citizen gives up at least 10%. The slaves seem to be confused as to why some of their wealthiest masters renounce their US citizenship.

    "Illegals" live in states. Let the states deal with them. Most states willingly accept them because they work hard pay taxes and get things done. Only the least intelligent slaves want more laws, more restrictions, walls, more H1-Bs and other Big Government intrusions.

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  13. @Thulean Friend
    Who could have predicted that Derbyshire would degenerate to Boomerposting 4D chess memes?

    first this boomer bashing yeah maybe we are the 60 hippies and 70 nihilists generation but the left percentage then through now is small compared to the percentage of your pajama boy generations. And its worth pointing out from the perspective of the time it seemed reasonable to think niggers might be human and women might be trustworthy or jews might simply be skittish after the war, but generations born since those experiments have no excuse.

    Yeah derb might be optimistic its hard to not hope occasionally, if trumps cucked then war is the only choice left, so are you pajama boys ready to go to civil war, because frankly i dont think a one of you has even been in a fist fight let alone one with a street nigger or a cop.

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    so are you pajama boys ready to go to civil war, because frankly i dont think a one of you has even been in a fist fight let alone one with a street nigger or a cop.
     
    OK Sheldon, you've had your fun, now please get off the internet and buckle down. Your boss wants those requisitions balanced by Monday COB.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    "... don't think a one of you has even been in a fist fight let alone with a street nigger or a cop. ..."

    To engage in a fight with a cop you must either be a drunk dumbass or a street Black.
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  14. MarkinLA says:

    Trump has said he will sign what Congress decides and everybody in the leadership is conniving to screw Americans first. Trump has already stopped talking about E-verify, the thing the Democrats and cheap labor Republicans hate the most since without a job for the first few years an illegal is here, he can’t stay successfully.

    AS always no deal will be better than what Congress comes up with and Trump just wants a deal so he can tweet about it.

    What about 15 years of taxpaying for starters?

    Anonymous, don’t you know, the taxes (and “back taxes”) in those bills will be nothing but Earned Income and Child Care Tax Credits. You will pay them to become citizens. This crap is in every comprehensive immigration bill ever put forward.

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  15. Randal says:

    But the cause of those crappy life prospects — the root root root cause of illegal immigration — is the low level of human capital in those countries.

    Concerning which, to the best of my understanding, not only can Uncle Sam do nothing—nobody can do anything.

    But of course the US (and the UK and European nations) most certainly can help outhouse countries to improve their problems with low levels of human capital, namely by stopping stealing away some of their best and brightest by offering them opportunities to immigrate to a richer country, and forcing them to stay at home and work to improve their own, until perhaps one day it might be better than an outhouse.

    When Trump says of these countries that “they aren’t sending their best”, that’s misleading. In reality they are sending many of their best, along with plenty of their worst. But that doesn’t mean the children and wider families of those “best” will also be among the best, thanks to regression to the mean, or have any loyalty to their host country, thanks to the commonplace mixture of surly entitlement, external loyalties and resentment amongst second and third generation immigrants.

    Dreamers Threaten To Leave U.S. If DACA Deal Doesn’t Allow Them To Stay

    Looks like Trump is all over this one already, anyway, putting in place the policies needed to help those outhouse countries to improve their own low levels of human capital.

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    I have quite a bit of sympathy for Mr Derb' here. Immigration is a huge problem in the US & the West generally.
    However, we DO have to look at root causes.
    Many immigrants (not all by any means) do not want to leave their homes. Yet they do: often because the West finds it easier to just " let em in", rather than deal with the complex of push/ pull factors.
    Therefore, the West needs to act to deal with those factors. (Its like charity: much easier, CHEAPER to dole out a bit of $$ here or there, than sort out the causes of poverty)
    So there are literally 100's of things the West can do. A small sample:
    Stop creating vicious imperially inspired wars. Would millions of Syrians have lobbed into Europe absent the war ? (And Turkey's blackmail & -- put mildly -- its bad faith)
    Stop giving loans (by the economic hitmen) to corrupt regimes which are promptly stolen by local elites. Leaving the "people" to pay loans back via higher taxes & lower services
    Stop pinching whatever best & brightest that some of these " shitholes" produce, because OUR elites wont train locals or want foreigners because they are so easy to rort.
    I could go on--& on.... The point ? WE can do things to stop immigration. Sadly, none of it is easy.
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  16. wrd9 says:
    @Anon7
    I think President Trump can win big in the DACA debate. We’ve spent $1 trillion giving the DACA “kids” the best support and education we can - now they’re our gift to the world! Shouldn’t we return them to their native lands in triumph? Three and a half million ambassadors spreading out across the world! It sends shivers down my spine. It’s better than the Peace Corps! We could even offer them a stipend, just like the Corps.

    This! The framing of the deportation debate should be exactly that. And not just apply to DACA but all illegals. Imagine the illegals who have been here 20 years, they have so much more to offer their home countries. How can the leftists counter the argument that sending these superior illegals back will only help their shithole countries? They’ll be changemakers a la David Brooks. Excelsior!

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    And don’t we owe it to the world to send our best? Who better to spread the light of Liberty? We can’t keep it to ourselves.

    Everywhere there is a huddled mass of wretched refuse, to that teeming shore will we send changemakers, the DREAMers who mean more to us than our own citizens.

    “Send the DREAMers!” This should be our rallying cry.

    Huzzah!

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  17. The demonrat party has been taken over by the Zionist Bolshevik wing of the communist party and this is in line with the ultimate goal of the Zionist NWO, which in fact is far along in its drive for a one world government.

    If anyone doubts that the Zionist aka communists have taken over in America just read the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION, this is not the land of the free, it is the land of the Zionist American plantation and we goyim are but slaves on this plantation.

    Trump and Helliary are both Zionist puppets and both are compromised to the Zionist NWO goal of forcing America to commit national suicide via unlimited illegal immigration, America has been betrayed.

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  18. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Tom Welsh
    "I cringe to think I once voted for this moron".

    You shouldn't. The way the US electoral system has been set up for the past couple of centuries, you can't help voting for some moron - if you vote.

    In 2016 a large number (I think 40% or so) of entitled citizens refrained from voting at all. That is really the only constructive course of action left to an intelligent and ethically-minded citizen. When a few decline to vote, it makes little difference. Once more than half do so, the whole claim that the USA is a democracy will start to look increasingly untenable. "And here is our glorious new President, elected by 55% of the 39% who chose to vote"! (That is, about 22% of the entitled voters).

    "Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil".

    - Jerry Garcia

    People will shame you for it, but just vote third party and be done. I just tell people I voted for a woman in the last election.

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  19. wrd9 says:
    @Anonymous
    Missing from articles and threads like this is any discussion of citizenship which is one of the few assets msny Americans have. Why devalue it by giving out more fecklessly? What's wrong with witholding all or some of its benefits until important conditions have neen met. What about 15 years of taxpaying for starters?

    Yes, in Switzerland, it takes at least 12 years and they have a lot more flexibility to refuse citizenship. Here’s a few cases where the US could learn from.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/switzerland-citizenship-muslim-girls-refuse-swim-boys-islam-immigration-europe-a7111601.html

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  20. Seneca44 says:

    The poor human capital in the shithole countries is exacerbated by the ease of which the more motivated ones can come to the US. We would actually be doing them a favor if we actually enforced existing immigration laws so that they could improve their home countries. Similarly, the Europeans should make it absolutely impossible to stay in Europe after arriving in a makeshift boat across the Mediterranean. There would be zero drownings if everyone knew that they weren’t going to be admitted even if they made it.

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    I'm surprised this opinion isn't heard more often. Every single one of the constantly stated immigration gains comes with an automatic loss somewhere else.

    Every justification for illegal immigration is tacit approval for the suffering, exploitation and death that they experience as a direct consequence of increased support and lax enforcement here. We're basically advertising prizes for the survivors of a death march and calling it a "humanitarian" approach.

    Do we get "the best" people? If that's true, then we're robbing the rest of the world of its human capital to improve the conditions that they're fleeing. If it's not true, then we're making it progressively more difficult to improve ANY lives with every new division of immigration resources (perhaps the only point of agreement is that immigration services are already swamped).

    There's simply no reason to consider the liberal approach as any kind of moral and ethical high ground. They are the crazy cat ladies of immigration - the urge to care without rational understanding of your limits, inevitably resulting in more neglect and abuse. Every mature human being knows that learning to say "no" is kinder in the long run than always saying "yes."

    And that's assuming that there is kind intent to begin with, rather than simple political and economic gain lurking cynically behind the humanitarian rhetoric...
    , @Bill Jones
    The Beatles, of course famously moved, En Mass to the US and recorded a song to celebrate because in Harold Wilson's England their top tax rate was 95%.

    Not a problem, one thinks in Somalia.
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    To Mr. Derbyshire,
    Very good article. Its all about introducing a system that limits immigration to the amount and type of immigration that is optimally beneficial for the United States. It currently reeks of a system designed to be beneficial to illegal cheap labor businesses, who are inherently not competitive, and maximally rewards the not so business astute, pyschopaths that own and control these businesses.

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  22. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Trump belongs to the Ruling Class. If he didn’t, the rulers never would have selected him as president.

    Conservative slaves can’t see how e-verify is another set of chains and shackles the Government uses to protect them from freedom.

    The ruling class selects and means tests its slaves carefully and will harvest them as they please. For the domestic slaves, only the best actor is appointed to the role of President. The confused children simultaneously condemn and adore the Golden Calf as they go about their daily slave chores.

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    "If he didn’t, the rulers never would have selected him as president."
     
    Maybe they figured he would be the perfect fall-guy for the coming collapse they will use to flush the last of our wealth out of our pockets and into theirs.
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  23. SteveK9 says:

    A reasonable goal I believe is 1) legal and controlled immigration, 2) a goal of assimilation into American society/culture, and 3) levels of immigration consistent with 2).

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    America needs very few immigeants, legal or illegal. What America needs is mass deportations of post 1965 immigrants, as the whole process was dishonest and undemocratic from the start.

    America also needs to rid itself of Affirmative Action and to fix the schools and colleges, in order to make the best of native talent, which it's always had in abundance. Encouraging and supporting the worst among us to pop out children that they don't need, can't afford, refuse to take responsibility for, and often don't want for anything other than another check, should also be stopped.
    , @Eric Novak
    The only reasonable immigration program after nearly three decades of awarding 1.5 million visas annually to foreign affirmative action beneficiaries producing generations of descendants dependent on government redistribution is no immigration program. We not only need zero immigrants, we need a program of reverse immigration.
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  24. Anon7 says:
    @wrd9
    This! The framing of the deportation debate should be exactly that. And not just apply to DACA but all illegals. Imagine the illegals who have been here 20 years, they have so much more to offer their home countries. How can the leftists counter the argument that sending these superior illegals back will only help their shithole countries? They'll be changemakers a la David Brooks. Excelsior!

    And don’t we owe it to the world to send our best? Who better to spread the light of Liberty? We can’t keep it to ourselves.

    Everywhere there is a huddled mass of wretched refuse, to that teeming shore will we send changemakers, the DREAMers who mean more to us than our own citizens.

    “Send the DREAMers!” This should be our rallying cry.

    Huzzah!

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  25. Dreamers Threaten To Leave U.S. If DACA Deal Doesn’t Allow Them To Stay

    “In other news, a condemned man has threatened to commit suicide if his death penalty is not commuted.”

    What are the root causes of illegal immigration — other than lax border security …

    I can think of one: NAFTA. What that damned treaty did to American industry, it also did to Mexican agriculture. Allowing Monsanto into the Mexican market completely destroyed the country’s poor farmers economically, forcing large numbers of them to head pa’ norte to look for work.

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    Spot on with that reference to Mexico's peasant farmers and NAFTA. And the reference to Monsanto trouble making.
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  27. @SteveK9
    A reasonable goal I believe is 1) legal and controlled immigration, 2) a goal of assimilation into American society/culture, and 3) levels of immigration consistent with 2).

    America needs very few immigeants, legal or illegal. What America needs is mass deportations of post 1965 immigrants, as the whole process was dishonest and undemocratic from the start.

    America also needs to rid itself of Affirmative Action and to fix the schools and colleges, in order to make the best of native talent, which it’s always had in abundance. Encouraging and supporting the worst among us to pop out children that they don’t need, can’t afford, refuse to take responsibility for, and often don’t want for anything other than another check, should also be stopped.

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    The two million Ashkenazim imported between 1890 and 1920 and their spawn need to go first, they've done far more damage.
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  28. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    All you good little goys and girls keep cheering for the Mammonist bus driver that is heading the nation over the nearest cliff.

    One doesn’t make and lose four multi-billion dollar fortunes–in NYC, then make another, without being in bed with the lying, thieving, back-stabbing, murderous terrorists that have hijacked this nation and are bleeding us dry in endless wars and by looting the stock market
    .

    Trump will do what his puppeteers tell him to do.

    In the end, he’ll sell out just like Reagan did and give citizenship to millions of illegals, while his fans babble on about Trump playing some kind of 4 dimensional chess.

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    I agree. I also think that Trump's background, as the son of an immigrant mother, and the grandson of immigrants on his father's side, in a NYC that is steeped in immigrant propaganda and Statue of Liberty imagery, makes his view of America quite different from that of his base, which is mostly Old Stock Americans and the descendants of settlers. I don't think it would take much for Trump to betray his base and think nothing of it, as long as he can claim to have made a deal that nobody else could make. His campaign talk of "sending them back," and ending Birthright Citizenship, etc. was all just a bunch of cynical lies that he forgot as soon as he was elected. His wall will likely serve as much to keep the here, if it is very even built.
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  29. TG says:

    Perhaps.

    But it seems to me that what’s happened is that Trump has betrayed his base, he’s going to sell out on immigration by throwing a massive unlimited amnesty in exchange for nothing, but then have a pretend conflict with the Democrats to try and fool the voters into thinking that there is still a real conflict – when the reality is that Trump has appeared to go full open borders.

    Obama electrified Democratic voters with his soaring rhetoric, and he gloried in being attacked by conservatives, but all the while he was doing everything that his wealthy patrons wanted and stabbing his voters in the back. Perhaps Trump is now going to do the same thing to the Republicans?

    And has anyone else noticed: the mainstream media is suddenly oddly silent about Trump. When was the last time you heard screaming about being “literally Hitler” and a fascist etc?etc? There are still the obligate criticisms and insults, but the heat has dropped precipitously. You really think the mainstream media has stopped attacking Trump because they are convinced that Trump is reasonable? Hah. The only reason our scripted corporate press would have for not attacking Trump is that Trump is now on their side.

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  30. Truth says:

    Trump’s Strategy Working—He’s Maneuvered Democrats, RINOS, Into Favoring Foreigners Over Americans

    What an act of diabolical GENIUS!

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  31. Truth says:
    @Colleen Pater
    first this boomer bashing yeah maybe we are the 60 hippies and 70 nihilists generation but the left percentage then through now is small compared to the percentage of your pajama boy generations. And its worth pointing out from the perspective of the time it seemed reasonable to think niggers might be human and women might be trustworthy or jews might simply be skittish after the war, but generations born since those experiments have no excuse.

    Yeah derb might be optimistic its hard to not hope occasionally, if trumps cucked then war is the only choice left, so are you pajama boys ready to go to civil war, because frankly i dont think a one of you has even been in a fist fight let alone one with a street nigger or a cop.

    so are you pajama boys ready to go to civil war, because frankly i dont think a one of you has even been in a fist fight let alone one with a street nigger or a cop.

    OK Sheldon, you’ve had your fun, now please get off the internet and buckle down. Your boss wants those requisitions balanced by Monday COB.

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  32. @Greg Bacon
    All you good little goys and girls keep cheering for the Mammonist bus driver that is heading the nation over the nearest cliff.

    One doesn't make and lose four multi-billion dollar fortunes--in NYC, then make another, without being in bed with the lying, thieving, back-stabbing, murderous terrorists that have hijacked this nation and are bleeding us dry in endless wars and by looting the stock market
    .

    Trump will do what his puppeteers tell him to do.

    In the end, he'll sell out just like Reagan did and give citizenship to millions of illegals, while his fans babble on about Trump playing some kind of 4 dimensional chess.

    I agree. I also think that Trump’s background, as the son of an immigrant mother, and the grandson of immigrants on his father’s side, in a NYC that is steeped in immigrant propaganda and Statue of Liberty imagery, makes his view of America quite different from that of his base, which is mostly Old Stock Americans and the descendants of settlers. I don’t think it would take much for Trump to betray his base and think nothing of it, as long as he can claim to have made a deal that nobody else could make. His campaign talk of “sending them back,” and ending Birthright Citizenship, etc. was all just a bunch of cynical lies that he forgot as soon as he was elected. His wall will likely serve as much to keep the here, if it is very even built.

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  33. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Missing from articles and threads like this is any discussion of citizenship which is one of the few assets msny Americans have. Why devalue it by giving out more fecklessly? What's wrong with witholding all or some of its benefits until important conditions have neen met. What about 15 years of taxpaying for starters?

    Lol, another slave who doesn’t understand taxes. Every non-citizen gives up at least 10%. The slaves seem to be confused as to why some of their wealthiest masters renounce their US citizenship.

    “Illegals” live in states. Let the states deal with them. Most states willingly accept them because they work hard pay taxes and get things done. Only the least intelligent slaves want more laws, more restrictions, walls, more H1-Bs and other Big Government intrusions.

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  34. @Tom Welsh
    "I cringe to think I once voted for this moron".

    You shouldn't. The way the US electoral system has been set up for the past couple of centuries, you can't help voting for some moron - if you vote.

    In 2016 a large number (I think 40% or so) of entitled citizens refrained from voting at all. That is really the only constructive course of action left to an intelligent and ethically-minded citizen. When a few decline to vote, it makes little difference. Once more than half do so, the whole claim that the USA is a democracy will start to look increasingly untenable. "And here is our glorious new President, elected by 55% of the 39% who chose to vote"! (That is, about 22% of the entitled voters).

    "Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil".

    - Jerry Garcia

    As others have written below, why not a 3rd-party? Vote anyone but a flat-out Commie. I hadn’t voted for R’s or D’s since voting for Ronnie, until Trump in 2016. I still don’t have that much trust in his ability or even willingness to keep any promises, but in 2016:

    1) The Hildabeast could not be put in any position of power, just plain NO.
    2) The L-guy, Mr. Johnson, is a real whack-job, not like the L’s of old, your Dr. Paul’s, etc.
    3) YOU! DO! NOT! ELECT! THE! HILDABEAST!

    I am so glad you brought up my man, Gerry, with that quote. Maybe you could reply to me regarding what context he said that in – i.e. was he saying 3rd-party was the way to vote, or was he just also against voting in that kind of election, period?

    “Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.”

    (If you only have time for the Jerry lead, it’s right at 3:00 to 5:00.)

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  35. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Her is what is really strange with democrats:

    All DACA should stay because it would be extreme cruelty to deport them. They do not know other country then US.

    But then it is not cruelty to let emigrants into US when these people do know any other country than their native country.

    The attitude of Democrats has reached total absurdity.

    I do think that this is hilarious. He He He

    But then it is not cruelty to let emigrants into US when these people do know any other country than their native country.

    Exactly, we should not be taking pe0ple from foreign countries where they grew up and bringing them to the US against their will where they will be exposed to US television, corporations that try to trick them out of every last penny, and so on.

    The problem with the DACA kids and young adults is that it is fine to return a young doctor or dentist back to their country of birth where they can practice their art and apply for a US visa if they really want to come back.

    It is rather harder to deal with those who may be mentally or physically handicaped, mentally ill, and so on, or just don’t have any place to go back in the birth country, and you don’t want to create a large scale humanitarian crisis with the US paying to send people to concentration camps in their birth countries.

    And then you have the whole issues of them maybe having siblings who are US citizens, or step parents who are US citizens, and of breaking up families. I guess that Trump and his folks have figured all this out and how it can be done, but you never see detailed planning reported in the media.

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    You have my thumb up!!!!!!! (Brother or sister)
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  36. I am sounding the alarm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This site is under attack by Deplorable Geniuses.

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  37. KenH says:

    I don’t think Trump has necessarily displayed the genius that people think he has. The Democrats aren’t afraid to be loud and proud about their hatred of the historic American nation and the whites who still revere it. They don’t have to be 4D chessed into it.

    After all, third world tribalists and self hating whites have gone from fringe element to the base of the Democrat party in the last two decades. That will be the identity of the party going forward regardless of how much jewjitsu or 4D chess Trump resorts to or how much the economy grows each quarter. And the dems show far more respect for their basket of deplorables than Republicans do theirs.

    From all indications Trump appears very willing to provide a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million illegal aliens and possibly more in exchange for a wall trust fund, token reductions elsewhere in our immigration policy that won’t even take effect for almost a decade. If this is the art of the deal then count me out.

    Even more disturbing, he’s spoken lovingly about the DREAMers in media appearances and in tweets. This is a complete 180 degree turn from his campaign rhetoric and promises. I’m just surprised Trump didn’t tweet that he thought Peloser’s speech crowing about the browning of America was beautiful just like the DREAMers themselves.

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  38. Michael Shermer as a public intellectual has passed his expiration date. He might have seemed edgy 10-15 years ago, during the debate we had in the culture about atheism versus religion. But the frontier of freethinking has moved on to human biodiversity versus human fungibility, policed borders versus lawless borders, and nationalism versus globalism. Shermer has sided with the more naive, utopian alternatives in these debates, based on his commitment to the untenable legacies of the Enlightenment, and he has doomed himself to irrelevancy.

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  39. @Seneca44
    The poor human capital in the shithole countries is exacerbated by the ease of which the more motivated ones can come to the US. We would actually be doing them a favor if we actually enforced existing immigration laws so that they could improve their home countries. Similarly, the Europeans should make it absolutely impossible to stay in Europe after arriving in a makeshift boat across the Mediterranean. There would be zero drownings if everyone knew that they weren't going to be admitted even if they made it.

    I’m surprised this opinion isn’t heard more often. Every single one of the constantly stated immigration gains comes with an automatic loss somewhere else.

    Every justification for illegal immigration is tacit approval for the suffering, exploitation and death that they experience as a direct consequence of increased support and lax enforcement here. We’re basically advertising prizes for the survivors of a death march and calling it a “humanitarian” approach.

    Do we get “the best” people? If that’s true, then we’re robbing the rest of the world of its human capital to improve the conditions that they’re fleeing. If it’s not true, then we’re making it progressively more difficult to improve ANY lives with every new division of immigration resources (perhaps the only point of agreement is that immigration services are already swamped).

    There’s simply no reason to consider the liberal approach as any kind of moral and ethical high ground. They are the crazy cat ladies of immigration – the urge to care without rational understanding of your limits, inevitably resulting in more neglect and abuse. Every mature human being knows that learning to say “no” is kinder in the long run than always saying “yes.”

    And that’s assuming that there is kind intent to begin with, rather than simple political and economic gain lurking cynically behind the humanitarian rhetoric…

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  40. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Anon from TN
    I wish Trump cared more about the country, like he promised during his campaign, then about outmaneuvering Democrats. Unfortunately, he does not seem to.

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    Tightening down on the slaves happens after every Government Psyop.

    Trump is the Psyop.

    The voters picked Trump, just like the voters picked W, Obama, Clinton, etc. The voters keep the decent people enslaved to these creatures. The voters love their slavery. The first clue to the slaves was Trump is a NY liberal family, that means the voters love paying massive taxes for an inept military and nothing else. The voters hate their own families and love creatures like Trump, W, Obama, Clinton, etc. Only someone who hates their own family would vote for someone else who promises to run their lives, tell them what laws to obey, and make them pay taxes or go to prison. English has a word for that system - Slavery.

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  41. turtle says:

    >Mr. Speaker, they are a blessing so across the board … These are the best of the best. They are so fabulous …

    Maybe someone could arrange for Ms. Pelosi to meet some of these “fabulous” folks:

    http://www.lapdonline.org/top_ten_most_wanted

    She represents this district:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California%27s_12th_congressional_district

    and probably doesn’t get out much.

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    Pelosi's congressional office requires adherence to the Constitution and duty to those she represents. By definition, the most specialest, fabulous, brown eyed gardeners, cooks, maids, nannies and vineyard laborers, if here illegally, are not the people referred to by the oath of office.

    Any member of congress who remains blind to the cost to their constituents and who instead advocates for illegal aliens should be recalled from office.

    Any governor or mayor who advocates for illegals over taxpayers should be removed from office.

    Office is a duty to the taxpayers and voters who conferred authority. You can no more decide to prefer illegals than prefer bank robbers. The legal hierarchy places the Constitution above selective, preferred law breaking. To do so is to violate their office.

    Because no law maker has ever been held accountable for abusing their office, there is one group considering trying to use RICO against congress as that is what they are and deserve if they do not support the rule of law and representative system from which they derive their power.

    Pelosi's grandchildren are victims of child abuse to be so unhappy with their appearance. (I sure hope they don't attend one of those fancy private schools and miss out on all the diversity.) Liberals used to be obsessed with self esteem, but apparently even that's racist for white children. It is bad enough for her to be an abusive grandparent but totally unacceptable for her to dictate her whims from congress. She should be removed, impeached, recalled, RICO'd, censured, tarred and feathered... whatever could be done to say it's not acceptable to have congress not only not work for us, but actively work against us.
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  42. @Jonathan Mason

    But then it is not cruelty to let emigrants into US when these people do know any other country than their native country.
     
    Exactly, we should not be taking pe0ple from foreign countries where they grew up and bringing them to the US against their will where they will be exposed to US television, corporations that try to trick them out of every last penny, and so on.

    The problem with the DACA kids and young adults is that it is fine to return a young doctor or dentist back to their country of birth where they can practice their art and apply for a US visa if they really want to come back.

    It is rather harder to deal with those who may be mentally or physically handicaped, mentally ill, and so on, or just don't have any place to go back in the birth country, and you don't want to create a large scale humanitarian crisis with the US paying to send people to concentration camps in their birth countries.

    And then you have the whole issues of them maybe having siblings who are US citizens, or step parents who are US citizens, and of breaking up families. I guess that Trump and his folks have figured all this out and how it can be done, but you never see detailed planning reported in the media.

    You have my thumb up!!!!!!! (Brother or sister)

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  43. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Anon from TN
    I wish Trump cared more about the country, like he promised during his campaign, then about outmaneuvering Democrats. Unfortunately, he does not seem to.

    Tightening down on the slaves happens after every Government Psyop.

    Trump is the Psyop.

    The voters picked Trump, just like the voters picked W, Obama, Clinton, etc. The voters keep the decent people enslaved to these creatures. The voters love their slavery. The first clue to the slaves was Trump is a NY liberal family, that means the voters love paying massive taxes for an inept military and nothing else. The voters hate their own families and love creatures like Trump, W, Obama, Clinton, etc. Only someone who hates their own family would vote for someone else who promises to run their lives, tell them what laws to obey, and make them pay taxes or go to prison. English has a word for that system – Slavery.

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  44. densa says:
    @turtle
    >Mr. Speaker, they are a blessing so across the board … These are the best of the best. They are so fabulous …

    Maybe someone could arrange for Ms. Pelosi to meet some of these "fabulous" folks:

    http://www.lapdonline.org/top_ten_most_wanted

    She represents this district:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California%27s_12th_congressional_district

    and probably doesn't get out much.

    Pelosi’s congressional office requires adherence to the Constitution and duty to those she represents. By definition, the most specialest, fabulous, brown eyed gardeners, cooks, maids, nannies and vineyard laborers, if here illegally, are not the people referred to by the oath of office.

    Any member of congress who remains blind to the cost to their constituents and who instead advocates for illegal aliens should be recalled from office.

    Any governor or mayor who advocates for illegals over taxpayers should be removed from office.

    Office is a duty to the taxpayers and voters who conferred authority. You can no more decide to prefer illegals than prefer bank robbers. The legal hierarchy places the Constitution above selective, preferred law breaking. To do so is to violate their office.

    Because no law maker has ever been held accountable for abusing their office, there is one group considering trying to use RICO against congress as that is what they are and deserve if they do not support the rule of law and representative system from which they derive their power.

    Pelosi’s grandchildren are victims of child abuse to be so unhappy with their appearance. (I sure hope they don’t attend one of those fancy private schools and miss out on all the diversity.) Liberals used to be obsessed with self esteem, but apparently even that’s racist for white children. It is bad enough for her to be an abusive grandparent but totally unacceptable for her to dictate her whims from congress. She should be removed, impeached, recalled, RICO’d, censured, tarred and feathered… whatever could be done to say it’s not acceptable to have congress not only not work for us, but actively work against us.

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    You are dead right. we have to make these nannies cooks and domestic servants a little bit more expensive.
    , @FLgeezer
    Great post Densa. Thanks.

    I would add the corollary that “any elected official or bureaucrat who holds dual citizenship shall be removed from office”.
    , @Eckbach
    "Why are so many women desperate to be white..."
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1225895/YASMIN-ALIBHAI-BROWN-Why-black-Asian-women-desperate-white.html
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  45. @Anonymous
    Trump belongs to the Ruling Class. If he didn't, the rulers never would have selected him as president.

    Conservative slaves can't see how e-verify is another set of chains and shackles the Government uses to protect them from freedom.

    The ruling class selects and means tests its slaves carefully and will harvest them as they please. For the domestic slaves, only the best actor is appointed to the role of President. The confused children simultaneously condemn and adore the Golden Calf as they go about their daily slave chores.

    “If he didn’t, the rulers never would have selected him as president.”

    Maybe they figured he would be the perfect fall-guy for the coming collapse they will use to flush the last of our wealth out of our pockets and into theirs.

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  46. @Colleen Pater
    first this boomer bashing yeah maybe we are the 60 hippies and 70 nihilists generation but the left percentage then through now is small compared to the percentage of your pajama boy generations. And its worth pointing out from the perspective of the time it seemed reasonable to think niggers might be human and women might be trustworthy or jews might simply be skittish after the war, but generations born since those experiments have no excuse.

    Yeah derb might be optimistic its hard to not hope occasionally, if trumps cucked then war is the only choice left, so are you pajama boys ready to go to civil war, because frankly i dont think a one of you has even been in a fist fight let alone one with a street nigger or a cop.

    “… don’t think a one of you has even been in a fist fight let alone with a street nigger or a cop. …”

    To engage in a fight with a cop you must either be a drunk dumbass or a street Black.

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    Like i said youre all punks
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  47. Trump offers amnesty for dreamers. Democrats refuse.

    I don’t see how this can be good for Democrats at the polls. When they lose the brown vote all the Jews and self hating whites have left is blacks and perverts.

    Now and again I hear about a possible Biden candidacy. Biden is a white Christian heterosexual male. How is that supposed to work?

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    Biden is old; he turns 78 right after the 2020 election.

    He gets enough stupid whites to feel more comfortable and vote dem and then his Veep — an African or Mexican — takes over when he dies or decides not to run for re-election.

    Biden / Kamala Harris 2020 =
    incumbent President Harris / Mexican VP 2024

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  48. @densa
    Pelosi's congressional office requires adherence to the Constitution and duty to those she represents. By definition, the most specialest, fabulous, brown eyed gardeners, cooks, maids, nannies and vineyard laborers, if here illegally, are not the people referred to by the oath of office.

    Any member of congress who remains blind to the cost to their constituents and who instead advocates for illegal aliens should be recalled from office.

    Any governor or mayor who advocates for illegals over taxpayers should be removed from office.

    Office is a duty to the taxpayers and voters who conferred authority. You can no more decide to prefer illegals than prefer bank robbers. The legal hierarchy places the Constitution above selective, preferred law breaking. To do so is to violate their office.

    Because no law maker has ever been held accountable for abusing their office, there is one group considering trying to use RICO against congress as that is what they are and deserve if they do not support the rule of law and representative system from which they derive their power.

    Pelosi's grandchildren are victims of child abuse to be so unhappy with their appearance. (I sure hope they don't attend one of those fancy private schools and miss out on all the diversity.) Liberals used to be obsessed with self esteem, but apparently even that's racist for white children. It is bad enough for her to be an abusive grandparent but totally unacceptable for her to dictate her whims from congress. She should be removed, impeached, recalled, RICO'd, censured, tarred and feathered... whatever could be done to say it's not acceptable to have congress not only not work for us, but actively work against us.

    You are dead right. we have to make these nannies cooks and domestic servants a little bit more expensive.

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  49. eah says:

    A better title:

    Trump’s Strategy Working—He’s Maneuvered Democrats, RINOS, Into Favoring Foreigners Non-Whites Over Americans Whites

    And it didn’t take much ‘maneuvering’.

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    Both parties at every level have been anti-White since at least 1965. Mass third world immigration and forced assimilation with non-Whites has been supported by both parties ever since then.

    The diversity religion being promoted is used as a justification to basically commit White genocide according to UN guidelines.

    "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national,ethnical,racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and]forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

    You can't tell me that deliberately pursuing policies to turn America or any other White country brown is not genocide. The people that preach diversity even celebrate Whites dissapearing. No one in either party has ever argued against diversity that I can remember. Until they do they should both be considered anti-White.

    Have Republicans ever defended White interests or even the interests of any US citizen as hard as the democrats defend illegals? Foreigners entering the US illegally get better political representation than any US citizen does and much better than any White citizen.

    Are there any sanctuary cities where Whites can go to avoid "diversity" quotas and other "affirmative" action discrimination against them? No all they are told is to shut up and check their "privilege" and suffer so that non-Whites may prosper. Because of reasons. Because of diversity.
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  50. FLgeezer says:
    @densa
    Pelosi's congressional office requires adherence to the Constitution and duty to those she represents. By definition, the most specialest, fabulous, brown eyed gardeners, cooks, maids, nannies and vineyard laborers, if here illegally, are not the people referred to by the oath of office.

    Any member of congress who remains blind to the cost to their constituents and who instead advocates for illegal aliens should be recalled from office.

    Any governor or mayor who advocates for illegals over taxpayers should be removed from office.

    Office is a duty to the taxpayers and voters who conferred authority. You can no more decide to prefer illegals than prefer bank robbers. The legal hierarchy places the Constitution above selective, preferred law breaking. To do so is to violate their office.

    Because no law maker has ever been held accountable for abusing their office, there is one group considering trying to use RICO against congress as that is what they are and deserve if they do not support the rule of law and representative system from which they derive their power.

    Pelosi's grandchildren are victims of child abuse to be so unhappy with their appearance. (I sure hope they don't attend one of those fancy private schools and miss out on all the diversity.) Liberals used to be obsessed with self esteem, but apparently even that's racist for white children. It is bad enough for her to be an abusive grandparent but totally unacceptable for her to dictate her whims from congress. She should be removed, impeached, recalled, RICO'd, censured, tarred and feathered... whatever could be done to say it's not acceptable to have congress not only not work for us, but actively work against us.

    Great post Densa. Thanks.

    I would add the corollary that “any elected official or bureaucrat who holds dual citizenship shall be removed from office”.

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  51. liz says:
    @Anon7
    I think President Trump can win big in the DACA debate. We’ve spent $1 trillion giving the DACA “kids” the best support and education we can - now they’re our gift to the world! Shouldn’t we return them to their native lands in triumph? Three and a half million ambassadors spreading out across the world! It sends shivers down my spine. It’s better than the Peace Corps! We could even offer them a stipend, just like the Corps.

    An awesome idea!
    Imagine what Turkey could have been like if the Germans actually treated them like guest workers, and sent them back with all their skills and new outlook on life after 20 years with a small pension.

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    This would work. The best way is to start it out small, by tracking what has happened to a few choice DACAmbassadors (tm) who have already returned home (I'm sure they're doing great) - then spring it on the world! I'm really pumped about this.
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  52. @SunBakedSuburb
    "... don't think a one of you has even been in a fist fight let alone with a street nigger or a cop. ..."

    To engage in a fight with a cop you must either be a drunk dumbass or a street Black.

    Like i said youre all punks

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  53. @SteveK9
    A reasonable goal I believe is 1) legal and controlled immigration, 2) a goal of assimilation into American society/culture, and 3) levels of immigration consistent with 2).

    The only reasonable immigration program after nearly three decades of awarding 1.5 million visas annually to foreign affirmative action beneficiaries producing generations of descendants dependent on government redistribution is no immigration program. We not only need zero immigrants, we need a program of reverse immigration.

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  54. @Seamus Padraig

    Dreamers Threaten To Leave U.S. If DACA Deal Doesn’t Allow Them To Stay
     
    "In other news, a condemned man has threatened to commit suicide if his death penalty is not commuted."

    What are the root causes of illegal immigration — other than lax border security ...
     
    I can think of one: NAFTA. What that damned treaty did to American industry, it also did to Mexican agriculture. Allowing Monsanto into the Mexican market completely destroyed the country's poor farmers economically, forcing large numbers of them to head pa' norte to look for work.

    Spot on with that reference to Mexico’s peasant farmers and NAFTA. And the reference to Monsanto trouble making.

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  55. Eckbach says:
    @Realist
    I'd be very leery about giving Trump credit for intelligence.

    Especially if he gets it from the FBI, CIA, NSA, MOSSAD, MI6 Et Al

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  56. Eckbach says:
    @densa
    Pelosi's congressional office requires adherence to the Constitution and duty to those she represents. By definition, the most specialest, fabulous, brown eyed gardeners, cooks, maids, nannies and vineyard laborers, if here illegally, are not the people referred to by the oath of office.

    Any member of congress who remains blind to the cost to their constituents and who instead advocates for illegal aliens should be recalled from office.

    Any governor or mayor who advocates for illegals over taxpayers should be removed from office.

    Office is a duty to the taxpayers and voters who conferred authority. You can no more decide to prefer illegals than prefer bank robbers. The legal hierarchy places the Constitution above selective, preferred law breaking. To do so is to violate their office.

    Because no law maker has ever been held accountable for abusing their office, there is one group considering trying to use RICO against congress as that is what they are and deserve if they do not support the rule of law and representative system from which they derive their power.

    Pelosi's grandchildren are victims of child abuse to be so unhappy with their appearance. (I sure hope they don't attend one of those fancy private schools and miss out on all the diversity.) Liberals used to be obsessed with self esteem, but apparently even that's racist for white children. It is bad enough for her to be an abusive grandparent but totally unacceptable for her to dictate her whims from congress. She should be removed, impeached, recalled, RICO'd, censured, tarred and feathered... whatever could be done to say it's not acceptable to have congress not only not work for us, but actively work against us.
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  57. foobc says:

    Derbyshire – who rails against foreigners – has a Chinese wife. Which is to say, an utterly alien being that he imported into this country, all the while railing against…foreigners.

    Derbyshire couldn’t get a Caucasoid women, so he had to resort to a China woman.

    This is the lesson in a nutshell. Talk and railing against foreign born (while appropriate in sentiment) is ultimately cheap. Even the greatest of those talkers will ultimately betray their own principles, if it benefits them pesronally. Always have, always will.

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  58. @Randal

    But the cause of those crappy life prospects — the root root root cause of illegal immigration — is the low level of human capital in those countries.

    Concerning which, to the best of my understanding, not only can Uncle Sam do nothing—nobody can do anything.
     
    But of course the US (and the UK and European nations) most certainly can help outhouse countries to improve their problems with low levels of human capital, namely by stopping stealing away some of their best and brightest by offering them opportunities to immigrate to a richer country, and forcing them to stay at home and work to improve their own, until perhaps one day it might be better than an outhouse.

    When Trump says of these countries that "they aren't sending their best", that's misleading. In reality they are sending many of their best, along with plenty of their worst. But that doesn't mean the children and wider families of those "best" will also be among the best, thanks to regression to the mean, or have any loyalty to their host country, thanks to the commonplace mixture of surly entitlement, external loyalties and resentment amongst second and third generation immigrants.

    Dreamers Threaten To Leave U.S. If DACA Deal Doesn’t Allow Them To Stay

     

    Looks like Trump is all over this one already, anyway, putting in place the policies needed to help those outhouse countries to improve their own low levels of human capital.

    I have quite a bit of sympathy for Mr Derb’ here. Immigration is a huge problem in the US & the West generally.
    However, we DO have to look at root causes.
    Many immigrants (not all by any means) do not want to leave their homes. Yet they do: often because the West finds it easier to just ” let em in”, rather than deal with the complex of push/ pull factors.
    Therefore, the West needs to act to deal with those factors. (Its like charity: much easier, CHEAPER to dole out a bit of $$ here or there, than sort out the causes of poverty)
    So there are literally 100′s of things the West can do. A small sample:
    Stop creating vicious imperially inspired wars. Would millions of Syrians have lobbed into Europe absent the war ? (And Turkey’s blackmail & — put mildly — its bad faith)
    Stop giving loans (by the economic hitmen) to corrupt regimes which are promptly stolen by local elites. Leaving the “people” to pay loans back via higher taxes & lower services
    Stop pinching whatever best & brightest that some of these ” shitholes” produce, because OUR elites wont train locals or want foreigners because they are so easy to rort.
    I could go on–& on…. The point ? WE can do things to stop immigration. Sadly, none of it is easy.

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    It only seems hard, because all those in leadership positions benefit from mass immigration, including as you say "pinching whatever best & brightest that some of these 'shitholes" produce."

    I mean, why would it be hard to stop "pinching" off the la creme de la creme? Just stop it! Stop the guest worker visas and free up jobs for Americans. Most Americans would be totally happy with that.

    Also, it's not hard to stop dropping 20,000 bombs per year on half dozen plus countries. Just stop it! The same with foreign aid.

    Also, it's not hard to enforce immigration laws, even with "push/pull factors". The elites just don't want to do it, and so they pretend it's really hard and it can't be done. There will always be "push/pull factors", and no one will ever "sort out the causes of poverty" well enough to remove them.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Stop creating vicious imperially inspired wars
     
    Like we did in 1917 and 1941?

    I was always taught those were ongoing affairs, created by someone else years earlier.

    Tell the frogs to stop naming their streets after our worst imperialists. We wuz Isolationists once!

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  59. Eileen Kuch says: • Website
    @Tom Welsh
    "I cringe to think I once voted for this moron".

    You shouldn't. The way the US electoral system has been set up for the past couple of centuries, you can't help voting for some moron - if you vote.

    In 2016 a large number (I think 40% or so) of entitled citizens refrained from voting at all. That is really the only constructive course of action left to an intelligent and ethically-minded citizen. When a few decline to vote, it makes little difference. Once more than half do so, the whole claim that the USA is a democracy will start to look increasingly untenable. "And here is our glorious new President, elected by 55% of the 39% who chose to vote"! (That is, about 22% of the entitled voters).

    "Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil".

    - Jerry Garcia

    You just said one thing the US actually is not, Tom, that the US is a democracy. The US isn’t a democracy; it never was a democracy; the Founding Fathers established the US as a Constitutional Republic, and this country is still a Constitutional Republic.
    In 2016, as you rightly said, a large number (around 40% or so) of entitled citizens didn’t vote at all. That’s really the only constructive action left to an intelligent and ethically-minded citizen. When a few decline to vote, it makes little difference. Once more than half do so, the whole claim that the US is a democracy will start to look increasingly untenable. “And here’s our glorious new President, elected by 55% of the 39% who chose to vote”! (That is. about 22% of the entitled voters).
    “Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil”. ~ Jerry Garcia

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  60. @Eileen Kuch
    You just said one thing the US actually is not, Tom, that the US is a democracy. The US isn't a democracy; it never was a democracy; the Founding Fathers established the US as a Constitutional Republic, and this country is still a Constitutional Republic.
    In 2016, as you rightly said, a large number (around 40% or so) of entitled citizens didn't vote at all. That's really the only constructive action left to an intelligent and ethically-minded citizen. When a few decline to vote, it makes little difference. Once more than half do so, the whole claim that the US is a democracy will start to look increasingly untenable. "And here's our glorious new President, elected by 55% of the 39% who chose to vote"! (That is. about 22% of the entitled voters).
    "Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil". ~ Jerry Garcia

    You welcome.

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  61. WhiteWolf says:
    @eah
    A better title:

    Trump’s Strategy Working—He’s Maneuvered Democrats, RINOS, Into Favoring Foreigners Non-Whites Over Americans Whites

    And it didn't take much 'maneuvering'.

    Both parties at every level have been anti-White since at least 1965. Mass third world immigration and forced assimilation with non-Whites has been supported by both parties ever since then.

    The diversity religion being promoted is used as a justification to basically commit White genocide according to UN guidelines.

    “any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national,ethnical,racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and]forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”

    You can’t tell me that deliberately pursuing policies to turn America or any other White country brown is not genocide. The people that preach diversity even celebrate Whites dissapearing. No one in either party has ever argued against diversity that I can remember. Until they do they should both be considered anti-White.

    Have Republicans ever defended White interests or even the interests of any US citizen as hard as the democrats defend illegals? Foreigners entering the US illegally get better political representation than any US citizen does and much better than any White citizen.

    Are there any sanctuary cities where Whites can go to avoid “diversity” quotas and other “affirmative” action discrimination against them? No all they are told is to shut up and check their “privilege” and suffer so that non-Whites may prosper. Because of reasons. Because of diversity.

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    You are absolutely right and the very worst affirmative action damage was done to Whites by a Republican, Richard Nixon. Plus he created the affirmative action Hispanic race by executive order.
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  62. Realist says:
    @Eckbach
    Especially if he gets it from the FBI, CIA, NSA, MOSSAD, MI6 Et Al

    Definitely..

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  63. @OilcanFloyd
    America needs very few immigeants, legal or illegal. What America needs is mass deportations of post 1965 immigrants, as the whole process was dishonest and undemocratic from the start.

    America also needs to rid itself of Affirmative Action and to fix the schools and colleges, in order to make the best of native talent, which it's always had in abundance. Encouraging and supporting the worst among us to pop out children that they don't need, can't afford, refuse to take responsibility for, and often don't want for anything other than another check, should also be stopped.

    The two million Ashkenazim imported between 1890 and 1920 and their spawn need to go first, they’ve done far more damage.

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    I agree. They alone are a great argument against immigration, and proof that some groups have no intention of ever assimilating. Jews have largely been nothing but hostile ingrates from the very beginning, and their negatives far outweigh their positives, which is a great argument against "smart" immigrants.
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  64. ziggurat says:
    @animalogic
    I have quite a bit of sympathy for Mr Derb' here. Immigration is a huge problem in the US & the West generally.
    However, we DO have to look at root causes.
    Many immigrants (not all by any means) do not want to leave their homes. Yet they do: often because the West finds it easier to just " let em in", rather than deal with the complex of push/ pull factors.
    Therefore, the West needs to act to deal with those factors. (Its like charity: much easier, CHEAPER to dole out a bit of $$ here or there, than sort out the causes of poverty)
    So there are literally 100's of things the West can do. A small sample:
    Stop creating vicious imperially inspired wars. Would millions of Syrians have lobbed into Europe absent the war ? (And Turkey's blackmail & -- put mildly -- its bad faith)
    Stop giving loans (by the economic hitmen) to corrupt regimes which are promptly stolen by local elites. Leaving the "people" to pay loans back via higher taxes & lower services
    Stop pinching whatever best & brightest that some of these " shitholes" produce, because OUR elites wont train locals or want foreigners because they are so easy to rort.
    I could go on--& on.... The point ? WE can do things to stop immigration. Sadly, none of it is easy.

    It only seems hard, because all those in leadership positions benefit from mass immigration, including as you say “pinching whatever best & brightest that some of these ‘shitholes” produce.”

    I mean, why would it be hard to stop “pinching” off the la creme de la creme? Just stop it! Stop the guest worker visas and free up jobs for Americans. Most Americans would be totally happy with that.

    Also, it’s not hard to stop dropping 20,000 bombs per year on half dozen plus countries. Just stop it! The same with foreign aid.

    Also, it’s not hard to enforce immigration laws, even with “push/pull factors”. The elites just don’t want to do it, and so they pretend it’s really hard and it can’t be done. There will always be “push/pull factors”, and no one will ever “sort out the causes of poverty” well enough to remove them.

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  65. KenH says:

    Derb’s optimism of Trump on immigration is unfounded. It looks like we’re going to get a gang of eight light bill and our legal immigration policy will continue to import large numbers of “vetted” people from third world nations until we collapse or Russia fires some well deserved nukes at us.

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  66. Oh, they mean the root root causes — crappy life prospects in the outhouse countries that most of the illegals come from. What control does the U.S. government have over that?

    How about when other countries, many of them the aforementioned ‘shitholes’ send their best youth here for an education at that country’s expense that we send them back home in order to improve the ‘shithole’?

    We steal and do a lot of murder. But the worst damage we do to poor countries is steal THEIR best after we fleece their governments for out-of-state tuition, educating them as doctors, engineers, civil infrastructure types, and then we allow them to stay here. They need to go back to improve the ‘shithole’ and our own people will have more jobs to boot. The brain trust, the sheer human capital theft we commit against other nations in the name of ‘freedom’ is pretty hideous. Pelosi should be ashamed.

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  67. @Bill Jones
    The two million Ashkenazim imported between 1890 and 1920 and their spawn need to go first, they've done far more damage.

    I agree. They alone are a great argument against immigration, and proof that some groups have no intention of ever assimilating. Jews have largely been nothing but hostile ingrates from the very beginning, and their negatives far outweigh their positives, which is a great argument against “smart” immigrants.

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  68. @Seneca44
    The poor human capital in the shithole countries is exacerbated by the ease of which the more motivated ones can come to the US. We would actually be doing them a favor if we actually enforced existing immigration laws so that they could improve their home countries. Similarly, the Europeans should make it absolutely impossible to stay in Europe after arriving in a makeshift boat across the Mediterranean. There would be zero drownings if everyone knew that they weren't going to be admitted even if they made it.

    The Beatles, of course famously moved, En Mass to the US and recorded a song to celebrate because in Harold Wilson’s England their top tax rate was 95%.

    Not a problem, one thinks in Somalia.

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    The Stones had their own offshore stint to protest those high rates of Inland Revenue. I wonder how many in Parliament listened to Beatles and Stones music, or to their kids and constituents opinions, while contemplating better tax policies and less exile.
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  69. @animalogic
    I have quite a bit of sympathy for Mr Derb' here. Immigration is a huge problem in the US & the West generally.
    However, we DO have to look at root causes.
    Many immigrants (not all by any means) do not want to leave their homes. Yet they do: often because the West finds it easier to just " let em in", rather than deal with the complex of push/ pull factors.
    Therefore, the West needs to act to deal with those factors. (Its like charity: much easier, CHEAPER to dole out a bit of $$ here or there, than sort out the causes of poverty)
    So there are literally 100's of things the West can do. A small sample:
    Stop creating vicious imperially inspired wars. Would millions of Syrians have lobbed into Europe absent the war ? (And Turkey's blackmail & -- put mildly -- its bad faith)
    Stop giving loans (by the economic hitmen) to corrupt regimes which are promptly stolen by local elites. Leaving the "people" to pay loans back via higher taxes & lower services
    Stop pinching whatever best & brightest that some of these " shitholes" produce, because OUR elites wont train locals or want foreigners because they are so easy to rort.
    I could go on--& on.... The point ? WE can do things to stop immigration. Sadly, none of it is easy.

    Stop creating vicious imperially inspired wars

    Like we did in 1917 and 1941?

    I was always taught those were ongoing affairs, created by someone else years earlier.

    Tell the frogs to stop naming their streets after our worst imperialists. We wuz Isolationists once!

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  70. @WorkingClass
    Trump offers amnesty for dreamers. Democrats refuse.

    I don't see how this can be good for Democrats at the polls. When they lose the brown vote all the Jews and self hating whites have left is blacks and perverts.

    Now and again I hear about a possible Biden candidacy. Biden is a white Christian heterosexual male. How is that supposed to work?

    Biden is old; he turns 78 right after the 2020 election.

    He gets enough stupid whites to feel more comfortable and vote dem and then his Veep — an African or Mexican — takes over when he dies or decides not to run for re-election.

    Biden / Kamala Harris 2020 =
    incumbent President Harris / Mexican VP 2024

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  71. Ivy says:
    @Bill Jones
    The Beatles, of course famously moved, En Mass to the US and recorded a song to celebrate because in Harold Wilson's England their top tax rate was 95%.

    Not a problem, one thinks in Somalia.

    The Stones had their own offshore stint to protest those high rates of Inland Revenue. I wonder how many in Parliament listened to Beatles and Stones music, or to their kids and constituents opinions, while contemplating better tax policies and less exile.

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  72. Anon7 says:
    @liz
    An awesome idea!
    Imagine what Turkey could have been like if the Germans actually treated them like guest workers, and sent them back with all their skills and new outlook on life after 20 years with a small pension.

    This would work. The best way is to start it out small, by tracking what has happened to a few choice DACAmbassadors ™ who have already returned home (I’m sure they’re doing great) – then spring it on the world! I’m really pumped about this.

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  73. Alden says:
    @WhiteWolf
    Both parties at every level have been anti-White since at least 1965. Mass third world immigration and forced assimilation with non-Whites has been supported by both parties ever since then.

    The diversity religion being promoted is used as a justification to basically commit White genocide according to UN guidelines.

    "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national,ethnical,racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and]forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."

    You can't tell me that deliberately pursuing policies to turn America or any other White country brown is not genocide. The people that preach diversity even celebrate Whites dissapearing. No one in either party has ever argued against diversity that I can remember. Until they do they should both be considered anti-White.

    Have Republicans ever defended White interests or even the interests of any US citizen as hard as the democrats defend illegals? Foreigners entering the US illegally get better political representation than any US citizen does and much better than any White citizen.

    Are there any sanctuary cities where Whites can go to avoid "diversity" quotas and other "affirmative" action discrimination against them? No all they are told is to shut up and check their "privilege" and suffer so that non-Whites may prosper. Because of reasons. Because of diversity.

    You are absolutely right and the very worst affirmative action damage was done to Whites by a Republican, Richard Nixon. Plus he created the affirmative action Hispanic race by executive order.

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