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I’ve got to assume that very few Americans ever heard of Telford, a district in the English West Midlands. Steve Sailer admits to never having heard of it; and if Steve hasn’t heard of it, nobody has.

This is excusable. There was no such place as Telford until 1968. That was when bureaucratic managerialism in Britain was in the ascendant. Ancient towns and villages were being grouped together in strange new entities under stone-faced administrators filled with a conviction of their own managerial competence. Britain’s old counties were reorganized to suit the inclinations and convenience of these mandarins, and people were shoveled around like so many truckloads of concrete.

Shortly afterwards Britain entered the European Union, and those British mandarins, to their delight, became globalist apparatchiks, with way bigger expense accounts. They must have had many a laugh with each other, over the champagne and truffles, at how easy it had been.

It was the end of old England. Mass Third World immigration was a key component of the new order. British people who dared to raise their voices against what was happening—people like Enoch Powell—were insulted, abused, and hounded out of public life.

Telford was, in other words, created out of thin air just as Britain’s modern Cultural Revolution was gathering steam: the revolution that turned an ancient, proud, dynamic, and distinctive nation into the third-rate multicultural slum we see today—Cuck Island.

Let’s be grateful for small mercies, though. At least the mandarins gave their new creation a name, when they probably would have preferred just to give it a number: “District 479,” or perhaps “Airstrip One.”

The name was a fine and honorable one, too—surely an oversight. This new district was named after Thomas Telford, the son of an illiterate shepherd in the rough border country where England meets Scotland—the ancestral home of our own “Scotch-Irish.”

Thomas Telford became the greatest civil engineer of his time, the late eighteenth and early nineteenth century. The innumerable roads, bridges, and canals he built were the foundation for Britain‘s—and therefore the world‘s—Industrial Revolution.

The region now called Telford was at the heart of the early Industrial Revolution. There are several excellent museums there covering the period. I strongly recommend a visit next time you are in England, especially if you have kids who need to know some history. Right nearby is the great Iron Bridge, opened in 1781—not one of Thomas Telford’s, but the first bridge of any size, anywhere in the world, made out of iron.

My father grew up Oakengates, five miles from the Iron Bridge. In Dad’s childhood a hundred-odd years ago, Oakengates was a little coal-mining village. It’s now been swallowed up in the Telford district. I spent time in my own childhood in and around Oakengates. Aged eight or nine, I climbed the Wrekin, which is what passes for a mountain in the flat West Midlands countryside—all of thirteen hundred feet high.

The Telford created fifty years ago wasn’t just an administrative abstraction. The bureaucrats built an actual town, with lots of glass-and-concrete modern buildings, residential projects, and housing estates. People were moved in from the big old industrial cities further east: Birmingham, Wolverhampton, and Walsall.

Some of these people were old-stock English proles that Charles Dickens would have recognized. Others were Third World immigrants: Muslims from Pakistan and Bangladesh, blacks from the Caribbean and Africa.

Thence to last week’s news:

Up to 1,000 children could have been abused in Britain’s biggest ever child abuse scandal, an investigation has revealed.

Hundreds of children, some as young as 11, are estimated to have been drugged, beaten and raped over a 40-year period in the town of Telford.

1,000 children may have been victims in Britain’s biggest ever child abuse scandal,

By Callum Adams, March 14, 2018

Notice that key phrase: “over a 40-year period.” In other words, no sooner was the cement dry on this new town of Telford, and the white proles and the Muslims moved into those gleaming new projects, than the Muslims were preying on the white girls.

It’s the Rotherham scandal of five years ago all over again. And, as there, nobody much cared about these girls. From the point of view of the globalized mandarins and the middle-class social workers with degrees in Sociology from Cuck University, the girls were just white trash, totally lacking in the vibrancy and diversity that make a modern society worth living in.

Also, as in Rotherham—and in Nottingham, where Egyptian student Mariam Moustafa was just beaten to death by Third World savages—the police had no interest in investigating what was going on, much less in arresting and prosecuting the perpetrators. If they did show such interest, someone might call them RACIST. [Scream].

So British law enforcement won’t pursue rapists and murderers who are black or Muslim. Doesn’t that leave them with time on their hands, though? What do British cops and other law enforcers do all day long to justify their salaries?

This week we found out.

Speakers’ Corner is an open area at the northeast corner of Hyde Park in west-central London. It’s been famous for two hundred years as a spot where dissidents, political radicals, religious zealots, self-styled prophets, and just plain cranks can get up on a soapbox and say what’s on their minds. Wikipedia says:

Speakers’ Corner was frequented by Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, George Orwell, C. L. R. James, Walter Rodney, Ben Tillett, Marcus Garvey, Kwame Nkrumah, and William Morris… Its existence is frequently upheld as a demonstration of free speech, as anyone can turn up unannounced and talk on almost any subject, although always at the risk of being heckled by regulars.

Well, British dissident Tommy Robinson, who has made a name for himself as a critic of Islam, went to Speakers’ Corner last weekend to get up on his soapbox and speak to anyone willing to listen. His subject, very apt for Speakers’ Corner, was freedom of speech.

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Tommy had barely cleared his throat when the Peelers showed up—at least four of them, in a squad car. They told him to pack up his soap box and leave, if he knew what was good for him. Tommy caught the whole episode on video.

Put this together with the episode at King’s College in London that I reported on last week, and it’s clear that the British authorities now regard freedom of speech to be a subversive notion—at any rate when the speech is directed against Islam.

Speakers’ Corner may be in the news again this weekend. Sunday, March 18th, Tommy Robinson and other Dissident Right activists plan a rally there, again in support of free speech.

it would not be at all surprising if the British authorities found some way to forestall this Sunday gathering, quite possibly by just arresting all the dissidents.

Perhaps they’ll commit them to mental hospitals, as the old Soviet Union used to do with theirs. I hope I’m not giving them any ideas here.

You can be sure at any rate that if the event isn’t shut down in advance somehow, the Bobbies will be there in force to protect Britain’s state religion—Islam.

It’s not just the street cops, either. Britain’s immigration officers are also fully invested in defending Islam against any criticism. Or rather—I’m straining to be fair here—are fully invested in trying to prevent the Muslim riots and terrorism they know would result if Britain’s legacy population were to be allowed to vent their feelings about Muslim supremacy.

Last Friday, March 9, American Dissident Right activist Brittany Pettibone and her Austrian boyfriend Martin Sellner arrived at an airport near London to meet with Tommy Robinson and join him at this Sunday’s event on Speakers’ Corner. British immigration officers detained them for two days, then deported them.[ Why 3 far-right activists were refused entry to the UK, BBC, March 14, 2018]

Monday this week, March 10, a Canadian Dissident Rightist, Lauren Southern, also arrived in Britain. Same deal: Detention, interrogation, deportation.

A nice ironic touch here was that during the course of Ms. Southern’s interrogation she was asked whether she was a Christian extremist. This, by law-enforcement officials of a nation which has Christianity as its state religion, and whose head of state is also head of the state church and Defender of the Faith.

You can’t make this stuff up.

Brittany Pettibone tweeted an image of the letter given to her by British immigration as they booted her out, her “Notice of refusal of leave to enter.”

It is plain that the letter was composed by someone with limited English-language skills:

Furthermore, [comma] Your [capital “y”] boyfriend have [not “has”] in his possession the Leaflets [capital “l”] with scenarios regarding possible violence at his speech.

Sample:

I believe that your planned activities … are likely to insight tensions …

If you have passed through British immigration recently you will know that the officials dealing with you do not much resemble Michael Caine or Helen Mirren. They are much more likely to resemble Idi Amin or Indira Gandhi.

My feelings about those incidents are somewhat mixed. I strongly support the right of any country to refuse entry to anyone, for any reason. I wish this country, the U.S.A., would refuse entry to a whole lot more people than it does.

The trouble is, of course, that the Pettibones, Sellners, and Southerns—mild-mannered middle-class white Americans, Austrians, and Canadians who seek to stop the demographic transformation of their countries—these are the only people the Brits turn away at their airports.

While immigration officials were spending several man-days interrogating these three, unknown hundreds of parasites and lunatics from the most benighted hell-holes of the Third World were being waved in to Britain with cheery smiles, given public housing, welfare benefits, and healthcare.

You’re a committed Christian? Sorry, no entry. You trained with ISIS? Enjoy your stay! Here, take these welfare vouchers!

Hence the case of Ahmed Hassan, 18, from Iraq. Young Ahmed sneaked into Britain hidden in a truck that brought him through the Channel Tunnel from France. British immigration officers intercepted him. Ahmed told the immigration officers he had trained with ISIS.

Let me just repeat that: He told the immigration officers he had trained with ISIS.

But Ahmed was not refused entry. Instead, he was given free accommodation, first in a charity shelter, then in a pleasant middle-class foster home. [Betrayed by the ‘shy and polite’ boy they took into their home: Iraqi asylum seeker, 18, is found guilty of trying to blow up 93 Parsons Green commuters with bomb built with his foster parents’ Tupperware while pair were on holiday, Daily Mail, March 16, 2018] He was sent to school, at British taxpayer expense of course. His teachers reported him telling them it was his duty as a Muslim to hate Britain.

Today, Friday, March 16, 2018, Ahmed was convicted of making a bomb and trying to detonate it in a London subway train last Fall. Fortunately, the thing didn’t explode properly; but it still left 51 subway passengers with serious burns.

Let me just repeat one more time: He told the immigration officers he had trained with ISIS.

Enoch Powell got it right: “Whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.”

2010-12-24dl[1]John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. pyrrhus says:

    Ukistan is finished. The odious traitor Theresa May, the Media, and the rest of the establishment, including the Royals, have sold out the country. Brexit either will not happen or it will be crippled by May, the negotiations being a complete charade.

  2. Daniel H says:

    May God bless Tommy Robinson. Just a working glass bloke, looking around for a little help from his social and mercenary betters, but they are nowhere in sight, so he, and a few brave others, have to do it, raise the alarm, mount the defense, by themselves. A true patriot. Does the UK merit him? Don’t know, but his posterity, whatever form it will take, will note his work and honor him.

  3. Dan Hayes says:

    This essay’s vdare incarnation is incomplete. Read more leads to “404 Not Found”.

    • Replies: @El'geherg
    , @Peter Brimelow
  4. The time for talking is over in Britain. Do or die.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @DH13
  5. El Dato says:

    built with his foster parents’ Tupperware while pair were on holiday

    A new take on Tupperware party!

    #MeTelford

  6. Realist says:
    @pyrrhus

    The responsibility belongs to the English people for allowing it to happen. They elected the people in power. Poetic justice I’d say…..and coming to America.

    • Replies: @pyrrhus
    , @bob klinck
    , @Bronson
  7. eirikvarg says:

    Tommy Robinson is not one to turn the other cheek when attacked, as this video clip shows.

  8. Nexus321 says:

    Islam and the people that follow that 7th century cult are profoundly degenerate. I avoid them totally.

    • Replies: @Truth
  9. dearieme says:

    I sometimes wonder whether the current invasion of Britain will end up bearing a resemblance to the last great population-changing invasion, by Germans and Gaels in the Dark Ages. If so something of British culture might hang on in Wales and Scotland.

    In the Dark Ages some British culture also managed to survive among British émigrés in Brittany and, to a lesser extent, Galicia. But the British who now leave to live in rural France, or in Spain, are old; no children means no survival of culture.

    And anyway, the prospects for France don’t look too good, do they? Though I suppose that at some stage the French might rally to defend their nation. The Swedes look doomed. Perhaps the Germans too? Is there anywhere to go? Uruguay?

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    , @Wally
  10. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Incredible, as Derb has asked, ‘what’s the matter with white people?’. Derb, now you have me self conscious of my punctuation.

  11. Oh, they’re just trying to assimilate. They know the quality in Britain traditionally pounds rectal fistulas into any charming tyke in sight. You can’t fault them for being aspirational, they want to be true Britons.

  12. Randal says:

    I’ve argued for a long time that freedom of speech is the main active front in the leftist assault on liberty in modern times, and suppressing offences against “political correctness” is the schwerpunkt. primarily aimed at suppressing criticism or disapproval or outrages against homos, blacks/browns, jews and islam.

    It’s shocking that the government can get away with suppressing political dissent so obviously in the case of Tommy Robinson and the Americans excluded from the country, but no more shocking than the fact that a woman is currently being tried for uploading a song to the internet that is offensive to jewish lobbyists:

    Filleted, grilled, emotionally battered, but still undefeated.

    We cannot object to the process in just the area we dislike it, and ignore the precedents and practices being established in other areas which will ultimately be used against us. That is why the minority of jews who are awake to the problems of mass immigration need to wake up and get a grip on their own lobby groups that are pushing the Chabloz prosecution. The Chabloz precedent, if they succeed in convicting, will be used against those arguing against immigration and the islamification of our society.

    This is hardly anything new – it’s just the old argument that the liberals used to pretend to believe in before they got to wear the jackboots themselves: “I might hate what you say, but I will defend your right to say it in order that I might have the freedom to say what you hate to hear”.

    Of course, liberals turned out mostly to be liars and hypocrites, as most of todays leftist apparatchiks enforcing politically correct restrictions on freedom of speech grew up as proto-SJW types declaring their belief in freedom of speech on that very basis. But that doesn’t invalidate the position. It’s the position that underlies the US 1st Amendment, which is currently, day by day, being proven as superior to Britain’s failed protections of speech liberty.

    I grew up and spent my early adulthood as a patriotic Englishman who felt implicitly that Britain’s informal system was better than the US’s rigid written constitution. Over the past few decades, as we have watched entire ranges of political and cultural expression being systematically suppressed and criminalised, by leftist mass immigration zealots enabled by big business money wanting to undercut working class wages and bargaining power, and by minority lobby groups seeking to gain and wield power, that position has been proved to have been laughably naïve.

    Britain urgently, desperately needs a First Amendment. Sadly, though, it is too late, because any such legislation would be drafted and interpreted by the kind of people who wrote the ridiculous and almost entirely useless European Convention on Human Rights pretence at protecting freedom of speech:

    1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. ……
    2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary

    More of a censor’s charter than any protection of liberty.

    What hope is there? Very little, but what there is probably rests with the likes of Tommy Robinson and Alison Chabloz – the victims and the protestors against this modern closing of the doors of democracy.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  13. Wasn’t the Rock against Racism concert held at Hyde Park in 1978?…The Clash were on fire that day.

    I have this theory that (((Bernie Rhodes))) created The Clash to marginalize Skinhead Punk Rock Bands such as Screwdriver….

    I just checked Mick Jones’ twitter feed….it’s a goddam endless stream of sports entertainment enthusiasm for the NBA…NFL….NBL….NHL….kept strolling down….couldn’t find a goddam tweet about rock and roll…

    From shitstain Theresa May’s point of view:let ‘em have free speech….a direct road to US-WE TRAITORS HANGING FROM FUCKING STREET LIGHTS!!!!….I believe this to be her….or its….motivation..

    Rest In Peace Joe Strummer’s brother…and Ian Stuart Donaldson…..

  14. It is plain that the letter was composed by someone with limited English-language skills:

    Hey, that’s not even all. In the first sentence “day” should be “days” and for most English-writers, Englishmen in particular, “reasons” should be “reason“. The last one may is one that this writer, along with many Americans wouldn’t pay much attention to, but proper English would have this wording with the singular form of “reason”. I wouldn’t expect more on this one from some poor immigrant in immigration.

    How stupid is all this, anyway?! Having immigrants in the customs/immigration department (doesn’t Canada have one as the head of the organization?) is like having foreign soldiers working in the Department of War Defense. Excuse me, that’s Defence* (just trying to make Mr. Derbyshire feel at home here.)

    Oh, and “I believe that your boyfriend have in his possession …” It’s Idiocracy - I thought I was going to miss it by 450 years or so … alas, no!

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    * In America, the De-fence Department is the one that has created the open borders. If Trump quits reneging on his promises, the next Blue-team run government will create a Dewall Department

  15. Rich says:

    Where is the British Military in all this? Are they really going to allow their nation to be destroyed? Will no one stand up for this once great nation?

    • Replies: @DH13
    , @annamaria
    , @Chick Gandil
  16. I believe that your boyfriend have in his possession

    Most likely the author is a speaker of West Indian English, where this would be considered to be informal but correct, and the normal usage in spoken English.

    Some of the other errors could be editing mistakes. Often immigration officers are working at 5 a.m. when they might not be mentally at their best.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    No sympathy for the Brits.

    1) If they weren’t so intent on interfering in so many other people countries, you wouldn’t see so many 3rd worlders in your country.

    2) A lot of the child molesters in the UK are white. Yes, the browns have also molested a lot of kids but let’s not pretend this isn’t also an Anglo problem.

    3) There are tons of Brits who go to other countries as sex tourists and molest kids is SE Asia so again no sympathy to the Brita.

    4) If the British see their lower classes as less than human and ok to molest, than the main problem is with the Brita and not the browns.

  18. pyrrhus says:

    The Islamic Police State formerly known as the UK is on its last legs as a so called democracy. May is obviously a very stupid thug fronting for the Globalists.

  19. pyrrhus says:
    @Realist

    True up to a point. But who controls the candidate selection. And who controls the Media?

    • Replies: @Realist
  20. I’ve got a few more things to say on this, so I’ll break ‘em up. This is the most serious one, I’d say.

    People, disrespect the reasonable- (not Reason-magazine-) Libertarians and Constitutionalists at your peril! Look at the sick ideas and policies in (many of) our Mother country and weep. Even with the illustrious history of enlightened government, starting with the Magna Carta, or before, the common people of the formerly UK don’t have a leg to stand on.

    The English never had the disdain for BIG GOV that our American founders had, and even > 240 years later, it still matters. Some of the attitudes have been passed down all through those many generations. The rest was written on a document that was well-respected arguably until 50 to 25 years ago (yes, some would go back to 165 years to the tyrant Lincoln) called the US Constitution, with it’s extremely important Bill of Rights – Amendments I through X.

    I’m not saying that lots of the Bill of Rights has been upheld as of late, but the thing is, American have something to point to. The English have not. Yes, Americans will have to start doing more than pointing, but that was the subject of Mr. Derbyshire’s previous post and the comments thereunder.

  21. On the lighter side, it’s not like most Americans (I am one) follow the BBC, so the only knowledge of Speaker’s Corner many of us have is from the great guitarist* Mark Knofler of Dire Straits, per:

    And I go down to Speaker’s Corner I’m thunderstruck.
    They got free speech, tourists, police in trucks.
    Two men say they’re Jesus one of them must be wrong.

    Listen to all the lyrics, though… they wrote some good songs back then. If you want the best of Knofler’s lead guitar, listen to Telegraph Road off of this same album, Love over Gold.

    England is not even close to the country it was when Mark Knofler wrote those lyrics. It’ is the “sick man of Europe”, but then France, Germany, the low countries, and Sweden are close behind, having fornicated with the same STD-laden whores, I guess….

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    * I’d put him in the top 5 rock guitarists of all time, leaving 3 to be argued over. Yes, of course Jerry would be #1, why would you even ask? That’s starting an iSteve type thread here though – do we want to go down that road? Sure!

  22. @Anonymous

    There is only one relevant question in the ongoing…Muslim…Hindu…Sikh…Jamaican…African…colonization of England and it is this:Is it in the interests of the Native English to tolerate it any longer?….If the Native English no longer consent to it…in fact it was forced upon them, therefore they never consented to it in the first place….the Native English should-will revolt against it, and throw every darkie out of England…..And if India and Pakistan don’t like it…..then England should fucking nuke India and Pakistan…..This should be considered as an option….

    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
    , @Anon
  23. I advocate helicopter rides for the abusers and all police officials who turned a blind eye.

  24. @War for Blair Mountain

    The Sikhs, to their credit, know Muslims well and refuse to put up with their BS.

  25. @Achmed E. Newman

    I’d put him in the top 5 rock guitarists of all time, leaving 3 to be argued over. Yes, of course Jerry would be #1, why would you even ask? That’s starting an iSteve type thread here though – do we want to go down that road?

    The other spots would have to be reserved for Clapton, Hendrix and The Three Kings, B(lues) B(oy), Albert, and Freddie can share the last spot, though I like Robert Cray. End of discussion.

    Sorry, senor Santana.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Kyle
  26. jamie b. says:

    Is ‘furthermore’ not normally followed by a comma in British English?

    • Replies: @Ann K.
    , @Macon Richardson
  27. Truth says:
    @Nexus321

    While this may or not be true, the offenders in this story that Derb has obscured with (most likely) willfull half-truths has nothing to do with Muslims.

    London is the child abuse capital of the world, and has been for some time,with the rest of England closely behind, although Toronto and Sydney are making up lost time quickly.

    The offenders in this story are very white, jolly old Brits. Like Mr. Derbyshire himself. from the royals all the way down to the street-sweepers. You see, it seems that buggering one’s children, neices, nephews and young pupils, is as British as Bangers and Mash.

    The difference between the Rotherdam thing, and the white-Brit’s thing though, is that unlike with the Muzzies, the white-Brits don’t have nearly as much a penchant for girls. They tend to prefer a little more homo action.

    My proof? Well, the UK is looking at decriminalizing child pornography because it is such a unitive national influence, like the Rugby Union I suppose..

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/03/04/top-uk-child-protection-cop-wants-to-decriminalize-watching-child-porn/

    http://tennesseewatchman.com/2017/12/uk-police-official-says-looking-child-pornography-decriminalized/

  28. @Truth

    You are demanding that English Men behave like faggot CUCKS…and tolerate the mass MOHAMMADAN gang rape of English School Girls….

    Well, Native English Men are under no obligation to do this….Their overriding moral obligation is to shut Pakistani Muslim Immigration down to 0…and to boot Pakistani Muslim “ Brits” out of-OFF OF NATIVE BORN ENGLISH LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE!!!!…followed by a mass thermonuclear strike on Pakistan……

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Macon Richardson
  29. @Fidelios Automata

    The Sikhs are waging demographic race war against the Native Born English…..Native Born Welsh…Native Born Scotts….and Native Born Northern Irish…

    The Sikhs have their own LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE…in the Toilets of The Punjab in Northern India…

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  30. Daniel H says:
    @dearieme

    >>I sometimes wonder whether the current invasion of Britain will end up bearing a resemblance to the last great population-changing invasion, by Germans and Gaels in the Dark Ages.

    I think that Muslims are now a permanent presence in the heart of Western Europe, a presence that will grow over the next several decades. They will never go back voluntarily. Most will never assimilate to their host cultures. Native Europeans will not go away either, of course. There will be violence and separation and permanent no-go zones, for both sides. Autocratic authoritarian regimes will be installed in many, maybe all, Western European states to deal with this event. Leftists and Cucks will justifiably be blamed for this mess and they will be removed from the levers of power, by force if necessary. Eventually Muslims will be hemmed in. Muslim inhabited areas will resemble statelets, as we know them. Peace, of a sort, will be achieved. All of this will have been so unnecessary. But, despite all, what a great time to be alive. I envy the young.

  31. Daniel H says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    >>Most likely the author is a speaker of West Indian English, where this would be considered to be informal but correct, and the normal usage in spoken English.

    I guess that we are already at the stage where Rasta-man gibberish is held in higher esteem than BBC standard English.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  32. El Dato says:
    @Truth

    has nothing to do with Muslims.

    No, absolutely not.

    My proof? Well, the UK is looking at decriminalizing child pornography because it is such a unitive national influence, like the Rugby Union I suppose..

    Ridiculous bullshit … Anyone who believes that this could happen in the UK which is going full steam into societal control territory is a few beer short of a sixpack.

    Stick your proof where the soon doesn’t shine. Doing that is probably criminalized in the UK though, so don’t do this if you are writing from Immigro-area in the London ‘burbs.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1569272/Man-who-had-sex-with-bicycle-sentenced.html

    • Replies: @Truth
  33. Daniel H says:

    In honor of Tommy Robinson’s free speech demonstration today.

    The Beginnings, Rudyard Kipling

    It was not part of their blood,
    It came to them very late
    With long arrears to make good,
    When the English began to hate.

    They were not easily moved,
    They were icy-willing to wait
    Till every count should be proved,
    Ere the English began to hate.

    Their voices were even and low,
    Their eyes were level and straight.
    There was neither sign nor show,
    When the English began to hate.

    It was not preached to the crowd,
    It was not taught by the State.
    No man spoke it aloud,
    When the English began to hate.

    It was not suddenly bred,
    It will not swiftly abate,
    Through the chill years ahead,
    When Time shall count from the date
    That the English began to hate.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  34. @Truth

    I agree with this. The bigger scandal is British social breakdown. Soft, dysfunctional societies are easy pickings.

    • Agree: Truth
  35. Truth says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    You are demanding that English Men behave like faggot CUCKS…and tolerate the mass MOHAMMADAN gang rape of English School Girls….

    Well no, not exactly, but they could start by ceasing to bugger their nephews. That would be a step in the right direction.

    The reason that these so called English Men were so cavalier to their girls being sex toys for the muzzies is actually quite simple. These gents do not like girls, they like BOYS. now if a story were published that the Mohammedans were sexually abusing their SONS, belive me, they would magically transform back into King Richard’s executive guard overnight!

  36. 40 years.

    That means that this systematic abuse was going on during Margret Thatcher’s time in power.

    Thatcher conservatism: tax cuts for George Soros, war with Argentina, and Pakistani rape gangs.

    • Replies: @martin2
    , @Pericles
  37. @Truth

    The vast majority of English Men didn’t go to private boarding schools where buggery was rampant….

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Thomm
  38. @Truth

    All of the stats I’ve ever seen say that Negros are far more likely to be homo than Englishmen.

    And riddled with STDs.

    • Replies: @Truth
  39. martin2 says:
    @John Gruskos

    It is longer than that. I know a woman raped by a Pakistani in the late 1960′s. He was part of a grooming gang. This was in London.

  40. Realist says:
    @pyrrhus

    The media and candidate selection are secondary to the prime problem which is the insouciance of the voting public. The electorate is responsible for their choices. The Western world has become shallow and stupid….look at the shit they watch on TV. And that is only one of their trivial actions.

  41. I’ve had Nigeria emails with a better grasp of the English language than that Notice of Refusal.

  42. Daniel H says:

    Oh yeah, in celebration of St. Patrick’s day I give a tip of the hat and shout out to Tommy Robinson and Pat Condell.

    Who would have ever thought that in the 21st century 2 of England’s strongest and proudest patriots would be Irishman. Even Derb will have to (not grudgingly, I suppose) give a salute and shout out to these strong, brave and patriotic men. Slainte.

    And gentlemen in England now a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day

    Screw the OxBridge class.

    • Replies: @Bubba
  43. Bubba says:
    @Daniel H

    Well said and can you imagine today some ponce like Prince Charles having the fortitude of Henry V? The OxBridge class and their globalist allies will soon get their comeuppance.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  44. Truth says:
    @El Dato

    Stick your proof where the soon doesn’t shine.

    Bout says it all.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  45. Truth says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    I guess they are making up for lost time.

    I didn’t say a vast majority. I said a ridiculously high number.

    If the guardian reports 20,000, put a zero behind it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/29/estimated-20000-british-men-interested-in-sexually-abusing-children-police-chief-says

    The whole Muslim grooming thing is merely a distraction away from high-level kikemasons.

    http://time.com/2974381/england-land-of-royals-tea-and-horrific-pedophilia-coverups/

  46. Truth says:
    @Bruford or White

    I’m sure there have been a veritable cornucopia of studies on just this comparison.

    But as I said, the G’days and Canucks are closing quickly.

    https://bbsradio.com/cgi-bin/webbbs/webbbs_config.pl?md=read;id=37471

    http://www.rense.com/general81/rxk.htm

  47. @Truth

    “The offenders in this story are very white, jolly old Brits. Like Mr. Derbyshire himself. from the royals all the way down to the street-sweepers. You see, it seems that buggering one’s children, neices, nephews and young pupils, is as British as Bangers and Mash. “

    If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge in Wakanda to sell you.

  48. Although I sympathize with the disgust felt by the author & most commentators, its worth pointing out that the UK authorities probably just dont want to deal with all the violent shenanigans that would occur if the discussed persons were to get up & speak in public: the UK version of antifa would instantly show up & cause a riot which would inevitably be blamed on the speakers.
    This is NOT to justify the actions of the UK authorities: the deliberate destruction of freedom of speech in the UK (& the West generally) is not only a disgrace but a symptom of Civic degeneracy. (The actual ideas of the potential speakers probably wouldn’t concern the authorities at all IF there were to be no violent response: however, the PC crowd have no respect for such fundamental values as freedom of speech, justice or rational debate).
    I should add: I dont know what the potential speakers had to say in public. I do not agree with intentional inciting to violence: if you know what you will say will set people “off” the your freedom of speech is open to question.

  49. DH13 says:
    @Rich

    They are cucks for muh democracy. Same as in the US.

  50. Pericles says:
    @Truth

    The wisdom of the school to prison sex pipeline of Wakanda.

    • Replies: @Truth
  51. Pericles says:
    @Daniel H

    BBC don launch Pidgin service

    E don tay wey we don dey hear di gist. E dey happen? E no go happen? If e happen, how e go be? Well, e don happen today.

    BBC don launch new one wey be BBC News Pidgin Service.

    https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-41004878

    • LOL: Daniel H
  52. Pericles says:
    @John Gruskos

    Harold Wilson (1964-1970), Edward Heath (1970-1974), James Callaghan (1974-1979), Margaret Thatcher (1979-1990), John Major (1990-1997), Tony Blair (1997-2007), Gordon Brown (2007-2010), David Cameron (2010-2016), Theresa May (2016-).

  53. @animalogic

    … if you know what you will say will set people “off” the your freedom of speech is open to question.

    Well, you’re a part of the problem then. It doesn’t matter who get’s “set off” by what you say. Incitement to riot is very specific – it’d be words like “you all on the left, take the parliament, you guys in the back there, use your bats on the cops and some of those protesters, everyone else follow me, we’re gonna smash some cars!” That’s incitement to riot, get it?

    By your standard, free speech is worthless. You may want to give an Enoch Powell type speech against the immigration invasion, animallogic. What if lots of 3rd world invaders and their white British cntrl-left supporters don’t like hearing it? You may set them off, so your speech is open to question, in-it govner? In fact, just as in Charlottesville, Virginia last summer, or at many of the Trump rallies in 2016, they may show up just to get set off, as a strategy.

    Nope, I don’t buy that at all.

    (I am not arguing against your point that the British police would prevent speakers from speaking due to avoiding violence, but that’s cowardly and wrong.)

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  54. El'geherg says: • Website
    @Dan Hayes

    VDare has been under attack by hackers all weekend, up and down intermittently which is the reason for the 404 errors.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  55. “It doesn’t matter who get’s “set off” by what you say. Incitement to riot is very specific – it’d be words like “you all on the left, take the parliament, you guys in the back there, use your bats on the cops and some of those protesters, everyone else follow me, we’re gonna smash some cars!” That’s incitement to riot, get it?”
    What ? An incitement to violence (not riot) is something along the lines of ” use your bats on the cops” ? Oh very subtle. Your freedom of speech is grand, aint it bruv ? Wide enough to plow the Queen Mary through.
    You dont buy it? No, I shouldn’t think so.
    “Oh not me off-ee-sir, I did not call dem black cunts, cunts, I just reckened day was degenerate monkeys oo should be chucked in der sea — & , fuck me day started chucking chairs & shit, way acting out like, oo could beveev it off-ee-sir? Prooves me point dow, dem are fucking monkeys, wight ?”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  56. @Jonathan Mason

    It’s all good stuff, but I forgot to mention Duane Allman. He should also be right on up there on the list.

    Duane and Dicky Betts:

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
    • Replies: @NotBob
    , @thor47
  57. KenH says:

    I’m totally speechless. I will say that white Britons who aren’t insane are well within their rights to hunt down these Pakistani Muslim savages and impose their own brand of justice on them and their families who in some cases have aided and abetted them.

    If the Brits were a healthy people there would be an open ended pogrom against Pakistani Muslims for what they’ve done and are doing to the innocent white girls in Britain. Western concepts of law and justice are no longer satisfactory to maintain order or serve as a deterrent to third world animals and the detritus from the Muslim world simply scoffs at them anyway since they were created by kafirs.

    Then to make matters worse Cuck Island allows 400 ISIS savages back in the nation but refuses entry to three white people who’ve never committed any crime or harmed anyone and whose only offense is not hating themselves and their nations. From what I’ve been told by a couple of British ex pats who occasionally return home for visits most immigration officials at airports are black African, Hindu, Sikh or Muslim these days.

    Putin would be doing Britain a favor by putting it out of its misery with a nuclear strike. That’s the best we can hope for since the British people are dying a slow death and are being assisted to suicide by their own government.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Talha
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    , @SMK
  58. Truth says:
    @KenH

    I’m totally speechless. I will say that white Britons who aren’t insane are well within their rights to hunt down these Pakistani Muslim savages and impose their own brand of justice on them and their families who in some cases have aided and abetted them.

    Yes, and again, that would keep the underage children having sex with whom they traditionally have, for centuries, older, upper middle-class, white Brits.

    There is something to be said for tradition.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-thatchers-government-covered-up-a-vip-pedophile-ring

    • Replies: @KenH
  59. @Realist

    The responsibility ultimately does inhere in the population, but, to be empathetic, they have been hornswaggled by the deception that their democratic processes are something other than a snare for the ‘common man’. Moreover, the majority of people have been compromised because they have unthinkingly acquiesced in the idiotic premises that economics is about maximizing work and exporting as much of your real assets to other countries as you possibly can. These are concepts, inevitably facilitating social control, that have been concocted by bankers and implanted globally by an indoctrinated socialist intelligentsia.

    • Replies: @Realist
  60. Daniel H says:
    @animalogic

    >>Although I sympathize with the disgust felt by the author & most commentators, its worth pointing out that the UK authorities probably just dont want to deal with all the violent shenanigans that would occur if the discussed persons were to get up & speak in public: the UK version of antifa would instantly show up & cause a riot which would inevitably be blamed on the speakers.<<

    If you wish to make a comment, add some relevant information. What you allege is precisely what Tommy Robinson alleges in his video of his (attempted) speech last week. He puts the blame squarely on the English authorities for cowing in the face of anticipated muslim/leftist violence. The government's responsibility is not to cow before the mob but to stand up and protect democratic principles, free speech being the foremost.

    Furthermore, free speech is NEVER open to question.

  61. @Achmed E. Newman

    Sorry, animallogic, if that came off kind of rude this morning. We just should be careful, in my opinion, as to how we define things, or the cntrl-left will take it and run with it, per my examples. I’m no lawyer, but to me “incitement” should be very specific words exhorting violence right now and in a specified manner. Otherwise this can, will, and has been used against “us” on the streets.

  62. fnn says:

    Why is it that you don’t see much of a crude, low-brow Chav-type culture among the working classes on the Continent ? Of course you have it in Russia, but that’s pretty far east.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    , @syonredux
  63. @animalogic

    I didn’t see this one due to no “Reply to” tag.

    My answer to this comment is as follows:

    “uhhhhh … wha …. ”

    Wait, what, are you a lawyer? Maybe that’s why I did not comprehend that last one.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  64. Daniel H says:
    @fnn

    >>Why is it that you don’t see much of a crude, low-brow Chav-type culture among the working classes on the Continent ? Of course you have it in Russia, but that’s pretty far east.<<

    Hmmm. Rock and Roll?

  65. Realist says:
    @bob klinck

    I agree with all you say. But the primary responsibility belongs to the electorate. A majority of Western people have an insouciant attitude toward the world around them. They would rather watch shit programs on TV than become informed on important issues. The West has become more shallow and stupid than ever.
    After all the lies and corruption our governments have foisted on us, for decades, many of us are ready to believe anything we are told about ‘the nasties’.

  66. KenH says:
    @Truth

    Native Brit pedophiles should hang as well. Zero tolerance. Jimmy Savile and others are accused of victimizing around 600 kids over a 40 year period while the Pakistani rape gangs have now victimized around 2500 in the same time frame with most occurring in Telford and Rotherham. Some sources even believe 2500 is a conservative estimate and that the number could be much higher.

    Paki Muslims are only 3-4% of the population and victimizing far more British children than native perverts while being more cruel and abusive towards their victims resulting in the deaths of some. This will only worsen as their population increases and they gain political control over the towns and regions in which they live.

    A pogrom is required to help adjust their attitudes and to show them that Allah will not favor them if they victimize the gracious natives they live among, but who they loathe and resent. The Brits will need to resort to medieval measures since they’re dealing with a medieval people.

    • Replies: @Anon
  67. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    I resent that slur on the Middle Ages. Flamands in medieval London weren’t running sex rings.

  68. I realise it runs against the narrative of this thread, but I’m currently residing in Chelmsford in Essex and the England of the BBC and Unz is a long way from here.

    I haven’t recieved any clear reasons as to why this should be so, but just half an hour from the City of London (Liverpool Street) is a city with about 130,000 people that appears to be pretty much completely white British. Wiki has it at 96% white, and it is not unusual to walk along the high street and see hundreds of white faces and nothing else.

    I was in a packed pub yesterday watching the rugby: 100% white. Locals don’t seem to want to talk about or notice it when I point out they’re effectively living in an ethno-state.

    It’s a very unremarkable place meriting one sentence in Lonely Planet’s guide to England, and it seems people want to keep it that way. There’s a nice county cricket ground, a shiny John Lewis store, a small cathedral, a crappy new university, and the locals get hugely pissed and fall over every Saturday night.

    What the rest of England might look like without its new troubled inhabitants I guess.

  69. grapesoda says:
    @Truth

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-43385049

    They look white to you, you racist lying demonic piece of trash?

    Truth – “The Sun is blue, the sky is yellow.”

  70. Truth says:

    They look white to you, you racist lying demonic piece of trash?

    Well yes, Old Sport, Jimmy Saville and the Operation Hydrant spotlighted in the video I posted bunch look white to me. Although I must admit my eyes ain’t what they used to be…

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2014/06/jimmy-savile-sex-abuse-investigation

    Here is Peter Haymon, ex-director of MI-6

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/02/thatcher-peter-hayman-named-paedophile-archives

    Here’s Cyril Smith, ex Parlimenter:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/09/mi5-knew-prosecutors-lied-press-about-cyril-smith-inquiry-told-rochdale

    And there are thousands more.

    But what do Saville, Smith and Haymon have in common?

    They’re all dead!

    Yup Ol’ Sport, they were “outed after a long and comfortable life had expired. They did serve up some real-live towelheads for mouth-breathing simpletons such as yourself to fake-get angry over. So have at it, Son.

    Oh, and by the way I resent you calling me”racist.”

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Reg Cæsar
  71. Musashi says:

    The Whites behind this must be exterminated.

  72. @Daniel H

    “The government’s responsibility is not to cow before the mob but to stand up and protect democratic principles, free speech being the foremost.”
    Actually, I think the government’s first obligation is to maintain the peace & good governance of the UK.
    And, incidentally, free speech IS open to question: rights imply duties. Thus, the common counter-example — to shout “fire” in a crowded theater. (Or perhaps teachers who slant their social studies topic to put a positive spin on the validity of organised homosexual culture. )
    I am strongly in favour of free speech rights, however that “right” is not a licence to say anything, anytime, anywhere.

  73. @Achmed E. Newman

    No, I’m a former cartoonist for MAD magazine.

  74. @Cowboy Shaw

    During most of the 1990s I lived in a middle-sized English city, with a fairly high presence of people from the Indian subcontinent. One day I decided to go to a smaller town nearby which had a ten-pin bowling alley. The smaller town was more prosperous than the larger, but what was especially noticeable was that there were no visible ethnic minority people. There were one or two Americans about, as a US military base was not far away, and I wonder if their presence was the reason the ten-pin bowling alley existed. But even the corner shops were run by indigenous English people.

  75. I find the fact that people like Savile and Smith seemed immune from serious investigation during their lifetimes at least as disturbing as anything emerging from Telford or Rotherham, and both were lily-white. They were also rather prominent in politics and society.

    • Replies: @Truth
  76. @Cowboy Shaw

    Places like Chelmsford are sometimes seen as “white flight” destinations, with many living there having moved from places like London’s East End. It is relatively prosperous, and the kind of place many Britons move to once they can afford to, not necessarily because there are “too many Asians” etc. The stereotypical “Essex man” is a “bit of a lad”, the stereotypical “Essex woman” is blonde, a little bit promiscuous and not too bright. Both are generally thought to be intrinsically English.

  77. Palm Oil says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    “I realise it runs against the narrative of this thread, but I’m currently residing in Chelmsford in Essex and the England of the BBC and Unz is a long way from here… ”

    And your point is?

    My point is that Chelmsford won’t stay like that for long.

  78. Thers an old film and book on this kind of satanic stuff, I used to think things like this were made up. I believe it now. How the hell do the biggest weirdo psychopaths get into power? We let them.
    The film is pretty rare but you can find it on torrent. Interesting stuff..

    Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom (1975)
    In World War II Italy, four fascist libertines round up nine adolescent boys and girls and subject them to one hundred and twenty days of physical, mental and sexual torture.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073650/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_120_Days_of_Sodom

    The 120 Days of Sodom, or the School of Libertinage[1] (Les 120 Journées de Sodome ou l’école du libertinage) is a novel by the French writer and nobleman Donatien Alphonse François, Marquis de Sade. Described as both pornographic[2] and erotic,[3] it was written in 1785.[4] It tells the story of four wealthy male libertines who resolve to experience the ultimate sexual gratification in orgies. To do this, they seal themselves away for four months in an inaccessible castle in the heart of the Black Forest[5], with a harem of 36 victims, mostly male and female teenagers, and engage four female brothel keepers to tell the stories of their lives and adventures. The women’s narratives form an inspiration for the sexual abuse and torture of the victims, which gradually mounts in intensity and ends in their slaughter.

  79. Art Deco says:
    @Bubba

    Well said and can you imagine today some ponce like Prince Charles having the fortitude of Henry V?

    He’s a Navy veteran, as was his father and one of his brothers. Both sons were in the Army. Prince Philip and Prince Harry are both combat veterans and Prince Andrew was a Navy pilot, not the safest of occupations. How does that compare to what you’d see in an ordinary British family?

  80. Art Deco says:

    This is excusable. There was no such place as Telford until 1968. That was when bureaucratic managerialism in Britain was in the ascendant. Ancient towns and villages were being grouped together in strange new entities under stone-faced administrators filled with a conviction of their own managerial competence.

    You live on Long Island. Do you think all that tract development was there 80 years ago, when parts of Queens were still farm country?

    It was the end of old England. Mass Third World immigration was a key component of the new order. British people who dared to raise their voices against what was happening—people like Enoch Powell—were insulted, abused, and hounded out of public life.

    Powell was ranting about Caribbean immigration. West Indians are in number a small fraction of the population of Pakistan, they speak English off the boat, and they’re largely protestant. They also intermarry with white British. The proportion of Britan’s population which consists of West Indians hasn’t changed much in a generation. His speech was largely paranoid tripe.

  81. Art Deco says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/18/telford-police-failed-act-shahzad-khan-made-2000-night-selling-grooming-victims-rape-house/

    The impression I’m getting from these reports is of police services who were indolent about just about everything.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
  82. Truth says:
    @Uebersetzer

    Yes, according to everyone, this was known, and it was not aired until they are dead.

    The implication is quite obvious:

    “We (wealthy upper-class Brits) will do what we want to do, we (politicians, the media, entertainers, judges, the police) are all in cahoots. We will mock you with this when we see fit, and there is not a damn thing you will do about it. No be a good little boy, and go back to criticizing this muds which that we conveniently sacrificed for you , we will still allow you to do, for now.”

  83. Randal says:

    Just to add to the points made here, here is how political prisoners are treated in England now:

    The leader of far-Right group Britain First has been been attacked in prison just a week after he was jailed for abusing Muslims – leaving him with a broken nose.

    Paul Golding, 36, was beaten up by two inmates at HMP Elmley on the Isle of Sheppey in Kent.

    Police are investigating the incident, which took place on Wednesday. The far-Right activist’s nose was said to have been broken in the attack.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5508693/Britain-leader-Paul-Golding-nose-broken-prison.html

    The authorities will claim: “it’s not our fault if some of the people he offended got to him. We can’t protect him all the time”, with the smug and cynical subtext that he deserved what he got anyway. But it is their responsibility to protect prisoners in their custody from violence, and political prisoners liable to be subjected to this kind of attack should be segregated from their thuggish political enemies, and also from “ordinary decent criminals” as the Northern Irish police used to refer to them in relation to sectarian prisoners.

    If Irish terrorists can de facto be treated as political prisoners when they’ve been involved in murdering people, as they were from 1972-76 and in practice albeit not admitted as such after the hunger strikes, certainly people who’ve committed minor breaches of the peace can and should be so treated when there is a political element in their convictions, as in this case.

    I will make clear that I do not support Britain First – to my mind their support of Israel is naïve, counterproductive and ultimately self-defeating. Nor do I approve of their behaviour in the cases that got them in prison. But it is clear that they would never have been imprisoned for such minor offences if they had not been subject to the political element of antiracism dogma. As such, and bearing in mind the increasing tendency to lock people up for mere speech, there needs to be a serious addressing of this issue of political prisoner status for those jailed for offences against political correctness.

  84. When the men of a country don’t even stand up for the lives of their own daughters for fear of being called racist or “emboldening the right”, you can turn out the lights.

  85. @pyrrhus

    Well my boys,is it not time to go across the Irish sea,and attend the university of South Armagh .Perhaps a course in Irish /English cooperation would be in order. They have a varied curriculum on “Throwing off the British Yoke”and it would seem that the only way you will save your island is to establish a British Republican Army (provisional) and take back your island from the Brits/for the Brits, because the I.R.A. will always be around, but the B.R.A. hasn’t even started.It only took the Irish 800 years to get the Brits out, but you don’t have that much time UP THE B.R.A !!

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  86. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    What part of the English “upper class” is secretly turned on by White girls being groomed for abuse by Brown skinned Muslims?

    I am serious about this.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  87. foobc says:

    Indian (ie the “Indo” in Indo-European) is the opposite of Paki (Muslim).

    Third World Indo-Europeans (more in absolute numbers in the UK than Pakis) have vanishingly low rates of crime and have not played any role in any of this ever.

    Neither have Indians bombed London tubes or blow up London Buses or countless other incidents of terror.

    Neither have they created/harbored Bin Laden, mowed down countless civilians in countless terror attacks against India.

    The Times square bomber and the nightclub bomber and the california bombers, were all Paki.

    It is not a third world/immigrant issue. It is solely a Paki issue.

    It is weird why commentators like Derbyshire gloss over this fact and carry on about “Asians”. It really is very weird.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Anon
    , @ploni almoni
  88. The London Tube bombings, including the one on the bus, were false flag events carried out by deep state operatives in the “security services”.

    • Replies: @Kolo
  89. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Randal

    What hope is there? Very little, but what there is probably rests with the likes of Tommy Robinson and Alison Chabloz – the victims and the protestors against this modern closing of the doors of democracy.

    How much media attention do people like Tommy Robinson get in the UK? Does the average person even know that their freedoms have been taken away from them? Do they even know they can be thrown in gaol for uttering politically incorrect thoughts?

    My suspicion is that most people in western “democracies” just keep telling themselves that “if you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear from the police.” Most people, even those with conservative leanings, still live in a Dixon of Dock Green fantasy world where the police and the “justice” system are concerned.

    And how much screen time did the freedom of speech demo at Speaker’s Corner get on the BBC?

    • Replies: @Randal
  90. Don’t see what this has to do with Keynesian-era bureaucrats from the 50s and 60s. That sounds like a libertarian cheap shot. They may have put up some ugly buildings and committed the odd town planning blunder, but that has little to with post-modern political correctness. The same PC apologists who make excuses for minorities also attack the modernist bureaucrats of previous eras.

    Political correctness didn’t really become a big issue in Britain until the early 1980s – about the time the liberal left took control of the cultural sphere, and the free market liberal right took control of the economy.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  91. Thomm says:
    @foobc

    It is weird why commentators like Derbyshire gloss over this fact and carry on about “Asians”. It really is very weird.

    It is not weird once you realize that race nationalism is a left-wing ideology.

    What do leftists do? Cover for Islam while using words like ‘Asian’ and ‘brown’.

    These morons call themselves ‘alt-right’, but they actually are ‘paleo-left’.

    Race nationalism is left-wing.

    Add to that the fact that race-nationalists tend to be 70-IQ loser males who either can’t get women, or were gay to begin with.

    That is why you won’t get intelligence discourse here, even though the trafficking of innocent girls is a horrible crime to be sure.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
  92. Thomm says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    The vast majority of English Men didn’t go to private boarding schools where buggery was rampant….

    But the vast majority of WN wiggers practice it nonetheless. This is due to White Trashionalists being the waste matter that the successful whites generate for the purpose of expulsion from the gene pool.

    Remember, you are a 70-IQ wigger trying to discuss a 110-IQ subject. You are way out of your league.

    • Troll: Randal
  93. Wally says:
    @pyrrhus

    Get real everyone, the entire state of affairs is enabled by the fake claims of the ‘holocaust’. Face it. Anyone resisting such insanity is labeled a ‘neo-Nazi’, as if the fake ’6M Jews & 5M others’ were factual.

    Below is where free speech on the impossible ‘holocaust’ storyline is illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes.
    An obvious admission that the storyline doesn’t stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.

    https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=1858

    The odious Jews First left has heretofore made it an Orwellian ‘hate crime’ to resist their policies.
    An all too convenient way to stay in power and a principal reason for contriving the absurd storyline in the first place.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

  94. Wally says:
    @dearieme

    said:
    “I sometimes wonder whether the current invasion of Britain will end up bearing a resemblance to the last great population-changing invasion, by Germans and Gaels in the Dark Ages. If so something of British culture might hang on in Wales and Scotland.”

    Nonsense.

    Nothing like what is happening now happened then.
    You’re talking apples & oranges.

    http://www.codoh.com

  95. The article should have been about the end of the European cultures.
    Though E European countries refuse Muslim immigrants, should the EU not collapse, after these immigrants have been naturalised they are EU citizens, and can settle anywhere.
    Already in 2010, long before the mass immigration, Sarrazin wrote his book ‘Germany destroys itself’.
    Sarrazin, economist, at the time was on the Board of the Bundesbank, he also was, or had been, Senator of Berlin.
    Immediately after the publication of his book he was fired.
    Thilo Sarrazin, ‘Deutschland schafft sich ab, Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen’, München 2010

    A more or less similar book about France is
    Eric Zemmour, ‘Le Suicide Francais’, 2014 Paris

    And by a Dutch professor
    Paul Scheffer, ‘Die Eingewanderten, Toleranz in einer grensenlosen Welt, München 2008 (Het land van aankomst, 2007)

  96. @Art Deco

    In 1953, when the empire was all but gone, GB tried to let GB remain somehow the leading country of what no longer existed.
    So they proclaimed that anyone from the former colonies was welcome in Small Britain.
    Within two weeks or so a ship with a few hundred immigrant from the Caribbean area arrived.
    Great shock.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  97. Rogue says:
    @Art Deco

    Utter rubbish what you have to say about Powell.

    He was addressing the immigration realities of his time. The ethnic immigration back then was overwhelmingly from the Caribbean.

    In the 90′s he was asked for an updated view of ethnic immigration to Britain. He considered it to be an utter disaster – clearly encompassing all the various ethnic groups that have entered the UK – not just those from the Caribbean.

    When I lived in the UK I had a number of Black and Asian friends and acquaintances, so I’m certainly not anti – “diversity” on reactionary grounds, but rather because diversity is truly a great thing to have … in the world; just not in the same country.

    BTW, every legitimate opinion poll on ethnic immigration in the UK, released via mainstream TV news (BBC etc.) that I saw over a 20 year period, had a consistent 60% plus majority saying: “WE DON’T WANT ANY MORE OF IT!”

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  98. This brings us to, in my opinion, a truly difficult question: how come that not a single British eminent figure has publicly spoken about it?

    I can understand politicians; also, the police.

    But- what could prevent someone like late Steven Hawking, or any famous scientist, writer, philosopher, artist, public figure …to denounce this?

    Why are they all silent?

    • Replies: @mark3383
  99. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    They must have had many a laugh with each other, over the champagne and truffles, at how easy it had been.

    That’s the only thing the masses allow to do regarding them — least one wants to confront their anger, spite, and refusal to co-operate.
    “Laugh at our back over champagne and truffles,” or we’ll see to it you regret you didn’t is the unconscious programmed behaviour.

    It was the end of old England. Mass Third World immigration was a key component of the new order. British people who dared to raise their voices against what was happening—people like Enoch Powell—were insulted, abused, and hounded out of public life.

    This has always worked this way, and the reason will always be one: that the “people” happily help winning elites to shun ostracize defame and “unperson” everyone else that is at the same time not one of them and not one of the winning elites.

    They act as a “sieve”, actively supporting the removal from respectable society and positions of influence whomever among the intellectual classes refuses to lead them by deception (or is less apt than the winners at doing it).

  100. dfordoom says: • Website
    @unpc downunder

    Political correctness didn’t really become a big issue in Britain until the early 1980s – about the time the liberal left took control of the cultural sphere, and the free market liberal right took control of the economy.

    You can see the rot setting in much earlier in British TV and movies, even as early as the 60s. Although at that stage the liberal-left was not yet entirely dominant in British culture. In the U.S. the liberal-left was already in complete control culturally by the early 60s.

    Don’t see what this has to do with Keynesian-era bureaucrats from the 50s and 60s. That sounds like a libertarian cheap shot. They may have put up some ugly buildings and committed the odd town planning blunder, but that has little to with post-modern political correctness.

    I agree. Those bureaucrats were often leftists but they were Old School leftists. In their own way they genuinely thought they were helping the poor and making Britain a better country. They may have been wrong but they weren’t evil.

  101. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    There is only one relevant question in the ongoing…Muslim…Hindu…Sikh…Jamaican…African…colonization of England and it is this:Is it in the interests of the Native English to tolerate it any longer?

    But when UK were colonizing all these 3rd worlders violently, killing their men & raping their women & small girls, where are these dissidents like you to protest for their basic brown or black rights?

    Kamma is fair after all, one reaped what one’s sowed. The evil of the British empire is striking back. Same for US, France, and those colonist European countries.

    Its just too strange that these developed West countries with their most intelligent democratic elected leaders will simply welcome in all these immigrants & rapefugees, top up with generous welcome gifts.

    Indeed its marvellous, the whites are insane beyond comprehension, the kammic result of their past atrocities.

    • Replies: @Wally
  102. Randal says:
    @dfordoom

    How much media attention do people like Tommy Robinson get in the UK?……And how much screen time did the freedom of speech demo at Speaker’s Corner get on the BBC?

    Difficult for me to answer these questions because I don’t watch the ordinary tv coverage. I’ve still got a tv but we stopped using it a decade or more ago.

    My impression from talking to people is that most would still go with the “if you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear from the police” line, and most still think only nasty racists get in trouble with the “hate speech” control laws. Robinson is mostly portrayed as a racist thug.

    There’s a lot of consciousness raising to do, for certain.

  103. @Thomm

    Don’t you originate from a country with over a billion pieces of brown trash? Why not go there and work to improve your people?

    • Replies: @Thomm
  104. It does seem like time for a violent revolt. And not just in the UK.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  105. @Beefcake the Mighty

    Jews can’t be cucks in the US or N. America. They’re the ones doing the cucking. You’ll notice there aren’t very many jews in israel advocating for replacement-level immigration by non-jews.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  106. @Truth

    You seemed, judging by your comments, such a reasonable chap and suddenly, out of the blue, something must’ve clicked in that chicken head of yours and you became an autistic moron… dejavu ahahaha

    Your proof is moronic. Your cultural relativism is retarded.

    Because for retards such as yourself circumcision is the same as FGM.

    Because for you, utter moron, a Muslim favoring child marriage and non Muslim child prostitution because his prophet married a 6 years old and fucked her at 9 and because infidels are animals is the same as few disgusting pervs wanting to wank at kids.

    Because like you, idiotic morons believe that a few disgusting pervs being caught wanking at kids pictures is comparable and should have the same prison sentences as child rapists, child abusers and child killers.

    Because to top it of, 90% of White Brits are against what that moronic cop is postulating and see it as morally wrong, exactly the same as child marriages, unlike a very significant chunk of your beloved Pakis and Bangladeshis, you virtue signaling shithead.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Truth
    , @RadicalCenter
  107. Joe Hide says:

    Good article. Keep publishing.
    I just finished a series of YouTube, internet, etc. Information Gatherings on the 1555 Seige on Christian defenders of Belgrade by a huge and vastly better equipped, trained, and resourced muslim army. The Christians beat the pants off the battle hardened muslem soldiers. The Christians loudly voiced thousands of times until victory, the name of Jesus Christ. All over Europe Christians prayed daily for victory. It was one of the most lopsided and unexpected wins in history.
    No wonder the elitists want the faith in Christ replaced by pew warming congregations completely unfamiliar with the words and meanings of the teachings of Christ, and also unfamiliar with science, mathematics, technology, logic, reason, and strategic and tactical thinking.

  108. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @foobc

    You are right mostly, Indians in the West didn’t commit all these crimes to the West, but they are mostly well behaved in the West only.

    In their own mother land, India, they are infamously known for committing violent rape on tourists, their own women and babies, even dog in one reported case. They even have a penchant love to shove rods into their victims virginal for extra climax satisfaction.

    And they are still ravaging the lands they invaded like Sikkim, 7 sisters, Nagaland, South Tibets, raping their women for last 40 years.

    So its naturally whites/non Indians see all Indians as pathologic rapists, which majority are, from Indians own frightening reports & experiences. Its a hard time for the few good ones like you. Try go back to help change India into a better safer country, India needs lot of good Indians to improve that unbearable shithole. Their women suffering are so much worst than whites.

  109. Jake says:

    WASP culture was born of a Judaizing heresy. Mr. Archetype WASP himself, Oliver Cromwell, allied with Jews, taking Jewish money and granting Jews right to re-enter England, with certain special rights and privileges, precisely so he could war to destroy non-WASP cultures and peoples native to the British Isles.

    WASP culture from its birth has waged war of all types – including cultural genocide – on the majority of British Isles natives. So the Brit WASP Elites of the past 40-50 years being OK with their new pet browns and blacks sexually abusing white British children is no surprise to me.

    Them be the fruits of Judaizing heresy.

    John Derbyshire loves Cromwell and Anglo-Saxon Puritans and the entire history of the British Empire stomping non-WASP white cultures toward death. Derbyshire also is something of a philo-Semite, exactly as Cromwell would have wanted.

  110. TheOldOne says:

    Achmed:

    Mark Knopfler, noted alt-right leader and believing socialist.

  111. Even abused children now serve as a pretext to attack the EU! Brexit is obviously turning into high farce! The third and fourth paragraphs are rather amusing. The third paragraph is childish and the fourth paragraph is disinformation. The claim is that Britain’s entry into the EU brought about “mass Third World immigration”. That, of course is completely false. Britain was already full of immigrants from the former empire long before the UK joined the EU, as witnessed by the fact that Enoch Powell made his famous speech on 20 April 1968. If “mass Third World immigration” was already a problem in 1968, then it can have nothing to do with British accession to the EU! It should be noted in passing that right down to the present day, the Member States have never delegated any powers to the EU institutions in regard to immigration. They’re far too jealous of their sovereignty to do that! It should also be noted that Mr Derbyshire makes no claim that any person from another EU Member State has ever been involved in a child abuse case in the UK. Thus, attempts to link the EU to third world immigration is just an American anti-EU propaganda scam.
    Further down, Mr Derbyshire torpedoes another Brexiteer lie. He tells us that a certain Martin Sellner, an Austrian national, was refused entry to the UK and, indeed, waxes indignant about that. As an EU citizen, Sellner would normally have been admitted to the UK but he was refused entry on the basis of EU law. The right of free movement postulates compliance with the laws of the Member States. Since the British authorities had reason to believe that Sellner’s purpose in coming to the UK was to infringe British hate speech laws, the British authorities were entitled to refuse him entry under EU law. Thus, as Brexit itself proves, indeed, the argument that EU Member States somehow “lose their sovereignty” or “lose control of their borders” is fabrication.
    Finally, Mr Derbyshire reminds us that the Queen is the head of the Church of England. The traditional constitutional rule is therefore that a Catholic cannot be prime minister inasmuch as the PM has to advise the Queen on church matters and, in fact, no Catholic has held a high office of state since Henry VIII broke with the Pope in 1534. That’s why Tony Blair waited until he had left Downing Street to convert. Why therefore are people who claim to be “conservative” drooling about Jacob Rees Mogg, a Catholic, becoming prime minister? Such an event would be a huge constitutional revolution, far greater than British membership of the EU, and would surely be “the end of old England”! Are the Brexiteers really that ignorant of their own country’s history?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  112. mark3383 says:

    the English have always been decent folks run by evil fucks. These crimes are minor compared to their historical ones and could be considered righteous payback for their support of psychopaths like Churchill. They started WW2 and English pilots happily firebombed their distant cousins all over Germany roasting alive hundreds of thousands pretty blond women and children The main tragedy of WW2 was that any British soldier was allowed to leave Dunkirk alive. Just die England the world will be better off.

  113. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Correa

    Because to top it of, 90% of White Brits are against what that moronic cop is postulating and see it as morally wrong, exactly the same as child marriages, unlike a very significant chunk of your beloved Pakis and Bangladeshis, you virtue signaling shithead.

    I remember reading in UK news saying that “moronic cop” was explaining according to their investigation, overwhelming more than half Briton men are pedophiles watching child porno, so legalizing it is the only realistic way than putting all in jail.

    Those high profile politicians, celebrities & clergymen been openly investigated for child raping are probably tip of iceberg. Majority are covered up.

    The Muslims legalized paedophile with child marriage so that they don’t going around to prey on others daughters and limit to 4, but the Britons trying to take a moral high ground are doing it just as rampant, but preying on many others daughters.

    Muslims seem to be a much better lot in this sense.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Truth
  114. mark3383 says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “But- what could prevent someone like late Steven Hawking, or any famous scientist, writer, philosopher, artist, public figure …to denounce this?”

    You think Stephen Hawking would have been allowed to be famous for his proofless and useless cosmic theories if he wasn’t a happy participant in the child raping global elite?

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  115. Che Guava says:
    @Truth

    You are pathetic, like so many blacks, naming yourself for an eternal verity, then proceeding to lie your arse off. As I was saying before, when I was an admin. on a U.S.A. site, we also had a black jerk calling himself ‘Truth’ and spouting bullshit.

    I know you are not the same person, same spirit, only much worse. You are really a jerk.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @SunBakedSuburb
  116. @mark3383

    You think Stephen Hawking would have been allowed to be famous for his proofless and useless cosmic theories if he wasn’t a happy participant in the child raping global elite?

    ? How could he have done this, technically? Besides, he was a rather vocal critic of Israel, which destroys most conspiracy theories about elites, Jews & homos.

    • Replies: @Wally
  117. Che Guava says:

    I like and agree with proofless and useless, but am gathering that Hawking *did* contribute something earlier in his career. Have never been sure what, even though I was doing well at physics to third year, at a time when universities were still real (strict tests, no calculators, let alone ‘smart’ phones, real experiments and studies).

    If anyone can provide me with a capsule description of Hawking’s contribution to physics, or a link to such a description, I will be grateful.

  118. His black hole theories are very useful, help in understanding the universe.
    Would we understand what goes on in the center of a black hole, it could change our lives completely.

    • Replies: @mark3383
    , @TT
  119. @Anon

    The Muslim child marriage does or did not differ from European child marriage.
    It had nothing to do with sex until the girl was at an age she could bear children.
    A male heir was most important.
    These marriages were business and diplomatic agreements.
    The men involved in child marriages had enough opportunity for sex outside marriage.

    • Replies: @Talha
  120. @mark3383

    They did not happily bomb.
    They had to complete twenty flights, with a chance of being killed of around 5% hardly any of them survived.
    What they themselves thought about the bombing, not much is known about it.
    In any case, they could not refuse to do it, and probably believed war propaganda, about the ‘Huns’.

  121. @Thomm

    Practically all British leaders went to public schools, that are not at all public, very expensive.
    Anyone who talked or wrote about public school time describes a horrible time, full of bullying.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Jonathan Mason
  122. Wally says:
    @Anon

    “But when UK were colonizing all these 3rd worlders violently, killing their men & raping their women & small girls, where are these dissidents like you to protest for their basic brown or black rights?”

    Marxist BS. You have no proof for what you allege.

    The various European empires were the best thing that happened to those sh__hole countries.

    • Replies: @Anon
  123. Truth says:
    @Anon

    The Muslims legalized paedophile with child marriage so that they don’t going around to prey on others daughters and limit to 4, but the Britons trying to take a moral high ground are doing it just as rampant, but preying on many others daughters.

    Your post was perfect, with one very small correction: It’s more often “sons” than “daughters.” About the Telford Muslim thing, you have to ask yourself, “why didn’t the daddies care where their 12 year old daughters were at 9pm?”

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Reg Cæsar
  124. Truth says:
    @Che Guava

    What exactly did I do wrong, Buddy? Please articulate.

    You see, from my perspective, all I did was post articles from British media, which I one would assume know more about the goings on of British daily life than I do.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  125. Wally says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “he was a rather vocal critic of Israel, which destroys most conspiracy theories about elites, Jews & homos.”

    No it doesn’t, you merely say / wish it does.

    Your lumping in “homos” is an intended distraction.

    http://www.codoh.com

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  126. Truth says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Yes, my limited understanding is that “public” an “private” vis-a-vis, schools, are basically reversed from our generally accepted definitions in the states.

  127. @jilles dykstra

    Practically all British leaders went to public schools, that are not at all public, very expensive.
    Anyone who talked or wrote about public school time describes a horrible time, full of bullying.

    “Public” schools in England developed historically as an alternative to private tutoring for the upper classes and remain fee-paying schools open to anyone who can pay the fees, which are high.

    Tom Brown’s Schooldays, written in the 1840′s presents a pretty daunting view of the bullying at the time, but the schools today are mostly co-ed with a less Spartan ethos.

    In England, what are called public schools in the US are called “state” schools. These schools, like the National Health Service, are free at point of service.

    Actually you have to wonder why public schools in the US are not called state schools.

  128. Art Deco says:
    @jilles dykstra

    E.R. Braithewaite lived in Britain after he was discharged from the Army in 1945. Caribbean settlement in Britain didn’t begin in 1953.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  129. Art Deco says:
    @Rogue

    He was addressing the immigration realities of his time. The ethnic immigration back then was overwhelmingly from the Caribbean.

    And he completely misunderstood its significance.

    • Replies: @Rogue
  130. @Daniel H

    They’d better start soon, because the population of actual English, Welsh, Scottish, and Irish people in the UK continues to decrease in size and increase in average age.

  131. annamaria says:
    @Rich

    The British military has been castrated by NATO and smothered by the new UK Sec of Def Gavin Williamson (Diaper Boy), an expert in selling pots and ceramic countertops. The puppet masters took great care to prevent any principled, intelligent and patriotic citizens from occupying the positions of power in the UK. Corbin is an abnormality (he is an honest man) and this is why he is under the vicious attacks from Israel-firsters such as Claire Perry, Boris Johnson, Theresa May and the whole Tory mob bought by the Friends of Israel.
    The miserable Albion is under the Jewish heel (and the zionized US stick).
    Gavin Williamson (the new UK Sec of Def): “‘We’ll always be Israel’s friend’ – UK defence secretary vows to stand by the ally.” https://www.rt.com/uk/417728-israel-gavin-williamson-defense/
    Gavin’s main expertise: “Williamson worked as managing director of fireplace manufacturer Elgin & Hall, a subsidiary of AGA (AGA Rangemaster Group Limited is a British manufacturer of range cookers, kitchen appliances, and interior furnishings), until 2004. He has also worked for a Staffordshire pottery firm.” — Zero military experience. Zero military education. https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Gavin_Williamson
    “Security chiefs have accused the Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson of leaking secret intelligence:” http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5321575/Security-chiefs-accuse-Defence-Secretary-leaking.html
    – The UK government is dominated by intellectual midgets, opportunists, and sleazy sycophants. They do not have time for the ordinary British citizens. The MPs first priority is to make the Friends of Israel happy.

  132. Thomm says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    Bzzzzzt!! Wrong again.

    My goal is to purge wiggers (like you) and blacks out of America. The top 80% of whites (like me) all know that WN wiggers like you are a subrace where the waste matter collects.

    Mother nature herself wants you to be flushed down the toilet of history, where you belong.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    , @res
  133. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    Marxist BS. You have no proof for what you allege.

    The various European empires were the best thing that happened to those sh__hole countries.

    Prove me otherwise.

    Name me those shitholes that your European empires gave them the best things to develop into a 1st world country, beside all those massacre, raping and exploitation? If you can’t, then you have proven Anglos are pathological liars & hypocrite, deserving what is happening now to US, UK & Europe that destroy by your own whites greed.

    Yougov has found over 40% of Anglos are still proud of their past imperialism colonial atrocity deeds. You are unrepentant shameless one.

    May be let me quote you some shitholes that your great empires have benevolently blessed.

    India world GDP% declined from 20+% to 4%, with entire industrial like textile destroyed, split into Hindu India vs Muslim PAK, left with over 40% illiteracy, poverty, …from a great civilization to a shithole.

    Australia aborigines were systematically slaughtered & deprived, they children got removed forcely, land stolen… they are still living in shitholes scattered among world best cities.

    Nz same.

    West Africa worst. Blacks were forced to become slaves exploited to fullest, traded like commodity. Their resources arecoverted and exploited. And they are left with wars, terrorists, poverty, a shithole.

    Singapore was a poor village unable to provide for itself, and had no reliable defense after British left. Even during Japanese invasion, surrendered British army kept all the weapons & ammunition, resulting in local volunteers couldn’t defend themselves. After WW2, it still try to shamelessly reclaim its colonial master status. Its LKY with his team of capable men change Singapore to today 1st world, the only one.

    Malaysia as above, except blessed with much resources.

    Myanmar/Burma was brutally invaded, and exploited till today still under subversion, embargo & threat with Rohingya crisis. Still a poor shithole.

    Indonesia was under Europeans brutal colonization, esp Holland Dutch & Portuguese in Timor. Million was slaughtered, deprived, and subverted till today. Pres Sukarno was couped by West, installing a corrupted puppet Suharto, which also overthrown after he past his useful time to West. Still a very poor & unstable corrupted shithole.

    Philippine, hypocrite US forcefully took over Spanish colonial, massacre half a million to suppress their independent desire. One of poorest, crime infested, Catholic controlled shithole today. US is still trying to subvert it, esp its Pres Duterte.

    Vietnam colonized by France, completely destroyed with US false flagged instigated war. Still a shithole trying to improve with China trade.

    Cambodia under France, still a poor shithole.

    Middle East… Africa…all are still shitholes ravaging with terrorists.

    Latin America are not much better.

    China was too huge to be colonized by your empires, but you evil one used opium wars to took lands like HK, Macau,… and pillage their wealth, destroyed them with opium. So opiods are now flooding West by your oen greedy drug lords, CIA.

    Indeed all free countries that your great European empires colonization, they have all become in perpetual poverty and continuously under your subversion till this day, becoming a shit hole.

    Blair & Bush don’t lies, they make Iraq prosperous. Obama, Sazorky, Cameron don’t lies, they make Libya prosperous. US UK France Nato are now making Syria more glorious with their moderate terrorists ISIS.

    With all such evil deeds done from your ancestors till now, what else do you want your God to praise & bless you?

  134. Talha says:
    @Truth

    Thanks for the links.

    You know what’s really interesting is what someone posted regarding how common working-class British women dressed at the turn of the last century:

    And it’s not just because of the cold; there are certainly some shot in chilly weather since the men are bundled up also, but in other shots, you can see clearly see children in the film wearing simple frocks or with rolled up sleeves.

    I would love for modern-day Muslim women to cover up like that! Too many of our young women are wearing tight clothing.

    Peace.

    Note: Apparently “photo-bombing” was a thing back in the day too!

    • Replies: @Karl
  135. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    Whether its sons or daughters, these abused children have grown up to also prey on others small children forming vicious cycle, or developed into some psychopathic abnormalities. And they are now the majority grown up Britons, leading in parliament.

    May be that could explain why their leaders are acting in such insane behavior, self destroying own prosperous country with absurd policies in last 40yrs, and a ultra Russophobe for self infliction when Brexit is already so destabilizing.

    I am not sure if homosexual or prey on small boys are British inclination. Most discovered crimes are raping of small girls by the old powerful ones, with police refused to prosecute. So are their clergymen long history of raping nuns, vulnerable believers & small children.

    But most Britons i encountered, were all decent good gentlemen & ladies. When i visited UK 10~20yrs ago, everywhere were whites, very cultured and nice that truly impressed me as one of best civilized & refined people in Europe. Now that it turns to such a terrible shit hole with endemic paedophiles is a very sad case.

    What has gone wrong in this once greatest empire? Retribution of its atrocities is only possible answer.

  136. @Thomm

    Your continual use of the word wigger in this context is bizarre; and, of course, I suspect you’re lying about being white-non-jewish.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  137. Talha says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The Muslim child marriage does or did not differ from European child marriage. It had nothing to do with sex until the girl was at an age she could bear children.

    Agreed – that was, of course, the pre-modern purpose of marriage. Depending on one’s definition of pedophilia, everyone had basically legalized it before the 1900s. Look at the various legal age of consent across European countries at the time:

    http://chnm.gmu.edu/cyh/case-studies/230?section=primarysources&source=24

    What’s surprising to me is that Turkey actually had an age restriction higher than many European countries and certainly the Anglo world.

    Actually most societies (including Muslim ones) really cared about puberty, as you point out, which was the marker for adulthood that was taken into consideration. As evidenced from Catholic law:
    “The marriageable age is fourteen full years in males and twelve full years in females, under penalty of nullity (unless natural puberty supplies the want of years). Marriages void because of the absence of legal or natural puberty are held as sponsalia , inducing thereby impediment of “public decorum” (Cap. 14, tit. de despon. impub., X, 4, 2).”

    https://www.catholic.org/encyclopedia/view.php?id=300

    “In Medieval and early modern European societies, the age of marriage remained low, with documented cases of brides as young as seven years, although marriages were typically not consummated until the girl reached puberty (Bullough 2004). Shakespeare’s Juliet was just 13, and there is no hint in the play that this was considered to be exceptional. ”
    Internet Child Pornography: Causes, Investigation, and Prevention

    As Prof. Nigosian (Armenian Church Minister and historian of Islam) wrote:
    “It was not uncommon at one time for children to be married even before they reached puberty, though they were not permitted to cohabit until they were at least sexually mature.”
    Islam: Its History, Teaching, and Practices

    A male heir was most important. These marriages were business and diplomatic agreements.

    Agreed. And all of this makes sense frankly. In a world where the average lifespan could be very low:
    “The average life expectancy for a male child born in the UK between 1276 and 1300 was 31.3 years.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/241864.stm

    Why the hell would they set up a society so that you would marry women off at 15 or 18? It’s ludicrous – the average person would never see their own grandchildren!

    Nowadays practically every country has raised the age to some predefined minimum (though no one can seem to agree on what it is universally). And people should obey the laws of the land that they live in. If one looks at the phenomenon with a level head and an academic perspective, one realizes it has a lot more to do with the fact that the lives of human beings, their lifespans and social structures have changed drastically rather than our collective ancestors being a bunch of immoral savages.

    Peace.

    • Agree: Randal, dfordoom
  138. Not to be confused with Tom Robinson, who sang “Glad to Be Gay” all those years ago, then horrified the LGBTCBGB community by marrying a girl and having a child the old-fashioned way.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Robinson#Personal_life

  139. Tommy Robinson, Lauren Southern and others in that self-proclaimed “nationalist” vein are Zionist shills. See video below. Robinson is either a paid operative or a useful idiot used to create a block of easily controlled pawns with the primary objective of sustaining violent friction between Muslims and Christians. He is exactly a mirror reflection of the SJW’s on the extreme left of the fake political paradigm. These characters are manufactured, as written by Saul Alinsky, to lead astroturf organizations and to inject identity politics. These pawns receive funding from the usual suspects to distract attention away from the foreign control of Parliament, media, and education by a specific cultural Sabbatean/Frankist tribe. The result is what we have today. We are all stuck in a masonic-style controlled dialectic maintained by a group that is neither the monarchy nor the general public.

    • Agree: Jonathan Revusky
    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  140. @Anon

    You left out Obama’s defense of Uganda’s pederasts. (With whom, as with FDR and Stalin, he no doubt felt a close personal bond.) And similar creeps like Peter Tatchell.

    • Replies: @Anon
  141. Talha says:
    @KenH

    If the Brits were a healthy people there would be an open ended pogrom against Pakistani Muslims for what they’ve done and are doing to the innocent white girls in Britain. Western concepts of law and justice are no longer satisfactory to maintain order

    A suggestion…or two…consider it a “modest proposal”:
    1) Perhaps repeal some of the limp-wristed measures like jailing and what not and consider application of full-frontal Shariah law on the violators. Something akin to what Islam has for those that “spread mischief on the Earth” (like exile, cutting off hands/feet, execution or – the ever popular – crucifixion). Or if that won’t do because it’s too Muslim; there is always drawing and quartering.
    2) If punishing the guilty is just not enough and you’re going to promote full-pogrom – might as well go all the way and gang rape random Muslim women too; especially the young girls before you slit their throats – hell or even after – who’s counting during a pogrom, right? I mean, don’t waste perfectly good warm flesh. And they’re probably virgins too – no need to worry about contraception or diseases – those worries make a man go limp when he wants to be in business-mode. If you’re going to throw out “concepts of law and justice” why do it half-heartedly? Go big or go home – that’ll prove to the Muslims what you’re made of. Also take videos that can be uploaded on youtube so you can show the rest of the Muslim world you mean business when you mean business.

    Mind the roads though, they should have all the blood cleaned off of them prior to the next London Gay Pride Parade because, well, homosexuals are totally not going to march with that icky stuff in full view – they have standards!

    “Yes there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there’s still time to change the road you’re on…The piper’s calling you to join him”

    Peace.

  142. Thomm says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    Your continual use of the word wigger in this context is bizarre;

    It is not bizarre at all. White Trashionalists have more in common with blacks than with successful whites. I have elaborated on this elsewhere.

  143. @Truth

    Oh, and by the way I resent you calling me”racist.”

    I’ll back you on this. The word never really had any legitimacy.

  144. @Art Deco

    Caribbean settlement in Britain didn’t begin in 1953

    Nor did African. Shirley Bassey was born in Cardiff to a Nigerian father in 1938. And she was far from his first.

    Then there was Pablo Fanque, of circus fame…

  145. @Truth

    About the Telford Muslim thing, you have to ask yourself, “why didn’t the daddies care where their 12 year old daughters were at 9pm?”

    Straight outta Compton!

    • Replies: @Truth
  146. @Che Guava

    Truth, like Tiny Duck, is White. They maybe the same person. He is the kind of Clintonite-Obama worshipper that hates his fellow Whites. Especially the White working class.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Che Guava
  147. @Achmed E. Newman

    the great guitarist* Mark Kno[p]fler of Dire Straits

    A Hungarian Jew playing mock Negro rhythm music– yeah, that’s gonna go down real well on this forum.

  148. @Randal

    “How much media attention do people like Tommy Robinson get in the UK?……And how much screen time did the freedom of speech demo at Speaker’s Corner get on the BBC?”

    Difficult for me to answer these questions because I don’t watch the ordinary tv coverage. I’ve still got a tv but we stopped using it a decade or more ago.

    I don’t even live in England, but my sense of things is that somebody like this Tommy Robinson, in final analysis, receives a suspicious amount of mainstream media attention. I mean, just judging from the clips I’ve seen, guys like this are a dime a dozen in any pub, no? But this guy was on a national TV show called “Good Morning, Britain” and had some verbal clash with this Piers Morgan asshole, who also seems to be some sort of Intel agency asset.

    I’m not 100% sure of this, mind you, but probably 80-90% sure that Tommy Robinson is just a paid actor. If he is not a paid actor, then he’s some sort of useful idiot, then, just a kind of living cartoon character that is useful to whoever stages this kind of stuff. But probably he is an Intel agency asset. So the encounter with Piers Morgan on that show was probably Deep State agitprop, a scene with two paid actors.

    But, anyway, I looked at some various clips of this guy and there is something phony about him. He’s like some guy out of central casting playing the ignorant white racist thug. Or football hooligan type…

    On the other side of things, the radical imam preaching violent jihad against the West in some London mosque is also some sort of paid actor typically. That jihadist milieu, just like the far-right racist milieu of this Tommy Robinson character, these are what you could call patsy milieus.

    Freaks like this Tommy Robinson and the Jihadists on the other side are just, as I said in a previous essay, part of the show. They work for some deep State faction constructing some sort of synthetic pseudo-reality that has very little to do with current-day British society.

    Stateside, the thing in Charlottesville, just as one example, seems to just be Deep State theatre. There are videos of brawls between antifa and right-wingers on the street there and there is some analysis (or was, it’s probably taken down) that the fighting was fake fighting, you know, like in professional wrestling…

    People like Derbyshire talking about these kinds of freaks, paid actors probably, as if they were genuine dissidents — it’s really beyond pathetic. The first step to being a real dissident, IMHO, is unplugging from the Matrix and seeing through all this stuff.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Anonymous
  149. @KenH

    I’ve been saying since Rotherham it would be a sign of national good health if at least one or two of these monkeys weren’t found swinging from lampposts.

  150. syonredux says:
    @fnn

    Why is it that you don’t see much of a crude, low-brow Chav-type culture among the working classes on the Continent ?

    According to my French and German colleagues, there are lots of Chav-types in their countries.

  151. @Reg Cæsar

    I, for one, like Hungarians just fine ;)

  152. SMK says: • Website
    @KenH

    The governing-classes and ruling-elites of the UK, Western Europe, Canada, and the U.S. are evil and insane, but those who rule the UK are arguably the most evil and insane, suicidal and masochistic, with Germany, France, and Sweden not far beyond. And the primary reason for this lunacy is the denial of racial group differences, the delusion that race “beneath the skin” is an “artificial social construct” rather than an inherent and unalterable biological reality, and the transformation of equality and race-denial and “anti-racism” into a quasi-religion and fanatical totalitarian ideology that will ultimately destroy what is left of the historic white nations of Western Europe and North America.

    And the refusal to face and tell the truth about the nature of Islam and Muslims, especially males. Islam is a religion, obviously, not a race, but nearly all Muslim are nonwhite, and so the police in Telford, Rotherham, and other cities did nothing for decades to stop hundreds of English girls, some as young as 10 and 11, from being abducted, enslaved, drugged, raped, gang-raped, and tortured by gangs of Muslim savages, monsters, degenerates, and misogynists for fear of being vilified as “racist” and “Islamophobic” by the ruling-elites and governing-classes. Yes, race trumps feminism.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @dfordoom
    , @KenH
  153. @Jonathan Revusky

    You have no idea whether Tommy Robinson is an actor, nor do we. One can be a “real dissident” without believing that pretty much everyone in public life or public protest is a paid actor.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  154. @Talha

    Things are changing.
    Merkel’s battle cry was ‘ der Islam gehört zu Deutschland’, ‘Islam belongs to Germany’, nonsens, of course.
    Islam does not fit in with German society.
    Seehofer, hope I have the name right, new minister, said something like ‘the Islam is in Germany’.
    Merkel disagrees, with him.

    But in France something similar, Macron wants to change the Islam of French Muslims

    http://www.lejdd.fr/politique/macron-veut-poser-les-jalons-de-toute-lorganisation-de-lislam-de-france-3570797

    A hundred French intellectuals from right and left just raised their voice against whet they call ‘Islamic totalitarianism’.

    This looks like what the Dutch prof Paul Scheffer wrote already in 2007 ‘how long do we tolerate intolerance ?’.

    Paul Scheffer, ‘Die Eingewanderten, Toleranz in einer grensenlosen Welt, München 2008 (Het land van aankomst, 2007)

    • Replies: @Talha
  155. Talha says:
    @SMK

    By the way – this is an excellent read on the Alt-Right phenomenon:

    http://www.socialmatter.net/2018/03/19/matthew-rose-is-wrong-about-the-alt-right/

    Long, but well worth it.

    Peace.

  156. NotBob says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I must nominate Jeff Beck for inclusion on the list.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  157. Talha says:
    @jilles dykstra

    ‘Islam belongs to Germany’, nonsens, of course.

    Yes total nonsense. The question is; can Islam belong in Germany?

    If yes; carry on.

    If not; what do they propose to do?

    ‘Islamic totalitarianism’

    I’m against that too – scares the hell out of me. Those young, bearded fanatics are really something else – very difficult to engage or reason with.

    This looks like what the Dutch prof Paul Scheffer wrote already in 2007 ‘how long do we tolerate intolerance ?’.

    It is “Popper’s Paradox”. The thing is, there is already an intolerance abound in Europe; an intolerance for intolerance…n a downward spiral. Where she stops, nobody knows…

    Peace.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Dissident
  158. @RadicalCenter

    You have no idea whether Tommy Robinson is an actor, nor do we.

    Well, I specifically said I was not 100% sure. However, I would say that the safer baseline assumption is that he is some sort of actor. A phony.

    If you want to believe that this Tommy Robinson is a genuine dissident and his EDL is a genuine grass roots movement that emerged organically, that is your own business, but the best bet is that this is not the case.

    One can be a “real dissident” without believing that pretty much everyone in public life or public protest is a paid actor.

    Hmm…. Well, let me put it this way: regardless of what the truth about this guy actually is, if the possibility that this guy is not be what he is presenting himself as never even crossed your mind, that means that your understanding of the world in which you live is extremely deficient.

    As far as I can tell, it never crossed Derbyshire’s mind…

    • Replies: @Simon in London
  159. Truth says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Why are you guy mad at me for posting links from English newspapers. I really don’t understand this.

    • Replies: @Anon
  160. Truth says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    What do Brits do to celebrate Halloween?

    Pump-kin.

    • LOL: Talha
    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    , @Dissident
  161. This story of a young French woman imprisoned for months, tortured and murdered in an upper middle class part of London – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5521867/Boyzone-founders-ex-girlfriend-screamed-abuse-sobbing-nanny.html – by Arabs.

    For God’s sake, don’t let your daughter take an au pair/nanny job with Arabs!

  162. @Jonathan Revusky

    >>However, I would say that the safer baseline assumption is that he is some sort of actor. A phony.<<

    Surely it's much more likely that you are a phony, a paid agent or leftist radical seeking to weaken the dissident right?

    Realistically, you are probably just a crazy person. But it's certainly much much easier to assume a fake persona with Internet anonymity than IRL.

  163. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Randal

    My impression from talking to people is that most would still go with the “if you’ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear from the police” line, and most still think only nasty racists get in trouble with the “hate speech” control laws. Robinson is mostly portrayed as a racist thug.

    There’s a lot of consciousness raising to do, for certain.

    That’s what I suspected. It’s not quite as bad as that in Australia, but almost.

    That’s why I’m both saddened and amused by people who fondly imagine that a massive pushback is just around the corner, and that the ordinary decent folk are about to rise up against their globalist masters and the SJW thugs. Most ordinary decent folk have no understanding whatsoever of globalism and are in general firmly on the side of the globalist Establishment.

    The most radical thing they’ll do is vote for Brexit, but that was mostly about the perennial British dislike for Europeans. Even when they voted for Brexit they failed to understand that their real enemies were not in Brussels, they were in Westminster. And having voted for Brexit they proceeded to elect Theresa May as PM. Theresa May! A woman with a known track record of wanting to crush all manifestations of dissent. She’s like Hillary Clinton without the human warmth.

    Politics is downstream of culture and the culture is more firmly than ever in the control of the globalists.

    • Replies: @Randal
  164. I was going to say the exact same thing. Thanks for saving me the time, Simon.

  165. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Bill Jones

    It does seem like time for a violent revolt.

    Pure fantasy. The Silent Majority (which is now the Silent Minority) is too comatose even to understand that there’s a problem, much less rouse themselves to do anything about it. Most people don’t care. They really honestly don’t care. They will go on not caring until they themselves are personally affected, and even then most will still tamely go along.

    It’s human nature. People don’t revolt. Revolts only happen when they’re carefully planned and prepared by disciplined revolutionaries with capable leadership. On our side they’re aren’t any disciplined revolutionaries and there aren’t any capable leaders.

  166. @Truth

    My sister used to be an ADA in Atlanta. She told me that the amount of incest-rape that takes place in black homes is huge, and usually under-reported because the family is reluctant to press charges because Uncle da’Marcus already has two strikes and they don’t want him doing life simply for sticking his dong in little La Tonya. Just for fun, do a google search for “rape suspect” and note the predominance of black male suspects. Your lack of representation in STEM fields is inversely reflected in your proportion of sex offense statistics.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Truth
  167. @Simon in London

    It’s no big deal, Simon. I still remember how upset I was as a kid when somebody told me that Santa Claus didn’t exist.

    Still, I was just a kid…. I mean, for a grown man to get so infuriated when he’s told that some fake shit is fake… it’s pretty sad.

    By the way, do you believe that professional wrestling is real?

  168. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Michael Kenny

    Finally, Mr Derbyshire reminds us that the Queen is the head of the Church of England.

    Why therefore are people who claim to be “conservative” drooling about Jacob Rees Mogg, a Catholic, becoming prime minister? Such an event would be a huge constitutional revolution, far greater than British membership of the EU, and would surely be “the end of old England”!

    The Church of England is a post-Christian church. The Anglican hierarchy would welcome a non-Christian PM. They’d only be wary of Rees Mogg if they suspected that he actually believed in God.

  169. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    Just for fun, do a google search for “rape suspect” and note the predominance of black male suspects.

    I can tell that you’re upset that none of them have raped your ugly ass.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    , @Truth
  170. Randal says:
    @dfordoom

    Even when they voted for Brexit they failed to understand that their real enemies were not in Brussels, they were in Westminster.

    Well, in fairness both.

    But I do recall arguing at the time the referendum was won that, satisfying though it was emotionally (like the Trump victory) because of the way it stuck in the throat of all those most in need of getting something jammed in their throats, it was nevertheless too soon because Parliament was still completely unrepresentative of anti-EU opinion. It would have been better an electoral cycle or two down the line when we would have had some honest anti-EU representatives in Parliament.

    And indeed it has come to pass that the exit process has been a disastrous shambles, managed by people who hate the idea of meaningfully leaving the EU and who are in hock to people whose fortunes depend upon staying in the EU, in effect if not in name.

    And having voted for Brexit they proceeded to elect Theresa May as PM. Theresa May! A woman with a known track record of wanting to crush all manifestations of dissent. She’s like Hillary Clinton without the human warmth.

    Well in fairness it’s a bit like a US presidential election choice – the only ones with the slightest chance of winning are the appalling ones. May was probably a bit less appalling than Corbyn (bearing in mind all the SJW triumphalism a Corbyn win would have empowered).

    Granted people should have voted UKIP, but UKIP isn’t exactly the answer to our prayers, prostrate as it is before anti-racist, pro-homo political correctness, and it was in a shambolic state by then anyway because the referendum had stolen its primary raison d’etre.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  171. @Simon in London

    I’m pretty sure that JR uses his real name and has published (well worth reading IMHO) articles here and elsewhere under his own name. You and I are using internet anonymity. Pot, meet kettle.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  172. dfordoom says: • Website
    @SMK

    The governing-classes and ruling-elites of the UK, Western Europe, Canada, and the U.S. are evil and insane, but those who rule the UK are arguably the most evil and insane

    I agree with that.

    And the primary reason for this lunacy is the denial of racial group differences,

    But I disagree with this. The governing-classes and ruling-elites of the UK are motivated purely by class interest and class hatred. Bringing in non-white immigrants is a way to make life more miserable for the lower classes, and it’s a way to weaken, divide and demoralise the lower classes so that they will never be able to challenge the power of the elites.

    British history since the Reformation has been about maintaining the power of the ruling classes, and strangling any opposition at birth.

  173. @Anonymous

    Right. I’m a married man with children but thanks anyway. Now, did you do the google search? Black males are 12% of the population but I would wager that well over half of the US suspects that are being reported are black. You got something to hide, Da’Nonymous?

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  174. Karl says:
    @Anonymous

    17 Anonymous > There are tons of Brits who go to other countries as sex tourists

    they cause less disruption to the locals, than do mountaineering tourists do on Everest

    > and molest kids is SE Asia

    that was made dangerously illegal about 25 years ago in most parts of SE Asia. In Cambodia, it’s been dangerously legal for at least a decade now. The cops give bigger (and more reliable) rewards to the pimps for squealing on foreign paedophiles, than the paedos will pay for the kids.

    Try schtupping a young girl in Manila nowadays. You’ll find out.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  175. thor47 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    @Achmed E. Newman

    How can you mention the Allman Brothers and leave out Derek Trucks?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  176. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Randal

    Granted people should have voted UKIP, but UKIP isn’t exactly the answer to our prayers, prostrate as it is before anti-racist, pro-homo political correctness, and it was in a shambolic state by then anyway because the referendum had stolen its primary raison d’etre.

    That’s quite true. UKIP is a very poor alternative. But still better than Labour or the Tories.

    May was probably a bit less appalling than Corbyn (bearing in mind all the SJW triumphalism a Corbyn win would have empowered).

    That’s a valid point.

    The great danger is getting into the mindset of choosing the lesser of two evils. That always leads to disaster. If you’re offered the choice of having your country ravaged by Genghis Khan’s hordes or Attila the Hun’s hordes there’s not much point in agonising over which would be the lesser of two evils. The correct answer is, “I’d rather not have my country ravaged by either.” And the correct political choice between May and Corbyn would have to be Neither of the Above.

  177. @Anonymous

    Keep bringing in people who think like this, UK, which is most of them.

  178. mark3383 says:
    @jilles dykstra

    “His black hole theories are very useful, help in understanding the universe. Would we understand what goes on in the center of a black hole, it could change our lives completely.”

    well it will be a while before we can visit and find out.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/03/yvonne-lorenzo/the-black-hole-in-the-heart-of-stephen-hawking/

  179. Wally says:
    @Anon

    IOW, you do not have the proof I have requested and then just make up nonsense.
    No proof, no case.

    And those sh__tholes are so because of the very dumb people that inhabit them.
    Colonialism was their best shot.

    Simple stuff really.

    Bye now.

    • Replies: @Anon
  180. @Malcolm X-Lax

    This is true, but I don’t think Artie is a Jew, he’s a cantankerous concern troll, kind of like Jeb Bush with hemorrhoids.

  181. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    You libtards just can’t keep your horsesh*t straight- you people whine day in and day out that white men hate gays, and now turn around and call them gay.

    Considering that a third of black guys wind up in jail- and we know what goes on there, especially among blacks- I’d be much more worried about the guy on guy buggery among my own if I were a black troll.

  182. Karl says:
    @Talha

    140 Talha > I would love for modern-day Muslim women to cover up like that!

    Peshawar is available for your immediate settlement.

    > Too many of our young women are wearing tight clothing.

    they are the only ones who prevent all of Pakistan from being wiped out by polio. So don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

    Spain was de-jihadi’d yesterday

    Rakhine was just de-jihai’d today

    Jerusalem will be tomorrow, Talha…

    • Replies: @Talha
  183. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    Sounds like someone’s been hittin’ the funny cigarettes a bit too hard.

  184. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks, its such a long list impossible to list down all. There are always such imbecile like Wally still harbouring foolish thoughts that they are best choice for these shitholes they created. These people are a disgrace to all civilized Europeans.

  185. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    Yeah, Talha, what gives with that guy? KenH is pure savage for daring to suggest that Brits should be angry about 40 years of their children being raped, drugged, and tormented by a people who were extended a colossal hand of friendship and goodwill.

    • Replies: @Talha
  186. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    Truth is hard to swallow when its not glorious. You are prying open their long time dirty ass, peeling their carefully covered up wounds deep inside and then rubbed salts on it. But from their mild response, i am truly convinced Britons are indeed most cultured European. You(Truth) will be buried alive if its murkans, they hate truth.

    • Replies: @Truth
  187. Ann K. says: • Website
    @jamie b.

    Came here to ask the same thing!

  188. Talha says:
    @Karl

    Peshawar is available for your immediate settlement.

    As it is for you, let me know how the weather is when you get there. There’s also Tel Aviv.

    Jerusalem will be tomorrow, Talha…

    Yo – come getcha some boy! We like scrapping once in a while over holy places. Sure we’re out of sorts, but we’re getting our act back together; a brother came back from a Muslim conference in Ghana – the ulema are talking about the importance of Jerusalem all the way over there. As I asked someone else; we’re not simply going to hand it over to you…so, how many lives are you willing to put on the line to have sole sovereignty of that city? Yours, not Americans that you duped into fighting for you. Frankly Americans seem pretty sick and tired of ME adventures on your behalf.

    • Replies: @Karl
  189. Talha says:
    @Anonymous

    Anger = pogroms?

    Hey man, I suggested option 1, right? Which seems fairly reasonable to me, but if that’s not sufficient then go for 2 – but don’t be a pansy about it. You know what a pogrom is, right? Look if you’re willing to drag out an 70 year old Pakistani grandma (like my mom) and curb stomp her until her brains are all over your shoes, what’s the moral compunctions about raping a few little girls while your at it? Look if you think God won’t take you into account for the brain goring then, you definitely got a free pass with a little rape on the side. Don’t worry, just tell Him you were really, really upset – He won’t mind, right?

    I mean if you’re queasy about them screaming and stuff then just cut out their tongues first or do it right after you slit their throats and the body is still warm. Plus, you’ll get plenty more lads to join up for the festivities if you offer that as a bonus. Look at Daesh, they got plenty of recruits by offering free Yazidi slaves. You could learn a little something from them about pogroms – maybe ask the guys they are letting back in.

    I’m only offering suggestions to help you be you – don’t tase me, bro.

  190. Truth says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    That may be the case, and I suspect that you have already “known” it. Now, according to the articles that I have posted, you know that the amount of incest-rape that takes place in wealthy white homes is huge, and undereported also.

    Congratulations.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
  191. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    LOL, I wouldn’t assume.

  192. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    That’s not a graceful Briton should behave, trying to call someone stating a truth as BS, when challenge, run away like small girl.

    If the Britons cannot look at Truth straight in the eyes and rise up to make a change, all your little daughters & sons will continue to be victimized, and whole race degenerate into hopeless paedophile elites or psychopath weaklings. And the empire not only sunset, but sink into deep shit hole, flooded by unwanted immigrants & rapefugees, and muslimized.

  193. res says:
    @Thomm

    The top 80% of whites (like me)

    Unintentional truth? “top 80%” implies an IQ of 87. What you were probably trying for was something like “80th percentile” or “top 20%”.

    It is entertaining to watch someone as dim as you are castigating everyone here for being low IQ.

    The funny thing about your persona is that if you really are white (I am skeptical) then you are to Indians as wiggers are to Blacks.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  194. Truth says:
    @Anon

    As long as they can jeer and throw things at the tube when Goldstein and the Oceanites come on, they will forget about me.

  195. Thomm says:
    @res

    We are not talking about just the 21st percentile. We are talking about ALL of the top 80%. These are the normal, good whites. Not the waste matter wiggers like you.

    White Trashionalists are hilariously innumerate, as you have proved.

    Get off my lawn, faggot.

    • LOL: res
  196. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    My proof? Well, the UK is looking at decriminalizing child pornography because it is such a unitive national influence, like the Rugby Union I suppose..

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/03/04/top-uk-child-protection-cop-wants-to-decriminalize-watching-child-porn/

    http://tennesseewatchman.com/2017/12/uk-police-official-says-looking-child-pornography-decriminalized/

    This is nothing a proof. That police chief make a valid statement. Merely watching child porno is nothing more than those watching IsIs beheading youtube, rape scene, murdering, and whatever crimes.

    People do it for various reasons, including curiosity like after reading this post. Its absurd to criminalize such with jail term, but some counciling will be more constructive for those addicted than putting hundreds of thousands men into jail to bugger each other, overwhelming the police & jail system.

    Most normal people will find it disgusting and stop, but always a certain number will get arouse and addicted like homosexual to gays, even their moral sense told them its wrong. Still this is not a crime unless they are distributing child porno, or directly involving with contacts.

    So i don’t agree with your accusation as it utterly lack evidences, esp your proof is totally of no substance. You need to provide concrete evidence for your claim.

    I am sure many other countries have similar or worst problem than UK that they don’t discuss openly like the West. While my country has no such reporting, but occasionally there are paedophiles get caught which means such problem does exist in society but to what extend we don’t know.

    I am not here to defend UK though i have good experience with this lovely country and well cultured people. Their high child porno addiction and child sexual abuse reported are too alarming worth a Royal Independent investigation. But your below statement is certainly too far fetched and inflammatory.

    The mild response from English men are either they are too cultured and inward, or admission in silent. I would expect they all stand up to defense vigorously, or further expose the endemic problem to justify a crack down, be it on whites or Muslims child predator.

    London is the child abuse capital of the world, and has been for some time,with the rest of England closely behind, although Toronto and Sydney are making up lost time quickly.

    The offenders in this story are very white, jolly old Brits. Like Mr. Derbyshire himself. from the royals all the way down to the street-sweepers. You see, it seems that buggering one’s children, neices, nephews and young pupils, is as British as Bangers and Mash.

    • Replies: @Truth
  197. TT says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Both Hawking & others are based on their own speculation with scanty details.

    More than 2500yrs ago, in ancient India Buddhism scriptures, all these cosmology, infinite number of identical solar systems in infinite Universe, black holes phenomenon, and how the world system form and destroy already well recorded and explained.

    If you truly intetested, you can google on Buddhism and cosmology, black holes to search.

    Below are some brief details.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_science

    [MORE]

    Several discourses that were attributed to the historical Buddha contain a remarkable resemblance to modern astronomical and cosmological claims denoted by modern scientific discovery. For instance, in the Andhakara Sutta, the Buddha mentions in a simile what seems to be an inter-wordly void, or possibly a black hole, as stated in the following excerpt:

    “There is, monks, an inter-cosmic void, an unrestrained darkness, a pitch-black darkness, where even the light of the sun & moon — so mighty, so powerful — doesn’t reach.”[30]

    Moreover, in an age when the geocentric model was the most prominent among the speculations regarding the universe, a different approach has been referenced in the Kosala Sutta whereby the historical Buddha talks about a multitude of cosmos, solar systems, continents, and alike, as it is mentioned:

    As far as the sun & moon revolve, illumining the directions with their light, there extends the thousand-fold cosmos. In that thousand-fold cosmos there are a thousand moons, a thousand suns, a thousand Sunerus — kings of mountains; a thousand Rose-apple continents, a thousand Deathless Ox-cart [continents], a thousand northern Kuru [continents], a thousand eastern Videha [continents],…[31]

    Another seemingly compelling cosmological supposition is evident throughout the discourses regarding a narration similar to the Cyclic model (Big Bang and Big Crunch theory) proposed by Albert Einstein, as it is found in the Maha-Saccaka Sutta and Dvedhavitakka Sutta out of several others, as stated:

    When the mind was thus concentrated, purified, bright, unblemished, rid of defilement, pliant, malleable, steady, & attained to imperturbability, I directed it to the knowledge of recollecting my past lives. I recollected my manifold past lives, i.e., one birth, two… five, ten… fifty, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand, many eons of cosmic contraction, many eons of cosmic expansion, many eons of cosmic contraction & expansion…[32][33][34]

    Out of the many eschatological proclamations made by the various religions and sects around the world, the one found in the Pali Canon matches closest to modern cosmological claims of how the Earth would most probably be destroyed. As mentioned in a sermon known by the “Sermon of the Seven Suns” in the Satta Suriya Sutta ( Aňguttara-Nikăya, VII, 6.2), the earth would be destroyed after a very long time due to the gradual demise of the Solar system, ending with the gradual vaporization of the oceans, culminating with an ablaze Earth, paralleling the death of the Sun turning into a red giant.[35][36]

    “Atthi, bhikkhave, lokantarikā aghā asaṃvutā andhakārā andha­kā­ra­timisā, yatthamimesaṃ can­dima­sūriyā­naṃ evaṃ­ma­hiddhi­kā­naṃ evaṃ mahānubhāvānaṃ ābhāya nānubhontī”ti.

    Bhikkhu Bodhi translates it as;

    Bhikkhus, there are world interstices, vacant and abysmal.

    He notes this passage saying that this expression occurs in DN II 12,11, MN III 120,9 and AN II 130, 26-27. The Samyutta Nikaya Athakattha (SN commentary) does not comment, but Sv, Ps and Mp (commentaries to the other three Nikayas) to the above consistently explain: “Between every three spiral world-out (cakavāḷa) there is one world-out, like a space between three cart wheels set down so that they would touch. That is a ‘world-interstice-hell,’ measuring 8,000 yohanas (approx. 80,000 km). It is vacant, always open and ‘abysmal’ (niccavivaṭa), i.e. without an underlying support, and so dark even eye-consciousness cannot arise.”

    The MN commentary adds: “Between every three world system there is an interspace measuring 8,000 yohanas; it is like the space between three cart wheels or almsbowls touching one another. The beings who live there have taken rebirth there because of committing some heavy, terrible offense against their parents or righteous recluses and brahmins, or because some habituak evil deed like killing animals, etc.

  198. Rogue says:
    @Art Deco

    No idea what you’re on about.

    But the salient point is this: a majority of White Brits DO NOT WANT any further undermining of their homogeneity.

    Not that they wanted it to begin with either.

    Despite concerted efforts by the MSM, academia and assorted others doing their level best to promote the wonders of diversity, people everywhere are generally instinctively uncomfortable about dilution of their national stock.

    Yes, many are totally ok with it; most are not.

  199. @Talha

    My preferred definition of religion is ‘strong irrational conviction’.
    Here in the Netherlands we have two small christian parties.
    One cannot reason with them.
    Our Dutch tolerance of religions just began around 1960, when most Dutch became irreligious.
    Dutch tolerance is part of our culture, but it went never so far as allowing non protestant religions, including catholics, te be more than just allowed.
    More and more churches are converted for non religious uses.
    In contrast, mosques are being built.
    As our late Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn said, murdered, why, we still do not know, ‘it took us hundreds of years to liberate ourselves from the churches; must we again start such a process ?’.
    I fear we must.

    • Replies: @Talha
  200. @jamie b.

    Of course ‘furthermore’ is followed by a comma except in a Ronald Reagan world where ‘gubmint’ is a word.

  201. @War for Blair Mountain

    I think he is demanding that native English men stop acting like faggot CUCKS. If the English didn’t want Pakistanis to come to England, why did the English go to the land later called Pakistan? They are here because you were there.

    • Agree: TT
  202. @Daniel H

    You say that free speech is NEVER open to question. In fact, it does seem to be open to question in the UK.

  203. @NoseytheDuke

    Hi, thanks. Nice to get the support of one of the few sane people around here. :-)

    Regarding this Tommy Robinson character, I had never looked into him that much, but I had run into stuff about him and he looked fake as hell. But now I’ve looked a bit more at this and it’s pretty ridiculous. Just for starters, Tommy Robinson is not his real name. His real name is Stephen Christopher Lennon. This already hints at the possibility that “Tommy Robinson” is just some constructed comic book character.

    Aside from that, he was, until recently, working for Rebel Media, which is just some total Zionist outfit in Canada. And, of course, he proclaims his support for the State of Israel and all that…

    BUT… here is something really interesting I saw about this character. I was wondering what you (and the other people) would make of this:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3005845/Exposed-Star-Tory-candidate-plotted-race-thugs-stage-fake-EDL-demo-cynical-bid-win-votes.html

    In particular, here is a video which contains a tape of a conversation between Tommy Robinson and a Pakistani British politician by the name of Afzal Amin. I never heard of that guy since I don’t follow British politics, certainly not in that detail, but just watch this video. It gets very interesting around the 3 minute mark. Basically you have this Tommy Robinson talking to a prominent British Muslim politician about staging a protest specifically so that this politician can strike a pose and look good.

    What do you fellows make of this?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @vinteuil
  204. @Truth

    Now, according to the articles that I have posted, you know that the amount of incest-rape that takes place in wealthy white homes is huge, and undereported also.

    You could at least post a link to an article supporting your contention because I know no such thing. Or at the very least make a vague and irrelevant reference to Leonard Pitts.

  205. KenH says:
    @Talha

    My proposal was based on how Pakistani Muslims would react in their own country to white Christians forcibly grooming their young women for prostitution. Don’t think there’d be some collective punishment and indiscriminate reprisals against the white Christian minority? Even if the government was restrained in its response the Paki Muslim citizenry would not be and the government would likely turn a blind eye to any bloody reprisals.

    Some third world groups and especially Muslims only seem to understand brute force and collective punishment since that’s what they often mete out to their foes. Anything less is usually considered a sign of weakness and they find restraint, proportional punishment and magnanimity laughable.

    As we’re seeing throughout the Western world and especially the U.K. and Western Europe, attempting to apply Western concepts of justice towards Muslims and other third world groups has been disastrous and seems only to embolden them.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Talha
  206. @Dan Hayes

    It was a DDOS attack–three in three days. Swine.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @International Jew
  207. Che Guava says:
    @Truth

    You try to exonerate the Moslem (paki) rape gangs with bullshit arguments. That is all.

    B.T.W., Jim Goad’s latest article at Taki’s mag was on the same topic, so if you have a Discus (or however they are spelling it) account, you may have some fun trolling the comments thread there, too.

    (⌒‐⌒)

  208. KenH says:
    @SMK

    Yes, and I read that in some cases girls who attempted to report the grooming by Paki Muslims were accused of being motivated by racism by lily white British police. So don’t think the politically correct, self hating curs that are the so called British authorities who knew about this and did nothing should escape the hangman’s noose. They need to be made an example of.

    But this doesn’t mean that the Paki Muslims who committed these atrocious crimes don’t have agency or aren’t ultimately responsible for their actions.

    • Replies: @res
  209. @War for Blair Mountain

    Amritsar is (for India) quite a non-toiletty place, especially after Calcutta and Benares. And I don’t think UK Sikhs are having that many kids.

    Brits and Sikhs generally get on OK.

  210. Talha says:
    @KenH

    Don’t think there’d be some collective punishment and indiscriminate reprisals against the white Christian minority?

    There would possibly be a pogrom, sure.

    That is neither sanctioned by sacred law nor (the propensity to do so) a sign of a “healthy people”. And those that did that crime would answer for it before God – in this I have no doubt.

    attempting to apply Western concepts of justice towards Muslims and other third world groups has been disastrous and seems only to embolden them.

    Like I said, option 1 – go Shariah on the violators – what is so difficult to understand about the concept? Start lopping off hands and feet or string up their bodies on crosses in Trafalgar Square for the crows to pick the meat off their faces and people start getting the message.

    Why are the options so bipolar; we either 1) have to cuddle and excuse them or 2) we burn anybody that looks like them alive? I thought Britain was a High IQ society; it can’t come up with a reasonable middle-ground solution that’s not lifted from the playbook of Genghiz Khan?

    And if you decide – nah, we gotta go full pogrom, well – like I said, I’m just helping you guys brainstorm ideas. For instance, remember, burn the bodies after the rape – that way there won’t be any evidence in case some bungling, nosy international investigative team makes a visit post-event. Also, remember to rape them in front of their parents so they really get that message; otherwise they will think you are cucks and be emboldened. Really show ‘em what you’re made of – like brand them first with heated crosses so they get the message you just do not have the right to look like someone that messes with Christians – no sir! Then afterwards, years later, when you’re smoking the pipe at the fire an the grand kids ask “Grandpa, where were you at the Great Cleansing of 2018?” you can tell them all the sacrifices you made in beating in hijabi skulls with tire irons to build a better world for them, maybe show them the tattoos and also the videos.

    I can’t help you, if you don’t help me to help you to become a better purger.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  211. Che Guava says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    You may well be correct. Thanks. We have Jiggers (who would never be convincing in words, though they try with gestures), you have Wiggers, China has Wiggers, too, but they are spelling it ‘Uighur’, so I am guessing it is not quite the same thing.

    Recently I met a Migger, (Mexico – exico + igger), quite a clever person and good for conversation, but his tastes for entertainment were purely to Afro-American, very boring. There must be some interesting and new music and film from Mexico. Sure, only tiny Spanish for me, so I cannot following a verbal comedy routine, or drama without Japanese subtitles, but I was the curious about how he was only interested in *igger bs from the U.S.A. I would have preferred if he was wanting to show and hear old and new things from Mexico.

  212. @Rich

    Collecting their pay, same as the American military. And, yes, they will allow it to happen. After all, they will be the last ones to have their throats slit. Until then they can always watch The Great Escape for the 50th time, or read another biography of Churchill. Nothing matters except that the Nazis lost! And, hey, I hear England went undefeated in World Cup qualifying this time around. Go Three Lions!

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  213. @NotBob

    I’ll give you Jeff Beck. He’s in – top 10?

  214. @thor47

    I just knew Butch Trucks as one of the 2 drummers of the Allman Brothers – just looked it up and found he is a guitarist too.

    • Replies: @res
  215. @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t know how many are going to know the background of the guy like you do, Reg. I sure don’t, and don’t care. He played some great stuff, and I don’t put him in the category of the Bonos, and possibly your Stings. It’s the former who spout on, even during their shows, about political stuff that they don’t know a damn thing about, and the latter who just have political stuff in their lyrics that oftentimes is just stupid.

    As far as Knopfler’s lyrics above, the song was a humorous one, unless I’m missing stuff, and I just put those lines in to state that’s all the mention before I’ve read on “Speaker’s Corner” – “Two men say they’re Jesus – one of ‘em must be wrong …”

    I thank you for the spelling correction, but it is a silent “p” anyway, isn’t it? You don’t need all those letters, at least I don’t when I write in Fo Francay. ;-}

  216. @Anon

    ‘Australia aborigines were systematically slaughtered & deprived, they children got removed forcely, land stolen… they are still living in shitholes scattered among world best cities.’

    No, this is completely incorrect in every detail.

    The history of European and Aboriginal relations is overwhelmingly one of indifference – which is natural, given the size of the country relative to the population – and, where there was/is interaction, there were/are high rates of intermarriage.

    The cultural marxists have made up a bunch of rubbish sob stories to try to get support for their agenda of perpetual outrage and to shame others into doing their bidding. I implore you, don’t fall for it.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @NoseytheDuke
    , @Anon
  217. @Jim Don Bob

    This guy:

    (No, he didn’t have the voice of a John Fogerty, by any means! Bobby sang pretty well, and for a few years they had the back-up singer Donna Godchaux (who came as a package deal with that era’s keyboard player. You can (barely) see her grooving here.)

    Jerry Garcia’s guitar lead here on Bertha is from 02:50 to 04:50, and he gets into the groove well 30 s into it. It’d be better to listen to the whole thing to see how it fits in though. (sorry, too many embeds already, so this’ll take you to youtube.)

  218. Talha says:
    @jilles dykstra

    My preferred definition of religion is ‘strong irrational conviction’.

    My friend, you seem too well read to discount men like Pascal, Liebniz, Newton, Roger Bacon, etc. as merely irrational. That’s not even counting the hundreds of Muslim scholars that were very religious and masters of logic. There is nothing irrational about the idea that there is a Creator and that it communicates its will to mankind through certain emissaries. Now the details might not be to your liking – which is fine, but it is very, very difficult for me to accept that, say, a man like Farraday was irrational.

    Dutch tolerance is part of our culture, but it went never so far as allowing non protestant religions, including catholics, te be more than just allowed.

    This is basically the rule in Muslim majority lands. Religious minorities are allowed; they are simply not given the keys to the castle or allowed to set the overall agenda. This can be done constitutionally; simply declare the Netherlands to be an official Protestant state – or whatever – in which the state religion is strictly defined, the head of state has to be Protestant, etc. Or make it “Protestant or Athiest”, etc. whatever floats your boat.

    More and more churches are converted for non religious uses.
    In contrast, mosques are being built.

    Same thing happening in the US – to a lesser degree of course. The mosque I attend used to be a church, same with the one my kids used to go to for Qur’an memorization. Someone’s got to make use of the space.

    As our late Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn said, murdered, why, we still do not know, ‘it took us hundreds of years to liberate ourselves from the churches; must we again start such a process ?’.

    It seems to me that Europeans on the whole simply don’t want to live lives compatible with religious sensibilities. They have (in general) turned their backs on religion and it has turned its back on them – we’ll see how things go.

    I fear we must.

    We all don’t seem to mind hegemony as long as it comports with our assumptions about how things should work. Once we are able to admit this, the conversation gets much more interesting.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Randal
    , @dfordoom
  219. Che Guava says:
    @Talha

    Since you are an avowedly devout pro-Sharia Moslem, it is difficult to find anything in that post amusing, though intended as such, your nasty words all reflect upon and turn back on you.

    • Replies: @Talha
  220. Talha says:
    @KenH

    how Pakistani Muslims would react in their own country to white Christians forcibly grooming their young women for prostitution

    I just thought about this actually; this is preposterous – everyone knows this would never happen!

    Why would we let you near our women in the first place??!!

    My wife was just telling me (literally today) about a sister she knows who is thirty years old and still unmarried; she still has to negotiate curfew with her father.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  221. Randal says:
    @Talha

    It seems to me that Europeans on the whole simply don’t want to live lives compatible with religious sensibilities. They have (in general) turned their backs on religion and it has turned its back on them – we’ll see how things go.

    The numbers certainly suggest that:

    ‘Christianity as default is gone’: the rise of a non-Christian Europe

    Europe’s march towards a post-Christian society has been starkly illustrated by research showing a majority of young people in a dozen countries do not follow a religion.

    The survey of 16- to 29-year-olds found the Czech Republic is the least religious country in Europe, with 91% of that age group saying they have no religious affiliation. Between 70% and 80% of young adults in Estonia, Sweden and the Netherlands also categorise themselves as non-religious.

    The most religious country is Poland, where 17% of young adults define themselves as non-religious, followed by Lithuania with 25%.

    ….

    “The new default setting is ‘no religion’, and the few who are religious see themselves as swimming against the tide,” he said.

    The saddest part is that given the political activism of modern mainstream Christianity – leftist, anti-racist, pro-homo, pro-mass immigration, the decline of church influence cannot even honestly be decried, short of a revival in a healthier Victorian-era muscular national Christianity (ie a Christianity that recognises that patriotism is wholly compatible with Christianity and indeed essential to a healthy society).

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @dfordoom
  222. Karl says:
    @Talha

    196 Talha > As I asked someone else; we’re not simply going to hand it over to you

    we’ve already got it

    > …so, how many lives are you willing to put on the line to have sole sovereignty of that city?

    Palestinian Authority does not operate even a single office, anywhere in Jerusalem

    PS: My Pakistani friends are JUST as willing to murder-for-hire Palestinians now, as they were during “Black September”

    • Replies: @Talha
  223. Talha says:
    @Che Guava

    devout pro-Sharia Moslem

    Which is why I am against any pogroms. Also..flattery will get you nowhere, you tease.

    it is difficult to find anything in that post amusing

    Have mercy on the inbred and retarded; we have difficulty getting our points across. There is no hope for us…

    And the wind as it wound its way through the cherry trees, budding with their first blossoms, whispered; “ignore commenter, the button…find it after clicking the ‘etc.’ “

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  224. Talha says:
    @Karl

    we’ve already got it…Palestinian Authority does not operate even a single office, anywhere in Jerusalem

    Cool – then you should be happy. Tell the world you’re cool as beans and want to keep status quo.

    High five!

    My Pakistani friends are JUST as willing to murder-for-hire Palestinians now, as they were during “Black September”

    Really, that’s interesting – the Saudis asked them to hop along on their little adventure in Yemen and they refused. You have friends in the Pakistani military command? Impressive.

    Another high-five!

  225. Talha says:
    @Randal

    short of a revival in a healthier Victorian-era muscular national Christianity

    I would agree here. But that comes with a lot of things; for instance, look at my post #140 and how working class British women were expected to dress in society. Are people willing to make that sacrifice?

    Look, here’s the deal – and I’m just going to give you my take on it as a Muslim. You can completely ignore it or take whatever you like out of it.

    For too long, Europe has been ignoring the force that is religion. They thought they could turn their backs on it and simply grow out of it. And maybe they could do this since they had been gradually changing course over centuries and changing their priorities. But actions have consequences.

    And this brings up an important question; can you go back to religion in order for a gain or do those gains naturally arise out of religious commitment. Do you see what I’m saying? Can you simply try to cut a deal with God if you don’t take Him seriously? Religion at its core is belief; conviction that translates naturally into actions.

    So for instance, the reason mosques are going up is because Muslims are committed to them and keeping them frequented. When I go to evening prayers – around 60 men (sometimes up to 90) show up from the neighborhood on a daily basis (takes 30 minutes of our time). Then there is the early morning prayer which less people show up for, but we usually get a good 30 or so on a daily basis (even at 4:30 in the morning and even in 10 degree Chicago weather). That takes commitment; serious, daily commitment – but that is born out of the belief that God wants us to be there (that in fact, if you aren’t there, something is wrong because He didn’t extend the invitation to His house, that He will reward us for every step we take. That will in turn root the community strong with the mosque at its center. And this story is taking places in hundreds of cities across the West.

    Our teachers have taught us the profound lesson in the trail of our father Abraham (pbuh); what is it that you hold most dear? Is it your people, your race, your society? Your what? Consider that to be your “first born” and be ready to sacrifice it for Him and when you are, when you sincerely are – because you can fake everyone out, but you can’t fake Him – that’s when He will accept your commitment and not only vouchsafe that which you hold dear, but multiply it for you.

    But if you decide you don’t need Him – well and good…but what if He decides He doesn’t need you?

    Again, take it for what it’s worth as some advice from a Muslim perspective.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Karl
  226. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    No wonder English men here are rather silent with this article and your comments. They are fully aware of their problem.

    I wonder if this sick phenomenon does happen in many other countries too, but just get covered up.

    The long time covered up rampant sex abuse by White Catholic clergymen & Church pastors is another shocking truth to the world.

    UN peace keeping stuffs are also engulfed with sex abusing in countries they supposed to protect. They are like cunning fox pretending to look after hens house.

    So how these Western people can have any morality high ground to intervene on other countries, spreading their values and religion when they could not tidy up their own backyards?

    CIA/MI6 likely find these VIPs a rich ground to exploit & blackmail into puppet leaders.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Truth
    , @RadicalCenter
  227. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Stabbing Heuer

    The history of European and Aboriginal relations is overwhelmingly one of indifference – which is natural, given the size of the country relative to the population – and, where there was/is interaction, there were/are high rates of intermarriage.

    Show me evidence.

    Have you ever visit Australia? I live in Australia for some time, and i see the aborigines poor condition. They are like pest to the society, frequently breaking into houses to steal food when hungry. But they are not violent or criminal like blacks in US. Its the white druggie break in that are more violent looking for valuables.

    From the traditional cruel exploitative way European colonist treated every single country natives that they colonized, your word is unbelievable. Even higher civilized people like India, Burma, Asia when invaded and colonized by Europeans, they were treated with cruelty & atrocity. What’s more for primitive aborigines in Australia.

    High rate of intermarriage of aborigines & white Anglos, what nonsense are you spewing. I haven’t heard of one. Would you like to marry a abor?

    Your words are really blatant shameless lies, isn’t it? Even that little hope that the younger white generation will have some conscience & guilt towards their ancestors evil deeds are destroyed by you. So sorry to say, Shameless Liars is in your DNA gene.

  228. Randal says:

    But that comes with a lot of things; for instance, look at my post #140 and how working class British women were expected to dress in society. Are people willing to make that sacrifice?

    As I suspect we would agree, it’s not a sacrifice for people in a healthy culture – women dressing modestly in public comes as a natural consequence of a healthy society. The growing loss of resistance to public female immodesty is fundamentally just decadence, and has developed hand in hand with feminism and the destruction of the family, along with irreligion.

    can you go back to religion in order for a gain or do those gains naturally arise out of religious commitment. Do you see what I’m saying? Can you simply try to cut a deal with God if you don’t take Him seriously? Religion at its core is belief; conviction that translates naturally into actions….That takes commitment; serious, daily commitment – but that is born out of the belief that God wants us to be there

    If there is a revival of the kind I mentioned (I have less confidence in such than I once had, but hope springs eternal, and the night is darkest just before the dawn, etc etc) it will be because communities living in that way will arise and grow organically, despite the state and the pressures of conformity.

    I don’t underplay the dramatic difficulties such communities and such a revival will face (the generally useless Rod Dreher makes much of the poisonous effects of “modernity” – for which read the kind of leftist culture he generally defends – and is not wrong about it) but on the other hand how much harder is it than it was in Roman times?

  229. Truth says:
    @Anon

    Yes, it is a worldwide problem, but as I mentioned, worse in England than anywhere with Canada and Australia moving up quickly. It’s not an aberration but a lifestyle amongst the wealthy. Has to do with Satanism with is rampant amongst these people, and I could go on about it for 2 hours without notes.

    The most ridiculous thing is that they always set up a proxy, sort of like Emmanuel Goldstein, for people to hate insted of looking into their own societies.

    And the scary thing is that they no longer really don’t go to any great length to cover it up; and clowns STILL don’t believe it.

  230. @Jon Baptist

    Tommy Robinson, Lauren Southern and others in that self-proclaimed “nationalist” vein are Zionist shills.

    Amen.

    Robinson is either a paid operative or a useful idiot used to create a block of easily controlled pawns with the primary objective of sustaining violent friction between Muslims and Christians.

    Very well put. I wrote my comment #154, not having noticed this one by you. Or probably, when I composed my comment, yours was still in the pipeline.

    There is another fake on the other side of the synthetic divide, this radical Muslim cleric, Anjem Choudary. That guy is another fake for sure. Funny enough, both Choudary and Tommy Robinson have been on BBC Newsnight hosted by Jeremy Paxman.

    In any case, the amount of mainstream media attention this figure gets is already in and of itself pretty much a dead giveaway that the guy is some sort of shill.

    • Replies: @Jon Baptist
    , @Joe Correa
  231. res says:
    @KenH

    They should dig up those reports then name and shame the specific police involved.

  232. res says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Don’t confuse Butch and Derek Trucks. Butch Trucks was Derek’s uncle. Derek was guitarist in one of the later incarnations of the Allman Brothers Band. Butch was a drummer and a founding member of the Allman Brothers Band.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  233. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Chick Gandil

    Collecting their pay, same as the American military. And, yes, they will allow it to happen.

    Agreed. Anyone who thinks that either the police or the military are there to defend the people is living in a dream world. They are there in the final analysis to defend the ruling class, because it’s the ruling class who pay them.

    • Replies: @Truth
  234. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Talha

    It seems to me that Europeans on the whole simply don’t want to live lives compatible with religious sensibilities. They have (in general) turned their backs on religion and it has turned its back on them

    The important point is that Europeans have voluntarily abandoned Christianity. Europeans, of their own free will, decided they didn’t need religion any more. Instead they embraced a secular substitute religion composed of a mixture of hedonism, greed, consumerism and virtue-signalling.

    Now they’re surprised that European civilisation is falling apart.

    • Replies: @Talha
  235. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Randal

    The saddest part is that given the political activism of modern mainstream Christianity – leftist, anti-racist, pro-homo, pro-mass immigration, the decline of church influence cannot even honestly be decried, short of a revival in a healthier Victorian-era muscular national Christianity

    Agreed. The Christian churches today are in effect post-Christian churches. It isn’t just the laity who have abandoned Christianity – the church hierarchies were the first to do so.

    Part of the problem is that churches decided the best strategy was to go for popularity and to welcome all comers. That opened the doors to homosexuals and feminists. At which point the heterosexual men left. I find it difficult to imagine any normal heterosexual man belonging to a modern Christian church. They also decided that the best strategy to deal with scepticism and atheism was to embrace these things.

    If you want Victorian-era muscular national Christianity (which I agree would be a very good thing) you’re going to need heterosexual men. You’re going to need churches which celebrate masculinity rather than apologising for it. You’re going to need to clear the homosexuals and the feminists out of the churches.

    • Replies: @Talha
  236. Talha says:
    @dfordoom

    And trust me, I do not say this with any glee. As I said to AaronB one time; the collapse of a spiritual powerhouse that was at one time Christian Europe is a tragedy all the world should cry over.

    It’s loss to the forces you mention is everyone’s loss – and it does not portend good things for the world.

    Peace.

  237. Talha says:
    @dfordoom

    Take a cue from us, women pray behind the men. It is a small start, but it is a litmus test if you can move forward or if you are stuck where you are. Small steps before you can run.

    The feminists have tried again and again to demand they pray alongside the men, but a handful of random mosques are the only ones that accommodate. It helps to hold your ground when you have rules like in my school, Hanafi – if a female prays in the same row as a male, his prayer is nullified.

    Peace.

  238. @res

    Aha, that clears it up. Thanks, Res.

  239. I like to tread lightly on the issue of child sexual abuse — because my responses in the past have elicited suggestions that I am in the closet, in league with NAMBLA, and other assorted ills of the human soul.

    So before I comment allow me to say,

    I am not in favor of relations with children. I am not in favor same relational behavior, nor have I ever so engaged. I neither support nor encourage prostitution. My celibacy is not a dodge to any hidden secret desires. I like women and am partial to women with legs —-

    However, since the the ritualistic abuse satanic scandals that littered the US media landscape, it’s very clear that these issues are ripe for hysterical generalizations born out of misleading and false narratives which fuel our prurient interests. And no one, but no one should take them at face value as blared by the press and the more than cottage industry making their bones on the allegation.

    Taking the number at face value 1000 over 40 years — that’s 25 such cases a year. Of the entire 240,000 population 26% of them are under the age of 20. Since we are talking about children 62,500 children have been subject to abuse. If we consider that 25 cases per annum ere subject to a sexual abuse group, it amounts to 0.04% o the children were so treated. I am willing to bet as in other such stories that the magnitude of the story will gradually grow smaller and smaller as hype gives way to fact. One of the realities about the UK press corps and the its child protective organizations is that they tend to operate on hyper exaggerated drive when it comes to children and sexual relations. No small number of advocacy groups for children also ride the gravy train of fund raising on behalf of children and women’s causes.. One of the ways they milk the system is to blow up cases of abuse.

    They also tend to make a lot of hay of errors by the police. Embarrassing them into self recriminations for not having acted more aggressively against any number of accusations. I won’t defend not doing so. But I am willing to give the police the benefit of the doubt that they did not intend to ignore crimes, but rather place accusations in contexts which may have diminished their seriousness. No doubt that youngsters with troubled histories fall victim to unscrupulous men and women itching to make a dollar of their youth, naivete’ and vulnerability. That is tragic.

    But it is also egregious that something so important loses weight under the hyper calisthenics of self righteous fund raising on their behalf or as has been the case in the US the use of a small cases to bring the Catholic Church to heel to all things liberal.

    I am going to sidestep the ever growing assignment of sexual abuse of any kind uniquely to Muslims, since in western society the majority of these cases hyped or not are largely the doings of white, nonmuslim individuals. Only this, Europeans are notorious users of survey data sets to compile the sexual abuse narratives.

    Abuse at any level is tragic. More so when it involves children are most vital commodity.

  240. @Anonymous

    1) If they weren’t so intent on interfering in so many other people countries, you wouldn’t see so many 3rd worlders in your country.

    How do you explain Sweden?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Sarah Toga
  241. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    None. There’s two different groups, the members both of which should be flayed and then drowning in boiling oil (and their skins displayed). There’s a working class Pakistani group that preys on accessible working class white girls and then there is an unrelated posh white group with celebrities and politicians. “Truth” is trying to set up a false dilemma.
    At Steve’s place there has been a coalescence around the idea that these attackers were not just Muslims or Pakistanis but specifically all from the same disreputable group of “janglees” or Mirpuris. I don’t know anything about Pakistani minority groups but if this is true then it ought to make prosecution politically easier.

  242. Kyle says:
    @Anon

    Obviously you are passionate about your convictions, but many of your sentences are missing verbs or subjects, rendering them unintelligible.

  243. @Jonathan Revusky

    Thanks Jonathan. I read your comments as well and agree with you completely. Hopefully, the people that insult you on sites like this will begin to think for themselves and become tired of being used as pawns by various manufactured pied pipers. Let’s hope this happens before groups like the CFR start another world war. A while ago, I listened to Barrett’s show when both you and Linh Dinh were guests. You guys are great.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Jonathan Revusky
  244. Talha says:
    @Jon Baptist

    What’re your guys’ takes on this Austin “serial bomber” guy? Set up? Real deal? They say he made a confession video…

    Too early to tell?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Jon Baptist
  245. @Jonathan Revusky

    Strange bedfellows indeed. Amin appears to be a guy who was just not making it so he joined the daft and barmy (army) and discovered that thanks to tokenism, he could go farther than he ever imagined. It does look like “Tommy” was either suspicious or was setting a trap so he recorded the meetings. He seems to have succeeded in bringing down Amin who was seeking to use him and his crew. He seems to have a background as a soccer hooligan who attained acceptance as some sort of a leader who is looking to take that as far as he can for his 15 mins of fame. I can see why he’d want to use an alias running in those circles.

    The EDL people are sincere but an odd mix, they are poorly organised with little in the way of a shared ideology. I knew Dudley as a kid as my dad had business to attend to in the Birmingham jewellery quarter. I went to the zoo situated in the grounds of an old castle there. The area has been overrun with people from the former colonies to a degree that it’s no wonder that many of the original people are disgruntled. The last time I was there the decay was evident.

    There is so much subterfuge around that I really don’t know who to trust or what is going on so I agree with you that the default position should be to suspect monkey business until proven otherwise. We’ve been lied to in every way such that it is prudent to ask when have we ever been fed truthful information by the media?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  246. Truth says:
    @dfordoom

    Agreed. Anyone who thinks that either the police or the military are there to defend the people is living in a dream world. They are there in the final analysis to defend the ruling class, because it’s the ruling class who pay them.

    Technically we pay them. On the greater issue you are totally correct. There is not even a secret or a conspiracy involved. Most police forces have the kikemason insignia right on the badge.

    http://www.usavsus.info/MasonsInLawEnforcement.html

    https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/bizarre-masonic-police-force-uncovered-in-los-angeles/

  247. wayfarer says:

    Be careful not to infringe, on the free will of others.

    As each finite creation is part of an infinite continuous creation, and therefore inherently infinite.

    A thought conceived with its emotional signature sensed, echos through the cosmos for eternity, allowing even the “Creator” to feel and experience it.

    “God,” experiencing a fragrant pollen laden flower on a beautiful sunny day, through a happily employed honeybee.

  248. Anon[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stabbing Heuer

    My apology for calling you shameless liar. Since we are all living in a msm distorted world, most might be brainwashed subconsciously into believing what the gov wanted to white wash. As i don’t know you, you could be a innocent one.

    I worked in most of these Asia countries, Australia and India, so i know by first hand knowledge which you might not have. Most natives were systematically massacre, suppressed & exploited, with their resources pillaged. The British was considered a better one among all cruel European colonists, while Dutch & Portuguese were known to be worst.

    America is beyond description, the only country that has systematically used chemical WMD Orange Agent, napalm, Nuke & depleted plutonium ammunition on innocent civilians without mercy. It even taught terrorists how to use chemical WMD in Syria for false flag. This is the most evil empire in the world, with its axis of evils, foremost UK, Fr, Germany, Australia, India, Japan, Israel, Saudi, Turkey & Gulf nations.

  249. @NoseytheDuke

    discovered that thanks to tokenism, he could go farther than he ever imagined

    Well, that guy has “opportunist” written all over him. Now, I don’t know British politics as well as you and some other people here do, but my sense of things is that a Pakistani who joins the Tory party is very likely to be some sort of “Uncle Tom” opportunist. It’s about like the blacks who join the Republican party in the U.S. and then it’s an interesting game, because that party has such an image of being a party of white racists, so they will appoint practically any black to a high position in the party to say they aren’t racists, right? So, I’m figuring that something similar happens in the U.K. They refer to this Amin guy as a “rising star” in the TOry party, but not after this incident, eh?

    That video has at least one ROTFL moment though. Did you catch the bit where they are in a restaurant (Pakistani restaurant I assume) and Amin orders a curry “as mild as possible” and “Tommy” says to him something like: “You don’t like spicy food?” And the guy answers back: “What do you take me for, a Paki?”

    Shit! Could you make something like that up? It’s so bloody hilarious! I mean, in principle, the two of them are supposed to be blood enemies and they have such a friendly, bantering rapport.

    It does look like “Tommy” was either suspicious or was setting a trap so he recorded the meetings.

    Well that’s possible, and I think that’s what “Tommy” claimed afterwards, but I have my doubts. My take (though I’m not 100% sure) is that somebody else was recording and both were getting set up. Tommy was then given the out that he represented that he was setting up Amin. But again, I’m not 100% sure.

    Or, another possibility is that it was a sting operation to take down this guy and “Tommy” was taking part in it, but at the behest of his Deep State controllers.

    The EDL people are sincere

    Well, the rank and file are sincere, sure. I suppose that’s typically the case with these sorts of controlled opposition groups. Well, on occasion, you also have people who are just paid agitators like on Maidan in Kiev. But there as well, I think a lot of the rank and file were sincere, but they were getting manipulated by the people higher up in the thing. Useful idiots. But okay, sincere idiots…

    The area has been overrun with people from the former colonies to a degree that it’s no wonder that many of the original people are disgruntled.

    Well, again, I don’t doubt that these people have genuine grievances, real reasons to be unhappy. The problem is that their discontent can easily be channeled by whatever Deep State faction for their own ends. It’s like the Tea Party in the U.S. The discontent of these working/middle class whites has a real basis, but the whole thing is a controlled opposition thing still.

    the default position should be to suspect monkey business until proven otherwise.

    Yeah, well, that’s my position, that you can’t really take what the MSM is showing you at face value. That’s the central theme of all the writing I’ve done on this site. One funny aspect of this is that, when I run across my own articles from about two years ago, that, even to me, seemed radical, nowadays I perceive them as rather mild. I look at them now and I feel that, if anything, I’m understating the case. Similarly, when I first came across Ron Unz’s “American Pravda” articles, I found them pretty daring or radical… now, when I come across them, well, I still like them, but they come across to me nowadays as very milquetoast. “They’re lying to us about this. They’re lying to us about that…” “Yeah, sure they are, Ron. And the sun rose in the east this morning and water is wet and…

    What I mean to say is that the sheer extent to which everything they are presenting us is phony, including the entire history of the last century, we live in a “democracy”, whatever… all of the things that the HIQIs dutifully believe, to all intents and purposes, it’s all an induced mass hallucination.

    So once you really are red-pilled to that extent, they show you somebody like this “Tommy Robinson” character and your first instinct is that this is some kind of phony. That’s not absolute proof that he is a phony, mind you, but if that is your basic gut feeling in these cases, IMO you’ll just about never be wrong!

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  250. @Truth

    You must have a hell of an ADD. Where are your numbers? This is the same retarded bullshit as “all men are sexist” and “all religions are bad” and “white Germans also grope”.

    Where are your numbers to say “all men are paedophiles therefore is not a Muslim problem” ?

    And no, retarded articles in the Telegraph are not enough.

    But let us for the sake of the argument, concede that as you say, 50% of white Brits and Americans (USA) are disgusting paedophiles, and let us suppose we both are either Brits or Americans, because I am neither. What I say is:

    They are “our” disgusting paedophiles, we don’t need to import foreign ones with a more “hands on” approach to paedophilia.

    If it is too late and the foreign ones already in the country have organised grooming gangs, we have to denounce them publicly and either deport them or make an example out of them (fat prison sentences, castration or hang them naked by the neck from traffic lights and trees, genitals in their mouths)

    That is in order to send a message to “our” paedophiles that such behavior won’t be tolerated. As I said, it is one thing to watch and posess disgusting pics and another to organise in gangs in order to sistematically rape, force in to prostitution, intimidate and kill your non muslim neighbours daughters, because the culture you were raised in implicitly considered fair game non muslim women.

    Your bringing to the discussion the paedophilia problems already existent in our countries will only confuse and obscure the matter, make you look like a wimp retard, and make it more difficult to find solutions because “we can’t jail everyone” paralisis.

    True we can’t but we can keep them wanking at home instead of thinking about imitating the Pakis and wondering how easy it is to actually groom and then abuse children, and then proceed into organising themselves in order to rape, abuse, force into prostitution and kill our daughters.

    • Replies: @Truth
  251. @foobc

    It is also weird that you do not have a clue as to what you are and what Bin Ladin was.

  252. Truth says:
    @Joe Correa

    Your bringing to the discussion the paedophilia problems already existent in our countries will only confuse and obscure the matter, make you look like a wimp retard,

    Oh, is that what speaking out for white children does?

    • Replies: @Joe Correa
  253. Karl says:
    @Talha

    234 Talha > those gains naturally arise out of religious commitment

    so you and I agree; Mecca should be full of churches, synagogues, and Buddhist and Hindu temples; so that Muslims can demonstrate to the whole world that they will never stray

    • Replies: @Talha
  254. @Anon

    Most Catholic priests in the world are not white European people, and this has been true for a long time. So, absent some actual evidence to the contrary, any child molestation or sexual abuse of pre-teens was and is ostensibly committed mostly by non-white priests.

    Sorry you can’t blame everything on those supposedly “extra-bad” white people.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Anon
  255. Talha says:
    @Karl

    so you and I agree; Mecca should be full of churches, synagogues, and Buddhist and Hindu temples

    No – why would we allow that? To virtue signal? But since I follow the Hanafi school, I’m down for people of all religious stripes visiting both Makkah and Madinah. Hopefully the Saudis will eventually come around to this position; I’m certain many non-Muslims would be eager to visit as I am eager for them to be able to do so.

    so that Muslims can demonstrate to the whole world that they will never stray

    Not really interested in what the world thinks of us to be honest; we just need to be committed to God and show Him we won’t stray:
    wa laa na’budu illa iyyah – mukhliseena lahud-deena wa law karihal kafiroon
    “We will worship none but You, staying sincere to the faith, though disbelievers dislike it.”

    Ultimately, His is the opinion that counts…

  256. Truth says:

    Most Catholic priests in the world are not white European people,

    In Europe?

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  257. SMK says: • Website
    @pyrrhus

    The governing-classes and ruling-elites of the UK and U.S. are both evil and insane, and so, too, those of Germany, France, Sweden, Canada, etc., but there are differences. In the UK, misogynistic and primitive subhuman Muslim degenerates, savages, and monsters are free to abduct, enslave, rape, gang-rape, “groom” for prostitution, torture, brutalize, terrorize, and even kill, in a few instances, English girls, mostly adolescents but even prepubertal girls as young as 10 and 11, in Telford for almost a half century. In Sweden they are free to commit 95% of rapes with little chance of serious punishment, much less mass deportations. In Germany they are free to assault, sexually and non-sexually, hundreds of women and girls with little chance of serious punishment, much less mass deportations. And there is no chance that the invasion of Muslims, and also black Africans, will be ended.

    In the United States, teachers and other adult women who have sex with young men under age 16 or even 18 (and now in most states, if teachers, even 18-year-old students) are sentenced to months in jail or years in prison (even decades in some cases), years of “sex-offender treatment,” years of quasi-totalitarian post-incarceration supervision, a lifetime or at least 20-30 years of public sex-offender registration, and (for Abigail Simon and many others) a life-sentence or at least 20-30 years of electronic parole-monitory with an ankle-tether/”bracelet” they cannot remove even when showering, bathing, or having sex.

    Of the tiny fraction of Muslim males who have been and will be convicted of and sentenced for the aforementioned crimes and atrocities, I doubt that even one of them will be sentenced to 8-25 years in prison like Abigail Simon, much less a lifetime of draconian/Orwellian persecution. And scores of them combined, the tiny fraction who are actually punished, will serve less time in prison then the woman teacher in Georgia who was sentenced to 40-years in prison and the Nevada woman who was sentenced to life in prison for allegedly “forcing” a 13-year-old male to touch her breast. Yes, antithetical kinds of evil and lunacy.

  258. @Talha

    Hi Talha. This is an example of how psychological terror is imposed on the public through the use mass media. Paranoia is intentionally planted in people so that they fear their fellow neighbour and the perceived lunatic around the corner. After being propagandized for an extended period and schooled with identity politics, normal people start to act in a crazy manner and begin to lash out against one another. The end result is honest people, in fear of a lack of security, run to their governments for an increased militarized police force. This is the US version of operation Gladio. It is most important to look at what Austin and Texas implement now in response to this event.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @dfordoom
  259. Talha says:
    @Jon Baptist

    After being propagandized for an extended period and schooled with identity politics, normal people start to act in a crazy manner and begin to lash out against one another….It is most important to look at what Austin and Texas implement now in response to this event.

    Excellent points – especially now that they can track your general trajectory on facebook or these other social-media outlets, they can feed it further with targeted content. It’s interesting that so many of these guys don’t survive to give their own narration; quite convenient. I had read he had some confession/suicide video, but not sure if they will make it publicly available.

    Peace.

  260. @Truth

    You are not speaking out for white children, you silly.

    You are merely, maybe unconsciously, trying to derrail the discussion with whataboutery and retarded cultural relativism.

    Again: your proof is moronic. Your cultural relativism is retarded.

    • Replies: @Truth
  261. @Jonathan Revusky

    And the “violent friction” for 100s of years between Muslims and Europeans were also “paid operatives”?

    The berber Muslim pirates kidnapping to sexually enslave women and whatever else they got in their raids for centuries was also black propaganda?

    The “violent frictions” between Muslims and Hindus and Sikhs also? ah don’t tell me, British operatives did it!

    So before the colonies and the Crusades they were conviving peacefully like in the film Kingdom of Heaven?

    Or was it the Zionists!? ahahahah

    How can you be so autistic and mildly retarded, and yet so seemingly articulate, pray tell. I am genuinely interested in the phenomena.

    Get a grip muppet.

    • Troll: Jonathan Revusky
    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  262. Truth says:
    @Joe Correa

    If posting articles and videos about pedophilia in England is derraing a discussion about pedophilia in England, I guess it needed to be derrailed…Senior.

    • Replies: @Joe Correa
  263. @Truth

    Yes, even in Europe, due to plunging enrollment into the priesthood, which in itself is related to overall decrease and fertility, along with the loss of status for having a cleric in the family.

    Its been a trend noted for some time.

    But then again you believe in a flat earth.

    • Replies: @Truth
  264. @Truth

    Wrong guess, but not your fault, I guess your scattered brain gets in the way. It’s too complicated for you to understand and I’ve got better things to do than educate you on the subject, scatterbrains señorita.

  265. @Joe Correa

    And the “violent friction” for 100s of years between Muslims and Europeans were also “paid operatives”?

    Straw man much?

    The berber Muslim pirates kidnapping to sexually enslave women and whatever else they got in their raids for centuries was also black propaganda?

    You know, there really should be a rule that when you reply to somebody on a discussion forum, that you actually engage with something the other person really said!

    Otherwise, it just becomes so totally masturbatory.

    Look, the person who has to get a grip is you. It is completely obvious to anybody who looks at the question seriously that this “Tommy Robinson” (name in quotes because it’s not even the guy’s real name) is just some sort of actor playing a role. I previously said that I was 80-90% sure but I was hedging too much. It’s well over a 99% certainty really.

    Since writing the previous comments, I looked a bit more at this guy and the various videos on youtube and the rest of it and this guy is as fake as a six quid note. Really, even people as stupid as you and the other various retards here ought to be able to see that. It’s just too obvious. So, what this is mostly about is your pathetic need to delude yourselves. Frankly, I increasingly suspect that this desperate need to be duped emerges from the same place in the human mind as the passive homosexual’s compulsion to be roughly sodomized. As such, it is probably incurable.

  266. vinteuil says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    There’s something almost charming about your consistent inability to understand what’s staring you in the face.

    • Troll: Jonathan Revusky
  267. vinteuil says:
    @Art Deco

    “….police services who were indolent about just about everything…”

    they weren’t indolent about Martin Sellner, Brittany Pettibone and Lauren Southern.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  268. dfordoom says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter

    Most Catholic priests in the world are not white European people, and this has been true for a long time. So, absent some actual evidence to the contrary, any child molestation or sexual abuse of pre-teens was and is ostensibly committed mostly by non-white priests.

    Most of the sexual abuse by Catholic priests was committed by homosexuals who should never have been admitted to the priesthood in the first place. Throwing open their doors to homosexuals was the huge mistake made by the Catholic Church (and the Anglican Church).

    • Agree: Randal
  269. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jon Baptist

    The end result is honest people, in fear of a lack of security, run to their governments for an increased militarized police force.

    True. There’s no question that governments want people to be afraid. It’s so much easier to set up the apparatus of a police state if you have a fearful population.

    The ideal of course is have the populace both afraid and confused. That makes them nicely demoralised.

  270. @Peter Brimelow

    Why doesn’t vdare.com have online comments?

  271. Bronson says:
    @Realist

    I don’t think you can blame the British people. The British elections are just as corrupt as most other country’s elections: The British people are given the illusion of a choice between wholly owned and operated whores.

    This is the Kalergi-Cloudhoven plan – the ZioJew dream of a “mongrel race” that they will use as a slave race. They are working overtime to destroy all White, Christian nations because they are the last ones that pose any kind of threat to them. The one thing they sincerely fear, however, is IF people begin to recognize who, exactly, the cancer is. Once a serial killer’s name and location is known, he’s not nearly as scary.

    It’s time for the world to recognize who the serial destroyers are – and take care of them.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Realist
  272. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Bronson

    The British elections are just as corrupt as most other country’s elections: The British people are given the illusion of a choice between wholly owned and operated whores.

    The great evil of democracy is that it fosters the delusion that changing the government will make a difference. It won’t. Britain needs regime change, not a change of government. The whole rotten corrupt edifice, starting with Parliament, needs to be swept away.

    But democracy also emasculates. So it’s not likely to happen.

  273. @Jonathan Revusky

    I completely agree. The “what do you take me for” line is difficult to swallow, and hard to imagine he’s unused to spicy food. Most English people are regular consumers of spicy curries. It is an odd situation, as I stated, strange bedfellows indeed. There just wasn’t enough for me to consider who would gain from the set up other than Amin seeking to climb the “respectability” ladder at any cost.

    I’mnot sure what the deep state would have to use against Tommy and it doesn’t seem to have hurt his image much. I can see that there would be risks for Tommy were he exposed as collaborating, some of those in his circles don’t muck around when it comes to spilling blood. It seems more likely to me that he went along to see what Amin had in mind and the recording was made either for self protection or with a view to bringing down Amin. I don’t really know.

    The so-called Conservatives conserve nothing and the Labour Party sold out its supporters almost from the get go, the same in the US with the Dem/Rep duopoly. We are all being strung along with these PR drama exercises. I no longer follow British politics since I haven’t lived there in years.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  274. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Karl

    Not true at all.

    It still happens and in poor countries you can bribe people which is how it happens today.

  275. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sarah Toga

    Sweden is part of the EU, so they definately have taken part of managing the world and thus have invited the world.

  276. Anon[997] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Could you give some evidence that most priests are not whites, and most sexual abuse are committed by non whites?

    In my undersstanding, most priests are predominant whites, and almost all covered abuse cases are committed by whites, especially in whites countries.

    This probably because these white priests weild great influence in whites predominant countries, hence are able to suppress any investigation against them. Whereas in Asia and elsewhere, Catholics & Christians are not overwhelming majority to weild such political influence.

    I attended church since young in Asia, haven’t heard of a single cover up abuse case. It doesn’t means other religions are free from such abuse, except they couldn’t do it rampantly with politcal protection.

  277. Realist says:
    @Bronson

    I don’t think you can blame the British people. The British elections are just as corrupt as most other country’s elections:

    Exactly my point. The electorate of the ‘other countries’ you speak of are also to blame for allowing the corruption….including America.

  278. Cutler says:
    @pyrrhus

    I feel UKistan Is far from finished and the people ( Whites ) are waking up and beginning to take our own side and while it might take time I have full confidence in the British and European People in general to take back control of our nations, Surely it’s when not if. Also a note on demographics which seem to have been overlooked is that while the UK is still majority White ( 87% as of 2011 ) the White birthrate has increased from a low of 69.5% in 2008 up to almost 76% in 2014-15 also European immigration has matched non European immigration or exceeded it these last few years. As Nationalist or Nationalist inspired parties are emerging all over the European world the future could well turn in our favour. Europeans are still the vast majority in all our countries and momentum is on our side

    • Agree: Talha
  279. @NoseytheDuke

    The “what do you take me for” line is difficult to swallow

    Well, it’s just a bunch of banter. It’s Amin, the Pakistani, who orders his curry “as mild as possible” and then when Tommy expresses surprise at this, says: “What do you take me for, a Paki?” My take on it was that, contrary to stereotype, Amin really does prefer his food very mild and then was just cracking a playful joke.

    Well, my whole feeling about this was just the sense of complicity between these two individuals, the chumminess. Anyway, regardless of what exactly happened in this incident, this whole thing where the white racist (allegedly) and the Pakistani ethnic politician are sitting there talking about creating basically a synthetic event to bolster the image of the latter — one really gets the feeling that this is not a one-off. It’s very much part of the whole world of fakery we live in. Well, in this instance, it got taped and the Pakistani politician trying to pull this got taken down, but one gets the feeling that there must be so much synthetic bullshit that they stage.

    I’m not sure what the deep state would have to use against Tommy

    Well, likely “Tommy” is just one of them anyway, some of sort of Intel Agency asset. So he’s basically doing his job. I kinda doubt that it was Tommy’s idea to do this, but maybe he can convince his followers that it was all his idea.

    I was looking at some of the other “Tommy Robinson” videos on youtube and I think a lot of this totally fake, man. There are various videos where he goes to these various so-called “no-go zones” in England and he gets attacked by the Muslims. Not just in England. He goes to Italy and gets attacked with his camera crew. By “violent Muslims”.

    I have to think these things are staged bullshit. I think I or you could go to any of these neighborhoods and just behave normally and we wouldn’t get attacked or anything. I was with Linh Dinh in Marseilles and we went to Felix Pyat, which is supposedly the worst neighborhood in France and nobody did anything to us. Of course, unlike Tommy Robinson, we weren’t trying to provoke anybody, but even then, no guarantees. But this kind of guy goes to whatever neighborhood and always manages to get attacked! “Oh, I just went to this no-go zone Muzzie neighborhood and was minding my own business and these Muslim savages jumped out from nowhere and started attacking me! Oy vey!”

    Oh, a funny thing I noted about “Tommy” is that Tommy is not a big guy. He’s 5 foot 7. I had assumed he was some big strapping lad. I think they may try to avoid photographing or filming him in a context where it is readily apparent what a small guy he is. Well, granted, there are some tough mofos who are 5 foot 7. Bruce Lee was 5 foot 7. Roberto Duran….

    Well, that’s not so important, but I mean, there are so many dead giveaways that this whole thing is just a huge imposture…

  280. @Jon Baptist

    Hopefully, the people that insult you on sites like this will begin to think for themselves

    Well, one can always hope! LOL!

    The more I look at Tommy Robinson, the more I have to laugh. The guy has written two books! Well, one he just co-authored, entitled “Mohammed’s Koran: Why Muslims Kill for Islam.”

    Well, I mean, obviously, this guy never sat down and wrote a book, even low-brow dreck like this. Both books are ghost-written, I assume. But somehow this is part of his constructed persona as an “activist”, that he is a published author, wrote two books… The guy’s a dissident, a public intellectual, a great British thinker, up there with John Locke and David Hume!

    Probably you order it from Amazon and it’s just like: “I hate Pakis, they stink and they make me wanna puke”. Like written 10,000 times in a row or something. “All work and no Muslim bashing makes Tommy a dull boy”. LOL.

    The real imposture in all of this is “Tommy” railing about his “free speech”. As if this clown actually has something to say anyway! Whatever he says was written for him by his handlers surely.

    It’s like talking about the free speech rights of some ventriloquist’s dummy!

  281. Che Guava says:
    @Talha

    Talha,

    I have never hit ‘ignore’ on this site.

    You are right about the cherry blossoms part.

    Did you know most are clones of (grafts from) one genotype? That is why, except for the few other types in some parks and gardens, some streets and riversides, they all are blooming in nearly perfect sync.

    Bad weather, cold snaps and rain, this year will only being so-so.

    The best close place to where I live is too noisy and controlled to enjoying it, anyway, sports teams from the nearby universities, local business associations, they are having no appreciation of the poetry of the falling or soon-to-fall blossoms, just wanting to leave much rubbish behind.

    Will walk there in the day-time.

    Still, hoping to get away to a regional town.

    I was never to saying ‘inbred’ or ‘retarded’ re. you, but, since you are having raised the point, you well know that it is statistically true of both the land of your birth and the would-be invaders from there in England.

    As said before, I have had Pakistani friends, even when almost no money, a roommate in the past, always a good friend, no molestation, am knowing that it *was* not all bad, he was teaching me a very good recipe for curry that I was continuing for years after escaping to a regular flat, but forgetting the timing and some ingredients now. The cooking must be fast and with good timing.

    Also good conversation, but he was not a devout Moslem at all.

    • Replies: @Talha
  282. Talha says:
    @Che Guava

    Hey Che,

    Thanks for that info on the cherry blossoms – I did not know this. Always learning interesting things from people at Unz.com.

    The stuff around Chicago takes a long time to start blooming, the flowers on the trees in front of my house still won’t bloom until April.

    you well know that it is statistically true of both the land of your birth and the would-be invaders from there in England

    Yes – I think the biggest mistakes the West has made in the immigration issue are; 1) the numbers of immigrants brought over and 2) lack of serious screening to make sure they are a reasonable fit.

    Muslims like these men piss me off; idiots go around boozing, taking drugs, frequenting clubs and on top of that assaulting young women. Degenerate fools, the lot of them.

    Also good conversation, but he was not a devout Moslem at all.

    See, we’re not all bad.

  283. Truth says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Well now, Dan-O, you are telling me that there are more non-white, than white priests in Europe, do I have this straight? Because this was the original point.

    And it is “a trend that has been noted for some time? Interesting, well if it is such common knowledge, please, Old Sport, post a link, because as we know, I really don’t keep up.

    And I prefer to refer to it as the, (college level, albeit probably community college), “geocentric earth model.”

    Of course if I am using words to big for the audience, I apologize in advance.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  284. Art Deco says:
    @vinteuil

    True, but would wager a different service had jurisdiction. New York has a capable police force. Baltimore has a ruined one. You’re looking at a city or county force in Telford v. a national point-of-entry inspectorate.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
  285. @Truth

    “Non-white” is uncertain, most of the replacement priests come from Latin America so it depends on how white one considers Latin Americans on a continuum. Nonetheless, this is a well-known trend in Catholic communities.

    In the United States alone, membership in the Church has grown 21 percent since 1985, while the number of priests has fallen off by 15 percent, to approximately 43,300 priests. Europe has seen virtually no growth in membership, and the number of priests there has declined by 11 percent (the sole exception to this trend being Poland, where the priesthood has grown by more than a third)…

    …COMPARISONS WITH less fortunate countries aside, most American Catholics believe there is a priest shortage in the United States and that it is a major problem. In 2003, some 16 percent of U.S. parishes had no resident priest; the number of weekend Masses is down; and bishops increasingly are asking priests to pastor two or more parishes at a time.

    I don’t like Pope Francis very much, but even he spoke directly about this:

    Pope Francis says he is concerned about what he calls a “haemorrhage” of priests and nuns from the Church.

    The Pope on Saturday told participants at a Vatican gathering on religious life that the loss of clergy is weakening the Church.

    First among the factors he cited as causing nuns and priests to quit their vocations is a society that discourages lifelong commitments. Francis lamented that many conduct their lives based on “a la carte” choices.

    He’s advanced nutty ideas since, worth ignoring. But the shortage of priests and thus the effort to shift priests in from places where there still is a number is evident to anyone in the Catholic community, and from simple googling, easily supported.

    The point about family size and lack of “available” children to enter priesthood was something I gathered while interviewing old Quebecois about pre-Quiet Revolution society(one of the most religious and high fertility white societies), but I also found support from Pope Benedict:

    Pope Benedict XVI, when he was Cardinal Ratzinger, identified smaller family size as the cause of the Catholic priest shortage. He opined that required celibacy was not the cause of the problem, which he believes has its roots in shrinking family size and changing family priorities. “If today the average number of children is 1.5″, he reasoned, “the question of possible priests takes on a very different role from what it was in ages when families were considerably larger.” The main obstacle, he argued, was parents “who have very different expectations for their children.

    But again, what’s the point of talking to a flat-earther.

    • Agree: Che Guava
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Truth
  286. Art Deco says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Society may be discouraging lifelong commitments, but that doesn’t excuse the conduct of prelates. The collapse in ordinations began at a discrete point in time -1965. By 2001 in this country, it looked like it was played out. Then you had the one-two punch of the toxic assets in the personnel files coming to light followed by the advent of Frankenchurch. Serious people do not give over their life to silly projects. The post-Vatican II Hallmark Church was a silly project. Frankenchurch is silly-squared.

    You’ll note over the period running from 1965 to 2001 that annual ordinations to the diocesan clergy declined by about 60%. To some extent, that mirrors the decline in Catholic practice generally. Weekly attendance at Mass declined by about 30% in that time in raw numbers. Some functions of the secular clergy could be handed off to the revived diaconate. The Diocese of Syracuse was at one point ordaining about 3 deacons a year at a time when ordinations to the priesthood had declined to 2 a year (on average). However, the Church is slow to put deacons to use and, truth be told, most are in late middle age, most have other work, and most have a modest shelf-life. Ordinations to the priesthood occur at a later age than they once did (37 now v. perhaps 26 back in the day). That’s generally salutary, but it does reduce the lifetime quantum of labor you get out of a priest.

    The condition of the religious orders is nothing sort of catastrophic. Ordinations to the regular priesthood declined by 90% over the period running from 1965 to 2001. The number of women religious taking their final vows fell by about 97% (not sure about orders of men, but would wager similar). The Church over 3 or 4 generations built up an extensive network of educational institutions from primary schools to research universities and none of it can be maintained with available personnel, so it all ends up being staffed by laymen at wretched expense. The instructors and administrators commonly despise an instittution’s historic mission and generate one scandal after another. (See recent controversies at Charlotte Catholic High School and at Providence College).

    Francis will exacerbate these problems without a doubt.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    , @Daniel Chieh
  287. SMK says: • Website
    @pyrrhus

    Imagine if now and in the near future, before Muslims and blacks become the majority in Sweden, France, Germany, the UK, Islamic predators and savages who committed sex crimes against women and girls were punished as harshly as Abigail Simon, Kathryn Ronk, Mary Letourneau, Cassandra Sorenson-Grohall, the teacher in Georgia who was sentenced to 40-years in prison and the woman in Nevada who was sentenced to life in prison, and many others. If so, myriads of sex-crimes (abductions, rapes, gang-rapes, “grooming,” etc., would be prevented and deterred and myriads of women and girls would no be assaulted and brutalized and terrorized.

    In contrast, in the U.S., not a single person of any age and both sexes was or is or will be any safer because of the draconian and Orwellian penalties inflicted on women who have consensual sex with biological men under statutory age. Not one serious crimes has been or well be prevented or deterred by such draconian/Orwellian punishments imposed on first-offenders convicted of nonviolent and victimless and mala prohibita “crimes,” women who’ve never committed a violent or malum in se crime in their lives and never will and are not a “threat to society” or to anyone nor a “danger” to “re-offend” by having sex with another young man under statutory age. It’s possible that not one of these women has re-offended by having sex with a young man under statutory age or by committing a violent or other malum in se crimes while nearly all of the Muslims who’ve committed sex crimes against women and girls In Western Europe, and received indulgent sentences, will re-offend by committing more sexual and nonsexual crimes.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Talha
  288. Art Deco says:
    @SMK

    I haven’t any doubt that sentencing schedules adopted by state legislatures will be bollocks, because most legislators are innumerate. I haven’t any doubt you’ll find a few cases of absurd sentences handed down, because judges are scum. I also haven’t any doubt that males in said circumstances will be treated more harshly as a matter of course. Btw, Mary Kay Letourneau served three months in jail consequent to her initial conviction. She was remanded to the state prison for six years because she was contumacious and began banging her little toy within weeks of her release.

    It’s not draconian to insist under penalty of imprisonment that schoolteachers keep their hands off the jailbait. Giving sex lessons to adolescents is not why we hire them.

    • Agree: Truth
  289. Talha says:
    @SMK

    were punished as harshly as

    Why are you guys cuddling these people? I do not understand you. What the hell? Why are you going to put them in prisons on tax-payer expense.

    Look, I’m a practicing Muslim – and I think we are in agreement; Muslim men should not be anywhere near non-Muslim girls/women (especially native White ones) unless necessary for some kind of business reason; they are buying something at the store, doctor’s visit, giving a taxi ride, etc.

    Enforce a no tolerance policy; if a Muslim gets into anything resembling a sexual relationship with a non-Muslim girl/woman, it equals immediate jail time or public flogging. Second infraction entails stripping you of citizenship and exile.Send them back to Muslim lands where, if they try this crap, Muslims will deal with them.

    I fully support you guys keeping Muslim blokes away from non-Muslim women – 100%. If these guys don’t have the spiritual fortitude to stick to the sacred law, then please feel free to apply the “stick” approach. Trust me, it’s better they get their lumps in this life instead of the next.

    Peace.

  290. Anonymous[385] • Disclaimer says:

    What is the motivation behind the drive to Islamize and destroy Western societies?

    By the way, Turkey’s President Erdogan just announced that Islam will take over Europe through immigration.

    But Turkey is still in NATO and is buddy-buddy with the US.

    This is insanity.

    Many people who read Unz are pro-Turkish. Why?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  291. Truth says:
    @Daniel Chieh

    Well now, I see three responses there, but not one that says that there are more non-white, than white priests in Europe. Maybe I missed something.

    Man, I’m really starting to believe other people about the shape of the earth, if this is your best.

  292. Van Doren says:

    Shortly afterwards Britain entered the European Union, and those British mandarins, to their delight, became globalist apparatchiks, with way bigger expense accounts. They must have had many a laugh with each other, over the champagne and truffles, at how easy it had been.

    Do they really think this will last? As soon as Muslims have the numbers they will vote in their own people, as already happened in London and in other places. The old ruling class will lose power soon enough.

  293. Che Guava says:

    I know that.

    Having had bad experiences overseas, as did friends at the time, even back in Tokyo, I’ve had two bags snatched, both times by pairs of men from vast-majority Moslem places.

    Time as a child, spent much time around Malays. They had a relaxed, even syncretic, form of Islam at the time, although would still use it as a basis for racial abuse (not from my friends), I learnt Malay pretty well, so understood what Malay strangers were saying about other non-Malay people, including me. Much of such talk was based on Islam.

    That has greatly changed. The Malaysian govt. used to run a pretty good Malay food restaurant in the Ginza, took friends there two or three times, there was a running and rotating halal patrol outside, about ten people, all of the women in hijab, making sure that none of the Malay employees there did anything haram.

    So, most of the employees were Malaysian Indians, Chinese, or part-Malay. part-Chinese (remnants of a better time).

    Looking it up on the ‘net, I found the blog of the patrol leader, a woman and rabid extremist. So, there is also that type of Moslem. I would not be at all surprised if she and her group (and connections in Malaysia) were responsible for having it shut down, it was a popular place, good tourism advert., no way unprofitable.

    This is becoming too long, so final point. Saudi and Gulf money. I think you would agree that it has a poisonous effect in the land of your birth.

    It has poisonous effects everywhere.

    Too long, so closing there.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Talha
  294. Talha says:
    @Che Guava

    Much of such talk was based on Islam.

    People always find a way to make fun of the odd-man-out. In my case growing up in the US in the 80s and 90s, I was called all sorts of things and made fun of for being a Muslim. The majority of people were always respectful, but some were jerks – human nature being what it is.

    Saudi and Gulf money.

    The Saudis have done extensive damage to both understanding of Islamic doctrine as well as the image of Islam across the world. Talk to the average Muslim who is not a Salafi-Wahhabi and they’ll tell you what they think. I don’t know a single person who has a positive view of them.

    One of the more insidious programs they have had (which Shaykhs Nuh Keller and Hamza Yusuf mentioned) is that they have bought some of the major publishing houses in the Muslim world. They are then printing new editions of classic works of Islamic theology, doctrine, practice, etc. while removing sections that don’t agree with their outlook. Very, very sinister. That’s not even mentioning what they’ve done to the ancient holy places of Islam; wiping out landmarks that stood for centuries that were honored by multiple Muslim caliphates of various stripes.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  295. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    What is the motivation behind the drive to Islamize and destroy Western societies?

    I don’t think it’s a drive to Islamize the West. The intention is rather to destroy the last vestiges of Christianity and to destroy them so completely that Christianity can never rise again.

    It seems absurd to worry so much about a dead religion but there are many powerful groups whose hatred for (and paranoid fear of) Christianity is irrational to the point of being unhinged. It’s not just Jews. Militant atheists, extreme advocates of the homosexual agenda and militant feminists all share the same deep hatred for Christianity. And they all share with liberal Jews a hatred for western civilisation.

    The corporate world also dislikes Christianity. It offers people an alternative to consumerism and the corporate sector doesn’t like that.

    • Agree: Truth
  296. Floda says:

    I see only one way of solving this: Give all Muslims in the country the means to leave voluntarily. If they don’t, round them up and evict them at gunpoint. Those who resist kill then deport (read dump) their wives and offspring to the shitholes they came from. Use whatever military force required, ethnic cleansing on steroids.

    To do this would first require a state of total civil war. How to initiate one I cannot say, but if what is described in the Mirror doesn’t get the British male’s back up I don’t know what will and then, God help young White women and girls in future.

    I firmly believe this will happen, it has to, not only in Britain but in all Europe and the Western nations with large Muslim populations. These are utterly incompatible with our people and if we don’t get rid of them they’ll do to us exactly what Blacks are doing to Whites in South Africa right now.

    To those who say, what about Britain’s reputation, its relationships with its trading partners, I say don’t worry about it, as they will be doing the same thing and may well have started doing this before the revolt in Britain. I’m thinking Germany, Italy and France, probably in that order. I also think eventually European military will be in Sweden and elsewhere to help clean house.

    While this going on take some Patriots and form a group to round up those responsible for the attempted destruction of Britain’s once calm and civilized society. Look for them in Government, former and present, in the Media and don’t forget the Clergy or the shadowy insiders, advisors, consultants all who colluded to bring this about.

    Deal with them.

  297. Che Guava says:
    @Talha

    I have read in detail of the al-Saud (Wahhab) destruction of inportant sites and objects, some pre-Islam, many later, the destruction of Khadijah’s house among many crimes against cultural heritage.

    Of course, I am not allowed to visit Mecca, unless I am lying, but photographs are readily available for viewing. To me, it is looking like a bad theme park, with luxury hotels. The clock tower is especially ugly.

    Thx for the detailed reply, will reading yr post again tomorrow, tomorrow is work for me, so closing here now.

    • Replies: @Talha
  298. Talha says:
    @Che Guava

    Of course, I am not allowed to visit Mecca

    Yes, this is part of the problem with the fact that the Saudis now have sovereignty over the area. Had the Turks been able to retain control, something could have been negotiated. The only thing non-Muslims are not allowed to participate in, according to Hanafi school, is the Hajj and Umrah:
    “Abu Hanifa’s opinion was that non-Muslims can enter Mecca and even the Sacred Mosque [haram], as long as they do not do so for the sake of the pilgrimage [hajj or umra], which they are not allowed to perform. This is the opinion of the Hanafi school of law, which historically up to today has been the largest juridical school of Islam. Other schools of thought, however, differed on the legal ruling.”

    http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2010/10/20/are-non-muslims-allowed-to-enter-mecca-and-the-sacred-mosque-haram/

    http://islamqa.org/hanafi/askimam/17535

    To me, it is looking like a bad theme park, with luxury hotels. The clock tower is especially ugly.

    Yeah – the development there has been pretty horrendous. I wouldn’t have minded if they built a bunch of stuff away from the center of the city and then had high-speed rail to shuttle people back and forth, but the Saudis wanted to bring that ugliness smack dab into the middle of it. The Ottomans had a much better aesthetic; the green dome that they built in Madinah (over the grave of the Prophet [pbuh]) is still a beloved landmark throughout the Muslim world.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  299. JD has a sly dig at the Scots again (- the link about Hadrian’s Wall) – it seems he can’t help himself – he must like us!

    We tremble at the superiority of the “130 IQ” you boast about on your CV homepage – you seem to be trying too hard – still upset at not getting into Oxbridge – “I coulda been a contender” and all that? A man like you, who even taught “visual basic” at a college – maybe Hawking went up that year and took your place – yeah, that was it!

    There are significant numbers of Scots with IQs 2 SIGMAS above your own, you intellectual pygmy – and when we go independent we will laugh at merry olde England sliding into its self chosen multicultural 3rd world shitehole status – the pound no longer backed by the oil and the City’s scams moved to Paris, Frankfurt and Edinburgh – we will cut the rope to see you fall and laugh as we do so. We invented the modern world and will build an even better one.

    The Roman Wall was designed to keep the English in their pens, so their Roman masters could CUCK the shit out of them … same as it ever was … but now the Pakis are the new CUCK-masters. Enjoy your caliphate!

    Scotland, 96% white, 4% asian, assimilated, non-jihadist – English refugees not welcome, even if they are “white”.

    And stop referring to the “Scotch-Irish” – they are actually called “Huns”.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  300. Vinteuil says:
    @Art Deco

    Wow.

    It’s all so sad.

    I teach philosophy, mostly ethical theory, as an adjunct, at a Jesuit University.

    When I teach Aquinas on sexual morality, I am very, very cautious.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  301. Vinteuil says:
    @Art Deco

    Wow, Art Deco.

    I’ve tried so, so hard to think well of you.

  302. Che Guava says:
    @Talha

    You seem a decent person. As our exchange demonstrates.

    Didn’t the Saudis also destroy the tomb of Mo?

    In the end, Confucius, Laocius, the Buddha, Jesus
    Chrestos, Zoroaster, (could continue), none were trying to set up their own kingdoms in the temporal world.

    That is what Mohammed did, through theft and rapine, in his own lifetime.

    I would guess that you will never changing your mind.

    That is raising the question, ‘why were you leaving Pakistan?’ Why living in the USA? Surely Pakistan is more to ynur preference?

    If you are loving an Islamic system so much, why moving from a place where it is in place to one where it is not?

    • Replies: @Talha
  303. Che Guava says:
    @CalgacusWallace

    You are full of crap, as SNP, they are wanting mass-immigration. They are not caring aaout the people. ‘National Party’, what a joke.

  304. Talha says:
    @Che Guava

    Didn’t the Saudis also destroy the tomb of Mo?

    Not that I know of; I did read once they tried to use the green dome for target practice or something, but they were horrible shots. Unfortunately, I can’t remember my reference for that.

    none were trying to set up their own kingdoms in the temporal world.

    Correct, which is why we 100% support the followers of these religions to live by their ideals and disband their armies and navies and do away with their national sovereignty – that way we don’t dismiss this kind of thing as hypocritical virtue-signalling.

    That is raising the question, ‘why were you leaving Pakistan?’ Why living in the USA?

    Little 6 year-old Pakistani boys are generally not consulted by their fathers as to which country their family should move to. I would have likely vetoed it because I was losing all my neighborhood friends, especially the kid who lived across from me named Asim who was my best friend – I still remember what he looked like. And his older sister – since I had a puppy-love crush on her with her blond/brown hair and hazel eyes.

    If you are loving an Islamic system so much, why moving from a place where it is in place to one where it is not?

    I like it in the US – I can practice freely. And my wife, who is a native-born White convert, considers the US her homeland. I have plans to move if things just start turning sour in the US (either by hostility towards Muslims or if my kids start going off-track); right now, things are (thank God) going well.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
    , @Dissident
  305. Che Guava says:

    Ok, leaving it at that. Excuse my (natural) assumption that you were in the U.S.A. of your choice.

    My own parents were far too mobile, so I am knowing exactly what you are meaning about Asim and his sis. I have near-precise parallels, except from time overseas, not at home.

    • Agree: Talha
  306. Che Guava says:
    @Talha

    Al-Saud *had* been planning to destroy tomb of Mo, in 2014, so I was assuming they did, but no!

    Maybe the ‘King’s’ ill-health then death put the stop to the plan.

    Look it up, many hits. As if al-Saud have not destroyed enough, but is seeming they were stopping just before that.

    Anyhoo, since Mo was supposed to have ascended to paradise on a winged donkey, what is said to be entombed there (question from afterthought)?

    As the side-finding, the green paint on the dome is only recent, almost mid-19th cent.

    • Replies: @Talha
  307. @Art Deco

    Thank you for the additional information, kind sir.

  308. Talha says:
    @Che Guava

    He ascended and came back after being given instructions for prayer.

    He is buried there in Madinah along with the first two caliphs.

    Yes, the Ottomans had control of the Hijaz for a very long time until around the 20th century.

    Nobody can destroy the grave – it is Divinely protected.

    Peace.

  309. Che Guava says:
    @Talha

    ‘Our women’; again, you exhibit the poison behind the polite mask. Your wife, as you are saying, a convert. IMHO, a fool, anyone can track back to Talha’s post here to view the disgusting mentality.

    • Replies: @Talha
  310. Talha says:
    @Che Guava

    Yes, our women – stay away from them. Let your women run free and do what they please with everyone they want and see what happens.

  311. Anonymous[176] • Disclaimer says:

    Disturbing as this is, it must be acknowledged that the British people did this to themselves by electing — time and time again — politicians who had no respect for them or for their rights. In the end, they’ve no one to blame but themselves.

    And. if we Americans continue to elect politicians who are no better, we’ll have no one to blame but ourselves.

  312. @mark3383

    If the English get the war they are seeking with Russia I hope Putin glasses the rainy little Island. The world would be safer.
    I say that as an Englishman.

  313. Kolo says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Correct
    Thanks for correcting the brainwashed dumb indian

  314. Kolo says:
    @Anon

    Excellent post
    Wally is a retard

  315. @Sarah Toga

    I see your reasoning . . . the EU bureaucrats essentially take control from Brussels. No matter whether the EU member is for or against “X” policy.

    At least an invading military would have the honesty to wear uniforms, shoot guns, and announce a declaration of war upon their target nation.

  316. Kat Grey says:

    The rot began during WWII. While brave Tommies were fighting for their King and Country on the Continent, being blown to bits on Normandy beaches, starving in hellish Japanese POW camps or firebombing their fellow white German cousins, what were their faithful womenfolk doing back on the Home Front? Dropping their saggy grey knickers and sexually betraying their gallant husbands and boyfriends with Black American GIs and creating the first generation of mulattos. Incidentally mixed race has become the fastest growing ethnicity in the multicultural UK. Now we are seeing for the first time in its history, indigenous white English people are a MINORITY in their capital city. And not even raising an eyebrow much less a fist when the BBC and Guardian crow in jubilant celebration at the demographic vanquishing of the hated White,Anglo Saxon.

    • Agree: Sarah Toga
  317. MSM gloating about the year the USA becomes minority White is what woke me up from my stupid comfort zone.

    The two world wars were just white genocide. In part, they were the result of the existing level of multi-culturalism across Europe.

    When earlier generations of American leaders made the decision to emphasize NW Europe and Britain for immigrants, they were quite wise to aim for compatibility. Even with those groups, so-called assimilation was not easy.
    The 1924 halt to immigration was very wise in that it recognized the limits of immigration and assimilation had been reached.

    The 1965 rabid free-for-all immigration law was destined to destroy, to create conflict. I believe it was intended to destroy.

  318. Dissident says:
    @Talha

    (Apologies for coming so late to the discussion.)

    Those young, bearded fanatics are really something else – very difficult to engage or reason with.

    Talha, this comment of yours has me wondering: do you consider all Muslims who consider wearing a beard to be part of Islamic observance to be “fanatics”?

    And if you do, is it that you consider said belief, in and of itself, to be fanatical? Or is it, rather, that you find all (or at least a sufficiently large majority) of those who hold/practice said belief to be “fanatics” for other reasons? (But are more or less agnostic about the beard-wearing itself.)

    I am sincerely curious and intend no hostility or disrespect.

  319. Dissident says:
    @Truth

    Well, “Truth”, perhaps you’d care to explain why, apparently in your mind and those of your supporters here, it’s okay for you to make a joke like this, along with the statement (in comment #27),

    “it seems that buggering one’s children, neices [sic], nephews and young pupils, is as British as Bangers and Mash.”

    ,

    but for someone to cite actual statistics for violence and other dysfunction and anti-social behavior for blacks or other non-whites* would be “racist”, “bigoted” and “hateful”?

    Surely, there must be some reasonable explanation for this seeming glaring double-standard.

    And, Talha, did you actually intend to publicly applaud this rather lurid anti-(white)-British joke of “Truth”s? Perhaps the “LOL” attributed to you here is the result of your fingers having slipped or some other glitch? If not and you really intended it, then I must say that I am most disappointed in you. Would you be laughing if such a joke were made at the expense of Muslims and/or whatever ethnicity or nationality you identify with?

    *I don’t know whether or not “Truth” thinks of Jews as whites but regardless, what I’ve seen of his comments leaves me with little doubt that he does consider Jews fair game for excessive, rabid, indiscriminate, blanket condemnation, contumely and vitriol at least no less than he does (non-Jewish) whites.
    (For the record, my own view is that somewhere between the absurdity of “Jews can do no right and are the root and source of all evil and ills in the world” and the (at last near-)mirror absurdity of “Jews can do no wrong…” (or at least close to that) lies a range of sane, reasonable ground. I neither consider it unreasonable for gentiles to be wary of Jews nor for Jews to be wary of gentiles– with the qualifiers, in both cases, of within reason; within certain boundaries; and at least to a degree. And, finally, full-disclosure: I am a Jew.)

  320. Dissident says:
    @Talha

    (Picking-up on a tangent…)

    Little 6 year-old Pakistani boys are generally not consulted by their fathers as to which country their family should move to. I would have likely vetoed it because I was losing all my neighborhood friends, especially the kid who lived across from me named Asim who was my best friend – I still remember what he looked like. And his older sister – since I had a puppy-love crush on her with her blond/brown hair and hazel eyes.

    Thanks for sharing those memories, Talha. When I was a year or two older than that (i.e., seven or eight), I found myself mesmerized by a girl in my class. I was absolutely smitten by what I recall as her stunning, exquisite beauty. I remember telling my grandfather how, after thinking the matter through, I could at arrive at no other conclusion than “it all adds-up to love” or something to that effect. Where that wistfully innocent romance might have ultimately led, I will never know. For I did not finish the year at that school. A causality of what my parents described as a vindictive principal whose wrath had somehow been aroused by their involvement in an ugly conflict that had developed, I was expelled. To this day, I still have this mental image of the scowling face of that female principal as she lashed-out at me. For what? I certainly cannot recall now, if I ever really knew. What a contrast to the other image that remains in my memory from that time: that of the pristine countenance of my young female classmate that so allured me.

    I am also reminded of a story I heard the late radio raconteur Jean Shepherd tell of his infatuation with a female peer when he was, like you at the time of what you recounted, a mere lad of six years.

    Posts like this one of yours, that tell of personal life experience, are a considerable part of what makes it all-too easy to spend countless hours engrossed in comment threads on this site.

    I have plans to move if things just start turning sour in the US (either by hostility towards Muslims or if my kids start going off-track); right now, things are (thank God) going well.

    I hope they will continue to go well for you, in both areas.

  321. Weyyar says:

    Being invaded and occupied by Islam was always a nagging English fear throughout most of the last 1200 years. The fear was real as Islam was militarily powerful and expanding. Being invaded by Muslims would most likely entail widespread rape and abuse of females and having the wealth sucked out of the nation.

    By the 1800s, Europe was more powerful than the Muslim world – militarily, economically and in technology and knowledge. By the 1900s, Europe could wipe Islam off the earth forever.

    The irony is that today Britain actively invites unarmed , low IQ, inbred, primitive, savage Muslims to occupy their land , consume their resources and rape their children.

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