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Headliner of the week was the Muslim terrorist attack on a pop concert in Manchester, England. The bomber blew himself up and took 22 others with him. That’s the count as I go to tape here; over a hundred were injured, some critically, so the death count may be higher as you hear this.

The bomber was a 22-year-old Muslim, name of Salman Abedi, born in Britain to parents from Libya. Those parents had been settled in England as refugees from Colonel Gaddafy’s government; so that’s where the bomber was born, in England, 1994.

In 2011, you’ll recall, Barack Obama, prompted by the Three Horsegirls of the ApocalypseSamantha Power of Obama’s National Security Council, his U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, and his Secretary of State Hillary Clinton—who in turn were prompted by Britain and France, with an assist from George Soro s—overthrew Colonel Gaddafy.

Salman Abedi’s parents thereupon, in 2011, returned to Libya. Salman Abedi, then 17, stayed in the U.K.

So I’ll just pause to note here that this is yet another case of absimilation. Here yet again is the relevant passage from We Are Doomed, the one book you need to explain the modern world. Chapter 10, edited quote:

The English word “assimilation” derives from the Latin prefix ad-, which indicates a moving towards something, and the same language’s verb simulare, “to cause a person or thing to resemble another.” You can make a precisely opposite word using the prefix ab-, which marks a moving away from something. Many immigrants of course assimilate to American society … Many others, however, especially in the second and following generations, absimilate.

That’s what Salman Abedi did: He absimilated, ending up hating the country that had taken in his parents.

It wasn’t just him, either. His younger brother Hashim, 20 years old, and so presumably also born in England, seems to have been an accomplice to the bombing. He was arrested by authorities in Libya on Tuesday. There’s also a slightly older brother, 23-year-old Ismail, arrested by British police in Manchester, also on Tuesday.

The father has been arrested, too, also in Libya. The authorities there say he belongs to an extremist sect of Islam.

There’s also a sister, 18-year-old Jomana Abedi, also born in Manchester, where she is studying molecular biology with a view to advancing cancer research … No, sorry, I got my news stories mixed up there. Ms. Abedi actually works at a mosque, though I haven’t been able to discover what she does there. Perhaps she’s the hat-check girl, I don’t know.

Whatever: She told the Wall Street Journal that her brother Salman, the bomber, was a “kind” and “loving” person. [Manchester Bomber Believed Muslims Were Mistreated, Sought Revenge, WSJ, May 25, 2017] Forty-eight hours after the bombing she posted some Arabic verses on her Facebook page congratulating her brother on having entered Paradise. [Sister of Manchester suicide bomber posts prayer about ‘entering Paradise’ days after evil brother slaughters 22 innocents, By Stephen Jones, Mirror (UK)May 25, 2017]

So it looks like this whole born-in-Britain family absimilated. Instead of learning to play cricket, quote Tennyson, and enjoy a nice treacle tart, they dream of killing infidels and going to Paradise thereby.

And there’s plenty more where they came from. There’s a whole Libyan “community” in Manchester. I can’t find out how many are there, but there are close to 20,000 Libyans in the U.K. and this Manchester community is one of the biggest, so I’m guessing it’s well into four digits.

How many of those thousands have assimilated, versus how many have absimilated, is not known to me, or probably to anyone.

What does one say about a story like this? What, to be personal, do I say as a commenter who grew up in England before the place was destroyed by mass immigration?

ORDER IT NOW

Until astonishingly recently it was the common opinion among English people that the worst disaster that could befall a nation was invasion and occupation by foreigners. This opinion was, of course, disgracefully nativist and xenophobic, if not actually racist. But it was what all English people believed in the darkness of their ignorance and the arrogance of their selfish pride in the dark, ignorant times just forty or fifty years ago.

They fortified that belief with the smug recollection that England had not in fact been invaded and occupied for several centuries. The last time it had happened was the year 1066, the year of the Norman Conquest.

There was a whole genre of literature showing noble Anglo-Saxons battling against cruel, arrogant Normans, including one real literary masterpiece: Sir Walter Scott’s 1819 novel Ivanhoe. For us early-Boomer English brats, TV and movie actor Sir Roger Moore, who died of cancer on Tuesday aged 89, will always be, not Cold War spy James Bond whom he played in seven movies from 1973 to 1985, but Ivanhoe, in the TV drama of that name that ran for two seasons in the late 1950s on one of Britain’s TV channels, which at that time numbered…two.

Ivanhoe is sorely needed now.

So the first thing I want to say is: Please don’t let this country, the U.S.A., be similarly destroyed. That’s why I write for VDARE.com, an immigration-restrictionist outlet. Signs of the madness that destroyed England are plenty visible here, too.

Unlike the English, though, we still have freedom of speech; and white liberal guilt here is focused mainly on our own native blacks, not on disgruntled inhabitants of an old empire across the seas—inhabitants of what formerly were British colonies and are now, since the Brits left, failed states sunk in poverty and disorder.

So we, America, can still turn the tide. I wouldn’t say that about England, nor about Britain as a whole, unless the Welsh and the Scots assert themselves forcefully as nations, which I see no sign of.

I think England’s too far gone. If the tide can be turned over there, it will be turned only with blood.

Saying that of course brings to mind Yeats’ famous poem The Second Coming:

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere

The ceremony of innocence is drowned;

The best lack all conviction, while the worst

Are full of passionate intensity.

The ceremony of innocence was certainly drowned in Monday night’s bombing. The dead included pre-teen children, the youngest only eight. And the bomber is in Paradise, according to his sister, and no doubt also to many millions who think as she does, including thousands of British-born Muslims.

And yes, indeed, “the best lack all conviction.” The best here are the ordinary people of England: mild-mannered, good-natured, hospitable people who know—who have always known—what a catastrophe mass Third World immigration is, but who have lacked the collective conviction to resist browbeating by multiculturalist elites.

And yes, also, “the worst are full of passionate intensity.” Their passion is directed against their own fellow citizens. Their passion is for a radical change of their nation: not merely a change of manners, style, or politics, but an actual change to the population, swamping native English people with millions of foreigners from utterly different cultures.

That passion was on display after the Manchester Massacre in The Guardian, formerly The Manchester Guardian, a broadsheet British newspaper that takes the lead in promoting multiculturalism and Open Borders, while insulting and belittling native British Badwhites.

Here are some sample quotes from that Tuesday editorial in The Guardian. [The Guardian view on reacting to terror: be Manchester] Sample One, warning readers against xenophobia:

As a country we must resist the idea that we should give in to our deepest fears. A British-born man is said to be behind this heinous act.

You see, it’s nothing to do with foreigners! The bomber was British! As British as Yorkshire pudding! Nothing to do with immigration!

Sample Two:

Terrorists can kill and maim. But they do not pose an existential threat to our nation.

That’s sort-of true; though it will cease to be true if these lunatics get their hands on a nuke. Until that happens—which one day it will—yes, it is true: terrorism is not an existential threat.

Mass Third World immigration is an existential threat, though. Whole districts of Britain’s cities and towns have been completely taken over—colonized—by people utterly alien to Britain’s history and culture. That is an existential threat.

Sample Three:

We could win over the confidence of marginalised communities by cracking down on hate speech and crimes. Incendiary comments deliberately designed to inflame fraught situations should be investigated.

My emphasis. The phrase “hate speech” of course refers to anything that opposes demographic replacement. There need to be more restrictions on dissident speech, more prosecutions for thoughtcrime, says the Guardian.

The Brits have already lost many of their freedoms so that the multiculturalist project can be advanced: the message from the Guardian editorialists is that they need to lose still more.

ORDER IT NOW

The Guardian, the voice of Goodwhite orthodoxy, is barking at England’s Badwhites that they’d better not even think of deducing from the Manchester bombing that there is anything wrong with mass Third World immigration. Or, if they dare to think it, that they had better not give voice to their thoughts. That, the Guardian wants Badwhites to know, would be “hate speech,” that “should be investigated.”

Please, please, don’t let this happen here in America.

There are mighty forces striving to make it happen; but we can still turn the tide, before it becomes blood-dimmed.

There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for your time and attention, and best wishes to all for warm family gatherings with appropriately somber reflections on Memorial Day.

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He’s had two books published by VDARE.com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and From the Dissident Right II: Essays 2013. His writings are archived at JohnDerbyshire.com.

(Republished from VDare.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn’t about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

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    • Replies: @German_reader

    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.
     
    That's an idiotic statement. I agree that Ariana Grande is a degenerate slut, and the kind of toxic, decadent songs she's singing should perhaps even be banned. Certainly it's somewhat disturbing that even children are attending her concerts. But still, that can't justify Islamist savages maiming and killing those misguided children and teens. If you're on the side of the Islamists, you're simply a traitor.
    , @syonredux
    Sorry, dear fellow, afraid that I cannot concur. However degenerate the event, I cannot condone the murder of young European girls.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Your comment is a summary of the message of Michel Houellebec's novel Soumission. In the case of Islam, the cure is worse than the disease. We need to keep the Muslims out of it, and straighten up our societal mess ourselves.
    , @Randal
    I think I've absimilated, and I don't have any known non-English ancestors at all, going back several centuries.
    , @Jim Christian
    Nice takes, Anon. Slutty little girls make for more. Every generation since the eighties and Madonna has a group of sluts sluttier and more depraved than the one before. And, Awkwafina should be careful what she wishes for. Female-centric/loaded casting in movies has been a rather large bust so far. Hmmm, Chinese and Korean mix, this broad. Proof positive that immigration from North Korea into China works. And so to avoid war, CHINA can handle their client that poses such a "problem" for the U.S..
    , @unit472
    No doubt the murderer Abedi chose his target well. Western pop culture threatens Islam a helluva of a lot more than democracy or capitalism. It is assimilative and transcends race and national borders. Its not possible to put this genie back in the bottle. That battle was lost with Elvis and the Beatles. Today we have terrorists who, before they donned their bomb vests, were aspiring rappers. I was flabbergasted watching the TV show 'Snapped". It featured an Afghan girl in Southern California who became a meth freak, topless dancer and then murdered her mother when she objected to her daughter's lifestyle.

    If I ran the CIA I would put my efforts into creating an Islamic Ariana Grande or forming some 'boy group' Saudi tweens would go crazy over. Let the devout Muslim mom and dad experience the 'generation gap'.

    , @Corvinus
    "If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing."

    Exactly what I thought. Justify the murder of people because you oppose the ways they express themselves culturally. Listen, why don't YOU man up and actually do something about the situation rather than be an armchair warrior?
    , @Che Guava
    You may be right about Ariana Grande's shows.

    I have no idea of her songs. They are likely crap, as you say.

    Checking some photos of her and her fans, it is obvious that both her style and fans were a key in target selection.

    You are a moron to compare that sleaze to the murderer.

    In the few photos I viewed, she is clearly wearing tights, so not near-nude, as she would like to project.

    Your comment is moronic, comparison is evil.
    , @Erik Sieven
    in the german media there was a lot of talk about how muslims now aim at children. Children were actually murdered, which is a special level of evil. But I could imagine that in the eyes of somebody with a more conservative upbringing, like the muslim terrorist probably had, this concert didn´t look at all like a children´s event, but rather like something between Christopher Street day and a Strip Club. That´s no justification at all, but maybe the terrorist did not especially aim at children.
    , @MBlanc46
    That's a bit strong. It's certainly the case that the pop cultural masses are implicated in the degradation and degeneration of Western society. But they're mostly just useful idiots, at least, in their ignorance, sinned against as much as sinning. I shed few tears for them. But their complicity doesn't in the least lessen my animosity toward their murderers. Or toward the elites who visit their murderers upon us.
    , @lavoisier
    Yes they are brain dead degenerates slutting around for money. But that does not mean they deserve to be blown up and dismembered by Muslim fanatics with a fetish for explosives .

    My God man get a grip.
    , @truthtellerAryan
    Hi Anon
    Why? I seem to agree with you totally . Decadence has become our culture, I've seen young girls that look no more than twelve years of age, accompanied by parents, dressed as if they're going to or just came out of brothels. Is this what we call "Western civilization"?
    , @syonredux
    And, of course, Muslims do not confine their killing to concert-goers:


    Dozens dead as gunmen attack bus of Coptic Christians in Egypt

    At least 28 people, including many children, were massacred in Egypt on Friday when gunmen ambushed groups of Egyptian Christians traveling along a desert road towards a remote monastery.

    The killers lay in wait in the desert outside the city of Minya and slaughtered the occupants of at three different vehicles as they drove towards the monastery of St Samuel the Confessor.

    The masked gunmen sprayed bullets into a minibus carrying children from a church group, killing at least six of them, according to Egyptian media. Christian activists said the attackers also boarded a bus and killed the men before robbing the women of their jewelry and phones and leaving Islamist leaflets among the bodies.

     

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/dozens-dead-gunmen-attack-bus-coptic-christians-egypt/
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  2. Mark Caplan says: • Website

    In just one short lifespan, the British took the greatest patrimony in the history of the human race and flushed it down the Thames.

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  3. @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    That’s an idiotic statement. I agree that Ariana Grande is a degenerate slut, and the kind of toxic, decadent songs she’s singing should perhaps even be banned. Certainly it’s somewhat disturbing that even children are attending her concerts. But still, that can’t justify Islamist savages maiming and killing those misguided children and teens. If you’re on the side of the Islamists, you’re simply a traitor.

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    • Agree: Z-man, syonredux
    • Replies: @Kyle a
    who said anything about being a traitor? His point, obviously lost in translation and going far beyond your Germanic comprehension, .. we've creat d this mess ourselves. We can blame sand crickets all we want, but the bottom line....we're to blame, or more importantly, those we've entrusted with our lives are to blame. What the hell were we thinking.
    , @MBlanc46
    I wouldn't call Anon a traitor, but he does seem to be letting his justifiable anger get the better of him. If we ever succeed in getting control of our countries again and expel the foreign invaders, dealing with vermin such as Ariana Grande will merely be part of the mopping up.
  4. Cyrano says:

    The west has two faces in regards to the middle east. One is kind, welcoming and accepting refugees and immigrants from the ME. The other face of the west is also supposedly kind – it goes to Muslim counties and helps them get rid of dictators – although nobody asked them to, but I guess kindness cannot be contained. Unfortunately, in the process of helping them reach the pinnacle of human achievement – democracy – the west wrecks country after country in the ME. My point is that both faces of the west are phony. You can’t be kind and cruel at the same time. It just doesn’t work that way. One overrides the other and can’t be counterbalanced by phoniness.

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    • Agree: truthtellerAryan, Druid
    • Replies: @annamaria
    " You can’t be kind and cruel at the same time."

    The west has never had any desire to bring democracy to the Middle East (that was a normative lying by the bloody Clinton et al). Look at the ongoing romance between western countries and Saudis and Qatari. As for the policies of western countries, they are not necessarily in these countries' interests. For instance, "having ISIS in power in Damascus would actually be something that the Israelis want." This statement is easily supported by public pronouncements of Israeli brass.
    Or this, " the US unleashed ISIS and now can’t control them." The ISIS was actually birthed by the US-created Al Qaeda.
    https://solari.com/00archive/web/solarireports/2017/sr20170427_Saker.pdf

    What else should we expect from a country that lets Condi, Wolfi, and Cheney wander around without a tight supervision, while concocting illegitimate convictions against Assange, a courageous journalist and whistleblower? Condi, Wolfi, and Cheney (and Obama and Hillary) are major war criminals and enemies of humanity at large. Their supposedly humanitarian concerns ("kindness") have been always, and without exception, the profiteering schemes.

    , @Diversity Heretic
    I suppose with oil at stake the West can't adopt the genuine face of complete indifference (Muslims stay where you are, solve your own problems, or don't, peacefully, or not) but it's sure the one I'd like to see. I genuinely have no interest in who kills whom, or who governs whom in any of these countries.
    , @truthtellerAryan
    Hi Cyrano, point well taken. But we don't go to ME to take out dictators. We simply get rid of the ones we don't like and make sure we kill as many as we can, destroy the lives of those we haven't killed, and demolish the whole place. Just because we can do it, with orders from you know who.........
    , @unpc downunder
    The West isn't going to the Middle East to get rid of dictators, there is no talk of getting rid of the dictatorships in Saudi Arabia and Qatar. It's interfering in the Middle East to get rid of nationalists.

    Nationalism is dying in the Middle East and western liberal globalists are determined to put the final nail in the coffin. Ironically, nationalists like Assad, which the West wants to get rid of, are the most authentic moderate Muslims. Hence, liberal globalists refuse to acknowledge that by getting rid of nationalists they are making the Middle East more religious and less liberal.

    What liberals mean by a moderate Muslim, is a Muslim who waters down his Islamic beliefs with some globalist liberal beliefs. However, a genuine liberal Muslim is about as rare as a black Republican, and no amount of outreach is going to change that.
    , @Old Codger
    REFUGEES??? WTF?

    They are not sending their poor huddled masses yearning to be free. They're sending young military-aged men who immediately go on government dole, while using their idle time to become immersed in ISIS propaganda and dream of meeting their 72 virgins, after doing their best to rape and pillage as many of our virgins as they can get away with!

    Stop this madness! No more "refugees" from the ME at all! Let these men protect their own primitive culture and tribesmen, right there in the ME. Far, far from the civilized West, with which they do not choose to assimilate and likely could not....having in-bred low IQs, anyway.

  5. syonredux says:

    RE: ” absimilation,”

    I favor the Eddie Rickenbacker test. When the USA declared war on Germany in 1917, Rickenbacker, the son of Swiss-German immigrants, didn’t go “Pan-German” and blow up a crowd of Americans. No, he enlisted in the army and fought the Germans in the air as a pilot:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker

    This Libyan fellow failed the test.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Rickenbacker murdered Germans for no good reason, in a conflict that clearly was none of america's business and clearly posed no threat to the USA at all. Sad that he felt that he had to do that to be a real American.

    But we might agree that islam makes its adherents inherently incapable of being loyal to a host nation/culture or trustworthy to nonMuslim people in a pinch.
    , @Daniel H
    Herman Goering's nephew enlisted in the US Army Air force and bombed the s**t out of Germany, and did it with gusto. I think his only requested deferral was to not have to bomb either Cologne or Hamburg, because that is where his grandmother was from.

    William Patrick Hitler, Adolph Hitler's half Irish nephew enlisted in the US Navy after personally pleading to F.D.R that he be permitted the honor of serving. He served with distinction.
    , @Jaime
    Well, Americans were not in Germany bombing the place to smitherens before the war. It is funny how the author thinks -as most westerners do- that history began last Monday. Very conveniently he forgets the long history of criminal enterprises called colonialism -something England excelled at. It is no doubt unfortunate the innocent -especially children- have to pay the consequences of some countries' crimninal actions, but so many children die every day in the Middle East as a result of western bombs and nobody bats an eye. These children's lives are also valuable, at least for those in the fringes of the Empire.
  6. syonredux says:
    @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    Sorry, dear fellow, afraid that I cannot concur. However degenerate the event, I cannot condone the murder of young European girls.

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  7. Swing says:

    And the bombing of Libya has nothing to do with it. Stop killing Muslims, and they will stop killing u. U killmy brother, I kill yours, u kill my kids I kill yours, simple logic.

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    • Agree: Mark Green, L.K
    • Replies: @biz
    Except that the legitimate grievance (tm) hypothesis of Islamic terror does not fit the data.

    For one thing, Islamists are committing as much or even more terror against non-Western targets than Western ones, against peoples who by no stretch of the imagination (even the Unz imagination!) could be seen to have anything to do with Western countries 'meddling' in the Middle East. There is an ongoing Islamist terror insurgency in the south of Thailand, and the Philippines, both with countless unspeakable atrocities, including against Buddhist clergy and tribal peoples. There is Al Shabab in Kenya, which attacks Muslim and Christian black Kenyans, and Boko Haram in Nigeria whose victims have been entirely black Nigerians. I could go on but you get it - if Islamic terrorism was related to 'killing Muslims' as you out it, then there should be no Islamic terror against places where there is in fact much.

    Instead, Islamic terrorism is caused by their religious belief that the entire world should be under the umbrella of Islam and that an eternity in paradise awaits those who die bringing that about.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    I don't have anything against them targetting the Blair family.
    , @Andrei Martyanov

    And the bombing of Libya has nothing to do with it. Stop killing Muslims,
     
    Agree!

    and they will stop killing u.
     
    Disagree.

    Catch 22? Conundrum?
    , @jimmyriddle
    The West ostensibly bombed Libya to prevent Gadaffi from de-radicalising some Islamist hooligans in Benghazi.

    Of course, that was stupid. But the bomber was one of those Islamists, not a Gadaffi supporter.
  8. LauraMR says:

    Sure, lack of assimilation is the culprit but as a “truther” might say, this could well be an operation carried out by the deep state. Indeed, someone put this kid up to this, supplied explosives and logistics, so perhaps it was an Israeli plot, for certain some Anglo-Zionist one percenter must be behind all of this. Naturally, as it is often published here, white Europeans are superior to all other races so the kid was by virtue of ancestry a lesser, defective human being to begin with…

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Your hunch is more likely correct.
    From the Voltaire site: http://www.voltairenet.org/article196455.html
    "Salman Abedi was born in the UK of a family of Libyan immigrants.
    His father Ramadan Abedi is a former officer in [Gaddafi’s] Libyan Intelligence Services. He specialised in the surveillance of the Islamist movement, but two decades later has failed to notice that his son has joined Daesh (IS).
    In 1992, Ramadan Abedi was sent to Libya by Britain’s MI6 and was involved in a British-devised plot to assassinate Muammar Gaddafi. The operation having been readily exposed, he was exfiltrated by MI6 and transferred back to the UK where he obtained political asylum.
    In 1994, Ramadan Abedi returned to Libya under MI6’s direction. In late 1995 he was involved in the creation of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a local branch of Al-Qaeda. Nobody pays attention to the fact that Ramadan Abedi has linked LIFG members to the formation of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and, in 2011, he takes part in MI6’s ‘Arab Spring’ operations, and in LIFG’s role on the ground in support of NATO"

    Also, from The Solari Report: https://solari.com/00archive/web/solarireports/2017/sr20170427_Saker.pdf
    "...having ISIS in power in Damascus would actually be something that the Israelis want. For one thing, it gives them a wonderful pretext to establish a security zone. It could be the Golan Heights or more of the Golan Heights, or even to try to push up to the Litani River. They know that ISIS is a mortal enemy of Hezbollah, so it’s superb. They can hope for a civil war in Lebanon. That can only be achieved if they destabilize Lebanon as with Syria.
    Finally, Assad is the only hope for a unitary Syrian state, which they [Israelis] don’t want."

    , @Rurik

    ...someone put this kid up to this

    ...white Europeans are superior to all other races so the kid was by virtue of ancestry a lesser, defective human being to begin with...
     
    "kid" eh?

    just a poor, misunderstood victim of the racism of white Europeans, eh?

    I have no idea what actually happened in Manchester, and you're right, it could be another Zio-false flag, but if it's true this hatred-crazed monster murdered children in this way, then you're absolutely correct in assuming that there are people like me who would consider such a person as "defective", regardless of his race

    but the problem isn't "lack of assimilation", but the evil madness and suicidal insanity of 'invade the world / invite the world'. And the cowards and traitors and vile scum who refuse to mention this, because for what ever reason, the invade/invite suits their own personal agendas
    , @Nick Granite
    Not a lesser human being but one who got to this human finish line in a much different way over hundreds of thousands of years. The west is guilty of cramming extremely different cultures together into one big mess to achieve some sort of liberal wet dream of cultural harmony. It was not just insane to mix the descendants of the western enlightenment with the third world, it's unfair to their development and ours. We are averaging down while they desperately try to keep up and lash out in pretty dysfunctional ways.
  9. @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    Your comment is a summary of the message of Michel Houellebec’s novel Soumission. In the case of Islam, the cure is worse than the disease. We need to keep the Muslims out of it, and straighten up our societal mess ourselves.

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    I don't see Islam as a cure. I don't care for it.

    But if Muslims want to bomb and attack globalism, that's fine by me.

    They are doing the job that white patriots are too afraid to do.

    Algeria and Vietnam both freed themselves from foreign invasion through terrorism and war.

    All true patriots must go Cong, as in Viet Cong.

    Muslims are invaders too, and their entry into the West has been made possible by globalism. But they also sense that globalism is a means to turn their daughters into sex sluts of black Africans. At the very least, they resist that. In contrast, white fathers worship the very Negroes who conquer and colonize their daughters'wombs.

  10. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    If Australia and Canada don’t stop Chinese immigration, they might end up looking like third-rate Kazakhstan.

    Or maybe they’ll be turned into Hindustan.

    How did Anglos get so dumb?

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Rubbish. It's a matter of quality control and I haven't met or seen an Indian or. Chinese immigrant in Australia who wasn't almost certainly raising the average IQ. Not a 100 per cent guarantee of all round success amd benefit (cf. Jews in Russia from the partition of Poland onwards) but it's a lot better than US ethnic mixes.
  11. Alden says:

    Manchester police announced where the Abedi family got the tens of thousands of pounds that enabled them to fly back and forth from England to several countries in the Middle East for years.
    Welfare fraud and student loans funded the bombing. Apparently the English student loan system does not require class attendance and accumulation of credits to continue receiving loans.

    BBC radio useful idiot programs claim the Abedi brothers might have been bullied by evil Whites. But they lived on the middle of the Libyan neighborhood so it’s unlikely they were bullied by Whites.

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    • Replies: @Randal
    It's not really a Libyan neighbourhood though it is heavily colonised, but nor was the Burnage school he attended a place where anyone would be bullied for not being white - quite the contrary.

    Here are the latest school alumni photographs. Judge for yourself:

    Burnage school leavers

    These photos of course are published for PR purposes and as always make the place look like a happy, professional community of scholars and athletes, but certainly a few years back it was a rough-arsed underclass school.

    , @romar
    Welfare fraud?
    This young mans family is rich - with loads of British pounds from MI6 and MI5 - and Theresa "May as Home Secretary, knew all about this:
    Salman's father, Ramadan Abedi, is a former officer in Gaddafi’s Intelligence Services. MI6 succeeded in turning him into "their man in Tripoli."
    He was involved in an assassination attempt against Gaddafi, and when they failed, he was exfiltrated with family and settled in the UK as a "refugee". He played a role in all the events that led to the massacre of Gaddafi and the destruction of his own country - all the while collecting loads of UK money. http://www.voltairenet.org/article196455.html
    Forget welfare fraud... Instead, ask May to explain why such people were collected and settled in Manchester and elsewhere. Their fathers killed their own people for your money, their sons are now killing you - with your own money.
  12. In 2004 the King of Jordan, the ruling Saud at the time in Saudi Arabia, and Mucharraf in Pakistan all told senator Hollings that the only way to end terrorism was to establish peace between Israel and the Palestinians.
    Since 2004 the west did nothing for peace, on the contrary, efforts to destabilise the ME, and North Africa continued, an were intensified.
    Deradicalisation is making Muslims believe that what they see happening is not happening.
    It may succeed in a few cases, but it so me seems impossible in general.
    So attacks in the west will continue, it is, as Mearsheimer and Walt write ‘the strategy of the weak’.
    On top of that, the west needs terrorism, if necessary does it herself, in order to make the western societies more totalitarian all the time ‘for our safety’.
    The destabilisation in ME and N Africa causes massive migration, the destabilisation of the European countries is welcome, in order to create an Europe, a USA clone.

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    In 2004 the King of Jordan, the ruling Saud at the time in Saudi Arabia, and Mucharraf in Pakistan all told senator Hollings that the only way to end terrorism was to establish peace between Israel and the Palestinians.
     
    They would, of course, have no incentive to lie and could not possibly be mistaken.

    I wonder what the victims of Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines or Al Shabbab in Kenya think of the hypothesis that all Islamic terrorism stems from the Israeli-Arab conflict.
    , @Vinteuil
    "In 2004 the King of Jordan, the ruling Saud at the time in Saudi Arabia, and Mucharraf in Pakistan all told senator Hollings that the only way to end terrorism was to establish peace between Israel and the Palestinians."

    I.e., there is no way to end terrorism.

    But maybe we can confine it, a bit?
    , @anon
    So boko haram will stop kidnapping christian nigerian children and suicide bombing markets if abbas and netanyahu sign a peace agreement ?
    Also ISIS will stop bombing Russians and Pakistani suicide bombings will cease .

    Also Turkey will retreat from occupied Cyprus , Sudan will relinquish occupied Darfur , Morrocco will retreat from occupied Western Sahara and Indonesia will retreat from occupied Papua. Furthermore the King of Jordan will voluntarily relinquish the 78% of mandatory palestine that his minority Hashemite group currently occupies , I presume.....
  13. Randal says:

    This latest Manchester bombing is the perfect illustration of the twofold nature of the problem of invade the world/invite the world. Furthermore it comes on top of another similarly perfect illustration of that twofold nature, in the Orlando shootings. In both cases a 2nd generation immigrant whose parents were only here because it suited the US/UK regimes to have them here as oppositionist tools for the destabilisation and overthrow of foreign governments, who in each case openly declare the ongoing butchery our governments are responsible for in the ME and North Africa as direct motivating factors for their own violence, was enabled to attack their host nations by immigration.

    Derbyshire’s piece does a good job of skewering the “invite the world” side of the issue, but ignores “invade the world”.

    In 2011, you’ll recall, Barack Obama, prompted by the Three Horsegirls of the Apocalypse—Samantha Power of Obama’s National Security Council, his U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, and his Secretary of State Hillary Clinton—who in turn were prompted by Britain and France, with an assist from George Soros—overthrew Colonel Gaddafy.

    Salman Abedi’s parents thereupon, in 2011, returned to Libya. Salman Abedi, then 17, stayed in the U.K.

    That’s barely the beginning of the story, with its murky elements of the UK regime’s security forces using jihadist terrorism as a weapon for regime change in Libya and Syria, in which this family seem to have been up to their necks. Even the BBC reported on some of these murky aspects in the immediate aftermath of the bombing (though doubtless that line of inquiry will be quietly dropped, or suppressed).

    Manchester attack: Who was Salman Abedi?

    This was as clear a case of “blowback” as you’ll get.

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    • Agree: for-the-record
    • Replies: @for-the-record
    So for whom are you going to vote?

    Invite but Don't Invade (Corbyn) or Invade but Don't Invite (May)

    Or is there a better alternative?

    , @Diversity Heretic
    John has in past columns expressed what I interpret as an anti-invasion policy: wall the Middle East off. The wall keeps them out of the west and keeps the west out of the Middle East. I concur. The West is following the worse strategy possible: invade Middle Eastern countries and kill Muslims, then invite Muslims with a grudge (sometimes justifiable) to settle here.
    , @Art
    Derbyshire’s piece does a good job of skewering the “invite the world” side of the issue, but ignores “invade the world”.

    (Sarcasm on.)

    It seems that identity social politics is working against us – we kill 2 identity folks – then 4 more pop-up. There are only one billion of this identity. We need a way out of this.

    Clearly as the preeminent exceptional nation on the planet, we are entitled to our revenge after 9/11.

    Would it be good if congress (bi-partisan Zionist) were to set a minimum number of Muslim kills and displacements that would assuage and placate our dignity after 9/11?

    In that way, when we reach the minimum, we can be magnanimous and proudly proclaim peace – and go home.

    (Sarcasm off.)

    p.s. Of course that could never happen with the Jews controlling congress.
  14. Randal says:
    @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    I think I’ve absimilated, and I don’t have any known non-English ancestors at all, going back several centuries.

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  15. @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    Nice takes, Anon. Slutty little girls make for more. Every generation since the eighties and Madonna has a group of sluts sluttier and more depraved than the one before. And, Awkwafina should be careful what she wishes for. Female-centric/loaded casting in movies has been a rather large bust so far. Hmmm, Chinese and Korean mix, this broad. Proof positive that immigration from North Korea into China works. And so to avoid war, CHINA can handle their client that poses such a “problem” for the U.S..

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  16. Randal says:

    There are mighty forces striving to make it happen; but we can still turn the tide, before it becomes blood-dimmed.

    Good luck with that.

    Rod Dreher over at The American Conservative has a very revealing piece of film showing an academic trying (laughably) to reason with the modern American Red Guard, which was exactly like trying to “reason” with a bunch of riled up children with no respect for authority, though the “children” in question were clearly of an age to have been expected to behave as adults in previous generations:

    The Hunting Of Bret Weinstein

    That’s America’s (and Britain’s) future, most likely.

    Dreher I know is part of the problem, as he and the American Conservative actively censor dissident voices on the topics of traditionalist concerns such as race and homosexual behaviour. He and they want to have it both ways, and just end up betraying those who would be prepared to stand up for the truth on these issues, whilst pretending to be surprised and shocked when they suddenly find out that means they themselves are now the extremists because everything to their right has been suppressed and excluded, and acting all outraged when their betrayal enables further advances by the leftists. I don’t know anything about this Weinstein beyond what is in the piece, but it seems reasonable to assume he’s likely to have been one of those condemning “racists” to the outer darkness as well (almost all academics are), so it’s hard to have much sympathy for him when the enforcers he’s enabled now come for him.

    But it’s a very educational piece of film, for the sheer delusionality of what are now fairly standard beliefs amongst the elites, and their pigheadedly ignorant aggression in imposing them and using them to wield power.

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    I don’t know anything about this Weinstein beyond what is in the piece, but it seems reasonable to assume he’s likely to have been one of those condemning “racists” to the outer darkness as well (almost all academics are), so it’s hard to have much sympathy for him when the enforcers he’s enabled now come for him.
     
    Your predictive powers are confirmed:

    Eric Weinstein, the professor’s brother, called the exchange ironic due to his brother’s “center-left” political views and staunch anti-racism.

    “If you had asked me who is one of racism’s most powerful foes, I would have said Bret Weinstein,” Eric Weinstein told The Times. “There’s something sort of ‘Twilight Zone’ about one of the most thoughtful commentators on race, at one of the most progressive schools in the country, getting called a racist.”
     
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/25/evergreen-state-students-demand-professor-resign-f/

    As far as content goes, it's really no different than the saga of Halloween costumes at Yale in 2015, also a case of being devoured by one's own offspring:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IEFD_JVYd0
  17. Willem says:

    I learned 2 things from this essay

    1. According to the author there is such a thing as ‘Libyan authorities’

    2. According to the author, what the world needs now are more Ivanhoes to combat terrorism

    So according to the author’s logic he should first become Ivanhoe and then combat terrorism together with Libyan authorities

    Perhaps a bit more realism as to the why’s and how’s and who’s would be more appropriate to combat terrorism, wouldn’t you think?

    But if the author really wants to become Ivanhoe, I won’t stop him, as long as he doesn’t try to persuade others to follow his ‘example’. Actually, as far as I know the author isn’t Ivanhoe. He just wants others to become Ivanhoe. I won’t accept this offer.

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    • Replies: @Rich
    Actually, the solution to ending Islamic terrorism in the US specifically, and the West in general, is very simple, and can be done without a single Ivanhoe, or Libyan authority. Stop letting Muslims into the country, expel all Muslims already present. That would permanently end the problem of Islamic terror.
    Of course we can't do that, though, might hurt someone's feelings.
    , @attilathehen
    The author can't become an Ivanhoe. His Chinese wife and offspring have compromised him. His wife and daughter were Obummer voters. They have "absimiliated" away from the West. He can't have his children fight for the West because he is worried they might get hurt. But they wouldn't do it anyway because they don't identify with the West.

    He wrote that his son joined the US army. My hunch is he will meet an Asian woman and marry her and hopefully leave the USA.

    Derbyshire spouts about the West all the time but he and his offspring can do or will do nothing.

    These articles he writes are variations on Augustine's confessions.

    But he is guilty of helping to destroy the West.
  18. m___ says:

    Not terrorism, war-games (primitive Muslim terrorism, structured terrorism on the side of the West)…It is the breeding and non-breeding that is dangerous to “Western values”, the disconnect between Enlightenment, and actual social and political distortions on the Western side (nihilism, abject ego-centrism, consumerism, the holy cow of democracy entwined with capitalism) and low IQ propaganda on the Muslim side, as to conquering the world once over using breeding, as if that would wane the real problems unrecognized, unprioritized by any of the “elites” globally.

    Whatever, the masses, the simpletons, the bulk of humanity needs steering, none of ours truly “priviledged”, the “nobility” of human worlds, has the physical courage, the individual potential (IQ, and consequently logical and ethical capacity) to cope with complexity. Neither do we as a group(s), from the White House, Chamber of Lords, Yurga, Nation State X, the pompous UN, and least of all as a group the intellectuals, scientists, academics of our (short) age. No entity, by default Islam being less structured politically, in the Islamic world takes responsibility either for including the complexity exposed by two thousand years more years of living and experimenting since Mohammad was noted to the Koran.

    Being non-religious, the Potential structures need to take “God” like responsibility or doom or relief (whatever your psychological mindset) is at the doorsteps of our times. Human nature needs to be “tweaked” not socially, that is proven by ages (that we do not have) too slow due to our biological creep, but by far more abrupt means of genetic biology, artificial intelligence. War and other social and political chess play is obsolete, too slow, blunt as to cope with the rhythm of planetary chaos (human, and nature induced).

    Migration, pollution, toxicity, growth economy, population dynamics, etc. as they show up in myriad cause-consequence sequels are not problems to be smothered by social and political engineering, locally, and by high interference of individual careerism and public utility, but hard and sober scientific biddings to be solved by engineering humanity, starting the elites, into distinct critters ready to write algorithms so AI can do it’s sorting. Not google for pushing products, converting individuals into products, preserve short term priveledges but google for insight and decision making by brute force exclusion of flawed concepts.

    No muslim wants to hear of genetically favouring the unborn for intelligence, higher capacitation, quality. Oddly so the West has the same taboo prevalence (and the elites are meant), as to it either.

    Is is evident that the “God” the religious among us long for, needs to be us, by lack of other tangents. It is evident that systemically made to float elites are not the right kind of nuclei to build and sustain a planet on, let alone to grasp a wider view of the universe, or on the other side grasp the infinitely small.

    The “good” thing is, whatever we do, we cannot go wrong!

    m___

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    "Whatever, the masses, the simpletons, the bulk of humanity needs steering, none of ours truly “priviledged”, the “nobility” of human worlds, has the physical courage, the individual potential (IQ, and consequently logical and ethical capacity) to cope with complexity. "

    So, do YOU have this ability to "cope" compared to us "simpletons"? So, why don't you offer your advice on this matter as a public service announcement...
  19. Numinous says:

    inhabitants of what formerly were British colonies and are now, since the Brits left, failed states sunk in poverty and disorder.

    Those states were in worse poverty and similar levels of disorder when the British were there. The British were responsible for a lot of it.

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    • Replies: @fitzGetty
    Wrong.
    Look at, for instance, poor little Trinidad & Tobago -- far along the path to moslem majority rule and sharia and all the rest ... 3% can be absorbed - nothing more .
    , @Bragadocious
    Agree with this. Derb, for all his strengths, still has a schoolboy's view of the British Empire. The Empire did quite a number on India, slaughtering millions. It would be ludicrous to argue that India was in better shape in the 1940s than today. Capitalism has taken root there to an extent that the Brits would never have allowed, and it has lifted many millions out of poverty. The Brits were never interested in spreading free market capitalism. Their goal was to take stuff for themselves and keep the population impoverished and divided.
  20. Numinous says:

    Please don’t let this country, the U.S.A., be similarly destroyed.

    Doesn’t the UK have a much higher percentage of whites (~85%) than the US (~65%)? And that’s what you really care about, don’t you?

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  21. kernfel says:

    [...] disgruntled inhabitants of an old empire across the seas—inhabitants of what formerly were British colonies and are now, since the Brits left, failed states sunk in poverty and disorder.

    It seems to me that these states would be much less failed if they had been supported, rather than bombed to smithereens, by the “developed nations” of the West. It seems rather convenient to your “evil invaders” narrative that you choose to ignore this!

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  22. unit472 says:
    @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    No doubt the murderer Abedi chose his target well. Western pop culture threatens Islam a helluva of a lot more than democracy or capitalism. It is assimilative and transcends race and national borders. Its not possible to put this genie back in the bottle. That battle was lost with Elvis and the Beatles. Today we have terrorists who, before they donned their bomb vests, were aspiring rappers. I was flabbergasted watching the TV show ‘Snapped”. It featured an Afghan girl in Southern California who became a meth freak, topless dancer and then murdered her mother when she objected to her daughter’s lifestyle.

    If I ran the CIA I would put my efforts into creating an Islamic Ariana Grande or forming some ‘boy group’ Saudi tweens would go crazy over. Let the devout Muslim mom and dad experience the ‘generation gap’.

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    Brilliant idea and it wouldn't cost much to mount such an operation in CIA terms. The pure and obvious potential benefit of such a project means it will likely never be funded.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Interesting concept but Muslim parents and the Muslim community will simply kill the CIA recruits.
    , @Alden
    There's a theory that once Stalin died and things loosened up western music, jeans and Elvis then Beatles hairdos infiltrated into the Soviet Union.

    Supposedly western teen culture and music was the soviets fell. Personally I think it was more complicated.
  23. Guardian on form today, flushing the patrimony

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/26/salman-abedi-manchester-arena-attack-partying-suicide-bomber

    “Others said he was a bit of a party animal, who drank vodka and smoked weed daily, was popular with girls and “always clubbing or at house parties”, listening to rap and grime music. A young man, in other words, like so many others in Manchester: unconcerning, unremarkable. ”

    This is how the globalist media want us to live.

    IIRC the 9/11 bombers liked clubbing, booze and strippers. Lots of jihadists were petty criminals or drug dealers before the gods of their far-off land repossessed their blood – and spilled ours.

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  24. Renoman says:

    In the words of Archie Bunker “England is a Fag Country”! No one really likes Fags, we are amused by them and regard them as a harmless side show but in many other cultures they are just plain hated. You bring those cultures here and this is what you get.

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  25. Ram says:

    We hate terrorists unless they are the kind we’ve recruited, funded, trained and armed.
    The rejects from other countries, rejected because of their desire to destroy those societies, make for good recruits.

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  26. How long since you have visited England JD?

    Instead of your feverish nightmares what about giving us the benefit of your hyper numerate self?

    Might not events like this Manchester bombing be part of an inoculation procesz rather than markers of unstoppable processes of destruction?

    True that the case I make for being relaxed about a foolish period of acceptance of African refugees in Australia, namely that a few car jackiings, home invasions and mini riots by a few dozen young black men and boys in a city of 4.6 million is just the inoculation process we need to prevent a repeat (or a repeat also under a conservative PM of the unfortunate intake of Lebanese in 1976), is not so easy to make about all Britain’s large Muslim communities. A handful of Libyans can be regarded as in the same category as Australia’s Sudanese. Your case really depends on the much longer settled and more numerous Pakistanis. But numbers please, fertility rates and projected numbers.

    If you were to study Theresa May’s record as Home Secretary, and the immigration policies and numbers under Blair as PM you might make a good case against them for paying so little attention to quality. May seems to have been quite obtusely illogical in her attitudes to students who, lrima facie would add quality if they stayeed in the UK. Now her folly (admittedly based on Brexit) extends to excluding the Europeans from EU countries who would make up for some of the Third Worlders.

    By the way, shouldn”t you have acknowledged that refugees from a non Comminwealth country (e.g. Libya) aren’t the same as the Empire legacy Btits?

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  27. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Salman’s father Ramadan reportedly was a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group back in the 90′s which had AQ links. Weren’t those people in cahoots with British intelligence back then in schemes to overthrow Khaddafi? This explains his supposed resettlement in Britain; he was connected. Also, Daily Mail has described him as a “former airport security worker in the UK”. Think about that one for a while. They were reported to the authorities years ago but apparently they were allowed to go on unencumbered. The son may have gone off and become a loose cannon but otherwise there’s a lot of murkiness involved with these people.

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  28. Like the author, I grew up in the UK in happier times and am now a US citizen.

    It is a pity that free speech no longer exists in England, because prohibiting discussion of ideas skews all political debate. For example, it is pretty obvious that the successful Brexit vote was pretty much a plebiscite on unlimited immigration and loss of sovereignty, except that it would be illegal to say so in a UK publication, as this would be “hate speech.”

    However I do believe that the well-intended reason for the hate speech laws is to prevent a bad situation getting even worse, rather than to stop people from knowing what they can see with their own eyes.

    I am reminded of a court case in the UK a few years ago in which a well-known soap opera star was on trial for the rape of a 6 year old girl several years earlier. Many UK readers were baffled by the story since secrecy laws meant that nearly all the salient details of the case could not be reported upon, nor were the media even allowed to say what they were not allowed to report on.

    For example, it was not clear why the girl and the allegist rapist were living under the same roof. Had the public known that the girl in question was the man’s own daughter, and that the rape allegations were part of a particularly nasty divorce dispute several years later, they might have been better able to form an opinion of his guilt or innocence.

    As it happens, the accused was acquitted, possible because forensic medical evidence showed that the alleged victim was still a virgin at the time of the trial, but it was a close run thing, and the judge directed that jury that medical proof of the girl’s virginity did not necessarily mean that she has not been raped. (Whatever!)

    When so much of public life and politics cannot be reported upon, it is not surprising that people will arrive at false conclusions, or find ways of protesting that which cannot be discussed.

    Like voting for Brexit.

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    A pity to spoil a defensible case with BS.


    "Brexit was pretty much a plebiscitre on immigration and loss of sovereignty, but it would be illegal to say so becsuse it would be 'hate speech' ".

    You must be right out of touch. I hear just that said when I am in tbe UK and read it and hear it broadcast from the UK when I am not there.
  29. DanCT says:

    We should be thankful that all these bombers and shooters leave behind what those conspiracy nutcases might call magically indestructible identification so the authorities can go straight to the perp’s family and friends. Apparently these imitators hope to outdo the ID that survived 911 among incinerated debris in perfect condition. And we should be doubly thankful that our loyal and patriotic msm have such incredible journalists that they simultaneously uncover the same evidence and reach exactly the same conclusions within minutes of each other.

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    • Replies: @Druid
    I firmly believe 911 was an inside job. I find all these killings atrocious. I am not European and I don't blame them for not wanting their culture somewhat maintained although I think they could be improved upon. That said, stop killing in the ME and other places. Though this atrocio act is receiving massive media attention, not a few words are spared for the dAily air-bombing deaths of civilian in Syria every single day. This hatred, killing and empire-gone- crazy must stop.
    , @Alden
    I too find it hard to believe a bank card in a pocket survived the blast. Pockets are around the chest, waist and hips, very close to the blast of a back pack bomb.

    A bank card tucked in a shoe I could believe. But not in a pocket inches from the backpack.
  30. fitzGetty says:

    … can we , for God’s sake, stop glorifying the Manchester killer by the constant use of his full name ??
    The leftist BBC has used it in full this week up to 30 times an hour on its radio news services … he intended his name to “”live for evermore”” – unhelpful to assist that .

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  31. fitzGetty says:
    @Numinous

    inhabitants of what formerly were British colonies and are now, since the Brits left, failed states sunk in poverty and disorder.
     
    Those states were in worse poverty and similar levels of disorder when the British were there. The British were responsible for a lot of it.

    Wrong.
    Look at, for instance, poor little Trinidad & Tobago — far along the path to moslem majority rule and sharia and all the rest … 3% can be absorbed – nothing more .

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  32. @Randal
    This latest Manchester bombing is the perfect illustration of the twofold nature of the problem of invade the world/invite the world. Furthermore it comes on top of another similarly perfect illustration of that twofold nature, in the Orlando shootings. In both cases a 2nd generation immigrant whose parents were only here because it suited the US/UK regimes to have them here as oppositionist tools for the destabilisation and overthrow of foreign governments, who in each case openly declare the ongoing butchery our governments are responsible for in the ME and North Africa as direct motivating factors for their own violence, was enabled to attack their host nations by immigration.

    Derbyshire's piece does a good job of skewering the "invite the world" side of the issue, but ignores "invade the world".

    In 2011, you’ll recall, Barack Obama, prompted by the Three Horsegirls of the Apocalypse—Samantha Power of Obama’s National Security Council, his U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, and his Secretary of State Hillary Clinton—who in turn were prompted by Britain and France, with an assist from George Soros—overthrew Colonel Gaddafy.

    Salman Abedi’s parents thereupon, in 2011, returned to Libya. Salman Abedi, then 17, stayed in the U.K.
     
    That's barely the beginning of the story, with its murky elements of the UK regime's security forces using jihadist terrorism as a weapon for regime change in Libya and Syria, in which this family seem to have been up to their necks. Even the BBC reported on some of these murky aspects in the immediate aftermath of the bombing (though doubtless that line of inquiry will be quietly dropped, or suppressed).

    Manchester attack: Who was Salman Abedi?

    This was as clear a case of "blowback" as you'll get.

    So for whom are you going to vote?

    Invite but Don’t Invade (Corbyn) or Invade but Don’t Invite (May)

    Or is there a better alternative?

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    • Replies: @Randal
    Neither party really stands for the position it pretends to. Corbyn, whatever his personal opinions might be, is surrounded by paid up members of the leftist half of the bipartisan interventionist elite consensus, who will happily bomb America's enemies for the greater good. And May will ensure that the supply of immigration fodder for big business and the financier class is maintained, one way or the other. Both believe in suppression of political dissent by force ("hate speech" censorship and "antiracist" thuggery).

    Neither is worth campaigning for.

    So for whom are you going to vote?
     
    As it happens I live in one of the majority of electoral constituencies in England where voting genuinely is a waste of time, even if there were any meaningful difference between the parties - the outcome is determined once the parties have selected their candidates. Whomever or whatever they select (usually the proverbial donkey).

    Or is there a better alternative?
     
    UKIP, for all its inadequacies, is still the only choice for a patriot in England, if one were to choose by national party allegiance.

    If there were any reason to vote for one of the big parties in my particular constituency (if, say, it was a Lab/Con marginal seat) I would probably choose based upon the likely stance of the individual candidate on the overriding issue of the day - leaving the EU. That might mean "Conservative" or "Labour" depending on the candidate, but most likely it would be the "Conservative".
  33. Rich says:
    @Willem
    I learned 2 things from this essay

    1. According to the author there is such a thing as 'Libyan authorities'

    2. According to the author, what the world needs now are more Ivanhoes to combat terrorism

    So according to the author's logic he should first become Ivanhoe and then combat terrorism together with Libyan authorities

    Perhaps a bit more realism as to the why's and how's and who's would be more appropriate to combat terrorism, wouldn't you think?

    But if the author really wants to become Ivanhoe, I won't stop him, as long as he doesn't try to persuade others to follow his 'example'. Actually, as far as I know the author isn't Ivanhoe. He just wants others to become Ivanhoe. I won't accept this offer.

    Actually, the solution to ending Islamic terrorism in the US specifically, and the West in general, is very simple, and can be done without a single Ivanhoe, or Libyan authority. Stop letting Muslims into the country, expel all Muslims already present. That would permanently end the problem of Islamic terror.
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  34. eah says:

    Refugee Resettlement Watch — Stunning news: Trump State Department opens the flood gates, refugee admissions will explode in coming weeks

    Betraying the voters who elected Donald Trump, the Department of State slipped the news to the contractors on Thursday…Forget everything I said in my post yesterday about Trump’s “average” admissions. If they do as they are now saying they will, Donald Trump will be responsible for one of six highest resettlement years since 9/11…Bottomline is that it appears that the REPUBLICAN Congress (never forget they want to keep big business donors happy by providing a steady supply of cheap labor) appropriated gobs of money for refugee resettlement!…And, the Trump Administration (remember Trump campaigned with talk of a moratorium on refugee resettlement) appears to have no fight left in them on this issue (other issues too!).

    Nothing could be clearer than that the ‘refugee’ scam will continue to flood white, western countries with endless streams of third world flotsam — the ‘developing world’ will always be developing — third world countries will always be economically and politically unstable — Trump was specifically elected to do something about this.

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    I submitted the URL for this Refugee Resettlement Watch story to Drudge via the Drudge tips box (little better than doing nothing, but still something). It's the most important story of the year (especially in the wake of Manchester); look how little attention it is drawing.
  35. Kyle a says:
    @German_reader

    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.
     
    That's an idiotic statement. I agree that Ariana Grande is a degenerate slut, and the kind of toxic, decadent songs she's singing should perhaps even be banned. Certainly it's somewhat disturbing that even children are attending her concerts. But still, that can't justify Islamist savages maiming and killing those misguided children and teens. If you're on the side of the Islamists, you're simply a traitor.

    who said anything about being a traitor? His point, obviously lost in translation and going far beyond your Germanic comprehension, .. we’ve creat d this mess ourselves. We can blame sand crickets all we want, but the bottom line….we’re to blame, or more importantly, those we’ve entrusted with our lives are to blame. What the hell were we thinking.

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    No, his point was that he's fine with children and teenage girls attending decadent pop concerts being killed or maimed by Islamist terrorists.
    Now personally I'm pretty disgusted as well by creatures like Ariana Grande and the decadent anti-culture they're promoting. It's certainly disturbing that children and teenagers look up to her as a sort of role model (wouldn't surprise me if that slut culture was a factor in conditioning girls for being "groomed" by Pakistani abusers and the like). These girls need firm moral guidance. But expressing sympathy for our Islamist enemies is just perverse.
  36. @Randal

    There are mighty forces striving to make it happen; but we can still turn the tide, before it becomes blood-dimmed.
     
    Good luck with that.

    Rod Dreher over at The American Conservative has a very revealing piece of film showing an academic trying (laughably) to reason with the modern American Red Guard, which was exactly like trying to "reason" with a bunch of riled up children with no respect for authority, though the "children" in question were clearly of an age to have been expected to behave as adults in previous generations:

    The Hunting Of Bret Weinstein

    That's America's (and Britain's) future, most likely.

    Dreher I know is part of the problem, as he and the American Conservative actively censor dissident voices on the topics of traditionalist concerns such as race and homosexual behaviour. He and they want to have it both ways, and just end up betraying those who would be prepared to stand up for the truth on these issues, whilst pretending to be surprised and shocked when they suddenly find out that means they themselves are now the extremists because everything to their right has been suppressed and excluded, and acting all outraged when their betrayal enables further advances by the leftists. I don't know anything about this Weinstein beyond what is in the piece, but it seems reasonable to assume he's likely to have been one of those condemning "racists" to the outer darkness as well (almost all academics are), so it's hard to have much sympathy for him when the enforcers he's enabled now come for him.

    But it's a very educational piece of film, for the sheer delusionality of what are now fairly standard beliefs amongst the elites, and their pigheadedly ignorant aggression in imposing them and using them to wield power.

    I don’t know anything about this Weinstein beyond what is in the piece, but it seems reasonable to assume he’s likely to have been one of those condemning “racists” to the outer darkness as well (almost all academics are), so it’s hard to have much sympathy for him when the enforcers he’s enabled now come for him.

    Your predictive powers are confirmed:

    Eric Weinstein, the professor’s brother, called the exchange ironic due to his brother’s “center-left” political views and staunch anti-racism.

    “If you had asked me who is one of racism’s most powerful foes, I would have said Bret Weinstein,” Eric Weinstein told The Times. “There’s something sort of ‘Twilight Zone’ about one of the most thoughtful commentators on race, at one of the most progressive schools in the country, getting called a racist.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/25/evergreen-state-students-demand-professor-resign-f/

    As far as content goes, it’s really no different than the saga of Halloween costumes at Yale in 2015, also a case of being devoured by one’s own offspring:

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    Thanks for that! I always appreciate someone doing the research I'm too lazy to do :-)

    I'll make another prediction based upon experience, with even greater confidence: Weinstein won't learn anything from this experience and will in the end remain as stupidly conformist and antiracist, as pathetically apologetic and appeasing, as he was before this evidently uncharacteristic outbreak of personal rebelliousness.
  37. Randal says:
    @Alden
    Manchester police announced where the Abedi family got the tens of thousands of pounds that enabled them to fly back and forth from England to several countries in the Middle East for years.
    Welfare fraud and student loans funded the bombing. Apparently the English student loan system does not require class attendance and accumulation of credits to continue receiving loans.

    BBC radio useful idiot programs claim the Abedi brothers might have been bullied by evil Whites. But they lived on the middle of the Libyan neighborhood so it's unlikely they were bullied by Whites.

    It’s not really a Libyan neighbourhood though it is heavily colonised, but nor was the Burnage school he attended a place where anyone would be bullied for not being white – quite the contrary.

    Here are the latest school alumni photographs. Judge for yourself:

    Burnage school leavers

    These photos of course are published for PR purposes and as always make the place look like a happy, professional community of scholars and athletes, but certainly a few years back it was a rough-arsed underclass school.

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  38. Dr. X says:

    Until astonishingly recently it was the common opinion among English people that the worst disaster that could befall a nation was invasion and occupation by foreigners. This opinion was, of course, disgracefully nativist and xenophobic, if not actually racist. But it was what all English people believed in the darkness of their ignorance and the arrogance of their selfish pride in the dark, ignorant times just forty or fifty years ago.

    This may have been true of the working classes, but not the cultural elites. World Wars I and II destroyed what had been a firm belief among Victorian and imperialist elites that Western white man was better, and less savage, than Third World blacks and browns. The turning point for the UK was the interwar period of the 1920s and ’30s, when British intellectuals began to adopt Fabian socialist, globalist, League-of-Nations pap, homosexuality, and anti-imperialism. Remember, the nationalist/imperialist Winston Churchill’s career was pretty much over by the ’30s — he was persona-non-grata until Dunkirk. The Second World War halted the leftist agenda temporarily; but immediately upon the end of the war the British ditched Churchill, embraced Attlee and Fabianism, and embarked on massive decolonization and the building of state socialism.

    In the U.S., anti-nationalist views started to be adopted by elites a generation later in the hippie days of the 1960s, in which the leftist radicals saw no functional difference between the nationalism of the U.S. and Nazi Germany, and began to embrace Third Worlders like Castro, Mao, Chavez, Arafat and Ho.

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  39. Please, please, don’t let this happen here in America.

    There are mighty forces striving to make it happen; but we can still turn the tide, before it becomes blood-dimmed.

    Mighty forces including federal judges: http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/25/politics/read-travel-ban-ruling/

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  40. Anonym says:

    I think England’s too far gone. If the tide can be turned over there, it will be turned only with blood.

    In that case, they will have a big advantage. A single ethnic majority, with links to the police and military, the weapons they have. Versus a ragtag group of generally low-IQ people of various races and ethnicities, who might be defeated in detail.

    I have been surprised at the changing of opinions. Even among an educated baby boomer friend who has long been left-liberal background, favorite paper is left-establishment… brought up the topic. And multiple times I have raised the subject with him, only to have the typical programmed response that “Isn’t that racist?” and recoil. So now he brings up the subject and is on my side.

    When the fashion changes, it will be quick. The people who do what others do because that is what others do, will flip. PC attitudes will be as fashionable as bell bottom jeans in the 1980s. It’s going to be a very unnerving time to be a non-white immigrant during this time.

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  41. Z-man says:

    …and the Italian Navy, and others, is still picking up this 3rd world scum off the shores of Libya and ‘escorting’ them up to Italy instead of turning the boats back to where they came from and then destroying the boats.
    Stupidity and suicide.

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  42. @Kyle a
    who said anything about being a traitor? His point, obviously lost in translation and going far beyond your Germanic comprehension, .. we've creat d this mess ourselves. We can blame sand crickets all we want, but the bottom line....we're to blame, or more importantly, those we've entrusted with our lives are to blame. What the hell were we thinking.

    No, his point was that he’s fine with children and teenage girls attending decadent pop concerts being killed or maimed by Islamist terrorists.
    Now personally I’m pretty disgusted as well by creatures like Ariana Grande and the decadent anti-culture they’re promoting. It’s certainly disturbing that children and teenagers look up to her as a sort of role model (wouldn’t surprise me if that slut culture was a factor in conditioning girls for being “groomed” by Pakistani abusers and the like). These girls need firm moral guidance. But expressing sympathy for our Islamist enemies is just perverse.

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    His comment went too far, perhaps as hyperbole, when he endorsed murder, for certain.

    On the other hand, he was not really expressing sympathy for the islamists per se as much as expressing agreement with some of their positions, and that is certainly not unacceptable, treasonous or perverse, unless you think we should allow our opinions to be determined by what (a particular brand of) terrorists think.

    That's a common trend in the modern US sphere, unfortunately (we must embrace sexual perversion and general degenerate decadence or we are the same as sunni muslim terrorists), to the ludicrous extent that we are now told that opinions and attitudes that the vast majority of our ancestors up until a couple of generations ago would have regarded as disgusting or contemptible at best and abominations at worst are "British values" or "European" or "western" values that we must defend to the death, and even murder foreigners in order to impose them in their countries.
  43. Randal says:
    @for-the-record
    So for whom are you going to vote?

    Invite but Don't Invade (Corbyn) or Invade but Don't Invite (May)

    Or is there a better alternative?

    Neither party really stands for the position it pretends to. Corbyn, whatever his personal opinions might be, is surrounded by paid up members of the leftist half of the bipartisan interventionist elite consensus, who will happily bomb America’s enemies for the greater good. And May will ensure that the supply of immigration fodder for big business and the financier class is maintained, one way or the other. Both believe in suppression of political dissent by force (“hate speech” censorship and “antiracist” thuggery).

    Neither is worth campaigning for.

    So for whom are you going to vote?

    As it happens I live in one of the majority of electoral constituencies in England where voting genuinely is a waste of time, even if there were any meaningful difference between the parties – the outcome is determined once the parties have selected their candidates. Whomever or whatever they select (usually the proverbial donkey).

    Or is there a better alternative?

    UKIP, for all its inadequacies, is still the only choice for a patriot in England, if one were to choose by national party allegiance.

    If there were any reason to vote for one of the big parties in my particular constituency (if, say, it was a Lab/Con marginal seat) I would probably choose based upon the likely stance of the individual candidate on the overriding issue of the day – leaving the EU. That might mean “Conservative” or “Labour” depending on the candidate, but most likely it would be the “Conservative”.

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    Randal, thanks for your explanation, now for a more difficult question:

    What is your most optimistic (non-Utopian) scenario for the UK, and England in particular, for 50 years from now?
  44. biz says:
    @Swing
    And the bombing of Libya has nothing to do with it. Stop killing Muslims, and they will stop killing u. U killmy brother, I kill yours, u kill my kids I kill yours, simple logic.

    Except that the legitimate grievance ™ hypothesis of Islamic terror does not fit the data.

    For one thing, Islamists are committing as much or even more terror against non-Western targets than Western ones, against peoples who by no stretch of the imagination (even the Unz imagination!) could be seen to have anything to do with Western countries ‘meddling’ in the Middle East. There is an ongoing Islamist terror insurgency in the south of Thailand, and the Philippines, both with countless unspeakable atrocities, including against Buddhist clergy and tribal peoples. There is Al Shabab in Kenya, which attacks Muslim and Christian black Kenyans, and Boko Haram in Nigeria whose victims have been entirely black Nigerians. I could go on but you get it – if Islamic terrorism was related to ‘killing Muslims’ as you out it, then there should be no Islamic terror against places where there is in fact much.

    Instead, Islamic terrorism is caused by their religious belief that the entire world should be under the umbrella of Islam and that an eternity in paradise awaits those who die bringing that about.

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    "Islamists are committing as much or even more terror against non-Western targets than Western ones, against peoples who by no stretch of the imagination (even the Unz imagination!) could be seen to have anything to do with Western countries ‘meddling’ in the Middle East."

    Exactly.

    Like John Derbyshire, I'm almost as much against "invade the world" as I am against "invite the world." But let's not be under any illusions: Muslims in large numbers are big trouble, whether you're intervening in their internecine squabbles or not.
  45. Randal says:
    @for-the-record

    I don’t know anything about this Weinstein beyond what is in the piece, but it seems reasonable to assume he’s likely to have been one of those condemning “racists” to the outer darkness as well (almost all academics are), so it’s hard to have much sympathy for him when the enforcers he’s enabled now come for him.
     
    Your predictive powers are confirmed:

    Eric Weinstein, the professor’s brother, called the exchange ironic due to his brother’s “center-left” political views and staunch anti-racism.

    “If you had asked me who is one of racism’s most powerful foes, I would have said Bret Weinstein,” Eric Weinstein told The Times. “There’s something sort of ‘Twilight Zone’ about one of the most thoughtful commentators on race, at one of the most progressive schools in the country, getting called a racist.”
     
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/25/evergreen-state-students-demand-professor-resign-f/

    As far as content goes, it's really no different than the saga of Halloween costumes at Yale in 2015, also a case of being devoured by one's own offspring:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IEFD_JVYd0

    Thanks for that! I always appreciate someone doing the research I’m too lazy to do :-)

    I’ll make another prediction based upon experience, with even greater confidence: Weinstein won’t learn anything from this experience and will in the end remain as stupidly conformist and antiracist, as pathetically apologetic and appeasing, as he was before this evidently uncharacteristic outbreak of personal rebelliousness.

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  46. Agent76 says:

    Jun 14, 2016 100% PROOF Orlando Shooting Was a STAGED HOAX

    MANY LINKS OF MORE PROOF BELOW: THE SUN WROTE ABOUT THIS HAPPENING 6 HOURS BEFORE IT HAPPENED.

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    What would even be the point of staging such a hoax? That incident didn't change anything, nor did any other incident.

    After each and every Islamist terror atrocity, everything stays the same. The pathetic apologists go ahead and do their thing. People who mistrust Islam still mistrust Islam. Idiots who think that US foreign policy is to blame continue to think that US foreign policy is to blame. Idiots who think that only a "tiny minority" hold radical views continue to think that. Huffington Post continues to tell us that the real problem is not the dozens of smoldering bodies, it is the "backlash" where someone got called a name in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Since nothing changes, what is even the point?
  47. biz says:
    @jilles dykstra
    In 2004 the King of Jordan, the ruling Saud at the time in Saudi Arabia, and Mucharraf in Pakistan all told senator Hollings that the only way to end terrorism was to establish peace between Israel and the Palestinians.
    Since 2004 the west did nothing for peace, on the contrary, efforts to destabilise the ME, and North Africa continued, an were intensified.
    Deradicalisation is making Muslims believe that what they see happening is not happening.
    It may succeed in a few cases, but it so me seems impossible in general.
    So attacks in the west will continue, it is, as Mearsheimer and Walt write 'the strategy of the weak'.
    On top of that, the west needs terrorism, if necessary does it herself, in order to make the western societies more totalitarian all the time 'for our safety'.
    The destabilisation in ME and N Africa causes massive migration, the destabilisation of the European countries is welcome, in order to create an Europe, a USA clone.

    In 2004 the King of Jordan, the ruling Saud at the time in Saudi Arabia, and Mucharraf in Pakistan all told senator Hollings that the only way to end terrorism was to establish peace between Israel and the Palestinians.

    They would, of course, have no incentive to lie and could not possibly be mistaken.

    I wonder what the victims of Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines or Al Shabbab in Kenya think of the hypothesis that all Islamic terrorism stems from the Israeli-Arab conflict.

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  48. Randal says:
    @German_reader
    No, his point was that he's fine with children and teenage girls attending decadent pop concerts being killed or maimed by Islamist terrorists.
    Now personally I'm pretty disgusted as well by creatures like Ariana Grande and the decadent anti-culture they're promoting. It's certainly disturbing that children and teenagers look up to her as a sort of role model (wouldn't surprise me if that slut culture was a factor in conditioning girls for being "groomed" by Pakistani abusers and the like). These girls need firm moral guidance. But expressing sympathy for our Islamist enemies is just perverse.

    His comment went too far, perhaps as hyperbole, when he endorsed murder, for certain.

    On the other hand, he was not really expressing sympathy for the islamists per se as much as expressing agreement with some of their positions, and that is certainly not unacceptable, treasonous or perverse, unless you think we should allow our opinions to be determined by what (a particular brand of) terrorists think.

    That’s a common trend in the modern US sphere, unfortunately (we must embrace sexual perversion and general degenerate decadence or we are the same as sunni muslim terrorists), to the ludicrous extent that we are now told that opinions and attitudes that the vast majority of our ancestors up until a couple of generations ago would have regarded as disgusting or contemptible at best and abominations at worst are “British values” or “European” or “western” values that we must defend to the death, and even murder foreigners in order to impose them in their countries.

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    That’s a common trend in the modern US sphere, unfortunately (we must embrace sexual perversion and general degenerate decadence or we are the same as sunni muslim terrorists)
     
    That's true of course, and I'm annoyed by those trends as well. However, I do believe it's a mistake to feel any sympathy for even aspects of the Islamist programme. I assume "Anonymous" here wasn't entirely serious (at least I hope so), but on a less extreme level many social conservatives, especially those of a Christian background, seem to have some sort of admiration for Islam and are hoping for an alliance with Muslims against the degeneracy of our own societies (e.g. you mentioned Rod Dreher, there are sometimes elements of that in his writing and among his commenters). I think that's a dangerous delusion. Islam is a threat, Muslim organizations are working for the subversion of our societies (and are arguably much more dangerous than communists were during the Cold war...while too much tolerance was afforded to communists and left-wing extremists then, at least anti-communism was a respectable opinion back then...whereas today criticism of Islam is verboten and makes you an unperson), and in any case the similarities between even more traditional Western morality and Islam are superficial imo...e.g. Islam is fine with something like polygamy after all which is totally un-European.
    Ariana Grande and the like should probably be banned (freedom of speech should exist for serious ideas, not such pornographic displays...it's probably not a coincidence that ever more extreme displays of such decadence become mainstreamed, while real political freedom becomes a thing of the past). But my views of Islam remain unaffected by this.
  49. Dr. X says:

    I think England’s too far gone. If the tide can be turned over there, it will be turned only with blood.

    I doubt that’ll happen.

    It’s no coincidence that the British, who enjoyed fairly liberal gun rights until fifty or sixty years ago (the 1688 English Bill of Rights included gun rights) have been disarmed almost as effectively as the USSR was, and that the disarmament of the British public coincided neatly with the rise of the multiculturalist nanny state.

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  50. Too bad that Derb invariably glosses over the fact the the UK invaded and bombed and helped destroy one of the most prosperous nations in all of Africa. This fact doesn’t matter?

    Zio-NATO’s 2011 attack on Libya was not only a war crime, it produced waves of destitute refugees who subsequently poured into Europe.

    When ‘civilized’ nations like the US and UK commit mass murder, there it going to be blowback.

    If we insist that Muslims’ (in this case, Libyans) respect our borders, we must do the same regarding their borders. (See: borders, aggressive war, international law).

    Why doesn’t Derb understand this? He pretends to be civilized.

    Is Derb’s outrage a product of mendacity or simpleminded hypocrisy?

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    • Agree: Druid
    • Replies: @biz
    What about the ongoing Islamist terror campaigns in southern Thailand and the Philippines, directed largely at Buddhists and tribal villagers? How about the slow motion genocide of Melanesians in Irian Jaya at the hands of Indonesian Muslims? Al Shabab slaughtering black Kenyans in a mall? Are your 'zio-natos' responsible for those too?
    , @Vinteuil
    John Derbyshire quite unambiguously opposed our intervention in Libya.

    So what are you on about?
    , @L.K
    Mark: "Is Derb’s outrage a product of mendacity or simpleminded hypocrisy?"

    At this stage, Mark, I can only conclude that it is mendacity. I mean, for one thing, there are plenty of even quite msm sources documenting the British government long support for radical Islam, when it's suited its interests. Same is true for ZUSA and of course, Israel.
    For example, a retired German army officer( MoA ), has recently written about the Manchester attack, notice the many msm sources he uses:

    Details Emerge On The Manchester Blowback From Britain's Terror Support

    " There are now a few more details on the Manchester attack and how it relates to British support for Takfirs in its wars on independent countries in the Middle East and elsewhere. The picture has not changed though from the one we painted yesterday. The attack was a blow back from the British use of Takfiris to take down governments it dislikes.

    In 2011 when the British, French and the U.S. waged war on Libya, the British government sent British-Libyan Takfiris to fight against the Libyan government forces:
    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/sorted-mi5-how-uk-government-sent-british-libyans-fight-gaddafi-1219906488

    Belal Younis, another British citizen who went to Libya, described how he was stopped under 'Schedule 7' counter-terrorism powers on his return to the UK after a visit to the country in early 2011. ...
    He said he was subsequently asked by an intelligence officer from MI5, the UK's domestic security agency: "Are you willing to go into battle?"
    "While I took time to find an answer he turned and told me the British government have no problem with people fighting against Gaddafi," he told MEE.

     

    Known Libyan radicals were released from control order in Britain, given their passports back and hauled off to Libya. There British special forces were on the ground and British fighter planes in the air to support their fighting against the legitimate Libyan government. MI-5, the domestic British spy service, "sorted" the fighters sent from Britain. The responsible British Home Secretary at that time? One Theresa May, now the British Prime Minister.

    The father of the Manchester assassin fought in Libya in a gang related to the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, a known al-Qaeda entity. His son, then 16 years old, joined him:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/manchester-bomber-fought-in-libya-1495662073

    In 2011, when Abedi was still a teenager, he traveled to Libya and fought alongside his father in a militia known as the Tripoli Brigade to oust Gadhafi as the revolts of the Arab Spring swept North Africa and the Middle East, a family friend said.

     

    The son returned to Manchester but became a well known danger to society. Members of Libyan exile society in Manchester reported him at least five times as a dangerous Jihadi to the local authorities. There were no reactions. Additionally:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/24/security-services-missed-five-opportunities-stop-manchester/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    " Abedi's own family background might also have been a red flag to authorities. His father was a member of the militant Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.
    ...
    France’s interior minister said the 22-year-old had “proven” links with Islamic State and that both British and French intelligence services had information that the attacker had been in Syria.

     

    According to the Financial Times Salman Abedi came back to Britain a few days before the attack via Turkey and Germany. He had come from Libya to Turkey but probably stayed a few days in Syria to receive his last orders.

    All these attacks by Takfiris, in Paris, in Brussels, Berlin and Manchester as well as in Libya, Syria and Iraq, have their ideological roots in Wahhabism, the extreme version of Salafist Islam promoted in Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The roots of such terrorism are in Riyadh and Doha and will have to be fought there.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/manchester-attack-salman-abedi-salafi-jihadism-wahhabism-isis-al-qaeda-islam-muslim-suicide-bombing-a7754301.html
    But the Saudi and Qatari rulers pay extraordinary amounts of protection money in the form of weapon purchases from British and U.S. companies. As long as they keep doing so they will be kept in place as useful props in the bigger scheme.

    For the ruling classes in Britain and elsewhere the victims in Manchester are just collateral damage in their quest to rule the world with help of the Wahhabi storm troopers. ...
  51. Agent76 says:

    Jun 27, 2016 What Does G4S Know About the Orlando Nightclub Massacre?

    Much has been made in recent weeks of Omar Mateen’s background. The perpetrator of the Orlando, Fla., massacre was alternately a “radical Islamist,” a deeply closeted gay man, a wife abuser, a mental case, everybody’s best friend in high school and a loser. The list goes on. But what the mainstream media—and the government, for that matter—have not talked about is the fact that Mateen was employed at the time of his crime by G4S, a London-based company that is one of the largest mercenary firms in the world, with intelligence contractors deployed in war zones and hot spots around the globe.

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/what_does_g4s_know_about_the_orlando_nightclub_massacre_20160627/

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  52. Corvinus says:
    @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    “If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.”

    Exactly what I thought. Justify the murder of people because you oppose the ways they express themselves culturally. Listen, why don’t YOU man up and actually do something about the situation rather than be an armchair warrior?

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Exactly what I thought. Justify the murder of people because you oppose the ways they express themselves culturally.

    LOL. The murder was committed by someone made possible by globalism. Globalism destoyed the Middle East and let in angry refugees and Muslims. Globalism calls for sexual imperialism and conquest of white wombs by Africans. Globalism calls for turning white females into sluts and sex meat for non-white men from earliest age possible. This isn't mere 'cultural expression'. It is culture war as tool of globalists to turn white females into race traitors and horizontal collaborators of the enemy.

    Pop culture is no longer just entertainment. It is a propaganda tool used by globalists to destroy nationalism and racial preservation. It is a terrorism on the soul and mind.

    Globalism murdered tons of Muslims in the Middle East. It then brings those Muslims to the West and turns them onto black thug culture and the PC of anti-whiteness. PC defends both Sharia and whore culture. it makes NO sense and is animated by destructive agenda against the West.

    Globalists brought this mess onto themselves. What is pathetic is that white minds have been sop colonized by the glob virus that they send their kids to concerts to be turned into sluts whose wombs are to be offered to Africans. Cuck Britain.

    And YOU are a race traitor.
    , @res
    I'm curious, Corvinus, at what point does this aspect of your shtick become incitement to violence?
  53. Corvinus says:
    @m___
    Not terrorism, war-games (primitive Muslim terrorism, structured terrorism on the side of the West)...It is the breeding and non-breeding that is dangerous to "Western values", the disconnect between Enlightenment, and actual social and political distortions on the Western side (nihilism, abject ego-centrism, consumerism, the holy cow of democracy entwined with capitalism) and low IQ propaganda on the Muslim side, as to conquering the world once over using breeding, as if that would wane the real problems unrecognized, unprioritized by any of the "elites" globally.

    Whatever, the masses, the simpletons, the bulk of humanity needs steering, none of ours truly "priviledged", the "nobility" of human worlds, has the physical courage, the individual potential (IQ, and consequently logical and ethical capacity) to cope with complexity. Neither do we as a group(s), from the White House, Chamber of Lords, Yurga, Nation State X, the pompous UN, and least of all as a group the intellectuals, scientists, academics of our (short) age. No entity, by default Islam being less structured politically, in the Islamic world takes responsibility either for including the complexity exposed by two thousand years more years of living and experimenting since Mohammad was noted to the Koran.

    Being non-religious, the Potential structures need to take "God" like responsibility or doom or relief (whatever your psychological mindset) is at the doorsteps of our times. Human nature needs to be "tweaked" not socially, that is proven by ages (that we do not have) too slow due to our biological creep, but by far more abrupt means of genetic biology, artificial intelligence. War and other social and political chess play is obsolete, too slow, blunt as to cope with the rhythm of planetary chaos (human, and nature induced).

    Migration, pollution, toxicity, growth economy, population dynamics, etc. as they show up in myriad cause-consequence sequels are not problems to be smothered by social and political engineering, locally, and by high interference of individual careerism and public utility, but hard and sober scientific biddings to be solved by engineering humanity, starting the elites, into distinct critters ready to write algorithms so AI can do it's sorting. Not google for pushing products, converting individuals into products, preserve short term priveledges but google for insight and decision making by brute force exclusion of flawed concepts.

    No muslim wants to hear of genetically favouring the unborn for intelligence, higher capacitation, quality. Oddly so the West has the same taboo prevalence (and the elites are meant), as to it either.

    Is is evident that the "God" the religious among us long for, needs to be us, by lack of other tangents. It is evident that systemically made to float elites are not the right kind of nuclei to build and sustain a planet on, let alone to grasp a wider view of the universe, or on the other side grasp the infinitely small.

    The "good" thing is, whatever we do, we cannot go wrong!

    m___

    “Whatever, the masses, the simpletons, the bulk of humanity needs steering, none of ours truly “priviledged”, the “nobility” of human worlds, has the physical courage, the individual potential (IQ, and consequently logical and ethical capacity) to cope with complexity. ”

    So, do YOU have this ability to “cope” compared to us “simpletons”? So, why don’t you offer your advice on this matter as a public service announcement…

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    Well, at least you got one thing right.

    You *are* a simpleton.
    , @m___
    One considers oneself inapt as to providing all of the practical solutions, not individuals nor groups can. None of our elites, whether you count me in or not, as individuals or as in structured groups can. Hence my comment as a whole.

    That said, the extracted need to repeat the same statement of mine, is obvious a flaw on your behalf. Comprehension or non-comprehension, then short bursts of emotional rightness as yours, illustrate potential, the lack of it. I am sure you have spent the last years thinking about similar questions, as to what is relevant, is not, is urgent, what urgency means to relevancy, where and how to asses reality, what quality of life means.
  54. Che Guava says:
    @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    You may be right about Ariana Grande’s shows.

    I have no idea of her songs. They are likely crap, as you say.

    Checking some photos of her and her fans, it is obvious that both her style and fans were a key in target selection.

    You are a moron to compare that sleaze to the murderer.

    In the few photos I viewed, she is clearly wearing tights, so not near-nude, as she would like to project.

    Your comment is moronic, comparison is evil.

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    Pop Culture has been weaponized.

    madonna as interracist whore and 'pussy march' leader and her ilk have done more harm than a handful of terrorists.

    Terrorists kill a few hundred per year.

    Weaponized celebrities are globo agents who colonize the minds of 100s of millions of whites into accepting slut culture, interracism, 'diversity', jungle fever, ACOWW, pederasty, 'gay marriage', 'inclusion', cuckery, etc.

    Indeed, the reason why Manchester let in all those foreigners and continues to self-hug itself with ugly anti-racist pseudo-virtue is because its people have been mentally colonized by PC and pop culture.

    Colonization of minds is more dangerous than killing a few.
    Romans defeated the Jews and oppressed the Christians, but Christians colonized Roman minds and Christians won. Romans fed few 100s of Christians to lions, but Christians colonized the minds of millions of Romans. Today's mass media spread not only ideas but idols on a global scale to billions of people.

    Pop Culture and PC are weaponized globalist jihad. Pop Culture is no longer just for fun or a diversion. It is the MAIN culture for most white kids. Kids worship celebrities as angels of globalism.
    Those young white girls at the concert were being mentally colonized and sensually manipulated into open borders for immigrant invaders and open vaginas for black Africans.

    The concert was a propaganda act of war.

    Culture matters. This is why the Progs and Glob tear down Confederate statues in the South. It is why they make movies like GET OUT, which are far more dangerous than terror bombings. Terror kills a few 100. Pop Culture or Prop Culture(as it is propaganda) colonize hundreds of millions of white hearts/minds and EFFECTIVELY MURDER the patriot soul-spirit within them.
    Soul-Murder of whites makes whites welcome invasion and their own racial-territorial demise.

    If you want to know why Manchester welcomed so much invasion and continue to do so after the bombing, it is because white minds have been colonized by PC and Pop Culture.
    Indeed, these mentally-colonized whites hate terror bombings not because such attacks are consequences of invasion but because they may strengthen the nationalists who oppose immigrant-invasion.
    Why do whites welcome immigrant-invasion? Because they've been mentally colonized by PC and Pop Culture that says being a white woman means to whore out to the world.

    Suppose Nazis hadn't dropped bombs in UK in WWII but only propaganda material from the air and succeeded in winning over the hearts and minds of millions of Brits. That would have been more damaging.

    It's like US took over so many nations with the 'soft power' of media, academia, and entertainment. Take over minds, you take over souls. The mind-colonized become your slaves.

    Progs know the true meaning of culture as political instrument. This is why they denounce D.W. Griffith's THE BIRTH OF A NATION. They see it as more than just a movie. They see it as proud statement of white racial consciousness. This is why they wage culture war. Culture is a weapon. And as mass media has access to every home via the TV, the TV is the open gate thru which the globalisys get to attack and colonize your minds.
    Why did Jews react so harshly to PASSION OF THE CHRIST? They saw it as Culture War in favor of Christian Pride and Jewish Guilt. Why won't Hollywood make a movie about Nakba or Knoxville Massacre? Because they can be propaganda against Jewish power.

    How did the West come to accept 'gay marriage'? Colonization of white minds via Pop Culture and PC. PC and Pop Culture are globo-jihad.
    They can also be violent. Look at BLM. Look at 'spreading democracy'. Look at destruction of Libya and coup in Ukraine. Look at destruction of Christian businesses for not baking 'gay wedding cake'. Globalism uses both soft jihad and hard jihad. Indeed, even the unleashing of ISIS and Alqaeda is the result of globalism's war on enemies of Israel. Zionist-globalists undermined Arab regimes and let ISIS run riot to mess things up. Thus, Islmic Jihadis are both agents of globalism and its enemy(as Muslims hate western degeneracy).
    Anyway, the real shame is that whites acquiesced to defeat at hands of globalists without resitance and violence.
    I think part of the reason why white rightists rag on Muslim terrorists is this: Muslims have guts enough to resist globalism(even as they've been enabled by it). In contrast, even white patriots make a lot of noise but are afraid to take real action.

    There was a time when whites would have used violence against those who'd dare to stick homo flags in churches, push 'gay marriage' and destroy Christian bakers, and tear down Confederate statues.

    But whites, even right wing ones, don't fight back but only complain NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY ARE HUMILIATED, ABUSED, AND ATTACKED. Only the Alt Right did some pushing back at Berkeley.

    So, when they see the courage of Muslim terrorists, they call them 'losers' and 'cowards'.
    Really? The real cowards are whites who do nothing while General Lee statue is torn down. Real cowards are whites who do nothing while Trump reneges on all his promises. Real cowards are white men who raise their girls to whore out to Negroes. Real cowards are white men who let freaks turn big cities into homo celebration centers and invoke homomania as 'western value' that must be defended from Muslims. Real cowards are whites who praise Jewish globalists who are behind homomania, the attack on Confederate culture, open borders, and Afro-colonization of white wombs.

    Compared to these loser white cowards, at least Muslim terrorists take action against globalist filth.

    A Palestinian child with a rock in west Bank has more guts than all white men in the West who cuck out to Jewish globalists, homo freaks, and black thugs.

    White fathers who let their girls attend that concert are far worse scum than the terrorist who blew it up.
  55. annamaria says:
    @Cyrano
    The west has two faces in regards to the middle east. One is kind, welcoming and accepting refugees and immigrants from the ME. The other face of the west is also supposedly kind – it goes to Muslim counties and helps them get rid of dictators – although nobody asked them to, but I guess kindness cannot be contained. Unfortunately, in the process of helping them reach the pinnacle of human achievement – democracy – the west wrecks country after country in the ME. My point is that both faces of the west are phony. You can’t be kind and cruel at the same time. It just doesn’t work that way. One overrides the other and can’t be counterbalanced by phoniness.

    ” You can’t be kind and cruel at the same time.”

    The west has never had any desire to bring democracy to the Middle East (that was a normative lying by the bloody Clinton et al). Look at the ongoing romance between western countries and Saudis and Qatari. As for the policies of western countries, they are not necessarily in these countries’ interests. For instance, “having ISIS in power in Damascus would actually be something that the Israelis want.” This statement is easily supported by public pronouncements of Israeli brass.
    Or this, ” the US unleashed ISIS and now can’t control them.” The ISIS was actually birthed by the US-created Al Qaeda.

    https://solari.com/00archive/web/solarireports/2017/sr20170427_Saker.pdf

    What else should we expect from a country that lets Condi, Wolfi, and Cheney wander around without a tight supervision, while concocting illegitimate convictions against Assange, a courageous journalist and whistleblower? Condi, Wolfi, and Cheney (and Obama and Hillary) are major war criminals and enemies of humanity at large. Their supposedly humanitarian concerns (“kindness”) have been always, and without exception, the profiteering schemes.

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    • Replies: @Druid
    Totally agree. This cabal only seems to be off the stage. Their legacy continues in both parties
  56. Seneca44 says:
    @unit472
    No doubt the murderer Abedi chose his target well. Western pop culture threatens Islam a helluva of a lot more than democracy or capitalism. It is assimilative and transcends race and national borders. Its not possible to put this genie back in the bottle. That battle was lost with Elvis and the Beatles. Today we have terrorists who, before they donned their bomb vests, were aspiring rappers. I was flabbergasted watching the TV show 'Snapped". It featured an Afghan girl in Southern California who became a meth freak, topless dancer and then murdered her mother when she objected to her daughter's lifestyle.

    If I ran the CIA I would put my efforts into creating an Islamic Ariana Grande or forming some 'boy group' Saudi tweens would go crazy over. Let the devout Muslim mom and dad experience the 'generation gap'.

    Brilliant idea and it wouldn’t cost much to mount such an operation in CIA terms. The pure and obvious potential benefit of such a project means it will likely never be funded.

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  57. I’m a pessimist. There is not enough opposition to stop it from happening here. See how the left uses hate to wipe out.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/

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  58. @Anon
    If Australia and Canada don't stop Chinese immigration, they might end up looking like third-rate Kazakhstan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvwjdOueSIA

    Or maybe they'll be turned into Hindustan.

    How did Anglos get so dumb?

    Rubbish. It’s a matter of quality control and I haven’t met or seen an Indian or. Chinese immigrant in Australia who wasn’t almost certainly raising the average IQ. Not a 100 per cent guarantee of all round success amd benefit (cf. Jews in Russia from the partition of Poland onwards) but it’s a lot better than US ethnic mixes.

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    There are lots of smart chinese, indians, and jews, and many other people. That doesn't mean we need another hundred million of their fellow countrymen.
  59. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Corvinus
    "If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing."

    Exactly what I thought. Justify the murder of people because you oppose the ways they express themselves culturally. Listen, why don't YOU man up and actually do something about the situation rather than be an armchair warrior?

    Exactly what I thought. Justify the murder of people because you oppose the ways they express themselves culturally.

    LOL. The murder was committed by someone made possible by globalism. Globalism destoyed the Middle East and let in angry refugees and Muslims. Globalism calls for sexual imperialism and conquest of white wombs by Africans. Globalism calls for turning white females into sluts and sex meat for non-white men from earliest age possible. This isn’t mere ‘cultural expression’. It is culture war as tool of globalists to turn white females into race traitors and horizontal collaborators of the enemy.

    Pop culture is no longer just entertainment. It is a propaganda tool used by globalists to destroy nationalism and racial preservation. It is a terrorism on the soul and mind.

    Globalism murdered tons of Muslims in the Middle East. It then brings those Muslims to the West and turns them onto black thug culture and the PC of anti-whiteness. PC defends both Sharia and whore culture. it makes NO sense and is animated by destructive agenda against the West.

    Globalists brought this mess onto themselves. What is pathetic is that white minds have been sop colonized by the glob virus that they send their kids to concerts to be turned into sluts whose wombs are to be offered to Africans. Cuck Britain.

    And YOU are a race traitor.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    Listen, Priss Factor/Anonym/War For Blair Mountain and other sock puppets galore...

    "The murder was committed by someone made possible by globalism."

    Globalism is a phenomenon that began when man moved from place to place several thousand years ago.

    "Globalism calls for sexual imperialism and conquest of white wombs by Africans."

    It promotes no such thing.

    "It is culture war as tool of globalists to turn white females into race traitors and horizontal collaborators of the enemy."

    You're forgetting one key part here--free will. Men and women have the liberty to make their own decisions. You seek to take away one's freedom. Why are you a Fascist?

    "Pop culture is no longer just entertainment. It is a propaganda tool used by globalists to destroy nationalism and racial preservation. It is a terrorism on the soul and mind."

    Thank you for your opinion on this matter.

    "Globalism murdered tons of Muslims in the Middle East. It then brings those Muslims to the West and turns them onto black thug culture and the PC of anti-whiteness. PC defends both Sharia and whore culture. it makes NO sense and is animated by destructive agenda against the West."

    Thank for your opinion on this matter.

    "Globalists brought this mess onto themselves. What is pathetic is that white minds have been sop colonized by the glob virus that they send their kids to concerts to be turned into sluts whose wombs are to be offered to Africans. Cuck Britain."

    Just for once could you actually say you are going to do something of substance about this situation rather than lament about it.

    "And YOU are a race traitor."

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.
    , @rw95
    "YOU are a race traitor."

    Shall we not talk about the man who wrote this article? A man married to a Chinese woman and who has half-Chinese children?

    If you want to talk about "race treason," the Derb fits that category pretty well, wouldn't you say?

  60. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Diversity Heretic
    Your comment is a summary of the message of Michel Houellebec's novel Soumission. In the case of Islam, the cure is worse than the disease. We need to keep the Muslims out of it, and straighten up our societal mess ourselves.

    I don’t see Islam as a cure. I don’t care for it.

    But if Muslims want to bomb and attack globalism, that’s fine by me.

    They are doing the job that white patriots are too afraid to do.

    Algeria and Vietnam both freed themselves from foreign invasion through terrorism and war.

    All true patriots must go Cong, as in Viet Cong.

    Muslims are invaders too, and their entry into the West has been made possible by globalism. But they also sense that globalism is a means to turn their daughters into sex sluts of black Africans. At the very least, they resist that. In contrast, white fathers worship the very Negroes who conquer and colonize their daughters’wombs.

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    Not any White man I've ever met. What kind of White men do you know?
  61. @Randal
    His comment went too far, perhaps as hyperbole, when he endorsed murder, for certain.

    On the other hand, he was not really expressing sympathy for the islamists per se as much as expressing agreement with some of their positions, and that is certainly not unacceptable, treasonous or perverse, unless you think we should allow our opinions to be determined by what (a particular brand of) terrorists think.

    That's a common trend in the modern US sphere, unfortunately (we must embrace sexual perversion and general degenerate decadence or we are the same as sunni muslim terrorists), to the ludicrous extent that we are now told that opinions and attitudes that the vast majority of our ancestors up until a couple of generations ago would have regarded as disgusting or contemptible at best and abominations at worst are "British values" or "European" or "western" values that we must defend to the death, and even murder foreigners in order to impose them in their countries.

    That’s a common trend in the modern US sphere, unfortunately (we must embrace sexual perversion and general degenerate decadence or we are the same as sunni muslim terrorists)

    That’s true of course, and I’m annoyed by those trends as well. However, I do believe it’s a mistake to feel any sympathy for even aspects of the Islamist programme. I assume “Anonymous” here wasn’t entirely serious (at least I hope so), but on a less extreme level many social conservatives, especially those of a Christian background, seem to have some sort of admiration for Islam and are hoping for an alliance with Muslims against the degeneracy of our own societies (e.g. you mentioned Rod Dreher, there are sometimes elements of that in his writing and among his commenters). I think that’s a dangerous delusion. Islam is a threat, Muslim organizations are working for the subversion of our societies (and are arguably much more dangerous than communists were during the Cold war…while too much tolerance was afforded to communists and left-wing extremists then, at least anti-communism was a respectable opinion back then…whereas today criticism of Islam is verboten and makes you an unperson), and in any case the similarities between even more traditional Western morality and Islam are superficial imo…e.g. Islam is fine with something like polygamy after all which is totally un-European.
    Ariana Grande and the like should probably be banned (freedom of speech should exist for serious ideas, not such pornographic displays…it’s probably not a coincidence that ever more extreme displays of such decadence become mainstreamed, while real political freedom becomes a thing of the past). But my views of Islam remain unaffected by this.

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    Islam is a threat,
     
    Is Iran a threat to Europe? Is Indonesia (the largest "Islamic" country in terms of population)?

    The real Islamic threat, such as it is, is that propagated by Saudi Arabia, a country which is embraced with open arms by Western governments (and their arms industries). And which for some time now has had a de facto alliance (or "united front" if you like) with Israel.
  62. annamaria says:
    @LauraMR
    Sure, lack of assimilation is the culprit but as a "truther" might say, this could well be an operation carried out by the deep state. Indeed, someone put this kid up to this, supplied explosives and logistics, so perhaps it was an Israeli plot, for certain some Anglo-Zionist one percenter must be behind all of this. Naturally, as it is often published here, white Europeans are superior to all other races so the kid was by virtue of ancestry a lesser, defective human being to begin with...

    Your hunch is more likely correct.
    From the Voltaire site: http://www.voltairenet.org/article196455.html
    “Salman Abedi was born in the UK of a family of Libyan immigrants.
    His father Ramadan Abedi is a former officer in [Gaddafi’s] Libyan Intelligence Services. He specialised in the surveillance of the Islamist movement, but two decades later has failed to notice that his son has joined Daesh (IS).
    In 1992, Ramadan Abedi was sent to Libya by Britain’s MI6 and was involved in a British-devised plot to assassinate Muammar Gaddafi. The operation having been readily exposed, he was exfiltrated by MI6 and transferred back to the UK where he obtained political asylum.
    In 1994, Ramadan Abedi returned to Libya under MI6’s direction. In late 1995 he was involved in the creation of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a local branch of Al-Qaeda. Nobody pays attention to the fact that Ramadan Abedi has linked LIFG members to the formation of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and, in 2011, he takes part in MI6’s ‘Arab Spring’ operations, and in LIFG’s role on the ground in support of NATO”

    Also, from The Solari Report: https://solari.com/00archive/web/solarireports/2017/sr20170427_Saker.pdf
    “…having ISIS in power in Damascus would actually be something that the Israelis want. For one thing, it gives them a wonderful pretext to establish a security zone. It could be the Golan Heights or more of the Golan Heights, or even to try to push up to the Litani River. They know that ISIS is a mortal enemy of Hezbollah, so it’s superb. They can hope for a civil war in Lebanon. That can only be achieved if they destabilize Lebanon as with Syria.
    Finally, Assad is the only hope for a unitary Syrian state, which they [Israelis] don’t want.”

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    Nobody seems to know that before 1500 Islam was tolerant, and welcomed science.
    Even the Ottoman empire was tolerant.
    The fanatical Islam is a western creation, the ayatollahs just got power in Iran after the west had overthrown democratic Iran twice, in 1911 and 1953.

    Ibn Battúta, 'Travels in Asia and Africa 1325 - 1354', 1929, 1983, London

    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992

    W. Morgan Shuster, ´The strangling of Persia, Story of the European diplomacy and oriental intrigue that resulted in the denationalisation of twelve million Mohammedans’, New York, 1912

    Roy Mottahedeh, ‘The Mantle of the Prophet, Religion and Politics in Iran’, Oxford, 1985, 2000
    , @LauraMR
    There you go.
  63. biz says:
    @Agent76
    Jun 14, 2016 100% PROOF Orlando Shooting Was a STAGED HOAX

    MANY LINKS OF MORE PROOF BELOW: THE SUN WROTE ABOUT THIS HAPPENING 6 HOURS BEFORE IT HAPPENED.

    https://youtu.be/vhUh8yWdGDw

    What would even be the point of staging such a hoax? That incident didn’t change anything, nor did any other incident.

    After each and every Islamist terror atrocity, everything stays the same. The pathetic apologists go ahead and do their thing. People who mistrust Islam still mistrust Islam. Idiots who think that US foreign policy is to blame continue to think that US foreign policy is to blame. Idiots who think that only a “tiny minority” hold radical views continue to think that. Huffington Post continues to tell us that the real problem is not the dozens of smoldering bodies, it is the “backlash” where someone got called a name in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Since nothing changes, what is even the point?

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    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    "What would even be the point of staging such a hoax? That incident didn’t change anything, nor did any other incident."

    That is the crucial question that none of these guys can ever answer. What was the point? What were these supposed false flaggers trying to achieve?

    "After each and every Islamist terror atrocity, everything stays the same. The pathetic apologists go ahead and do their thing. People who mistrust Islam still mistrust Islam. Idiots who think that US foreign policy is to blame continue to think that US foreign policy is to blame. Idiots who think that only a “tiny minority” hold radical views continue to think that. Huffington Post continues to tell us that the real problem is not the dozens of smoldering bodies, it is the “backlash” where someone got called a name in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Since nothing changes, what is even the point?"

    Couldn't put it any better myself.

    These false flaggers are supposed to be, at one and the same time (1) so omni-competent that they can pass off as real a gigantic theatrical event involving hundreds, or even thousands, of actors, with the full complicity of the American media - and, (2) so in-competent that they never notice that none of these events ever have the slightest effect on American policy, foreign or domestic.
  64. Bel Riose says:
    @Corvinus
    "Whatever, the masses, the simpletons, the bulk of humanity needs steering, none of ours truly “priviledged”, the “nobility” of human worlds, has the physical courage, the individual potential (IQ, and consequently logical and ethical capacity) to cope with complexity. "

    So, do YOU have this ability to "cope" compared to us "simpletons"? So, why don't you offer your advice on this matter as a public service announcement...

    Well, at least you got one thing right.

    You *are* a simpleton.

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  65. @syonredux
    RE: " absimilation,"

    I favor the Eddie Rickenbacker test. When the USA declared war on Germany in 1917, Rickenbacker, the son of Swiss-German immigrants, didn't go "Pan-German" and blow up a crowd of Americans. No, he enlisted in the army and fought the Germans in the air as a pilot:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker

    This Libyan fellow failed the test.

    Rickenbacker murdered Germans for no good reason, in a conflict that clearly was none of america’s business and clearly posed no threat to the USA at all. Sad that he felt that he had to do that to be a real American.

    But we might agree that islam makes its adherents inherently incapable of being loyal to a host nation/culture or trustworthy to nonMuslim people in a pinch.

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    Rickenbacker murdered Germans for no good reason,
     
    He fought Germans for the best of all possible reasons: Patriotism. His nation was at war with Germany, and he did his part. And, of course, his service was most exemplary:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker#Army_service



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker#Verified_aerial_victories
    , @Chris Mallory
    Yes, the US should have stayed out of WWI and WWII. But to call Rickenbacker a murderer is idiotic. He engaged in combat with other pilots.
  66. biz says:
    @Mark Green
    Too bad that Derb invariably glosses over the fact the the UK invaded and bombed and helped destroy one of the most prosperous nations in all of Africa. This fact doesn't matter?

    Zio-NATO's 2011 attack on Libya was not only a war crime, it produced waves of destitute refugees who subsequently poured into Europe.

    When 'civilized' nations like the US and UK commit mass murder, there it going to be blowback.

    If we insist that Muslims' (in this case, Libyans) respect our borders, we must do the same regarding their borders. (See: borders, aggressive war, international law).

    Why doesn't Derb understand this? He pretends to be civilized.

    Is Derb's outrage a product of mendacity or simpleminded hypocrisy?

    What about the ongoing Islamist terror campaigns in southern Thailand and the Philippines, directed largely at Buddhists and tribal villagers? How about the slow motion genocide of Melanesians in Irian Jaya at the hands of Indonesian Muslims? Al Shabab slaughtering black Kenyans in a mall? Are your ‘zio-natos’ responsible for those too?

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    The only country in the world where Muslims rule themselves is Iran.
    In all other countries, even Indonesia, Muslims are suppressed.
    Iran just became free in 1979.
    , @L.K
    biz == zionist Troll and obfuscator.
    , @Wally
    Yes, they arm them.
    , @KenH
    That's only because the Buddhists have bombed and invaded several Muslim nations. I'm just not certain of which ones. You must understand that Muslims are religion of peace people and only strike when their nations are bombed and invaded. If not for that they are essentially Gandhi like.
  67. @Cyrano
    The west has two faces in regards to the middle east. One is kind, welcoming and accepting refugees and immigrants from the ME. The other face of the west is also supposedly kind – it goes to Muslim counties and helps them get rid of dictators – although nobody asked them to, but I guess kindness cannot be contained. Unfortunately, in the process of helping them reach the pinnacle of human achievement – democracy – the west wrecks country after country in the ME. My point is that both faces of the west are phony. You can’t be kind and cruel at the same time. It just doesn’t work that way. One overrides the other and can’t be counterbalanced by phoniness.

    I suppose with oil at stake the West can’t adopt the genuine face of complete indifference (Muslims stay where you are, solve your own problems, or don’t, peacefully, or not) but it’s sure the one I’d like to see. I genuinely have no interest in who kills whom, or who governs whom in any of these countries.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    'Oil' is a diversionary strawman.

    Oil is everywhere, the US exports oil. We do not need ME oil at all. Europe does not need ME oil.
    In fact the oil countries need the West more than the West needs them. Oil can be bought from numerous sources worldwide at the same prices.

    Zionists promote the oil canard as a way to deflect from their obvious directing of US foreign policy that only benefits that "shitty little country".

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room
    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/

  68. @Swing
    And the bombing of Libya has nothing to do with it. Stop killing Muslims, and they will stop killing u. U killmy brother, I kill yours, u kill my kids I kill yours, simple logic.

    I don’t have anything against them targetting the Blair family.

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  69. @Randal
    This latest Manchester bombing is the perfect illustration of the twofold nature of the problem of invade the world/invite the world. Furthermore it comes on top of another similarly perfect illustration of that twofold nature, in the Orlando shootings. In both cases a 2nd generation immigrant whose parents were only here because it suited the US/UK regimes to have them here as oppositionist tools for the destabilisation and overthrow of foreign governments, who in each case openly declare the ongoing butchery our governments are responsible for in the ME and North Africa as direct motivating factors for their own violence, was enabled to attack their host nations by immigration.

    Derbyshire's piece does a good job of skewering the "invite the world" side of the issue, but ignores "invade the world".

    In 2011, you’ll recall, Barack Obama, prompted by the Three Horsegirls of the Apocalypse—Samantha Power of Obama’s National Security Council, his U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, and his Secretary of State Hillary Clinton—who in turn were prompted by Britain and France, with an assist from George Soros—overthrew Colonel Gaddafy.

    Salman Abedi’s parents thereupon, in 2011, returned to Libya. Salman Abedi, then 17, stayed in the U.K.
     
    That's barely the beginning of the story, with its murky elements of the UK regime's security forces using jihadist terrorism as a weapon for regime change in Libya and Syria, in which this family seem to have been up to their necks. Even the BBC reported on some of these murky aspects in the immediate aftermath of the bombing (though doubtless that line of inquiry will be quietly dropped, or suppressed).

    Manchester attack: Who was Salman Abedi?

    This was as clear a case of "blowback" as you'll get.

    John has in past columns expressed what I interpret as an anti-invasion policy: wall the Middle East off. The wall keeps them out of the west and keeps the west out of the Middle East. I concur. The West is following the worse strategy possible: invade Middle Eastern countries and kill Muslims, then invite Muslims with a grudge (sometimes justifiable) to settle here.

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    One must be very cynical to understand the western strategy.
    Destabilising ME and N Africa means that these areas are no threat to the west any more, the migrants destabilise the European cultures, so that the countries disappear, Europe a USA clone, where money rules, as it does in the USA.
    Thereafter, who can withstand USAEUNATO ?
    This is the Trump threat, he has other ideas.
  70. Dumbo says:

    Er… didn’t it happen already with Orlando, or was that an antigay false-flag?

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  71. @unit472
    No doubt the murderer Abedi chose his target well. Western pop culture threatens Islam a helluva of a lot more than democracy or capitalism. It is assimilative and transcends race and national borders. Its not possible to put this genie back in the bottle. That battle was lost with Elvis and the Beatles. Today we have terrorists who, before they donned their bomb vests, were aspiring rappers. I was flabbergasted watching the TV show 'Snapped". It featured an Afghan girl in Southern California who became a meth freak, topless dancer and then murdered her mother when she objected to her daughter's lifestyle.

    If I ran the CIA I would put my efforts into creating an Islamic Ariana Grande or forming some 'boy group' Saudi tweens would go crazy over. Let the devout Muslim mom and dad experience the 'generation gap'.

    Interesting concept but Muslim parents and the Muslim community will simply kill the CIA recruits.

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  72. We’re bombing them and they’re bombing us. Why is that so difficult to understand?

    US Sec of State Madeleine Albright said starving or otherwise murdering 500,000 Iraqi children was “worth it”.

    If Mr. Derbyshire can’t recognize Manchester and other attacks as blow back, he’s blind.

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    The west terrorises Muslims since 1500 !
    For example

    C.R. Boxer, ´The Dutch Seaborne Empire 1600 – 1800´, London 1965, 1977

    Winston Churchill, ‘The Story of the Malakand Field Force’, 1898, 2004, New York

    Ian Hernon, 'Britain's Forgotten Wars, Colonial Campaigns of the 19th Century', 2003, 2007, Chalford - Stroud

    Alan Friedman, ‘Spider’s Web, Bush, Saddam, Thatcher and the Decade of Deceit’, London, 1993
    , @Wally
    But millions of euro whites are not flooding into their cesspools called countries.

    If they had a problem with the US military the little cowards would stay and fight them.

    , @Paul Yarbles
    But in cases like this one they are supposed to be we. The problem is that that they never become we.
  73. @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    in the german media there was a lot of talk about how muslims now aim at children. Children were actually murdered, which is a special level of evil. But I could imagine that in the eyes of somebody with a more conservative upbringing, like the muslim terrorist probably had, this concert didn´t look at all like a children´s event, but rather like something between Christopher Street day and a Strip Club. That´s no justification at all, but maybe the terrorist did not especially aim at children.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    If he wanted to protest the porn singer wouldn't he have detonated the bomb inside, near the stage?

    Or instead of lurking near the audience exit, detonated the bomb near the performers exit as MS Grande came out?
  74. Wally says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    I suppose with oil at stake the West can't adopt the genuine face of complete indifference (Muslims stay where you are, solve your own problems, or don't, peacefully, or not) but it's sure the one I'd like to see. I genuinely have no interest in who kills whom, or who governs whom in any of these countries.

    ‘Oil’ is a diversionary strawman.

    Oil is everywhere, the US exports oil. We do not need ME oil at all. Europe does not need ME oil.
    In fact the oil countries need the West more than the West needs them. Oil can be bought from numerous sources worldwide at the same prices.

    Zionists promote the oil canard as a way to deflect from their obvious directing of US foreign policy that only benefits that “shitty little country”.

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/

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  75. @German_reader

    That’s a common trend in the modern US sphere, unfortunately (we must embrace sexual perversion and general degenerate decadence or we are the same as sunni muslim terrorists)
     
    That's true of course, and I'm annoyed by those trends as well. However, I do believe it's a mistake to feel any sympathy for even aspects of the Islamist programme. I assume "Anonymous" here wasn't entirely serious (at least I hope so), but on a less extreme level many social conservatives, especially those of a Christian background, seem to have some sort of admiration for Islam and are hoping for an alliance with Muslims against the degeneracy of our own societies (e.g. you mentioned Rod Dreher, there are sometimes elements of that in his writing and among his commenters). I think that's a dangerous delusion. Islam is a threat, Muslim organizations are working for the subversion of our societies (and are arguably much more dangerous than communists were during the Cold war...while too much tolerance was afforded to communists and left-wing extremists then, at least anti-communism was a respectable opinion back then...whereas today criticism of Islam is verboten and makes you an unperson), and in any case the similarities between even more traditional Western morality and Islam are superficial imo...e.g. Islam is fine with something like polygamy after all which is totally un-European.
    Ariana Grande and the like should probably be banned (freedom of speech should exist for serious ideas, not such pornographic displays...it's probably not a coincidence that ever more extreme displays of such decadence become mainstreamed, while real political freedom becomes a thing of the past). But my views of Islam remain unaffected by this.

    Islam is a threat,

    Is Iran a threat to Europe? Is Indonesia (the largest “Islamic” country in terms of population)?

    The real Islamic threat, such as it is, is that propagated by Saudi Arabia, a country which is embraced with open arms by Western governments (and their arms industries). And which for some time now has had a de facto alliance (or “united front” if you like) with Israel.

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    • Replies: @German_reader

    Is Iran a threat to Europe?
     
    Potentially it could be. I'm very much against any military intervention against Iran and would wish for an improvement in relations between Iran and the west, but still, we shouldn't have any illusions about its regime. They still occasionally execute people for religious "crimes" there and while one may regard that as internal matters that shouldn't concern us, it does preclude any warm feelings on my part for Iran's system. I certainly don't want to see them ever acquire nuclear weapons (even though I can see why they would want them, given their dangerous neighbourhood and the open agitation for regime change by influential networks in the US).
    You're of course right though that Saudi-Arabia is a much worse offender in many ways, and is especially influential because of its ill-deserved wealth and its control over Islam's holy sites. It's not even the only source of Islamic "fundamentalism" though (e.g. there's the Deobandi movement in South Asia which arose as a reaction to British colonialism in the 19th century...and has of course spread to the UK via subcontinental immigration). Turkey has also taken up an increasingly threatening anti-Western posture in line with its re-Islamization and has of course aided jihadi groups in Syria; it also seeks to spread its influence in Europe via Turkish communities and numerous organizations of an Islamic orientation. There's also the OIC (with 57 member states) which has promoted numerous initiatives for the criminalization of Islamophobia. So the problem goes beyond Saudi-Arabia imo.
    , @jilles dykstra
    End of 1944, Harold L Ickes, and early 1945, Roosevelt, made the Saud dynasty completely dependent of the USA.
    As long as the country does not become democratic, no threat whatsoever to us.
  76. Biff says:

    In this context of terrorism white people are just like Jews – always the innocent victim.

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  77. @Swing
    And the bombing of Libya has nothing to do with it. Stop killing Muslims, and they will stop killing u. U killmy brother, I kill yours, u kill my kids I kill yours, simple logic.

    And the bombing of Libya has nothing to do with it. Stop killing Muslims,

    Agree!

    and they will stop killing u.

    Disagree.

    Catch 22? Conundrum?

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    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    "Stop killing Muslims...

    Agree!

    and they will stop killing u.

    Disagree."

    That pretty much sums it up.
  78. Che Guava says:

    Respected Derb,

    if by ‘here’ you mean your adopted USA, it has already happened many times over.

    The Orlando club attack was most similar. As for method, Boston marathon.

    When saying ‘don’t let it happen here’, you really need to postfix ‘again’.

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  79. MBlanc46 says:
    @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    That’s a bit strong. It’s certainly the case that the pop cultural masses are implicated in the degradation and degeneration of Western society. But they’re mostly just useful idiots, at least, in their ignorance, sinned against as much as sinning. I shed few tears for them. But their complicity doesn’t in the least lessen my animosity toward their murderers. Or toward the elites who visit their murderers upon us.

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  80. @Willem
    I learned 2 things from this essay

    1. According to the author there is such a thing as 'Libyan authorities'

    2. According to the author, what the world needs now are more Ivanhoes to combat terrorism

    So according to the author's logic he should first become Ivanhoe and then combat terrorism together with Libyan authorities

    Perhaps a bit more realism as to the why's and how's and who's would be more appropriate to combat terrorism, wouldn't you think?

    But if the author really wants to become Ivanhoe, I won't stop him, as long as he doesn't try to persuade others to follow his 'example'. Actually, as far as I know the author isn't Ivanhoe. He just wants others to become Ivanhoe. I won't accept this offer.

    The author can’t become an Ivanhoe. His Chinese wife and offspring have compromised him. His wife and daughter were Obummer voters. They have “absimiliated” away from the West. He can’t have his children fight for the West because he is worried they might get hurt. But they wouldn’t do it anyway because they don’t identify with the West.

    He wrote that his son joined the US army. My hunch is he will meet an Asian woman and marry her and hopefully leave the USA.

    Derbyshire spouts about the West all the time but he and his offspring can do or will do nothing.

    These articles he writes are variations on Augustine’s confessions.

    But he is guilty of helping to destroy the West.

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    NE Asians, or even SE Asians (non-Muslim ones), aren't a problem. At all. What white person in his right mind could have a problem with epicanthic Asians? Especially in relation to other immigrant groups! So Derb's offspring and grandchildren will look more like Dean Caine or Johnny Depp than Patton Oswalt, Ricky Gervais or some other pasty-faced endomorph. I can live with that.
  81. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Che Guava
    You may be right about Ariana Grande's shows.

    I have no idea of her songs. They are likely crap, as you say.

    Checking some photos of her and her fans, it is obvious that both her style and fans were a key in target selection.

    You are a moron to compare that sleaze to the murderer.

    In the few photos I viewed, she is clearly wearing tights, so not near-nude, as she would like to project.

    Your comment is moronic, comparison is evil.

    Pop Culture has been weaponized.

    madonna as interracist whore and ‘pussy march’ leader and her ilk have done more harm than a handful of terrorists.

    Terrorists kill a few hundred per year.

    Weaponized celebrities are globo agents who colonize the minds of 100s of millions of whites into accepting slut culture, interracism, ‘diversity’, jungle fever, ACOWW, pederasty, ‘gay marriage’, ‘inclusion’, cuckery, etc.

    Indeed, the reason why Manchester let in all those foreigners and continues to self-hug itself with ugly anti-racist pseudo-virtue is because its people have been mentally colonized by PC and pop culture.

    Colonization of minds is more dangerous than killing a few.
    Romans defeated the Jews and oppressed the Christians, but Christians colonized Roman minds and Christians won. Romans fed few 100s of Christians to lions, but Christians colonized the minds of millions of Romans. Today’s mass media spread not only ideas but idols on a global scale to billions of people.

    Pop Culture and PC are weaponized globalist jihad. Pop Culture is no longer just for fun or a diversion. It is the MAIN culture for most white kids. Kids worship celebrities as angels of globalism.
    Those young white girls at the concert were being mentally colonized and sensually manipulated into open borders for immigrant invaders and open vaginas for black Africans.

    The concert was a propaganda act of war.

    Culture matters. This is why the Progs and Glob tear down Confederate statues in the South. It is why they make movies like GET OUT, which are far more dangerous than terror bombings. Terror kills a few 100. Pop Culture or Prop Culture(as it is propaganda) colonize hundreds of millions of white hearts/minds and EFFECTIVELY MURDER the patriot soul-spirit within them.
    Soul-Murder of whites makes whites welcome invasion and their own racial-territorial demise.

    If you want to know why Manchester welcomed so much invasion and continue to do so after the bombing, it is because white minds have been colonized by PC and Pop Culture.
    Indeed, these mentally-colonized whites hate terror bombings not because such attacks are consequences of invasion but because they may strengthen the nationalists who oppose immigrant-invasion.
    Why do whites welcome immigrant-invasion? Because they’ve been mentally colonized by PC and Pop Culture that says being a white woman means to whore out to the world.

    Suppose Nazis hadn’t dropped bombs in UK in WWII but only propaganda material from the air and succeeded in winning over the hearts and minds of millions of Brits. That would have been more damaging.

    It’s like US took over so many nations with the ‘soft power’ of media, academia, and entertainment. Take over minds, you take over souls. The mind-colonized become your slaves.

    Progs know the true meaning of culture as political instrument. This is why they denounce D.W. Griffith’s THE BIRTH OF A NATION. They see it as more than just a movie. They see it as proud statement of white racial consciousness. This is why they wage culture war. Culture is a weapon. And as mass media has access to every home via the TV, the TV is the open gate thru which the globalisys get to attack and colonize your minds.
    Why did Jews react so harshly to PASSION OF THE CHRIST? They saw it as Culture War in favor of Christian Pride and Jewish Guilt. Why won’t Hollywood make a movie about Nakba or Knoxville Massacre? Because they can be propaganda against Jewish power.

    How did the West come to accept ‘gay marriage’? Colonization of white minds via Pop Culture and PC. PC and Pop Culture are globo-jihad.
    They can also be violent. Look at BLM. Look at ‘spreading democracy’. Look at destruction of Libya and coup in Ukraine. Look at destruction of Christian businesses for not baking ‘gay wedding cake’. Globalism uses both soft jihad and hard jihad. Indeed, even the unleashing of ISIS and Alqaeda is the result of globalism’s war on enemies of Israel. Zionist-globalists undermined Arab regimes and let ISIS run riot to mess things up. Thus, Islmic Jihadis are both agents of globalism and its enemy(as Muslims hate western degeneracy).
    Anyway, the real shame is that whites acquiesced to defeat at hands of globalists without resitance and violence.
    I think part of the reason why white rightists rag on Muslim terrorists is this: Muslims have guts enough to resist globalism(even as they’ve been enabled by it). In contrast, even white patriots make a lot of noise but are afraid to take real action.

    There was a time when whites would have used violence against those who’d dare to stick homo flags in churches, push ‘gay marriage’ and destroy Christian bakers, and tear down Confederate statues.

    But whites, even right wing ones, don’t fight back but only complain NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY ARE HUMILIATED, ABUSED, AND ATTACKED. Only the Alt Right did some pushing back at Berkeley.

    So, when they see the courage of Muslim terrorists, they call them ‘losers’ and ‘cowards’.
    Really? The real cowards are whites who do nothing while General Lee statue is torn down. Real cowards are whites who do nothing while Trump reneges on all his promises. Real cowards are white men who raise their girls to whore out to Negroes. Real cowards are white men who let freaks turn big cities into homo celebration centers and invoke homomania as ‘western value’ that must be defended from Muslims. Real cowards are whites who praise Jewish globalists who are behind homomania, the attack on Confederate culture, open borders, and Afro-colonization of white wombs.

    Compared to these loser white cowards, at least Muslim terrorists take action against globalist filth.

    A Palestinian child with a rock in west Bank has more guts than all white men in the West who cuck out to Jewish globalists, homo freaks, and black thugs.

    White fathers who let their girls attend that concert are far worse scum than the terrorist who blew it up.

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    • Agree: Rurik
    • LOL: Alden
    • Replies: @Rurik

    A Palestinian child with a rock in west Bank has more guts than all white men in the West who cuck out to Jewish globalists, homo freaks, and black thugs.

    White fathers who let their girls attend that concert are far worse scum
     
    I often call them human urinals

    white "men" so filled with racial self-loathing that they symbolically allow themselves to be pissed on to mollify their excruciating self-hatred

    I condemn the terrorist with all my breath, but I have to admit, he isn't perhaps as morally execrable as the white men who sat by in Rotherham as their daughters were being passed around
    , @Alden
    When he's not on unz, I wonder what other websites anon frequents? I'm not a feminazis, I'm retired law enforcement who had the rape caseload for many years.

    I'm picking up some very perverted vibes from Anon's endless rants about Arianna Grande and her fans. Just 20 years experience with sex offenders guys.
    , @Che Guava
    Thanks, Priss?.

    Sincerely, but I must be sleeping now.

    Only read half, will read all tomorrow.
  82. @for-the-record

    Islam is a threat,
     
    Is Iran a threat to Europe? Is Indonesia (the largest "Islamic" country in terms of population)?

    The real Islamic threat, such as it is, is that propagated by Saudi Arabia, a country which is embraced with open arms by Western governments (and their arms industries). And which for some time now has had a de facto alliance (or "united front" if you like) with Israel.

    Is Iran a threat to Europe?

    Potentially it could be. I’m very much against any military intervention against Iran and would wish for an improvement in relations between Iran and the west, but still, we shouldn’t have any illusions about its regime. They still occasionally execute people for religious “crimes” there and while one may regard that as internal matters that shouldn’t concern us, it does preclude any warm feelings on my part for Iran’s system. I certainly don’t want to see them ever acquire nuclear weapons (even though I can see why they would want them, given their dangerous neighbourhood and the open agitation for regime change by influential networks in the US).
    You’re of course right though that Saudi-Arabia is a much worse offender in many ways, and is especially influential because of its ill-deserved wealth and its control over Islam’s holy sites. It’s not even the only source of Islamic “fundamentalism” though (e.g. there’s the Deobandi movement in South Asia which arose as a reaction to British colonialism in the 19th century…and has of course spread to the UK via subcontinental immigration). Turkey has also taken up an increasingly threatening anti-Western posture in line with its re-Islamization and has of course aided jihadi groups in Syria; it also seeks to spread its influence in Europe via Turkish communities and numerous organizations of an Islamic orientation. There’s also the OIC (with 57 member states) which has promoted numerous initiatives for the criminalization of Islamophobia. So the problem goes beyond Saudi-Arabia imo.

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  83. MBlanc46 says:
    @German_reader

    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.
     
    That's an idiotic statement. I agree that Ariana Grande is a degenerate slut, and the kind of toxic, decadent songs she's singing should perhaps even be banned. Certainly it's somewhat disturbing that even children are attending her concerts. But still, that can't justify Islamist savages maiming and killing those misguided children and teens. If you're on the side of the Islamists, you're simply a traitor.

    I wouldn’t call Anon a traitor, but he does seem to be letting his justifiable anger get the better of him. If we ever succeed in getting control of our countries again and expel the foreign invaders, dealing with vermin such as Ariana Grande will merely be part of the mopping up.

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  84. Art says:

    The Jew entertainment culture lures 8-year-old girls into concerts – then an enemy of the Jews, kills them. It is called lose – lose!

    What are 8-year-old girls doing at a concert where they yell and scream for hours watching some immature adult bump and grind her intimate body parts, singing sex empowerment songs.

    Isn’t there something very wrong about that scene?

    Meanwhile – a 145-year-old venerable institution of Western entertainment – was being closed down forever – Barnum & Bailey Circus. 8-year-olds at the circus are in danger of eating too much cotton candy.

    Peace – Art

    p.s. Jew entertainment have taken our youth from sugar highs, to sex highs.

    p.s. “Lose with the Jews.”

    p.s. Reject their culture lowering enticements.

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  85. @for-the-record

    Islam is a threat,
     
    Is Iran a threat to Europe? Is Indonesia (the largest "Islamic" country in terms of population)?

    The real Islamic threat, such as it is, is that propagated by Saudi Arabia, a country which is embraced with open arms by Western governments (and their arms industries). And which for some time now has had a de facto alliance (or "united front" if you like) with Israel.

    End of 1944, Harold L Ickes, and early 1945, Roosevelt, made the Saud dynasty completely dependent of the USA.
    As long as the country does not become democratic, no threat whatsoever to us.

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  86. @JoaoAlfaiate
    We're bombing them and they're bombing us. Why is that so difficult to understand?

    US Sec of State Madeleine Albright said starving or otherwise murdering 500,000 Iraqi children was "worth it".

    If Mr. Derbyshire can't recognize Manchester and other attacks as blow back, he's blind.

    The west terrorises Muslims since 1500 !
    For example

    C.R. Boxer, ´The Dutch Seaborne Empire 1600 – 1800´, London 1965, 1977

    Winston Churchill, ‘The Story of the Malakand Field Force’, 1898, 2004, New York

    Ian Hernon, ‘Britain’s Forgotten Wars, Colonial Campaigns of the 19th Century’, 2003, 2007, Chalford – Stroud

    Alan Friedman, ‘Spider’s Web, Bush, Saddam, Thatcher and the Decade of Deceit’, London, 1993

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    • Replies: @Alden
    And the Muslims terrorized the west since 700.
  87. @biz
    What about the ongoing Islamist terror campaigns in southern Thailand and the Philippines, directed largely at Buddhists and tribal villagers? How about the slow motion genocide of Melanesians in Irian Jaya at the hands of Indonesian Muslims? Al Shabab slaughtering black Kenyans in a mall? Are your 'zio-natos' responsible for those too?

    The only country in the world where Muslims rule themselves is Iran.
    In all other countries, even Indonesia, Muslims are suppressed.
    Iran just became free in 1979.

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    • Replies: @biz
    That makes no sense, and is completely batshit.

    Oh well. I've reluctantly accepted that the situation that people's opinions ought to at least have some concordance with external reality is quaint and outdated.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    What are you smoking? Or is it some Humpty Dumpty version meaning of "rule" or "Muslims" that makes you ignore Turkey; Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Pakistan, Yemen; Ma!aysia, just to name a few Muslim countries?
  88. @Numinous

    inhabitants of what formerly were British colonies and are now, since the Brits left, failed states sunk in poverty and disorder.
     
    Those states were in worse poverty and similar levels of disorder when the British were there. The British were responsible for a lot of it.

    Agree with this. Derb, for all his strengths, still has a schoolboy’s view of the British Empire. The Empire did quite a number on India, slaughtering millions. It would be ludicrous to argue that India was in better shape in the 1940s than today. Capitalism has taken root there to an extent that the Brits would never have allowed, and it has lifted many millions out of poverty. The Brits were never interested in spreading free market capitalism. Their goal was to take stuff for themselves and keep the population impoverished and divided.

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    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    "Their goal was to take stuff for themselves and keep the population impoverished and divided."

    Really? No kidding?

    You mean to tell me that the British, in their days of world empire, were selfish & ethnocentric?

    How odd.
  89. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    'Oil' is a diversionary strawman.

    Oil is everywhere, the US exports oil. We do not need ME oil at all. Europe does not need ME oil.
    In fact the oil countries need the West more than the West needs them. Oil can be bought from numerous sources worldwide at the same prices.

    Zionists promote the oil canard as a way to deflect from their obvious directing of US foreign policy that only benefits that "shitty little country".

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room
    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/

    You mean “red herring” not “straw man”

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  90. @Diversity Heretic
    John has in past columns expressed what I interpret as an anti-invasion policy: wall the Middle East off. The wall keeps them out of the west and keeps the west out of the Middle East. I concur. The West is following the worse strategy possible: invade Middle Eastern countries and kill Muslims, then invite Muslims with a grudge (sometimes justifiable) to settle here.

    One must be very cynical to understand the western strategy.
    Destabilising ME and N Africa means that these areas are no threat to the west any more, the migrants destabilise the European cultures, so that the countries disappear, Europe a USA clone, where money rules, as it does in the USA.
    Thereafter, who can withstand USAEUNATO ?
    This is the Trump threat, he has other ideas.

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  91. @annamaria
    Your hunch is more likely correct.
    From the Voltaire site: http://www.voltairenet.org/article196455.html
    "Salman Abedi was born in the UK of a family of Libyan immigrants.
    His father Ramadan Abedi is a former officer in [Gaddafi’s] Libyan Intelligence Services. He specialised in the surveillance of the Islamist movement, but two decades later has failed to notice that his son has joined Daesh (IS).
    In 1992, Ramadan Abedi was sent to Libya by Britain’s MI6 and was involved in a British-devised plot to assassinate Muammar Gaddafi. The operation having been readily exposed, he was exfiltrated by MI6 and transferred back to the UK where he obtained political asylum.
    In 1994, Ramadan Abedi returned to Libya under MI6’s direction. In late 1995 he was involved in the creation of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a local branch of Al-Qaeda. Nobody pays attention to the fact that Ramadan Abedi has linked LIFG members to the formation of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and, in 2011, he takes part in MI6’s ‘Arab Spring’ operations, and in LIFG’s role on the ground in support of NATO"

    Also, from The Solari Report: https://solari.com/00archive/web/solarireports/2017/sr20170427_Saker.pdf
    "...having ISIS in power in Damascus would actually be something that the Israelis want. For one thing, it gives them a wonderful pretext to establish a security zone. It could be the Golan Heights or more of the Golan Heights, or even to try to push up to the Litani River. They know that ISIS is a mortal enemy of Hezbollah, so it’s superb. They can hope for a civil war in Lebanon. That can only be achieved if they destabilize Lebanon as with Syria.
    Finally, Assad is the only hope for a unitary Syrian state, which they [Israelis] don’t want."

    Nobody seems to know that before 1500 Islam was tolerant, and welcomed science.
    Even the Ottoman empire was tolerant.
    The fanatical Islam is a western creation, the ayatollahs just got power in Iran after the west had overthrown democratic Iran twice, in 1911 and 1953.

    Ibn Battúta, ‘Travels in Asia and Africa 1325 – 1354′, 1929, 1983, London

    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992

    W. Morgan Shuster, ´The strangling of Persia, Story of the European diplomacy and oriental intrigue that resulted in the denationalisation of twelve million Mohammedans’, New York, 1912

    Roy Mottahedeh, ‘The Mantle of the Prophet, Religion and Politics in Iran’, Oxford, 1985, 2000

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Thank you for the references.
    , @Alden
    Did Richard Fletcher mention that Christian Spanish girls between 10 and 14 were shipped off to the brothels of the Muslim countries for 800 years and that was the main reason Isabella the Catholic banned both the Muslims and the Jewish slave traders who did the actual work of collecting the girls and selling them to Muslims in the Middle East?

    A lot of the glorification of Muslim Spain is just anti European Christian culture propaganda. Or in your case 500 year old Calvinist anti Catholicism.

    , @Anon


    "The world holds two classes of men – intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence."

    Abu'l-Ala-Al-Ma'arri (973-1057; Syrian poet)
     
    Somehow I doubt he'd be venerated today...
  92. Alden says:
    @Randal
    It's not really a Libyan neighbourhood though it is heavily colonised, but nor was the Burnage school he attended a place where anyone would be bullied for not being white - quite the contrary.

    Here are the latest school alumni photographs. Judge for yourself:

    Burnage school leavers

    These photos of course are published for PR purposes and as always make the place look like a happy, professional community of scholars and athletes, but certainly a few years back it was a rough-arsed underclass school.

    Thanks, for the info

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  93. Alden says:
    @Erik Sieven
    in the german media there was a lot of talk about how muslims now aim at children. Children were actually murdered, which is a special level of evil. But I could imagine that in the eyes of somebody with a more conservative upbringing, like the muslim terrorist probably had, this concert didn´t look at all like a children´s event, but rather like something between Christopher Street day and a Strip Club. That´s no justification at all, but maybe the terrorist did not especially aim at children.

    If he wanted to protest the porn singer wouldn’t he have detonated the bomb inside, near the stage?

    Or instead of lurking near the audience exit, detonated the bomb near the performers exit as MS Grande came out?

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  94. L.K says:
    @biz
    What about the ongoing Islamist terror campaigns in southern Thailand and the Philippines, directed largely at Buddhists and tribal villagers? How about the slow motion genocide of Melanesians in Irian Jaya at the hands of Indonesian Muslims? Al Shabab slaughtering black Kenyans in a mall? Are your 'zio-natos' responsible for those too?

    biz == zionist Troll and obfuscator.

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  95. @Randal
    Neither party really stands for the position it pretends to. Corbyn, whatever his personal opinions might be, is surrounded by paid up members of the leftist half of the bipartisan interventionist elite consensus, who will happily bomb America's enemies for the greater good. And May will ensure that the supply of immigration fodder for big business and the financier class is maintained, one way or the other. Both believe in suppression of political dissent by force ("hate speech" censorship and "antiracist" thuggery).

    Neither is worth campaigning for.

    So for whom are you going to vote?
     
    As it happens I live in one of the majority of electoral constituencies in England where voting genuinely is a waste of time, even if there were any meaningful difference between the parties - the outcome is determined once the parties have selected their candidates. Whomever or whatever they select (usually the proverbial donkey).

    Or is there a better alternative?
     
    UKIP, for all its inadequacies, is still the only choice for a patriot in England, if one were to choose by national party allegiance.

    If there were any reason to vote for one of the big parties in my particular constituency (if, say, it was a Lab/Con marginal seat) I would probably choose based upon the likely stance of the individual candidate on the overriding issue of the day - leaving the EU. That might mean "Conservative" or "Labour" depending on the candidate, but most likely it would be the "Conservative".

    Randal, thanks for your explanation, now for a more difficult question:

    What is your most optimistic (non-Utopian) scenario for the UK, and England in particular, for 50 years from now?

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  96. Rod1963 says:

    Our state department just doubled the number of Muslim refugees we’re importing according to Breitbart.

    That’s your answer Derbyshire.

    A giant FU to the American people by Trump and company.

    Nothing will change until there is a armed rebellion against the political and monied class in this country.

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  97. Rurik says: • Website

    Please, please, don’t let this happen here in America.

    There are mighty forces striving to make it happen; but we can still turn the tide, before it becomes blood-dimmed.

    why don’t you just come out and say it?

    England fought on the wrong side of the war, and the children of England are now suffering the consequences of their grandparent’s fatuous and suicidal stupidity. The same groveling stupidity that has the Brits gushing over the hag during her grotesque “Jubilees”. (the same rancid hag that presided over the destruction of England)

    Germany was trying to defend herself (and the West) from the depredations of the banking class that had taken over Russia. Hitler (despite his faults) did everything he could to have peace with England, even to the point of allowing the British army to leave at Dunkirk, when he could have prevented it. If England were an honorable nation of honorable men and women, they would have demanded to be Germany’s ally in destroying the Bolshevik fiend, rather than acting as the Fiend’$ idiotic stooge, and lining up to destroy their cousins in Germany, and with them, all hope for the future of England (and the West).

    If the British people were an honorable people, they would tell the truth- that Hitler was right to oppose genocidal communism with his last breath, and they were wrong to ally themselves with the Soviet drooling Fiend and destroy Germany out of petty envy.

    Now that the Bolsheviks have been forced out of Russia (by a towering statesman with more integrity in his nutsack than the entire length and breath of the “manhood” of Merrie Olde), England and the West are experiencing just what it’s like to be ruled ‘by the hair of their heads’ outright. (Not even in the shadows anymore).

    “This movement among the Jews is not new… this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”

    ~ Winston Churchill

    how does it feel to have “won” the war, eh?

    as England descends into the abyss of moral rot and spiritual sewage, as British school girls are groomed by ((pop culture)) and used as whores and sex slaves for an invading army of Muslims and Africans, all while the British people cower with soiled knickers at the fear of being called ‘a racist‘. OOhh nooo! (oops, there goes the knickers again)

    everybody here knows there is only one reason why England and the West have destroyed Libya and are destroying Syria = because of Jews who demanded it

    just as everybody knows there is only one reason why England and the West are being destroyed by massive non-white immigration, because of Jew$ (Rothschild, Soros, et al) who demand it

    duh

    but there isn’t one in ten thousand that will mention this simple and obvious truth, which if not addressed, will result in the absolute defilement of your nations and children utterly.

    but they’re too cowardly to speak of ((the elephant)) in the living room, “for fear of the Jews”

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    • Agree: KenH
    • Replies: @Alden
    The hag and all her ancestors and relatives going back to 1689 are actors put on the throne by various factions. Their job is to learn their lines, follow the script, hit their marks, put on their costumes and do exactly what they are told.

    ER2 did observe a moment of silence. She also endured the drive to Manchester and visited the hospital. At the bedside of one very critically injured child her words of comfort to the girl's father were " you've had quite a jolt haven't you"? I wonder who wrote that line for her? She also said the bombing was "very alarming". And she's the head of the Church of England and "defender of the faith"

    So far, no royals have attended any memorial events.
    , @Corvinus
    "Germany was trying to defend herself (and the West) from the depredations of the banking class that had taken over Russia."

    Germany sought revenge against Great Britain and France due to the harsh conditions of the Versailles Treaty and desired to expand their territorial boundaries. Along the way they blamed non-Germans as being agitators and traitors and thus subject to elimination.

    "Hitler (despite his faults) did everything he could to have peace with England..."

    No. He broke a promise by invading Czechoslovakia. He broke a promise by invading Russia. You are covering for him.

    "even to the point of allowing the British army to leave at Dunkirk, when he could have prevented it."

    That decision was made by two field marshals. They believed consolidating their troops would avoid an Allied breakout.

    "If England were an honorable nation of honorable men and women, they would have demanded to be Germany’s ally in destroying the Bolshevik fiend..."

    By that time, Germany was on its way to destroy France, with their target set next on Great Britain. You are playing revisionist historian here.

    "If the British people were an honorable people, they would tell the truth- that Hitler was right to oppose genocidal communism with his last breath, and they were wrong to ally themselves with the Soviet drooling Fiend and destroy Germany out of petty envy."

    Of course the British are honorable, they worked to remove a mad man from power. Had Germany not invaded Russia, perhaps England would have also turned its attention to ousting Soviet leadership from power.

    "white “men” so filled with racial self-loathing that they symbolically allow themselves to be pissed on to mollify their excruciating self-hatred."

    Basically, every single white man who fails to do your racial bidding, who neglects to look out first and foremost for the white man, is a race traitor. How other than reasonable of a position on your part. You are no different than a Fascist who demands unquestioned loyalty to the State. Exactly why tens of millions of white men will not do your bidding. They will exercise their freedom rather than be enslaved by your racial narrative chain.
    , @Druid
    True
  98. Rurik says: • Website
    @LauraMR
    Sure, lack of assimilation is the culprit but as a "truther" might say, this could well be an operation carried out by the deep state. Indeed, someone put this kid up to this, supplied explosives and logistics, so perhaps it was an Israeli plot, for certain some Anglo-Zionist one percenter must be behind all of this. Naturally, as it is often published here, white Europeans are superior to all other races so the kid was by virtue of ancestry a lesser, defective human being to begin with...

    …someone put this kid up to this

    …white Europeans are superior to all other races so the kid was by virtue of ancestry a lesser, defective human being to begin with…

    “kid” eh?

    just a poor, misunderstood victim of the racism of white Europeans, eh?

    I have no idea what actually happened in Manchester, and you’re right, it could be another Zio-false flag, but if it’s true this hatred-crazed monster murdered children in this way, then you’re absolutely correct in assuming that there are people like me who would consider such a person as “defective”, regardless of his race

    but the problem isn’t “lack of assimilation”, but the evil madness and suicidal insanity of ‘invade the world / invite the world’. And the cowards and traitors and vile scum who refuse to mention this, because for what ever reason, the invade/invite suits their own personal agendas

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    Kid, for sure, at 22... but I suppose if you are about his age you are simply not capable of understanding this.

    As for "misunderstood victim", not at all, in my opinion. However, please note the "blessing" he has been given by the first commenter, one that probably considers himself "white", whatever that might mean to him, you, or those ranting about "race".
  99. Wally says:
    @JoaoAlfaiate
    We're bombing them and they're bombing us. Why is that so difficult to understand?

    US Sec of State Madeleine Albright said starving or otherwise murdering 500,000 Iraqi children was "worth it".

    If Mr. Derbyshire can't recognize Manchester and other attacks as blow back, he's blind.

    But millions of euro whites are not flooding into their cesspools called countries.

    If they had a problem with the US military the little cowards would stay and fight them.

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    Says big brace man on comfy couch
    , @JoaoAlfaiate
    Last time I looked although Uncle Sam, NATO, etc., etc. have been in Afghanistan since 2002 the Taliban have not been defeated, quite the contrary.

    We invaded that "cesspool" called Iraq and brought a pro Iran gov't to power and an insurgency called ISIS. Lots of Iraqis and Syrians on the run. We removed Gaddafi and got lots of refugees plus a failed state. One could argue if you destroy a state you have a responsibility to clean up the mess you have made, including taking in some of the refugees you created. "If you break it, you own it."

    It seems to me US military intervention has been a failure; we have lost every war. I keep wondering why Trump put so many failed US military "leaders" on the payroll in jobs like National Security Advisor, etc.
  100. Alden says:
    @unit472
    No doubt the murderer Abedi chose his target well. Western pop culture threatens Islam a helluva of a lot more than democracy or capitalism. It is assimilative and transcends race and national borders. Its not possible to put this genie back in the bottle. That battle was lost with Elvis and the Beatles. Today we have terrorists who, before they donned their bomb vests, were aspiring rappers. I was flabbergasted watching the TV show 'Snapped". It featured an Afghan girl in Southern California who became a meth freak, topless dancer and then murdered her mother when she objected to her daughter's lifestyle.

    If I ran the CIA I would put my efforts into creating an Islamic Ariana Grande or forming some 'boy group' Saudi tweens would go crazy over. Let the devout Muslim mom and dad experience the 'generation gap'.

    There’s a theory that once Stalin died and things loosened up western music, jeans and Elvis then Beatles hairdos infiltrated into the Soviet Union.

    Supposedly western teen culture and music was the soviets fell. Personally I think it was more complicated.

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  101. Wally says:
    @biz
    What about the ongoing Islamist terror campaigns in southern Thailand and the Philippines, directed largely at Buddhists and tribal villagers? How about the slow motion genocide of Melanesians in Irian Jaya at the hands of Indonesian Muslims? Al Shabab slaughtering black Kenyans in a mall? Are your 'zio-natos' responsible for those too?

    Yes, they arm them.

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  102. syonredux says:
    @RadicalCenter
    Rickenbacker murdered Germans for no good reason, in a conflict that clearly was none of america's business and clearly posed no threat to the USA at all. Sad that he felt that he had to do that to be a real American.

    But we might agree that islam makes its adherents inherently incapable of being loyal to a host nation/culture or trustworthy to nonMuslim people in a pinch.

    Rickenbacker murdered Germans for no good reason,

    He fought Germans for the best of all possible reasons: Patriotism. His nation was at war with Germany, and he did his part. And, of course, his service was most exemplary:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker#Army_service

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker#Verified_aerial_victories

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    He fought Germans for the best of all possible reasons: Patriotism. His nation was at war with Germany, and he did his part.

    The thought is by no means original with me (my best thoughts rarely are!), but I see WWI as the start of the collective suicide of the West. And the intervention of the US, to which Rickenbacker "patriotically responded", was the decisive element in ensuring that the "Great War" would be rechristened "WWI".
  103. Alden says:
    @Anon
    I don't see Islam as a cure. I don't care for it.

    But if Muslims want to bomb and attack globalism, that's fine by me.

    They are doing the job that white patriots are too afraid to do.

    Algeria and Vietnam both freed themselves from foreign invasion through terrorism and war.

    All true patriots must go Cong, as in Viet Cong.

    Muslims are invaders too, and their entry into the West has been made possible by globalism. But they also sense that globalism is a means to turn their daughters into sex sluts of black Africans. At the very least, they resist that. In contrast, white fathers worship the very Negroes who conquer and colonize their daughters'wombs.

    Not any White man I’ve ever met. What kind of White men do you know?

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    Anon has an interracial cuck fetish. He constantly posts about interracial sex. It seems to be the only topic that flits around in his mind.
    , @Rurik


    "In contrast, white fathers worship the very Negroes who conquer and colonize their daughters’ wombs"
     
    Not any White man I’ve ever met. What kind of White men do you know?
     
    they're out there, trust me

    here's one who painted his body as a tribute (including a black snake) in homage to a black athlete who admitted to brutally raping and sodomizing a young white woman.
    (for confessing to the crime, he wasn't punished in any way whatsoever. Indeed, he became a pop-culture hero and you'd find posters of him on the windows of shoe stores and athletic gear)

    http://a.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/NBA/images/2016/04/12/041216-NBA-Kobe-Bryant-Fan-IA.jpg

    this is so far below degraded, that I don't even know where to categorize it

    what wouldn't a guy like this do to abase himself to his (black) hero?
  104. Rurik says: • Website
    @Anon
    Pop Culture has been weaponized.

    madonna as interracist whore and 'pussy march' leader and her ilk have done more harm than a handful of terrorists.

    Terrorists kill a few hundred per year.

    Weaponized celebrities are globo agents who colonize the minds of 100s of millions of whites into accepting slut culture, interracism, 'diversity', jungle fever, ACOWW, pederasty, 'gay marriage', 'inclusion', cuckery, etc.

    Indeed, the reason why Manchester let in all those foreigners and continues to self-hug itself with ugly anti-racist pseudo-virtue is because its people have been mentally colonized by PC and pop culture.

    Colonization of minds is more dangerous than killing a few.
    Romans defeated the Jews and oppressed the Christians, but Christians colonized Roman minds and Christians won. Romans fed few 100s of Christians to lions, but Christians colonized the minds of millions of Romans. Today's mass media spread not only ideas but idols on a global scale to billions of people.

    Pop Culture and PC are weaponized globalist jihad. Pop Culture is no longer just for fun or a diversion. It is the MAIN culture for most white kids. Kids worship celebrities as angels of globalism.
    Those young white girls at the concert were being mentally colonized and sensually manipulated into open borders for immigrant invaders and open vaginas for black Africans.

    The concert was a propaganda act of war.

    Culture matters. This is why the Progs and Glob tear down Confederate statues in the South. It is why they make movies like GET OUT, which are far more dangerous than terror bombings. Terror kills a few 100. Pop Culture or Prop Culture(as it is propaganda) colonize hundreds of millions of white hearts/minds and EFFECTIVELY MURDER the patriot soul-spirit within them.
    Soul-Murder of whites makes whites welcome invasion and their own racial-territorial demise.

    If you want to know why Manchester welcomed so much invasion and continue to do so after the bombing, it is because white minds have been colonized by PC and Pop Culture.
    Indeed, these mentally-colonized whites hate terror bombings not because such attacks are consequences of invasion but because they may strengthen the nationalists who oppose immigrant-invasion.
    Why do whites welcome immigrant-invasion? Because they've been mentally colonized by PC and Pop Culture that says being a white woman means to whore out to the world.

    Suppose Nazis hadn't dropped bombs in UK in WWII but only propaganda material from the air and succeeded in winning over the hearts and minds of millions of Brits. That would have been more damaging.

    It's like US took over so many nations with the 'soft power' of media, academia, and entertainment. Take over minds, you take over souls. The mind-colonized become your slaves.

    Progs know the true meaning of culture as political instrument. This is why they denounce D.W. Griffith's THE BIRTH OF A NATION. They see it as more than just a movie. They see it as proud statement of white racial consciousness. This is why they wage culture war. Culture is a weapon. And as mass media has access to every home via the TV, the TV is the open gate thru which the globalisys get to attack and colonize your minds.
    Why did Jews react so harshly to PASSION OF THE CHRIST? They saw it as Culture War in favor of Christian Pride and Jewish Guilt. Why won't Hollywood make a movie about Nakba or Knoxville Massacre? Because they can be propaganda against Jewish power.

    How did the West come to accept 'gay marriage'? Colonization of white minds via Pop Culture and PC. PC and Pop Culture are globo-jihad.
    They can also be violent. Look at BLM. Look at 'spreading democracy'. Look at destruction of Libya and coup in Ukraine. Look at destruction of Christian businesses for not baking 'gay wedding cake'. Globalism uses both soft jihad and hard jihad. Indeed, even the unleashing of ISIS and Alqaeda is the result of globalism's war on enemies of Israel. Zionist-globalists undermined Arab regimes and let ISIS run riot to mess things up. Thus, Islmic Jihadis are both agents of globalism and its enemy(as Muslims hate western degeneracy).
    Anyway, the real shame is that whites acquiesced to defeat at hands of globalists without resitance and violence.
    I think part of the reason why white rightists rag on Muslim terrorists is this: Muslims have guts enough to resist globalism(even as they've been enabled by it). In contrast, even white patriots make a lot of noise but are afraid to take real action.

    There was a time when whites would have used violence against those who'd dare to stick homo flags in churches, push 'gay marriage' and destroy Christian bakers, and tear down Confederate statues.

    But whites, even right wing ones, don't fight back but only complain NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY ARE HUMILIATED, ABUSED, AND ATTACKED. Only the Alt Right did some pushing back at Berkeley.

    So, when they see the courage of Muslim terrorists, they call them 'losers' and 'cowards'.
    Really? The real cowards are whites who do nothing while General Lee statue is torn down. Real cowards are whites who do nothing while Trump reneges on all his promises. Real cowards are white men who raise their girls to whore out to Negroes. Real cowards are white men who let freaks turn big cities into homo celebration centers and invoke homomania as 'western value' that must be defended from Muslims. Real cowards are whites who praise Jewish globalists who are behind homomania, the attack on Confederate culture, open borders, and Afro-colonization of white wombs.

    Compared to these loser white cowards, at least Muslim terrorists take action against globalist filth.

    A Palestinian child with a rock in west Bank has more guts than all white men in the West who cuck out to Jewish globalists, homo freaks, and black thugs.

    White fathers who let their girls attend that concert are far worse scum than the terrorist who blew it up.

    A Palestinian child with a rock in west Bank has more guts than all white men in the West who cuck out to Jewish globalists, homo freaks, and black thugs.

    White fathers who let their girls attend that concert are far worse scum

    I often call them human urinals

    white “men” so filled with racial self-loathing that they symbolically allow themselves to be pissed on to mollify their excruciating self-hatred

    I condemn the terrorist with all my breath, but I have to admit, he isn’t perhaps as morally execrable as the white men who sat by in Rotherham as their daughters were being passed around

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    I've read a lot about Rotherham. Fathers who made police reports were ignored and told to stop wasting police time. Fathers who rescued their daughters from rape houses were arrested and charged with disturbing the peace, assault, affray, inciting to riot etc.

    One 13 yr old screamed long and loudly enough that police were called. When the police arrived they arrested the girl for disturbing the peace and told the 7 rapists to go home.
    The girls were told that if they resisted reported the rapes to the police they and their families would be burnt to death. One girl had her tongue nailed to a table after she reported a rape.

    American men didn't do a very good job of protecting their children from the rampant bullying and a use White children endure in integrated schools did they?

    It was t their fault, it's pretty hard to fight tens of millions channeled from ADL AJC to ACLU NAACP lawsuits to prevent any normal discipline of the feral fiends who abuse out White children.

    But the American record isn't that great. And we submitted to black on White crime and school integration for the same reason the English have submitted to Muslim abuse: massive anti White government pressure.

    Thinking of joining a resistance group? It will consist of ATF informers, FBI informers, state police informers, ADL informers, SPLC informers and you.
    , @mcohen
    only time I will agree with you on this forum.rotherham defies explanation.and then you have oasis singing ....don't look back in anger
  105. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    Please, please, don’t let this happen here in America.

    There are mighty forces striving to make it happen; but we can still turn the tide, before it becomes blood-dimmed.
     

    why don't you just come out and say it?

    England fought on the wrong side of the war, and the children of England are now suffering the consequences of their grandparent's fatuous and suicidal stupidity. The same groveling stupidity that has the Brits gushing over the hag during her grotesque "Jubilees". (the same rancid hag that presided over the destruction of England)

    Germany was trying to defend herself (and the West) from the depredations of the banking class that had taken over Russia. Hitler (despite his faults) did everything he could to have peace with England, even to the point of allowing the British army to leave at Dunkirk, when he could have prevented it. If England were an honorable nation of honorable men and women, they would have demanded to be Germany's ally in destroying the Bolshevik fiend, rather than acting as the Fiend'$ idiotic stooge, and lining up to destroy their cousins in Germany, and with them, all hope for the future of England (and the West).

    If the British people were an honorable people, they would tell the truth- that Hitler was right to oppose genocidal communism with his last breath, and they were wrong to ally themselves with the Soviet drooling Fiend and destroy Germany out of petty envy.

    Now that the Bolsheviks have been forced out of Russia (by a towering statesman with more integrity in his nutsack than the entire length and breath of the "manhood" of Merrie Olde), England and the West are experiencing just what it's like to be ruled 'by the hair of their heads' outright. (Not even in the shadows anymore).

    "This movement among the Jews is not new... this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."

    ~ Winston Churchill

    how does it feel to have "won" the war, eh?

    as England descends into the abyss of moral rot and spiritual sewage, as British school girls are groomed by ((pop culture)) and used as whores and sex slaves for an invading army of Muslims and Africans, all while the British people cower with soiled knickers at the fear of being called 'a racist'. OOhh nooo! (oops, there goes the knickers again)

    everybody here knows there is only one reason why England and the West have destroyed Libya and are destroying Syria = because of Jews who demanded it

    just as everybody knows there is only one reason why England and the West are being destroyed by massive non-white immigration, because of Jew$ (Rothschild, Soros, et al) who demand it

    duh

    but there isn't one in ten thousand that will mention this simple and obvious truth, which if not addressed, will result in the absolute defilement of your nations and children utterly.

    but they're too cowardly to speak of ((the elephant)) in the living room, "for fear of the Jews"

    The hag and all her ancestors and relatives going back to 1689 are actors put on the throne by various factions. Their job is to learn their lines, follow the script, hit their marks, put on their costumes and do exactly what they are told.

    ER2 did observe a moment of silence. She also endured the drive to Manchester and visited the hospital. At the bedside of one very critically injured child her words of comfort to the girl’s father were ” you’ve had quite a jolt haven’t you”? I wonder who wrote that line for her? She also said the bombing was “very alarming”. And she’s the head of the Church of England and “defender of the faith”

    So far, no royals have attended any memorial events.

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    She also endured the drive to Manchester and visited the hospital.
     
    yes, I think she also said something positive about Brexit, and I have to admit I was shocked and pleasantly surprised.

    But as the symbolic head of England, what has transpired under her tenure as "monarch", such as it is, and the way she willingly went along with all the 'knighting' of pedophiles and silence in the face of war crimes and serial villainy and off the charts treason, to include forcing the Brits to pay for an invasion of their ancient island- everything she does now is just too little, too late for me. Alas.

    Actually I hope Harry knocks up Kate and the hag's bloodline ends (Harry is not blood related to the hag) as Kate whispers in the hag's ear, Braveheart-like, (as the French queen whispered into Longshank's dying ear) that the baby in her womb is not of her blood. Then the hag finally croaks.

  106. biz says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The only country in the world where Muslims rule themselves is Iran.
    In all other countries, even Indonesia, Muslims are suppressed.
    Iran just became free in 1979.

    That makes no sense, and is completely batshit.

    Oh well. I’ve reluctantly accepted that the situation that people’s opinions ought to at least have some concordance with external reality is quaint and outdated.

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  107. @syonredux

    Rickenbacker murdered Germans for no good reason,
     
    He fought Germans for the best of all possible reasons: Patriotism. His nation was at war with Germany, and he did his part. And, of course, his service was most exemplary:



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker#Army_service



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker#Verified_aerial_victories

    He fought Germans for the best of all possible reasons: Patriotism. His nation was at war with Germany, and he did his part.

    The thought is by no means original with me (my best thoughts rarely are!), but I see WWI as the start of the collective suicide of the West. And the intervention of the US, to which Rickenbacker “patriotically responded”, was the decisive element in ensuring that the “Great War” would be rechristened “WWI”.

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    , but I see WWI as the start of the collective suicide of the West.
     
    Things would have probably turned out a lot better if war had not broken out in 1914....At the very least, the Bolshevik Revolution wouldn't have happened....
  108. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    A Palestinian child with a rock in west Bank has more guts than all white men in the West who cuck out to Jewish globalists, homo freaks, and black thugs.

    White fathers who let their girls attend that concert are far worse scum
     
    I often call them human urinals

    white "men" so filled with racial self-loathing that they symbolically allow themselves to be pissed on to mollify their excruciating self-hatred

    I condemn the terrorist with all my breath, but I have to admit, he isn't perhaps as morally execrable as the white men who sat by in Rotherham as their daughters were being passed around

    I’ve read a lot about Rotherham. Fathers who made police reports were ignored and told to stop wasting police time. Fathers who rescued their daughters from rape houses were arrested and charged with disturbing the peace, assault, affray, inciting to riot etc.

    One 13 yr old screamed long and loudly enough that police were called. When the police arrived they arrested the girl for disturbing the peace and told the 7 rapists to go home.
    The girls were told that if they resisted reported the rapes to the police they and their families would be burnt to death. One girl had her tongue nailed to a table after she reported a rape.

    American men didn’t do a very good job of protecting their children from the rampant bullying and a use White children endure in integrated schools did they?

    It was t their fault, it’s pretty hard to fight tens of millions channeled from ADL AJC to ACLU NAACP lawsuits to prevent any normal discipline of the feral fiends who abuse out White children.

    But the American record isn’t that great. And we submitted to black on White crime and school integration for the same reason the English have submitted to Muslim abuse: massive anti White government pressure.

    Thinking of joining a resistance group? It will consist of ATF informers, FBI informers, state police informers, ADL informers, SPLC informers and you.

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    I agree with everything you wrote

    I can't give a blanket condemnation of the British men when the Americans are simply not that much better, except that nothing as egregious as Rotherham has actually happened yet here, even tho it would be happening everywhere if it were up to ((their)) druthers.

    So I suspect that we are going to get exactly what we're willing to put up with. They will push us until the breaking point, and they have already done so, in places like Ruby Ridge, where the locals were ready to kill the fecal marshals on sight. Like at Waco. They'll burn us alive if we try to resist, but resist we had better or we're all going to get Rotherhams in every town, city and village ((their)) influence reaches. From Norway to Australia, our race are being savaged and little girls treated worse than dogs.
  109. @RadicalCenter
    Rickenbacker murdered Germans for no good reason, in a conflict that clearly was none of america's business and clearly posed no threat to the USA at all. Sad that he felt that he had to do that to be a real American.

    But we might agree that islam makes its adherents inherently incapable of being loyal to a host nation/culture or trustworthy to nonMuslim people in a pinch.

    Yes, the US should have stayed out of WWI and WWII. But to call Rickenbacker a murderer is idiotic. He engaged in combat with other pilots.

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  110. @Alden
    Not any White man I've ever met. What kind of White men do you know?

    Anon has an interracial cuck fetish. He constantly posts about interracial sex. It seems to be the only topic that flits around in his mind.

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    I'm sure inter racial sex also flits around on his computer screen.
  111. Corvinus says:
    @Anon
    Exactly what I thought. Justify the murder of people because you oppose the ways they express themselves culturally.

    LOL. The murder was committed by someone made possible by globalism. Globalism destoyed the Middle East and let in angry refugees and Muslims. Globalism calls for sexual imperialism and conquest of white wombs by Africans. Globalism calls for turning white females into sluts and sex meat for non-white men from earliest age possible. This isn't mere 'cultural expression'. It is culture war as tool of globalists to turn white females into race traitors and horizontal collaborators of the enemy.

    Pop culture is no longer just entertainment. It is a propaganda tool used by globalists to destroy nationalism and racial preservation. It is a terrorism on the soul and mind.

    Globalism murdered tons of Muslims in the Middle East. It then brings those Muslims to the West and turns them onto black thug culture and the PC of anti-whiteness. PC defends both Sharia and whore culture. it makes NO sense and is animated by destructive agenda against the West.

    Globalists brought this mess onto themselves. What is pathetic is that white minds have been sop colonized by the glob virus that they send their kids to concerts to be turned into sluts whose wombs are to be offered to Africans. Cuck Britain.

    And YOU are a race traitor.

    Listen, Priss Factor/Anonym/War For Blair Mountain and other sock puppets galore…

    “The murder was committed by someone made possible by globalism.”

    Globalism is a phenomenon that began when man moved from place to place several thousand years ago.

    “Globalism calls for sexual imperialism and conquest of white wombs by Africans.”

    It promotes no such thing.

    “It is culture war as tool of globalists to turn white females into race traitors and horizontal collaborators of the enemy.”

    You’re forgetting one key part here–free will. Men and women have the liberty to make their own decisions. You seek to take away one’s freedom. Why are you a Fascist?

    “Pop culture is no longer just entertainment. It is a propaganda tool used by globalists to destroy nationalism and racial preservation. It is a terrorism on the soul and mind.”

    Thank you for your opinion on this matter.

    “Globalism murdered tons of Muslims in the Middle East. It then brings those Muslims to the West and turns them onto black thug culture and the PC of anti-whiteness. PC defends both Sharia and whore culture. it makes NO sense and is animated by destructive agenda against the West.”

    Thank for your opinion on this matter.

    “Globalists brought this mess onto themselves. What is pathetic is that white minds have been sop colonized by the glob virus that they send their kids to concerts to be turned into sluts whose wombs are to be offered to Africans. Cuck Britain.”

    Just for once could you actually say you are going to do something of substance about this situation rather than lament about it.

    “And YOU are a race traitor.”

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

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  112. nsa says:

    A symbolic pinprick pipe bomb attack on a slut fest and the Brits are cringing and whining like school girls. At least the muzzies take their losses (100 to 300/day, mostly civilians) like men without all the moralizing and faggy hysteria. It’s embarrassing……

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  113. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @attilathehen
    The author can't become an Ivanhoe. His Chinese wife and offspring have compromised him. His wife and daughter were Obummer voters. They have "absimiliated" away from the West. He can't have his children fight for the West because he is worried they might get hurt. But they wouldn't do it anyway because they don't identify with the West.

    He wrote that his son joined the US army. My hunch is he will meet an Asian woman and marry her and hopefully leave the USA.

    Derbyshire spouts about the West all the time but he and his offspring can do or will do nothing.

    These articles he writes are variations on Augustine's confessions.

    But he is guilty of helping to destroy the West.

    NE Asians, or even SE Asians (non-Muslim ones), aren’t a problem. At all. What white person in his right mind could have a problem with epicanthic Asians? Especially in relation to other immigrant groups! So Derb’s offspring and grandchildren will look more like Dean Caine or Johnny Depp than Patton Oswalt, Ricky Gervais or some other pasty-faced endomorph. I can live with that.

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    Are you Jewish? Involved with Asians? Johnny Depp is not Asian - he is supposedly part Cherokee, nothing to do with Asians. Ricky Gervais and Patton Oswalt are not Asian. Dean Cain is the rare exception because their weren't that many Asians when he was born.

    Chinese, Japanese are physically unattractive people who hate whites.

    Also, with today's international travel, they marry other Asians. I don't where you live, but where I live Asians marry half-Asians, Jews, blacks - racial evolutionary degeneracy.

    Derbyshire's son will never be an Ivanhoe. This is because of Derbyshire's degeneracy.
  114. Rurik says: • Website
    @Alden
    Not any White man I've ever met. What kind of White men do you know?

    “In contrast, white fathers worship the very Negroes who conquer and colonize their daughters’ wombs”

    Not any White man I’ve ever met. What kind of White men do you know?

    they’re out there, trust me

    here’s one who painted his body as a tribute (including a black snake) in homage to a black athlete who admitted to brutally raping and sodomizing a young white woman.
    (for confessing to the crime, he wasn’t punished in any way whatsoever. Indeed, he became a pop-culture hero and you’d find posters of him on the windows of shoe stores and athletic gear)

    this is so far below degraded, that I don’t even know where to categorize it

    what wouldn’t a guy like this do to abase himself to his (black) hero?

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    I know only normal White men. Some I know watch a few sports events a year on TV or even go to a game once a year. I don't believe any White or other race man I know has ever mentioned Kobe Bryant to me. And I live in Los Angeles where he works.

    I know normal White men who don't worship black athletes and don't "deliver their daughters wombs" to black men.

    Why tell me about all your friends who worship black athletes and wish they had daughters to deliver to black men? The endless rants about sex of you and others is inappropriate, pornographic, distasteful, disgusting, degenerate and depraved. I get it. Ms grande is a poem preformer and her fans and their mothers are sluts. Are we to read the endless rants for years?

    This is supposed to be a site where respectable people discuss politics and current events, not a place where perverted wankers post their porn fantasies.

    And why did you provide that link? Do you expect me to look at a picture of black rapist Kobe Bryant and his ridiculous admirer? No way in hell. I sent too many black rapists to Quentin, Folsum and Pelican Bay to want to look at another one.

    Once more my question. Why do you spend so much time on the internet looking at black rapists you pervert?

    I spent 20 years of my life sending black rapists to prison.

    What have you, anon and all the pervert wankers ever done but roam the Internet looking for black/ White porn?
  115. m___ says:
    @Corvinus
    "Whatever, the masses, the simpletons, the bulk of humanity needs steering, none of ours truly “priviledged”, the “nobility” of human worlds, has the physical courage, the individual potential (IQ, and consequently logical and ethical capacity) to cope with complexity. "

    So, do YOU have this ability to "cope" compared to us "simpletons"? So, why don't you offer your advice on this matter as a public service announcement...

    One considers oneself inapt as to providing all of the practical solutions, not individuals nor groups can. None of our elites, whether you count me in or not, as individuals or as in structured groups can. Hence my comment as a whole.

    That said, the extracted need to repeat the same statement of mine, is obvious a flaw on your behalf. Comprehension or non-comprehension, then short bursts of emotional rightness as yours, illustrate potential, the lack of it. I am sure you have spent the last years thinking about similar questions, as to what is relevant, is not, is urgent, what urgency means to relevancy, where and how to asses reality, what quality of life means.

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    I'll ask again. So, do YOU have this ability to "cope" compared to us "simpletons"? So, why don't you offer your advice on this matter as a public service announcement...

    Please be specific.
  116. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    Please, please, don’t let this happen here in America.

    There are mighty forces striving to make it happen; but we can still turn the tide, before it becomes blood-dimmed.
     

    why don't you just come out and say it?

    England fought on the wrong side of the war, and the children of England are now suffering the consequences of their grandparent's fatuous and suicidal stupidity. The same groveling stupidity that has the Brits gushing over the hag during her grotesque "Jubilees". (the same rancid hag that presided over the destruction of England)

    Germany was trying to defend herself (and the West) from the depredations of the banking class that had taken over Russia. Hitler (despite his faults) did everything he could to have peace with England, even to the point of allowing the British army to leave at Dunkirk, when he could have prevented it. If England were an honorable nation of honorable men and women, they would have demanded to be Germany's ally in destroying the Bolshevik fiend, rather than acting as the Fiend'$ idiotic stooge, and lining up to destroy their cousins in Germany, and with them, all hope for the future of England (and the West).

    If the British people were an honorable people, they would tell the truth- that Hitler was right to oppose genocidal communism with his last breath, and they were wrong to ally themselves with the Soviet drooling Fiend and destroy Germany out of petty envy.

    Now that the Bolsheviks have been forced out of Russia (by a towering statesman with more integrity in his nutsack than the entire length and breath of the "manhood" of Merrie Olde), England and the West are experiencing just what it's like to be ruled 'by the hair of their heads' outright. (Not even in the shadows anymore).

    "This movement among the Jews is not new... this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."

    ~ Winston Churchill

    how does it feel to have "won" the war, eh?

    as England descends into the abyss of moral rot and spiritual sewage, as British school girls are groomed by ((pop culture)) and used as whores and sex slaves for an invading army of Muslims and Africans, all while the British people cower with soiled knickers at the fear of being called 'a racist'. OOhh nooo! (oops, there goes the knickers again)

    everybody here knows there is only one reason why England and the West have destroyed Libya and are destroying Syria = because of Jews who demanded it

    just as everybody knows there is only one reason why England and the West are being destroyed by massive non-white immigration, because of Jew$ (Rothschild, Soros, et al) who demand it

    duh

    but there isn't one in ten thousand that will mention this simple and obvious truth, which if not addressed, will result in the absolute defilement of your nations and children utterly.

    but they're too cowardly to speak of ((the elephant)) in the living room, "for fear of the Jews"

    “Germany was trying to defend herself (and the West) from the depredations of the banking class that had taken over Russia.”

    Germany sought revenge against Great Britain and France due to the harsh conditions of the Versailles Treaty and desired to expand their territorial boundaries. Along the way they blamed non-Germans as being agitators and traitors and thus subject to elimination.

    “Hitler (despite his faults) did everything he could to have peace with England…”

    No. He broke a promise by invading Czechoslovakia. He broke a promise by invading Russia. You are covering for him.

    “even to the point of allowing the British army to leave at Dunkirk, when he could have prevented it.”

    That decision was made by two field marshals. They believed consolidating their troops would avoid an Allied breakout.

    “If England were an honorable nation of honorable men and women, they would have demanded to be Germany’s ally in destroying the Bolshevik fiend…”

    By that time, Germany was on its way to destroy France, with their target set next on Great Britain. You are playing revisionist historian here.

    “If the British people were an honorable people, they would tell the truth- that Hitler was right to oppose genocidal communism with his last breath, and they were wrong to ally themselves with the Soviet drooling Fiend and destroy Germany out of petty envy.”

    Of course the British are honorable, they worked to remove a mad man from power. Had Germany not invaded Russia, perhaps England would have also turned its attention to ousting Soviet leadership from power.

    “white “men” so filled with racial self-loathing that they symbolically allow themselves to be pissed on to mollify their excruciating self-hatred.”

    Basically, every single white man who fails to do your racial bidding, who neglects to look out first and foremost for the white man, is a race traitor. How other than reasonable of a position on your part. You are no different than a Fascist who demands unquestioned loyalty to the State. Exactly why tens of millions of white men will not do your bidding. They will exercise their freedom rather than be enslaved by your racial narrative chain.

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    Germany was on its way to destroy France, with their target set next on Great Britain. You are playing revisionist historian here.
     
    destroy France?

    Is that what they did? Or was life under Vichy rule a thousand times better for the French than life in the multicultural cesspool of hatred and strife and terrorist attacks of your agenda, including violence and shit on the streets of Paris?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0dFiV9raCQ

    recently about a third of the people of France voted for a woman who's campaign was effectively an enforcement of Hitler's notions of French racial self-determination vs. the multicultural, genocidal idiocy and failed policies you spew.
  117. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    But millions of euro whites are not flooding into their cesspools called countries.

    If they had a problem with the US military the little cowards would stay and fight them.

    Says big brace man on comfy couch

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  118. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    Yes they are brain dead degenerates slutting around for money. But that does not mean they deserve to be blown up and dismembered by Muslim fanatics with a fetish for explosives .

    My God man get a grip.

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    Imagine it's WWII. UK is at war with Nazi Germany but Brits are having a pro-Nazi rally. Suppose an anarcho-fascist blows up the rally. Would you care?

    These people were killed by what they celebrate. Why would we care?

    They are for open borders. They are for globalism, a force that destroyed stability in the Middle East and then welcomed 'refugees'. They are for Invade/Invite.

    Okay, they are dumb and don't know what is going on. But one thing for sure, they are infected with anti-white hate, and they would denounce any white nationalist as 'racist-fascist' and would report him to the authorities to be arrested.
  119. Alden says:
    @Anon
    Pop Culture has been weaponized.

    madonna as interracist whore and 'pussy march' leader and her ilk have done more harm than a handful of terrorists.

    Terrorists kill a few hundred per year.

    Weaponized celebrities are globo agents who colonize the minds of 100s of millions of whites into accepting slut culture, interracism, 'diversity', jungle fever, ACOWW, pederasty, 'gay marriage', 'inclusion', cuckery, etc.

    Indeed, the reason why Manchester let in all those foreigners and continues to self-hug itself with ugly anti-racist pseudo-virtue is because its people have been mentally colonized by PC and pop culture.

    Colonization of minds is more dangerous than killing a few.
    Romans defeated the Jews and oppressed the Christians, but Christians colonized Roman minds and Christians won. Romans fed few 100s of Christians to lions, but Christians colonized the minds of millions of Romans. Today's mass media spread not only ideas but idols on a global scale to billions of people.

    Pop Culture and PC are weaponized globalist jihad. Pop Culture is no longer just for fun or a diversion. It is the MAIN culture for most white kids. Kids worship celebrities as angels of globalism.
    Those young white girls at the concert were being mentally colonized and sensually manipulated into open borders for immigrant invaders and open vaginas for black Africans.

    The concert was a propaganda act of war.

    Culture matters. This is why the Progs and Glob tear down Confederate statues in the South. It is why they make movies like GET OUT, which are far more dangerous than terror bombings. Terror kills a few 100. Pop Culture or Prop Culture(as it is propaganda) colonize hundreds of millions of white hearts/minds and EFFECTIVELY MURDER the patriot soul-spirit within them.
    Soul-Murder of whites makes whites welcome invasion and their own racial-territorial demise.

    If you want to know why Manchester welcomed so much invasion and continue to do so after the bombing, it is because white minds have been colonized by PC and Pop Culture.
    Indeed, these mentally-colonized whites hate terror bombings not because such attacks are consequences of invasion but because they may strengthen the nationalists who oppose immigrant-invasion.
    Why do whites welcome immigrant-invasion? Because they've been mentally colonized by PC and Pop Culture that says being a white woman means to whore out to the world.

    Suppose Nazis hadn't dropped bombs in UK in WWII but only propaganda material from the air and succeeded in winning over the hearts and minds of millions of Brits. That would have been more damaging.

    It's like US took over so many nations with the 'soft power' of media, academia, and entertainment. Take over minds, you take over souls. The mind-colonized become your slaves.

    Progs know the true meaning of culture as political instrument. This is why they denounce D.W. Griffith's THE BIRTH OF A NATION. They see it as more than just a movie. They see it as proud statement of white racial consciousness. This is why they wage culture war. Culture is a weapon. And as mass media has access to every home via the TV, the TV is the open gate thru which the globalisys get to attack and colonize your minds.
    Why did Jews react so harshly to PASSION OF THE CHRIST? They saw it as Culture War in favor of Christian Pride and Jewish Guilt. Why won't Hollywood make a movie about Nakba or Knoxville Massacre? Because they can be propaganda against Jewish power.

    How did the West come to accept 'gay marriage'? Colonization of white minds via Pop Culture and PC. PC and Pop Culture are globo-jihad.
    They can also be violent. Look at BLM. Look at 'spreading democracy'. Look at destruction of Libya and coup in Ukraine. Look at destruction of Christian businesses for not baking 'gay wedding cake'. Globalism uses both soft jihad and hard jihad. Indeed, even the unleashing of ISIS and Alqaeda is the result of globalism's war on enemies of Israel. Zionist-globalists undermined Arab regimes and let ISIS run riot to mess things up. Thus, Islmic Jihadis are both agents of globalism and its enemy(as Muslims hate western degeneracy).
    Anyway, the real shame is that whites acquiesced to defeat at hands of globalists without resitance and violence.
    I think part of the reason why white rightists rag on Muslim terrorists is this: Muslims have guts enough to resist globalism(even as they've been enabled by it). In contrast, even white patriots make a lot of noise but are afraid to take real action.

    There was a time when whites would have used violence against those who'd dare to stick homo flags in churches, push 'gay marriage' and destroy Christian bakers, and tear down Confederate statues.

    But whites, even right wing ones, don't fight back but only complain NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY ARE HUMILIATED, ABUSED, AND ATTACKED. Only the Alt Right did some pushing back at Berkeley.

    So, when they see the courage of Muslim terrorists, they call them 'losers' and 'cowards'.
    Really? The real cowards are whites who do nothing while General Lee statue is torn down. Real cowards are whites who do nothing while Trump reneges on all his promises. Real cowards are white men who raise their girls to whore out to Negroes. Real cowards are white men who let freaks turn big cities into homo celebration centers and invoke homomania as 'western value' that must be defended from Muslims. Real cowards are whites who praise Jewish globalists who are behind homomania, the attack on Confederate culture, open borders, and Afro-colonization of white wombs.

    Compared to these loser white cowards, at least Muslim terrorists take action against globalist filth.

    A Palestinian child with a rock in west Bank has more guts than all white men in the West who cuck out to Jewish globalists, homo freaks, and black thugs.

    White fathers who let their girls attend that concert are far worse scum than the terrorist who blew it up.

    When he’s not on unz, I wonder what other websites anon frequents? I’m not a feminazis, I’m retired law enforcement who had the rape caseload for many years.

    I’m picking up some very perverted vibes from Anon’s endless rants about Arianna Grande and her fans. Just 20 years experience with sex offenders guys.

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  120. Rurik says: • Website
    @Alden
    The hag and all her ancestors and relatives going back to 1689 are actors put on the throne by various factions. Their job is to learn their lines, follow the script, hit their marks, put on their costumes and do exactly what they are told.

    ER2 did observe a moment of silence. She also endured the drive to Manchester and visited the hospital. At the bedside of one very critically injured child her words of comfort to the girl's father were " you've had quite a jolt haven't you"? I wonder who wrote that line for her? She also said the bombing was "very alarming". And she's the head of the Church of England and "defender of the faith"

    So far, no royals have attended any memorial events.

    She also endured the drive to Manchester and visited the hospital.

    yes, I think she also said something positive about Brexit, and I have to admit I was shocked and pleasantly surprised.

    But as the symbolic head of England, what has transpired under her tenure as “monarch”, such as it is, and the way she willingly went along with all the ‘knighting’ of pedophiles and silence in the face of war crimes and serial villainy and off the charts treason, to include forcing the Brits to pay for an invasion of their ancient island- everything she does now is just too little, too late for me. Alas.

    Actually I hope Harry knocks up Kate and the hag’s bloodline ends (Harry is not blood related to the hag) as Kate whispers in the hag’s ear, Braveheart-like, (as the French queen whispered into Longshank’s dying ear) that the baby in her womb is not of her blood. Then the hag finally croaks.

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    Well, there's little Prince George the son of William. Harry would have to have a child with Kate and kill George the same way so many Engkish royals killed their relatives.

    Actually, the line ended with Victoria. Her real father was not Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, son of George 3. Her real father was some obscure German Victoria's mother used.
    It was pretty well known in court and political circles at the time.

    First, although Prince Edward was about 50 when he married the mother, Edward had no previous children. He had lived with a woman for about 20 years. The mistress had a child by a previous relationship but she and Edward had no children. The numerous illegitimate grand children of George 3 were freely acknowledged and supported as aristocrats according to the customs of the time . So there is no idea that Edward had secret children.

    And then within a few months of the wedding, Victoria's mother is pregnant. The lived in Germany until 4 months before Victoria was born.
    Prince Edward and his brothers were obese, drunks and riddled with STDs. So the deal was made. Victoria's mother's part of the contract was to bear a child after the marriage to Edward. That's all.

    Edward was about 5'10. The mother about 5'3. When Victoria was about 12 people noticed she was only about 4'10 and she never grew taller. It is extremely unusual that the child of normal height parents is that short unless there was childhood malnutrition, disease or injury.

    So the rumors spread in court and political circles.

    Proof came when so many of her grandsons had hemophilia. No one in either fathers or mothers families had a record of hemophilia going back centuries. Hemophilia goes from grandfather to grandson through the mother.

    So the line was broken with the birth of Victoria in 1819.

  121. Alden says:
    @Chris Mallory
    Anon has an interracial cuck fetish. He constantly posts about interracial sex. It seems to be the only topic that flits around in his mind.

    I’m sure inter racial sex also flits around on his computer screen.

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  122. syonredux says:
    @for-the-record
    He fought Germans for the best of all possible reasons: Patriotism. His nation was at war with Germany, and he did his part.

    The thought is by no means original with me (my best thoughts rarely are!), but I see WWI as the start of the collective suicide of the West. And the intervention of the US, to which Rickenbacker "patriotically responded", was the decisive element in ensuring that the "Great War" would be rechristened "WWI".

    , but I see WWI as the start of the collective suicide of the West.

    Things would have probably turned out a lot better if war had not broken out in 1914….At the very least, the Bolshevik Revolution wouldn’t have happened….

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    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    On the other hand, nobody here today would be here today were it not for the events of 1914.

    We all of us owe our very existence to a series of unfortunate events.
  123. annamaria says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Nobody seems to know that before 1500 Islam was tolerant, and welcomed science.
    Even the Ottoman empire was tolerant.
    The fanatical Islam is a western creation, the ayatollahs just got power in Iran after the west had overthrown democratic Iran twice, in 1911 and 1953.

    Ibn Battúta, 'Travels in Asia and Africa 1325 - 1354', 1929, 1983, London

    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992

    W. Morgan Shuster, ´The strangling of Persia, Story of the European diplomacy and oriental intrigue that resulted in the denationalisation of twelve million Mohammedans’, New York, 1912

    Roy Mottahedeh, ‘The Mantle of the Prophet, Religion and Politics in Iran’, Oxford, 1985, 2000

    Thank you for the references.

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  124. @Anonymous
    NE Asians, or even SE Asians (non-Muslim ones), aren't a problem. At all. What white person in his right mind could have a problem with epicanthic Asians? Especially in relation to other immigrant groups! So Derb's offspring and grandchildren will look more like Dean Caine or Johnny Depp than Patton Oswalt, Ricky Gervais or some other pasty-faced endomorph. I can live with that.

    Are you Jewish? Involved with Asians? Johnny Depp is not Asian – he is supposedly part Cherokee, nothing to do with Asians. Ricky Gervais and Patton Oswalt are not Asian. Dean Cain is the rare exception because their weren’t that many Asians when he was born.

    Chinese, Japanese are physically unattractive people who hate whites.

    Also, with today’s international travel, they marry other Asians. I don’t where you live, but where I live Asians marry half-Asians, Jews, blacks – racial evolutionary degeneracy.

    Derbyshire’s son will never be an Ivanhoe. This is because of Derbyshire’s degeneracy.

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  125. Rurik says: • Website
    @Alden
    I've read a lot about Rotherham. Fathers who made police reports were ignored and told to stop wasting police time. Fathers who rescued their daughters from rape houses were arrested and charged with disturbing the peace, assault, affray, inciting to riot etc.

    One 13 yr old screamed long and loudly enough that police were called. When the police arrived they arrested the girl for disturbing the peace and told the 7 rapists to go home.
    The girls were told that if they resisted reported the rapes to the police they and their families would be burnt to death. One girl had her tongue nailed to a table after she reported a rape.

    American men didn't do a very good job of protecting their children from the rampant bullying and a use White children endure in integrated schools did they?

    It was t their fault, it's pretty hard to fight tens of millions channeled from ADL AJC to ACLU NAACP lawsuits to prevent any normal discipline of the feral fiends who abuse out White children.

    But the American record isn't that great. And we submitted to black on White crime and school integration for the same reason the English have submitted to Muslim abuse: massive anti White government pressure.

    Thinking of joining a resistance group? It will consist of ATF informers, FBI informers, state police informers, ADL informers, SPLC informers and you.

    I agree with everything you wrote

    I can’t give a blanket condemnation of the British men when the Americans are simply not that much better, except that nothing as egregious as Rotherham has actually happened yet here, even tho it would be happening everywhere if it were up to ((their)) druthers.

    So I suspect that we are going to get exactly what we’re willing to put up with. They will push us until the breaking point, and they have already done so, in places like Ruby Ridge, where the locals were ready to kill the fecal marshals on sight. Like at Waco. They’ll burn us alive if we try to resist, but resist we had better or we’re all going to get Rotherhams in every town, city and village ((their)) influence reaches. From Norway to Australia, our race are being savaged and little girls treated worse than dogs.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "They’ll burn us alive if we try to resist..."
    Yes, "they" have been preparing vigorously for such outcome for us, as if "they" (the profiteering deciders in high places) will be able to escape the big flame: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47134.htm
    "In response to the things that were said in that advertisement and flier about him [JFK] being a traitor for befriending Russia, he told his wife Jackie on the morning he was assassinated: “We are heading into nut country today.” Of course, as he well knew, the nuts weren’t located only in Dallas. They were also situated throughout the U.S. national-security establishment."
  126. Alden says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The west terrorises Muslims since 1500 !
    For example

    C.R. Boxer, ´The Dutch Seaborne Empire 1600 – 1800´, London 1965, 1977

    Winston Churchill, ‘The Story of the Malakand Field Force’, 1898, 2004, New York

    Ian Hernon, 'Britain's Forgotten Wars, Colonial Campaigns of the 19th Century', 2003, 2007, Chalford - Stroud

    Alan Friedman, ‘Spider’s Web, Bush, Saddam, Thatcher and the Decade of Deceit’, London, 1993

    And the Muslims terrorized the west since 700.

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  127. Alden says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Nobody seems to know that before 1500 Islam was tolerant, and welcomed science.
    Even the Ottoman empire was tolerant.
    The fanatical Islam is a western creation, the ayatollahs just got power in Iran after the west had overthrown democratic Iran twice, in 1911 and 1953.

    Ibn Battúta, 'Travels in Asia and Africa 1325 - 1354', 1929, 1983, London

    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992

    W. Morgan Shuster, ´The strangling of Persia, Story of the European diplomacy and oriental intrigue that resulted in the denationalisation of twelve million Mohammedans’, New York, 1912

    Roy Mottahedeh, ‘The Mantle of the Prophet, Religion and Politics in Iran’, Oxford, 1985, 2000

    Did Richard Fletcher mention that Christian Spanish girls between 10 and 14 were shipped off to the brothels of the Muslim countries for 800 years and that was the main reason Isabella the Catholic banned both the Muslims and the Jewish slave traders who did the actual work of collecting the girls and selling them to Muslims in the Middle East?

    A lot of the glorification of Muslim Spain is just anti European Christian culture propaganda. Or in your case 500 year old Calvinist anti Catholicism.

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    Do you imply that Catholic Church never practiced and abhorred and prohibited slavery?

    "Debate about the morality of slavery continued throughout this period, with some books critical of slavery being placed on the Index of Forbidden Books by the Holy Office between 1573 and 1826." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_slavery
  128. Rurik says: • Website
    @Corvinus
    "Germany was trying to defend herself (and the West) from the depredations of the banking class that had taken over Russia."

    Germany sought revenge against Great Britain and France due to the harsh conditions of the Versailles Treaty and desired to expand their territorial boundaries. Along the way they blamed non-Germans as being agitators and traitors and thus subject to elimination.

    "Hitler (despite his faults) did everything he could to have peace with England..."

    No. He broke a promise by invading Czechoslovakia. He broke a promise by invading Russia. You are covering for him.

    "even to the point of allowing the British army to leave at Dunkirk, when he could have prevented it."

    That decision was made by two field marshals. They believed consolidating their troops would avoid an Allied breakout.

    "If England were an honorable nation of honorable men and women, they would have demanded to be Germany’s ally in destroying the Bolshevik fiend..."

    By that time, Germany was on its way to destroy France, with their target set next on Great Britain. You are playing revisionist historian here.

    "If the British people were an honorable people, they would tell the truth- that Hitler was right to oppose genocidal communism with his last breath, and they were wrong to ally themselves with the Soviet drooling Fiend and destroy Germany out of petty envy."

    Of course the British are honorable, they worked to remove a mad man from power. Had Germany not invaded Russia, perhaps England would have also turned its attention to ousting Soviet leadership from power.

    "white “men” so filled with racial self-loathing that they symbolically allow themselves to be pissed on to mollify their excruciating self-hatred."

    Basically, every single white man who fails to do your racial bidding, who neglects to look out first and foremost for the white man, is a race traitor. How other than reasonable of a position on your part. You are no different than a Fascist who demands unquestioned loyalty to the State. Exactly why tens of millions of white men will not do your bidding. They will exercise their freedom rather than be enslaved by your racial narrative chain.

    Germany was on its way to destroy France, with their target set next on Great Britain. You are playing revisionist historian here.

    destroy France?

    Is that what they did? Or was life under Vichy rule a thousand times better for the French than life in the multicultural cesspool of hatred and strife and terrorist attacks of your agenda, including violence and shit on the streets of Paris?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0dFiV9raCQ

    recently about a third of the people of France voted for a woman who’s campaign was effectively an enforcement of Hitler’s notions of French racial self-determination vs. the multicultural, genocidal idiocy and failed policies you spew.

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  129. Che Guava says:
    @Anon
    Pop Culture has been weaponized.

    madonna as interracist whore and 'pussy march' leader and her ilk have done more harm than a handful of terrorists.

    Terrorists kill a few hundred per year.

    Weaponized celebrities are globo agents who colonize the minds of 100s of millions of whites into accepting slut culture, interracism, 'diversity', jungle fever, ACOWW, pederasty, 'gay marriage', 'inclusion', cuckery, etc.

    Indeed, the reason why Manchester let in all those foreigners and continues to self-hug itself with ugly anti-racist pseudo-virtue is because its people have been mentally colonized by PC and pop culture.

    Colonization of minds is more dangerous than killing a few.
    Romans defeated the Jews and oppressed the Christians, but Christians colonized Roman minds and Christians won. Romans fed few 100s of Christians to lions, but Christians colonized the minds of millions of Romans. Today's mass media spread not only ideas but idols on a global scale to billions of people.

    Pop Culture and PC are weaponized globalist jihad. Pop Culture is no longer just for fun or a diversion. It is the MAIN culture for most white kids. Kids worship celebrities as angels of globalism.
    Those young white girls at the concert were being mentally colonized and sensually manipulated into open borders for immigrant invaders and open vaginas for black Africans.

    The concert was a propaganda act of war.

    Culture matters. This is why the Progs and Glob tear down Confederate statues in the South. It is why they make movies like GET OUT, which are far more dangerous than terror bombings. Terror kills a few 100. Pop Culture or Prop Culture(as it is propaganda) colonize hundreds of millions of white hearts/minds and EFFECTIVELY MURDER the patriot soul-spirit within them.
    Soul-Murder of whites makes whites welcome invasion and their own racial-territorial demise.

    If you want to know why Manchester welcomed so much invasion and continue to do so after the bombing, it is because white minds have been colonized by PC and Pop Culture.
    Indeed, these mentally-colonized whites hate terror bombings not because such attacks are consequences of invasion but because they may strengthen the nationalists who oppose immigrant-invasion.
    Why do whites welcome immigrant-invasion? Because they've been mentally colonized by PC and Pop Culture that says being a white woman means to whore out to the world.

    Suppose Nazis hadn't dropped bombs in UK in WWII but only propaganda material from the air and succeeded in winning over the hearts and minds of millions of Brits. That would have been more damaging.

    It's like US took over so many nations with the 'soft power' of media, academia, and entertainment. Take over minds, you take over souls. The mind-colonized become your slaves.

    Progs know the true meaning of culture as political instrument. This is why they denounce D.W. Griffith's THE BIRTH OF A NATION. They see it as more than just a movie. They see it as proud statement of white racial consciousness. This is why they wage culture war. Culture is a weapon. And as mass media has access to every home via the TV, the TV is the open gate thru which the globalisys get to attack and colonize your minds.
    Why did Jews react so harshly to PASSION OF THE CHRIST? They saw it as Culture War in favor of Christian Pride and Jewish Guilt. Why won't Hollywood make a movie about Nakba or Knoxville Massacre? Because they can be propaganda against Jewish power.

    How did the West come to accept 'gay marriage'? Colonization of white minds via Pop Culture and PC. PC and Pop Culture are globo-jihad.
    They can also be violent. Look at BLM. Look at 'spreading democracy'. Look at destruction of Libya and coup in Ukraine. Look at destruction of Christian businesses for not baking 'gay wedding cake'. Globalism uses both soft jihad and hard jihad. Indeed, even the unleashing of ISIS and Alqaeda is the result of globalism's war on enemies of Israel. Zionist-globalists undermined Arab regimes and let ISIS run riot to mess things up. Thus, Islmic Jihadis are both agents of globalism and its enemy(as Muslims hate western degeneracy).
    Anyway, the real shame is that whites acquiesced to defeat at hands of globalists without resitance and violence.
    I think part of the reason why white rightists rag on Muslim terrorists is this: Muslims have guts enough to resist globalism(even as they've been enabled by it). In contrast, even white patriots make a lot of noise but are afraid to take real action.

    There was a time when whites would have used violence against those who'd dare to stick homo flags in churches, push 'gay marriage' and destroy Christian bakers, and tear down Confederate statues.

    But whites, even right wing ones, don't fight back but only complain NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY ARE HUMILIATED, ABUSED, AND ATTACKED. Only the Alt Right did some pushing back at Berkeley.

    So, when they see the courage of Muslim terrorists, they call them 'losers' and 'cowards'.
    Really? The real cowards are whites who do nothing while General Lee statue is torn down. Real cowards are whites who do nothing while Trump reneges on all his promises. Real cowards are white men who raise their girls to whore out to Negroes. Real cowards are white men who let freaks turn big cities into homo celebration centers and invoke homomania as 'western value' that must be defended from Muslims. Real cowards are whites who praise Jewish globalists who are behind homomania, the attack on Confederate culture, open borders, and Afro-colonization of white wombs.

    Compared to these loser white cowards, at least Muslim terrorists take action against globalist filth.

    A Palestinian child with a rock in west Bank has more guts than all white men in the West who cuck out to Jewish globalists, homo freaks, and black thugs.

    White fathers who let their girls attend that concert are far worse scum than the terrorist who blew it up.

    Thanks, Priss?.

    Sincerely, but I must be sleeping now.

    Only read half, will read all tomorrow.

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  130. res says:
    @Corvinus
    "If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing."

    Exactly what I thought. Justify the murder of people because you oppose the ways they express themselves culturally. Listen, why don't YOU man up and actually do something about the situation rather than be an armchair warrior?

    I’m curious, Corvinus, at what point does this aspect of your shtick become incitement to violence?

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    Excellent question.

    Corvinus's shtick consists of:

    (i) never posting an opinion of his own. Notice how he never offers an original comment, but confines himself to commenting on others' opinions? This is no accident. Corvinus hasn't the moral courage, much less the intellect, to put forth a viewpoint on this site.

    As an aside, there's pretty good evidence Corvinus is actually a woman.

    Anyway, back to this clown's M.O. The second half of his shtick consists of...

    (ii) parsing others' comments, proffering exceptionally pedantic (and, nearly always, irrelevant) comments and questions, and then demanding that the commenter "prove" his statements.

    Needless to say, this is an intellectually and morally cheap tactic (and thus well suited to someone like Corvinus). A forum like this one isn't a court of law. Nor is it an academic debate for which the debaters can reasonably be expected to have ready access to citations to prove their statements.

    Yet Corvinus treats it as such. Of course, this is the main reason why he never posts an opinion of his own: the moment he does so, someone will dissect his comment the same way he dissects others' opinions. They will demand from him the same sort of proof he demands of everyone else.

    And then his shtick will be exposed for what it really is.

    Stumbling across one of Corvinus's comments is like stepping in a pile of dog excrement: it's unpleasant, unexpected, and it always leaves a nasty smell afterwards.
    , @Corvinus
    "I’m curious, Corvinus, at what point does this aspect of your shtick become incitement to violence?"

    It's not a "shtick", it's a challenge to those posters who repeatedly talk about a race war, who repeatedly talk about the future separation of the United States, who repeatedly talk about how someone needs to become physically involved. Are they serious about the future and the machinations of elites destroying everything in their path?

    Remember, people kill people. Little ol' anonymous me on a blog ain't going to be the ultimate trigger mechanism. In the end, they are acting like armchair warriors.

  131. @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    Hi Anon
    Why? I seem to agree with you totally . Decadence has become our culture, I’ve seen young girls that look no more than twelve years of age, accompanied by parents, dressed as if they’re going to or just came out of brothels. Is this what we call “Western civilization”?

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  132. Comparing Norman conquest of Britain to a what is going now is a nonsense. Normans defeated Anglo Saxon at Hastings and took over through the force of arms. Muslims are miserable weak strangers who are having their way only thanks to lack of will power and feeling of guilt. The whole problem can be resolved within relatively short time giving will and sense of self preservation which Western societies completely lost. Elites that are being constantly elected is just a reflection of this sorry state of affairs. The elephant in the room is demography. All of developed capitalistic countries reached such level of capitalism development that they basically cannot even reproduce at replacement level. It is too damn expensive to have kids and people seem to lose basic instinct. This is the main reason that alliens are being imported to make up for falling original population. Bringing back at least for a start some sense of self preservation and starting mistreating those strangers , I mean really mistreating them, would be a good start on a way to survival. People who would start this would not be satisfied with current state of affairs at the top. So far, western public behaves like sheep taken to a slaugher house.

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    William brought about 10, ooo soldiers to England. About 5,000 of them were Bretons from BrittanyThey were the revanchist descendants of the indegenous Britons who fled England 500AD because of the Saxon takeover. They came back and took back the lands the Saxons took from them.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Over on Steve Sailer's blog, he notes that Jews in Israel now have fertility levels on par with those of Arabs. So it is possible to raise fertility levels. Personally, I don't see a slowly declining population that retains its native characteristics (e.g., Japan) as much of a problem, aside from some short-term transitions due to "bulges" in age cohorts. I'm old enough to remember when the United States had less than 200 million people and it didn't seem empty.

    I avoid doing business with Negroes and Arabs whenever possible. If I see Negroes or Arabs behind the counter, I walk out unless I really have to buy a specific item.
    , @annamaria
    "I mean really mistreating them..."
    Should not we start with the "deciders?" - With Blair, Bush, Condi, Wolfi, Cheney, Sarkozy, Hollande, Merkel and other Friends of Israel and emissaries of the captains of finance and MIC?
    , @Philip Owen
    Actually, the Anglo Saxon occupation was more akin to Muslim immigration. They came over in late Roman times, sometimes pillaging but also doing work as security guards and farmers for the wealthy. The first arrivals were not prosperous. Later, of course ...
  133. Keep fetishising the victims and ignore the culpability of the British government and NATO in the destruction of and war crimes in, Libya.

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    Agree. the problem will stay unsolvable until the war criminals (according to the working definition of international law) are judged and convicted. Life in prison and total confiscation of their assets sounds right .
  134. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    She also endured the drive to Manchester and visited the hospital.
     
    yes, I think she also said something positive about Brexit, and I have to admit I was shocked and pleasantly surprised.

    But as the symbolic head of England, what has transpired under her tenure as "monarch", such as it is, and the way she willingly went along with all the 'knighting' of pedophiles and silence in the face of war crimes and serial villainy and off the charts treason, to include forcing the Brits to pay for an invasion of their ancient island- everything she does now is just too little, too late for me. Alas.

    Actually I hope Harry knocks up Kate and the hag's bloodline ends (Harry is not blood related to the hag) as Kate whispers in the hag's ear, Braveheart-like, (as the French queen whispered into Longshank's dying ear) that the baby in her womb is not of her blood. Then the hag finally croaks.

    Well, there’s little Prince George the son of William. Harry would have to have a child with Kate and kill George the same way so many Engkish royals killed their relatives.

    Actually, the line ended with Victoria. Her real father was not Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, son of George 3. Her real father was some obscure German Victoria’s mother used.
    It was pretty well known in court and political circles at the time.

    First, although Prince Edward was about 50 when he married the mother, Edward had no previous children. He had lived with a woman for about 20 years. The mistress had a child by a previous relationship but she and Edward had no children. The numerous illegitimate grand children of George 3 were freely acknowledged and supported as aristocrats according to the customs of the time . So there is no idea that Edward had secret children.

    And then within a few months of the wedding, Victoria’s mother is pregnant. The lived in Germany until 4 months before Victoria was born.
    Prince Edward and his brothers were obese, drunks and riddled with STDs. So the deal was made. Victoria’s mother’s part of the contract was to bear a child after the marriage to Edward. That’s all.

    Edward was about 5’10. The mother about 5’3. When Victoria was about 12 people noticed she was only about 4’10 and she never grew taller. It is extremely unusual that the child of normal height parents is that short unless there was childhood malnutrition, disease or injury.

    So the rumors spread in court and political circles.

    Proof came when so many of her grandsons had hemophilia. No one in either fathers or mothers families had a record of hemophilia going back centuries. Hemophilia goes from grandfather to grandson through the mother.

    So the line was broken with the birth of Victoria in 1819.

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  135. Vinteuil says:
    @biz
    Except that the legitimate grievance (tm) hypothesis of Islamic terror does not fit the data.

    For one thing, Islamists are committing as much or even more terror against non-Western targets than Western ones, against peoples who by no stretch of the imagination (even the Unz imagination!) could be seen to have anything to do with Western countries 'meddling' in the Middle East. There is an ongoing Islamist terror insurgency in the south of Thailand, and the Philippines, both with countless unspeakable atrocities, including against Buddhist clergy and tribal peoples. There is Al Shabab in Kenya, which attacks Muslim and Christian black Kenyans, and Boko Haram in Nigeria whose victims have been entirely black Nigerians. I could go on but you get it - if Islamic terrorism was related to 'killing Muslims' as you out it, then there should be no Islamic terror against places where there is in fact much.

    Instead, Islamic terrorism is caused by their religious belief that the entire world should be under the umbrella of Islam and that an eternity in paradise awaits those who die bringing that about.

    “Islamists are committing as much or even more terror against non-Western targets than Western ones, against peoples who by no stretch of the imagination (even the Unz imagination!) could be seen to have anything to do with Western countries ‘meddling’ in the Middle East.”

    Exactly.

    Like John Derbyshire, I’m almost as much against “invade the world” as I am against “invite the world.” But let’s not be under any illusions: Muslims in large numbers are big trouble, whether you’re intervening in their internecine squabbles or not.

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  136. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Mr Derbyshire, I followed your Ivanhoe link to Amazon, thinking I might pick up that classic I’d never read. The reviews are full of admonitions to read the book, especially now that there’s such a resurgence of violent anti-semitism, because as the book shows repeatedly, English and Normans alike are cruel and racist jew-haters, while Jews are good and kind and gentle.

    Not one of the reviews seems to recognise that Ivanhoe is a novel. I think I’ll pass, frankly.

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    The Jewish family in the book is based on the Shylock Issac of York who was forced to contribute some of his usury fortune to ransom King Richard from the Holy Roman Emperor. Movie is on TV sometimes. It's enjoyable.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    I started Ivanhoe, but I put it down when one of the characters reminisces about the day that his father fought at the Battle of Hastings. Hastings was 1066, Ivanhoe was set during the reign of King Richard the Lionheart (1189-1199). Physically impossible. I know it's fiction but historical fiction can't be impossible.
    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    It's hard to believe you will give it a pass since the book extols virtues of the Jews (Issac of York and daughter Rebecca) & shows Normans and Saxons in bloody light, exactly as you describe it... hope you enjoyed the lively exchange of the Fool and the swineherd!
  137. @Cyrano
    The west has two faces in regards to the middle east. One is kind, welcoming and accepting refugees and immigrants from the ME. The other face of the west is also supposedly kind – it goes to Muslim counties and helps them get rid of dictators – although nobody asked them to, but I guess kindness cannot be contained. Unfortunately, in the process of helping them reach the pinnacle of human achievement – democracy – the west wrecks country after country in the ME. My point is that both faces of the west are phony. You can’t be kind and cruel at the same time. It just doesn’t work that way. One overrides the other and can’t be counterbalanced by phoniness.

    Hi Cyrano, point well taken. But we don’t go to ME to take out dictators. We simply get rid of the ones we don’t like and make sure we kill as many as we can, destroy the lives of those we haven’t killed, and demolish the whole place. Just because we can do it, with orders from you know who………

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  138. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @jilles dykstra
    Nobody seems to know that before 1500 Islam was tolerant, and welcomed science.
    Even the Ottoman empire was tolerant.
    The fanatical Islam is a western creation, the ayatollahs just got power in Iran after the west had overthrown democratic Iran twice, in 1911 and 1953.

    Ibn Battúta, 'Travels in Asia and Africa 1325 - 1354', 1929, 1983, London

    Richard Fletcher, ‘Moorish Spain’, Berkeley 1992

    W. Morgan Shuster, ´The strangling of Persia, Story of the European diplomacy and oriental intrigue that resulted in the denationalisation of twelve million Mohammedans’, New York, 1912

    Roy Mottahedeh, ‘The Mantle of the Prophet, Religion and Politics in Iran’, Oxford, 1985, 2000

    “The world holds two classes of men – intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence.”

    Abu’l-Ala-Al-Ma’arri (973-1057; Syrian poet)

    Somehow I doubt he’d be venerated today…

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    Yeah, yeah, you're an atheist. We get it. I don't believe in any kind of God either but I keep my beliefs to myself unlike you, the atheist missionary.

    Christianity is dead in the Netherlands. So your atheist missionary activities are useless and redundant in Netherlands.

    If you want to spread your atheism to Christians I suggest you move to Russia and attempt to reconvert them from Christianity back to atheism.
  139. Art says:
    @Randal
    This latest Manchester bombing is the perfect illustration of the twofold nature of the problem of invade the world/invite the world. Furthermore it comes on top of another similarly perfect illustration of that twofold nature, in the Orlando shootings. In both cases a 2nd generation immigrant whose parents were only here because it suited the US/UK regimes to have them here as oppositionist tools for the destabilisation and overthrow of foreign governments, who in each case openly declare the ongoing butchery our governments are responsible for in the ME and North Africa as direct motivating factors for their own violence, was enabled to attack their host nations by immigration.

    Derbyshire's piece does a good job of skewering the "invite the world" side of the issue, but ignores "invade the world".

    In 2011, you’ll recall, Barack Obama, prompted by the Three Horsegirls of the Apocalypse—Samantha Power of Obama’s National Security Council, his U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, and his Secretary of State Hillary Clinton—who in turn were prompted by Britain and France, with an assist from George Soros—overthrew Colonel Gaddafy.

    Salman Abedi’s parents thereupon, in 2011, returned to Libya. Salman Abedi, then 17, stayed in the U.K.
     
    That's barely the beginning of the story, with its murky elements of the UK regime's security forces using jihadist terrorism as a weapon for regime change in Libya and Syria, in which this family seem to have been up to their necks. Even the BBC reported on some of these murky aspects in the immediate aftermath of the bombing (though doubtless that line of inquiry will be quietly dropped, or suppressed).

    Manchester attack: Who was Salman Abedi?

    This was as clear a case of "blowback" as you'll get.

    Derbyshire’s piece does a good job of skewering the “invite the world” side of the issue, but ignores “invade the world”.

    (Sarcasm on.)

    It seems that identity social politics is working against us – we kill 2 identity folks – then 4 more pop-up. There are only one billion of this identity. We need a way out of this.

    Clearly as the preeminent exceptional nation on the planet, we are entitled to our revenge after 9/11.

    Would it be good if congress (bi-partisan Zionist) were to set a minimum number of Muslim kills and displacements that would assuage and placate our dignity after 9/11?

    In that way, when we reach the minimum, we can be magnanimous and proudly proclaim peace – and go home.

    (Sarcasm off.)

    p.s. Of course that could never happen with the Jews controlling congress.

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    911 was an inside job, and Zionists were in the thick of it!
  140. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wizard of Oz
    Rubbish. It's a matter of quality control and I haven't met or seen an Indian or. Chinese immigrant in Australia who wasn't almost certainly raising the average IQ. Not a 100 per cent guarantee of all round success amd benefit (cf. Jews in Russia from the partition of Poland onwards) but it's a lot better than US ethnic mixes.

    There are lots of smart chinese, indians, and jews, and many other people. That doesn’t mean we need another hundred million of their fellow countrymen.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Indeed - or even 5 million for Australia. But, to repeat, quality is the key to which I would add some good reason on the part of smart people to come to my country which means they give in taxes, expertise or enterprise more than any claims they will predictably make for at least 35 years. And of course one wants a mixture: plenty of overseas Chinese and Indians from different backgrounds.
  141. Vinteuil says:
    @jilles dykstra
    In 2004 the King of Jordan, the ruling Saud at the time in Saudi Arabia, and Mucharraf in Pakistan all told senator Hollings that the only way to end terrorism was to establish peace between Israel and the Palestinians.
    Since 2004 the west did nothing for peace, on the contrary, efforts to destabilise the ME, and North Africa continued, an were intensified.
    Deradicalisation is making Muslims believe that what they see happening is not happening.
    It may succeed in a few cases, but it so me seems impossible in general.
    So attacks in the west will continue, it is, as Mearsheimer and Walt write 'the strategy of the weak'.
    On top of that, the west needs terrorism, if necessary does it herself, in order to make the western societies more totalitarian all the time 'for our safety'.
    The destabilisation in ME and N Africa causes massive migration, the destabilisation of the European countries is welcome, in order to create an Europe, a USA clone.

    “In 2004 the King of Jordan, the ruling Saud at the time in Saudi Arabia, and Mucharraf in Pakistan all told senator Hollings that the only way to end terrorism was to establish peace between Israel and the Palestinians.”

    I.e., there is no way to end terrorism.

    But maybe we can confine it, a bit?

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  142. Vinteuil says:
    @Mark Green
    Too bad that Derb invariably glosses over the fact the the UK invaded and bombed and helped destroy one of the most prosperous nations in all of Africa. This fact doesn't matter?

    Zio-NATO's 2011 attack on Libya was not only a war crime, it produced waves of destitute refugees who subsequently poured into Europe.

    When 'civilized' nations like the US and UK commit mass murder, there it going to be blowback.

    If we insist that Muslims' (in this case, Libyans) respect our borders, we must do the same regarding their borders. (See: borders, aggressive war, international law).

    Why doesn't Derb understand this? He pretends to be civilized.

    Is Derb's outrage a product of mendacity or simpleminded hypocrisy?

    John Derbyshire quite unambiguously opposed our intervention in Libya.

    So what are you on about?

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  143. Alden says:
    @Rurik


    "In contrast, white fathers worship the very Negroes who conquer and colonize their daughters’ wombs"
     
    Not any White man I’ve ever met. What kind of White men do you know?
     
    they're out there, trust me

    here's one who painted his body as a tribute (including a black snake) in homage to a black athlete who admitted to brutally raping and sodomizing a young white woman.
    (for confessing to the crime, he wasn't punished in any way whatsoever. Indeed, he became a pop-culture hero and you'd find posters of him on the windows of shoe stores and athletic gear)

    http://a.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/NBA/images/2016/04/12/041216-NBA-Kobe-Bryant-Fan-IA.jpg

    this is so far below degraded, that I don't even know where to categorize it

    what wouldn't a guy like this do to abase himself to his (black) hero?

    I know only normal White men. Some I know watch a few sports events a year on TV or even go to a game once a year. I don’t believe any White or other race man I know has ever mentioned Kobe Bryant to me. And I live in Los Angeles where he works.

    I know normal White men who don’t worship black athletes and don’t “deliver their daughters wombs” to black men.

    Why tell me about all your friends who worship black athletes and wish they had daughters to deliver to black men? The endless rants about sex of you and others is inappropriate, pornographic, distasteful, disgusting, degenerate and depraved. I get it. Ms grande is a poem preformer and her fans and their mothers are sluts. Are we to read the endless rants for years?

    This is supposed to be a site where respectable people discuss politics and current events, not a place where perverted wankers post their porn fantasies.

    And why did you provide that link? Do you expect me to look at a picture of black rapist Kobe Bryant and his ridiculous admirer? No way in hell. I sent too many black rapists to Quentin, Folsum and Pelican Bay to want to look at another one.

    Once more my question. Why do you spend so much time on the internet looking at black rapists you pervert?

    I spent 20 years of my life sending black rapists to prison.

    What have you, anon and all the pervert wankers ever done but roam the Internet looking for black/ White porn?

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    What have you, anon and all the pervert wankers ever done but roam the Internet looking for black/ White porn?
     
    you doth protest too much, methinks

    I don’t believe any White or other race man I know has ever mentioned Kobe Bryant to me.
     
    I knew a few. Back when it happened, they were saying the victim was nothing but a gold-digging whore who had went to his room. "what did she expect to happen?'

    and so forth.

    You don't have to know sports fans to understand that Kobe was lionized as a great hero afterwards and roll model. Like I said, his posters were on shoe stores all over America.

    don’t “deliver their daughters wombs” to black men.
     
    that's just Priss's hyperbolic style. He doesn't mean that literally.

    but if his point is that England is encouraging the breeding away of its vile, racist, white genes by importing non-whites and promoting miscegenation

    (that looks to me like a British style of architecture in the background)

    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/poolside.jpg?w=620&h=465

    perhaps the father/photographer's daughter is on the left with the fellow flipping the bird

    (you don't have to click on it if you're too scared. I post it for the general edification of all ; )

    here's the (Jewish) former president of France explaining that if the French don't race mix willingly, they'll have to be forced to by the state.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDaKFE_J_ug

    here's a German politician cheering on the same thing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pk2UMqqyfY

    this has nothing to do with your porn obsession. Rather it has to do with the genocidal hatred being directed at the people of the West, and often times most vociferously from certain types of people from inside the West who, like the German politician and others, (gays, Jews, radical feminists, minorities of all stripes and colors who can not be blamed for wanting to feast on the dying carcass of the Western world).

    What happened in Rotherham has nothing to do with porn. OK. At least I hope not. But rather the issue of the sickness of the West and their cowardice in the face of political correctness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQNUJlJaN7c

    Once more my question. Why do you spend so much time on the internet looking at black rapists you pervert?
     
    what kind of asshole makes a completely spurious charge like that?

    This is supposed to be a site where respectable people discuss politics and current events, not a place where perverted wankers post their porn fantasies.
     
    do us all a favor and take your own advise
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Over on Steve Sailer's blog, he's had a number of articles on the recruitment of black athletes into college athletics, especially football. These athletes are recruited, and alumnae, mostly white alumnae, are complicit in the process, knowing that there is a substantial risk that they will rape white co-eds. At Baylor there are allegations (unproven, I concede, at this point) that black recruits were told explicitly that white co-eds would be sexually available. You don't need to frequent interracial porn sites (ugh!!) to realize that black college athletes are being put in an environment where there will be numerous opportunities to have sex (voluntarily or otherwise) with white co-eds, and that the process is organized mostly by white men.
  144. mcohen says:
    @Rurik

    A Palestinian child with a rock in west Bank has more guts than all white men in the West who cuck out to Jewish globalists, homo freaks, and black thugs.

    White fathers who let their girls attend that concert are far worse scum
     
    I often call them human urinals

    white "men" so filled with racial self-loathing that they symbolically allow themselves to be pissed on to mollify their excruciating self-hatred

    I condemn the terrorist with all my breath, but I have to admit, he isn't perhaps as morally execrable as the white men who sat by in Rotherham as their daughters were being passed around

    only time I will agree with you on this forum.rotherham defies explanation.and then you have oasis singing ….don’t look back in anger

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  145. Sean says:

    http://www.unz.com/pfrost/how-universal-is-empathy/

    French psychiatrists in Algeria found themselves faced with a difficult problem. When treating a melancholic patient, they were accustomed to being afraid of suicide. The melancholic Algerian kills, however. This disease of the moral conscience that is always accompanied by self-accusation and self-destructive tendencies assumes hetero-destructive forms in the Algerian. The melancholic Algerian does not commit suicide. He kills. (Fanon, 1970, pp. 219-220)

    m/politics/uk/2016/07/excitement-hatred-and-belonging-why-terrorists-do-it
    Much of what human beings do isn’t the result of a calculation of con­sequences, but more an expression of their sense of identity. Philosophers describe this as expressive rationality, an idea they use to explain why voting in circumstances where you know your vote can make no practical difference can still be in accordance with reason.

    If there are many people in Libya like Albedi (ie those with drive for expressive rationality) it wasn’t all that surprising for the country to have a serious uprising. Gaddafi had made an international terrorism sponsoring nuisance of himself too. Libya is a pest of a country, always has been, always will be.

    Mass Third World immigration is an existential threat, though. Whole districts of Britain’s cities and towns have been completely taken over—colonized—by people utterly alien to Britain’s history and culture. That is an existential threat.

    True. And that is why you should concentrate on that issue, and avoid conflating it with the West bombing and gassing Kurds or Bolsheviks, or whoever it is this century. If Westerners want to kill and be killed, then that is their expressive identity business, as long as they do abroad it as volunteer members of the West’s armed forces. Lindbergh conflated foreign wars with demographic replacement of the West, and look what happened. But he got one thing right, Lindy saw Russia as essentially part of the the Asiatic enemy, with the Persian ,Mongol and Moor.

    Look at what Unz’s Russia expert thinks lies in store http://www.unz.com/tsaker/the-future-of-islam-in-western-europe/

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  146. Vinteuil says:
    @biz
    What would even be the point of staging such a hoax? That incident didn't change anything, nor did any other incident.

    After each and every Islamist terror atrocity, everything stays the same. The pathetic apologists go ahead and do their thing. People who mistrust Islam still mistrust Islam. Idiots who think that US foreign policy is to blame continue to think that US foreign policy is to blame. Idiots who think that only a "tiny minority" hold radical views continue to think that. Huffington Post continues to tell us that the real problem is not the dozens of smoldering bodies, it is the "backlash" where someone got called a name in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Since nothing changes, what is even the point?

    “What would even be the point of staging such a hoax? That incident didn’t change anything, nor did any other incident.”

    That is the crucial question that none of these guys can ever answer. What was the point? What were these supposed false flaggers trying to achieve?

    “After each and every Islamist terror atrocity, everything stays the same. The pathetic apologists go ahead and do their thing. People who mistrust Islam still mistrust Islam. Idiots who think that US foreign policy is to blame continue to think that US foreign policy is to blame. Idiots who think that only a “tiny minority” hold radical views continue to think that. Huffington Post continues to tell us that the real problem is not the dozens of smoldering bodies, it is the “backlash” where someone got called a name in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Since nothing changes, what is even the point?”

    Couldn’t put it any better myself.

    These false flaggers are supposed to be, at one and the same time (1) so omni-competent that they can pass off as real a gigantic theatrical event involving hundreds, or even thousands, of actors, with the full complicity of the American media – and, (2) so in-competent that they never notice that none of these events ever have the slightest effect on American policy, foreign or domestic.

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  147. Alden says:
    @Anon


    "The world holds two classes of men – intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence."

    Abu'l-Ala-Al-Ma'arri (973-1057; Syrian poet)
     
    Somehow I doubt he'd be venerated today...

    Yeah, yeah, you’re an atheist. We get it. I don’t believe in any kind of God either but I keep my beliefs to myself unlike you, the atheist missionary.

    Christianity is dead in the Netherlands. So your atheist missionary activities are useless and redundant in Netherlands.

    If you want to spread your atheism to Christians I suggest you move to Russia and attempt to reconvert them from Christianity back to atheism.

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  148. Alden says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    Comparing Norman conquest of Britain to a what is going now is a nonsense. Normans defeated Anglo Saxon at Hastings and took over through the force of arms. Muslims are miserable weak strangers who are having their way only thanks to lack of will power and feeling of guilt. The whole problem can be resolved within relatively short time giving will and sense of self preservation which Western societies completely lost. Elites that are being constantly elected is just a reflection of this sorry state of affairs. The elephant in the room is demography. All of developed capitalistic countries reached such level of capitalism development that they basically cannot even reproduce at replacement level. It is too damn expensive to have kids and people seem to lose basic instinct. This is the main reason that alliens are being imported to make up for falling original population. Bringing back at least for a start some sense of self preservation and starting mistreating those strangers , I mean really mistreating them, would be a good start on a way to survival. People who would start this would not be satisfied with current state of affairs at the top. So far, western public behaves like sheep taken to a slaugher house.

    William brought about 10, ooo soldiers to England. About 5,000 of them were Bretons from BrittanyThey were the revanchist descendants of the indegenous Britons who fled England 500AD because of the Saxon takeover. They came back and took back the lands the Saxons took from them.

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    See cannot be said about recent arrivals. They are completely allien elements.
    , @Uebersetzer
    Nah. Brittany was an impoverished duchy, semi-independent of the French king and a ready source of troops for various ventures, just as its sailors were later to be the backbone of the French navy. Henry Tudor also picked up some Bretons when he invaded England in 1485 to remove Richard III. Centuries later, Bretons who were pious Catholics and often lacked fluency in the French language were considered a good bet to garrison Paris as they were not likely to be too influenced by the locals.
    I doubt whether there was a clear sense of avenging what the Saxons had done even in 1066, and it was certainly no motivation later.
  149. Vinteuil says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    And the bombing of Libya has nothing to do with it. Stop killing Muslims,
     
    Agree!

    and they will stop killing u.
     
    Disagree.

    Catch 22? Conundrum?

    “Stop killing Muslims…

    Agree!

    and they will stop killing u.

    Disagree.”

    That pretty much sums it up.

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  150. Alden says:
    @Anon
    Mr Derbyshire, I followed your Ivanhoe link to Amazon, thinking I might pick up that classic I'd never read. The reviews are full of admonitions to read the book, especially now that there's such a resurgence of violent anti-semitism, because as the book shows repeatedly, English and Normans alike are cruel and racist jew-haters, while Jews are good and kind and gentle.

    Not one of the reviews seems to recognise that Ivanhoe is a novel. I think I'll pass, frankly.

    The Jewish family in the book is based on the Shylock Issac of York who was forced to contribute some of his usury fortune to ransom King Richard from the Holy Roman Emperor. Movie is on TV sometimes. It’s enjoyable.

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  151. Cyrano says:

    How the west was f**ked: Go to the middle east, wreak havoc there – supposedly to bring democracy. At home, bring hundreds of thousands of those whose countries you destroyed – show them the splendors of the west, taunt them with it – this is what you couldn’t have at home, because you were too busy with your religion. Tell them it’s OK– you don’t want to assimilate them, it’s OK to keep their religion and culture, but make them feel inadequate in a million subtle ways, make them feel like they never belonged in the west.

    Result? Well, they can’t go back home, the place is wrecked, in the west they feel alienated, but nevertheless they feel compelled to return all the kindness that the west has bestowed on them. So they check what size vest they wear, and how much explosive they can put on it. The west’s fate was sealed when the US got (self) appointed as guardians of the western civilization. In order to be a guardian of something, you first have to appreciate it.

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  152. @Wally
    But millions of euro whites are not flooding into their cesspools called countries.

    If they had a problem with the US military the little cowards would stay and fight them.

    Last time I looked although Uncle Sam, NATO, etc., etc. have been in Afghanistan since 2002 the Taliban have not been defeated, quite the contrary.

    We invaded that “cesspool” called Iraq and brought a pro Iran gov’t to power and an insurgency called ISIS. Lots of Iraqis and Syrians on the run. We removed Gaddafi and got lots of refugees plus a failed state. One could argue if you destroy a state you have a responsibility to clean up the mess you have made, including taking in some of the refugees you created. “If you break it, you own it.”

    It seems to me US military intervention has been a failure; we have lost every war. I keep wondering why Trump put so many failed US military “leaders” on the payroll in jobs like National Security Advisor, etc.

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    It seems to me US military intervention has been a failure; we have lost every war.

    Nice accurate comment but no "Jew" word is used.

    You cannot talk honestly about America’s direction in the last 50 years - culturally, economically, or military – without using the Jew word in a negative way.

    It has to be faced - or NOTHING good will happen - end of story.

    Peace --- Art
  153. mcohen says:

    I spoke to a computer the other day and asked him if red herring was kosher.he said as long as it has no marx on it,or white streaks it is kosher.(white streaks come from white mans you know what.)
    I asked him about triangles.are they kosher.he looked at me as if I was nuts.
    I said was salaam,trump,and salman a triangle and he said ask upstairs.I said is it a coincidence that trumps travels and manchester happened on the same day.
    know what.I asked upstairs and I was told to comfort the sick.the injured.when the time is right there will be rolling stones.

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    • Replies: @Bel Riose
    Please write a book of your essays.

    I'll buy it and read it.

    Then I'll know what it's like to snort too much coke, sit down at a keyboard, and start typing!!
  154. Rurik says: • Website
    @Alden
    I know only normal White men. Some I know watch a few sports events a year on TV or even go to a game once a year. I don't believe any White or other race man I know has ever mentioned Kobe Bryant to me. And I live in Los Angeles where he works.

    I know normal White men who don't worship black athletes and don't "deliver their daughters wombs" to black men.

    Why tell me about all your friends who worship black athletes and wish they had daughters to deliver to black men? The endless rants about sex of you and others is inappropriate, pornographic, distasteful, disgusting, degenerate and depraved. I get it. Ms grande is a poem preformer and her fans and their mothers are sluts. Are we to read the endless rants for years?

    This is supposed to be a site where respectable people discuss politics and current events, not a place where perverted wankers post their porn fantasies.

    And why did you provide that link? Do you expect me to look at a picture of black rapist Kobe Bryant and his ridiculous admirer? No way in hell. I sent too many black rapists to Quentin, Folsum and Pelican Bay to want to look at another one.

    Once more my question. Why do you spend so much time on the internet looking at black rapists you pervert?

    I spent 20 years of my life sending black rapists to prison.

    What have you, anon and all the pervert wankers ever done but roam the Internet looking for black/ White porn?

    What have you, anon and all the pervert wankers ever done but roam the Internet looking for black/ White porn?

    you doth protest too much, methinks

    I don’t believe any White or other race man I know has ever mentioned Kobe Bryant to me.

    I knew a few. Back when it happened, they were saying the victim was nothing but a gold-digging whore who had went to his room. “what did she expect to happen?’

    and so forth.

    You don’t have to know sports fans to understand that Kobe was lionized as a great hero afterwards and roll model. Like I said, his posters were on shoe stores all over America.

    don’t “deliver their daughters wombs” to black men.

    that’s just Priss’s hyperbolic style. He doesn’t mean that literally.

    but if his point is that England is encouraging the breeding away of its vile, racist, white genes by importing non-whites and promoting miscegenation

    (that looks to me like a British style of architecture in the background)

    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/poolside.jpg?w=620&h=465

    perhaps the father/photographer’s daughter is on the left with the fellow flipping the bird

    (you don’t have to click on it if you’re too scared. I post it for the general edification of all ; )

    here’s the (Jewish) former president of France explaining that if the French don’t race mix willingly, they’ll have to be forced to by the state.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDaKFE_J_ug

    here’s a German politician cheering on the same thing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pk2UMqqyfY

    this has nothing to do with your porn obsession. Rather it has to do with the genocidal hatred being directed at the people of the West, and often times most vociferously from certain types of people from inside the West who, like the German politician and others, (gays, Jews, radical feminists, minorities of all stripes and colors who can not be blamed for wanting to feast on the dying carcass of the Western world).

    What happened in Rotherham has nothing to do with porn. OK. At least I hope not. But rather the issue of the sickness of the West and their cowardice in the face of political correctness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQNUJlJaN7c

    Once more my question. Why do you spend so much time on the internet looking at black rapists you pervert?

    what kind of asshole makes a completely spurious charge like that?

    This is supposed to be a site where respectable people discuss politics and current events, not a place where perverted wankers post their porn fantasies.

    do us all a favor and take your own advise

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    • Replies: @Alden
    All you can write about is Whites having sex with black and brown men and having their babies.

    I put black rapists in prison for 20 years. All you do is post links and rant away about other people's sex lives.
    Your friends claimed Kobe Bryant's victim was a gold digger. My friends didn't speak to me about it.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Did you listen to what Sarkozy was really saying in French? Obviously not. Can I offer you a half share in the Golden Gate Bridge with lunch with Warren Buffett tossed in? Cheap at double the price...
  155. @Jonathan Mason
    Like the author, I grew up in the UK in happier times and am now a US citizen.

    It is a pity that free speech no longer exists in England, because prohibiting discussion of ideas skews all political debate. For example, it is pretty obvious that the successful Brexit vote was pretty much a plebiscite on unlimited immigration and loss of sovereignty, except that it would be illegal to say so in a UK publication, as this would be "hate speech."

    However I do believe that the well-intended reason for the hate speech laws is to prevent a bad situation getting even worse, rather than to stop people from knowing what they can see with their own eyes.

    I am reminded of a court case in the UK a few years ago in which a well-known soap opera star was on trial for the rape of a 6 year old girl several years earlier. Many UK readers were baffled by the story since secrecy laws meant that nearly all the salient details of the case could not be reported upon, nor were the media even allowed to say what they were not allowed to report on.

    For example, it was not clear why the girl and the allegist rapist were living under the same roof. Had the public known that the girl in question was the man's own daughter, and that the rape allegations were part of a particularly nasty divorce dispute several years later, they might have been better able to form an opinion of his guilt or innocence.

    As it happens, the accused was acquitted, possible because forensic medical evidence showed that the alleged victim was still a virgin at the time of the trial, but it was a close run thing, and the judge directed that jury that medical proof of the girl's virginity did not necessarily mean that she has not been raped. (Whatever!)

    When so much of public life and politics cannot be reported upon, it is not surprising that people will arrive at false conclusions, or find ways of protesting that which cannot be discussed.

    Like voting for Brexit.

    A pity to spoil a defensible case with BS.

    “Brexit was pretty much a plebiscitre on immigration and loss of sovereignty, but it would be illegal to say so becsuse it would be ‘hate speech’ “.

    You must be right out of touch. I hear just that said when I am in tbe UK and read it and hear it broadcast from the UK when I am not there.

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  156. LauraMR says:
    @Rurik

    ...someone put this kid up to this

    ...white Europeans are superior to all other races so the kid was by virtue of ancestry a lesser, defective human being to begin with...
     
    "kid" eh?

    just a poor, misunderstood victim of the racism of white Europeans, eh?

    I have no idea what actually happened in Manchester, and you're right, it could be another Zio-false flag, but if it's true this hatred-crazed monster murdered children in this way, then you're absolutely correct in assuming that there are people like me who would consider such a person as "defective", regardless of his race

    but the problem isn't "lack of assimilation", but the evil madness and suicidal insanity of 'invade the world / invite the world'. And the cowards and traitors and vile scum who refuse to mention this, because for what ever reason, the invade/invite suits their own personal agendas

    Kid, for sure, at 22… but I suppose if you are about his age you are simply not capable of understanding this.

    As for “misunderstood victim”, not at all, in my opinion. However, please note the “blessing” he has been given by the first commenter, one that probably considers himself “white”, whatever that might mean to him, you, or those ranting about “race”.

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    whatever that might mean to him, you, or those ranting about “race”.
     
    what was your original [sarcastic] comment?

    white Europeans are superior to all other races so the kid was by virtue of ancestry a lesser, defective human being to begin with…
     
    oh yea

    and he stopped being a "kid" when he murdered innocent children. And in a nation that had welcomed his parents and schooled him and no doubt gave him every opportunity they could.

    and then how does this "kid" repay the British people for their compassion, kindness and generosity?

    he blows up their children with a horrific device intended to send metal fragments ripping through their little bodies.

    those were kids Laura, not the savage, murderous, hatred-consumed scum who slaughtered them.

    calling him a kid is a way of mitigating his heinous crime and suggesting he's somehow less culpable because of his age. At 22, this POS knew what he was doing.

    for the record, if he had used his (admittedly young) life to wage war against the satanic fiend that has ravaged the land of his ancestors, then I would applaud him. If he had tracked down Tony Blair, or any other war criminal guilty of atrocities and crimes against humanity, then I think half of England would cheer his name and perhaps want to elect him to Parliament. I'd sure hail him as a great hero. But he slaughtered young girls like the murderous, low-life coward that he was. (assuming the story is true) So young or not, may he rot in hell, and he'll get no sympathy for me- and shouldn't have people going around mitigating him or his evil crime, IMHO.

  157. @Anon
    There are lots of smart chinese, indians, and jews, and many other people. That doesn't mean we need another hundred million of their fellow countrymen.

    Indeed – or even 5 million for Australia. But, to repeat, quality is the key to which I would add some good reason on the part of smart people to come to my country which means they give in taxes, expertise or enterprise more than any claims they will predictably make for at least 35 years. And of course one wants a mixture: plenty of overseas Chinese and Indians from different backgrounds.

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    No, we don't want "plenty of overseas Chinese and Indians from different backgrounds," regardless of any purported economic benefit or raising of the nation's aggregate IQ. Even if both of these suppositions were true, of which there is considerable doubt, this battle is over retaining bloodlines and culture. If the Chinese and Indians are half as wonderful as you suggest, their homelands should be a veritable paradise from which they should have no burning motivation to exit. And if they're not, then perhaps they need to clean up their own backyards rather than colonize ours. Whether an immigrant is high status or low, the primary beneficiaries of mass immigration are the immigrants themselves, and, excepting a relatively low percentage of elites, not the native host population.
  158. LauraMR says:
    @annamaria
    Your hunch is more likely correct.
    From the Voltaire site: http://www.voltairenet.org/article196455.html
    "Salman Abedi was born in the UK of a family of Libyan immigrants.
    His father Ramadan Abedi is a former officer in [Gaddafi’s] Libyan Intelligence Services. He specialised in the surveillance of the Islamist movement, but two decades later has failed to notice that his son has joined Daesh (IS).
    In 1992, Ramadan Abedi was sent to Libya by Britain’s MI6 and was involved in a British-devised plot to assassinate Muammar Gaddafi. The operation having been readily exposed, he was exfiltrated by MI6 and transferred back to the UK where he obtained political asylum.
    In 1994, Ramadan Abedi returned to Libya under MI6’s direction. In late 1995 he was involved in the creation of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a local branch of Al-Qaeda. Nobody pays attention to the fact that Ramadan Abedi has linked LIFG members to the formation of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and, in 2011, he takes part in MI6’s ‘Arab Spring’ operations, and in LIFG’s role on the ground in support of NATO"

    Also, from The Solari Report: https://solari.com/00archive/web/solarireports/2017/sr20170427_Saker.pdf
    "...having ISIS in power in Damascus would actually be something that the Israelis want. For one thing, it gives them a wonderful pretext to establish a security zone. It could be the Golan Heights or more of the Golan Heights, or even to try to push up to the Litani River. They know that ISIS is a mortal enemy of Hezbollah, so it’s superb. They can hope for a civil war in Lebanon. That can only be achieved if they destabilize Lebanon as with Syria.
    Finally, Assad is the only hope for a unitary Syrian state, which they [Israelis] don’t want."

    There you go.

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  159. Vinteuil says:
    @Bragadocious
    Agree with this. Derb, for all his strengths, still has a schoolboy's view of the British Empire. The Empire did quite a number on India, slaughtering millions. It would be ludicrous to argue that India was in better shape in the 1940s than today. Capitalism has taken root there to an extent that the Brits would never have allowed, and it has lifted many millions out of poverty. The Brits were never interested in spreading free market capitalism. Their goal was to take stuff for themselves and keep the population impoverished and divided.

    “Their goal was to take stuff for themselves and keep the population impoverished and divided.”

    Really? No kidding?

    You mean to tell me that the British, in their days of world empire, were selfish & ethnocentric?

    How odd.

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  160. Druid says:
    @DanCT
    We should be thankful that all these bombers and shooters leave behind what those conspiracy nutcases might call magically indestructible identification so the authorities can go straight to the perp's family and friends. Apparently these imitators hope to outdo the ID that survived 911 among incinerated debris in perfect condition. And we should be doubly thankful that our loyal and patriotic msm have such incredible journalists that they simultaneously uncover the same evidence and reach exactly the same conclusions within minutes of each other.

    I firmly believe 911 was an inside job. I find all these killings atrocious. I am not European and I don’t blame them for not wanting their culture somewhat maintained although I think they could be improved upon. That said, stop killing in the ME and other places. Though this atrocio act is receiving massive media attention, not a few words are spared for the dAily air-bombing deaths of civilian in Syria every single day. This hatred, killing and empire-gone- crazy must stop.

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  161. Vinteuil says:
    @syonredux

    , but I see WWI as the start of the collective suicide of the West.
     
    Things would have probably turned out a lot better if war had not broken out in 1914....At the very least, the Bolshevik Revolution wouldn't have happened....

    On the other hand, nobody here today would be here today were it not for the events of 1914.

    We all of us owe our very existence to a series of unfortunate events.

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  162. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @jilles dykstra
    In 2004 the King of Jordan, the ruling Saud at the time in Saudi Arabia, and Mucharraf in Pakistan all told senator Hollings that the only way to end terrorism was to establish peace between Israel and the Palestinians.
    Since 2004 the west did nothing for peace, on the contrary, efforts to destabilise the ME, and North Africa continued, an were intensified.
    Deradicalisation is making Muslims believe that what they see happening is not happening.
    It may succeed in a few cases, but it so me seems impossible in general.
    So attacks in the west will continue, it is, as Mearsheimer and Walt write 'the strategy of the weak'.
    On top of that, the west needs terrorism, if necessary does it herself, in order to make the western societies more totalitarian all the time 'for our safety'.
    The destabilisation in ME and N Africa causes massive migration, the destabilisation of the European countries is welcome, in order to create an Europe, a USA clone.

    So boko haram will stop kidnapping christian nigerian children and suicide bombing markets if abbas and netanyahu sign a peace agreement ?
    Also ISIS will stop bombing Russians and Pakistani suicide bombings will cease .

    Also Turkey will retreat from occupied Cyprus , Sudan will relinquish occupied Darfur , Morrocco will retreat from occupied Western Sahara and Indonesia will retreat from occupied Papua. Furthermore the King of Jordan will voluntarily relinquish the 78% of mandatory palestine that his minority Hashemite group currently occupies , I presume…..

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  163. Druid says:
    @annamaria
    " You can’t be kind and cruel at the same time."

    The west has never had any desire to bring democracy to the Middle East (that was a normative lying by the bloody Clinton et al). Look at the ongoing romance between western countries and Saudis and Qatari. As for the policies of western countries, they are not necessarily in these countries' interests. For instance, "having ISIS in power in Damascus would actually be something that the Israelis want." This statement is easily supported by public pronouncements of Israeli brass.
    Or this, " the US unleashed ISIS and now can’t control them." The ISIS was actually birthed by the US-created Al Qaeda.
    https://solari.com/00archive/web/solarireports/2017/sr20170427_Saker.pdf

    What else should we expect from a country that lets Condi, Wolfi, and Cheney wander around without a tight supervision, while concocting illegitimate convictions against Assange, a courageous journalist and whistleblower? Condi, Wolfi, and Cheney (and Obama and Hillary) are major war criminals and enemies of humanity at large. Their supposedly humanitarian concerns ("kindness") have been always, and without exception, the profiteering schemes.

    Totally agree. This cabal only seems to be off the stage. Their legacy continues in both parties

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  164. Rurik says: • Website
    @LauraMR
    Kid, for sure, at 22... but I suppose if you are about his age you are simply not capable of understanding this.

    As for "misunderstood victim", not at all, in my opinion. However, please note the "blessing" he has been given by the first commenter, one that probably considers himself "white", whatever that might mean to him, you, or those ranting about "race".

    whatever that might mean to him, you, or those ranting about “race”.

    what was your original [sarcastic] comment?

    white Europeans are superior to all other races so the kid was by virtue of ancestry a lesser, defective human being to begin with…

    oh yea

    and he stopped being a “kid” when he murdered innocent children. And in a nation that had welcomed his parents and schooled him and no doubt gave him every opportunity they could.

    and then how does this “kid” repay the British people for their compassion, kindness and generosity?

    he blows up their children with a horrific device intended to send metal fragments ripping through their little bodies.

    those were kids Laura, not the savage, murderous, hatred-consumed scum who slaughtered them.

    calling him a kid is a way of mitigating his heinous crime and suggesting he’s somehow less culpable because of his age. At 22, this POS knew what he was doing.

    for the record, if he had used his (admittedly young) life to wage war against the satanic fiend that has ravaged the land of his ancestors, then I would applaud him. If he had tracked down Tony Blair, or any other war criminal guilty of atrocities and crimes against humanity, then I think half of England would cheer his name and perhaps want to elect him to Parliament. I’d sure hail him as a great hero. But he slaughtered young girls like the murderous, low-life coward that he was. (assuming the story is true) So young or not, may he rot in hell, and he’ll get no sympathy for me- and shouldn’t have people going around mitigating him or his evil crime, IMHO.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Half the comments about the bombing on all threads are devoted to exonerating the murder because:

    1. The commenters don't approve of the singer
    2. The commenters think murdering 22 innocents in Manchester will somehow harm Israel.
  165. Druid says:
    @Rurik

    Please, please, don’t let this happen here in America.

    There are mighty forces striving to make it happen; but we can still turn the tide, before it becomes blood-dimmed.
     

    why don't you just come out and say it?

    England fought on the wrong side of the war, and the children of England are now suffering the consequences of their grandparent's fatuous and suicidal stupidity. The same groveling stupidity that has the Brits gushing over the hag during her grotesque "Jubilees". (the same rancid hag that presided over the destruction of England)

    Germany was trying to defend herself (and the West) from the depredations of the banking class that had taken over Russia. Hitler (despite his faults) did everything he could to have peace with England, even to the point of allowing the British army to leave at Dunkirk, when he could have prevented it. If England were an honorable nation of honorable men and women, they would have demanded to be Germany's ally in destroying the Bolshevik fiend, rather than acting as the Fiend'$ idiotic stooge, and lining up to destroy their cousins in Germany, and with them, all hope for the future of England (and the West).

    If the British people were an honorable people, they would tell the truth- that Hitler was right to oppose genocidal communism with his last breath, and they were wrong to ally themselves with the Soviet drooling Fiend and destroy Germany out of petty envy.

    Now that the Bolsheviks have been forced out of Russia (by a towering statesman with more integrity in his nutsack than the entire length and breath of the "manhood" of Merrie Olde), England and the West are experiencing just what it's like to be ruled 'by the hair of their heads' outright. (Not even in the shadows anymore).

    "This movement among the Jews is not new... this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."

    ~ Winston Churchill

    how does it feel to have "won" the war, eh?

    as England descends into the abyss of moral rot and spiritual sewage, as British school girls are groomed by ((pop culture)) and used as whores and sex slaves for an invading army of Muslims and Africans, all while the British people cower with soiled knickers at the fear of being called 'a racist'. OOhh nooo! (oops, there goes the knickers again)

    everybody here knows there is only one reason why England and the West have destroyed Libya and are destroying Syria = because of Jews who demanded it

    just as everybody knows there is only one reason why England and the West are being destroyed by massive non-white immigration, because of Jew$ (Rothschild, Soros, et al) who demand it

    duh

    but there isn't one in ten thousand that will mention this simple and obvious truth, which if not addressed, will result in the absolute defilement of your nations and children utterly.

    but they're too cowardly to speak of ((the elephant)) in the living room, "for fear of the Jews"

    True

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  166. This is clear evidence of the IQ/temperament gap between North and South Caucasians. Muslims with their tribal, honour killing culture think they take on the West with violence and win. Yet for every white they kill western soldiers will kill dozens if not hundreds of Muslims with their high tech weaponry. And no they won’t take over the West, the Asians may, but the Muslims will simply make life miserable for working class whites and wealthy whites will be largely unaffected.

    If these Muslim terrorists were smart they wouldn’t focus on killing children, they would focus on hitting weathy whites directly in the pocket. Our FIRE economies could easily be bought to a standstill by infrastructure sabotage and well targeted nuisance behaviour. But that would take cool-headed discipline and intelligence, which most Muslims don’t have.

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    Maybe smart Muslims do understand that with terrorism they're doing exactly what the west wants.
    I consider myself smart, but, if I were a Muslim, what would I do ?
    How does one change the illusions of the majority in the west ?
    Not by disrupting, what does not seem too difficult, daily life in western countries.
    Even Trump may not succeed in changing the course of history.
    After his failed 1934 coup Hitler realised that only by democratic means he could realise his goals.
    One sees what CNN, Washpost and NYT can do, in order to undermine Trump.
    Control of the media is to a large extent control of people's minds.
    Therefore internet censorship began, too dangerous, world wide uncontrolled exchange of ideas.
  167. Bel Riose says:
    @res
    I'm curious, Corvinus, at what point does this aspect of your shtick become incitement to violence?

    Excellent question.

    Corvinus’s shtick consists of:

    (i) never posting an opinion of his own. Notice how he never offers an original comment, but confines himself to commenting on others’ opinions? This is no accident. Corvinus hasn’t the moral courage, much less the intellect, to put forth a viewpoint on this site.

    As an aside, there’s pretty good evidence Corvinus is actually a woman.

    Anyway, back to this clown’s M.O. The second half of his shtick consists of…

    (ii) parsing others’ comments, proffering exceptionally pedantic (and, nearly always, irrelevant) comments and questions, and then demanding that the commenter “prove” his statements.

    Needless to say, this is an intellectually and morally cheap tactic (and thus well suited to someone like Corvinus). A forum like this one isn’t a court of law. Nor is it an academic debate for which the debaters can reasonably be expected to have ready access to citations to prove their statements.

    Yet Corvinus treats it as such. Of course, this is the main reason why he never posts an opinion of his own: the moment he does so, someone will dissect his comment the same way he dissects others’ opinions. They will demand from him the same sort of proof he demands of everyone else.

    And then his shtick will be exposed for what it really is.

    Stumbling across one of Corvinus’s comments is like stepping in a pile of dog excrement: it’s unpleasant, unexpected, and it always leaves a nasty smell afterwards.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Without defending Corvinus or disagreeing with your gemeral assessment I suggest you are being too censorious and restrictive in your criticism of the form or style of his contributions.. Merely for brevity let me put it this way: how would Socrates, in classic Socratic mode, frame his comments?
    , @Corvinus
    "(i) never posting an opinion of his own. Notice how he never offers an original comment, but confines himself to commenting on others’ opinions? This is no accident. Corvinus hasn’t the moral courage, much less the intellect, to put forth a viewpoint on this site."

    Repeatedly I have offered my own position on matters. You're being other than accurate here.

    "As an aside, there’s pretty good evidence Corvinus is actually a woman."

    H0ney, we've been through this already.

    "(ii) parsing others’ comments, proffering exceptionally pedantic (and, nearly always, irrelevant) comments and questions, and then demanding that the commenter “prove” his statements."

    Thank you for your opinion on this matter.

    "Nor is it an academic debate for which the debaters can reasonably be expected to have ready access to citations to prove their statements."

    It's called the Internet. There are a number of sources available to refute a person's remarks.

    "Of course, this is the main reason why he never posts an opinion of his own: the moment he does so, someone will dissect his comment the same way he dissects others’ opinions. They will demand from him the same sort of proof he demands of everyone else."

    Which I consistently provide that evidence when required in the form of links with commentary.

    "Stumbling across one of Corvinus’s comments is like stepping in a pile of dog excrement: it’s unpleasant, unexpected, and it always leaves a nasty smell afterwards."

    Then don't read the arguments I proffer.
  168. Druid says:
    @Art
    Derbyshire’s piece does a good job of skewering the “invite the world” side of the issue, but ignores “invade the world”.

    (Sarcasm on.)

    It seems that identity social politics is working against us – we kill 2 identity folks – then 4 more pop-up. There are only one billion of this identity. We need a way out of this.

    Clearly as the preeminent exceptional nation on the planet, we are entitled to our revenge after 9/11.

    Would it be good if congress (bi-partisan Zionist) were to set a minimum number of Muslim kills and displacements that would assuage and placate our dignity after 9/11?

    In that way, when we reach the minimum, we can be magnanimous and proudly proclaim peace – and go home.

    (Sarcasm off.)

    p.s. Of course that could never happen with the Jews controlling congress.

    911 was an inside job, and Zionists were in the thick of it!

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  169. Bel Riose says:
    @mcohen
    I spoke to a computer the other day and asked him if red herring was kosher.he said as long as it has no marx on it,or white streaks it is kosher.(white streaks come from white mans you know what.)
    I asked him about triangles.are they kosher.he looked at me as if I was nuts.
    I said was salaam,trump,and salman a triangle and he said ask upstairs.I said is it a coincidence that trumps travels and manchester happened on the same day.
    know what.I asked upstairs and I was told to comfort the sick.the injured.when the time is right there will be rolling stones.

    Please write a book of your essays.

    I’ll buy it and read it.

    Then I’ll know what it’s like to snort too much coke, sit down at a keyboard, and start typing!!

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    Bel baby

    Thats nothing.you should read what i wrote on the back of your head while you were sleeping.

    My mind scans the universe in search of words that fall from the sky that only i can see with my eye.
  170. @Alden
    William brought about 10, ooo soldiers to England. About 5,000 of them were Bretons from BrittanyThey were the revanchist descendants of the indegenous Britons who fled England 500AD because of the Saxon takeover. They came back and took back the lands the Saxons took from them.

    See cannot be said about recent arrivals. They are completely allien elements.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Thanks for the info. I had no idea the invaders of 900 years were different from today's invaders
  171. Those European utopias seem to have gotten used to the idea of getting bombed and making sure never to blame the ideology behind the bomber.

    At this rate, it’s going to take ALOT of suicide attacks to give the Brits their balls back. Maybe a few prominent beloved figures here and there and perhaps they will awaken from their plugged in multicultural matrix.

    Maybe.

    In some ways, we must ask ourselves; was this the end root of Europe anyway? Is the current manifestation of Western culture always meant to doom itself and be replaced? I sometimes wonder, “Why the hell are we trying to preserve Europe?” Let it burn and be replaced.

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  172. syonredux says:
    @Anon
    The terrorist bombing was terrible, but the concert was worse.

    It was a celebration of open borders, degeneracy, interracism, slut culture for little girls, and jungle fever. It was all about globalist propaganda for kiddies.

    https://twitter.com/polNewsForever/status/867105300784066561

    British masses seem to welcome this cultural degeneracy and mass invasion by foreigners.
    How ironic that an Islamic terrorist who gained entry into UK via globalism threw a monkey wrench at globalism?

    If Muslims want to bomb every globalist celebration of open borders, degeneracy, Afro-colonization of white wombs, and slut culture for kids, who cares?

    Globalism isn't about respect for world cultures and world histories. It is about spreading mono-culture of Afromania, Homomania, and Ziomania all over the world.

    This is typical:

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/rapper-and-actress-awkwafina-on-being-a-rare-asian-american-in-hollywood

    If Muslims want to attack such degeneracy, they have my blessing.

    And, of course, Muslims do not confine their killing to concert-goers:

    Dozens dead as gunmen attack bus of Coptic Christians in Egypt

    At least 28 people, including many children, were massacred in Egypt on Friday when gunmen ambushed groups of Egyptian Christians traveling along a desert road towards a remote monastery.

    The killers lay in wait in the desert outside the city of Minya and slaughtered the occupants of at three different vehicles as they drove towards the monastery of St Samuel the Confessor.

    The masked gunmen sprayed bullets into a minibus carrying children from a church group, killing at least six of them, according to Egyptian media. Christian activists said the attackers also boarded a bus and killed the men before robbing the women of their jewelry and phones and leaving Islamist leaflets among the bodies.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/dozens-dead-gunmen-attack-bus-coptic-christians-egypt/

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    • Replies: @Anon
    There was an election in Egypt. Muslim Brotherhood came to power.

    But military government killed 1000s and retook power.

    It's a violent place.

    Also, remember what Israel did in Gaza? Israel continues to steal land in West Bank.

    Israel also treated ISIS fighters and is now allied with Saudi Arabia.
    In 80s, Israel's #1 ally(apart from US) was South Africa. Now, it's rotten Saudi Arabia.

    Also, Muslims didn't desecrate marriage in the West. Jewish-Homo power did. That is HUGE. It's like wiping feces on treasure.

    The fact that the West didn't use ultra-violence to stop the desecration of marriage goes to show the West is sicker than Islam.

    And a Christianity that can't even say NO to 'gay marriage' is garbage.

    And Jews retook the Holy Land for what? To turn it into Sodom and Gomorrah with homo parades?

    As for violence, look at US wars. US took out Libya and let crazies run loose. US worked with Saudis and Turks to ruin Syria.
    , @jilles dykstra
    Here, as with the attacks in Europe, the why is never discussed.
    Do not know very much about Egypt, but do know how the Egyptian military, dependent on the USA, removed the democratically elected Muslim president.
    I wonder if the Copts are seen as collaborators with the military government, a puppet government of the USA.
  173. KenH says:
    @biz
    What about the ongoing Islamist terror campaigns in southern Thailand and the Philippines, directed largely at Buddhists and tribal villagers? How about the slow motion genocide of Melanesians in Irian Jaya at the hands of Indonesian Muslims? Al Shabab slaughtering black Kenyans in a mall? Are your 'zio-natos' responsible for those too?

    That’s only because the Buddhists have bombed and invaded several Muslim nations. I’m just not certain of which ones. You must understand that Muslims are religion of peace people and only strike when their nations are bombed and invaded. If not for that they are essentially Gandhi like.

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  174. Art says:
    @JoaoAlfaiate
    Last time I looked although Uncle Sam, NATO, etc., etc. have been in Afghanistan since 2002 the Taliban have not been defeated, quite the contrary.

    We invaded that "cesspool" called Iraq and brought a pro Iran gov't to power and an insurgency called ISIS. Lots of Iraqis and Syrians on the run. We removed Gaddafi and got lots of refugees plus a failed state. One could argue if you destroy a state you have a responsibility to clean up the mess you have made, including taking in some of the refugees you created. "If you break it, you own it."

    It seems to me US military intervention has been a failure; we have lost every war. I keep wondering why Trump put so many failed US military "leaders" on the payroll in jobs like National Security Advisor, etc.

    It seems to me US military intervention has been a failure; we have lost every war.

    Nice accurate comment but no “Jew” word is used.

    You cannot talk honestly about America’s direction in the last 50 years – culturally, economically, or military – without using the Jew word in a negative way.

    It has to be faced – or NOTHING good will happen – end of story.

    Peace — Art

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  175. It already has happened here, at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando. Or is Florida already another country?

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  176. Daniel H says:
    @syonredux
    RE: " absimilation,"

    I favor the Eddie Rickenbacker test. When the USA declared war on Germany in 1917, Rickenbacker, the son of Swiss-German immigrants, didn't go "Pan-German" and blow up a crowd of Americans. No, he enlisted in the army and fought the Germans in the air as a pilot:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker

    This Libyan fellow failed the test.

    Herman Goering’s nephew enlisted in the US Army Air force and bombed the s**t out of Germany, and did it with gusto. I think his only requested deferral was to not have to bomb either Cologne or Hamburg, because that is where his grandmother was from.

    William Patrick Hitler, Adolph Hitler’s half Irish nephew enlisted in the US Navy after personally pleading to F.D.R that he be permitted the honor of serving. He served with distinction.

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    • Replies: @Uebersetzer
    There were service people in the Third Reich with some Jewish ancestry, sometimes as much as half-Jewish, who served all the more devotedly, precisely because of that. A kind of psychological overcompensation, perhaps the need to prove themselves, etc.
    I don't know to what extent this is based on historical events concerning the real character, but Liebgott in the HBO TV series Band Of Brothers was so devoted to killing Nazis that people assumed he was Jewish. In fact he was descended from ethnic Germans in Romania, Hungary or Yugoslavia and there were people of similar background to him in the Waffen-SS. It is as though he was compensating for being an ethnic German in an American unit.
  177. Alden says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    See cannot be said about recent arrivals. They are completely allien elements.

    Thanks for the info. I had no idea the invaders of 900 years were different from today’s invaders

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    You contradict yourself. You stated half of William forces consisted of decendants of people who once fled from Britain during Anglo Saxon invasion. In this case it is different from now. Arabs and other Muslims never lived in Britain. They also did not win the battle but came like beggars and refugees.
  178. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    whatever that might mean to him, you, or those ranting about “race”.
     
    what was your original [sarcastic] comment?

    white Europeans are superior to all other races so the kid was by virtue of ancestry a lesser, defective human being to begin with…
     
    oh yea

    and he stopped being a "kid" when he murdered innocent children. And in a nation that had welcomed his parents and schooled him and no doubt gave him every opportunity they could.

    and then how does this "kid" repay the British people for their compassion, kindness and generosity?

    he blows up their children with a horrific device intended to send metal fragments ripping through their little bodies.

    those were kids Laura, not the savage, murderous, hatred-consumed scum who slaughtered them.

    calling him a kid is a way of mitigating his heinous crime and suggesting he's somehow less culpable because of his age. At 22, this POS knew what he was doing.

    for the record, if he had used his (admittedly young) life to wage war against the satanic fiend that has ravaged the land of his ancestors, then I would applaud him. If he had tracked down Tony Blair, or any other war criminal guilty of atrocities and crimes against humanity, then I think half of England would cheer his name and perhaps want to elect him to Parliament. I'd sure hail him as a great hero. But he slaughtered young girls like the murderous, low-life coward that he was. (assuming the story is true) So young or not, may he rot in hell, and he'll get no sympathy for me- and shouldn't have people going around mitigating him or his evil crime, IMHO.

    Half the comments about the bombing on all threads are devoted to exonerating the murder because:

    1. The commenters don’t approve of the singer
    2. The commenters think murdering 22 innocents in Manchester will somehow harm Israel.

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  179. Alden says:
    @DanCT
    We should be thankful that all these bombers and shooters leave behind what those conspiracy nutcases might call magically indestructible identification so the authorities can go straight to the perp's family and friends. Apparently these imitators hope to outdo the ID that survived 911 among incinerated debris in perfect condition. And we should be doubly thankful that our loyal and patriotic msm have such incredible journalists that they simultaneously uncover the same evidence and reach exactly the same conclusions within minutes of each other.

    I too find it hard to believe a bank card in a pocket survived the blast. Pockets are around the chest, waist and hips, very close to the blast of a back pack bomb.

    A bank card tucked in a shoe I could believe. But not in a pocket inches from the backpack.

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  180. Jaime says:
    @syonredux
    RE: " absimilation,"

    I favor the Eddie Rickenbacker test. When the USA declared war on Germany in 1917, Rickenbacker, the son of Swiss-German immigrants, didn't go "Pan-German" and blow up a crowd of Americans. No, he enlisted in the army and fought the Germans in the air as a pilot:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker

    This Libyan fellow failed the test.

    Well, Americans were not in Germany bombing the place to smitherens before the war. It is funny how the author thinks -as most westerners do- that history began last Monday. Very conveniently he forgets the long history of criminal enterprises called colonialism -something England excelled at. It is no doubt unfortunate the innocent -especially children- have to pay the consequences of some countries’ crimninal actions, but so many children die every day in the Middle East as a result of western bombs and nobody bats an eye. These children’s lives are also valuable, at least for those in the fringes of the Empire.

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  181. rw95 says:
    @fitzGetty
    Wrong.
    Look at, for instance, poor little Trinidad & Tobago -- far along the path to moslem majority rule and sharia and all the rest ... 3% can be absorbed - nothing more .

    What the fuck are you talking about?

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    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/02/17/ap-trinidad-tobago-largest-per-capita-source-islamic-state-recruits-western-hemisphere/
    Up to 125 jihadists and their relatives have traveled from the Caribbean island nation of Trinidad and Tobago to join the Islamic State (IS) in the Middle East, making the country “the largest per-capita source” of recruits for the jihadist group in the Western Hemisphere, reports the Associated Press (AP).
    ISIS has disseminated propaganda videos and magazines featuring jihadists with Trinidadian accents training in the desert, killing some of the group’s enemies, and encouraging their compatriots to join them.

    A Caribbean island nation has become an unlikely source of fighters and funding for the Islamic State militant group, prompting an internationally backed effort to stem the flow of money and recruits to Syria and Iraq.

  182. Alden says:
    @Rurik

    What have you, anon and all the pervert wankers ever done but roam the Internet looking for black/ White porn?
     
    you doth protest too much, methinks

    I don’t believe any White or other race man I know has ever mentioned Kobe Bryant to me.
     
    I knew a few. Back when it happened, they were saying the victim was nothing but a gold-digging whore who had went to his room. "what did she expect to happen?'

    and so forth.

    You don't have to know sports fans to understand that Kobe was lionized as a great hero afterwards and roll model. Like I said, his posters were on shoe stores all over America.

    don’t “deliver their daughters wombs” to black men.
     
    that's just Priss's hyperbolic style. He doesn't mean that literally.

    but if his point is that England is encouraging the breeding away of its vile, racist, white genes by importing non-whites and promoting miscegenation

    (that looks to me like a British style of architecture in the background)

    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/poolside.jpg?w=620&h=465

    perhaps the father/photographer's daughter is on the left with the fellow flipping the bird

    (you don't have to click on it if you're too scared. I post it for the general edification of all ; )

    here's the (Jewish) former president of France explaining that if the French don't race mix willingly, they'll have to be forced to by the state.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDaKFE_J_ug

    here's a German politician cheering on the same thing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pk2UMqqyfY

    this has nothing to do with your porn obsession. Rather it has to do with the genocidal hatred being directed at the people of the West, and often times most vociferously from certain types of people from inside the West who, like the German politician and others, (gays, Jews, radical feminists, minorities of all stripes and colors who can not be blamed for wanting to feast on the dying carcass of the Western world).

    What happened in Rotherham has nothing to do with porn. OK. At least I hope not. But rather the issue of the sickness of the West and their cowardice in the face of political correctness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQNUJlJaN7c

    Once more my question. Why do you spend so much time on the internet looking at black rapists you pervert?
     
    what kind of asshole makes a completely spurious charge like that?

    This is supposed to be a site where respectable people discuss politics and current events, not a place where perverted wankers post their porn fantasies.
     
    do us all a favor and take your own advise

    All you can write about is Whites having sex with black and brown men and having their babies.

    I put black rapists in prison for 20 years. All you do is post links and rant away about other people’s sex lives.
    Your friends claimed Kobe Bryant’s victim was a gold digger. My friends didn’t speak to me about it.

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    All you can write about is Whites having sex with black and brown men and having their babies.
     
    well, now that takes the cake for the most inane, idiotic, and pathetically ludicrous thing I've read here. And believe me when I tell you, that's saying a lot!

    Your friends claimed Kobe Bryant’s victim was a gold digger. My friends didn’t speak to me about it.
     
    the point isn't your friends or my friends. If you and your buddies have their heads in the sand vis-a-vis current events, and didn't notice things like the OJ trial or Kobe's rape confession or have never heard of Travon (let alone having an opinion about them), then what can I say, I'm jealous. But the point is (and this is for people capable of logic and reason) what Derbyshire is pointing out is that the West is losing its very will to survive as the West. And the very salient point that Priss is making- even if he does invoke 'Negromania' and so forth, is that they colonize the minds of your people and especially children with their insidious propaganda and spiritual sewage because they want to see our way of life destroyed- utterly- right down to our DNA. K?

    That is the point. Not machismo posturing about how many blacks you put in prison, or how your buddies are too benighted to have ever heard of the Kobe Bryant rape case. And even so, it isn't about Kobe, it's about how they spin the thing and turn a rapist into a hero because he's a black athlete and what the hell, he only raped a white whore [redundant] anyways- who should have known better than to go to his room- so she got what she deserved, at least as far as society is concerned. (almost no one that I'm aware of had any sympathy for her, certainly not publically- just like all the other tens of thousands of white victims of the epidemic of black and brown rape- and not just in the US, but in places like Sweden or Austria, where the rape of a ten year old boy is excused by their supreme court because his rapist was a darker-skinned minority)

    I know that's all very much over your head, and you'll no doubt rejoinder with some sewer talk of porn, or some other idiocy, but I'm more or less writing for the lurkers anyways, and also, when you're not dragging the tone of the place down with your course vulgarities, you occasionally make a salient point. Leave the vulgarities to Priss, his rants reek of them but there are gems there if you're adult enough to sift though the chafe.
  183. @Swing
    And the bombing of Libya has nothing to do with it. Stop killing Muslims, and they will stop killing u. U killmy brother, I kill yours, u kill my kids I kill yours, simple logic.

    The West ostensibly bombed Libya to prevent Gadaffi from de-radicalising some Islamist hooligans in Benghazi.

    Of course, that was stupid. But the bomber was one of those Islamists, not a Gadaffi supporter.

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    The west destroyed Ghadaffi because he was a leader with success.
  184. mcohen says:
    @Bel Riose
    Please write a book of your essays.

    I'll buy it and read it.

    Then I'll know what it's like to snort too much coke, sit down at a keyboard, and start typing!!

    Bel baby

    Thats nothing.you should read what i wrote on the back of your head while you were sleeping.

    My mind scans the universe in search of words that fall from the sky that only i can see with my eye.

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    • Replies: @Bel Riose
    Are any of them written by Corvinus?

    Christ will I be worried if the answer is "yes".....
  185. Cyrano says:

    Diversity is our strength. I feel sorry for the Chinese. I really do. 1.5 billion of them, almost all the same. Nothing but weakness there. To be honest with you, I don’t think they’ll make it past this year. What is wrong with those people? Why can’t they learn from the west? You don’t have to be original, just copy the most brilliant idea the west has ever come up with. How complicated is that?

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    • Replies: @rw95
    The Chinese are not as homogeneous as we like to think.
  186. rw95 says:
    @Anon
    Exactly what I thought. Justify the murder of people because you oppose the ways they express themselves culturally.

    LOL. The murder was committed by someone made possible by globalism. Globalism destoyed the Middle East and let in angry refugees and Muslims. Globalism calls for sexual imperialism and conquest of white wombs by Africans. Globalism calls for turning white females into sluts and sex meat for non-white men from earliest age possible. This isn't mere 'cultural expression'. It is culture war as tool of globalists to turn white females into race traitors and horizontal collaborators of the enemy.

    Pop culture is no longer just entertainment. It is a propaganda tool used by globalists to destroy nationalism and racial preservation. It is a terrorism on the soul and mind.

    Globalism murdered tons of Muslims in the Middle East. It then brings those Muslims to the West and turns them onto black thug culture and the PC of anti-whiteness. PC defends both Sharia and whore culture. it makes NO sense and is animated by destructive agenda against the West.

    Globalists brought this mess onto themselves. What is pathetic is that white minds have been sop colonized by the glob virus that they send their kids to concerts to be turned into sluts whose wombs are to be offered to Africans. Cuck Britain.

    And YOU are a race traitor.

    “YOU are a race traitor.”

    Shall we not talk about the man who wrote this article? A man married to a Chinese woman and who has half-Chinese children?

    If you want to talk about “race treason,” the Derb fits that category pretty well, wouldn’t you say?

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  187. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux
    And, of course, Muslims do not confine their killing to concert-goers:


    Dozens dead as gunmen attack bus of Coptic Christians in Egypt

    At least 28 people, including many children, were massacred in Egypt on Friday when gunmen ambushed groups of Egyptian Christians traveling along a desert road towards a remote monastery.

    The killers lay in wait in the desert outside the city of Minya and slaughtered the occupants of at three different vehicles as they drove towards the monastery of St Samuel the Confessor.

    The masked gunmen sprayed bullets into a minibus carrying children from a church group, killing at least six of them, according to Egyptian media. Christian activists said the attackers also boarded a bus and killed the men before robbing the women of their jewelry and phones and leaving Islamist leaflets among the bodies.

     

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/dozens-dead-gunmen-attack-bus-coptic-christians-egypt/

    There was an election in Egypt. Muslim Brotherhood came to power.

    But military government killed 1000s and retook power.

    It’s a violent place.

    Also, remember what Israel did in Gaza? Israel continues to steal land in West Bank.

    Israel also treated ISIS fighters and is now allied with Saudi Arabia.
    In 80s, Israel’s #1 ally(apart from US) was South Africa. Now, it’s rotten Saudi Arabia.

    Also, Muslims didn’t desecrate marriage in the West. Jewish-Homo power did. That is HUGE. It’s like wiping feces on treasure.

    The fact that the West didn’t use ultra-violence to stop the desecration of marriage goes to show the West is sicker than Islam.

    And a Christianity that can’t even say NO to ‘gay marriage’ is garbage.

    And Jews retook the Holy Land for what? To turn it into Sodom and Gomorrah with homo parades?

    As for violence, look at US wars. US took out Libya and let crazies run loose. US worked with Saudis and Turks to ruin Syria.

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    You are kinda obsessed with gays. Anyway ,like with the opiod crisis neither Jews nor gays forced it on you. You and your ilk were free to do as you choose. A good portion chose drugs and homomania. Your problem is being easily fooled by propoganda and marketing. You can pump non stop celeb endorsements and peer pressure for homomania at me 24/7. Still wont be inclined to want it. You can fill my swimming pool with oxycontin pills. Still wont want to pop em.
  188. nsa says:

    181 comments and no one has mentioned that the architect of the present “muzzie madness” croaked today. Yup, Ziggie Brzezinski along with the airhead Jimmie Carter decided it would be a good idea to arm the islamist vermin so as to overthrow the Afghan secular socialist government supported by the Russkies. That was in the late 1970s and the Joohadis have been running amuck ever since….armed by the west, and directed by the vile Izzies and the even more vile Saud goat herders, the Joohadis look to be unstoppable.

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    • Replies: @anon
    Ayattolah Khomaini was going to be a real liberal reformer. And he had the eyes and the gait of a gazelle . Just don't eat any goat meat that he offers you.
  189. @Wizard of Oz
    Indeed - or even 5 million for Australia. But, to repeat, quality is the key to which I would add some good reason on the part of smart people to come to my country which means they give in taxes, expertise or enterprise more than any claims they will predictably make for at least 35 years. And of course one wants a mixture: plenty of overseas Chinese and Indians from different backgrounds.

    No, we don’t want “plenty of overseas Chinese and Indians from different backgrounds,” regardless of any purported economic benefit or raising of the nation’s aggregate IQ. Even if both of these suppositions were true, of which there is considerable doubt, this battle is over retaining bloodlines and culture. If the Chinese and Indians are half as wonderful as you suggest, their homelands should be a veritable paradise from which they should have no burning motivation to exit. And if they’re not, then perhaps they need to clean up their own backyards rather than colonize ours. Whether an immigrant is high status or low, the primary beneficiaries of mass immigration are the immigrants themselves, and, excepting a relatively low percentage of elites, not the native host population.

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    You are setting up an Aunt Sally. Of course I'm not saying Chinese or indians en masse or selected at random are wonderful. I do assert that it would be easy to find 50,000 Indians or Chinese whose cognitive abilities were 0.5 sds above the European average, or more, and that, if they chose to come to Australia, it doesn't reflect their low chance of making their own countries (which could be Malaysia or Indonesia) much better to live in, but does suggest that they like what we have and are ready to assimilate. My mention of "different backgrounds" was meant to emphasise the importance of avoiding large cohesive minorities.
  190. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @lavoisier
    Yes they are brain dead degenerates slutting around for money. But that does not mean they deserve to be blown up and dismembered by Muslim fanatics with a fetish for explosives .

    My God man get a grip.

    Imagine it’s WWII. UK is at war with Nazi Germany but Brits are having a pro-Nazi rally. Suppose an anarcho-fascist blows up the rally. Would you care?

    These people were killed by what they celebrate. Why would we care?

    They are for open borders. They are for globalism, a force that destroyed stability in the Middle East and then welcomed ‘refugees’. They are for Invade/Invite.

    Okay, they are dumb and don’t know what is going on. But one thing for sure, they are infected with anti-white hate, and they would denounce any white nationalist as ‘racist-fascist’ and would report him to the authorities to be arrested.

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    Traitorous yes.

    Worthy of contempt yes.

    Deserve to be murdered no.
  191. Bel Riose says:
    @mcohen
    Bel baby

    Thats nothing.you should read what i wrote on the back of your head while you were sleeping.

    My mind scans the universe in search of words that fall from the sky that only i can see with my eye.

    Are any of them written by Corvinus?

    Christ will I be worried if the answer is “yes”…..

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  192. @white Lightning
    No, we don't want "plenty of overseas Chinese and Indians from different backgrounds," regardless of any purported economic benefit or raising of the nation's aggregate IQ. Even if both of these suppositions were true, of which there is considerable doubt, this battle is over retaining bloodlines and culture. If the Chinese and Indians are half as wonderful as you suggest, their homelands should be a veritable paradise from which they should have no burning motivation to exit. And if they're not, then perhaps they need to clean up their own backyards rather than colonize ours. Whether an immigrant is high status or low, the primary beneficiaries of mass immigration are the immigrants themselves, and, excepting a relatively low percentage of elites, not the native host population.

    You are setting up an Aunt Sally. Of course I’m not saying Chinese or indians en masse or selected at random are wonderful. I do assert that it would be easy to find 50,000 Indians or Chinese whose cognitive abilities were 0.5 sds above the European average, or more, and that, if they chose to come to Australia, it doesn’t reflect their low chance of making their own countries (which could be Malaysia or Indonesia) much better to live in, but does suggest that they like what we have and are ready to assimilate. My mention of “different backgrounds” was meant to emphasise the importance of avoiding large cohesive minorities.

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    • Replies: @White Lightning
    I'm not sure what an Aunt Sally is, but is there a type of relative that means not addressing the central point, i.e. that no immigration system is positive for the host population if the net result is displacement of said host population. You just restated that it should be easy to find a significant number of Chinese or Indians with an IQ exceeding the mean in White nations. I'm not disputing that. What I am asserting is that it has nothing to do with whether or not the host population experiences a net benefit. A large influx consisting entirely of high IQ immigrants hardly benefits the White middle class. In your second sentence, the one after you wrongly accuse me of insulting your Aunt Sally, you reject admitting any type of immigrant en masse. You used the word "plenty" in your previous comment, so unless you're taking great liberties as your own lexicographer, you do favor admission of a large number of high IQ immigrants. And yeah, it's pretty clear they like what we have, but their increasing visibility as SJWs raises questions about their desire to assimilate. And besides, so what if they like what we have. It doesn't mean they have a right to it.
    , @sb
    Re Asian immigration to Australia
    Check out selective state high schools and undergraduate medical and dental schools in Australia .

    They have all become majority Asian -in fact majority ethnic Chinese .
    Why ? Because not only are the students bright and motivated but are very well coached for the entry exams . Old stock Aussie students just don't do the intensive coaching .
    Of course you could say ,and posssibly rightly so, that most bright Old Stock Aussie kids go private -which is pretty true
    ( Perhaps I should advise folks here that about a third of Aussie students are in private -mainly Catholic - schools . Australia is a very middle class society and middle class people are generally brighter , more educated ,have more disposable money ,have a preference for traditional full on academic education with extras etc )
    Selective high schools give a private school standard education for free . Asians ,even wealthy ones, love the free stuff that Western countries provide
    Furthermore I am advised by a Med school academic that while Asians are very able at getting entrance to elite courses on high school results , they do rather come back to the field when looking at undergraduate performance

    This is all a bit of a ramble but what I'm saying is that Asians are raised to be terribly competitive in a dog eat dog culture -while Old stock Aussies are largely the polar opposite - and that there is an industry enabling this
    We should remember that professional training is there to serve the whole community and not simply to be a reward for clever dicks gaming the system .For instance we need country kids from sleepy bush high schools to become doctors and dentists because country kids want to live in the country and urban Asian kids don't .

    To give a non race similar story I understand that Veterinary courses are extremely female dominated and rural animal industries can't find enough vets to service them as mainly males choose this kind of work . Is this a good thing ?
  193. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @nsa
    181 comments and no one has mentioned that the architect of the present "muzzie madness" croaked today. Yup, Ziggie Brzezinski along with the airhead Jimmie Carter decided it would be a good idea to arm the islamist vermin so as to overthrow the Afghan secular socialist government supported by the Russkies. That was in the late 1970s and the Joohadis have been running amuck ever since....armed by the west, and directed by the vile Izzies and the even more vile Saud goat herders, the Joohadis look to be unstoppable.

    Ayattolah Khomaini was going to be a real liberal reformer. And he had the eyes and the gait of a gazelle . Just don’t eat any goat meat that he offers you.

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  194. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    There was an election in Egypt. Muslim Brotherhood came to power.

    But military government killed 1000s and retook power.

    It's a violent place.

    Also, remember what Israel did in Gaza? Israel continues to steal land in West Bank.

    Israel also treated ISIS fighters and is now allied with Saudi Arabia.
    In 80s, Israel's #1 ally(apart from US) was South Africa. Now, it's rotten Saudi Arabia.

    Also, Muslims didn't desecrate marriage in the West. Jewish-Homo power did. That is HUGE. It's like wiping feces on treasure.

    The fact that the West didn't use ultra-violence to stop the desecration of marriage goes to show the West is sicker than Islam.

    And a Christianity that can't even say NO to 'gay marriage' is garbage.

    And Jews retook the Holy Land for what? To turn it into Sodom and Gomorrah with homo parades?

    As for violence, look at US wars. US took out Libya and let crazies run loose. US worked with Saudis and Turks to ruin Syria.

    You are kinda obsessed with gays. Anyway ,like with the opiod crisis neither Jews nor gays forced it on you. You and your ilk were free to do as you choose. A good portion chose drugs and homomania. Your problem is being easily fooled by propoganda and marketing. You can pump non stop celeb endorsements and peer pressure for homomania at me 24/7. Still wont be inclined to want it. You can fill my swimming pool with oxycontin pills. Still wont want to pop em.

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    You can pump non stop celeb endorsements and peer pressure for homomania at me 24/7. Still wont be inclined to want it.
     
    it isn't about you, dumbass

    it's about the kids, who're increasingly zombified and alienated and full of SJW soul-poison

    no one cares about some cynical adult running cover for the PTB and their agenda

    only a complete tool could look at what's been happening to England and dismiss it all as a few weak-minded sheep harmlessly grazing on hemlock. If you care about the future of your civilization and its people, you'd be alarmed at the moral excrement ((they're)) injecting into the souls of your young children. Duh

    , @Anon
    It is homo POWER that I'm 'obsessed' with.


    Homos being homo isn't my business and I ignored it all my life.

    But with power, homos are promoting and enforcing homosexuality as something wonderful, noble, and holy.

    While whites must be faulted for drug use and homomania, we must also blame the pushers.

    Pushers push the drugs on people who become junkies addicted to garbage.
  195. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Allowing Muslims to live in western lands is suicide.

    NOTHING ELSE.

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    But what makes whites allow Muslims into the West?

    It's because their minds are infected with the GLOB virus.

    The mind is colonized before it allows the body to be colonized.

    So, focusing on Muslims misses the point.
    We need to focus on the mind-infection that makes whites allow Muslim invasion and also Afro-Colonization of White Wombs.
  196. @Wizard of Oz
    You are setting up an Aunt Sally. Of course I'm not saying Chinese or indians en masse or selected at random are wonderful. I do assert that it would be easy to find 50,000 Indians or Chinese whose cognitive abilities were 0.5 sds above the European average, or more, and that, if they chose to come to Australia, it doesn't reflect their low chance of making their own countries (which could be Malaysia or Indonesia) much better to live in, but does suggest that they like what we have and are ready to assimilate. My mention of "different backgrounds" was meant to emphasise the importance of avoiding large cohesive minorities.

    I’m not sure what an Aunt Sally is, but is there a type of relative that means not addressing the central point, i.e. that no immigration system is positive for the host population if the net result is displacement of said host population. You just restated that it should be easy to find a significant number of Chinese or Indians with an IQ exceeding the mean in White nations. I’m not disputing that. What I am asserting is that it has nothing to do with whether or not the host population experiences a net benefit. A large influx consisting entirely of high IQ immigrants hardly benefits the White middle class. In your second sentence, the one after you wrongly accuse me of insulting your Aunt Sally, you reject admitting any type of immigrant en masse. You used the word “plenty” in your previous comment, so unless you’re taking great liberties as your own lexicographer, you do favor admission of a large number of high IQ immigrants. And yeah, it’s pretty clear they like what we have, but their increasing visibility as SJWs raises questions about their desire to assimilate. And besides, so what if they like what we have. It doesn’t mean they have a right to it.

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    I wondered whether I should have said "straw man" instead of Aunt Sally. That's what I meant. I'm surprised that you were so sure I must have been thinking of mass immigration. In case I have not made it clear let me make it clear now: i think lots of small minorities with a mainstream majority is the way to avoid trouble. Not that being a small minority was enough to save German Jews but I think it is pretty clear that having 2 per per cent mainland Chinese 2 per cent overseas Chinese, 1 per cent Indian Diaspora and 3 per cent educated Indians of mixed castes and lsnguage groups plus 1 per cent mixed Sri Lankans (Tamil, Burgher, Sinhalese, is a mixture which makes sure none of them think they can reshape the host country. That last point is THE point to my mind.

    Given that less than half of existing Australians are net contributors to public revenues and native white Australian are breeding dysgenically it's pretty clear that slmost everyone benefits from the right kind of immigration. (The exceptions, such as those who don't get into medical school because bright hardworking immigrants get better marks, are statistically negligible). Another current source of benefit is the foreign money coming with immigrants to build houses and flats. It's only a net benefit of course because house prices are msking it hard for the young to buy where they want to.

    , @Rurik
    well said

    wiz is a notorious ((troll)) btw
  197. sb says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    You are setting up an Aunt Sally. Of course I'm not saying Chinese or indians en masse or selected at random are wonderful. I do assert that it would be easy to find 50,000 Indians or Chinese whose cognitive abilities were 0.5 sds above the European average, or more, and that, if they chose to come to Australia, it doesn't reflect their low chance of making their own countries (which could be Malaysia or Indonesia) much better to live in, but does suggest that they like what we have and are ready to assimilate. My mention of "different backgrounds" was meant to emphasise the importance of avoiding large cohesive minorities.

    Re Asian immigration to Australia
    Check out selective state high schools and undergraduate medical and dental schools in Australia .

    They have all become majority Asian -in fact majority ethnic Chinese .
    Why ? Because not only are the students bright and motivated but are very well coached for the entry exams . Old stock Aussie students just don’t do the intensive coaching .
    Of course you could say ,and posssibly rightly so, that most bright Old Stock Aussie kids go private -which is pretty true
    ( Perhaps I should advise folks here that about a third of Aussie students are in private -mainly Catholic – schools . Australia is a very middle class society and middle class people are generally brighter , more educated ,have more disposable money ,have a preference for traditional full on academic education with extras etc )
    Selective high schools give a private school standard education for free . Asians ,even wealthy ones, love the free stuff that Western countries provide
    Furthermore I am advised by a Med school academic that while Asians are very able at getting entrance to elite courses on high school results , they do rather come back to the field when looking at undergraduate performance

    This is all a bit of a ramble but what I’m saying is that Asians are raised to be terribly competitive in a dog eat dog culture -while Old stock Aussies are largely the polar opposite – and that there is an industry enabling this
    We should remember that professional training is there to serve the whole community and not simply to be a reward for clever dicks gaming the system .For instance we need country kids from sleepy bush high schools to become doctors and dentists because country kids want to live in the country and urban Asian kids don’t .

    To give a non race similar story I understand that Veterinary courses are extremely female dominated and rural animal industries can’t find enough vets to service them as mainly males choose this kind of work . Is this a good thing ?

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    The only priblem I see in what you mention that I see as worth trying to ameliorate is possibly getting s suboptimal mefical worforce by strict selection on exam results which can be coached and crammed for. I remember reading of one medical school broadening its admissions critetia. Now maybe I know why. My impression is BTW that the laid bsck old Aussie way is going out, at least in professional and upper middle class families. So far i hsve heard family talking of tutors for maths, French, Spanish and Chinese...
  198. @syonredux
    And, of course, Muslims do not confine their killing to concert-goers:


    Dozens dead as gunmen attack bus of Coptic Christians in Egypt

    At least 28 people, including many children, were massacred in Egypt on Friday when gunmen ambushed groups of Egyptian Christians traveling along a desert road towards a remote monastery.

    The killers lay in wait in the desert outside the city of Minya and slaughtered the occupants of at three different vehicles as they drove towards the monastery of St Samuel the Confessor.

    The masked gunmen sprayed bullets into a minibus carrying children from a church group, killing at least six of them, according to Egyptian media. Christian activists said the attackers also boarded a bus and killed the men before robbing the women of their jewelry and phones and leaving Islamist leaflets among the bodies.

     

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/dozens-dead-gunmen-attack-bus-coptic-christians-egypt/

    Here, as with the attacks in Europe, the why is never discussed.
    Do not know very much about Egypt, but do know how the Egyptian military, dependent on the USA, removed the democratically elected Muslim president.
    I wonder if the Copts are seen as collaborators with the military government, a puppet government of the USA.

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    The Copts are seen as Dhimmi, a word that means, protected in Arabic. According to the Koran, they are supposed to be allowed certain freedoms, but are to be kept in an inferior state. Not allowed to wear any kind of religious medal or garb, not allowed to build new Churches or evangelize, and if memory serves, they are to pay a special tax, must step to the side when a Muslim passes and can't build a building higher than a Muslim building. The zealots who are represented by ISIS and Al Quaeda are in violation of the Koran when they murder Christians or Jews. The horrific murder of the Copts recently, had nothing to do with Coptic support of the military government, it's simply what these insane zealots do.
    , @Alden
    The Copts are not seen as part of any faction, either pro or anti government. All they are doing is trying to survive.
    , @Avery
    {I wonder if the Copts are seen as collaborators with the military government, a puppet government of the USA.}

    You clearly know little about Egypt or Copts.
    As soon as the Muslim Brotherhood won the election, and Morsi took power, the oppression and terrorizing of Copts intensified. Under Mubarak there was some protection of the indigenous Copts. But as soon as Islamists took power, restraints came off.

    Copts are being attacked because they are Christians.
    No other reason.
    They have been under attack since Day 1, when Muslim Arab hordes invaded Egypt and over centuries displaced the indigenous Copts, who are now an oppressed minority in their own land.

  199. What is the argument ?
    As if anyone at the time, except the main players, Roosevelt, Churchill, Stalin and Hitler, understood what was going on ?
    Peter H. Nicoll, ´Englands Krieg gegen Deutschland, Ursachen, Methoden und Folgen des Zweiten Weltkriegs’, 1963, 2001, Tübingen ( Britain’s Blunder, 1953)
    Nicoll lost both his sons as RAF crews bombing Germany.
    He writes ‘perhaps good that they died, they never realised what they were doing’.

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  200. @Sergey Krieger
    Comparing Norman conquest of Britain to a what is going now is a nonsense. Normans defeated Anglo Saxon at Hastings and took over through the force of arms. Muslims are miserable weak strangers who are having their way only thanks to lack of will power and feeling of guilt. The whole problem can be resolved within relatively short time giving will and sense of self preservation which Western societies completely lost. Elites that are being constantly elected is just a reflection of this sorry state of affairs. The elephant in the room is demography. All of developed capitalistic countries reached such level of capitalism development that they basically cannot even reproduce at replacement level. It is too damn expensive to have kids and people seem to lose basic instinct. This is the main reason that alliens are being imported to make up for falling original population. Bringing back at least for a start some sense of self preservation and starting mistreating those strangers , I mean really mistreating them, would be a good start on a way to survival. People who would start this would not be satisfied with current state of affairs at the top. So far, western public behaves like sheep taken to a slaugher house.

    Over on Steve Sailer’s blog, he notes that Jews in Israel now have fertility levels on par with those of Arabs. So it is possible to raise fertility levels. Personally, I don’t see a slowly declining population that retains its native characteristics (e.g., Japan) as much of a problem, aside from some short-term transitions due to “bulges” in age cohorts. I’m old enough to remember when the United States had less than 200 million people and it didn’t seem empty.

    I avoid doing business with Negroes and Arabs whenever possible. If I see Negroes or Arabs behind the counter, I walk out unless I really have to buy a specific item.

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    Japan seems to have uniform population and no immigration program. The most few Koreans and Chinese here and there. Now, well come to Toronto. I often have problem finding European faces.
  201. @jimmyriddle
    The West ostensibly bombed Libya to prevent Gadaffi from de-radicalising some Islamist hooligans in Benghazi.

    Of course, that was stupid. But the bomber was one of those Islamists, not a Gadaffi supporter.

    The west destroyed Ghadaffi because he was a leader with success.

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    The west destroyed Ghadaffi because he was a leader with success.
     
    the Zio-West destroyed Gadhafi because they are under the thrall of the Fiend and are destroying any and all nations inconvenient to Israel. Gadhafi's Libya being one of the foremost, because as you point out, he cared about his people and transformed Libya from a corrupt and failed state into one of the most prosperous on the African continent.

    As long as the Fiend controls the world's reserve currency, it will destroy anything and everything that inconveniences Glob Jewish supremacism. That is why Europe and N. America are bombing Muslim nations into smoking ruins, because the Zionist$ want them to.
  202. @Anon
    Mr Derbyshire, I followed your Ivanhoe link to Amazon, thinking I might pick up that classic I'd never read. The reviews are full of admonitions to read the book, especially now that there's such a resurgence of violent anti-semitism, because as the book shows repeatedly, English and Normans alike are cruel and racist jew-haters, while Jews are good and kind and gentle.

    Not one of the reviews seems to recognise that Ivanhoe is a novel. I think I'll pass, frankly.

    I started Ivanhoe, but I put it down when one of the characters reminisces about the day that his father fought at the Battle of Hastings. Hastings was 1066, Ivanhoe was set during the reign of King Richard the Lionheart (1189-1199). Physically impossible. I know it’s fiction but historical fiction can’t be impossible.

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  203. @unpc downunder
    This is clear evidence of the IQ/temperament gap between North and South Caucasians. Muslims with their tribal, honour killing culture think they take on the West with violence and win. Yet for every white they kill western soldiers will kill dozens if not hundreds of Muslims with their high tech weaponry. And no they won't take over the West, the Asians may, but the Muslims will simply make life miserable for working class whites and wealthy whites will be largely unaffected.

    If these Muslim terrorists were smart they wouldn't focus on killing children, they would focus on hitting weathy whites directly in the pocket. Our FIRE economies could easily be bought to a standstill by infrastructure sabotage and well targeted nuisance behaviour. But that would take cool-headed discipline and intelligence, which most Muslims don't have.

    Maybe smart Muslims do understand that with terrorism they’re doing exactly what the west wants.
    I consider myself smart, but, if I were a Muslim, what would I do ?
    How does one change the illusions of the majority in the west ?
    Not by disrupting, what does not seem too difficult, daily life in western countries.
    Even Trump may not succeed in changing the course of history.
    After his failed 1934 coup Hitler realised that only by democratic means he could realise his goals.
    One sees what CNN, Washpost and NYT can do, in order to undermine Trump.
    Control of the media is to a large extent control of people’s minds.
    Therefore internet censorship began, too dangerous, world wide uncontrolled exchange of ideas.

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  204. @Alden
    I know only normal White men. Some I know watch a few sports events a year on TV or even go to a game once a year. I don't believe any White or other race man I know has ever mentioned Kobe Bryant to me. And I live in Los Angeles where he works.

    I know normal White men who don't worship black athletes and don't "deliver their daughters wombs" to black men.

    Why tell me about all your friends who worship black athletes and wish they had daughters to deliver to black men? The endless rants about sex of you and others is inappropriate, pornographic, distasteful, disgusting, degenerate and depraved. I get it. Ms grande is a poem preformer and her fans and their mothers are sluts. Are we to read the endless rants for years?

    This is supposed to be a site where respectable people discuss politics and current events, not a place where perverted wankers post their porn fantasies.

    And why did you provide that link? Do you expect me to look at a picture of black rapist Kobe Bryant and his ridiculous admirer? No way in hell. I sent too many black rapists to Quentin, Folsum and Pelican Bay to want to look at another one.

    Once more my question. Why do you spend so much time on the internet looking at black rapists you pervert?

    I spent 20 years of my life sending black rapists to prison.

    What have you, anon and all the pervert wankers ever done but roam the Internet looking for black/ White porn?

    Over on Steve Sailer’s blog, he’s had a number of articles on the recruitment of black athletes into college athletics, especially football. These athletes are recruited, and alumnae, mostly white alumnae, are complicit in the process, knowing that there is a substantial risk that they will rape white co-eds. At Baylor there are allegations (unproven, I concede, at this point) that black recruits were told explicitly that white co-eds would be sexually available. You don’t need to frequent interracial porn sites (ugh!!) to realize that black college athletes are being put in an environment where there will be numerous opportunities to have sex (voluntarily or otherwise) with white co-eds, and that the process is organized mostly by white men.

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  205. romar says:
    @Alden
    Manchester police announced where the Abedi family got the tens of thousands of pounds that enabled them to fly back and forth from England to several countries in the Middle East for years.
    Welfare fraud and student loans funded the bombing. Apparently the English student loan system does not require class attendance and accumulation of credits to continue receiving loans.

    BBC radio useful idiot programs claim the Abedi brothers might have been bullied by evil Whites. But they lived on the middle of the Libyan neighborhood so it's unlikely they were bullied by Whites.

    Welfare fraud?
    This young mans family is rich – with loads of British pounds from MI6 and MI5 – and Theresa “May as Home Secretary, knew all about this:
    Salman’s father, Ramadan Abedi, is a former officer in Gaddafi’s Intelligence Services. MI6 succeeded in turning him into “their man in Tripoli.”
    He was involved in an assassination attempt against Gaddafi, and when they failed, he was exfiltrated with family and settled in the UK as a “refugee”. He played a role in all the events that led to the massacre of Gaddafi and the destruction of his own country – all the while collecting loads of UK money. http://www.voltairenet.org/article196455.html
    Forget welfare fraud… Instead, ask May to explain why such people were collected and settled in Manchester and elsewhere. Their fathers killed their own people for your money, their sons are now killing you – with your own money.

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    Sounds like propagandist BS to me and indeed it is just as shoddy copy of unsourced and unevidenced propaganda on the voltairenet.org website which may be a front for the Assad régime.
    , @Alden
    The Mirror, the Independent, the Telegraph, New York Post, New York Times
    The Sun, Legal Insurrection, and Powerlineblog all reported the use of student loans and. benefits known as welfare in the US to fund the bombing and their travel back and forth to Libya and other Muslim countries.
  206. @Alden
    Thanks for the info. I had no idea the invaders of 900 years were different from today's invaders

    You contradict yourself. You stated half of William forces consisted of decendants of people who once fled from Britain during Anglo Saxon invasion. In this case it is different from now. Arabs and other Muslims never lived in Britain. They also did not win the battle but came like beggars and refugees.

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    How is the simple fact that the revanchist Bretons returned 500 years after they fled the Saxons a contradiction?

    You need to work on your reading comprehension.
  207. @Diversity Heretic
    Over on Steve Sailer's blog, he notes that Jews in Israel now have fertility levels on par with those of Arabs. So it is possible to raise fertility levels. Personally, I don't see a slowly declining population that retains its native characteristics (e.g., Japan) as much of a problem, aside from some short-term transitions due to "bulges" in age cohorts. I'm old enough to remember when the United States had less than 200 million people and it didn't seem empty.

    I avoid doing business with Negroes and Arabs whenever possible. If I see Negroes or Arabs behind the counter, I walk out unless I really have to buy a specific item.

    Japan seems to have uniform population and no immigration program. The most few Koreans and Chinese here and there. Now, well come to Toronto. I often have problem finding European faces.

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  208. @Daniel H
    Herman Goering's nephew enlisted in the US Army Air force and bombed the s**t out of Germany, and did it with gusto. I think his only requested deferral was to not have to bomb either Cologne or Hamburg, because that is where his grandmother was from.

    William Patrick Hitler, Adolph Hitler's half Irish nephew enlisted in the US Navy after personally pleading to F.D.R that he be permitted the honor of serving. He served with distinction.

    There were service people in the Third Reich with some Jewish ancestry, sometimes as much as half-Jewish, who served all the more devotedly, precisely because of that. A kind of psychological overcompensation, perhaps the need to prove themselves, etc.
    I don’t know to what extent this is based on historical events concerning the real character, but Liebgott in the HBO TV series Band Of Brothers was so devoted to killing Nazis that people assumed he was Jewish. In fact he was descended from ethnic Germans in Romania, Hungary or Yugoslavia and there were people of similar background to him in the Waffen-SS. It is as though he was compensating for being an ethnic German in an American unit.

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  209. @Bel Riose
    Excellent question.

    Corvinus's shtick consists of:

    (i) never posting an opinion of his own. Notice how he never offers an original comment, but confines himself to commenting on others' opinions? This is no accident. Corvinus hasn't the moral courage, much less the intellect, to put forth a viewpoint on this site.

    As an aside, there's pretty good evidence Corvinus is actually a woman.

    Anyway, back to this clown's M.O. The second half of his shtick consists of...

    (ii) parsing others' comments, proffering exceptionally pedantic (and, nearly always, irrelevant) comments and questions, and then demanding that the commenter "prove" his statements.

    Needless to say, this is an intellectually and morally cheap tactic (and thus well suited to someone like Corvinus). A forum like this one isn't a court of law. Nor is it an academic debate for which the debaters can reasonably be expected to have ready access to citations to prove their statements.

    Yet Corvinus treats it as such. Of course, this is the main reason why he never posts an opinion of his own: the moment he does so, someone will dissect his comment the same way he dissects others' opinions. They will demand from him the same sort of proof he demands of everyone else.

    And then his shtick will be exposed for what it really is.

    Stumbling across one of Corvinus's comments is like stepping in a pile of dog excrement: it's unpleasant, unexpected, and it always leaves a nasty smell afterwards.

    Without defending Corvinus or disagreeing with your gemeral assessment I suggest you are being too censorious and restrictive in your criticism of the form or style of his contributions.. Merely for brevity let me put it this way: how would Socrates, in classic Socratic mode, frame his comments?

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    how would Socrates, in classic Socratic mode, frame his comments?
     
    Point well made, but I'm pretty sure Socrates would leave out the straw men, false equivalences, etc.
  210. @Alden
    William brought about 10, ooo soldiers to England. About 5,000 of them were Bretons from BrittanyThey were the revanchist descendants of the indegenous Britons who fled England 500AD because of the Saxon takeover. They came back and took back the lands the Saxons took from them.

    Nah. Brittany was an impoverished duchy, semi-independent of the French king and a ready source of troops for various ventures, just as its sailors were later to be the backbone of the French navy. Henry Tudor also picked up some Bretons when he invaded England in 1485 to remove Richard III. Centuries later, Bretons who were pious Catholics and often lacked fluency in the French language were considered a good bet to garrison Paris as they were not likely to be too influenced by the locals.
    I doubt whether there was a clear sense of avenging what the Saxons had done even in 1066, and it was certainly no motivation later.

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    You don't know what you are talking about. The Breton component of Henry 7 invasion has nothing to do with the revanchist Breton component of the Norman invasion 400 years earlier.

    Nor does Brittany's poverty in Renaissance times. Just google Companions of William the conqueror and Bretons in the Norman conquest and you will find several articles confirming what. I wrote. Some of the articles are Wikepedia which I know you believe to be the absolute truth.

    You are absolutely wrong that revanchist Bretons didn't return to England in 1066. Since you don't read history books, check Wikepedia or ask Mr Google.
  211. @jilles dykstra
    The only country in the world where Muslims rule themselves is Iran.
    In all other countries, even Indonesia, Muslims are suppressed.
    Iran just became free in 1979.

    What are you smoking? Or is it some Humpty Dumpty version meaning of “rule” or “Muslims” that makes you ignore Turkey; Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Pakistan, Yemen; Ma!aysia, just to name a few Muslim countries?

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    Yemen???

    The UK's century-long war against Yemen
    http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/britains-century-long-war-yemen-809826615

    Britain is backing a Saudi invasion of Yemen that has cost thousands of innocent lives. It is providing advanced weaponry to the Saudis, training their military and has soldiers embedded with them, helping with targeting of air strikes. This is true of today. But it also describes exactly what was happening during the 1960s, in a shameful episode which Britain has, like so much of its colonial past, effectively whitewashed out of history.

    .... So the current British-Saudi war against Yemen is in fact the third in a century. But why is Britain so seemingly determined to see the country dismembered and its development sabotaged?

    Strange as it may seem, the answer is that Britain is scared of Yemen, the sole country on the Arab peninsula with the potential power to challenge the colonial stitch-up reached between London and the Gulf monarchies it placed in power in the 19th century, and who continue to rule to this day.
  212. @romar
    Welfare fraud?
    This young mans family is rich - with loads of British pounds from MI6 and MI5 - and Theresa "May as Home Secretary, knew all about this:
    Salman's father, Ramadan Abedi, is a former officer in Gaddafi’s Intelligence Services. MI6 succeeded in turning him into "their man in Tripoli."
    He was involved in an assassination attempt against Gaddafi, and when they failed, he was exfiltrated with family and settled in the UK as a "refugee". He played a role in all the events that led to the massacre of Gaddafi and the destruction of his own country - all the while collecting loads of UK money. http://www.voltairenet.org/article196455.html
    Forget welfare fraud... Instead, ask May to explain why such people were collected and settled in Manchester and elsewhere. Their fathers killed their own people for your money, their sons are now killing you - with your own money.

    Sounds like propagandist BS to me and indeed it is just as shoddy copy of unsourced and unevidenced propaganda on the voltairenet.org website which may be a front for the Assad régime.

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    UK Government Harbored Terrorists Linked to Manchester Blast for Decades
    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com.es/2017/05/uk-government-harbored-terrorists.html
    , @L.K
    Hey wizard of imbecility,

    The zio-anglo-american media in which you pretend to believe in, is a monstrous propaganda machine, and there is plenty of evidence of it.

    They are the propaganda arm for the zionists, ZUSA's & ZUK's deep state, etc.

    In the case of the Manchester thing though, even msm has provided some tidbits that are quite interesting... info that Derbyshire studiously ignores... as always.
  213. Rich says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Here, as with the attacks in Europe, the why is never discussed.
    Do not know very much about Egypt, but do know how the Egyptian military, dependent on the USA, removed the democratically elected Muslim president.
    I wonder if the Copts are seen as collaborators with the military government, a puppet government of the USA.

    The Copts are seen as Dhimmi, a word that means, protected in Arabic. According to the Koran, they are supposed to be allowed certain freedoms, but are to be kept in an inferior state. Not allowed to wear any kind of religious medal or garb, not allowed to build new Churches or evangelize, and if memory serves, they are to pay a special tax, must step to the side when a Muslim passes and can’t build a building higher than a Muslim building. The zealots who are represented by ISIS and Al Quaeda are in violation of the Koran when they murder Christians or Jews. The horrific murder of the Copts recently, had nothing to do with Coptic support of the military government, it’s simply what these insane zealots do.

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    This worked quite well in the Ottoman empire, and in Islamic Spain.
    Why not now ?
    Could it be because the Egyptian army, dependent on the USA, removed the democratically elected Muslim president ?
  214. @Rurik

    What have you, anon and all the pervert wankers ever done but roam the Internet looking for black/ White porn?
     
    you doth protest too much, methinks

    I don’t believe any White or other race man I know has ever mentioned Kobe Bryant to me.
     
    I knew a few. Back when it happened, they were saying the victim was nothing but a gold-digging whore who had went to his room. "what did she expect to happen?'

    and so forth.

    You don't have to know sports fans to understand that Kobe was lionized as a great hero afterwards and roll model. Like I said, his posters were on shoe stores all over America.

    don’t “deliver their daughters wombs” to black men.
     
    that's just Priss's hyperbolic style. He doesn't mean that literally.

    but if his point is that England is encouraging the breeding away of its vile, racist, white genes by importing non-whites and promoting miscegenation

    (that looks to me like a British style of architecture in the background)

    https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/poolside.jpg?w=620&h=465

    perhaps the father/photographer's daughter is on the left with the fellow flipping the bird

    (you don't have to click on it if you're too scared. I post it for the general edification of all ; )

    here's the (Jewish) former president of France explaining that if the French don't race mix willingly, they'll have to be forced to by the state.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDaKFE_J_ug

    here's a German politician cheering on the same thing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pk2UMqqyfY

    this has nothing to do with your porn obsession. Rather it has to do with the genocidal hatred being directed at the people of the West, and often times most vociferously from certain types of people from inside the West who, like the German politician and others, (gays, Jews, radical feminists, minorities of all stripes and colors who can not be blamed for wanting to feast on the dying carcass of the Western world).

    What happened in Rotherham has nothing to do with porn. OK. At least I hope not. But rather the issue of the sickness of the West and their cowardice in the face of political correctness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQNUJlJaN7c

    Once more my question. Why do you spend so much time on the internet looking at black rapists you pervert?
     
    what kind of asshole makes a completely spurious charge like that?

    This is supposed to be a site where respectable people discuss politics and current events, not a place where perverted wankers post their porn fantasies.
     
    do us all a favor and take your own advise

    Did you listen to what Sarkozy was really saying in French? Obviously not. Can I offer you a half share in the Golden Gate Bridge with lunch with Warren Buffett tossed in? Cheap at double the price…

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    • Replies: @Rurik

    Did you listen to what Sarkozy was really saying in French?
     
    it has sub-titles wiz, and even goes on to translate the most significant word he uses

    are you suggesting that he isn't saying what the sub-titles say he is?
  215. @JoaoAlfaiate
    We're bombing them and they're bombing us. Why is that so difficult to understand?

    US Sec of State Madeleine Albright said starving or otherwise murdering 500,000 Iraqi children was "worth it".

    If Mr. Derbyshire can't recognize Manchester and other attacks as blow back, he's blind.

    But in cases like this one they are supposed to be we. The problem is that that they never become we.

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  216. Corvinus says:
    @res
    I'm curious, Corvinus, at what point does this aspect of your shtick become incitement to violence?

    “I’m curious, Corvinus, at what point does this aspect of your shtick become incitement to violence?”

    It’s not a “shtick”, it’s a challenge to those posters who repeatedly talk about a race war, who repeatedly talk about the future separation of the United States, who repeatedly talk about how someone needs to become physically involved. Are they serious about the future and the machinations of elites destroying everything in their path?

    Remember, people kill people. Little ol’ anonymous me on a blog ain’t going to be the ultimate trigger mechanism. In the end, they are acting like armchair warriors.

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    • Agree: Alden, rw95
    • Replies: @res
    It can be both (but fallacies like false dichotomy are a critical component of your shtick so carry on). You might want to check the definition of shtick paying special attention to things like "style of performance" and "a person's special talent, interest, or area of activity." And your persona here is nothing if not stylized.

    I have some sympathy for criticizing people who go all internet tough guy or armchair warrior, but I think you really are trending towards incitement (e.g. a recent Breivik comment I'm not able to find right now). Small chance of actually inciting someone in real life (though there are examples like Dylann Roof that make me wonder) I know, but there's something to be said for not being part of the problem.
  217. hyperbola says:

    Poor Australia. As infested with corrupt jewish bankers and globalists as the rest of th eAnglo-Saxon countries. Australia made exactly the same strategic mistake after WWII as the US: too many racist crooks from eastern Europe were taken in.

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  218. @White Lightning
    I'm not sure what an Aunt Sally is, but is there a type of relative that means not addressing the central point, i.e. that no immigration system is positive for the host population if the net result is displacement of said host population. You just restated that it should be easy to find a significant number of Chinese or Indians with an IQ exceeding the mean in White nations. I'm not disputing that. What I am asserting is that it has nothing to do with whether or not the host population experiences a net benefit. A large influx consisting entirely of high IQ immigrants hardly benefits the White middle class. In your second sentence, the one after you wrongly accuse me of insulting your Aunt Sally, you reject admitting any type of immigrant en masse. You used the word "plenty" in your previous comment, so unless you're taking great liberties as your own lexicographer, you do favor admission of a large number of high IQ immigrants. And yeah, it's pretty clear they like what we have, but their increasing visibility as SJWs raises questions about their desire to assimilate. And besides, so what if they like what we have. It doesn't mean they have a right to it.

    I wondered whether I should have said “straw man” instead of Aunt Sally. That’s what I meant. I’m surprised that you were so sure I must have been thinking of mass immigration. In case I have not made it clear let me make it clear now: i think lots of small minorities with a mainstream majority is the way to avoid trouble. Not that being a small minority was enough to save German Jews but I think it is pretty clear that having 2 per per cent mainland Chinese 2 per cent overseas Chinese, 1 per cent Indian Diaspora and 3 per cent educated Indians of mixed castes and lsnguage groups plus 1 per cent mixed Sri Lankans (Tamil, Burgher, Sinhalese, is a mixture which makes sure none of them think they can reshape the host country. That last point is THE point to my mind.

    Given that less than half of existing Australians are net contributors to public revenues and native white Australian are breeding dysgenically it’s pretty clear that slmost everyone benefits from the right kind of immigration. (The exceptions, such as those who don’t get into medical school because bright hardworking immigrants get better marks, are statistically negligible). Another current source of benefit is the foreign money coming with immigrants to build houses and flats. It’s only a net benefit of course because house prices are msking it hard for the young to buy where they want to.

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    • Replies: @res
    I did not know the Aunt Sally reference either, but thought it fairly clear from context. Regarding the etymology, is the idea "set it up and knock it down"?
    Looks like it: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/aunt_sally
    Trying to decide if I think that is a more evocative phrase than straw man: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=straw+man
  219. Corvinus says:
    @Bel Riose
    Excellent question.

    Corvinus's shtick consists of:

    (i) never posting an opinion of his own. Notice how he never offers an original comment, but confines himself to commenting on others' opinions? This is no accident. Corvinus hasn't the moral courage, much less the intellect, to put forth a viewpoint on this site.

    As an aside, there's pretty good evidence Corvinus is actually a woman.

    Anyway, back to this clown's M.O. The second half of his shtick consists of...

    (ii) parsing others' comments, proffering exceptionally pedantic (and, nearly always, irrelevant) comments and questions, and then demanding that the commenter "prove" his statements.

    Needless to say, this is an intellectually and morally cheap tactic (and thus well suited to someone like Corvinus). A forum like this one isn't a court of law. Nor is it an academic debate for which the debaters can reasonably be expected to have ready access to citations to prove their statements.

    Yet Corvinus treats it as such. Of course, this is the main reason why he never posts an opinion of his own: the moment he does so, someone will dissect his comment the same way he dissects others' opinions. They will demand from him the same sort of proof he demands of everyone else.

    And then his shtick will be exposed for what it really is.

    Stumbling across one of Corvinus's comments is like stepping in a pile of dog excrement: it's unpleasant, unexpected, and it always leaves a nasty smell afterwards.

    “(i) never posting an opinion of his own. Notice how he never offers an original comment, but confines himself to commenting on others’ opinions? This is no accident. Corvinus hasn’t the moral courage, much less the intellect, to put forth a viewpoint on this site.”

    Repeatedly I have offered my own position on matters. You’re being other than accurate here.

    “As an aside, there’s pretty good evidence Corvinus is actually a woman.”

    H0ney, we’ve been through this already.

    “(ii) parsing others’ comments, proffering exceptionally pedantic (and, nearly always, irrelevant) comments and questions, and then demanding that the commenter “prove” his statements.”

    Thank you for your opinion on this matter.

    “Nor is it an academic debate for which the debaters can reasonably be expected to have ready access to citations to prove their statements.”

    It’s called the Internet. There are a number of sources available to refute a person’s remarks.

    “Of course, this is the main reason why he never posts an opinion of his own: the moment he does so, someone will dissect his comment the same way he dissects others’ opinions. They will demand from him the same sort of proof he demands of everyone else.”

    Which I consistently provide that evidence when required in the form of links with commentary.

    “Stumbling across one of Corvinus’s comments is like stepping in a pile of dog excrement: it’s unpleasant, unexpected, and it always leaves a nasty smell afterwards.”

    Then don’t read the arguments I proffer.

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  220. rw95 says:
    @Cyrano
    Diversity is our strength. I feel sorry for the Chinese. I really do. 1.5 billion of them, almost all the same. Nothing but weakness there. To be honest with you, I don’t think they’ll make it past this year. What is wrong with those people? Why can’t they learn from the west? You don’t have to be original, just copy the most brilliant idea the west has ever come up with. How complicated is that?

    The Chinese are not as homogeneous as we like to think.

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    They have a ways to go before diversity becomes their strength.
  221. hyperbola says:

    A “story” which censors so much contextual information is best regarded as disinformation.

    UK Government Harbored Terrorists Linked to Manchester Blast for Decades

    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com.es/2017/05/uk-government-harbored-terrorists.html

    …. Thus, astoundingly, according to the Telegraph, a thriving community of listed terrorists exists knowingly in the midst of the British public, without any intervention by the UK government, security, or intelligence agencies – with members regularly traveling abroad and participating in armed conflict and terrorist activities before apparently returning home – not only without being incarcerated, but apparently also without even being closely monitored.

    LIFG also appears on the US State Department’s list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Astoundingly, it appears under a section titled, “Delisted Foreign Terrorist Organizations,” and indicates that it was removed as recently as 2015.

    Elsewhere on the US State Department’s website, is a 2012 report where LIFG is described:
    On November 3, 2007, [Al Qaeda (AQ)] leader Ayman al-Zawahiri announced a formal merger between AQ and LIFG. However, on July 3, 2009, LIFG members in the United Kingdom released a statement formally disavowing any association with AQ.
    The report also makes mention of LIFG’s role in US-led NATO regime change operations in Libya in 2011 (emphasis added):…..

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  222. hyperbola says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Sounds like propagandist BS to me and indeed it is just as shoddy copy of unsourced and unevidenced propaganda on the voltairenet.org website which may be a front for the Assad régime.

    UK Government Harbored Terrorists Linked to Manchester Blast for Decades

    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com.es/2017/05/uk-government-harbored-terrorists.html

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Thanks for the link. It carries a degree of plausibility not to be found in romar's link. A quick read suggests that the Libyan refugees tended to be a sample biased towards those with pre-existing connections to MI6. What is omitted is the long background of concern, with reason, that Ghaddafi was sponsoring terrorist attacks dating back at least to the 1980s Lockerbie/PanAm Flight 103 disaster. The other big omission is the knowledge or imagination to understand what it is being implicitly asked for, namely vastly greater funds and many more smart people for MI5 and Special Branch.
    , @Alden
    Thanks very much for the link. I believe it.
  223. annamaria says:
    @Rurik
    I agree with everything you wrote

    I can't give a blanket condemnation of the British men when the Americans are simply not that much better, except that nothing as egregious as Rotherham has actually happened yet here, even tho it would be happening everywhere if it were up to ((their)) druthers.

    So I suspect that we are going to get exactly what we're willing to put up with. They will push us until the breaking point, and they have already done so, in places like Ruby Ridge, where the locals were ready to kill the fecal marshals on sight. Like at Waco. They'll burn us alive if we try to resist, but resist we had better or we're all going to get Rotherhams in every town, city and village ((their)) influence reaches. From Norway to Australia, our race are being savaged and little girls treated worse than dogs.

    “They’ll burn us alive if we try to resist…”
    Yes, “they” have been preparing vigorously for such outcome for us, as if “they” (the profiteering deciders in high places) will be able to escape the big flame: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47134.htm
    “In response to the things that were said in that advertisement and flier about him [JFK] being a traitor for befriending Russia, he told his wife Jackie on the morning he was assassinated: “We are heading into nut country today.” Of course, as he well knew, the nuts weren’t located only in Dallas. They were also situated throughout the U.S. national-security establishment.”

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    Yes, “they” have been preparing vigorously for such outcome for us, as if “they” (the profiteering deciders in high places) will be able to escape the big flame:
     
    all true, annamaria,

    the MIC wants to keep the $cam/wars going, and the tribalists want to dominate the planet

    and both of them together are a devil's brew
  224. @sb
    Re Asian immigration to Australia
    Check out selective state high schools and undergraduate medical and dental schools in Australia .

    They have all become majority Asian -in fact majority ethnic Chinese .
    Why ? Because not only are the students bright and motivated but are very well coached for the entry exams . Old stock Aussie students just don't do the intensive coaching .
    Of course you could say ,and posssibly rightly so, that most bright Old Stock Aussie kids go private -which is pretty true
    ( Perhaps I should advise folks here that about a third of Aussie students are in private -mainly Catholic - schools . Australia is a very middle class society and middle class people are generally brighter , more educated ,have more disposable money ,have a preference for traditional full on academic education with extras etc )
    Selective high schools give a private school standard education for free . Asians ,even wealthy ones, love the free stuff that Western countries provide
    Furthermore I am advised by a Med school academic that while Asians are very able at getting entrance to elite courses on high school results , they do rather come back to the field when looking at undergraduate performance

    This is all a bit of a ramble but what I'm saying is that Asians are raised to be terribly competitive in a dog eat dog culture -while Old stock Aussies are largely the polar opposite - and that there is an industry enabling this
    We should remember that professional training is there to serve the whole community and not simply to be a reward for clever dicks gaming the system .For instance we need country kids from sleepy bush high schools to become doctors and dentists because country kids want to live in the country and urban Asian kids don't .

    To give a non race similar story I understand that Veterinary courses are extremely female dominated and rural animal industries can't find enough vets to service them as mainly males choose this kind of work . Is this a good thing ?

    The only priblem I see in what you mention that I see as worth trying to ameliorate is possibly getting s suboptimal mefical worforce by strict selection on exam results which can be coached and crammed for. I remember reading of one medical school broadening its admissions critetia. Now maybe I know why. My impression is BTW that the laid bsck old Aussie way is going out, at least in professional and upper middle class families. So far i hsve heard family talking of tutors for maths, French, Spanish and Chinese…

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  225. annamaria says:
    @Alden
    Did Richard Fletcher mention that Christian Spanish girls between 10 and 14 were shipped off to the brothels of the Muslim countries for 800 years and that was the main reason Isabella the Catholic banned both the Muslims and the Jewish slave traders who did the actual work of collecting the girls and selling them to Muslims in the Middle East?

    A lot of the glorification of Muslim Spain is just anti European Christian culture propaganda. Or in your case 500 year old Calvinist anti Catholicism.

    Do you imply that Catholic Church never practiced and abhorred and prohibited slavery?

    “Debate about the morality of slavery continued throughout this period, with some books critical of slavery being placed on the Index of Forbidden Books by the Holy Office between 1573 and 1826.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_slavery

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    • Replies: @Alden
    I didn't imply anything about the Catholic Church or say a word about the general question of slavery.

    I reported the facts. After the Muslim conquest, 10 to 14 year old Spanish girls were enslaved and sent to the brothels and harems of the Muslim countries.

    That is one of the reasons the Jews were expelled along with the Muslims. The Muslims exempted Jews from slavery. Jews were heavily involved in the enslavement, shipping, buying and selling of Spanish Christian girls.
    Googling Wikepedia isn't research.