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I wrote the definitive takedown of the State of The Union, which I called “this Stalinesque extravaganza” ten years ago in We Are Doomed. Why don’t they listen?

I noted how disgracefully inappropriate this spectacle is to a commercial republic. I pointed out that for most of our history there was no speech, only an “annual message” delivered to Congress in writing. That was done as late as Richard Nixon’s fourth State of the Union in 1973. It’s a sensible and honorable tradition, to which we should revert.

Plainly we’re not going to, certainly not under this president. And I’m bound to say, much as I deplore the whole preposterous, un-republican performance, if we must have the damn fool disgusting thing acted out like this, President Trump did it very well.

His strategy is clearly to position his party as the party of Americans, while the Democratic opposition is the party of foreign scofflaws and unpatriotic, disgruntled minorities.

This isn’t quite congruent with reality, of course. Quite a lot of Congressional Republicans don’t give a hoot for Americans and will move heaven, earth, and the Constitution to appease foreign scofflaws, and the party donors who profit from their cheap labor. One such was sitting right behind the President on Tuesday: Paul Ryan. (Uncharitable souls might want to amend that to “at least one such …” but I’m going to be nice to the Veep here).

Conversely, there are probably still a few patriots in the Democratic Party, if you look hard enough. Jim Webb was still a Democrat last time I checked, although not alas in Congress. Certainly among Democrat voters there are many who still quaintly regard the Democrats as the party of the little guy, while Republicans represent the heartless rich. I know some of those innocents, and I’m sure you do too.

The President’s strategy is nonetheless a good one—probably good enough to preserve his party’s House and Senate majorities this coming November, if he doesn’t do something dumb in the meantime.

I did my due diligence, anyway; sat through the whole thing. Dr Johnson’s remark about Paradise Lost is of course apt: “None ever wished it longer.”

The Lenny Skutnik business is now totally out of control, I see. For the benefit of younger readers, I should explain that Lenny Skutnik was the first model citizen brought to the State of the Union speech. He had performed a heroic rescue in January 1982 so Ronald Reagan invited him to the SOTU speech that year. His name thereafter became a generic tag for any citizen so honored. I’ve even seen it used as a verb: “So-and-so’s going to be Lenny Skutniked this year.”

Mighty oaks from little acorns grow. No State of the Union speech is considered complete nowadays until we’ve been shown half a dozen of these people at least. God bless them all, but there’s a right time and place for everything. The celebrating of our nation’s heroes—a category that, this being the 21st century, of course includes victims—does not belong in a merely political event.

The tradition of Lenny Skutniking cynically enlists normal human emotions of admiration and sympathy in a nakedly political cause. We didn’t do this before 1982. I wish we’d stop doing it. Our political life is already over-emotionalized.

Still in a due diligence frame of mind, I did my best to watch the Democrats’ response speech, which was given by some 14-year-old Kennedy princeling. [Full Transcript and Video: Joe Kennedy Delivers Democratic Response to the State of the Union, NYT, January 31, 2018] I hung in there for a few minutes in hopes he might offer something that made sense. But when he said, “This is not who we are,” I gave up and went and went back to my jigsaw puzzle, which had been calling to me all evening from the next room.

Now to the President’s comments on immigration. Bill Buckley once scoffed at some public figure for saying that politics is the art of the possible. Was there, Bill asked, any more hackneyed cliché in the political lexicon?

Well, no, there isn’t. The thing about clichés, however, is that they’re true. Our human nature is so easily distracted away from truth that anything, no matter how shop-worn, anything that draws us back to the contemplation of truth, should be smiled at, not scoffed at.

Politics is the art of the possible. Our President seems to know that.

I’m not sure that “know” is the right word there. The President doesn’t strike me as a person who sits down in a quiet room and carefully thinks things through, after reading up on the relevant topics. He’s more of a person with superbly good instincts for dealing with people—a master social tactician. By instinct, honed through decades of competitive dealings in the major-league construction business, he has become expert in putting opponents on the wrong foot and getting what he wants.

One area of human activity in which those kinds of honed instincts really pay off is gambling. The problem with gambling of course is, that sometimes even the best gamblers lose.

That all comes to mind in regard to the President’s January 29th immigration proposals, and their probable fate. January 29th, I should say, was the official release date of the proposals; we knew what they were, and were commenting on them, some days before.

ORDER IT NOW

The proposals, as we’ve been saying, are nothing to make patriots stand up and cheer. With a bit of congressional tinkering—and presidential proposals don’t get to be federal laws without some of that—they could easily morph into another 1986-style bait-and-switch: mass Amnesty of millions of illegals up front, with lots of promises for enforcement and reform. The promises then get forgotten when enough donors have harassed their Republican congresscritters, or when Democrats get control of Congress again. Then we’re back where we were before, but with a few million more Democrat voters heading to the polling stations each Election Day.

Did I say “1986-style” I could as well have said “1996-style,” “2006-style,” “2007-style,” or “2013-style.” Remember, this is Groundhog Day.

The President’s proposals say nothing about E-Verify or birthright citizenship. They do curtail chain migration, but only effectively after 15-20 years because they permit the current backlog of immigration applications to clear.

They do end the Diversity Visa Lottery, but only sort-of: they actually “re-purpose” it. I guess that means those fifty thousand green cards will no longer be gained by sheer luck, but instead will go to more bogus refugees and software coolies from Bangalore.

They do fund a border wall; but from the public fisc, not—as should be done—by taxing remittances.

So the President’s proposals are thin gruel. They have been enough, though, to get the Democrats screeching and fainting and sitting motionless through the State of the Union speech with their angry faces on above their Kente cloth shawls.

Probably that was the point. As I said, the strategy here is to out the Democrats as sternly, resolutely determined to favor illegal aliens over Americans and outhouse countries over our beautiful own.

To judge from opinion polls, Americans at large aren’t too ill-disposed to the DACAns. Sure: Lots of us would like to see them loaded into commandeered school buses and shipped to the border. But there’s a big good-natured soft center that says: “Hey, give them a break … but could you then please solve the problem, stop any more coming in? And speaking of problems, could you please address this one and this one and this one …”

Still, that good-natured soft center, as good-natured and soft-hearted as it may be, isn’t going to turn out to vote enthusiastically for a party that sees Amnesty for the illegals as the be-all and end-all of national policy-making, prior to anything that advances the interests of Americans.

There you see Donald Trump’s art: he’s fixing the Democrats in voters’ minds as exactly that party.

You might say: as a strategic rhetorical ploy, that’s all very well, but if he just wanted to get a big negative reaction from the Democrats, why didn’t he give it them with both barrels: E-Verify, birthright citizenship, tax on remittances, full and immediate annulling of chain migration, unconditional end to the diversity green card lottery?

I’m guessing the calculation here was twofold:

  • First, to not alienate too many of the cucks in his own party;
  • second, to be able to present himself as a compassionate moderate to that good-natured soft center of the voting public, so they’ll see Democrats in the worst possible light.

The President’s gamble here is that the Democrats will keep up their angry-face resistance for nine months, and go into the midterms as the party obstructing reasonable reform on behalf of foreign scofflaws.

I hope he wins that bet. But, as noted, the problem with gambling is that sometimes you lose.

Losing would in this case mean the Democrats saying: “Okay, we’ll buy your proposals. Bring them to Congress, allow us to tweak things a little here and there as we customarily do, and we’ll vote them through—no prob!”

That would be a disaster for patriotic immigration reform.

Yes, it’s a gamble. A set of proposals more Radio Derb-compliant would have been less likely to be accepted by the opposition, but more easy for the Democrats and their Main Stream Media shills to portray as crazy extremism.

I think Trump played a good hand here, doing what he could. If it works, his party will have two more years in control of Congress, with a possibility of real immigration reform and a GOP in awe of his tactical skills and so more inclined to go along with his program.

There is real possibility here. Not certainty: You don’t get certainty in politics.

It’s the art of the possible, the art of the possible.

2010-12-24dl[1] John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. unit472 says:

    I saw the Homeland Security Secretary testifying a week or so ago. She noted that of the current 800,000 DACA applicants 2500 had already been rejected for criminal offenses. Trump should smiling offer the Dacacrats their ‘path to citizenship and then mine the road. In fact, that 12 year time period is a good start but he can do more.

    He can make it expensive and bureaucratic. Applicants must re-register every year and pay a stiff fee to cover the cost of processing and vetting their application. Fail to register, not have the proper documentation or pay the fee the green card is revoked and you must start over. Toss in misdemeanor criminal offenses as a disqualifying event and at the end of the first 12 year period not that many children of Guatemalan stoop laborers or Salvadorean gangbangers are going to be US citizens.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    , @llloyd
    , @tjm
    , @MarkinLA
  2. A black Derbyshire who is equally brilliant and bold:

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Thomm
  3. SnakeEyes says:

    My suspicion, too, is that this is the hand the Trump is playing. The fact that he waded straight back into the issue after the abortive government shut down when he could have let the bipartisan committee do the legwork suggests that he has a serious strategy. But I doubt his game plan is to keep immigration on the front burner until November. He is a deal guy. Odds are that he will reach a deal with the Dems sooner rather than later (plus the Dems are cluing into his strategy).

  4. Arclight says:

    I think this is possible – John Judis and Damon Linker on the left seem to be waking up to the idea that the more the public sees the Democrats on this issue, the more it sinks in that the Democrats are the extremists here. And the Dem’s insistence that anyone who is opposed to any change in immigration policy are white racists is useful in cementing the fact that they are basically an anti-white party at this point and there is no home for the traditional majority population in their tent unless they are on their back and showing their bellies to the new masters.

  5. Jaybird says:

    Why not add the ending 50% citizenship (dual citizenship) to birthright citizenship and E-verify?

  6. Trump has sold out to the Zionists who control the U.S. and are driving America to commit national suicide via illegal unlimited immigration which no other country in the world allows. This the Zionist plan to achieve their goal of a NEW WORLD ORDER with no national borders and no national identity.

    To see what the Zionists have in store for us , read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION.

    • Replies: @Momus
  7. TG says:

    This is an intelligent and well-reasoned post. It may also be wrong.

    Here is another possibility: Trump has finally caved under pressure, and he is now the Republican Obama. That is, a man whose rhetoric fires up the base, that has the opposition spluttering and fuming, but in terms of actual policy – which is what the big donors care about – stabs us all in the back.

    Trump has proposed an open ended unlimited amnesty for illegal immigrants, in exchange for NOTHING of real substance. Cheap labor uber alles, anyone?

    Further evidence: notice how the mainstream media is strangely not screaming at the top of its lungs that he is “Literally Hitler?” If, as I fear, Trump has sold us out, I suspect that, yes, there will be political theater where Nancy Pelosi says weird stuff, but the main pressure will damp down. Russiagate will be allowed to unwind messily, and the mainstream magazines will slowly but surely start running photos of Trump looking presidential.

    Never trust a politician that the New York Times does not proclaim to be racist at least five times a day.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  8. KenH says:

    SOTU speeches are overdone and smack of Soviet style propaganda. It doesn’t matter who the president is we always hear how America’s a bed of roses and getting rosier by the day. But while Trump was blowing sunshine at us and celebrating low black unemployment the culture and race wars were still raging across the fruited plain and San Jose, CA announced the removal of the Christopher Columbus statue at the behest of militant Chicano group “Brown Berets”.

    This is like the KKK demanding the removal of an MLK statue and a city meekly acceding to their demands.

    Trump’s immigration framework is a terrible one for the deplorables. The Democrat leadership is stupid for rejecting it. Even some prog journos are imploring them to take it since this would be a win for the radical left’s demographic war against whites and realization of a one party state controlled by the totalitarian left.

  9. “And I’m bound to say, much as I deplore the whole preposterous, un-republican performance, if we must have the damn fool disgusting thing acted out like this, President Trump did it very well.”

    The address was one of the longest ever delivered. That was no accident either. He was punishing his attending political opponents.

    As for the rest – the only real immigration reform possible anymore will require violence. There are already too many aliens here and they won’t go peacefully.

    • Replies: @Wally
  10. Beckow says:
    @unit472

    Some good ideas, but…. the courts will step in and throw out (or freeze) most of them in practise. And by courts I mean any random judge anywhere who seems to have the full power to change not just existing laws, but even how they are implemented. You see, high fees and some paperwork could always be found ‘discriminatory‘.

    That’s generally how it works in a judicial autocracy. Our ancestors thousands of years ago started out with no legislature, or even an organized executive (there was always a top thug with his posse who could raid and pillage, but that was at least initially quite random). But we had a ‘judge’, an anointed elder who mediated disputes and divided up the goodies. It worked kind of ok in small groups. Today, not so much.

    If you look around many modern autocracies tend to be run by their untouchable judiciary, e.g. Iran, or the worst aspects of EU. It is the top branch, and it just happens to be the least accountable, least visible, with by far the biggest longevity, and the ultimate power. One might almost think that the rulers like it that way.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @tjm
    , @Alden
  11. Post 7 and 8, by Desert Fox and TG, respectively, are correct in every respect, and together provide an accurate summation of what Trump intends, and what he will, in all likelihood, significantly achieve.

  12. I agree with Mr. Derbyshire’s analysis in all but one respect.

    President Trump is not a gambler and never has been. He owns the casino.

    He knows the odds and will only act when they are in his favor. This doesn’t mean he wins every hand, but he wins over time.

    He has simultaneously exposed the open border craziness of the left, and forced the mainstream right to champion true patriotic immigration reform in a way that was unthinkable just two or three years ago.

    This is what negotiation looks like.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  13. Avery says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Great find.

    You are right: brilliant and bold.
    Really sharp young man.
    Great delivery.

  14. As matters stand if the dreamers are rescued Trump gets the credit. If not the Dems get the blame.

    According to the Dems Trump is a Russian agent. So they can’t very well negotiate. They would be negotiating with Putin.

    Russiagate. The war on whiteness. This new left is dumb deep down.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  15. @WorkingClass

    Exactly. Now when the democrats refuse this deal he can shrug and say he tried to help. Then push through a tougher bill with only republican support. It will then forever be the democrats fault that nothing was done for the DREAM-ers.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  16. Numinous says:

    but instead will go to more bogus refugees and software coolies from Bangalore.

    For someone who’s made immigration his shtick, you really need to better inform yourself about the details of the policy as it’s applied, Derb!

    Annual green card quotas are capped at 7% per country. That means no individual country can get more than 7% of immigrant visas in a calendar year. (All the applicants who couldn’t make it in a particular year get added to a backlog.) Sounds reasonable, if “diversity”(of country) is the goal, but in practice this discriminates against the only two countries that have more than 7% of the world’s population: India and China. Which is why both these countries have multi-year (or in Indians’ case, multi-decade) backlogs. Unless Congress explicitly eliminates those quotas or increases the limit, no “available” green cards can be legally distributed to someone from Bangalore.

    • Replies: @ziggurat
  17. He’s doing the best he can. Maybe around 10-15 members of the House are with him on immigration. Maybe 2 in the Senate — Cotton and Grassley. How do you get legislation passed with that arithmetic in play? You can’t. Trump knows this and has alluded to the solution — get better people in Congress. I suppose Trump could channel Ann Coulter, invoke national security and just start building the wall and rounding people up. (The “rounding up” part seems to have started already, ’cause Dems are certainly bleating loudly.) But he wants to get this through Congress and put this on their heads.

  18. Politics is the art of the impossible. Does anyone think that America is going to deport 800,000 Dreamers? A hundred thousand a year for eight years? Do we see any signs of this? Or twelve million illegals? A million a month for a year, or….? Birthright citizenship? How long is that going to take, assuming that the Supremes decide that it won’t take an amendment? Politics should at least be the art of the plausible.

  19. anon • Disclaimer says:

    I think desperate Trumpians are giving Trump far too much credit than he deserves. This was no ploy, no 6th dimensional chest as desperate Trumpians like to position it. The WH immigration concession is a complete disaster. If it were a real gamble they would go all out and push the RAISE act. Democrats could very well come back and accept this piece of turd, and the Republicans would be tossed out of office en masse in Nov. 2018, along with Trump in 2020.

    This new WH proposal screams RINO. It has Paul Ryan and Mike Pence’s fingerprints all over it, delivered through their hired hands John Kelly and Kirstjen Nielsen. I am more convinced with each passing day that Mike Pence and Paul Ryan are quietly working behind the scenes to subvert Trump and get him tossed out of office so Pence can take over. I believe Pence has a lot to do with Trump keeping Paul Ryan on despite his betrayal prior to the election, and it was Pence’s transition team that brought in pro-immigration Zionist traitors like Nikki Haley, Jared Kushner, Reince Priebus, John Kelly, Mattis, McMaster, Kirstjen Nielsen, Andy Puzder, Alexander Acosta, all the Cohens from Wall Street, and all the CEOs in the WH IT and Economic councils — all of whom were well known pro immigration Zionists, and most of all Mike Pence brought in the traitorous gang at the DOJ and FBI, Rod Rosenstein and Christopher Wray.

    Plan A was to get Rod Rosenstein to take him out with the Russian collusion bullshit investigation. Now that that looks weakening, plan B is to get John Kelly and Kirstjen Nielsen to come up with a bullshit immigration plan to get Trump’s base to turn on him.

    Trump’s problem is, he is not a deep thinker and does not have any principles. All he has is a bombastic personality with zero filter between his brain and his mouth. He is easily goaded and has no trouble lying through his teeth, and he is now surrounded by the swamp creatures that he promised to toss out on his campaign trail, swamp creatures that are loyal to themselves and their paymasters, the swamp kings Mike Pence and Paul Ryan. Mike Pence and Paul Ryan are the puppet masters pulling all the strings here, Trump is just the messenger. The Trump admin has been completely subsumed. Everything they do from day 1 has been Kabuki Theatre, designed to fool Trump’s base. Many have woken up. Some desperate ones like Derbyshire are still desperately clinging to hope.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  20. Wally says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Remove the ability to illegally work, end all the free stuff they get, and they have no choice but to leave or engage in crime which will eventually get them arrested.

    aka: ‘Wither on the vine’.

  21. Wally says:
    @Beckow

    That ignores the newly aligned Supreme Court.

    And the hateful, anti gentile white, Zionist Jew Ginsburg won’t last the year. Then we just pile on.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    , @Anonymous
  22. Avery says:
    @Frederick V. Reed

    {Politics is the art of the impossible. Does anyone think that America is going to deport 800,000 Dreamers? }

    Exactly.

    POTUS cannot even stop foreign people from certain Muslim countries coming into US, which is 100% his legal right: a Federal judge from Hawaii, of all places, put a stop to it for months. It had to go all the way to SCOTUS to get a _partial_ approval. The whole thing is a farce. Every time Trump tries to do something, some obscure federal judge will halt it, and then it has to wind its way all the the way to SCOTUS: it will take months for each case. They will drag it out, drag it out, until Trump is out of office. And people genuinely think that even a few thousand illegals can be deported?

    The only practical solution is to build the wall (…more or less symbolic), do whatever is possible to prevent illegal immigration, and then _drastically_ cut down legal immigration from everywhere.

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Bill Jones
  23. @Frederick V. Reed

    We conquered a continent, defeated the Axis powers, walked on the moon, won the cold war, etc.

    I am pretty sure we can send some drywall hangers back to Mexico.

  24. @anon

    So who was your deep thinking, principled candidate of choice?

    • Replies: @anon
  25. Beckow says:
    @Wally

    Possibly. The only problem is that takes a huge amount of time – so a low-level judicial ‘ruling’ can delay and in effect stop any changes for a very long time. It is a game that the liberals have mastered all over the world.

  26. KenH says:
    @Avery

    The only practical solution is to build the wall

    And the left is already prepared to file a flurry of frivolous lawsuits to delay wall construction as long as possible. And if that fails I believe there will be bureaucratic delays and sabotage to slow progress.

    The Jewish led radical left tell us that not only are border walls mean, but they don’t work (for the goyim that is). But if walls are really so worthless then they wouldn’t be opposing it so violently. They could just sit back while it’s built and watch it fail so they could tell us that they told us so.

  27. @Frederick V. Reed

    “Impossible” is the complaint of the weak-willed and innumerate. It would not at all be hard to do physically, but for that to happen humanely, it’d probably involve plenty of notice and lots of help from the governments of Mexicao and the US.

    That all aside, I find it hard to believe that you, Mr. Reed, even WORKED (for a short while) with the VDare people and didn’t pick up a thing there. Don’t your remember the 1000-odd mentions of “self-deportation” at all? What it takes is for the people in question, be they the 25-y/o teenage dreamers in question or the 25 million or so illegals that live in the shadows right out in the bright sunshine to understand that there are people that are seriously tasked with sending them home.

    One traffic stop, an application for employment, or whatever it happens to be that gets ICE to have an awareness of him, and he will be headed for detainment until there’s transportation back.

    Were I that guy, I would already be making plans to deport myself back. If you were to read VDare, in particular Mr. Allan Wall’s writings (he only spent a decade or more living in Mexico with this family), you’d know that the Mexican government was already making some plans to help the returnees. It’s all about re-unification these days.

    Hey, I’ll give kudos to the Mexican government on one big thing at least – they actually care about the Mexican people – can’t say the same thing about the American Feral Gov.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  28. @James Braxton

    AGREED

    Yep, do you know how many damn US Army vehicles there are traipsing about, which Mr. Reed rightfully complains about? Take a few percent of that cost, get a fleet of five hundred nice greyhound-style coaches or better yet, pay charter companies $500 hourly for buses and drivers. Say the average run is from far north or NE or NW, so 1500 miles each way average to be conservative. 3,000 miles / 60 mi/hr (includes stops) = 50 hours or so x $500/hr = $25,000 per run of 40 people. It’s about $700 each, say, to keep estimating conservatively.

    Now, 25,000,000 Mexicans, even if NONE of them left on their own (highly unlikely, as more like 75% of them would) and you get ~ $20,000,000,000 – $20 Billion sounds like one hell of a lot, until you look at the US gov’t $4 Trillion annual budget. That $20 Billion has been spend by the first lunch break of the congressional session, assuming they spend 200 days spending our money each year.

    Time-wise, 500 coaches total could make the run, bringing ~ 40,000 people down if making the trip twice weekly. That’s 2 million yearly, enough to make a great dent after just a few years. Oh, at the border stops, how many are there? Even if just a dozen it’s about 15-20 buses daily coming through each, say 2 hourly. They can handle it.

    BTW, once people get serious about a job, and things get in a groove, one can work out more and more efficiencies. At one point, the Ford plant in Ypsilanti, Michigan (Willow Run) was churning out one B-24 bomber EVERY HOUR. It took a long while to ramp up to that. Got another one – even though the Berlin Airlift was originally planned to just bring in food and other essentials, once the winter came the US Army (or was it already the Air Force) was flying in enough COAL to heat up the city of Berlin with it’s 2 million people at the time (I’m sure the heat wasn’t up to 70 F!) Freakin’ amazing, and they were all flying into the small Templehof air field at one plane a minute at the busy time. Templehof is gone now, as there are 2 other bigger airports.

    (as I recall, I worked this out before here on unz. Mr. Unz makes it pretty easy to do a search, I’m sure, but I’ll just let this post stand.)

  29. pyrrhus says:

    Any amnesty will prove disastrous, as usual. In fact, continued legal immigration (chain migration and every other kind) at these levels will destroy America….California is already a “rump State” which pays little attention to Federal law and proposes to make its own treaties. Trump is buying time to eliminate his Deep State enemies, but it is going to be a close run thing…..

  30. @Achmed E. Newman

    I have noticed that everyone who says that deportation is impossible (or that a wall would be too expensive) is also someone who, like Mr. Reed, welcomes the browning of America.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  31. Kenny says:

    This is the hill we live or die on, there is no way back for America if amnesty goes through.

  32. @Wally

    Remove the ability to illegally work, end all the free stuff they get, and they have no choice but to leave or engage in crime which will eventually get them arrested.

    aka: ‘Wither on the vine’.

    Also need to remove other anti-constitution attractants for illegal alien flies to the US, including especially the existing special-federal-rights-for-special people crap.

    The federal government labels peculiar special groups of people as protected class groups.

    For example, all Latinos and Hispanics in the world are a federal recognized protected class group with associated special federal rights.

    Protected class groups are also frequently referred to by democrat-neocon assholes as being collectively disadvantaged, oppressed, underprivileged, and underserved.

    The special federal rights for special people scheme was turbocharged after the Zionist coup de tat that assassinated JFK and installed arch-Zionist pig LBJ as US president.

    Democrats and neocons love illegal alien invaders because practically all illegals are a recognized federal protected class group whose vote can be reliably bought using federal taxpayer giveaways and special federal group rights.

    The US constitution commands equal protection of the Bill of Rights laws listed in the constitution, but democrats-neocons wipe their ass on such an idea.

    • Agree: Alden
  33. IvyMike says:

    Trump could end illegal immigration immediately by moving ICE assets into the cities and allowing them to raid construction sites, food processing plants, and other large employers of undocumented workers as was done for a couple years after the Reagan Amnesty. But there are no politicians willing to deprive Business of cheap exploitable labor. My fellow Americans, your government thinks you are stupid, and I agree.

    • Replies: @tjm
  34. @James Braxton

    Yeah, but I don’t know why Mr. Reed would really want that so bad. He is proud of Mexico and Mexicans to a point way out-of-hand in my opionion, but why should he care about America, besides that his daughter’s here. How’s the browning of American gonna’ help her, though? Are they all big jazz aficionados?

    I think Fred Reed honestly thinks Americans can’t do anything constructive anymore. It’s mostly true for our Feral Gov. as, for many years, that have made it a point to hire those with a can’t-do attitude (AA types, glass-ceiling busters the whole lot of gov deadbeats). However, Mr. Reed has forgotten that there are real Americans still around, and still even being born or raised, who are can-do people. When the SHTF, these people will shine, and the rest will scurry or die.

    When the SHTF there will be no siestas.

  35. @Wally

    “…end all the free stuff…”

    That’s all it would take right there. I’ve been saying so for decades.

    Apart from that, who cares if they illegally work if they can’t vote, get drivers licenses, etc. etc. AND get arrested and jailed when they commit crimes? Just be sure to deport them asap afterwards so that US taxpayers aren’t stuck with feeding, clothing and housing them. THEN, make damn good and sure that they don’t come back. Walls, snipers and mine fields come to mind.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  36. Thomm says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    A black Derbyshire who is equally brilliant and bold:

    Derbyshire’s economic views are left-wing, so that isn’t such a great thing.

  37. One quick question for our writer, Mr. Derbyshire:

    In your opinion, do you think future State of the Union reports should be given via Tweet?

    #SOTO

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  38. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Wally

    There’s no realignment. A conservative was traded for another conservative.

  39. llloyd says: • Website
    @unit472

    That’s what’s called the Ugly American.

  40. fnn says:

    A few months ago you promised us some analysis on the insect apocalypse.

  41. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @James Braxton

    Rand Paul, Pat Buchanan, Ann Coulter. All are honest, true patriots who are against more wars and illegal immigration. These are the people I trust will govern with America’s best interest at heart and are incorruptible.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  42. tjm says:
    @unit472

    BULL S*$T

    Trump has continued Obama “catch and release”, Trump has deported fewer illegals that Obama at the same point.

    You really have to be at a whole now level of stupid not to see Trump is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    Trump is a ZIONIST, period. Zionists HATE AMERICA, Zionist use immigration to destroy white America/Europe. Trump will NOT STOP IMMIGRATION< but grant amnesty.

    Stop putting America first and put away the idiotic idea that their are two parties, their is one, the Zionist neocon globalists, of which Trump is it's number one puppet.

    • Replies: @Hanoi Paris Hilton
  43. tjm says:
    @Beckow

    BULL

    That is the zionist globalist canard, just like the idea of “lesser of two evils’…

    Trump is a self proclaimed Zionists, Zionist HATE Christians, and use mass LATINO migration to destroy US.

    Trump had every right, and promised to, KILL DACA, but instead the lying sack of shit, kicked DACA to Congress knowing he would be able to late use it to grant amnesty.

    Trump, like Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, all Zionist whores, selling America down the road.

    But you idiots who consistently make excuses for weakness and cowardice, are a big part of the problem.

    TRUMP HAS DEPORTED FEWER ILLEGALS FROM MEXICO THAN HAD OBAMA AT THE SAME POINT> CHUMP is a product of Jew York City, the most anti American city in our once great country.

  44. tjm says:
    @IvyMike

    Your half right, yes, while any President could stop immigration, the idea that this is ONLY about business is truly short sighted.

    This is about destroying America, JUST LIKE IN EUROPE.

    Trump used the “wall canard”, because it is a symbol of America’s follies.

    Trump used the wall because it was great way to pit right vs left: He knows that a wall will never be built, he knows it makes great print, and knows that it would not do shit to stop the millions of illegals already here.

    Trump is a zionist puppet, and from wall street to hollywood, multiculturalism is a cancer eating away America.
    .

    • Troll: Vinteuil
    • Replies: @James Braxton
  45. @TG

    “Trump has proposed an open ended unlimited amnesty for illegal immigrants, in exchange for NOTHING of real substance. Cheap labor uber alles, anyone?”

    True, and the Trumpeteers say, happily, ” He’s offered them a deal they can’t agree to”. The democrats can agree to this deal, and if they do, they just beat Trump at his own game. The thing about 3D chess is that you have to be good at chess to start with, and you have to have an uncommonly high ability for concentration to win at it against an opponent who is also good at chess.

    I don’t have much regard for Trump’s chess prowess. If he has any, he’s been keeping it hidden thus far.

  46. Alden says:
    @Beckow

    Except during the Lincoln administration, it’s been judicial supremacy in America since 1804.

  47. @anon

    Rand Paul is a weak sister on immigration (supported the gang of eight bill in 2013) and showed in 2016 that he has no broad popularity.

    Pat Buchanan is a great American, but he made his run and is in his 80s now.

    As far as Ann Coulter goes, there is a big difference between a polemicist and a deep thinker. She has a tendency to get caught up in whatever the issue of the moment is rather than taking a long view of things. I also think you would find her strident, cat lady person would not connect with the voters. Totally not realistic.

  48. @Achmed E. Newman

    Ahaha. Good idea. That would cut down the time spent analyzing (and even reading) a SOTU bloviation. Trumps would have been something like, “Things are great. I’m a genius. Democrats want to blow foreigners. So sad for them so good for me. So much winning.”

  49. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @James Braxton

    Those who don’t agree with you will probably reply that the “we” has changed from a government of the leaders of those who made America great to a government elected by the money of lobbyists and the organised minorities of identity politics.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  50. @James Braxton

    Those who don’t agree with you will probably reply that the “we” has changed from a government of the leaders of those who made America great to a government elected by the money of lobbyists and the organised minorities of identity politics.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  51. @tjm

    President Trump gunned down the T-800 Bush-Clinton Terminator and has said “Come with me if you want to live.”

    We have no other choice than to go with him and Make America Great Again.

    The wall will get built, the illegals will get deported, and legal immigration will get cut, but he is not an emperor. It will take time and it won’t be pretty. In the meantime he needs our support.

  52. @tjm

    Yo, Mister TJ… Why keep it all bottled up? C’mon, tell us what you really think of the Jooos/Zionazis and their contemptible spineless cats paws like our President!

  53. @Wizard of Oz

    This comment thread illustrates the difficult task the president has.

    He has to walk a line between the defeatists who say that it is impossible to deport 20 million people, therefore we shouldn’t deport any, and the unreasonable ideologues who say we have to deport everyone today, no exceptions.

    Time will tell, but I believe he will thread the needle.

  54. @James Braxton

    hmmmm . . .,

    I just don’t see this happening. he has utterly caved on too many issues. despite allk te bravado, including calls for a tough stance on Iran, N. Korea, etc. He ha strayed far afield from the agenda I voted for. I am not sure I have enough irons or starch to even pretend he has much of a backbone. It pains me to say the phrase “no back bone” or a “weak backbone” But I just don’t think there is any other way to put it. And Miss Coulter is applauding, I found the content all to pandering and undermining nearly every foundational position I voted for him to press.

    No. I have to remain on the agenda I voted for. I am wedded to that should he be on cue there he has my support. But

    1. war in Syria no
    2. Advancing war for a Kurdish state, nope (we over promised)
    3. unprovoked war with N. Korea no
    4. unprovoked war with Iran no
    6 instigating another Iraqi war, no
    7. fulminating war in the Ukraine, no
    8. carte blanche passes to Israel, no
    9. failure to examine the trade policy – no
    10. immigration amnesty at the expense of US citizens, no
    11. using government spending to boost the economy and put people to wok, without first clearing the system of illegals immigrant and Visa quotas — no
    12. healthcare that uses federal money to kill children in the womb, no

    these are all the positions left bare. i am not sure what happened to him, but that is where i came in and that is where I stand. So appalled, I will probably stop volunteering to work with the local community college — it is just too humiliating to help people laugh at my expense —

    High IQ leadership on steroids, afterall he now embracing a load of think tank policies, he claimed he would clear as part of the DC swamp –

    I love WS but I love honest brokering more — by honest brokering, I mean fair dealings.

    I did not leave him — he left what he claimed he supported and not even being a situational leader can explain such a turn about. Eventually, if wants change one must stand –

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  55. @Anonymous

    None of these decisions can blamed on identity politics, which began before and most definitely when the first colonists set foot on the continent. French, British , Spanish, Portuguese, colonies, etc.

    As for putting his foot down all he need do is refuse to sign any policy that pinned any policy he rejected in the campaign — but that takes a certain level of commitment to purpose in spite of intense opposition, which I had thought he proved capable during the campaign –

    It seems not.

  56. Stealth says:

    Here’s a good idea: Let the “dreamers” stay. Instead of putting them on a path to citizenship, simply give them a lifelong permanent resident status that denies them the right to vote or bring in relatives. Of course, many of them would be weeded out by disqualifying factors, which might take care of about a third of them. The ones that get to stay should also be forever barred from engaging in any sort of formal political activity, even participation in peaceful street protests. A violation of that last rule would result in immediate deportation.

    All of this would be in exchange for effective enforcement and a sharp decrease in legal immigration.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  57. @EliteCommInc.

    Whatever you do don’t stop volunteering at the local community college. Promise us that at least.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  58. @James Braxton

    Since my taxes pay for his SS detail among other perks of office, I am supporting Trump, albeit against my will. That’s all the support he gets from me.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  59. @James Braxton

    What an interesting response. At some point self – respect may be a concern.

    No need to respond, just something for me to ponder.

    grrrrrrrrrrrr

  60. @Twodees Partain

    Fewer taxes now, thanks to the leadership of President Trump.

  61. MarkinLA says:
    @unit472

    Remember the original Gang of Eight bill? They asked McCain how many times could an illegal alien be convicted of filing false passport applications and still be eligible for amnesty under that law and he claimed he didn’t know. The answer was 2 or less.

    Now ask yourself what any law coming out of Congress will do you your idea.

  62. MarkinLA says:
    @James Braxton

    No, this is what negotiating from a position of weakness looks like. I though elections had consequence, you know like getting your constituents what they want, not handing the initiative over to your opponents so you can crow about making a deal.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  63. MarkinLA says:
    @James Braxton

    And when those Democrat Senators in red states force Schumer to take this and it is signed and we wonder how we were screwed again, what will you say?

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  64. MarkinLA says:
    @Markus Aurelius Tarkus

    The kids they anchor out can vote )and eventually sponsor their parents) until birthright citizenship is fixed.

  65. MarkinLA says:
    @Stealth

    They pump out anchor babies and get welfare for them who then go on to sponsor them when they get 18. Then those dreamers sponsor their octogenarian parents for welfare.

    Enforce the law – deports the dreamers and their parents.

    Everybody gets confused by these stupid polls. 86% of the country say let the dreamers stay. Most people don’t know what underachievers the dreamers are and what they are likely to cost the taxpayers if they are allowed to stay so they agree with what they know is the “correct” and “compassionate” answer.

    The real question is “Do you really give a damn if the Dreamers are deported”. The answer will likely be much less than 86%.

  66. @MarkinLA

    What you don’t seem to be taking in to account is that President Trump’s opponents on this issue include the leadership of both parties, the entire donor class, and the media.

    He has the people with him, which is ultimately his trump card. But he needs to stake out what will appear to most as a reasonable position.

    I think the real reform will come after the midterms when we will see that, yes, elections do have consequences.

    I don’t know what else to tell you dude. Tom Tancredo ran for President one time and didn’t exactly catch fire. There have to be some allowances for political realities.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @EliteCommInc.
  67. MarkinLA says:
    @James Braxton

    Trump has done nothing but grovel and beg for a deal when he has the cards. He can vigorously enforce the law and start deporting the Dreamers and their parents. He can make the case to the public that he was elected to do this. He doesn’t mind making appearances to brag about his tax cuts.

    Yeah, it makes him a meanie bringing up the fact that the Dreamers are a net negative for the country. Yeah, it makes him one for talking about the negative consequences of a DACA amnesty leading to keeping their parents here. Hell, it might even offend Princess Ivanka but Trump campaigned on doing exactly this.

    He can use the bully pulpit to actually make the case why ending immigration and deporting these people is good for every American to counter all the BS from the media. Instead he dances around the issue by talking about getting rid of the criminals. He lets the courts issue unconstitutional edicts instead of telling some district court judge he is not going to bother listening to some idiot and do what he should have done. The courts only have power because he lets them.

    Let there be a “constitutional crisis” over ending DACA instead of waiting for the SCOTUS to slap down some district court judge who think HE has the power to continue an unconstitutional program started by an executive order. This only hands the power to the courts who don’t have it in the first place.

    But he needs to stake out what will appear to most as a reasonable position.

    If he has the people then this is the last thing he needs to do. Nothing short of amnesty will be the “reasonable” position to the people against Trump. Something is only reasonable because most people haven’t got a clue about the issue.

  68. @James Braxton

    I remain ever hopeful . . .

    But I am not holding my breath. But I clearly understand your position. I agree that there has to be allowances for what has been a monumental opposition even from republicans. And allowances that he is out of his element and there’s a ton of nuance and what’s waht about DC that he has to learn . . . . no doubt.

    However, eventually he will have to stand . . .

    But I get you.

  69. Momus says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Desert Fox… this is your overlord…contact the mother ship immediately….

  70. KenH says:
    @MarkinLA

    Trump was supposed to be this hard ass negotiator but on immigration I’m not seeing it. So either he’s highly overrated as a negotiator or he’s a fraud and just pretended to be a far rightist on immigration to get elected.

    It looks to me like he’s adopting the losing strategy of pandering to non-whites and governing from the center probably on the advice of his many Jewish advisers. This will eventually alienate the deplorables and jeopardize his 2020 re-election bid. Why waste time voting if Trump is just going to deliver policies that we’d get with a Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney presidency?

    Trump’s policy should be deportation only. He has no authority to grant extensions or waivers for DACA recipients since Obama had no authority to enact the policy in the first place.

    If he wants to entertain pathway to citizenship for so called DREAMers then the number should be capped at 500K and contingent upon a wall (now not later) and an immediate end to chain migration, the diversity lottery and birthright citizenship. Legal immigration should be capped at 100K annually after a five or 10 year moratorium.

  71. During a telephone conversation with a friend earlier today, he offered the following (with apologies to Philip Larkin):

    “Prison for the Clintons,
    Knock RINOs flat,
    Chuck out the wetbacks -
    What about that?”

    His proposed title for the poem was “Promises, promises…”

  72. Re: direct delivery of SOTU to Congress by a sitting President, President Woodrow Wilson at the end of 1913 revived the practice of our first two Presidents, Washington and Adams. Harry Truman apparently gave all of his in person except for the last. Undoubtedly, some blanks in the record need a look-thru, but there was a sufficient return to the practice in the 20th century, so by 2018, it is not particularly rare.

  73. @MarkinLA

    He’ll say, “MAGA, MAGA, MAGA, 3D CHESS, WINNING!” and, of course, “USA USA USA!”.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  74. @Avery

    As Herr Schicklgruber is said to have said
    “How many divisions has the Pope.?”

    I can’t see Ginsburg dragging a bunch of Mexicans off a deportation bus.

  75. @Twodees Partain

    God bless President Donald Trump.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  76. ziggurat says:
    @Numinous

    According to this article, you are incorrect.

    http://www.livemint.com/Industry/vhqr8GniLuGmKe4iTpnDKK/Donald-Trump-proposes-to-end-US-visa-lottery-favours-skille.html

    US President Donald Trump has proposed to end the visa lottery system in favour of reducing backlogs of highly skilled workers, a plan which may benefit thousands of Indian IT workers who have been waiting for decades to get their green cards.

    I wish we would just let the guest-worker visas expire, with no possibilty of getting a green card. We have a job shortage, not a labor shortage. There are lots of jobs for people in India and China. It’s not cruel to let the visas expire, which would force the guest workers to return to their countries of origin, and free up jobs for Americans.

    These visas are defined as “non-immigrant” visas. They are supposedly intended to address a temporary, labor shortage. In reality, they’re intended to keep wages low, so that corporate profits can stay high. Needless to say, I’m with Derbershire and I’m against these visas.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  77. MarkinLA says:
    @ziggurat

    Without Bannon their to act as Trump’s brain he latches on to any nonsense the last guy that talked to him spews out. Since he is surrounded y globalist business types and the military he has completely forgotten the “forgotten American” he claimed to represent. He no longer talks about E-verify (business hates it) and he really isn’t going to slow down immigration in any meaningful way.

    It is too bad Trump is too stupid to see he is losing support every time he opens his mouth.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  78. @James Braxton

    Oh, yes. How COULD I have forgotten that one? /sarc

  79. @MarkinLA

    People don’t “get it.” The Democrats and especially the Senate Minority Leader won’t agree to anything (apart from a “clean” DACA/DREAM bill) because to give Mr. Trump anything, anything at all in a negotiation would be “normalizing” President Trump.

    Don’t you see? If the Democrats agree to anything close to this proposal, they would be dining with the Devil, in their view, and their Base would tear them apart. You saw what happened when Mr. Schumer gave ground on the Shutdown.

    Mr. Trump’s gambit is to be as moderate and reasonable in his proposals as far as Peoria, IL is concerned but to make it a Poison Pill. This is Wedge Issue Politics 101.

    C’mon people, after Nancy Pelosi called Donald Trump’s proposal a “whitening of America”, can she turn around now and say, “Never mind, this is a good first step, I will vote for it.” So Ms. Pelosi is going to cave and vote for what she called an outright racist proposal?

    I think this might just work, the Democrats hate the man that much.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  80. @MarkinLA

    I don’t know what is in worse shape these days, Bannon’s brain or his liver.

  81. MarkinLA says:
    @Inquiring Mind

    Except there are 10 Democrat Senators in red states or states Trump won handily. This is the crux of the issue. Everything may depend on what these 10 Senators do. These are the 10 Senators that Trump should be squeezing to get a bill or set of bills that Trump’s base wants. Trump is allowing these people an out by agreeing to his “framework” which is nothing but shit for Trump’s base.

    Trump doesn’t seem to understand that “winning” in the political world means when you have the chance to do so, grabbing the other guy by the balls as hard as you can and getting as much for your side as you can. You can also win when you are weaker by keeping the other guy from grabbing your balls and squeezing. Trump thinks giving his base next to nothing to get a deal is winning. His deal is worse than nothing.

    Winning would have been to get somebody in the House to sponsor a clean bill to get rid of the visa lottery. This POS is only supported by open borders members of Congress. Once that passes the House, squeeze those Senators in conservative states and force them to vote with Schumer or their constituents. Once you have that, go for the next low hanging fruit. Each time you get a bill passed you weaken Schumer’s ability to get “comprehensing immigration reform”.

    Do you see that Trump is turning his electoral position of strength over to Schumer. Those Democratic Senators will surely face an onslaught of calls from their constituents when this comes to a vote but they may vote for it anyway becaue of DNC money, wealthy donor promises, and the desire to get the issue off the table. Schumer may have to get other Democratic Senators to go along with them to help the electoral chances of those 10, knowing that if they lose those seats in 2018 Trump can ram through anything he wants.

    People want to believe that Trump is playing 12D chess to get those seats for 2018 but there are never any guarantees.

  82. Svigor says:

    Politics is the art of the impossible. Does anyone think that America is going to deport 800,000 Dreamers? A hundred thousand a year for eight years? Do we see any signs of this? Or twelve million illegals? A million a month for a year, or….? Birthright citizenship? How long is that going to take, assuming that the Supremes decide that it won’t take an amendment? Politics should at least be the art of the plausible.

    I almost didn’t recognize you, dotard, with the “Frederick” and the “V” and all. Clever.

    I don’t see the point of deportation. Make the criminal infiltrators so uncomfortable that they leave on their own, is my motto. Put the problematic exceptions into prison camps.

  83. I have noticed that everyone who says that deportation is impossible (or that a wall would be too expensive) is also someone who, like Mr. Reed, welcomes the browning of America.

    I am perfectly happy with the idea of removing all illegal immigrants and their foreign born offspring since it certainly would not affect me or my family or anyone I know in any manner whatsoever, however, this would be the greatest forcible movement of populations since the People of Israel left Egypt via the Red Sea, or when Nazi Germany rounded up the Jews and boarded them on trains headed for the concentration camps, so I should think there would be massive logistical problems.

    Mind you, it would create lots of jobs for Americans as concentration camp guards, bus drivers, pediatricians, and so on, so pretty good for the economy.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
  84. @Jonathan Mason

    I think America is worth the effort.

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