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Women Protest Merkel’s part in the migrant attacks
Women Protest Merkel’s part in the migrant attacks

I was in the city of Cologne just once, in 1954. I was nine years old, on my way to visit my brother, who was stationed with the British Army in Düsseldorf. Through the train window my mother pointed out the famous Cathedral (pictured right) which I recall as looking very battered still from wartime bombing damage. The Cathedral had taken fourteen hits, but somehow survived.

It may not survive much longer. What the British and American air forces failed to do, the Germans themselves may yet accomplish. With the floods of young Muslims into Germany last year, to be followed presumably by chain migration of their relations and anyone who can afford forged documents to claim a relationship, combined with the dismally low fertility rate of native Germans, Germany could be under Islamic control by the time my kids retire.

Given what Islamic fundamentalists have been doing to historic structures in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, it would be foolish to bet on Cologne Cathedral being around for another seven hundred years; unless, that is, the invaders just turn it into a mosque, like Hagia Sophia.

From the New York Times’s (belated) report:

Taking advantage of the New Year’s Eve street party, hundreds of young men … described by the authorities as having “a North African or Arabic” appearance … broke into groups and formed rings around young women, refusing to let them escape, the authorities said. Some groped victims while others stole wallets or cellphones.

Witnesses described the atmosphere around the city’s central train station as aggressive and threatening … The Cologne police added that they had received 90 complaints from victims, including one who said she had been raped. No arrests have been made.

Cologne … is among Germany’s most ethnically diverse cities, and it took in more than 10,000 refugees last year.

Reports of Attacks on Women in Germany Heighten Tension Over Migrants, by Melissa Eddy, January 5, 2016

Ah, diversity! Let’s murmur a word of thanks that the NYT at least didn’t say “vibrant.”

Note the date on that report—January 5th. Quote from the report itself:

The assaults initially were not highlighted by the police and were largely ignored by the German news media in the days afterward.

You can see that the Germans have some way to go yet towards really sophisticated reporting on multicultural crime. They told us the perps are of “North African or Arabic” appearance. When they’ve had a few more years’ experience they’ll know to totally suppress t his kind of information and just tell us, as the U.S. MSM does, that “the assailant was described as a tall man in a red jacket.”

Germany’s new batch of Muslim migrants are likewise not yet sophisticated in the ways of the West. After they’ve had a few more years’ experience of our society, they’ll know that assaulting white girls in the street is kind of crude. What you do is, catch them coming out of school around age 13 and kidnap them for sex slaves, like the Muslims of Rotherham in England. The police won’t investigate for fear of seeming racist.

That’s how it’s done, guys!

In fact, many people think they see the fundamental issue here as sexual.

I’m not talking here about the Beast with Two Backs; I’m talking about yin and yang, the female and male principles, whose interaction drives the Tao, the way things happen.

I’ve dabbled in this line of thinking myself. Three years ago I published a column titled White People are Pussies, lamenting the passivity and ethnomasochism of the British, Scandinavians, and even the Russians.

These kinds of speculations are most prominent in that corner of the Internet called the Manosphere—websites that draw on insights from evolutionary psychology to explain the behavior of women, and to teach guys how to use those insights to their own advantage in dating and mating.

They turn up elsewhere, though—for example, in Steve Sailer’s recent TakiMag column.

Steve was reviewing a book titled Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction by Philip Tetlock and Dan Gardner. Along the way, though, he gave a passing mention to Jean Raspail’ s 1973 novel The Camp of the Saints, which is about a Third World invasion of Europe. Raspail in effect was forecasting what we’ve been seeing this year in Europe. However, says Steve:

Raspail missed key aspects of what happened in 2015. He imagined that the refugees would be starving masses who overcame European resistance by their pitifulness. But instead, the invaders turned out to be strutting military-age youths with smartphones, giving Germany’s surrender a weird sexual vibe that nobody yet has explained satisfactorily even in retrospect.

That caused one of Steve’s readers to contribute the following comment, slightly edited:

The sexual appeal of strutting military age young men would be to whom? To women, both young and old. If the appeal is sexual it can’t be to anyone else. It is to women … The sexy men are invading because the women want it.

And it’s stupid but it’s not false.

When men make a mistake, they invade somewhere they should not have—due to male desires blinding their reason.

When women make a mistake, they invite someone they should not have—due to female desires blinding their reason.

The reason we have not yet seen an explanation is that we assume politics are based on male desires. And. second, women do not understand their own desires, so they would be less able to articulate this than I am. What woman would say, “I know it is stupid, but I need to see if these sexy, strong foreigners might make better lovers and rulers”?

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That got some push-back from other commenters. Some pointed out that MSM pictures of the Muslim invaders deliberately avoid showing the fit young males, preferring to focus on distressed women and drowned toddlers. You could say that’s also a yin play—an appeal to the feminine—but to a different module of the female brain.

Others wondered, as I have, looking at some of the news pictures of weedy European guys welcoming muscular male migrants, whether the appeal of those “strutting military-age youths” is entirely heterosexual. [Airbnb for refugees’ group overwhelmed by offers of help, By Jessica Elgot, Guardian, September 1 , 2015]

And then here comes columnist Fred Reed. I’ve known Fred for 15 years, since we both contributed to Steve’s HBD Yahoo group. Fred’s erratic, with a lot of swings and misses, and he’s developed an animus against me that I haven’t been able to figure out. But when he finds a sweet spot he hits the ball out of the park.

From Fred’s column at his own website—is topic is Obama’s gun-control executive orders:

I confess to a grudging admiration [for Obama]. He, belonging to one of the virile peoples—blacks, Hispanics, and Moslems—has keenly diagnosed the weakness of American society:

There is no one who will say “No.”

The Supreme Court? Nine corpses in a wax museum. Congress? If they all poisoned themselves nobody would notice. Though it would still be worth doing.

A President with brass balls—and god knows Hussein Obama has them—can do anything with an executive order. Anything. And we obey …

More correctly, the European population—pale, white, feeble things wriggling like fly grubs in the corruption of a putrefying body politic—obey. Blacks and Moslems do not allow themselves to be pushed around. They are, whatever else they are, virile. They look to be history’s winners. Though not civilization’s …

I know, [Obama] knows, we all know, that outlawing guns means disarming whites. Nobody is going to go into the depths of darkest Chicago and try to de-gun the occupants. As the looting and burning and destruction grow, as the looters and burners realize that no one is going to stop them, wise people want guns, for when. This will not have a happy ending.

Obama, in what looks like racial vengeance, brings in, as fast as he can get away with, large populations of his two ethnic groups, Africans and Mohammedans and, apparently because they are not white, Hispanics. This will have, is having, enormous consequences for the country, all brought about by one man with the will to do it. No popular vote, not a whimper from Congress. When poked, the vaunted American polity turns out to have the strength of a continental beached jellyfish …

Now I see that American whites are buying “safe rooms” … Now, who do you suppose the people in their safe rooms are afraid of? …

“Safe Rooms” are the last, pathetic, contemptible line of defense of frightened, passive white people against uncontrolled crime. [A Nation of Fly Larvae: Obama and Gun Control, FredonEverything.net, January 7, 2016VDARE.com links added]

It’s a great rant. Fred is, in fact, one of the best ranters in the business.

Are these commentators on to something? Is there a yin-yang aspect to our civilizational crisis? Are white people pussies? Or is just white men? Should we be putting testosterone in the water supply? …

serena-williams-2014-u.s.-open-tennis-tournament-in-new-york-city-1st-round_1[2]No, wait a minute, the women would drink it too, and end up looking like Serena Williams.

But to return to another woman: After the restoration of the English monarchy in 1660, Oliver Cromwell’s corpse was dug up and hung in chains, then thrown into a garbage pit.

If, fifty years from now, Germany were somehow to rid itself of the Muslim invaders and restore European civilization, I hope Angela Merkel’s corpse gets the same treatment.

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He’s had two books published by VDARE.com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and From the Dissident Right II: Essays 2013. His writings are archived at JohnDerbyshire.com.

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  1. Blobby5 says:

    Another great episode Derb, look forward to it every week.

  2. Tom_R says:

    WHO WANTS TO EXTERMINATE WHITE GERMANS?
    MERKEL HAS NO AUTHORITY TO ADMIT REFUGEES; ONLY PARLIAMENT DOES.

    Thanks for the interesting article, Sir. These attacks in Cologne are shocking, but not unexpected, as we know that most 3rd world aliens are crooks, criminals, rapists and murderers. But the worse is yet to come.

    I think to blame the German women for this or to call Obama virile are rather superficial statements, because what the reason for the alien invasion is complex and systemic and is most likely an engineered plan to destroy white Germans using their proxy in the illegal German govt. So who hates white Germans so much and wants to exterminate them? The answer, of course, is the Judaists.

    As an example:

    Who gave one person (Chancellor) power to allow so many aliens in into Germany? How does the German parliament allow one person to decide? If they did not do that, then the alien invasion is clearly illegal and the aliens deported back and Angela Merkel must be tried for her crimes.

    But, if the parliament really did that, who forced them to pass such a law and vest the Chancellor (a well known Jewish puppet) with unlimited power to import an unlimited number of aliens? The parliament must act immediately and repeal such law and take away such power from the hands of one person and make it so the entire parliament must decide immigration issues. They must make a law that admitting any foreigner requires approval of each and every member of the parliament, or, even better, each and every citizen.

    Also, who fabricated the fake document called the “Basic Law” under which this present govt. is based? This bogus “Basic Law” is NOT the constitution, was never ratified by the people, was temporary and has already expired. This Basic law and this “Federal Constitutional Court” are therefore unconstitutional and therefore illegal and null and void:

    http://www.rense.com/general69/germany.htm

    The criminals who run the bogus “Federal Constitutional Court” keep illegally banning patriotic parties and other rightist parties.

    So the poor German people must rise up, ban immigration and deport all these aliens, remove Merkel and her gang members from power and try her for crimes against humanity.

    Also, Germany must institute national referenda. See Citizens National Initiative For Democracy: ncid.us

  3. Corvinus says:

    “Does that mean an invasion of these Muslims is appealing to women? The smart answer seems to be No. But if the sexual appeal is not to women, then there is no sexual appeal, but we know and we feel there is a sexual appeal. Therefore the correct answer has to be YES.

    The assumption, of course, is that native women are 1) lacking in sexual desire from native men and 2) are consistently and perpetually sexually aroused by non-native men within in their purview.

    “And the smart answer has to be wrong. The sexy men are invading because the women want it.”

    Test this assertion. Create a survey designed for women to take, focusing on questions regarding attraction toward men in and out of their racial, ethnic, and religious grouping.

    “When men make a mistake, they invade somewhere they should not have—due to male desires blinding their reason.”**

    Like white Christian males invading the Americas and Africa?

    Now, in all seriousness, the person here is stating an opinion without even remotely offering any context or background information. What “mistake” is men making? Is the situation actually an “invasion”? How do we know it is “male desires blinding their reason”?

    “When women make a mistake, they invite someone they should not have—due to female desires blinding their reason.”**

    And how are German women “making a mistake? How do we know they are “inviting someone they should not have”? What are these “female desires blinding their reason”?

    **Making generalization after generalization demands explanation and insight. Offer it, sport.

    And, a classic from Derb–“This is from another report out of NPR, National Public Radio. Yes, I know it’s a Cultural Marxist outlet; but Mrs. Derbyshire has it on for background when she’s making dinner, and I can’t help but hear it.”

    So, put your foot down and tell your non-white wife to turn it off and put something else on. Or are you a “weak white male”?

  4. Tiny Duck says:

    All this “analysis of the situation in Europe is a whole lot of nothing. Blah blah blah multiculturalism blah blah SJW blah blah globalist blah blah blah.

    I expect nothing less from the yawning intellectual and moral and political abyss of rape culture. I mean sure you guys make a bit of noise implying you’re against mass rapes but really you’re just against Muslims committing them or-Muslims not committing them-for that matter.

    And what’s your stance on feminism or women in general I wonder? Somehow I don’t think its any more progressive than conservative than Islamic culture. In fact conservative Islamic culture is almost the same as conservative western culture when it comes to issues like gays women human rights ethics torture war etc….

    You are all extremists you are all radicals and Trump is nothing more than an American jihadist trying to radicalize the whining and insipid angry white males. at least when the actual jihadi do the same for Muslims usually those Muslims have something more than first world problems to complain about.

  5. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Virility does not seem to be the issue, but it shows the limitations of looking at this from a materialistic perspective. If you’re a materialist, then only genes, hormones like testosterone, innate characteristics, or similar material factors can possible account for the seeming loss of virility of Europeans – typical materialist solution = put testosterone in the water.

    Yet even from a materialist perspective, it is impossible that European males can have changed so dramatically in so few generations. Furthermore, Asian who are widely considered to be effeminate and intrinsically non-virile peoples among those who think things like testosterone and hormones and other material factors are the most important factors that account for personality, yet Asians – the least virile people from a materialist perspective – have no trouble showing the “back bone” to defend themselves, stand up for themsleves, etc.

    Yet despite the incoherence and self-contradictions of the materialist viewpoint, they seem at a loss to offer different explanations because non-materialist explanations are a priori ruled out. So they stumble in the dark saying silly, incoherent things (Europeans are wimps because of less testosterone, but Asians with even less testosterone have no problem standing up for their culture and people, etc etc – you get the picture)

    The answers aren’t hard to come by. Muslims are religious, Europeans are materialist hedonists whose main concern is to maximize pleasure – how would it be possible for Europeans to resist? The crisis is one of motivation – not virility. Even today, in Holland or Germany, local men are much larger and more muscular than the “virile” Muslims, and American white men are also much more formidable than Hispanics, who are physically small and often hairless and effeminate looking.

    Derbyshire is a secular materialist whose emotions and sentiments have not caught up with his rational brain – in other words his emotions contradict his world view. As a secular materialist, he cannot have any reason to sacrifice short term hedonic pleasure to fight Muslims and other invaders, yet he has sentimentally kept enough of his religious outlook to wish to do so. Derbyshire is a “transitional” generation – often, the first generation that leaves religion keeps enough social, intellectual, and moral capital to avoid the worst kinds of degeneration.

  6. actually the TFR in Germany has risen in 2015 for the fourth successive year.

    • Replies: @AnalogMan
    , @RadicalCenter
  7. Rich says:

    The issue has absolutely nothing to do with “virility.” It has to do with the rich looking for a cheap source of labor. Using the old Roman method of divide and conquer, they bring in a foreign population that the indigenous population won’t support, and use them as near slave labor. It’s been done in the US for years. In the US, however, immigrants like the Jews, Italians, Poles, etc. were able to build better lives for themselves and and in the case of American Jews supplant the original WASP rulers. The elites hope low IQ Muslims in Europe and the low IQ Hispanics in the US can be used as slave labor for generations. They (the elites), are pretty smart people, but I’m not sure they’ve thought this out completely.

    • Replies: @BS Inc.
  8. BS Inc. says:
    @Rich

    ” The elites hope low IQ Muslims in Europe and the low IQ Hispanics in the US can be used as slave labor for generations.”

    I hear this a lot, but the elite are surely aware that low-IQ labor is going the way of the horse and buggy. Why import it when there is more than enough available here already and the automated replacements for that type of labor are getting more sophisticated every day?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  9. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website

    Notice that the most self-indulgent, self-centered, egotistical, and contemptuous people tend to be ‘progressive’. They want to hang with the ‘best’ people who happen to be most narcissistic and consider themselves as ‘hip’ and ‘cool’.

    If the ‘left’ is about caring for the poor masses, why are so many ‘progressives’ obsessed with the self-obsessed, with those with power, money, privilege, and etc?
    I mean you don’t end up writing for the NYT, Washington Post, or New Yorker by wanting to be one with the common man. You don’t get to work in Hollywood or MTV or some such by embracing everyday people.

    In their personal lives, these so-called progs wouldn’t give ordinary ‘loser’ folks the time of day. They only want to go to best schools, go to the most trendy and fashionable places. They only want to hang with the ‘best’ kind of people. In their personal lives, they look down on most people as losers. They are attention-hogs and hang with other attention-hogs.

    Since they cannot stand ordinary people on the personal level, they pretend to care about some abstract notion of ‘humanity’.
    Or worse, their sense of compassion is dictated by the Cult of the Cool.
    They care far more about ‘cool’ groups and sneer and ignore ‘uncool’ groups.

    So, there’s all this love for homos since homos are big in fashion and entertainment. But no love for incest-sexuals who are deemed uncool.
    There’s all this love for Negroes(at least from a distance) cuz Negroes are big in pop music and sports. But no love for the store owner victim of Michael Brown, the so-called gentle giant. Even after his store got smashed, who gave a damn?
    So, there’s all this love for Jews cuz they are funny but no love for Muslims whose lives have been smashed by US foreign policy controlled by globo-Zionists.

    Cult of the Cool leads to the Tribalism of Compassion. Instead of universal compassion for all people, most Progs invest most of their ‘compassion’ with the favored groups, even if such selective compassion turns a blind eye to the victims of that favored group.

    ‘Progressive globalism’ or Proglob is totally phony.

    Global sympathy and compassion are dictated by the Tyranny of the Cool. In our post- and anti-humanist world of capitalist-consumerism, the human worth is defined by the cult of the cool. Jewish, Homo, and Black Lives Matter. But the rest? Not so much.

    And this is why so many groups are eager to appear cool. Unless they have the cachet of cool, no one will give a crap about them no matter how much they suffer. They sense that the ONLY WAY they can garner some sympathy is to win some ‘cool’ points.

    Now, of course, proglobs will say it is wrong to modulate compassion on the basis of coolery. They will say compassion should be about equal sympathy for all suffering people anywhere around the globe.
    But never judge people by what they say. Judge them by what they do, and in their actual behavior, their compassion is largely determined and directed by the cult of the cool.

    So, ‘cool’ groups get more sympathy than ‘uncool’ groups. Because the Tibetans have the colorful Dalai and Hollywood celebrities to represent them, they get some sympathy while ‘uncool’ Uighurs in Xinjiang get none.

    For so many decades, Palestinians got no sympathy cuz they were seen as uncool. In contrast, Jews were loved for their humor, wit, wealth, talent, and brilliance. So, one dead Jew got 1000x the sympathy of 1000 dead Palestinians.
    If Palestinians have been getting a little more sympathy today, it’s because ‘cool’ rock stars like Roger Waters have been on their side.

    And blacks can smash and burn down entire neighborhoods. They still get the sympathy while their victims get nothing since their victims — ‘white trash’, Arabs, Asians, and Mexicans — are deemed uncool. Blacks are ‘cool’ cuz of sports, music, and comedy.

    A truly moral order resists the tyranny of the cool and judges people on the basis of flesh and blood. True morality favors substance over style, but the tyranny of the cool dictates that the ‘cool’ groups deserve more sympathy while ‘uncool’ people should be ignored. In our culture saturated with celebrities, pop stars, narcissists, egotists, and megalomaniacs, why should such a moral value system surprise us?

    In the past, those resisting tyranny or oppression made their case on moral humanistic grounds. Nowadays, it’s all about the image, the style, the marketability. No matter how much a people suffer, if they cannot be spun as ‘cool’, they get no sympathy.
    But a people with ‘cool’ factor get tons of sympathy even when they no longer need any. Israel is a rich nation, a superpower in the Middle East. But it gets all the sympathy from the US. But how much sympathy was there for 300,000 Iraqi women and children who were starved to death during US sanctions?

    To play the game of the Tyranny of the Cool to garner sympathy for your people is to play by the rules of the globalist oppressors who judge everything according to image and style. And they can make a people ‘cool’ or ‘uncool’ with their control of the media.
    So, we are told homos are sooooo cool but Russians are cool for not allowing massive homo parades in Red Square that is used to commemorate the 27 million dead in the Great Patriotic War.

    To fight tyranny, one must resist the Cult of the Cool for it controls the politics of sympathy on the basis of style and image. Do we really want to live in a world where some people are deemed more worthy of life, happiness, and justice because they are ‘cool’ while others should be ignored and neglected cuz they are ‘uncool’?

    In the case of Europe, we have some serious schizo stuff happening.

    When Muslims and Arabs are in their homelands, they are seen as ‘uncool’ as the West finds Arabs and Muslims to be culturally zero.
    But when these people arrive in the EU, they are automatically ‘cool’ because the Cult of PC and Multi-Culturalism worships ‘diversity’ as so cool.

    So, the most uncool people(who could be bombed into the stone age for all we care) suddenly become the most cool people who must be embraced and coddled. When Arabs and Muslims are the Middle East, who cares if 100,00os or even millions get killed or displaced by Western foreign policy dominated by Jews?
    But when they make it to the West, by golly, they are holy ‘refugees’ and that is ‘so cool’ since ‘European values’ are all about ‘inclusion’ of newcomers, especially non-whites.

    Tyranny of the Cool is the Tyranny of the Fool.

    And people on the Alt Right need to pay attention cuz, as Charles Murray’s COMING APART has shown, so many ‘uncool’ poor whites have lost their way and are dying tragically. There needs to be moral leadership based on humanism on a national scale.

    There was a time when humanity was valued in a different way:

    • Agree: dfordoom
  10. Daniel H says:

    >>>…unless, that is, the invaders just turn it into a mosque, like Hagia Sophia.

    Those towers will serve as suitable minarets. Turks, having no talent for architecture, ruined the sublime majesty of Sancta Sophia with those four perimeter minarets.

    • Replies: @Montefrío
  11. AnalogMan says:
    @Erik Sieven

    Possibly due to annually increasing immigrant populations?

  12. @Anonymous

    You’re 100% right of course, and Derbyshire and Sailer are a couple of spiritually spavined fruitcakes who have no realistic solutions to offer.

    I am freaking sick and tired of pseudo-scientific horseshit like “evolutionary psychology” and “the Manosphere” tainting discussion of this vitally important issue.

    Do you, John Derbyshire, really think that this is all happening because German girls are getting their panties wet over a bunch of snotty Syrian doofuses? That’s ridiculous. In fact, it’s beyond ridiculous. It’s moronic, it’s stupid, and it’s false.

    Where are these women? Show me these German girls who harbor a secret fascination with Middle Eastern idiots. Go ahead and explain to me how, compelled by forces they can neither control nor understand, they simply must jump into bed with backward, barely-literate desert rats, and then explain to me how this desire somehow translates into the complex political actions undertaken by Germany to actually bring the foreigners in.

    Mathew2 has already indicated some of the real forces at work here, and there is no need for e to type what he said again, only to second it. But the sooner the Sailerites and PUAs are torched out of the alt-right, the better.

  13. helena says:
    @Priss Factor

    “Since they cannot stand ordinary people on the personal level, they pretend to care about some abstract notion of ‘humanity’.” .

    Agree.

    I listen to James O’Brien [LBC fm97.3] in the mornings. He’s an open borders-liberal catholic (friends with JC editor though) and his preferred description of ordinary folk standing up for themselves is ‘knuckle-dragger’ and ‘bottom-feeder’, and he likes to refer to Nigel Farage as ‘fish-faced’. I mean, can one imagine such insults being allowed in any other context these days? How has he not been charged with hate speech? Truly shocking.

    His analysis of Cologne was to compare the fraction of immigrants involved in Cologne rapes (something like 0.01%) with the frequency of rape (apparently 11 per hour) in, I think, Britain. (and therefore what racist people are really upset about vis cologne is not rape but skin colour!)

    And that’s a huge part of the problem – liberals simply refuse to use statistics in any meaningful way because they have a relativist philosophy.

  14. helena says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I think you’re being a bit harsh. What is happening is actually quite complex because in the past peoples have conquered other peoples because of advanced technology. So this is a new cultural development and there surely are many lines of argument about what how and why. I was shocked when I first read Heartiste, but there are some underlying truths that it has usefully brought into the debate. Likewise HBD; it’s not perfect but it gets the brain juices flowing. Derb and Sailer are journalists; other people have different roles – politics, direct action, lobbying etc. After reading some of these analyses I have been able to understand my daily life better; for instance I really do see what seems to be a ‘trend’ of east euro women with black boyfriends. Maybe it’s a way of negotiating their immigrant experience; maybe it’s not just lust but a feeling that in a fairly hostile multi-cult society, it’s an advantage to have a boyfriend who won’t take sh* from the society. I’ve also noticed groups of young boys with whites a minority in the group acting the same way as the rest of the group – quite wildly. Are the wilder-type whites attracted to black groups of friends or does the demographic ratio require whites to liven up their behaviour to fit in?

    Anyway, Mathew2 has confused the word virility with libido so his argument makes no sense.
    “The crisis is one of motivation – not virility.”
    The first meaning of Virility is ‘mainly character, vigor or spirit’. Spirit is motivation. White men have lost spirit. Why? See Priss’s comment.

    • Replies: @Bill
  15. “The answers aren’t hard to come by. Muslims are religious, Europeans are materialist hedonists whose main concern is to maximize pleasure – how would it be possible for Europeans to resist? The crisis is one of motivation – not virility. Even today, in Holland or Germany, local men are much larger and more muscular than the “virile” Muslims, and American white men are also much more formidable than Hispanics, who are physically small and often hairless and effeminate looking.”

    East Asians are just as materialistic and atheistic as whites (and significantly less religious than Americans) – but they still have the good sense to keep a low profile and close their borders. It isn’t about religion or virility, but about white individualism (run amok) complacency and xenophilia. Whites aren’t scared enough about potentially dangerous foreigners and they no longer see individuals as belonging to particular races and cultures. It’s a mixture of white evo psychology, economics, and political ideology.

    The answer to this problem (as Trump is starting to show) is to accept that the right is very ideologically diverse and divided and create a big populist, post-liberal tent around unifying issues – especially the right of nations to come up with their own pragmatic solutions to unwanted immigration.

    As Marine Le Pen points out, the core ideological divide in the West is now between particularists and globalists, and it’s time to start flipping the bird at the extreme globalists.

  16. @Anonymous

    “Yet even from a materialist perspective, it is impossible that European males can have changed so dramatically in so few generations.”

    I agree with you that the change has not been material, but is, if not spiritual, cultural. The Germans, whom Hitler hoped to exalt into his version of Nietzsche’s “supermen,” have come now to resemble Nietzsche’s “last man” instead. This is specifically the result of the last 70 years during which Germans have been taught that they are a “Tätervolk” responsible for Hitler, and that they must accordingly be ashamed of their nationality rather than comfortable with it – much less, proud of it. This is an especially virulent strain of the “white guilt” that leftists have sought to inculcate in all peoples of European descent, wherever they may be settled.

    When I read the reports of the Muslim immigrants’ sexual assaults on German women, the first thing I thought was that had such outrages taken place in nineteenth-century America, there would shortly have been Muslims dangling from every tree or lamppost.

    Germany, also, had its own tradition of vigilantism. Cologne is in the state of North Rhine – Westphalia. Westphalia had what amounted to an institutionalized system of lynch law through the Vehmic courts, which were disestablished only in the early 19th century. More recently, the Freikorps of immediate post-WWI Germany rather successfully extirpated the communists that briefly set up rump soviets in various German cities.

    Yet the will to defend the social order is completely absent today, not only in Germany, but also in other European countries and to a great extent in the United States. Where has all the gumption gone? Where are the snows of yesteryear?

  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    If, fifty years from now, Germany were somehow to rid itself of the Muslim invaders and restore European civilization

    The issue is not that Germans are going to be turned into a minority by the Muslims replacing them. Instead what will happen over the course of the century is the millions of Muslims brought into Germany will mix with Germans creating a changed German race.

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
  18. Not sure if I agree with everything here. I have close friends in Germany and they are telling me that after Cologne became news, the women are TERRIFIED.

    More please!

    • Replies: @JustJeff
    , @Talha
  19. @Erik Sieven

    Great if it has risen recently. Source?

    But that’s a national rate, right? What’s the rate for actual white Germans, compared to Turks? I bet you’ll find that the Turks have a higher TFR than the Germans, AND that the Germans’ TFR is still below replacement level.

    This is not good news for anyone except bigots who hate Germans and want them to suffer and disappear. Please, Germans, wake up and defend yourselves.

  20. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Since cell phone cameras are everywhere and so are CCTV pods, where is the videos of these ‘rapes?’

    Or is this another Zionist enterprise to conflate what Apartheid Israel is doing to Palestinians into a cause that will enrage us white folks to keep demanding that the West keep killing Iraqis, Syrians and Libyans so Israel can expand into ‘Eretz Israel?’

    • Replies: @Talha
  21. rvg says:

    A giant problem of the alt right is that white men and women have diverging interests when it comes to pet concerns and perceptions of threats, white men are more concerned by blacks, arabs and muslims, while white women find Asian women to be much more of the threat (a look at a street in Vancouver will apprise you of this), and unlike with white men black men actually are nice to white women and are usually quite charming, at least initially. Plus blacks are talented with music and a lot more women than men are into things like art. I mean look at a street in London and you see a lot of beautiful white women with African or Pakistani lovers.

  22. rvg says:

    Another thing is that since so many white men are taken by Asians, what do you want the white women to do aside from having sex with blacks and arabs? Turn lesbian or bi? Why is the edit window so short.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  23. The migrants are just Colognisers. Or Colognists.

  24. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website

    It is the Reckoning.

    This is the result of the Safe Ho Paradox.

    Traditionally, the world was a dangerous place. Women needed to be protected by the men. Consider SEVEN SAMURAI where farmers try to protect their women from bandits. They hire samurai but worry that the samurai might take advantage. Lucky for them, their story was told by prudish Kurosawa who didn’t go for hanky panky characters. If the director had been Imamura…

    Anyway, consider all those Westerns. White men must protect the womenfolk from red childish savages.
    And Chinese still feel bad cuz they failed to save their women from the hornball Japanese dwarfs in Nanking.

    In all societies, there was the theme of men protecting womenfolk from outsiders, foreigners, and childish savages. And women were frightened and sought such protection.

    And when the world was full of dangers, women understood the need for their men to be protective. Women appreciated the will and determination of the men to guard their well-being.

    But then, the modern west became safer and safer with (1) better laws (2) better policing (3) better manners (4) rise of gentleman ideals (5) better technology.
    So, women no longer needed the overt protection of men. They could take their safety for granted in an advanced world. Most of their own men were well-behaved and those who got out of line were punished by the system.
    Under this climate, white women began to see white male protectiveness as archaic, outdated, possessive, overbearing, repressive, and stifling. It seemed to be less about keeping women safe than restricting their freedom, esp sexual freedom with fun ‘bad boys’ or men of other races, esp the Negroes for whom white women developed jungalo fever.

    If indeed the world was dangerous for white women, they would run for protection to white men, but the world created by white men is a heaven for white women where most are safe and free.

    Now, given that white men did the most to make a safe world for white women, you would think white women would be appreciative and grateful to white men. And for a time, this was so. The first wave feminism was NOT anti-white male. The great Margaret Sanger pushed birth control policies to keep down the darkie population. Her views were in line with Lothrop Stoddard’s RISING TIDE OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.

    And plenty of white women rooted for white men to whup Jack Johnson’s black ass and were sad they couldn’t. And plenty of white women were happy to see the white heroes come to the rescue of white women in the great race-ist epic BIRTH OF A NATION.

    But as time passed, a bunch of things happened.

    [MORE]

    (1) With more safety and freedom, white women just took their safety for granted. And white male concerns about their safety — usually from fathers — sounded repressive and stifling.
    Also, with contraceptives, the danger of pregnancy was less dire than in the past.

    (2) Rise of Jewish power subverted the very notion of the virtue of a race protecting their own women(at least among whites). It was seen as ‘racist’ and ‘patriarchal’ in its anti-miscegenationist overtones. After all, one of the themes of the Nazis was to protect German women from Nibelungenish Jews like in the film JEW SUSS. Also, in the final stage of WWII, mass rape of German women was seen as like corrective justice. Evil Nazi German men rendered helpless as Soviets raped millions of German women was seen as just desserts by Russians and Jews. And US reduced Japan into a whore nation for US GIs. So, sexual conquest by the Allies over Axis powers was seen as good.

    In time, this logic would come to the US. Jewish radicals and blacks thought raping white women would be corrective justice, like in Eldridge Cleaver’s A**hole on Ice. Or, it was even better to have white women freely choose to go to black men perceived to be superior to white men. With black domination of sports and pop music, this has become a reality. And Jews relish it as collective and corrective punishment on white gentiles who had tormented Jews for so long. Jews push interracism through pop music, stuff like Bella and bulldogs, new Star Wars movie, the new Lancelot TV show with a Negro knight boffing a white woman, etc.
    Jews want white American male to be totally broken in manly pride like German men were during the final stage of WWII when total hell broke loose thru massive rapes.
    Also, as so many Jewish men lust after blonde shikses in PORTNOIC fashion, the idea of white males protecting their women is awfully frustrating and hateful to Jewish men. It’s like a brick wall that has to be broken. Think of Heartbreak Kid. The brick wall is a prick wall. Jews wanna swing their clubs and win in pooter golf.

    (3) New feminism came to be dominated by Jewish women, and they had a hankering for shiksons. While woody allen was starring in movies with shikses, Barbra Streisand was starring in movies with shiksons like Robert Redford and Ryan O Neal. Also, as jewish girls envied white girls, they hoped that white beauty would become muddied through race-mixing. Janis Ian wrote an anthem of interracism Society’s Child:

    And her song 17 perfectly encapsulates Jewish female neurosis.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhFnOAwr96o

    Also, as feminism united with people-of-color ‘victim’ groups, it created the impression that non-whites and white women(and homos increasingly as well) were all in the same boat as fellow comrades resisting white male power. So, all these groups supposedly had most to fear from white males.
    White females could afford to feel this way since most of the didn’t have to deal with non-white communities. They could just idealize non-white communities as abstractions. Even if white males were more enlightened than men of other races, white females grew up under white fathers and had arguments with white husbands and had to deal with white male bosses. So, based on their narrow experiences and the narcissism of small differences, white women saw white males as the worst oppressor since that was the ONLY power they came in contact with. Even if one’s father was generally permissive, he might ground you or tell you not to date someone, and that could feel like OPPRESSION(esp if you never experienced real oppression).
    Since you only experienced white male power(even if enlightened), you might think that non-whites are your allies against this power, when in truth your white female power is the product of white male power and its achievements in governance and values.

    (4) As anti-‘racism’ became the #1 theme of late Liberalism, it no longer became fashionable for white men to be protective of their women. It was seen as a ploy to keep away black men away from white women and deny the white women the fuller pleasure of going with the Negro as the superior male. According to this narrative, black men are gentle giants who only wanna spread their love and white women are deserving of being liberated from flabby white dorks who can no longer satisfy the white ho who, having seen NFL and listened to rap, must go with the Negro.

    Anti-‘racism’ said that white male fear-mongering about bad black men was just a deceitful scare tactic to keep white women away from the Negro. There was nothing to fear from the Negro. BIRTH OF A NATION was just a paranoid fantasy. It’s like what the white southern girl says in Paul Mazursky’s NEXT STOP GREENWICH VILLAGE. Her daddy done warn her that Negroes be too damn big, but that’s why she loves them.

    The idea that white males pose the greatest threat to white females became such a truism in ‘progressivism’ that in movies like MISSISSIPPI BURNING and FRIED GREEN TOMATOES, we see battered white women siding with noble saintly Negroes to fight the evil white male. This is how Jews want white women to see white men.
    And this bug spread to UK as well. The reason for the silence about Rotherham rapes was because all those white girls were abused by non-white men. It violated the Narrative.
    White girls are supposed to see white men as villains and see non-white men as saviors, allies, and protectors. It’s like in EVENT HORIZON. White woman sides with noble Negroes against evil white males.

    It became the reverse of the traditional view of white men protecting white women from childish darky savages. According to the PC Jewish Narrative, white females are most oppressed by white males and must seek alliance with or protection of darky men.
    Or, a twist of the narrative says that white women do have it good under white males, and therefor they must separate themselves from evil white male privilege than participate with it.

    (5) Another reason why white women have turned against white men is more primal. Women like winners and protectors. White males failed to protect their own prestige and honor. They allowed themselves to be outwitted by Jews and outmuscled by Negroes.
    In the past, being with white men felt like being with the best in the world.
    But now, white males look like cuckish saps next to Jews and loser dorks next to Negroes.
    White males have lost championship status as they are deemed inferior to blacks in sports and dance inferior to fruiters in style, and inferior to Jews in wit.

    Even though Jews, homos, and fruiters are ostensibly favored for their noble victim-hood, it really has to do with their victor-hood in the hottest fields. Would Chelsea Clinto have married a poor Injun or Mexer out of compassion? She married a Jew cuz he’s rich as hell.
    Are all those white boys and white girls worshiping black singers and athletes out of compassion for pitiful black victimhood? No, the passions are more primal. But since we live in a PC world, even the worship of power is spun as admiration of noble powerlessness.
    Now, suppose Jews have an IQ of 80 and suppose, since the end of WWII and Holocaust, they have no power and influence over anything. Would people be paying much attention to the Jews or the Holocaust?
    Suppose blacks are all tubby weaklings with no rhythm and muscle. Would we be so obsessed about blacks and slavery? No.
    In truth, our main obsession with Jews, homos, and Negroes has to with their current power in money, sports, music, and entertainment. But since the main religion is the holiness of victimhood, the overwhelming favoritism for those groups is spun into victim narratives.

    Anyway, all the contradictions that have built up over the years are finally blowing up.

    White females were taught to see white males as the main threat and to see non-white males as the main allies. White women were told to regard white male protectiveness as repressive, stuffy, and condescending–restrictive of white female freedom. White women were encouraged to be supportive of disenfranchised non-white men from the tyranny of evil white men.
    And white males were taught to be non-protective of their own women since protectiveness would make them like the white knights in BIRTH OF A NATION or Ethan Edwards in THE SEARCHERS. I mean how dare they? That’s old way of thinking. That is just scare-mongering to prevent sexual freedom among white women and too deny non-white women acess to white women. It is ‘racist’ and ‘sexist’. It denies free sex across races and it sees women as weak helpless creatures in need of protection.

    Well, given all these dogmas and pressures, much of Germany was paralyzed on New Years Eve. German men are not supposed to feel protective of their women. German women are supposed to see non-white men as their allies and see white German men as the main enemy.
    So, when non-white men attacked white women, the latter couldn’t make sense of what was happening and white men didn’t step into action since such action may be ‘racist’ and ‘sexist’.

    Screwy world.

    • Replies: @Bill
  25. alexander says:
    @Priss Factor

    Dear Priss,

    Wow, that was one of the coolest comments I have read in a long time. You make some very cool observations, Priss. Very cool.

    and the point about “proglob”……icy….icy cool.

    So cool, in fact, I will have to call it “Prisscool “….or maybe it was so icy…icy…to be precise…I would have to call it “Priss-ice”.

    Ice…ice….baby….Priss-ice.

  26. All these articles and comments about German women secretly (or not) desiring virile ‘Syrian’ men reveal more about the author’s and commentator’s obsessions than anything else.

    Firstly, most women prefer a mate who is at least their equal, educationally speaking, so this would rule out quite a few native Germans let alone the uneducated hordes. Secondly women prefer their men to be taller than them and since German women are of an above average height and the ‘Syrians’ are of below average height, this would further reduce the pool of attractive mates. Thirdly if German women had MENA fever you would expect Turkish/German pairing would be pretty high. And I’m not so sure it is.

    The German welcome was about many things. Historic guilt, years of post-modernist theories in schools and within government, apathy from the mainstream and the demoralization of the right. This Christopher Caldwell (says wikipedia) quote seems to sum things up pretty well: “When an insecure, malleable, relativistic culture meets a culture that is anchored, confident, and strengthened by common doctrines it is generally the former that changes to suit the latter.”

    • Replies: @Bill
  27. @Anonymous

    no. There will be no “changed German race”. The purpose of Judeo-Globalization, as any number of public statements by Jews from Sontag to Soros have made clear, is the physical extermination of the entire White Race…in Europe, from the Urals to Britain, and in North America. Gradually (and now more rapidly) overwhelmed by an open-borders Rising Tide of Color and, when reduced to a sufficiently small minority, quickly exterminated. The only real fly in this kosher ointment is the enormous debt-overhang involved in buying consent along the way. By and by, that overhang is going to fall on someone. And it may possibly be on the Jews themselves

  28. @Tiny Duck

    And what’s your stance on feminism or women in general I wonder?

    Our position is that feminism must be killed dead forever and a stake driven through its heart. It is an ideology of death and sterility. It will never survive in any case. If Western Civilization is to survive we will have to of necessity destroy feminism as one of the first orders of business. If it does not survive, then the status of women will revert to that seen in Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

    Re women, we like them a lot. This is why unlike feminists we are shocked and horrified by the scenes of rape, murder and abuse unfolding across Europe.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  29. I am surprised that neither the hypernumerate JD nor any comments noted that the idea that Europeans will but Muslims won’t allow themselves to be pushed around is an ahistorical and currently useless diagnostic statement without mention of the demographics. That is, specifically, the prevalence of the young and vigorous amongst the Muslims in question and the prevalence of the middle aged, elderly and just plain cautious and settled amongst the existing citizens of Europe’s welfare states.

    In Muslim tyrannies and dictatorships the only Muslims not allowing themselves to be pushed round were those with weapons.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  30. B.R. says:
    @Anonymous

    Yet even from a materialist perspeYet even from a materialist perspective, it is impossible that European males can have changed so dramatically in so few generations.

    There has been a drop in testosterone levels in men since mid 1980’s or so.
    At least 20%, maybe 25%. That is what is causing the male infertility crisis.

    In all developed countries, at least. Cause unclear.

  31. Renoman says:

    One day soon you’re gonna realize
    That the leaders of the Country are tellin you lies
    That they sold it all and they sold it cheap
    And the put it in their pockets cause you were weak
    And they’re gonna get away ya they’re getting away
    And they really don’t give a damn what you say.

  32. kiismerh says:

    No question Merkel looked like an old sex-tourist while posing for selfies with migrants. She can’t be that stupid though not to see the harm see is doing. The most likely explanation is still what is usually the case with politicians. The Jews have some dirt on her and she is blackmailed to further dilute the white population in Europe. As it is known she was a communist youth group secretary for agitation and propaganda a role she was trying to hide. Who knows what else is there known only by a handful of people?

    • Replies: @Milo Minderbinder
  33. Rurik says:
    @Tiny Duck

    I expect nothing less from the yawning intellectual and moral and political abyss of rape culture.

    I remember not long ago when it was Lebanese young men who’re systematically gang rapping young Australian girls. At first the feminists were livid when they heard of systematic gang rapes, and they howled their sanctimonious indignation at these “men”!

    But then as soon as it became widely known that the rapes were being committed by swarthy immigrants with a contempt for Australian culture and people, the ugly feminists got right in bed with the rapists and seemed to consider the honor and sanctity of the bodies (temples) of young Australian girls as just as contemptible and fetid as the rapists themselves considered these girls. Especially when the Australian men became outraged by it. Then the feminists actually became apologists for the rapists. They began haranguing with a campaign suggesting that it was all just a “cultural misunderstanding”.

    There is nothing more hideous than a frothing, fat, ugly feminist- who’re so reviled by healthy white men that they’re become pathological grotesqueries on two hefty legs. And I suspect the thing that pisses them off to the point of hysterics, is that not even the dusky rapists would touch them for a visa and residency permit.

  34. JustJeff says:
    @Charles Martel

    Terrified? Wow just wow. What a bunch of racists. Don’t they know that sexual assault is just a minor speed bump on the road to multicultural utopia? They just need to stop noticing it. After all, German women were welcoming those Muslims with open arms just a couple months ago. Now it’s time for them to welcome them with open legs, lest some jews call them Nazis.

  35. Rurik says:
    @Anonymous

    The answers aren’t hard to come by. Muslims are religious, Europeans are materialist hedonists whose main concern is to maximize pleasure – how would it be possible for Europeans to resist? The crisis is one of motivation – not virility.

    the biggest enemy of the European people is the church, and perhaps the Catholic church in particular being the worst, because they have been corrupted, and God lurks not in their sanctuaries or in the heart of its leadership.

    The problem isn’t a lack of fealty to an official religion, even tho there is a unfortunate lack of spirituality that has never quite filled the vacuum of the Western soul since the corruption of the Christian church into Mammon worshipers.

    Europe’s problem rather are the relentless mantras of the new religion. Holocaustianity, to whom all must bow, or be tossed in jail. Multiculturalism and Diversity, those twin pillars of white genocide. I don’t see too many ministers or priests with the spiritual integrity to take on the slithering demons who preach those mantras from every controlled media outlet and pulpit there is.

    Look at the Poop today, crossing the Mexican border to show all us Americans that we have no right to a country. And that we all need to bow down and wallow in the spiritual sewage of guilt and communism. And transform our communities into places we don’t recognize.

    The only voices of reason are those coming from people who say that Europe has a right to maintain its identity for purely ethnic reasons. And I don’t know of even one priest or minister with so much as a communion wafer of spinal integrity to mention that obvious truth. Instead they would call me a Nazi for saying that.

    Now who exactly is the problem in Europe today. The “racists” and “Nazis” saying ‘no more!’ to the hoards? Or the Christian leaders who would excoriate the “racists” and “Nazis” for saying the simple, obvious and glairing truth?

    • Replies: @nickels
    , @Wally
  36. If, fifty years from now, Germany were somehow to rid itself of the Muslim invaders and restore European civilization, I hope Angela Merkel’s Henry Morgenthau, Jr.’s corpse (alongside FDR’s Mussolinid remains) gets the same treatment.

    @Crawfurdmuir

    The Germans, whom Hitler hoped to exalt . . . have come now to resemble Nietzsche’s “last man” instead. This is specifically the result of the last 70 years during which Germans have been taught that they are a “Tätervolk” . . ., and that they must accordingly be ashamed of their nationality rather than comfortable with it – much less, proud of it. This is an especially virulent strain of the “white guilt”* that leftists have sought to inculcate in all peoples of European descent, wherever they may be settled.

    from James Forrestall’s Diary:

    23 August 1944

    The Secretary of the Treasury [Henry Morgenthau, Jr.] came in with the President, with whom he had had lunch. The President said he had been talking with the Secretary of the Treasury on the general question of the control of Germany after the ed of the war. He said that he had just heard about a paper prepared by the Army and that he was not at all satisfied with the severity of the measures proposed. He said that the Germans should have simply a subsistence level of food–as he put it, soup kitties would be ample to sustain life–that otherwise they should be stripped clean and should not have a level of subsistence above the lowest level of the people they had conquered.

    The Secretary of War [Henry L. Stimson] demurred from this view by the President continued in the expression of his attitude and finally said he would name a committee comprising State, War and Treasury which would consider the problem of how to handle Germany along the lines that he had outlined . . .
    [There follows a parenthesis, added to the same page two years later:

    (The paper referred to was one that was prepared by the War Department and was sent to Eisenhower for his information and comments. A Colonel Bernstein apparently secured a copy of it and without going through Army channels showed it to Mr. Morgenthau with the above results. This was the beginning of the so-called Morgenthau Plan of pastoralizing Germany.)

    The Secretary of War pointed out that among other things Germany was a highly industrialized nation, that it would be a practical impossibility to shift large segments of the population who depended for their existence on industrial economy back to the land; furthermore, he pointed out that the products of German industry were needed for the rebuilding of Europe, . . .

    [The diary contains still another reference to this matter. In May 1947 Forrestal lunched with Robert P. Patterson, Under Secretary of War, and James F. Byrnes, the Director of War Mobilization. “Among the highlights” of that gathering he noted the following:

    The so-called Morgenthau Plan for an agrarian Germany was worked out by Morgenthau and submitted to the Cabinet at a meeting in the summer of 1944 after Morgenthau’s return from Europe . . . [sic]
    Byrnes recalled that the President proposed his program for Germany at the Cabinet meeting in question after having lunch with Morgenthau. It came as a shock to Hull [Cordell Hull, Secretary of State] and Stimson when he named Morgenthau head of a committee to deal with German matters. At this same lunch he read a number of excerpts from the proposed Army directive indicating his disapproval and scorn of the “soft” policy toward Germany. Byrnes recalled that Hull did not go to the subsequent Quebec Conference ** and that Morgenthau did, and at that meeting he got Roosevelt’s and Churchill’s signature to his conception of the treatment of Germany. Byrnes said that Hull was so angry when he got this message that he expressed a desire to resign.*

    18 September 1944 **

    The Assistant Secretary of War, Mr. [John J.] McCloy, told me tonight that the Secretary of the Treasury, Mr. Morgenthau, had formulated a program of the most severe character in dealing with Germany after its collapse. [nb. note the date of this entry. Dresden was firebombed on 13 to 15 February 1945 ***] He said that the Secretary of War was in violent disagreement, that the President had decided to go along with Morgenthau. In general the program, according to Mr. McCloy, called for the conscious destruction of the economy in Germany and the encouragement of a state of impoverishment and disorder. He said he felt the Army’s role in any program would be most difficult because the Army, by training and instinct, would naturally turn to the re-creation of order as soon as possible, whereas under this program they apparently were to encourage the opposite.

    In a 1 May 1945 entry, Forrestal expressed concern that Japan, too, would be “morgenthaued.” Noting that the morgenthauing of Germany had removed a counterbalance to Russian expansionism, Forrestal wrote:

    “No person could be too happy with the results of unconditional surrender as it was being applied to Germany. Our ‘diplomatic planning of the peace’ was far below our planning for the conduct of the war . . . there was comparatively little thought as to the relationships between nations which would exist after Germany and Japan were destroyed. . . . At the moment we were destroying the principal counterweight to Russia in Europe. Did we really wish to “morgenthau” the corresponding counterweight in Asia?” .


    ** from Wikipedia:

    The Second Quebec Conference (September 1944)
    At the Second Quebec Conference, a high-level military conference held in Quebec City, September 12–16, 1944, the British and United States governments, represented by Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt, respectively, reached agreement on a number of matters, including a plan for Germany, based on Morgenthau’s original proposal. The memorandum drafted by Churchill provided for “eliminating the warmaking industries in the Ruhr and the Saar… looking forward to converting Germany into a country primarily agricultural and pastoral in its character.” However, it no longer included a plan to partition the country into several independent states.[22]

    This memorandum, together with the later effected “industrial disarmament” plans in occupied Germany, is generally known as the real Morgenthau plan.[23]

    (See United States Department of State Foreign relations of the United States, Conference at Quebec, 1944 pp. 466–67 for the full text of the signed memoranda.)

    Roosevelt’s support for the plan
    Secretary of the Treasury Henry J. Morgenthau Jr. convinced Roosevelt to write to Secretary of State Cordell Hull and Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson saying that a US occupation policy which anticipated that “Germany is to be restored just as much as the Netherlands or Belgium” was excessively lenient. A better policy would have the Germans “fed three times a day with soup from Army soup kitchens” so “they will remember that experience the rest of their lives.”[24] Morgenthau was the only Cabinet member invited to participate in the Quebec Conference during which the Plan was agreed to.

    Roosevelt’s motivations for agreeing to Morgenthau’s proposal may be attributed to his desire to be on good terms with Joseph Stalin and to a personal conviction that Germany must be treated harshly.

    In an August 26, 1944 letter to Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands, Roosevelt wrote that
    “There are two schools of thought, those who would be altruistic in regard to the Germans, hoping by loving kindness to make them Christians again — and those who would adopt a much ‘tougher’ attitude. Most decidedly I belong to the latter school, for though I am not bloodthirsty, I want the Germans to know that this time at least they have definitely lost the war.”[25]

    Secretary of State Hull was outraged by Morgenthau’s “inconceivable intrusion” into foreign policy. Hull told Roosevelt that the plan would inspire last-ditch resistance and cost thousands of American lives. Hull was so upset over the plan that it prompted his resignation from the administration.[26] * This assertion of the reason for Hull’s resignation is highly debatable; Hull’s letter of resignation,[27] makes clear that ill health was the cause, and that Hull wanted to continue in office: “It is with inexpressible disappointment that I find it necessary, for considerations of health, to retire from public service. …It is a supreme tragedy to me personally that I am unable to continue making my full contribution to such great international undertakings as the creation of the postwar peace organization, the solution of the many other problems involved in the promotion of international cooperation, and the final development of a full and complete structure of a world order under law. When I recover my strength, I shall individually be always at your service in every possible way.”

    Churchill’s support for the plan
    Churchill was not inclined to support the proposal, saying “England would be chained to a dead body.” Roosevelt reminded Churchill of Stalin’s comments at the Tehran Conference, and asked “Are you going to let Germany produce modern metal furniture? The manufacture of metal furniture can be quickly turned in the manufacture of armament.”[28] The meeting broke up on Churchill’s disagreement but Roosevelt suggested that Morgenthau and White continue to discuss with Lord Cherwell, Churchill’s personal assistant.

    Lord Cherwell has been described as having “an almost pathological hatred for Nazi Germany, and an almost medieval desire for revenge was a part of his character”.[29] Morgenthau is quoted as saying to his staff that “I can’t overemphasize how helpful Lord Cherwell was because he could advise how to handle Churchill”.[30] In any case, Cherwell was able to persuade Churchill to change his mind. Churchill later said that “At first I was violently opposed to the idea. But the President and Mr. Morgenthau — from whom we had much to ask — were so insistent that in the end we agreed to consider it”.[31]

    Some have read into the clause “from whom we had much to ask” that Churchill was bought off, and note a September 15 memo from Roosevelt to Hull stating that “Morgenthau has presented at Quebec, in conjunction with his plan for Germany, a proposal of credits to Britain totalling six and half billion dollars.” Hull’s comment on this was that “this might suggest to some the quid pro quo with which the Secretary of the Treasury was able to get Mr. Churchill’s adherence to his cataclysmic plan for Germany”.[32]

    Harry Dexter White, regarded by many as the principal author of the plan, was after his death exposed as having passed information on to the Soviets, who were U.S. allies at the time.

    At Quebec White made sure that Lord Cherwell understood that economic aid to Britain was dependent on British approval of the plan. During the signing of the plan, which coincided with the signing of a loan agreement, President Roosevelt proposed that they sign the plan first. This prompted Churchill to exclaim: “What do you want me to do? Get on my hind legs and beg like Fala?”[33]

    On May 10, 1945, Truman signed the U.S. occupation directive JCS 1067. Morgenthau told his staff that it was a big day for the Treasury, and that he hoped that “someone doesn’t recognize it as the Morgenthau Plan.”[25] The directive, which was in effect for over two years directed the U.S. forces of occupation to “…take no steps looking toward the economic rehabilitation of Germany”.[26]

    In occupied Germany Morgenthau left a direct legacy through what in OMGUS commonly were called “Morgenthau boys”. These were U.S. Treasury officials whom General Dwight D. Eisenhower had “loaned” in to the Army of occupation. These people ensured that JCS 1067 was interpreted as strictly as possible. They were most active in the first crucial months of the occupation, but continued their activities for almost two years following the resignations of Morgenthau in mid-1945, and some time later, of their leader, Colonel Bernard Bernstein, who was “the repository of the Morgenthau spirit in the army of occupation”.[27] They resigned when, in July 1947, JCS 1067 was replaced by JCS 1779 which instead stressed that “An orderly, prosperous Europe requires the economic contributions of a stable and productive Germany.”

    Following his resignation, along with other prominent individuals such as the former first lady, Eleanor Roosevelt, Morgenthau remained for several years an active member of the group campaigning for a “harsh peace” for Germany. . . .

    Morgenthau resigned in mid-1945, when Truman became President and Morgenthau’s advice was no longer sought. He devoted the remainder of his life to working with Jewish philanthropies, and also became a financial advisor to Israel.

    PLEASE take the time to fully absorb the bloodthirsty and counterproductive motives of Morgenthau’s plan, with which Franklin Roosevelt fully acquiesced and gave his support against the advice of the Secretary of State and military advisors.

    I MAKE THIS PLEA because Ed Royce and Eliot Engel are proposing a similar process against Iran. In a January 8, 2016 speech at American Enterprise Institute, http://www.c-span.org/video/?402946-1/foreign-affairs-committee-chair-ed-royce-national-security-threats Royce, chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, cited the procedures former Secretary of Treasury Stuart Levey had established by which latter-day Morgenthau boys, now called Guerrillas in Grey Suits, by which a target nation’s economy could be held hostage. Levey’s Guerrillas use the levers of the US-global dollar in combination with full access to all of the intelligence that the out-of-control US intelligence operations to threaten or actually carry out the economic destruction of other countries.

    PLEASE notice these elements that were played out against Germany and are being imposed on Iran:
    ~ Jews in positions of influence plan/propose/run these schemes in pursuit of a Jewish agenda
    ~ non-Jews in positions of influence who oppose these schemes are disregarded
    ~ non-Jews are complicit in carrying out the hateful agenda, or are coerced to participate in it
    ~ The schemes are not only counterproductive in a practical sense and hideous in a humanitarian sense but are a deep offense to the moral values that the American people ascribe to themselves.
    ~ The schemes are hidden from or lied about to the American people

    What the United States (and Britain), under the leadership of Franklin Roosevelt, did to Germany was a crime against humanity of the most catastrophic proportion the world has known.

    George H W Bush went to war against Iraq in 1990-91 motivated by the same “promise to make a new world” that the US had fought for in World War II. He initiated the destruction — what Forrestal would call the morgenthauing — of Iraq.

    WE, THE PEOPLE have got to do everything in our power to prevent the psychotic morgenthauing of Iran.
    —————

    *** note to Avery

    Residents of Dresden were burnt alive, because their Führer invaded Europe, attacked UK, invaded USSR.

    Start of WW2 by Nazi Germany 1939.
    Firebombing of Dresden by US and UK air forces: 1945.
    Case closed.

    Franklin Delano Roosevelt made the decision early in his presidency in 1933 that “Hitler would have to be dealt with militarily.” In conjunction with his close alliance with Stalin, FDR determined early on that unconditional surrender would be demanded of Germany (see below, FDR’s letter to Queen Wilhelmina.)

    Susan Butler researched the correspondence between Roosevelt and Stalin. (see Susan Butler, speeches at Roosevelt Library, Dec 7, 2005 and April 2, 2015).

    Stalin carried out the famine-starvation of millions of Russian and Ukrainian peasants in 1932 – 1933. FDR was aware of this — Butler said, “FDR knew Stalin was a ruthless dictator; he killed his own people. ”

    According to FDR’s biographer, Jean Edward Smith, by June 1933, Roosevelt began to ally the USA with Stalin’s government. In doing so, Roosevelt contradicted and ignored the advice of his State Department; instead, he delegated Henry Morgenthau to negotiate with Stalin’s regime and resolve certain financial conflicts involving the claims of Americans to property in USSR.

    On the other hand, in 1933, Hitler had done nothing against Jews that comes close to the crimes Stalin had committed. In fact, Breitman and Lichtman wrote in their book, “FDR and the Jews,” that once the Nazis gained power, they quelled violence against Jews, and no Jews were sent to concentration camps between 1933 and late November 1938.

    By that time — November 1938 — FDR and Henry Morgenthau had already laid plans for building the planes that would be used to carpet bomb Germany and destroy Dresden.

    Butler explained that FDR was determined not to start a war, in the sense of not firing the first shot; he considered it politically advantageous that the adversary — Germany — shoot first, but he knew that he needed to provoke that act, and he manipulated events and leaders, i.e. Churchill, to bring that about.

    The Jewish declaration of economic war against Germany had the effect of riling Polish leaders to even heightened belligerence; Edwin Black details in “The Transfer Agreement” how Poles who had been incited by frequent newspaper headlines and street actions in support of the Jewish war against Germany made numerous threats to invade Germany.

    As Pat Buchanan has argued, British guarantees to Poland were ill-advised and ultimately betrayed; they precipitated an unnecessary war.

    Maj. Gen. Gerd Schultze-Rhonhof has detailed the efforts the NSDAP and Hitler himself took, until the very last minute, to avoid a war that you claim “Germany started in 1939.”

    Butler told her Roosevelt Library audience that “Germany was defeated by December 1941. Everyone knew that.”
    Yet in 1942 Erich Mendelsohn, “the Jewish architect,” was contracted to design replicas of the housing of working-class German civilians so that the US Air Force and Standard Oil could practice the most effective means of creating a firestorm to destroy the buildings and the people in them, even the infants who would dwell there.

    As the above information notes, Morgenthau and Bernstein devised the plan to punish conquered Germany by August 1944. By that time more than one hundred German cities had been pounded to dust by British and American bombers; Allied forces had dropped millions of tons of bombs on Germany by August 1944; Germany was prostrate and as Morgenthau’s Aug. 1944 plan for the post-war treatment of Germany implies, he was aware of this.

    The destruction of Dresden was gratuitous mass slaughter, and neither the first nor the last of such crimes against humanity that the FDR administration committed.

  37. anon • Disclaimer says:

    totally off topic- John Derbyshire, is there any reason that you stopped putting links to all of your writing on your personal site (http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Recent/page.html)? I used to refer to that page to see what you’d written recently.

  38. @Daniel H

    You might enjoy reading “The Mosque of Notre Dame” by Elena Chudinova: http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/books/the-mosque-of-notre-dame-detail.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  39. nickels says:

    I was talking to a chic in the bar. She informed me that the talk of the perpetrators in Cologne being Muslim is just a cover for the German rape culture, cause, you know, Germans are evil.

    My faith in:
    Humanity: 2%
    Women: 0.5%

    Feminism is brain rot.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  40. nickels says:
    @Rurik

    Von Mises noticed it first.
    Christianity always plays a dual role in socialist degeneracy.
    On the one hand it traditionally stands against it.

    But, on the other hand, the Gospels are the product of Essen-ism, which is basically communism. So the church is always impotent against the socialist push.

    For example, Tolstoy (bless his brilliant heart) was dedicated to the gospels. His Christian Anarchism was noted by Lenin as a positive help to the communist cause.

    Multiculturalism is socialist white genocide.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  41. nickels says:
    @Tiny Duck

    “I expect nothing less from the yawning intellectual and moral and political abyss of rape culture”

    My happy thought in reaction to this is how miserable people who see the world as such must be. Every shadow jumps out at you, even man is an evil perpetrator. A stolen kiss is cause for capital punishment, a stray hand cause to bring out the knife of justice and lay cleaved that which offendeth.

    The feminist deserves her hell.

  42. @rvg

    Please consider that the utterly misguided priorities and selfish values of many of those white women may have been a major cause of white men marrying Asian women. In other words, your comment may get things backwards, although I understand your sentiment.

    Having my own children, and raising them together with a dedicated wife who cares more about them than about endless adolescence, endless travel, endless drinking and “hooking up”, is my top priority. Certainly I dated wonderful white women who don’t fit the generalization I just made, but I also dated, knew, and still know many white women who DO fit the bill.

    My wife, a Filipina, is intelligent, educated, inquisitive, and had a good-paying job in the medical field before we got married and had our (so far) three beautiful children. She looks forward to returning to her work outside the home — part-time whenever she wants, probably in a few years, and full-time only much later when the children are grown.

    I treat my wife with respect, and she is my equal intellectually and in every way as a person. She speaks three languages fluently (English, Tagalog, and Visayan) and is learning some German and Spanish along with our kids. But she doesn’t confuse being an equal, being intelligent, and demanding respect, with trying to act like or be a man, and she doesn’t have the “attitude” that too many white women have nowadays.

    Lastly, a white woman with self-respect and a working knowledge of the substantial genetic and cultural differences between e.g. Africans and the rest of us, wouldn’t marry or sleep with an African anyway, regardless of whiny claims about the supposed unavailability of good white men.

    • Replies: @rvg
    , @Truth
  43. @nickels

    Nothing in the bible compels or even supports the use of violence, or any kind of coercion or intimidation, to take property honestly earned by some people and give it to others. Not even the isolated and oft-misinterpreted “render unto Caesar” comment,

    The gospels are consistent with, and require from us, VOLUNTARY, peaceful aid to those in need.

    Physically restraining someone and putting them in a cage with murderers, rapists, burglars, and assaulters — which is what prison is — because they refuse to give up their honestly earned or acquired property, is not Christian. That’s what taxation is, no matter how we may try to sugarcoat it.

    • Replies: @nickels
  44. WGG [AKA "World\'s Greatest Grandson"] says:

    What Fred Reed is doing in his angry, short-man screed is victim blaming. And for some unfathomable reason, the estimable Mr. Derbyshire is echoing it (tsk tsk.)

    It is an established fact that the people of Germany did not vote to bring in millions of 3rd world migrants. The ruler(s) made that decision without their input. Now, why don’t the white, particularly German, peasants start rioting in the street? It is exactly the same reason they are successful in every other aspect of life: low time preference. They are not prone to just saying “f*ck it” and running off screaming with a weapon in their hands. This is why Cologne looks like Cologne instead of Khartoum. These Germans also have families, what would happen if all the parents of the remaining German children got killed or thrown in jail for “hate crimes”? That doesn’t jibe with K-selected parenting- which is another reason that European cities are safe and beautiful. You cannot simply turn a nation of Dr. Jekylls into a mob of Mr. Hydes at the drop of a hat. The populace is constantly weighing their options and re-assessing the danger. All humans are capable of fighting back with violence, but civilized (read:white) nations use it as a last resort. And, in fact, the everyday people *have* started fighting back against these state-led crimes with violence: arson of invader housing facilities. Property crimes are the very beginning. This is starting to look the lead up to the Easter Rising. What kismet to be exactly 100 years later.

    Now, to address the issue of German and Swedish women who have decided to welcome the invaders: they are using a strategy. They have figured that:

    A) there is nothing they can do to stop the government facilitating this invasion
    B) there is potential for serious danger from the new migrants
    C) if they are actively hostile to the inevitable migrants, it may become a self-fulfilling prophecy of violence or warring factions
    D) if they are instead welcoming to the invaders, they may avoid personal injury to themselves

    This is the faulty reasoning behind Stockholm syndrome. These women need psychological help to deal with the assault they have already suffered from their own government, before any sexual assaults even occur.

    I would sincerely love to see Misters Reed and Derbyshire write the same things about how Jewish women perpetuated the Holocaust upon themselves and their male counterparts because they were just too horny for those sharp Nazi uniforms.

    Again, this victim-blaming is the least sophisticated type of analysis. No wonder it apparently thrives on the Sour Grapes portion of the internet, i.e. the Manletsphere.

    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith
  45. @nickels

    Let’s hope that that brainless wench is one of the savages’ next victims, rather than a woman who exhibits intelligence, common sense, and a willingness to fight back against aggression rather than submit or excuse it.

  46. @Montefrío

    yet more Catholic idiocy.

    has your cyberCatholic rag lambasted any of the Daniel Silva books that pollute too many libraries, with their plots featuring the noble Jew forcing the pope to apologize to Jews again
    and again
    and again
    and again

    for the crime of defending Christians and Catholics from the predatory proclivities of selfsame Jews?

  47. I think Derb has lost it to some extent. Russians are NOT pussies – whatever other problems they may have (excessive and almost self-destructive alcohol consumption and violence to name a few), they are not “ethnomasochists” or “pussies” – actually, no country from behind the old Iron Curtain fits that description.

    • Replies: @anon
  48. Rehmat says:

    John Derbyshire – you may like to compensate your Cologne shortcomings by visiting modern city of Tel Aviv – home to 280 Jewish brothels and world’s only PINK CITY.

    As for your whining about church is concerned – I recommend you to visit Athens city, which used to home to 72 mosques before Greece got ‘liberator’ from the ‘White women rappers’ – but know thanks to White Christian racists, the city has no mosque.

    Isn’t that make you happy?

    http://rehmat1.com/2009/12/08/no-mosque-in-athens/

  49. nickels says:
    @RadicalCenter

    “Nothing in the bible compels or even supports the use of violence, or any kind of coercion or intimidation, to take property honestly earned by some people and give it to others.”

    True. But people who are seduced by socialism are never the ones who understand the reality of it.
    The reality is a small group of criminals coming to power. The dream is the Essene harmony.

    Von Mises, Socialism, Part IV, chapter III:

    “Nothing, therefore, is less tenable than the constantly repeated assertion that religion, that is, the confession of the Christian Faith, forms a defence against doctrines inimical to property, and that it makes the masses unreceptive to the poison of social incitement. Every church which grows up in a society built on private property must somehow come to terms with private property. But considering the attitude of Jesus to questions of social life, no Christian Church can ever make anything more than a compromise here, a compromise which is effective only as long as nobody insists on a literal interpretation of the words of the Scriptures. It would be foolish to maintain that Enlightenment, by undermining the religious feeling of the masses, had cleared the way for Socialism. On the contrary, it is the resistance which the Church has offered to the spread of liberal ideas which has prepared the soil for the destructive resentment of modern socialist thought. Not only has the Church done nothing to extinguish the fire, it has even blown upon the embers. Christian Socialism grew up in the Catholic and Protestant countries, while the Russian Church witnessed the birth of Tolstoy’s teachings, which are unequalled in the bitterness of their antagonism to society. True, the official Church tried at first to resist these movement, but it had to submit in the end, just because it was defenceless against the words of the Scriptures.”

    It explains a lot. For instance, the pope and the protestant marriage to Multiculturalism.
    Also, why the Jewish radical has always resonated with Western society.

    Mises is not condemning Christianity. He is merely pointing out that the adopting of a Judeo religion has the consequence of bring with it the collectivist nature of those who framed it.

    Well worth the read even if you don’t completely buy the argument:

    https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Socialism%20An%20Economic%20and%20Sociological%20Analysis_3.pdf

  50. We need to remedy the problem of people accurately describing the racial or ethnic appearance of their predators. This is hurtful, and since race doesn’t really exist, not helpful at all.

    Description of their clothing will be more than adequate to identify the perpetrator, once we pass laws that ban criminals from changing their clothing after committing a crime.

    Problem solved!

  51. 5371 says:

    [Mises is not condemning Christianity. He is merely pointing out that the adopting of a Judeo religion has the consequence of bring with it the collectivist nature of those who framed it.]

    You do know the ethnic origins of Mises himself, don’t you?

    • Replies: @nickels
  52. Eustace Tilley (not) [AKA "Schiller/Nietzsche"] says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Stupidest comment I have ever seen at unz.com

  53. I would sincerely love to see Misters Reed and Derbyshire write the same things about how Jewish women perpetuated the Holocaust upon themselves and their male counterparts because they were just too horny for those sharp Nazi uniforms.

    There are facts to support the proposition.

    As we know from the Morgenthau plan, enforced for ~2 years by “Morgenthau boys,” Germans who were allowed to remain in Germany were abused horribly; Freda Utley was there and reported on it. http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/thcov/index.html

    Germans were put out of their homes, if they still had one after Allied bombed the hell out of Germany — it was Bomber Harris’s goal to “de-house” German civilians; 7 million Germans were rendered homeless by war’s end, and another 8- or so million were “ethnically transferred” from their homes post-war.

    Reminiscent of the way Jews dispossessed Palestinians of their homes, Jewish persons were installed in homes that Germans were forced to vacate, including in the Wannsee mansion, where Jewish refugees were housed while awaiting transport to some other country. Heaven fore fend that anyone should suspect that the so-called Wannsee Protocol was forged on stationery pilfered by Jews housed at Wannsee. nah. wouldn’t happen.

    Jews in Germany post-war were housed, comparatively healthy and well-fed; they were also horny as hell. Jewish women humped like rabbits while in temporary housing in Germany, producing more children than any other group, including German women who were forced to prostitute themselves to feed their children or themselves.

  54. Talha says:
    @Charles Martel

    They are terrified for a good reason. Even the women of the societies where these hoodlums are from are “shocked” by their behavior:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6106500.stm

    “Egyptians are horrified by the news that women have been assaulted by hordes of young men in the center of the capital, Cairo.”

    What is happening? I don’t know – I have been a Muslim for almost 40 years of my life and have studied under various scholars. Never have I ever heard anything like this being supported by them – ever. They have always advised that, if women aren’t properly dressed publicly, the only thing you are supposed to do is mind your own business and lower your gaze. No looking and definitely NO TOUCHING.

    These beasts won’t even leave fully covered (in niqab) women alone:
    https://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/10/05/57724.html

    I think this is a very likely culprit here (from the BBC article):
    “A psychologist, Amr Abu Khaleel, attributed the predatory behaviour to the possible use of drugs and the *breakdown of traditional values.*”

    Breakdown of traditional values seems to be a worldwide phenomenon and while it manifests itself in certain self-destructive ways in European or Christian societies it seems to be taking other manifestations among the Arabs and Muslims.

    These fools don’t realize how horribly their actions will impact true refugees like widows and orphans who have held much hopes in the gracious and welcoming attitudes of many among the European people.

  55. Corvinus says:

    Intelligent Dasein—“Where are these women? Show me these German girls who harbor a secret fascination with Middle Eastern idiots.”

    Indeed, show us.

    “Go ahead and explain to me how, compelled by forces they can neither control nor understand, they simply must jump into bed with backward, barely-literate desert rats, and then explain to me how this desire somehow translates into the complex political actions undertaken by Germany to actually bring the foreigners in.”



    Except that Muslim men, in general, aren’t “backward barely-literate desert rats”.

    
Anonymous—“Instead what will happen over the course of the century is the millions of Muslims brought into Germany will mix with Germans creating a changed German race.”

    Which is (gasp) evolutionary.

    Greg Bacon—“Or is this another Zionist enterprise to conflate what Apartheid Israel is doing to Palestinians into a cause that will enrage us white folks to keep demanding that the West keep killing Iraqis, Syrians and Libyans so Israel can expand into ‘Eretz Israel?’”

    Haxo Angmark—“The purpose of Judeo-Globalization, as any number of public statements by Jews from Sontag to Soros have made clear, is the physical extermination of the entire White Race”

    Hey, Bacon and Angmark, I invoke Niwdog’s Law—As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    Tim Howells—“If Western Civilization is to survive we will have to of necessity destroy feminism as one of the first orders of business. If it does not survive, then the status of women will revert to that seen in Africa, Asia and the Middle East.”



    You do realize that the treatment of women as inferiors is a SHARED trait of Western Civilization and Africa, Asia, and the Middle East.

    Praytell, how do YOU intend to do your part in destroying feminism? Join a book club with other impotent white males calling for someone else to jump into the fray?

    B.R.—There has been a drop in testosterone levels in men since mid 1980′s or so.
    At least 20%, maybe 25%. That is what is causing the male infertility crisis.

    Source?

    Rurik—“the biggest enemy of the European people is the church, and perhaps the Catholic church in particular being the worst, because they have been corrupted, and God lurks not in their sanctuaries or in the heart of its leadership.”

    How is the Catholic Church this “enemy” of Europe?

    Nickels—“Multiculturalism is socialist white genocide.”

    I do love the spin on memes!

    Radical Center—Please consider that the utterly misguided priorities and selfish values of many of those white women may have been a major cause of white men marrying Asian women.
    
Actually, white men who marry Asian women do so for a host of reasons, which COULD include, in their experiences, some white women who act in a manner they do not want to deal with.

    “My wife, a Filipina, is intelligent, educated, inquisitive, and had a good-paying job in the medical field before we got married and had our (so far) three beautiful children.”

    Pictures? And aren’t you committing white genocide?

    “But she doesn’t confuse being an equal, being intelligent, and demanding respect, with trying to act like or be a man, and she doesn’t have the “attitude” that too many white women have nowadays.”

    
Not “too many”, “some”. SOME white women have an attitude, no different than SOME white men.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Rurik
  56. @kiismerh

    I do enjoy the comments that on the one hand claim that the Jews are blackmailing Merkel and the European Elites into allowing Muslim immigration to destroy Europe and on the other hand claim the outrage over Cologne and other “incidents” is being manufactured by the Jews in order to discredit Muslim immigration.

    I guess both paranoid fantasies could be true. The Jews arrange to Muslim Immigration into Europe so that the Muslims can be “othered” with tales of rape and sexual assault.

    Sneaky Jews!

    • Replies: @alexander
    , @anon
  57. nickels says:
    @5371

    Not sure how Mises’ ethnicity is relevant, but yes.

    Mises does not really pursue the question to a time earlier than the Christians, although he does mention the ‘Early communism of the Christians” by which I assume (perhaps wrongly) he means the Essenes, whom Eusebius himself declared were the first Christians.

    To support my first sentence that you quote:


    But Mises did not condemn religious ideas because he was an agnostic. To the contrary: “The popular attacks upon the social philosophy of the Enlightenment and the utilitarian doctrine as taught by the classical economists did not originate from Christian theology, but from theistic, atheistic, and antitheistic reasoning.”[18] It would therefore be a “serious mistake to conclude that the sciences of human action” and liberalism are “antitheistic and hostile to religion. They are radically opposed to all systems of theocracy. But they are entirely neutral with regard to religious beliefs which do not pretend to interfere with the conduct of social, political, and economic affairs.”[19]

    https://mises.org/library/mises-debunks-religious-case-state

  58. @Intelligent Dasein

    But the sooner the Sailerites and PUAs are torched out of the alt-right, the better.

    First: Bingo!

    Second: Unlikely to happen. You’re talking about faith-based issues here, buttressed by some wildly selection-biased data. The fodder of True Believers.

  59. @WGG

    Bingo!

    NB: I “bingo” as an offhand attempt to encourage sane posters. They are outnumbered and out-nut-jobed. 😉

  60. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Vox Day is right; SJW’s always lie, SJW’s always project and they always double down with the insanity of their arguments.

  61. Wally [AKA "BobbyBeGood"] says: • Website
    @Rurik

    “Europe’s problem rather are the relentless mantras of the new religion. Holocaustianity, to whom all must bow, or be tossed in jail.”

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    It’s over when we say it’s over, we have given them power they did not earn.

    The ‘6M & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
    http://www.codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    The ‘holocaust’ storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek the truth? Real truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  62. Talha says:
    @Greg Bacon

    Nope – there are people who act like this. As I posted before, this has happened in other places, see Egypt in 2006:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6106500.stm

    And just this year:
    https://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/10/05/57724.html

    Though Zionists have no love for Arabs and Muslims, you can’t pin this on them. I am a Muslim myself and I’m ashamed of behavior like this from people with Muslim names – disgusting! If the Germans want to lock these types of men up, no problem – you are probably doing the world a service. Deporting them will just dump them on the heads of women in the Middle East – Lord knows they have enough worries.

    • Replies: @Talha
  63. alexander says:
    @Milo Minderbinder

    Funny comment.

    It is interesting that the nearly unprecedented refugee crisis caused by our wars of aggression, (which according to the UN report in June , numbers at over fifty nine” million” people) has so little discussion in our media.

    Yet the wanton ” groping” of a bunch of “alleged” Syrian refugees is all “the rage”.

    As though the millions of families forced to flee for their lives due to the horror of the wars we have created, have nothing better to do upon landing in war-free Germany, safe from bombings and bullets, than to begin “groping” the women of Cologne ?

    I suppose the thrust of the media story is… what ?….if you bomb them they will grope?

  64. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus

    How is the Catholic Church this “enemy” of Europe?

    I already pointed out why:

    “Europe has a right to maintain its identity for purely ethnic reasons. And I don’t know of even one priest or minister with so much as a communion wafer of spinal integrity to mention that obvious truth.”

    The poop has come out in favor of unlimited immigration of third worlders into all white countries = genocide. Both physical and cultural

    diversity and multiculturalism

    the twin pillars of liberalism’s commie/Marxist/Zio/hate-crazed imperative to destroy Western civilization and its people out of resentment for them building things that the invaders could never build. So if a culture is superior to yours, and it hurts your feelings, what’s the best way to mollify your hurt feeling? To destroy the culture and the people who built it. Duh.

    And the Catholic church is at the front lines in demanding that the people of the west self-destroy themselves by inviting in the entire Muslim and third world.

    nothing hard to understand about that

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  65. Macilrae says:

    England, back in the latter 1950s was an extremely drab country with a population that had survived the war and was recovering from its deprivations. Social life was pretty dull and bland. I attended a local college where you could study for “A” level exams (necessary for university qualification) and along with me we had students from such diverse countries as Thailand, Kuwait, Persia and Greece – they paid big fees and they had wealthy daddies.

    Anyhow, these fellows certainly qualified as “strutting military age young men” and they usually carried off the local girls with ease – causing them to perform acts which they would never have dreamed of doing with us weedy locals (probably not even when they’d finally settled down and got married to us). Anyhow, the combination of their exotic appearance and worldly manners – as well as their money – did the trick for most of them.

    I do remember one fellow, however, Abdulla by name: a large ugly glowering fellow from Kuwait. Abdulla didn’t share his comrade’s luck but he was pretty well known for his ‘groping’ habit and one time I saw him with his hand up a girl’s skirt, groping away, while she stood there motionless for a considerable time. So while he was doubtless rebuffed frequently, he managed to do it successfully often enough that he kept going. And I never heard of anybody confronting him – you didn’t do that in those days; you just made sure you kept your distance.

    Recent events brought Abdulla to mind.

  66. Bill says:
    @helena

    What is happening is actually quite complex because in the past peoples have conquered other peoples because of advanced technology.

    No, peripheral people have conquered technologically superior empires before. Both the Eastern and Western Roman Empires fell to technologically inferior invaders. China has been conquered by inferior invaders several times. The usual pattern is technologically superior people conquering technologically inferior people, but the reverse happens.

    ID and Mathew2 have it right, I think. Decadence produces an alienated, cosmopolitan, hedonistic but anhedonic mess of a populace. This population doesn’t want to make personal sacrifices and take personal risks for causes larger than themselves. That part of you gets broken off and smoothed flat in decadent, cosmopolitan conditions. (“Sucker!!” says the Manhattanite) And, as ID says, it seems to take a while—he thinks one, but I think significantly more than one generation. The West’s elite became functionally atheist over the 19th C; the West became cosmopolitan over the 20th C; and we are now seeing the burgeoning disaster from it.

    Did you see the pic of that “performance artist” from Switzerland, standing naked in Cologne holding a sign with some feminist idiocy on it? Why would anyone want to sacrifice to preserve the virtue of some whore? She could not have done more damage to the cause of expelling the invaders if she had tried (and it would not surprise me if she were trying). Reminding everyone what the women whose virtue we are supposed to be rallying to protect are *actually like* is a mistake if you want the rally to happen. Those chicks staggering off the subway to join the bacchanal in Cologne were prolly not, you know, delicate flowers whose innocence was being robbed.

    Derb and (perhaps) Sailer too are deaf to this stuff because of spiritual autism. We should restrict immigration because it will maximize the average utility of residents of these United States. Derp. Derp.

    To the barricades!!! Average utility is threatened!!!!

  67. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The western peoples have a hostile elite who are trying to exterminate them – obviously.

    All this PUA stuff is a nonsensical attempt at deflection.

  68. Bill says:
    @Priss Factor

    You’re on fire in this thread.

  69. Bill says:
    @John Johns

    Wait, you mean PUA and mannosphere types are, like, neurotic retards regaling us with projected versions of their obsessively considered personal shortcomings?

    • Replies: @dcite
  70. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Milo Minderbinder

    Easily solved by imagining two factions (or two active factions plus neutrals) or even three:

    faction 1) destroy europe regardless of consequence (for perceived revenge)
    faction 2) minoritize europe regardless of consequence (for perceived safety)
    faction 3) hey guys what happens to Israel if 1 or 2 succeeds?

    Even if it was true that Jews always operate on the basis of “is it good for the Jews?” apart from lack of imagination there’s no particular reason to expect them to all agree.

  71. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Martel

    Exactly – it should be obvious that the difference is the 50 years of PC brain washing in the west from the media.

  72. Talha says:
    @Talha

    My mistake, the second article is from 2008 – not this year, as I erroneously posted. But I think it serves to illustrate my point nonetheless.

  73. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus

    You do realize that the treatment of women as inferiors is a SHARED trait of Western Civilization and Africa, Asia, and the Middle East.

    imbecile

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  74. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website

    The image of the church in the photo is very telling.

    It goes to show that Christianity was finished once it was decoupled from the aristocratic military class. It’s like Buddhism had to be wedded to the samurai class in Japan.

    Islam has spiritual stuff and sermons about love and peace, but it also has the warrior creed. Same with Judaism. Same with Hinduism.

    In contrast, Christianity and Buddhism are all about love, peace, transcendence, humility, meekness, detachment, and/or some such.
    Unless coupled with institution of worldly power, it is doomed. Worse, its teachings can be invoked by the enemy to instill guilt and self-loathing to destroy the social order.

    When Christianity or Buddhism is wedded to military power, the warrior class will act as sword and shield for the Faith. It may be hypocritical given that the Faith is about love and peace, but no civilization ever survived, let alone won, by preaching love and peace(or calmly detachment) alone.
    But without the armor of the military class, there is only the suicidal or defenseless values of the pacifist universal Faith. And the enemy can pressure your side to practice those values to the letter, and that just leads to mass suicide. After all, Jesus told us to embrace all of mankind and turn the other cheek. Christianity decoupled from the military class in the West has been leading to the downfall of Europe. Catholic Church and Protestant churches all say OPEN THE DOOR FULLY OPEN TO THE CHILDISH SAVAGES AND DARKIES. They either follow church teachings to the letter or surrender church policy to the globalists who have the power to make or break any church through blackmail, financial pressure, or political arm-twisting.
    Only the Russian Church in close association with State Power(and military class) that promotes nationalism isn’t in full cuck mode.

    The symbiotic relationship between Christianity and Militancy was well illustrated by two films: WITNESS, THEY CALL ME TRINITY, and THE MISSION.

    [MORE]

    Consider this scene in the Peter Weir movie:

    The devout Christian Amish say, “It is not our way”, but then Indy Jones says, “It’s my way” and kicks some butt. People like the Amish can survive in peace and harmony ONLY BECAUSE there is an outer ring of Law and Order that protects such communities. Without Law and Order, a bunch of Negroes might attack the defenseless Amish and kill every honker and rape every white woman. Of course, the US military and police force don’t favor the Amish but the Amish are, at the very least, protected by the police by thug marauders.

    The scene is an hilarious example of JAFI or just-asking-for-it. The thuggy is a cartoonish prick who swags his shoulders as Indy approaches him and even says ‘boo’ to his face. Just asking for it and gets it.

    Or consider the Mexican bandits who arrive in a community where all the men try to be perfect Christians, men of peace and forgiveness. So, the Mexicans slap them around and hold them in contempt. Christianity alone ensures no survival as God is a myth. A great myth but a myth.

    It’s like what Nazarin realizes in Luis Bunuel’s film:
    https://youtu.be/oJi0RzVv2GM?t=1h25m8s

    And consider what happens to the good Christians in THE MISSION. In this case, the good Christian priest played by Jeremy Irons converts a bunch of natives and champions their interests, but they are defenseless against the plundering classes.
    Robert DeNiro’s character realizes that holy words and grace aren’t enough. Violence must be met with violence, and even though DeNiro’s character fails at it, he had the right idea. For any spiritual value to have any meaning, it must have or be associated with the warrior code.

    In the US, the military is now controlled by the globalist government ruled by Zionists and homos. And the US police and law courts must also follow the rules set down by Supreme Court that has come under influence of Jews and homos.
    So, the US military is on New Cold War footing against Russia because Russia won’t surrender to the homo agenda. And armed police of the US will go after any bakery that won’t bake ‘gay wedding’ cakes. Jews want every Christian baker to be ruined if he doesn’t bake cakes for fruitkins getting ‘married’. As Jews control the arm of the law, Christians are under attack. And praying to God won’t help since real power happens in material terms in the real world.

    Without the protection of the military caste, the Christian Church is in totally defenseless mode and its cowardly clergy collaborate with the NWO. Also, pseudo-Christians infiltrated the church to change it from inside and rebrand Christianity as essentially a worship of the Holy Homo Anus and the fake vagina of trannies who cut off their wieners.

    The idea of civilian rule over the military class or aristocracy is a good idea as we don’t wanna to be ruled by the power of guns and swords. But then, civilian rule is really an indirect form of military rule. The civilian elites use the military and police to force everyone to get in line. Military may be used against OTHER nations as well, as US has done in the Middle East.
    This is why Jews want to get rid of the Second Amendment and take all our guns. At least if Americans have guns, it’s like universal aristocracy since all Americans have the right to bear arms, once a privilege of only the aristocracy.
    But with Jews and homos ruling government that controls the military and police, Jews and homos want all the power of arms in the government so that we will be utterly defenseless. They want to turn us from cowboys with guns to Indians with stone-tipped spears.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Talha
    , @nickels
  75. Rehmat says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Sure …. sure the European Jews occupied Palestine without firing a single weapon, right?

    “Israel is a land built on myths. It is, of course, not unique in this. Indeed, in this way Israel is very much like its patron, the United States. In order to build and maintain a mythical status a nation must create a picture of itself from its very inception and pass that picture down generation upon generation. For the US it is the idea that the nation is a beacon of both democracy and capitalism unto the world and what it does in terms of foreign policy, and even when at war, is always done altruistically. For Israel, the myth is that the nation is democratic and the last bastion of safety for the world’s Jews. Everything it does, even when that amounts to imperial expansion, is done defensively,” Professor Lawrence Davidson (West Chester University), August, 1, 2010.

    Israeli-born Gilad Atzmon in his speech at London Forum on War on Terrorism said that history is foreign to the Jews. Facts and historical documents are either pushed aside, shoved under the carpet, eliminated or simply destroyed.

    The truth if revealed would show that Israel is an oulaw entity, created by Jew-hating Western Christian powers by stealing the land from its Arab inhabitants to solve their centuries old ‘Jewish Problem’. Interestingly, Israel’s famous propagandist and ‘Islamophobe’, Daniel Pipes, posted on his blog on July 20, 2009: “Pakistan’s Jewish Problem”. One of his bone of contention was Majeed Nizami’s assertion that Pakistan has three enemies: “India, the US and Israel”……

    http://rehmat1.com/2010/08/03/israel-is-a-land-built-on-myths/

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  76. Rehmat says:
    @Rurik

    “And the Catholic church is at the front lines in demanding that the people of the west self-destroy themselves by inviting in the entire Muslim and third world.”

    Hmmmmmm! Where’re those bigot rabbis and historians who claim Adolf Hitler was Catholic?

    Oops! I forgot, recently corrected those “bigots” claiming Hilter loved Jews, but it was Muslim Mufti who kicked Hitler’s AZZ to kill Jews.

    Pope Francis must be drunk when he claimed that there is no SALVATION for Catholics unless they serve Jews.

    http://rehmat1.com/2015/12/15/vatican-jews-dont-need-christ-to-be-saved/

    • Replies: @Rurik
  77. dcite says:
    @Bill

    something about this subject does seem to bring it out in them. I think maybe they want to be groped.

  78. “I’m talking about yin and yang, the female and male principles, whose interaction drives the Tao, the way things happen.”

    Uh, yes… In other words, Eastern mystical quasi-religious mumbo jumbo. When the West thru Christianity attempts to put a spin on various ways the world works, the skeptics return with “Better stop that, old sport. You’re dabbling too much with superstitious nonsense.” Let us at least learn to be consistent when evaluating things that are generally termed legitimate science and what seldom rises above alchemy; astrology; and mumbo jumbo.

  79. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Priss Factor

    When Christianity or Buddhism is wedded to military power, the warrior class will act as sword and shield for the Faith. It may be hypocritical given that the Faith is about love and peace, but no civilization ever survived, let alone won, by preaching love and peace(or calmly detachment) alone.
    But without the armor of the military class, there is only the suicidal or defenseless values of the pacifist universal Faith.

    Yes! An excellent point.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  80. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    “The poop has come out in favor of unlimited immigration of third worlders into all white countries = genocide. Both physical and cultural”

    There observably no white genocide taking place in Europe.

    “the twin pillars of liberalism’s commie/Marxist/Zio/hate-crazed imperative to destroy Western civilization and its people out of resentment for them building things that the invaders could never build. So if a culture is superior to yours, and it hurts your feelings, what’s the best way to mollify your hurt feeling? To destroy the culture and the people who built it. Duh.”

    Niwdog’s Law—As an online discussion continues with multiple posters, the likelihood of a person making assertions that the Jews are behind everything in the world that is “bad” exponentially grows.

    You assume that all white people ought to look at society through a white and Western Civilization lens. Do white people have the liberty to view things in terms other than what you prefer? Moreover, are you willing to take part in this “destruction”? If yes, how?

    “And the Catholic church is at the front lines in demanding that the people of the west self-destroy themselves by inviting in the entire Muslim and third world.”

    The adherents of this faith are not making these demands.

    “imbecile…”

    Women from Western Civilizations, along with Africa, Asia, and the Middle East, have observably been viewed as second-class citizens with minimal political rights, as well as having a particular economic and social function. And you have the audacity to call me this term?

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @nickels
  81. @Wally

    It’s over when we say it’s over, we have given them power they did not earn.

    Tough guy

  82. Art says:

    As a philosophical Christian – there is NO reason to invite Muslims into our culture and country.

    They do not like us – in many ways justifiably so – our military is killing their kind every day. Their ways are different – they do not want to meld with us – they are clannish – they do not believe in the nuclear family – they subjugate women – they trade off their daughters – they absolutely do not respect the Christian faith or philosophy. They say “god willing,” where Christian philosophy says “go for it.”

    We must leave them militarily – they should stay in their own countries. As neighbors we should trade with them, and let them evolve on their own – or not.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  83. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Horrific video of a german woman being dragged away to be raped in the subway by Muslims in cologne youtu.be/KKu6Y7FtgF4

  84. Talha says:
    @Priss Factor

    Don’t know if I agree with everything you are saying, but definitely the role of the warrior-saint cannot be underestimated in a people’s narrative of their own history. Both for the practical role they play in the defense of their people while upholding a high moral standard, but also giving subsequent generations something to aspire to beyond the latest quarterback phenom or pop star.

    Here is one of the finest produced by the Islamic peoples of latter times:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelkader_El_Djezairi

    When you can fight a nation for nearly two decades even as they employ brutal scorched-earth policies and then show such exemplary character to their citizens as to be awarded the highest honor that nation has to offer, you have achieved a pinnacle of chivalry and nobility that your own enemies attest to.

    This is the appeal of such concepts as the Jedi, even in our own times.

  85. rvg says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Which brings me to the question as to why are you guys so uptight about Islam anyway, think about it, under shariah law there will be no SJWs, gay marriage, liberals, commies, or BLM. Islam even promises a Scandinavian style cradle to grave welfare system. Remember there are several types of Islamic states.

    • Replies: @5371
    , @dfordoom
  86. @Rehmat

    You can’t be as erratically illogical with your non-sequiturs as the pub drunk because your professed religion doesn’t allow you to consume alcohol. So are you too stupid to notice that your opening paragraph purporting to reply to me simply has no logical relation to what I wrote?

    Test yourself. Try explaining why it was a valid reply.

  87. @dfordoom

    It is necessary, therefore, if we desire to discuss this matter thoroughly, to inquire whether these innovators can rely on themselves or have to depend on others: that is to say, whether, to consummate their enterprise, have they to use prayers or can they use force?

    In the first instance they always succeed badly, and never compass anything; but when they can rely on themselves and use force, then they are rarely endangered. Hence it is that all armed prophets have conquered, and the unarmed ones have been destroyed. Besides the reasons mentioned, the nature of the people is variable, and whilst it is easy to persuade them, it is difficult to fix them in that persuasion. And thus it is necessary to take such measures that, when they believe no longer, it may be possible to make them believe by force.

    If Moses, Cyrus, Theseus, and Romulus had been unarmed they could not have enforced their constitutions for long—as happened in our time to Fra Girolamo Savonarola, who was ruined with his new order of things immediately the multitude believed in him no longer, and he had no means of keeping steadfast those who believed or of making the unbelievers to believe.

    Therefore such as these have great difficulties in consummating their enterprise, for all their dangers are in the ascent, yet with ability they will overcome them; but when these are overcome, and those who envied them their success are exterminated, they will begin to be respected, and they will continue afterwards powerful, secure, honoured, and happy.

    Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince, ch. VI

    • Replies: @nickels
  88. @Art

    Is “Christian” a synonym for “idiot?”

  89. 5371 says:
    @rvg

    [Islam even promises a Scandinavian style cradle to grave welfare system.]

    Really? Can you support this with any hadiths or Koranic verses?

    • Replies: @Talha
  90. Rurik says:
    @Rehmat

    those “bigots” claiming Hilter loved Jews

    aren’t you that foul cretin who goes around calling Europeans who object to the invasion of their countries as “Nazis”?

    someone here was helpful enough to post a video of exactly the kind of Muslim sub-human dogs who’re coming into Germany and the rest of Europe and Scandinavia.

    youtu.be/KKu6Y7FtgF4

    Do they arrive as grateful guests in these countries? Or arrogant thugs who treat the local women like their own personal whores to be raped and assaulted?

    And there’s doormat, demanding that anyone who objects to this is a bigot and a Nazi. Pfft.

    Like I said, in their own countries, Muslim’s are fine people. And the ZioFiend has wronged some of them terribly. But as soon as they start demanding to emigrate into Western countries and calling people racists or Nazis for wanting to protect their sisters and daughters from these animals, they should be treated like rabid dogs and shot on site. IMHO ; )

    When a Western man hears the screams of that German women, something inside him is riled to her defense. He wants to protect her. Contrast that from the nigger-like behavior of those animals in the video. Her screams only fill them with bloodlust. What kind of men act this way? {answer: sub-human men} What kind of people show their gratitude to Germans and the West by systematically dishonoring their women in a symbolic act at New Year’s Eve?

    Well, I’ll tell you what kind. The kind that need to be rounded up like rabid dogs on the streets and thrown out. And none too gently.

    Watching that video, it’s hard for me not to be reminded of how the Russians treated the German women when their men were all dead and they were at the tender mercies of the Red Army. I’m sure those screams were a part of daily life. And now they’re back.

    • Replies: @Talha
  91. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus

    There observably no white genocide taking place in Europe.

    I just responded to another one of your types trying to imply that mass immigration is good for the people of Europe and N. America. Even as crime and rapes and assaults are off the charts. The genocide is slow and deliberate, but it’s none the less happening. To the quiet satisfaction of those people who simmer with a deep and abiding resentment (hatred) for everything about Europe and the West. Just look at London or Paris if you have any doubt about the trends of this deliberate ethnic cleansing and genocide.

    You assume that all white people ought to look at society through a white and Western Civilization lens. Do white people have the liberty to view things in terms other than what you prefer? Moreover, are you willing to take part in this “destruction”? If yes, how?

    what the f**k are you talking about? White people can look at anything in anyway they want to dumbass. All I’m saying is that if they want to maintain their ethnic identity for posterity, they ought to be able to. DUH! But that’s a bridge too far for you isn’t it? And so you slither around with inane innuendoes about how anyone who says such things is demanding that ‘all white people blah, blah, blah.’ White folks are like everybody else. We come in variations and do not fit nicely into little stereotypical labels for your convenience. The tapestry of our lives is not subject to neat little labels, But we do have our uniqueness. We do for instance value freedom of expression and freedom of lifestyle far more than those for instance in the Middle East, who treat their women less like equals and more like property. That is one thing that you can say is a specific difference between the way white people see the world vs. the darker tribes.

    The adherents of this faith are not making these demands.

    The Catholic people are some of the best in the world. I have nothing but tones of respect for the Catholic people. It’s not them that are trying to destroy their countries and lives and futures in return for a few contemptuously tossed shekels. Rather it’s the Catholic leadership that is venal and corrupt and riddled with paederasts and vile scum.

    “imbecile…”

    Women from Western Civilizations, along with Africa, Asia, and the Middle East, have observably been viewed as second-class citizens with minimal political rights, as well as having a particular economic and social function. And you have the audacity to call me this term?

    yes, absolutely I have the audacity to call you that all day long. And then some. Because you try (pathetically) to equate the way Western civilization treats women and all its citizens as equals- with the way the stone agers of the Middle East or Africa treat their women. And it’s night and day my friend. Night and day. In the whitest of the white countries, Scandinavia, women are treated as exact equals in every way. And as you move down through Europe from Northern Europe down to the Mediterranean, you see a distinct change in the way women are honored as equals citizens with equal rights to a more reactionary treatment of women, like the way women in parts of Israel are required to sit in the back of the bus. Or not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia as then as you get down to the Congo, they’re treated like property and have their clits hacked off to keep them under control. So yes, absolutely, any imbecile who equates the way Western society treats all of it’s citizens as equals under the law as being the same as places where women are second class citizens- can not be considered anything other than an obvious and abject imbecile.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  92. dfordoom says: • Website
    @rvg

    Which brings me to the question as to why are you guys so uptight about Islam anyway, think about it, under shariah law there will be no SJWs, gay marriage, liberals, commies, or BLM. Islam even promises a Scandinavian style cradle to grave welfare system.

    Agreed. One should always look on the bright side. Best of all, under Islam there will be no feminists.

  93. nickels says:
    @Priss Factor

    Interesting comment.

    Christianity has always had a slider:

    Jewish (Essenism) |——o————————–| Roman (Imperial)

    Whenever the slider goes to far to the left Christianity falters and becomes a slave’s religion. When it goes to the right it kicks butt and is as militant as you like.

    We are in full left mode at the present.

  94. nickels says:
    @Corvinus

    “Women from Western Civilizations, along with Africa, Asia, and the Middle East, have observably been viewed as second-class citizens with minimal political rights”

    Patently false.

    SJW detected.

  95. nickels says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Interesting quote. I need to read that.

    Dostoevsky has an interesting quote along those lines in the Demons.
    I don’t have the book with me, but the gist is:

    Science has never built a nation.

    Only religion builds nations. And only a pure religion, a unique concept of God and the church. The moment that vision is diluted with a compromise between two different forms of the religion or by any questioning the whole nation flails….

  96. Talha says:
    @5371

    Maybe…maybe, you could really stretch it and say zakat is the financial net since it is received by the poor, but you have to be really dirt poor (or in debt) to receive it.

    Since it [poverty level] is pinned to the fluctuating value of silver (or gold – whichever is less) of approx. 600g of silver:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisab

    Which comes out to less than $300 currently:
    http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert.cgi?template=crm1&Amount=19.29045&From=XAG&To=USD&s=0

    So if you have around at least $300 dollars to your name, you are disqualified…doesn’t sound like Scandinavia to me.

  97. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    Agree with the sentiments here about ungrateful young men being let into Europe and causing mayhem.

    Two points:
    1) Why would it only be “when a Western man hears the screams of that German women (sic), something inside him is riled to her defense”? I’m a Muslim from Pakistan and I’m really incensed at what I’m seeing. I told my wife about, she was furious too. Why aren’t German police cracking heads when this is happening in front of them? If a group of Greeks on vacation in Algeria did this sort of thing, you know the Algerians would give them some well-deserved baton therapy. And these guys are actually given a refuge from their wrecked homelands – it is the height of audacity and arrogance.
    2) Let’s please be sensible in our approach (unlike TSA who even pats down seniors on wheelchairs) and distinguish between grandmothers and widows and orphans versus military age men who are acting like hyenas. Though I will agree that it is not their ‘right’ to be in Europe, surely one can see sympathy in the plight of one case while maintaining that the criminals can be kicked back to the meat-grinders from where they came.

  98. AndrewR says:

    Why wait 50 years to throw Merkel’s corpse into a garbage pit?? It could be done this month if Germans would man up. She deserves a trial before execution but it needn’t be drawn out.

  99. @Talha

    Because the West is a matriarchy. And a matriarchy does not respond with force or retaliate with force when challenged by men who are not afraid of minor things like monetary loss (these Syrians actually have nothing to lose in material terms anyway) – our matriarchy can only exert pressure on soft Western men who are terrified of losing their jobs or losing money because of their opinions (Trump is an exception to that rule and a very rare one at that). Here is the police on this: https://www.rt.com/news/328628-german-police-officer-refugees/

    To really understand the West, it is worth reading Aristophanes’ “Congress of Women.” Although more than two thousand years old, it describes much of what we have become today.

    I’ll make a prediction: Germany will have an Arab majority within twenty years. And nothing is going to stop it. Note, I didn’t say it cannot be stopped, I am saying it won’t be stopped. And that will be the death of the matriarchy which is now seeing the beginning of the end and does not recognise what it sees. When it does, it won’t be able to do anything.

    • Replies: @Charles Martel
    , @Talha
  100. @Talha

    One peculiar aspect of even people who read such forums as this is that they don’t read what the politicians say – and some of those things often reveal something that turns out to be far more significant later.

    Merkel said about Russia during the Ukraine “crisis” in 2014 that it was a country with nothing to offer except macho men, weapons and oil and gas (regarded as worthless by the EU matriarch in chief). We now know what Germany has to offer and cannot die laughing!

  101. Sorry that should read “cannot stop laughing”

  102. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    Why aren’t German police cracking heads when this is happening in front of them?

    good question Talha

    the answer is because they’ve been spiritually emasculated and psychologically eviscerated by generation after generation of hysterical demonization by their enemies as being guilty of crimes they never committed, but their enemies have found it useful to accuse them of, and use their media and schools, especially when they’re impressionable little children- to tell them that they are born of an evil seed. And that their ancestors were evil and that they too are evil. And have no right to take a proud breath in this life, because of what ‘they’ did to the Jews.

    That’s why they don’t protest as these Muslims treat their women with contempt and disrespect. Really its a way of disrespecting the men too, because any man who does not come to the aid of his womenfolk as they’re being raped and assaulted by sub-human orcs, is not a real man. Rather he’s a carved out, festering shell of a human being- dead inside from decades of carefully constructed lies and smears intended by experts to turn him into a spiritual zombie that hands over his tax dollars to Israel at the drop of a hat. – Ironically so it can be used to do an actual genocide on actual innocent people. How’s that for murdering the soul? They grind them down as being guilty for something they didn’t do, (the Holocaust) and force them to actually participate in genocide as unwilling accomplices by being forced to support Israel no matter what, even to the point of supporting genocide, that they were never guilty of until they were forced to support Israel.

    It’s one hell of a mind fuck and a way to actually stain the character of the German people who would otherwise be simply a proud and noble race, who’ve been dragged into war after war. And always lied about and always blamed for it all when they’re beat by treachery. Even when their actions were always far more noble and honorable than their enemies, who actually did want to genocide the German people off the planet. Well, the Morgenthau Plan was never fully implemented, so now Germany’s enemies are finding a slower if more satisfying way to see the Germans punished and genocided.

    And this is not just limited to Germany. You’re fellow countrymen were just recently and notoriously involved in a scandal in Rotherham England where Pakistani middle aged men were raping and enslaving British school girls in a campaign of rampant child sex slavery. They would rape them and gang rape them and beat them and threaten to set them on fire if they complained to anyone. And the citizens and the police were paralyzed by fear of being called a ‘racist’ for noticing that all the little victims were all white, British school girls while all the perps were swarthy Asian Muslim men. So this is a Western Civilization wide problem.

    And it all begins with the Federal Reserve Bank that has enriched and empowered this small cabal of hostile people that have used the power of that bank to push America into WWI, foist WWII, and buy up all the media and politicians in the Western world like going into Wallmart and buying Cameron and Merkel and Obama off the shelve in order that these stooges and quislings can preside over the genocide of their respective peoples while the media excoriates us all as evil racists if we object.

    Oh yea, also to wage eternal wars for Israel.

    Either we end the Fed, or the Fed will end us.

    ~ Rurik~ the truth teller.

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
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    , @Talha
  103. @Charles Martel

    This should buttress my point. Spot the “Defence Minister contest”:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-29/spot-defense-minister

    Note the country that has not voluntarily invited hordes of Arabs, does not promote homosexual marriage, women in combat, etc etc etc. It also happens to be the country with a man as Defence chief. You won’t see a photo like this in the Russian equivalent of West Point: http://nypost.com/2013/11/03/two-men-married-at-west-point-chapel-for-first-time/

    Two homosexuals in a wedding at West Point – Patton must be spinning in his grave, can’t think of one Western army that a man like him would join today.

    This a key difference between Western and Eastern Europe as well. It is no coincidence that all the Eastern bloc countries opposed the refugee quotas tooth and nail while the Western countries went all for it (led by Germany and Sweden – two that are are merrily along the path of their own extinction). Perhaps if the Eastern Europeans adopt enough EU Rules, they will become the same. But we are at least a generation off from that just yet.

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  104. @Rurik

    And who brainwashed the Swedes? And the Norwegians? And the British? And the French? And how is it that Eastern Europe which was controlled by “Bolshevik Russia” didn’t become like that?

    This is getting a bit silly don’t you think?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  105. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    “Even as crime and rapes and assaults are off the charts.”

    I have been told repeatedly here by posters that rape culture is a figment of SJW imaginations.

    “I just responded to another one of your types trying to imply that mass immigration is good for the people of Europe and N. America.”

    I never made this implication. The people there are able to decide for themselves whether or not to “import” people.

    “All I’m saying is that if they want to maintain their ethnic identity for posterity, they ought to be able to.”

    Whites have been maintaining their whiteness for centuries. The question remains, what about whites who choose not to?

    “We do for instance value freedom of expression and freedom of lifestyle far more than those for instance in the Middle East, who treat their women less like equals and more like property.“

    Listen, white knight, there are a number of conservative males, along with the manospherists, who believe that women have too many liberties and, as inferior intellectuals, ought to be put in their place.

    “Rather it’s the Catholic leadership that is venal and corrupt and riddled with paederasts and vile scum.”

    The Catholic leadership represents the members of the congregation.

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    , @Rurik
  106. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    Read about that Rotterham thing – pissed me off as well. This pisses me off more because people look at that and drag my religion into the ground for it. They deserve what they get, which is probably mild compared to what they deserve.

    I’m not German, but I’ve read enough about Germany to know that they have been an amazing people with a rich history (minus certain periods – but really, who doesn’t have those low points – and honestly the German people of that generation paid a massive price for that – widespread rape of their women and complete destruction of their infrastructure). Manfred von Richtofen was one of my childhood heroes.

    I have a different take on the future of Germany. The Germans have survived everything from Roman conquests to plagues to two world wars and come back on their feet. I hope (and pray) they’ll survive this post-modern madness as well – but it won’t be the German society we see today. It will have different values – because these post-modern values aren’t built to last or sustain any society. In fact their resilience may lie in the people they have invited in – they may adopt the best that Islamic culture has to offer and discard the rest. That is not a mark against them, but rather I have confidence in the capability and the ingenuity of the German people to be able to pull that off and come out the stronger for it.

    With you on End the Fed!

  107. ”Reaction” is hierarchically and multi-localized orchestrated, specially by men, at collective levels, when their territory is invaded. ”Normal war” work with the perception of very salient alert signals and as atmosphere become unbreathable, urge the imperative necessity to react to protect their own life and the imediate family. As when two men are mutually threatening and one them start the attack.

    What is happening is a implicit war, just it. Seems there are a usual reactive approach. Certain ones just desconstruct this mechanism inside, when no have social cohesion, this atomization work metaphorically like a mechanic dispositive that just work partially.

    ”Humanities”, the ”modern” shaman center change their culture-nurturers. Tv is now a church. The messengers are others.

    Some very good friend told me that ”humanities is a brain of academia”. Now i thought he was reasonably right but humanities is not a brain at rational levels but just operational, the voice that command or control the transcendental collective.

  108. Talha says:
    @Charles Martel

    Charles, you may be right and that might be the case that “Germany will have an Arab majority within twenty years” – but I think it may take longer. However, in historical context, this may lead to a new phase in the development of German culture. For instance the adoption and absorption of long-standing culture of Persia produced the Seljuqs, Mamelukes and Ottomans from the (basically nomadic and pastoral) turkish tribes even though the Persians were militarily defeated by them. The Persians had this same effect on the Arabs. It was the syncretic coalescing of the Berber tribesmen and the culture of the Iberian peninsula that produced Spanish Andalus. The Mughals are likewise Mongol invaders that were civilized by the Persian and Brahmin-Aryan cultures and produced their own rich and unique culture. Alenxander was also known to have adapted many of the sound civilizational attributes even from people he conquered.

    It has happened many times before and may be happening in front of our eyes. Maybe I’m just too optimistic about these things, but human history does show the resilience of societies and cultures and their ability to adapt and overcome and thrive.

    Again, hoping for a better future.

  109. @Talha

    Purely out of interest, and if you don’t mind answering, what religious denomination did you belong to when you converted to Islam?

    • Replies: @Talha
  110. @Talha

    On how German society will “react”, it is going to get ugly and violent with a major split: most of the migrants in the East German part will (my guess) move into the cities of what used to be West Germany. Given the way the East German gangs went about things in Leipzig today, we can be sure that this will be the flow.

    This again confirms my earlier theory about East v West in Europe. The East being what was behind the Iron Curtain and the West being what was under the Anglo-American alliance. So in the East, there could be more violence and this would send a lot (if not all migrants) to the West. In the West, I do not believe there are gangs like in the East and the women are much more moralistic. Here we will see the migrant population continuing to explode. Eventually, the former West will cease to exist as a country and the East will survive and might consider seceding – though whether it can or not remains to be seen. So the “adaptation” you speak about is going to result in Balkanisation.

    And before someone points out that Merkel is from the East, she is: (a) a woman; (b) beholden to German businessmen that have an absolutely insatiable appetite for cheap labour and vain moralism (and sometimes not in that order); and (c) she is a political opportunist who thought this was a way of guaranteeing her grip on power by sealing the votes of the left (since she already has the votes of the right) – this was a serious miscalculation. However, I suspect Germans don’t get rid of bad leaders unless they dispense of their own presence by shooting themselves in the BUNKER.

  111. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website

    The problem of EU and much of the world is their blind and stupid PC notion that ‘racism’ is bad.

    We should embrace racism as race + ism.

    Race means race, and ism means belief. So, race + ism = belief in the existence of race, belief in the possibility of racial differences, belief in the need for racial consciousness. After all, even Negroes will say that a black man is not simply a white man with black skin.

    Race-ism is good. Only radical racism is bad. It’s like socialism as in social-democracy is decent, but communism is evil. As long as race-ism isn’t radicalized into something like Nazism or Nation of Islam or extreme Zionism that calls for wiping out Pallies, there is nothing wrong with it. Indeed, race-ism and nationalism were the driving force for Third World Liberation movements that told white imperialists and Japanese imperialists to GO HOME. But in our PC culture, even rational race-ism is said to be like Nazism. But then, according to PC, even defense of one’s nation is to belong to the ‘far right’.

    Anyway, we should spell the word as ‘race-ism’ and pronounce it as race-ism than racism. Say ‘race’ and then say ‘ism’.

    For example, if our enemies say that sexual preference for your own race is racist, we should say, “Of course, it is race-ist. That is why it is so great. It means love and appreciation of your own race. It means racial self-esteem.”

    After all, why would you go with another race unless you felt racial loathing for your own people and believed that the genetic heritage of your people isn’t worth preserving.

    Also, we should use the term ‘interracist’ for those believe that OTHER races are superior to their own. Indeed, that is why most people choose interracism in their lives. Black men find black women to be ugly & inferior and see white women as superior in beauty. Many white women see white men as inferior to black men in sports and funky music, so they go with Negroes. So, interracism is just another form of ‘racism’ and rejection of one’s own race.

    Also, let’s just look at the sordid history of interracism. Usually, the winning side sexual conquered and colonized the losing side. Spanish men conquered indigenous women in South America while native men were reduced to cuckery. White slave masters took black women while black men were reduced to cuckery. Since the end of segregation, the trends have been reversed, and muscled black masters of sports and funky music conquer white women while white men are reduced to cuckery. Asian women find white and black men superior to yellow men who are reduced to pansyboy cuckery.

    So, interracism is a form of bio-aggression, much more serious than ‘micro-aggression’.

    Sexual race-ism is more harmonious because men and women stay within the race. But interracism is about men or women rejecting the opposite sex of their own race and favoring the mate of another race as superior. It is a form of racial and sexual conquest of another race or a sexual-racial rejection of one’s own race and surrender to another race that is deemed superior. Interracism is the product of feeling contempt for the opposite sex of your own race. White women who ‘go black’ see themselves as surrendering to the superior males of another race.

    There is no worse hatred than hatred and rejection of your own race.

    Btw, would it have been so terrible if the Spanish who conquered South America and Mexico had been opposed to race-mixing? They would have left native women alone to native men. But as the Spanish were opposed to race-ism and promoted interracism, they sexually conquered and colonized native women while native men were rendered inferior and lost their women to Conquistadores.

    And would it have been so terrible if Mongols who invaded Persia and Russia had been opposed to race-mixing? They would have sexually stuck with Mongol women while leaving Russian women to Russian men and Persian women to Persian men. But Mongols were full-blown interracists and raped and sexually colonized lots of Russian women and Persian women.

    And interracist Ottoman Turks raped so many Greek women.

    Ah, the sordid history of race-mixing.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Talha
  112. Here is Eastern Europe openly mocking Merkel: http://www.thelocal.de/20160112/eastern-europe-feels-vindicated-after-cologne-attacks

    It is comical to think these were a people raised under brutal Bolshevism but they understand the value of their countries far better than the idiots in the West!

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  113. Art says:
    @Corvinus

    The Catholic leadership represents the members of the congregation.

    That is not true – the Catholic bishops represent only themselves.

    The Catholic bishop at best has a paternal top-down do as I say relationship with the Catholic people.

    Recently Pope Frances wanted to loosen the sanctions on divorce metered out by the bishops – the bishops voted him down – it was the one thing that they still held over the practicing faithful. They would not give up their power.

    The Church is successful in spite of its bishops.

    The success of the Catholic Church comes out of the Catholic mass. The mass is unchanging and eternal, the same every week – it connects the faithful with a life affirming symbol of goodness – Jesus Christ. Week by week, year after year, the sermons of Christian New Testament idealism are the same – this is good – this is stabilizing.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  114. Rurik says:
    @Charles Martel

    And who brainwashed the Swedes?

    And the Norwegians?

    one of the most notorious examples of actual racism most foul was when Norway consigned the children born to Norwegian women and German officers during the Nazi occupation of Norway to insane asylums and other assorted abuse, including rampant sexual abuse. Their crime was that they had German blood. And so these Norwegians decided to repudiate the evils of racism by perpetrating an act of wanton and cruel racism upon their own children. That was the level of anti-German hatred that swept the world following WWII. A war the Nazis never wanted, but was foisted upon them by the exact same people who are foisting the wars today, in fact their very blood descendants, and trying to drag in Putin’s Russia exactly the same way they dragged in Nazi Germany, by causing the abuse and slaughter of ethnic Russians, just the way the Fiend used Poland to abuse German nationals in Danzig and other places to get their war.

    Eastern Europe which was controlled by “Bolshevik Russia” didn’t become like that?

    yet

    they’re doing it now with this mass invasion. That’s why Hungary is putting up a wall and the media in the dying west is starting to call him nasty names.

    • Replies: @Charles Martel
  115. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus

    I have been told repeatedly here by posters that rape culture is a figment of SJW imaginations.

    what you’re referring to is a special type of ‘rape culture’. It’s called being a white college male and asking a girl out on a date. Or gang “raping” a black stripper at Duke university. That is the ‘rape culture’ the SJW are all triggered over.

    But if a white sorority girl is gang raped on a crowded beach by favored first-class citizen eternal victims, then it’s nothing that the SJW consider of any consequence. They ignored it even as it was taking place.

    The people there are able to decide for themselves whether or not to “import” people.

    bullshit. The people never want it. It is always imposed by an unaccountable elite.

    The question remains, what about whites who choose not to?

    God bless them. They can do what ever they want to do. Go live in Africa or even someplace diverse, like NYC or Hong Kong, whatever. But what I think needs to stop is for unaccountable and hostile others deciding for Germany or Sweden if they want to be multicultural. They don’t. I suspect if Angela Merkel were to walk down a German city street today she’d be ripped to pieces by the German people.

    Listen, white knight, there are a number of conservative males, along with the manospherists, who believe that women have too many liberties and, as inferior intellectuals, ought to be put in their place.

    I’m no fan of Milley Cyrus or the way girls are encouraged to act like sluts when they’re children, but I don’t know of any Western man who’s saying women should be confined to the kitchen or forced to wear a burka. Western men in general love freedom and freedom of expression and braless women expressing their freedom too.

    The Catholic leadership represents the members of the congregation.

    now I remember why I called you an imbecile ; )

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  116. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    people look at that and drag my religion into the ground for it.

    I don’t blame the religion, unless that stuff about infidel women being whores could have an effect. I put it down to some men are sub-humans. White, “Christian” men too. But it does seem like when the swarthy types have an opportunity to defile a white women, they take extra pleasure and are often far more brutal about it. Like that black guy who said he raped white women to express his hatred of white men.

    The Germans have survived everything from Roman conquests to plagues to two world wars and come back on their feet.

    I’m not German either, but I sure do respect their pluck and their unwillingness to be subdued even going back to Roman times. I think that is exactly why they are hated so passionately and intractably by the cabal of wealthy baboon goons who presume to rule us all these days with their central bank printing presses and corrupt politicians and of course, the ubiquitous lying media. Gotta have the media!

    In fact their resilience may lie in the people they have invited in – they may adopt the best that Islamic culture has to offer and discard the rest.

    the rest = the people

    I have confidence in the capability and the ingenuity of the German people to be able to pull that off and come out the stronger for it.

    if they ‘pull it off’ and assimilate the genes of the Africans and Middle Easterners who’re invading by the hoards, they’ll eventually stop being Germans altogether and lose all of that capability and ingenuity you speak of. And that can not happen fast enough to assuage the hurt feeling of people who, unlike you, don’t admire the Germans for their glorious accomplishments, but rather hate them viscerally for it. Because it wasn’t them that did it. It was Germans.

    Yes, end the Fed!!!

  117. @Rurik

    Pathetic. Soros tried all this “Jewish activism” in Eastern Europe and it fell fat on its face – Eastern Europe swung even further to the right. Read the Hungarian nationalists, they will make most Western “rightists” blanche. Also, the idea that a small bunch of “Jewish activists” can unilaterally through some kind of cabal wreck whole nations is nonsense – perhaps not to religious people who associate Jews with demonic powers (and the killing of Christ) but I am an atheist and couldn’t care less.

    Soros incidentally also tried all kinds of “activism” in Russia and Putin has basically banned his NGO and sent him packing. So why did it not work? Russia has Jews but they don’t make trouble. They are allowed to practice their religion but they have no “control” over the country – this despite the “takeover” by Jewish oligarchs under Boris Yeltsin (6 out of the top 7 were Jewish). The Bolsheviks had a massive over-representation of Jews but Stalin killed it. I don’t need to recall what Stalin did to Soviet Jews (or anyone for that matter actually) that he suspected of disloyalty (some of which is so graphic this site wouldn’t be able to handle it).

    So no. If the Swedes can be “swindled” by a small bunch of “Jewish activists” into importing all kinds of riff raff and scum then they are frankly idiots and as nations don’t deserve to survive. And neither do the Germans.

    There are plenty of do-gooder insane liberals in Israel too. Think about the delicate ethnic balance in Israel between Jew and Arab. And yet, the leader of the Opposition Party, Herzog, wanted to import hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees into Israel! Remember that this guy lost the election to Netanyahu by a small margin. It is an election that he nearly won and Obama was all for him winning. He practically tried to sabotage the election.

    All you “Jew obsessed” guys are going to have to come up with some explanations when Israel ceases to exist – which it could do someday, through sheer weight of the problems it faces and intractable enemy it has in Iran (cunning, long term, ruthless opponent). But when Israel is gone, who will you blame for the suicide of Sweden and Germany? Jews? Which Jews where?

    None of your arguments are new. I have come across these hundreds of times. Jewish ownership of newspapers, Facebook, MTV etc etc etc – one could write a book. And yes I have read Kevin MacDonald and all that – almost everything by MacDonald. None of that is new to me. Its all simplistic nonsense.

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    , @Rurik
    , @anon
  118. @Charles Martel

    This reminds me of something else: the existence of Jewish communities in “non-Western” contexts is nothing new. There have been Jews in India and Iran for thousands of years. Why have they not managed to wreck these countries if they have some “destructive gene”? Do the Iranians have some special form of “inoculation” against Jewish “activists”?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  119. Talha says:
    @Charles Martel

    Don’t mind at all – actually I have been a Muslim (eventually treading the path of Sunni orthodox – Hanafi and Sufi – Naqshbandi) all my life (originally from Pakistan, blessed to live in the States) – my wife is a convert from Mediterranean and Scandinavian stock. Sorry if I gave the impression that I was a convert.

  120. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website

    Was the ‘rape’ of Cologne really about Islam or Muslims per se?
    I don’t think Muhammad or Islamic clergy would condone the behavior of those men in Cologne.

    There is nothing in Islam that says men should go around sexually harassing and heckling women. Islam calls for women to dress in a proper manner, and hardline Islamic societies will punish women who dress improperly.

    We saw this in Iran. But Iranian Islamic government never said young men should sexually harass or rape women who dress western.
    And you don’t see Muslim men in Malaysia treat western women that way. And there are western women tourists in the Gulf Arab states who dress modern but are left alone.

    So, the behavior of those men in Cologne had almost nothing to do with Islam. Rather, Arab men, like men of the Mediterranean(especially Greece and Southern Italy) — and the men of some Latino cultures in South America — come from machismo societies where manhood often tends to be exaggerated. Also, their form of patriarchy, whether Christian or Islam, tends to see women as either good and proper OR easy and sleazy. We see this attitude in Sonny Corleone in THE GODFATHER. When it comes to his wife and his sister, he is ultra-conservative and proper. But when it comes to affairs on the side, he sees and treats women as whores.

    Same thing with Tony Montana in SCARFACE. He wants to be free and have fun with whores. But he goes crazy when his own sister dresses and acts like a whore.

    We also see this in the Bohun character in WITH FIRE AND SWORD by Henryk Sienkiewicz. This guy will go around and pillage and rape and treat women like whores. But there is one respectable woman he loves dearly, and he would never sexually take advantage of her.
    It’s a kind of madonna/whore complex that sees women as either pure(at least until marriage) or whore-ish. And this attitude tends to be prominent in Southern Italy and some parts of the Middle East. But it is not common in ALL Muslim nations. In most Muslim nations, young men are not given green light to go around sexually harassing and raping women deemed improper. Either such women are left alone(even if shunned or tolerated as foreigners) or they are punished by proper authorities, not by gangs of unruly men.

    What we saw in Cologne was carried out by young men from Muslim-dominant nations, but the fact is even Christian men from that part of the world have the same attitudes, as do many men of Southern Italy and Greece. Many female tourists have remarked about how they were catcalled, harassed, and chased by local men of Greece and Southern Italy.

    Such behavior is far less common in Northern Europe that developed different sexual norms.

    Northern European men tend to be more restrained, less colorful, less spicy, less impulsive. They don’t like the men of Lina Wertmuller movies:

    Arab and Mediterranean men are more possessive of their women. The men like to act macho but also believe women should be proper. But for men to be free and have fun, there must be whores. But then, they cannot stand their own women being whores. But if they want whores to enjoy, there must be some whores… so, where do you find them?

    This kind of dichotomy also existed in the American South. Southern Culture was very much into honor and propriety, but men also wanted to be free and have their fun. So, there needed to be whores. But whores had to be kept separate from respectable world.

    Anyway, this kind of shame/honor culture was not unique to the Muslim world. It was also common in many parts of the Christian world. Sexuality has always been dark and dangerous. Consider the beautiful widow played by Irene Pappas in ZORBA THE GREEK. All the men want her but restrain themselves from going after her because they(most of whom are married) would end up fighting one another to have her. They hate her because they want her so badly but can’t have her in order to keep the social peace among themselves. So, they allow a loser to court her with full knowledge that he will never be accepted by her. And all the women of the village hate her because their men desire her more than them. So, when the comes to kill her, no one helps her, and both men and women of the village are glad to see her come under the knife. This kind of attitude was the norm in many parts of the Christian world, especially in Catholic and Orthodox communities. And consider the power of shame/honor culture in the film BEFORE THE RAIN where Christian and Muslim communities find themselves in crosshairs. It’s not just the Muslims but Christians who are very protective of their women. Since respectable women must be protected, there is only a limited number of loose women to enjoy as whores. So, there’s more sexual frustration.

    Or consider how angry the father becomes in SEVEN SAMURAI when he finds out that his daughter slept with the young samurai. Or consider Bonasera’s anger with the boys who attacked his daughter who nevertheless kept her honor in THE GODFATHER.

    There was a time when most societies were patriarchal, and honor mattered. Fathers raised daughters not to disgrace the family, and women grew up guarding their honor and reputation. Sure, there were whores too, but they were seen as lowly creatures(though also romanticized at times as hookers with heart of gold). Back in the days, the reputation of Ingrid Bergman could be destroyed for her indiscretions.

    I think what is happening in the West is a kind of synthesis. These young men from patriarchal-machismo societies are frustrated with the poverty, backwardness, and stuffiness in their own nations. Like young men everywhere, they have raging hormones, and they wanna have some fun, especially as they’ve been exposed to Western Pop culture through movies, music, and internet.

    At home, they have to behave because bad boys will be lynched by angry fathers and brothers. And of course, most women have to mind themselves. So, they dream of going to the West where women are supposedly easy and libertine and act like sluts and whores who put out to just about any guy, at least according to western pop culture. After all, the biggest female music star in the West in the 80s and 90s was a woman who called herself madonna and boffed the entire NBA full of Negroes. The West promotes that stuff as the cultural ideal.

    So, naturally, these Muslim men want the freedom and libertine sexuality of the West.

    But, on the other hand, their cultural attitudes about women were still shaped in a patriarchal society where women who dress and act like whores get no respect. Such women are to be shamed, shunned, punished, or even killed in extreme cases.

    What we see in the violence among these migrant men is both wild ecstasy of sexual abandonment AND judgmental fury of a religious mob. They want to stone and bone the woman at the same time. This stone-and-bone paradox or the game-and-shame paradox was evident in the attempted stoning of Mary Magdalene by the Jewish mob. They felt both the Beavis-like ‘boing’ and the fury of the arch-rabbis.

    These young men who came to the West want easy women. They feel liberated from the repressive social mores of their homeland. They want sexy white women, but they also feel contempt for these women as whores. And they also feel frustrated that these white women are not putting out so easily as they dreamed of back home. And they get extra fierce because they must compete with an entire mob of equally hornball men to grab some ass from the white girls. So, there is a kind of synthesis of patriarchalism and libertinism.

    In a way, the behavior of these men has exposed the schizo character of the decadent modern west. While we often excoriate the Muslim world for being sexually screwed up, so is the modern West. In the West, through a combination of hedonistic consumer-capitalism and Political Correctness, we have a culture where women are encouraged to dress and act like whores but where the men must restrain themselves and act like nice boys. This is a weird synthesis of profanity and puritanism. On the one hand, consumer-capitalism wants young people to be wild animals who fall for every new trashy fashion and fad. But law-and-order and Political Correctness want to maintain social order and to check ‘male chauvinism and piggery’. So, through combination of laws and social pressures, white men have been tamed like dogs even in the presence of girls-gone-wild. Also, our culture is so inundated with sexualized images that they no longer titillate men anymore. Who notices anything scandalous about Miley Cyrus? We feel Zzzzzzzzz even as we feel disgust.

    It took some time for the West to arrive at this synthesis. In the 60s when youth energy ran wild, there were lots of riots, rampage, violence, and craziness. Consider the mess of Woodstock and the disaster of Altamont. And Haight Asbury got real ugly. And there rock concerts where people got trampled to death. And this anarchy continued into the early 80s. Consider how NY was falling apart. As for Detroit, it totally went to hell.

    https://amietheauthor.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/the-haight-was-full-of-hate-the-true-story-of-the-summer-of-love/

    http://articles.philly.com/1988-05-13/news/26263620_1_english-teacher-teen-agers-rock-concerts

    So, in the 80s and 90s, the system came to control hedonism by both PC and new forms of law-and-order. So, in the West, rock and rap concerts are celebrations of wild barbarism BUT there is a lot of security and rules of conduct. So, people act crazy but in a controlled manner. It’s a kind of tamed barbarism.

    But the hick-like young ‘Muslim’ migrants who arrived fresh in the West don’t understand that synthesis of fun barbarism and social control. Western male is a like a dog that is allowed to slobber over but not lunge at a piece of raw meat held over him. The ‘Muslim’ migrants are like feral dogs who lunge at the raw meat cuz male nature, unconditioned by PC and law-and-order, acts that way.
    Unlike western men, the ‘Muslim’ migrant males arrived at the synthesis of puritanism and profanity.
    So, this isn’t just an Islamic issue. (After all, many black males in the West act far worse than white males do.)

    Indeed, consider the strange synthesis of degeneracy and censoriousness among the millennials. With heroes like Miley Cyrus, Beyonce, Nikki MInaj, Kanye West, Lady Gaga, internet access to porn from young age, TV shows of Lena Dunham, and etc, it could be said that millennials are the most debauched generation in terms of sexual outlook and attitude. They feel no shame about hookup culture and easy screwing. Emma Sulkowicz’s idea of communicating with men is sending texts like ‘fuc* me in the butt’. (Why didn’t Shakespeare, Emily Dickinson, or Elizabeth Browning think of that? “How I love thee, let me count the ways but first, fuc* me in the butt.”) And yet, millennials are also the most censorious, with only 50% believing in the First Amendment. They demand ‘safe spaces’ and freak out about fake ‘rape culture’ on college campuses. The only real rape culture is among black college athletes but that truth cannot be said cuz it might be ‘racist’. Millennials act like whores such as Lena Dunham but easily fall for witchhunt mentality like with the fake KKK hoax at Oberlin college. Or the totally loco UVA rape hoax, and before that, there was the hoax at Duke Lacrosse team. Our culture is a Whore Culture, not a rape culture. Whore Culture naturally invites Rape Culture, but law & order and PC work very hard to make sure that most men don’t give into the urge to hump the ho.

    Paradoxically enough, the culture of debauchery demands more social controls. Debauchery and decadence are, by their nature, destabilizing of human behavior and encourages people to act aggressively both for it and against it. So, in order for us to have more ‘fun’ debauchery and decadence, there must be more social controls. So, homos are no longer allowed to act so wild and crazy like they used to before the AIDS epidemic. Homos still do fruity things but with more discretion. And their homo parades has been remade like the new Las Vegas. It has been made ‘family friendly’. It’s racy but also made like colorful fun like Disney land.

    Also, when decadence and debauchery increase in society, the moralists begin to rise against it. And this could cause social friction.
    So, PC and law-and-order now work hand-in-hand to censor and suppress any moral outrage over the homo and tranny lunacy.

    Capitalist-consumerism makes profits by marketing and selling stuff that are sensationalist and racy. So, capitalism cannot say NO to decadence and debauchery. Also, Jews who control US and EU wanna use decadence and debauchery to undermine and weaken the moral fiber and resolve of the goyim, just like the Brits and Jews sold opium to Chinese to break their spirit.

    But since decadence and debauchery can unleash anarchic energies from those who love it and provoke moral rebellion from those who oppose it, there is a need more for law-and-order and more PC to control the hostilities.

    But at some point, the contradictions will overheat and blow up.

    And maybe the migrant crisis in Europe set off fireworks on one such contradiction.

    ————————–

    Some people say that Merkel is trying to be good, that she is driven by a moral impulse to make sure Germany doesn’t become Nazi again.
    I don’t think so. Would Merkel have done this if the globalist elites weren’t Jewish-Globalists?

    After all, Merkel’s actions don’t affect only Germany. Her actions are, ironically enough, rather Nazi-like. Nazis violated the boundaries of other nations and pressured Central European nations to obey Germany and serve as satellite states. Merkel’s attitude toward Poland, Czech Republic, and Hungary is the same. If HItler said, “let our tanks enter your countries”, Merkel says “let my migrants enter your nations as well.” If Germany must atone for WWII, why is Merkel trying to force former victim-nations of Nazi Germany to do as fuhrer Merkel says?

    Also, if Merkel is so haunted by the dark history of WWII, why is she working with Jews to destroy Russia? If Germans should feel any historical guilt, they should feel it in relation to Russians who lost 20 million lives. But Merkel feels nothing for Russians. She gladly works with Jews to economically choke Russia. So much for atoning for the sins of WWII.
    She is just a vile calculating bitch hag who will even sell anything down the river to be favored in the globo-elite club.

    What does she care if she loses Germany? People like Merkel and Hillary have lots of money stashed away. They will be showered with favors and money after they leave office. Even if Germany were to be lost, she could buy houses in London, Paris, Hong Kong, San Fran, and have a great life as one of the cosmopolitan elites. It is the regular Germans who will have lost everything in losing their nation.

    Rich people can lose their nations and still have the world. George Soros can buy a giant mansion in every nation even if he belongs to no nation. His wealth and happiness aren’t beholden to any single nation.

    But for the ordinary masses of any nation, all they have is their nation. They don’t have much personal wealth but they hold something of priceless value in having a nation of their own. But even this is being taken away from them by globalist scum like Merkel who don’t care if she loses Germany since she can live anywhere in the world with luxury and privilege.

    She’s the wicked witch of the West.

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    , @Anonymous
  121. nickels says:

    “So no. If the Swedes can be “swindled” by a small bunch of “Jewish activists” into importing all kinds of riff raff and scum then they are frankly idiots and as nations don’t deserve to survive. And neither do the Germans.”

    Precisely the sort if war mongering that leads to facism.

  122. Rurik says:
    @Charles Martel

    Pathetic. Soros tried all this “Jewish activism” in Eastern Europe and it fell fat on its face – Eastern Europe swung even further to the right. Read the Hungarian nationalists, they will make most Western “rightists” blanche

    I got that far

  123. Rurik says:
    @Charles Martel

    Why have they not managed to wreck these countries

    do they own the central banks of those countries?

    what about Iraq, does it now have a central bank?

    how about Libya?

    does Syria yet have a Rothschild central bank yet? Eh?

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  124. Talha says:

    Bingo! You hit this one on the head – these guys have Muslim names but they are far from any Muslim ideal. If I even mentioned to my spiritual teachers that I spent New Years Eve partying late at night and even just looking at women with lust I’m afraid they may have started me back at lesson one after years of spiritual effort. They were probably drunk as well since you can’t easily come by that as easily in Muslim countries either. Toxic mix.

    Much of the Muslim youth is hooked on the smut of the Internet (look at the viewing stats of various countries) and it is screwing them up. They are more apt to.become sexual predators. Which is why our religion says no to that stuff – full stop – there is no compromise – way too much at stake in the way of social cohesion and basic law and order.
    Debauchery and loose morals will sink any ship. There is a quote attributed to Saladin (may God illuminate his grave) that states, “If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery or nudity common in the young generation.” Adultery is usually a catch-all term in Arabic for fornication also.

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    , @Rurik
  125. Talha says:
    @Priss Factor

    If I may…I think the distinction you are making needs to be recognized because there is a level of love admiration that is natural and healthy for a people to have about their culture versus the toxic/cancerous one.

    I know from my tradition that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) spoke strongly against the concept of assabiyya which describes groupism (whether racial or national or tribal). He was noted to have stated that, “He is not one of us who calls to tribalism. He is not one of us who fights for the sake of tribalism. He is not one of us who dies following the way of tribalism.” Tribalism here is the Arabic word assabiyya which is very encompassing. He is also reported to state that, “There are indeed people who boast of their dead ancestors; but in the sight of Allah they are more contemptible than the black beetle that rolls a piece of dung with its nose.” Clearly denouncing atavistic chest thumping.

    However, he drew the line clearly when he was asked by someone, “Is it tribalism (assabiyya) for a man to love his people?” “No”, he answered, “tribalism is to support your people in an injust cause.”

    I think that is a standard any reasonable person would recognize.

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  126. Talha says:
    @Priss Factor

    Also…I may not agree with everything you are asserting but – man – am I loving those Kurosawa references you keep dropping. Wasn’t he a genius?? I just recently watched Harakiri – wow! Utterly brilliant! That be
    some good sound cinema, even from a traditional Muslim perspective.

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  127. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Charles Martel

    It is comical to think these were a people raised under brutal Bolshevism but they understand the value of their countries far better than the idiots in the West!

    They understand the value of their countries far better than the idiots in the West because they were raised under brutal Bolshevism. They recognise modern PC liberalism as a variant of Bolshevism.

    The Bolsheviks at the beginning promised exactly what the modern liberals promise – a Utopia of egalitarianism, democracy and progressivism. Five minutes after seizing power in the October 1917 coup they dropped the democracy stuff.

  128. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Priss Factor

    Indeed, consider the strange synthesis of degeneracy and censoriousness among the millennials.

    The modern West has turned out to be a lot like Huxley’s Brave New World – with complete sexual freedom being used to persuade people to accept the loss of all other freedoms. As long as Millennials have their porn and their hook-up culture and their slut walks and their LGBT degeneracy they don’t care about giving up freedom of speech or freedom under the law.

    And naturally Millennials have their drugs as well, again exactly like Brave New World – if they can’t cope they just pop another antidepressant.

    This of course started several generations ago but the Millennials are the first generation who accept all this unquestioningly.

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  129. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Talha

    Much of the Muslim youth is hooked on the smut of the Internet (look at the viewing stats of various countries) and it is screwing them up.

    Agreed. And to some extent this has been done deliberately. The United States has exported its sexual degeneracy to the world. It’s all part of the wonderful world of globalism. If this destroys other cultures that’s a bonus as far as the US elites are concerned. It makes it that much easier for the US to dominate the Middle East (and everywhere else). If you want to overthrow governments it’s a lot easier when the populations have been demoralised.

    The weird and evil thing about the modern West is that the domestic obsession with being anti-racist is combined with a breathtaking degree of racism and xenophobia when it comes to deal with the citizens of foreign countries living in their own countries.

  130. rvg says:
    @Talha

    So the entire nations of CHina, Japan, Korea, and Vietnam are mentally retarded because they practice ancestor worship? LOLWUT.

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  131. @Rurik

    You guys clearly have the answers. And don’t need to figure out anything else. The theory fits perfectly. Let me ask you. When was the last time you actually visited Germany? And when was the last time you met a real German? Sometime in the last ten years? Speaking for myself, my last trip was in November last year.

    Because if you believe that the majority of people in Germany would “tear Merkel limb to limb”, there are a few bridges in New York I would like to sell you.

  132. rvg says:

    A Muslim Germany will still have Mercedes-Benz, BMW, and Audi but will have no beer and pork, can’t be too bad.

  133. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    They are more apt to.become sexual predators. Which is why our religion says no to that stuff – full stop – there is no compromise – way too much at stake in the way of social cohesion and basic law and order.

    we are a different people

    we have different religions that fulfill our unique needs

    just as the architecture and culture of a city expresses something deep within the DNA of the people who built and thrive in them, so too do the different religions express the subtle degrees of ethnic differences between us. Islam is suited to the people of the Middle East and Africa because it’s more controlling of what they can’t control on their own. Their libidos for instance. And their primitive tribalism that makes them want to kill all the males of the ‘other’ tribe and rape their women. That is a very primitive but very real part of our ancient DNA. Europeans can go to nude beaches and see their women twerking around without needing to rape them on the spot. Blacks and browns, not so much.

    I’m not making any kind of new observation here. This is all very much well known and established, but rarely talked about. We’re all supposed to dutifully pretend that there is no difference between all the races. – Except of course that the white race is evil and guilty and needs to pay it karmic comeuppance debts to all the other races for the sins of slavery, colonialism and most of all of course, the Holocaust. Preferably by offering up their womenfolk (and their wombs) as interest on the “debt”.

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  134. Talha says:
    @rvg

    Nothing to do with intellectual capacity; the nations of the far east have their own unique and brilliant (and sometimes impressive) histories and narratives.

    Why is it strange that a strictly monotheistic religion would take a stance against ancestor worship or animism? I would think that is par for the course actually…

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  135. Talha says:
    @dfordoom

    Agreed, of the two brilliant Anglo-Saxon narratives for a doomed culture; Huxley or Orwell, looks like Huxley’s horse is set to come in first.

    Orgy-porgy seems to be the call of the day…kiss the girls and make them one, indeed.

    “Have you seen the one who has chosen his desires as his lord?” 45:23

  136. @Anonymous

    At the end of the war, Europe for the first time in its history was no longer master of its own destiny, but was instead under the domination of two great outer European powers, the United States and the Soviet Union, which for political and ideological reasons had no special interest in, or concern for, European culture or Western civilization.

    In the view of Charles A. Lindbergh, the world-famous author and aviator, the war was a great setback for the West. Twenty-five years after the end of the conflict, he wrote:

    “We won the war in a military sense; but in a broader sense it seems to me we lost it, for our Western civilization is less respected and secure than it was before. In order to defeat Germany and Japan we supported the still greater menaces of Russia and China – which now confront us in a nuclear-weapon era. Poland was not saved … Much of our Western culture was destroyed. We lost the genetic heredity formed through aeons in many million lives … It is alarmingly possible that World War II marks the beginning of our Western civilization’s breakdown, as it already marks the breakdown of the greatest empire ever built by man.”

    The outcome of the US and British role in the war moved British historian J.F.C. Fuller to write:

    “What persuaded them [Roosevelt and Churchill] to adopt so fatal a policy? We hazard to reply – blind hatred! Their hearts ran away with their heads and their emotions befogged their reason. For them the war was not a political conflict in the normal meaning of the words, it was a Manichean contest between Good and Evil, and to carry their people along with them they unleashed a vitriolic propaganda against the devil they had invoked.” *

    Even after the passage of so many years, this hatred has endured. American schools, the US mass media, government agencies and political leaders have for decades carried on a campaign of emotion-laden, one-sided propaganda to uphold the national mythology of World War II.

    The “Good War” Myth of World War II

    * nb. One of the themes Adam Curtis threads through the 2015 docu “Bitter Lakes” is the “Manichean contest between good and evil.” Reagan excelled in selling that simplistic propaganda. George H W Bush walked in footsteps of FDR when he invaded Iraq in 1990-91, “to make a better world.” We haven’t learned a thing. A nation moved only by hate.

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  137. @Intelligent Dasein

    “But the sooner the Sailerites and PUAs are torched out of the alt-right, the better.”

    Yes, if only you could shed your allies, the tides of victory would surely swing your way. ‘The Isolation Coalition,’ sounds like a winner.

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  138. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    This may be one possible explanation…

    Another possible explanation may be that the society has just become accustomed to overt sexuality such that things that would normally arouse, do not anymore. My spiritual teachers help people get over internet porn addiction, the men (even Muslim) plagued by this often cannot get normally aroused without medication. This is basic desensitization.

    Europe and the Christian world, up until around the start of the 20th century dressed almost indistinguishably from the Muslim world. Women often wore bonnets or hats (or in Eastern Europe, scarves) and had long, loose, flowing skirts. Sometimes the top of the bosom were exposed or things were a bit cinched around the waist, but that could vary slightly from culture to culture. In fact, dressing with less clothes was considered something the lowly and savage races of the world did – Christian Europe having conquered much of the known world and been exposed to such cultures from the East to the West. Am I saying anything that isn’t well documented (even in photographic terms) here?

    For the genetic or DNA narrative, one would would have to explain such a cataclysmic change as to have occurred within the the last three to four generations of that target race. And not just particularized to say a branch in the Scandanavians or strictly Anglo-Saxons or Irish, but across the board. I cannot, perhaps you can, possibly think of a sound scientific theory to arrive at that conclusion.

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    , @Rurik
  139. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website
    @Talha

    You gotta be trolling me.

    Surely you know HARAKIRI was directed by Kobayashi.

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  140. I cannot, perhaps you can, possibly think of a sound scientific theory to arrive at that conclusion.

    maybe not scientific but anecdotal:

    The campaign to destroy German womanhood by the most brutal and massive orgy of rape in recorded history, and to destroy German manhood as well, was intentional and thorough. Michael Ledeen said as much in a 1999 talk sponsored by pot-smoking cocaine-snorting bankster-fraudster head of Bear-Stearns Jimmy Cayne: USA & Allies carried out against Germany the same genocidal acts that Yahweh ordered Moses to deploy the Levites to carry out against Jews who were not fully on board the project of conquering the Promised Land: they were slaughtered, all but the Levites who did the slaughtering. Somehow, the remnant was condemned to wander in the desert until their generation had passed away and only their more pliable children permitted to reach the promised land.

    Several years ago I came across a front-page item in a 1950s newspaper that reported that the ratio of men-to-women in Germany was 1 to 13 (iirc). Most German women did not marry; many German women lived with other women, tho there was no suggestion in that 1950s paper of lesbian relationships. It’s not unreasonable to speculate that young German girls –and boys — developed abnormal attitudes about sexual identity and reproduction.

    As well, many German women bore the children of their rapists thus carried the genetic material of their rapists, who were the lowest of the low of Russian society. Despoiling the German gene pool was not accidental, it was deliberate — See Charles Lindbergh, #138 — just as the current wave of despoliation of German womanhood and German gene pool is deliberate, carried out by the same Levitic -Ledeenic Fiends (h/t Rurik).

    On the other hand, the Iranian people have been invaded, conquered, and suffered mass famine and massive deaths many times over their long history. As recently as World War I, as a result of British occupation and provisioning practices in Iran, that nation suffered a famine that claimed 40% of its population (see The Great Famine & Genocide in Iran: 1917-1919, by Mohammad Gholi Majd ); it took nearly 50 years to rebuild itself demographically to its pre-WWI status. Iran was neutral in WWI and also in WWII, but in both wars Iranians endured massive starvation and other forms of abuse at the hands of its occupiers, the USA, British and Russians.
    The Khomeini revolution included in its agenda policies that incentivized family formation and reproduction, as well as extensive support for male and female education from the very young through university; health care; extension of modern utilities to Iran’s rural populations, and best practices to preserve the environment and utilize scarce resources — like water and habitable land — effectively and prudently. (The wife of University of Virginia emeritus professor of Persian Studies R. K. “Ruhi” Ramazani has written and spoken extensively of reproductive practices and policies in revolutionary Islamic Republic of Iran.)

    Today, Iran has a large, young, highly educated rational and conservative population. I believe that is what scares the crap out of Anglo-zionists. Iran’s ancient political legacy of multiculturalism served it well over the years of invasion and cultural blending; today, there are at least seven identifiable cultural groups in the Iranian demographic. There’s a pecking order, but they have managed to get along lo these past 3000 years. I wish and hope the same for the German people.

  141. Talha says:
    @Talha

    Clarification – so I don’t get beat over the head – the statement “dressed almost indistinguishably” was a bit hyperbolic because obviously the clothes and designs and patterns were unique. I meant the principles were very similar; covering the hair (both men and women), generally loose fitting clothes, little exposure of skin.

    Here is one of my favorite scenes (actors are dressed as Anglo-Saxons circa 16th century):

    Are those Muslim Arab women or Christian Anglos? They aren’t nuns for sure since the scene preceding this is about the young man’s proposal for the young woman’s hand in her parent’s presence.

    I would posit, though this is obviously not a statement backed by science or research – just a gut feeling after having studied history, that the earlier generations of Europe (again just a few centuries ago) would tear their hair out in shock and revulsion at the sexual mores and fashion (the ubiquitous showing of skin and skin-tight clothing) of their latter day progeny. Maybe I’m wrong and they would be very proud at the complete freedom in the people and societies they birthed and what they have chosen to do with it in this regard (public sexual propriety).

    The narrative I personally see in play (and actually which was intimated earlier by Nietzsche as he looked upon Europe-after-God) is:
    “And be not like those who forgot God, so He caused them to forget themselves…” 59:19

  142. Talha says:
    @Priss Factor

    Yes – good point – I made a mistake. I thought for sure it was Kurosawa all this time because of the similar brilliance and thematic content and the lead man being Tatsuya Nakadai.

  143. Are those Muslim Arab women or Christian Anglos? They aren’t nuns for sure since the scene preceding this is about the young man’s proposal for the young woman’s hand in her parent’s presence.

    Alabama, USA 1964 – 1965 Anno Domino

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  144. Talha says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Sure…my point by including that clip showing historically dressed English women was simply that most European women dressed modestly a few centuries ago – not just the nuns.

    And I like your mention of the Persians and their amazing ability to withstand change, synthesize new cultures and grow. They have stood their ground after Greek, Byzantine, Arab, Turk, Mongol, Russian, British invasions. And, like you, I hope a better and stronger Germany emerges from these profound difficulties and changes.

    The Turks were also masters at this for a while – the Ottomans are unique as the longest-standing single dynasty in the history of man (nearly 600 years) – it is when they lost this ability that the various cultures under them revolted.

  145. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Martel

    So no. If the Swedes can be “swindled” by a small bunch of “Jewish activists” into importing all kinds of riff raff and scum then they are frankly idiots and as nations don’t deserve to survive. And neither do the Germans.

    If the media hadn’t covered up the truth about immigration-related crime this would all have stopped c. 10 years after it started i.e. 40+ years ago.

    So whoever is to blame the answer lies in the media.

    All you “Jew obsessed” guys are going to have to come up with some explanations when Israel ceases to exist – which it could do someday, through sheer weight of the problems it faces and intractable enemy it has in Iran (cunning, long term, ruthless opponent). But when Israel is gone, who will you blame for the suicide of Sweden and Germany? Jews? Which Jews where?

    easy enough to imagine unintended consequences
    1) let’s turn white people into a minority everywhere then we’ll be safe
    2) oops!

  146. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    Why is it strange that a strictly monotheistic religion would take a stance against ancestor worship or animism?

    The Koran says to kill them.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Talha
  147. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    You’re absolutely right that the West was only a few years ago far more modest and virtuous.

    The change has come about in large part by non-Westerners talking control of the money supply of the West, and using that near-absolute power to impose their decidedly non-Western values and norms on the West as by a syringe to the veins of the West. That syringe filled with the spiritual sewage being pumped into the veins of the West is the controlled media. Hollywood and Madison Ave and magazine and billboards and all sorts of moral rot galore.

    The West of fifty years ago was perhaps the pinnacle of human civilization. But since our culture has been sent through the sieve of those purveyors of porn and moral rot, it’s not the same kind of place. And that as you say, has nothing to do with DNA, except insofar as it’s being resisted and there’s still a lot of places in America and the West that are very traditional and quaint.

  148. @Ozymandias

    Save it. They’re no allies of mine.

  149. Talha says:
    @anon

    Nice…the whole “…slay them wherever…” right?

    Just so I am not misquoting you, you are saying (in essence), “Muslims are commanded to kill animists or ancestor worshipers (or other pagan/polytheists) without qualification/context/circumstance.” Does that correctly sum it up?

    If so, I have not found this position held by any of the four existing Orthodox Sunni schools of jurisprudence. I am willing to discuss, but you’ll need to put in some effort. Can you please find a counter reference for me in any of those schools (even in one of the minority opinions of any of them)? What the heck – you can even reference extinct schools like those of Imam Awzai, Layth, Qurtubi, Dawud Dhahiri (may God be pleased with them all).

    Again, I am willing to discuss, but I have four kids (and a cat) to raise and have had bad experiences where I dust off books of Islamic jurisprudence from my shelf to look up and reference a matter from an authoritative text only to have the other person completely ignore my point and return with a juvenile Pamela Gellar-like response full of vitriol and invective and totally un-civil. I’m not saying that’s you, but I’ve had enough of this happening on this and other forums to not want to go down that road. In the words of Damon Wayans, “Homie don’t play that.”

    My reference for the position above is the book ‘Ahkam al-Sultaniyyah’ (Rules of Governance) by the medieval scholar Imam Mawardi (may God illuminate his grave). Though Imam Mawardi writes from the position of the Shafi’i school, he references the strongest known positions from the other three schools on any subject IF they contradict the Shafi’i position. Thus any position he states without a counter opinion generally states the consensus opinion within the Sunni Orthodoxy. For a possible source for a counter opinion (after all, Imam Mawardi was not immune from error) you may want to look up “Bidayat al -Mujtahid” (The Primer for the Elite Jurist), being a similar work from the Andalusian scholar Imam Ibn Rushd or Averroes (may God raise his rank) from the Maliki school – though I highly, highly doubt you’ll find anything to the contrary.

    Volume one is here:
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Distinguished-Jurists-Primer-Volume/dp/1873938136

    I look forward to being enlightened by your research.

  150. Talha says:
    @anon

    Also, I should mention, please refrain from Salafi-Wahhabi sources as they have gone against Orthodox Sunni consensus in far too many matters and their understanding of and adherence to sound juristic principles is untenable

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    , @anon
  151. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    “But if a white sorority girl is gang raped on a crowded beach by favored first-class citizen eternal victims, then it’s nothing that the SJW consider of any consequence.”

    Patently false. SJW’s would find that incident deplorable.

    “The people never want it. It is always imposed by an unaccountable elite.”

    Then why were their various laws passed by Congress regarding immigration over the course of American history?

    
Moreover, who is this “unaccountable elite” you refer to? Are you that impotent as to challenge their authority?

    “But what I think needs to stop is for unaccountable and hostile others deciding for Germany or Sweden if they want to be multicultural.”

    

If that be the case, the rulers of those countries would have never been elected in the first place, since citizens would have been informed regarding their position on immigration.

    “Western men in general love freedom and freedom of expression and braless women expressing their freedom too.”



    LIBERAL men, yes. Conservative men? Absolutely not.

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  152. @Corvinus

    Liberal men****

    Liberal men love freedom speech when they hear their own beliefs. point.

    In other words, they dislike freedom speech, 😉

    None like ”freedom speech”.

    example

    ”Whites are totally guilty about black slavery”

    😉

    Or ”whites are the master race”

    😉

  153. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    Orthodox Sunni consensus

    you seem like a reasonable person Talha,

    what sort of reason can there be for the way the savages of ISIS are behaving towards their fellow Muslims? Just another anomaly? They quote the Koran before they execute the men and boys who they just tortured.

    Did you ever watch the video of Gadaffi being tortured to death? That was done by Muslims.

    Where is Allah as these Muslims crucify and sexually enslave Christian women?

    Where is Allah as the governments of Saudi Arabia and Jordan and all the rest look the other way as the Palestinians are relentlessly humiliated and tormented and oppressed generation after harrowing generation?

    Where is the justification for fellow Muslims to ignore their suffering?

    Can you imagine Jews ignoring such suffering perpetrated on fellow Jews and be so sanguine about it? Like the way the Saudi Sheiks spend their money on diamond encrusted sports cars while Palestinian children are randomly shot for target practice? I just don’t see Jews allowing other Jews to be openly genocided while they frolicked and schmoozed with the people who were doing the genociding. I give them far more credit than that.

    I have another question for you: Why do the Sunnis seem to hate the Shiites so much? And vice versa? I understand vaguely the silly religious disputes going back centuries, but this doesn’t explain the murderous hate as far as I can tell. It has to be something deeper. More tribal. How would you describe it, if you don’t mind my asking..

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  154. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    Dear Rurik,

    Your question was off-topic from my original post, but the praiseworthy etiquette in which you addressed your question obligates me to respond in kind.

    what sort of reason can there be for the way the savages of ISIS are behaving towards their fellow Muslims? Just another anomaly?

    This sanguinary – yes anomaly – raises its head every few centuries in the Muslim world. They almost always have the same attributes; 1) believe themselves to be the only ones on the right path, 2) believe all that oppose them are not just wrong, but not Muslim, 3) break with the consensus of the Muslim community of scholarship, 4) are sanguinary and harsh in their approach to almost any matter. The quote from the brilliant Shafi’i exegete Imam Ibn Kathir (may God raise his rank) sums these groups up:
    “If they ever gained strength, they would surely corrupt the whole of the Earth, Iraq and Shaam [Syria] – they would not leave a baby, male or female, neither a man or a woman, because as far as they are concerned the people have caused corruption, a corruption that cannot be rectified except by mass killing.”
    Here is their first manifestation (note they killed two of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs – both son-in-laws or the Prophet [pbuh] himself):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khawarij

    Here is another form Dhahiri extremists (note the banning of the books of other schools and forced conversion of Jews):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almohad_Caliphate

    All the way down to the Wahhabis who slaughtered hundreds of Muslims claiming them all to be apostates since they didn’t agree with their theological conclusions. The Prophet (pbuh) was reported to state, “There will be dissension and division in my nation and a people will come with beautiful words but evil deeds. They recite the Quran but it will not pass beyond their throats. They will leave the religion as an arrow leaves its target and they will not return until the arrow returns to its notch. They are the worst of the creation. Blessed are those who fight them and are killed by them. They call to the Book of Allah but they have nothing to do with it.”

    Shaykh Muhammad Yaqoubi (may God preserve him), a scholar with unquestionable Sunni Orthodox credentials, has written a refutation form a jurisprudence perspective:

    Did you ever watch the video of Gadaffi being tortured to death? That was done by Muslims.

    Could not bring myself to watch the whole thing – there is no reason to execute a man or torture him in such a barbaric manner, no matter what his crimes. Let me ask you if you really think those young men that did that either knew or even asked a qualified Muslim scholar on what should we do if we capture him or are we just looking at a lynch mob?

    Where is Allah as these Muslims crucify and sexually enslave Christian women?
    Where is Allah as the governments of Saudi Arabia and Jordan and all the rest look the other way as the Palestinians are relentlessly humiliated and tormented and oppressed generation after harrowing generation?

    Where He has always been…watching and recording…the Day of Judgement will be a very, very grave day. There are Muslims who are enslaving and raping women that they have no right to even touch and there are other Muslims losing their lives fighting against them – they are not equal. All nations have unanimously put our hands together and made a covenant that the door of slavery is closed – foul are those who want to open it again. The governments of the Middle East? Do you really think the same men who vacation in the West to cavort with prostitutes and drink and gamble base their decisions on Islam – other than to placate their population? The Ummayyads would not accept conversions INTO Islam because they did not want to lose the ability to use the jizyah to pay for their lifestyle (since the jizyah is fungible and discretionary, but the Muslim zakat is not and goes to the poor).

    Where is the justification for fellow Muslims to ignore their suffering?

    No justification, we will all be judged on our actions or lack thereof. There are many Muslims who are working day and night to make sure relief aid gets to the open air prison called Gaza.

    I have another question for you: Why do the Sunnis seem to hate the Shiites so much? And vice versa? I understand vaguely the silly religious disputes going back centuries, but this doesn’t explain the murderous hate as far as I can tell. It has to be something deeper.

    It wasn’t always like this, it ebbs and flows. For instance, Protestants and Catholics get along pretty well now, a few centuries ago – not so much. The Orthodox Sunni stance of the Shiah varies from group to group. For instance, the Zaydis are practically Sunni and some of their scholars, like the Yemeni hadith scholar Imam Shawkani (may God illuminate his grave) are considered authorities even among Sunnis. The Twelver Shiah (and I happen to be friends with some) have always been deemed to have heretical views, but heresy does not equal apostasy nor does a heresy automatically equate into oppression or killing. There have been a lot of heretical groups in the past; Jabbriyyah, Mu’talizah, Shiah, Qadriyyah (not to be confused with the Sufi order) and the Orthodox Sunni scholars always refuted them on a scholarly level, but I have never read in their books anything like a call to sultans to fight them except if they took up arms and caused disorder (which is really with any rebel group). The current Sunni-Shiah conflict is really a confluence of the fact that the Wahabbi influence is still going strong and the current political power struggle between the Saudis and Iran and their allies/satellites. When both Iran and Saudis were on the same page (before Khomenei) they got along more or less:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/look-long-fraught-relation-between-072345796.html

    When you look at the entirety of history, it gives you a much clearer picture of things. For instance, look at Germany and France, they have been pretty cordial for the last 60 years right? We take it for granted. But a look at history and you say, “Wow! I can’t believe these guys aren’t fighting! They’ve been at it for centuries!”

    What I can say about the current situation in the Muslim world (completely putting aside the fact that there has been foreign meddling whether military or political) is that we have a very toxic mix of people who are vastly ignorant of their religion (I have seen videos coming out of Pakistan where Muslims are bowing at shrines) and very, very angry – at their leaders and at each other – and they have left listening to qualified Muslims scholars such that random unqualified people are filling in the gap. This sanguinary mood needs to be lifted – and as a Muslim who is learning from his teachers about self purification – I can tell you, we (Muslims) can blame the whole world, but until we come to terms at how far we have fallen from our ideals, nothing will change. The anger will just flare until it consumes us.

    And in the words of the noble former Mufti of Pakistan Rafi Usmani (may God grant him a long life), “…an angry young man is in no one’s control…”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4711003.stm

    And we have way too many angry young men…and I myself remember being angry when I was younger until I found learned, righteous scholars that I felt exemplified the best of our tradition and helped me to channel that energy in a positive way.

    The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is reported to have said, “God will not deprive you of knowledge after he has given it to you, but it will be taken away through the death of the religious learned men with their knowledge. Then there will remain ignorant people who, when consulted, will give verdicts according to their opinions whereby they will mislead others and go astray.” Is this not our state?

    I hope I have done justice to your questions.

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  155. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Talha

    you are saying (in essence), “Muslims are commanded to kill animists or ancestor worshipers (or other pagan/polytheists) without qualification/context/circumstance.

    Yes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya

    • Replies: @Talha
  156. Talha says:
    @anon

    Nice – ad hominem attack…

    I am citing sources (authors and titles of specific texts) – how that possibly qualifies as taqiya (a particularly Shiah practice) I don’t know.

    (Sigh) I mean – I figured as much – but I thought I would give you the benefit of doubt and assume you wanted to engage seriously.

    Peace.

  157. Rurik says:
    @Talha

    Wow Talha,

    What a well researched and well written and thoughtful response.

    I learned much. I think one of the things most telling is the picture of the Saudi sheik with the Shah.

    Ok so there are intractable differences between Muslims based solely on interpretations of their faith. Tragic.

    And then of course those differences are being cynically manipulated by the Fiend to cause as much strife as possible- to suit the agenda of the Fiend.

    Here I should mention who it is that I refer to as the Fiend. Also known as ‘the Beast’.

    The Fiend is the agent of wars. It foists them by corruption and it feeds off of them and engorges itself on the blood flowing out of young souls and the treasure flowing into the MIC and big banks. It positions itself to profit from it all and it attempts to remake human and earthly realities suit its satanic, megalomaniacal id.

    It has stooges like John McCain and Hillary and Obama and Erdogan and Cameron and Hollande. The regime in Kyiv is fully a stooge of the Fiend as is the regime in Saudi Arabia and Jordan and most of the governments of Europe and N. America.

    The simplistic definition of the Fiend is the Rothschild central banks of the world. The Zionist Fed and the ECB. But it also encompasses arms manufacturers and multinational corporations whose only interest is profit.

    It’s true believers are those we call the neocons. Men like Sheldon Adelson and Rupert Murdoch. But its stooges include nearly every single Western politician in good standing with the axis of evil: London, NY and Tel Aviv. Including all the western MSM.

    Dissidents include scholars like John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt. Paleo-conservatives like Pat Buchanan and assorted patriots and truth tellers (like many here at Unz). Enemies of the Fiend include Vlad Putin and Edward Snowden. (Ironically, the heroes of the principles and ideals of the true West are holed up in Russia today. That just goes to show the length, breadth and reach of the Fiend).

    ~so~

    When I see that picture of the Saudi sheik with the Shah, all I can think of is the Fiend. In my lifetime, I suspect its difficult to imagine a more corrupt and traitorous tool on the world’s stage than the Shah. All I had to do was discover the details of the Shah’s ascent to power in Iran, and all the little minions of the Fiend who put him there. And then more to the point, how exactly he was kept there for so long. SAVAK. And who was behind SAVAC (the CIA and Mossad) to know that this man was an absolute enemy of the people of Iran (and humanity and freedom and truth). Much like what the west is saddled with. Enemies. Who can doubt today that Angela Merkel is an existential enemy of the German people? That George -WMD- Bush was and is an enemy of the American people and of the Constitution he swore an oath to? And that is how I see the Shah.

    And now even more so the House of Saud.

    So from all of that I’m of the conclusion that the government (if you can call it that) of the Sunni Saudi Arabia is simply little more than just another stooge of the ZioFiend. Like Turkey and Jordan and Iraq and what they’re trying desperately to impose in Syria today. For me it wasn’t a lynch mob that tortured Gadaffi to death. It was the Fiend. And that cackling grotesque gorgon who laughed at his demise is nothing more than a two bit whore willing to service the Fiend with endless rivers of innocent blood and mountains upon mountains of war debt. – which is the trough-slop that the war-pig Fiend engorges on relentlessly.

    (ranting here)

    and so as this tragedy unfolds, and as Muslim slaughters Muslim in the greater Levant, and Christian slaughters Christian in the Ukraine, and Europe is reeling from an existential invasion, and America is looted dry, and there seems to be no God in sight, perhaps you’re right and He’s been watching all along. And allowing Satan a free hand in the affairs of men, so He can sort out who’s worthy or not..

    But I doubt that. I see things in a little less theocratic and divinely purposeful view. I see us humans are barely evolved, and in much need of a spiritual renaissance. We need a God that will make us all understand that torturing and murdering each other and enslaving women and boys and raping the people who have invited you as guests in their countries is not Godly, but the opposite. But there’s no evidence of this kind of God out there. Just men with their eternal tribal hatreds and all too human insatiable greed. Nothing divine about it as far as I can see.

    I guess basically I see it as ‘it’s us against the Fiend’. As in all peace loving people who simply want to live and love and raise their children in a world with some shred of hope for the future, without the manipulated hatreds and contrived wars and rampant fraud. We need to find a way to end the Fed. It is the eye of Mordor that keeps regimes like the ones in Saudi Arabia propped up. As Egypt found out, it does no good to depose a stooge of the Fiend, as long as the power of the Fiend still controls the US, it will find a way to impose universal slavery and corruption one way or the other. That is what it does. War, hate and corruption are mother’s milk to the Fiend.

    Thank you very much for your reply. I enjoyed it and learned from it and may peruse some of the links again to allow some more of it to hopefully seep into my thick cranium.

    As-Salamu Alaykum

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  158. Truth says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Please consider that the utterly misguided priorities and selfish values of many of those white women may have been a major cause of white men marrying Asian women. In other words, your comment may get things backwards, although I understand your sentiment.

    So, white women’s faults are a cause of white men marrying outsiders, but white men’s faults are not a cause of white women dating outsiders? Is this the encapsulation here?

  159. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    Wa alaikum assalaam – most welcome.

    The ‘Beast’, ‘Fiend’, ‘Dajjal’, ‘Big Brother’. ‘Pharoah’ – it is known by many names – it is the machine that wants to fit us in as its gears or grind us through them.

    It is a large boot that has you underneath it; in Orwell’s view, “a boot stamping on a human face — forever…” and in Huxley’s view you are on your hands and knees bowing before the boot, licking the drugs off that you’re addicted to.

    But, even in these times – stay optimistic and fight the good fight.

    There is a movie called ‘Lion of the Desert’ which dramatizes the struggle of the Libyans under Shaikh Omar Mukhtar (may God elevate his status) against Fascist Italy. He is finally captured and the Italian general, Graziani, asks him, “Why did you keep going for so long? I mean, surely you didn’t hope to drive us out of Libya with so little, did you?” Mukhtar responds, “We fought you. That was enough.”

    May God preserve you and your family and grant you honor in this world and the next.

    End the Fed!

  160. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    Also, because you mentioned the SAVAK and the rule of the Shah and seem open to learning more about these things, I’ll mention something else most people don’t know about. That is that the secularization and brutality committed by the Shah and SAVAK in Iran (and unfortunately, our government’s support) led to a cataclysmic change in the theological/juristic Shiah landscape. That is the concept of ‘Vilayat-i-Faqih’ that was promulgated by Khomenei.

    A little history (I am trying to cut out details); Shiah history is full of intermittent revolts against the prevailing Sunni authority for corruption or degeneration (which was many times accurately stated). Those revolts would take place under the banner of their Imams (which were descendants of the Prophet Muhammad [pbuh]) – many of them being revered by Sunni and Shiah alike – until the Abbassids finally said enough and wanted to end it with the 11th of their line. This was important, because according to the Shiah, they were awaiting the 12th as the prophesied Mahdi to lead them to victory. The Abbassids had the 11th killed and the Shiahs say that his son (there is dispute whether he even existed or not) went into occultation and will arrive at the end of time as the Mahdi (the Mahdi being a figure shared by both Sunni and Shiah). The Abbassids probably allowed this idea to gain sway because, from their perspective, it meant no more Imams under which people would revolt. This happened in the 9th century. Whew – OK…

    From that point on – the Shiah have been very quiet and reluctant about politics, their consensus being that politics is corrupt and we cannot control government until the pure, incorruptible Mahdi comes, we can only advise the rulers. This was just fine as far as the Abbassids and the Ottomans were concerned. Centuries go by (the Safavids turn Iran from Sunni to Shiah to have an raison d’etre for their empire vis-a-vis the Ottomans) and…enter the Shah…and Khomenei…

    Things got so bad under the Shah that Khomenei promoted a radical concept called ‘Vilayat-e-Faqih’ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardianship_of_the_Islamic_Jurists#Clerics_in_politics_of_Iran). Which in his view called for control of government institutions by the jurists. This concept was not accepted by all Shiah jurists, in fact many leading Shiah jurists opposed him (and do to this day – even in Iran), “How can we assume leadership without the Mahdi?” – the position held for centuries. Khomenei eventually won out (after the death of his predecessor) and the rest is history…

    This, my friend, is blow back…when narrow-minded policies help awaken a giant that has been slumbering for centuries. And of course, we are watching the fallout…

    Note: Sistani could have easily assumed position of leadership in Iraq in the vacuum of Saddam since he was highly popular and nobody was there that could have generally opposed him. He did not due to religious grounds as he is a Shiah jurist of the level (or higher) than Khomenei was and disagrees with his view of comprehensive Vilayat-e-Faqih.

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  161. @Talha

    You know, since you mentioned the Shah and blowback, the West or the Indians or the Chinese or the Russians only care about the finer points of any of this only so long as there is oil there and oil remains the principal fuel for transport worldwide. Once that is over (and this may happen in a couple of decades), no one will care which Islamic sect is slaughtering which one (including the Russians).

    To repeat the words of Sheikh Yaki Zamani (former Saudi oil minister) in the context of the First Gulf War, if Iraq and Kuwait were two oil-less African countries, the Americans would have had zero concern for who invaded who and who occupied who. And to be honest, without oil revenues, neither Iran nor Saddam nor any of the Gulf states would amount to much militarily to pose a serious threat to anyone else because not much else of value comes out of the Islamic world. Pakistan has nukes but is otherwise an economic basket case that wouldn’t last more than a few weeks without IMF and American money.

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  162. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    Good job, finally someone on this site gets it.

  163. Talha says:
    @Charles Martel

    Spot on – that’s why everyone will whine about Boko Haram (BH) and propose to do zilch. I know a good brother who came back from a visit in Senegal – he was saying that BH has done far more carnage that ISIS – the West Africans know this.

  164. @Art

    Recently Pope Frances wanted to loosen the sanctions on divorce metered out by the bishops…

    That’s Francis. We don’t have a Pontiffa.

    The sanctions on divorce go back a little further than today’s episcopate:

    A ratified and consummated marriage cannot be dissolved by any human power or for any reason other than death— Code of Canon Law 1141.

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  166. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @BS Inc.

    In manufacturing, robots. But roofing and other construction work, gardeners and lawn services, nannies, housekeepers, restaurant kitchen employees, hotel/motel cleaners. The list of service jobs that are decades or centuries away from automation is practically endless.

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