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Memo to R. Douthat, D. Brooks: Your “Conservative Intellectuals” Are JUST NO GOOD
Which Is Why We Have Immigration And Cultural Marxism
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No doubt because of the impending presidential election, we’ve had some musings on the past and future of conservatism in the pages of the New York Times this past few days.

Ross Douthat [Email him] was first up with a column titled What The Right’s Intellectuals Did Wrong In the October 26th edition.

His very short answer, in three parts:

  • The follies of President George W. Bush delegitimized him, and the conservative intellectuals who supported him, in the eyes of conservative voters, leaving them susceptible to coarse populist appeals.
  • Conservative intellectuals looked too kindly on the new populist-conservative media outlets that have come up the past 25 years: talk radio, Fox News, the Drudge Report, Breitbart.com. These outlets, says Douthat, are “fact-averse and irresponsible.” Our intellectuals should have taken charge and disciplined them, instead of smiling indulgently at their populist caperings, says Douthat.
  • Conservative intellectuals, powered by populist energy, should have conducted a Long March through the institutions of the managerial state: the academy, the Main Stream Media, the courts, the bureaucracy. They failed to do this.

Result, according to Douthat:

So it is that today, three generations after Buckley and Burnham, the academy and the mass media are arguably more hostile to conservative ideas than ever, and the courts and the bureaucracy are trending in a similar direction.

Two days later, October 28th, David Brooks [Email him] took up the issue in a column headed The Conservative Intellectual Crisis.

Again, he fingers three causes of the crisis. We’re really in the realm of Threeness here. I refer interested listeners to the last segment of my October Diary here at VDARE.com for more explorations of that realm.

  • Talk radio, cable TV and the internet have taken conservatism down-market, coarsening it so it no longer appeals to thoughtful, educated people.
  • Conservatives have put too much faith in politics: “Recently conservatism has become more the talking arm of the Republican Party.”
  • Conservatives have been too hostile to the idea of government as a tool for social good. It has offered nothing to hard-pressed working- and middle-class Americans.

That’s David Brooks’ three-part diagnosis.

tobaccoroadIf you got a whiff of snobbery in all that, especially from Brooks’ piece, your sense of smell is working just fine. What a shame that the genteel, cultured salons of the intellectual Right got invaded by tobacco-chewing hillbillies with mud on their boots!

But that’s not my main problem with Douthat and Brooks. I don’t mind intellectual elites, and I don’t in fact believe you can have rational politics without them. I just don’t think the elites we actually have right now are any good.

The liberal elites are in fact terrible: dishonest, corrupt, and in thrall to magical superstitions about human nature and society. The conservative elites Douthat and Brooks are writing about are not thatbad, but they need seriously to revise some of their premises.

Buckleyite conservatism was a stool with three legs. (See, I can do the threes business with the best of them!)

  • The Cold War.
  • A good large cohort of believing Christians in the educated class.
  • The unquestioned assumption that public affairs, both national and international, were a game played among white Europeans.

DoomedNone of those three things is any longer the case. The Cold War is a whole generation in the past. Religious devotion among educated Americans is fast draining away, for reasons I explained at length in Chapter Eight of We Are Doomed. And in one more generation, give or take a year or two, white Europeans will be a minority in the U.S.A., and quite possibly in large parts of Europe itself, too.

America’s conservative intellectuals have not made the necessary adjustments. That’s what accounts for their irrelevance and impotence.

They have, I’ll allow, acknowledged the end of the Cold War. They’re in denial, though, about the weakening of Christianity in our hedonistic welfare state. As for what a much earlier American writer called “The Rising Tide of Color,” conservative intellectuals like Douthat and Brooks are terrified to speak about it because they have internalized the social taboos about race talk imposed by the Liberal Establishment.

With no more Cold War as a unifying principle, no more consensus on the centrality of religious faith to their program, and no courage to stand up to the race bullies, our conservative intellectuals are reduced to ineffectual arm-flapping–leaving citizens of a conservative temperament with nowhere to turn but to populism. And so, that’s where we turn.

Unless, of course, ineffectual arm-flapping is your thing; in which case I recommend the efforts of Ross Douthat and David Brooks.

For example: How are things going in Europe with that mass Third World immigration Enoch Powell warned about in such alarmist phrases 48 years ago?

  • Britain

The current talking point: a report out of Open Democracy, a Left-liberal think-tank, about racial segregation in Britain. Sample headline : Call for action to tackle growing ethnic segregation across UK. By Anushka Asthana and Nazia Parveen , The Guardian, November 1, 2016.

The segregation, which is of course voluntary, is massive. Muslims want to live among Muslims, blacks want to live among blacks, and white British people don’t want to live among either.

White flight has been dramatic. In last week’s podcast, I mentioned my uncle Fred, who lived in the Aston district of Birmingham until he died last year. When I stayed there with them in my childhood sixty years ago, there was nobody in Aston but working-class white English people, with a few Irish Catholics for variety. This new report lists Aston as still 45 percent white in 1991. In 2011, twenty years later, it was down to 14 percent white.

The London borough of Newham, where I bought my first house (right) in 1970, was 34 percent white in 2001. Ten years later it was half that, 17 percent. In the Northern town of Blackburn, billed as one of the most segregated towns in Britain, one newspaper reporter found a butcher who declared he had never served a white person in the entire year he’s been in business.

Not that there is no contact at all across the race lines. Every couple of years there is another news story about Muslim men raping and prostituting white British teenage girls: “grooming” is the newspaper euphemism. Quote from one such story, the men in this case being Somalis, quote:

Several of the girls … believed the sexual abuse was part of loving relationships they were having with the defendants, and that having sex with their “boyfriend’s” friends was part of their “culture and tradition.”

somalirapists

[ 13 Somali men convicted of running prostitution ring in Bristol, By Lucy Crossley,Daily Mail, November 27, 2014]

Multiculturalism, you see?

In short, a complete failure of integration and assimilation–just as Enoch Powell predicted.

The authors of the report recommend unspecified measures to encourage white Britons to stay put when minorities colonize a district. The rationale here is presumably Contact Theory, which says that prejudice arises from isolation and ignorance, and that when people get to know each other prejudice melts away.

Contact Theory was launched by American psychologist Gordon Allport back in 1954. Subsequent events, and indeed subsequent research in the human sciences, have shredded it. We now know that familiarity mostly breeds not harmony and understanding but rancor and conflict.

  • France

Crossing the English Channel, we find ourselves in France, whose capital city, once a favorite with tourists for its elegance, beauty, and civilized life, is now a dogpit of warring African and Middle Eastern street gangs.

It got worse this week after French authorities demolished a huge camp of illegal aliens near Calais. A big group of the illegals headed for Paris, where they got into running street battles with illegals from Afghanistan and Eritrea already camped there–right there in the streets of Paris:

A mass brawl broke out as migrants in Paris attacked each other with sticks —hours after authorities moved in to smash up an illegal city centre camp. Pictures show men lunging at each other with makeshift clubs last night next to a row of tents in the Stalingrad district of the French capital.

Amid chaotic scenes, gangs of men were seen brandishing pieces of wood and squaring up for a street battle.

Migrant battle on the streets of Paris: Large gangs of men armed with makeshift clubs fight each other after Calais Jungle camp is destroyed, By Peter Allen In Paris and Julian Robinson, MailOnline, November 2, 2016

  • Germany

From the UK Express:

During the first six months of 2016, migrants committed 142,500 crimes, according to the Federal Criminal Police Office.[‘We are losing control of the streets’ Merkel’s Germany descends into lawlessness, by Siobhan McFadyen, November 2, 2016]

And Germany has been hit by a spate of horrendous violent crime including rapes, sexual and physical assaults, stabbings, home invasions, robberies, burglaries and drug trafficking.

ORDER IT NOW

German police say they are losing control of the streets to the foreign invaders. In Leipzig, a ten-year-old girl was raped by an illegal. In the town of Bautzen, in the far east of Germany, there are regular street battles between local Germans and illegals. [GERMANY AT BOILING POINT: Furious mob takes to streets hunting and attacking migrants, By Allan Hall, UK Express, November 3, 2016]

  • Denmark

Denmark has its own report on white flight .[MP blasts ‘soft-touch’ migrant policy as Denmark struggles with 31 ghettos , By Lizzie Stromme, UK Express, November 2, 2016 ] That nation now has 31 ghettos, says the government, defined as areas with more than 50 percent minority residents.

  • Sweden

Swedish police are struggling to cope with a massive crime wave caused by immigrants. There are now 52 areas where police officers can’t cope with the levels of crime being committed, according to the government. [Sweden on the brink? Police force pushed to breaking point by violence amid migrant influx, By Lizzie Stromme, UK Express, November 2, 2016] Arson against automobiles is especially popular. The city of Västerås, in central Sweden, population 110,000 has seen 88 cars set alight so far this year. Sweden’s police forces are seeing mass resignations of officers.[ Arson attacks carried out by migrants are fault of ‘racist Swedes’ – says refugee, Lizzie Stromme, UK Express, October 31, 2016] And so on. This is the great catastrophe of our time: The willed self-destruction of Western civilization by nations that have disarmed themselves before the enemy, disarmed themselves with sentimentality and guilt and crazy economic fantasies.

We all thought the Third World War would be fought between Russia and the West, in mighty tank battles on the plains of Eastern Europe; or else between China and the U.S.A. in the Western Pacific, with carrier groups and submarines chasing each other around the sea and Marines storming up the beaches of tropical islands.

No: This is World War Three, the First World vs. the Third World. To date, the First World is losing. Losing? It’s barely even fighting.

An admirable outfit named the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation released a report in October on American attitudes to communism and socialism. It makes depressing reading, especially those parts dealing with knowledge and opinions among millennials —that’s people born from the early 1980s to the mid 1990s.

Sample: Of those millennials familiar with Vladimir Lenin, 25 percent have a favorable view of him.

And oh —did you know? —the American Communist Party is backing Mrs. Clinton’s candidacy. Mrs Clinton has of course loudly repudiated their support when challenged about it by interviewers. Oh, wait …

In related news, here’s a chap named Duke Pesta, currently an associate professor of English at the University of Wisconsin, Oshkosh. Every year at the beginning of the school year Prof Pesta gives quizzes to his students to test their knowledge on basic facts about American history and Western culture.

He declares that students overwhelmingly believe that slavery was a phenomenon exclusive to the United States: “Most of my students could not tell me anything meaningful about slavery outside of America.“

It goes without saying that they know nothing about the history of communism, either.

These are the fruits of decades of utterly corrupted education, the corruption seeping down from our universities, to the schools of education, to the high schools and elementary schools. We now have a whole generation raised with a radically false view of the past. History has been rewritten, and the rewritten version prevails.

The triumph of Cultural Marxism could not be more plain–nor could the ineffectuality of the “conservatism” that Ross Douthat and David Brooks are waxing nostalgic over.

(Reprinted from VDare.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Another problem is ‘thoughtful and educated’ conservatives subscribe, in the main, to economic theories and models that have failed. If Greenspan and Bernanke are the sort of Republican economists Brooks and Douthat admire then I suggest we reserve a place in the tumbrels for them when the bottom falls out of the economy they built.

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    It is undeniably true that the present generation of students have received false impressions of the world and consequently don’t understand it. If it is also true that “The wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly fine”, then twenty years from now, there may be a lot of really pissed off people. Nothing makes people madder than to realize that they have been duped.

    There is an irony here. Marx believed that a person’s consciousness was determined by the material conditions of economic production which dictated their economic class. Today’s leftists don’t give a hoot about changing the consciousness of working louts by altering the conditions under which they labor. Instead they are trying to recondition people by changing vocabulary and definitions of words, by misdirecting their attention and other mental legerdemain.

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    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    no that wont happen how many collapses have we seen ratchet up the socialism and each time the cause eas said to be the conservatives or nor enough socialism now thats not even argued because its all down to race anything that is pro-minority is a good period end of conversation, if you argued it will destroy western civilization [ which its frankly a wonder we are still standing with a quadrillion in credit default swaps to asy nothing of the rest] they would simply say the west must fall needs to fall is evil and must go
  3. The so-called Cultural Marxist function or behave as a enormous professional victim cult.

    Professional victim cultists are recognized by the US and Israeli governments as protected class groups.

    Protected class group people are recognized by mafia media mavens as being generally worthy of illicit government entitlements because of their special status of being disadvantaged, underprivileged, oppressed or underrepresented.

    Protected class group people are collectively a loosely organized, super-majority of voters in the US and Israel.

    Below is a listing of the protected class groups recognized by the US and Israeli governments:

    African American, Alternate Lifestyle, Asian, Disabled, Hispanic & Latino, Jewish, Native American, Women

    http://www.mindexchange.com/diversity.htm

    President Obama has been lobbying to have middle eastern, north African (MENA) people recognized by the federal government as yet another government protected class group.

    Immigration policy is not spared as a means to rectify the persecution hysteria of protected class group people.

    Both the US and Israel have biased immigration polices in favor of protected class group people.

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    • Replies: @WorkingClass
    African American, Alternate Lifestyle, Asian, Disabled, Hispanic & Latino, Jewish, Native American, Women and maybe MENA people. All of whom are oppressed by white men. Obviously white men cannot lobby for inclusion. Who would serve as oppressor? What can white men do to escape being isolated and blamed for all the problems of the world? I think secession will be the answer led by white men since white men alone are in a position to see who the real oppressors are.
  4. Regarding Brooks and Douthat. Posturing and preening does not an intellectual make. These insufferable snobs are pseudo intellectuals. Deplorables such as myself, if they are even aware of these ass holes, hate them. Not for their pomposity so much as their unearned respect and prosperity.

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  5. Conservatism intellectual is almost an oxymoron. There is a revolutionary element needed for ideological movements. What people like George Will do is hold back the dam by derailing and putting up smokescreens about big government, school choice, and so forth when everyone knows that the real discussion is race, gender, nationalism etc.

    Until they want to address the culture war head on, the public will always view conservative intellectualism as an exercise in convoluted excuse-making.

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    • Agree: Ace
    • Replies: @SMK
    As Sartre's lover and acolyte wrote long ago in "The Second Sex," "One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman." Her pointe is that humans are born male and female -how could on argue otherwise!- but that culture and society turns them into "men" and "women." In current feminist parlance, "gender" (masculine/feminine) as opposed to sex (male/female) is an "artificial social construct."

    Thus to use the word "gender" in lieu of sex is to espouse and advance feminist mythology, consciously or unconsciously, intentionally or unintentionally: the fantasy and dogma that the sexes are exactly the same apart from the inescapable differences in anatomy and the resultant vision of a utopian society in which boys and girls and men and women are equal in virtually all areas and aspects of life and all forms of "sexism" are abolished by inculcation and thought-control or at least suppressed by criminal and non-criminal penalties; in reality a dystopia that could only be imposed and sustained by a totalitarian regime. Yes, feminist ideology is inherently totalitarian.
  6. Contact Theory … “when people get to know each other prejudice melts away.”

    Well, it’s true, but not in the way the social “scientists” wanted it to be true. Familiarity leads to accurate knowledge of the good and bad aspects of a group. Social “scientists”, operating within the microuniverse of their own bizarre psychotic bigotries, assumed that accurate knowledge must be false because it disagreed with their delusions.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Only the deemed better angels of our nature are permissible, and our self-appointed betters instruct us that the others are not to be noticed.
  7. conservative intellectuals like Douthat and Brooks are terrified to speak about it because they have internalized the social taboos about race talk imposed by the Liberal Establishment

    This is specifically clear over at, for instance, The American Conservative, where even otherwise reasonable and reasonably tolerant moderate conservatives like Dreher and Larison are very quick to censor perfectly reasonable comments that cross the line of the leftist race talk taboo.

    Overall, it’s unsurprising that the likes of Douthat and Brooks have to engage in such comical contortions to try to explain the defeat of conservative intellectuals, when they themselves are such perfect exemplars of the very same abject surrender to leftist dogma on race, on religion, on nation and on sexual politics that is itself the explanation.

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  8. The rationale here is presumably Contact Theory, which says that prejudice arises from isolation and ignorance, and that when people get to know each other prejudice melts away.

    I’m not familiar with the academic debate (life’s too short to investigate all the various kinds of such nonsense that permeate the social “sciences”), but it seems obvious that this idea must rest on the presumption that there is no underlying reality that justifies and promotes “prejudice”. This assumption and approach has been adopted by the radical left also in the use of enforced familiarisation by media exposure, with both racial minorities and with sexual deviants.

    There’s clearly some element of truth in it, particularly in relation to sexual deviance, where the natural hostility is in large part an inherent and natural disgust aversion response, which can certainly be suppressed by repeated exposure (people who work with dirt become much less bothered about it being around). The left has had considerable success in socially engineering reduced theoretical hostility in society towards both people of different races and people who choose to engage in deviant sexual activity, just by repeatedly exposing people to sanitised and appealing images of them on TV and in films.

    The problem comes when the reality turns out to be different from the sanitised image.

    I’ll venture to suggest that the problems are much greater with racial differences than with differences in sexual behaviour, in general. And an awful lot of nice, well brought up, respectable white kids are going to have very painful lessons in life, as a result of the “noble” lies their parents and their parents’ generation in general have told them, as part of the learning process.

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  9. . I don’t mind intellectual elites, and I don’t in fact believe you can have rational politics without them

    .

    Sorry Derb, most “intellectuals” could not pour urine from a boot, even if you wrote the instructions on the bottom for them. We could get along just fine without 99% of them.

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  10. “Conservative Intellectuals” … who work for the New York Times. Uh, yeah, right. Management regards them as useful … something.

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  11. Brooks is a neocon and is thus out of the picture. Douthat? Ehhhh…think you’re being a little harsh on ol’ Ross, Derb.

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    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    Brooks is also a far left liberal I realize the left goes even farther in these days of giving your 4 year old hormones lingerie for a sex change but by any reasonable scale hes a far lefty
    watching him on pbs the other noght i so desperately wanted to get five minutes in a room with him and beat him into a paste
    , @Colleen Pater
    The problem is we have allowed the left to move us into position where its a genocidal war or suicidal submission, humans have an ability to convince themselves of the longest odds watching where we are I now get why the jews didnt fight back
    , @Patrick Harris
    Brooks has interesting things to say on occasion, but he's a neocon social liberal and operates under most of the assumptions that entails. You're right that Douthat is something different. Douthat is the kind of religious, paleocon-leaning "reform" conservative who knows who Steve Sailer is and finds him fascinating, if slightly disreputable. I'd put him in that category with Michael Brendan Dougherty, Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry, and Rod Dreher (whom I know everyone loves to hate around here, but he's not a neocon like Brooks).
  12. that’s right derp! conservatives gotta get even more bigoted, racist, and believe believe believe with all their might in religious fairy tales – but only the christian brand.
    problem is, conservatives are afraid of change. that does not bode well in an ever-faster changing world.
    and he’s right about douchehat & bricks. conservatives can’t find fine salons to discuss compelling issues facing the genteel set. unless conservatives head to a nascar race or a rodeo they’re all alone in a world of limp-wristed liberal freaks.
    ah, the good old days when you could hang a nigga or a homo and nobody cared.

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    • Replies: @Sgt. Joe Friday
    "That's right! Liberals gotta get even more tolerant, inclusive, and believe believe believe with all their might in secular fairy tales - but only the gaia worshipping, race creationst, single mom as deity brand.

    "problem is, liberals believe in change for change's sake. that does not bode well in an ever-faster changing world.

    "and he's right about dowd and olbermann. liberals can't find fine salons to to discuss compelling issues facing the right thinking set. unless liberals head to a spirit cooking or BLM rally they're all alone in a world of cisgendered heteronormative right wing freaks. ah, the good old days when you could ruin a career or call somebody a crypto-nazi and all the right people thought that was OK."

    There. Fixed that for you.
    , @Ace
    Well, that takes care of my daily dose of incoherence.
  13. @polistra
    Contact Theory ... "when people get to know each other prejudice melts away."

    Well, it's true, but not in the way the social "scientists" wanted it to be true. Familiarity leads to accurate knowledge of the good and bad aspects of a group. Social "scientists", operating within the microuniverse of their own bizarre psychotic bigotries, assumed that accurate knowledge must be false because it disagreed with their delusions.

    Only the deemed better angels of our nature are permissible, and our self-appointed betters instruct us that the others are not to be noticed.

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  14. […] Memo to R. Douthat, D. Brooks: Your “Conservative Intellectuals” Are JUST NO GOOD (John Derbyshire, VDARE) […]

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  15. @Lawrence Fitton
    that's right derp! conservatives gotta get even more bigoted, racist, and believe believe believe with all their might in religious fairy tales - but only the christian brand.
    problem is, conservatives are afraid of change. that does not bode well in an ever-faster changing world.
    and he's right about douchehat & bricks. conservatives can't find fine salons to discuss compelling issues facing the genteel set. unless conservatives head to a nascar race or a rodeo they're all alone in a world of limp-wristed liberal freaks.
    ah, the good old days when you could hang a nigga or a homo and nobody cared.

    “That’s right! Liberals gotta get even more tolerant, inclusive, and believe believe believe with all their might in secular fairy tales – but only the gaia worshipping, race creationst, single mom as deity brand.

    “problem is, liberals believe in change for change’s sake. that does not bode well in an ever-faster changing world.

    “and he’s right about dowd and olbermann. liberals can’t find fine salons to to discuss compelling issues facing the right thinking set. unless liberals head to a spirit cooking or BLM rally they’re all alone in a world of cisgendered heteronormative right wing freaks. ah, the good old days when you could ruin a career or call somebody a crypto-nazi and all the right people thought that was OK.”

    There. Fixed that for you.

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    Sailer 4 years ago:

    “The message you’ve heard ever since the election is that the Republicans lost because of the amnesty issue and therefore they must agree to amnesty and a path to citizenship. You know, the New York Times and the POTUS have all been explaining to the Republican Party how they need to pass amnesty right now for their own good. And, as I said earlier, if Republicans can’t trust the leadership of the Democratic Party to look out for their partisan interests, who can they trust?”

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  17. @Anonymous
    It is undeniably true that the present generation of students have received false impressions of the world and consequently don't understand it. If it is also true that "The wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly fine", then twenty years from now, there may be a lot of really pissed off people. Nothing makes people madder than to realize that they have been duped.

    There is an irony here. Marx believed that a person's consciousness was determined by the material conditions of economic production which dictated their economic class. Today's leftists don't give a hoot about changing the consciousness of working louts by altering the conditions under which they labor. Instead they are trying to recondition people by changing vocabulary and definitions of words, by misdirecting their attention and other mental legerdemain.

    no that wont happen how many collapses have we seen ratchet up the socialism and each time the cause eas said to be the conservatives or nor enough socialism now thats not even argued because its all down to race anything that is pro-minority is a good period end of conversation, if you argued it will destroy western civilization [ which its frankly a wonder we are still standing with a quadrillion in credit default swaps to asy nothing of the rest] they would simply say the west must fall needs to fall is evil and must go

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  18. @Connecticut Famer
    Brooks is a neocon and is thus out of the picture. Douthat? Ehhhh...think you're being a little harsh on ol' Ross, Derb.

    Brooks is also a far left liberal I realize the left goes even farther in these days of giving your 4 year old hormones lingerie for a sex change but by any reasonable scale hes a far lefty
    watching him on pbs the other noght i so desperately wanted to get five minutes in a room with him and beat him into a paste

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    • Replies: @dahoit
    Brooks is a zionist dweeb moron who should be on the side of highways picking up litter.
    Hes as intellectual as my cats.
    Just like every pos MSM scum losers for zion.
  19. @Connecticut Famer
    Brooks is a neocon and is thus out of the picture. Douthat? Ehhhh...think you're being a little harsh on ol' Ross, Derb.

    The problem is we have allowed the left to move us into position where its a genocidal war or suicidal submission, humans have an ability to convince themselves of the longest odds watching where we are I now get why the jews didnt fight back

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  20. Related tweet storm about this by me.

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  21. “Pictures show men lunging at each other with makeshift clubs last night next to a row of tents in the Stalingrad district of the French capital.”

    Well, that neighborhood was certainly named with prescience.

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  22. Gay marriage, transsexual liberation, blacks rioting and looting, whites denigrated in virtually every channel of popular culture, marxism and anti-white propaganda spewed from every university lecture hall and from many church pupits – if any conservative National Review reader from the 1950s could be transported to modern-day America, he would view it as being not remotely conservative at all. He would probably see it as some bizarre mash-up of the Paris Commune and Caligula’s Rome.

    What have any of these contemporary conservatives succeeded in conserving?

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    • Replies: @dfordoom

    What have any of these contemporary conservatives succeeded in conserving?
     
    Their fat pay cheques.
    , @5371
    Someone ought to make a meme of Nero with Sporus or Doryphorus entitled "Love Wins".
  23. @Mr. Anon
    Gay marriage, transsexual liberation, blacks rioting and looting, whites denigrated in virtually every channel of popular culture, marxism and anti-white propaganda spewed from every university lecture hall and from many church pupits - if any conservative National Review reader from the 1950s could be transported to modern-day America, he would view it as being not remotely conservative at all. He would probably see it as some bizarre mash-up of the Paris Commune and Caligula's Rome.

    What have any of these contemporary conservatives succeeded in conserving?

    What have any of these contemporary conservatives succeeded in conserving?

    Their fat pay cheques.

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  24. @Mr. Anon
    Gay marriage, transsexual liberation, blacks rioting and looting, whites denigrated in virtually every channel of popular culture, marxism and anti-white propaganda spewed from every university lecture hall and from many church pupits - if any conservative National Review reader from the 1950s could be transported to modern-day America, he would view it as being not remotely conservative at all. He would probably see it as some bizarre mash-up of the Paris Commune and Caligula's Rome.

    What have any of these contemporary conservatives succeeded in conserving?

    Someone ought to make a meme of Nero with Sporus or Doryphorus entitled “Love Wins”.

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  25. “President Obama has been lobbying to have middle eastern, north African (MENA) people recognized by the federal government as yet another government protected class group.”

    Obama and the democrats know the majority of Americans want Muslim immigration stopped. By making Mena group a protected class the democrats will make it harder to stop Muslim immigration from the dangerous Middle east by stigmatizing opposition to Muslim immigration as racial discrimination instead of religious discrimination.

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  26. What the Hell does David Brooks know about conservatism? He is not a conservative, and none of the people in his milieu are conservative. He’s the NYT’s phony conservative.

    As for what a much earlier American writer called “The Rising Tide of Color,” conservative intellectuals like Douthat and Brooks are terrified to speak about it because they have internalized the social taboos about race talk imposed by the Liberal Establishment work for leftist employers, at leftist publications, surrounded by leftists.

    FIFY. Doesn’t really matter what they’ve internalized; if they get uppity, they’re gone, and replaced by new Uncle Toms.

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  27. unless conservatives head to a nascar race or a rodeo

    Blacks, the world’s stupidest demographic, overwhelmingly votes Democrat. Leftists have a total lock on the world’s stupidest (and least educated, most violent, most dysfunctional, most welfare-dependent, etc.) voters.

    Next up are hispanics, who are also heavily Democrat. Can’t even get them to stop trying socialism in their home countries.

    Ah, the good ole days, before the internet, when leftist oligarchs controlled every means of communication. Amirite?

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  28. Learning the nature of the Cold War and Soviet history is beyond the grasp of Anglo-Saxon “academe”, for a number of reasons. As Madison noted in federalist Papers: “bad cause seldom fails to manifest itself”. When views of the outside world are formed by narratives not by observations, Doughats, Buckleys and likes will continue to happen thus continuously re-generating Chalabi moments, or, rather, never-ending Chalabi state. So called “Cultural Marxism”, in reality, has very little to do with Marxism but rather is an organic natural degeneration of Western “elites” and has more to do with WW II, and 1960s counter-culture than actual Marxism. Yeah, yeah, I know what Frankfurt School is and all that but I think Christopher Caldwell is more on point on this matter than any intellectual constructs attributing those failures to some “Cultural Marxism”. But then again, WW II history (a real one) is not a strong forte’ of Anglo-American intellectual class, bar some very significant by few exceptions.

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    So called “Cultural Marxism”, in reality, has very little to do with Marxism but rather is an organic natural degeneration of Western “elites” and has more to do with WW II, and 1960s counter-culture than actual Marxism.
     
    I'm more and more coming to the same conclusion. Although I think the decadence of western elites began much earlier than WW2, possibly even as early as the closing years of the 19th century.

    But why did western elites become decadent and degenerate?
  29. I think Douthat knows what’s up, but he also knows who cuts his check. BTW, it’s my pet peeve when people use “white” or “white British” in this context, they are English or British. No one says “black Somali.”

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  30. The solution is obvious – whites in Europe and the US need to rise up and kill our political leaders and the elites. At this point I’d have to say it isn’t going to happen. We are the frogs in the increasingly warmer water – when the grubers finally get a clue, it will be too late.

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  31. Douchehat and Brooks aren’t “conservatives” nor are they any sort of cognitive elite. Both are little more than monkeys with tin cups who dance to the tunes of the establishment and political class.

    In short they are little more than paid propagandists and very few people care what these clowns write.

    And oh the conservative movement doesn’t need any elite or intellectuals. I can’t think of single one that amounted to hill of beans. Buckeley was a snob, elitist and CFR globalist who had no use for nationalists of any stripe nor for those who wanted to restrain immigration. Could you imagine him setting down with a bunch of factory workers? No. Neither would any of the current crop of “conservative intellectuals”, as they have nothing in common with the white middle-class or their concerns.

    Think about it, these intellectuals never held a real job in their life, have no idea what it’s like to work hard and come home exhausted. In short they have no idea how most Americans even live.

    Worse, they’ve been quite hostile to the white blue collars and middle-class by supporting policies that have devastated them.

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  32. Brooks and Douthat exist so the Times can say, “See? We are too balanced in our viewpoints!” A silly game, really, but many fall for it just the same.

    The best conservative intellectual of the last 30 years was Joseph Sobran, and Conservative Inc. ran him out of town on a rail, because Israel.

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  33. “Brooks and Douthat exist so the Times can say, “See? We are too balanced in our viewpoints!” A silly game, really, but many fall for it just the same.”

    Exactly. Who elected Brooks and Douthat, or the Rod Cuck over at “The American Conservative” as our conservative leaders?

    George Will was hired by the LIBERAL WaPo. Brooks/Douthat were hired by the LIBERAL NYT.

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    The odious George Will (and I mean that from having met him several times) has said that he hopes for Hillary landslide.
  34. @Lawrence Fitton
    that's right derp! conservatives gotta get even more bigoted, racist, and believe believe believe with all their might in religious fairy tales - but only the christian brand.
    problem is, conservatives are afraid of change. that does not bode well in an ever-faster changing world.
    and he's right about douchehat & bricks. conservatives can't find fine salons to discuss compelling issues facing the genteel set. unless conservatives head to a nascar race or a rodeo they're all alone in a world of limp-wristed liberal freaks.
    ah, the good old days when you could hang a nigga or a homo and nobody cared.

    Well, that takes care of my daily dose of incoherence.

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  35. @peterike
    Brooks and Douthat exist so the Times can say, "See? We are too balanced in our viewpoints!" A silly game, really, but many fall for it just the same.

    The best conservative intellectual of the last 30 years was Joseph Sobran, and Conservative Inc. ran him out of town on a rail, because Israel.

    Sobran was an amazing man.

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  36. What I find most amusing about the Brook’s piece is that he fully believes that the younger generation of conservatives will embrace all the “diversity” and equality he cherishes.

    Instead, the most vibrant and vocal group of young conservatives are the alt-right, who champion white identity, oppose feminism, and create “racist” memes that would give someone like Brooks a heart attack. He’ll be very disappointed about the what’s coming next, regardless of whether Trump wins…

    Anyway, here’s a song about Trump for election day

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  37. The rationale here is presumably Contact Theory, which says that prejudice arises from isolation and ignorance, and that when people get to know each other prejudice melts away.

    Let’s not forget the old maxim: Familiarity breeds contempt.

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  38. Dou(b)that and Brooks are are not published by the Times because they foster conservative thoughts and ideals. They are Times people because they represent the paper’s noble attempt to be perceived as fair-minded, giving equal time to balance leftist rhetoric. Douthat and Brooks are conservatives for progressives to read and nod in agreement since their rhetorics are not dissimilar.

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    If you think that's the primary function Brooks and Douthat serve for Times readers, you've obviously never read the comments over there.
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    @Honesthughgrant
    "Brooks and Douthat exist so the Times can say, “See? We are too balanced in our viewpoints!” A silly game, really, but many fall for it just the same."

    Exactly. Who elected Brooks and Douthat, or the Rod Cuck over at "The American Conservative" as our conservative leaders?

    George Will was hired by the LIBERAL WaPo. Brooks/Douthat were hired by the LIBERAL NYT.

    The odious George Will (and I mean that from having met him several times) has said that he hopes for Hillary landslide.

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  40. So it is that today, three generations after Buckley and Burnham, the academy and the mass media are arguably more hostile to conservative ideas than ever, and the courts and the bureaucracy are trending in a similar direction.

    There’s another way of looking at this.

    Starting from the ground up, the US is presently one of the most unequal societies in the world with 120.000 families (the 0.1%) having the same wealth as the lower 90% of the US population, and it’s really difficult for them to maintain this dominance in a functioning democracy (as the present election proves). The wealth is mostly based on 30 years of mass Asian outsourcing (also cheap imported labour) and FED QE and ZIRP driven insider speculation, so these also have to be untouchables.

    Their rather complicated answer to the problem seems to be more debt to buy off the (Democratic) poor with transfer payments, a blind eye to mass (illegal) immigration to grow the immigrant (Democratic) minority, the lavish buying of politicians to protect Neo-Liberalism, and patronage driven control of the FED and un-elected offices of state such as the Treasury with a private MSM media to build a strong protective shell around the 0,1%, based on a wall to wall focus on “social justice” issues.

    The final effect is a very powerful “shadow state” designed to protect the 0,1%, with their only credible threat coming from traditional pre- 1960′s America , which as it happens, is represented in traditional (not Establishment) Conservatism, which is Constitutional, Christian and mostly Anglo-American (in other words the founders of modern America), and it’s no accident that the 0,1% devotes such intense efforts to targeting this group.

    A much more satisfactory solution (from their point of view) would be a straightforward dictatorship which they tried for and failed with on 9/11 but could still get through a National Emergency by provoking Russia or China into war, but that’s no doubt for later, the present headache is Donald Trump who has so completely messed up the planned all-Establishment Bush-Clinton Presidential election.

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  41. @Hubbub
    Dou(b)that and Brooks are are not published by the Times because they foster conservative thoughts and ideals. They are Times people because they represent the paper's noble attempt to be perceived as fair-minded, giving equal time to balance leftist rhetoric. Douthat and Brooks are conservatives for progressives to read and nod in agreement since their rhetorics are not dissimilar.

    If you think that’s the primary function Brooks and Douthat serve for Times readers, you’ve obviously never read the comments over there.

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  42. @Connecticut Famer
    Brooks is a neocon and is thus out of the picture. Douthat? Ehhhh...think you're being a little harsh on ol' Ross, Derb.

    Brooks has interesting things to say on occasion, but he’s a neocon social liberal and operates under most of the assumptions that entails. You’re right that Douthat is something different. Douthat is the kind of religious, paleocon-leaning “reform” conservative who knows who Steve Sailer is and finds him fascinating, if slightly disreputable. I’d put him in that category with Michael Brendan Dougherty, Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry, and Rod Dreher (whom I know everyone loves to hate around here, but he’s not a neocon like Brooks).

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  43. Even God separated the people and is born among the people to not be different and cause interruptions.. Being born as one of the people and experiencing their life is the only way to interact with and understand their lives Someone should remind the conservatives and the Holier than thou who help to place Jesus sworn enemies among his people for money, that not even God would be so cruel.

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  44. @Colleen Pater
    Brooks is also a far left liberal I realize the left goes even farther in these days of giving your 4 year old hormones lingerie for a sex change but by any reasonable scale hes a far lefty
    watching him on pbs the other noght i so desperately wanted to get five minutes in a room with him and beat him into a paste

    Brooks is a zionist dweeb moron who should be on the side of highways picking up litter.
    Hes as intellectual as my cats.
    Just like every pos MSM scum losers for zion.

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  45. “Why We Have Immigration And Cultural Marxism”

    What nonsense–Immigration is transparently a Capitalist inititive, the goal being one thing and one thing only, cheap labor.

    This has been true especially in the United States, but it is also obvious in Germany, France, Briain and so forth.

    What in the US are called “Liberals” are a late version of British Classic Liberals, and are Capitalist and Imperialist, as most US “Conservatives” and “Liberals” simply do not want to admit, for various reasons.

    As a matter of historical context, by the way, authentic “Conservatives” in Britain opposed the “Liberals”. Now the “Conservatives”, hilariously, are also variants of Liberalism.

    There are no significant Marxists in the United States, though Britain has some and France and Germany as well. Calling the Democrats “leftists” is another absurdity.

    One is vastly amused that in Britain, the supposed “Leftists”, including Labor, have embraced immigration on “humanitarian grounds”–thus doing the Capitalists’ work for them.

    In France the situation is also interesting–the older Le Pen’s anti-immigration policies, for example, gained him, as many studies have shown, many anti-immigration votes from Communists and ex-Communists, which in Marxist terms makes perfect sense. Hollande a “Socialist”? About as much a “Socialist” as Obama, Clinton, and the rest of Wall Street’s puppeteers.

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    In France the situation is also interesting–the older Le Pen’s anti-immigration policies, for example, gained him, as many studies have shown, many anti-immigration votes from Communists and ex-Communists
    ----
    Jean-Marie LePen is what some call a "national-liberal". By liberal, in this context, I of course mean "pro markets". In his time, the base of the front national was found among nationalistic and patriotic professionals and small businessmen. It's with Marine that the FN has started to become a major working class party in France, I think.

    National-Liberalism as a political school of thought is very much alive in Switzerland, for example.
    , @Randal

    What nonsense–Immigration is transparently a Capitalist inititive, the goal being one thing and one thing only, cheap labor.
     
    It's very naïve to think that things can be neatly packaged that way into good lefties (the real ones, of course) and evil capitalist righties.

    The reality is that we face an unholy alliance between corporate capitalists (whom you can describe as on the "right" if you want, but really they are just looking after their own interests and have nothing to do with other political positions usually associated with the right, such as traditionalist, nativist, patriotic and conservative positions - in fact they hate them as much or more as the leftists do) and radical leftists who want to "make society better" just as radicals have always done - promoting mass immigration to break down resistance to their radical changes to society (normalising sexually deviant behaviour, breaking down family structures to make the state the only source of authority, pretending race doesn't exist to prevent any race-based resistance, etc).

    Most likely from your comment you share those radical goals whilst disliking the alliance with the globalist corporates that has made it possible to suppress resistance to them. That's understandable, if a bit disingenuous on your part, but don't expect anybody alert to fall for your claims that radicals (ie leftists) aren't pushing mass immigration alongside the corporates, for their own reasons. It's so obvious that's happening that your attempt to claim otherwise amounts to what Americans describe as "pissing up our backs and telling us it's raining".
    , @Reg Cæsar

    What nonsense–Immigration is transparently a Capitalist inititive, the goal being one thing and one thing only, cheap labor.
     
    And since all "Capitalists" believe that evolution should be taught in the schools, evolution education in the schools must also be a "Captitalist initiative" that must be stopped. Yes, Walmart will sell creationist tracts, but that's just an opiate to placate the working classes who shop there.

    So evolution should be removed from the schools. (And on racial subjects, it is!)

    You obligate yourself to explain why all the immigration skepticism in major-party politics in the US today operates in the Republican Party. The Constitution Party is negligible. The Democrats, Greens, Socialists, Workers Worlders, even, inexplicably, the Libertarians (who by principle should only support unsubsidized immigration, which is also negligible) are almost without exception open-borders fanatics.

    Where is the Jeff Sessions, Tom Tancredo, Joe Arpaio, or Kris Kobach of the left?

    Why is it always the right-wing party that has to secure the borders?
    , @Harold
    The left intellectually disarmed us from fighting against the capitalist desire for cheap labour.

    Cheap labour hasn’t won in Japan.

    The west has one culture. It doesn’t matter who is where. Hell, there are even Japanese youths who signal their piety by whining about racism.
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    The United States is not a European nation-state where citizenship is predicated upon ethnicity. The United States was a diverse country from the begining with Blacks, Indians, Chicanos along with Whites. We blacks will never accept having our fates again be determined by whites like Mr. Derbyshire who have come to this country centuries after our ancestors did. We will never accept not having a say on how this nation is run, much less take our cue from someone who abandoned his homeland to sow discord in another country. Derbyshire should be stripped of his naturalization and deported for being a traitor to the idea of E Pluribus Unum. Absolutly shameful, we give him a home and he repays us by arguing that a section of our nation should be deprived of their political rights.

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    Where has the Derb advocated stripping blacks of political rights?
    , @ogunsiron
    Oh come on.
    Though de facto multiracial from the beginning, america, for centuries, saw itself as a nation of whites for whites.
    , @SmoothieX12

    The United States is not a European nation-state where citizenship is predicated upon ethnicity
     
    True, but that is precisely the "genetic" weakness of the American nationhood and culture, whose pitiful state we all observe today. You are also wrong in defining European nations as ones where citizenship "is predicated on ethnicity". Not anymore and not for a long time now. Europe, for the most part is already done as Europe precisely for the reasons of rejection of this fundamental to nationhood principle. I will repeat--no American white European-derived ethnic core, no USA as we know it. Anything else as alternative is irrelevant because that will be something else altogether, not US.
    , @Jane Claire
    So "we blacks" is one of the whites, indians and chicanos? What about those Jamaicans, Somalis and others? Do they leave? What about the Muslims, considering the country in the beginning was mainly Christian and not Catholic either?
    The left had one thing right, there should be a propaganda and resettlement program for whites to go back to Europe.
    Forcing people to live together by corrupting their children through the use of education is cruel. It was done to the Aboriginals as well as the Indians Whites Blacks etc...See if you educate them they'll understand how good it all is for them. Only stupid people don't understand their prosperity comes with their diversity. Why I just feel richer all the time. My Grandparents could raise twelve children, maybe a tiny house, with some land but twelve, where I own nothing and can barely afford one. Now that's prosperity.
    , @RadicalCenter
    First, I don't think you know what "nation" means, as opposed to country or government. You are not part of the historic core European-American NATION.

    Theoretically, you could be a welcome friend and ally, nonetheless, if you respected us and our civilizational achievements, shared our mores and values, and were committed to helping peserve or restore our way of life, but it's clear you're not that either.

    Second, relative to white European citizens, there were very few Indian or "Chicano" people who were u.s. Citizens when this country was founded and long thereafter.

    What few non-whites there were eking out a primitive existence on this continent before we arrived in numbers, busily slaughtered and raided and cheated each other without help from white people, both south and north of the current US-Mexico border. And, while we can usually learn something from almost every race and culture, it is clear that the Indians and "chicanos" on balance weren't on track to advance much beyond a savage state in important respects.

    Third, both the black Africans who sold their fellows into slavery, and the tiny percentage of wealthy whites who bought the slaves, were evil and deserve our condemnation.

    Fourth, a related point, very few whites benefitted from slavery (in fact, if anything, slavery depressed wages and thus standard of living and security for regular white Americans).

    Finally, John Derbyshire declared his affection for and loyalty towards the American nation when he arrived and has never changed his tune. You, by contrast, don't hide your ill-conceived hatred, childish loser resentments, and plain racial vitriol.

    Welcome, Derb, we could use millions more like you.

  47. It is an open question to what extent one can call these establishment (((WASP’s))) –Christian–.

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  48. @Anon
    The United States is not a European nation-state where citizenship is predicated upon ethnicity. The United States was a diverse country from the begining with Blacks, Indians, Chicanos along with Whites. We blacks will never accept having our fates again be determined by whites like Mr. Derbyshire who have come to this country centuries after our ancestors did. We will never accept not having a say on how this nation is run, much less take our cue from someone who abandoned his homeland to sow discord in another country. Derbyshire should be stripped of his naturalization and deported for being a traitor to the idea of E Pluribus Unum. Absolutly shameful, we give him a home and he repays us by arguing that a section of our nation should be deprived of their political rights.

    Where has the Derb advocated stripping blacks of political rights?

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  49. @E. A. Costa
    "Why We Have Immigration And Cultural Marxism"

    What nonsense--Immigration is transparently a Capitalist inititive, the goal being one thing and one thing only, cheap labor.

    This has been true especially in the United States, but it is also obvious in Germany, France, Briain and so forth.

    What in the US are called "Liberals" are a late version of British Classic Liberals, and are Capitalist and Imperialist, as most US "Conservatives" and "Liberals" simply do not want to admit, for various reasons.

    As a matter of historical context, by the way, authentic "Conservatives" in Britain opposed the "Liberals". Now the "Conservatives", hilariously, are also variants of Liberalism.

    There are no significant Marxists in the United States, though Britain has some and France and Germany as well. Calling the Democrats "leftists" is another absurdity.

    One is vastly amused that in Britain, the supposed "Leftists", including Labor, have embraced immigration on "humanitarian grounds"--thus doing the Capitalists' work for them.

    In France the situation is also interesting--the older Le Pen's anti-immigration policies, for example, gained him, as many studies have shown, many anti-immigration votes from Communists and ex-Communists, which in Marxist terms makes perfect sense. Hollande a "Socialist"? About as much a "Socialist" as Obama, Clinton, and the rest of Wall Street's puppeteers.

    In France the situation is also interesting–the older Le Pen’s anti-immigration policies, for example, gained him, as many studies have shown, many anti-immigration votes from Communists and ex-Communists
    —-
    Jean-Marie LePen is what some call a “national-liberal”. By liberal, in this context, I of course mean “pro markets”. In his time, the base of the front national was found among nationalistic and patriotic professionals and small businessmen. It’s with Marine that the FN has started to become a major working class party in France, I think.

    National-Liberalism as a political school of thought is very much alive in Switzerland, for example.

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  50. @E. A. Costa
    "Why We Have Immigration And Cultural Marxism"

    What nonsense--Immigration is transparently a Capitalist inititive, the goal being one thing and one thing only, cheap labor.

    This has been true especially in the United States, but it is also obvious in Germany, France, Briain and so forth.

    What in the US are called "Liberals" are a late version of British Classic Liberals, and are Capitalist and Imperialist, as most US "Conservatives" and "Liberals" simply do not want to admit, for various reasons.

    As a matter of historical context, by the way, authentic "Conservatives" in Britain opposed the "Liberals". Now the "Conservatives", hilariously, are also variants of Liberalism.

    There are no significant Marxists in the United States, though Britain has some and France and Germany as well. Calling the Democrats "leftists" is another absurdity.

    One is vastly amused that in Britain, the supposed "Leftists", including Labor, have embraced immigration on "humanitarian grounds"--thus doing the Capitalists' work for them.

    In France the situation is also interesting--the older Le Pen's anti-immigration policies, for example, gained him, as many studies have shown, many anti-immigration votes from Communists and ex-Communists, which in Marxist terms makes perfect sense. Hollande a "Socialist"? About as much a "Socialist" as Obama, Clinton, and the rest of Wall Street's puppeteers.

    What nonsense–Immigration is transparently a Capitalist inititive, the goal being one thing and one thing only, cheap labor.

    It’s very naïve to think that things can be neatly packaged that way into good lefties (the real ones, of course) and evil capitalist righties.

    The reality is that we face an unholy alliance between corporate capitalists (whom you can describe as on the “right” if you want, but really they are just looking after their own interests and have nothing to do with other political positions usually associated with the right, such as traditionalist, nativist, patriotic and conservative positions – in fact they hate them as much or more as the leftists do) and radical leftists who want to “make society better” just as radicals have always done – promoting mass immigration to break down resistance to their radical changes to society (normalising sexually deviant behaviour, breaking down family structures to make the state the only source of authority, pretending race doesn’t exist to prevent any race-based resistance, etc).

    Most likely from your comment you share those radical goals whilst disliking the alliance with the globalist corporates that has made it possible to suppress resistance to them. That’s understandable, if a bit disingenuous on your part, but don’t expect anybody alert to fall for your claims that radicals (ie leftists) aren’t pushing mass immigration alongside the corporates, for their own reasons. It’s so obvious that’s happening that your attempt to claim otherwise amounts to what Americans describe as “pissing up our backs and telling us it’s raining”.

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    The reality is that we face an unholy alliance between corporate capitalists (whom you can describe as on the “right” if you want
     
    Only Humpty Dumpty can describe capitalists as on the right. Capitalism is a leftist position and always has been. Rightism is throne, altar, and ethny/family---God, King and Country in the English formulation. No room for money-grubbing one-worlders at all.

    Americans describe as “pissing up our backs and telling us it’s raining”.
     
    I don't know who says "up our backs," but it isn't Americans. "On my leg" if you please.
  51. @Anon
    The United States is not a European nation-state where citizenship is predicated upon ethnicity. The United States was a diverse country from the begining with Blacks, Indians, Chicanos along with Whites. We blacks will never accept having our fates again be determined by whites like Mr. Derbyshire who have come to this country centuries after our ancestors did. We will never accept not having a say on how this nation is run, much less take our cue from someone who abandoned his homeland to sow discord in another country. Derbyshire should be stripped of his naturalization and deported for being a traitor to the idea of E Pluribus Unum. Absolutly shameful, we give him a home and he repays us by arguing that a section of our nation should be deprived of their political rights.

    Oh come on.
    Though de facto multiracial from the beginning, america, for centuries, saw itself as a nation of whites for whites.

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  52. @Anon
    The United States is not a European nation-state where citizenship is predicated upon ethnicity. The United States was a diverse country from the begining with Blacks, Indians, Chicanos along with Whites. We blacks will never accept having our fates again be determined by whites like Mr. Derbyshire who have come to this country centuries after our ancestors did. We will never accept not having a say on how this nation is run, much less take our cue from someone who abandoned his homeland to sow discord in another country. Derbyshire should be stripped of his naturalization and deported for being a traitor to the idea of E Pluribus Unum. Absolutly shameful, we give him a home and he repays us by arguing that a section of our nation should be deprived of their political rights.

    The United States is not a European nation-state where citizenship is predicated upon ethnicity

    True, but that is precisely the “genetic” weakness of the American nationhood and culture, whose pitiful state we all observe today. You are also wrong in defining European nations as ones where citizenship “is predicated on ethnicity”. Not anymore and not for a long time now. Europe, for the most part is already done as Europe precisely for the reasons of rejection of this fundamental to nationhood principle. I will repeat–no American white European-derived ethnic core, no USA as we know it. Anything else as alternative is irrelevant because that will be something else altogether, not US.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    You're right, smoothie.

    But isn't Russia also riddled with a large, growing Muslim population that is not genetically/ethnically Russian? Not just in the Caucasus but in "Russia proper" as well, including Moscow?

    Let's hope they don't allow the non-European and Islamic populations to continue growing as we fools in the USA and Canada and Europe have done....

    Good luck, Russia. You're one of our last hopes.
  53. @Anon
    The United States is not a European nation-state where citizenship is predicated upon ethnicity. The United States was a diverse country from the begining with Blacks, Indians, Chicanos along with Whites. We blacks will never accept having our fates again be determined by whites like Mr. Derbyshire who have come to this country centuries after our ancestors did. We will never accept not having a say on how this nation is run, much less take our cue from someone who abandoned his homeland to sow discord in another country. Derbyshire should be stripped of his naturalization and deported for being a traitor to the idea of E Pluribus Unum. Absolutly shameful, we give him a home and he repays us by arguing that a section of our nation should be deprived of their political rights.

    So “we blacks” is one of the whites, indians and chicanos? What about those Jamaicans, Somalis and others? Do they leave? What about the Muslims, considering the country in the beginning was mainly Christian and not Catholic either?
    The left had one thing right, there should be a propaganda and resettlement program for whites to go back to Europe.
    Forcing people to live together by corrupting their children through the use of education is cruel. It was done to the Aboriginals as well as the Indians Whites Blacks etc…See if you educate them they’ll understand how good it all is for them. Only stupid people don’t understand their prosperity comes with their diversity. Why I just feel richer all the time. My Grandparents could raise twelve children, maybe a tiny house, with some land but twelve, where I own nothing and can barely afford one. Now that’s prosperity.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Interesting that you use "Christian" to exclude Catholics. And kinda bigoted and ignorant, too.
  54. @E. A. Costa
    "Why We Have Immigration And Cultural Marxism"

    What nonsense--Immigration is transparently a Capitalist inititive, the goal being one thing and one thing only, cheap labor.

    This has been true especially in the United States, but it is also obvious in Germany, France, Briain and so forth.

    What in the US are called "Liberals" are a late version of British Classic Liberals, and are Capitalist and Imperialist, as most US "Conservatives" and "Liberals" simply do not want to admit, for various reasons.

    As a matter of historical context, by the way, authentic "Conservatives" in Britain opposed the "Liberals". Now the "Conservatives", hilariously, are also variants of Liberalism.

    There are no significant Marxists in the United States, though Britain has some and France and Germany as well. Calling the Democrats "leftists" is another absurdity.

    One is vastly amused that in Britain, the supposed "Leftists", including Labor, have embraced immigration on "humanitarian grounds"--thus doing the Capitalists' work for them.

    In France the situation is also interesting--the older Le Pen's anti-immigration policies, for example, gained him, as many studies have shown, many anti-immigration votes from Communists and ex-Communists, which in Marxist terms makes perfect sense. Hollande a "Socialist"? About as much a "Socialist" as Obama, Clinton, and the rest of Wall Street's puppeteers.

    What nonsense–Immigration is transparently a Capitalist inititive, the goal being one thing and one thing only, cheap labor.

    And since all “Capitalists” believe that evolution should be taught in the schools, evolution education in the schools must also be a “Captitalist initiative” that must be stopped. Yes, Walmart will sell creationist tracts, but that’s just an opiate to placate the working classes who shop there.

    So evolution should be removed from the schools. (And on racial subjects, it is!)

    You obligate yourself to explain why all the immigration skepticism in major-party politics in the US today operates in the Republican Party. The Constitution Party is negligible. The Democrats, Greens, Socialists, Workers Worlders, even, inexplicably, the Libertarians (who by principle should only support unsubsidized immigration, which is also negligible) are almost without exception open-borders fanatics.

    Where is the Jeff Sessions, Tom Tancredo, Joe Arpaio, or Kris Kobach of the left?

    Why is it always the right-wing party that has to secure the borders?

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  55. @Joe Franklin
    The so-called Cultural Marxist function or behave as a enormous professional victim cult.

    Professional victim cultists are recognized by the US and Israeli governments as protected class groups.

    Protected class group people are recognized by mafia media mavens as being generally worthy of illicit government entitlements because of their special status of being disadvantaged, underprivileged, oppressed or underrepresented.

    Protected class group people are collectively a loosely organized, super-majority of voters in the US and Israel.

    Below is a listing of the protected class groups recognized by the US and Israeli governments:

    African American, Alternate Lifestyle, Asian, Disabled, Hispanic & Latino, Jewish, Native American, Women

    http://www.mindexchange.com/diversity.htm


    President Obama has been lobbying to have middle eastern, north African (MENA) people recognized by the federal government as yet another government protected class group.

    Immigration policy is not spared as a means to rectify the persecution hysteria of protected class group people.

    Both the US and Israel have biased immigration polices in favor of protected class group people.

    African American, Alternate Lifestyle, Asian, Disabled, Hispanic & Latino, Jewish, Native American, Women and maybe MENA people. All of whom are oppressed by white men. Obviously white men cannot lobby for inclusion. Who would serve as oppressor? What can white men do to escape being isolated and blamed for all the problems of the world? I think secession will be the answer led by white men since white men alone are in a position to see who the real oppressors are.

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  56. John Jeremiah Smith [AKA "MCPO USN"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Sorry, Darby, but this is just a variation on pearl-clutching gasps of “We must remain civilized while we cope with the assimilation of all foreign ethnicities.”

    Well, no we don’t. That is cultural suicide. Expel the invaders. Kill them on the beaches. Hang them at the crossroads. No quarter.

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    It would seem that the great bulk of our problems, and growing threats to our way of life, culture, safety, and prosperity, come from Africans and Muslims in America, respectively: murder, rape, armed robbery, assault and intimidation, filth, unparented savage "children", the absence of societal trust, the absence of simple peace and quiet, and enormous numbers of hostile borderline-retarded people unfit for peaceful modern or civilized life, education, and productivity.

    Simply removing / excluding Africans and Muslims would vastly improve this country, and enable us to focus on assimilating the other groups and improving life for all of us.
  57. Just noticed on Radio Derb that Derb has picked up the awful mispronunciation of “protestor” rampant in America today. I believe the BBC still gets it mostly right.

    Also, he pronounces “Eritrea” on the penultimate syllable. Unfortunately, Wikipedia does the same. (Or does it? Some systems and sites put the accent before the stressed syllable, others after. Confusing.)

    But “Eritrea” comes from the Greek for “red”, and Greek prefers the antepenultimate.

    And guess what– so do all the Eritreans I know!

    Or is the alternative just a way to make it sound more exotic, as with Kabul and Qatar, which should both be stressed on the first?

    But that sounds too white. Conversely, many mistakenly stress Helsinki on the middle, as if it were Spanish or Tagalog. This must grate on the (very white) helsinkiläisiä.

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    Just noticed on Radio Derb that Derb has picked up the awful mispronunciation of “protestor” rampant in America today. I believe the BBC still gets it mostly right.
     
    Yeah, I am, myself, up in arms about the media's mispronunciation of "douchebag".
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Do you always pronounce the former Californian governor and Terminator star's name following the original German? If so, you must be really annoying to spend time with.
  58. John Jeremiah Smith [AKA "MCPO USN"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Reg Cæsar
    Just noticed on Radio Derb that Derb has picked up the awful mispronunciation of "protestor" rampant in America today. I believe the BBC still gets it mostly right.

    Also, he pronounces "Eritrea" on the penultimate syllable. Unfortunately, Wikipedia does the same. (Or does it? Some systems and sites put the accent before the stressed syllable, others after. Confusing.)

    But "Eritrea" comes from the Greek for "red", and Greek prefers the antepenultimate.

    And guess what-- so do all the Eritreans I know!

    Or is the alternative just a way to make it sound more exotic, as with Kabul and Qatar, which should both be stressed on the first?

    But that sounds too white. Conversely, many mistakenly stress Helsinki on the middle, as if it were Spanish or Tagalog. This must grate on the (very white) helsinkiläisiä.

    Just noticed on Radio Derb that Derb has picked up the awful mispronunciation of “protestor” rampant in America today. I believe the BBC still gets it mostly right.

    Yeah, I am, myself, up in arms about the media’s mispronunciation of “douchebag”.

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  59. @Randal

    What nonsense–Immigration is transparently a Capitalist inititive, the goal being one thing and one thing only, cheap labor.
     
    It's very naïve to think that things can be neatly packaged that way into good lefties (the real ones, of course) and evil capitalist righties.

    The reality is that we face an unholy alliance between corporate capitalists (whom you can describe as on the "right" if you want, but really they are just looking after their own interests and have nothing to do with other political positions usually associated with the right, such as traditionalist, nativist, patriotic and conservative positions - in fact they hate them as much or more as the leftists do) and radical leftists who want to "make society better" just as radicals have always done - promoting mass immigration to break down resistance to their radical changes to society (normalising sexually deviant behaviour, breaking down family structures to make the state the only source of authority, pretending race doesn't exist to prevent any race-based resistance, etc).

    Most likely from your comment you share those radical goals whilst disliking the alliance with the globalist corporates that has made it possible to suppress resistance to them. That's understandable, if a bit disingenuous on your part, but don't expect anybody alert to fall for your claims that radicals (ie leftists) aren't pushing mass immigration alongside the corporates, for their own reasons. It's so obvious that's happening that your attempt to claim otherwise amounts to what Americans describe as "pissing up our backs and telling us it's raining".

    The reality is that we face an unholy alliance between corporate capitalists (whom you can describe as on the “right” if you want

    Only Humpty Dumpty can describe capitalists as on the right. Capitalism is a leftist position and always has been. Rightism is throne, altar, and ethny/family—God, King and Country in the English formulation. No room for money-grubbing one-worlders at all.

    Americans describe as “pissing up our backs and telling us it’s raining”.

    I don’t know who says “up our backs,” but it isn’t Americans. “On my leg” if you please.

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  60. The only smart people who sign up to Conservatism Inc are con men. The genesis of this is not in any of the places Douthat or Brooks look.

    Conservatism Inc’s issues are a grab bag of efforts to serve their various monied constituencies and to keep enough voters on board to contest elections. The embarrassing stupidity of conservative intellectuals’ attempts to weave some kind of coherent ideology to stitch up these issues doesn’t come from limitations of conservative intellectuals or limitations of the conservative audience. It comes from the fact that the grab bag is just a grab bag—that it does not come from any plausible set of principles. There is no coherent stitch up.

    Thank You for Smoking is not ostensibly about Conservatism Inc. However, it is entirely about Conservatism Inc.

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  61. @Anon
    The United States is not a European nation-state where citizenship is predicated upon ethnicity. The United States was a diverse country from the begining with Blacks, Indians, Chicanos along with Whites. We blacks will never accept having our fates again be determined by whites like Mr. Derbyshire who have come to this country centuries after our ancestors did. We will never accept not having a say on how this nation is run, much less take our cue from someone who abandoned his homeland to sow discord in another country. Derbyshire should be stripped of his naturalization and deported for being a traitor to the idea of E Pluribus Unum. Absolutly shameful, we give him a home and he repays us by arguing that a section of our nation should be deprived of their political rights.

    First, I don’t think you know what “nation” means, as opposed to country or government. You are not part of the historic core European-American NATION.

    Theoretically, you could be a welcome friend and ally, nonetheless, if you respected us and our civilizational achievements, shared our mores and values, and were committed to helping peserve or restore our way of life, but it’s clear you’re not that either.

    Second, relative to white European citizens, there were very few Indian or “Chicano” people who were u.s. Citizens when this country was founded and long thereafter.

    What few non-whites there were eking out a primitive existence on this continent before we arrived in numbers, busily slaughtered and raided and cheated each other without help from white people, both south and north of the current US-Mexico border. And, while we can usually learn something from almost every race and culture, it is clear that the Indians and “chicanos” on balance weren’t on track to advance much beyond a savage state in important respects.

    Third, both the black Africans who sold their fellows into slavery, and the tiny percentage of wealthy whites who bought the slaves, were evil and deserve our condemnation.

    Fourth, a related point, very few whites benefitted from slavery (in fact, if anything, slavery depressed wages and thus standard of living and security for regular white Americans).

    Finally, John Derbyshire declared his affection for and loyalty towards the American nation when he arrived and has never changed his tune. You, by contrast, don’t hide your ill-conceived hatred, childish loser resentments, and plain racial vitriol.

    Welcome, Derb, we could use millions more like you.

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    I have absolutely no contempt for the founding documents of this country, they are the ideal I believe we should strive for. But this is not a white country and never will be. If you expect Blacks in this country to accept what Derbyshire calls "The unquestioned assumption that public affairs, both national and international, were a game played among white Europeans"; you are delusional.

    What he is basically saying is that Whites, as a group, should have priority in deciding the path this nation takes at home and abroad. This means relegating everyone else to 2nd class citizen status, looking in on the arena from outside. And why?

    Why should an African American whose roots in this country go back centuries accept 2nd class citizenship and have his voice count less than a recent immigrant from the Midlands of England? The Alt-Right has no answers to this, or do have the answers but deem them not yet palatable for the American public.
  62. @SmoothieX12

    The United States is not a European nation-state where citizenship is predicated upon ethnicity
     
    True, but that is precisely the "genetic" weakness of the American nationhood and culture, whose pitiful state we all observe today. You are also wrong in defining European nations as ones where citizenship "is predicated on ethnicity". Not anymore and not for a long time now. Europe, for the most part is already done as Europe precisely for the reasons of rejection of this fundamental to nationhood principle. I will repeat--no American white European-derived ethnic core, no USA as we know it. Anything else as alternative is irrelevant because that will be something else altogether, not US.

    You’re right, smoothie.

    But isn’t Russia also riddled with a large, growing Muslim population that is not genetically/ethnically Russian? Not just in the Caucasus but in “Russia proper” as well, including Moscow?

    Let’s hope they don’t allow the non-European and Islamic populations to continue growing as we fools in the USA and Canada and Europe have done….

    Good luck, Russia. You’re one of our last hopes.

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    But isn’t Russia also riddled with a large, growing Muslim population that is not genetically/ethnically Russian?
     
    True, Tatars and Bashkirs. But both, despite some facts of radicalization in their midst, have been subjected to centuries of Russian influence and inherited a lot of Russian cultural practices. Majority of them are quite content with living in Russia and the potential danger there is not so much religious as it is ethnic. At least for now, but generally--overwhelming majority of Tatars and Bashkirs are well integrated, in fact assimilated, into Russian society. Kazan, actually, is a very beautiful city which combines in itself both strong Russia/European and Christian Orthodox as well as Tatar Muslim influences. Both republics, Bashkortostan and, especially, Tatarstan are very economically developed. They are also very cosmopolitan. Tatars (and Bashkirs) are smart enough people not to exchange these opportunities for some dubious religious objectives. This, plus FSB and Police do profile, if you know what I mean;-)) Caucasus? Yes, it is a different game.
  63. @Jane Claire
    So "we blacks" is one of the whites, indians and chicanos? What about those Jamaicans, Somalis and others? Do they leave? What about the Muslims, considering the country in the beginning was mainly Christian and not Catholic either?
    The left had one thing right, there should be a propaganda and resettlement program for whites to go back to Europe.
    Forcing people to live together by corrupting their children through the use of education is cruel. It was done to the Aboriginals as well as the Indians Whites Blacks etc...See if you educate them they'll understand how good it all is for them. Only stupid people don't understand their prosperity comes with their diversity. Why I just feel richer all the time. My Grandparents could raise twelve children, maybe a tiny house, with some land but twelve, where I own nothing and can barely afford one. Now that's prosperity.

    Interesting that you use “Christian” to exclude Catholics. And kinda bigoted and ignorant, too.

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    Because Catholics have their own Vicar of Christ, and us bigoted ignoramous' deoesn't have no such high-falutin Vicar to wash any feet of them swell Muslim imgrants, well then a'gin there is Nancy Pelosi, but then a'gin she jes washes feet with the Vicar in Europe. An enywon who dunt beleives it is jes stoopit.
  64. @John Jeremiah Smith
    Sorry, Darby, but this is just a variation on pearl-clutching gasps of "We must remain civilized while we cope with the assimilation of all foreign ethnicities."

    Well, no we don't. That is cultural suicide. Expel the invaders. Kill them on the beaches. Hang them at the crossroads. No quarter.

    It would seem that the great bulk of our problems, and growing threats to our way of life, culture, safety, and prosperity, come from Africans and Muslims in America, respectively: murder, rape, armed robbery, assault and intimidation, filth, unparented savage “children”, the absence of societal trust, the absence of simple peace and quiet, and enormous numbers of hostile borderline-retarded people unfit for peaceful modern or civilized life, education, and productivity.

    Simply removing / excluding Africans and Muslims would vastly improve this country, and enable us to focus on assimilating the other groups and improving life for all of us.

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  65. @RadicalCenter
    Interesting that you use "Christian" to exclude Catholics. And kinda bigoted and ignorant, too.

    Because Catholics have their own Vicar of Christ, and us bigoted ignoramous’ deoesn’t have no such high-falutin Vicar to wash any feet of them swell Muslim imgrants, well then a’gin there is Nancy Pelosi, but then a’gin she jes washes feet with the Vicar in Europe. An enywon who dunt beleives it is jes stoopit.

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  66. @RadicalCenter
    You're right, smoothie.

    But isn't Russia also riddled with a large, growing Muslim population that is not genetically/ethnically Russian? Not just in the Caucasus but in "Russia proper" as well, including Moscow?

    Let's hope they don't allow the non-European and Islamic populations to continue growing as we fools in the USA and Canada and Europe have done....

    Good luck, Russia. You're one of our last hopes.

    But isn’t Russia also riddled with a large, growing Muslim population that is not genetically/ethnically Russian?

    True, Tatars and Bashkirs. But both, despite some facts of radicalization in their midst, have been subjected to centuries of Russian influence and inherited a lot of Russian cultural practices. Majority of them are quite content with living in Russia and the potential danger there is not so much religious as it is ethnic. At least for now, but generally–overwhelming majority of Tatars and Bashkirs are well integrated, in fact assimilated, into Russian society. Kazan, actually, is a very beautiful city which combines in itself both strong Russia/European and Christian Orthodox as well as Tatar Muslim influences. Both republics, Bashkortostan and, especially, Tatarstan are very economically developed. They are also very cosmopolitan. Tatars (and Bashkirs) are smart enough people not to exchange these opportunities for some dubious religious objectives. This, plus FSB and Police do profile, if you know what I mean;-)) Caucasus? Yes, it is a different game.

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    But aren't there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from Central Asia in Russia now?
  67. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @RadicalCenter
    First, I don't think you know what "nation" means, as opposed to country or government. You are not part of the historic core European-American NATION.

    Theoretically, you could be a welcome friend and ally, nonetheless, if you respected us and our civilizational achievements, shared our mores and values, and were committed to helping peserve or restore our way of life, but it's clear you're not that either.

    Second, relative to white European citizens, there were very few Indian or "Chicano" people who were u.s. Citizens when this country was founded and long thereafter.

    What few non-whites there were eking out a primitive existence on this continent before we arrived in numbers, busily slaughtered and raided and cheated each other without help from white people, both south and north of the current US-Mexico border. And, while we can usually learn something from almost every race and culture, it is clear that the Indians and "chicanos" on balance weren't on track to advance much beyond a savage state in important respects.

    Third, both the black Africans who sold their fellows into slavery, and the tiny percentage of wealthy whites who bought the slaves, were evil and deserve our condemnation.

    Fourth, a related point, very few whites benefitted from slavery (in fact, if anything, slavery depressed wages and thus standard of living and security for regular white Americans).

    Finally, John Derbyshire declared his affection for and loyalty towards the American nation when he arrived and has never changed his tune. You, by contrast, don't hide your ill-conceived hatred, childish loser resentments, and plain racial vitriol.

    Welcome, Derb, we could use millions more like you.

    I have absolutely no contempt for the founding documents of this country, they are the ideal I believe we should strive for. But this is not a white country and never will be. If you expect Blacks in this country to accept what Derbyshire calls “The unquestioned assumption that public affairs, both national and international, were a game played among white Europeans”; you are delusional.

    What he is basically saying is that Whites, as a group, should have priority in deciding the path this nation takes at home and abroad. This means relegating everyone else to 2nd class citizen status, looking in on the arena from outside. And why?

    Why should an African American whose roots in this country go back centuries accept 2nd class citizenship and have his voice count less than a recent immigrant from the Midlands of England? The Alt-Right has no answers to this, or do have the answers but deem them not yet palatable for the American public.

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    • Replies: @random observer
    What about:

    1. White Americans
    2. African Americans, whose ancestors arrived in chains and undoubtedly are as entitled to be called authentic Americans as anyone
    3. Indians, who were here first, lacked the technological and organizational wherewithal [and continental sense of self that would have gone with them] to prevent conquest and colonization, and the building of new nations on their land, but who are undoubtedly entitled to representation in those nations
    4. Anyone whose ancestor arrived at any time since via legal immigration

    and in all cases is committed to the endurance of their country as a sovereign state on the basis of liberal democracy, national identity and citizenship.

    ?

    I see that many in the Trump camp have moved very fast and far beyond that point and may be unrecoverable.

    Still, it is an irony that the program and identity I outline above would have captured almost all their sympathies as recently as 2014 and was not on offer by the Democrats or most Republicans in power. If it had been, the ideological landscape would not have been what it was.

    [I didn't omit Hispanics above wholly without cause. Almost all who are not illegal fit category 4. A modest number were already in the SW and stayed. They get to claim original status as well. As they were themselves the heirs of colonizers, that seems entirely fair.]
    , @neutral

    Why should an African American whose roots in this country go back centuries accept 2nd class citizenship and have his voice count less than a recent immigrant from the Midlands of England? The Alt-Right has no answers to this, or do have the answers but deem them not yet palatable for the American public
     
    This may not be palatable to the good thinkers, but you know what the true answer is if you were truly sincere in accepting the evidence. There is absolutely nothing that shows that Africans can run successful societies, cities, etc, even in the USA where there has been the biggest wealth transfer in all of history. You can scream "thats unfair" all you want, but the evidence cannot be denied. You will probably not see it in your life time, but if you think that having the demographics of Brazil (or worse) will somehow keep things as they used to be, then you are delusional.

    Also, do you find this conservatism inc in any way appealing ?

    , @Bill
    It's irrelevant what they "accept." They suck at organized violence just as they suck at organized anything. The only thing that's relevant is what whites accept.
  68. @Anon
    I have absolutely no contempt for the founding documents of this country, they are the ideal I believe we should strive for. But this is not a white country and never will be. If you expect Blacks in this country to accept what Derbyshire calls "The unquestioned assumption that public affairs, both national and international, were a game played among white Europeans"; you are delusional.

    What he is basically saying is that Whites, as a group, should have priority in deciding the path this nation takes at home and abroad. This means relegating everyone else to 2nd class citizen status, looking in on the arena from outside. And why?

    Why should an African American whose roots in this country go back centuries accept 2nd class citizenship and have his voice count less than a recent immigrant from the Midlands of England? The Alt-Right has no answers to this, or do have the answers but deem them not yet palatable for the American public.

    What about:

    1. White Americans
    2. African Americans, whose ancestors arrived in chains and undoubtedly are as entitled to be called authentic Americans as anyone
    3. Indians, who were here first, lacked the technological and organizational wherewithal [and continental sense of self that would have gone with them] to prevent conquest and colonization, and the building of new nations on their land, but who are undoubtedly entitled to representation in those nations
    4. Anyone whose ancestor arrived at any time since via legal immigration

    and in all cases is committed to the endurance of their country as a sovereign state on the basis of liberal democracy, national identity and citizenship.

    ?

    I see that many in the Trump camp have moved very fast and far beyond that point and may be unrecoverable.

    Still, it is an irony that the program and identity I outline above would have captured almost all their sympathies as recently as 2014 and was not on offer by the Democrats or most Republicans in power. If it had been, the ideological landscape would not have been what it was.

    [I didn't omit Hispanics above wholly without cause. Almost all who are not illegal fit category 4. A modest number were already in the SW and stayed. They get to claim original status as well. As they were themselves the heirs of colonizers, that seems entirely fair.]

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  69. @SmoothieX12

    But isn’t Russia also riddled with a large, growing Muslim population that is not genetically/ethnically Russian?
     
    True, Tatars and Bashkirs. But both, despite some facts of radicalization in their midst, have been subjected to centuries of Russian influence and inherited a lot of Russian cultural practices. Majority of them are quite content with living in Russia and the potential danger there is not so much religious as it is ethnic. At least for now, but generally--overwhelming majority of Tatars and Bashkirs are well integrated, in fact assimilated, into Russian society. Kazan, actually, is a very beautiful city which combines in itself both strong Russia/European and Christian Orthodox as well as Tatar Muslim influences. Both republics, Bashkortostan and, especially, Tatarstan are very economically developed. They are also very cosmopolitan. Tatars (and Bashkirs) are smart enough people not to exchange these opportunities for some dubious religious objectives. This, plus FSB and Police do profile, if you know what I mean;-)) Caucasus? Yes, it is a different game.

    But aren’t there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from Central Asia in Russia now?

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    But aren’t there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from Central Asia in Russia now?
     
    Aren’t there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from everywhere in Germany now ? The reason they are there is because of the centuries old history of the expansion of the Russian empire, there is however no sane reason that Germany is being swarmed by them though.
    , @SmoothieX12

    But aren’t there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from Central Asia in Russia now?
     
    Most of them are gastarbeiters. Others--plain simple illegals, like in US. Russia is world's second largest immigrant destination (after US), with the border which makes US-Mexican border look tiny. But those are not only Middle Asian immigrants and seasonal workers, a huge number from Vietnam, China etc. is also trying to find their fortunes there. Then, of course, come Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan. So much for Russia's being "underdeveloped". In reality, places such as Krasnodar, Rostov, Yekaterinburg, Voronezh, Sochi, not to speak of Moscow and St. Petersburg which can make many European capitals look tame, are very desirable places to live for very many. So, those are not just Muslims. I also want to reiterate--Russian security services don't care about PC and do profile, work with Diasporas and if need be--shoot to kill.
  70. @German_reader
    But aren't there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from Central Asia in Russia now?

    But aren’t there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from Central Asia in Russia now?

    Aren’t there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from everywhere in Germany now ? The reason they are there is because of the centuries old history of the expansion of the Russian empire, there is however no sane reason that Germany is being swarmed by them though.

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    I agree, the situation in Germany is utter madness.
  71. @German_reader
    But aren't there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from Central Asia in Russia now?

    But aren’t there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from Central Asia in Russia now?

    Most of them are gastarbeiters. Others–plain simple illegals, like in US. Russia is world’s second largest immigrant destination (after US), with the border which makes US-Mexican border look tiny. But those are not only Middle Asian immigrants and seasonal workers, a huge number from Vietnam, China etc. is also trying to find their fortunes there. Then, of course, come Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan. So much for Russia’s being “underdeveloped”. In reality, places such as Krasnodar, Rostov, Yekaterinburg, Voronezh, Sochi, not to speak of Moscow and St. Petersburg which can make many European capitals look tame, are very desirable places to live for very many. So, those are not just Muslims. I also want to reiterate–Russian security services don’t care about PC and do profile, work with Diasporas and if need be–shoot to kill.

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    Ok, thanks for your answer. But don't you think that immigration could turn out to be a problem long-term? Turks in Germany came as guest workers too, no one in the early 1960s could have imagined there eventually would be a permanent population of more than 3 million of them in Germany. I hope Russia avoids that mistake.
  72. @SmoothieX12
    Learning the nature of the Cold War and Soviet history is beyond the grasp of Anglo-Saxon "academe", for a number of reasons. As Madison noted in federalist Papers: "bad cause seldom fails to manifest itself". When views of the outside world are formed by narratives not by observations, Doughats, Buckleys and likes will continue to happen thus continuously re-generating Chalabi moments, or, rather, never-ending Chalabi state. So called "Cultural Marxism", in reality, has very little to do with Marxism but rather is an organic natural degeneration of Western "elites" and has more to do with WW II, and 1960s counter-culture than actual Marxism. Yeah, yeah, I know what Frankfurt School is and all that but I think Christopher Caldwell is more on point on this matter than any intellectual constructs attributing those failures to some "Cultural Marxism". But then again, WW II history (a real one) is not a strong forte' of Anglo-American intellectual class, bar some very significant by few exceptions.

    So called “Cultural Marxism”, in reality, has very little to do with Marxism but rather is an organic natural degeneration of Western “elites” and has more to do with WW II, and 1960s counter-culture than actual Marxism.

    I’m more and more coming to the same conclusion. Although I think the decadence of western elites began much earlier than WW2, possibly even as early as the closing years of the 19th century.

    But why did western elites become decadent and degenerate?

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  73. @Anon
    I have absolutely no contempt for the founding documents of this country, they are the ideal I believe we should strive for. But this is not a white country and never will be. If you expect Blacks in this country to accept what Derbyshire calls "The unquestioned assumption that public affairs, both national and international, were a game played among white Europeans"; you are delusional.

    What he is basically saying is that Whites, as a group, should have priority in deciding the path this nation takes at home and abroad. This means relegating everyone else to 2nd class citizen status, looking in on the arena from outside. And why?

    Why should an African American whose roots in this country go back centuries accept 2nd class citizenship and have his voice count less than a recent immigrant from the Midlands of England? The Alt-Right has no answers to this, or do have the answers but deem them not yet palatable for the American public.

    Why should an African American whose roots in this country go back centuries accept 2nd class citizenship and have his voice count less than a recent immigrant from the Midlands of England? The Alt-Right has no answers to this, or do have the answers but deem them not yet palatable for the American public

    This may not be palatable to the good thinkers, but you know what the true answer is if you were truly sincere in accepting the evidence. There is absolutely nothing that shows that Africans can run successful societies, cities, etc, even in the USA where there has been the biggest wealth transfer in all of history. You can scream “thats unfair” all you want, but the evidence cannot be denied. You will probably not see it in your life time, but if you think that having the demographics of Brazil (or worse) will somehow keep things as they used to be, then you are delusional.

    Also, do you find this conservatism inc in any way appealing ?

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Thank You for an honest answer. Your argument seems to center on the claim that since "Africans" cannot run a modern society, they should know their place and leave decision making to their white superiors. What many on the Alt-Right don't seem to remember is that system existed in the South of the US for a century from 1865 to 1965. Blacks in this country remember that system, and certainly do not want to go back to 2nd class citizen status. This idea even runs against the Alt-Right's nativist beliefs about citizenship and immigration.

    How do you propose to make this kind of America come about? Are you willing to have congress strip Blacks of citizenship? Will Blacks be able to vote? Take all black people back to Africa? This is the logical conclusion once you accept the claim you have made above. There is a slippery slope from "Blacks can't vote" to good old fashioned genocide. There is only one way this ends.

    I am a leftist, but I like to see what the other side has to say.
  74. English man John Derbyshire is married to a Chinawoman, who he gleefully brought to the USA (!!)

    He now rails against immigration.

    We understand Derbyshire is superficially ugly (that’s why the Chinawoman was the only option) but there is nothing truly as ugly as the hypocritical ugliness inside.

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  75. @E. A. Costa
    "Why We Have Immigration And Cultural Marxism"

    What nonsense--Immigration is transparently a Capitalist inititive, the goal being one thing and one thing only, cheap labor.

    This has been true especially in the United States, but it is also obvious in Germany, France, Briain and so forth.

    What in the US are called "Liberals" are a late version of British Classic Liberals, and are Capitalist and Imperialist, as most US "Conservatives" and "Liberals" simply do not want to admit, for various reasons.

    As a matter of historical context, by the way, authentic "Conservatives" in Britain opposed the "Liberals". Now the "Conservatives", hilariously, are also variants of Liberalism.

    There are no significant Marxists in the United States, though Britain has some and France and Germany as well. Calling the Democrats "leftists" is another absurdity.

    One is vastly amused that in Britain, the supposed "Leftists", including Labor, have embraced immigration on "humanitarian grounds"--thus doing the Capitalists' work for them.

    In France the situation is also interesting--the older Le Pen's anti-immigration policies, for example, gained him, as many studies have shown, many anti-immigration votes from Communists and ex-Communists, which in Marxist terms makes perfect sense. Hollande a "Socialist"? About as much a "Socialist" as Obama, Clinton, and the rest of Wall Street's puppeteers.

    The left intellectually disarmed us from fighting against the capitalist desire for cheap labour.

    Cheap labour hasn’t won in Japan.

    The west has one culture. It doesn’t matter who is where. Hell, there are even Japanese youths who signal their piety by whining about racism.

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    The US has no authentic Left. The duopoly has two parties: (1) the Right Wing (Democrats); (2) the Even More Right Wing (Republicans). Both are Capitalist and Imperialist and owned lock stock and barrel by their corporate and financial puppeteers. Note--"Right" in this sense means exactly: Capitalist, Imperialist, and Corporate. The Military Industrial Complex, however, has progressed into the last stage, Finance Capitalism, and is more properly called the Military Industrial Financial Complex.
  76. @Harold
    The left intellectually disarmed us from fighting against the capitalist desire for cheap labour.

    Cheap labour hasn’t won in Japan.

    The west has one culture. It doesn’t matter who is where. Hell, there are even Japanese youths who signal their piety by whining about racism.

    The US has no authentic Left. The duopoly has two parties: (1) the Right Wing (Democrats); (2) the Even More Right Wing (Republicans). Both are Capitalist and Imperialist and owned lock stock and barrel by their corporate and financial puppeteers. Note–”Right” in this sense means exactly: Capitalist, Imperialist, and Corporate. The Military Industrial Complex, however, has progressed into the last stage, Finance Capitalism, and is more properly called the Military Industrial Financial Complex.

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  77. Enjoyed seeing D. Brooks (on PBS if my memory doesn’t fail me) yesterday. The suffering on his face looked great, or, rather, his attempts to cover it.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    Enjoyed seeing D. Brooks (on PBS if my memory doesn’t fail me) yesterday. The suffering on his face looked great, or, rather, his attempts to cover it.
     
    Brooks appeared to accept it with resignation. After all, to him, it's just another shifting of attack in adjustment to events. His role remains unchanged, as does his revenue stream.

    It was the pure talking heads of media that were so hilarious to watch. The whole 7 steps right in front of us, starting with Denial.
  78. @SmoothieX12

    But aren’t there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from Central Asia in Russia now?
     
    Most of them are gastarbeiters. Others--plain simple illegals, like in US. Russia is world's second largest immigrant destination (after US), with the border which makes US-Mexican border look tiny. But those are not only Middle Asian immigrants and seasonal workers, a huge number from Vietnam, China etc. is also trying to find their fortunes there. Then, of course, come Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan. So much for Russia's being "underdeveloped". In reality, places such as Krasnodar, Rostov, Yekaterinburg, Voronezh, Sochi, not to speak of Moscow and St. Petersburg which can make many European capitals look tame, are very desirable places to live for very many. So, those are not just Muslims. I also want to reiterate--Russian security services don't care about PC and do profile, work with Diasporas and if need be--shoot to kill.

    Ok, thanks for your answer. But don’t you think that immigration could turn out to be a problem long-term? Turks in Germany came as guest workers too, no one in the early 1960s could have imagined there eventually would be a permanent population of more than 3 million of them in Germany. I hope Russia avoids that mistake.

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    Ok, thanks for your answer. But don’t you think that immigration could turn out to be a problem long-term?
     
    Of course it could, no doubt about it and Russia is in dire need of new nationalities policy. I think it is coming. Will see.
  79. @neutral

    But aren’t there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from Central Asia in Russia now?
     
    Aren’t there are a lot of Muslim immigrants from everywhere in Germany now ? The reason they are there is because of the centuries old history of the expansion of the Russian empire, there is however no sane reason that Germany is being swarmed by them though.

    I agree, the situation in Germany is utter madness.

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  80. @German_reader
    Ok, thanks for your answer. But don't you think that immigration could turn out to be a problem long-term? Turks in Germany came as guest workers too, no one in the early 1960s could have imagined there eventually would be a permanent population of more than 3 million of them in Germany. I hope Russia avoids that mistake.

    Ok, thanks for your answer. But don’t you think that immigration could turn out to be a problem long-term?

    Of course it could, no doubt about it and Russia is in dire need of new nationalities policy. I think it is coming. Will see.

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  81. John Jeremiah Smith [AKA "MCPO USN"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @SmoothieX12
    Enjoyed seeing D. Brooks (on PBS if my memory doesn't fail me) yesterday. The suffering on his face looked great, or, rather, his attempts to cover it.

    Enjoyed seeing D. Brooks (on PBS if my memory doesn’t fail me) yesterday. The suffering on his face looked great, or, rather, his attempts to cover it.

    Brooks appeared to accept it with resignation. After all, to him, it’s just another shifting of attack in adjustment to events. His role remains unchanged, as does his revenue stream.

    It was the pure talking heads of media that were so hilarious to watch. The whole 7 steps right in front of us, starting with Denial.

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  82. You write as someone both unfamiliar with the English language, and as a butt licking foreign animal, growling at your betters. Be quiet before you become such an annoyance that you must be put down as a public danger.

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    You write as someone both unfamiliar with the English language, and as a butt licking foreign animal, growling at your betters. Be quiet before you become such an annoyance that you must be put down as a public danger.
     
    LOL. Wow, but the nutjobs must nest in the woodwork around here.

    Whew! Jack, but you are spin-dizzy.
  83. John Jeremiah Smith [AKA "MCPO USN"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Commentarian
    You write as someone both unfamiliar with the English language, and as a butt licking foreign animal, growling at your betters. Be quiet before you become such an annoyance that you must be put down as a public danger.

    You write as someone both unfamiliar with the English language, and as a butt licking foreign animal, growling at your betters. Be quiet before you become such an annoyance that you must be put down as a public danger.

    LOL. Wow, but the nutjobs must nest in the woodwork around here.

    Whew! Jack, but you are spin-dizzy.

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  84. THat guy Bobo is still on TV boring everyone. His main thing seems to be to put a big wet blanket on the discussion, which usually isn’t to hot anyway.

    He just exudes complacency and smugness like he is the adult in the room and is above the fray, he will talk it down to the mature final conclusions about it all end of conversation,

    He’s a kind of hybrid hermorphodite conservative in sheepy liberal drag.

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  85. @Anon
    I have absolutely no contempt for the founding documents of this country, they are the ideal I believe we should strive for. But this is not a white country and never will be. If you expect Blacks in this country to accept what Derbyshire calls "The unquestioned assumption that public affairs, both national and international, were a game played among white Europeans"; you are delusional.

    What he is basically saying is that Whites, as a group, should have priority in deciding the path this nation takes at home and abroad. This means relegating everyone else to 2nd class citizen status, looking in on the arena from outside. And why?

    Why should an African American whose roots in this country go back centuries accept 2nd class citizenship and have his voice count less than a recent immigrant from the Midlands of England? The Alt-Right has no answers to this, or do have the answers but deem them not yet palatable for the American public.

    It’s irrelevant what they “accept.” They suck at organized violence just as they suck at organized anything. The only thing that’s relevant is what whites accept.

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  86. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @neutral

    Why should an African American whose roots in this country go back centuries accept 2nd class citizenship and have his voice count less than a recent immigrant from the Midlands of England? The Alt-Right has no answers to this, or do have the answers but deem them not yet palatable for the American public
     
    This may not be palatable to the good thinkers, but you know what the true answer is if you were truly sincere in accepting the evidence. There is absolutely nothing that shows that Africans can run successful societies, cities, etc, even in the USA where there has been the biggest wealth transfer in all of history. You can scream "thats unfair" all you want, but the evidence cannot be denied. You will probably not see it in your life time, but if you think that having the demographics of Brazil (or worse) will somehow keep things as they used to be, then you are delusional.

    Also, do you find this conservatism inc in any way appealing ?

    Thank You for an honest answer. Your argument seems to center on the claim that since “Africans” cannot run a modern society, they should know their place and leave decision making to their white superiors. What many on the Alt-Right don’t seem to remember is that system existed in the South of the US for a century from 1865 to 1965. Blacks in this country remember that system, and certainly do not want to go back to 2nd class citizen status. This idea even runs against the Alt-Right’s nativist beliefs about citizenship and immigration.

    How do you propose to make this kind of America come about? Are you willing to have congress strip Blacks of citizenship? Will Blacks be able to vote? Take all black people back to Africa? This is the logical conclusion once you accept the claim you have made above. There is a slippery slope from “Blacks can’t vote” to good old fashioned genocide. There is only one way this ends.

    I am a leftist, but I like to see what the other side has to say.

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    • Replies: @Miro23

    "Blacks in this country remember that system, and certainly do not want to go back to 2nd class citizen status."
     
    No, need for that. They can be equal citizens the same as everyone else, which means a guaranteed basic living standard and equal opportunity for a good education.

    If they don't take the opportunity then that's their choice.

    Organizations usually have plenty of different jobs/skill levels giving people with a training a chance to work together, and in my experience they work best when they respect everyone's contribution and don't separate off an "elite" - but government also has to play the game at the macro level by stopping for example profit enhancing automatic outsourcing to Asia and mass low wage immigration.
    , @epochehusserl
    They could certainly get rid of the doctrine of disparate impact and overturn griggs vs duke power for starters.
  87. @Anon
    Thank You for an honest answer. Your argument seems to center on the claim that since "Africans" cannot run a modern society, they should know their place and leave decision making to their white superiors. What many on the Alt-Right don't seem to remember is that system existed in the South of the US for a century from 1865 to 1965. Blacks in this country remember that system, and certainly do not want to go back to 2nd class citizen status. This idea even runs against the Alt-Right's nativist beliefs about citizenship and immigration.

    How do you propose to make this kind of America come about? Are you willing to have congress strip Blacks of citizenship? Will Blacks be able to vote? Take all black people back to Africa? This is the logical conclusion once you accept the claim you have made above. There is a slippery slope from "Blacks can't vote" to good old fashioned genocide. There is only one way this ends.

    I am a leftist, but I like to see what the other side has to say.

    “Blacks in this country remember that system, and certainly do not want to go back to 2nd class citizen status.”

    No, need for that. They can be equal citizens the same as everyone else, which means a guaranteed basic living standard and equal opportunity for a good education.

    If they don’t take the opportunity then that’s their choice.

    Organizations usually have plenty of different jobs/skill levels giving people with a training a chance to work together, and in my experience they work best when they respect everyone’s contribution and don’t separate off an “elite” – but government also has to play the game at the macro level by stopping for example profit enhancing automatic outsourcing to Asia and mass low wage immigration.

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  88. @Anon
    Thank You for an honest answer. Your argument seems to center on the claim that since "Africans" cannot run a modern society, they should know their place and leave decision making to their white superiors. What many on the Alt-Right don't seem to remember is that system existed in the South of the US for a century from 1865 to 1965. Blacks in this country remember that system, and certainly do not want to go back to 2nd class citizen status. This idea even runs against the Alt-Right's nativist beliefs about citizenship and immigration.

    How do you propose to make this kind of America come about? Are you willing to have congress strip Blacks of citizenship? Will Blacks be able to vote? Take all black people back to Africa? This is the logical conclusion once you accept the claim you have made above. There is a slippery slope from "Blacks can't vote" to good old fashioned genocide. There is only one way this ends.

    I am a leftist, but I like to see what the other side has to say.

    They could certainly get rid of the doctrine of disparate impact and overturn griggs vs duke power for starters.

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    • Replies: @Bill
    Then what? The black middle class will largely disappear. The black working class will partially disappear. All those black secretaries and HR specialists who do nothing and get paid will commence to doing nothing and not getting paid. The level of black poverty and debasement will be mind-boggling. Do you figure blacks will just happily accept this new vastly reduced living standard and social status? "We're all poor and miserable, but that's our fault. I guess we're just too stupid to compete with our white overlords . . ."
  89. @epochehusserl
    They could certainly get rid of the doctrine of disparate impact and overturn griggs vs duke power for starters.

    Then what? The black middle class will largely disappear. The black working class will partially disappear. All those black secretaries and HR specialists who do nothing and get paid will commence to doing nothing and not getting paid. The level of black poverty and debasement will be mind-boggling. Do you figure blacks will just happily accept this new vastly reduced living standard and social status? “We’re all poor and miserable, but that’s our fault. I guess we’re just too stupid to compete with our white overlords . . .”

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    • Replies: @epochehusserl
    I am confident that blacks will be able to invent and create profitable enterprises with whitey no longer holding the black man back OR the whole civil rights movement was a sham from the beginning.
  90. @Bill
    Then what? The black middle class will largely disappear. The black working class will partially disappear. All those black secretaries and HR specialists who do nothing and get paid will commence to doing nothing and not getting paid. The level of black poverty and debasement will be mind-boggling. Do you figure blacks will just happily accept this new vastly reduced living standard and social status? "We're all poor and miserable, but that's our fault. I guess we're just too stupid to compete with our white overlords . . ."

    I am confident that blacks will be able to invent and create profitable enterprises with whitey no longer holding the black man back OR the whole civil rights movement was a sham from the beginning.

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  91. Far be it for the likes of me to tell anyone, The Derb no less, what they should have refrained from writing. But, doing the EMAIL THEM thing, well, it is what it is— malicious. It’s always seemed to me a pretty transparent way of encouraging cyber bullies to compose hate mail by directing them to the cyber home address of whose analysis or opinions you find fault with, and a good conservative intellectual should be better than that.

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  92. @Jason Liu
    Conservatism intellectual is almost an oxymoron. There is a revolutionary element needed for ideological movements. What people like George Will do is hold back the dam by derailing and putting up smokescreens about big government, school choice, and so forth when everyone knows that the real discussion is race, gender, nationalism etc.

    Until they want to address the culture war head on, the public will always view conservative intellectualism as an exercise in convoluted excuse-making.

    As Sartre’s lover and acolyte wrote long ago in “The Second Sex,” “One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman.” Her pointe is that humans are born male and female -how could on argue otherwise!- but that culture and society turns them into “men” and “women.” In current feminist parlance, “gender” (masculine/feminine) as opposed to sex (male/female) is an “artificial social construct.”

    Thus to use the word “gender” in lieu of sex is to espouse and advance feminist mythology, consciously or unconsciously, intentionally or unintentionally: the fantasy and dogma that the sexes are exactly the same apart from the inescapable differences in anatomy and the resultant vision of a utopian society in which boys and girls and men and women are equal in virtually all areas and aspects of life and all forms of “sexism” are abolished by inculcation and thought-control or at least suppressed by criminal and non-criminal penalties; in reality a dystopia that could only be imposed and sustained by a totalitarian regime. Yes, feminist ideology is inherently totalitarian.

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  93. @Reg Cæsar
    Just noticed on Radio Derb that Derb has picked up the awful mispronunciation of "protestor" rampant in America today. I believe the BBC still gets it mostly right.

    Also, he pronounces "Eritrea" on the penultimate syllable. Unfortunately, Wikipedia does the same. (Or does it? Some systems and sites put the accent before the stressed syllable, others after. Confusing.)

    But "Eritrea" comes from the Greek for "red", and Greek prefers the antepenultimate.

    And guess what-- so do all the Eritreans I know!

    Or is the alternative just a way to make it sound more exotic, as with Kabul and Qatar, which should both be stressed on the first?

    But that sounds too white. Conversely, many mistakenly stress Helsinki on the middle, as if it were Spanish or Tagalog. This must grate on the (very white) helsinkiläisiä.

    Do you always pronounce the former Californian governor and Terminator star’s name following the original German? If so, you must be really annoying to spend time with.

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  94. Derb,
    I’m really looking forward to Radio Derb this week!

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    By the way, I assume you've got something original and clever arranged for the sign-off music, but if not, Hail to the Chief was never more appropriate. The usually unsung lyrics fit Trump well.

    Hail to the Chief we have chosen for the nation,
    Hail to the Chief! We salute him, one and all.
    Hail to the Chief, as we pledge cooperation
    In proud fulfillment of a great, noble call.

    Yours is the aim to make this grand country grander,
    This you will do, that's our strong, firm belief.
    Hail to the one we selected as commander,
    Hail to the President! Hail to the Chief!

    Dovetailing nicely with the failure of the polls and MSM to predict the election, while NYC was going crazy over the Hamilton musical last Christmas, the Met was quietly putting on La donna del Lago to "deplorable" reviews. La donna is Hail to the Chief's closest operatic cousin, both descending from Sir Walter Scott's work. Did you see it, Derb, and, if so, what did you think?
  95. @Chrisnonymous
    Derb,
    I'm really looking forward to Radio Derb this week!

    By the way, I assume you’ve got something original and clever arranged for the sign-off music, but if not, Hail to the Chief was never more appropriate. The usually unsung lyrics fit Trump well.

    Hail to the Chief we have chosen for the nation,
    Hail to the Chief! We salute him, one and all.
    Hail to the Chief, as we pledge cooperation
    In proud fulfillment of a great, noble call.

    Yours is the aim to make this grand country grander,
    This you will do, that’s our strong, firm belief.
    Hail to the one we selected as commander,
    Hail to the President! Hail to the Chief!

    Dovetailing nicely with the failure of the polls and MSM to predict the election, while NYC was going crazy over the Hamilton musical last Christmas, the Met was quietly putting on La donna del Lago to “deplorable” reviews. La donna is Hail to the Chief’s closest operatic cousin, both descending from Sir Walter Scott’s work. Did you see it, Derb, and, if so, what did you think?

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  96. I think people are missing the obvious. The Democratic party was the party of slavery in 1861 and they’re the party of slavery now. The rich control all the money and import things from abroad while they get us peasants to do the holding down of the slaves. Just like slavery in the South they pay the slaves just enough to live off of. They tax us to make sure their slaves stay in place and periodically they import more to keep wages down

    Slavery was about money. It was re-framed by Whites as a race issue because they were ashamed of how they made the money.

    The Democratic party, the Left, thinks it’s all about racism, blah, blah, blah but it’s really about money. The Democrat party masters want slavery and the Republicans want free non slave labor. We’re told, over and over that the Republicans are stupid but it’s the Democrat masters that want slave labor. The SJW are idiots. They don’t have a clue. The only ones that do are the Jews and they, of course, make all the money while you peasants defend their slave deals so the Jews won’t call you racist or shall I say, call you Nigger like they used to do to poor Whites in the South.

    Back in the day the Democrat slave masters used to tell the poor Whites,”You don’t want to be a Nigger do you?” and they would fall right in line. No master we don’t want to be Niggers.

    Now the Democrat slave masters tell the SJW,”You don’t want to be a racist do you?” and they fall right in line. Anything to not be a racist. The whole time they’re flooding the country with aliens that don’t give a tinkers damn about the US. Good slaves that will pack 15 people in a trailer and work for just above food and clothing.

    They even had the gall to fire the guys who wear cartoon costumes at Disney and replace them with imported 401B alien workers. 401B is supposedly jobs for those with special skills that can’t be found in the US. Thank God they didn’t call the fired employees who wore those costumes racist yet. If they complain they will surely be racist.

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