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My impression is that the U.S.A. is a much more hysterical country than it used to be. You can, in your imagination, conjure up the way particular human types will react to some public event. How would a thoughtful, law-abiding, middle-class family man react? How would a vinegary old maid react? How would a ditzy teenage girl react?

The most-publicized reactions to unpleasant public events in recent years have been over at the vinegary old maid and ditzy co-ed end of the scale—hysterical.

Control-freak ideologues are in evidence, too: people who want us all thinking and behaving one way, their way, who want to stamp out all disagreement with their dogmas.

The ideologues are cheering on the hysterics from behind. Also guiding them: People whose emotions rule their intellects can easily be guided by skillful manipulators of emotion.

Hysterics under the guidance of ideologues: that’s the picture I’ve been getting ever more clearly, from the Charleston church shooting three years ago, via the Antifa riot at Charlottesville last year, down to this week’s continuing reactions to the Parkland shooting.

One aspect of this big recent change in the way we react to social calamities: our major institutions—courts, state houses, corporations, churches, colleges—get swept up in the hysteria in a way they never used to.

I’ve told the story before about how, in the summer of 2015, I and my wife went on a tour of Civil War battlefields, and noted with interest that the battlefields’ Visitor Centers, most of which are run by the federal parks service, all had Confederate flags for sale.

A few weeks later, after the Charleston church shooting, that was suddenly unthinkable. It was unthinkable to fly a Confederate flag anywhere. Suddenly, after a hundred and fifty year s of nobody minding the flag much, suddenly it was an outrage.

After Charlottesville—which was, let it not be forgotten, an Antifa riot assisted, and to some degree arranged, by local politicians and police brass—after Charlottesville, big internet companies like Twitter and PayPal closed the accounts of genteel Dissident Right customers—including ones, like my own VDARE.com, who had nothing to do with Charlottesville.

Again, this was a new twist, a sudden small shift in society’s tectonic plates. VDARE.com was in our 18th year of doing business with Internet firms: Suddenly we were beyond the pale.

And now, following this school shooting, they’re coming for the NRA.

It’s a sudden qualitative shift, what physicists call a “phase change,” like water turning to ice. The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week, supported by banks and car rental firms, its executives photographed in smiling company with senior politicians.

Now, overnight, the NRA has become a limb of Satan. NRA head honcho Wayne LaPierre must be channeling Sir Thomas Wyatt, quote: “They flee from me that sometime did me seek,” end quote.

The Confederate flag; statues of Columbus and Jefferson and Robert E. Lee; now the NRA; the United States is being deconstructed before our eyes, ever faster.

We—we on the Dissident Right—we thought we’d won a victory in 2016 with the election of Donald Trump. Sixty-three million Americans repudiated the Cultural Revolution: that was a great and wonderful thing.

The revolutionaries were nothing deterred, though. They still hold the commanding heights of our society: corporations, universities, courts, the media. This is a cultural revolution, and politics is downstream from culture.

Yes, we won a political victory; but the Cultural Revolution marches on. They barely even broke step.

One interesting side issue has come to light after the Florida school shooting; race denialism has been an accessory to the murders. Race denialism kills.

How does that work? Well, recent years—especially the Obama years—have seen a focus on the “discipline gap” in our schools. Black and, to a lesser degree, Hispanic students were being subjected to the sterner kinds of school disciplinary procedures—suspension, expulsion, police reports—at much higher rates than Ice People students—whites and Asians.

According to race-denialist dogma, this discipline gap can only be caused by ignorance on the part of white teachers and administrators—by these white authority figures holding false stereotypes of other races—or malice; Whites hate blacks and mestizos and want to keep them down.

I’m a race realist; I think the different races have evolved overall differences in personality and behavior via natural selection, just as dog breeds have via artificial selection; and it’s those evolved differences that cause the discipline gap.

That’s a fringe view, though—crazy talk, in the opinion of well-nigh everyone in authority. Race denialism rules.

In the context of the discipline gap, the race-denialist remedy for that gap is to discipline by quota. If twenty percent of the students in your school district are black or Hispanic, then twenty percent of your suspensions and police reports better be, too—not a single percentage more!

The inevitable consequence of that is that disciplinary problems and crimes committed by black and Hispanic high-school students get swept under the carpet to make the statistics come out right.

An alternative approach would be to inflict much more severe punishments on the Ice People kids for minor disciplinary infractions.

So: Black kid flourishes a switch-blade knife at teacher, gets a stern five-minute talk from the Principal. White kid passes a note in class: three weeks’ suspension.

This would even out the statistics just as well as the other method. I don’t know why it hasn’t been tried. Perhaps for the same reason that Steve Sailer’s solution to the test-score gap has never been tried. Steve suggested hitting all the white and Asian kids on their heads with a ball-peen hammer. Education administrators just aren’t very imaginative, I guess.

One notable beneficiary of the race-denialist approach: Trayvon Martin, the black youth shot by George Zimmerman in 2012 in Miami-Dade County, right next door to Parkdale’s Broward County.

At the time, a lot of us wondered why, when stolen jewelry was found in Martin’s school backpack some time prior to his death, why he wasn’t arrested.

Here’s the answer:

Martin had been suspended twice already that school year for offenses that should have gotten him arrested. In each case, however, the case file on Martin was fudged to make the crime seem less serious than it was.

As one detective told investigators, the arrest statistics coming out of Martin’s school … had been, inner quote, “quite high,” and the detectives, inner quote, “needed to find some way to lower the stats.”

Did the Progressive ‘Broward County Solution’ Cost 17 Student Lives?, By Jack Cashill, American Thinker, February 22, 2018

Nikolas Cruz, middle name de Jesús, is a statistical Hispanic, so he got the same velvet-glove treatment as Trayvon Martin.

See also the even more detailed and informative, but anonymous, piece at Conservative Treehouse: It’s Too Late—Broward County School Board Beginning to Admit Their Mistakes?. By Sundance, February 22, 2018.

Bottom line here: Race denialism isn’t just scientifically illiterate, it’s lethal.

It’s a product of hysteria and fanatical ideology.

2010-12-24dl[1] John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  1. El Dato says:

    But Mr. Trayvon got his bachelor’s degree in aeronautical science at the end, so his engineering ability is not in question, at least.

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    Aeronautics? Not so much, but he sure loved getting high.
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  2. El Dato says:

    Who is that David Hogg guy and why is Youtube cleaning up videos about him?

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    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    , @Twodees Partain
    Hogg is a crisis actor, apparently. One of the videos on youtube that was removed showed him flubbing his lines repeatedly and being coached by someone off-camera. There's a pretty large section on him and others in this blog:

    https://birthofanewearthblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/24/florida-shooting-a-definite-false-flag/
    , @WhiteWolf
    They're censoring a lot of videos on Parkland because like many similar productions it's a manufactured event. Just a crisis drill sold as real to both distract the public and illegally disarm Americans.

    Mr Derbyshire makes a great observation on how quick narratives and what is accepted as normal change in society. It's both scary and promising. Promising because a return to sanity can be quick process once the psychopaths are out of power.
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  3. Mr. Anon says:

    Another example of this social phase change is gay marriage. Thirty years ago, virtually nobody – not even homosexuals – supported gay marriage. The “clamour” for it only started around 2000, and was widely opposed. Then, all of a sudden in 2015, the Supreme Court decided that it was implicit in the Constitution. The Founding Fathers not only would have been opposed to gay marriage, it was for them not even a category of thought – it was an idea that never even entered anybody’s mind ever. If you had mentioned it to them, their reaction would have been stares of incomprehension, as if you had suddenly started foaming at the mouth and howling like a dog.

    The trans-revolution occured even quicker, within just one or two years.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Neither gay marriage nor the trans revolution "OCCURRED."

    Both social revolutions were organized by elite interests and their "Cultural Marxist" cat's-paws in academia, Hollywood and the media for EXTRANEOUS reasons, along with the vigorous and Soros-financed campaigns to fully legalize marijuana and other psychotropic drugs.

    The aim is to undermine the structures of traditional society which remains the key force opposing an all-powerful government by a narrow and incestuous elite. NYT writers and their billionaire sponsors plan on being part of that elite, and on keeping you OUT. Can't key the hoi polloi spoil the party.

    Those personally affected clearly have valid personal interests. In the case of gay marriage, these interests properly elicit a great deal of sympathy from traditional, decent Americans.

    Nothing could be further from the concerns of "Cultural Marxists" than these humane and decent considerations. Marxists have openly advocated USING homosexuals and other marginal groups as a means to gain POWER since at least the 1920s.

    The bizarre campaign to impose trans-sexual bathroom "rights" is entirely cynical. Americans have forgotten what every illiterate Indian peasant remembers from thousands of years of human experience: that public bathrooms separated by sex were introduced to protect women from the ever-present risk of RAPE.

    Countless books about India have documented this, e.g. "Mother India" written by a female U.S. physician in the 1920s.

    Modern Americans have succumbed to the fatal misapprehension that human nature was suddenly transformed into pure light and sunshine in the 1960s.

    , @Stan d Mute

    Another example of this social phase change is gay marriage. Thirty years ago, virtually nobody – not even homosexuals – supported gay marriage. ...

    The trans-revolution occured even quicker, within just one or two years.
     
    Consider that the communist’s “long march through the institutions” is now complete. One may obtain university diplomas for subjects shockingly devoid of any reality based learning, but rather essentially theological dogma. Admin (propaganda ministers) payroll significantly exceeds professorial payroll. And younger faculty are grads of theological education programs themselves.

    The internet enabled “alternative media” which challenges the dogma of the communists (sexes are equal but men are inherently bad, races are equal but whites are inherently bad, sexual perversion is good but male heterosexual and non-pedophilic perversions are bad, economic inequality is bad but white poverty is good, etc) core principle that bourgeoisie (white men) must be destroyed. Suddenly there was a voice for the bourgeoisie instantly accessible to everyone, everywhere, anytime where previously we had crappy underground newsletters. Now we began to offer a potentially significant resistance. Instead of pulling back to regroup and perhaps rethink their core theological dogmas, the communists - perhaps due to their youthful impatience and impetuousness (communism being more a child’s game of envy than a mature adult’s careful examination of reality) - they doubled down and became even more dogmatic and radical. Gay marriage and worse still gay adoption, redefining trannies from mental illness to the idea that sex isn’t biological at all, antifa mob violence, complete abandonment of facts and reason in anthropogenic “climate change,” the absolute right of unrestricted economic migration from failed States to successful States, these are all symptoms of this doubling down.

    The current rabid furor over the 2nd Amendment (banning semi-auto firearms like AR’s merely a pretext for banning all but perhaps black powder) is inextricably tied to the furor demanding trannies in the military ranks and abandonment of military standards and discipline. The communists can’t fulfill their destiny without removing white men from the combat ranks (where we are the overwhelming majority) and disarming lawful gun owners (again white men are overwhelming majority) no matter how strongly they hold academics, politics, and culture. They HAVE to disarm us so they can finish their theological mission. And after we elected Trump, they know they have to do this NOW or risk losing ground they’ve already won and perhaps, unthinkably, lose entirely (as the root is child’s envy they’ll never lose entirely).
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    These posts are dumb though.

    Either

    1) there was a failure by the authorities and autist boy is the perp
    or
    2) it was staged and there were no dead people and autist boy is a cut-out
    or
    3) there were multiple shooters and dead people and autist boy is a cut-out

    They can't all be true at the same time.

    All my money is on 1)

    Because why stage an attack when you can have the real deal and you can Ruby the main person of interest like in a good X-Files episode.

    People proclaiming otherwise should be hunted down and explain themselves in court, where their views are sure to get all the attention they deserve.
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  5. Randal says:

    Hysterics under the guidance of ideologues

    I’m a race realist; I think the different races have evolved overall differences in personality and behavior via natural selection, just as dog breeds have via artificial selection;

    Pithy, accurate statements of truth.

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    Pithy, accurate statements of truth.

    The liberal view is that the blank slate for dog applies. Breedism is a false ideology. It is how the dog is raised etc.
    , @Stan d Mute

    Pithy, accurate statements of truth.
     
    Indeed. Although I prefer my own: Them, “All humans are same species, Homo sapiens sapiens.” Me: “All dogs are Canis lupus familiaris, therefore a chihuahua is exactly the same as my Mastiff.” Followed by, “Shut the fcuk up, you’re too stupid to make noise with your mouth.”

    Then again, I’m a 250lb fit male with a “history of violence” as they say. Use the second quote based on your own unique size and character.
    , @Paw
    Now every hysteria is to cover up something. The Monster Hysteria , like this, is to cover up
    MONSTER ARM BUILD UP IN USA , and that is exactly in urgent and bad NEED to remove it !!
    TRILLIONS DOLLARS SAY THEY ARE NEEDED FOR PEOPLE NOT AGAINST !!
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  6. Randal says:

    I think that’s right as a generalization. Reading it, in fact, brought to mind something I have found myself thinking rather often in recent years: The much-discussed Flynn Effect notwithstanding, we are in some important, unquantified way stupider than our forebears of a hundred years ago.

    Ideology enstupidises.

    Leftist ideology, doubly so.

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    Crimes , ideology and propaganda covered up by Hysteria. Like Dolf's Germany. It is all the same...
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  7. The whole anti-gun thing reminds me of the Women’s Temperance movement, which morphed into Prohibition.

    The ultimate result should be comparable.

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    Almost, Fred. However, back then, people still had respect for the US Constitution as the law of the land. An Amendment was ratified and then subsequently repealed.

    If the guns were to ever get mostly banned, in the manner of England and Australia, there is NO going back from that. The country is toast. I mean, if it ain't already.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "The ultimate result should be comparable."

    The ultimate result may well be civil war before any actual legislation or amendment is addressed by Congress.
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  8. My impression is that the U.S.A. is a much more hysterical country than it used to be.

    By U.S.A. do you not mean U.S.A. TV, Mr. Derbyshire. The U.S.A. of which you speak is that on the TV and internet, along with the social media clowns.

    It’s gotta be hard for you especially, as a poltical writer/pundit, I mean, but sometimes getting off the internet and (of course) TV for a few days can be amazing for anyone’s sanity. It’ll make you realize that most of the world is just regular good people trying to get along.

    BIG GOV and it’s most lucrative branch, the Lyin Press, thrive when they’ve got this infotainment going on. That’s why they HATE HATE HATE people that go off the grid or don’t participate, at least, in their Educational Stupidity and homeschool. ( continued here and here.) Want to be an individualist or family of survivalists? They will come to kill you.

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  9. @another fred
    The whole anti-gun thing reminds me of the Women's Temperance movement, which morphed into Prohibition.

    The ultimate result should be comparable.

    Almost, Fred. However, back then, people still had respect for the US Constitution as the law of the land. An Amendment was ratified and then subsequently repealed.

    If the guns were to ever get mostly banned, in the manner of England and Australia, there is NO going back from that. The country is toast. I mean, if it ain’t already.

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    If the guns were to ever get mostly banned, in the manner of England and Australia, there is NO going back from that. The country is toast. I mean, if it ain’t already.
     
    We are well on our way aren’t we. We’ve accepted that 2A “keep and bear ARMS” which encompassed state of the art military hardware only means “semi-auto pistols and rifles” haven’t we? About our only salvation now is the fact that our combat troops, pilots, and vets are overwhelmingly white males from the Midwest and South. But that safeguard is under fierce attack to replace them with trannies, queers, women, and diversities with criminal records. Ever wonder why?

    They can’t disarm us now and it frustrates the hell out of them. We’ve allowed them to invade and take over our culture, education of our children, but the real Power continues to reside in the fact that we remain armed (such as we are) and control food production. We are the kulaks. And all that prevents us from the kulaks fate is our hold on combat infantry and piloting. We are on the precipice.
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  10. That article was basically two themes in one. On the latter point, the lethality of the race denialism, I agree. However, I will say that the fact that people get killed due to people’s cowardice on thinking of bad thoughts and mouthing off in-PC doesn’t seem to be a problem for people, so far. Who was the idiot PC multi-star Army General who told us after a number of people got killed and maimed at Ft. Hood, that this is OK, so long as diversity is not a victim? Those murders also had race denialism as a major contributing factor.

    Going backwards to your 1st point in the article, I personally think it’s 5,000,000 members make the NRA an organization that is too big to push over like VDare (bless all of you, but it’s a small operation). The NRA has economic might, via the members, and lots more who just don’t get around to joining, to push back against big business.

    There was the yearly “shot-show”, firearms and hunting exhibition/trade-show that became a feud a few years back between the NRA and the hosts/venue, as the latter sucked up to the politicians on some anti-gun rhetoric. The NRA found another host/venue for the show and never looked back. The NRA has not been as stalwart in defending the right to bear arms as the Gun Owners of America. However, being BIG can be a very good thing.

    Don’t back down, NRA. We’re behind you.

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    I agree that the NRA is just too big and powerful for even the liberals to destroy.
    , @animalogic
    Few will agree, but re: the NRA I think Derb' is being just a little hysterical himself. (And yes I do agree that a kind of pissy hysteria has overtaken most of the Western world)
    However, the revoking of special Visa deals and rental discounts do NOT amount to "phase change" or a massive cultural rupture.
    The NRA is not an abstraction such as the meaning attached to a confederate flag.
    The NRA is a huge organization, with millions of members, 100's of millions of $$ and huge political influence.
    What Mr Derbyshire refers to is analogous to a nip by a suger ant.
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  11. Demi says:
    @El Dato
    Who is that David Hogg guy and why is Youtube cleaning up videos about him?

    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded ‘crisis actors’ in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff’s deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. “The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week”. No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

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    • Troll: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Randal

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive.
     
    To you, perhaps, but judging from your comment that's mostly because you disagree with his politics on the issue and share the objectives of those trying to use hysteria to manipulate US society into gun control measures you can't achieve honestly by calmly reasoned political effort.

    For many others his characterisations are just accurate descriptions of the situation.

    Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action.
     
    As I noted, you seek to achieve political objectives by hysteria and sentimental emotive manipulation that you cannot achieve via calm and reasoned politics. Which is pretty much what Derbyshire was highlighting with his comment about "ideologues guiding hysterics".

    “The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week”. No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

     

    The NRA, with 5 million members one of the largest American political lobbying organisations, is "not respectable" in your opinion because it pursues political objectives that you disagree with.

    And this is supposed to be of some significance?

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
     
    Probably wise. You will probably be happier on a mainstream outlet where you are less likely to be exposed to political opinions that are too upsetting for you, and we here will have one less hysteric ranting about "attacking victims" and conservative opinions being "offensive".

    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.
     
    So now you seek to imply that having a different opinion from you on a political issue is "attacking victims"? Or are you referring to the alleged misrepresentation you mentioned in your first paragraph, which nobody other than you has mentioned in the article above or, so far as I'd noticed, in the comments beneath?
    , @El Dato
    Thanks.
    , @eah
    Videos were created and manipulated

    Exactly how were they "manipulated"?

    As you must be aware, Hogg allegedly created videos too -- including during the event itself -- have you seen them?

    This account had a whole series of tweets about it: Interviews @davidhogg111 conducted during the #Parkland shooting were reported in the @MiamiHerald. In the clip, Hogg asks a peer “what’s your message?” She answers. He then asks, “do you want to say anything else?” She declines. Then he whispers “come on” & “we need diversity”?

    You should browse the above thread -- one has to concede there are some odd/fishy things about this.

    Here's the part where he clearly says it's 9:32am -- timestamp: 0:52 "It is currently 9:32 and I am interviewing so and so" yet he passed this video off as if it was during the shooting hours later!

    A foto of some distressed "survivors" after the shooting:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWYFoeCV4AAbmZ9.jpg

    , @Harold Smith
    "If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded ‘crisis actors’ in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff’s deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence."

    Of course Hogg is "acting"; otherwise, he wouldn't be making excuses for the cops that had a duty to intervene but failed for some reason.
    , @Harold Smith
    "If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded ‘crisis actors’ in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff’s deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence."

    Of course Hogg is "acting"; otherwise, he wouldn't be making excuses for the cops that had a duty to intervene but failed for some reason.
    , @MBlanc46
    Don’t let the door swat you in the rear end on the way out.
    , @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Ms. Demi's a half-witted hen;
    When she writes, she's a quarter-wit then.
    And this you may quote:
    Giving women the vote
    Was the stupidest thing done by men.
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.
     
    I've never owned a gun, so I have no personal skin in the game. However, even the slightest amount of research into the 2nd Amendment makes clear that the Founding Fathers intention was to guarantee an armed citizenry for two main purposes:

    1. Because they never expected the U.S. to have a permanent standing army, the FF reasoned that state militias would be the first line of defense against any foreign invaders. An armed populace was necessary for these militia to exist.

    2. The FF was acutely aware that the Americans would never have won the war against the British if individual citizens didn't have their own firearms. The FF were also acutely aware that any government - including your own government (especially your own government) - can attempt to take away the rights of individuals. They believed that the best check on tyranny was an armed citizenry.

    So not only does the 2nd Amendment not preclude citizens from purchasing military grade assualt rifles, it positively encourages it. The FF wanted a citizenry that would be extremely dangerous to the government and the military if the citizenry felt that its rights were being curtailed.

    And before you argue that individual citizens armed with only rifles couldn't take on the U.S. military with its tanks, jets fighters and drones, I'd suggest that you look at what happened to the vaunted U.S. military in Vietnam against a bunch of guys with AK-47s and rocket launchers. Then, I'd suggest that you notice that the U.S. is losing to a bunch of really stupid gusy armed with only assault rifles and road-side bombs in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Now, I can understand the arguments against the 2nd Amendment as constituted, but it is what it is. If you want to change it, that's fine, but you'll need to change the Constitution to do so.
    , @ChrisD
    David Hogg is a paid actor who was brought in to Parkland to spin the anti-gun narrative. The false claims made by CNN and others that the guy is simply a 'regular student' have been debunked with evidence coming out that CNN coached him and gave him scripted lines, and the fact Hogg has a talent agent contracted.

    The fact Hogg and others claim there was a single lone 'crazy' shooter also doesn't gel with earlier eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters in police armour and helmets.
    , @Twodees Partain
    I applied the troll tag to you because the shill tag hasn't been made available yet. It's ok, though. You qualify for both.
    , @ThreeCranes
    I can understand why a person would refuse to follow a site e.g. The New York Times and Salon, both of which refuse to post comments by persons who stray from the Halacha Laws as they conceive them, but you have not been censored here. You are free to--and did--say your piece and speak your mind. Why would you throw that away?

    Here, we tolerate and encourage free speech. Don't give up that Right so easily. Standing your ground is not impermissible hereabouts. Whereas Trayvon struck down a brave man who stood his ground, you flee when none pursueth.
    , @Stan d Mute

    The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.
     
    I always wonder when I read statements like these, is it just stupidity or is it malicious propaganda? Anyone with an ounce of reason can easily stumble to the facts and draw the obvious conclusions.

    Nearly every firearm sold is functionally a semi-automatic weapon and the vilified “assault rifle” is ridiculously underpowered relative to a 12ga semi-auto shotgun much less something like a Weatherby .460 or a .600/.700 Nitro. Further, the uber common Glock 17 is far deadlier for the average mental defective to possess due to its concealability versus any rifle. With its scary black plastic, the Glock will be the next AR despite little practical difference versus a pretty double action nickel plated .357 or .44 magnum with a speedloader.

    They attack the AR because it looks scary with all that menacing black plastic, but it’s really just a proxy for ultimately banning all guns isn’t it? Eventually they’ll come for the single action revolvers and black powder muzzle loaders won’t they? Then crossbows and compound bows and broadhead bolts/arrows. They want us disarmed, period.
    , @Ploni almoni
    This is no law which prevents a student from being a crisis actor. The sooner children become crisis actors the better. If a sheriff's deputy does nothing when nothing happens is that a crime? Of course it is in a totalitarian state.
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  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Nikolas Cruz, middle name de Jesús

    His middle name is Jacob. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting

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    His middle name is Jacob.
     
    You are not supposed to do it to John Derbyshire. de Jesus was the literary device to tie the shooting to his favorite topic of what he calls race realism on which he could write extensively while frankly he had nothing to say about the shooting and just deflected it by focusing on hysteria.

    And when it come to hysteria I wonder how John Derbyshire responded to 9/11 hysteria. Was he a voice of reason warning us against going to war in Afghanistan and later to Iraq?
    , @anonymous
    his birth mother was, apparently, Jewish,

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Florida-shooter-expressed-hate-for-Jews-via-private-chat-542895
    "In one tirade against his biological mother, Cruz said: “My real mom was a Jew. I am glad I never met her,” according to CNN."
     
    and his biological brother is, apparently, Black/brown

    https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/photo-shows-accused-florida-gunman-his-brother-holding-moms-ashes/

    Cruz's foster parents moved from Long Island (code for 'Jewish') to Florida

    The first attorney who spoke for Cruz was Jewish

    Suspected school shooter will plead guilty if death penalty is off the table
    https://www.cbsnews.com/.../nikolas-cruz-suspected-school-shooter-plead-guilty-death...
    Feb 17, 2018 - PARKLAND, Fla. -- The gunman accused of killing 17 people inside a Florida high school will plead guilty if prosecutors take the death penalty off the table, Broward County Public Defender Howard Finkelstein confirmed Saturday. Finkelstein is representing Nikolas Cruz, who is being held without bail
     
    Broward County is home to one of Florida's largest Jewish populations; it's also home to Jewish organization CFNS, https://cfns.us/leadership-team/ , whose leadership team/advisors includes ideologues such as Walid Phares and Daniel Pipes.
    CFNS is funded by Aubrey Chernick, who also funds CAMERA, the organization dedicated to censoring free speech.
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  13. Randal says:
    @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive.

    To you, perhaps, but judging from your comment that’s mostly because you disagree with his politics on the issue and share the objectives of those trying to use hysteria to manipulate US society into gun control measures you can’t achieve honestly by calmly reasoned political effort.

    For many others his characterisations are just accurate descriptions of the situation.

    Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action.

    As I noted, you seek to achieve political objectives by hysteria and sentimental emotive manipulation that you cannot achieve via calm and reasoned politics. Which is pretty much what Derbyshire was highlighting with his comment about “ideologues guiding hysterics”.

    “The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week”. No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    The NRA, with 5 million members one of the largest American political lobbying organisations, is “not respectable” in your opinion because it pursues political objectives that you disagree with.

    And this is supposed to be of some significance?

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.

    Probably wise. You will probably be happier on a mainstream outlet where you are less likely to be exposed to political opinions that are too upsetting for you, and we here will have one less hysteric ranting about “attacking victims” and conservative opinions being “offensive”.

    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    So now you seek to imply that having a different opinion from you on a political issue is “attacking victims”? Or are you referring to the alleged misrepresentation you mentioned in your first paragraph, which nobody other than you has mentioned in the article above or, so far as I’d noticed, in the comments beneath?

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    Who are you trying to impress by dissecting the last half of my comment. Was there nothing noteworthy in the first half?
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  14. Demi says:
    @Randal

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive.
     
    To you, perhaps, but judging from your comment that's mostly because you disagree with his politics on the issue and share the objectives of those trying to use hysteria to manipulate US society into gun control measures you can't achieve honestly by calmly reasoned political effort.

    For many others his characterisations are just accurate descriptions of the situation.

    Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action.
     
    As I noted, you seek to achieve political objectives by hysteria and sentimental emotive manipulation that you cannot achieve via calm and reasoned politics. Which is pretty much what Derbyshire was highlighting with his comment about "ideologues guiding hysterics".

    “The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week”. No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

     

    The NRA, with 5 million members one of the largest American political lobbying organisations, is "not respectable" in your opinion because it pursues political objectives that you disagree with.

    And this is supposed to be of some significance?

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
     
    Probably wise. You will probably be happier on a mainstream outlet where you are less likely to be exposed to political opinions that are too upsetting for you, and we here will have one less hysteric ranting about "attacking victims" and conservative opinions being "offensive".

    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.
     
    So now you seek to imply that having a different opinion from you on a political issue is "attacking victims"? Or are you referring to the alleged misrepresentation you mentioned in your first paragraph, which nobody other than you has mentioned in the article above or, so far as I'd noticed, in the comments beneath?

    Who are you trying to impress by dissecting the last half of my comment. Was there nothing noteworthy in the first half?

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    The first half of your comment bore no relation to the article and seemed to be merely a direct response to El Dato's factual query, plus some editorialising on your part.

    It was of no relevance to the article and of little interest to me.

    So the direct answers to your two queries are "eh?" and "no".
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  15. Mr. Anon says:

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. “The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week”. No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    Military rifles purchased at gun shows are exactly the kind of thing the second amendment was intended to protect. The american colonists in 1775 had assault weapons. They were called “muskets”. That’s what a musket was in the 18th century. And they didn’t buy them from an FFL dealer.

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    The real point of the Second Amendment is to help protect states from takeover by an overweaning government.

    More broadly, the Second Amendment is the bodyguard of all other individual rights, especially the First Amendment. Look at the UK and Europe and see the pitiful state of what they thought were their "rights" until the establishment decided to take them away in an accelerating take-over.
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  16. Svigor says:

    We—we on the Dissident Right—we thought we’d won a victory in 2016 with the election of Donald Trump. Sixty-three million Americans repudiated the Cultural Revolution: that was a great and wonderful thing.

    It’s good when totalitarians turn up the heat.

    “The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.”

    It’s easy to hate the left when they have their boot on your neck.

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    • Replies: @Greasy William
    Exactly. The Left is doing exactly what we want them to do. I'm not saying all is well but things are playing out the way we want so far.
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  17. Svigor says:

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. “The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week”. No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    M4s and the class of military rifle they represent are select-fire. Civilians can’t buy a select-fire weapon in the US, unless they buy one of the tiny number of grandfathered weapons (or an RDIAS, etc.) for like ten thousand dollars.

    Select fire or “automatic” weapons have been used in like zero mass shootings in the US.

    Many military weapons (e.g., M70, if I’m getting my nomenclature right) are pretty much identical to civilian weapons (in the M70′s case, again IIRC, it’s a Remington 700, one of the most popular hunting rifles in America).

    The whole point of the 2nd Amendment was to put military-grade weapons permanently into the hands of the citizenry; the M4 is the modern musket.

    The most obnoxious thing about gun-grabbers is their complete ignorance about guns. Gun control is the politics of the gelding.

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  18. El Dato says:
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/ramzpaul/status/967704762257944577

    These posts are dumb though.

    Either

    1) there was a failure by the authorities and autist boy is the perp
    or
    2) it was staged and there were no dead people and autist boy is a cut-out
    or
    3) there were multiple shooters and dead people and autist boy is a cut-out

    They can’t all be true at the same time.

    All my money is on 1)

    Because why stage an attack when you can have the real deal and you can Ruby the main person of interest like in a good X-Files episode.

    People proclaiming otherwise should be hunted down and explain themselves in court, where their views are sure to get all the attention they deserve.

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    People proclaiming otherwise should be hunted down

    I see.

    and explain themselves in court

    What would be the/a reasonable charge?
    , @Jonathan Revusky

    Because why stage an attack when you can have the real deal
     
    Your rhetorical question suggests that you haven't really thought this through. The answer should be obvious.

    The answer is this: if something is staged, you completely control the narrative.

    A crisis actor says exactly what you want him or her to say, hitting all the desired talking points. A genuine survivor or witness might say all kinds of things that do not suit your agenda.
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  19. El Dato says:
    @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    Thanks.

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  20. Randal says:
    @Demi
    Who are you trying to impress by dissecting the last half of my comment. Was there nothing noteworthy in the first half?

    The first half of your comment bore no relation to the article and seemed to be merely a direct response to El Dato’s factual query, plus some editorialising on your part.

    It was of no relevance to the article and of little interest to me.

    So the direct answers to your two queries are “eh?” and “no”.

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    Randal, you may have also noticed that the first part of her little shill screed was also a pack of lies.
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  21. Svigor says:

    No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.

    No loss. There’s little point in red-pilling someone who hasn’t even made it to cuckservatism yet. Red-pilling liberals is cuckservatives’ job.

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  22. Svigor says:

    The M4 is the modern musket

    And the AR-15 is the less-powerful civilian substitute, but it’s good enough to be our modern musket, IMO.

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    The AR15 is as powerful as the M4 (if you'd call the .223 powerful), but it is semi-auto only, while the M4 is select fire and will fire full auto, 3 round burst or semi-auto by flipping the selector to one of the settings.
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  23. eah says:
    @El Dato
    These posts are dumb though.

    Either

    1) there was a failure by the authorities and autist boy is the perp
    or
    2) it was staged and there were no dead people and autist boy is a cut-out
    or
    3) there were multiple shooters and dead people and autist boy is a cut-out

    They can't all be true at the same time.

    All my money is on 1)

    Because why stage an attack when you can have the real deal and you can Ruby the main person of interest like in a good X-Files episode.

    People proclaiming otherwise should be hunted down and explain themselves in court, where their views are sure to get all the attention they deserve.

    People proclaiming otherwise should be hunted down

    I see.

    and explain themselves in court

    What would be the/a reasonable charge?

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    What would be the/a reasonable charge?
     
    Being fucking asseholes sounds like a good charge.

    They are bringing noise to the table. Jaws have been broken for less.

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  24. eah says:
    @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    Videos were created and manipulated

    Exactly how were they “manipulated”?

    As you must be aware, Hogg allegedly created videos too — including during the event itself — have you seen them?

    This account had a whole series of tweets about it: Interviews @davidhogg111 conducted during the #Parkland shooting were reported in the @MiamiHerald. In the clip, Hogg asks a peer “what’s your message?” She answers. He then asks, “do you want to say anything else?” She declines. Then he whispers “come on” & “we need diversity”?

    You should browse the above thread — one has to concede there are some odd/fishy things about this.

    Here’s the part where he clearly says it’s 9:32am — timestamp: 0:52 “It is currently 9:32 and I am interviewing so and so” yet he passed this video off as if it was during the shooting hours later!

    A foto of some distressed “survivors” after the shooting:

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    https://twitter.com/EllenD_world/status/966819914190385160
    , @Neoconned
    They look like models hustling for a TV show contract....
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  25. eah says:
    @eah
    Videos were created and manipulated

    Exactly how were they "manipulated"?

    As you must be aware, Hogg allegedly created videos too -- including during the event itself -- have you seen them?

    This account had a whole series of tweets about it: Interviews @davidhogg111 conducted during the #Parkland shooting were reported in the @MiamiHerald. In the clip, Hogg asks a peer “what’s your message?” She answers. He then asks, “do you want to say anything else?” She declines. Then he whispers “come on” & “we need diversity”?

    You should browse the above thread -- one has to concede there are some odd/fishy things about this.

    Here's the part where he clearly says it's 9:32am -- timestamp: 0:52 "It is currently 9:32 and I am interviewing so and so" yet he passed this video off as if it was during the shooting hours later!

    A foto of some distressed "survivors" after the shooting:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWYFoeCV4AAbmZ9.jpg

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    Sometimes posting twitter links here does not work -- link to the tweet -- watch the short video clip of the three shooting survivors -- does that look like normal behavior by people who've just been through such an experience?
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  26. Anonym says:
    @Randal

    Hysterics under the guidance of ideologues
     


    I’m a race realist; I think the different races have evolved overall differences in personality and behavior via natural selection, just as dog breeds have via artificial selection;
     
    Pithy, accurate statements of truth.

    Pithy, accurate statements of truth.

    The liberal view is that the blank slate for dog applies. Breedism is a false ideology. It is how the dog is raised etc.

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    The truth is its BOTH. Genetics AND environment play a part. Disentangling these two is the HARD.
    , @Randal

    The liberal view is that the blank slate for dog applies. Breedism is a false ideology. It is how the dog is raised etc.
     
    Yes, but the only liberals who could sustain such a belief are those who either don't own dogs or who do but have a fantastic capacity for suppressing observations of reality in favour of ideologically based "truth".

    We have a couple of labradors, and friends who own a "cockerpoo" iirc. Our dogs have learned to, whenever we visit those friends, beeline for their dog's food bowl, where there is invariably some food left waiting for the dog to feel hungry again (it's not overweight, mind you). The concept of "leftover food" is not one that exists for labradors.
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  27. Neoconned says:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/no-rise-mass-killings-impact-huge-article-1.1221062

    Mass shootings and “active shooter” incidents are NOT BECOMING MORE COMMON. In fact they were far higher in the 1990s than they are now and we’re even higher in the 80s….but if you believed the media there’s a new one every week….

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  28. Neoconned says:
    @eah
    Videos were created and manipulated

    Exactly how were they "manipulated"?

    As you must be aware, Hogg allegedly created videos too -- including during the event itself -- have you seen them?

    This account had a whole series of tweets about it: Interviews @davidhogg111 conducted during the #Parkland shooting were reported in the @MiamiHerald. In the clip, Hogg asks a peer “what’s your message?” She answers. He then asks, “do you want to say anything else?” She declines. Then he whispers “come on” & “we need diversity”?

    You should browse the above thread -- one has to concede there are some odd/fishy things about this.

    Here's the part where he clearly says it's 9:32am -- timestamp: 0:52 "It is currently 9:32 and I am interviewing so and so" yet he passed this video off as if it was during the shooting hours later!

    A foto of some distressed "survivors" after the shooting:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWYFoeCV4AAbmZ9.jpg

    They look like models hustling for a TV show contract….

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    no shit

    like that distressed father from Sandy Hook, the one who couldn't keep a straight face
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  29. eah says:

    Seems to be an agenda here.

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    I am not an advocate of tearing down monuments. Though I can certainly understand one might find them offensive. Short form, they launched a war against the US and are therefore traitors. Whether one like it or not the traitors lost their bid for a new confederacy or nation as it were. They chose make war and the choice of politics and lost.

    It's unusual for a country to embrace traitors as patriots, muchless hoist up monuments in their stead. Despite the tragedy of the civil war it remains a nostalgic nexus of common union and bond. Where the author slips off his contend is by dragging the historical sites into the analysis. I have visited those battle fields and walked among those tombstones. I can certainly attest to sense of presence of the those events still ringing , whistling and beckoning to this day. It evokes a reverence rarely experienced about what citizenship means. That these historical sites sells flags and about which there is very little conflict, just makes sense. Though Pres Lincoln gad n intention of launching a war to free slaves, that too was a consequence. And the subsequent amendments guaranteeing their citizenship - settled the question of slavery - a system in complete contradiction to the very fundamentals of why the nation was formed.

    That black citizens did not protest casting traitors as patriots is a testament to a singular truth -- being politically correct was more valuable than to their well being than calling the traitor worship.
    In fact, its hard to imagine a people subject to more politically correct nonsense than former slaves and their descendants. Tributes to traitors is but a thin veil of what was expected as to politically correct speech and manner. In fact, the entire black population had to sit through a national celebration of the southern traitors since the end of the civil war. Let's be honest, if you make claims about "all men being equal" and I don't think they were speaking intellectually, but rather subject to sameness as to the law -- and self determination -- slavery is devastating hypocrisy that severs the very core of the nation. But let's forgoe a critique of the founders a it is my recollection, any suggestion that the founders were logically and moral compromises of the worst order -- is politically incorrect. I think it is safe to safe that as part of the historical record selling civil war memorabilia , especially at locations in which history took place is probably safe ground.
    __________________

    As for emotionalism and genetics, the record is pretty clear that most of the violence with regard to biological trait of skin color, a benign condition, it's pretty clear that whites as a group have exhibited the highest degree of emotionalism. war against native Americans, wars against each other, even the use of force to ensure slaves, the civil war itself, was a white hyperbolic tantrum because of Pres Lincoln's election. When it was very clear, had cooler heads prevailed, Pres Lincoln had no intention of doing anything to free slaves. Good grief, the revolutionary war itself is loaded with emotional tantrums over issues as reasonable as colonies finally paying their fair share of British investment - feed and house the troops that made safe life possible -- the audacity of the mother country to expect the colonies to support the military- tantrums.

    The most important complication of the genetics question rests with which weighs the heavier on human behavior and emotional expression. That remains a puzzle. But a glance around suggests the least emotional people are the Brits - God save the queen (not intended to incite a ill informed discussion bout God's existence and that dynamic between Jews and christians). But even then, if one examines British history, the reasons for mayhem and murder and war -- makes it clear even they are not immune.

    I noticed one comment included women. Even as a fan of Carrie Nation, women's suffrage, etc. I think one has to include white women as distinct. After-all they are part and parcel to white people's hysterics as much as white men and more, male histrionics is often on behalf of the histrionics of white women. I guess one can suppose that among whites one gets a double dose of histrionics.

    Even the supposed even keel of asian persona requires a wading through a mountain of or two of blood intrigue and death. I am not a supporter of riots, but measuring why riots occurred in the cities during the 1970's and since, were response to measurable practices. Nothing as mundane as a black citizen, moving into the neighborhood or black kids playing on public beaches.

    If you think modern plumbing began in the renaissance, well, gatekeeping history matters:

    https://www.plumbingsupply.com/pmbabylon.html

    No doubt history will reveal that even they got their tech from someone else and built on it. But these are minuets of history not some static conclusion of truth.
    , @Nappyman
    She is not speaking about white people. Her comment is about Young People in general.
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    but all of those statements were done out of compassion. Poor lad. He is just so compassionate he can't help but want to kill those who don't share his level of compassion.
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  31. eah says:
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/EllenD_world/status/966819914190385160

    Sometimes posting twitter links here does not work — link to the tweet — watch the short video clip of the three shooting survivors — does that look like normal behavior by people who’ve just been through such an experience?

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  32. eah says:

    InfoWars Receives YouTube Termination Warning Over “Crisis Actor” Video

    Why is the Establishment so worried about a few kooky videos made by wacko ‘conspiracy theorists’?

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    to be honest, I kinda understand why. there are alot of stupid people who will believe in anything.

    but I am also a super supporter of free speech. no matter how retarded alex jones is, no censorship.
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  33. Realist says:

    “I and my wife…”

    My wife and I…

    FIFY

    It is considered courteous to put the first person pronoun last, after any reference to anyone else.

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  34. @eah
    InfoWars Receives YouTube Termination Warning Over "Crisis Actor" Video

    Why is the Establishment so worried about a few kooky videos made by wacko 'conspiracy theorists'?

    to be honest, I kinda understand why. there are alot of stupid people who will believe in anything.

    but I am also a super supporter of free speech. no matter how retarded alex jones is, no censorship.

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  35. denjae says:

    Check the link for a pic of the perps . . .

    DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. – They pretended to be part of the planned nationwide peaceful protest against gun violence in schools, but instead, police said some Clarkston High School students ended up trashing a store.

    http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/officials-georgia-student-protesters-trash-convenience-store

    Not to worry . . . there’s a fix . . . or, as one might alternatively say . . . the-fix-is-in

    Clarkston. The self-proclaimed “Ellis Island of the south” . . .

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/clarkston-georgia-refugee-resettlement-program

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  36. “The ideologues are cheering on the hysterics from behind. Also guiding them: People whose emotions rule their intellects can easily be guided by skillful manipulators of emotion.”

    If only the killer had used drones, missiles and bombs and labeled the victims “suspected militants” or something like that, all this post-atrocity brouhaha could’ve been avoided.

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  37. @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    “If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded ‘crisis actors’ in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff’s deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.”

    Of course Hogg is “acting”; otherwise, he wouldn’t be making excuses for the cops that had a duty to intervene but failed for some reason.

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    Not true...
    Hogg graduated two years ago from a school in California. He is a crisis actor receiving his "15 minutes of fame"..
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  38. @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    “If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded ‘crisis actors’ in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff’s deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.”

    Of course Hogg is “acting”; otherwise, he wouldn’t be making excuses for the cops that had a duty to intervene but failed for some reason.

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  39. MBlanc46 says:
    @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    Don’t let the door swat you in the rear end on the way out.

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  40. @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    Ms. Demi’s a half-witted hen;
    When she writes, she’s a quarter-wit then.
    And this you may quote:
    Giving women the vote
    Was the stupidest thing done by men.

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  41. Look how suspiciously fast the gun-grabbing agenda was so spectacularly rolled out, replete with baying sheep children and vicious personal attacks on the NRA spokesperson.

    Meanwhile, the Sheriff had been covering up for officers who failed to intervene on the scene until video surfaced proving same, and the incredible allowances granted the shooter – what, with 39 calls to the home, multiple reports to the FBI, the school, etc…

    The legacy media’s response, in conjunction with big pharma whose drugs pulse through the veins of these school shooters is to censor. Shut up, hurry up and grab the guns before we learn even more about how they let this happen as they did in Fast and Furious.

    Our local school has had several lockdowns already this year with kids forced to cower in dark school rooms on the floor, peeing and pooping in the class garbage cans until the troopers give the “all clear”. This is obviously training to be mass murder victims. Ours are learning MMA and firearms in homeschool. Our kids will fight and prevail. Their kids will be slaughtered. Hysteria won’t stop an assailant. Training will.

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  42. RodW says:

    Likening muskets to assault weapons is ahistorical. Muskets gradually evolved into long range rifles which were fixed with bayonets for assaults, i.e., fast, close-in combat.

    In WWII, the Russians and Germans developed a new category of weapon, the assault rifle, which wasn’t much use at long range but could shoot reasonably accurately at mid-range, and spray bullets lethally at short range, making bayonets largely obsolete.

    Today’s assault rifles have now become effective at long range too. But their heritage is not the musket. Their heritage is the WWII assault weapon.

    Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.

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    Actually Rod 'assault' rifles were carried by the militia in the revolution. The muskets, carried by the British, were smooth bore and quite inferior to the "Kentucky" rifles carried by the colonists. The rifle carried by the common infantryman is an assault rifle regardless of its appearance or configuration. Today in the American military it is the M-16 variant chambered for the 5.56 mm NATO round.
    , @Eustace Tilley (not)
    A hippie would stick in a flower;
    The Founders liked Balance of Power.
    Should the Dutch fight the Reich
    Bearing halberd and pike?
    It takes cannon to topple a tower.
    , @Realist
    Any semi automatic rifle can do what an "assault rifle" can do.
    , @Alden
    I thought the colonists used the Kentucky long rifle. It was developed in Pennsylvania by German gunsmiths working with the Anglo and scots Irish frontiersmen a couple decades before the revolution.
    , @Harold Smith
    "Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for."

    So what exactly was the "constitutional amendment" "calling for"?
    , @Mr. Anon

    In WWII, the Russians and Germans developed a new category of weapon, the assault rifle, which wasn’t much use at long range but could shoot reasonably accurately at mid-range, and spray bullets lethally at short range, making bayonets largely obsolete.
     
    The AR that you purchase at your friendly neighborhood gun store does not have the full-auto option that the M-16 had, or even the 3-round burst mode that its modern equivalent has. And what do you mean by "spray bullets leathally". Bullets can be lethal if they hit, whether sprayed or fired after careful aim has been taken. For most of WWII, the US army used, as standard issue, a semi-automatic rifle: the M-1. And submachineguns, which could spray pistol ammunition, were in common use throughout the war.

    But their heritage is not the musket.
     
    Ahistorical nonsense. The 18th century smoothbore musket was the shoulder-arm used by european armies - it was the assault weapon of it's day.

    The whole "but the founding fathers never imagined today's technology" line could be used to argue against the 1st amendment too. They never imagined radio, television, or the internet. So is the whole freedom of the press / freedom of speech thing outmoded too?
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  43. @RodW
    Likening muskets to assault weapons is ahistorical. Muskets gradually evolved into long range rifles which were fixed with bayonets for assaults, i.e., fast, close-in combat.

    In WWII, the Russians and Germans developed a new category of weapon, the assault rifle, which wasn’t much use at long range but could shoot reasonably accurately at mid-range, and spray bullets lethally at short range, making bayonets largely obsolete.

    Today’s assault rifles have now become effective at long range too. But their heritage is not the musket. Their heritage is the WWII assault weapon.

    Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.

    Actually Rod ‘assault’ rifles were carried by the militia in the revolution. The muskets, carried by the British, were smooth bore and quite inferior to the “Kentucky” rifles carried by the colonists. The rifle carried by the common infantryman is an assault rifle regardless of its appearance or configuration. Today in the American military it is the M-16 variant chambered for the 5.56 mm NATO round.

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  44. @RodW
    Likening muskets to assault weapons is ahistorical. Muskets gradually evolved into long range rifles which were fixed with bayonets for assaults, i.e., fast, close-in combat.

    In WWII, the Russians and Germans developed a new category of weapon, the assault rifle, which wasn’t much use at long range but could shoot reasonably accurately at mid-range, and spray bullets lethally at short range, making bayonets largely obsolete.

    Today’s assault rifles have now become effective at long range too. But their heritage is not the musket. Their heritage is the WWII assault weapon.

    Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.

    A hippie would stick in a flower;
    The Founders liked Balance of Power.
    Should the Dutch fight the Reich
    Bearing halberd and pike?
    It takes cannon to topple a tower.

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  45. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.

    Quite so, the authors of the Bill of Rights, were they alive today, they would be very unlikely to approve of lunatics over the age of 18 being free to buy high-powered rifles to use to shoot and kill large numbers of schoolchildren. They were thinking of the need for militias in a country where there was no police force, a need to guard against slave rebellions, a possibility of having to confront pirates or invading forces, and so on. But just as with gay marriage, they would be forced to accept that times have changed and I doubt that they would be sticking to their guns on the Second Amendment.

    Certainly they were thinking of group activities, and not in terms of arming lone gunmen.

    It is unfortunate that gun control is seen as a political issue rather than as a risk management and harm reduction issue in which each community is not able to make its own rules. There are about as many guns and rifles as people in the US, so this should be no more partisan than regulations about lawn mowers or motorbikes.

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    "Quite so, the authors of the Bill of Rights, were they alive today, they would be very unlikely to approve of lunatics over the age of 18 being free to buy high-powered rifles to use to shoot and kill large numbers of schoolchildren."

    What's wrong with mass murder? The U.S. government does it all the time, but I don't see anybody organizing protests, marches, etc. I don't see the kosher kommunists and their media organ making a big deal out of it when Orange Clown commits another heinous war crime in some far away place.

    If mass-murdering lunatic Donald John Trump can go into Syria with cruise missiles why can't a lunatic mass-murderer like Cruz go into a school with a rifle?

    Maybe the mass murdering U.S. "government" should start leading by example for a change?

    Moreover, Donald John Trump's mass murders risk starting a nuclear war with Russia and/or China, which could end life as we know it on this planet. So yeah let's ban "assault rifles" but we'll just sit there mute while nuclear armed jihadi madman Donald John Trump flirts with planetary extinction.
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  46. @Jonathan Mason

    The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.
     
    Quite so, the authors of the Bill of Rights, were they alive today, they would be very unlikely to approve of lunatics over the age of 18 being free to buy high-powered rifles to use to shoot and kill large numbers of schoolchildren. They were thinking of the need for militias in a country where there was no police force, a need to guard against slave rebellions, a possibility of having to confront pirates or invading forces, and so on. But just as with gay marriage, they would be forced to accept that times have changed and I doubt that they would be sticking to their guns on the Second Amendment.

    Certainly they were thinking of group activities, and not in terms of arming lone gunmen.

    It is unfortunate that gun control is seen as a political issue rather than as a risk management and harm reduction issue in which each community is not able to make its own rules. There are about as many guns and rifles as people in the US, so this should be no more partisan than regulations about lawn mowers or motorbikes.

    “Quite so, the authors of the Bill of Rights, were they alive today, they would be very unlikely to approve of lunatics over the age of 18 being free to buy high-powered rifles to use to shoot and kill large numbers of schoolchildren.”

    What’s wrong with mass murder? The U.S. government does it all the time, but I don’t see anybody organizing protests, marches, etc. I don’t see the kosher kommunists and their media organ making a big deal out of it when Orange Clown commits another heinous war crime in some far away place.

    If mass-murdering lunatic Donald John Trump can go into Syria with cruise missiles why can’t a lunatic mass-murderer like Cruz go into a school with a rifle?

    Maybe the mass murdering U.S. “government” should start leading by example for a change?

    Moreover, Donald John Trump’s mass murders risk starting a nuclear war with Russia and/or China, which could end life as we know it on this planet. So yeah let’s ban “assault rifles” but we’ll just sit there mute while nuclear armed jihadi madman Donald John Trump flirts with planetary extinction.

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  47. Svigor says:

    Likening muskets to assault weapons is ahistorical. Muskets gradually evolved into long range rifles which were fixed with bayonets for assaults, i.e., fast, close-in combat.

    In WWII, the Russians and Germans developed a new category of weapon, the assault rifle, which wasn’t much use at long range but could shoot reasonably accurately at mid-range, and spray bullets lethally at short range, making bayonets largely obsolete.

    Today’s assault rifles have now become effective at long range too. But their heritage is not the musket. Their heritage is the WWII assault weapon.

    Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.

    Your facts don’t support your thesis. Muskets really were the AR15s of their day. The typical soldier carried one into battle, just as today’s typical soldier carries an M4, a weapon nearly identical to the AR15.

    P.S., subguns were a way bigger thing in WWII than assault rifles were. Assault rifles were too new, still having the kinks worked out until after the war was over. Ironically, subguns are now largely a niche thing, having been displaced by SBRs.

    A hippie would stick in a flower;
    The Founders liked Balance of Power.
    Should the Dutch fight the Reich
    Bearing halberd and pike?
    It takes cannon to topple a tower.

    Loving the poetry Eustace, keep it coming.

    Quite so, the authors of the Bill of Rights, were they alive today, they would be very unlikely to approve of lunatics over the age of 18 being free to buy high-powered rifles to use to shoot and kill large numbers of schoolchildren. They were thinking of the need for militias in a country where there was no police force, a need to guard against slave rebellions, a possibility of having to confront pirates or invading forces, and so on. But just as with gay marriage, they would be forced to accept that times have changed and I doubt that they would be sticking to their guns on the Second Amendment.

    Yeah, that’s great Einstein. Nobody else approves, either. What we also don’t approve of is any of your shitty “solutions,” which are all worse than the problem they’re supposed to address. Nobody’s gonna trust our shitty, corrupt, racist, creeping totalitarian, dishonest, genocidaire, lying sack of shit regime to do the right thing in an area so fraught with peril. So fuck off.

    Certainly they were thinking of group activities, and not in terms of arming lone gunmen.

    Bullshit. You’re illiterate. All groups are composed of lone men. There are no “collective rights” in the Constitution. They’re all individual rights.

    It is unfortunate that gun control is seen as a political issue rather than as a risk management and harm reduction issue in which each community is not able to make its own rules.

    Lots of things are unfortunate. Reality is what it is.

    There are about as many guns and rifles as people in the US, so this should be no more partisan than regulations about lawn mowers or motorbikes.

    How does one thing follow from the other, you twit?

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  48. Svigor says:

    They were thinking of the need for militias in a country where there was no police force, a need to guard against slave rebellions, a possibility of having to confront pirates or invading forces, and so on. But just as with gay marriage, they would be forced to accept that times have changed and I doubt that they would be sticking to their guns on the Second Amendment.

    They were smarter and more educated than you; if they’d meant “until we have proper police forces,” or “until there’s no more threat of slave rebellions,” or “until there’s no more threat of piracy or invading armies,” they would have put that into the Constitution.

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    The Second Amendment is a fascinating law. I wish I had time study its historical evolution.
    Its fascinating because it presents overtly a tension between the individual and the State.
    It speaks of a "well regulated militia"-- ie a militia is a tool of the state. But it immediately counterposes that to the security of a FREE state. So, the constitution clearly recognizes that freedom is an absolute qualification to any state. Implied is the right of citizens to resist (keep and bear arms) a state that infringes freedom. Of course, that's difficult, WHEN/HOW can we say a state is NOT free?
    Very relevant to the 21st C....
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  49. Realist says:
    @RodW
    Likening muskets to assault weapons is ahistorical. Muskets gradually evolved into long range rifles which were fixed with bayonets for assaults, i.e., fast, close-in combat.

    In WWII, the Russians and Germans developed a new category of weapon, the assault rifle, which wasn’t much use at long range but could shoot reasonably accurately at mid-range, and spray bullets lethally at short range, making bayonets largely obsolete.

    Today’s assault rifles have now become effective at long range too. But their heritage is not the musket. Their heritage is the WWII assault weapon.

    Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.

    Any semi automatic rifle can do what an “assault rifle” can do.

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  50. Decades and counting they can’t be bothered to learn that .223 is actually a low powered (“intermediate”) rifle caliber.

    I see dingbat articles like “You don’t need an AR-15, a .308 is enough power”.

    I’ll say. Not a fan of the AR-15 myself, I prefer AK, but I’d take an AR-10.

    My AK is 12 ga.

    These people are immune to reason.

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    True, that. I have a Ruger Ranch Rifle in .223, but my main battle rifle is an M1A. A 7.62x51 FMJ round turns cover into concealment and makes a Kevlar vest as protective as a T-shirt.
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  51. And FWIW (which is nothing because they are epistemically closed and immune to reason) an actual military style assault rifle must be full auto select fire to qualify as an assault rifle, a feature had by the original Sturmgewehr.

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  52. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    On March 6, 2017, Amazon.com delisted over 155 titles offering critical views of Holocaust history, after having carried all of the titles for periods ranging into decades in certain cases. See http://www.unz.com/article/books-banned-by-banned-books-week/

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  53. Svigor says:

    Any semi automatic rifle can do what an “assault rifle” can do.

    This is essentially true. All the “assault rifle” stuff that libtards get het up over is basically window dressing. They’re conveniences, and ultimately have little to do with lethality. Except for the kind of crap CA does with mags, that’s genuine crippleware.

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    At least we can say that the AWB prevented America from having people bayonet charge each other with imported bayonets in the late 20th century.
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  54. Svigor says:

    You could make the argument that in many cases, select fire reduces lethality, at least for deranged/untrained shooters, for whom spray and pray a la (((television))) is far more tempting. I haven’t taken surveys or anything, but the impression I get from vets is that they mostly used semi-auto in combat (on the other hand, slaughtering crowds of unarmed innocents isn’t really their bag, either).

    This is part of the reason I don’t care much about select-fire being (mostly) illegal for civilians, or about a potential bump-fire ban, despite the fact that I’m fairly rabid supporter of the 2nd; because I don’t feel the need for it. Yes, obviously we should “fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here,” but this is the boiler room, not Twitter.

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  55. @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I’ve never owned a gun, so I have no personal skin in the game. However, even the slightest amount of research into the 2nd Amendment makes clear that the Founding Fathers intention was to guarantee an armed citizenry for two main purposes:

    1. Because they never expected the U.S. to have a permanent standing army, the FF reasoned that state militias would be the first line of defense against any foreign invaders. An armed populace was necessary for these militia to exist.

    2. The FF was acutely aware that the Americans would never have won the war against the British if individual citizens didn’t have their own firearms. The FF were also acutely aware that any government – including your own government (especially your own government) – can attempt to take away the rights of individuals. They believed that the best check on tyranny was an armed citizenry.

    So not only does the 2nd Amendment not preclude citizens from purchasing military grade assualt rifles, it positively encourages it. The FF wanted a citizenry that would be extremely dangerous to the government and the military if the citizenry felt that its rights were being curtailed.

    And before you argue that individual citizens armed with only rifles couldn’t take on the U.S. military with its tanks, jets fighters and drones, I’d suggest that you look at what happened to the vaunted U.S. military in Vietnam against a bunch of guys with AK-47s and rocket launchers. Then, I’d suggest that you notice that the U.S. is losing to a bunch of really stupid gusy armed with only assault rifles and road-side bombs in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Now, I can understand the arguments against the 2nd Amendment as constituted, but it is what it is. If you want to change it, that’s fine, but you’ll need to change the Constitution to do so.

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    The founders also anticipated that the Indians would be defeated by well armed settlers militias. Which did happen east of the Mississippi.
    , @Sollipsist
    You're on to something. If we could enforce liberal gun control in Afghanistan, we might stand a chance. Waiting to take people's guns AFTER we've civilized them just seems counterproductive, not to mention kinda like adding insult to injury.
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  56. @Svigor

    Any semi automatic rifle can do what an “assault rifle” can do.
     
    This is essentially true. All the "assault rifle" stuff that libtards get het up over is basically window dressing. They're conveniences, and ultimately have little to do with lethality. Except for the kind of crap CA does with mags, that's genuine crippleware.

    At least we can say that the AWB prevented America from having people bayonet charge each other with imported bayonets in the late 20th century.

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  57. ChrisD says:
    @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    David Hogg is a paid actor who was brought in to Parkland to spin the anti-gun narrative. The false claims made by CNN and others that the guy is simply a ‘regular student’ have been debunked with evidence coming out that CNN coached him and gave him scripted lines, and the fact Hogg has a talent agent contracted.

    The fact Hogg and others claim there was a single lone ‘crazy’ shooter also doesn’t gel with earlier eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters in police armour and helmets.

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    The fact Hogg and others claim there was a single lone ‘crazy’ shooter also doesn’t gel with earlier eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters in police armour and helmets.
     
    Such an "item" makes only sense in case the event has been engineered with full intention of creating a conspiracy theory in the first place.

    Multiple shooters, only 17 dead? Must be imperial stormtroopers.
    , @Mr. Anon

    The fact Hogg and others claim there was a single lone ‘crazy’ shooter also doesn’t gel with earlier eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters in police armour and helmets.
     
    Which eyewitness accounts were those? I always see people saying that (multiple shooters), but never see any credible evidence that can't just be chalked up to the general poor quality of a lot of people's powers of observation. Can you offer actual evidence, or is just the usual conspiratard ranting?
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  58. @Svigor

    We—we on the Dissident Right—we thought we’d won a victory in 2016 with the election of Donald Trump. Sixty-three million Americans repudiated the Cultural Revolution: that was a great and wonderful thing.
     
    It's good when totalitarians turn up the heat.

    "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

    It's easy to hate the left when they have their boot on your neck.

    Exactly. The Left is doing exactly what we want them to do. I’m not saying all is well but things are playing out the way we want so far.

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  59. Alden says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    That article was basically two themes in one. On the latter point, the lethality of the race denialism, I agree. However, I will say that the fact that people get killed due to people's cowardice on thinking of bad thoughts and mouthing off in-PC doesn't seem to be a problem for people, so far. Who was the idiot PC multi-star Army General who told us after a number of people got killed and maimed at Ft. Hood, that this is OK, so long as diversity is not a victim? Those murders also had race denialism as a major contributing factor.

    Going backwards to your 1st point in the article, I personally think it's 5,000,000 members make the NRA an organization that is too big to push over like VDare (bless all of you, but it's a small operation). The NRA has economic might, via the members, and lots more who just don't get around to joining, to push back against big business.

    There was the yearly "shot-show", firearms and hunting exhibition/trade-show that became a feud a few years back between the NRA and the hosts/venue, as the latter sucked up to the politicians on some anti-gun rhetoric. The NRA found another host/venue for the show and never looked back. The NRA has not been as stalwart in defending the right to bear arms as the Gun Owners of America. However, being BIG can be a very good thing.

    Don't back down, NRA. We're behind you.

    I agree that the NRA is just too big and powerful for even the liberals to destroy.

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  60. CCZ says:

    Whatever else he is or may be, David Hogg is publicly documented as a Stoneman Douglas High School student.

    The September 30, 2015, (Florida) Sun Sentinel (Broward Edition), Page A14, has a color photograph of Stoneman Douglas High School student David Hogg participating in the Spanish River Cross Country Invitational Run. The link is below, although it may only read for subscribers of Newspapers.com (the newspaper archive):

    https://www.newspapers.com/image/265666409/?terms=%22Stoneman+Douglas%22+Hogg

    His parents are retired FBI agent (father) and either retired FBI agent or FBI employee (mother).  So parents with probably a good dose of previous media familiarly (and his father with media exposure for at least one newsworthy case, the arrest of a Nigerian (O. O Noibi) for illegal boarding of an international flight in Los Angeles, July 1, 2011).

    “Noibi was charged with being a stowaway aboard an aircraft, according to FBI Special Agent Kevin R. Hogg. He is being held at a Los Angeles Metropolitan Detention Center and is expected to be in court Friday.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/boarding-pass-arrest-nigerian-slipped-jfk-airport-security/story?id=13963831

    Cameron Kasky’s father and grandfather are both attorneys and the president and vice-president of an adoption agency (with a large internet presence) and Cameron’s father operates an internet television channel focused on autistic children and was once an employee of the William Morris Agency.  His profile mentions pre-lawyer employment as a “music and entertainment agent in New York City, including a stint in the prestigious William Morris Agency’s Agent Training Program.”  So a seemingly media savvy father with some Twitter posted anti-NRA opinions that pre-date the high school shooting.

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  61. Alden says:
    @Backwoods Bob
    Look how suspiciously fast the gun-grabbing agenda was so spectacularly rolled out, replete with baying sheep children and vicious personal attacks on the NRA spokesperson.

    Meanwhile, the Sheriff had been covering up for officers who failed to intervene on the scene until video surfaced proving same, and the incredible allowances granted the shooter - what, with 39 calls to the home, multiple reports to the FBI, the school, etc...

    The legacy media's response, in conjunction with big pharma whose drugs pulse through the veins of these school shooters is to censor. Shut up, hurry up and grab the guns before we learn even more about how they let this happen as they did in Fast and Furious.

    Our local school has had several lockdowns already this year with kids forced to cower in dark school rooms on the floor, peeing and pooping in the class garbage cans until the troopers give the "all clear". This is obviously training to be mass murder victims. Ours are learning MMA and firearms in homeschool. Our kids will fight and prevail. Their kids will be slaughtered. Hysteria won't stop an assailant. Training will.

    Thought you live in SE Asia?

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    I'm in SE Asia right now, you bet. Until April. My permanent home is in the states. So that is the school system I refer to.

    I am married to a beautiful 30-years younger Asian girl and I built a house here. We homeschool regardless of where we are. Two kids.

    Today the eight year old did an introductory course in airplane physics. The seven year old studied internal combustion engine mechanics. For the main school effort, we ask them what they want to study. Self directed learning.

    They each did math and a short story in their mom's language. Eight rounds of kickboxing.

    The retards at the government school at home are probably stupider at the end of school today than when they started.
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  62. Alden says:
    @RodW
    Likening muskets to assault weapons is ahistorical. Muskets gradually evolved into long range rifles which were fixed with bayonets for assaults, i.e., fast, close-in combat.

    In WWII, the Russians and Germans developed a new category of weapon, the assault rifle, which wasn’t much use at long range but could shoot reasonably accurately at mid-range, and spray bullets lethally at short range, making bayonets largely obsolete.

    Today’s assault rifles have now become effective at long range too. But their heritage is not the musket. Their heritage is the WWII assault weapon.

    Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.

    I thought the colonists used the Kentucky long rifle. It was developed in Pennsylvania by German gunsmiths working with the Anglo and scots Irish frontiersmen a couple decades before the revolution.

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  63. Alden says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.
     
    I've never owned a gun, so I have no personal skin in the game. However, even the slightest amount of research into the 2nd Amendment makes clear that the Founding Fathers intention was to guarantee an armed citizenry for two main purposes:

    1. Because they never expected the U.S. to have a permanent standing army, the FF reasoned that state militias would be the first line of defense against any foreign invaders. An armed populace was necessary for these militia to exist.

    2. The FF was acutely aware that the Americans would never have won the war against the British if individual citizens didn't have their own firearms. The FF were also acutely aware that any government - including your own government (especially your own government) - can attempt to take away the rights of individuals. They believed that the best check on tyranny was an armed citizenry.

    So not only does the 2nd Amendment not preclude citizens from purchasing military grade assualt rifles, it positively encourages it. The FF wanted a citizenry that would be extremely dangerous to the government and the military if the citizenry felt that its rights were being curtailed.

    And before you argue that individual citizens armed with only rifles couldn't take on the U.S. military with its tanks, jets fighters and drones, I'd suggest that you look at what happened to the vaunted U.S. military in Vietnam against a bunch of guys with AK-47s and rocket launchers. Then, I'd suggest that you notice that the U.S. is losing to a bunch of really stupid gusy armed with only assault rifles and road-side bombs in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Now, I can understand the arguments against the 2nd Amendment as constituted, but it is what it is. If you want to change it, that's fine, but you'll need to change the Constitution to do so.

    The founders also anticipated that the Indians would be defeated by well armed settlers militias. Which did happen east of the Mississippi.

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  65. @El Dato
    These posts are dumb though.

    Either

    1) there was a failure by the authorities and autist boy is the perp
    or
    2) it was staged and there were no dead people and autist boy is a cut-out
    or
    3) there were multiple shooters and dead people and autist boy is a cut-out

    They can't all be true at the same time.

    All my money is on 1)

    Because why stage an attack when you can have the real deal and you can Ruby the main person of interest like in a good X-Files episode.

    People proclaiming otherwise should be hunted down and explain themselves in court, where their views are sure to get all the attention they deserve.

    Because why stage an attack when you can have the real deal

    Your rhetorical question suggests that you haven’t really thought this through. The answer should be obvious.

    The answer is this: if something is staged, you completely control the narrative.

    A crisis actor says exactly what you want him or her to say, hitting all the desired talking points. A genuine survivor or witness might say all kinds of things that do not suit your agenda.

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  66. USA citizens can blame the NRA, but as far as I can see the USA has more weapons possesed by citizens than there are citizens.
    One can blame gun manufacturers for producing kid guns, but of course there are those who buy them.

    Try to find a gun shop in European countries.
    Just in areas where hunting is common guns are sold.
    Rules for having them in homes are strict, guns and ammo in different steel lockers, keys hidden.

    Long ago this was quite different, my grandfather hunted, his shotgun hung in the hall, the ammo was in a drawer next to his telephone.

    Alas, thanks to open borders, EU, kalashnikovs are for sale for € 150, smuggled in from former Yougoslavia.
    But I have no idea how to purchase one, should I want to do that.

    But at present, 16 year olds murder for a few thousand euro’s, in gang wars over drugs.
    The multicultural society.

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  67. How can one expect rational socio-political analyses from these females?

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  68. El Dato says:
    @eah
    People proclaiming otherwise should be hunted down

    I see.

    and explain themselves in court

    What would be the/a reasonable charge?

    What would be the/a reasonable charge?

    Being fucking asseholes sounds like a good charge.

    They are bringing noise to the table. Jaws have been broken for less.

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    A(nother) internet tough guy -- wants to 'hunt people down' and maybe even 'break the jaws' of those who say things he doesn't like.

    Jewish fears are really excessive.

    Your fear of people saying things is "really excessive"-- you must be a Jew.

    "LOL"
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  69. El Dato says:
    @ChrisD
    David Hogg is a paid actor who was brought in to Parkland to spin the anti-gun narrative. The false claims made by CNN and others that the guy is simply a 'regular student' have been debunked with evidence coming out that CNN coached him and gave him scripted lines, and the fact Hogg has a talent agent contracted.

    The fact Hogg and others claim there was a single lone 'crazy' shooter also doesn't gel with earlier eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters in police armour and helmets.

    The fact Hogg and others claim there was a single lone ‘crazy’ shooter also doesn’t gel with earlier eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters in police armour and helmets.

    Such an “item” makes only sense in case the event has been engineered with full intention of creating a conspiracy theory in the first place.

    Multiple shooters, only 17 dead? Must be imperial stormtroopers.

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  70. @El Dato
    Who is that David Hogg guy and why is Youtube cleaning up videos about him?

    Hogg is a crisis actor, apparently. One of the videos on youtube that was removed showed him flubbing his lines repeatedly and being coached by someone off-camera. There’s a pretty large section on him and others in this blog:

    https://birthofanewearthblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/24/florida-shooting-a-definite-false-flag/

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  71. @another fred
    The whole anti-gun thing reminds me of the Women's Temperance movement, which morphed into Prohibition.

    The ultimate result should be comparable.

    “The ultimate result should be comparable.”

    The ultimate result may well be civil war before any actual legislation or amendment is addressed by Congress.

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  72. @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    I applied the troll tag to you because the shill tag hasn’t been made available yet. It’s ok, though. You qualify for both.

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  73. @Randal
    The first half of your comment bore no relation to the article and seemed to be merely a direct response to El Dato's factual query, plus some editorialising on your part.

    It was of no relevance to the article and of little interest to me.

    So the direct answers to your two queries are "eh?" and "no".

    Randal, you may have also noticed that the first part of her little shill screed was also a pack of lies.

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    Maybe so. It's the kind of rabbit hole I've learned not to investigate, after many years of online political discussion.

    There was more than enough bullshit to go at in the part of her comment that I did address.
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  74. @Achmed E. Newman
    That article was basically two themes in one. On the latter point, the lethality of the race denialism, I agree. However, I will say that the fact that people get killed due to people's cowardice on thinking of bad thoughts and mouthing off in-PC doesn't seem to be a problem for people, so far. Who was the idiot PC multi-star Army General who told us after a number of people got killed and maimed at Ft. Hood, that this is OK, so long as diversity is not a victim? Those murders also had race denialism as a major contributing factor.

    Going backwards to your 1st point in the article, I personally think it's 5,000,000 members make the NRA an organization that is too big to push over like VDare (bless all of you, but it's a small operation). The NRA has economic might, via the members, and lots more who just don't get around to joining, to push back against big business.

    There was the yearly "shot-show", firearms and hunting exhibition/trade-show that became a feud a few years back between the NRA and the hosts/venue, as the latter sucked up to the politicians on some anti-gun rhetoric. The NRA found another host/venue for the show and never looked back. The NRA has not been as stalwart in defending the right to bear arms as the Gun Owners of America. However, being BIG can be a very good thing.

    Don't back down, NRA. We're behind you.

    Few will agree, but re: the NRA I think Derb’ is being just a little hysterical himself. (And yes I do agree that a kind of pissy hysteria has overtaken most of the Western world)
    However, the revoking of special Visa deals and rental discounts do NOT amount to “phase change” or a massive cultural rupture.
    The NRA is not an abstraction such as the meaning attached to a confederate flag.
    The NRA is a huge organization, with millions of members, 100′s of millions of $$ and huge political influence.
    What Mr Derbyshire refers to is analogous to a nip by a suger ant.

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  75. @Svigor

    The M4 is the modern musket
     
    And the AR-15 is the less-powerful civilian substitute, but it's good enough to be our modern musket, IMO.

    The AR15 is as powerful as the M4 (if you’d call the .223 powerful), but it is semi-auto only, while the M4 is select fire and will fire full auto, 3 round burst or semi-auto by flipping the selector to one of the settings.

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  76. @Lars Porsena
    Decades and counting they can't be bothered to learn that .223 is actually a low powered ("intermediate") rifle caliber.

    I see dingbat articles like "You don't need an AR-15, a .308 is enough power".

    I'll say. Not a fan of the AR-15 myself, I prefer AK, but I'd take an AR-10.

    My AK is 12 ga.

    These people are immune to reason.

    True, that. I have a Ruger Ranch Rifle in .223, but my main battle rifle is an M1A. A 7.62×51 FMJ round turns cover into concealment and makes a Kevlar vest as protective as a T-shirt.

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    The M1A also only takes five or so rounds at a time, loaded from a clip (a real "clip" not some misnomer applied to a "magazine") from above the open breech. Under the modern definition it is not an assault rifle. The later of which are loaded with an interchangeable magazine and has a full auto select switch.
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  77. @Anonym
    Pithy, accurate statements of truth.

    The liberal view is that the blank slate for dog applies. Breedism is a false ideology. It is how the dog is raised etc.

    The truth is its BOTH. Genetics AND environment play a part. Disentangling these two is the HARD.

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  78. TheBoom says:
    @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DW2R0F2XkAE89Wr.jpg

    but all of those statements were done out of compassion. Poor lad. He is just so compassionate he can’t help but want to kill those who don’t share his level of compassion.

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    Excellent!
    , @CCZ
    Teen Tantrums!! (Kasky is towards the end of the 1.5 minute video.)

    http://time.com/5164939/march-for-our-lives-florida-shooting/

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  79. TheBoom says:

    Since the US is becoming a matriarchy, it is no wonder that the acceptable response to any issue is a high strung female one as in “if you really love me you would boycott the NRA.”

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  80. utu says:
    @Anonymous

    Nikolas Cruz, middle name de Jesús
     
    His middle name is Jacob. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting

    His middle name is Jacob.

    You are not supposed to do it to John Derbyshire. de Jesus was the literary device to tie the shooting to his favorite topic of what he calls race realism on which he could write extensively while frankly he had nothing to say about the shooting and just deflected it by focusing on hysteria.

    And when it come to hysteria I wonder how John Derbyshire responded to 9/11 hysteria. Was he a voice of reason warning us against going to war in Afghanistan and later to Iraq?

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  81. @Svigor

    They were thinking of the need for militias in a country where there was no police force, a need to guard against slave rebellions, a possibility of having to confront pirates or invading forces, and so on. But just as with gay marriage, they would be forced to accept that times have changed and I doubt that they would be sticking to their guns on the Second Amendment.
     
    They were smarter and more educated than you; if they'd meant "until we have proper police forces," or "until there's no more threat of slave rebellions," or "until there's no more threat of piracy or invading armies," they would have put that into the Constitution.

    The Second Amendment is a fascinating law. I wish I had time study its historical evolution.
    Its fascinating because it presents overtly a tension between the individual and the State.
    It speaks of a “well regulated militia”– ie a militia is a tool of the state. But it immediately counterposes that to the security of a FREE state. So, the constitution clearly recognizes that freedom is an absolute qualification to any state. Implied is the right of citizens to resist (keep and bear arms) a state that infringes freedom. Of course, that’s difficult, WHEN/HOW can we say a state is NOT free?
    Very relevant to the 21st C….

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    THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS

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    R E P O R T

    OF THE

    SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE CONSTITUTION

    OF THE

    COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

    UNITED STATES SENATE

    NINETY-SEVENTH CONGRESS

    http://guncite.com/journals/senrpt/senrpt.html
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  82. If the Founders could see us today

    Would they counsel,”Put those guns away?

    You can rely on the sheriff

    Long as you don’t care if

    When facing danger,he’s apt to delay!”

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  83. mcohen says:

    Sacrificing children on the altar of a constitutional right makes me glad i now live in australia.wild west fantasy turned deadly.in south africa i carried a sig sauer p226 as the crime rate was out of control and whites were a target.
    When i went back there for a holiday i felt insecure as i had no weapon.no security blanket.
    I had to borrow my fathers .38 special just to settle down and not worry about not having a security blanket.
    Insecurity,fear of the unknown has been a centuries old driver of weapon systems going right back to the cave man.
    People who become insecure and paranoid buy a gun.a mental illness is born out of weapon attachment.they kill people and spread there mental illness.like cruz.it is contagious.fear and panic are contagious.the only way to stop it is to remove the weapons from there hands and give them smaller more manageable weapons like martial arts training,boxing,or even access to knives.
    Thats right……just change the weapons.remove semi automatic weapons and high capacity magazines from society.

    Come on mr trump
    You got the balls

    Just do it

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    Trust your instincts. If you perceive insecurity there must be a reason and you buy a defensive weapon. What is lost on you as it is on many gun control advocates is weapons in America aren't just for personal safety, hunting etc, it is a deterrent against a tyrannical government. Some would probably scoff at the idea of citizens taking on their government in the modern era but that is why the 2nd amendment was written. Not surprisingly, most of the establishment government types would love to remove that last barrier to total domination.

    " Sacrificing the children". At least we give them a chance at this life which is more than I can say for the pro-choicers.
    , @utu

    People who become insecure and paranoid buy a gun.a mental illness is born out of weapon attachment.they kill people and spread there mental illness.like cruz.it is contagious.fear and panic are contagious.the only way to stop it is to remove the weapons from there hands
     
    Yes it is a mental disease. The mentally sick will never see it that way. They will have to be disarmed. Perhaps when Chinese come with a humanitarian mission and take over?
    , @Twodees Partain
    I'm glad you're in Australia, too. Now, if I could only get you to butt out of our business...... I'll just add you to my ignore list. You've never said anything intelligent since you've been here anyway.
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  84. wayfarer says:

    devil’s breath (i.e. scopolamine) = a false flag’s best friend

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscine

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  85. I also say what a big deal, Mexican Nicolas Jesus Cruz shooting some other Mexicans.
    And he was not insane, he was only in rage of revenge. The reason was because he was expelled from school.
    And what kind of reporting this is that to this day we do not know why he was expelled.
    (But seriously I think this was false flag staged from beginning to the end.)

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  86. I’ve followed a link Derb gave on Kennedy. A fascinating read. All I can say that perhaps any nation is better off with horny & shallow presidents (JFK wasted so much energy on philandering I wonder how anything was left for politics or any other activity?) than with “visionaries” like Lenin, Hitler, Stalin & other rapists of history.

    Of course democracy puts strong constraints on any elected official. Just, a Machiavellian manipulator with a sense of mission is always a risk, even in the most stable democracy in the world.

    Other than that, Derb is completely right- leftist dogmatists are still running the circus of permanent cultural revolution. How long? No one can say. We don’t learn from history.

    Before 1789., most highest ranking French nobility & other ruling classes which comprised ca. 1-2% of France’s population had been devouring 65-70% of France’s budget. You had 98% of the people who had been living lives not worth living, many of them literally starving. This ~ 2% of exploiters were not dumb. Many 1st class European minds were among them (unlike US leftist cartoons). They knew something, something, something …was going to happen. They saw it brewing.

    Just- they did not try, seriously, to change the situation. I guess they hoped their good old days would last, forever. If great European intellects could have turned out to be hopelessly blind, what can you expect from mental & moral midgets who dominate American socio-cultural discourse?

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  87. @Alden
    Thought you live in SE Asia?

    I’m in SE Asia right now, you bet. Until April. My permanent home is in the states. So that is the school system I refer to.

    I am married to a beautiful 30-years younger Asian girl and I built a house here. We homeschool regardless of where we are. Two kids.

    Today the eight year old did an introductory course in airplane physics. The seven year old studied internal combustion engine mechanics. For the main school effort, we ask them what they want to study. Self directed learning.

    They each did math and a short story in their mom’s language. Eight rounds of kickboxing.

    The retards at the government school at home are probably stupider at the end of school today than when they started.

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  88. wayfarer says:

    In a closed society where everybody’s guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity.

    – Hunter S. Thompson

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  89. @Twodees Partain
    True, that. I have a Ruger Ranch Rifle in .223, but my main battle rifle is an M1A. A 7.62x51 FMJ round turns cover into concealment and makes a Kevlar vest as protective as a T-shirt.

    The M1A also only takes five or so rounds at a time, loaded from a clip (a real “clip” not some misnomer applied to a “magazine”) from above the open breech. Under the modern definition it is not an assault rifle. The later of which are loaded with an interchangeable magazine and has a full auto select switch.

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    The M1A also only takes five or so rounds at a time, loaded from a clip (a real “clip” not some misnomer applied to a “magazine”) from above the open breech. Under the modern definition it is not an assault rifle. The later of which are loaded with an interchangeable magazine and has a full auto select switch.
     
    Oh FFS. I’m so disappointed now in Unz.com - of all places I thought that intelligent life existed here.

    An M1A differs from an AR15 in that it fires a more powerful round (.308 vs .223). It is built with a 10 round magazine.

    http://www.springfield-armory.com/m1a-series/

    The M1A is a civilian knockoff of the M14 just like the original Colt AR-15 was a civilian knockoff of the M16. The AR15 design was sold by ArmaLite (a spin-off of Fairchild) to Colt and stands for ARmalite-15 (replacing AR-5, AR-7, & failed AR-10 designs). Neither the M1A nor the AR15 has an auto select switch. Functionally neither is any different at all from a standard .223 varmint rifle or a .308 deer rifle.

    Charitably, you may have meant the M1A1 which was a .30 carbine manufactured by General Motors, a military weapon designed specifically for Airborne use. It was a lighter version of the M1 Garand (version meaning completely different - ammo and barrel). The M1 Carbine had a detachable magazine with 15 round capacity and later 30 round mags were available. These are ALL antique rifles, owned by collectors, and most have been refurbished diminishing their value. If you intended to compare antiques to modern sporting rifles, well.. Keep in mind that many antique cannon still exist too, and in perfectly serviceable condition.

    This is ALL public domain info, not SCI clearance stuff. What excuse is there?
    , @Twodees Partain
    Not true, John. Mine is magazine fed and uses M14 20round magazines. You're referring to the M1 Garand which chambers the 30/06 round. The M1A is the semi-auto version of the M14.

    I referred to my M1A as my battle rifle, not an assault rifle.

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  90. Randal says:
    @Anonym
    Pithy, accurate statements of truth.

    The liberal view is that the blank slate for dog applies. Breedism is a false ideology. It is how the dog is raised etc.

    The liberal view is that the blank slate for dog applies. Breedism is a false ideology. It is how the dog is raised etc.

    Yes, but the only liberals who could sustain such a belief are those who either don’t own dogs or who do but have a fantastic capacity for suppressing observations of reality in favour of ideologically based “truth”.

    We have a couple of labradors, and friends who own a “cockerpoo” iirc. Our dogs have learned to, whenever we visit those friends, beeline for their dog’s food bowl, where there is invariably some food left waiting for the dog to feel hungry again (it’s not overweight, mind you). The concept of “leftover food” is not one that exists for labradors.

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  91. Randal says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Randal, you may have also noticed that the first part of her little shill screed was also a pack of lies.

    Maybe so. It’s the kind of rabbit hole I’ve learned not to investigate, after many years of online political discussion.

    There was more than enough bullshit to go at in the part of her comment that I did address.

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  92. @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    I can understand why a person would refuse to follow a site e.g. The New York Times and Salon, both of which refuse to post comments by persons who stray from the Halacha Laws as they conceive them, but you have not been censored here. You are free to–and did–say your piece and speak your mind. Why would you throw that away?

    Here, we tolerate and encourage free speech. Don’t give up that Right so easily. Standing your ground is not impermissible hereabouts. Whereas Trayvon struck down a brave man who stood his ground, you flee when none pursueth.

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  93. Hysterical reaction is magnified because the most emotional people on earth are women, blacks and gays who have a very large voice in media, special interests and general all around grievance. These people shouldn’t be allowed to vote much less run anything. Too flighty.

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  94. @TheBoom
    but all of those statements were done out of compassion. Poor lad. He is just so compassionate he can't help but want to kill those who don't share his level of compassion.

    Excellent!

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  95. @mcohen
    Sacrificing children on the altar of a constitutional right makes me glad i now live in australia.wild west fantasy turned deadly.in south africa i carried a sig sauer p226 as the crime rate was out of control and whites were a target.
    When i went back there for a holiday i felt insecure as i had no weapon.no security blanket.
    I had to borrow my fathers .38 special just to settle down and not worry about not having a security blanket.
    Insecurity,fear of the unknown has been a centuries old driver of weapon systems going right back to the cave man.
    People who become insecure and paranoid buy a gun.a mental illness is born out of weapon attachment.they kill people and spread there mental illness.like cruz.it is contagious.fear and panic are contagious.the only way to stop it is to remove the weapons from there hands and give them smaller more manageable weapons like martial arts training,boxing,or even access to knives.
    Thats right......just change the weapons.remove semi automatic weapons and high capacity magazines from society.

    Come on mr trump
    You got the balls

    Just do it

    Trust your instincts. If you perceive insecurity there must be a reason and you buy a defensive weapon. What is lost on you as it is on many gun control advocates is weapons in America aren’t just for personal safety, hunting etc, it is a deterrent against a tyrannical government. Some would probably scoff at the idea of citizens taking on their government in the modern era but that is why the 2nd amendment was written. Not surprisingly, most of the establishment government types would love to remove that last barrier to total domination.

    ” Sacrificing the children”. At least we give them a chance at this life which is more than I can say for the pro-choicers.

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    That is amusing,owning an ar 15 to take on the governmemt
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  96. RodW says:

    Single shot guns of whatever type have never been ‘assault weapons’ unless fixed with a bayonet, all claims to the contrary notwithstanding. Gas operated assault rifles, whether restricted to single shot or not, can hardly be claimed to have figured in the calculations of the Founders.

    Watching ‘Darb’, an Englishman like myself, posing as gun sympathizer, is rather comical. I at least like guns and have used all types except hand-cranked machine guns.

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    Single shot guns of whatever type have never been ‘assault weapons’
     
    Sell that stupidity elsewhere old boy. Millions of dead Americans can attest otherwise. We kicked you Queen worshippers asses with single shot guns. We killed 600,000 of our own with single shot guns. An “assault weapon” is a weapon used in commission of an assault - by definition.

    If I crack you over the head with a cricket bat, that cricket bat was my “assault weapon.” Or maybe it was my “liberty stick.” My “Prince Charles educator?”
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  97. KenH says:

    The anti-second amendment nuts know that amending the constitution such so that it rescinds an individual right to bear arms would never pass since that requires 75% of the states and 75% of the Congress to ratify such an amendment. So they’re resorting to a multifaceted strategy that includes raw hate and economic warfare against the NRA, shaming and guilt tripping gun owners, propaganda that holds that elected representatives and government officials have the right to decide what type of guns are available for public sale and left wing federal judges who’ll limit its scope or interpret it out of existence altogether.

    Since Jews have always been the most loudly antagonistic towards the second amendment it’s largely they who’ve crafted and concocted this “win at all costs” and “the end justifies the means” strategies. There is no line they won’t cross to achieve their political aims and that doubly applies for goyim control in the form of “common sense” gun laws.

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    Since Jews have always been the most loudly antagonistic towards the second amendment it’s largely they who’ve crafted and concocted this “win at all costs” and “the end justifies the means” strategies.
     
    Get past your Jew hating. The most fanatical 2A people I’ve met have been “never again” Jews.

    Replace “Jews” with “communists” or “puritans” (of the type foaming at the mouth about other people poisoning themselves with drugs/alcohol or other people doing anything of which they personally disapprove). You’ll rid the world of Jews only to discover you’ve not solved the problem.
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  98. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
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    Another example of this social phase change is gay marriage. Thirty years ago, virtually nobody - not even homosexuals - supported gay marriage. The "clamour" for it only started around 2000, and was widely opposed. Then, all of a sudden in 2015, the Supreme Court decided that it was implicit in the Constitution. The Founding Fathers not only would have been opposed to gay marriage, it was for them not even a category of thought - it was an idea that never even entered anybody's mind ever. If you had mentioned it to them, their reaction would have been stares of incomprehension, as if you had suddenly started foaming at the mouth and howling like a dog.

    The trans-revolution occured even quicker, within just one or two years.

    Neither gay marriage nor the trans revolution “OCCURRED.”

    Both social revolutions were organized by elite interests and their “Cultural Marxist” cat’s-paws in academia, Hollywood and the media for EXTRANEOUS reasons, along with the vigorous and Soros-financed campaigns to fully legalize marijuana and other psychotropic drugs.

    The aim is to undermine the structures of traditional society which remains the key force opposing an all-powerful government by a narrow and incestuous elite. NYT writers and their billionaire sponsors plan on being part of that elite, and on keeping you OUT. Can’t key the hoi polloi spoil the party.

    Those personally affected clearly have valid personal interests. In the case of gay marriage, these interests properly elicit a great deal of sympathy from traditional, decent Americans.

    Nothing could be further from the concerns of “Cultural Marxists” than these humane and decent considerations. Marxists have openly advocated USING homosexuals and other marginal groups as a means to gain POWER since at least the 1920s.

    The bizarre campaign to impose trans-sexual bathroom “rights” is entirely cynical. Americans have forgotten what every illiterate Indian peasant remembers from thousands of years of human experience: that public bathrooms separated by sex were introduced to protect women from the ever-present risk of RAPE.

    Countless books about India have documented this, e.g. “Mother India” written by a female U.S. physician in the 1920s.

    Modern Americans have succumbed to the fatal misapprehension that human nature was suddenly transformed into pure light and sunshine in the 1960s.

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    Neither gay marriage nor the trans revolution “OCCURRED.”
     
    I didn't mean to imply that they were spontaneous social movements that reflected majority sentiment. You are quite correct that they were conscious social engineering campaigns carried out by dedicated and well funded minorities. I just meant that the actual transition was surprisingly rapid.
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  99. What is lost on you as it is on many gun control advocates is weapons in America aren’t just for personal safety, hunting etc, it is a deterrent against a tyrannical government.

    Irrelevant, because it doesn’t work, never has, never will. Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed “militia” in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.

    About 30 British citizens were included in the Branch Davidian residents of whom 28 died.

    The 25th anniversary is tomorrow and provides an excellent opportunity for we the people to reflect on the futility of armed resistance to US government authority within the territory of the US.

    The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done.

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    Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed “militia” in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.
     
    Your false example of Waco was properly refuted by PeterAUS here and here, but you evidently weren't paying attention (or preferred to ignore reality when it interfered with advocacy of your desired policy).

    There are none so blind as those who will not see.
    , @Harold Smith
    "Irrelevant, because it doesn’t work, never has, never will."

    LOL! So according to you, because the U.S. government hasn't yet been overthrown or even seriously resisted by way of an armed revolt, the INTENT of the second amendment is somehow "irrelevant" to the construction of the second amendment in matters involving gun rights? What a ridiculous thing to say.

    "Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed 'militia' in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition."

    Nonsense.

    "The 25th anniversary is tomorrow and provides an excellent opportunity for we the people to reflect on the futility of armed resistance to US government authority within the territory of the US."

    ROTFL! If it's so "futile", then why the relentless and ever more daring push to disarm "the people"?

    "The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done."

    LOL!
    , @Mr. Anon

    Irrelevant, because it doesn’t work, never has, never will.
     
    Armed resistance to an ostensibly lawful government is the reason we have a country, so you are actually just wrong.

    The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done.
     
    Given that things are only getting worse on that score, the evidence indicates it can't. In which case, all the political freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution are irrelevant as well. Since speaking, politicking, and voting actually accomplish nothing, I suppose you would be cool if those rights were taken away too?

    And comparing the branch davidians - an armed doomsday cult - to an actual armed rebellion is ridiculous and a rather feeble argument.
    , @Sam J.
    "...Irrelevant, because it doesn’t work, never has, never will. Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed “militia” in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition..."

    Actually it did work. The fed's slowed down their assaults on various fringe groups after that.
    , @Simply Simon
    JM, you may have your detractors but I believe you are essentially correct. The combined assets of government forces including nationalized reserves would be able to quickly overwhelm even the most organized militia which would lack sophisticated weapons including attack helicopters , fighter aircraft, a multitude of short and long range artillery and mortars , heavy machine guns, yes even napalm. The government forces would have logistics and resupply capability the militia could only dream of. The only hope the American people could entertain would be if the uniformed services would rebel against their leaders. Having said all that I do not see government action of this type happening in America unless social and economic conditions come to such a boiling point that anarchy ensues. God help all of us then.
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  100. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
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    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. “The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week”. No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.
     
    Military rifles purchased at gun shows are exactly the kind of thing the second amendment was intended to protect. The american colonists in 1775 had assault weapons. They were called "muskets". That's what a musket was in the 18th century. And they didn't buy them from an FFL dealer.

    The real point of the Second Amendment is to help protect states from takeover by an overweaning government.

    More broadly, the Second Amendment is the bodyguard of all other individual rights, especially the First Amendment. Look at the UK and Europe and see the pitiful state of what they thought were their “rights” until the establishment decided to take them away in an accelerating take-over.

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  101. @Mr. Anon
    Another example of this social phase change is gay marriage. Thirty years ago, virtually nobody - not even homosexuals - supported gay marriage. The "clamour" for it only started around 2000, and was widely opposed. Then, all of a sudden in 2015, the Supreme Court decided that it was implicit in the Constitution. The Founding Fathers not only would have been opposed to gay marriage, it was for them not even a category of thought - it was an idea that never even entered anybody's mind ever. If you had mentioned it to them, their reaction would have been stares of incomprehension, as if you had suddenly started foaming at the mouth and howling like a dog.

    The trans-revolution occured even quicker, within just one or two years.

    Another example of this social phase change is gay marriage. Thirty years ago, virtually nobody – not even homosexuals – supported gay marriage. …

    The trans-revolution occured even quicker, within just one or two years.

    Consider that the communist’s “long march through the institutions” is now complete. One may obtain university diplomas for subjects shockingly devoid of any reality based learning, but rather essentially theological dogma. Admin (propaganda ministers) payroll significantly exceeds professorial payroll. And younger faculty are grads of theological education programs themselves.

    The internet enabled “alternative media” which challenges the dogma of the communists (sexes are equal but men are inherently bad, races are equal but whites are inherently bad, sexual perversion is good but male heterosexual and non-pedophilic perversions are bad, economic inequality is bad but white poverty is good, etc) core principle that bourgeoisie (white men) must be destroyed. Suddenly there was a voice for the bourgeoisie instantly accessible to everyone, everywhere, anytime where previously we had crappy underground newsletters. Now we began to offer a potentially significant resistance. Instead of pulling back to regroup and perhaps rethink their core theological dogmas, the communists – perhaps due to their youthful impatience and impetuousness (communism being more a child’s game of envy than a mature adult’s careful examination of reality) – they doubled down and became even more dogmatic and radical. Gay marriage and worse still gay adoption, redefining trannies from mental illness to the idea that sex isn’t biological at all, antifa mob violence, complete abandonment of facts and reason in anthropogenic “climate change,” the absolute right of unrestricted economic migration from failed States to successful States, these are all symptoms of this doubling down.

    The current rabid furor over the 2nd Amendment (banning semi-auto firearms like AR’s merely a pretext for banning all but perhaps black powder) is inextricably tied to the furor demanding trannies in the military ranks and abandonment of military standards and discipline. The communists can’t fulfill their destiny without removing white men from the combat ranks (where we are the overwhelming majority) and disarming lawful gun owners (again white men are overwhelming majority) no matter how strongly they hold academics, politics, and culture. They HAVE to disarm us so they can finish their theological mission. And after we elected Trump, they know they have to do this NOW or risk losing ground they’ve already won and perhaps, unthinkably, lose entirely (as the root is child’s envy they’ll never lose entirely).

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  102. @RodW
    Likening muskets to assault weapons is ahistorical. Muskets gradually evolved into long range rifles which were fixed with bayonets for assaults, i.e., fast, close-in combat.

    In WWII, the Russians and Germans developed a new category of weapon, the assault rifle, which wasn’t much use at long range but could shoot reasonably accurately at mid-range, and spray bullets lethally at short range, making bayonets largely obsolete.

    Today’s assault rifles have now become effective at long range too. But their heritage is not the musket. Their heritage is the WWII assault weapon.

    Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.

    “Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.”

    So what exactly was the “constitutional amendment” “calling for”?

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    “Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.”
     
    First, the AR isn’t an “assault rifle” but an Armalite Rifle. Second, an “assault rifle” is any rifle used in an assault. They target the AR because of it’s scary black plastic. Nickel plate the same gun and add pretty rosewood or maple burl replacing the black plastic and it’s nowhere near as scary despite being the exact same .223 varmint gun. It’s pure cosmetics but people are astoundingly gullible and stupid - even (especially?) the buyers of these things.

    Second, as you allude in your own reply to the stupidity above, when the 2nd Amendment was written it fully embraced “the right of the people” to own without infringement or regulation of any kind the most advanced military hardware on the planet. It does not say “guns” but “ARMS”. A modern equivalent would be owning our own F-22 Raptors, Predator Drones, Apache gunships, Hellfire missiles, etc. “But, but, but you could own a Nuke!” They’ll scream. Sure, if you could afford one and your neighbors didn’t kill your crazy ass first, I guess you could. The devil is in those “ifs”. The point however, of the 2nd, is that the Power resides in We The People and NOT in some Federal or State Government . WE granted the Government specific Powers and retained ultimate Power for ourselves and our Posterity.

    Now try getting an imbecile or communist (is there a difference?) to understand any of that. It’s pointless.

    , @RodW
    The 2nd Amendment calls for "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    Which doesn't necessarily preclude "assault rifles", since they hadn't been invented then, but which also doesn't include them, since they hadn't been invented then.

    A big LOL at those people who think "assault" in "assault rifle" means the same thing as "fighting" or "combat".

    Please note that I couldn't care less whether Americans get to keep their guns or not since it doesn't affect me. Also, I exercise my right to bear arms for self defense even if it involves breaking the law, and I'm currently exploring the possibility of becoming one of the very small band of people in Japan who legally own a gun. I simply make the case about assault rifles because I have a pedantic streak.
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  103. @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I always wonder when I read statements like these, is it just stupidity or is it malicious propaganda? Anyone with an ounce of reason can easily stumble to the facts and draw the obvious conclusions.

    Nearly every firearm sold is functionally a semi-automatic weapon and the vilified “assault rifle” is ridiculously underpowered relative to a 12ga semi-auto shotgun much less something like a Weatherby .460 or a .600/.700 Nitro. Further, the uber common Glock 17 is far deadlier for the average mental defective to possess due to its concealability versus any rifle. With its scary black plastic, the Glock will be the next AR despite little practical difference versus a pretty double action nickel plated .357 or .44 magnum with a speedloader.

    They attack the AR because it looks scary with all that menacing black plastic, but it’s really just a proxy for ultimately banning all guns isn’t it? Eventually they’ll come for the single action revolvers and black powder muzzle loaders won’t they? Then crossbows and compound bows and broadhead bolts/arrows. They want us disarmed, period.

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  104. Joe Hide says:

    Mr. Derbyshire,
    Good article.
    Also, I’m glad You, and hopefully others soon, are using terms like “Control Freaks”. This term could become the smear term of the day against control freaks that won’t debate with logic, reason, or facts. We need to just degrade their image with repeated different derogatory terms …plus logic, reason, and facts. My experience with them is that they then tend to mentally seize up and become even more obvious baffoons. Good luck in your writing!

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  105. Randal says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    What is lost on you as it is on many gun control advocates is weapons in America aren’t just for personal safety, hunting etc, it is a deterrent against a tyrannical government.
     
    Irrelevant, because it doesn't work, never has, never will. Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed "militia" in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.

    About 30 British citizens were included in the Branch Davidian residents of whom 28 died.

    The 25th anniversary is tomorrow and provides an excellent opportunity for we the people to reflect on the futility of armed resistance to US government authority within the territory of the US.

    The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done.

    Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed “militia” in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.

    Your false example of Waco was properly refuted by PeterAUS here and here, but you evidently weren’t paying attention (or preferred to ignore reality when it interfered with advocacy of your desired policy).

    There are none so blind as those who will not see.

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    Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed “militia” in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.
     
    And isn’t that EXACTLY what the Founders envisioned and INTENDED? Provided the Waco Whackos were infringing upon nobody else’s rights, it was their RIGHT to defend themselves against a tyrannical government!

    The Founders were advocates, fierce advocates, of MYOFB (mind your own fcuking business). “Liberty” by definition means MYOFB.
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  106. @Harold Smith
    "Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for."

    So what exactly was the "constitutional amendment" "calling for"?

    “Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.”

    First, the AR isn’t an “assault rifle” but an Armalite Rifle. Second, an “assault rifle” is any rifle used in an assault. They target the AR because of it’s scary black plastic. Nickel plate the same gun and add pretty rosewood or maple burl replacing the black plastic and it’s nowhere near as scary despite being the exact same .223 varmint gun. It’s pure cosmetics but people are astoundingly gullible and stupid – even (especially?) the buyers of these things.

    Second, as you allude in your own reply to the stupidity above, when the 2nd Amendment was written it fully embraced “the right of the people” to own without infringement or regulation of any kind the most advanced military hardware on the planet. It does not say “guns” but “ARMS”. A modern equivalent would be owning our own F-22 Raptors, Predator Drones, Apache gunships, Hellfire missiles, etc. “But, but, but you could own a Nuke!” They’ll scream. Sure, if you could afford one and your neighbors didn’t kill your crazy ass first, I guess you could. The devil is in those “ifs”. The point however, of the 2nd, is that the Power resides in We The People and NOT in some Federal or State Government . WE granted the Government specific Powers and retained ultimate Power for ourselves and our Posterity.

    Now try getting an imbecile or communist (is there a difference?) to understand any of that. It’s pointless.

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    Yes of course I agree; moreover, it seems to me there are a very, very large (proportionately) number of imbeciles in the ranks of the kkk (kosher kommunist klowns) and their bed-wetting fellow travelers.

    Anyway, the obfuscatory semantical "AR" strawman having been firmly dealt with, I still await RodW's explanation as to what kind of "arms" the second amendment refers to.

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  107. Is the “official story” falling apart already? Perhaps it is supposed to fall apart?

    Supposedly teacher “Stacy Lippel” described “the” shooter thusly: “he’s in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I’ve never seen before.”

    So he had the rifle (an AR-15 that Lippel’s never seen before?), ammo and all that gear in some kind of a duffel bag?

    According to NBC (apparently referring to something the jew sheriff said, but without quotation marks):

    “Within barely two minutes of being dropped off, Cruz started firing into four classrooms in Building 12, returning to two of them to shoot again, Israel said.

    Cruz then went upstairs to the second floor, where he shot one of his victims, before proceeding to the third floor, where he ditched his rifle and backpack, Israel said.

    He then ran down the stairs and outside, where he blended in with hundreds of terrified students — many of them his former classmates — and eluded officers as he left campus, Israel said.

    Amid the chaos he’d left behind at the school, Cruz made his way to a Walmart store, bought a drink at its Subway restaurant and walked away again, Israel said.”

    Then the NBC article goes on to state: “Contrary to some media reports that Cruz may have been wearing a gas mask or some sort of tactical or bulletproof vest, Israel said he didn’t believe that was true.” (Again apparently referring to something the jew sheriff said, but no quotation marks).

    This is reminiscent of the Sandy Hook hoax where misleading and contradictory information was disseminated, apparently as a calculated part of the psyop.

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    Yo, Mister Harold... I really like it that you're the first guy I've seen on the Innerwebs who actually figured out that that Hillary clone Broward Flying Monkey Army sheriff named Israel is actually a ZOG Joooo! Keep up those great and eye-opening exposés.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Supposedly teacher “Stacy Lippel” described “the” shooter thusly: “he’s in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I’ve never seen before.”
     
    Is there any reason to believe that a high-school teacher in Broward County named "Stacy" would actually know what actual military garb looks like? Or that she got a really good, careful look at somebody who was shooting a rifle in her building?
    , @Harold Smith
    I wonder: Why didn't Cruz kill himself? Isn't that how these kind of things are supposed to end?

    And for that matter how did he determine when it was time to stop shooting? A serious mass-murderer in that kind of situation would be carrying hundreds of rounds of ammo, wouldn't he? If he wasn't confronted by any cops, and he still had ammo, and there were still targets in the area, then why would he stop at some arbitrary point? Because he's a "nut case"? Because he was thirsty and wanted a soda from Subway?

    And why ditch the rifle (which presumably had a serial number that could be quickly traced back to him)? Because he's a "nut case"?

    Does any of this make sense? Is it all covered under the aegis of the "nut case" label?
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  108. @Randal

    Hysterics under the guidance of ideologues
     


    I’m a race realist; I think the different races have evolved overall differences in personality and behavior via natural selection, just as dog breeds have via artificial selection;
     
    Pithy, accurate statements of truth.

    Pithy, accurate statements of truth.

    Indeed. Although I prefer my own: Them, “All humans are same species, Homo sapiens sapiens.” Me: “All dogs are Canis lupus familiaris, therefore a chihuahua is exactly the same as my Mastiff.” Followed by, “Shut the fcuk up, you’re too stupid to make noise with your mouth.”

    Then again, I’m a 250lb fit male with a “history of violence” as they say. Use the second quote based on your own unique size and character.

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  109. Tick Tock says:

    Time to ban this Self Anointed Clown Prince Author from this site. Really, He has become so boorish that it make my stomach churn. While I understand there is freedom of the press there also is a right to readers to have actual factual discourse not some insane rant about Race Race Race. I do agree it is interesting and noteworthy to see just how limited Johnny is because it does defy even Darwin’s theory on selection, but nothing here is natural. This kind of drivel has to have been genetically produced by multiple generations of planned breeding for the lowest intellect possible. Just plain nasty and spiteful. Not much else.

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  110. @Randal

    Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed “militia” in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.
     
    Your false example of Waco was properly refuted by PeterAUS here and here, but you evidently weren't paying attention (or preferred to ignore reality when it interfered with advocacy of your desired policy).

    There are none so blind as those who will not see.

    Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed “militia” in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.

    And isn’t that EXACTLY what the Founders envisioned and INTENDED? Provided the Waco Whackos were infringing upon nobody else’s rights, it was their RIGHT to defend themselves against a tyrannical government!

    The Founders were advocates, fierce advocates, of MYOFB (mind your own fcuking business). “Liberty” by definition means MYOFB.

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  111. @Jonathan Mason

    What is lost on you as it is on many gun control advocates is weapons in America aren’t just for personal safety, hunting etc, it is a deterrent against a tyrannical government.
     
    Irrelevant, because it doesn't work, never has, never will. Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed "militia" in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.

    About 30 British citizens were included in the Branch Davidian residents of whom 28 died.

    The 25th anniversary is tomorrow and provides an excellent opportunity for we the people to reflect on the futility of armed resistance to US government authority within the territory of the US.

    The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done.

    “Irrelevant, because it doesn’t work, never has, never will.”

    LOL! So according to you, because the U.S. government hasn’t yet been overthrown or even seriously resisted by way of an armed revolt, the INTENT of the second amendment is somehow “irrelevant” to the construction of the second amendment in matters involving gun rights? What a ridiculous thing to say.

    “Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed ‘militia’ in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.”

    Nonsense.

    “The 25th anniversary is tomorrow and provides an excellent opportunity for we the people to reflect on the futility of armed resistance to US government authority within the territory of the US.”

    ROTFL! If it’s so “futile”, then why the relentless and ever more daring push to disarm “the people”?

    “The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done.”

    LOL!

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    ROTFL! If it’s so “futile”, then why the relentless and ever more daring push to disarm “the people”?
     
    Because people who want sensible restrictions on dangerous weapons do not perceive gun ownership as anything to do with a revolutionary force in-waiting that is there to overthrow the government of the United States and perceive anyone who thinks that way is as cuckoo as Timothy McVeigh who thought he was firing the shot that would start a revolution.

    After all there are an estimated 300 million guns in the US, and since children are not supposed to have guns, that is actually more than one per adult person. With guns being such a pervasive item of household equipment, there is no reason for matters concerning the safety of guns to be any more politically partisan than safety standards for toasters or vacuum cleaners, because people of all political persuasions own them and future revolutionaries are only a tiny percentage of gun owners.

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  112. @KenH
    The anti-second amendment nuts know that amending the constitution such so that it rescinds an individual right to bear arms would never pass since that requires 75% of the states and 75% of the Congress to ratify such an amendment. So they're resorting to a multifaceted strategy that includes raw hate and economic warfare against the NRA, shaming and guilt tripping gun owners, propaganda that holds that elected representatives and government officials have the right to decide what type of guns are available for public sale and left wing federal judges who'll limit its scope or interpret it out of existence altogether.

    Since Jews have always been the most loudly antagonistic towards the second amendment it's largely they who've crafted and concocted this "win at all costs" and "the end justifies the means" strategies. There is no line they won't cross to achieve their political aims and that doubly applies for goyim control in the form of "common sense" gun laws.

    Since Jews have always been the most loudly antagonistic towards the second amendment it’s largely they who’ve crafted and concocted this “win at all costs” and “the end justifies the means” strategies.

    Get past your Jew hating. The most fanatical 2A people I’ve met have been “never again” Jews.

    Replace “Jews” with “communists” or “puritans” (of the type foaming at the mouth about other people poisoning themselves with drugs/alcohol or other people doing anything of which they personally disapprove). You’ll rid the world of Jews only to discover you’ve not solved the problem.

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    You’ll rid the world of Jews only to discover you’ve not solved the problem.
     
    worth the risk.
    , @Alden
    You are right about the puritans and communists who want to dictate to everyone else. Buy it seems to me that Jews always jump on the latest Puritan cause.

    For instance gay marriage. Jews just followed along with first legalize homosexuality, then glorify it then legalize gay marriage then encourage trans sexuals. I be noticed this all my life.

    Pro Castro, anti Pinochet, pro gay, hysterical defense of black criminals, the majority of attorneys in the school desegregation and affirmative action lawsuits, anti Christianity, Jews seem to be linked to some propaganda central that tells them how to think and what causes to back.

    Right now they lead the Puritan communist causes. They haven’t always. Prohibition was led by Protestant women and clergy. But for the last 70 Year’s or so, it’s jews who lead the dangerous causes. And one can’t help but notice.
    , @KenH

    Get past your Jew hating. The most fanatical 2A people I’ve met have been “never again” Jews.
     
    It's called facts, Stanley. Just because you know a handful of Jews who support the second amendment doesn't change this reality. All 10-11 Jewish senators are anti-second amendment as is virtually every Jew serving in the House.

    Replace “Jews” with “communists” or “puritans”
     
    Jews invented communism and are actively involved in American communism and other far left wing movements. Without their money, leadership and friendly media coverage most would collapse almost overnight.
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  113. @RodW
    Single shot guns of whatever type have never been ‘assault weapons’ unless fixed with a bayonet, all claims to the contrary notwithstanding. Gas operated assault rifles, whether restricted to single shot or not, can hardly be claimed to have figured in the calculations of the Founders.

    Watching ‘Darb’, an Englishman like myself, posing as gun sympathizer, is rather comical. I at least like guns and have used all types except hand-cranked machine guns.

    Single shot guns of whatever type have never been ‘assault weapons’

    Sell that stupidity elsewhere old boy. Millions of dead Americans can attest otherwise. We kicked you Queen worshippers asses with single shot guns. We killed 600,000 of our own with single shot guns. An “assault weapon” is a weapon used in commission of an assault – by definition.

    If I crack you over the head with a cricket bat, that cricket bat was my “assault weapon.” Or maybe it was my “liberty stick.” My “Prince Charles educator?”

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  114. One of the first corporations to jump onto the anti-NRA jihad bandwagon was the First National Bank of Omaha (FNBO), which is the parent company of my friendly community bank in DeKalb IL. Of the seven states in which FNBO or its subsidiaries operate —Nebraska, Colorado, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, South Dakota and Texas— five went for Trump in the 2016 presidential election. Seems like they may have set themselves up for a nasty consumer boycott from here in the heartland. If you are a client/customer of an FNBO affiliate, I strongly encourage you to send a note explaining your likely future banking options to Mr. K. Langin : the FNBO PR flack handling what really should be a major sh*tstorm. You can tell him I sent you. Next up, I’ll see how far I get talking to United Airlines’s PR flacks at their Chicago HQ.

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  115. anarchyst says:

    The problem is, we have allowed the anti Second Amendment crowd to define the terms.
    A firearm is a tool which possesses no evil intent on its own. Assigning intent to an inanimate object is the epitome of insanity. Demonizing a weapon on “looks alone” also marks the accuser as an unstable individual who is also insane. Call them out on their illogic and insanity.
    Another dirty tactic the anti-Second Amendment crowd uses exposes children to potential and actual harm by putting them in “gun-free zones”. These people care not one wit about children, but uses them for their own nefarious purposes.
    We need to TAKE BACK the argument…
    When the antis blame the firearm for the actions of a criminal, state that: “a firearm is an inanimate object, subject only to the intent of the user. Firearms ARE used to preserve life and make a 90 lb. woman equal to a 200 lb. criminal”.
    When the antis attempt to justify their “gun free zones” counter their misguided argument with “you mean, criminal safety zones” or “victim disarmament zones”.
    State that “we protect our money, banks, politicians and celebrities, buildings and facilities with PEOPLE WITH GUNS, but protect our children with “gun-free zone” signs”.
    When the antis criticize AR-15s in general, counter with: “you mean the most popular rifle of the day, use able by even the smallest, weakest person as a means of self-defense. Besides, AR-15s are FUN to shoot”. Offer to take them to the range and supply them with an AR-15, ammunition and range time. I have made many converts this way.
    When the antis state that: “You don’t need an AR-15 to hunt with”, counter with “AR-15s ARE used for hunting, but in many states, are prohibited from being used to take large game because they are underpowered”.
    When the antis state that: “AR-15s are high powered rifles”, correct them by stating that “AR-15s with the .223 or 5.56mm cartridge are considered medium-powered weapons–NOT “high-powered” by any means”.
    When the antis state that: “you don’e need and AR-15”, counter with, “Who are YOU to consider what I need?”When the antis state that: “the Constitution was written during the time of muskets, and that the Second Amendment should only apply to “weapons of that time period”, state that: “by your logic, the First Amendment should not apply to modern-day telecommunications, internet, television, radio, public-address systems, books and newspapers produced on high-speed offset printing presses. Only “town-criers” and Benjamin Franklin type printing presses would be covered under the First Amendment”.
    When the antis state that “only law enforcement and government should possess firearms”, remind them of the latest school shooting, as well as Columbine, where “law enforcement” SAT ON THEIR HANDS while children were being murdered, citing “officer safety”, afraid to challenge the shooter, despite being armed to the hilt. The government-run murderous sieges at Ruby Ridge and Waco are also good examples of government (mis)use of firearms.
    This tome can be used to counter any argument against any infringement of our Second Amendment.

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    Besides, AR-15s are FUN to shoot”.

    Yes, but they sure aren't fun to listen to. I find the high pitched crack unpleasant, even with foam earplugs and ear muffs. I'll keep the SKS.
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  116. @Harold Smith
    Is the "official story" falling apart already? Perhaps it is supposed to fall apart?

    Supposedly teacher "Stacy Lippel" described "the" shooter thusly: "he’s in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I’ve never seen before."

    So he had the rifle (an AR-15 that Lippel's never seen before?), ammo and all that gear in some kind of a duffel bag?

    According to NBC (apparently referring to something the jew sheriff said, but without quotation marks):

    "Within barely two minutes of being dropped off, Cruz started firing into four classrooms in Building 12, returning to two of them to shoot again, Israel said.

    Cruz then went upstairs to the second floor, where he shot one of his victims, before proceeding to the third floor, where he ditched his rifle and backpack, Israel said.

    He then ran down the stairs and outside, where he blended in with hundreds of terrified students — many of them his former classmates — and eluded officers as he left campus, Israel said.

    Amid the chaos he'd left behind at the school, Cruz made his way to a Walmart store, bought a drink at its Subway restaurant and walked away again, Israel said."

    Then the NBC article goes on to state: "Contrary to some media reports that Cruz may have been wearing a gas mask or some sort of tactical or bulletproof vest, Israel said he didn't believe that was true." (Again apparently referring to something the jew sheriff said, but no quotation marks).

    This is reminiscent of the Sandy Hook hoax where misleading and contradictory information was disseminated, apparently as a calculated part of the psyop.

    Yo, Mister Harold… I really like it that you’re the first guy I’ve seen on the Innerwebs who actually figured out that that Hillary clone Broward Flying Monkey Army sheriff named Israel is actually a ZOG Joooo! Keep up those great and eye-opening exposés.

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  117. @Stan d Mute

    “Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.”
     
    First, the AR isn’t an “assault rifle” but an Armalite Rifle. Second, an “assault rifle” is any rifle used in an assault. They target the AR because of it’s scary black plastic. Nickel plate the same gun and add pretty rosewood or maple burl replacing the black plastic and it’s nowhere near as scary despite being the exact same .223 varmint gun. It’s pure cosmetics but people are astoundingly gullible and stupid - even (especially?) the buyers of these things.

    Second, as you allude in your own reply to the stupidity above, when the 2nd Amendment was written it fully embraced “the right of the people” to own without infringement or regulation of any kind the most advanced military hardware on the planet. It does not say “guns” but “ARMS”. A modern equivalent would be owning our own F-22 Raptors, Predator Drones, Apache gunships, Hellfire missiles, etc. “But, but, but you could own a Nuke!” They’ll scream. Sure, if you could afford one and your neighbors didn’t kill your crazy ass first, I guess you could. The devil is in those “ifs”. The point however, of the 2nd, is that the Power resides in We The People and NOT in some Federal or State Government . WE granted the Government specific Powers and retained ultimate Power for ourselves and our Posterity.

    Now try getting an imbecile or communist (is there a difference?) to understand any of that. It’s pointless.

    Yes of course I agree; moreover, it seems to me there are a very, very large (proportionately) number of imbeciles in the ranks of the kkk (kosher kommunist klowns) and their bed-wetting fellow travelers.

    Anyway, the obfuscatory semantical “AR” strawman having been firmly dealt with, I still await RodW’s explanation as to what kind of “arms” the second amendment refers to.

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    Maybe we need a new (our original) “Citizenship Test”? You wanna be an American?

    Go fight the pathetic British Army. Freedom is paid for in blood. Americans know this, we paid. And now the pansies who still worship a Queen and her Princeling along with the pathetic colonies who never bought their Freedom want to lecture us? We didn’t listen to your crap then and we aren’t listening now. The only reason you’re not speaking to us in German or Japanese is that WE SAVED YOUR ASSES. With OUR guns and OUR blood. Piss off you pathetic cowards!
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  118. anarchyst says:
    @Harold Smith
    "If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded ‘crisis actors’ in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff’s deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence."

    Of course Hogg is "acting"; otherwise, he wouldn't be making excuses for the cops that had a duty to intervene but failed for some reason.

    Not true…
    Hogg graduated two years ago from a school in California. He is a crisis actor receiving his “15 minutes of fame”..

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    I was quoting "Demi" and disagreeing. Hogg is obviously an "actor".
    , @Mr. Anon

    Hogg graduated two years ago from a school in California. He is a crisis actor receiving his “15 minutes of fame”..
     
    No, he was enrolled at a school in California. That isn't the same as graduating. People move. It's perfectly possible for somebody to be enrolled at a high-school in California two years ago, and still be a senior in a Florida high-school today. Do you have proof of your contention?
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  119. Did you read Paul Craig Roberts article on subject? (in his box below)
    I am hesitant in these matters to form a serious opinion.
    I only think that the article is a blast.

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  120. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Nikolas Cruz, middle name de Jesús
     
    His middle name is Jacob. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting

    his birth mother was, apparently, Jewish,

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Florida-shooter-expressed-hate-for-Jews-via-private-chat-542895
    “In one tirade against his biological mother, Cruz said: “My real mom was a Jew. I am glad I never met her,” according to CNN.”

    and his biological brother is, apparently, Black/brown

    https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/photo-shows-accused-florida-gunman-his-brother-holding-moms-ashes/

    Cruz’s foster parents moved from Long Island (code for ‘Jewish’) to Florida

    The first attorney who spoke for Cruz was Jewish

    Suspected school shooter will plead guilty if death penalty is off the table

    https://www.cbsnews.com/…/nikolas-cruz-suspected-school-shooter-plead-guilty-death…

    Feb 17, 2018 – PARKLAND, Fla. — The gunman accused of killing 17 people inside a Florida high school will plead guilty if prosecutors take the death penalty off the table, Broward County Public Defender Howard Finkelstein confirmed Saturday. Finkelstein is representing Nikolas Cruz, who is being held without bail

    Broward County is home to one of Florida’s largest Jewish populations; it’s also home to Jewish organization CFNS, https://cfns.us/leadership-team/ , whose leadership team/advisors includes ideologues such as Walid Phares and Daniel Pipes.
    CFNS is funded by Aubrey Chernick, who also funds CAMERA, the organization dedicated to censoring free speech.

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    The article indicate's Cruz's mother was a drug addict, had a child with at least one black man, and another with a Hispanic. The shooter's brother has also been committed to a mental institution.

    What a mess. A nasty, privileged, self-indulgent, narcissistic Jewish woman who was allowed to go off the rails ended up sleeping around and gaving birth to two trainwrecks, then dumped them on someone else to raise. Now the boys have become a nuisance to society.

    Drug-addicted mothers should be forcibly incarcerated with their children in a supervised setting and made to do productive work while staying clean. It's the only way to handle them while raising their children with some sort of standards.
    , @Quartermaster
    Neither Walid Phares or Daniel Pipes are ideologues.
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  121. @anarchyst
    Not true...
    Hogg graduated two years ago from a school in California. He is a crisis actor receiving his "15 minutes of fame"..

    I was quoting “Demi” and disagreeing. Hogg is obviously an “actor”.

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  122. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Since Jews have always been the most loudly antagonistic towards the second amendment it’s largely they who’ve crafted and concocted this “win at all costs” and “the end justifies the means” strategies.
     
    Get past your Jew hating. The most fanatical 2A people I’ve met have been “never again” Jews.

    Replace “Jews” with “communists” or “puritans” (of the type foaming at the mouth about other people poisoning themselves with drugs/alcohol or other people doing anything of which they personally disapprove). You’ll rid the world of Jews only to discover you’ve not solved the problem.

    You’ll rid the world of Jews only to discover you’ve not solved the problem.

    worth the risk.

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    Nah, the Jews are suicidal anyway. As I noted in another thread here at Unz, putting half your genome on the most hotly contested land on the planet, where 4.5 Billion people are certain the apocalypse will begin, is extinction level stupidity. Creating and embracing an ideology of envy (Marxism/Communism) when your tribe inspires envy is extinction level stupidity. Moving into another man’s home (nation) then displaying profound arrogance and disrespect is extinction level stupidity.

    Just as our legal system prefers to let a guilty man go free than punish an innocent man, I’m happy to let the suicidal Jew solve our problem for us and protect the many righteous Jews like Ron Unz, Nicholas Stix, et al.

    20,000,000 Jews, at least half suicidally stupid, are NOT our greatest problem. Read Raspail. Look at Europe or Detroit. 6,000,000,000 Bantus swarming over us like maggots on a dead carcass are OUR extinction level stupidity. Disarming ourselves and leaving our fate at the hands of a communist run State is OUR extinction level stupidity. Force our feeble minded women to understand how precarious the survival of our children and that they already make 99% of our decisions for us - let US protect our families and children. That is Job 1.
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  123. @John Henry
    The M1A also only takes five or so rounds at a time, loaded from a clip (a real "clip" not some misnomer applied to a "magazine") from above the open breech. Under the modern definition it is not an assault rifle. The later of which are loaded with an interchangeable magazine and has a full auto select switch.

    The M1A also only takes five or so rounds at a time, loaded from a clip (a real “clip” not some misnomer applied to a “magazine”) from above the open breech. Under the modern definition it is not an assault rifle. The later of which are loaded with an interchangeable magazine and has a full auto select switch.

    Oh FFS. I’m so disappointed now in Unz.com – of all places I thought that intelligent life existed here.

    An M1A differs from an AR15 in that it fires a more powerful round (.308 vs .223). It is built with a 10 round magazine.

    http://www.springfield-armory.com/m1a-series/

    The M1A is a civilian knockoff of the M14 just like the original Colt AR-15 was a civilian knockoff of the M16. The AR15 design was sold by ArmaLite (a spin-off of Fairchild) to Colt and stands for ARmalite-15 (replacing AR-5, AR-7, & failed AR-10 designs). Neither the M1A nor the AR15 has an auto select switch. Functionally neither is any different at all from a standard .223 varmint rifle or a .308 deer rifle.

    Charitably, you may have meant the M1A1 which was a .30 carbine manufactured by General Motors, a military weapon designed specifically for Airborne use. It was a lighter version of the M1 Garand (version meaning completely different – ammo and barrel). The M1 Carbine had a detachable magazine with 15 round capacity and later 30 round mags were available. These are ALL antique rifles, owned by collectors, and most have been refurbished diminishing their value. If you intended to compare antiques to modern sporting rifles, well.. Keep in mind that many antique cannon still exist too, and in perfectly serviceable condition.

    This is ALL public domain info, not SCI clearance stuff. What excuse is there?

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    You know Stan, you could have just said "I think you confused the M1A with the M1 Garand." But no, you had to show off like some arrogant POS. Gosh! How superior you are... In your own mind.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "Functionally neither is any different at all from a standard .223 varmint rifle or a .308 deer rifle. "

    Not quite correct. Both rifles are made for combat by being easily disassembled for cleaning or repair in the field and are much more durable than semi-auto hunting rifles. That is what makes them battle rifles instead of hunting rifles.

    Anyway, most varminters and deer hunters use bolt action rifles for long range sport. The M1A doesn't function as well with .308 hunting loads and is much more reliable when fed FMJ 7.62 NATO military spec. ammunition.

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  124. Alden says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Another example of this social phase change is gay marriage. Thirty years ago, virtually nobody – not even homosexuals – supported gay marriage. ...

    The trans-revolution occured even quicker, within just one or two years.
     
    Consider that the communist’s “long march through the institutions” is now complete. One may obtain university diplomas for subjects shockingly devoid of any reality based learning, but rather essentially theological dogma. Admin (propaganda ministers) payroll significantly exceeds professorial payroll. And younger faculty are grads of theological education programs themselves.

    The internet enabled “alternative media” which challenges the dogma of the communists (sexes are equal but men are inherently bad, races are equal but whites are inherently bad, sexual perversion is good but male heterosexual and non-pedophilic perversions are bad, economic inequality is bad but white poverty is good, etc) core principle that bourgeoisie (white men) must be destroyed. Suddenly there was a voice for the bourgeoisie instantly accessible to everyone, everywhere, anytime where previously we had crappy underground newsletters. Now we began to offer a potentially significant resistance. Instead of pulling back to regroup and perhaps rethink their core theological dogmas, the communists - perhaps due to their youthful impatience and impetuousness (communism being more a child’s game of envy than a mature adult’s careful examination of reality) - they doubled down and became even more dogmatic and radical. Gay marriage and worse still gay adoption, redefining trannies from mental illness to the idea that sex isn’t biological at all, antifa mob violence, complete abandonment of facts and reason in anthropogenic “climate change,” the absolute right of unrestricted economic migration from failed States to successful States, these are all symptoms of this doubling down.

    The current rabid furor over the 2nd Amendment (banning semi-auto firearms like AR’s merely a pretext for banning all but perhaps black powder) is inextricably tied to the furor demanding trannies in the military ranks and abandonment of military standards and discipline. The communists can’t fulfill their destiny without removing white men from the combat ranks (where we are the overwhelming majority) and disarming lawful gun owners (again white men are overwhelming majority) no matter how strongly they hold academics, politics, and culture. They HAVE to disarm us so they can finish their theological mission. And after we elected Trump, they know they have to do this NOW or risk losing ground they’ve already won and perhaps, unthinkably, lose entirely (as the root is child’s envy they’ll never lose entirely).

    Great post.

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  125. Talha says:

    Some have proposed arming teachers…

    I am concerned with the budget required to fulfill this kind of a program; the purchase of the guns, regular maintenance and parts for upkeep, training for the teachers and also silencers for the librarians.

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    also silencers for the librarians.
     
    LOL
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  126. @Harold Smith
    Yes of course I agree; moreover, it seems to me there are a very, very large (proportionately) number of imbeciles in the ranks of the kkk (kosher kommunist klowns) and their bed-wetting fellow travelers.

    Anyway, the obfuscatory semantical "AR" strawman having been firmly dealt with, I still await RodW's explanation as to what kind of "arms" the second amendment refers to.

    Maybe we need a new (our original) “Citizenship Test”? You wanna be an American?

    Go fight the pathetic British Army. Freedom is paid for in blood. Americans know this, we paid. And now the pansies who still worship a Queen and her Princeling along with the pathetic colonies who never bought their Freedom want to lecture us? We didn’t listen to your crap then and we aren’t listening now. The only reason you’re not speaking to us in German or Japanese is that WE SAVED YOUR ASSES. With OUR guns and OUR blood. Piss off you pathetic cowards!

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    Now then.

    Don't make us have to come over there and burn your capital again.
    , @Bruford or White
    "WE SAVED YOUR ASSES"

    Nope: it was the RCN who helped us to win the Battle of the Atlantic.
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  127. Alden says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Since Jews have always been the most loudly antagonistic towards the second amendment it’s largely they who’ve crafted and concocted this “win at all costs” and “the end justifies the means” strategies.
     
    Get past your Jew hating. The most fanatical 2A people I’ve met have been “never again” Jews.

    Replace “Jews” with “communists” or “puritans” (of the type foaming at the mouth about other people poisoning themselves with drugs/alcohol or other people doing anything of which they personally disapprove). You’ll rid the world of Jews only to discover you’ve not solved the problem.

    You are right about the puritans and communists who want to dictate to everyone else. Buy it seems to me that Jews always jump on the latest Puritan cause.

    For instance gay marriage. Jews just followed along with first legalize homosexuality, then glorify it then legalize gay marriage then encourage trans sexuals. I be noticed this all my life.

    Pro Castro, anti Pinochet, pro gay, hysterical defense of black criminals, the majority of attorneys in the school desegregation and affirmative action lawsuits, anti Christianity, Jews seem to be linked to some propaganda central that tells them how to think and what causes to back.

    Right now they lead the Puritan communist causes. They haven’t always. Prohibition was led by Protestant women and clergy. But for the last 70 Year’s or so, it’s jews who lead the dangerous causes. And one can’t help but notice.

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    Indeed my friend, it’s been our bane forever. Mark Twain noted it in Mysterious Stranger:

    I know your race. It is made up of sheep. It is governed by minorities, seldom or never by majorities. It suppresses its feelings and its beliefs and follows the handful that makes the most noise. Sometimes the noisy handful is right, sometimes wrong; but no matter, the crowd follows it. The vast majority of the race, whether savage or civilized, are secretly kind-hearted and shrink from inflicting pain, but in the presence of the aggressive and pitiless minority they don't dare to assert themselves. Think of it! One kind-hearted creature spies upon another, and sees to it that he loyally helps in iniquities which revolt both of them. Speaking as an expert, I know that ninety- nine out of a hundred of your race were strongly against the killing of witches when that foolishness was first agitated by a handful of pious lunatics in the long ago. And I know that even to-day, after ages of transmitted prejudice and silly teaching, only one person in twenty puts any real heart into the harrying of a witch. And yet apparently everybody hates witches and wants them killed. Some day a handful will rise up on the other side and make the most noise--perhaps even a single daring man with a big voice and a determined front will do it--and in a week all the sheep will wheel and follow him, and witch-hunting will come to a sudden end.
     
    No Jews necessary. We have only ourselves to blame.
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  128. @Achmed E. Newman
    Almost, Fred. However, back then, people still had respect for the US Constitution as the law of the land. An Amendment was ratified and then subsequently repealed.

    If the guns were to ever get mostly banned, in the manner of England and Australia, there is NO going back from that. The country is toast. I mean, if it ain't already.

    If the guns were to ever get mostly banned, in the manner of England and Australia, there is NO going back from that. The country is toast. I mean, if it ain’t already.

    We are well on our way aren’t we. We’ve accepted that 2A “keep and bear ARMS” which encompassed state of the art military hardware only means “semi-auto pistols and rifles” haven’t we? About our only salvation now is the fact that our combat troops, pilots, and vets are overwhelmingly white males from the Midwest and South. But that safeguard is under fierce attack to replace them with trannies, queers, women, and diversities with criminal records. Ever wonder why?

    They can’t disarm us now and it frustrates the hell out of them. We’ve allowed them to invade and take over our culture, education of our children, but the real Power continues to reside in the fact that we remain armed (such as we are) and control food production. We are the kulaks. And all that prevents us from the kulaks fate is our hold on combat infantry and piloting. We are on the precipice.

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    If you're still reading, Stan, great comments that include about all the correct arguments about Americans, the 2nd Amendment and guns. Also, you too, Svigor.

    I don't have the time and patience to agrue with those on here who don't get these points. As I wrote way earlier, some on here just have nothing but their emotions to go on. They should not be voting - that is NOT working out.

    One more thing, though, Stan: As much as I agree with you, I implore you to avoid arguing so vehemently about the small details. I also don't want to let errors slide, but keep in mind that the people that you are getting upset with (at least it reads so) about the Garand vs. ___ and such, ARE ON YOUR SIDE!. Man, you've got to let the little stuff slide, or you'll have no friends, even those who should be.

    OK, one more thing after that. I think the education of our children is JUST as important as keeping our guns. Why? There will be no clear-thinking people left that do understand why me must be armed against the continually encroached Feral beast, if we don't teach the little one right from wrong. Now, if I blog in support of homeschooling, per here, here, and here, will you get in a heated argument over which curriculum to use? Again, we are on the same side.

    Keep up the great writing, Stan and Svigor!

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  129. Randal says:
    @Stan d Mute
    Maybe we need a new (our original) “Citizenship Test”? You wanna be an American?

    Go fight the pathetic British Army. Freedom is paid for in blood. Americans know this, we paid. And now the pansies who still worship a Queen and her Princeling along with the pathetic colonies who never bought their Freedom want to lecture us? We didn’t listen to your crap then and we aren’t listening now. The only reason you’re not speaking to us in German or Japanese is that WE SAVED YOUR ASSES. With OUR guns and OUR blood. Piss off you pathetic cowards!

    Now then.

    Don’t make us have to come over there and burn your capital again.

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    How much would you charge to burn DC? Maybe we could crowdfund it.
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  130. @anon

    You’ll rid the world of Jews only to discover you’ve not solved the problem.
     
    worth the risk.

    Nah, the Jews are suicidal anyway. As I noted in another thread here at Unz, putting half your genome on the most hotly contested land on the planet, where 4.5 Billion people are certain the apocalypse will begin, is extinction level stupidity. Creating and embracing an ideology of envy (Marxism/Communism) when your tribe inspires envy is extinction level stupidity. Moving into another man’s home (nation) then displaying profound arrogance and disrespect is extinction level stupidity.

    Just as our legal system prefers to let a guilty man go free than punish an innocent man, I’m happy to let the suicidal Jew solve our problem for us and protect the many righteous Jews like Ron Unz, Nicholas Stix, et al.

    20,000,000 Jews, at least half suicidally stupid, are NOT our greatest problem. Read Raspail. Look at Europe or Detroit. 6,000,000,000 Bantus swarming over us like maggots on a dead carcass are OUR extinction level stupidity. Disarming ourselves and leaving our fate at the hands of a communist run State is OUR extinction level stupidity. Force our feeble minded women to understand how precarious the survival of our children and that they already make 99% of our decisions for us – let US protect our families and children. That is Job 1.

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  131. @Alden
    You are right about the puritans and communists who want to dictate to everyone else. Buy it seems to me that Jews always jump on the latest Puritan cause.

    For instance gay marriage. Jews just followed along with first legalize homosexuality, then glorify it then legalize gay marriage then encourage trans sexuals. I be noticed this all my life.

    Pro Castro, anti Pinochet, pro gay, hysterical defense of black criminals, the majority of attorneys in the school desegregation and affirmative action lawsuits, anti Christianity, Jews seem to be linked to some propaganda central that tells them how to think and what causes to back.

    Right now they lead the Puritan communist causes. They haven’t always. Prohibition was led by Protestant women and clergy. But for the last 70 Year’s or so, it’s jews who lead the dangerous causes. And one can’t help but notice.

    Indeed my friend, it’s been our bane forever. Mark Twain noted it in Mysterious Stranger:

    I know your race. It is made up of sheep. It is governed by minorities, seldom or never by majorities. It suppresses its feelings and its beliefs and follows the handful that makes the most noise. Sometimes the noisy handful is right, sometimes wrong; but no matter, the crowd follows it. The vast majority of the race, whether savage or civilized, are secretly kind-hearted and shrink from inflicting pain, but in the presence of the aggressive and pitiless minority they don’t dare to assert themselves. Think of it! One kind-hearted creature spies upon another, and sees to it that he loyally helps in iniquities which revolt both of them. Speaking as an expert, I know that ninety- nine out of a hundred of your race were strongly against the killing of witches when that foolishness was first agitated by a handful of pious lunatics in the long ago. And I know that even to-day, after ages of transmitted prejudice and silly teaching, only one person in twenty puts any real heart into the harrying of a witch. And yet apparently everybody hates witches and wants them killed. Some day a handful will rise up on the other side and make the most noise–perhaps even a single daring man with a big voice and a determined front will do it–and in a week all the sheep will wheel and follow him, and witch-hunting will come to a sudden end.

    No Jews necessary. We have only ourselves to blame.

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  132. @eah
    Seems to be an agenda here.

    https://twitter.com/happycycling03/status/967857288278142977

    I am not an advocate of tearing down monuments. Though I can certainly understand one might find them offensive. Short form, they launched a war against the US and are therefore traitors. Whether one like it or not the traitors lost their bid for a new confederacy or nation as it were. They chose make war and the choice of politics and lost.

    It’s unusual for a country to embrace traitors as patriots, muchless hoist up monuments in their stead. Despite the tragedy of the civil war it remains a nostalgic nexus of common union and bond. Where the author slips off his contend is by dragging the historical sites into the analysis. I have visited those battle fields and walked among those tombstones. I can certainly attest to sense of presence of the those events still ringing , whistling and beckoning to this day. It evokes a reverence rarely experienced about what citizenship means. That these historical sites sells flags and about which there is very little conflict, just makes sense. Though Pres Lincoln gad n intention of launching a war to free slaves, that too was a consequence. And the subsequent amendments guaranteeing their citizenship – settled the question of slavery – a system in complete contradiction to the very fundamentals of why the nation was formed.

    That black citizens did not protest casting traitors as patriots is a testament to a singular truth — being politically correct was more valuable than to their well being than calling the traitor worship.
    In fact, its hard to imagine a people subject to more politically correct nonsense than former slaves and their descendants. Tributes to traitors is but a thin veil of what was expected as to politically correct speech and manner. In fact, the entire black population had to sit through a national celebration of the southern traitors since the end of the civil war. Let’s be honest, if you make claims about “all men being equal” and I don’t think they were speaking intellectually, but rather subject to sameness as to the law — and self determination — slavery is devastating hypocrisy that severs the very core of the nation. But let’s forgoe a critique of the founders a it is my recollection, any suggestion that the founders were logically and moral compromises of the worst order — is politically incorrect. I think it is safe to safe that as part of the historical record selling civil war memorabilia , especially at locations in which history took place is probably safe ground.
    __________________

    As for emotionalism and genetics, the record is pretty clear that most of the violence with regard to biological trait of skin color, a benign condition, it’s pretty clear that whites as a group have exhibited the highest degree of emotionalism. war against native Americans, wars against each other, even the use of force to ensure slaves, the civil war itself, was a white hyperbolic tantrum because of Pres Lincoln’s election. When it was very clear, had cooler heads prevailed, Pres Lincoln had no intention of doing anything to free slaves. Good grief, the revolutionary war itself is loaded with emotional tantrums over issues as reasonable as colonies finally paying their fair share of British investment – feed and house the troops that made safe life possible — the audacity of the mother country to expect the colonies to support the military- tantrums.

    The most important complication of the genetics question rests with which weighs the heavier on human behavior and emotional expression. That remains a puzzle. But a glance around suggests the least emotional people are the Brits – God save the queen (not intended to incite a ill informed discussion bout God’s existence and that dynamic between Jews and christians). But even then, if one examines British history, the reasons for mayhem and murder and war — makes it clear even they are not immune.

    I noticed one comment included women. Even as a fan of Carrie Nation, women’s suffrage, etc. I think one has to include white women as distinct. After-all they are part and parcel to white people’s hysterics as much as white men and more, male histrionics is often on behalf of the histrionics of white women. I guess one can suppose that among whites one gets a double dose of histrionics.

    Even the supposed even keel of asian persona requires a wading through a mountain of or two of blood intrigue and death. I am not a supporter of riots, but measuring why riots occurred in the cities during the 1970′s and since, were response to measurable practices. Nothing as mundane as a black citizen, moving into the neighborhood or black kids playing on public beaches.

    If you think modern plumbing began in the renaissance, well, gatekeeping history matters:

    https://www.plumbingsupply.com/pmbabylon.html

    No doubt history will reveal that even they got their tech from someone else and built on it. But these are minuets of history not some static conclusion of truth.

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    some missed clean up

    Short form, they launched a war against the US and are therefore traitors. Whether one likes it or not the traitors lost their bid for a new confederacy or nation as it were.


    But let’s forgo a critique of the founders a it is my recollection, any suggestion that the founders were logically and moral compromised — is politically incorrect. I think it is safe to say that as part of the historical record selling civil war memorabilia, especially at locations in which history took place is probably safe ground.
    , @Stan d Mute
    Oh my. You’ve made some sensible comments on Unz previously so I’ll grant you benefit of doubt and ask: Where, exactly, was it that States, upon joining the federation of States, agreed that they could never secede? The 10th Amendment says

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
     
    So there would have to be a specific clause somewhere prohibiting Secession, granted by the States upon joining, for Secession to constitute Treason as you charge.

    Harder to grant any benefit of doubt to this:

    the record is pretty clear that most of the violence with regard to biological trait of skin color, a benign condition, it’s pretty clear that whites as a group have exhibited the highest degree of emotionalism. war against native Americans, wars against each other
     
    Skin color? Africans were a savage primitive people with no written language, who never invented the wheel, and routinely enslaved and ate one another when whites found them in such a state. Skin color is the absolute least of the issues whites had with Africans then or now. And Amerinds? Again, savages, like Africans but more advanced in most respects (ie Aztec, Maya, Inca) (not so much NA Plains Tribes), who like Africans had constant intra-tribal wars, cannibalism, etc. The vast majority of Amerinds in (what became) America died of infectious disease unknowingly brought to NA by the pioneers and settlers who wouldn’t discover Germ Theory until the 1850’s, long after most Amerinds had died. Further, pioneers and settlers would have been thrilled to find friendly savages (and were thrilled when they did) but too often the savages would raid them like they raided other tribes for millennia. The whites didn’t like being killed and liked even less the murder of their women and children - something whites abandoned millennia ago. Obviously that had to stop and it ultimately did. I have not a shred of sympathy on this. Lastly, you suggest that wars between whites was a unique phenomenon when ALL human groups warred with themselves and others for ALL human history. Just like slavery, War was a universal human condition like famine and disease. White people just happened to turn out to be the best at conducting war with the result being what we have today, disease nearly eliminated, famine unknown, and wars conducted not for spoils but for obscure political ideologies and to play global police. Slavery only exists in scale today in Africa and the Middle East. Cannibalism and human sacrifice likewise remains in pockets of Africa along with using children as disposable weapons.

    Pres Lincoln had no intention of doing anything to free slaves. Good grief, the revolutionary war itself is loaded with emotional tantrums over issues as reasonable as colonies finally paying their fair share of British investment
     
    The Revolution was about taxation and heavy handed governance with too little local control. Basically about paying to be tyrannized. England had her hands full elsewhere and we found friends in France and Germany to help us spank the faggy King. The Civil War was also about taxation and frustration with an increasingly tyrannical North. Lincoln shredded the Constitution to force a free people and their States into a Union rather than a Federation.

    Lastly:

    I noticed one comment included women. Even as a fan of Carrie Nation, women’s suffrage, etc. I think one has to include white women as distinct. After-all they are part and parcel to white people’s hysterics as much as white men and more, male histrionics is often on behalf of the histrionics of white women.
     
    On this I won’t argue. I was raised by a brilliant woman scientist and physician but she was one of the dumbest people I’ve ever known on the subject of what it takes to create, build, and keep a Nation. I’ve become convinced that women will cause our extinction if not stopped. One need only look at what they’ve done socially here (prohibition, bubble wrapped and drugged boys, immigration, etc) as well as in Europe. Women cannot be trusted with issues pertaining to defense of our Civilization and our Nation. There are many things they do as well as men and many more they do better, but defending us is NOT on that list.
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  133. @Harold Smith
    "Irrelevant, because it doesn’t work, never has, never will."

    LOL! So according to you, because the U.S. government hasn't yet been overthrown or even seriously resisted by way of an armed revolt, the INTENT of the second amendment is somehow "irrelevant" to the construction of the second amendment in matters involving gun rights? What a ridiculous thing to say.

    "Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed 'militia' in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition."

    Nonsense.

    "The 25th anniversary is tomorrow and provides an excellent opportunity for we the people to reflect on the futility of armed resistance to US government authority within the territory of the US."

    ROTFL! If it's so "futile", then why the relentless and ever more daring push to disarm "the people"?

    "The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done."

    LOL!

    ROTFL! If it’s so “futile”, then why the relentless and ever more daring push to disarm “the people”?

    Because people who want sensible restrictions on dangerous weapons do not perceive gun ownership as anything to do with a revolutionary force in-waiting that is there to overthrow the government of the United States and perceive anyone who thinks that way is as cuckoo as Timothy McVeigh who thought he was firing the shot that would start a revolution.

    After all there are an estimated 300 million guns in the US, and since children are not supposed to have guns, that is actually more than one per adult person. With guns being such a pervasive item of household equipment, there is no reason for matters concerning the safety of guns to be any more politically partisan than safety standards for toasters or vacuum cleaners, because people of all political persuasions own them and future revolutionaries are only a tiny percentage of gun owners.

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    Because people who want sensible restrictions on dangerous weapons ...

     

    Dangerous weapons like box cutters and airplanes? Knives and blunt objects? Those kill FAR more every year than rifles (all rifles). More are killed with bare hands than with rifles..

    America’s worst school massacre involved how many guns?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

    Right. None unless you count the evil lunatic shooting himself afterwards.

    Pull up your panties and be a manling. Next time you are gang raped by a mob of homos maybe a good guy with a gun will save you. Sorry it didn’t happen last time...
    , @Harold Smith
    ROTFLMAO! The "government" doesn't care if it starts a nuclear war that kills me. The "government" doesn't care if I die in an act of domestic retaliatory terrorism (e.g. blow-back from its many heinous war crimes). The "government" doesn't care if I die from a preventable disease or condition because I can't afford outrageously costly health insurance. The "government" doesn't care if I kill myself with cigarettes. The "government" doesn't care if I starve too death because can't find a job. The government doesn't care if I die an early death because I eat dangerous food contaminated with partially hydrogenated everything, high fructose corn syrup, aluminum compounds, amorphous silica nanoparticles, etc. The "government" doesn't care if I'm made homeless and/or die from exposure to the elements after being evicted from my own property because of confiscatory property taxation; etc., etc., etc. BUT THE "GOVERNMENT" WILL SPARE NO EFFORT TO PREVENT ME FROM BEING SHOT WITH AN "DANGEROUS WEAPON" SUCH AS AN AR-15? Seriously?

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the "people" who stage these false-flag attacks and outright hoaxes (as many if not most of these mass "shootings" appear to be), as a means to disarm "the people" of "dangerous weapons" do not do so out of a sense of civic responsibility. Rather, they do so because they worry that a tipping point is going to come when things get so bad that a majority of "the people" finally realize that they are in a fight for their lives against a Satanic judeo-communist dictatorship masquerading as "their" "government".
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  134. @EliteCommInc.
    I am not an advocate of tearing down monuments. Though I can certainly understand one might find them offensive. Short form, they launched a war against the US and are therefore traitors. Whether one like it or not the traitors lost their bid for a new confederacy or nation as it were. They chose make war and the choice of politics and lost.

    It's unusual for a country to embrace traitors as patriots, muchless hoist up monuments in their stead. Despite the tragedy of the civil war it remains a nostalgic nexus of common union and bond. Where the author slips off his contend is by dragging the historical sites into the analysis. I have visited those battle fields and walked among those tombstones. I can certainly attest to sense of presence of the those events still ringing , whistling and beckoning to this day. It evokes a reverence rarely experienced about what citizenship means. That these historical sites sells flags and about which there is very little conflict, just makes sense. Though Pres Lincoln gad n intention of launching a war to free slaves, that too was a consequence. And the subsequent amendments guaranteeing their citizenship - settled the question of slavery - a system in complete contradiction to the very fundamentals of why the nation was formed.

    That black citizens did not protest casting traitors as patriots is a testament to a singular truth -- being politically correct was more valuable than to their well being than calling the traitor worship.
    In fact, its hard to imagine a people subject to more politically correct nonsense than former slaves and their descendants. Tributes to traitors is but a thin veil of what was expected as to politically correct speech and manner. In fact, the entire black population had to sit through a national celebration of the southern traitors since the end of the civil war. Let's be honest, if you make claims about "all men being equal" and I don't think they were speaking intellectually, but rather subject to sameness as to the law -- and self determination -- slavery is devastating hypocrisy that severs the very core of the nation. But let's forgoe a critique of the founders a it is my recollection, any suggestion that the founders were logically and moral compromises of the worst order -- is politically incorrect. I think it is safe to safe that as part of the historical record selling civil war memorabilia , especially at locations in which history took place is probably safe ground.
    __________________

    As for emotionalism and genetics, the record is pretty clear that most of the violence with regard to biological trait of skin color, a benign condition, it's pretty clear that whites as a group have exhibited the highest degree of emotionalism. war against native Americans, wars against each other, even the use of force to ensure slaves, the civil war itself, was a white hyperbolic tantrum because of Pres Lincoln's election. When it was very clear, had cooler heads prevailed, Pres Lincoln had no intention of doing anything to free slaves. Good grief, the revolutionary war itself is loaded with emotional tantrums over issues as reasonable as colonies finally paying their fair share of British investment - feed and house the troops that made safe life possible -- the audacity of the mother country to expect the colonies to support the military- tantrums.

    The most important complication of the genetics question rests with which weighs the heavier on human behavior and emotional expression. That remains a puzzle. But a glance around suggests the least emotional people are the Brits - God save the queen (not intended to incite a ill informed discussion bout God's existence and that dynamic between Jews and christians). But even then, if one examines British history, the reasons for mayhem and murder and war -- makes it clear even they are not immune.

    I noticed one comment included women. Even as a fan of Carrie Nation, women's suffrage, etc. I think one has to include white women as distinct. After-all they are part and parcel to white people's hysterics as much as white men and more, male histrionics is often on behalf of the histrionics of white women. I guess one can suppose that among whites one gets a double dose of histrionics.

    Even the supposed even keel of asian persona requires a wading through a mountain of or two of blood intrigue and death. I am not a supporter of riots, but measuring why riots occurred in the cities during the 1970's and since, were response to measurable practices. Nothing as mundane as a black citizen, moving into the neighborhood or black kids playing on public beaches.

    If you think modern plumbing began in the renaissance, well, gatekeeping history matters:

    https://www.plumbingsupply.com/pmbabylon.html

    No doubt history will reveal that even they got their tech from someone else and built on it. But these are minuets of history not some static conclusion of truth.

    some missed clean up

    Short form, they launched a war against the US and are therefore traitors. Whether one likes it or not the traitors lost their bid for a new confederacy or nation as it were.

    But let’s forgo a critique of the founders a it is my recollection, any suggestion that the founders were logically and moral compromised — is politically incorrect. I think it is safe to say that as part of the historical record selling civil war memorabilia, especially at locations in which history took place is probably safe ground.

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  135. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.
     
    I've never owned a gun, so I have no personal skin in the game. However, even the slightest amount of research into the 2nd Amendment makes clear that the Founding Fathers intention was to guarantee an armed citizenry for two main purposes:

    1. Because they never expected the U.S. to have a permanent standing army, the FF reasoned that state militias would be the first line of defense against any foreign invaders. An armed populace was necessary for these militia to exist.

    2. The FF was acutely aware that the Americans would never have won the war against the British if individual citizens didn't have their own firearms. The FF were also acutely aware that any government - including your own government (especially your own government) - can attempt to take away the rights of individuals. They believed that the best check on tyranny was an armed citizenry.

    So not only does the 2nd Amendment not preclude citizens from purchasing military grade assualt rifles, it positively encourages it. The FF wanted a citizenry that would be extremely dangerous to the government and the military if the citizenry felt that its rights were being curtailed.

    And before you argue that individual citizens armed with only rifles couldn't take on the U.S. military with its tanks, jets fighters and drones, I'd suggest that you look at what happened to the vaunted U.S. military in Vietnam against a bunch of guys with AK-47s and rocket launchers. Then, I'd suggest that you notice that the U.S. is losing to a bunch of really stupid gusy armed with only assault rifles and road-side bombs in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Now, I can understand the arguments against the 2nd Amendment as constituted, but it is what it is. If you want to change it, that's fine, but you'll need to change the Constitution to do so.

    You’re on to something. If we could enforce liberal gun control in Afghanistan, we might stand a chance. Waiting to take people’s guns AFTER we’ve civilized them just seems counterproductive, not to mention kinda like adding insult to injury.

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  136. utu says:
    @mcohen
    Sacrificing children on the altar of a constitutional right makes me glad i now live in australia.wild west fantasy turned deadly.in south africa i carried a sig sauer p226 as the crime rate was out of control and whites were a target.
    When i went back there for a holiday i felt insecure as i had no weapon.no security blanket.
    I had to borrow my fathers .38 special just to settle down and not worry about not having a security blanket.
    Insecurity,fear of the unknown has been a centuries old driver of weapon systems going right back to the cave man.
    People who become insecure and paranoid buy a gun.a mental illness is born out of weapon attachment.they kill people and spread there mental illness.like cruz.it is contagious.fear and panic are contagious.the only way to stop it is to remove the weapons from there hands and give them smaller more manageable weapons like martial arts training,boxing,or even access to knives.
    Thats right......just change the weapons.remove semi automatic weapons and high capacity magazines from society.

    Come on mr trump
    You got the balls

    Just do it

    People who become insecure and paranoid buy a gun.a mental illness is born out of weapon attachment.they kill people and spread there mental illness.like cruz.it is contagious.fear and panic are contagious.the only way to stop it is to remove the weapons from there hands

    Yes it is a mental disease. The mentally sick will never see it that way. They will have to be disarmed. Perhaps when Chinese come with a humanitarian mission and take over?

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  137. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Why isn’t anyone arresting crisis actors for fraud? If they accept any money from anyone because of their fakery, it becomes legally possible to prosecute them. Why doesn’t anyone think of doing this?

    We also need to pass a law that makes it illegal to hire crisis actors to show up at events and make false claims.

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  138. @Stan d Mute
    Maybe we need a new (our original) “Citizenship Test”? You wanna be an American?

    Go fight the pathetic British Army. Freedom is paid for in blood. Americans know this, we paid. And now the pansies who still worship a Queen and her Princeling along with the pathetic colonies who never bought their Freedom want to lecture us? We didn’t listen to your crap then and we aren’t listening now. The only reason you’re not speaking to us in German or Japanese is that WE SAVED YOUR ASSES. With OUR guns and OUR blood. Piss off you pathetic cowards!

    “WE SAVED YOUR ASSES”

    Nope: it was the RCN who helped us to win the Battle of the Atlantic.

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    Nope: it was the RCN who helped us to win the Battle of the Atlantic.
     
    Dammit, I wasted my one daily LOL on the post above. Wasn’t it the RCAF? All 73 of their total fighter planes? All 391 of their total aircraft including trainers? Or maybe you are correct and it was their aircraft carriers? Oh wait, they have NONE. Maybe then their vast fleet of 28 total ships? Pretty sure it wasn’t their submarines...

    LOL. Canada is a Monty Python skit writ large.
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  139. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    his birth mother was, apparently, Jewish,

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Florida-shooter-expressed-hate-for-Jews-via-private-chat-542895
    "In one tirade against his biological mother, Cruz said: “My real mom was a Jew. I am glad I never met her,” according to CNN."
     
    and his biological brother is, apparently, Black/brown

    https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/photo-shows-accused-florida-gunman-his-brother-holding-moms-ashes/

    Cruz's foster parents moved from Long Island (code for 'Jewish') to Florida

    The first attorney who spoke for Cruz was Jewish

    Suspected school shooter will plead guilty if death penalty is off the table
    https://www.cbsnews.com/.../nikolas-cruz-suspected-school-shooter-plead-guilty-death...
    Feb 17, 2018 - PARKLAND, Fla. -- The gunman accused of killing 17 people inside a Florida high school will plead guilty if prosecutors take the death penalty off the table, Broward County Public Defender Howard Finkelstein confirmed Saturday. Finkelstein is representing Nikolas Cruz, who is being held without bail
     
    Broward County is home to one of Florida's largest Jewish populations; it's also home to Jewish organization CFNS, https://cfns.us/leadership-team/ , whose leadership team/advisors includes ideologues such as Walid Phares and Daniel Pipes.
    CFNS is funded by Aubrey Chernick, who also funds CAMERA, the organization dedicated to censoring free speech.

    The article indicate’s Cruz’s mother was a drug addict, had a child with at least one black man, and another with a Hispanic. The shooter’s brother has also been committed to a mental institution.

    What a mess. A nasty, privileged, self-indulgent, narcissistic Jewish woman who was allowed to go off the rails ended up sleeping around and gaving birth to two trainwrecks, then dumped them on someone else to raise. Now the boys have become a nuisance to society.

    Drug-addicted mothers should be forcibly incarcerated with their children in a supervised setting and made to do productive work while staying clean. It’s the only way to handle them while raising their children with some sort of standards.

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    Drug-addicted mothers should be forcibly incarcerated with their children in a supervised setting and made to do productive work while staying clean. It’s the only way to handle them while raising their children with some sort of standards.
     
    Why can’t we abort their damaged fetus and then sterilize them?
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  140. mcohen says:
    @Nick Granite
    Trust your instincts. If you perceive insecurity there must be a reason and you buy a defensive weapon. What is lost on you as it is on many gun control advocates is weapons in America aren't just for personal safety, hunting etc, it is a deterrent against a tyrannical government. Some would probably scoff at the idea of citizens taking on their government in the modern era but that is why the 2nd amendment was written. Not surprisingly, most of the establishment government types would love to remove that last barrier to total domination.

    " Sacrificing the children". At least we give them a chance at this life which is more than I can say for the pro-choicers.

    That is amusing,owning an ar 15 to take on the governmemt

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    What's even more amusing is the notion that the "government" wants to ban AR-15s (and other semi-automatic rifles) because of a legitimate concern for "public safety".
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  141. Svigor says:

    Sacrificing children on the altar of a constitutional right makes me glad i now live in australia.

    Tight gun laws keeping Australia’s large Bantu and Mestizo population in check, are they?

    Yes, I’m willing to put up with a hundred or so extra murders (out of many thousands) every year in a country of 300 million to preserve the right to self-defense.

    Funny when geldings talk about having the balls to geld everyone else, so the geldings don’t feel small.

    Gun-grabbers are never funnier when they start going on about how manly gun-hating is, and how unmanly gun-loving is.

    Get past your Jew hating. The most fanatical 2A people I’ve met have been “never again” Jews.

    There are some fine 2A advocates of the Jewish persuasion, yes. But his point is valid; gun-grabbing is thick with Jews, and Jews are the vanguard of the gun-grabbers. Gun-grabbing is a Jewish cultural value, big time; defending the 2nd is not – it’s probably a good way to get yourself unpersoned by most Jews.

    Some have proposed arming teachers…

    I am concerned with the budget required to fulfill this kind of a program; the purchase of the guns, regular maintenance and parts for upkeep, training for the teachers and also silencers for the librarians.

    Your sarcasm aside, my guess is that the people advocating these programs want to get the nose into the tent, so they have tailored them to be easy to swallow. E.g., probably strictly voluntary, and probably strictly on the teacher’s dime; the public funding would probably cover no more than the initial gun safety and handling classes, or the classes required to get a permit, and maybe the permit fees (though waiving them would make more sense). This is all a wild guess pulled from my arse, though.

    Because people who want sensible restrictions on dangerous weapons do not perceive gun ownership as anything to do with a revolutionary force in-waiting that is there to overthrow the government of the United States and perceive anyone who thinks that way is as cuckoo as Timothy McVeigh who thought he was firing the shot that would start a revolution.

    We have different definitions of “sensible” than you do. Btw, “dangerous weapons” is redundant.

    P.S., there’s a lot of room between “protection vs. gov’t” and “overthrowing the gov’t.” I’m pretty radical, and have no interest in overthrowing the US gov’t. I would like to drive them out of a nice chunk of the current territory of the US (if you can’t think of a good reason to do that, you’re probably not an American), but I am the opposite of interested in overthrowing the US gov’t; somebody needs to take care of the useful idiot whites, the blacks, the Jews, etc.

    After all there are an estimated 300 million guns in the US, and since children are not supposed to have guns, that is actually more than one per adult person. With guns being such a pervasive item of household equipment, there is no reason for matters concerning the safety of guns to be any more politically partisan than safety standards for toasters or vacuum cleaners, because people of all political persuasions own them and future revolutionaries are only a tiny percentage of gun owners.

    This is equal parts irrelevant and wrong. For one thing, a Hell of a lot of those guns are in large collections. A family member owns four, for example. That’s three people subtracted from your presumed population of gun-owners, right there. Four is actually a small collection. There are plenty of gun-owners with dozens, some with hundreds, and some with thousands. For another, nobody really knows how many guns are out there. The estimates are probably not very accurate. And finally, the gun issue Bloody Well Is partisan, so obviously there’s something you’re not accounting for.

    Short form, they launched a war against the US and are therefore traitors. Whether one likes it or not the traitors lost their bid for a new confederacy or nation as it were.

    Irrelevant; the USA was founded by such traitors.

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  142. For posterity, an “assault rifle” is a selective fire, short barreled intermediate caliber rifle with a detachable magazine. An AR-15 is not an assault rifle because it is not full auto select fire. It’s just an intermediate caliber short barreled rifle.

    An “assault weapon” is defined by the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, as a semi-auto rifle with a folding stock, a pistol grip, and a bayonet mount or a grenade launcher (?!?), or a semi-auto shotgun with a folding stock and a pistol grip, or a pistol with a barrel shroud and a weight of more than 50 oz.

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  143. @EliteCommInc.
    I am not an advocate of tearing down monuments. Though I can certainly understand one might find them offensive. Short form, they launched a war against the US and are therefore traitors. Whether one like it or not the traitors lost their bid for a new confederacy or nation as it were. They chose make war and the choice of politics and lost.

    It's unusual for a country to embrace traitors as patriots, muchless hoist up monuments in their stead. Despite the tragedy of the civil war it remains a nostalgic nexus of common union and bond. Where the author slips off his contend is by dragging the historical sites into the analysis. I have visited those battle fields and walked among those tombstones. I can certainly attest to sense of presence of the those events still ringing , whistling and beckoning to this day. It evokes a reverence rarely experienced about what citizenship means. That these historical sites sells flags and about which there is very little conflict, just makes sense. Though Pres Lincoln gad n intention of launching a war to free slaves, that too was a consequence. And the subsequent amendments guaranteeing their citizenship - settled the question of slavery - a system in complete contradiction to the very fundamentals of why the nation was formed.

    That black citizens did not protest casting traitors as patriots is a testament to a singular truth -- being politically correct was more valuable than to their well being than calling the traitor worship.
    In fact, its hard to imagine a people subject to more politically correct nonsense than former slaves and their descendants. Tributes to traitors is but a thin veil of what was expected as to politically correct speech and manner. In fact, the entire black population had to sit through a national celebration of the southern traitors since the end of the civil war. Let's be honest, if you make claims about "all men being equal" and I don't think they were speaking intellectually, but rather subject to sameness as to the law -- and self determination -- slavery is devastating hypocrisy that severs the very core of the nation. But let's forgoe a critique of the founders a it is my recollection, any suggestion that the founders were logically and moral compromises of the worst order -- is politically incorrect. I think it is safe to safe that as part of the historical record selling civil war memorabilia , especially at locations in which history took place is probably safe ground.
    __________________

    As for emotionalism and genetics, the record is pretty clear that most of the violence with regard to biological trait of skin color, a benign condition, it's pretty clear that whites as a group have exhibited the highest degree of emotionalism. war against native Americans, wars against each other, even the use of force to ensure slaves, the civil war itself, was a white hyperbolic tantrum because of Pres Lincoln's election. When it was very clear, had cooler heads prevailed, Pres Lincoln had no intention of doing anything to free slaves. Good grief, the revolutionary war itself is loaded with emotional tantrums over issues as reasonable as colonies finally paying their fair share of British investment - feed and house the troops that made safe life possible -- the audacity of the mother country to expect the colonies to support the military- tantrums.

    The most important complication of the genetics question rests with which weighs the heavier on human behavior and emotional expression. That remains a puzzle. But a glance around suggests the least emotional people are the Brits - God save the queen (not intended to incite a ill informed discussion bout God's existence and that dynamic between Jews and christians). But even then, if one examines British history, the reasons for mayhem and murder and war -- makes it clear even they are not immune.

    I noticed one comment included women. Even as a fan of Carrie Nation, women's suffrage, etc. I think one has to include white women as distinct. After-all they are part and parcel to white people's hysterics as much as white men and more, male histrionics is often on behalf of the histrionics of white women. I guess one can suppose that among whites one gets a double dose of histrionics.

    Even the supposed even keel of asian persona requires a wading through a mountain of or two of blood intrigue and death. I am not a supporter of riots, but measuring why riots occurred in the cities during the 1970's and since, were response to measurable practices. Nothing as mundane as a black citizen, moving into the neighborhood or black kids playing on public beaches.

    If you think modern plumbing began in the renaissance, well, gatekeeping history matters:

    https://www.plumbingsupply.com/pmbabylon.html

    No doubt history will reveal that even they got their tech from someone else and built on it. But these are minuets of history not some static conclusion of truth.

    Oh my. You’ve made some sensible comments on Unz previously so I’ll grant you benefit of doubt and ask: Where, exactly, was it that States, upon joining the federation of States, agreed that they could never secede? The 10th Amendment says

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

    So there would have to be a specific clause somewhere prohibiting Secession, granted by the States upon joining, for Secession to constitute Treason as you charge.

    Harder to grant any benefit of doubt to this:

    the record is pretty clear that most of the violence with regard to biological trait of skin color, a benign condition, it’s pretty clear that whites as a group have exhibited the highest degree of emotionalism. war against native Americans, wars against each other

    Skin color? Africans were a savage primitive people with no written language, who never invented the wheel, and routinely enslaved and ate one another when whites found them in such a state. Skin color is the absolute least of the issues whites had with Africans then or now. And Amerinds? Again, savages, like Africans but more advanced in most respects (ie Aztec, Maya, Inca) (not so much NA Plains Tribes), who like Africans had constant intra-tribal wars, cannibalism, etc. The vast majority of Amerinds in (what became) America died of infectious disease unknowingly brought to NA by the pioneers and settlers who wouldn’t discover Germ Theory until the 1850’s, long after most Amerinds had died. Further, pioneers and settlers would have been thrilled to find friendly savages (and were thrilled when they did) but too often the savages would raid them like they raided other tribes for millennia. The whites didn’t like being killed and liked even less the murder of their women and children – something whites abandoned millennia ago. Obviously that had to stop and it ultimately did. I have not a shred of sympathy on this. Lastly, you suggest that wars between whites was a unique phenomenon when ALL human groups warred with themselves and others for ALL human history. Just like slavery, War was a universal human condition like famine and disease. White people just happened to turn out to be the best at conducting war with the result being what we have today, disease nearly eliminated, famine unknown, and wars conducted not for spoils but for obscure political ideologies and to play global police. Slavery only exists in scale today in Africa and the Middle East. Cannibalism and human sacrifice likewise remains in pockets of Africa along with using children as disposable weapons.

    Pres Lincoln had no intention of doing anything to free slaves. Good grief, the revolutionary war itself is loaded with emotional tantrums over issues as reasonable as colonies finally paying their fair share of British investment

    The Revolution was about taxation and heavy handed governance with too little local control. Basically about paying to be tyrannized. England had her hands full elsewhere and we found friends in France and Germany to help us spank the faggy King. The Civil War was also about taxation and frustration with an increasingly tyrannical North. Lincoln shredded the Constitution to force a free people and their States into a Union rather than a Federation.

    Lastly:

    I noticed one comment included women. Even as a fan of Carrie Nation, women’s suffrage, etc. I think one has to include white women as distinct. After-all they are part and parcel to white people’s hysterics as much as white men and more, male histrionics is often on behalf of the histrionics of white women.

    On this I won’t argue. I was raised by a brilliant woman scientist and physician but she was one of the dumbest people I’ve ever known on the subject of what it takes to create, build, and keep a Nation. I’ve become convinced that women will cause our extinction if not stopped. One need only look at what they’ve done socially here (prohibition, bubble wrapped and drugged boys, immigration, etc) as well as in Europe. Women cannot be trusted with issues pertaining to defense of our Civilization and our Nation. There are many things they do as well as men and many more they do better, but defending us is NOT on that list.

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  144. @Jonathan Mason

    ROTFL! If it’s so “futile”, then why the relentless and ever more daring push to disarm “the people”?
     
    Because people who want sensible restrictions on dangerous weapons do not perceive gun ownership as anything to do with a revolutionary force in-waiting that is there to overthrow the government of the United States and perceive anyone who thinks that way is as cuckoo as Timothy McVeigh who thought he was firing the shot that would start a revolution.

    After all there are an estimated 300 million guns in the US, and since children are not supposed to have guns, that is actually more than one per adult person. With guns being such a pervasive item of household equipment, there is no reason for matters concerning the safety of guns to be any more politically partisan than safety standards for toasters or vacuum cleaners, because people of all political persuasions own them and future revolutionaries are only a tiny percentage of gun owners.

    Because people who want sensible restrictions on dangerous weapons …

    Dangerous weapons like box cutters and airplanes? Knives and blunt objects? Those kill FAR more every year than rifles (all rifles). More are killed with bare hands than with rifles..

    America’s worst school massacre involved how many guns?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

    Right. None unless you count the evil lunatic shooting himself afterwards.

    Pull up your panties and be a manling. Next time you are gang raped by a mob of homos maybe a good guy with a gun will save you. Sorry it didn’t happen last time…

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  145. @Bruford or White
    "WE SAVED YOUR ASSES"

    Nope: it was the RCN who helped us to win the Battle of the Atlantic.

    Nope: it was the RCN who helped us to win the Battle of the Atlantic.

    Dammit, I wasted my one daily LOL on the post above. Wasn’t it the RCAF? All 73 of their total fighter planes? All 391 of their total aircraft including trainers? Or maybe you are correct and it was their aircraft carriers? Oh wait, they have NONE. Maybe then their vast fleet of 28 total ships? Pretty sure it wasn’t their submarines…

    LOL. Canada is a Monty Python skit writ large.

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    The RCAF died a "quiet" death circa 1970 when the air force, army and navy were integrated into the Canadian Defence Force and the former British style uniforms were abandoned for a one uniform fits all services. I do not think morale of the troops has ever been high on the worry list of their leaders.
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  146. CCZ says:
    @TheBoom
    but all of those statements were done out of compassion. Poor lad. He is just so compassionate he can't help but want to kill those who don't share his level of compassion.

    Teen Tantrums!! (Kasky is towards the end of the 1.5 minute video.)

    http://time.com/5164939/march-for-our-lives-florida-shooting/

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  147. @Anon
    The article indicate's Cruz's mother was a drug addict, had a child with at least one black man, and another with a Hispanic. The shooter's brother has also been committed to a mental institution.

    What a mess. A nasty, privileged, self-indulgent, narcissistic Jewish woman who was allowed to go off the rails ended up sleeping around and gaving birth to two trainwrecks, then dumped them on someone else to raise. Now the boys have become a nuisance to society.

    Drug-addicted mothers should be forcibly incarcerated with their children in a supervised setting and made to do productive work while staying clean. It's the only way to handle them while raising their children with some sort of standards.

    Drug-addicted mothers should be forcibly incarcerated with their children in a supervised setting and made to do productive work while staying clean. It’s the only way to handle them while raising their children with some sort of standards.

    Why can’t we abort their damaged fetus and then sterilize them?

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    There are nearly 98, 000 public schools . 67,000 of those institutions are HS schools. The number of school shootings this year and last, stands at four. That's roughly, 0.004081632653061225% of all schools in the US. If one simply considers HS that is 0.0166 . . .%. Looking at Florida school systems alone 2700 schools 0.148148 . . .%. From multiple perspectives, its a very small low percentage crime probably best dealt with at the local level. Students decrying a lack of national gun restriction should examine the circumstances surrounding this one former student and his relations with the school and the community as contributors that outstrip gun ownership to the cause of this incident.

    There is no national polity that or ethos that encourages or supports mass shootings or killings in any manner.


    As for the NRA, they should know by now that every such incident is going to evoke emotional responses for more gun control. And the generations to follow are going to be more inclined to respond to that emotive complaint. And merely dismissing them as over-hyped hysterical softies will not work since those are traits they embrace, Their response is that all students need a safe place regardless of how emotional they are. Bust asking tough questions about how the school and the community fostered this tragedy might be more effective.

    gun advocates will ave to develop more convincing positions than mere belittling.

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  148. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The fact that cruz hated jews has also been overlooked in the media.the school had a 40% jewish student population

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/opinion/call-the-douglas-high-shooting-by-its-name-an-anti-semitic-attack-1.5842172

    Over at this blog

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/02/the-fake-courage-awards-of-2018-and-the-nominees-are-commentary-by-fred.html#comments

    The author found it amusing to publish a yellow star of david with gun owner written on it similat in style to the one jews were made to wear by nazis.
    Well take your badge and shove it up your fat ass

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  149. @Jonathan Mason

    ROTFL! If it’s so “futile”, then why the relentless and ever more daring push to disarm “the people”?
     
    Because people who want sensible restrictions on dangerous weapons do not perceive gun ownership as anything to do with a revolutionary force in-waiting that is there to overthrow the government of the United States and perceive anyone who thinks that way is as cuckoo as Timothy McVeigh who thought he was firing the shot that would start a revolution.

    After all there are an estimated 300 million guns in the US, and since children are not supposed to have guns, that is actually more than one per adult person. With guns being such a pervasive item of household equipment, there is no reason for matters concerning the safety of guns to be any more politically partisan than safety standards for toasters or vacuum cleaners, because people of all political persuasions own them and future revolutionaries are only a tiny percentage of gun owners.

    ROTFLMAO! The “government” doesn’t care if it starts a nuclear war that kills me. The “government” doesn’t care if I die in an act of domestic retaliatory terrorism (e.g. blow-back from its many heinous war crimes). The “government” doesn’t care if I die from a preventable disease or condition because I can’t afford outrageously costly health insurance. The “government” doesn’t care if I kill myself with cigarettes. The “government” doesn’t care if I starve too death because can’t find a job. The government doesn’t care if I die an early death because I eat dangerous food contaminated with partially hydrogenated everything, high fructose corn syrup, aluminum compounds, amorphous silica nanoparticles, etc. The “government” doesn’t care if I’m made homeless and/or die from exposure to the elements after being evicted from my own property because of confiscatory property taxation; etc., etc., etc. BUT THE “GOVERNMENT” WILL SPARE NO EFFORT TO PREVENT ME FROM BEING SHOT WITH AN “DANGEROUS WEAPON” SUCH AS AN AR-15? Seriously?

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the “people” who stage these false-flag attacks and outright hoaxes (as many if not most of these mass “shootings” appear to be), as a means to disarm “the people” of “dangerous weapons” do not do so out of a sense of civic responsibility. Rather, they do so because they worry that a tipping point is going to come when things get so bad that a majority of “the people” finally realize that they are in a fight for their lives against a Satanic judeo-communist dictatorship masquerading as “their” “government”.

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  150. @mcohen
    That is amusing,owning an ar 15 to take on the governmemt

    What’s even more amusing is the notion that the “government” wants to ban AR-15s (and other semi-automatic rifles) because of a legitimate concern for “public safety”.

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  152. eah says:
    @El Dato

    What would be the/a reasonable charge?
     
    Being fucking asseholes sounds like a good charge.

    They are bringing noise to the table. Jaws have been broken for less.

    A(nother) internet tough guy — wants to ‘hunt people down’ and maybe even ‘break the jaws’ of those who say things he doesn’t like.

    Jewish fears are really excessive.

    Your fear of people saying things is “really excessive”– you must be a Jew.

    “LOL”

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  153. @anonymous
    his birth mother was, apparently, Jewish,

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Florida-shooter-expressed-hate-for-Jews-via-private-chat-542895
    "In one tirade against his biological mother, Cruz said: “My real mom was a Jew. I am glad I never met her,” according to CNN."
     
    and his biological brother is, apparently, Black/brown

    https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/photo-shows-accused-florida-gunman-his-brother-holding-moms-ashes/

    Cruz's foster parents moved from Long Island (code for 'Jewish') to Florida

    The first attorney who spoke for Cruz was Jewish

    Suspected school shooter will plead guilty if death penalty is off the table
    https://www.cbsnews.com/.../nikolas-cruz-suspected-school-shooter-plead-guilty-death...
    Feb 17, 2018 - PARKLAND, Fla. -- The gunman accused of killing 17 people inside a Florida high school will plead guilty if prosecutors take the death penalty off the table, Broward County Public Defender Howard Finkelstein confirmed Saturday. Finkelstein is representing Nikolas Cruz, who is being held without bail
     
    Broward County is home to one of Florida's largest Jewish populations; it's also home to Jewish organization CFNS, https://cfns.us/leadership-team/ , whose leadership team/advisors includes ideologues such as Walid Phares and Daniel Pipes.
    CFNS is funded by Aubrey Chernick, who also funds CAMERA, the organization dedicated to censoring free speech.

    Neither Walid Phares or Daniel Pipes are ideologues.

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  154. @Stan d Mute

    The M1A also only takes five or so rounds at a time, loaded from a clip (a real “clip” not some misnomer applied to a “magazine”) from above the open breech. Under the modern definition it is not an assault rifle. The later of which are loaded with an interchangeable magazine and has a full auto select switch.
     
    Oh FFS. I’m so disappointed now in Unz.com - of all places I thought that intelligent life existed here.

    An M1A differs from an AR15 in that it fires a more powerful round (.308 vs .223). It is built with a 10 round magazine.

    http://www.springfield-armory.com/m1a-series/

    The M1A is a civilian knockoff of the M14 just like the original Colt AR-15 was a civilian knockoff of the M16. The AR15 design was sold by ArmaLite (a spin-off of Fairchild) to Colt and stands for ARmalite-15 (replacing AR-5, AR-7, & failed AR-10 designs). Neither the M1A nor the AR15 has an auto select switch. Functionally neither is any different at all from a standard .223 varmint rifle or a .308 deer rifle.

    Charitably, you may have meant the M1A1 which was a .30 carbine manufactured by General Motors, a military weapon designed specifically for Airborne use. It was a lighter version of the M1 Garand (version meaning completely different - ammo and barrel). The M1 Carbine had a detachable magazine with 15 round capacity and later 30 round mags were available. These are ALL antique rifles, owned by collectors, and most have been refurbished diminishing their value. If you intended to compare antiques to modern sporting rifles, well.. Keep in mind that many antique cannon still exist too, and in perfectly serviceable condition.

    This is ALL public domain info, not SCI clearance stuff. What excuse is there?

    You know Stan, you could have just said “I think you confused the M1A with the M1 Garand.” But no, you had to show off like some arrogant POS. Gosh! How superior you are… In your own mind.

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  155. @John Henry
    The M1A also only takes five or so rounds at a time, loaded from a clip (a real "clip" not some misnomer applied to a "magazine") from above the open breech. Under the modern definition it is not an assault rifle. The later of which are loaded with an interchangeable magazine and has a full auto select switch.

    Not true, John. Mine is magazine fed and uses M14 20round magazines. You’re referring to the M1 Garand which chambers the 30/06 round. The M1A is the semi-auto version of the M14.

    I referred to my M1A as my battle rifle, not an assault rifle.

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  156. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Youtube has gone totally ADL

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  157. @Stan d Mute

    The M1A also only takes five or so rounds at a time, loaded from a clip (a real “clip” not some misnomer applied to a “magazine”) from above the open breech. Under the modern definition it is not an assault rifle. The later of which are loaded with an interchangeable magazine and has a full auto select switch.
     
    Oh FFS. I’m so disappointed now in Unz.com - of all places I thought that intelligent life existed here.

    An M1A differs from an AR15 in that it fires a more powerful round (.308 vs .223). It is built with a 10 round magazine.

    http://www.springfield-armory.com/m1a-series/

    The M1A is a civilian knockoff of the M14 just like the original Colt AR-15 was a civilian knockoff of the M16. The AR15 design was sold by ArmaLite (a spin-off of Fairchild) to Colt and stands for ARmalite-15 (replacing AR-5, AR-7, & failed AR-10 designs). Neither the M1A nor the AR15 has an auto select switch. Functionally neither is any different at all from a standard .223 varmint rifle or a .308 deer rifle.

    Charitably, you may have meant the M1A1 which was a .30 carbine manufactured by General Motors, a military weapon designed specifically for Airborne use. It was a lighter version of the M1 Garand (version meaning completely different - ammo and barrel). The M1 Carbine had a detachable magazine with 15 round capacity and later 30 round mags were available. These are ALL antique rifles, owned by collectors, and most have been refurbished diminishing their value. If you intended to compare antiques to modern sporting rifles, well.. Keep in mind that many antique cannon still exist too, and in perfectly serviceable condition.

    This is ALL public domain info, not SCI clearance stuff. What excuse is there?

    “Functionally neither is any different at all from a standard .223 varmint rifle or a .308 deer rifle. ”

    Not quite correct. Both rifles are made for combat by being easily disassembled for cleaning or repair in the field and are much more durable than semi-auto hunting rifles. That is what makes them battle rifles instead of hunting rifles.

    Anyway, most varminters and deer hunters use bolt action rifles for long range sport. The M1A doesn’t function as well with .308 hunting loads and is much more reliable when fed FMJ 7.62 NATO military spec. ammunition.

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  158. KenH says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Since Jews have always been the most loudly antagonistic towards the second amendment it’s largely they who’ve crafted and concocted this “win at all costs” and “the end justifies the means” strategies.
     
    Get past your Jew hating. The most fanatical 2A people I’ve met have been “never again” Jews.

    Replace “Jews” with “communists” or “puritans” (of the type foaming at the mouth about other people poisoning themselves with drugs/alcohol or other people doing anything of which they personally disapprove). You’ll rid the world of Jews only to discover you’ve not solved the problem.

    Get past your Jew hating. The most fanatical 2A people I’ve met have been “never again” Jews.

    It’s called facts, Stanley. Just because you know a handful of Jews who support the second amendment doesn’t change this reality. All 10-11 Jewish senators are anti-second amendment as is virtually every Jew serving in the House.

    Replace “Jews” with “communists” or “puritans”

    Jews invented communism and are actively involved in American communism and other far left wing movements. Without their money, leadership and friendly media coverage most would collapse almost overnight.

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    Like @twodees, I disagree with nothing you wrote, but it’s not helpful. The commie rats will get theirs when our bankrupt system collapses whether they’re Jew or anything else. But by blaming just Jews, when obviously it’s not just Jews, you endanger the many good Jews like our host here. If nothing else, you are a guest in his house, stop shitting on him. It’s exactly like our ungrateful immi-vaders in our country today isn’t it?

    WRT @twodees, since I’ve wasted far too much time today commenting, my apology for replying to you within my reply to @kenh. But calling your M1A a “battle rifle” is unhelpful to your cause. I don’t own one but have enough concern for you that I use “modern sporting rifle” and point out that it is functionally identical to a .308 deer rifle - your quibble that it really is better suited for combat use due to ease of field stripping and what have you is counterproductive to your own interest my friend. I’m one of about five people here who want you to have that gun!

    Sheesh, even when trying to be helpful I get crap from you guys...
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  159. @mcohen
    Sacrificing children on the altar of a constitutional right makes me glad i now live in australia.wild west fantasy turned deadly.in south africa i carried a sig sauer p226 as the crime rate was out of control and whites were a target.
    When i went back there for a holiday i felt insecure as i had no weapon.no security blanket.
    I had to borrow my fathers .38 special just to settle down and not worry about not having a security blanket.
    Insecurity,fear of the unknown has been a centuries old driver of weapon systems going right back to the cave man.
    People who become insecure and paranoid buy a gun.a mental illness is born out of weapon attachment.they kill people and spread there mental illness.like cruz.it is contagious.fear and panic are contagious.the only way to stop it is to remove the weapons from there hands and give them smaller more manageable weapons like martial arts training,boxing,or even access to knives.
    Thats right......just change the weapons.remove semi automatic weapons and high capacity magazines from society.

    Come on mr trump
    You got the balls

    Just do it

    I’m glad you’re in Australia, too. Now, if I could only get you to butt out of our business…… I’ll just add you to my ignore list. You’ve never said anything intelligent since you’ve been here anyway.

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  160. @Talha
    Some have proposed arming teachers...

    I am concerned with the budget required to fulfill this kind of a program; the purchase of the guns, regular maintenance and parts for upkeep, training for the teachers and also silencers for the librarians.

    also silencers for the librarians.

    LOL

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    Yup. The real budget buster when it come to arming teachers and staff!
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  161. @Stan d Mute

    Drug-addicted mothers should be forcibly incarcerated with their children in a supervised setting and made to do productive work while staying clean. It’s the only way to handle them while raising their children with some sort of standards.
     
    Why can’t we abort their damaged fetus and then sterilize them?

    There are nearly 98, 000 public schools . 67,000 of those institutions are HS schools. The number of school shootings this year and last, stands at four. That’s roughly, 0.004081632653061225% of all schools in the US. If one simply considers HS that is 0.0166 . . .%. Looking at Florida school systems alone 2700 schools 0.148148 . . .%. From multiple perspectives, its a very small low percentage crime probably best dealt with at the local level. Students decrying a lack of national gun restriction should examine the circumstances surrounding this one former student and his relations with the school and the community as contributors that outstrip gun ownership to the cause of this incident.

    There is no national polity that or ethos that encourages or supports mass shootings or killings in any manner.

    As for the NRA, they should know by now that every such incident is going to evoke emotional responses for more gun control. And the generations to follow are going to be more inclined to respond to that emotive complaint. And merely dismissing them as over-hyped hysterical softies will not work since those are traits they embrace, Their response is that all students need a safe place regardless of how emotional they are. Bust asking tough questions about how the school and the community fostered this tragedy might be more effective.

    gun advocates will ave to develop more convincing positions than mere belittling.

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    And now you show why I gave you benefit of doubt in another comment reply. But I disagree with your last line here, these milk fed bubble wrapped snowflakes will never be convinced and it’s long past time that real men told them to STFU and MYOFB. Coddling and placating and pacifying is how we arrived here isn’t it?
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  162. @Randal
    Now then.

    Don't make us have to come over there and burn your capital again.

    How much would you charge to burn DC? Maybe we could crowdfund it.

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    How much would you charge to burn DC? Maybe we could crowdfund it.
     
    Well it would be doomed to fail if we can’t get them to stop spending half the day drinking tea, eating crumpets, and mangling Americanish.

    Between you and @randal and your hilarious one liners I can retire saddened only that I get but one LOL allocation per day..
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  163. @animalogic
    The Second Amendment is a fascinating law. I wish I had time study its historical evolution.
    Its fascinating because it presents overtly a tension between the individual and the State.
    It speaks of a "well regulated militia"-- ie a militia is a tool of the state. But it immediately counterposes that to the security of a FREE state. So, the constitution clearly recognizes that freedom is an absolute qualification to any state. Implied is the right of citizens to resist (keep and bear arms) a state that infringes freedom. Of course, that's difficult, WHEN/HOW can we say a state is NOT free?
    Very relevant to the 21st C....

    THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS

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    R E P O R T

    OF THE

    SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE CONSTITUTION

    OF THE

    COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

    UNITED STATES SENATE

    NINETY-SEVENTH CONGRESS

    http://guncite.com/journals/senrpt/senrpt.html

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  164. @KenH

    Get past your Jew hating. The most fanatical 2A people I’ve met have been “never again” Jews.
     
    It's called facts, Stanley. Just because you know a handful of Jews who support the second amendment doesn't change this reality. All 10-11 Jewish senators are anti-second amendment as is virtually every Jew serving in the House.

    Replace “Jews” with “communists” or “puritans”
     
    Jews invented communism and are actively involved in American communism and other far left wing movements. Without their money, leadership and friendly media coverage most would collapse almost overnight.

    Like @twodees, I disagree with nothing you wrote, but it’s not helpful. The commie rats will get theirs when our bankrupt system collapses whether they’re Jew or anything else. But by blaming just Jews, when obviously it’s not just Jews, you endanger the many good Jews like our host here. If nothing else, you are a guest in his house, stop shitting on him. It’s exactly like our ungrateful immi-vaders in our country today isn’t it?

    WRT @twodees, since I’ve wasted far too much time today commenting, my apology for replying to you within my reply to @kenh. But calling your M1A a “battle rifle” is unhelpful to your cause. I don’t own one but have enough concern for you that I use “modern sporting rifle” and point out that it is functionally identical to a .308 deer rifle – your quibble that it really is better suited for combat use due to ease of field stripping and what have you is counterproductive to your own interest my friend. I’m one of about five people here who want you to have that gun!

    Sheesh, even when trying to be helpful I get crap from you guys…

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  165. @EliteCommInc.
    There are nearly 98, 000 public schools . 67,000 of those institutions are HS schools. The number of school shootings this year and last, stands at four. That's roughly, 0.004081632653061225% of all schools in the US. If one simply considers HS that is 0.0166 . . .%. Looking at Florida school systems alone 2700 schools 0.148148 . . .%. From multiple perspectives, its a very small low percentage crime probably best dealt with at the local level. Students decrying a lack of national gun restriction should examine the circumstances surrounding this one former student and his relations with the school and the community as contributors that outstrip gun ownership to the cause of this incident.

    There is no national polity that or ethos that encourages or supports mass shootings or killings in any manner.


    As for the NRA, they should know by now that every such incident is going to evoke emotional responses for more gun control. And the generations to follow are going to be more inclined to respond to that emotive complaint. And merely dismissing them as over-hyped hysterical softies will not work since those are traits they embrace, Their response is that all students need a safe place regardless of how emotional they are. Bust asking tough questions about how the school and the community fostered this tragedy might be more effective.

    gun advocates will ave to develop more convincing positions than mere belittling.

    And now you show why I gave you benefit of doubt in another comment reply. But I disagree with your last line here, these milk fed bubble wrapped snowflakes will never be convinced and it’s long past time that real men told them to STFU and MYOFB. Coddling and placating and pacifying is how we arrived here isn’t it?

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    Well,

    I think those numbers are correct.

    And while I certainly understand the desire to tell liberals and a host of others just as note, theyare ell outside your sphere of influence, unless you are recognized in education your response will most likely confirm their worst suspicions and why they need to rest guns and nearly everything else from your grasp.

    A sound verbal flogging will have but temporary effect. But you could confront them with the numbers and an array of data refutes their advocacy. And there's one other aspect of this would be effective. Discuss the attitudes, and behaviors with the system in which this occurred that is responsible.

    If there was ever a kid who needed the sensitivity they demand, why did they fail to use it with each other and with this young man, so outside their concern, he used a weapon for revenge. For all of the talk about diversity, caring, inclusion, anti-bullying, etc. these kids instead showed no care, no inclination of including, and at every opportunity engaged in bullying this troubled young man. Rejected by the "loving community they claim they want he sought out another means of expressing himself. The community including the students need to explain how they failed to provide a safe space for that young man. They need to explain why they created an unsafe place that resulted in reciprocity -- he created unsafe spaces for them.
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  166. Wisely, Mr. Derbyshire wrote: “My impression is that the U.S.A. is a much more hysterical country than it used to be. You can, in your imagination, conjure up the way particular human types will react to some public event.”

    Z.U.S.A. citizens are hysterical (sick) due to decades of population shock treatments which culminate in a sinister conditioning program.

    At present experts, Corporate Media “Talking Heads,” and war supportive-politicians seek ways to make schools safe from mass murderers.

    And they want to make the “Sheeple” figure that psycho murderers of school children lack imagination and will not think “out of the sandbox.”

    Yup… soon as interior school buildings are fortified like Attica, the “insane” will not look to areas exterior to building-spaces as prospective student-killing scenes!

    No, no! Upholding State-of-art Amerikan school safety will have no need to resemble “Stalag 13,” including exterior checkpoint gates, armed-lookout towers, et al.

    No clear thinking “nut” will take up shooting position within distance of a school parking lot, right? No revenge shots taken at bully “jocks” competing at high school football fields! Right?

    Yup, our studies provide evidence how student killers are conditioned, “they’ll stick-to-the-script.”

    But a “heads up” school maintenance man, one who routinely carries garbage bags outside for disposal into a hopper, might pause to look around during an outdoor “fire drill” proceeding, and say to self, “Oh man, it looks like all the kids & teachers reacted on-time & are safe now!”

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    And they want to make the “Sheeple” figure that psycho murderers of school children lack imagination and will not think “out of the sandbox.”

    Yup… soon as interior school buildings are fortified like Attica, the “insane” will not look to areas exterior to building-spaces as prospective student-killing scenes!
     
    I know Parkland/Coral Springs very well and one of the parents did an interview with extremely cogent point. After school hundreds of kids walk down the sidewalk past the Walmart and across Coral Ridge to the McD’s and other hangouts, all of them staring at their iPhones oblivious to anything around them. I won’t finish the thought, but I found the video:

    https://youtu.be/vTLKp1e-S9g
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  167. @Twodees Partain
    How much would you charge to burn DC? Maybe we could crowdfund it.

    How much would you charge to burn DC? Maybe we could crowdfund it.

    Well it would be doomed to fail if we can’t get them to stop spending half the day drinking tea, eating crumpets, and mangling Americanish.

    Between you and @randal and your hilarious one liners I can retire saddened only that I get but one LOL allocation per day..

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    I was going to float the idea of some sort of "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" deal over Washington and London, to be honest....
    , @Twodees Partain
    Thanks, Stan. It's probably a good thing that I only get to hang one tag per hour, or I'd just tag and move along without commenting on some threads. Maybe some day we'll have a "shill" tag for the ones like little miss Demi.
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  168. WhiteWolf says:
    @El Dato
    Who is that David Hogg guy and why is Youtube cleaning up videos about him?

    They’re censoring a lot of videos on Parkland because like many similar productions it’s a manufactured event. Just a crisis drill sold as real to both distract the public and illegally disarm Americans.

    Mr Derbyshire makes a great observation on how quick narratives and what is accepted as normal change in society. It’s both scary and promising. Promising because a return to sanity can be quick process once the psychopaths are out of power.

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  169. Paw says:
    @Randal

    I think that’s right as a generalization. Reading it, in fact, brought to mind something I have found myself thinking rather often in recent years: The much-discussed Flynn Effect notwithstanding, we are in some important, unquantified way stupider than our forebears of a hundred years ago.
     
    Ideology enstupidises.

    Leftist ideology, doubly so.

    Crimes , ideology and propaganda covered up by Hysteria. Like Dolf’s Germany. It is all the same…

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  170. Randal says:
    @Stan d Mute

    How much would you charge to burn DC? Maybe we could crowdfund it.
     
    Well it would be doomed to fail if we can’t get them to stop spending half the day drinking tea, eating crumpets, and mangling Americanish.

    Between you and @randal and your hilarious one liners I can retire saddened only that I get but one LOL allocation per day..

    I was going to float the idea of some sort of “you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours” deal over Washington and London, to be honest….

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    I love my cousins across the pond. You guys mangle the crap out of our common mother tongue (Americanish) but you do have superior sense of humor. Then again, you have to.

    Oh, and you still make the worlds best automobiles (even if they ARE German)..
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  171. @Stan d Mute
    And now you show why I gave you benefit of doubt in another comment reply. But I disagree with your last line here, these milk fed bubble wrapped snowflakes will never be convinced and it’s long past time that real men told them to STFU and MYOFB. Coddling and placating and pacifying is how we arrived here isn’t it?

    Well,

    I think those numbers are correct.

    And while I certainly understand the desire to tell liberals and a host of others just as note, theyare ell outside your sphere of influence, unless you are recognized in education your response will most likely confirm their worst suspicions and why they need to rest guns and nearly everything else from your grasp.

    A sound verbal flogging will have but temporary effect. But you could confront them with the numbers and an array of data refutes their advocacy. And there’s one other aspect of this would be effective. Discuss the attitudes, and behaviors with the system in which this occurred that is responsible.

    If there was ever a kid who needed the sensitivity they demand, why did they fail to use it with each other and with this young man, so outside their concern, he used a weapon for revenge. For all of the talk about diversity, caring, inclusion, anti-bullying, etc. these kids instead showed no care, no inclination of including, and at every opportunity engaged in bullying this troubled young man. Rejected by the “loving community they claim they want he sought out another means of expressing himself. The community including the students need to explain how they failed to provide a safe space for that young man. They need to explain why they created an unsafe place that resulted in reciprocity — he created unsafe spaces for them.

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    If there was ever a kid who needed the sensitivity they demand, why did they fail to use it with each other and with this young man, so outside their concern, he used a weapon for revenge.
     
    Indeed, and where was his half-black biological brother the whole time? The kid was special needs and had an IEP. Broward does have extensive help for IEP students who are mainstreamed, where were his OT and other helpers? He fell through literally every crack possible and then his single mom died leaving him completely lost. Total systemic failure is the root cause here. That on top of being mentally defective (either by DNA or fetal alcohol/drug poisoning) and raised by a single mom..
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  172. RodW says:
    @Harold Smith
    "Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for."

    So what exactly was the "constitutional amendment" "calling for"?

    The 2nd Amendment calls for “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

    Which doesn’t necessarily preclude “assault rifles”, since they hadn’t been invented then, but which also doesn’t include them, since they hadn’t been invented then.

    A big LOL at those people who think “assault” in “assault rifle” means the same thing as “fighting” or “combat”.

    Please note that I couldn’t care less whether Americans get to keep their guns or not since it doesn’t affect me. Also, I exercise my right to bear arms for self defense even if it involves breaking the law, and I’m currently exploring the possibility of becoming one of the very small band of people in Japan who legally own a gun. I simply make the case about assault rifles because I have a pedantic streak.

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    "Which doesn’t necessarily preclude “assault rifles”, since they hadn’t been invented then, but which also doesn’t include them, since they hadn’t been invented then."

    So you really have no meaningful idea of what "the amendment was calling for", and you're just trying to make some kind of a funny tautology out of it? I see.
    , @Stan d Mute

    Which doesn’t necessarily preclude “assault rifles”, since they hadn’t been invented then, but which also doesn’t include them, since they hadn’t been invented then.

    A big LOL at those people who think “assault” in “assault rifle” means the same thing as “fighting” or “combat”.
     
    The Framers used “arms” and not “guns” - they were nothing if not cautious about their language. Arms means just that and included the most advanced weapons in the world of the late 18th century. There is no reason to think otherwise and moreover their explicit intent was to delimit government power by ensuring the People could at any time overthrow the government. Let that sink in.

    The problem with “assault” is that our Constitution was shredded in the 1860’s and only a tiny minority even realizes it. So we are left to guard our words carefully lest the sheep scream at government to finish disarming the People.
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  173. I was going to say to John Derbyshire: Members of the next generation are getting regularly massacred, and you think people are unreasonably hysterical?

    But then I saw just how many commentators believe, or profess to believe, that these events are staged by “crisis actors”. And how little pushback they are getting.

    I guess I can understand how the right has managed to convince itself that global warming is not real, or not dangerous, or not proven, or not manmade. I consider that the single biggest delusion of the right; and just as belief in natural equality of all types of human being, is probably the biggest delusion of the left.

    But anyway, I find it hard to believe that the right will tolerate ‘school shooting skepticism’ (?!), the way it has come to embrace climate change skepticism.

    So unless your social and political goals only revolve around defending your own right to be a heavily armed survivalist, you – members of the Trump-era, revived nationalist right – need to come up with some gun philosophy that meets all your other concerns (ability to fight a tyrannical government? ability to defend against the marauding criminal classes?), *and* which does something to cut back on the number of mass murders carried out by psychos with guns.

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    I was going to say to John Derbyshire: Members of the next generation are getting regularly massacred, and you think people are unreasonably hysterical?
     
    I'm calling BS right here. There were FOUR TIMES more kids killed in schools in the 1990’s than today:

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/27/schools-safer-today-1990s-study-shootings-says/

    Derb is 100% correct.

    Any random kid has FAR higher chances of winning the Lottery and becoming a millionaire than he has of being killed at school.
    , @EliteCommInc.
    There are nearly 98, 000 public schools . 67,000 of those institutions are HS schools. The number of school shootings this year and last, stands at four. That’s roughly, 0.004081632653061225% of all schools in the US. If one simply considers HS that is 0.0166 . . .%. Looking at Florida school systems alone 2700 schools 0.148148 . . .%. From multiple perspectives, its a very small low percentage crime probably best dealt with at the local level.

    It does not like the previous generation is subject massacres as I think you suggest.

    Based on this website 7 children die a day from gunshots wounds. That's roughly 2555 deaths annually. Let's be generous and double that number -- making it 5110 deaths annually. The number of children in the US 1 - 17 years of age is about 74,000,000. The number of children who die resulting from gun violence 0.00690540540%. If I use the the actual average of 2555 that number drops to 0.003452702702%. In other words, 73, 994, 890 (million) kids will never experience even an injury from gun violence.

    Note: I used the 5110 number for the calculation, not the actual.


    That's hardly a sign that kids are being massacred.




    https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-the-numbers/
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  174. Richard86 says:

    I’m curious, what SE Asian country you are living in? It sounds nice.

    Thanks!

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  175. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous
    Neither gay marriage nor the trans revolution "OCCURRED."

    Both social revolutions were organized by elite interests and their "Cultural Marxist" cat's-paws in academia, Hollywood and the media for EXTRANEOUS reasons, along with the vigorous and Soros-financed campaigns to fully legalize marijuana and other psychotropic drugs.

    The aim is to undermine the structures of traditional society which remains the key force opposing an all-powerful government by a narrow and incestuous elite. NYT writers and their billionaire sponsors plan on being part of that elite, and on keeping you OUT. Can't key the hoi polloi spoil the party.

    Those personally affected clearly have valid personal interests. In the case of gay marriage, these interests properly elicit a great deal of sympathy from traditional, decent Americans.

    Nothing could be further from the concerns of "Cultural Marxists" than these humane and decent considerations. Marxists have openly advocated USING homosexuals and other marginal groups as a means to gain POWER since at least the 1920s.

    The bizarre campaign to impose trans-sexual bathroom "rights" is entirely cynical. Americans have forgotten what every illiterate Indian peasant remembers from thousands of years of human experience: that public bathrooms separated by sex were introduced to protect women from the ever-present risk of RAPE.

    Countless books about India have documented this, e.g. "Mother India" written by a female U.S. physician in the 1920s.

    Modern Americans have succumbed to the fatal misapprehension that human nature was suddenly transformed into pure light and sunshine in the 1960s.

    Neither gay marriage nor the trans revolution “OCCURRED.”

    I didn’t mean to imply that they were spontaneous social movements that reflected majority sentiment. You are quite correct that they were conscious social engineering campaigns carried out by dedicated and well funded minorities. I just meant that the actual transition was surprisingly rapid.

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  176. Mr. Anon says:
    @RodW
    Likening muskets to assault weapons is ahistorical. Muskets gradually evolved into long range rifles which were fixed with bayonets for assaults, i.e., fast, close-in combat.

    In WWII, the Russians and Germans developed a new category of weapon, the assault rifle, which wasn’t much use at long range but could shoot reasonably accurately at mid-range, and spray bullets lethally at short range, making bayonets largely obsolete.

    Today’s assault rifles have now become effective at long range too. But their heritage is not the musket. Their heritage is the WWII assault weapon.

    Those who claim that there’s no such thing as an assault rifle are either ignorant or dishonest. The same goes for those who claim that the AR was exactly what the constitutional amendment was calling for.

    In WWII, the Russians and Germans developed a new category of weapon, the assault rifle, which wasn’t much use at long range but could shoot reasonably accurately at mid-range, and spray bullets lethally at short range, making bayonets largely obsolete.

    The AR that you purchase at your friendly neighborhood gun store does not have the full-auto option that the M-16 had, or even the 3-round burst mode that its modern equivalent has. And what do you mean by “spray bullets leathally”. Bullets can be lethal if they hit, whether sprayed or fired after careful aim has been taken. For most of WWII, the US army used, as standard issue, a semi-automatic rifle: the M-1. And submachineguns, which could spray pistol ammunition, were in common use throughout the war.

    But their heritage is not the musket.

    Ahistorical nonsense. The 18th century smoothbore musket was the shoulder-arm used by european armies – it was the assault weapon of it’s day.

    The whole “but the founding fathers never imagined today’s technology” line could be used to argue against the 1st amendment too. They never imagined radio, television, or the internet. So is the whole freedom of the press / freedom of speech thing outmoded too?

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  177. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    What is lost on you as it is on many gun control advocates is weapons in America aren’t just for personal safety, hunting etc, it is a deterrent against a tyrannical government.
     
    Irrelevant, because it doesn't work, never has, never will. Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed "militia" in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.

    About 30 British citizens were included in the Branch Davidian residents of whom 28 died.

    The 25th anniversary is tomorrow and provides an excellent opportunity for we the people to reflect on the futility of armed resistance to US government authority within the territory of the US.

    The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done.

    Irrelevant, because it doesn’t work, never has, never will.

    Armed resistance to an ostensibly lawful government is the reason we have a country, so you are actually just wrong.

    The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done.

    Given that things are only getting worse on that score, the evidence indicates it can’t. In which case, all the political freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution are irrelevant as well. Since speaking, politicking, and voting actually accomplish nothing, I suppose you would be cool if those rights were taken away too?

    And comparing the branch davidians – an armed doomsday cult – to an actual armed rebellion is ridiculous and a rather feeble argument.

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  178. Mr. Anon says:
    @ChrisD
    David Hogg is a paid actor who was brought in to Parkland to spin the anti-gun narrative. The false claims made by CNN and others that the guy is simply a 'regular student' have been debunked with evidence coming out that CNN coached him and gave him scripted lines, and the fact Hogg has a talent agent contracted.

    The fact Hogg and others claim there was a single lone 'crazy' shooter also doesn't gel with earlier eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters in police armour and helmets.

    The fact Hogg and others claim there was a single lone ‘crazy’ shooter also doesn’t gel with earlier eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters in police armour and helmets.

    Which eyewitness accounts were those? I always see people saying that (multiple shooters), but never see any credible evidence that can’t just be chalked up to the general poor quality of a lot of people’s powers of observation. Can you offer actual evidence, or is just the usual conspiratard ranting?

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    Pro-media suckers now shout it:
    "Trust the media! Don't think about it!"
    Please click on this link;
    It may change how you think.
    But if you're a Libtard, I doubt it.

    https://archive.fo/pbKJd

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  179. Mr. Anon says:
    @anarchyst
    Not true...
    Hogg graduated two years ago from a school in California. He is a crisis actor receiving his "15 minutes of fame"..

    Hogg graduated two years ago from a school in California. He is a crisis actor receiving his “15 minutes of fame”..

    No, he was enrolled at a school in California. That isn’t the same as graduating. People move. It’s perfectly possible for somebody to be enrolled at a high-school in California two years ago, and still be a senior in a Florida high-school today. Do you have proof of your contention?

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  180. Mr. Anon says:
    @Harold Smith
    Is the "official story" falling apart already? Perhaps it is supposed to fall apart?

    Supposedly teacher "Stacy Lippel" described "the" shooter thusly: "he’s in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I’ve never seen before."

    So he had the rifle (an AR-15 that Lippel's never seen before?), ammo and all that gear in some kind of a duffel bag?

    According to NBC (apparently referring to something the jew sheriff said, but without quotation marks):

    "Within barely two minutes of being dropped off, Cruz started firing into four classrooms in Building 12, returning to two of them to shoot again, Israel said.

    Cruz then went upstairs to the second floor, where he shot one of his victims, before proceeding to the third floor, where he ditched his rifle and backpack, Israel said.

    He then ran down the stairs and outside, where he blended in with hundreds of terrified students — many of them his former classmates — and eluded officers as he left campus, Israel said.

    Amid the chaos he'd left behind at the school, Cruz made his way to a Walmart store, bought a drink at its Subway restaurant and walked away again, Israel said."

    Then the NBC article goes on to state: "Contrary to some media reports that Cruz may have been wearing a gas mask or some sort of tactical or bulletproof vest, Israel said he didn't believe that was true." (Again apparently referring to something the jew sheriff said, but no quotation marks).

    This is reminiscent of the Sandy Hook hoax where misleading and contradictory information was disseminated, apparently as a calculated part of the psyop.

    Supposedly teacher “Stacy Lippel” described “the” shooter thusly: “he’s in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I’ve never seen before.”

    Is there any reason to believe that a high-school teacher in Broward County named “Stacy” would actually know what actual military garb looks like? Or that she got a really good, careful look at somebody who was shooting a rifle in her building?

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    She wouldn't be expected to know what a "helmet" is, or a "face mask" or "bulletproof (body) armor" is? Seriously?
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  181. mcohen says:

    The problem with school shootings is you never know which school is next.i warned on this site in january that school shootings are a result of young people being weaponized.vulnerable are mental health issues and prescribed drugs and violent video games and porn videos.
    I noted that nobody responded so i assumed that it was yesterday’s news.yes.

    Yesterday’s news

    Here is my post from jan 22

    mcohen says:

    January 22, 2018 at 10:27 am GMT • 300 Words

    If you are taking medication that effects the brain especially anti depressants and anti psychotic drugs do not under any circumstances look at internet porn images or videos that are not normally available to the general population.especially child porn and violent images of a sexual nature.the combination of the 2 can lead to you being manipulated and weaponized into committing serious crimes like mass murder.
    many of the school shooters were on these medications and also accessing porn and violent games linked to the internet.
    The las vegas shooter was one such individual.

    Here are several more

    Kip Kinkel was withdrawing from Prozac and had been prescribed Ritalin when he murdered his mother and stepfather then shot 22 classmates, killing two, in 1998.Christopher Pittman was withdrawing from Luvox and from Paxil when he killed his paternal grandparents in 2001.Elizabeth Bush, who fired at fellow students in Williamsport, Pa., in 2001, wounding one, was on Prozac.Jason Hoffman, was on Effexor and Celexa when he opened fire at his El Cajon, Calif., high school, wounding five.Shawn Cooper of Notus, Idaho, was on antidepressants when he fired a shotgun on students and staff.T.J. Solomon, on antidepressants, wounded six at his Conyers, Ga., high school.Eric Harris was taking Luvox when he and fellow student Dylan Klebold killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 24 others before turning their guns on themselves at Columbine High School in Colorado.At Virginia Tech in 2007, where 32 were murdered, authorities found “prescription medications related to the treatment of psychological problems had been found among Mr. Cho’s effects,” according to the New York Times

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  182. mcohen says:

    To continue this occured on the 23 jan

    23 January: Marshall County High School, Benton, Kentucky – A 15-year-old student opened fire with a handgun on school grounds, killing two and injuring 18.

    And then this

    14 February: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Parkland, Florida – A 19-year-old former student opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle, killing 17 and injuring 14.

    So what might be the connection between the 2 be

    The difference in the casualty numbers.both suspects were captured within the hour

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  183. @Stan d Mute

    How much would you charge to burn DC? Maybe we could crowdfund it.
     
    Well it would be doomed to fail if we can’t get them to stop spending half the day drinking tea, eating crumpets, and mangling Americanish.

    Between you and @randal and your hilarious one liners I can retire saddened only that I get but one LOL allocation per day..

    Thanks, Stan. It’s probably a good thing that I only get to hang one tag per hour, or I’d just tag and move along without commenting on some threads. Maybe some day we’ll have a “shill” tag for the ones like little miss Demi.

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    Wait, what? You get one per HOUR? Where’s Ron? Over 1000 comments and 160,000 words just 2014-present (dunno what happened to earlier - I was commenting at least back to ‘10 but became regular when Sailer moved here). Why am I the black sheep? Or are you special?
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  184. @Mr. Anon

    The fact Hogg and others claim there was a single lone ‘crazy’ shooter also doesn’t gel with earlier eyewitness accounts of multiple shooters in police armour and helmets.
     
    Which eyewitness accounts were those? I always see people saying that (multiple shooters), but never see any credible evidence that can't just be chalked up to the general poor quality of a lot of people's powers of observation. Can you offer actual evidence, or is just the usual conspiratard ranting?

    Pro-media suckers now shout it:
    “Trust the media! Don’t think about it!”
    Please click on this link;
    It may change how you think.
    But if you’re a Libtard, I doubt it.

    https://archive.fo/pbKJd

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  185. @RodW
    The 2nd Amendment calls for "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    Which doesn't necessarily preclude "assault rifles", since they hadn't been invented then, but which also doesn't include them, since they hadn't been invented then.

    A big LOL at those people who think "assault" in "assault rifle" means the same thing as "fighting" or "combat".

    Please note that I couldn't care less whether Americans get to keep their guns or not since it doesn't affect me. Also, I exercise my right to bear arms for self defense even if it involves breaking the law, and I'm currently exploring the possibility of becoming one of the very small band of people in Japan who legally own a gun. I simply make the case about assault rifles because I have a pedantic streak.

    “Which doesn’t necessarily preclude “assault rifles”, since they hadn’t been invented then, but which also doesn’t include them, since they hadn’t been invented then.”

    So you really have no meaningful idea of what “the amendment was calling for”, and you’re just trying to make some kind of a funny tautology out of it? I see.

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    So you really have no meaningful idea of what “the amendment was calling for”, and you’re just trying to make some kind of a funny tautology out of it? I see.
     
    Hardly, you’re just obtuse. The entire and explicit intent of our Framers, made crystal clear in the Constitution and Federalist Papers was to delimit government Power. The Constitution is a statement of what government is permitted to do. The Bill of Rights was added because some were concerned that some moron still may not get it and so further delimited government. 2A was explicitly intended to place military “arms” in the hands and control of the People. The Constitution did not permit a standing army. So Government was intended to be defenseless with the People able to overthrow it at any time it failed to heed our will.

    All that was shredded in the 1860’s when the government decided it had some imaginary right to force free States (and People) to remain in its “Union” despite 10A explicitly saying otherwise.

    The Framers would today have an F-22 Raptor in every driveway and I assure you Citizenship wouldn’t be given out like candy to retarded children.
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  186. @Mr. Anon

    Supposedly teacher “Stacy Lippel” described “the” shooter thusly: “he’s in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I’ve never seen before.”
     
    Is there any reason to believe that a high-school teacher in Broward County named "Stacy" would actually know what actual military garb looks like? Or that she got a really good, careful look at somebody who was shooting a rifle in her building?

    She wouldn’t be expected to know what a “helmet” is, or a “face mask” or “bulletproof (body) armor” is? Seriously?

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  187. @Harold Smith
    Is the "official story" falling apart already? Perhaps it is supposed to fall apart?

    Supposedly teacher "Stacy Lippel" described "the" shooter thusly: "he’s in full metal garb, helmet, face mask, bulletproof armor, shooting this rifle that I’ve never seen before."

    So he had the rifle (an AR-15 that Lippel's never seen before?), ammo and all that gear in some kind of a duffel bag?

    According to NBC (apparently referring to something the jew sheriff said, but without quotation marks):

    "Within barely two minutes of being dropped off, Cruz started firing into four classrooms in Building 12, returning to two of them to shoot again, Israel said.

    Cruz then went upstairs to the second floor, where he shot one of his victims, before proceeding to the third floor, where he ditched his rifle and backpack, Israel said.

    He then ran down the stairs and outside, where he blended in with hundreds of terrified students — many of them his former classmates — and eluded officers as he left campus, Israel said.

    Amid the chaos he'd left behind at the school, Cruz made his way to a Walmart store, bought a drink at its Subway restaurant and walked away again, Israel said."

    Then the NBC article goes on to state: "Contrary to some media reports that Cruz may have been wearing a gas mask or some sort of tactical or bulletproof vest, Israel said he didn't believe that was true." (Again apparently referring to something the jew sheriff said, but no quotation marks).

    This is reminiscent of the Sandy Hook hoax where misleading and contradictory information was disseminated, apparently as a calculated part of the psyop.

    I wonder: Why didn’t Cruz kill himself? Isn’t that how these kind of things are supposed to end?

    And for that matter how did he determine when it was time to stop shooting? A serious mass-murderer in that kind of situation would be carrying hundreds of rounds of ammo, wouldn’t he? If he wasn’t confronted by any cops, and he still had ammo, and there were still targets in the area, then why would he stop at some arbitrary point? Because he’s a “nut case”? Because he was thirsty and wanted a soda from Subway?

    And why ditch the rifle (which presumably had a serial number that could be quickly traced back to him)? Because he’s a “nut case”?

    Does any of this make sense? Is it all covered under the aegis of the “nut case” label?

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    Does any of this make sense? Is it all covered under the aegis of the “nut case” label?
     
    He wasn’t a “nut case” - he was retarded, a word I’m increasingly beginning to suspect you may have some familiarity with..
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  188. wayfarer says:

    Mr. Lawless, schools America’s unworldly and naive citizenry, on the molecular chemical structure of hyoscine.

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hyoscine

    …..

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    Hyoscine has been known since the late 1800’s. Midazolam is a newer and improved product in the benzodiazepines class. For anyone who’s had outpatient surgery, they’ve had midazolam and fentanyl. Fun combo - no pain and no memory. Less commonly known is flunitrazepam another and scarier perhaps benzo. And never forget sodium oxybate...

    Those who forget history will always be surprised when the media tries scaring us with something “New!”
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  189. Noah Way says:

    The only thing more sick than mass shootings at schools are the profiteers of the $16b gun industry accusing people of hysterics in a lame attempt to prevent restrictions that would cut into their profits.

    They are the real hysterics.

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    The U.S. "government" vehemently disagrees with you. According to the U.S. "government" there's nothing inherently wrong with senseless mass murder. The only thing that might cause a squabble is the issue of target selection.
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  190. @Noah Way
    The only thing more sick than mass shootings at schools are the profiteers of the $16b gun industry accusing people of hysterics in a lame attempt to prevent restrictions that would cut into their profits.

    They are the real hysterics.

    The U.S. “government” vehemently disagrees with you. According to the U.S. “government” there’s nothing inherently wrong with senseless mass murder. The only thing that might cause a squabble is the issue of target selection.

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  191. Warlord says:
    @El Dato
    But Mr. Trayvon got his bachelor's degree in aeronautical science at the end, so his engineering ability is not in question, at least.

    this_is_fine_dog.jpg

    Aeronautics? Not so much, but he sure loved getting high.

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  192. @ChuckOrloski
    Wisely, Mr. Derbyshire wrote: "My impression is that the U.S.A. is a much more hysterical country than it used to be. You can, in your imagination, conjure up the way particular human types will react to some public event."

    Z.U.S.A. citizens are hysterical (sick) due to decades of population shock treatments which culminate in a sinister conditioning program.

    At present experts, Corporate Media "Talking Heads," and war supportive-politicians seek ways to make schools safe from mass murderers.

    And they want to make the "Sheeple" figure that psycho murderers of school children lack imagination and will not think "out of the sandbox."

    Yup... soon as interior school buildings are fortified like Attica, the "insane" will not look to areas exterior to building-spaces as prospective student-killing scenes!

    No, no! Upholding State-of-art Amerikan school safety will have no need to resemble "Stalag 13," including exterior checkpoint gates, armed-lookout towers, et al.

    No clear thinking "nut" will take up shooting position within distance of a school parking lot, right? No revenge shots taken at bully "jocks" competing at high school football fields! Right?

    Yup, our studies provide evidence how student killers are conditioned, "they'll stick-to-the-script."

    But a "heads up" school maintenance man, one who routinely carries garbage bags outside for disposal into a hopper, might pause to look around during an outdoor "fire drill" proceeding, and say to self, "Oh man, it looks like all the kids & teachers reacted on-time & are safe now!"

    And they want to make the “Sheeple” figure that psycho murderers of school children lack imagination and will not think “out of the sandbox.”

    Yup… soon as interior school buildings are fortified like Attica, the “insane” will not look to areas exterior to building-spaces as prospective student-killing scenes!

    I know Parkland/Coral Springs very well and one of the parents did an interview with extremely cogent point. After school hundreds of kids walk down the sidewalk past the Walmart and across Coral Ridge to the McD’s and other hangouts, all of them staring at their iPhones oblivious to anything around them. I won’t finish the thought, but I found the video:

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    Thanks Stan d mule for reinforcing my point (including a parent's take on video) about myopic focus upon simply fortifying shool INTERIOR space and arming teachers as panacea.
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  193. @Randal
    I was going to float the idea of some sort of "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" deal over Washington and London, to be honest....

    I love my cousins across the pond. You guys mangle the crap out of our common mother tongue (Americanish) but you do have superior sense of humor. Then again, you have to.

    Oh, and you still make the worlds best automobiles (even if they ARE German)..

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  194. @EliteCommInc.
    Well,

    I think those numbers are correct.

    And while I certainly understand the desire to tell liberals and a host of others just as note, theyare ell outside your sphere of influence, unless you are recognized in education your response will most likely confirm their worst suspicions and why they need to rest guns and nearly everything else from your grasp.

    A sound verbal flogging will have but temporary effect. But you could confront them with the numbers and an array of data refutes their advocacy. And there's one other aspect of this would be effective. Discuss the attitudes, and behaviors with the system in which this occurred that is responsible.

    If there was ever a kid who needed the sensitivity they demand, why did they fail to use it with each other and with this young man, so outside their concern, he used a weapon for revenge. For all of the talk about diversity, caring, inclusion, anti-bullying, etc. these kids instead showed no care, no inclination of including, and at every opportunity engaged in bullying this troubled young man. Rejected by the "loving community they claim they want he sought out another means of expressing himself. The community including the students need to explain how they failed to provide a safe space for that young man. They need to explain why they created an unsafe place that resulted in reciprocity -- he created unsafe spaces for them.

    If there was ever a kid who needed the sensitivity they demand, why did they fail to use it with each other and with this young man, so outside their concern, he used a weapon for revenge.

    Indeed, and where was his half-black biological brother the whole time? The kid was special needs and had an IEP. Broward does have extensive help for IEP students who are mainstreamed, where were his OT and other helpers? He fell through literally every crack possible and then his single mom died leaving him completely lost. Total systemic failure is the root cause here. That on top of being mentally defective (either by DNA or fetal alcohol/drug poisoning) and raised by a single mom..

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    You have just reinforced my point --


    This is a local matter and by all accounts a local failure. Not that of the NRA or anyone who supports private gun ownership.
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  195. @RodW
    The 2nd Amendment calls for "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    Which doesn't necessarily preclude "assault rifles", since they hadn't been invented then, but which also doesn't include them, since they hadn't been invented then.

    A big LOL at those people who think "assault" in "assault rifle" means the same thing as "fighting" or "combat".

    Please note that I couldn't care less whether Americans get to keep their guns or not since it doesn't affect me. Also, I exercise my right to bear arms for self defense even if it involves breaking the law, and I'm currently exploring the possibility of becoming one of the very small band of people in Japan who legally own a gun. I simply make the case about assault rifles because I have a pedantic streak.

    Which doesn’t necessarily preclude “assault rifles”, since they hadn’t been invented then, but which also doesn’t include them, since they hadn’t been invented then.

    A big LOL at those people who think “assault” in “assault rifle” means the same thing as “fighting” or “combat”.

    The Framers used “arms” and not “guns” – they were nothing if not cautious about their language. Arms means just that and included the most advanced weapons in the world of the late 18th century. There is no reason to think otherwise and moreover their explicit intent was to delimit government power by ensuring the People could at any time overthrow the government. Let that sink in.

    The problem with “assault” is that our Constitution was shredded in the 1860’s and only a tiny minority even realizes it. So we are left to guard our words carefully lest the sheep scream at government to finish disarming the People.

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  196. @Mitchell Porter
    I was going to say to John Derbyshire: Members of the next generation are getting regularly massacred, and you think people are unreasonably hysterical?

    But then I saw just how many commentators believe, or profess to believe, that these events are staged by "crisis actors". And how little pushback they are getting.

    I guess I can understand how the right has managed to convince itself that global warming is not real, or not dangerous, or not proven, or not manmade. I consider that the single biggest delusion of the right; and just as belief in natural equality of all types of human being, is probably the biggest delusion of the left.

    But anyway, I find it hard to believe that the right will tolerate 'school shooting skepticism' (?!), the way it has come to embrace climate change skepticism.

    So unless your social and political goals only revolve around defending your own right to be a heavily armed survivalist, you - members of the Trump-era, revived nationalist right - need to come up with some gun philosophy that meets all your other concerns (ability to fight a tyrannical government? ability to defend against the marauding criminal classes?), *and* which does something to cut back on the number of mass murders carried out by psychos with guns.

    I was going to say to John Derbyshire: Members of the next generation are getting regularly massacred, and you think people are unreasonably hysterical?

    I’m calling BS right here. There were FOUR TIMES more kids killed in schools in the 1990’s than today:

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/27/schools-safer-today-1990s-study-shootings-says/

    Derb is 100% correct.

    Any random kid has FAR higher chances of winning the Lottery and becoming a millionaire than he has of being killed at school.

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  197. The leftist maniacs have declared us to be, and view us as their “enemies”. And how do we respond : By trying to reason with them and to “get along” with them.
    Meaning we non-leftists have been boxed in and intimidated into a corner from which the only excape, like it or not, is adoptation of their underhanded tactics.
    Sort of like trying to fight “fair” when your opponent is kicking you in the gonads.
    So how do we counter their dirty-trick warfare : First step, and nobody takes me serious with approach : Wrest the bludgeon of “racism” away from and start hurling it back at them : I would advice DT to begin each and every tweet with the following : “To the racist Democrats, founders of the KKK” And hit them with this relentlessly, and it will begin to change to the game plan in miraculous manner.
    I realize that this sounds wacky and trivial however it works for them, as it is their most potent weapon.

    AJM

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  198. @Twodees Partain
    Thanks, Stan. It's probably a good thing that I only get to hang one tag per hour, or I'd just tag and move along without commenting on some threads. Maybe some day we'll have a "shill" tag for the ones like little miss Demi.

    Wait, what? You get one per HOUR? Where’s Ron? Over 1000 comments and 160,000 words just 2014-present (dunno what happened to earlier – I was commenting at least back to ‘10 but became regular when Sailer moved here). Why am I the black sheep? Or are you special?

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    Click on the agree/disagree button and read the text inside referring to the use of label buttons. It's one per hour.
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  199. @Stan d Mute

    If there was ever a kid who needed the sensitivity they demand, why did they fail to use it with each other and with this young man, so outside their concern, he used a weapon for revenge.
     
    Indeed, and where was his half-black biological brother the whole time? The kid was special needs and had an IEP. Broward does have extensive help for IEP students who are mainstreamed, where were his OT and other helpers? He fell through literally every crack possible and then his single mom died leaving him completely lost. Total systemic failure is the root cause here. That on top of being mentally defective (either by DNA or fetal alcohol/drug poisoning) and raised by a single mom..

    You have just reinforced my point –

    This is a local matter and by all accounts a local failure. Not that of the NRA or anyone who supports private gun ownership.

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    Caveat: local, regional and state private gun owners might want to examine how such a troubled young man got access. But again, this is a local matter.
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  200. @Harold Smith
    "Which doesn’t necessarily preclude “assault rifles”, since they hadn’t been invented then, but which also doesn’t include them, since they hadn’t been invented then."

    So you really have no meaningful idea of what "the amendment was calling for", and you're just trying to make some kind of a funny tautology out of it? I see.

    So you really have no meaningful idea of what “the amendment was calling for”, and you’re just trying to make some kind of a funny tautology out of it? I see.

    Hardly, you’re just obtuse. The entire and explicit intent of our Framers, made crystal clear in the Constitution and Federalist Papers was to delimit government Power. The Constitution is a statement of what government is permitted to do. The Bill of Rights was added because some were concerned that some moron still may not get it and so further delimited government. 2A was explicitly intended to place military “arms” in the hands and control of the People. The Constitution did not permit a standing army. So Government was intended to be defenseless with the People able to overthrow it at any time it failed to heed our will.

    All that was shredded in the 1860’s when the government decided it had some imaginary right to force free States (and People) to remain in its “Union” despite 10A explicitly saying otherwise.

    The Framers would today have an F-22 Raptor in every driveway and I assure you Citizenship wouldn’t be given out like candy to retarded children.

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    "Hardly, you’re just obtuse. The entire and explicit intent of our Framers, made crystal clear in the Constitution and Federalist Papers was to delimit government Power. The Constitution is a statement of what government is permitted to do."

    Since I wasn't the one who made the meaningless statement (reflecting intellectual dishonesty or ignorance of the constitution) in the first place, why tell me that, goofball?
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  201. @Mitchell Porter
    I was going to say to John Derbyshire: Members of the next generation are getting regularly massacred, and you think people are unreasonably hysterical?

    But then I saw just how many commentators believe, or profess to believe, that these events are staged by "crisis actors". And how little pushback they are getting.

    I guess I can understand how the right has managed to convince itself that global warming is not real, or not dangerous, or not proven, or not manmade. I consider that the single biggest delusion of the right; and just as belief in natural equality of all types of human being, is probably the biggest delusion of the left.

    But anyway, I find it hard to believe that the right will tolerate 'school shooting skepticism' (?!), the way it has come to embrace climate change skepticism.

    So unless your social and political goals only revolve around defending your own right to be a heavily armed survivalist, you - members of the Trump-era, revived nationalist right - need to come up with some gun philosophy that meets all your other concerns (ability to fight a tyrannical government? ability to defend against the marauding criminal classes?), *and* which does something to cut back on the number of mass murders carried out by psychos with guns.

    There are nearly 98, 000 public schools . 67,000 of those institutions are HS schools. The number of school shootings this year and last, stands at four. That’s roughly, 0.004081632653061225% of all schools in the US. If one simply considers HS that is 0.0166 . . .%. Looking at Florida school systems alone 2700 schools 0.148148 . . .%. From multiple perspectives, its a very small low percentage crime probably best dealt with at the local level.

    It does not like the previous generation is subject massacres as I think you suggest.

    Based on this website 7 children die a day from gunshots wounds. That’s roughly 2555 deaths annually. Let’s be generous and double that number — making it 5110 deaths annually. The number of children in the US 1 – 17 years of age is about 74,000,000. The number of children who die resulting from gun violence 0.00690540540%. If I use the the actual average of 2555 that number drops to 0.003452702702%. In other words, 73, 994, 890 (million) kids will never experience even an injury from gun violence.

    Note: I used the 5110 number for the calculation, not the actual.

    That’s hardly a sign that kids are being massacred.

    https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-the-numbers/

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  202. Sam J. says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    What is lost on you as it is on many gun control advocates is weapons in America aren’t just for personal safety, hunting etc, it is a deterrent against a tyrannical government.
     
    Irrelevant, because it doesn't work, never has, never will. Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed "militia" in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.

    About 30 British citizens were included in the Branch Davidian residents of whom 28 died.

    The 25th anniversary is tomorrow and provides an excellent opportunity for we the people to reflect on the futility of armed resistance to US government authority within the territory of the US.

    The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done.

    “…Irrelevant, because it doesn’t work, never has, never will. Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed “militia” in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition…”

    Actually it did work. The fed’s slowed down their assaults on various fringe groups after that.

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  203. @EliteCommInc.
    You have just reinforced my point --


    This is a local matter and by all accounts a local failure. Not that of the NRA or anyone who supports private gun ownership.

    Caveat: local, regional and state private gun owners might want to examine how such a troubled young man got access. But again, this is a local matter.

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  204. @Harold Smith
    I wonder: Why didn't Cruz kill himself? Isn't that how these kind of things are supposed to end?

    And for that matter how did he determine when it was time to stop shooting? A serious mass-murderer in that kind of situation would be carrying hundreds of rounds of ammo, wouldn't he? If he wasn't confronted by any cops, and he still had ammo, and there were still targets in the area, then why would he stop at some arbitrary point? Because he's a "nut case"? Because he was thirsty and wanted a soda from Subway?

    And why ditch the rifle (which presumably had a serial number that could be quickly traced back to him)? Because he's a "nut case"?

    Does any of this make sense? Is it all covered under the aegis of the "nut case" label?

    Does any of this make sense? Is it all covered under the aegis of the “nut case” label?

    He wasn’t a “nut case” – he was retarded, a word I’m increasingly beginning to suspect you may have some familiarity with..

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    "He wasn’t a “nut case” – he was retarded, a word I’m increasingly beginning to suspect you may have some familiarity with."

    Well I seem to encounter "retards" such as yourself quire frequently", goofball, so yes, I am familiar with the word.
    , @Harold Smith
    "Since the massacre unfolded, people who knew Cruz have painted him as a 'crazy' loner who was 'obsessed with guns'."

    "He was crazy because he liked to kill small things, like little animals - frogs and other animals like that and he just had a crazy mind. He was racist and he was just crazy,' one student told 10ABC News."

    http://www.ladbible.com/news/news-florida-school-shooting-suspect-could-face-the-death-penalty-20180215
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  205. @wayfarer
    Mr. Lawless, schools America's unworldly and naive citizenry, on the molecular chemical structure of hyoscine.

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hyoscine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOaJvPWzJ9I

    .....

    Hyoscine has been known since the late 1800’s. Midazolam is a newer and improved product in the benzodiazepines class. For anyone who’s had outpatient surgery, they’ve had midazolam and fentanyl. Fun combo – no pain and no memory. Less commonly known is flunitrazepam another and scarier perhaps benzo. And never forget sodium oxybate…

    Those who forget history will always be surprised when the media tries scaring us with something “New!”

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    I guess from primitive hypnosis to advanced MK-Ultra techniques, mind control tools are readily available for those who wish to create disposable cold-blooded false-flag assassins.
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  206. MarkinPNW says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    also silencers for the librarians.
     
    LOL

    Yup. The real budget buster when it come to arming teachers and staff!

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  207. @Stan d Mute

    Does any of this make sense? Is it all covered under the aegis of the “nut case” label?
     
    He wasn’t a “nut case” - he was retarded, a word I’m increasingly beginning to suspect you may have some familiarity with..

    “He wasn’t a “nut case” – he was retarded, a word I’m increasingly beginning to suspect you may have some familiarity with.”

    Well I seem to encounter “retards” such as yourself quire frequently”, goofball, so yes, I am familiar with the word.

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  208. @Stan d Mute

    So you really have no meaningful idea of what “the amendment was calling for”, and you’re just trying to make some kind of a funny tautology out of it? I see.
     
    Hardly, you’re just obtuse. The entire and explicit intent of our Framers, made crystal clear in the Constitution and Federalist Papers was to delimit government Power. The Constitution is a statement of what government is permitted to do. The Bill of Rights was added because some were concerned that some moron still may not get it and so further delimited government. 2A was explicitly intended to place military “arms” in the hands and control of the People. The Constitution did not permit a standing army. So Government was intended to be defenseless with the People able to overthrow it at any time it failed to heed our will.

    All that was shredded in the 1860’s when the government decided it had some imaginary right to force free States (and People) to remain in its “Union” despite 10A explicitly saying otherwise.

    The Framers would today have an F-22 Raptor in every driveway and I assure you Citizenship wouldn’t be given out like candy to retarded children.

    “Hardly, you’re just obtuse. The entire and explicit intent of our Framers, made crystal clear in the Constitution and Federalist Papers was to delimit government Power. The Constitution is a statement of what government is permitted to do.”

    Since I wasn’t the one who made the meaningless statement (reflecting intellectual dishonesty or ignorance of the constitution) in the first place, why tell me that, goofball?

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  209. @Stan d Mute

    Does any of this make sense? Is it all covered under the aegis of the “nut case” label?
     
    He wasn’t a “nut case” - he was retarded, a word I’m increasingly beginning to suspect you may have some familiarity with..

    “Since the massacre unfolded, people who knew Cruz have painted him as a ‘crazy’ loner who was ‘obsessed with guns’.”

    “He was crazy because he liked to kill small things, like little animals – frogs and other animals like that and he just had a crazy mind. He was racist and he was just crazy,’ one student told 10ABC News.”

    http://www.ladbible.com/news/news-florida-school-shooting-suspect-could-face-the-death-penalty-20180215

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    He was racist and he was just crazy,’ one student told 10ABC News.”
     
    Proving yet again, you can’t trust the MSM. He sure doesn’t look “racist” standing next to his biological & adopted brother the mulatto:

    https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/photo-shows-accused-florida-gunman-his-brother-holding-moms-ashes/
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  210. wayfarer says:
    @Stan d Mute
    Hyoscine has been known since the late 1800’s. Midazolam is a newer and improved product in the benzodiazepines class. For anyone who’s had outpatient surgery, they’ve had midazolam and fentanyl. Fun combo - no pain and no memory. Less commonly known is flunitrazepam another and scarier perhaps benzo. And never forget sodium oxybate...

    Those who forget history will always be surprised when the media tries scaring us with something “New!”

    I guess from primitive hypnosis to advanced MK-Ultra techniques, mind control tools are readily available for those who wish to create disposable cold-blooded false-flag assassins.

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    I guess from primitive hypnosis to advanced MK-Ultra techniques, mind control tools are readily available for those who wish to create disposable cold-blooded false-flag assassins.
     
    Oh absolutely! But why go to the trouble when you have such a vast supply of mentally defective young men raised by single moms and doped to the gills on SSRIs and SSNRIs or GABA/Pregabalin? Who even needs the benzodiazepines or more exotic stuff like sodium oxybate or the myriad “research chemicals” and tryptamine?
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  211. wayfarer says:

    Good news is rare these days, and every glittering ounce of it should be cherished and hoarded and worshiped and fondled like a priceless diamond. – Hunter S. Thompson

    Ghetto Gun Control, LLC. a subdivision of Black Market Inc.

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    Say Wayfarer, if that video contains good news Mr Thompson would surely be surprised.
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  212. @Stan d Mute

    If the guns were to ever get mostly banned, in the manner of England and Australia, there is NO going back from that. The country is toast. I mean, if it ain’t already.
     
    We are well on our way aren’t we. We’ve accepted that 2A “keep and bear ARMS” which encompassed state of the art military hardware only means “semi-auto pistols and rifles” haven’t we? About our only salvation now is the fact that our combat troops, pilots, and vets are overwhelmingly white males from the Midwest and South. But that safeguard is under fierce attack to replace them with trannies, queers, women, and diversities with criminal records. Ever wonder why?

    They can’t disarm us now and it frustrates the hell out of them. We’ve allowed them to invade and take over our culture, education of our children, but the real Power continues to reside in the fact that we remain armed (such as we are) and control food production. We are the kulaks. And all that prevents us from the kulaks fate is our hold on combat infantry and piloting. We are on the precipice.

    If you’re still reading, Stan, great comments that include about all the correct arguments about Americans, the 2nd Amendment and guns. Also, you too, Svigor.

    I don’t have the time and patience to agrue with those on here who don’t get these points. As I wrote way earlier, some on here just have nothing but their emotions to go on. They should not be voting – that is NOT working out.

    One more thing, though, Stan: As much as I agree with you, I implore you to avoid arguing so vehemently about the small details. I also don’t want to let errors slide, but keep in mind that the people that you are getting upset with (at least it reads so) about the Garand vs. ___ and such, ARE ON YOUR SIDE!. Man, you’ve got to let the little stuff slide, or you’ll have no friends, even those who should be.

    OK, one more thing after that. I think the education of our children is JUST as important as keeping our guns. Why? There will be no clear-thinking people left that do understand why me must be armed against the continually encroached Feral beast, if we don’t teach the little one right from wrong. Now, if I blog in support of homeschooling, per here, here, and here, will you get in a heated argument over which curriculum to use? Again, we are on the same side.

    Keep up the great writing, Stan and Svigor!

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    All good advice, thank you.
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  213. @Demi
    El Dato,
    If you do not know by now, David Hogg is a Parkland student and along with Emma Gonzales . They were branded 'crisis actors' in a photo that went viral. It was false. They are students. They were in the school during all 4 minutes of gunfire. Those 4 minutes while a sheriff's deputy sat outside and failed his duty by not entering the building to stop the violence.

    Videos were created and manipulated by those with ill-intentions leading others to view them as fact. How sick is that. Now facebook and you tube are trying to remove these videos. We should applaud this socially responsible activity by facebook and you tube.

    And to Mr. Derbyshire: Your characterizations of hysterical social reactions are offensive. Maybe we need some hysteria to get our intractable officials to take action. "The NRA was perfectly respectable until this week". No, the NRA has not been perfectly respectable. The NRA protects the rights of citizens to buy military grade assault rifles, that are sold at gun shows.

    I was following this site but after this article and Mr Unz approval of the below comment, I think not.
    Attacking victims is not okay, but hey, it is all free speech.

    This is no law which prevents a student from being a crisis actor. The sooner children become crisis actors the better. If a sheriff’s deputy does nothing when nothing happens is that a crime? Of course it is in a totalitarian state.

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  214. @Stan d Mute

    Nope: it was the RCN who helped us to win the Battle of the Atlantic.
     
    Dammit, I wasted my one daily LOL on the post above. Wasn’t it the RCAF? All 73 of their total fighter planes? All 391 of their total aircraft including trainers? Or maybe you are correct and it was their aircraft carriers? Oh wait, they have NONE. Maybe then their vast fleet of 28 total ships? Pretty sure it wasn’t their submarines...

    LOL. Canada is a Monty Python skit writ large.

    The RCAF died a “quiet” death circa 1970 when the air force, army and navy were integrated into the Canadian Defence Force and the former British style uniforms were abandoned for a one uniform fits all services. I do not think morale of the troops has ever been high on the worry list of their leaders.

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    Wait, did you just write Canadian Defense Farce? Or is that my eyes doing auto-correct for me?

    Keep that Maple Leaf flying proudly! And put a hijab on that PM! Eh?

    Right on, crack a Molson, pull your took down tight eh, and go fight off the mooses. As a Detroiter I love my neighbors to the South in Canada..
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  215. @wayfarer

    Good news is rare these days, and every glittering ounce of it should be cherished and hoarded and worshiped and fondled like a priceless diamond. – Hunter S. Thompson
     
    Ghetto Gun Control, LLC. a subdivision of Black Market Inc.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU38QDKmiTk

    Say Wayfarer, if that video contains good news Mr Thompson would surely be surprised.

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    That video surely contains bad news, real bad news.

    It seems only a matter of time now, before America hits the shit.

    As a ticked-off patriot living in Yuma Arizona, who qualified expert-rifle and sharpshooter-pistol in the USCG, I pack a loaded semi-auto handgun.

    Don't lock my trailer door at night, and although I live in a sketchy part of town, I do sleep soundly.

    I'm not looking for trouble, but if and when it comes looking for me, it will regret the day it was born.

    “Semper Paratus!”

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marksmanship_Medal

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  216. @Jonathan Mason

    What is lost on you as it is on many gun control advocates is weapons in America aren’t just for personal safety, hunting etc, it is a deterrent against a tyrannical government.
     
    Irrelevant, because it doesn't work, never has, never will. Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed "militia" in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.

    About 30 British citizens were included in the Branch Davidian residents of whom 28 died.

    The 25th anniversary is tomorrow and provides an excellent opportunity for we the people to reflect on the futility of armed resistance to US government authority within the territory of the US.

    The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done.

    JM, you may have your detractors but I believe you are essentially correct. The combined assets of government forces including nationalized reserves would be able to quickly overwhelm even the most organized militia which would lack sophisticated weapons including attack helicopters , fighter aircraft, a multitude of short and long range artillery and mortars , heavy machine guns, yes even napalm. The government forces would have logistics and resupply capability the militia could only dream of. The only hope the American people could entertain would be if the uniformed services would rebel against their leaders. Having said all that I do not see government action of this type happening in America unless social and economic conditions come to such a boiling point that anarchy ensues. God help all of us then.

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    JM, you may have your detractors but I believe you are essentially correct. The combined assets of government forces including nationalized reserves would be able to quickly overwhelm even the most organized militia which would lack sophisticated weapons including attack helicopters , fighter aircraft, a multitude of short and long range artillery and mortars , heavy machine guns, yes even napalm
     
    Tell the truth, you teed that up for me didn’t you?

    Our Constitution authorizes Government to raise an Army for War. Ever read it? Prohibited was a “standing army”. Again, all Power was to reside in the States and ultimately the People. We The People were supposed to have state of the art “arms” to tyrannize the government. Government was to fear US. Lincoln shredded all of it.

    Astonishing really how it is today the exact polar opposite of what the Framers explicitly intended.
    , @Joe Stalin
    peterAUS has talked about militia training to better utilize civilian combat power against "sophisticated weapons including attack helicopters , fighter aircraft, a multitude of short and long range artillery and mortars , heavy machine guns, yes even napalm."

    A little bit of training goes a LONG way in equalizing opposing forces; in "Shock of the Mundane: The Dangerous Diffusion of Basic Infantry Tactics,"

    "We do, however, argue that the marginal improvement of tactical prowess in violent non-state groups may lead to outcomes that have strategic implications for global U.S. counter-terrorist and counter-insurgent operations in two other ways. First, it will make it more likely that violent non-state groups will be able to more frequently impose casualties on and overmatch small, isolated U.S. elements, as occurred in the tragic Niger ambush of October 2017."

    "Is there evidence that the bad guys are getting better at basic tactics? Yes. Consider Boko Haram. Having only launched its military campaign in 2009, it has already mastered the use of coordinated fire and maneuver elements at the tactical level to execute complex raids, ambushes, assaults, and even withdrawing by echelon when on the defensive. It even staged an amphibious assault that overran a Nigerien Army garrison on an island in Lake Chad. Another example is from much closer to the U.S. homeland. Utilizing tactics diffused through U.S. military training, drug cartels such as the infamous “Zetas” and “Jalisco New Generation” have institutionalized combat training that allows them to regularly wreak havoc on Mexican security forces. In the wake of a recent downing of a Mexican military helicopter through the employment of rocket-propelled grenades, the disturbing discovery was made of tactical gear emblazoned with “CJNG – High Command Special Forces” (Cartel de Jalisco Nueva Generacion). Further evidence comes from the Iraqi campaign to defeat ISIL. Conventional forces struggled mightily to eject ISIL from Iraq’s territory, and only succeeded due to the heavy use of Iraqi special operations forces and liberal American airpower. The battle of Mosul, for example, lasted for nine months despite significant material U.S. support and a 20:1 force ratio against the ISIL defenders. Afghan conventional military forces are often defeated by an increasingly competent Taliban. On the other side of the world, Filipino forces had to destroy much of the town of Marawi to liberate it from jihadist insurgents during a five-month siege last year. Furthermore, these enemies seem to be gravitating towards operations in urban areas. These environments hinder the United States and its partners from utilizing their high-tech advantages, resulting in a playing field that could get ever more level. Finally, given the ease with which such groups can infiltrate poorly vetted partner forces, the U.S. military has probably provided tactical instruction to the enemy directly and indirectly for a long time. As one U.S. military advisor in Afghanistan told one of us: “Sometimes a trainee just doesn’t show up right before graduation, and then – sure enough – you are fighting him on the next objective.”

    "In summary, rather than celebrating the (shockingly slow) destruction of the ISIL caliphate, the U.S. military should realize that one of its enemies just learned a whole lot about combat: basic infantry tactics, urban operations, and the clever blending of emerging technologies. These lessons will spread globally, and faster than many expect.

    "What should be done in response? First, the United States has to recognize that the bad guys will get better. Rather than perpetuating the comforting myth that enemy ranks are saturated with incompetent wackos, planners and policymakers must understand that these groups have highly motivated and – with the right training – potentially capable fighters.

    https://warontherocks.com/2018/02/shock-of-the-mundane-the-dangerous-diffusion-of-basic-infantry-tactics/
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  217. @wayfarer
    I guess from primitive hypnosis to advanced MK-Ultra techniques, mind control tools are readily available for those who wish to create disposable cold-blooded false-flag assassins.

    I guess from primitive hypnosis to advanced MK-Ultra techniques, mind control tools are readily available for those who wish to create disposable cold-blooded false-flag assassins.

    Oh absolutely! But why go to the trouble when you have such a vast supply of mentally defective young men raised by single moms and doped to the gills on SSRIs and SSNRIs or GABA/Pregabalin? Who even needs the benzodiazepines or more exotic stuff like sodium oxybate or the myriad “research chemicals” and tryptamine?

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  218. wayfarer says:
    @Simply Simon
    Say Wayfarer, if that video contains good news Mr Thompson would surely be surprised.

    That video surely contains bad news, real bad news.

    It seems only a matter of time now, before America hits the shit.

    As a ticked-off patriot living in Yuma Arizona, who qualified expert-rifle and sharpshooter-pistol in the USCG, I pack a loaded semi-auto handgun.

    Don’t lock my trailer door at night, and although I live in a sketchy part of town, I do sleep soundly.

    I’m not looking for trouble, but if and when it comes looking for me, it will regret the day it was born.

    “Semper Paratus!”

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marksmanship_Medal

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    Wayfarer , I know you are truly a man of peace and so am I. In my old age I have become so disgusted with the stupid wars we have been engaged in I am ready to call myself a pacifist. But like you, I have also earned an expert rifleman's medal, Fort Bragg, 1947. and stand ready to defend my home with a variety of weapons including an M1 Garand.
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  219. @Harold Smith
    "Since the massacre unfolded, people who knew Cruz have painted him as a 'crazy' loner who was 'obsessed with guns'."

    "He was crazy because he liked to kill small things, like little animals - frogs and other animals like that and he just had a crazy mind. He was racist and he was just crazy,' one student told 10ABC News."

    http://www.ladbible.com/news/news-florida-school-shooting-suspect-could-face-the-death-penalty-20180215

    He was racist and he was just crazy,’ one student told 10ABC News.”

    Proving yet again, you can’t trust the MSM. He sure doesn’t look “racist” standing next to his biological & adopted brother the mulatto:

    https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/photo-shows-accused-florida-gunman-his-brother-holding-moms-ashes/

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    "Proving yet again, you can’t trust the MSM. He sure doesn’t look “racist” standing next to his biological & adopted brother the mulatto:"

    If you can't trust the MSM, and the MSM says Cruz was the shooter, does that mean Cruz was not the shooter? No. It means you can't take everything the MSM at face value. You have to put some thought into it, do your own research, etc.; after all, 2 + 2 = 4 even if the generally dishonest MSM says it, right?

    So what about this?

    "In a private Instagram group chat, confessed school shooter Nikolas Cruz repeatedly espoused racist, homophobic and anti-Semitic views and displayed an obsession with violence and guns. [...]"

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/us/exclusive-school-shooter-instagram-group/index.html
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  220. @Achmed E. Newman
    If you're still reading, Stan, great comments that include about all the correct arguments about Americans, the 2nd Amendment and guns. Also, you too, Svigor.

    I don't have the time and patience to agrue with those on here who don't get these points. As I wrote way earlier, some on here just have nothing but their emotions to go on. They should not be voting - that is NOT working out.

    One more thing, though, Stan: As much as I agree with you, I implore you to avoid arguing so vehemently about the small details. I also don't want to let errors slide, but keep in mind that the people that you are getting upset with (at least it reads so) about the Garand vs. ___ and such, ARE ON YOUR SIDE!. Man, you've got to let the little stuff slide, or you'll have no friends, even those who should be.

    OK, one more thing after that. I think the education of our children is JUST as important as keeping our guns. Why? There will be no clear-thinking people left that do understand why me must be armed against the continually encroached Feral beast, if we don't teach the little one right from wrong. Now, if I blog in support of homeschooling, per here, here, and here, will you get in a heated argument over which curriculum to use? Again, we are on the same side.

    Keep up the great writing, Stan and Svigor!

    All good advice, thank you.

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  221. @Simply Simon
    The RCAF died a "quiet" death circa 1970 when the air force, army and navy were integrated into the Canadian Defence Force and the former British style uniforms were abandoned for a one uniform fits all services. I do not think morale of the troops has ever been high on the worry list of their leaders.

    Wait, did you just write Canadian Defense Farce? Or is that my eyes doing auto-correct for me?

    Keep that Maple Leaf flying proudly! And put a hijab on that PM! Eh?

    Right on, crack a Molson, pull your took down tight eh, and go fight off the mooses. As a Detroiter I love my neighbors to the South in Canada..

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    Wait, did you just write Canadian Defense Farce? Or is that my eyes doing auto-correct for me?
     
    Canada is well-watched over by the Paw Patrol and, in tougher situations, the Rescue Bots.

    http://clipart.info/images/ccovers/1508453421paw-patrol-all-characters-png.png

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91vSmtQsO0L._RI_.jpg
    , @Simply Simon
    Sorry, Stan. I wrote Canadian Defen"C"e Force. Their military still retains some British flavor.
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  222. @Simply Simon
    JM, you may have your detractors but I believe you are essentially correct. The combined assets of government forces including nationalized reserves would be able to quickly overwhelm even the most organized militia which would lack sophisticated weapons including attack helicopters , fighter aircraft, a multitude of short and long range artillery and mortars , heavy machine guns, yes even napalm. The government forces would have logistics and resupply capability the militia could only dream of. The only hope the American people could entertain would be if the uniformed services would rebel against their leaders. Having said all that I do not see government action of this type happening in America unless social and economic conditions come to such a boiling point that anarchy ensues. God help all of us then.

    JM, you may have your detractors but I believe you are essentially correct. The combined assets of government forces including nationalized reserves would be able to quickly overwhelm even the most organized militia which would lack sophisticated weapons including attack helicopters , fighter aircraft, a multitude of short and long range artillery and mortars , heavy machine guns, yes even napalm

    Tell the truth, you teed that up for me didn’t you?

    Our Constitution authorizes Government to raise an Army for War. Ever read it? Prohibited was a “standing army”. Again, all Power was to reside in the States and ultimately the People. We The People were supposed to have state of the art “arms” to tyrannize the government. Government was to fear US. Lincoln shredded all of it.

    Astonishing really how it is today the exact polar opposite of what the Framers explicitly intended.

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    Government was to fear US. Lincoln shredded all of it.
     
    Bah. Federalism was dead with the first fugitive slave laws. Those allowed some states to chew up others' sovereignty and spit it out like bad tobacco.

    Lincoln's stupidity was to try and retain by force demographically corrupt states that any sane leader would have expelled in a heartbeat. We had no need for Bantustans.
    , @Simply Simon
    Stan, I'm talking about the power of our government as it exists, not the way you or I would like it to be. Truly, the Constitution has been shredded, more's the pity.
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  223. @Stan d Mute

    He was racist and he was just crazy,’ one student told 10ABC News.”
     
    Proving yet again, you can’t trust the MSM. He sure doesn’t look “racist” standing next to his biological & adopted brother the mulatto:

    https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/photo-shows-accused-florida-gunman-his-brother-holding-moms-ashes/

    “Proving yet again, you can’t trust the MSM. He sure doesn’t look “racist” standing next to his biological & adopted brother the mulatto:”

    If you can’t trust the MSM, and the MSM says Cruz was the shooter, does that mean Cruz was not the shooter? No. It means you can’t take everything the MSM at face value. You have to put some thought into it, do your own research, etc.; after all, 2 + 2 = 4 even if the generally dishonest MSM says it, right?

    So what about this?

    “In a private Instagram group chat, confessed school shooter Nikolas Cruz repeatedly espoused racist, homophobic and anti-Semitic views and displayed an obsession with violence and guns. [...]”

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/us/exclusive-school-shooter-instagram-group/index.html

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    In my case, the rule is : "If it comes from CNN, it's a lie". I'm not exposed to a lot of CNN because I don't watch TV. Without that daily dose of bullshit updated minute by minute, what I see attributed to CNN by others is surreal.
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  224. @Simply Simon
    JM, you may have your detractors but I believe you are essentially correct. The combined assets of government forces including nationalized reserves would be able to quickly overwhelm even the most organized militia which would lack sophisticated weapons including attack helicopters , fighter aircraft, a multitude of short and long range artillery and mortars , heavy machine guns, yes even napalm. The government forces would have logistics and resupply capability the militia could only dream of. The only hope the American people could entertain would be if the uniformed services would rebel against their leaders. Having said all that I do not see government action of this type happening in America unless social and economic conditions come to such a boiling point that anarchy ensues. God help all of us then.

    peterAUS has talked about militia training to better utilize civilian combat power against “sophisticated weapons including attack helicopters , fighter aircraft, a multitude of short and long range artillery and mortars , heavy machine guns, yes even napalm.”

    A little bit of training goes a LONG way in equalizing opposing forces; in “Shock of the Mundane: The Dangerous Diffusion of Basic Infantry Tactics,”

    “We do, however, argue that the marginal improvement of tactical prowess in violent non-state groups may lead to outcomes that have strategic implications for global U.S. counter-terrorist and counter-insurgent operations in two other ways. First, it will make it more likely that violent non-state groups will be able to more frequently impose casualties on and overmatch small, isolated U.S. elements, as occurred in the tragic Niger ambush of October 2017.”

    “Is there evidence that the bad guys are getting better at basic tactics? Yes. Consider Boko Haram. Having only launched its military campaign in 2009, it has already mastered the use of coordinated fire and maneuver elements at the tactical level to execute complex raids, ambushes, assaults, and even withdrawing by echelon when on the defensive. It even staged an amphibious assault that overran a Nigerien Army garrison on an island in Lake Chad. Another example is from much closer to the U.S. homeland. Utilizing tactics diffused through U.S. military training, drug cartels such as the infamous “Zetas” and “Jalisco New Generation” have institutionalized combat training that allows them to regularly wreak havoc on Mexican security forces. In the wake of a recent downing of a Mexican military helicopter through the employment of rocket-propelled grenades, the disturbing discovery was made of tactical gear emblazoned with “CJNG – High Command Special Forces” (Cartel de Jalisco Nueva Generacion). Further evidence comes from the Iraqi campaign to defeat ISIL. Conventional forces struggled mightily to eject ISIL from Iraq’s territory, and only succeeded due to the heavy use of Iraqi special operations forces and liberal American airpower. The battle of Mosul, for example, lasted for nine months despite significant material U.S. support and a 20:1 force ratio against the ISIL defenders. Afghan conventional military forces are often defeated by an increasingly competent Taliban. On the other side of the world, Filipino forces had to destroy much of the town of Marawi to liberate it from jihadist insurgents during a five-month siege last year. Furthermore, these enemies seem to be gravitating towards operations in urban areas. These environments hinder the United States and its partners from utilizing their high-tech advantages, resulting in a playing field that could get ever more level. Finally, given the ease with which such groups can infiltrate poorly vetted partner forces, the U.S. military has probably provided tactical instruction to the enemy directly and indirectly for a long time. As one U.S. military advisor in Afghanistan told one of us: “Sometimes a trainee just doesn’t show up right before graduation, and then – sure enough – you are fighting him on the next objective.”

    “In summary, rather than celebrating the (shockingly slow) destruction of the ISIL caliphate, the U.S. military should realize that one of its enemies just learned a whole lot about combat: basic infantry tactics, urban operations, and the clever blending of emerging technologies. These lessons will spread globally, and faster than many expect.

    “What should be done in response? First, the United States has to recognize that the bad guys will get better. Rather than perpetuating the comforting myth that enemy ranks are saturated with incompetent wackos, planners and policymakers must understand that these groups have highly motivated and – with the right training – potentially capable fighters.

    https://warontherocks.com/2018/02/shock-of-the-mundane-the-dangerous-diffusion-of-basic-infantry-tactics/

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  225. One notable beneficiary of the race-denialist approach: Trayvon Martin, the black youth shot by George Zimmerman in 2012 in Miami-Dade County, right next door to Parkdale’s Broward County.

    Correxion: Martin was from Miami-Dade, but he was shot in Seminole County. That’s seven counties away.

    That’s like saying Derb is from East Sussex, or Cornwall, or, God help us, Argyllshire.

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    That’s like saying Derb is from East Sussex, or Cornwall, or, God help us, Argyllshire.
     
    Speak Americanish. All I know is Derb’s from the land of tea, crumpets, and effeminate Princelings. But at least he came to his senses and joined the right team. My ancestors too were from Queenie-land, one can’t help that I suppose. Of course my ancestors bled for their freedom and Derb hasn’t yet, but with diversity he still may yet.

    Martin was in Seminole because he wasn’t in jail in Miami-Dade.
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  226. @Stan d Mute
    Wait, did you just write Canadian Defense Farce? Or is that my eyes doing auto-correct for me?

    Keep that Maple Leaf flying proudly! And put a hijab on that PM! Eh?

    Right on, crack a Molson, pull your took down tight eh, and go fight off the mooses. As a Detroiter I love my neighbors to the South in Canada..

    Wait, did you just write Canadian Defense Farce? Or is that my eyes doing auto-correct for me?

    Canada is well-watched over by the Paw Patrol and, in tougher situations, the Rescue Bots.

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    When Canaduh and Floriduh collide..

    Gives fresh new meaning to “Snowbirds” eh?

    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/02/28/royal-canadian-air-force-life-raft-crashes-miami-woman-hurt/
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  227. @Stan d Mute

    JM, you may have your detractors but I believe you are essentially correct. The combined assets of government forces including nationalized reserves would be able to quickly overwhelm even the most organized militia which would lack sophisticated weapons including attack helicopters , fighter aircraft, a multitude of short and long range artillery and mortars , heavy machine guns, yes even napalm
     
    Tell the truth, you teed that up for me didn’t you?

    Our Constitution authorizes Government to raise an Army for War. Ever read it? Prohibited was a “standing army”. Again, all Power was to reside in the States and ultimately the People. We The People were supposed to have state of the art “arms” to tyrannize the government. Government was to fear US. Lincoln shredded all of it.

    Astonishing really how it is today the exact polar opposite of what the Framers explicitly intended.

    Government was to fear US. Lincoln shredded all of it.

    Bah. Federalism was dead with the first fugitive slave laws. Those allowed some states to chew up others’ sovereignty and spit it out like bad tobacco.

    Lincoln’s stupidity was to try and retain by force demographically corrupt states that any sane leader would have expelled in a heartbeat. We had no need for Bantustans.

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    Bah. Federalism was dead with the first fugitive slave laws. Those allowed some states to chew up others’ sovereignty and spit it out like bad tobacco.
     
    Disagree here. Liberty and property rights are inseparable. Slaves were property. You’re arguing it was anti-Federalist to force States to relinquish and return property stolen from the People in other States. None of the Framers ever expressed such an intent for what should be obvious reasons. New York couldn’t just keep any property stolen from Virginia could it? The only reason such laws were necessary is because slaves were unusual property capable of forming intent and acting to steal itself (unlike say stray dogs or livestock).

    Expressly not, I’m sure you know, advocacy of slavery. Just acknowledging that slavery was then (and always before we ended it) lawful and that slaves were property.
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  228. Nikolas Cruz, middle name de Jesús, is a statistical Hispanic, so he got the same velvet-glove treatment as Trayvon Martin.

    We don’t need gun control, we need Cruz control.

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  229. Svigor says:

    Irrelevant, because it doesn’t work, never has, never will. Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed “militia” in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.

    About 30 British citizens were included in the Branch Davidian residents of whom 28 died.

    The 25th anniversary is tomorrow and provides an excellent opportunity for we the people to reflect on the futility of armed resistance to US government authority within the territory of the US.

    The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done.

    TL;DR version: if insurgents don’t fight the way Mr Mason says they must, they’re doing it wrong. Ambushes? Raids? Snipers? IEDs? Weapons caches? What are those?

    If the Branch Davidians were actual insurgents, they would have surrendered, gone through processing, done their time if any, and filtered back to discuss what they were thinking, all holed up in a single compound like cultists (which is what they were, not insurgents, lol).

    What a nitwit. US gov’t can’t even subdue Vietnamese or Afghan peasants with air supremacy and broad ROE, two things they won’t have against a domestic threat.

    The people who think an insurgency is impossible are even stupider than the people who think Americans are close to mounting one.

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    I think that the people who always show up on threads like this to say that it's impossible to fight the PTB are shills. That tactic has been in use since the old usenet days. The shills are easy to spot, but once spotted, they should be ignored.

    A shill who posts to a thread and gets no replies has no effect on the conversation. Don't feed the shills or the trolls.
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  230. Svigor says:

    I mean the Branch Davidians as insurgents, much less the gold standard of insurgents, has got to be the stupidest fucking thing I’ve ever read.

    Mason’s got to be trolling for fun. Nobody is that stupid.

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    Who are you replying to? Why not use the reply button at the comment instead of scrolling down to reply to the OP?
    , @Stan d Mute

    Mason’s got to be trolling for fun. Nobody is that stupid.
     
    Never underestimate stupid.
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  231. @Stan d Mute

    And they want to make the “Sheeple” figure that psycho murderers of school children lack imagination and will not think “out of the sandbox.”

    Yup… soon as interior school buildings are fortified like Attica, the “insane” will not look to areas exterior to building-spaces as prospective student-killing scenes!
     
    I know Parkland/Coral Springs very well and one of the parents did an interview with extremely cogent point. After school hundreds of kids walk down the sidewalk past the Walmart and across Coral Ridge to the McD’s and other hangouts, all of them staring at their iPhones oblivious to anything around them. I won’t finish the thought, but I found the video:

    https://youtu.be/vTLKp1e-S9g

    Thanks Stan d mule for reinforcing my point (including a parent’s take on video) about myopic focus upon simply fortifying shool INTERIOR space and arming teachers as panacea.

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  232. @Stan d Mute
    Wait, what? You get one per HOUR? Where’s Ron? Over 1000 comments and 160,000 words just 2014-present (dunno what happened to earlier - I was commenting at least back to ‘10 but became regular when Sailer moved here). Why am I the black sheep? Or are you special?

    Click on the agree/disagree button and read the text inside referring to the use of label buttons. It’s one per hour.

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    Click on the agree/disagree button and read the text inside referring to the use of label buttons. It’s one per hour.
     
    I know, but if I come back in an hour, everything is still shaded out and unavailable. Maybe because I use an iPad? Or maybe a huge Jewish conspiracy against me..
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  233. Da Wei says:
    @Neoconned
    They look like models hustling for a TV show contract....

    no shit

    like that distressed father from Sandy Hook, the one who couldn’t keep a straight face

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  234. @Harold Smith
    "Proving yet again, you can’t trust the MSM. He sure doesn’t look “racist” standing next to his biological & adopted brother the mulatto:"

    If you can't trust the MSM, and the MSM says Cruz was the shooter, does that mean Cruz was not the shooter? No. It means you can't take everything the MSM at face value. You have to put some thought into it, do your own research, etc.; after all, 2 + 2 = 4 even if the generally dishonest MSM says it, right?

    So what about this?

    "In a private Instagram group chat, confessed school shooter Nikolas Cruz repeatedly espoused racist, homophobic and anti-Semitic views and displayed an obsession with violence and guns. [...]"

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/us/exclusive-school-shooter-instagram-group/index.html

    In my case, the rule is : “If it comes from CNN, it’s a lie”. I’m not exposed to a lot of CNN because I don’t watch TV. Without that daily dose of bullshit updated minute by minute, what I see attributed to CNN by others is surreal.

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    "In my case, the rule is : 'If it comes from CNN, it’s a lie'.

    In general I agree, but it's a little more nuanced than that, IMO. To elaborate a little bit, in matters involving "politics", "foreign policy", "terrorism", "gun control" - generally anything having to do with the advancement of the Satanic judeo-communist agenda - their "product" is a mix of truisms (usually bereft of proper context or presented in a misleading/inappropriate context), outright lies, lies by omission, etc. IOW they're *propagandists* who mix some "truth" in with their lies in an attempt to beguile their audience.

    For example, as per the CNN article and video I linked to in an earlier comment, CNN is presenting Cruz as a "nut case" obsessed with "race", "guns" and "violence." And in support of this position, they quote some statements and videos allegedly made by Cruz during some kind of a discussion, which, taken at face value, would probably persuade most people to agree.

    But what we don't know is what the other participants in the discussion with Cruz were saying. Absent this important context, we can only guess. Maybe they were all making similar statements. Maybe they were calculatingly eliciting such statements from Cruz; i.e., egging him on, in which case their position is seriously weakened.

    While I believe that Cruz is mentally unstable, I see features here which are disturbingly reminiscent of earlier false-flag acts of terrorism by our Satanic masters, e.g., the so-called "underwear bomber." In fact my present view is that if Cruz was actually *the* shooter (or a shooter), somebody put him up to it. Somebody found a highly manipulable, mentally and morally defective fool, groomed him and used him to carry out a violent act or to participate in one. Even if he didn't actually shoot anyone, he seems to be a excellent "patsy".

    Anyway, the robust historical record shows that the "lone nut" killer (real or imagined) is a powerful tool in our masters' Satanic toolbox, in large part because none of the alleged killers' actions have to make much sense. We ask, "why would he do this or that" and the dispositive answer is: because he's a "nut case".

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  235. @Svigor

    Irrelevant, because it doesn’t work, never has, never will. Waco is the prime example of a heavily armed “militia” in a fortified area resisting federal power with a huge number of weapons and a practically unlimited supply of ammunition.

    About 30 British citizens were included in the Branch Davidian residents of whom 28 died.

    The 25th anniversary is tomorrow and provides an excellent opportunity for we the people to reflect on the futility of armed resistance to US government authority within the territory of the US.

    The only way to fight the tyrannical US government is to elect slightly less tyrannical legislators, which is difficult given the 2-party system, but it can be done.
     
    TL;DR version: if insurgents don't fight the way Mr Mason says they must, they're doing it wrong. Ambushes? Raids? Snipers? IEDs? Weapons caches? What are those?

    If the Branch Davidians were actual insurgents, they would have surrendered, gone through processing, done their time if any, and filtered back to discuss what they were thinking, all holed up in a single compound like cultists (which is what they were, not insurgents, lol).

    What a nitwit. US gov't can't even subdue Vietnamese or Afghan peasants with air supremacy and broad ROE, two things they won't have against a domestic threat.

    The people who think an insurgency is impossible are even stupider than the people who think Americans are close to mounting one.

    I think that the people who always show up on threads like this to say that it’s impossible to fight the PTB are shills. That tactic has been in use since the old usenet days. The shills are easy to spot, but once spotted, they should be ignored.

    A shill who posts to a thread and gets no replies has no effect on the conversation. Don’t feed the shills or the trolls.

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  236. @Svigor
    I mean the Branch Davidians as insurgents, much less the gold standard of insurgents, has got to be the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read.

    Mason's got to be trolling for fun. Nobody is that stupid.

    Who are you replying to? Why not use the reply button at the comment instead of scrolling down to reply to the OP?

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    Who are you replying to? Why not use the reply button at the comment instead of scrolling down to reply to the OP?

     

    User friendliness has never been a priority with him. Others have brought this up years ago.

    Another aspect to consider, the reply button may not show on his Commodore 64's display.
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  237. wayfarer says:

    Dots continue to be connected, with more evidence emerging that indicates the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting was in fact, a false flag.

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broward_County_Sheriff%27s_Office
    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting

    Intel Officer: “Globalists Attempting to Start Massive New World War”

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  238. @Twodees Partain
    In my case, the rule is : "If it comes from CNN, it's a lie". I'm not exposed to a lot of CNN because I don't watch TV. Without that daily dose of bullshit updated minute by minute, what I see attributed to CNN by others is surreal.

    “In my case, the rule is : ‘If it comes from CNN, it’s a lie’.

    In general I agree, but it’s a little more nuanced than that, IMO. To elaborate a little bit, in matters involving “politics”, “foreign policy”, “terrorism”, “gun control” – generally anything having to do with the advancement of the Satanic judeo-communist agenda – their “product” is a mix of truisms (usually bereft of proper context or presented in a misleading/inappropriate context), outright lies, lies by omission, etc. IOW they’re *propagandists* who mix some “truth” in with their lies in an attempt to beguile their audience.

    For example, as per the CNN article and video I linked to in an earlier comment, CNN is presenting Cruz as a “nut case” obsessed with “race”, “guns” and “violence.” And in support of this position, they quote some statements and videos allegedly made by Cruz during some kind of a discussion, which, taken at face value, would probably persuade most people to agree.

    But what we don’t know is what the other participants in the discussion with Cruz were saying. Absent this important context, we can only guess. Maybe they were all making similar statements. Maybe they were calculatingly eliciting such statements from Cruz; i.e., egging him on, in which case their position is seriously weakened.

    While I believe that Cruz is mentally unstable, I see features here which are disturbingly reminiscent of earlier false-flag acts of terrorism by our Satanic masters, e.g., the so-called “underwear bomber.” In fact my present view is that if Cruz was actually *the* shooter (or a shooter), somebody put him up to it. Somebody found a highly manipulable, mentally and morally defective fool, groomed him and used him to carry out a violent act or to participate in one. Even if he didn’t actually shoot anyone, he seems to be a excellent “patsy”.

    Anyway, the robust historical record shows that the “lone nut” killer (real or imagined) is a powerful tool in our masters’ Satanic toolbox, in large part because none of the alleged killers’ actions have to make much sense. We ask, “why would he do this or that” and the dispositive answer is: because he’s a “nut case”.

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    I realized back while Bill Clinton was involved in his co-presidency with Hillary that CNN was nonstop, 24 hour bullshit. It's not any more nuanced than that, they are completely full of shit.

    I find it easier to gather facts when I exclude known purveyors of lies, so ignoring anything coming from CNN is what I do as a a matter of routine.
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  239. @Reg Cæsar

    One notable beneficiary of the race-denialist approach: Trayvon Martin, the black youth shot by George Zimmerman in 2012 in Miami-Dade County, right next door to Parkdale’s Broward County.
     
    Correxion: Martin was from Miami-Dade, but he was shot in Seminole County. That's seven counties away.

    That's like saying Derb is from East Sussex, or Cornwall, or, God help us, Argyllshire.

    That’s like saying Derb is from East Sussex, or Cornwall, or, God help us, Argyllshire.

    Speak Americanish. All I know is Derb’s from the land of tea, crumpets, and effeminate Princelings. But at least he came to his senses and joined the right team. My ancestors too were from Queenie-land, one can’t help that I suppose. Of course my ancestors bled for their freedom and Derb hasn’t yet, but with diversity he still may yet.

    Martin was in Seminole because he wasn’t in jail in Miami-Dade.

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  240. @Reg Cæsar

    Government was to fear US. Lincoln shredded all of it.
     
    Bah. Federalism was dead with the first fugitive slave laws. Those allowed some states to chew up others' sovereignty and spit it out like bad tobacco.

    Lincoln's stupidity was to try and retain by force demographically corrupt states that any sane leader would have expelled in a heartbeat. We had no need for Bantustans.

    Bah. Federalism was dead with the first fugitive slave laws. Those allowed some states to chew up others’ sovereignty and spit it out like bad tobacco.

    Disagree here. Liberty and property rights are inseparable. Slaves were property. You’re arguing it was anti-Federalist to force States to relinquish and return property stolen from the People in other States. None of the Framers ever expressed such an intent for what should be obvious reasons. New York couldn’t just keep any property stolen from Virginia could it? The only reason such laws were necessary is because slaves were unusual property capable of forming intent and acting to steal itself (unlike say stray dogs or livestock).

    Expressly not, I’m sure you know, advocacy of slavery. Just acknowledging that slavery was then (and always before we ended it) lawful and that slaves were property.

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    New York couldn’t just keep any property stolen from Virginia could it?
     
    If Nova Scotia and Upper Canada could, why not New York? Crown colonies had more sovereignty than US states? Not much of a "revolution", was it?

    Turn it around, and you're saying Americans had no right to complain about the "white slavers", whose trade was quite lawful in their homelands.

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/512QO%2BnjdlL.jpg

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  241. @Svigor
    I mean the Branch Davidians as insurgents, much less the gold standard of insurgents, has got to be the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read.

    Mason's got to be trolling for fun. Nobody is that stupid.

    Mason’s got to be trolling for fun. Nobody is that stupid.

    Never underestimate stupid.

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  242. @Twodees Partain
    Click on the agree/disagree button and read the text inside referring to the use of label buttons. It's one per hour.

    Click on the agree/disagree button and read the text inside referring to the use of label buttons. It’s one per hour.

    I know, but if I come back in an hour, everything is still shaded out and unavailable. Maybe because I use an iPad? Or maybe a huge Jewish conspiracy against me..

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    In your case, it may well be the eevull joos. I have them on ignore so I'm invisible to them. BTW, even if they ain't out to get you, that doesn't mean that they won't.
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  243. wayfarer says:

    Dr. Steve Pieczenik discusses an unfolding “apocalypse of information” and the Parkland Florida “false flag.”

    “Distortion of Reality and the Information Singularity”

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    Jones and Infowars never impressed me as credible.

    Too intellectually sloppy, too much car'salesman fast talking.
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  244. Nappyman says:
    @eah
    Seems to be an agenda here.

    https://twitter.com/happycycling03/status/967857288278142977

    She is not speaking about white people. Her comment is about Young People in general.

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  245. Zumbuddi says:
    @wayfarer
    Dr. Steve Pieczenik discusses an unfolding “apocalypse of information” and the Parkland Florida “false flag.”

    "Distortion of Reality and the Information Singularity"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmfxeiUHfCs

    .....

    Jones and Infowars never impressed me as credible.

    Too intellectually sloppy, too much car’salesman fast talking.

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    Alex Jones is just another flavor of Glen Beck.
    , @wayfarer
    I'm no fan of Alex Jones or Infowars.

    Just a prospector seeking information gold, buried in the information ore.

    One thing's certain, the elite's end-game is continuing to accelerate.

    It's only going to get rougher, so standby for heavy rolls.

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  246. @Zumbuddi
    Jones and Infowars never impressed me as credible.

    Too intellectually sloppy, too much car'salesman fast talking.

    Alex Jones is just another flavor of Glen Beck.

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  247. wayfarer says:
    @Zumbuddi
    Jones and Infowars never impressed me as credible.

    Too intellectually sloppy, too much car'salesman fast talking.

    I’m no fan of Alex Jones or Infowars.

    Just a prospector seeking information gold, buried in the information ore.

    One thing’s certain, the elite’s end-game is continuing to accelerate.

    It’s only going to get rougher, so standby for heavy rolls.

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    OK I jumped the gun.

    Turned the volume down to tame the gravely voice & listened very carefully to Pieczenik, esp his references to fiction

    We know US institutions have used fiction writers & Hollywood to normalize whatever evil scheme is on the agenda, & US gov has been doing this since Creel Committee WWI.

    Just finished reading Patricia Cornwell's Depraved Heart, about a rogue former FBI agent/psychopath. Subplot involved "data fiction" --- same concept as Pieczenik's Apocalypse of Information. Cromwell even had a key element of the plot take place on Feb 14.

    No Person can trust anything US gov or media or think tank says.

    Dystopia.

    Crucial not to become paralyzed deer in headlights.

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  248. @Reg Cæsar

    Wait, did you just write Canadian Defense Farce? Or is that my eyes doing auto-correct for me?
     
    Canada is well-watched over by the Paw Patrol and, in tougher situations, the Rescue Bots.

    http://clipart.info/images/ccovers/1508453421paw-patrol-all-characters-png.png

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91vSmtQsO0L._RI_.jpg

    When Canaduh and Floriduh collide..

    Gives fresh new meaning to “Snowbirds” eh?

    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/02/28/royal-canadian-air-force-life-raft-crashes-miami-woman-hurt/

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  249. Zumbuddi says:
    @wayfarer
    I'm no fan of Alex Jones or Infowars.

    Just a prospector seeking information gold, buried in the information ore.

    One thing's certain, the elite's end-game is continuing to accelerate.

    It's only going to get rougher, so standby for heavy rolls.

    OK I jumped the gun.

    Turned the volume down to tame the gravely voice & listened very carefully to Pieczenik, esp his references to fiction

    We know US institutions have used fiction writers & Hollywood to normalize whatever evil scheme is on the agenda, & US gov has been doing this since Creel Committee WWI.

    Just finished reading Patricia Cornwell’s Depraved Heart, about a rogue former FBI agent/psychopath. Subplot involved “data fiction” — same concept as Pieczenik’s Apocalypse of Information. Cromwell even had a key element of the plot take place on Feb 14.

    No Person can trust anything US gov or media or think tank says.

    Dystopia.

    Crucial not to become paralyzed deer in headlights.

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    In a world, approaching its information singularity at a dramatically increasing rate of acceleration, where facts/truths one day become fictions/fallacies the next, and vice versa; it may now be swiftly approaching its chaos singularity, as well.
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  250. South Florida is occupied territory, Little Israel.. Lets not forget that the Israeli “art students” arrested after 9/11 came from Hollywood Florida.
    The likeliest suspect behind the raid is the Shomrim ultra-Orthodox Jewish vigilante group, heavily concentrated in Parkland, headquarters of the Lubavitcher movement in Broward and Palm Beach counties (Parkland is on the county line). Not only would they could they obtain insider information on the target site, most of the able-bodied members of Shomrim have trained and served in the IDF ( the Israel Defense Force), which has dispatched innumerable strike teams for house-to-house raids in Gaza, along with major offensives against bunkers, tunnels, missile launchers, mortar pits and rooftops during intense urban warfare since 2006, which flared into all-out air-and-ground battles in 2014
    South Florida is a key political stronghold for the pro-Israel lobby in Congress, which faces a potential wipeout in upcoming midterm elections when the Republicans are focusing on the infamous Debbie Wasserman Schulz (Broward country) and Ted Deutch (D-Boca Raton). The latter inherited the congressional seat of powerful Zionist lobbyist Robert Wexler, who is responsible for hiring the Imran Awan spy team from Pakistan to monitor computers in the U.S. House of Representatives.
    Teachers description of the body armor and tactics of the reported three assailants are here compared with the IDF (Israel Defense Force) commando operations in Gaza, for which local Shomrim vigilantes have volunteered and participated

    http://www.rense.com/general96/commando.html

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  251. Don’t forget this anti-semitic “Jew” (Mossad) that made all those bomb threat, active shooter hoax, hostage situation hoax, phone calls, to Jewish centers and ADL, you guessed it, also from Florida.
    He fled back to Israel of course.
    The Department of Justice today announced the indictment of Michael Ron David Kadar, 19, who holds dual United States and Israeli citizenship, in three jurisdictions for hate crimes and other offenses.
    The indictment from Florida charges Kadar with hate crimes as a result of threatening calls he made to Jewish Community Centers in the state. In addition, the indictment from the District of Columbia charges Kadar with threatening the Israeli Embassy and the Anti-Defamation League in Washington, D.C. The third indictment charges Kadar with cyberstalking and conveying false information to police dispatch regarding harm to private residents in Georgia.

    An investigation into numerous threats made to individuals and organizations throughout the United States in 2016 and early 2017 led to Kadar being charged initially in criminal complaints on April 21, 2017 in Florida and Georgia following his arrest in Israel. Kadar remains in custody in Israel where he also faces charges.

    The indictment from the Middle District of Florida charges that beginning on or about Jan. 4, 2017, and continuing until Feb. 27, 2017, Kadar made multiple threatening calls involving bomb threats and active shooter threats to numerous Jewish Community Centers throughout Florida.

    What is it with Florida, Texas, New York, Vegas? What do they have in common?????

    http://investmentwatchblog.com/fake-anti-semitism-dual-us-israeli-citizen-michael-kadar-indicted-for-anti-semitic-hate-crimes/

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    Nikolas Cruz Was a Racist. Does That Make His Attack Terrorism?
    DEAN OBEIDALLAH
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/nikolas-cruz-was-a-racist-does-that-make-his-attack-terrorism?ref=scroll

    We just learned that the school shooter carved swastikas into his gun magazines. And he hated Jews, African Americans, and immigrants. Can we talk about this?
    . . .
    Cruz had etched swastikas on the ammunition magazines he carried on the day he committed his brutal massacre that took 17 lives.

    When I first heard of this development, my jaw dropped . . .

    And Cruz’s white supremacist views also made their way from the online world to the real world. One of Cruz’s classmates reportedly told a social worker that Cruz had drawn a swastika on his book back next to the words “I hate ni***rs.” . . .

    While initial reports that Cruz was actually a member of a white supremacist group proved to be unfounded,  there’s no disputing Cruz’s documented history of spewing despicable views that line up with the white nationalist ideology. But still, given all that we’ve now learned, the question I have is: How much more evidence do we need before we discuss in earnest whether Cruz’s white supremacist views played a role in this attack?!


    True, there’s no evidence that Cruz targeted any specific group of people during his rampage.

    And the swastikas on Cruz’s gun magazines take on a greater significance when you examine the shooting itself. Of the 17 people Cruz killed, at least five were Jewish. (Some reports note it could be six.) Even more disturbing is that Cruz had reportedly shot bullets into a Holocaust history class that killed two of those students. Did Cruz intentionally target that class since he had formerly been a student at the school? We don’t know but given Cruz’s history this is certainly a fair question. And since he’s that rare mass-shooter who’s still alive, I presume he’ll be asked.
    In fact, the question of whether Cruz’s gun massacre was an anti-Semitic attack inspired by a white supremacist ideology was raised in an op-ed in the liberal Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz even before we learned about the swastikas on Cruz’s gun magazines. There, the writer noted that Cruz had expressed views “that Jews were part of a conspiracy to unseat white people from power and destroy the world.” In response to that article, the writer was subjected to an avalanche of vile anti-Semitic barbs.
    Given these newly revealed swastikas, it’s long overdue that we have that conversation about whether Cruz was more than a troubled youth. . . .
     

    Over 5 000 words and no mention that Cruz is Jewish and apparently (to the extent his father's ethnicity is known) biracial.
    His brother -- same Jewish mother, father is Black.

    Yes. let's have a conversation about Jewish sluts dumping their mongrel kids on society.

    (Nor is there anything other than the author's assertion that "swastikas were etched on the magazine.")

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  252. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @redmudhooch
    Don't forget this anti-semitic "Jew" (Mossad) that made all those bomb threat, active shooter hoax, hostage situation hoax, phone calls, to Jewish centers and ADL, you guessed it, also from Florida.
    He fled back to Israel of course.
    The Department of Justice today announced the indictment of Michael Ron David Kadar, 19, who holds dual United States and Israeli citizenship, in three jurisdictions for hate crimes and other offenses.
    The indictment from Florida charges Kadar with hate crimes as a result of threatening calls he made to Jewish Community Centers in the state. In addition, the indictment from the District of Columbia charges Kadar with threatening the Israeli Embassy and the Anti-Defamation League in Washington, D.C. The third indictment charges Kadar with cyberstalking and conveying false information to police dispatch regarding harm to private residents in Georgia.

    An investigation into numerous threats made to individuals and organizations throughout the United States in 2016 and early 2017 led to Kadar being charged initially in criminal complaints on April 21, 2017 in Florida and Georgia following his arrest in Israel. Kadar remains in custody in Israel where he also faces charges.

    The indictment from the Middle District of Florida charges that beginning on or about Jan. 4, 2017, and continuing until Feb. 27, 2017, Kadar made multiple threatening calls involving bomb threats and active shooter threats to numerous Jewish Community Centers throughout Florida.

    What is it with Florida, Texas, New York, Vegas? What do they have in common?????

    http://investmentwatchblog.com/fake-anti-semitism-dual-us-israeli-citizen-michael-kadar-indicted-for-anti-semitic-hate-crimes/

    Nikolas Cruz Was a Racist. Does That Make His Attack Terrorism?
    DEAN OBEIDALLAH

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/nikolas-cruz-was-a-racist-does-that-make-his-attack-terrorism?ref=scroll

    We just learned that the school shooter carved swastikas into his gun magazines. And he hated Jews, African Americans, and immigrants. Can we talk about this?
    . . .
    Cruz had etched swastikas on the ammunition magazines he carried on the day he committed his brutal massacre that took 17 lives.

    When I first heard of this development, my jaw dropped . . .

    And Cruz’s white supremacist views also made their way from the online world to the real world. One of Cruz’s classmates reportedly told a social worker that Cruz had drawn a swastika on his book back next to the words “I hate ni***rs.” . . .

    While initial reports that Cruz was actually a member of a white supremacist group proved to be unfounded,  there’s no disputing Cruz’s documented history of spewing despicable views that line up with the white nationalist ideology. But still, given all that we’ve now learned, the question I have is: How much more evidence do we need before we discuss in earnest whether Cruz’s white supremacist views played a role in this attack?!

    True, there’s no evidence that Cruz targeted any specific group of people during his rampage.

    And the swastikas on Cruz’s gun magazines take on a greater significance when you examine the shooting itself. Of the 17 people Cruz killed, at least five were Jewish. (Some reports note it could be six.) Even more disturbing is that Cruz had reportedly shot bullets into a Holocaust history class that killed two of those students. Did Cruz intentionally target that class since he had formerly been a student at the school? We don’t know but given Cruz’s history this is certainly a fair question. And since he’s that rare mass-shooter who’s still alive, I presume he’ll be asked.
    In fact, the question of whether Cruz’s gun massacre was an anti-Semitic attack inspired by a white supremacist ideology was raised in an op-ed in the liberal Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz even before we learned about the swastikas on Cruz’s gun magazines. There, the writer noted that Cruz had expressed views “that Jews were part of a conspiracy to unseat white people from power and destroy the world.” In response to that article, the writer was subjected to an avalanche of vile anti-Semitic barbs.
    Given these newly revealed swastikas, it’s long overdue that we have that conversation about whether Cruz was more than a troubled youth. . . .

    Over 5 000 words and no mention that Cruz is Jewish and apparently (to the extent his father’s ethnicity is known) biracial.
    His brother — same Jewish mother, father is Black.

    Yes. let’s have a conversation about Jewish sluts dumping their mongrel kids on society.

    (Nor is there anything other than the author’s assertion that “swastikas were etched on the magazine.”)

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  253. @Harold Smith
    "In my case, the rule is : 'If it comes from CNN, it’s a lie'.

    In general I agree, but it's a little more nuanced than that, IMO. To elaborate a little bit, in matters involving "politics", "foreign policy", "terrorism", "gun control" - generally anything having to do with the advancement of the Satanic judeo-communist agenda - their "product" is a mix of truisms (usually bereft of proper context or presented in a misleading/inappropriate context), outright lies, lies by omission, etc. IOW they're *propagandists* who mix some "truth" in with their lies in an attempt to beguile their audience.

    For example, as per the CNN article and video I linked to in an earlier comment, CNN is presenting Cruz as a "nut case" obsessed with "race", "guns" and "violence." And in support of this position, they quote some statements and videos allegedly made by Cruz during some kind of a discussion, which, taken at face value, would probably persuade most people to agree.

    But what we don't know is what the other participants in the discussion with Cruz were saying. Absent this important context, we can only guess. Maybe they were all making similar statements. Maybe they were calculatingly eliciting such statements from Cruz; i.e., egging him on, in which case their position is seriously weakened.

    While I believe that Cruz is mentally unstable, I see features here which are disturbingly reminiscent of earlier false-flag acts of terrorism by our Satanic masters, e.g., the so-called "underwear bomber." In fact my present view is that if Cruz was actually *the* shooter (or a shooter), somebody put him up to it. Somebody found a highly manipulable, mentally and morally defective fool, groomed him and used him to carry out a violent act or to participate in one. Even if he didn't actually shoot anyone, he seems to be a excellent "patsy".

    Anyway, the robust historical record shows that the "lone nut" killer (real or imagined) is a powerful tool in our masters' Satanic toolbox, in large part because none of the alleged killers' actions have to make much sense. We ask, "why would he do this or that" and the dispositive answer is: because he's a "nut case".

    I realized back while Bill Clinton was involved in his co-presidency with Hillary that CNN was nonstop, 24 hour bullshit. It’s not any more nuanced than that, they are completely full of shit.

    I find it easier to gather facts when I exclude known purveyors of lies, so ignoring anything coming from CNN is what I do as a a matter of routine.

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  254. @Stan d Mute

    Click on the agree/disagree button and read the text inside referring to the use of label buttons. It’s one per hour.
     
    I know, but if I come back in an hour, everything is still shaded out and unavailable. Maybe because I use an iPad? Or maybe a huge Jewish conspiracy against me..

    In your case, it may well be the eevull joos. I have them on ignore so I’m invisible to them. BTW, even if they ain’t out to get you, that doesn’t mean that they won’t.

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  255. @Stan d Mute

    JM, you may have your detractors but I believe you are essentially correct. The combined assets of government forces including nationalized reserves would be able to quickly overwhelm even the most organized militia which would lack sophisticated weapons including attack helicopters , fighter aircraft, a multitude of short and long range artillery and mortars , heavy machine guns, yes even napalm
     
    Tell the truth, you teed that up for me didn’t you?

    Our Constitution authorizes Government to raise an Army for War. Ever read it? Prohibited was a “standing army”. Again, all Power was to reside in the States and ultimately the People. We The People were supposed to have state of the art “arms” to tyrannize the government. Government was to fear US. Lincoln shredded all of it.

    Astonishing really how it is today the exact polar opposite of what the Framers explicitly intended.

    Stan, I’m talking about the power of our government as it exists, not the way you or I would like it to be. Truly, the Constitution has been shredded, more’s the pity.

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  256. @Stan d Mute
    Wait, did you just write Canadian Defense Farce? Or is that my eyes doing auto-correct for me?

    Keep that Maple Leaf flying proudly! And put a hijab on that PM! Eh?

    Right on, crack a Molson, pull your took down tight eh, and go fight off the mooses. As a Detroiter I love my neighbors to the South in Canada..

    Sorry, Stan. I wrote Canadian Defen”C”e Force. Their military still retains some British flavor.

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    Sorry, Stan. I wrote Canadian Defen”C”e Force. Their military still retains some British flavor.
     
    So Canadian Defence Farce? Did you see my comment linking your Royal Canadian Air Farce dropping a life raft through a Miami roof yesterday? Canaduh meets Floriduh and redefines “snowbird”. Or was that a Canadian act of war?

    Michael Moore is a hypocritical jackass, but his Canadian Bacon perfectly summed up my experience as a Michiganderp with our cousins across the river eh? But of course we have massive Canadian Provinces disguised as States (Minnesota for example) and peninsulas (yoopers anyone?) which we’d love to give back.
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  257. @wayfarer
    That video surely contains bad news, real bad news.

    It seems only a matter of time now, before America hits the shit.

    As a ticked-off patriot living in Yuma Arizona, who qualified expert-rifle and sharpshooter-pistol in the USCG, I pack a loaded semi-auto handgun.

    Don't lock my trailer door at night, and although I live in a sketchy part of town, I do sleep soundly.

    I'm not looking for trouble, but if and when it comes looking for me, it will regret the day it was born.

    “Semper Paratus!”

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marksmanship_Medal

    Wayfarer , I know you are truly a man of peace and so am I. In my old age I have become so disgusted with the stupid wars we have been engaged in I am ready to call myself a pacifist. But like you, I have also earned an expert rifleman’s medal, Fort Bragg, 1947. and stand ready to defend my home with a variety of weapons including an M1 Garand.

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    I am a man of peace, absolute forgiveness though is something that will be unreachable for me, at least in this lifetime. Maybe in the next one.

    See you, on the other side.

    P.S. Really hoping to get there before you.

    , @wayfarer

    Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death. – Sun Tzu
     
    That is for you, Simply Simon.
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  258. wayfarer says:
    @Zumbuddi
    OK I jumped the gun.

    Turned the volume down to tame the gravely voice & listened very carefully to Pieczenik, esp his references to fiction

    We know US institutions have used fiction writers & Hollywood to normalize whatever evil scheme is on the agenda, & US gov has been doing this since Creel Committee WWI.

    Just finished reading Patricia Cornwell's Depraved Heart, about a rogue former FBI agent/psychopath. Subplot involved "data fiction" --- same concept as Pieczenik's Apocalypse of Information. Cromwell even had a key element of the plot take place on Feb 14.

    No Person can trust anything US gov or media or think tank says.

    Dystopia.

    Crucial not to become paralyzed deer in headlights.

    In a world, approaching its information singularity at a dramatically increasing rate of acceleration, where facts/truths one day become fictions/fallacies the next, and vice versa; it may now be swiftly approaching its chaos singularity, as well.

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  259. wayfarer says:
    @Simply Simon
    Wayfarer , I know you are truly a man of peace and so am I. In my old age I have become so disgusted with the stupid wars we have been engaged in I am ready to call myself a pacifist. But like you, I have also earned an expert rifleman's medal, Fort Bragg, 1947. and stand ready to defend my home with a variety of weapons including an M1 Garand.

    I am a man of peace, absolute forgiveness though is something that will be unreachable for me, at least in this lifetime. Maybe in the next one.

    See you, on the other side.

    P.S. Really hoping to get there before you.

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    Wayfarer, there was a time when I visited nursing homes, and one of the old folks I met was a man who had been blind since birth. He was a sublime individual who had the faith of the innocent. One day I entered his room and his room mate said he had passed away. He told me Ollie's last words were, "I'm going upstairs." I am sure you know what he meant. Don't get there before I do, the world needs poets like you.
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  260. Derbyshire, you’re at it again.

    You say you are race realist. Here is a youtube by Ramzpaul where he states Muslims/Asians are the most prolific mass shooters in the USA.

    the chart starts at the 8:00 minute mark.

    Nicholas Cruz had a Jewish mother. He is Jewish as Jewishness is transmitted matrilineally.

    You are a philosemite who is afraid of Jews.

    You have a Chinese wife. She evolved differently from a Caucasian/European woman.

    Vinegary old maid…ditzy coed…how about a degenerate gentile male.

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    Defending Janet Reno is carrying chivalry too far.
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  261. wayfarer says:
    @Simply Simon
    Wayfarer , I know you are truly a man of peace and so am I. In my old age I have become so disgusted with the stupid wars we have been engaged in I am ready to call myself a pacifist. But like you, I have also earned an expert rifleman's medal, Fort Bragg, 1947. and stand ready to defend my home with a variety of weapons including an M1 Garand.

    Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death. – Sun Tzu

    That is for you, Simply Simon.

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    The trouble is Wayfarer, that the Generals do not regard soldiers as their children. If they did there would be no wars. Hopefully.
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  262. Paw says:
    @Randal

    Hysterics under the guidance of ideologues
     


    I’m a race realist; I think the different races have evolved overall differences in personality and behavior via natural selection, just as dog breeds have via artificial selection;
     
    Pithy, accurate statements of truth.

    Now every hysteria is to cover up something. The Monster Hysteria , like this, is to cover up
    MONSTER ARM BUILD UP IN USA , and that is exactly in urgent and bad NEED to remove it !!
    TRILLIONS DOLLARS SAY THEY ARE NEEDED FOR PEOPLE NOT AGAINST !!

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