The Unz Review - Mobile
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 BlogviewJohn Derbyshire Archive
“Like Nazis After 1945”
Never Forget The Bullet We Dodged When Hillary Was Defeated
🔊 Listen RSS
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information



=>
TrumpCNN

Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • BShow CommentNext New CommentNext New Reply
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

From time to time, our President displays a lack of self-restraint, allowing his inner nitwit to escape from its cage, as in his feuds with Mika Brzezinski and CNN. At least, that how it seems to me in my geezer-like way—I know younger Dissident Righters think it’s hilarious. Still, I can always console myself by reflecting on what a huge, lethal bullet the U.S.A. dodged last November.

By way of illustration, here’s something I picked up from the Twitter thread of anonymous tweeter “tcjfs“—that’s his Twitter handle—who is one of the most prolific and insightful tweeters on the Dissident Right.

There’s a link to a blog post at the blog of Jack Balkin (below left—email him) who is a Professor of Constitutional Law and the First Amendment at Yale Law School.

This particular post on Prof. Balkin’s blog is not by him, but by a different constitutional scholar, Prof. Mark Tushnet(below left) who teaches at Harvard Law School.

So we have a Harvard law professor writing on the blog of a Yale law professor. Dodged a bullet? What we dodged here was a heavy artillery barrage.

The blog post is dated May 6th last year, six months before the election, when all reasonable people—and who could be more reasonable than a couple of Ivy League Law School professors?—assumed that Mrs. Clinton would be the country’s next president.

Looking forward to that blessed prospect, Prof. Tushnet (right—email him) contributed this post at Prof. Balkin’s blog: “Abandoning Defensive Crouch Liberal Constitutionalism.” Opening four sentences:

Several generations of law students and their teachers grew up with federal courts dominated by conservatives. Not surprisingly, they found themselves wandering in the wilderness, looking for any sign of hope. The result: Defensive-crouch constitutionalism, with every liberal position asserted nervously, its proponents looking over their shoulders for retaliation by conservatives (in its elevated forms, fear of a backlash against aggressively liberal positions).

It’s time to stop.

Prof. Tushnet then lays out a program for Leftists, once they have swept to power in last November’s election, seizing all the commanding heights of constitutional jurisprudence.

The whole thing is too long to quote, and written in law-school-professor-speranto, so I’ll just pick out some highlights.

With a solid liberal majority on the Supreme Court, justices should, Prof. Tushnet tells us:

  • Overrule key cases. Prof. Tushnet offers a list. Head of the list is the 1978 Bakke ruling, that imposed some slight, cautious restraints on Affirmative Action in college admissions, ruling out blatant racial quotas, for example. According to Prof. Tushnet, the ruling amounted to “rejecting all the rationales for Affirmative Action that really matter.”
  • Deal sternly with what Prof. Tushnet calls “the losers in the culture war.” Quote: “The war’s over, and we won.” Further quote: “Taking a hard line seemed to work reasonably well in Germany and Japan after 1945.” This is what tjcfs means by treating us like “Nazis after 1945.” Just to remind you, this is a professor of constitutional law at America’s most prestigious law school.
  • “Exploit the ambiguities and loopholes in unfavorable precedents that aren’t worth overruling. The assumption here is that with Mrs. Clinton in the White House, liberal justices would be able to overrule anything at all; but where it’s too much trouble, a precedent should be interpreted with maximum progressive spin.
  • Be more ideological! Conservatives are too dimwitted consciously to practice ideological jurisprudence, although the results of their rulings are anti-progressive none the less. Progressives should have their ideology always in mind.
  • Be bold and triumphalist, like Justices Brennan and Marshall (Tushnet clerked for Thurgood Marshall in the early 70s)…not timid and accommodating like that squeaky little mouse Ruth Bader Ginsburg, whose “work as a judge has been shaped more than it should be by defensive crouch constitutionalism.”
  • Stop pandering to Justice Kennedy, whose vote won’t be crucial any more.

That’s an executive summary of Prof. Tushnet’s prescriptions last May at Prof. Balkin’s blog. He closes with the following, quote:

Of course all bets are off if Donald Trump becomes President. But if he does, constitutional doctrine is going to be the least of our worries.

Oh, I do hope so, Professor!

ORDER IT NOW

And a sidebar note here: On that sixth bullet point, the one where Professor Tushnet tells liberals to stop pandering to Justice Kennedy, he doesn’t actually use the words “stop pandering.” He actually uses an obscene four-letter verb with Justice Kennedy as its object: “F— Anthony Kennedy.” (Italics his, dashes ours.)

That, apparently, is how Ivy League law-school professors speak about their ideological opponents nowadays.

Further confirmation there of one of Radio Derb’s running themes: That progressives are the potty-mouth party. They are the faction that can’t speak or write a sentence—or at any rate, to be perfectly fair to Prof. Tushnet, a blog post—without a four-letter word in it.

These types can’t carry out connected thought for long without the reptilian brain stem breaking through to bark an obscenity. Their grip on reasoned discourse is not strong.

Self-restraint again: not always in evidence on the Right, to be sure, but well-nigh extinct on the Left, even among Ivy League law professors.

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He’s had two books published by VDARE.com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and From the Dissident Right II: Essays 2013. His writings are archived at JohnDerbyshire.com.

(Republished from VDare.com by permission of author or representative)
 
Hide 146 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to Ignore...to FollowEndorsed Only
    []
  1. Many Nazis had fairly nice lives and good careers after 1945; even those who were convicted of crimes often served only fairly limited sentences. Stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Auntie Analogue

    "Many Nazis had fairly nice lives and good careers after 1945; even those who were convicted of crimes often served only fairly limited sentences. Stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof."
     
    My dear German_reader, it wasn't that all Nazis were convicted or driven postwar from society, it was that everything and anything that was incorporated in their ideology and their being - even their ethno-nationality - was demonized, made verboten, turned into Perpetual German Guilt, to the point at which the vast majority of today's Germans are but deer paralyzed in the headlamps of the Afro-Islamic Invasion vehicle made p.c. impregnable and driven over them by Merkel and the rest of Europe's $ellout E$tabli$hment.

    Not "a stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof," but an entirely apt one as he and his ilk work tirelessly to demonize and proscribe any and all dissent against totalitarian Multi-Culti-Diversity Über Alles Open Border$ proglodysm. The vehicle of the progs is calculated to run over all, to turn anyone who dissents into legal roadkill.
    , @Seamus Padraig
    Some Nazis, like Reinhard Gehlen (founder of the Bundesnachrichtendienst) and Kurt Kiesinger (Bundeskanzellor, 1966-69), even held high office in the Bundesrepublik. Of course, they were now really serving another country, not Germany.
    , @Seamus Padraig
    By the way, German_reader, do you know how common such cases of 'rehabilitation' were in the DDR? I happen to know that both Ulbricht and Honecker had been legitimate members of the resistance before/during the war. But what about other high-ranking officials in post-war E. Germany?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc.
    AgreeDisagreeLOLTroll
    These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Troll, or LOL with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used once per hour.
    Ignore Commenter Follow Commenter
    Sharing Comment via Twitter
    /jderbyshire/like-nazis-after-1945/#comment-1924520
    More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  2. If affirmative action ends, the other body of anti-discrimination law will be open to attack, and if that goes, so will diversity.

    That would be glorious.

    The fashwave that is sweeping the West is in response to the general failures of liberal democracy, but it needs to start by taking out the Left’s most potent weapon against us, namely genetic eradication through outbreeding.

    And send the Irish back.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Sowhat
    Brett, I like your point. But, I do prefer potatoes to rice.
    , @annamaria
    'To this day, not a single European government has made the connection between Washington’s wars, supported by Europe, and the millions of refugees from Washington’s wars that are overrunning Europe"
    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/07/07/putins-assessment-trump-g-20-will-determine-future/
    "What is Syria about? Why is Washington so focused on overthrowing the elected president of Syria? What explains the sudden 21st century appearance of “the Muslim threat”? How is Washington’s preoccupation with “the Muslim threat” consistent with Washington’s wars against Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, and Assad, leaders who suppressed jihadism? What explains the sudden appearance of “the Russian threat” which has been hyped into dangerous Russophobia without any basis in fact?
    The Muslim threat, the Russian threat, and the lies used to destroy Iraq, Libya, and parts of Syria are all orchestrations to serve Israeli and neoconservative aspirations."

    The Lobby has become the cause of dramatic moral decline for Jewish tribe and, unfortunately, the Lobby has become the major threat for the European civilization

    , @Antonin Chigurh
    "And send the Irish back."

    F*ck off with the Divide and Conquer of white people, dirty little k*ike.
    , @Corvinus
    "If affirmative action ends, the other body of anti-discrimination law will be open to attack, and if that goes, so will diversity."

    One does not lead to the other. Anti-discrimination laws have a purpose here. You Southrons got too greedy with your application of Jim Crow.

    "The fashwave that is sweeping the West is in response to the general failures of liberal democracy, but it needs to start by taking out the Left’s most potent weapon against us, namely genetic eradication through outbreeding."

    White people will continue to make their own decisions regarding who they marry and sire offspring, whether it be within or outside their race. Good luck stripping anyone of their "potent weapon".

    "And send the Irish back."

    How mighty anti-white of you to say.

    And, as a aside, political attitudes are PARTLY genetic. Prior studies found that variations in the DRD4 gene were linked to a person’s political views, but only in limited circumstances. “It requires a context in which people are exposed to certain social environments,” said psychologist Richard P. Ebstein, who indicated that the number of friends one has is a mitigating factor.
    , @Hibernian
    "And send the Irish back."

    Sorry, I refuse to cut myself into three parts and send 5/8 of myself to Ireland and 3/8 elsewhere.
    , @Coemgen

    And send the Irish back
     
    I'll take my forty acres and mule somewhere on the Dingle Peninsula. Thank you.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  3. dearieme says:

    “progressives are the potty-mouth party”: they are pretending to be manly.

    Read More
    • Agree: dcthrowback
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  4. For an insightful view of the current Trump/CNN/#CNNBlackmail brouhaha, please read “Trump The Ironclad Chad” at:

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com

    “Glorious…[Trump] is such a Chad that he is murdering postmodernism right before our very eyes, using nothing more than a free Twitter account. Infinite jest indeed.”

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  5. JackOH says:

    Good grief! At some primitive, unreflective level, I’m not sure I see all that much difference between Nazi ideology enabling some German Gentiles to muscle German Jews, and America’s affirmative action, which has enabled the muscling of White guys out of jobs and career prospects. Thanks, Derb, for this look into the minds of our overlords.

    Read More
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus

    I’m not sure I see all that much difference between Nazi ideology enabling some German Gentiles to muscle German Jews, and America’s affirmative action, which has enabled the muscling of White guys out of jobs and career prospects.
     
    You've got your parallels skewed:

    Let's set "German Gentiles" = the native people of Germany, or NP
    and
    German Jews = non-native people in Germany who are demanding rights superior to the natives.
    For clarity's sake, call them Alien/Others, or A/O

    "Original Americans" (i.e. post-indigenous Amerindians) = the native people of USA, or NP
    and
    Non-natives demanding Affirmative Action in USA = A/O

    Thus,
    NP = German Gentiles = Native Americans
    A/O = German Jews = non-natives who demand special status

    If your statement expressed the logical parallels, it would read:


    I’m not sure I see all that much difference between
    [I] Jewish ideology
    [A/Os] enabling some German Jews
    [NPs] to muscle German Gentiles ,

    and
    [I] America’s affirmative action ,
    [A/O] which has enabled the muscling [by A/Os]
    [NP] of White guys [NPs] out of jobs and career prospects.
     

    BE AWARE that the Jews who were causing problems for the German people in the period in question were predominantly Eastern European Jews.
    a. In Feb. 1933, Louis Brandeis, effectively the "leader" of zionist Jews worldwide, directed that "all Jews leave Germany . . . all 587,000 GERMAN Jews . . ."
    and
    b. In a statement in 1935, German ambassador Hans Luther explained that National Socialism's "Jewish problem" involved those Jews who were relatively new migrants to Germany and did not share German culture and values, and not those German Jews who had been part of the German people for many generations.

    ALSO realize that Eastern European Jews had experienced an epiphenomenal rate of growth -- iirc about a seven-fold increase in less than two generations, a rate of reproduction greatly in excess of any other demographic group in the region. The overflow of that over-bred, restive population migrated to Germany from Poland and Russia. In Germany (and Austria) they demanded entrance to the finest universities in the land, displacing the NPs; they burdened employment, forcing native Germans out of jobs that A/Os took.

    ALSO realize that the measures taken by the Third Reich were debated in the German parliament and enacted by German lawmakers -- they were NOT instances of Hitler acting as a unitary executive, nor were they particularly arbitrary, and the German Jewish population at the time registered their assent to the measures.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  6. @German_reader
    Many Nazis had fairly nice lives and good careers after 1945; even those who were convicted of crimes often served only fairly limited sentences. Stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof.

    “Many Nazis had fairly nice lives and good careers after 1945; even those who were convicted of crimes often served only fairly limited sentences. Stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof.”

    My dear German_reader, it wasn’t that all Nazis were convicted or driven postwar from society, it was that everything and anything that was incorporated in their ideology and their being – even their ethno-nationality – was demonized, made verboten, turned into Perpetual German Guilt, to the point at which the vast majority of today’s Germans are but deer paralyzed in the headlamps of the Afro-Islamic Invasion vehicle made p.c. impregnable and driven over them by Merkel and the rest of Europe’s $ellout E$tabli$hment.

    Not “a stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof,” but an entirely apt one as he and his ilk work tirelessly to demonize and proscribe any and all dissent against totalitarian Multi-Culti-Diversity Über Alles Open Border$ proglodysm. The vehicle of the progs is calculated to run over all, to turn anyone who dissents into legal roadkill.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Wally
    Indeed, it boils down to this:

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Also recall that at Nuremberg 'the court was not bound by technical rules of evidence.'

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    " The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history."
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    A nice nugget:
    Stauffenberg & Co. never claimed anything like an extermination program as one of their motives for their attempted coup.

    The Holocaustian Propaganda-Campaign against Bashar al-Assad
    http://codoh.com/library/document/4764/?lang=en

    , @JackOH
    Auntie, you nailed it. The goal of our masters is to poison, by propaganda and legislation, whole categories of thought and feeling once regarded as pretty normal and healthy. What makes Unz Review so startling is that most of the stuff we talk about is unobjectionable, but our masters have improperly shunted much of the talk here into the political cesspools of racism and so on..

    I saw the soft chains of internalized censorship, i. e., self-censorship, among economically comfortable West Germans when I used to travel there semi-regularly before the fall of the Wall. Looks like they're paying a pretty severe price for that abridged political consciousness they had to live with. Most of us here, like the West Germans, have enough folding money for consumer goods, but the compass of our political thought is very small. We're being played.

    I think Kafka, Richard Matheson, and other fiction writers have covered the phenomena of alienation, "stranger in a strange land" discombobulation, which is what a lot of us are talking about.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  7. Wally says: • Website
    @Auntie Analogue

    "Many Nazis had fairly nice lives and good careers after 1945; even those who were convicted of crimes often served only fairly limited sentences. Stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof."
     
    My dear German_reader, it wasn't that all Nazis were convicted or driven postwar from society, it was that everything and anything that was incorporated in their ideology and their being - even their ethno-nationality - was demonized, made verboten, turned into Perpetual German Guilt, to the point at which the vast majority of today's Germans are but deer paralyzed in the headlamps of the Afro-Islamic Invasion vehicle made p.c. impregnable and driven over them by Merkel and the rest of Europe's $ellout E$tabli$hment.

    Not "a stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof," but an entirely apt one as he and his ilk work tirelessly to demonize and proscribe any and all dissent against totalitarian Multi-Culti-Diversity Über Alles Open Border$ proglodysm. The vehicle of the progs is calculated to run over all, to turn anyone who dissents into legal roadkill.

    Indeed, it boils down to this:

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    Also recall that at Nuremberg ‘the court was not bound by technical rules of evidence.’

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    ” The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history.”
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    A nice nugget:
    Stauffenberg & Co. never claimed anything like an extermination program as one of their motives for their attempted coup.

    The Holocaustian Propaganda-Campaign against Bashar al-Assad

    http://codoh.com/library/document/4764/?lang=en

    Read More
    • Replies: @jack ryan
    I'm seeing lots of people who should know better simply parroting the same old, same old lies that ASSAD is the New HITLER = Assad is about to gas thousands, maybe 6 million little children etc.

    Yep a parrot.

    We commissioned a cartoon on this subject

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/jpg-Parrot.jpg
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  8. Why don’t you use the phrase he actually used about Justice Kennedy? It makes your point most eloquently.

    Read More
    • Replies: @John Derbyshire
    Too old-fashioned; and VDARE.com, where this first appeared, anyway doesn't allow taboo words because they'd be too bot-blocked if they did.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  9. JackOH says:
    @Auntie Analogue

    "Many Nazis had fairly nice lives and good careers after 1945; even those who were convicted of crimes often served only fairly limited sentences. Stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof."
     
    My dear German_reader, it wasn't that all Nazis were convicted or driven postwar from society, it was that everything and anything that was incorporated in their ideology and their being - even their ethno-nationality - was demonized, made verboten, turned into Perpetual German Guilt, to the point at which the vast majority of today's Germans are but deer paralyzed in the headlamps of the Afro-Islamic Invasion vehicle made p.c. impregnable and driven over them by Merkel and the rest of Europe's $ellout E$tabli$hment.

    Not "a stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof," but an entirely apt one as he and his ilk work tirelessly to demonize and proscribe any and all dissent against totalitarian Multi-Culti-Diversity Über Alles Open Border$ proglodysm. The vehicle of the progs is calculated to run over all, to turn anyone who dissents into legal roadkill.

    Auntie, you nailed it. The goal of our masters is to poison, by propaganda and legislation, whole categories of thought and feeling once regarded as pretty normal and healthy. What makes Unz Review so startling is that most of the stuff we talk about is unobjectionable, but our masters have improperly shunted much of the talk here into the political cesspools of racism and so on..

    I saw the soft chains of internalized censorship, i. e., self-censorship, among economically comfortable West Germans when I used to travel there semi-regularly before the fall of the Wall. Looks like they’re paying a pretty severe price for that abridged political consciousness they had to live with. Most of us here, like the West Germans, have enough folding money for consumer goods, but the compass of our political thought is very small. We’re being played.

    I think Kafka, Richard Matheson, and other fiction writers have covered the phenomena of alienation, “stranger in a strange land” discombobulation, which is what a lot of us are talking about.

    Read More
    • Replies: @jacques sheete

    We’re being played.
     
    Amen.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  10. Rob McX says:

    We’re told the lesson to be learned from the Holocaust is that we must stop it from happening again by opening up our countries to Africa and the rest of the Third World. Funny nobody thought of that after the Thirty Years’ War. Great swathes of Europe ruined and depopulated, so what’s the solution? Africans, millions of them!

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  11. iffen says:

    On the topic of Nazis and such, I thought it was cosmically ironic for the ADL to tell Congresscritter Higgins that Auschwitz should not be used for political purposes.

    Read More
    • LOL: Seamus Padraig
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  12. anarchyst says:

    Questions for holocaust™ promoters and supporters:
    1. Why build camps with facilities suitable for long-term occupation if the only “purpose” of these camps is extermination?
    2. Why build camps with dining facilities, theaters, swimming pools and other recreational facilities, if the only purpose of these camps was for extermination?
    3. Why transport supposed genocide victims hundreds if not thousands of miles to these camps? The cost of transportation would have been tremendous.
    If the desired result is extermination, why expend massive energy expenditures to transport the supposed genocide victims to these camps?
    4. How were the so-called “gas chambers” used, with engineering errors, such as disconnected chimneys, the absence of “gas tight” doors, doors that open in the wrong direction, and no protection for the “operators” of these facilities?
    5. How does one square the “six million” claim with the fact that there were hundreds of thousands MORE Jews in Europe immediately after the end of WW2?
    6. How can holocaust™ promoters claim that the German crematoria system was able to process thousands of bodies per day when it takes HOURS to process one body? In reality, it would have taken much more time, into the 1950′s to process the numbers…of individuals that they claim were cremated.
    7. Why criminalize honest investigation into the holocaust™, “using kangaroo courts” to prosecute those who perform honest investigation into this “event” while disallowing TRUTH to be presented into evidence–evidence that runs counter to “official holocaust™ orthodoxy”, while disallowing challenges of questionable and outlandish claims by so-called holocaust™ “survivors”?
    8. Where is the evidence that there was a “master plan” for extermination? Even holocaust™ promoters admit that no such documents ever existed, even making the claim that over 90% of what they state as TRUTH cannot be proven–only the (questionable) “testimony” of holocaust™ “survivors”, most of who never saw the inside of a camp. However, when it comes to prosecution of holocaust “deniers”, the hearsay and fabrications of holocaust™ promoters are taken as TRUTH while those on trial are not permitted to enter their REAL evidence into the court records. WHY?
    Conclusion: The holocaust™ is one of the greatest SCAMS inflicted on Germany and the world. It is long overdue to expose the lies and fabrications and put this (non)event into the “trashbin of history”…

    Read More
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus

    6. How can holocaust™ promoters claim that the German crematoria system was able to process thousands of bodies per day when it takes HOURS to process one body? In reality, it would have taken much more time, into the 1950′s to process the numbers…of individuals that they claim were cremated.
     
    William Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" shaped understandings about WWII of hundreds of thousands of readers.

    Shirer opens his book with an explanation of how the documents he claims to have used were obtained, in a manner "unique in all of history." Hundreds of thousands of tons of German documents were removed from Germany by Allied forces and stored in a warehouse in Alexandria, VA.

    Shirer writes:

    The 485 tons of records of the German Foreign Office, captured by the U.S. First Army in various castles and mines in the Harz Mountains just as they were about to be burned on orders from Berlin, cover not only the period of the Third Reich but go back through the Weimar Republic to the beginning of the Second Reich of Bismarck.
     
    Isn't it interesting that the Germans were not able to incinerate 485 tons of documents, presumably mostly paper, that burns relatively quickly, but they were accused, convicted, condemned for having burned up -- in some cases, having buried, then dug up, then holocausted -- 6 million human bodies.
    Let's say the average body weighed 100 lbs; that's 300,000 tons of human flesh and bone.
    , @Anon
    Camps like Auschwitz were primarily work camps. Incoming customers were separated into those marked for immediate extermination and those destined for slave labor. That's why such camps had facilities such as shower blocks, accommodation etc. Other camps such as Sobibor were set up purely as extermination camps and did not have any such facilities. I'm neither a holocaust denier or believer, a lot of the facts are missing, but you need to do some basic reading before asking these sorts of questions.
    , @Dr. X
    As to Points 1-4: The concentration camps were originally set up as labor camps for political prisoners, not extermination camps. These of course included many Jewish communists. However, there were relatively few Jews in Germany. After Germany conquered Poland and invaded the USSR, they had many more Jews on their hands in occupied territories in a war zone. That's where most of the camps were located. Auschwitz, for instance, is in Poland.

    According to Ian Kershaw's history, the extermination sort of evolved (my word, not his) after Germany lost at Stalingrad and began to lose the Eastern Front. Prior to that, they had no fixed plan for the Jews other than to drive them out after they defeated Russia. When that didn't happen they had to come up with a "Final Solution." Actual death camps, as opposed to labor camps, were all in occupied Poland where average Germans wouldn't know about them.

    As far as the "gas chambers" are concerned there are indeed many questions. However, einsatzgruppen did come up with improvised gassing methods by locking Jews into trucks and piping carbon monoxide diesel fumes in.

    There are many questions about the Holocaust, and doubtless Jews exaggerated and possibly fabricated many claims, but there really isn't any doubt that large numbers of civilian Jews in the East were dealt with harshly and extrajudicially.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  13. hyperbola says:

    Now what sect controls both Harvard and Yale? Seems to be this one. “Progressives” should be screaming loudly about a racist-supremacist sect claiming to speak for them.

    Stalin’s Jews
    We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    Read More
    • Replies: @annamaria
    Yes, the truth is coming out: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
    "An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD [a precursor of KGB]. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system.
    Stalin's close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the "first Stalinist" and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao's terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.
    Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
    In 1934 [time of red terror], according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. "

    Looks like Russians are incredibly tolerant people.

    The ongoing slaughter in the Middle East is not a fluke - it is manifestation of the tribal character. Same in Ukraine, where Nuland & Kolomojsky have brought to power the local neo-Nazis who are only happy to desecrate the mass graves of victims of the WWII.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  14. Sowhat says:
    @Brett Stevens
    If affirmative action ends, the other body of anti-discrimination law will be open to attack, and if that goes, so will diversity.

    That would be glorious.

    The fashwave that is sweeping the West is in response to the general failures of liberal democracy, but it needs to start by taking out the Left's most potent weapon against us, namely genetic eradication through outbreeding.

    And send the Irish back.

    Brett, I like your point. But, I do prefer potatoes to rice.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  15. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Has anyone heard how Tushnet’s daughter Eve, the big time social conservative Catholic convert, took this argument of her dad’s?

    It’s funny how all those social conservatives with lesbian daughters felt the need to support gay marriage, but the liberal with a celibate lesbian daughter feels no need to be minimally polite about her lifestyle choice.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    It’s funny how all those social conservatives with lesbian daughters felt the need to support gay marriage, but the liberal with a celibate lesbian daughter feels no need to be minimally polite about her lifestyle choice.

    The only people I can think of who might resemble some part of your description would be Alan Keyes, Elizabeth Scalia, Laura Ingraham, and Rob Portman. Only Keyes has a problem daughter. Scalia and Ingraham have problem brothers and Portman has a problem son. Portman's not a 'social conservative'; he's an haut bourgeois careerist politician / lawyer - just one who found a Republican affiliation expedient. I'm fairly sure at least two of the other three never endorsed homosexual pseudogamy. Keyes has been estranged from his daughter for periods of time as well. Is there someone I missed?

    Eve Tushnet is regarded with some skepticism by certain Catholic writers:

    http://www.crisismagazine.com/2013/the-new-homophiles
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  16. @anarchyst
    Questions for holocaust™ promoters and supporters:
    1. Why build camps with facilities suitable for long-term occupation if the only "purpose" of these camps is extermination?
    2. Why build camps with dining facilities, theaters, swimming pools and other recreational facilities, if the only purpose of these camps was for extermination?
    3. Why transport supposed genocide victims hundreds if not thousands of miles to these camps? The cost of transportation would have been tremendous.
    If the desired result is extermination, why expend massive energy expenditures to transport the supposed genocide victims to these camps?
    4. How were the so-called "gas chambers" used, with engineering errors, such as disconnected chimneys, the absence of "gas tight" doors, doors that open in the wrong direction, and no protection for the "operators" of these facilities?
    5. How does one square the "six million" claim with the fact that there were hundreds of thousands MORE Jews in Europe immediately after the end of WW2?
    6. How can holocaust™ promoters claim that the German crematoria system was able to process thousands of bodies per day when it takes HOURS to process one body? In reality, it would have taken much more time, into the 1950's to process the numbers...of individuals that they claim were cremated.
    7. Why criminalize honest investigation into the holocaust™, "using kangaroo courts" to prosecute those who perform honest investigation into this "event" while disallowing TRUTH to be presented into evidence--evidence that runs counter to "official holocaust™ orthodoxy", while disallowing challenges of questionable and outlandish claims by so-called holocaust™ "survivors"?
    8. Where is the evidence that there was a "master plan" for extermination? Even holocaust™ promoters admit that no such documents ever existed, even making the claim that over 90% of what they state as TRUTH cannot be proven--only the (questionable) "testimony" of holocaust™ "survivors", most of who never saw the inside of a camp. However, when it comes to prosecution of holocaust "deniers", the hearsay and fabrications of holocaust™ promoters are taken as TRUTH while those on trial are not permitted to enter their REAL evidence into the court records. WHY?
    Conclusion: The holocaust™ is one of the greatest SCAMS inflicted on Germany and the world. It is long overdue to expose the lies and fabrications and put this (non)event into the "trashbin of history"...

    6. How can holocaust™ promoters claim that the German crematoria system was able to process thousands of bodies per day when it takes HOURS to process one body? In reality, it would have taken much more time, into the 1950′s to process the numbers…of individuals that they claim were cremated.

    William Shirer’s “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” shaped understandings about WWII of hundreds of thousands of readers.

    Shirer opens his book with an explanation of how the documents he claims to have used were obtained, in a manner “unique in all of history.” Hundreds of thousands of tons of German documents were removed from Germany by Allied forces and stored in a warehouse in Alexandria, VA.

    Shirer writes:

    The 485 tons of records of the German Foreign Office, captured by the U.S. First Army in various castles and mines in the Harz Mountains just as they were about to be burned on orders from Berlin, cover not only the period of the Third Reich but go back through the Weimar Republic to the beginning of the Second Reich of Bismarck.

    Isn’t it interesting that the Germans were not able to incinerate 485 tons of documents, presumably mostly paper, that burns relatively quickly, but they were accused, convicted, condemned for having burned up — in some cases, having buried, then dug up, then holocausted — 6 million human bodies.
    Let’s say the average body weighed 100 lbs; that’s 300,000 tons of human flesh and bone.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anon
    Ah but your calculations miss the fat. Of course it wasn't out of SS benevolence that all those extra rations were got in to help build up some rather thin pieces of human fuel. As a jolly old SS Corporal told me they were a sentimental lot who got terribly nostalgic for the good old crackle of pork fat.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  17. Truth says:

    From time to time, our President displays a lack of self-restraint, allowing his inner nitwit to escape from its cage, as in his feuds with Mika Brzezinski and CNN.

    Q: When does he ever contain his inner nitwit in it’s cage?

    A: Seemingly never.

    Logical Conclusion: He’s simply a nitwit. How convincing would be a German Sheppard’s imitation of your Son? Your Son’s of a German Sheppard?

    He acts the we he acts because he’s not acting, and miraculously, we went through the same idiocy when Boy George was making a fool of himself on a daily basis 16 years ago, I.E.; “Waaal he’s still Better’n John Care-eeee!, free-dum fries!!!”

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  18. @JackOH
    Good grief! At some primitive, unreflective level, I'm not sure I see all that much difference between Nazi ideology enabling some German Gentiles to muscle German Jews, and America's affirmative action, which has enabled the muscling of White guys out of jobs and career prospects. Thanks, Derb, for this look into the minds of our overlords.

    I’m not sure I see all that much difference between Nazi ideology enabling some German Gentiles to muscle German Jews, and America’s affirmative action, which has enabled the muscling of White guys out of jobs and career prospects.

    You’ve got your parallels skewed:

    Let’s set “German Gentiles” = the native people of Germany, or NP
    and
    German Jews = non-native people in Germany who are demanding rights superior to the natives.
    For clarity’s sake, call them Alien/Others, or A/O

    “Original Americans” (i.e. post-indigenous Amerindians) = the native people of USA, or NP
    and
    Non-natives demanding Affirmative Action in USA = A/O

    Thus,
    NP = German Gentiles = Native Americans
    A/O = German Jews = non-natives who demand special status

    If your statement expressed the logical parallels, it would read:

    I’m not sure I see all that much difference between
    [I] Jewish ideology
    [A/Os] enabling some German Jews
    [NPs] to muscle German Gentiles ,

    and
    [I] America’s affirmative action ,
    [A/O] which has enabled the muscling [by A/Os]
    [NP] of White guys [NPs] out of jobs and career prospects.

    BE AWARE that the Jews who were causing problems for the German people in the period in question were predominantly Eastern European Jews.
    a. In Feb. 1933, Louis Brandeis, effectively the “leader” of zionist Jews worldwide, directed that “all Jews leave Germany . . . all 587,000 GERMAN Jews . . .”
    and
    b. In a statement in 1935, German ambassador Hans Luther explained that National Socialism’s “Jewish problem” involved those Jews who were relatively new migrants to Germany and did not share German culture and values, and not those German Jews who had been part of the German people for many generations.

    ALSO realize that Eastern European Jews had experienced an epiphenomenal rate of growth — iirc about a seven-fold increase in less than two generations, a rate of reproduction greatly in excess of any other demographic group in the region. The overflow of that over-bred, restive population migrated to Germany from Poland and Russia. In Germany (and Austria) they demanded entrance to the finest universities in the land, displacing the NPs; they burdened employment, forcing native Germans out of jobs that A/Os took.

    ALSO realize that the measures taken by the Third Reich were debated in the German parliament and enacted by German lawmakers — they were NOT instances of Hitler acting as a unitary executive, nor were they particularly arbitrary, and the German Jewish population at the time registered their assent to the measures.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  19. nsa says:

    Jooies are under 2% of the population……but 25% of the Harvard student body and 27% of the Yale student body. What else do you need to know about Harvard and Yale?

    Read More
    • Replies: @henry_bowman
    Seems like Jews are smarter than Gentiles. Or is there some other conclusion to draw from your comment?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  20. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @anarchyst
    Questions for holocaust™ promoters and supporters:
    1. Why build camps with facilities suitable for long-term occupation if the only "purpose" of these camps is extermination?
    2. Why build camps with dining facilities, theaters, swimming pools and other recreational facilities, if the only purpose of these camps was for extermination?
    3. Why transport supposed genocide victims hundreds if not thousands of miles to these camps? The cost of transportation would have been tremendous.
    If the desired result is extermination, why expend massive energy expenditures to transport the supposed genocide victims to these camps?
    4. How were the so-called "gas chambers" used, with engineering errors, such as disconnected chimneys, the absence of "gas tight" doors, doors that open in the wrong direction, and no protection for the "operators" of these facilities?
    5. How does one square the "six million" claim with the fact that there were hundreds of thousands MORE Jews in Europe immediately after the end of WW2?
    6. How can holocaust™ promoters claim that the German crematoria system was able to process thousands of bodies per day when it takes HOURS to process one body? In reality, it would have taken much more time, into the 1950's to process the numbers...of individuals that they claim were cremated.
    7. Why criminalize honest investigation into the holocaust™, "using kangaroo courts" to prosecute those who perform honest investigation into this "event" while disallowing TRUTH to be presented into evidence--evidence that runs counter to "official holocaust™ orthodoxy", while disallowing challenges of questionable and outlandish claims by so-called holocaust™ "survivors"?
    8. Where is the evidence that there was a "master plan" for extermination? Even holocaust™ promoters admit that no such documents ever existed, even making the claim that over 90% of what they state as TRUTH cannot be proven--only the (questionable) "testimony" of holocaust™ "survivors", most of who never saw the inside of a camp. However, when it comes to prosecution of holocaust "deniers", the hearsay and fabrications of holocaust™ promoters are taken as TRUTH while those on trial are not permitted to enter their REAL evidence into the court records. WHY?
    Conclusion: The holocaust™ is one of the greatest SCAMS inflicted on Germany and the world. It is long overdue to expose the lies and fabrications and put this (non)event into the "trashbin of history"...

    Camps like Auschwitz were primarily work camps. Incoming customers were separated into those marked for immediate extermination and those destined for slave labor. That’s why such camps had facilities such as shower blocks, accommodation etc. Other camps such as Sobibor were set up purely as extermination camps and did not have any such facilities. I’m neither a holocaust denier or believer, a lot of the facts are missing, but you need to do some basic reading before asking these sorts of questions.

    Read More
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    I have done my "homework". According to official International Red Cross records, released by the Soviets, approximately 731,000 non-combatant civilians perished as a result of WW2--NOT "6 million ™". The International Red Cross had access to ALL of the camps and closely monitored them. If there was "extermination" going on, they most certainly would have publicized it.
    Typhus was the major cause of death in the camps-NOT "extermination". As supply lines were destroyed by the Allies, typhus was rampant.
    Another interesting fact is, at the end of WW2, camp inhabitants CHOSE to go with the Germans to avoid the Soviet onslaught. IF "extermination" was the primary goal, why would survivors choose to go with their enemies?
    The so-called holocaust™ is one of the greatest frauds known to mankind. It is long overdue for the German people to throw off the shackles imposed on them by world jewry...
    Germans were excellent engineers. As such, the egregious engineering errors evident at Auschwitz and other camps PROVE that the holocaust™ was a fabrication (and a major "cash cow) which keeps "giving and giving. I guess, "there's NO business like SHOAH business"...
    , @SolontoCroesus

    Incoming customers were separated into those marked for immediate extermination and those destined for slave labor. That’s why such camps had facilities such as shower blocks, accommodation etc. Other camps such as Sobibor were set up purely as extermination camps and did not have any such facilities.
     
    From your "basic reading," please provide solid evidence for:

    1. Where were those who were "marked for exterminated" exterminated? What happened to their corpses? We have all seen images of corpses with numbers tattooed on their arms; why did the Germans go to the trouble of tattooing someone "marked for immediate extermination?"

    2. If it is indeed the case that Germans tattooed people that were intended to be exterminated, did they follow through and record their death? Where are the death certificates? Does Yad Vashem demand that any name enrolled on its list of the holocausted provide evidence of their death, and that it was at the hands of the Germans? When my parents died, I had to present a death certificate before I could enter the home where I grew up. Verifying death is one of the rituals societies have carried out for millennia.

    3. Were those showers dual use or should we understand that when the holocaust narrative speaks of "showers disguised as gas chambers" that there were TWO different sets of showers?

    4. #2 applies to Auschwitz; at Sobibor, where were people exterminated? When? How? Where are their remains? Were people in Sobibor tattooed with numbers? If so, why?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  21. @Obstinatus Ludificator
    Why don't you use the phrase he actually used about Justice Kennedy? It makes your point most eloquently.

    Too old-fashioned; and VDARE.com, where this first appeared, anyway doesn’t allow taboo words because they’d be too bot-blocked if they did.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  22. anarchyst says:
    @Anon
    Camps like Auschwitz were primarily work camps. Incoming customers were separated into those marked for immediate extermination and those destined for slave labor. That's why such camps had facilities such as shower blocks, accommodation etc. Other camps such as Sobibor were set up purely as extermination camps and did not have any such facilities. I'm neither a holocaust denier or believer, a lot of the facts are missing, but you need to do some basic reading before asking these sorts of questions.

    I have done my “homework”. According to official International Red Cross records, released by the Soviets, approximately 731,000 non-combatant civilians perished as a result of WW2–NOT “6 million ™”. The International Red Cross had access to ALL of the camps and closely monitored them. If there was “extermination” going on, they most certainly would have publicized it.
    Typhus was the major cause of death in the camps-NOT “extermination”. As supply lines were destroyed by the Allies, typhus was rampant.
    Another interesting fact is, at the end of WW2, camp inhabitants CHOSE to go with the Germans to avoid the Soviet onslaught. IF “extermination” was the primary goal, why would survivors choose to go with their enemies?
    The so-called holocaust™ is one of the greatest frauds known to mankind. It is long overdue for the German people to throw off the shackles imposed on them by world jewry…
    Germans were excellent engineers. As such, the egregious engineering errors evident at Auschwitz and other camps PROVE that the holocaust™ was a fabrication (and a major “cash cow) which keeps “giving and giving. I guess, “there’s NO business like SHOAH business”…

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anon
    Are you the simple minded ill-educated Wally's identical twin?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  23. annamaria says:
    @Brett Stevens
    If affirmative action ends, the other body of anti-discrimination law will be open to attack, and if that goes, so will diversity.

    That would be glorious.

    The fashwave that is sweeping the West is in response to the general failures of liberal democracy, but it needs to start by taking out the Left's most potent weapon against us, namely genetic eradication through outbreeding.

    And send the Irish back.

    ‘To this day, not a single European government has made the connection between Washington’s wars, supported by Europe, and the millions of refugees from Washington’s wars that are overrunning Europe”

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/07/07/putins-assessment-trump-g-20-will-determine-future/

    “What is Syria about? Why is Washington so focused on overthrowing the elected president of Syria? What explains the sudden 21st century appearance of “the Muslim threat”? How is Washington’s preoccupation with “the Muslim threat” consistent with Washington’s wars against Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, and Assad, leaders who suppressed jihadism? What explains the sudden appearance of “the Russian threat” which has been hyped into dangerous Russophobia without any basis in fact?
    The Muslim threat, the Russian threat, and the lies used to destroy Iraq, Libya, and parts of Syria are all orchestrations to serve Israeli and neoconservative aspirations.”

    The Lobby has become the cause of dramatic moral decline for Jewish tribe and, unfortunately, the Lobby has become the major threat for the European civilization

    Read More
    • Replies: @Brett Stevens
    The refugees coming into Europe are not from Washington's wars, but the massive increase in third world population without a corresponding increase in production. They are coming to Europe for the free social benefits and the ability to conquer. They would have done this anyway, but only now are these societies so blinded by Leftism that they will let them in, give them free money and housing, and look the other way while they rape their way across the continent. Remember that Merkel et al. started this current wave by inviting the 'fugees in so that they could work, be taxed, and pay for Baby Boomer retirement programs.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  24. Agent76 says:

    Really? Jul 7, 2016 The Close Relationship Between Donald Trump and the Clintons

    Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton act as if they are arch enemies. But is it all just politics?

    Jun 6, 2013 6 Corporations That Control Your Perception

    Abby Martin goes over the 6 corporations that control nearly everything in the mainstream media, and discusses a few of the most famous cases of media censorship with BTS producer, Manuel Rapalo.

    Read More
    • Replies: @annamaria
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/07/this-is-what-plutocracy-looks-like/

    "The howls of outrage coming from displaced Democrats would be hilarious if they weren’t so pathetic. Quickly, who wrote Barack Obama’s ‘signature’ legislation, the ACA (Affordable Care Act)? A health insurance industry lobbyist named Liz Fowler wrote it. Who are the intended beneficiaries from the ISDS (Investor-State Dispute Settlement) provisions of the TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) ‘free’ trade agreement that Mr. Obama so vigorously supported? Wall Street, hedge funds and multi-national corporations at the expense of national, state and local governments and their citizens.
    Barack Obama was the ‘deporter in chief’ of economic refugees from Mexico displaced by Bill Clinton’s passage of NAFTA. Mr. Obama’s Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, supported a right-wing coup in Honduras and then argued that the orphaned child-refugees fleeing the resulting violence should be forcibly returned there.
    The charge here isn’t that ‘both parties do it,’ but rather that they— Democrats and Republicans, are partners on the side of reigning plutocrats in a class war against a broadly-defined global working class. "
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  25. @German_reader
    Many Nazis had fairly nice lives and good careers after 1945; even those who were convicted of crimes often served only fairly limited sentences. Stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof.

    Some Nazis, like Reinhard Gehlen (founder of the Bundesnachrichtendienst) and Kurt Kiesinger (Bundeskanzellor, 1966-69), even held high office in the Bundesrepublik. Of course, they were now really serving another country, not Germany.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  26. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @SolontoCroesus

    6. How can holocaust™ promoters claim that the German crematoria system was able to process thousands of bodies per day when it takes HOURS to process one body? In reality, it would have taken much more time, into the 1950′s to process the numbers…of individuals that they claim were cremated.
     
    William Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" shaped understandings about WWII of hundreds of thousands of readers.

    Shirer opens his book with an explanation of how the documents he claims to have used were obtained, in a manner "unique in all of history." Hundreds of thousands of tons of German documents were removed from Germany by Allied forces and stored in a warehouse in Alexandria, VA.

    Shirer writes:

    The 485 tons of records of the German Foreign Office, captured by the U.S. First Army in various castles and mines in the Harz Mountains just as they were about to be burned on orders from Berlin, cover not only the period of the Third Reich but go back through the Weimar Republic to the beginning of the Second Reich of Bismarck.
     
    Isn't it interesting that the Germans were not able to incinerate 485 tons of documents, presumably mostly paper, that burns relatively quickly, but they were accused, convicted, condemned for having burned up -- in some cases, having buried, then dug up, then holocausted -- 6 million human bodies.
    Let's say the average body weighed 100 lbs; that's 300,000 tons of human flesh and bone.

    Ah but your calculations miss the fat. Of course it wasn’t out of SS benevolence that all those extra rations were got in to help build up some rather thin pieces of human fuel. As a jolly old SS Corporal told me they were a sentimental lot who got terribly nostalgic for the good old crackle of pork fat.

    Read More
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    Is there a substantive argument in your word pile, Anon?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  27. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @anarchyst
    I have done my "homework". According to official International Red Cross records, released by the Soviets, approximately 731,000 non-combatant civilians perished as a result of WW2--NOT "6 million ™". The International Red Cross had access to ALL of the camps and closely monitored them. If there was "extermination" going on, they most certainly would have publicized it.
    Typhus was the major cause of death in the camps-NOT "extermination". As supply lines were destroyed by the Allies, typhus was rampant.
    Another interesting fact is, at the end of WW2, camp inhabitants CHOSE to go with the Germans to avoid the Soviet onslaught. IF "extermination" was the primary goal, why would survivors choose to go with their enemies?
    The so-called holocaust™ is one of the greatest frauds known to mankind. It is long overdue for the German people to throw off the shackles imposed on them by world jewry...
    Germans were excellent engineers. As such, the egregious engineering errors evident at Auschwitz and other camps PROVE that the holocaust™ was a fabrication (and a major "cash cow) which keeps "giving and giving. I guess, "there's NO business like SHOAH business"...

    Are you the simple minded ill-educated Wally’s identical twin?

    Read More
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    Nope, just an independent free thinker that has come to many of the same conclusions as Wally...
    "Simple-minded"? "Ill-educated"?...not at all.
    Simply smart and able to cut through the holocaust™ BS...unlike you who has swallowed the holocaust™ BS "hook line and sinker"...THINK, McFly, THINK...
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  28. nickels says:

    Agreed that without Trump things would be worse, yet, we should not be lulled into thinking that Mr. ‘Russia should stop destabilizing Ukraine’ changes the fact that the American government is still a 100% illegitimate corprofacist, warmongering, illegitimate bane of the earth.

    Read More
    • Replies: @annamaria
    In case you are serious about "Russia should stop destabilizing Ukraine" and not a thinly veiled propagandist, here are some illuminating moments for you:
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/13/putin-ukraine-and-what-americans-know/

    "As The New York Times has instructed us, there was no coup in Ukraine; there was no U.S. interference; and there weren’t even that many neo-Nazis....
    The Prosecutor General was shot at, one of the security officers was wounded. And the motorcade of President Yanukovych himself was shot at. So it’s nothing short of an armed seizure of power.
    ... the new regime in Kiev immediately sought to limit use of the Russian language and allowed extreme nationalist elements to move against eastern provinces known as the Donbass where ethnic Russians were the vast majority of the population." [The decision to initiate a civil war against the federalists in East Ukraine had been taking immediately after the arrival of Brennan, then the director of the CIA. http://archive.larouchepac.com/node/30477]
    Not surprisingly, "More than 90 percent of the Crimean population turned out, they voted, and once the ballot was cast, the [Crimean] Parliament, based on the outcome of the referendum, addressed the Russian parliament, asking to incorporate it into the Russian Federation."

    If you are in a possession of facts that refute the above story, please provide the facts.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  29. @German_reader
    Many Nazis had fairly nice lives and good careers after 1945; even those who were convicted of crimes often served only fairly limited sentences. Stupid comparison by that Tushnet prof.

    By the way, German_reader, do you know how common such cases of ‘rehabilitation’ were in the DDR? I happen to know that both Ulbricht and Honecker had been legitimate members of the resistance before/during the war. But what about other high-ranking officials in post-war E. Germany?

    Read More
    • Replies: @German_reader
    That's a bit of a difficult subject, not easy to judge. The DDR of course made a big show of being the "antifascist" Germany, whereas all the former Nazis supposedly now were influential in West Germany. I think there actually was some truth in this insofar as really high-ranking Nazis generally didn't have great careers post-war in East Germany like they did in the west. The DDR also did bring some Nazi criminals to trial, and actually even executed some of them until the 1970s (last case seems to have been in 1978, according to this: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_in_der_DDR_hingerichteten_Personen ), e.g.:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Fischer
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Bl%C3%B6sche

    But of course there were hundreds of thousands, probably millions of ex-Nazis in the DDR as well, and many of them must have been integrated into the East German system in some way. The East German security services also seem to have used knowledge of the Nazi past of individuals for blackmailing them into becoming informers.
    Regarding your previous post: Kurt Georg Kiesinger wasn't really a hardcore Nazi at all (though probably also not an opponent of the Nazi system as he sometimes claimed to have been)...in his case there really was somewhat of a campaign of vilification, with strong support by East Germany.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  30. Joe Hide says:

    I didn’t even read the post that you were commenting to, but immediately dismissed your insulting dialogue. Using terms like “simpleinded ill educated Wallys twin” turns off all readers except those that are stimulated by emotional outbursts. I’m waiting for Your emotional loaded attack on me now. Go ahead, do as I have directed you.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  31. @Anon
    Camps like Auschwitz were primarily work camps. Incoming customers were separated into those marked for immediate extermination and those destined for slave labor. That's why such camps had facilities such as shower blocks, accommodation etc. Other camps such as Sobibor were set up purely as extermination camps and did not have any such facilities. I'm neither a holocaust denier or believer, a lot of the facts are missing, but you need to do some basic reading before asking these sorts of questions.

    Incoming customers were separated into those marked for immediate extermination and those destined for slave labor. That’s why such camps had facilities such as shower blocks, accommodation etc. Other camps such as Sobibor were set up purely as extermination camps and did not have any such facilities.

    From your “basic reading,” please provide solid evidence for:

    1. Where were those who were “marked for exterminated” exterminated? What happened to their corpses? We have all seen images of corpses with numbers tattooed on their arms; why did the Germans go to the trouble of tattooing someone “marked for immediate extermination?”

    2. If it is indeed the case that Germans tattooed people that were intended to be exterminated, did they follow through and record their death? Where are the death certificates? Does Yad Vashem demand that any name enrolled on its list of the holocausted provide evidence of their death, and that it was at the hands of the Germans? When my parents died, I had to present a death certificate before I could enter the home where I grew up. Verifying death is one of the rituals societies have carried out for millennia.

    3. Were those showers dual use or should we understand that when the holocaust narrative speaks of “showers disguised as gas chambers” that there were TWO different sets of showers?

    4. #2 applies to Auschwitz; at Sobibor, where were people exterminated? When? How? Where are their remains? Were people in Sobibor tattooed with numbers? If so, why?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  32. @Anon
    Ah but your calculations miss the fat. Of course it wasn't out of SS benevolence that all those extra rations were got in to help build up some rather thin pieces of human fuel. As a jolly old SS Corporal told me they were a sentimental lot who got terribly nostalgic for the good old crackle of pork fat.

    Is there a substantive argument in your word pile, Anon?

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anon
    No. Merely an attempt, with less self importance or solemnity to match like with like.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  33. Thanks Derb. Anyone familiar with the English language can read the Constitution and know what it says. But only nine people on Earth can know what it means. To paper over this obvious problem we are given the “living document” bull shit. The High Court should have long ago been replace by a jury. It’s too late now.

    Read More
    • Agree: anarchyst
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  34. Che Guava says:

    Evening, Derb.

    That was good to read, as your writing always is. Although I am not a USA person, I was hoping for better from Trump, and am talking about policy, not the media games.

    I found the CNN wrestling GIF hilarious, and the whining about it pathetic, likewise, the post about Mika Brzezinski, even after her plastic surgery, and despite the bleached-blonde hair, look at a profile, she sure has a sepulchural face, much like her evil father, and a bit like his evil and later successor, ‘Madeleine Albright’.

    Still, Trump does not seem capable of much. Part of it is blocking, part that he seems to have about zero concentration span, and made the foolish choices to install Jared and Ivanka in the WH. It is telling that his wife keeps her distance.

    I post this link as an example of one type of article

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/07/93955/

    I like to reading on Counterpunch, I go walking in bear places here, but I have never seen a bear in the wild. That day, just Japanese macaques, many interesting birds, deer. One must sometimes find a stick for the macaques, but not the last time I encountered them, they were looking up in a bored way. It was raining and cold, except for one man in adventure rain clothes, going the other way, I was the only one at the end of the track, and back, that was luxury! All of the birds scattered before I was able to take a photo, but always in memory.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Please make that "...she sure has a sepulchral face..."

    Don't quite comprehend the poetic paragraph at the end of your post. If the "bear places" are the Russian spheres of influence beyond Russia proper, and the "Japanese macaques" are the 5 Kuril Islands closest to Hokkaido, to what does finding "a stick for the macaques" refer to?

    We USA persons have much to learn of the subtle wisdom of the inscrutable East.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  35. anarchyst says:
    @Anon
    Are you the simple minded ill-educated Wally's identical twin?

    Nope, just an independent free thinker that has come to many of the same conclusions as Wally…
    “Simple-minded”? “Ill-educated”?…not at all.
    Simply smart and able to cut through the holocaust™ BS…unlike you who has swallowed the holocaust™ BS “hook line and sinker”…THINK, McFly, THINK…

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  36. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The main content of Derbyshire’s post is
    bad intentions of liberals in the USA.
    Do not pull him into the discussion of Holocaust(TM) matters.
    As far as I understand, the discussion of Holocaust(TM) is not the subject of
    Derbyshire’s post. Derbyshire may have some or other opinion about H(TM),
    which to the best of my knowledge he has never tried to disclose.
    Do not pull him into it !

    Read More
    • Agree: Fredrik
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  37. annamaria says:
    @Agent76
    Really? Jul 7, 2016 The Close Relationship Between Donald Trump and the Clintons

    Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton act as if they are arch enemies. But is it all just politics?

    https://youtu.be/gJGnFDnbmhU

    Jun 6, 2013 6 Corporations That Control Your Perception

    Abby Martin goes over the 6 corporations that control nearly everything in the mainstream media, and discusses a few of the most famous cases of media censorship with BTS producer, Manuel Rapalo.

    https://youtu.be/0hxMaAAmaX0

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/07/this-is-what-plutocracy-looks-like/

    “The howls of outrage coming from displaced Democrats would be hilarious if they weren’t so pathetic. Quickly, who wrote Barack Obama’s ‘signature’ legislation, the ACA (Affordable Care Act)? A health insurance industry lobbyist named Liz Fowler wrote it. Who are the intended beneficiaries from the ISDS (Investor-State Dispute Settlement) provisions of the TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) ‘free’ trade agreement that Mr. Obama so vigorously supported? Wall Street, hedge funds and multi-national corporations at the expense of national, state and local governments and their citizens.
    Barack Obama was the ‘deporter in chief’ of economic refugees from Mexico displaced by Bill Clinton’s passage of NAFTA. Mr. Obama’s Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, supported a right-wing coup in Honduras and then argued that the orphaned child-refugees fleeing the resulting violence should be forcibly returned there.
    The charge here isn’t that ‘both parties do it,’ but rather that they— Democrats and Republicans, are partners on the side of reigning plutocrats in a class war against a broadly-defined global working class. “

    Read More
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Would you care to explain your reference to "economic refugees" created by NAFTA? Prima facie that is the reverse of what one would expect from exporting jobs to Mexico.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  38. Stopped reading after the first sentence. If Derbyshire doesn’t understand decorum doesn’t mean anything to our enemies, and the mainstream media is our enemy, he lacks any understanding at all. His generation is worthless and finished, and should be cursed by it’s children.. I won’t bother reading his articles again.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  39. annamaria says:
    @hyperbola
    Now what sect controls both Harvard and Yale? Seems to be this one. "Progressives" should be screaming loudly about a racist-supremacist sect claiming to speak for them.

    Stalin's Jews
    We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    Yes, the truth is coming out: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
    “An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name “Genrikh Yagoda,” the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU’s deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD [a precursor of KGB]. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin’s collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system.
    Stalin’s close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the “first Stalinist” and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao’s terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.
    Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We’ll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD’s special department and the organization’s chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
    In 1934 [time of red terror], according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. ”

    Looks like Russians are incredibly tolerant people.

    The ongoing slaughter in the Middle East is not a fluke – it is manifestation of the tribal character. Same in Ukraine, where Nuland & Kolomojsky have brought to power the local neo-Nazis who are only happy to desecrate the mass graves of victims of the WWII.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Immigrant from former USSR
    Somehow you have forgotten to mention Trotsky (Bronstein)

    Duplicate of my post from other thread:

    I had a colleague back in USSR, senior than me, who in approx. 1960 was allowed to visit USA on scientific (STEM) business. He managed to visit Hoover Institute at Stanford University, and was extremely lucky to meet there in person A. F. Kerensky (1881-1970): the last Prime-Minister of Russia before Bolshevik coup, October of 1917.
    *
    Kerensky told to my astonished colleague: “You in Russia are so lucky, that Trotsky did not come to power. In comparison with Stalin, he would do much more harm to Russian people.”
    *
    Disclaimer: I, I.f.f.U., consider Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin
    as bunch of greatest scoundrels and tyrants in history.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  40. annamaria says:
    @nickels
    Agreed that without Trump things would be worse, yet, we should not be lulled into thinking that Mr. 'Russia should stop destabilizing Ukraine' changes the fact that the American government is still a 100% illegitimate corprofacist, warmongering, illegitimate bane of the earth.

    In case you are serious about “Russia should stop destabilizing Ukraine” and not a thinly veiled propagandist, here are some illuminating moments for you:

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/13/putin-ukraine-and-what-americans-know/

    “As The New York Times has instructed us, there was no coup in Ukraine; there was no U.S. interference; and there weren’t even that many neo-Nazis….
    The Prosecutor General was shot at, one of the security officers was wounded. And the motorcade of President Yanukovych himself was shot at. So it’s nothing short of an armed seizure of power.
    … the new regime in Kiev immediately sought to limit use of the Russian language and allowed extreme nationalist elements to move against eastern provinces known as the Donbass where ethnic Russians were the vast majority of the population.” [The decision to initiate a civil war against the federalists in East Ukraine had been taking immediately after the arrival of Brennan, then the director of the CIA. @nickels

    That wasn't my line, it was idiot Trump's line.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @annamaria
    Yes, the truth is coming out: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
    "An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD [a precursor of KGB]. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system.
    Stalin's close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the "first Stalinist" and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao's terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.
    Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
    In 1934 [time of red terror], according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. "

    Looks like Russians are incredibly tolerant people.

    The ongoing slaughter in the Middle East is not a fluke - it is manifestation of the tribal character. Same in Ukraine, where Nuland & Kolomojsky have brought to power the local neo-Nazis who are only happy to desecrate the mass graves of victims of the WWII.

    Somehow you have forgotten to mention Trotsky (Bronstein)

    Duplicate of my post from other thread:

    I had a colleague back in USSR, senior than me, who in approx. 1960 was allowed to visit USA on scientific (STEM) business. He managed to visit Hoover Institute at Stanford University, and was extremely lucky to meet there in person A. F. Kerensky (1881-1970): the last Prime-Minister of Russia before Bolshevik coup, October of 1917.
    *
    Kerensky told to my astonished colleague: “You in Russia are so lucky, that Trotsky did not come to power. In comparison with Stalin, he would do much more harm to Russian people.”
    *
    Disclaimer: I, I.f.f.U., consider Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin
    as bunch of greatest scoundrels and tyrants in history.

    Read More
    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @annamaria
    A. F. Kerensky: “You in Russia are so lucky, that Trotsky did not come to power. In comparison with Stalin, he would do much more harm to Russian people.”
    That should be plastered on ADF League' walls to bring the psychopaths back to their senses.
    The Bolshevik revolution has clipped the wings of the fledging Russia by obliterating the best in Russian society. It is doubtful that the Russian spirit would allow creation of something similar to ZUSA.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Brett Stevens
    If affirmative action ends, the other body of anti-discrimination law will be open to attack, and if that goes, so will diversity.

    That would be glorious.

    The fashwave that is sweeping the West is in response to the general failures of liberal democracy, but it needs to start by taking out the Left's most potent weapon against us, namely genetic eradication through outbreeding.

    And send the Irish back.

    “And send the Irish back.”

    F*ck off with the Divide and Conquer of white people, dirty little k*ike.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Art Deco says:
    @Anon
    Has anyone heard how Tushnet's daughter Eve, the big time social conservative Catholic convert, took this argument of her dad's?

    It's funny how all those social conservatives with lesbian daughters felt the need to support gay marriage, but the liberal with a celibate lesbian daughter feels no need to be minimally polite about her lifestyle choice.

    It’s funny how all those social conservatives with lesbian daughters felt the need to support gay marriage, but the liberal with a celibate lesbian daughter feels no need to be minimally polite about her lifestyle choice.

    The only people I can think of who might resemble some part of your description would be Alan Keyes, Elizabeth Scalia, Laura Ingraham, and Rob Portman. Only Keyes has a problem daughter. Scalia and Ingraham have problem brothers and Portman has a problem son. Portman’s not a ‘social conservative’; he’s an haut bourgeois careerist politician / lawyer – just one who found a Republican affiliation expedient. I’m fairly sure at least two of the other three never endorsed homosexual pseudogamy. Keyes has been estranged from his daughter for periods of time as well. Is there someone I missed?

    Eve Tushnet is regarded with some skepticism by certain Catholic writers:

    http://www.crisismagazine.com/2013/the-new-homophiles

    Read More
    • Replies: @Anon
    Dick Cheney was the first one who comes to mind. Maybe he's not the socon's socon, but he came out for gay marriage very early for a Republican, and I remember a lot of people saying "of course, his daughter, only natural." So where in the world is Mark Tushnet's natural paternal feeling?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • yeah says:

    Reading about these deranged and fanatical professors some serious questions arise. Please treat these as a serious quest for knowledge and reply in appropriate vein.

    (1) Why do ultra progressive views in general, fanatical commitment to the LGTBQ agenda, obsession with racial oppression and minority rights, naïve demands for more and bigger nanny government, outrageous demands for ‘more free goodies’ to be paid out of other peoples’ purses and taxes, prickly stance on women’s issues, insistence on political correctness of a certain type, obsessive worrying about animal welfare (the humans be damned), extreme views on environment and global warming issues – beyond that warranted by scientific consensus, an intolerance towards religion and a fanatical attitude of vocal atheism: why do these attitudes very frequently come bundled together? It is as if human psychology only came in package deals: if you want to be a vocal atheist, you will very likely also be an advocate of strong affirmative action, a believer in big government, and a supporter of LGBTQ causes. Feel passionately about animal rights? Chances are you support free access to abortion and would support action to shut down your local church, though (somewhat curiously) you would be quite passionate in your defense of a muslim mosque coming up in the same neighborhood.

    (2) The stronger the presence of any one of these traits/beliefs, the stronger and more likely the cluster effect. Why is that so? Isn’t it curious that a very fanatical vegetarian and animal rights activist is more likely to be a violent protester at the anti G20 summit compared to Mr. Joe Hotdog? What is strange is this coexistence of ‘passionate non-violence’ with a willingness to be violent towards those who would disagree. This is exactly the mindset that these fanatical professors are displaying. They believe in one set of views and politics in the name of higher values and things, but then they would want to be very ruthless towards those who they feel don’t share their so-called higher ideals.

    (3) What is it in our times (since about 30 years) that is causing an acceleration in both (1) and
    (2)? In other words, why are the common components making up an average ‘progressive’ becoming more pronounced? Why is the vegan today becoming more and more vocal and why is the LGBTQ crusader now on an accelerated mission to thrust it all right up in our faces? And why is the correlation of these traits becoming higher? The nice liberal of 40 years ago could have been a church-goer, tolerant of different sexual practices, and an advocate of government in select areas. His counterpart of today is more likely to demand the closure of churches, be an advocate of LGBTQ causes, and demand political correctness of others at all times.

    Fanatical progressiveness may well turn out to be more dangerous than Nazism and Fascism. The fanaticism of these Professors is scarier than the ordinary witless Nazi. The Nazi’s behavior was predictable to a large extent. The communist believed in a type of progress that had been defined. But who knows what these professor-types will dream up in the name of progress and political correctness..

    Read More
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    I think I'd re-read Alvin Gouldner and Thos. Sowell.

    Here's a hypothesis: the cluster you've identified consists of taking positions which are not vernacular, commonsensical, traditional, or derived from the mundane experience of earning a living in various trades. The self-aggrandizing bourgeois of our own time establishes their oh-so-very-specialness by adopting stances contra the surrounding society and contra previous generations, the more perverse the better. The political action and cultural memes propagated by these types promote the social position of the New Class of attorneys, higher education apparatchicks, and media as the distributors or recognition and reward in society at large. The yammer about 'racism', which is very seldom accompanied by advocacy of one blessed thing beneficial to black wage-earners, is a means of stripping authority from previous generations to aggrandize elements of the present generation. Bad elements.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    As Art Deco noted, Thomas Sowell's A Conflict of Visions, here paraphrased and condensed by Steven Pinker (in The Blank Slate).

    "The right-left axis aligns an astonishing collection of beliefs that at first glance seem to have nothing in common. If you learn that someone is in favor of a strong military, for example, it is a good bet that the person is also in favor of judicial restraint rather than judicial activism. If someone believes in the importance of religion, chances are she will be tough on crime and in favor of lower taxes. Proponents of a laissez-faire economic policy tend to value patriotism and the family, and they are more likely to be old than young, pragmatic than idealistic, censorious than permissive, meritocratic than egalitarian, gradualist than revolutionary, and in a business rather than a university or government agency. The opposing positions cluster just as reliably: if someone is sympathetic to rehabilitating offenders, or to affirmative action, or to generous welfare programs, or to a tolerance of homosexuality, chances are good that he will also be a pacifist, an environmentalist, an activist, an egalitarian, a secularist, and a professor or student.
    Why on earth should people's beliefs about sex predict their beliefs about the size of the military? What does religion have to do with taxes? Whence the linkage between strict construction of the Constitution and disdain for shocking art? Before we can understand why beliefs about an innate human nature might cluster with liberal beliefs or with conservative beliefs, we have to understand why liberal beliefs cluster with other liberal beliefs and conservative beliefs cluster with other conservative beliefs.

    The most sweeping attempt to survey the underlying dimension is Thomas Sowell's A Conflict of Visions. Not every ideological struggle fits his scheme, but as we say in social science, he has identified a factor that can account for a large proportion of the variance. Sowell explains two “visions” of the nature of human beings that were expressed in their purest forms by Edmund Burke (1729–1797), the patron of secular conservatism, and William Godwin (1756–1836), the British counterpart to Rousseau. In earlier times they might have been referred to as different visions of the perfectibility of man. Sowell calls them the Constrained Vision and the Unconstrained Vision; I will refer to them as the Tragic Vision (a term he uses in a later book) and the Utopian Vision.

    In the Tragic Vision, humans are inherently limited in knowledge, wisdom, and virtue, and all social arrangements must acknowledge those limits.

    In the Utopian Vision, psychological limitations are artifacts that come from our social arrangements, and we should not allow them to restrict our gaze from what is possible in a better world. Its creed might be “Some people see things as they are and ask ‘why?'; I dream things that never were and ask ‘why not?'”

    In the Tragic Vision, our moral sentiments, no matter how beneficent, overlie a deeper bedrock of selfishness. That selfishness is not the cruelty or aggression of the psychopath, but a concern for our well-being that is so much a part of our makeup that we seldom reflect on it and would waste our time lamenting it or trying to erase it. In the Tragic Vision, moreover, human nature has not changed. Traditions such as religion, the family, social customs, sexual mores, and political institutions are a distillation of time-tested techniques that let us work around the shortcomings of human nature. They are as applicable to humans today as they were when they developed, even if no one today can explain their rationale. However imperfect society may be, we should measure it against the cruelty and deprivation of the actual past, not the harmony and affluence of an imagined future. We are fortunate enough to live in a society that more or less works, and our first priority should be not to screw it up, because human nature always leaves us teetering on the brink of barbarism. And since no one is smart enough to predict the behavior of a single human being, let alone millions of them interacting in a society, we should distrust any formula for changing society from the top down, because it is likely to have unintended consequences that are worse than the problems it was designed to fix.

    In the Utopian Vision, human nature changes with social circumstances, so traditional institutions have no inherent value. That was then, this is now. Traditions are the dead hand of the past, the attempt to rule from the grave. Moreover, the existence of suffering and injustice presents us with an undeniable moral imperative. We don't know what we can achieve until we try, and the alternative, resigning ourselves to these evils as the way of the world, is unconscionable. The future does not belong to those who are content with today, apathetic toward common problems and their fellow man alike, timid and fearful in the face of new ideas and bold projects. Our future may lie beyond our vision, but it is not completely beyond our control.

    Those with the Tragic Vision are unmoved by ringing declarations attributed to the first-person plural we, our, and us. They are more likely to use the pronouns as the cartoon possum Pogo did: We have met the enemy, and he is us. We are all members of the same flawed species. Putting our moral vision into practice means imposing our will on others. The human lust for power and esteem, coupled with its vulnerability to self-deception and self-righteousness, makes that an invitation to a calamity, all the worse when that power is directed at a goal as quixotic as eradicating human self-interest. As the conservative philosopher Michael Oakshott wrote, “To try to do something which is inherently impossible is always a corrupting enterprise.”"
     
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • annamaria says:
    @Immigrant from former USSR
    Somehow you have forgotten to mention Trotsky (Bronstein)

    Duplicate of my post from other thread:

    I had a colleague back in USSR, senior than me, who in approx. 1960 was allowed to visit USA on scientific (STEM) business. He managed to visit Hoover Institute at Stanford University, and was extremely lucky to meet there in person A. F. Kerensky (1881-1970): the last Prime-Minister of Russia before Bolshevik coup, October of 1917.
    *
    Kerensky told to my astonished colleague: “You in Russia are so lucky, that Trotsky did not come to power. In comparison with Stalin, he would do much more harm to Russian people.”
    *
    Disclaimer: I, I.f.f.U., consider Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin
    as bunch of greatest scoundrels and tyrants in history.

    A. F. Kerensky: “You in Russia are so lucky, that Trotsky did not come to power. In comparison with Stalin, he would do much more harm to Russian people.”
    That should be plastered on ADF League’ walls to bring the psychopaths back to their senses.
    The Bolshevik revolution has clipped the wings of the fledging Russia by obliterating the best in Russian society. It is doubtful that the Russian spirit would allow creation of something similar to ZUSA.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Che Guava
    Evening, Derb.

    That was good to read, as your writing always is. Although I am not a USA person, I was hoping for better from Trump, and am talking about policy, not the media games.

    I found the CNN wrestling GIF hilarious, and the whining about it pathetic, likewise, the post about Mika Brzezinski, even after her plastic surgery, and despite the bleached-blonde hair, look at a profile, she sure has a sepulchural face, much like her evil father, and a bit like his evil and later successor, 'Madeleine Albright'.

    Still, Trump does not seem capable of much. Part of it is blocking, part that he seems to have about zero concentration span, and made the foolish choices to install Jared and Ivanka in the WH. It is telling that his wife keeps her distance.

    I post this link as an example of one type of article

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/07/93955/

    I like to reading on Counterpunch, I go walking in bear places here, but I have never seen a bear in the wild. That day, just Japanese macaques, many interesting birds, deer. One must sometimes find a stick for the macaques, but not the last time I encountered them, they were looking up in a bored way. It was raining and cold, except for one man in adventure rain clothes, going the other way, I was the only one at the end of the track, and back, that was luxury! All of the birds scattered before I was able to take a photo, but always in memory.

    Please make that “…she sure has a sepulchral face…”

    Don’t quite comprehend the poetic paragraph at the end of your post. If the “bear places” are the Russian spheres of influence beyond Russia proper, and the “Japanese macaques” are the 5 Kuril Islands closest to Hokkaido, to what does finding “a stick for the macaques” refer to?

    We USA persons have much to learn of the subtle wisdom of the inscrutable East.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Che Guava
    You do misunderstand. By 'bear place', I mean places where there is a wild bear population in Japan. Where I was walking that day is one. Since I was alone on the walking track, I thought of it, and what to do if to encountering a bear.

    As for the macaques, they can be incredibly aggressive in places where stupid people feed them too much. On Yakushima, for example, one jumped onto the car, a couple of others followed, and tried to stop us. No injury on either side, but very aggro. from the macaques.

    Also, hiking tracks closer to Tokyo, sometimes a stick is needed.

    On the day I describe, the macaques just looked at me, saw that I was peaceful and probably had no food, and kept doing what they had been doing.

    I was not to making any geopolitical or racial allegories, just a description of a magical day to me.

    Although, I must adding, former P.M. Koizumi has a strong resemblance to macaque!
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Seamus Padraig
    By the way, German_reader, do you know how common such cases of 'rehabilitation' were in the DDR? I happen to know that both Ulbricht and Honecker had been legitimate members of the resistance before/during the war. But what about other high-ranking officials in post-war E. Germany?

    That’s a bit of a difficult subject, not easy to judge. The DDR of course made a big show of being the “antifascist” Germany, whereas all the former Nazis supposedly now were influential in West Germany. I think there actually was some truth in this insofar as really high-ranking Nazis generally didn’t have great careers post-war in East Germany like they did in the west. The DDR also did bring some Nazi criminals to trial, and actually even executed some of them until the 1970s (last case seems to have been in 1978, according to this: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_in_der_DDR_hingerichteten_Personen ), e.g.:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Fischer

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Bl%C3%B6sche

    But of course there were hundreds of thousands, probably millions of ex-Nazis in the DDR as well, and many of them must have been integrated into the East German system in some way. The East German security services also seem to have used knowledge of the Nazi past of individuals for blackmailing them into becoming informers.
    Regarding your previous post: Kurt Georg Kiesinger wasn’t really a hardcore Nazi at all (though probably also not an opponent of the Nazi system as he sometimes claimed to have been)…in his case there really was somewhat of a campaign of vilification, with strong support by East Germany.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig
    Alright, thanks for your reply.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • The cultural left is evil, but reading the comments section here and elsewhere it’s clear they have a lot of company.

    If conservatives don’t look out for the middle and lower classes, liberals will ultimately win.
    I’m encouraged by the recent comments by Sen. Jerry Moran, but he needs a lot more company before Ryan and the Koch brothers can be pushed aside.

    Hillary is just a loser. Three times she fumbled the ball on the one yard line (1. Hillarycare 2. 2008 primary 3. 2016 general). She really is a loser of historic proportions.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • Derbyshire is not part of the culture. The people Hillary would want to exterminate are skilled in arms, and have a lot of friends. Her mob is a bunch weaklings, saw a lot at Hopkins back in the day. They know the ground, and after some misbehavior they would suffer some extreme pain.

    The model would be Ollie Cromwell at Drogheda: “Nits will be lice.”

    Read More
    • Replies: @Brett Stevens
    I am not sure the Leftists are the wimps that many on the Alt Right think them to be.

    They attack in groups, and are anti-gun only because they do not want anyone else to have the guns.

    They have overthrown multiple nations and proven a difficult foe.

    The average gun-owning American conservative is likely to defend his front lawn but not much else, and when the Leftists take over, he will cuck down hard and keep paying those taxes while nodding politely to the Vietnamese-African hybrid his daughter is dating.
    , @RadicalCenter
    I guess you're referring to coddled white far-left college students. They are by far not the bulk of the Democrat Party's supporters or the anti-Western coalition in the USA generally.

    Don't be so sure that tens of millions of African and Mexican-"Americans" are "a bunch of weaklings." Because that is precisely who Clinton and her ilk are counting on, and can reliably count on, to exterminate or drive out any white people left in their vicinity when things turn violent.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Art Deco says:
    @yeah
    Reading about these deranged and fanatical professors some serious questions arise. Please treat these as a serious quest for knowledge and reply in appropriate vein.

    (1) Why do ultra progressive views in general, fanatical commitment to the LGTBQ agenda, obsession with racial oppression and minority rights, naïve demands for more and bigger nanny government, outrageous demands for 'more free goodies' to be paid out of other peoples' purses and taxes, prickly stance on women's issues, insistence on political correctness of a certain type, obsessive worrying about animal welfare (the humans be damned), extreme views on environment and global warming issues - beyond that warranted by scientific consensus, an intolerance towards religion and a fanatical attitude of vocal atheism: why do these attitudes very frequently come bundled together? It is as if human psychology only came in package deals: if you want to be a vocal atheist, you will very likely also be an advocate of strong affirmative action, a believer in big government, and a supporter of LGBTQ causes. Feel passionately about animal rights? Chances are you support free access to abortion and would support action to shut down your local church, though (somewhat curiously) you would be quite passionate in your defense of a muslim mosque coming up in the same neighborhood.

    (2) The stronger the presence of any one of these traits/beliefs, the stronger and more likely the cluster effect. Why is that so? Isn't it curious that a very fanatical vegetarian and animal rights activist is more likely to be a violent protester at the anti G20 summit compared to Mr. Joe Hotdog? What is strange is this coexistence of 'passionate non-violence' with a willingness to be violent towards those who would disagree. This is exactly the mindset that these fanatical professors are displaying. They believe in one set of views and politics in the name of higher values and things, but then they would want to be very ruthless towards those who they feel don't share their so-called higher ideals.

    (3) What is it in our times (since about 30 years) that is causing an acceleration in both (1) and
    (2)? In other words, why are the common components making up an average 'progressive' becoming more pronounced? Why is the vegan today becoming more and more vocal and why is the LGBTQ crusader now on an accelerated mission to thrust it all right up in our faces? And why is the correlation of these traits becoming higher? The nice liberal of 40 years ago could have been a church-goer, tolerant of different sexual practices, and an advocate of government in select areas. His counterpart of today is more likely to demand the closure of churches, be an advocate of LGBTQ causes, and demand political correctness of others at all times.

    Fanatical progressiveness may well turn out to be more dangerous than Nazism and Fascism. The fanaticism of these Professors is scarier than the ordinary witless Nazi. The Nazi's behavior was predictable to a large extent. The communist believed in a type of progress that had been defined. But who knows what these professor-types will dream up in the name of progress and political correctness..

    I think I’d re-read Alvin Gouldner and Thos. Sowell.

    Here’s a hypothesis: the cluster you’ve identified consists of taking positions which are not vernacular, commonsensical, traditional, or derived from the mundane experience of earning a living in various trades. The self-aggrandizing bourgeois of our own time establishes their oh-so-very-specialness by adopting stances contra the surrounding society and contra previous generations, the more perverse the better. The political action and cultural memes propagated by these types promote the social position of the New Class of attorneys, higher education apparatchicks, and media as the distributors or recognition and reward in society at large. The yammer about ‘racism’, which is very seldom accompanied by advocacy of one blessed thing beneficial to black wage-earners, is a means of stripping authority from previous generations to aggrandize elements of the present generation. Bad elements.

    Read More
    • Replies: @yeah
    @ Art Deco

    Delighted to have this exchange with you. Please suggest specific titles by Gouldner and Sowell, would love to dig in.

    I see your point and find myself agreeing. To put it bluntly, all this militant identity politics, transgender obsessions, fanatical atheism, race and animal rights, human rights advocacy accompanied by extreme violence and intolerance of other viewpoints, silliness and unprecedented hypocrisy coming from educated and virtuous platforms - this whole package of stinking insanity in short - is promoted by people who have never had to work for a living and is basically a cloud of fluff blown out to mask the real action going on in real politics, the actions amounting to the picking of pockets, outright robbery, and other thuggery across class and generational lines. Interesting pick this, the generational thing, on your part. Yeah, we older folk are simply scratching our heads at the brazen hypocrisy, monumental lying, and the evil being perpetrated under the banners of 'human rights', 'progress', 'gender and racial equality', and generally all the other doubletalk and doublethink that constitutes the dominant discourse of our times.

    But I still scratch my head: Why in our times and not earlier? What has caused this generation to give a heave-ho to common sense, elementary logic, and critical thinking? What virus has taken over the human mind and where will this all end? I have never been religious, but the mass scale abandonment of tradition and religion I suspect is an important underlying cause as well. Lastly, and most importantly, how do we attract younger generations back into the conservative fold?
    , @JackOH
    Agree, Art Deco, there's something to what you say. A few times I joined with some local fellow citizens for political activity. They seemed to have a good cause, I'd contribute a body, and there'd be a chance for good fellowship.

    The fellowship part is where I got off the bus and never got back on. Most of my fellow citizens seemed to be Democrats of the rabid and barely concealed SJW type. Government workers, big corporation types, teachers and profs with homes in the 'burbs and parlor-pink Leftist attitudes. Small town snobberies, cheap opinions of convenience, attitudinal logrolling, that sort of deal.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:
    @Brett Stevens
    If affirmative action ends, the other body of anti-discrimination law will be open to attack, and if that goes, so will diversity.

    That would be glorious.

    The fashwave that is sweeping the West is in response to the general failures of liberal democracy, but it needs to start by taking out the Left's most potent weapon against us, namely genetic eradication through outbreeding.

    And send the Irish back.

    “If affirmative action ends, the other body of anti-discrimination law will be open to attack, and if that goes, so will diversity.”

    One does not lead to the other. Anti-discrimination laws have a purpose here. You Southrons got too greedy with your application of Jim Crow.

    “The fashwave that is sweeping the West is in response to the general failures of liberal democracy, but it needs to start by taking out the Left’s most potent weapon against us, namely genetic eradication through outbreeding.”

    White people will continue to make their own decisions regarding who they marry and sire offspring, whether it be within or outside their race. Good luck stripping anyone of their “potent weapon”.

    “And send the Irish back.”

    How mighty anti-white of you to say.

    And, as a aside, political attitudes are PARTLY genetic. Prior studies found that variations in the DRD4 gene were linked to a person’s political views, but only in limited circumstances. “It requires a context in which people are exposed to certain social environments,” said psychologist Richard P. Ebstein, who indicated that the number of friends one has is a mitigating factor.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Brett Stevens
    It is not "anti-white" to note that white people have not achieved unity because different white groups see themselves as distinct, and do not want to merge into generic white. Further, white diversity has been a disaster in the USA. As my own research reveals, Irish immigration shifted the country to the Left, culminating in JFK, who was our first diversity president:

    http://www.amerika.org/politics/did-irish-immigration-shift-america-to-the-left/
    , @Epochehusserl
    And you civil rights activists got too greedy with disparate impact. When the Asians are made aware of these realities all bets are off. No one is going to care about jim crow in the future.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Sean says:

    According to Barnett’s post, Mika Brzezinski’s dad thought Afghanistan was the key to world domination. Keeping the Khyber Pass* a one way street is indeed a worth any sacrifice.

    (*British rhyming slang for arse)

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • @nsa
    Jooies are under 2% of the population......but 25% of the Harvard student body and 27% of the Yale student body. What else do you need to know about Harvard and Yale?

    Seems like Jews are smarter than Gentiles. Or is there some other conclusion to draw from your comment?

    Read More
    • Replies: @jacques sheete

    Seems like Jews are smarter than Gentiles. Or is there some other conclusion to draw from your comment?
     
    The Shrub, GWB, gradjyated from both of those esteemed institutions, did he not?

    I therefore conclude that there are other conclusions.

    PS, If they're so smart, then why do they have to go to skool, especially when they're nothing more than expensive social clubs, a fact known since at least Ben Franklin's time?

    Benjamin Franklin attended school for two years, and his schooling ended when he was ten.
    This is Ben Franklin (as Silence Dogood) at age 16 :


    “…I reflected in my Mind on the extreme Folly of those Parents, who, blind to their Childrens Dullness, and insensible of the Solidity of their Skulls, because they think their Purses can afford it, will need send them to the Temple of Learning, where, for want of a suitable Genius, they learn little more than how to carry themselves handsomely, and enter a Room genteely, (which might as well be acquir’d at a Dancing-School,) and from whence they return, after Abundance of Trouble and Charge, as great Blockheads as ever, only more proud and self-conceited.


    …[and] he, without much Study, presently interpreted it, assuring me, That it was a lively Representation of HARVARD COLLEGE, Etcetera. I remain, Sir, Your Humble Servant,

    Silence Dogood, (No. 4)

    Printed in The New-England Courant, May 14, 1722.
     

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @annamaria
    'To this day, not a single European government has made the connection between Washington’s wars, supported by Europe, and the millions of refugees from Washington’s wars that are overrunning Europe"
    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/07/07/putins-assessment-trump-g-20-will-determine-future/
    "What is Syria about? Why is Washington so focused on overthrowing the elected president of Syria? What explains the sudden 21st century appearance of “the Muslim threat”? How is Washington’s preoccupation with “the Muslim threat” consistent with Washington’s wars against Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, and Assad, leaders who suppressed jihadism? What explains the sudden appearance of “the Russian threat” which has been hyped into dangerous Russophobia without any basis in fact?
    The Muslim threat, the Russian threat, and the lies used to destroy Iraq, Libya, and parts of Syria are all orchestrations to serve Israeli and neoconservative aspirations."

    The Lobby has become the cause of dramatic moral decline for Jewish tribe and, unfortunately, the Lobby has become the major threat for the European civilization

    The refugees coming into Europe are not from Washington’s wars, but the massive increase in third world population without a corresponding increase in production. They are coming to Europe for the free social benefits and the ability to conquer. They would have done this anyway, but only now are these societies so blinded by Leftism that they will let them in, give them free money and housing, and look the other way while they rape their way across the continent. Remember that Merkel et al. started this current wave by inviting the ‘fugees in so that they could work, be taxed, and pay for Baby Boomer retirement programs.

    Read More
    • Replies: @annamaria
    "The refugees coming into Europe are not from Washington’s wars..."

    Actually, the waves of sub-Saharan migrants flooding Europe are the result of Washington’s wars. First of all, it was the DC-sponsored murder of Colonel Qaddaffi, an outstanding leader who transformed Libya into a gem of North Africa (now completely ruined by ziocons' intervention). The murder and the consequent west-cultivated chaos in Libya have destroyed the protection of Europe against the migrants.
    Look no farther than the private cartel of Federal Reserve, oilmen, Israel-firsters, and MIC. Are they Leftists? Merkel simply tried to follow the normative ideas of western civilization, which are not working anymore thanks to the DC "deciders." There were of course certain enthusiastic locals that must be persecuted in accordance with international law, such as the Gargoyle Sarkozy, a trigger-happy warrior against sovereign Libya.
    By the way, who has pocketed Libyan gold reserve?
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/07/hiding-us-lies-about-libyan-invasion/
    https://consortiumnews.com/tag/muammar-gaddafi/?print=print-search

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Corvinus
    "If affirmative action ends, the other body of anti-discrimination law will be open to attack, and if that goes, so will diversity."

    One does not lead to the other. Anti-discrimination laws have a purpose here. You Southrons got too greedy with your application of Jim Crow.

    "The fashwave that is sweeping the West is in response to the general failures of liberal democracy, but it needs to start by taking out the Left’s most potent weapon against us, namely genetic eradication through outbreeding."

    White people will continue to make their own decisions regarding who they marry and sire offspring, whether it be within or outside their race. Good luck stripping anyone of their "potent weapon".

    "And send the Irish back."

    How mighty anti-white of you to say.

    And, as a aside, political attitudes are PARTLY genetic. Prior studies found that variations in the DRD4 gene were linked to a person’s political views, but only in limited circumstances. “It requires a context in which people are exposed to certain social environments,” said psychologist Richard P. Ebstein, who indicated that the number of friends one has is a mitigating factor.

    It is not “anti-white” to note that white people have not achieved unity because different white groups see themselves as distinct, and do not want to merge into generic white. Further, white diversity has been a disaster in the USA. As my own research reveals, Irish immigration shifted the country to the Left, culminating in JFK, who was our first diversity president:

    http://www.amerika.org/politics/did-irish-immigration-shift-america-to-the-left/

    Read More
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "It is not “anti-white” to note that white people have not achieved unity because different white groups see themselves as distinct, and do not want to merge into generic white."

    To the contrary, it is "anti-white" because you insist that a certain group of whites are other than desirable. You seek to restore your own version of civilization by seeking certain genes to die out. Your "truth" is nothing more than a biological nightmare. Besides, different groups of white people have the inherent liberty to make their own decisions about politics and race.

    One of your commenters noted about "being realistic about historical cycles is a great first step. Civilizations have life cycles, and the Anglosphere is no exception...Anglos have every right to self segregate and build something in accordance with their unique tastes and predilections. It's not clear if most Anglos are capable of what you envision, but it doesn't mean giving up. Millions of Anglos in North America are mixed with other ethnic groups at this point, so you have a tough slog ahead of you, but by all means continue. Getting the Irish to move back to Ireland is going to be a tough sell though. They tend to get ornery when Anglos try to push them around."

    Your quest is rooted in Ivory Tower logic, meaningless memes, and anti-humanity philosophy. Feel free to pitch your brand of snake oil, but the customers know full well of its toxicity.

    Your own "research" is predicated on outright falsehoods and confirmation bias galore. But, if you want to continue propagandize your audience, you have that liberty. Just do not expect your version of Heaven to decisively move the needle.

    , @Authenticjazzman
    " Irish immigration shifted the country to the left"

    Quite right and a strange lot indeed they are, as they worship BO to the same degree as the nutty Germans.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified uS Army vet and pro jazz musician.

    PS My father was born in Belfast.
    , @Art Deco
    Irish immigration shifted the country to the Left, culminating in JFK, who was our first diversity president:

    How would this have been manifest? If you were to pick historical movements with which latter-day leftists might indicate an affinity, they'd likely pick out abolitionism and it's corollaries, early feminism, populism, various sorts of pre-1917 labor agitation, and the progressive persuasion. The labor agitation is the only one of these that might have drawn disproportionately from Irish Catholic immigrants &c, and that was the least successful of these movements. (The Knights of Labor was a fad movement which dissipated, the IWW was crushed, and the AFL did not come into its own until about 1935). Attributing changes in state-society relations after 1933 to Irish immigration streams is quite peculiar; there were so many other vectors at work.

    Irish political agitation was manifest not in 'leftist' movements but in crooked ward politics. The Kennedys are poseurs. Richard Daley and Louise Day Hicks were the emblematic Irish pols of the era.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Tradecraft46
    Derbyshire is not part of the culture. The people Hillary would want to exterminate are skilled in arms, and have a lot of friends. Her mob is a bunch weaklings, saw a lot at Hopkins back in the day. They know the ground, and after some misbehavior they would suffer some extreme pain.

    The model would be Ollie Cromwell at Drogheda: "Nits will be lice."

    I am not sure the Leftists are the wimps that many on the Alt Right think them to be.

    They attack in groups, and are anti-gun only because they do not want anyone else to have the guns.

    They have overthrown multiple nations and proven a difficult foe.

    The average gun-owning American conservative is likely to defend his front lawn but not much else, and when the Leftists take over, he will cuck down hard and keep paying those taxes while nodding politely to the Vietnamese-African hybrid his daughter is dating.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @yeah
    Reading about these deranged and fanatical professors some serious questions arise. Please treat these as a serious quest for knowledge and reply in appropriate vein.

    (1) Why do ultra progressive views in general, fanatical commitment to the LGTBQ agenda, obsession with racial oppression and minority rights, naïve demands for more and bigger nanny government, outrageous demands for 'more free goodies' to be paid out of other peoples' purses and taxes, prickly stance on women's issues, insistence on political correctness of a certain type, obsessive worrying about animal welfare (the humans be damned), extreme views on environment and global warming issues - beyond that warranted by scientific consensus, an intolerance towards religion and a fanatical attitude of vocal atheism: why do these attitudes very frequently come bundled together? It is as if human psychology only came in package deals: if you want to be a vocal atheist, you will very likely also be an advocate of strong affirmative action, a believer in big government, and a supporter of LGBTQ causes. Feel passionately about animal rights? Chances are you support free access to abortion and would support action to shut down your local church, though (somewhat curiously) you would be quite passionate in your defense of a muslim mosque coming up in the same neighborhood.

    (2) The stronger the presence of any one of these traits/beliefs, the stronger and more likely the cluster effect. Why is that so? Isn't it curious that a very fanatical vegetarian and animal rights activist is more likely to be a violent protester at the anti G20 summit compared to Mr. Joe Hotdog? What is strange is this coexistence of 'passionate non-violence' with a willingness to be violent towards those who would disagree. This is exactly the mindset that these fanatical professors are displaying. They believe in one set of views and politics in the name of higher values and things, but then they would want to be very ruthless towards those who they feel don't share their so-called higher ideals.

    (3) What is it in our times (since about 30 years) that is causing an acceleration in both (1) and
    (2)? In other words, why are the common components making up an average 'progressive' becoming more pronounced? Why is the vegan today becoming more and more vocal and why is the LGBTQ crusader now on an accelerated mission to thrust it all right up in our faces? And why is the correlation of these traits becoming higher? The nice liberal of 40 years ago could have been a church-goer, tolerant of different sexual practices, and an advocate of government in select areas. His counterpart of today is more likely to demand the closure of churches, be an advocate of LGBTQ causes, and demand political correctness of others at all times.

    Fanatical progressiveness may well turn out to be more dangerous than Nazism and Fascism. The fanaticism of these Professors is scarier than the ordinary witless Nazi. The Nazi's behavior was predictable to a large extent. The communist believed in a type of progress that had been defined. But who knows what these professor-types will dream up in the name of progress and political correctness..

    As Art Deco noted, Thomas Sowell’s A Conflict of Visions, here paraphrased and condensed by Steven Pinker (in The Blank Slate).

    [MORE]

    “The right-left axis aligns an astonishing collection of beliefs that at first glance seem to have nothing in common. If you learn that someone is in favor of a strong military, for example, it is a good bet that the person is also in favor of judicial restraint rather than judicial activism. If someone believes in the importance of religion, chances are she will be tough on crime and in favor of lower taxes. Proponents of a laissez-faire economic policy tend to value patriotism and the family, and they are more likely to be old than young, pragmatic than idealistic, censorious than permissive, meritocratic than egalitarian, gradualist than revolutionary, and in a business rather than a university or government agency. The opposing positions cluster just as reliably: if someone is sympathetic to rehabilitating offenders, or to affirmative action, or to generous welfare programs, or to a tolerance of homosexuality, chances are good that he will also be a pacifist, an environmentalist, an activist, an egalitarian, a secularist, and a professor or student.
    Why on earth should people’s beliefs about sex predict their beliefs about the size of the military? What does religion have to do with taxes? Whence the linkage between strict construction of the Constitution and disdain for shocking art? Before we can understand why beliefs about an innate human nature might cluster with liberal beliefs or with conservative beliefs, we have to understand why liberal beliefs cluster with other liberal beliefs and conservative beliefs cluster with other conservative beliefs.

    The most sweeping attempt to survey the underlying dimension is Thomas Sowell’s A Conflict of Visions. Not every ideological struggle fits his scheme, but as we say in social science, he has identified a factor that can account for a large proportion of the variance. Sowell explains two “visions” of the nature of human beings that were expressed in their purest forms by Edmund Burke (1729–1797), the patron of secular conservatism, and William Godwin (1756–1836), the British counterpart to Rousseau. In earlier times they might have been referred to as different visions of the perfectibility of man. Sowell calls them the Constrained Vision and the Unconstrained Vision; I will refer to them as the Tragic Vision (a term he uses in a later book) and the Utopian Vision.

    In the Tragic Vision, humans are inherently limited in knowledge, wisdom, and virtue, and all social arrangements must acknowledge those limits.

    In the Utopian Vision, psychological limitations are artifacts that come from our social arrangements, and we should not allow them to restrict our gaze from what is possible in a better world. Its creed might be “Some people see things as they are and ask ‘why?’; I dream things that never were and ask ‘why not?’”

    In the Tragic Vision, our moral sentiments, no matter how beneficent, overlie a deeper bedrock of selfishness. That selfishness is not the cruelty or aggression of the psychopath, but a concern for our well-being that is so much a part of our makeup that we seldom reflect on it and would waste our time lamenting it or trying to erase it. In the Tragic Vision, moreover, human nature has not changed. Traditions such as religion, the family, social customs, sexual mores, and political institutions are a distillation of time-tested techniques that let us work around the shortcomings of human nature. They are as applicable to humans today as they were when they developed, even if no one today can explain their rationale. However imperfect society may be, we should measure it against the cruelty and deprivation of the actual past, not the harmony and affluence of an imagined future. We are fortunate enough to live in a society that more or less works, and our first priority should be not to screw it up, because human nature always leaves us teetering on the brink of barbarism. And since no one is smart enough to predict the behavior of a single human being, let alone millions of them interacting in a society, we should distrust any formula for changing society from the top down, because it is likely to have unintended consequences that are worse than the problems it was designed to fix.

    In the Utopian Vision, human nature changes with social circumstances, so traditional institutions have no inherent value. That was then, this is now. Traditions are the dead hand of the past, the attempt to rule from the grave. Moreover, the existence of suffering and injustice presents us with an undeniable moral imperative. We don’t know what we can achieve until we try, and the alternative, resigning ourselves to these evils as the way of the world, is unconscionable. The future does not belong to those who are content with today, apathetic toward common problems and their fellow man alike, timid and fearful in the face of new ideas and bold projects. Our future may lie beyond our vision, but it is not completely beyond our control.

    Those with the Tragic Vision are unmoved by ringing declarations attributed to the first-person plural we, our, and us. They are more likely to use the pronouns as the cartoon possum Pogo did: We have met the enemy, and he is us. We are all members of the same flawed species. Putting our moral vision into practice means imposing our will on others. The human lust for power and esteem, coupled with its vulnerability to self-deception and self-righteousness, makes that an invitation to a calamity, all the worse when that power is directed at a goal as quixotic as eradicating human self-interest. As the conservative philosopher Michael Oakshott wrote, “To try to do something which is inherently impossible is always a corrupting enterprise.””

    Read More
    • Replies: @yeah
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Good stuff - thanks! So good to know I am not alone in my disgust and puzzlement about the ultra liberal phenomenon of our times. The puzzlement dissipates somewhat with informed exchanges (but still lot of reading needed - thanks for references) but the disgust remains. I can tolerate any party line provided it does not violate common sense, is not based on lies and hypocrisy, and the other side does not want to banish me for my differing views. The Harvard and Yale Professors, whose writings were cited in the article, are what riled me, nay got me fighting mad. Cheers and peace, Professors excluded!
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • yeah says:
    @Art Deco
    I think I'd re-read Alvin Gouldner and Thos. Sowell.

    Here's a hypothesis: the cluster you've identified consists of taking positions which are not vernacular, commonsensical, traditional, or derived from the mundane experience of earning a living in various trades. The self-aggrandizing bourgeois of our own time establishes their oh-so-very-specialness by adopting stances contra the surrounding society and contra previous generations, the more perverse the better. The political action and cultural memes propagated by these types promote the social position of the New Class of attorneys, higher education apparatchicks, and media as the distributors or recognition and reward in society at large. The yammer about 'racism', which is very seldom accompanied by advocacy of one blessed thing beneficial to black wage-earners, is a means of stripping authority from previous generations to aggrandize elements of the present generation. Bad elements.

    @ Art Deco

    Delighted to have this exchange with you. Please suggest specific titles by Gouldner and Sowell, would love to dig in.

    I see your point and find myself agreeing. To put it bluntly, all this militant identity politics, transgender obsessions, fanatical atheism, race and animal rights, human rights advocacy accompanied by extreme violence and intolerance of other viewpoints, silliness and unprecedented hypocrisy coming from educated and virtuous platforms – this whole package of stinking insanity in short – is promoted by people who have never had to work for a living and is basically a cloud of fluff blown out to mask the real action going on in real politics, the actions amounting to the picking of pockets, outright robbery, and other thuggery across class and generational lines. Interesting pick this, the generational thing, on your part. Yeah, we older folk are simply scratching our heads at the brazen hypocrisy, monumental lying, and the evil being perpetrated under the banners of ‘human rights’, ‘progress’, ‘gender and racial equality’, and generally all the other doubletalk and doublethink that constitutes the dominant discourse of our times.

    But I still scratch my head: Why in our times and not earlier? What has caused this generation to give a heave-ho to common sense, elementary logic, and critical thinking? What virus has taken over the human mind and where will this all end? I have never been religious, but the mass scale abandonment of tradition and religion I suspect is an important underlying cause as well. Lastly, and most importantly, how do we attract younger generations back into the conservative fold?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Tradecraft46
    Derbyshire is not part of the culture. The people Hillary would want to exterminate are skilled in arms, and have a lot of friends. Her mob is a bunch weaklings, saw a lot at Hopkins back in the day. They know the ground, and after some misbehavior they would suffer some extreme pain.

    The model would be Ollie Cromwell at Drogheda: "Nits will be lice."

    I guess you’re referring to coddled white far-left college students. They are by far not the bulk of the Democrat Party’s supporters or the anti-Western coalition in the USA generally.

    Don’t be so sure that tens of millions of African and Mexican-”Americans” are “a bunch of weaklings.” Because that is precisely who Clinton and her ilk are counting on, and can reliably count on, to exterminate or drive out any white people left in their vicinity when things turn violent.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • JackOH says:
    @Art Deco
    I think I'd re-read Alvin Gouldner and Thos. Sowell.

    Here's a hypothesis: the cluster you've identified consists of taking positions which are not vernacular, commonsensical, traditional, or derived from the mundane experience of earning a living in various trades. The self-aggrandizing bourgeois of our own time establishes their oh-so-very-specialness by adopting stances contra the surrounding society and contra previous generations, the more perverse the better. The political action and cultural memes propagated by these types promote the social position of the New Class of attorneys, higher education apparatchicks, and media as the distributors or recognition and reward in society at large. The yammer about 'racism', which is very seldom accompanied by advocacy of one blessed thing beneficial to black wage-earners, is a means of stripping authority from previous generations to aggrandize elements of the present generation. Bad elements.

    Agree, Art Deco, there’s something to what you say. A few times I joined with some local fellow citizens for political activity. They seemed to have a good cause, I’d contribute a body, and there’d be a chance for good fellowship.

    The fellowship part is where I got off the bus and never got back on. Most of my fellow citizens seemed to be Democrats of the rabid and barely concealed SJW type. Government workers, big corporation types, teachers and profs with homes in the ‘burbs and parlor-pink Leftist attitudes. Small town snobberies, cheap opinions of convenience, attitudinal logrolling, that sort of deal.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @JackOH
    Auntie, you nailed it. The goal of our masters is to poison, by propaganda and legislation, whole categories of thought and feeling once regarded as pretty normal and healthy. What makes Unz Review so startling is that most of the stuff we talk about is unobjectionable, but our masters have improperly shunted much of the talk here into the political cesspools of racism and so on..

    I saw the soft chains of internalized censorship, i. e., self-censorship, among economically comfortable West Germans when I used to travel there semi-regularly before the fall of the Wall. Looks like they're paying a pretty severe price for that abridged political consciousness they had to live with. Most of us here, like the West Germans, have enough folding money for consumer goods, but the compass of our political thought is very small. We're being played.

    I think Kafka, Richard Matheson, and other fiction writers have covered the phenomena of alienation, "stranger in a strange land" discombobulation, which is what a lot of us are talking about.

    We’re being played.

    Amen.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @henry_bowman
    Seems like Jews are smarter than Gentiles. Or is there some other conclusion to draw from your comment?

    Seems like Jews are smarter than Gentiles. Or is there some other conclusion to draw from your comment?

    The Shrub, GWB, gradjyated from both of those esteemed institutions, did he not?

    I therefore conclude that there are other conclusions.

    PS, If they’re so smart, then why do they have to go to skool, especially when they’re nothing more than expensive social clubs, a fact known since at least Ben Franklin’s time?

    Benjamin Franklin attended school for two years, and his schooling ended when he was ten.
    This is Ben Franklin (as Silence Dogood) at age 16 :

    “…I reflected in my Mind on the extreme Folly of those Parents, who, blind to their Childrens Dullness, and insensible of the Solidity of their Skulls, because they think their Purses can afford it, will need send them to the Temple of Learning, where, for want of a suitable Genius, they learn little more than how to carry themselves handsomely, and enter a Room genteely, (which might as well be acquir’d at a Dancing-School,) and from whence they return, after Abundance of Trouble and Charge, as great Blockheads as ever, only more proud and self-conceited.

    …[and] he, without much Study, presently interpreted it, assuring me, That it was a lively Representation of HARVARD COLLEGE, Etcetera. I remain, Sir, Your Humble Servant,

    Silence Dogood, (No. 4)

    Printed in The New-England Courant, May 14, 1722.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Corvinus
    "If affirmative action ends, the other body of anti-discrimination law will be open to attack, and if that goes, so will diversity."

    One does not lead to the other. Anti-discrimination laws have a purpose here. You Southrons got too greedy with your application of Jim Crow.

    "The fashwave that is sweeping the West is in response to the general failures of liberal democracy, but it needs to start by taking out the Left’s most potent weapon against us, namely genetic eradication through outbreeding."

    White people will continue to make their own decisions regarding who they marry and sire offspring, whether it be within or outside their race. Good luck stripping anyone of their "potent weapon".

    "And send the Irish back."

    How mighty anti-white of you to say.

    And, as a aside, political attitudes are PARTLY genetic. Prior studies found that variations in the DRD4 gene were linked to a person’s political views, but only in limited circumstances. “It requires a context in which people are exposed to certain social environments,” said psychologist Richard P. Ebstein, who indicated that the number of friends one has is a mitigating factor.

    And you civil rights activists got too greedy with disparate impact. When the Asians are made aware of these realities all bets are off. No one is going to care about jim crow in the future.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "And you civil rights activists got too greedy with disparate impact."

    We already covered this ground in a previous discussion. An important thing to note is that disparate impact is not, in and of itself, illegal.

    "When the Asians are made aware of these realities all bets are off. No one is going to care about jim crow in the future."

    Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter. We will take it from here.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:
    @Brett Stevens
    It is not "anti-white" to note that white people have not achieved unity because different white groups see themselves as distinct, and do not want to merge into generic white. Further, white diversity has been a disaster in the USA. As my own research reveals, Irish immigration shifted the country to the Left, culminating in JFK, who was our first diversity president:

    http://www.amerika.org/politics/did-irish-immigration-shift-america-to-the-left/

    “It is not “anti-white” to note that white people have not achieved unity because different white groups see themselves as distinct, and do not want to merge into generic white.”

    To the contrary, it is “anti-white” because you insist that a certain group of whites are other than desirable. You seek to restore your own version of civilization by seeking certain genes to die out. Your “truth” is nothing more than a biological nightmare. Besides, different groups of white people have the inherent liberty to make their own decisions about politics and race.

    One of your commenters noted about “being realistic about historical cycles is a great first step. Civilizations have life cycles, and the Anglosphere is no exception…Anglos have every right to self segregate and build something in accordance with their unique tastes and predilections. It’s not clear if most Anglos are capable of what you envision, but it doesn’t mean giving up. Millions of Anglos in North America are mixed with other ethnic groups at this point, so you have a tough slog ahead of you, but by all means continue. Getting the Irish to move back to Ireland is going to be a tough sell though. They tend to get ornery when Anglos try to push them around.”

    Your quest is rooted in Ivory Tower logic, meaningless memes, and anti-humanity philosophy. Feel free to pitch your brand of snake oil, but the customers know full well of its toxicity.

    Your own “research” is predicated on outright falsehoods and confirmation bias galore. But, if you want to continue propagandize your audience, you have that liberty. Just do not expect your version of Heaven to decisively move the needle.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Brett Stevens
    Here is the summary of your reasoning:

    "Muh freedom."

    You are unwilling to do what is necessary to actually achieve the change we need, which is a restored and healthy West. That will not happen through your democratic rhetoric.

    Diversity fails, including white diversity. We can either be like dumb Republicans and keep trying to make the failure work, or can admit that diversity is the problem and that there is no "good" mixing of groups, so we need to separate.

    Let us look at why whites have not united, and why even now when there is some shared interest, it falls short from demanding white homelands. We are not likely to pair up with people who we see as different from ourselves, in the name of what is really an abstraction in "whiteness." This is why white nationalism has always failed in America, and why in Europe identitarian and nationalist movements have more traction.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • annamaria says:
    @Brett Stevens
    The refugees coming into Europe are not from Washington's wars, but the massive increase in third world population without a corresponding increase in production. They are coming to Europe for the free social benefits and the ability to conquer. They would have done this anyway, but only now are these societies so blinded by Leftism that they will let them in, give them free money and housing, and look the other way while they rape their way across the continent. Remember that Merkel et al. started this current wave by inviting the 'fugees in so that they could work, be taxed, and pay for Baby Boomer retirement programs.

    “The refugees coming into Europe are not from Washington’s wars…”

    Actually, the waves of sub-Saharan migrants flooding Europe are the result of Washington’s wars. First of all, it was the DC-sponsored murder of Colonel Qaddaffi, an outstanding leader who transformed Libya into a gem of North Africa (now completely ruined by ziocons’ intervention). The murder and the consequent west-cultivated chaos in Libya have destroyed the protection of Europe against the migrants.
    Look no farther than the private cartel of Federal Reserve, oilmen, Israel-firsters, and MIC. Are they Leftists? Merkel simply tried to follow the normative ideas of western civilization, which are not working anymore thanks to the DC “deciders.” There were of course certain enthusiastic locals that must be persecuted in accordance with international law, such as the Gargoyle Sarkozy, a trigger-happy warrior against sovereign Libya.
    By the way, who has pocketed Libyan gold reserve?

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/07/hiding-us-lies-about-libyan-invasion/

    https://consortiumnews.com/tag/muammar-gaddafi/?print=print-search

    Read More
    • Replies: @Brett Stevens
    You seem to be ignoring the fact that Europe invited these people in as laborers, and only then did they start coming in the numbers like what we see now.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @SolontoCroesus
    Is there a substantive argument in your word pile, Anon?

    No. Merely an attempt, with less self importance or solemnity to match like with like.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • There does seem to be a growing alt right lite revolt against extreme political correctness and SJW activism, but whether that is due to Trump’s election or not is hard to say.

    The alt right lite revolt started gathering steam in late 2015 in response to the extreme, self-destructive, behaviour of some SJWs. This pissed off everyone from moderate (but not easily imitated) college professors like Jordan Peterson to dope smoking libertarians on YouTube. Similarly, the Democrats unreasonable attacks on Russia have led to the Russian media now becoming a useful vehicle for expressing alt right lite opinions. For example, even the left-wing economic commentator Max Keiser is now mocking “special snowflake” SJWs.

    Having such a diverse range of people attacking the far left makes it difficult for them to hit back, since hitting back depends heavily on being able to negatively stereotype your opponent. This is easy if your opponent is a conservative upper-middle class white male, but how are you supposed to stereotype Blaire White, Roaming Millennial, or Milo Yiannopoulos?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • nickels says:
    @annamaria
    In case you are serious about "Russia should stop destabilizing Ukraine" and not a thinly veiled propagandist, here are some illuminating moments for you:
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/13/putin-ukraine-and-what-americans-know/

    "As The New York Times has instructed us, there was no coup in Ukraine; there was no U.S. interference; and there weren’t even that many neo-Nazis....
    The Prosecutor General was shot at, one of the security officers was wounded. And the motorcade of President Yanukovych himself was shot at. So it’s nothing short of an armed seizure of power.
    ... the new regime in Kiev immediately sought to limit use of the Russian language and allowed extreme nationalist elements to move against eastern provinces known as the Donbass where ethnic Russians were the vast majority of the population." [The decision to initiate a civil war against the federalists in East Ukraine had been taking immediately after the arrival of Brennan, then the director of the CIA. http://archive.larouchepac.com/node/30477]
    Not surprisingly, "More than 90 percent of the Crimean population turned out, they voted, and once the ballot was cast, the [Crimean] Parliament, based on the outcome of the referendum, addressed the Russian parliament, asking to incorporate it into the Russian Federation."

    If you are in a possession of facts that refute the above story, please provide the facts.

    That wasn’t my line, it was idiot Trump’s line.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @annamaria
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/07/this-is-what-plutocracy-looks-like/

    "The howls of outrage coming from displaced Democrats would be hilarious if they weren’t so pathetic. Quickly, who wrote Barack Obama’s ‘signature’ legislation, the ACA (Affordable Care Act)? A health insurance industry lobbyist named Liz Fowler wrote it. Who are the intended beneficiaries from the ISDS (Investor-State Dispute Settlement) provisions of the TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) ‘free’ trade agreement that Mr. Obama so vigorously supported? Wall Street, hedge funds and multi-national corporations at the expense of national, state and local governments and their citizens.
    Barack Obama was the ‘deporter in chief’ of economic refugees from Mexico displaced by Bill Clinton’s passage of NAFTA. Mr. Obama’s Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, supported a right-wing coup in Honduras and then argued that the orphaned child-refugees fleeing the resulting violence should be forcibly returned there.
    The charge here isn’t that ‘both parties do it,’ but rather that they— Democrats and Republicans, are partners on the side of reigning plutocrats in a class war against a broadly-defined global working class. "

    Would you care to explain your reference to “economic refugees” created by NAFTA? Prima facie that is the reverse of what one would expect from exporting jobs to Mexico.

    Read More
    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    If I can stick my nose in:

    https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/globalization-and-nafta-caused-migration-from-mexico/

    Cheap US agribusiness corn put many local Mexican just above subsistence farmers out of business.

    I also remember a VDARE article (I don't have the link) where GHWB was reported to have told the current Mexican President (I think it was Salinas) that he would look the other way on illegals from Mexico if NAFTA was passed. Buchanan has written that he told GHWB to close the border when it was obvious that Reagan's amnesty was a huge mistake. GHWB did nothing.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Corvinus
    "It is not “anti-white” to note that white people have not achieved unity because different white groups see themselves as distinct, and do not want to merge into generic white."

    To the contrary, it is "anti-white" because you insist that a certain group of whites are other than desirable. You seek to restore your own version of civilization by seeking certain genes to die out. Your "truth" is nothing more than a biological nightmare. Besides, different groups of white people have the inherent liberty to make their own decisions about politics and race.

    One of your commenters noted about "being realistic about historical cycles is a great first step. Civilizations have life cycles, and the Anglosphere is no exception...Anglos have every right to self segregate and build something in accordance with their unique tastes and predilections. It's not clear if most Anglos are capable of what you envision, but it doesn't mean giving up. Millions of Anglos in North America are mixed with other ethnic groups at this point, so you have a tough slog ahead of you, but by all means continue. Getting the Irish to move back to Ireland is going to be a tough sell though. They tend to get ornery when Anglos try to push them around."

    Your quest is rooted in Ivory Tower logic, meaningless memes, and anti-humanity philosophy. Feel free to pitch your brand of snake oil, but the customers know full well of its toxicity.

    Your own "research" is predicated on outright falsehoods and confirmation bias galore. But, if you want to continue propagandize your audience, you have that liberty. Just do not expect your version of Heaven to decisively move the needle.

    Here is the summary of your reasoning:

    “Muh freedom.”

    You are unwilling to do what is necessary to actually achieve the change we need, which is a restored and healthy West. That will not happen through your democratic rhetoric.

    Diversity fails, including white diversity. We can either be like dumb Republicans and keep trying to make the failure work, or can admit that diversity is the problem and that there is no “good” mixing of groups, so we need to separate.

    Let us look at why whites have not united, and why even now when there is some shared interest, it falls short from demanding white homelands. We are not likely to pair up with people who we see as different from ourselves, in the name of what is really an abstraction in “whiteness.” This is why white nationalism has always failed in America, and why in Europe identitarian and nationalist movements have more traction.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Here is the summary of your reasoning: “Muh freedom.”

    Dialectic is required here, not Southron rhetoric. Regardless, We The People will fight to the death for it. There will be no return of a monarchial form of government to the States.

    "You are unwilling to do what is necessary to actually achieve the change we need, which is a restored and healthy West. That will not happen through your democratic rhetoric."

    We The People are more than willing to do what it takes to ensure that our nation will be protected against charlatans like yourself.

    "Diversity fails, including white diversity."

    You do realize that America's political traditions were a result of the combined efforts of the Britons, the Picts, the Romans, and the Anglo-Saxon tribes. Moreover, this “American experiment” was the product of the English, Greek, and Roman ways of governance, as well as the philosophies of the Enlightenment. Diversity generally emerges victorious.

    "We can either be like dumb Republicans and keep trying to make the failure work, or can admit that diversity is the problem and that there is no “good” mixing of groups, so we need to separate."

    YOU are compelled to separate.

    "Let us look at why whites have not united, and why even now when there is some shared interest, it falls short from demanding white homelands."

    White Americans have their homeland.

    "This is why white nationalism has always failed in America, and why in Europe identitarian and nationalist movements have more traction."

    And those movements will decidedly not result in the restoration of governments led by kings.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • yeah says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    As Art Deco noted, Thomas Sowell's A Conflict of Visions, here paraphrased and condensed by Steven Pinker (in The Blank Slate).

    "The right-left axis aligns an astonishing collection of beliefs that at first glance seem to have nothing in common. If you learn that someone is in favor of a strong military, for example, it is a good bet that the person is also in favor of judicial restraint rather than judicial activism. If someone believes in the importance of religion, chances are she will be tough on crime and in favor of lower taxes. Proponents of a laissez-faire economic policy tend to value patriotism and the family, and they are more likely to be old than young, pragmatic than idealistic, censorious than permissive, meritocratic than egalitarian, gradualist than revolutionary, and in a business rather than a university or government agency. The opposing positions cluster just as reliably: if someone is sympathetic to rehabilitating offenders, or to affirmative action, or to generous welfare programs, or to a tolerance of homosexuality, chances are good that he will also be a pacifist, an environmentalist, an activist, an egalitarian, a secularist, and a professor or student.
    Why on earth should people's beliefs about sex predict their beliefs about the size of the military? What does religion have to do with taxes? Whence the linkage between strict construction of the Constitution and disdain for shocking art? Before we can understand why beliefs about an innate human nature might cluster with liberal beliefs or with conservative beliefs, we have to understand why liberal beliefs cluster with other liberal beliefs and conservative beliefs cluster with other conservative beliefs.

    The most sweeping attempt to survey the underlying dimension is Thomas Sowell's A Conflict of Visions. Not every ideological struggle fits his scheme, but as we say in social science, he has identified a factor that can account for a large proportion of the variance. Sowell explains two “visions” of the nature of human beings that were expressed in their purest forms by Edmund Burke (1729–1797), the patron of secular conservatism, and William Godwin (1756–1836), the British counterpart to Rousseau. In earlier times they might have been referred to as different visions of the perfectibility of man. Sowell calls them the Constrained Vision and the Unconstrained Vision; I will refer to them as the Tragic Vision (a term he uses in a later book) and the Utopian Vision.

    In the Tragic Vision, humans are inherently limited in knowledge, wisdom, and virtue, and all social arrangements must acknowledge those limits.

    In the Utopian Vision, psychological limitations are artifacts that come from our social arrangements, and we should not allow them to restrict our gaze from what is possible in a better world. Its creed might be “Some people see things as they are and ask ‘why?'; I dream things that never were and ask ‘why not?'”

    In the Tragic Vision, our moral sentiments, no matter how beneficent, overlie a deeper bedrock of selfishness. That selfishness is not the cruelty or aggression of the psychopath, but a concern for our well-being that is so much a part of our makeup that we seldom reflect on it and would waste our time lamenting it or trying to erase it. In the Tragic Vision, moreover, human nature has not changed. Traditions such as religion, the family, social customs, sexual mores, and political institutions are a distillation of time-tested techniques that let us work around the shortcomings of human nature. They are as applicable to humans today as they were when they developed, even if no one today can explain their rationale. However imperfect society may be, we should measure it against the cruelty and deprivation of the actual past, not the harmony and affluence of an imagined future. We are fortunate enough to live in a society that more or less works, and our first priority should be not to screw it up, because human nature always leaves us teetering on the brink of barbarism. And since no one is smart enough to predict the behavior of a single human being, let alone millions of them interacting in a society, we should distrust any formula for changing society from the top down, because it is likely to have unintended consequences that are worse than the problems it was designed to fix.

    In the Utopian Vision, human nature changes with social circumstances, so traditional institutions have no inherent value. That was then, this is now. Traditions are the dead hand of the past, the attempt to rule from the grave. Moreover, the existence of suffering and injustice presents us with an undeniable moral imperative. We don't know what we can achieve until we try, and the alternative, resigning ourselves to these evils as the way of the world, is unconscionable. The future does not belong to those who are content with today, apathetic toward common problems and their fellow man alike, timid and fearful in the face of new ideas and bold projects. Our future may lie beyond our vision, but it is not completely beyond our control.

    Those with the Tragic Vision are unmoved by ringing declarations attributed to the first-person plural we, our, and us. They are more likely to use the pronouns as the cartoon possum Pogo did: We have met the enemy, and he is us. We are all members of the same flawed species. Putting our moral vision into practice means imposing our will on others. The human lust for power and esteem, coupled with its vulnerability to self-deception and self-righteousness, makes that an invitation to a calamity, all the worse when that power is directed at a goal as quixotic as eradicating human self-interest. As the conservative philosopher Michael Oakshott wrote, “To try to do something which is inherently impossible is always a corrupting enterprise.”"
     

    Good stuff – thanks! So good to know I am not alone in my disgust and puzzlement about the ultra liberal phenomenon of our times. The puzzlement dissipates somewhat with informed exchanges (but still lot of reading needed – thanks for references) but the disgust remains. I can tolerate any party line provided it does not violate common sense, is not based on lies and hypocrisy, and the other side does not want to banish me for my differing views. The Harvard and Yale Professors, whose writings were cited in the article, are what riled me, nay got me fighting mad. Cheers and peace, Professors excluded!

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @annamaria
    "The refugees coming into Europe are not from Washington’s wars..."

    Actually, the waves of sub-Saharan migrants flooding Europe are the result of Washington’s wars. First of all, it was the DC-sponsored murder of Colonel Qaddaffi, an outstanding leader who transformed Libya into a gem of North Africa (now completely ruined by ziocons' intervention). The murder and the consequent west-cultivated chaos in Libya have destroyed the protection of Europe against the migrants.
    Look no farther than the private cartel of Federal Reserve, oilmen, Israel-firsters, and MIC. Are they Leftists? Merkel simply tried to follow the normative ideas of western civilization, which are not working anymore thanks to the DC "deciders." There were of course certain enthusiastic locals that must be persecuted in accordance with international law, such as the Gargoyle Sarkozy, a trigger-happy warrior against sovereign Libya.
    By the way, who has pocketed Libyan gold reserve?
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/07/hiding-us-lies-about-libyan-invasion/
    https://consortiumnews.com/tag/muammar-gaddafi/?print=print-search

    You seem to be ignoring the fact that Europe invited these people in as laborers, and only then did they start coming in the numbers like what we see now.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • From time to time, our President displays a lack of self-restraint, allowing his inner nitwit to escape from its cage, as in his feuds with Mika Brzezinski and CNN.

    Trump is no nitwit. He is destroying the opposition with these tweets. Who now will take Mika’s political views seriously when all they have in their minds is a rejected bleeding face. Bleeding that doesn’t create pity, but only disgust because the cause of the bleeding is just the vanity of a silly hypocritical woman who was rejected.

    And Mika is MSNBC and MSNBC is CNN and other FAKE NEWS outlets. Ridiculous organizations that take themselves and their mission much too seriously because we all NOW know that they’re run by a bunch of vain self-important hypocritical know-nothings who are also rejected losers.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Avery
    Agree.

    The MSM scum have had a free ride for decades.
    They are low-life parasites that contribute nothing to society, but reserve themselves the right to screw with our lives.

    They play dirty, but don't expect the targets of their scorn and bile to play dirty.
    Good for Trump.
    The clueless reptiles are confounded by Trump's unexpected sucker punches.
    Go Trump.

    Agree or disagree with Trump, but the self-important talking heads of MSM being cut down to size is the best entertainment of the year.
    Hopefully they will crash & burn and disappear from public life.

    , @Corvinus
    Paul--"Trump is no nitwit. He is destroying the opposition with these tweets."
    Avery--"They are low-life parasites that contribute nothing to society."

    This is why I love this blog. You realize you sink to the lowest common intellectual denominator when you make these statements. The media is NOT fake news. It certainly is biased, but the reader or viewer then uses their brain, reads several sources from both the left and the right on a particular issue, and formulates a position or opinion. Being entirely dismissive of the media and the content of their stories only demonstrates absolute ignorance. It is easy to live and think this way.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • annamaria says:

    “…Europe invited these people in as laborers…”
    You mean, Europe invited the multitude of sub-Saharan African males with no education and no idea of western manners? Check again.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • Avery says:
    @Paul Yarbles

    From time to time, our President displays a lack of self-restraint, allowing his inner nitwit to escape from its cage, as in his feuds with Mika Brzezinski and CNN.
     
    Trump is no nitwit. He is destroying the opposition with these tweets. Who now will take Mika's political views seriously when all they have in their minds is a rejected bleeding face. Bleeding that doesn't create pity, but only disgust because the cause of the bleeding is just the vanity of a silly hypocritical woman who was rejected.

    And Mika is MSNBC and MSNBC is CNN and other FAKE NEWS outlets. Ridiculous organizations that take themselves and their mission much too seriously because we all NOW know that they're run by a bunch of vain self-important hypocritical know-nothings who are also rejected losers.

    Agree.

    The MSM scum have had a free ride for decades.
    They are low-life parasites that contribute nothing to society, but reserve themselves the right to screw with our lives.

    They play dirty, but don’t expect the targets of their scorn and bile to play dirty.
    Good for Trump.
    The clueless reptiles are confounded by Trump’s unexpected sucker punches.
    Go Trump.

    Agree or disagree with Trump, but the self-important talking heads of MSM being cut down to size is the best entertainment of the year.
    Hopefully they will crash & burn and disappear from public life.

    Read More
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    The mainstream media has always been dishonest. From the "yellow journalism" of the late 1800s and early 1900s, journalism has shown its true (communistic) roots.
    From the lies about the Spanish-American war to the New York Times walter duranty hiding the truth about and denying the artificially created and forced communist "famine" in the Ukraine, to the lies about the 1968 Viet Nam communist Tet offensive (a military victory for the South and American troops) reported by walter cronkite as a military defeat, cronkite and his ilk were successful in prolonging the Viet Nam war for years, giving "aid and comfort" to the enemy, who bragged about being supported by the U S media.
    Look at NBCs doctoring of GMC truck gas tanks, rigging them to explode, and the deliberate mischaracterization of George Zimmerman's conversation withe the 911 dispatcher, deleting a key phrase, as well as showing Trayvon Martin as a 12-year-old rather than his more recent "thug" facebook picture.
    The media has become a "fifth column" of the government and is not to be trusted.
    To our advantage, we now have the internet, which gives the ability for ordinary citizens to be real "journalists", quite often getting and reporting the story TRUTHFULLY before the mainstream media.
    In fact, there are calls by "mainstream media" to "license" journalists, in an attempt to keep these "citizen journalists" out...twenty years ago, any journalist suggesting such a scheme would have been thrown out, but nowadays...
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Art Deco
    It’s funny how all those social conservatives with lesbian daughters felt the need to support gay marriage, but the liberal with a celibate lesbian daughter feels no need to be minimally polite about her lifestyle choice.

    The only people I can think of who might resemble some part of your description would be Alan Keyes, Elizabeth Scalia, Laura Ingraham, and Rob Portman. Only Keyes has a problem daughter. Scalia and Ingraham have problem brothers and Portman has a problem son. Portman's not a 'social conservative'; he's an haut bourgeois careerist politician / lawyer - just one who found a Republican affiliation expedient. I'm fairly sure at least two of the other three never endorsed homosexual pseudogamy. Keyes has been estranged from his daughter for periods of time as well. Is there someone I missed?

    Eve Tushnet is regarded with some skepticism by certain Catholic writers:

    http://www.crisismagazine.com/2013/the-new-homophiles

    Dick Cheney was the first one who comes to mind. Maybe he’s not the socon’s socon, but he came out for gay marriage very early for a Republican, and I remember a lot of people saying “of course, his daughter, only natural.” So where in the world is Mark Tushnet’s natural paternal feeling?

    Read More
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Cheney's a Republican careerist. I think his wife is something of a SoCon, though more of the sort concerned with academic and intellectual life (see Roger Kimball). Not sure what she's said on the issue. Mary Cheney crabbed at her older sister publicly because Elizabeth simply would not endorse the burlesque. (We're I to spin the roulette wheel, my money would be on the proposition that the point of origin of Mary Cheney's homosexuality was older daughter crowding out younger daughter in mama's affections, and younger daughter bonding to papa instead).
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:
    @Epochehusserl
    And you civil rights activists got too greedy with disparate impact. When the Asians are made aware of these realities all bets are off. No one is going to care about jim crow in the future.

    “And you civil rights activists got too greedy with disparate impact.”

    We already covered this ground in a previous discussion. An important thing to note is that disparate impact is not, in and of itself, illegal.

    “When the Asians are made aware of these realities all bets are off. No one is going to care about jim crow in the future.”

    Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter. We will take it from here.

    Read More
    • Replies: @epochehusserl
    And you civil rights activists got too greedy with disparate impact.”
    We already covered this ground in a previous discussion. An important thing to note is that disparate impact is not, in and of itself, illegal.
    ------------------------------------
    You explained to me that bureaucrats have the right to impose quotas on private organizations through their own statutory interpretation of law in contradiction to democratically elected law. The CRA of 1964 explictly prohibits quotas and the eeoc routinely imposes quotas. No democratically elected law has ever condoned quotas. Bakke and Ricci prohibit quotas as well. They never had the votes for quotas. If they want quotas they should vote them in like every other federal imposition and not use bureaucrats to subvert democratically elected law. The fact that organizations that receive federal monies can impose different standards for people based upon ancestry (giving people points for their ethnicity on the SAT) would appear to be in violation of the 14th amendment as well.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • MarkinLA says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Would you care to explain your reference to "economic refugees" created by NAFTA? Prima facie that is the reverse of what one would expect from exporting jobs to Mexico.

    If I can stick my nose in:

    https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/globalization-and-nafta-caused-migration-from-mexico/

    Cheap US agribusiness corn put many local Mexican just above subsistence farmers out of business.

    I also remember a VDARE article (I don’t have the link) where GHWB was reported to have told the current Mexican President (I think it was Salinas) that he would look the other way on illegals from Mexico if NAFTA was passed. Buchanan has written that he told GHWB to close the border when it was obvious that Reagan’s amnesty was a huge mistake. GHWB did nothing.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Thanks. Interesting - and shocking - in so far as it was US subsidised agriculture which helped ruin Mexican farmers.

    I am reminded of the Highland Clearances which also resulted in impoverished rural people emigrating.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:
    @Paul Yarbles

    From time to time, our President displays a lack of self-restraint, allowing his inner nitwit to escape from its cage, as in his feuds with Mika Brzezinski and CNN.
     
    Trump is no nitwit. He is destroying the opposition with these tweets. Who now will take Mika's political views seriously when all they have in their minds is a rejected bleeding face. Bleeding that doesn't create pity, but only disgust because the cause of the bleeding is just the vanity of a silly hypocritical woman who was rejected.

    And Mika is MSNBC and MSNBC is CNN and other FAKE NEWS outlets. Ridiculous organizations that take themselves and their mission much too seriously because we all NOW know that they're run by a bunch of vain self-important hypocritical know-nothings who are also rejected losers.

    Paul–”Trump is no nitwit. He is destroying the opposition with these tweets.”
    Avery–”They are low-life parasites that contribute nothing to society.”

    This is why I love this blog. You realize you sink to the lowest common intellectual denominator when you make these statements. The media is NOT fake news. It certainly is biased, but the reader or viewer then uses their brain, reads several sources from both the left and the right on a particular issue, and formulates a position or opinion. Being entirely dismissive of the media and the content of their stories only demonstrates absolute ignorance. It is easy to live and think this way.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Paul Yarbles
    I was just stating some reasons why I think Trump's tweets are effective. Do you have anything to say about this or do you just like typing about your intellectual and moral superiority?

    Mainstream media outlets such as CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc. have an agenda that I, because of my own views, find baneful. As you said they are biased in their reporting. Entirely dismissing them (by calling them fake news for example) is an effective way to weaken their influence. It is short hand for recognizing that they are not just giving you facts but are trying to sell you a story in a certain way so that their institutional views are promoted. You can still use them as a source, but no longer do you take what they say at face value.

    The days when large news organizations are respected is over. It's now a polemic free-for-all. Like you said, you get your news from different sources and go from there. But recognize that all the sources are unclean. This is not perfect (in fact I find it sad -- like when one of your heroes has some sordid secrets revealed) but much healthier than the make-believe world of unbiased reporting that we had.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:
    @Brett Stevens
    Here is the summary of your reasoning:

    "Muh freedom."

    You are unwilling to do what is necessary to actually achieve the change we need, which is a restored and healthy West. That will not happen through your democratic rhetoric.

    Diversity fails, including white diversity. We can either be like dumb Republicans and keep trying to make the failure work, or can admit that diversity is the problem and that there is no "good" mixing of groups, so we need to separate.

    Let us look at why whites have not united, and why even now when there is some shared interest, it falls short from demanding white homelands. We are not likely to pair up with people who we see as different from ourselves, in the name of what is really an abstraction in "whiteness." This is why white nationalism has always failed in America, and why in Europe identitarian and nationalist movements have more traction.

    “Here is the summary of your reasoning: “Muh freedom.”

    Dialectic is required here, not Southron rhetoric. Regardless, We The People will fight to the death for it. There will be no return of a monarchial form of government to the States.

    “You are unwilling to do what is necessary to actually achieve the change we need, which is a restored and healthy West. That will not happen through your democratic rhetoric.”

    We The People are more than willing to do what it takes to ensure that our nation will be protected against charlatans like yourself.

    “Diversity fails, including white diversity.”

    You do realize that America’s political traditions were a result of the combined efforts of the Britons, the Picts, the Romans, and the Anglo-Saxon tribes. Moreover, this “American experiment” was the product of the English, Greek, and Roman ways of governance, as well as the philosophies of the Enlightenment. Diversity generally emerges victorious.

    “We can either be like dumb Republicans and keep trying to make the failure work, or can admit that diversity is the problem and that there is no “good” mixing of groups, so we need to separate.”

    YOU are compelled to separate.

    “Let us look at why whites have not united, and why even now when there is some shared interest, it falls short from demanding white homelands.”

    White Americans have their homeland.

    “This is why white nationalism has always failed in America, and why in Europe identitarian and nationalist movements have more traction.”

    And those movements will decidedly not result in the restoration of governments led by kings.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @MarkinLA
    If I can stick my nose in:

    https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/globalization-and-nafta-caused-migration-from-mexico/

    Cheap US agribusiness corn put many local Mexican just above subsistence farmers out of business.

    I also remember a VDARE article (I don't have the link) where GHWB was reported to have told the current Mexican President (I think it was Salinas) that he would look the other way on illegals from Mexico if NAFTA was passed. Buchanan has written that he told GHWB to close the border when it was obvious that Reagan's amnesty was a huge mistake. GHWB did nothing.

    Thanks. Interesting – and shocking – in so far as it was US subsidised agriculture which helped ruin Mexican farmers.

    I am reminded of the Highland Clearances which also resulted in impoverished rural people emigrating.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Corvinus
    "And you civil rights activists got too greedy with disparate impact."

    We already covered this ground in a previous discussion. An important thing to note is that disparate impact is not, in and of itself, illegal.

    "When the Asians are made aware of these realities all bets are off. No one is going to care about jim crow in the future."

    Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter. We will take it from here.

    And you civil rights activists got too greedy with disparate impact.”
    We already covered this ground in a previous discussion. An important thing to note is that disparate impact is not, in and of itself, illegal.
    ————————————
    You explained to me that bureaucrats have the right to impose quotas on private organizations through their own statutory interpretation of law in contradiction to democratically elected law. The CRA of 1964 explictly prohibits quotas and the eeoc routinely imposes quotas. No democratically elected law has ever condoned quotas. Bakke and Ricci prohibit quotas as well. They never had the votes for quotas. If they want quotas they should vote them in like every other federal imposition and not use bureaucrats to subvert democratically elected law. The fact that organizations that receive federal monies can impose different standards for people based upon ancestry (giving people points for their ethnicity on the SAT) would appear to be in violation of the 14th amendment as well.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "You explained to me that bureaucrats have the right to impose quotas on private organizations through their own statutory interpretation of law in contradiction to democratically elected law."

    Strawman. That is NOT my argument. Here is the thread that clearly outlines my thought process. Try to pay attention. I'm not going down your rabbit hole.

    https://www.unz.com/comments/isteve/vox-charles-murray-is-once-again-peddling-junk-science-about/

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • vinteuil says:

    wow – without Sailer moderating, at whim, this place quickly degenerates into the takimag comment sewer.

    Read More
    • LOL: Truth
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • There will be no return of a monarchial form of government to the States.

    Well, don’t look now, but of course we don’t call it that!

    Jefferson warned about the tendency and it looks to me that the monarchists have won.

    “In place of that noble love of liberty, & republican government which carried us triumphantly thro’ the war, an Anglican monarchical, & aristocratical party has sprung up, whose avowed object is to draw over us the substance, as they have already done the forms, of the British government…

    It would give you a fever were I to name to you the apostates who have gone over to these heresies… who have had their heads shorn by the harlot England. In short, we are likely to preserve the liberty we have obtained only by unremitting labors & perils.”

    Jefferson, Thomas, Letter To Philip Mazzei
    Monticello, Apr. 24, 1796

    http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=JefLett.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=116&division=div1

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • @Brett Stevens
    It is not "anti-white" to note that white people have not achieved unity because different white groups see themselves as distinct, and do not want to merge into generic white. Further, white diversity has been a disaster in the USA. As my own research reveals, Irish immigration shifted the country to the Left, culminating in JFK, who was our first diversity president:

    http://www.amerika.org/politics/did-irish-immigration-shift-america-to-the-left/

    ” Irish immigration shifted the country to the left”

    Quite right and a strange lot indeed they are, as they worship BO to the same degree as the nutty Germans.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified uS Army vet and pro jazz musician.

    PS My father was born in Belfast.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Brett Stevens


    Quite right and a strange lot indeed they are, as they worship BO to the same degree as the nutty Germans.

     

    All of Europe is a bit infected now because the people are addicted to their social welfare programs. They know that when Leftism falls, all the free money goes away, and do not have the wit to realize that with taxes at a third of what they are now paying, they would have a lot more of their money to spend in the first place.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Corvinus
    Paul--"Trump is no nitwit. He is destroying the opposition with these tweets."
    Avery--"They are low-life parasites that contribute nothing to society."

    This is why I love this blog. You realize you sink to the lowest common intellectual denominator when you make these statements. The media is NOT fake news. It certainly is biased, but the reader or viewer then uses their brain, reads several sources from both the left and the right on a particular issue, and formulates a position or opinion. Being entirely dismissive of the media and the content of their stories only demonstrates absolute ignorance. It is easy to live and think this way.

    I was just stating some reasons why I think Trump’s tweets are effective. Do you have anything to say about this or do you just like typing about your intellectual and moral superiority?

    Mainstream media outlets such as CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc. have an agenda that I, because of my own views, find baneful. As you said they are biased in their reporting. Entirely dismissing them (by calling them fake news for example) is an effective way to weaken their influence. It is short hand for recognizing that they are not just giving you facts but are trying to sell you a story in a certain way so that their institutional views are promoted. You can still use them as a source, but no longer do you take what they say at face value.

    The days when large news organizations are respected is over. It’s now a polemic free-for-all. Like you said, you get your news from different sources and go from there. But recognize that all the sources are unclean. This is not perfect (in fact I find it sad — like when one of your heroes has some sordid secrets revealed) but much healthier than the make-believe world of unbiased reporting that we had.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Truth


    I was just stating some reasons why I think Trump’s tweets are effective.
     

    Yes, the esteemed most powerful man in the world acting like a 13- year old cheerleader experiencing her first period, on a daily basis; highly effective.
    , @Corvinus
    "I was just stating some reasons why I think Trump’s tweets are effective. Do you have anything to say about this or do you just like typing about your intellectual and moral superiority?"

    Would you be saying the same thing if a Democrat/liberal was responding in a similar boorish manner? Then again, that is what our political leaders, left and right, have become.

    "Mainstream media outlets such as CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc. have an agenda that I, because of my own views, find baneful."

    As does Fox News and alternative media sites.

    "Entirely dismissing them (by calling them fake news for example) is an effective way to weaken their influence."

    It is other than effective. It demonstrates a person's intellectual laziness. There may be considerable factual evidence that he or she merely discounts because they heard it from CNN/MSNBC/NYT, which results in an ill-informed, easily manipulated citizenry.

    "It is short hand for recognizing that they are not just giving you facts but are trying to sell you a story in a certain way so that their institutional views are promoted. You can still use them as a source, but no longer do you take what they say at face value."

    Except those who screech "Fake News" are NOT using them as a source and NOT investigating further what is the take or angle of the story.

    "The days when large news organizations are respected is over. It’s now a polemic free-for-all."

    Alternative Media organizations are no different. They also craft there own "truths".

    "Like you said, you get your news from different sources and go from there. But recognize that all the sources are unclean."

    Exactly. That is why this "Fake New" meme is utterly meaningless.

    "This is not perfect (in fact I find it sad — like when one of your heroes has some sordid secrets revealed) but much healthier than the make-believe world of unbiased reporting that we had."

    People even in the 1960's realized that, say Walter Kronkite, had their "biases".
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Hibernian says:
    @Brett Stevens
    If affirmative action ends, the other body of anti-discrimination law will be open to attack, and if that goes, so will diversity.

    That would be glorious.

    The fashwave that is sweeping the West is in response to the general failures of liberal democracy, but it needs to start by taking out the Left's most potent weapon against us, namely genetic eradication through outbreeding.

    And send the Irish back.

    “And send the Irish back.”

    Sorry, I refuse to cut myself into three parts and send 5/8 of myself to Ireland and 3/8 elsewhere.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Brett Stevens
    No reason not to repatriate to Ireland if you are 5/8 Irish.
    , @Truth
    Looking for a volunteer?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @German_reader
    That's a bit of a difficult subject, not easy to judge. The DDR of course made a big show of being the "antifascist" Germany, whereas all the former Nazis supposedly now were influential in West Germany. I think there actually was some truth in this insofar as really high-ranking Nazis generally didn't have great careers post-war in East Germany like they did in the west. The DDR also did bring some Nazi criminals to trial, and actually even executed some of them until the 1970s (last case seems to have been in 1978, according to this: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_in_der_DDR_hingerichteten_Personen ), e.g.:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Fischer
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Bl%C3%B6sche

    But of course there were hundreds of thousands, probably millions of ex-Nazis in the DDR as well, and many of them must have been integrated into the East German system in some way. The East German security services also seem to have used knowledge of the Nazi past of individuals for blackmailing them into becoming informers.
    Regarding your previous post: Kurt Georg Kiesinger wasn't really a hardcore Nazi at all (though probably also not an opponent of the Nazi system as he sometimes claimed to have been)...in his case there really was somewhat of a campaign of vilification, with strong support by East Germany.

    Alright, thanks for your reply.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Che Guava says:
    @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Please make that "...she sure has a sepulchral face..."

    Don't quite comprehend the poetic paragraph at the end of your post. If the "bear places" are the Russian spheres of influence beyond Russia proper, and the "Japanese macaques" are the 5 Kuril Islands closest to Hokkaido, to what does finding "a stick for the macaques" refer to?

    We USA persons have much to learn of the subtle wisdom of the inscrutable East.

    You do misunderstand. By ‘bear place’, I mean places where there is a wild bear population in Japan. Where I was walking that day is one. Since I was alone on the walking track, I thought of it, and what to do if to encountering a bear.

    As for the macaques, they can be incredibly aggressive in places where stupid people feed them too much. On Yakushima, for example, one jumped onto the car, a couple of others followed, and tried to stop us. No injury on either side, but very aggro. from the macaques.

    Also, hiking tracks closer to Tokyo, sometimes a stick is needed.

    On the day I describe, the macaques just looked at me, saw that I was peaceful and probably had no food, and kept doing what they had been doing.

    I was not to making any geopolitical or racial allegories, just a description of a magical day to me.

    Although, I must adding, former P.M. Koizumi has a strong resemblance to macaque!

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Truth says:
    @Paul Yarbles
    I was just stating some reasons why I think Trump's tweets are effective. Do you have anything to say about this or do you just like typing about your intellectual and moral superiority?

    Mainstream media outlets such as CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc. have an agenda that I, because of my own views, find baneful. As you said they are biased in their reporting. Entirely dismissing them (by calling them fake news for example) is an effective way to weaken their influence. It is short hand for recognizing that they are not just giving you facts but are trying to sell you a story in a certain way so that their institutional views are promoted. You can still use them as a source, but no longer do you take what they say at face value.

    The days when large news organizations are respected is over. It's now a polemic free-for-all. Like you said, you get your news from different sources and go from there. But recognize that all the sources are unclean. This is not perfect (in fact I find it sad -- like when one of your heroes has some sordid secrets revealed) but much healthier than the make-believe world of unbiased reporting that we had.

    I was just stating some reasons why I think Trump’s tweets are effective.

    Yes, the esteemed most powerful man in the world acting like a 13- year old cheerleader experiencing her first period, on a daily basis; highly effective.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    The next time a 13 year old cheerleader at menarche induces the Republican and Democratic donor class to make a bonfire of their money and gets themselves elected President of the United States in the process, let me know.
    , @Paul Yarbles
    This is anti-womyn hate speech. Please recant.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Art Deco says:
    @Anon
    Dick Cheney was the first one who comes to mind. Maybe he's not the socon's socon, but he came out for gay marriage very early for a Republican, and I remember a lot of people saying "of course, his daughter, only natural." So where in the world is Mark Tushnet's natural paternal feeling?

    Cheney’s a Republican careerist. I think his wife is something of a SoCon, though more of the sort concerned with academic and intellectual life (see Roger Kimball). Not sure what she’s said on the issue. Mary Cheney crabbed at her older sister publicly because Elizabeth simply would not endorse the burlesque. (We’re I to spin the roulette wheel, my money would be on the proposition that the point of origin of Mary Cheney’s homosexuality was older daughter crowding out younger daughter in mama’s affections, and younger daughter bonding to papa instead).

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Art Deco says:
    @Truth


    I was just stating some reasons why I think Trump’s tweets are effective.
     

    Yes, the esteemed most powerful man in the world acting like a 13- year old cheerleader experiencing her first period, on a daily basis; highly effective.

    The next time a 13 year old cheerleader at menarche induces the Republican and Democratic donor class to make a bonfire of their money and gets themselves elected President of the United States in the process, let me know.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Truth


    I was just stating some reasons why I think Trump’s tweets are effective.
     

    Yes, the esteemed most powerful man in the world acting like a 13- year old cheerleader experiencing her first period, on a daily basis; highly effective.

    This is anti-womyn hate speech. Please recant.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Art Deco says:
    @Brett Stevens
    It is not "anti-white" to note that white people have not achieved unity because different white groups see themselves as distinct, and do not want to merge into generic white. Further, white diversity has been a disaster in the USA. As my own research reveals, Irish immigration shifted the country to the Left, culminating in JFK, who was our first diversity president:

    http://www.amerika.org/politics/did-irish-immigration-shift-america-to-the-left/

    Irish immigration shifted the country to the Left, culminating in JFK, who was our first diversity president:

    How would this have been manifest? If you were to pick historical movements with which latter-day leftists might indicate an affinity, they’d likely pick out abolitionism and it’s corollaries, early feminism, populism, various sorts of pre-1917 labor agitation, and the progressive persuasion. The labor agitation is the only one of these that might have drawn disproportionately from Irish Catholic immigrants &c, and that was the least successful of these movements. (The Knights of Labor was a fad movement which dissipated, the IWW was crushed, and the AFL did not come into its own until about 1935). Attributing changes in state-society relations after 1933 to Irish immigration streams is quite peculiar; there were so many other vectors at work.

    Irish political agitation was manifest not in ‘leftist’ movements but in crooked ward politics. The Kennedys are poseurs. Richard Daley and Louise Day Hicks were the emblematic Irish pols of the era.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Brett Stevens
    It was exactly those crooked ward politics that aided the Leftist takeover. Once corruption had a foot in the door, it was easy for the corrupt Left to follow in its footsteps, and this is why we had "conservative" politicians endorsing fundamentally Leftist ideas.

    Further, I'dpoint out that the reason the labor movement seemed to die out was that its reforms were adopted by government, which made it irrelevant. They won the long game of convincing the voters, or at least the politicians, and so cut themselves out of the process.

    The question is not so much the Irish per se, although they did tend toward Leftism especially in unions and social benefits, but that a mixed-white society is "diverse" just like a mixed-ethnic one is, only to a lesser degree. The same problems exist however.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Art Deco
    Irish immigration shifted the country to the Left, culminating in JFK, who was our first diversity president:

    How would this have been manifest? If you were to pick historical movements with which latter-day leftists might indicate an affinity, they'd likely pick out abolitionism and it's corollaries, early feminism, populism, various sorts of pre-1917 labor agitation, and the progressive persuasion. The labor agitation is the only one of these that might have drawn disproportionately from Irish Catholic immigrants &c, and that was the least successful of these movements. (The Knights of Labor was a fad movement which dissipated, the IWW was crushed, and the AFL did not come into its own until about 1935). Attributing changes in state-society relations after 1933 to Irish immigration streams is quite peculiar; there were so many other vectors at work.

    Irish political agitation was manifest not in 'leftist' movements but in crooked ward politics. The Kennedys are poseurs. Richard Daley and Louise Day Hicks were the emblematic Irish pols of the era.

    It was exactly those crooked ward politics that aided the Leftist takeover. Once corruption had a foot in the door, it was easy for the corrupt Left to follow in its footsteps, and this is why we had “conservative” politicians endorsing fundamentally Leftist ideas.

    Further, I’dpoint out that the reason the labor movement seemed to die out was that its reforms were adopted by government, which made it irrelevant. They won the long game of convincing the voters, or at least the politicians, and so cut themselves out of the process.

    The question is not so much the Irish per se, although they did tend toward Leftism especially in unions and social benefits, but that a mixed-white society is “diverse” just like a mixed-ethnic one is, only to a lesser degree. The same problems exist however.

    Read More
    • Replies: @annamaria
    "Once corruption had a foot in the door, it was easy for the corrupt Left to follow in its footsteps, and this is why we had “conservative” politicians endorsing fundamentally Leftist ideas." - Right on.
    The US-sponsored putsch in Ukraine has put to rest any misconceptions of Left-Right dichotomy in the US; the dichotomy does not exist. As for the irony of Israel-firsters cooperation with the neo-Nazis it deserves more attention. So much for Holocaust museums.
    "US support of violent neo-Nazis in Ukraine: Video Compilation" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-RyOaFwcEw
    , @Art Deco
    It was exactly those crooked ward politics that aided the Leftist takeover. Once corruption had a foot in the door, it was easy for the corrupt Left to follow in its footsteps, and this is why we had “conservative” politicians endorsing fundamentally Leftist ideas.

    Political corruption antedated Irish machines. The Sons of Tammany was founded by Aaron Burr.

    Irish machine politics dates from the 1860s. What there has been of a social democratic dispensation appeared 70 years later. The Depression was the most consequential vector. Machine politics at the time was running on a buffet of ethnics, not strictly Irish.


    Further, I’dpoint out that the reason the labor movement seemed to die out was that its reforms were adopted by government, which made it irrelevant. They won the long game of convincing the voters, or at least the politicians, and so cut themselves out of the process.

    The Knights of Labor evaporated nearly 50 years before the passage of the Wagner Act and the IWW, already mortally wounded, was suppressed during the Palmer raids in 1919. The New Deal was quite beneficial to the sort of 'business unionism' promoted by Samuel Gompers. Organized labor was at its peak in 1955, consequent to statutory legislation which simplified organizing.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Hibernian
    "And send the Irish back."

    Sorry, I refuse to cut myself into three parts and send 5/8 of myself to Ireland and 3/8 elsewhere.

    No reason not to repatriate to Ireland if you are 5/8 Irish.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Authenticjazzman
    " Irish immigration shifted the country to the left"

    Quite right and a strange lot indeed they are, as they worship BO to the same degree as the nutty Germans.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified uS Army vet and pro jazz musician.

    PS My father was born in Belfast.

    Quite right and a strange lot indeed they are, as they worship BO to the same degree as the nutty Germans.

    All of Europe is a bit infected now because the people are addicted to their social welfare programs. They know that when Leftism falls, all the free money goes away, and do not have the wit to realize that with taxes at a third of what they are now paying, they would have a lot more of their money to spend in the first place.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • annamaria says:
    @Brett Stevens
    It was exactly those crooked ward politics that aided the Leftist takeover. Once corruption had a foot in the door, it was easy for the corrupt Left to follow in its footsteps, and this is why we had "conservative" politicians endorsing fundamentally Leftist ideas.

    Further, I'dpoint out that the reason the labor movement seemed to die out was that its reforms were adopted by government, which made it irrelevant. They won the long game of convincing the voters, or at least the politicians, and so cut themselves out of the process.

    The question is not so much the Irish per se, although they did tend toward Leftism especially in unions and social benefits, but that a mixed-white society is "diverse" just like a mixed-ethnic one is, only to a lesser degree. The same problems exist however.

    “Once corruption had a foot in the door, it was easy for the corrupt Left to follow in its footsteps, and this is why we had “conservative” politicians endorsing fundamentally Leftist ideas.” – Right on.
    The US-sponsored putsch in Ukraine has put to rest any misconceptions of Left-Right dichotomy in the US; the dichotomy does not exist. As for the irony of Israel-firsters cooperation with the neo-Nazis it deserves more attention. So much for Holocaust museums.
    “US support of violent neo-Nazis in Ukraine: Video Compilation” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-RyOaFwcEw

    Read More
    • Replies: @Brett Stevens
    It seems to me that the same forces -- which I see as primarily driven by economics and public opinion -- have captured both parties.
    , @Art Deco
    The US-sponsored putsch i

    There was no putsch. V. Yanukovich resigned and left the country when the military would not fire on public demonstrators. His successor and his successor's successor took office per constitutional procedures. He was quite deft at two things: discrediting his political party in the eyes of the Ukrainian electorate and discrediting himself in the eyes of his own parliamentarians.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • anarchyst says:
    @Avery
    Agree.

    The MSM scum have had a free ride for decades.
    They are low-life parasites that contribute nothing to society, but reserve themselves the right to screw with our lives.

    They play dirty, but don't expect the targets of their scorn and bile to play dirty.
    Good for Trump.
    The clueless reptiles are confounded by Trump's unexpected sucker punches.
    Go Trump.

    Agree or disagree with Trump, but the self-important talking heads of MSM being cut down to size is the best entertainment of the year.
    Hopefully they will crash & burn and disappear from public life.

    The mainstream media has always been dishonest. From the “yellow journalism” of the late 1800s and early 1900s, journalism has shown its true (communistic) roots.
    From the lies about the Spanish-American war to the New York Times walter duranty hiding the truth about and denying the artificially created and forced communist “famine” in the Ukraine, to the lies about the 1968 Viet Nam communist Tet offensive (a military victory for the South and American troops) reported by walter cronkite as a military defeat, cronkite and his ilk were successful in prolonging the Viet Nam war for years, giving “aid and comfort” to the enemy, who bragged about being supported by the U S media.
    Look at NBCs doctoring of GMC truck gas tanks, rigging them to explode, and the deliberate mischaracterization of George Zimmerman’s conversation withe the 911 dispatcher, deleting a key phrase, as well as showing Trayvon Martin as a 12-year-old rather than his more recent “thug” facebook picture.
    The media has become a “fifth column” of the government and is not to be trusted.
    To our advantage, we now have the internet, which gives the ability for ordinary citizens to be real “journalists”, quite often getting and reporting the story TRUTHFULLY before the mainstream media.
    In fact, there are calls by “mainstream media” to “license” journalists, in an attempt to keep these “citizen journalists” out…twenty years ago, any journalist suggesting such a scheme would have been thrown out, but nowadays…

    Read More
    • Replies: @Brett Stevens


    The media has become a “fifth column” of the government and is not to be trusted.

     

    It seems to me they reflect what the buying public, en masse, want to think is true.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:
    @epochehusserl
    And you civil rights activists got too greedy with disparate impact.”
    We already covered this ground in a previous discussion. An important thing to note is that disparate impact is not, in and of itself, illegal.
    ------------------------------------
    You explained to me that bureaucrats have the right to impose quotas on private organizations through their own statutory interpretation of law in contradiction to democratically elected law. The CRA of 1964 explictly prohibits quotas and the eeoc routinely imposes quotas. No democratically elected law has ever condoned quotas. Bakke and Ricci prohibit quotas as well. They never had the votes for quotas. If they want quotas they should vote them in like every other federal imposition and not use bureaucrats to subvert democratically elected law. The fact that organizations that receive federal monies can impose different standards for people based upon ancestry (giving people points for their ethnicity on the SAT) would appear to be in violation of the 14th amendment as well.

    “You explained to me that bureaucrats have the right to impose quotas on private organizations through their own statutory interpretation of law in contradiction to democratically elected law.”

    Strawman. That is NOT my argument. Here is the thread that clearly outlines my thought process. Try to pay attention. I’m not going down your rabbit hole.

    https://www.unz.com/comments/isteve/vox-charles-murray-is-once-again-peddling-junk-science-about/

    Read More
    • Replies: @epochehusserl
    Other than getting angry at me you never resolved these issues. They have never been able to pass a law stating that racial quotas were a part of civil rights laws and yet zealous administrators have interpreted the laws to mean such. I am surprised you didn't call me racist.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • annamaria says:

    Three war criminals musing about jewish “political strength, military strength, but above all, a spiritual, intellectual strength.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDalsbO1EDw
    Only if the scoundrels had omitted mentioning the “spirituality,” which brings to mind the ziocons’ collaboration with ISIS (Middle East) and neo-Nazis (Ukraine) and the historical behavior of Israeli army in the Israel-colonized Gaza Ghetto.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html

    Read More
    • Replies: @anonymous
    annamaria, in future, please attach a warning when posting a vid w/ Hairy Henry Levi. Some of us have weak stomachs.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @annamaria
    "Once corruption had a foot in the door, it was easy for the corrupt Left to follow in its footsteps, and this is why we had “conservative” politicians endorsing fundamentally Leftist ideas." - Right on.
    The US-sponsored putsch in Ukraine has put to rest any misconceptions of Left-Right dichotomy in the US; the dichotomy does not exist. As for the irony of Israel-firsters cooperation with the neo-Nazis it deserves more attention. So much for Holocaust museums.
    "US support of violent neo-Nazis in Ukraine: Video Compilation" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-RyOaFwcEw

    It seems to me that the same forces — which I see as primarily driven by economics and public opinion — have captured both parties.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @anarchyst
    The mainstream media has always been dishonest. From the "yellow journalism" of the late 1800s and early 1900s, journalism has shown its true (communistic) roots.
    From the lies about the Spanish-American war to the New York Times walter duranty hiding the truth about and denying the artificially created and forced communist "famine" in the Ukraine, to the lies about the 1968 Viet Nam communist Tet offensive (a military victory for the South and American troops) reported by walter cronkite as a military defeat, cronkite and his ilk were successful in prolonging the Viet Nam war for years, giving "aid and comfort" to the enemy, who bragged about being supported by the U S media.
    Look at NBCs doctoring of GMC truck gas tanks, rigging them to explode, and the deliberate mischaracterization of George Zimmerman's conversation withe the 911 dispatcher, deleting a key phrase, as well as showing Trayvon Martin as a 12-year-old rather than his more recent "thug" facebook picture.
    The media has become a "fifth column" of the government and is not to be trusted.
    To our advantage, we now have the internet, which gives the ability for ordinary citizens to be real "journalists", quite often getting and reporting the story TRUTHFULLY before the mainstream media.
    In fact, there are calls by "mainstream media" to "license" journalists, in an attempt to keep these "citizen journalists" out...twenty years ago, any journalist suggesting such a scheme would have been thrown out, but nowadays...

    The media has become a “fifth column” of the government and is not to be trusted.

    It seems to me they reflect what the buying public, en masse, want to think is true.

    Read More
    • Replies: @anonymous

    It seems to me they reflect what the buying public, en masse, want to think is true.
     
    I reject that argument.
    Media has far more concentrated and broad power than the masses, who are, after all, atomized individuals.
    , @anarchyst
    Not entirely true...the "mainstream media" was "in the tank" for Hilary...but she lost due to public disaffection with the "status quo"...
    With the internet, the "mainstream media" has lost its control...THAT is why they criticize Trump for "tweeting". He is bypassing them completely, and they cannot stand it...
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • annamaria says:

    The neo-Nazis at Democratic National Committee:

    “Dmitri Alperovitch of Crowdstrike is not just a Russian born, anti-Putin expatriate living in the US, but he has connections with the Ukrainian nationalists that live in the US (these are people descended from the Ukrainian nazis that the US let in after WWII when the US govt rebranded the Bandera forces who fought in the Nazi army as “anti-communist freedom fighters”). Dmitri has close ties to the Chalupa sisters, one of whom was a major player in the Hillary campaign and brought him in to “investigate” the leak inside the DNC. The older sister is close to the Bandera movement inside the current Ukrainian government. These gals are not just descended from that big influx of Ukrainian Nazis that came in after WWII but are closely connected to Pravy Sektor today” (from comment section of http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/07/no-the-russians-did-not-meddle-in-our-election-by-publius-tacitus.html#comments)
    State Dept. collaborates with Ukrainian Neo-Nazis: “Democratization” and Antisemitism in Ukraine: When Neo-Nazi symbols become “The New Normal:” http://antisemitism.org.il/article/85651/“democratization”-and-antisemitism-ukraine-when-neo-nazi-symbols-become-“-new-normal”
    “Ukraine’s Inconvenient Neo-Nazis:” https://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/30/ukraines-inconvenient-neo-nazis/
    Chalupas sisters: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/01/crowdstrikes-russian-hacking-story-fell-apart-say-hello-fancy-bear-2.html
    “The Chalupas are not Democrat or Republican. They are OUNb. The OUNb worked hard to start a war between the USA and Russia for the last 50 years. … The OUNb have no concept of democratic values and want an authoritarian fascism.”

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/stepan-bandera-the-legacy-of-self-loathing-nazis-in-america/5424749

    Read More
    • Replies: @geokat62

    "Dmitri Alperovitch of Crowdstrike is not just a Russian born, anti-Putin expatriate living in the US, but he has connections with the Ukrainian nationalists that live in the US..."
     
    His connections may go further than that. A search of his surname yielded some interesting results:

    Most prevalent in: Israel
    Highest density in: Israel

    http://imgur.com/UUsRj1H
    http://imgur.com/SvdgYGd

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • geokat62 says:
    @annamaria
    The neo-Nazis at Democratic National Committee:

    "Dmitri Alperovitch of Crowdstrike is not just a Russian born, anti-Putin expatriate living in the US, but he has connections with the Ukrainian nationalists that live in the US (these are people descended from the Ukrainian nazis that the US let in after WWII when the US govt rebranded the Bandera forces who fought in the Nazi army as "anti-communist freedom fighters"). Dmitri has close ties to the Chalupa sisters, one of whom was a major player in the Hillary campaign and brought him in to "investigate" the leak inside the DNC. The older sister is close to the Bandera movement inside the current Ukrainian government. These gals are not just descended from that big influx of Ukrainian Nazis that came in after WWII but are closely connected to Pravy Sektor today" (from comment section of http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/07/no-the-russians-did-not-meddle-in-our-election-by-publius-tacitus.html#comments)
    State Dept. collaborates with Ukrainian Neo-Nazis: “Democratization” and Antisemitism in Ukraine: When Neo-Nazi symbols become “The New Normal:" http://antisemitism.org.il/article/85651/“democratization”-and-antisemitism-ukraine-when-neo-nazi-symbols-become-“-new-normal”
    "Ukraine’s Inconvenient Neo-Nazis:" https://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/30/ukraines-inconvenient-neo-nazis/
    Chalupas sisters: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/01/crowdstrikes-russian-hacking-story-fell-apart-say-hello-fancy-bear-2.html
    "The Chalupas are not Democrat or Republican. They are OUNb. The OUNb worked hard to start a war between the USA and Russia for the last 50 years. ... The OUNb have no concept of democratic values and want an authoritarian fascism."
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/stepan-bandera-the-legacy-of-self-loathing-nazis-in-america/5424749

    “Dmitri Alperovitch of Crowdstrike is not just a Russian born, anti-Putin expatriate living in the US, but he has connections with the Ukrainian nationalists that live in the US…”

    His connections may go further than that. A search of his surname yielded some interesting results:

    Most prevalent in: Israel
    Highest density in: Israel

    View post on imgur.com

    View post on imgur.com

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Art Deco says:
    @Brett Stevens
    It was exactly those crooked ward politics that aided the Leftist takeover. Once corruption had a foot in the door, it was easy for the corrupt Left to follow in its footsteps, and this is why we had "conservative" politicians endorsing fundamentally Leftist ideas.

    Further, I'dpoint out that the reason the labor movement seemed to die out was that its reforms were adopted by government, which made it irrelevant. They won the long game of convincing the voters, or at least the politicians, and so cut themselves out of the process.

    The question is not so much the Irish per se, although they did tend toward Leftism especially in unions and social benefits, but that a mixed-white society is "diverse" just like a mixed-ethnic one is, only to a lesser degree. The same problems exist however.

    It was exactly those crooked ward politics that aided the Leftist takeover. Once corruption had a foot in the door, it was easy for the corrupt Left to follow in its footsteps, and this is why we had “conservative” politicians endorsing fundamentally Leftist ideas.

    Political corruption antedated Irish machines. The Sons of Tammany was founded by Aaron Burr.

    Irish machine politics dates from the 1860s. What there has been of a social democratic dispensation appeared 70 years later. The Depression was the most consequential vector. Machine politics at the time was running on a buffet of ethnics, not strictly Irish.

    Further, I’dpoint out that the reason the labor movement seemed to die out was that its reforms were adopted by government, which made it irrelevant. They won the long game of convincing the voters, or at least the politicians, and so cut themselves out of the process.

    The Knights of Labor evaporated nearly 50 years before the passage of the Wagner Act and the IWW, already mortally wounded, was suppressed during the Palmer raids in 1919. The New Deal was quite beneficial to the sort of ‘business unionism’ promoted by Samuel Gompers. Organized labor was at its peak in 1955, consequent to statutory legislation which simplified organizing.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Brett Stevens
    White ethnic diversity accelerated machine politics to a point where it had never been before. The IWW lived on in other forms after 1919, and got a huge lift after the Great Depression; the 1930s were a time of great strength for the Socialist groups. At that point, laws were passed that benefitted labor, and these eventually made it irrelevant. Never forget the influence of John F. Kennedy as well.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Art Deco says:
    @annamaria
    "Once corruption had a foot in the door, it was easy for the corrupt Left to follow in its footsteps, and this is why we had “conservative” politicians endorsing fundamentally Leftist ideas." - Right on.
    The US-sponsored putsch in Ukraine has put to rest any misconceptions of Left-Right dichotomy in the US; the dichotomy does not exist. As for the irony of Israel-firsters cooperation with the neo-Nazis it deserves more attention. So much for Holocaust museums.
    "US support of violent neo-Nazis in Ukraine: Video Compilation" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-RyOaFwcEw

    The US-sponsored putsch i

    There was no putsch. V. Yanukovich resigned and left the country when the military would not fire on public demonstrators. His successor and his successor’s successor took office per constitutional procedures. He was quite deft at two things: discrediting his political party in the eyes of the Ukrainian electorate and discrediting himself in the eyes of his own parliamentarians.

    Read More
    • Replies: @annamaria
    "His successor and his successor’s successor took office per constitutional procedures"

    Why to feign innocence? Your outline is too perfect even for Nulandists-Kaganists.
    I sympathize with your disgust for Yanukovich, but do you really believe that Messieurs Poroshenko, Yatz, and Groysman are better? Here is a level of appreciation of Mr. Poroshenko: "Poroshenko's public approval rating is now 6.4% https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/10/14/how-corruption-corrodes-ukraines-economy/#74bf757f124e
    Perhaps this approval rating is a sign of Poroshenko "discrediting his political party in the eyes of the Ukrainian electorate and discrediting himself in the eyes of his own parliamentarians." - Do you believe that the rating is a signal for a next regime change?
    As for the US-sponsored putsch in Ukraine in 2014, only the most naive readers/listeners of MSM could believe in neocons' story of "constitutional procedures" in Ukraine in 2014. A much more reliable alternative media operates with facts:

    "Reality Peeks Through in Ukraine," by Parry: https://consortiumnews.com/2016/01/06/reality-peeks-through-in-ukraine/
    "Nearly two years since U.S. officials helped foment a coup in Ukraine, partly justified by corruption allegations, the country continues to wallow in graft and cronyism as the living standards for average Ukrainians plummet, according to economic data and polls of public attitudes. Even the neocon-oriented Wall Street Journal took note of the worsening corruption in a Jan. 1, 2016 article observing that “most Ukrainians say the revolution’s promise to replace rule by thieves with the rule of law has fallen short..."

    "A Documentary You’ll Likely Never See" by By James DiEugenio:
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/13/a-documentary-youll-likely-never-see/
    "Another follower of Bandera is Dymytro Yarosh, who reputedly leads the paramilitary arm of an even more powerful political organization in Ukraine called Right Sektor. Yarosh once said he controls a paramilitary force of about 7,000 men who were reportedly used in both the overthrow of Yanukovych in Kiev in February 2014 and the suppression of the rebellion in Odessa a few months later, which are both fully depicted in the film."

    "Nato's action plan in Ukraine is right out of Dr. Strangelove," by John Pilger: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/17/nato-ukraine-dr-strangelove-china-us "Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US has ringed Russia with military bases, nuclear warplanes and missiles as part of its Nato enlargement project"

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @annamaria
    Three war criminals musing about jewish "political strength, military strength, but above all, a spiritual, intellectual strength.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDalsbO1EDw
    Only if the scoundrels had omitted mentioning the "spirituality," which brings to mind the ziocons' collaboration with ISIS (Middle East) and neo-Nazis (Ukraine) and the historical behavior of Israeli army in the Israel-colonized Gaza Ghetto.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554
    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/15/world/middleeast/israelis-watch-bombs-drop-on-gaza-from-front-row-seats.html

    annamaria, in future, please attach a warning when posting a vid w/ Hairy Henry Levi. Some of us have weak stomachs.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Brett Stevens


    The media has become a “fifth column” of the government and is not to be trusted.

     

    It seems to me they reflect what the buying public, en masse, want to think is true.

    It seems to me they reflect what the buying public, en masse, want to think is true.

    I reject that argument.
    Media has far more concentrated and broad power than the masses, who are, after all, atomized individuals.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Art Deco
    It was exactly those crooked ward politics that aided the Leftist takeover. Once corruption had a foot in the door, it was easy for the corrupt Left to follow in its footsteps, and this is why we had “conservative” politicians endorsing fundamentally Leftist ideas.

    Political corruption antedated Irish machines. The Sons of Tammany was founded by Aaron Burr.

    Irish machine politics dates from the 1860s. What there has been of a social democratic dispensation appeared 70 years later. The Depression was the most consequential vector. Machine politics at the time was running on a buffet of ethnics, not strictly Irish.


    Further, I’dpoint out that the reason the labor movement seemed to die out was that its reforms were adopted by government, which made it irrelevant. They won the long game of convincing the voters, or at least the politicians, and so cut themselves out of the process.

    The Knights of Labor evaporated nearly 50 years before the passage of the Wagner Act and the IWW, already mortally wounded, was suppressed during the Palmer raids in 1919. The New Deal was quite beneficial to the sort of 'business unionism' promoted by Samuel Gompers. Organized labor was at its peak in 1955, consequent to statutory legislation which simplified organizing.

    White ethnic diversity accelerated machine politics to a point where it had never been before. The IWW lived on in other forms after 1919, and got a huge lift after the Great Depression; the 1930s were a time of great strength for the Socialist groups. At that point, laws were passed that benefitted labor, and these eventually made it irrelevant. Never forget the influence of John F. Kennedy as well.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "White ethnic diversity accelerated machine politics to a point where it had never been before."

    No. Avarice and power were the primary factors here that enabled Martin Van Buren's vision to come to fruition.
    , @Art Deco
    The IWW lived on in other forms after 1919, a

    Only in your imagination. Samuel Gompers organized craft unions with circumscribed goals. J.L. Lewis organized industrial unions with circumscribed goals. Neither had much in common with the anarcho-syndicalists in the IWW.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Yep, 2017 was supposed to be the year of grand Marxist revisionism with gun confiscation (Hillary refused to acknowledge the 2nd amendment), more agitprop against the ‘majority’ (‘oppressors’ like white, Christian, straight males who created this nation) like the Hutus did to the Tutsis in Rawanda, and, who knows, those citizens lucky enough to be placed on whatever lists the intensive NSA spying (thanks for telling us this, Edward Snowden) of all citizens resulted in recieving knocks on their doors in the middle of the night. Perhaps Hillary Clinton would have found use for the 1.5 billions rounds of ammo Obama purchased for domestic policing forces. Everything George Soros dreamed of since his imfamous 1979 Newsweek interview (ie – the destruction of America) would be proceeding apace.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • annamaria says:
    @Art Deco
    The US-sponsored putsch i

    There was no putsch. V. Yanukovich resigned and left the country when the military would not fire on public demonstrators. His successor and his successor's successor took office per constitutional procedures. He was quite deft at two things: discrediting his political party in the eyes of the Ukrainian electorate and discrediting himself in the eyes of his own parliamentarians.

    “His successor and his successor’s successor took office per constitutional procedures”

    Why to feign innocence? Your outline is too perfect even for Nulandists-Kaganists.
    I sympathize with your disgust for Yanukovich, but do you really believe that Messieurs Poroshenko, Yatz, and Groysman are better? Here is a level of appreciation of Mr. Poroshenko: “Poroshenko’s public approval rating is now 6.4% https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/10/14/how-corruption-corrodes-ukraines-economy/#74bf757f124e
    Perhaps this approval rating is a sign of Poroshenko “discrediting his political party in the eyes of the Ukrainian electorate and discrediting himself in the eyes of his own parliamentarians.” – Do you believe that the rating is a signal for a next regime change?
    As for the US-sponsored putsch in Ukraine in 2014, only the most naive readers/listeners of MSM could believe in neocons’ story of “constitutional procedures” in Ukraine in 2014. A much more reliable alternative media operates with facts:

    “Reality Peeks Through in Ukraine,” by Parry: https://consortiumnews.com/2016/01/06/reality-peeks-through-in-ukraine/
    “Nearly two years since U.S. officials helped foment a coup in Ukraine, partly justified by corruption allegations, the country continues to wallow in graft and cronyism as the living standards for average Ukrainians plummet, according to economic data and polls of public attitudes. Even the neocon-oriented Wall Street Journal took note of the worsening corruption in a Jan. 1, 2016 article observing that “most Ukrainians say the revolution’s promise to replace rule by thieves with the rule of law has fallen short…”

    “A Documentary You’ll Likely Never See” by By James DiEugenio:

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/13/a-documentary-youll-likely-never-see/

    “Another follower of Bandera is Dymytro Yarosh, who reputedly leads the paramilitary arm of an even more powerful political organization in Ukraine called Right Sektor. Yarosh once said he controls a paramilitary force of about 7,000 men who were reportedly used in both the overthrow of Yanukovych in Kiev in February 2014 and the suppression of the rebellion in Odessa a few months later, which are both fully depicted in the film.”

    “Nato’s action plan in Ukraine is right out of Dr. Strangelove,” by John Pilger: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/17/nato-ukraine-dr-strangelove-china-us “Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US has ringed Russia with military bases, nuclear warplanes and missiles as part of its Nato enlargement project”

    Read More
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    annamaria, if you wish to pleasure yourself with your own fantasies or John Pilger's, that's fine. There's another person on this thread peddling the idea that sneaky Jews fabricated the holocaust and another fellow who fancies Frank Marshall Davis is Barack Obama's father. I do wish you'd all quit making a pest of yourself to others with these fictions.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • anarchyst says:
    @Brett Stevens


    The media has become a “fifth column” of the government and is not to be trusted.

     

    It seems to me they reflect what the buying public, en masse, want to think is true.

    Not entirely true…the “mainstream media” was “in the tank” for Hilary…but she lost due to public disaffection with the “status quo”…
    With the internet, the “mainstream media” has lost its control…THAT is why they criticize Trump for “tweeting”. He is bypassing them completely, and they cannot stand it…

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • It’s stupid to think that you’ve ever “won” a culture war. But remember that spouting racist nonsense got this dipshit Derbyshire fired from the National Fucking Review. Liberals didn’t even have to lift a finger.

    That’s gonna keep happening. Your kind just aren’t wanted. Sorry.

    Read More
    • Replies: @ANON

    But remember that spouting racist nonsense got this dipshit Derbyshire fired from the National Fucking Review. Liberals didn’t even have to lift a finger.

    That’s gonna keep happening. Your kind just aren’t wanted.
     
    (((Billyboy Kristol))) no likee Derb.

    Oh noes!
    Say it ain't so!
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • annamaria says:

    Putin is no the forked-tongue Obama: http://thesaker.is/president-putin-holds-press-conference-at-g20-in-hamburg/ “President of Russia Vladimir Putin answered journalists’ questions on the results of the two-day G20 Summit.” July 8, 2017

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Corporal Clegg
    It's stupid to think that you've ever "won" a culture war. But remember that spouting racist nonsense got this dipshit Derbyshire fired from the National Fucking Review. Liberals didn't even have to lift a finger.

    That's gonna keep happening. Your kind just aren't wanted. Sorry.

    But remember that spouting racist nonsense got this dipshit Derbyshire fired from the National Fucking Review. Liberals didn’t even have to lift a finger.

    That’s gonna keep happening. Your kind just aren’t wanted.

    (((Billyboy Kristol))) no likee Derb.

    Oh noes!
    Say it ain’t so!

    Read More
    • Replies: @Corporal Clegg
    This chemtrail's for you
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Corvinus
    "You explained to me that bureaucrats have the right to impose quotas on private organizations through their own statutory interpretation of law in contradiction to democratically elected law."

    Strawman. That is NOT my argument. Here is the thread that clearly outlines my thought process. Try to pay attention. I'm not going down your rabbit hole.

    https://www.unz.com/comments/isteve/vox-charles-murray-is-once-again-peddling-junk-science-about/

    Other than getting angry at me you never resolved these issues. They have never been able to pass a law stating that racial quotas were a part of civil rights laws and yet zealous administrators have interpreted the laws to mean such. I am surprised you didn’t call me racist.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Other than getting angry at me you never resolved these issues."

    I didn't realize that setting the record straight using dialectic was "getting angry".

    "They have never been able to pass a law stating that racial quotas were a part of civil rights laws and yet zealous administrators have interpreted the laws to mean such."

    Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    "I am surprised you didn’t call me racist."

    "Racism" and "sexism" are now buzzwords. Labeling you in that fashion when I truly do not know you would be foolhardy.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @ANON

    But remember that spouting racist nonsense got this dipshit Derbyshire fired from the National Fucking Review. Liberals didn’t even have to lift a finger.

    That’s gonna keep happening. Your kind just aren’t wanted.
     
    (((Billyboy Kristol))) no likee Derb.

    Oh noes!
    Say it ain't so!

    This chemtrail’s for you

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:
    @Brett Stevens
    White ethnic diversity accelerated machine politics to a point where it had never been before. The IWW lived on in other forms after 1919, and got a huge lift after the Great Depression; the 1930s were a time of great strength for the Socialist groups. At that point, laws were passed that benefitted labor, and these eventually made it irrelevant. Never forget the influence of John F. Kennedy as well.

    “White ethnic diversity accelerated machine politics to a point where it had never been before.”

    No. Avarice and power were the primary factors here that enabled Martin Van Buren’s vision to come to fruition.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:
    @epochehusserl
    Other than getting angry at me you never resolved these issues. They have never been able to pass a law stating that racial quotas were a part of civil rights laws and yet zealous administrators have interpreted the laws to mean such. I am surprised you didn't call me racist.

    “Other than getting angry at me you never resolved these issues.”

    I didn’t realize that setting the record straight using dialectic was “getting angry”.

    “They have never been able to pass a law stating that racial quotas were a part of civil rights laws and yet zealous administrators have interpreted the laws to mean such.”

    Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    “I am surprised you didn’t call me racist.”

    “Racism” and “sexism” are now buzzwords. Labeling you in that fashion when I truly do not know you would be foolhardy.

    Read More
    • Replies: @epochehusserl
    Title 7 section 703 j explicitly prohibits quotas Corvinus. Tell me what legislation or body of work contradicts what MLK himself helped pass:

    "Nothing contained in this title shall be interpreted to require any employer, employment agency, labor organization, or joint labor-management committee subject to this title to grant preferential treatment to any individual or to any group because of the race, color, religion, sex, or national origin of such individual or group on account of an imbalance which may exist with respect to the total number or percentage of persons of any race, color, religion, sex, or national origin employed by any employer, referred or classified for employment by any employment agency or labor organization, admitted to membership or classified by any labor organization, or admitted to, or employed in, any apprenticeship or other training program, in comparison with the total number or percentage of persons of such race, color, religion, sex, or national origin in any community, State, section, or other area, or in the available work force in any community, State, section, or other area."

    I will repeat the relevant portions of the legislation:

    "in comparison with the total number or percentage of persons of such race, color, religion, sex, or national origin in any community, State, section, or other area, or in the available work force in any community, State, section, or other area."

    Quotas were never democratically elected or allowed by the Supreme Court. Show me where these portions were repealed please.
    , @Paul Yarbles
    You have a habit of not answering questions put to you. But I'll answer your questions and comment on your comments anyway.

    Would you be saying the same thing if a Democrat/liberal was responding in a similar boorish manner? Then again, that is what our political leaders, left and right, have become.
     
    No, I am not in the habit of supporting people whose positions I consider harmful.

    As does Fox News and alternative media sites.
     
    Agree and disagree. All media sites have an agenda. I say that later on. But I am more aligned politically with Fox News than with CNN et. al., so I don't find their position harmful.

    It is other than effective. It demonstrates a person’s intellectual laziness. There may be considerable factual evidence that he or she merely discounts because they heard it from CNN/MSNBC/NYT, which results in an ill-informed, easily manipulated citizenry.
     
    You're mixing up effectiveness with other things here.

    Except those who screech “Fake News” are NOT using them as a source and NOT investigating further what is the take or angle of the story.
     
    You're painting with too broad a brush here. But I agree that many act as you say.

    Alternative Media organizations are no different. They also craft there own “truths”.
     
    You're agreeing with me here.

    Exactly. That is why this “Fake New” meme is utterly meaningless.
     
    It is not meaningless. It works as a way to destroy the special nature of "mainstream" media outlets such as CNN.

    People even in the 1960′s realized that, say Walter Kronkite, had their “biases”.
     
    Yes, but he still was put on a pedestal. The pedestal now no longer exists.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:
    @Paul Yarbles
    I was just stating some reasons why I think Trump's tweets are effective. Do you have anything to say about this or do you just like typing about your intellectual and moral superiority?

    Mainstream media outlets such as CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc. have an agenda that I, because of my own views, find baneful. As you said they are biased in their reporting. Entirely dismissing them (by calling them fake news for example) is an effective way to weaken their influence. It is short hand for recognizing that they are not just giving you facts but are trying to sell you a story in a certain way so that their institutional views are promoted. You can still use them as a source, but no longer do you take what they say at face value.

    The days when large news organizations are respected is over. It's now a polemic free-for-all. Like you said, you get your news from different sources and go from there. But recognize that all the sources are unclean. This is not perfect (in fact I find it sad -- like when one of your heroes has some sordid secrets revealed) but much healthier than the make-believe world of unbiased reporting that we had.

    “I was just stating some reasons why I think Trump’s tweets are effective. Do you have anything to say about this or do you just like typing about your intellectual and moral superiority?”

    Would you be saying the same thing if a Democrat/liberal was responding in a similar boorish manner? Then again, that is what our political leaders, left and right, have become.

    “Mainstream media outlets such as CNN, MSNBC, NYT, etc. have an agenda that I, because of my own views, find baneful.”

    As does Fox News and alternative media sites.

    “Entirely dismissing them (by calling them fake news for example) is an effective way to weaken their influence.”

    It is other than effective. It demonstrates a person’s intellectual laziness. There may be considerable factual evidence that he or she merely discounts because they heard it from CNN/MSNBC/NYT, which results in an ill-informed, easily manipulated citizenry.

    “It is short hand for recognizing that they are not just giving you facts but are trying to sell you a story in a certain way so that their institutional views are promoted. You can still use them as a source, but no longer do you take what they say at face value.”

    Except those who screech “Fake News” are NOT using them as a source and NOT investigating further what is the take or angle of the story.

    “The days when large news organizations are respected is over. It’s now a polemic free-for-all.”

    Alternative Media organizations are no different. They also craft there own “truths”.

    “Like you said, you get your news from different sources and go from there. But recognize that all the sources are unclean.”

    Exactly. That is why this “Fake New” meme is utterly meaningless.

    “This is not perfect (in fact I find it sad — like when one of your heroes has some sordid secrets revealed) but much healthier than the make-believe world of unbiased reporting that we had.”

    People even in the 1960′s realized that, say Walter Kronkite, had their “biases”.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Corvinus
    "Other than getting angry at me you never resolved these issues."

    I didn't realize that setting the record straight using dialectic was "getting angry".

    "They have never been able to pass a law stating that racial quotas were a part of civil rights laws and yet zealous administrators have interpreted the laws to mean such."

    Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    "I am surprised you didn’t call me racist."

    "Racism" and "sexism" are now buzzwords. Labeling you in that fashion when I truly do not know you would be foolhardy.

    Title 7 section 703 j explicitly prohibits quotas Corvinus. Tell me what legislation or body of work contradicts what MLK himself helped pass:

    “Nothing contained in this title shall be interpreted to require any employer, employment agency, labor organization, or joint labor-management committee subject to this title to grant preferential treatment to any individual or to any group because of the race, color, religion, sex, or national origin of such individual or group on account of an imbalance which may exist with respect to the total number or percentage of persons of any race, color, religion, sex, or national origin employed by any employer, referred or classified for employment by any employment agency or labor organization, admitted to membership or classified by any labor organization, or admitted to, or employed in, any apprenticeship or other training program, in comparison with the total number or percentage of persons of such race, color, religion, sex, or national origin in any community, State, section, or other area, or in the available work force in any community, State, section, or other area.”

    I will repeat the relevant portions of the legislation:

    “in comparison with the total number or percentage of persons of such race, color, religion, sex, or national origin in any community, State, section, or other area, or in the available work force in any community, State, section, or other area.”

    Quotas were never democratically elected or allowed by the Supreme Court. Show me where these portions were repealed please.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    You haven't been paying close attention. The citation only states "preferential treatment", NOT quotas. One could reasonably assume that preferential treatment could lead to racial quotas, but the Supreme Court in the Bakke case made racial quotas unconstitutional. Furthermore, the Supreme Court upheld Michigan’s voter-approved law that banned the use of racial criteria in college admissions and found in favor of white firefighters who challenged racial quotas in Ricci v. DeStefano.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Dr. X says:
    @anarchyst
    Questions for holocaust™ promoters and supporters:
    1. Why build camps with facilities suitable for long-term occupation if the only "purpose" of these camps is extermination?
    2. Why build camps with dining facilities, theaters, swimming pools and other recreational facilities, if the only purpose of these camps was for extermination?
    3. Why transport supposed genocide victims hundreds if not thousands of miles to these camps? The cost of transportation would have been tremendous.
    If the desired result is extermination, why expend massive energy expenditures to transport the supposed genocide victims to these camps?
    4. How were the so-called "gas chambers" used, with engineering errors, such as disconnected chimneys, the absence of "gas tight" doors, doors that open in the wrong direction, and no protection for the "operators" of these facilities?
    5. How does one square the "six million" claim with the fact that there were hundreds of thousands MORE Jews in Europe immediately after the end of WW2?
    6. How can holocaust™ promoters claim that the German crematoria system was able to process thousands of bodies per day when it takes HOURS to process one body? In reality, it would have taken much more time, into the 1950's to process the numbers...of individuals that they claim were cremated.
    7. Why criminalize honest investigation into the holocaust™, "using kangaroo courts" to prosecute those who perform honest investigation into this "event" while disallowing TRUTH to be presented into evidence--evidence that runs counter to "official holocaust™ orthodoxy", while disallowing challenges of questionable and outlandish claims by so-called holocaust™ "survivors"?
    8. Where is the evidence that there was a "master plan" for extermination? Even holocaust™ promoters admit that no such documents ever existed, even making the claim that over 90% of what they state as TRUTH cannot be proven--only the (questionable) "testimony" of holocaust™ "survivors", most of who never saw the inside of a camp. However, when it comes to prosecution of holocaust "deniers", the hearsay and fabrications of holocaust™ promoters are taken as TRUTH while those on trial are not permitted to enter their REAL evidence into the court records. WHY?
    Conclusion: The holocaust™ is one of the greatest SCAMS inflicted on Germany and the world. It is long overdue to expose the lies and fabrications and put this (non)event into the "trashbin of history"...

    As to Points 1-4: The concentration camps were originally set up as labor camps for political prisoners, not extermination camps. These of course included many Jewish communists. However, there were relatively few Jews in Germany. After Germany conquered Poland and invaded the USSR, they had many more Jews on their hands in occupied territories in a war zone. That’s where most of the camps were located. Auschwitz, for instance, is in Poland.

    According to Ian Kershaw’s history, the extermination sort of evolved (my word, not his) after Germany lost at Stalingrad and began to lose the Eastern Front. Prior to that, they had no fixed plan for the Jews other than to drive them out after they defeated Russia. When that didn’t happen they had to come up with a “Final Solution.” Actual death camps, as opposed to labor camps, were all in occupied Poland where average Germans wouldn’t know about them.

    As far as the “gas chambers” are concerned there are indeed many questions. However, einsatzgruppen did come up with improvised gassing methods by locking Jews into trucks and piping carbon monoxide diesel fumes in.

    There are many questions about the Holocaust, and doubtless Jews exaggerated and possibly fabricated many claims, but there really isn’t any doubt that large numbers of civilian Jews in the East were dealt with harshly and extrajudicially.

    Read More
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    There are NO documents planning a "final solution". Even the holocaust™ promoters admit that there is not one document that advances or supports the extermination of jews.
    The clever zionists marginalized their own kind with books such as "Germany Must Perish" and "world jewry's declaration of (economic) "war" on Germany in 1933. You see, zionists were successful in making life miserable for German jews, thereby accelerating their plans for populating Palestine and getting (the future state of) Israel off the ground...
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Coemgen says:
    @Brett Stevens
    If affirmative action ends, the other body of anti-discrimination law will be open to attack, and if that goes, so will diversity.

    That would be glorious.

    The fashwave that is sweeping the West is in response to the general failures of liberal democracy, but it needs to start by taking out the Left's most potent weapon against us, namely genetic eradication through outbreeding.

    And send the Irish back.

    And send the Irish back

    I’ll take my forty acres and mule somewhere on the Dingle Peninsula. Thank you.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • anarchyst says:
    @Dr. X
    As to Points 1-4: The concentration camps were originally set up as labor camps for political prisoners, not extermination camps. These of course included many Jewish communists. However, there were relatively few Jews in Germany. After Germany conquered Poland and invaded the USSR, they had many more Jews on their hands in occupied territories in a war zone. That's where most of the camps were located. Auschwitz, for instance, is in Poland.

    According to Ian Kershaw's history, the extermination sort of evolved (my word, not his) after Germany lost at Stalingrad and began to lose the Eastern Front. Prior to that, they had no fixed plan for the Jews other than to drive them out after they defeated Russia. When that didn't happen they had to come up with a "Final Solution." Actual death camps, as opposed to labor camps, were all in occupied Poland where average Germans wouldn't know about them.

    As far as the "gas chambers" are concerned there are indeed many questions. However, einsatzgruppen did come up with improvised gassing methods by locking Jews into trucks and piping carbon monoxide diesel fumes in.

    There are many questions about the Holocaust, and doubtless Jews exaggerated and possibly fabricated many claims, but there really isn't any doubt that large numbers of civilian Jews in the East were dealt with harshly and extrajudicially.

    There are NO documents planning a “final solution”. Even the holocaust™ promoters admit that there is not one document that advances or supports the extermination of jews.
    The clever zionists marginalized their own kind with books such as “Germany Must Perish” and “world jewry’s declaration of (economic) “war” on Germany in 1933. You see, zionists were successful in making life miserable for German jews, thereby accelerating their plans for populating Palestine and getting (the future state of) Israel off the ground…

    Read More
    • Replies: @Dr. X

    There are NO documents planning a “final solution”.
     
    Correct. However, units in the war zone were given a free hand to figure something out with a wink and a nod.

    I have not doubt that the Jews have used the Holocaust for political purposes and have controlled the narrative about it to their advantage. But there's also no doubt that a lot of Jewish detainees in the hands of Germany met rather unpleasant fates, from starvation to getting shot to typhus to getting worked to death. Did some get gassed? Probably. After all the NSDAP had a euthanasia program for German people considered defective. But however many Jews might've been gassed, it wasn't six million.
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • @Corvinus
    "Other than getting angry at me you never resolved these issues."

    I didn't realize that setting the record straight using dialectic was "getting angry".

    "They have never been able to pass a law stating that racial quotas were a part of civil rights laws and yet zealous administrators have interpreted the laws to mean such."

    Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    "I am surprised you didn’t call me racist."

    "Racism" and "sexism" are now buzzwords. Labeling you in that fashion when I truly do not know you would be foolhardy.

    You have a habit of not answering questions put to you. But I’ll answer your questions and comment on your comments anyway.

    Would you be saying the same thing if a Democrat/liberal was responding in a similar boorish manner? Then again, that is what our political leaders, left and right, have become.

    No, I am not in the habit of supporting people whose positions I consider harmful.

    As does Fox News and alternative media sites.

    Agree and disagree. All media sites have an agenda. I say that later on. But I am more aligned politically with Fox News than with CNN et. al., so I don’t find their position harmful.

    It is other than effective. It demonstrates a person’s intellectual laziness. There may be considerable factual evidence that he or she merely discounts because they heard it from CNN/MSNBC/NYT, which results in an ill-informed, easily manipulated citizenry.

    You’re mixing up effectiveness with other things here.

    Except those who screech “Fake News” are NOT using them as a source and NOT investigating further what is the take or angle of the story.

    You’re painting with too broad a brush here. But I agree that many act as you say.

    Alternative Media organizations are no different. They also craft there own “truths”.

    You’re agreeing with me here.

    Exactly. That is why this “Fake New” meme is utterly meaningless.

    It is not meaningless. It works as a way to destroy the special nature of “mainstream” media outlets such as CNN.

    People even in the 1960′s realized that, say Walter Kronkite, had their “biases”.

    Yes, but he still was put on a pedestal. The pedestal now no longer exists.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:

    “You have a habit of not answering questions put to you.”

    That would be Fake News on your part. :)

    “No, I am not in the habit of supporting people whose positions I consider harmful.”

    Let me rephrase. Those individuals who repeatedly use the Fake News meme as a default, how is their position other than harmful? When I refer to “default”, I mean that people begin to read a NYT article, and automatically declare it as “Fake News” without undergoing a vetting process. Would you agree or disagree that the stance they take is other than harmful? Why?

    “You’re mixing up effectiveness with other things here.”

    No, I am not. It is easy for people to merely use a meme and go on with their lives rather than conduct an investigation as to how and why a source is biased/unbiased, factual/lacking in facts, etc. Exactly why the meme lacks effectiveness in stimulating substantial discourse. Memes are nothing more than distractors. Look, squirrel!

    “It works as a way to destroy the special nature of “mainstream” media outlets such as CNN.”

    Who says that mainstream media is of a “special nature”? I would venture to say that many people even during the times of Kronkite stated that the media was other than special.

    “Yes, but he still was put on a pedestal. The pedestal now no longer exists.”

    Put on a pedestal because he would only comment on matters he found important at the END of his broadcast. When it came to reporting stories, he had an opinion. People understood what was his agenda and his stance. It is different today because at least he was willing to investigate alternative points of view. The extreme left and right both are equal to the task of solipsism and confirmation bias. It is the moderates who are derided for their compromise streak, those who work toward trying to minimize their own prejudices, as challenging as it is.

    Read More
    • Replies: @geokat62

    When I refer to “default”, I mean that people begin to read a NYT article, and automatically declare it as “Fake News” without undergoing a vetting process.
     
    You mean like the front page stories by Judith Miller claiming Saddam was hiding WMD in the basement of one of his palaces? Are you suggesting an elaborate vetting process was required to determine that these kinds of stories were total BS?

    Listen, things have deteriorated to such a point that, sadly, it should now become the default position for every rational person to assume that the LOW (Lugenpresse of Weimerica) is spouting lies, rather than telling truths.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • annamaria says:

    http://www.moonofalabama.org

    “The people of Iraq have won the biggest battle in the very bloody fight against the nihilists of the Islamic State: My congratulations to the Iraqi men and women who achieved this.
    The pest shall come down on those Gulf dictators who financed the growth of the sectarian “Sunni resistance” in Iraq and Syria. The Obama administration, which intentionally let ISIS grow for its own perfidious aims, the Turkish wannabe Sultan who pampered it and the “journalists” and “experts” who hailed ISIS and alike criminals along shall join them in hell.” – Right on.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • Art Deco says:
    @Brett Stevens
    White ethnic diversity accelerated machine politics to a point where it had never been before. The IWW lived on in other forms after 1919, and got a huge lift after the Great Depression; the 1930s were a time of great strength for the Socialist groups. At that point, laws were passed that benefitted labor, and these eventually made it irrelevant. Never forget the influence of John F. Kennedy as well.

    The IWW lived on in other forms after 1919, a

    Only in your imagination. Samuel Gompers organized craft unions with circumscribed goals. J.L. Lewis organized industrial unions with circumscribed goals. Neither had much in common with the anarcho-syndicalists in the IWW.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Art Deco says:
    @annamaria
    "His successor and his successor’s successor took office per constitutional procedures"

    Why to feign innocence? Your outline is too perfect even for Nulandists-Kaganists.
    I sympathize with your disgust for Yanukovich, but do you really believe that Messieurs Poroshenko, Yatz, and Groysman are better? Here is a level of appreciation of Mr. Poroshenko: "Poroshenko's public approval rating is now 6.4% https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/10/14/how-corruption-corrodes-ukraines-economy/#74bf757f124e
    Perhaps this approval rating is a sign of Poroshenko "discrediting his political party in the eyes of the Ukrainian electorate and discrediting himself in the eyes of his own parliamentarians." - Do you believe that the rating is a signal for a next regime change?
    As for the US-sponsored putsch in Ukraine in 2014, only the most naive readers/listeners of MSM could believe in neocons' story of "constitutional procedures" in Ukraine in 2014. A much more reliable alternative media operates with facts:

    "Reality Peeks Through in Ukraine," by Parry: https://consortiumnews.com/2016/01/06/reality-peeks-through-in-ukraine/
    "Nearly two years since U.S. officials helped foment a coup in Ukraine, partly justified by corruption allegations, the country continues to wallow in graft and cronyism as the living standards for average Ukrainians plummet, according to economic data and polls of public attitudes. Even the neocon-oriented Wall Street Journal took note of the worsening corruption in a Jan. 1, 2016 article observing that “most Ukrainians say the revolution’s promise to replace rule by thieves with the rule of law has fallen short..."

    "A Documentary You’ll Likely Never See" by By James DiEugenio:
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/13/a-documentary-youll-likely-never-see/
    "Another follower of Bandera is Dymytro Yarosh, who reputedly leads the paramilitary arm of an even more powerful political organization in Ukraine called Right Sektor. Yarosh once said he controls a paramilitary force of about 7,000 men who were reportedly used in both the overthrow of Yanukovych in Kiev in February 2014 and the suppression of the rebellion in Odessa a few months later, which are both fully depicted in the film."

    "Nato's action plan in Ukraine is right out of Dr. Strangelove," by John Pilger: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/17/nato-ukraine-dr-strangelove-china-us "Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US has ringed Russia with military bases, nuclear warplanes and missiles as part of its Nato enlargement project"

    annamaria, if you wish to pleasure yourself with your own fantasies or John Pilger’s, that’s fine. There’s another person on this thread peddling the idea that sneaky Jews fabricated the holocaust and another fellow who fancies Frank Marshall Davis is Barack Obama’s father. I do wish you’d all quit making a pest of yourself to others with these fictions.

    Read More
    • Replies: @annamaria
    "...your own fantasies or John Pilger’s..."

    John Pilger, Assange, Snowden, Paul Craig Roberts, Philip Giraldi and others of the same caliber are men of virtue: they are intelligent, principled, and very courageous. They are non-conformists with a strong sense of social responsibility - they are great men of our times. It is not new when less endowed personalities develop an intense dislike of great people.

    Was it you who have been denouncing holocaust or writing about Davis? No? - Neither me. Then why are you making a pest of yourself by spreading the insinuations?

    Do my posts criticize ziocon policies? - Yes. In this respect I am in complete agreement with the above mentioned great men. The post that you have responded to was about the amorality of US involvement in the neo-Nazi adventure in Ukraine. Is not Mrs. Nuland Jewish? What about the Kagans' clan? It seems that you feel irritated and aggravated because the facts have anti-ziocon bias. Here is a quote from Pilger' article: "Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US has ringed Russia with military bases, nuclear warplanes and missiles as part of its Nato enlargement project.” - What's wrong with this statement that you became so intensely irritated by Pilger? You are welcome to debunk the statement point by point.

    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Dr. X says:
    @anarchyst
    There are NO documents planning a "final solution". Even the holocaust™ promoters admit that there is not one document that advances or supports the extermination of jews.
    The clever zionists marginalized their own kind with books such as "Germany Must Perish" and "world jewry's declaration of (economic) "war" on Germany in 1933. You see, zionists were successful in making life miserable for German jews, thereby accelerating their plans for populating Palestine and getting (the future state of) Israel off the ground...

    There are NO documents planning a “final solution”.

    Correct. However, units in the war zone were given a free hand to figure something out with a wink and a nod.

    I have not doubt that the Jews have used the Holocaust for political purposes and have controlled the narrative about it to their advantage. But there’s also no doubt that a lot of Jewish detainees in the hands of Germany met rather unpleasant fates, from starvation to getting shot to typhus to getting worked to death. Did some get gassed? Probably. After all the NSDAP had a euthanasia program for German people considered defective. But however many Jews might’ve been gassed, it wasn’t six million.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:

    “Correct. However, units in the war zone were given a free hand to figure something out with a wink and a nod.”

    Incorrect.

    http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=1533

    “The most intense phase in the industrial annihilation of the Jews occurred between March 1942 and February 1943, when about two-thirds of the Nazis’ victims were killed. Murder on this scale entailed a massive logistical effort on the part of the Nazi regime, as the following report–the so-called Korherr Report–reveals. The report was drawn up in the spring of 1943 by Dr. Richard Korherr, the Inspector for Statistics with the Reichsführer SS, at the request of Heinrich Himmler. Adolf Eichmann, who was in charge of the “evacuation” of the European Jews in his capacity as head of the Referat IV B4 at the Reich Main Security Office, later testified in court that the Korherr Report had made his job much easier.”

    “I have not doubt that the Jews have used the Holocaust for political purposes and have controlled the narrative about it to their advantage.”

    I have no doubt that the non-Jews have used the Holocaust for political purposes and have controlled the narrative about it to their advantage.

    “But there’s also no doubt that a lot of Jewish detainees in the hands of Germany met rather unpleasant fates, from starvation to getting shot to typhus to getting worked to death.”

    Not unpleasant fates, gruesome fates.

    “Did some get gassed? Probably.”

    Not probably, but definitively.

    “After all the NSDAP had a euthanasia program for German people considered defective. But however many Jews might’ve been gassed, it wasn’t six million.”

    Millions of Jews were gassed, shot, raped then slaughtered, worked until they died, subjected to medical experiments, etc.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • jack ryan says: • Website
    @Wally
    Indeed, it boils down to this:

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com

    Also recall that at Nuremberg 'the court was not bound by technical rules of evidence.'

    - U.S. Congressional Representative, Lawrence H. Smith of Wisconsin said:
    " The Nuremberg Trials are so repugnant to the Anglo-Saxon principles of justice that we must forever be ashamed of that page in our history."
    Congressional Record, appendix, v.95, sec.14, 6/15/49

    A nice nugget:
    Stauffenberg & Co. never claimed anything like an extermination program as one of their motives for their attempted coup.

    The Holocaustian Propaganda-Campaign against Bashar al-Assad
    http://codoh.com/library/document/4764/?lang=en

    I’m seeing lots of people who should know better simply parroting the same old, same old lies that ASSAD is the New HITLER = Assad is about to gas thousands, maybe 6 million little children etc.

    Yep a parrot.

    We commissioned a cartoon on this subject

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Truth says:
    @Hibernian
    "And send the Irish back."

    Sorry, I refuse to cut myself into three parts and send 5/8 of myself to Ireland and 3/8 elsewhere.

    Looking for a volunteer?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • annamaria says:
    @Art Deco
    annamaria, if you wish to pleasure yourself with your own fantasies or John Pilger's, that's fine. There's another person on this thread peddling the idea that sneaky Jews fabricated the holocaust and another fellow who fancies Frank Marshall Davis is Barack Obama's father. I do wish you'd all quit making a pest of yourself to others with these fictions.

    “…your own fantasies or John Pilger’s…”

    John Pilger, Assange, Snowden, Paul Craig Roberts, Philip Giraldi and others of the same caliber are men of virtue: they are intelligent, principled, and very courageous. They are non-conformists with a strong sense of social responsibility – they are great men of our times. It is not new when less endowed personalities develop an intense dislike of great people.

    Was it you who have been denouncing holocaust or writing about Davis? No? – Neither me. Then why are you making a pest of yourself by spreading the insinuations?

    Do my posts criticize ziocon policies? – Yes. In this respect I am in complete agreement with the above mentioned great men. The post that you have responded to was about the amorality of US involvement in the neo-Nazi adventure in Ukraine. Is not Mrs. Nuland Jewish? What about the Kagans’ clan? It seems that you feel irritated and aggravated because the facts have anti-ziocon bias. Here is a quote from Pilger’ article: “Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the US has ringed Russia with military bases, nuclear warplanes and missiles as part of its Nato enlargement project.” – What’s wrong with this statement that you became so intensely irritated by Pilger? You are welcome to debunk the statement point by point.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus
    "You have a habit of not answering questions put to you."

    That would be Fake News on your part. :)

    "No, I am not in the habit of supporting people whose positions I consider harmful."

    Let me rephrase. Those individuals who repeatedly use the Fake News meme as a default, how is their position other than harmful? When I refer to "default", I mean that people begin to read a NYT article, and automatically declare it as "Fake News" without undergoing a vetting process. Would you agree or disagree that the stance they take is other than harmful? Why?

    "You’re mixing up effectiveness with other things here."

    No, I am not. It is easy for people to merely use a meme and go on with their lives rather than conduct an investigation as to how and why a source is biased/unbiased, factual/lacking in facts, etc. Exactly why the meme lacks effectiveness in stimulating substantial discourse. Memes are nothing more than distractors. Look, squirrel!

    "It works as a way to destroy the special nature of “mainstream” media outlets such as CNN."

    Who says that mainstream media is of a "special nature"? I would venture to say that many people even during the times of Kronkite stated that the media was other than special.

    "Yes, but he still was put on a pedestal. The pedestal now no longer exists."

    Put on a pedestal because he would only comment on matters he found important at the END of his broadcast. When it came to reporting stories, he had an opinion. People understood what was his agenda and his stance. It is different today because at least he was willing to investigate alternative points of view. The extreme left and right both are equal to the task of solipsism and confirmation bias. It is the moderates who are derided for their compromise streak, those who work toward trying to minimize their own prejudices, as challenging as it is.

    When I refer to “default”, I mean that people begin to read a NYT article, and automatically declare it as “Fake News” without undergoing a vetting process.

    You mean like the front page stories by Judith Miller claiming Saddam was hiding WMD in the basement of one of his palaces? Are you suggesting an elaborate vetting process was required to determine that these kinds of stories were total BS?

    Listen, things have deteriorated to such a point that, sadly, it should now become the default position for every rational person to assume that the LOW (Lugenpresse of Weimerica) is spouting lies, rather than telling truths.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "You mean like the front page stories by Judith Miller claiming Saddam was hiding WMD in the basement of one of his palaces? Are you suggesting an elaborate vetting process was required to determine that these kinds of stories were total BS?"

    The elaborate vetting process is already in place. Reporters and citizens routinely challenge the validity of those stories. It is incumbent upon people to keep the media on their toes, rather than shout a useless meme and wildly assume every story is other than accurate and other than factual.

    "Listen, things have deteriorated to such a point that, sadly, it should now become the default position for every rational person to assume that the LOW (Lugenpresse of Weimerica) is spouting lies, rather than telling truths."

    It is the default position for people who are OTHER than rational to mouth off "Fake News".
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:
    @epochehusserl
    Title 7 section 703 j explicitly prohibits quotas Corvinus. Tell me what legislation or body of work contradicts what MLK himself helped pass:

    "Nothing contained in this title shall be interpreted to require any employer, employment agency, labor organization, or joint labor-management committee subject to this title to grant preferential treatment to any individual or to any group because of the race, color, religion, sex, or national origin of such individual or group on account of an imbalance which may exist with respect to the total number or percentage of persons of any race, color, religion, sex, or national origin employed by any employer, referred or classified for employment by any employment agency or labor organization, admitted to membership or classified by any labor organization, or admitted to, or employed in, any apprenticeship or other training program, in comparison with the total number or percentage of persons of such race, color, religion, sex, or national origin in any community, State, section, or other area, or in the available work force in any community, State, section, or other area."

    I will repeat the relevant portions of the legislation:

    "in comparison with the total number or percentage of persons of such race, color, religion, sex, or national origin in any community, State, section, or other area, or in the available work force in any community, State, section, or other area."

    Quotas were never democratically elected or allowed by the Supreme Court. Show me where these portions were repealed please.

    You haven’t been paying close attention. The citation only states “preferential treatment”, NOT quotas. One could reasonably assume that preferential treatment could lead to racial quotas, but the Supreme Court in the Bakke case made racial quotas unconstitutional. Furthermore, the Supreme Court upheld Michigan’s voter-approved law that banned the use of racial criteria in college admissions and found in favor of white firefighters who challenged racial quotas in Ricci v. DeStefano.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    When I refer to “default”, I mean that people begin to read a NYT article, and automatically declare it as “Fake News” without undergoing a vetting process.
     
    You mean like the front page stories by Judith Miller claiming Saddam was hiding WMD in the basement of one of his palaces? Are you suggesting an elaborate vetting process was required to determine that these kinds of stories were total BS?

    Listen, things have deteriorated to such a point that, sadly, it should now become the default position for every rational person to assume that the LOW (Lugenpresse of Weimerica) is spouting lies, rather than telling truths.

    “You mean like the front page stories by Judith Miller claiming Saddam was hiding WMD in the basement of one of his palaces? Are you suggesting an elaborate vetting process was required to determine that these kinds of stories were total BS?”

    The elaborate vetting process is already in place. Reporters and citizens routinely challenge the validity of those stories. It is incumbent upon people to keep the media on their toes, rather than shout a useless meme and wildly assume every story is other than accurate and other than factual.

    “Listen, things have deteriorated to such a point that, sadly, it should now become the default position for every rational person to assume that the LOW (Lugenpresse of Weimerica) is spouting lies, rather than telling truths.”

    It is the default position for people who are OTHER than rational to mouth off “Fake News”.

    Read More
    • Replies: @geokat62

    It is the default position for people who are OTHER than rational to mouth off “Fake News”.
     
    Ok. So tell us Corvy, do you think the Russia-gate narrative, currently being propagated by the media, is fake or real?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • It seems white-vs-white animus will once again be the undoing of the West.

    There was the disastrous WWI.

    WWII was worse. Hitler the whitey attacked White Poland and then White Russia.

    Still, the winners of WWII were white powers: US, UK, and Russia.

    In a way, Cold War had bigger repercussions. As John Lukacs said, it was a mistake for the West to see Russia, a white nation, as the main long-term challenge. It was the rise of China.

    But Cold War pitted US vs USSR, and the US even sided with China against USSR. That gave a huge opening to China to become a great power.

    Now, we have more white vs white. We have US-EU vs Russia when US-EU are most threatened by Third World immigration-invasion. At the current rate of invasion, EU will turn into Afro-Islamic hellhole within half a century.

    But instead of all whites working together, we have whites siding with Diversity against other whites.

    In the EU, globalist whites welcome Afro-Islamo invasion while hating on Russia(and even EU nations Poland and Hungary for not being ‘inclusive’ to invaders). PC is new religion, and whites infected with PC virus can only feel good and proud(even smugly supremacist in piousness) by invoking Diversity. So, if whites embrace diversity, they are BETTER and SUPERIOR to whites who reject it.

    And in the US, we have plenty of whites who side with Diversity against fellow whites whom they demean as ‘deplorable’.
    So, while both EU and US are being invaded by the Third World, the white vs white conflict diverts white energies from unifying and saving the West from Third World leeches.

    This isn’t just a rational policy issue. ‘Diversity is our strength’ has been such a mantra repeated over and over that it’s like second nature to many white people. It’s no longer a thought but a feeling, a passion, a ‘hope’. And it’s taken on faith without reflection. That’s the effect of mantras and chants. It’s like Buddhist chants are not about critical thought but blind faith.

    So, we cannot even rationally debate ‘diversity is our strength’ with globalist whites. It’s like mental tattoos, like the spell of “heil hitler” to the true believers in Nazi Germany. “Heil Diversity” said over and over and over. It just becomes a part of you. Worse, it is part of elite ideology, and that means the powers-that-be believe this nonsense at the top. And as fish rots from the head, this crazy idea has been disseminated far and wide through education and media and entertainment. It was once the sickness of elites, but now entire generations grew up smoking that PC crack.

    When something like that happens and gains unstoppable momentum, the ONLY thing that will finally lead to a change of course is the Logic of Excessivism. Some fires, you can put out. But some fires are so out-of-control, the ONLY way they will go out is by burning themselves out. That is what’s happening to current Venezuela. That kind of socialism doesn’t work. Only fascist-socialism works, but Hugo Chavez promised his minions free everything when oil prices were high. When the prices collapsed, the whole welfare economy sunk and Venezuela is falling apart. Venezuelans are learning the hard way.

    And look at China in late 50s. I suspect there were smart, educated, and sensible Chinese who knew that Mao’s anti-sparrow campaign was bound to be disastrous. They knew about basic ecology, about how sparrows consume insects. But they dared not oppose Mao since doing so could get them labeled as ‘reactionary’, ‘bourgeois’, ‘saboteur’, ‘capitalist roader’, etc. So, the ONLY way for China to realize the stupidity was let the crazy collectivist fever run its course. In time, the near-extinction of sparrows meant insect populations exploding and devouring more crops than sparrows ever did. This could have been averted IF people could speak the truth. But under Maoism, Mao was god and whatever he said was infallible. Questioning Mao was unthinkable and dangerous.

    Germany faced the same problem under Hitler. Most Germans didn’t want war. Many in the German military were anxious about Hitler’s provocations outside German territory. But Hitler amassed such power and aura that the ONLY way Germans could learn the lesson was by another world war that would kill tens of millions and destroy Germany. Once Hitler became a god, everyone and everything in Germany were geared to fulfill his vision. It was the fatalist logic of the cult of infallibility. It became unthinkable to doubt Hitler’s vision. At the slightest whiff of dissent, Hitler might throw of his frightening tantrums or, worse, send people to prison.

    We’d like to think secular liberal democracies would be immune to the Logic of Power in totalitarian societies, but as PC has proven, even a liberal democracy can fall under the sway of totalitarian neo-religious mindset despite political pluralism and rule of law. US and EU are still democracies, but their reigning ideologies and cultures are mentally-totalitarian or mentalitarian. It is the Stalinism of the mind. PC elevated certain slogans, images, and narratives as sacrosanct or seculosanct. So, even though the democratic system remained intact, people’s thoughts and emotions became more mono-ideologically governed by infallible truisms and unquestionable narratives of justice.

    Take MLK. He has become such a holy figure that, despite liberal democratic guarantees, no one dares to speak honestly or truthfully about his real record. Whenever he is mentioned, there is the gushing tone, muted reverence, and teary eyes. Same with Mandela in the EU.
    And even though, technically, there is legal freedom to say anything about the Civil Rights Movement, PC totalitarianism of the mind makes it impossible to think or speak anything other than glowing official narrative. So, instead of seeing it as a complex event, it is reiterated as a simple case of heroes and villains, cops and robbers, god and devil. There is only saintly negroes led by MLK vs KKK & ‘racists’.
    Even those who know the truth dare not discuss candidly the legitimate reasons as to why whites feared blacks(and not just in the South). Indeed, some semblance of truth on racial issues partially re-emerged, it was only because black crime got so out of control that the US had no choice but to bring back law and order and lock up many blacks. But the MLK cult has been so powerful that even strong anti-black-crime measures were spun as something that had nothing to do with race and only with public safety. So, the millennial generation grew up learning nothing, and it was only the disaster of BLM that woke up some of them. The Narrative fed to millennials portrayed Civil Rights Era as manichean struggle between pure good and pure evil; it then paved over the problems of black violence and crime that soon inundated so many parts of America. If anything, officially approved ‘studies’ on blacks and violence tend to feature blacks as hapless victims of police violence.

    And now, the biggest disaster of all time is looming over Europe. The African Invasion. This is horrible for so many reasons and on so many levels. If Africans were like Asian Hindus, it would still be bad. Sure, they wouldn’t be violent and dangerous, but huge waves of foreigners will utterly change the indigenous character of EU. Even if all black Africans were relatively law-abiding like Chinese and Hindus, too many of them will alter Europe into ‘new europe’ which is no longer Europe. Hungary that is filled with non-Hungarians or ‘new hungarians’ would no longer be Hungary in any meaningful sense. Also, each people have a special aesthetic, and extensive race-mixing turns everyone into a mixed-bag people like Brazilians or Venezuelan or Yemenese. Why would we want Europe to become like Latin America or North Africa? If people have a fetish for mixed-races, they should just move to Peru or northern Sudan and live there.

    But things are much worse. Not only are black Africans different racially but they are different in the most horrific ways.They have anti-civilizational genetics. Even if one is opposed to race-mixing, it’s true enough that if Europeans mix with Hindus, they will still have civilization since Hindus got civilization-capable DNA. But if whites mix a lot with blacks, the anti-civilizational DNA of blacks will spread throughout Europe. And it’s not just about IQ. After all, there are intelligent mulatto blacks in the US and Europe.But even with higher IQ, their black racial personality make them so abrasive, nasty, self-centered, and lacking in introspection. Someone like Michael Dyson or Cornel West is a total waste of intelligence. Obama too. Their personality is too jivey to use that intelligent in any noble way. Their self-righteous self-promotion is sickening and do NOTHING for blacks.

    Anyway, blacks are the biggest threat to whites because they are more muscular and will kick white butt. They are less intelligent and become leeches on the economy. They are wilder and more aggressive and create social havoc. And black men got bigger dongs and colonize wombs of white women with jungle fever and turn Europeans into a mud people like Moroccans and Janjooid in Sudan. Do Europeans want to look like a bunch of Janjooids in the future? Do Europeans want the average European of the future to look like the guy in ALI: FEAR EATS THE SOUL(one of Fassbinder’s few decent movies)?

    If Chinese or Hindus took over Europe, it’d be bad enough. Still, there would be civilization as Chinese and Hindus can at least maintain that.
    But if black Africans take over Europe, it will be end of white race, end of Europe, and end of civilization. EU will be EUgabuga.

    Now, this should be so obvious to any sane person. And in the past, whites would have said so, not least because they had the guts to refer to foreigners as w*gs and n*****s and ch**ks and etc. They had a refreshing survivalist Enoch-Powell-Archie-Bunker side to them.
    But Diversity is the mantra of the Current West. More diversity is always good!! Gotta have more and more and more. One can never ever stop. Even if whites are poised to become shamed minorities in their own homeland, they gotta have more diversity because ‘diversity is our strength, dios, dios, dios, dios’. EU is under diversity hypnosis.
    But there is also the Negrophilia with sports, rap, and jungle fever. White Europeans are addicted to Afropop and Afro-sex. And there is also the Magic Negro cult. Gotta worship Mandela as new santa claus black jesus of the West. Also, EU worships Jews, and Europeans dare not say or do anything that might displease Jews. If Jews say ‘homos and negroes’ are the holiest after Jews themselves, Europeans must comply since Jews are the holy holocaust people to whom Europeans must apologize to and atone forever and ever. The reason for homomania’s rapid spread had nothing to do with rationality, secular culture, liberal values, and etc. A truly skeptical liberal would question why a society should be associating homos with rainbows and celebrating trannies as figures of ‘pride’ in mass summer marches. The reason why no one asks such question is because homomania is an anti-liberal cult, a new religion. It is part of the stalinism of the mind. Education and Entertainment instilled stalinist faith in homos and trannies as holy. So, even as American bodies are democratic and free in a republic governed by rule of law, American minds are totalitarian in thought and feelings. Is it any wonder that so many millennials believe free speech must be curtailed to ban ‘hate speech’? When a people are mentally enslaved in a liberal democracy, can it really be called a democracy? Imagine a dog that has the freedom to run free but refuses to do so because it’s mind has been trained to stay within 20 yards of the house. It has the wherewithal to be free in body but the inability to be free in mind and will.

    Given all these factors, it is nearly as impossible for Europeans to speak honestly about diversity and blacks as it was impossible for Chinese to speak honestly about Mao’s nutty sparrow policy or Germans about Hitler’s psychotic war policies.

    When the fire is out of control, you will only get burned trying to put it out. All you can do is step back and watch it burn and burn until it finally burns out of its own accord. If you’re lucky, you won’t get burned. If not, you’ll be burned too, like the dead Chinese in Great Leap Forward and dead Germans in WWII.

    Anyway, the Diversity Cult will be the biggest mistake and horror in world history. While Nazism and WWII were horrible, Europe remained European. It could rebuild and be a sane and safe place again. Even with loss of tens of millions, it didn’t destroy Europe as the homeland of Europeans.
    Same with killing sparrows in China during the Great Leap Forward. It led to mass famine and deaths of tens of millions, but China remained Chinese and China could learn from mistakes and grow again. The anti-sparrow campaign was so rabid and hysterical(like current PC’s campaigns against ‘racism’, ‘homophobia’, and ‘xenophobia’) that it was impossible for sensible Chinese to say NO or call it into question. Everyone got swept along since the only approved and allowed position was anti-sparrow virulence. But even there was no effort on Mao’s part to replace Chinese with non-Chinese.

    In contrast, demographic changes are unalterable. It’s like Serbs lost Kosovo forever. It’s like Palestinians lost Palestine and will never get it back. (The ONLY way Palestinians could regain their homeland is if Jews in Israel become like Anglos in California and Texas and grow lax and lazy and allow the previous territorial owners to resettle it in great numbers. But Jews are unlikely to be that stupid.)
    If the mistake is political, military, economic, or ideological, it could be corrected and reversed, and the nation can be restored once again.
    But if the mistake is demographic, the tragedy will be permanent. Anglos let in tons of non-whites into California, and that disaster can’t be reversed. White majority California is finished forever.

    And this could well be the fate of EU under current trends and PC ideology. It has created a system of suicidal True Believers of crazy nonsense and cowardly closet-believers-of-truth who dare not say the obvious: The Emperor has no clothes and the Negro is doing the Emperor’s daughter.

    What people fear most is not being wrong. Rather, they fear being labeled as ‘evil’. PC deems honest & truthful views on race not only to be wrong but ‘evil’.
    Being ‘wrong’ about race isn’t like being wrong about chemistry or physics. It is like being sick in the soul and demented in the head.

    PC inversion elevated lies as holiness and cursed truth as profanity. So, the true believers of lies feel most justified while honest believers of truth feel most vilified and ostracized. So, the liars are most aggressive and bold in their self-righteous lunacy(like antifa goons and elite globo-intellectuals), whereas the believers-of-truth tend to be timid or apologetic when they venture to tell the truth, like with Sarrazin.

    The fall of the West will be especially tragic since Europe was the center of the highest achievement of mankind. To see that brought down and ravaged by the lowest of the mankind, the black African savages, will be the ugliest, most horrific, and most disgusting event in world history. And it will be irreversible. Europe will be the thigh and vagina of the African fist and penis.

    Read More
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    Let's not forget the sordid "true" stories about the so-called "civil-rights icons" of the 1950s and 1960s...not the commonly accepted "fabrications"...
    Rosa Parks was an organizer for the NAACP and had communist, leftist leanings. Her famous "bus ride" was an orchestrated, planned event. The picture of of Rosa Parks with the "white guy" sitting behind her was planned. You see, the "white guy" was a UPI reporter contracted to cover the "event". Previous to Ms. Parks' "bus ride" an ordinary black woman also refused to give up her seat. She got no publicity or help from the so-called "civil-rights" organizations as she was an unmarried woman with children. The NAACP wanted someone who was "squeaky clean".
    Emmett Till was not the "little boy" who was killed for whistling at a white woman. According to published accounts, Mr. Till grabbed and fondled a white woman store clerk--not "just whistling". In most areas, that kind of behavior is considered "assault". Mr. Till was not a "little boy", but was a strapping young man of about 160 lbs. He was sent to live with relatives down south as his Chicago mother could not handle him. He used to brag about "getting it on" with white women--not a good idea, especially in the deep south of the day. Due to his cocky attitude, he refused to "leave town" with his relatives until the situation subsided. If he had apologized, he would be alive today. However, his cocky attitude got in the way. As an aside, two of the three people who tortured and killed Emmett Till were black. It is interesting to note that Emmett Till's father was executed by the U S military for rape. Maybe the "apple didn't fall far from the tree"...
    Martin Luther (Michael) King plagiarized his doctoral thesis. His "I Have a Dream" speech was lifted from a 1920s preacher's sermon. His own associates have admitted that he enjoyed beating up prostitutes while declaring that he "finally felt like a white man".
    Jesse Jackson used to brag about spitting in white customers' food, when he worked at a restaurant.
    More to come...
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus
    "You mean like the front page stories by Judith Miller claiming Saddam was hiding WMD in the basement of one of his palaces? Are you suggesting an elaborate vetting process was required to determine that these kinds of stories were total BS?"

    The elaborate vetting process is already in place. Reporters and citizens routinely challenge the validity of those stories. It is incumbent upon people to keep the media on their toes, rather than shout a useless meme and wildly assume every story is other than accurate and other than factual.

    "Listen, things have deteriorated to such a point that, sadly, it should now become the default position for every rational person to assume that the LOW (Lugenpresse of Weimerica) is spouting lies, rather than telling truths."

    It is the default position for people who are OTHER than rational to mouth off "Fake News".

    It is the default position for people who are OTHER than rational to mouth off “Fake News”.

    Ok. So tell us Corvy, do you think the Russia-gate narrative, currently being propagated by the media, is fake or real?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:

    “Ok. So tell us Corvy, do you think the Russia-gate narrative, currently being propagated by the media, is fake or real?”

    There assuredly is something taking place here, more than what the media is reporting, given that there is a special counsel, the FBI, and several state AG’s investigating different avenues, from RICO to spying to tampering to lying. People want the smoking gun, they want the evidence to immediately come out directly linking Trump. In such an investigation, however, you start at the bottom and work your way to the top. What is telling that is that Deputy Solicitor General Michael Dreeben, a prolific Supreme Court advocate who oversees the Justice Department’s criminal appellate docket, is on board. People of his caliber do not accept such a position to “lose”. We will know more in the next two years. Those who are making claims that there is a vast conspiracy include well known, high profile lawyers and law enforcement officials who, if they neglect to move carefully and methodically, will f— matters up royally. I think there is a combination of real reporting here, followed by over the top journalism. One has to really be on top of this absolutely complicated story. Again, there is something here. What exactly, I’m not sure.

    Read More
    • Replies: @geokat62

    There assuredly is something taking place here, more than what the media is reporting,...

    Again, there is something here. What exactly, I’m not sure.
     

    Ok. So, do you think the DNC emails were hacked as the LOW alleges, or do you think they were leaked as Julian Assange and Craig Murray both allege?
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • anarchyst says:
    @Priss Factor
    It seems white-vs-white animus will once again be the undoing of the West.

    There was the disastrous WWI.

    WWII was worse. Hitler the whitey attacked White Poland and then White Russia.

    Still, the winners of WWII were white powers: US, UK, and Russia.

    In a way, Cold War had bigger repercussions. As John Lukacs said, it was a mistake for the West to see Russia, a white nation, as the main long-term challenge. It was the rise of China.

    But Cold War pitted US vs USSR, and the US even sided with China against USSR. That gave a huge opening to China to become a great power.

    Now, we have more white vs white. We have US-EU vs Russia when US-EU are most threatened by Third World immigration-invasion. At the current rate of invasion, EU will turn into Afro-Islamic hellhole within half a century.

    But instead of all whites working together, we have whites siding with Diversity against other whites.

    In the EU, globalist whites welcome Afro-Islamo invasion while hating on Russia(and even EU nations Poland and Hungary for not being 'inclusive' to invaders). PC is new religion, and whites infected with PC virus can only feel good and proud(even smugly supremacist in piousness) by invoking Diversity. So, if whites embrace diversity, they are BETTER and SUPERIOR to whites who reject it.

    And in the US, we have plenty of whites who side with Diversity against fellow whites whom they demean as 'deplorable'.
    So, while both EU and US are being invaded by the Third World, the white vs white conflict diverts white energies from unifying and saving the West from Third World leeches.

    This isn't just a rational policy issue. 'Diversity is our strength' has been such a mantra repeated over and over that it's like second nature to many white people. It's no longer a thought but a feeling, a passion, a 'hope'. And it's taken on faith without reflection. That's the effect of mantras and chants. It's like Buddhist chants are not about critical thought but blind faith.

    So, we cannot even rationally debate 'diversity is our strength' with globalist whites. It's like mental tattoos, like the spell of "heil hitler" to the true believers in Nazi Germany. "Heil Diversity" said over and over and over. It just becomes a part of you. Worse, it is part of elite ideology, and that means the powers-that-be believe this nonsense at the top. And as fish rots from the head, this crazy idea has been disseminated far and wide through education and media and entertainment. It was once the sickness of elites, but now entire generations grew up smoking that PC crack.

    When something like that happens and gains unstoppable momentum, the ONLY thing that will finally lead to a change of course is the Logic of Excessivism. Some fires, you can put out. But some fires are so out-of-control, the ONLY way they will go out is by burning themselves out. That is what's happening to current Venezuela. That kind of socialism doesn't work. Only fascist-socialism works, but Hugo Chavez promised his minions free everything when oil prices were high. When the prices collapsed, the whole welfare economy sunk and Venezuela is falling apart. Venezuelans are learning the hard way.

    And look at China in late 50s. I suspect there were smart, educated, and sensible Chinese who knew that Mao's anti-sparrow campaign was bound to be disastrous. They knew about basic ecology, about how sparrows consume insects. But they dared not oppose Mao since doing so could get them labeled as 'reactionary', 'bourgeois', 'saboteur', 'capitalist roader', etc. So, the ONLY way for China to realize the stupidity was let the crazy collectivist fever run its course. In time, the near-extinction of sparrows meant insect populations exploding and devouring more crops than sparrows ever did. This could have been averted IF people could speak the truth. But under Maoism, Mao was god and whatever he said was infallible. Questioning Mao was unthinkable and dangerous.

    https://youtu.be/ZGwikhCts2o?t=11m18s

    Germany faced the same problem under Hitler. Most Germans didn't want war. Many in the German military were anxious about Hitler's provocations outside German territory. But Hitler amassed such power and aura that the ONLY way Germans could learn the lesson was by another world war that would kill tens of millions and destroy Germany. Once Hitler became a god, everyone and everything in Germany were geared to fulfill his vision. It was the fatalist logic of the cult of infallibility. It became unthinkable to doubt Hitler's vision. At the slightest whiff of dissent, Hitler might throw of his frightening tantrums or, worse, send people to prison.

    We'd like to think secular liberal democracies would be immune to the Logic of Power in totalitarian societies, but as PC has proven, even a liberal democracy can fall under the sway of totalitarian neo-religious mindset despite political pluralism and rule of law. US and EU are still democracies, but their reigning ideologies and cultures are mentally-totalitarian or mentalitarian. It is the Stalinism of the mind. PC elevated certain slogans, images, and narratives as sacrosanct or seculosanct. So, even though the democratic system remained intact, people's thoughts and emotions became more mono-ideologically governed by infallible truisms and unquestionable narratives of justice.

    Take MLK. He has become such a holy figure that, despite liberal democratic guarantees, no one dares to speak honestly or truthfully about his real record. Whenever he is mentioned, there is the gushing tone, muted reverence, and teary eyes. Same with Mandela in the EU.
    And even though, technically, there is legal freedom to say anything about the Civil Rights Movement, PC totalitarianism of the mind makes it impossible to think or speak anything other than glowing official narrative. So, instead of seeing it as a complex event, it is reiterated as a simple case of heroes and villains, cops and robbers, god and devil. There is only saintly negroes led by MLK vs KKK & 'racists'.
    Even those who know the truth dare not discuss candidly the legitimate reasons as to why whites feared blacks(and not just in the South). Indeed, some semblance of truth on racial issues partially re-emerged, it was only because black crime got so out of control that the US had no choice but to bring back law and order and lock up many blacks. But the MLK cult has been so powerful that even strong anti-black-crime measures were spun as something that had nothing to do with race and only with public safety. So, the millennial generation grew up learning nothing, and it was only the disaster of BLM that woke up some of them. The Narrative fed to millennials portrayed Civil Rights Era as manichean struggle between pure good and pure evil; it then paved over the problems of black violence and crime that soon inundated so many parts of America. If anything, officially approved 'studies' on blacks and violence tend to feature blacks as hapless victims of police violence.

    And now, the biggest disaster of all time is looming over Europe. The African Invasion. This is horrible for so many reasons and on so many levels. If Africans were like Asian Hindus, it would still be bad. Sure, they wouldn't be violent and dangerous, but huge waves of foreigners will utterly change the indigenous character of EU. Even if all black Africans were relatively law-abiding like Chinese and Hindus, too many of them will alter Europe into 'new europe' which is no longer Europe. Hungary that is filled with non-Hungarians or 'new hungarians' would no longer be Hungary in any meaningful sense. Also, each people have a special aesthetic, and extensive race-mixing turns everyone into a mixed-bag people like Brazilians or Venezuelan or Yemenese. Why would we want Europe to become like Latin America or North Africa? If people have a fetish for mixed-races, they should just move to Peru or northern Sudan and live there.

    But things are much worse. Not only are black Africans different racially but they are different in the most horrific ways.They have anti-civilizational genetics. Even if one is opposed to race-mixing, it's true enough that if Europeans mix with Hindus, they will still have civilization since Hindus got civilization-capable DNA. But if whites mix a lot with blacks, the anti-civilizational DNA of blacks will spread throughout Europe. And it's not just about IQ. After all, there are intelligent mulatto blacks in the US and Europe.But even with higher IQ, their black racial personality make them so abrasive, nasty, self-centered, and lacking in introspection. Someone like Michael Dyson or Cornel West is a total waste of intelligence. Obama too. Their personality is too jivey to use that intelligent in any noble way. Their self-righteous self-promotion is sickening and do NOTHING for blacks.

    Anyway, blacks are the biggest threat to whites because they are more muscular and will kick white butt. They are less intelligent and become leeches on the economy. They are wilder and more aggressive and create social havoc. And black men got bigger dongs and colonize wombs of white women with jungle fever and turn Europeans into a mud people like Moroccans and Janjooid in Sudan. Do Europeans want to look like a bunch of Janjooids in the future? Do Europeans want the average European of the future to look like the guy in ALI: FEAR EATS THE SOUL(one of Fassbinder's few decent movies)?

    If Chinese or Hindus took over Europe, it'd be bad enough. Still, there would be civilization as Chinese and Hindus can at least maintain that.
    But if black Africans take over Europe, it will be end of white race, end of Europe, and end of civilization. EU will be EUgabuga.

    Now, this should be so obvious to any sane person. And in the past, whites would have said so, not least because they had the guts to refer to foreigners as w*gs and n*****s and ch**ks and etc. They had a refreshing survivalist Enoch-Powell-Archie-Bunker side to them.
    But Diversity is the mantra of the Current West. More diversity is always good!! Gotta have more and more and more. One can never ever stop. Even if whites are poised to become shamed minorities in their own homeland, they gotta have more diversity because 'diversity is our strength, dios, dios, dios, dios'. EU is under diversity hypnosis.
    But there is also the Negrophilia with sports, rap, and jungle fever. White Europeans are addicted to Afropop and Afro-sex. And there is also the Magic Negro cult. Gotta worship Mandela as new santa claus black jesus of the West. Also, EU worships Jews, and Europeans dare not say or do anything that might displease Jews. If Jews say 'homos and negroes' are the holiest after Jews themselves, Europeans must comply since Jews are the holy holocaust people to whom Europeans must apologize to and atone forever and ever. The reason for homomania's rapid spread had nothing to do with rationality, secular culture, liberal values, and etc. A truly skeptical liberal would question why a society should be associating homos with rainbows and celebrating trannies as figures of 'pride' in mass summer marches. The reason why no one asks such question is because homomania is an anti-liberal cult, a new religion. It is part of the stalinism of the mind. Education and Entertainment instilled stalinist faith in homos and trannies as holy. So, even as American bodies are democratic and free in a republic governed by rule of law, American minds are totalitarian in thought and feelings. Is it any wonder that so many millennials believe free speech must be curtailed to ban 'hate speech'? When a people are mentally enslaved in a liberal democracy, can it really be called a democracy? Imagine a dog that has the freedom to run free but refuses to do so because it's mind has been trained to stay within 20 yards of the house. It has the wherewithal to be free in body but the inability to be free in mind and will.

    Given all these factors, it is nearly as impossible for Europeans to speak honestly about diversity and blacks as it was impossible for Chinese to speak honestly about Mao's nutty sparrow policy or Germans about Hitler's psychotic war policies.

    When the fire is out of control, you will only get burned trying to put it out. All you can do is step back and watch it burn and burn until it finally burns out of its own accord. If you're lucky, you won't get burned. If not, you'll be burned too, like the dead Chinese in Great Leap Forward and dead Germans in WWII.

    Anyway, the Diversity Cult will be the biggest mistake and horror in world history. While Nazism and WWII were horrible, Europe remained European. It could rebuild and be a sane and safe place again. Even with loss of tens of millions, it didn't destroy Europe as the homeland of Europeans.
    Same with killing sparrows in China during the Great Leap Forward. It led to mass famine and deaths of tens of millions, but China remained Chinese and China could learn from mistakes and grow again. The anti-sparrow campaign was so rabid and hysterical(like current PC's campaigns against 'racism', 'homophobia', and 'xenophobia') that it was impossible for sensible Chinese to say NO or call it into question. Everyone got swept along since the only approved and allowed position was anti-sparrow virulence. But even there was no effort on Mao's part to replace Chinese with non-Chinese.

    In contrast, demographic changes are unalterable. It's like Serbs lost Kosovo forever. It's like Palestinians lost Palestine and will never get it back. (The ONLY way Palestinians could regain their homeland is if Jews in Israel become like Anglos in California and Texas and grow lax and lazy and allow the previous territorial owners to resettle it in great numbers. But Jews are unlikely to be that stupid.)
    If the mistake is political, military, economic, or ideological, it could be corrected and reversed, and the nation can be restored once again.
    But if the mistake is demographic, the tragedy will be permanent. Anglos let in tons of non-whites into California, and that disaster can't be reversed. White majority California is finished forever.

    And this could well be the fate of EU under current trends and PC ideology. It has created a system of suicidal True Believers of crazy nonsense and cowardly closet-believers-of-truth who dare not say the obvious: The Emperor has no clothes and the Negro is doing the Emperor's daughter.

    What people fear most is not being wrong. Rather, they fear being labeled as 'evil'. PC deems honest & truthful views on race not only to be wrong but 'evil'.
    Being 'wrong' about race isn't like being wrong about chemistry or physics. It is like being sick in the soul and demented in the head.

    PC inversion elevated lies as holiness and cursed truth as profanity. So, the true believers of lies feel most justified while honest believers of truth feel most vilified and ostracized. So, the liars are most aggressive and bold in their self-righteous lunacy(like antifa goons and elite globo-intellectuals), whereas the believers-of-truth tend to be timid or apologetic when they venture to tell the truth, like with Sarrazin.

    The fall of the West will be especially tragic since Europe was the center of the highest achievement of mankind. To see that brought down and ravaged by the lowest of the mankind, the black African savages, will be the ugliest, most horrific, and most disgusting event in world history. And it will be irreversible. Europe will be the thigh and vagina of the African fist and penis.

    Let’s not forget the sordid “true” stories about the so-called “civil-rights icons” of the 1950s and 1960s…not the commonly accepted “fabrications”…
    Rosa Parks was an organizer for the NAACP and had communist, leftist leanings. Her famous “bus ride” was an orchestrated, planned event. The picture of of Rosa Parks with the “white guy” sitting behind her was planned. You see, the “white guy” was a UPI reporter contracted to cover the “event”. Previous to Ms. Parks’ “bus ride” an ordinary black woman also refused to give up her seat. She got no publicity or help from the so-called “civil-rights” organizations as she was an unmarried woman with children. The NAACP wanted someone who was “squeaky clean”.
    Emmett Till was not the “little boy” who was killed for whistling at a white woman. According to published accounts, Mr. Till grabbed and fondled a white woman store clerk–not “just whistling”. In most areas, that kind of behavior is considered “assault”. Mr. Till was not a “little boy”, but was a strapping young man of about 160 lbs. He was sent to live with relatives down south as his Chicago mother could not handle him. He used to brag about “getting it on” with white women–not a good idea, especially in the deep south of the day. Due to his cocky attitude, he refused to “leave town” with his relatives until the situation subsided. If he had apologized, he would be alive today. However, his cocky attitude got in the way. As an aside, two of the three people who tortured and killed Emmett Till were black. It is interesting to note that Emmett Till’s father was executed by the U S military for rape. Maybe the “apple didn’t fall far from the tree”…
    Martin Luther (Michael) King plagiarized his doctoral thesis. His “I Have a Dream” speech was lifted from a 1920s preacher’s sermon. His own associates have admitted that he enjoyed beating up prostitutes while declaring that he “finally felt like a white man”.
    Jesse Jackson used to brag about spitting in white customers’ food, when he worked at a restaurant.
    More to come…

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus
    "Ok. So tell us Corvy, do you think the Russia-gate narrative, currently being propagated by the media, is fake or real?"

    There assuredly is something taking place here, more than what the media is reporting, given that there is a special counsel, the FBI, and several state AG's investigating different avenues, from RICO to spying to tampering to lying. People want the smoking gun, they want the evidence to immediately come out directly linking Trump. In such an investigation, however, you start at the bottom and work your way to the top. What is telling that is that Deputy Solicitor General Michael Dreeben, a prolific Supreme Court advocate who oversees the Justice Department's criminal appellate docket, is on board. People of his caliber do not accept such a position to "lose". We will know more in the next two years. Those who are making claims that there is a vast conspiracy include well known, high profile lawyers and law enforcement officials who, if they neglect to move carefully and methodically, will f--- matters up royally. I think there is a combination of real reporting here, followed by over the top journalism. One has to really be on top of this absolutely complicated story. Again, there is something here. What exactly, I'm not sure.

    There assuredly is something taking place here, more than what the media is reporting,…

    Again, there is something here. What exactly, I’m not sure.

    Ok. So, do you think the DNC emails were hacked as the LOW alleges, or do you think they were leaked as Julian Assange and Craig Murray both allege?

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:

    “Ok. So, do you think the DNC emails were hacked as the LOW alleges, or do you think they were leaked as Julian Assange and Craig Murray both allege?”

    I don’t know. Both sides have made their cases, and both sides claim they have information that, at the appropriate time, will reveal the “truth”. I think it will take months, perhaps even a couple of years, to find out that answer.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • geokat62 says:

    I think it will take months, perhaps even a couple of years, to find out that answer.

    Interesting. I guess you probably felt the same way about Judith Miller’s stories on the front pages of the NYT, claiming Saddam was hiding WMD in his basement – i.e., that months, perhaps years, were required to determine if it was fake news?

    For some of us, on the other hand, we knew immediately that the WMD story was Fake News. We didn’t have to wait for the Iraq Survey Group to issue its final report to know no WMD would be found.

    The same applies to alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election. There is no need to wait months or perhaps a couple of years to know this is Fake News.

    That’s because the news media has developed a track record of lying – they lied about Iraq’s WMD, they are lying about the White Helmets in Syria, and they are lying about Russia’s interference in the election. That’s why I refer to the MSM as the Lugenpresse of Weimerica (or LOW). You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to have figured this out. You just have to connect a few dots.

    In a comment on another thread you suggested the commenter “Adjust their tinfoil hat, accordingly.” This suggestion, altered slightly, applies in spades in your case:

    “Adjust your pussy-hat, accordingly.”

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • Corvinus says:

    “Interesting. I guess you probably felt the same way about Judith Miller’s stories on the front pages of the NYT, claiming Saddam was hiding WMD in his basement – i.e., that months, perhaps years, were required to determine if it was fake news?”

    Actually, I was quite skeptical from the start on that reporting. I had to be convinced by more facts. See, the Fake News fetish people would automatically state it is “fake” and totally and completely tune out. OR, if there had been additional, credible evidence available, those same Fake News fetish people would utterly dismiss it. That is ignorance.

    “For some of us, on the other hand, we knew immediately that the WMD story was Fake News. We didn’t have to wait for the Iraq Survey Group to issue its final report to know no WMD would be found.”

    Not Fake News, but reporting that was lacked confirmation and accuracy. See, there is a major difference here. You believed the STORY was bogus. Fine. Other people with their Fake News fetish believe that entire NEWS OUTLETS are bogus. Other than fine. That is ignorance. Read the story, flesh its details out, find counter arguments, and draw a conclusion. This process is intellectually sound.

    “The same applies to alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election. There is no need to wait months or perhaps a couple of years to know this is Fake News.”

    That would again be ignorance. The same arguments were made by the Nixon Administration against the media when they were investigating his malfeasance. Furthermore, you have several high profile attorneys who are putting their careers on hold to be part of the Mueller investigation team. Of course ego is involved, but so is their patriotic duty to get to the truth, which will take months or years, just like Watergate.

    “That’s because the news media has developed a track record of lying – they lied about Iraq’s WMD, they are lying about the White Helmets in Syria, and they are lying about Russia’s interference in the election. That’s why I refer to the MSM as the Lugenpresse of Weimerica (or LOW). You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to have figured this out. You just have to connect a few dots.”

    No, a track record of some reporters on the left and on the right of being other than accurate and a track record of being biased, no different than Mr. Sailor or Mr. Derbyshire or anyone else on the Alt-Right. Challenge what is in the source, not the source itself.

    “In a comment on another thread you suggested the commenter “Adjust their tinfoil hat, accordingly.” This suggestion, altered slightly, applies in spades in your case: “Adjust your pussy-hat, accordingly.”

    Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter.

    Read More
    ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter Display All Comments
  • Current Commenter says:

    Leave a Reply - Comments on articles more than two weeks old will be judged much more strictly on quality and tone


     Remember My InformationWhy?
     Email Replies to my Comment
    Submitted comments become the property of The Unz Review and may be republished elsewhere at the sole discretion of the latter
    Subscribe to This Comment Thread via RSS Subscribe to All John Derbyshire Comments via RSS
    Personal Classics
    Limbaugh and company certainly entertain. But a steady diet of ideological comfort food is no substitute for hearty intellectual fare.
    Once as a colonial project, now as a moral playground, the ancient continent remains the object of Great Power maneuvering