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I don’t know whether Trump Derangement Syndrome has reached Peak Hysteria yet, but this week it definitely attained what we math geeks call a “local maximum.” That means, while it may not be the tallest peak in the mountain range, it’s taller than anything in its immediate vicinity.

This is of course all about President Trump firing FBI Director James Comey. Prior to this week, the most famous episode in U.S. history concerning a President and his FBI Director was Lyndon Johnson’s apothegm about J. Edgar Hoover, slightly bowdlerized quote: “It’s probably better to have him inside the tent peeing out, than outside the tent peeing in.”

This week our President decided that FBI Director James Comey had been doing somewhat too much inward micturition and not enough of the outward kind, so he fired him.

That is perfectly constitutional. Comey was head of a federal agency reporting to the Executive Branch; the President is chief of that branch; there is no impropriety or unconstitutionality.

You’d never know that from the Establishment’s reaction. Politicians and pundits were weeping and rending their garments everywhere you looked. One major New York tabloid, the Daily News, ran a cover saying, in the largest type they could fit on the page, Coup de Trump.

That’s a metropolitan subeditor’s notion of a clever play on words, in this case the words coup d’état, an overthrow of the state by force. Since d’état means “of the state” while de Trump means “of Trump,” the actual implication of the Daily News to an educated reader (assuming the Daily News has one) would be that Trump had been overthrown by force.

That is not what happened, except in the fever dreams of our Trump-derangement- syndrome-affected elites. They couldn’t help but verbalize their wishful thinking, though. The coup motif was a common one, by no means restricted to the Daily News. “Donald Trump Is Attempting a Coup,” gasped Bill Moyers on his website. “A coup in real time?” asked Yale Professor of History Timothy Snyder [Email him]rhetorically at the CultMarx website Salon.com. The firing of Comey was, said this Ivy League professor, quote: “an open admission of collusion with Russia.” [A coup in real time? by Chauncey DeVega, May 12, 2017]

Atlantic editor David Frum called it “a coup against the FBI ” on Twitter. That one left me really confused. What, the FBI should be running the country, but Trump’s overthrown them?

As I said, probably not peak hysteria yet—that will have arrived when Yale professors and Atlantic editors run screaming naked through the streets while tearing their flesh with billhooks; but definitely a local maximum.

Thoughtful commentary on the firing—I mean, the small percentage of commentary that contained something other than shrieking and sputtering—concentrated on Trump’s timing, wisdom, and motivation. Here’s my take on those three aspects, taking them in turn:

  • I can’t summon up much interest in the timing.

If it was a right thing to do, the timing of the doing is secondary. Sooner would have been better; but better late than never.

  • The wisdom can reasonably be doubted.
ORDER IT NOW

Back in March I noted North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un’s purge of his secret police chief Kim Won-hong. I said how remarkable it was that the top cop was still alive, when senior officials who run afoul of Kim Jong-un are usually executed by some imaginatively gruesome method. How odd, I said, that the secret-police chief had merely been placed under house arrest. (He has since been sent to a camp for “re-education”.)

But that’s the thing with relations between a national leader and his secret-police boss, as LBJ understood. The secret-police boss knows far more about what’s going on, at a much greater depth of detail, than the leader does. He doesn’t just know where the bodies are buried: he knows how deep they are buried, and what was buried with them, and what was done to them that made it necessary at last to bury them, and who did it.

From the leader’s point of view, the secret-police chief is a cargo of dynamite, to be handled with extreme care.

The money quote here is one I retailed back in January, from Senator Chuck Schumer. Schumer is, as I noted at the time, a repulsive creep, but he nailed this one in a TV interview when asked about unkind things candidate Trump had said about the spooks:

Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday to get back at you. So, even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he [that is, Trump] is being really dumb to do this.

Schumer predicted intelligence officials would ‘get back at’ Trump, By Carl Campanile, NY Post, January 11, 2017

So on the wisdom point, I’m shaking my head. Donald Trump may, and I hope will, go down in history as a successful President, but I doubt he will be regarded as one of the wisest.

  • What about motivation?

I’m sticking with my LBJ analogy. Comey just wasn’t sufficiently on-side; or the President thought he wasn’t, which is functionally the same thing.

Other opinions were on offer from the commentariat. Ann Coulter told her Twitter followers, perhaps not entirely seriously: “Comey firing is a red herring to distract from the fact that Trump hasn’t started building the wall.” Sorry, Ann, and I want that wall as much as you do, babe, or very nearly as much; but that’s a stretch. I’m sticking with LBJ.

Out on the foam-flecked Left—which is to say, well-nigh all the Main Stream Media pundits and political Establishment—that Yale professor’s opinion was the default: Comey was getting too close to the truth about candidate Trump’s collaboration with the Russians to rig last November’s election.

ORDER IT NOW

This business about the Russians is by now a psychiatric-level obsession with our elites, a King Charles’s head. That’s in spite of the fact that after months of furious digging there is not a shard or fragment of evidence for it, not a jot nor a tittle. And in spite of the further fact that it makes no strategic sense whatsoever from the Russians’ point of view—a Clinton presidency would have suited them better. And in spite of the yet further fact that, according to me, it wouldn’t have mattered a damn if there had been Russian attempts to interfere in our election. Mexico interferes in our elections all the time and no-one except VDARE.com’s Allan Wall ever complains.

I suggested back in March that the President throw this Russia stuff right back in the elites’ smug weasel faces by making the Russian ambassador an honored guest at all cabinet meetings. In the same spirit of defiance, I now tender a further suggestion.

Mr. President, you are in need of a new FBI Director. Please consider appointing Russian ambassador Sergey Ivanovich Kislyak to this position.

Ambassador Kislyak is a genial and worldly fellow you should have no trouble getting along with. As a former diplomatic functionary of the U.S.S.R., I’m sure he is well acquainted with intelligence procedures and protocols. An ideal candidate!

You’d probably have to grant him U.S. citizenship; but I believe that can be done on an expedited basis by a simple Act of Congress.

The upside for you would be that it would drive the opposition into shrieking, moon-howling madness. The downside for our country would be … nothing at all.

FOOTNOTE: Is that really a great idea? No, not really a great one. A pretty bad one, actually.

On any reasonable scale of badness, though, its badness fades to insignificance, to nothing at all, by comparison with really really bad ideas: ideas like continuing mass Third World immigration, or restarting the Cold War with Russia.

A nation can survive having a foreigner of doubtful loyalty in charge of one of its law-enforcement agencies, but it can’t survive having its population replaced by alien peoples.

If that happens, the country is no longer what it was. It’s a different country.

That’s the condition we’re in. Really really bad ideas, lethally bad ideas, existentially disastrous ideas, are respectable, in fact well-nigh compulsory. Ideas that are mildly silly but not permanently harmful are considered outrageous.

That’s our condition.

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He’s had two books published by VDARE.com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and From the Dissident Right II: Essays 2013. His writings are archived at JohnDerbyshire.com.

(Republished from VDare.com by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. I don’t know whether Trump Derangement Syndrome has reached Peak Hysteria yet, but this week it definitely attained what we math geeks call a “local maximum.”

    John, I really think that the left loves this kind of phraseology out of the conservative pundits. It plays right into their plan, or if not a real plan, their way of thinking, as explained here. Hysteria may be at a local maximum, but stupidity is nearing a global maximum.

    Listen, the same thing happened with GW Bush, and with the same terminology on “our” side. We say how deranged these people are for freaking out about a nominal conservative, the guy is hardly a conservative at all and doesn’t do a whole lot to slow down the slide into socialism and decay, we feel better cause “if the left is freaking out so much, this guy must be A-OK!”, then 4-8 years later it is “time for a change, cause that last guy was just too far right – bring on another Øb☭ma” !

    It’s devious, it’s odious, but it’s been working great for the left for the last coupla decades. Don’t fall for it. I’m gonna come up with a name for this shortly.

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    Ahmed, there is NO "left" in America. Sure, there are a few bits & pieces of a left: Chomsky springs to mind (Moore looks Left, but he's more PC/progressive, neither of which are Left, merely "liberals" who would tinker around a bit before quickly bending over for the Elites)
    As for the implication Derb' makes that the whole MSM is Left....("Out on the foam-flecked Left—which is to say, well-nigh all the Main Stream Media pundits and political EstablishmentI") I mean...what ? The W-post, The WSJ, The NY Times etc etc are Left ? Oh please ! The MSM have been barking in support of Elites for 40 years at least. They are contra Trump on various self serving grounds, NONE of which include the welfare of average US citizens.
    On a more general note, I think Derb's article is absolutely spot-on.
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  2. Randal says:

    a Clinton presidency would have suited them better

    Not a sustainable position on any credible basis, I don’t think.

    To even begin to think along those lines you would have to do an awful lot of rewriting of history, basing Russian pre-election attitudes on events since Trump took office and not on attitudes and expectations prevalent during the campaign.

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    Not a sustainable position on any credible basis, I don’t think.

    To even begin to think along those lines you would have to do an awful lot of rewriting of history, basing Russian pre-election attitudes on events since Trump took office and not on attitudes and expectations prevalent during the campaign.
     
    The US president always has a huge power to stike , if they choose to use it. Russians had every right to expect that Clinton would have continued Obama's policy. Difficult to see what stable Russia-friendly policy Russians could have expected from an unpredictable loose cannon like Trump. Russians who wanted a character like Trump in charge of their US rival-- the most powerful nation on earth--were idiotic, especially as Trump said during the debates with Clinton that to be effective military action should come as a shock to those being targeted.
  3. Flavius says:

    Comey accepted the Clinton e-mail case under conditions that no ‘reasonable’ FBI Director should have: that it not be an investigation. If he had insisted that it be an investigation, and if it had been, there would have been no Clinton candidacy and absent a pardon, every liklihood that the Clintons today would be convicted felons. If he had been rebuffed and had resigned, he would have left the FBI as a hero. As it is, he is a goat, a dead goat, more road kill along the trail of the Clintons. Too bad!

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Very interesting. Can you give a link to a reliable source on Comey's "acceptance" of the email case with unacceptable conditions attached?
    , @JamesForrestal
    Let's not forget why we had the head of an investigative agency making an announcement about a decision on whether they would pursue an indictment on a particular case. Isn't that a prosecutor's job? Well, it was, until that meeting between Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton was publicized.

    The Attorney General dropped out of the spotlight after that, and suddenly the investigative agency became the decision maker as far as indictment/ prosecution. A little odd, when you think about it.
  4. Bijk says:

    “Atlantic editor David Frum called it “a coup against the FBI ” on Twitter. That one left me really confused. What, the FBI should be running the country, but Trump’s overthrown them?”

    If that left you confused, you should see Frum’s response to Le Pen’s loss: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/861286376863608832

    “Another consequence of Macron win: one of Western world’s most effective counter-intelligence cultures won’t be colonized by Moscow.”

    “Colonization” is a weird term here, since you’d think the mass immigration from muslims and africans into France (in large part because Macron is a Merkel sycophant) would be more readily called “colonization”, and that they’re colonizing one of the West’s greatest nations.

    Or even this- “The Conservative Case for Voting for Clinton”: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/dont-gamble-on-trump/506207/

    And this line: “But she is a patriot. She will uphold the sovereignty and independence of the United States. ”

    How? By securing our southern border with cartel-run narco states, reducing legal immigration, not granting amnesty? Because she didn’t want to do any of those things. Or does he mean saber-rattling against and going to war with boogeyman dictators like Saddam, Assad and Putin? I think it’s that one.

    None of it’s confusing at all when you consider David Frum is a dyed-in-the-wool neoconservative (warmongering globalist/remorseless sociopath) who’s found a new audience among the spastic neoliberals that compose the establishment left.

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    • Replies: @Canute
    Frum is entirely familiar with "colonization" in the halls of power. Along with the Kagan/Nuland family, Max Boot, Jonah and countless other Goldbergs, he has been deeply involved in the placement of a new hive at the WH on a continuous basis for his entire career - just as directed.
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    David Frum is an Israel-Firster. Understand that, then his writings become quite clear.
  5. Sean says:
    @Randal

    a Clinton presidency would have suited them better
     
    Not a sustainable position on any credible basis, I don't think.

    To even begin to think along those lines you would have to do an awful lot of rewriting of history, basing Russian pre-election attitudes on events since Trump took office and not on attitudes and expectations prevalent during the campaign.

    Not a sustainable position on any credible basis, I don’t think.

    To even begin to think along those lines you would have to do an awful lot of rewriting of history, basing Russian pre-election attitudes on events since Trump took office and not on attitudes and expectations prevalent during the campaign.

    The US president always has a huge power to stike , if they choose to use it. Russians had every right to expect that Clinton would have continued Obama’s policy. Difficult to see what stable Russia-friendly policy Russians could have expected from an unpredictable loose cannon like Trump. Russians who wanted a character like Trump in charge of their US rival– the most powerful nation on earth–were idiotic, especially as Trump said during the debates with Clinton that to be effective military action should come as a shock to those being targeted.

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    • Replies: @Randal
    Like I said, in order to even begin to defend Derbyshire's position on that, you would need to rewrite history, exactly as you are doing here.

    In the real world, Obama's policy was extremely unpleasant for the Russians (and for humanity as a whole, particular lobbies whose interests were served directly aside), and its only redeeming feature was that it was not quite as aggressively confrontational as the policies advocated by the Clinton wing "R2P" and other interventionists. In the real world, Trump held out the possibility of dealing with Russia sensibly and ending stupid regime change policies involving military and political aggression.

    That it hasn't turned out that way in practice (though things might yet end up going that way in the longer run) is largely to do with how things have played out after the election, in terms of the absurdly hysterical torrent of Russophobic nonsense from the US establishment, and the kinds of people who seem to have gained the ear of the president once in office. It need not have gone the way it has, and indeed many still argue that underneath all the noise and lights it has not.
  6. iffen says:

    We really need to get to the facts.

    If Russia, in fact, helped elect Trump, we Americans need to know so we can send our sincere thanks to Mother Russia.

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  7. it wouldn’t have mattered a damn if there had been Russian attempts to interfere in our election.

    Precisely! The US tries to interfere in the elections of other countries all the time, most recently Obama was trying to interfere in the UK’s Brexit vote. Are Americans such simps that they cannot decide for themselves for whom to vote when given a choice between such a pair of deplorables? (Rhetorical question.)

    But if this is really important to some people, perhaps the Russian ambassador should be captured and waterboarded so we can get the truth of the matter.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Don't you think there is a worthwhile distinction to be made between overt - even if subtle and a touch disinguous attempts to influence political outcomes in other coubtries and secret or wholly deceptive interventions, especially if they are intended to plant untruths in people's minds or connfuse them about relevant facts?
  8. Well what about AIPAC. This so-called ngo has a noose around al members of congress ,the senate and the TRUMP regime. But hell we can’t mention them or else one could say you were anti-semitic. Orwellian time we are living.
    One thing is 4 sure Politics in pax-americas has not changed. Lobby groups run the country and all their people are deeply imbedded in all aspects of our government. Democracy died with Socrates. The Corporate State is alive and well and Mussolini wrote a paper on it LO STATO CORPORATO. Gramsci used to label Trotskyist as the whores of fascism in todays lexicon the globalist are modern day Trotskyist

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    Indeed, who critises jews is an antisemite, and, as we all know, an antisemite is worse than a child murderer.
    , @animalogic
    "Well what about AIPAC."[?]
    Oh yes, the Jupiter sized elephant in the room which NO ONE in the establishment can seem to see. No, better to jump on a chair, pull our skirts up, stamp our little feet rapidly up & down & scream about a Russian mouse in the room (at least, it MIGHT have been a Russian mouse...??)
  9. guest says:

    “while de Trump means ‘of Trump,’ the actual implication of the Daily News to an educated reader…would be great that Trump had been overthrown by force.”

    I take it to mean a blow by Trump as opposed to a blow to Trump. Which isn’t the meaning of the original phrase. But they use these things rather loosely.

    See, to them Trump is illegitimate. Because electoral college, because Russia, or just because, Trump isn’t actually president. If he’s not president, he can’t do presidential things like fire the FBI director.

    In so doing Trump has usurped the legitimate state. Hence the “coup” talk.

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  10. If, IF, what I still hope, Trump really wants to change the USA course since Roosevelt, world domination by military force, of course there is a lot of opposition.

    Not just those for which Eisenhower already warned, the industrial military complex, but also the naive USA citizens who believed, and still believe, the democrats, and also the whole European ‘elite’, who counted on USA support in creating a USA clone in Europe, and hoped to force Russia into being also a Brussels vassal state, one way or another, militarily, or economically.

    Idiot Verhofstadt already years ago stated his hope that Russia would become a EU member state:
    Brussels ruling from the Atlantic to the Pacific, of course, in time, also subjugating China.

    White supremacy over all the world, the Washington Brussels axis.

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    • Replies: @El Dato

    Brussels ruling from the Atlantic to the Pacific, of course, in time, also subjugating China.
     
    A combination of demented financiers currently on the last gleaming to extract value from vapid paper shuffling as well as bureaucrats mostly occupied with their retirement plans and daily perks are supposed to become Dark Overlords of the continent?

    Shurely, a likely scenario.

    Actually, I do think Chinese cash-flush entities are currently buying most of Europe. Whitey will probably be living innawoods soon, together with the integratively-challenged Roma.

    , @RadicalCenter
    We can hardly call the EU white supremacist when it is aggressively and rapidly settling millions of culturally alien and incompatible Arab and African Muslims in their member countries, at the financial and physical expense of the actual white Europeans.
  11. @falcemartello
    Well what about AIPAC. This so-called ngo has a noose around al members of congress ,the senate and the TRUMP regime. But hell we can't mention them or else one could say you were anti-semitic. Orwellian time we are living.
    One thing is 4 sure Politics in pax-americas has not changed. Lobby groups run the country and all their people are deeply imbedded in all aspects of our government. Democracy died with Socrates. The Corporate State is alive and well and Mussolini wrote a paper on it LO STATO CORPORATO. Gramsci used to label Trotskyist as the whores of fascism in todays lexicon the globalist are modern day Trotskyist

    Indeed, who critises jews is an antisemite, and, as we all know, an antisemite is worse than a child murderer.

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  12. “Comey firing is a red herring to distract from the fact that Trump hasn’t started building the wall.” Sorry, Ann, and I want that wall as much as you do, babe, or very nearly as much; but that’s a stretch. I’m sticking with LBJ.

    Again, with the wall talk. I’m waiting for the first talking head to mention expanding or lengthening the wall. It exists you know; five hundred miles of it. Courtesy of Obama and others. Or rather you don’t know it exists if you get your information from anybody trying to make a point pro or con, the WALL. Jeeez.

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  13. El Dato says:
    @jilles dykstra
    If, IF, what I still hope, Trump really wants to change the USA course since Roosevelt, world domination by military force, of course there is a lot of opposition.

    Not just those for which Eisenhower already warned, the industrial military complex, but also the naive USA citizens who believed, and still believe, the democrats, and also the whole European 'elite', who counted on USA support in creating a USA clone in Europe, and hoped to force Russia into being also a Brussels vassal state, one way or another, militarily, or economically.

    Idiot Verhofstadt already years ago stated his hope that Russia would become a EU member state:
    Brussels ruling from the Atlantic to the Pacific, of course, in time, also subjugating China.

    White supremacy over all the world, the Washington Brussels axis.

    Brussels ruling from the Atlantic to the Pacific, of course, in time, also subjugating China.

    A combination of demented financiers currently on the last gleaming to extract value from vapid paper shuffling as well as bureaucrats mostly occupied with their retirement plans and daily perks are supposed to become Dark Overlords of the continent?

    Shurely, a likely scenario.

    Actually, I do think Chinese cash-flush entities are currently buying most of Europe. Whitey will probably be living innawoods soon, together with the integratively-challenged Roma.

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    Chinese seem to have bought large stretches of Ukraine fertile land.
    Who is buying French vineyards, not clear.
    Russians seem to own the best parts of London, along with Arab oil princes, of course.
    On the other hand, Dutch buy land galore in E Europe, in Poland Poles are worried because the grandchildren of the Germans who owned the estates ar buying them back, live there, and exploit them.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Your last prediction sounds like California. The way housing costs are going in LA and OC and beyond, I might have to move my family to the Angeles National Forest.
  14. @Jonathan Mason

    it wouldn’t have mattered a damn if there had been Russian attempts to interfere in our election.
     
    Precisely! The US tries to interfere in the elections of other countries all the time, most recently Obama was trying to interfere in the UK's Brexit vote. Are Americans such simps that they cannot decide for themselves for whom to vote when given a choice between such a pair of deplorables? (Rhetorical question.)

    But if this is really important to some people, perhaps the Russian ambassador should be captured and waterboarded so we can get the truth of the matter.

    Don’t you think there is a worthwhile distinction to be made between overt – even if subtle and a touch disinguous attempts to influence political outcomes in other coubtries and secret or wholly deceptive interventions, especially if they are intended to plant untruths in people’s minds or connfuse them about relevant facts?

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    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    No, because you only have to see any election season political commercial on TV to see attempts to confuse people about relevant facts. Actually, that would be a pretty good definition of what an election is! Obama's threat to give Britain unfavorable trading status if it voted for Brexit would be a good example.

    Anyway, the idea that Russians changed the election result in Trump's favor is as likely as the idea that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and that Dick Cheney knew where they were. American audiences never seem to tire of being lied to by politicians, and as soon as one lie is debunked, they move right on to the next one.

    If the Russians, or some Russians, were actually responsible for leaking e-mails of the Clinton campaign that revealed what Hillary was really thinking, then they did US voters a service, because it was pretty hard to figure out what Clinton really stood for during her election campaign. And even now. Having declared that Comey's interference had probably cost her the election, she is now ambivalent about whether he should be fired. I would like to see an e-mail leak to know what she really thinks. Right now she is like Bruce Jenner, who having publicly declared that he has had himself voluntarily castrated, cannot rightfully say whether he is sexually attracted to men, women, or neither.

  15. @Flavius
    Comey accepted the Clinton e-mail case under conditions that no 'reasonable' FBI Director should have: that it not be an investigation. If he had insisted that it be an investigation, and if it had been, there would have been no Clinton candidacy and absent a pardon, every liklihood that the Clintons today would be convicted felons. If he had been rebuffed and had resigned, he would have left the FBI as a hero. As it is, he is a goat, a dead goat, more road kill along the trail of the Clintons. Too bad!

    Very interesting. Can you give a link to a reliable source on Comey’s “acceptance” of the email case with unacceptable conditions attached?

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    • Replies: @Flavius
    No link necessary: if it doesn't lool like a duck, walk like a duck...etc. Consider: no FGJ empaneled, ie no transcripted testimony under oath - a clear sign of lack, indeed fatal lack, of prosecutorial support; no kick back on Clinton authorizing her private attorney to review server e mails for relevancy (whence came that authority?) There should have been a forthwith subpoena or a search warrant served on the law firm; multiple immunities, no indictments = no incentives to cooperate; subject interview in presence of several attorney's, one of whom had been given immunity in the instant case; followed by interview review over a couple of cups of coffee; followed by case nol prosed by incompetent authority accompanied by a stern chastising. WTF.
    Setting aside the failure to segue into the Clinton Foundation, a gross dereliction, the above doesn't even represent a decent counterfeit of what a serious Federal Investigation is supposed to look like. Comey was an experienced prosecutor. He could have drawn the line on this charade at any time. He didn't. It's on him. He tried to outrun the cloud but the cloud caught up to him in the end.
  16. Renoman says:

    No one outside the MSM press corp gives a rats ass about this jerk getting fired. If the boss doesn’t like you, out you go. Simple.

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  17. @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t know whether Trump Derangement Syndrome has reached Peak Hysteria yet, but this week it definitely attained what we math geeks call a “local maximum.”
     
    John, I really think that the left loves this kind of phraseology out of the conservative pundits. It plays right into their plan, or if not a real plan, their way of thinking, as explained here. Hysteria may be at a local maximum, but stupidity is nearing a global maximum.

    Listen, the same thing happened with GW Bush, and with the same terminology on "our" side. We say how deranged these people are for freaking out about a nominal conservative, the guy is hardly a conservative at all and doesn't do a whole lot to slow down the slide into socialism and decay, we feel better cause "if the left is freaking out so much, this guy must be A-OK!", then 4-8 years later it is "time for a change, cause that last guy was just too far right - bring on another Øb☭ma" !

    It's devious, it's odious, but it's been working great for the left for the last coupla decades. Don't fall for it. I'm gonna come up with a name for this shortly.

    Ahmed, there is NO “left” in America. Sure, there are a few bits & pieces of a left: Chomsky springs to mind (Moore looks Left, but he’s more PC/progressive, neither of which are Left, merely “liberals” who would tinker around a bit before quickly bending over for the Elites)
    As for the implication Derb’ makes that the whole MSM is Left….(“Out on the foam-flecked Left—which is to say, well-nigh all the Main Stream Media pundits and political EstablishmentI”) I mean…what ? The W-post, The WSJ, The NY Times etc etc are Left ? Oh please ! The MSM have been barking in support of Elites for 40 years at least. They are contra Trump on various self serving grounds, NONE of which include the welfare of average US citizens.
    On a more general note, I think Derb’s article is absolutely spot-on.

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    Respectfully, Mr. Logic, your reply is confusing the living hell out me. You say there is no "left", yet you just agreed that the LP supports the elites (MSM is an antiquated term; it is Lyin Press now, AL). Dude, you are something just over 40 years behind the times (and coincidentally, I swear, I put my "40" years down before noticing that was your number too!). The LP supports the elites because the elites are the left. How conservative are the Bushes, the Clintons, The Evil One, ManBearPig, Frau Markel, any of these bastards? They are "left" as a Trotsky, Mao, or Pol Pot is left.

    We may be arguing over terminology - "Liberals" to me are classically liberal, which is now called "Libertarian". If you substitute "Progressives " where I wrote " left", well that works for me.

    If you'd gone to my link, you'd have already gotten my point. Let me try to sum it up again - "they" like it when we call them deranged when, in fact, they are acting deranged about someone who is really just not allowing our slide to the left (socialism, globalism, all of it) to proceed as fast as it would with their guy ( or beast, as the case may be.)

    Otherwise I like and agree with the article, as I usually do.
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    You are right about the vanishing American Left, but Chomsky doesn't even count among its remnants. Like Sanders, he is ultimately little different from the conventional Jewish liberals who control the power structure that faux leftists claim to oppose.
  18. @falcemartello
    Well what about AIPAC. This so-called ngo has a noose around al members of congress ,the senate and the TRUMP regime. But hell we can't mention them or else one could say you were anti-semitic. Orwellian time we are living.
    One thing is 4 sure Politics in pax-americas has not changed. Lobby groups run the country and all their people are deeply imbedded in all aspects of our government. Democracy died with Socrates. The Corporate State is alive and well and Mussolini wrote a paper on it LO STATO CORPORATO. Gramsci used to label Trotskyist as the whores of fascism in todays lexicon the globalist are modern day Trotskyist

    “Well what about AIPAC.”[?]
    Oh yes, the Jupiter sized elephant in the room which NO ONE in the establishment can seem to see. No, better to jump on a chair, pull our skirts up, stamp our little feet rapidly up & down & scream about a Russian mouse in the room (at least, it MIGHT have been a Russian mouse…??)

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  19. Randal says:
    @Sean

    Not a sustainable position on any credible basis, I don’t think.

    To even begin to think along those lines you would have to do an awful lot of rewriting of history, basing Russian pre-election attitudes on events since Trump took office and not on attitudes and expectations prevalent during the campaign.
     
    The US president always has a huge power to stike , if they choose to use it. Russians had every right to expect that Clinton would have continued Obama's policy. Difficult to see what stable Russia-friendly policy Russians could have expected from an unpredictable loose cannon like Trump. Russians who wanted a character like Trump in charge of their US rival-- the most powerful nation on earth--were idiotic, especially as Trump said during the debates with Clinton that to be effective military action should come as a shock to those being targeted.

    Like I said, in order to even begin to defend Derbyshire’s position on that, you would need to rewrite history, exactly as you are doing here.

    In the real world, Obama’s policy was extremely unpleasant for the Russians (and for humanity as a whole, particular lobbies whose interests were served directly aside), and its only redeeming feature was that it was not quite as aggressively confrontational as the policies advocated by the Clinton wing “R2P” and other interventionists. In the real world, Trump held out the possibility of dealing with Russia sensibly and ending stupid regime change policies involving military and political aggression.

    That it hasn’t turned out that way in practice (though things might yet end up going that way in the longer run) is largely to do with how things have played out after the election, in terms of the absurdly hysterical torrent of Russophobic nonsense from the US establishment, and the kinds of people who seem to have gained the ear of the president once in office. It need not have gone the way it has, and indeed many still argue that underneath all the noise and lights it has not.

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    Obama asked Congress for a strike on Assad angot was denied it. He could have done it without asking, but didn't . The idea that Clinton would have ordered a strike without going to Congress is far fetched. And the Republicans were against Oba's strike so tyhey would have been against Clinton's

    Anyway , Trump does not go in for ineffective local proxies (McMaster his security advisor is clear that US troop are required to achieve anything). If Trump gets annoyed with Assad he will use US forces and crush Assad in a week.

    Assad is a hereditary dictator who inherited a Sunni majority country that had been ruled by a family Of Alawites for generations. If you have a forest and every time there is a fire you put it out, what happens is the flammable tinder accumulates and then you get an unstoppable conflagration. Assad suppressed all dissent, and consequently resentment had been piling up, one spark was enough, and the idiot young master Assad putting up the price of fuels was that spark. The Assads held total power by military force. Live by the sword.
  20. Svigor says:

    I’ve been saying for many years that “our” “civil society” (media culture, basically, plus other areas dominated by the left, like academia) is certifiably insane. That sounds like hyperbole to your typical nuthouse drone, but it’s true. The truth sounds like insanity to a madman (I’m sure someone smarter than me has put that better).

    Media anthropoids lie for a living, sure, but they’ve really got their legs now. It’s like they’re at a full-out run, while before they were just at a canter. They owe a lot to Trump, for letting them really do their jobs brazenly.

    Well what about AIPAC.

    Yeah. Forget about elections; how about influencing everything about American national politics? And I’m talking with mountains of cold, hard, cash, too, not some piddly little hacking op. And let’s not even get started about how deeply the Jewish-Israeli bloc has penetrated our national security.

    P.S., Flavius sums up the recent political life of Comey succinctly.

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  21. Agent76 says:

    Feb 1, 2017 Secrets Of The FBI Finally Revealed and Leaked

    In this video, we go over the latest FBI leak of thousands of documents to the intercept that revealed their secret rule book and operations. We go over what was found in those documents and the dangers of these powers that the FBI has.

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  22. @El Dato

    Brussels ruling from the Atlantic to the Pacific, of course, in time, also subjugating China.
     
    A combination of demented financiers currently on the last gleaming to extract value from vapid paper shuffling as well as bureaucrats mostly occupied with their retirement plans and daily perks are supposed to become Dark Overlords of the continent?

    Shurely, a likely scenario.

    Actually, I do think Chinese cash-flush entities are currently buying most of Europe. Whitey will probably be living innawoods soon, together with the integratively-challenged Roma.

    Chinese seem to have bought large stretches of Ukraine fertile land.
    Who is buying French vineyards, not clear.
    Russians seem to own the best parts of London, along with Arab oil princes, of course.
    On the other hand, Dutch buy land galore in E Europe, in Poland Poles are worried because the grandchildren of the Germans who owned the estates ar buying them back, live there, and exploit them.

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  23. Canute says:
    @Bijk
    "Atlantic editor David Frum called it “a coup against the FBI ” on Twitter. That one left me really confused. What, the FBI should be running the country, but Trump’s overthrown them?"

    If that left you confused, you should see Frum's response to Le Pen's loss: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/861286376863608832

    "Another consequence of Macron win: one of Western world’s most effective counter-intelligence cultures won’t be colonized by Moscow."

    "Colonization" is a weird term here, since you'd think the mass immigration from muslims and africans into France (in large part because Macron is a Merkel sycophant) would be more readily called "colonization", and that they're colonizing one of the West's greatest nations.

    Or even this- "The Conservative Case for Voting for Clinton": https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/dont-gamble-on-trump/506207/

    And this line: "But she is a patriot. She will uphold the sovereignty and independence of the United States. "

    How? By securing our southern border with cartel-run narco states, reducing legal immigration, not granting amnesty? Because she didn't want to do any of those things. Or does he mean saber-rattling against and going to war with boogeyman dictators like Saddam, Assad and Putin? I think it's that one.

    None of it's confusing at all when you consider David Frum is a dyed-in-the-wool neoconservative (warmongering globalist/remorseless sociopath) who's found a new audience among the spastic neoliberals that compose the establishment left.

    Frum is entirely familiar with “colonization” in the halls of power. Along with the Kagan/Nuland family, Max Boot, Jonah and countless other Goldbergs, he has been deeply involved in the placement of a new hive at the WH on a continuous basis for his entire career – just as directed.

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    Transplanted Canadian jooies like frummie are a particularly virulent strain of the virus.........having been cultured in the polite colonial pc petri dish to the north where there is no resistance at all to their self-serving machinations.
  24. geofromnj says:

    For Derbyshire to claim that Russia had nothing to do with Trump’s motivation, and that Trump simply wanted Comey to pledge allegiance, makes no sense absent the Russia investigation. If Comey was not investigating the Trump campaign vis a vis Russia, there would be no reason for Trump to question whether Comey was “on his side”.

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  25. @Wizard of Oz
    Don't you think there is a worthwhile distinction to be made between overt - even if subtle and a touch disinguous attempts to influence political outcomes in other coubtries and secret or wholly deceptive interventions, especially if they are intended to plant untruths in people's minds or connfuse them about relevant facts?

    No, because you only have to see any election season political commercial on TV to see attempts to confuse people about relevant facts. Actually, that would be a pretty good definition of what an election is! Obama’s threat to give Britain unfavorable trading status if it voted for Brexit would be a good example.

    Anyway, the idea that Russians changed the election result in Trump’s favor is as likely as the idea that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and that Dick Cheney knew where they were. American audiences never seem to tire of being lied to by politicians, and as soon as one lie is debunked, they move right on to the next one.

    If the Russians, or some Russians, were actually responsible for leaking e-mails of the Clinton campaign that revealed what Hillary was really thinking, then they did US voters a service, because it was pretty hard to figure out what Clinton really stood for during her election campaign. And even now. Having declared that Comey’s interference had probably cost her the election, she is now ambivalent about whether he should be fired. I would like to see an e-mail leak to know what she really thinks. Right now she is like Bruce Jenner, who having publicly declared that he has had himself voluntarily castrated, cannot rightfully say whether he is sexually attracted to men, women, or neither.

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    [Too many typos.]

    I would agree that is hard to take objection; on balance, to Russia disclosig truths about the Democrats without e.g. dumping a dishonèstly selected bunch of hacked dmails on election eve and so tok late to be answered.
  26. joe webb says:

    Peak Derangement is still to come. We are in a Cultural Revolution, which has been building for over half a century. It started in the 1920s with the communist revolution in Russia. The extant Darwinian social science was overthrown by Jews like Franz Boas in the US, with a fair amount of help from One-Worlder whites, who were subverted by White Altruism and communists like Boas, and a whole clutch of Jews assaulting the barricades of White Racialists trying to keep the US White in the context of Immigration debates at that time…which led to the 1924 Immigration Act which did pretty much keep the US White.

    The jews and their wide-eyed White Dreamers finally got the 1965 immigration act, which is why we are now in the midst of Invasion by low-life. Race Equality Ecstaticism

    The descendants of Puritans became the useful idiots for the Jews…it all started back in Abolitionist pre Civil War times. Liberal Christianity somehow morphed the illiberal Puritans into saps of Luv-Everybody.

    So…See Dick and Jane dance for Luv Everybody. See it in the periodic Ecstatic Revolts of Protestant revivals in the US.

    Globalism is a One Worldism of Ultimate Ecstatic delusion. Since everybody needs to make money, both reasonably as well as obsessively, individual anxiety abounds in the newish world order. It is celebrated by the grifters, but doubted by the normals, the people who have regular jobs. They are nervous, they Doubt, and they voted for Trump.

    The Race Equality Myth is an Absolute for Globalism. Salute and gush for it…the guarantor of admission to the ranks of the Ambitious, as well as just the folks who want to survive a middle or upper middle life.

    The psychological threat to the One Worldist economy as well as its Ideology of Race Equality, is perceived in Trumpism. He is the devil, the Great Discouraging Word guy, who says, bull shit.

    Eschatology today is One World of Consumers and May Pole dancers, like the hippie revolt of the 60s, another Ecstatic Movement, secular of course, but spawning more religious sects, particularly from India, cults of Rock n Roll, Civil Rights for the Uncivil, another cult of feminism which got its start in the ’20s (same old ), and of course Third World Liberation/Decoloniztion.

    The New Left’s Ecstatic cult was expressed in Todd Gitlan’s book on the 60s. Divine Delirium was his term for One Wordism and race equality, with Jews a bit more equal. I further remember crashing a talk of his wherein he described the trajectory of the New Left as moving into the Institutions, etc, and that he was observing it , like a pig in a python, moving along.

    I remarked that it was more like a pig turning to snake shit.

    So, then also, the New Age Follies were also spawned by the 60s …all of it Ecstatic, like Protestant sect revivalism.

    Trump has uttered, bah, humbug to all of this. Kill the Pig….Lord of the Flies. Trump is the pig. The adults come along in Lord…and collar the Boys, ending their ecstatic blood lust.

    Do we have any adults? Trump himself has a bit of
    romance in him….the economy is going to soar into high gear. Maybe.

    Whites seem to be only race to get ourselves worked up over presumably secular ideas. Religious wars are behind us but the new ‘religion’ of Race Equality, which is supposed to be secular, is not. There is zero Reason in the Liberals. All the Science and general evidence , here and world-wide, refuses the Myth of Radial Equality. The Race Revolution is dead. Long live the Revolution.
    Divine Delirium.
    —-
    wait ’till the civil war gets into high gear…nothing like ecstasy leading to agony….and maybe ultimately to sobriety. Or is that just naive too?

    Joe Webb

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  27. @Jonathan Mason
    No, because you only have to see any election season political commercial on TV to see attempts to confuse people about relevant facts. Actually, that would be a pretty good definition of what an election is! Obama's threat to give Britain unfavorable trading status if it voted for Brexit would be a good example.

    Anyway, the idea that Russians changed the election result in Trump's favor is as likely as the idea that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and that Dick Cheney knew where they were. American audiences never seem to tire of being lied to by politicians, and as soon as one lie is debunked, they move right on to the next one.

    If the Russians, or some Russians, were actually responsible for leaking e-mails of the Clinton campaign that revealed what Hillary was really thinking, then they did US voters a service, because it was pretty hard to figure out what Clinton really stood for during her election campaign. And even now. Having declared that Comey's interference had probably cost her the election, she is now ambivalent about whether he should be fired. I would like to see an e-mail leak to know what she really thinks. Right now she is like Bruce Jenner, who having publicly declared that he has had himself voluntarily castrated, cannot rightfully say whether he is sexually attracted to men, women, or neither.

    [Too many typos.]

    I would agree that is hard to take objection; on balance, to Russia disclosig truths about the Democrats without e.g. dumping a dishonèstly selected bunch of hacked dmails on election eve and so tok late to be answered.

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  28. @animalogic
    Ahmed, there is NO "left" in America. Sure, there are a few bits & pieces of a left: Chomsky springs to mind (Moore looks Left, but he's more PC/progressive, neither of which are Left, merely "liberals" who would tinker around a bit before quickly bending over for the Elites)
    As for the implication Derb' makes that the whole MSM is Left....("Out on the foam-flecked Left—which is to say, well-nigh all the Main Stream Media pundits and political EstablishmentI") I mean...what ? The W-post, The WSJ, The NY Times etc etc are Left ? Oh please ! The MSM have been barking in support of Elites for 40 years at least. They are contra Trump on various self serving grounds, NONE of which include the welfare of average US citizens.
    On a more general note, I think Derb's article is absolutely spot-on.

    Respectfully, Mr. Logic, your reply is confusing the living hell out me. You say there is no “left”, yet you just agreed that the LP supports the elites (MSM is an antiquated term; it is Lyin Press now, AL). Dude, you are something just over 40 years behind the times (and coincidentally, I swear, I put my “40″ years down before noticing that was your number too!). The LP supports the elites because the elites are the left. How conservative are the Bushes, the Clintons, The Evil One, ManBearPig, Frau Markel, any of these bastards? They are “left” as a Trotsky, Mao, or Pol Pot is left.

    We may be arguing over terminology – “Liberals” to me are classically liberal, which is now called “Libertarian”. If you substitute “Progressives ” where I wrote ” left”, well that works for me.

    If you’d gone to my link, you’d have already gotten my point. Let me try to sum it up again – “they” like it when we call them deranged when, in fact, they are acting deranged about someone who is really just not allowing our slide to the left (socialism, globalism, all of it) to proceed as fast as it would with their guy ( or beast, as the case may be.)

    Otherwise I like and agree with the article, as I usually do.

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    "How conservative are the Bushes, the Clintons, The Evil One, ManBearPig, Frau Markel, any of these bastards? They are “left” as a Trotsky, Mao, or Pol Pot is left."
    "If you substitute “Progressives ” where I wrote ” left”, well that works for me."
    Sorry, doesn't work for me. Crapping on about diversity, micro aggressions, trans-toilets & gay marriage etc etc doesn't make you Left, it makes you a Wanker who sees nothing except puddles where oceans exist.
    The "Left" if it means anything at a minimum it is: anti-imperialist & committed to transitioning society from capitalism to socialism.
    On that definition, the Clinton's & Trotsky have nothing in common.
  29. Flavius says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Very interesting. Can you give a link to a reliable source on Comey's "acceptance" of the email case with unacceptable conditions attached?

    No link necessary: if it doesn’t lool like a duck, walk like a duck…etc. Consider: no FGJ empaneled, ie no transcripted testimony under oath – a clear sign of lack, indeed fatal lack, of prosecutorial support; no kick back on Clinton authorizing her private attorney to review server e mails for relevancy (whence came that authority?) There should have been a forthwith subpoena or a search warrant served on the law firm; multiple immunities, no indictments = no incentives to cooperate; subject interview in presence of several attorney’s, one of whom had been given immunity in the instant case; followed by interview review over a couple of cups of coffee; followed by case nol prosed by incompetent authority accompanied by a stern chastising. WTF.
    Setting aside the failure to segue into the Clinton Foundation, a gross dereliction, the above doesn’t even represent a decent counterfeit of what a serious Federal Investigation is supposed to look like. Comey was an experienced prosecutor. He could have drawn the line on this charade at any time. He didn’t. It’s on him. He tried to outrun the cloud but the cloud caught up to him in the end.

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  30. Agent76 says:

    Jan 3, 2017 With Rule 41 the FBI Is Now Officially the Enemy of All Computer Users

    Rick Falkvinge, founder of the original pirate party and head of privacy at PrivateInternetAccess com, joins us to discuss his recent article, “Today, the FBI becomes the enemy of every computer user and every IT security professional worldwide.” We dissect the new “Rule 41″ that gives American law enforcement unprecedented leeway to break into any computer in the world, the implications this has for a world in which privacy is increasingly a thing of the past, and what people can do to protect themselves from the New Online Order of global FBI operations.

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  31. nsa says:
    @Canute
    Frum is entirely familiar with "colonization" in the halls of power. Along with the Kagan/Nuland family, Max Boot, Jonah and countless other Goldbergs, he has been deeply involved in the placement of a new hive at the WH on a continuous basis for his entire career - just as directed.

    Transplanted Canadian jooies like frummie are a particularly virulent strain of the virus………having been cultured in the polite colonial pc petri dish to the north where there is no resistance at all to their self-serving machinations.

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  32. Z-man says:

    Heading this article David Frum-stein, a vermin I wish nothing but ill will to. George W. Bush should be flogged just for having this F-stein write his speeches.

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    Frum and Bill "Replace the White Working Class with Mexicans" Kristol are up there as some of the most viscerally loathsome neocons out there IMO. Utterly shameless, remorseless, sociopathic filth. I think this selection of tweets is one of the best portraits of the kind of irredeemable trash Frum is (though I'm sure there's more).

    Saying Jonathan Gruber (I think?) should kill himself: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/542349722951098368

    “Mr. Gruber, we’re going to leave you alone with a bottle of whisky and a loaded pistol. We trust you’ll do the honorable thing.”

    A couple of years later, blaming the Iraqis purely for why their country fell apart after the catastrophic war he helped push for: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/750649573245329408

    "US-UK intervention offered Iraq a better future. Whatever West's mistakes: sectarian war was a choice Iraqis made for themselves."

    A few months later, Frum pontificating on honesty: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/776989083256156160

    "14) Do you live by truth or by lies? Do you change your mind because you’ve discovered new facts - or because you’ve received new orders?"

    A month later, saying Trump should kill himself the same way he did Gruber (but that Trump would shoot you instead, if you gave him a gun to do it): https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/785143687374340100

    "Leave Trump alone with a bottle of whisky, revolver, and advice to do “the honorable thing” - & he’ll shoot you in the face when you return"

    I'm sure there's more where that came from though.

    Personally, I think the honorable thing would be to extradite Frum, Kristol, and all the other neocon cockroaches to Iraq, and let them have their way with them. Or maybe just drop them off in the middle of Baghdad.

  33. Sean says:
    @Randal
    Like I said, in order to even begin to defend Derbyshire's position on that, you would need to rewrite history, exactly as you are doing here.

    In the real world, Obama's policy was extremely unpleasant for the Russians (and for humanity as a whole, particular lobbies whose interests were served directly aside), and its only redeeming feature was that it was not quite as aggressively confrontational as the policies advocated by the Clinton wing "R2P" and other interventionists. In the real world, Trump held out the possibility of dealing with Russia sensibly and ending stupid regime change policies involving military and political aggression.

    That it hasn't turned out that way in practice (though things might yet end up going that way in the longer run) is largely to do with how things have played out after the election, in terms of the absurdly hysterical torrent of Russophobic nonsense from the US establishment, and the kinds of people who seem to have gained the ear of the president once in office. It need not have gone the way it has, and indeed many still argue that underneath all the noise and lights it has not.

    Obama asked Congress for a strike on Assad angot was denied it. He could have done it without asking, but didn’t . The idea that Clinton would have ordered a strike without going to Congress is far fetched. And the Republicans were against Oba’s strike so tyhey would have been against Clinton’s

    Anyway , Trump does not go in for ineffective local proxies (McMaster his security advisor is clear that US troop are required to achieve anything). If Trump gets annoyed with Assad he will use US forces and crush Assad in a week.

    Assad is a hereditary dictator who inherited a Sunni majority country that had been ruled by a family Of Alawites for generations. If you have a forest and every time there is a fire you put it out, what happens is the flammable tinder accumulates and then you get an unstoppable conflagration. Assad suppressed all dissent, and consequently resentment had been piling up, one spark was enough, and the idiot young master Assad putting up the price of fuels was that spark. The Assads held total power by military force. Live by the sword.

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    Live by the sword.
     
    Who, the US regime or the Syrian regime ? And yes, this was rhetorical.
    , @alexander
    Hi Sean,

    There was a recounting posted by a G.I. who had served two terms in Iraq, that tells an entirely different story than yours.

    On some of his early paid leaves, he decided to spend his "down time" in Syria. I think he got a small apartment in Aleppo...He says Syria was a wonderful place...He says everybody..from Sunnis to Alawites,... from Shias to Christians..all got along just fine....They all did agreed that Assad was a dictator...but, according to our servicemans accounting, Assad was very much "hands off"....and people went about their business with minimal interference from the regime.

    Our G.I. said he was allowed to carry an open beer bottle..and drink it in the street...without any fuss....He say shopkeepers who were Sunni worked right beside shopkeepers who weren't...and there was no tension .......Nada....everyone got along great.

    Our G.I. was so impressed by Aleppo that after he completed his tours in Iraq,he decided to KEEP his apartment there. He went home to Texas, but he would return to Syria on his vacations...he adored it...he said the people,..".all the people".... were wonderful...and the country was absolutely beautiful...

    After 2011, and the brutal dismemberment of Syria began, he was heartbroken at the destruction of the people and the country.....absolutely heartbroken....

    After a few years he simply could not go back, he says the evil of the wars taking place was tearing everything apart.....and that it was truly abysmal to witness.

    The greatest tragedy he had ever seen.

    I also recall , Sean,watching a televised roundtable discussion on "Syria" in 2010 before the fiasco began. There were about 20 (or so) "experts" each voicing their own "expert" views. I was watching this for almost forty minutes....and then a woman in her mid fifties, sitting in the audience...stood up...and spoke.

    She said she was Syrian, that she loved her country, that she did not think all that much of Assad but that she was also sure that his remaining in power was a thousand times more favorable, to her , and everyone she knew, than to have happen to "Syria" what happened to "Iraq".

    , @JamesForrestal
    Exactly. Why can't people understand that rule by warring bands of internationally-recruited Salafist mercenaries is far preferable to Assad's regime? Why, just look at how well it worked out in Libya! They just need to understand that no sacrifice is too great when it comes to whatever is promoted by the legacy media as the cause of muh freedom and democracy in other countries.
  34. Why should I care about that, why should any funds of the $20.000.000.000.000 in debt US Feral gov’t be used to bomb, rocket, bombard, strafe, or invade that country, and why should any Americans get killed or maimed because of what you just said?

    You go over there and take care of the problem yourself, Sean, OK?!

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  35. Bijk says:
    @Z-man
    Heading this article David Frum-stein, a vermin I wish nothing but ill will to. George W. Bush should be flogged just for having this F-stein write his speeches.

    Frum and Bill “Replace the White Working Class with Mexicans” Kristol are up there as some of the most viscerally loathsome neocons out there IMO. Utterly shameless, remorseless, sociopathic filth. I think this selection of tweets is one of the best portraits of the kind of irredeemable trash Frum is (though I’m sure there’s more).

    Saying Jonathan Gruber (I think?) should kill himself: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/542349722951098368

    “Mr. Gruber, we’re going to leave you alone with a bottle of whisky and a loaded pistol. We trust you’ll do the honorable thing.”

    A couple of years later, blaming the Iraqis purely for why their country fell apart after the catastrophic war he helped push for: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/750649573245329408

    “US-UK intervention offered Iraq a better future. Whatever West’s mistakes: sectarian war was a choice Iraqis made for themselves.”

    A few months later, Frum pontificating on honesty: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/776989083256156160

    “14) Do you live by truth or by lies? Do you change your mind because you’ve discovered new facts – or because you’ve received new orders?”

    A month later, saying Trump should kill himself the same way he did Gruber (but that Trump would shoot you instead, if you gave him a gun to do it): https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/785143687374340100

    “Leave Trump alone with a bottle of whisky, revolver, and advice to do “the honorable thing” – & he’ll shoot you in the face when you return”

    I’m sure there’s more where that came from though.

    Personally, I think the honorable thing would be to extradite Frum, Kristol, and all the other neocon cockroaches to Iraq, and let them have their way with them. Or maybe just drop them off in the middle of Baghdad.

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    Also, the Trump derangement syndrome is really fascinating in regards to the newfound popularity Frum and other neocons have among the left. It's pretty obvious it goes above and beyond "Trump is so awful, he makes Bush preferable in comparison", there really honestly seems to be a reevaluation towards people the left used to (rightfully) regard as war criminals. It seems to be a mix of various things- Bush and his cabinet falling out of the spotlight for so many years, becoming used to/indifferent/tolerant of such things when Obama turned out to be a neoliberal warmonger (and Clinton even moreso) and the fact many liberals are simply devoid of any real intellectual honesty, integrity, or principles, and many of them will ultimately support a war as long as the right people are pushing for it (or if it's the right target- it really goes without saying a central reason why the left hates Russia so much is because they're a highly conservative, repressive country that also happens to be white*). That's why we're now seeing insanity like this: http://nypost.com/2017/01/28/after-years-of-liberal-hate-george-w-bush-is-getting-the-respect-he-deserves/

    And some degree of integrity among the left (putting aside the article decrying Trump's criticism of Islam or implying Bush's deportations were a bad thing) like this is seemingly all but gone: http://mancunion.com/2017/03/17/newfound-popularity-president-bush/

    *And for that, I've come across incredible things, like liberals actually trying to argue Russia is more repressive than the majority of the muslim world, and equal to or worse (in terms of social repression) than Russia. And the breathtaking cognitive dissonance of screaming about Russia's alleged interference and concern for our national sovereignty with them while embracing mass immigration, open borders, amnesty and Islam. Especially if it comes to Mexico, a country that has done far worse to us than Russia (and is responsible for the deaths of far more journalists than Putin, a favorite of liberals/neocons on why Putin is The Other Modern Literal Hitler), has had far more complicity to these things in our government than what the Trump-Russia hysteria suggests, and is by every basic measure a bigger direct threat.

    , @Z-man

    Personally, I think the honorable thing would be to extradite Frum, Kristol, and all the other neocon cockroaches to Iraq, and let them have their way with them. Or maybe just drop them off in the middle of Baghdad.
     
    That would be a prayer answered. (Grin)
    You reminded my of the time, not long ago, when both Crum err I mean Frum and Grover Norquist were on the same panel with naïve John Dickerson on Face The Nation. Now whatever you may think of Norquist he, at least, is not a Neocon. The pained/disgusted looks he was giving (F)Crum were 'priceless'.
  36. Bijk says:
    @Bijk
    Frum and Bill "Replace the White Working Class with Mexicans" Kristol are up there as some of the most viscerally loathsome neocons out there IMO. Utterly shameless, remorseless, sociopathic filth. I think this selection of tweets is one of the best portraits of the kind of irredeemable trash Frum is (though I'm sure there's more).

    Saying Jonathan Gruber (I think?) should kill himself: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/542349722951098368

    “Mr. Gruber, we’re going to leave you alone with a bottle of whisky and a loaded pistol. We trust you’ll do the honorable thing.”

    A couple of years later, blaming the Iraqis purely for why their country fell apart after the catastrophic war he helped push for: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/750649573245329408

    "US-UK intervention offered Iraq a better future. Whatever West's mistakes: sectarian war was a choice Iraqis made for themselves."

    A few months later, Frum pontificating on honesty: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/776989083256156160

    "14) Do you live by truth or by lies? Do you change your mind because you’ve discovered new facts - or because you’ve received new orders?"

    A month later, saying Trump should kill himself the same way he did Gruber (but that Trump would shoot you instead, if you gave him a gun to do it): https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/785143687374340100

    "Leave Trump alone with a bottle of whisky, revolver, and advice to do “the honorable thing” - & he’ll shoot you in the face when you return"

    I'm sure there's more where that came from though.

    Personally, I think the honorable thing would be to extradite Frum, Kristol, and all the other neocon cockroaches to Iraq, and let them have their way with them. Or maybe just drop them off in the middle of Baghdad.

    Also, the Trump derangement syndrome is really fascinating in regards to the newfound popularity Frum and other neocons have among the left. It’s pretty obvious it goes above and beyond “Trump is so awful, he makes Bush preferable in comparison”, there really honestly seems to be a reevaluation towards people the left used to (rightfully) regard as war criminals. It seems to be a mix of various things- Bush and his cabinet falling out of the spotlight for so many years, becoming used to/indifferent/tolerant of such things when Obama turned out to be a neoliberal warmonger (and Clinton even moreso) and the fact many liberals are simply devoid of any real intellectual honesty, integrity, or principles, and many of them will ultimately support a war as long as the right people are pushing for it (or if it’s the right target- it really goes without saying a central reason why the left hates Russia so much is because they’re a highly conservative, repressive country that also happens to be white*). That’s why we’re now seeing insanity like this: http://nypost.com/2017/01/28/after-years-of-liberal-hate-george-w-bush-is-getting-the-respect-he-deserves/

    And some degree of integrity among the left (putting aside the article decrying Trump’s criticism of Islam or implying Bush’s deportations were a bad thing) like this is seemingly all but gone: http://mancunion.com/2017/03/17/newfound-popularity-president-bush/

    *And for that, I’ve come across incredible things, like liberals actually trying to argue Russia is more repressive than the majority of the muslim world, and equal to or worse (in terms of social repression) than Russia. And the breathtaking cognitive dissonance of screaming about Russia’s alleged interference and concern for our national sovereignty with them while embracing mass immigration, open borders, amnesty and Islam. Especially if it comes to Mexico, a country that has done far worse to us than Russia (and is responsible for the deaths of far more journalists than Putin, a favorite of liberals/neocons on why Putin is The Other Modern Literal Hitler), has had far more complicity to these things in our government than what the Trump-Russia hysteria suggests, and is by every basic measure a bigger direct threat.

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    Yes, but it also just proves that they're all dancing to the same globalist, Satanic tune.
  37. @Bijk
    "Atlantic editor David Frum called it “a coup against the FBI ” on Twitter. That one left me really confused. What, the FBI should be running the country, but Trump’s overthrown them?"

    If that left you confused, you should see Frum's response to Le Pen's loss: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/861286376863608832

    "Another consequence of Macron win: one of Western world’s most effective counter-intelligence cultures won’t be colonized by Moscow."

    "Colonization" is a weird term here, since you'd think the mass immigration from muslims and africans into France (in large part because Macron is a Merkel sycophant) would be more readily called "colonization", and that they're colonizing one of the West's greatest nations.

    Or even this- "The Conservative Case for Voting for Clinton": https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/dont-gamble-on-trump/506207/

    And this line: "But she is a patriot. She will uphold the sovereignty and independence of the United States. "

    How? By securing our southern border with cartel-run narco states, reducing legal immigration, not granting amnesty? Because she didn't want to do any of those things. Or does he mean saber-rattling against and going to war with boogeyman dictators like Saddam, Assad and Putin? I think it's that one.

    None of it's confusing at all when you consider David Frum is a dyed-in-the-wool neoconservative (warmongering globalist/remorseless sociopath) who's found a new audience among the spastic neoliberals that compose the establishment left.

    David Frum is an Israel-Firster. Understand that, then his writings become quite clear.

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  38. @animalogic
    Ahmed, there is NO "left" in America. Sure, there are a few bits & pieces of a left: Chomsky springs to mind (Moore looks Left, but he's more PC/progressive, neither of which are Left, merely "liberals" who would tinker around a bit before quickly bending over for the Elites)
    As for the implication Derb' makes that the whole MSM is Left....("Out on the foam-flecked Left—which is to say, well-nigh all the Main Stream Media pundits and political EstablishmentI") I mean...what ? The W-post, The WSJ, The NY Times etc etc are Left ? Oh please ! The MSM have been barking in support of Elites for 40 years at least. They are contra Trump on various self serving grounds, NONE of which include the welfare of average US citizens.
    On a more general note, I think Derb's article is absolutely spot-on.

    You are right about the vanishing American Left, but Chomsky doesn’t even count among its remnants. Like Sanders, he is ultimately little different from the conventional Jewish liberals who control the power structure that faux leftists claim to oppose.

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  39. neutral says:
    @Sean
    Obama asked Congress for a strike on Assad angot was denied it. He could have done it without asking, but didn't . The idea that Clinton would have ordered a strike without going to Congress is far fetched. And the Republicans were against Oba's strike so tyhey would have been against Clinton's

    Anyway , Trump does not go in for ineffective local proxies (McMaster his security advisor is clear that US troop are required to achieve anything). If Trump gets annoyed with Assad he will use US forces and crush Assad in a week.

    Assad is a hereditary dictator who inherited a Sunni majority country that had been ruled by a family Of Alawites for generations. If you have a forest and every time there is a fire you put it out, what happens is the flammable tinder accumulates and then you get an unstoppable conflagration. Assad suppressed all dissent, and consequently resentment had been piling up, one spark was enough, and the idiot young master Assad putting up the price of fuels was that spark. The Assads held total power by military force. Live by the sword.

    Live by the sword.

    Who, the US regime or the Syrian regime ? And yes, this was rhetorical.

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  40. alexander says:
    @Sean
    Obama asked Congress for a strike on Assad angot was denied it. He could have done it without asking, but didn't . The idea that Clinton would have ordered a strike without going to Congress is far fetched. And the Republicans were against Oba's strike so tyhey would have been against Clinton's

    Anyway , Trump does not go in for ineffective local proxies (McMaster his security advisor is clear that US troop are required to achieve anything). If Trump gets annoyed with Assad he will use US forces and crush Assad in a week.

    Assad is a hereditary dictator who inherited a Sunni majority country that had been ruled by a family Of Alawites for generations. If you have a forest and every time there is a fire you put it out, what happens is the flammable tinder accumulates and then you get an unstoppable conflagration. Assad suppressed all dissent, and consequently resentment had been piling up, one spark was enough, and the idiot young master Assad putting up the price of fuels was that spark. The Assads held total power by military force. Live by the sword.

    Hi Sean,

    There was a recounting posted by a G.I. who had served two terms in Iraq, that tells an entirely different story than yours.

    On some of his early paid leaves, he decided to spend his “down time” in Syria. I think he got a small apartment in Aleppo…He says Syria was a wonderful place…He says everybody..from Sunnis to Alawites,… from Shias to Christians..all got along just fine….They all did agreed that Assad was a dictator…but, according to our servicemans accounting, Assad was very much “hands off”….and people went about their business with minimal interference from the regime.

    Our G.I. said he was allowed to carry an open beer bottle..and drink it in the street…without any fuss….He say shopkeepers who were Sunni worked right beside shopkeepers who weren’t…and there was no tension …….Nada….everyone got along great.

    Our G.I. was so impressed by Aleppo that after he completed his tours in Iraq,he decided to KEEP his apartment there. He went home to Texas, but he would return to Syria on his vacations…he adored it…he said the people,..”.all the people”…. were wonderful…and the country was absolutely beautiful…

    After 2011, and the brutal dismemberment of Syria began, he was heartbroken at the destruction of the people and the country…..absolutely heartbroken….

    After a few years he simply could not go back, he says the evil of the wars taking place was tearing everything apart…..and that it was truly abysmal to witness.

    The greatest tragedy he had ever seen.

    I also recall , Sean,watching a televised roundtable discussion on “Syria” in 2010 before the fiasco began. There were about 20 (or so) “experts” each voicing their own “expert” views. I was watching this for almost forty minutes….and then a woman in her mid fifties, sitting in the audience…stood up…and spoke.

    She said she was Syrian, that she loved her country, that she did not think all that much of Assad but that she was also sure that his remaining in power was a thousand times more favorable, to her , and everyone she knew, than to have happen to “Syria” what happened to “Iraq”.

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  41. Z-man says:
    @Bijk
    Frum and Bill "Replace the White Working Class with Mexicans" Kristol are up there as some of the most viscerally loathsome neocons out there IMO. Utterly shameless, remorseless, sociopathic filth. I think this selection of tweets is one of the best portraits of the kind of irredeemable trash Frum is (though I'm sure there's more).

    Saying Jonathan Gruber (I think?) should kill himself: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/542349722951098368

    “Mr. Gruber, we’re going to leave you alone with a bottle of whisky and a loaded pistol. We trust you’ll do the honorable thing.”

    A couple of years later, blaming the Iraqis purely for why their country fell apart after the catastrophic war he helped push for: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/750649573245329408

    "US-UK intervention offered Iraq a better future. Whatever West's mistakes: sectarian war was a choice Iraqis made for themselves."

    A few months later, Frum pontificating on honesty: https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/776989083256156160

    "14) Do you live by truth or by lies? Do you change your mind because you’ve discovered new facts - or because you’ve received new orders?"

    A month later, saying Trump should kill himself the same way he did Gruber (but that Trump would shoot you instead, if you gave him a gun to do it): https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/785143687374340100

    "Leave Trump alone with a bottle of whisky, revolver, and advice to do “the honorable thing” - & he’ll shoot you in the face when you return"

    I'm sure there's more where that came from though.

    Personally, I think the honorable thing would be to extradite Frum, Kristol, and all the other neocon cockroaches to Iraq, and let them have their way with them. Or maybe just drop them off in the middle of Baghdad.

    Personally, I think the honorable thing would be to extradite Frum, Kristol, and all the other neocon cockroaches to Iraq, and let them have their way with them. Or maybe just drop them off in the middle of Baghdad.

    That would be a prayer answered. (Grin)
    You reminded my of the time, not long ago, when both Crum err I mean Frum and Grover Norquist were on the same panel with naïve John Dickerson on Face The Nation. Now whatever you may think of Norquist he, at least, is not a Neocon. The pained/disgusted looks he was giving (F)Crum were ‘priceless’.

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    Is there video of this available? When was this exactly?
  42. Z-man says:
    @Bijk
    Also, the Trump derangement syndrome is really fascinating in regards to the newfound popularity Frum and other neocons have among the left. It's pretty obvious it goes above and beyond "Trump is so awful, he makes Bush preferable in comparison", there really honestly seems to be a reevaluation towards people the left used to (rightfully) regard as war criminals. It seems to be a mix of various things- Bush and his cabinet falling out of the spotlight for so many years, becoming used to/indifferent/tolerant of such things when Obama turned out to be a neoliberal warmonger (and Clinton even moreso) and the fact many liberals are simply devoid of any real intellectual honesty, integrity, or principles, and many of them will ultimately support a war as long as the right people are pushing for it (or if it's the right target- it really goes without saying a central reason why the left hates Russia so much is because they're a highly conservative, repressive country that also happens to be white*). That's why we're now seeing insanity like this: http://nypost.com/2017/01/28/after-years-of-liberal-hate-george-w-bush-is-getting-the-respect-he-deserves/

    And some degree of integrity among the left (putting aside the article decrying Trump's criticism of Islam or implying Bush's deportations were a bad thing) like this is seemingly all but gone: http://mancunion.com/2017/03/17/newfound-popularity-president-bush/

    *And for that, I've come across incredible things, like liberals actually trying to argue Russia is more repressive than the majority of the muslim world, and equal to or worse (in terms of social repression) than Russia. And the breathtaking cognitive dissonance of screaming about Russia's alleged interference and concern for our national sovereignty with them while embracing mass immigration, open borders, amnesty and Islam. Especially if it comes to Mexico, a country that has done far worse to us than Russia (and is responsible for the deaths of far more journalists than Putin, a favorite of liberals/neocons on why Putin is The Other Modern Literal Hitler), has had far more complicity to these things in our government than what the Trump-Russia hysteria suggests, and is by every basic measure a bigger direct threat.

    Yes, but it also just proves that they’re all dancing to the same globalist, Satanic tune.

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  43. Bijk says:
    @Z-man

    Personally, I think the honorable thing would be to extradite Frum, Kristol, and all the other neocon cockroaches to Iraq, and let them have their way with them. Or maybe just drop them off in the middle of Baghdad.
     
    That would be a prayer answered. (Grin)
    You reminded my of the time, not long ago, when both Crum err I mean Frum and Grover Norquist were on the same panel with naïve John Dickerson on Face The Nation. Now whatever you may think of Norquist he, at least, is not a Neocon. The pained/disgusted looks he was giving (F)Crum were 'priceless'.

    Is there video of this available? When was this exactly?

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    The Face The Nation segment with those two was on approx. 4-8 weeks ago, sorry that's the best I can do. Maybe search the Face The Nation site.
  44. OT, but here’s a very interesting article describing the use of “white left” in derision on Chinese internet boards:

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaliberties/chenchen-zhang/curious-rise-of-white-left-as-chinese-internet-insult

    The author of the piece herself subscribes to the usual PC pieties, and can’t seem to understand how so many Chinese could fall in with this attitude toward our identity politics. It never seems to occur to her that it’s possible that it is the left in American and Europe that’s lost the thread of civilization and common sense, and not most Chinese (and, of course, most other nations in East Asia, Eastern Europe, etc.)

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    "It never seems to occur to her that it’s possible that it is the left in American and Europe that’s lost the thread of civilization and common sense, and not most Chinese."

    I don't disagree, but I think it can be looked at from a somewhat different standpoint.

    How about if you read it again, while asking yourself "Is the writer at any point considering whether this concept has any real world validity or empirical support? Or is she simply analyzing it as potential threat to the progressive establishment narrative, with a view to generating counter-propaganda?" Because it appears to me that the author is not engaging in reality testing at any point in this piece.

    It appears that, to the author, "truth" is measured in terms of consistency with the narrative. Objective reality is simply not a consideration in her view. Try looking at it that way. What do you think?
  45. Svigor says:

    Bijk says:
    May 14, 2017 at 7:32 pm GMT • 300 Words

    That’s a pretty long way to say leftist mouthpieces are mostly sociopaths with no principles to speak of.

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  46. @Achmed E. Newman
    Respectfully, Mr. Logic, your reply is confusing the living hell out me. You say there is no "left", yet you just agreed that the LP supports the elites (MSM is an antiquated term; it is Lyin Press now, AL). Dude, you are something just over 40 years behind the times (and coincidentally, I swear, I put my "40" years down before noticing that was your number too!). The LP supports the elites because the elites are the left. How conservative are the Bushes, the Clintons, The Evil One, ManBearPig, Frau Markel, any of these bastards? They are "left" as a Trotsky, Mao, or Pol Pot is left.

    We may be arguing over terminology - "Liberals" to me are classically liberal, which is now called "Libertarian". If you substitute "Progressives " where I wrote " left", well that works for me.

    If you'd gone to my link, you'd have already gotten my point. Let me try to sum it up again - "they" like it when we call them deranged when, in fact, they are acting deranged about someone who is really just not allowing our slide to the left (socialism, globalism, all of it) to proceed as fast as it would with their guy ( or beast, as the case may be.)

    Otherwise I like and agree with the article, as I usually do.

    “How conservative are the Bushes, the Clintons, The Evil One, ManBearPig, Frau Markel, any of these bastards? They are “left” as a Trotsky, Mao, or Pol Pot is left.”
    “If you substitute “Progressives ” where I wrote ” left”, well that works for me.”
    Sorry, doesn’t work for me. Crapping on about diversity, micro aggressions, trans-toilets & gay marriage etc etc doesn’t make you Left, it makes you a Wanker who sees nothing except puddles where oceans exist.
    The “Left” if it means anything at a minimum it is: anti-imperialist & committed to transitioning society from capitalism to socialism.
    On that definition, the Clinton’s & Trotsky have nothing in common.

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    As with other political descriptions such as "conservative" or "liberal" or "communist", it is not easy to get a precise definition of what it means. However in the common usage used by most people, whether they call themselves leftist or not, being leftist does now does very much imply diversity, transgender toilets and gay marriage. As for micro aggressions the rapid movement of all things leftist probably means this will be the norm in less than 10 years by most. If most people define some political label as such then its good enough to for me to make that the definition.
  47. Wally says:

    The Leftists are hoisted by their own petard.

    Acting FBI Director REFUTES Reports that Comey Asked for More Funding for Russia Investigation

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/acting-fbi-director-refutes-reports-comey-asked-funding-russia-investigation-video/

    10 Major FBI Scandals on Comey’s Watch
    The FBI interviewed almost every terrorist who successfully struck America

    https://news.grabien.com/story-10-major-fbi-scandals-comeys-watch

    Bunch Of Liberals Flip-Flopping On James Comey

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/11/heres-a-reel-of-a-bunch-of-liberals-flip-flopping-on-james-comey-video/

    Comey hated by Dems:
    Dem Reid on Comey:
    Dem Cohen on Comey:
    Obama aides on Comey:
    Comey: Trump Did What They Wanted Obama to Do

    http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/05/10/hoekstra-dems-in-awkward-position-over-comey-firing-trump-did-what-they-wanted-obama-to-do/

    Even Leftist Schumer slammed Comey

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/09/trump-mocks-cryin-chuck-schumer-for-switching-positions-on-comey/

    Even WSJ Defends Comey Ouster: “Comey Deserved Dismissal”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-10/wsj-defends-comey-ouster-comey-deserved-dismissal

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  48. neutral says:
    @animalogic
    "How conservative are the Bushes, the Clintons, The Evil One, ManBearPig, Frau Markel, any of these bastards? They are “left” as a Trotsky, Mao, or Pol Pot is left."
    "If you substitute “Progressives ” where I wrote ” left”, well that works for me."
    Sorry, doesn't work for me. Crapping on about diversity, micro aggressions, trans-toilets & gay marriage etc etc doesn't make you Left, it makes you a Wanker who sees nothing except puddles where oceans exist.
    The "Left" if it means anything at a minimum it is: anti-imperialist & committed to transitioning society from capitalism to socialism.
    On that definition, the Clinton's & Trotsky have nothing in common.

    As with other political descriptions such as “conservative” or “liberal” or “communist”, it is not easy to get a precise definition of what it means. However in the common usage used by most people, whether they call themselves leftist or not, being leftist does now does very much imply diversity, transgender toilets and gay marriage. As for micro aggressions the rapid movement of all things leftist probably means this will be the norm in less than 10 years by most. If most people define some political label as such then its good enough to for me to make that the definition.

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  49. mcohen says:

    the boundaries of the holy city of jerusalem must be surveyed and marked out.much like the vatican.a holy city.moving embassies to jerusalem will be a step towards each nation accepting that this is a holy city to the nations.all nations that belong to the 3 companions.
    the land that lies outside the boundaries is a political issue.so regardless of that political settlement jerusalem must remain a seperate entity accessible to those that are truly spiritual and devote there lives to the 3 abrahamic relegions.from the inner spiritual place to the outer political circle the hope that the inner circle will provide spiritual guidance to the outer political circle.
    imans,priests and rabbis to the inner circle.embassies and staff the outer circle would be the eventual goal.
    who will wear the cloak .who will carry the burden of leadership.who has the vision.

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  50. Z-man says:
    @Bijk
    Is there video of this available? When was this exactly?

    The Face The Nation segment with those two was on approx. 4-8 weeks ago, sorry that’s the best I can do. Maybe search the Face The Nation site.

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  51. DES says:

    Another possibility is that Comey was fired for incompetence. He badly bungled the matter of the Hillary email investigation. When Loretta Lynch found herself in a conflict (of her own making), Comey should not have agreed to make and announce the decision whether to prosecute Hillary. That is not the role of the FBI. There are procedures in the DOJ to handle this type of situation. Comey should have insisted that they be followed. No one could have justifiably criticized him for that. Moreover, he should have followed the traditional FBI policy of not commenting on ongoing investigations, to Congress or anyone else.
    In short, Comey evidenced little understanding of the mission of the agency he headed.

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  52. Z-man says:

    Well it seems that the hysteria has risen to a fever pitch tonight as a friendly meeting between the Russian foreign minister and ambassador and the President and his staff has been turned into a ‘mortal case of betrayal’ of national secretes by Trump. The power of the ‘Dark side’, i.e., the controlled media, the Deep State, the Neocohens, etc. to keep Russia and America in a constant adversarial state is obvious and sad. The hatred of Trump by both Dems and Republicans and the rest of the establishment shows that he is still the right man for the job. If only he had the cojones to follow thru with most of the ideas that he ran on in the campaign.

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    Well just 24 hours later the hysteria has died down. It was even exposed that Isruel was the country whose intelligence was 'undermined' by Trump. So this is now a win-win, again, for Donald as it shows how desperate the untied MSM, Neocon/Shilib Cabal is to get rid of Trump. The Jew-ish State even came to Trump's defense, as they share info with the Russians also, lol, so that took the wind out of the sails of all the anti Trumpsters.
    Viva Trump!
    Trump-Putin Axis DA!!
  53. @jilles dykstra
    If, IF, what I still hope, Trump really wants to change the USA course since Roosevelt, world domination by military force, of course there is a lot of opposition.

    Not just those for which Eisenhower already warned, the industrial military complex, but also the naive USA citizens who believed, and still believe, the democrats, and also the whole European 'elite', who counted on USA support in creating a USA clone in Europe, and hoped to force Russia into being also a Brussels vassal state, one way or another, militarily, or economically.

    Idiot Verhofstadt already years ago stated his hope that Russia would become a EU member state:
    Brussels ruling from the Atlantic to the Pacific, of course, in time, also subjugating China.

    White supremacy over all the world, the Washington Brussels axis.

    We can hardly call the EU white supremacist when it is aggressively and rapidly settling millions of culturally alien and incompatible Arab and African Muslims in their member countries, at the financial and physical expense of the actual white Europeans.

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  54. @El Dato

    Brussels ruling from the Atlantic to the Pacific, of course, in time, also subjugating China.
     
    A combination of demented financiers currently on the last gleaming to extract value from vapid paper shuffling as well as bureaucrats mostly occupied with their retirement plans and daily perks are supposed to become Dark Overlords of the continent?

    Shurely, a likely scenario.

    Actually, I do think Chinese cash-flush entities are currently buying most of Europe. Whitey will probably be living innawoods soon, together with the integratively-challenged Roma.

    Your last prediction sounds like California. The way housing costs are going in LA and OC and beyond, I might have to move my family to the Angeles National Forest.

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  55. @Flavius
    Comey accepted the Clinton e-mail case under conditions that no 'reasonable' FBI Director should have: that it not be an investigation. If he had insisted that it be an investigation, and if it had been, there would have been no Clinton candidacy and absent a pardon, every liklihood that the Clintons today would be convicted felons. If he had been rebuffed and had resigned, he would have left the FBI as a hero. As it is, he is a goat, a dead goat, more road kill along the trail of the Clintons. Too bad!

    Let’s not forget why we had the head of an investigative agency making an announcement about a decision on whether they would pursue an indictment on a particular case. Isn’t that a prosecutor’s job? Well, it was, until that meeting between Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton was publicized.

    The Attorney General dropped out of the spotlight after that, and suddenly the investigative agency became the decision maker as far as indictment/ prosecution. A little odd, when you think about it.

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  56. @Sean
    Obama asked Congress for a strike on Assad angot was denied it. He could have done it without asking, but didn't . The idea that Clinton would have ordered a strike without going to Congress is far fetched. And the Republicans were against Oba's strike so tyhey would have been against Clinton's

    Anyway , Trump does not go in for ineffective local proxies (McMaster his security advisor is clear that US troop are required to achieve anything). If Trump gets annoyed with Assad he will use US forces and crush Assad in a week.

    Assad is a hereditary dictator who inherited a Sunni majority country that had been ruled by a family Of Alawites for generations. If you have a forest and every time there is a fire you put it out, what happens is the flammable tinder accumulates and then you get an unstoppable conflagration. Assad suppressed all dissent, and consequently resentment had been piling up, one spark was enough, and the idiot young master Assad putting up the price of fuels was that spark. The Assads held total power by military force. Live by the sword.

    Exactly. Why can’t people understand that rule by warring bands of internationally-recruited Salafist mercenaries is far preferable to Assad’s regime? Why, just look at how well it worked out in Libya! They just need to understand that no sacrifice is too great when it comes to whatever is promoted by the legacy media as the cause of muh freedom and democracy in other countries.

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    Gaddafi was visiting schools and kidnapping the children who caught his eye-- for purposes better left unmentioned, who could suppose that a people are going to stand for that indefinately? It is really stupid to think that countries ruled by a unrepresentative minority running them into the ground can go on till the crack of doom without a reaction--a revolution.

    Allow me to get right back on topic.The kind of thinking that views the uprising against Assad and the overthrow of Gaddafi as being mainly due toUS subversion and intervention is in the mold of the uncomprehending fools who believe that Trump could not have won the election fair and square so Russia must have been behind it.

    The interests and wellbeing of Syrians and Libyans is an incident not an end: I don't care who runs Syria or Libya, but even if I did,I would not presume to tell the majority there how to live--as long as they live out their lives in their own countries. It is not our job to overthrow dictatorial regimes, nor coddle them. Assad is stimulating a flow of refugees that represent the very deadliest of perils to Western nations, and most importantly, Assad is friends with Russia, not us. We owe his incompetent bloodsoaked regieme nothing.
  57. @candid_observer
    OT, but here's a very interesting article describing the use of "white left" in derision on Chinese internet boards:

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaliberties/chenchen-zhang/curious-rise-of-white-left-as-chinese-internet-insult

    The author of the piece herself subscribes to the usual PC pieties, and can't seem to understand how so many Chinese could fall in with this attitude toward our identity politics. It never seems to occur to her that it's possible that it is the left in American and Europe that's lost the thread of civilization and common sense, and not most Chinese (and, of course, most other nations in East Asia, Eastern Europe, etc.)

    “It never seems to occur to her that it’s possible that it is the left in American and Europe that’s lost the thread of civilization and common sense, and not most Chinese.”

    I don’t disagree, but I think it can be looked at from a somewhat different standpoint.

    How about if you read it again, while asking yourself “Is the writer at any point considering whether this concept has any real world validity or empirical support? Or is she simply analyzing it as potential threat to the progressive establishment narrative, with a view to generating counter-propaganda?” Because it appears to me that the author is not engaging in reality testing at any point in this piece.

    It appears that, to the author, “truth” is measured in terms of consistency with the narrative. Objective reality is simply not a consideration in her view. Try looking at it that way. What do you think?

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  58. Bijk says:

    Shocked I overlooked this- it’s perhaps as clear of an example of Trump Derangement Syndrome you’ll ever get (even compared to all of other Maher’s Russia histrionics and sucking up to David Frum): http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/05/12/maher-i-want-democrats-to-say-youre-either-with-us-or-with-the-russians/

    “Maher said, “[W]hy can’t the Democrats make this sale? You’re either with us or with the Russians. Remember Bush? You’re either with us, or with the terrorists. I feel like — that’s what — all I want to hear.””

    Bush’s line from all those years ago was probably the most widely derided thing he ever said, primarily from the left. Now? Maher wants the Democrats to copy him.

    “Remember Bush? Yeah, I want to hear you mimic all of his rhetoric and policies (but applied to Russia), everything people like me used to deplore and rage against all the time throughout the 00′s.”

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  59. Z-man says:
    @Z-man
    Well it seems that the hysteria has risen to a fever pitch tonight as a friendly meeting between the Russian foreign minister and ambassador and the President and his staff has been turned into a 'mortal case of betrayal' of national secretes by Trump. The power of the 'Dark side', i.e., the controlled media, the Deep State, the Neocohens, etc. to keep Russia and America in a constant adversarial state is obvious and sad. The hatred of Trump by both Dems and Republicans and the rest of the establishment shows that he is still the right man for the job. If only he had the cojones to follow thru with most of the ideas that he ran on in the campaign.

    Well just 24 hours later the hysteria has died down. It was even exposed that Isruel was the country whose intelligence was ‘undermined’ by Trump. So this is now a win-win, again, for Donald as it shows how desperate the untied MSM, Neocon/Shilib Cabal is to get rid of Trump. The Jew-ish State even came to Trump’s defense, as they share info with the Russians also, lol, so that took the wind out of the sails of all the anti Trumpsters.
    Viva Trump!
    Trump-Putin Axis DA!!

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  60. Sean says:
    @JamesForrestal
    Exactly. Why can't people understand that rule by warring bands of internationally-recruited Salafist mercenaries is far preferable to Assad's regime? Why, just look at how well it worked out in Libya! They just need to understand that no sacrifice is too great when it comes to whatever is promoted by the legacy media as the cause of muh freedom and democracy in other countries.

    Gaddafi was visiting schools and kidnapping the children who caught his eye– for purposes better left unmentioned, who could suppose that a people are going to stand for that indefinately? It is really stupid to think that countries ruled by a unrepresentative minority running them into the ground can go on till the crack of doom without a reaction–a revolution.

    Allow me to get right back on topic.The kind of thinking that views the uprising against Assad and the overthrow of Gaddafi as being mainly due toUS subversion and intervention is in the mold of the uncomprehending fools who believe that Trump could not have won the election fair and square so Russia must have been behind it.

    The interests and wellbeing of Syrians and Libyans is an incident not an end: I don’t care who runs Syria or Libya, but even if I did,I would not presume to tell the majority there how to live–as long as they live out their lives in their own countries. It is not our job to overthrow dictatorial regimes, nor coddle them. Assad is stimulating a flow of refugees that represent the very deadliest of perils to Western nations, and most importantly, Assad is friends with Russia, not us. We owe his incompetent bloodsoaked regieme nothing.

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  61. “Assad is stimulating a flow of refugees”

    The war against Assad is stimulating a flow of refugees.

    Fixed it for you.

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