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The issue of reparations for black slavery got an airing in Congress last week, curiously coinciding with renewed Main Stream Media drumbeating for the white-guilting Central Park Five Rape Hoax. I discuss reparations below, but first a word about an obviously-related news item that doesn’t seem to be getting any drumbeating at all.

A 23-year-old “Man,” Temar Bishop, who is black, was arraigned in court in New York las Saturday for charges including rape and attempted murder. He had raped a 20-year-old white woman and then beaten her unconscious.

The charge sheet also includes “Hate Crime,” based on words Mr. Bishop spoke to a witness after the event. Here are the words,

She was a white girl. She deserved it because us minorities have been through slavery … This is what they used to do to us. This is what they did to us during slavery. They used to beat us and whip us.

Man nabbed for Bronx rape allegedly said she ‘deserved it’ for ‘slavery’,by Larry Celona and Stephanie Pagones, June 18, 2019

I think the whole notion of “Hate Crime” is totally misguided and I’d like it removed from the statute books. Why is Temar Bishop’s offense any worse because he hates whites?

If I were judge in the case and Temar Bishop was found guilty at trial, I’d give him twenty years for the rape and fine him ten cents for the “Hate crime. ”

But will the long-standing and massively disproportionate pattern of black-on-white rape, to say nothing of homicides, be factored into any slavery reparation calculation?

The House Judiciary Committee hearings on a bill to … wait a minute, let me get it precisely right: “a bill to create a commission that would make recommendations concerning ‘any form of apology and compensation’ to descendants of enslaved African-Americans was the Congressional Clown Show Of The Week.

That’s the bill: to create a commission to make recommendations. Reminds me of my days as a student union debater, when we had fun with Roberts’ Rules of Order, moving a motion to move the motion that the motion be now tabled.

Sorry, my mind was wandering there. I just have trouble taking this reparations stuff seriously.

For one thing, I see all these race issues through the prism of the Cold Civil War: two big groups of whites going hammer and tongs at each other for all they’re worth while blacks hang around the periphery, dodging on to the battlefield now and then to rob a corpse or land a sucker punch.

I mean, do blacks really care about this, or is it just a way for guilty white liberals to display their mating plumage? Quote from myself:

Anti-racism is a mating display. It says: “Look at me! I have such earning power I can live where I like! I don’t have to worry about feral underclass blacks or Salvadoran gangbangers! I can strike a pose of lofty indifference to matters of race! Drop your knickers right now!”

Why Isn’t Racism Cool?, TakiMag, April 18, 2013

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And in fact a couple of blacks (Coleman Hughes and former NFL player Burgess Owens)showed up at the hearing to argue against reparations as demeaning to blacks—as carrying the implication that unless whites give them stuff, they can’t cope. [Coleman Hughes: The Moment You Give Someone Reparations, You’ve Made Them Into A Victim, RealClearPolitics, June 19, 2019]

Which is in point of fact true. When the whites are driven out, as in Detroit or Zimbabwe, or killed off, as in Haiti, the blacks end up with, well, Detroit, Zimbabwe and Haiti. Without whites, blacks really can’t cope.

That’s a hard thing for Talented Tenth blacks like those two dissenters at Wednesday’s hearing to admit, and I intend no offense to them personally—they both seemed like fine, smart American gentlemen—but the Untalented Nine-Tenths is a mighty burden to bear: too much for the Talented Tenth to manage without help.

I revert to my analogy of a man dragging a sack along a road. If the man is big and healthy, and the sack not too heavy, he can cope all right. The sack will slow him down, but he’ll make progress. A smaller man with a bigger, heavier sack won’t cope so well, perhaps won’t be able to cope at all.

Whites have their feckless, troublesome underclasses, too. I know; I grew up among some of them. That’s the sack we have to drag. There aren’t so many that we can’t manage them, though, and make progress in spite of them. Blacks have a different equation to solve.

White Americans have done their best to help Blacks solve it. We’ve done more than that, in fact; we have distorted our entire social system, twisted our laws, and spent trillions of dollars to help them.

Affirmative Action, contract set-asides, hiring favoritism, exquisitely punctilious protocols in speech and writing to avoid offending them, gibberish college courses for them to be professors of, strict media silence over levels of black crime, fake documentaries presenting black thugs and rapists as saintly victims, …

The question I’d put before Congress is not: “Should whites do more?” but, “How much more can whites be expected to do?”

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  1. Technomad says:

    We’re still paying for the Civil War, too. There are a few people about who’re getting pensions for being the children of Civil War veterans (or there were, last time I looked) and every so often, somebody or other unearths an old shell on a forgotten battlefield and finds out that it’s not a dud, the hard way.

    Add in the costs of the Civil War, and the debt starts looking pretty huge.

  2. But will the long-standing and massively disproportionate pattern of black-on-white rape, to say nothing of homicides, be factored into any slavery reparation calculation?

    Thank you Sir. I’ve been asking this question for years and while we all know the answer, it’s good to see the question raised once in a while.

    The depredations white people have suffered over the years are never even mentioned, much less reconciled. The cost of our many ruined cities alone is almost incalculable.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Jean LeFeet
  3. Derbyshire characteristically fails to note the role played by white liberal policy-makers in worsening the situation of blacks with regard to crime and family integrity. Tom Sowell has documented how liberal programs have made things demonstrably worse for blacks. The white guilt narrative has played a major role in discrediting the values of an older, whiter, more Christian America and the displacement of its WASP elite by a largely Jewish “meritocracy,” with the side effect of weakening values needed for black success. Derbyshire doesn’t want to bring Jews into it but the aggravation of black dysfunction by white liberalism and the Rainbow Coalition electoral formula is hard to deny. If you are afraid to speak the truth it is better to be quiet than to promote a half-truth.

  4. “How much more can whites be expected to do?”

  5. Sean says:

    As with slavery and then prohibition, which stemmed from the sacrimonous moral arms race began by the simplified theology of backwoods hellfire preaching from the Second Great Awakening, with the the 60’s awokening we were off to the races with symmetrical schismogenesis among white liberals. However It was not so much that ordinary blacks were told it was alright to do their own thing in their own communities, but that elite blacks were allowed to leave those areas to the lower orders of blacks.

    Blacks had order enforced on them in their own community by the 10% Deb refers to. Once integration and block busting allowed the 10% to leave black areas, those districts quickly spiralled down into hell holes ghettoes. A similar process is going on in the Third World with immigration taking the place of integration, because only the wealthy can afford to immigrate, then the remaining couple people get demoralised and bail out too. Sowell noted that capitalism and the business class were opposed to any kind of Jim Crow. Vast profits stemmed from blockbusting, and even bigger ones come from immigration and globalisation. The blacks who get left behind in black ghettoes or countries are the biggest losers.

  6. “I revert to my analogy of a man dragging a sack along a road. If the man is big and healthy, and the sack not too heavy, he can cope all right. The sack will slow him down, but he’ll make progress. A smaller man with a bigger, heavier sack won’t cope so well, perhaps won’t be able to cope at all.”

    If 10% of a population is dysfunctional, then 90% are big and healthy enough to drag them along. That’s a 9 to 1 ratio.

    But let another 10% become dysfunctional and you’re now looking at a 20 to 80 ratio. For each dysfunctional rock in the sack there are only 4 big and healthy persons trying to drag them along.

    The reason things just don’t seem to be functioning as well in America as they did 50 years ago is because they aren’t.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  7. kikz says:

    past time to unload that burden, my dear Rudyard.
    1899.

    • Replies: @brandybranch
  8. Roughly a third of government spending goes towards medicaid, food stamps, housing vouchers etc. for the poor. That’s about 1.1 trillion dollars. 35% of that goes to black folk. That’s 385 billion annually.
    There are 40 million black people in America. That’s $9625 per black person per year.

    This has been going on since 1965, which is 54 years. So, a black person born in 1965 would have already received $519,750 of reparations over his life time, in today’s money. A family of four would have received over 2 million dollars. And now they tell us that they’re entitled to more.

    I guess it’s pointless to ask whether this sum will be subtracted from the reparations bill we allegedly owe.

  9. Thomm says:
    @Technomad

    There are a few people about who’re getting pensions for being the children of Civil War veterans (or there were, last time I looked)

    There is still one such person, who gets $73/month.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-08-08/civil-war-vets-pension-still-remains-on-governments-payroll-151-years-after-last-shot-fired

    But I don’t think the costs of the Civil War are justifiably owed by blacks out of their reparations calculation, unlike the cost of B on W murders.

  10. Anon[309] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Of course real men put rape above homicides on the crime list…
    It’s like that “100 of them for one of us” just applied to men (100) and women (1), by men.

  11. The cold political Civil War is still primarily virtue-signaling “Good” Whites vs. redpilled “Bad” Whites. This will probably turn into a hot Civil War before the 2020s are over.

    It’s “racist” to openly talk about the cost of Blacks:

    Crime, corruption, welfare dependency, voting for the growth in the size of government, working for the government in some capacity, lack of a work ethic if employed, etc. No one will speak truth to power. I think that commentators such as Ann Coulter and Tucker Carlson know the truth, but are careful about what they say and write because they want to keep their jobs.

    Even mainstream “Conservatives” hand Blacks the get-out-jail-free card of blaming Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood for the high rate of Black abortions rather than holding Blacks responsible for their behavior. It’s actually comical when Right-to-Lifers shriek about “Black genocide” and that there would be more Blacks in the US if it wasn’t for abortion. Are women forced to have abortions? I wonder where the virtue-signaling “Conservatives” live and what the demography is. Blacks love to be absolved of responsibility for their behavior. More handouts, please.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Loren
  12. I wonder if we aren’t reaching Peak Negro. The Chinese, sub-continent Indians, Mestizos and even foreign-born Europeans are, as a group, decidedly unsympathetic to black dysfunction, and it is very difficult to guilt trip them with the legacy of slavery, legacy of Jim Crow, or even white privilege.

    As for the Cold Civil War, my assessment is that the Good Whites have pretty much routed the Bad Whites and that what we see now are “mopping up” operations.

  13. Lo says:

    Reparations would not be bad for the world. Blacks get money, spend it on buying things and services from white-owned businesses, stimulation of small businesses increases sales of corporations, and that means more exports for Chinese manufacturers. Blacks are happy because they have new wigs and car audio systems, whites are happy because their sales are way up, corporations are happy because profits are up, Chinese are happy because their exports increased. See, the whole world can be made happy by providing money to math ignorant Blacks. Plus, if they start complaining about slavery when the money dries up, everyone can point the fact that they already had reparations and end it there.

    • Disagree: Robert Dolan
  14. We owe blacks nothing.

    Slavery was the best thing that ever happened to American blacks.

    • Troll: Okechukwu
  15. KenH says:

    First of all, did anyone see the lips on Ta-Nehisi Coates? Whoa, those are some of the biggest n-word lips I’ve ever seen. He was just one of the rogues gallery of angry negroes making a pitch for reparations.

    If Coates and other uppity congoid Americans think they should get paid for slavery, mass incarceration, red lining, etc., then whites should get compensated for having a savage, hateful and ungrateful race of congoids foisted upon them in 1964-65 and all of the injuries, deaths, ruined neighborhoods and schools, property destruction and psychological torment that it’s caused whites.

    Whites should get compensated for constituting a disproportionate number of interracial crime victims, indentured servitude, having to fight and die in 20th century wars that served no national interest and the farm crisis of the 1980’s whereby banks foreclosed on the loans of hundreds of farmers in the midwest and destroying their livelihood and taking possession of farms that belonged to these families for several generations.

    The whites working class should also get reparations for having jobs that they relied on for good wages and benefits to be shipped to Mexico and China.

  16. KenH says:

    In the 60’s whites were told that welfare, food stamps, and medicaid via the “war on poverty” along with affirmative action would bring peace in our time to ebony and ivory. It really didn’t but then in the 70’s through the early 21st century whites were told that just a few more set asides like AA in higher education and mortgages to unqualified blacks will do the trick but that really didn’t either.

    All of the white concessions to blacks since the 1960’s has signaled that we’re are a weak, feckless, guilt ridden race of people that won’t stand up for itself. And of course whites have had no real leadership or any elected representatives that will defend our interests on racial grounds like every other race is allowed to do.

    As a result congoid Americans smell blood and are moving in for the kill. The rogues gallery of congoid radicals we saw in the hearings don’t need reparations and are only doing to this to stick to the white man and kick him when he’s down. This is what we can expect from our non-white overlords and their Jewish cheerleaders and handlers in the near future.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  17. KenH says:

    If congoid Americans were serious about reparations then they should hold hearings about suing the West African nations that are most responsible for selling their ancestors into slavery. Congoid Americans are the descendants of those who were the losers in African tribal wars. They were first taken as slaves by African chieftains then sold to Europeans, but the black African chieftains get let off the hook.

    Do mulattoes get reparations? Their DNA is half slave blood and half white oppressor blood. What do we do for quadroons like Corey Booker who are 3/4 oppressor blood? Do they get 25% of whatever figure is settled upon? What do we do for black prisoners who are only in prison because of white racism and intolerance? Maybe just give them a couple of candy bars from the commissary each month and a conjugal with an obese white woman?

    I think the Republicans are desperately hoping they lose the majority in the Senate so they can blame reparations all on the Democrats just like with Obamacare. Any day now I expect The National Review will be publishing an article titled The conservative case for Reparations penned no doubt by a Jewish cuckservative like Ben Shapiro.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  18. @KenH

    This got whimmed on Steve Sailer’s blog the other day. Maybe I’ll have better luck here. Nothing racist, the guy just has big lips. Why should it be taboo to mention it? I’ve heard similar jokes about Mick Jagger.

    Have you heard? Ta-Nehisi’s a yachter!
    Have no fear, he can swim like an otter.
    In case of typhoons,
    His lips are pontoons,
    For supporting his nose above water.

    ****************************************

    Told you ’bout Ta-Nehisi and boats;
    How his lips are effective as floats.
    Now it’s his lucky day, man;
    Chap-Stick comes in a spray can—
    Extra-large, good for multiple coats!

  19. My paternal great grandfather lost his right leg below the knee fighting against the Confederacy. So I’m off the hook. I don’t have any money anyway.

    I would support reparations for people who are now or who have been incarcerated for possession of marijuana and their descendants. Descendants of slaves would receive a disproportionate share of that loot.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  20. @KenH

    Whites are correctly seen as weak.

    It’s not reparations, it’s tribute and will never end. Welfare, et al., is a bribe not to riot.

    Steven S. pointed out that before the 1960s, race riots were typically started by Whites. Obviously, that’s because Whites were in control. If Blacks rioted, Whites would put the disturbance down promptly.

    I don’t think that Blacks and non-Blacks can live together equitably, unless the non-Blacks are clearly the bosses and set the tone of society. This was true of pre-1960s America. What we see in the ‘hood is a reversion back to African patterns of family life and work ethic.

  21. @KenH

    Whites WERE compensated for indentured servitude, at the time, on an individual basis, by being paid as agreed for something that they had agreed to. Like you, I well remember how blacks got to sit out the Vietnam War.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  22. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    Blacks owe reparations to whites for destroying Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, etc.
    How much does a city cost?

    • Replies: @WSG
  23. @KenH

    “What do we do for quadroons like Corey Booker who are 3/4 oppressor blood? Do they get 25% of whatever figure is settled upon?”

    No. Corey Booker would pay 50%.

    75% oppressor – 25% oppressed = 50% oppressor. So he’s a net loser.

    Obama, being half and half, would net out zero.

  24. “… two big groups of whites going hammer and tongs at each other for all they’re worth while blacks hang around the periphery, dodging on to the battlefield now and then to rob a corpse or land a sucker punch.”

    The above by the author captures the current situation well. Especially the bit about blacks being graverobbers and cowardly fighters. Nothing really changes in the ongoing race war. White progressives who live in black-free neighborhoods continue to use blacks as totems signifying their virtue, while blacks, despite their mostly unearned advancements in opportunities and income, remain malcontent Africans.

  25. @Simple Man

    Whites WERE compensated for indentured servitude, at the time, on an individual basis, by being paid as agreed for something that they had agreed to…

    So were Blacks. Slavery for life started with a freed Black slave, Anthony Johnson, who owned two White slaves, suing neighbors over the right to determine the length of indenture of his Black slave, John Casor.

  26. J1234 says:

    A really great column, John. Thanks.

    I felt the Coleman Hughes presentation was impressive, and then some. Of course, he had to throw in some lame “mass incarceration” references, but that may have been to salvage some semblance of respect from fellow blacks and Democrats. If that was his motivation, it didn’t help. He apparently took leftists at their word when they said they wanted to have a “conversation” about reparations. Little did he know that “conversation” means they boo threateningly and sneer at you when you disagree with them, even in a chamber of congress…I guess because civility is a “white” thing (say the black studies professors.)

    In 2001 or so, UNICEF said that 100,000 black central African children were sold into slavery every year. Why do American blacks who talk so much about the enslavement of African blacks 150 years ago talk so little about the enslavement of black children in Africa today? I’m guessing it’s the color of the perpetrators. The narrative says the perps have to be white, or pretty close. In their eyes, even apartheid in SA deserved far more opposition than modern day slavery because the perpetrators in SA where white.

    That’s the leftist black interpretation of “principles,” which would come astonishingly close to “privilege” in any other context. When all is said and done, this political fiasco will fail, because it’s ill-conceived, and more importantly, immoral (for the reasons stated above.)

  27. This might make sense of skin color was the cause of said crime. But since crime is a human construct/behavior with no accounting to skin color let’s just call this what it is — silly. That stats on crime are repeatedly that to cause whites are by far the largest perpetrators.

    I am unclear how grapple with the reparations issue. But clearly, anyone attempting to ameliorate reparations by way for criminal conduct of less than even 3% percent of the population is tending to the irrational mind. If we are in fact going to make a crime an issue, the matter would fall decidely in favor of the black population by several magnitudes as whites as a population across the country have engaged in criminal activity against blacks wholesale since the day slaves walked off the plantation.

    And attempting to make the riot turn, just makes matters worse for whites. It seems a wise soul would hesitate expanding the target of cause for relief.

  28. Hail says: • Website
    @ThreeCranes

    Good start to the analysis but Black tax payments would have to be subtracted.

    There are also the costs of policing and running the criminal justice system (including prisons), an enormous yearly sum and Blacks ‘absorb’ about 50% of that spending.

    Someone at the Steve Sailer blog ran this analysis and found that Black tax payments probably do not cover the costs of (total policing and the criminal justice system expenses)/2, this assuming that as they commit 50% of the crimes they thus use up about 50% of police/justice-system funds.

    In other words, Black tax payments don’t even cover the costs of policing their people, to say nothing of the “medicaid, food stamps, housing vouchers, etc.” you mention.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  29. @EliteCommInc.

    “as whites as a population across the country have engaged in criminal activity against blacks wholesale since the day slaves walked off the plantation”

    How? How does/did that happen? Tell us precisely how an immigrant from Sweden to North Dakota in 1889 engaged in criminal activity against blacks. Specifics and actual examples, please. No airy abstractions. Real incidents, enough of them to observe patterns and draw inferences.

    • Agree: RVBlake
  30. Anon[247] • Disclaimer says:

    Blacks owe me gas money for 30 years of commuting to my job having to move out of Baltimore to the ex-burbs because of their misbehavior.

    • Replies: @95Theses
  31. @Lo

    Not a taxpayer, are you?

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  32. @jack daniels

    Welfare programs that enforced the no father in the house rule were not limited to black people. Anyone on welfare had to adhere to it or lose benefits. Thus your point is false.

    Furthermore it wasn’t white liberals who instigated those policies, but Puritan conservatives, who were less concerned with the welfare of poor families than it was with not letting any lazy people get away with getting free gubmint handouts. It was thought that if you forced the fathers out then they would have to go to work and that would solve everything.

    And to that end, a huge bureaucracy was created in order to enforce the no fathers in the house rule and to enforce the many other rules that were created so that no poor person could cheat the system.

    The bureaucracy costed the taxpayers 50 times more than any cheating but the American public gladly put up with it just so that no lazy no account poor person could game the system. Spend 50 d0llars on administrative layers to save 1 dollar. That was the American way of welfare.

    This was not race based and had nothing whatsoever to do with racism, only with Puritanism.

    However, it is true that only the black race seemed unable to overcome this crushing blow. Other poor people some how did over come it.

    Since the policies were not race-based in any way that puts 100 percent of the responsibility on blacks. Why haven’t they overcome this after 60 years of the policy??

    • Replies: @Wally
  33. If I were judge in the case and Temar Bishop was found guilty at trial, I’d give him twenty years for the rape and fine him ten cents for the “Hate crime.”

    AGREED!

    The whole idea of punishment for hate is ludicrous. Thank you for putting this part in, Mr. Derbyshire.

    Now, about the reparations, I don’t see how we could go wrong with the Peak Stupidity Reparations Plan. It’s very easy on the taxpayer.

  34. @ThreeCranes

    Obama, being half and half, would net out zero.

    Nope. His black half is African African, not remotely descended from slaves. He’s all oppressor.

    • Replies: @KenH
  35. @ThreeCranes

    Good points all; I’d only add one note.

    There are 40 million black people in America. That’s $9625 per black person per year.

    There were only about 20 million in 1965, so the math could be adjusted–strengthening your point even further. Using 30 million (rough average) it’s well over $10K per person per year. (Spending was increasing along the way, of course, but disproportionately.)

    At the time of the Civil War, there were only four million, so now we have ten times as many. It’s also worth mentioning that we have a very high level of African immigration these past few decades, along with all of the other third-world migrants swamping the nation and keeping the black percentage down, when otherwise it would have skyrocketed thanks to their high birthrates.

    As an aside, I’d also add that blacks in aggregate do not pay much in income taxes, or property taxes, etc. A lot of what passes for their ‘economic activity’ isn’t even taxed at all, though it does provoke a tremendous amount of law-enforcement spending.

  36. Anonymous[404] • Disclaimer says:

    Reparations under two conditions: 1) You can prove via reputable geneological research you are descended from slaves and that, secondly, you have not one drop white blood in your family tree and 2.) that you accept payment in Liberian dollars, in Liberia, having denounced your US citizen ship and emigrated back to the Mother Continent.

  37. @Lo

    Inter alia, there’s just this little matter of fact that we don’t have the money for it. Every trillion by which we increase the national debt just makes our eventual reckoning that much more vicious. No one wants to concern himself with that, it seems.

    As is detailed right here in this thread, in addition to a hundred other places online, we’ve already paid gargantuan ‘reparations’ to blacks and not only doesn’t it seem to help them do anything other than become more dependent, it also causes them to ask for more and more.

    I realize your post is at least partly tongue-in-cheek, but the points remain. As a nation, over the past few decades, we’ve made a virtual fetish of fighting fire with fire.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  38. @KenH

    First of all, did anyone see the lips on Ta-Nehisi Coates? Whoa, those are some of the biggest n-word lips I’ve ever seen.

    I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and frankly your pronouncements strike me as a tad racist.

    • LOL: KenH, WSG
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  39. Hail says: • Website

    a couple of blacks (Coleman Hughes and former NFL player Burgess Owens) showed up at the hearing to argue against reparations

    Anagram for “Coleman Hughes & Burgess Owens”

    genes grumble — whoosh! — a census.

  40. Sbaker says:
    @Robert Dolan

    The starkest of truths can never be said in a loud voice. Cassius Clay was about half honest when he said “I’m just glad my great granddaddy got on that boat.”

    • Agree: Hunsdon
    • Replies: @Jeff Blankfort
  41. @EliteCommInc.

    That stats on crime are repeatedly that to cause whites are by far the largest perpetrators.

    Your post–at least the parts which were relatively coherent–is full of bizarre assertions which defy logic and common sense besides. Though I sense it is futile to engage you, consider familiarizing yourself with the FBI crime statistics over the past quarter century.

    Among many other things, you’ll learn that black-on-white violent crime outpaces white-on-black by a factor of 26.

  42. JackOH says:

    Thanks to all for excellent comments. I can only offer a comment I made a few days ago that we ought to try to think of all of this as all of one piece in the context of Black Supremacism:

    “I don’t think people understand how deeply internalized the legitimacy of massive redistribution from Whites to Blacks is among many Blacks. That legitimacy extends to property crimes and violent crimes against Whites.”

    “I’ve overheard college-educated Blacks talking amongst themselves about a local crime, saying the victim “should’ve known better”, “shouldn’t have been there”, and so on. Think the O. J. Simpson verdict.”

    “My personal feeling is that “reparations”, the massive rioting of the 1960s, the casually justified street crimes against Whites, and the like may be better understood in the context of Black Supremacism, which is no better than a street philosophy but is pretty real nonetheless.”

  43. Okechukwu says:
    @KenH

    First of all, did anyone see the lips on Ta-Nehisi Coates? Whoa, those are some of the biggest n-word lips I’ve ever seen.

    I assure you, it’s much better than having no lips at all. That’s why white people injecting shit into their lips is a billion dollar industry.

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Biff
    , @Pissedoffalese
  44. Okechukwu says:

    I’ve browsed through a few Derbyshire articles, each one more ridiculous than its predecessor.

    Is he for real? Is he just stupid? Is he a comedian? What’s up?

    • Troll: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
    , @WSG
  45. KenH says:
    @Elf Himself

    Nope. His black half is African African, not remotely descended from slaves. He’s all oppressor.

    Great point. We’ll assume that his African side sold other Africans into slavery since that’s where is iron legged drunk daddy hailed from. That means he should be forced to donate a large amount of his Netflix loot and speaking fee gibs to the united negro reparations fund.

  46. “Though I sense it is futile to engage you, consider familiarizing yourself with the FBI crime statistics over the past quarter century.”

    Laughing. I think you might want to figure what percentage of the population of blacks you are talking about. The old percentage game needs new clothes. The issue as I note repeatedly is skin color to cause. What we know about skin color to unjust treatment is that whites own it and they own it completely.

    Now clearly there are some blacks who act against whites based on skin color. But even there the skin color is rarely the sole factor. That is historically not the case with whites to black acts in violation of ethics and the law. Sure crime stats among inner city populations are higher and that has always been the case for inner city populations regardless of skin color. The circumstance that blacks, no coincidence there occupy the lowest rungs of inner city environments and the dysfunctions that come with it will yield the higher percentages of crime among the black populations as they did for white Italians, Irish, Poles, etc. Not new, and no respecter of skin color. And sadly, unlike the ethos among whites and it is painful to acknowledge, as practice crime to skin color — is owned by whites — ohhh, here’s a secret — so says FBI crime stats.

    Now it would be a mistake to assume my position is a defense of criminal behavior by anyone. But if the author wants to tie reparations to crime then he has expanded the redress several fold that blacks have a very legitimate case to make based on the history —

    ——————-

    Your gambit about black on white crime was unmasked years ago — of course given that there are more whites than blacks hence increasing the number of targets criminals including black criminals would target would be definition be more whites than blacks as one would assume that criminal conduct is to money, location and opportunity . . . it makes perfect sense that white criminals would not target blacks as they are targets of little value. Hence white, black, yellow green or otherwise would target whites based on the perception of economic value – skin color is just a uniform in said circumstances. And not to cause . . .

    However on the issue of cause, whites to blacks remains as the higher incidence.

    It’s like bowling pins in an alley. If there are more white pins there is a greater chance that more white pins will be hit by the ball. It’s a numbers game for sure. But understanding what the numbers mean requires a much better grasp than the merely spitting out percentages.
    —————-

    Sadly, at every opportunity we have managed to short cut dealing with our black white history. Whether it is affirmative action, set asides for contracts whites always manage to undermine the programs to benefit themselves exacerbating the very issue at play regarding our history. Which should have always been US citizens first and last. The favorite game has been immigration and we are at it again shamelessly.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    , @anon
  47. I am known for zipping off comments without carefully proof reading — I take full ownership for said errors.

    Outside editing — I have no control over, if such occurs.

  48. That was fast,

    I was asked about the 40 acres as policy last week. As i have never run across anything official I havce always had to be tentative about what seemed to be a general understanding as opposed to policy.

    However, on doing a search here is some helpful information.

    https://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/the-truth-behind-40-acres-and-a-mule/

    https://www.wnyc.org/story/the-story-behind-40-acres-and-a-mule/

  49. KenH says:
    @Okechukwu

    I assure you, it’s much better than having no lips at all. That’s why white people injecting shit into their lips is a billion dollar industry.

    Collagen has many uses and only a part of that is white pepo using it for their lips. Some white people, like models and actresses, might be injecting shit into their lips, but I don’t think any of them are telling the collagen man to make their lips look just like Ta-Nehisi’s.

    And don’t forgot about all of the hair straightening and lightening products and skin lightening and fade creams that black people use.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  50. Wally says:
    @restless94110

    Oh please, this is what is observable to all but the deliberately blind.
    In every instance where blacks & browns are in great numbers, and / or control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we see:
    – massive murder rates
    – massive crime in general
    – degraded property
    – massive disease, especially STDs
    – massive drug & alcohol abuse
    – general filth, squalor
    – massive birthrates
    – inability / unwillingness to support their own children
    – massive youth pregnancies rates
    – massive school dropout rates
    – incredibly low IQs & test scores
    – violence as a way of life
    – fathers nowhere to be found

    Q: What do smarter blacks who make a few bucks do?
    A: Move out of black areas and into white areas.
    Q: What do foreign blacks do when given a chance?
    A. Get out of black countries and into majority white countries … any way they can.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @restless94110
  51. ‘Let’s Count Black-On-White Crime In Slavery Reparations Calculation!’

    Maybe we should just do it on an individual basis; how much have blacks inflicted on you personally versus how much have you personally inflicted on them.

    I’ve met a couple of people who’ve had relatives murdered by blacks; a daughter in one case, a husband in another. How much do you reckon those claims are worth?

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  52. When the whites are driven out, as in Detroit or Zimbabwe, or killed off, as in Haiti, the blacks end up with, well, Detroit, Zimbabwe and Haiti.

    If we’re going to try and paint ourselves as the reasonable side in the argument, we have to concede that Haiti was a hellish death pit even when the whites were there. French colonies were always the most nakedly rapacious murder factories, and the legacy lives on: former Francophone colonies are routinely the most deadly and dysfunctional places around today (Hello, Haiti! Cheerio, Central African Republic! Salut, Côte d’Ivoire!).

  53. @Mr McKenna

    That man need some liposuction.

  54. @EliteCommInc.

    “It’s like bowling pins in an alley. If there are more white pins there is a greater chance that more white pins will be hit by the ball. It’s a numbers game for sure.”

    Yeah, but somehow those white pins get disproportionately hit by black balls, not white ones. If your argument of opportunity made any sense, then the white majority would also be victimized more by white perpetrators, doubly so, since there are both more potential white victims and white perpetrators.

    Get a job.

  55. Logan says:

    But will the long-standing and massively disproportionate pattern of black-on-white rape, to say nothing of homicides, be factored into any slavery reparation calculation?

    This disproportion does, IMO, a good deal to disprove the dogma that “rape is a crime of violence, power and domination and is not sexual in any way.”

    If this were the case, white supremacists would clearly be devoted to the rape and domination of black women, which they aren’t.

    The most idiotic part of this dogma, of course, is the idea that sex can be isolated from issues of power, domination and submission, even in theory. This is a subset of the idea that sex is always good and kind, that any sex that is not good and kind isn’t really sex.

    This remarkably stupid idea is clung to because recognizing its falsity would require them to deal with the question of which variants of sexual behavior are not good. Hanging onto it allows them to pretend sex is always positive.

  56. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @jack daniels

    What “values needed for black success” do you imagine can overcome biology?

    “Studies find that darker pigmented people average higher levels of aggression and sexual activity (and also lower IQ).”

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912000840

    Magic Jebus can’t do shit to change Negro behavior, such a hope is as futile as Magic Dirt. You may as well try to teach a horse algebra; trying harder won’t help.

    • Replies: @TKK
  57. JackOH says:

    From my morning newspaper, this announcement of a grant from a local foundation founded and run by a standard-issue 1960s-type “liberal”, the scion of an old industrialist family (emphases mine):

    “The . . . Foundation awarded a . . . multiyear grant . . . to address the impact of mass criminalization and incarceration . . .”.

    ” . . . [D]esigned to change the state’s justice system from one of mass jailing . . .”.

    ” . . . [T]ackle issues such as bail reform, law enforcement accountability, and the school-to-prison pipeline . . .”.

    I edited sharply for brevity, but trust me on this one. The foundation’s director actually thinks like a wool-gathering intellectual.

    I’ll leave it to the Derb’s readers to ask whether this effectively means advocacy for non-enforcement of criminal laws, low-bail and no-bail policies, and who knows what else.

  58. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    The “n[igger]-word?” LOL A few points on treating the sacred word Nigger with the same reverence as the sacred word Jehovah, as follows:

    (a) “Nigger” is simply a highfalutin Latin word for “dark.” One g, two g’s, hard g, soft g, long i, short i, all variations are the exact same word, just like the countries in Africa, Nigger and Niggeria. Maybe they have only one g, who cares?

    (b) The Latin word Nigger, translated from the Greek word Νίγερ, is used in the Bible, King James Version, in Acts 13:1.

    (c) Former President Obama has endorsed the highbrow Latin term for black when “My Nigger” was used by an invited speaker at the 2016 White House Correspondent’s Dinner. Obama said there was no problem with the use of the phrase Yo, Barry, you did it, my nigger. You did it.” If the former President of the United States has no problem with it, neither should you.

  59. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    > Laughing.

    As the crackling of thorns under a pot.

  60. @anon

    He’s a professional nitwit. Facts are useless.

    Or is it a she?

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  61. @Colin Wright

    Most of us who have had the misfortune to live in a negro-infested metropolis have lost count of the number of crimes committed against us.

    And I don’t know (or even know of) a single white person who has ever commited a crime against a black person. But then (unlike most black people) I don’t really know any criminals.

  62. I guess when the case falters screaming the same failed contention concerning proportionality is another way to go.

    Old hat trick . . .

    Lessons in uncovering motive might be helpful, but as this gambit continues to be the popular card single card work doing the hard work maybe just too taxing western intellectual leisure at its finest.

    “Yeah, but somehow those white pins get disproportionately hit by black balls, not white ones. If your argument of opportunity made any sense, then the white majority would also be victimized more by white perpetrators, doubly so, since there are both more potential white victims and white perpetrators.”

    Uhhhhhh most crime is in fact owned by the same on same color populations. And I would include the crimes regarding the factor of location and relational dynamics. I see the commenter who thinks white plantation owners lived a harder life than blacks slaves in chiming in.

    That belief you espouse is not as funny as it used to be, but it remains funny. The liberal mind for all of it abandon hates relevant complexity

  63. 95Theses says:
    @Anon

    Ha! And yet … completely true.

  64. @Achmed E. Newman

    The pattern among our oriental commenters is pretty clear. That is – the US should always proceed in a manner that most benefits… orientals, whether they live in the Orient or in the US.

    Perhaps Lo should lobby to have a 10-20 million Congolese imported to Beijing or Seoul or Tokyo, so they can you know, do all of those things that Lo himself stated are great for the US. Maybe we could throw in a million US felonious negros while were at it, as a shot of ether to get this engine of benefits fired right up. As beneficial of Lo’s plan sounds, why even wait a couple generations for the full effects to reveal themselves? Let’s get the party started straight away!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  65. “Whites have their feckless, troublesome underclasses, too.”

    You know what John, every ethnicity has their feckless underclass. The problem in the US is that we must deal with not only our own feckless underclass, but the feckless underclass of Central America, Africa, Eastern Europe, and the whole of Asia.

    I imagine that if we got rid of all these other non white feckless underclassmen, our own feckless underclass would become quite a bit less feckless.

    At this point, what the feck do we have to lose?

  66. @HammerJack

    I believe he’s a boomer aged negro male. He was put on ignore long ago.

    • Replies: @Flossie
  67. White Americans have done their best to help Blacks solve it. We’ve done more than that, in fact; we have distorted our entire social system, twisted our laws, and spent trillions of dollars to help them.

    Egalitarianism is the real problem because it can’t fix the average IQ of Africans, or to be accurate Sub-Saharan Africans.

    Kevin MacDonald did an excellent review of David Hackett Fischer’s Fairness and Freedom: A History of Two Open Societies, New Zealand and the United States.

  68. @MikeatMikedotMike

    I was under the impression this guy was joking too, but still, no mention of the cost?

    I like your “feck”less comment below!

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  69. JackOH says:

    Wouldn’t it be possible to come up with an economic analysis that compares America with Black folks, mostly as slaves and then as freedmen, and an alternate America without Blacks?

    Would the Jamestown colony have survived? How would Southern agriculture have been affected? Would the South have felt pressure to industrialize? How would the absence of the Civil War and Reconstruction benefited both North and South? What would our cities be like today absent civil rights laws and race rioting?

    What would America’s per capita income and GDP be today without Blacks?

    I’m not sure you could find an economics guy or an academic institution that would support such a study. But, I’m not sure you can’t either.

  70. @Wally

    Dude, what are you saying oh please for.

    My comment was that welfare is NOT racist in any way and therefore higher failure and crime rates are obvioiusly racially based and have nothing to do with welfare programs.

    In other words, I AM AGREEING WITH YOU.

    Please beef up on your reading skills, Doctor.

    • Replies: @Wally
  71. Now I usually babysit people through the numbers but it’s better that they get the point via the data.

    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf

    http://www.huffpost.com/entry/white-on-white-crime-an-u_b_6771878

    http://www.colorlines.com/articles/3-stats-department-justice-disprove-racist-talking

    Again despite the repeated attempts. I don’t reject the proportionality arguments that are pressed. Though those numbers have been effectively refuted previously. I just am not that concerned that a small percentage of blacks such that i would support policies hastily generalized on the same. And that has been the gambit for most of US history. And that has created a very serious problem for the the black population as it did for other outsiders, save that the other outsiders could assimilate on the basis of color — not the case for blacks.

    Good grief, anyone taking on reparations who wants to include: redlining, zoning laws. employment and housing discrimination and other criminal conduct in the equation is simply asking for trouble. I would avoid the national “jim crow” practices across the country much less the south.

    Never mind that the formula itself is a false comparison as the matters are not in any way linked. —

    except as it applies to how whites managed the socialization of blacks — several oil drums full of worms . . .

    I would advise against it.

  72. @Technomad

    That’s true. The legacy of the GAR still affects us (the 1934 gun control bill) as well as surviving descendants drawing pensions. The GAR had some unbelievable influence postwar that dragged on after all of them were gone.

    The finding of shells isn’t limited to battlefields, either. Relic hunters have found caches of shells along the route of the retreat from Petersburg to Appomattox.

    Good points.

  73. Okechukwu says:
    @KenH

    Collagen has many uses and only a part of that is white pepo using it for their lips. Some white people, like models and actresses, might be injecting shit into their lips, but I don’t think any of them are telling the collagen man to make their lips look just like Ta-Nehisi’s.

    Dude, nobody wants to walk around with no lips. It isn’t just white models and actresses either. If it were you wouldn’t have all the horror stories of lip jobs gone terribly wrong among ordinary white people.

    I can tell you from personal experience that since grade school white girls have been drawn to my full lips. It’s one of the things white girls love about black guys.

    For all the lipless white people out there, this is the pot of gold at the end of the surgical rainbow:

  74. @Achmed E. Newman

    If he was joking then it was well delivered, and thanks.

  75. “The question I’d put before Congress is not: “Should whites do more?” but, “How much more can whites be expected to do?””

    The best thing for you to do is to move yourself and your Chinese family to China. Your Chinese wife and daughter voted for Obummer so I’m sure they would give reparations to blacks.

    We don’t need you to solve our problems. Remember, you’re an English import who then imported a Chinese communist woman. You and your family have no ties to the USA.

  76. anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Not the case for blacks, because blacks are a cancer on peaceful society.

    Asians have the lowest rates, followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups. In 2013, a black was six times more likely than a non-­black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race.

    The Color of Crime – American Renaissance
    https://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/

    Around blacks, never relax.

  77. Reparations will do no complete Justice.
    Complete justice could be only done by repatriation.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @anon
  78. Wally says:
    @restless94110

    Then I misinterpreted you when you said:

    “This was not race based and had nothing whatsoever to do with racism, only with Puritanism.”

    Apologies.

    • Replies: @restless94110
  79. Baxter says:

    I grew up outside Birmingham, Alabama.
    Would you like a personal tour of Negro accomplishment.
    Whoever mentioned America may be reaching ‘peak negro’ is on to something. Two things have happened in the United States. One, whites who can get away from blacks are having to move further and further out and two, the non-white, non-black population of America has exploded. Mexicans and Chinese and Arabs don’t give a rats ass about black people and all their damn problems. They just don’t have the numbers to brush them away.
    Very interesting the our multiracial society is moving.
    For my part, I’m will be bailing on the South when the nigggers take over. No point in saving this ship.
    Here me now, believe me later. YOU CANT FIX BLACK DYSFUNCTION And YOU CANT REPAIR BLACK DESTRUCTION!

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  80. The best reparation is repatriation. You only have to change a few letters, but the benefit will be enormous.

    And now that we at it, let us exchange the 40 million American Blacks for the 4 million South African Whites. In both cases Blacks will be freed from “racist” Whites and Whites from “anti-racist” Blacks. A win-win situation!

    I HAVE A DREAM !
    (paraphrased from Marcus Garvey)

  81. “Not the case for blacks, because blacks are a cancer on peaceful society.”

    Okay, just a note, that is not what proportionality tells us. It describes or denotes a particular construct it does not explain the liklihood of an entire population.

    In my 20 odd or so years of living in this community despite the presence of blacks, the criminal activity I have experienced has come at the hands of whites or browns. I should never relax because I don’t know which white or brown is going to steal something that is not theirs. By your reasoning of my criminal experience, I should expect any crime against me to be committed by a white or brown 100% of the time.

    That has been how proportionality arguments have been used, but that is a misuse. Because it assumes the cause as to skin color as opposed other salient factors. And it explains what our established system regarding black relational dynamic is so out of whack. Because it is applied to the whole what is only accurate to a percentage and a small percenatage at that. And why police engage in heavy handed tactics with blacks across the nation — justified in no small part that blackness alone is by definition m ore criminal prone —

    entirely false rationale but one that has served whites well.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Wally
  82. Who do you compensate for getting rid of maggots?

    • Replies: @Truth
  83. PeterMX says:

    It’s too bad this discussion was never held regarding the “Holocaust”. Of course the narratives are quite different and the Jews are absent of any discussion of WW II, except as victims. Their leading role in starting the war has been covered up as well as their dominant role in Germany’s main ideological enemy, the Soviet Union. From there we can go on to discuss the atrocity propaganda lies such as soap and lampshades made from Jews as well as so many other lies. But it doesn’t matter. No matter how many lies are exposed there is never any pushback regarding Jewish guilt for anything. In addition, it takes lot of courage to stand up for the truth when the mainstream media are shameless liars and ignoramuses as well, and then there is the fact that many countries will imprison you if you dispute the Jewish narrative of WW II. What power those innocent bystanders have.

    • Agree: anarchyst, HEREDOT
    • Replies: @Alden
  84. Paul says:

    “Let’s Count Black-On-White Crime In Slavery Reparations Calculation!”

    Who can argue with that?

  85. Blacks should pay reparations to the Khoisan and Pygmies for the Bantu Expansion.

    • Replies: @Truth
  86. anarchyst says:

    American whites have been “conditioned” to accept the so-called “civil-rights (for some)” movement by the “tribe” from the mid 1950s on to the present. The “conditioning” started with the whole “civil-rights (for some)” movement which WAS spearheaded, run and controlled by leftist jews. I personally witnessed the shenanigans, distortions, and downright fraud of this whole “civil-rights (for some)” movement. I didn’t need to be “red pilled” to see where this jewish-run and controlled white dispossession was taking us.
    It took the use of federal troops to force us whites (at the point of bayonets) to succumb to this whole “civil-rights (for some)” mess. The use of federal troops to cow us whites into accepting their own destruction was a brilliant move by the jews. As us whites were and still are extremely law-abiding, it was easy to intimidate us. Actually, the use of federal troops for domestic law-enforcement purposes was (and still is) illegal…
    Hard times WILL flush out the liberal whites, as well as the environmentalists who care about bunnies and trees over human beings. When that day comes, let ’em starve…
    There are more of us whites who know what is going on than most realize. Us whites who are aware keep a low profile due to the volatile atmosphere that we live in. The threat of job loss, real violent threats to our families (that will not be addressed by “the powers that be”) and other considerations keep us from overtly expressing our true feelings on these matters, but the time will come. Us whites are very slow to act (and react), but when we do, look out…when “push comes to shove” we will take back our birthright…
    White people’s biggest problem is having a genetic predisposition of empathy for the outsider. This was the result of the “brainwashing” of whites, over decades by jewish interests. It is no secret that jews were behind the so-called “civil-rights” push of the 1950s and 1960s. We used to have a saying: “behind every negro, there is a jew” (instigating violence against whites)…
    It is the unique sense of externalized white altruism that has made so-called “civil-rights (for some)” laws possible. “Affirmative action”, contract set-asides and preferences, other government “programs” for minorities only, unrestricted immigration from third-world countries while white Americans “need not apply”. . .and other unequal treatment has resulted in more-qualified whites being denied opportunities that would rightly be theirs. This is externalized (white) altruism in action. . . NO OTHER RACE has EVER given people of other races a “break” . . .
    It has never happened in the history of humanity, save our own. . .if not stopped immediately, externalized white altruism will spell the end of the white race. Will other races adopt the concept of externalized (white) altruism?? I think not . . .
    It is only whites that are expected to shed all vestiges of racial cohesiveness, while those of other races take advantage of our largesse and misguided externalized altruism…

  87. anarchyst says:

    Let me get this right…
    It is necessary for a black student to sit next to a white student in order to learn. THAT has been the premise since the 1950s with the flawed “Brown v. Board of Education” Supreme Court ruling. The (few) decent blacks in existence should have been outraged by that ruling.
    The premise that blacks NEED whites to assure educational opportunities has been proven FALSE, because even a few disruptive blacks are enough to disrupt the “education process” for everyone else.
    I personally witnessed the destruction of the Detroit “education system”, which was fueled by blacks, who thought that they were invincible and did not have to conform to (white) societal norms. The public schools in the 1960s were turned into “zoos” where “anything goes”. Teachers did the minimum and just “went through the motions” as attempting to “correct” bad behavior by blacks was not allowed. The black school administrators saw to that…
    Once in a great while, there was a teacher who truly cared about education and would covertly see to it that those whites who were “stuck” in these dysfunctional institutions were nurtured and given the proper attention, while disregarding the antics of the feral blacks who actually ran these dysfunctional institutions.
    If you were a white child attending these schools, you were routinely harassed, robbed, beaten, and even worse by blacks, with no support from those who should have put a stop to such behavior. As “neighborhood schools” were the norm, there was no way out for white students assigned to these dysfunctional schools.
    Since school integration did not work, in the 1970s, court-ordered forced “bussing” of white students into predominantly urban black schools was the next social experiment that ruined many suburban schools and the educational opportunities for whites.
    In fact, it was routine for blacks to form “black student organizations” (with jewish civil-rights “handlers” help). Even the American flag was replaced with the “Black Students Union” flag at many Detroit public schools.
    Public education has been ruined by blacks. PERIOD. There…I’ve said it…

  88. anarchyst says:

    It’s the JEWS. It’s always the JEWS…
    I came of age during the first so-called “civil-rights” movement and saw for myself the underhanded dealings, the demonization of decent, law-abiding whites, and in general, the deterioration of civil society.
    Almost all of the “civil-rights” workers and demonstration “handlers” were of one persuasion–New York based leftist communist jews. They cared not one wit about true “civil rights”, but were there to create hate and discontent among their black charges (who were too stupid or naive to see that they were being used to suborn and destroy legitimate government and society–a favorite communist tactic). These New York-based “carpetbaggers” fomented their hate and discontent, only to become future “civil-rights” attorneys, race-hustlers, and America-hating leftist communists.
    The so-called “non-violent civil-rights demonstrations” were anything but “non-violent”. Robberies, rapes, and other criminal acts were common, but never reported, as even the “mainstream media” was “in on the game” and conveniently turned off their cameras during the acts of violence. You see, even then,”creating crises” was a part of the agenda.
    The “beginning of the end” of America was the use of federal troops against white Americans, which, in itself was a violation of “posse commitatus”–the prohibition on the use of federal troops for domestic “law enforcement” purposes. As most whites were (and still are) law-abiding, they (we) were “steamrollered” by the use of federal troops to crush honest dissent. We never recovered from those unconstitutional actions. It was all downhill from there…

  89. @anon

    I have trouble believing the top number, which seems like it should be even smaller. Are we sure they didn’t include “White Hispanics” in that number?

  90. Stick says:

    John, between the Latino invasion and Planned Parenthood I doubt Blacks stand a chance in America long term. Oddly, Maxine Waters maintains her Congressional district even though it is no longer a black majority district. You are correct, blacks provide a wonderful weapon and shield to our betters on behalf of globalist imported Latinos and now Somalis. My son just graduated from a Fairfax County public high school. It was obvious the minorities at this school, 10 miles from the Capital, were whites and blacks, on the order of making up less than 10% of the class combined. I went to a school near this high school in 1967 and there was no such thing as Hispanics. It was white. We were exploring space, fighting an endless war in Vietnam in 1967 until blacks decided to burn out their Jewish merchants from coast to coast. For that, a year later, I was demoted to a second class citizen because of Jewish Usury towards blacks.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  91. “It is necessary for a black student to sit next to a white student in order to learn. THAT has been the premise since the 1950s with the flawed “Brown v. Board of Education” Supreme Court ruling. The (few) decent blacks in existence should have been outraged by that ruling.”

    No the premise was separate but equal. Long the separate very short on the equal.

    • Replies: @Wally
  92. APilgrim says:

    Tee it up … ‘Reparations’ will likely be paid in lead (Pb).

    ‘2020 Democrats Address Poverty and Systemic Racism at Presidential Forum’, By Thomas Kaplan, WASHINGTON, June 17, 2019, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/17/us/politics/poor-peoples-forum-2020.html

    Mr. Biden suggested that those who cannot conceive of compromising with the opposition might as well “start a real, physical revolution.” “Folks, look, if you start off with the notion there’s nothing you can do, well, might you all go home then, man?” he said. “Or let’s start a real, physical revolution if you’re talking about it. Because we have to be able to change what we’re doing within our system.”

  93. RVBlake says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Blacks “walked off the plantation” only due to the sacrifices, willing or not, of Northern White boys in uniform.

  94. @ThreeCranes

    Obama pays 50 percent. His daddy wasn’t a slave, but his momma was an oppressor.

  95. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    > By your reasoning of my criminal experience

    Try as you might to deprecate them, those are Federal U.S. Gov’t statistics.

    > police engage in heavy handed tactics with blacks

    Wrong.

    The evidence suggests that if there is police racial bias in arrests it is negligible. Victim and witness surveys show that police arrest violent criminals in close proportion to the rates at which criminals of different races commit violent crimes.

    The Color of Crime
    https://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/

    A recent deadly force study by Washington State University researcher Lois James found that police officers were less likely to shoot unarmed black suspects than unarmed white or Hispanic ones… Harvard economics professor, Roland Fryer… found that blacks were 24% less likely than whites to be shot by officers even though the suspects were armed or violent [in Houston]

    New Report: Whites Actually Way More Likely to Be Shot By Police…
    https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/report-whites-more-likely-shot-police/

  96. @Stick

    STICK

    You make a good point. The Mestizos and Indians are festering further and further North. In the old days when you heard of gangs or cartels it was down in the Sonora deserts of Arizona or Southern California.

    Now the Mestizos are everywhere as far North as Maine.

    • Replies: @Biff
  97. The whole reparations thing is just Democrat talk to get votes from the terminally stupid. It will never happen.

    The perp admitted to the rape. Real justice would be to hand the victim a pistol and allow her to define what just punishment is while facing this piece of human trash.

  98. APilgrim says:

    Globally, Blacks are low-IQ socialists.

    Now they threaten & extort.

    I look forward too their next, more violent, moves.

    • Replies: @Truth
  99. Biff says:
    @jeff stryker

    You make a good point. The Mestizos and Indians are festering further and further North. In the old days when you heard of gangs or cartels it was down in the Sonora deserts of Arizona or Southern California.

    And this has what to do with the original topic?

    Lately the comments sections are getting of topic so quick it’s impossible to weed out the garbage without ditching the whole debate.

  100. Markster says:

    It you want something destroyed give it to a black man. South Africa is now the latest project slated for demolition by the brothers. In our hemisphere Haiti is old news but all the West Indian islands that were the jewels of the colonial powers and now in black hands are in a mess. In the US of course we have the usual cities which have been reduced to dumps. These people are so dumb that when they get angry they burn down their own neighborhoods ! And to add insult to injury, the race hustlers who egg them on choose to live in the white hoods or if they live with the homies they even have security hiding under the kitchen sink. Where reparations are concerned I dont know how that is ever going to work. Even Obama thought it was ludicrous. No matter. Even if you give them money said funds will end up back in the hands of non-blacks and those who received the dollars will be broke again because the black man never thinks of the future. As long as he can buy the latest sneakers, jeans and cell phone and weed he is happy. He lives for today and blames everyone for yesterday and tomorrow. All other races have been slaves but have moved on. The black man is still a slave although of his own mind and in his own mind. There are some who have become successful and others who long for a peaceful life away and apart from the troublemakers in their sphere. These decent ones are few and far between. The rest, who find the US so abominable should return to Africa and see how loving the local Dictators are. Let’s face it, slavery was an abomination but the black man of today won a lottery by being in America. They are just too dumb and backward to recognize it !

    • Agree: Ilyana_Rozumova
  101. @Okechukwu

    Afro Brothers with the BBC will also be drawn to your lips.

    • Replies: @Truth
  102. Truth says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    …So when’s the next flight to Moscow?

  103. Truth says:
    @Baxter

    For my part, I’m will be bailing on the South when the nigggers take over. No point in saving this ship.

    Who is stopping you from moving to Wyoming now?

    • Replies: @TKK
  104. Truth says:
    @ImmortalRationalist

    Considering there were no written languages (sic), how does this author know all this?

    • Replies: @KenH
  105. Wally says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    So where do you live? Tell us so we can check the crime demographic stats and verify what you claim

    Ah.

    See my post #50 for the irrefutable facts.

  106. Truth says:
    @APilgrim

    I look forward too their next, more violent, moves.

    …I’m hoping you get them.

    • Replies: @WSG
  107. Truth says:
    @Black Anaconda

    Spend a lot of time thinking about the BBC, do we?

    • Replies: @Black Anaconda
  108. Alden says:
    @PeterMX

    Main ingredient of soap is oil or fat. I’ve always wondered, if they were starved into skin and bones, how much fat could be extracted to make into soap? Really, actually, how much fat would there be on a 5’5 80 pd woman or 5’9 100 pd man????

    And how would it be extracted from the 6 trillion gazillion corpses? Butchering the bodies as they do animals? Removing the skin and then scraping off the outer layers of fat? Do humans have lots of fat around the kidneys as pigs do?

    Or did they render the fat out of the bodies? Did they boil the corpses in humongous vats for hours? Then what? Maybe like when making soup or stew; let the vats cool so the fat rises to the top of the pot and solidifies and can be scraped off???

  109. I would like to add that if an African American has been charged with a violent crime, bank fraud, property crime, personation, parole violation, dishonorable discharge or a weapons offence he is automatically eliminated from the reparations pool. Add to the list as you see fit.

  110. TKK says:
    @anon

    When I was a young foolish lawyer, I would spend time counseling young black men on how to stay out of trouble.

    Impassioned speeches with concrete plans of action. I even made phone calls for a few who could speak properly to get jobs.

    Not one of them ever stayed out of trouble. Worse, they showed no insight, comprehension or spark of intelligence that the path they were on was a dead end. They just sort of stared at me, got out and did the same crimes.

    I stopped trying to penetrate that slack eyed gaze and just did the legal work.

    It came full circle. A young man I represented 15 years ago approached a woman with a gun at an ATM and violently jerked a gold chain off her neck. I got him 10 years when they offered 30.

    Recently, the grandmother called to ask if I could represent the son of this man for shoplifting and trespass.

    They can’t be helped.
    They deserve no more help.
    We don’t share any common values.
    The only solution is two states or send them back to Sub Sahara Africa.

    Note: The trillions of dollars sent to Africa through taxation and charitable contributions- what did it change?

    They are the Global Retards, and should be left to die off or live in their dystopian societies.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    , @Truth
    , @anon
  111. @Baxter

    Urban leaders often like Hispanic immigration because they will forcefully push Blacks out of the neighborhood and the crime rate will drop. They open little businesses and, in general, possess a better work ethic and attitude. At a certain point, Whites will move back into the neighborhood. This is happening in Compton, California.

  112. @TKK

    I agree. I don’t think that Blacks and non-Whites can live together peacefully unless the non-Blacks are firmly in control.

    A fellow I know told me about a liberal niece of his who chose to work in an inner city school (can’t remember but might be Newark, NJ). A year later and asked about the job. “Those goddamned niggers” was her reply.

    I mentioned repeatedly about a friend who taught at an all-black inner city middle school in Akron, Ohio. Few of the kids had ambitions beyond going on welfare or joining gangs and 10-15% of the girls were pregnant at any given time. Women purposely got pregnant in order to collect welfare. Originally, Ohio paid 5 years per baby, then 3, thinking that would discourage baby breeding for fun and profit. It didn’t – women just had babies every 3 years. Her husband said that they wouldn’t work even if the jobs came back.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @Truth
  113. “So where do you live? Tell us so we can check the crime demographic stats and verify what you claim.”

    Ah, well you are getting there, location is part of the equation to accurate assess the proportional contend incorrectly applied to an entire populous. Keep at it you’ll get there. The statistical analysis used in manufacturing and objective constructs has been incorrectly applied to human populations as though human behavior is purely object and said humans are machines —–

    It has been the cause of a good deal of harm and devastating inaccuracies leading to policy and practices predicated in false assumption. You and the creator of Harry potter would make great pals.

    Stats are an important tool — the trick is to apply them correctly. To date for me I am 100% more likely to be robbed by a white person than a black person. And that is based on objective experience. Stats can be a very tricky and misleading gambit – loaded with agendas as is plainly visible.

  114. TKK says:
    @Truth

    Cost.

    A double wide 100 miles from Jackson Hole is $350,000.

    The best I have found is far far North Minnesota. Not near the Somalian hubs.

    100 acres and 3/2 for $150,000.

    Up by the Border. But- there are no jobs.

    You have to already have all your money made.

    WV used to be a good choice, but the lack of jobs created a massive thieving culture. Also, I have no desire to get in neighborhood dispute with people who chain up and starve their dogs, steal from your shed etc.

    Go where’s it’s desolate and cold.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @newrouter
  115. @jack daniels

    “Derbyshire characteristically fails to note the role played by white liberal policy-makers in worsening the situation of blacks with regard to crime and family integrity….Derbyshire doesn’t want to bring Jews into it…If you are afraid to speak the truth it is better to be quiet than to promote a half-truth.”

    Cut him some slack. He’s received repeated beatings from the MSM and the existing power structure, and still fights the good fight. What sacrifices have you made?

  116. I will pick on police unions because they have made crime stats an art form of deception.

    Roughly 100 law enforcement officers lose their life each year. Let’s say that last year there were 100 officers. That number demonstrated an increase of some 40% from the previous year. One might exclaim “There’s a war on police”.

    Before making that assessment one would have to dig into the causes of said losses. As it turns out of that that 40% only 10 were homicides. Of those homicides only three were inflicted by some assailant. — Just an example —

    During the campaign my candidate plastered the these kinds of percentages to advance a war on police to gin up votes — a scare tactic. In reality the increase represented a total of some five officers, several killed in one incident of I recall. And the total represented less than 1% of the total law enforcement community. There was nor is there war on police. But one would not know that unless they dove into the stats and especially what the stats are and what they potentially mean in reality.

  117. Truth says:
    @TKK

    Recently, the grandmother called to ask if I could represent the son of this man for shoplifting and trespass.

    Did you take the $$$?

  118. Truth says:
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    You guy’s anecdotes are so cute.

  119. @Okechukwu

    You’re an inversion of the white racists. I find white women with pouting lips ugly and stupid. Just like whites getting suntanned or going for plastic surgery to enhance whatever. Of course it’s all a business so they promote it but it has nothing to do with enhancing aesthetic appeal. Oh, and Michael Jackson thought that having small lips and white skin was great too.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  120. Truth says:
    @TKK

    A double wide 100 miles from Jackson Hole is $350,000.

    So move to Laramie. There is a fairly-large state college there, and lots of ambulances for you to chase.

    WV used to be a good choice, but the lack of jobs created a massive thieving culture.

    Wow, that sounds familiar.

  121. @Truth

    Read my moniker ! I think of it AND you !!

  122. Okechukwu says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Of course it’s all a business so they promote it but it has nothing to do with enhancing aesthetic appeal.

    You just keep telling yourself that.

    In the meantime, a white woman with pale skin, no lips and a bony ass ain’t winning no beauty contests.

    • Replies: @KenH
  123. Well, well, well. Isn’t this interesting. The Federal Government, back in the day, was interested in protecting the value of its tax expenditures (now called investments) and chief amongst the considerations was racial composition and harmony

    This was before the Feds, Quakers, and Marxists of the Frankfurt School * teemed-up to destroy Ethnic Catholic Communities – see Dr. E. Michael Jones’ The Slaughter of Cities Urban Renewal as Ethic Cleansing – which was the program by the Catholic-Hating Federal Government to destroy the then rising political power of Catholics owing to the solidarity, sensibilities, subsidiary, and collective moral and spiritual cohesion of the Ethnic Catholic, Polish, German, Italian etc, Parishes and Neighborhoods).

    This was all before Ethnic Catholics let their own selves be corrupted with the idea that they were white; as if, that was a legitimate identity (were the Catholic Italians the same as the Catholic Polish, and were those two groups the same as the Catholics Germans?) rather than Catholic as THE Identity marker that served spiritual, doctrinal, moral, social, and cultural cohesion.

    Well, maybe you think that Catholic Germans have the same weltanschauung as do the Protestant Germans, who knows?

    In any event, this information is accessed at an internal link in this interesting column by the always radical (in a good way) Mr. Fulford

    https://vdare.com/articles/the-fulford-file-george-will-or-the-intern-who-wrote-his-book-denies-his-past?scroll_to_paragraph=16

    “Racial” Provisions of FHA Underwriting Manual, 1936

    [MORE]

    228. Deed restrictions are apt to prove more effective than a zoning ordinance in providing protection from adverse influences. Where the same deed restrictions apply over a broad area and where these restrictions relate to types of structures, use to which improvements may be put, and racial occupancy, a favorable condition is apt to exist. Where adjacent lots or blocks possess altogether different restrictions, especially for type and use of structures and racial occupancy, the effect of such restrictions is minimized and adequate protection cannot be considered to be present. . . . It must be realized that deed restrictions, to be effective, must be enforced. In this respect they are like zoning ordinances. Where there is the possibility of voiding the deed restrictions through inadequate enforcement of their provisions, the restrictions themselves offer little or no protection against adverse influences.”

    229. The geographical position of a location may afford in certain instances reliable protection against adverse influences. If the location lies in the middle of an area well developed with a uniform type of residential properties, and if the location is away from main arteries which would logically be used for business purposes, probability of a change in type, use, or occupancy of properties at this location is remote. The Valuator should consider carefully the immunity or lack of immunity offered to the location because of its geographical position within the city. Natural or artificially established barriers will prove effective in protecting a neighborhood and the locations within it from adverse influences. Usually the protection against adverse influences afforded by these means include prevention of the infiltration of business and industrial uses, lower-class occupancy, and inharmonious racial groups.
    233. The Valuator should investigate areas surrounding the location to determine whether or not incompatible racial and social groups are present, to the end that an intelligent prediction may be made regarding the possibility or probability of the location being invaded by such groups. If a neighborhood is to retain stability it is necessary that properties shall continue to be occupied by the same social and racial classes. A change in social or racial occupancy generally leads to instability and a reduction in values. The protection offered against adverse changes should be found adequate before a high rating is given to this feature. Once the character of a neighborhood has been established it is usually improssible to induce a higher social class than those already in the neighborhood to purchase and occupy properties in its various locations.
    The social class of the parents of children at the school will in many instances have a vital bearing. Thus, although physical surrounds of a neighborhood area may be favorable and conducive to enjoyable, pleasant living in its locations, if the children of people living in such an area are compelled to attend school where the majority or a goodly number of the pupils represent a far lower level of society or an incompatible racial element, the neighborhood under consideration will prove far less stable and desirable than than if this condition did not exist. In such an instance it might well be that for the payment of a fee children of this area could attend another school with pupils of their same social class. The question for the Valuator to determine is the effect created by the necessity for making this payment upon the occupants of the location. Under any conditions the rating could not be favorable as if the desirable school were available without additional cost. In many instances where a school has earned a prestige through the class of pupils attending, it will be found that such prestige will be a vital element in maintaining the desirability of the entire area comprising the school district.”
    Special Considerations in Rating Undeveloped Subdivisions and Partially Developed Residential Areas

    284 (3). Recorded deed restrictions should strengthen and supplement zoning ordinances and to be really effective should include the provisions listed below. The restrictions should be recorded with the deed and should run for a period of at least twenty years. Recommended restrictions include the following:
    (a) Allocation of definite areas for specific uses such as single or double-family houses, apartments, and business structures.
    (b) The placement of buildings so that they will have adequate light and air with assurance of a space of at least ten feet between buildings.
    (c) Prohibition of the resubdivision of lots.
    (d) Prohibition of the erection of more than one dwelling per lot.
    (e) Control of the design of all buildings through requiring their approval by a qualified committee and by appropriate cost limitations.
    (f) Prohibition of nuisances or undesirable buildings such as stables, pig pens, temporary dwellings, and high fences.
    (g) Prohibition of the occupancy of properties except by the race for which they were intended.
    (h) Appropriate provisions for enforcement.
    289 (1). Adequacy of Civic, Social, and Commercial Centers.– These elements of comfortable living usually follow rather than precede development. Those centers serving the city or section in which the development is situated should be readily available to its occupants. Schools should be appropriate to the needs of the new community and they should not be attended in large numbers by inharmonious racial groups. Employment centers, preferably diversified in nature, should be at a convenient distance.
    Bold highlighting added by creator of this WWW page.
    Source: Federal Housing Administration, Underwriting Manual: Underwriting and Valuation Procedure Under Title II of the National Housing Act With Revisions to April 1, 1936 (Washington, D.C.), Part II, Section 2, Rating of Location.[1]
    [1] In Forbidden Neighbors (New York: Harper & Brothers, 1955),162, Charles Abrams cites an FHA Underwriting Manual dated November 1, 1936. Thus, it appears as if more than one manual was issued in that year.
    This This WWW page was created by Wendy Plotkin ([email protected]) in 1998 and updated on 1 September 2003.

    * https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-12/birth-cultural-marxism-how-frankfurt-school-changed-america

  124. @Truth

    There’s a big difference between the jobs leaving you, and you chasing away the jobs.

    As Tacitus observed, “They make a food desert, and call it peace, out yo.”

    • Replies: @Truth
  125. @Okechukwu

    He is just angry. I sort of understand his anger. After living in NYC for 25 plus years, I am in full agreement with him when it comes to black Americans. Just not in what to do with them.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  126. Anonymous[224] • Disclaimer says:

    She was a white girl. She deserved it because us minorities have been through slavery … This is what they used to do to us. This is what they did to us during slavery. They used to beat us and whip us.

    So, what kind of prison sentences can we expect for (((people))) who trained him to think like this?

  127. @jack daniels

    Jack…..you got it right. Jews have always been the masters of the blacks. They are the organizers of NAACP and for the most part still run it. They have now taught the blacks that they are victims and that’s the reason they can’t succeed. The greatest hypocrisy is that the Jews (Sephardic) ran most of the slave routes, ships, and funded them.

    The present day blacks are less intelligent in many ways when it comes understanding the world than the previous black generation. These young animals believe they can just gang bang society and fear no law. This is what Obama taught them in the Michael Brown case etc. Riot immediately because there is no truth. They do this every time a black is shot by a police officer no matter what happened.

    America is on the road to complete collapse and the reparation scheme is just another small part of the Jewish demise of whites. If you want to look at the future look at Africa because that’s the tribal lawlessness that they want. You know because they waz kings and queens!

  128. @EliteCommInc.

    “That stats on crime are repeatedly that to cause whites are by far the largest perpetrators”

    You must not live near blacks.
    In my county blacks are about 24 % of the population but black county jail inmates comprise about 75% of the jail population.

  129. @EliteCommInc.

    It’s the pernicious legacy of redlining that leads feral blacks to savage random old ladies, unprovoked, in our urban centers? Managers looking for data entry clerks in the 1970s signaling to each other that a potential hire was a “nice guy,” wink wink, makes blacks in 2019 coat every open surface of their neighborhood with litter?

    Yeah, let’s do talk about all these raycial injussisses when we discuss reparations. Then let’s finally have an honest conversation about how 5% of the kids are causing 95% of the problems at my kids’ school, and at the playground, and at the pool, and at the mall, and in any public space, and how these kids could be the poster chillins for a Crayola 24-pack: all the vibrant Shades of Shade.

    We’re getting close to epigenetic arguments for a total lack of impulse control. Yes, your honor, Daquan “DooDoo” Washington clocked an Estonian tourist on the Magnificent Mile, shattering her jaw, but she had just refused him a cigarette, and then there’s the redlining……

  130. Flossie says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I assumed it was a black female with a graduate degree. They’re the worst . . .

  131. WSG says:
    @anon

    A better question would be: how much does a civilization cost?

  132. WSG says:
    @Okechukwu

    I’ve lived around tons of orcs, each more useless than its predecessor. Are they for real? Are they so stupid that they don’t realize how egregiously they suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect? What’s up?

  133. Well, it’s all trivial:

    a) no race can live with blacks more or less harmoniously

    b) nothing can be done. US will become a huge Brazil with nukes, basically a 2nd rate world power & incorrigible dumb liberal whites will naturally die out. Some kind of natural re-segregation will become the new/old norm of behavior & life.

  134. al anon says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Nope to both of you. His Momma’s ancestry includes some black slave.

  135. WSG says:
    @Truth

    You really don’t have much future-time-orientation, do you, Mr. Orc?

  136. anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @TKK

    Abraham Lincoln already tried shipping them back to Liberia. Another solution is genocide, which is going to happen to one or the other of us as predicted by Thomas Jefferson.

    “It will probably be asked, Why not retain and incorporate the blacks into the State [instead of colonizing them]? Deep rooted prejudices entertained by the whites, ten thousand recollections by the blacks of the injuries they have sustained, new provocations, the real distinctions which nature has made, and many other circumstances will divide us into parties and produce convulsions which will probably never end but in the extermination of the one or the other race.” -Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Va., 1782.

  137. Okechukwu says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    No one cares if some moronic immigrant is angry. He can take his sorry ass back to wherever the fuck he came from.

    For that matter, no one cares if you’re angry. The last thing anyone should be worrying about is whether or not some white supremacist pinheads are angry. Going all the way back to slavery, trying to mollify the anger of white supremacists has been ruinous to this country.

    • Replies: @WSG
  138. anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Abraham Lincoln tried sending them back to Liberia; civilizations that get too soft for genocide get genocided.

    “A Civilization is a dominant community that imposes its beliefs upon all other communities by violence, which must involve the use of genocide; so any community that recoils from inflicting genocide will suffer genocide.” –Philip Atkinson

    “Genocide is as human as art or prayer.” -John Gray, School Professor of European Thought at the London School of Economics and Political Science (retired)

    Now we prey.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  139. Okechukwu says:
    @anon

    There were no Ilyana Rozumova types anywhere near the Continental Congress or in Lincoln’s cabinet or in the US government generally. You weren’t even considered “white” back then. As a matter of fact, in the early part of the 20th century white supremacists worked to have you all deported back to your Eastern European shitholes.

    Go back to Russia, Ukraine or whatever dysfunctional cesspit you fled from. We don’t want a piece of shit like you in our country talking about genociding people.

  140. timmothy2 says:

    I would be OK with reparations to blacks if only the wealthy whites pay for it. After all, it was the white aristocracy legalized slavery, owned slaves and benefited from it. It was their economic system. It was their racist propaganda and indoctrination that promoted racist views among white workers.

    I would not be against a progressive tax on the wealthy to pay for the reparations. However, it would not be a remedy.

  141. WSG says:
    @Okechukwu

    The last thing anyone should be worrying about is whether or not some Stone Age cretins are unhappy. Trying to placate a race of proto-humans has been ruinous to this country.

    Fixed that for you.

    • Troll: Okechukwu
  142. KenH says:
    @Truth

    Considering there were no written languages (sic), how does this author know all this?

    Probably the same way that ideological leftist historians and blacks supremacists suddenly discovered that black Africa was home to some of the most advanced civilizations long before whitey became numero uno.

    So with no written language you can’t claim black Africa was just like Wakanda thousands of years ago but deny that black African tribes did all of the same things that whitey stands accused of such as genocide, slavery and colonialism.

  143. KenH says:
    @Okechukwu

    In the meantime, a white woman with pale skin, no lips and a bony ass ain’t winning no beauty contests.

    They win them all the time and black women simply don’t compare (unless they have white blood) which is why they generally hate white women so much. You should prefer your own black women but the reality is that most black males are infatuated with white females…..even ugly ones.

    This must be your ideal backside in a woman:

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @Truth
    , @Markster
  144. @KenH

    “how does this author know all this?”

    Through linguistics, forensic anthropology, cultural anthropology, forensic archaeology — you know, the typical evil white man’s voodoo science of Tricknology.

  145. Wally says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    said:
    ” Long the separate very short on the equal.”

    Indeed, it is not equal.

    Mostly Black & brown schools receive vastly higher amounts in funding per student than mostly white schools.

    Fiscal Impact of Whites, Blacks and Hispanics
    http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/
    exc.: Federal Budget Contribution, 2014:
    Whites: +$2,795 per capita surplus
    Hispanics: -$7,700 per capita deficit
    Blacks: -$10,016 per capita deficit”

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  146. “It’s the pernicious legacy of redlining that leads feral blacks to savage random old ladies, unprovoked, in our urban centers? ”

    I won’t and could not in good conscience contend that some percentage of blacks engage in criminal conduct.

    It was probably a bad idea to deny generations of blacks to all they were entitled to as citizens. Fortunately, blacks brought with them a sound a work ethic, a code of morality that in high context civilizations from which they derived extended across cultures. It is unfortunate the country chose to undermine all that to import cheap labor – devastating consequences. Why anyone would want to introduce that into the reparations discussion is bizarre. How does the compensate several million black men who went overseas during WWI and then were handed off to the French and expected to fight without knowing the language —

    And I am supposed to applaud Gen. “BlackJack” Pershing for sacrificing US citizens to his thin skin – that is not happening.

  147. Okechukwu says:
    @KenH

    They win them all the time and black women simply don’t compare (unless they have white blood) which is why they generally hate white women so much.

    You need to get out more. There is life beyond your trailer park.

  148. Okechukwu says:
    @Wally

    LOL. “Statistics” from white nationalist websites are worthless.

    You’re not actually dumb enough to expect white nationalists to present credible information, are you?

  149. Why anyone would want to invite the policies of the federal governments instructions to allied forces during that war not to treat black troops as equals l’est the when they return home they be subject to hangings to keep them in line is beyond me. Because the case is quite clear that the federal government openly advanced a policy to violate the rights of black troops to keep them acustomed to said violations to prevent them being hung. There’s a lawyers field day – the federal government openly advocated denying black troops rights as citizens to avoid their being hung. That is a devastating admission that the federal government was aware of physical danger to the black population and instead ensuring equal protection preferred they be denied fair treatment to keep them underfoot.

    Laughing . . . good grief.

    Look of whites could look at the system and tell it it to go to hades. It’s a very clear that blacks had even more cause to resort to acts of whatever means necessary and the law and order hymns be shredded for the tools they were to oppression. Good grief upon examination I concerned that for blacks breaking the law was not a choice but a must based on US policies.

    That is the quagmire the author invites. But what’s done is done. And I am not even a lawyer I can imagine what a group of astute legal minds would do the federal and state policies direct and indirect regarding black lives.

  150. @KenH

    Once excuse is that Whitey “stole” knowledge from Black Africans. How do you “steal” knowledge? Someone could steal your car, but if you show someone how to change a tire, does that mean you suddenly don’t know how to change a tire? Goodness, what a stupid argument!

    • Replies: @Truth
  151. eyeslevel says:

    The problem with reparations is figuring out how much blacks owe everybody and then collecting.

    • LOL: WSG
  152. Perhaps there wouldn’t have been any black on white crime if whites had not imported black slaves to serve as animated farm machinery?

  153. @Okechukwu

    He doesn’t care whether they’re correct statistics. Like any other racist he only knows and sees what he wants to know and see, or it’ll destroy his worldview.

  154. corrections:

    I won’t and could not in good conscience contend that some percentage of blacks don’t engage in criminal conduct.

    And I am not even a lawyer I can imagine what a group of astute legal minds would do with federal and state policies direct and indirect regarding black lives to deny them rights as citizens.

    The more I consider it the more

    Oy veh it becomes.

  155. Svigor says:

    1. Saturate black population centers with state-run entertainment centers: convenience stores that sell lotto tickets, malt liquor, candy, soda and snacks, etc., combined with car dealerships, auto aftermarket retailers (rims, stereos, hydraulics), electronics stores (iphones, etc.), and Nike stores. Plus anything else good we can come up with. All profits from these stores go into public trusts, to be disbursed to the White gentile population (I’m open to suggestions on the specifics; educational funds, welfare for poor gentile whites, or just straight-up divvy it up into checks for gentile whites making under $xx,xxx per year or worth less than $y in total assets. Whatever).

    2. Pay reparations to blacks.

    3. Profit!

    Done right, it will be a massive wealth transfer from rich, disproportionately Jewish America to White America by way of black middlemen.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Truth
  156. Svigor says:
    @Technomad

    You’ve reminded me of the corollary of slavery reparations for blacks: reparations for the descendants of slave owners who had their lawful property illegally expropriated without due process or compensation. Adjusted for interest and inflation, we’re talking a very pretty penny. And by the way, more than a few of those so injured were black, if that sort of thing matters to you.

  157. Svigor says:
    @Okechukwu

    This is more of your negro logic, I suppose.

    Citation needed. What is the mechanism by which data presented by WNs becomes worthless? I’ve been in this thing for over 15 years. I’ve consumed enormous amounts of data from WN sources, and in my experience, the vast majority of what WNs say is either presented as opinion, or sourced from or backed up by non-WN sources: First-World governments, First-World Academia, well-supported academics, United Nations, European Union, big-time NGOs, Big Media, etc. The vast majority of us know the gov’t slanders us constantly, that the population is thoroughly indoctrinated against us, and that one of our best tools for breaking the sheep’s conditioning is being very careful with facts and sources.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  158. Svigor says:

    Lol, I just noticed that the guy the negro is slandering is Alternative Hypothesis.

    LOL, that guy is a total sperg and almost maniacially data-driven, IME. So much so that I don’t really regard him as a WN, because he puts data first and race second.

    Any interested party can just watch his videos and judge for himself.

    Way to attack your opponent where he’s strongest, negro.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  159. Svigor says:

    one of our best tools for breaking the sheep’s conditioning is being very careful with facts and sources.

    This is actually a standard tactic of asymmetric warfare in general; guerrilla forces, revolutionary movements, etc. tend to be more honest than the empires they fight against, precisely because they know they have to grab onto any advantage they can, and being more honest than a tyrant is usually fairly easy to do.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  160. Svigor says:
    @Svigor

    Shit, forgot dem pot dispensaries, yo!

  161. Svigor says:
    @Svigor

    And this makes perfect sense; if the regime weren’t a bunch of lying, persecuting, illegitimate cunts, there wouldn’t be much call for regime change.

  162. Anonymous[774] • Disclaimer says:

    No doubt that slavery was a tremendous mistake, one that whites should have recognized as being a problematic path to follow. We pay the price for that mistake to this day.

  163. KenH says:
    @Okechukwu

    You need to get out more. There is life beyond your trailer park.

    It’s always good to see the truth hurts. But if you think that black women are more attractive than white women, that white pepo who don’t hate themselves or worship congoid Americans all live in trailer parks then you spend too much time online in your grandmother’s basement and need to get out a little more yourself.

  164. @KenH

    Guys, guys, please. “trailer park”? “grandmother’s basement”?

    For this, Al Gore invented the inter tubes?

    You are both hereby sentenced to a 6-week Junior Remedial course at Don Rickles Academy, until you can come up with some fresher insults.

    • Replies: @anon
  165. newrouter says:
    @TKK

    “WV used to be a good choice, but the lack of jobs ”

    Lots of fracking going on in WV.

  166. Dumb article, dumb argument. Black crime isn’t state sanctioned as slavery was. I guess perhaps you could argue that CIA/Mossad is responsible since they import all the dope and hand out the guns.

    When the whites are driven out, as in Detroit or Zimbabwe, or killed off, as in Haiti, the blacks end up with, well, Detroit, Zimbabwe and Haiti. Without whites, blacks really can’t cope.

    Capitalist greed killed Detroit. Old coal mining towns in Appalachia are no better. Again dumb argument. Zimbabwe was fine for thousands of years before you showed up, as was all of Africa. There were people there right? So how did they survive all those years before the money worshiping capitalist devils showed up? Haiti, do some research, greedy money worshiping capitalists still meddling there, as they always have, see the Clintons. Dumb argument.

    Anyhow, why is it that only the media and corrupt politicians seem to be the only ones interested in having this battle again? Out of all the black and white people I know, none of either talk about this until the media and cocksucker politicians bring it up, usually around election time. Almost like they’re trying to distract us, or divide us. Kinda like the abortion thing. Literally no one cares anymore outside of the small group of cultists that still watch Fox news. Shit has been settled, let it rest for Petes sake.

    Take the money from the capitalist families that profited the most from slavery, the big banks, Morgans, Wells Fargo, Monsanto etc and I’m sure most folks would not care one way or the other if you played it like that.

    Take the money from Israel and give it to them if it matters that much. They certainly deserve it more than those ungrateful bastards.

    • Agree: Truth
    • Replies: @Baxter
  167. Baxter says:
    @redmudhooch

    ‘Shit has been settled, let it rest for Pete’s sake.’
    Based on the heated comments following this article, I would say nothing has been settled. Race relations in America are a fraud held together by the government.
    In my experience, tolerance is proportional to contact. Different groups put in same place will prefer to segregate.
    I ask this, where do you see whites, blacks and brown voluntarily getting together when they are not forced?
    Racial diversity is going to rip this country apart. Throw in the religious and sexual diversity, you’ve got one big mess.
    So much for America.

  168. @Robert Dolan

    Bless the strong, clear, and dare I say truthful voice calling out in the wilderness to the lost souls.

  169. Truth says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Yeah, companies just magically leave for no reason.

  170. Truth says:
    @KenH

    Probably the same way that ideological leftist historians and blacks supremacists suddenly discovered that black Africa was home to some of the most advanced civilizations long before whitey became numero uno.

    Oh, great. So you feel that you are as stupid as people you consider stupid.

  171. Truth says:
    @KenH

    I wouldn’t say “ideal” but i’d do her.

  172. Truth says:
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    Once excuse is that Whitey “stole” knowledge from Black Africans. How do you “steal” knowledge?

    This would probably be in the $100 slot on jeopardy, Bro.

    https://freebeacon.com/national-security/chinese-spies-engaged-massive-theft-u-s-technology/

  173. Truth says:
    @Svigor

    That is actually, just about the whole point, except for the silly shit about “trusts for white gentiles” and “poor white people getting money from rich Khazars; and what will happen in 10-12 years when this thing is signed into law.

  174. Jews did brainwash American population that slavery was a terrible fate.
    No it was not.
    So black slaves were planting cotton than harvesting cotton which took couple of weeks.
    The rest of the year they were only loitering around the house. For those two week work they did get free lodging free clothes and free food.
    Was that really so horrible?
    The truth is that considerable more blacks were fighting for South than for north.
    Were they so stupid that they did fight for slavery?
    This is very contradictory with Jewish propaganda.
    Something here does not add up!

    • Replies: @Truth
  175. @Okechukwu

    Ah, common there; give him credit. Not his fault some whites want to be wiggers. It’s a valid point.

  176. @Okechukwu

    Personally, I find it disgusting (huge lips) no matter WHAT color the person is. I find just about EVERYTHING about a Black person gross–nose, hair, lips, ass, jaw, attitude, and intelligence.

    With ONE (physical) exception: Ethiopians. I must say that, color and hair aside, they are some of the most stunningly beautiful people on the planet, at least the ones I’ve had contact with. Probably the rich bastards, but that’s another reply, cuz I don’t like rich people, either. And the color there isn’t really an issue–just makes them all the more striking because the ones I’ve seen are black as night.

    Now, would I ever hang out with one or DATE one? FUCK NO.

    But, it’s about wiggerfercation, and on this point, I’ll concede you are correct. Stupid little White girls wanting to do the old, as above, so below, basically wanting their facial lips to resemble their vulvas. Disgusting.

    So where’s the attraction of going out with a guy whose face looks like your twat (from a female perspective)? Nasty.

    • Replies: @Black Anaconda
  177. @Wally

    Uh, right (scratching my head).

    I have nary a clue what it is you think you see in my comment, which was that welfare programs were not racist.

    You appear to be off somewhere in the fog or something.

  178. Well this entire business of reparations is ridiculous. How far back should we go and who should be paying reparations to whom for what? How about Tunisia presenting Italy the bill for the Roman destruction of Carthage. Or how about China paying compensation for the murders and destruction done by the Mongols (I know Mongolia should be paying, but as it’s poor, China could foot the bill). And when compensating for resources stolen from Africa during colonialism, account should be taken of all the aid given since then. And maybe the Jews should pay back all the interest they ever earned on every loan they ever credited anyone since whenever. If you want to put things right in this world why just look at ways for whites to pay blacks?

    • Replies: @95Theses
  179. @Truth

    You’re an interesting case. Most people, when they fail to understand basic concepts and need to have them explained, are rather sheepish about the matter; you, on the other hand, go for the smugness factor. It’s an interesting personality trait.

    What Ris means is, back when the Europeans sent their tech spies deep into the Congolese jungle, in order to steal crucial African mud-hut building technology, after they got away and the Europeans learned how to build mud huts of their own, the Congolese still knew how to make mud huts; the knowledge had not been erased from their brains by the European spies. Similarly, Chinese theft of American computer tech does not cause Americans to forget how to make computers. The knowledge is not all written down in a big book that the Chinese swiped, and the Americans foolishly forgot to make a copy.

    But when the same European spies snuck far up the Congo River in order to steal vital African airplane and electrical technology, when they came back a century later, the Africans had apparently forgotten how to make airplanes and electrical devices. Indeed, there was no longer any archaeological evidence that airplane factories or refrigeration plants had ever been there at all. It had all simply vanished. Why?

    This successful and nefarious genuine “theft” of key African knowledge, so that the Africans no longer had it ( similar to the way an African man steals a little white boy’s bicycle, so that the object –the bicycle– literally changes hands) is the kind of “knowledge theft” Ris was wondering about.

    Next week we will discuss how Jeopardy! works.

  180. Truth says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Something here does not add up!

    Yes, your reading comprehension in the one American history class you took in the 3rd grade in Vladivostok.

  181. Okechukwu says:
    @Svigor

    Citation needed. What is the mechanism by which data presented by WNs becomes worthless? I’ve been in this thing for over 15 years.

    Oh, shut it. WN are universally known for their fake data, particularly fraudulent statistics. It isn’t by accident that you clowns aren’t taken seriously anywhere.

  182. Okechukwu says:
    @KenH

    But if you think that black women are more attractive than white women blah blah blah

    See this is how dumb you are. Has it occurred to your pea brain that an idea of beauty is based on conditioning? Have Taylor Swift walk into some African village where the people are unfamiliar with white people and to them, she would be grotesquely ugly.

    • Replies: @KenH
  183. Okechukwu says:
    @Truth

    I wouldn’t say “ideal” but i’d do her.

    Indeed. Me too. Especially if the alternative is this:

    • Agree: Truth
  184. Okechukwu says:
    @Svigor

    LOL, that guy is a total sperg and almost maniacially data-driven, IME.

    Yeah, fake data. It’s meant for idiots like you.

    Even on YouTube, posters who are actually mathematically and scientifically competent will absolutely eviscerate him in debates. What does he do? He deletes their comments and bans them. That certainly happened to me and a few others on his YouTube channel.

  185. Malla says:

    Reparations? What Reparations? The blacks got to live in a first world prosperous technologically advanced country, something they do not have the ability to create on their own.
    But if they want reparations, OK, give them a one time reparation along with a one way ticket to the Muddaland. It will a big gain for America in the long run. Short term pain but long term gain. Huge gain. And tell them to take a Jewish family and a Hispanic family with them. Even bigger gain for Murica. What say?

  186. Malla says:

    Since we talk about Slavery and the South, Douglas Reed’s book ‘Far and Wide’ will illuminate us on some facts on this matter.

    “I landed in the Deep South and, therewith, in the middle of ‘the colour problem’, and was glad Southern Africa had taught me some rudiments of the matter. The question has four distinct aspects. The first, what the black man truly wants, is ignored by all parties to the great debate. The second and third are the conflicting opinions, between white men who live among black men, about what is good for him within the limits of what is good for them. The division is in my experience not very wide, but is broadened by the parties of the fourth aspect, the political groups far from negro-populated areas who use it to set white man against white man as a means of achieving votes and power. This is the chief aspect. The past hundred years have shown that white folk in New England and Old England may be violently incited against each other and against white folk in warmer latitudes by this means, to the point of civil wars. The American Civil War was the first of these.

    The contemplation of sin in others is an ancient human enjoyment, particularly when the beholder is remote from temptation. It is a pleasure much enjoyed by unoccupied ladies at lace-curtained windows in suburban streets. Seated at her New England casement Mrs. Harriet Beecher Stowe grew wrathful about the goings-on of Simon Legree and the plight of Topsy, far, far away, to such effect that she similarly infuriated millions of other window-sitters and became (as President Lincoln said) ‘the little lady who started the big war’. Later, when she saw the ruined South and Uncle Tom, free but bewildered, she wrote in alarm: ‘Corrupt politicians are already beginning to speculate on the negroes as possible capital for their schemes and to fill their poor souls with all sorts of vagaries … It is unwise and impolitic to endeavour to force negro suffrage on the South at the point of the bayonet.’
    However, the thing was so enforced, with dire results; Mrs. Beecher Stowe, had she but known, was herself used by corrupt politicians for the furtherance of schemes; and Uncle Tom could not be unwritten when she saw the light. At this mid-century the book is used for new incitement in a land where pale-skinned folk, if not white ones in the true sense, endure a harsher slavery than her characters knew; time, the jester, dances on. Uncle Tom’s Cabin, as a play, is a favourite medium of the present rulers in Moscow for teaching their herded masses to hate the Western white man.
    Moreover, Mrs. Stowe founded a school of writers, now innumerable. Her success led one Anna E. Dickinson to delight New York, in 1868, with a novel, What Answer? depicting the marriage of a rich young white man with a negress and since that day the theme has never been let drop. Its true importance seems to be fractional.

    Because of this I found life and talk in the South much like those of South Africa; the same note of unease about the future ran through them. The clamour from outside paid little heed to people who were actually worse off than the negroes, namely, the original inhabitants, the Red Indians (so called by Columbus because he thought America was India, reached by a new route; they appear to be of Asiatic origin and to have reached America in remote ages by some icy trek from Siberia, across frozen seas, to Alaska). Mrs. Stowe never wrote the story of Sitting Bull’s wigwam, though her own house may have stood on its site. The surviving American Indians are too few for the ‘corrupt politicians’ elsewhere to bother with.
    The tale of mock-trials before a black altar, of brutal beatings and confessions extorted in the pretence that sentence of death was already passed, was told by an American Army board of inquiry, headed by a justice, but was not allowed to reach the conscious mind of the American masses. More was revealed in Mr. Montgomery Belgion’s Victors’ Justice, a book to which reviewers in America turned a strangely blind eye. The close resemblance between the torture of the South in the years after 1865 and that of Europe in those after 1945 proved, to me, the existence of a permanent revolutionary organization, trained to intervene at such junctures in human affairs and give them a satanic twist. The day after Lincoln’s death Ben Butler was appointed Secretary of State. That was a clear omen; he was the Northern general who ordered his troops at New Orleans in 1862 to treat as common prostitutes any white woman there who ‘by word, gesture or movement insulted or showed contempt’ for them. Outside the government, real power in the Republican Party passed to Thaddeus Stevens, a dying and malignant man.”

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @S
  187. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Further in the book

    The transference of power to a newly-arrived minority is, however, possible if the original stock can be kept fairly equally divided by the wedge of some exterior issue. For this purpose the negroes of the South continue to be used. The matter is explained by Mr. Robert. E. Sherwood, one of President Roosevelt’s ghost-writers, in Roosevelt and Hopkins: ‘Roosevelt said to me’ (during the fourth-term election campaign) ‘that, if there were some fifty million people who would actually vote on election day, you could figure roughly that some twenty million of them were determined to vote Democratic and another twenty million Republican (give or take a few million either way) regardless of the issues or candidates. This left ten, million or more uncommitted independents who were subject to persuasion during the course of the campaign, and it was to these that the strongest appeals must be made … A substantial number of negroes was included in the independent minority, as Roosevelt reckoned it. It was obvious that anyone with his exceptionally positive social views would he implacably opposed to racial discrimination.’
    The Southern negro thus plays in the 1950s, as in the 1860s, the part of stalking horse in the pursuit of political power. The cry of ‘racial discrimination’ is not genuinely raised on his behalf, the real meaning is that it would be ‘racial discrimination’ to oppose the new immigration from taking over the American future, as the intrepid reviewer remarked. The ambition, aspirants and method are not peculiar to America; they occur in England, South Africa and all countries known to me.

    snip…..

    Stevens pointed the way: ‘Hang the leaders, crush the South, arm the negroes, confiscate the land.’ He wanted chaos in the negro-populated area as an essential step towards revolution in the North; the same idea was being taught to American Communists (as an apostate once testified) at the Lenin Institute in Moscow in 1930, and is the ruling aim of American Communists in 1951. The negroes were ‘better qualified to establish and maintain a republican government than the whites’. The vote should be taken from the whites and given to the negroes. Attacking ‘racial discrimination’ he forced through Congress a bill ‘establishing for the security of the coloured races safeguards which went infinitely beyond what the government has ever provided for the white race’ (President Lincoln’s successor, Mr. Johnson, vetoed this bill and narrowly escaped arrest at General Butler’s demand).
    From the negroless North these white men raved for the extermination of the Southern whites. They tried to suspend trial by jury and, when the Supreme Court resisted, to pack this with compliant judges (President Roosevelt was the next to try that). When the victorious General Grant became president the military commander in Louisiana, General Sheridan, telegraphed asking him to declare the whites there ‘banditti’, saying ‘no further action need he taken except that which would devolve on me’. The real aim of all this was, as Stevens said, ‘to secure perpetual ascendancy to the Republican Party’. This continuing attempt to transfer power in the Republic to a more recently arrived section of the community is the reality of all politics there today, though it is now pursued by the other party.
    Those fantastic years in the South, I found when I went over the ground, are illuminating for the understanding of the present. The mass of liberated slaves, utterly bewildered, returned to the plantations; chronicles of the day record the gratified surprise of the whites at their general behaviour. Some of them, however, received arms and joined with poor whites of the South and ‘carpet-baggers’ from the North in a twelve-year orgy of ruin and corruption. The carpet-baggers were men of the kind whom the Western Powers in 1945 forced on the countries of Eastern Europe, thus abandoning them to the Communist Empire. They descended on the South like flies on cadaver, making themselves leaders of the negroes and exerting every means to keep the freed men from returning to their former masters or befriending themselves with the whites.
    These carpet-baggers offered the negroes the white man’s lands, womenfolk and money, and incited them to take those. The moon looked down on wild festivals of drunken intermingling in the idle cottonfields. Negro superstition was exploited and at black masses (a recognisable feature of any such regime) fearful fates were depicted to any who voted the wrong way. On the ruins of State governments macabre Conventions met and carpet-bagger orators, inciting black audiences, disfranchised masses of the whites. In mock parliaments the people’s representatives laughed and yelled, passed bills with their feet on the backs of chairs, sent out for cases of liquor and boxes of cigars, and ran up enormous debts; in Louisiana alone one of these sessions cost nearly $1,000,000 as against $100,000 before, some of the largest items being for champagne and other entertainment.

    One observer wrote, ‘It is a monkeyhouse, with guffaws, disgusting interpolations, amendments offered that are too obscene to print, followed by shouts of glee. Members stagger from the basement bar to their seats; the Speaker in righteous mood sternly forbids the introduction of liquor on the floor. A curious old planter stands in the galleries a moment looking down on the scene and with an exclamation, “My God!” he turns and runs, as from a pestilence, into the street.’ Such corruption at the river’s mouth could not come from a source less corrupt. Mr. Bowers wrote in 1929 that ‘never have American public men in responsible positions, directing the destiny of the nation, been so brutal, hypocritical and corrupt’. Mr. Truslow Adams, in 1931, spoke of ‘the most shameful decade in our entire national history’ and of ‘a moral collapse without precedent and, let us hope, without successor’. Since President Roosevelt reintroduced the ‘racial discrimination’ issue into the forefront of American political controversy these comments have become apt to the living present. “

    • Replies: @Malla
  188. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Further we read

    “The wonder is that the South ever lifted itself from that prostration, and by its own bootstraps. During the worst years the minority of misguided negroes was held in check by the Ku-Klux-Klan, which effectively played on superstitious fears. It was in truth a resistance movement, and only when I saw the South did I understand something that formerly puzzled me; why the Communists in 1950 still rail so much about the Ku-Klux-Klan. They fear future resistance movements, not the one of 1865-77. The negro also played a part in the recovery. He was unable, at little more than one remove from the Congo, to look after himself and turned to the white folks. His natural virtues also contributed. To me he seems, in Africa or America, an innately conservative man in the mass. He is not good revolutionary material, save possibly in the moment of ecstatic excitement to which he is prone, and he is often deeply religious. It was a Negro Senator who wrote in 1876: ‘A great portion of our people have learned that they were being used as mere tools and determined, by casting their ballots against these unprincipled adventurers, to overthrow them.’ That precisely describes the relationship between the negroes and the white politicians who use the racial-discrimination issue today. Mr. Truslow Adams says of the twelve years, ‘There is no parallel for the situation in the history of modern civilized nations, and it is almost incredible that it occurred within our own country.’ American politics of today, however, are moving parallel with those of 1860 and again, not for the good of the negro but to divide white people.
    I was perhaps better equipped than most, by long experience, to relate the story of those years to our today. I was also in a good town and a good house to study them. The town knew the full brunt of the tragedy and by wonder escaped General Sherman’s burning. The house once watched the young men go gaily off to fight, but saw few of them return; it knew also the anguished prayer meetings of 1865, when it was filled with weeping women, the South was in ruins, and no future offered. It had survived to know again the presence of a large and happy family in its fine rooms.
    Yet the -memory of many tears was in it, and all around. I paid a call on neighbours who, I was told, were rich people ‘before the war’ but now somewhat reduced. I expressed surprise, saying I thought America was richer, not poorer, through the war. ‘Ah, I mean the Civil War,’ said my companion, and I remembered that in South Africa too ‘the war’ means the old one, not either of the world wars.
    The South has never fully recovered, though it is advancing quickly now. It still has people who have never been able to adjust themselves to the changed order and who live amid furniture and hangings which seem to have 1865 imprinted on them, ancestral portraits then discontinued, and the remnant of family silver, possibly saved by a faithful negro. Like Irish squireens, impoverished but unbowed, they live as in a vacuum suspended in time. Deliberately but without posturing they reject compromise with a time they feel inferior to the one that the wind destroyed. If neighbours arrive from afar these remain ‘Northerners, but nice’.
    …snip

    Simultaneously an increasing number of negroes is being drawn from the South into these seven states by Communist-dominated unions. The powerful waterside union in California chiefly instigates this movement. It has long been a state within the Californian State (the flag of which, curiously, carries a Bear and a Star, both of suggestive implication). These unions are under the control of leaders of Eastern European origins. The polyglot population, which would get along well enough if the impact of the races were left to regulate itself in amity, is subjected to an unremitting propaganda of racial antagonism. Newspapers, literature, radio-programmes and plays constantly harp on the theme. The words ‘white man’ or ‘gentile’ are never used but the insinuation is that the white gentile population consists of bigots, gaiters, mongers and ‘Fascists’, and that any decent ones must prove themselves by voting the way the propagandists wish. For such token of moral virtue the material rewards of the Welfare State are offered; the Republic, like England, if it is to go down, will go down with free dentures gleaming and half-price toupets waving in the breeze.
    By these means the vote of the seven key states has been mobilized for Democratic or Communist candidates, as a recent rule. At the last presidential election the only one of these states lost by the Democratic nominee was New York, where the large Communist vote split the Leftist block, and let in a Republican. By then, however, the Republicans were so intimidated by the bigot-and-baiter campaign that (like the Conservatives in England), they were leaning over backward to appease Political Zionism and Communism, so that their supporters would have been little cheered had their man won.”

    Me Malla writing here: If there is any group in America which deserve reparations, it is Southern Whites for the brutality their ancestors were made to go through by the American Government. And the elites will resist sending blacks back to the Muddaland. They have been used to divide White Americans. That is what all this is about. Blacks are too useful for the Satanic elites.

    • Replies: @S
  189. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Europeans did send spies to Africa and elsewhere not to steal technology but to prospect for resources to steal. So as to better exploit those resources and run their colonies they decided they better educate some of the locals who then realised that what Europeans were extracting from their territories was worth something and was in fact theft. And after a while the Europeans realised that they could sell some of the products they manufactured from those resources to those locals turning them into consumers. And the more consumers the more profits and hence the population explosion in those post-colonial countries. So what reason have you got for complaining about blacks? Europeans were the ones who educated them to see the value of the resources they were sitting on, Europeans turned them into consumers who wanted all the items that those resources produced, Europeans taught them to use firearms so they could use them to fight their colonial and post-colonial wars, Europeans encouraged their population growth by introducing public health care and modern medicines so that a greater proportion of babies would grow up to be soldiers and consumers.

    Be fair when you come to apportioning blame and don’t unjustly accuse others of what they’re not guilty of. I can just see if one day Europeans decide to send back the immigrants how they’ll feel (not that I’d care much about their feelings for being suckers). They’ll be going “What bastards those Europeans! First they invite us here, their own mama Merkel calls us over, their Soros pays for us to come, their girls cheer us on with welcome posters on the platforms, and then they have us milling around the streets doing fuck all getting bored, treating us with condescending fake friendliness, and now they’ve had enough of treating us like their pet poodles they tell us to clear out”. Phew. Now you tell me what’s so sensible, reasonable, intelligent, fair or just about such Europeans.

    But that is the state we’re in and there’s a lot of correction that needs to be done to put things right, but blaming everyone around but oneself ain’t going to do it.

  190. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    People who think that knowledge can be “stolen” are so stupid as to not understand what knowledge really is. Hence their stupidity cannot be explained to them.

  191. anarchyst says:

    The American auto industry still had a predominant presence in the Detroit area in the 1970s and 1980s.
    Blacks WERE a problem in 1970s and beyond Detroit.
    I was able to keep up my property with no difficulty, painting the house (outside) on a regular basis, mowing the lawn and keeping the shrubbery trimmed-normal maintenance for any homeowner.
    Contrast my maintenance efforts and results with my black “neighbors” who did not keep up their property. You see, in the 1970s HUD had “special programs” to move blacks into single-family housing, without requiring these blacks to have any “skin in the game”.
    Of course, being white, I did not qualify for any of these programs.
    The liberal “urban studies” folks at Wayne State University always made excuses for blacks and their inability and lack of “upkeep” (normal everyday maintenance) on their homes. Their main excuse was that “the homes were old”…
    On almost every block, whites (mostly elderly Polish) who could not afford to move STILL kept up their homes–freshly cut grass, well-maintained exteriors, etc. despite their homes being just as “old” as those owned by blacks. No matter where you went in Detroit, one could always tell where whites lived. Neatly manicured lawns and well-kept-up houses were the norm.
    I finally left Detroit after a number of burglaries and little or no police response. The police KNEW who the criminals were but did nothing about it. You see, blacks were “oppressed” and were “untouchable”.
    Another situation was the “code enforcement” harassment that us whites endured. We always used the city-supplied trash containers (one for every two residences). Our black “neighbors” were too lazy to put their trash in the containers, strewing their trash throughout the alleys. Guess who got repeatedly ticketed for “improperly disposed of trash”? It wasn’t the blacks who improperly disposed of their trash–it was us whites. It was as if they (the black-run city government) wanted us to move…
    No, the old liberal excuses that poverty was instrumental in the destruction of Detroit is totally false.
    All one has to do was ask the party (liquor) store owners why they put up with the likes of blacks. The Detroit “ghetto” was (and is still) quite a “gold mine” for liquor, lottery tickets and junk food.
    I grew up in Detroit and personally witnessed the marginalization of whites along with the destruction by blacks.
    It’s CULTURE, not “poverty”.

    • Replies: @Truth
  192. eah says:

    Let’s instead just be forthright men and say ‘Fuck off’ to all the reparations bullshit.

  193. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I would suggest discussing how a job application works before anything else.

    • LOL: WSG
  194. @Commentator Mike

    “Europeans did send spies to Africa and elsewhere not to steal technology but to prospect for resources to steal. ”

    Right – resources the indigenous either didn’t know existed or had no idea how to make use of. And they weren’t spies (don’t spies blend in with their environment?), they were explorers. Further, (sub Saharan) Africans in precolonial times had no concept of nations, laws, borders, ownership, or any other prerequisites necessary for the beginnings of a civilized society. Instead they had tribes, customs, territory, and possession; the latter two in a perpetual state of fluctuation. So your contention that resources were stolen, when in fact they were not owned by anyone, is erroneous.

    Now, that isn’t to say Europeans were always honest, moral or ethical with regards to their pursuit of resources, but they did bring with and leave behind countless advances in agriculture, medicine and technology. That SSA’s have yet to take any meaningful use of those advances isn’t anyone else’s fault, but yet more incontrovertible proof that SSA’s have no business living in the West except in only the smallest numbers possible.

    Repatriation is the only viable option.

  195. @Pissedoffalese

    Okechukuluku or whatever his idiotic zoological ape name happens to be IS an attractive black man with his monster lips. Any poll of the black prison population would clearly show inmates would love to have him as a cell wife. The poor fellow’s claim to fame is not brains but lips. His new moniker, I mean nickname is LIPTICUS

    • Replies: @Truth
  196. Markster says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    European spies did sneak up the disease ridden Congo ( and it still is disease ridden ) to steal African technology. You can see evidence of this theft in any major western city. Look at downtown Manhattan for example ! In addition, the beautiful European buildings of the medieval and baroque ages were all copied from examples that long existed on the Congo and other African rivers. Proof needed? Just visit sub-Sahara Africa and see examples of African technology eg skyscrapers, washing machines, cell phones and so on. Hell, did you know they invented the computer thus helping the white man stop counting on his fingers, and the internet making smoke signals and communication by tom tom drums obsolete. Professor Louis Gates of Harvard, in travelling through Africa pointed to a pile of stones in the middle of nowhere and stated “A great African City once stood here”. All of my friends looking at the show laughed in disdain but not me, after all he IS Harvard educated so I for one trust he knows what he is talking about. So please, we must be respectful of African technology. In the coming years when we run out of propane gas, atomic or electric energy we may have to revert back to their tech breakthrough………..cooking outdoors using cow dung.

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  197. Markster says:
    @KenH

    Ken…………..that is Okechukwu’s backside ! If you are going to share photos please give credit where credit is due. He plans to ultimately match his lips to his buns using the white man’s technology.

    • LOL: KenH
  198. eah says:

    But if you want to talk reparations, you should first look at affirmative action in government employment — these jobs often pay well (with above average salaries), and offer very good health and retirement benefits — there is no doubt that around the country, Blacks are overrepresented in government employment — in fact, given their poor educational attainment, one can actually ask if there would be a black middle class in America without affirmative action in government employment.

  199. anon[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Shakespeare: nobody does insults better. Would thou wert clean enough to spit upon! 🙂

  200. @MikeatMikedotMike

    I don’t completely disagree with you but let’s face it it was the Europeans who then imparted their education, religion, and ethics onto the Africans, so surely thereafter Africans had every right to see the matter in the terms that the European taught them.

    Some of what you say is also debatable. Even under tribal societies indigenous people would have had some concepts of ethics, ownership, etc. After all they fought tribal wars over hunting grounds and water and other resources.

    Also just because someone isn’t exploiting their resources doesn’t make it suddenly the property of those who know how to or want to exploit them. There are even some in the US who have cast a greedy eye on Siberian resources which have not yet been exploited. There is something to be said about the value of conserving resources for future generations, posterity, or because one’s specific animist pagan religion doesn’t allow for unbridled exploitation of resources. Maybe that was another hidden reason for the spread of Christianity among such peoples so as to better mobilise them to work the mines, plantations, and to log the forests. Many indigenous peoples have a reverence and a religious respect for nature and natural resources, including plants and minerals.

    In my view it may not all have been that bad with primitive societies and I do feel that there is considerable misrepresentation about them, since Europeans wanted to justify their colonial exploitation and missionary activities. The best would have been not to interfere with them at all, but even when it was decided to interact, it should have been at a different pace and with different objectives, and a different education that would have led to different consequences. I hold that the problem was rapid, unbridled, uneven and inappropriate development; trying to reproduce what happened in European nations, the transition from tribal to modern industrial society, which took hundreds of years, if not millennia, into a period of several decades. And again the reason was to maximise the profits of the corporations that are as uncaring of those indigenous tribal peoples as they are of European citizenry. But it’s too late to correct what happened in the past so what next?

    In fact Europeans themselves could do well to rediscover some of their own tribal roots so as not to be taken in so easily by the globalist ideology. If Europeans were a little more tribal, like those Africans and others, they would have perhaps resisted better the invasion of their own lands, and certainly better than Africans and others were able to resist European colonialism, given the higher organisational skills, professionalism, technology, and weaponry of the Europeans. Unfortunately Europeans have spent the last century fighting among themselves, much as they’ve done throughout history, even though the global situation has changed and their wars, as well as their social development, have become a serious threat to their own demographic survival. And it still cannot be excluded that there may yet be more intra-white conflicts and wars in the future which will exacerbate these demographic threats while the Third World population multiplies.

    I also hold that repatriation could be possible under certain conditions, and it would certainly be no more difficult for descendants of immigrants to adapt to their parent’s countries of origin than it was for their parents or grandparents to adapt to the West, and many in fact have not adapted well at all, but there first has to be a will among those who run our countries, and that is certainly lacking. But if things continue as they are then the Europeans will become those threatened indigenous people on their own territories, and if they ever wake up then civil war is likely to follow with the possibility that they may lose some of their own lands to immigrant enclaves, or if left too late, they may end up with their own ethnostates in some minority enclaves. But first of all, before one can even talk of any repatriations, the current flood of the immigrants should cease, but it’s only getting worse, adding to the numbers already in the West. And as long as the West engages in wars in countries from which the immigrants originate it makes it unsafe, and hence virtually impossible, to repatriate them.

    And I don’t hold current Europeans guilty of what their forefathers may have done, that would be ridiculous, but then I can blame them for what they do, or don’t do but should do, now. Neither do I advocate paganism or animism for Europeans but who chooses it it’s their own wish.

    • Replies: @Pissedoffalese
  201. @Commentator Mike

    I’m sure a lot of what you say is true, but I was not arguing about history, I was talking about the difficult, arcane science of understanding a joke.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  202. Truth says:
    @anarchyst

    I finally left Detroit after a number of burglaries and little or no police response. The police KNEW who the criminals were but did nothing about it. You see, blacks were “oppressed” and were “untouchable”.

    Oh yes, I’m sure if you went to state penitentiaries in Michigan, you find no brothers from Detroit.

  203. Truth says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    Repatriation is the only viable option.

    I disagree Rabbi, but I will work with you here.

    I’ll talk to The Donald about sending you back.

  204. Truth says:
    @Black Anaconda

    Okechukuluku or whatever his idiotic zoological ape name happens to be IS an attractive black man with his monster lips. Any poll of the black prison population would clearly show inmates would love to have him as a cell wife. The poor fellow’s claim to fame is not brains but lips. His new moniker, I mean nickname is LIPTICUS

    Ken…………..that is Okechukwu’s backside ! If you are going to share photos please give credit where credit is due. He plans to ultimately match his lips to his buns using the white man’s technolog

    I think “Thomm” is right about 90% of WN’s being Homos.

  205. @Hail

    More Africans pay no Fed income tax to begin with, or GET more money through the Fed income tax system than they paid, net, due to the “refundable” earned (sic) income tax credit.

    So that major part of the tax analysis may hurt the Africans’ case rather than help it.

  206. Each and every white person who did not carry a “Von” or a “De”, or any other simular title of nobility in his name, every white european peasant who managed to reach the US shore was himself fleeing circumstances which were akin to slavery, perhaps not quite a harsh as the US model however indeed slavery in the very sense of the word, as not having any say whasoever over his miserable life conditions.

    Europe was , until the first world war, in fact a feudalistic conglomerate of kingdoms, in which the non-blue blooded were in fact, inspite of “Leibeigenschaft” : ownership of peasants having been eradicated early 1800s, were in fact slaves per’se, and therefore their descendants have every bit as much right to be demanding reparations from the still existing royal house, as do the african descendants.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz artist.

  207. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Fair enough. I’ve been meaning to make these points and this just seemed like a good opportunity.

  208. @Truth

    Truth,

    Don’t lie to me that you also prefer white women to start looking like blacks? For all I know the ass in that photo could be of that German trans-racial woman that converted to black. Shouldn’t you be accusing those Kardashians and their fans that enhance their lips and asses of “cultural appropriation”? Isn’t that the new thing out there. How about getting the courts to force whites to erase their tribal tattoos and remove their piercings too? Funny that. I bet many of those liberal lefties who complain about cultural appropriation are themselves tatted up and pierced all over with ear lobes stretching down to their shoulders. Do they think they’re being authentic or something?

    And if you went and sued the Kardashians and their followers for compensations for their cultural appropriations I’m sure you’d get a lot of support from UR readers.

    • Replies: @Truth
  209. KenH says:
    @Okechukwu

    See this is how dumb you are. Has it occurred to your pea brain that an idea of beauty is based on conditioning?

    Each reply is getting progressively more bitchy. You might want to check your rag, Oprah.

    Regarding beauty, no amount of conditioning would make a normal male of any race find more beauty in a coal black African bush bitch with kinky hair, saggy breasts, a lip plate and large butt over a white female like Taylor Swift. Besides, I don’t think Taylor or any white woman would care what a savage black African male wearing a loin cloth and living in a mud hut thinks anyway.

    If you think with proper conditioning ugly black African women can be made into the standard of beauty I’d say your brain is so small it could only be viewed under a powerful microscope and even then there’s no guarantee that scientists would spot it.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Truth
    , @Okechukwu
  210. Whites have their feckless, troublesome underclasses, too. I know; I grew up among some of them. That’s the sack we have to drag. There aren’t so many that we can’t manage them, though, and make progress in spite of them.

    And that is why we (Englishmen) invented Australia (and Tasmania). Not for profit (I mean, what? How?)
    You can see the tragic results on any anonymous korean basket-weaving forum.
    Perhaps the Septics should send their own untalented percentage to join them. They’ll get on like .. er .. a house on fire. Mate.

  211. Truth says:
    @KenH

    don’t think Taylor or any white woman would care what a savage black African male wearing a loin cloth and living in a mud hut thinks anyway.

    Not after a wonderful half-hour in the mud hut anyway, she’d be ready to go back to her husband…

  212. Truth says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Which ass do you prefer, that one, or the one in #185?

    The answer is easy for me.

  213. Truth says:
    @KenH

    Regarding beauty, no amount of conditioning would make a normal male of any race find more beauty in a coal black African bush bitch with kinky hair, saggy breasts, a lip plate and large butt over a white female like Taylor Swift.

    I’d make that choice… wouldn’t be hard either:

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  214. Derbshyre can try as hard as he can to create a race war in America where whites and blacks would turn against one another, in order to hide the jewish and Zionist crimes against both races, but he and other Zios will fail miserably. The days of the Zionist empire are numbered!

  215. I am all for reparations! Just so long as the check is marked, “Paid in full, now pull your own weight!”

  216. @Truth

    Good find. If it had appropriated some African lip and butt it would have been more convincing.

    • Agree: Truth
  217. @Okechukwu

    You need to get out more. There is life beyond your trailer park.

    That woman would have to call 911 to get out of a trailer. She’s Walter Hudson at certain latitudes.

  218. If I were judge in the case and Temar Bishop was found guilty at trial, I’d give him twenty years for the rape…

    Bleeding heart.

    New York still has the death penalty on the books, right? But the victim has to be dead. Literally, not spiritually.

  219. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    …rather than holding Blacks responsible for their behavior.

    What’s that adage about teaching a pig to sing?

  220. @Mr McKenna

    The depredations white people have suffered over the years are never even mentioned, much less reconciled. The cost of our many ruined cities alone is almost incalculable.

    Even Donald Trump couldn’t fix this one:

  221. Okechukwu says:
    @KenH

    Regarding beauty, no amount of conditioning would make a normal male of any race find more beauty in a coal black African bush bitch with kinky hair, saggy breasts, a lip plate and large butt over a white female like Taylor Swift.

    You mean like this coal black woman?

    Yeah, a toothless trailer park redneck like you would really have a chance with her, lol.

    I don’t think Taylor or any white woman would care what a savage black African male wearing a loin cloth and living in a mud hut thinks anyway.

    Then how do you explain scenes like this?

    Unfortunately, she doesn’t have any lips. Luckily, however, full lips are a dominant trait whereas liplessness is recessive. So their children will be fine in the lips department.

    If you think with proper conditioning ugly black African women can be made into the standard of beauty I’d say your brain is so small it could only be viewed under a powerful microscope and even then there’s no guarantee that scientists would spot it.

    I’ve dated every race and practically every ethnicity. It’s all about the individual. I’m attracted to some white women, but other white women I wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole.

    Btw, although black truly is beautiful, few of us are actually literally the color black. The average African skin tone is probably something like this:

    Most white women would kill to look like her. And, no, she’s not mixed, you ignoramus. Black people come in all shades and phenotypes. No heterosexual man alive who has a working penis (including KKK members) would choose some ugly, disgusting white woman over this goddess.

  222. @Commentator Mike

    And you know what? Once we’ve managed to reduce OUR civilization to a smoldering heap, who’s gonna survive? You think any YT on this planet knows how to build a mud hut, or even a FIRE? It’s gonna be the primatives who survive, and maybe they’ll come up, in 5,000 years, with a better solution than we did, cuz we’re TOAST.

    It will regress, and the Africans, who nobody’s gonna nuke, will get to start evolution all over again, as it pertains to human beings.

    And THAT is a sad fucking commentary.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  223. @Pissedoffalese

    Pissedoff….

    We can hope that MAD will hold out and it won’t come to that. But if it does, I’m not so sure that Africa will survive. There are more than enough nukes to go around that when they start pressing buttons some may just direct a whole bunch onto Africa, India, and South America to give a better chance for any survivors in the North to pull through into the future. Europeans in rural communities are well adapted for survival and even urban dwellers can learn quickly; it’s not that hard and it can be a challenge and fun to survive in wild nature. The sad thing is that the way we’re going there may be very little wild nature left even if they don’t drop the nukes.

  224. If ever there was an argument favoring the fears of Caucasians in the South after the Civil War, it’s this kind of thinking by this Negro rapist, who, like all rapists regardless of race, should be castrated and/or executed.

    Those who wring their hands over slavery of the past and want reparations for actions committed by others, you might want to start waking up to the slavery of today: sex slavery coming across our borders; slavery to government & to those who receive the redistribution of others wealth through taxation. That’s one the Democrap party likes to push, maybe to make up for their slave holding days. Speaking of slave masters, wasn’t it fellow Negros who were selling their unfortunate fellow Negros to Caucasians once upon a time. And, in the U.S., its been documented that more Negros held Negro slaves than Caucasians once upon a time. So, you sanctimonious Caucasians on a guilt trip and you Al Sharpton type race husselers out there better take notice that many of us Caucasians have no guilt about the past, except for that for which we might be personally responsible as individuals, nor do we intend to have our taxes used to pay for reparations to Negros, Japanese, Indians, or any other race, including Caucasians, who try to shake down the American taxpayers for past grievances, real or fabricated. REPATRIATION YES, REPARATIONS NO!

    • Agree: anarchyst
  225. I am 100% in favor of reparations, give them the money and a one way ticket back to Africa with a no return policy. It would be worth it to be rid of the welfare and the crime and last but not least the stink.

    • Replies: @Jean LeFeet
  226. S says:
    @Malla

    The close resemblance between the torture of the South in the years after 1865 and that of Europe in those after 1945 proved, to me, the existence of a permanent revolutionary organization, trained to intervene at such junctures in human affairs and give them a satanic twist.

    The more I read of Douglas Reed the more impressed I am of the guy.

    His is one of the few voices to comment upon the close parallels between the US Civil War of 1861 – 1865 and WWII (which in large part consisted of Germany’s war with the Soviet Union 1941 – 1945).

    At the conclusion of both wars the defeated foe was to have elements of its elites tried for ‘crimes against humanity’ regarding ‘the camps’. In the case of the defeated South these plans largely fell through. Not so for Germany.

    It was almost as though someone applied lessons learned from the US Civil War to WWII.

    • Replies: @Malla
  227. @Okechukwu

    “Most white women would kill to look like her. And, no, she’s not mixed, you ignoramus. Black people come in all shades and phenotypes. No heterosexual man alive who has a working penis (including KKK members) would choose some ugly, disgusting white woman over this goddess.”

    Wrong on all counts.

    1. Most white woman wouldn’t kill to look like her, if they had to put up with all the other crap that goes along with being black, e.g., a lower IQ, a dysfunctional misogynist gangsta “culture”, etc., etc. Chris Rock says it all here, beginning at 2:25: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJmvfbDdhFg

    2. She’s no goddess. She’s airbrushed and photoshopped to a pleasing chocolate color, and if not, then she’s probably a quadroon. And in 20 years, she will have a booty a yard wide.

    3. Ugly white woman vs. alleged black goddess is a false choice–nobody is ever actually presented with such a choice. The usual choice is: average looking white woman vs. average looking black woman. Average looking white woman wins hands down. Indeed, average looking white woman wins over airbrushed, photoshopped black model.

    4. Moreover, a black woman usually has a black mother. NOT mother in law material for any reasonable white man.

    • Replies: @Truth
  228. SafeNow says:

    Another aspect of the reparations/counter-reparations analysis, and perhaps the biggest one, is open borders. In order to virtue-signal that we are not racists, and to atone for slavery, we opened the borders, and thus destroyed the country. There are too many sacks to carry now, and there will be more. What’s a civilization worth, an earlier poster asked.

  229. S says:
    @Malla

    Me Malla writing here: If there is any group in America which deserve reparations, it is Southern Whites for the brutality their ancestors were made to go through by the American Government.

    Good point.

    Going back to Jamestown in 1619 when the first African chattel slaves were imported in by diktat into Virginia no regard was shown at all for the welfare of the everyday White men and women, the vast majority of whom did not own slaves.

    Interestingly, when the extremely self-centered slave owner/dealer types (the direct political and spiritual forebears of today’s self-described ‘liberal’ or ‘progressive’) attempted to bring their African ‘servants’ into London or Amsterdam, they were in time given strict orders not to do so.

    The same strict policy should of been in place in the colonies.

    When that Dutch slave ship appeared off the coast at Jamestown in 1619 wanting to unload its cargo of slaves it should of been told in no uncertain terms to bugger off. If after that the ship continued to linger it should of been blown out of the water using Jamestown’s cannon.

    And the elites will resist sending blacks back to the Muddaland. They have been used to divide White Americans. That is what all this is about.
    Blacks are too useful for the Satanic elites.

    Yes, in many ways I don’t think Blacks were ever in reality ‘freed’. They largely went from chattel slavery directly into wage slavery (ie so called ‘cheap labor’) in 1865, where even now some remain.

    For the progressives who use and manipulate them, Blacks now serve as breeding stock for the ‘new man’ they wish to repopulate the earth with, having the characteristics of being ‘more mixed, more docile,’ and ‘which can submit to a master’ as the London Times once described.

    Part of being a slave dealer (slave dealers being the forebears of today’s ‘progressive’/’liberal’) at times involved the breeding of slaves for purpose.

    Within the Anglosphere countries ‘the immigrants’, whether they be African or ‘ethnics’ historically imported in as wage slaves (ie so called ‘cheap labor’) from Eastern or Southern Europe, or from elsewhere, they have all performed the same function as those original Black chattel slaves at Jamestown.

    Anything, but anything, than pay their own [Anglo-Saxon] people the prevailing real time local costs of labor.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  230. S says:

    At the conclusion of the US Civil War, the North’s wage slavery (ie so called ‘cheap labor’) system had prevailed over the South’s chattel slave system. No doubt families such as the Massachusetts based Lawrence family of textile factory magnates (the same extended family constructed both Lawrence ‘Immigrant City’, Massachusetts, as well as its infamous sister city, Lawrence, Kansas) celebrated.

    And as in Gone With the Wind, due to the circumstances, many a former chattel slave utilizing plantation owner did indeed for a time have to pick their own cotton, or pay one of their own (largely Anglo-Saxon) people the prevailing real time local costs of labor.

    However, people are creatures of habit, and the South’s planters and hangers on with their chattel slaves were used to not having to pay the prevailing real time local costs of labor to their own people. They were used to importing in a very alien African people to do so, no matter the harm done to their own.

    The historical northeastern slave dealers in Boston, Mass, and other New England locales, were used to handsomely profiting from this trade at their own’s A-S people’s expense. An alien elite, such as those Jewish involved in the slave trade, would have even less compunction about this. Sadly, the non-slave holding A-S public, the vast majority, were used to simply ‘taking it’ in regards to the very negative effects of this incredibly destructive chattel slavery.

    Accordingly, as described in the New York Times article linked below, Southern planters in 1869 were quite enthusiastic about the plans announced by the Dutch ‘labor agent’ Cornelius Koopmanschap to import one hundred thousand Chinese wage slaves (ie ‘coolies’/’cheap labor) into the US South to work on the plantations at far below what the planters would have to pay their own people.

    It would be ‘just like old times’ were these plans to come to fruition.

    Koopmanschap handled North American distribution of the Chinese wage slaves, while his Hong Kong based business partner, the half, or possibly wholly Jewish, Maurice Bosman, handled their Asian procurement.

    Wasn’t it a Dutch ship which appeared off the coast of Jamestown, Virginia with a load of African slaves in 1619, some two hundred and fifty years prior?

    https://www.nytimes.com/1869/07/21/archives/koopmanschap-who-he-is-what-he-has-done-and-what-he-proposes-to-do.html

    https://matteroffact.tv/lawrence-mass-immigrant-city/

  231. Truth says:
    @Charles_Martel

    4. (Except the future king of England).

    • LOL: Biff
    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
  232. Malla says:
    @S

    Thanks. Very True.

  233. @Okechukwu

    Miss Angola has very nice hair, is it natural? No ,of course not she’s doing her best to look ‘white’.

  234. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Germ Theory – Thanks so much for standing up for me. You are exactly right because that’s what I meant.

    I’m female and I assume that you are male, so I’m blowing you a kiss through the internet!

  235. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Even in the middle east, it was the Westerners who discovered a use for the sticky, inflammable black goo known as petroleum. Not much use to someone living in the middle ages. Left to their own devices, Africans lived in the Stone Age.

    Wakanda wasn’t real.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  236. @Markster

    White slave traders didn’t want to advance into the interior because of fear of disease. They established factories (trading posts) and Africans brought the slaves to them.

    Slavery was profitable to African chieftains and they were unhappy about the outlawing of the slave trade.

  237. @Okechukwu

    One statistic that I read is that in White woman – Black man pairings, 92% of the children are illegitimate and 98% of the men don’t pay child support.

    A friend’s mentally-handicapped niece was knocked up three times by a black fellow. He doesn’t pay child support or even visit. The three girls are raised by their mom’s parents and driving them crazy. I’m concerned about the oldest (14) having a baby within the next few years, followed by other girls.

    This is typical of the White women who get involved with Black men – can’t get a White guy. The media is promoting miscegenation.

  238. Well the direct cost is hard to get at: we generally don’t monetize it.

    Here is what I would do:
    Add up all the transfers Black get.

    Costs of prisons.

    Costs of Affirmative Action both enforcement and inefficiencies.

    Security Costs.

    I think we would find that they are a dead loss to the rest of us. Worse their writ runs to total cities which are generally no doing well.

  239. Malla says:
    @S

    When that Dutch slave ship appeared off the coast at Jamestown in 1619 wanting to unload its cargo of slaves it should of been told in no uncertain terms to bugger off. If after that the ship continued to linger it should of been blown out of the water using Jamestown’s cannon.

    One can only wish, such action would have changed the fate of the USA for the better.

  240. Malla says:
    @S

    Yes, it looks like there is this conspiracy running for a few centuries at least. This destruction of societies with high cultures or societies rebelling against low culture to bring them back into the big immoral materialist crass world order by cunningly using propaganda which appeals to the morality of people (stopping slavery, defeating Fascism).

  241. S says:
    @Malla

    One can only wish, such action would have changed the fate of the USA for the better.

    Had it occurred it certainly would of been a most excellent example of the ‘righteous’ use of cannon.

    • Replies: @Malla
  242. @Malla

    I think you mean a (((Dutch))) slave ship. Just like all those (((Portuguese))) slave traders in Africa.

    • Replies: @Malla
  243. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    Actually the oil and gas industry was invented by the ancient Chinese complete with drilling and oil wells in the 4th century A.D., pipelines, and the use of oil and gas for lighting and heating, including industrial uses such as the heating of brine to manufacture salt.

    http://www.ancientpages.com/2018/06/28/how-and-when-did-ancient-people-start-using-oil/

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  244. anarchyst says:
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    There’s more…when the “bi-racial” children reach the age of 13 or 14, their black “african genes” will start to (re)assert themselves. At that point, it will be very difficult to enforce white societal norms on these children. Violence and ostracization of the white parent and other white relatives is usually the case.
    Observe “professional” football player Colin Kapaernick, raised by white parents in an upper middle-class household, who has every advantage known to humankind, and STILL decries and denigrates the efforts of his white parents and white society at-large. In many ways, they are like jews, always professing “eternal victimhood”, despite not being “victims”.
    No good can come from black-white relationships…

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
  245. Malla says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Of course ((they)) were involved. But check this out, this is good, why did ((they)) get blacks to North America in the first place? Besides the economic reasons that is.

  246. @Commentator Mike

    I stand corrected. I was thinking of the Arabs or Persians. Thanks.

  247. @anarchyst

    That’s what I am afraid of. I discussed this matter with my friend and we are both concerned that the ghetto will assert itself and my friend’s sister and her husband will be saddled with any number of great grandchildren to raise. The two older girls were diagnosed with ADHD and are on medication – could just be ghetto. Perfectly normal behavior and attitudes in the ‘hood, but not in the ‘burbs.

    Another friend and her then husband adopted a ten-year-old mulatto girl. What a disaster. Among other things, the girl tried to kill my girlfriend. The girl had one illegitimate son and underwent two abortions that we know of. She didn’t raise the kid she spawned, but dumped him on the baby daddy’s mom and sister, as well as the folks at the daycare center.

    It’s been pointed out that very often the angriest Blacks are the mulattos (e.g., Obama). People who are pure Black feel secure in their identity.

  248. @Truth

    I said “reasonable” white man. Those inbred, so-called “Royals” are about as reasonable as my cat, Fred.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  249. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles_Martel

    white man

    “Truth” is not white. How new are you?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  250. Anon7 says:

    John, thought you’d enjoy reading this use of your name:

    “…just stating that some cultures are better than others is likely to get you Derbyshired these days.”

  251. Bert says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Your observation follows naturally from tort law. Damages must be demonstrable. Perhaps a slave could have sued for damages in 1800 because he himself was brought from Africa, and so his time as a slave represented an economic cost to him compared to a life as a free man in Africa. But no modern descendant of slaves has such damages; rather his level of economic consumption and security must be compared to modern Africans. Hence no damages exist. Rather he is better off because his ancestors were brought to the U.S. as slaves. Not only would reparations be illogical, but even an apology would be.

  252. 95Theses says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I’m still waiting for my reparations from the Norman Conquest. ツ

  253. @Anonymous

    He could be new to UR. He may be the Charles Martel who reports on black racist on white crimes for the Daily Stormer. And before someone complains that I define such black on white crimes as racist and hate crimes … what they assault and murder whites out of love and tolerance? First I’ve heard of that.

    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
  254. @Okechukwu

    Typical fang-baring Nigerian associations with white rural poverty.

  255. @Commentator Mike

    No, I’m not affiliated with the Daily Stormer. And it’s sad that anybody affiliated with the Daily Stormer would use the handle, “Charles Martel.” He was a Muslimslayer, not a Jew-hater.

  256. Loren says:

    MY BURNING QUESTION

    How many violent crimes have blacks done?

    More specific–1900-1999, how many violent crimes by them on us? In USA? a billion?
    remember many crimes are unreported. esp prison male male rape [oops–its gay pride month].

  257. Loren says:

    its gay pride month

    PENNSYLVANIAS-FIRST-OPENLY-GAY-REPRESENTATIVE-ATTACKS-ELDERLY-WOMAN-PRAYING-IN-FRONT-OF-PLANNED-PARENTHOOD

    • Replies: @brandybranch
  258. @Lo

    “Blacks get money, spend it on buying things and services from white-owned businesses”

    ALL weave sources are owned by Koreans. That’s at least a quarter of reparations right there.

  259. Loren says:
    @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    you forgot tammy bruce, rush l and many others…they want that $$$$$.

  260. @Sbaker

    Muhammad Ali was more well known at the time for refusing to serve in the Vietnam War (which had absolutely nothing to do with the defense and security of the US) for saying “No Viet Cong ever called me a nigger.”

    I would guess that Mr. Derbyshire and most of those commenting on his article have long made that word part of their vocabulary.

  261. Anonymous[115] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Blankfort

    Most people simply don’t care about your grievances. Get in line and wait, goy.

  262. @Jeff Blankfort

    “No Viet Cong ever called me a nigger.”

    I think Ali war referring more to treatment than to naming. While initially that term may have been used by racist whites as a slur, it seems to me it has more recently been popularised by black rappers, and the way they use it it doesn’t appear to be an insult. So this N word is now so widespread, probably more than ever in the pre-Civil Rights USA, yet only backs are allowed to use it. Looks like a part of the Orwellian language wars, and the policy regarding its use is to cause more divisions and confusion. Like with so much else these days.

  263. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    I would believe that stat, can you look for it and post it?

    • Replies: @Truth
  264. Truth says:
    @BengaliCanadianDude

    Sure, but he’d have to look deep into his rectum to find it.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  265. @Truth

    TRUTH

    In all fairness, many of the low-class tattooed urban redneck zero-IQ sluts are unlovely and if I impregnated one of them i would hit the road too.

    If your daughter is a mentally-impaired nympho as a parent I would try to get an IUD for her.

    The other side of the coin is that these women are not very intelligent or responsible.

    • Replies: @Truth
  266. Truth says:
    @jeff stryker

    The main probkem with poor wimen with issues is their fathers. This transcends race. The father is a poor excuse or not there.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  267. @Truth

    TRUTH

    Much of this seems to be naivete. You won’t see many African-American women hanging around the Outlaw Clubhouse in Detroit because they think that white biker thugs are glamorous Alpha Males. A black woman looks at a white thug like Jax Teller and knows he’ll dead or in prison soon enough.

    John Holmes and Ron Jeremy are better-endowed than most African-American men, but black women would look at them and say “So what if he has a big dick? He’s a sleazy loser.”

    Nor do African-American women become groupies of disreputable white athletes with degenerate lifestyles. When did any African-American women want to be part of Lyle Alzado’s harem? How many African-American women wanted to hang with John McEnroe in his pad…these pro athletes were bad news all-around.

    Finally, some poor African-American women work in the sex industry. Their customers are often white. They screw around the clock for a living with white truckers. None of them become pregnant by these white men. Somehow their precautions work. You’d think that orphaned mixed children of white labor types and black prostitutes would be running around the truck stops and red-light areas like stray dogs. There is plenty of sex between African-American prostitutes and white clients, but not an epidemic of out-of-wedlock births.

    Last but not least, if a white lowlife with no moral compass were coming into an African-American household to exploit the mental impairment of somebody’s sister or daughter and repeatedly impregnating her, his moral compass would be brutally readjusted. There is no African-American man who would stand for this.

  268. @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    RIS

    Isn’t that a sad sign of how completely cucked white men have become?

    Some lowlife thug from the Hood comes into your house and uses your mentally-retarded daughter as a sex doll and blows his beans into her repeatedly impregnating her impaired ass and then you have to pay for the kids.

    And to impregnate her three times he’d have to be coming over a lot.

    “You seem to be doing alright raising that love child…here’s another one…”

    And now their grandchildren are about the right age to become fornicating sluts who will screw like rabbits on Spanish fly until there are generations of indigent love children stacking the house.

    From a geometric progressive viewpoint, idiots are reproducing so fast we could populate three planets with them.

  269. @Mr McKenna

    The moral failures of whites who wielded power and had the choices to treat blacks equally, after many opportunities to do so, made a conscious decision to do otherwise, resulting in this present state of racial disaster. That is it in a nutshell. Blacks cannot be held responsible for the state of mind of dominant society that refuses to see something that is in plain view because of its rigid belief system and having developed deep defense mechanisms, projected insecurities, and neuroses. Your mathematics appear to be one-sided also. The dominant society may claim that untold trillions of dollars (USD) have been spent on attempting to remedy these supposed maladies of black folk in this country. That supposition is laughable at best. Truth be told – the asset-stripping (thievery) from black folks after some 246 years of forced labor should amount to something – don’t you think?

  270. @Buck Wheat

    The black people you are most familiar with were here long before your ancestors back-packed here to these shores. If in 2019 A.D. there are still those who believe the fairy-tale called American history – well let us calmly place the blame on many aspects of public education, intellectual laziness and the 30 million plus citizens who cannot read or write above the 3rd grade level.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  271. @Jean LeFeet

    JEAN

    White Americans are often fourth or fifth generation Americans with family and cultural ties to Ireland or Italy or Poland.

    Donald Trump, for example, is the son of a German and has deep ties to Kallstatd. He speaks German.

    African-Americans have no cultural or linguistic ties to any particular country in West Africa and are 20% white on average. DNA tests are sort resolving this matter, but no African-American has family in Senegal who will put him up and whose language he speaks.

  272. Ragno says:

    I mean, do blacks really care about this, or is it just a way for guilty white liberals to display their mating plumage?

    They used to care insofar as they always enjoy snarling at Whitey and watching him flinch and cower.

    But now they smell free money; the spoor of a colossal payday for doing nothing but standing there and looking feral is filling their ample nostrils and making the cilia tremble in anticipation. The single most useless human taxonomy creation has ever belched forth is about to get paid for their uselessness, and are already practicing snarling further hostility in lieu of saying thank you….

    So yes indeed – blacks really care about this.

  273. Pat Boyle says:
    @Technomad

    There are two meanings to “reparations”. The original meaning and that used everywhere else is the penalty that victors impose on losers. For example Britain and France beat the Germans in WWI and imposed punitive reparation payments on the Germans at Versailles. The British did the same after the Opium Wars. They made the Chinese pay – not because the Chinese had done wrong but simply because British Artillery was vastly superior to Chinese.

    Lately the Social Justice Warriors think there is some authority that rights all wrongs such that if your people have been wronged by anyone at anytime you deserve to be compensated. The source of the compensation always seems to be the American tax payer.

    Whites have make grievances against blacks but it’s hard to understand what the blacks complaint is. Slavery was legal at the time. Slavery had been practice virtually everywhere by all peoples against all peoples. Slavery only came to be illegal because of the actions of Americans and the British – mostly led by Quakers and other religious groups.

    Reparations is a silly concept as most blacks must realize. Blacks are owed nothing. Indeed the case for reparations from blacks to whites makes much more sense from a moral viewpoint,

  274. artichoke says:

    I don’t like the idea of hate crime either.

    but as long as it’s on the books, it has to be enforced equally for black-on-white hate crimes as for white-on-black hate crimes.

  275. @ThreeCranes

    This welfare or entitlement business has been destructive to blacks and to the American taxpayers who have had to choke up the change to support it.

    No one in this weird nation should be permitted to draw entitlements for any period longer than 1 year. If at that point you haven’t fixed your problems then the answer should be toughskishitski, that person’s jig is up….no pun intended.

    Reforms to this State and Federal handout plan should be exercised all of the time but a huge number of politicians won’t touch it because doing so would signal the end of their lifetime political careers and most of those cowards are too stupid to write reforms, much less insist upon them.

    The problem of the Universe now is that our GD government is permitting all of the illegals entrance into the country and doing that is a double down on spending for housing, food, medical and educational expenses over and above its contract to continue spending on our own home grown deadbeats.

    I wish I could be King of the World for about a week. I’d fix this and fix it permanently.

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