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I’ve been meaning to say something about Brexit, the referendum in Britain six months ago to leave the European Union. It’s still causing a huge constitutional fuss over there.

I’ve hesitated to comment, because, in the first place the little I ever knew about the British Constitution has long since drained away down the foggy ruins of Time, and in the second place I don’t think Britain’s foggy affairs are of much importance to the U.S.A.

There seems to be some interest among listeners, though. And as a true-born Englishman, with the blood of Alfred the Great flowing in my veins along with some residual traces of custard, marmite, and treacle, I ought to make an effort to pronounce authoritatively on the rights and wrongs of Brexit. So here goes.

But here’s how out of date my constitutional knowledge is: I didn’t know that has a Supreme Court.

Where the hell did that come from? They never used to have one. Court of final appeal used to be the Law Lords sitting in Parliament — in, of course, the House of Lords.

I blew the dust off my old school copy of Taswell-Langmead’s English Constitutional History, 1946 edition, and looked up some appropriate index entries. As always with that magisterial work, though, I soon got lost in the fourteenth century among the King’s Continual Council, Tallagio non Concedendo, and the Maltolt of Wools.

Of the year 1406, for example, Taswell-Langmead (who was just one guy: it’s a double-barrelled name) writes:

The political scene in fact was sombre. Scots ravaged the north; pirates controlled the English Channel; Wales was in revolt aided by French and Spanish arms and an English Earl; religious dissidents attacked the Church and alleged that Richard II was in Scotland; the king was ill and listless.

Well, who wouldn’t be? You think we have problems!

Taswell-Langmead has no mention of a Supreme Court. Britain has somehow acquired one, though.

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Digging around, I see that this innovation was the brainchild of the sinister Tony Blair. In other words, it was the demon spawn of a wily mediocrity who despised his own nation and all its traditional ways, and did his utmost to swap out Britain’s d eplorably white Anglo-Saxon population f or the morally superior people of Bangladesh, Nigeria, and Pakistan.

As a result of Blair’s initiative, the Brits got a Supreme Court, independent of Parliament, in 2009. Britain is now engaged in a three-way American-style tussle between the authority of this court, the authority of Parliament, and the authority of the Executive—which is to say dithering nonentity Theresa May and her cabinet.

The constitutional point at issue: whether the Executive can take Britain out of the EU without further parliamentary debate — without the formal assent of bothhouses of Parliament, Commons and Lords, perhaps even — I’m not clear on this point — without actual legislation.

The courts — not this newfangled Supreme Court, the regular courts — ruled last month that parliamentary action was required. That’s now under appeal to the Supreme Court.

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Meanwhile the Prime Minister has asked the House of Commons to approve her notifying the EU next March of Britain’s intention to leave. The Commons did so after a six-hour debate, voting 461 to 89.[ Theresa May warns delay in launching Brexit would be catastrophic for trust in politics as rebels in Commons vote threaten trench warfare, By James Tapsfield, Mailonline, December 8, 2016]

That’s not the full parliamentary action the courts insisted on, though, so the whole business is still up in the air.

To sum up: the Brits had a referendum, in which a slim majority voted to leave the EU. The House of Commons has approved the government telling the EU about this, since presumably it wasn’t reported in the newspapers over there on the Continent.

Now we just have to hear from the Supreme Court about what else, if anything, Parliament must do; also, at some point I suppose, from the upper chamber, the House of Lords.

How does all this play into the large international theme of popular will versusglobalist elites? Somewhat messily — like our own November election result, with its constitutional win for Trump against a popular vote for Clinton.

There is not much doubt about the Eurowhore inclinations of Britain’s Supreme Court justices. On the other hand, the supremacy of Parliament, with the House of Commons taking most of the weight, is not a bad principle. As suspicious as I am of the justices and their preferences, and as righteously as I loathe Tony Blair and all his works, I hope the Supreme Court will reaffirm the supremacy of Parliament.

It’s a mess, though, and the political scene over there is sombre. Still, at least Scots aren’t ravaging the north.

And what about Europe? How are they getting on over there with populist resistance to the nation-wrecker elites?

Mixed news this week, I’m afraid.

  • Italy

The Italians have been having a wee constitutional crisis of their own. I find it hard to take this seriously, just because Italian politics has been a joke for as long as I can remember … which is long. The average duration of an Italian government since WW2 has been a little over one year.

There’s plainly some deep systemic problem there. Prime Minister Matteo Renzi proposed some constitutional reforms, simplifying and centralizing the system. Whether they would have solved the problem, I’m not qualified to say. You’d think people would want something done, though.

Apparently not, not what Renzi was proposing, anyway. Last weekend’s referendum rejected Renzi’s reforms. It was a big vote for the status quo. No, Italy’s referendum is not the same as Trump or Brexit

There’s a lot of spin on nationalist websites that this was another result in the Brexit-Trump category, indignant patriots voting against globalism. It really doesn’t look like that to me, though. My personal compass on these matters is the hyper-globalist, Open-Borders, anti-Brexit, anti-Trump magazine The Economist. That magazine urged Italians to vote No on Renzi’s reforms, as they did. [Why Italy should vote no in its referendum | The country needs far-reaching reforms, just not the ones on offer, November 26th 2016]

It’s all moot, anyway. Italy has been ferrying in illegals from sub-Saharan Africa at an ever-accelerating rate: thirteen and a half thousand just last month—that’s compared with only three thousand in November last year. [Italy Breaks Immigration Record in 2016, by Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D. , Breitbart.com, December 11, 2016]

There’s beaucoup more where they came from, and no sign the Italians can muster the will to turn off the spigot.

If Italians think their government this past seventy years has been dysfunctional, wait till the lads from Lagos and Ouagadougou take over.

Italy’s a goner.

  • Austria
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The result in Austria was more clear. This was a re-run of the Presidential election held in May. Nationalist candidate Norbert Hofer had a very narrow loss back then, and t he nation’s Supreme Court ordered a re-run. This time Hofer lost by a bigger margin, seven percent.

The New York Times was gleeful [Austria Rejects Far-Right Presidential Candidate Norbert Hofer, By Alison Smale, December 4, 2016]. They couldn’t wait to tell us that Hofer’s party, the Freedom Party, is “far-right” and was “founded in the 1950s by former Nazis.”

For goodness’ sake! Pretty much every adult in 1950s Austria was either a former Nazi or a former Communist. The Sound of Music is not a historical documentary.

  • The Netherlands

Meanwhile, Dutch nationalist Geert Wilders, leader of a major political party also named the Freedom Party, was convicted in a court of law for the crimes of discrimination and inciting hatred. [Geert Wilders GUILTY of hate crimes against Moroccans after anti-migrant rally in Holland, by Simon Osborne, Express.co.uk, December 9, 2016]

What Wilders had actually done was to promise a rally of his supporters that if he got power, there would be fewer Moroccans in Holland.

Oh, the humanity!

No sentence has been announced, and Wilders has said he’ll appeal.

  • France

Marine Le Pen—who is not actually a leatherneck, “Marine” is her name—Ms. Le Pen, leader of French nationalists, has called for an end to free education for the children of illegal immigrants. [Marine Le Pen: No free school for illegal migrants in France, BBC, December 8 , 2016]

I am quietly amazed that this is even news. Who thinks that foreign scofflaws should be awarded public goods at the expense of native taxpayers? Well, of course, all Goodthinkful persons do—everybody except those, you know, far-right ex-Nazis.

France has an election coming up next Spring, and Ms. Le Pen is a leading candidate for President. Current polling says she’ll likely make it to the final runoff in May, but then lose big to an establishment candidate.

There you see a problem with all these European nationalist movements. There seems to be a ceiling in their support, a ceiling well below fifty percent. Most voters prefer Establishment suits like the winner in Austria.

Even where proportional representation makes coalition governments necessary, nobody wants to be in coalition with the nationalist party, because … you know. Far-right…ex-Nazi…nativist…Hitlery Hitler.

Christian missionaries in the Far East used to talk—perhaps they still do—about the twenty percent ceiling. In places where Christians have been able freely to proselytize among East Asians—places like Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea—under favorable conditions you can convert around twenty percent of the locals, but after that you get stuck.

(That’s the way I remember hearing it, anyway; although the CIA World Factbook gives South Korea as 32 percent Christian. All right: a thirty percent rule.)

Politics and religion draw on some of the same mental modules. So perhaps there is a similar ceiling for nationalist politics among white Europeans. Perhaps the nationalist parties over there are doomed never to get above thirty percent support—and so never to get power.

If that’s the case, and given the number of Third Worlders pouring in to the continent to swing the balance even further against native nationalism, Europe is toast.

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John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjectsfor all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He’s had two books published by VDARE.com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and From the Dissident Right II: Essays 2013. His writings are archived atJohnDerbyshire.com.

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  1. dearieme says:

    Of course Europe is toast. Everywhere is toast. Nothing lasts for ever. That too shall pass away.

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  2. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    three-way American-style tussle between the authority of this court, the authority of Parliament, and the authority of the Executive—which is to say dithering nonentity Theresa May and her cabinet.

    Isn’t the Crown the executive?

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    • Replies: @dearieme
    "Isn’t the Crown the executive?": no, the Crown is ceremonial. If you want to identify an executive probably the Cabinet is best but it answers to Parliament, primarily the House of Commons. Still, the government claims to act for "the crown", that's true.
    , @Richard S
    The crown is sovereign. The courts are "royal", the government is HM. All the pre-19th century levers of powers in fact. The armed forces, the church, the prison system, customs and revenue etc etc are all headed, in principle, by the monarch.
    , @Che Guava
    Not since the Magna Carta.

    I notice that on Britain leaving the EU, since the vote was not convenient for them, there has been some talk about the Prime Minister and cabinet being the 'executive branch' among the members of the neoliberal new class.

    The Blair creature was perhaps the worst on the point of acting as the leader of an 'executive branch' in recent years.

    Then again, how far to track it back?

    I would place it at Churchill's first round as PM and his wartime cabinets, but others may make a case for an earlier origin.

    It is interesting to me that both England/Wales/N. Ireland and Scotland *do* have written constitutions, the Bill of Rights (of 1689, if I recall correctly, and the very similar document in Scotland) were major inspirations for the US constitution.

    Even words and phrases are similar.

    Lawyers like to pretend that those two documents don't exist. So they made the fiction of the 'unwritten constitution', even worse than the idea of the 'living constitution' in the US.

    AFAIK, the 'Supreme Court' of England/Wales/N. Ireland, Scotland always had a separate legal system, is just the Law Lords dressed up in a new way, after the Blair creature appointed them and a huge number of others to Lordships to thank them for all the money they'd thrown in to sustain his rule.

    Mr. Derb,

    Always appreciate your articles, I am not the *complete* expert on everything above, far from, hope you are to reading it, none are anti, but I think, from my reading on this, more relevant than almost all others on the thread.

    , @Alden
    The "crown" has no power and does nothing. The government employees and the prime minister are the executive
  3. polistra says:

    I don’t think it’s a ceiling. It’s just that countries are different. The migrant invasion is hurting nearly all Euro countries, but it’s balancing against different previous experiences.

    Some countries benefited from Reich #4 before the invasion, some didn’t. Countries that were hurt by #4 before the migrant invasion see pure negative now. Countries that were well served by #4 before the invasion (unsurprisingly, the same Teutonic countries that benefited from #3) still see #4 as positive.

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  4. Randal says:

    I didn’t know that has a Supreme Court.

    Where the hell did that come from? They never used to have one. Court of final appeal used to be the Law Lords sitting in Parliament — in, of course, the House of Lords.

    The execrable Blair, as you say.

    Aided by a fair degree of knee-jerk America-worship from the collaborationist elites and a fair bit of “isn’t the US Supreme Court the highest court in our land anyway?” ignorance from the wider population brought up on a diet of US TV and Hollywood bilge.

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  5. Randal says:

    As suspicious as I am of the justices and their preferences, and as righteously as I loathe Tony Blair and all his works, I hope the Supreme Court will reaffirm the supremacy of Parliament.

    It isn’t as simple as that, though. It’s actually about the legislative part encroaching on the executive’s role, in US terms, but the motivation is purely and simply to try to fight back against the Brexit vote by putting more control in the hands of a body that is overwhelmingly pro-EU.

    As is usually the case in such complex matters, the “correct legal position” is not open to reasoned objective determination – it’s a matter of what weightings you give to numerous opposing precedents and principles, and therefore open to a decision either way. Accordingly, if the Supreme Court justices (as you say, there is not much doubt about the Eurowhore inclinations of Britain’s Supreme Court justices) feel that they can do so without an undue popular backlash against them they will find that effective control of the Brexit process should be handed to the overwhelmingly Europhile Commons and Lords, who will then subject it to all manner of petty and not so petty delays, conditions, votes, etc.

    On the one hand, it’s an attempt to make a pretty absurd legalist argument stick – that because after the government made a treaty the Commons enacted “rights” based upon that treaty, a concocted principle now applies that says the government cannot now withdraw from the treaty even following a popular vote asking them to do so, because it would mean abrogating those rights (never mind that Parliament could as easily reimplement those rights ex the EU if it wanted to). It’s the sort of absurd argument that would never go anywhere except in the situation in which it suits the elites for it to be treated as though it were serious.

    On the other hand, it’s a reflection of the problem we have that the Brexit referendum was held too soon, before the popular movement in favour of leaving the EU could overcome the various establishment gerrymandering systems to attain substantial representation in the Commons. As a result, the Commons is grossly unrepresentative of the popular will on Brexit – which is just how the elites like it of course.

    We shall see how daring the Supreme Court will be in its attempt to hinder the expressed will of the people. My guess is they will do so, insulated as they are by the political and media establishments and general respect for law and order from direct popular anger. But I’m a pessimist by nature.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    the popular will

    And, of course, we all know that the populace always makes the best decisions.
  6. Anonym says:

    There you see a problem with all these European nationalist movements. There seems to be a ceiling in their support, a ceiling well below fifty percent. Most voters prefer Establishment suits like the winner in Austria.

    This “ceiling”… now where have I heard that before…

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    • Replies: @dfordoom

    This “ceiling”… now where have I heard that before…
     
    Trump broke through the ceiling by focusing on economic issues and trade as well as immigration. He broke through by moving significantly to the Left (in his rhetoric anyway).

    The European nationalist parties won't break through the 20-25% ceiling unless they can find a way to convince voters that they're a better choice on all issues, not just on immigration.

    Immigration control is not an election-winning issue because most people are completely incapable of thinking about the long term. The fact that immigration might cause immense problems in a few decades' time is not only irrelevant to them, it is simply beyond their powers of comprehension. They have trouble thinking further ahead than their next pay packet.

    Nationalist parties need to focus on here-and-now economic issues while still maintaining their anti-immigration stand.

    The European nationalist parties also need to find a way to distance themselves from the political right. Rightwing populist nationalism is political poison. Leftwing populist nationalism might be much easier to sell.
  7. 5371 says:

    The Economist saw that the reforms were going to be voted down, and grabbed some cheap impartiality points by opposing them.

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  8. iffen says:
    @Randal

    As suspicious as I am of the justices and their preferences, and as righteously as I loathe Tony Blair and all his works, I hope the Supreme Court will reaffirm the supremacy of Parliament.
     
    It isn't as simple as that, though. It's actually about the legislative part encroaching on the executive's role, in US terms, but the motivation is purely and simply to try to fight back against the Brexit vote by putting more control in the hands of a body that is overwhelmingly pro-EU.

    As is usually the case in such complex matters, the "correct legal position" is not open to reasoned objective determination - it's a matter of what weightings you give to numerous opposing precedents and principles, and therefore open to a decision either way. Accordingly, if the Supreme Court justices (as you say, there is not much doubt about the Eurowhore inclinations of Britain’s Supreme Court justices) feel that they can do so without an undue popular backlash against them they will find that effective control of the Brexit process should be handed to the overwhelmingly Europhile Commons and Lords, who will then subject it to all manner of petty and not so petty delays, conditions, votes, etc.

    On the one hand, it's an attempt to make a pretty absurd legalist argument stick - that because after the government made a treaty the Commons enacted "rights" based upon that treaty, a concocted principle now applies that says the government cannot now withdraw from the treaty even following a popular vote asking them to do so, because it would mean abrogating those rights (never mind that Parliament could as easily reimplement those rights ex the EU if it wanted to). It's the sort of absurd argument that would never go anywhere except in the situation in which it suits the elites for it to be treated as though it were serious.

    On the other hand, it's a reflection of the problem we have that the Brexit referendum was held too soon, before the popular movement in favour of leaving the EU could overcome the various establishment gerrymandering systems to attain substantial representation in the Commons. As a result, the Commons is grossly unrepresentative of the popular will on Brexit - which is just how the elites like it of course.

    We shall see how daring the Supreme Court will be in its attempt to hinder the expressed will of the people. My guess is they will do so, insulated as they are by the political and media establishments and general respect for law and order from direct popular anger. But I'm a pessimist by nature.

    the popular will

    And, of course, we all know that the populace always makes the best decisions.

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    Always is probably pretty doubtful, but you could certainly make the case that it does a fairly good job in some nations. Certainly I've not seen any evidence to suggest that any other system is particularly foolproof, though.

    Anyway, afaic it made the right decision on Brexit.
    , @RadicalCenter
    In this case, the sensible, courageous, and patriotic part of "the populace" is trying to ensure that hostile or unassimilable people from alien cultures do not push them aside as "the populace" and "the electorate." And they're right to do so, before it's too late.

    God Bless the Brexiteers. Do whatever it takes to force the Brit government to heed the actual BRITISH people's wishes with regard to the EU and everything else.
  9. dearieme says:
    @Anon

    three-way American-style tussle between the authority of this court, the authority of Parliament, and the authority of the Executive—which is to say dithering nonentity Theresa May and her cabinet.
     
    Isn't the Crown the executive?

    “Isn’t the Crown the executive?”: no, the Crown is ceremonial. If you want to identify an executive probably the Cabinet is best but it answers to Parliament, primarily the House of Commons. Still, the government claims to act for “the crown”, that’s true.

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  10. Voting nationalist isn’t a radical life changing experience like converting to Christianity, so I don’t think the East-Asian missionary analogy provides insight.

    In Switzerland, various nationalist referendums won majority support. (Against construction of minarets, Against mass immigration). Nationalism is absolutely dominant in the Visegrad nations. Putin’s semi-nationalism dominates the polls in Russia. With the upset victories of Brat and Trump, nationalism is beginning to awaken in America.

    If there is a nationalist ceiling in most of western Europe, we need to think about why the ceiling exists and figure out how to break it.

    Big donors, Wall Street, Hollywood, the main stream media, academia’s humanities and social science departments, PC enforcers such as the SPLC and the ADL, “antifascist” bullies, and even the US State Department all work tirelessly to suppress nationalism in European-Christian derived nations.

    The President of the United States has an immense ability to weaken or co-opt all of these hostile power nodes.

    If America and the other nations which constitute European-Christian civilization descend into oblivion, it will be for one reason and one reason only: because President-Elect Donald Trump and his closest advisors decided to pivot away from his nationalist campaign rhetoric.

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    • Replies: @anon

    If there is a nationalist ceiling in most of western Europe, we need to think about why the ceiling exists and figure out how to break it.
     
    If the media didn't cover up the truth about violent crime - especially sexual violence against children - the nationalist ceiling would be 90% .

    It's a battle between the truth and the forces suppressing the truth.
    , @Kyle McKenna

    If America and the other nations which constitute European-Christian civilization descend into oblivion, it will be for one reason and one reason only: because President-Elect Donald Trump and his closest advisors decided to pivot away from his nationalist campaign rhetoric.
     
    Agreed. Much hinges on our scary situation at present. At least we have some hope, despite the colossal forces of reaction and considerable question about the white knight himself.
  11. Europe is toast

    Likely. But aren’t most white countries.

    United States:
    Whites are minority of births in the United States. Immigration continues. Toast.

    England:
    Muslims are 10% of births in England. One in three are not even English – though some of those are non-English white. Immigration continues, especially Muslim immigration. In a few decades, England’s under-40 population will be at least 15% Muslim and probably another 10%-15% non-white. Once Muslims hit 15% of your population, look out. Toast.

    France:
    Using testing of newborns for Sickle Cell disease as a proxy for at least one non-white parent, nearly one in three births in France is to a child with at least one non-white parent. Those kids will be either North African Muslim or African. Muslims likely will be nearly 20% of France’s under-40 population in a decade or two. Toast.

    Germany
    Germany just seem intent on destroying itself. Don’t even need statistics. It’s mental.

    Sweden:
    Toast for a variety of reasons

    Australia:
    Granted Australia was smart enough not to import an underclass, but they are importing an overclass of Asians. Perhaps not toast, but certainly not a white Anglo-Saxon country in a few generations.

    Canada:
    See Australia, though Canada seems to go for a few more Muslims and Jamaicans.

    The funny thing is that if just one group of whites decides to stand up for themselves, I’d wouldn’t be worried at all. But for a number of bizarre reasons, we seem intent on committing suicide. However, trends change. Perhaps whites have simply been on top so long that we’ve forgotten how to scrap and fight for our place in the sun. We may find that fight within us again someday. I hope so.

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  12. anon says: • Disclaimer

    The ceiling is the percentage who know the truth.

    This is a function of immigrant numbers vs the media’s power to hide the truth.

    (In particular their ability to hide the truth from the upper middle class who dominate politics – which unfortunately is very easy as the upper middle class don’t come into personal contact with the truth.)

    As the immigrant percentage goes up the absolute voting ceiling goes down but the percentage of natives who know the truth goes up.

    Eventually a tipping point will be reached where the media can’t hide the truth any more and the globalists will remove the mask and use naked force and coercion.

    (The actual percentage needed to trigger this reaction varies by how densely populated a country is.)

    We are pretty close to that point now in some countries – notably France and Sweden.

    As we near that point the EU elites will start to impose Orwellian laws and build an army with north African immigrants – couched in terms of multicult and diversity – which they will use as their Janissaries against the native population.

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    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    "Eventually a tipping point will be reached where the media can’t hide the truth any more and the globalists will remove the mask and use naked force and coercion."

    The globalists won't need to use force. By the time that the vast majority of whites (including a large part - maybe even the majority - of the upper middle class) figure things out, whites are a minority in their own country. Even if whites vote 80% or even 90% as a group, which won't happen, you are overwhelmed by the blacks and the browns.

    It's over. I mean, democracy is sacred, right.

    European and American whites are looking at going down the path of whites in South Africa if they stick with democracy. Nope, whites only hope is to start forming ethnic-based groups, charities, schools, etc. Nothing violent, nothing illegal. Just start creating a society within the greater multi-culti society. Use Jews as a template.

    Then, bit by bit, start separating your group, even pushing for a homeland - again, just like the Jews. At some point down the road, maybe in a generation or two, there will come an opportunity to break away in a more political, maybe even territorial, sense.

    But for now, whites need to simply show some pride and start building bonds.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Well put.

    African-"americans" are already in effect a disorganized army terrorizing decent people, especially whites, day and night whenever they can.

    They claim blocks, then entire neighborhoods, then entire towns, where they are allowed to, by the sheer dint of numbers and relentless brutality and harassment.

    With BLM and other Soros-funded thug groups on the rise, Africans are getting more confident, more aggressive and belligerent than ever before. Look for them to be used as shock troops to threaten, beat, and intimidate white and Asian people away from polling places on a regular basis.

    Decent people of all other backgrounds ought to fight back, and probably will. This, however, will lead to terrible widespread violence which none of us should wish for. Then again, the violence is already here; it's just a question of whether more-civilized people are going to win or the savages.

  13. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @John Gruskos
    Voting nationalist isn't a radical life changing experience like converting to Christianity, so I don't think the East-Asian missionary analogy provides insight.

    In Switzerland, various nationalist referendums won majority support. (Against construction of minarets, Against mass immigration). Nationalism is absolutely dominant in the Visegrad nations. Putin's semi-nationalism dominates the polls in Russia. With the upset victories of Brat and Trump, nationalism is beginning to awaken in America.

    If there is a nationalist ceiling in most of western Europe, we need to think about why the ceiling exists and figure out how to break it.

    Big donors, Wall Street, Hollywood, the main stream media, academia's humanities and social science departments, PC enforcers such as the SPLC and the ADL, "antifascist" bullies, and even the US State Department all work tirelessly to suppress nationalism in European-Christian derived nations.

    The President of the United States has an immense ability to weaken or co-opt all of these hostile power nodes.

    If America and the other nations which constitute European-Christian civilization descend into oblivion, it will be for one reason and one reason only: because President-Elect Donald Trump and his closest advisors decided to pivot away from his nationalist campaign rhetoric.

    If there is a nationalist ceiling in most of western Europe, we need to think about why the ceiling exists and figure out how to break it.

    If the media didn’t cover up the truth about violent crime – especially sexual violence against children – the nationalist ceiling would be 90% .

    It’s a battle between the truth and the forces suppressing the truth.

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  14. Randal says:
    @iffen
    the popular will

    And, of course, we all know that the populace always makes the best decisions.

    Always is probably pretty doubtful, but you could certainly make the case that it does a fairly good job in some nations. Certainly I’ve not seen any evidence to suggest that any other system is particularly foolproof, though.

    Anyway, afaic it made the right decision on Brexit.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    Certainly I’ve not seen any evidence to suggest that any other system is particularly foolproof, though.

    I agree. Whether the popular will has made the “best decision” will have to be examined and debated using whatever goals or values that we hold. Saying that we want the popular will to decide is a value of course. Many of our earliest political leaders worked very hard to insulate our governmental institutions from “mob-ocracy,” but the trend has been clear for some time now concerning increased suffrage and more direct rule. As you point out, no other system has shown its superiority. If we evaluate the historical rule by the “better elements,” it is clear enough that they made just as many “mistakes” as the populace does today. Not only that, they very frequently placed their thumb upon the scales of decision making on the outcomes that favored themselves. Conceding that mistakes are going to be made, it is just as well that everyone participates.

    My main point is that the decision made by the popular will is not fortified as the best or correct one, it is just that we prefer the selection process over any other.
  15. The ceiling for male voters might be over 50%.

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    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    It's already over 50%. Look at Trump's numbers.

    It's the Nice White Ladies that are the problem. They are truly the ones that will ignore the truth until it's literally next door. Trust me, I know. I'm married to one and live among many more. They are very nice people, but they pick up on social cues, and those cues tell them that they - and they're children - will be excommunicated if they dare speak of the truth in public.

    However, one nice thing with upper middle class, suburban white women is that their beliefs are about an inch deep, i.e. they can turn on a dime. If the wind changes, they will switch to our side en mass.
  16. iffen says:
    @Randal
    Always is probably pretty doubtful, but you could certainly make the case that it does a fairly good job in some nations. Certainly I've not seen any evidence to suggest that any other system is particularly foolproof, though.

    Anyway, afaic it made the right decision on Brexit.

    Certainly I’ve not seen any evidence to suggest that any other system is particularly foolproof, though.

    I agree. Whether the popular will has made the “best decision” will have to be examined and debated using whatever goals or values that we hold. Saying that we want the popular will to decide is a value of course. Many of our earliest political leaders worked very hard to insulate our governmental institutions from “mob-ocracy,” but the trend has been clear for some time now concerning increased suffrage and more direct rule. As you point out, no other system has shown its superiority. If we evaluate the historical rule by the “better elements,” it is clear enough that they made just as many “mistakes” as the populace does today. Not only that, they very frequently placed their thumb upon the scales of decision making on the outcomes that favored themselves. Conceding that mistakes are going to be made, it is just as well that everyone participates.

    My main point is that the decision made by the popular will is not fortified as the best or correct one, it is just that we prefer the selection process over any other.

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    • Replies: @Randal

    My main point is that the decision made by the popular will is not fortified as the best or correct one, it is just that we prefer the selection process over any other.
     
    It's a fair point.

    Going back to the original context, though, it's one thing arguing that representative democracy means that it is what the representatives say that goes, not what the masses want, applied to everyday choices and decisions. It's a step further, and perhaps too far, to actually ask the people what they want to do on a specific issue and then try to ignore their response.
  17. @anon
    The ceiling is the percentage who know the truth.

    This is a function of immigrant numbers vs the media's power to hide the truth.

    (In particular their ability to hide the truth from the upper middle class who dominate politics - which unfortunately is very easy as the upper middle class don't come into personal contact with the truth.)

    As the immigrant percentage goes up the absolute voting ceiling goes down but the percentage of natives who know the truth goes up.

    Eventually a tipping point will be reached where the media can't hide the truth any more and the globalists will remove the mask and use naked force and coercion.

    (The actual percentage needed to trigger this reaction varies by how densely populated a country is.)

    We are pretty close to that point now in some countries - notably France and Sweden.

    As we near that point the EU elites will start to impose Orwellian laws and build an army with north African immigrants - couched in terms of multicult and diversity - which they will use as their Janissaries against the native population.

    “Eventually a tipping point will be reached where the media can’t hide the truth any more and the globalists will remove the mask and use naked force and coercion.”

    The globalists won’t need to use force. By the time that the vast majority of whites (including a large part – maybe even the majority – of the upper middle class) figure things out, whites are a minority in their own country. Even if whites vote 80% or even 90% as a group, which won’t happen, you are overwhelmed by the blacks and the browns.

    It’s over. I mean, democracy is sacred, right.

    European and American whites are looking at going down the path of whites in South Africa if they stick with democracy. Nope, whites only hope is to start forming ethnic-based groups, charities, schools, etc. Nothing violent, nothing illegal. Just start creating a society within the greater multi-culti society. Use Jews as a template.

    Then, bit by bit, start separating your group, even pushing for a homeland – again, just like the Jews. At some point down the road, maybe in a generation or two, there will come an opportunity to break away in a more political, maybe even territorial, sense.

    But for now, whites need to simply show some pride and start building bonds.

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    The globalists won’t need to use force.
     
    They will create a Janissary army and then attempt to use that Janissary army to kill us.

    At some point along this sequence their Janissaries will turn on them - how it goes after that is anyone's guess.

    #

    You think you have enough money to avoid it all and maybe you do hence your wishful thinking - but bear in mind the banking mafia will have wiped out pensions by then.
    , @Corvinus
    "European and American whites are looking at going down the path of whites in South Africa if they stick with democracy."

    Nothing better than a Fake News Story by author Chicken Little. What will happen is that western influenced structures in America will be transformed from within to reflect the will of the people as it always has been.

    "Nope, whites only hope is to start forming ethnic-based groups, charities, schools, etc. Nothing violent, nothing illegal. Just start creating a society within the greater multi-culti society. Use Jews as a template."

    American whites are capable of making their own racial decisions. Feel free to create your own white-based societies within the nation. Our homeland is for, by, and of Americans...not whites.

    "But for now, whites need to simply show some pride and start building bonds."

    Everyday white Americans demonstrate their devotion to their country. They have established business and cultural ties. Why you are blind to this phenomenon?
  18. @Erik Sieven
    The ceiling for male voters might be over 50%.

    It’s already over 50%. Look at Trump’s numbers.

    It’s the Nice White Ladies that are the problem. They are truly the ones that will ignore the truth until it’s literally next door. Trust me, I know. I’m married to one and live among many more. They are very nice people, but they pick up on social cues, and those cues tell them that they – and they’re children – will be excommunicated if they dare speak of the truth in public.

    However, one nice thing with upper middle class, suburban white women is that their beliefs are about an inch deep, i.e. they can turn on a dime. If the wind changes, they will switch to our side en mass.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    One big part of the problem is the large and growing number of white women who never have children. They don't have their own children to protect and worry about, and thus we can't fully appeal to their natural maternal instinct and drive to protect children from aggressors.

    The same is typically true of homosexual men. They almost never have children of their own and so we cannot appeal to their common sense and protective instincts as fellow parents.

    We will need a very high percentage of support and involvement from white people who have children -- and some meaningful support from decent, English-speaking, civilized people of other backgrounds who have children -- in order to take back our country and begin restoring it.

    I think it can be done!

  19. @iffen
    the popular will

    And, of course, we all know that the populace always makes the best decisions.

    In this case, the sensible, courageous, and patriotic part of “the populace” is trying to ensure that hostile or unassimilable people from alien cultures do not push them aside as “the populace” and “the electorate.” And they’re right to do so, before it’s too late.

    God Bless the Brexiteers. Do whatever it takes to force the Brit government to heed the actual BRITISH people’s wishes with regard to the EU and everything else.

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  20. @anon
    The ceiling is the percentage who know the truth.

    This is a function of immigrant numbers vs the media's power to hide the truth.

    (In particular their ability to hide the truth from the upper middle class who dominate politics - which unfortunately is very easy as the upper middle class don't come into personal contact with the truth.)

    As the immigrant percentage goes up the absolute voting ceiling goes down but the percentage of natives who know the truth goes up.

    Eventually a tipping point will be reached where the media can't hide the truth any more and the globalists will remove the mask and use naked force and coercion.

    (The actual percentage needed to trigger this reaction varies by how densely populated a country is.)

    We are pretty close to that point now in some countries - notably France and Sweden.

    As we near that point the EU elites will start to impose Orwellian laws and build an army with north African immigrants - couched in terms of multicult and diversity - which they will use as their Janissaries against the native population.

    Well put.

    African-”americans” are already in effect a disorganized army terrorizing decent people, especially whites, day and night whenever they can.

    They claim blocks, then entire neighborhoods, then entire towns, where they are allowed to, by the sheer dint of numbers and relentless brutality and harassment.

    With BLM and other Soros-funded thug groups on the rise, Africans are getting more confident, more aggressive and belligerent than ever before. Look for them to be used as shock troops to threaten, beat, and intimidate white and Asian people away from polling places on a regular basis.

    Decent people of all other backgrounds ought to fight back, and probably will. This, however, will lead to terrible widespread violence which none of us should wish for. Then again, the violence is already here; it’s just a question of whether more-civilized people are going to win or the savages.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    As the other commenter noted, South Africa may well be our future, made even more vibrant by 'healthy' doses of asians and hispanics.

    The white people I know would welcome this, almost to a man/woman. After a few decades of MSM propaganda, they think it's better than we deserve.
  21. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    It's already over 50%. Look at Trump's numbers.

    It's the Nice White Ladies that are the problem. They are truly the ones that will ignore the truth until it's literally next door. Trust me, I know. I'm married to one and live among many more. They are very nice people, but they pick up on social cues, and those cues tell them that they - and they're children - will be excommunicated if they dare speak of the truth in public.

    However, one nice thing with upper middle class, suburban white women is that their beliefs are about an inch deep, i.e. they can turn on a dime. If the wind changes, they will switch to our side en mass.

    One big part of the problem is the large and growing number of white women who never have children. They don’t have their own children to protect and worry about, and thus we can’t fully appeal to their natural maternal instinct and drive to protect children from aggressors.

    The same is typically true of homosexual men. They almost never have children of their own and so we cannot appeal to their common sense and protective instincts as fellow parents.

    We will need a very high percentage of support and involvement from white people who have children — and some meaningful support from decent, English-speaking, civilized people of other backgrounds who have children — in order to take back our country and begin restoring it.

    I think it can be done!

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    • Replies: @Jason Liu
    Single women are a danger to society. Simplistic and true.
    , @Corvinus
    "One big part of the problem is the large and growing number of white women who never have children. They don’t have their own children to protect and worry about, and thus we can’t fully appeal to their natural maternal instinct and drive to protect children from aggressors."

    The issue in reality is the liberty that American men and women enjoy today. Technological advancements are abound. Individuals are compelled to live their own lives without restraint. Cultural mores are radically different compared to 50 years ago. Moreover, economic considerations, ranging from high personal debt to stagnant wages among the lower and middle classes, are also playing a major role while increasing numbers of people, most notably millennials, are unmarried and/or do not have children.

    "We will need a very high percentage of support and involvement from white people who have children — and some meaningful support from decent, English-speaking, civilized people of other backgrounds who have children — in order to take back our country and begin restoring it."

    Please define "civilized people". I'm sure that you have also offered your "meaningful support" by siring 5 to 8 white offspring, correct?
    , @Kyle McKenna
    FWIW, I know single women and gay men who are most assuredly opposed to the third-world flood currently wrecking America. Granted, they're likely distinct minorities in their respective groups, but I doubt there's any benefit to alienating them right off the bat.
  22. The countries of the EU are nothing more than a collection of chamberpots and urinals of the White House.

    Long live president Trump!

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  23. Randal says:
    @iffen
    Certainly I’ve not seen any evidence to suggest that any other system is particularly foolproof, though.

    I agree. Whether the popular will has made the “best decision” will have to be examined and debated using whatever goals or values that we hold. Saying that we want the popular will to decide is a value of course. Many of our earliest political leaders worked very hard to insulate our governmental institutions from “mob-ocracy,” but the trend has been clear for some time now concerning increased suffrage and more direct rule. As you point out, no other system has shown its superiority. If we evaluate the historical rule by the “better elements,” it is clear enough that they made just as many “mistakes” as the populace does today. Not only that, they very frequently placed their thumb upon the scales of decision making on the outcomes that favored themselves. Conceding that mistakes are going to be made, it is just as well that everyone participates.

    My main point is that the decision made by the popular will is not fortified as the best or correct one, it is just that we prefer the selection process over any other.

    My main point is that the decision made by the popular will is not fortified as the best or correct one, it is just that we prefer the selection process over any other.

    It’s a fair point.

    Going back to the original context, though, it’s one thing arguing that representative democracy means that it is what the representatives say that goes, not what the masses want, applied to everyday choices and decisions. It’s a step further, and perhaps too far, to actually ask the people what they want to do on a specific issue and then try to ignore their response.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    It’s a step further, and perhaps too far, to actually ask the people what they want to do on a specific issue and then try to ignore their response.

    Yes, and it is very telling that certain segments of your political class seem to be entertaining the idea. I expect that the British would be no more shocked than Americans that politicians say one thing and do another.
  24. Richard S says:
    @Anon

    three-way American-style tussle between the authority of this court, the authority of Parliament, and the authority of the Executive—which is to say dithering nonentity Theresa May and her cabinet.
     
    Isn't the Crown the executive?

    The crown is sovereign. The courts are “royal”, the government is HM. All the pre-19th century levers of powers in fact. The armed forces, the church, the prison system, customs and revenue etc etc are all headed, in principle, by the monarch.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    You are wrong about that. But if it were true that the sovereign actually was in charge of the government prime minister and the various cabinet departments: then just what has the sovereign been doing since 1948 ro save the native British people from drowning in black and brown Muslim immigrants?

    You're not English are you?
    , @Wizard of Oz
    You seem to have missed his "in principle" though "nominally" might have been closer. He is not wrong despite the constutional convention, which the Supreme Court might well hold to be effectively law that the monarch only exercises the powers of government, or acts as part of the government, e.g. in diplomatic matters, on the advice of the PM. There is a nice little reserve of power when a new PM has to be appointed if all that is known is that the previous PM had died or lost the confidence of the Commons (as to which latter the sayso of the Speaker would probably be conclusive but, quaere, not necessarily justiciable).
  25. iffen says:
    @Randal

    My main point is that the decision made by the popular will is not fortified as the best or correct one, it is just that we prefer the selection process over any other.
     
    It's a fair point.

    Going back to the original context, though, it's one thing arguing that representative democracy means that it is what the representatives say that goes, not what the masses want, applied to everyday choices and decisions. It's a step further, and perhaps too far, to actually ask the people what they want to do on a specific issue and then try to ignore their response.

    It’s a step further, and perhaps too far, to actually ask the people what they want to do on a specific issue and then try to ignore their response.

    Yes, and it is very telling that certain segments of your political class seem to be entertaining the idea. I expect that the British would be no more shocked than Americans that politicians say one thing and do another.

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  26. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    National Review guy who actually supported Trump.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Great speech by Hanson, thanks for the link.
    , @Miro23
    Yes, this is a great speech that really says it all. Essential viewing.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Loved Hanson's book "Mexifornia" but it hasn't been updated since about 2007. That, unfortunately, is an eternity given the accelerating pace of the Mexican invasion and colonization of California. I hope that he finds time to issue a new revised edition in the next couple years.

    When I bought Hanson's book in 2008, I never planned, wanted, or expected to live in California. Yet a good job came up here when I needed one, and here I am, to my great surprise, attempting to raise a family in the belly of the beast, Los Angeles.

    Our experience confirms that Hanson's observations and concerns are valid, and then some.

  27. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    "Eventually a tipping point will be reached where the media can’t hide the truth any more and the globalists will remove the mask and use naked force and coercion."

    The globalists won't need to use force. By the time that the vast majority of whites (including a large part - maybe even the majority - of the upper middle class) figure things out, whites are a minority in their own country. Even if whites vote 80% or even 90% as a group, which won't happen, you are overwhelmed by the blacks and the browns.

    It's over. I mean, democracy is sacred, right.

    European and American whites are looking at going down the path of whites in South Africa if they stick with democracy. Nope, whites only hope is to start forming ethnic-based groups, charities, schools, etc. Nothing violent, nothing illegal. Just start creating a society within the greater multi-culti society. Use Jews as a template.

    Then, bit by bit, start separating your group, even pushing for a homeland - again, just like the Jews. At some point down the road, maybe in a generation or two, there will come an opportunity to break away in a more political, maybe even territorial, sense.

    But for now, whites need to simply show some pride and start building bonds.

    The globalists won’t need to use force.

    They will create a Janissary army and then attempt to use that Janissary army to kill us.

    At some point along this sequence their Janissaries will turn on them – how it goes after that is anyone’s guess.

    #

    You think you have enough money to avoid it all and maybe you do hence your wishful thinking – but bear in mind the banking mafia will have wiped out pensions by then.

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  28. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Europe is toast

    Likely. But aren't most white countries.

    United States:
    Whites are minority of births in the United States. Immigration continues. Toast.

    England:
    Muslims are 10% of births in England. One in three are not even English - though some of those are non-English white. Immigration continues, especially Muslim immigration. In a few decades, England's under-40 population will be at least 15% Muslim and probably another 10%-15% non-white. Once Muslims hit 15% of your population, look out. Toast.

    France:
    Using testing of newborns for Sickle Cell disease as a proxy for at least one non-white parent, nearly one in three births in France is to a child with at least one non-white parent. Those kids will be either North African Muslim or African. Muslims likely will be nearly 20% of France's under-40 population in a decade or two. Toast.

    Germany
    Germany just seem intent on destroying itself. Don't even need statistics. It's mental.

    Sweden:
    Toast for a variety of reasons

    Australia:
    Granted Australia was smart enough not to import an underclass, but they are importing an overclass of Asians. Perhaps not toast, but certainly not a white Anglo-Saxon country in a few generations.

    Canada:
    See Australia, though Canada seems to go for a few more Muslims and Jamaicans.

    The funny thing is that if just one group of whites decides to stand up for themselves, I'd wouldn't be worried at all. But for a number of bizarre reasons, we seem intent on committing suicide. However, trends change. Perhaps whites have simply been on top so long that we've forgotten how to scrap and fight for our place in the sun. We may find that fight within us again someday. I hope so.

    If there is hope, it lies in the East.

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    Stupid sentiment. We're all in this together, whether we want to admit it or not. The East is old and poor. If they had good demographics, you could make a case but they don't. They are depopulating.

    As for the general theory, IIRC 60% of all men in Austria voted for Hofer. Women voted 65% for VDB, so he won. In the end, men tend to be more radical than women and are more likely to be in vanguard movements that change the political direction. I'm more worried about America than I am about Europe.

    , @RadicalCenter
    I don't think it's a stupid sentiment, contra "Anon", but he's right about demographics to the East.

    Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians, Poles, etc., simply don't have enough children to be a sufficiently strong force to preserve something resembling our civilization.

    Let's hope that the governments of those countries take stronger steps to incentivize their native Slavic people to have more children, many more children, ASAP. Poland likely "cannot" do so without leaving the EU, which they had better do if they wish to survive Europe's accelerating surrender to Muslim and African colonization & domination.
  29. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Anonym
    There you see a problem with all these European nationalist movements. There seems to be a ceiling in their support, a ceiling well below fifty percent. Most voters prefer Establishment suits like the winner in Austria.

    This "ceiling"... now where have I heard that before...

    This “ceiling”… now where have I heard that before…

    Trump broke through the ceiling by focusing on economic issues and trade as well as immigration. He broke through by moving significantly to the Left (in his rhetoric anyway).

    The European nationalist parties won’t break through the 20-25% ceiling unless they can find a way to convince voters that they’re a better choice on all issues, not just on immigration.

    Immigration control is not an election-winning issue because most people are completely incapable of thinking about the long term. The fact that immigration might cause immense problems in a few decades’ time is not only irrelevant to them, it is simply beyond their powers of comprehension. They have trouble thinking further ahead than their next pay packet.

    Nationalist parties need to focus on here-and-now economic issues while still maintaining their anti-immigration stand.

    The European nationalist parties also need to find a way to distance themselves from the political right. Rightwing populist nationalism is political poison. Leftwing populist nationalism might be much easier to sell.

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    Most of the Euro nationalist parties already do this, they are quite socialist.
  30. Jason Liu says:
    @RadicalCenter
    One big part of the problem is the large and growing number of white women who never have children. They don't have their own children to protect and worry about, and thus we can't fully appeal to their natural maternal instinct and drive to protect children from aggressors.

    The same is typically true of homosexual men. They almost never have children of their own and so we cannot appeal to their common sense and protective instincts as fellow parents.

    We will need a very high percentage of support and involvement from white people who have children -- and some meaningful support from decent, English-speaking, civilized people of other backgrounds who have children -- in order to take back our country and begin restoring it.

    I think it can be done!

    Single women are a danger to society. Simplistic and true.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Single women are a danger to society. Simplistic and true."

    Corrected for accuracy --> Men and women regardless of their race, ethnicity, or marital status, are considered dangerous because of their demonstrated refusal to abide by established norms.

    Now, "Jason", how many white children do you have in your brood?
  31. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Diversity Heretic
    If there is hope, it lies in the East.

    Stupid sentiment. We’re all in this together, whether we want to admit it or not. The East is old and poor. If they had good demographics, you could make a case but they don’t. They are depopulating.

    As for the general theory, IIRC 60% of all men in Austria voted for Hofer. Women voted 65% for VDB, so he won. In the end, men tend to be more radical than women and are more likely to be in vanguard movements that change the political direction. I’m more worried about America than I am about Europe.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Nothing he said contradicts the notion that "we're all in his together."

    He's simply opining that what little hope there is, lies to the East, not in Western and Central Europe, Canada, or the USA.

    I'm not quiet that pessimistic yet about my beloved America, but I can see the point. The brainwashing of our youth to mock and eschew normal family formation and normal sex roles (not "gender") seems far more advanced in USA, Canada, and western/central Europe than in eastern Europe and Russia.

    , @Diversity Heretic
    I just can't get that worked up about declining birth rates (although I admire and respect Mark Steyn). Automation is going to take lots of jobs away in any event. Some of the population figures I've seen show Eastern Europe to be around 1950 population figures by mid-21st Century. I guess I missed that literature bemoaning the howling, unpopulated wastelands of 1950s Hungary and Poland. If you don't have children and choose to replace yourselves with imported third-worlders, that's another, much more dreadful, matter, but below replacement birth rates, without more, do not overly concern me.
  32. Miro23 says:

    30% might be a ceiling purely on the immigration issue but the Brexit and Trump electoral successes came from coalitions.

    Immigration was an important part, but it also had plenty to do with other issues like outsourcing, special interest access to politicians, WMD lies, costly and futile MENA wars, stagnant middle class earnings etc.

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  33. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    National Review guy who actually supported Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7pQdqPzozc

    Great speech by Hanson, thanks for the link.

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  34. Miro23 says:
    @Anon
    National Review guy who actually supported Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7pQdqPzozc

    Yes, this is a great speech that really says it all. Essential viewing.

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  35. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    "Eventually a tipping point will be reached where the media can’t hide the truth any more and the globalists will remove the mask and use naked force and coercion."

    The globalists won't need to use force. By the time that the vast majority of whites (including a large part - maybe even the majority - of the upper middle class) figure things out, whites are a minority in their own country. Even if whites vote 80% or even 90% as a group, which won't happen, you are overwhelmed by the blacks and the browns.

    It's over. I mean, democracy is sacred, right.

    European and American whites are looking at going down the path of whites in South Africa if they stick with democracy. Nope, whites only hope is to start forming ethnic-based groups, charities, schools, etc. Nothing violent, nothing illegal. Just start creating a society within the greater multi-culti society. Use Jews as a template.

    Then, bit by bit, start separating your group, even pushing for a homeland - again, just like the Jews. At some point down the road, maybe in a generation or two, there will come an opportunity to break away in a more political, maybe even territorial, sense.

    But for now, whites need to simply show some pride and start building bonds.

    “European and American whites are looking at going down the path of whites in South Africa if they stick with democracy.”

    Nothing better than a Fake News Story by author Chicken Little. What will happen is that western influenced structures in America will be transformed from within to reflect the will of the people as it always has been.

    “Nope, whites only hope is to start forming ethnic-based groups, charities, schools, etc. Nothing violent, nothing illegal. Just start creating a society within the greater multi-culti society. Use Jews as a template.”

    American whites are capable of making their own racial decisions. Feel free to create your own white-based societies within the nation. Our homeland is for, by, and of Americans…not whites.

    “But for now, whites need to simply show some pride and start building bonds.”

    Everyday white Americans demonstrate their devotion to their country. They have established business and cultural ties. Why you are blind to this phenomenon?

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    Many of us show clearly every day that our first and most heartfelt loyalty is to our NATION and its traditional culture and mores, not our deracinated balkanizing "country" and certainly not the bloated gang of alien thugs called "our" government. "Why are you blind to this phenomenon?"

    By the way, if it's not important for America to remain primarily white in its population and culture, do you live in a majority-black or majority-Mexican neighborhood? If not, is it because you are a deplorable bigot? (and a hypocrite, to boot)
    , @RadicalCenter
    Do you honestly expect that a majority-Muslim or majority-African city is going to be fair and respect the rights, interests, and culture of white Americans? Give our children a fair chance in hiring, promotion, and firing? Leave our children safe and unafraid on the streets, in the schools, and in our homes? "Allow" our children to attend political rallies without physically attacked and threatened (see 2016 prez election already)? "Allow" us to attend church and prosyletize our religion if we so choose?

    Same question about a majority-Mexican and overwhelmingly majority-nonwhite California and Texas.

    YOU may be a fairminded person who truly believes that our homeland is for all "Americans", but you should know by now that tens of millions of non-white people who live right here in the USA do not feel that way about the USA and about white people. And they are prepared to take extreme action against us in service of their prejudice and hatred.

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    "What will happen is that western influenced structures in America will be transformed from within to reflect the will of the people as it always has been."

    You got that one right. Except, the will of the new people will be very different than the will of the founding stock. It will not be "western influenced." Look at Africa. Look at the Middle East. Look at Mexico and South America. That's what our structures will look like with the new population because that is "Who they are" as Obama likes to say.

    Cultures spring from people and reflect their genetic predispositions. You can no more ask a large African population to act white than you can to ask a dog to fly. The U.S. has no magic dirt that will turn low IQ, low future oriented Africans and mestizos into NW Europeans. NE Asians have the IQ, but may lack the inherit individualism of NW Europeans.

    Countries reflect their populations. Africans as a group will never succeed in replicating the West. Show me one successful black-run country in the world. And no South Africa doesn't count because they have the British legacy and a significant white population. (But even South Africa will fail over time.)

    "American whites are capable of making their own racial decisions."

    They certainly are capable but they are not allowed to implement those decisions. Do you really think that the majority of whites wouldn't choose to live in white-only or white/Asian-only communities if it were legally and socially allowed?

    You fool yourself that whites want to live around blacks and Hispanics. Perhaps you are black and have white friends. And, indeed, they almost certainly do like you and like you as a neighbor. But they also understand the danger of blacks as a group and if they were forced to choose between a 100% white neighborhood and 50/50 white/black neighborhood, they would choose the white neighborhood every time.

    That's why my vision of the future - one where whites who wish to live among their own - should be so terrifying for someone like yourself. If even a quarter or third of whites started to self-segregate, it would force the other whites to choose. And they would choose their own.

    "Feel free to create your own white-based societies within the nation. Our homeland is for, by, and of Americans…not whites."

    Thank you for making my point. The term "American" has become pointless. If a club has no membership requirement, it's not a club. Proposition nations fail. The word nation comes from the Latin word natio, meaning "people, tribe, kin, genus, class, flock."

    Besides, what do you care if some deplorable whites want to live among their own. I don't care if blacks want to live in their own communities or set up their own self-contained society. Good for them.

    "Everyday white Americans demonstrate their devotion to their country. They have established business and cultural ties. Why you are blind to this phenomenon?"

    Everyday white Americans have no choice but to live and work with blacks and browns. Give them a choice and see what they do. Judging from even liberal whites do when deciding where to live and where to send their kids to school, it's not hard to figure out what whites would do.

    Face it. Blacks and mestizos are incapable - as a group - to managed a Western society. They just aren't - and everybody knows it.
  36. Corvinus says:
    @RadicalCenter
    One big part of the problem is the large and growing number of white women who never have children. They don't have their own children to protect and worry about, and thus we can't fully appeal to their natural maternal instinct and drive to protect children from aggressors.

    The same is typically true of homosexual men. They almost never have children of their own and so we cannot appeal to their common sense and protective instincts as fellow parents.

    We will need a very high percentage of support and involvement from white people who have children -- and some meaningful support from decent, English-speaking, civilized people of other backgrounds who have children -- in order to take back our country and begin restoring it.

    I think it can be done!

    “One big part of the problem is the large and growing number of white women who never have children. They don’t have their own children to protect and worry about, and thus we can’t fully appeal to their natural maternal instinct and drive to protect children from aggressors.”

    The issue in reality is the liberty that American men and women enjoy today. Technological advancements are abound. Individuals are compelled to live their own lives without restraint. Cultural mores are radically different compared to 50 years ago. Moreover, economic considerations, ranging from high personal debt to stagnant wages among the lower and middle classes, are also playing a major role while increasing numbers of people, most notably millennials, are unmarried and/or do not have children.

    “We will need a very high percentage of support and involvement from white people who have children — and some meaningful support from decent, English-speaking, civilized people of other backgrounds who have children — in order to take back our country and begin restoring it.”

    Please define “civilized people”. I’m sure that you have also offered your “meaningful support” by siring 5 to 8 white offspring, correct?

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    How the Hell would you know what I've done and how I live?

    So far my wife and I have three very young children and are hoping for a fourth.

    We are teaching them English and German, and inculcating in them a strong identity, work ethic, honesty, and pride in their ancestry, in traditional normal America, and in our values.

    Later on, we will ensure that they learn self-defense -- including responsible, effective use of firearms -- and become fluent in Spanish. I'll wager that your children won't be any more prepared for the country as it is and as it is becoming, nor more equipped to do their part to take back what we can of this great land and its culture.

    And are you really in grave doubt as to what "civilized people" means? For one thing, do you think it includes Muslims and Africans and others who have made clear their violent hatred towards us and our way of life? Do you think it includes people who come to this country and promptly go on the welfare dole at our expense? Do you think it includes people who have children by multiple women without marrying and supporting any of them? Do you think it includes people who espouse the physical abuse of their wives and the forced or "arranged" marriage of young girls to men? Do you think "civilized people" includes people who tattoo their faces or their entire bodies like Incan / Mayan savages? I doubt you do.

    Also, are you under the impression that a movement comprised only of all-white people -- without some "civilized", English-speaking, America-loving people of other races -- will be enough to prevail in the coming years?

    , @RadicalCenter
    I agree with much of what you say, including this comment, and am customarily impressed by HOW you say it. Too bad you're being unnecessarily hostile at the moment and implying things not in evidence.
  37. Corvinus says:
    @Jason Liu
    Single women are a danger to society. Simplistic and true.

    “Single women are a danger to society. Simplistic and true.”

    Corrected for accuracy –> Men and women regardless of their race, ethnicity, or marital status, are considered dangerous because of their demonstrated refusal to abide by established norms.

    Now, “Jason”, how many white children do you have in your brood?

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    Let's amend Jason's comment to "women who remain single well into their adulthood are unusually easily confused and led in the wrong direction, and DISPROPORTIONATELY pose a danger to a healthy, strong, cohesive, proud, sustainable society." Can you go for that proposition?
  38. @Anon
    National Review guy who actually supported Trump.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7pQdqPzozc

    Loved Hanson’s book “Mexifornia” but it hasn’t been updated since about 2007. That, unfortunately, is an eternity given the accelerating pace of the Mexican invasion and colonization of California. I hope that he finds time to issue a new revised edition in the next couple years.

    When I bought Hanson’s book in 2008, I never planned, wanted, or expected to live in California. Yet a good job came up here when I needed one, and here I am, to my great surprise, attempting to raise a family in the belly of the beast, Los Angeles.

    Our experience confirms that Hanson’s observations and concerns are valid, and then some.

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  39. @Diversity Heretic
    If there is hope, it lies in the East.

    I don’t think it’s a stupid sentiment, contra “Anon”, but he’s right about demographics to the East.

    Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians, Poles, etc., simply don’t have enough children to be a sufficiently strong force to preserve something resembling our civilization.

    Let’s hope that the governments of those countries take stronger steps to incentivize their native Slavic people to have more children, many more children, ASAP. Poland likely “cannot” do so without leaving the EU, which they had better do if they wish to survive Europe’s accelerating surrender to Muslim and African colonization & domination.

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    have more children, many more children, ASAP
     
    I'm always seeing this exhortation among alt-right types. But caucasians cannot out-reproduce the mud peoples. And even if we could, the world is already too crowded.

    The way out is not to overproduce ourselves but to force the mud peoples to limit their own out-of-control fecundity, and the way to do that is to stop enabling it. How do we enable it? Among other things, by helping to finance it and by accepting tens of millions of their excess population.

    There's a lot we could do, by simply not doing what we're now doing. Apologies to Demosthenes.

    , @dfordoom

    Let’s hope that the governments of those countries take stronger steps to incentivize their native Slavic people to have more children, many more children, ASAP.
     
    The only way to do that is to roll back the feminist madness. Eliminate all those pretend jobs that women do, like social workers and similar nonsense. Get married women out of the workforce. Eliminate silly Mickey Mouse degrees that women love. Make sure men earn enough to support a family on one wage.

    I don't see it happening. The trouble is that the things that need to be done are simple, but in practice almost impossible.
  40. @Anon
    Stupid sentiment. We're all in this together, whether we want to admit it or not. The East is old and poor. If they had good demographics, you could make a case but they don't. They are depopulating.

    As for the general theory, IIRC 60% of all men in Austria voted for Hofer. Women voted 65% for VDB, so he won. In the end, men tend to be more radical than women and are more likely to be in vanguard movements that change the political direction. I'm more worried about America than I am about Europe.

    Nothing he said contradicts the notion that “we’re all in his together.”

    He’s simply opining that what little hope there is, lies to the East, not in Western and Central Europe, Canada, or the USA.

    I’m not quiet that pessimistic yet about my beloved America, but I can see the point. The brainwashing of our youth to mock and eschew normal family formation and normal sex roles (not “gender”) seems far more advanced in USA, Canada, and western/central Europe than in eastern Europe and Russia.

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  41. @Corvinus
    "European and American whites are looking at going down the path of whites in South Africa if they stick with democracy."

    Nothing better than a Fake News Story by author Chicken Little. What will happen is that western influenced structures in America will be transformed from within to reflect the will of the people as it always has been.

    "Nope, whites only hope is to start forming ethnic-based groups, charities, schools, etc. Nothing violent, nothing illegal. Just start creating a society within the greater multi-culti society. Use Jews as a template."

    American whites are capable of making their own racial decisions. Feel free to create your own white-based societies within the nation. Our homeland is for, by, and of Americans...not whites.

    "But for now, whites need to simply show some pride and start building bonds."

    Everyday white Americans demonstrate their devotion to their country. They have established business and cultural ties. Why you are blind to this phenomenon?

    Many of us show clearly every day that our first and most heartfelt loyalty is to our NATION and its traditional culture and mores, not our deracinated balkanizing “country” and certainly not the bloated gang of alien thugs called “our” government. “Why are you blind to this phenomenon?”

    By the way, if it’s not important for America to remain primarily white in its population and culture, do you live in a majority-black or majority-Mexican neighborhood? If not, is it because you are a deplorable bigot? (and a hypocrite, to boot)

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  42. @Corvinus
    "One big part of the problem is the large and growing number of white women who never have children. They don’t have their own children to protect and worry about, and thus we can’t fully appeal to their natural maternal instinct and drive to protect children from aggressors."

    The issue in reality is the liberty that American men and women enjoy today. Technological advancements are abound. Individuals are compelled to live their own lives without restraint. Cultural mores are radically different compared to 50 years ago. Moreover, economic considerations, ranging from high personal debt to stagnant wages among the lower and middle classes, are also playing a major role while increasing numbers of people, most notably millennials, are unmarried and/or do not have children.

    "We will need a very high percentage of support and involvement from white people who have children — and some meaningful support from decent, English-speaking, civilized people of other backgrounds who have children — in order to take back our country and begin restoring it."

    Please define "civilized people". I'm sure that you have also offered your "meaningful support" by siring 5 to 8 white offspring, correct?

    How the Hell would you know what I’ve done and how I live?

    So far my wife and I have three very young children and are hoping for a fourth.

    We are teaching them English and German, and inculcating in them a strong identity, work ethic, honesty, and pride in their ancestry, in traditional normal America, and in our values.

    Later on, we will ensure that they learn self-defense — including responsible, effective use of firearms — and become fluent in Spanish. I’ll wager that your children won’t be any more prepared for the country as it is and as it is becoming, nor more equipped to do their part to take back what we can of this great land and its culture.

    And are you really in grave doubt as to what “civilized people” means? For one thing, do you think it includes Muslims and Africans and others who have made clear their violent hatred towards us and our way of life? Do you think it includes people who come to this country and promptly go on the welfare dole at our expense? Do you think it includes people who have children by multiple women without marrying and supporting any of them? Do you think it includes people who espouse the physical abuse of their wives and the forced or “arranged” marriage of young girls to men? Do you think “civilized people” includes people who tattoo their faces or their entire bodies like Incan / Mayan savages? I doubt you do.

    Also, are you under the impression that a movement comprised only of all-white people — without some “civilized”, English-speaking, America-loving people of other races — will be enough to prevail in the coming years?

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    ‘So far my wife and I have three very young children and are hoping for a fourth.”

    

Excellent. I have two sons of my own.

    “We are teaching them English and German, and inculcating in them a strong identity, work ethic, honesty, and pride in their ancestry, in traditional normal America, and in our values.”

    Same here, except I speak Polish learned from my grandmother. Traditional, normal America? 
Traditional, as in Christian values. Normal? That is a loaded term. Means different things to different people.

    “Later on, we will ensure that they learn self-defense — including responsible, effective use of firearms — and become fluent in Spanish.”


    Yes, it is important to know how to handle a pistol or rifle. My sons will choose what language they want to learn in high school. They have several options.

    
“I’ll wager that your children won’t be any more prepared for the country as it is and as it is becoming, nor more equipped to do their part to take back what we can of this great land and its culture.”

    

My sons will be well-prepared for the future. Regarding “taking back what they can”, no, I don’t share that sentiment. More like “giving back to their community” through public service and treating people regardless of race or ethnic or sexual orientation with respect and dignity.

    “For one thing, do you think it includes Muslims and Africans and others who have made clear their violent hatred towards us and our way of life?”


    Civilized people includes American citizens of Muslim and African descent who embrace American culture or are working toward embracing American culture.

    
“Do you think it includes people who come to this country and promptly go on the welfare dole at our expense?”

    I would have to see hard numbers regarding how many immigrants are automatically “on the dole” and how many are gainfully employed by small business owners and large companies.

    “Do you think it includes people who have children by multiple women without marrying and supporting any of them?”

    No.

    “Do you think it includes people who espouse the physical abuse of their wives and the forced or “arranged” marriage of young girls to men?”

    Not my place to say. Their cultural values where they reside. Certainly if such people come to our country, it’s our customs and our rules they have to abide by.

    “Do you think “civilized people” includes people who tattoo their faces or their entire bodies like Incan / Mayan savages? I doubt you do.”

    I was taught that the content of a person’s character is most important. If a person is all “tatted up”, and they are kind and considerate, that is what counts.

    “Also, are you under the impression that a movement comprised only of all-white people — without some “civilized”, English-speaking, America-loving people of other races — will be enough to prevail in the coming years?”



    You would have to talk to Jared Taylor and his ilk about that movement.

    “Do you honestly expect that a **majority-Muslim or majority-African city** is going to be fair and respect the rights, interests, and culture of white Americans? Give our children a fair chance in hiring, promotion, and firing? Leave our children safe and unafraid on the streets, in the schools, and in our homes? “Allow” our children to attend political rallies without physically attacked and threatened (see 2016 prez election already)? “Allow” us to attend church and prosyletize our religion if we so choose?” Same question about a majority-Mexican and overwhelmingly majority-nonwhite California and Texas.”


    Yes to all questions. I’m not falling for the Chicken Little Scenario, or the references to South Africa. Perhaps you underestimate the human condition, behavioral conduct, and aspirations of non-whites.

    “YOU may be a fairminded person who truly believes that our homeland is for all “Americans”, but you should know by now that tens of millions of non-white people who live right here in the USA do not feel that way about the USA and about white people. And they are prepared to take extreme action against us in service of their prejudice and hatred.”

    They may harbor certain hostilities, but it may not be necessarily racially motivated, and they may not be inclined to "stick it to Whitey" for past mistreatment.

    “Many of us show clearly every day that our first and most heartfelt loyalty is to our NATION and its traditional culture and mores, not our deracinated balkanizing “country” and certainly not the bloated gang of alien thugs called “our” government. “Why are you blind to this phenomenon?””



    Our nation that consists of a wide range of people from all continents. Americans are mutts. Certainly, there are undeniable elements of small-scale balkanization in the United States, but I’ll wait for the movie to come out regarding this impending race war and partition within the next twenty years. That is a broken record.

    “By the way, if it’s not important for America to remain primarily white in its population and culture, do you live in a majority-black or majority-Mexican neighborhood? If not, is it because you are a deplorable bigot? (and a hypocrite, to boot)?”

    

I live in a mixed, middle-class neighborhood. Middle-class whites, blacks, Asians, and Hispanics share the same mindset when it comes to social rank—we live far away from people who do not share our lifestyles and our work ethic. It doesn’t mean my neighbors and I will “shun” lower class people on the street or in the mall or at a school, it just means like is attracted to like from an economic standpoint.
  43. @Corvinus
    "Single women are a danger to society. Simplistic and true."

    Corrected for accuracy --> Men and women regardless of their race, ethnicity, or marital status, are considered dangerous because of their demonstrated refusal to abide by established norms.

    Now, "Jason", how many white children do you have in your brood?

    Let’s amend Jason’s comment to “women who remain single well into their adulthood are unusually easily confused and led in the wrong direction, and DISPROPORTIONATELY pose a danger to a healthy, strong, cohesive, proud, sustainable society.” Can you go for that proposition?

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    "Let’s amend Jason’s comment to “women who remain single well into their adulthood are unusually easily confused and led in the wrong direction, and DISPROPORTIONATELY pose a danger to a healthy, strong, cohesive, proud, sustainable society.” Can you go for that proposition?"

    No, I cannot go for this proposition, because one assumes that women lack agency and that men not prone to the same conditions.

    It should read "Men and women who remain single well into their adulthood may have been led in the wrong direction during their upbringing, and could pose a danger to a healthy, strong, cohesive, proud, sustainable society depending on the extent and nature of each individual's immoral and illegal conduct."
  44. @Corvinus
    "One big part of the problem is the large and growing number of white women who never have children. They don’t have their own children to protect and worry about, and thus we can’t fully appeal to their natural maternal instinct and drive to protect children from aggressors."

    The issue in reality is the liberty that American men and women enjoy today. Technological advancements are abound. Individuals are compelled to live their own lives without restraint. Cultural mores are radically different compared to 50 years ago. Moreover, economic considerations, ranging from high personal debt to stagnant wages among the lower and middle classes, are also playing a major role while increasing numbers of people, most notably millennials, are unmarried and/or do not have children.

    "We will need a very high percentage of support and involvement from white people who have children — and some meaningful support from decent, English-speaking, civilized people of other backgrounds who have children — in order to take back our country and begin restoring it."

    Please define "civilized people". I'm sure that you have also offered your "meaningful support" by siring 5 to 8 white offspring, correct?

    I agree with much of what you say, including this comment, and am customarily impressed by HOW you say it. Too bad you’re being unnecessarily hostile at the moment and implying things not in evidence.

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  45. @Corvinus
    "European and American whites are looking at going down the path of whites in South Africa if they stick with democracy."

    Nothing better than a Fake News Story by author Chicken Little. What will happen is that western influenced structures in America will be transformed from within to reflect the will of the people as it always has been.

    "Nope, whites only hope is to start forming ethnic-based groups, charities, schools, etc. Nothing violent, nothing illegal. Just start creating a society within the greater multi-culti society. Use Jews as a template."

    American whites are capable of making their own racial decisions. Feel free to create your own white-based societies within the nation. Our homeland is for, by, and of Americans...not whites.

    "But for now, whites need to simply show some pride and start building bonds."

    Everyday white Americans demonstrate their devotion to their country. They have established business and cultural ties. Why you are blind to this phenomenon?

    Do you honestly expect that a majority-Muslim or majority-African city is going to be fair and respect the rights, interests, and culture of white Americans? Give our children a fair chance in hiring, promotion, and firing? Leave our children safe and unafraid on the streets, in the schools, and in our homes? “Allow” our children to attend political rallies without physically attacked and threatened (see 2016 prez election already)? “Allow” us to attend church and prosyletize our religion if we so choose?

    Same question about a majority-Mexican and overwhelmingly majority-nonwhite California and Texas.

    YOU may be a fairminded person who truly believes that our homeland is for all “Americans”, but you should know by now that tens of millions of non-white people who live right here in the USA do not feel that way about the USA and about white people. And they are prepared to take extreme action against us in service of their prejudice and hatred.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    Whites have been greatly dis advantaged in hiring promotion firing and college admissions since 1968 when the affirmative action civil rights law was passed. Just 2 Supreme Court decisions in the 1970s, Griggs vs Duke Power and Kaiser vs Weber made extreme affirmative action the law of the land. Numerous federal, state, county and city agencies enforce the affirmative action laws.

    It's not individual actions of blacks and Mexicans, it's laws and Supreme Court decisions by elite White men almost 50 years ago that make it almost illegal to hire a White.

    It all happened 50 years ago before the young adult parents of today's young White children were born And it was done by White male judges and members of congress. With a lot of help from ADL, AJC ACLU, Ford and other foundations and the usual suspects

  46. native Slavic people to have more children, many more children, ASAP
    They are, by the shedload, just that it’s in England, on the UK taxpayers’ dime.
    Hey, who can blame them? It’s a race to the tape between them and the Mirpuri/Somali/etc. hegira, and they’re restricted to a paltry single wife each.

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    Since the UK is subsidizing every type of Christian-hating, woman-beating, welfare-abusing backwards muslim and African savage who comes along, I suppose it's not terrible that some Slavs get something from the system before it collapses.

    Are there any stats, though, on Slavic immigrants to the UK relying on welfare more than native Britons?
  47. Anonym says:
    @dfordoom

    This “ceiling”… now where have I heard that before…
     
    Trump broke through the ceiling by focusing on economic issues and trade as well as immigration. He broke through by moving significantly to the Left (in his rhetoric anyway).

    The European nationalist parties won't break through the 20-25% ceiling unless they can find a way to convince voters that they're a better choice on all issues, not just on immigration.

    Immigration control is not an election-winning issue because most people are completely incapable of thinking about the long term. The fact that immigration might cause immense problems in a few decades' time is not only irrelevant to them, it is simply beyond their powers of comprehension. They have trouble thinking further ahead than their next pay packet.

    Nationalist parties need to focus on here-and-now economic issues while still maintaining their anti-immigration stand.

    The European nationalist parties also need to find a way to distance themselves from the political right. Rightwing populist nationalism is political poison. Leftwing populist nationalism might be much easier to sell.

    Most of the Euro nationalist parties already do this, they are quite socialist.

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    Most of the Euro nationalist parties already do this, they are quite socialist.
     
    True, but they still get labelled as "far right."

    The question is, is nationalism simply not electorally appealing enough to attract more than 20% of voters, or is it the dreaded perceived connection with the right?
  48. @Expletive Deleted
    native Slavic people to have more children, many more children, ASAP
    They are, by the shedload, just that it's in England, on the UK taxpayers' dime.
    Hey, who can blame them? It's a race to the tape between them and the Mirpuri/Somali/etc. hegira, and they're restricted to a paltry single wife each.

    Since the UK is subsidizing every type of Christian-hating, woman-beating, welfare-abusing backwards muslim and African savage who comes along, I suppose it’s not terrible that some Slavs get something from the system before it collapses.

    Are there any stats, though, on Slavic immigrants to the UK relying on welfare more than native Britons?

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    For my part, I can offer no stats but it's certainly been my impression that Brits believe it to be true. Sort of hard for us Yanks & Rebs to comprehend, since we haven't suffered a deluge of Slavs. And the Slavs I know are worlds apart from the third-world dross with which America is currently afflicted. But who knows how I'd feel if there were 50 million of them in my country?
    , @Expletive Deleted
    The trick is to get on imbecile (former Chancellor then PM) Gordon Brown's accursed "Tax Credits" scheme, which gives parents (not singletons, who can go and shift for themselves) a substantial no-hard-questions-asked cash income, well in excess of anything they could earn by their own efforts. I can't recall what it is, but it's more than mere waged labour could rake in.

    More kids, more dosh, simples. Bonus for any sort of "disability" in the nippers. Maybe a free people-carrier (automatic, of course).
    Corporates love it, means they can pay minimum wage on zero-hours contracts, and the lower tax cattle subsidize them. All for 16 hrs a week, even working at some notional, self-certified form of self-employment, e.g. dog-walker, hair extensions manager, child minder (a.k.a. single mothers "taking in each others' washing"). Yes, it's ludicrous. So what? Nobody's "unemployed" innit.

    The whole country's at it, Brits (particularly in the abandoned burnt-over districts/rustbelt, oop north in Brexit land), EEs, PIIGS (native) refugees from Eurozone-induced terminal mass unemployment, jihadis, gypsies. It's the main migrant magnet. The Tories daren't touch it as it would cause a Spain-like unemployment crisis, and their tax-dodging business cronies would be mightily displeased with them. The perfect poisoned chalice, left to them by NuLaba.

    It will just go on and on. Until it can't. Tears before bedtime then.

  49. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    The Right used to say Blood and Soil, the struggle for one’s homeland, history, and culture.

    The Left used to say Goods and Toil, the struggle for who gets the goods created by the toil of many.

    But post-modern politics is confused.

    The ‘far right’ in Europe talk about nationalism, but much of their rhetoric is ‘We love Jews and Israel, and we wanna protect homos from Muslims.’

    And the so-called ‘left’? It is into Michael-Jacksonism, a real freakdom. It’s funny. Blackness is associated with ultra-machismo, sports domination, thug culture, and etc. But the most famous black entertainer of the second half of the 20th century was some black guy who not only wanted to be white but wanted to be a white woman.. or a white girl. Michael Jackson was all about fantasy. Once he made lots of money and could choose fantasy over reality, he lived in his own neverland and decided to look white. He ever pretended to have ‘white kids’. He was an example of extreme decadence, hedonism, vanity, and delusion.

    There was a time when the Left stood for the simple workers and farmers who had no time for fantasy. They had to struggle for land, bread, and peace(as elites were often warmongers who used poor folks as cannon fodder). The Left regarded decadence and elite privilege with disdain, even hatred. The Left had no use for people like Ludwig II, the homo emperor of Bavaria who built castles and pranced around with his boy lovers. (Well, give him credit for patronizing Wagner.)

    But over time, even poor people could just rely on welfare and grow fat. Indeed, that is the bigger problem among the ‘poor’ in America. They are obese. Their health is worse than poor folks in Cuba cuz rice and beans are more healthy than gorging on tons of food that are so cheap in America.

    Also, as the privileged classes eventually took over Leftism. And since they loved pop culture, hedonism, youth culture, arts, creativity, hipsterism, and etc — like everyone else — , they refashioned Leftism to be about pleasure, ego, vanity, leisure.
    Also, the Left learned that Pop Culture could be useful tool for spreading their ideas. So, capitalist materialism and hedonism became the platform for ‘leftist’ ideas.

    Also, as economic issues became less urgent — as even poor folks were getting too fat and since welfare provided everyone with basic needs — , the new themes of Leftism became cultural. It was not so much about attacking the rich as about attacking the cultural conservatives, and this meant anything that subverts traditional institutions, moral conventions, and natural norms had to be attacked and mocked.

    Especially given that Jews control much of pop culture and profit greatly from it, Jewish Leftists were not gonna kill the goose that laid the golden egg. But how could Jews maintain the leftist facade while growing richer and richer? If leftism is about the poor attacking the rich, that would undermine Jewish ‘progressive’ narrative since Jews got so rich.
    So, leftism had to move away from economics to culture. This way, even rich Jews could pose as ‘leftists’ struggling against cultural conservatism of all those evil white deplorables. (But even this got ridiculous once the power of Pop Culture turned even a lot of white conservatives onto homo culture and even ‘gay marriage’.)
    But this focus on culture by the left was also a reaction to the culturalism of the right. Since the right came to champion capitalism and the rich class, it economically alienated the working class and underclass. So, how could the American Right appeal to the masses while economically serving the upper-class? By appealing to cultural issues like ‘God and Country’ and ‘family values’.

    Given homos are sexual deviants and at war with normal morality and normal nature, they were favored to lead the new ‘leftism’. But this is the ‘leftism’ of vanity, fantasy, privilege, and etc. It is Ludwig-II-Michael-Jackson-’leftism’.

    Leftism is no longer about shaking people out of capitalist fantasy and forcing them to look at the reality of poverty and broken lives. Rather, it is about an escapism into fantasy as a human right. So, colleges now offer milk and cookies and coloring books and ‘safe spaces’ so that every snowflake can indulge in his, her, or whatever gender’s little Michael-Jacksonlike Neverland.
    Each person can formulate his, her, or whatever-gender’s micro-narrative of egotism and self-indulgence. So, if Emma “fuc* me in the butt” Sulkowicz insists she was ‘raped’, then it is her right spin her own narrative.. and even win an award from the National Disorganization of Women.
    And Sabrina Rubin Erderly allowed Jackie Coakley to spin her own sexual rape fantasy in the UVA rape hoax story. ‘Leftism’ has turned into the Human Rights for Fantasy. We saw this with Black Lives Matter too. Another fantasy narrative that would have us believe that the greatest threat to black lives in America are evil white cops when, in fact, most blacks are killed by other blacks. And of course, many more non-blacks are killed by blacks than other way around. Blacks are the main killers in America.

    Granted, fantasism was nothing new in Leftism. Stalin and Mao spun many fantasies to keep their power. Even so, their themes were about the workers and/or peasants working from morning to night to produce enough to eat and to create more just societies for all.

    In contrast, the new fantasy in ‘leftism’ is about the individual right for escapism into his or her own micro-narratives of self-fulfillment and self-justification, no matter how little they have to do with reality or normality.
    It’s about the fantasy of privileged progs sitting in Starbucks, spending $10 for coffee, and then writing fanfic about how they were attacked by Trump supporters. Right, because Trump supporters frequent Starbucks to make trouble with yuppies.

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  50. Corvinus says:
    @RadicalCenter
    How the Hell would you know what I've done and how I live?

    So far my wife and I have three very young children and are hoping for a fourth.

    We are teaching them English and German, and inculcating in them a strong identity, work ethic, honesty, and pride in their ancestry, in traditional normal America, and in our values.

    Later on, we will ensure that they learn self-defense -- including responsible, effective use of firearms -- and become fluent in Spanish. I'll wager that your children won't be any more prepared for the country as it is and as it is becoming, nor more equipped to do their part to take back what we can of this great land and its culture.

    And are you really in grave doubt as to what "civilized people" means? For one thing, do you think it includes Muslims and Africans and others who have made clear their violent hatred towards us and our way of life? Do you think it includes people who come to this country and promptly go on the welfare dole at our expense? Do you think it includes people who have children by multiple women without marrying and supporting any of them? Do you think it includes people who espouse the physical abuse of their wives and the forced or "arranged" marriage of young girls to men? Do you think "civilized people" includes people who tattoo their faces or their entire bodies like Incan / Mayan savages? I doubt you do.

    Also, are you under the impression that a movement comprised only of all-white people -- without some "civilized", English-speaking, America-loving people of other races -- will be enough to prevail in the coming years?

    ‘So far my wife and I have three very young children and are hoping for a fourth.”

    

Excellent. I have two sons of my own.

    “We are teaching them English and German, and inculcating in them a strong identity, work ethic, honesty, and pride in their ancestry, in traditional normal America, and in our values.”

    Same here, except I speak Polish learned from my grandmother. Traditional, normal America? 
Traditional, as in Christian values. Normal? That is a loaded term. Means different things to different people.

    “Later on, we will ensure that they learn self-defense — including responsible, effective use of firearms — and become fluent in Spanish.”


    Yes, it is important to know how to handle a pistol or rifle. My sons will choose what language they want to learn in high school. They have several options.

    
“I’ll wager that your children won’t be any more prepared for the country as it is and as it is becoming, nor more equipped to do their part to take back what we can of this great land and its culture.”

    

My sons will be well-prepared for the future. Regarding “taking back what they can”, no, I don’t share that sentiment. More like “giving back to their community” through public service and treating people regardless of race or ethnic or sexual orientation with respect and dignity.

    “For one thing, do you think it includes Muslims and Africans and others who have made clear their violent hatred towards us and our way of life?”


    Civilized people includes American citizens of Muslim and African descent who embrace American culture or are working toward embracing American culture.

    
“Do you think it includes people who come to this country and promptly go on the welfare dole at our expense?”

    I would have to see hard numbers regarding how many immigrants are automatically “on the dole” and how many are gainfully employed by small business owners and large companies.

    “Do you think it includes people who have children by multiple women without marrying and supporting any of them?”

    No.

    “Do you think it includes people who espouse the physical abuse of their wives and the forced or “arranged” marriage of young girls to men?”

    Not my place to say. Their cultural values where they reside. Certainly if such people come to our country, it’s our customs and our rules they have to abide by.

    “Do you think “civilized people” includes people who tattoo their faces or their entire bodies like Incan / Mayan savages? I doubt you do.”

    I was taught that the content of a person’s character is most important. If a person is all “tatted up”, and they are kind and considerate, that is what counts.

    “Also, are you under the impression that a movement comprised only of all-white people — without some “civilized”, English-speaking, America-loving people of other races — will be enough to prevail in the coming years?”



    You would have to talk to Jared Taylor and his ilk about that movement.

    “Do you honestly expect that a **majority-Muslim or majority-African city** is going to be fair and respect the rights, interests, and culture of white Americans? Give our children a fair chance in hiring, promotion, and firing? Leave our children safe and unafraid on the streets, in the schools, and in our homes? “Allow” our children to attend political rallies without physically attacked and threatened (see 2016 prez election already)? “Allow” us to attend church and prosyletize our religion if we so choose?” Same question about a majority-Mexican and overwhelmingly majority-nonwhite California and Texas.”


    Yes to all questions. I’m not falling for the Chicken Little Scenario, or the references to South Africa. Perhaps you underestimate the human condition, behavioral conduct, and aspirations of non-whites.

    “YOU may be a fairminded person who truly believes that our homeland is for all “Americans”, but you should know by now that tens of millions of non-white people who live right here in the USA do not feel that way about the USA and about white people. And they are prepared to take extreme action against us in service of their prejudice and hatred.”

    They may harbor certain hostilities, but it may not be necessarily racially motivated, and they may not be inclined to “stick it to Whitey” for past mistreatment.

    “Many of us show clearly every day that our first and most heartfelt loyalty is to our NATION and its traditional culture and mores, not our deracinated balkanizing “country” and certainly not the bloated gang of alien thugs called “our” government. “Why are you blind to this phenomenon?””



    Our nation that consists of a wide range of people from all continents. Americans are mutts. Certainly, there are undeniable elements of small-scale balkanization in the United States, but I’ll wait for the movie to come out regarding this impending race war and partition within the next twenty years. That is a broken record.

    “By the way, if it’s not important for America to remain primarily white in its population and culture, do you live in a majority-black or majority-Mexican neighborhood? If not, is it because you are a deplorable bigot? (and a hypocrite, to boot)?”

    

I live in a mixed, middle-class neighborhood. Middle-class whites, blacks, Asians, and Hispanics share the same mindset when it comes to social rank—we live far away from people who do not share our lifestyles and our work ethic. It doesn’t mean my neighbors and I will “shun” lower class people on the street or in the mall or at a school, it just means like is attracted to like from an economic standpoint.

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  51. Corvinus says:
    @RadicalCenter
    Let's amend Jason's comment to "women who remain single well into their adulthood are unusually easily confused and led in the wrong direction, and DISPROPORTIONATELY pose a danger to a healthy, strong, cohesive, proud, sustainable society." Can you go for that proposition?

    “Let’s amend Jason’s comment to “women who remain single well into their adulthood are unusually easily confused and led in the wrong direction, and DISPROPORTIONATELY pose a danger to a healthy, strong, cohesive, proud, sustainable society.” Can you go for that proposition?”

    No, I cannot go for this proposition, because one assumes that women lack agency and that men not prone to the same conditions.

    It should read “Men and women who remain single well into their adulthood may have been led in the wrong direction during their upbringing, and could pose a danger to a healthy, strong, cohesive, proud, sustainable society depending on the extent and nature of each individual’s immoral and illegal conduct.”

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  52. @John Gruskos
    Voting nationalist isn't a radical life changing experience like converting to Christianity, so I don't think the East-Asian missionary analogy provides insight.

    In Switzerland, various nationalist referendums won majority support. (Against construction of minarets, Against mass immigration). Nationalism is absolutely dominant in the Visegrad nations. Putin's semi-nationalism dominates the polls in Russia. With the upset victories of Brat and Trump, nationalism is beginning to awaken in America.

    If there is a nationalist ceiling in most of western Europe, we need to think about why the ceiling exists and figure out how to break it.

    Big donors, Wall Street, Hollywood, the main stream media, academia's humanities and social science departments, PC enforcers such as the SPLC and the ADL, "antifascist" bullies, and even the US State Department all work tirelessly to suppress nationalism in European-Christian derived nations.

    The President of the United States has an immense ability to weaken or co-opt all of these hostile power nodes.

    If America and the other nations which constitute European-Christian civilization descend into oblivion, it will be for one reason and one reason only: because President-Elect Donald Trump and his closest advisors decided to pivot away from his nationalist campaign rhetoric.

    If America and the other nations which constitute European-Christian civilization descend into oblivion, it will be for one reason and one reason only: because President-Elect Donald Trump and his closest advisors decided to pivot away from his nationalist campaign rhetoric.

    Agreed. Much hinges on our scary situation at present. At least we have some hope, despite the colossal forces of reaction and considerable question about the white knight himself.

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    I'm not sure about this. It's the ambience that produces the people.

    Trump couldn't have won any time over the last 30 years, so his win is just more evidence of the trend against Counter Cultural progressivism (CCP).

    Another indication is the lack of excitement around CCP. Ken Kesey and Haight-Ashbury reside mostly in the memories of pensioners.
  53. @RadicalCenter
    Well put.

    African-"americans" are already in effect a disorganized army terrorizing decent people, especially whites, day and night whenever they can.

    They claim blocks, then entire neighborhoods, then entire towns, where they are allowed to, by the sheer dint of numbers and relentless brutality and harassment.

    With BLM and other Soros-funded thug groups on the rise, Africans are getting more confident, more aggressive and belligerent than ever before. Look for them to be used as shock troops to threaten, beat, and intimidate white and Asian people away from polling places on a regular basis.

    Decent people of all other backgrounds ought to fight back, and probably will. This, however, will lead to terrible widespread violence which none of us should wish for. Then again, the violence is already here; it's just a question of whether more-civilized people are going to win or the savages.

    As the other commenter noted, South Africa may well be our future, made even more vibrant by ‘healthy’ doses of asians and hispanics.

    The white people I know would welcome this, almost to a man/woman. After a few decades of MSM propaganda, they think it’s better than we deserve.

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    South African ex-pats would tell you horror stories about their former land. Many resettled in the US, including some neighbors who have helped many others resettle. They are all legal immigrants grants and upstanding citizens, as one would expect from the British connection.
  54. @RadicalCenter
    One big part of the problem is the large and growing number of white women who never have children. They don't have their own children to protect and worry about, and thus we can't fully appeal to their natural maternal instinct and drive to protect children from aggressors.

    The same is typically true of homosexual men. They almost never have children of their own and so we cannot appeal to their common sense and protective instincts as fellow parents.

    We will need a very high percentage of support and involvement from white people who have children -- and some meaningful support from decent, English-speaking, civilized people of other backgrounds who have children -- in order to take back our country and begin restoring it.

    I think it can be done!

    FWIW, I know single women and gay men who are most assuredly opposed to the third-world flood currently wrecking America. Granted, they’re likely distinct minorities in their respective groups, but I doubt there’s any benefit to alienating them right off the bat.

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    You are right there. Just observing what we experience more often than not, and what risks are disproportionately incurred, and societal harm caused, by people, especially women, when their lives are drifting along without proper purpose, without a husband or wife, and without the joy and sacrifice and maturing/rounding effect of a raising one's own family and doing the hard glorious work of perpetuating ones family and one's people. Long-term childless white men are detrimental to our culture and our nation's future, and long-term childless white WOMEN for whatever reasons go gen farther left authoritarian, self-hating, and immigration-invasionist than men do, faster.

    Agree with you that I'll take support and likemindedness where we can find it, generally, at the voting booth or in day to day culture. One of my two closer friends in LA is, in fact, an Indio Mexican-American -- and HE really is American in outlook and loyalty -- who voted for TRUMP. Of course, he speaks fluent English and his parents came here legally. (Though he'd tell you himself that he is not necessarily typical in either respect in his part of the city or even in this city generally, unfortunately.)

  55. @RadicalCenter
    I don't think it's a stupid sentiment, contra "Anon", but he's right about demographics to the East.

    Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians, Poles, etc., simply don't have enough children to be a sufficiently strong force to preserve something resembling our civilization.

    Let's hope that the governments of those countries take stronger steps to incentivize their native Slavic people to have more children, many more children, ASAP. Poland likely "cannot" do so without leaving the EU, which they had better do if they wish to survive Europe's accelerating surrender to Muslim and African colonization & domination.

    have more children, many more children, ASAP

    I’m always seeing this exhortation among alt-right types. But caucasians cannot out-reproduce the mud peoples. And even if we could, the world is already too crowded.

    The way out is not to overproduce ourselves but to force the mud peoples to limit their own out-of-control fecundity, and the way to do that is to stop enabling it. How do we enable it? Among other things, by helping to finance it and by accepting tens of millions of their excess population.

    There’s a lot we could do, by simply not doing what we’re now doing. Apologies to Demosthenes.

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    You are absolutely right about the need to first stop subsidizing and incentivizing reproduction among Africans and other alien or hostile or poorly-assimilable populations in the USA and the west generally.

    But I maintain that we do both that AND increase our own fertility and family formation. We need to use whatever means are at our disposal to survive and thrive.

    The world is indeed far too crowded, but the real environmentally damaging, culturally and psychologically warping super-overcrowding is in China, India, Philippines, and limited parts of the USA where it is mostly caused by uncontrolled third world immigration and unduly high subsidized Mexican and African American birthrates.

    The USA overall or typically is not overcrowded, and would not be even if white Americans substantially increased their TFR and family formation while others were induced to lower theirs or in the case of illegal aliens be removed from the country.
    , @Anonym
    I think we can do both, if one can personally afford to have more children, consider it a duty.
  56. @RadicalCenter
    Since the UK is subsidizing every type of Christian-hating, woman-beating, welfare-abusing backwards muslim and African savage who comes along, I suppose it's not terrible that some Slavs get something from the system before it collapses.

    Are there any stats, though, on Slavic immigrants to the UK relying on welfare more than native Britons?

    For my part, I can offer no stats but it’s certainly been my impression that Brits believe it to be true. Sort of hard for us Yanks & Rebs to comprehend, since we haven’t suffered a deluge of Slavs. And the Slavs I know are worlds apart from the third-world dross with which America is currently afflicted. But who knows how I’d feel if there were 50 million of them in my country?

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    I'll have to stop agreeing with all your comments, but again that's a reasonable take.
  57. Ivy says:
    @Kyle McKenna
    As the other commenter noted, South Africa may well be our future, made even more vibrant by 'healthy' doses of asians and hispanics.

    The white people I know would welcome this, almost to a man/woman. After a few decades of MSM propaganda, they think it's better than we deserve.

    South African ex-pats would tell you horror stories about their former land. Many resettled in the US, including some neighbors who have helped many others resettle. They are all legal immigrants grants and upstanding citizens, as one would expect from the British connection.

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  58. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    One of the problems of nationalism for the elites is that it is too mediocritist.

    In the globo age of professionalism and expertise, the talented and powerful seek out the best.
    And the best isn’t contained in any one nation. If anything, most people of any nation range from above-average to average to below-average. Nothing special. While some groups may generally be more talented than other groups, even the most talented group isn’t filled with geniuses. Anglos are smart people, but most Anglos are just average. Even if Anglo average is above-average compared to other peoples, it’s nothing really special.

    In our age of global competition, the super-skilled in many areas — finance, biology, medicine, engineering, computers, entertainment, astronomy, physics, chemistry, etc — have no time for anything but dog-eat-dog competition in their fields. And that means total concentration on the very best in their fields. Since there is no guarantee that the BEST people will be of their own kind, they attract and end up working with the BEST of other races and cultures. They are obsessed with working with the best and superior talent. Companies seek the best and brightest from the world. Research labs want the best. They prefer smart foreign talent to dumb national talent. It’s like sports teams recruit the best regardless of color since a team that only recruited whites will lose to teams with faster blacks.

    So, even though nationalism is often associated with ‘supremacism’, Professionalism is also supremacist and elitist in its own way. Even though meritocracy is open to all peoples, it only favors the talented among the various groups and excludes everyone else. It is the supremacism of raw talent.
    Since the super-talented and smart are in it to win, win, win & defeat the competition and since their edge is based on raw talent regardless of race or nationality, there is little incentive or time for the elites of various fields to identify with or feel much concern for the hoi polloi of their own kind.
    In our professional-centrist world, the elites identify mainly with talent and ability.
    To them, nationalism means a burden and a drag requiring them to identify more with th eless talented of their own kind than with the best and most talented from all over the world. It’s like Yao Ming was pissed when he had to go back to play for the National Team. In the NBA, he was playing with the very best. But when he had to play for the National Team, he griped that he was playing with mediocre Chinese players. He did it out of nationalism, but he found his true calling and excitement in the NBA, the elite basketball organization. For him, nationalism meant loyalty to mediocrity whereas globalism meant his elevation to the very top of the sport.

    So, even though the elites attack nationalism as a ‘supremacist’ and ‘exclusive’ ideology, they disdain it for its populist-mediocritism and intra-inclusionism.
    Elites prefer inter-inclusionism over intra-inclusionism. Intra-inclusionism means the elites should favor and ‘include’ their own kind over others EVEN IF the national talent isn’t as good as foreign talent. Intra-inclusion is exclusive of foreign talent, even the best.
    But then, inter-inclusion, while inclusive of the best of foreign talent, is often exclusive of national talent since it favors best foreign talent over inferior national talent. Either way, there is some kind of inclusion and exclusion.

    As Derbyhshire wrote, inter-inclusion can be damaging not only to nationalism of the host nation but to other nations from which the talent is taken. When West attracts the best of non-western talent, non-West suffers brain drain. It incentivizes the smart people of the Non-West to dream of coming to the West than using their talent to fix and build their own nations. Also, when the best of non-west come to work in the West, they lose connection to their own nations, cultures, and identities.

    In the end, the Zionist model is the only good one for all nations. Israel is open to working with talent from all over the world, BUT the main priority of Israel as a national and political entity is to serve the identity and interests of ALL Jews first and foremost whether smart, average, or dumb. While Israel does goes for some degree of inter-inclusion, its priority is still intra-inclusion in social institutions, culture, and politics.

    It’s fitting that the Jewish story begins with Abraham. Though Moses later presented the laws and David later inspired as political leader, the Jewish people exist in the first place because of the idea of family ties, blood ties, and ethnic inheritance that goes back to the Covenant of the pud before God. Before there is the laws and politics, there must be ethnos of the pud and poon before the Lord. And that element, more than the laws of Moses or political skills of David, is the real basis of Jewish identity that has survived for 3,500 yrs.
    Laws are abstract, and indeed the laws of Moses came to be adopted by non-Jews as well. And even though kingdoms are grand, political systems are come and go, as David’s heirs soon found out. But the ethnic lineage of a people must be maintained if a culture and history are to survive through space and time.

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    In the end, the Zionist model is the only good one for all nations. Israel is open to working with talent from all over the world, BUT the main priority of Israel as a national and political entity is to serve the identity and interests of ALL Jews first and foremost whether smart, average, or dumb.
     
    You might be right, but Jhites (Jewish Whites) with American citizenship running the same ALL Jews first in the US is clearly harmful to the American nation.
  59. @Kyle McKenna
    FWIW, I know single women and gay men who are most assuredly opposed to the third-world flood currently wrecking America. Granted, they're likely distinct minorities in their respective groups, but I doubt there's any benefit to alienating them right off the bat.

    You are right there. Just observing what we experience more often than not, and what risks are disproportionately incurred, and societal harm caused, by people, especially women, when their lives are drifting along without proper purpose, without a husband or wife, and without the joy and sacrifice and maturing/rounding effect of a raising one’s own family and doing the hard glorious work of perpetuating ones family and one’s people. Long-term childless white men are detrimental to our culture and our nation’s future, and long-term childless white WOMEN for whatever reasons go gen farther left authoritarian, self-hating, and immigration-invasionist than men do, faster.

    Agree with you that I’ll take support and likemindedness where we can find it, generally, at the voting booth or in day to day culture. One of my two closer friends in LA is, in fact, an Indio Mexican-American — and HE really is American in outlook and loyalty — who voted for TRUMP. Of course, he speaks fluent English and his parents came here legally. (Though he’d tell you himself that he is not necessarily typical in either respect in his part of the city or even in this city generally, unfortunately.)

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  60. @Kyle McKenna

    have more children, many more children, ASAP
     
    I'm always seeing this exhortation among alt-right types. But caucasians cannot out-reproduce the mud peoples. And even if we could, the world is already too crowded.

    The way out is not to overproduce ourselves but to force the mud peoples to limit their own out-of-control fecundity, and the way to do that is to stop enabling it. How do we enable it? Among other things, by helping to finance it and by accepting tens of millions of their excess population.

    There's a lot we could do, by simply not doing what we're now doing. Apologies to Demosthenes.

    You are absolutely right about the need to first stop subsidizing and incentivizing reproduction among Africans and other alien or hostile or poorly-assimilable populations in the USA and the west generally.

    But I maintain that we do both that AND increase our own fertility and family formation. We need to use whatever means are at our disposal to survive and thrive.

    The world is indeed far too crowded, but the real environmentally damaging, culturally and psychologically warping super-overcrowding is in China, India, Philippines, and limited parts of the USA where it is mostly caused by uncontrolled third world immigration and unduly high subsidized Mexican and African American birthrates.

    The USA overall or typically is not overcrowded, and would not be even if white Americans substantially increased their TFR and family formation while others were induced to lower theirs or in the case of illegal aliens be removed from the country.

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  61. @Kyle McKenna
    For my part, I can offer no stats but it's certainly been my impression that Brits believe it to be true. Sort of hard for us Yanks & Rebs to comprehend, since we haven't suffered a deluge of Slavs. And the Slavs I know are worlds apart from the third-world dross with which America is currently afflicted. But who knows how I'd feel if there were 50 million of them in my country?

    I’ll have to stop agreeing with all your comments, but again that’s a reasonable take.

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  62. dfordoom says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter
    I don't think it's a stupid sentiment, contra "Anon", but he's right about demographics to the East.

    Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians, Poles, etc., simply don't have enough children to be a sufficiently strong force to preserve something resembling our civilization.

    Let's hope that the governments of those countries take stronger steps to incentivize their native Slavic people to have more children, many more children, ASAP. Poland likely "cannot" do so without leaving the EU, which they had better do if they wish to survive Europe's accelerating surrender to Muslim and African colonization & domination.

    Let’s hope that the governments of those countries take stronger steps to incentivize their native Slavic people to have more children, many more children, ASAP.

    The only way to do that is to roll back the feminist madness. Eliminate all those pretend jobs that women do, like social workers and similar nonsense. Get married women out of the workforce. Eliminate silly Mickey Mouse degrees that women love. Make sure men earn enough to support a family on one wage.

    I don’t see it happening. The trouble is that the things that need to be done are simple, but in practice almost impossible.

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  63. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Anonym
    Most of the Euro nationalist parties already do this, they are quite socialist.

    Most of the Euro nationalist parties already do this, they are quite socialist.

    True, but they still get labelled as “far right.”

    The question is, is nationalism simply not electorally appealing enough to attract more than 20% of voters, or is it the dreaded perceived connection with the right?

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    The question is, is nationalism simply not electorally appealing enough to attract more than 20% of voters, or is it the dreaded perceived connection with the right?

    Well, there has been no immediate existential threat thus far. Enoch Powell was right, but too many SD ahead of the curve. Here we are half a century later and we are being outbred in our own countries, and Sweden, for my entire lifetime the go-to country for lefties to use as a model is now the rape capital of Europe. We are at the do or die stage.

    In Trump and Brexit we have the first broken ceiling. More will follow. Naturally as can be expected, whites see the problem and are networking across borders. In comments sections a pro-white world view has emerged and it is practically impossible to tell the difference between the views of each white nationality except local knowledge, grammar, vocab etc.
  64. Miro23 says:
    @Kyle McKenna

    If America and the other nations which constitute European-Christian civilization descend into oblivion, it will be for one reason and one reason only: because President-Elect Donald Trump and his closest advisors decided to pivot away from his nationalist campaign rhetoric.
     
    Agreed. Much hinges on our scary situation at present. At least we have some hope, despite the colossal forces of reaction and considerable question about the white knight himself.

    I’m not sure about this. It’s the ambience that produces the people.

    Trump couldn’t have won any time over the last 30 years, so his win is just more evidence of the trend against Counter Cultural progressivism (CCP).

    Another indication is the lack of excitement around CCP. Ken Kesey and Haight-Ashbury reside mostly in the memories of pensioners.

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  65. Miro23 says:
    @Anon
    One of the problems of nationalism for the elites is that it is too mediocritist.

    In the globo age of professionalism and expertise, the talented and powerful seek out the best.
    And the best isn't contained in any one nation. If anything, most people of any nation range from above-average to average to below-average. Nothing special. While some groups may generally be more talented than other groups, even the most talented group isn't filled with geniuses. Anglos are smart people, but most Anglos are just average. Even if Anglo average is above-average compared to other peoples, it's nothing really special.

    In our age of global competition, the super-skilled in many areas -- finance, biology, medicine, engineering, computers, entertainment, astronomy, physics, chemistry, etc -- have no time for anything but dog-eat-dog competition in their fields. And that means total concentration on the very best in their fields. Since there is no guarantee that the BEST people will be of their own kind, they attract and end up working with the BEST of other races and cultures. They are obsessed with working with the best and superior talent. Companies seek the best and brightest from the world. Research labs want the best. They prefer smart foreign talent to dumb national talent. It's like sports teams recruit the best regardless of color since a team that only recruited whites will lose to teams with faster blacks.

    So, even though nationalism is often associated with 'supremacism', Professionalism is also supremacist and elitist in its own way. Even though meritocracy is open to all peoples, it only favors the talented among the various groups and excludes everyone else. It is the supremacism of raw talent.
    Since the super-talented and smart are in it to win, win, win & defeat the competition and since their edge is based on raw talent regardless of race or nationality, there is little incentive or time for the elites of various fields to identify with or feel much concern for the hoi polloi of their own kind.
    In our professional-centrist world, the elites identify mainly with talent and ability.
    To them, nationalism means a burden and a drag requiring them to identify more with th eless talented of their own kind than with the best and most talented from all over the world. It's like Yao Ming was pissed when he had to go back to play for the National Team. In the NBA, he was playing with the very best. But when he had to play for the National Team, he griped that he was playing with mediocre Chinese players. He did it out of nationalism, but he found his true calling and excitement in the NBA, the elite basketball organization. For him, nationalism meant loyalty to mediocrity whereas globalism meant his elevation to the very top of the sport.

    So, even though the elites attack nationalism as a 'supremacist' and 'exclusive' ideology, they disdain it for its populist-mediocritism and intra-inclusionism.
    Elites prefer inter-inclusionism over intra-inclusionism. Intra-inclusionism means the elites should favor and 'include' their own kind over others EVEN IF the national talent isn't as good as foreign talent. Intra-inclusion is exclusive of foreign talent, even the best.
    But then, inter-inclusion, while inclusive of the best of foreign talent, is often exclusive of national talent since it favors best foreign talent over inferior national talent. Either way, there is some kind of inclusion and exclusion.

    As Derbyhshire wrote, inter-inclusion can be damaging not only to nationalism of the host nation but to other nations from which the talent is taken. When West attracts the best of non-western talent, non-West suffers brain drain. It incentivizes the smart people of the Non-West to dream of coming to the West than using their talent to fix and build their own nations. Also, when the best of non-west come to work in the West, they lose connection to their own nations, cultures, and identities.

    In the end, the Zionist model is the only good one for all nations. Israel is open to working with talent from all over the world, BUT the main priority of Israel as a national and political entity is to serve the identity and interests of ALL Jews first and foremost whether smart, average, or dumb. While Israel does goes for some degree of inter-inclusion, its priority is still intra-inclusion in social institutions, culture, and politics.

    It's fitting that the Jewish story begins with Abraham. Though Moses later presented the laws and David later inspired as political leader, the Jewish people exist in the first place because of the idea of family ties, blood ties, and ethnic inheritance that goes back to the Covenant of the pud before God. Before there is the laws and politics, there must be ethnos of the pud and poon before the Lord. And that element, more than the laws of Moses or political skills of David, is the real basis of Jewish identity that has survived for 3,500 yrs.
    Laws are abstract, and indeed the laws of Moses came to be adopted by non-Jews as well. And even though kingdoms are grand, political systems are come and go, as David's heirs soon found out. But the ethnic lineage of a people must be maintained if a culture and history are to survive through space and time.

    In the end, the Zionist model is the only good one for all nations. Israel is open to working with talent from all over the world, BUT the main priority of Israel as a national and political entity is to serve the identity and interests of ALL Jews first and foremost whether smart, average, or dumb.

    You might be right, but Jhites (Jewish Whites) with American citizenship running the same ALL Jews first in the US is clearly harmful to the American nation.

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    We need to understand that Jewish Power is founded on the sacralization of the pud and poon, the union of seed and egg to keep the blood flowing through the ages.

    Abraham was no great thinker or leader. It was Moses who later set down the law. It was David and his son Solomon who later rose to great political heights.

    But even before there was the law, even before there was political power, there was the power of the idea of ethnos. But what made it special was that the Jewish ethnos wasn't just another bloodline but a bloodline blessed by God via Abraham's pud. Thus, ethnos was turned from a biological/familial reality to a holy genetic mission.

    This is why all peoples should form their own Covenant that sanctifies the union of their pud and poon. Before the power, there was the law, but before the law, there was the people, and this people began as a family of man flowing from a particular pair of pud and poon. The genius of Jews was that they sanctified their pair of pud and poon of origin.

    So, identity is really about genitality fused with spirituality.

    This is why Yukio Mishima thought the Emperor was so important to Japanese identity. He didn't believe in the divinity of the Emperor, but it was only the myth of the Emperor that tied the Japanese race/people to their identity as a collective family with mythic & sacred origin.

    After all, capitalism or democracy can belong to any people. But Japaneseness can only belong to Japanese people. But how? Through the emperor bloodline wit him as mythic father figure of all Japanese.

  66. @RadicalCenter
    Since the UK is subsidizing every type of Christian-hating, woman-beating, welfare-abusing backwards muslim and African savage who comes along, I suppose it's not terrible that some Slavs get something from the system before it collapses.

    Are there any stats, though, on Slavic immigrants to the UK relying on welfare more than native Britons?

    The trick is to get on imbecile (former Chancellor then PM) Gordon Brown’s accursed “Tax Credits” scheme, which gives parents (not singletons, who can go and shift for themselves) a substantial no-hard-questions-asked cash income, well in excess of anything they could earn by their own efforts. I can’t recall what it is, but it’s more than mere waged labour could rake in.

    More kids, more dosh, simples. Bonus for any sort of “disability” in the nippers. Maybe a free people-carrier (automatic, of course).
    Corporates love it, means they can pay minimum wage on zero-hours contracts, and the lower tax cattle subsidize them. All for 16 hrs a week, even working at some notional, self-certified form of self-employment, e.g. dog-walker, hair extensions manager, child minder (a.k.a. single mothers “taking in each others’ washing”). Yes, it’s ludicrous. So what? Nobody’s “unemployed” innit.

    The whole country’s at it, Brits (particularly in the abandoned burnt-over districts/rustbelt, oop north in Brexit land), EEs, PIIGS (native) refugees from Eurozone-induced terminal mass unemployment, jihadis, gypsies. It’s the main migrant magnet. The Tories daren’t touch it as it would cause a Spain-like unemployment crisis, and their tax-dodging business cronies would be mightily displeased with them. The perfect poisoned chalice, left to them by NuLaba.

    It will just go on and on. Until it can’t. Tears before bedtime then.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    We have something similar for welfare moms in America. It's part of Clinton's 1990 joke of welfare reform. The idea was welfare to work. All the welfare moms would be forced to go back to work at part time low wage jobs. This at a time when illegal Hispanics were being brought in by the millions to work in those low wages jobs which didn't make much sense.
    But low wages can't support both a family and a child minder/ baby sitter.
    So welfare mins were give $800.00 per month per child for child minders. Even the Clibton democrats weren't dumb enough to give the $800.00 per kid per month directly to the welfare mins. The money went directly to the baby sitters

    So the welfare mins just started baby sitting for each other. It's turned into one of the biggest welfare scans in the country
    The welfare moms don't actually have to go to work to get the child minder money They can sign up for a class at the local high school or community college (they don't have to actually attend class) or "look for work" or go to a class at one of our numerous social service agencies about how to apply for a job.
    Numerous life long disabilities have been discovered since the welfare reform act as well.
    I don't know how it is in the UK, but the standards for welfare and disability for Whites is much much higher than they are for illegal Hispanics and blacks. Whites have go through numerous applications and appeals while illegal aliens as long as they are not White get the benefits immediately
  67. Righto, here you go. Numbers and facts and opinions and stuff from a 30-second scratch around.
    Just go on any Brit pol. or econ. forum and search “Family Tax Credits”. Stand well back, and wear gumboots for when the whingeing vomits forth.

    http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/202644-islamification-of-europe/&do=findComment&comment=1103065845

    http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/226488-benefits-savings/&do=findComment&comment=1103084541

    “Durham Born” knows what he’s talking about, longterm insider to the Welfare Beast That Ate Britain, not just a random forum know-it-all like most of the rest of ‘em there.

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  68. No sentence has been announced, and Wilders has said he’ll appeal.

    Sentence was announced – the judge stated that conviction was considered punishment enough. If he’d held up a placard emblazoned, SHOW TRIAL, he couldn’t have been clearer.

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  69. Here’s one for you, Derb, purchased not half-an-hour ago from this very boutique.
    Cobblers in da house!

    http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/228185-what-is-the-economic-case-for-freedom-of-movement/&do=findComment&comment=1103155794

    (More moaning about the real cancer in British economic life, Tax Credits and Allied Non-Contrib. Benefits for All and Sundry, up the page. Every dosser in Europe comes here, because there’s nowhere else to go).

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  70. Anonym says:
    @dfordoom

    Most of the Euro nationalist parties already do this, they are quite socialist.
     
    True, but they still get labelled as "far right."

    The question is, is nationalism simply not electorally appealing enough to attract more than 20% of voters, or is it the dreaded perceived connection with the right?

    The question is, is nationalism simply not electorally appealing enough to attract more than 20% of voters, or is it the dreaded perceived connection with the right?

    Well, there has been no immediate existential threat thus far. Enoch Powell was right, but too many SD ahead of the curve. Here we are half a century later and we are being outbred in our own countries, and Sweden, for my entire lifetime the go-to country for lefties to use as a model is now the rape capital of Europe. We are at the do or die stage.

    In Trump and Brexit we have the first broken ceiling. More will follow. Naturally as can be expected, whites see the problem and are networking across borders. In comments sections a pro-white world view has emerged and it is practically impossible to tell the difference between the views of each white nationality except local knowledge, grammar, vocab etc.

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  71. Anonym says:
    @Kyle McKenna

    have more children, many more children, ASAP
     
    I'm always seeing this exhortation among alt-right types. But caucasians cannot out-reproduce the mud peoples. And even if we could, the world is already too crowded.

    The way out is not to overproduce ourselves but to force the mud peoples to limit their own out-of-control fecundity, and the way to do that is to stop enabling it. How do we enable it? Among other things, by helping to finance it and by accepting tens of millions of their excess population.

    There's a lot we could do, by simply not doing what we're now doing. Apologies to Demosthenes.

    I think we can do both, if one can personally afford to have more children, consider it a duty.

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  72. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Miro23

    In the end, the Zionist model is the only good one for all nations. Israel is open to working with talent from all over the world, BUT the main priority of Israel as a national and political entity is to serve the identity and interests of ALL Jews first and foremost whether smart, average, or dumb.
     
    You might be right, but Jhites (Jewish Whites) with American citizenship running the same ALL Jews first in the US is clearly harmful to the American nation.

    We need to understand that Jewish Power is founded on the sacralization of the pud and poon, the union of seed and egg to keep the blood flowing through the ages.

    Abraham was no great thinker or leader. It was Moses who later set down the law. It was David and his son Solomon who later rose to great political heights.

    But even before there was the law, even before there was political power, there was the power of the idea of ethnos. But what made it special was that the Jewish ethnos wasn’t just another bloodline but a bloodline blessed by God via Abraham’s pud. Thus, ethnos was turned from a biological/familial reality to a holy genetic mission.

    This is why all peoples should form their own Covenant that sanctifies the union of their pud and poon. Before the power, there was the law, but before the law, there was the people, and this people began as a family of man flowing from a particular pair of pud and poon. The genius of Jews was that they sanctified their pair of pud and poon of origin.

    So, identity is really about genitality fused with spirituality.

    This is why Yukio Mishima thought the Emperor was so important to Japanese identity. He didn’t believe in the divinity of the Emperor, but it was only the myth of the Emperor that tied the Japanese race/people to their identity as a collective family with mythic & sacred origin.

    After all, capitalism or democracy can belong to any people. But Japaneseness can only belong to Japanese people. But how? Through the emperor bloodline wit him as mythic father figure of all Japanese.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava

    He didn’t believe in the divinity of the Emperor
     
    He wrote an essay attacking the Emperor's disavowal of divinity. It is well-known.

    You seem to have quite a thing for Mishima (his pen name, not his real name).

    Since you never stop ranting about 'homo's', and you know that Mishima was one, it is a little mystifying.

    On a lighter note, have you seen Schraeder's Mishima, a Life in Four Parts?

    It is a masterpiece. It was banned in Japan for years, maybe still is. His wife had good connections with the ruling party.

    One of his gay lovers (a drag queen) is not infrequently on TV, even now.

    His main same-sex lover passed away, but his book on it was blocked through court action by Mishima's children, although tne content is true, real correspondence.

    Think those are all great things, Priss?
  73. @Anon
    Stupid sentiment. We're all in this together, whether we want to admit it or not. The East is old and poor. If they had good demographics, you could make a case but they don't. They are depopulating.

    As for the general theory, IIRC 60% of all men in Austria voted for Hofer. Women voted 65% for VDB, so he won. In the end, men tend to be more radical than women and are more likely to be in vanguard movements that change the political direction. I'm more worried about America than I am about Europe.

    I just can’t get that worked up about declining birth rates (although I admire and respect Mark Steyn). Automation is going to take lots of jobs away in any event. Some of the population figures I’ve seen show Eastern Europe to be around 1950 population figures by mid-21st Century. I guess I missed that literature bemoaning the howling, unpopulated wastelands of 1950s Hungary and Poland. If you don’t have children and choose to replace yourselves with imported third-worlders, that’s another, much more dreadful, matter, but below replacement birth rates, without more, do not overly concern me.

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  74. ” .. choose to replace yourselves with imported third-worlders ..”
    Well that’s just it. Nobody I know, even the bleediest-hearted Guardian reader in an ethnic skirt, is “choosing” any of the migrant deluge, both EU and rubber-dinghy sort.
    Most people are somewhere on the “sullenly and quietly hostile” spectrum.
    It’s just going to be made to happen whether we like it or not, and we can’t vote our way out of it, as only candidates with the “correct” views will be offered up on the hustings. Anyone else gets “monstered” in the official media as either a goose-stepping nazi or dagger-wielding “Trotskyite”.
    Demolishing the sacred Welfare State, razing it to the ground utterly, although almost an act of self-harm, would put a stop to a lot of this “malicious social engineering by population replacement” (is there a handy German word for that? There is for most complicated abstractions.)

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  75. @Corvinus
    "European and American whites are looking at going down the path of whites in South Africa if they stick with democracy."

    Nothing better than a Fake News Story by author Chicken Little. What will happen is that western influenced structures in America will be transformed from within to reflect the will of the people as it always has been.

    "Nope, whites only hope is to start forming ethnic-based groups, charities, schools, etc. Nothing violent, nothing illegal. Just start creating a society within the greater multi-culti society. Use Jews as a template."

    American whites are capable of making their own racial decisions. Feel free to create your own white-based societies within the nation. Our homeland is for, by, and of Americans...not whites.

    "But for now, whites need to simply show some pride and start building bonds."

    Everyday white Americans demonstrate their devotion to their country. They have established business and cultural ties. Why you are blind to this phenomenon?

    “What will happen is that western influenced structures in America will be transformed from within to reflect the will of the people as it always has been.”

    You got that one right. Except, the will of the new people will be very different than the will of the founding stock. It will not be “western influenced.” Look at Africa. Look at the Middle East. Look at Mexico and South America. That’s what our structures will look like with the new population because that is “Who they are” as Obama likes to say.

    Cultures spring from people and reflect their genetic predispositions. You can no more ask a large African population to act white than you can to ask a dog to fly. The U.S. has no magic dirt that will turn low IQ, low future oriented Africans and mestizos into NW Europeans. NE Asians have the IQ, but may lack the inherit individualism of NW Europeans.

    Countries reflect their populations. Africans as a group will never succeed in replicating the West. Show me one successful black-run country in the world. And no South Africa doesn’t count because they have the British legacy and a significant white population. (But even South Africa will fail over time.)

    “American whites are capable of making their own racial decisions.”

    They certainly are capable but they are not allowed to implement those decisions. Do you really think that the majority of whites wouldn’t choose to live in white-only or white/Asian-only communities if it were legally and socially allowed?

    You fool yourself that whites want to live around blacks and Hispanics. Perhaps you are black and have white friends. And, indeed, they almost certainly do like you and like you as a neighbor. But they also understand the danger of blacks as a group and if they were forced to choose between a 100% white neighborhood and 50/50 white/black neighborhood, they would choose the white neighborhood every time.

    That’s why my vision of the future – one where whites who wish to live among their own – should be so terrifying for someone like yourself. If even a quarter or third of whites started to self-segregate, it would force the other whites to choose. And they would choose their own.

    “Feel free to create your own white-based societies within the nation. Our homeland is for, by, and of Americans…not whites.”

    Thank you for making my point. The term “American” has become pointless. If a club has no membership requirement, it’s not a club. Proposition nations fail. The word nation comes from the Latin word natio, meaning “people, tribe, kin, genus, class, flock.”

    Besides, what do you care if some deplorable whites want to live among their own. I don’t care if blacks want to live in their own communities or set up their own self-contained society. Good for them.

    “Everyday white Americans demonstrate their devotion to their country. They have established business and cultural ties. Why you are blind to this phenomenon?”

    Everyday white Americans have no choice but to live and work with blacks and browns. Give them a choice and see what they do. Judging from even liberal whites do when deciding where to live and where to send their kids to school, it’s not hard to figure out what whites would do.

    Face it. Blacks and mestizos are incapable – as a group – to managed a Western society. They just aren’t – and everybody knows it.

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    "You got that one right. Except, the will of the new people will be very different than the will of the founding stock. It will not be “western influenced.” Look at Africa. Look at the Middle East. Look at Mexico and South America. That’s what our structures will look like with the new population because that is “Who they are” as Obama likes to say."

    Right, it will be "American influenced". Remember, the founding stock has changed. That's what happens in nations over time. It's called progress.

    "Cultures spring from people and reflect their genetic predispositions."

    Nope. Cultures are the result of the intellect AND surrounding environment of the people who reside in a given area.

    "You can no more ask a large African population to act white than you can to ask a dog to fly. "

    It's not about "acting white", it's about acting like a human being.

    "The U.S. has no magic dirt that will turn low IQ, low future oriented Africans and mestizos into
    NW Europeans."

    You mean whites, not NW Europeans. You are leaving out Southern and Eastern Europeans. Why? Are they "low IQ, low future orientated"?

    "NE Asians have the IQ, but may lack the inherit individualism of NW Europeans."

    Inherent, not inherit. And individualism is a trait of humans.

    "Countries reflect their populations. Africans as a group will never succeed in replicating the West."

    Perhaps the West isn't all that it is cracked up to be. Remember, Europeans decimated Africa for their own individual and collective well-being.

    "Show me one successful black-run country in the world."

    Define "successful".

    "And no South Africa doesn’t count because they have the British legacy and a significant white population. (But even South Africa will fail over time.)"

    South Africa assuredly counts.

    "They certainly are capable but they are not allowed to implement those decisions."

    American whites are certainly able to put forth their own efforts to live exclusively amongst themselves.

    "Do you really think that the majority of whites wouldn’t choose to live in white-only or white/Asian-only communities if it were legally and socially allowed?"

    The majority of American whites clearly have spoken on this matter. They have erected the legal and social rules to live and procreate with non-whites.

    "You fool yourself that whites want to live around blacks and Hispanics."

    No, the only person tricking themselves is believing that most American whites act and think like yourself.

    "Perhaps you are black and have white friends. And, indeed, they almost certainly do like you and like you as a neighbor. But they also understand the danger of blacks as a group and if they were forced to choose between a 100% white neighborhood and 50/50 white/black neighborhood, they would choose the white neighborhood every time."

    Every time? How are you so absolutely certain?

    "That’s why my vision of the future – one where whites who wish to live among their own – should be so terrifying for someone like yourself. If even a quarter or third of whites started to self-segregate, it would force the other whites to choose. And they would choose their own."

    Congratulations on your False News Story.

    “Feel free to create your own white-based societies within the nation. Our homeland is for, by, and of Americans…not whites.”

    "The term “American” has become pointless. If a club has no membership requirement, it’s not a club. Proposition nations fail. The word nation comes from the Latin word natio, meaning “people, tribe, kin, genus, class, flock.”

    The Founding Fathers enabled its citizens to set the course for its future. Exactly why Congress was granted the liberty to set the criteria for citizenship. American means something. Ask de J. Hector St. John de Crèvecœur and Alexis de Tocqueville.

    "Everyday white Americans have no choice but to live and work with blacks and browns. Give them a choice and see what they do."

    That is observably false. Most white Americans have made their decision to live, work, play, and procreate with the blacks, and the browns, and the reds, and the yellows. Where have you been, boy?

    "Face it. Blacks and mestizos are incapable – as a group – to managed a Western society. They just aren’t – and everybody knows it."

    You keep deceiving yourself, dear.
  76. If 20 t0 30 percent is the ceiling for nationalist/populist parties in a representative democracy then maybe we need to do away with representative democracy and replace it with a more populist form of democracy. The Italian Five Star movement represents the first experiment in going beyond liberal representative democracy.

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  77. Che Guava says:
    @Anon

    three-way American-style tussle between the authority of this court, the authority of Parliament, and the authority of the Executive—which is to say dithering nonentity Theresa May and her cabinet.
     
    Isn't the Crown the executive?

    Not since the Magna Carta.

    I notice that on Britain leaving the EU, since the vote was not convenient for them, there has been some talk about the Prime Minister and cabinet being the ‘executive branch’ among the members of the neoliberal new class.

    The Blair creature was perhaps the worst on the point of acting as the leader of an ‘executive branch’ in recent years.

    Then again, how far to track it back?

    I would place it at Churchill’s first round as PM and his wartime cabinets, but others may make a case for an earlier origin.

    It is interesting to me that both England/Wales/N. Ireland and Scotland *do* have written constitutions, the Bill of Rights (of 1689, if I recall correctly, and the very similar document in Scotland) were major inspirations for the US constitution.

    Even words and phrases are similar.

    Lawyers like to pretend that those two documents don’t exist. So they made the fiction of the ‘unwritten constitution’, even worse than the idea of the ‘living constitution’ in the US.

    AFAIK, the ‘Supreme Court’ of England/Wales/N. Ireland, Scotland always had a separate legal system, is just the Law Lords dressed up in a new way, after the Blair creature appointed them and a huge number of others to Lordships to thank them for all the money they’d thrown in to sustain his rule.

    Mr. Derb,

    Always appreciate your articles, I am not the *complete* expert on everything above, far from, hope you are to reading it, none are anti, but I think, from my reading on this, more relevant than almost all others on the thread.

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  78. Art says:

    Perhaps the nationalist parties over there are doomed never to get above thirty percent support—and so never to get power.

    Who controls the media in these countries that refuse to vote for their own well being as a sovereign nation and culture – who is shaming them into voting against themselves?

    Hmm – who would do that?

    Peace — Art

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  79. Alden says:
    @Anon

    three-way American-style tussle between the authority of this court, the authority of Parliament, and the authority of the Executive—which is to say dithering nonentity Theresa May and her cabinet.
     
    Isn't the Crown the executive?

    The “crown” has no power and does nothing. The government employees and the prime minister are the executive

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  80. Alden says:
    @Richard S
    The crown is sovereign. The courts are "royal", the government is HM. All the pre-19th century levers of powers in fact. The armed forces, the church, the prison system, customs and revenue etc etc are all headed, in principle, by the monarch.

    You are wrong about that. But if it were true that the sovereign actually was in charge of the government prime minister and the various cabinet departments: then just what has the sovereign been doing since 1948 ro save the native British people from drowning in black and brown Muslim immigrants?

    You’re not English are you?

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  81. Alden says:
    @RadicalCenter
    Do you honestly expect that a majority-Muslim or majority-African city is going to be fair and respect the rights, interests, and culture of white Americans? Give our children a fair chance in hiring, promotion, and firing? Leave our children safe and unafraid on the streets, in the schools, and in our homes? "Allow" our children to attend political rallies without physically attacked and threatened (see 2016 prez election already)? "Allow" us to attend church and prosyletize our religion if we so choose?

    Same question about a majority-Mexican and overwhelmingly majority-nonwhite California and Texas.

    YOU may be a fairminded person who truly believes that our homeland is for all "Americans", but you should know by now that tens of millions of non-white people who live right here in the USA do not feel that way about the USA and about white people. And they are prepared to take extreme action against us in service of their prejudice and hatred.

    Whites have been greatly dis advantaged in hiring promotion firing and college admissions since 1968 when the affirmative action civil rights law was passed. Just 2 Supreme Court decisions in the 1970s, Griggs vs Duke Power and Kaiser vs Weber made extreme affirmative action the law of the land. Numerous federal, state, county and city agencies enforce the affirmative action laws.

    It’s not individual actions of blacks and Mexicans, it’s laws and Supreme Court decisions by elite White men almost 50 years ago that make it almost illegal to hire a White.

    It all happened 50 years ago before the young adult parents of today’s young White children were born And it was done by White male judges and members of congress. With a lot of help from ADL, AJC ACLU, Ford and other foundations and the usual suspects

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  82. pyrrhus says:

    England has an unwritten Constitution, which isn’t worth the paper it is written on….Amber Rudd just banned the National party by fiat, and Tony Blair trashed every right of Englishmen in sight….As a lawyer, I would say that since the Brexit referendum was passed by Parliament and did not contain language requiring further action by Parliament, the courts (no doubt stuffed with Remain supporters) are simply wrong.

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  83. Alden says:
    @Expletive Deleted
    The trick is to get on imbecile (former Chancellor then PM) Gordon Brown's accursed "Tax Credits" scheme, which gives parents (not singletons, who can go and shift for themselves) a substantial no-hard-questions-asked cash income, well in excess of anything they could earn by their own efforts. I can't recall what it is, but it's more than mere waged labour could rake in.

    More kids, more dosh, simples. Bonus for any sort of "disability" in the nippers. Maybe a free people-carrier (automatic, of course).
    Corporates love it, means they can pay minimum wage on zero-hours contracts, and the lower tax cattle subsidize them. All for 16 hrs a week, even working at some notional, self-certified form of self-employment, e.g. dog-walker, hair extensions manager, child minder (a.k.a. single mothers "taking in each others' washing"). Yes, it's ludicrous. So what? Nobody's "unemployed" innit.

    The whole country's at it, Brits (particularly in the abandoned burnt-over districts/rustbelt, oop north in Brexit land), EEs, PIIGS (native) refugees from Eurozone-induced terminal mass unemployment, jihadis, gypsies. It's the main migrant magnet. The Tories daren't touch it as it would cause a Spain-like unemployment crisis, and their tax-dodging business cronies would be mightily displeased with them. The perfect poisoned chalice, left to them by NuLaba.

    It will just go on and on. Until it can't. Tears before bedtime then.

    We have something similar for welfare moms in America. It’s part of Clinton’s 1990 joke of welfare reform. The idea was welfare to work. All the welfare moms would be forced to go back to work at part time low wage jobs. This at a time when illegal Hispanics were being brought in by the millions to work in those low wages jobs which didn’t make much sense.
    But low wages can’t support both a family and a child minder/ baby sitter.
    So welfare mins were give $800.00 per month per child for child minders. Even the Clibton democrats weren’t dumb enough to give the $800.00 per kid per month directly to the welfare mins. The money went directly to the baby sitters

    So the welfare mins just started baby sitting for each other. It’s turned into one of the biggest welfare scans in the country
    The welfare moms don’t actually have to go to work to get the child minder money They can sign up for a class at the local high school or community college (they don’t have to actually attend class) or “look for work” or go to a class at one of our numerous social service agencies about how to apply for a job.
    Numerous life long disabilities have been discovered since the welfare reform act as well.
    I don’t know how it is in the UK, but the standards for welfare and disability for Whites is much much higher than they are for illegal Hispanics and blacks. Whites have go through numerous applications and appeals while illegal aliens as long as they are not White get the benefits immediately

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  84. Steve84 says:

    As a Brit, I’d just like to say this is an excellent summary of the situation. Its pretty straight forward stuff I suppose but nice to see an American with a good solid grasp of it.

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  85. @Richard S
    The crown is sovereign. The courts are "royal", the government is HM. All the pre-19th century levers of powers in fact. The armed forces, the church, the prison system, customs and revenue etc etc are all headed, in principle, by the monarch.

    You seem to have missed his “in principle” though “nominally” might have been closer. He is not wrong despite the constutional convention, which the Supreme Court might well hold to be effectively law that the monarch only exercises the powers of government, or acts as part of the government, e.g. in diplomatic matters, on the advice of the PM. There is a nice little reserve of power when a new PM has to be appointed if all that is known is that the previous PM had died or lost the confidence of the Commons (as to which latter the sayso of the Speaker would probably be conclusive but, quaere, not necessarily justiciable).

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    Yeah, thanks Prof! Nominally would have been a better word-choice, you're right.

    Happy Christmas to you and yours :)
  86. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    To wait for the people to save themselves from elite-directed genocide achieved through suppressed reproduction (by way of state-dictated sex “education”, which treats reproduction as the only sexual vice), mass slaughter of the unborn, the export of working class jobs, and mass replacement immigration is to adopt a policy of futility and failure.

    Neither Britain nor America, nor any other Western nation is, was, or ever will be, a democracy. They are brainwashed dumbocracies. Democracy is a sham. The elite indoctrinate the people to vote for whatever the elite has to offer, and whatever the elite has to offer is backed by both Democrats and Republicans, Tories and Laborites, or whatever. Hence the election just passed was supposed to be a showdown between a dumb Bush and a fairly dumb Clinton, both committed to the globalist cause.

    We know what the elite wish for the European people. We’ve heard it repeatedly from the Clintons and from their counterparts, the globalists shills in Europe — Blair, Cameron, Merkel, and the rest. Meanwhile, the National Review openly calls for white genocide, heaping contempt upon those to be swept from the page of history in a manner reminiscent of Hitler’s ranting against Jews: “The truth about the residents of these dysfunctional, downscale communities” (i.e., unemployed whites whose jobs have been off-shored to collapsible factories in Bangladesh or Chinese factories with suicide nets), writes Kevin D. Williamson, “is that they deserve to die.”

    Thus there will be no change of course without a coup against the existing bipartisan elite. If Trump pursues the nationalist course he promised, then we will be able to say that his election represented just such a coup by one elite faction against the formerly incumbent elite faction.

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  87. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    "What will happen is that western influenced structures in America will be transformed from within to reflect the will of the people as it always has been."

    You got that one right. Except, the will of the new people will be very different than the will of the founding stock. It will not be "western influenced." Look at Africa. Look at the Middle East. Look at Mexico and South America. That's what our structures will look like with the new population because that is "Who they are" as Obama likes to say.

    Cultures spring from people and reflect their genetic predispositions. You can no more ask a large African population to act white than you can to ask a dog to fly. The U.S. has no magic dirt that will turn low IQ, low future oriented Africans and mestizos into NW Europeans. NE Asians have the IQ, but may lack the inherit individualism of NW Europeans.

    Countries reflect their populations. Africans as a group will never succeed in replicating the West. Show me one successful black-run country in the world. And no South Africa doesn't count because they have the British legacy and a significant white population. (But even South Africa will fail over time.)

    "American whites are capable of making their own racial decisions."

    They certainly are capable but they are not allowed to implement those decisions. Do you really think that the majority of whites wouldn't choose to live in white-only or white/Asian-only communities if it were legally and socially allowed?

    You fool yourself that whites want to live around blacks and Hispanics. Perhaps you are black and have white friends. And, indeed, they almost certainly do like you and like you as a neighbor. But they also understand the danger of blacks as a group and if they were forced to choose between a 100% white neighborhood and 50/50 white/black neighborhood, they would choose the white neighborhood every time.

    That's why my vision of the future - one where whites who wish to live among their own - should be so terrifying for someone like yourself. If even a quarter or third of whites started to self-segregate, it would force the other whites to choose. And they would choose their own.

    "Feel free to create your own white-based societies within the nation. Our homeland is for, by, and of Americans…not whites."

    Thank you for making my point. The term "American" has become pointless. If a club has no membership requirement, it's not a club. Proposition nations fail. The word nation comes from the Latin word natio, meaning "people, tribe, kin, genus, class, flock."

    Besides, what do you care if some deplorable whites want to live among their own. I don't care if blacks want to live in their own communities or set up their own self-contained society. Good for them.

    "Everyday white Americans demonstrate their devotion to their country. They have established business and cultural ties. Why you are blind to this phenomenon?"

    Everyday white Americans have no choice but to live and work with blacks and browns. Give them a choice and see what they do. Judging from even liberal whites do when deciding where to live and where to send their kids to school, it's not hard to figure out what whites would do.

    Face it. Blacks and mestizos are incapable - as a group - to managed a Western society. They just aren't - and everybody knows it.

    “You got that one right. Except, the will of the new people will be very different than the will of the founding stock. It will not be “western influenced.” Look at Africa. Look at the Middle East. Look at Mexico and South America. That’s what our structures will look like with the new population because that is “Who they are” as Obama likes to say.”

    Right, it will be “American influenced”. Remember, the founding stock has changed. That’s what happens in nations over time. It’s called progress.

    “Cultures spring from people and reflect their genetic predispositions.”

    Nope. Cultures are the result of the intellect AND surrounding environment of the people who reside in a given area.

    “You can no more ask a large African population to act white than you can to ask a dog to fly. ”

    It’s not about “acting white”, it’s about acting like a human being.

    “The U.S. has no magic dirt that will turn low IQ, low future oriented Africans and mestizos into
    NW Europeans.”

    You mean whites, not NW Europeans. You are leaving out Southern and Eastern Europeans. Why? Are they “low IQ, low future orientated”?

    “NE Asians have the IQ, but may lack the inherit individualism of NW Europeans.”

    Inherent, not inherit. And individualism is a trait of humans.

    “Countries reflect their populations. Africans as a group will never succeed in replicating the West.”

    Perhaps the West isn’t all that it is cracked up to be. Remember, Europeans decimated Africa for their own individual and collective well-being.

    “Show me one successful black-run country in the world.”

    Define “successful”.

    “And no South Africa doesn’t count because they have the British legacy and a significant white population. (But even South Africa will fail over time.)”

    South Africa assuredly counts.

    “They certainly are capable but they are not allowed to implement those decisions.”

    American whites are certainly able to put forth their own efforts to live exclusively amongst themselves.

    “Do you really think that the majority of whites wouldn’t choose to live in white-only or white/Asian-only communities if it were legally and socially allowed?”

    The majority of American whites clearly have spoken on this matter. They have erected the legal and social rules to live and procreate with non-whites.

    “You fool yourself that whites want to live around blacks and Hispanics.”

    No, the only person tricking themselves is believing that most American whites act and think like yourself.

    “Perhaps you are black and have white friends. And, indeed, they almost certainly do like you and like you as a neighbor. But they also understand the danger of blacks as a group and if they were forced to choose between a 100% white neighborhood and 50/50 white/black neighborhood, they would choose the white neighborhood every time.”

    Every time? How are you so absolutely certain?

    “That’s why my vision of the future – one where whites who wish to live among their own – should be so terrifying for someone like yourself. If even a quarter or third of whites started to self-segregate, it would force the other whites to choose. And they would choose their own.”

    Congratulations on your False News Story.

    “Feel free to create your own white-based societies within the nation. Our homeland is for, by, and of Americans…not whites.”

    “The term “American” has become pointless. If a club has no membership requirement, it’s not a club. Proposition nations fail. The word nation comes from the Latin word natio, meaning “people, tribe, kin, genus, class, flock.”

    The Founding Fathers enabled its citizens to set the course for its future. Exactly why Congress was granted the liberty to set the criteria for citizenship. American means something. Ask de J. Hector St. John de Crèvecœur and Alexis de Tocqueville.

    “Everyday white Americans have no choice but to live and work with blacks and browns. Give them a choice and see what they do.”

    That is observably false. Most white Americans have made their decision to live, work, play, and procreate with the blacks, and the browns, and the reds, and the yellows. Where have you been, boy?

    “Face it. Blacks and mestizos are incapable – as a group – to managed a Western society. They just aren’t – and everybody knows it.”

    You keep deceiving yourself, dear.

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  88. Che Guava says:
    @Anon
    We need to understand that Jewish Power is founded on the sacralization of the pud and poon, the union of seed and egg to keep the blood flowing through the ages.

    Abraham was no great thinker or leader. It was Moses who later set down the law. It was David and his son Solomon who later rose to great political heights.

    But even before there was the law, even before there was political power, there was the power of the idea of ethnos. But what made it special was that the Jewish ethnos wasn't just another bloodline but a bloodline blessed by God via Abraham's pud. Thus, ethnos was turned from a biological/familial reality to a holy genetic mission.

    This is why all peoples should form their own Covenant that sanctifies the union of their pud and poon. Before the power, there was the law, but before the law, there was the people, and this people began as a family of man flowing from a particular pair of pud and poon. The genius of Jews was that they sanctified their pair of pud and poon of origin.

    So, identity is really about genitality fused with spirituality.

    This is why Yukio Mishima thought the Emperor was so important to Japanese identity. He didn't believe in the divinity of the Emperor, but it was only the myth of the Emperor that tied the Japanese race/people to their identity as a collective family with mythic & sacred origin.

    After all, capitalism or democracy can belong to any people. But Japaneseness can only belong to Japanese people. But how? Through the emperor bloodline wit him as mythic father figure of all Japanese.

    He didn’t believe in the divinity of the Emperor

    He wrote an essay attacking the Emperor’s disavowal of divinity. It is well-known.

    You seem to have quite a thing for Mishima (his pen name, not his real name).

    Since you never stop ranting about ‘homo’s’, and you know that Mishima was one, it is a little mystifying.

    On a lighter note, have you seen Schraeder’s Mishima, a Life in Four Parts?

    It is a masterpiece. It was banned in Japan for years, maybe still is. His wife had good connections with the ruling party.

    One of his gay lovers (a drag queen) is not infrequently on TV, even now.

    His main same-sex lover passed away, but his book on it was blocked through court action by Mishima’s children, although tne content is true, real correspondence.

    Think those are all great things, Priss?

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  89. Richard S says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    You seem to have missed his "in principle" though "nominally" might have been closer. He is not wrong despite the constutional convention, which the Supreme Court might well hold to be effectively law that the monarch only exercises the powers of government, or acts as part of the government, e.g. in diplomatic matters, on the advice of the PM. There is a nice little reserve of power when a new PM has to be appointed if all that is known is that the previous PM had died or lost the confidence of the Commons (as to which latter the sayso of the Speaker would probably be conclusive but, quaere, not necessarily justiciable).

    Yeah, thanks Prof! Nominally would have been a better word-choice, you’re right.

    Happy Christmas to you and yours :)

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    Your very civil sentiments reciprocated:-) !

    I accidentally replied to you in defence of you instead of to your critic. I shall now alert him.
  90. @Richard S
    Yeah, thanks Prof! Nominally would have been a better word-choice, you're right.

    Happy Christmas to you and yours :)

    Your very civil sentiments reciprocated:-) !

    I accidentally replied to you in defence of you instead of to your critic. I shall now alert him.

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  91. @Alden
    You are wrong about that. But if it were true that the sovereign actually was in charge of the government prime minister and the various cabinet departments: then just what has the sovereign been doing since 1948 ro save the native British people from drowning in black and brown Muslim immigrants?

    You're not English are you?

    See #86 which was meant to be a reply to you.

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    The sovereign has no powers what so ever despite the fact that the civil service is titled His or Her Majesty's government

    And I repeat, if the sovereign actually does anything but change her costumes, hit her marks and recite her lines, why have 2 sovereigns allowed the destruction of their people by blacks and Browns since 1948?
  92. Alden says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    See #86 which was meant to be a reply to you.

    The sovereign has no powers what so ever despite the fact that the civil service is titled His or Her Majesty’s government

    And I repeat, if the sovereign actually does anything but change her costumes, hit her marks and recite her lines, why have 2 sovereigns allowed the destruction of their people by blacks and Browns since 1948?

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    You clearly have no background in practising or teaching the law. Do you have any occupation in your background that requires the articulation of logical argument or explanation? I ask that because your non-responsive** reply to me is also internally fallacious. Of course it does not follow that, because she has not done anything to affect the UK's immigration policies - and indeed could not do so, she has no important powers at all.
    ** I mean "non-responsive" in the term familiar in courts when a witness is described as "non-responsive" which is a neutral way of describing someone's failure to address the point of a question. Neutral because it avoids applying the term "deceptive" or even definitively nominating the non-responsive person as too stupid to understand the question.
  93. This Corvinus has got to be the most insufferable commenter on Unz.

    History, geography, anthropology, and simply looking around you and honestly assessing the situation will prove that Corvinus is delusional.

    What is “successful” in terms of countries?
    I have a simple metric: if you need a safe blood transfusion within an hour’s time you can get one. If that’s the case you’re country is “successful.”
    That’s one of a thousand possible metrics which could be used. You have to be absolutely obstinate to look at the first world, then Subsaharan africa, and come to the conclusion that it’s a “potato/Pa-Totto” issue. Far from it.

    Is there a serious risk of you running out of gas and ending up dead as a result? How many people do you know have been robbed by bandits running a roadblock on an interstate in America?
    Has more then one person in your family been killed by an animal? Stray dogs? What percentage of the population suffers from TB? What about AIDS?
    How many Armed groups operate within your country’s borders while claiming to have legitimate authority over that country?
    If you need a specialized antibiotic, can you get one?
    Let me give you a final example about what “successful” is. As someone who has been all over the African continent, and studied in the descent into hell known as South Africa, let me provide the perfect contrast.
    In Malawi in W. Africa, thousands of children die what to me (and many others) is the most horrific of all deaths- that of rabies. This is because Malawi doesn’t have an infrastructure for the vaccination of removal of stray dogs. It’s a vicious, hellish thing to see someone transform rabid and die isolated from friends and loved ones. I know because I’ve seen it.
    In the U.S., due to vaccination efforts and veterinary medicine, only around ONE person dies of rabies annually. That death is most often the result of a clandestine bat bite, such as a bat being inside someone’s home and biting them while they slept. And that one person each year has died much more peacefully in the U.S. than any of those at the dog bite clinic in Malawi I worked at. Sedation and painkillers can at least stop the slide into hell.
    Rabies is ALWAYS fatal. Isn’t it?
    Well it was until 2007, when an American doctor developed what is called the ” Milwaukee Protocol” to save a young woman infected by a bat. He induced a coma and she actually survived king enough to fight off the virus. Her treatment cost around $500,000. She is the first known individual in history to develop symptomatic rabies and live.

    It’s called the “Milwaukee” Protocol for a reason. Notice that it isn’t the “Malawi” protocol? Or the “Monrovia” protocol? Or what about the “Mogadishu” protocol? It never is. Why is that?
    And to say that many blacks don’t want us purged is deep delusion. Living in St. Louis over the last four and a half years, and losing my friend Zemir, beaten to death with hammers by racist black rioters, I’ve experienced their hatred for us on a daily basis. No amount of sophistry could ever explain away the death threats, insults, belittling and vicious hatred.

    Let me ask you, why is it that net 60,000 whites leave California every year? Why has that state’s standard of living declined along with demographic change, what you call “progress?” Why is that ALWAYS the case? The dishonesty to one’s own self is too much even.

    On top of that, you have the ethnic cleansing of the once considerable black population in Southern California.
    Do you think Compton stopped being a “Chocolate City” because the black women there put their high-powered careers before childbirth?

    No. They have been driven out by gangs who have viciously murdered black children in order to drive out the black population, which they are succeeding at.

    As far as whites wanting to live in diversity, don’t treat the 1960s leftist sentiment like it will last past the death of the boomers. The millennials seem irrevocably leftist, but I guarantee that they will smash that foolishness the second power is transferred.

    In Europe, the invaders will be driven out, just as they were in preceding centuries.

    In America, we will develop some kind of system that allows whites and asians room to prosper, and blacks room to destroy. the two never go together. The minority of productive, civilized blacks will exist within the white-dominated social order, separated from the great majority of their race. Really it’s like that now. Most just refuse to look at reality.

    Our cities are already segregated. People keep referring to “nice black neighborhoods.”
    I’ve been all over North America and the world and have never seen one.

    I don’t hate blacks. But the “children of five races eating nuggets and fries at the same McDonald’s birthday party,” and the “we’re all one people because of freedom and the constitution” foolishness has to go. Truthfully it’s already gone.

    In truth leftist propaganda and sentiment has already been trashed by reality. This isn’t 1980. It’s just taken a while for the rot to reach everyone. More and more are waking up daily.

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  94. @Alden
    The sovereign has no powers what so ever despite the fact that the civil service is titled His or Her Majesty's government

    And I repeat, if the sovereign actually does anything but change her costumes, hit her marks and recite her lines, why have 2 sovereigns allowed the destruction of their people by blacks and Browns since 1948?

    You clearly have no background in practising or teaching the law. Do you have any occupation in your background that requires the articulation of logical argument or explanation? I ask that because your non-responsive** reply to me is also internally fallacious. Of course it does not follow that, because she has not done anything to affect the UK’s immigration policies – and indeed could not do so, she has no important powers at all.
    ** I mean “non-responsive” in the term familiar in courts when a witness is described as “non-responsive” which is a neutral way of describing someone’s failure to address the point of a question. Neutral because it avoids applying the term “deceptive” or even definitively nominating the non-responsive person as too stupid to understand the question.

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