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A lot of email still coming in on my “Importing an overclass” post. Some sample points from the email bag.

White South Africans?

A reader:

Though I generally agree with your call for an almost complete moratorium on future immigration, I was surprised that you had not carved out an exception for white South African immigrants.

If the situation over there looked like going Rwandan, I’d favor an emergency intake. Seems to me it’s far from that, though. Right now.

They seemed to have settled into a sort of Malaysian analog: The capable minority (whites in SA, Chinese in Malaysia) are left alone to keep the economy going, while the dumber majority (blacks, bumiputra) get government make-work jobs and opportunities for corruption.

Far as I can tell it’s stable. SA whites don’t seem to be clamoring to leave.

Let’s recall also that there were plenty of white liberal South Africans eager to give their country away.

I’m not really au fait with current SA affairs, though, and will gladly take correction from people better informed.

Comparing Today’s Asians With Yesterday’s Jews

A Canadian reader tells me I’ve overlooked an obvious fact:

100 years ago there were maybe 15 million Ashkenazi Jews worldwide (some large portion of which was not even modern and secular) whereas there are possibly 1.5 billion people in China and several hundred million Chinese outside of China, and many of these people would like to move to the West.

True enough, with the slight qualifying factor that the U.S. population 100 years ago was only a hundred million, so there’s some modest scaling-up to do for a fair comparison.

He adds:

My own country, Canada, is in fact being sold off and is transitioning into a Chinese polity without opposition or even public discussion …

Yes, I’ve written about this. Real estate, foreign purchasers thereof, needs some attention from immigration patriots.

Foreigners Who’ve Put Their Lives On The Line To Help U.S. Interests

I excluded this category from my moratorium. A reader responded thus:

With the plethora of wars foisted on us by the neocons, leftists, and deep-state bureaucrats, this definition allows the immigration of the entire Iraqi army and possibly the army in Niger, Yemen, and whatever other Third-World swamp where the deep state has decided one pooh-bah is favorable to another. Plus, we get to allow in all the Syrian rebel groups funded by the CIA to overthrow the Syrian government …

Nah. There’s a line to be drawn there, and enlisted Iraqi grunts are well the other side of it. I’d want signed affidavits from senior U.S. personnel naming the guy and his deeds, which had better be impressively dangerous.

The Tail Effect

A reader wants to know more about the tail effect I mentioned in reference to statistical distributions.

OK. Suppose you have two normal distributions (the famous Bell Curve), identical in shape — same area (i.e. population size), same standard deviation (i.e. “spread”) — but with different means.

Arthur Jensen is pictured drawing two Bell Curves

Overlay one on the other, the two curves offset by that difference in means. Now add a vertical line that cuts off the two right-hand tails some way out on the x-axis.

Here’s the thing: The areas under those two cutoff tails can be wildly different, even for quite modest differences in the means of the distributions. The difference in the means is magnified out there in the tails.

I had Microsoft Excel make a table of the magnification factors. To make it relevant to IQ I set the standard deviation to 15.

So if the the mean for population A is 90 (around the world average IQ) and the mean for population B is 15 points higher (the East Asian average), then out beyond a cutoff point IQ 90+50=140 (pretty darn smart) there are nearly 23 times as many Bs per million (or per any fixed number) as As.

For a more extreme case, suppose the lower mean M is 70, the sub-Saharan African mean IQ, and the high mean is M plus 45 = 115, the high-end estimate for mean Ashkenazi-Jewish IQ. Then out beyond IQ 140 (i.e. M+70) there are better than 31,000 times as many Ashkenazim per million as there are SSAs.

There are a whole host of qualifications to be noted. I’m working from the pure mathematics of the bell curve. In the human sciences, pure math tends to break down at the extremes. Out in those far tails of the bell curve, things may be more granular. Charles Murray’s account of the Lotka Curve in Chapter Six of Human Accomplishment is relevant here.

My assumption of a standard deviation 15 in IQ for all human populations is also just an approximation. Different populations likely have different s.d.s, although data on this is surprisingly sparse.

The USCIS Director Gets Halfway There

USCIS (that is, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services) Director L. Francis Cissna had a December 8th op-ed in The Hill titled Break the Chain and Lose the Lottery — America deserves a better immigration system. He called for ending chain migration and killing the “diversity” visa lottery.

That’s good so far as it goes. Publishing when he did, though, Director Cissna did not have time to read and inwardly digest my reservations about a merit-based immigration system. He writes:

We need to end extended family chain-migration that favors low-skilled or no-skilled immigrants, and instead establish a point-based system for merit-based immigration.

It’s encouraging to see such a well-placed official see some of the light; but I urge Director Cissna to think some more about merit-based immigration, following the trail I have blazed.

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John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  1. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Foreigners Who’ve Put Their Lives On The Line To Help U.S. Interests,” i.e., people helping the American Empire abroad, at least some of whom their own countrymen would tend to see as traitors.

    This still sticks out like a sore thumb, as did Mr. Derbyshire’s playing proud recently over his son’s hiring on as a soldier. The conflation of “U.S. Interests” with those of Americans, especially when the article concerns a fundamental tension between the two, seems naïve at best, perhaps reflecting gratitude for his own residence here or an Englishman’s sense of fealty.

    Can he or anyone else address why Mr. Derbyshire, who proudly says he was “fired” by the National Review, still feels compelled to salute his (adopted) Uncle Sam?

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  2. TheOldOne says:

    Derbyshire wasn’t an employee of NR, so he could not have been fired.

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    Did he not write, next to that silly picture of himself with the ladder, "(This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.)"?

    My point was and is that he no longer has a gig with NR, where he might have been under pressure to endorse USG imperialism. Thus, I want to know why he still does so.

    Can you shed any light on that?
    , @anonymous
    Where'd you go? Fell, and can't get up?
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  3. More from the Overclass

    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2017/12/11/hanrahan-harvard-responsible-sexual-assault/

    What sheer hokum.

    This is really a boast by Hanrahan about how virtuous he is. The WORST sin he committed by his own confession was that he spoke about women’s look.

    It’s like a guy confessing that the worst sin he ever committed was having played poker for pennies with friends. Oh what vice.

    In other words, he’s a well-behaved dork and mama’s boy who never did anything untoward womenfolk except talk about their looks.

    It’s like someone confessing that his biggest sin of thievery was wishing he had what someone else owned. In other words, he never stole and only coveted what another had. This ‘confession’ is more about pride than guilt because it says he never actually stole anything.

    Also, notice how Hanrahan makes himself morally superior to the OTHER guys. Other guys were having fun talking about womenfolk, but Hanrahan, why, he was troubled by talking about such stuff. He felt soul-tremors.

    What a goody-two-shoes neo-Victorian.

    His conscience was oh-so-disturbed… like the moment Peter felt bad about having denied Jesus three times.

    Now, if Hanrahan is serious, he would address the fact that the main booster of bad male behavior and women-as-objects is black rap culture where guys talk of women as skanky biatches and where women undulate and present themselves as slutty ho’s whose path of empowerment is to act like hookers-gone-wild.

    But gee, any criticism of blacks must be raciiiiiist since blacks, along with Jews and homosexuals, must be flattered at all times.

    If honest, Hanrahan would also note that there is actually very few cases of rape in most colleges and that a high percentage actually involve black athletes there on athletic scholarship. but that too would be raciiiiiiiist since it speaks negatively of blacks who must be worshiped.

    Finally, if Hanrahan is one of those proggy types, what is he doing at ultra-exclusive Harvard?

    Universities like Harvard pontificate about ‘inclusion’ to mask the fact that they are exclusive mills for producing elites who get to enjoy special privileges in everything. Harvard types end up working for Wall Street to fleece the world, working for Deep State to perpetuate US globo-hegemony, and working in elite institutions to spread censorious PC and subvert freedom of speech and criticism.

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    I speculate that at least part of the PC madness at the Ivys is due to the over-unter class dynamics. I think the large cohort of Asian over-unter class there is amplifying the madness primarily originated by the Jewish over class thought leaders.
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  4. Here is a 4D chess move idea.

    I think it will be good for the Alt Right and Nationalist Whites to push for ending anti-Asian ‘affirmative action’ in elite colleges. It’d be good for Nationalist Whites if more Asians take over the commanding heights.

    Why?

    As Derbyshire explained, Jews got away with taking over elite institutions because they are another subgroup of the White Race. Though different, many Jews look like other whites, and even ones that look Semitic are part European. So, Jews could play it both ways. As white and non-white.

    In contrast, Asians will always seem Asian. When whites(and even blacks and Mesos) see so many Asians on top, they will be less likely to go along with the Globalist Plan. Globalism will seem more alien, more Ming the Merciless like. Now, Asian elites may reach out to other minorities, but there will be resentment among non-whites as to why ASIANS got so much power and privilege in higher institutions.

    Also, while Jews have been protected the Shoah Cult, a neo-religion in the West, there isn’t much to feel guilty about when it comes to Asians. Sure, Chinese-Americans can mention the opium trade, but that was British and Jewish doing than American(even though the Roosevelt clan did make some big money). Filos can bitch about US-Filo War that killed so many, but Filos are such ridiculous clowns and whores. Besides, Filos aren’t the ones who are gonna reach the top. As for Japanese-Americans, they’ve interbred so much that they hardly figure as a group. And even though there was the ‘internment’ thing, it wasn’t exactly the Shoah. There was Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but the Narrative has been that Japan attacked first, was allied with Nazi Germany, and did horrible things in China, so that evens it out. Koreans in America may bring up the Korean War, but the consensus among most doggish Kors is that noble US bailed them out and saved them from communism(even though it was US machinations that turned over northern half to Stalin and his puppet). The Korean Left is now mostly into Diversity and homomania. Chinese-Americans may mention the railroad workers, but even after yrs of KUNG FU series, it didn’t do much to make Americans feel much guilt. Asians just don’t inspire much guilt because yellow cake is more ‘white bread’ than white bread. Boring and dull.

    So, nationalist whites don’t have to worry much about Asians guilt-tripping them like pushy Jews and nasty blacks have done. Unlike with Jewish elites, nationalist whites(and other non-Asians) can speak truth to Asian power. Notice how even Jewish-run media love to play Yellow Peril tropes.
    So, if Asians are more prominent in elite circles, it can be Open Season on them.

    Also, Asians as new elites will be confused and lost since they are incapable of coming up with new paradigms. When Jews were gaining against Wasps, they not only made the climb but rewrote the narrative, changed the rules, altered the idols, and shifted the themes. This happened across the spectrum, from the ‘right’ — Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman — to the ‘left’ — Noam Chomsky and Norman Mailer. And Jews produced prophetic types like Bob Dylan.

    In contrast, all the new Asian elites are boring yellow dogs of PC. They never had an original, individual, or independent thought in their lives. They may be higher-IQ but they are low in PQ or personality quotient. As long as Asians follow the lead of Jews, homos, white cucks, and blacks, they have something to parrot and follow. But as the elites of America, they will be completely lost and befuddled as they are incapable of having visions of their own. It’s like Japanese investment in America in the 80s turned into a total disaster as Japanese weren’t good at operating outside their cultural milieu.

    As for the Hindus, most Americans find them amusing as Apu on Simpsons, but no one wants to live in Planet of the Apu. The thing is it’s game to bash Apu in a way that it’s not with Apatow.

    With too many Yellows and People of Dot at upper echelons of power, it will be much easier for Nationalist Whites to wage war on the Globalist Elite project.

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    also the Asians as a group can in no way mimic the clannishness of the Jews. The Chinese Mandarins will be resented by the Indian Brahmans. Also, with looming near peer competitor giga nation states breathing down America's neck, many Chinese and Indians will have one foot over there like the Jews do with Israel. Israel is special for Christian whites and the Jews could used that to their advantage very well. But the dual loyalty of Indians and Chinese will be exposed as traitorous.
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yeah, I've often wondered if the competition from NE Asians and Indians will finally turn American Jews against immigration.

    As always, the questions remains: Is it good for the Jews?

    As I mentioned somewhere, the only Jews that I've known that openly questioned (not necessarily opposed but at least questioned) large-scale immigration were the Jews that I know who live in Fairfax County, Virginia.

    Why?

    There are a lot of Chinese, Koreans and Indians in Northern Virginia, and they are pushing hard on all the Jewish fronts. Their kids compete against Jewish kids in school. They are getting into politics. They have ethnic civic and political groups. Basically, they're acting like Jews, and the Jews don't like it.

    Stephan Miller grew up in multi-everything Southern California. A lot of people think that his conversion to limited immigration was because he saw what Mexicans did to his state. That's probably true; however, I'd also suspect that he saw what Chinese and Koreans and Indians did as well.

    Appeal to people's self-interest and cut a deal with the Jews. Stop immigration. Whites want to keep out competition for the blue-collar jobs while Jews want to keep out competition for the overlord class. Everybody wins.
    , @Vinteuil
    This is classic, delirious Priss Factor at his best - except that there are no movie clips!
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  5. @Priss Factor
    Here is a 4D chess move idea.

    I think it will be good for the Alt Right and Nationalist Whites to push for ending anti-Asian 'affirmative action' in elite colleges. It'd be good for Nationalist Whites if more Asians take over the commanding heights.

    Why?

    As Derbyshire explained, Jews got away with taking over elite institutions because they are another subgroup of the White Race. Though different, many Jews look like other whites, and even ones that look Semitic are part European. So, Jews could play it both ways. As white and non-white.

    In contrast, Asians will always seem Asian. When whites(and even blacks and Mesos) see so many Asians on top, they will be less likely to go along with the Globalist Plan. Globalism will seem more alien, more Ming the Merciless like. Now, Asian elites may reach out to other minorities, but there will be resentment among non-whites as to why ASIANS got so much power and privilege in higher institutions.

    Also, while Jews have been protected the Shoah Cult, a neo-religion in the West, there isn't much to feel guilty about when it comes to Asians. Sure, Chinese-Americans can mention the opium trade, but that was British and Jewish doing than American(even though the Roosevelt clan did make some big money). Filos can bitch about US-Filo War that killed so many, but Filos are such ridiculous clowns and whores. Besides, Filos aren't the ones who are gonna reach the top. As for Japanese-Americans, they've interbred so much that they hardly figure as a group. And even though there was the 'internment' thing, it wasn't exactly the Shoah. There was Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but the Narrative has been that Japan attacked first, was allied with Nazi Germany, and did horrible things in China, so that evens it out. Koreans in America may bring up the Korean War, but the consensus among most doggish Kors is that noble US bailed them out and saved them from communism(even though it was US machinations that turned over northern half to Stalin and his puppet). The Korean Left is now mostly into Diversity and homomania. Chinese-Americans may mention the railroad workers, but even after yrs of KUNG FU series, it didn't do much to make Americans feel much guilt. Asians just don't inspire much guilt because yellow cake is more 'white bread' than white bread. Boring and dull.

    So, nationalist whites don't have to worry much about Asians guilt-tripping them like pushy Jews and nasty blacks have done. Unlike with Jewish elites, nationalist whites(and other non-Asians) can speak truth to Asian power. Notice how even Jewish-run media love to play Yellow Peril tropes.
    So, if Asians are more prominent in elite circles, it can be Open Season on them.

    Also, Asians as new elites will be confused and lost since they are incapable of coming up with new paradigms. When Jews were gaining against Wasps, they not only made the climb but rewrote the narrative, changed the rules, altered the idols, and shifted the themes. This happened across the spectrum, from the 'right' -- Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman -- to the 'left' -- Noam Chomsky and Norman Mailer. And Jews produced prophetic types like Bob Dylan.

    In contrast, all the new Asian elites are boring yellow dogs of PC. They never had an original, individual, or independent thought in their lives. They may be higher-IQ but they are low in PQ or personality quotient. As long as Asians follow the lead of Jews, homos, white cucks, and blacks, they have something to parrot and follow. But as the elites of America, they will be completely lost and befuddled as they are incapable of having visions of their own. It's like Japanese investment in America in the 80s turned into a total disaster as Japanese weren't good at operating outside their cultural milieu.

    As for the Hindus, most Americans find them amusing as Apu on Simpsons, but no one wants to live in Planet of the Apu. The thing is it's game to bash Apu in a way that it's not with Apatow.

    With too many Yellows and People of Dot at upper echelons of power, it will be much easier for Nationalist Whites to wage war on the Globalist Elite project.

    also the Asians as a group can in no way mimic the clannishness of the Jews. The Chinese Mandarins will be resented by the Indian Brahmans. Also, with looming near peer competitor giga nation states breathing down America’s neck, many Chinese and Indians will have one foot over there like the Jews do with Israel. Israel is special for Christian whites and the Jews could used that to their advantage very well. But the dual loyalty of Indians and Chinese will be exposed as traitorous.

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  6. @Priss Factor
    More from the Overclass

    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2017/12/11/hanrahan-harvard-responsible-sexual-assault/

    What sheer hokum.

    This is really a boast by Hanrahan about how virtuous he is. The WORST sin he committed by his own confession was that he spoke about women's look.

    It's like a guy confessing that the worst sin he ever committed was having played poker for pennies with friends. Oh what vice.

    In other words, he's a well-behaved dork and mama's boy who never did anything untoward womenfolk except talk about their looks.

    It's like someone confessing that his biggest sin of thievery was wishing he had what someone else owned. In other words, he never stole and only coveted what another had. This 'confession' is more about pride than guilt because it says he never actually stole anything.

    Also, notice how Hanrahan makes himself morally superior to the OTHER guys. Other guys were having fun talking about womenfolk, but Hanrahan, why, he was troubled by talking about such stuff. He felt soul-tremors.

    What a goody-two-shoes neo-Victorian.

    His conscience was oh-so-disturbed... like the moment Peter felt bad about having denied Jesus three times.

    Now, if Hanrahan is serious, he would address the fact that the main booster of bad male behavior and women-as-objects is black rap culture where guys talk of women as skanky biatches and where women undulate and present themselves as slutty ho's whose path of empowerment is to act like hookers-gone-wild.

    But gee, any criticism of blacks must be raciiiiiist since blacks, along with Jews and homosexuals, must be flattered at all times.

    If honest, Hanrahan would also note that there is actually very few cases of rape in most colleges and that a high percentage actually involve black athletes there on athletic scholarship. but that too would be raciiiiiiiist since it speaks negatively of blacks who must be worshiped.

    Finally, if Hanrahan is one of those proggy types, what is he doing at ultra-exclusive Harvard?

    Universities like Harvard pontificate about 'inclusion' to mask the fact that they are exclusive mills for producing elites who get to enjoy special privileges in everything. Harvard types end up working for Wall Street to fleece the world, working for Deep State to perpetuate US globo-hegemony, and working in elite institutions to spread censorious PC and subvert freedom of speech and criticism.

    I speculate that at least part of the PC madness at the Ivys is due to the over-unter class dynamics. I think the large cohort of Asian over-unter class there is amplifying the madness primarily originated by the Jewish over class thought leaders.

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  7. Yan Shen says:

    100 years ago there were maybe 15 million Ashkenazi Jews worldwide (some large portion of which was not even modern and secular) whereas there are possibly 1.5 billion people in China and several hundred million Chinese outside of China, and many of these people would like to move to the West

    .

    Your friend seems to be a bit off by several hundred million in his accounting of the global Chinese population. The official population of China is somewhere between 1.38 to 1.4 billion and according to the Wikipedia, the overseas Chinese population is over 50 million, with the vast majority of that concentrated in Southeast Asia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Chinese

    http://time.com/4569564/international-us-students/

    Well, I suppose we need to define the word “many”. For sure non-trivial numbers of Chinese are interested in obtaining a college degree from the United States, with I believe over 320,000 Chinese students studying in the US at both the undergraduate and graduate level. However, increasingly many of them are returning to China post-graduation due to better job opportunities at home.

    https://thepienews.com/news/80-of-chinese-students-return-home/

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2017-03/01/content_28398389.htm

    In 2016, 544,500 Chinese students studied overseas, 144,900 people more than 2012; while the number of returnees in 2016 was 432,500, up 159,600 than 2012, said Xu Tao, head of the international division of the ministry.

    Nearly 80 percent of students overseas went to an English-speaking country in 2016. The United States, the United Kingdom and Australia were the preferred destinations, Xu said.

    Also referred to as ‘sea turtles’, the number of Chinese returnees reached 432,500 in 2016, an increase from 409,100 in 2015.

    The appeal of the opportunities available on these students’ return is one reason why they decide to return home, according to Shiny Wang, director of college counseling at Tsinghua University High School in Beijing.

    “There are more and more career opportunities and formalities for international Chinese to take important roles back home”

    “Students believe there are more opportunities for them to find jobs and develop if they come back than staying overseas to do so, which seems more and more difficult,” he told The PIE News.

    As for Chinese purchases of housing in countries such as Canada, I suppose your reader may have a point about that. But in general, the numbers of Chinese living in the West are fairly minimal compared to the total global Chinese population.

    I still think that Derbyshire and many of his readers are missing the forest for the trees. It’s not Chinese living in the US that Americans should be concerned about. As the rise of industrial Japan proved, we should be far more concerned about how the rise of a population of 1380 million people will affect the future of American competitiveness. In this respect, someone like Eamonn Fingleton is much more on the mark.

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    "It’s not Chinese living in the US that Americans should be concerned about. As the rise of industrial Japan proved, we should be far more concerned about how the rise of a population of 1380 million people will affect the future of American competitiveness."

    Who's this "we" of whom you speak, kemosabe?
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  8. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @TheOldOne
    Derbyshire wasn't an employee of NR, so he could not have been fired.

    Did he not write, next to that silly picture of himself with the ladder, “(This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.)”?

    My point was and is that he no longer has a gig with NR, where he might have been under pressure to endorse USG imperialism. Thus, I want to know why he still does so.

    Can you shed any light on that?

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  9. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Ramz and Youtube

    Youtube isn’t into ‘book burning’. They are into ‘book burying’.

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  10. Art Deco says:

    Let’s recall also that there were plenty of white liberal South Africans eager to give their country away.

    ‘Away’ to whom? You mean the 30 million other people who actually live there?

    They seemed to have settled into a sort of Malaysian analog: The capable minority (whites in SA, Chinese in Malaysia) are left alone to keep the economy going, while the dumber majority (blacks, bumiputra) get government make-work jobs and opportunities for corruption.

    About 53% of the population of Malaysia is Malay. Shy of 80% of the population of South Africa is black. Just what share of them do you fancy subsist on ‘government make-work jobs”?

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    Isn't it in slightly poor taste to say that South Africa belongs to the whites? Or for that matter that Malaysia belongs to the Chinese?
    , @Groyper
    "‘Away’ to whom? You mean the 30 million other people who actually live there?"

    To the black tribal invaders who were attracted to the wealth of the nation settled by whites. Or is it that the Zulus just own it because they're black, despite the fact that the boer were the ones who settled it when it was empty?

    "About 53% of the population of Malaysia is Malay. Shy of 80% of the population of South Africa is black. Just what share of them do you fancy subsist on ‘government make-work jobs'?"

    About what proportion of africans in america subsist on either welfare or corporate/government diversity make-work jobs? A huge proportion, and the blacks in america are both more intelligent than south african blacks and not yet in a position to demand anything they want from whites; and so it seems reasonable to say that an even huger proportion of the blacks with any significant income in south africa are subsisting the same way (hence why south africa's having trouble keeping the lights on)
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  11. Yan Shen says:
    @Art Deco
    Let’s recall also that there were plenty of white liberal South Africans eager to give their country away.

    'Away' to whom? You mean the 30 million other people who actually live there?


    They seemed to have settled into a sort of Malaysian analog: The capable minority (whites in SA, Chinese in Malaysia) are left alone to keep the economy going, while the dumber majority (blacks, bumiputra) get government make-work jobs and opportunities for corruption.

    About 53% of the population of Malaysia is Malay. Shy of 80% of the population of South Africa is black. Just what share of them do you fancy subsist on 'government make-work jobs"?

    Isn’t it in slightly poor taste to say that South Africa belongs to the whites? Or for that matter that Malaysia belongs to the Chinese?

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  12. I live in South Africa. Are whites clamouring to leave….yes and no. I would say its more of an orderly retreat. The government of south africa is racist, corrupt and generally incompetent. SA follows the general style of african countries as having high corruption, crime and killings. However there is still sufficient freedom that when you are ethnically cleansed from a job in a big company that you can get or create a job in a small company.
    Many older whites are so called prisoners of africa… you have created a niche for youself, you have a nice house and many friends and family . But the younger generation see only perpetual oppression, race quotas, corruption in government and no future for themselves or their children. the indian population are also now having race quotas imposed on them and also feeling similar discomfort to whites.
    Also what is difficult to describe is the constant cultural barrage in the media that is African. Sounds, accents, music, attitudes lead to a feelings of cultural alienation. Missionaries who I’ve talked talk not of culture shock but of cultural grind…like you are constantly being ground in a mill of noise and strangeness. Some whites love the constant difference, but the majority sit and moan.
    Consequently there is a slow evaporation of family and friends out of the country, firstly with the young professionals who have little to lose, then when all the children have gone, the parents follow.
    Indians and black professionals are also emigrating as they also are losing faith in black governments.

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    A slightly shameless plug, but I’ve uh decided to take up my long dormant blogging and will address what I consider to be the central fallacies of Mr. Derbyshire’s argument there…

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  14. @Priss Factor
    Here is a 4D chess move idea.

    I think it will be good for the Alt Right and Nationalist Whites to push for ending anti-Asian 'affirmative action' in elite colleges. It'd be good for Nationalist Whites if more Asians take over the commanding heights.

    Why?

    As Derbyshire explained, Jews got away with taking over elite institutions because they are another subgroup of the White Race. Though different, many Jews look like other whites, and even ones that look Semitic are part European. So, Jews could play it both ways. As white and non-white.

    In contrast, Asians will always seem Asian. When whites(and even blacks and Mesos) see so many Asians on top, they will be less likely to go along with the Globalist Plan. Globalism will seem more alien, more Ming the Merciless like. Now, Asian elites may reach out to other minorities, but there will be resentment among non-whites as to why ASIANS got so much power and privilege in higher institutions.

    Also, while Jews have been protected the Shoah Cult, a neo-religion in the West, there isn't much to feel guilty about when it comes to Asians. Sure, Chinese-Americans can mention the opium trade, but that was British and Jewish doing than American(even though the Roosevelt clan did make some big money). Filos can bitch about US-Filo War that killed so many, but Filos are such ridiculous clowns and whores. Besides, Filos aren't the ones who are gonna reach the top. As for Japanese-Americans, they've interbred so much that they hardly figure as a group. And even though there was the 'internment' thing, it wasn't exactly the Shoah. There was Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but the Narrative has been that Japan attacked first, was allied with Nazi Germany, and did horrible things in China, so that evens it out. Koreans in America may bring up the Korean War, but the consensus among most doggish Kors is that noble US bailed them out and saved them from communism(even though it was US machinations that turned over northern half to Stalin and his puppet). The Korean Left is now mostly into Diversity and homomania. Chinese-Americans may mention the railroad workers, but even after yrs of KUNG FU series, it didn't do much to make Americans feel much guilt. Asians just don't inspire much guilt because yellow cake is more 'white bread' than white bread. Boring and dull.

    So, nationalist whites don't have to worry much about Asians guilt-tripping them like pushy Jews and nasty blacks have done. Unlike with Jewish elites, nationalist whites(and other non-Asians) can speak truth to Asian power. Notice how even Jewish-run media love to play Yellow Peril tropes.
    So, if Asians are more prominent in elite circles, it can be Open Season on them.

    Also, Asians as new elites will be confused and lost since they are incapable of coming up with new paradigms. When Jews were gaining against Wasps, they not only made the climb but rewrote the narrative, changed the rules, altered the idols, and shifted the themes. This happened across the spectrum, from the 'right' -- Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman -- to the 'left' -- Noam Chomsky and Norman Mailer. And Jews produced prophetic types like Bob Dylan.

    In contrast, all the new Asian elites are boring yellow dogs of PC. They never had an original, individual, or independent thought in their lives. They may be higher-IQ but they are low in PQ or personality quotient. As long as Asians follow the lead of Jews, homos, white cucks, and blacks, they have something to parrot and follow. But as the elites of America, they will be completely lost and befuddled as they are incapable of having visions of their own. It's like Japanese investment in America in the 80s turned into a total disaster as Japanese weren't good at operating outside their cultural milieu.

    As for the Hindus, most Americans find them amusing as Apu on Simpsons, but no one wants to live in Planet of the Apu. The thing is it's game to bash Apu in a way that it's not with Apatow.

    With too many Yellows and People of Dot at upper echelons of power, it will be much easier for Nationalist Whites to wage war on the Globalist Elite project.

    Yeah, I’ve often wondered if the competition from NE Asians and Indians will finally turn American Jews against immigration.

    As always, the questions remains: Is it good for the Jews?

    As I mentioned somewhere, the only Jews that I’ve known that openly questioned (not necessarily opposed but at least questioned) large-scale immigration were the Jews that I know who live in Fairfax County, Virginia.

    Why?

    There are a lot of Chinese, Koreans and Indians in Northern Virginia, and they are pushing hard on all the Jewish fronts. Their kids compete against Jewish kids in school. They are getting into politics. They have ethnic civic and political groups. Basically, they’re acting like Jews, and the Jews don’t like it.

    Stephan Miller grew up in multi-everything Southern California. A lot of people think that his conversion to limited immigration was because he saw what Mexicans did to his state. That’s probably true; however, I’d also suspect that he saw what Chinese and Koreans and Indians did as well.

    Appeal to people’s self-interest and cut a deal with the Jews. Stop immigration. Whites want to keep out competition for the blue-collar jobs while Jews want to keep out competition for the overlord class. Everybody wins.

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    cut a deal with the Jews
     
    Lol no! That never works. Know your history , white man.
    , @Priss Factor
    The Disorientalist Strategy.

    Diversity disorients the West.
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  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yeah, I've often wondered if the competition from NE Asians and Indians will finally turn American Jews against immigration.

    As always, the questions remains: Is it good for the Jews?

    As I mentioned somewhere, the only Jews that I've known that openly questioned (not necessarily opposed but at least questioned) large-scale immigration were the Jews that I know who live in Fairfax County, Virginia.

    Why?

    There are a lot of Chinese, Koreans and Indians in Northern Virginia, and they are pushing hard on all the Jewish fronts. Their kids compete against Jewish kids in school. They are getting into politics. They have ethnic civic and political groups. Basically, they're acting like Jews, and the Jews don't like it.

    Stephan Miller grew up in multi-everything Southern California. A lot of people think that his conversion to limited immigration was because he saw what Mexicans did to his state. That's probably true; however, I'd also suspect that he saw what Chinese and Koreans and Indians did as well.

    Appeal to people's self-interest and cut a deal with the Jews. Stop immigration. Whites want to keep out competition for the blue-collar jobs while Jews want to keep out competition for the overlord class. Everybody wins.

    cut a deal with the Jews

    Lol no! That never works. Know your history , white man.

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    Good point. What was I thinking!

    Never get involved in a land war in Asia and never . . .
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    cut a deal with the Jews
     
    Lol no! That never works. Know your history , white man.

    Good point. What was I thinking!

    Never get involved in a land war in Asia and never . . .

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  17. Groyper says:
    @Art Deco
    Let’s recall also that there were plenty of white liberal South Africans eager to give their country away.

    'Away' to whom? You mean the 30 million other people who actually live there?


    They seemed to have settled into a sort of Malaysian analog: The capable minority (whites in SA, Chinese in Malaysia) are left alone to keep the economy going, while the dumber majority (blacks, bumiputra) get government make-work jobs and opportunities for corruption.

    About 53% of the population of Malaysia is Malay. Shy of 80% of the population of South Africa is black. Just what share of them do you fancy subsist on 'government make-work jobs"?

    “‘Away’ to whom? You mean the 30 million other people who actually live there?”

    To the black tribal invaders who were attracted to the wealth of the nation settled by whites. Or is it that the Zulus just own it because they’re black, despite the fact that the boer were the ones who settled it when it was empty?

    “About 53% of the population of Malaysia is Malay. Shy of 80% of the population of South Africa is black. Just what share of them do you fancy subsist on ‘government make-work jobs’?”

    About what proportion of africans in america subsist on either welfare or corporate/government diversity make-work jobs? A huge proportion, and the blacks in america are both more intelligent than south african blacks and not yet in a position to demand anything they want from whites; and so it seems reasonable to say that an even huger proportion of the blacks with any significant income in south africa are subsisting the same way (hence why south africa’s having trouble keeping the lights on)

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    Groyper is here, among us?
    , @Art Deco
    About what proportion of africans in america subsist on either welfare or corporate/government diversity make-work jobs? A huge proportion,

    We've been over this issue before in these fora. About 5% of the personal income flow to black Americans is accounted for by excess draws on welfare programs for the non-elderly poor. (Their propensity to draw on Social Security and Medicare is lower than the national mean due to them having a lower life expectancy).

    And, no, you could never subtantiate the contention that a 'huge proportion' of American blacks (who make up 11% of the workforce, not 80%) have 'diversity make-work' jobs. Over 80% of those of the black workforce are employed in hourly jobs and over 80% are employed in the private sector.
    , @Art Deco
    To the black tribal invaders who were attracted to the wealth of the nation settled by whites. Or is it that the Zulus just own it because they’re black, despite the fact that the boer were the ones who settled it when it was empty?

    The antique Khoi-San population of the Western Cape is quite thin on the ground. The Bantu populations had by Europe's early modern period reached what was later known as the Transvaal and the Eastern Cape , and were not conquering extant Dutch (or British) settlements.

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  18. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yeah, I've often wondered if the competition from NE Asians and Indians will finally turn American Jews against immigration.

    As always, the questions remains: Is it good for the Jews?

    As I mentioned somewhere, the only Jews that I've known that openly questioned (not necessarily opposed but at least questioned) large-scale immigration were the Jews that I know who live in Fairfax County, Virginia.

    Why?

    There are a lot of Chinese, Koreans and Indians in Northern Virginia, and they are pushing hard on all the Jewish fronts. Their kids compete against Jewish kids in school. They are getting into politics. They have ethnic civic and political groups. Basically, they're acting like Jews, and the Jews don't like it.

    Stephan Miller grew up in multi-everything Southern California. A lot of people think that his conversion to limited immigration was because he saw what Mexicans did to his state. That's probably true; however, I'd also suspect that he saw what Chinese and Koreans and Indians did as well.

    Appeal to people's self-interest and cut a deal with the Jews. Stop immigration. Whites want to keep out competition for the blue-collar jobs while Jews want to keep out competition for the overlord class. Everybody wins.

    The Disorientalist Strategy.

    Diversity disorients the West.

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  19. Vinteuil says:
    @Yan Shen

    100 years ago there were maybe 15 million Ashkenazi Jews worldwide (some large portion of which was not even modern and secular) whereas there are possibly 1.5 billion people in China and several hundred million Chinese outside of China, and many of these people would like to move to the West
     
    .

    Your friend seems to be a bit off by several hundred million in his accounting of the global Chinese population. The official population of China is somewhere between 1.38 to 1.4 billion and according to the Wikipedia, the overseas Chinese population is over 50 million, with the vast majority of that concentrated in Southeast Asia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Chinese

    http://time.com/4569564/international-us-students/


    Well, I suppose we need to define the word "many". For sure non-trivial numbers of Chinese are interested in obtaining a college degree from the United States, with I believe over 320,000 Chinese students studying in the US at both the undergraduate and graduate level. However, increasingly many of them are returning to China post-graduation due to better job opportunities at home.

    https://thepienews.com/news/80-of-chinese-students-return-home/
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2017-03/01/content_28398389.htm


    In 2016, 544,500 Chinese students studied overseas, 144,900 people more than 2012; while the number of returnees in 2016 was 432,500, up 159,600 than 2012, said Xu Tao, head of the international division of the ministry.

    Nearly 80 percent of students overseas went to an English-speaking country in 2016. The United States, the United Kingdom and Australia were the preferred destinations, Xu said.
     


    Also referred to as ‘sea turtles’, the number of Chinese returnees reached 432,500 in 2016, an increase from 409,100 in 2015.

    The appeal of the opportunities available on these students’ return is one reason why they decide to return home, according to Shiny Wang, director of college counseling at Tsinghua University High School in Beijing.

    “There are more and more career opportunities and formalities for international Chinese to take important roles back home”

    “Students believe there are more opportunities for them to find jobs and develop if they come back than staying overseas to do so, which seems more and more difficult,” he told The PIE News.
     

    As for Chinese purchases of housing in countries such as Canada, I suppose your reader may have a point about that. But in general, the numbers of Chinese living in the West are fairly minimal compared to the total global Chinese population.

    I still think that Derbyshire and many of his readers are missing the forest for the trees. It's not Chinese living in the US that Americans should be concerned about. As the rise of industrial Japan proved, we should be far more concerned about how the rise of a population of 1380 million people will affect the future of American competitiveness. In this respect, someone like Eamonn Fingleton is much more on the mark.

    “It’s not Chinese living in the US that Americans should be concerned about. As the rise of industrial Japan proved, we should be far more concerned about how the rise of a population of 1380 million people will affect the future of American competitiveness.”

    Who’s this “we” of whom you speak, kemosabe?

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  20. Vinteuil says:
    @Priss Factor
    Here is a 4D chess move idea.

    I think it will be good for the Alt Right and Nationalist Whites to push for ending anti-Asian 'affirmative action' in elite colleges. It'd be good for Nationalist Whites if more Asians take over the commanding heights.

    Why?

    As Derbyshire explained, Jews got away with taking over elite institutions because they are another subgroup of the White Race. Though different, many Jews look like other whites, and even ones that look Semitic are part European. So, Jews could play it both ways. As white and non-white.

    In contrast, Asians will always seem Asian. When whites(and even blacks and Mesos) see so many Asians on top, they will be less likely to go along with the Globalist Plan. Globalism will seem more alien, more Ming the Merciless like. Now, Asian elites may reach out to other minorities, but there will be resentment among non-whites as to why ASIANS got so much power and privilege in higher institutions.

    Also, while Jews have been protected the Shoah Cult, a neo-religion in the West, there isn't much to feel guilty about when it comes to Asians. Sure, Chinese-Americans can mention the opium trade, but that was British and Jewish doing than American(even though the Roosevelt clan did make some big money). Filos can bitch about US-Filo War that killed so many, but Filos are such ridiculous clowns and whores. Besides, Filos aren't the ones who are gonna reach the top. As for Japanese-Americans, they've interbred so much that they hardly figure as a group. And even though there was the 'internment' thing, it wasn't exactly the Shoah. There was Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but the Narrative has been that Japan attacked first, was allied with Nazi Germany, and did horrible things in China, so that evens it out. Koreans in America may bring up the Korean War, but the consensus among most doggish Kors is that noble US bailed them out and saved them from communism(even though it was US machinations that turned over northern half to Stalin and his puppet). The Korean Left is now mostly into Diversity and homomania. Chinese-Americans may mention the railroad workers, but even after yrs of KUNG FU series, it didn't do much to make Americans feel much guilt. Asians just don't inspire much guilt because yellow cake is more 'white bread' than white bread. Boring and dull.

    So, nationalist whites don't have to worry much about Asians guilt-tripping them like pushy Jews and nasty blacks have done. Unlike with Jewish elites, nationalist whites(and other non-Asians) can speak truth to Asian power. Notice how even Jewish-run media love to play Yellow Peril tropes.
    So, if Asians are more prominent in elite circles, it can be Open Season on them.

    Also, Asians as new elites will be confused and lost since they are incapable of coming up with new paradigms. When Jews were gaining against Wasps, they not only made the climb but rewrote the narrative, changed the rules, altered the idols, and shifted the themes. This happened across the spectrum, from the 'right' -- Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman -- to the 'left' -- Noam Chomsky and Norman Mailer. And Jews produced prophetic types like Bob Dylan.

    In contrast, all the new Asian elites are boring yellow dogs of PC. They never had an original, individual, or independent thought in their lives. They may be higher-IQ but they are low in PQ or personality quotient. As long as Asians follow the lead of Jews, homos, white cucks, and blacks, they have something to parrot and follow. But as the elites of America, they will be completely lost and befuddled as they are incapable of having visions of their own. It's like Japanese investment in America in the 80s turned into a total disaster as Japanese weren't good at operating outside their cultural milieu.

    As for the Hindus, most Americans find them amusing as Apu on Simpsons, but no one wants to live in Planet of the Apu. The thing is it's game to bash Apu in a way that it's not with Apatow.

    With too many Yellows and People of Dot at upper echelons of power, it will be much easier for Nationalist Whites to wage war on the Globalist Elite project.

    This is classic, delirious Priss Factor at his best – except that there are no movie clips!

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  21. https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/38302752/gang-wanted-over-melbourne-beach-attacks/

    Meanwhile Australia keeps on importing African savages.

    Europeans Europeanize, Africans Africanize. Dirt doesn’t change DNA.

    If ‘magic dirt’ matters, then whites who came to the Americas would have acted like Red Savages. But they acted like Europeans.

    Africans come to the West and act like Africans cuz they are Africans and Africanize stuff.

    And blacks in Australia are demonstrating the fact of BAMMAMA or Blacks are more muscular and more aggressive. They feel contempt for the nice slow white folks and rob them and act crazy.

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/38302752/gang-wanted-over-melbourne-beach-attacks/

    Blacks act like this, but whites are so addicted to black music, black sports, and black sex that they are hellbent on race-mixing and turning into Junglo-Saxons.

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    "...the large gang, described as African in appearance, are wanted over a series of robberies and assaults at the beach and surrounding areas on Wednesday night.

    "Witnesses say there were hundreds of youths and police were outnumbered..

    "The police officers handled it the best they could..."

    How pathetic is that?
    , @Vinteuil
    "Their behaviour was just totally unacceptable and I'd call on them to come forward and hand themselves in before we track them down," Inspector Jason Kelly told reporters on Thursday."

    I.e.: their behaviour is just totally accepted, and nobody will be tracking anybody down.
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  22. Vinteuil says:
    @Groyper
    "‘Away’ to whom? You mean the 30 million other people who actually live there?"

    To the black tribal invaders who were attracted to the wealth of the nation settled by whites. Or is it that the Zulus just own it because they're black, despite the fact that the boer were the ones who settled it when it was empty?

    "About 53% of the population of Malaysia is Malay. Shy of 80% of the population of South Africa is black. Just what share of them do you fancy subsist on ‘government make-work jobs'?"

    About what proportion of africans in america subsist on either welfare or corporate/government diversity make-work jobs? A huge proportion, and the blacks in america are both more intelligent than south african blacks and not yet in a position to demand anything they want from whites; and so it seems reasonable to say that an even huger proportion of the blacks with any significant income in south africa are subsisting the same way (hence why south africa's having trouble keeping the lights on)

    Groyper is here, among us?

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  23. Vinteuil says:
    @Priss Factor
    https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/38302752/gang-wanted-over-melbourne-beach-attacks/

    Meanwhile Australia keeps on importing African savages.

    Europeans Europeanize, Africans Africanize. Dirt doesn't change DNA.

    If 'magic dirt' matters, then whites who came to the Americas would have acted like Red Savages. But they acted like Europeans.

    Africans come to the West and act like Africans cuz they are Africans and Africanize stuff.

    And blacks in Australia are demonstrating the fact of BAMMAMA or Blacks are more muscular and more aggressive. They feel contempt for the nice slow white folks and rob them and act crazy.

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/38302752/gang-wanted-over-melbourne-beach-attacks/

    Blacks act like this, but whites are so addicted to black music, black sports, and black sex that they are hellbent on race-mixing and turning into Junglo-Saxons.

    “…the large gang, described as African in appearance, are wanted over a series of robberies and assaults at the beach and surrounding areas on Wednesday night.

    “Witnesses say there were hundreds of youths and police were outnumbered..

    “The police officers handled it the best they could…”

    How pathetic is that?

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  24. Vinteuil says:
    @Priss Factor
    https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/38302752/gang-wanted-over-melbourne-beach-attacks/

    Meanwhile Australia keeps on importing African savages.

    Europeans Europeanize, Africans Africanize. Dirt doesn't change DNA.

    If 'magic dirt' matters, then whites who came to the Americas would have acted like Red Savages. But they acted like Europeans.

    Africans come to the West and act like Africans cuz they are Africans and Africanize stuff.

    And blacks in Australia are demonstrating the fact of BAMMAMA or Blacks are more muscular and more aggressive. They feel contempt for the nice slow white folks and rob them and act crazy.

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/38302752/gang-wanted-over-melbourne-beach-attacks/

    Blacks act like this, but whites are so addicted to black music, black sports, and black sex that they are hellbent on race-mixing and turning into Junglo-Saxons.

    “Their behaviour was just totally unacceptable and I’d call on them to come forward and hand themselves in before we track them down,” Inspector Jason Kelly told reporters on Thursday.”

    I.e.: their behaviour is just totally accepted, and nobody will be tracking anybody down.

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  25. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @TheOldOne
    Derbyshire wasn't an employee of NR, so he could not have been fired.

    Where’d you go? Fell, and can’t get up?

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  26. Art Deco says:
    @Groyper
    "‘Away’ to whom? You mean the 30 million other people who actually live there?"

    To the black tribal invaders who were attracted to the wealth of the nation settled by whites. Or is it that the Zulus just own it because they're black, despite the fact that the boer were the ones who settled it when it was empty?

    "About 53% of the population of Malaysia is Malay. Shy of 80% of the population of South Africa is black. Just what share of them do you fancy subsist on ‘government make-work jobs'?"

    About what proportion of africans in america subsist on either welfare or corporate/government diversity make-work jobs? A huge proportion, and the blacks in america are both more intelligent than south african blacks and not yet in a position to demand anything they want from whites; and so it seems reasonable to say that an even huger proportion of the blacks with any significant income in south africa are subsisting the same way (hence why south africa's having trouble keeping the lights on)

    About what proportion of africans in america subsist on either welfare or corporate/government diversity make-work jobs? A huge proportion,

    We’ve been over this issue before in these fora. About 5% of the personal income flow to black Americans is accounted for by excess draws on welfare programs for the non-elderly poor. (Their propensity to draw on Social Security and Medicare is lower than the national mean due to them having a lower life expectancy).

    And, no, you could never subtantiate the contention that a ‘huge proportion’ of American blacks (who make up 11% of the workforce, not 80%) have ‘diversity make-work’ jobs. Over 80% of those of the black workforce are employed in hourly jobs and over 80% are employed in the private sector.

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    The private sector has affirmative action too. Recall that the average Black with an income of $75,000 has a lower credit rating that the average White with an income of $30,000. That's a clear indication of promoting Blacks well beyond their abilities.
    Pissing away your good fortune: It's a Black thing, you wouldn't understand.
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  27. Art Deco says:
    @Groyper
    "‘Away’ to whom? You mean the 30 million other people who actually live there?"

    To the black tribal invaders who were attracted to the wealth of the nation settled by whites. Or is it that the Zulus just own it because they're black, despite the fact that the boer were the ones who settled it when it was empty?

    "About 53% of the population of Malaysia is Malay. Shy of 80% of the population of South Africa is black. Just what share of them do you fancy subsist on ‘government make-work jobs'?"

    About what proportion of africans in america subsist on either welfare or corporate/government diversity make-work jobs? A huge proportion, and the blacks in america are both more intelligent than south african blacks and not yet in a position to demand anything they want from whites; and so it seems reasonable to say that an even huger proportion of the blacks with any significant income in south africa are subsisting the same way (hence why south africa's having trouble keeping the lights on)

    To the black tribal invaders who were attracted to the wealth of the nation settled by whites. Or is it that the Zulus just own it because they’re black, despite the fact that the boer were the ones who settled it when it was empty?

    The antique Khoi-San population of the Western Cape is quite thin on the ground. The Bantu populations had by Europe’s early modern period reached what was later known as the Transvaal and the Eastern Cape , and were not conquering extant Dutch (or British) settlements.

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  28. Svigor says:

    I still think that Derbyshire and many of his readers are missing the forest for the trees. It’s not Chinese living in the US that Americans should be concerned about. As the rise of industrial Japan proved, we should be far more concerned about how the rise of a population of 1380 million people will affect the future of American competitiveness. In this respect, someone like Eamonn Fingleton is much more on the mark.

    Kato have probrem wiv nuance.

    We can worry about both.

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  29. Svigor says:

    ‘Away’ to whom? You mean the 30 million other people who actually live there?

    Yes, the 30m blacks who clamored to get into the “oppressive” Apartheid SA because of the prosperity Whites created there. Them.

    About 53% of the population of Malaysia is Malay. Shy of 80% of the population of South Africa is black. Just what share of them do you fancy subsist on ‘government make-work jobs”?

    Around 95% of the facts you habitually cite are irrelevant.

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  30. Discard says:
    @Art Deco
    About what proportion of africans in america subsist on either welfare or corporate/government diversity make-work jobs? A huge proportion,

    We've been over this issue before in these fora. About 5% of the personal income flow to black Americans is accounted for by excess draws on welfare programs for the non-elderly poor. (Their propensity to draw on Social Security and Medicare is lower than the national mean due to them having a lower life expectancy).

    And, no, you could never subtantiate the contention that a 'huge proportion' of American blacks (who make up 11% of the workforce, not 80%) have 'diversity make-work' jobs. Over 80% of those of the black workforce are employed in hourly jobs and over 80% are employed in the private sector.

    The private sector has affirmative action too. Recall that the average Black with an income of $75,000 has a lower credit rating that the average White with an income of $30,000. That’s a clear indication of promoting Blacks well beyond their abilities.
    Pissing away your good fortune: It’s a Black thing, you wouldn’t understand.

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    That’s a clear indication of promoting Blacks well beyond their abilities.

    No, it's a clear indication that affluent blacks tend not to be conscientious about paying their bills on time and have a low propensity to save money. That's a different community preference map at work.
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  31. pyrrhus says:

    Derb’s theory that South African whites are not under threat (despite the continual murder of white farming families) is pretty delusional in light of what happened in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) in the last 40 years, and the avowed hostility of SA’s corrupt black government to all whites….Indeed, there will probably be no white farmers in another 20 years, and SA will become a severe basket case, but America could use some skilled and cohesive immigrants, for a change…

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  32. Art Deco says:
    @Discard
    The private sector has affirmative action too. Recall that the average Black with an income of $75,000 has a lower credit rating that the average White with an income of $30,000. That's a clear indication of promoting Blacks well beyond their abilities.
    Pissing away your good fortune: It's a Black thing, you wouldn't understand.

    That’s a clear indication of promoting Blacks well beyond their abilities.

    No, it’s a clear indication that affluent blacks tend not to be conscientious about paying their bills on time and have a low propensity to save money. That’s a different community preference map at work.

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  33. How did Deb miss that the entire point of Unz’s long article is that TODAY high Jewish numbers at Harvard represents something other than high IQs?

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