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I get queries and sometimes complaints from listeners asking me why I don’t give more time to the Special Prosecutor investigation, the intelligence-service scandals, Mrs. Clinton’s shenanigans and possible crimes in the 2016 campaign, and so on.

I also get listeners asking me—always, I must say, politely—where I stand in the feud between our President and his Attorney General Jeff Sessions. I’m not sure that “feud” is the right word. Certainly the President has strong feelings about Sessions and has expressed those feelings with his customary pith and vigor. Jeff, however, has kept shtum, unless I missed something. It takes two to tango, and also to feud.

Whatever: There is a real, serious disagreement there. Arguments on both sides are substantive and nontrivial. You can make a case for Trump’s side; you can make a case for Sessions. So which side am I on?

Answer: I’m with Sessions. I understand the arguments on the other side; and they are, as I said, nontrivial. You can certainly make the case that in recusing himself from anything to do with the Special Counsel, and failing to let the President know his position in a timely-enough manner, Sessions was being too punctilious.

I’m with Jeff none the less because of the underlying issues: on the one side, Special Prosecutor Mueller’s efforts to reverse the result of the 2016 election; on the other side the A-G’s firming up and enforcing our country’s immigration laws.

Permit me to draw an analogy.

Eighty years ago, China was in a sorry state. The titular government of the country had lost key parts of its territoryto Japan; and in other parts, Mao Tse-tung’s Communists were challenging the central government’s authority.

Chiang Kai-shek, China’s military dictator, made it known that eradicating the Communists was his main priority. When people responded, “What about the Japanese?” he had a stock response. “The Japanese,” he would say, “are a disease of the skin; the Communists are a disease of the heart.”

I feel the same way about those two underlying issues. I can certainly see the President’s point of view. Mueller and his squads, aided of course by their Main Stream Media allies, must be as much fun for the President to live with as a cloud of mosquitoes at a summer picnic. They are, though, I believe, a disease of the skin. They can’t kill our Republic, or transform it into something its citizens don’t want it to be.

Our foolish immigration policies, and lackadaisical enforcement even of the feeble laws we have, can do those things. Our immigration folly is a disease of the heart.

ORDER IT NOW

Jeff Sessions knew this—and spoke fearlessly about it, and tried to legislate about it—when he was in the Senate. Now he’s at the Justice Department, he has done more to halt the creeping catastrophe of demographic replacement than any public official of the past half century. Read Neil Munro’s August 27th piece at Breitbart.com: Six Reasons Why AG Jeff Sessions Is Trump’s Hammer In The Fight Against Illegal Immigration.

The rumor going round is that Trump wants to fire Jeff Sessions after the November midterms. [Donald Trump just gave a GIANT hint about when he'll fire Jeff Sessions, by Chris Cillizza, CNN, August 30, 2018] The only way that would not be a disaster for the U.S.A. would be if Trump were then to appoint Sessions Secretary of Homeland Security and give the Justice Department to Kris Kobach.

To dismiss Sessions and put some milquetoast seat-warmer in his place, just for some leverage over Mueller, would be to turn all the government’s efforts towards fighting a disease of the skin while leaving a disease of the heart unattended to continue its silent, deadly progress.

2010-12-24dl[1]John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjectsfor all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT(also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  1. Amen says:

    People who side with Jeff Sessions are short-sighted, missing the forest for the trees.

    What Sessions is after, illegal immigration, is the symptom not the disease.

    The reason immigration has become such a big problem is because of the Deep State. The only way to really fix immigration is to defeat the Deep State. Rod Rosenstein is the face of Deep State, and Sessions has time and again stood up for him, which is a huge mistake. Bringing down the Deep State will bring down not just Rosenstein and the whole farcical Mueller investigation, but will also bring down the Clintons and their Russian bribery case with Uranium One, Loretta Lynch and her meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac in AZ, Susan Rice’s illegal unmasking of US citizens and Obama’s illegal wiretapping of Trump Tower. It’ll bring down the entire Deep State apparatus and send the whole DNC running for cover, leaving Trump and the real GOP to take down immigration.

    Stop being such a short-sighted myopic moron and look at the big picture. Sessions MUST go! He doesn’t have the stamina to take down the Deep State, which means the Deep State will take down Trump. When Trump goes, the Deep State will have won the war and you can forget any fight at all on immigration. Pence is RINO and part of the Deep State, he’ll have wide open borders like Kasich.

    • Replies: @Parsifal
    , @Realist
    , @SMK
  2. Rational says:

    TRUMP—PLEASE STOP TWEETING!! SESSIONS FOR PRESIDENT.

    Sir, I agree with you.

    If Trump has any issues with Sessions, he must invite him over for lunch and discuss these things in private. To publicly attack your own AG in tweets is inappropriate, and dangerous, and will end up hurting Trump.

    Sessions is doing a good job overall. He is the only AG who has enforced immigration laws so well.

    Sessions for President 2024.

  3. MEH 0910 says:

    Replacing Rod Rosenstein is a good idea that Jeff Sessions doesn’t support:

    Sessions told White House that Rosenstein’s firing could prompt his departure, too
    April 20

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions recently told the White House he might have to leave his job if President Trump fired his deputy, Rod J. Rosenstein, who oversees the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the exchange.

    Sessions made his position known in a phone call to White House counsel Donald McGahn last weekend, as Trump’s fury at Rosenstein peaked after the deputy attorney general approved the FBI’s raid April 9 on the president’s personal attorney Michael Cohen.
    ……
    Another person familiar with the exchange said Sessions did not intend to threaten the White House but rather wanted to convey the untenable position that Rosenstein’s firing would put him in.

    Sessions defends Rosenstein after move to impeach him
    July 26, 2018

    “My deputy, Rod Rosenstein, is highly capable. I have the highest confidence in him,” Sessions said during an appearance in Boston, before essentially thumbing his nose at the 11 Republicans who launched the effort.

    “What I would like Congress to do is to focus on some of the legal challenges that are out there,” including illegal immigration, he added, Reuters reported.

  4. Parsifal says:

    “Chiang Kai-shek, China’s military dictator, made it known that eradicating the Communists was his main priority. When people responded, “What about the Japanese?” he had a stock response. “The Japanese,” he would say, “are a disease of the skin; the Communists are a disease of the heart.””

    So, how did it go for Chiang? Exactly. And it will go just as well for Trump if he takes Derbyshire’s dumb advice.

    • Agree: Buckwheat
    • Replies: @36 ulster
    , @Coemgen
  5. Parsifal says:
    @Amen

    If Trump is deposed, Pence could fire Sessions on day one of his presidency to loud cheers of the swamp. And then Derbyshire will scratch his head thinking “how could this have happened”.

  6. Realist says:
    @Amen

    He doesn’t have the stamina to take down the Deep State, which means the Deep State will take down Trump.

    Trump is part of the Deep State….otherwise explain Bolton.

  7. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Is anyone else left with the impression that Mr. Derbyshire is at least choking on a little red pill about RussiaGate? A few weeks ago, he was derided over his sheepy “Putin is a thug,” etc. He pushed back a week later, but I don’t see any of that gulling reflected here. (And no cheap race chum, either — this column seems to be heartfelt.)

    Mr. Derbyshire still has overthought this into a false tactical choice, though. Read the first two paragraphs. Think about each. Now read the third:

    “Whatever: There is a real, serious disagreement there. Arguments on both sides are substantive and nontrivial. You can make a case for Trump’s side; you can make a case for Sessions. So which side am I on?”

    This is non sequitur — the first two paragraphs state no “disagreement,” and aren’t necessarily opposing “sides.” Why does Mr. Derbyshire apparently think that, if he wants Mr. Sessions to remain Attorney General, then he must accept the rotten Establishment’s election meddling against Mr. and now President Trump? The only explanation apparent to me is that he accepts the premise that Mr. Sessions, although nominally “recused,” is part of the coup. That may be so, but Mr. Derbyshire should make that clear.

    Let’s hope that more critical thinking will continue to overcome his ingrained British fealty and immigrant’s sense of gratitude, allowing Mr. Derbyshire to see that no one in Washington actually cares about the common people of this country.

  8. @Realist

    If you want to know what the deep state thinks of Trump, go back and re-run the McCain “funeral.”

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Per/Norway
  9. As commenter JimB pointed out in another thread, look at what happens when Trump blasts Sessions: liberals and RINOs rush to Sessions’ defense, under the “whatever Trump wants we want the opposite” theory.

    So now they’re insisting, demanding that Sessions not be fired. The same guy they previously called a monster for deporting MS-13.

    In other words, Trump is employing some 4-D chess here to get liberals to support a crackerjack deportation machine. Here’s one of the top-rated comment from the ultra-liberal Boston Globe today:

    Bring this criminal of a President down now. I challenge any Trump supporter to defend our sitting President’s attack’s on his AG for upholding the law. These two Congressmen are facing serious federal charges not just made up accusations. This is not ok.

    LOL

    • Replies: @A
    , @Peter Akuleyev
  10. That’s very good discussion – both in the posts and the comments (so far!). I don’t have much else to say about the specifics. The reason is that my resistance to TV (no, it’s not futile!) means that I have heard squat-all about the back-and-forth on this Russian meddling BS. Really, since I wrote Nothing but Distractions over 2 1/2 months ago, I have heard nothing about this Rosenstein and the special counsel, etc. – till just now.

    I can get the news I want to read, because it’s important, off the web. None of this crap going on would be a factor if people didn’t humor these people behind the idiot box!

    “You’re burying your head in the sand”, I know will be the replies (if any). Nah, the Lyin Press is only supported by millions of American’s eyeballs. Leave it behind, people! As to Trump, he should take my advice, already given once for no charge: get the best lawyers to fight this stuff with everything they’ve got. Delegate it, and take care of what we elected you for. The more you tweet/talk on-and-on about it, the longer this infotainment will go on, distracting the living hell out of you. Quit it – do your job.

    Again, no charge.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  11. Now, I’ve got this song in my head from my words “I get all the news I need …”. It’s a great song, so I don’t mind spreading it around into other people’s heads this morning. Plus, these guys are true New Yorkers, as is Mr. Derbyshire by this point:

    One of the more obscure tunes from Simon & Garfunkel:

    “I get the news I need from on the weather report.
    Oh, I can gather all the news I need on the weather report …”

    • Agree: Digital Samizdat
  12. A says:

    Hiring Sessions was the biggest mistake Trump ever made. If he had had an AG who actually has balls or brains, Rosenstein never would’ve been hired, and the Mueller investigation never would’ve happened.

    At this point all I can conclude is that Pence the RINO Deep State Ziocon is pulling a soft coup on Trump, and Sessions is in on it.

    Derbyshire misses the boat big time on this.

  13. A says:
    @Bragadocious

    Trump’s loyal subjects will insist he’s playing 4D chess (or is it up to 64D now?) until the day he’s impeached.

  14. A says:
    @Realist

    Trump’s ties to the Deep State is through Javanka. His daughter married into the family of Ziocon devils, which means he’s in bed with them too. Unfortunately they are just deep enough to get him in bed with Zionists, not deep enough to save him from the witch hunters.

    • Replies: @Realist
  15. @Bragadocious

    You may have a point. There is no question that under normal times Sessions would be Public Enemy No. 1 for Liberals, but he is getting plenty of cover from Trump. If the Dems win the House in November, they won’t be able to take Sessions on the way you would expect, they’ll probably be insisting that he stay.

  16. SMK says: • Website
    @Amen

    Exactly right. How would firing Rosenstein, Mueller (a Trump-hating John McCain Republican) and his gang of Trump-hating democratic inquisitors, thus ending a witch-hunt that in 17-18 months has not unearthed a scintilla of evidence of “collusion” with Russia or “obstruction of justice” that warrants the impeachment of Trump, and appointing a “special counsel” to investigate the real crimes of Hillary Clinton, Comey, McCabe, and their cabal of collaborators, prevent Sessions from enforcing immigration law? Why can’t he do both? The impeachment of Trump will be the end of Sessions and immigration reform, however timid and limited. There will be no wall, no end to illegal immigration, no reduction of nonwhite legal immigration. It’s even possible, given the power of the left and the cowardice of republicans, that Hillary Clinton might become President.

    Sessions is a disgrace. He might even want to see Trump impeached. Kris Kobach should have been appointed Attorney General.

  17. Realist says:
    @A

    Regardless of how, Trump is part of Deep State.

  18. Realist says:
    @Quartermaster

    If you want to know what the deep state thinks of Trump, go back and re-run the McCain “funeral.”

    That doesn’t explain Bolton. How do you know the Deep State ‘hatred ‘ of Trump isn’t subterfuge?

  19. 36 ulster says:
    @Parsifal

    Chiang got the diagnosis right, but the operation failed.

  20. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Not only TV, but big newspapers, Associated Press, network radio (including and especially NPR), and all other Establishment media.

    Any reasoning, intelligent person can easily figure out that Washington couldn’t care less about common people in this country, much less anywhere else. Why, then, do most people still stick these BSyringes into their eyes and ears? I think the answer is that most of our friends and family want to be told what to think, and will do so eagerly if assured by these liars that they are part of Indispensable Nation and that Uncle Sam will forever keep all the monsters under the bed.

    The awakening will be rude.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  21. Realist says:

    Read Neil Munro’s August 27th piece at Breitbart.com: Six Reasons Why AG Jeff Sessions Is Trump’s Hammer In The Fight Against Illegal Immigration.

    The hammer in the fight against illegal immigration is the wall….which is not close to being built.

    To dismiss Sessions and put some milquetoast seat-warmer in his place,…

    Milquetoast is an apt description of Sessions. Trump should replace Sessions with someone with balls and brains that would fight both, a disease of the skin and a disease of the heart.

  22. In this case the skin v. heart is a distinction without a difference. Mueller’s goal is to end the Trump presidency, either through impeachment, indictment or resignation, and if he succeeds, then the cause of immigration restriction will be as fully discredited as Trump himself.

    Virtually all Democrats are already defacto supporters of open borders, and establishment Republicans who are funded by the cheap labor lobbies (i.e., the vast majority of Republicans) will run away from his immigration position for the foreseeable future and bury their snouts back in the open borders trough.

    There will be no spokesmen of substance ready, willing and able to pick up the Trump banner and move it forward. Immigration restriction will be dead letter for a generation. As a result, in this case your disease of the skin will in fact result in a disease of the heart for heritage Americans.

  23. MBlanc46 says:

    Taking strategic advice from Chiang Kai-shek might not be the wisest policy.

  24. Derb, you are in serious denial as to the strength of the movement to get rid of Trump and his inability to fight it.

    When Trump is gone, what Sessions may have done about immigration will be meaningless.

    Both Trump and Sessions have acted weakly in the face of “Deep State”and media machinations.

    A pox on both.

  25. @anonymous

    Yep. By “Lyin’ Press”, I meant all of those, #340.

    Great comment.

  26. @Quartermaster

    nah, that is just gaslighting and part of the narrative so you sheeples believe you are “winning”. There have been NO changes in policies and does more bombing of innocent children then your last monkey in chief+ all your false flag bs in Syria, terror in Africa and Asia. Have you forgotten his campaign promises about no more wars and world police? But i guess as long as “your team” won you muricans feelz that you have to support them even as they pull your pants down and lube you up with spit. Keep drinking that kool-aid and wave your god damn flag bc that is “real patriotic” and what makes you murican eh?
    you guys need to understand that your feelz and “personal truths” have no connection to reality and truth.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  27. …immigration a disease of the heart… Derbyshire, your diseased heart is a perfect example of our immigration problem. Your scribbling about China – a second-rate, totalitarian country, as an example of our problems with Sleepy Jeff Sessions? Your heart disease was caused by marrying a Chinese woman and having a Chinese family and the fatty plaques are now in your brain.

    Sessions is a total cuck. He has a daughter who married a Korean and has Korean offspring. Sessions fears being called a racist more than anything. He has not prosecuted Hilligula, Tony Pedastery, Hummus Abedin, all Democrats, because he is a total cuck. He’s done a little on immigratino but he could do more.

    Here’s a youtube with Judge Jeanine Pirro who makes good points about what is wrong with Sessions.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  28. Hail says: • Website

    Why hasn’t anyone made a move on Birthright Citizenship? Sessions? Trump? Even a tweet? Anything would be preferable to nothing.

  29. @Per/Norway

    you guys need to understand that your feelz and “personal truths” have no connection to reality and truth.

    That may well be true, but it’s equally true that our votes have no effect on government policy either. Wasn’t the government doing the same thing under Obama? Bush? Clinton? So quit blaming the ‘Murrican’ people for the crimes of Washington.

  30. anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    Attila! What a surprise. Who knew you’d be here, purveying your usual, what shall we call it,

  31. Sam Reno says:
    @Realist

    I know this much.Trump was flattered Sessions was in his corner so early in the campaign.
    Never made sense but reading this article in Sotn might explain what happened.
    JEFF SESSIONS: A Bush plant, SES pawn and agent of Deep State

    http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=102766

    • Replies: @Realist
  32. Anonymous[861] • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    Your heart disease was caused by worshiping a foreign Jewish “King of Israel” (John 1:49) and hoping to live forever in the foreign capital city Jerusalem you consider “Holy” (Rev. 21:2) and the fatty plaques are now in your brain.

    Jewsus’ daddy Joseph was a total cuck. His fiance Mary spread her legs, got pregnant not by him, and she had the gall to claim “its a miracle!” But Joseph kept the knocked up slut because he is a total cuck.

    And since worshiping foreign cuckspawn from middle-eastern Asia eats on you 24/7, you have to lash out at the Derb.

  33. Chiang Kai-shek got run completely out of China, so his plan sucked, and his analogy is stupid, because melanoma is as deadly as any other cancer, smallpox is a disease of the skin, and for that matter, staph can kill too.

    And please to be explaining exactly how firing Sessions would suddenly halt these changes to immigration. Is there no other man to rid us of these troublesome illegals? Could there not be someone *gasp* who is even better for the role?

  34. Cyrano says:

    If communism was disease of the heart, then capitalism has to be a brain tumor. The only thing sustaining capitalism in the last 70+ years is propaganda. They even renamed capitalism into “democracy” in order not to offend the sensitive ears of the great unwashed.

    That’s not the first time that trick has been played. The Nazis tried it first. They renamed capitalism into national socialism. Socialism my a**. If Nazism was “national” socialism, then multiculturalism has to be international socialism. For those of you who don’t know what socialism means – it means that everybody is treated equally. Which is the official mantra of multiculturalism. By the way, neither Nazism nor multiculturalism delivered on their promises, but that’s the beauty of propaganda – it’s not about delivering, it’s about fooling the idiots.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @attilathehen
  35. AB says:

    Trump needs to fire Jeff Sessions ASAP and bring on Kris Kobach as his new AG. Kobach had Samuel Huntington as a mentor at Harvard, can’t go wrong with the guy.

    Kobach will know what to do with rat weasels like Rod Rosenstein and Robert Mueller, and will do some real house cleaning at FBI, CIA and DHS so we can return to being a nation of laws.

    If Kobach becomes governor of KS, then pick Mark Krikorian or Heather MacDonald.

  36. Wasn’t it Derb who said owners/managers should be able to fire employees at any time for any or no reason?

    Maybe it was someone else. If it was Derb this is probably the second stupidest thing he has ever said.

    It’s not Trump vs. Sessions. It’s Mueller vs. Trump and Sessions.

    If Mueller wins the immigration battle is lost.

    I didn’t read the thread. My apologies to whom ever pointed this out first.

  37. Anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    Sessions appointed someone to investigate his own boss, Trump, practically on day one of the new presidency, solely upon spurious charges of Russian collusion. Two long years of dragged out investigation have proved there is nothing to this Russian collusion nonsense. Yet Sessions, who was so eager to appoint an investigator, absolutely refuses to shut down the three-ring circus despite the fact that there is now a lot of evidence that the whole thing was a plot against Trump, and Trump is innocent.

    Yet Sessions, despite a mountain of evidence pointing at massive Democratic corruption under Obama’s administration, refuses to investigate any of it at all. We know now that no one in government even looked beyond the surface at Weiner’s laptop, or has bothered looking into Chinese hacking of Hillary’s unsecured emails, or looked in the Uranium deal, or looked into the IRS targeting right-wing groups, etc., etc., ad nauseam.

    Nothing, nada, from Sessions about any of this.

    Sessions needs to be fired, period. Anyone who defends him is severely lacking in good judgment. I can’t think of a worse man who have on your own side. His ‘own goals’ against us are a wonder to behold.

  38. @Cyrano

    For those of you who don’t know what socialism means – it means that everybody is treated equally.

    Tell that to the kulaks.

    Socialism means everybody owns everything equally. Good luck with that.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  39. Corvinus says:

    “Special Prosecutor Mueller’s efforts to reverse the result of the 2016 election; on the other side the A-G’s firming up and enforcing our country’s immigration laws.”

    Actually, Mueller is investigating an unbelievably complex case involving Constitutional crimes most likely committed by Trump and his team. Derbyshire, and others, are in denial of what the evidence has demonstrated thus far.

  40. Cyrano says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Tell that to the kulaks.

    No, I think you should be the one that breaks the bad news to the kulaks, you seem to understand things better.

    Logic is not your strongest suit – is it? The kulaks got the short end of the stick precisely because they didn’t wanted to be treated equally – they wanted to be treated better.

    If everybody owns everything equally – what other possibilities of unequal treatment are there? Do you separate gay and lesbian kulaks from the straight ones or what?

  41. Amen says:

    Trump is being sabotaged by Deep State deep inside the WH. An anonymous op-ed from a “senior WH staff” appeared in the Jew York Times attempting to paint a picture of Trump being too capricious (read: unfit) to be president, and threatened to invoke the 25th amendment to have him removed:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-05/nyt-publishes-anonymous-op-ed-saboteur-inside-trump-white-house

    It is clear from the writing that this treasonous rat is a RINO neocon stooge, either someone very close to Pence or Pence himself.

    Pence is pulling a soft coup on Trump and Sessions is in on it. Short-sighted fools like Derbyshire need to wake the hell up. If Trump goes, we will get endless wars and wide open borders from Pence.

    • Replies: @Amen
    , @WorkingClass
  42. Amen says:
    @Amen

    My hunch about Pence was right:

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/09/05/glenn-greenwald-white-house-coward-behind-anonymous-op-ed-part-of-unelected-cabal/

    Hotly debated on Twitter was the author’s use of the word “lodestar,” which pops up frequently in speeches by Vice President Mike Pence. Could the anonymous figure be someone in Pence’s orbit? Other reporters argued that the term may have been included to throw people off.

    Pence is John McCain by a different name. He’s been to Israel 8 times. In one of those trips he dismissed all the Arabs in the room then told Israeli officials “the American people stand with Israel”. In his VP debate he said he would go to war with Russia over Syria.

    Trump made the huge mistake of picking Pence as his VP, no doubt good advice from Ziocon Jared Kushner. He made an even bigger mistake putting Pence in charge of setting up his cabinet. It was Pence who persuaded Trump to keep Ryan, tried to get Trump to hire Mitt Romney for Secretary of State, brought on Nikki Haley, John Bolton, Mattis, Kelly, Sessions, Rod Rosenstein, Christopher Wray, Kristjen Nielsen, the WS Jews from Goldman Sachs (Mnuchin, Gary Cohn), both of his Labor Secretary picks Andrew Puzder then Alexander Acosta were uber pro-immigration.

    Pence has surrounded Trump with a cabinet full of RINO Deep State neocon stooges like himself. This soft coup has been going on since Day 1.

  43. Amen says:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lodestar-mike-pence-anonymous-new-york-times_us_5b905dd5e4b0511db3dec1e1

    One Word Has People Convinced Mike Pence Wrote Anonymous New York Times Op-Ed
    The unidentified member of the in-house “resistance” uses “lodestar,” an unusual word the vice president likes to say.

    …Scott Roos, a former college classmate of Pence’s, said the future vice president once said that “God told him he would be president,” according to CNN.

    Theoretically, he could have written the op-ed to jump-start the dream.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  44. @Cyrano

    “If communism was disease of the heart, then capitalism has to be a brain tumor. The only thing sustaining capitalism in the last 70+ years is propaganda.”

    What kind of economic plans do you have?

    • Replies: @Cyrano
  45. Cyrano says:
    @attilathehen

    I don’t think you understand what the issue here is, pal. If capitalism is such a perfection that cannot be improved upon – as you seem to believe – then why did someone decided to improve on such perfection by adding multiculturalism to it? Multiculturalism is a stupid propaganda stunt, same as National “Socialism” was. Neither of those 2 offer any real improvements on capitalism.

  46. @Amen

    Why does a prominent Never Trumper submit an editorial to the New York Times confessing that he is a saboteur? What does he stand to gain? What does he risk losing? If not aid and comfort for the Democrats what is the motivation? Anonymous virtue signaling?

    I think the New York Times is lying about the source.

    • Replies: @Amen
  47. Realist says:
    @Sam Reno

    That doesn’t explain Bolton.

  48. anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Amen

    Pence is too obvious and too smart to have written it. Look over at iSteve for more compelling speculation.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/accused-sex-murderer-of-mollie-tibbetts-cristhian-rivera-worked-as-john-budd/#comment-2502633 ff

    • Replies: @Amen
  49. Amen says:
    @anonymous

    I’m convinced it’s Pence who wrote it. Mattis would not implicate his friend this way by using the one word that he knew will get everyone thinking Pence. Mattis also does not want war with Russia, Pence does. Same goes for John Kelly.

    Who benefits the most when Trump is impeached? Pence. He is also the only person in the WH who cannot be fired. He’s getting impatient. The Russian collusion shit show is getting nowhere.

    Pence-Kelly-Mattis form a powerful Triumvirate in the WH. They are the ones really calling all the shots. That’s why Trump still can’t get out of Syria despite publicly declaring he wanted to, the NK deal will never happen because Pence-Mattis-Bolton want Kim Jong Un out, and we are facing war with Iran because Pence is the biggest Israel stooge like Nikki Haley and John Bolton, both hired by Pence.

    Derbyshire and Ann Coulter really do not understand how alone Trump is. He is surrounded by Deep State agents planted throughout the WH and his cabinet by Pence.

    Pence is relatively strong on illegal immigration and wanted to end birthright citizenship which is good, but he has said nothing about cutting legal immigration and I fear he will let the H1b’s run loose in the country, possibly even expanding the program. Trump could’ve helped himself by not wavering nearly as much as he had on immigration. He’s actually supporting DACA and still would not cancel any of Obama’s illegal EO’s on immigration.

    Pence is also too much of a war hawk for my comfort level. He’ll go to war with Iran, Syria, Russia and NK as soon as he takes over.

  50. Amen says:
    @WorkingClass

    I think the New York Times is lying about the source.

    I don’t think they are. I think Pence wrote it. This soft coup has been a long time coming, planned since Day 1 by Deep State Pence.

    We can only pray that Pence will be strong on immigration as he goes to war with everybody and his mother over Israel.

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  51. @Amen

    Thanks for coming back Amen.

    Maybe you can help me out. How does this letter to the NYT advance the cause of the coup against President Trump? I confess. I just don’t get it. I think it hurts Mueller in the court of public opinion. Mueller has to show that Trump is a criminal. There is no law against being a raving slobbering idiot. And I can’t see how it helps Pence when he is found out.

    I can see how this would help make the case for the 25th amendment. And that seems to be where Woodward is going. To bad his pal Bernstein just disgraced himself. If we are back to the 25th that must mean Mueller has failed. That would be good news.

    So I’m just guessing about the Times. But we know the Times hates Trump. And we know the Times is a liar.

    By the way – if Pence or anybody else leads the United States in a war against Iran, Russia and China immigration will be the least of our problems.

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  52. Coemgen says:
    @Parsifal

    So, how did it go for Chiang? Exactly. And it will go just as well for Trump if he takes Derbyshire’s dumb advice.

    How’d it go for mainland China—by not taking Derbyshire’s “dumb advice?”

  53. Amen says:
    @WorkingClass

    Here’s a list of WH officials who have denied writing this op-ed:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/senior-trump-officials-deny-writing-anonymous-critical-piece-1536237773?mod=hp_lead_pos1

    Briefly it includes Pence, Mattis, Mike Pompeo, Jeff Sessions, Kristjen Nielsen, Sarah Sanders, Mnuchin, Acostas.

    But three other people are conspicuously absent from the list: John Kelly, Nikki Haley and John Bolton. I don’t think Haley has the balls or the brains to do it, unless she was goaded into it by some “advisor” or by blackmail. Bolton is a strong possibility. John Kelly is also highly suspect at this point. However, even though Pence has denied it, I still think he is the most likely source for the following reasons:

    Aside from the “lodestar” clue, the op-ed said that “the root of the problem is the President’s amorality…”, that he is not moored to any principle(or the writer’s personal principle). Pence is a die hard neocon and a highly religious man who once said he would not dine with a woman who is not his wife. One might question how he could’ve partnered up with a guy like Trump who hooked up with a porn star while his 3rd wife was giving birth to their son at the hospital. Pence probably figured that the only way a religious neocon like him could become president again after W is by riding on the coattail of a wildcard like Trump, help him get elected, then get him impeached.

    There is no reason why Jeff Sessions should sit on the sideline and watch his deputy Rosenstein destroy Trump. He is being coerced. Pence was the man who recruited him, as well as Rosenstein. I have been saying for nearly a year that Pence is pulling a soft coup on Trump, judging by the people he recruited into Trump’s WH and Cabinet, and now it is out in the open.

    As for how it helps Mueller, this paragraph:

    On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  54. AB says:

    The NYTimes has just told the whole world that Trump was right all along, that a Deep State does indeed exist, that this secret cabal is actively working to subvert all of Trump’s agenda, run the country as it sees fit, and is trying to overthrow a popularly elected president. Further, the NYTimes has just implicated itself as being complicit in this act of high treason.

  55. @Amen

    Thanks Amen. Very helpful indeed. Now it is clear that the new plan is the 25th. The NYT article, the Woodward leak and now Elisabeth Warren calling for the 25th. I was wondering what part of his Cabinet would go along.

    I think it means Mueller has failed. This is plan B. Seems like a long shot to me. I don’t want to think about plan C.

  56. Hunsdon says:
    @Realist

    ” inside the tent pissing out.”

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  57. Realist says:
    @Hunsdon

    Not a logical explanation.

  58. anastasia says:

    What is the author saying except that he has no objection to the Department of Justice being used as a political weapon of the Democrats, but does have objection to the Department of Justice being used as a political weapon of the Republicans.

    The very point is that Jeff Sessions is a milquetoast. He is allowing it, protecting the people who are using it as a political weapon, and allowing them to continue to use the office as a political weapon.

  59. KenH says:

    The problem with Sessions is that he’s practically recused himself from his damn job because he said he didn’t want to politicize the DOJ. Then he defers to (((Rod Rosenstein))) who’s a left wing Democrat party political apparatchik who’s done precisely what Sessions was trying to avoid which is politicize the ongoing investigations while not pursuing investigations into illegality by Hillary Clinton, (((Debbie whatshername Shultz))) and other leading Democrats.

    There also needs to be an investigation into the fact that (((Diane Feinstein))) had a Chinese spy working for her for so long, but since she’s a Jewish Democrat fellow Jew Rosey will let her off the hook and she gets to ride merrily off into the sunset.

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