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Europe Dithers As Invaders Pour In
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A specter is haunting Europe—the specter of mass illegal immigration from the benighted regions to Europe’s south. There are parallels with the current situation in the Western hemisphere, but there are important differences too.

As dire and disgraceful as our own federal government’s insouciance towards mass illegal immigration has been, Europe’s danger is even greater, and Europe’s failure to confront the issue therefore more deplorable.

Consider the numbers. The three countries contributing the most to the Children’s Crusade coming in across our southern border—Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras—are home to 29 million people. If the entire populations of those three countries decamped to the USA our population would increase only nine percent.

Many more than three countries are contributing to the human flood into Europe across the Mediterranean and through Turkey. The five most commonly mentioned in news reports and the Eurostat databases are Syria, Eritrea, Somalia, Afghanistan, and Sudan–homelands for a total of 106 million people. If they all moved into the 28-nation European Union, the EU population, currently 506 million, would increase by 21 percent.

Extend that list to the next five most-mentioned nations— Algeria, DR Congo, Pakistan, South Sudan, and Mali—and you just added 340 million potential immigrants, taking the 21 percent up to 88 percent.

And you can go on adding to the list for quite a while without reaching any countries less messed-up and poor than those of Central America.

I continued my arithmetic for just ten more countries— Central African Republic, Senegal, Gambia, Libya, Niger, Egypt, Yemen, Nigeria, Chad, Iraq—without even getting close to Guatemalan levels of stability and prosperity (Nigeria! Iraq!), for a total top-20 source-nations population of 826 million. If they all took to the boats, EU population would nearly triple.

Thus, while both the USA and the EU live figuratively in the shadow of dams with vast numbers of wretched people in dysfunctional nations backed up behind them, the EU’s dam is far wider and higher than ours, the shadow correspondingly deeper.

The wealth gap is greater over there, too. GDPs per capita for Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras are 10, 14, and 9 percent of the US figure. Compare Syria, Eritrea, Somalia, Afghanistan, and Sudan at 15, 3, 2, 3, and 8 percent of the EU average—and that Syria figure is from 2011, before the civil war.

Africa as a whole, even with oil-rich Nigeria and Angola and still-functioning South Africa, is far poorer than Latin America.

According to the World Bank, average gross national income per capita in the EU was $33,906 in 2012, while in sub-Saharan Africa it was $1,547.

[ Refugees Shouldn’t Be Italy's Burden Alone” by Benjamin Ward, Wall Street Journal, July 8, 2014.]

That’s an overall ratio of 4.6 percent. In other words, while the average US citizen is four or five times as rich as the average Latin American, the average EU citizen is twenty-two times as rich as the average sub-Saharan African.

There’s Third World, and then there’s Third World.

The demographic changes of recent decades have been a tremendous revolution in world affairs, largely unnoticed by ordinary citizens in the West, preoccupied as we naturally are with our work, families, and national political concerns.

Our images of foreign places that do not directly concern us tend to get frozen in our schooldays and stay that way for decades. I grew up among working-class British adults who visualized France—next door!—in louche images drawn from the Belle Epoque of sixty years before. France of the 1950s was in fact rather dull and strait-laced.

Important people should know better: the Pope, for instance, who last year visited the Italian island of Lampedusa to welcome boat people from Eritrea and to urge his fellow Europeans to extend charity to them.

My grandfather’s 1922 atlas shows the non-European population of Eritrea as 387,900. For Italy it gives a figure of 38,835,941, almost precisely a hundred times as many.

The ratio of Italy’s population to Eritrea’s today is no longer a hundred: It’s less than ten and falling fast. An average Eritrean woman has 4.14 children, while an average Italian woman has 1.42.

I understand of course that the Pope is a man of faith, and that religion traffics in eternal truths. I have no doubt His Holiness’ injunctions to charity are sincere. The less devout among us, however, can’t help wondering whether ideas about the Brotherhood of Man that were appropriate when there were 100 Italians for each Eritrean are still tenable as the ratio dwindles down into single digits.

Matters of assimilation are more difficult to quantify, but here too it’s hard not to think that Europe is in an even worse pickle than we are. The overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants into Europe are either black, or Muslim, or both. That is to say, they are from the two groups with the poorest track records of assimilation into Western society.

The European elites are surprisingly blithe about all this. Most public discussion of the topic is still conducted in the elite vocabulary of compassion, ethnomasochism, “humanitarian crisis,” xenophilia, and indifference to one’s own people.

This is even the case in Italy, which has borne the brunt of the recent surge across the Mediterranean. After a disaster off Lampedusa last October when 366 boat people drowned, the Italian government launched Operation Mare Nostrum, instructing the country’s Navy to intercept the illegals’ vessels.

Mare Nostrum was originally advertised as a police action:

The goal will be … to approach as close as possible to the ports of the North African countries from which the dilapidated boats sail … The hope is that this operation acts as a deterrent against those who organize this illicit traffic in human beings by intercepting them before they can leave passengers to their fate, and to apprehend them in the middle of committing a crime … Such deterrence would become illusory if Operation Mare Nostrum were interpreted by traffickers as an aid to reach the Italian coast … [ L’Operazione Mare Nostrum by Giovanni Caprara, Eurasia, November 4, 2013.]

However, Mare Nostrum quickly morphed into a mainly humanitarian operation. Its director, Admiral Foffi, now boasts that “We never push back a boat.”

This has had a predictable effect.

There are more and more boats. More than 66,000 people have arrived in Italy since the beginning of the year compared with just under 43,000 for the whole of 2013.

[ Italy appeals for help in migrant rescues, Agence France-Presse, July 8, 2014.]

(Should you feel tempted here to insert an Italian Navy joke—“ Chicken of the Sea,” etc.—please note that the Italian Navy acquitted itself rather well in WW2 in spite of deficiencies in equipment. The 1941 raid on Alexandria crippled two of Britain’s capital ships with no Italian losses.)

Dissent is mainly limited to internet comment threads. Thus the Times of Malta, reporting on a conference to mark World Refugee Day last month, quoted a United Nations hack as calling Mare Nostrum a “great humanitarian success.” Observed a commenter: “Since when is enticing whole nations to abandon their continent and [arrive] irregularly on another continent a ‘great humanitarian success’?”

Whether or not Mare Nostrum is any kind of success, the Italians are grumbling that they are taking most of the responsibility for a Europe-wide problem. The Italian government is threatening to suspend Mare Nostrum if the EU doesn’t step up. They have even, most recently, threatened to leave the Euro currency zone if help is not forthcoming.

[Italian Prime Minister Matteo] Renzi told the Italian parliament that “A Europe that tells the Calabrian fisherman that he must use a certain technique to catch tuna but then turns its back when there are dead bodies in the sea cannot call itself civilized.” … Mr Renzi then threatened to leave the European single currency if the EU does not help with the costs of Mare Nostrum. He said “If, when facing the tragedies of immigration, we are told, ‘This is not our problem,’ then I say keep your single currency and leave us our values.” …

Immigrants can now travel easily over much of Europe once they are within the EU. This is because of the provisions of the Schengen Treaty which created the Schengen Area. This covers 26 countries mainly in continental Europe.

Schengen countries have abolished internal border controls so it is possible to move freely between Schengen countries without showing any identification papers.

In reality, therefore, once a migrant has reached Italy, he (or she, though migrants are predominantly young men), will often leave Italy and can go virtually anywhere in Europe … Many head for northern European countries such as Sweden and are often not discovered for months or years. It is estimated that two thirds of migrants who arrive in Italy leave for other countries. [ Italian PM: If EU will not help on immigration, we will leave Eurozone, workpermit.com, July 1, 2014]

Note that Renzi addresses the issue in elite-compassionate language: “dead bodies in the sea … civilized … tragedy … values.” The thought that European civilization, as was famously said of the US Constitution, is not a suicide pact, seems not to have occurred to anyone at Signor Renzi’s level.

That the EU will in fact take the matter in hand is very doubtful. There is essentially no European external-border policy.

True, the EU has an agency, Frontex, established in 2004 “for the Management of Operational Cooperation at the External Borders of the Member States of the European Union.” Frontex is woefully underfunded, though, at 0.06 percent of the EU budget (and in fact has just had its funding cut, which “came as a surprise to many, given that illegal migration flows across the Mediterranean continue to grow and make headlines.” [ France campaigns for EU border guards, EurActiv.com, June 26, 2014]

Protection of Europe’s external borders are almost entirely an issue for the countries that share them. If there is to be a Fortress Europe, its ramparts will have to be built from scratch.

Europe’s Main Stream Media, education, and political elites are under the same ideological spell as ours: the spell that makes it impossible to think the thought that a nation’s character, institutions, and fate might have anything to do with the inherited qualities of the people who live there. And European techniques of Thought Control are if anything more advanced than here, due to lack of constitutional protections, post-colonial guilt, and ancient feudal habits of deference to authority.

Sweden is generally agreed to be the worst case.

Swedes are more worried about an increase in xenophobia in Sweden than they are about the increase in immigration, a new study found on Tuesday.

The study from the SOM institute at Gothenburg University found that while 49 percent of Swedes were concerned about immigration levels, 78 percent were worried about an increase in racism …

Immigration to Sweden has been a hot topic in Sweden, not least with Sweden taking the lead in questions of granting asylum to refugees. Last week, Eurostat revealed that Sweden took in 20 percent of the EU’s asylum seekers in 2013—a total of 26,395 asylum seekers, mostly from Syria. Around 15 percent of Sweden’s population is foreign born. [ Four in five Swedes worried about racism, The Local, June 24, 2014.]

It was again left to a commenter to make the obvious point.

If it wasn’t for mass third world immigration you wouldn’t have any of these problems. There is no racism in a homogenous society, as Sweden used to happily be. I could weep for you. You are the poster boys for suicidal liberalism. In 200 years no one will even remember a country called Sweden or what Swedes were.

Where Sweden leads, the institutional EU is close behind.

EU Commissioner for Home Affairs, Cecilia Malmström, has expressed hopes that the new common European asylum system, to be implemented by 2015, will result in more EU countries admitting refugees.

[ Europe put to the test, Norwegian Refugee Council, June 20, 2014.]

And in case you’re thinking: “Oh, refugees—who could object to accommodating them?” note please that the globalist elites are busily changing the meaning of “refugee” to cover any kind of illegal immigrant.

United Nations officials are pushing for many of the Central Americans fleeing to the U.S. to be treated as refugees displaced by armed conflict, a designation meant to increase pressure on the United States and Mexico to accept tens of thousands of people currently ineligible for asylum …

Asked Monday whether the Obama administration viewed the situation at the border as a refugee crisis, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said it was “a humanitarian situation that requires urgent attention.”

[ UN pushes for migrants to be called refugees, by Alberto Arce and Michael Weissenstein, AP, July 8, 2014]

So just as your mother told you, there’s always someone worse off than yourself. As we struggle to push back against the nation-killers in Washington, DC, pause to spare a thought for the native peoples of Europe, helpless—because they have psychologically disarmed themselves—before an onrushing tsunami far more terrifying than the one we face.

John Derbyshire [ email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review , whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. His most recent book, published by VDARE.com com is FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT ( also available in Kindle).His writings are archived at JohnDerbyshire.com.


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  1. Slava says:

    We are seeing an ethnocultural senility which will be defenseless against the third-world caretaker.

  2. McGillicuddy says:

    Left unsaid here, is the fact that European public opinion, and to a more limited extent, public policy, is much more anti-immigration than what it is here. And while in American opposition to mass non-white immigration, such as it is, is softening, in Europe, it is increasing.

    Long-term, Europe stands a much better chance than the US. I’ll be surprised if there aren’t several European countries with explicitly ethno-nationalist immigration policies within the next decade or two, and several others will probably take less-overt steps in this same direction e.g. Iberia and Italy might give preference to those Latin Americans who have x number of Iberian or Italian great-grandparents. It ought not to be that hard for them to lure people from Venezuela and Argentina, especially; with the right incentives, I imagine Italy could even lure a lot of young Italian-American families out of over-priced Northeastern metro areas. Ireland, and an independent, or more independent, Scotland, might also do something similar.

    In the long-run, I would bet that many more sub-Saharan African immigrants are going to end-up in North America than in Europe. I say we try to convince the Brazilians to open their hearts.

  3. Slava says:

    Long-term, Europe stands a much better chance than the US.

    I disagree for one reason, Islam. While illiterate peasants from Honduras are not as desirable as an influx of Koreans or Norwegians, at least they are not Islamic. Islam will destroy Europe in no time once it reaches critical mass there. How many grenade attacks in the past year in the Muslim refugee city of Malmö, Sweden? Twelve?

  4. Matt says:

    And while in American opposition to mass non-white immigration, such as it is, is softening

    Is it? I wouldn’t be surprised, but for a while I have had the suspicion that we might have hit the peak on that metric a while back and could be in a modest reversal of the trend. Opposition to mass legal immigration has crept into respectability in the mainstream conservative blogosphere and is very hesitantly making some fits and starts in that direction in the wider culture. This might be a drop in the bucket against an overall larger trend, but I’d be curious to see some good polling.

  5. Gordo says:

    We all have a personal opportunity to act.

    Shun them, do not buy from their restaurants or shops, oppose them whenever you can.

    Act legally at all times but make it clear you do not and will not accept the aliens.

  6. How many grenade attacks in the past year in the Muslim refugee city of Malmö, Sweden? Twelve?

    What?

  7. KA says:

    Grenades supplied by the west have wrecked the lives of people from Somalia to Libya and taking a detour have included Congo.
    The chicken is coming home to roost. What’s the problem?

  8. KA says:

    Irish famine killing white was man made . Post Soviet loss of white population was man made. The governments policies in US actually hurt to be married and have kids. The workplace is unfriendly to married women. Violence nd sexualized violence have created monster among out of the young white men who do not value compassion,family,and dont protect the children from their own wretched existence . How many of the babies and children killed over last decade have been one by the non whites?
    The exceptional nation has created exceptional animals with sense of entitlement . The only thing these white have to show to claim membership of the exceptionalism is that they have white skin.

  9. What good could that do, gordo, when most prefer living on the dole to working anyway? The state hands them all they could possibly need.

    Sweden is such a caricature, all the news from there sounds like it belongs in the Onion. How can such a thing as today’s Sweden even exist? It defies belief. Not picking on the Swedes, we’re all headed that way, by the looks of things. And, not to underestimate Americans’ troubles, but I’d much rather be in their situation than the European one.

  10. McGillicuddy says:

    @Slava

    I disagree for one reason, Islam.

    This is probably a help to the ethno-nationalist cause than not. The extreme contrast between immigrant and host spurs the frog to jump out of the boiling water. In the meantime, it preserves a wall of separation between the two sides.

    And even if Western Europe does not take my advice and encourage massive immigration of young whites from the Americas, there are plenty of whites near-by to draw from without even making an effort. Given recent events and the likely ramifications, I’ll be surprised if there aren’t a whole lot more Ukrainians in Germany in a decade’s time than there are now. Even right now, the largest source of immigrants to most Western European countries is other European countries; the US now gets less immigrants from Europe than from any other region besides Australia.

    I think it might be that our disagreement is that we have different desires. Your primary concern seems to be the preservation of peace and prosperity, mine is the preservation of the ethnic integrity of Europe. To me, a Korean is no more desirable an immigrant than a Mixtec. I’m not sure that the violent crime rate of Muslims in Europe is much higher than that of Central Americans in the United States, anyways.

  11. Kiza says:

    This article and most comments are quite naive. The illegal immigration would be a worry if it did not benefit the elite in the Western countries. It is exactly the same reason as why the same countries are outsourcing all work to the third-world countries: short term gain for a long term pain. The pain of illegal immigration is felt by ordinary people and the state in the long term. This is why racism is rising in Western countries – those who lose jobs or have to compete for a home with a 12-member immigrant family hate immigrants the most. The elite is quite comfortable with immigration, they never go to the economically challenged and immigrant areas anyway, such crime does not reach them. Aso, most Western countries have many a lawyer working on behalf of the illegal immigrants and against the society because it is so lucrative.

    The flip side is, of course, that it is often the policies of the Western governments and pillaging by Western companies which causes disasters in the places where illegal immigrants come from. How high the anti-immigration Wall needs to be when you push a country such as Libya or Syria into a 30-year civil war?

  12. Port says:

    European populations (in Europe, America, Australia) have become soft due to advanced technology and civilization – and maybe lessons of the wars. The dilemma is if their ancestors were this soft in the past they would not be alive today. So the current European populations have no mechanisms to deal with the psychological prison they find themselves in – they are adrift in a vast unfamiliar sea – there are no past lessons to rely on (that can be implemented in their minds).

    It doesn’t matter if the Euro weenies of today consciously reject the call of their genes to survive in the ocean of Africans, Asians, Arabs, Latinos, etc. At some point some kind of lesser, subconscious mechanism is going to kick in. This where the liberals are flat out wrong. A rapid demographic shift is NEVER good. The liberals will cause more evil then good. Their philosophy on this subject is morally bankrupt. As the liberal doctrine gets hijacked by African drifters, muslim preachers, and latino drug lords the whole “system” is going to collapse onto itself.

    I can’t wait to have a police state/drug state/Islamic insurrection/massive ghettos. Preach on my liberal friends!! Preach on!!

    Hopefully the singularity is something better. (2035?)

  13. eah says:

    If Europe is ‘dithering’, then I guess the US has left the light on and propped the door open.

  14. Don Nash says:Website

    A world choked to overflowing with people. Borders are a thing of the past. Welcome to postmodern ‘brave new world’.

  15. Lurker says:

    @KA

    The chicken is coming home to roost. What’s the problem?

    Thanks for the admission that this immigration is a punishment for whites. No BS about enriching us. Again, thanks for the honesty, most refreshing.

  16. Jefferson says:

    “I’m not sure that the violent crime rate of Muslims in Europe is much higher than that of Central Americans in the United States, anyways.”

    The vast majority of rapes in Sweden and Norway for example are committed by Muslim men. Muslims in Europe are on average definitely more violent than the native White European population.

  17. Fred says:

    @Jefferson

    One should note that according to Muslim doctrine rape of a kuffar woman in the Dar ul Harb is not a crime. It is only criminal if the woman is a dhimmi.

  18. I was surprised you failed to note that Sweden made it criminal for its citizens to criticize Swedish immigration policy on the internet. The law was passed in April 2014. Google it.

  19. peterike says:

    The game has been won. It’s over. Whites let themselves by displaced by guilt-tripping globalist power. It’s all too far along for most nations. The only solution would be a violent reaction and armed rebellion, and while many here, myself included, would welcome it, it’s simply not going to happen. Whites have been feminized and castrated. Whites WILL go gently into that bad night.

  20. KA says:

    @Fred

    How many American soldiers did get punished for rapes in Vietnam and in Iraq? How many did get punished for any sexual crimes in Iraq including the sodomy of young boys as reported in Guradian ( UK ) ?

    Fred before opening your anti Muslim tirade. Why don’t you look at the rapes in US,in college campuses at home,and figure it out how they are doing it without a doctrine or article of faith?
    BTW ,do you have the pertinent reference please?

  21. Lurker says:

    @Visitor in Sweden

    I was surprised you failed to note that Sweden made it criminal for its citizens to criticize Swedish immigration policy on the internet. The law was passed in April 2014. Google it.

    Then we must do it for them.

    I didnt know that though, thankyou. The evil repressive nature of the tolerant is still surprising to me, even now.

    Funnily enough my Disqus ID was just banned from here:

    crooksandliars.com

    So I dont know why Im surprised!

  22. Flemur says:

    Why don’t you look at the rapes in US,in college campuses at home,and figure it out how they are doing it without a doctrine or article of faith?

    Outside the slums, rape is actually pretty rare in the US, especially on college campuses. Ignore the feminist propaganda (“sexual assault” = an unwanted kiss) that the Obama admin parrots and look up the stats.

    BTW ,do you have the pertinent reference please?

    “Crime Rate by Country of Origin: Denmark (and Sweden)”
    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1vs2P0uYZgn_szU68kEPqrJzDD_Wak18meIdLmkN8rCs/edit#slide=id.g2763f10b8_0132

    “Islam” is a major predictor of crime; there’s a 10x to 20x variation in crime rates depending on country of origin.

  23. fnn says:

    It’s not just the Murican Empire-we can see that the entire West is rapidly dying.

    Of course the whole West is now part of the American Empire-but it didn’t have to be that way. The Anglo-Americans could have stayed out of the Great War and allowed (horrors :)) Germany to dominate the Continent. If the silly Brits were too buggered to do that they could have made a deal with Hitler with 1940. Today we all realize that Hitler was preferable to Stalin and not Satan come to earth like the rubes are led to believe. Just before AH came to power the Soviets killed seven million Ukrainians and others in various engineered famines-which also included many face-to-face atrocities for those who think starvation is a pleasant death. Then one or two million more in the Great Purge. All AH had to his “credit” before the war was the 100 or so killed in the Night of the Long Knives. Even in that case he had to be repeatedly pressed to act by non-Nazi conservative elements worried about the radicalism of the SA.

    But go ahead and believe Goldhagenian theology about the Germans carrying the Devil’s seed, it then would have been better to allow the Red Army to go all the way to Brest. The West Europeans would have civilized the Soviet ruling elites before long and Western Civilization could have been preserved. The latter period of Soviet rule was of course culturally quite conservative.

  24. Gordo says:

    When the Iranian revolution happened in 79 it wasn’t the elite or the masses, it was the homofars, the technical middle class. They had had enough.

    Just sayin’.

  25. @ Gordo. Absolutely true. Rutgers University, where I went in the Seventies was filled with Iranian foreign exchange students. almost all were anti-Shah from what I could tell. Quite a few are living here still, with deep chagrin. Or perhaps they’re not wise enough to see how they played into the hands of the Mullahs.

    The fall of Iran is just one more example, like the French Revolution, of the middle class and lower nobility reforming themselves into oblivion. Dictators usually fall when the business class give up on them. So it was in the case of Nicaragua. The revolution begins but is then hi-jacked by commies, Islamic extremists, or as in the case of Russia, by minority oligarchs.

    Starting a revolution or a reform for that matter is a dangerous move. Reasonable people are rarely capable of prevailing in the tempests they call up. It’s the hard men with unlimited objectives that win.

    That’s why helping the Syrian opposition is so foolish. However awful Assad may be, he is very unlikely to be followed by anyone who is not considerably worse.

    I think we Americans have a hard time seeing this clearly, since our revolution turned out so much better. We are blessed that our founders were so moderate and averse to savage temptations. Just so, Robert E. Lee setting his face against continuing the Civil War as a guerrilla war.

  26. KA says:

    @Flemur

    Ignore the feminist propaganda . I have sir . Now I will ignore every wars US has fought every 13 months since 1812.You can ask Europeans if we should ignore their wars all the way to the recent ones in Midfle East with collusion with some local thugs as well.
    Where is the slum again In Duke university? Or is it in Missisipi ? Or is it in Chicago or L A ? So they count or not ? They are blacks and not Americans, is that why ?
    Did the peaceful Christian religion succumb to the monostrous tendencies for sex and violence only after Europeans came in contact with Muslims,Blacks,Asian ? May be . Use your documents to ,again,to forget Vietnam Iraq,Afghanistan,,Panama,Grenada, and countless havoc creating interventions in Central America leading to beheadings in day time in Mexico and drug laundering in Central America and poppy blooming in Thai with spread of HIV and child prostitution whose main customers are bald white a christian males .

  27. Kawiks says:

    @Curious Reader

    Before making ridiculous assumptions about Sweden, maybe you should consider visiting first…

  28. Kawiks says:

    @Visitor in Sweden

    Googled it, and it ain’t there…probably because it’s not true.

  29. Kawiks says:

    @Jefferson

    made-up data…no such figures exist because these data are neither collected nor published in any EU country

  30. Kawiks says:

    @Kiza

    actually, here in Canada, various regions and provinces compete for immigrants, and most folks are just fine with that…of course, here we don’t have an economy ruined by endless wars, unlike that Third World basket case to our immediate south

  31. Kawiks says:

    @Slava

    Malmö has a lower crime rate than any U.S. city.

  32. @Kawiks

    You compete for cash-rich Han Chinese in your cold, high-tax country.

  33. @KA

    Grenades ==purchased by Africans of their own free will== have done that.

  34. Kawiks says:

    @The Anti-Gnostic

    actually, only 12% of immigrants to Canada came from China in 2012.
    A larger number came from the Philippines, with India close behind.
    There were also significant numbers from the US, UK and France.
    Pakistan, Haiti, Iran and South Korea rounded out the top 10.
    ps: it’s actually quite warm here now…and we do have the lowest corporate tax rates in North America, half that of the U.S.

  35. “Islam will destroy Europe in no time once it reaches critical mass there.”

    The only destruction will come from the radical religious fashionistas–Jews, Christians, and Muslims are included!

    “The Anglo-Americans could have stayed out of the Great War and allowed (horrors :)) Germany to dominate the Continent.”
    
Except Germany drew decidedly America into the conflict.

    “Today we all realize that Hitler was preferable to Stalin and not Satan come to earth like the rubes are led to believe.”

    Who is “we”? And since when are dictators “preferable”?

    “The West Europeans would have civilized the Soviet ruling elites before long and Western Civilization could have been preserved.”

You are joking, right? Because the Soviet Union had three decades prior to World War II to firmly entrench its political and economic ideologies. And, please define “civilized”. What does this process entail?

  36. @Kawiks

    Then you are really boned, because those people aren’t going to pay near the taxes needed to support your generous social spending.

  37. syon says:

    Kawiks:”Malmö has a lower crime rate than any U.S. city.”

    and just imagine how much lower it would be without Muslims…..

  38. syon says:

    Kawiks:”actually, here in Canada, various regions and provinces compete for immigrants, and most folks are just fine with that”

    And, needless to say, the regions and provinces are not competing to see who can get the most Latin American Amerinds and Mestizos….

    Kawiks:”…of course, here we don’t have an economy ruined by endless wars, unlike that Third World basket case to our immediate south”

    You also don’t have hordes of Amerinds and Mestizos streaming across your border either.

  39. syon says:

    Actually, there are some Canadian immigration control methods that America should look into. See, for example, how the Canadians manage Mexican stoop-laborers:

    “Once in Canada, the workers live like monks, sleeping in trailers or barracks, under contractual agreements that forbid them from drinking alcohol and having female visitors, or even socializing with other Mexican workers from different farms.

    Most of their time in Canada is limited to sleeping, eating and working long days that can stretch to 15 hours, without overtime pay.

    “People look to Canada as a model for their success at making temporary workers truly temporary,” said David FitzGerald, an immigration expert at the University of California at San Diego. “But the way they are prevented from staying is by socially isolating them to an extreme degree, controlling their movements and systematically preventing them from interacting with Canadian society,” he said.

    “From a labor rights perspective, it’s troubling, but it’s appealing to policymakers because it keeps the workers temporary,” FitzGerald said.”

    (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/canadas-guest-worker-program-could-become-model-for-us-immigration-changes/2013/01/05/2b82a468-551b-11e2-89de-76c1c54b1418_story.html?hpid=z2)

  40. marlowe says:

    RE: Immigrants and Rape in Sweden:

    “Now, looking to find the percentage of the total population falling into each of these three groups, “Statistiska centralbyrån” offers the numbers for the year 2008:

    Born in Sweden, both parents born in Sweden: 75% Born in Sweden, at least one parent born abroad: 11% Born abroad: 14%

    With the known risk of correlating three different statistics collected over a range of 8 years, the number of perpetrators in each of the three population groups (considering their share of the total population and relative crime risk) should be approximately:

    Born in Sweden, both parents born in Sweden: 1557 Born in Sweden, at least one parent born abroad: 415 Born abroad: 1454

    Summing it up: Of the 3,426 reported rapes or rape attempts in the first 7 months of 2013, some 1900 can be assumed to have been performed by a perpetrator born outside Sweden or with at least one parent born outside Sweden.”

    (http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/18700/did-muslim-immigrants-rape-over-300-swedish-children-in-seven-months-of-2013)

  41. Anonymous says:

    Why are American conservatives so obsessed with Muslim immigration to Europe. They should be more worried about what’s going on in their own country. Have they forgotten all about Villa and the Plan of San Diego?

  42. Kawiks says:

    @syon

    Actually, Canada has a much higher rate of true natives (‘Amerindians’) than the US…
    also, the immigrants here pay their fair share of taxes, and then some.
    There are plenty of Latinos (‘Mestizos’) as well in my small city…most seem to be from Colombia. Many are engineers and doctors and are hard-working, family-oriented folks.
    You folks are not interested to hear opposing viewpoints or information that doesn’t fit your preconceptions. Might be worthwhile getting out more into the real world…

  43. @Kawiks

    Unless all news coming out of Sweden are part of an evil anti-Sweden media conspiracy, your pro-Swedish agenda would be better served if you raised Swedes’ consciousness and spirits, rather than big-upping Sweden on an internet blog. Also, whatever PR approach you apply to Sweden’s crime rates or whichever statistics, I hope you’re aware that they’re just snapshots in time, becoming more and more irrelevant with each new thousand incoming from Syria or Eritrea or any of the other reservoirs of future Swedes. It’s not the current state of Sweden that is so alarming, it’s the current state of Swedes’ minds and what it means for the future. Don’t get me wrong, I wish only the best for Swedes, and I hope they still manage to turn things around somehow.

  44. @Kawiks

    Oh wait, seems your PR efforts are not motivated by being a Swedish expat or some kind of Sweden afficionado. You’re just spouting general nonsense. Disregard my previous post then.

  45. Kawiks says:

    No, I have lived in Sweden, so I know of what I speak.

  46. syon says:

    Kawiks:”Actually, Canada has a much higher rate of true natives (‘Amerindians’) than the US…”

    Which relates to Amerind immigration rates how?

    Kawiks:”also, the immigrants here pay their fair share of taxes, and then some.”

    One would hope.

    Kawiks:”There are plenty of Latinos (‘Mestizos’) as well in my small city…most seem to be from Colombia. Many are engineers and doctors and are hard-working, family-oriented folks.”

    Seems that Canada’s attempts to keep out semi-literate Mestizo/Amerind stoop-laborers is working.

    MMMM, let’s check the stats:

    Canada (VIA WIKIPEDIA)
    76.7% European
    14.2% Asian
    4.3% Aboriginal
    2.9% Black
    1.2% Latin American
    0.5% Multiracial
    0.3% Other

    So, Canada is 1.2% Latin American.

    USA (VIA WIKIPEDIA)

    By ethnicity:[167]
    Hispanic/Latino 16.9%

    16.9 % Latin American

    Now, not every single person who is Latin American in origin is Amerind or Mestizo, but let’s be generous and fold the Amerind percentage into the Canadian Latin american percentage. That gives us 5.5 %, as compared to America’s 16.9. So the USA’s Latin American/Mestizo/Amerind population is more than 3 times greater than Canada’s.

    Kawiks:”You folks are not interested to hear opposing viewpoints or information that doesn’t fit your preconceptions. Might be worthwhile getting out more into the real world…”

    As opposed to, say, the Leftist Wonderland, where everything is blue skies and rainbows?

  47. Gordo says:

    @KA

    Stop spreading your racist drivel you illiterate.

  48. marlowe says:

    @Kawiks

    Kawiks:”No, I have lived in Sweden, so I know of what I speak.”

    RE: Immigrants and Rape in Sweden:

    “Now, looking to find the percentage of the total population falling into each of these three groups, “Statistiska centralbyrån” offers the numbers for the year 2008:

    Born in Sweden, both parents born in Sweden: 75% Born in Sweden, at least one parent born abroad: 11% Born abroad: 14%

    With the known risk of correlating three different statistics collected over a range of 8 years, the number of perpetrators in each of the three population groups (considering their share of the total population and relative crime risk) should be approximately:

    Born in Sweden, both parents born in Sweden: 1557 Born in Sweden, at least one parent born abroad: 415 Born abroad: 1454

    Summing it up: Of the 3,426 reported rapes or rape attempts in the first 7 months of 2013, some 1900 can be assumed to have been performed by a perpetrator born outside Sweden or with at least one parent born outside Sweden.”

    (http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/18700/did-muslim-immigrants-rape-over-300-swedish-children-in-seven-months-of-2013)

  49. @Kawiks

    http://www.europeandailynews.org/2014/04/14/sweden-new-law-to-make-it-easier-to-prosecute-those-who-insult-immigrants-politicians/

    Here is one of many links discussing the new Swedish law set to take effect in 2015. Maybe your google is compromised.

  50. Jefferson says:

    “made-up data…no such figures exist because these data are neither collected nor published in any EU country”

    http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/the-living-hell-for-swedish-women-5-muslims-commit-nearly-77-6-of-all-rape-crimes/

    A whopping 77 percent of all rapes in Sweden are committed by Muslim perpetrators, even though Muslims make up only 5 percent of Sweden’s population.

    Muslims seem to have very high sexual testosterone combined with a low IQ just like Sub Saharan Africans, no wonder so many of them become rapists.

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