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DoomedI can’t think of any way to put a smiley face on it: This was a really bad week for National Conservatives.

There was always the possibility that Trump would cuck on us. VDARE.com Editor Peter Brimelow mentioned that in his speech to the American Renaissance conference last May:

Well, the second question: can he be trusted if he wins?

And the answer is: absolutely not! You can’t trust any of these characters.

It’s entirely possible that he could be another Schwarzenegger, that he could be content to reign rather than to rule. We don’t really know what he’s going to do when he gets into the White House.

But we did know what Jeb Bush was going to do. And we did know what Marco Rubio was going to do — even if he had the grace to lie about it in the campaign.

Still, I don’t think any of us thought the cucking would come so swiftly. Not even a hundred days in office — not even eighty — and our man, our best hope, has gone D.C. native.

Am I depressed? You bet I am. You should be, too. I am sunk in fatalistic despair, awaiting news of U.S. Marines storming the beaches of Iran, Jeff Sessions being pushed out from the Justice Department to make way for Al Sharpton, and an Executive Order mandating compulsory quotas for transsexuals in all law enforcement agencies.

Well, let’s take a look at what happened to occasion this despair.

  • Tuesday Steve Bannon was removed from his position as a principal on Trump’s National Security Council.

There was a case you could make for Bannon not holding that position. There is no necessary or logical reason why a President’s political strategist needs to be a member of any specific advisory unit. Bannon was on the NSC, though, and now he’s not on it. That looks, sounds, smells, tastes, and feels like a demotion.

  • Thursday, we heard that our administration had bombed — more precisely, cruise-missiled — a Syrian air force base, supposedly the one from which the Syrian government had launched a poison-gas attack on a rebel town earlier in the week.

Our bombing of the base was, the Administration made plain, retaliation for the gas attack — an attack which killed no Americans and harmed no American interests. So I guess we can kiss goodbye to “America First.”

Concerning Bannon’s demotion, there are plenty of rumors and speculations. It’s hard to evaluate them without good inside information. The attack on Syria, though, is a complete repudiation of Trumpism as we were given to understand it.

If President Trump himself is to be believed, the bombing was inspired by his own feelings of outrage at seeing pictures of little children who had been killed by the poison gas:

Clip: Using a deadly nerve agent, Assad choked out the lives of helpless men, women and children.

It was a slow and brutal death for so many. Even beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack. No child of God should ever suffer such horror.

Tonight I ordered a targeted military strike on the airfield in Syria from where the chemical attack was launched.

Full transcript: Trump statement on Syria strikes,

Politico, April 7, 2017

So apparently the driving motive here was the President’s feelings—wo-wo-wo feelings. We thought we’d elected a practical, deal-making, hard-headed National Conservative to the presidency. It seems that we actually elected a 14-year-old girl.

Of course, it’s a shame for little kids to be killed. And poisoning by gas is a nasty way to go. But the world is full of horrors. Why is this particular one any of America’s business?

Let the President explain:

It is in this vital national security interest of the United States to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons

Is it? Chemical weapons, like nuclear weapons, are awful, and we should certainly do what we can to stop them getting into the hands of bad actors.

We can’t do much, though; not even as much as we can do with nukes, which at least require some substantial expertise and industrial infrastructure. Our best defense, as with nukes, is deterrence.

And deterrence works. When Britain declared war on Germany in World War Two, the British government issued millions of gas masks to the civilian population. Gas had been used as a weapon in the previous big war; everyone assumed it would play a major role in the new one.

It didn’t. Germany knew if they used it on Britain, the Brits would use it right back. Deterrence worked.

Even terrorists have kept away from gas. Sarin gas, which seems to have been what the Syrians used against their rebels, featured in the Tokyo subway attacks of 1995. It hasn’t featured in terrorist attacks since, though.

And all of that assumes that Tuesday’s gas attack in Syria actually was perpetrated by the Syrian air force against rebels. As many commentators have observed, Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian dictator, has pretty much won his civil war. He was in no need of desperate measures. As an intelligent guy, he surely realized that using gas would make for a lot of really bad publicity. Even if he’s crazy, which I don’t believe, he’s not that kind of crazy.

So maybe the whole thing was a false flag by … who? The Rebels? ISIS? The Saudis? The Israelis? I wouldn’t rule it out.

And if it was a false flag, the whole world now knows that if A is fighting B, and B is losing badly, and B figures that it would help for Uncle Sam to drop a few bombs on A, then a little staged atrocity theater will do the trick.

I wonder who else has taken that message to heart?

Is President Trump really such an emotional ninny as to attack a foreign country because some images from their civil war upset him? Ghastly things happened in our own Civil War, God knows; but I never heard that the guy in charge of Syria at the time, Sultan Abdulaziz the Unfortunate, thought it was any of his business.

Of course, the Sultan didn’t have high-definition TV. Perhaps that’s what makes the difference.

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And listening to the President speaking there, he doesn’t sound very Trumpish. On the news commentary websites, everybody and his brother have been posting Trump’s tweets from four years ago, when it looked as though Barack Obama might do something or other in Syria. Sample One:

We should stay the hell out of Syria, the rebels are just as bad as the current regime. WHAT WILL WE GET FOR OUR LIVES AND $ BILLIONS? ZERO

Sample Two:

What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval.

Sample Three:

The only reason President Obama wants to attack Syria is to save face over his very dumb RED LINE statement. Do NOT attack Syria, fix U.S.A.

What happened to that Donald Trump — the one I voted for last November? How did we end up with George W. Bush the Second, with all this World Policeman stuff and God language and emoting?

One possibility being aired: The President has been captured by his daughter Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, who is one of his senior advisors. Well, that Thursday night address was definitely more girly than guyish and more Gen-X than Boomer. And speaking as the father of a princess myself, I know how susceptible we can be.

Still I expected more strength of character from Trump. This is a grave disappointment.

Clutching at straws, I’m trying to think of some reason, some National Conservative reason, President Trump might have done this.

One possibility: the Nixon strategy. President Nixon believed it was good for potential adversaries to have some doubt about whether perhaps he was a little bit crazy and unpredictable. Perhaps Trump wants Putin, Xi Jinping, and Kim Jong Un thinking: “Wow, this guy fires off his cruise missiles any time he’s upset. Better be careful!”

That really is clutching at straws, though. I’d much rather have Putin & Co. thinking: “Wow, this guy fires off his cruise missiles in response to any slightest attack on his country or its citizens.”

I suspect that what they are actually thinking is: “Wow, this guy’s just as keen as that dumbass George W. Bush was to spend trillions of his people’s dollars and thousands of their lives on pointless wars in the Middle East. How can I play this idiot to my advantage?”

As vexing as the Syrian bombing itself, is the opportunity cost: the things our President is not doing while he’s dabbing his eyes at images of dead Syrian babies.

A big thing he’s not doing: he’s not acting on immigration—one of his strongest issues on the campaign trail, and one that differentiated him from all the other candidates of both parties.

Here are two stories from the immigration log this week, stories of a kind I hoped I wouldn’t be reading any more once a Trump administration had settled in:

  • First story. We all know that without millions of illegal aliens, crops would be rotting in the fields. Well, apparently things are worse than that. Without the illegals, American schoolchildren will be rotting in their classrooms.

This story is from the Guardian, Britain’s far-Left White-Submissivist newspaper (A White Submissivist, in case you don’t know, is the opposite of a white supremacist ): Dreamers need not apply: city’s teacher shortage overlooks the undocumented. By Amanda Holpuch, April 5, 2017.

The city: Charlotte, North Carolina. A young woman there, Madai Zamora (right) 23 years old, has been studying to become a teacher. As well as studying, she has also been doing some low-level teaching at Charlotte schools — low enough not to require a teaching license.

Which she can’t get, as she is an illegal alien. Yes, she’s a DREAMer, enjoying temporary relief from deportation under Barack Obama’s 2012 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals initiative (DACA). However, North Carolina, in common with most other states, doesn’t issue teaching licenses to illegals.

Quote from the Guardian’s Holpuch:

What makes the situation even more desperate is that Charlotte actually has a teacher shortage. The school district superintendent, Ann Clark, has issued personal calls for teachers, going so far as to ask people at community meetings “to email, text or call [the teachers you know] and invite them to teach in Charlotte.”

The shortage is country-wide. U.S. classrooms were short of 60,000 teachers in 2015, according to the Learning Policy Institute. By 2018, the number is expected to rise to more than 100,000. The shortage is most severe in maths, science, special education and in bilingual and English-language education.

Just as I said: Students are rotting in the classrooms all over the U.S.A.

Of course, you may say that there wouldn’t be so many of those students if we hadn’t been importing high-fertility Third-Worlders for the past thirty years — people like, oh, Ms. Zamora’s parents. If you do say that, you are plainly a hateful hater filled with hate.

You may also say that basic economics offers a rather straightforward prescription for any kind of shortage: raise salaries. If you say that, you are unmasking yourself as an innumerate ignoramus.

Concerning DACA, Guardianette Holpuch tells us “The White House has not announced its plans for the programme.”

That’s correct; they haven’t. Why not?

Since immunity from deportation under DACA is only good for two years, then has to be renewed, the solution seems straightforward: stop renewing. DACA is entirely an executive-branch initiative; Congress and the courts have nothing to say about it.

The executive branch doesn’t even have to take any action, other than to instruct the relevant employees to practice in-action. Just stop renewing.

But it hasn’t happened.

What’s the problem here, Mr. President? This is the kind of thing you were elected to do — this, and refraining from getting us involved in unnecessary military actions abroad.

  • Second story: Tiffany Li, 31 years old, of San Francisco, is a Chinese immigrant. She has two daughters by a man named Keith Green. They had lived together in an upmarket property she owned.

Then she got involved with another man. When Green found out she threw him out of the house — Green, not the boyfriend.

Ms. Li was known to fear losing custody of her daughters by Green. Keith Green disappeared some months ago. His body was later found with a bullet wound to the neck.

The lady has been charged, along with her boyfriend and an associate of his, with the killing of Keith Green. The three go to trial in September. Meanwhile Ms. Li is out on bail.

And there is the story: Ms. Li’s bail was set at $35 million—and she came up with it, offering $4 million cash and pledging properties around the Bay area worth tens of millions, properties belonging to herself, her family, and their business associates.

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Real-estate pledges only count as fifty cents in the dollar when reckoning bond payment, so that $31 million balance after cash needed $62 million of real estate pledged. That’s what she came up with: $4 cash, $62 million real estate. [Murder suspect posts $35M bail, upsetting victim’s family, by Paul Elias, Associated Press, April 6, 2017]

Apparently, she is well-connected in China. Given the state of affairs in China, one of the most corrupt countries in the world, that means she has an essentially bottomless supply of cash to draw on — not to mention a bolt-hole to flee to now that she’s out on bail.

He two co-defendants remain in jail. It seems she didn’t want to cover their bail, too. Why should she? They’re just a couple of dumb American yokels who don’t even know how to get rich.

It’s hard to see what the U.S.A. gained by admitting her as a permanent resident. Or rather, it’s all too easy to see what we gained: We gained another infusion of the kind of shameless, rampant corruption that the Chinese Communist Party allows and encourages, and that ordinary working- and middle-class Chinese people in China complain about bitterly.

On the scale of things our new administration ought to be doing, exercising a little more care — make that a lot more care — over who gets settlement rights in the U.S.A. ranks way higher than dropping cruise missiles on some faction in Trashcanistan because they used poison gas on some other faction.

A couple of secondary questions:

  • Rather than burdening ourselves with more vetting and scrutiny of the million or so legal residents we admit every year, why not simplify things with an immigration moratorium?

Wives and dependent children of citizens; certified, credentialed geniuses; foreigners who have risked their lives on our behalf; others only by explicit, named, hand-signed-by-the-President executive order.

We have a third of a billion people; why do we need to import more?

  • Why are there apparently no restrictions at all on foreigners buying up our real estate?

With our own young people loaded down with student debt, should we really be jacking up property prices out of their reach so that some Chinese crook can launder his cash through San Francisco real estate?

These are the kinds of issues — issues about our country, our kids’ future — that we elected you on, Mr. President.

Can’t we let Syrians take care of their own business while we take care of ours?

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He’s had two books published by VDARE.com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and From the Dissident Right II: Essays 2013. His writings are archived at JohnDerbyshire.com.

 

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  1. major-tom says:

    The “gas attack” looked like a false-flag op to me. What did Assad have to gain? And if it had been nerve-gas, wouldn’t the White Helmets doing the cleanup have been dead or dying? What evidence proves that Assad’s forces dropped chemical weapons in an airstrike from the base we attacked? I haven’t seen ANY. Just innuendo and the circularity of contrived agreement. (And your agreement carries a burden of proof, also.) I definitely agree with Ron Paul and Paul Craig Roberts about the attack. You might want to read what they have to say, if you haven’t.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    This blows away the phony Trump / neo-con claim of sarin gas.

    Sarin against bare hands results in a huge problem.
    You cannot treat exposure to sarin with your bare hands without falling ill/dead yourself, as the White Helmets were apparently doing in the aftermath of the Idlib attack. See this photo:
    https://media.almasdarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/1-24-696x463.jpg

    for more see:
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jumping-conclusions-something-not-adding-idlib-chemical-weapons-attack/

    Syria was a major blunder from Trump, he's now acting like Hillary.
    And I too voted for Trump.

    , @El Dato
    It's the [21 August 2013 / Muadamiyat al-Sham / Ghouta] gas attack all over again, which for some reason recently disappeared from the NYT's list of confirmed Syrian Chemical Attacks:

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/06/nyt-retreats-on-2013-syria-sarin-claims/

    Also, never trust the White Helmets, which are just, well, "rebels" with White Helmets.

    > $62 million real estate

    My brain must be mush, I just don't succeed in getting that rich. Fuu.......

    Incidentally, that's about the value of the 50 rapidly deprecating cruise missiles that "it is cheaper to fire than to dismantle" (http://conscientia.fr/2017/04/07/frappe-us-en-syrie-la-nuit-des-dupes-masquait-un-joli-de-coup-de-billard/)

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  2. Golly, look at that lady. There should be a rule that if the immigration officer at the airport thinks you look like a nutter, you’re not allowed into the country.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Anti-nuttist bigot!
    , @Stebbing Heuer
    Sanpaku:

    http://infogalactic.com/info/Sanpaku
  3. I was amazed to learn, reading this, that Derbyshire actually knows what a false flag is. His previous writing had led me to believe that he didn’t understand the concept.

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  4. Dumbo says:

    I also don’t think that the “gas attack” really happened. And even if it did, so what?

    Chemical weapons are not much used in war, not for ethical reasons, but because they seem to be impractical or not very effective.

    Seriously, for the ones who die, is there that much difference between being killed by a nerve gas and being blown to smithereens by a Tomahawk? Both seem pretty awful ways to go.

    I bet that the 15 innocent Syrians who died bombed by Trump’s “America First” missiles wouldn’t care which way they were killed and would prefer to be alive.

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  5. All good but for “China, one of the most corrupt countries in the world”.

    China’s far less corrupt than The Land of the Free, though that’s setting the bar low. Here’s why:

    1. Corrupt governments don’t prosecute 300,000 corruption cases annually.
    2. Corrupt governments don’t lift 800,000,000 people out of poverty in 70 years.
    3. Corrupt governments don’t double every worker’s wages every 10 years.
    4. Corrupt governments don’t allow 80% of people to own their homes outright.
    5. Corrupt governments don’t have empty prisons
    6. Corrupt governments don’t have safe streets.
    7. Corrupt governments aren’t trusted by 80% of their people.
    8. Corrupt governments’ policies don’t get 93% public approval.

    I could go on, but China’s government is not corrupt.

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    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Wally
    Sure, just ask the Tibetans.
    , @Realist
    No country is as corrupt as the US.
    , @Anonymous
    The difference is that China wad extremely corrupt but they are cleaning things up.

    America was once extremely not corrupt but is sliding downward into complete corruption.

    People haven't figured this out, or for political reasons choose the narrative of that proves their point.

    What tells me all I need to know is that China would have gunned down all the Goldman Sachs guys if that happened in China.

    Remember, in the west, only Iceland threw it's bankers in jail.
    , @Dave337
    Glad to read China's government is so corruption free. Though prosecuting 300k corruption cases a year apparently hasn't found everybody honest and aboveboard, not that I should say anything negative about China without condemning my own country first. Besides where else can we get body organs from in the black market.
    , @Stonehands
    I've been there, my wife is Chinese; you are speaking the truth.
    , @woodNfish
    That is just pro-chicom propaganda. China is no shangri-la, your just blowing smoke.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Beijing_Drum_Tower_stabbings
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/394565/chinas-slaves-josh-gelernter
    http://fortune.com/2017/01/10/china-red-alert-pollution-pm2-5/
  6. Trump found out the hard way what Obama realized right off the bat, in regards to his promises to us for hope and change: “I would have liked to have done something, but it would have pissed off too many powerful people.”

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    • Replies: @Stonehands
    That's too bad- that at Trumps age and after having lived a full life- he doesn't address the deep state publicly and say:
    GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.

    Nathan Hale was only 21 when he was hanged.

    I want to take that oil painting of Old Hickory and smash it over Trump's head.
  7. Wally says:
    @major-tom
    The "gas attack" looked like a false-flag op to me. What did Assad have to gain? And if it had been nerve-gas, wouldn't the White Helmets doing the cleanup have been dead or dying? What evidence proves that Assad's forces dropped chemical weapons in an airstrike from the base we attacked? I haven't seen ANY. Just innuendo and the circularity of contrived agreement. (And your agreement carries a burden of proof, also.) I definitely agree with Ron Paul and Paul Craig Roberts about the attack. You might want to read what they have to say, if you haven't.

    This blows away the phony Trump / neo-con claim of sarin gas.

    Sarin against bare hands results in a huge problem.
    You cannot treat exposure to sarin with your bare hands without falling ill/dead yourself, as the White Helmets were apparently doing in the aftermath of the Idlib attack. See this photo:
    for more see:

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jumping-conclusions-something-not-adding-idlib-chemical-weapons-attack/

    Syria was a major blunder from Trump, he’s now acting like Hillary.
    And I too voted for Trump.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    The .jpg apparently doesn't work at Unz.com ???

    See photo with story here:
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jumping-conclusions-something-not-adding-idlib-chemical-weapons-attack/
  8. The motive for the false flag is revealed by the target of Trump’s missile attack. Remember a month or so ago when Israelis jets attacked the Syrian army? The Syrian army was engaged in taking back Palmyra from ISIS at the time and the Israelis thought they’d take the opportunity to kill some Syrian soldiers and give their allies ISIS a bit of help. But the Syrians shot back and reportedly took down an Israeli jet. The airbase the Syrians fired from? The same airbase Trump just levelled.

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  9. FWIW Mr. Derbyshire, this is one reader who agrees with you 100%.

    If Trump continues this way, he will not be re-elected. Too many of us will not be able to hold our noses hard enough to vote next time around.

    Of particular significance are the non-actions you mention, things that he already could have done. We have patience, but when nothing stands in the way of action, and yet nothing happens, it can be called negligence.

    We either see action on immigration now, changes in trade shortly, and America First always, or we will withdraw our support and share our disgust with every American voter within earshot and keystroke. That’s not an offer. That’s an ultimatum. I wonder if The Artist of the Deal knows what that is?

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    • Replies: @Delinquent Snail
    I wish americans would stand up fight for themselves. I tried talking to my family about this false flag and they call me a conspiracy theorist. I try talking to friends and coworkers, and no one cares. The indifference that too many americans have is what is ruining this once great country.

    We need a new political party, or a violent coup to remove the ones that have entrenched themselves.
  10. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “Apparently, she is well-connected in China. Given the state of affairs in China, one of the most corrupt countries in the world, that means she has an essentially bottomless supply of cash to draw on — not to mention a bolt-hole to flee to now that she’s out on bail.”

    Why would the Chinese even give a crap about this race traitor scumbag?

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  11. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    The positive side of “WWIII” scenario is it might finally finish off globalism.

    In the melee, something new might grow.

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  12. Wally says:
    @Wally
    This blows away the phony Trump / neo-con claim of sarin gas.

    Sarin against bare hands results in a huge problem.
    You cannot treat exposure to sarin with your bare hands without falling ill/dead yourself, as the White Helmets were apparently doing in the aftermath of the Idlib attack. See this photo:
    https://media.almasdarnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/1-24-696x463.jpg

    for more see:
    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jumping-conclusions-something-not-adding-idlib-chemical-weapons-attack/

    Syria was a major blunder from Trump, he's now acting like Hillary.
    And I too voted for Trump.

    The .jpg apparently doesn’t work at Unz.com ???

    See photo with story here:

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jumping-conclusions-something-not-adding-idlib-chemical-weapons-attack/

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  13. joe webb says:

    Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 10:24 PM
    Subject: news modification on the Syria strike, per Fox News.

    Last night , or night before last, it was definitely “fixed-wing” aircraft that dropped the sarin on the kids, and since the anti-Assad jihadists like Isis, have no fixed-wing aircraft, ergo, Assad’s air force dun it. Case Closed.

    Tonight, on Fox, no-spin doctor O’Reilly, had someone on who claimed there were Russian drones seen (or, it was O’Reilly himself…sorry) that were flying around the zone where the sarin was dropped.

    OK, now my very limited understanding of drones ….notwithstanding, it is possible that Isis bought some drones from Amazon, or stole some from a local store, or got some from Saudi Arabia, Wahabists, etc. You know. These guys get their hands on heavy weapons somehow, in fact, Obongo gave Isis some dough a couple years ago to fight Assad, and so on.

    So, it is possible that Drones dun it. It is also possible that Russia, or Assad, or Isis & Co. of Allah’s martyrs, were flying the drones.

    O’Reilly poked fun at the usuals , like Rand ? Paul for expressing Doubt.

    2. Tonight Tucker Carlson did a great job questioning the O’Reilly Factor’s Official Facts…He had on a Hawaii Congresswoman who Doubts, and also invoked the war powers law that has Congress as the Decider, as someone remarked a few years ago… He also stuck a couple pins in a dough-boy Republican saluting The Chief.
    Carlson is the best, and lots of fun.

    3. Now let us see, which came first the chicken or the egg? Trump thumps Syria yesterday or so, and today a terrorist in Stockholm mows down a handful of Swedes with a truck. Apparently a muzzie, but not confirmed. (The chicken came first, but the egg had a good time.)

    Are we having a Good Time? How many million Arabs have we killed jointly and severally with the Jews?

    Like the Stockholm Terror today, maybe there is a relationship between US missiles and muzzie truck drivers driving under the influence of hatred of White people for our support of Israel and the millions we have killed for Jehovah in the ME.

    4. Maybe Trump was merely impressing China and N. Korea? Maybe. Maybe Trump’s War is calculated to drive more crazed Arabs North. This would aid the anti-muzzie sentiment in Europe, and ditto here in the US. Holistic anti-immigrant Program
    .
    5.Just heard on Hannity, that the drones were either Russian or Syrian….do they look the same or what? Hannity is about wetting his pants in excitement. He is having a good time for sure. jolly little war for the dead kids, like the Iraq Sanctions kids, who the jew Albright philosophized that their deaths were “worth it.” I guess these couple dozen kids deaths are going to have been worth it…to get the wars for the Jews started again.

    6. I am either going to singe with a match my Trump cap, and/or get some of those artificial flames from the gadgets store and fasten them to the cap.

    What would Pence be like if T. was impeached?

    Joe Webb

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    • Replies: @gda
    "Tonight Tucker Carlson did a great job..."

    One man's perspective. From my point of view Tucker presented an unbalanced view of the situation and allowed the pretty young thing from Hawaii to present her viewpoint with nary a peep or a hard question from him. Puff-ball interview indeed. He just sat there and let her talk on - which he never does.

    As for Lindsay Graham - he's a thoroughly dislikable character it's true. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    I like Tucker and watch him daily. But I fear he's on the wrong track on this one and its pretty obvious how he's manoeuvring his viewers towards accepting his particular bête noire.

    Shame on him for dishonest "journalism".
  14. truthman says:

    Well, with immigration Trump has been back and forth with the illegals and Dreamers even during the campaign. However, as of now he still hasn’t repudiated, as far as I know, his stance that we need a new immigration policy which is to benefit Americans (and the implication there is that we need less low skilled immigrants). He also hasn’t repudiated Sessions or given any indication that he is displeased with Sessions.
    I believe he had a cordial meeting with Sens Cotton and Perdue about their immigration reduction proposal a few weeks ago.

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  15. john cronk says: • Website

    The Saker, who posts here in the Unz Review, Ann Coulter, and John Derbyshire are each worried about some of these issues, and I don’t fault them for it. They worry me too. But from observing Trump I have a guess about him. I think he’s smart. I think he has a sophisticated way of seeming to give something away to his opponents while actually keeping what’s important. This disarms and distracts them, to his advantage. He fakes out both his enemies and his friends, and then we find out later that he knew what he was doing all along.
    As I said before – he’s nimble.

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    • Replies: @Truth

    But from observing Trump I have a guess about him. I think he’s smart. I think he has a sophisticated way of seeming to give something away to his opponents while actually keeping what’s important. This disarms and distracts them, to his advantage. He fakes out both his enemies and his friends, and then we find out later that he knew what he was doing all along.
    As I said before – he’s nimble.
     
    LMFAO! "It's the old; drop-Sarin-gas-on-the-locals-with-disguised-American-aircraft-and-pretend-Assad-did-it-so-that-we-can-instigate-the-Russians-into-WWIII, trick!"*





    *You won't get that unless your at least 40.
    , @Ivan K.

    I think he has a sophisticated way of seeming to give something away to his opponents while actually keeping what’s important.
     
    In terms of governance, yes. In view of mid-term goals, yes.

    Less likely to keep what is important:

    - to the families of the people killed by the US missiles

    - for the long-term good of America http://www.plata.com.mx/mplata/articulos/articles.asp
    , @Anonymous
    So smart he tried to pull the whole satin false flag bs.

    I actually don't doubt he is smart, but what does that tell you?

    It's possible he realized that America without the petrodollar or cheap oil would be less well off.

    MAGA
  16. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Jared Kushner is the Key.

    Who are all of these family members of Trump making decisions about my life? Remember how that worked out with Hillary care?

    Kushner is a lifelong Democrat.

    Why would Trump do this? The answer is simple. He doesn’t want to be an outcast post President. We wants to golf and have people adore him like Arnold.

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    • Replies: @gda
    Trump's instincts are to tread the middle path. His most trusted advisors are his daughter and her husband, both Democrats.

    Trump instincts keep him from the crazy PC Dems. But he is vulnerable, in that he wants to be loved.

    Sorry if you're disappointed in what you're getting now. But if you were listening all along over the last 2 years you would know that Trumpism crosses both left and right ideologies. In general, he takes the reasonable, sensible, common sense path and borrows from both.

    You got your SC Justice. He's serious about immigration. He's reducing regulations. He's doing a lot of good things WHERE HE CAN. But lets be honest. The forces arrayed against him are indeed formidable. He's not going to get some of the things done that the folk on this site want and expect.

    But what? You would have preferred maybe Clinton? Get a little perspective, please.
  17. It definitely fits the jihadi pattern; the pictures seem phony without the gloves in light of the characteristics of Sarin, and, contrary to yankee assertions, apparently no chemicals were stored at the airbase, which protects a christian town against jihadi barbarians, so the result of the yankee war crime may end up being a pogrom against Christians. It is also a fact that the Ghouta gas attack which Obama hoped would engineer consent for an intervention in Syria was later proven to have been the product of a jihadi atrocity attempting to secure that yankee intervention. It looks like Trump, analogous to the invasion of the body snatchers, has been taken over by the existing yankee regime. Since the threat of war with nuclear armed Russia looms, this is indeed serious. In addition to Ron Paul and Paul Craig Roberts, a guy named Craddick exposed the false flag nature of the attack, and stuff in consortiumnews is also interesting. What will future historians think of a regime (the US) which goes to a world ending war to defend the interest of barbaric jihadi thugs? As Paul Craig Roberts has indicated, those favouring this course of action are traitors to civilization. It is not only criminal but stupid.

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  18. neutral says:

    Derbyshire is right, a 14 year old girl has been elected, and like the saying goes, people deserve the leaders they get.

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    • Replies: @utu
    "14 year old girl has been elected"

    No, 14 years old girls have much richer vocabulary and can be infinitely more articulate than Trump.
  19. What happened to that Donald Trump — the one I voted for last November?

    Trump is the same smooth con man that he always was. You voted? Maybe you’ll use your head, as opposed to your dreams, next time.

    ” Mister, I did not vote. Many of my people, they did not vote, either. Why? We all knew it could result but one way, and we should have lost one half day’s pay.”

    -Filipino laborer, as quoted by Jim Marshall, Freedom’s Sting, Brown brothers’ burden–Philippine Indepedendence, Collier’s Weekly, May 30, 1936, pp. 7-8

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/Colliers-1936may30-00007

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    I think most Trump voters' sentiment was along the lines of "he might not keep his promises, but all the others are promising to screw me, at least he promises nice things; at worst he'll be the same as all the others". That makes supporting Trump still worth it, in my opinion. He's obviously no worse (yet) than Hillary. Hillary urged such an attack just hours before he ordered them. Probably she'd have done them, too, and possibly she'd already have attacked Syria before.
  20. Daniel H says:

    Great essay Derb. I have to share this.

    I am more than disappointed in Trump, I am humiliated. I advocated for him ceaselessly over the past year or so. He has made me look ridiculous.

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  21. Brabantian says: • Website

    The chemical attack in Syria was very clearly a false flag, it was beyond any shadow of a doubt an operation of the USA-CIA tied gangsters. Excellent summary with photos links etc here from UK researcher Aangirfan, she does excellent work:

    http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/trump-at-war-with-assad-and-putin.html

    10 key items showing false-flag nature of the Syrian gas attack absurdly attributed to Assad

    (1) Anti-Assad “reporter” Feras Karam tweeted about the gas attack in Syria 24 hours before it happened – Tweet says: “Tomorrow a media campaign will begin to cover intense air raids on the Hama countryside & use of chlorine against civilians”

    (2) Gas masks were distributed 2 days before the attack

    (3) Rescue workers are not wearing protective gear as they would if severely-toxic gas attack had occurred, as Anatoly Karlin notes above

    (4) Pakistani British doctor promoting Syria gas attack story, “who at the time of attack was taking interview requests instead of helping injured flooding in” is Dr Shajul Islam, “used as source by US & UK media, despite facing terror charges for kidnapping & torturing two British journalists in Syria & being struck off the medical register”

    (5) The USA & CIA were previously documented as having approved a “plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria & blame it on Assad’s regime’ … A 2013 article on this is deleted from the UK Daily Mail website, but is saved at Web Archive org’s Wayback Machine & there is a screenshot of it at Aangirfan’s excellent page above

    (6) Videos previously exposed as fraudulent are being recycled “A chemical weapons shipment run by Saudi mercenaries [is blown up] before it can be offloaded & used to attack the Syrian army in Hama … [this story] has turned into Syrian aircraft dropping sarin gas on orphanages … videos shot in Egypt with the smoke machines are dragged out again.”

    (7) Gas attack story is supported by known Soros-funded frauds ‘White Helmets’ who had previously celebrated alongside Israeli-Saudi backed ‘Al Qaeda’ extremists after seizing Idlib from Syrian Army forces. White Helmets “have been caught filming their fake videos in places like Egypt & Morocco, using actors, smoke machines & fake blood”.

    (8) The Turkey-based White Helmets in Syria, have been documented by the Swedish Doctors for Human Rights, as actually killing children on video ‘snuff films’ whilst pretending to be medically aiding them “None of the children in the videos showed any sign of being a victim of a chemical attack … a purposeful killing staged to appear as medical treatment” Article on ‘Swedish Medical Association says White Helmets Murdered Kids for Fake Gas Attack Videos” is on Veterans Today & linked on Aangirfan’s page above

    (9) The 2013 gas attack in Syria killing over 1000 people, was also proven to be an operation by USA & allies, with admissions to this effect by Turkish Members of Parliament … The operation even involved the CIA’s Google Inc monopoly search control internet domination tool, via their subsidiary Google Idea Groups & Jared Cohen:

    In 2014, the later-murdered journalist Serena Shim “stumbled upon a safehouse run by Jared Cohen & Google Idea Groups, a short distance from a border crossing into Syria between Hatay, Turkey & Aleppo province in Syria. In the safehouse were three Ukrainian secret service who had just buried a load of sarin gas shells from the Republic of Georgia. Chemical weapons used in the Ghouta war crime were trucked through Turkey to Gaziantep then taken from there to Aleppo by NGOs, hidden in ambulances or in trucks supposedly carrying relief aid. After Shim broke this story on PressTV … the clumsily-staged ‘accident’ leading to her death only a few days later.”

    (10) Destruction of Syria & Assad serves the long-being-implemented 1980s Israeli Oded Yinon Plan to destroy & dismember all major countries surrounding mafia state Israel, in general service to the world oligarchs. Plus, there are major US-backed economics behind the campaign to destroy Syria – Assad’s fall is sought for changing from the Russia-supported pipeline from Iran thru Iraq & Syria, to the USA-supported pipeline from Qatar thru Saudi Arabia, Jordan & Syria.

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  22. berserker says:

    What we have learnt is that dead baby pictures is all it takes to influence Western policy: Merkel did it and now Trump.

    For some reason, we never seem to get pictures from Yemen. Or for that matter victims of terror attacks in the West.

    There was no need for Assad to do what he did. The White Helmets are dubious. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights – the source used by much of the media – is one man operating out of an apartment in Coventry, UK.

    American policy appears to be strangely aligned with the Sunnis. They pay us good money for our services. Israel benefits as well.

    Next up, the Iranians. Then the real target: Russia.

    http://www.vox.com/2016/3/21/11275354/saudi-arabia-gulf-washington?

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/02/18/the-media-are-misleading-public-syria/8YB75otYirPzUCnlwaVtcK/story.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/12/syrian-opposition-doing-the-talking

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/10/01/journey-to-aleppo-part-i-exposing-the-truth-buried-under-nato-propaganda/

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    • Replies: @Basil31
    "What we have learnt is that dead baby pictures is all it takes to influence Western policy: Merkel did it and now Trump."

    I know it's partly due to decency, but I wonder why we never see pics of our dead, the latest a dismembered little girl on a Stockholm road way from the latest outrage. Pics like that - if they were published - would perhaps not influence Western policy but would influence the Western public.
    , @dfordoom

    Next up, the Iranians. Then the real target: Russia.
     
    Yep. That's the neocon plan and liberals are onboard with it because nasty Vlad won't go along with the radical homosexual agenda. Trump was the only chance of avoiding getting caught up in this madness.
  23. Randal says:

    Is President Trump really such an emotional ninny as to attack a foreign country because some images from their civil war upset him?

    Looks depressingly that way.

    One possibility being aired: The President has been captured by his daughter Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, who is one of his senior advisors. Well, that Thursday night address was definitely more girly than guyish and more Gen-X than Boomer. And speaking as the father of a princess myself, I know how susceptible we can be.

    Seems likely.

    And of course there are all the hard political and dual loyalty reasons why such people would seek to use that kind of emotional leverage, and why Trump might allow it to be used, in this case.

    The 2016 US presidential election was always akin to the choice faced by a prisoner forced to play Russian roulette and allowed to choose between a fully loaded revolver and one with at least one or two empty chambers. The choice was easy, and the right choice was made, but it just looks as though we got unlucky when the cylinder stopped spinning.

    All that remains is for the trigger to be pulled, and the US regime has been pulling the finger gradually tighter since the election.

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  24. Randal says:

    And all of that assumes that Tuesday’s gas attack in Syria actually was perpetrated by the Syrian air force against rebels.

    Oh, for goodness sake! It’s the exact same kind of bullshit perpetrated by the exact same kinds of people as the outright lies used to justify the disastrous invasion of Iraq in 2003. The only possible honest snap judgement, if we were compelled to make one, would be that it’s untrue until very convincing evidence has been produced for it, and properly examined in forensic detail by credible people on all sides of the issue. Needless to say, that hasn’t happened yet and of course won’t happen.

    You can learn a lot about the kind of media environment we really live in, in the modern US sphere, by observing the wall to wall credulousness of the mainstream media coverage of this obviously false war pretext, and the way it is almost universally just assumed (in almost all public mainstream material) to be truth, against all reasonable assessment of the possible motivations of the various parties, long before there has even been the possibility of credible investigation.

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  25. El Dato says:
    @major-tom
    The "gas attack" looked like a false-flag op to me. What did Assad have to gain? And if it had been nerve-gas, wouldn't the White Helmets doing the cleanup have been dead or dying? What evidence proves that Assad's forces dropped chemical weapons in an airstrike from the base we attacked? I haven't seen ANY. Just innuendo and the circularity of contrived agreement. (And your agreement carries a burden of proof, also.) I definitely agree with Ron Paul and Paul Craig Roberts about the attack. You might want to read what they have to say, if you haven't.

    It’s the [21 August 2013 / Muadamiyat al-Sham / Ghouta] gas attack all over again, which for some reason recently disappeared from the NYT’s list of confirmed Syrian Chemical Attacks:

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/04/06/nyt-retreats-on-2013-syria-sarin-claims/

    Also, never trust the White Helmets, which are just, well, “rebels” with White Helmets.

    > $62 million real estate

    My brain must be mush, I just don’t succeed in getting that rich. Fuu…….

    Incidentally, that’s about the value of the 50 rapidly deprecating cruise missiles that “it is cheaper to fire than to dismantle” (http://conscientia.fr/2017/04/07/frappe-us-en-syrie-la-nuit-des-dupes-masquait-un-joli-de-coup-de-billard/)

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  26. “Why are there apparently no restrictions at all on foreigners buying up our real estate?”

    Trump is the last person I would expect to be inclined towards such restrictions. “Foreigners buying up real estate” is pretty much the entire basis for his pre-presidential career as a developer.

    Regarding acting or not acting on immigration in general: Nothing Trump does will survive the leftist courts. Every action, no matter how incremental or sensible, will be struck down by some leftist judge somewhere in some obscure jurisdiction, legal incoherence of the ruling notwithstanding.

    Shoring up the federal courts first, then acting on immigration, makes more sense strategically. If immigration enforcement is Trump’s actual goal (which it may or may not be.)

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    • Replies: @bluedog
    You have that upside down very soon the Trump supporters like a jilted bride, will turn their backs on him as he fudges tweets and plays the games of musical chairs and try's to stumble thru 3 more years...
  27. R E S P E C T, find out what it means to me…la la dum…

    Once there was a poor little rich kid that no one respected and he got pushed around a lot. Now there’s a new kid in town and he wants respect. You have respect and bullies fear you, you won’t have to fight so much. The other bullies in town, they see you bloody up someone makes them think twice.

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  28. And if it was a false flag, the whole world now knows that if A is fighting B, and B is losing badly, and B figures that it would help for Uncle Sam to drop a few bombs on A, then a little staged atrocity theater will do the trick.

    It doesn’t even have to be a false flag for that effect to occur. It is enough that the Mohammadans believe it to be a false flag attack. How many jihadis do you think would prefer to believe that this was the result of an intelligent jihadi stratagem rather than their enemy killing large numbers of them and the US president getting outraged at the death of some random Mohammadans?

    In one narrative, the Mohammadans are strong and clever and have agency. In the other they are victims that elicit pity from their worst enemy.

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  29. Hubbub says:

    The Sob-Story Don. I agree with you, Derb. The Don used up his capital pretty quickly. He has nothing else to offer, if he cannot meet his obligations to the nation. I want to scream, “You’re fired!” And, done without shame. Babies, my ass.

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    I want to scream, “You’re fired!” And, done without shame.
     
    #FireKushner first of all, then detox/de-puppetize, then let's reconsider.
  30. I think you greatly underrate the Nixon argument. It doesn’t matter a damn that you or other Americas are right now upset snd uncertain of what you voted for. He would surely calculate, maybe wrongly but not irrationally, that he will have Xi and Putin moving very slowly and carefully to the extent that they might have been able to rely on past tweets or more formal statements. If he were to start building American island bases in the South China Sea wouldn’t Xi now fear the consequences of vigorous response.

    As for the sort of problem, of it is one, that Ms Li embodies, is it not a misjudgment of the proper priorities of the President that you expect him to have done something significant about it already?

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  31. 1KoolKat says:

    The other elephant in the room is……… Assad used a nerve agent then he never got rid of them from the unanimously approved UN resolution 2118 back in 2013. To my knowledge there are no discussions to (re)enforce UN Resolution 2118.

    What Trump should have done (in my opinion)

    1. Demand Inspectors be sent into Syria to determine if Assad still has Chem weapons
    2. Form an alliance of all the nations that signed 2118 (15 nations voted for none against)
    Both Russia and China voted for 2118 the elimination of all Chem weapons from Syria
    3. If Syria does not comply then use military force as a last resort

    What Trump did, shoot first and ask questions later.

    I admit I don’t know all the facts but something smells very fishy about this matter.

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  32. Doomed indeed.

    To every voter: YOU are responsible for every action your government takes because YOU choose to vote thereby giving scoundrels the opportunity to run your life.

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    • Replies: @Delinquent Snail
    So what do you suggest, don't vote? Thats been working great for decades. We need to organize as a people and remove these scumbags from power. The problem with that is, the powers that be will just infiltrate us and destabilize our efforts.
  33. KenH says:

    Donald J. BushRubioMcCain said:

    It was a slow and brutal death for so many. Even beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack. No child of God should ever suffer such horror.

    If Trump concerns himself with the well being of children would that include those who’ve been raped and molested by adults like Trump friend (((Jeffrey Epstein)))? Or all the young kids who’ve been used as sex toys on Epstein’s “pedophile island”? Should they be subjected to the horrors of sex slavery?

    Is it OK to rape children as long as the rapists don’t use deadly chemical agents?

    If Trump were true to his principles then he would launch tomahawk missile strikes at pedophile island.

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  34. Hail says: • Website

    For those unaware, both the boyfriends involved with the Chinese young woman who put up $70 million in bail were Black.

    She doesn’t seem to have been disowned by the good ol’ ethnic network despite this.

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    Wait a minute; why are dudes who look like that "black" when a felony is committed, and "mostly white", when they run a sub 4.5, 40, or a president appoints them for a job?
  35. Agent76 says:

    March 26 2017 Trump’s War on Terror Has Quickly Become as Barbaric and Savage as He Promised

    FROM THE START of his presidency, Donald Trump’s “war on terror” has entailed the seemingly indiscriminate slaughter of innocent people in the name of killing terrorists. In other words, Trump has escalated the 16-year-old core premise of America’s foreign policy — that it has the right to bomb any country in the world where people it regards as terrorists are found — and in doing so, has fulfilled the warped campaign pledges he repeatedly expressed.

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  36. Hail says: • Website

    Glad to see a consistent disapproval of this Syria Attack, to which I now add JDerb’s. He even identifies the Puppetized Trump theory (as I call it), which I find plausible.

    The Sean Hannity wing and FoxNews seems to have taken an editorial line of even more vigorous support for Puppetized Trump than they did for Nationalist Trump.

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  37. Agent76 says:

    February 12, 2017 U.S. Special Forces Deployed To 70% Of The World In 2016

    American special operations troops deployed to 138 nations last year or 70 percent of the world’s countries according to official Special Operations Command data published by TomDispatch. 55.29 percent of deployments were in the Middle East, a 35 percent decease since 2006. In Africa, deployments of elite U.S. forces skyrocketed 1,600 percent during the same timeframe.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46435.htm

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  38. mp says:

    Why would the Chinese even give a crap about this race traitor scumbag?

    You have to think like a Chinese in order to understand. First, it’s likely to be her family who came up with the money, not “Chinese” in general. Unlike things in most of the West, family is important to Chinese, and comes first. The civic stuff comes next. Second, Chinese would only consider her a “race traitor” if she married beneath her race. For them, whites are usually OK. It’s the darker hues that would be a problem. Or if she married a Japanese.

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    Why would the Chinese even give a crap about this race traitor scumbag?

    Have to modify my comment. Evidently the woman liked the dark side. As for the money? It was inherited. I'm sure her ancestors are speaking to King Yama about her situation, at this very moment.
    , @Hail

    Chinese would only consider her a “race traitor” if she married beneath her race.
     
    Both the boyfriends are Black, Google search tells me. Am I wrong? Her children are half-Black.
  39. Since Derbyshire has always been immeasurably cynical on every subject, I’m not surprised that he’s buying into “Trump is a vain/shallow/opportunistic/idiotic/incoherent blunderer” story that’s been sold by the media ever since he announced his run for the Presidency. However, as I said on other threads, I don’t think this view is compatible with reality, even though it makes for nice juicy Doomsaying posts and comments.

    Derbyshire, and most of the posters here, seem to take it for granted that Trump has no mind or will of his own, and that he’s a sort of Pinocchio being pulled back and forth between Jiminy Cricket (Bannon) and Foulfellow the Fox (Kushner). Trump was talking about his signature trade and immigration issues as far back as the 1980s, long before he ever met Bannon; Bannon also didn’t come on board in his campaign until fairly late in the game. I definitely wish Trump hadn’t stuck his foot into the Syrian mess, but, unless he makes a more definite move (which God forbid), it seems to me that he’s almost certainly made this token strike merely to (1) silence the “Russian puppet” accusation, (2) forestall his enemies in both parties from claiming that his quasi-approval of Assad emboldened Assad’s alleged gas attack, and (3) throw a little scare into China, North Korea, and Iran. I don’t think he did it simply because Kushner suggested it to him, or because Ivanka started crying over pictures of gassed babies; to believe that, I’d have have to believe that he’s the mindless empty vessel that his enemies have painted him as, and he’s come too far for me to ever believe that.

    If Trump’s improbable political career has shown anything, it’s that he’s not just the sum of the people around him. I remember hearing the doomsayers proclaiming that it was all over when Lewandowski was dumped for the slicker and shadier Manafort, or when Kellyanne Conway (with her dubious record on illegal immigration) came on board the campaign, and the doom didn’t come to pass. Also, Bannon hasn’t even been dumped yet; he went with Trump on Air Force One to the meeting with the Chinese, for goodness sake. In the meantime, we have Gorsuch on the Supreme Court (instead of Garland, or–gag–Obama, who might well have been put there by Hillary), we have Sessions as AG cracking down on sanctuary cities instead of Loretta Lynch strapping racism-detecting body-cams to Ferguson policemen, and we have bids being taken on the Great Border Wall. Until I see boots on the ground in Syria, I’ll continue to be far more pleased than disappointed by the outcome of the election.

    More support for the idea that this Syria strike was primarily a gesture and not the prelude to Nation Building, Bush-style: this interview with Dr. Sebastian Gorka, who’s supposedly one of Trump’s major advisers on Middle East/terrorism issues:

    http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/04/07/gorka-syria-not-full-throated-war-deployment-just-surgical-missile-strike/

    Important Quotes from the interview:

    “Nothing has changed in the president’s policy to the use of force in international affairs. He said during the campaign, and he’s been explicit since he came into office, that he is not interested – this is not the second Bush administration. We are not interested in invading countries and occupying them. He understands why that is not a good idea and why fundamentally it’s un-American. We were born in rejection of imperialism, not to reinforce it.”

    “This is not Gulf I, nor is this 2003. This is a cruise missile strike against an air facility involved in a chemical attack on civilians. People need to understand that. This is not a full-throated war deployment. It is a surgical strike using missiles. I’d like people to think about that for a second. I understand the isolationist imperative, but weapons of mass destruction are in a very special category.”

    “I know the president, and I know what he thinks” about the slippery slope into larger actions of the Iraq War variety.

    “All I’m saying is I know the president, and I know his attitude to what happened in the last sixteen years. You can take that to the bank, my friend.”

    I really don’t know where Gorka comes down on the Neoconnery scale, but I do know he’s been repeatedly smeared as a Nazi by the media, so he must have some value in the Trump administration. His critical attitude towards the Bush years, and his claim that Trump feels the same way, is quite heartening. Obviously, I disagree that even the use of the dreaded WMDs justifies foreign involvement, but his emphasizing the chemical attack stuff strengthens, to me, my theory that Trump did this to put on a show of zero tolerance for disapproved weapons for the benefit of other states, and to stop anyone from saying “See, you said you would leave Assad alone,and he celebrated by breaking out the gas bombs immediately.”

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    • Replies: @Emblematic
    The problem is, if the gas attack was indeed a false flag, it's been rewarded. That lesson will not have gone unnoticed. What will Trump do now if there is another even worse (staged) gas attack? He has painted himself into a corner and the pressure to intervene will be enormous. And not just in Syria. Will a made-for-the-cameras atrocity be enough to get Trump's intervention in the Ukraine? Against Iran? You can bet Israel is planning their next big move into southern Lebanon - a staged atrocity blamed on Hezbollah should be enough.
    , @joe webb
    you are possibly correct, but probably not correct. I have observed Trump's not completely neocon policy toward Israel, and have given him the benefit of the doubt.

    Now I suspect that, more than just catering to an Amen Corner to get elected, that he is a jew/Israel lover, and does not understand or does understand the Jewish Wars of our time and consequently is a Crusader.

    Burn your Trump cap.

    Joe Webb
  40. Che Guava says:

    Good post, Mr. Derbyshire.

    I am not a USA person, but it is also very depressing from afar.

    The circumstances of Flynn’s ouster were sinister. He may have been a voice of reason on this lunatic attack.

    That all three of Trump’s married children have married into Zionism (perhaps less so for Don Jr., but he’s not in the WH) was never a good sign.

    Speaking of which, whose agent can we suppose Kuschner to be? His position is bizarre and unseemly.

    I read last week of senior border patrol people on the ground saying ‘i wish I never voted for him’ because of the Obama appointee Trump has put in charge of them. That gave me a sinking feeling for you Americans, their support was an important symbol.

    The notorious traitor ‘Songbird’ McCain had his first good words for Trump after the missile attack.

    Media

    I looked at Breitbart ‘News’ yesterday. It was always obvious to me and others, but now they may as well scream ‘We are really just extreme zio-cons, ha, ha, suckers!’ True colours now obvious to any moron.

    The Guardian‘s coverage was much the same. Extreme left? They love wars and hate Corbyn, for carrying a little old-left inheritance.

    Extreme Blairite, extreme neo-liberal, extreme SJW when it comes to Europe and most English-speakimg countries.

    Gas

    Gas had been used as a weapon in the previous big war; everyone assumed it would play a major role in the new one.
    It didn’t. Germany knew if they used it on Britain, the Brits would use it right back. Deterrence worked.

    For gas agents, the Germans were many years ahead of anybody else at the time. The first other comparable nerve agent was developed in early ’50s Britain (like their nuclear weapons related research, they foolishly ‘shared’ it gratis with their American ‘allies’).

    The Germans did not avoid using these weapons because of deterrence:there was nothing for them to deter.

    In fact, Hitler personally ordered that the large stockpiles of unmatched gas weapons not be used, doubtless from humanitarian reasoning.

    Using them could have made a crucial difference at many points.

    The USA had no qualms about atomic bombing two largely civilian-pypulated cities.

    Had something to add on your last theme, but this is already looong.

    To the mods, i tried to post a slightly different version of this much earlier, but the site was having problems. Interesting timing, given the main topic
    of the two articles.

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    ...and the allies shipped mustard gas into Italy. Might be useful, right. The ships then got sunk in-harbor, leading to weird chemicals floating around.

    "Mysterious illnesses" then occurred.

    COUGH COUGH.

    Us? Never!
    , @Diversity Heretic
    The German decision not to use gas was not entirely humanitarian. While the Germans were in fact far ahead of the Allies in the development of nerve agents, their reading of articles in chemical journals led them to conclude incorrectly that the Allies had similar chemical technology.

    The Allies always had chemical agents not too far behind the lines and serious consideration was given to using mustard gas on dug-in Japanese on Iwo Jima.
  41. mp says:
    @mp
    Why would the Chinese even give a crap about this race traitor scumbag?

    You have to think like a Chinese in order to understand. First, it's likely to be her family who came up with the money, not "Chinese" in general. Unlike things in most of the West, family is important to Chinese, and comes first. The civic stuff comes next. Second, Chinese would only consider her a "race traitor" if she married beneath her race. For them, whites are usually OK. It's the darker hues that would be a problem. Or if she married a Japanese.

    Why would the Chinese even give a crap about this race traitor scumbag?

    Have to modify my comment. Evidently the woman liked the dark side. As for the money? It was inherited. I’m sure her ancestors are speaking to King Yama about her situation, at this very moment.

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    Have to modify my comment. Evidently the woman liked the dark side. As for the money? It was inherited.
     
    Wait a minute, Chairman Mao, what happened to the "Chinese Family Love" you were all over 3 posts ago?
  42. Oldeguy says:

    A few months ago, prior to the election, Linh Dinh ( one of the triumvirate of matchless writers-the other two being Fred and Derb-that keep me coming to Unz ) penned an article to the effect that Trump’s candidacy was a hustle and con by the Wall Street/Deep State nexus to give faux red meat to the rubes.
    The commentariat here at Unz reacted with a mixture of scorn, outrage and contempt.
    I wonder if those same individuals feel the same way now ?

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    as a hustle and con by the Wall Street/Deep State nexus to give faux red meat to the rubes.
     
    Trump's Puppetization, as has now occured, is not necessarily equivalent to that conspiracy theory but the outcomes may be similar.

    Still chalk 2016 up to a victory.
    The opposition lives on without Puppetized Trump if need be.

    , @Truth

    A few months ago, prior to the election, Linh Dinh ( one of the triumvirate of matchless writers-the other two being Fred and Derb-that keep me coming to Unz ) penned an article to the effect that Trump’s candidacy was a hustle and con by the Wall Street/Deep State nexus to give faux red meat to the rubes.
     
    Hey, Dinh is the smartest poster here, and he's from a country with like an 81 IQ, how does that work?

    Oh, and he married a broad who looks like him!

    (Of course, not one to toot his own horn, but Your Truly, WENT ON RECORD as spotting out this whole silly charade years ago, and I'm from a country with like a 47 IQ, so what does that mean?)


    *Federico, I know you didn't buy into this nonsense either, just having a little fun.

  43. Wally says:
    @Godfree Roberts
    All good but for "China, one of the most corrupt countries in the world".

    China's far less corrupt than The Land of the Free, though that's setting the bar low. Here's why:

    1. Corrupt governments don't prosecute 300,000 corruption cases annually.
    2. Corrupt governments don't lift 800,000,000 people out of poverty in 70 years.
    3. Corrupt governments don't double every worker's wages every 10 years.
    4. Corrupt governments don't allow 80% of people to own their homes outright.
    5. Corrupt governments don't have empty prisons
    6. Corrupt governments don't have safe streets.
    7. Corrupt governments aren't trusted by 80% of their people.
    8. Corrupt governments' policies don't get 93% public approval.

    I could go on, but China's government is not corrupt.

    Sure, just ask the Tibetans.

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    ...the Tibetans.
     
    Wally, is there only one synthetic narrative that you are able to see through and you buy into the rest of them?
    , @DB Cooper
    "Sure, just ask the Tibetans."

    Please, go to China and ask the Tibetans. In case you don't know studies done by Western sociologist has found that the Tibetans in China are more Chinese nationalistic than their Han counterparts.
    , @Godfree Roberts
    Funnily enough, an American professor did ask the Tibetans. In a survey conducted in 2000 the renowned Tibetologists Melvyn Goldstein, Cynthia Beall, Ben Jiao and Phuntsog Tsering asked a sample of Tibetans from across the TAR “Do You Have a Better Life Now Than Your Parents Did?  One of the cohorts of that sample (N=150) is the age group between 60-79. In 2000, that means that they were born roughly between 1920-1940. That means their parents lived almost entirely before Chinese policies were instituted after 1959.

    An astounding ~90% answered 'Yes,' that is, their lives are indeed better than that of their parents.

    That's hardly surprising, given that 70% of them had been slaves or serfs under the Dalai Lama, and, now free, they have doubled their population and life expectancy and quadrupled their personal incomes.

    Nor should we forget their country's horrifying experience at the hands of the British.

    A 2008 exhibition of posters showing Norfolk’s historical connexions with China in Norfolk put it this way: “The machine gunners slaughtered the Tibetan soldiers; thirteen hundred died in the massacre. ‘I got so sick of the slaughter that I ceased fire, though the general’s order was to make as big a bag as possible’, wrote Lieutenant Arthur Hadow, commander of the machine-gun detachment. ’I hope I shall never again have to shoot down men walking away’.”

    The British invading force was led by Colonel Francis Younghusband. The New York Times March 31, 1904 reported: “BRITISH SLAUGHTER ARMY OF TIBETANS; Hundreds Mowed Down By Artillery After Being Surrounded. LHASA GENERAL IS KILLED Tibetans Demanded That Invaders Retire, and Fighting Was Precipitated by Effort to Disarm Them.

    TANU, March 31. — News has been received here of severe fighting, the Tibetans having attacked the British mission under Col Younghusband. There were two engagements, and the Tibetans were repulsed with heavy loss. The British captured the Tibetan camp at Guru. While the British advance had practically been unopposed, the expedition suffered great hardship from the intense cold, and it was sometimes found impossible to use the Maxim guns and rifles, owing to the congealing of the oil. … Among the Tibetans killed were the Lhasa General, the military commandant of Phari and Lata, and the representative of the Golden Monastery, to whose influence and violent hostility the existing difficulties are largely due.” When the reports of the massacre reached England, it proved to be too much for the public to stomach, and Col. Younghusband came under heavy criticism, as this April 2, 1904 report from The New York Times shows: “SLAUGHTER IN TIBET ROUSES ENGLAND; Possibility That Col. Younghusband May Be Recalled.
  44. Truth says:

    Still, I don’t think any of us thought the cucking would come so swiftly.

    Well, one of “us” did.

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  45. Hail says: • Website
    @mp
    Why would the Chinese even give a crap about this race traitor scumbag?

    You have to think like a Chinese in order to understand. First, it's likely to be her family who came up with the money, not "Chinese" in general. Unlike things in most of the West, family is important to Chinese, and comes first. The civic stuff comes next. Second, Chinese would only consider her a "race traitor" if she married beneath her race. For them, whites are usually OK. It's the darker hues that would be a problem. Or if she married a Japanese.

    Chinese would only consider her a “race traitor” if she married beneath her race.

    Both the boyfriends are Black, Google search tells me. Am I wrong? Her children are half-Black.

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  46. Truth says:

    It’s hard to see what the U.S.A. gained by admitting her as a permanent resident. Or rather, it’s all too easy to see what we gained: We gained another infusion of the kind of shameless, rampant corruption that the Chinese Communist Party allows and encourages,
    On the scale of things our new administration ought to be doing, exercising a little more care — make that a lot more care — over who gets settlement rights in the U.S.A.

    Rather than burdening ourselves with more vetting and scrutiny of the million or so legal residents we admit every year, why not simplify things with an immigration moratorium?

    Wives and dependent children of citizens;

    We have a third of a billion people; why do we need to import more?

    Derb, I’m really starting to appreciate your intentional Mockery of the Proles. It’s funny shit, I don’t know why I took you seriously before.

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  47. Hail says: • Website
    @Oldeguy
    A few months ago, prior to the election, Linh Dinh ( one of the triumvirate of matchless writers-the other two being Fred and Derb-that keep me coming to Unz ) penned an article to the effect that Trump's candidacy was a hustle and con by the Wall Street/Deep State nexus to give faux red meat to the rubes.
    The commentariat here at Unz reacted with a mixture of scorn, outrage and contempt.
    I wonder if those same individuals feel the same way now ?

    as a hustle and con by the Wall Street/Deep State nexus to give faux red meat to the rubes.

    Trump’s Puppetization, as has now occured, is not necessarily equivalent to that conspiracy theory but the outcomes may be similar.

    Still chalk 2016 up to a victory.
    The opposition lives on without Puppetized Trump if need be.

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  48. Hail says: • Website
    @Hubbub
    The Sob-Story Don. I agree with you, Derb. The Don used up his capital pretty quickly. He has nothing else to offer, if he cannot meet his obligations to the nation. I want to scream, "You're fired!" And, done without shame. Babies, my ass.

    I want to scream, “You’re fired!” And, done without shame.

    #FireKushner first of all, then detox/de-puppetize, then let’s reconsider.

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  49. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    {If President Trump himself is to be believed, the bombing was inspired by his own feelings of outrage at seeing pictures of little children who had been killed by the poison gas:}

    Then, why Israel was burning and killing Palestinian children with phosphorus he like other war criminals including Obama and Killary singing “Israel has a right to defend itself”? Why did they not move by the pictures of the burned beautiful babies, more than 500 of them, not even their dicks moved a bit.

    Only dummies believe the word of this illiterate salesman of brothel houses, escort, hotels. He is a pathological liaaaaaaaaar.

    He is a Zionist servant to help Israel by receiving advice from a criminal Zionist, Kushner ,to continue the plan, Oded Yinon, that was activated STAGING 9/11. Only stupid people believe
    a word of these criminal Zionist servants.

    If he was not lying, then why he decorated his regime with war criminals, terrorists and Zionist thieves?
    He knows shit about history and the middle east. He said he does not read anything, but only his ‘guts’

    Stupid people must stop pretending they thought he would be different. NO, he will be worse than others. Obama so far is the most savage in the history of the presidency, so Killary.

    He is continuing the USG/Israel plan dummmmmmmmmies.

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    {If President Trump himself is to be believed...
     
    OK let's just quit here and take a loss. Saves keystrokes.
  50. Truth says:
    @john cronk
    The Saker, who posts here in the Unz Review, Ann Coulter, and John Derbyshire are each worried about some of these issues, and I don't fault them for it. They worry me too. But from observing Trump I have a guess about him. I think he's smart. I think he has a sophisticated way of seeming to give something away to his opponents while actually keeping what's important. This disarms and distracts them, to his advantage. He fakes out both his enemies and his friends, and then we find out later that he knew what he was doing all along.
    As I said before - he's nimble.

    But from observing Trump I have a guess about him. I think he’s smart. I think he has a sophisticated way of seeming to give something away to his opponents while actually keeping what’s important. This disarms and distracts them, to his advantage. He fakes out both his enemies and his friends, and then we find out later that he knew what he was doing all along.
    As I said before – he’s nimble.

    LMFAO! “It’s the old; drop-Sarin-gas-on-the-locals-with-disguised-American-aircraft-and-pretend-Assad-did-it-so-that-we-can-instigate-the-Russians-into-WWIII, trick!”*

    *You won’t get that unless your at least 40.

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    Actually "Get Smart" is on cable these days, so even the Millennials would understand that one
  51. Truth says:
    @Hail
    For those unaware, both the boyfriends involved with the Chinese young woman who put up $70 million in bail were Black.

    She doesn't seem to have been disowned by the good ol' ethnic network despite this.

    Wait a minute; why are dudes who look like that “black” when a felony is committed, and “mostly white”, when they run a sub 4.5, 40, or a president appoints them for a job?

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    The original boyfriend, murdered, has substantial White blood and looks like Barry Obama in some picture like this one but is definitely Black by U.S. standards. Not sure which of the two accomplices in the murder is the new boyfriend; all three men are Black by U.S. standards and, I presume, Chinese standards.

    https://twitter.com/Hail__To_You/status/850739058829660166
  52. Truth says:
    @mp
    Why would the Chinese even give a crap about this race traitor scumbag?

    Have to modify my comment. Evidently the woman liked the dark side. As for the money? It was inherited. I'm sure her ancestors are speaking to King Yama about her situation, at this very moment.

    Have to modify my comment. Evidently the woman liked the dark side. As for the money? It was inherited.

    Wait a minute, Chairman Mao, what happened to the “Chinese Family Love” you were all over 3 posts ago?

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    Wait a minute, Chairman Mao, what happened to the “Chinese Family Love” you were all over 3 posts ago?

    Wrote too soon. I never heard of a Chinese girl doing this sort of thing. But I'll admit when I get it wrong. On the other hand, clearly this woman was not under the influence of Tiger Mom. I once knew a mainland woman living in LA. She told me her son should marry in the following order: a)mainland China girl; b) HK girl; c) white guy; d) Korean. Off limits in this order were a) Taiwanese; b) Japanese; c) black.
  53. Truth says:
    @Oldeguy
    A few months ago, prior to the election, Linh Dinh ( one of the triumvirate of matchless writers-the other two being Fred and Derb-that keep me coming to Unz ) penned an article to the effect that Trump's candidacy was a hustle and con by the Wall Street/Deep State nexus to give faux red meat to the rubes.
    The commentariat here at Unz reacted with a mixture of scorn, outrage and contempt.
    I wonder if those same individuals feel the same way now ?

    A few months ago, prior to the election, Linh Dinh ( one of the triumvirate of matchless writers-the other two being Fred and Derb-that keep me coming to Unz ) penned an article to the effect that Trump’s candidacy was a hustle and con by the Wall Street/Deep State nexus to give faux red meat to the rubes.

    Hey, Dinh is the smartest poster here, and he’s from a country with like an 81 IQ, how does that work?

    Oh, and he married a broad who looks like him!

    (Of course, not one to toot his own horn, but Your Truly, WENT ON RECORD as spotting out this whole silly charade years ago, and I’m from a country with like a 47 IQ, so what does that mean?)

    *Federico, I know you didn’t buy into this nonsense either, just having a little fun.

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    "Dinh is the smartest poster here..."

    Wow, Truth.

    So it was you.
  54. Truth says:
    @anonymous
    {If President Trump himself is to be believed, the bombing was inspired by his own feelings of outrage at seeing pictures of little children who had been killed by the poison gas:}

    Then, why Israel was burning and killing Palestinian children with phosphorus he like other war criminals including Obama and Killary singing "Israel has a right to defend itself"? Why did they not move by the pictures of the burned beautiful babies, more than 500 of them, not even their dicks moved a bit.

    Only dummies believe the word of this illiterate salesman of brothel houses, escort, hotels. He is a pathological liaaaaaaaaar.

    He is a Zionist servant to help Israel by receiving advice from a criminal Zionist, Kushner ,to continue the plan, Oded Yinon, that was activated STAGING 9/11. Only stupid people believe
    a word of these criminal Zionist servants.

    If he was not lying, then why he decorated his regime with war criminals, terrorists and Zionist thieves?
    He knows shit about history and the middle east. He said he does not read anything, but only his 'guts'

    Stupid people must stop pretending they thought he would be different. NO, he will be worse than others. Obama so far is the most savage in the history of the presidency, so Killary.


    He is continuing the USG/Israel plan dummmmmmmmmies.

    {If President Trump himself is to be believed…

    OK let’s just quit here and take a loss. Saves keystrokes.

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  55. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Nikolai Vladivostok
    Golly, look at that lady. There should be a rule that if the immigration officer at the airport thinks you look like a nutter, you're not allowed into the country.

    Anti-nuttist bigot!

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  56. DES says:

    One further entry for your list of things Trump should be, but is not, doing: Get control of the IC’s surveillance operations of ordinary Americans. He is justifiably enraged when he learns that he has been “wiretapped.” What about the rest of us? One gets the feeling that it’s all about him. He appears to have the intellectual depth, emotional development and ego-centrism of your average 14-year-old. (P.S. I voted for him.)

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  57. Hail says: • Website
    @Truth
    Wait a minute; why are dudes who look like that "black" when a felony is committed, and "mostly white", when they run a sub 4.5, 40, or a president appoints them for a job?

    The original boyfriend, murdered, has substantial White blood and looks like Barry Obama in some picture like this one but is definitely Black by U.S. standards. Not sure which of the two accomplices in the murder is the new boyfriend; all three men are Black by U.S. standards and, I presume, Chinese standards.

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    • Replies: @Truth
    Oh, great, "Kaveh Bayat" is black now. What about his cousin "Muhammad Bayat" who died in Syria a few days ago?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaveh_(name)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayat_(name)
    , @Stebbing Heuer
    Goodbye America.
    , @marty
    Yo dummies, the new boyfriend, Bayat, like all Persians undoubtedly considers himself to be "aryan."
  58. Trump has signaled that he is now in the pocket of the Zionists who have deemed that the Assad regime must go. This is bad for America and can only lead to problems with Putin in the upcoming summit in Iceland. This is the first summit between the U.S. and Russia (Soviets) since 1980 when Reagan met with Gorbachev.

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  59. @Manfred Arcane
    Since Derbyshire has always been immeasurably cynical on every subject, I'm not surprised that he's buying into “Trump is a vain/shallow/opportunistic/idiotic/incoherent blunderer” story that’s been sold by the media ever since he announced his run for the Presidency. However, as I said on other threads, I don't think this view is compatible with reality, even though it makes for nice juicy Doomsaying posts and comments.

    Derbyshire, and most of the posters here, seem to take it for granted that Trump has no mind or will of his own, and that he’s a sort of Pinocchio being pulled back and forth between Jiminy Cricket (Bannon) and Foulfellow the Fox (Kushner). Trump was talking about his signature trade and immigration issues as far back as the 1980s, long before he ever met Bannon; Bannon also didn’t come on board in his campaign until fairly late in the game. I definitely wish Trump hadn’t stuck his foot into the Syrian mess, but, unless he makes a more definite move (which God forbid), it seems to me that he’s almost certainly made this token strike merely to (1) silence the “Russian puppet” accusation, (2) forestall his enemies in both parties from claiming that his quasi-approval of Assad emboldened Assad’s alleged gas attack, and (3) throw a little scare into China, North Korea, and Iran. I don’t think he did it simply because Kushner suggested it to him, or because Ivanka started crying over pictures of gassed babies; to believe that, I’d have have to believe that he’s the mindless empty vessel that his enemies have painted him as, and he’s come too far for me to ever believe that.

    If Trump’s improbable political career has shown anything, it’s that he’s not just the sum of the people around him. I remember hearing the doomsayers proclaiming that it was all over when Lewandowski was dumped for the slicker and shadier Manafort, or when Kellyanne Conway (with her dubious record on illegal immigration) came on board the campaign, and the doom didn’t come to pass. Also, Bannon hasn’t even been dumped yet; he went with Trump on Air Force One to the meeting with the Chinese, for goodness sake. In the meantime, we have Gorsuch on the Supreme Court (instead of Garland, or–gag–Obama, who might well have been put there by Hillary), we have Sessions as AG cracking down on sanctuary cities instead of Loretta Lynch strapping racism-detecting body-cams to Ferguson policemen, and we have bids being taken on the Great Border Wall. Until I see boots on the ground in Syria, I’ll continue to be far more pleased than disappointed by the outcome of the election.

    More support for the idea that this Syria strike was primarily a gesture and not the prelude to Nation Building, Bush-style: this interview with Dr. Sebastian Gorka, who’s supposedly one of Trump’s major advisers on Middle East/terrorism issues:

    http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/04/07/gorka-syria-not-full-throated-war-deployment-just-surgical-missile-strike/

    Important Quotes from the interview:

    “Nothing has changed in the president’s policy to the use of force in international affairs. He said during the campaign, and he’s been explicit since he came into office, that he is not interested – this is not the second Bush administration. We are not interested in invading countries and occupying them. He understands why that is not a good idea and why fundamentally it’s un-American. We were born in rejection of imperialism, not to reinforce it.”

    “This is not Gulf I, nor is this 2003. This is a cruise missile strike against an air facility involved in a chemical attack on civilians. People need to understand that. This is not a full-throated war deployment. It is a surgical strike using missiles. I’d like people to think about that for a second. I understand the isolationist imperative, but weapons of mass destruction are in a very special category.”

    “I know the president, and I know what he thinks” about the slippery slope into larger actions of the Iraq War variety.

    “All I’m saying is I know the president, and I know his attitude to what happened in the last sixteen years. You can take that to the bank, my friend.”

    I really don’t know where Gorka comes down on the Neoconnery scale, but I do know he’s been repeatedly smeared as a Nazi by the media, so he must have some value in the Trump administration. His critical attitude towards the Bush years, and his claim that Trump feels the same way, is quite heartening. Obviously, I disagree that even the use of the dreaded WMDs justifies foreign involvement, but his emphasizing the chemical attack stuff strengthens, to me, my theory that Trump did this to put on a show of zero tolerance for disapproved weapons for the benefit of other states, and to stop anyone from saying “See, you said you would leave Assad alone,and he celebrated by breaking out the gas bombs immediately.”

    The problem is, if the gas attack was indeed a false flag, it’s been rewarded. That lesson will not have gone unnoticed. What will Trump do now if there is another even worse (staged) gas attack? He has painted himself into a corner and the pressure to intervene will be enormous. And not just in Syria. Will a made-for-the-cameras atrocity be enough to get Trump’s intervention in the Ukraine? Against Iran? You can bet Israel is planning their next big move into southern Lebanon – a staged atrocity blamed on Hezbollah should be enough.

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    The problem is, if the gas attack was indeed a false flag, it’s been rewarded. That lesson will not have gone unnoticed.

     

    Indeed not. Former UK ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford, on RT:

    https://youtu.be/KZuaJ_Arqfg
  60. Truth says:
    @Hail
    The original boyfriend, murdered, has substantial White blood and looks like Barry Obama in some picture like this one but is definitely Black by U.S. standards. Not sure which of the two accomplices in the murder is the new boyfriend; all three men are Black by U.S. standards and, I presume, Chinese standards.

    https://twitter.com/Hail__To_You/status/850739058829660166

    Oh, great, “Kaveh Bayat” is black now. What about his cousin “Muhammad Bayat” who died in Syria a few days ago?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaveh_(name)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayat_(name)

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  61. gda says:
    @Anonymous
    Jared Kushner is the Key.

    Who are all of these family members of Trump making decisions about my life? Remember how that worked out with Hillary care?

    Kushner is a lifelong Democrat.

    Why would Trump do this? The answer is simple. He doesn't want to be an outcast post President. We wants to golf and have people adore him like Arnold.

    Trump’s instincts are to tread the middle path. His most trusted advisors are his daughter and her husband, both Democrats.

    Trump instincts keep him from the crazy PC Dems. But he is vulnerable, in that he wants to be loved.

    Sorry if you’re disappointed in what you’re getting now. But if you were listening all along over the last 2 years you would know that Trumpism crosses both left and right ideologies. In general, he takes the reasonable, sensible, common sense path and borrows from both.

    You got your SC Justice. He’s serious about immigration. He’s reducing regulations. He’s doing a lot of good things WHERE HE CAN. But lets be honest. The forces arrayed against him are indeed formidable. He’s not going to get some of the things done that the folk on this site want and expect.

    But what? You would have preferred maybe Clinton? Get a little perspective, please.

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  62. El Dato says:
    @Che Guava
    Good post, Mr. Derbyshire.

    I am not a USA person, but it is also very depressing from afar.

    The circumstances of Flynn's ouster were sinister. He may have been a voice of reason on this lunatic attack.

    That all three of Trump's married children have married into Zionism (perhaps less so for Don Jr., but he's not in the WH) was never a good sign.

    Speaking of which, whose agent can we suppose Kuschner to be? His position is bizarre and unseemly.

    I read last week of senior border patrol people on the ground saying 'i wish I never voted for him' because of the Obama appointee Trump has put in charge of them. That gave me a sinking feeling for you Americans, their support was an important symbol.

    The notorious traitor 'Songbird' McCain had his first good words for Trump after the missile attack.

    Media

    I looked at Breitbart 'News' yesterday. It was always obvious to me and others, but now they may as well scream 'We are really just extreme zio-cons, ha, ha, suckers!' True colours now obvious to any moron.

    The Guardian's coverage was much the same. Extreme left? They love wars and hate Corbyn, for carrying a little old-left inheritance.

    Extreme Blairite, extreme neo-liberal, extreme SJW when it comes to Europe and most English-speakimg countries.

    Gas

    Gas had been used as a weapon in the previous big war; everyone assumed it would play a major role in the new one.
    It didn’t. Germany knew if they used it on Britain, the Brits would use it right back. Deterrence worked.
     
    For gas agents, the Germans were many years ahead of anybody else at the time. The first other comparable nerve agent was developed in early '50s Britain (like their nuclear weapons related research, they foolishly 'shared' it gratis with their American 'allies').

    The Germans did not avoid using these weapons because of deterrence:there was nothing for them to deter.

    In fact, Hitler personally ordered that the large stockpiles of unmatched gas weapons not be used, doubtless from humanitarian reasoning.

    Using them could have made a crucial difference at many points.

    The USA had no qualms about atomic bombing two largely civilian-pypulated cities.

    Had something to add on your last theme, but this is already looong.

    To the mods, i tried to post a slightly different version of this much earlier, but the site was having problems. Interesting timing, given the main topic
    of the two articles.

    …and the allies shipped mustard gas into Italy. Might be useful, right. The ships then got sunk in-harbor, leading to weird chemicals floating around.

    “Mysterious illnesses” then occurred.

    COUGH COUGH.

    Us? Never!

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    Well put.

    I vaguely remember reading of something like that, long ago.

    It also killed numerous US sailors.

    While looking into that, I found two more incidents.

    The Poles bombed a bridge, part of what they used was mustard gas supplied by the British. This only exploded after German soldiers arrived, two dead, fourteen affected.

    Our historian Yoshiaki Yoshimi, found evidence in Maryland that the US *had* used gas on Japan in the late stages.

    Since he is the type of historian that most politicians and media here hate (he has also done much work on Japan's use of gas in China, and on the military brothels), I take it as reliable.

    The article is here.

    http://www.rense.com/general83/gas.htm
  63. Flavius says:

    Good article – we all knew that Jared and Ivanka’s excellent trip to the White House meant trouble. That’s on Trump. It demonstrates the guy’s deep insecurity and this intemperate, injudicious, self-defeating, dumbass move in Syria puts a cap on it. Prospects are not good – how do you fire your sentimental snow flake kin? As Peter Hitchens wrote in his article today on the subject, it about makes a person physically sick

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  64. El Dato says:
    @Emblematic
    The problem is, if the gas attack was indeed a false flag, it's been rewarded. That lesson will not have gone unnoticed. What will Trump do now if there is another even worse (staged) gas attack? He has painted himself into a corner and the pressure to intervene will be enormous. And not just in Syria. Will a made-for-the-cameras atrocity be enough to get Trump's intervention in the Ukraine? Against Iran? You can bet Israel is planning their next big move into southern Lebanon - a staged atrocity blamed on Hezbollah should be enough.

    The problem is, if the gas attack was indeed a false flag, it’s been rewarded. That lesson will not have gone unnoticed.

    Indeed not. Former UK ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford, on RT:

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  65. gda says:
    @joe webb
    Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 10:24 PM
    Subject: news modification on the Syria strike, per Fox News.

    Last night , or night before last, it was definitely "fixed-wing" aircraft that dropped the sarin on the kids, and since the anti-Assad jihadists like Isis, have no fixed-wing aircraft, ergo, Assad's air force dun it. Case Closed.

    Tonight, on Fox, no-spin doctor O'Reilly, had someone on who claimed there were Russian drones seen (or, it was O'Reilly himself...sorry) that were flying around the zone where the sarin was dropped.

    OK, now my very limited understanding of drones ....notwithstanding, it is possible that Isis bought some drones from Amazon, or stole some from a local store, or got some from Saudi Arabia, Wahabists, etc. You know. These guys get their hands on heavy weapons somehow, in fact, Obongo gave Isis some dough a couple years ago to fight Assad, and so on.

    So, it is possible that Drones dun it. It is also possible that Russia, or Assad, or Isis & Co. of Allah's martyrs, were flying the drones.

    O'Reilly poked fun at the usuals , like Rand ? Paul for expressing Doubt.

    2. Tonight Tucker Carlson did a great job questioning the O'Reilly Factor's Official Facts...He had on a Hawaii Congresswoman who Doubts, and also invoked the war powers law that has Congress as the Decider, as someone remarked a few years ago... He also stuck a couple pins in a dough-boy Republican saluting The Chief.
    Carlson is the best, and lots of fun.


    3. Now let us see, which came first the chicken or the egg? Trump thumps Syria yesterday or so, and today a terrorist in Stockholm mows down a handful of Swedes with a truck. Apparently a muzzie, but not confirmed. (The chicken came first, but the egg had a good time.)

    Are we having a Good Time? How many million Arabs have we killed jointly and severally with the Jews?

    Like the Stockholm Terror today, maybe there is a relationship between US missiles and muzzie truck drivers driving under the influence of hatred of White people for our support of Israel and the millions we have killed for Jehovah in the ME.

    4. Maybe Trump was merely impressing China and N. Korea? Maybe. Maybe Trump's War is calculated to drive more crazed Arabs North. This would aid the anti-muzzie sentiment in Europe, and ditto here in the US. Holistic anti-immigrant Program
    .
    5.Just heard on Hannity, that the drones were either Russian or Syrian....do they look the same or what? Hannity is about wetting his pants in excitement. He is having a good time for sure. jolly little war for the dead kids, like the Iraq Sanctions kids, who the jew Albright philosophized that their deaths were "worth it." I guess these couple dozen kids deaths are going to have been worth it...to get the wars for the Jews started again.

    6. I am either going to singe with a match my Trump cap, and/or get some of those artificial flames from the gadgets store and fasten them to the cap.

    What would Pence be like if T. was impeached?

    Joe Webb

    “Tonight Tucker Carlson did a great job…”

    One man’s perspective. From my point of view Tucker presented an unbalanced view of the situation and allowed the pretty young thing from Hawaii to present her viewpoint with nary a peep or a hard question from him. Puff-ball interview indeed. He just sat there and let her talk on – which he never does.

    As for Lindsay Graham – he’s a thoroughly dislikable character it’s true. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    I like Tucker and watch him daily. But I fear he’s on the wrong track on this one and its pretty obvious how he’s manoeuvring his viewers towards accepting his particular bête noire.

    Shame on him for dishonest “journalism”.

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    well, he left her alone because everybody else is hammering any dissent. What can he say anyway, the same old shit of Hannity? Balance? Please, the one lone voice on TV of Dissent has to be 'balanced'?

    Inform me, what is Tucker's bete noire.? As for maneuvering his viewers...what else is new in the op-ed pages? As a newcomer to TV news and Fox, I do not have a history of watching Tucker, so, again please inform on Tucker's bete noire.

    Here he is asking the question, like he keeps on keeping on about...where's the Evidence?

    A couple weeks ago he got as close to the third rail as I have ever seen on Fox, with regard to the , shall we say, jewish question. He has a job to keep and I hope he keeps it.

    Not only is he probably brilliant, he is funny....That , compared to the other Ernest-without-relief types on Fox....and then there is that Asian gal Malkin or something, who on Dobbs last week also clucked about Trump's promises being , she did not say, betrayed, but.

    Joe Webb
    , @Art
    Unlike Hannity and O’Reilly, Tucker has the good sense to shut up when someone is making a good point on his side of things.

    Peace --- Art
  66. Flavius says:

    Allow me to add that were Trumpkins to have revealed before November 2016 that Jared Kushner and daughter Ivanka would be making up his A Team, and that he expected to be bombing Syria when the first whiff of suspicion presented an opprtunity, he would not be President today. Hell, he would not have been the nominee.

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    Allow me to add that were Trumpkins to have revealed before November 2016 that Jared Kushner and daughter Ivanka would be making up his A Team, and that he expected to be bombing Syria when the first whiff of suspicion presented an opprtunity, he would not be President today. Hell, he would not have been the nominee.
     
    And so say all of us. It is definitely one of the weaknesses of the US political system that there is no "shadow cabinet" as in parliamentary democracies.

    Quite frankly I would not have voted for Trump if I had known that he spends hours a day glued to Fox TV and is influenced by it. Personally I almost never watch TV and I agree that most of the news and current affairs coverage is lies, garbage, and simplistic pablum for the masses designed to deliver an audience to advertisers every few minutes, so I certainly assumed that all of Murdoch's scurrilous organs would be included in the list of fake news organizations and propaganda channels.

    In the future it would be nice if presidential debates included more questions about who the candidates would use as their closest advisors, what media sources they use, if any, what the greatest influences on their political thinking have been, and so on.

  67. KenH says:

    Is President Trump really such an emotional ninny as to attack a foreign country because some images from their civil war upset him?

    Did El Presidente Trump see the images of the kids he killed in his recent Yemen raid? And not just any images but their torn, mangled and bullet riddled bodies? He needs to explain why dying at the hands of American bullets, high explosives and drone strikes is more humane than by deadly toxin presumably delivered by the Syrian government.

    I also find myself wondering if Trump’s detractors were correct and that he doesn’t have the temperament or judgment for the office (not that war hag Hillary did) . Time will tell but the early returns aren’t promising. Looks like we’re stuck with the lesser of two evils again.

    Nimrata the Sikh Haley says we must choose our battles on the world stage, but it just so happens that the Assad regime is Israel’s archenemy and this is a battle they’ve been urging us to fight for a long time. But I’m sure that’s just a big coincidence.

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  68. Ivan K. says:
    @john cronk
    The Saker, who posts here in the Unz Review, Ann Coulter, and John Derbyshire are each worried about some of these issues, and I don't fault them for it. They worry me too. But from observing Trump I have a guess about him. I think he's smart. I think he has a sophisticated way of seeming to give something away to his opponents while actually keeping what's important. This disarms and distracts them, to his advantage. He fakes out both his enemies and his friends, and then we find out later that he knew what he was doing all along.
    As I said before - he's nimble.

    I think he has a sophisticated way of seeming to give something away to his opponents while actually keeping what’s important.

    In terms of governance, yes. In view of mid-term goals, yes.

    Less likely to keep what is important:

    - to the families of the people killed by the US missiles

    - for the long-term good of America http://www.plata.com.mx/mplata/articulos/articles.asp

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  69. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Looks like Israel hacked the election. We need an FBI and Congressional investigation. Lol, the first guy who voices such a thing will be out quicker than Sobran or Buchanan from WFB Jr.’s NR.

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  70. joe webb says:
    @Manfred Arcane
    Since Derbyshire has always been immeasurably cynical on every subject, I'm not surprised that he's buying into “Trump is a vain/shallow/opportunistic/idiotic/incoherent blunderer” story that’s been sold by the media ever since he announced his run for the Presidency. However, as I said on other threads, I don't think this view is compatible with reality, even though it makes for nice juicy Doomsaying posts and comments.

    Derbyshire, and most of the posters here, seem to take it for granted that Trump has no mind or will of his own, and that he’s a sort of Pinocchio being pulled back and forth between Jiminy Cricket (Bannon) and Foulfellow the Fox (Kushner). Trump was talking about his signature trade and immigration issues as far back as the 1980s, long before he ever met Bannon; Bannon also didn’t come on board in his campaign until fairly late in the game. I definitely wish Trump hadn’t stuck his foot into the Syrian mess, but, unless he makes a more definite move (which God forbid), it seems to me that he’s almost certainly made this token strike merely to (1) silence the “Russian puppet” accusation, (2) forestall his enemies in both parties from claiming that his quasi-approval of Assad emboldened Assad’s alleged gas attack, and (3) throw a little scare into China, North Korea, and Iran. I don’t think he did it simply because Kushner suggested it to him, or because Ivanka started crying over pictures of gassed babies; to believe that, I’d have have to believe that he’s the mindless empty vessel that his enemies have painted him as, and he’s come too far for me to ever believe that.

    If Trump’s improbable political career has shown anything, it’s that he’s not just the sum of the people around him. I remember hearing the doomsayers proclaiming that it was all over when Lewandowski was dumped for the slicker and shadier Manafort, or when Kellyanne Conway (with her dubious record on illegal immigration) came on board the campaign, and the doom didn’t come to pass. Also, Bannon hasn’t even been dumped yet; he went with Trump on Air Force One to the meeting with the Chinese, for goodness sake. In the meantime, we have Gorsuch on the Supreme Court (instead of Garland, or–gag–Obama, who might well have been put there by Hillary), we have Sessions as AG cracking down on sanctuary cities instead of Loretta Lynch strapping racism-detecting body-cams to Ferguson policemen, and we have bids being taken on the Great Border Wall. Until I see boots on the ground in Syria, I’ll continue to be far more pleased than disappointed by the outcome of the election.

    More support for the idea that this Syria strike was primarily a gesture and not the prelude to Nation Building, Bush-style: this interview with Dr. Sebastian Gorka, who’s supposedly one of Trump’s major advisers on Middle East/terrorism issues:

    http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/04/07/gorka-syria-not-full-throated-war-deployment-just-surgical-missile-strike/

    Important Quotes from the interview:

    “Nothing has changed in the president’s policy to the use of force in international affairs. He said during the campaign, and he’s been explicit since he came into office, that he is not interested – this is not the second Bush administration. We are not interested in invading countries and occupying them. He understands why that is not a good idea and why fundamentally it’s un-American. We were born in rejection of imperialism, not to reinforce it.”

    “This is not Gulf I, nor is this 2003. This is a cruise missile strike against an air facility involved in a chemical attack on civilians. People need to understand that. This is not a full-throated war deployment. It is a surgical strike using missiles. I’d like people to think about that for a second. I understand the isolationist imperative, but weapons of mass destruction are in a very special category.”

    “I know the president, and I know what he thinks” about the slippery slope into larger actions of the Iraq War variety.

    “All I’m saying is I know the president, and I know his attitude to what happened in the last sixteen years. You can take that to the bank, my friend.”

    I really don’t know where Gorka comes down on the Neoconnery scale, but I do know he’s been repeatedly smeared as a Nazi by the media, so he must have some value in the Trump administration. His critical attitude towards the Bush years, and his claim that Trump feels the same way, is quite heartening. Obviously, I disagree that even the use of the dreaded WMDs justifies foreign involvement, but his emphasizing the chemical attack stuff strengthens, to me, my theory that Trump did this to put on a show of zero tolerance for disapproved weapons for the benefit of other states, and to stop anyone from saying “See, you said you would leave Assad alone,and he celebrated by breaking out the gas bombs immediately.”

    you are possibly correct, but probably not correct. I have observed Trump’s not completely neocon policy toward Israel, and have given him the benefit of the doubt.

    Now I suspect that, more than just catering to an Amen Corner to get elected, that he is a jew/Israel lover, and does not understand or does understand the Jewish Wars of our time and consequently is a Crusader.

    Burn your Trump cap.

    Joe Webb

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  71. dearieme says:

    To stand up to the American Establishment, Trump would need to have three characteristics: intellectual subtlety, a titanium backbone, and mental steel. It would seem that he lacks the wherewithal. Pity.

    It was worth the gamble because Hellary could be guaranteed to be vile, and at least Trump will occasionally be less bad. SCOTUS, I suppose, is a start: be grateful for small mercies.

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  72. Dr. Doom says:

    Oh, you smart boys aren’t up to speed. Let me explain what this is to clear this up for you. You know its not what you know its who you know right? Trump is an insider. He’s a member of the Billionaire Club. He could play by himself, but he’s too invested in the system to rock the boat, even though its sinking. He’s not one of you plebeians. He has been groomed like Bush and Clinton for his role. He’s hardly the top of the Pyramid but he’s taller than Little Jebbie or Bubba and his wife.
    Things aren’t going well for our parasites. Whites are waking up from the slumber of “The American Dream”. They see now they’re being targeted for Genocide and an Angry Giant has awakened. Where does Trump come in? He’s buying time. Tick Tock. The Economy has Already Collapsed. It happened in 2008. They papered it over with bailouts and debt to buy time. With unpayable debts that can no longer even be financed.
    What are they doing now? What they always do when their victims wake up and they’re out of Funny Monopoly Money. Gin up a War.

    See?

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  73. joe webb says:
    @gda
    "Tonight Tucker Carlson did a great job..."

    One man's perspective. From my point of view Tucker presented an unbalanced view of the situation and allowed the pretty young thing from Hawaii to present her viewpoint with nary a peep or a hard question from him. Puff-ball interview indeed. He just sat there and let her talk on - which he never does.

    As for Lindsay Graham - he's a thoroughly dislikable character it's true. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    I like Tucker and watch him daily. But I fear he's on the wrong track on this one and its pretty obvious how he's manoeuvring his viewers towards accepting his particular bête noire.

    Shame on him for dishonest "journalism".

    well, he left her alone because everybody else is hammering any dissent. What can he say anyway, the same old shit of Hannity? Balance? Please, the one lone voice on TV of Dissent has to be ‘balanced’?

    Inform me, what is Tucker’s bete noire.? As for maneuvering his viewers…what else is new in the op-ed pages? As a newcomer to TV news and Fox, I do not have a history of watching Tucker, so, again please inform on Tucker’s bete noire.

    Here he is asking the question, like he keeps on keeping on about…where’s the Evidence?

    A couple weeks ago he got as close to the third rail as I have ever seen on Fox, with regard to the , shall we say, jewish question. He has a job to keep and I hope he keeps it.

    Not only is he probably brilliant, he is funny….That , compared to the other Ernest-without-relief types on Fox….and then there is that Asian gal Malkin or something, who on Dobbs last week also clucked about Trump’s promises being , she did not say, betrayed, but.

    Joe Webb

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  74. @Buzz Mohawk
    FWIW Mr. Derbyshire, this is one reader who agrees with you 100%.

    If Trump continues this way, he will not be re-elected. Too many of us will not be able to hold our noses hard enough to vote next time around.

    Of particular significance are the non-actions you mention, things that he already could have done. We have patience, but when nothing stands in the way of action, and yet nothing happens, it can be called negligence.

    We either see action on immigration now, changes in trade shortly, and America First always, or we will withdraw our support and share our disgust with every American voter within earshot and keystroke. That's not an offer. That's an ultimatum. I wonder if The Artist of the Deal knows what that is?

    I wish americans would stand up fight for themselves. I tried talking to my family about this false flag and they call me a conspiracy theorist. I try talking to friends and coworkers, and no one cares. The indifference that too many americans have is what is ruining this once great country.

    We need a new political party, or a violent coup to remove the ones that have entrenched themselves.

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  75. @Wally
    Sure, just ask the Tibetans.

    …the Tibetans.

    Wally, is there only one synthetic narrative that you are able to see through and you buy into the rest of them?

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  76. utu says:
    @neutral
    Derbyshire is right, a 14 year old girl has been elected, and like the saying goes, people deserve the leaders they get.

    “14 year old girl has been elected”

    No, 14 years old girls have much richer vocabulary and can be infinitely more articulate than Trump.

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  77. This is a very good article.

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    This is a very good article.

    We're all waiting for an article from you on this. Your analysis of future moves would be interesting as well.
  78. @Che Guava
    Good post, Mr. Derbyshire.

    I am not a USA person, but it is also very depressing from afar.

    The circumstances of Flynn's ouster were sinister. He may have been a voice of reason on this lunatic attack.

    That all three of Trump's married children have married into Zionism (perhaps less so for Don Jr., but he's not in the WH) was never a good sign.

    Speaking of which, whose agent can we suppose Kuschner to be? His position is bizarre and unseemly.

    I read last week of senior border patrol people on the ground saying 'i wish I never voted for him' because of the Obama appointee Trump has put in charge of them. That gave me a sinking feeling for you Americans, their support was an important symbol.

    The notorious traitor 'Songbird' McCain had his first good words for Trump after the missile attack.

    Media

    I looked at Breitbart 'News' yesterday. It was always obvious to me and others, but now they may as well scream 'We are really just extreme zio-cons, ha, ha, suckers!' True colours now obvious to any moron.

    The Guardian's coverage was much the same. Extreme left? They love wars and hate Corbyn, for carrying a little old-left inheritance.

    Extreme Blairite, extreme neo-liberal, extreme SJW when it comes to Europe and most English-speakimg countries.

    Gas

    Gas had been used as a weapon in the previous big war; everyone assumed it would play a major role in the new one.
    It didn’t. Germany knew if they used it on Britain, the Brits would use it right back. Deterrence worked.
     
    For gas agents, the Germans were many years ahead of anybody else at the time. The first other comparable nerve agent was developed in early '50s Britain (like their nuclear weapons related research, they foolishly 'shared' it gratis with their American 'allies').

    The Germans did not avoid using these weapons because of deterrence:there was nothing for them to deter.

    In fact, Hitler personally ordered that the large stockpiles of unmatched gas weapons not be used, doubtless from humanitarian reasoning.

    Using them could have made a crucial difference at many points.

    The USA had no qualms about atomic bombing two largely civilian-pypulated cities.

    Had something to add on your last theme, but this is already looong.

    To the mods, i tried to post a slightly different version of this much earlier, but the site was having problems. Interesting timing, given the main topic
    of the two articles.

    The German decision not to use gas was not entirely humanitarian. While the Germans were in fact far ahead of the Allies in the development of nerve agents, their reading of articles in chemical journals led them to conclude incorrectly that the Allies had similar chemical technology.

    The Allies always had chemical agents not too far behind the lines and serious consideration was given to using mustard gas on dug-in Japanese on Iwo Jima.

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    Churchill was powerful advocate of chemical weapons
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/sep/01/winston-churchill-shocking-use-chemical-weapons

    Alleged British use of chemical weapons in Mesopotamia in 1920
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_British_use_of_chemical_weapons_in_Mesopotamia_in_1920

    Winston Churchill's Secret Poison Gas Memo (is it genuine?)
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article999.htm

    "I quite agree that it may be several weeks or even months before I shall ask you to drench Germany with poison gas, and if we do it, let us do it one hundred per cent. In the meanwhile, I want the matter studied in cold blood by sensible people and not by that particular set of psalm-singing uniformed defeatists which one runs across now here now there."
    , @Discard
    We may not have had nerve gas, but we had the means to deliver a lot more mustard gas than the Germans could have done with their nerve gas. And no need for risky precision daylight bombing either. The B-17s and B-24s could have flown at night like the British bombers did.

    And I understand that we definitely planned to use gas in the event of an invasion of Japan. No holds barred whatsoever.
    , @Che Guava
    See my reply 141 (I think). Hitler repeateadly said no to requests to use the weapons, mainly in sitmuations where was no chance of reciprocal use, even of the much less effective and much easier to shield against agents available to any other force.

    It is reasonable to assume that his feelings and thoughts were a result of his direct experience and observations 25 or so years earlier. Many Western historians agree.

    The argument you raise seems a weaselly one to refute the above. Is there any published evidence, based on primary sources? Hitler was certainly not deciding on that basis.

    One could more readily argue that the cynical dupes of Zionism didn't use their own chemical weapons (Churchill sure wanted to, see utu's post 84 for a little on that) because they knew or suspected that the Germans had something new, but they didn't know what it was.
  79. @Powell's Anthrax placeholder
    Doomed indeed.

    To every voter: YOU are responsible for every action your government takes because YOU choose to vote thereby giving scoundrels the opportunity to run your life.

    So what do you suggest, don’t vote? Thats been working great for decades. We need to organize as a people and remove these scumbags from power. The problem with that is, the powers that be will just infiltrate us and destabilize our efforts.

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  80. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anatoly Karlin
    This is a very good article.

    This is a very good article.

    We’re all waiting for an article from you on this. Your analysis of future moves would be interesting as well.

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  81. George says:

    “Tuesday Steve Bannon was removed from his position as a principal on Trump’s National Security Council.”

    The sequence of events was at least:

    Trump never lightened up on the drone bombing which I presume preceded the failed Yakla raid.

    January 29, 2017 Yakla raid, where Trump Yakla raid fiasco does not give Trump pause. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakla_raid

    February 20, 2017 HR McMaster is named 26th National Security Advisor

    Trump’s National Security Advisor challenged over human rights record

    Iraqi detainees in Gen H.R. McMaster’s custody were treated in an inhuman fashion bordering on torture in 2005, according to a U.S. Military Police officer.

    http://www.univision.com/univision-news/united-states/trumpss-national-security-advisor-challenged-over-human-rights-record

    March 2, 2017 Trump goes the full W and wears a bogus military uniform and address sailors on a genuine US aircraft carrier.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/donald-trump-visits-aircraft-carrier-promotes-military-buildup/98624980/

    The time to have gone berserk was the failed Yakla raid or earlier.

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  82. utu says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    The German decision not to use gas was not entirely humanitarian. While the Germans were in fact far ahead of the Allies in the development of nerve agents, their reading of articles in chemical journals led them to conclude incorrectly that the Allies had similar chemical technology.

    The Allies always had chemical agents not too far behind the lines and serious consideration was given to using mustard gas on dug-in Japanese on Iwo Jima.

    Churchill was powerful advocate of chemical weapons

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/sep/01/winston-churchill-shocking-use-chemical-weapons

    Alleged British use of chemical weapons in Mesopotamia in 1920

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_British_use_of_chemical_weapons_in_Mesopotamia_in_1920

    Winston Churchill’s Secret Poison Gas Memo (is it genuine?)

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article999.htm

    “I quite agree that it may be several weeks or even months before I shall ask you to drench Germany with poison gas, and if we do it, let us do it one hundred per cent. In the meanwhile, I want the matter studied in cold blood by sensible people and not by that particular set of psalm-singing uniformed defeatists which one runs across now here now there.”

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    Churchill was a warmongering criminal. The Boers should have killed him when they had the chance.
  83. dearieme says:

    One of the ships carrying US mustard gas was bombed by the Germans in an Italian port. The casualties were rather severe, partly because the US Army didn’t inform the British doctors who came to the rescue that they were dealing with the victims of poisoning by mustard gas.

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  84. Owen says:

    I’m going to repeat what I wrote under Steve’s open thread, but I’ll reiterate that I don’t think it helps anything to start shouting “Trump is no different than Hillary” after only one blunder; if anything seeing his loyal supporters disown him (as opposed to expressing their disappointment and criticizing the decision) is more likely to make Trump want the loving embrace of the Neocons and MSM :

    I’m definitely disappointed by this, and I’ll admit it doesn’t look good. Still, this is just one incident and the first real disappointment of his presidency. Add to that the reports that Russia was notified in advance and you have some evidence that there was a deliberate effort to avoid the WWIII escalation some fear.

    Still, despair accomplishes nothing. I’ll be willing to call Trump a fraud when he orders a full invasion of Syria and calls Putin a threat to civilization. Until then, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    I understand why so many are upset by this; I too voted for Trump as a “peace president.” Nevertheless, its disheartening to see so many willing to write him off as a puppet. Nothing wrong with telling him and the world that you think this was a bad move, but hasn’t Trump earned a little bit of faith?

    Trump is only human, but let’s not forget he played a difficult game and managed to kill the two biggest and best funded political dynasties with no prior political experience. It’s possible there’s a long-game we aren’t seeing; it’s possible Trump made a dumb decision and will reconsider after seeing how his supporters and people like Coulter are reacting; it’s possible he’ll smell a rat when he realizes all the Democrats and Neocons are applauding this. Let’s see what happens next before giving up on him.

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  85. @Nikolai Vladivostok
    Golly, look at that lady. There should be a rule that if the immigration officer at the airport thinks you look like a nutter, you're not allowed into the country.
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  86. joe webb says:

    Fw: NYTimes.com: 63 Hours: From Chemical Attack to Trump’s Strike in Syria ( watch the video below…second image which begins the video. ) today.

    The docs at one of the treatment centers twice used the term “some”, as in some of the victims showed symptoms consistent with the claims of sarin, I guess, or “chemicals” as the JYT’s usage has it to hedge its bets.

    The JYT video contains Russian claims that the area in question is the location of rebel munitions workshops. The JYT says there is no evidence of this.

    So far, Evidence seems scant from both sides. The ‘some” of above is unclear…just victims at hospital, or victims at the actual gas attack site?.

    There are more scenes of some folks, usually apparently medical, wearing gloves, while others are not wearing gloves…again, gloves being very important to protect against skin contact with sarin or any other chemical.

    JYT seems to be wearing gloves on this one to protect itself against possible later charges of yellow journalism. It is worth noting that JYT , as left-zionist as opposed to right-zionism (Likud, etc.) is less than fully on board the Jewish Wars….a corollary of left-zionism which basically takes a go-slow approach, Euphrates to the Nile, but no big rush, don’t blow it.

    Joe Webb

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  87. Art says:

    Clutching at straws, I’m trying to think of some reason, some National Conservative reason, President Trump might have done this.

    Ivanka!

    Donald Trump carried out Syria missile strike ‘after being convinced by daughter Ivanka’

    DONALD Trump’s decision to rain down 59 Tomahawk missiles on a Syrian air base was sparked by his daughter Ivanka’s “heartbroken” response to Assad’s chemical attack, insiders have claimed.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/789399/Donald-Trump-Ivanka-Trump-Syria-Missile-Strike-Assad-US-Russia-Tomahawk

    Suing for Peace – is the only answer – all other approaches will bring more death.

    Peace — Art

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  88. @Hail
    The original boyfriend, murdered, has substantial White blood and looks like Barry Obama in some picture like this one but is definitely Black by U.S. standards. Not sure which of the two accomplices in the murder is the new boyfriend; all three men are Black by U.S. standards and, I presume, Chinese standards.

    https://twitter.com/Hail__To_You/status/850739058829660166

    Goodbye America.

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    Goodbye America.
     
    Some call it :

    CalExit.
  89. DB Cooper says:
    @Wally
    Sure, just ask the Tibetans.

    “Sure, just ask the Tibetans.”

    Please, go to China and ask the Tibetans. In case you don’t know studies done by Western sociologist has found that the Tibetans in China are more Chinese nationalistic than their Han counterparts.

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  90. Sean says:

    https://theweichertreport.com/2016/09/27/donald-trump-the-ooda-loop/

    Everything Mr. Trump has done this campaign has been an example of the least-expected over the most-effective …he pivoted and criticized Arizona Republican Senator John McCain for having been a Prisoner of War during the Vietnam War. During the Republican Primary, Trump decided to run to the Left of Jeb! Bush on the Iraq War issue, insisting on his initial opposition to the conflict and highlighting his belief that George W. Bush was incompetent and a liar.rump has kept his adversaries off-balance by unraveling them with the least-expected campaign strategies.[...]

    He has such a fundamental grasp of Boyd’s OODA Loop that he is now improving it with the increasing speed, severity, and variety of his attacks. A fundamental aspect of the OODA Loop–what’s known as the “Boyd Cycle”–is that once the process has begun, the OODA practitioner (in this case, Trump) must intensify the speed of the cycle. Thus, success is the greatest enemy of an OODA user.

    When one has success using OODA, that individual must not allow that success to go to his head. He cannot slow down the cycle until the enemy has been defeated. The object is to double-down on the success and to continue doing so, at increasing speed, until the opponent is so dazzled that he submits. Although the OODA Loop was not named in World War II, many theorists believe that Patton was an early practitioner of this strategy. So, too, I believe, Donald Trump is a practitioner of this concept. [...]
    Should Mr. Trump manage to defeat the Clinton Machine (and, ostensibly, the media), it will only have been made possible because of his Patton-esque handling of the OODA Loop. If he could destroy such rivals with such relative ease–by simply psyching them out due to his unpredictability–imagine what he will do with foreign leaders. Oh, sure, he says nice things about Putin. But, does he really mean them? How can you be so sure? How can Putin be so sure? He says that he would allow the military to target the families of suspected terrorists but then, in the same breath, says that he is going to listen to his generals (who are universally opposed to such things).

    Trump has taken up the mantle of protectionism (or some variation of it), but has reaped millions of dollars by engaging in the Free Trade practices that so many of his followers abhor. Is he lying? No. Is he keeping his opponents, both foreign and domestic, off-balance? Hell, yes. And he should continue to do so.

    harmed no American interests.

    Its a zero sum game power. Other’s succeeding means the US loses. I’m talking bout Russia of course.

    Bannion was outshining the master, he understands nothing about foreign policy anyway.

    Assad inherited a police state with a large ruthless army with a history of exterminating opposition en mass, and yet he apparently thought the people loved his minority based family dictatorship. He put up the price of commodities and foud he was actually hated by most of the country because he managed to lose control of the county to a ragtag rebellion with no heavy weapons. Assad is an idiot and so are all his advisors, they have proven abilities to make catastrophic decisions and having learned nothing, they are quite capably of gassing their people at this most inopportune juncture–out of mere boredom with merely blasting them to kingdom come as usual.

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  91. mp says:
    @Truth



    Have to modify my comment. Evidently the woman liked the dark side. As for the money? It was inherited.
     
    Wait a minute, Chairman Mao, what happened to the "Chinese Family Love" you were all over 3 posts ago?

    Wait a minute, Chairman Mao, what happened to the “Chinese Family Love” you were all over 3 posts ago?

    Wrote too soon. I never heard of a Chinese girl doing this sort of thing. But I’ll admit when I get it wrong. On the other hand, clearly this woman was not under the influence of Tiger Mom. I once knew a mainland woman living in LA. She told me her son should marry in the following order: a)mainland China girl; b) HK girl; c) white guy; d) Korean. Off limits in this order were a) Taiwanese; b) Japanese; c) black.

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    I once knew a mainland woman living in LA. She told me her son should marry in the following order: a)mainland China girl; b) HK girl; c) white guy
     
    Well she wasn't that conservative.
    , @Discard
    Her third choice for her son was a White GUY?
  92. Sunbeam says:

    Something very strange is going on.

    I’m positive quite a few readers of this site also look at Zero Hedge.

    I philosophically agree with a lot of the posters there, though I pay no attention to the economic stuff they continually post.

    But it is good in a Drudge/National Enquirer kind of way (they put up anything, and a lot of the time is correct).

    Now there is a new item up: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/hacker-group-releases-password-nsas-top-secret-arsenal-protest-trump-betrayal?page=3

    Some kind of new hacker group. It might seem like a joke, but read the message they put out, along with what apparently is the password to unlock access to those electronic spying tools someone put out in encrypted format on the web a while back.

    Besides that obvious issue read the message going on with this release. Besides seeming to push all my buttons (and I’d wager the buttons of most of the posters here) as to what is really important, it also has some … oddly specific details.

    Not getting why this was done in broken English, maybe it is some kind of joke (though apparently their password really does decrypt that file).

    But this was specifically put in:

    “TheShadowBrokers is sure if we “unmasking”, Senator McCain, Magog itself might come out, many defense contractors, Saudi Princes, and possibly little Vietnamese boy he shares with Senator Lindsey Graham, not cool!”

    That seems pretty specific if you ask me.

    Given the other things (Come on the CIA/NSA/Security State people don’t seem like the brightest bulbs, but it strains my belief that all that crap was assembled by anyone but someone on the inside).

    Well my two cents is some invisible, unspecified (unspecifiable) groups within the power structure of this country are having an odd power struggle.

    I’m always happy to wear the tinfoil hat, but doesn’t this seem a tad bit odd to anyone else?

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  93. CAT says:

    Could not agree more with this author. The Trump administration has been subsumed by the libtard-neocon coalition that he campaigned against. Meanwhile, Muslims continue to pour in each day, we’re getting sporadic rather than mass deportation of criminal aliens, DACA is still around, he has done absolutely nothing on H1b while Indians continue to bring in hundreds of thousands of low skilled workers to take over our white collar jobs, he tried to push a lousy update of ObamaCare down our throats by bullying the freedom caucus, the EB-5 visa, #1 get out of jail on the cheap visa for corrupt Chinese continues to get renewed for a low $500k threshold, and corrupt Chinese are buying up real estate all over the east and west coast, pushing prices from LA to SF to Seattle to NYC to Miami to the stratosphere. His son-in-law is now in charge of everything, and he’s about as big a libtard globalist shill as they get. Even the NYT reported that he is in bed deep with corrupt Chinese businessmen to develop his properties. Instead of the Clinton mob family, we now have the Trump mob family running the country.

    Meanwhile Trump was busy trying to play world police, the very thing he promised he would not do. The airstrike against Syria was not only illegal but was based on flimsy evidence, all based on pure emotions. Trump is turning out to be the biggest con in the history of American politics.

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  94. @Wally
    Sure, just ask the Tibetans.

    Funnily enough, an American professor did ask the Tibetans. In a survey conducted in 2000 the renowned Tibetologists Melvyn Goldstein, Cynthia Beall, Ben Jiao and Phuntsog Tsering asked a sample of Tibetans from across the TAR “Do You Have a Better Life Now Than Your Parents Did?  One of the cohorts of that sample (N=150) is the age group between 60-79. In 2000, that means that they were born roughly between 1920-1940. That means their parents lived almost entirely before Chinese policies were instituted after 1959.

    An astounding ~90% answered ‘Yes,’ that is, their lives are indeed better than that of their parents.

    That’s hardly surprising, given that 70% of them had been slaves or serfs under the Dalai Lama, and, now free, they have doubled their population and life expectancy and quadrupled their personal incomes.

    Nor should we forget their country’s horrifying experience at the hands of the British.

    A 2008 exhibition of posters showing Norfolk’s historical connexions with China in Norfolk put it this way: “The machine gunners slaughtered the Tibetan soldiers; thirteen hundred died in the massacre. ‘I got so sick of the slaughter that I ceased fire, though the general’s order was to make as big a bag as possible’, wrote Lieutenant Arthur Hadow, commander of the machine-gun detachment. ’I hope I shall never again have to shoot down men walking away’.”

    The British invading force was led by Colonel Francis Younghusband. The New York Times March 31, 1904 reported: “BRITISH SLAUGHTER ARMY OF TIBETANS; Hundreds Mowed Down By Artillery After Being Surrounded. LHASA GENERAL IS KILLED Tibetans Demanded That Invaders Retire, and Fighting Was Precipitated by Effort to Disarm Them.

    TANU, March 31. — News has been received here of severe fighting, the Tibetans having attacked the British mission under Col Younghusband. There were two engagements, and the Tibetans were repulsed with heavy loss. The British captured the Tibetan camp at Guru. While the British advance had practically been unopposed, the expedition suffered great hardship from the intense cold, and it was sometimes found impossible to use the Maxim guns and rifles, owing to the congealing of the oil. … Among the Tibetans killed were the Lhasa General, the military commandant of Phari and Lata, and the representative of the Golden Monastery, to whose influence and violent hostility the existing difficulties are largely due.” When the reports of the massacre reached England, it proved to be too much for the public to stomach, and Col. Younghusband came under heavy criticism, as this April 2, 1904 report from The New York Times shows: “SLAUGHTER IN TIBET ROUSES ENGLAND; Possibility That Col. Younghusband May Be Recalled.

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  95. Truth says:
    @mp
    Wait a minute, Chairman Mao, what happened to the “Chinese Family Love” you were all over 3 posts ago?

    Wrote too soon. I never heard of a Chinese girl doing this sort of thing. But I'll admit when I get it wrong. On the other hand, clearly this woman was not under the influence of Tiger Mom. I once knew a mainland woman living in LA. She told me her son should marry in the following order: a)mainland China girl; b) HK girl; c) white guy; d) Korean. Off limits in this order were a) Taiwanese; b) Japanese; c) black.

    I once knew a mainland woman living in LA. She told me her son should marry in the following order: a)mainland China girl; b) HK girl; c) white guy

    Well she wasn’t that conservative.

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  96. bluedog says:
    @PennTothal
    "Why are there apparently no restrictions at all on foreigners buying up our real estate?"

    Trump is the last person I would expect to be inclined towards such restrictions. "Foreigners buying up real estate" is pretty much the entire basis for his pre-presidential career as a developer.

    Regarding acting or not acting on immigration in general: Nothing Trump does will survive the leftist courts. Every action, no matter how incremental or sensible, will be struck down by some leftist judge somewhere in some obscure jurisdiction, legal incoherence of the ruling notwithstanding.

    Shoring up the federal courts first, then acting on immigration, makes more sense strategically. If immigration enforcement is Trump's actual goal (which it may or may not be.)

    You have that upside down very soon the Trump supporters like a jilted bride, will turn their backs on him as he fudges tweets and plays the games of musical chairs and try’s to stumble thru 3 more years…

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  97. Basil31 says:
    @berserker
    What we have learnt is that dead baby pictures is all it takes to influence Western policy: Merkel did it and now Trump.

    For some reason, we never seem to get pictures from Yemen. Or for that matter victims of terror attacks in the West.

    There was no need for Assad to do what he did. The White Helmets are dubious. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights - the source used by much of the media - is one man operating out of an apartment in Coventry, UK.

    American policy appears to be strangely aligned with the Sunnis. They pay us good money for our services. Israel benefits as well.

    Next up, the Iranians. Then the real target: Russia.

    http://www.vox.com/2016/3/21/11275354/saudi-arabia-gulf-washington?
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/02/18/the-media-are-misleading-public-syria/8YB75otYirPzUCnlwaVtcK/story.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/12/syrian-opposition-doing-the-talking
    http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/10/01/journey-to-aleppo-part-i-exposing-the-truth-buried-under-nato-propaganda/

    “What we have learnt is that dead baby pictures is all it takes to influence Western policy: Merkel did it and now Trump.”

    I know it’s partly due to decency, but I wonder why we never see pics of our dead, the latest a dismembered little girl on a Stockholm road way from the latest outrage. Pics like that – if they were published – would perhaps not influence Western policy but would influence the Western public.

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  98. @Flavius
    Allow me to add that were Trumpkins to have revealed before November 2016 that Jared Kushner and daughter Ivanka would be making up his A Team, and that he expected to be bombing Syria when the first whiff of suspicion presented an opprtunity, he would not be President today. Hell, he would not have been the nominee.

    Allow me to add that were Trumpkins to have revealed before November 2016 that Jared Kushner and daughter Ivanka would be making up his A Team, and that he expected to be bombing Syria when the first whiff of suspicion presented an opprtunity, he would not be President today. Hell, he would not have been the nominee.

    And so say all of us. It is definitely one of the weaknesses of the US political system that there is no “shadow cabinet” as in parliamentary democracies.

    Quite frankly I would not have voted for Trump if I had known that he spends hours a day glued to Fox TV and is influenced by it. Personally I almost never watch TV and I agree that most of the news and current affairs coverage is lies, garbage, and simplistic pablum for the masses designed to deliver an audience to advertisers every few minutes, so I certainly assumed that all of Murdoch’s scurrilous organs would be included in the list of fake news organizations and propaganda channels.

    In the future it would be nice if presidential debates included more questions about who the candidates would use as their closest advisors, what media sources they use, if any, what the greatest influences on their political thinking have been, and so on.

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    "In the future it would be nice if presidential debates included more questions about who the candidates would use as their closest advisors, what media sources they use, if any, what the greatest influences on their political thinking have been, and so on."

    Oh please, you are forgetting where you are.

    Candidates need to take a proctored IQ test. Then a general knowledge test about geography, history, technology, etc.

    All results reported, so we can consider that.

    Of course in the future, we are going to want full blown labwork to see what DNA they are packing.
  99. Sunbeam says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Allow me to add that were Trumpkins to have revealed before November 2016 that Jared Kushner and daughter Ivanka would be making up his A Team, and that he expected to be bombing Syria when the first whiff of suspicion presented an opprtunity, he would not be President today. Hell, he would not have been the nominee.
     
    And so say all of us. It is definitely one of the weaknesses of the US political system that there is no "shadow cabinet" as in parliamentary democracies.

    Quite frankly I would not have voted for Trump if I had known that he spends hours a day glued to Fox TV and is influenced by it. Personally I almost never watch TV and I agree that most of the news and current affairs coverage is lies, garbage, and simplistic pablum for the masses designed to deliver an audience to advertisers every few minutes, so I certainly assumed that all of Murdoch's scurrilous organs would be included in the list of fake news organizations and propaganda channels.

    In the future it would be nice if presidential debates included more questions about who the candidates would use as their closest advisors, what media sources they use, if any, what the greatest influences on their political thinking have been, and so on.

    “In the future it would be nice if presidential debates included more questions about who the candidates would use as their closest advisors, what media sources they use, if any, what the greatest influences on their political thinking have been, and so on.”

    Oh please, you are forgetting where you are.

    Candidates need to take a proctored IQ test. Then a general knowledge test about geography, history, technology, etc.

    All results reported, so we can consider that.

    Of course in the future, we are going to want full blown labwork to see what DNA they are packing.

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  100. Art says:
    @gda
    "Tonight Tucker Carlson did a great job..."

    One man's perspective. From my point of view Tucker presented an unbalanced view of the situation and allowed the pretty young thing from Hawaii to present her viewpoint with nary a peep or a hard question from him. Puff-ball interview indeed. He just sat there and let her talk on - which he never does.

    As for Lindsay Graham - he's a thoroughly dislikable character it's true. But even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

    I like Tucker and watch him daily. But I fear he's on the wrong track on this one and its pretty obvious how he's manoeuvring his viewers towards accepting his particular bête noire.

    Shame on him for dishonest "journalism".

    Unlike Hannity and O’Reilly, Tucker has the good sense to shut up when someone is making a good point on his side of things.

    Peace — Art

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  101. densa says:

    Speaking of Trump’s feelings, something I haven’t seen discussed is how someone who probably sees themselves as a nice guy deals with mass killings. Bush, for example, was responsible for massive loss of life in Iraq. They still wanted him to attack Iran but he refused. I don’t think he could stomach the thought of adding to the carnage done in his name.

    Then Obama came into office and went straight to work on the drone kill list. This was in addition to his other work in Yemen, Libya, Syria and Ukraine. Like Bush, I think he got cold feet in Syria because he realized he could be starting war and killing on a scale that he couldn’t accept.

    In comes Trump, and right away he is blooded with the mishap in Yemen that kills the special forces member and others. Then, just prior to the alleged chemical weapons being used in Syria, we have an attack in Iraq go badly and kill 240 civilians. Horrendous thing. But it’s the president’s private burden as commander in chief.

    Within days, Assad allegedly uses sarin on children and your own child comes to you saying how terrible it is, do something. Okay, by condemning Assad and attacking him for his “sin,” Trump exorcises his own demons and exonerates himself to his child.

    Trump is already walking around in blood, and if the NWO gets their money’s worth out of him, maybe he will be the one to finally deliver Iran. Of course, by then he’ll be swimming in it. The neocon’s job is to get him boxed in before he quits on them like their previous hires.

    One of the requirements of the president in the post 9-11 era is non-stop killing. (The topic never comes up in the debates. If it had I can just imagine Hillary slaying it, droning on about how she’s been killing for 30 years and never gets tired of it.) Domestic agenda? What domestic agenda. All our presidents are captured within the first week in office. From here on out it’s “foreign policy” first.

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  102. Yes, Trump’s decision on Syria is a disaster, and a betrayal of the platform on which he ran. In case someone is interested, I wrote a very detailed blog post, in which I examine the evidence about the recent chemical attack and compare the situation with what happened after the chemical attack in Ghouta in August 2013. I argue that, in that previous case, the media narrative had rapidly unravelled and that, for that reason, we should be extremely prudent about the recent attack and not jump to conclusions. It’s more than 5,000 words long and I provide a source for every single factual claim I make. I really believe it’s the most through discussion of the allegations against Assad with respect to his alleged use of chemical weapons out there. Please share it if you thought it was interesting. I plan to write more about this soon, in particular about the role Bannon’s removal from the NSC and the Russian nonsense played.

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  103. Bob123 says:

    A picture of a drowned Syrian boy helped win the election for Justin Trudeau.

    ‘”You don’t get to suddenly discover compassion in the middle of an election campaign’

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syria-migrants-canada-drowned-migrants-leaders-respond-1.3213878

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  104. attonn says:

    On a positive side, we only have 3 years and 280 days left of Trump Presidency. There is no way in hell he’ll be re-elected. Liberals will always hate him, and conservatives will stay at home. He’s a goner already. Lame duck three years early.
    Since the moronic Tillerson (who is just an overrated oil man and whose only qualification for the State Sec job was his inside track to Putin – a trait now irrelevant) had said he first wants to defeat ISIS and then turn to ousting Assad, the Russians must have had a lightbulb moment. They’ll simply have to make sure that the USA fights ISIS for at least 3 years and 280 days… And they can definitely make it possible by ensuring that ISIS is well-supplied, well-led and well-informed. In Donbass they move vast quantities of arms across Russia-Ukraine border without being caught. In Syrian desert that should be much easier. Russian are exceptionally non-ideological and pragmatic, and are virtuosos at “asymmetric” warfare. That’s just a no-brainer for them.
    Of course, on top of defeating ISIS and deposing Assad, Trump wants to go to war with North Korea (“patience is over”) and Iran (“Iran is on notice”).
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  105. Broski says:

    “Of course, it’s a shame for little kids to be killed. And poisoning by gas is a nasty way to go. But the world is full of horrors. Why is this particular one any of America’s business?”

    There’s a general principle here that the United States must enforce: using non-conventional weapons (chemical, nuclear, biological etc.) will cause a response of force from the civilized world. Assuming Assad ordered the chemical weapons attack (which he probably did) and that Putin agreed with it as a way to test “international order,” for the test’s own sake, responding with force was an appropriate way to support a generally effective global regime of prosperity, the Pax Americana.

    Obama understood the idea of Pax Americana, and so declared a “red line” against use of chemical weapons in Syria. The Syrians, with Russia’s apparent support, soon tested that threat to see what America was about since its embarrassment in Iraq. The Obama administration did not enforce its red line.

    So now the new president is simply reasserting the post-World War II consensus against non-conventional weapons. Non-conventional weapons are a very bad thing. They kill lots of people gathered together, meaning civilians. The global consensus against non-conventional weapons is a good thing.

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    Assuming Assad ordered the chemical weapons attack (which he probably did)...
     
    How does the joke go again? "Assume" makes an "ass" of "u" and "me."

    But a number of intelligence sources have made contradictory assessments, saying the preponderance of evidence suggests that Al Qaeda-affiliated rebels were at fault, either by orchestrating an intentional release of a chemical agent as a provocation or by possessing containers of poison gas that ruptured during a conventional bombing raid.

    One intelligence source told me that the most likely scenario was a staged event by the rebels intended to force Trump to reverse a policy, announced only days earlier, that the U.S. government would no longer seek “regime change” in Syria and would focus on attacking the common enemy, Islamic terror groups that represent the core of the rebel forces.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/former-cia-officer-intelligence-confirms-russian-account-syria
     
    , @Randal

    There’s a general principle here that the United States must enforce
     
    Only if the US is the self-appointed world policeman. If that's what you want, then frankly you are a fool, and a murderous one at that. The US has no right to appoint itself the world's policeman and in the end it lacks either the power to be such effectively or the honesty to do it consistently.

    Attempting to be the world's policeman can only end in overstretch and collapse. It's just a matter of how long it takes.

    Assuming Assad ordered the chemical weapons attack (which he probably did)
     
    Only a fool could possibly think that it would make any sense for the Syrian government to gratuitously risk giving its jihadist enemies a superpower air force by a meaningless tactical use of chemical weapons. The idea that a state leader gradually grinding out a hard fought win in a desperate 5 year civil war would risk throwing that away just to make some kind of "test" of "international order" is frankly infantile.

    and that Putin agreed with it as a way to test “international order,” for the test’s own sake
     
    Again, the idea that Russia, under pressure on every front, would gratuitously hand the US another huge weapon, merely to perform some kind of "test" of "international order" is literally infantile.

    So now the new president is simply reasserting the post-World War II consensus against non-conventional weapons. Non-conventional weapons are a very bad thing. They kill lots of people gathered together, meaning civilians. The global consensus against non-conventional weapons is a good thing.
     
    Infinitely more people have been slaughtered by conventional weapons than by non-conventional ones, and there's no reason ever to expect that to change. And of course the world's biggest deployer of non-conventional weapons is the hypocritical United States.

    This kind of half-cocked and illegal unilateral aggression doesn't support any kind of consensus, it is the US arrogating to itself the role not just of world policeman but of world judge, jury and executioner. If this attack has any effect whatsoever on the use of chemical weapons, it will be to encourage their use by terrorists as a proven method of getting the world's self-appointed policeman to jerk its knee murderously in response.
    , @attonn
    Seems like you enjoy being lied to. Then you'll just rationalize those lies as the God's truth and move on.
  106. Numinous says:
    @utu
    Churchill was powerful advocate of chemical weapons
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/sep/01/winston-churchill-shocking-use-chemical-weapons

    Alleged British use of chemical weapons in Mesopotamia in 1920
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_British_use_of_chemical_weapons_in_Mesopotamia_in_1920

    Winston Churchill's Secret Poison Gas Memo (is it genuine?)
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article999.htm

    "I quite agree that it may be several weeks or even months before I shall ask you to drench Germany with poison gas, and if we do it, let us do it one hundred per cent. In the meanwhile, I want the matter studied in cold blood by sensible people and not by that particular set of psalm-singing uniformed defeatists which one runs across now here now there."

    Churchill was a warmongering criminal. The Boers should have killed him when they had the chance.

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  107. Trump.

    It just goes to show that a people cannot rely on just one man.

    It’s like Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt, but his people couldn’t just rely on his leadership and vision. After all, even great men fade, fall, or die eventually. So, Moses had to provide his people with the Law, the vessel of principles and meaning. That way, with or without him, the Hebrews had something to guide them and set them straight through the ages.

    Likewise, white people need something more than Trump or Putin. Putin won’t live forever, and Trump has shown himself to be a huckster and opportunist. He’s not to be trusted. Also, Jewish Power is so entrenched in the US that it’s difficult for Trump to outmaneuver the Jews even if he wanted to. In contrast, Russia was such an anything-goes anarcho-gangster state in the 90s that someone like Putin with deep state instincts and connections could pull off a counter-coup against the oligarchs.

    Anyway, white people need a sense of who they are, what they are, where they came from, and how their origins must guide them into the future. Trump was useful in shaking up the system for a year, but he has to deal with the reality of the Deep State and powerful institutions being controlled by Jews and/or globalists.

    One thing for sure, white people need to reject libertarianism that has defined so much of ‘conservative’ thought. Consider soulless and spineless asses like Paul Ryan.
    While individualism and freedom are valuable, libertarianism goes too far in lionizing them above all else. It is the ideology of “I got mine, and I don’t care about others, even or especially for those of my own race/ethnicity.”
    The problem is not one’s conviction in individuality, independence, responsibility, personal success, and criticism of those paying the price for poor decisions. After all, the kind of leftism that mindlessly fawns upon the poor and the ‘powerless’ is pretty useless. It has a knee-jerk tendency to see success as ‘greed’ and failure as ‘nobility’. In fact, many people, especially in a free society, messed up in life due to poor/stupid decisions. And they must realize this and act more sensibly in life. To be free means to be accept the consequences of one’s freedom.

    The important thing is there is a sensible middle-ground between Libertarianism and Socialism. Libertarianism is so radically self-centered that its adherents care only about their own successes. Or, if unsuccessful themselves, they fawn on those with money and power with toady-like slavishness. Theirs is a worldview of arrogance and contempt. According to libertarianism, the winners must be great and wonderful since they used their smarts and freedom to rise high. Libertarianism tends to ignore how ability and success can easily lurch into corruption, abuses, and exploitation. It’s like even naturally talented athletes will cheat by using steroids or dirty tricks.
    Socialism, in contrast, is so sanctimonious in its righteous compassion that it refuses to see the flaws and failings of groups deemed as ‘victims’. So, lower classes are just saints with hearts of gold who, if they act crazy, are just rebelling with justified rage against oppression.
    Blacks, refugees, and immigrants are automatically good for belonging to a ‘marginalized’ group. Such lack of critical mentality in socialism fails to come up with useful advice to the ‘losers’ of the world. By fawning on such peoples, socialism only encourages the ‘victim’ groups to feel sorry for themselves, feel self-righteous in relation to have-mores, and justified no matter how stupid they act.

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    The Left has done itself no favors with this brand of socialism. It always gives useless or even destructive advice to the people it purports to help because of its dogmatic sentimentality about the poor, the minorities, or the ‘wretched of the earth’. So, if blacks riot and burn down a city, the Left just sees blacks as noble and justified. So, if a bunch of Muslims leave their own nations to seek better material lives by illegally barging into the West, they are to be coddled as the ‘huddled masses yearning to breathe free’ instead of as craven opportunists.
    Imagine a parent who never straightens out his children but always makes excuses for them. Imagine a teacher who never accuses his student for bad behavior but only makes excuses as if it’s never the student’s fault. There can be no progress, no improvement, and no rectitude with such attitude. This is why leftism has been such a catastrophe. The problem is not its concern for fellow man(who may be down and out) but the lack of courage to be critical of those in need of help. Even if a people are with privilege or less advantage, they must be judged and corrected when they do wrong. It’s like Moses sometimes had to be tough with his people even if they were a sorry desperate lot.

    But libertarianism has its own problems. While it does have some positive ideas like individuality, freedom, responsibility, and work ethic, it is obsessively about the self at the expense of all other considerations. In regard to humanity, it only sees single individual selves, not a people with the common bond of ethnicity, culture, history, or territory.
    Libertarianism isn’t wrong to espouse the ideal of individual success by individual effort. After all, no one should expect others to do his homework for him. Where libertarianism fails is the total unconcern for anything but the self(or the various individual selves). If the self has it good, a libertarian feels no compunction to care about anyone else. But with such unconcern, a libertarian cannot have a meaningful identity, culture, or sense of history.
    He is just an atomized individual in a globo-cosmopolitan universe. Since he identifies only as an individual and sinks-or-swims as a mere individual, his heart and mind have no connection to anything beyond the self. As such, it cannot have a wider or deeper sense of community across time and space. Libertarianism sees lots of dots but never connect the dots to form a large picture.

    Consider two individuals. One is a Libertarian Jew who is totally radical about his libertarian principles. The other is a Jewish nationalist. Now, suppose both individuals believe in individuality, responsibility, and ambition. Suppose both Jews gain success. In that regard, they have much in common.
    However, the Libertarian Jew is only concerned with the individual, the self. He only cares about his individual freedom and success. And he considers rest of humanity ONLY AS INDIVIDUALS. So, he sees successful individuals, middling individuals, and failure-individuals. He has no other consideration of who-they-are when dealing with humanity.

    In contrast, the other guy, the Jewish nationalist, has a sense of ethnic, historical, and cultural identity. He doesn’t see himself merely an individual but also as a person of a specific racial community. So, even though he also sees a world composed of successful individuals, middling individuals, and failure-individuals, he also sees a world made up of cultures and tribes. And he feels a unity with the people of his tribe/culture, the Jews of the world. So, even though, purely on the basis of economics and individual worth, he is more like rich Hindus, rich Anglos, and rich Chinese, he feels a deep connection with all other Jews, rich-middle-poor. And if possible, he would like to do something that serves the interests of all Jews on the racial, cultural, territorial, or historical level. Meanwhile, the Libertarian Jew feels no such feelings when it comes to other Jews. They are just individuals, and some are successful, and some are not.

    Now, suppose there’s a Jewish community in some part of the world and something horrible is happening to it. The Libertarian Jew’s attitude is, “Why should I care?” Since he only sees himself as an individual among other individuals, why should he care MORE about what happens to some Jewish community than what happens to some other community? After all, bad things are happening all the time in some part of the world. Earthquake could destroy a community in Iran. Hurricane can destroy a community in Florida. Famine could destroy a community in Ethiopia. Flood can ruin a community in Japan.
    So, why should the Libertarian Jew care more about what happens to a Jewish community? After all, his special concern for Jews would be going against his own Libertarian principles.
    It might be deemed ‘racist’, ‘supremacist’, and ‘exclusive’. For him to care more for a tragedy befalling a Jewish community would mean his emotions are playing racial-favorites. It means he’s thinking collectively and nationalistically than as an individual committed only to principles of colorblind freedom, liberty, and success. So, even though, in a broad sense, he might feel a generic sympathy for any group facing hardship or horrors — and donate to humanitarian charities for trouble-spots around the world — , he doesn’t feel an obligation to care more about suffering Jews than any other people. So, he sees suffering Jews only in a generic way. They are suffering like the rest of humanity that is suffering, and that’s that. And there is no need for him to feel especially bad about the plight of his people. So, even though there are some Jews suffering really badly in some part of the world, he feels no special connection with or obligation toward them. As such, he feels just fine going about his daily business and is concentrating on persona/professional interests. So, if HE is rich and happy, all’s fine with the world. His happiness isn’t associated with what happens to a bunch of Jews in some part of the world.

    In contrast, the Jewish Nationalist feels as part of a larger ethno-humanity. No matter how well he may be doing, no matter how well-off he is personally and professionally, and no matter how safe & secure he and his family are, he doesn’t feel happy or feel all’s well with the world IF there are terribly suffering Jews in some part of the world. He sees them as a part of an extended family. So, their suffering is, at least partly, his suffering as well. He feels a connection to others of his kind. His life doesn’t revolve around himself. His life revolved around something bigger and deeper, a sense of being part of a history and culture.

    There’s a scene in SANDS OF IWO JIMA where a soldier goes on break. He’s supposed to return quickly and aid his company, but he prolongs his recess to take it easy. As the result, his fellow soldiers end up getting killed because of his absence. He is overcome with shame and guilt. His extended break proved negligent and led to the death of his compatriots.
    The Jewish Nationalist feels in a similar way in relation to other Jews. He feels that all Jews should care about one another. This doesn’t mean that some Jews should work so that others can freeload off them. Such dependence would be parasitic and opportunistic. No, his ideal is for a kind of interdependence whereby, despite every Jew’s effort to gain success on his own, he would be mindful of what’s happening with the worldwide Jewish community. So, if some Jews are seriously hurting in some part of the world, other Jews should feel obligated to do something, like when American Jews lent a hand to Soviet Jews. Such compassion may be tribal than universal, but universalism is too generic for meaningful emotions. After all, it’s impossible for anyone to care about all the families around the world. Naturally, one cares more for one’s own family. Trying to help or save all the peoples around the world would be impossible. Besides, universalists only force themselves into pretending to care about other groups as for one’s own. 20th century was filled with lots of horrors, but Jews have been fixated on the Holocaust. Why? Would Jews have cared so much if it had been directed only at Polish Catholics and not Jews? It’s only natural that Jews would care more about fellow Jews.

    For a person to care ONLY ABOUT THE SELF AND CLOSE ONES would be petty. For a person to care for ALL OF HUMANITY would be generic, more a case of virtue-signaling than any meaningful or consequential. The middle-ground for meaningful human emotions is ethno-culturalism. A Polish person shouldn’t just care about the self or the individual. But it’d be too daunting for him to care about all of humanity. Univeralism will always be generic and confused.
    The meaningful balance can be found in ethno-culturalism: A Pole who cares about Polish-ness as a people, culture, nation, and history. Let him defend and preserve Polish-ness, and let other peoples of other nationalities defend and preserve their own identities and heritages.
    It’s like different departments in colleges focus on different things. Chemistry department focuses on chemistry, not on the law. The Accounting Department focuses on accounting, not on agriculture or rocket science. It would be absurd to expect every academic department to focus on every discipline & every field of knowledge and welcome any student with any interest. Likewise, every nation has its own specialization in ethnicity, culture, territory, history, and mythology(collective narrative). Specialization allows the university to maintain the various departments. People of each department specialize in a certain field and maintain expertise in it. So, those in psychology maintain knowledge about psychology, and those in film studies maintain knowledge on the art of cinema. We don’t condemn such specialization as ‘academic tribalism’ or ‘academic exclusionism’. For every department to be expert in its specialty, it has to concentrate on certain kinds of knowledge at the expense/exclusion of other kinds of knowledge. So, if a department is about teaching foreign languages, it would be stupid for it include physics and finance as well in the name of ‘academic inclusion’.

    Likewise, each nation has its own special history. And each nation is stamped by a unique story of a dominant ethnic group. And each nation has a rich history, culture, folklore, and tradition. It is up to each people of each nation to safeguard, preserve, defend, and disseminate this specialized body of national-cultural knowledge among all its members. Each person of a nation must be seen as a student & scholar of its ethnicity, history, culture, and territory.
    Just like everyone in a college department must gain expert knowledge of the department’s subject, every person of a nation should try to be an expert on that nation’s history, culture, arts, geography, and etc.
    It is the loss of such mindset under the pressures of globalism that has made so many people into bad students of their own identity, history, and culture. It is no wonder they are flunking in national survival and self-preservation. Poisoned by globalism that says every nation must inclusively accept ALL nationalities across its borders, people are no longer compelled to become knowledgeable patriots of their ethnicity, history, and culture.

    Imagine if the French language department was accused of specializing in French and not welcoming other disciplines. So, suppose the French department declares itself as no longer exclusively about French and allows people from engineering, agriculture, ceramics, photography, law, medicine, and etc into the department. So, what would the French department be about now? It’d be deemed ‘nativist’ or ‘racist’ for the department to be about French above other disciplines. But the people in the department only know French, and they know nothing of other disciplines. And people who specialize in other disciplines feel lost wandering around the French department which is ill-equipped to serve their interests. In time, every disciple that’s been allowed into the French department suffers since no one is allowed to meaningfully concentrate on anything. Only by everyone returning to his own department and only by French department concentrating on French will all departments flourish.

    Likewise, all nations have more to gain by maintaining their own peoples, cultures, histories, and territories. Let the French preserve what is French in France. Let Cameroonians preserve what is Cameroonian in Cameroon, and let Algerians preserve what is Algerian in Algeria. Let different specialize in their own ethnicity, territory, history, and narrative. And once each nation is preserved in such manner, the world can share and exchange each other’s ideas, stories, achievements, and etc… just like various departments in colleges can share its general knowledge with other departments that specialize in their own disciplines.

    We need a robust nationalism that encourages each person to be an expert in his folk, history, and culture of his/her nation. And it should be seen as a lifelong pursuit than something only learned in schools. A person with no such interest or investment should be seen as a flunk. What’s the point of being a member of a nation if one has no interest in it? It’d be like being part of college department without having any knowledge of its subject.

    Anyway, a nationalist doesn’t only care about himself or look upon humanity as a collection of ‘free individuals’ in a borderless world. That would be a libertarian. A nationalist believes that certain peoples, histories, and territories became interwoven to form special ‘cultures’ that need to be preserved, ideally by those with blood ties to the cultures. Surely, a black African feels a deeper connection when he looks upon the artifacts of his culture. While anyone can appreciate African art on the aesthetic level, it is more than mere art to those of the race and culture that created it. Similarly, Chinese culture surely means more to people of Chinese lineage. It’s like Jewish things in Jerusalem means more to a Jew than to a Japanese, for whom the gardens of Kyoto have special meaning.

    Globalism wages war on the specialization of cultures, histories, and peoples. It tries to turn all cultures into Cultures-for-Dummies: bland, generic, superficial, interchangeable. Globalism tries to turn every nation into Nation-for-Dummies.
    In contrast, nationalism believes that each person of should become an expert of one’s identity, history, and culture. Also, if the people of the culture fail in this, they mustn’t expect any other people to do it for them. If Hungarians give up on Hungary, non-Hungarians will not fill the void? If Hungarians decide to abandon their culture, who will preserve it for them? Africans? Mexicans? Japanese? Brazilians? No chance.
    And even if another people did decided to preserve it for Hungarians, it still wouldn’t be the same. It’d be like Chinese preserving the Kenyan nation, or Nigerians speaking Polish and pretending to be Polish Catholics. It’d be just ‘larping’. If Jews gave up on Jewish identity and culture AND if Hawaiians or Gypsies took up the mantle of Jewishness, would it be the same? Of course not. No more than if Vietnamese took over Congo and pretended to be New Congolese.

    For a nationalist, the meaning of freedom and justice cannot derive solely from personal well-being. No matter how free and well-off he may be as an individual, he doesn’t feel truly free and secure as long as others of his kind are suffering or living in bondage. He feels a ‘psychic’ connection with others of his own kind. It’s like a father cannot enjoy his meal no matter how much food he is served if he knows his own children are going hungry. It’s like a son cannot enjoy his meal no matter how much food he is served if he knows his parents are starving. A nationalist sees his people as part of his larger family.

    A libertarian has no special feeling for others of his own kind. He only cares about himself and generic sense of humanity as individuals. So, if people of his ethnicity are suffering, he doesn’t see them as ‘my people’. He just sees them as suffering individuals no different from other suffering individuals in some other part of the world. A true-blue Libertarian Jew would be no more disturbed by Jews being rounded up and killed than by any other people being rounded up and killed. He would be appalled but no more appalled than by violence committed to any other group.

    Of course, few Jews feel that way. Jews, even those who claim to be libertarian, feel a great deal of tribal camaraderie with other Jews around the world. Jews know this feeling is the source of their power, resilience, unity, and will to survive.
    Now, it’d be nice if Jews, in valuing the meaningfulness of such tribalism, respected similar feelings among other peoples. But Jews won’t tolerate such among whites because white gentiles with a sense of tribal compassion may favor their own kind’s interests than prioritize Jewish interests. After all, if white gentiles felt special compassion & loyalty to their own kind, they’d be less to partial to sacrificing their own interests in favor of Jewish ones. In some cases, they might see Jewish interests as threatening to their own and work against them. And this is why Jews will not tolerate tribal-communion compassion among white gentiles. (This is why Jews use three methods to make sure whites serve Jewish interests uber alles. First, Jews try to persuade whites that Jewish/Israeli interests and American/European interests are one and the same. So, what is good for Israel is good for the US, no ifs and buts about it. And Western Values are synonymous with Jewish values. Second, Jews tell whites that nationalism is passe, and therefore, whites must adopt Universal Values. Oddly enough, however, once whites are made to forgo white identity in favor of universalism, Jews steer whites toward to serving Zionism and Jews above humanity as a whole. In other words, it’s a case of ‘heads I win, tails you lose’. When Jews say people must surrender nationalism for universalism, it doesn’t mean apply to Jews who are, if anything, celebrated for clinging to their nationalism. Also, ‘universalism’ is a sham because deracinated and de-nationalized whites are then steered to serve specifically Jewish interests than truly universal ones. To be sure, Jews mask their tribal interests with faux-principles about ‘human rights’, ‘war on terror’, and ‘liberal democracy’, but just about everything Jews push under such labels goes toward serving Jewish or Zionist interests. Third, Jews not only advise whites to adopt universalism but go all out to smear even the faintest whiff of white identity as ‘nazi’ and ‘white supremacism’. Therefore, whites are made an offer they can’t refuse. They must reject nationalism in favor of ‘universalism’ that, however, is configured only to serve Jewish tribal interests and Zionism. The current trouble with Russia and Syria has everything to do with Jewish obsessions and nothing else, at least from the standpoint of the US.) If Jews are killed by Palestinians, Jews care a great deal about Jewish victims. Indeed, they use the media to make even gentiles to care for Jewish victims. But whites are not supposed to feel any kind of racial compassion for their own kind.

    So, there’s hardly been ANY expression of sympathy or alarm about all those whites who’ve been brutally robbed, raped, and/or murdered in South Africa. And Germans are not supposed to care about German victims of migrant rapists. French are not supposed to care about French victims of Muslim violence or African thuggery. And in the US, whites are never allowed to express racial camaraderie with fellow whites attacked by blacks or overrun by non-white immigrants. Ethno-Compassion has been stamped out for whites… but whites are pressured to feel compassion for Jews(every crisis is a new holocaust), blacks(black lives matter), homos, and immigrants, even illegal ones(“we have to keep families together”). But when it comes to white identity and interests? Forget about it. If anything, non-whites are encouraged to insult whiteness(despite their desire to move to and live in white nations), and even many whites have been mentally-colonized to spit on their own identity and history. Whites are only allowed, indeed compelled, to feel racial compassion for other groups, especially Jews, blacks, and homos.

    This must all change.

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    Likewise, each nation has its own special history. And each nation is stamped by a unique story of a dominant ethnic group. And each nation has a rich history, culture, folklore, and tradition. It is up to each people of each nation to safeguard, preserve, defend, and disseminate this specialized body of national-cultural knowledge among all its members.
     
    This is exactly the problem.

    The US is based on Anglo traditions and immigrants have been attracted to this tradition, and have integrated into a society based on European derived law, embodied in the Constitution and providing a level playing field to all citizens.

    Jewish immigrants, arriving in the early 20th century had a completely different religion and tradition, with practices developed over millennia, involving strong social barriers to integration, and choosing to live apart from majority populations for centuries in countries such as Germany, Poland, Russia, Austria-Hungary etc.

    When they emigrated to the US, it was unsurprisingly to operate the same system, with the vital difference that they were now free to leverage their advancement through being allowed to hold high government positions (supposedly to benefit and safeguard all Americans) and exert pro-Jewish racial patronage across the economy with no hindrance(i.e. build a state within a state).

    Anglo nationalism is a major threat to them.

    Jews have a distinct identity in the US (despite in fact having become mixed race European /Semitic they "Obama-ize" - the White European part disappears), probably because of the economic gains in joining the Tribe. And their risk is very similar to the risk run by the commercial Chinese minority in S/E Asia.

    Chinese oligarchs can take Thai names and be Thais with the Thais, be Chinese with the Chinese and exert ratchet effect ethnic patronage to gain control of industries with exploitative monopoly rights in alliance with corrupt ethnic majority politicians - but there's always a background threat to their parasitism.

    It's a full time job to keep the host under control and probably safer, if possible, to knock out ethnic majority power completely as in fact the (1% ethnic minority) Bolshevik Jews did to the Russians in 1917. Absolute power enabled millions of ethnic Russians and Ukrainians to be murdered or sent to the Gulag with whole social classes of potential opponents being eliminated.

    This seems to be the process underway in the US at present, with a search for a suitable National Emergency to enable a pre-prepared COG (Continuity Of Government) totalitarian Corporate/Globalist/Zionist dictatorship.

  108. Discard says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    The German decision not to use gas was not entirely humanitarian. While the Germans were in fact far ahead of the Allies in the development of nerve agents, their reading of articles in chemical journals led them to conclude incorrectly that the Allies had similar chemical technology.

    The Allies always had chemical agents not too far behind the lines and serious consideration was given to using mustard gas on dug-in Japanese on Iwo Jima.

    We may not have had nerve gas, but we had the means to deliver a lot more mustard gas than the Germans could have done with their nerve gas. And no need for risky precision daylight bombing either. The B-17s and B-24s could have flown at night like the British bombers did.

    And I understand that we definitely planned to use gas in the event of an invasion of Japan. No holds barred whatsoever.

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    Not saying you're wrong, but I generally thought gas was delivered by artillery. A few crashes on takeoff of planes carrying chemical weapons (not all that uncommon with WWII aircraft, which were usually overloaded and overboosting their engines to achieve take-off speed) might have dampened the enthusiasm for delivering mustard gas by aerial bombs.

    By the end of World War II, American "precision daylight bombing" often consisted of radar drops with roughly the accuracy of night bombing--not much. Over Japan, LeMay just called the whole precision bombing campaign off, stuffed the B-29s with all the incendiaries they could carry, and sent them over at night at low altitude.

    , @Che Guava
    Definitely:I would say 'very likely' or 'almost certainly'. The chemical agents explicitly mentioned in the invasion plans that became available abt. twenty years ago were defoliants for use against agriculture to cause starvation.

    However, the scale of the US chemical arsenal, rate of the build-up, a statement in support of limited use by Marshall, and Macarthur's later eagerness to use nuclear weapons in Korea all imply a very strong likelihood.

    Still, as far as I know, the only uses of gas had been by Italy in Ethiopia and lapan in China, so one would expect there may have been some resistance among senior US officers.
  109. dfordoom says: • Website
    @berserker
    What we have learnt is that dead baby pictures is all it takes to influence Western policy: Merkel did it and now Trump.

    For some reason, we never seem to get pictures from Yemen. Or for that matter victims of terror attacks in the West.

    There was no need for Assad to do what he did. The White Helmets are dubious. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights - the source used by much of the media - is one man operating out of an apartment in Coventry, UK.

    American policy appears to be strangely aligned with the Sunnis. They pay us good money for our services. Israel benefits as well.

    Next up, the Iranians. Then the real target: Russia.

    http://www.vox.com/2016/3/21/11275354/saudi-arabia-gulf-washington?
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/02/18/the-media-are-misleading-public-syria/8YB75otYirPzUCnlwaVtcK/story.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/12/syrian-opposition-doing-the-talking
    http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/10/01/journey-to-aleppo-part-i-exposing-the-truth-buried-under-nato-propaganda/

    Next up, the Iranians. Then the real target: Russia.

    Yep. That’s the neocon plan and liberals are onboard with it because nasty Vlad won’t go along with the radical homosexual agenda. Trump was the only chance of avoiding getting caught up in this madness.

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  110. Discard says:
    @mp
    Wait a minute, Chairman Mao, what happened to the “Chinese Family Love” you were all over 3 posts ago?

    Wrote too soon. I never heard of a Chinese girl doing this sort of thing. But I'll admit when I get it wrong. On the other hand, clearly this woman was not under the influence of Tiger Mom. I once knew a mainland woman living in LA. She told me her son should marry in the following order: a)mainland China girl; b) HK girl; c) white guy; d) Korean. Off limits in this order were a) Taiwanese; b) Japanese; c) black.

    Her third choice for her son was a White GUY?

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  111. reiner Tor says: • Website
    @jacques sheete

    What happened to that Donald Trump — the one I voted for last November?
     
    Trump is the same smooth con man that he always was. You voted? Maybe you'll use your head, as opposed to your dreams, next time.

    " Mister, I did not vote. Many of my people, they did not vote, either. Why? We all knew it could result but one way, and we should have lost one half day's pay."

    -Filipino laborer, as quoted by Jim Marshall, Freedom's Sting, Brown brothers' burden--Philippine Indepedendence, Collier's Weekly, May 30, 1936, pp. 7-8

    http://www.unz.org/Pub/Colliers-1936may30-00007
     

    I think most Trump voters’ sentiment was along the lines of “he might not keep his promises, but all the others are promising to screw me, at least he promises nice things; at worst he’ll be the same as all the others”. That makes supporting Trump still worth it, in my opinion. He’s obviously no worse (yet) than Hillary. Hillary urged such an attack just hours before he ordered them. Probably she’d have done them, too, and possibly she’d already have attacked Syria before.

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  112. Realist says:
    @Godfree Roberts
    All good but for "China, one of the most corrupt countries in the world".

    China's far less corrupt than The Land of the Free, though that's setting the bar low. Here's why:

    1. Corrupt governments don't prosecute 300,000 corruption cases annually.
    2. Corrupt governments don't lift 800,000,000 people out of poverty in 70 years.
    3. Corrupt governments don't double every worker's wages every 10 years.
    4. Corrupt governments don't allow 80% of people to own their homes outright.
    5. Corrupt governments don't have empty prisons
    6. Corrupt governments don't have safe streets.
    7. Corrupt governments aren't trusted by 80% of their people.
    8. Corrupt governments' policies don't get 93% public approval.

    I could go on, but China's government is not corrupt.

    No country is as corrupt as the US.

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  113. @Discard
    We may not have had nerve gas, but we had the means to deliver a lot more mustard gas than the Germans could have done with their nerve gas. And no need for risky precision daylight bombing either. The B-17s and B-24s could have flown at night like the British bombers did.

    And I understand that we definitely planned to use gas in the event of an invasion of Japan. No holds barred whatsoever.

    Not saying you’re wrong, but I generally thought gas was delivered by artillery. A few crashes on takeoff of planes carrying chemical weapons (not all that uncommon with WWII aircraft, which were usually overloaded and overboosting their engines to achieve take-off speed) might have dampened the enthusiasm for delivering mustard gas by aerial bombs.

    By the end of World War II, American “precision daylight bombing” often consisted of radar drops with roughly the accuracy of night bombing–not much. Over Japan, LeMay just called the whole precision bombing campaign off, stuffed the B-29s with all the incendiaries they could carry, and sent them over at night at low altitude.

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  114. fuzzy says:

    Trump has learned to way the dog. Didn’t take long.

    What kind of credentials do his children have to be given top secret clearances? This is extremely dangerous.

    Trump has now sealed a single term presidency since he has betrayed a big portion of his base. He will not be able to legislate any healthcare, tax or immigration reform. He will not rebuild the infrastructure or a wall (which was always ridiculous). So what is he going to run on next time?

    And I see this morning that the navy is heading to North Korea.

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  115. geokat62 says:
    @Broski
    "Of course, it’s a shame for little kids to be killed. And poisoning by gas is a nasty way to go. But the world is full of horrors. Why is this particular one any of America’s business?"

    There's a general principle here that the United States must enforce: using non-conventional weapons (chemical, nuclear, biological etc.) will cause a response of force from the civilized world. Assuming Assad ordered the chemical weapons attack (which he probably did) and that Putin agreed with it as a way to test "international order," for the test's own sake, responding with force was an appropriate way to support a generally effective global regime of prosperity, the Pax Americana.

    Obama understood the idea of Pax Americana, and so declared a "red line" against use of chemical weapons in Syria. The Syrians, with Russia's apparent support, soon tested that threat to see what America was about since its embarrassment in Iraq. The Obama administration did not enforce its red line.

    So now the new president is simply reasserting the post-World War II consensus against non-conventional weapons. Non-conventional weapons are a very bad thing. They kill lots of people gathered together, meaning civilians. The global consensus against non-conventional weapons is a good thing.

    Assuming Assad ordered the chemical weapons attack (which he probably did)…

    How does the joke go again? “Assume” makes an “ass” of “u” and “me.”

    But a number of intelligence sources have made contradictory assessments, saying the preponderance of evidence suggests that Al Qaeda-affiliated rebels were at fault, either by orchestrating an intentional release of a chemical agent as a provocation or by possessing containers of poison gas that ruptured during a conventional bombing raid.

    One intelligence source told me that the most likely scenario was a staged event by the rebels intended to force Trump to reverse a policy, announced only days earlier, that the U.S. government would no longer seek “regime change” in Syria and would focus on attacking the common enemy, Islamic terror groups that represent the core of the rebel forces.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/former-cia-officer-intelligence-confirms-russian-account-syria

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  116. Randal says:
    @Broski
    "Of course, it’s a shame for little kids to be killed. And poisoning by gas is a nasty way to go. But the world is full of horrors. Why is this particular one any of America’s business?"

    There's a general principle here that the United States must enforce: using non-conventional weapons (chemical, nuclear, biological etc.) will cause a response of force from the civilized world. Assuming Assad ordered the chemical weapons attack (which he probably did) and that Putin agreed with it as a way to test "international order," for the test's own sake, responding with force was an appropriate way to support a generally effective global regime of prosperity, the Pax Americana.

    Obama understood the idea of Pax Americana, and so declared a "red line" against use of chemical weapons in Syria. The Syrians, with Russia's apparent support, soon tested that threat to see what America was about since its embarrassment in Iraq. The Obama administration did not enforce its red line.

    So now the new president is simply reasserting the post-World War II consensus against non-conventional weapons. Non-conventional weapons are a very bad thing. They kill lots of people gathered together, meaning civilians. The global consensus against non-conventional weapons is a good thing.

    There’s a general principle here that the United States must enforce

    Only if the US is the self-appointed world policeman. If that’s what you want, then frankly you are a fool, and a murderous one at that. The US has no right to appoint itself the world’s policeman and in the end it lacks either the power to be such effectively or the honesty to do it consistently.

    Attempting to be the world’s policeman can only end in overstretch and collapse. It’s just a matter of how long it takes.

    Assuming Assad ordered the chemical weapons attack (which he probably did)

    Only a fool could possibly think that it would make any sense for the Syrian government to gratuitously risk giving its jihadist enemies a superpower air force by a meaningless tactical use of chemical weapons. The idea that a state leader gradually grinding out a hard fought win in a desperate 5 year civil war would risk throwing that away just to make some kind of “test” of “international order” is frankly infantile.

    and that Putin agreed with it as a way to test “international order,” for the test’s own sake

    Again, the idea that Russia, under pressure on every front, would gratuitously hand the US another huge weapon, merely to perform some kind of “test” of “international order” is literally infantile.

    So now the new president is simply reasserting the post-World War II consensus against non-conventional weapons. Non-conventional weapons are a very bad thing. They kill lots of people gathered together, meaning civilians. The global consensus against non-conventional weapons is a good thing.

    Infinitely more people have been slaughtered by conventional weapons than by non-conventional ones, and there’s no reason ever to expect that to change. And of course the world’s biggest deployer of non-conventional weapons is the hypocritical United States.

    This kind of half-cocked and illegal unilateral aggression doesn’t support any kind of consensus, it is the US arrogating to itself the role not just of world policeman but of world judge, jury and executioner. If this attack has any effect whatsoever on the use of chemical weapons, it will be to encourage their use by terrorists as a proven method of getting the world’s self-appointed policeman to jerk its knee murderously in response.

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  117. Miro23 says:
    @Priss Factor
    Trump.

    It just goes to show that a people cannot rely on just one man.

    It's like Moses led the Hebrews out of Egypt, but his people couldn't just rely on his leadership and vision. After all, even great men fade, fall, or die eventually. So, Moses had to provide his people with the Law, the vessel of principles and meaning. That way, with or without him, the Hebrews had something to guide them and set them straight through the ages.

    Likewise, white people need something more than Trump or Putin. Putin won't live forever, and Trump has shown himself to be a huckster and opportunist. He's not to be trusted. Also, Jewish Power is so entrenched in the US that it's difficult for Trump to outmaneuver the Jews even if he wanted to. In contrast, Russia was such an anything-goes anarcho-gangster state in the 90s that someone like Putin with deep state instincts and connections could pull off a counter-coup against the oligarchs.

    Anyway, white people need a sense of who they are, what they are, where they came from, and how their origins must guide them into the future. Trump was useful in shaking up the system for a year, but he has to deal with the reality of the Deep State and powerful institutions being controlled by Jews and/or globalists.

    One thing for sure, white people need to reject libertarianism that has defined so much of 'conservative' thought. Consider soulless and spineless asses like Paul Ryan.
    While individualism and freedom are valuable, libertarianism goes too far in lionizing them above all else. It is the ideology of "I got mine, and I don't care about others, even or especially for those of my own race/ethnicity."
    The problem is not one's conviction in individuality, independence, responsibility, personal success, and criticism of those paying the price for poor decisions. After all, the kind of leftism that mindlessly fawns upon the poor and the 'powerless' is pretty useless. It has a knee-jerk tendency to see success as 'greed' and failure as 'nobility'. In fact, many people, especially in a free society, messed up in life due to poor/stupid decisions. And they must realize this and act more sensibly in life. To be free means to be accept the consequences of one's freedom.

    The important thing is there is a sensible middle-ground between Libertarianism and Socialism. Libertarianism is so radically self-centered that its adherents care only about their own successes. Or, if unsuccessful themselves, they fawn on those with money and power with toady-like slavishness. Theirs is a worldview of arrogance and contempt. According to libertarianism, the winners must be great and wonderful since they used their smarts and freedom to rise high. Libertarianism tends to ignore how ability and success can easily lurch into corruption, abuses, and exploitation. It's like even naturally talented athletes will cheat by using steroids or dirty tricks.
    Socialism, in contrast, is so sanctimonious in its righteous compassion that it refuses to see the flaws and failings of groups deemed as 'victims'. So, lower classes are just saints with hearts of gold who, if they act crazy, are just rebelling with justified rage against oppression.
    Blacks, refugees, and immigrants are automatically good for belonging to a 'marginalized' group. Such lack of critical mentality in socialism fails to come up with useful advice to the 'losers' of the world. By fawning on such peoples, socialism only encourages the 'victim' groups to feel sorry for themselves, feel self-righteous in relation to have-mores, and justified no matter how stupid they act.

    The Left has done itself no favors with this brand of socialism. It always gives useless or even destructive advice to the people it purports to help because of its dogmatic sentimentality about the poor, the minorities, or the 'wretched of the earth'. So, if blacks riot and burn down a city, the Left just sees blacks as noble and justified. So, if a bunch of Muslims leave their own nations to seek better material lives by illegally barging into the West, they are to be coddled as the 'huddled masses yearning to breathe free' instead of as craven opportunists.
    Imagine a parent who never straightens out his children but always makes excuses for them. Imagine a teacher who never accuses his student for bad behavior but only makes excuses as if it's never the student's fault. There can be no progress, no improvement, and no rectitude with such attitude. This is why leftism has been such a catastrophe. The problem is not its concern for fellow man(who may be down and out) but the lack of courage to be critical of those in need of help. Even if a people are with privilege or less advantage, they must be judged and corrected when they do wrong. It's like Moses sometimes had to be tough with his people even if they were a sorry desperate lot.

    But libertarianism has its own problems. While it does have some positive ideas like individuality, freedom, responsibility, and work ethic, it is obsessively about the self at the expense of all other considerations. In regard to humanity, it only sees single individual selves, not a people with the common bond of ethnicity, culture, history, or territory.
    Libertarianism isn't wrong to espouse the ideal of individual success by individual effort. After all, no one should expect others to do his homework for him. Where libertarianism fails is the total unconcern for anything but the self(or the various individual selves). If the self has it good, a libertarian feels no compunction to care about anyone else. But with such unconcern, a libertarian cannot have a meaningful identity, culture, or sense of history.
    He is just an atomized individual in a globo-cosmopolitan universe. Since he identifies only as an individual and sinks-or-swims as a mere individual, his heart and mind have no connection to anything beyond the self. As such, it cannot have a wider or deeper sense of community across time and space. Libertarianism sees lots of dots but never connect the dots to form a large picture.

    Consider two individuals. One is a Libertarian Jew who is totally radical about his libertarian principles. The other is a Jewish nationalist. Now, suppose both individuals believe in individuality, responsibility, and ambition. Suppose both Jews gain success. In that regard, they have much in common.
    However, the Libertarian Jew is only concerned with the individual, the self. He only cares about his individual freedom and success. And he considers rest of humanity ONLY AS INDIVIDUALS. So, he sees successful individuals, middling individuals, and failure-individuals. He has no other consideration of who-they-are when dealing with humanity.

    In contrast, the other guy, the Jewish nationalist, has a sense of ethnic, historical, and cultural identity. He doesn't see himself merely an individual but also as a person of a specific racial community. So, even though he also sees a world composed of successful individuals, middling individuals, and failure-individuals, he also sees a world made up of cultures and tribes. And he feels a unity with the people of his tribe/culture, the Jews of the world. So, even though, purely on the basis of economics and individual worth, he is more like rich Hindus, rich Anglos, and rich Chinese, he feels a deep connection with all other Jews, rich-middle-poor. And if possible, he would like to do something that serves the interests of all Jews on the racial, cultural, territorial, or historical level. Meanwhile, the Libertarian Jew feels no such feelings when it comes to other Jews. They are just individuals, and some are successful, and some are not.

    Now, suppose there's a Jewish community in some part of the world and something horrible is happening to it. The Libertarian Jew's attitude is, "Why should I care?" Since he only sees himself as an individual among other individuals, why should he care MORE about what happens to some Jewish community than what happens to some other community? After all, bad things are happening all the time in some part of the world. Earthquake could destroy a community in Iran. Hurricane can destroy a community in Florida. Famine could destroy a community in Ethiopia. Flood can ruin a community in Japan.
    So, why should the Libertarian Jew care more about what happens to a Jewish community? After all, his special concern for Jews would be going against his own Libertarian principles.
    It might be deemed 'racist', 'supremacist', and 'exclusive'. For him to care more for a tragedy befalling a Jewish community would mean his emotions are playing racial-favorites. It means he's thinking collectively and nationalistically than as an individual committed only to principles of colorblind freedom, liberty, and success. So, even though, in a broad sense, he might feel a generic sympathy for any group facing hardship or horrors --- and donate to humanitarian charities for trouble-spots around the world --- , he doesn't feel an obligation to care more about suffering Jews than any other people. So, he sees suffering Jews only in a generic way. They are suffering like the rest of humanity that is suffering, and that's that. And there is no need for him to feel especially bad about the plight of his people. So, even though there are some Jews suffering really badly in some part of the world, he feels no special connection with or obligation toward them. As such, he feels just fine going about his daily business and is concentrating on persona/professional interests. So, if HE is rich and happy, all's fine with the world. His happiness isn't associated with what happens to a bunch of Jews in some part of the world.

    In contrast, the Jewish Nationalist feels as part of a larger ethno-humanity. No matter how well he may be doing, no matter how well-off he is personally and professionally, and no matter how safe & secure he and his family are, he doesn't feel happy or feel all's well with the world IF there are terribly suffering Jews in some part of the world. He sees them as a part of an extended family. So, their suffering is, at least partly, his suffering as well. He feels a connection to others of his kind. His life doesn't revolve around himself. His life revolved around something bigger and deeper, a sense of being part of a history and culture.

    There's a scene in SANDS OF IWO JIMA where a soldier goes on break. He's supposed to return quickly and aid his company, but he prolongs his recess to take it easy. As the result, his fellow soldiers end up getting killed because of his absence. He is overcome with shame and guilt. His extended break proved negligent and led to the death of his compatriots.
    The Jewish Nationalist feels in a similar way in relation to other Jews. He feels that all Jews should care about one another. This doesn't mean that some Jews should work so that others can freeload off them. Such dependence would be parasitic and opportunistic. No, his ideal is for a kind of interdependence whereby, despite every Jew's effort to gain success on his own, he would be mindful of what's happening with the worldwide Jewish community. So, if some Jews are seriously hurting in some part of the world, other Jews should feel obligated to do something, like when American Jews lent a hand to Soviet Jews. Such compassion may be tribal than universal, but universalism is too generic for meaningful emotions. After all, it's impossible for anyone to care about all the families around the world. Naturally, one cares more for one's own family. Trying to help or save all the peoples around the world would be impossible. Besides, universalists only force themselves into pretending to care about other groups as for one's own. 20th century was filled with lots of horrors, but Jews have been fixated on the Holocaust. Why? Would Jews have cared so much if it had been directed only at Polish Catholics and not Jews? It's only natural that Jews would care more about fellow Jews.

    For a person to care ONLY ABOUT THE SELF AND CLOSE ONES would be petty. For a person to care for ALL OF HUMANITY would be generic, more a case of virtue-signaling than any meaningful or consequential. The middle-ground for meaningful human emotions is ethno-culturalism. A Polish person shouldn't just care about the self or the individual. But it'd be too daunting for him to care about all of humanity. Univeralism will always be generic and confused.
    The meaningful balance can be found in ethno-culturalism: A Pole who cares about Polish-ness as a people, culture, nation, and history. Let him defend and preserve Polish-ness, and let other peoples of other nationalities defend and preserve their own identities and heritages.
    It's like different departments in colleges focus on different things. Chemistry department focuses on chemistry, not on the law. The Accounting Department focuses on accounting, not on agriculture or rocket science. It would be absurd to expect every academic department to focus on every discipline & every field of knowledge and welcome any student with any interest. Likewise, every nation has its own specialization in ethnicity, culture, territory, history, and mythology(collective narrative). Specialization allows the university to maintain the various departments. People of each department specialize in a certain field and maintain expertise in it. So, those in psychology maintain knowledge about psychology, and those in film studies maintain knowledge on the art of cinema. We don't condemn such specialization as 'academic tribalism' or 'academic exclusionism'. For every department to be expert in its specialty, it has to concentrate on certain kinds of knowledge at the expense/exclusion of other kinds of knowledge. So, if a department is about teaching foreign languages, it would be stupid for it include physics and finance as well in the name of 'academic inclusion'.

    Likewise, each nation has its own special history. And each nation is stamped by a unique story of a dominant ethnic group. And each nation has a rich history, culture, folklore, and tradition. It is up to each people of each nation to safeguard, preserve, defend, and disseminate this specialized body of national-cultural knowledge among all its members. Each person of a nation must be seen as a student & scholar of its ethnicity, history, culture, and territory.
    Just like everyone in a college department must gain expert knowledge of the department's subject, every person of a nation should try to be an expert on that nation's history, culture, arts, geography, and etc.
    It is the loss of such mindset under the pressures of globalism that has made so many people into bad students of their own identity, history, and culture. It is no wonder they are flunking in national survival and self-preservation. Poisoned by globalism that says every nation must inclusively accept ALL nationalities across its borders, people are no longer compelled to become knowledgeable patriots of their ethnicity, history, and culture.

    Imagine if the French language department was accused of specializing in French and not welcoming other disciplines. So, suppose the French department declares itself as no longer exclusively about French and allows people from engineering, agriculture, ceramics, photography, law, medicine, and etc into the department. So, what would the French department be about now? It'd be deemed 'nativist' or 'racist' for the department to be about French above other disciplines. But the people in the department only know French, and they know nothing of other disciplines. And people who specialize in other disciplines feel lost wandering around the French department which is ill-equipped to serve their interests. In time, every disciple that's been allowed into the French department suffers since no one is allowed to meaningfully concentrate on anything. Only by everyone returning to his own department and only by French department concentrating on French will all departments flourish.

    Likewise, all nations have more to gain by maintaining their own peoples, cultures, histories, and territories. Let the French preserve what is French in France. Let Cameroonians preserve what is Cameroonian in Cameroon, and let Algerians preserve what is Algerian in Algeria. Let different specialize in their own ethnicity, territory, history, and narrative. And once each nation is preserved in such manner, the world can share and exchange each other's ideas, stories, achievements, and etc... just like various departments in colleges can share its general knowledge with other departments that specialize in their own disciplines.

    We need a robust nationalism that encourages each person to be an expert in his folk, history, and culture of his/her nation. And it should be seen as a lifelong pursuit than something only learned in schools. A person with no such interest or investment should be seen as a flunk. What's the point of being a member of a nation if one has no interest in it? It'd be like being part of college department without having any knowledge of its subject.

    Anyway, a nationalist doesn't only care about himself or look upon humanity as a collection of 'free individuals' in a borderless world. That would be a libertarian. A nationalist believes that certain peoples, histories, and territories became interwoven to form special 'cultures' that need to be preserved, ideally by those with blood ties to the cultures. Surely, a black African feels a deeper connection when he looks upon the artifacts of his culture. While anyone can appreciate African art on the aesthetic level, it is more than mere art to those of the race and culture that created it. Similarly, Chinese culture surely means more to people of Chinese lineage. It's like Jewish things in Jerusalem means more to a Jew than to a Japanese, for whom the gardens of Kyoto have special meaning.

    Globalism wages war on the specialization of cultures, histories, and peoples. It tries to turn all cultures into Cultures-for-Dummies: bland, generic, superficial, interchangeable. Globalism tries to turn every nation into Nation-for-Dummies.
    In contrast, nationalism believes that each person of should become an expert of one's identity, history, and culture. Also, if the people of the culture fail in this, they mustn't expect any other people to do it for them. If Hungarians give up on Hungary, non-Hungarians will not fill the void? If Hungarians decide to abandon their culture, who will preserve it for them? Africans? Mexicans? Japanese? Brazilians? No chance.
    And even if another people did decided to preserve it for Hungarians, it still wouldn't be the same. It'd be like Chinese preserving the Kenyan nation, or Nigerians speaking Polish and pretending to be Polish Catholics. It'd be just 'larping'. If Jews gave up on Jewish identity and culture AND if Hawaiians or Gypsies took up the mantle of Jewishness, would it be the same? Of course not. No more than if Vietnamese took over Congo and pretended to be New Congolese.

    For a nationalist, the meaning of freedom and justice cannot derive solely from personal well-being. No matter how free and well-off he may be as an individual, he doesn't feel truly free and secure as long as others of his kind are suffering or living in bondage. He feels a 'psychic' connection with others of his own kind. It's like a father cannot enjoy his meal no matter how much food he is served if he knows his own children are going hungry. It's like a son cannot enjoy his meal no matter how much food he is served if he knows his parents are starving. A nationalist sees his people as part of his larger family.

    A libertarian has no special feeling for others of his own kind. He only cares about himself and generic sense of humanity as individuals. So, if people of his ethnicity are suffering, he doesn't see them as 'my people'. He just sees them as suffering individuals no different from other suffering individuals in some other part of the world. A true-blue Libertarian Jew would be no more disturbed by Jews being rounded up and killed than by any other people being rounded up and killed. He would be appalled but no more appalled than by violence committed to any other group.

    Of course, few Jews feel that way. Jews, even those who claim to be libertarian, feel a great deal of tribal camaraderie with other Jews around the world. Jews know this feeling is the source of their power, resilience, unity, and will to survive.
    Now, it'd be nice if Jews, in valuing the meaningfulness of such tribalism, respected similar feelings among other peoples. But Jews won't tolerate such among whites because white gentiles with a sense of tribal compassion may favor their own kind's interests than prioritize Jewish interests. After all, if white gentiles felt special compassion & loyalty to their own kind, they'd be less to partial to sacrificing their own interests in favor of Jewish ones. In some cases, they might see Jewish interests as threatening to their own and work against them. And this is why Jews will not tolerate tribal-communion compassion among white gentiles. (This is why Jews use three methods to make sure whites serve Jewish interests uber alles. First, Jews try to persuade whites that Jewish/Israeli interests and American/European interests are one and the same. So, what is good for Israel is good for the US, no ifs and buts about it. And Western Values are synonymous with Jewish values. Second, Jews tell whites that nationalism is passe, and therefore, whites must adopt Universal Values. Oddly enough, however, once whites are made to forgo white identity in favor of universalism, Jews steer whites toward to serving Zionism and Jews above humanity as a whole. In other words, it's a case of 'heads I win, tails you lose'. When Jews say people must surrender nationalism for universalism, it doesn't mean apply to Jews who are, if anything, celebrated for clinging to their nationalism. Also, 'universalism' is a sham because deracinated and de-nationalized whites are then steered to serve specifically Jewish interests than truly universal ones. To be sure, Jews mask their tribal interests with faux-principles about 'human rights', 'war on terror', and 'liberal democracy', but just about everything Jews push under such labels goes toward serving Jewish or Zionist interests. Third, Jews not only advise whites to adopt universalism but go all out to smear even the faintest whiff of white identity as 'nazi' and 'white supremacism'. Therefore, whites are made an offer they can't refuse. They must reject nationalism in favor of 'universalism' that, however, is configured only to serve Jewish tribal interests and Zionism. The current trouble with Russia and Syria has everything to do with Jewish obsessions and nothing else, at least from the standpoint of the US.) If Jews are killed by Palestinians, Jews care a great deal about Jewish victims. Indeed, they use the media to make even gentiles to care for Jewish victims. But whites are not supposed to feel any kind of racial compassion for their own kind.

    So, there's hardly been ANY expression of sympathy or alarm about all those whites who've been brutally robbed, raped, and/or murdered in South Africa. And Germans are not supposed to care about German victims of migrant rapists. French are not supposed to care about French victims of Muslim violence or African thuggery. And in the US, whites are never allowed to express racial camaraderie with fellow whites attacked by blacks or overrun by non-white immigrants. Ethno-Compassion has been stamped out for whites... but whites are pressured to feel compassion for Jews(every crisis is a new holocaust), blacks(black lives matter), homos, and immigrants, even illegal ones("we have to keep families together"). But when it comes to white identity and interests? Forget about it. If anything, non-whites are encouraged to insult whiteness(despite their desire to move to and live in white nations), and even many whites have been mentally-colonized to spit on their own identity and history. Whites are only allowed, indeed compelled, to feel racial compassion for other groups, especially Jews, blacks, and homos.

    This must all change.

    Likewise, each nation has its own special history. And each nation is stamped by a unique story of a dominant ethnic group. And each nation has a rich history, culture, folklore, and tradition. It is up to each people of each nation to safeguard, preserve, defend, and disseminate this specialized body of national-cultural knowledge among all its members.

    This is exactly the problem.

    The US is based on Anglo traditions and immigrants have been attracted to this tradition, and have integrated into a society based on European derived law, embodied in the Constitution and providing a level playing field to all citizens.

    Jewish immigrants, arriving in the early 20th century had a completely different religion and tradition, with practices developed over millennia, involving strong social barriers to integration, and choosing to live apart from majority populations for centuries in countries such as Germany, Poland, Russia, Austria-Hungary etc.

    When they emigrated to the US, it was unsurprisingly to operate the same system, with the vital difference that they were now free to leverage their advancement through being allowed to hold high government positions (supposedly to benefit and safeguard all Americans) and exert pro-Jewish racial patronage across the economy with no hindrance(i.e. build a state within a state).

    Anglo nationalism is a major threat to them.

    Jews have a distinct identity in the US (despite in fact having become mixed race European /Semitic they “Obama-ize” – the White European part disappears), probably because of the economic gains in joining the Tribe. And their risk is very similar to the risk run by the commercial Chinese minority in S/E Asia.

    Chinese oligarchs can take Thai names and be Thais with the Thais, be Chinese with the Chinese and exert ratchet effect ethnic patronage to gain control of industries with exploitative monopoly rights in alliance with corrupt ethnic majority politicians – but there’s always a background threat to their parasitism.

    It’s a full time job to keep the host under control and probably safer, if possible, to knock out ethnic majority power completely as in fact the (1% ethnic minority) Bolshevik Jews did to the Russians in 1917. Absolute power enabled millions of ethnic Russians and Ukrainians to be murdered or sent to the Gulag with whole social classes of potential opponents being eliminated.

    This seems to be the process underway in the US at present, with a search for a suitable National Emergency to enable a pre-prepared COG (Continuity Of Government) totalitarian Corporate/Globalist/Zionist dictatorship.

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    The US is based on Anglo traditions and immigrants have been attracted to this tradition, and have integrated into a society based on European derived law, embodied in the Constitution and providing a level playing field to all citizens.
     
    This is technically true, but the magic sauce that enabled the U.S. to take off and stay airborne for over 200 years is the peculiar spirit and philosophy of empirical skepticism and restraint that undergirds the English Common Law.

    French traditions would have led - as they did in France itself - to rule by a ravening sect of Jacobins quickly spiraling into accelerating fratricidal guillotining of "deviationists."

    The French-style constitution - had one actually been created by an American Robespierre amidst the murder and mayhem - would have provided for the greatest possible centralization of government power, perhaps in the hands of a self-appointed three-man directorate (i.e. a classical triumvirate).

    Instead of the brilliant principle of gridlock-by-design, the French-style constitution would have glittered with all the wonderful "new ideas" that are still fashionable among the 45%-educated in 2017, such as a "rational" 10-day week, a South American-style laundry list of positive "rights" such as rights to abode, work, sex etc.

    Lastly, the French-style constitution would have included a jihad directive commanding the citoyens to go out and spread their new "humanity" to the rest of the world no matter the cost in blood and treasure.

  118. attonn says:
    @Broski
    "Of course, it’s a shame for little kids to be killed. And poisoning by gas is a nasty way to go. But the world is full of horrors. Why is this particular one any of America’s business?"

    There's a general principle here that the United States must enforce: using non-conventional weapons (chemical, nuclear, biological etc.) will cause a response of force from the civilized world. Assuming Assad ordered the chemical weapons attack (which he probably did) and that Putin agreed with it as a way to test "international order," for the test's own sake, responding with force was an appropriate way to support a generally effective global regime of prosperity, the Pax Americana.

    Obama understood the idea of Pax Americana, and so declared a "red line" against use of chemical weapons in Syria. The Syrians, with Russia's apparent support, soon tested that threat to see what America was about since its embarrassment in Iraq. The Obama administration did not enforce its red line.

    So now the new president is simply reasserting the post-World War II consensus against non-conventional weapons. Non-conventional weapons are a very bad thing. They kill lots of people gathered together, meaning civilians. The global consensus against non-conventional weapons is a good thing.

    Seems like you enjoy being lied to. Then you’ll just rationalize those lies as the God’s truth and move on.

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  119. There is a story, possibly an apocryphal one, involving Beethoven’s 3rd Symphony Eroica, which the composer had written in honor of Napoleon Bonaparte. Upon learning that Napoleon had proclaimed himself Emperor, Beethoven is said to have flown into a rage and either torn out the title page or scratched out the dedication. Here is how Wikipedia records it.

    In writing this symphony, Beethoven had been thinking of Buonaparte, but Buonaparte while he was First Consul. At that time Beethoven had the highest esteem for him, and compared him to the greatest consuls of Ancient Rome. Not only I, but many of Beethoven’s closer friends, saw this symphony on his table, beautifully copied in manuscript, with the word “Buonaparte” inscribed at the very top of the title-page and “Ludwig van Beethoven” at the very bottom …

    I was the first to tell him the news that Buonaparte had declared himself Emperor, whereupon he broke into a rage and exclaimed, “So he is no more than a common mortal! Now, too, he will tread under foot all the rights of Man, indulge only his ambition; now he will think himself superior to all men, become a tyrant!” Beethoven went to the table, seized the top of the title-page, tore it in half and threw it on the floor. The page had to be recopied, and it was only now that the symphony received the title Sinfonia eroica.

    I rather doubt the veracity of this romanticized version of the story, and of course today the roles are reversed, with Alt-Righters being aligned rather with the Ancien Regime than the French Revolution, but this is exactly how all of Trump’s true-blue nationalist supporters feel after the Syrian missile strike.

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    what is dumb dasein? Just reread a book on Heidegger by George Steiner, before I threw it out.

    Heidegger is to be located in the End of Philosophy, amidst Marxist, Gramscian, Existentialist, Structuralist, post this and that, Modernism, etc., Deconstruction and what have I overlooked?...O the Race Equality ideology which fed off the above tainted Thinking...as in God Laughs at White guys and jews Thinking...fighting over Bizarre and Rotting Ideas from the Enlightenment, the Benightenment. We are all Eee-Quallll...No Value Judgments...pig logic all splashing into the trough Equally.

    The End of Philosophy means the Beginning of Race Realism, Biology, Genetics, Evolutionary Psychology, biology, and so on.

    There is a kind of poetic sense of relevance, which is probably the only thing that kept the Heidegger follies going so long.

    I just listened to a Finnish composer whose piece I am going to look up and buy. Full of bird song, from the north of Finland, I imagine migrating flocks of Canadian Geese, etc. Reminds me of walking over a ridge in Yellowstone...and running into a flock of geese flapping only about 20 feet above me. This was a great and wondrous moment. Unforgettable. No honking , just wing sounds.

    Heidegger was sick of the sounds of Philosophy, and tried to listen to something Other. What he got close to was Genes...the actual Being that our particular beings need to tune into.

    Bourgeois Ideology, Liberal Economism, LIberal Race Equalityism, Cosmopolitanism's din, Jewyorktimes, and crackpot Religion...jew, muzzie, and sometimes Christian as well.

    My local mountain community, just advertised an "Egg Hunt" coming up. Easter is Omitted. The same jews/liberals/murder-suicide folks who got Christ out of Christmans...happy holidays. Holy Day, will be next. Festivus Day. Heidegger was correct about our sickness but refused Darwin for some reason, too scientistic or something I guess. And, probably his own pride. He knew and nobody else did

    Mighty Evolution, the most wondrous thing imaginable. Nothing is the Same...a universe of particulars.

    Joe Webb

    , @joe webb
    to be fair...you are correct in your piece. However, I have only been lukewarm about Trump.

    His is the first act of the counter-revolution and it had to come from the gut, as opposed to the Thinking Corruption of our Times.

    He does not read books, and that is both good and bad. Ditto, watching Fox News.

    Murdoch the jew lover. What did we expect? More Sense may come to him from Bannon and even the other jew there, Miller. Who knows?

    I heard that the Ruskies were informed of the strike and that their stuff was not to be touched.

    "maybe I can get along with Putin"...a sorry statement but not totally dismal.

    I have cancelled all my Trump email connections and told them to go to jew hell. Maybe somebody will wise up, and maybe not.

    Trump's anti-muzzie and anti-arab gut reaction is not totally wrong. He just has to learn that the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. Goes for family too.

    Joe Webb
    , @Ivan K.

    this is exactly how all of Trump’s true-blue nationalist supporters feel after the Syrian missile strike.
     
    If you avoided the word exactly, or all, you might have written a claim that is true.

    The people getting off Trump train these days are plausibly the main reason why America appears to be a country without a future.
    Recall or take a look at any story of struggle. The challenges faced by Trump's 'former supporters' in their trust are tiny compared to the moral challenges people have faced across the planet throughout human existence.

  120. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Godfree Roberts
    All good but for "China, one of the most corrupt countries in the world".

    China's far less corrupt than The Land of the Free, though that's setting the bar low. Here's why:

    1. Corrupt governments don't prosecute 300,000 corruption cases annually.
    2. Corrupt governments don't lift 800,000,000 people out of poverty in 70 years.
    3. Corrupt governments don't double every worker's wages every 10 years.
    4. Corrupt governments don't allow 80% of people to own their homes outright.
    5. Corrupt governments don't have empty prisons
    6. Corrupt governments don't have safe streets.
    7. Corrupt governments aren't trusted by 80% of their people.
    8. Corrupt governments' policies don't get 93% public approval.

    I could go on, but China's government is not corrupt.

    The difference is that China wad extremely corrupt but they are cleaning things up.

    America was once extremely not corrupt but is sliding downward into complete corruption.

    People haven’t figured this out, or for political reasons choose the narrative of that proves their point.

    What tells me all I need to know is that China would have gunned down all the Goldman Sachs guys if that happened in China.

    Remember, in the west, only Iceland threw it’s bankers in jail.

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  121. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @john cronk
    The Saker, who posts here in the Unz Review, Ann Coulter, and John Derbyshire are each worried about some of these issues, and I don't fault them for it. They worry me too. But from observing Trump I have a guess about him. I think he's smart. I think he has a sophisticated way of seeming to give something away to his opponents while actually keeping what's important. This disarms and distracts them, to his advantage. He fakes out both his enemies and his friends, and then we find out later that he knew what he was doing all along.
    As I said before - he's nimble.

    So smart he tried to pull the whole satin false flag bs.

    I actually don’t doubt he is smart, but what does that tell you?

    It’s possible he realized that America without the petrodollar or cheap oil would be less well off.

    MAGA

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  122. joe webb says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    There is a story, possibly an apocryphal one, involving Beethoven's 3rd Symphony Eroica, which the composer had written in honor of Napoleon Bonaparte. Upon learning that Napoleon had proclaimed himself Emperor, Beethoven is said to have flown into a rage and either torn out the title page or scratched out the dedication. Here is how Wikipedia records it.

    In writing this symphony, Beethoven had been thinking of Buonaparte, but Buonaparte while he was First Consul. At that time Beethoven had the highest esteem for him, and compared him to the greatest consuls of Ancient Rome. Not only I, but many of Beethoven's closer friends, saw this symphony on his table, beautifully copied in manuscript, with the word "Buonaparte" inscribed at the very top of the title-page and "Ludwig van Beethoven" at the very bottom ...

    I was the first to tell him the news that Buonaparte had declared himself Emperor, whereupon he broke into a rage and exclaimed, "So he is no more than a common mortal! Now, too, he will tread under foot all the rights of Man, indulge only his ambition; now he will think himself superior to all men, become a tyrant!" Beethoven went to the table, seized the top of the title-page, tore it in half and threw it on the floor. The page had to be recopied, and it was only now that the symphony received the title Sinfonia eroica.
     
    I rather doubt the veracity of this romanticized version of the story, and of course today the roles are reversed, with Alt-Righters being aligned rather with the Ancien Regime than the French Revolution, but this is exactly how all of Trump's true-blue nationalist supporters feel after the Syrian missile strike.

    what is dumb dasein? Just reread a book on Heidegger by George Steiner, before I threw it out.

    Heidegger is to be located in the End of Philosophy, amidst Marxist, Gramscian, Existentialist, Structuralist, post this and that, Modernism, etc., Deconstruction and what have I overlooked?…O the Race Equality ideology which fed off the above tainted Thinking…as in God Laughs at White guys and jews Thinking…fighting over Bizarre and Rotting Ideas from the Enlightenment, the Benightenment. We are all Eee-Quallll…No Value Judgments…pig logic all splashing into the trough Equally.

    The End of Philosophy means the Beginning of Race Realism, Biology, Genetics, Evolutionary Psychology, biology, and so on.

    There is a kind of poetic sense of relevance, which is probably the only thing that kept the Heidegger follies going so long.

    I just listened to a Finnish composer whose piece I am going to look up and buy. Full of bird song, from the north of Finland, I imagine migrating flocks of Canadian Geese, etc. Reminds me of walking over a ridge in Yellowstone…and running into a flock of geese flapping only about 20 feet above me. This was a great and wondrous moment. Unforgettable. No honking , just wing sounds.

    Heidegger was sick of the sounds of Philosophy, and tried to listen to something Other. What he got close to was Genes…the actual Being that our particular beings need to tune into.

    Bourgeois Ideology, Liberal Economism, LIberal Race Equalityism, Cosmopolitanism’s din, Jewyorktimes, and crackpot Religion…jew, muzzie, and sometimes Christian as well.

    My local mountain community, just advertised an “Egg Hunt” coming up. Easter is Omitted. The same jews/liberals/murder-suicide folks who got Christ out of Christmans…happy holidays. Holy Day, will be next. Festivus Day. Heidegger was correct about our sickness but refused Darwin for some reason, too scientistic or something I guess. And, probably his own pride. He knew and nobody else did

    Mighty Evolution, the most wondrous thing imaginable. Nothing is the Same…a universe of particulars.

    Joe Webb

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  123. joe webb says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    There is a story, possibly an apocryphal one, involving Beethoven's 3rd Symphony Eroica, which the composer had written in honor of Napoleon Bonaparte. Upon learning that Napoleon had proclaimed himself Emperor, Beethoven is said to have flown into a rage and either torn out the title page or scratched out the dedication. Here is how Wikipedia records it.

    In writing this symphony, Beethoven had been thinking of Buonaparte, but Buonaparte while he was First Consul. At that time Beethoven had the highest esteem for him, and compared him to the greatest consuls of Ancient Rome. Not only I, but many of Beethoven's closer friends, saw this symphony on his table, beautifully copied in manuscript, with the word "Buonaparte" inscribed at the very top of the title-page and "Ludwig van Beethoven" at the very bottom ...

    I was the first to tell him the news that Buonaparte had declared himself Emperor, whereupon he broke into a rage and exclaimed, "So he is no more than a common mortal! Now, too, he will tread under foot all the rights of Man, indulge only his ambition; now he will think himself superior to all men, become a tyrant!" Beethoven went to the table, seized the top of the title-page, tore it in half and threw it on the floor. The page had to be recopied, and it was only now that the symphony received the title Sinfonia eroica.
     
    I rather doubt the veracity of this romanticized version of the story, and of course today the roles are reversed, with Alt-Righters being aligned rather with the Ancien Regime than the French Revolution, but this is exactly how all of Trump's true-blue nationalist supporters feel after the Syrian missile strike.

    to be fair…you are correct in your piece. However, I have only been lukewarm about Trump.

    His is the first act of the counter-revolution and it had to come from the gut, as opposed to the Thinking Corruption of our Times.

    He does not read books, and that is both good and bad. Ditto, watching Fox News.

    Murdoch the jew lover. What did we expect? More Sense may come to him from Bannon and even the other jew there, Miller. Who knows?

    I heard that the Ruskies were informed of the strike and that their stuff was not to be touched.

    “maybe I can get along with Putin”…a sorry statement but not totally dismal.

    I have cancelled all my Trump email connections and told them to go to jew hell. Maybe somebody will wise up, and maybe not.

    Trump’s anti-muzzie and anti-arab gut reaction is not totally wrong. He just has to learn that the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. Goes for family too.

    Joe Webb

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  124. Zach says:
    @Truth

    But from observing Trump I have a guess about him. I think he’s smart. I think he has a sophisticated way of seeming to give something away to his opponents while actually keeping what’s important. This disarms and distracts them, to his advantage. He fakes out both his enemies and his friends, and then we find out later that he knew what he was doing all along.
    As I said before – he’s nimble.
     
    LMFAO! "It's the old; drop-Sarin-gas-on-the-locals-with-disguised-American-aircraft-and-pretend-Assad-did-it-so-that-we-can-instigate-the-Russians-into-WWIII, trick!"*





    *You won't get that unless your at least 40.

    Actually “Get Smart” is on cable these days, so even the Millennials would understand that one

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  125. Ivan K. says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    There is a story, possibly an apocryphal one, involving Beethoven's 3rd Symphony Eroica, which the composer had written in honor of Napoleon Bonaparte. Upon learning that Napoleon had proclaimed himself Emperor, Beethoven is said to have flown into a rage and either torn out the title page or scratched out the dedication. Here is how Wikipedia records it.

    In writing this symphony, Beethoven had been thinking of Buonaparte, but Buonaparte while he was First Consul. At that time Beethoven had the highest esteem for him, and compared him to the greatest consuls of Ancient Rome. Not only I, but many of Beethoven's closer friends, saw this symphony on his table, beautifully copied in manuscript, with the word "Buonaparte" inscribed at the very top of the title-page and "Ludwig van Beethoven" at the very bottom ...

    I was the first to tell him the news that Buonaparte had declared himself Emperor, whereupon he broke into a rage and exclaimed, "So he is no more than a common mortal! Now, too, he will tread under foot all the rights of Man, indulge only his ambition; now he will think himself superior to all men, become a tyrant!" Beethoven went to the table, seized the top of the title-page, tore it in half and threw it on the floor. The page had to be recopied, and it was only now that the symphony received the title Sinfonia eroica.
     
    I rather doubt the veracity of this romanticized version of the story, and of course today the roles are reversed, with Alt-Righters being aligned rather with the Ancien Regime than the French Revolution, but this is exactly how all of Trump's true-blue nationalist supporters feel after the Syrian missile strike.

    this is exactly how all of Trump’s true-blue nationalist supporters feel after the Syrian missile strike.

    If you avoided the word exactly, or all, you might have written a claim that is true.

    The people getting off Trump train these days are plausibly the main reason why America appears to be a country without a future.
    Recall or take a look at any story of struggle. The challenges faced by Trump’s ‘former supporters’ in their trust are tiny compared to the moral challenges people have faced across the planet throughout human existence.

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  126. Dave337 says:
    @Godfree Roberts
    All good but for "China, one of the most corrupt countries in the world".

    China's far less corrupt than The Land of the Free, though that's setting the bar low. Here's why:

    1. Corrupt governments don't prosecute 300,000 corruption cases annually.
    2. Corrupt governments don't lift 800,000,000 people out of poverty in 70 years.
    3. Corrupt governments don't double every worker's wages every 10 years.
    4. Corrupt governments don't allow 80% of people to own their homes outright.
    5. Corrupt governments don't have empty prisons
    6. Corrupt governments don't have safe streets.
    7. Corrupt governments aren't trusted by 80% of their people.
    8. Corrupt governments' policies don't get 93% public approval.

    I could go on, but China's government is not corrupt.

    Glad to read China’s government is so corruption free. Though prosecuting 300k corruption cases a year apparently hasn’t found everybody honest and aboveboard, not that I should say anything negative about China without condemning my own country first. Besides where else can we get body organs from in the black market.

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  127. Of course, it’s a shame for little kids to be killed. And poisoning by gas is a nasty way to go. But the world is full of horrors. Why is this particular one any of America’s business?

    Personally, I was quite offended and outraged when ISIS released a video of themselves beheading a Palestinian Christian boy. Has Trump seen that one?

    Why are we forever picking on Pres. Assad? He and the Syrian government are the ones fighting these despicable jihadist animals. I am so saddened that Trump has been captured by the deep state. We are all doomed …

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  128. marty says:
    @Hail
    The original boyfriend, murdered, has substantial White blood and looks like Barry Obama in some picture like this one but is definitely Black by U.S. standards. Not sure which of the two accomplices in the murder is the new boyfriend; all three men are Black by U.S. standards and, I presume, Chinese standards.

    https://twitter.com/Hail__To_You/status/850739058829660166

    Yo dummies, the new boyfriend, Bayat, like all Persians undoubtedly considers himself to be “aryan.”

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  129. Dave37 says:

    I’ve read, for what it’s worth, that Assad’s forces have participated in the same kind of sadistic child killing games as ISIS.

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  130. @Godfree Roberts
    All good but for "China, one of the most corrupt countries in the world".

    China's far less corrupt than The Land of the Free, though that's setting the bar low. Here's why:

    1. Corrupt governments don't prosecute 300,000 corruption cases annually.
    2. Corrupt governments don't lift 800,000,000 people out of poverty in 70 years.
    3. Corrupt governments don't double every worker's wages every 10 years.
    4. Corrupt governments don't allow 80% of people to own their homes outright.
    5. Corrupt governments don't have empty prisons
    6. Corrupt governments don't have safe streets.
    7. Corrupt governments aren't trusted by 80% of their people.
    8. Corrupt governments' policies don't get 93% public approval.

    I could go on, but China's government is not corrupt.

    I’ve been there, my wife is Chinese; you are speaking the truth.

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  131. @Fran Macadam
    Trump found out the hard way what Obama realized right off the bat, in regards to his promises to us for hope and change: "I would have liked to have done something, but it would have pissed off too many powerful people."

    That’s too bad- that at Trumps age and after having lived a full life- he doesn’t address the deep state publicly and say:
    GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.

    Nathan Hale was only 21 when he was hanged.

    I want to take that oil painting of Old Hickory and smash it over Trump’s head.

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  132. vinteuil says:
    @Truth

    A few months ago, prior to the election, Linh Dinh ( one of the triumvirate of matchless writers-the other two being Fred and Derb-that keep me coming to Unz ) penned an article to the effect that Trump’s candidacy was a hustle and con by the Wall Street/Deep State nexus to give faux red meat to the rubes.
     
    Hey, Dinh is the smartest poster here, and he's from a country with like an 81 IQ, how does that work?

    Oh, and he married a broad who looks like him!

    (Of course, not one to toot his own horn, but Your Truly, WENT ON RECORD as spotting out this whole silly charade years ago, and I'm from a country with like a 47 IQ, so what does that mean?)


    *Federico, I know you didn't buy into this nonsense either, just having a little fun.

    “Dinh is the smartest poster here…”

    Wow, Truth.

    So it was you.

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  133. sowhat says:

    Some of us hoped that, with all of his stinky mannerisms and intentional lack of political correctness, Trump was just irritating both the left and the MSM and was going to surprise everyone with something brilliant, politically. As has been the case with stumbling, bumbling previous “Presidents”, he looks like a fish out of water, often. The only brilliance was the blinding truth- the MIIC and those that maintain it is totally in charge and controls who will be the next “Figure of State”. Now I am totally convinced America is gone (truly out of the hands of the voting public) and my suspicions that we are in an irreversible slide are probably right.

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  134. Lol. The first good thing Trump has done is crush the hopes of moronic ethnofascists. It was purely an accident, but it is enjoyable nonetheless.

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  135. woodNfish says:
    @Godfree Roberts
    All good but for "China, one of the most corrupt countries in the world".

    China's far less corrupt than The Land of the Free, though that's setting the bar low. Here's why:

    1. Corrupt governments don't prosecute 300,000 corruption cases annually.
    2. Corrupt governments don't lift 800,000,000 people out of poverty in 70 years.
    3. Corrupt governments don't double every worker's wages every 10 years.
    4. Corrupt governments don't allow 80% of people to own their homes outright.
    5. Corrupt governments don't have empty prisons
    6. Corrupt governments don't have safe streets.
    7. Corrupt governments aren't trusted by 80% of their people.
    8. Corrupt governments' policies don't get 93% public approval.

    I could go on, but China's government is not corrupt.
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  136. Che Guava says:
    @Discard
    We may not have had nerve gas, but we had the means to deliver a lot more mustard gas than the Germans could have done with their nerve gas. And no need for risky precision daylight bombing either. The B-17s and B-24s could have flown at night like the British bombers did.

    And I understand that we definitely planned to use gas in the event of an invasion of Japan. No holds barred whatsoever.

    Definitely:I would say ‘very likely’ or ‘almost certainly’. The chemical agents explicitly mentioned in the invasion plans that became available abt. twenty years ago were defoliants for use against agriculture to cause starvation.

    However, the scale of the US chemical arsenal, rate of the build-up, a statement in support of limited use by Marshall, and Macarthur’s later eagerness to use nuclear weapons in Korea all imply a very strong likelihood.

    Still, as far as I know, the only uses of gas had been by Italy in Ethiopia and lapan in China, so one would expect there may have been some resistance among senior US officers.

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  137. Che Guava says:
    @El Dato
    ...and the allies shipped mustard gas into Italy. Might be useful, right. The ships then got sunk in-harbor, leading to weird chemicals floating around.

    "Mysterious illnesses" then occurred.

    COUGH COUGH.

    Us? Never!

    Well put.

    I vaguely remember reading of something like that, long ago.

    It also killed numerous US sailors.

    While looking into that, I found two more incidents.

    The Poles bombed a bridge, part of what they used was mustard gas supplied by the British. This only exploded after German soldiers arrived, two dead, fourteen affected.

    Our historian Yoshiaki Yoshimi, found evidence in Maryland that the US *had* used gas on Japan in the late stages.

    Since he is the type of historian that most politicians and media here hate (he has also done much work on Japan’s use of gas in China, and on the military brothels), I take it as reliable.

    The article is here.

    http://www.rense.com/general83/gas.htm

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    fyi, (1) Bolsheviks used poison gas during their civil war and also during punitive expeditions against rebellious peasants.

    (2) Israel's passenger plane with chemical weapons precursors from the US on the way to Israel fell in Amsterdam.
  138. utu says:
    @Che Guava
    Well put.

    I vaguely remember reading of something like that, long ago.

    It also killed numerous US sailors.

    While looking into that, I found two more incidents.

    The Poles bombed a bridge, part of what they used was mustard gas supplied by the British. This only exploded after German soldiers arrived, two dead, fourteen affected.

    Our historian Yoshiaki Yoshimi, found evidence in Maryland that the US *had* used gas on Japan in the late stages.

    Since he is the type of historian that most politicians and media here hate (he has also done much work on Japan's use of gas in China, and on the military brothels), I take it as reliable.

    The article is here.

    http://www.rense.com/general83/gas.htm

    fyi, (1) Bolsheviks used poison gas during their civil war and also during punitive expeditions against rebellious peasants.

    (2) Israel’s passenger plane with chemical weapons precursors from the US on the way to Israel fell in Amsterdam.

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    Thanks. Do you know what the Bolsheviks used (chlorine?) and any places?

    I knew of the Amsterdam crash, but not what it had been carrying.

    BTW, back to Trump. Corrupt Roy Cohn was of course young Donald's attorney. I saw a post somewhere last week suggesting that it would be worth knowing if his brattish foreign agent son-in-law's family also had a Cohn connection. If so, it may have been the initial Trump-Kuschner link.

    Idle speculation, but certainly with a non-zero possibility.
  139. Che Guava says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    The German decision not to use gas was not entirely humanitarian. While the Germans were in fact far ahead of the Allies in the development of nerve agents, their reading of articles in chemical journals led them to conclude incorrectly that the Allies had similar chemical technology.

    The Allies always had chemical agents not too far behind the lines and serious consideration was given to using mustard gas on dug-in Japanese on Iwo Jima.

    See my reply 141 (I think). Hitler repeateadly said no to requests to use the weapons, mainly in sitmuations where was no chance of reciprocal use, even of the much less effective and much easier to shield against agents available to any other force.

    It is reasonable to assume that his feelings and thoughts were a result of his direct experience and observations 25 or so years earlier. Many Western historians agree.

    The argument you raise seems a weaselly one to refute the above. Is there any published evidence, based on primary sources? Hitler was certainly not deciding on that basis.

    One could more readily argue that the cynical dupes of Zionism didn’t use their own chemical weapons (Churchill sure wanted to, see utu’s post 84 for a little on that) because they knew or suspected that the Germans had something new, but they didn’t know what it was.

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  140. Che Guava says:
    @utu
    fyi, (1) Bolsheviks used poison gas during their civil war and also during punitive expeditions against rebellious peasants.

    (2) Israel's passenger plane with chemical weapons precursors from the US on the way to Israel fell in Amsterdam.

    Thanks. Do you know what the Bolsheviks used (chlorine?) and any places?

    I knew of the Amsterdam crash, but not what it had been carrying.

    BTW, back to Trump. Corrupt Roy Cohn was of course young Donald’s attorney. I saw a post somewhere last week suggesting that it would be worth knowing if his brattish foreign agent son-in-law’s family also had a Cohn connection. If so, it may have been the initial Trump-Kuschner link.

    Idle speculation, but certainly with a non-zero possibility.

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    Do you know what the Bolsheviks used (chlorine?) and any places?
     
    Not really but I am sure it can be found spoemwhere what kind of gas was used. This is from wiki on Tambov Rebellion

    The Bolshevik forces used chemical weapons "from end of June 1921 until apparently the fall of 1921", by direct order from the leadership of Red Army and from the Communist Party.[12] Publications in local Communist newspapers openly glorified liquidations of "bandits" with the poison gas.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tambov_Rebellion
     
    Here they say they used shells marked OB (in Russian). I do not know for what chemical agent OB stand s for.
    https://forum.axishistory.com//viewtopic.php?t=127624
  141. utu says:
    @Che Guava
    Thanks. Do you know what the Bolsheviks used (chlorine?) and any places?

    I knew of the Amsterdam crash, but not what it had been carrying.

    BTW, back to Trump. Corrupt Roy Cohn was of course young Donald's attorney. I saw a post somewhere last week suggesting that it would be worth knowing if his brattish foreign agent son-in-law's family also had a Cohn connection. If so, it may have been the initial Trump-Kuschner link.

    Idle speculation, but certainly with a non-zero possibility.

    Do you know what the Bolsheviks used (chlorine?) and any places?

    Not really but I am sure it can be found spoemwhere what kind of gas was used. This is from wiki on Tambov Rebellion

    The Bolshevik forces used chemical weapons “from end of June 1921 until apparently the fall of 1921″, by direct order from the leadership of Red Army and from the Communist Party.[12] Publications in local Communist newspapers openly glorified liquidations of “bandits” with the poison gas.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tambov_Rebellion

    Here they say they used shells marked OB (in Russian). I do not know for what chemical agent OB stand s for.

    https://forum.axishistory.com//viewtopic.php?t=127624

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  142. Eagle Eye says:
    @Miro23

    Likewise, each nation has its own special history. And each nation is stamped by a unique story of a dominant ethnic group. And each nation has a rich history, culture, folklore, and tradition. It is up to each people of each nation to safeguard, preserve, defend, and disseminate this specialized body of national-cultural knowledge among all its members.
     
    This is exactly the problem.

    The US is based on Anglo traditions and immigrants have been attracted to this tradition, and have integrated into a society based on European derived law, embodied in the Constitution and providing a level playing field to all citizens.

    Jewish immigrants, arriving in the early 20th century had a completely different religion and tradition, with practices developed over millennia, involving strong social barriers to integration, and choosing to live apart from majority populations for centuries in countries such as Germany, Poland, Russia, Austria-Hungary etc.

    When they emigrated to the US, it was unsurprisingly to operate the same system, with the vital difference that they were now free to leverage their advancement through being allowed to hold high government positions (supposedly to benefit and safeguard all Americans) and exert pro-Jewish racial patronage across the economy with no hindrance(i.e. build a state within a state).

    Anglo nationalism is a major threat to them.

    Jews have a distinct identity in the US (despite in fact having become mixed race European /Semitic they "Obama-ize" - the White European part disappears), probably because of the economic gains in joining the Tribe. And their risk is very similar to the risk run by the commercial Chinese minority in S/E Asia.

    Chinese oligarchs can take Thai names and be Thais with the Thais, be Chinese with the Chinese and exert ratchet effect ethnic patronage to gain control of industries with exploitative monopoly rights in alliance with corrupt ethnic majority politicians - but there's always a background threat to their parasitism.

    It's a full time job to keep the host under control and probably safer, if possible, to knock out ethnic majority power completely as in fact the (1% ethnic minority) Bolshevik Jews did to the Russians in 1917. Absolute power enabled millions of ethnic Russians and Ukrainians to be murdered or sent to the Gulag with whole social classes of potential opponents being eliminated.

    This seems to be the process underway in the US at present, with a search for a suitable National Emergency to enable a pre-prepared COG (Continuity Of Government) totalitarian Corporate/Globalist/Zionist dictatorship.

    The US is based on Anglo traditions and immigrants have been attracted to this tradition, and have integrated into a society based on European derived law, embodied in the Constitution and providing a level playing field to all citizens.

    This is technically true, but the magic sauce that enabled the U.S. to take off and stay airborne for over 200 years is the peculiar spirit and philosophy of empirical skepticism and restraint that undergirds the English Common Law.

    French traditions would have led – as they did in France itself – to rule by a ravening sect of Jacobins quickly spiraling into accelerating fratricidal guillotining of “deviationists.”

    The French-style constitution – had one actually been created by an American Robespierre amidst the murder and mayhem – would have provided for the greatest possible centralization of government power, perhaps in the hands of a self-appointed three-man directorate (i.e. a classical triumvirate).

    Instead of the brilliant principle of gridlock-by-design, the French-style constitution would have glittered with all the wonderful “new ideas” that are still fashionable among the 45%-educated in 2017, such as a “rational” 10-day week, a South American-style laundry list of positive “rights” such as rights to abode, work, sex etc.

    Lastly, the French-style constitution would have included a jihad directive commanding the citoyens to go out and spread their new “humanity” to the rest of the world no matter the cost in blood and treasure.

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    This is technically true, but the magic sauce that enabled the U.S. to take off and stay airborne for over 200 years is the peculiar spirit and philosophy of empirical skepticism and restraint that undergirds the English Common Law.
     
    I would agree with that, English Common Law is different from European Constitutional (Napoleonic) law, and like you say it has that unique "spirit and philosophy of empirical skepticism and restraint".

    Tom Bingham (Britain's former senior Law Lord) wrote an excellent little book about it; "The Rule of Law".

    In Part 1 he looks at the sources of present British law from the Magna Carta onwards, and in Part 2 discusses the key parts of the present British system also referencing U.S. law.

    Part 3 is an exposition of the Rule of Law and the Sovereignty of Parliament (parliament takes priority), and Terrorism and the Rule of Law (a "War on Terror" isn't a real war in the WW2 sense). It becomes more than clear that this particular "War" has seriously curtailed basic Human Rights with regard to torture, detention without trial, kidnapping and the right to privacy (phone tapping without judicial order).

    And it's a very good place to check on for example, the legal meaning of, "Equality Before the Law" or "A Fair Trial". https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rule-Law-Tom-Bingham/dp/014103453X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491977277&sr=8-1&keywords=rule+of+law+tom+bingham

    (BTW Tom Bingham isn't a Terrorist)

  143. Miro23 says:
    @Eagle Eye

    The US is based on Anglo traditions and immigrants have been attracted to this tradition, and have integrated into a society based on European derived law, embodied in the Constitution and providing a level playing field to all citizens.
     
    This is technically true, but the magic sauce that enabled the U.S. to take off and stay airborne for over 200 years is the peculiar spirit and philosophy of empirical skepticism and restraint that undergirds the English Common Law.

    French traditions would have led - as they did in France itself - to rule by a ravening sect of Jacobins quickly spiraling into accelerating fratricidal guillotining of "deviationists."

    The French-style constitution - had one actually been created by an American Robespierre amidst the murder and mayhem - would have provided for the greatest possible centralization of government power, perhaps in the hands of a self-appointed three-man directorate (i.e. a classical triumvirate).

    Instead of the brilliant principle of gridlock-by-design, the French-style constitution would have glittered with all the wonderful "new ideas" that are still fashionable among the 45%-educated in 2017, such as a "rational" 10-day week, a South American-style laundry list of positive "rights" such as rights to abode, work, sex etc.

    Lastly, the French-style constitution would have included a jihad directive commanding the citoyens to go out and spread their new "humanity" to the rest of the world no matter the cost in blood and treasure.

    This is technically true, but the magic sauce that enabled the U.S. to take off and stay airborne for over 200 years is the peculiar spirit and philosophy of empirical skepticism and restraint that undergirds the English Common Law.

    I would agree with that, English Common Law is different from European Constitutional (Napoleonic) law, and like you say it has that unique “spirit and philosophy of empirical skepticism and restraint”.

    Tom Bingham (Britain’s former senior Law Lord) wrote an excellent little book about it; “The Rule of Law”.

    In Part 1 he looks at the sources of present British law from the Magna Carta onwards, and in Part 2 discusses the key parts of the present British system also referencing U.S. law.

    Part 3 is an exposition of the Rule of Law and the Sovereignty of Parliament (parliament takes priority), and Terrorism and the Rule of Law (a “War on Terror” isn’t a real war in the WW2 sense). It becomes more than clear that this particular “War” has seriously curtailed basic Human Rights with regard to torture, detention without trial, kidnapping and the right to privacy (phone tapping without judicial order).

    And it’s a very good place to check on for example, the legal meaning of, “Equality Before the Law” or “A Fair Trial”. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rule-Law-Tom-Bingham/dp/014103453X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491977277&sr=8-1&keywords=rule+of+law+tom+bingham

    (BTW Tom Bingham isn’t a Terrorist)

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  144. Svigor says:

    Godfree Roberts says:
    April 8, 2017 at 10:19 pm GMT • 400 Words

    Godfree is probably in the yellow-firster wing of the YT-Last contingent.

    More food for thought:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=dzungar+genocide&btnG=Search&hl=en&gbv=1

    mao zedong atrocities

    Mao’s Great Leap Forward ‘killed 45 million in four years’ Mao Zedong, founder of the People’s Republic of China, qualifies as the greatest mass murderer in world history, an expert who had unprecedented access to official Communist Party archives said yesterday.

    But who are 45 million Chinese, or an entire ethnic group, next to a couple thousand Tibetans? Or maybe everyone knows Chinese are mass-murderers, but it’s a shock when western Europeans dip a toe into the pool?

    I’m not sure I agree with that expert, by the way. I think % of world population killed is a proper metric, because the raw numbers don’t take into account changing world population (to say nothing of technological advances). While they did it over generations, so no one man was in charge the entire time, most estimates say the Mongols murdered somewhere between 7 and 9 percent of the world’s population. Mao can’t claim anywhere near that figure.

    So, we have two yellow groups, Mongols and Chinese, vying for the mass murder pennant. What a coincidence!

    Brits killing a couple thousand Tibetans isn’t even a rounding error, in this game.

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  145. Svigor says:

    My mistake, forgot to name the ethnic group I mentioned, the Dzungars.

    A few months ago, prior to the election, Linh Dinh ( one of the triumvirate of matchless writers-the other two being Fred and Derb-that keep me coming to Unz ) penned an article to the effect that Trump’s candidacy was a hustle and con by the Wall Street/Deep State nexus to give faux red meat to the rubes.
    The commentariat here at Unz reacted with a mixture of scorn, outrage and contempt.
    I wonder if those same individuals feel the same way now ?

    Dunno, I’m still stuck on Fred; unmatchably unreadable, maybe.

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  146. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I think you’re being a bit too rough on Trump. He did seem to backtrack back a bit when he attacked Syria, but still seems determined to put up the wall, fight sanctuary cities, fight against the establishment of a 21st Century Caliphate on Western soil, etc.

    Maybe he’s throwing the neocons and their liberal masters a few bones to keep them off his back a little, or perhaps allow himself to have 1 weekend where he doesn’t have to open the newspaper and see a new way he’s been labeled as the bastard spawn of Hitler and Satan. Maybe its a good thing, if it greases the wheels a bit, relieves some tension to let him keep plowing away at the domestic end of things, which frankly is a far more serious issue. Maybe it’s true what people say about him playing chess at a master’s level.

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  147. Svigor says:

    I think you’re being a bit too rough on Trump. He did seem to backtrack back a bit when he attacked Syria, but still seems determined to put up the wall, fight sanctuary cities, fight against the establishment of a 21st Century Caliphate on Western soil, etc.

    Maybe he’s throwing the neocons and their liberal masters a few bones to keep them off his back a little, or perhaps allow himself to have 1 weekend where he doesn’t have to open the newspaper and see a new way he’s been labeled as the bastard spawn of Hitler and Satan. Maybe its a good thing, if it greases the wheels a bit, relieves some tension to let him keep plowing away at the domestic end of things, which frankly is a far more serious issue. Maybe it’s true what people say about him playing chess at a master’s level.

    For what it’s worth, I made a comment like this well before Trump struck Assad. So it’s not really out of left field.

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    You have to be joking Trump couldn't even play hearts not to mention chess what we have now is a White House in chaos, with his daughter and son-in-law calling the shots Rex went to Moscow with the same old bullshit that the Obama regime preached, sanction's Ukraine and Syria, how his Russian counterpart resisted the impulse to reach across and slap some sense into him is beyond me as far as the Great Wall of Mexico forget it for its not going to happen, for Syria Russia China and the bad boys will be occupying the airwaves, Trumps line about those beautiful baby's was a line of crap, reminded me of old Bush and the Saddam troops dumping out all those beautiful babies in Kuwait, when the truth was Trump couldn't care less about those beautiful babies anymore than Bush did, but it did tweek the heart a bit as it was intended
    , @Truth

    Maybe he’s throwing the neocons and their liberal masters a few bones...
     
    LMFAO! A few bones?!?!?

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c0/c3/da/c0c3da256bd2b072a9c085b5bec74ede.jpg
  148. bluedog says:
    @Svigor

    I think you’re being a bit too rough on Trump. He did seem to backtrack back a bit when he attacked Syria, but still seems determined to put up the wall, fight sanctuary cities, fight against the establishment of a 21st Century Caliphate on Western soil, etc.

    Maybe he’s throwing the neocons and their liberal masters a few bones to keep them off his back a little, or perhaps allow himself to have 1 weekend where he doesn’t have to open the newspaper and see a new way he’s been labeled as the bastard spawn of Hitler and Satan. Maybe its a good thing, if it greases the wheels a bit, relieves some tension to let him keep plowing away at the domestic end of things, which frankly is a far more serious issue. Maybe it’s true what people say about him playing chess at a master’s level.
     
    For what it's worth, I made a comment like this well before Trump struck Assad. So it's not really out of left field.

    You have to be joking Trump couldn’t even play hearts not to mention chess what we have now is a White House in chaos, with his daughter and son-in-law calling the shots Rex went to Moscow with the same old bullshit that the Obama regime preached, sanction’s Ukraine and Syria, how his Russian counterpart resisted the impulse to reach across and slap some sense into him is beyond me as far as the Great Wall of Mexico forget it for its not going to happen, for Syria Russia China and the bad boys will be occupying the airwaves, Trumps line about those beautiful baby’s was a line of crap, reminded me of old Bush and the Saddam troops dumping out all those beautiful babies in Kuwait, when the truth was Trump couldn’t care less about those beautiful babies anymore than Bush did, but it did tweek the heart a bit as it was intended

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  149. Truth says:
    @Svigor

    I think you’re being a bit too rough on Trump. He did seem to backtrack back a bit when he attacked Syria, but still seems determined to put up the wall, fight sanctuary cities, fight against the establishment of a 21st Century Caliphate on Western soil, etc.

    Maybe he’s throwing the neocons and their liberal masters a few bones to keep them off his back a little, or perhaps allow himself to have 1 weekend where he doesn’t have to open the newspaper and see a new way he’s been labeled as the bastard spawn of Hitler and Satan. Maybe its a good thing, if it greases the wheels a bit, relieves some tension to let him keep plowing away at the domestic end of things, which frankly is a far more serious issue. Maybe it’s true what people say about him playing chess at a master’s level.
     
    For what it's worth, I made a comment like this well before Trump struck Assad. So it's not really out of left field.

    Maybe he’s throwing the neocons and their liberal masters a few bones…

    LMFAO! A few bones?!?!?

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  150. Svigor says:

    On the plausibility scale, I’d put my comment past cars that run on water, yes.

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  151. SR says:

    So ISIS, an organization of the most militant Islamic extremists on the planet, the latter having for centuries been the sworn enemy of the Jews, is nonetheless an ally of the Israelis.

    How does that work?

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  152. John – this isn’t in contradiction of your opinion if correct in saying that, contrary to populsr belief, Assad is very fsr from winning, but you may think it worth feeding intp your personal mobile data base…

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/fighting-islamic-state/sarin-attack-shows-assad-is-desperate-as-jihadist-rebels-gain-ground/news-story/5265dee03a779671aefa32ef8d1a2fb3

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