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Friday finds me in an unusually buoyant mood about the immigration outlook—long term. But first, was the President’s much-denounced remark fair? Let’s investigate.

In Haiti‘s case the President’s remark was very apt. From the National Public Radio website, dated July 29th 2017: You Probably Don’t Want To Know About Haiti’s Sewage Problems (by Rebecca Hersher) describing the state of sanitation in Haiti in fascinating detail:

Port-au-Prince, Haiti, is one of the largest cities in the world without a central sewage system. There are no sewers connecting sinks, showers and toilets to hulking wastewater treatment plants. Most of the more than 3 million people in the metro area use outhouses, and much of that waste ends up in canals, ditches and other unsanitary dumping grounds where it can contaminate drinking water and spread disease.

When it rains, the canals overflow and flood poor neighborhoods.

Since the earthquake in 2010, international groups have spent millions of dollars on a plan to build eight open-air sewage treatment plants across Haiti. Seven years on, only one of the eight is operational.

That one is

below capacity and struggling to cover its operating costs. International money covered its construction, but domestic funding and customer fees are insufficient to cover long-term maintenance and payroll.

One other of the eight did open in 2012, funded by the government of Spain, but it was shut down eighteen months later, and remains closed. Plans for the others have been abandoned.

 Gabriel Toto, 35, has been working as a bayakou, or latrine cleaner, for a decade. On nights without a journalist watching, he generally works naked.A rainstorm on Good Friday last year filled the streets and alleys of one Port-au-Prince neighborhood with 3 feet of raw sewage. Seven people drowned in it. A guy interviewed for the NPR report got an infection that still hasn’t gone away

You get the picture. I’ve spared you the more graphic details; but if you sometimes think you have the worst job in the world, by all means go read that NPR report, which describes the work of the latrine-cleaning guys.

“Outhouse country”—my preferred euphemism for the President’s alleged remark— isn’t a bad description for a nation of eleven million people with one poorly-maintained sewage treatment plant struggling to stay in operation.

It’s the same in black Africa. Ghana, for instance, is one of the more stable and peaceful nations in West Africa, a self-governing independent nation for more than sixty years. Here’s a quote from a UNICEF report dated July 2016:

Ghana has a very low coverage for wastewater and faecal sludge treatment … The national average for sewerage coverage is as low as 4.5 percent. Tema is the only municipality with a comprehensive sewerage system. Accra [that’s the capital] has a sewerage system covering the State House and ministries area and parts of the Central Business District … The treatment facilities for both the Accra and Tema systems have broken down and [are] not in use.

UNICEF Assessment Of Waste Water Treatment Plants In Ghana By Civil Engineering Department, July, 2016, PDF

Open Sewage in GhanaThat’s Ghana, which as I said is a poster boy for development and progress in sub-Saharan Africa. (Pictured right–open sewage in a Ghanan village.) I just did some cursory checking on the situation in Nigeria, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. Check them yourself, if you have the stomach for it.

Outhouse countries? I’d say President Trump nailed it.

OK, so what about this White House meeting with congressfolk to talk immigration laws?

The initial meeting, on Tuesday, was televised—an unusual thing for a gathering of this kind. The general assumption was that the President wanted to show himself chairing a big event like this knowledgably and authoritatively, putting the lie to Michael Wolff’s book with its stories about how ignorant and indecisive he is.

Whether that was the reason for televising the thing, and whether, if it was, the ploy succeeded, is a matter of opinion. I watched Tucker Carlson and then Sean Hannity back-to-back Tuesday evening. Carlson was not happy. His brow furrows were so deep you could hide quarters in them. The President, he implied, had been totally rolled by the congressweasels. He’d given the cheap-labor and open-borders lobbies everything they want, in return for nothing at all.

Hannity on the other hand was upbeat. The President, he told us, was totally in control of the situation. He’d just been pretending to defer to reptiles like Diane Feinstein. Actually, he was playing four-dimensional chess.

My own take on the meeting was closer to Carlson than Hannity. The President seemed clumsy and ill-informed. The bit where he was about to hand the keys of the store to Feinstein until Kevin McCarthy stepped in and warned him not to, was seriously embarrassing.

The President, or his advisors, tried to repair the damage afterwards, putting out stern-sounding statements. But if the President’s performance on-camera was a sample of his negotiating skills, his next book should be titled The Art of the Kneel.

Who were they, these legislators in the room with Trump, the new DHS Secretary, and three White House staffers?

Well, there were 25 of them: 16 Senators, 9 Representatives. That’s nicely Pythagorean, for a hypoteneuse of five … sorry, sorry.

Checking their grades for immigration at NumbersUSA on the recent voting records, 2015 to 2018, I see three As, three Bs, one C-plus, three Cs, seven Ds, and nine Fs. Six of those nine Fs are F-minuses, including two Republicans: Lindsey Graham, of course, and Miami Representative (and Steve Sailer doppelganger) Díaz-Balart.

That gives you a median grade, across all the congressroaches present there, between D and D-minus. These are the people who are going to reform our immigration laws. [Laughter.]

It doesn’t look good. So … why am I buoyant? Shouldn’t I be sunk in despair, like Tucker Carlson?

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Well, I have no great hopes of real patriotic immigration reform from this Congress and this President. I’m sticking to my prediction that Congress will throw Trump a small bone—an end to the “diversity visa” lottery is my guess—in return for a mass amnesty of illegals. The whole thing will of course be dressed up with promises on border security and enforcement—promises that will never be kept.

Taking a longer view, though, I think there’s been some kind of breakthrough here. Fifteen years ago, I wrote a column arguing that there was something in the national psyche of the U.S.A. that prevented Americans from thinking seriously about immigration. Even quite prominent opinionators used to be clueless about immigration issues. My long-time favorite example: Bill O’Reilly quacking that what the country needed was a guest-worker program—when, as I got weary of pointing out, we already had twenty-odd guest-worker programs, covering everything from fruit pickers to opera singers.

Now it seems like every time I turn on the TV someone’s talking about immigration; and the general level of knowledge among the talking heads is higher than it used to be. Tucker Carlson has really done his homework; he’s light years ahead of where O’Reilly used to be.

I believe I’m noticing a similar improvement among ordinary Americans. In conversation with a not-particularly-political neighbor yesterday, I was surprised to hear him pour scorn on the fuss about the President’s referring to outhouse countries. “If those countries are not outhouses,” my neighbor said—I’ve bowdlerized slightly—”why should these illegals [I’m just quoting him, the TPS folk are not all illegals] mind going back?”

That’s a very obvious point to those of us who’ve been working the immigration beat for years. To hear it from a layman, though, was striking.

There flashed through my mind the joyous thought: We’re getting through!

As I said, I’m taking the long view here. You may say—and Ann Coulter, for example, does say—that taking the long view isn’t much use; that if we don’t get this fixed now, the whole country will go the way of California: traditional America, its laws and customs, drowned beneath a tide of aliens.

I think we have more time than that. As Peter Brimelow and Ed Rubenstein argued here at VDARE.com five years ago, the GOP could be alive and well in today’s California even if no blacks or Latinos voted for it. It’s California’s whites that have turned the state blue.

To the nation at large that applies a fortiori. We just need to wake up white Americans somehow—white women especially. Call me a cockeyed optimist, but I believe I do see early signs of that awakening. Say not the struggle naught availeth!

A key front in the struggle is numeracy. The wisest thing ever said about immigration—I quote it at pretty regular intervals, three or four times a year—is: “Numbers are of the essence.” That’s a shame, because the way the human mind is structured, most of us have great difficulty thinking about big numbers.

There are functioning human societies whose language contains no words for numbers at all. Even among civilized peoples who know their multiplication tables, the main reference number for everyday thinking about human affairs is usually “one.”

So if you get a conversation going with Joe Q. Public about immigration from Central America, you’ll hear something like: “Well, I have this guy from Guatemala who comes in to look after my garden. He’s great—a really hard worker!” And Joe’s thinking about the immigration issue stops around there.

Again, our recent public conversations have done a lot to improve understanding. Respectable people, politicians and TV talking heads, have been discussing “chain migration.” As a result, it has sunk in to a lot of American heads that, while a million immigrants isn’t many among our population of a third of a billion, the million quickly swells to tens, then hundreds of millions.

I really do think there’s an enlightenment going on: or rather, as I wrote three years ago when I got my first glimpses of it, an Entzauberung, a de-magicking or de-sacralizing of the immigration topic. Immigration no longer carries the high moral charge it once did. People are coming to understand that it’s just a policy, like farm price supports or interstate highways maintenance.

And this administration is doing some quiet good work at enforcing the people’s laws on immigration. Even if this current round of argumentation between the President and Congress comes to nothing—which is quite likely—there’s an immense amount that can be done with the laws we already have.

Example: Here’s a posting at Reddit.com by an IT developer cutting code at some big corporation. Ninety percent of his colleagues are from India, he tells us. Quote:

The typical scenario is that every year, a stack of visas goes in for renewal and about a week later they come back stamped [APPROVED] … At the start of this year, instead of coming back approved, each application came back with a huge list of questions and requests for documentation about why the applicants were being paid so little. The lawyers were confused and assembled a huge pile of documentation for each applicant and sent it back. Every single application then came back with either more questions or a denial. EVERY SINGLE ONE is either in limbo or denied … As a result of this, our company’s HR department has quietly decided … to no longer hire employees that need sponsorship. Trump quietly working behind the scenes on H1B Visas, personal story, January 11, 2018

That’s just one candle in the darkness. Here’s another: Wednesday this week, from the Detroit News:

Immigration agents descended on dozens of 7-Eleven convenience stores before dawn … to begin checking on employees’ immigration status … Agents targeted about 100 stores nationwide … Twenty-one people suspected of being in the U.S. illegally were arrested.

7-Eleven probe opens new front on immigration, by Elliot Spagat, Associated Press,January 10, 2018

I tell you, things are looking up. Yes, I’m feeling buoyant.

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John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Rosie says:

    The trad-thots are coming!

    https://www.lifezette.com/momzette/kids-are-being-taught-theyre-flawed-if-theyre-white/

    The question is whether the alt-Right will represent White women, or whether we will need a movement of our own.

    I would much prefer the former.

  2. utu says:

    Good article. And few good insights like the one about the de-sacralization.

    Trump quietly working behind the scenes on H1B Visas – I would like to believe it.

    he was playing four-dimensional chess – this I am skeptical of.

  3. llloyd says: • Website

    Like you and your wife having taken the trouble and expense to leave your homelands, you don’t desire immediate return. At least I don’t think so. These countries referred to by Trump are much less shit holes in their countryside. They get plenty of tourists who see the best parts and feel quite benign about them. Trump of course as a rich man’s son has never back packed or lived in them so his image of them is well putrid.

  4. Biff says:

    Haiti is still a white man’s slave colony(open air sweat shop, with fixed wages).
    The standards are clearly above par, with bragging rights.

    “The mark-up will get the kids through Harvard, now I’m off to club a baby seal – Ta, ta”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  5. Please research it! There are munch higher percentiles of educated people living in the “huts” or “shitholes” as King Tump calls them than in the US! So the immigration is dead and I believe there’s going to be a natural regression of brown/black immigrants coming to the US! More than likely with the help of the new world being China, the educated people will strive to improve the living conditions in their own countries which is the best thing can happen!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  6. Shrub and Bubba absconded with the rebuild dough….Haiti still a shit hole.

  7. Thomm says:
    @Rosie

    @Rosie,

    Since when do women care about children? On the contrary, women are adept at positioning themselves between resources allocated for children and the intended child recipients, so that women can take the biggest cut first.

    Furthermore, ‘women and children first’ is pretty much just women using children to save themselves (so that they can later insist that they are the equals of men).

    The question is whether the alt-Right will represent White women, or whether we will need a movement of our own.

    Since White Nationalism is a goddess cult and has at least 95% overlap with feminism, you already have your own movement. Tons of fat, bluehaired sisters exist, so you can join up with them.

    Plus :

    Aaron Clarey : How Tradthots prove Western Civ does not deserve to survive.

    Roosh : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEwx6LwqfZs

    But I am glad that Tradthots are draining funds from WN incel males. In terms of that, carry on by all means.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @unit472
    , @Rosie
  8. Thomm says:
    @Rosie

    https://www.lifezette.com/momzette/kids-are-being-taught-theyre-flawed-if-theyre-white/

    This is bad. But note that it is white teachers and principles promoting this. I have explained the reasons for this before (far-left white women are the female equivalent of WN males, i.e. bottom 20% whites).

    • Replies: @Thomm
  9. There are, in my opinion, two reasons for people arguing for large scale immigration:
    - business interests that want to keep wages low, and do not give a damn about the future
    - what in Europe are called ‘Gutmenschen’, ‘gut’ is good, ‘mensch’ can best be translated here by ‘person’, who either think that the west robbed and robs the third world, thus has a moral obligation, or (and) think that the west must prevent poverty all over the world.

    That just a short time ago, middle 19th century, most people in the west were poor, they do not know, nor do they realise that the poor in the west succeeded in improving their lives by themselves.
    One of my great grandfathers around 1880 was an illiterate peat worker, his life was comparable to that of a slave.

    We see in countries like Uganda, Kenia, Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) what a mess self government created, S Africa is going the same way.

    As the German macro economist Thilo Sarrazin writes, he was a member of the Board of the Bundesbank ‘we do not have the responsibility for poor countries, and cannot have that responsibility. We cannot even change the culture of Greece’.
    Merkel fired Sarrazin after his first book was published, 2010.

  10. Thomm says:
    @Thomm

    White teachers, Principals, and Superintendents.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  11. Nice column. I like your fact-checking of the President’s rude but accurate remark.

    And your optimism is a nice change. May it be warranted!

    And Entzauberung is a useful, dare I say, enchanting, word.

  12. David says:

    Here in horrible Vermont, when I hear guff about “flatlanders,” (yes, that really is what Vermonters call all the rest of Americans) I remind them how much better things will be when all us outsiders are replaced by Syrian refugees. “Then you’ll finally have the neighbors you deserve.” The uncomfortable dawning on their faces of what race-replacement will actually mean for them is worth the alienation.

  13. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-12/africa-is-sending-us-its-best-and-brightest

    One of the most striking facts about immigration to the U.S., unbeknownst even to many immigration advocates, is the superior education of Africans coming to this country. If we consider adults age 25 or older, born in Africa and living in the U.S., 41.7 of them have a bachelor’s degree or more, according to 2009 data. For contrast, the native-born population has a bachelor’s degree or more at the much lower rate of only 28.1 percent in these estimates, and foreign-born adults as a whole have a college degree at the rate of 26.8 percent, both well below the African rate.

  14. I do think about the numbers. I think about them not in terms of agricultureal employee, but hundreds swamping communities, with their children seating classrooms. Forcing school systems to to have interpreters or forcing instructors to learn a second language instead of the other way around. The hundreds of ESL courses. I think of entire populations with no pressure to learn what it means to be a US citizen and their cultural, economic impacts which they don’t pay for.

    i think of cities such as San Francisco and Los Angeles with populations so large illegal immigrants serve on juries and petitions to elect illegal immigrants, who don’t speak the language running for city and state offices.

    I think of the squeeze play against US citizens for manual labor and posts in social services including city and state jobs. I think of major employers such as elctric boat cutting corners in expenses by hiring foreigners through VISA programs and straight illegal immigrants.

    I think if the numbers are so large that the president of the US can’t stand up to law makers supporting breaking the law and undermining the lives of US citizens we are deep deep trouble. When the numbers are so large that governors, mayors lack either the integrity or the courage to stand up and say no – we are in trouble.

    When colleges are engaged in violent protests to defend illegal immigrants and their support systems against the very population that makes college possible – we are in very big trouble in this country.

    When someone such as Miss Coulter wants to import her wealthy friends and the best and the brightest from other states who support government programs already to extended to manage effectively — we are in trouble.

    When the president thinks that untidy slights, is diplomacy and acknowledging that something like DACA (a perfect example of the problem) is worth salvaging) then all of blathering on about the quality of other states is toothless folly.

    Maybe we should import instructors in math and the sciences and get rid of US employed instructors in every field save social studies — goodness we can’t get our own to teach accurate history and supportive meaning, why add more foreign instructors piling on more guilt on misguided impressionable youngsters, who think the US stole California.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  15. unit472 says:

    I accept that the so called ” Dreamers” will never be sent back but Trump can leverage them and set up bureaucratic procedures ( and fees) that will keep most of them in legal limbo for years if not decades.
    Make documentation rigorous and filing the required paperwork such that the process would best be handled by an immigration attorney ( that will keep a potent Democrat lobby group happy). Make the fees high enough to cover the cost of administering the green card and naturalization process and make it a multiyear process where a DUI or other criminal charge voids the application. Do this and your basic Dreamer will not have the time, money or documentation to ever qualify for citizenship. It would be a bit like the Student Loan Program. There is a way to discharge the debt but, for most, it just won’t happen anytime soon!

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  16. unit472 says:
    @Thomm

    Maybe you should write in English instead of links, obscure acronyms and terminology.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  17. America’s decline accelerates…

  18. @Ali Choudhury

    You are presenting a distorted picture of reality, fact is there was at one time a sort of “Educated” upper class in Africa, which then sent it’s children to Europe/GB for university training, however the current situation is that of waves of Africans arriving in Italy, Germany, France with, thanks to MTV, their pants hanging below their butts, baseball caps, and menacing thug looks on their faces, such as in Detroit or Chicago.

    At one time the Africans in Europe were indeed cultured, educated, well-dressed gentile individuals, however now things have radically changed and the Europeans are confronted with the same disheartening scenario as in any major US urban area : thugs and sullen trouble-makers.

    And before you try to label myself as a “racist” : I shared an apartment with a fellow black musician for several years.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained Us army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
  19. @jilles dykstra

    “Gutmensch” is the self-applied title used by leftist Germans to describe the anti-US Republican ( Germans hate US Republicans with a purple passion) DT hating, mass-immigration supporters, supposed anti-racist, vegan, anti-automobile, anti-capitalism, birkenstock-wearing, bio-consuming hypocritical German nut-cases, in other words the whole cultural-marxist spectrum.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

  20. wayfarer says:

    “You never want a serious crisis, to go to waste!”
    – infamous puppet-politician.

    Got shitholes?

    Then look no further than, Southern “sanctuary shithole” California.

    Gotta wonder, what could be causing the recent hepatitis epidemic in San Diego county.

    Of course, with a war-on-homeless being waged in the “sanctuary shithole” state of California, puppet-politicians had a perfect opportunity to point their hypocritical fingers at America’s destitute deplorables.

    Some critics of San Diego’s response to a deadly outbreak of Hepatitis A among the homeless population are placing partial blame on the recent plastic bag ban.

    source: http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/09/25/plastic-bag-ban-partially-responsible-for-man-made-hepatitis-crisis-in-san-diego/

    I surfed San Diego beaches, for over forty years. In my experience, Imperial Beach has always had problems with continuously recurring raw sewage spills flowing north out of Tijuana, Mexico.

    source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Beach,_California

    Tijuana River Raw Sewage Spillage

    …..

    • Replies: @wayfarer
    , @Biff
  21. They ARE [Outhouse] Countries

    They are?

    If the moral cesspool known as the USA is so great, then why did the Trumpster feel a need to campaign on a promist to make it great again?

    Any claim to “greatness” is well past it’s freshness date, so maybe we should consider cleaning up our own messes first.

    • Replies: @fnn
    , @Clyde
  22. @jilles dykstra

    We see in countries like Uganda, Kenia, Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) what a mess self government created, S Africa is going the same way.

    What makes you think that they are self-governed?

    I bet they are about as self-governed as the US and many European states which in reality means that they’re governed by a handful of international bankers.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  23. And speaking of sewage problems, do cities on the East Coast still barge their garbage out to sea?

    Has anyone been to the gulf of Mexico lately? It’s a huge industrial and household waste cesspit since as far back as I can remember.

    The Mississippi has likewise been a dumping ground for decades if not centuries

    Likewise, the Florida Keys and coral reefs have long been threatened by the dumping of raw sewage, but since it mostly comes from enclaves of the rich, I guess the shit doesn’t stink.

    https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/southflorida/regions/keys/threats/

    I have not been to any of Florida’s East Coast beaches for a while, but I bet garbage still washes up onto them.

    America needs to clean its own smelly tusch first, and by the looks of it, we have our hands as well as our shorts full.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Alfa158
  24. Rosie says:
    @Thomm

    Given that your view that we don’t love our own kids is going mainstream within the alt-Right, it’s quite ridiculous to call it a goddess cult. Indeed, alt-Right commentators increasingly speak of us as though we’re not even human, let alone divine. We have no reasoning ability, lack a conscience, etc.

    • Replies: @Selvar
  25. Rosie says:
    @Thomm

    Whites shamed into self-hatred, that is.

    Either way, explicit White advocacy is the only solution.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  26. wayfarer says:
    @wayfarer

    edit: [to previous post]

    Health information for travelers to Mexico — CDC recommends this vaccine because you can get hepatitis-A through contaminated food or water in Mexico, regardless of where you are eating or staying.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/traveler/none/mexico

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention

    So the point is, this recent hepatitis-A epidemic in the “sanctuary shithole” state of California, is not being caused by its destitute homeless population as puppet-politicians would like you to believe, but in fact by Mexico’s raw-sewage imports and no doubt by many of its unvetted immigrants, legal or otherwise.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    , @Alden
    , @anonymous
  27. It’s California’s whites that have turned the state blue.

    We just need to wake up white Americans somehow—white women especially.

    Thanks Derb. The most helpful helpful idiots are self hating whites. We know there are self respecting whites because sixty three million of them voted for Trump. It’s important for self respecting whites to teach their children it’s Okay to be white. Nobody else is going to do it.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @attilathehen
  28. Ingrid B says:

    Let`s face it, the US, and it`s handlers, are to blame for much of the state of the planet, iuvading other countries, and stealing their stuff. How about suing the clintons, and returning the billions stolen from the people of Haitti.
    Had Ghaddafi not been brutally murdered by US mercenaries, had he been allowed to implement his plans, all, or most of Africa might have been much better off.
    It isn`t as though the US can claim much in the way of superiority. I listened to a report on a pod this morning, about the disgusting way patients without insurance are treated by medical facilities in the US. One woman was parked by a bus stop, in her wheelchair, in freezing temperatures, wearing nothing but a hospital gown. So before Trump, or any other hoity, toity American, points a finger at countries left to wallow in poverty, because they have been exploited, why doesn`t Trump and his fellow exploiters of the American taxpayers, clean up the mess within their own borders.
    Personally, I can`t understand why anyone would want to live in today`s America, I feel so sorry for the decent, law abiding American citizens, who`se government appears to be working against them, in order to enrich the tiny minority of those who abuse their positions of power..

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  29. @unit472

    The cheap labor lobby will love this. Keep them in legal limbo and we can exploit them with impunity. Working class Americans are best served by deportation. Failing that, naturalization.

    • Replies: @unit472
  30. the raven says:

    I think so – how else will we get the next generation of whites (lol).

    True morality encompasses a love of past and future generations – of our own people (the others have made it clear they hate us, let them work out their own destinies).

  31. Ghana.
    Do not know much about that country.
    Interestingly, I did design the spillway gates for dam in Ghana in 1973.

  32. @Monty Ahwazi

    Hey, Monty and Lloyd, what’d you guys do with my stash?!

    And pay up your thirds of the internet bill, or I’ll change the password on the router again, guys!

  33. fnn says:
    @jacques sheete

    If the moral cesspool known as the USA is so great, then why did the Trumpster feel a need to campaign on a promist to make it great again?

    Because “let’s make it a little better” doesn’t make an inspiring campaign slogan.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  34. @Biff

    Nice work, Biff. Your phones will now be unlocked, your car should start up again at, and the standing order of detention in the principal’s office for your children will cease at end of business today.

    Now, just tell me what’s 2 + 2 and you’re free to leave.

  35. @jacques sheete

    Whatever environmental prolbems the US does have, Mexico-induced ones (per Wayfarer notwithstanding), millions of more people are not helping to make them better. You want sustainability, Jack Squat? I want sustainablility … my Grandmama wants sustainability!

  36. Clyde says:
    @jacques sheete

    Then move to one of Trump’s shithole nations and post from it. You can send postcards too. Somalia is lovely in the spring. So I hear. Haiti too.

  37. About the article itself, I didn’t have as much pessimism as Mr. Derbyshire before, during his long “We are doomed” phase, just because I think there will be a financial crash that will mark the end of the stupidity, Peak Stupidity, if I may. Rough times are coming, but people will have to get real at that point.

    However, now I will say that I don’t share Mr. Derbyshire’s optimism with his numbers showing white people will still have the majority of votes for a long time to come. It’s not like I don’t agree with the erudtite Peter Brimelow’s numbers. However, as a freedom-loving American, I am more concerned with the fact that there will be a large majority of people in this country by a decade from now, that don’t care about, and will never vote for libertarian/conservative American ideas. The country will be dead to me in a number of ways by then.

    Ann Coulter is right – this problem is existential and dragging it on for 10-15 more years may (or may not!) stabilize the population demographics, but the slide toward Socialism will be a done deal.

  38. Jake says:

    “Port-au-Prince, Haiti, is one of the largest cities in the world without a central sewage system.”

    Haiti was the first country to be blessed with a black revolution against the racist whites, and after more than 2 centuries of black rule, Haiti’s capital still lacks anything close to the sewage system Rome had by 300 BC.

    Black revolution, black rule, clearly is the best thing for all humankind!

    That’s the reason we must adore the WASP. The WASP made the Negro Numinous and during Reconstruction made him RULER over a bunch of whites who deserved to be ruled by blacks because they were clearly less than the Numinous Negroes.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  39. America is being forced to commit national suicide via unlimited illegal immigration by Zionist NWO agenda that is day by day killing America by the dilution of patriotic nationalists by outsiders, which leads to chaos and bloodshed.

    No other nation in the world allows unlimited illegal immigration and Trump and the Congress are under the control of Zionist forces that are driving for a NWO ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT that wil make Orwells 1984 seem like a walk in the park.

  40. “As a result of this, our company’s HR department has quietly decided … to no longer hire employees that need sponsorship.”

    Bloody ’bout time. I remember re-writing the “self-documenting” spaghetti-code of the “highly skilled” Indian programmers management had decided to assign to our projects because “Indian programmers are just as good as American programmers at less than half the cost.”

    I’m sure I wasn’t the only American exacerbating the problem by covering for the lack of efficacy of the resources assigned to him; hey, if the project failed, I’d be out of work, but the Indians would move on like locusts to the next project.

  41. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Derb’s propaganda is great. He skips right over the real role of International Aid Organizations who “spend” money. Haiti is really just another US ghetto.

    The stupidity designed to get a rise out of the reader doesn’t stop there. Derb is unable to see a point where inflows are no longer possible or desirable for the world traveler.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  42. @Authenticjazzman

    I was making the point that immigration from Africa to America is already working in a way that suggests it is merit-based i.e. unlike Italy and France where tourist spots are clogged by destitute Senegalese trying to sell toys and replicas of the Eiffel Tower.

    Nigerian-Americans are among the best-educated and highest-earning immigrant groups in the US. The typical Nigerian immigrant has a doctorate in chemical engineering and is off to work in Houston. Anyone who has spent five minutes talking to a Yoruban Nigerian could tell you they are seriously impressive.

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/view/articles/2015-10-13/it-isn-t-just-asian-immigrants-who-excel-in-the-u-s-

    Trump as usual likely does not know this and is determined to permanently lose the votes of any non-white in the US with an IQ over 120.

  43. Rich says:

    I don’t see any change to the US illegal immigration problem. Recently, on a forced weeknight trip to a local mall, I found myself shopping with hordes of Mestizos, each walking 3 to 5 young children as they spent a pleasant evening shopping. This was in the very White Nassau County of Long Island. It’s a done deal, Trump is just window dressing for the elites who think the Hispanics from South of the Border will be more malleable than the old time European American stock. They’re probably right. I can’t help thinking of the drug cartels, kidnappings and crime of Latin America.

  44. Alden says:

    Swiss Public Health Service just discovered that some Africans being treated for TB have a new pathogen that is completely untreatable.

    An African invader in Germany has the same form of untreatable TB

    TB is airborne, like flu.

  45. Alden says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    Why would Whites with IQs over 120 want Nigerians STEM geniuses competing with them

    In accord with ferociously enforced federal laws of affirmative action employers must always always hire a Black over a White.

    Who wants to be laid off or never hired because of Nigerian affirmative action immigration?

  46. @wayfarer

    “How does the vast influx of the rural poor damage the environment? Most people arriving in the city build their own primitive houses on the hills, either in exiting barrios, or in new areas, which quickly attract more migrants and become new barrios in their own right. New barrios have no water, drainage, electricity or other services. Human waste collects in makeshift pools and ditches which outside the rainy season is baked into a soft dust which is then blown by the wind over the whole city.

    An inspection by the DF city government found that nearly all the food on outdoor food stalls contained traces of human faeces. More than 80% of Mexicans eat at an outdoor food stall at least once a day; part of the reason for that is that the poor often have no cooking facilities in their homes. The rich would never dream of eating at a food stall, the poor literally eat shit.

    http://www.marxsite.com/mexico_city.htm

  47. Alden says:
    @wayfarer

    That’s true. Every once in a while the untreated Tijuana Ensenada sewage floats over to San Diego.

    For decades recently arrived Mexicans in California have been treated for Hepatitis. That’s where it comes from

    And why are there so many homeless in America? High unemployment, low wages and high cost of housing all caused by the flood of cheap labor immigrants

  48. wayfarer says:

    America, another one of humanity’s sorrowful “shithole” nations.

    Maybe only a matter time, before poverty comes knocking on your door, too.

    U.S. national debt clock: http://www.usdebtclock.org/

    …..
    …..

    • Replies: @DrW
  49. Alden says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    Who cares if they have a college degree?
    Why should they get an affirmative action job when White Americans are denied jobs because of affirmative action?

    • Replies: @Rosie
  50. DrW says:

    The problem is the baggage that these “outhouse” people bring with them when they come. To put this in terms that will cause the politically-correct crowd to jump up and down in exultation (because of the race/ethnicity of the people who are disparaged): “You can take the white trash out of the outhouse, but you can’t take the outhouse out of the white trash.” (You can make any substitutions you see fit in that sentence…)

  51. Rosie says:
    @Alden

    And what sort of mother would support high IQ immigration that displaces their own children from choice jobs?

    None. Whites don’t have a problem with women, but rather childless women. I’m not sure if they’re selfish because they don’t have children, or if they don’t have children because they’re selfish.

    Either way, mothers and childless women have completely different interests, priorities, and time horizons. The MGtards do us all a disservice by stubbornly refusing to acknowledge this.

    In a healthy society with normal birth rates, even childless women wouldn’t be a problem, because they would have several nieces or nephews to consider. Now many don’t even have that.

    • Replies: @Avery
  52. All that Mr. Derbyshire says about Haiti is true–I once spent a week in the slums of Port au Princ with the US Army—and I could add other horrors I saw. Stopping further immigration is a splendid idea. But I wonder whether Mr. Derbyshire would give us a clear statement of his recommendations for policy toward the tens of millions of legal Latinos and Americans of Latin American descent?

  53. DrW says:
    @wayfarer

    Yes — You are exactly right! There are portions of America that have indeed become “sh*tholes.” These are the places that have been conquered by immigrants from “sh*thole” nations (or descendants of immigrants, sometimes many generations back) from these places.

    While I think that perhaps you were arguing *against* the idea of controlling immigration from these places (based on an incorrect belief that the US is just as bad), you have inadvertently hit the nail on the head — if we wish to keep the rest of the US from being afflicted with “sh*tholitis” as well, we MUST stop immigration from people who are, through culture and practice, acclimated to living in sh*tholes, people who are willing to take whatever environment they live in and transform that environment, however nice, into sh*tholes.

    Now — you will likely call me a “racist” for voicing my concern. *I am nothing of the sort.* If you call me a racist it is only because YOU are making note of a correlation between “shi*thole” culture and “race.” (Does such a correlation exist? I can’t be sure…) While it is true that I would rather live with people who act like Norwegians than people who act like they are from inner city Atlanta, this has to do with BEHAVIOR, not with the color of one’s skin.

    “Sh*thole countries” are sh*thole countries because of the dominant CULTURE in those countries. Inviting in people from those countries is to impact our CULTURE with the baggage they bring with them. I have to agree with Pres. Trump — why in the world would we possibly want to do that?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  54. unit472 says:
    @WorkingClass

    Just so I’m sure you understand what the issue is, the Dreamers are already given green cards so they can apply for any job you or I might want except for a job that requires US citizenship for national security reasons. The issue with the Dreamers is citizenship AND chain migration. They are not going to be deported save those who violate the law because the Democrats won’t allow it. So the issue is keeping them from becoming citizens for as long as possible so the Democrats don’t gain 800,000 new voters who will, once they become citizens, attempt to bring mom and dad and the rest of the clan into the US!

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  55. @jacques sheete

    Cannot see any banking interest in these countries going on the rocks.
    Contrary to popular beliefs, bankers hate wars.
    Enough correspondence exists between them from the second half of the 19th century to show this.
    A relative of mine, who lived for decades in S Africa, never mentioned banking interests.
    Banks have no interest in countries going under in chaos.
    Their investments become worthless.
    The whole centre of Durban is abondoned to blacks.
    Do you think the owners liked this ?
    Same, I suppose in Uganda, where a friend of mine worked in the time of Idi Amin.
    Katanga is, I think, a good example.
    Western interests made the region ‘independent’, so that the Congo mess would not affect the region.
    Last, but not least, let me mention Dutch losses because of we lost what now is Indonesia.
    Those Dutch that were prosperous there, most of them, came back penniless.
    Shares in Dutch companies there, toilet paper.

  56. White women are starting to get it, because, unlike Hollywood producers who bribe, threaten, and hotel-meeting their way into physical intimacy, some of these immigrants go directly to mauling. I was quite attractive when I was younger, but that was some time ago; nevertheless, I’ve had a car full of Somalis follow me across a shopping center parking lot after I refused the ride they offered.
    On the other hand, maybe they just wanted to mug me.

  57. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @DrW

    Why are you using an asterisk for shithole? The Progressive Corporate Wing Inc are broadcasting racism, but they too refuse to use the word shithole matching your own anal retentive behavior.

    I suspect the real shit holes of the world are filled with anal retentive political buffs who spend time masturbating with each other over the meaning of words. Back and forth accusations – racism, culture, immigration while the elite continue to run to the bank laughing all the way.

    • Replies: @DrW
  58. Philandy says:
    @Rosie

    I represent every person, so if you are white or a woman it is supporting that secondary. You are much more important.

  59. @Ingrid B

    Okay so you are a deutsche Besserwisser, and of course a deutcher Besserwisser cannot understand why anyone would want to live in such a disgusting place as the USA, when they could reside in the german social-democratic paradise.

    Germany, a place where each and every resident is required by big-brother to report his/her new address to the local “Meldeamt” , the police registry-office, which constitues the ultimate form of “Überwachung”, except the brainwashed Germans too naive and stupid to realize the philosophical implications of this terrible law, the so-called :Meldepflicht”.

    Stay in Germany we already have enough german “Besserwisser” in the USA.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    • Replies: @Ingrid B
    , @Liza
  60. Conclusion.

    I did analyze what is happening in US for years. The individual groups as Whites, Blacks, Jews, Mexicans are coagulating into compact units. The conflicts among these groups are not only decreasing, but they are increasing with acceleration to point of not return.
    I cannot see other inevitable outcome from this, than civil war, which probably will start even before of fall of dollar. I am predicting the outcome of civil war as catastrophic. All Jews, Blacks, Mexicans will be either deported or killed.

    I will also limit my comments on this site because I do not see to much sense to comment here.

  61. Alfa158 says:
    @jacques sheete

    As far as I know, they no longer take garbage out to sea. The barges are now only taking the treated sludge from sewage treatment plants out to sea. In California the sea floor off the coast drops rapidly into deep canyons so the stuff gets piped out into the canyons. On the east coast the continental shelf drops off more gradually so the sludge has to be barged out to deep water. Years ago I worked on a project that equipped the tugs with securely locked tracking systems that would record the positions at which the barges would dump their loads in order to make sure the tug crews weren’t doing it prematurely to save travel time and cost. Needless to say the crews weren’t too happy to see me.

  62. @Ali Choudhury

    “Trump as usual does not know this”

    Now just htf do you know what Trump knows or does not know?

    This really pisses me off about you leftist BS-talkers : All of you apparently think you are able to read DT’s mind, and all of you, every single one of you “know” precisely what he is thinking, and what he knows or does not know at any given moment.

    And as far as the educational level of Nigerian immigrants is concerned : You are cherry-picking precisely the cases which will back your argument.

    Look I will not succumb to BS which I know is distorted and misconstrued, period.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained uS Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

  63. @Frederick V Reed

    Mr. Reed, please stop with your verbal shell game. Mr. Derb, VDare, I, and almost every commenter here does not have a problem with the already legally immigrated Hispanics (other than affirmative action and other favoritism from Big-Gov). It’s the continuous trail of illegals, their kids, and the large amount of more legal immigration that people want to put a stop to.

    I hope the senora isn’t on-line so you can write freely.

  64. Avery says:
    @Rosie

    {Either way, mothers and childless women have completely different interests, priorities, and time horizons.}

    Well said.
    Very true.

    A German mother politician zinged* childless Merkel with precisely that argument:
    [“I have four children, Merkel has none,” said Petry in an interview with stern.
    “Kids help you see beyond your own periphery. And that’s what Merkel doesn’t do.”]

    If Merkel had children/ grandchildren, I doubt very much she’d want them to grow up in an Islamized Germany under Sharia oppression.

    It’s a vicious cycle: European voter have fewer and fewer children, so they keep electing childless people like Merkel and Macron, whose only time horizon is their own political career. What happens after they are gone, is not their concern.

    ________________________
    *
    [AfD's Petry bashes 'Mutti Merkel' over childlessness]

    https://www.thelocal.de/20160915/petry-bashes-mutti-merkel-over-childlessness

  65. wrd9 says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    You must be referring to these Africans.

    https://www.dallasnews.com/business/health-care/2014/02/15/dallas-area-home-to-huge-health-care-frauds

    https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2014/02/21/largest-medicaid-fraud-bust-in-dc-history-involves-immigrants-from-africa/

    It doesn’t matter if they are educated or not, if they come from a corrupt country, they bring that corrupt culture with them. It’s not just Africans, it’s also Pakistanis, Chinese, Vietnamese, Dominicans, Armenians, Cubans, Russians, etc… The pattern here is corrupt country. We shouldn’t be allowing any of them in.

  66. Okechukwu says:

    Europe invented the shithole concept. Why do you think various plagues nearly wiped them out? It was the unimaginable filth and squalor. Europeans were still dumping human feces out of windows into the 19th century. And of course they never bathed.

    Trump himself is descended from escapees of European shitholes.

  67. Thomm says:
    @Rosie

    Either way, explicit White advocacy is the only solution.

    Maybe. There is no question that BLM, etc. are just hate groups.

    The problem is, white variance is unusually high. The people who advocate for whites are usually our worst representatives (go to a WN gathering if you doubt this).

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  68. Thomm says:
    @unit472

    What acronyms? ‘Tradthot’ is a word that Rosie used first.

    The rest of my content has a lot of texts. Links are used to support the position (WNs tend to be too lazy to do this).

  69. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The finance bloodsuckers own the international shit holes. Made in Haiti. Clueless idiocy, made in the USA. Thanks for the example.

  70. DrW says:
    @Anonymous

    Really — In that argument the thing you find *most* objectionable (or at least the only thing you can think of to possibly argue against) is that use of an asterisk? Does this mean that you accept my premise, my arguments, and my conclusions (as long as I don’t put an asterisk in “sh*ithole”)? This is what I find with liberals — because they are incapable of arguing logic they derail any real logic by going nuts over completely irrelevant issues…

    OK — so let’s say that you are morally superior because you are more comfortable with vulgarity than I am… then what?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  71. David says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    are not only decreasing, but they are increasing

    That’s incredible. Analyze on!

  72. Okechukwu says:
    @Thomm

    There is no question that BLM, etc. are just hate groups.

    To white suprematards like you, every black person is a racist simply by virtue of being alive.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  73. Z-man says:

    Lets get the term right, it’s SHIT HOLE(S)!

  74. @unit472

    Immigration should come to a full stop. No more immigrants legal or otherwise until we get an intelligent immigration policy. Such policy would balance the needs of business and labor, the economy the culture and the immigrants themselves. Fred is talking about the folks who are already here.

    If they are going to stay I prefer that they be citizens. As citizens their employers cannot treat them any worse or pay them any less than native born workers. As citizens what is their incentive to vote with blacks and perverts and self hating whites? I do not agree that immigrants = Democrats.

    I do agree however regarding chain migration. I speak of naturalizing individuals. Not families.

    Go in peace unit472.

  75. @WorkingClass

    Derb is no help in this matter. He has a Chinese wife and offspring. He has stated Asians are superior to whites. https://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/

    He doesn’t list shithole China as a problem. Gee, I wonder why? China sends its refuse population to us.

    http://www.newsweek.com/forget-mexico-us-being-flooded-illegal-drugs-china-652494

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-deportations-exclusive/exclusive-u-s-to-china-take-back-your-undocumented-immigrants-idUSKCN0RB0D020150911

    His Chinese wife and daughter are Obama voters. Derbyshire is the perfect example of a self-hating white.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @AnotherDad
  76. @Ali Choudhury

    Can you imagine a more perfect fit for these gifted African immigrants than working as teachers in the failed public schools systems of Baltimore, Detroit and Philadelphia?

  77. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Cannot see any banking interest in these countries going on the rocks.
    Contrary to popular beliefs, bankers hate wars.

    Not true of all bankers.

    I once asked a proud descendant of bankers who lent money to both the French and British during the Napoleonic wars how they could make money knowing that one side or the other was sure to default. His answer was they actually hoped for default. When the losing side defaults on the loans, they demand concessions. The concessions are worth more than the loan, and the victors will help enforce those demands.

    I think of this every time I hear about privatization of public facilities in countries that are renegotiating their debt.

    At least some bankers are happy to see their clients bankrupt and desperate for more money.

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @jacques sheete
  78. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @wayfarer

    Mexican restaurants seem to have a problem with food poisoning outbreaks. A few years back there was a big Hep A outbreak in NJ, and the source was a Mexican restaurant. Then there was the big e.coli outbreak involving the Chipotle Mexican chain last year. And now this norovirus outbreak in CA, again involving a Mexican restaurant.

    All 3 viruses – Hep A, norovirus and e.coli bacteria could be killed by thoroughly cooking the food to 185F. Mexican restaurants serve their salsa and guacamole raw, and these sides are served with almost every entree. I think this might be why Mexican restaurants are prone to this kind of outbreaks. When serving raw food it is extra important for employees to wash their hands thoroughly with soap, wash the vegetables thoroughly with clean water and wipe down kitchen counters and cutting areas really well.

  79. @Authenticjazzman

    America also had a growing class of blacks who were educated, cultured, upper class and well-dressed until the Brown vs Board of Education decision and subsequent lower court decisions destroyed it, along with an educated, well dressed white culture. With the sad results being it’s practically impossible to distinguish one from the other – pants below their butts and all.

  80. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    How do you know his wife and daughter voted for Obama? Did he say that?

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  81. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @DrW

    This is what I find with liberals — because they are incapable of arguing logic they derail any real logic by going nuts over completely irrelevant issues…

    Right on. Libtards will always immediately launch into name calling, ad hominem attacks, and correcting people’s spelling and grammar. They can’t help themselves. They are small minded mental midgets who don’t understand logic and can’t see the forest for the trees, that’s why they could never come up with cogent arguments to defend their views and always miss the big picture.

  82. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    India is as big if not a bigger shithole than Africa. 800m still defecate out in the open. People who live in slums just poop into plastic bags and throw them out the window. Yet our dumb politicians continue to treat them as best and brightest and keep wanting to up the number of H1b visas available to Indians so we can bring more of these con artists in. Our politicians (on both sides) are the dumbest people alive.

    In fact here’s my definition of a “shithole” country — any country that still has public toilets that are nothing more than a hole in the ground is a shithole country. None should be allowed in from those countries. This would include all 3rd world countries including India and China.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Bliss
    , @denk
    , @denk
  83. @Ali Choudhury

    One of the most striking facts about immigration to the U.S., unbeknownst even to many immigration advocates, is the superior education of Africans coming to this country. If we consider adults age 25 or older, born in Africa and living in the U.S., 41.7 of them have a bachelor’s degree or more, according to 2009 data. For contrast, the native-born population has a bachelor’s degree or more at the much lower rate of only 28.1 percent in these estimates, and foreign-born adults as a whole have a college degree at the rate of 26.8 percent, both well below the African rate.

    So what. Their presence does not make America better for Americans. That is the only criterion.

    But if you want a critique:

    – You’re comparing mostly African immigrant age college grad numbers with the total US population. Most African immigrants came in the last 10 or 15 years. They are much younger in profile than the overall US adult population. And US college attendence has ramped up dramaticaly during my lifetime. The comparison to age matched Americans or age matched white Americans–the people being replaced–would be much more instructive.

    – The standards for an African degree and hence an African college grad a abysmal. They make the mediocrity of current US college education look positively erudite in comparison. (I saw some stats on the IQ of black college students in South Africa a few years back. Appalling–low-mid 90s–dumber than the average white person.)

    – The college degreed African immigrants’ kids will regress toward their African mean. How big? Hard to say. But given their mediocre starting point, while still smarter than average American black, they’ll almost certainly be more mediocre in IQ than typical white American.

    – We are graduating a ton of American millennials from college and they have trouble finding jobs. Or at least finding “college degree” type jobs. Why the heck would we want mostly mediocre–let’s face it, these aren’t STEM geniuses–African college grads taking their jobs? We have–can support–only a limited number of mediocre college grads in suitable positions. Those should go to Americans.

    – If 41.7 of adult African immigrants have a college degree … that means 58.3% do not! Why the heck–given our great success with our African descended population–would we want even *more* Africans who can’t even meet the ho-hum college degree bar as immigrants? These numbers aren’t a great success they are a disaster.

  84. @jilles dykstra

    Contrary to popular beliefs, bankers hate wars.

    That is, until a rival shows up in the form of a competitor. Which explains why the Dutch East India company maintained a standing army and fleet of warships that equaled or exceeded that of any potential interloper.

  85. @fnn

    A campaign slogan that would have better resonated with the average white middle class American would have been – Make America Livable Again.

    • Replies: @Biff
  86. @attilathehen

    His Chinese wife and daughter are Obama voters. Derbyshire is the perfect example of a self-hating white.

    Attilathehen, this is ridiculous. Derbyshire is clearly not a “self-hating” white. He doesn’t seem to be all wrapped up and preening in his whiteness, but he’s clearly happy with it and does not hate it in the slightest.

    The comments that annoy you simply show that Derb is a realist. East Asians do seem to be smarter on average than whites at least in visio-spatial IQ. They definitely seem to have higher levels of “nose to the grindstone”ness. Being compliant working away at stuff–especially repetitive stuff–in a manner that most whites would find boring and tedious. This almost certainly has a genetic component beyond all the cultural stuff.

    On the last bit about his wife being an Obama voter–ok, there i would agree with you. That strikes me as a failure to properly “educate” his wife and get her thinking and voting aligned with the long term interests of his (and her) children/descendants. It strikes me, that he should have explained things, and at some point bent her over and given her a good spanking to help get her mind around the seriousness of the issue. But i’m not married to Mrs. Derbyshire, Derb is. And as wives and marriages are a bit idiosyncratic, it’s both wise and good manners for men to leave it up to other men exactly how they educate their wives.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  87. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @DrW

    Consider the affirmation of nationalism – that the sovereign has the ability to limit or exclude who comes into the country. This nationalism is compatible with the fact that most immigration is economically beneficial to the country. Families with children should generally be let into the US. Tech and other US workers should receive direct subsidies when they are harmed by immigration. The claim is made that the general public won’t support this, but this isn’t completely true. We live in a borderless world already, either we care about Americans or we don’t.

    Incidentally, most of the corporate outlets are refusing to say shithole, this is a tell that they are being dishonest as opposed to misinformed.

  88. @Jake

    Nicely put and dead center.

  89. I am so pleased that Trump used that word in that context. It has opened up the debate about so many important topics, regarding immigration, race differences in behaviour, and speaking the truth no matter how unpleasant. Hopefully more can follow his lead (maybe without the profanity). But the profanity actually helped to open the debate!

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  90. I am so sorry

    Correction

    Conclusion.

    I did analyze what is happening in US for years. The individual groups as Whites, Blacks, Jews, Mexicans are coagulating into compact units. The conflicts among these groups are not
    decreasing, but they are increasing with acceleration to point of not return.
    I cannot see other inevitable outcome from this, than civil war, which probably will start even before of fall of dollar. I am predicting the outcome of civil war as catastrophic. All Jews, Blacks, Mexicans will be either deported or killed.

  91. @Rosie

    Probably best to start your own movement. The alt right makes good point on race realism, immigration, history, free speech and foreign policy, but on sex/gender issues the level of intellectual debate is pretty low-brow and juvenile.

    • Replies: @grapesoda
  92. Thomm says:
    @Okechukwu

    To white suprematards like you, every black person is a racist simply by virtue of being alive.

    LOL! Look through my comment history to see if I am any friend of White Trashionalists.

    I often say that White Trashionalists have Negro IQs, and that they are ‘wiggers’.

  93. Thomm says:
    @Frederick V Reed

    But I wonder whether Mr. Derbyshire would give us a clear statement of his recommendations for policy toward the tens of millions of legal Latinos and Americans of Latin American descent?

    It is simple. Serve in the military for four years, and citizenship is granted.

    Most will go back rather than do this. The ones that do it are welcome.

    But the point is moot when there is no political will to stop illegals. No ‘wall’ will work, as for every 20-foot wall, there is a 21-foot ladder.

  94. Thomm says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    One of the most striking facts about immigration to the U.S., unbeknownst even to many immigration advocates, is the superior education of Africans coming to this country.

    This is very overrated. If you look at the list of US ethnic groups by income (below), you will see that Nigerian and Ghanaian communities only have the income of the average white :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    They are impressive compared to blacks, but not compared to whites. No black African community features in the top 50. Nor is their bench deep.

    Indians and Filipinos, on the other hand, are at the top and numerous. Their outperformance can’t be explained away as ‘only being the elite of their countries’. Many Filipinos are second and third gen. Plus, Asians don’t get affirmative action in elite universities the way African immigrants do (which Derb himself has written about).

    • Replies: @Ali Choudhury
  95. Thomm says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    Nigerian-Americans are among the best-educated and highest-earning immigrant groups in the US.

    Again, false. They only rank #54 :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

    The myth of the ‘Nigerian PhD’ is a filtration of the top 0.001%. There are only a few thousand of them, and they did get massive affirmative action that whites and East/South Asians don’t get.

    Africa produces legitimate STEM PhDs at about the same frequency as whites produce billionaires.

  96. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I will also limit my comments on this site because I do not see to much sense to comment here.

    Good deal.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  97. grapesoda says:
    @unpc downunder

    You should read up on your history. Capitulating to women leads to ruin in every single case, and the ascension of women is in itself a sign of decline, such as in the case of the Roman Empire.

    50% chance you are a privileged white woman who is just pissed cuz conservative men don’t kiss your ass enough. Otherwise you’re just a soft white man who has never struggled in his life and has never studied history or the great ancient civilizations.

    Women will always advocate for women above the overall welfare of society. That’s why they shouldn’t be given power at the higher levels.

    • Agree: Thomm
    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  98. grapesoda says:
    @Rosie

    Yeah probably better if you go off and start your own thing. There is no need for overtly political women within actual conservatism because actual conservatism or traditionalism means women submitting to men, having babies, acting feminine (being submissive, having a pleasant demeanor). This is what has worked throughout history to create and maintain advanced civilizations.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  99. grapesoda says:

    Why do so many females on political websites like to hide the fact that they are female and are really just advocating on behalf of their gender instead of what’s good for the country or mankind in general? I guess their motives would be too obvious if they used a female screen name because most people know, either consciously or unconsciously through experience, that females are always going to advocate for themselves and their own kind above all else.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Rosie
  100. RCON says:

    This comment highlights the entire article for me :

    “the whole country will go the way of California: traditional America, its laws and customs, drowned beneath a tide of aliens.”

    California is still the 6th or 7th economy AMONG NATIONS. If as John suggests it’s because of immigrants, then logically states wanting to emulate that success would follow suit.

    Some of us would say, that’s how REAL AMERICAN values function.

  101. @Peter Johnson

    PJ: You must have read or heard the violent reaction in the MSM regarding Trump’s use of a rather common vulgarity–so common that in moments of consternation it is used by most levels of our society. There can be no debate with the Trump haters because they will use any excuse to belittle, demean or derogate him or his Administration in the hope of bringing it down.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
  102. @Okechukwu

    The connection between filth and infectious diseases was unknown until after the discovery of bacteria in the late 1800s. But unlike present-day Black Africa and Haiti (a microcosm of Black Africa) once White Europeans understood the consequences of their actions they took steps to reform their ways. Which helps explain why the White race is the dominate race, and why if it ever loses it’s dominance the world is doomed to another Dark Age..

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Okechukwu
  103. @Achmed E. Newman

    Thank you!
    I am deliriously happy!
    Finally I do have one admirer here.
    That you are fucken Muslim terrorist piece of shit, I do not mind that a little bit

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  104. unit472 says:
    @Okechukwu

    Then they discovered the reasons for cholera epidemics and invented toilets and sewage treatment plants. Africans just continue to wallow in their filth.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @Realist
  105. anon • Disclaimer says:

    It’s ridiculous for any immigrant to claim their culture is superior or equally as good as that of the WASP culture that forms the backbone of this country. All the non-WASP immigrant groups including Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Orthodox Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Communists are all inferior cultures to the White Protestant culture, that is why they are here.

    Anyone who does not agree that their old culture sucks and refuses to call their old country a shithole should just move the hell back. Until they are ready to denounce the old, they will never fully accept the new. And if they are not ready to accept the new, why the F are they here?

    In fact we need to make this into a green card test. Anyone who wants a green card needs to declare their old country a shithole and denounce all aspects of their old culture including the religion unless it’s Protestant. If they refuse, their green card application is DENIED and they need to go back to the shithole they came from.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  106. @grapesoda

    Women will always advocate for women above the overall welfare of society. That’s why they shouldn’t be given power at the higher levels.

    The exact same thing being true for Blacks and Jews. Which is why our forefathers, in their wisdom barred them from the bench, jury box, and voting booth.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  107. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    It made no sense for you to comment again. Anyway, see you around … maybe at the airport.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  108. @unit472

    I do like your comment.
    But am I wrong when I do say that cholera was spread by flees.

  109. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    un general rights of man/woman/it should have been written by a smarter person

  110. @Achmed E. Newman

    He He
    At least now I did force you to read all my comments.
    Try to read my comment in the article What race Greeks and Romans were.
    The article is in this column close to the bottom. My comment is fourth from the bottom.
    I am curious of your level of understanding.
    I do presume that it is very low.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  111. Thomm says:
    @grapesoda

    Why do so many females on political websites like to hide the fact that they are female and are really just advocating on behalf of their gender instead of what’s good for the country or mankind in general?

    My friend, you really should participate in the Androsphere, which is where far more intelligent men than race nationalists discuss the real reason the West is in decline : Feminism.

    In fact, the Androsphere, with its small-government core philosophy, is the original Alt-Right, before that term was co-opted by White Nationalists, who are really just ‘Paleo-left’ and certainly prone to pedestalizing women. White Nationalism is just a goddess cult devoted to worshiping even the most unworthy females, just for being white.

    Start here :

    http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html/

    http://vivalamanosphere.com/

    If you are already familiar with the ‘red pill’, even better.

  112. “If those countries are not outhouses,” my neighbor said—I’ve bowdlerized slightly—”why should these illegals [I’m just quoting him, the TPS folk are not all illegals] mind going back?”

    This is precisely the point. An outhouse country is one to which, for legal reasons, we are forbidden from deporting its own citizens, because the other citizens of the outhouse country are so terrible that they would infringe the rights of the murderer or rapist that we want to deport.

    The obvious question arises – if the citizens of a country have turned it into an outhouse, why would we want any more of them here? Do we need a bigger underclass than we already have?

    It is no surprise at all that the average guy understands this point, but career politicians and journalists do not.

  113. Realist says:

    “Hannity on the other hand was upbeat. The President, he told us, was totally in control of the situation. He’d just been pretending to defer to reptiles like Diane Feinstein. Actually, he was playing four-dimensional chess.”

    Four dimensional chess?? Forrest Trump couldn’t play tic tac toe

  114. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    Europe invented the shithole concept. Why do you think various plagues nearly wiped them out?

    Funny you should mention. Foreign trade and immigration brought the first of many Plague Ships to Europe.

    The Black Death, they called it. The Ultimate Immigrant.

    We’re still importing third-world pestilence into our previously-advanced nations as fast as we can. So very gratifying to know that this pleases you.

    http://theconversation.com/fast-spreading-killers-how-ebola-compares-with-other-diseases-32944

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Okechukwu
  115. Realist says:
    @unit472

    I do not see one thing of substance blacks have done for humanity.

  116. Eagle Eye says:
    @Ingrid B

    It isn`t as though the US can claim much in the way of superiority. I listened to a report on a pod this morning, about the disgusting way patients without insurance are treated by medical facilities in the US.

    Ah – a podcast! No doubt created by left unmarried PBS “journalists.” What better way could there be to assess reality in a far-away country! If only de Toqueville had been able to listen to podcasts instead of subjecting himself to actual visits to the U.S.!

    Back on Planet Earth, in the United States of America, the uninsured regularly abuse emergency rooms where they receive “free” treatment at massive cost to the operator (often quasi-public bodies). A minor checkup that would cost $150 at a regular clinic could easily run to $1,500 in the emergency rooms where all sorts of bells and whistles (and staff overtime) are always involved. The most productive job Michelle Obama ever did was to arrange for emergency room visitors at a Chicago hospital to be shunted off to private clinics so that they wouldn’t clog real emergency room work.

    Long before the “Obamacare” scam (stealing from working Americans to support the indolent and SEIU workers), there were numerous state and federal programs to provide health coverage for indigent Americans (and even for our 20+ million ilegales).

    BTW, Ingrid, have you ever seen the inside of a hospital operated, e.g. by Moroccans? Somalis? They have very interesting, er, hygienic traditions. Coming to a European country near you!

  117. Realist says:
    @anonymous

    Yes, India is a shithole. The average IQ of India is quite low. But with a population of 1.3 billion there are a number of higher IQ people.And most of those people do anything they can to get out.

    • Replies: @Malla
  118. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    I once asked a proud descendant of bankers who lent money to both the French and British during the Napoleonic wars…

    So you know a blood sucking vampire squid otherwise known as a Rothschild?

  119. @jilles dykstra

    Contrary to popular beliefs, bankers hate wars.

    Only if they’re on the losing side.

    It’s pretty much winner take all, and then some.

  120. @Clyde

    Then move to one of Trump’s shithole nations and post from it. You can send postcards too. Somalia is lovely in the spring. So I hear. Haiti too.

    Ever been to DC? It’s the cloaca of the universe in more ways than one.

  121. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    There are, in my opinion, two reasons for people arguing for large scale immigration:
    - business interests that want to keep wages low, and do not give a damn about the future
    - what in Europe are called ‘Gutmenschen’, ‘gut’ is good, ‘mensch’ can best be translated here by ‘person’, who either think that the west robbed and robs the third world, thus has a moral obligation, or (and) think that the west must prevent poverty all over the world.

    I would contend that the second group is not as altruistic as you make them out to be. They are led by those who promote mass immigration and multiculturalism to dilute white power/unity, so they can feel “safer” and stay on top. Divide and conquer.

    Howard Schultz, CEO of Starbucks, member of the tribe, famously said that the only way for Starbucks to grow its customer base in the US is through mass immigration. He also promised to hire 10,000 refugees to be baristas, ignoring high instances of TB among the refugee community. It’s why I stopped going to Starbucks. He might be running for president in 2020. God help the USA.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  122. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    When someone such as Miss Coulter wants to import her wealthy friends and the best and the brightest from other states who support government programs already to extended to manage effectively — we are in trouble.

    Not sure what you meant by this. Ann Coulter is one of the most vocal opponents of mass immigration, a true patriot.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc
  123. Selvar says:
    @Rosie

    At this point, politically active or intellectual white women who join white nationalism or the Alt Right are like the delusional European Muslim girls who thought that by joining ISIS they would get to be the jihadist version of Lara Croft: no, you are just going to end up a sex slave, or the wife of a high official if you are lucky.

    It’s actually unfortunate because before the manosphere nonsense infected the Alt Right, white nationalists had a much more healthier and balanced view of gender relations. No, it was never a “goddess cult,” but William Luther Pierce was a hardcore national socialist and clearly did not view white women as an enemy population to be controlled. Allot of the older WNs like Greg Johnson still have this view and stand up for white women against so called “white nationalists” who would rather support a muslim middle eastern sex tourist that has credibly been accused of rape.

  124. @anon

    WOW!!! anon, you’ve turned into a race mixer!!! You say we can accept Jews/Muslims/Hindus etc if they denounce their shithole pasts. WOW!!! You said you were German and English Lutheran. I think this is where the problem starts. Germans were not wanted in WASP USA. Being a mischling, you obviously are split. HL Mencken (a full German Lutheran) despised the USA and said he was born in the wrong country. Funny how he never went back to Germany (he could have, he understood German so speaking it would have been easy if he had gone back to Germany). There was a lot of anti-German sentiment during WWI and II. But even that did not bother him. Unless we divide you in two, you would have to go back to Germany. But wait, you said you accept WASP culture (not German or Lutheran) so I guess you’ve assimilated.

    And now you make me look like a Stormfronter. I don’t want Jews/Muslims/Hindus/Asians in the USA. Blacks need to be segregated and marriage to them barred. Jews cannot hold any type of political office in Western countries. Robert Spencer (whom you despised before) is kosher. You said my leaving the RCC was not good enough for the USA.

    My intuition always sensed something odd about your comments. There is something in your life that is not kosher. So this is why you’re singing a new tune.

    • Replies: @nsa
  125. @Hu Mi Yu

    His answer was they actually hoped for default. When the losing side defaults on the loans, they demand concessions. The concessions are worth more than the loan, and the victors will help enforce those demands.

    What jyles doesn’t know is that the banks typically don’t lose. Their “loans” are packaged and sold to subscribers and when the loans go unpaid, the subscribers lose, not the banks.

    It’s a pretty neat trick, and they have several others up their sleeve too, such as reparations, which also wind up being paid in one way or another by the workers and investors of the so called “victorious” countries. (Yes, you read that correctly. The middle class “victors” pay with their blood and money. Only the bankers win.) Simply, the losing country has to borrow money to pay reparations, and the money comes from the middle class of the victors. It’s a really cool trick, quite simple and quite lucrative as well.

    The bankers win and the people lose even if there is no war. All one has to do is look at what happened to Greece recently. There are many more examples throughout history.

    And people wonder why there are so many “shitholes.”

  126. @anonymous

    He used to write for Takimag. I would read his columns and when Mutt Dumney was running he said that would vote for Dumney to cancel out his wife’s vote for Obummer. He said this was a family joke. The joke was on the USA. In an other article at Taki he wrote about his daughter voting for Taki.

    http://takimag.com/article/ballots_and_bullets_john_derbyshire/print#axzz545Xykhkf

  127. @AnotherDad

    “failure to properly “educate” his wife and get her thinking and voting aligned with the long term interests of his (and her) children/descendants…good spanking,” you are just as degenerate and cucked as Derbyshire. He cannot educate or spank this family enough to make them think about the West first. This is because they are Chinese. There is nothing Chinese/Asian about the West. They know they are inferior outsiders.

    The only smart Asians are the Japanese. And they are inferior to Caucasians. Asians are notorious cheats when it comes to tests. They can only copy, not create. I posted articles where Derbyshire states Asians are smarter than whites. You are just as self-hating as he is. Or, maybe, there is some Asianess in your life?

    His choice of a Chinese wife is a perfect example of his degeneracy. Such as Prince Harry getting engaged to the negress Markle. That he could not find a suitable Caucasian woman is beyond the pale. He imported himself to the USA and then imported a seditious Asian, and had troubled offspring. Derbyshire is the problem. Any Caucasian man with an Asian/black wife must be segregated from the Caucasian world or even better deported.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
    , @Anonymous
  128. @Thomm

    Thanks for the comment, that was informative.

  129. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    How do you foresee a Mexican MAJORITY in California, Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico being deported by the non-Mexican minority?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  130. @Frederick V Reed

    Hey Fred, I see you’re at it again!

    Conflating legal U.S. citizens of Spanish descent with illegal immigrants.

    There’s no connection between the two. None.

    I see what you’re trying to do here–concoct an imagined White Supremacist pogrom against anyone with brown skin who says things like “I blow your brines out.” (You remember that line don’t you; you use it over and over again).

    My suggestion to you is to keep trying. One of these days, your clumsy, ham-handed amnesty rhetoric may actually have an impact. But I doubt it.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  131. @Simply Simon

    Look at the bright side. We now, as of this moment, have an army of liberal wanks proclaiming “America is a shithole” on every website known to man. Even some guy named Jacques Sheete is doing it here. This is highly valuable, for it exposes them as the filthy traitors we always knew they were. (I assume Jacques is ‘Murcan, but if not, to hell with him anyway).

    Trump is a genius. He gets liberals to out themselves for everyone to see. He did it in 2016 when his MAGA slogan prompted them to scream “America was never great!” Now with one offhand remark, he’s got them sobbing on television and defending the government of Haiti. I don’t think you can overstate the value in this. I think the mid-term elections are already in the bag.

  132. Thomm says:
    @Bragadocious

    Conflating legal U.S. citizens of Spanish descent with illegal immigrants.

    There’s no connection between the two. None.

    Keep in mind that now that Ron Unz has found Fred Reed, Ron Unz does not have to do this dirty work himself.

    The long-term master plan of Ron Unz was to destroy WN from within, by :
    a) Starting a site to bring a few known authors together.
    b) Establish trust for a few years.
    c) Start normalizing illegals by pointing out that Hispanic crime is lower than black crime (which does not mean Hispanic crime is low in absolute terms), and then normalize illegals in a boil-the-frog way.

    Now that Fred Reed is doing some of the normalization, the typical WN cannot connect the dots to Ron Unz, enabling Ron Unz to proceed to even further steps of his multi-year master plan.

    For the record :
    a) I am very against illegals, but have nothing against legal Hispanics.
    b) I dislike WNs, as they are unusually bad representatives for the rest of us white people.

    • Replies: @Selvar
    , @Bragadocious
    , @Truth
  133. nsa says:
    @attilathehen

    Mencken was banned from writing during both WW1 and WW2, and even accused of being an agent of the Kaiser. He, along with Henry Ford, tried to prevent WW1 but both were overpowered by the ruling anglophiles and conniving jooies. If Mencken were around now, he would simply be banned for hate speech and never heard from at all.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  134. Then WHYWHYWHY are their countries total shitholes?!? If they are such smart and hardworking people, then they NEED to go home and fix their OWN country and people!! Why do WE want any of them coming here?!

    They’ve benefited much by living in a working (WHITE) country, seen HOW to do it and, all-too-often have benefited from welfare, education roads, and everything else our taxes pay for… Enough benefiting on OUR dime(s) (actually our millions and millions of dollars!) — pay us back by LEAVING!

    They must go back!

  135. Selvar says:
    @Thomm

    I like Unz and this site, but I still find it surreal and more than a little hilarious that a pro-immigration Jew is running one of the major intellectual outlets of the Alt Right/HBD. Do the rabid anti-Semites and White Nationalists who comment here know about Unz’s ethic background and just ignore it, or are they blissfully ignorant?

  136. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I am curious of your level of understanding.
    I do presume that it is very low.

    Yes, very low indeed. Once you get better at English it’ll be easier for me.

    (BTW, I will read your Greeks & Romans comment later on – I need to write a couple of blog posts. Good evening, or whatever the heck time it is in your part of the world.)

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  137. @RadicalCenter

    Massacre a couple of hundred and the rest will run.
    But it has to be done in context of previous victories.

  138. Rosie says:
    @grapesoda

    I assure you I have other things to do, but when the movement starts going on about how I need to be raped, have my clitoris removed, etc, I feel compelled to get involved. If that makes me unfeminine, so be it. If you don’t want women involved in politics, I suggest you convince the men to stop attacking us.

    Women are not submissive to men in the way you envision and never have been. Nor would men like it if we were. I bark orders all the time at my house. I’m the only one who knows what needs to be done, and I have too many children to do it all myself.

    You’re not married are you?

  139. Hay all that is good but what about the huge number of the dot people landing in here? Trump just caved in on H1B! It just sucks

  140. Thomm says:
    @Selvar

    I like Unz and this site, but I still find it surreal and more than a little hilarious that a pro-immigration Jew is running one of the major intellectual outlets of the Alt Right/HBD. Do the rabid anti-Semites and White Nationalists who comment here know about Unz’s ethic background and just ignore it, or are they blissfully ignorant?

    It is quite hilarious. Particularly when 99% of the accusations they level against Jews are completely unfounded, yet they use a site that is a rare example of a ‘Divide and Conquer’ Jew successfully making WNs chase their own tails.

    As far as their awareness vs. blissful ignorance, remember that the typical WN has a very low IQ. Ron Unz, knowing this, occasionally tests if he can push the boundaries (such as with his attempt to normalize illegal immigration just because Hispanics have lower crime rates than blacks). When pushback arises, he pauses, evaluates the nature and amplitude of the pushback, and then finds another person (Fred Reed, in this case), to push the same, while Unz goes back and pretends he is working on software engineering or something (what products has Ron Unz released in the last decade, despite the massive boom in the tech sector)?

    Since I oppose contemporary WN (which is heavily comprised of losers), I actually am rooting for Ron Unz to succeed. But he is so unaccustomed to someone seeing his covert plan, that he attacks me in strange ways (he says my English is bad, that I am a ‘Hindu Indian’, and outright denies that Irish-Americans ever faced extreme racism in 19th century America).

  141. @attilathehen

    Hahahahaha

    Ever seen how tough the math tests for adolescents are in Singapore and China is? Compared to that ours looks like a frat party!

    You are so doped onto your false pride that I think even when those east Asians have almost surpassed us technically and are quite likely to overtake the US in technological prowess (even with our tech industry and the tech departments of our most leading universities being almost over-represented by Asians and a good smattering of Indians) within our lifetimes, you still seem to be calling them technically inferior! East Indians are at times good at faking their resumes but the east Asians! They really are quite superb! Unlike the East Indians who have a sense of false superiority, they are usually humble as well!

    Such hubris is sure to accelerate that process even further!

  142. @jilles dykstra

    There are other reasons as well, but the 3rd and major reason for large scale immigration lies in the fact that Zionist have arrived at the ultimate solution for destroying the European White race which is submerging it beneath a sea of dark skinned, low IQ immigrants from Africa and the Middle East. Russia appears to be the only hope of survival of the White race.

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
  143. Rosie says:
    @grapesoda

    I have been criticized for using female screen names, on the basis that I’m looking for “special treatment.”

    White men and women with children don’t have any legitimate conflicts of interest.

    If you disagree, go ahead and name one.

  144. Rosie says:
    @Carroll Price

    It is not possible for women to advocate for women. Women do not have common interests.

    Working women have an interest in affirmative action in favor of women. Married stay-at-home-moms (like me) have exactly the opposite interest. Working women who earn high incomes have an interest in no-fault divorce. No-fault divorce is terrible for stay-at-home-moms, or lower-income Moms. That’s why Marcia Pappas of NOW opposed the recent enactment of no-fault divorce in New York.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/now-nys-no-fault-divorce-vote-threw-women-bus-blog-entry-1.1679033

    Men also have conflicts of interest based on wealth. No-fault divorce is great for wealthy men with grown children who wish to trade in their aging wives for a younger model, bad for men who want to be involved with their young children.

    I suppose all women have a common interest in protection from domestic violence, but then you shouldn’t be beating your wife anyway.

  145. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    What in God’s name are you blathering about?

  146. Biff says:
    @wayfarer

    I surfed San Diego beaches, for over forty years. In my experience, Imperial Beach has always had problems with continuously recurring raw sewage spills flowing north out of Tijuana, Mexico.

    Ocean currents in that part of the world flow from north to south.

    • Replies: @wayfarer
    , @wayfarer
  147. I do not understand why Trump doesn’t hit the Pelosi birch with “I know how I made my money but I have no clue how a government type who’s never been paid more than $299k is worth two hundred million”

    • Replies: @Truth
  148. TBH, I doubt Trump’s alleged s***hole remark was made after doing due diligence on the sanitation conditions of the countries he had in mind. The author may be unwittingly giving more credit to Trump than is due. His ignorance of foreign countries is an open secret. The more likely explanation is his now indisputable bigoted stance on non-Caucasian cultures. That Norwegians should be encouraged to migrate to the US instead further confirms his prejudices. Suffice it to say that some Norwegians responded that they had no desire to migrate to a s***hole country. His campaign characterization of Mexicans and Latin Americans using blanket stereotypical terms aptly demonstrated his ignorance and his prejudices. Noteworthy though, was his statement during a meeting with a number of African heads of state — many of them hardly models of democracy and respect for human rights — that Africa made many of his (Trump’s) friends very rich. American investors are therefore willing to ignore the stench and health risks in s***hole countries as long as they can access Africa’s wealth on the cheap. This is not to mention the presence of US military personnel as “advisers” under the umbrella of AFCOM (look it up) and the usual pretext of America’s War on Terror. They too would be immune to the stench in these countries.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  149. @Thomm

    Wait a second. If this is Unz’s grand scheme, why is Derbyshire writing here? Sailer? Mercer? Kevin MacDonald? Maybe his grand plan is to torpedo his own plan. That would be a mind-blower, huh?

    Maybe the explanation is a little more prosaic. Perhaps Unz likes a free exchange of ideas and isn’t threatened by disagreement. But yeah, that Fred Reed guy is a waste of oxygen.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  150. map says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    They should just stay in Nigeria and make their own country great.

  151. Biff says:
    @Carroll Price

    Which helps explain why the White race is the dominate race, and why if it ever loses it’s dominance the world is doomed to another Dark Age..

    The world is just fine, since nature is self-correcting. The humans will have their time here, but like all things, it will pass.

  152. Che Guava says:

    Last year I saw a satellite image of the island (Hispaniola, IIRC) which is half Haiti (west) and half Dominica (east). The contrast is so stark, Dominica is green, Haiti is a wasteland of mud, denuded land, and doubtless, faesces. I followed that viewing up with aerial shots of the border.

    It is so sharp! Since Dominican Republic is having the same natural disasters as Haiti, the only explanation for the difference is the people and polity of Haiti.

    I am recommending that fellow Unzers who have not viewed it, look and see. Cannot thinking of another place in the world where a political-racial boundary is making such a difference to the environment.

    No wonder the Dominican Republic is so enthusiastic for keeping Haitians out and deporting them!

    Meant to posting this last night, fell asleep, so not many will reading it now.

  153. Biff says:
    @Anonymous

    From your link:

    It may never be possible to identify the point of origin of the fourteenth-century plague with any precision.

  154. Thomm says:
    @Bragadocious

    If this is Unz’s grand scheme, why is Derbyshire writing here? Sailer?

    I am sure you are familiar with the story of the Trojan Horse. Or perhaps the advantages of gaining audience trust for a lengthy period so as to create a ‘boil the frog’ effect. The recruited contributors are just passengers who are happy to have an outlet, and lend authenticity.

    What gave it away was when Ron Unz started to normalize illegals by focusing on their ethnicity rather than their legality, and then pointing out how places improve when Hispanics displace blacks due to their lower crime rate, as if a) people didn’t already know that, and b) that somehow excuses violation of immigration laws.

    But I have to admire how skillfully he has lured WNs into disarray despite the facts WNs think they are able to sniff out this sort of scheme from a particular group. Frankly, no one is making a bigger mockery of WNs than Ron Unz.

    • Agree: Truth
    • Replies: @utu
    , @Truth
  155. @HogHappenin

    You have yellow fever AIDS.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  156. @nsa

    Mencken opposed the wars because he was German and didn’t want his countrymen killed. Ford did not like Jews and did not want WASP USA involved in European problems. The blame though falls on the Freemasons (ie Churchill), the Zioevangizers (USA Zios were instrumental in helping Israel get started in the early 1900s) and the RCC. The RCC as usual was useless in keeping the peace in Europe. Look at cuck pope Frannie and his support of the black/Muslim/Asian invasion.

    Mencken would not be banned today because of the internet.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  157. @Justsaying

    Latin America is heterogeneous. The Caucasian/European peoples vary from country to country so each country needs to be looked at. For example, Brazil is now 55% black (from light to dark skinned) and has collapsed. Most of the Brazilian whites live in the south. Argentina is over 90% white and is very racist against blacks. Chile/Uruguay/Paraguay are European/Caucasian/Indian countries. Venezuela is 80% nonwhite. Columbia has a large black population. Only the Caucasians from Latin America have any value and can come to the USA. Mexico has a 20% European/Caucasian (high-caste Euromestizo) group that runs the country. The 80% are low IQ Indians. White Mexicans like Vicente Fox and Jorge Ramos are furious at Trump because now that he is expelling the illegals and will build the wall, they will have to deal with these people.

    Countries will always trade with one another. Africans exploit each other. That’s their nature.

    • Replies: @Justsaying
  158. Biff says:
    @Carroll Price

    A campaign slogan that would have better resonated with the average white middle class American would have been – Make America Livable Again.

    I get kick out of people like you, and your delusions, thinking you, and your average white middle class brethren have any skin in the game. America is “owned” from one end to the next, and the owners have got your number. You will slave for them, or they will take what little you have.
    They’ve got a giant segment of the population duped into believing they live in a democracy, and some of them are just dumb enough to waste their time voting.
    The owners throw the elected(owned prostitutes) officials a bone now and then, but that’s all they get. If there ever was a corporate house negro, Obama, and the rest of them are it, and Trump has had his dumb ass neoconed from day one.
    America is like a religion – you are required to “believe”, because the reality is absent of any kind of deity.
    If only, Americans could get the kind of understanding of how the owners think of them – contemptuous at best – needed for certain tasks, but expendable if required – basically, not well liked. Akin to a dirty, smelly employee that keeps showing up as not to get fired.
    Enjoy your freedumb.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  159. Bliss says:
    @anonymous

    India is as big if not a bigger shithole than Africa.

    True dat. And it is not helpful to the suffering masses of Africa and the Indian Subcontinent to pretend that their political leaders aren’t corrupt, callous and utterly incompetent. They deserve to be shamed and humiliated by the international community.

    Full credit to Trump for telling it like it is.

  160. @attilathehen

    I am at a loss to adequately respond to your White supremacist drivel, if only because you skirted the substantive aspects of my post. My premise at the outset was that I doubted if Trump had made that remark after due diligence on the sanitary conditions of the s***hole countries. The article makes much of this issue. If Trump had indeed done his homework, then he would easily discover that India, with an estimated 500 million people practicing open defecation, (please google “why millions defecate in the open in India”) would take the cake as far as s***hole contries go. My point, though unlikely to cure your selective semi-literacy, is that sanitary conditions must not have crossed Trump’s mind when he targeted African countries and Haiti. It was knee jerk racism.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  161. @Selvar

    Why do you suppose they (“we” – I’m not strictly a WN, but certainly an “anti-semite”) should care about Unz’s background? If a platform’s available, use it.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  162. Friday finds me in an unusually buoyant mood about the immigration outlook—long term.

    Friday finds me in an unusually buoyant mood about closing the barn door after the horse has bolted.

  163. @Ali Choudhury

    A degree from Outhouse University? No thanks. Black isn’t white, mate.

  164. Ingrid B says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    @authenticjazzman, why do you assune that I am German? Were I German, I would not be taking part in the US`s endless war of terror. The mighty? US, which was responsible for thousands, perhaps millions of deaths of innocent German men, women, and children, and the barbaric starvation of German POW`s after WW2 was over..

  165. @Clyde

    Clyde, you wanna see inside the world’s biggest, most fetid, rotten shithole?

    • Replies: @denk
  166. @Ingrid B

    @authenticjazzman, why do you assune that I am German?

    Ingrid, who are we to question genius? ;)

  167. @attilathehen

    Mencken opposed the wars because he was German…

    Source, please.

    …and didn’t want his countrymen killed.

    So, what’s wrong with not wanting one’s countrymen killed?

    If I remember correctly, many Americans at the time felt the same way. Mencken was an American, and he figured out the war scam even before Smedley Butler did.

    Bottom line: Mencken was correct.

  168. @Biff

    If only, Americans could get the kind of understanding of how the owners think of them – contemptuous at best – needed for certain tasks, but expendable if required – …

    They were even labeled “deplorable” to their faces and they still don’t get it. Apparently the narcissistic infants don’t even want to get it.

    Deplorable dumb goyim they are.

  169. denk says:
    @jacques sheete

    lol !

    What’d you call some place where the residents are kept in the dark and fed bullshit all day long ?

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Malla
  170. @Ingrid B

    Many Germans do object.
    Yet it is asserted that Germany is fighting in nineteen countries, alas they are not specified.
    But there is Afghanistan, Syria/Iraq, Mali.
    And a sizable German airbase in Turkey.

    • Replies: @Ingrid B
  171. @anonymous

    http://theduran.com/european-commissioner-for-migration-tells-eu-citizens-to-just-adapt-to-mass-migration/

    Maybe the christian god will save european civilisation, the catholic E European countries refuse immigrants.
    In order to be able to do so they must leave the EU, after the immigrants have been naturalized they are citizens of the country that gave them a passport, and can settle anywhere in the EU.
    Brussels is putting a lot of pressure on Poland, the country introduced laws Brussels does not want.
    Tusk warned that when Poland becomes a net payer, that is, it pays more to Brussels than it gets back from Brussels, it may leave the EU.
    I hope it does.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  172. @anonymous

    She is. But she she does advocate for taking the best from other countries, especially GB. I am a huge fan of the Brits. Huge fan of the UK. I am fully aware that who we are as a nation is largely due to Great Britain, and then the French. But the colonies were British and hence our ancestors socially and politically. I am such a fan of the Brits that in looking at their investment and relationship with the colonies, I tend to shrug at all of the hoopla about revolution and my scriptural leanings tell me the entire affair out of bounds and hardly endorsed by God. Winning is not by definition an act of God.

    But I stray — I have support an end to nearly all immigration from anywhere by anyone, period. for as period of five years, until we over haul our immigration policy. I think the US citizen should come first in every way and that includes the very worst of us. So no pandering to wealthy smart foreigners of any brand for the time being -0- save for rare circumstances.

    Let’s take one of favorites — God save the queen –

    Even the most conservative of them is hardly conservative, at least not any longer. So their advocacy is going to be socialist by nature. Now Great Britain’s evolution as an island state forced on many occasions by crisis to band together, along with a relatively small population makes how they govern a fine mix for them. That is just not the case in the US. One of the most damaging turns the US is experiencing is one of the decay of socio-political identity. That is not just coming from supposed importation of non-degreed immigrants. Foreign intellectuals are eroding the very foundations of US social polity. In fact, it might even be that they represent the worst immigrants, because they immediately are introduced as a kind of celebrity and immediately impact the factors of power:

    finance, foreign policy, industry high tech and otherwise, mass media, entertainment, numerous think tanks, and social business entities and of course our educational system — where they influence millions of young minds.

    Make no mistake —- poor as I am no one has a thing for Miss Coulter, more than — in a different world, we be married with children. She’s funny, a keen analytical mind, brave, and has come to much better place of her self as political force of influence, not just entertaining and an attack dog. The one issue she has spot on correct is immigration. Most importantly her grasp of the legal implications and the clear abuses of the Constitution. She has my full support,m aside that slight difference, mentioned.

    Note: she is not always correct. Her advocacy for Iraq and Afghanistan were surprising and I am troubled by her inability to accept she was wrong and her status influenced many to support a very damaging policy. One that has seriously jeopardized the credibility of conservatives, especially people of faith.

    Excuse my long winded response. It’s been a while since i have taken the time to reference Miss Coulter. I don’t always agree — but I certainly appreciate her —I probably blew my chance to invite her to lunch years ago at CPAC . . . sigh.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  173. wrd9 says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    You must be referring to these stellar Africans.

    https://www.dallasnews.com/business/health-care/2014/02/15/dallas-area-home-to-huge-health-care-frauds

    https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2014/02/21/largest-medicaid-fraud-bust-in-dc-history-involves-immigrants-from-africa/

    https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/state-department-possibly-tens-of-thousands-of-somalis-in-the-us-illegally/

    https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2014/04/09/maine-the-go-to-state-for-immigrant-marriage-fraud-etc-etc-etc/

    It doesn’t matter if they are educated or not, if they come from a corrupt country, they bring that corrupt culture with them. It’s not just Africans, it’s also Pakistanis, Chinese, Vietnamese, Dominicans, Armenians, Cubans, Russians, etc… Too many of them commit frauds of all sorts. The pattern here is corrupt country. We shouldn’t be allowing any of them in unless they are a certified genius inventor/researcher. There is also a problem with brain drain as well. The more the educated leave, the worse the country becomes which leads to more illegal immigration.

  174. @jilles dykstra

    http://politiek.tpo.nl/2018/01/13/drie-jaar-charlie-hebdo-frankrijk-verdeeld-tot-op-bot/

    Open the link, and look at the picture.
    Title of the link ‘France divided to the bone’.
    More and more people expect a bloody civil war in France.
    If this happens, with five million Muslims in France, what will happen in Germany, with ten million with a migration background ?

  175. @Achmed E. Newman

    Please do not be upset. I was just kidding. But please read my comment there.

  176. wayfarer says:
    @Biff

    Not when huge southern hemisphere ground swells are hitting.

    I almost drown one day at Trestles (Lowers) dropping into the first wave of a set (25-foot-faces), with occasional rogue waves. Didn’t make the drop, and without a leash, lost my board.

    Behind the first wave were about eight or ten more. As a swift parallel current swept me down the beach from south-to-north, keeping me stuck in an unforgiving impact zone.

    That wasn’t the first time I almost drown, and certainly not the last. Mother nature doesn’t offer time outs, referees, or an option of throwing in the towel.

    It’s hold your breath for as long as you possibly can along with swimming for your life, or die.

    example: On youtube watch, “Code Red” Surfing Goes Huge at Teahupoo Tahiti.”
    example: http://www.surfline.com/surf-news/giant-southern-hemisphere-swell-lights-up-entire-west-coast-1_59237

  177. @EliteCommInc

    Miss Coulter started as a gossip girl, She was persistent and so she is now authority and she is now on pedestal. But she is O.K.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  178. I am just glad that President Trump is bringing up this issue. Not a single of the other 16 Repuke candidates would have brought up this immigration issue at all. Trump notices that the influx of immigrants from Third World Hell-Holes is damaging America. What is really going on is that we are being genocided; Genocide by ethnic dilution. All forms of soft genocide have been and are being conducted in this country. https://www.academia.edu/34936383/The_Many_Forms_of_Genocide_Hard_and_Soft._3nd_Rev

  179. wayfarer says:
    @Biff

    The point is that Pacific Ocean storms can push water along the California coast from the south, south-west, west, north-west, north, or any combination of these various directions.

  180. @Justsaying

    I speak Spanish and German. I have been to Latin America. Many parts of Latin America are shitholes. Haiti is a shithole. Cuba, Puerto Rico are shitholes. Blacks/Asians have the lowest IQs and consistently produce shitholes. Latin America has a white, European, Caucasian identity. Blacks are at the bottom. Have you been to Latin America? Do you speak Spanish? Do you know any Latin Americans?

  181. @Ingrid B

    ” Authenticjazzman, why do you assume that I am German?”

    Very simple : You think and express yourself as a German “Besserwisser”. (German know-it-all)

    And as far as the millions of “Innocent” German fatalities : Of course the Germans themselves had nothing to do with these tragic fatalities.

    The Americans simply for the fun of it, went over there and started to kill millions of innocent Germans
    just to have something to do.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz artist.

  182. @jacques sheete

    Of course, Mencken was right about WWI and not wanting the USA to enter the war. Many Americans were opposed to entering the war. We have Woodrow Wilson to blame for this. But Mencken did not like WASPs, but neither did he return to Germany.

    http://www.ww1-centennial.org/dissent-was-not-unpatriotic/

    I believe you don’t want the Jews in the West. I think I asked you where we should put them. You never answered me.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @jacques sheete
  183. @denk

    What’d you call some place where the residents are kept in the dark and fed bullshit all day long ?

    I know what I’d call it, but I’d be more interested in what Clyde and his ilk call it. I gave them a clue and they can see it even without a proctoscope.

    I bet they still won’t get it.

    • Replies: @denk
  184. KenH says:

    The other night I was channel surfing and ABC had a short segment on DACA kids working super duper hard in a hospital, presumably caring for those foul, racist and mean spirited white people who don’t want to become a minority in their own nation. The DACA recipients told the interviewer that the vast majority of nations would be happy to have them. So I was thinking “Well, go back to Mexico….Fred Reed and Vincente Fox Quesadilla would love to have you.”

    Too bad we don’t have immigrant and refugee ebay where we can sell DACA “kids” and other illegal immigrants and “refugees” to the nation who bids highest. We’re told that their presence is invaluable to the USA, but somehow I don’t think there would be any takers except from sex traffickers for the prettiest girls and boys. China and Japan would be impervious to guilt tripping, partly because they aren’t sentimental Christians, and the SJW/do gooder mentality is totally foreign to them so they won’t be bidding.

    • Replies: @denk
  185. @jacques sheete

    Mencken was an American, and he figured out the war scam even before Smedley Butler did.

    And very vocal regarding the over-sized role that Jews and organized religion played in promoting wars. Resulting in him being despised by an Establishment who today would never allow him to serve as editor of a nationally recognized newspaper like the Baltimore Sun. Like all true intellectuals (then and now) Mencken understood the connection between false patriotism, false religion and wars, while recognizing also that without war to sustain them, the other two would not exist.

  186. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Miss Coulter has come a long way in the past few years. It’s entirely possible that with time and maturity she will become a real pain-in-the-ass of the Establishment – both left and right alike. When and if that happens, she’ll have my respect and admiration.

    • Replies: @Truth
  187. utu says:
    @attilathehen

    but neither did he return to Germany

    Q: If you find so much that is unworthy of reverence in the United States, then why do you live here?
    A: Why do men go to zoos?

  188. utu says:
    @Thomm

    he says [...] that I am a ‘Hindu Indian’

    I agree with Ron Unz. You ain’t European. You ain’t White. No white European can spout so much hate against white Europeans and at the same time idolize East Asia Indians as you did here on this site.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  189. Thomm says:
    @utu

    No white European can spout so much hate against white Europeans

    False. I have routinely said that white people are the best people, we just need to get rid of the bottom 20% that represents a concentration all the genetic garbage (the men of this group are WN losers like you, the women are the fat bluehaired feminists). Then the other 80% (that I am in) is free of this burden.

    I have been clear about this, but since you have only a Negro IQ, you are incapable of understanding even the most minimal nuance in a person’s position. That is why you have no more in common with successful whites than a pygmy in the Congo has with Usain Bolt’s athletic abilities or Thomas Sowell’s intellect.

    White people are the best people. The unusually high variance within whites leads to the top whites who excel at everything, but a bottom tier that has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. A WN wigger like utu belongs to this bottom tier.

    • Replies: @Alden
  190. FLgeezer says:
    @Carroll Price

    >Russia appears to be the only hope of survival for the white race.

    Agreed. And what have the Zionists been doing the last decade but promoting war between Russia and the United States. That will be the expeditious way for them to be rid of we pesky WN’s. Nuclear war; who cares?

  191. Okechukwu says:
    @Carroll Price

    The connection between filth and infectious diseases was unknown until after the discovery of bacteria in the late 1800s.

    Oh, really? Maybe staying clean is a matter of commonsense and intelligence. Hell, Columbus’ crew were shocked to see Indians bathing regularly, as that was unheard of in Europe. All sentient humans (apparently with the exception of Europeans) knew instinctively that dirty things were unhealthy, that dirty things stink and produced deleterious impacts on health. Everybody was horrified upon contact with Europeans at their filth and stench, from Africans to Japanese.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  192. @attilathehen

    I believe you don’t want the Jews in the West. …

    What makes you believe that?

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  193. Okechukwu says:
    @Anonymous

    Funny you should mention. Foreign trade and immigration brought the first of many Plague Ships to Europe.

    Haha. Sure thing pal.

    1665 had experienced a very hot summer. London’s population had continued to grow and many lived in squalor and poverty. The only way people had to get rid of rubbish was to throw it out into the streets. This would include normal household waste as well as human waste. As a result, London was filthy. But this was a perfect breeding place for rats. A popular belief during the plague was that the disease was caused by dogs and cats. This was not so. The plague was caused by disease-carrying fleas carried on the bodies of rats. A pair of rats in the perfect environment could breed many off-spring. The filth found in the streets of London provided the perfect environment for rats.

    https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/stuart-england/the-plague-of-1665/

  194. @Okechukwu

    Come on! Please!

    Romans built bathhouses with circulating warm water long before birth of Christ.
    Romans also invented soap.

  195. Okechukwu says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Romans built bathhouses with circulating warm water long before birth of Christ.

    Is this a serious statement? The Ancient Romans weren’t exactly Europeans. Europeans were the barbarian savages the Romans were trying to civilize, remember?

    Romans also invented soap.

    Nope, the Ancient Egyptians invented soap. They were another clean people who had hygiene practices 5000 years ago that Europeans would only “discover” about 100 years ago.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Malla
  196. @Okechukwu

    The ancient Egyptians were Caucasians, not black.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Okechukwu
  197. @silviosilver

    OK, you’re an anti-semite. Where should we put the Jews?

  198. @jacques sheete

    From comments we exchanged for another article.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  199. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I would say up until the early 20th century, everybody smelled pretty bad. With the introduction of indoor plumbing and then deodorant, smelliness went down a great deal. The smelly episodes we may deal with occasionally today are nothing compared to what are ancestors dealt with.

  200. @Selvar

    Yes, it is pretty funny. But the problem is that the rabid anti-semites and WNs don’t let people comment on their websites. I’ve asked anti-semites on this website where should we put the Jews and they don’t respond. Nobody likes the Jews and they don’t want them in their countries, but they won’t support Israel. This is nutty. When you deal with the RCCrs/Zioevangizers they go nuts too. I left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. There’s an RCC convert, Ann Barnhardt, who has an interesting trad RCC website. She has good youtubes about economics and she knows traditional RCC theology. But she’s a religious fanatic who cannot accept the fact that Christianity cannot help people with low IQs. I don’t know if she realizes that the majority of RCCers are now Asian/black. She had a podcast this week where she talked about how nothing could get her to go to Africa or Asia because of the backwardness of the areas. Yet, the College of Cardinals is now more than 50% black/Asian, the RCC believes Africa will save the RCC and the next pope will be black/Asian. The papacy has to be moved to the Philippines or the Congo.

    There’s this American Orthodox Christian guy named Jay Dyer who has a website, Jaysanalysis, who believes the world’s problems are spiritual. He doesn’t want to deal with the IQ issue which is tied to race. I know the Bible says that humans are made in God’s image, but this doesn’t say much for His image when you look at blacks/Asians. Morality is directly tied to IQ. The lower the IQ the more immorality. Of course people with IQs of 90+ will still commit crimes and cause problems, we are frail humans, but not at the same rate of blacks/Asians.

    Then you have the people who believe in aliens from outer space and that they will come to the earth to save us. I do believe in God and I am a Christian so I look at this alien stuff from 2 perspectives. If I look at it from an evolutionary perspective, the ultimate God, grand Architect, could have created beings on other planets with varying intelligence. So maybe some smarter aliens have already visited us, didn’t like what they saw and went back to their planet to tell their fellow aliens that the planet earth is a shithole. Maybe there are aliens on other planets who cannot come to the earth because they have low IQs. If I look at aliens from a Christian perspective, these beings people claim to see would be demons, evil angels. And then I have to ask why would God create blacks/Asians and think that 3 different races would get along. What “possessed” God to do such things? No one wants to deal with these questions/issues. Unz Review is good place to throw out stuff like this and make people think.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  201. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Romans built bathhouses with circulating warm water long before birth of Christ.
    Romans also invented soap.

    That’s irrelevant to the argument.

    Despite what the Romans did, Londoners, for instance threw their waste into the streets and into cellars under their houses for centuries after the Roman empire became little more than a memory.

    In October 1660, Samuel Pepys records in his diary: “Going down to my cellar…I put my feet into a great heap of turds, by which I find that Mr. Turner’s house of office (sic) is full and comes into my cellar” …
    There were many houses however which did not have cess-pits and so their inhabitants resorted to the use of chamber-pots, the contents of which were regularly emptied out of windows, much to the chagrin of unsuspecting passers-by.

    https://fascinatinghistory.blogspot.com/2005/05/cess-pits-and-chamber-pots.html

    My favorite story about chamber pots is this. where they were apparently used as weapons of insult:

    Massachusetts Bay militia raiders under Colonel John March were badly beaten in their siege of Port Royal, Quebec (1707), and when March and his lieutenants returned to Boston they were harassed by a crowd of women bearing wooden swords and shaming them.

    “As the commanders made their way down the narrow streets to the governor’s house they were trailed by the women, who called out to housewives along the way: “Holloo neighbor, hallo. Is yer piss-pot charged? So-ho, souse the cowards. Salute Port Royal.”

    -John Winthrop as quoted by John Mack Faragher, A Great and Noble Scheme, p 115, (2005)

  202. Avery says:
    @attilathehen

    The original, indigenous Egyptians, the Copts, are now an oppressed minority in their own country -
    after the invasions of Muslim Arab nomadic, tribal hordes.

    • Replies: @HogHappenin
  203. Okechukwu says:
    @attilathehen

    The ancient Egyptians were Caucasians, not black.

    This is Queen Kemsit:

    If she isn’t black, then neither am I. Or do you think that Caucasians come with black skin and Afros? I’ll grant you, her servants/slaves appear to be Caucasian.

  204. @attilathehen

    Jews don’t need to go anywhere but stay in whatever countries their earlier tribe migrated to. HOWEVER. they should NOT be allowed anywhere close to positions of power and influence which is PRECISELY what the elites among them do in ALMOST every country they inhabit. This seems to be their defining trait ever since they were dispersed from the holy land by God Almighty. I wouldn’t be surprised to know that they must’ve rosen even amongst the Babylonians after the Babylonians completely destroyed the Northern Israelites. Which explains how they go the whole Talmud thing going! Now that takes some ‘art’!

    Now with their “deception” of Democracy and FoS, they openly make fun of Jesus in our lands whereas a slight “misdemeanour” upon their most sacred myths could destroy you in a matter of days

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  205. @Avery

    Egypt has a very rich and long past. Reducing it to “the original, indigenous” peoples is negating that. Almost every major power has tried and at times succeeded in replacing the (then) currently ruling power tracing back all the way to the Pharaohs

    Secondly I hope the US and their chosen masters and their “allies” the Saudis don’t try to “liberate” the copts just as they tried to “liberate” the Syriac Christians by way of their “Freedom loving moderate terrorists”. Tch Tch!!

    • Replies: @Avery
  206. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    I was under the impression that soap was invented by the Nazis during WW 2.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  207. @HogHappenin

    Hahahaha

    A classic ad hominem. Look it up hun if you don’t know what that means ;)

    All I stated are facts so prove me otherwise if you can. Or else please visit Taiwan sometimes on a “teaching assignment” perhaps to teach them English and see how they study! Stumble into their math lectures and you’d be amazed how much even 13 year olds know!

    By the way, I do not have even a mild case of Yellow fever. Far from it. I’m more into Sophia Loren and Monica Belluci (if you catch my drift). In fact the thin geishas and the high number almost pre-pubescent looking women out there that excites many a white man is something I detest. I like my women looking like women ;)

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  208. @Okechukwu

    Why have no black Pharaohs been found entombed in the pyramids of Egypt? So far, all have blond or red hair.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Okechukwu
  209. Avery says:
    @HogHappenin

    {Secondly I hope the US and their chosen masters and their “allies” the Saudis don’t try to “liberate” the copts just as they tried to “liberate” the Syriac Christians….}

    Not very likely.

    Egypt has been bought and paid for by US, since the Camp David accord between Egypt and Israel.
    Egypt is fully compliant and cooperating with Israel in blockading Gaza.
    It’s been said that if US turns off the spigot (…and the shipments of grain and other foodstuffs), Egypt can face starvation.

    Reason Syria was targeted is because Syria was and is not, uuummmm, ‘cooperating’ (sic).

    Furthermore, despite being marginalized and oppressed, Copts at least were not being routinely terrorized and murdered under secular dictators Sadat and Mubarak. When the Muslim Brotherhood won the election and started ruling Egypt, oppression and terrorizing of Christian Copts by Islamist mobs was not only tolerated, but encouraged by the MB rulers. US no doubt had a hand in helping Sisi and his people overthrow MB, and neutralize Morsi and MB. So, in a way, US helped Copts, although they didn’t do it to save Christians* for sure. It was a side benefit of their goal of overthrowing Islamists.

    ————————-
    *
    Iraq had a healthy, ancient Christian population under Saddam. After the US&UK invasion, the Christians of Iraq are almost completely gone. US meddling in Middle East has been an unmitigated disaster for the remaining, indigenous, Christians of Middle East.

    • Agree: HogHappenin
  210. denk says:
    @jacques sheete

    yes I know.
    But sometimes I get tired talking to those morons, trying to educate them is like ‘playing piano to a bull’.

    George Carlin on the shithole….

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  211. denk says:
    @KenH

    Calling Cuba, Haiti, Somalia etc etc shitholes…
    After gang raping them for decades ?
    Some ‘guilt trippling’ !

    You got it right with the jp tho,
    Like the whiteys, them jp have no concept of guilt, see how they whitewash their ww2 crimes.
    Now they have the cheek parroting the murkkan B.S. about the ‘yellow peril’ ?
    No wonder they are elevated to the status of ‘honorable whites’ !

    Jp and whiteys are birds of the same feather,
    You owe them an apology !

  212. denk says:
    @HogHappenin

    Derbyshire must be smoking something good when he bleat about the
    ‘Chinese overclass‘ ! [sic]

    The hierarchy of murkkan society

    Wasp/Jews/Indians [TPTB]
    Euros/Jp
    Eastern Euros

    Latinos
    Blacks/chinks/gooks//…….

  213. @attilathehen

    Damn I answered my own question here when it should have been you, Ms. Hen!! Damn those lovelies you had me going in my mind made me ‘wander’ a bit :D
    Here’s repeating it:

    A classic ad hominem. Look it up hun if you don’t know what that means ;)

    All I stated are facts so prove me otherwise if you can. Or else please visit Taiwan sometimes on a “teaching assignment” perhaps to teach them English and see how they study! Stumble into their math lectures and you’d be amazed how much even 13 year olds know!

    By the way, I do not have even a mild case of Yellow fever. Far from it. I’m more into Sophia Loren and Monica Belluci (if you catch my drift). In fact the thin geishas and the high number of almost pre-pubescent looking women out there that excites many a white man is something I detest. I like my women looking like women ;)

  214. denk says:
    @anonymous

    any country that still has public toilets that are nothing more than a hole in the ground is a shithole country. None should be allowed in from those countries. This would include all 3rd world countries including India and China.

    YOu oughtta get out more to see the world kid !

  215. Avery says:
    @Carroll Price

    According to Wiki [Kemsit was an ancient Egyptian queen consort, the wife of pharaoh Mentuhotep II of the 11th Dynasty], meaning she was a queen by virtue of being married to a pharaoh, as opposed to a queen regnant, who is queen in her own right.

    Kemsit was a Nubian (present day North Sudan, South Egypt).
    The Pharaoh married this Nubian woman, for whatever reason, and she became queen.
    Clearly, there is no evidence of genealogical lineage to Egyptians of the day for queen Kemsit. Kemsit was considered a secondary wife.
    And there is no evidence she bore any children for the Pharaoh.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  216. @HogHappenin

    I blame this on the cucks in the RCC/Zioevangizers/Freemasons.

  217. @Okechukwu

    There was travel between Egypt and sub Saharan Africa so there would be some blacks in Egypt. But the final destruction of the Caucasian Egyptians came after Islam conquered the Egyptians and brought in many black slaves which mixed with them because of polygamy and concubinage. 90% of today’s Egyptians have black ancestry. Hence the IQ loss. Present day Egyptians could never build anything like the ancient Egyptians. They are not related any more.

    • Troll: Okechukwu
  218. @HogHappenin

    [You have previously been warned about leaving large numbers of content-free comments that clutter up this website, add nothing of value to the discussion, and often seem like they were written by a borderline mental-defective. This website is not intended for the endless ranting of mental-defectives, and henceforth many or most of your comments will be trashed. Perhaps you would be much happier on some other website.]

    Asians are a second tier race.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  219. Ingrid B says:
    @jilles dykstra

    @jilles dykstra: Germany is under US occupation, and is governed by a stasi style warmongering commie. The German citizens are held hostage, and clearly have no say in what is done in their name. The same can be said of other countries, including the US..

  220. utu says:

    Top 10 nations lacking toilets, doing it in open

    10. Niger: 12 million (Four in 5 people in Niger go in the open)
    9. Brazil: 13 million Brazilians go to the bathroom in the open
    8. Nepal: 15 million (52 percent of the 29 million)
    7. Sudan: 17 million people, or 41 percent of the population
    6. Nigeria: 33 million do it in the open
    5. Pakistan: 48 million
    4. Ethiopia: 49 million
    3. China: 50 million
    2. Indonesia: 58 million
    1. India: 638 million (54 percent of the 1.1 billion population, lack access to toilets)

    https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-Issues/2010/1119/World-Toilet-Day-Top-10-nations-lacking-toilets/India-638-million

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Bliss
  221. @Ingrid B

    “Germany is under US occupation”

    Nonsense, you have no clue as to what you are blathering about.

    In Germany US soldiers are subject to German law and not a few of them have ended up in german prisons, for various violation of german law.

    Several years ago there was a frontpage incident in which the kids of US soldiers killed a german lady by dropping stones from an Autobahn bridge, and these kids ended up in a german ( Juvenile) jail, period.

    Now if these kids were the children of “Occupiers” they would not have seen the inside of a German prison.

    The occupation ended in 1955, and all of the leftist nonsense about Americans still occupying Germany is just that : Nonsense.

    Sie sind offentsichtlich eine besserwisserische deutsche Linke, und Ihre unsinnige besserwisserische linke Meinung ist ermüdend und weltbekannt.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained Us army Vet, and pro jazz msuician.

    • Replies: @Ingrid B
  222. @Ingrid B

    Wrong. Germany remains US occupied territory like the Old South (the Confederacy) remains US occupied territory. Occupying a country with military forces is expensive and ineffective in the long run. Determining and enforcing the curriculum taught to emerging generations of the conquered accomplishes the same thing with the added bonus that starting with the 2nd generation of the conquered, the children of the conquered no longer recognize their country as occupied territory, followed up by becoming eager participates in their own captivity. With a case in point being that starting in the late 1800s (less than 30 years after entering into captivity) White Southerners began furnishing the bulk of all US fighting forces while, at the same time, serving as the most vocal supporter of the Empire.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  223. @Okechukwu

    But than it could be a depiction of hair saloon.

  224. denk says:
    @anonymous

    India is as big if not a bigger shithole than Africa

    Show some respect. !

    Indians are one third of your ruling class, viz, Wasp/Jews/Indians.
    Nikki Haley, Ajit Pae, Priti Patel, Navi Pillay…..Sundar Pichai ,..
    just to name a few.

    Dunno why Derbyshire keep whining about the Chinese overclass,
    talk about missing the elephant in the room,

    hehehehe

  225. @HogHappenin

    You are so doped onto your false pride …

    You certainly nailed that!

  226. denk says:
    @utu

    Take a look at China’s ‘toilet revolution’, it leaves murkka in the dust.,
    never mind the rest !

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  227. @attilathehen

    From comments we exchanged for another article.

    Pssst…your (rather low) IQ seems to be showing. Again.

  228. @attilathehen

    Proof that there is a Gawd.:

    [You have previously been warned about leaving large numbers of content-free comments that clutter up this website, add nothing of value to the discussion, and often seem like they were written by a borderline mental-defective. This website is not intended for the endless ranting of mental-defectives, and henceforth many or most of your comments will be trashed. Perhaps you would be much happier on some other website.]

    Whoever wrote that, Bless you!

    Can someone tell me why so many of those who rant about their supposed possession of superior IQs could be so often admonished on similar grounds?

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  229. @denk

    Take a look at China’s ‘toilet revolution’, it leaves murkka in the dust.,
    never mind the rest !

    No kidding.

    Funny how plenty of the supposedly “superior” Americans think a bidet is something to snicker about while most never even heard the term.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Authenticjazzman
  230. denk says:
    @jacques sheete

    As the legend goes,
    One day premier Zhou Enlai received a delegation from murkka.

    The haughty murkkan glared at Zhou and said,
    ‘you Chinese all walk with your heads down while we walk with our heads held high, do you see the difference ?’

    Zhou replied calmly,
    ‘I guess its cuz we’r going up hill, while you’r going down’

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  231. @jacques sheete

    ” Whoever wrote that, Bless you”

    Yeah you leftists really go for supression of opinion when it supports your viewpoint.

    You leftist hypocrites make me fucking sick with your forked-tongue manipulations.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, ( Still have my gold-embossed acceptance certificate) Airborne trained Us Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

  232. @Carroll Price

    ” Germany remains US occupied territory”

    Bullshit, I lived in Germany for forty-plus years and I KNOW that Germany is not occupied by the US in any way shape or means.

    They very well may submit to US demands regarding defense or monetary policy, but within the german gov there is an immense hatred for the conservative aspect of the USA amongst politicians of all party affiliations and their foreign minister ( Sec of state) actually labled DT as a ” hate preacher” : “Hassprediger”, something which would have never occured if Germany was indeed “Occupied” by the US.
    If the US was occupying German these hostile to the US individuals would not be running the Gov.

    The naive, stupid Germans love and worship BO, and they consider HC/BC to be paragons of integrity and decency.

    US military forces stationed in Germany are subject to all german laws, and this would never be the case if the US was an occupier, period.

    You do not know what you are talking about, basta.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro Jazz musician.

    • Replies: @Bill jones
  233. MBlanc46 says:

    I’m not feeling buoyant, but even a couple of positive stories is better than nothing.

  234. @jacques sheete

    ” Americans think a bidet is something to snicker about”

    Hogwash , I knew the meaning of bidet before you were born, and I had been to France before you were born.

    Authenticjazzman, “superior American” , “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.

    PS and I experienced the hole in the floor in France for pooping before you were born.

  235. Ingrid B says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    @authenticjazzman: just one question, are you jewish?

  236. @Authenticjazzman

    Hey AJM, I don’t know about the warning, but the rest seems to fit…

    [You have previously been warned about leaving large numbers of content-free comments that clutter up this website, add nothing of value to the discussion, and often seem like they were written by a borderline mental-defective. This website is not intended for the endless ranting of mental-defectives, and henceforth many or most of your comments will be trashed. Perhaps you would be much happier on some other website.]

    Thank you so much for providing evidence to support the observation that some comments often seem like they were written by a borderline mental-defective.

    It’s a good thing you brag about your supposed mental prowess because otherwise not even the brightest here would guess it to be the case.

    Despite your vaunted IQ, you evidently don’t know JS! :)

    • LOL: HogHappenin
  237. @Authenticjazzman

    Hogwash , I knew the meaning of bidet before you were born, and I had been to France before you were born.

    Yup. See what I mean?

    Thank you and don’t forget to use a tabo!

  238. @Authenticjazzman

    Yeah you leftists really go for supression (sic) of opinion when it supports your viewpoint.

    I not only think leftists are generally as dim witted as righties, but I’m all for freedom of expression because it often exposes people for what they are. I just don’t want it stinking up everything like the miasma emanating from the sh!thole known as DC.

    It’s something you geniuses can’t quite understand, apparently.

    But please do keep chattering away! :)

  239. Okechukwu says:
    @Carroll Price

    Why have no black Pharaohs been found entombed in the pyramids of Egypt? So far, all have blond or red hair.

    Well, congratulations. You as a neophyte and layperson have been able to ascertain the race of mummified Ancient Egyptians whereas experts in the field have been unable to do so, hence the Egyptian race controversy.

    Btw, the mummification process tends to straiten and redden hair over time. There are a bunch of red-headed mummies in South America also and we know for sure there were no red-haired Indians there.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  240. @Carroll Price

    Absolutely not. On the other hand there are numerous highly beneficial for humanity, invention by Jews.

  241. Okechukwu says:
    @Avery

    According to Wiki [Kemsit was an ancient Egyptian queen consort, the wife of pharaoh Mentuhotep II of the 11th Dynasty]

    He wasn’t Caucasian either.

    Clearly a black African.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Avery
  242. @Authenticjazzman

    The hole in the floor is not as important as what later happens to the contents. For centuries the Chinese collected the contents each morning and spread them over their rice paddies. Never heard what the French did with theirs, but using them to fertilize vineyards seems logical.

  243. @Okechukwu

    Again, there would have been some black Africans. But not enough to damage the DNA/IQ of the original Caucasian Egyptians. Many mummies have been genetically tested and they tested as Caucasians. Look at present day Egypt where 90% of the population has black ancestry. The average Egyptian IQ is 81. You can see from looking at pictures of today’s Egyptians they are black. Do you believe they can recreate the civilization of ancient Egypt?

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  244. Vic says:

    If immigration does not end, in 12 years Europe will be a Muslim Megacaliphate and USA
    will be part of a a Mexican Kingdom or a Latin Empire. The new Masters will be trading American slaves with Muslims.

  245. Avery says:
    @Okechukwu

    {Clearly a black African.}

    I don’t know: maybe he was or maybe he wasn’t.
    In this depiction, he clearly does _not_ have Negroid features.
    And if he was black, why isn’t he also painted black like queen Kemsit in #207 you posted?

  246. Okechukwu says:
    @attilathehen

    Again, there would have been some black Africans. But not enough to damage the DNA/IQ of the original Caucasian Egyptians.

    You have it in reverse. Egypt became increasingly Caucasoid over time. Maybe you should examine Ancient Egyptian statuary and artwork and tell me if they look Caucasoid to you. The Ancient Egyptians certainly knew how to depict Caucasians, so why is King Tut depicted thus?

    Many mummies have been genetically tested and they tested as Caucasians.

    This is a lie. Many mummies have not been tested. Some were tested from a period during which Egypt was known to have become mongrelized with Caucasians. Those, obviously came up as Caucasians.

    Regarding DNA:

    A previous issue of DNA Tribes® Digest identified African related ancestry for King Tut and other royal mummies from the Amarna Period.1 In this issue, results indicate that the later pharaoh
    Ramesses III also inherited alleles that are most frequent in present day populations of Sub-Saharan Africa. This provides additional, independent evidence of Sub-Saharan African ancestry (possibly among several ancestral components) for pharaonic families of ancient Egypt.

    http://dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2013-02-01.pdf

    The average Egyptian IQ is 81.

    All this IQ data you people keep referencing are fraudulent. Who was tested? When? Where? How? Sample size? Occupation? Education? Social status?, Etc. Funny, you haven’t asked any of these questions, which is what an intelligent person would do. Therefore we would have to conclude that it’s your own intelligence quotient that is subpar.

    You can see from looking at pictures of today’s Egyptians they are black.

    No they’re not.

    The black Egyptians are in Upper Egypt (Southern Egypt) because the invaders and conquerors didn’t go that far south. Those black Egyptians in the south are the descendants of the original Egyptians.

    Do you believe they can recreate the civilization of ancient Egypt?

    I don’t know. What I know for certain is that blonde haired/blue eyed Europeans couldn’t create Ancient Egypt because contemporaneously, they were in caves at the time.

  247. @Okechukwu

    I stated only 90% of today’s Egyptians have black ancestry. There is a 10% Caucasian, higher IQ portion that rules the country. Coptic Christian Egyptians are smarter than Muslim Egyptians and are a little whiter. The standard is always Caucasian, white. This is a picture of beauty contestants. Of course the whiter ones will get chosen. They are prettier and more acceptable. Also, they have bleached and whitened themselves as much as they can. King Tut was not black. His coloring in the pictures is ruddy, red. Here’s a simple rule: the lighter the skin, the higher the IQ, the darker the skin, the lower the IQ. 90% of today’s Egyptians are low IQers because they are black (from light to dark skin).

  248. @Okechukwu

    The same basic evidence exist showing pyramids and other advanced structures found in South America were also designed by red-haired Caucasians. You apparently failed to learn the 1st rule of thumb stating that when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

    • Troll: Okechukwu
  249. @Okechukwu

    I can tell you took your black history studies serious. Too bad it was dreamed-up by leftist “scholars” who’ve never presented historic or physical evidence to support any of it. But, you’re not alone so carry on. A high percentage of the world’s population depend upon and thrive on misinterpretations and myths of various descriptions. For instance, well over 75% of the world’s population will tell you that Moses parted the waters of the Red Sea and walked across on dry land, and that Jesus walked on water.

  250. Congratulations John on making interesting and effective points about numeracy. As you might vaguely remember I have some claim to being part of the reason Australian public policy may have been on average 20 years or so ahead of America where numeracy has been key. E.g. my state led the way [and needed to because of past indulgence] in ending defined benefit/final salary based indexed pensions in 1993.
    My favourite illustrative anecdote dates to the late 1970s when a former Methodist minister just elected as a reliable conservative politician on economic matters lamented that all these poor mortgagees were having to pay 7 per cent interest and I felt compelled to pour scorn on my new friend for not noticing the consequences – the winners and losers – out of inflation being 8 per cent! No wonder the public sector pensions battle took the best part of 20 years to win, or at least get to the point where the rises in longevity in recent decades weren’t a serious threat to state and local government finances.

    Back to what matters. Can you please JD help us all be numerate warriors by your publishing a few essential algorithms and/or giving us links that allow us to be able quickly to say “Your existing indigenous populations’ median age is 40, your TFR is 1.6, average age of mother for all births is 33, how long it will take for an immigrant population one quarter the size to have more Over 18 voters if its TFR is 4 and average age of mother 27 is just X years.”

    And maybe you vould publish a suite of possible scenarios as illustrated in tables and graphs.

  251. MarkinLA says:
    @HogHappenin

    I have a lot more respect for the Chinese H-1Bs I have met than the Indian ones and a lot of respect for Chinese diligence. However, the stereotype of the Chinese grinder is not without a significant amount of truth and with it too much is made of their endless studying and book learning.

    The Chinese are going to make significant contributions to science and technology, just like the Japanese and Koreans will. However to assume that whites will be left behind because as undergraduates they don’t study as hard is ridiculous. Plenty of tech companies are founded and staffed by whites. In my entire working life I never worked for any tech company founded by an Asian or Indian, all the founders were white. Maybe there are so many Asians in academia is because they aren’t founding companies and leaving academia like Henry Samueli did after being a professor at UCLA.

  252. @Okechukwu

    blonde haired/blue eyed Europeans couldn’t create Ancient Egypt because contemporaneously, they were in caves at the time.

    It used to be funny. Now it’s just sad.
    Then, they wuz ignorant (because slayberry, whaever), now they just mad.
    I have a feeling that we have, despite our efforts to uplift, failed abjectly, and shamefully at that. These people are just .. born stupid. Or something.

    Proto-dynastic Egypt, dates? PPN-B, Badarian, Amratian, Gerzean?

    Neolithic Europe, dates? Say Vinca (proto- or actual writing, architecture, the entire suite of modern agriculture bar rice and potatoes and some other stuff like chickens and woolly sheep (tomatoes? corn?), even northern Europe (LBK/TRB).

    Advanced carpentry,beautiful ceramics, planned towns, navigation, deep-mining for flint and the rest. In the Balkans they may even have invented copper-mining and smelting first, and spread it to barbarians in the (sort of) Ukraine (eventually, vast city-building barbarians, Tripolye) and Anatolia, and thence to the Near East and Egypt.

    Eventually they expanded too far and bumped up against hideous hairy pants-wearing savages who’d invented horse-riding, and then wheels (beats a travois, like snowshoes or toboggans beat skis for some jobs) and had huge reserves of naturally-alloyed bronze that they never knew about, until some fool told them it was worth say, two cows, four linen shirts and five naked girls a pound.

    The rest is what we now call The History of the World, just to save time. Even in China and India.

    Stonehenge (which ended up as a fuckoff-huge multistory timber building, after having begun life as a big stone and bank affair mimicking the giant kraals of Avebury, Durrington and Blackshouse Burn, in turn derived from both Michelsberg and even early Portuguese cattle/ritual/defence enclosures; those distinctions were not made at the time, it seems) was initiated late in the settlement of a remote island, along with many other huge projects across Atlantic Europe around 3100BC. Probably the last place in Europe to be occupied by settled communities, due to its unbelievably disgusting and agriculturally hostile climate.

    Never lived in caves. Even neanderthals just overwintered in the open ends. You would too. It was as cold as fuck.

    Why am I getting that feeling? “Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time, and it annoys the pig.”

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  253. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The Ancient Romans weren’t exactly Europeans.

    You are right, the Romans were Yaruba.

    Look typical Yaruba to me.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Okechukwu
  254. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Yet the Egyptians were found fighting blacks.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Okechukwu
  255. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Alexander the Great was Yaruba too.

  256. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    He’s not completely wrong – Ethiopia to this day has a significant Eurasian admixture and remains one of the more successful African nations with one of the best GDP and living standard. Most of Africa is indeed a shithole, but there are clearly exceptions where a combination of mixture and selectional pressure in exposure to the rest of the world has given us interesting results.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Truth
  257. Avery says:
    @Anonymous

    { Ethiopia to this day has a significant Eurasian admixture }

    How and why did Ethiopians get Eurasian admixture and no other African nations did?

    btw: Ethiopians are about 70% Christian (~ 45% Orthodox+20% Protestant) and about 30% Muslim.
    Ethiopian Orthodox Church is one of the oldest Christian churches in the world.

    • Replies: @Malla
  258. Okechukwu says:
    @Expletive Deleted

    Nice try. But when anthropologists want to study ancient civilizations western, central and northern Europe are never on the itinerary.

    Stonehenge is a pile of rocks, by the way.

  259. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Yet the Egyptians were found fighting blacks.

    Complete idiocy. Those are two black armies fighting. Nubians tended to be darker. Sudanese are still very dark today, often pitch black. My own skin tone is closer to the Egyptians than the Nubians. I guess I’m not black either?

    • Replies: @Malla
  260. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    We know what the Ancient Romans looked like. But to describe them as European is a stretch. The idea of Europe is a social construct that only began in modern times to encompass the Mediterranean. A Roman would have felt much greater affinity with a black African legionnaire or Roman citizen than with a German or British barbarian. Rome, by the way, was multi-racial and multi-ethnic. They simply didn’t care about race or skin color.

    Modern concepts of race didn’t exist in ancient times. Romans were cultural imperialists but never racists or supremacists. From their point of view, anybody regardless of race or ethnicity could become “superior” by Romanizing. Remember, black African Roman troops helped put down the European barbarian tribes:

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  261. Bliss says:
    @utu

    So India has more than twice as many people without access to toilets than the rest of the top ten combined. The top 3 are all in Asia.

    India reigns supreme in the world in miserable living conditions: hunger and malnutrition, homelessness, lack of access to toilets and clean drinking water, beggary, bonded slave labor, child slavery etc.

    India is a miserably failed state with 1.3 billion citizens, yet the world doesn’t care. Neither do indians themselves, pointing fingers at others instead…

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  262. Art Deco says:
    @Bliss

    India reigns supreme in the world in miserable living conditions: hunger and malnutrition, homelessness, lack of access to toilets and clean drinking water, beggary, bonded slave labor, child slavery etc.

    Uh, no. India’s per capita income has about trebled since 1990 and (bracketing out natural resource rents) exceeds that of just about every country in Tropical Africa. It’s beginning to pull ahead of some Arab and Near Eastern countries as well as the lower ranks of Latin America. The majority of the population now works outside the agricultural sector.

    Literacy rates now exceed 70% for the population over the age of 15 and 85% of the population between 15 and 25. About 10% of the population is now conversant in English in addition to territorial languages.

    India’s life expectancy at birth is now about 68 years, a level not reached in the U.S. until around 1935. There’s a great deal of open defecation in India and large swaths of the population who lack reliable drinking water. However, > 90% of the population now has access to an improved water source.

    It has also had some of the world’s most durable electoral institutions, with just two interruptions (totaling less than 4 years) since experimentation with elected bodies began in 1909.

    • Replies: @Bliss
    , @Truth
  263. @Okechukwu

    Modern concepts of did exist in ancient times. The Indian caste system is the prime example. You’re just trying to find acceptance in the Western world. You won’t be accepted because you’re black. Blacks only succeeded in destroying ancient Egyptians through miscegenation. Asians destroyed Aryan India. This destroys IQs and peoples. This is the most important history lesson.

    • Troll: Okechukwu
    • Replies: @anon
  264. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @attilathehen

    As Okechukwu can surely testify to, the white race would surely be known as superior if every one of them wrote like you. For the “peoples.”

    Fortunately, you are not German. Thank God.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  265. Bliss says:
    @Art Deco

    Uh, no. India’s per capita income has about trebled since 1990 and (bracketing out natural resource rents) exceeds that of just about every country in Tropical Africa.

    See what I mean? Almost immediately a hindu internet troll shows up to lie and point fingers. Just recently I posted data proving otherwise to this same shamelessly dishonest poster. Read it again:

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/of-course-harvard-discriminates-against-asians/#comment-2117927

    Sub-Saharan Africa has a population of around 1.1 billion and GDP of over $ 2.6 trillion or $ 200 billion more in GDP than India with 200 million fewer people. Quite a bit higher per capita income than India. If you add the other nations of South Asia (Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal) the difference in per capita income increases even more in favor of Sub-Saharan Africa.

    Sources:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Africa

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_India’

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_(United_Nations)

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Art Deco
    , @Malla
  266. Thomm says:
    @Bliss

    Your own links counter your incorrect narrative. Since WNs have negro IQs, you can’t interpret simple date.

    Plus, I don’t think Art Deco is an Indian, and I am certainly not one. We just find WN wigger ignorance to be something to eradicate.

    See this chart of human development. Plus it ends in 2013, and India has been the fastest-growing economy in the world since that time.

    I recognize that WN wiggers don’t know how to read graphs and charts, but India is pretty much on par with what Eastern Europe was in the 1990s (Eastern Europe is bundled with Western Europe in this chart).

    In per capita GDP, India in 2018 is about the same as VietNam, the Philippines, and Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  267. denk says:

    Derbyshire frets about the ‘Chinese overclass

    Trump lambast the Haitian shithole,
    Both misses that elephant in the room big time !

    http://riceinstitute.org/blog/new-maps-which-country-has-the-most-open-defecation-in-the-world/

    Looks like The whiteys aint as bright as they advertise, !

    hehehehe

  268. @anon

    Actually, I’m partially German. That’s a part of my Heinz 57 background. I had to deal with what Ben Franklin wrote about Germans:

    Ben Franklin feared Pennsylvania was being overrun by stupid Germans:

    Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

    Pat Buchanan brought back these memories.

    “Peoples” was a typo I missed. I was in a hurry to do something elese.

  269. Bliss says:
    @Thomm

    Speaking of dishonest internet hindu trolls here comes the notorious Thomm, who thinks he is fooling everyone here with his claim that he is a white american.

    Your own links counter your incorrect narrative.

    The links I posted clearly show that India has lower per capita income than sub Saharan Africa.

    In per capita GDP, India in 2018 is about the same as VietNam, the Philippines, and Ukraine.

    2018 has just begun you moron. If you have a projection provide the link. According to the U.N. (and other legitimate sources) in 2016 India had a lower per capita income than all those countries, and Africa:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

    India $1706
    Ukraine $2099
    Vietnam $2171
    Phillipines $2951

    And here are some Sub-Saharan nations:

    Nigeria $2176
    Namibia $4415
    Botswana $6917
    Gabon $7002
    Equatorial Guinea $8742

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Malla
  270. Thomm says:
    @Bliss

    [If you keep ranting and raving so much, your future comments may not longer be published. You really might be happier at the different website.]

    2018 has just begun you moron.

    Then use 2017 numbers which are almost all actuals, not projections, you stupid faggot. The same ratios apply.

    And here are some Sub-Saharan nations:

    Debating by anecdote, eh? That is THE defintion of a negro behavior (the inability to distinguish between outliers and averages), earning you the description of ‘wigger’ yet again. Why didn’t you include Niger, Chad, Central African, Republic, etc?

    The funny thing about you White Trashionalist wiggers is that you have so little in common with successful whites (like me), that you will never figure out why you are singularly hated by them.

    Plus, the few African countries that are high are natural resource exporters. Qatar is much richer than any big Western country, you know.

    Lastly, you ignored the all important Human Development Index chart I linked. I recognize that with your room-temperature IQ, you are unable to interpret that graph. Take my word for it, that graph demolishes your Africa-loving wigger point.

    Get off my lawn, faggot!

    • Replies: @Bliss
  271. Thomm says:

    [If you keep ranting and raving so much, your future comments may not longer be published. You really might be happier at the different website.]

    I was responding to a comment addressed to me. Why are others held to a less stringent standard?

    Almost nothing a commenter says about, say, Jews, is considered out of bounds here apparently.

    I have no problem with stringent standards, if they are fairly applied.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Truth
    , @MarkinLA
  272. Art Deco says:
    @Bliss

    See what I mean? Almost immediately a hindu internet troll s

    India’s economic and social statistics are what they are. No amount of lying and blustering by you is going to change that.

  273. @Thomm

    Good points. I typed such a comment about these standards, but it was not posted. I’m glad yours was posted. I’m noticing this more and more. Also they are going to have to stop using the “anon” “Anonymous” handles. Commentators are going to have to pick a name. Under the Anonymous/anon handles I’ve noticed a lot of nut cases that go so extreme they are a parody of neo-Nazis and Stormfronters. And these “purists” wind up defending the black/Asian commentators (reminiscent of Hitler and his Muslim/Asian allies). One finally did reveal himself as an anti-white, Turk so he was just stirring up the pot and trying to avoid a movement from forming. Another would not have been admitted to the USA if Ben Franklin were alive and who was not wanted in the 20th century America. And some of the attacks on the Jews are bizarre. Jews are a minor problem.

    Big picture, it is the Caucasian RCC/Zioevangizer/Freemason men who are the biggest problem. The RCC must accept anyone who wants to convert. Jews/blacks/Asians are equally welcomed. Big problem. Zioevangizer males believes Jews are the chosen and they are to lead Christians. Gentile Freemasons believe in universal brotherhood. Jews dislike the West even more now because they are very racially distant. The Ashkenazi Jew is gone. This supposed Jewish power exists because of the weakness of the Western male.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  274. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    It is not the skin colour but facial features. The Egyptians look like dark Caucasians like brown people.

    • Replies: @Truth
  275. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    The idea of Europe is a social construct

    Europe is not a social construct.

    Rome, by the way, was multi-racial and multi-ethnic. They simply didn’t care about race or skin color.

    This is probably more true for Egyptians.

    From their point of view, anybody regardless of race or ethnicity could become “superior” by Romanizing.

    That could be true. But does not change the fact that most Early Roman Emperors since Augustus looked more like those Northern ‘barbarians’.

    https://www.theapricity.com/earlson/history/emperors.htm

    Of the 18 Emperors from Augustus to Commodus: 9 had blond or red hair; 5 had grey or white hair; 3 had no recorded hair colour, and just 1 (Hadrian), was referred to as dark-haired.

    Of the 18 Emperors from Augustus to Commodus: 9 had blue or grey eyes; 2 had “wine-coloured eyes” (whatever that may mean), and 7 had no recorded eye colour.

    Modern concepts of race didn’t exist in ancient times.

    Not true at all.

    black African Roman troops helped put down the European barbarian tribes

    So what? European Colonial Empires used black and Asian soldiers in wars against other European powers as well as black tribes. When the allies attacked German colonies in Africa they did use some native troops as well as the Germans. When the British attacked the White Boers in South Africa, there were Indians in the British Army. The Romans did the same. Besides the Romans also used Northern European troops to put down non Europeans. There were Dacian troops in Egypt in the service of the Roman Empire.

  276. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    Nigeria $2176
    Namibia $4415
    Botswana $6917
    Gabon $7002
    Equatorial Guinea $8742

    The only solid case you have is Nigeria. I will agree with that. Though Nigeria has oil, it has a big population.

    Botwana and Namibia are sparsely populated countries with loads of resources like Diamonds. Comparing these tiny populations with a country like India which has more people than all Africa. Really?

    Equatorial Guinea has a super tiny population where the ruling family owns most of the wealth which skews their per capita income.
    You really are a joke. LOL

    What did you not take the example of Mauritius? With a per capita income of 9,671 and is 60% Indian.

    • Replies: @Bliss
    , @Truth
  277. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    A Roman would have felt much greater affinity with a black African legionnaire or Roman citizen than with a German or British barbarian.

    Again shows a lot of ignorance. The Romans themselves came from Northern Europe, from the land of the Franks.
    Linguistically and in religion, the Romans had more in common with Northern Europeans than Egyptians.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_religion

    *Seh2ul and *Meh1not are reconstructed as the Proto-Indo-European goddess of the Sun and god of the Moon respectively. *Seh2ul is reconstructed based on the Greek god Helios, the Roman god Sol, the Celtic goddess Sul/Suil, the Norse goddess Sól, the Germanic goddess *Sowilō, the Celtic Sul, the Hittite goddess “UTU-liya”,[35] the Zoroastrian Hvare-khshaeta[35] and the Vedic god Surya.[36]

    *Meh1not- is reconstructed based on the Norse god Máni, the Slavic god Myesyats,[35] and the Lithuanian god *Meno, or Mėnuo (Mėnulis).[37] They are often seen as the twin children of various deities,[38] but in fact the sun and moon were deified several times and are often found in competing forms within the same language.[38]

    The Horse Twins are a set of twin brothers found throughout nearly every Indo-European pantheon who usually have a name that means ‘horse’ *ekwa-,[43] but the names are not always cognate and no Proto-Indo-European name for them can be reconstructed.[43] In most Indo-European pantheons, the Horse Twins are brothers of the Sun Maiden or Dawn goddess, and sons of the sky god.[44]

    They are reconstructed based on the Vedic Ashvins, the Lithuanian Ašvieniai, the Latvian Dieva deli, the Greek Dioskouroi (Kastor and Polydeukes), the Roman Dioscuri (Castor and Pollux), and the Old English Hengist and Horsa (whose names mean “stallion” and “horse”).[45] References from the Greek writer Timaeus indicate that the Celts may have had a set of horse twins as well.[46] The Welsh Brân and Manawydan may also be related.[43]

    It is highly probable that the Proto-Indo-Europeans believed in three fate goddesses who spun the destinies of mankind. Although such fate goddesses are not directly attested in the Indo-Aryan tradition, the Atharvaveda does contain an allusion comparing fate to a warp.[66] Furthermore, the three Fates appear in nearly every other Indo-European mythology.[66] Examples include the Hittite Gulses, the Greek Moirai, the Roman Parcae, the Norse Norns, the Lithuanian Deivės Valdytojos, the Latvian Láimas, the Serbian Sudjenice, and the Albanian Fatit.[67] They appear in English mythology as the Wyrdes,[68] who were later adapted to become the Three Witches in William Shakespeare’s Macbeth (c. 1606).[69] An Old Irish hymn attests to seven goddesses who were believed to weave the thread of destiny, which demonstrates that these spinster fate-goddesses were present in Celtic mythology as well.[70]

    One common myth found in nearly all Indo-European mythologies is a battle ending with a hero or god slaying a serpent or dragon of some sort.[77][78][79] Although the details of story often vary widely,[80] in all iterations, several features remain remarkably the same.[80] In iterations of the story, the serpent is usually associated with water in some way.[81] The hero of the story is usually a thunder-god or a hero who is somehow associated with thunder.[78] The serpent is usually multi-headed, or else “multiple” in some other way.[79][82]

    In Hittite mythology, in which the storm god Tarhunt slays the giant serpent Illuyanka.[83] In the Rigveda, the god Indra slays the multi-headed serpent Vritra, which had been causing a drought.[84] In the Bhagavata Purana, Krishna slays the serpent Kāliyā.

    Several variations of the story are also found in Greek mythology as well.[85] The story is attested in the legend of Zeus slaying the hundred-headed Typhon from Hesiod’s Theogony,[78][86] but it is also in the myths of the slaying of the nine-headed Lernaean Hydra by Heracles and the slaying of Python by Apollo.[82][87] The story of Heracles’s theft of the cattle of Geryon is probably also related.[82] Although Heracles is not usually thought of as a storm deity in the conventional sense, he bears many attributes held by other Indo-European storm deities, including physical strength and a knack for violence and gluttony.[82][88]

    The original Proto-Indo-European myth is also reflected in Germanic mythology.[89] In Norse mythology, Thor, the god of thunder, slays the giant serpent Jörmungandr, which lived in the waters surrounding the realm of Midgard.[90][91] Other dragon-slaying myths are also found in the Germanic tradition. In the Völsunga saga, Sigurd slays the dragon Fafnir and, in Beowulf, the eponymous hero slays a different dragon.

    The Greek Sun-god Helios, the Hindu god Surya, and the Germanic goddess Sól are all represented as riding in chariots pulled by white horses. The earliest discovered chariots come from the Kurgan culture in southwest Russia, commonly identified as belonging to the Proto-Indo-Europeans.[95]

    The myth of the Sun and Moon being swallowed by some kind of predator is also found throughout multiple Indo-European language groups. In Norse mythology, the Sun goddess (Sól) and Moon god (Máni) are swallowed by the wolves Sköll and Hati Hróðvitnisson.[96] In Hinduism, the Sun god (Surya) and Moon god (Chandra) are swallowed by the demon serpents Rahu and Ketu, resulting in eclipses.[97]

    Another possible Proto-Indo-European mytheme is one in which the goddess of the dawn is born from the sea following a conflict between a god and his enemy.[98][99] In the Rigveda, the goddess Ushas and a herd of cows are freed from imprisonment after the god Indra slays the multi-headed serpent Vritra.[98][99] A comparable myth in the Greek tradition is the myth of Aphrodite rising from the foam of the sea following Ouranos’s castration by Kronos.[98

  278. Thomm says:
    @attilathehen

    Good points. I typed such a comment about these standards, but it was not posted. I’m glad yours was posted. I’m noticing this more and more. Also they are going to have to stop using the “anon” “Anonymous” handles. Commentators are going to have to pick a name. Under the Anonymous/anon handles I’ve noticed a lot of nut cases that go so extreme they are a parody of neo-Nazis and Stormfronters.

    Heh. The moderation standards are so inconsistent and selective that they even got me and Attilathehen to agree on something.

    I always just filter anyone who is ‘anon’ or ‘Anonymous’ or ‘Mr. Anon’.

    • Replies: @Truth
  279. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Well…

    We have a American black man calling an Israeli Jew a “hindu apologist.”

    We have an Indian pretending to be a white calling a black man a “wigger.”

    And we have a Chinese Han troll mocking the “West” for Indian toilet issues, probably thanks to India claiming Aryan genes.

    Have we reached Peak Unz yet?

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Truth
  280. @Anonymous

    No. I’m still waiting for responses from several commentators who don’t like Jews on what we should do with the Jews in the West.

    Then things will really get interesting.

  281. @Authenticjazzman

    You seem to think Mensa means something .why? I’m 4 SD’s up on S-B and I don’t think it’s a big deal.

  282. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    Botwana and Namibia are sparsely populated countries with loads of resources like Diamonds. Comparing these tiny populations with a country like India which has more people than all Africa. Really?

    Well then compare the smallest states of India to these small african nations. Excepting Goa none of the least populous Indian states approach even half the per capita income of at least 5 small african nations. And Goa, the exception, with the highest per capita income in India, is a very atypical Indian state. It was ruled by the Portuguese not by the British and an unusually large percentage of its population (25%) is Christian (Catholic).

    Likewise, let’s compare the largest country in Africa, Nigeria, to the largest state in India, Uttar Pradesh which is the hindu aryan heartland being home to the largest number of brahmins, the holiest city of hindus (Varanasi) and the holiest river in Hinduism (Ganges):

    Nigeria: population 193 million; GDP $484 billion
    Uttar Pradesh: population 200 million; GDP $230 billion

    The Indian state with the slightly higher population has less than half the GDP of the african nation.

    Let’s look at some pictures of the largest city in these two entities:

    Lagos, Nigeria, Africa:

    Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh, India:

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLQ0BSkaC47yvwkWx1yhLq_kAdfHvibL2kH6hoPz0SETU8_wdr

    • Replies: @Bliss
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  283. Bliss says:
    @Bliss

    Oops, the first two pictures of Lagos are illustrations. Disregard.

  284. Bliss says:
    @Thomm

    Then use 2017 numbers which are almost all actuals, not projections, you stupid faggot. The same ratios apply

    .

    It takes a special kind of imbecile to argue that in a year India increased its per capita income from $1706 to “about the same as” $2951!

    you ignored the all important Human Development Index chart I linked

    India ranks #131 on the HDI list, and you are thumping your chest over it?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

    Even that ranking is absurdly high for a failed state like India where the majority of the population has no access to toilets, whose two biggest states have per capita incomes below $1000, whose two biggest rivers (the source of water to most Indians) are two of the most polluted in the world etc. What the hell kind of “human development” is this index measuring?

    Why didn’t you include Niger, Chad, Central African, Republic, etc?

    That made me laugh. It’s funny to see these hindu chest thumpers demanding to be compared to the handful of small failed states that are worse off than India. Have you no shame?

    • Replies: @Malla
  285. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    It was ruled by the Portuguese not by the British

    You got it wrong. Goa was part of an European Empire far longer than the rest of India. This shows colonialism can be a good thing. Maybe if the rest of India was part of the British Empire longer, things would have been better. Besides the Portuguese imposed their culture (and hence a larger Christian population) far more than the British who mostly left the social mores of the Indians alone unless it was some crackpot social more like Sati, Thugess etc….

    Nigeria: population 193 million; GDP $484 billion
    Uttar Pradesh: population 200 million; GDP $230 billion

    I had already accepted you Nigeria example as legit in my eyes. No beef with that.
    But we can reframe it as Nigeria population 193 mil WITH OIL GDP $484 billion
    Uttar Pradesh population 200 million WITHOUT OIL GDP $230 billion.
    A large part of India’s foreign exchange is spent in importing crude oil.

    Lagos vs Lucknow
    Lagos was in the past the capital of a country, A UN recognized country. Obviously it is going to be more developed than a state capital in India.

    But pictures can show many things. Most of your pics are fake conceptual photos.

    Why not show Nioda in UP

    https://i0.wp.com/www.thelogicalbuyer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Noida-Infrastructure-projects.jpg?resize=800%2C445

    or Gaziabad

    http://www.panoramio.com/photo/84381179

    with these pics of lagos

    • Replies: @Bliss
  286. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    Wait a secondi, Seniorita Blissi

    From

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

    India’s GDP is $ 2.2 trillion (IMF 2016)

    From

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_continents_by_GDP_(nominal)

    All Africa’s GDP is $ 2.19 trillion (IMF 2016)

    And Africa’s GDP includes South Africa and it is not fair to include developed/ close to developed South Africa as South Africa has millions of Northern European White people.

    Besides Africa is much much richer in resources including several oil producing countries such as Libya, Angola, Nigeria, has a much lower overall population density, has a lot more productive land.

    ALSO a picture is = a thousand words

    Remember, the above is GDP/per capita PPP not nominal.

    Now lets see a world map of HDI.

    Share of population living in EXTREME POVERTY

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-in-extreme-poverty-by-world-region

    Sub Saharan Africa has more percentage of people living in extreme poverty than South Asia. At the same time, South Asia has seen a much bigger fall in percentage of people living in extreme poverty than Sub Saharan Africa.

    Capice.

  287. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    That made me laugh. It’s funny to see these hindu chest thumpers demanding to be compared to the handful of small failed states that are worse off than India. Have you no shame?

    Only a handful?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

    Check out the tail end of that list of GDP/ capita

    166 Chad 799
    167 Mali 793
    168 Comoros 777
    169 Guinea-Bissau 761
    170 Haiti 761 (In da Carribean but could easily be in Africa)
    171 Rwanda 754
    172 Guinea 707
    173 Uganda 700
    174 Burkina Faso 696
    175 Togo 621
    176 Sierra Leone 593
    177 Afghanistan 572 (Asian but War Zone)
    178 Gambia, The 488
    179 Liberia 474
    180 D R of the Congo 466
    181 Niger 420
    182 Mozambique 417
    183 Madagascar 412
    184 Central African Republic 399
    185 Burundi 343
    186 Malawi 326
    187 South Sudan 221

    Dat is much more dan a mere handful if you ask me. Something like 19 whole nations. So you have many more options than a handful for comparing with Bharat Varsha.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  288. Malla says:
    @Avery

    Ethiopia is much closer to Eurasia, cross the narrow strip of water and you are in Yemen, which is Eurasia. The Sahara acted like a gene flow barrier (but not 100% barrier) for rest of Africa.

  289. Truth says:
    @Thomm

    Keep in mind that now that Ron Unz has found Fred Reed, Ron Unz does not have to do this dirty work himself.

    The long-term master plan of Ron Unz was to destroy WN from within, by :
    a) Starting a site to bring a few known authors together.
    b) Establish trust for a few years.
    c) Start normalizing illegals by pointing out that Hispanic crime is lower than black crime (which does not mean Hispanic crime is low in absolute terms), and then normalize illegals in a boil-the-frog way.

    Now that Fred Reed is doing some of the normalization, the typical WN cannot connect the dots to Ron Unz, enabling Ron Unz to proceed to even further steps of his multi-year master plan.

    (wink).

    • Replies: @Malla
  290. Truth says:
    @Selvar

    Do the rabid anti-Semites and White Nationalists who comment here know about Unz’s ethic background and just ignore it, or are they blissfully ignorant?

    (wink).

  291. Truth says:
    @Bill jones

    I do not understand why Trump doesn’t hit the Pelosi birch with “I know how I made my money

    Because so does everyone else; daddy gave it to him.

  292. Truth says:
    @Thomm

    But I have to admire how skillfully he has lured WNs into disarray despite the facts WNs think they are able to sniff out this sort of scheme from a particular group. Frankly, no one is making a bigger mockery of WNs than Ron Unz.

    I have to give it to Ronald also; but the bar really isn’t all that high.

  293. Truth says:
    @Carroll Price

    It’s entirely possible that with time and maturity she will become a real pain-in-the-ass of the Establishment – both left and right alike. When and if that happens, she’ll have my respect and admiration.

    Well now, “she” is 56…

  294. Truth says:
    @Okechukwu

    I don’t know, ladies and gents, she looks pretty black to me.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Malla
  295. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    He’s not completely wrong – Ethiopia to this day has a significant Eurasian admixture and remains one of the more successful African nations with one of the best GDP and living standard.

    Yeah, if you consider #47 out of 53 “one of the best”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

  296. Truth says:
    @Art Deco

    Uh, no. India’s per capita income has about trebled since 1990 and (bracketing out natural resource rents) exceeds that of just about every country in Tropical Africa

    I have researched India’s per capita income be $6,490 a year, which would put it 12th in Africa.
    Highly impressive!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

  297. Truth says:
    @Thomm

    I was responding to a comment addressed to me. Why are others held to a less stringent standard?

    LMFAO!

    Hey Dawg, you’re of the lucky 80% of whites, the ones with high IQs that don’t come to this website, what do you expect, an even playing field?

  298. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Have you been to Egypt? I was there two years ago. I am an African-American, and EVERONE started a conversation with me by talking in Arabic.

    Not the case in the Gulf.

    • Replies: @Malla
  299. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Well now, he did favorably compare Africa as a whole to India as well.

    • Replies: @Malla
  300. Truth says:
    @Thomm

    Tillie, the “Blue-haired feminist” and “heh heh heh” coming together?

    These are strange times in which we live.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Malla
  301. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    Have we reached Peak Unz yet?

    No, but we must be getting close because it just gets better every day.

  302. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    You know, being quarter-Jew, you’re not exactly representative of most black people.

  303. Truth says:

    Good memory, Old Sport!

    But visualy, no one would confuse me, or Key, or Peele or Lenny Kravitz (who are half) for anything else.

  304. MarkinLA says:
    @Thomm

    Yeah, whoda thought?

    That is THE defintion of a negro behavior (the inability to distinguish between outliers and averages), earning you the description of ‘wigger’ yet again.

    The funny thing about you White Trashionalist wiggers is that you have so little in common with successful whites (like me),

    Get off my lawn, faggot!

    Just in one post. The complaint was about ranting and raving. Every now and then a snarky witty slam is just the thing to add to a post but this shtick is getting old and just makes you look like an idiot – especially since it isn’t even funny. I am (NOT) surprised you aren’t smart enough to see it.

    • LOL: HogHappenin
  305. Malla says:
    @Truth

    And I have disproved him. Anyways, Nigeria is doing better than India overall. No denying that. Good for the Niajas. But anyways India itself is no success story on a per capita basis.

  306. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    an unusually large percentage of its population (25%) is Christian (Catholic).

    My observation in the Indian subcontinent is that those places where a huge percentage of the population is Christian or Buddhist, the income gap tends to be less than in those places which are overwhelmingly Hindu or Muslim. Not only that, the surroundings are much cleaner and you observe much less of the tragedy of the commons that you observe in Hindu/Muslim areas.
    Examples would be the Christian areas of Goa, Kerala, Mizoram, Manipur, Nagaland states in India or the Buddhist states of Sikkim in India or the countries of Bhutan or the Sinhalese parts of Sri Lanka.

    • Replies: @Singh
  307. Malla says:
    @Truth

    LMFAO. Suffering together can create ardent feelings.

  308. So, none of the anti-Semites, RCC cucks, and misc weak Western males commenting here came up with any plans for dealing with the Jews. My belief that we need the state of Israel to deal with our Jewish problem is still the best.

    Fortunately, someone did make a youtube concerning the invasion of the West by Muslims. He doesn’t
    deal with the Jewish question or IQ/race, but this is a step in the right direction. And this should make things interesting.

    https://jaysanalysis.com/2018/01/18/islam-weaponized-migration-western-civilization/

    Mr. Dyer (an Eastern Orthodox convert) states that Islam is a Christian heresy. This is something several RCC commentators on this website have refused to state. This is something cuck pope Frannie and the USA RCC bishops refuse to do.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @HogHappenin
  309. Malla says:
    @Truth

    Yes she looks black, but is she pointing towards what she would like for dinner? I found her action in the picture more interesting than her skin colour.

  310. Malla says:
    @Truth

    Is that so? We need to post Carolla’s video on all of Fred’s article pages.

    LA is becoming Mexico and Mexico is a piece of S#!T

  311. Malla says:
    @attilathehen

    If I am not mistaken, Jay’s long term girlfriend is Jewish and that could be a reason he avoids the Jewish issue. Nobody in the world wants to deal with an angry Jewish girlfreind.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  312. Malla says:
    @Truth

    There are Nubians in Southern Egypt (and Northern Sudan) even today. Many modern Egyptians do look black. Sadat looked quite black but more like Ethiopian black. There are black looking people throughout the Arab World.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Alden
  313. @attilathehen

    I don’t need to repeat myself since I’ve already answered that I think sometime back. If you aren’t trolling, then you would surely remember?

    http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/buoyant-long-term-about-immigration-policy-and-trumps-right-they-are-outhouse-countries/#comment-2159485

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  314. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    Actually, India, ranked #145 (U.N. 2016) with per capita of $1706 is by far the biggest member of the tail end of that list.

    The global average is around $10,000

    Europe is at around $25,000

    South America is at $8500

    Central America is at $7500

    Southeast Asia is at $4000

    The tail end (under $2000) is dominated by the nations of the Indian Subcontinent and Subsaharan Africa. In the Subcontinent only Buddhist Sri Lanka manages to reach the southeast Asian level. While in Subsaharan Africa there are 6 nations that exceed that level.

    There are more south asians populating the tail than Subsaharan africans. This despite India enjoying a stable political system for 70 years unlike Africa.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Truth
  315. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    Nigeria population 193 mil WITH OIL GDP $484 billion
    Uttar Pradesh population 200 million WITHOUT OIL GDP $230 billion.

    Like every other Indian troll on the internet you are looking for excuses to explain away India’s low rankings. Instead of looking for reasons within India. No wonder nothing changes.

    If you had bothered to check you would have found that the oil industry accounts for only 9% of Nigeria’s GDP. Even if you take oil out Nigeria still has close to double the GDP of Uttar Pradesh.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_industry_in_Nigeria

    As of 2016, Nigeria’s petroleum industry contributes about 9% to its economy. Therefore, though the petroleum sector is important, as government revenues and foreign exchange still heavily rely on this sector, it remains in fact a small part of the country’s overall diversified economy.[1][2]

    • Replies: @Malla
  316. Malla says:
    @Realist

    And most of those people do anything they can to get out.

    Get out to go where? We (the ones with foresight amongst us ) can sense the Western world creating the demographics of a future India in the making.

    • Replies: @Realist
  317. Malla says:
    @denk

    What’d you call some place where the residents are kept in the dark and fed bullshit all day long ?

    The Whole World denk, the whole damn world. That is our planet for you.

  318. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Did you see a roadmap in the heiroglypic painting somewhere?

    • Replies: @Malla
  319. Singh says:
    @Malla

    Goa was an intellectual haven before Portuguese||

    Why don’t you mention the centuries long inquisition with thousands of destroyed Mandir, forced conversion & even a ban on wearing sandals?

    Longest Inquisition in history, Shiva Ji Maratha had to behead Padres to stop conversions||

    Ur a fraud & a Kusra.

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਹਿ।।

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  320. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria

    Petroleum plays a large role in the Nigerian economy, accounting for 40% of GDP and 80% of Government earnings.

    From

    http://acbntv.org/the-role-of-oil-in-nigerian-economy/

    It would be difficult to exaggerate the role of oil in the Nigerian economy. Since the first oil price shock in 1974, oil has annually produced over 90 percent of Nigeria’s export income. In 2000 Nigeria received 99.6 percent of its export income from oil, making it the world’s most oil-dependent country.

    ….snip….
    Oil has also had a deep influence on the Nigerian government. Since the early 1970s, the Nigerian government has annually received over half of its revenues – sometimes as much as 85 percent – directly from the oil sector.

    Anyways UP is a shithole and has the third lowest per capita income in India. Strangely the Hindi heartland near the Gangas was where a lot of ancient kingdoms existed including that of Emperor Ashoka. Now it is a shithole and probably will remain so for ever.

  321. Malla says:
    @Singh

    Why don’t you mention the centuries long inquisition with thousands of destroyed Mandir, forced conversion & even a ban on wearing sandals?

    That ended centuries ago, you fool. I am not praising that part. You cannot deny that Goa was under European rule the longest and the last part to leave European rule and has the highest standard of living in India after Delhi. Can you deny this?
    US$4,200 is the per capita income of Goa. And the difference in between rich and poor is much smaller than the rest of India. Have you even gone to Goa?
    Today Goa is flooded by Indians from other states and they are screwing up the place. Ask any native Goanese.

  322. Malla says:
    @Bliss

    Actually, India, ranked #145 (U.N. 2016) with per capita of $1706 is by far the biggest member of the tail end of that list.

    LOL, our population is so huge, we can easily be the biggest members in a lot of statistics. LOL. Way to twist things around.

  323. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Well then how do you know what part of the country this person depicted in this 4000 year old painting ,is from?

    • Replies: @Malla
  324. Truth says:
    @Bliss

    The tail end (under $2000) is dominated by the nations of the Indian Subcontinent and Subsaharan Africa. In the Subcontinent only Buddhist Sri Lanka manages to reach the southeast Asian level. While in Subsaharan Africa there are 6 nations that exceed that level.

    There are more south asians populating the tail than Subsaharan africans. This despite India enjoying a stable political system for 70 years unlike Africa.

    I don’t know, Malla…

    • Replies: @Malla
  325. Malla says:
    @Truth

    wowoowo you got me wrong. When I said there were Nubians living in the South of Egypt I did not mean anything about the painting. It was just with respect to your experience in Egypt that a substantial part of the Egyptian population today are black and that there are people even today called Nubains. I do not know how you look but Arabs as a people range from White to black and all types in between. I have seen black Arabs and blond Arabs.
    As far as the painting, she is a black person and as far as I know she is Egyptian. I have already agreed to this earlier.

  326. Malla says:
    @Truth

    What? He is partially right. There are more Sub Saharan African countries with a higher standard of living than South Asian ones even if you exclude South Africa. Namibia and Botswana and even Angola for example. This is fact. Indeed I have heard a lot of positive reviews about Botswana in particular from Western expats who have lived there.

    • Replies: @Bill jones
  327. @Malla

    I don’t know about his girlfriend status. His statement about Islam being a Christian heresy does not depend on him or his personal situation. This is what the pre-Vatican II RCC taught. The latest edition of the catechism (1992) is very fuzzy about Islam. I am sure this was not mistake. There is an RCC cable show, ETWN, which has a program hosted by a Jesuit named Mitch Pawca. This evil, mendacious Jesuit (it’s always the Jesuits) was babbling something about a book he is writing that will show how the Koran deals with Mary. I’ve heard RCC priests yapping about how the Koran mentions Jesus and Mary and they make it seem like it’s kosher. It’s not. The Koran deals with them as minor beings. David Duke will babble about how the Koran mentions Mary and makes it seem like Muslims revere her. Here is what Muslims really think about her: http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/cleric-muhammed-will-marry-virgin-mary-in-heaven/?cat_orig=faith

    I have mentioned this to RCC commentators, they write back saying that the RCC does not state Islam is a Christian heresy. The RCC cucks are destroying the West. As I’m sure you’ve noticed, no ideas from these cucks as to what to do with the Jews and whether Mr. Dyer is correct.

    As to Mr. Dyer and the Jewish problem, if his girlfriend is Jewish this is a huge problem because the Eastern Orthodox Church still blames the Jews for Christ’s death and states they are under a Deicidal curse. Also, Mr. Dyer says he is a believer and his mission is to convert people. If his girlfriend does not convert he will have cucked at this. However, I credit him for stating a theological fact that the RCC has refused to state and which is something RCC believers must state.

  328. @HogHappenin

    I’ve glanced at some of your comments but they are just odd scribblings that rarely mention an answer.

  329. Malla says:
    @Singh

    Singhji come to page

    https://www.unz.com/imercer/shithole-countries-what-makes-a-country-the-place-or-the-people/

    of Unz. There is a person debating the massacre of non Muslims by Muslims in Medieval India. I might need your expertise on this subject.

  330. Realist says:
    @Malla

    “Get out to go where? ”

    Anywhere that is better. I am not saying they should come here, just telling it like it is.

    • Replies: @Malla
  331. @Malla

    Botswana has two things going for it- diamonds and a heavily British influenced culture.

    • Replies: @Malla
  332. Malla says:
    @Bill jones

    Botswana has two things going for it- diamonds and a heavily British influenced culture.

    Heavily British influenced culture is exactly what the third world needs. Anyways Botswana should try to move up the value chain by processing diamonds and not depending on just exporting raw materials abroad. That way their prosperity can be preserved. The diamond industry is a scam anyways, where the supply of diamonds are controlled. Who knows when this scam goes bust. Botswana should use the wealth it has now to create a good manufacturing sector by investing money on it’s population to create a efficient productive workforce for a future manufacturing sector. But being a land locked country with disasters like Zimbabwe at it’s border is something of concern. Zimbabwe could have been a Botswana if they had not got the commie scum Mugabe as their leader, not driven the White Zimbabweans away (land should have been given to blacks on basis of ability after intensive training in modern farming methods and Whites given compensation to start businesses in Zimbabwe hiring more Zimbabweans) and controlled their population growth.

  333. Malla says:
    @Realist

    Anywhere that is better. I am not saying they should come here, just telling it like it is.

    That is kind of true, the way things are in India right now, anywhere is better. Turkey, Algeria, Thailand, Brazil you name it. Hell Indians are even going to Sub Saharan Africa (to loot the Blacks and Whites there with their mercantile skills). But the problem with non Western/ non Singapore countries is that they never treat foreigners as equals how much ever you try. It is only in the West and in Singapore that outsiders are really treated more or less equal in all matters in a fair way. Ironically this is exactly what is destroying Western countries and even Singapore.

  334. Liza says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    . While I don’t disagree with the general tone of your reply to Ingrid, you surely must know that the government here is also aware of where virtually everyone resides, all the time – without us ever having to actually report a move to the police. The homeless may have some advantage, here. Or maybe not – there’s cameras everywhere.

    Oh, well. It was a great ride, for awhile.

  335. Alden says:
    @Thomm

    Thin
    You don’t even know what a wigger is. Yet you constantly use the word.

  336. Alden says:
    @Malla

    Sadat’s mother was a black slave. The biographies all say she was the 4 th wife.

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