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February is, of course, Black History Month. So far, just one week in, the reminders are piling up. I have logged the following outrages that have black Americans cowering in fear in their tarpaper shacks.

  • https://vdare.com/filemanager_source/nickname.jpg?1549127259042Ralph Northam, the white Democratic Governor of Virginia, appeared in his 1984 medical school yearbook either in blackface, or in a Klan robe-and-hood, or neither, depending on who you believe. His picture in the 1981 yearbook of the Virginia Military Institute shows him having nickname “Coonman.” Governor Northam has been swinging wildly between denial and apology, with apology (I think) predominating.
  • The movie actor Liam Neeson, who I remember as a fine brooding Ethan Frome, explained to an interviewer how he’d worked up the anger for a film role he’s just recently performed. He’d recalled his feelings from an incident forty years ago, when a lady close to him was raped by a black man. The enraged young Neeson had gone out, presumably in London, looking for a random black man with the intent to kill him. Fortunately he calmed down before committing any violence. [Liam Neeson interview: Rape, race and how I learnt revenge doesn’t work, The Independent, February 5, 2019] He’s spent the last few days apologizing and protesting that he’s not racist.
  • January 28th in a New York Times op-ed, Daniel Pollack-Pelzner [Tweet him] who teaches English at liberal-arts Linfield College in Oregon told us that Mary Poppins is problematic—I’m sure that’s the right word, “problematic”—because in the classic movie version Mary deliberately blackens her face with soot. (Because she’s followed a chimney sweep up a chimney, but hey…) And in the original Mary Poppins books by Pamela Travers, 1930s to 1950s, characters use language about black people that we’d consider offensive in 2019, although nobody would have thought so in 1940 or 1950.

 

My first question, contemplating this nonsense: Are there enough grown-ups in the Democratic Party to fend off the party’s radicals?

Strike that! My second question: are there enough grown-ups in the United States to avert our apparently remorseless slide down into babbling infantilism?

And look at the implicit anti-whiteness on display in these stories. The merest, most trivial slight is taken to be outrageously offensive to the fragile sensibilities of blacks, even if from decades ago, while viciously anti-white comments go unremarked—will, in fact, get you a job on the New York Times editorial board, as it did for Sarah Jeong. (See Vox Explains Why You Can’t be Racist Against Whites,by Steve Sailer.)

I’ve been a fan of Political Science Professor Eric Kaufmann since reading his book The Rise and Fall of Anglo-America a dozen years ago. (See his VDARE.com debate with Kevin MacDonald.) Now here is Professor Kaufmann this week, writing in National Review: How ‘Asymmetrical Multiculturalism’ Generates Populist Blowback.[February 6, 2019]

And, yes, Kaufmann can fairly be categorized as Alt-Lite. He stays well clear of live rails—doesn’t touch race realism for example.

But he has an interesting mind, and a nice turn of phrase: “Asymmetrical Multiculturalism,” for example.

Quote:

At multiculturalism’s heart … lies a contradiction: White majorities are compelled to be cosmopolitan, urged to supersede their ascribed identity. Minorities are enjoined to do the reverse.

You nailed it, Prof! Sanctified minorities get a month of their own. Cherishing their precious, nursed-and-petted “identities,” they shriek and swoon at the most trivial imagined slight, and everyone rushes to soothe their wounded feelings.

The place of white people in this drama: grovel, apologize, grovel, apologize, and plead pitifully: “I’m not racist!”

The astonishing thing to me is that so many whites have put up with this silly nonsense for so long.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Black History Month has always been my favorite time of the year.

  2. These are the people whose ancestors survived the brutalities of slaving ships, slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow. What happened?

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    , @Wally
  3. Rich says:

    I don’t think “we’d consider” the language in the original Mary Poppins book “offensive”. I think the pantywaists and sissies with their PhDs and trust funds might find it offensive, but most of us wouldn’t. I don’t care about the feelings of liberal Whites and their opinions of “offensive” language. And from what I’m starting to see, especially among the younger Whites I work with, is everyone’s had enough. They went a little too far, a little too fast. There’s going to be a huge backlash.

  4. Oddly, it’s not always Black people who conjure up heretofore unsuspected racism, but Whites such as Dan P, noted in the article. The Black people who saw the movie understood she’s dressing as a sweep not as a Black woman so actual Black people haven’t been offended for what – 50 years now?

    The fact that White people feel obligated to tell us they offended by things that don’t offend actual Black people, is just weird. It’s like the Whites complaining about college Indian mascots when the local tribes don’t care. What’s it to you?

    The people who have standing to complain don’t complain, and the people who complain lack standing to complain. So why do we listen to them?

    • Replies: @Forbes
  5. Derbyshire, you’re always scribbling infantile nonsense.

    Here’s a doozy: https://vdare.com/posts/john-derbyshire-s-sotu-reflections-women-love-socialism

    You imported a Chinese communist woman and procreated a Chinese Democratic daughter.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @jeff stryker
  6. ‘Black History Month—Must We Slide Into Babbling Infantilism?’

    Given the very concept of ‘black history’ I would say that, yes, we do. Babbling infantilism would seem to be a prerequisite.

  7. Biff says:

    My second question: are there enough grown-ups in the United States to avert our apparently remorseless slide down into babbling infantilism?

    “I used to care, but things have changed.”

    Stolen from Bob Dylan

  8. Realist says:

    The astonishing thing to me is that so many whites have put up with this silly nonsense for so long.

    There is a large number of really stupid Whites.

    • Agree: apollonian, Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @attilathehen
  9. anarchyst says:

    There is one common denominator–the “elephant in the room” that most people are loathe to name, either out of fear of being called “anti-semitic”, racist, or other derogatory term. I DON’T CARE…
    I came of age during the first so-called “civil-rights” movement and saw for myself the underhanded dealings, the demonization of decent, law-abiding whites, and in general, the deterioration of civil society.
    Almost all of the “civil-rights” workers and demonstration “handlers” were of one persuasion–New York based leftist communist jews. They cared not one wit about true “civil rights”, but were there to create hate and discontent among their black charges (who were too stupid or naive to see that they were being used to suborn and destroy legitimate government and society–a favorite communist tactic). These New York-based “carpetbaggers” fomented their hate and discontent, only to become future “civil-rights” attorneys, race-hustlers, and America-hating leftist communists.
    In fact, we had a saying” “Behind every Negro there is a jew”. No truer words were spoken. It was JEWS who fomented the hate and discontent, and were responsible for the destruction of the social order of the day…
    The so-called “non-violent civil-rights demonstrations” were anything but “non-violent”. Robberies, rapes, and other criminal acts were common, but never reported, as even the jewish-controlled “mainstream media” was “in on the game” and conveniently turned off their cameras during the acts of violence. You see, even then,”creating crises” was a part of the agenda.
    The “beginning of the end” of America was the use of federal troops against white Americans, which, in itself was a violation of “posse comitatus”–the prohibition on the use of federal troops for domestic “law enforcement” purposes. (Thanks, Eisenhower) As most whites were (and still are) law-abiding, they (we) were “steamrollered” by the use of federal troops to crush honest dissent. We never recovered from those unconstitutional actions. It was all downhill from there…

  10. ariadna says:

    How about “Whiteface”? Black women straightening/dying their hair blonde, using or skin-bleaching cream? Is that racist or is it a reaction to white rejection, trying to “blend in”?
    Does name changing, like changing the ending of a patronymic from “stein” to “stone,” belong in the same category?

  11. @Fidelios Automata

    “These are the people whose ancestors survived the brutalities of slaving ships, slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow. What happened?”

    Maybe those events weren’t such “brutalities” as mythology would have us believe. Maybe, as valuable property, they were always treasured and pampered. Maybe they became so used to the doting care they received when under slavery that they can’t adapt to the rigors of life in a competitive marketplace for labor.

    In other words, American blacks, genetically selected under artificial agricultural conditions, are the equivalent of hothouse plants that have, as a result of emancipation, been transplanted into the wild rough and tumble world of Darwinian selection. And they are ill adapted for it.

    • Agree: buckwheat
    • Replies: @nik1975
    , @anarchyst
    , @lou
  12. @Realist

    Derbyshire is a perfect example of a stupid White.

  13. Who appointed these swooning snowflakes as spokethings for ever-morphing minorities du jour anyway? The answer is nobody. Like moslems who must pray five times a day, the leftist religion insists that their acolytes display virtue signalling whenever possible.

    Only infants, the insane, and animals are unable to take responsibility for their own feelings. I wonder, which of the three are snowflakes and their permanently aggrieved minorities, really?

  14. KenH says:

    But he has an interesting mind, and a nice turn of phrase: “Asymmetrical Multiculturalism,” for example.

    Multiculturalism is too nebulous and neutral. It’s more like assymetrical racial nationalism where every non-white racial group is allowed and encouraged to further their group interests at the expense of whites but it’s forbidden for whites to collectively push back, rhetorically or physically defend themselves or gawd forbid, actually go on the offensive.

  15. nik1975 says:
    @ThreeCranes

    I disagree with every statement that you make here

    firstly Id like to see you as a slave and then say that it is somehow a pampered life

    secondly it would take thousands of years and millions of people before any noticable genetic drift would become apparent in the general african black population for them to become, in your dimwitted words, hothouse plants

    I thought that UNZ had sophisticated and intelligent readers

    I am wrong on one count, you

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  16. anarchyst says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Let’s look at the differences between blacks and every other race…

    Europeans and Asians lived in harsh climates where life was (and still is) a struggle. In order to feed one’s self and family, it was necessary to domesticate both plants and animals. Ways were found that stressed preparing for the future, as there would be “lean” as well as “good” years when it came to animal and plant production. Both Europeans and Asians found ways to use plants and animals to insure their survival. Planning for the future was always a part of the European and Asian psyches. Social structures stressing “commonality of race and purpose” and preparing for uncertain futures was always part of the plan.
    Contrast that with blacks on the African continent, where both wildlife and animals were abundant. It was not necessary for Africans to establish agriculture or animal husbandry, as both were “there for the taking”. Africans cared little for future planning, not being able to develop any inventions, such as the wheel or boat. Among black Africans, there is no quest for exploration beyond searching for food—the next meal. Despite being situated on a great ocean, black Africans never pondered what lied beyond…
    Black DNA does not possess the capacity for exploration, future planning, or invention.
    The “grand experiment” of “civil-rights”, “(forced) integration”, and (misperceived) “equality” (that is still being pushed by globalists and others) is destined to fail. Thomas Jefferson realized over two-hundred years ago that blacks would not be able to co-exist without being treated as the different species that they are. Our attempts to equalize and normalize this species was doomed from the start.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  17. @anarchyst

    Yes, any attempt to preserve food in Africa would be doomed because the heat and humidity would cause spoilage. Effort expended by black Africans towards preserving food would be wasted energy. Therefore foresight and forethought would be a mischanneling of scarce adaptive resources which would harm their chances of survival. By impartial natural selection, blacks have been genetically sculpted to live in the moment.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  18. @nik1975

    There are many good accounts that tell of blacks’ behavior after emancipation. Blacks were lost and afraid. Freedom was incomprehensible. Many chose to remain with their former masters. In fair and open competition with whites, blacks foundered. They continue to do so today.

    The ones brought here were pampered under a system that protected them from the rigors of Darwinian competition. When they are not protected by a system which grants them special dispensations and privileges, they die off. Slavery protected them then; liberal State-sponsored transfer payments do so today.

    There’s not a black man in existence who has worked as hard as I have over the course of my life. My work load would kill any black man. They just don’t have the strength and stamina of which I am capable.

    The thing is, neither most white men in general nor I in particular need to be slaves in order to be motivated to work. Blacks do. Without compulsion, black men won’t work. Hence, slavery. A white man’s work load so traumatized them that they are still bitching about it today, one hundred and fifty years after the fact.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  19. anarchyst says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Not entirely true. There are methods for drying food, both meat and vegetables absent refrigeration that would work quite well in Africa. Jerky can easily be made from meat. Vegetables can be dried out using primitive methods.
    The DNA of the black African is not wired for future planning, exploration, or the concept of freedom and individual responsibility.
    The only form of “government” that works in Africa is the “strongman dictatorship” style of government where status is determined how close (or how far) someone is allowed to sit (proximity) to the village chief. There is no concept of “justice”…what the “strongman says, goes”.

  20. MarkinLA says:
    @WorkingClass

    Yes, how do you cram 4 hours of meaningful information into a whole month?

  21. Truth says:
    @attilathehen

    Derbyshire, you’re always scribbling infantile nonsense.

    I have to agree with Tillie here, Derb. And it’s not like a don’t like you. You seem like a benign-enough chap, and seem to have done well as a family man; but it’s almost like your writing devolves, roughly one grade level each year.

    You’ll be doing picture books by the election.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @attilathehen
  22. Truth says:
    @ThreeCranes

    There’s not a black man in existence who has worked as hard as I have over the course of my life. My work load would kill any black man. They just don’t have the strength and stamina of which I am capable.

    Well, My Friend, I hope that you did not sprain your shoulder patting yourself upon the back there. I have never had that type of self-confidence… or arrogance… but who’s to judge?

    This brings up an interesting question in my mind though; I have known black men in all fields of life, from trade-unions, to ranching, to farming, to professional athletics, and many of them seemed to have worked pretty hard: Of course I could be mistaken.

    So my question is this, if you have comprehensibly outworked every single one OF THE 500 million black men on this planet, 100%, what percentage of the white men have you outworked.

    Logically speaking, I would have to put the number at 99.99%

  23. Polemos says: • Website

    Three Cranes, what do you do? How do you know so many black people?

  24. @attilathehen

    Who would want to procreate with a fat-by 40 Polish Catholic girl whose maintenance is 10 x higher than an Asian woman plus not aging as well.

    After 40, Cossack women really pack on the pounds.

    Additionally, white men who marry Asian women can go back to their more stable and safer countries if they feel like it.

    Heck, I’ve never BOTHERED to take my wife to the US.

    And Slav women like you are barely white. There’s a great deal of Mongol in Eastern Europeans anyhow.

  25. @ThreeCranes

    Then why are blacks physically STRONGER than most whites.

    A black who sits on his butt all day smoking weed and drinking 40 ounces will still be able to lift more weight than Archie Bunker whose been busting heavies his entire life on some loading dock.

    The average 17 year old black kid who never so much as raked leaves is 6 foot 2 and has a build like a white man who hits the gym 3 hours a day after work and watches his diet.

    He’d probably be able to lift heavier weights than you, outrun you and in a ring he would probably waste you.

    Blacks ON AVERAGE are more powerful than whites. There are exceptions. Eddie Murphy is not as tough as Dolph Lundgren of course.

    But no matter how hard a white man works he is not going to have the speed or toughness of a Mike Tyson.

  26. @Truth

    TRUTH

    I love these rednecks who never held a job overseas that paid more than twice minimum wage telling you, a six-figure earning black, what lousy workers African-Americans are.

    It is not how hard you work sadly, but what you are capable of doing and if it is lucrative.

    That is why Stormy Daniels did not work as a truckstop waitress until her back gave out in her poor white neighborhood. Anal penetration is more painful, but more lucrative than tips.

    Nobody will give anyone an award for being a hard worker who is a dedicated slave to their employer and company shareholders.

    The richest people in the world who had oil in their backyard or invented FACEBOOK barely worked at all.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @Truth
  27. MarkinLA says:
    @jeff stryker

    A white guy just won the 60 meter dash at the Millrose games. He is an ex football player.

  28. MarkinLA says:
    @jeff stryker

    The richest people in the world who had oil in their backyard or invented FACEBOOK barely worked at all.

    This may be the stupidest thing ever written. Getting any business off the ground involves a ton of work and usually paying very little until it breaks wide open.

  29. Truth says:
    @MarkinLA

    No, actually, Old Sport, Facebook is a CIA surveillance tool masquerading as a business, and Zuckerberg is an actor, nothing more.

    So probably not much work involved there.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  30. Truth says:
    @jeff stryker

    I love these rednecks who never held a job overseas that paid more than twice minimum wage telling you, a six-figure earning black, what lousy workers African-Americans are.

    Well thank you Jeff; I appreciate the kind sentiment.

    In total transparency, I must admit that I’m a little embarrassed to admit that I’ve never made over $94,000.

  31. Wally says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    except that:

    African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade, Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders’ ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
    “African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today.”

  32. How long can Coon Rapids, Minnesota last?

    Good luck pronouncing the renamed Lake Calhoun:

  33. @MarkinLA

    This may be the stupidest thing ever written. Getting any business off the ground involves a ton of work and usually paying very little until it breaks wide open.

    I thought you were on the side of labor.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  34. @jeff stryker

    Who would want to procreate with a fat-by 40 Polish Catholic girl whose maintenance is 10 x higher than an Asian woman plus not aging as well.

    You may be underestimating the cost of Asian girls’ maintenance:

  35. “The enraged young Neeson had gone out, presumably in London, looking for a random black man with the intent to kill him.”

    No. Neeson said he was hoping that some black would start something, so he could respond with lethal force.

    It’s an important distinction. Derb’s version makes it sound like Neeson intended to be the aggressor.

  36. @Truth

    Well he’s certainly got me beat.

  37. @jeff stryker

    Really? Did you go to school on the little yellow bus?
    Blacks are not powerfully built to WORK!! LMAO!!
    They are made to do violence to other blacketty blacks. Now that they’re here among us,guess what…

  38. @MarkinLA

    MARKIN

    You never visited the Arab Gulf. The richest guys I met there were Arabs in oil or construction whose workday consisted of maybe shuffling some papers around in their office 3 hours a day.

    The richest women in the US are either heiresses or whores willing to do anything like Stormy Daniels. She herself defended the sex industry by saying she would otherwise have died of poverty and starvation in her destitute Louisiana neighborhood.

    A few self-made millionaires go through some period of struggle-Ross Perot did; Henry Ford was broke at 40.

    But most of the wealthiest people in the US did not get their through sheer hard work. They were in the right place at the right time.

    Mark Zuckerberg for example.

    I have not worked as hard as some people I knew in Central Michigan in the Graphic Arts dept. I got lucky and moved to Dubai and found a niche when I was young.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  39. @Truth

    No, I didn’t sprain my shoulder. Stating that one can and has outworked black men isn’t that noteworthy an accomplishment. It is of little more significance than saying that one is confident that he is superior to black men at math.

    Note that I said “over the course of my life” or “a” life. You and Jeff Stryker make the same mistake. You note that a black kid or man is strong and from that generalize that he will work long, steady and hard throughout his entire life. But we know better. It’s simple numbers.

    Over 50% of black youth are unemployed so they don’t get any work done. A third of black men spend a significant portion of their lives in jail so they don’t get any work done. Pro athletes aren’t known for their post career accomplishments so they don’t get much work done. Most black men waste themselves with drink and drugs, become physical wrecks by their forties so they don’t get any work done in the latter half of their lives. Black men are programmed to live a more condensed life, by the time they’re 60, they’re washed up, burnt out husks. White men can work hard into their seventies.

    When was the last time you saw a black man up on a ladder painting his house? Cleaning out his gutters? Shingling a roof? Digging a trench to bury a cable in his yard or run a new septic line to a toilet in an outbuilding? Building an addition on his house? Excavating by hand, building forms and pouring a slab in his yard? Pulling an engine from a car or truck and completely tearing it down and rebuilding it? Replacing a transmission or differential in a truck? Rotating his tires? Changing the oil? Building a boat? Building a home from scratch?

    I know five white guys who have built homes–normal sized ones, not sheds–from scratch, needing help only on concrete days and to set trusses. In addition to their workloads these guys are also serious competitive athletes–one qualified for an Olympic trials. You and I run in different circles. We have different definitions of what work is.

    • Replies: @Truth
  40. @jeff stryker

    See my response to Truth, above.

  41. MarkinLA says:
    @jeff stryker

    Your personal anecdotes are worthless. I know people who worked at tech startups and they work long hours with NO guarantee they will be successful. Comparing that to Arab oil sheiks is ridiculous.

  42. Truth says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Well, nice feminine-emotional response there.

    But again, Old Sport, I stick to logic.

    You said that you have outworked EVERY ONE of 500 million black men on this planet. You are therefore giving yourself the credit of having outworked EVERY ONE of 1/7th of the world’s population (and I might add, congratulations to you for having never watched a television show, gone to a movie, or read a book).

    Now, I know a lot of very lazy white men, I saw two homeless white guys on the way to work today, therefore, again, if you have outworked EVERY black man on the planet, on what percentile of work ethic are you amongst white guys?

  43. MarkinLA says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I am but I just want labor to get a fair deal. I want the business to pay the full freight to society of it’s employees. They should not be subsidized by the taxpayer in any way. If the company is offering stock options, it should be handed out in some way to everybody and fairly according to his contribution to the companies success and not just looting the corporate treasury for the top executives (especially not for publicly traded stock companies).

    However, people creating businesses deserve to make the big bucks if their business succeeds.

  44. MarkinLA says:
    @Truth

    Nobody posting here has made the case as often as I that both Google and Facebook are government surveillance ops using their legitimate business as a cover. However, Zuckerberg worked his ass off when he was coding at Harvard. Many of those tech companies in Silicon Valley are well known as sweat shops – extremely well paying sweat shops but sweat shops none the less. 40 hour weeks do not exist there.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @jeff stryker
  45. Truth says:
    @MarkinLA

    However, Zuckerberg worked his ass off when he was coding at Harvard.

    #alltheatre.

  46. @ThreeCranes

    The ones brought here were pampered under a system that protected them from the rigors of Darwinian competition. When they are not protected by a system which grants them special dispensations and privileges, they die off. Slavery protected them then; liberal State-sponsored transfer payments do so today.

    The Virginia lawyer George Fitzhugh (1806-1881) made such an argument. He wrote in Sociology for the South, or, the Failure of Free Society (1854) that:

    “Slavery is a form, and the very best form, of socialism… Socialism… proposes to do away with free competition; to afford protection and support at all times to the laboring class; to bring about, at least, a qualified community of property, and to associate labor. All these purposes, slavery fully and perfectly attains. … Socialism is already slavery in all save the master … Our only quarrel with Socialism is, that it will not honestly admit that it owes its recent revival to the failure of universal liberty, and is seeking to bring about slavery again in some form.”

    We may at least agree that slavery is a form of socialism, and the converse is also true – socialism is slavery, as Fitzhugh observes, in all save the master.

  47. Svigor says:
    @WorkingClass

    A whole month devoted to Minstrel Shows.

  48. Forbes says:
    @Joe Doakes

    The fact that White people feel obligated to tell us they offended by things that don’t offend actual Black people, is just weird. … The people who have standing to complain don’t complain, and the people who complain lack standing to complain. So why do we listen to them?

    Exactly.

  49. @jeff stryker

    “If” there’s Mongol in Eastern European women, why didn’t you marry a “Mongol” Eastern European woman? You went to Asia to marry a Chinese woman. You could have moved to Eastern Europe with your faux Mongolian woman and remained a Western male. You are a complete degenerate.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @lou
  50. @Truth

    LOL!!! Derbyshire is getting more inane each passing day. Did you see Jeff Stryker’s response? He scribbles something about Eastern European women having Mongolian genes. He could have married an Eastern European “Mongolian” and lived in Eastern Europe with a nice “Mongolian” family.

    But, no, he moves to Asia and marries a Chinese woman. As I always state, when a Western male gets involved with Asian poontang, he’s a goner. He and the woman need to be repatriated to Asia.

    • Replies: @jimmy
  51. @Truth

    If we apply the strictest definition of work, i.e. moving a weight through a distance, then of course, we must include athletics in our computations. This from the Clear Gear website:

    “On average, a competitive game of basketball burns about 650 calories per hour.”

    “Football players burn an average of 735 calories per hour.”

    “an hour of vigorous ice-skating can burn up to 735 calories.”

    “swimming is a grueling workout that burns an average of 899 calories per hour!”

    “Boxing is an amazing workout that allows you to burn up to 981 calories per hour…..A boxer during a boxing match burns about 981 calories”

    “A person that performs an uphill cross-country ski race will burn an enormous 1348 calories per hour. Skiing provides the ultimate sports-based workout.”

    Now its probably no coincidence that swimming, skating and cross country skiing are my favorite sports and that they burn as many or more calories than those in which blacks excel (those involving running and jumping). But it makes sense, no? That I would be attracted to the sports that impose the greatest workload? And I’ve been doing them religiously for almost 50 years.

    Now we know that by the time a black man is sixty years old, he is a physical and mental wreck; his body wracked by syphilis and AIDs, venereal warts and gonorrhea, his mind destroyed by booze, pot, cocaine and crack. Since his teens he has abused both body and mind so that his performance has diminished steadily with the years. He has been functioning at a limited mental and physical capacity for many years.

    Now you tell me how such a diminished individual could have possibly moved as much weight through a distance and accrued as many work hours as I have.

    You see? My claim is indisputable. I am the Greatest.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @lou
  52. Truth says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Very impressive, Old Sport. Your intellect is…well…beyond description.

  53. “Very impressive, Old Sport. Your intellect is…well…beyond description.”

    Well, I wish I could say the same for yours.

    When I speak of a lifetime’s accomplishments you respond with videos of kids stealing petroleum. I talk of a cumulative total and you show me cross sections taken from different lives as though that were some kind of reasoned rebuttal.

    You’re reading comprehension skills are abysmal.

    • Replies: @Ludovici
  54. @attilathehen

    If I wanted to be with some Polish woman who’d be fat after 40 and have Western expectations I could have stayed in Michigan.

    Plus, the weather is cold and grey in Eastern Europe. Its Russia.

    Finally, while not as expensive as the US, Eastern Europe is more expensive than Asia.

  55. @MarkinLA

    MARKIN

    I’ve done short-term work in India in Graphic Arts dept. with IT and those Indians return to India rich men.

    Five years in Northern California and they return to India the equivalent of Bill Gates.

  56. Ludovici says:
    @ThreeCranes

    There’s not a black man in existence who has worked as hard as I have over the course of my life. My work load would kill any black man. They just don’t have the strength and stamina of which I am capable.”

    Reading this post made me sad. The amount of delusion you carry is just staggering.

    • Replies: @Truth
  57. Ludovici says:
    @ThreeCranes

    You’re reading comprehension skills are abysmal.”

    I know you’re a troll, you had me going until here. No human being is possibly this ignorant.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @ThreeCranes
  58. Truth says:
    @Ludovici

    There just aren’t enough words.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @ThreeCranes
  59. Truth says:
    @Ludovici

    No human being is possibly this ignorant.

    LOL, Stick around, Sir. You have a surprise coming.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  60. Biff says:
    @jeff stryker

    But no matter how hard a white man works he is not going to have the speed or toughness of a Mike Tyson.

    If spouting stupid shit was music you’d be a brass band. Tyson’s short carreer folded, crashed and burned as predicted by his early trainers. An equally sized Russian wrestler would mop the floor with Mike Tyson, and Russia makes them much bigger.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    , @lou
  61. @Truth

    TRUTH

    …And these hicks and rubes wonder why Jews control their life. It is funny because I have not been in the United States for years, but I can immediately I identify whose high school had a 4-H club.

    It takes me back to Central Michigan when I lived in the sticks of middle Michigan. Because I was from an average suburb-Ann Arbor-I was shocked at how thick and dense the rednecks were.

    I remember reflecting on the (At least) second world poverty of their wooden old houses and cheap apartments in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan. Their third-rate bars with peeling signs and fly-blown diners and “antique” furniture shops you would see in a thrift store.

    • Replies: @Humblenotry
  62. @Truth

    They’re arnt enuff wordz to illestraight how superier thez hicks and rubes are, TROOTH.

    It is why they moan about how Jews control their life with such ease with their Hollywood garbage.

    Also, it explains how they get hooked on Opoids.

    Because of their inherent greatness.

  63. @Biff

    Exactly. Any good college heavy weight wrestler would destroy Cassius Clay in a fair fight if each man were allowed to do what he did best.

  64. @Ludovici

    Don’t call me names. Just answer the questions. Have you ever seen a black man on a ladder?

    I drive through the neighborhood of my friends from the 1960’s. Back then it had been peaceful, prosperous shady lanes of working-class Catholic families, homes neat and tidy.

    Today those same homes are wrecks. The blacks moved in. Fences are half torn down, paint peeling, chunks of broken pavement lying about, shutters missing, nothing painted correctly, a portion of column holding up the front porch is missing for God’s sake. What the heck happened to that?! Overall, dismal wreckage. No black men on ladders.

    Race riots rocked the nation in 1967. Blacks did what they do best–destroy stuff. I realized even as a young teenager that the greatest threat to America and European civilization was not the VietCong, but the American black.

    Fred Reed and others like him made a terrible though understandable mistake. He didn’t need to fly halfway round the globe to South East Asia to find an enemy of the American Republic. There was a far more insidious one right in his own hometown.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  65. @Truth

    “There just aren’t enough words.”

    If you need help, I’ll remind you of some you used earlier. “Well, nice feminine-emotional response there.”

    That in response to my listing constructive endeavors which a man could lay claim to as evidence that he had accomplished much e.g. building a home, laying slabs, running piping and wires etc.

    As a black man these would be foreign to your lifestyle and so you respond to them the way unworldly little black ghetto kids do to anything beyond their ken, by poking fun at them.

    You see, “Truth” (a bit of overblown self inflation don’t you think? but typical of men of your subspecies) that’s your very problem. What a white man regards as manly, a colored man such as yourself regards as feminine. It goes back to your African roots where women did all the domestic chores and the men lay about all day getting high.

    We white men build homes and you blacks laugh at us as “feminine”. You colored men have your hair done up into little pig tails like a pickaninny and we white men laugh at you as feminine–little girls who let their mothers and girl friends “do” their hair.

    Why do your sports hero football players play dress up like little girls? Why don’t they climb ladders?

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    , @Truth
    , @Clyde
  66. @ThreeCranes

    Because their sports heroes pay white men to climb ladders. Or Mexicans, as the case may be.

    TRUTH earned $94,000 as a contractor in Kuwait and because I worked in the Gulf Arab states myself his story has the ring of truth to it.

    Blacks don’t tend to be homeowners. They would rather rent than own. Or have no choice because of income.

    I’ve known African-Americans in Philippines who designed their own homes (Only $50,000) there and they preferred to hire five or six Filipinos to do the work.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  67. @ThreeCranes

    African-Americans who own their own house will be more attentive. You are used to renters. Irish or Polish-Catholics USED to own those homes but moved to suburbs-selling cheap to blacks (Or Jews) who then rent them.

  68. Truth says:
    @ThreeCranes

    My Friend, there is a certain level of simple that I can respond to, and believe me I do it on this site all of the time. If one can’t meet that, I would say, rather low level, it’s pointless to each of us. No offense, but I just don’t think that you are capable.

    You have heard what they said about teaching a pig to sing.

  69. JimB says:
    @jeff stryker

    Who would want to procreate with a fat-by 40 Polish Catholic girl whose maintenance is 10 x higher than an Asian woman plus not aging as well.

    I’ll take the Nordic beauty of a 40-something Polish woman over an emoji faced Asian woman any day.

    • Replies: @Truth
  70. Truth says:
    @JimB

    …You’d be standing you yourself among this cohort, Jimbo.

  71. @jeff stryker

    “Because their sports heroes pay white men to climb ladders. Or Mexicans, as the case may be.”

    Exactly. You agree with me. To match the work output of a free, white male a pro-level Afro athlete must hire an Hispanic immigrant.

    “Blacks don’t tend to be homeowners.”

    True, and as you say, as non-stakeholders, blacks put out as little as they could get away with while white farmers, sailors, lumberjacks etc. worked their tails off under conditions that made southern slavery look like a Sunday picnic. It was common knowledge in the South that the work output of a slave was much lower than that of a free white man.

    The death toll of sailors on early expeditions was appalling, amounting to over half the crew in many cases. The work load was unbelievably hard, involving climbing ice-covered rigging and taking in frozen sails and so on. No Southern plantation owner ever drove his slaves so harshly as to have killed them in anything like the proportions seen on sailing ships manned by white men. In fact, quite the opposite! Slaves thrived! From an original 350,000 they had multiplied to 4,000,000 at the time of the Civil War, according to the 1860 census.

    Conrad wrote a story about a negro who signed on as crew aboard a square rigger entitled “The Niqqer of the Narcissus”. At the beginning of the voyage, the white men were obsequious to the black, thinking that because he was a big strapping guy he should therefore be a natural leader of men. But the black became ill and took to his bed, shirking his share of the labor. At first the whites were angry with him for not pulling his weight, thinking that he was faking sickness. But finally, realizing that he was truly ill, they became very solicitous towards him, indulging his every whim. They pampered him, he became their pet. (Sound familiar?) Finally, Conrad had the negro waste away, done in by his own lethargy.

    The niqqer chose to take to his bed and died because of it. This is the lesson for American blacks. It’s tempting to be seduced by the siren song of liberal handouts, but in the long run they will weaken you and be the death of you. Spiritually, you cannot be whole men as long as you are the recipient of liberal-white lady benevolence.

    Conrad is telling us that blacks must stop feigning illness, stop making excuses, get up off their sick beds and take their place among white men. Sadly, we know today that this isn’t going to happen. Black men have taken to the sick bed because they realize that they are incapable of working side by side with white men. They simply aren’t up to the job.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  72. Clyde says:
    @ThreeCranes

    lolz…. Your blistering commentary! And your other commentaries here.

  73. Unfortunately, the article is so cluttered and distracted by less relevant fare that the real story, that of actor Liam Neeson, gets lost.

    What was an open honest admission, entirely relevent to the role and life, in my view – something to be acknowledged as having integrity and something Dr. Will Ferrel (The Myth of Male Power) would applaud in comprehending “manliness”, “maleness” and the role of anger in the same. regardless of skin color is obliterated by nonsense.

    As if black men haven’t wanted some white person to cross their path in ill manner so they could give them a piece of their mind or something else as expiation for wrongs committed by whites. The response has been bitterly disappointing.

    God Speed Mr. Neeson — a very very very fine — actor by any measure.

    A man I think still grieves the loss of his wife and it shows, in my view constantly.

  74. One of the few cites I trust when it comes to anything regarding blacks

    home ownership.

    black home ownership is roughly 42 – 43% of the black population dropping several points, most likely from the 2007 — economic crisis.

    http://blackdemographics.com/households/housing/

  75. @ThreeCranes

    laughing. I thought I had seen it all. But turning a story about sea sickness into a color narrative about charity is funny.

    When in fact the story is don’t judge a book by its cover, as sea sickness will topple any man unacustomed to the journey and the task of sailing. You seem to have ignored your own observation:

    “The death toll of sailors on early expeditions was appalling, amounting to over half the crew in many cases. The work load was unbelievably hard, involving climbing ice-covered rigging and taking in frozen sails and so on.”

    Your end understanding of Conrad’s poignant telling, if accurate I don’t think you comprehend Conrad at all, if that is your take.

    good grief. I wouldn’t have believed if i had not read it, myself.

    oh, you think working the plantation was akin to a picnic compared to the labor of whites — I should have read that first.

    Never mind

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @ThreeCranes
  76. Truth says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    Like I said Bro., there just aren’t any words. And I chalk some of the really stupid shit here up to a kid trying to be funny, but I believe this gentleman is being serious.

  77. If you have no morality and can make $100,000 as a pimp, drug dealer or cog in the underground economy of the urban hellscape are you really going to throw this over to become a lumberjack!

    And how many blacks live in forestry regions of backwoods Oregon or Maine? They are urban people. The fact that they migrated North from sharecropping states indicated they did not want to work in primary industries like ranching or forestry.

    Neither do the Jews by the way. And they also can pay some white guy (Or Nicaraguan or whichever) to clean their septic tanks and gutters.

    The reason Jews play parlor game stock-market tricks or put on bread-and-circuses and blacks use brute force as athletes or criminals is that roofing (I did in college in Michigan winters) and plumbing and forestry are pretty thankless jobs that don’t pay well.

    And by the way, even if whites WANTED to replace Jews in Hollywood or Wall Street they would not be as adept at it. Even if white men wanted to make a living from gangsterism, they would not be able to like blacks.

  78. jimmy says:
    @attilathehen

    @atillathehen
    Just curious – what is so bad about a white guy marrying an Asian woman? I married an Asian woman. There’s definitely some cultural differences. some very challenging, but just am truly interested (in an open minded way) what you see as the negatives.

  79. @EliteCommInc.

    You are an idiot. And Truth is a scoundrel.

    To claim that Conrad’s story is about a man laid low by sea-sickness is laughable. Nowhere does Conrad attribute his indolence to any specific cause. You’re inventing that.

    The book is a novel. You take it too literally. It is a work of fiction, a metaphor. Every character is an archetype.

    Even as he boards the ship for roll call, the niqqer, James Wait, fakes a cough. The cough afflicting the niqqer symbolizes his flawed physical capacity. A niqqer looks good, looks powerful, but is flawed to the core; that’s what Conrad is telling us. Flawed right from the beginning of the voyage.

    Within a week Jimmy takes to his bed, claiming sickness. He guilt trips the crew with tales of his impending death. They can have no fun with him around. No music, jokes etc. as he is always reminding them of his travails. His presence is a curse the rest of the crew must bear. “We served him in bed with rage and humility…and he rewarded us by his unconciliating criticism.” Jimmy chides them, “Some of you haven’t sense enough to put a blanket shipshape over a sick man. There! Leave it alone! I can die anyhow!”

    The crew mistrusted him, thinking him a shirker. “To hear him speak sometimes you would never think there was anything wrong with that man.” and “The most prejudiced could perceive that he coughed, mostly, when it suited his purpose.”

    To rid themselves of his onerous presence, the crew transfered Jimmy’s berth to a private stateroom which they prepared for him. Conveniently located near the galley from which the cook could present Jimmy with specially prepared meals Conrad also tells us that Jimmy’s private room was “always full of tobacco smoke.” “He asked for paregoric. They sent him a big bottle; enough to poison a wilderness of babies.” so Jimmy could more comfortably while away his hours in an opium induced stupor. (Just as Jimmys do today!)

    Meanwhile, while the rest of the crew were miserably fighting a vicious storm, Jimmy “was dry and comfortable in his little cabin.”

    When they went to rescue Jimmy after the storm, “Jimmy kept up a distracting row; he screamed piercingly, without drawing breath, like a tortured woman…” Again, comparing a fully grown black male to a woman!

    The crew, freezing, huddled on the aslant deck the night after the storm, one man, reflecting on how if the captain had reduced sail, the ship would not have swamped says “the old man wouldn’t have it….much he cares for us, “ The bosun says “Why should he care for you? Are you a lot of women passengers to be taken care of? We are here to take care of the ship—and some of you ain’t up to that. What have you done so very smart to be taken care of?”

    So the crew of white men are held to a higher standard than is the niqqer. They are chided for worrying about their own comfort and putting it before the safety of the ship! The Captain tells them that such behavior is more appropriate to women (and, by implication niqqers).

    Donkin asks him “Yer ain’t sick—are yer?”

    ’No,” said Jimmy, firmly. “Been out of sorts now and again this year,” he mumbled with a sudden drop in his voice. Donkin closed one eye, amicable and confidential. He whispered:-“Ye ‘ave done this afore ‘aven’tchee?” Jimmy smiled—then as if unable to hold back he let himself go”—“Last ship—yes I was out of sort on the passage. See? It was easy. They paid me off in Calcutta, and the skipper made no bones about it either…. I got my money all right. Laid up fifty-eight days! The fools! O Lord! The fools! Paid right off.” He laughed spasmodically. Donkin chimed in giggling.

    “Don’t you let on too much,” admonished Jimmy. “Your little game? Eh?” Commented Donkin, jovially.

    Jimmy’s little game indeed. It’s plain that Conrad regards Jimmy (fulfilling his role as a symbol of all black men) as a woman. His game has turned into a self fulfilling prophesy. And how could it not? Lying on his back all day and night in what was basically an opium den while wrapped in a haze of tobacco smoke. He poisoned himself as he wallowed in his self pity while wasting away in his cloister.

    No, EliteCommInc. and Truth. You have been found out and exposed as frauds. You thought that you could buffalo me with your bluster, pretending to have read Conrad. But I don’t fake it. I can back up my contentions. Take this as a lesson. When you call my hand, you’ll find that I’m not bluffing. I will beat you every time. That’s the way it is between a white man like me and a Jimmy like yourself.

  80. @jimmy

    JIMMY

    De-regulation of the sexual marketplace and also the queasy fact that white males can easily abandon the US while white women are trapped and underneath it all, rely on white men to run the US.

    White men can divorce a white woman, move to Asia and live happily ever after-as I do. White women cannot and except for a few heiresses like Paris Hilton they are stuck in the US.

    White women expect white men to marry them, support them, pay the mortgage on a house, fight in wars, defend their homes and communities. If we did not, they would be screwed.

    Look what happens when whites families leave a city because of blacks. It crumbles into anarchic horror and the Asian merchants like the Koreans treat the black population like dogs.

    • Replies: @jimmy
  81. jimmy says:
    @jeff stryker

    What I’ve found with regards to my wife’s family is that they embody the values (hard work, focus on family, clean living, importance of education, etc.) that some White people (myself included) like to attribute to themselves when trying to explain Black/White disparities. But her family takes those virtues to a level that I don’t think most White people (myself included) do. Whether it’s because they are immigrants or due to the Asian culture/genetics, I’m not really sure.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  82. @ThreeCranes

    Laughing. I guess that ends the discussion that the moral of the story is not tend to a sailors sea sickness, because if he;’s black the charity will kill him.

    The stories of Joseph Conrad, do not dismiss the class issues regarding blacks. But your interpretation here has no justification, At the very best what you get is that blacks don’t make effective sailors, because they are unacustomed to life at sea.

    But even that is rebutted by history. We know that blacks traded with native americans, because native americans said so. The only way for blacks to have done would have been by sea. When the Brits, French, Portuguese(?) and Spain were battling for supremacy of the seas, those pesky blacks kept being a problem.

    Your description about the response to the new black sailor is the same response men would give to any man, to get them moving. Of course they admonished by comparing his behavior to a woman — the press for male prowess is often to use female pose. In essence, what they are saying is,

    “What are you some kind of sissy, momma’s boy.”

    Now as a man, I can tell you this manner of encouragement is not unique to sailors talking to blacks, but to any man of any color who might be considered — shirking their duty. And that duty contrary to the feminist and female rhetoric of today has always been toward — duty, sacrifice, honor, sacrifice, come hell or high water . . . in this case —

    to serve the ship.

    But it became apparent that the man was truly sick and sick such that no manner of aide could save his life. Moral of the story even big strong black guys can be felled by a life at see. And fall to the fate you yourself acknowledge visited men whose life was the sea — even white men. Uhhh, I make no claims to have read but snippets of Mr. Conrad’s work. I have some about Mr. Conrad, none of which would be required to understand the context of the tale you have misinterpreted.

    But again, if you think that plantation work was a picnic compared to the labors of the plantation owner — I fully understand your take away here.

    Hmmmm . . . about skin color I have no comment as it is irrelevant to comprehending what Mr Conrad wrote.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @ThreeCranes
  83. Truth says:
    @jimmy

    You mean other than dead-ending thousands of years of European heritage, destroying recessive light hair, and eye genes that will never return, and are unique to the European, having children they have a greater chance of growing up confused and not understanding where they fit into society, and implying to proud women who look, like you, including your mother and sisters that they are inferior to third-worlders?

    Aside from that Dawg, nothing, nothing at all, I’m with you, I just read you guys literature on other websites.

  84. @ThreeCranes

    Laughing.

    I think you mistake the content of the conversation . . . the man in question acknowledges that he was sick before, off and on . . . in otherwords, he can’t attend to a life of sailing. The attempt to elicit some manner of gamesmanship only elicits confirmation that well, I was sick on other occassions when sailing — this has happened before.

    If I were you, I would reread that story again.

    I think the conclusion: suggests that Mr. Donkin is the real scoundrel and he isn’t black. But that aisde, your attempt to manipulate the tale by parsing sections just falls short to your end.

  85. MarkinLA says:
    @jimmy

    Most Asians STILL live in countries where there is no or next to no social safety net. The only reliable safety net is your extended family. In the US multigenerational households were the norm. Industrialization and having to move for employment opportunities have help with that unraveling.

  86. MarkinLA says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    But even that is rebutted by history. We know that blacks traded with native americans, because native americans said so. The only way for blacks to have done would have been by sea. When the Brits, French, Portuguese(?) and Spain were battling for supremacy of the seas, those pesky blacks kept being a problem.

    I don’t think there is any physical evidence for this. At no time did Europeans encounter tribes from SubSaharan Africa with boats capable of ocean travel. There is a huge difference in marine architechture between river, coastal, and tran-oceanic watercraft. Nobody has ever excavated a wreck off the coast of the Americas and found it to be pre-Columbian nor African in origin, to my knowledge.

  87. @ThreeCranes

    I don’t think you have a clue what my skin color is. I never make use of color in this manner. In discussion regardless of the intensity, I make every effort to focus the issues. And in that to the rationale, content, and support being used.

    I have not proffered my skin color nor do make that an issue of the those I am in conversation with — I have intense disagreements with blacks, whites, browns, yellows, people of other nationalities: french, Mexican, Italians, Canadians, politics: liberals, democrats, socialists, libertarians, etc. I would like to press to the issues as opposed to even personality traits as I have found that to be far important than appearance

    You have no idea what my skin color is and unless someone has met me or seen a photo no else here does either. On rare occassion something may settle with me in such a way as to respond purely from my emotions, but that has not happened here, that I would brandish skin color as evidence of anything — it’s the argument, the issue . . . regardless of how I feel. I referenced skin color on two cites of three that I have routinely visited — I can recall no such time having done that here.

    And I generally rebuff the press on this cite as to relevance.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  88. “The astonishing thing to me is that so many whites have put up with this silly nonsense for so long”

    Viewed through the prism of antagonistic pleiotropy, this is less astonishing. What was once an enormous evolutionary advantage (ever expanding out-group kinship) has become a massive, and possibly fatal, liability. There’s also that thread of self-abnegation, self-mortification, a yearning for the void, that seems to plague the higher races and that is basically absent in more feral populations.

    As much as I would like to, I find it untenable to self-identify as a white nationalist or even white supremacist (seriously, at this point, why not?) as long as much of the European stock allows itself to be governed by a childless cat lady (Merkel) and a little French fried faggot with an Oedipal complex (Macron).

    Not to mention the feckless swaths of White ruminants consumed with pathological virtue signaling in this country, the ones who have to name every elementary school building after some Numinous Negro or another, even when the number of brown faces in their zip code can be counted on one hand.

    It’s this brand of WYPIPO, more than any minority, that arouses the deepest contempt. And that contempt, apparently is mutual. The latter, despite whatever dysfunctions may afflict them, have at least their basic survival instincts intact.

  89. @EliteCommInc.

    You are an idiot. A dissembling one at that.

    Straight from the text.

    “Donkin asks him “Yer ain’t sick—are yer?”

    ’No,” said Jimmy, firmly. “Been out of sorts now and again this year,” he mumbled with a sudden drop in his voice. Donkin closed one eye, amicable and confidential. He whispered:-“Ye ‘ave done this afore ‘aven’tchee?” Jimmy smiled—then as if unable to hold back he let himself go”—“Last ship—yes I was out of sort on the passage. See? It was easy. They paid me off in Calcutta, and the skipper made no bones about it either…. I got my money all right. Laid up fifty-eight days! The fools! O Lord! The fools! Paid right off.” He laughed spasmodically. Donkin chimed in giggling.

    “Don’t you let on too much,” admonished Jimmy. “Your little game? Eh?” Commented Donkin, jovially.”

  90. Black “History” Month is for praise:
    Cassius Clay, Beyonce, Willie Mays.
    Such articulate grace
    In our rhythmical race!
    (Thank Caesar, just 28 days.)

  91. @EliteCommInc.

    Sorry, EliteCommInc, for calling you an idiot in my previous response. Now that I’ve read your three comments I realize that you really are an idiot and it’s not my nature to make fun of handicapped people. Again, I apologize.

  92. @ThreeCranes

    one wonders whether you ever get to the end of a reading or you just attend to what you think will serve your argument. I hate to raise the issue — context matters.

    Further, the metaphor you claim is not about charity will lead to the death of the given in this case and you misread and misapply, blacks.

    But that their efforts are most likely the cause for ships capsize, that is just my very quick scan threw the text.

    I am going to stand where I came in based on the sections you present to your interpretation, which is far less about blacks than about the value of unity of purpose and effort to an overall goal and the consequence of losing sight of that.

    It sure has nothing to do with whites being harder working laborers more than blacks as a population — this black and these white men perhaps, in particular, about each pulling their weight to a common goal . . .

    As for the veracity and skill of whites fooling blacks, you get no argument from me that whites can be as duplicitous as anyone else in manipulating to get their way.

    Complaining about AA when whites are the primary beneficiaries, welfare which largely goes to whites, even if a more sizable portion of the black population is so entreated, sadly, I cannot think of a single programs that whites have not been able to siphon off the lions share of benefit.

    Look you are entitled to your view. But I just want you to know anyone who contends that life picking cotton was a veritable picnic compared to the work of whites, should be cautious about announcing their superior intellectual prowess. In all liklihood you are smarter than me —

    But the analysis here is flawed.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    , @ThreeCranes
  93. @ThreeCranes

    Now my next observations are certainly speculation. I just don’t know about Mr Conrad’s political and social ethos, to make it an argument of force to his stead.

    But I suspect that what Mr. Conrad is challenging is the larger expectations and demands assigned to the ethos of the

    “white man’s burden”.

    That the expectation to lift up all others, instruct all others, dismantle their societies to a common “goodly civilized and christian” model (via regime changes) could very well wreck the ship of state endangering everyone.

    If that is overall assessment here, the history of Great Britain’s colonial collapse where she took out and invested nothing back into the populace, save charity (such as there was) undermined Great Britain’s role as a global power. He may be far more astute than he is given credit for or what he himself understood.

  94. @EliteCommInc.

    Your simple-minded analysis would have it that the plot of the book is that a black man suffers from seasickness and dies at sea.

    If that were all there were to it, then there would be no reason to write a novel! Your’s would be a newspaper clipping–and a not particularly important one at that.

    A novel speaks in symbols. Each character stands for an archetype. Jimmy is the prototypical black person in a predominantly white society. He doesn’t fit in. He is–like most blacks in America–a slacker, a freeloader, dead weight. And, like blacks generally in pre-welfare America, he was shriveling up and blowing away.

    You may not be aware of it but there was a time not too long ago when it was predicted that the black race would disappear from the face of the globe. Then came welfare, Aid to Dependent children, Food and Medicine without borders and all the other transfer payments that support the black race. These reversed the decline in black population. However, Conrad was writing during the time in which it was thought that blacks would die off. See? Get it?

    How can you say that race was not an issue in Conrad’s plot when the very title of the book includes the word “Niqqer”?

    So, let’s review:

    A black man feigns an illness.

    He is relieved of all work duties.

    He is given a special billet.

    He is given special food, tailor-made by the cook.

    He is given an opiated soporific with which to numb himself into a permanent stupor.

    He is given unlimited access to tobacco which he smoke continuously. (out of the question for a man suffering from sea sickness, as your interpretation has it)

    At the height of the storm, after he is rescued by the white crew at great peril to themselves he shows his appreciation by berating them for having abandoned him. Then he takes credit for his own rescue. “We served him in bed with rage and humility…and he rewarded us by his unconciliating criticism.”

    “I am rather weak from lying up so long” he [Jimmy] said. Note: He did not say “from seasickness”.

    Concern for Jimmy divides the crew into those who believe he is really sick and those who believe he is a faker. Prompted by the Marx-preaching Donkin, the crew almost mutiny. After the aborted mutiny the Captain says; “Sorry for him—like you would be for a sick brute.”….”One lone black beggar amongst the lot of us….Well, let him die in peace. I am the master here after all. Let him be. He might have ben half a man once…”

    The Captain, not Jimmy is the master. In today’s world, we see again where attitude towards blacks is the divisive issue in our society and that those who would mutiny have fallen for the siren song of Marxist propaganda. Conrad is amazingly prescient here.

    Singleton, the old mariner says “You can’t help him; die he must.”…..”bringing all this head wind. Afraid. The sea will have her own.” The ship’s progress had stalled, the wind had died. She was becalmed for weeks due to the pernicious effect of having a malingering black man on board. This is symbolism! Not meant to be a literal statement concerning meteorology. Get it?

    “Jimmy was forgotten; no one thought of him, alone forward in his cabin, fighting great shadows, clinging to brazen lies, chuckling painfully over his transparent deceptions.”

    As soon as Jimmy died, the wind came up. Immediately the Captain called upon the crew to set sail, and the Narcissus enjoyed clear sailing all the way home.

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  95. @WorkingClass

    Because the leaves are turning red in your native Tierra del Fuego?

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  96. @EliteCommInc.

    No black slave ever worked as hard as an independent white farmer did. That’s just a fact. You don’t believe it? Buy a farm and work it with a mule. You’ll quickly learn what’s what. A slave cannot be driven as hard as a man will drive himself. You would know this if you had ever taken on the responsibility of being self sufficient. You’re just ignorant because you live a pampered life.

    I mean it. Go buy 20 acres and work them with the tools available to a 19th century pre-industrial revolution farmer. Support yourself and a family.

    Slaves were part of a well-oiled economic system. Their role was well defined, their personal risks minimal. They were fruitful and multiplied–at a rate faster than that of their white masters. An independent farmer on the other hand, was on his own. Failure meant death. Sickness meant death. A bad crop, too much rain, too little rain, Indian raids etc. Any of these meant death.

    You’ve fallen for the mythology. However, you can become an honest person by disabusing yourself of false notions and ascending to the Truth by taking on the experiment I’ve proposed above. C’mon, be honest for once in your life. Live the truth; don’t just palaver.

  97. MarkinLA says:
    @International Jew

    It is so entertaining watching the media turn a molehill into a mountain. Even more fun is watching the talking heads fall all over themselves to one-up each other on the exquisiteness of the Emperor’s new clothes.

  98. @ThreeCranes

    That’s some tortured understanding of the text. Again, you might want to read the entire text, not merely that which you can twist your notions of black labor capability.

    i have no doubt the story is a metaphor, not do I doubt it has symbolism. I explained what i thought it alluded to and why based on previous observations of the text you provide and some work on my own. Sure, you have repeated in detail what i described is the case concerning the dynamic, Though I challenge the notion about blacks as a whole dieing out. I tend to think that Conrad of referencing those who could not manage, not that all blacks would. if I recall Mr. Conrad was critical of how blacks were treated.

    Well, at least we have finally got you to admit the man was in fact seasick. And it is correct that the crew was troubled by his care — however, that description of being in a comfy cozy room is marred (not the symbolism) as the room was not comfy, and having drugged the sailor it provided no comfort — the reality juxtaposed against what some of the crew thought as they struggled topside. Maybe you didn’t know this but what is described is not uncommon in any given situation in which someone who should be of assistance is not.

    I suggest you actually read the entire text and note its conclusions. This has nothing to do with any juxtaposition of who is in charge. I understand why you would like that agenda, but that is not the case. There are two problems that undermine your integrity in this discussion

    1. The sailor was seriously ill and the issues on board are about the efforts to address his illness above the greater issues of the crew and the ships purpose -is that a metaphor for social relationships and group dynamics — I think so.

    2. Your attempt to make assessments about whites working hard than blacks is purely your invention – it is not the issue of the text, neither is the leadership issue. , save when the men discuss some manner of revolt — also not an uncommon motif among those whose life was the sea — with or without blacks on board. And here it’s mere talk and that talk is among the whites, and them alone. This text is not about the power dynamics between white and blacks. The sailor in question is all other members of the crew, a subordinate to the captain. It’s not hard to grasps why Mr Conrad chose a black. However, the story would have played out the same had the sailor been whites. And his death after such a long and tortured illness would be a relief —-

    Note, the events on the ship are concrete enough to be real, where the metaphor lies may be a matter of some discussion. However, your attempt to turn every seed line or event into a metaphor is tortured logic. As blacks were not a nonunique fixture aboard ships, and that as worthy of said pay as their efforts along their fellow crew members. It is highly unliklely that Mr Conrad an experienced sailor knowing used this story as a metaphor about black labor. And i suspect given his experience, he might look at you crossed eyed, at the suggestion that black labor was a labor of ease, compared the work of whites.

    Well, by golly gee wow . . . I must have remembered this critique from King Leopold’s ghost.

    http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Joseph_Conrad

    I am going to go a step further. Mr. Joseph Conrad would say your thoughts on his work are the result of a colonial mentality and everything that is wrong about the colonial intent on the African continent.

    I stand exactly where I came in and proceeded through —

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  99. The white shoes thing is really stupid.

    I have an all-white pair of Air Jordan sneakers that I obtained for a fraction of the retail price, and that I wear occasionally, though they are a bit narrow for my feet in spite of intensive stretching. These type of shoes are quite popular with black youth and black prisoners flock to buy cheap replicas from prison commissaries.

    The whole thing is stupid, if anyone does not already get it, because the words “black” and “white” with regard to human racial types do not literally mean black and white, but just refer to skin tones that are broadly speaking, or figuratively, dark-ish or pale-ish, so there is no need to think that other uses of the two adjectives for extremes of color or lack of color have anything to do with human racial types.

    For example, my black Labrador retriever Sally has jet black hair, but if you shave her, she has white skin. She is neither black nor white in human terms, she is what she is. Chess pieces are black and white and white goes first. This has nothing to do with human race or blacks being less favored.

    I have black shoes and I have white shoes. This has nothing to do with racial preferences.

    The Spanish word for black is “negro”. There is no need for the Spanish language to invent a new word for black in deference to the history of the word in the English language.

    A black sheep is a bit of a rarity, where most sheep are white, but the black sheep of the family has nothing to do with human racial differences.

    The keys of a piano are black and white, but the fact that the black keys are sharps and flats has nothing to do with human races.

    Dalmatians and penguins and skunks are black and white, but this has nothing to do with human races.

    The White House is so called because it is painted white, it has nothing to do with race.

    Black magic has nothing to do with negro spell making.

    White Christmas has nothing to do with race.

    Black and white movies, photographs, and television were in fact 50 shades of grey, but this had nothing to do with kinky sex.

    A black hole is not a black asshole.

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  100. @EliteCommInc.

    Yeah.

    The difference between you and I is that I’ve actually read The Niqqer of Narcissus twice while you’ve merely read summaries. Most recently I reread it the other evening just to test my memory of it. And my rereading gave me no reason to revise my original thesis. You should follow your own advice in which you bade me read it to the end. I believe your knowledge of it is limited to book reviews on Amazon and such and those are handcuffed by political correctness.

    As I said above, don’t try to bluff me. I’m holding very good cards. I do my homework. You, on the other hand are a bullish*tter. Your writing is semi-literate nonsense. But I don’t regret having engaged with you. As I said above, having done so did compel me to reread The Niqqer and so provided me the opportunity to rethink the issues it raises.

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  101. @Jonathan Mason

    In the past, I’ve heard black people complaining about such terms as black-hearted, black sheep, black hole, black out, black ice and black Friday as they see such terms as somehow derogatory towards their race even though (as you pointed out) it has absolutely nothing to do with anyone’s race or color.

    I said as much to a group of black coworkers who were carrying on about it one day but they insisted it had a negative meaning and “made them feel bad.” I then mentioned expressions such as how a company is said to be making a profit and doing well when the accounting books are “in the black.” I also mentioned the expression, “keep the tach in the black” which means in the safe zone as opposed to the danger zone. That seemed to excite them but they followed up with a complaint that the color white is never used to denote anything bad. I then mentioned the terms “white out” to denote a dangerous blizzard or foggy conditions making driving hazardous, “white water” to denote dangerous rapids, “white as a sheet” to denote intense fear or sickness and the fact that white is the color worn at Asian funerals. That too got them excited and babbling in a brainless manner.

    The bottom line was that when I stated that none of this had anything to do with anyone’s race or skin color and meant nothing, they didn’t like that at all and became really quiet, sulky and seemed angry. They wanted to use anything “black” to play the victim and wanted to use anything I’d mentioned that was white as a way to attack white people. Telling them that none of it had anything to do with the color of people’s skin or their race was akin to kicking a sacred cow in the face or popping a child’s balloon.

    You can’t fix stupid.

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  102. @ThreeCranes

    you are an interesting individual. Once you admit that something you base your premise on falls, the cards that you hold are no longer relevent. It doesn’t matter if you have read every chapter or a sigle paragraph. You also contend that once the sailor dies, that is all right with the world. That is just incorrect. There is relief, but that relief is undercut some no small amount of self recriminations about the entire episode. Not only was his death a socially violent event, his burial prolonged the the agony for the entire crew. The relief of his death brought very little comfort to the interpersonal dynamics of the crew.

    Again, you might actually want to reread the text.

    Your interpretation of that story is not helped by you repeated claims of having read a text you horribly misinterpret and do so in almost every way. I was going to leave the matter be — but the errors are just too vast and the contradictions between what you claim occurs and what actually occurs is too stark.

    In short, you just got it wrong and you get it wrong drastically. It might help to read something about the author. But you are so bent on an agenda, I am not sure it would help.

  103. The comprehension of the text is not only in the text itself, but is derived from grasping the subtext, which is in the tenor, the tone, the descriptions of scene, emotives, and atmosphere of not only what is written, but how it is written as well. You seem to have completely missed how the sailor in question impacted the entire crew. There’s a great scene in which the senior man aboard, essentially says, it’s good he’s dead and I knew he would die — but how he expresses those sentiments makes it plain — he was also affected and it that he was is expressed with irritation.

    His view is that of a man who has seen this all before more than once from his years at sea. And despite that it is clear by the how the text is written that even he was affected by the events in question. It’s a very powerful scene. And it completely stands in contrast to the arrival you attempt to picture.

    And in my view that is exactly the point. The breadth, depth and scope of the social and interpersonal metaphors are much richer than you seem to have grasped and little if any supports your expressed assessment about who’s in charge and black labor being a picnic compared to that of whites.

    I won’t respond further, not for lack of response, I just don’t have anything new that need further support my position.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  104. @EliteCommInc.

    “I won’t respond further, not for lack of response…”

    Well, okay buddy. Nice knowing you. Thanks for the enlightened conversation. I learned so much. Most of all, how to argue. You’ve taught me that much, what with your clear, concise reasoning. Drawing on actual quotes from the primary source you proceeded to develop your arguments with flawless logic and illuminating analogies. Had I not run up against your formidable mind, it would never have occurred to me that this was a simple story about a man suffering from Mal de Mer.

    I will always treasure this; “There’s a great scene in which the senior man aboard, essentially says, it’s good he’s dead and I knew he would die — but how he expresses those sentiments makes it plain — he was also affected and it that he was is expressed with irritation.” as a paragon of clarity.

    and this, this is particularly convincing ; “Your interpretation of that story is not helped by you repeated claims of having read a text you horribly misinterpret and do so in almost every way.” Aside from the fact that the conclusion is indistinguishable from the premise, this is one of the most persuasive arguments I’ve ever encountered.

    I owe you much. Am forever in your debt. A changed man. A–dare I say it–more learned man.

    On one thing we agree, and that is that, in your own inimitable words, “[you] just don’t have anything new that need further support [your] position.”

    Bravo and well said.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  105. @jimmy

    Truth gave a very good response. I know it’s weird, but I like the Caucasian West. Asians had nothing to do with the development of Western civilization. They are a second-tier race. I hope you live in Asia.

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  106. @Truth

    I want that aborgine’s house! And a young Christopher Atkins to share it with….

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  107. Truth says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    LOL. Yeah, it is a nice house.

    Christopher has held up pretty well for his age too. Rent “Swept Away” sometime. Not the Madonna version, the Italian version.

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  108. @attilathehen

    HEN

    Give me a break, a white girl like you has no choice but to make the most of it in the US. Theoretically you could probably have married some European guy and remained there because Polish girls have exquisite figures and high cheekbones in their youth (I deduce from your references that you are probably Polish Catholic).

    White men can go anywhere. You cannot build a life in Asia or outside of the US.

    White girls care about things white men do not. Like the sort of car they drive. The house they live in. The fine details. What is on television. Fashion. Whatever.

    White men are happy in a warm mild climate like Asia with a sex partner and a roof over our head. We are free of any scrutiny in Asia and can behave how we please. So we do.

    That is how little the US means to us. How little white men value the finer points of American life.r

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    , @Truth
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  109. @ThreeCranes

    I take that you find my comments to very specific events in the text discomfiting, Because they indicate exactly what I read and are now hiding behind some constant refrain of how you read the book.

    I considered indulging your complaint about a specific text references, particular the exchange between the author and the last sailor he encounters before going his own way, regarding of all things, that sailor who dies. Odd that one of the last sections comes back to that dead man, you claim has no impact on the crew once gone.

    But it’s an empty complaint.

  110. SKIP says:

    Shouldn’t the month of February be “Black histeria MUMPF”?

  111. SKIP says:
    @jeff stryker

    Please speak for yourself only.

  112. SKIP says:
    @Non PC Infidel

    Don’t worry about the “perpetually aggrieved” muslims and blacks, NOTHING will ever make them happy or satisfy their grievences except the death/extinction of White people and their own extinction would follow shortly…..such is the fate of parasites.

    • Replies: @Truth
  113. Gg Mo says:

    Clarence Weaver asks : Do I really need to be protected against rascists ?

  114. Truth says:
    @jeff stryker

    Polish girls have exquisite figures and high cheekbones in their youth

    Well that was nice of you Jeff.

    You see, contrary to what all of my friends say, I believe that if you start young enough and retain close ties to your fathers, and nuclear families, white people can actually get along.

  115. Truth says:
    @Rosamond Vincy

    Yea! One of my all-time favorites.

    After you have watched, you should make a movie review back to the board, maybe Unz will publish it. I think it will be very interesting.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  116. Truth says:
    @SKIP

    LMAO!

    muslims and blacks, NOTHING will ever make them happy or satisfy their grievences except the death/extinction of White people

    Well that would be an excellent start to the negotiations…OK, I just got off the phone with Louie and Al and are willing to come to the table now.

    But no deal unless you get rid of all that fuqqin’ country music before you go; I mean CD’s, DVDs, videotapes of the fuqqin’ Barbara Madell show, the whole kittenkaboodle, one big bonfire.

    Without that, no deal!

  117. Bernard says:

    So white sneakers are a trigger but the alabaster statue of Martin Luther King seemed like a good idea at the time.

    That’s an example of how things that seemed inoffensive yesterday, like Mary Poppins’ saying “Hottentot” are viewed differently today.

    That statue needs to be reclad in obsidion and right damn now!

  118. @Truth

    Will look for the original.

    I would never willingly watch anything with Madonna in it except for Desperately Seeking Susan, where the real dramatic/comedic requirements are carried by the rest of the cast.

  119. @jeff stryker

    Keep rationalizing your degeneracy…

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  120. @attilathehen

    ATTILA

    If I had married a white girl young my circumstances would be degenerate because I would never have had any money.

    In Dubai, which I fled the US for, there was no opportunity to marry a white woman.

    And better I moved to Dubai and held a decent job than married a poor white girl when I was young in Phoenix and lived in a trailer and sent my kids to a lousy public school because we had no money.

    If I had done that, my kids would probably be whiggers or meth addicts today. There is no way I’d have gotten the job in Phoenix that I got in Dubai.

    My friend Stanley from Flint got a Polish Catholic girl pregnant and dropped out of CMU and was trapped in Flint.

    Look at him now with his Slavic purity and no money to get out of the black ghetto of Flint.

  121. @jeff stryker

    Yeah sure. I lived in Ypsilanti. The uppity and very liberal Ann Arborites we’re not much fun either.

    Anyway it seems that the overlooked logic behind institutional racism in the US is justification for homicide. For example a black criminal holds up a store and the white clerk gives him the money. Then the criminal shoots the clerk to death. Completely unnecessary murder. The liberal establishment claims the criminal is a victim of institutional racism. The fourth generation American was guilty of racism unto death.

    It’s this very situation that is the root core of the definition of institutional racism in the US. This is a defense for the violently criminal non-white who victimizes others at liberty. Probably a repeat offender as well. It may have started with the criminal defense attorneys and worked it’s way up to the highest national establishment influences.

  122. It seems that the overlooked logic behind institutional racism in the US is justification for homicide. For example a black criminal holds up a store and the white clerk gives him the money. Then the criminal shoots the clerk to death. Completely unnecessary murder. The liberal establishment claims the criminal is a victim of institutional racism. The fourth generation American was guilty of racism unto death.
    It’s this very situation that is the root core of the definition of institutional racism in the US. This is a defense for the violently criminal non-white who victimizes others at liberty. Probably a repeat offender as well. It may have started with the criminal defense attorneys and worked it’s way up to the highest national establishment influences.

  123. lou says:
    @Biff

    An equally sized Russian wrestler would mop the floor with Mike Tyson, and Russia makes them much bigger.

    Assuming CC does nt get the first punch and break the guys jaw or knock him out.

    MMA showed how useless boxing-karate can be.

  124. lou says:
    @ThreeCranes

    The buzz is most died en-route. I dunno.

  125. lou says:
    @jeff stryker

    Being strong, as defined by ability to bench press is determined largely by BONE strength.
    That is why a 100 pound chimp can bench 400-600 pounds but very few trained powerlifters [on steroids] can. And NO 100 pound man can bench 600 pounds. check the records.

    One black footballer in the 1980s, with no training, first try, was able to bench 300 pounds.
    strong like oxe. at maybe 200 pound bodywt.

  126. lou says:
    @MarkinLA

    Zuck stole it. typical of a certain type of people.

  127. lou says:
    @attilathehen

    Jeff Stryker is the name of a gay pron star.
    wrt
    You are a complete degenerate.

  128. lou says:
    @ThreeCranes

    “On average, a competitive game of basketball burns about 650 calories per hour.”

    “Football players burn an average of 735 calories per hour.”

    Lots of Blacks in those 2.
    Blacks have dense bones, so dont do well in swimming, to my understanding.

  129. Kim says:

    “MMA showed how useless boxing-karate can be.”

    “useless” for what? Mowing the lawn?

    Of course, sarcasm aside, you mean “self defense”, right?

    We hear this so often, that MMA is somehow the best martial art for use in self defense situations. The one thing we never hear is an accompanying definition of what actually constitutes a self defense situation. And if you ask for a definition, all you get in reply is a confused defensiveness.

    Fact of the matter? What happens in sportfighting has very little to do with what happens in self defense situations. They are very different skill sets and require different types of training.

    There are four characteristics that define a self defense situation:

    1. One of the participants is *unwilling* or *unwitting* (e.g., he think she is getting into a “fair fight” when he goes out to the car park but of course he isn’t.)

    2. Self defense situations are always planned to be *unfair*: young on old, multiple on one, big on small, skilled on unskilled, ambushing (there are no bells rung or waiting until the other guy is “ready”), etc

    3. There is always escalation – body language, threats and warnings of indeterminate length and ceremony – and an initial entry (attack) that may come with no warning (this sets self defense situations apart from mere assaults, where there is no warning at all) and indeed may be cover for an ambush by another attacker

    4. The participants cannot be confident that they will not die – accidentally or deliberately – as a result of this activity. Concrete is very hard when the back of your head hits it.

    Okay, there is a thoughtful definition of self defense situations. The question now is whether the attitudes, techniques, skill sets, and training scenarios of an MMA class provide an optimal basis for preparing for self defense situations.

    The answer? *No, no they don’t.*

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