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Steve Sailer captured post-1965 U.S. grand strategy very neatly with his phrase “invade the world, invite the world.”It’s the inviting that we mainly concentrate on here at VDARE.com, but the invading is worth citizens’ attention, too. As Steve’s phrase suggests, the two things are not unconnected.

We have done an awful lot of invading this past half-century, most of it to no point at all, and at a cost of thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars.

Candidate Donald Trump on the 2016 campaign trail seemed to get the futility of it all. He talked of bringing our troops home, advised South Korea to nuke up, said we should withdraw from NATO and shut down our missionary wars in the Middle East.

Millions of us responded eagerly to all that, as we did to his talk of bringing order to our immigration system. That’s how Trump got elected.

Two years later, very little has actually been done on either clause of Steve’s phrase. We’re still inviting the world on a huge scale, a scale that makes sense only to cheap-labor lobbyists and anti-white ethnic ideologues. And yes, we’re still invading the world. We’re still in NATO; we still have 26,000 troops in Korea; our war in Afghanistan is in its eighteenth year, with one-eighth of the country under enemy control and one-third “contested.” [Taliban control of Afghanistan on the rise, US inspector says, by Kara Fox, CNN, November 8, 2018]

The President, in that careless, half-hearted way he has, threw us a small bone last week by announcing that we would withdraw all our troops from Syria and half from Afghanistan. The news is welcome, but it’s way too little.

Why is Trump so half-hearted, so timid?

Did you ever think you’d hear the words “Trump” and “timid” in the same sentence?

I don’t know how else to describe the President’s actions, though. I long to see him throw down gauntlets, challengethe Executive apparatchiks, the Congressional seat-warmers, the puffed-up Judiciary.

There are so many gauntlets he could throw down. Just at random from this week’s browsing: A long, closely-argued piece on the CIS website by immigration wonk Andrew Arthur making the case that Trump can, by himself, make E-Verify mandatory. Quote: “All that it requires is the will, and 60 days’ notice before implementation.” [Could the President Mandate E-Verify? Probably — IRCA is looser than you might think, December 28, 2018]

Where’s the will, Mr. President? Sure, the congresscritters will screech and the Leftist judges will frown; perhaps they could stop what you’re trying to do. The only way to find out is to try doing it—to throw down the gauntlet.

So thanks for the Syria bone, Mr. President. Could you now try something big, something bold, even if it makes Ivanka cry?

F.H. Buckley (no relation!) just had a good column on the withdrawal from Syria, pointing out that in all these stupid, futile interventions we have had help from local people who saw us as on their side, and put themselves in danger to help us [Trump may have gone too far by abandoning the Kurds, New York Post, December 27, 2018]

When we pull out our troops—Buckley is speaking specifically of Syria, and the Kurds—we are leaving those allies to their fate, which may not be a happy one.

But, as Buckley points out, we’ve been here before. After Vietnam fell in 1975 we admitted hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese. A lot of them just didn’t want to live under Communism, but some significant proportion—I’d like to see an estimate of that proportion, though I never have—had actively helped us in South Vietnam and were in real danger.

There are people in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria today in that same position. Notably so are the Kurds of northern Syria who have actually been fighting alongside American troops against ISIS. The Kurds face hostility not only from the Syrian government, but also from Turkey, which has a longstanding policy of crushing Kurdish separatism.

The situation of the Kurds is tragic to be sure, and they attach a nontrivial moral issue to our withdrawal from Syria. I mean them no disrespect—in a world ordered by me, they’d have their own country.

That said, I could not help but smile when reading the December 20th Washington Post story about the Kurds’ reaction to Trump’s decision. Longish quote:

The decision represented yet another setback to Kurdish aspirations for some form of statehood, which have repeatedly met disappointment at the hands of the United States. The letdowns began after President Woodrow Wilson pushed for but failed to secure a separate Kurdish state at the 1919 peace conference following World War I, which drew the borders of the modern Middle East.

Kurds say the hopes they have since placed in the United States have continued to be dashed. In 1975, the United States abandoned support for a Kurdish uprising in Iraq after President Saddam Hussein struck a deal with their ally, the Shah of Iran. In 1991, President George H.W. Bush encouraged Iraqis to rise up against Saddam, but when Kurds in the north and Shiite Arabs in the south responded to the call, the U.S. military refrained from going to their aid. Most recently, the Trump administration last year withheld support for an independence referendum in Iraqi Kurdistan, and Iraqi troops rolled unopposed into areas the Kurds had controlled. [This time, the United States is betraying more than just the Kurds, allies say , By Liz Sly, December 20, 2018. Emphasis added]

Again, I don’t wish to be unkind, and this smile I’m sporting is a grim one; but given that we’ve been letting them downsince 1919—that’s a hundred years, guys—it’s kind of amazing that any Kurds still trust us.

Yes, we should pull out of all these places, while swearing a solemn national oath that any future wars we fight abroad will be won quickly, not lost slowly.

And I can’t believe it is beyond our abilities to identify people with a clear claim on our sympathies, and offer them asylum as we pull out.

That’s what asylum should be for. Instead we’re handing it out to hundreds of thousands of liars and crooks from Central America, carefully coached by the people-smugglers with tales of violence and danger.

If these parasites and scofflaws continue to get asylum while we refuse it to Kurds and Afghans who have actually fought alongside us, that would be a monstrous national disgrace.

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John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by VDARE.com com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

For years he’s been podcasting at Radio Derb, now available at VDARE.com for no charge. His writings are archived at JohnDerbyshire.com.

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  1. If the United States owes the Kurds anything (a proposition that I’m not prepared to concede) it is only to find them some other place in which to live outside the United States. The Hmong (montagnards) backed the U.S. side in the Vietnam War and I don’t think their relocation into the United States has been successful. The number of genuine asylum seekers can probably be numbered on the fingers of two hands with fingers left over.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  2. llloyd says: • Website

    Most everyone in the Middle East agrees the Kurds are a pain in the ass. Their men want to stand around with guns all day instead of getting a real job. They are extremely racist to their neighbours without as far as I can see deserving to be thought superior. It seems to be all based on their Mede ancestry which gives some a Nordic appearance. Having lived in Kurdistan, I can vouch many Kurds agree with their neighbours’ opinion of them. Many Kurds actually loved Saddham Hussein. He used to dress in a Kurdish native costume and go door to door in Kurdistan, delivering household goods.

    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
    , @Anon
  3. swamped says:

    “we should pull out of all these places, while swearing a solemn national oath that any future wars we fight abroad will be won quickly, not lost slowly.”…that ‘oath’ has been sworn too often before e.g. “shock and awe” & never fulfilled. That’s how wars are sold. Most Kurds don’t want asylum, they want their own state; which is a great invite to another disastrous U.S. war abroad that would surely be lost very slowly. Take it up with the UN.

  4. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    “We have done an awful lot of invading this past half-century, most of it to no point at all, and at a cost of thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars.”

    I haven’t read anything from Mr. Derbyshire in a while, but the headline made me want to confirm that he’s still a loyal little flag waver when it comes to the military.

    Although this column advocates mildly dialing back the military aspect of the American Empire, the Buchananesque identification with Uncle Sam (“We”) and disregard for the millions of non-American lives destroyed by the armed forces of “Derb’s” adopted state are just what the Establishment loves from this self-proclaimed voice of the “Dissident Right.”

    Critically thinking Americans are figuring out that Big War not only does nothing for them, but is a national disgrace. If he wants not to be left behind, Mr. Derbyshire should probably stick to the racebait.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  5. David says:

    I think this author once said that if there’s a civil war in your country, you shouldn’t expect to move to the US. Instead, you should get a gun and pick a side. When he said that, what did he expect to happen to the poor fools who picked the losing side? It appears he expected us to welcome them to the US.

  6. anon[208] • Disclaimer says:

    The Kurds lead the World in https://ekurd.net/related-articles/honor-killings-in-kurdish-society, and that’s all anyone really needs to know about them.
    Want Kurdistan in America?
    Simple, import Kurds.

  7. @llloyd

    Don’t forget misogyny and FGM.

  8. TG says:

    I disagree. We don’t owe the Kurds anything.

    They Kurds have more children than they can support, they are a pain in the posterior for Turkey, and they made a temporary alliance of convenience with the United States in a pointless conflict that had nothing to do with us. Let them solve their own problems. Let them give Turkey a reason not to fear them, now there’s a concept.

    There are so many excuses to let in all these third-world refugees – oh they are so cute, oh they fought on our side, yada yada. If people did nominally fight on ‘our’ side it was for their own selfish reasons not any love for us. If it didn’t work out for them, too bad.

    And as far as the Vietnamese refugees go: we will never know, but I would not be surprised at all if a majority of these refugees that we let into the United States were actually working for the communists. How could we tell? And why, one wonders, would the communist government give all these anti-communists the boon of immigrating to the United States, anyhow? Why wouldn’t they reward their friends instead?

    So if we were to side with India in a war against China, and India loses, we are then obligated to allow 1.4 billion Indians to move here? No, I don’t think it should work like that.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @EliteCommInc.
  9. anon[138] • Disclaimer says:

    let israel take in their kurdish allies

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @RudyM
  10. Kirt says:

    The Kurds fought against ISIS because ISIS attacked them, not to be doing the US a favor. At present, the Syrian Kurds of the YPG have already cut a deal with Assad, the Turks have “postponed” their threatened invasion (maybe cancelled it), the jihadists, except for the most fanatic, are negotiating surrender, and the Russians are using their diplomatic good will to smooth ruffled feathers all around. There’s unlikely to be a new refugee crisis; indeed refugees are already returning. Trump orders the pull out of US forces and peace starts breaking out all around. The horror! The horror!

  11. China is not our ally. Fortunately, Trump will start expelling Chinese “students” in the USA. The Chinese are parasites. All they do is try to steal our technology since they are too stupid to create anything novel. Their thievery will get them nowhere.

    Derbyshire, since you have a Chinese family, you and they are not an ally of the America. It is time for you and your family to move to China.

  12. Rich says:

    The US is overrun with refugees, illegal aliens, legal aliens and morons. Enough. Close the door, run the illegals out, severely limit legal immigration and end dual citizenship. Wasn’t their a candidate in the repub primary who said he was going to do all this?

    • Replies: @Ilsashewolf
  13. SafeNow says:

    Southern California here again. While we are trying to fix our immigration problem, I suggest we hand-out free bungee cords so that we have fewer “mattress in lane” gigantic traffic tie-ups. We already have free everything else.

  14. renfro says:
    @anon

    let israel take in their kurdish allies

    Exactly. The Israelis adopted the Kurds because of the territory (oil route) the Kurds wanted to claim and were in the Kurds section of Iraq training them when we were in Iraq in 2003.
    The Israelis suckered the Kurds into the ISIS fight and at the same time Israel hoped ISIS and the Syrian rebels would bring down Syria.
    Israel suckers a lot of people with the promise of what Israel can get the US to do for them.

  15. EldnaYm says:

    The Kurds are themselves notorious for frequently switching sides in conflicts, no one should take seriously these sob stories about Kurds being betrayed. When they are not busy fighting other groups in the Middle East, they are engaged in clannish infighting. Let’s also not forget the Kurd’s enthusiastic participation in the Armenian genocide, or multiple massacres against Assyrians, even without any state encouraging them to do so. They have no historical claim to any of the land they are calling Kurdistan. Not one Kurd should be allowed entry into the U.S., they are already a problem in Germany. Like pretty much every other group in the Middle East, including the Israelis, the Kurds are foes.

    If the Arabs were not such pugnacious boneheads, they would have scattered the Kurds a long time ago to the mountains of the Caucasus, Afghanistan, and Iran, to quarrel with the numerous other obscure ethnic groups. There are over 30 million of them now, so they are likely to remain a problem in the region for years to come.

  16. Bliss says:

    Worth remembering: the Kurds did much of the killing and looting for their Turkish overlords during the Armenian Genocide a century ago. A good chunk of the land they claim as Kurdistan was taken from Armenians.

    The Kurds were behaving like ISIS then:

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/04/14/armenian-genocide-was-also-jihad/Aq1zTutJ73IJWRnlG8V6lN/story.html

  17. MBlanc46 says:

    I’m sorry that the Kurds don’t have their own country. But it’s nothing to do with me or any other living American. If they got into a war in Syria because they thought that the US would back them to the end, despite forty years of evidence to the contrary, they made a serious error. Errors have consequences, and the Kurds will just have to bear the consequences of their error.

    • Replies: @Neuday
  18. APilgrim says:

    The Kurds have rebounded quickly.

    Syria’s Kurds, Feeling Betrayed by the U.S., Ask Assad Government for Protection, BEIRUT, Lebanon, By Ben Hubbard, Dec. 28, 2018, https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/28/world/middleeast/syria-kurds-turkey-manbij.html

    American-backed Kurdish People’s Protection Units, or Y.P.G., said the Syrian government should send troops to the city of Manbij, near the Turkish border. The request amounted to a United States ally calling on an enemy of the United States to protect it from another American ally, Turkey. The Kurdish militias are regarded by Turkey as dangerous, autonomy-minded insurgents. The United States regards them as valuable partners in helping rout Islamic State extremists from Syria — the original purpose of the American military deployment four years ago. Although the American troops in Syria number only about 2,000, they have been a deterrent to an assault on the Kurdish militias by the Turks. The American presence also discouraged Mr. Assad’s forces from sweeping into the area even as they retook major areas elsewhere from anti-government fighters, often with the support of Russia and Iran.

  19. Ahoy says:

    @ Rich #12

    Well said. Bravo! You are a patriot.

  20. james200 says:

    So, where are the asylum seekers from Latin and Central America?

    Even DemocracyNow! (really DemocratsNow!), which is a very pro immigrants rights show, which has been covering the caravan since it began its’ long journey several weeks ago, has not produced a single interview showing any of these immigrants be “asylum seekers”.

    Unless I missed something, everyone DM has interviewed says they are coming here for employment.

    Surely, one would think such a pro immigrants rights show like DM would make the case for asylum seekers by interviewing genuine asylum seekers.

    The truth is the majority of these people are coming here for employment. In doing so they are helping to drive down the wages of America’s poorest working people.

  21. I read the article, but as I scrolled down I was distracted by a thumbnail of a guy wearing a gimp mask.

    TRENDING NOW
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    An inside peek at the erotic New Year’s Eve ‘Illuminati Ball’

    Attendees, who are shelling out $200 to $400 per ticket, are coming “from all over the world — Amsterdam, Germany, Australia,” … We have people flying in just for this

    At the Dec. 31 bash, there will be a human “cake” — with a model’s face, hands and feet sticking out of a body-shaped dessert

    the New Year’s Eve story centers around “human-animal hybrids who have escaped a lab,”

  22. F.H. Buckley

    In 2013 Buckley wrote a column in the Wall Street Journal opposing bike lanes on King Street in Alexandria, Virginia. … In 2014, he characterized his neighbors who supported the bike lanes as “Vichyite collaborators.”

  23. Uhhhhhhhhhh nope.

    The problem her is many-fold.

    The first is that the Kurdish people have not given themselves over to a ethos about which they agree. The international community previously set aside territory for Kurdish state. The venture fell apart because of insider Kurdish disputes.

    The second is a matter of trust.

    Pres Hussein provided protection and safe harbor from Turkey and the Kurdish attempted to kill him twice in rebellions:

    — Iran-Iraq war
    — the first gulf conflict
    This suggests a lack of appreciation for support and a self surviving mechanism that espouses situational loyalty. In other words, the Kurds are into life for themselves, not really any mutually shared polity or social welfare — hardly an ethic I want to invite into the country. We have plenty of our own selfishness to manage right on out front and back porches.

    Third the Kurds seem prone to take risks beyond reason.

    Fourth, the Kurds tend to self survival seems toi have worked for them pretty well, where they are. And while I might agree they are entitled to some support as their attempted revolution did have our hand in play, it would be at least polite to get some assurances that there will be no reprisals for their role in death and mayhem.

    I think that we could provide effective assistance without inviting the world. And the comparison to what occurred in 1975 Vietnam is over the top. We helped secure a South Vietnam. And then after that hard fought victory, the new admin. had not the gumption to see it threw. And that is to our shame. All those peace loving North Vietnamese bent soul cleansing their supposed “beloved brethern and sisters by slicing their throats in purging the old for the new — .

    An interesting side note: for most of Vietnam’s history — it was never a untied kingdom/country. The battles between north and south were not new or unique by the time or after the time of the french occupation. Another falsehood uncovered by a peek at history.

    Comparing the 1975 collapse to the Kurdish political manuverings has no weight. toward importing a single one.

  24. Neuday says:
    @MBlanc46

    I’m sorry the Kurds don’t have their own country. As an American, I know how that feels.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  25. John

    0 Kurds…..

    And 0 amount of the late Police Officer Singhs People…Sihks……

  26. Anon[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @llloyd

    They are extremely racist to their neighbours

    So?

    Who are the neighbors of the Kurds? The Turks and Arabs. How do you think that these populations arrived in and came to dominate in the region? Ethnic cleansing. The Kurds represent the the most staunch and successful holdouts from the populations that were there prior to the Arabs and Turks. That’s a result of your so called racism. Their heritage is their hidden and true political significance in the region.

    without as far as I can see deserving to be thought superior.

    To Turks and Arabs? Really?

    The Kurds are out-mixed to a degree, likely much do to historical forced out-breeding to include Arab and Turkish rape, but their remaining heritage is definitely superior to that of their neighbors. Remember, they are stateless. You cannot compare their behavior to those who are allowed self determination.

    It seems to be all based on their Mede ancestry which gives some a Nordic appearance.

    Mede? As in Median? Well, that’s correct. Which other local names does this ancestry fall under? It gives Nordic appearance because it is Nordic.

    Read your Bible and map its geography to the modern region.

    Don’t worry, Unz readers. The Kurds largely will not be offered asylum in the West. Not because they wouldn’t be better than the rest of the trash we allow into even our deepest ethnic sanctuaries. Not because they wouldn’t qualify. Not because we are already overwhelmed.

    The Kurds will not be offered large scale asylum in the West because they serve a specific geopolitical function in the modern Near East.

    To relocate them somewhere else would be to eliminate their task: which is to act as a heritage possessor of land in the region, as well as a petty harasser of the Arabs and Turks. They act as a blockade, pawns, and substrate for every manner of excuse to reposition ourselves in the region.

    There isn’t the remotest motivation to remove them from the region on any meaningful scale. That’s before we would get to the fact that they largely don’t have that motivation themselves: one that makes them particularly valuable to us there.

  27. @Rich

    Very strongly put Rich. I think that with you as a counselor, together we can leave this Wolkenkuckucksheim, er, Fascinating theoretical framework, and initiate a much more direct style of communication with our Leader, Mr Trump. 



  28. @anonymous

    Critically thinking Americans are figuring out that Big War not only does nothing for them, but is a national disgrace.

    That’s been true for over 200 years.

  29. It’s bad enough that the American taxpayer is on the hook for the American thugs who perpetrate the regimes war crimes.
    No way in hell should that be expanded to include foreigners.

  30. The National Review=The CUCKHOLDERY Review

  31. The mass importation of Kurds into America=TURDISTAN “AMERICA”…

    Post-1965 America=Turdistan

    Turdistani American

  32. How did a 90 percent NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICA RACIAL MAJORITY within the borders of America……..become a White Racial Foreigner….White Racial Minority at 8 o’clock PM on Nov 3 2020 within the borders of America?

    Answer:The low wage labor policy of the WHITE LIBERAL GREEDY CHEATING BILLIONAIRE OLIGARCH CLASS….

    Nov 3 2020….rule by Turdistan….

  33. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:

    Kurdish refugees to the West are also heavily involved in organized crime in Western cities. FGM and honour killings and with that old sweet song of jihad on his mind; screw the Kurd.

  34. And this is a fact:Senator John F Kennedy was directly responsible for bringing Barack Obama sr. into our America…..LEGALLY…..

    According to Wood Holes Marine Biologists….The Martha Vineyard population of Atlantic Blue Crabs enjoyed their dinner of JFK jr. and his French Whore Wife Caroline Bisset with cornbeef and cabbage and sixpacks…..in 100 feet of water……

  35. California 2018=Turdistan=SHITHOLE…..

    The Tristate Area 2018=Turdistan=another FUCKING SHITHOLE!!!!……modulo the remaining Native Born White American Working Class….

  36. Variation on that old philosophy puzzler:If there were no people around….would a tree falling in a forest make a sound…..

    If WHITE LIBERAL GREEDY CHEATING CLASS BILLIONAIRE OLIGARCH COCKROACH Eric Schmidt was dipped in a vat of car battery acid…and there were no more humans left on Earth…….how many decibels would Eric Schmidt’s high pitch squeally girl boy shrieks be?

  37. RudyM says:

    I don’t want a bunch of Kurdish militants who tried to ethnically cleanse part of Syria and claim it as their own, moving to the U.S. I understand a lot of the Kurds in Syria originally came their as refugees. We don’t need them. The Kurdish nationalist project in Syria is to a large extent a Zionist project, but that doesn’t bother the Jewish-infatuated author of this article.

  38. RudyM says:
    @anon

    Bingo! Kind of wouldn’t want to inflict that on the Palestinians there, however, since I don’t get the impression they have much love for the Kurds.

  39. Kirt says:

    Still don’t understand why everyone is so upset about the impending flood of Kurdish refugees. They are not threatened with massacre. The YPG has already cut a deal with the Assad regime. Indeed, both father and son Assad were pro-Kurdish in that the Assad regime was always a coalition of minorities – Alawite, Shia, Christian, Kurdish, and just enough Sunni Moslem Arabs. Assad never sent his army against the Kurds during the current civil war, considering them de-facto allies against the jihadists. It’s true that the YPG will have to give back some of the lands the US encouraged them to grab from the Arabs, but in turn, the Kurds will get back some of their own traditional areas such as the Afrin district when the Turks and their jihadist Arab mercenaries grudgingly withdraw under Russian pressure. These ethnic cleansings are of recent vintage and thus relatively easy to reverse. All this “we can’t betray our allies, the gallant Kurds” is just neocon propaganda to keep the war going for the sake of Israel, the jihadists, and the military industrial complex. The US has betrayed the Kurds so often by this time, that the Kurds already had a Plan B in place and are now implementing it.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  40. APilgrim says:
    @Kirt

    These ethnic cleansings are of recent vintage and thus relatively easy to reverse.

    False, ‘these ethnic cleansings’ date back to Time Immemorial.

    Industrial Age Technologies simply made ‘these ethnic cleansings’ more efficient.

    • Replies: @Kirt
  41. Corvinus says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    “The Hmong (montagnards) backed the U.S. side in the Vietnam War and I don’t think their relocation into the United States has been successful.”

    You think too much.

    http://www.startribune.com/hmong-millennials-in-minnesota-straddle-a-cultural-divide/326689941/

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @eah
  42. Corvinus says:
    @TG

    “And as far as the Vietnamese refugees go: we will never know, but I would not be surprised at all if a majority of these refugees that we let into the United States were actually working for the communists.”

    That would be your wild imagination working overtime.

  43. foulkes says:

    Canada has taken in Kurdish refugees. They easily adapt to organized crime and cause all kinds of shit. They may be good allies but that is no reason for them to come here

    • Agree: APilgrim
    • Replies: @APilgrim
  44. Kirt says:
    @APilgrim

    By “these ethnic cleansings”, I was referring to the ones which have taken place since the beginning of the current civil war, some within the last year or two, not to every ethnic cleansing which has taken place in that area since the time of Abraham. Many of the recent ethnic cleansings will be reversed. Some have been already as refugee Christians and Alawites have returned to areas from which they fled when ISIS was on the offensive.

  45. At the head of the list of those needing asylum, I would place the white South Africans, who are facing certain genocide. Several months ago, Mr. Trump ordered SOS Pompeo to look into it, but whatever happened to that? All Boers who want to come to the US should be offered asylum, but, as they are white, it would be far too politically incorrect to grant it. They would probably be much better off going to Russia or Argentina anyway, where at least they might not be hated. I wonder how many (if any) have migrated to Russia thus far?

  46. @Corvinus

    Clint Eastwood had a very favorable portrait of the Hmong in his excellent, thought-provoking film “Gran Torino,” released ten years ago.

    • LOL: eah
    • Replies: @eah
  47. @TG

    I don’t think inviting the Kurds here is the answer. However, I am not in agreement with a sentiment that we don’t owe them any manner of support. We have repeatedly encouraged and supported the rebellions and that suggests that we should press for a solution that excludes the reprisals — that are surely on the minds of the victors.

  48. APilgrim says:
    @foulkes

    Send Refugees to Svalbard Island or Diego Garcia. Don’t bring ANY Muhammadans to the Western Hemisphere, not even GITMO.

    I support a Kurdistan, Kurdish Homeland State. I don’t want them here.

  49. ATBOTL says:

    We don’t owe the kurds a damn thing. We certainly don’t want a single one of these primitive muslim animals here.

    If Derb were a real nationalist, he would know how badly behaved kurdish immigrants to Europe have been. They are responsible for a large portion of the rapes by refugees.

    A huge portion of the non-white immigrants we have in the US are “allies” from the cold war. Cubans, Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, Hmong, Salvadorans, Hondurans, Nicaraguans, Somalians, Afghanis and others are here largely or primarily because of the kind of idiotic “we owe them” thinking expressed in this terrible article.

  50. eah says:
    @follyofwar

    Like Hollywood is going to make a movie portraying minorities unfavorably.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  51. eah says:
    @Corvinus

    What exactly do you think the linked article demonstrates about the Hmong?

    Looking past the cherry-picked profiles of a few successful Hmong:

    Hmong millennials are much less likely to have earned a high school diploma or college degree, and a scant 2 percent have earned a graduate or professional degree, according to the Minnesota State Demographic Center…25 percent of Hmong families live in poverty.

    Hmong and Hmong Americans in Minnesota

    Educational achievement remains a major challenge for first-generation Hmong Americans. Many have little parental guidance in American academic subjects. Hmong youth perform relatively poorly on standardized tests. They also drop out of secondary and post-secondary schools at disproportionately high rates…At an August 2015 conference held at Hmong American Partnership (HAP), Bao Vang, the group’s executive director, stated that American-born Hmong children were falling behind other ethnic groups, with a 40 percent high-school dropout rate nationally. The trend has been similar in Minnesota.

    This link also says 25% live below the poverty line:

    Despite the success of some, poverty remains a serious issue for many. One quarter of the Hmong population in Minnesota lives below the poverty line.

    So it appears that one can not inaccurately characterize the Hmong population generally as abysmal academic performers, mired in poverty, and economically marginal — their dysfunctionality is on a par with Blacks.

    America does not need any more of that.

  52. @eah

    Obviously you didn’t see the movie, so you shouldn’t have commented. Eastwood portrayed other SE Asians, Hispanics, and blacks all unfavorably. In his decaying Detroit suburb, he was the last white man standing, and didn’t like his new Hmong neighbors until he got to know them. He may be the exception, but Eastwood has the clout do make the films he wants to make.

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  53. eah says:
    @follyofwar

    I saw the movie, albeit at least five years ago now (not worth watching again was and is my opinion).

    other SE Asians, Hispanics, and blacks all unfavorably

    Sorry, I do not remember that part.

    Simple question: How did the movie end? — wasn’t it more or less a ‘Happy Hmong Festival’? — in the end, the ‘good Hmong’ redeemed the Hmong in the eyes of all the racist Whites watching — which of course was the intention from the start — have you heard the expression ‘To make an omelette you have to break a few eggs’? — the movie was a case of making a Hmong omelette.

  54. homahr says:

    Kurds are not US allies by any legal definition. Author is being extremely misleading and propagandizing here. The US does not owe them anything from a legal and moral standpoint. The US/NATO/West does not even recognize the Kurds as an independent nation-state with UN benefits like the US does with the Kosovar Albanians. The Kosovars may not be officially NATO allies but they enjoy NATO protection. Turkey, legally, is a US ally due to NATO membership. The Turks are American allies legally, not the Kurds. If you want this to change, kick Turkey out of NATO or disband NATO altogether, recognize Kurdistan like it has been done for Kosovo and go from there.

    Kurds are just geopolitical tools to be used by the US to bother regional countries and when that fails, the US leaves and the Kurds are left to fend for themselves. That has happened before, at least twice, and is happening now, and will probably happen again within the next 5-10 years.

  55. NATO should have been disbanded when the Berlin Wall came down and it’s a pity that it wasn’t a pre-condition of that happening.

  56. @follyofwar

    Clint Eastwood was married to a black/Asian woman when he made this movie. He has a black/Asian daughter with her. This movie was made for that daughter.

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