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As everyone surely knows, on Thursday evening citizens of Dallas, Texas were holding a demonstration in that city’s downtown, good-naturedly chanting “Pigs in a blanket!” and “F— the police!” while the city’s police department was out in force to keep order.

micahxSuddenly there was shooting from a high building nearby, targeted at the cops. By the time it was over, five officers had died and seven others were wounded. A gunman, identified as Micah X. Johnson, a black man aged 25, was also dead, killed by police. We still don’t know if there were other shooters.

What to say about this? Let’s start with the original demonstration. What were those citizens demonstrating about?

Black people being shot by cops. There were three cases in recent days

  • Case number one: In the wee hours of Monday morning, July 4th, 37-year-old Delrawn Small of Brooklyn, New York was shot by an off-duty police officer.

It was a road rage incident. Small thought the cop had cut him off. He followed the cop for about seven blocks to a traffic light. Then he got out, ran to the cop’s car, which was unmarked, and started punching the cop through the open side window. The cop pulled out his service revolver and shot Mr. Small, who died at the scene. [Motorist appears to punch off-duty cop before fatal shooting, By Shawn Cohen and Natalie Musumeci, New York Post, July 7, 2016]

We have video on this one but it hasn’t been released as we go to tape. The cop’s name is Wayne Isaacs. I assume he’s white, but I haven’t seen that confirmed anywhere and can’t find an image.

  • Case number two: In Baton Rouge, LA early Tuesday morning another black guy, Alton Sterling, also 37 years old, was confronted by two white cops responding to a 911 call about a man with a gun. The caller said he’d asked Sterling for money, whereupon Sterling pulled a gun on him.

The two cops apparently tried to arrest Mr. Sterling, he put up a struggle, and it ended with him on the ground and cops kneeling over him, but his hands still free—free, that is, to get out his gun, or grab one of the cops’ guns. At this point, one cop shot him, it’s not clear why. Sterling died at the scene.

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We have two videos on this one, but neither is dispositive as to what caused the cop to shoot Sterling.

  • Case number three: Wednesday evening in the Minneapolis suburbs, 32-year-old Philando Castile, a black guy, was pulled over by a Hispanic cop who said his tail light was broken. Castile’s girlfriend and a four-year-old child were in the car with him. The cop shot Mr. Castile.

We have no video of the shooting, but the girlfriend made a video right afterwards from the passenger seat, as Castile lay badly wounded next to her. Castile died half an hour later. (Late note: ConservativeTreeHouse.com is reporting, with apparently corroborative detail, that Castile was an armed robbery suspect.)

There were of course been protests, demonstrations, candle-light vigils, and the rest in other locations. The Black Lives Matter organizers were working overtime.Al Sharpton was on the move … you know the script.

My instinct, so far as these three shootings are concerned: Let’s wait and see what investigations turn up.

On the sketchy information we have, it’s possible that all three shootings were justified; and it’s also possible that none of them was, or that some were but not others.

You don’t know, and neither do I. Neither does Al Sharpton—and neither did the demonstrators in Dallas on Thursday.

The specter of Narrative Collapse hovers over all these kinds of incidents now. The Narrative favored and promoted by black race activists and Main Stream Media Goodwhites is of heartless white authority figures doing violence against helpless, harmless blacks. The MSM do everything they can to reinforce that narrative. That’s why the most-publicized photograph of Trayvon Martin, who was 17 years old when George Zimmerman shot him in 2012, was one taken when he was twelve years old.

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In all too many case, that initial MSM Narrative collapses when all the details come in.

Of the three dead black guys here, two were clearly not harmless. Delrawn Small had a long rap sheet listing 19 arrests. He served three prison terms between 1996 and 2010, for attempted robbery, attempted drug sale to an undercover cop, and a stabbing. Not harmless.

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Alton Sterling likewise had a rap sheet showing felony arrests. His court-appearance history across the last 21 years includes battery both simple and aggravated, public intimidation, carnal knowledge of a juvenile, domestic violence, burglary, receiving stolen goods, robbery, theft, drug possession, resisting arrest, possession of stolen firearm, sound reproduction without consent, and failure to register as a sex offender. [Sterling shooting: Protests continue as FBI takes over investigation, WTVM.com, July 7, 2016]

The third shootee, Philando Castile, may have been harmless: His only criminal offenses have been low-level traffic misdemeanors. Of all three cases, this is the one you’d have to say is least likely to suffer Narrative Collapse, although on the knowledge we have so far, it’s not impossible the shooting was justified.

The underlying issue here: the very high levels of violence and criminality among blacks.

The differences are really enormous. But government and the MSM do their best to play them down, for fear we Badwhite peasants will march on the ghetto with pitchforks and flaming brands. So ordinary citizens are startled, even disbelieving, when you show them the numbers.

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My colleague Edwin S. Rubinstein has crunched those numbers, with references to official sources, in his booklet The Color of Crime. Here’s a couple at random:

  • In 2013, a black was six times more likely than a non-black to commit murder
  • A black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.

Etc. If you remove Hispanics from the non-black category—which is hard to do, as the authorities would prefer you didn’t—the differences for homicide are even greater.

In a society where blacks are living among non-blacks, it’s natural and reasonable for blacks to be regarded by the rest of us as dangerous. This isn’t as much a factor for us middle-class types moving among well-socialized middle-class blacks. But for cops, who have to deal with the underclass, it’s got to be on their minds in every encounter.

No wonder they’re on a hair-trigger in arrest and traffic stop situations.

There isn’t much to be done about this. Black populations have, on the average,lower intelligence, lower impulse control, and higher levels of interpersonal violence than nonblack populations. Cops have to cope with that, way more than the rest of us do.

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In particular cases, might a cop do a dumb thing or act incompetently? I’m sure it happens. There are a third of a billion of us in the U.S.A., close to a million of whom are in law enforcement. It would be astounding if there was not an on-the-job screw-up now and again.

If the screw-up is white cop on black perp, of course all hell breaks loose because of our national neurosis about race. Plenty of screw-ups go the other way, though, with nobody much noticing.

You can figure that by scaling up from ordinary everyday encounters with cops. Some cops are jerks; and the majority of cops who aren’t jerks occasionally act jerkish, just as the rest of us do.

When this happens to a white citizen, he thinks: “This cop’s a jerk. Better act meek and polite or I’ll never get home in time for dinner.”

But a black citizen thinks: “Here’s Whitey, still trying to keep the black man down!” It makes him mad, on a scale that doesn’t happen with a white citizen.

The idea that the cop’s just being jerkish doesn’t cross his mind. The Narrative he’s been fed all his life, from kindergarten on up, through movies and TV, all the institutions and media, is one of white racism. That’s how he sees it.

So overall, I have to say, cops have my sympathy, even when they’re being jerkish.

So what’s to be done? Is there anything to be done?

There darn well better be. I don’t want my kids to have to live in a society this divided.

Here are a couple of things not to do.

  • Paying any attention to Establishment politicians.

Here, for example, is Mark Dayton, the Governor of Minnesota, a former Senator from that state, a Democrat, and the living, breathing embodiment of the Midwestern Nice style—a style which, as I have opined before, may one day be the death of us all. He was holding a news conference Thursday, before the Dallas killings, about the Philando Castile shooting. Quote:

Would this had happened if those passengers were white? I don’t think it would’ve. So I’m forced to confront, and I think all of us in Minnesota are forced to confront, [that] this kind of racism exists.

[Minnesota Governor On Philando Castile’s Death: He’d Still Be Alive Had He Been White, ThinkProgress, July 7, 2016]

The Governor is surely right: If Philando Castile had been white, he would most likely not have been shot. Listen to the cop’s voice on the post-shooting video. He’s scared. Probably he was scared when he looked in and saw he’d pulled over a young black guy.

He was right to be scared: Young black guys are far more dangerous than any other kind of driver—more impulsive, more aggressive, more likely to be armed. Again, just look at the crime stats.

Cops live with those stats. They know them. They know to be scared of young black men.

Governor Dayton calls that “racism.” Use any word you like, Gov. But for a cop to be extra scared, extra nervous, and yes, extra error-prone when confronting a young black man is ordinary common sense and self-preservation.

You would be too if you were a cop…which of course you’re not. You’re a career politician.

Here’s another Establishment pol. Friday morning on Fox and Friends they had Newt Gingrich to comment.

Newt has a reputation as being smarter than the average congresscritter on the grounds that 1) he taught college, and 2) he was instrumental in Republicans getting control of the House of Representatives in 1994, for the first time in decades.

Sorry, no sale. Newt’s assistant professorship was in History and Geography, which (with absolutely no offense to anyone) registers on my academic respect-o-meter as a tick or two above Media Studies. His reputation as a political genius crashed and burned shortly after takeoff, in the government shutdown of 1995, when Bill Clinton obliged Newt to bend over and squeal like a pig.

I must have spent an aggregate couple of dozen hours across the decades listening to Newt opining on something or other on some TV show or other. I have no recollection of him saying anything that made sense.

The one time I was across a table from him asking him questions about immigration, I got back nothing but empty flapdoodle.

Newt’s glib, I’ll allow that. There just isn’t anything there.

So it was on Fox and Friends. Newt blamed the current situation on “policies that have kept too many black Americans in poverty.” What policies, exactly? “Big bureaucracy, big government, big spending …”

Uh-huh.

Hey, I’m a small-government guy. The federal government especially is way too big and bossy. Should we cut back the size of government and privatize lots of its functions? Yes we should. Where the race problem is concerned, would it help?

No it wouldn’t.

Blacks didn’t get dependent because government got big. If anything, the arrow of causation goes the other way. A lot of government bloat is necessary to keep a lid on the boiling black pot: make-work government jobs, welfare programs, feelgood social and educational initiatives, and of course law enforcement and incarceration.

Newt’s an idiot. And he’s by no means the worst of the political bunch. Listening to these pols won’t help.

Another thing that won’t help:

  • Listening to Bigfoot commentators and public intellectuals.

My diffident self aside, there are actually plenty of commentators that Americans could learn a great deal from—Jared Taylor, for example. Unfortunately, MSM outlet will touch Jared with a ten-foot pole.

So instead we get lectures from licensed hacks on how white Americans need to improve their attitude. I’ll take today’s New York Times as illustrative.

Here’s Michael Eric Dyson, [Email him] professor of sociology at Georgetown University—the needle on my academic respect-o-meter just barely twitched there—and, says the NYT, “one of the nation’s most visible public intellectuals.

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Dyson’s written a shelf full of books, and you can see them all on his Amazon.com page. First few subjects listed: the politics of race in America, Tupac Shakur (some kind of black pop singer), Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Hip-Hop (some kind of black pop music), Marvin Gaye (another black pop singer), Martin Luther King again…etc., etc.

Executive summary, just to save you the trouble of reading any of the books: Blackety-blackety-blackety-black, black black black black black black black black blackety-black, blackety-blackety-blackety-black. This is a full-time professional black guy.

Nice gig if you can get it … which I, of course, can’t … not until transracialism really takes off.

So what’s he got to tell us?

Title: What White America Fails to See. JULY 7, 2016 It’s all our fault, you see? But you knew that, unless you’ve been fast asleep the past forty years.

Sample quote—Dyson is addressing white people at large here:

At birth, you are given a pair of binoculars that see black life from a distance, never with the texture of intimacy. Those binoculars are privilege; they are status, regardless of your class. In fact the greatest privilege that exists is for white folk to get stopped by a cop and not end up dead when the encounter is over.

What a crock of poop. White people get shot by cops all the time. Here’s one from June 25th: white guy Dylan Noble, 19 years old, shot and killed by cops in Fresno, California. [New video shows portion of deadly Fresno police shooting of Dylan Noble, ABC7News.com, July 6, 2016]

Proportional to their numbers, do blacks get killed by cops more than whites? Yes, but that’s because—go back to the crime stats again—blacks are more lawless than whites.

Cops go after lawlessness. That’s what we pay them for.

Another sample from Professor Dr. the Reverend Michael Eric Dyson, Jr.:

You demand the Supreme Court give you back what was taken from you: more space in college classrooms that you dominate; better access to jobs in fire departments and police forces that you control. All the while your resentment builds, and your slow hate gathers steam. Your whiteness has become a burden too heavy for you to carry, so you outsource it to a vile political figure who amplifies your most detestable private thoughts.

Just look at the logic there, the implications of agency. Stuff was taken from us whites: college places, cop and firefighter jobs.

Yes, those things were taken from well-qualified whites and given to less-well-qualified blacks. Naturally we feel resentment.

Who did the taking, though? It was our fellow whites—l iberal white judges,politicians, college administrators. Those are the people we resent. Nobody much resents blacks, that I’m aware of. Nobody much thinks about them at all, though blacks—the world’s greatest solipsists—find this impossible to believe.

This is the Cold Civil War, Goodwhites against Badwhites. Blacks are mostly hors de combat. Blacks don’t make anything happen. Whites make everything happen. All whites, on both sides, know this. Nobody’s killing blacks out of “resentment.”

So what will help?

For the first 180 years or so of our republic, common opinion in most of the U.S.A. assumed that races do not have precisely the same statistical distributions on all human traits of behavior, intelligence, and personality. We further thought that law and administration need not treat all citizens equally without regard to race.

There was of course a high-level commitment to due process, security of property, and so on. But at the ground level, legal segregation, exclusion from office, voting rules, et cetera were commonly accepted over big regions of the country.

After WW2 we switched—not all at once, and not with equal speed everywhere—to a different national ideology. We assumed that races were the same. But we still didn’t treat them equally. Affirmative Action, Disparate Impact, contract set-asides, all kept inequality alive, although now of course the inequality favored blacks.

In fact, this form of inequality got more intense into the 21st century. Having performed all kinds of judicial conjuring to twist the laws and rules in favor of blacks, the fact of continuing black failure could only be explained by assuming that we hadn’t taken preferences far enough. There needed to be moreAffirmative Action, more Disparate Impact rulings, more racial set-asides, morediversity quotas.

It’s not working out very well, though, is it? And if the races really are the same, continuing poor outcomes for blacks can only be interpreted as the fault of America at large. We’re not doing enough!

Read this weekend’s broadsheet editorials and Op-Eds; listen to the politicians.We must try harder!

And, of course, blacks hate whites more than ever, since their collective failures can only be our fault. Knowing that they hate us, and how impulsively violent too many of them are, we fear them more than ever.

And the whole rotten cycle goes on.

My suggestion: Let’s flip the state ideology right round, into a configuration we have never tried before. Let’s dump the idea that there’s some way to get all races showing identical outcomes—and then also dump the idea that laws and rules have to be twisted to favor one race over another.

Let’s make our legislators and jurists and administrators treat all citizens equally. Bring back competitive written examinations for Civil Service jobs. Let’s have meritocratic promotions in our agencies and corporations. Forbid public colleges accepting students by any other than academic criteria.

Let’s start treating people equally—a thing we have never done before.

And let’s accept unequal group outcomes as a natural feature of the world, which they surely are.

Then we can stop blaming them on ourselves, or on invisible swirling magic vapors of “racism” or “privilege.”

If we flipped the ideology once, why couldn’t we flip it again?

Would it help? It might.

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John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjectsfor all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He’s had two books published by VDARE.com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and From the Dissident Right II: Essays 2013. His writings are archived atJohnDerbyshire.com.

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    Reality denials (and the ideology made of them) at a given time are replaced by a new ideology, built, first of all, on the denial of other realities.

    To judge history is to pick between different, and diverse arrays of most manifest falsehoods — that end up being not manifest to the masses, and the kind of mass called “intellectuals”, in this or that period.

    We are in the middle of a trend that is far from its apex: reality about race differences, and all other realities currently denied, will denied more and more, as facts and evidence will contrast with ideology more and more.

    Current problems and strain are no more than 10% of what would need to happen, for truths about race differences to be back in the culturally acceptable discussion.

    While one may guess the best solution to be a partition of the US into new race-exclusive states, reality (let’s not deny more of it) is the USA are going to be merged with Canada and Mexico, in a larger North American political entity.

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    What made the shooter in case n. 2 fire his gun?

    Panic, fear of the unpredictable.

    Emotions that are always understandable in that cop’s situation, and are never as understandable as right now.

    *This comment discounts no actual abuse on the part of the police, and I am convinced that there’s being quite much of it. Tension will only augment the amount of misbehavior, on all parts.

    Was Al Sharpton on the move? Do you mean Reverend Baton, by chance?

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  3. I agree Derb, afterall you accepted the reality of race when you got married…

    YOURS IN INFERIOR!

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  4. The Leftist logic is that even if people are naturally unequal, they must be made equal by whatever means necessary. There is no greater blasphemy in their theology than human inequality. That the quest for equality should be futile is a thought they cannot even think. To them, it is the worst kind of nihilism, if it is not rather the worst kind of evil. They will do what they always do: abstract away the facts and fog the air with post-Enlightenment rhetoric.

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    Knowing how much America loves its sports' teams, esp. football, let's say, "Okay, disparate impact for civil service jobs? Then, disparate impact for your fav. football teams too. The Dallas Cowboys MUST, the New England Patriots MUST, the Cleveland Cavaliers and GS Warriors MUST have on their rosters whites, Asians, and Hispanics (maybe even women?) proportionate to their % in our adult population. It's clear that the owners and coaches exclude them because of bigotry, right? Unfair testing, right?

    SCOTUS, if you think a fireman's test is unfair to minorities because whites score the highest, well then, you must think the NFL combine is unfair to all but blacks.
  5. Judging by UK experience, where by and large the races are treated equally within a Liberal narrative frame, equal treatment would help a bit. Certainly there isn’t the same level of inter-racial hostility here as in the USA, despite the best efforts of the cultural Marxists to whip up US-style hatred of whites.

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    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    Just wait til UK is 13% black and 60% white.
    , @Dr. X

    Judging by UK experience, where by and large the races are treated equally within a Liberal narrative frame, equal treatment would help a bit. Certainly there isn’t the same level of inter-racial hostility here as in the USA
     
    Really? What about the 2011 riots? And Brixton?
    , @Jay Igaboo
    I'm Scottish Simon, but I'm wondering which London you're in--it must be London Ontario, but it certainly isn't the ethnically enriched London where the diversity were so vibrant in the summer of 2011 that the rest of the world thought that there was a riot going on. The MSM, of course, denied reality and the suggestion that the vast majority were soul brothas and sistas, and lots and lots of other "Britons" called Mohammed or Abdul. Here's an hilarious clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s_JQsOECyc of 30seconds of Sky News hag Kaye Burley interviewing an eye witness to ask him what he saw and telling him he couldn't possibly have seen what he actually saw.
    . The guy. “Big Jim” was kind of young and hipster-looking, and Burley was very smiley and flirtatious with him until he said he saw ”lots of black guys raiding one of my businesses.” The truth was very obviously what she didn’t want to hear, she didn’t want the viewers to hear it either, and Burley repeated that she was sure he didn’t see what he saw, then cut the interview short . “Big Jim starts at 2mins 30 seconds in. I recommend you jump to that, unless if you have a good ear for the jungle-grunt Shamaican and a desire to hear yet more PC tripe of the hip-hop “artist” Burley interviewed first.

    Interestingly, as the riots progressed and trembling reporters were sent to cover rioting as it happened, their narrative of multi-kulti bliss collapsed in front of their eyes: the bien pensant metropolitan types pensant-ed a little less bien, and a lot more accurately, as the mob moved much closer to Notting Hill, where many of the Polmeeja live.
    For a couple of days we had news that almost reflected reality, but when the riots fizzled out, the normal rose-tinted PC lens was replaced on the cameras and they decided that it all be Whitey’s fott fo’ shooting de bruthah Mark Duggan, who was only dealin’ dope and such gangsta stuff.
    and who had just bought a ( highly illegal) gun from a Brutha from anutha mutha to aid him in his business, and those pig b@stards shot him befo’ he had a chance to shoot dem.
    See?
    It’s just like America, Simon, with the added complication of millions more hostile and unassimilable Muslims in a much smaller nation.
    BTW, for everyone’s sake, I would be delighted if history proves you right and me just another bigoted piece of working class White trash, but the most superficial examination of history indicates otherwise,
  6. A well-written, well-reasoned piece, as is usual with John Derbyshire. But if we do what he suggests, how will blacks respond when they learn their new roles as “hewers of wood and drawers of water?” John has himself observed that one of the pressing problems of the 21st Century is the increasing irrelevance of the left-hand side of the bell curve, in which most blacks fall. I see two ways out, but neither is particularly pleasant: (1) partition of the U.S. and the creation of black homeland (I know, it’s Ghana next to Switzerland); or (2) the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) )in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers. An attempt to do either would probably spark and second American Civil War given the present situation. So we’ll stumble along until inter-tribal warfare becomes intolerable.

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    "I see two ways out, but neither is particularly pleasant: (1) partition of the U.S. and the creation of black homeland (I know, it’s Ghana next to Switzerland)"

    A coward's way out, yes. More importantly, are all whites on board with this proposal? Should they? If not, are they "anti-white".

    "(2) the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) ) in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers."

    Which is socialism. And, seriously, why are some "race realists" hell-bent on eugenics for only ONE group, when there are plenty of low IQ whites who also breed like rabbits.

    Praytell, how many children do YOU have? At least 5 white kids, right?

    "So we’ll stumble along until inter-tribal warfare becomes intolerable."

    I'll wait for the movie to come out.
    , @boogerbently
    "the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) )in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers."

    I've never heard a more eloquent and succinct solution.

    But, as Derb has stated, NO solution is possible until we admit there is a problem.

    The media is THE problem.

    As long as the likes of Farrakahn, Black Panthers, Sharpton, Obama, can say "Fuck the police",
    but WE can't even use the word "black" in a sentence, the "discussion" hasn't really even started.
  7. Excellent analysis by Mr. Derbyshire. It’s unfortunate that a large segment of the population, when shown the statistics, still cannot process the real race problem in the US. Democrats are trying to get the black vote out for Hillary in November and they think playing this anti-cop game is going to do that. I don’t know why militant blacks would want to vote for a rich, old, white lady like Hillary but her camp appears to think starting a race war will get her elected, it doesn’t matter to them if a few people have to be killed in the process.

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    Even if whites agree with the Derb, they might have black friends, and they would rather die than say or do anything that might offend the sacralized negro.
  8. At birth, you are given a pair of binoculars that see black life from a distance, never with the texture of intimacy. Those binoculars are privilege; they are status, regardless of your class. In fact the greatest privilege that exists is for white folk to get stopped by a cop and not end up dead when the encounter is over.

    “Texture of intimacy.” Dat be some poetic sheeeeiiiit.

    I love it when blacks (being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is) assert that whites don’t know what blacks go through. As if they have a clue what whites go through, which is a prerequisite of this assertion having any relevance.

    Blacks don’t know what whites go through. Whites don’t know what blacks go through. Nobody knows what anybody else goes through. Welcome to real life.

    Whites don’t have a race card they can play constantly, regardless of whether it’s valid, I know that much. When I’m pulled over and sat on the curb for 15 minutes for “matching the description of a rape suspect,” (it happened), it’s just a cigar.

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    "I love it when blacks (being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is) assert that whites don’t know what blacks go through."

    Blacks know what blacks go through. Other people's properties to get free stuff.
    Blacks also know what goes through blacks. Bullets. Blacks sure use a lot of bullets that go through other blacks.
    , @AndrewR
    Hello my friend. You need to listen to Granny Hillary and really listen when blacks tell you about their lives. As she so bravely points out, we whites don't know what it's like to be black.
    , @David In TN
    "being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is"

    Also no sense of irony, nuance, or placing events in context.
  9. Hey, I’m a small-government guy. The federal government especially is way too big and bossy. Should we cut back the size of government and privatize lots of its functions? Yes we should. Where the race problem is concerned, would it help?

    No it wouldn’t.

    Blacks didn’t get dependent because government got big. If anything, the arrow of causation goes the other way. A lot of government bloat is necessary to keep a lid on the boiling black pot: make-work government jobs, welfare programs, feel good social and educational initiatives, and of course law enforcement and incarceration.

    One quibble, I think you should consider the possibility that the arrow of causation goes both ways (i.e. a positive feedback loop or vicious cycle). I believe that is what causes this problem to continue worsening so intractably.

    Dependency -> More Programs -> More Dependency -> …

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  10. I had a thought on all this affirmative action business, and I don’t know it is original, but why not scrap all the race/nationality nonsense, and allow affirmative action for veterans and the children of veterans. Since minorities are disproportionately in the Armed Forces, the Ivies would be able to balance out their racial demographics and who is going to resent veterans? Sure, someone will, but it is much more justifiable than legal privilege for racial or national status.

    Second of all, if you had more veterans in the Cathedral and in the up-and-coming American elite, I could only imagine it would serve as a check on the idiot Left and what emanates from _______ Studies departments.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    We sure as Hell would resent veterans' kids getting an advantage over our kids in college admissions. Many soldiers and veterans are great guys, but guess what, many are not particularly intelligent or creative or even stable, especially the Africans.

    Stop trying to favor Africans through all these clever, less direct, nominally "race-neutral" methods. Just get the gov out of favoring anyone based on race.

    Also, it appears that the military is a lot less African (and a lot more Mexican) than it used to be. Preference for veterans' skids probably won't help Africans that much, then, going forward.

    It will help mexicans' kids, who surely don't need more discrimination in their favor against more-intelligent, more-qualified white and Asian Americans than they already have.
  11. Blacks watch stupid sitcoms made by Jews, 7 hours a day of that crap, and think they know something about whites.

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  12. Two words are the magic decoder ring that ends this: Design Thinking. I suggest you explore the field a bit, Derb, or drop me an email, and I can explain.

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  13. “better access to jobs in fire departments and police forces that you control.”

    Don’t pretend NYPD is representative of American law enforcement, but it is the largest police force in the country. Without details, my business finds me interacting with NYPD on a daily basis. For the latest break down available in 2014, NYPD is roughy 47% minority, has had several black commissioners and numerous black and Latino chiefs(one of whom, Philip Banks, was well on his way to becoming commissioner until the latest scandal laid him low) , makes a point of hiring as many minority officers as possible. Would suggest based on my eyeballs those numbers are trending to even more “diversity” . The current mayor, to whom NYPD answers, is an incompetent and corrupt leftist buffoon married to a black former lesbian.Personally care more about the work ethic and integrity of anyone I deal with than the color of their skin. But to say in this case white people control something is laughable.

    As to FDNY, there are many black and Latino guys on that job. It ay not be divers, but there are no reasons why such people could not take the test . But unscientifically black people do not like this kind of work(the same way Asian people seem to find their way to postal work, or Irish once did to police work). And most women are physically unsuited to carry people out of fires.

    Yet these myths get stated as absolute facts by idiots like 3 Name Dyson.

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  14. @Harshmellow
    I had a thought on all this affirmative action business, and I don't know it is original, but why not scrap all the race/nationality nonsense, and allow affirmative action for veterans and the children of veterans. Since minorities are disproportionately in the Armed Forces, the Ivies would be able to balance out their racial demographics and who is going to resent veterans? Sure, someone will, but it is much more justifiable than legal privilege for racial or national status.

    Second of all, if you had more veterans in the Cathedral and in the up-and-coming American elite, I could only imagine it would serve as a check on the idiot Left and what emanates from _______ Studies departments.

    We sure as Hell would resent veterans’ kids getting an advantage over our kids in college admissions. Many soldiers and veterans are great guys, but guess what, many are not particularly intelligent or creative or even stable, especially the Africans.

    Stop trying to favor Africans through all these clever, less direct, nominally “race-neutral” methods. Just get the gov out of favoring anyone based on race.

    Also, it appears that the military is a lot less African (and a lot more Mexican) than it used to be. Preference for veterans’ skids probably won’t help Africans that much, then, going forward.

    It will help mexicans’ kids, who surely don’t need more discrimination in their favor against more-intelligent, more-qualified white and Asian Americans than they already have.

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  15. @Diversity Heretic
    A well-written, well-reasoned piece, as is usual with John Derbyshire. But if we do what he suggests, how will blacks respond when they learn their new roles as "hewers of wood and drawers of water?" John has himself observed that one of the pressing problems of the 21st Century is the increasing irrelevance of the left-hand side of the bell curve, in which most blacks fall. I see two ways out, but neither is particularly pleasant: (1) partition of the U.S. and the creation of black homeland (I know, it's Ghana next to Switzerland); or (2) the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) )in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers. An attempt to do either would probably spark and second American Civil War given the present situation. So we'll stumble along until inter-tribal warfare becomes intolerable.

    “I see two ways out, but neither is particularly pleasant: (1) partition of the U.S. and the creation of black homeland (I know, it’s Ghana next to Switzerland)”

    A coward’s way out, yes. More importantly, are all whites on board with this proposal? Should they? If not, are they “anti-white”.

    “(2) the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) ) in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers.”

    Which is socialism. And, seriously, why are some “race realists” hell-bent on eugenics for only ONE group, when there are plenty of low IQ whites who also breed like rabbits.

    Praytell, how many children do YOU have? At least 5 white kids, right?

    “So we’ll stumble along until inter-tribal warfare becomes intolerable.”

    I’ll wait for the movie to come out.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "Praytell, how many children do YOU have? At least 5 white kids, right?"

    Neither five. Nor white.
    , @epochehusserl
    A cowards way out would be continuing the way we are and refusing to confront reality.
    , @Bill
    Cowardice: Failure to provide Corvinus with gibsmedats
    , @epochehusserl
    I don't know of any low iq whites that breed like rabbits that's just something that you invented right here. The reason we are so hell bent on eugenics for one group is because blacks are so far behind. What future do you see with the cops being shot at?
  16. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    American Racial Formula…

    Sanctification of Blacks + Black Thuggery + Integration + Gentrification(or White Flight) + Aggressive Policing and Incarceration(demanded by urban haute Liberals) + Encouragement of Black Rage by PC and Soros Foundation + Sensationalization of Rap Culture + Worship of Black Muscle in Sports + Fear of Black Muscle in Streets + Victim Nostalgia that still pretends in Jim Crow Era when we are in Willy Horton era + Massive Immigration that leaves blacks feeling less relevant as Diversity drowns them out in many places + Homomania(that makes blacks bitter and envious that white fruitcakes get more attention than them) + Indulgence of black ‘hate hoaxes’ + silence of truth by PC + media complicity in obfuscating facts, e.g. black thugs called ‘teens’ or ‘youths’ + Jewish dominance over white gentiles who are to be paralyzed by ‘white guilt’ in relation to blacks + Hollywood’s production of black rage movie every year + Definition of ‘hate’ as only a white thing + Regression of black culture into one of savagery + PC tentacles into everything from kids cartoons to TV shows to college seminars + black raciality(racial pesonality) made up ofattitude, sass, aggression, nastiness(after all, smart blacks are no better than dumb ones in lack of reflection and introspection, a trait shared by homos and Jews who are totally into self-aggrandizement) = An Empire of Lies.

    US needs a PRICE OF THE CITY moment.

    It has to come clean.

    One lie leads to another.

    US is in denial and cover-up mode like Watergate where one lie led to another and another and another. In both foreign policy and race matters, esp pertaining to blacks.

    but even the media, or esp the media, are in with the Racegate, and they even lie inside racegated communities.

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  17. I do not believe there is such a thing as ‘driving while black’ but ‘driving while poor’ is a reality for many. Philonde Castile had more than 60 traffic violations in his brief life. I’m twice his age and haven’t had a traffic violation in 40 years and I used to drive more than 100 miles per day before I retired. The difference is my vehicles were in good condition and the paper work for them in order not that I was white.

    Look at Philonde’s car:

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/08/16/3608F5AA00000578-3679678-image-a-1_1467991347117.jpg

    It is an aging piece of crap with rusted out rocker panels. He drove in a town of fewer than 25,000 people and was what is called a ‘habitual offender’. Conduct a traffic stop and its almost certain he will be violating some ordinance or other. No insurance, suspended license, unpaid tickets etc. The sad thing is had Philonde spent the money he had paid in fines on keeping his vehicle and paper work in order he might be alive today. But poor people and especially poor black people don’t look at that way. Why fix a tail light when you need to buy marijuana. Keeping your vehicle insured might leave you short of walking around money for the weekend. Better to risk getting pulled over than defer some immediate pleasures.

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    • Replies: @jtgw
    Perhaps all these regulations make it more difficult for poor people to comply with traffic ordinances and that's why poor people tend to bear the brunt of traffic law enforcement? It's the same reason that regulation of businesses and entrepreneurs harms poor people disproportionately; it makes it much harder for them to stand up on their own two feet when the government artificially raises the price of entry with all these ordinances.
    , @Atlanta Man
    Philande's car was insured and his gun was licsence and he had a valid conceled weapons permit. He was employed and never convicted of a felony, paid taxes, and just living his life. He was not wealthy and living within his means. What does a black man have to do to have the benifit of the doubt when he is living his life? Yes , his car was a piece of shit-should he go into debt for something he cannot afford so he can get to and from work without getting pulled over? His paperwork was in order, his life was in order, and he still was shot by a jumpy cop -and you people on this blog go through contortions to find fault with him.
  18. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    In the end, even after blacks burn down a city, white boys will return to worshiping black athletes and rappers, and white girls will go back to imitating Beyonce and chasing after negro studs.

    Globalism is worship pf raw power, and blacks got the most elementary kind of fist, booty, and ‘muh dick’.

    OJ fiasco and black ugliness did nothing to dampen white addiction to black superbowl that year.

    White people must boycott and be free of the Afropium if they want to rise above the black threat.

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  19. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    If the killer had been Muslim, Trump would say ‘no Muslim immigration’.

    If the killer had been a Mexican illegal, Trump would say higher walls.

    But the killer is black, so Trump is silent on that score, even though 11 white cops were shot.

    It goes to show blacks are the Invisible Thug. Whatever bad thing they do, we are not supposed to see color.

    PS. Whites are a strange breed. They are the ONLY people whose support can be won by insulting them. PC says blacks and Jews are good as a people; they can only be bad as individuals. In contrast, PC says whites are bad as a group; they can only be good as individuals… or as a group devoted to self-debasement.
    So, when you insult whiteness, ‘good’ white individuals will join your side to demonstrate that they reject their ‘bad’ group identity. They are just individuals devoted to justice and freedom. And if they have a collective identity, it is to support Israel, homomania, or MLK-worship.
    Whites may form white communities but always in admiration of something un-white or anti-white.

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    • Replies: @KenH
    Correct regarding Trump's silence and cowardice in the aftermath of the racially motivated shootings and murders of white cops and citizens. All he did yesterday was post some bland video about supporting cops, but did not breath a word of criticism of BLM, Obama or other fire breathing black radicals who've created this climate of anti-white hatred and rage. Most definitely hypocritical in light of previous statements about Muslims and illegal alien Mexicans.

    No doubt his consultants told him not to be "divisive" and he's obliging them by turning into a spineless politician worried more about attracting minority votes than speaking the truth.

  20. The collective ‘black people’ is surely a problem when law enforcement acts/behaves/conducts themselves in a way that profiles their own ignorance and enhances their power while using the pattern and practice of their own profile. My only reference to the term refers only those who behave in that way and not to the greater band of police officers who do their job and not shoot ‘black citizens”.

    When a citizen is stopped for an infraction, it matter not what he did before. As long as he is observed breaking the law(s) of the state, he can be detained accordingly. Anything other is de-escalation and what we see today is the result. Both sides are not innocent so le’ts be clear.
    Mt Philander(??) appears to have been a street hustler and nothing more. He did belong to the same socioeconomic level as his brethren within the urban sectors of USA but that is not a crime. What he drove (as transportation) is also not an issue but it is interesting that the Ferguson profile on the after incident investigation is that the local council in Ferguson, knowing the poverty level, installed a program that would target a money source that involved transportation, with fees from such as a revenue stream.

    http://washingtoninformer.com/news/2015/mar/10/ferguson-increased-revenue-targeting-blacks/?page=1

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  21. There are a lot of criminal cops and corrections officers. They commit crimes from shake downs to murder against people of every color. They taze people in restraints. If you have lived a sheltered life you don’t know this. If you are queer for cops you don’t want to know this. Lets accept the realty of race AND cops.

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    • Replies: @joef
    What a bunch of nonsense!!
    , @AndrewR
    Couldn't agree more. People are so quick to take a side.
    , @utu
    "Lets accept the realty of race AND cops." - You are right. Unfortunately most commenters here do not see it that way.
    , @Dissident
    How the numbers compare, respectively and proportionately, of criminal cops vs. violently criminal blacks?
  22. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    ———-But a black citizen thinks: “Here’s Whitey, still trying to keep the black man down!” It makes him mad, on a scale that doesn’t happen with a white citizen.————

    It’s more like, “I can whup a slow and fa**oty honkey’s ass, and all white folks I know be afraid of me. But dis here white dude think he tough and badass cuz he wear a badge and carry a gun.”

    When a black guy deals with a white cop, he experiences racial inversion. White boys usually kiss his ass, but the black guy must kiss the white cop’s ass.
    This is esp tough when blacks have rap lyrics going on in their minds 24/7.
    They think they are in some rap video.
    Cuz blacks are ‘musical’, their sense of reality is less objective and more subjective.

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    @Simon in London
    Judging by UK experience, where by and large the races are treated equally within a Liberal narrative frame, equal treatment would help a bit. Certainly there isn't the same level of inter-racial hostility here as in the USA, despite the best efforts of the cultural Marxists to whip up US-style hatred of whites.

    Just wait til UK is 13% black and 60% white.

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  24. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Rich
    Excellent analysis by Mr. Derbyshire. It's unfortunate that a large segment of the population, when shown the statistics, still cannot process the real race problem in the US. Democrats are trying to get the black vote out for Hillary in November and they think playing this anti-cop game is going to do that. I don't know why militant blacks would want to vote for a rich, old, white lady like Hillary but her camp appears to think starting a race war will get her elected, it doesn't matter to them if a few people have to be killed in the process.

    Even if whites agree with the Derb, they might have black friends, and they would rather die than say or do anything that might offend the sacralized negro.

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  25. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Svigor

    At birth, you are given a pair of binoculars that see black life from a distance, never with the texture of intimacy. Those binoculars are privilege; they are status, regardless of your class. In fact the greatest privilege that exists is for white folk to get stopped by a cop and not end up dead when the encounter is over.
     
    "Texture of intimacy." Dat be some poetic sheeeeiiiit.

    I love it when blacks (being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is) assert that whites don't know what blacks go through. As if they have a clue what whites go through, which is a prerequisite of this assertion having any relevance.

    Blacks don't know what whites go through. Whites don't know what blacks go through. Nobody knows what anybody else goes through. Welcome to real life.

    Whites don't have a race card they can play constantly, regardless of whether it's valid, I know that much. When I'm pulled over and sat on the curb for 15 minutes for "matching the description of a rape suspect," (it happened), it's just a cigar.

    “I love it when blacks (being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is) assert that whites don’t know what blacks go through.”

    Blacks know what blacks go through. Other people’s properties to get free stuff.
    Blacks also know what goes through blacks. Bullets. Blacks sure use a lot of bullets that go through other blacks.

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  26. I 100% blame dallas shooting on the MSM. all the cop/white hating comes from the news headlines blowing up the shootings.

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  27. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Another Narrative Collapse.

    US says it has the right to interfere in other nations cuz it is the paragon of human rights whereas other nations are tyrannies. But blacks are blowing this narrative to bits. They say they is slaves in ‘racist’ America. LOL.

    In a way, BLM and WOT(war on terror) & J-WOR(Jewish War on Russia) have something in common. They are all built on lies.

    US lied about WMD and Gaddafi and destroy Iraq and Libya. US lies and aids terrorists in Syria.
    US lies about ‘Russian aggression’ by projecting its own aggression onto others.

    What the US(under Jewish control) does globally, blacks do in the US. They cause problems but blame other.

    But urban Libs deserve blame too. For them to create Gentropolis, they needed the aggressive involvement of cops and the prison system. They needed tougher policing and more prisons. After all, the main threat to Gentropolis is black crime and thuggery.

    But such policies might seem ‘racist’, so they masked their deed with profuse outpouring of pro-black sentiments and vilification of white ‘racists’(esp those in the South). This indulged black rage. They also used homomania to push side black issues.

    Eventually, something was bound to crack in this funny jar of contradictions.
    NY led the way,by the way. After all, how did NY make its comeback?

    US, a nation that condemns ‘hate’ but promotes Rap that wallows in mayhem.
    What a nut nation.

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  28. @Priss Factor
    Just wait til UK is 13% black and 60% white.

    London is – that’s what I’m going by.

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    • Replies: @fnn
    Faulkner famously said, "The past isn't over. It isn't even past." You can't escape from the history no matter how liberal you get.

    But my pet nonsense theory is that, unlike the English, white Americans are too literal-minded and aren't good at the kind of fanciful verbal embroidery that many blacks find amusing/endearing. Even Irish-Americans and Jews aren't good at it.
    , @Priss Factor
    London has huge Paki or 'Asian' presence.

    Pakis may produce all sorts of problems, but they don't act like blacks.

    And let's not forget the huge riot some yrs back that began in the Negro community.

    Anyway, More Blacks will mean more trouble as UK blacks take their inspiration from American blacks.
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    Wasn't it the police shooting of a black guy, Mark Duggan, that triggered the 2011 riots? I see he fathered 6 children by age 29.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mark_Duggan

    A middle aged white guy got beaten to death by youths in Ealing, and elsewhere at least 2 white people were stopped and stripped naked as humiliation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots#Richard_Mannington_Bowes

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    “The underlying issue here: the very high levels of violence and criminality among blacks.”

    Petty Apartheid was instituted in South Africa to shield whites from this type of black criminality, which cannot be reformed. Basically, living apart from blacks solves all of these problems.
    What I don’t get is why white officers are even bothering to police black areas. Why not just stop off at the local Dunkin Donut store and sit out your shift. Let the brothers take care of this shit. Let Obama and co. have it in full.

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    • Replies: @joef
    I agree, cops should stand down and give up on proactive policing in afro american ghettos and limo liberal communities too (the limo libs will cry like little babies if that happens and most suburban cops have no stomach for it). They don't like policing then let them do without it and declare their communities DMZs.
    So to all urban ghetto cops out there: no proactive policing, minimal enforcement activity, just answer your radio runs and take police reports, don't make an arrest without a complainant, and respond to emergency calls by complying with all traffic rules (yes sit at a red traffic light while your lights and sirens are on!). Let afro americans reap what they sowed and keep their (criminal) lifestyle for themselves.
    This will not solve the fact that they travel to other non black areas to commit criminal activity as well but you have no control over that. You will just be responding to the desires expressed by the MSM, so comply & give them what they want, and survive.
    , @Anon
    Cops already let ghettos alone anyway. Quite often, they only enter ghettos when they get a 911 call. They don't patrol the place because they'd have to make 10 arrests per block.
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    “Nobody much resents blacks, that I’m aware of.”

    In South Africa it is the black gov taking those jobs, college places and farms away from competent whites and giving them to unqualified blacks. So whites there resent blacks. And for good reason. The gov is filled up to the brim with unqualified and self-entitled blacks who get those jobs on account of their skin color, and as a reward for nepotism and black racial solidarity. Which the MSM naturally all ignores.

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  31. With re to your comments about Newt Gingrich, Mr. Derbyshire, I have to agree and disagree. I am appalled that he is on Trump’s short list of VP picks, and I sure hope Trump doesn’t make the mistake of picking him. I don’t think the thrice-married Trump really needs the baggage of the thrice-married Gingrich to weigh down his ticket. Then there are the incompatible political positions, such as Gingrich’s enthusiasm for foreign wars. He was promoting war against Iraq soon after 9/11, almost a year and a half before the war began, and he remained hawkish on the Iraq War long after most sensible proponents of that war had revised their thinking. In late 2013, he gave an interview in which he stated that he was “rethinking” the war against Iraq. He also strongly favored the war against Libya and Qaddafi. I think it’s safe to characterize his positions in the foreign policy area as close to a neocon as it’s possible to be. BTW I have the same objection to Chris Christy being named the VP running mate, apart from the fact that NJ is right next door to NY. Of the three being bandied about, Mike Pence seems like the default choice, and even he presents problems. I wish there were a younger politician out there with excellent academic credentials who shares Trump’s views to a substantial degree, such as Kansas SOS Kris Kobach (summa cum laude from Harvard + law review at Yale Law), but apparently that is not in the cards. As far as Gingrich’s role on Fox News, I rather enjoy his appearances since he is intelligent and articulate and often says rather sensible things and gives pretty good political analysis.

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  32. @Simon in London
    London is - that's what I'm going by.

    Faulkner famously said, “The past isn’t over. It isn’t even past.” You can’t escape from the history no matter how liberal you get.

    But my pet nonsense theory is that, unlike the English, white Americans are too literal-minded and aren’t good at the kind of fanciful verbal embroidery that many blacks find amusing/endearing. Even Irish-Americans and Jews aren’t good at it.

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    • Replies: @Simon in London
    Black British don't do a lot of that jive talk compared to US blacks.
  33. @Priss Factor
    If the killer had been Muslim, Trump would say 'no Muslim immigration'.

    If the killer had been a Mexican illegal, Trump would say higher walls.

    But the killer is black, so Trump is silent on that score, even though 11 white cops were shot.

    It goes to show blacks are the Invisible Thug. Whatever bad thing they do, we are not supposed to see color.

    PS. Whites are a strange breed. They are the ONLY people whose support can be won by insulting them. PC says blacks and Jews are good as a people; they can only be bad as individuals. In contrast, PC says whites are bad as a group; they can only be good as individuals... or as a group devoted to self-debasement.
    So, when you insult whiteness, 'good' white individuals will join your side to demonstrate that they reject their 'bad' group identity. They are just individuals devoted to justice and freedom. And if they have a collective identity, it is to support Israel, homomania, or MLK-worship.
    Whites may form white communities but always in admiration of something un-white or anti-white.

    Correct regarding Trump’s silence and cowardice in the aftermath of the racially motivated shootings and murders of white cops and citizens. All he did yesterday was post some bland video about supporting cops, but did not breath a word of criticism of BLM, Obama or other fire breathing black radicals who’ve created this climate of anti-white hatred and rage. Most definitely hypocritical in light of previous statements about Muslims and illegal alien Mexicans.

    No doubt his consultants told him not to be “divisive” and he’s obliging them by turning into a spineless politician worried more about attracting minority votes than speaking the truth.

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    • Replies: @gda
    You don't stop a runaway train by leaping on the tracks in front of it with your hand up. You can't reverse 50 years of racial lies by shouting the truth in a room full of true believers.

    Thats a recipe for failure.

    Softly, softly, catchee monkey.
    , @AndrewR
    Trump is getting more cucked by the day. It's pathetic.
    , @Anon
    Tactically speaking, Trumps needs to stay quiet. Conservatives already back him. It's important to let BLM and shootings backfire all over liberals and let liberals stew in it. If Trump wants their support, he needs liberals to have this violence rubbed in their face before they'll start to admit their own political opinions are a bunch of nonsense. You don't interrupt the process of dawning consciousness by grandstanding. Trump needs the support of liberals who are growing terrified of black violence and who will change their minds in the privacy of the voting booth and back him.
  34. Great article.

    Your assessment of Gingrich is spot on. You can always identify a cuckservative because they describe Gingrich as always the smartest guy in the room. A degree in history ranks up there with a degree in gender studies.

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    @Simon in London
    London is - that's what I'm going by.

    London has huge Paki or ‘Asian’ presence.

    Pakis may produce all sorts of problems, but they don’t act like blacks.

    And let’s not forget the huge riot some yrs back that began in the Negro community.

    Anyway, More Blacks will mean more trouble as UK blacks take their inspiration from American blacks.

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  36. @fnn
    Faulkner famously said, "The past isn't over. It isn't even past." You can't escape from the history no matter how liberal you get.

    But my pet nonsense theory is that, unlike the English, white Americans are too literal-minded and aren't good at the kind of fanciful verbal embroidery that many blacks find amusing/endearing. Even Irish-Americans and Jews aren't good at it.

    Black British don’t do a lot of that jive talk compared to US blacks.

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    • Replies: @fnn
    I think it's in the genes. See,for example, the history of Calypso music.
  37. @Simon in London
    Black British don't do a lot of that jive talk compared to US blacks.

    I think it’s in the genes. See,for example, the history of Calypso music.

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  38. The unfortunate reality is that we will not accept reality – – we will just do what we have been doing for the last 50 years: more pandering and more entitlements. The fact that this combination has produced nothing but failure will not deter Leftist from continuing to deny reality.
    I believed that as local government defaults under economic stress would cause an increase in afro american criminal behavior. But now it will probably happen a lot sooner with the lack of qualified candidates wanting to be police officers, and a surge in retirements as well. With what is going on the only draw to becoming a cop is that there is no other jobs to be found.
    As the ranks start to diminish, and the remaining officers adopt an increasingly hands off attitude, out of self preservation, afro american violence will increase to previously unseen record levels.
    We really cannot expect them to do otherwise, because the more we pander the more emboldened they get, and with the demise of any deterrence to their criminality, there will be nothing to stop them. Of course to a Leftist this would be the equivalent to nirvana as they will attempt to expunge their own white guilt by celebrating atrocities committed against everyone else by afro americans.
    In the mean time the Leftist media/academic/political/legal complex will call for more gun control (which will not affect afro american violent offenders because guns will always be available by black market means). and attack any person’s legitimate use of deadly force, to defend their own lives against this onslaught, as a racist activity.
    The only way this will end is badly when we will eventually economically collapse and cannot maintain our entitlement spending. The result of this is that afro americans will finally have their desired race war, and lose. Then we may start over again by doing things the right way (no need to worry about further Leftist interference in this case because without modern protections the Leftist will die off from natural selection).

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    • Replies: @pink_point
    You are a good psychologist.

    If 95% of the world wouldn't be forced to accept, out of awe, dollars that have no value any more according to every financial law, we can't really figure how things would turn at this point.

    You seem to hope for a race war, thuogh, and I can't agree on that.

    Besides,


    Then we may start over again by doing things the right way (no need to worry about further Leftist interference in this case because without modern protections the Leftist will die off from natural selection).
     
    You somehow sound like the typical leftist, lover of all humans but hater of every human that doesn't play by the very same leftist script.

    It's not about natural selection. It's that where there is real progress, and move onward, leftists "ideas" and "mindset" find no soil to grow on. On the contrary, they prosper in the times of decay; in a state of advanced decay, like in this day and age, "leftist" will be a byname for "masochistic". (We can say this is due to natural selection of ideas.)

  39. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Corvinus
    "I see two ways out, but neither is particularly pleasant: (1) partition of the U.S. and the creation of black homeland (I know, it’s Ghana next to Switzerland)"

    A coward's way out, yes. More importantly, are all whites on board with this proposal? Should they? If not, are they "anti-white".

    "(2) the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) ) in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers."

    Which is socialism. And, seriously, why are some "race realists" hell-bent on eugenics for only ONE group, when there are plenty of low IQ whites who also breed like rabbits.

    Praytell, how many children do YOU have? At least 5 white kids, right?

    "So we’ll stumble along until inter-tribal warfare becomes intolerable."

    I'll wait for the movie to come out.

    “Praytell, how many children do YOU have? At least 5 white kids, right?”

    Neither five. Nor white.

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  40. @unit472
    I do not believe there is such a thing as 'driving while black' but 'driving while poor' is a reality for many. Philonde Castile had more than 60 traffic violations in his brief life. I'm twice his age and haven't had a traffic violation in 40 years and I used to drive more than 100 miles per day before I retired. The difference is my vehicles were in good condition and the paper work for them in order not that I was white.

    Look at Philonde's car:

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/08/16/3608F5AA00000578-3679678-image-a-1_1467991347117.jpg

    It is an aging piece of crap with rusted out rocker panels. He drove in a town of fewer than 25,000 people and was what is called a 'habitual offender'. Conduct a traffic stop and its almost certain he will be violating some ordinance or other. No insurance, suspended license, unpaid tickets etc. The sad thing is had Philonde spent the money he had paid in fines on keeping his vehicle and paper work in order he might be alive today. But poor people and especially poor black people don't look at that way. Why fix a tail light when you need to buy marijuana. Keeping your vehicle insured might leave you short of walking around money for the weekend. Better to risk getting pulled over than defer some immediate pleasures.

    Perhaps all these regulations make it more difficult for poor people to comply with traffic ordinances and that’s why poor people tend to bear the brunt of traffic law enforcement? It’s the same reason that regulation of businesses and entrepreneurs harms poor people disproportionately; it makes it much harder for them to stand up on their own two feet when the government artificially raises the price of entry with all these ordinances.

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    • Replies: @whatgives
    There is that. But, re Ferguson, the community is overwhelmingly black and the local government overwhelmingly white. Why? Do they not bother to vote without being offered a ride and a pack of cigarettes?
  41. Are you sure that government bloat is caused by black misbehavior? It seems that black misbehavior and social indicators got worse after Johnson’s Great Society, not before.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    The beginning of the Great Society corresponded with the end of Jim Crow laws and practices, which had served to keep black violence in check by the fear of instant extra-judicial retribution and in keeping racial tensions lower by separating blacks and whites to a large extent. Hard to figure out where one began and the other ended.
  42. Knowing that they hate us, and how impulsively violent too many of them are, we fear them more than ever.

    I wouldn’t characterize it as fear. Whites are just very law abiding and very wary of the legal ramifications of conflict with blacks. When whites violently tangle with blacks and win there is a presumption of white racism instead of innocence.

    Some may remember the story several years ago of a white NYC judge who often ruled against white males even when the evidence favored their cases so he could help the underdog black man. He sentenced a white man who justifiably defended himself against a black aggressor to 20yrs in prison. He was stricken by pangs of conscience in old age and admitted his race bias against his own race. IMO this judge is just the tip of the iceberg within our “justice system”.

    It’s time to file for divorce. Immediate re-segregation and eventual racial partition is the only workable solution, but our block headed pols, including the supposedly PC defying Trump will never, ever go there. So blacks will keep killing whites and occasionally whites will get angry and kill some of them.

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    White judge says he sent a white man to prison because of racial bias
    By Haimy Assefa, CNN, Fri December 13, 2013

    A former Brooklyn judge testified on Wednesday to ask that a man he convicted of murder 15 years ago be freed, saying he was racially biased during the 1998 trial.

    Frank Barbaro, who is white, said he now believes his decision to convict Donald Kagan, also white, for the murder of an African-American man named Wavell Wint was a result of his "subliminal fight against racism," he told CNN.

    Barbaro was convinced that Kagan was racist and wanted to kill a black person, Barbaro said.

    Wint was shot and killed outside a movie theater in the East New York neighborhood of Brooklyn when the two men got into a fight involving Kagan's gold chain necklace, Barbaro said.

    Barbaro said he gave little consideration to the self-defense argument presented by Jeff Adler, Kagan's attorney, because he was blinded by his experience as a civil rights activist earlier in life.

    The former judge was 18 years old when he became deeply involved in issues of racial inequality. His experience caused him to be "repulsed by racial discrimination against black people," Barbaro said.

    The former judge said he saw Kagan as a white man who "assassinated" an African-American.

    In a nonjury trial, Barbaro convicted Kagan of second degree murder and criminal possession of a weapon, sentencing the man to 15 years to life.

    In the years since the trail, Barbaro said he continued to revisit the case in his mind. He said he noticed a growing number of stories in the media about wrongful murder convictions, which caused him to further doubt his decision.

    In 2011, Barbaro said he contacted Kagan's attorney to express his doubt.

    When Barbaro read the court transcripts, he said, it became apparent to him that he ignored undisputed facts that support Adler's self-defense argument. Kagan tried to walk away from Wint twice during the verbal and physical altercation, Barbaro said.
     
  43. @WorkingClass
    There are a lot of criminal cops and corrections officers. They commit crimes from shake downs to murder against people of every color. They taze people in restraints. If you have lived a sheltered life you don't know this. If you are queer for cops you don't want to know this. Lets accept the realty of race AND cops.

    What a bunch of nonsense!!

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    When you've nothing substantial to contribute, you might try the next button to the right.
  44. @Anonymous
    "The underlying issue here: the very high levels of violence and criminality among blacks."

    Petty Apartheid was instituted in South Africa to shield whites from this type of black criminality, which cannot be reformed. Basically, living apart from blacks solves all of these problems.
    What I don't get is why white officers are even bothering to police black areas. Why not just stop off at the local Dunkin Donut store and sit out your shift. Let the brothers take care of this shit. Let Obama and co. have it in full.

    I agree, cops should stand down and give up on proactive policing in afro american ghettos and limo liberal communities too (the limo libs will cry like little babies if that happens and most suburban cops have no stomach for it). They don’t like policing then let them do without it and declare their communities DMZs.
    So to all urban ghetto cops out there: no proactive policing, minimal enforcement activity, just answer your radio runs and take police reports, don’t make an arrest without a complainant, and respond to emergency calls by complying with all traffic rules (yes sit at a red traffic light while your lights and sirens are on!). Let afro americans reap what they sowed and keep their (criminal) lifestyle for themselves.
    This will not solve the fact that they travel to other non black areas to commit criminal activity as well but you have no control over that. You will just be responding to the desires expressed by the MSM, so comply & give them what they want, and survive.

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  45. @Diversity Heretic
    A well-written, well-reasoned piece, as is usual with John Derbyshire. But if we do what he suggests, how will blacks respond when they learn their new roles as "hewers of wood and drawers of water?" John has himself observed that one of the pressing problems of the 21st Century is the increasing irrelevance of the left-hand side of the bell curve, in which most blacks fall. I see two ways out, but neither is particularly pleasant: (1) partition of the U.S. and the creation of black homeland (I know, it's Ghana next to Switzerland); or (2) the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) )in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers. An attempt to do either would probably spark and second American Civil War given the present situation. So we'll stumble along until inter-tribal warfare becomes intolerable.

    “the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) )in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers.”

    I’ve never heard a more eloquent and succinct solution.

    But, as Derb has stated, NO solution is possible until we admit there is a problem.

    The media is THE problem.

    As long as the likes of Farrakahn, Black Panthers, Sharpton, Obama, can say “Fuck the police”,
    but WE can’t even use the word “black” in a sentence, the “discussion” hasn’t really even started.

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    • Replies: @Dissident

    As long as the likes of Farrakahn, Black Panthers, Sharpton, Obama, can say “F[---] the police”,
    but WE can’t even use the word “black” in a sentence, the “discussion” hasn’t really even started.
     
    Sharpton is shown nothing but honor and respect by the President and the Mayor of New York City. Sharpton spoke to standing ovations at the 2004 Democrat National Convention. Sharpton has a show on a major media outlet (MSNBC), with major mainstream sponsors-- the same MSNBC that fired Patrick J. Buchanan.

    Obama was endorsed by Farrakahn. Obama was close for years with an anti-white, black supremacist, hate-spewing "Reverend" (Jeremiah Wright).

    The list goes on...

    But no "respectable" figure would dare cite John Derbyshire or Steve Sailer (except, perhaps, to denounce them).

    Such a skewed picture it is surreal.
  46. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @joef
    What a bunch of nonsense!!

    When you’ve nothing substantial to contribute, you might try the next button to the right.

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    • Replies: @joef
    I guess the ultimate logical conclusions of where this is all heading to is too much reality for you. Instead we must ignore it because it because its too harsh and politically incorrect. People can ignore reality but eventually it will not ignore you. And life and death violence is the ultimate objective reality. And yes I know a lot about it: I lived in it.
  47. @anonymous
    When you've nothing substantial to contribute, you might try the next button to the right.

    I guess the ultimate logical conclusions of where this is all heading to is too much reality for you. Instead we must ignore it because it because its too harsh and politically incorrect. People can ignore reality but eventually it will not ignore you. And life and death violence is the ultimate objective reality. And yes I know a lot about it: I lived in it.

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  48. @joef
    The unfortunate reality is that we will not accept reality - - we will just do what we have been doing for the last 50 years: more pandering and more entitlements. The fact that this combination has produced nothing but failure will not deter Leftist from continuing to deny reality.
    I believed that as local government defaults under economic stress would cause an increase in afro american criminal behavior. But now it will probably happen a lot sooner with the lack of qualified candidates wanting to be police officers, and a surge in retirements as well. With what is going on the only draw to becoming a cop is that there is no other jobs to be found.
    As the ranks start to diminish, and the remaining officers adopt an increasingly hands off attitude, out of self preservation, afro american violence will increase to previously unseen record levels.
    We really cannot expect them to do otherwise, because the more we pander the more emboldened they get, and with the demise of any deterrence to their criminality, there will be nothing to stop them. Of course to a Leftist this would be the equivalent to nirvana as they will attempt to expunge their own white guilt by celebrating atrocities committed against everyone else by afro americans.
    In the mean time the Leftist media/academic/political/legal complex will call for more gun control (which will not affect afro american violent offenders because guns will always be available by black market means). and attack any person's legitimate use of deadly force, to defend their own lives against this onslaught, as a racist activity.
    The only way this will end is badly when we will eventually economically collapse and cannot maintain our entitlement spending. The result of this is that afro americans will finally have their desired race war, and lose. Then we may start over again by doing things the right way (no need to worry about further Leftist interference in this case because without modern protections the Leftist will die off from natural selection).

    You are a good psychologist.

    If 95% of the world wouldn’t be forced to accept, out of awe, dollars that have no value any more according to every financial law, we can’t really figure how things would turn at this point.

    You seem to hope for a race war, thuogh, and I can’t agree on that.

    Besides,

    Then we may start over again by doing things the right way (no need to worry about further Leftist interference in this case because without modern protections the Leftist will die off from natural selection).

    You somehow sound like the typical leftist, lover of all humans but hater of every human that doesn’t play by the very same leftist script.

    It’s not about natural selection. It’s that where there is real progress, and move onward, leftists “ideas” and “mindset” find no soil to grow on. On the contrary, they prosper in the times of decay; in a state of advanced decay, like in this day and age, “leftist” will be a byname for “masochistic”. (We can say this is due to natural selection of ideas.)

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    • Replies: @joef
    Is there a choice? Knowing where our present course of events will eventually lead us is not the same as wanting it. If afro americans gave up their violence and blame whitey first attitudes no one will be happier than me. But unfortunately I do not have any indication that this will happen. This is especially so because their are so many white apologist and panderers who run cover for every afro american dysfunction.
    As I said race war is not good, and their will be much suffering. Those who will suffer most are legit blacks who don't subscribe to the nonsense because they will be getting it from both sides -- there own will be attacking them as traitors - - and other races may shoot first and ask questions later under those types of circumstances. They will have the most to lose.
    But if it is pushed upon us, than the only thing left is to respond to it, and attempt to rebuild from there. This process is being chosen by afro americans, and the leftist who irresponsibly push for balkanization. Add this irresponsible balkanization with bad economics is a formula for national disaster.
    In other words I am not choosing for race war (what lunatic would), I am simply responding to what is thrust upon us. Throughout history civilizations on every continent have collapsed, and the unfortunate ones who are left attempt to rebuild it to varying success. This historical process sometimes takes generations, or lifetimes, or centuries.
    No wish for race war, but I also know it cannot go on like this indefinitely either.
    Oh by the way, I consider myself a paleo conservative.
    , @AndrewR
    Who is hoping for a race war? I don't want it but it's obviously inevitable. Combine the current levels of anti-white sentiment, endemic violence and government dependency with economic collapse and what do you think will happen? Will blacks just sit down and starve? Magically learn to farm and hunt overnight? Protest until ???? Or will they spread into white areas and kill and loot as much as they can?
  49. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Glob is a Globalist Snob.

    The new elites have concocted a clever way to protect their preening privilege with PC preaching that combines high-toned haughtiness with self-righteous chest-beating.
    ‘Progressive’ dogma, or Progma, is a hybrid beast that must be killed.

    Unable to address reality with real thought and examination, they resort to slogans and catchphrases that are easily copied and muttered by anyone in the game.

    For the affluent, PC protects their privilege. It is like the passover sign that says ‘good whites here, go get the bad ones’.

    For those without affluence and privilege, PC gives them a false sense of ‘empowerment’, as if they’re committed to some great struggle for ‘justice’. Like with coppercab and chubby mark.
    They’ve no idea that they’re mere tools.

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    I'm looking forward to a similar selfie rant video from Derb called "Barack Obama RETIRES!!!!!!!"
  50. @pink_point
    You are a good psychologist.

    If 95% of the world wouldn't be forced to accept, out of awe, dollars that have no value any more according to every financial law, we can't really figure how things would turn at this point.

    You seem to hope for a race war, thuogh, and I can't agree on that.

    Besides,


    Then we may start over again by doing things the right way (no need to worry about further Leftist interference in this case because without modern protections the Leftist will die off from natural selection).
     
    You somehow sound like the typical leftist, lover of all humans but hater of every human that doesn't play by the very same leftist script.

    It's not about natural selection. It's that where there is real progress, and move onward, leftists "ideas" and "mindset" find no soil to grow on. On the contrary, they prosper in the times of decay; in a state of advanced decay, like in this day and age, "leftist" will be a byname for "masochistic". (We can say this is due to natural selection of ideas.)

    Is there a choice? Knowing where our present course of events will eventually lead us is not the same as wanting it. If afro americans gave up their violence and blame whitey first attitudes no one will be happier than me. But unfortunately I do not have any indication that this will happen. This is especially so because their are so many white apologist and panderers who run cover for every afro american dysfunction.
    As I said race war is not good, and their will be much suffering. Those who will suffer most are legit blacks who don’t subscribe to the nonsense because they will be getting it from both sides — there own will be attacking them as traitors – – and other races may shoot first and ask questions later under those types of circumstances. They will have the most to lose.
    But if it is pushed upon us, than the only thing left is to respond to it, and attempt to rebuild from there. This process is being chosen by afro americans, and the leftist who irresponsibly push for balkanization. Add this irresponsible balkanization with bad economics is a formula for national disaster.
    In other words I am not choosing for race war (what lunatic would), I am simply responding to what is thrust upon us. Throughout history civilizations on every continent have collapsed, and the unfortunate ones who are left attempt to rebuild it to varying success. This historical process sometimes takes generations, or lifetimes, or centuries.
    No wish for race war, but I also know it cannot go on like this indefinitely either.
    Oh by the way, I consider myself a paleo conservative.

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  51. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    We live in a culture that is addicted to cult of ‘badass cool’.

    So, as long as black dysfunction is made ‘cool’ via rap music, black thug athletes, and gangster machismo, many young people don’t care. They worship and emulate blacks.

    Americans prefer badass cool(even if destructive and dysfunctional) to sane and proper(if seen as square and ‘white bread’). Americans love sports and pop music, and both are related to black dysfunctions of rage, violence, and aggression that are now deemed ‘cool’.

    But, there are some 14/88 types who are similarly addicted to neo-nazism because they think the Nazis were so cool and badass in blowing things up.
    They love the Nazis like some people love the helicopter scene in APOCALYPSE NOW.

    It’s human nature.

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  52. @jtgw
    Are you sure that government bloat is caused by black misbehavior? It seems that black misbehavior and social indicators got worse after Johnson's Great Society, not before.

    The beginning of the Great Society corresponded with the end of Jim Crow laws and practices, which had served to keep black violence in check by the fear of instant extra-judicial retribution and in keeping racial tensions lower by separating blacks and whites to a large extent. Hard to figure out where one began and the other ended.

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    • Replies: @JackOH
    Agree. I've commented elsewhere on "UR" that Great Society laws plus 1960s rioting gave Blacks enormous undue leverage over Whites that they'd never had before. Permanent sense of entitled grievance, accommodation, appeasement. (Yeah, I think the informal de facto Jim Crow "worked" in my Northern city. There's at least one Black writer who agrees. Relations between Blacks and Whites were cordial, and there was a civil "space" between the two.)

    Someone with the right street smarts and intellect needs to publicly ask when do Black grievances end? Maybe a 600-750 word piece for "WaPo" or "NYT"? Maybe salt the piece with a proposal that Blacks be offered a onetime payment of $10 thousand per person (about a half-trillion total) in exchange for voiding Great Society laws and their anti-White offspring.

    FWIW-I'm a deep pessimist regarding race relations, mostly because Whites seem to have internalized that the opposite of appeasement is racism.
    , @jtgw
    I agree that the causal relations between legal desegregation, expansion of welfare and rise in black dysfunction is difficult to disentangle. However, we fortunately have a control case: the unsegregated North. Prior to the 1960s, the North mostly adhered to the libertarian ideal of freedom of association. Few laws forbade blacks from associating with whites, but then few laws compelled such association, either. The result was a high degree of de facto segregation, as the different races naturally preferred to associate with their own kind, but also a relative absence of interracial friction. Under those conditions, blacks were still able to advance themselves e.g. by taking up factory jobs that paid better than sharecropping. Indicators like household wealth and literacy were all going up, until the Great Society undercut these advances by punishing honest work and rewarding idleness and criminality. Note that white working class families were also strongly affected by these changes, as Charles Murray has documented.
    , @Corvinus
    Jim Crow laws was the tool by greedy Southrons to maintain white political and social control in the aftermath of Reconstruction. Had they kept their end of the "promise"--separate but equal accommodations--perhaps blacks living there would have obliged. The black violence came when Southerners in general refused to honor the spirit of the law, which necessitated federal intervention. The South brought it upon themselves.
  53. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    EEOC has sued private companies that use criminal history as a factor in hiring. And Obama has expanded the prohibition of using criminal history as a factor in hiring for federal jobs.

    The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) is publishing a proposed rule that would prohibit federal agencies from asking questions about criminal and credit history to applicants for tens of thousands of jobs in the competitive service, as well as the career senior executive service, until a conditional offer of employment has been made. People with criminal records are already eligible to compete for the vast majority of federal jobs; the proposed rule builds on current practice at many agencies by ensuring that hiring managers are making selection decisions based solely on applicants’ qualifications.

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/fact-sheet-during-national-reentry-week-reducing-barriers-reentry-and-employment-formerly

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  54. @KenH

    Knowing that they hate us, and how impulsively violent too many of them are, we fear them more than ever.
     
    I wouldn't characterize it as fear. Whites are just very law abiding and very wary of the legal ramifications of conflict with blacks. When whites violently tangle with blacks and win there is a presumption of white racism instead of innocence.

    Some may remember the story several years ago of a white NYC judge who often ruled against white males even when the evidence favored their cases so he could help the underdog black man. He sentenced a white man who justifiably defended himself against a black aggressor to 20yrs in prison. He was stricken by pangs of conscience in old age and admitted his race bias against his own race. IMO this judge is just the tip of the iceberg within our "justice system".

    It's time to file for divorce. Immediate re-segregation and eventual racial partition is the only workable solution, but our block headed pols, including the supposedly PC defying Trump will never, ever go there. So blacks will keep killing whites and occasionally whites will get angry and kill some of them.

    White judge says he sent a white man to prison because of racial bias
    By Haimy Assefa, CNN, Fri December 13, 2013

    [MORE]

    A former Brooklyn judge testified on Wednesday to ask that a man he convicted of murder 15 years ago be freed, saying he was racially biased during the 1998 trial.

    Frank Barbaro, who is white, said he now believes his decision to convict Donald Kagan, also white, for the murder of an African-American man named Wavell Wint was a result of his “subliminal fight against racism,” he told CNN.

    Barbaro was convinced that Kagan was racist and wanted to kill a black person, Barbaro said.

    Wint was shot and killed outside a movie theater in the East New York neighborhood of Brooklyn when the two men got into a fight involving Kagan’s gold chain necklace, Barbaro said.

    Barbaro said he gave little consideration to the self-defense argument presented by Jeff Adler, Kagan’s attorney, because he was blinded by his experience as a civil rights activist earlier in life.

    The former judge was 18 years old when he became deeply involved in issues of racial inequality. His experience caused him to be “repulsed by racial discrimination against black people,” Barbaro said.

    The former judge said he saw Kagan as a white man who “assassinated” an African-American.

    In a nonjury trial, Barbaro convicted Kagan of second degree murder and criminal possession of a weapon, sentencing the man to 15 years to life.

    In the years since the trail, Barbaro said he continued to revisit the case in his mind. He said he noticed a growing number of stories in the media about wrongful murder convictions, which caused him to further doubt his decision.

    In 2011, Barbaro said he contacted Kagan’s attorney to express his doubt.

    When Barbaro read the court transcripts, he said, it became apparent to him that he ignored undisputed facts that support Adler’s self-defense argument. Kagan tried to walk away from Wint twice during the verbal and physical altercation, Barbaro said.

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    • Replies: @KenH
    Thanks for the detective work. I was too lazy to look for the story but did recall it was in the NYC area.
  55. @jtgw
    Perhaps all these regulations make it more difficult for poor people to comply with traffic ordinances and that's why poor people tend to bear the brunt of traffic law enforcement? It's the same reason that regulation of businesses and entrepreneurs harms poor people disproportionately; it makes it much harder for them to stand up on their own two feet when the government artificially raises the price of entry with all these ordinances.

    There is that. But, re Ferguson, the community is overwhelmingly black and the local government overwhelmingly white. Why? Do they not bother to vote without being offered a ride and a pack of cigarettes?

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  56. @MEH 0910
    White judge says he sent a white man to prison because of racial bias
    By Haimy Assefa, CNN, Fri December 13, 2013

    A former Brooklyn judge testified on Wednesday to ask that a man he convicted of murder 15 years ago be freed, saying he was racially biased during the 1998 trial.

    Frank Barbaro, who is white, said he now believes his decision to convict Donald Kagan, also white, for the murder of an African-American man named Wavell Wint was a result of his "subliminal fight against racism," he told CNN.

    Barbaro was convinced that Kagan was racist and wanted to kill a black person, Barbaro said.

    Wint was shot and killed outside a movie theater in the East New York neighborhood of Brooklyn when the two men got into a fight involving Kagan's gold chain necklace, Barbaro said.

    Barbaro said he gave little consideration to the self-defense argument presented by Jeff Adler, Kagan's attorney, because he was blinded by his experience as a civil rights activist earlier in life.

    The former judge was 18 years old when he became deeply involved in issues of racial inequality. His experience caused him to be "repulsed by racial discrimination against black people," Barbaro said.

    The former judge said he saw Kagan as a white man who "assassinated" an African-American.

    In a nonjury trial, Barbaro convicted Kagan of second degree murder and criminal possession of a weapon, sentencing the man to 15 years to life.

    In the years since the trail, Barbaro said he continued to revisit the case in his mind. He said he noticed a growing number of stories in the media about wrongful murder convictions, which caused him to further doubt his decision.

    In 2011, Barbaro said he contacted Kagan's attorney to express his doubt.

    When Barbaro read the court transcripts, he said, it became apparent to him that he ignored undisputed facts that support Adler's self-defense argument. Kagan tried to walk away from Wint twice during the verbal and physical altercation, Barbaro said.
     

    Thanks for the detective work. I was too lazy to look for the story but did recall it was in the NYC area.

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  57. @Diversity Heretic
    The beginning of the Great Society corresponded with the end of Jim Crow laws and practices, which had served to keep black violence in check by the fear of instant extra-judicial retribution and in keeping racial tensions lower by separating blacks and whites to a large extent. Hard to figure out where one began and the other ended.

    Agree. I’ve commented elsewhere on “UR” that Great Society laws plus 1960s rioting gave Blacks enormous undue leverage over Whites that they’d never had before. Permanent sense of entitled grievance, accommodation, appeasement. (Yeah, I think the informal de facto Jim Crow “worked” in my Northern city. There’s at least one Black writer who agrees. Relations between Blacks and Whites were cordial, and there was a civil “space” between the two.)

    Someone with the right street smarts and intellect needs to publicly ask when do Black grievances end? Maybe a 600-750 word piece for “WaPo” or “NYT”? Maybe salt the piece with a proposal that Blacks be offered a onetime payment of $10 thousand per person (about a half-trillion total) in exchange for voiding Great Society laws and their anti-White offspring.

    FWIW-I’m a deep pessimist regarding race relations, mostly because Whites seem to have internalized that the opposite of appeasement is racism.

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    There is a big difference between de jure and de facto segregation, which seems to be lost on both the SJW left and parts of the alt-right.
  58. I wonder how much longer big-city politicians can rely on the police to protect them from hordes of Africans while scapegoating the police whenever anything goes wrong. At some point cops will start routinely killing blacks, politicians will order those cops arrested, their orders will be ignored, and blacks will discover that protesting in groups makes them easy targets for KKK snipers who the cops can’t ever seem to catch.

    I think the Derb’s articles have gotten better since National Review fired him. Years ago NR was high on my bookmark list. Now I haven’t read NR in months, but I read Derb all the time.

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  59. @Diversity Heretic
    The beginning of the Great Society corresponded with the end of Jim Crow laws and practices, which had served to keep black violence in check by the fear of instant extra-judicial retribution and in keeping racial tensions lower by separating blacks and whites to a large extent. Hard to figure out where one began and the other ended.

    I agree that the causal relations between legal desegregation, expansion of welfare and rise in black dysfunction is difficult to disentangle. However, we fortunately have a control case: the unsegregated North. Prior to the 1960s, the North mostly adhered to the libertarian ideal of freedom of association. Few laws forbade blacks from associating with whites, but then few laws compelled such association, either. The result was a high degree of de facto segregation, as the different races naturally preferred to associate with their own kind, but also a relative absence of interracial friction. Under those conditions, blacks were still able to advance themselves e.g. by taking up factory jobs that paid better than sharecropping. Indicators like household wealth and literacy were all going up, until the Great Society undercut these advances by punishing honest work and rewarding idleness and criminality. Note that white working class families were also strongly affected by these changes, as Charles Murray has documented.

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  60. @JackOH
    Agree. I've commented elsewhere on "UR" that Great Society laws plus 1960s rioting gave Blacks enormous undue leverage over Whites that they'd never had before. Permanent sense of entitled grievance, accommodation, appeasement. (Yeah, I think the informal de facto Jim Crow "worked" in my Northern city. There's at least one Black writer who agrees. Relations between Blacks and Whites were cordial, and there was a civil "space" between the two.)

    Someone with the right street smarts and intellect needs to publicly ask when do Black grievances end? Maybe a 600-750 word piece for "WaPo" or "NYT"? Maybe salt the piece with a proposal that Blacks be offered a onetime payment of $10 thousand per person (about a half-trillion total) in exchange for voiding Great Society laws and their anti-White offspring.

    FWIW-I'm a deep pessimist regarding race relations, mostly because Whites seem to have internalized that the opposite of appeasement is racism.

    There is a big difference between de jure and de facto segregation, which seems to be lost on both the SJW left and parts of the alt-right.

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    Agree. I ought to have said de facto segregation for my Northern city, not de facto Jim Crow, which is misleading. The de facto segregation in my town was permeable, elastic, spotty, informal, and "privately managed". E. g., one downtown theater was known for whisking Black youngsters into the balcony; other theaters did not. A multi-chair Black-owned barbershop downtown enjoyed a big, diverse White clientele, partly because the more convenient neighborhood barbershops were one-chair affairs with an overwhelmingly mono-ethnic clientele.

    My memory may be shaky, my judgment likewise, but de facto segregation was a way for people of vastly different backgrounds and experiences to get along with one another. Good fences, good neighbors.
  61. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Maybe you Americans need a two-state solution?

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    Yitzhak, we thought you were dead!
    , @Avery
    We Americans already have a 50-state solution.
    A couple centuries before Israel came into existence.

    And don't lecture the taxpayers whose largess and generosity makes your little country's continued existence possible.
  62. When the political system is run by Goodwhites intent on placing the costs of their virtue-signaling on others, those who can do so redeploy their assets & time toward providing the protection and order the political system fails to provide.

    From waves of gun purchases & concealed carry to early adopters abandoning the university-PC black hole, those capable of high productivity & success are compelled to privately reproduce what their state fails.

    These folks are also the geese who lay the golden eggs everyone today feels entitled to have. It has only worked this long because the producers have ridden the cresting wave of illusory prosperity yielded by the largest credit bubble in history.

    When the bubble finally pops, those funding the virtue signals will cease consenting.

    That’s the change baked into the cake.

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  63. @Diversity Heretic
    The beginning of the Great Society corresponded with the end of Jim Crow laws and practices, which had served to keep black violence in check by the fear of instant extra-judicial retribution and in keeping racial tensions lower by separating blacks and whites to a large extent. Hard to figure out where one began and the other ended.

    Jim Crow laws was the tool by greedy Southrons to maintain white political and social control in the aftermath of Reconstruction. Had they kept their end of the “promise”–separate but equal accommodations–perhaps blacks living there would have obliged. The black violence came when Southerners in general refused to honor the spirit of the law, which necessitated federal intervention. The South brought it upon themselves.

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    Separate but equal is impossible because the people are not equal.
    , @Crawfurdmuir

    The black violence came when Southerners in general refused to honor the spirit of the law, which necessitated federal intervention. The South brought it upon themselves.
     
    I remember the 'sixties civil rights movement reasonably well, and do not recall that black violence took place particularly in the South. Black protests in the South were largely peaceful, and most of the violence there was on the parts of whites (e.g., the murders of Medgar Evers, Viola Liuzzo, Schwerner, Goodman, and Chaney). Most of the black rioting took place outside the South, e.g., in Chicago, Detroit, Watts, Baltimore, and Washington, D.C. (whether the last two should be considered parts of the South is questionable).
  64. Until today, in twenty years of either covering cops professionally or following the news, I had never seen anything by a journalist that catches what the actual cop actually on an actual street actually faces and thinks. Derbyshire has it exactly right. I am sore impressed.

    The streets are not what columnists think–except with the aforementioned exception–or what liberals think or conservatives think, or anyone thinks who hasn’t been there. They are wild, crazy, dangerous, often vicious, and don’t fit any pattern. Tryng to impose niceness on them is a fool’s errand. The media are full of errand boys.

    Anyone wanting confirmation, such as perhaps Derbyshire, would do well to read The Job, by Steve Osborne, a New York cop–it’s on Amazon-or better yet the audio version at Audible.com, read by Osborne.

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    So Fred ,does this men you're not going to kick Derb's ass anymore?
    , @joef
    Agreed because I have been there & seen the anarchy of the streets produced by afro americans.
    We must examine exactly where all this is going, recognizing that afro americans have killed more of their fellow citizens than any other categorized group, including terrorist (& the only thing worse is war):
    Lets first acknowledge that we are doing everything possible to appease them:
    >> Free housing;
    >> Free food;
    >> Free education;
    >> Affirmative action in the workplace and Universities;
    >> Grade inflation for their self esteem (which now other millennials are benefiting from as well);
    >> Unqualified quota promotions;
    >> Ubiquitous MSM praise;
    >> Revisionist history to make them feel good;
    >> EBT cards
    >> No money down, no income verification auto loans, which according to St Louis FRED is now up to $1 trillion dollars (this is another feature that now has migrated among the general population).
    >> The whole housing bubble crisis of 2008 has its genesis with Clinton's anti red lining laws where the Justice Dept threatened to sue banks if they did not provide subprime home mortgages to unqualified afro americans (another thing started for afro american appeasement, migrated to the rest of society, and ended in complete disaster!!);
    >> Lighter sentencing for afro american violent felons (what the liberals do not understand is that there proportionally more afro americans in prison is because they commit the most violent felonies, and thats with the catch and release program of the modern justice system).
    >> Providing unqualified professional degrees (I had friend who is a doc who seen this first hand with a afro american MD trying to get a pulse in the ER from a patient who was already pronounced dead for a half hour!);
    >> An election of the first black president.

    If they were appreciative of what they are getting, I could live with the sacrifice. But instead their resentment just keeps on growing and their demands are never ending. They are not even apologetic about all the ruined lives they have caused through violent crime. Yet with all this, its still not enough as their entitlements is a major cause of our nation's debt levels and associated economic decline. There are just demands for more, more , more, without an end to it.

    So what is their, and their liberal handlers goal then? Well it appears to be that they do not want to be held accountable, most of us always knew that. But it goes further, for it appears that they want to be able to behave any way they please, which includes violent criminal activity, and not be confronted by the police. Even further they want to be able to be a threat and not suffer the repercussions of that act of being a threat (and as the Trayvon incident represents, it does not matter if the incident involves the police). Thus you must forfeit your rights to protect your own life, and the life of others, through self defense, in order to meet the current demands of BLM movement.
    That is simply not an acceptable option. If libs like to play victim let them do it, but don't dictate to the rest of us (but thats what liberals do).

  65. @Anonymous
    Maybe you Americans need a two-state solution?

    We Americans already have a 50-state solution.
    A couple centuries before Israel came into existence.

    And don’t lecture the taxpayers whose largess and generosity makes your little country’s continued existence possible.

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    Even dead, he has a better sense of humor than you do.
  66. […] This is the Cold Civil War, Goodwhites against Badwhites. Blacks are mostly hors de combat. Blacks don’t make anything happen. Whites make everything happen. All whites, on both sides, know this. Nobody’s killing blacks out of “resentment.” […]

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  67. At what point does the People’s Republic of China intervene to protect their investment assets and dollars holdings? And how?

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  68. @jtgw
    There is a big difference between de jure and de facto segregation, which seems to be lost on both the SJW left and parts of the alt-right.

    Agree. I ought to have said de facto segregation for my Northern city, not de facto Jim Crow, which is misleading. The de facto segregation in my town was permeable, elastic, spotty, informal, and “privately managed”. E. g., one downtown theater was known for whisking Black youngsters into the balcony; other theaters did not. A multi-chair Black-owned barbershop downtown enjoyed a big, diverse White clientele, partly because the more convenient neighborhood barbershops were one-chair affairs with an overwhelmingly mono-ethnic clientele.

    My memory may be shaky, my judgment likewise, but de facto segregation was a way for people of vastly different backgrounds and experiences to get along with one another. Good fences, good neighbors.

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  69. @Avery
    We Americans already have a 50-state solution.
    A couple centuries before Israel came into existence.

    And don't lecture the taxpayers whose largess and generosity makes your little country's continued existence possible.

    Even dead, he has a better sense of humor than you do.

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    What's the matter [International Jew]: the fact that I brought up Israel is living off of American taxpayer generosity hurt your feelings?
  70. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Black Lives Matter?

    No, Loud Intimidation Works.

    Jews got Chutzpah.

    Homos got Poopchutzpah.

    Negroes got Hoodshootspah.

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  71. @Corvinus
    "I see two ways out, but neither is particularly pleasant: (1) partition of the U.S. and the creation of black homeland (I know, it’s Ghana next to Switzerland)"

    A coward's way out, yes. More importantly, are all whites on board with this proposal? Should they? If not, are they "anti-white".

    "(2) the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) ) in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers."

    Which is socialism. And, seriously, why are some "race realists" hell-bent on eugenics for only ONE group, when there are plenty of low IQ whites who also breed like rabbits.

    Praytell, how many children do YOU have? At least 5 white kids, right?

    "So we’ll stumble along until inter-tribal warfare becomes intolerable."

    I'll wait for the movie to come out.

    A cowards way out would be continuing the way we are and refusing to confront reality.

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  72. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    In the 70s and 80s when I grew up in the aftermath of 60s mess, everyone knew about black crime.
    Even Libs knew about it. It was the era of ‘mugged by reality’. Few people had any illusion about blacks.

    But since the 90s, there was great reduction in crime, esp in some key cities where pampered kids grew up in whitopias. There are some cities that I recall was quite black when I was young. Today, I see that huge areas are mostly white or non-black.

    So, a whole generation of white millennials grew up without danger of black crime. And they have no idea about the Willie Horton Era since it’s been swept under the rug. They think all the fear of blacks in the past was some delusional mania, esp since academia and media are dominated by Libs. Also, black thuggery has been made ‘cool’ and fashionable via rap. It’s a fashion statement than actual black thugs robbing you and raping your mother.

    All this sense of security, privilege, and PC ‘white guilt’ made so many white millennials take their safety for granted. They began to question stuff like ‘stop and frisk’ and side with BLM.
    Lena Dunham grew up in whitened part of NY with almost no blacks. For her, black rage is just some abstract cause, not a fist in her face. Also, millennials, like X-ers, grew up with education and TV documentaries that sacralized the Civil Rights Movement but turned a total blind eye to the Black Rampage that followed and destroyed so many lives. But Cons have been silent too.

    Well, looks like another round of mayhem is about to hit the cities unless Section 8 works quickly enough to send the Negroes to the outlying areas.

    Remember that the 60s generation that so romanticized black violence also came of age in crime-free 50s and early 60s. So, they could romanticize black rage as noble.
    Had the boomer generation grown up with lots of black crime, they would not have been so naive.
    We see the same shit happening all over.

    Liberals who cleaned up the cities knew all too well about black crime and thuggery, but they remained mum about it even as they went about locking up the Negroes in the Clinton era.
    After all, the Narrative says Jews and white Libs and blacks are allies and pals.
    So, even as cities got tough on blacks, this neo-draconianism was masked by PC lingo about MLK holiness under which millennials were raised. Libs acted ‘racist’ to clean up the cities but had to remain mum about it. After all, it was the ‘racist’ Republicans who did the Willie Horton ad. Liberals, in contrast, implemented policies in fear of Willie Horton but hid the nature of their deed by praising Oprah. Blacks were so enthralled with Clinton smiling at them and being the ‘first black president’ that they failed to see that slick willy was pulling one on them.

    And of course, there was homomania to focus most Prog attention on happy queers than angry blacks. After all, even queenie meanies aren’t threatening like black thugs.
    (Homomania is less appealing now that ‘gay marriage’ happened’. So, there is hunger for the ‘great new cause’ or ‘great new hope’.)

    Origins of BLM shows a crack in the homo movement. Though Jews are only 2% of the homo community, they’ve dominated most of the organizations. Also, Jew Homos got most of the funding from rich Jews to make Homo = Jewish Agenda = Globalism.

    But blacks who began BLM don’t want homo agenda to compete and eclipse the Negro Demand. They want the homo agenda to serve the black rage agenda.
    Some white Libs see this as good sign in the sense of “if blacks come to accept homos more, maybe they will be less macho and threatening and more like Michael Jackson.”
    But it’s not working out that way. Homo Black Lesbians prefer bloody black rage to happy homo rainbow.
    White Lib hope of black mellowing via association with homo agenda is slipping. Pro-homo or anti-homo, blacks want to command the Narrative. They want the megaphone.

    It just so happens that black demands and white/Jewish urban plan are at loggerheads despite the charade that both sides are allies against the KKK and Trump.
    All this stuff about Dallas as ‘city of hate’ into ‘city of hope’ misses the central point. ‘Progressive’ agenda is anti-Brogressive 0r black brotha ‘progressive’.
    Brogressives want more free stuff for Negroes and want to command the Narrative. In contrast, the globo Progs may mutter nice pro-black things but their actual policies have led to gentrification(pushing blacks out), increased policing(locking up black thugs and racial profiling, esp in NY), more diversity(more immigration and more competition for blacks), and homomania(that drowned out black voices for most of Obama’s presidency).

    Globo-progressivism is ‘hate’ slipped into ‘hope’. Of course, affluent white ‘progressives’ will sacrifice the less fortunate of their own kind to maximize their own privilege. They will send blacks to OTHER white communities and don’t care if whites suffer as a result AS LONG AS their parts of the city are more gentrified and made safer.

    So, this is a crazy hybrid animal.

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    since the 90s, there was great reduction in crime, esp in some key cities where pampered kids grew up in whitopias. There are some cities that I recall was quite black when I was young. Today, I see that huge areas are mostly white or non-black.

    So, a whole generation of white millennials grew up without danger of black crime. And they have no idea about the Willie Horton Era since it’s been swept under the rug. They think all the fear of blacks in the past was some delusional mania, esp since academia and media are dominated by Libs. Also, black thuggery has been made ‘cool’ and fashionable via rap. It’s a fashion statement than actual black thugs robbing you and raping your mother.

    All this sense of security, privilege, and PC ‘white guilt’ made so many white millennials take their safety for granted.
     
    I think you're on to something here. Millenials have no personal recollection of seeing Reginald Denny nearly beaten to death in the LA Riots. And they've spent a lifetime watching leftist Hollywood propaganda in which black protagonists like Will Smith save the world.

    I would add that affirmative action allows cosseted white elites to cherry-pick a token number of trophy blacks they associate with in order virtue-signal other whites. But the cherry-picked tokens are not representative of the black population at large, so ironically the white hipsters pride themselves on "diversity" without ever being exposed to the true reality of it.
    , @Clyde
    Very good insights!
  73. @International Jew
    Even dead, he has a better sense of humor than you do.

    What’s the matter [International Jew]: the fact that I brought up Israel is living off of American taxpayer generosity hurt your feelings?

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    • Replies: @International Jew
    Better sense of humor and a stronger grasp of the facts.

    US aid to Israel amounts to 1% of Israel's GDP, so one can hardly say Israel is "living off the US taxpayer".
  74. @Fred Reed
    Until today, in twenty years of either covering cops professionally or following the news, I had never seen anything by a journalist that catches what the actual cop actually on an actual street actually faces and thinks. Derbyshire has it exactly right. I am sore impressed.

    The streets are not what columnists think--except with the aforementioned exception--or what liberals think or conservatives think, or anyone thinks who hasn't been there. They are wild, crazy, dangerous, often vicious, and don't fit any pattern. Tryng to impose niceness on them is a fool's errand. The media are full of errand boys.

    Anyone wanting confirmation, such as perhaps Derbyshire, would do well to read The Job, by Steve Osborne, a New York cop--it's on Amazon-or better yet the audio version at Audible.com, read by Osborne.

    So Fred ,does this men you’re not going to kick Derb’s ass anymore?

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    So Fred ,does this men you’re not going to kick Derb’s ass anymore?
     
    I guess he decided to kiss his ass a bit to make it feel better.
  75. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    The message of Pinker’s BETTER DEVILS OF OUR NATURE sounds more and more like “the world is getting better because things are getting better for Jews.”

    Things are getting better for Jews but not much for others. (But if Jews kill the host, won’t they die too eventually?)

    But look all around.

    Huge disaster all over Middle East and North Africa. It’s like world-war-level of violence.
    Iraq, Libya, and Syria have utterly been destroyed.

    Huge mess in Ukraine due to GLOB meddling.

    Huge mess in Europe due to Muslim-African invasion.

    Birth dearth in West and East Asia, with the people with highest IQ having fewest kids.

    Zio-Glob pushing for major wars with Russia and China.

    Socio-economic hell in Venezuela and Brazil.

    White Death phenom in the US. Drugs, suicide, loneliness.

    Vileness of globalist culture centered on mainstreaming of porn and black thuggery.

    Rise of tattooines. Ugly and uglier by the day. Demented.

    Homomania as the new spirituality of the West. This is spiritual and moral death of civilization that celebrates homo fecal-penetration and men cutting off dicks to get fake vaginas.

    BLM and return of black rage and white naivete that excuses black violence.
    Will cities see a return to black mayhem as cops are pressured to go easy on black thugs?

    Pinker seems to think we all learned the right lesson from the barbarism of the 70s, but apparently not so. Young people didn’t learn anything because they weren’t honestly informed of what brought back the cities from decline. Honest assessment would identify blacks and leftist radicalism as the main threat to civil order and civilization.
    It was the combo of black thuggery and leftist(often Jewish) radicalism in the late 60s and early 70s that set off criminal, cultural, and legal trends that wrecked entire cities. This was esp true of working class cities like Detroit.
    NY was hit bad but because its main bread and butter were finance and publishing(with little dependence on black labor and talent), it hobbled by and survived.

    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=6016

    http://www.nytimes.com/1989/04/23/books/we-were-disinformed.html

    By the late 70s, left radicalism had burnt itself out and whites lost innocence about blacks.
    From Reagan to Clinton, there was the gradual rise of order. More blacks got locked up. Even NYers chose Giuliani over Dinkins.

    But the media and academia never honestly stated the reason for the return of order and civility.
    Instead, even as the state got tougher on black crime, it also promoted the MLK and Mal X myth for the millennials who also grew up with rap music that lionized black thug sujbectivity or Thugjectivity.
    Rap made Thugjectivity the emotional center of even white college kids. And with porn available even to young kids today(parents no longer supervise their kids), white males grow up with cuck-mindset and white girls grow up with mudshark mindset, esp under the president who is the product of a black guy humping a white race traitor bitch who has been promoted as madonna to obama as messiah.

    So, BLM has a chance to unleash new demonic forces on cities and bring back 70s level of barbaric violence.

    Then, Pinker’s book will have been panglossian.

    Necessary policies were implemented since the 80s to restore order, but the Narrative has never been honest about who, what, and why. Hillary for one cannot explain her ‘super-predator’ comment and instead throws support at BLM to win votes.
    A dishonest narrative cannot defend and sustain necessary actions taken in the past to restore order.

    For Whom the Bell Curve Tolls. Murray and Herrenstein’s book was more prophetic.

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  76. @unit472
    I do not believe there is such a thing as 'driving while black' but 'driving while poor' is a reality for many. Philonde Castile had more than 60 traffic violations in his brief life. I'm twice his age and haven't had a traffic violation in 40 years and I used to drive more than 100 miles per day before I retired. The difference is my vehicles were in good condition and the paper work for them in order not that I was white.

    Look at Philonde's car:

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/08/16/3608F5AA00000578-3679678-image-a-1_1467991347117.jpg

    It is an aging piece of crap with rusted out rocker panels. He drove in a town of fewer than 25,000 people and was what is called a 'habitual offender'. Conduct a traffic stop and its almost certain he will be violating some ordinance or other. No insurance, suspended license, unpaid tickets etc. The sad thing is had Philonde spent the money he had paid in fines on keeping his vehicle and paper work in order he might be alive today. But poor people and especially poor black people don't look at that way. Why fix a tail light when you need to buy marijuana. Keeping your vehicle insured might leave you short of walking around money for the weekend. Better to risk getting pulled over than defer some immediate pleasures.

    Philande’s car was insured and his gun was licsence and he had a valid conceled weapons permit. He was employed and never convicted of a felony, paid taxes, and just living his life. He was not wealthy and living within his means. What does a black man have to do to have the benifit of the doubt when he is living his life? Yes , his car was a piece of shit-should he go into debt for something he cannot afford so he can get to and from work without getting pulled over? His paperwork was in order, his life was in order, and he still was shot by a jumpy cop -and you people on this blog go through contortions to find fault with him.

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    • Replies: @5371
    Even if all that were true, it appears that a Cop-Of-Colour wasn't up to his job and pulled the trigger before it was necessary. Why should white people again be blamed?
    , @epochehusserl
    Black men are 27 times more likely to attack whites than vice versa per the color of crime published by amren. You may disagree with the methodology but the numbers are not close by a long shot. What black men have to do to get the benefit of the doubt is lower that ratio.
    , @JackOH
    Agree. I think the National Rifle Association has issued a statement questioning the police officer's shooting of Castile. This case needs a thorough investigation. I wasn't there, of course, but what little I'm guessing at is that Castile appeared to be a guy trying to comply with a police order while knowing that his possession of a firearm could be misconstrued as unlawful.

    On a case-by-case basis, some Black folks seem to have genuine grievances that they've been treated badly because of racial animus. Those genuine grievances have to be sorted from the political chum we're all tired of.

    FWIW-last Friday in my area, an inmate with a documented history of mental illness attempted to strangle a sheriff's deputy in the jailhouse disciplinary pod. There was a struggle. Two other inmates entered the fray to save the deputy. One of them held the assailant; the other secured the deputy's taser and flashlight until other deputies arrived. The video of the incident was posted. The victim was White. His attacker--and his rescuers--were Black. I'm not sure if the incident makes a statement, but I think it's worth noting here.
    , @AndrewR
    He was a crip. I couldn't care less that he's dead.
  77. @Atlanta Man
    Philande's car was insured and his gun was licsence and he had a valid conceled weapons permit. He was employed and never convicted of a felony, paid taxes, and just living his life. He was not wealthy and living within his means. What does a black man have to do to have the benifit of the doubt when he is living his life? Yes , his car was a piece of shit-should he go into debt for something he cannot afford so he can get to and from work without getting pulled over? His paperwork was in order, his life was in order, and he still was shot by a jumpy cop -and you people on this blog go through contortions to find fault with him.

    Even if all that were true, it appears that a Cop-Of-Colour wasn’t up to his job and pulled the trigger before it was necessary. Why should white people again be blamed?

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    I am not blaming white people, I am blaming the officer in the MN shooting exclusively. In the other recent shootings things my be open to discussion due the circumstances, not in MN. In MN the man was shot while going out of the way to obey the law, was not a felon , and was in total compliance with conceled carry. I do not see how you could construe any of my comments to be blaming white people.
  78. These types of generalizations are harmful and factually inane. An individual, a human being, is not a statistical formulation.

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    • Replies: @WorkingClass
    Agreed. You helped me finally put my finger on what bothers me about these dogmatic pseudo geneticists. They think they have found a justification in science for judging individuals based on race. He's black therefore he is stupid and violent.
    , @gda
    But to ignore the correct statistical interpretation of the black/white IQ difference and the part genes play is to ignore the truth, just as we have been doing these past 50 years.

    Its a fact now that cops are more likely to shoot you if you're white than if you're black. Ask Derb to give you the figures.

    Its a fact that there are, statistically speaking, more blacks with STEM jobs than you would expect, given the requirement of having an IQ>115 to perform such a job adequately.

    Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males. The difference is genetic.

    So your claim about how "These types of generalizations are harmful and factually inane" is bull. That just perpetuates the false narratives of the grievance mongers that the reason blacks don't get ahead or are "unfaired" is because they "still suffer the effects of slavery and Jim Crow" or because "its all whitey's fault". Wake up and smell the coffee. You've been constantly lied to for all your life - use your brain to escape the lies. Many people do not have that capability, sadly.
  79. I’m afraid you’re very late to come to that conclusion. Your ‘morally conscientious’ White Christian ancestors should had realized that when they brought 10 million African slaves to the ‘civilized world’ while letting other 90 million slaves die during the journey.

    As for Dallas shooting is concerned, it’s as much an ‘inside job’ as were 9/11 and 7/7.

    On Friday, a Black dude shot and killed five policemen and wounded another seven cops at the anti-Police rally in Dallas. The shooter, Micah Johnson, a Christian, was named as Micah X by Jewish-controlled media to ridicule famous Afro-American Muslim Malcolm X. He was killed on the spot by a burst of police bullets.

    Johnson was a reservist with US Army’s Engineering Brigade. He served in Afghanistan and was awarded an Army Achievement Medal and a NATO Medal.

    Police found Bomb-making material, rifles and a combat journal at the home of Johnson.

    Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings claimed that Micah Johnson (being a non-Muslim)didn’t belong to a terrorist group. Last year Rawlings was honored by Dallas Holocaust Museum at a $350-plate dinner.

    Dallas police chief David O’Neal Brown said Micah Johnson was upset about the fatal police shootings of two #Black Lives Matters activists Castile in Minnesota and Alton Sterling in Louisiana. Brown got a call from Barack Obama from Warsaw where he was attending a NATO summit against Russia. Brown, like NYPD officials received his anti-protest training in Israel.

    The US Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said the gunman appeared to have acted alone, although Texas Governor Greg Abbott said police would continue down every rabbit trail – ensuring that we eliminate any other possible suspects or co-conspirators.

    Texas Governor Greg Abbott flew to Israel on Vegas Casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson’s private plane in January 2016. In June 2016, Abbott refused Obama’s request to lift Texas sanctions against Iran. Instead he urged other State Governors to maintain or put new sanctions against Iran which poses an “Existential threat” to Israel. Abbott has also declared BDS a hate organization that must be opposed.

    Johnson who had no previous criminal record until Friday shooting, was described by his Jewish basketball pal Israel Cooper: “It’s the quiet ones that just do the most devastating stuff.” No one is going to believe this idiot that Benjamin Netanyahu is a “quiet one”!

    Last year, at an event in Dallas sponsored by New York-based anti-Muslim Jewish group, American Defense Freedom Initiative, headed by Jewish Pam Gueller, was attacked by two shooters who didn’t like America’s “Freedom of Speech”. Interestingly, the two shooters were killed by police before they had killed anyone attending the event.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/07/10/dallas-shooting-another-false-flag-terror/

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    >I’m afraid you’re very late to come to that conclusion. Your ‘morally conscientious’ White Christian ancestors should had realized that when they brought 10 million African slaves to the ‘civilized world’ while letting other 90 million slaves die during the journey.

    Hordes of Muslims took Blacks for slaves. And there were Black slave hunters and users in Africa.
    , @gda
    I am loathe to point out facts to disturb your narrative here, but its a fact that slavery was rather rampant everywhere in the world up until almost 200 years ago, when WHITE Christians finally put a stop to it. Were it not for those WHITE Christians, slavery would undoubtedly still be popular and widely practised today.

    You might note another not unconnected fact - that modern society and western civilization was overwhelmingly brought about by WHITE Christians.

    The White Mans Burden was and continues to be a very real thing. Thanks to WHITE civilization, BLM and their ilk are able to have the opportunity to lead us down the garden path back to barbarism.
  80. Here, for example, is Mark Dayton, the Governor of Minnesota, a former Senator from that state, a Democrat, and the living, breathing embodiment of the Midwestern Nice style—a style which, as I have opined before, may one day be the death of us all.

    First of all, Dayton is a clown and there’s nothing “nice”about him. An utterly worthless PoS.

    Second, the cornball concept, “Minnesota Nice” is as bogus as a ski hill in Key West and always has been no matter how many times you’ve “opined” it. Scribblers who spread such mawkish road apples ought to have their pens confiscated and be forced to make a public apology. They should also have enough self respect to refrain from uttering such utterly sappy crap and need to be informed that expressing such concepts reveals such a laughably superficial analysis of reality that any rational reader would discard the rest of the article out of hand.

    Just another junk article. Excuse me while I go take a shower. Minnesota nice, ya know!

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  81. @Corvinus
    "I see two ways out, but neither is particularly pleasant: (1) partition of the U.S. and the creation of black homeland (I know, it’s Ghana next to Switzerland)"

    A coward's way out, yes. More importantly, are all whites on board with this proposal? Should they? If not, are they "anti-white".

    "(2) the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) ) in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers."

    Which is socialism. And, seriously, why are some "race realists" hell-bent on eugenics for only ONE group, when there are plenty of low IQ whites who also breed like rabbits.

    Praytell, how many children do YOU have? At least 5 white kids, right?

    "So we’ll stumble along until inter-tribal warfare becomes intolerable."

    I'll wait for the movie to come out.

    Cowardice: Failure to provide Corvinus with gibsmedats

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  82. @Simon in London
    Judging by UK experience, where by and large the races are treated equally within a Liberal narrative frame, equal treatment would help a bit. Certainly there isn't the same level of inter-racial hostility here as in the USA, despite the best efforts of the cultural Marxists to whip up US-style hatred of whites.

    Judging by UK experience, where by and large the races are treated equally within a Liberal narrative frame, equal treatment would help a bit. Certainly there isn’t the same level of inter-racial hostility here as in the USA

    Really? What about the 2011 riots? And Brixton?

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    Really does not compare to US situation. Eg the 2011 riots did not target whites; white lower class & eastern Europeans joined in the looting.
  83. @Atlanta Man
    Philande's car was insured and his gun was licsence and he had a valid conceled weapons permit. He was employed and never convicted of a felony, paid taxes, and just living his life. He was not wealthy and living within his means. What does a black man have to do to have the benifit of the doubt when he is living his life? Yes , his car was a piece of shit-should he go into debt for something he cannot afford so he can get to and from work without getting pulled over? His paperwork was in order, his life was in order, and he still was shot by a jumpy cop -and you people on this blog go through contortions to find fault with him.

    Black men are 27 times more likely to attack whites than vice versa per the color of crime published by amren. You may disagree with the methodology but the numbers are not close by a long shot. What black men have to do to get the benefit of the doubt is lower that ratio.

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  84. @Atlanta Man
    Philande's car was insured and his gun was licsence and he had a valid conceled weapons permit. He was employed and never convicted of a felony, paid taxes, and just living his life. He was not wealthy and living within his means. What does a black man have to do to have the benifit of the doubt when he is living his life? Yes , his car was a piece of shit-should he go into debt for something he cannot afford so he can get to and from work without getting pulled over? His paperwork was in order, his life was in order, and he still was shot by a jumpy cop -and you people on this blog go through contortions to find fault with him.

    Agree. I think the National Rifle Association has issued a statement questioning the police officer’s shooting of Castile. This case needs a thorough investigation. I wasn’t there, of course, but what little I’m guessing at is that Castile appeared to be a guy trying to comply with a police order while knowing that his possession of a firearm could be misconstrued as unlawful.

    On a case-by-case basis, some Black folks seem to have genuine grievances that they’ve been treated badly because of racial animus. Those genuine grievances have to be sorted from the political chum we’re all tired of.

    FWIW-last Friday in my area, an inmate with a documented history of mental illness attempted to strangle a sheriff’s deputy in the jailhouse disciplinary pod. There was a struggle. Two other inmates entered the fray to save the deputy. One of them held the assailant; the other secured the deputy’s taser and flashlight until other deputies arrived. The video of the incident was posted. The victim was White. His attacker–and his rescuers–were Black. I’m not sure if the incident makes a statement, but I think it’s worth noting here.

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  85. @Priss Factor
    In the 70s and 80s when I grew up in the aftermath of 60s mess, everyone knew about black crime.
    Even Libs knew about it. It was the era of 'mugged by reality'. Few people had any illusion about blacks.

    But since the 90s, there was great reduction in crime, esp in some key cities where pampered kids grew up in whitopias. There are some cities that I recall was quite black when I was young. Today, I see that huge areas are mostly white or non-black.

    So, a whole generation of white millennials grew up without danger of black crime. And they have no idea about the Willie Horton Era since it's been swept under the rug. They think all the fear of blacks in the past was some delusional mania, esp since academia and media are dominated by Libs. Also, black thuggery has been made 'cool' and fashionable via rap. It's a fashion statement than actual black thugs robbing you and raping your mother.

    All this sense of security, privilege, and PC 'white guilt' made so many white millennials take their safety for granted. They began to question stuff like 'stop and frisk' and side with BLM.
    Lena Dunham grew up in whitened part of NY with almost no blacks. For her, black rage is just some abstract cause, not a fist in her face. Also, millennials, like X-ers, grew up with education and TV documentaries that sacralized the Civil Rights Movement but turned a total blind eye to the Black Rampage that followed and destroyed so many lives. But Cons have been silent too.

    Well, looks like another round of mayhem is about to hit the cities unless Section 8 works quickly enough to send the Negroes to the outlying areas.

    Remember that the 60s generation that so romanticized black violence also came of age in crime-free 50s and early 60s. So, they could romanticize black rage as noble.
    Had the boomer generation grown up with lots of black crime, they would not have been so naive.
    We see the same shit happening all over.

    Liberals who cleaned up the cities knew all too well about black crime and thuggery, but they remained mum about it even as they went about locking up the Negroes in the Clinton era.
    After all, the Narrative says Jews and white Libs and blacks are allies and pals.
    So, even as cities got tough on blacks, this neo-draconianism was masked by PC lingo about MLK holiness under which millennials were raised. Libs acted 'racist' to clean up the cities but had to remain mum about it. After all, it was the 'racist' Republicans who did the Willie Horton ad. Liberals, in contrast, implemented policies in fear of Willie Horton but hid the nature of their deed by praising Oprah. Blacks were so enthralled with Clinton smiling at them and being the 'first black president' that they failed to see that slick willy was pulling one on them.

    And of course, there was homomania to focus most Prog attention on happy queers than angry blacks. After all, even queenie meanies aren't threatening like black thugs.
    (Homomania is less appealing now that 'gay marriage' happened'. So, there is hunger for the 'great new cause' or 'great new hope'.)

    Origins of BLM shows a crack in the homo movement. Though Jews are only 2% of the homo community, they've dominated most of the organizations. Also, Jew Homos got most of the funding from rich Jews to make Homo = Jewish Agenda = Globalism.

    But blacks who began BLM don't want homo agenda to compete and eclipse the Negro Demand. They want the homo agenda to serve the black rage agenda.
    Some white Libs see this as good sign in the sense of "if blacks come to accept homos more, maybe they will be less macho and threatening and more like Michael Jackson."
    But it's not working out that way. Homo Black Lesbians prefer bloody black rage to happy homo rainbow.
    White Lib hope of black mellowing via association with homo agenda is slipping. Pro-homo or anti-homo, blacks want to command the Narrative. They want the megaphone.

    It just so happens that black demands and white/Jewish urban plan are at loggerheads despite the charade that both sides are allies against the KKK and Trump.
    All this stuff about Dallas as 'city of hate' into 'city of hope' misses the central point. 'Progressive' agenda is anti-Brogressive 0r black brotha 'progressive'.
    Brogressives want more free stuff for Negroes and want to command the Narrative. In contrast, the globo Progs may mutter nice pro-black things but their actual policies have led to gentrification(pushing blacks out), increased policing(locking up black thugs and racial profiling, esp in NY), more diversity(more immigration and more competition for blacks), and homomania(that drowned out black voices for most of Obama's presidency).

    Globo-progressivism is 'hate' slipped into 'hope'. Of course, affluent white 'progressives' will sacrifice the less fortunate of their own kind to maximize their own privilege. They will send blacks to OTHER white communities and don't care if whites suffer as a result AS LONG AS their parts of the city are more gentrified and made safer.

    So, this is a crazy hybrid animal.

    since the 90s, there was great reduction in crime, esp in some key cities where pampered kids grew up in whitopias. There are some cities that I recall was quite black when I was young. Today, I see that huge areas are mostly white or non-black.

    So, a whole generation of white millennials grew up without danger of black crime. And they have no idea about the Willie Horton Era since it’s been swept under the rug. They think all the fear of blacks in the past was some delusional mania, esp since academia and media are dominated by Libs. Also, black thuggery has been made ‘cool’ and fashionable via rap. It’s a fashion statement than actual black thugs robbing you and raping your mother.

    All this sense of security, privilege, and PC ‘white guilt’ made so many white millennials take their safety for granted.

    I think you’re on to something here. Millenials have no personal recollection of seeing Reginald Denny nearly beaten to death in the LA Riots. And they’ve spent a lifetime watching leftist Hollywood propaganda in which black protagonists like Will Smith save the world.

    I would add that affirmative action allows cosseted white elites to cherry-pick a token number of trophy blacks they associate with in order virtue-signal other whites. But the cherry-picked tokens are not representative of the black population at large, so ironically the white hipsters pride themselves on “diversity” without ever being exposed to the true reality of it.

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  86. Black crime…blah blah blah.

    Hillary and it’s ilk are still more of a threat to all of us.

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  87. [Stop playing sock-puppetry games by repeatedly changing your handle. Pick one handle and stick to it (or use Anonymous/Anon), or prepare to see all your future comments summarily trashed.]

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  88. @Fred Reed
    Until today, in twenty years of either covering cops professionally or following the news, I had never seen anything by a journalist that catches what the actual cop actually on an actual street actually faces and thinks. Derbyshire has it exactly right. I am sore impressed.

    The streets are not what columnists think--except with the aforementioned exception--or what liberals think or conservatives think, or anyone thinks who hasn't been there. They are wild, crazy, dangerous, often vicious, and don't fit any pattern. Tryng to impose niceness on them is a fool's errand. The media are full of errand boys.

    Anyone wanting confirmation, such as perhaps Derbyshire, would do well to read The Job, by Steve Osborne, a New York cop--it's on Amazon-or better yet the audio version at Audible.com, read by Osborne.

    Agreed because I have been there & seen the anarchy of the streets produced by afro americans.
    We must examine exactly where all this is going, recognizing that afro americans have killed more of their fellow citizens than any other categorized group, including terrorist (& the only thing worse is war):
    Lets first acknowledge that we are doing everything possible to appease them:
    >> Free housing;
    >> Free food;
    >> Free education;
    >> Affirmative action in the workplace and Universities;
    >> Grade inflation for their self esteem (which now other millennials are benefiting from as well);
    >> Unqualified quota promotions;
    >> Ubiquitous MSM praise;
    >> Revisionist history to make them feel good;
    >> EBT cards
    >> No money down, no income verification auto loans, which according to St Louis FRED is now up to $1 trillion dollars (this is another feature that now has migrated among the general population).
    >> The whole housing bubble crisis of 2008 has its genesis with Clinton’s anti red lining laws where the Justice Dept threatened to sue banks if they did not provide subprime home mortgages to unqualified afro americans (another thing started for afro american appeasement, migrated to the rest of society, and ended in complete disaster!!);
    >> Lighter sentencing for afro american violent felons (what the liberals do not understand is that there proportionally more afro americans in prison is because they commit the most violent felonies, and thats with the catch and release program of the modern justice system).
    >> Providing unqualified professional degrees (I had friend who is a doc who seen this first hand with a afro american MD trying to get a pulse in the ER from a patient who was already pronounced dead for a half hour!);
    >> An election of the first black president.

    If they were appreciative of what they are getting, I could live with the sacrifice. But instead their resentment just keeps on growing and their demands are never ending. They are not even apologetic about all the ruined lives they have caused through violent crime. Yet with all this, its still not enough as their entitlements is a major cause of our nation’s debt levels and associated economic decline. There are just demands for more, more , more, without an end to it.

    So what is their, and their liberal handlers goal then? Well it appears to be that they do not want to be held accountable, most of us always knew that. But it goes further, for it appears that they want to be able to behave any way they please, which includes violent criminal activity, and not be confronted by the police. Even further they want to be able to be a threat and not suffer the repercussions of that act of being a threat (and as the Trayvon incident represents, it does not matter if the incident involves the police). Thus you must forfeit your rights to protect your own life, and the life of others, through self defense, in order to meet the current demands of BLM movement.
    That is simply not an acceptable option. If libs like to play victim let them do it, but don’t dictate to the rest of us (but thats what liberals do).

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    Correction: afro american MD was trying to get a IV into a patient who was pronounced dead for over a half hour.
  89. I’m not going to buy into your narrative of why each of those shooting victims needed to be shot dead by the cops, Derbyshire. The cops murdered those men, and I don’t care what their previous records were. Cops are supposed to be highly trained, most of them are also wearing body armor. They murdered each one of those men when no gun was apparent. The fact that Sterling’s hands were free is a big “So what!” If he didn’t have a gun he didn’t deserve to be executed by the cops.

    The fact is that if cops were disarmed people would have less fear of them and know they are not a lethal threat to their safety. Cops rarely need guns, yet they are always armed. They are armed when directing traffic, writing up auto accidents and traffic tickets, and so on. Cops are a violent tool of government thuggery and a threat to peaceful society.

    I will agree with you that blacks are their own worse enemy, but that is not an excuse for cops murdering unarmed citizens.

    The fact is that many cops are nothing more than thugs. I went to school with a cop who liked to tell stories about how he was now able to get revenge on people for all the slights he had to endure in high school. He is your typical cop. Also, cops routinely cover up the crimes of their fellow cops and cops are rarely prosecuted for their own very real crimes against citizens including extortion, rape, robbery, simple and violent assault, and murder. If you drove the car in a robbery where someone was killed, you’d be charged with murder as an accessory. The fact that cops, their unions, the prosecutors and the judges all conspire to cover up and ignore the crimes committed by all of them makes them all accessories to those crimes, and they are all guilty.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danziger_Bridge_shootings

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/01/prosecutorial-misconduct-new-orleans-louisiana_n_3529891.html

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/01/video-exonerates-man-set-up-by-louisiana-cops-and-prosecutors-video/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3367933/Shocking-video-shows-cops-planting-gun-shooting-handcuffed-man-23-dead-execution.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?_r=0

    http://www.unionleader.com/article/20120303/NEWS03/120309974&template=mobileart

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    Another afro american apologist who probably has had no real world experience with ghetto violence.
    Yes you met one officer who was an aggressive egocentric in your life ergo they all execute unarmed afro americans for no reason. These officers just woke up one morning and just decided to end their careers by getting themselves into controversial shootings, against their own rational self interest (because they knew they would be judged by people with the same ignorant pandering attitudes).

    Of course any one who lived with afro americans on their doorstep and knows the dynamics of violence on a personal level, knows otherwise:
    Did you ever know anyone personally killed by a bare handed assailant?
    Did you ever see a stabbing or shooting victim before?
    How many people you known were killed by violent crime?
    How many people you know that you visited in the hospital, who were shot, stabbed, or attacked by a group of afro americans with baseball bats?
    - - I can answer yes to all of these (& so can others like me).

    Thank God for you that you never had to make a split second decision to shoot someone who is trying to kill you with their bare hands - - or in a Police Officers case an aggressive non compliant criminal suspect who he believes is armed. Soft liberals like judging and pontificating from afar about others, from a safe distance from the violence that the others have to endure (I thought liberals were against being judgmental? OOPS I'm sorry only if they are politically correct protected pet groups, otherwise being judgmental is all okay!!)

    Plus the other fact you rather ignore than admit: afro americans have killed more of their fellow citizens then any other group in America, including terrorism (including cops), and only surpassed by war.

  90. @joef
    Agreed because I have been there & seen the anarchy of the streets produced by afro americans.
    We must examine exactly where all this is going, recognizing that afro americans have killed more of their fellow citizens than any other categorized group, including terrorist (& the only thing worse is war):
    Lets first acknowledge that we are doing everything possible to appease them:
    >> Free housing;
    >> Free food;
    >> Free education;
    >> Affirmative action in the workplace and Universities;
    >> Grade inflation for their self esteem (which now other millennials are benefiting from as well);
    >> Unqualified quota promotions;
    >> Ubiquitous MSM praise;
    >> Revisionist history to make them feel good;
    >> EBT cards
    >> No money down, no income verification auto loans, which according to St Louis FRED is now up to $1 trillion dollars (this is another feature that now has migrated among the general population).
    >> The whole housing bubble crisis of 2008 has its genesis with Clinton's anti red lining laws where the Justice Dept threatened to sue banks if they did not provide subprime home mortgages to unqualified afro americans (another thing started for afro american appeasement, migrated to the rest of society, and ended in complete disaster!!);
    >> Lighter sentencing for afro american violent felons (what the liberals do not understand is that there proportionally more afro americans in prison is because they commit the most violent felonies, and thats with the catch and release program of the modern justice system).
    >> Providing unqualified professional degrees (I had friend who is a doc who seen this first hand with a afro american MD trying to get a pulse in the ER from a patient who was already pronounced dead for a half hour!);
    >> An election of the first black president.

    If they were appreciative of what they are getting, I could live with the sacrifice. But instead their resentment just keeps on growing and their demands are never ending. They are not even apologetic about all the ruined lives they have caused through violent crime. Yet with all this, its still not enough as their entitlements is a major cause of our nation's debt levels and associated economic decline. There are just demands for more, more , more, without an end to it.

    So what is their, and their liberal handlers goal then? Well it appears to be that they do not want to be held accountable, most of us always knew that. But it goes further, for it appears that they want to be able to behave any way they please, which includes violent criminal activity, and not be confronted by the police. Even further they want to be able to be a threat and not suffer the repercussions of that act of being a threat (and as the Trayvon incident represents, it does not matter if the incident involves the police). Thus you must forfeit your rights to protect your own life, and the life of others, through self defense, in order to meet the current demands of BLM movement.
    That is simply not an acceptable option. If libs like to play victim let them do it, but don't dictate to the rest of us (but thats what liberals do).

    Correction: afro american MD was trying to get a IV into a patient who was pronounced dead for over a half hour.

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  91. @Rehmat
    I'm afraid you're very late to come to that conclusion. Your 'morally conscientious' White Christian ancestors should had realized that when they brought 10 million African slaves to the 'civilized world' while letting other 90 million slaves die during the journey.

    As for Dallas shooting is concerned, it's as much an 'inside job' as were 9/11 and 7/7.

    On Friday, a Black dude shot and killed five policemen and wounded another seven cops at the anti-Police rally in Dallas. The shooter, Micah Johnson, a Christian, was named as Micah X by Jewish-controlled media to ridicule famous Afro-American Muslim Malcolm X. He was killed on the spot by a burst of police bullets.

    Johnson was a reservist with US Army’s Engineering Brigade. He served in Afghanistan and was awarded an Army Achievement Medal and a NATO Medal.

    Police found Bomb-making material, rifles and a combat journal at the home of Johnson.

    Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings claimed that Micah Johnson (being a non-Muslim)didn’t belong to a terrorist group. Last year Rawlings was honored by Dallas Holocaust Museum at a $350-plate dinner.

    Dallas police chief David O’Neal Brown said Micah Johnson was upset about the fatal police shootings of two #Black Lives Matters activists Castile in Minnesota and Alton Sterling in Louisiana. Brown got a call from Barack Obama from Warsaw where he was attending a NATO summit against Russia. Brown, like NYPD officials received his anti-protest training in Israel.

    The US Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said the gunman appeared to have acted alone, although Texas Governor Greg Abbott said police would continue down every rabbit trail – ensuring that we eliminate any other possible suspects or co-conspirators.

    Texas Governor Greg Abbott flew to Israel on Vegas Casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson’s private plane in January 2016. In June 2016, Abbott refused Obama’s request to lift Texas sanctions against Iran. Instead he urged other State Governors to maintain or put new sanctions against Iran which poses an “Existential threat” to Israel. Abbott has also declared BDS a hate organization that must be opposed.

    Johnson who had no previous criminal record until Friday shooting, was described by his Jewish basketball pal Israel Cooper: “It’s the quiet ones that just do the most devastating stuff.” No one is going to believe this idiot that Benjamin Netanyahu is a “quiet one”!

    Last year, at an event in Dallas sponsored by New York-based anti-Muslim Jewish group, American Defense Freedom Initiative, headed by Jewish Pam Gueller, was attacked by two shooters who didn’t like America’s “Freedom of Speech”. Interestingly, the two shooters were killed by police before they had killed anyone attending the event.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/07/10/dallas-shooting-another-false-flag-terror/

    >I’m afraid you’re very late to come to that conclusion. Your ‘morally conscientious’ White Christian ancestors should had realized that when they brought 10 million African slaves to the ‘civilized world’ while letting other 90 million slaves die during the journey.

    Hordes of Muslims took Blacks for slaves. And there were Black slave hunters and users in Africa.

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    Hordes of Muslims took Blacks for slaves. And there were Black slave hunters and users in Africa.
     
    So what? I hope that's not an attempt to justify similar behavior by others.

    Anyway, I feel much more threatened by the scum at the top than the silt on the bottom.

    , @Rehmat
    You mean the Jewish hordes who monopolized black slavery converted to Islam?

    That doesn't make sense because Jews are still practice White sex-slavery in Israel.

    In May 2016, UK’s labour party suspended Jackie Walker, vice-chairwoman of Momentum movement over posting historical truth about the “African Holocaust” and Jews as “chief beneficiaries of African slavery at sugar plantation.”

    Ms Walker has claimed that she and her partner are both of Jewish descent and are actively involved in anti-racism campaign.

    Ms Walker’s claim is not based on her hatred towards Jews, but on historical facts, which like Jewish collaboration with Hitler and Mussolini – the Zionist mafia doesn’t want public to know that their Jew ancestors played a major role not only in African slavery but also in White slavery in the past. In fact, White Christian women from Russia and Ukraine are still used as sex-slaves in Israel, reported by The Times of Israel, November 29, 2015.

    Jews owned, insured, and financed slave ships and outfitted them with chains and shackles for the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. They were auctioneers, commission merchants, brokers, and wholesalers, keeping the slave economy oiled with money, markets, and supplies (here).

    Dr. Raphael in his 1983 book, Jews and Judaism in the United States: A Documentary History, said: “Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade; indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648) included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave auctions were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated. “This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the ‘triangular trade’ that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into rum for sale in Africa. Isaac Da Costa of Charleston in the 1750’s, David Franks of Philadelphia in the 1760’s, and Aaron Lopez of Newport in the late 1760’s and early 1770’s dominated Jewish slave trading on the American continent......

    https://rehmat1.com/tag/slavery-and-jews/?iframe=true&preview=true
    , @Kyle a
    Salver please refrain from future comments unless you can get a grip on basic math
  92. @Salger
    >I’m afraid you’re very late to come to that conclusion. Your ‘morally conscientious’ White Christian ancestors should had realized that when they brought 10 million African slaves to the ‘civilized world’ while letting other 90 million slaves die during the journey.

    Hordes of Muslims took Blacks for slaves. And there were Black slave hunters and users in Africa.

    Hordes of Muslims took Blacks for slaves. And there were Black slave hunters and users in Africa.

    So what? I hope that’s not an attempt to justify similar behavior by others.

    Anyway, I feel much more threatened by the scum at the top than the silt on the bottom.

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    The point is that Europeans didn't invent slavery of Blacks. And it's silly to single them out when Arabs did it for centuries without demands for reparations and Arab Guilt.
  93. LOL’ed.

    John Cuckbyshire, working for his (((master))), R✡n Unz, pens an article about Black Lies Matter, and somehow can’t force himself to utter the words “George S✡r✡s”.

    LOL’ed again.

    Mrs Derbyshire must love her some Unz shekelzezzez.

    PS: Gee, I wonder what kind of name “Wayne Isaacs” might be? Hmm. “Isaac”. Gosh. Where have I seen a name like that? Man, it just won’t come to me…

    ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡ http://bartleby.com/108/01/18.html#S23 ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡

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    • Replies: @Truth
    LMFAO!

    Hey, at least you can't say that Unz and Derb are anti 1st Amendment.

    , @Dissident
    Anyone who has been listening-to and/or reading Derbyshire regularly for any time now knows that he regularly mentions and calls-out Soros and his funding of BLM agitators.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    More like "Captain Oblivious" I think.
    , @Capper
    Oh great... Now I have the privilege of reading Captain Obvious' 100% insane ridiculous rants on this forum in addition to Heartiste and ROK. Hey, don't forget to spam post the Happy Merchant pic!
  94. @Jacques Sheete

    Hordes of Muslims took Blacks for slaves. And there were Black slave hunters and users in Africa.
     
    So what? I hope that's not an attempt to justify similar behavior by others.

    Anyway, I feel much more threatened by the scum at the top than the silt on the bottom.

    The point is that Europeans didn’t invent slavery of Blacks. And it’s silly to single them out when Arabs did it for centuries without demands for reparations and Arab Guilt.

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    Well Daniel Pipes agree with you. He claims that when Muslim Berbers conquered Spain in 711 CE, the raped every Jewish Serf (slave) woman they saved from Christians and produced the current Sephardim population in Europe including Nicolas Sarkozy's mother!!!
  95. @Berta Arnason
    These types of generalizations are harmful and factually inane. An individual, a human being, is not a statistical formulation.

    Agreed. You helped me finally put my finger on what bothers me about these dogmatic pseudo geneticists. They think they have found a justification in science for judging individuals based on race. He’s black therefore he is stupid and violent.

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    They think they have found a justification in science for judging individuals based on race.
     
    Yeah, no kidding. I have little doubt that is the exact and only reason some of that so called "research" is being done. I wouldn't be surprised to find that all of it is totally bogus. I mean ALL of it. It's the old mumbo jumbo mystify 'em routine, and who dares question a "scientific expert?"

    95% of what we're told is pure B.S., the rest is highly questionable, and the scams have been going on for millennia.

    PS: I wonder who benefits from fanning the embers of a race war? Hint: It ain't anyone in the lower or middle classes.
  96. @KenH
    Correct regarding Trump's silence and cowardice in the aftermath of the racially motivated shootings and murders of white cops and citizens. All he did yesterday was post some bland video about supporting cops, but did not breath a word of criticism of BLM, Obama or other fire breathing black radicals who've created this climate of anti-white hatred and rage. Most definitely hypocritical in light of previous statements about Muslims and illegal alien Mexicans.

    No doubt his consultants told him not to be "divisive" and he's obliging them by turning into a spineless politician worried more about attracting minority votes than speaking the truth.

    You don’t stop a runaway train by leaping on the tracks in front of it with your hand up. You can’t reverse 50 years of racial lies by shouting the truth in a room full of true believers.

    Thats a recipe for failure.

    Softly, softly, catchee monkey.

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  97. @Captain Obvious
    LOL'ed.

    John Cuckbyshire, working for his (((master))), R✡n Unz, pens an article about Black Lies Matter, and somehow can't force himself to utter the words "George S✡r✡s".

    LOL'ed again.

    Mrs Derbyshire must love her some Unz shekelzezzez.

    PS: Gee, I wonder what kind of name "Wayne Isaacs" might be? Hmm. "Isaac". Gosh. Where have I seen a name like that? Man, it just won't come to me...

    ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡ http://bartleby.com/108/01/18.html#S23 ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡

    LMFAO!

    Hey, at least you can’t say that Unz and Derb are anti 1st Amendment.

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  98. @woodNfish
    I'm not going to buy into your narrative of why each of those shooting victims needed to be shot dead by the cops, Derbyshire. The cops murdered those men, and I don't care what their previous records were. Cops are supposed to be highly trained, most of them are also wearing body armor. They murdered each one of those men when no gun was apparent. The fact that Sterling's hands were free is a big "So what!" If he didn't have a gun he didn't deserve to be executed by the cops.

    The fact is that if cops were disarmed people would have less fear of them and know they are not a lethal threat to their safety. Cops rarely need guns, yet they are always armed. They are armed when directing traffic, writing up auto accidents and traffic tickets, and so on. Cops are a violent tool of government thuggery and a threat to peaceful society.

    I will agree with you that blacks are their own worse enemy, but that is not an excuse for cops murdering unarmed citizens.

    The fact is that many cops are nothing more than thugs. I went to school with a cop who liked to tell stories about how he was now able to get revenge on people for all the slights he had to endure in high school. He is your typical cop. Also, cops routinely cover up the crimes of their fellow cops and cops are rarely prosecuted for their own very real crimes against citizens including extortion, rape, robbery, simple and violent assault, and murder. If you drove the car in a robbery where someone was killed, you'd be charged with murder as an accessory. The fact that cops, their unions, the prosecutors and the judges all conspire to cover up and ignore the crimes committed by all of them makes them all accessories to those crimes, and they are all guilty.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danziger_Bridge_shootings
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/01/prosecutorial-misconduct-new-orleans-louisiana_n_3529891.html
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/01/video-exonerates-man-set-up-by-louisiana-cops-and-prosecutors-video/
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3367933/Shocking-video-shows-cops-planting-gun-shooting-handcuffed-man-23-dead-execution.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?_r=0
    http://www.unionleader.com/article/20120303/NEWS03/120309974&template=mobileart

    Another afro american apologist who probably has had no real world experience with ghetto violence.
    Yes you met one officer who was an aggressive egocentric in your life ergo they all execute unarmed afro americans for no reason. These officers just woke up one morning and just decided to end their careers by getting themselves into controversial shootings, against their own rational self interest (because they knew they would be judged by people with the same ignorant pandering attitudes).

    Of course any one who lived with afro americans on their doorstep and knows the dynamics of violence on a personal level, knows otherwise:
    Did you ever know anyone personally killed by a bare handed assailant?
    Did you ever see a stabbing or shooting victim before?
    How many people you known were killed by violent crime?
    How many people you know that you visited in the hospital, who were shot, stabbed, or attacked by a group of afro americans with baseball bats?
    - – I can answer yes to all of these (& so can others like me).

    Thank God for you that you never had to make a split second decision to shoot someone who is trying to kill you with their bare hands – – or in a Police Officers case an aggressive non compliant criminal suspect who he believes is armed. Soft liberals like judging and pontificating from afar about others, from a safe distance from the violence that the others have to endure (I thought liberals were against being judgmental? OOPS I’m sorry only if they are politically correct protected pet groups, otherwise being judgmental is all okay!!)

    Plus the other fact you rather ignore than admit: afro americans have killed more of their fellow citizens then any other group in America, including terrorism (including cops), and only surpassed by war.

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    • Replies: @WorkingClass
    What a load of bullshit.
    , @woodNfish
    If you have read any of my posts on this you would know I'm no apologist for blacks. My concerns with police murdering unarmed citizens has nothing to do with race and everything to do with government thuggery and the police state. But you can't see past your racist blinders. Maybe this will put it in terms you can understand:

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/police-murder-because-they-are-trained-to-murder/
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    One wonders what reason might the FBI have to list crimes percentage distrubutions by race parting them into
    White, Black, Native, Asian.

    Why conflate Hispanics with white?

    I have a guess about that… you make white %’s look higher than they are, and avoid annoying La Raza types.

    Or what else?

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  100. @Dr. X

    Judging by UK experience, where by and large the races are treated equally within a Liberal narrative frame, equal treatment would help a bit. Certainly there isn’t the same level of inter-racial hostility here as in the USA
     
    Really? What about the 2011 riots? And Brixton?

    Really does not compare to US situation. Eg the 2011 riots did not target whites; white lower class & eastern Europeans joined in the looting.

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    [white lower class & eastern Europeans joined in the looting]

    But was that true in reality to the same extent it was true in Media World? In any case, negroes have not been in Britain as long as in the US, give them time.
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    ” Listen to the cop’s voice on the post-shooting video. He’s scared.” More specifically, he is *panicking* because he realizes he has killed someone with no good reason to do so.

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  102. I keep on forgetting that soft liberal opinion is suppose to supersede hard reality, and if I do not agree I must be guilty of a thought crime against political correct socialist attitudes. After all libs have so many false successes in the economy, race relations, education and criminal justice, why would any sane man disagree? Because the only sane thing is to disagree!

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  103. @joef
    Another afro american apologist who probably has had no real world experience with ghetto violence.
    Yes you met one officer who was an aggressive egocentric in your life ergo they all execute unarmed afro americans for no reason. These officers just woke up one morning and just decided to end their careers by getting themselves into controversial shootings, against their own rational self interest (because they knew they would be judged by people with the same ignorant pandering attitudes).

    Of course any one who lived with afro americans on their doorstep and knows the dynamics of violence on a personal level, knows otherwise:
    Did you ever know anyone personally killed by a bare handed assailant?
    Did you ever see a stabbing or shooting victim before?
    How many people you known were killed by violent crime?
    How many people you know that you visited in the hospital, who were shot, stabbed, or attacked by a group of afro americans with baseball bats?
    - - I can answer yes to all of these (& so can others like me).

    Thank God for you that you never had to make a split second decision to shoot someone who is trying to kill you with their bare hands - - or in a Police Officers case an aggressive non compliant criminal suspect who he believes is armed. Soft liberals like judging and pontificating from afar about others, from a safe distance from the violence that the others have to endure (I thought liberals were against being judgmental? OOPS I'm sorry only if they are politically correct protected pet groups, otherwise being judgmental is all okay!!)

    Plus the other fact you rather ignore than admit: afro americans have killed more of their fellow citizens then any other group in America, including terrorism (including cops), and only surpassed by war.

    What a load of bullshit.

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  104. @joef
    Another afro american apologist who probably has had no real world experience with ghetto violence.
    Yes you met one officer who was an aggressive egocentric in your life ergo they all execute unarmed afro americans for no reason. These officers just woke up one morning and just decided to end their careers by getting themselves into controversial shootings, against their own rational self interest (because they knew they would be judged by people with the same ignorant pandering attitudes).

    Of course any one who lived with afro americans on their doorstep and knows the dynamics of violence on a personal level, knows otherwise:
    Did you ever know anyone personally killed by a bare handed assailant?
    Did you ever see a stabbing or shooting victim before?
    How many people you known were killed by violent crime?
    How many people you know that you visited in the hospital, who were shot, stabbed, or attacked by a group of afro americans with baseball bats?
    - - I can answer yes to all of these (& so can others like me).

    Thank God for you that you never had to make a split second decision to shoot someone who is trying to kill you with their bare hands - - or in a Police Officers case an aggressive non compliant criminal suspect who he believes is armed. Soft liberals like judging and pontificating from afar about others, from a safe distance from the violence that the others have to endure (I thought liberals were against being judgmental? OOPS I'm sorry only if they are politically correct protected pet groups, otherwise being judgmental is all okay!!)

    Plus the other fact you rather ignore than admit: afro americans have killed more of their fellow citizens then any other group in America, including terrorism (including cops), and only surpassed by war.

    If you have read any of my posts on this you would know I’m no apologist for blacks. My concerns with police murdering unarmed citizens has nothing to do with race and everything to do with government thuggery and the police state. But you can’t see past your racist blinders. Maybe this will put it in terms you can understand:

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/police-murder-because-they-are-trained-to-murder/

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    I read your other posts and I stand corrected you are not an afro american apologist.

    However my alleged 'racist blinders' is from real world experiences of myself as well as the majority of people I know who lived in urban areas, that adjoin afro american ghettos.
    What is your excuse? The anarcho capatilist crap with this freedom fighter nonsense against the police is a little tiring. They act like getting a traffic ticket is equivalent to the trip to the gulag. Its not a revelation that out of 400,000 police officers that there are a number of police abuse incidents by some aggressive egocentric cops.
    Where were the anarchos when police unions publicly complained about ticket quotas and had unsuccessful slowdowns because of it. Answer is: no where, because anarchos are just a bunch of utopian theorist like any socialist/marxist would be. All this anarcho capitalist anti police rhetoric just gives aid and comfort to the radical BLM crowd and are just making things worse for the rest of us. Instead of keeping their eye on the ball, they confuse the issue with their imaginative ideology of mass police killings of unarmed people by every officer in existence within all the different unrelated police departments in this nation. If that was true, with 400,000 police officers in this country, there should be bodies all over the place. Wow they must have swept all those 400,000 bodies under the rug somewhere without the rest of us knowing (with exception of the anarchos of course).

    But this is the real rub: they use the same collectivist guilt methods of leftist by saying all officers are responsible for the actions of others (sort of like what the afro americans and their lib handlers say about whites); that some how they all know what each other is thinking, and therefore are all accountable when an aggressive egocentric officer behaves badly. So lets add some logic with out the freedom fighter emotional nonsense of the Rothbard types:

    >> Unarmed people can kill you (maybe you do not know that or believe it, but it does not make it any less true)
    >> Most police officers work for different employers;
    >> Each employer has their own set of policies and procedures;
    >> All police officers do not know each other;
    >> Police officers do not have telepathic links with each other;
    >> The cop walking his foot post in a inner city has no idea what a cop in suburbia or rural areas are doing at this very moment and vice versa.
    >> A cop walking his inner city foot post has no control over some suburban/rural cop is abusing his authority at the moment, or vice versa.
    >> Just because you got abused by a cop does not make all the cops in the world, who don't even know each other, responsible for his behavior (especially since he does not even know that said incident even occurred)
    >> Like everyone else, protecting your own life is a fundamental human right, but somehow out of petty resentments, the anarchos want to deny police this right of having a rational self interest in protecting themselves from aggression.
    - - They just do not get it that when you attack the police right to use justified force, you are also attacking your own right to use justified force in the same circumstances. A person would have to be completely naive to think otherwise (if they do not let the police do it, do you really think the court system will let you do it?).
    >> And finally, to state the obvious, not every use of deadly force by police is illegitimate use of force.

    Instead of blaming all cops for things they have no control over, like the actions of the police hierarchy, or an aggressive egocentric peer who is not listening to him anyway and threatens him with a loss of backup (which is potentially life threatening), try promoting these reforms:
    - eliminate ticket quotas and civil forfeitures;
    - stop marxist style ubiquitous use of police road blocks only allowing for the exception of searching for violent felons during an in progress incident.
    - Stop having smaller police departments overusing SWAT teams for silly non life threatening petty offense enforcement (that is what the over used phrase militarized police really is - - just a bunch of over eager small police departments overusing their SWAT teams for nonsense that involves no threats to officer/public safety).

  105. @Simon in London
    Really does not compare to US situation. Eg the 2011 riots did not target whites; white lower class & eastern Europeans joined in the looting.

    [white lower class & eastern Europeans joined in the looting]

    But was that true in reality to the same extent it was true in Media World? In any case, negroes have not been in Britain as long as in the US, give them time.

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  106. @Svigor

    At birth, you are given a pair of binoculars that see black life from a distance, never with the texture of intimacy. Those binoculars are privilege; they are status, regardless of your class. In fact the greatest privilege that exists is for white folk to get stopped by a cop and not end up dead when the encounter is over.
     
    "Texture of intimacy." Dat be some poetic sheeeeiiiit.

    I love it when blacks (being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is) assert that whites don't know what blacks go through. As if they have a clue what whites go through, which is a prerequisite of this assertion having any relevance.

    Blacks don't know what whites go through. Whites don't know what blacks go through. Nobody knows what anybody else goes through. Welcome to real life.

    Whites don't have a race card they can play constantly, regardless of whether it's valid, I know that much. When I'm pulled over and sat on the curb for 15 minutes for "matching the description of a rape suspect," (it happened), it's just a cigar.

    Hello my friend. You need to listen to Granny Hillary and really listen when blacks tell you about their lives. As she so bravely points out, we whites don’t know what it’s like to be black.

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  107. @Svigor

    At birth, you are given a pair of binoculars that see black life from a distance, never with the texture of intimacy. Those binoculars are privilege; they are status, regardless of your class. In fact the greatest privilege that exists is for white folk to get stopped by a cop and not end up dead when the encounter is over.
     
    "Texture of intimacy." Dat be some poetic sheeeeiiiit.

    I love it when blacks (being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is) assert that whites don't know what blacks go through. As if they have a clue what whites go through, which is a prerequisite of this assertion having any relevance.

    Blacks don't know what whites go through. Whites don't know what blacks go through. Nobody knows what anybody else goes through. Welcome to real life.

    Whites don't have a race card they can play constantly, regardless of whether it's valid, I know that much. When I'm pulled over and sat on the curb for 15 minutes for "matching the description of a rape suspect," (it happened), it's just a cigar.

    “being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is”

    Also no sense of irony, nuance, or placing events in context.

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    Also no sense of irony, nuance, or placing events in context.
     
    So it is your strong sense of irony, nuance, and context that allows you Gents to be suckered repeatedly into hand-wringing over the CIA engineered False Flag event of the week? Now I understand.
  108. @Atlanta Man
    Philande's car was insured and his gun was licsence and he had a valid conceled weapons permit. He was employed and never convicted of a felony, paid taxes, and just living his life. He was not wealthy and living within his means. What does a black man have to do to have the benifit of the doubt when he is living his life? Yes , his car was a piece of shit-should he go into debt for something he cannot afford so he can get to and from work without getting pulled over? His paperwork was in order, his life was in order, and he still was shot by a jumpy cop -and you people on this blog go through contortions to find fault with him.

    He was a crip. I couldn’t care less that he’s dead.

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    You do not have to care, but understand that the man was not a criminal. I know of white nationalists in Blue Ridge Georgia, and they have conceled carry permits-if a police officer killed them while they were lawfully carrying a weapon I would still be upset. The second amendment is paramount, I am a NRA member for a reason.
  109. @KenH
    Correct regarding Trump's silence and cowardice in the aftermath of the racially motivated shootings and murders of white cops and citizens. All he did yesterday was post some bland video about supporting cops, but did not breath a word of criticism of BLM, Obama or other fire breathing black radicals who've created this climate of anti-white hatred and rage. Most definitely hypocritical in light of previous statements about Muslims and illegal alien Mexicans.

    No doubt his consultants told him not to be "divisive" and he's obliging them by turning into a spineless politician worried more about attracting minority votes than speaking the truth.

    Trump is getting more cucked by the day. It’s pathetic.

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  110. @WorkingClass
    There are a lot of criminal cops and corrections officers. They commit crimes from shake downs to murder against people of every color. They taze people in restraints. If you have lived a sheltered life you don't know this. If you are queer for cops you don't want to know this. Lets accept the realty of race AND cops.

    Couldn’t agree more. People are so quick to take a side.

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  111. @pink_point
    You are a good psychologist.

    If 95% of the world wouldn't be forced to accept, out of awe, dollars that have no value any more according to every financial law, we can't really figure how things would turn at this point.

    You seem to hope for a race war, thuogh, and I can't agree on that.

    Besides,


    Then we may start over again by doing things the right way (no need to worry about further Leftist interference in this case because without modern protections the Leftist will die off from natural selection).
     
    You somehow sound like the typical leftist, lover of all humans but hater of every human that doesn't play by the very same leftist script.

    It's not about natural selection. It's that where there is real progress, and move onward, leftists "ideas" and "mindset" find no soil to grow on. On the contrary, they prosper in the times of decay; in a state of advanced decay, like in this day and age, "leftist" will be a byname for "masochistic". (We can say this is due to natural selection of ideas.)

    Who is hoping for a race war? I don’t want it but it’s obviously inevitable. Combine the current levels of anti-white sentiment, endemic violence and government dependency with economic collapse and what do you think will happen? Will blacks just sit down and starve? Magically learn to farm and hunt overnight? Protest until ???? Or will they spread into white areas and kill and loot as much as they can?

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  112. @David In TN
    "being not too bright, and as un-introspective a breed of man as there is"

    Also no sense of irony, nuance, or placing events in context.

    Also no sense of irony, nuance, or placing events in context.

    So it is your strong sense of irony, nuance, and context that allows you Gents to be suckered repeatedly into hand-wringing over the CIA engineered False Flag event of the week? Now I understand.

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    • Replies: @David In TN
    Furthermore, dumb as a stump. Thanks for proving my point.
  113. People kill each other daily, and now suddenly everyone is butt hurt over five guys who volunteered to put on a uniform, and join the violence.

    Get real.

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    "People kill each other daily, and now suddenly everyone is butt hurt over five guys who volunteered to put on a uniform, and join the violence." - Great comment!
  114. @Salger
    >I’m afraid you’re very late to come to that conclusion. Your ‘morally conscientious’ White Christian ancestors should had realized that when they brought 10 million African slaves to the ‘civilized world’ while letting other 90 million slaves die during the journey.

    Hordes of Muslims took Blacks for slaves. And there were Black slave hunters and users in Africa.

    You mean the Jewish hordes who monopolized black slavery converted to Islam?

    That doesn’t make sense because Jews are still practice White sex-slavery in Israel.

    In May 2016, UK’s labour party suspended Jackie Walker, vice-chairwoman of Momentum movement over posting historical truth about the “African Holocaust” and Jews as “chief beneficiaries of African slavery at sugar plantation.”

    Ms Walker has claimed that she and her partner are both of Jewish descent and are actively involved in anti-racism campaign.

    Ms Walker’s claim is not based on her hatred towards Jews, but on historical facts, which like Jewish collaboration with Hitler and Mussolini – the Zionist mafia doesn’t want public to know that their Jew ancestors played a major role not only in African slavery but also in White slavery in the past. In fact, White Christian women from Russia and Ukraine are still used as sex-slaves in Israel, reported by The Times of Israel, November 29, 2015.

    Jews owned, insured, and financed slave ships and outfitted them with chains and shackles for the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. They were auctioneers, commission merchants, brokers, and wholesalers, keeping the slave economy oiled with money, markets, and supplies (here).

    Dr. Raphael in his 1983 book, Jews and Judaism in the United States: A Documentary History, said: “Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade; indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648) included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave auctions were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated. “This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the eighteenth century Jews participated in the ‘triangular trade’ that brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into rum for sale in Africa. Isaac Da Costa of Charleston in the 1750’s, David Franks of Philadelphia in the 1760’s, and Aaron Lopez of Newport in the late 1760’s and early 1770’s dominated Jewish slave trading on the American continent……

    https://rehmat1.com/tag/slavery-and-jews/?iframe=true&preview=true

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  115. @Salger
    The point is that Europeans didn't invent slavery of Blacks. And it's silly to single them out when Arabs did it for centuries without demands for reparations and Arab Guilt.

    Well Daniel Pipes agree with you. He claims that when Muslim Berbers conquered Spain in 711 CE, the raped every Jewish Serf (slave) woman they saved from Christians and produced the current Sephardim population in Europe including Nicolas Sarkozy’s mother!!!

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  116. @Craken
    The Leftist logic is that even if people are naturally unequal, they must be made equal by whatever means necessary. There is no greater blasphemy in their theology than human inequality. That the quest for equality should be futile is a thought they cannot even think. To them, it is the worst kind of nihilism, if it is not rather the worst kind of evil. They will do what they always do: abstract away the facts and fog the air with post-Enlightenment rhetoric.

    Knowing how much America loves its sports’ teams, esp. football, let’s say, “Okay, disparate impact for civil service jobs? Then, disparate impact for your fav. football teams too. The Dallas Cowboys MUST, the New England Patriots MUST, the Cleveland Cavaliers and GS Warriors MUST have on their rosters whites, Asians, and Hispanics (maybe even women?) proportionate to their % in our adult population. It’s clear that the owners and coaches exclude them because of bigotry, right? Unfair testing, right?

    SCOTUS, if you think a fireman’s test is unfair to minorities because whites score the highest, well then, you must think the NFL combine is unfair to all but blacks.

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  117. Excellent article!

    It’s rare today to find gifted writers, even in the alternative press, able to understand the police side of any issue to do with race — to our detriment. Mr. Derbyshire is an exception.

    Another take on the subject, which may explain that:

    https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2016/07/08/from-11-11-2013-the-uber-rich-want-us-to-have-a-racial-civil-war/

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  118. I guess this is why, a century ago, the policy in the South was to keep them in fear. They knew how to act with authority back then, didn’t they? For the most part.

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  119. @Truth
    So Fred ,does this men you're not going to kick Derb's ass anymore?

    So Fred ,does this men you’re not going to kick Derb’s ass anymore?

    I guess he decided to kiss his ass a bit to make it feel better.

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  120. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    End tough policing and all policies like ‘stop and frisk’.

    The urban Progs(who benefited most from tough law enforcement) are bitching about police brutality. Okay, so let’s have Police Nicety. Since Progs say Negroes are so wonderful, there is nothing to fear.

    If Negroes get out of hand, let the Progs deal with it.
    No more calling on the cops to fix problems.

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  121. My instinct, so far as these three shootings are concerned: Let’s wait and see what investigations turn up.

    FOX JEWS – “The Five” Starts Race War

    Thursday 5:00 PM – before Dallas.

    Juan Williams starts show with a less than full throttled defense of the blacks shot by the cops.

    Gutfeld – does customary rand, goes no way to long, shows his contempt for the black’s problems – ends with “investigate.”

    Perino – the pro-war sweetheart – ends with “investigate.”

    Bolling – “investigate”

    Guilfoyle – always defends cops, prosecutors, “investigate.”

    Micah X –watches show – sees ZERO concern for black people – goes to war for his people.

    Dallas – midnight – five dead cops – seven wounded.

    Hmm!

    Saying “investigate” is a cop out! It lacks any concern for the dead. It says they probably deserved to die.

    Totally typical FOX JEWS – no white concern for black deaths at the hands of cops.

    Four of the FIVE showed their racist stripes – they showed no understanding of the problem – they went brainstem political (more likely paycheck political).

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  122. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous
    "The underlying issue here: the very high levels of violence and criminality among blacks."

    Petty Apartheid was instituted in South Africa to shield whites from this type of black criminality, which cannot be reformed. Basically, living apart from blacks solves all of these problems.
    What I don't get is why white officers are even bothering to police black areas. Why not just stop off at the local Dunkin Donut store and sit out your shift. Let the brothers take care of this shit. Let Obama and co. have it in full.

    Cops already let ghettos alone anyway. Quite often, they only enter ghettos when they get a 911 call. They don’t patrol the place because they’d have to make 10 arrests per block.

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  123. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @KenH
    Correct regarding Trump's silence and cowardice in the aftermath of the racially motivated shootings and murders of white cops and citizens. All he did yesterday was post some bland video about supporting cops, but did not breath a word of criticism of BLM, Obama or other fire breathing black radicals who've created this climate of anti-white hatred and rage. Most definitely hypocritical in light of previous statements about Muslims and illegal alien Mexicans.

    No doubt his consultants told him not to be "divisive" and he's obliging them by turning into a spineless politician worried more about attracting minority votes than speaking the truth.

    Tactically speaking, Trumps needs to stay quiet. Conservatives already back him. It’s important to let BLM and shootings backfire all over liberals and let liberals stew in it. If Trump wants their support, he needs liberals to have this violence rubbed in their face before they’ll start to admit their own political opinions are a bunch of nonsense. You don’t interrupt the process of dawning consciousness by grandstanding. Trump needs the support of liberals who are growing terrified of black violence and who will change their minds in the privacy of the voting booth and back him.

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  124. @WorkingClass
    Agreed. You helped me finally put my finger on what bothers me about these dogmatic pseudo geneticists. They think they have found a justification in science for judging individuals based on race. He's black therefore he is stupid and violent.

    They think they have found a justification in science for judging individuals based on race.

    Yeah, no kidding. I have little doubt that is the exact and only reason some of that so called “research” is being done. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that all of it is totally bogus. I mean ALL of it. It’s the old mumbo jumbo mystify ‘em routine, and who dares question a “scientific expert?”

    95% of what we’re told is pure B.S., the rest is highly questionable, and the scams have been going on for millennia.

    PS: I wonder who benefits from fanning the embers of a race war? Hint: It ain’t anyone in the lower or middle classes.

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    • Replies: @WorkingClass
    I respect the science. It's not the fault of the scientists that their findings are misused by people with an ax to grind.

    by the way:
    "PS: I wonder who benefits from fanning the embers of a race war? Hint: It ain’t anyone in the lower or middle classes."

    Thanks for that. Unite against the .01%. It's an urgent message not repeated nearly often enough.

    In a lighter vein; I'm increasingly concerned about the high IQ people. They are not like us. They don't belong here. And they all think they are so fucking smart.
  125. @Captain Obvious
    LOL'ed.

    John Cuckbyshire, working for his (((master))), R✡n Unz, pens an article about Black Lies Matter, and somehow can't force himself to utter the words "George S✡r✡s".

    LOL'ed again.

    Mrs Derbyshire must love her some Unz shekelzezzez.

    PS: Gee, I wonder what kind of name "Wayne Isaacs" might be? Hmm. "Isaac". Gosh. Where have I seen a name like that? Man, it just won't come to me...

    ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡ http://bartleby.com/108/01/18.html#S23 ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡

    Anyone who has been listening-to and/or reading Derbyshire regularly for any time now knows that he regularly mentions and calls-out Soros and his funding of BLM agitators.

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  126. Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H. L. Mencken

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  127. @Truth


    Also no sense of irony, nuance, or placing events in context.
     
    So it is your strong sense of irony, nuance, and context that allows you Gents to be suckered repeatedly into hand-wringing over the CIA engineered False Flag event of the week? Now I understand.

    Furthermore, dumb as a stump. Thanks for proving my point.

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  128. @Jacques Sheete

    They think they have found a justification in science for judging individuals based on race.
     
    Yeah, no kidding. I have little doubt that is the exact and only reason some of that so called "research" is being done. I wouldn't be surprised to find that all of it is totally bogus. I mean ALL of it. It's the old mumbo jumbo mystify 'em routine, and who dares question a "scientific expert?"

    95% of what we're told is pure B.S., the rest is highly questionable, and the scams have been going on for millennia.

    PS: I wonder who benefits from fanning the embers of a race war? Hint: It ain't anyone in the lower or middle classes.

    I respect the science. It’s not the fault of the scientists that their findings are misused by people with an ax to grind.

    by the way:
    “PS: I wonder who benefits from fanning the embers of a race war? Hint: It ain’t anyone in the lower or middle classes.”

    Thanks for that. Unite against the .01%. It’s an urgent message not repeated nearly often enough.

    In a lighter vein; I’m increasingly concerned about the high IQ people. They are not like us. They don’t belong here. And they all think they are so fucking smart.

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    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
    And they think that because they're smart that they aren't ignorant, when in reality tons of smart people turn out to be as ignorant as stumps.

    Despite their ignorance they think their "smartness" alone entitles them to special favors.
  129. @AndrewR
    He was a crip. I couldn't care less that he's dead.

    You do not have to care, but understand that the man was not a criminal. I know of white nationalists in Blue Ridge Georgia, and they have conceled carry permits-if a police officer killed them while they were lawfully carrying a weapon I would still be upset. The second amendment is paramount, I am a NRA member for a reason.

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  130. Wow! Does Roberts “get it” or what?

    Four particularly brilliant sentences in a completely brilliant piece.:

    I have always been suspicious of the racist explanation. This is an explanation fed to the public in order to break the public into waring factions that cannot unite against their real oppressors.

    The two greatest threats to the world are American and Israeli exceptionalism.

    Unexceptional peoples are dispensable.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/police-murder-because-they-are-trained-to-murder/

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  131. @Priss Factor
    Glob is a Globalist Snob.

    The new elites have concocted a clever way to protect their preening privilege with PC preaching that combines high-toned haughtiness with self-righteous chest-beating.
    'Progressive' dogma, or Progma, is a hybrid beast that must be killed.

    Unable to address reality with real thought and examination, they resort to slogans and catchphrases that are easily copied and muttered by anyone in the game.

    For the affluent, PC protects their privilege. It is like the passover sign that says 'good whites here, go get the bad ones'.

    For those without affluence and privilege, PC gives them a false sense of 'empowerment', as if they're committed to some great struggle for 'justice'. Like with coppercab and chubby mark.
    They've no idea that they're mere tools.

    https://vimeo.com/155612866

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McmVkOUxY6c

    I’m looking forward to a similar selfie rant video from Derb called “Barack Obama RETIRES!!!!!!!”

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  132. @Captain Obvious
    LOL'ed.

    John Cuckbyshire, working for his (((master))), R✡n Unz, pens an article about Black Lies Matter, and somehow can't force himself to utter the words "George S✡r✡s".

    LOL'ed again.

    Mrs Derbyshire must love her some Unz shekelzezzez.

    PS: Gee, I wonder what kind of name "Wayne Isaacs" might be? Hmm. "Isaac". Gosh. Where have I seen a name like that? Man, it just won't come to me...

    ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡ http://bartleby.com/108/01/18.html#S23 ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡

    More like “Captain Oblivious” I think.

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    • Replies: @another fred

    More like “Captain Oblivious” I think.
     
    Or "Captain Obsessive".
  133. @5371
    Even if all that were true, it appears that a Cop-Of-Colour wasn't up to his job and pulled the trigger before it was necessary. Why should white people again be blamed?

    I am not blaming white people, I am blaming the officer in the MN shooting exclusively. In the other recent shootings things my be open to discussion due the circumstances, not in MN. In MN the man was shot while going out of the way to obey the law, was not a felon , and was in total compliance with conceled carry. I do not see how you could construe any of my comments to be blaming white people.

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  134. @Rehmat
    I'm afraid you're very late to come to that conclusion. Your 'morally conscientious' White Christian ancestors should had realized that when they brought 10 million African slaves to the 'civilized world' while letting other 90 million slaves die during the journey.

    As for Dallas shooting is concerned, it's as much an 'inside job' as were 9/11 and 7/7.

    On Friday, a Black dude shot and killed five policemen and wounded another seven cops at the anti-Police rally in Dallas. The shooter, Micah Johnson, a Christian, was named as Micah X by Jewish-controlled media to ridicule famous Afro-American Muslim Malcolm X. He was killed on the spot by a burst of police bullets.

    Johnson was a reservist with US Army’s Engineering Brigade. He served in Afghanistan and was awarded an Army Achievement Medal and a NATO Medal.

    Police found Bomb-making material, rifles and a combat journal at the home of Johnson.

    Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings claimed that Micah Johnson (being a non-Muslim)didn’t belong to a terrorist group. Last year Rawlings was honored by Dallas Holocaust Museum at a $350-plate dinner.

    Dallas police chief David O’Neal Brown said Micah Johnson was upset about the fatal police shootings of two #Black Lives Matters activists Castile in Minnesota and Alton Sterling in Louisiana. Brown got a call from Barack Obama from Warsaw where he was attending a NATO summit against Russia. Brown, like NYPD officials received his anti-protest training in Israel.

    The US Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said the gunman appeared to have acted alone, although Texas Governor Greg Abbott said police would continue down every rabbit trail – ensuring that we eliminate any other possible suspects or co-conspirators.

    Texas Governor Greg Abbott flew to Israel on Vegas Casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson’s private plane in January 2016. In June 2016, Abbott refused Obama’s request to lift Texas sanctions against Iran. Instead he urged other State Governors to maintain or put new sanctions against Iran which poses an “Existential threat” to Israel. Abbott has also declared BDS a hate organization that must be opposed.

    Johnson who had no previous criminal record until Friday shooting, was described by his Jewish basketball pal Israel Cooper: “It’s the quiet ones that just do the most devastating stuff.” No one is going to believe this idiot that Benjamin Netanyahu is a “quiet one”!

    Last year, at an event in Dallas sponsored by New York-based anti-Muslim Jewish group, American Defense Freedom Initiative, headed by Jewish Pam Gueller, was attacked by two shooters who didn’t like America’s “Freedom of Speech”. Interestingly, the two shooters were killed by police before they had killed anyone attending the event.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/07/10/dallas-shooting-another-false-flag-terror/

    I am loathe to point out facts to disturb your narrative here, but its a fact that slavery was rather rampant everywhere in the world up until almost 200 years ago, when WHITE Christians finally put a stop to it. Were it not for those WHITE Christians, slavery would undoubtedly still be popular and widely practised today.

    You might note another not unconnected fact – that modern society and western civilization was overwhelmingly brought about by WHITE Christians.

    The White Mans Burden was and continues to be a very real thing. Thanks to WHITE civilization, BLM and their ilk are able to have the opportunity to lead us down the garden path back to barbarism.

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  135. @Berta Arnason
    These types of generalizations are harmful and factually inane. An individual, a human being, is not a statistical formulation.

    But to ignore the correct statistical interpretation of the black/white IQ difference and the part genes play is to ignore the truth, just as we have been doing these past 50 years.

    Its a fact now that cops are more likely to shoot you if you’re white than if you’re black. Ask Derb to give you the figures.

    Its a fact that there are, statistically speaking, more blacks with STEM jobs than you would expect, given the requirement of having an IQ>115 to perform such a job adequately.

    Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males. The difference is genetic.

    So your claim about how “These types of generalizations are harmful and factually inane” is bull. That just perpetuates the false narratives of the grievance mongers that the reason blacks don’t get ahead or are “unfaired” is because they “still suffer the effects of slavery and Jim Crow” or because “its all whitey’s fault”. Wake up and smell the coffee. You’ve been constantly lied to for all your life – use your brain to escape the lies. Many people do not have that capability, sadly.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males."

    Yes.

    "The difference is genetic."

    Um, no. It MAY be genetic, but more likely environmental.
    , @Jacques Sheete

    Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males. The difference is genetic.
     
    It's also a fact that old, black males are involved in violent mass carnage at a much lesser rate than old, white males.

    In fact, old, rich, white males have a horrible record of mass murder including waging world wars, mass genocide, and the unjustified use of atomic weapons to name just a few examples of their hideous behavior.

    Izzat genetic or izzit because they're a bunch of greedy, retarded, arrogant, degenerate cloacas? Hmmmm?

  136. @Captain Obvious
    LOL'ed.

    John Cuckbyshire, working for his (((master))), R✡n Unz, pens an article about Black Lies Matter, and somehow can't force himself to utter the words "George S✡r✡s".

    LOL'ed again.

    Mrs Derbyshire must love her some Unz shekelzezzez.

    PS: Gee, I wonder what kind of name "Wayne Isaacs" might be? Hmm. "Isaac". Gosh. Where have I seen a name like that? Man, it just won't come to me...

    ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡ http://bartleby.com/108/01/18.html#S23 ✡✡✡cough✡✡✡

    Oh great… Now I have the privilege of reading Captain Obvious’ 100% insane ridiculous rants on this forum in addition to Heartiste and ROK. Hey, don’t forget to spam post the Happy Merchant pic!

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "on this forum in addition to Heartiste and ROK."

    Great, another fanboi of single males without (white) children. You do realize that their actions are anti-white, correct?
  137. @Corvinus
    Jim Crow laws was the tool by greedy Southrons to maintain white political and social control in the aftermath of Reconstruction. Had they kept their end of the "promise"--separate but equal accommodations--perhaps blacks living there would have obliged. The black violence came when Southerners in general refused to honor the spirit of the law, which necessitated federal intervention. The South brought it upon themselves.

    Separate but equal is impossible because the people are not equal.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Separate but equal is impossible..."

    We'll never know, because those Southerners in power just had to make sure that the facilities for whites and blacks were decidedly UNEQUAL in spite of the Plessy ruling.

    "because the people are not equal."

    In some cases people are not equal, but in other cases, they are equal. Blacks in the South, for example, had clearly received unequal accommodations during Jim Crow. Southerners violated the law. As a consequence of their actions, legislation was enacted.

    Get it through that thick skull of yours...Jim Crow ain't coming back.
  138. @WorkingClass
    There are a lot of criminal cops and corrections officers. They commit crimes from shake downs to murder against people of every color. They taze people in restraints. If you have lived a sheltered life you don't know this. If you are queer for cops you don't want to know this. Lets accept the realty of race AND cops.

    “Lets accept the realty of race AND cops.” – You are right. Unfortunately most commenters here do not see it that way.

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  139. @Biff
    People kill each other daily, and now suddenly everyone is butt hurt over five guys who volunteered to put on a uniform, and join the violence.

    Get real.

    “People kill each other daily, and now suddenly everyone is butt hurt over five guys who volunteered to put on a uniform, and join the violence.” – Great comment!

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    I don't like or trust cops either, but no, they didn't "sign up" to be murdered by a fifth column of borderline-retarded, parasitic, America-hating, white-hating cretins. That's contemptible.
  140. @gda
    But to ignore the correct statistical interpretation of the black/white IQ difference and the part genes play is to ignore the truth, just as we have been doing these past 50 years.

    Its a fact now that cops are more likely to shoot you if you're white than if you're black. Ask Derb to give you the figures.

    Its a fact that there are, statistically speaking, more blacks with STEM jobs than you would expect, given the requirement of having an IQ>115 to perform such a job adequately.

    Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males. The difference is genetic.

    So your claim about how "These types of generalizations are harmful and factually inane" is bull. That just perpetuates the false narratives of the grievance mongers that the reason blacks don't get ahead or are "unfaired" is because they "still suffer the effects of slavery and Jim Crow" or because "its all whitey's fault". Wake up and smell the coffee. You've been constantly lied to for all your life - use your brain to escape the lies. Many people do not have that capability, sadly.

    “Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males.”

    Yes.

    “The difference is genetic.”

    Um, no. It MAY be genetic, but more likely environmental.

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    • Replies: @gda
    Lets see what our friend Jayman has to say on the genetic thing (versus the environmental)
    https://jaymans.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/how-much-hard-evidence-do-you-need/

    How much hard evidence DO you need?

    The environmental explanation has truly gone the way of the dodo. The developments in the genetic "industry" recently have been quite astounding, and will be even more so in the near future.
    , @silviosilver
    No, it's genetic. We don't have the time for feel-good lies any more. The presence of blacks has a devastating effect on non-black societies and we know why. Our focus must be on doing all we can to keep as them as separate from us as possible. Let those who want to mix them do so, the rest of us can go our own way. We have everything to gain and nothing to lose from such an attitude.
    , @epochehusserl
    If it's environmental then look at the family structure. You look at absolute material equality as the natural order of things. It's not possible. You argument is that if any white person has anything that a black person doesn't then the system is rigged. The proportion of whites who have an iq of over 115 is so much higher than for blacks that we shouldn't expect equality. IQ is not the only thing that matters but it does matter.
    , @Jay Igaboo
    Bit of both, if you're honest.
    When times were bad for Black Americans, they aspired to much the same goals as Whites did then, and they were (same as many Whites now) not deliberately degraded by Marxist deconstruction of the family , education and morality to to the hedonistic and bestial level many a currently occupy. When people do not have a strong moral framework, and a social infrastructure that reinforces it, generally, (but with exceptions) the less intelligent are more easily manipulated and corrupted.
    I suppose the exception to that would be the intelligent secular Jew who has exchanged his religioun, with its moral strictures for the quasi-religion of Cultural Marxism.
  141. @Epochehusserl
    Separate but equal is impossible because the people are not equal.

    “Separate but equal is impossible…”

    We’ll never know, because those Southerners in power just had to make sure that the facilities for whites and blacks were decidedly UNEQUAL in spite of the Plessy ruling.

    “because the people are not equal.”

    In some cases people are not equal, but in other cases, they are equal. Blacks in the South, for example, had clearly received unequal accommodations during Jim Crow. Southerners violated the law. As a consequence of their actions, legislation was enacted.

    Get it through that thick skull of yours…Jim Crow ain’t coming back.

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    • Replies: @epochehusserl
    Get it through your thick skill, the educational facilities were worse because of the people there not because of the land it was on. I don't want to go back to Jim crow, I want to rely on standardized testing you want to rely on violent protests. They need to make educational materials available online and allow private employers to create their own credentials if they want. They need to phase out government spending on higher education as having betrayed the public trust.
  142. @Capper
    Oh great... Now I have the privilege of reading Captain Obvious' 100% insane ridiculous rants on this forum in addition to Heartiste and ROK. Hey, don't forget to spam post the Happy Merchant pic!

    “on this forum in addition to Heartiste and ROK.”

    Great, another fanboi of single males without (white) children. You do realize that their actions are anti-white, correct?

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  143. @Corvinus
    Jim Crow laws was the tool by greedy Southrons to maintain white political and social control in the aftermath of Reconstruction. Had they kept their end of the "promise"--separate but equal accommodations--perhaps blacks living there would have obliged. The black violence came when Southerners in general refused to honor the spirit of the law, which necessitated federal intervention. The South brought it upon themselves.

    The black violence came when Southerners in general refused to honor the spirit of the law, which necessitated federal intervention. The South brought it upon themselves.

    I remember the ‘sixties civil rights movement reasonably well, and do not recall that black violence took place particularly in the South. Black protests in the South were largely peaceful, and most of the violence there was on the parts of whites (e.g., the murders of Medgar Evers, Viola Liuzzo, Schwerner, Goodman, and Chaney). Most of the black rioting took place outside the South, e.g., in Chicago, Detroit, Watts, Baltimore, and Washington, D.C. (whether the last two should be considered parts of the South is questionable).

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    • Replies: @Kyle a
    Well of course you do. Corvinus is a revisionist with early stage dementia
  144. @Corvinus
    "Separate but equal is impossible..."

    We'll never know, because those Southerners in power just had to make sure that the facilities for whites and blacks were decidedly UNEQUAL in spite of the Plessy ruling.

    "because the people are not equal."

    In some cases people are not equal, but in other cases, they are equal. Blacks in the South, for example, had clearly received unequal accommodations during Jim Crow. Southerners violated the law. As a consequence of their actions, legislation was enacted.

    Get it through that thick skull of yours...Jim Crow ain't coming back.

    Get it through your thick skill, the educational facilities were worse because of the people there not because of the land it was on. I don’t want to go back to Jim crow, I want to rely on standardized testing you want to rely on violent protests. They need to make educational materials available online and allow private employers to create their own credentials if they want. They need to phase out government spending on higher education as having betrayed the public trust.

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  145. @WorkingClass
    I respect the science. It's not the fault of the scientists that their findings are misused by people with an ax to grind.

    by the way:
    "PS: I wonder who benefits from fanning the embers of a race war? Hint: It ain’t anyone in the lower or middle classes."

    Thanks for that. Unite against the .01%. It's an urgent message not repeated nearly often enough.

    In a lighter vein; I'm increasingly concerned about the high IQ people. They are not like us. They don't belong here. And they all think they are so fucking smart.

    And they think that because they’re smart that they aren’t ignorant, when in reality tons of smart people turn out to be as ignorant as stumps.

    Despite their ignorance they think their “smartness” alone entitles them to special favors.

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  146. @woodNfish
    If you have read any of my posts on this you would know I'm no apologist for blacks. My concerns with police murdering unarmed citizens has nothing to do with race and everything to do with government thuggery and the police state. But you can't see past your racist blinders. Maybe this will put it in terms you can understand:

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/police-murder-because-they-are-trained-to-murder/

    I read your other posts and I stand corrected you are not an afro american apologist.

    However my alleged ‘racist blinders’ is from real world experiences of myself as well as the majority of people I know who lived in urban areas, that adjoin afro american ghettos.
    What is your excuse? The anarcho capatilist crap with this freedom fighter nonsense against the police is a little tiring. They act like getting a traffic ticket is equivalent to the trip to the gulag. Its not a revelation that out of 400,000 police officers that there are a number of police abuse incidents by some aggressive egocentric cops.
    Where were the anarchos when police unions publicly complained about ticket quotas and had unsuccessful slowdowns because of it. Answer is: no where, because anarchos are just a bunch of utopian theorist like any socialist/marxist would be. All this anarcho capitalist anti police rhetoric just gives aid and comfort to the radical BLM crowd and are just making things worse for the rest of us. Instead of keeping their eye on the ball, they confuse the issue with their imaginative ideology of mass police killings of unarmed people by every officer in existence within all the different unrelated police departments in this nation. If that was true, with 400,000 police officers in this country, there should be bodies all over the place. Wow they must have swept all those 400,000 bodies under the rug somewhere without the rest of us knowing (with exception of the anarchos of course).

    But this is the real rub: they use the same collectivist guilt methods of leftist by saying all officers are responsible for the actions of others (sort of like what the afro americans and their lib handlers say about whites); that some how they all know what each other is thinking, and therefore are all accountable when an aggressive egocentric officer behaves badly. So lets add some logic with out the freedom fighter emotional nonsense of the Rothbard types:

    >> Unarmed people can kill you (maybe you do not know that or believe it, but it does not make it any less true)
    >> Most police officers work for different employers;
    >> Each employer has their own set of policies and procedures;
    >> All police officers do not know each other;
    >> Police officers do not have telepathic links with each other;
    >> The cop walking his foot post in a inner city has no idea what a cop in suburbia or rural areas are doing at this very moment and vice versa.
    >> A cop walking his inner city foot post has no control over some suburban/rural cop is abusing his authority at the moment, or vice versa.
    >> Just because you got abused by a cop does not make all the cops in the world, who don’t even know each other, responsible for his behavior (especially since he does not even know that said incident even occurred)
    >> Like everyone else, protecting your own life is a fundamental human right, but somehow out of petty resentments, the anarchos want to deny police this right of having a rational self interest in protecting themselves from aggression.
    - – They just do not get it that when you attack the police right to use justified force, you are also attacking your own right to use justified force in the same circumstances. A person would have to be completely naive to think otherwise (if they do not let the police do it, do you really think the court system will let you do it?).
    >> And finally, to state the obvious, not every use of deadly force by police is illegitimate use of force.

    Instead of blaming all cops for things they have no control over, like the actions of the police hierarchy, or an aggressive egocentric peer who is not listening to him anyway and threatens him with a loss of backup (which is potentially life threatening), try promoting these reforms:
    - eliminate ticket quotas and civil forfeitures;
    - stop marxist style ubiquitous use of police road blocks only allowing for the exception of searching for violent felons during an in progress incident.
    - Stop having smaller police departments overusing SWAT teams for silly non life threatening petty offense enforcement (that is what the over used phrase militarized police really is – – just a bunch of over eager small police departments overusing their SWAT teams for nonsense that involves no threats to officer/public safety).

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    When I was a teenager I used to deliver newspapers to blacks in the projects. I drove an MGB and I kept the top down and never had a problem delivering my papers or having anything stolen while I collected on subscriptions. My father used to send me into the middle of the black section of town to get BBQ from a restaurant there because that was the best BBQ in town. This was in a city of 250k people. Not small town USA. So, I have some real world experience with blacks as well, and I don't hate them just because they are black. They need to fix their problems themselves though because it cannot be done for them. If they aren't the solution it will never happen. That is why I say they are their own worse enemy.

    I agree with you about the SWAT problem, but just as with blacks, I do not think you can change the police from the outside either. They have to do it, and I think disarming would be a good start. You say cops live in a dangerous world, I say they have made it more dangerous by the brutality of their actions.

    Do we really have 400,000 cops in the US? Is that just local forces or are you also counting federal cops like the BATF and FBI? That is an occupying force and way too many cops. To me, it just shows how ridiculously large and oppressive the government has become and should be cut by at least 80% like the rest of the government mafia. I'm also sure it will never happen without a violent revolution. Perhaps we are seeing the start of one, but I doubt it.
  147. @gda
    But to ignore the correct statistical interpretation of the black/white IQ difference and the part genes play is to ignore the truth, just as we have been doing these past 50 years.

    Its a fact now that cops are more likely to shoot you if you're white than if you're black. Ask Derb to give you the figures.

    Its a fact that there are, statistically speaking, more blacks with STEM jobs than you would expect, given the requirement of having an IQ>115 to perform such a job adequately.

    Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males. The difference is genetic.

    So your claim about how "These types of generalizations are harmful and factually inane" is bull. That just perpetuates the false narratives of the grievance mongers that the reason blacks don't get ahead or are "unfaired" is because they "still suffer the effects of slavery and Jim Crow" or because "its all whitey's fault". Wake up and smell the coffee. You've been constantly lied to for all your life - use your brain to escape the lies. Many people do not have that capability, sadly.

    Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males. The difference is genetic.

    It’s also a fact that old, black males are involved in violent mass carnage at a much lesser rate than old, white males.

    In fact, old, rich, white males have a horrible record of mass murder including waging world wars, mass genocide, and the unjustified use of atomic weapons to name just a few examples of their hideous behavior.

    Izzat genetic or izzit because they’re a bunch of greedy, retarded, arrogant, degenerate cloacas? Hmmmm?

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    I don't reckon your from around here. Your grasp of reality shows an IQ landing on the left side of the bell curve.
  148. Paul Craig Roberts “Police Murder Because They Are Trained to Murder” got it right while JD above is blinded by his prejudices.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/police-murder-because-they-are-trained-to-murder/

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  149. @Corvinus
    "Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males."

    Yes.

    "The difference is genetic."

    Um, no. It MAY be genetic, but more likely environmental.

    Lets see what our friend Jayman has to say on the genetic thing (versus the environmental)

    https://jaymans.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/how-much-hard-evidence-do-you-need/

    How much hard evidence DO you need?

    The environmental explanation has truly gone the way of the dodo. The developments in the genetic “industry” recently have been quite astounding, and will be even more so in the near future.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    Jayman, of course, has a particular bias, and has been known to make his OWN conclusions from the studies to suit his narrative. For example. the results of any study regarding the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene, which Jay-Man offered, should be interpreted with caution in light of a number of limitations that need to be addressed in replication studies. First, the measures of psychopathic personality traits, ever arrested, and ever incarcerated were based on self reports, not official data. Although self-reports have been shown to be reliable and valid instruments for assessing antisocial phenotypes (Krueger et al., 1994; Sutton, 2010), it is possible that official crime data would have produced differing results. Second, the measures of criminal justice outcomes did not delineate between different types of offenders, such as violent predatory offenders versus non-violent property offenders. Perhaps the 2-repeat allele would have varying effects on different subcategories of offenders. Third, the sample analyzed in the current study is the same as the one analyzed in Guo et al.’s (2008) study. While some studies examined different outcome measures and focused only on African-American males, it is important that future studies estimate the association between the 2-repeat allele and antisocial phenotypes in other samples. Last, although the frequency of the 2-repeat allele is similar to prior research, only about 5% of the final analytical sample carried the 2-repeat allele. Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers. Until these limitations are addressed, it would be premature to hypothesize how the 2-repeat allele may impact criminal activity patterns in society. Regarding the Add Health Study, the researchers even cautioned that there is a weak causal link between those with higher dopamine levels and less education levels. That means there has yet to be an established cause, whether it be definitively biological or environmental. Regarding a study involving the DRD4 gene, which is associated with impulsive behavior, the researchers even acknowledged it is possible that individuals bearing these alleles were selected against because of cultural patterns in China.
    , @Sam Shama
    I actually agree with Corvinus' specific take on Jay Man's proclivity to bend [at times ridiculously] the results of studies he proffers with carefree abandon and brands as "Genetic Law", the statistical -inferential results. I had a lengthy argument with Jay Man on these matters, and while I am no expert on Genetics and genomic studies, I happen to know statistical methods quite well. So after a somewhat lengthy back and forth with Jayman, when he clearly felt cornered, [I reckon he never expected a reader to follow up on the prolific references he tosses as a way to deflect argument], he stopped publishing my replies, at which point Phil Giraldi allowed me to post these OT replies on his contemporaneous article.

    Here are the archives of the discussion:
    http://www.unz.com/comments/commenter/Sam+Shama/?s=+&searchsubmit=Search&authors=jayman&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Sam+Shama

    Do understand please, I am no SJW per by any stretch of the received definition, and I do believe that Affirmative Action on balance has been a failure in too many respects; discouraging individual effort and industry, encouraging entitlement, encouraging politically expedient behaviour, grift and finally inter-sectional resentment and angst. So, it has been a net load on society. It is of course easy to say so on a post hoc basis, and we shall never know with any certainty if things would have turned out better for Blacks [and society at large] had Affirmative Action not been instituted. Yet it is a far cry to conclude from all of this, that Blacks in general, accounting for all age groups and income levels, are more violence-prone than other racial sub-categories. Certainly it seems that the younger set are more violent, and the police force being keenly aware of this, are on balance inclined to value their own lives a bit more than those of potentially armed criminals.

    So what are we to do? I suppose it has to be a containable volatile environment in society, one for which we expend minimally sufficient amounts to keep the violent set [of all races] in hermetically sealed colonies. Which is in fact similar to what we have, have we not?
  150. @Corvinus
    "Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males."

    Yes.

    "The difference is genetic."

    Um, no. It MAY be genetic, but more likely environmental.

    No, it’s genetic. We don’t have the time for feel-good lies any more. The presence of blacks has a devastating effect on non-black societies and we know why. Our focus must be on doing all we can to keep as them as separate from us as possible. Let those who want to mix them do so, the rest of us can go our own way. We have everything to gain and nothing to lose from such an attitude.

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    "No, it’s genetic."

    Genetic and environmental, yes.

    "Our focus must be on doing all we can to keep as them as separate from us as possible."

    Who is this "we"?

    "Let those who want to mix them do so, the rest of us can go our own way."

    Who is "the rest of us"?
  151. You need to stop pretending that we have a future together while blacks are shooting at the police. Black thinkers believe that it was the school itself that provides the success while it was the standards that blacks couldn’t meet that leads to success. Blacks being at yale yelling at people to reject white male standards through bullhorns is not the formula that lead to Yale being a revered institution while the country plunges toward national bankruptcy. No more black supremacy. No more violent student activism or careerisrs overlooking such.

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  152. @Corvinus
    "Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males."

    Yes.

    "The difference is genetic."

    Um, no. It MAY be genetic, but more likely environmental.

    If it’s environmental then look at the family structure. You look at absolute material equality as the natural order of things. It’s not possible. You argument is that if any white person has anything that a black person doesn’t then the system is rigged. The proportion of whites who have an iq of over 115 is so much higher than for blacks that we shouldn’t expect equality. IQ is not the only thing that matters but it does matter.

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  153. @joef
    I read your other posts and I stand corrected you are not an afro american apologist.

    However my alleged 'racist blinders' is from real world experiences of myself as well as the majority of people I know who lived in urban areas, that adjoin afro american ghettos.
    What is your excuse? The anarcho capatilist crap with this freedom fighter nonsense against the police is a little tiring. They act like getting a traffic ticket is equivalent to the trip to the gulag. Its not a revelation that out of 400,000 police officers that there are a number of police abuse incidents by some aggressive egocentric cops.
    Where were the anarchos when police unions publicly complained about ticket quotas and had unsuccessful slowdowns because of it. Answer is: no where, because anarchos are just a bunch of utopian theorist like any socialist/marxist would be. All this anarcho capitalist anti police rhetoric just gives aid and comfort to the radical BLM crowd and are just making things worse for the rest of us. Instead of keeping their eye on the ball, they confuse the issue with their imaginative ideology of mass police killings of unarmed people by every officer in existence within all the different unrelated police departments in this nation. If that was true, with 400,000 police officers in this country, there should be bodies all over the place. Wow they must have swept all those 400,000 bodies under the rug somewhere without the rest of us knowing (with exception of the anarchos of course).

    But this is the real rub: they use the same collectivist guilt methods of leftist by saying all officers are responsible for the actions of others (sort of like what the afro americans and their lib handlers say about whites); that some how they all know what each other is thinking, and therefore are all accountable when an aggressive egocentric officer behaves badly. So lets add some logic with out the freedom fighter emotional nonsense of the Rothbard types:

    >> Unarmed people can kill you (maybe you do not know that or believe it, but it does not make it any less true)
    >> Most police officers work for different employers;
    >> Each employer has their own set of policies and procedures;
    >> All police officers do not know each other;
    >> Police officers do not have telepathic links with each other;
    >> The cop walking his foot post in a inner city has no idea what a cop in suburbia or rural areas are doing at this very moment and vice versa.
    >> A cop walking his inner city foot post has no control over some suburban/rural cop is abusing his authority at the moment, or vice versa.
    >> Just because you got abused by a cop does not make all the cops in the world, who don't even know each other, responsible for his behavior (especially since he does not even know that said incident even occurred)
    >> Like everyone else, protecting your own life is a fundamental human right, but somehow out of petty resentments, the anarchos want to deny police this right of having a rational self interest in protecting themselves from aggression.
    - - They just do not get it that when you attack the police right to use justified force, you are also attacking your own right to use justified force in the same circumstances. A person would have to be completely naive to think otherwise (if they do not let the police do it, do you really think the court system will let you do it?).
    >> And finally, to state the obvious, not every use of deadly force by police is illegitimate use of force.

    Instead of blaming all cops for things they have no control over, like the actions of the police hierarchy, or an aggressive egocentric peer who is not listening to him anyway and threatens him with a loss of backup (which is potentially life threatening), try promoting these reforms:
    - eliminate ticket quotas and civil forfeitures;
    - stop marxist style ubiquitous use of police road blocks only allowing for the exception of searching for violent felons during an in progress incident.
    - Stop having smaller police departments overusing SWAT teams for silly non life threatening petty offense enforcement (that is what the over used phrase militarized police really is - - just a bunch of over eager small police departments overusing their SWAT teams for nonsense that involves no threats to officer/public safety).

    When I was a teenager I used to deliver newspapers to blacks in the projects. I drove an MGB and I kept the top down and never had a problem delivering my papers or having anything stolen while I collected on subscriptions. My father used to send me into the middle of the black section of town to get BBQ from a restaurant there because that was the best BBQ in town. This was in a city of 250k people. Not small town USA. So, I have some real world experience with blacks as well, and I don’t hate them just because they are black. They need to fix their problems themselves though because it cannot be done for them. If they aren’t the solution it will never happen. That is why I say they are their own worse enemy.

    I agree with you about the SWAT problem, but just as with blacks, I do not think you can change the police from the outside either. They have to do it, and I think disarming would be a good start. You say cops live in a dangerous world, I say they have made it more dangerous by the brutality of their actions.

    Do we really have 400,000 cops in the US? Is that just local forces or are you also counting federal cops like the BATF and FBI? That is an occupying force and way too many cops. To me, it just shows how ridiculously large and oppressive the government has become and should be cut by at least 80% like the rest of the government mafia. I’m also sure it will never happen without a violent revolution. Perhaps we are seeing the start of one, but I doubt it.

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    Its not about liking or disliking blacks. The color of their skin makes no difference - - its the violent behavior and other associated dysfunctions that are the problem. I specify afro american instead of using the racial category black on purpose, because I am specifically talking about the ethnic group of afro americans as opposed to Sub Saharan African immigrant who on average are productive & behave in a much more respectful manner
    I am glad that you had good experiences with afro americans in a city. But understand many many of us of different races (one of my friends I visited in the hospital from an unprovoked afro american attack was Puerto Rican) did not have the same experiences. You were lucky, most of us were not.

    That figure 400,000 probably includes the FEDS. Are there too many law enforcement officers in this nation can be debated, and if there is a reduction it should start with the FEDS. But it is up to the local community to decide what they need. However you are not going to convince people in areas adjoining high crime rates.
    I think you are confusing the cause and effect of police violence:
    >> The police are more violent by working in violent areas, otherwise you would have police violence occurring in suburbia and rural areas at the same rate - - but it is not.
    Regarding disarming the police? Who would take the job then? You might as well give up the streets to the criminal gangs.

    , @RadicalCenter
    You think we can fire 80% of our cops and the Africans and other savages won't immediately run rampant robbing, raping, and killing?

    Where do you live?

    Have you ever lived in an African-majority neighborhood or town?
  154. @Salger
    >I’m afraid you’re very late to come to that conclusion. Your ‘morally conscientious’ White Christian ancestors should had realized that when they brought 10 million African slaves to the ‘civilized world’ while letting other 90 million slaves die during the journey.

    Hordes of Muslims took Blacks for slaves. And there were Black slave hunters and users in Africa.

    Salver please refrain from future comments unless you can get a grip on basic math

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    Tell me more on how White Christian Men took the most Black slaves. I guess slavery by Blacks and Arabs was okay since they didn't take as many Blacks?
  155. @Crawfurdmuir

    The black violence came when Southerners in general refused to honor the spirit of the law, which necessitated federal intervention. The South brought it upon themselves.
     
    I remember the 'sixties civil rights movement reasonably well, and do not recall that black violence took place particularly in the South. Black protests in the South were largely peaceful, and most of the violence there was on the parts of whites (e.g., the murders of Medgar Evers, Viola Liuzzo, Schwerner, Goodman, and Chaney). Most of the black rioting took place outside the South, e.g., in Chicago, Detroit, Watts, Baltimore, and Washington, D.C. (whether the last two should be considered parts of the South is questionable).

    Well of course you do. Corvinus is a revisionist with early stage dementia

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  156. @gda
    Lets see what our friend Jayman has to say on the genetic thing (versus the environmental)
    https://jaymans.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/how-much-hard-evidence-do-you-need/

    How much hard evidence DO you need?

    The environmental explanation has truly gone the way of the dodo. The developments in the genetic "industry" recently have been quite astounding, and will be even more so in the near future.

    Jayman, of course, has a particular bias, and has been known to make his OWN conclusions from the studies to suit his narrative. For example. the results of any study regarding the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene, which Jay-Man offered, should be interpreted with caution in light of a number of limitations that need to be addressed in replication studies. First, the measures of psychopathic personality traits, ever arrested, and ever incarcerated were based on self reports, not official data. Although self-reports have been shown to be reliable and valid instruments for assessing antisocial phenotypes (Krueger et al., 1994; Sutton, 2010), it is possible that official crime data would have produced differing results. Second, the measures of criminal justice outcomes did not delineate between different types of offenders, such as violent predatory offenders versus non-violent property offenders. Perhaps the 2-repeat allele would have varying effects on different subcategories of offenders. Third, the sample analyzed in the current study is the same as the one analyzed in Guo et al.’s (2008) study. While some studies examined different outcome measures and focused only on African-American males, it is important that future studies estimate the association between the 2-repeat allele and antisocial phenotypes in other samples. Last, although the frequency of the 2-repeat allele is similar to prior research, only about 5% of the final analytical sample carried the 2-repeat allele. Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers. Until these limitations are addressed, it would be premature to hypothesize how the 2-repeat allele may impact criminal activity patterns in society. Regarding the Add Health Study, the researchers even cautioned that there is a weak causal link between those with higher dopamine levels and less education levels. That means there has yet to be an established cause, whether it be definitively biological or environmental. Regarding a study involving the DRD4 gene, which is associated with impulsive behavior, the researchers even acknowledged it is possible that individuals bearing these alleles were selected against because of cultural patterns in China.

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    Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers. Until these limitations are addressed, it would be premature to hypothesize how the 2-repeat allele may impact criminal activity patterns in society.
     
    And there it is, the soft velvet glove that wraps the iron fist, presented with the oh-so-reasonable demeanor.

    Yes, we need "further research", but who controls the purse strings and the data? Who controls what research is done who gets to do it?

    No, Corvinus (Crow), I don't think you do, but I believe you know it is controlled and you seem to be happy with that.

    Of what little research is done it must be done by "good scientists". But Catch 22 says that a person who starts with a hypothesis of genetic differences is by definition not a "good scientist".

    "Good scientists" know that the fastest way to become a non-funded non-person is to question the orthodoxy, to tell the master that which he does not want to hear. If you don't think so ask James Watson or Satoshi Kanazawa. Why do you think La Griffe writes under a pseudonym?

    Only fools do not know the fist that is inside the glove. Only knaves pretend it is not there.

  157. @silviosilver
    No, it's genetic. We don't have the time for feel-good lies any more. The presence of blacks has a devastating effect on non-black societies and we know why. Our focus must be on doing all we can to keep as them as separate from us as possible. Let those who want to mix them do so, the rest of us can go our own way. We have everything to gain and nothing to lose from such an attitude.

    “No, it’s genetic.”

    Genetic and environmental, yes.

    “Our focus must be on doing all we can to keep as them as separate from us as possible.”

    Who is this “we”?

    “Let those who want to mix them do so, the rest of us can go our own way.”

    Who is “the rest of us”?

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    The rest of us are people who believe in standardized tests not violent protests. The rest of us are people who believe in the marriage contract unlike blacks or feminists. The rest of us are people who believe in objective third party standards such as due diligence in lending, IQ tests, asvab testing, gold standard in credit creation, and much else besides. It's going to be possible in the near future to train online people without the ed cartel and then what happens to your activism then.
    , @silviosilver

    Who is this “we”? Who is “the rest of us”?
     
    Non-blacks who don't want to see their societies devastated by blacks. Obviously that doesn't include you, so you go on your merry way and let us do the same. Pretty simple.
  158. The problem is that you have anarcho capitalist running cover for afro american atrocities along with the liberals. They try to make up a bogus case that police are shooting innocent unarmed persons routinely (if so where are all the bodies? Answer there are none except in anarcho produced fantasies)
    Even if we compared bad police shootings to afro american perpetrated homicide rate is like comparing a match flame to an inferno!!
    Its just silly anarcho nonsense expressed by whiners who got a traffic ticket from one obnoxious cop and believe they went through the gulag, and every other cop who wasn’t there is responsible for it. Like liberals, they do not even know that you can get killed by an unarmed man (it must be nice to live in such a sheltered life).
    With all the real problems going on with the deterioration of this nation, I wish the anarchos would just step aside with their silly freedom fighter fantasies and let the adults handle it.

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  159. @woodNfish
    When I was a teenager I used to deliver newspapers to blacks in the projects. I drove an MGB and I kept the top down and never had a problem delivering my papers or having anything stolen while I collected on subscriptions. My father used to send me into the middle of the black section of town to get BBQ from a restaurant there because that was the best BBQ in town. This was in a city of 250k people. Not small town USA. So, I have some real world experience with blacks as well, and I don't hate them just because they are black. They need to fix their problems themselves though because it cannot be done for them. If they aren't the solution it will never happen. That is why I say they are their own worse enemy.

    I agree with you about the SWAT problem, but just as with blacks, I do not think you can change the police from the outside either. They have to do it, and I think disarming would be a good start. You say cops live in a dangerous world, I say they have made it more dangerous by the brutality of their actions.

    Do we really have 400,000 cops in the US? Is that just local forces or are you also counting federal cops like the BATF and FBI? That is an occupying force and way too many cops. To me, it just shows how ridiculously large and oppressive the government has become and should be cut by at least 80% like the rest of the government mafia. I'm also sure it will never happen without a violent revolution. Perhaps we are seeing the start of one, but I doubt it.

    Its not about liking or disliking blacks. The color of their skin makes no difference – – its the violent behavior and other associated dysfunctions that are the problem. I specify afro american instead of using the racial category black on purpose, because I am specifically talking about the ethnic group of afro americans as opposed to Sub Saharan African immigrant who on average are productive & behave in a much more respectful manner
    I am glad that you had good experiences with afro americans in a city. But understand many many of us of different races (one of my friends I visited in the hospital from an unprovoked afro american attack was Puerto Rican) did not have the same experiences. You were lucky, most of us were not.

    That figure 400,000 probably includes the FEDS. Are there too many law enforcement officers in this nation can be debated, and if there is a reduction it should start with the FEDS. But it is up to the local community to decide what they need. However you are not going to convince people in areas adjoining high crime rates.
    I think you are confusing the cause and effect of police violence:
    >> The police are more violent by working in violent areas, otherwise you would have police violence occurring in suburbia and rural areas at the same rate – – but it is not.
    Regarding disarming the police? Who would take the job then? You might as well give up the streets to the criminal gangs.

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    We agree on many things, and I agree that blacks are more violent than other races. They seem to like killing each other even more than other races too. But as I have written, they are their own worse enemy.

    As for who would take the jobs, I think plenty of people would. Cops would no longer be seen a a lethal threat. That will probably save some cop lives and many more lives of unarmed citizens. I also think more people would trust the cops if they were disarmed. Most blacks do not want the crime in their neighborhoods either, but can't trust the cops who use their authority as a blunt instrument that just seems to make things worse.

    I don't pretend to have all the answers, but more of what is done now is not the answer. And I do not want to give more power and lethality to an already out of control and thuggish government.
  160. The developments in the genetic “industry” recently have been quite astounding, and will be even more so in the near future.

    Oh, how convenient.

    FYI, the developments in the propaganda industry have been quite astounding as well.

    While I have no quarrel with science, I do recognize that one fatal flaw is that it is conceived, paid for, conducted and its results interpreted by Homo sappyens for their own ends more often than not.

    NB: Just because some schmuck calls something “science” doesn’t mean we should believe it. Much of today’s so called “science” serves an agenda (as opposed to the search for truth) and hardly rises to the credibility of pop science.

    It gets even worse when Joe Schmo gets involved with his own interpretations of what he dreams is science.

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    A lot of hand waving with no discernible facts mentioned. Blah, bah, blah. "I refute genetics because its propaganda".

    And to think I come here for the intelligent comment. Tiny Duck, is that you?

  161. @Corvinus
    "No, it’s genetic."

    Genetic and environmental, yes.

    "Our focus must be on doing all we can to keep as them as separate from us as possible."

    Who is this "we"?

    "Let those who want to mix them do so, the rest of us can go our own way."

    Who is "the rest of us"?

    The rest of us are people who believe in standardized tests not violent protests. The rest of us are people who believe in the marriage contract unlike blacks or feminists. The rest of us are people who believe in objective third party standards such as due diligence in lending, IQ tests, asvab testing, gold standard in credit creation, and much else besides. It’s going to be possible in the near future to train online people without the ed cartel and then what happens to your activism then.

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  162. @joef
    Its not about liking or disliking blacks. The color of their skin makes no difference - - its the violent behavior and other associated dysfunctions that are the problem. I specify afro american instead of using the racial category black on purpose, because I am specifically talking about the ethnic group of afro americans as opposed to Sub Saharan African immigrant who on average are productive & behave in a much more respectful manner
    I am glad that you had good experiences with afro americans in a city. But understand many many of us of different races (one of my friends I visited in the hospital from an unprovoked afro american attack was Puerto Rican) did not have the same experiences. You were lucky, most of us were not.

    That figure 400,000 probably includes the FEDS. Are there too many law enforcement officers in this nation can be debated, and if there is a reduction it should start with the FEDS. But it is up to the local community to decide what they need. However you are not going to convince people in areas adjoining high crime rates.
    I think you are confusing the cause and effect of police violence:
    >> The police are more violent by working in violent areas, otherwise you would have police violence occurring in suburbia and rural areas at the same rate - - but it is not.
    Regarding disarming the police? Who would take the job then? You might as well give up the streets to the criminal gangs.

    We agree on many things, and I agree that blacks are more violent than other races. They seem to like killing each other even more than other races too. But as I have written, they are their own worse enemy.

    As for who would take the jobs, I think plenty of people would. Cops would no longer be seen a a lethal threat. That will probably save some cop lives and many more lives of unarmed citizens. I also think more people would trust the cops if they were disarmed. Most blacks do not want the crime in their neighborhoods either, but can’t trust the cops who use their authority as a blunt instrument that just seems to make things worse.

    I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but more of what is done now is not the answer. And I do not want to give more power and lethality to an already out of control and thuggish government.

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    So, Africans won't swarm, overpower and kill these unarmed cops?
    , @joef
    You act as if a gun is a talisman that controls human actions (thats similar to what liberals believe) Its not the gun, its the personality holding the gun. Saying a gun will make a cop abuse his authority is similar to the liberal nonsense that guns cause crime. It does not.
    If you hire an officer who believes that police work is a calling, or an average joe who just needs a job, it will not be a gun that modifies his behavior (although years of urban ghetto police experience can modify anyones behavior for the worse). If you hired an aggressive egocentric as a cop he will be abusive with or without a gun (although maybe more cautious without a gun).
    Aggressive egocentrics, machiavellians, sociopaths, and narcissist persons, enjoy positions of power regardless if they have firearms available, and those type of people are not a reflection of people who work as police officers who are not like them. The gun does not make the personality, its the personality holding the gun, and the gun changes nothing except the ability to address in progress armed felony violent crimes.

    - - It does strike me odd that we always to prefer to attack the police for alleged transgressions but we always seem to give the ghetto afro american thugs a pass (probably because police families only provide million votes and afro americans and their white guilt panderers provides tens of millions of votes; the politicians and MSM are just going with the winning side).

    Its somewhat utopian to believe Afro american criminals do merely attack each other, I can assure you otherwise that they attack the rest of society as well (This crime causes billions of dollars of damages to our economy); and if cannot be contained with a armed police force, what makes you believe it can be contained with an unarmed police force.

    I lived in the days of street justice and police officers in those days readily cooperated with street justice administered by the community (no questions asked), as it should be. That did keep criminals somewhat manageable, but not completely. What stopped the administration of street justice was sometimes it was abused (they beat up the wrong guy or someone who was merely just passing through); and second, the liberal MSM and district attorneys office hated it because it challenged their monopoly on criminal justice (which was nothing but a catch and release program: the police catch & courts release).

    When legitimate street justice stopped, and residents could no longer be involved in the security of their own neighborhoods, that led to the rapid deterioration of the areas, and promoted white (and working class hispanic) flight.

  163. @Corvinus
    Jayman, of course, has a particular bias, and has been known to make his OWN conclusions from the studies to suit his narrative. For example. the results of any study regarding the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene, which Jay-Man offered, should be interpreted with caution in light of a number of limitations that need to be addressed in replication studies. First, the measures of psychopathic personality traits, ever arrested, and ever incarcerated were based on self reports, not official data. Although self-reports have been shown to be reliable and valid instruments for assessing antisocial phenotypes (Krueger et al., 1994; Sutton, 2010), it is possible that official crime data would have produced differing results. Second, the measures of criminal justice outcomes did not delineate between different types of offenders, such as violent predatory offenders versus non-violent property offenders. Perhaps the 2-repeat allele would have varying effects on different subcategories of offenders. Third, the sample analyzed in the current study is the same as the one analyzed in Guo et al.’s (2008) study. While some studies examined different outcome measures and focused only on African-American males, it is important that future studies estimate the association between the 2-repeat allele and antisocial phenotypes in other samples. Last, although the frequency of the 2-repeat allele is similar to prior research, only about 5% of the final analytical sample carried the 2-repeat allele. Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers. Until these limitations are addressed, it would be premature to hypothesize how the 2-repeat allele may impact criminal activity patterns in society. Regarding the Add Health Study, the researchers even cautioned that there is a weak causal link between those with higher dopamine levels and less education levels. That means there has yet to be an established cause, whether it be definitively biological or environmental. Regarding a study involving the DRD4 gene, which is associated with impulsive behavior, the researchers even acknowledged it is possible that individuals bearing these alleles were selected against because of cultural patterns in China.

    Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers. Until these limitations are addressed, it would be premature to hypothesize how the 2-repeat allele may impact criminal activity patterns in society.

    And there it is, the soft velvet glove that wraps the iron fist, presented with the oh-so-reasonable demeanor.

    Yes, we need “further research”, but who controls the purse strings and the data? Who controls what research is done who gets to do it?

    No, Corvinus (Crow), I don’t think you do, but I believe you know it is controlled and you seem to be happy with that.

    Of what little research is done it must be done by “good scientists”. But Catch 22 says that a person who starts with a hypothesis of genetic differences is by definition not a “good scientist”.

    “Good scientists” know that the fastest way to become a non-funded non-person is to question the orthodoxy, to tell the master that which he does not want to hear. If you don’t think so ask James Watson or Satoshi Kanazawa. Why do you think La Griffe writes under a pseudonym?

    Only fools do not know the fist that is inside the glove. Only knaves pretend it is not there.

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    "Yes, we need “further research”, but who controls the purse strings and the data? Who controls what research is done who gets to do it?"

    Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe.

    "“Good scientists” know that the fastest way to become a non-funded non-person is to question the orthodoxy, to tell the master that which he does not want to hear."

    Assuming that these "good scientists" are adhering to the scientific method and are taking precautions so as to their own prejudices are not infused in the results of their experiments. It is not even remotely reasonable to take scientific evidence at face value anymore, much less the pseudoscience so often being substituted for the results produced by genuine, if often flawed, scientists. Anytime a study is cited, there is already a shadow cast over it, in particular race and genetics.

    "If you don’t think so ask James Watson or Satoshi Kanazawa."

    They can EASILY find financial backers for their scientific ventures. Contact your local chapter of white nationalists.

    "Why do you think La Griffe writes under a pseudonym?"

    Maybe he realizes deep down he would have to up his game considerable in the face of criticism for his methodologies and interpretation of results.
  164. @Avery
    What's the matter [International Jew]: the fact that I brought up Israel is living off of American taxpayer generosity hurt your feelings?

    Better sense of humor and a stronger grasp of the facts.

    US aid to Israel amounts to 1% of Israel’s GDP, so one can hardly say Israel is “living off the US taxpayer”.

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    So that means the 4 billion or so a year we send is totally unnecessary? Have them cut us a check brother.
    , @RadicalCenter
    If the USA publicly announced that it no longer considered Israel an ally and that it was neutral in the Israeli-Arab conflict and would not aid Israel in a war, how much more would Israel need to spend on its military?
    , @Avery
    {US aid to Israel amounts to 1% of Israel’s GDP, so one can hardly say Israel is “living off the US taxpayer”.}

    Then please, pretty please ask Israeli leaders from begging, sorry demanding, US$5 billion @ year from US taxpayers.

    And about that Israeli GDP: what percentage of that GDP is thanks to US markets being fully open to Israeli goods, US military technology being stolen by Israel and being sold to US's enemies (China), Israeli firms given unfettered access to US consumer....and on and on.

    Israel can put its convictions where its begging mouth is and stop demanding aid from US taxpayers.

    [US officials: Israel requesting $5 billion in annual defense aid]
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-officials-israel-requesting-5-billion-in-annual-defense-aid/
  165. What can’t be argued is that blacks have been hurt tremendously by the relentless importation of cheap labor for menial work. How ironic, then, that blacks are loyal to a Democratic Party that has robbed them of employment and dignity. Liberal immigration policies harm blacks more than anybody.

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    • Replies: @Joe Franklin
    Most urban Blacks have hitched their wagon to the federal government and its illicit diversity policies for their livelihood, not to the free market.

    All diversity victim cult people have a similar federal government dependent ideology.


    Women are entitled because of Male oppression
    Jewish are entitled because of Gentile oppression
    Queers are entitled because of Straight oppression
    Muslims are entitled because of Christian oppression
    Disabled are entitled because of Healthy oppression
    Afro-blacks are entitled because of White oppression
    Latinos are entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Hispanics are entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Military Veteran are entitled because of Militia oppression
    2-party System Dependents are entitled because of Independent oppression
    Aboriginals are entitled because of Paleface oppression
    Asians are entitled because of Occidental oppression
    National Socialist are entitled because of local-state Government oppression
    Crony Capitalist are entitled because of honest Businessmen oppression
    Zionist are entitled because of anti-Fascist oppression
  166. @gda
    Lets see what our friend Jayman has to say on the genetic thing (versus the environmental)
    https://jaymans.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/how-much-hard-evidence-do-you-need/

    How much hard evidence DO you need?

    The environmental explanation has truly gone the way of the dodo. The developments in the genetic "industry" recently have been quite astounding, and will be even more so in the near future.

    I actually agree with Corvinus’ specific take on Jay Man’s proclivity to bend [at times ridiculously] the results of studies he proffers with carefree abandon and brands as “Genetic Law”, the statistical -inferential results. I had a lengthy argument with Jay Man on these matters, and while I am no expert on Genetics and genomic studies, I happen to know statistical methods quite well. So after a somewhat lengthy back and forth with Jayman, when he clearly felt cornered, [I reckon he never expected a reader to follow up on the prolific references he tosses as a way to deflect argument], he stopped publishing my replies, at which point Phil Giraldi allowed me to post these OT replies on his contemporaneous article.

    Here are the archives of the discussion:

    http://www.unz.com/comments/commenter/Sam+Shama/?s=+&searchsubmit=Search&authors=jayman&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Sam+Shama

    Do understand please, I am no SJW per by any stretch of the received definition, and I do believe that Affirmative Action on balance has been a failure in too many respects; discouraging individual effort and industry, encouraging entitlement, encouraging politically expedient behaviour, grift and finally inter-sectional resentment and angst. So, it has been a net load on society. It is of course easy to say so on a post hoc basis, and we shall never know with any certainty if things would have turned out better for Blacks [and society at large] had Affirmative Action not been instituted. Yet it is a far cry to conclude from all of this, that Blacks in general, accounting for all age groups and income levels, are more violence-prone than other racial sub-categories. Certainly it seems that the younger set are more violent, and the police force being keenly aware of this, are on balance inclined to value their own lives a bit more than those of potentially armed criminals.

    So what are we to do? I suppose it has to be a containable volatile environment in society, one for which we expend minimally sufficient amounts to keep the violent set [of all races] in hermetically sealed colonies. Which is in fact similar to what we have, have we not?

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  167. @Jacques Sheete

    The developments in the genetic “industry” recently have been quite astounding, and will be even more so in the near future.
     
    Oh, how convenient.


    FYI, the developments in the propaganda industry have been quite astounding as well.

    While I have no quarrel with science, I do recognize that one fatal flaw is that it is conceived, paid for, conducted and its results interpreted by Homo sappyens for their own ends more often than not.

    NB: Just because some schmuck calls something "science" doesn't mean we should believe it. Much of today's so called "science" serves an agenda (as opposed to the search for truth) and hardly rises to the credibility of pop science.

    It gets even worse when Joe Schmo gets involved with his own interpretations of what he dreams is science.

    A lot of hand waving with no discernible facts mentioned. Blah, bah, blah. “I refute genetics because its propaganda”.

    And to think I come here for the intelligent comment. Tiny Duck, is that you?

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  168. @Jacques Sheete

    Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males. The difference is genetic.
     
    It's also a fact that old, black males are involved in violent mass carnage at a much lesser rate than old, white males.

    In fact, old, rich, white males have a horrible record of mass murder including waging world wars, mass genocide, and the unjustified use of atomic weapons to name just a few examples of their hideous behavior.

    Izzat genetic or izzit because they're a bunch of greedy, retarded, arrogant, degenerate cloacas? Hmmmm?

    I don’t reckon your from around here. Your grasp of reality shows an IQ landing on the left side of the bell curve.

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    You might be more credible if you could spell "you're."
  169. @International Jew
    Better sense of humor and a stronger grasp of the facts.

    US aid to Israel amounts to 1% of Israel's GDP, so one can hardly say Israel is "living off the US taxpayer".

    So that means the 4 billion or so a year we send is totally unnecessary? Have them cut us a check brother.

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  170. @utu
    "People kill each other daily, and now suddenly everyone is butt hurt over five guys who volunteered to put on a uniform, and join the violence." - Great comment!

    I don’t like or trust cops either, but no, they didn’t “sign up” to be murdered by a fifth column of borderline-retarded, parasitic, America-hating, white-hating cretins. That’s contemptible.

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  171. @woodNfish
    When I was a teenager I used to deliver newspapers to blacks in the projects. I drove an MGB and I kept the top down and never had a problem delivering my papers or having anything stolen while I collected on subscriptions. My father used to send me into the middle of the black section of town to get BBQ from a restaurant there because that was the best BBQ in town. This was in a city of 250k people. Not small town USA. So, I have some real world experience with blacks as well, and I don't hate them just because they are black. They need to fix their problems themselves though because it cannot be done for them. If they aren't the solution it will never happen. That is why I say they are their own worse enemy.

    I agree with you about the SWAT problem, but just as with blacks, I do not think you can change the police from the outside either. They have to do it, and I think disarming would be a good start. You say cops live in a dangerous world, I say they have made it more dangerous by the brutality of their actions.

    Do we really have 400,000 cops in the US? Is that just local forces or are you also counting federal cops like the BATF and FBI? That is an occupying force and way too many cops. To me, it just shows how ridiculously large and oppressive the government has become and should be cut by at least 80% like the rest of the government mafia. I'm also sure it will never happen without a violent revolution. Perhaps we are seeing the start of one, but I doubt it.

    You think we can fire 80% of our cops and the Africans and other savages won’t immediately run rampant robbing, raping, and killing?

    Where do you live?

    Have you ever lived in an African-majority neighborhood or town?

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    1. Yes, I do, and no I don't. Blacks mainly kill each other. I would rather have an armed citizenry and very, very very small government than the fascist surveillance police state we have now.

    2. I live at home.

    3. No I haven't, and I won't because I am not moving to Africa or do you mean black amerikans?
  172. @woodNfish
    We agree on many things, and I agree that blacks are more violent than other races. They seem to like killing each other even more than other races too. But as I have written, they are their own worse enemy.

    As for who would take the jobs, I think plenty of people would. Cops would no longer be seen a a lethal threat. That will probably save some cop lives and many more lives of unarmed citizens. I also think more people would trust the cops if they were disarmed. Most blacks do not want the crime in their neighborhoods either, but can't trust the cops who use their authority as a blunt instrument that just seems to make things worse.

    I don't pretend to have all the answers, but more of what is done now is not the answer. And I do not want to give more power and lethality to an already out of control and thuggish government.

    So, Africans won’t swarm, overpower and kill these unarmed cops?

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  173. @International Jew
    Better sense of humor and a stronger grasp of the facts.

    US aid to Israel amounts to 1% of Israel's GDP, so one can hardly say Israel is "living off the US taxpayer".

    If the USA publicly announced that it no longer considered Israel an ally and that it was neutral in the Israeli-Arab conflict and would not aid Israel in a war, how much more would Israel need to spend on its military?

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  174. @Kyle a
    I don't reckon your from around here. Your grasp of reality shows an IQ landing on the left side of the bell curve.

    You might be more credible if you could spell “you’re.”

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    You might be more credible if you could spell “you’re.”
     
    Because being a grammar Nazi in a comments section screams of heroism and credibility.
  175. @RadicalCenter
    You might be more credible if you could spell "you're."

    You might be more credible if you could spell “you’re.”

    Because being a grammar Nazi in a comments section screams of heroism and credibility.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Didn't say it was heroic to be grammatical, just that it tends to make us more credible. Most people learn the difference between "you're" and "your" in elementary school, and your sarcasm doesn't change the embarrassing fact that you never did.
  176. @Biff





    You might be more credible if you could spell “you’re.”
     
    Because being a grammar Nazi in a comments section screams of heroism and credibility.

    Didn’t say it was heroic to be grammatical, just that it tends to make us more credible. Most people learn the difference between “you’re” and “your” in elementary school, and your sarcasm doesn’t change the embarrassing fact that you never did.

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  177. @Kyle a
    Salver please refrain from future comments unless you can get a grip on basic math

    Tell me more on how White Christian Men took the most Black slaves. I guess slavery by Blacks and Arabs was okay since they didn’t take as many Blacks?

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  178. @International Jew
    Better sense of humor and a stronger grasp of the facts.

    US aid to Israel amounts to 1% of Israel's GDP, so one can hardly say Israel is "living off the US taxpayer".

    {US aid to Israel amounts to 1% of Israel’s GDP, so one can hardly say Israel is “living off the US taxpayer”.}

    Then please, pretty please ask Israeli leaders from begging, sorry demanding, US$5 billion @ year from US taxpayers.

    And about that Israeli GDP: what percentage of that GDP is thanks to US markets being fully open to Israeli goods, US military technology being stolen by Israel and being sold to US’s enemies (China), Israeli firms given unfettered access to US consumer….and on and on.

    Israel can put its convictions where its begging mouth is and stop demanding aid from US taxpayers.

    [US officials: Israel requesting $5 billion in annual defense aid]

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-officials-israel-requesting-5-billion-in-annual-defense-aid/

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    • Replies: @Clyde
    The Israelis do a great job against the Islamic Jihad and you should have extra taken from your paycheck to support their efforts. Just look how the Jews stack up against the Euro-Weenie French and Germans when it comes to taking on Islamic imperialism and Islamic psycho-killers.
  179. @RadicalCenter
    You think we can fire 80% of our cops and the Africans and other savages won't immediately run rampant robbing, raping, and killing?

    Where do you live?

    Have you ever lived in an African-majority neighborhood or town?

    1. Yes, I do, and no I don’t. Blacks mainly kill each other. I would rather have an armed citizenry and very, very very small government than the fascist surveillance police state we have now.

    2. I live at home.

    3. No I haven’t, and I won’t because I am not moving to Africa or do you mean black amerikans?

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  180. @Simon in London
    Judging by UK experience, where by and large the races are treated equally within a Liberal narrative frame, equal treatment would help a bit. Certainly there isn't the same level of inter-racial hostility here as in the USA, despite the best efforts of the cultural Marxists to whip up US-style hatred of whites.

    I’m Scottish Simon, but I’m wondering which London you’re in–it must be London Ontario, but it certainly isn’t the ethnically enriched London where the diversity were so vibrant in the summer of 2011 that the rest of the world thought that there was a riot going on. The MSM, of course, denied reality and the suggestion that the vast majority were soul brothas and sistas, and lots and lots of other “Britons” called Mohammed or Abdul. Here’s an hilarious clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s_JQsOECyc of 30seconds of Sky News hag Kaye Burley interviewing an eye witness to ask him what he saw and telling him he couldn’t possibly have seen what he actually saw.
    . The guy. “Big Jim” was kind of young and hipster-looking, and Burley was very smiley and flirtatious with him until he said he saw ”lots of black guys raiding one of my businesses.” The truth was very obviously what she didn’t want to hear, she didn’t want the viewers to hear it either, and Burley repeated that she was sure he didn’t see what he saw, then cut the interview short . “Big Jim starts at 2mins 30 seconds in. I recommend you jump to that, unless if you have a good ear for the jungle-grunt Shamaican and a desire to hear yet more PC tripe of the hip-hop “artist” Burley interviewed first.

    Interestingly, as the riots progressed and trembling reporters were sent to cover rioting as it happened, their narrative of multi-kulti bliss collapsed in front of their eyes: the bien pensant metropolitan types pensant-ed a little less bien, and a lot more accurately, as the mob moved much closer to Notting Hill, where many of the Polmeeja live.
    For a couple of days we had news that almost reflected reality, but when the riots fizzled out, the normal rose-tinted PC lens was replaced on the cameras and they decided that it all be Whitey’s fott fo’ shooting de bruthah Mark Duggan, who was only dealin’ dope and such gangsta stuff.
    and who had just bought a ( highly illegal) gun from a Brutha from anutha mutha to aid him in his business, and those pig b@stards shot him befo’ he had a chance to shoot dem.
    See?
    It’s just like America, Simon, with the added complication of millions more hostile and unassimilable Muslims in a much smaller nation.
    BTW, for everyone’s sake, I would be delighted if history proves you right and me just another bigoted piece of working class White trash, but the most superficial examination of history indicates otherwise,

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    I was in Bank on the night of the 'riot'. I remember my then-wife phoned me at 9pm: "You have to come home! London's burning!"

    I'd just say there wasn't the same level of racist attacks on whites for being white here that you see in US riots like the 1992 LA riots. There simply is not the same level of racist hate against whites in the UK that you see in the USA. Have you visited the USA? I remember going in 1996, arriving in Detroit airport, the venomous hate from the black airport staff was shocking. I eventually got used to it a bit, as I guess most white Americans do. Blacks in London commit huge amounts of violent crime but there is nothing like US levels of racial hatred.
  181. @Jay Igaboo
    I'm Scottish Simon, but I'm wondering which London you're in--it must be London Ontario, but it certainly isn't the ethnically enriched London where the diversity were so vibrant in the summer of 2011 that the rest of the world thought that there was a riot going on. The MSM, of course, denied reality and the suggestion that the vast majority were soul brothas and sistas, and lots and lots of other "Britons" called Mohammed or Abdul. Here's an hilarious clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s_JQsOECyc of 30seconds of Sky News hag Kaye Burley interviewing an eye witness to ask him what he saw and telling him he couldn't possibly have seen what he actually saw.
    . The guy. “Big Jim” was kind of young and hipster-looking, and Burley was very smiley and flirtatious with him until he said he saw ”lots of black guys raiding one of my businesses.” The truth was very obviously what she didn’t want to hear, she didn’t want the viewers to hear it either, and Burley repeated that she was sure he didn’t see what he saw, then cut the interview short . “Big Jim starts at 2mins 30 seconds in. I recommend you jump to that, unless if you have a good ear for the jungle-grunt Shamaican and a desire to hear yet more PC tripe of the hip-hop “artist” Burley interviewed first.

    Interestingly, as the riots progressed and trembling reporters were sent to cover rioting as it happened, their narrative of multi-kulti bliss collapsed in front of their eyes: the bien pensant metropolitan types pensant-ed a little less bien, and a lot more accurately, as the mob moved much closer to Notting Hill, where many of the Polmeeja live.
    For a couple of days we had news that almost reflected reality, but when the riots fizzled out, the normal rose-tinted PC lens was replaced on the cameras and they decided that it all be Whitey’s fott fo’ shooting de bruthah Mark Duggan, who was only dealin’ dope and such gangsta stuff.
    and who had just bought a ( highly illegal) gun from a Brutha from anutha mutha to aid him in his business, and those pig b@stards shot him befo’ he had a chance to shoot dem.
    See?
    It’s just like America, Simon, with the added complication of millions more hostile and unassimilable Muslims in a much smaller nation.
    BTW, for everyone’s sake, I would be delighted if history proves you right and me just another bigoted piece of working class White trash, but the most superficial examination of history indicates otherwise,

    I was in Bank on the night of the ‘riot’. I remember my then-wife phoned me at 9pm: “You have to come home! London’s burning!”

    I’d just say there wasn’t the same level of racist attacks on whites for being white here that you see in US riots like the 1992 LA riots. There simply is not the same level of racist hate against whites in the UK that you see in the USA. Have you visited the USA? I remember going in 1996, arriving in Detroit airport, the venomous hate from the black airport staff was shocking. I eventually got used to it a bit, as I guess most white Americans do. Blacks in London commit huge amounts of violent crime but there is nothing like US levels of racial hatred.

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    Well, Simon, I think that for a number of reasons it is quite difficult to quantify the average degree of hatred some Blacks have for Whites in the two nations.
    The main reason is that in both, the leaders and apparatchiks of the governments and the MSM connive to conceal anything that contradicts the multi-kulti narrative.
    Yes, I have been in the States, and travelled widely throughout the Americas.
    I first went to the USA with our Army in 1970, and in a two- week leave period I hitched with a comrade through the New England states. Hitching is a great way to get the "feel" of a country, and I got lifts from (mostly) Whites, a couple of Blacks, and two (very drunk Indians!). The two blotto Indians were entertaining, to say the least, especially as there was no speed limit on the highway till the Arabs turned off the oil tap in '73.
    Regardless of race, it's generally nice folks that give a hitcher a lift, I've often been entertained, educated and enlightened, the worst that's ever happened is some have bored me!
    My next trip was in '78, when with a girl friend I delivered a car for Autodriveaway ( what a great idea, American efficiency at its best, you deliver a car and pay nothing). Over the five days you have to deliver it, I drove a Firebird from NY to Ft Worth TX. then picked upa Dodge Brougham and drove the Border in Brownsville .
    After a couple of months in Latin America, I hitched and drove from Nuebo Laredo to Florida.
    Again, a met many Americans of all races, conversed much and stayed as a guest with two of them.
    What I learned from my encounters was rather surprising, and very different from the liberal Hollywood portrayal of race in America.
    I found that people of all races were generally more courteous (by a country mile) than in the North, and that race relations seemed more amiable in the South.
    I stayed with a middle-class farming couple as a guest for a couple of days, and with another couple whom HollyYork would consider White trailer-trash( as nasty a piece of stereotyping as anything out there.) These “trailer trash” were married with a young daughter, working, and thoroughly decent. And without animus to Blacks, but slightly aggrieved at their special privilege.
    The husband worked down in the refinery a fair drive away, and considered himself really fortunate to be employed there, remarking to me “ The first choice for a job, is the Black woman, followed by the Black man”.
    As PC had not taken its stranglehold on British life back then, I dismissed this as a nonsense statement—I really didn’t think that either sensible or true- my belated apologies to him.

    As regards your “arriving in Detroit airport, the venomous hate from the black airport staff was shocking” I encountered similar from NY Blacks employed in service industries, including a ticket clerk in NY subway who was infuriated by my polite request to repeat his answer (given in unintelligible lumpen ghetto) to my enquiry. He became even nastier every time I asked him to speak slowly and clearly, and as I took no sh/t whatsoever from ignoramuses in those days, I responded in kind, attracting the attention of a subway cop. After explaining the situation, he gave me a “these people” observation that would get him fired these days for Thought Crime.
    On the other hand, as I said, in The South, I found any coloured folk in or out of their work, pleasant more often than not, and certainly no indication of hatred.
    However, the London riots were a clear indication of how much too many Blacks and too many Muslims hate Whites—as are the hugely disproportionate crimes they commit against Whites, and their levels of passive aggression.
  182. @Corvinus
    "No, it’s genetic."

    Genetic and environmental, yes.

    "Our focus must be on doing all we can to keep as them as separate from us as possible."

    Who is this "we"?

    "Let those who want to mix them do so, the rest of us can go our own way."

    Who is "the rest of us"?

    Who is this “we”? Who is “the rest of us”?

    Non-blacks who don’t want to see their societies devastated by blacks. Obviously that doesn’t include you, so you go on your merry way and let us do the same. Pretty simple.

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  183. @Corvinus
    "I see two ways out, but neither is particularly pleasant: (1) partition of the U.S. and the creation of black homeland (I know, it’s Ghana next to Switzerland)"

    A coward's way out, yes. More importantly, are all whites on board with this proposal? Should they? If not, are they "anti-white".

    "(2) the creation of a managed economy in which blacks are given something economically useful to do (the 21st Century equivalent of picking cotton, along with white-collar set-asides) ) in exchange for a guaranteed income, coupled with a eugenics program that encourages blacks not to breed and penalizes them if they do so in excessive numbers."

    Which is socialism. And, seriously, why are some "race realists" hell-bent on eugenics for only ONE group, when there are plenty of low IQ whites who also breed like rabbits.

    Praytell, how many children do YOU have? At least 5 white kids, right?

    "So we’ll stumble along until inter-tribal warfare becomes intolerable."

    I'll wait for the movie to come out.

    I don’t know of any low iq whites that breed like rabbits that’s just something that you invented right here. The reason we are so hell bent on eugenics for one group is because blacks are so far behind. What future do you see with the cops being shot at?

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  184. @Simon in London
    I was in Bank on the night of the 'riot'. I remember my then-wife phoned me at 9pm: "You have to come home! London's burning!"

    I'd just say there wasn't the same level of racist attacks on whites for being white here that you see in US riots like the 1992 LA riots. There simply is not the same level of racist hate against whites in the UK that you see in the USA. Have you visited the USA? I remember going in 1996, arriving in Detroit airport, the venomous hate from the black airport staff was shocking. I eventually got used to it a bit, as I guess most white Americans do. Blacks in London commit huge amounts of violent crime but there is nothing like US levels of racial hatred.

    Well, Simon, I think that for a number of reasons it is quite difficult to quantify the average degree of hatred some Blacks have for Whites in the two nations.
    The main reason is that in both, the leaders and apparatchiks of the governments and the MSM connive to conceal anything that contradicts the multi-kulti narrative.
    Yes, I have been in the States, and travelled widely throughout the Americas.
    I first went to the USA with our Army in 1970, and in a two- week leave period I hitched with a comrade through the New England states. Hitching is a great way to get the “feel” of a country, and I got lifts from (mostly) Whites, a couple of Blacks, and two (very drunk Indians!). The two blotto Indians were entertaining, to say the least, especially as there was no speed limit on the highway till the Arabs turned off the oil tap in ’73.
    Regardless of race, it’s generally nice folks that give a hitcher a lift, I’ve often been entertained, educated and enlightened, the worst that’s ever happened is some have bored me!
    My next trip was in ’78, when with a girl friend I delivered a car for Autodriveaway ( what a great idea, American efficiency at its best, you deliver a car and pay nothing). Over the five days you have to deliver it, I drove a Firebird from NY to Ft Worth TX. then picked upa Dodge Brougham and drove the Border in Brownsville .
    After a couple of months in Latin America, I hitched and drove from Nuebo Laredo to Florida.
    Again, a met many Americans of all races, conversed much and stayed as a guest with two of them.
    What I learned from my encounters was rather surprising, and very different from the liberal Hollywood portrayal of race in America.
    I found that people of all races were generally more courteous (by a country mile) than in the North, and that race relations seemed more amiable in the South.
    I stayed with a middle-class farming couple as a guest for a couple of days, and with another couple whom HollyYork would consider White trailer-trash( as nasty a piece of stereotyping as anything out there.) These “trailer trash” were married with a young daughter, working, and thoroughly decent. And without animus to Blacks, but slightly aggrieved at their special privilege.
    The husband worked down in the refinery a fair drive away, and considered himself really fortunate to be employed there, remarking to me “ The first choice for a job, is the Black woman, followed by the Black man”.
    As PC had not taken its stranglehold on British life back then, I dismissed this as a nonsense statement—I really didn’t think that either sensible or true- my belated apologies to him.

    As regards your “arriving in Detroit airport, the venomous hate from the black airport staff was shocking” I encountered similar from NY Blacks employed in service industries, including a ticket clerk in NY subway who was infuriated by my polite request to repeat his answer (given in unintelligible lumpen ghetto) to my enquiry. He became even nastier every time I asked him to speak slowly and clearly, and as I took no sh/t whatsoever from ignoramuses in those days, I responded in kind, attracting the attention of a subway cop. After explaining the situation, he gave me a “these people” observation that would get him fired these days for Thought Crime.
    On the other hand, as I said, in The South, I found any coloured folk in or out of their work, pleasant more often than not, and certainly no indication of hatred.
    However, the London riots were a clear indication of how much too many Blacks and too many Muslims hate Whites—as are the hugely disproportionate crimes they commit against Whites, and their levels of passive aggression.

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  185. @Corvinus
    "Its a fact that young, black males are involved in violent crime at a much greater rate than young, white males."

    Yes.

    "The difference is genetic."

    Um, no. It MAY be genetic, but more likely environmental.

    Bit of both, if you’re honest.
    When times were bad for Black Americans, they aspired to much the same goals as Whites did then, and they were (same as many Whites now) not deliberately degraded by Marxist deconstruction of the family , education and morality to to the hedonistic and bestial level many a currently occupy. When people do not have a strong moral framework, and a social infrastructure that reinforces it, generally, (but with exceptions) the less intelligent are more easily manipulated and corrupted.
    I suppose the exception to that would be the intelligent secular Jew who has exchanged his religioun, with its moral strictures for the quasi-religion of Cultural Marxism.

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  186. @woodNfish
    We agree on many things, and I agree that blacks are more violent than other races. They seem to like killing each other even more than other races too. But as I have written, they are their own worse enemy.

    As for who would take the jobs, I think plenty of people would. Cops would no longer be seen a a lethal threat. That will probably save some cop lives and many more lives of unarmed citizens. I also think more people would trust the cops if they were disarmed. Most blacks do not want the crime in their neighborhoods either, but can't trust the cops who use their authority as a blunt instrument that just seems to make things worse.

    I don't pretend to have all the answers, but more of what is done now is not the answer. And I do not want to give more power and lethality to an already out of control and thuggish government.

    You act as if a gun is a talisman that controls human actions (thats similar to what liberals believe) Its not the gun, its the personality holding the gun. Saying a gun will make a cop abuse his authority is similar to the liberal nonsense that guns cause crime. It does not.
    If you hire an officer who believes that police work is a calling, or an average joe who just needs a job, it will not be a gun that modifies his behavior (although years of urban ghetto police experience can modify anyones behavior for the worse). If you hired an aggressive egocentric as a cop he will be abusive with or without a gun (although maybe more cautious without a gun).
    Aggressive egocentrics, machiavellians, sociopaths, and narcissist persons, enjoy positions of power regardless if they have firearms available, and those type of people are not a reflection of people who work as police officers who are not like them. The gun does not make the personality, its the personality holding the gun, and the gun changes nothing except the ability to address in progress armed felony violent crimes.

    - – It does strike me odd that we always to prefer to attack the police for alleged transgressions but we always seem to give the ghetto afro american thugs a pass (probably because police families only provide million votes and afro americans and their white guilt panderers provides tens of millions of votes; the politicians and MSM are just going with the winning side).

    Its somewhat utopian to believe Afro american criminals do merely attack each other, I can assure you otherwise that they attack the rest of society as well (This crime causes billions of dollars of damages to our economy); and if cannot be contained with a armed police force, what makes you believe it can be contained with an unarmed police force.

    I lived in the days of street justice and police officers in those days readily cooperated with street justice administered by the community (no questions asked), as it should be. That did keep criminals somewhat manageable, but not completely. What stopped the administration of street justice was sometimes it was abused (they beat up the wrong guy or someone who was merely just passing through); and second, the liberal MSM and district attorneys office hated it because it challenged their monopoly on criminal justice (which was nothing but a catch and release program: the police catch & courts release).

    When legitimate street justice stopped, and residents could no longer be involved in the security of their own neighborhoods, that led to the rapid deterioration of the areas, and promoted white (and working class hispanic) flight.

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    You either have a comprehension problem or you just enjoy trying to read more into what I wrote than is actually there.

    First of all, I have never excused blacks for their high crime rates, and it is a fact that blacks kill each other more often than other races.

    Secondly, cops murdering unarmed citizens is the problem. They mostly shoot their victims to death and that is why disarming them is good idea. It removes the cop's option to reach for his gun. I suggest you read Paul Roberts latest post on why cops murder people. I'm tired of explaining the same thing over and over again.
  187. @another fred

    Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers. Until these limitations are addressed, it would be premature to hypothesize how the 2-repeat allele may impact criminal activity patterns in society.
     
    And there it is, the soft velvet glove that wraps the iron fist, presented with the oh-so-reasonable demeanor.

    Yes, we need "further research", but who controls the purse strings and the data? Who controls what research is done who gets to do it?

    No, Corvinus (Crow), I don't think you do, but I believe you know it is controlled and you seem to be happy with that.

    Of what little research is done it must be done by "good scientists". But Catch 22 says that a person who starts with a hypothesis of genetic differences is by definition not a "good scientist".

    "Good scientists" know that the fastest way to become a non-funded non-person is to question the orthodoxy, to tell the master that which he does not want to hear. If you don't think so ask James Watson or Satoshi Kanazawa. Why do you think La Griffe writes under a pseudonym?

    Only fools do not know the fist that is inside the glove. Only knaves pretend it is not there.

    “Yes, we need “further research”, but who controls the purse strings and the data? Who controls what research is done who gets to do it?”

    Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe.

    ““Good scientists” know that the fastest way to become a non-funded non-person is to question the orthodoxy, to tell the master that which he does not want to hear.”

    Assuming that these “good scientists” are adhering to the scientific method and are taking precautions so as to their own prejudices are not infused in the results of their experiments. It is not even remotely reasonable to take scientific evidence at face value anymore, much less the pseudoscience so often being substituted for the results produced by genuine, if often flawed, scientists. Anytime a study is cited, there is already a shadow cast over it, in particular race and genetics.

    “If you don’t think so ask James Watson or Satoshi Kanazawa.”

    They can EASILY find financial backers for their scientific ventures. Contact your local chapter of white nationalists.

    “Why do you think La Griffe writes under a pseudonym?”

    Maybe he realizes deep down he would have to up his game considerable in the face of criticism for his methodologies and interpretation of results.

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    Perhaps you would like to offer a citation for "Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe."

    Government accounts for a significant part of US research spending. From wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_science

    Government funding for medical research amounts to approximately 36% in the U.S. The government funding proportion in certain industries is higher, and it dominates research in social science and humanities.
     
    Notice that the most biased areas have large amounts of government funding. But I suppose that is entirely non-political. /sarc

    Regarding "They can EASILY find financial backers for their scientific ventures. Contact your local chapter of white nationalists." Thanks for making apparent your disingenuousness. In the real world, how has James Watson been doing for research funding since his comments? Oh wait, he retired as a result so is not doing research anymore (AFAIK).

    Let's revisit Watson's fairly benign (except for touching a third rail of the Narrative) comments just to see if you disagree with their factuality. Do you? If so, where exactly?

    Watson created a storm of controversy when he told The Sunday Times newspaper that he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa,” adding that “[all] our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”.
     
    From https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12835-james-watson-retires-amidst-race-controversy/

    P.S. Those links above are what citations look like. Perhaps you could try including some rather than just incessantly asking others to do so.
  188. @Simon in London
    London is - that's what I'm going by.

    Wasn’t it the police shooting of a black guy, Mark Duggan, that triggered the 2011 riots? I see he fathered 6 children by age 29.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Mark_Duggan

    A middle aged white guy got beaten to death by youths in Ealing, and elsewhere at least 2 white people were stopped and stripped naked as humiliation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots#Richard_Mannington_Bowes

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  189. @joef
    You act as if a gun is a talisman that controls human actions (thats similar to what liberals believe) Its not the gun, its the personality holding the gun. Saying a gun will make a cop abuse his authority is similar to the liberal nonsense that guns cause crime. It does not.
    If you hire an officer who believes that police work is a calling, or an average joe who just needs a job, it will not be a gun that modifies his behavior (although years of urban ghetto police experience can modify anyones behavior for the worse). If you hired an aggressive egocentric as a cop he will be abusive with or without a gun (although maybe more cautious without a gun).
    Aggressive egocentrics, machiavellians, sociopaths, and narcissist persons, enjoy positions of power regardless if they have firearms available, and those type of people are not a reflection of people who work as police officers who are not like them. The gun does not make the personality, its the personality holding the gun, and the gun changes nothing except the ability to address in progress armed felony violent crimes.

    - - It does strike me odd that we always to prefer to attack the police for alleged transgressions but we always seem to give the ghetto afro american thugs a pass (probably because police families only provide million votes and afro americans and their white guilt panderers provides tens of millions of votes; the politicians and MSM are just going with the winning side).

    Its somewhat utopian to believe Afro american criminals do merely attack each other, I can assure you otherwise that they attack the rest of society as well (This crime causes billions of dollars of damages to our economy); and if cannot be contained with a armed police force, what makes you believe it can be contained with an unarmed police force.

    I lived in the days of street justice and police officers in those days readily cooperated with street justice administered by the community (no questions asked), as it should be. That did keep criminals somewhat manageable, but not completely. What stopped the administration of street justice was sometimes it was abused (they beat up the wrong guy or someone who was merely just passing through); and second, the liberal MSM and district attorneys office hated it because it challenged their monopoly on criminal justice (which was nothing but a catch and release program: the police catch & courts release).

    When legitimate street justice stopped, and residents could no longer be involved in the security of their own neighborhoods, that led to the rapid deterioration of the areas, and promoted white (and working class hispanic) flight.

    You either have a comprehension problem or you just enjoy trying to read more into what I wrote than is actually there.

    First of all, I have never excused blacks for their high crime rates, and it is a fact that blacks kill each other more often than other races.

    Secondly, cops murdering unarmed citizens is the problem. They mostly shoot their victims to death and that is why disarming them is good idea. It removes the cop’s option to reach for his gun. I suggest you read Paul Roberts latest post on why cops murder people. I’m tired of explaining the same thing over and over again.

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    I never said you excused afro american crime in my last post - - if you read carefully, I meant the MSM & politicians (i used the word "we").
    So it is not a comprehension problem but simply your premise is not supported by reality:

    a) So what you are saying is that all police involved shootings are illegitimate even when they are protecting their own lives or the life of others from a violent criminal thugs using deadly physical force against them or someone else.
    -- I guess you want to throw out the whole legal concept of Justified Use of Force that comes back as far as the English Common Law days?
    - - or maybe you are saying that once you put on a police uniform you now forfeit your life and should not be allowed to protect yourself & others from deadly physical force?

    b) If all the police shootings were bad, there would be non stop coverage by the liberal adversarial MSM.
    - - if all cops kill people as you allege, where are all the bodies? There should be about 400,000 people killed every year by this means if you are correct.

    c) Even if your belief were true that none of the police involved shootings were ever justified (i guess protecting your own life from a violent thug is never justified in your view) THE COMPARISON TO AFRO AMERICAN CAUSED HOMICIDES COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT OF POLICE INVOLVED SHOOTINGS IS LIKE COMPARING A MATCH FLAME TO AN INFERNO! Afro americans are by far a much more destructive force, yet you do not seem to care the harm that has caused your fellow citizens?

    d) It is not only black on black crime; afro american victims of crime is throughout society. Are you saying that all the other crime victims at the hands of afro americans are making it up??

    e) You still cannot logically explain how disarming the police will prevent crime from migrating from afro american areas if currently armed police cannot stop it.
    (are you going to build a wall??
    or maybe you believe afro american criminals will just stay put and not attack the rest of us out of the goodness of their hearts, after the police are disarmed).

    f) I have been reading Paul Craig Roberts columns since the 1990s (when crime was really bad) and he is very good on economic policy and knows foreign policy, but he has become totally politically correct sellout in regards to this issue (I guess he is afraid of being called the r word)
    - - like you he seems to be obsessed with proving that every cop kills and every police shooting is unjustified.

    Please face reality and stop being such an ideologue. Your opinions should be based on reality, not reality twisted to your opinions. People like you cannot seem to keep your eye on the ball where our problems really are. Instead you want all of us to give in to satisfy your grudge against the police.

  190. @woodNfish
    You either have a comprehension problem or you just enjoy trying to read more into what I wrote than is actually there.

    First of all, I have never excused blacks for their high crime rates, and it is a fact that blacks kill each other more often than other races.

    Secondly, cops murdering unarmed citizens is the problem. They mostly shoot their victims to death and that is why disarming them is good idea. It removes the cop's option to reach for his gun. I suggest you read Paul Roberts latest post on why cops murder people. I'm tired of explaining the same thing over and over again.

    I never said you excused afro american crime in my last post – – if you read carefully, I meant the MSM & politicians (i used the word “we”).
    So it is not a comprehension problem but simply your premise is not supported by reality:

    a) So what you are saying is that all police involved shootings are illegitimate even when they are protecting their own lives or the life of others from a violent criminal thugs using deadly physical force against them or someone else.
    – I guess you want to throw out the whole legal concept of Justified Use of Force that comes back as far as the English Common Law days?
    - – or maybe you are saying that once you put on a police uniform you now forfeit your life and should not be allowed to protect yourself & others from deadly physical force?

    b) If all the police shootings were bad, there would be non stop coverage by the liberal adversarial MSM.
    - – if all cops kill people as you allege, where are all the bodies? There should be about 400,000 people killed every year by this means if you are correct.

    c) Even if your belief were true that none of the police involved shootings were ever justified (i guess protecting your own life from a violent thug is never justified in your view) THE COMPARISON TO AFRO AMERICAN CAUSED HOMICIDES COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT OF POLICE INVOLVED SHOOTINGS IS LIKE COMPARING A MATCH FLAME TO AN INFERNO! Afro americans are by far a much more destructive force, yet you do not seem to care the harm that has caused your fellow citizens?

    d) It is not only black on black crime; afro american victims of crime is throughout society. Are you saying that all the other crime victims at the hands of afro americans are making it up??

    e) You still cannot logically explain how disarming the police will prevent crime from migrating from afro american areas if currently armed police cannot stop it.
    (are you going to build a wall??
    or maybe you believe afro american criminals will just stay put and not attack the rest of us out of the goodness of their hearts, after the police are disarmed).

    f) I have been reading Paul Craig Roberts columns since the 1990s (when crime was really bad) and he is very good on economic policy and knows foreign policy, but he has become totally politically correct sellout in regards to this issue (I guess he is afraid of being called the r word)
    - – like you he seems to be obsessed with proving that every cop kills and every police shooting is unjustified.

    Please face reality and stop being such an ideologue. Your opinions should be based on reality, not reality twisted to your opinions. People like you cannot seem to keep your eye on the ball where our problems really are. Instead you want all of us to give in to satisfy your grudge against the police.

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    I find it disturbing that you think the government should be able to execute anyone they want without charges, a trial or a defense. And you obviously don't understand the word "unarmed" because you are a police apologist.
  191. @joef
    I never said you excused afro american crime in my last post - - if you read carefully, I meant the MSM & politicians (i used the word "we").
    So it is not a comprehension problem but simply your premise is not supported by reality:

    a) So what you are saying is that all police involved shootings are illegitimate even when they are protecting their own lives or the life of others from a violent criminal thugs using deadly physical force against them or someone else.
    -- I guess you want to throw out the whole legal concept of Justified Use of Force that comes back as far as the English Common Law days?
    - - or maybe you are saying that once you put on a police uniform you now forfeit your life and should not be allowed to protect yourself & others from deadly physical force?

    b) If all the police shootings were bad, there would be non stop coverage by the liberal adversarial MSM.
    - - if all cops kill people as you allege, where are all the bodies? There should be about 400,000 people killed every year by this means if you are correct.

    c) Even if your belief were true that none of the police involved shootings were ever justified (i guess protecting your own life from a violent thug is never justified in your view) THE COMPARISON TO AFRO AMERICAN CAUSED HOMICIDES COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT OF POLICE INVOLVED SHOOTINGS IS LIKE COMPARING A MATCH FLAME TO AN INFERNO! Afro americans are by far a much more destructive force, yet you do not seem to care the harm that has caused your fellow citizens?

    d) It is not only black on black crime; afro american victims of crime is throughout society. Are you saying that all the other crime victims at the hands of afro americans are making it up??

    e) You still cannot logically explain how disarming the police will prevent crime from migrating from afro american areas if currently armed police cannot stop it.
    (are you going to build a wall??
    or maybe you believe afro american criminals will just stay put and not attack the rest of us out of the goodness of their hearts, after the police are disarmed).

    f) I have been reading Paul Craig Roberts columns since the 1990s (when crime was really bad) and he is very good on economic policy and knows foreign policy, but he has become totally politically correct sellout in regards to this issue (I guess he is afraid of being called the r word)
    - - like you he seems to be obsessed with proving that every cop kills and every police shooting is unjustified.

    Please face reality and stop being such an ideologue. Your opinions should be based on reality, not reality twisted to your opinions. People like you cannot seem to keep your eye on the ball where our problems really are. Instead you want all of us to give in to satisfy your grudge against the police.

    I find it disturbing that you think the government should be able to execute anyone they want without charges, a trial or a defense. And you obviously don’t understand the word “unarmed” because you are a police apologist.

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    No I measure every incident on its own merits, I do not universally condemn (or support) all police involved shootings, like you do, without any examination whats so ever.
    You are a classic ideologue, either go along with your statements, even if they completely contradict reality, or you start with ad hominem attacks.

    I have acquaintances from Nigeria, Romania, former East Germany, and Russia who laugh at your position that police in this nation are what you say they are, as compared to their nation. They all have similar response: "you don't know what real oppression is", and I agree.

    You are just a guy who is obsessed with being against the police, and you would probably hate them even if they saved your life one day. So obviously there is no way to reason with you, its either all or nothing: no outliers/no exceptions: all cops must pay to satisfy your antipolice bloodlust.

    The rest of us are not beholden to your fantasies when there is much bigger problems in this nation such as economic decline and racial balkanization (which your biased antipolice rhetoric is helping to promote)

    , @joef
    One final point if you make extraordinary claims you need extraordinary evidence to confirm such claims. Your belief in them alone does not make it true. Also your solutions seem like they rely on a sort of 'magic' to work.

    The claims I have forwarded is backed up by abundant evidence and available data from legitimate sources (and confirmed by a vast amount of life experience). Even if you research it anecdotally you will find that on news reports on crimes, the majority of descriptions of the suspects are of afro americans. Matter of fact it is so overwhelmingly afro american that the lib MSM no longer wants to report the racial description of criminal perpetrators.

    Are there outliers: of course there are. No group is exclusively bad or good in this world. There are legit working poor African Americans stuck living in the ghetto that they themselves do not like.
    However here is the rub, many of them (but not all) enable and publicly provide emotional support for the predatory thugs in their communities; and that is some of the cause of our divisions.

    Now I know that the anarcho capitalist Lew Rockwell types has gone the cowardly route and purged contributors who may not be politically correct, because they do not provide the party line about race relations. This act of cowardliness ruined libertarianism & is why I no longer identify myself as a paleo libertarian. Lew Rockwell types attacks the police because its a media safe target. He is more interested in his exaggerated claims about the police so he can cozy up with the left, than standing by the truth, and standing by his fellow citizens who were victims of violent crimes mostly at the hands of afro americans.
    Instead they focus on the relatively small amount of occurrences of police abuse, and avoid and ignore the very large problem of afro american crime, entitlements, disaffection and disorder. That problem was not made up, it exists. But the Rockwell crowd has become much like the utopian leftist by holding on to their make believe fantasies, and ignore reality if it gets in the way.

  192. @woodNfish
    I find it disturbing that you think the government should be able to execute anyone they want without charges, a trial or a defense. And you obviously don't understand the word "unarmed" because you are a police apologist.

    No I measure every incident on its own merits, I do not universally condemn (or support) all police involved shootings, like you do, without any examination whats so ever.
    You are a classic ideologue, either go along with your statements, even if they completely contradict reality, or you start with ad hominem attacks.

    I have acquaintances from Nigeria, Romania, former East Germany, and Russia who laugh at your position that police in this nation are what you say they are, as compared to their nation. They all have similar response: “you don’t know what real oppression is”, and I agree.

    You are just a guy who is obsessed with being against the police, and you would probably hate them even if they saved your life one day. So obviously there is no way to reason with you, its either all or nothing: no outliers/no exceptions: all cops must pay to satisfy your antipolice bloodlust.

    The rest of us are not beholden to your fantasies when there is much bigger problems in this nation such as economic decline and racial balkanization (which your biased antipolice rhetoric is helping to promote)

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  193. @woodNfish
    I find it disturbing that you think the government should be able to execute anyone they want without charges, a trial or a defense. And you obviously don't understand the word "unarmed" because you are a police apologist.

    One final point if you make extraordinary claims you need extraordinary evidence to confirm such claims. Your belief in them alone does not make it true. Also your solutions seem like they rely on a sort of ‘magic’ to work.

    The claims I have forwarded is backed up by abundant evidence and available data from legitimate sources (and confirmed by a vast amount of life experience). Even if you research it anecdotally you will find that on news reports on crimes, the majority of descriptions of the suspects are of afro americans. Matter of fact it is so overwhelmingly afro american that the lib MSM no longer wants to report the racial description of criminal perpetrators.

    Are there outliers: of course there are. No group is exclusively bad or good in this world. There are legit working poor African Americans stuck living in the ghetto that they themselves do not like.
    However here is the rub, many of them (but not all) enable and publicly provide emotional support for the predatory thugs in their communities; and that is some of the cause of our divisions.

    Now I know that the anarcho capitalist Lew Rockwell types has gone the cowardly route and purged contributors who may not be politically correct, because they do not provide the party line about race relations. This act of cowardliness ruined libertarianism & is why I no longer identify myself as a paleo libertarian. Lew Rockwell types attacks the police because its a media safe target. He is more interested in his exaggerated claims about the police so he can cozy up with the left, than standing by the truth, and standing by his fellow citizens who were victims of violent crimes mostly at the hands of afro americans.
    Instead they focus on the relatively small amount of occurrences of police abuse, and avoid and ignore the very large problem of afro american crime, entitlements, disaffection and disorder. That problem was not made up, it exists. But the Rockwell crowd has become much like the utopian leftist by holding on to their make believe fantasies, and ignore reality if it gets in the way.

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  194. @Corvinus
    "Yes, we need “further research”, but who controls the purse strings and the data? Who controls what research is done who gets to do it?"

    Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe.

    "“Good scientists” know that the fastest way to become a non-funded non-person is to question the orthodoxy, to tell the master that which he does not want to hear."

    Assuming that these "good scientists" are adhering to the scientific method and are taking precautions so as to their own prejudices are not infused in the results of their experiments. It is not even remotely reasonable to take scientific evidence at face value anymore, much less the pseudoscience so often being substituted for the results produced by genuine, if often flawed, scientists. Anytime a study is cited, there is already a shadow cast over it, in particular race and genetics.

    "If you don’t think so ask James Watson or Satoshi Kanazawa."

    They can EASILY find financial backers for their scientific ventures. Contact your local chapter of white nationalists.

    "Why do you think La Griffe writes under a pseudonym?"

    Maybe he realizes deep down he would have to up his game considerable in the face of criticism for his methodologies and interpretation of results.

    Perhaps you would like to offer a citation for “Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe.”

    Government accounts for a significant part of US research spending. From wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_science

    Government funding for medical research amounts to approximately 36% in the U.S. The government funding proportion in certain industries is higher, and it dominates research in social science and humanities.

    Notice that the most biased areas have large amounts of government funding. But I suppose that is entirely non-political. /sarc

    Regarding “They can EASILY find financial backers for their scientific ventures. Contact your local chapter of white nationalists.” Thanks for making apparent your disingenuousness. In the real world, how has James Watson been doing for research funding since his comments? Oh wait, he retired as a result so is not doing research anymore (AFAIK).

    Let’s revisit Watson’s fairly benign (except for touching a third rail of the Narrative) comments just to see if you disagree with their factuality. Do you? If so, where exactly?

    Watson created a storm of controversy when he told The Sunday Times newspaper that he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa,” adding that “[all] our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”.

    From https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12835-james-watson-retires-amidst-race-controversy/

    P.S. Those links above are what citations look like. Perhaps you could try including some rather than just incessantly asking others to do so.

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    "Government funding for medical research amounts to approximately 36% in the U.S."

    Which means two-thirds comes from non-governmental agencies.

    Next time, offer the ENTIRE context.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_science

    "Most research funding comes from two major sources, corporations (through research and development departments) and government (primarily carried out through universities and specialized government agencies; often known as research councils). Some small amounts of scientific research are carried out (or funded) by charitable foundations, especially in relation to developing cures for diseases such as cancer, malaria and AIDS.

    According to OECD, around two-thirds of research and development in scientific and technical fields is carried out by industries, and 20% and 10% respectively by universities and government."

    "Those links above are what citations look like."

    Which I provide when required. And thanks for linking to a story nine years ago.

    "In the real world, how has James Watson been doing for research funding since his comments? "

    He was 79 when he retired, and he also backtracked from the comments that he made. Regardless, he should apply to the Pioneer Fund.
  195. @res
    Perhaps you would like to offer a citation for "Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe."

    Government accounts for a significant part of US research spending. From wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_science

    Government funding for medical research amounts to approximately 36% in the U.S. The government funding proportion in certain industries is higher, and it dominates research in social science and humanities.
     
    Notice that the most biased areas have large amounts of government funding. But I suppose that is entirely non-political. /sarc

    Regarding "They can EASILY find financial backers for their scientific ventures. Contact your local chapter of white nationalists." Thanks for making apparent your disingenuousness. In the real world, how has James Watson been doing for research funding since his comments? Oh wait, he retired as a result so is not doing research anymore (AFAIK).

    Let's revisit Watson's fairly benign (except for touching a third rail of the Narrative) comments just to see if you disagree with their factuality. Do you? If so, where exactly?

    Watson created a storm of controversy when he told The Sunday Times newspaper that he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa,” adding that “[all] our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”.
     
    From https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12835-james-watson-retires-amidst-race-controversy/

    P.S. Those links above are what citations look like. Perhaps you could try including some rather than just incessantly asking others to do so.

    “Government funding for medical research amounts to approximately 36% in the U.S.”

    Which means two-thirds comes from non-governmental agencies.

    Next time, offer the ENTIRE context.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_science

    “Most research funding comes from two major sources, corporations (through research and development departments) and government (primarily carried out through universities and specialized government agencies; often known as research councils). Some small amounts of scientific research are carried out (or funded) by charitable foundations, especially in relation to developing cures for diseases such as cancer, malaria and AIDS.

    According to OECD, around two-thirds of research and development in scientific and technical fields is carried out by industries, and 20% and 10% respectively by universities and government.”

    “Those links above are what citations look like.”

    Which I provide when required. And thanks for linking to a story nine years ago.

    “In the real world, how has James Watson been doing for research funding since his comments? ”

    He was 79 when he retired, and he also backtracked from the comments that he made. Regardless, he should apply to the Pioneer Fund.

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    “Government funding for medical research amounts to approximately 36% in the U.S.”

    Which means two-thirds comes from non-governmental agencies.

    Next time, offer the ENTIRE context.
     

    I did. The part you quoted appears in my blockquote above. But given that we are discussing bias, I think emphasizing the most biased research areas is reasonable (especially given their influence on the Narrative). So here we go again: "government ... dominates research in social science and humanities"

    Ironic you criticize me for omitting context when you equate "corporations and government" in your citation to “Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe” in your earlier post. I'm curious, do you think various political stripes are equally represented in research funding? I get that in your arguments a single example (e.g. the Pioneer Fund) validates your position while your opponents' arguments are invalidated by a single counterexample, but perhaps you might try looking at shades of gray (or relative proportions of things in society) occasionally.


    Which I provide when required. And thanks for linking to a story nine years ago.
     
    When discussing an event from nine years ago a link to a story from when it happened is appropriate. Are you suggesting otherwise? If you are objecting to my use of Watson as an example--I was replying to a thread mentioning him. If you provide links when required why in your original post did you not include one for “Individual benefactors and corporations, regardless of political stripe” which was a half truth at best?

    Fascinating that you consider Watson backtracking from accurate comments in an effort to salvage his reputation as a positive. Do you enjoy living in 1984?

    P.S. Thanks for addressing my questions. Any time I want to understand what the MSM means by "have a conversation" I just have a "conversation" with you.

    P.P.S. Sincere thanks to another fred for his eloquent "Only fools do not know the fist that is inside the glove. Only knaves pretend it is not there."