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What to Do with Latinos?
Get Used to Them

Following Mr. Trump’s kaleidosopically shifting policies isn’t easy. He was going to declare China a currency manipulator on day one, but didn’t, going to impose a forty-five percent tariff on Chinese goods but apparently won’t, was going to shift the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem but isn’t, going to tear up the Iran treaty but hasn’t, going to end the wars but isn’t, and going to rid the country of illegal aliens within two years. Now it seems he has backed off this too, and there is in the air the merest whiff of…amnesty?

Oh well. Mass deportation was a loony idea to begin with. Consider:

For years there have been said to be 11 million illegals, a number having a suspicious stability. Foes of immigration have put it at thirteen or fourteen. Call it at least 12 million. To deport them in two years, Trump would have to deport 500,000 a month. For twenty-four months. To deport a tenth as many, he would need to expel 50,000 a month.

Is the man crazy? Does he just shoot from the lip on crucial policies without thinking? Can’t do arithmetic? Or lies in the normal manner of politicians?

His promised expulsion would rank among history’s most awful humanitarian disasters. Mexico could not possibly absorb such a huge tsunami of returnees. They would have nowhere to stay, nothing to eat, no jobs.

The embittered anti-immigration people, readers of sites like VDare, would not care. Screw the vile brown scum, rapists and welfare parasites, murderers, drug peddlers, low-IQ nasty unevolved human flatworms. The bastards came illegally, so to hell with them. But, I think, not enough of the country will buy it. Stopping the influx will probably fly. The Wall? Maybe, but I wouldn’t bet on it. We seem to hear less about it. Criminals? Most would favor deporting them.

But twelve million? Or anything resembling it? For many reasons, both charitable and self-interested, too many groups aren’t up for mass arrests and deportations. Not businessmen, who want the cheap labor, nor the Democratic Party that wants the votes, nor academia, nor the media, nor sanctuary cities, nor many of the young, nor liberals. Nor…California.

The question is not whether it was a good idea to encourage illegals to come. It wasn’t. The question is not even whether it would be good for the country to run them out. Doing it would be too ugly to gain support from the public. Too many illegals have been in the country for five, ten, fifteen years, speak English, have employers who value them, have children who are citizens and sometimes do not speak Spanish.

The Hispanic genii is out of the bottle. It is a done deal. Trump can’t do much about it. Neither can anyone else. Deporting a few hundred thousand of 56 million would not make a dent. A million would constitute less than two percent of the Latino population.

In any event, running out the illegals would leave 44 million legal Latinos. Or, increasingly, sort of Latinos. Is Rosa Gutierrez, nineteen, born and raised in California, whose English she speaks flawlessly–a Latina? Quite possibly she has never been to Mexico. She thinks that she is an American. Why isn’t she?

Worse, Rosa is pretty and feminine. If Pew is to be believed, the intermarriage rate is at 26 percent. This horrifies white nationalists, gratifies assimilationists, but neither horror nor gratification is going to change things. Will Rosa’s children, had in conjunction with her husband Robert Williams, be Latinos? They won’t think so. And you cannot deport American citizens.

Much of the hostility, though expressed in practical terms of lost jobs and so on, is in fact racial, and therefor incurable. Many of the white nationalists exhibit an almost effeminate squeamishness at the thought of their precious bodily essences being polluted by oozing dark sludge. Well, as you will. There are reasons why this view isn’t going to prevail. See below.

Oozing dark sludge. Young Anglo men may not see her exactly that way. Credit: Fred On Everything.

Oozing dark sludge. Young Anglo men may not see her exactly that way. Credit: Fred On Everything.

Since huge numbers of Latinos are in the country, and are not going to leave, the intelligent question–yes, I know this is a political column, but we can try a little eccentricity here–is: Can they be part of America? Well, let’s see.

They are approximately Christian, though like all Christians they don’t always remember the parts about adultery and fornication. They don’t do terrorism. Brown Lives Matter doesn’t burn malls and loot shoe stores, in part because it doesn’t exist. They don’t genitally mutilate their daughters, forbid them schooling, or make them wear funny black bags. They do not yell “Pancho-hu akbar” and stab people. An estimated million Americans including your scribe live amicably in Mexico. If it were such a horrible experience, you might expect us to notice. Wherever I have been in the US–LA, San Fran, New York, San Antonio, Houston, Laredo, Chicago, Washington–they have seemed integrated, working in restaurants, doctor’s offices, what have you, and both learning English and, often, forgetting Spanish.

There are down sides. While very few Mexicans are involved in the drug trade, a high proportion of those involved in the drug trade are Mexicans. Another is that if government can turn them into welfare dependents, it will.

What the white nationalists can do, perhaps, is to alienate white from brown and split the country into three mutually hostile groups, white, black and Latino. The constant disparagement of Latinos by Trump and the anti-immigrant enthusiasts appears aimed at just that. Strictly speaking, Trump might respond that he is not against Latin Americans but only against criminals and illegals, but it certain sounds as though he hates Mexicans. The racialist sites post endless stories, not infrequently dishonest, about Latino stupidity, crime, shiftlessness, and vile behavior. Mexicans, rightly or wrongly, conclude that they are hated. This does not encourage assimilation–assimilation being of course the last thing that white nationalists want. To endorse assimilation would be to grant legitimacy to the assimilees.

This attitude will prove unfortunate, since assimilation is the only hope of not having the United States become an ethnic disaster.

ORDER IT NOW

White nationalists tend to believe, and obviously hope, that Latin Americans are genetically criminal and incapable of of fitting into nations of the First World. This allows a comforting faith that mixing should be prevented at any cost. Yet those who have traveled in the world will have seen that economics, not genetics, is primary in behavior. In particular, as people move into the middle class, crime and fertility decline sharply and interest in education rises.

Just so, here. The Mexican middle class is no more violent than anyone else’s. (From which we derive genetically fascinating conclusions. Apparently the presence of a refrigerator and indoor plumbing alter the genetic makeup of those near them. Weird Kelvinator rays, one supposes.) Another observation readily made around the planet is that middle classes usually get along well with each other. All of this would suggest that encouraging immigrants to move into the middle class might be a Real Good Idea.

Unfortunately an assimilated Mexican middle class would intermarry vigorously with whites, thus polluting our precious bodily essences. Many of the anti-immigrants simply do not want anything to do with any Mexican ever under any circumstances. Thus they have no policy other than getting rid of people most of whom cannot be gotten rid of.

In particular they furiously oppose amnesty for illegals. This would be a rational position if there were a possibility that Mr. Trump could chase them out of the country–which he can’t do in significant numbers, which would mean many millions. At that point keeping them illegal amounts to preventing their economic rise and creating another permanent underclass.

Gosh, what a swell idea.

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  1. Mestizos have a home. It is NOT in North America.

    If conditions in North America become hostile enough, they will go home. For me, this IS my home. If I’m not here (USA), I’m on vacation somewhere. It’s really that simple.

    I am far from alone in being upset that when I visit a local store it now looks like I was magically transported to Quintana Roo or somewhere equally “south.” My local WalMart looks no less Mayan than did a visit to Sam Walton’s big box in Downtown Cancun 15 years ago.

    An invasion without guns is still defined by the numbers (and concentration) of outsiders. The USA has been invaded and large parts of it are now Occupied Lands.

    Fred can take his sanctimony and ram it where the sigmoidoscopes don’t shine. They have to go home, we can cook our own restaurant meals, pick our own crops and mow our own lawns.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Mestizos have a home. It is NOT in North America."

    Mestizos reside in Mexico. Last time I checked, that nation is part of North America.

    "If conditions in North America become hostile enough, they will go home. For me, this IS my home. If I’m not here (USA), I’m on vacation somewhere. It’s really that simple."

    America is the home to a wide range of races and ethnic groups. Always has been, always will be.

    "An invasion without guns is still defined by the numbers (and concentration) of outsiders. The USA has been invaded and large parts of it are now Occupied Lands."

    That's a False News Story.
    , @uslabor
    "Mestizos have a home. It is NOT in North America."

    Just where, then, is the Mestizo's home, Mexico?

    For your education, and this is coming from a Mestizo, better educated, it seems, than yourself:

    Mexico Is part of North America!

    And we ain't leaving, been here in Colorado for 4 generations, been here before it was a territory of the United States.

    We ain't leaving!
    , @Ned Ludlam
    In fact, Americans won't and can't actually do much of anything. A population of Lipitor soaked lard asses wheezing around on puffers and scooters is Not Able To Mow The Lawn. Any more. Addicted to the worst junk food, crap medicine, toxic environment, shot through with debt and poor productivity. The U.S. military has 100,000 'undeployables' sitting on their bums. None of these in Russia's military.

    A mass deportation would precipitate just the scale of crisis that would finally crash the whole rotten system. So, maybe something good would come of this.
    , @timamac
    I definitely agree! Too many and too short of time. Stay down in Mexico Fred or wherever you are. I don't want my country turning into a banana republic.
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  2. I heard more practicality than sanctimony (except on your part). Considering that the US has invaded and occupies so much of the world, both militarily and economically, via economic hitmen (John Perkins), and ” . . . high-class muscle [men] for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers . . . ” (Smedley Butler, USMC), I see no problem with at least allowing the long-established, trouble-free illegals to stay and be granted citizenship. The cucarachas should be returned – in a box, if they’ve been bad enough to deserve it. Then, we turn down the dial on the immigration spigot. We could also end the federales’ war on drugs. There’s more, but I think Fred has nailed your real motivation. Hate away, dc.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    So no doubt the American Indians were xenophobic & racist for resisting downtrodden European immigrants.

    And what about the rights of the Indigenous Peoples of Europe to preserve, protect their culture from the invasion of low IQ 3rd worlders?

    If illegals make such 'valuable contributions', then why do their countries refuse to take them back?

    A poll of ten European nations with over 10,000 respondents finds overwhelming support for a Muslim immigration ban within the EU. In total 55% agree Muslim immigration should be stopped, only 20% disagree.
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/08/shock-poll-collapses-media-narrative-overwhelming-eu-support-for-a-muslim-ban/

  3. The alt-right won’t like this, but Fred is right. There is no politically plausible way to deport all the illegals, let alone legal Latinos and other nonwhites, unless you’re willing to go full fascist and shed blood. Even then you’d need overwhelming support from the 65% of whites in America, many of whom are leftists and mentally unfit.

    The only path for white nationalists is some kind of separatism, effectively ending the USA as you know it. But that’s unlikely too. Homogenizing a country that’s already this diverse without splitting into smaller states would be a first in history. The closest thing would be the departure of large Greek minorities from Turkey, or whites from Zimbabwe. But while they made up a large percentage of the host population, they did not number in the tens of millions. Raw numbers do make a difference when it comes to ethnic nationalism, because at a critical mass people will feel entitled to a piece of land.

    If you have practical means of homogenizing a nation, I’d like to hear it for future reference.

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    • Replies: @Sunbeam
    "The only path for white nationalists is some kind of separatism, effectively ending the USA as you know it. But that’s unlikely too."

    Why is it unlikely? Ask yourself exactly who is loyal to the concept of a United States?

    If the alt-right crowd as you put it isn't, exactly who is? How many tears would be shed, or celebratory drinks poured here if California actually did secede?

    Trust me (thought I think you already know), most of the readers of this site would be delighted.

    And the whole thing staying together? I don't think that will work either. Personally I've thought for a while whites should embrace Chinese tactics towards things like cheating on tests, and lying or doing whatever to get maximum benefits from any possible government program. All while practicing massive tax evasion. And the nepotism... oh god, the nepotism. And with as much shame as - as well any other group basically.

    Oh yeah, and I'd try to emulate what was done during Vietnam with people who didn't want to serve in the military. The military is for benefits, pay, job training, things like that. The second it involves the slightest bit of inconvenience or danger, someone can scoot and find a helpful network of people committed to doing what it takes to aid them.

    You can fight and die for whatever. We're out.

    If absolutely everyone is looking out for number one, or the interests of their subgroup, with absolutely no loyalty or commitment to a common good or goal...

    Well how's that going to work? Pretty common situation now and in history. But new here. Don't think it will be stable.

    , @Diversity Heretic
    You can turn a heterogeneous nation into a homogeneous one with lots and lots and lots of time. Britannia became England; Gaul became France. I don't know of any other way.

    Separation can happen suddenly and unexpectedly. How many people anticipated the breakup of the USSR? (I certainly didn't.) I wonder whether the model for the U.S. will be the partition of British India into India and Pakistan.
    , @pyrrhus
    Wrong. Simply take away welfare, free medical care, and jobs, and most would self deport. But Ike deported 1 1/2 million Mexicans in 4 months, back in the 1950s, so it can't be that tough...
    , @dfordoom

    The alt-right won’t like this, but Fred is right
     
    The alt-right won’t accept this reality because the alt-right is just as irrational as the SJWs. The alt-righters, like liberals, inhabit a fantasy world (a fantasy world populated by cartoon frogs).
    , @timamac
    No need to physically enforce and scare tactics from the likes of you. Simply, enforce the damn laws! Punish employers who hire them(e-verify), no public assistance, tax them sending money back "hone", and speak effing English!
  4. Citizens may be deported Fred if they are under 18 and deported “home” with parent(s). They may return at 18 and, at 21, petition for their parent(s) to come here.

    The other legal issue is whether anchor babies are citizens. I know the State Dept. terms them as such but the courts have not weighed in on that point. If parents are legal residents, their child is a citizen. That was decided long ago but the anchor baby issue has not. I think it would likely be decided affirmatively but that’s not the point.

    Then too, it is quite possible to deport millions if you make employment dependent on legality and if you prosecute those who stole identities for work or otherwise committed fraud. And, of course, illegal entry is a crime per se and a deportable offense.

    It is irrelevant why a country may decide in such fashion. Maybe not to you but the country decides, not Fred, the guy who abandoned the country for cheap living and whatever else. He has no skin in that game anymore having given it away for personal gain and/or pleasure.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Jim:

    Courts have indeed weighed in on this issues. I quote below from a SCOTUS landmark case in immigration law, the Wong Kim Ark 1898 decision.

    Hon. Horace Gray, Supreme Court Justice for the majority in this decision, wrote a concise statement of the question asked in this case.
    “[W]hether a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.”

    Got? Children of immigrants are only US Citizens if the immigrants are here legally. It's obvious that knucklehead judges have not paid attention or have ignored precedent, but WKA is indeed the correct precedent for this situation.
  5. This about-face (if genuine) is a good sign – the only reasonable solution to the illegal immigrants problem seems to be mass amnesty combined with a tightening of the borders.

    Still won’t be an easy solution to implement. But at least it would be a genuine goal to strive for.

    The “wall” alone is not enough, can’t have 10+ mil illegals in the country, and can’t deport a significant proportion of them.

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    • Replies: @bluedog
    The solution of course is very simple while others make it the most difficult in the land simply fine every employer $20,000 dollars that employee's an illegal,Ike did that back when he was president only the fine was $10,000 but what the hell the buck don't have the bang it had back then but it solved the problem..
    , @MarkinLA
    This about-face (if genuine) is a good sign – the only reasonable solution to the illegal immigrants problem seems to be mass amnesty combined with a tightening of the borders.

    That was already tried. Oh THIS time the border will be tightened.
  6. “His promised expulsion would rank among history’s most awful humanitarian disasters. Mexico could not possibly absorb such a huge tsunami of returnees. They would have nowhere to stay, nothing to eat, no jobs.”

    I don’t get this. Fred is incessantly telling us how modern and up-to-date Mexico is, yet sending her own people back condemns them to homelessness, starvation, and unemployment. I am confused.

    Look, these people are not refugees fleeing war or being otherwise displaced. They are here because they want more and better stuff than they think they can get back home. I get it, acquisitiveness is Human Nature 101. Somehow when it’s practiced by foreigners it’s praiseworthy, but when it’s practiced by middle class Americans who don’t want to have to compete with foreigners for their jobs or deal with their neighborhood schools being overrun, it’s called “greed.”

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    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @TG
    Indeed. If (for example) Mexicans find it intolerable to live in a miserably poor overpopulated nation full of Mexicans, how can we condemn Americans for having the same view?

    And what about Mexico's incredibly brutal, xenophobic and OFFICIALLY racist immigration policy? Why no mention of that?

    If more people are always better, surely Mexico would only benefit by having all their nationals living illegally in the United States returned? Indeed, let's help Mexico even more by dumping several hundred million refugees from even poorer countries, and stopping them from expelling immigrants from Guatemala etc. Of course, Mexicans would reject that proposal. Because deep down, everyone knows that post a certain point "the more the merrier" is a lie.
    , @hyperbola
    Actually, quite a few of them ARE fleeing the aftermath of wars that "our" ZionCons instigated in Central America.

    Good Christ, Bad Christ
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/09/09/good-christ-bad-christ/

    How Neocons Destabilized Europe
    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/07/how-neocons-destabilized-europe/
    ... When I first encountered the neocons in the 1980s, they had been given Central America to play with. President Ronald Reagan had credentialed many of them, bringing into the U.S. government neocon luminaries such as Elliott Abrams and Robert Kagan. But Reagan mostly kept them out of the big-power realms: the Mideast and Europe.

    Those strategic areas went to the “adults,” people like James Baker, George Shultz, Philip Habib and Brent Scowcroft. The poor Central Americans, as they tried to shed generations of repression and backwardness imposed by brutal right-wing oligarchies, faced U.S. neocon ideologues who unleashed death squads and even genocide against peasants, students and workers.

    The result not surprisingly was a flood of refugees, especially from El Salvador and Guatemala, northward to the United States. The neocon “success” in the 1980s, crushing progressive social movements and reinforcing the oligarchic controls, left most countries of Central America in the grip of corrupt regimes and crime syndicates, periodically driving more waves of what Reagan called “feet people” through Mexico to the southern U.S. border....
    _________________________________

    And, of course, the same ZionCons (and their lackeys) continue abusing Central American countries.

    Hillary Lost My Vote in Honduras
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/02/hillary-lost-my-vote-in-honduras/

    The Jewish families that run Honduras
    https://dagobertobellucci.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/the-jewish-families-that-run-honduras/

    THE ISRAELI CONNECTION TO THE HONDURAN COUP
    https://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/the-israeli-connection-to-the-honduran-coup/

    Hillary Clinton is lying about the criminal U.S.-backed coup in Honduras.
    http://www.salon.com/2016/04/15/hillary_clinton_is_lying_about_the_criminal_u_s_backed_coup_in_honduras_it_should_be_as_scandalous_as_libya/

    Before Her Murder, Berta Cáceres Singled Out Hillary Clinton for Criticism
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  7. You nailed it dead center with your first paragraph, Federico…

    Following Mr. Trump’s kaleidosopically shifting policies isn’t easy. He was going to declare China a currency manipulator on day one, but didn’t, going to impose a forty-five percent tariff on Chinese goods but apparently won’t, was going to shift the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem but isn’t, going to tear up the Iran treaty but hasn’t, going to end the wars but isn’t, and going to rid the country of illegal aliens within two years. Now it seems he has backed off this too, and there is in the air the merest whiff of…amnesty?

    Then, as you tend to do, you @#$%^& it all up with the following ones…

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  8. “What to do with the latinos” send em to Fred. He has a large casa with which to accommodate his returning familia.

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    He also has a very different concept of beauty than we do if he presents the women in the photo above as someone attractive to white men.
  9. 1. What should we do with “Latinos?” I propose that we do what we did before about 1970, and eliminate the term entirely. We should split them up into white Americans on the one hand, and Mexican (and other) nationals on the other.

    2. You miss the point about deporting illegals. The point is not so much to get rid of the (maybe) 11 million who are already here. The point is to act as a deterrent so that we don’t soon get 100 million, and 200 million, etc. If foreign nationals get the idea that once they get over the border they are home free, there will be no stopping them. That’s why things are spinning out of control. But if foreign nationals think that coming here illegally carries high risks, that they would have to live with a constant fear of deportation, then others will be mostly dissuaded. That’s why before about 1970 illegal immigration into the United States was demographically and economically trivial, even without a border wall.

    3. Assimilation is not about learning English, or wearing blue jeans, or believing in constitutional democracy. Assimilation is about loyalty. A US citizen of Mexican ancestry who puts the well-being of people living in Mexico over that of people living in Chicago, has not assimilated no matter how flawless their English. A US citizen of Mexican ancestry who has fond feeling for his/her ancestors in the home country, but whose priorities are this nation and the people who live in it, is a fellow American, even if they speak with an accent.

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    • Agree: Wade
    • Replies: @Wade
    Well, I suppose Fred was addressing the "White Nationalists" of which I am not one. However, Fred does miss another point:

    Oh well. Mass deportation was a loony idea to begin with. Consider:

    For years there have been said to be 11 million illegals, a number having a suspicious stability. Foes of immigration have put it at thirteen or fourteen. Call it at least 12 million. To deport them in two years, Trump would have to deport 500,000 a month. For twenty-four months. To deport a tenth as many, he would need to expel 50,000 a month.
     

    Under Operation Wetback the majority of Mexicans weren't forcibly deported but voluntarily did so apparently after they, and everyone else, realized that when it comes to border enforcement, America means business.

    Also, Trump is a negotiator. As long as a he can secure a wall, secure better cooperation out of Mexico, deport all of the criminals and those who already have deportation orders (which he is currently doing), we will largely have gotten control over the situation. Trump was never a white nationalist, neither are most of the authors and commenters on Unz.com. If he wants to negotiate some kind of deal with those illegals who remain, I'm all for allowing them to come out of the shadows, sit before a judge, and have them pay some kind of steep penalty (as a one-time offering by the US, not to be continued indefinitely). If they can afford to pay this and go through the official visa process then they can stay legitimately. Otherwise they are deported.

    The US will have dealt with the problem humanely. By punishing lawbreakers the US will command respect and loyalty from it's residents.

  10. What a surprise…yet another article from Fred Reed cucking for spics.

    You’re wrong in thinking we don’t care about causing a humanitarian crisis in Mexico.

    For us that’s a feature, not a bug.

    We hope that Mexico is ruined and that Mexicans suffer. This is righteous punishment for their presumption in assuming they have a right to colonize our country.

    You’d no doubt protest that it was our leaders who invited them here…and we’d be the first to join you in ordering our former leaders marched off the gang plank.

    But unlike you we didn’t marry Mexicans so we’re not inclined to cuck for them.

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    • Replies: @rw95
    Why do I get the suspicious feeling that you have zero white children?

    Let me guess, Asians are honorary Aryans, right?

    Paging John Derbyshire...
    , @Wade
    This is ridiculous. You want a humanitarian crises in Mexico? Look, when you are poor, down and out, breaking a silly little boarder rule to get a better job is like driving over the speed limit. From our perspective the boarder is not silly, and neither are speed limits, and so we should deport these SOB's and enforce other deterrents to crossing illegally.

    However, for them it's just a rational calculation. What we should want is to renegotiate NAFTA and push corrupt Mexico to improve its wages and working conditions for it's own people so they have more incentive to stay there.

    We don't want for Mexicans in Mexico to suffer. That's ludicrous.
  11. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    "His promised expulsion would rank among history’s most awful humanitarian disasters. Mexico could not possibly absorb such a huge tsunami of returnees. They would have nowhere to stay, nothing to eat, no jobs."

    I don't get this. Fred is incessantly telling us how modern and up-to-date Mexico is, yet sending her own people back condemns them to homelessness, starvation, and unemployment. I am confused.

    Look, these people are not refugees fleeing war or being otherwise displaced. They are here because they want more and better stuff than they think they can get back home. I get it, acquisitiveness is Human Nature 101. Somehow when it's practiced by foreigners it's praiseworthy, but when it's practiced by middle class Americans who don't want to have to compete with foreigners for their jobs or deal with their neighborhood schools being overrun, it's called "greed."

    Indeed. If (for example) Mexicans find it intolerable to live in a miserably poor overpopulated nation full of Mexicans, how can we condemn Americans for having the same view?

    And what about Mexico’s incredibly brutal, xenophobic and OFFICIALLY racist immigration policy? Why no mention of that?

    If more people are always better, surely Mexico would only benefit by having all their nationals living illegally in the United States returned? Indeed, let’s help Mexico even more by dumping several hundred million refugees from even poorer countries, and stopping them from expelling immigrants from Guatemala etc. Of course, Mexicans would reject that proposal. Because deep down, everyone knows that post a certain point “the more the merrier” is a lie.

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  12. I see that Fred’s new hobby is building strawmen.

    First, you’re right, Fred, we’d never physically deport 12 million people. It just wouldn’t fly, though similar sized explusions can be seen repeatedly throughout history so let’s not act as though this is some impossible task. However, if you severely curtail the illegals’ employment and welfare opportunities, many will deport themselves. In addition, their difficulties will deter others from illegally coming across the border.

    Think of it this way. While I don’t want Mexicans, I do want their country’s immigration policies.

    Also, Fred, you seem to have rather poor opinion of white nationalists. However, I do not think the word nationalist means what you think it means. I don’t hate Mestizos. I don’t want bad things to happen to them. I wish them well . . . in their own land. I don’t want to live around whites because I hate other groups. I want to live around whites because they are my people and I want the freedom to associate with whom I choose. I want a homeland for my people.

    Fred the globalist. Odd.

    For those whites who wish to marry and have children with the mestizos already living here, I wish you all the best. By all means, live your life the way you want and there certainly are many good Mexican Americans out there. However, do not take umbrage if you and your family are no longer considered a part of our community. To preserve our people and culture, we must draw lines; otherwise, we are no longer a people. It’s a harsh reality but a reality nonetheless.

    And since Fred is so fond of showing pretty, young ladies (with a significant amount of European ancestry) as an example of Mexicans and Central Americans coming to the states, let me include a picture of what I see just as often driving down the street.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CJ6jViWeY9M/hqdefault.jpg

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    • Replies: @streamfortyseven
    The guys in the pic are Mara Salvatrucha gang members. Mexico doesn't want them back, and if they were sent back, they'd be back here in a flash. They're like an invading army, except they're civilians, so the thing to do with these guys is to send them to a tropical country. Cuba, Guantanamo, to be precise. They can stay there.

    As for the Mexicans who are here, who have held steady employment for three years, who haven't been arrested for drugs, DUI, or misdemeanors or felonies, and who haven't collected welfare benefits, give them green cards, and put them on a fast track for citizenship. They learn English sufficient to live here and do the things they need to do in life, they learn enough to pass the citizenship test - given in English - and swear loyalty to the US - and they become citizens. The border should be closed until such time as the US is able to accept new people coming in, and then it's a trade, for every one coming in, one person who is a second- or third-generation welfare recipient goes to Mexico.
  13. @jimbojones
    This about-face (if genuine) is a good sign - the only reasonable solution to the illegal immigrants problem seems to be mass amnesty combined with a tightening of the borders.

    Still won't be an easy solution to implement. But at least it would be a genuine goal to strive for.

    The "wall" alone is not enough, can't have 10+ mil illegals in the country, and can't deport a significant proportion of them.

    The solution of course is very simple while others make it the most difficult in the land simply fine every employer $20,000 dollars that employee’s an illegal,Ike did that back when he was president only the fine was $10,000 but what the hell the buck don’t have the bang it had back then but it solved the problem..

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    • Replies: @mtn cur
    Fines with penalty and interest for employers makes more sense than the wall, of course it seems extreme to hit some slob $20 K because he is too busy leaving snot and slobber stains on the flat screen to mow his own yard. For once I agree with how the IRS does things. Meanwhile, I know more than one latino kid who went to school on my tax nickel, stayed out of trouble, on the honor roll, and in ROTC. Not only do we need to keep these, we should see about sending some of our worthless punks to mexico.
  14. In the five years following WW2, approximately 8 million Germans were expelled from the lands they were living in and returned to Germany. So, if that can happen in bombed out Eastern Europe, just imagine what we as Americans can do with those 11 million invaders. The trains can run 24/7/365 as far as I am concerned.

    As far as where they will sleep and what they will eat, when did the flotsam of Mexico become the responsibility of the American tax payer. Let them eat tortillas and beans.

    Typical Mexican woman that Fred thinks we want to mate with:

    https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/funny-mexican-pictures-28-of-30.jpg

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Another factor is that increasing numbers of the squat monsters aren't Mexican at all. They're Central Americans, and Mexicans like them less than we do. One solution that I think the Mexican government would hit upon in short order would be to seal trains at the U.S.-Mexican border and roll them all the way to Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Honduras.
    , @dfordoom

    In the five years following WW2, approximately 8 million Germans were expelled from the lands they were living in and returned to Germany
     
    True, and several hundred thousand (and possibly more than that) died in the process. Ethnic cleansing can be rather messy.
  15. “Hate” is the refrain of the globalists. They have a very limited vocabularly that they use in debates. Take that and “racists” away and they would have to use sign language.

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  16. “Mexico could not possibly absorb such a huge tsunami of returnees. They would have nowhere to stay, nothing to eat, no jobs.”

    I’m sure someone cares, but that someone isn’t me. Maybe Mexico should have thought about that before they started dumping all their problems on the USA…
    But I understand, Fred, you live in Mexico married to a lovely Mexican woman, and neither of you want to see 30 million people heading your direction. Guess what? Neither do we….

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  17. Fred’s a disgrace to his alma mater, Hampden–Sydney College.

    Because Fred likes Latina butts, we have to hand over our American patrimony to the Global South.

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  18. @Jason Liu
    The alt-right won't like this, but Fred is right. There is no politically plausible way to deport all the illegals, let alone legal Latinos and other nonwhites, unless you're willing to go full fascist and shed blood. Even then you'd need overwhelming support from the 65% of whites in America, many of whom are leftists and mentally unfit.

    The only path for white nationalists is some kind of separatism, effectively ending the USA as you know it. But that's unlikely too. Homogenizing a country that's already this diverse without splitting into smaller states would be a first in history. The closest thing would be the departure of large Greek minorities from Turkey, or whites from Zimbabwe. But while they made up a large percentage of the host population, they did not number in the tens of millions. Raw numbers do make a difference when it comes to ethnic nationalism, because at a critical mass people will feel entitled to a piece of land.

    If you have practical means of homogenizing a nation, I'd like to hear it for future reference.

    “The only path for white nationalists is some kind of separatism, effectively ending the USA as you know it. But that’s unlikely too.”

    Why is it unlikely? Ask yourself exactly who is loyal to the concept of a United States?

    If the alt-right crowd as you put it isn’t, exactly who is? How many tears would be shed, or celebratory drinks poured here if California actually did secede?

    Trust me (thought I think you already know), most of the readers of this site would be delighted.

    And the whole thing staying together? I don’t think that will work either. Personally I’ve thought for a while whites should embrace Chinese tactics towards things like cheating on tests, and lying or doing whatever to get maximum benefits from any possible government program. All while practicing massive tax evasion. And the nepotism… oh god, the nepotism. And with as much shame as – as well any other group basically.

    Oh yeah, and I’d try to emulate what was done during Vietnam with people who didn’t want to serve in the military. The military is for benefits, pay, job training, things like that. The second it involves the slightest bit of inconvenience or danger, someone can scoot and find a helpful network of people committed to doing what it takes to aid them.

    You can fight and die for whatever. We’re out.

    If absolutely everyone is looking out for number one, or the interests of their subgroup, with absolutely no loyalty or commitment to a common good or goal…

    Well how’s that going to work? Pretty common situation now and in history. But new here. Don’t think it will be stable.

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    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep. I remember a few years back when someone mentioned that I didn't seem particularly patriotic. While I mumble something to him, inside I was hit by the realization that I simply had zero loyalty to the United States. My loyalty was to my people, and the United States certainly did not represent them.

    Since then, I've come to understand the minority mentality. This government, this society isn't mine. It's just a bunch of rules made up by people I don't like and who absolutely hate me. If I can get away with breaking those rules to help me, my family or my people, I will.

    If even a small minority of whites - say 20% or more - start to think like me, I'm not sure how things hold together. Can even a Brazil of the North exist with such little social cohesion? I don't know.
    , @Barney Fife
    Yes, in defense Whites SHOULD start emulating the aggressors, keeping in mind that the real aggressors are the Jews, not the Chinese.
  19. Here we go again, Fred setting up fake straw men to knock down. Since roughly last July in Cleveland, Trump has made it clear his focus was not on mass deportation, but rather deportations of the truly awful. (You know, those stellar Messicans Fred defends to the hilt) For those of us who love Trump, this was an acceptable adjustment as long as he built the wall, ended sanctuary cities and restricted immigration going forward. But Fred’s so crippled with Trump Derangement Syndrome that he can’t see straight, or at least keep up with the daily headlines.

    And what of this line? “Deporting a few hundred thousand of 56 million would not make a dent.”

    Where in the hell does Fred come up with 56 million?

    I call this a fake column.

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    • Replies: @mgrc
    56 million ~= number of Latinos in the US. Deporting a few hundred thousand or a few million is not going to make a big difference. Even deporting all ~12million illegals still leaves is with lots of Latinos.
  20. Foes of immigration have put it at thirteen or fourteen.

    Foes have said it was up over twenty, and that was quite a few years ago.

    Rest was TL;DR, I can only take so much of Fred’s drek.

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  21. @jimbojones
    This about-face (if genuine) is a good sign - the only reasonable solution to the illegal immigrants problem seems to be mass amnesty combined with a tightening of the borders.

    Still won't be an easy solution to implement. But at least it would be a genuine goal to strive for.

    The "wall" alone is not enough, can't have 10+ mil illegals in the country, and can't deport a significant proportion of them.

    This about-face (if genuine) is a good sign – the only reasonable solution to the illegal immigrants problem seems to be mass amnesty combined with a tightening of the borders.

    That was already tried. Oh THIS time the border will be tightened.

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  22. Fred makes some valid points but when is enough, enough? Are we not entitled to determine that we will by choice remain a primarily WASP society? I like most of the Mexicans I’ve had occasion to deal with, but continued high levels of immigration will turn us into Brazil North.

    A reasonable way to handle the problem is triage. Deport a third, tolerate a third, not legalizing them, but not actively pursuing (many will self-deport), and legalize the balance. With the wall, and an end to birthright citizenship, we’ll make a YUGE dent in the problem, while granting humanitarian relief for the “good ones.”

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    • Replies: @Sgt. Joe Friday
    Brazil North? That's if we're lucky. If we're unlucky it'll be more like Somalia meets Venezuela.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Even with only whites staying in the USA, we would not be a primarily WASP country, and that's fine with me and, I wager, fine with most white Americans too.
  23. All I can say is that Violeta must give some wicked good head for Fred to write the things he does. Or the Mexican government is slipping him some pesos. He’s become a propagandist for mestizos and Mexico and always takes their side while belittling white nationalists and those who dastardly believe that America should remain the property of, and primarily be peopled by, the founding white racial stock.

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  24. Fred is on to something here. So far, we have overlooked quite a bit. What about all those Goldman Sachs jooies the great man has hired on? Right now they are backing their semis up to the U.S. Treasury loading dock and loading up. Or the senile VFW generals like Mad Poodle Mattis? Ending all the stupid pointless wars for IzzyVille, or expanding them and starting new ones? What happens when we do not get a nice tall 40′ reinforced concrete wall topped off with concertina razor wire….stretching from the Gulf to the Pacific Ocean. Maybe instead we get a virtual wall consisting of a few laser beams and the undocumented democrats continue to flood in? Maybe we get massive leftie infrastructure and military spending and expanded entitlements instead of shrinking of the public sector? What if Trumpster actually is a fraud…..are any of you psychologically ready? Anyone have a plan B?

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  25. @Jason Liu
    The alt-right won't like this, but Fred is right. There is no politically plausible way to deport all the illegals, let alone legal Latinos and other nonwhites, unless you're willing to go full fascist and shed blood. Even then you'd need overwhelming support from the 65% of whites in America, many of whom are leftists and mentally unfit.

    The only path for white nationalists is some kind of separatism, effectively ending the USA as you know it. But that's unlikely too. Homogenizing a country that's already this diverse without splitting into smaller states would be a first in history. The closest thing would be the departure of large Greek minorities from Turkey, or whites from Zimbabwe. But while they made up a large percentage of the host population, they did not number in the tens of millions. Raw numbers do make a difference when it comes to ethnic nationalism, because at a critical mass people will feel entitled to a piece of land.

    If you have practical means of homogenizing a nation, I'd like to hear it for future reference.

    You can turn a heterogeneous nation into a homogeneous one with lots and lots and lots of time. Britannia became England; Gaul became France. I don’t know of any other way.

    Separation can happen suddenly and unexpectedly. How many people anticipated the breakup of the USSR? (I certainly didn’t.) I wonder whether the model for the U.S. will be the partition of British India into India and Pakistan.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    But India made a terrible mistake: almost nobody non-Muslim stayed in Pakistan, while many tens of millions of Muslims were foolishly allowed to stay in India. There are now, accordingly, well over TWO HUNDRED MILLION Muslims in India.

    We can't make a similar mistake with regard to non-whites staying in our part of the former USA -- let alone Africans or Muslims staying.

    , @dfordoom

    I wonder whether the model for the U.S. will be the partition of British India into India and Pakistan.
     
    With a death toll of somewhere between half a million and one-and-a-half million.
  26. @Chris Mallory
    In the five years following WW2, approximately 8 million Germans were expelled from the lands they were living in and returned to Germany. So, if that can happen in bombed out Eastern Europe, just imagine what we as Americans can do with those 11 million invaders. The trains can run 24/7/365 as far as I am concerned.

    As far as where they will sleep and what they will eat, when did the flotsam of Mexico become the responsibility of the American tax payer. Let them eat tortillas and beans.

    Typical Mexican woman that Fred thinks we want to mate with:
    https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/funny-mexican-pictures-28-of-30.jpg

    Another factor is that increasing numbers of the squat monsters aren’t Mexican at all. They’re Central Americans, and Mexicans like them less than we do. One solution that I think the Mexican government would hit upon in short order would be to seal trains at the U.S.-Mexican border and roll them all the way to Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Honduras.

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  27. I agree that it is impractical to deport millions of illegal immigrants. The alternative is to close the borders and, for those already here, enforce assimilation as the price of earning Green Cards and citizenship. That would include fluency in English and the ability to pass a difficult civics test that covers the organization of the Federal and state governments, the Constitution, and American cultural values. It would also include a hefty fine for violating the law. Those who do not assimilate in a set period of time would be deported.

    The problem is that Mexican immigrants in many locations have already reached a critical mass that allows them to retain Mexican cultural, political, and social values. I know educated Hispanics, for example, who have been in this country for ten years and still cannot speak English since they spend their lives in Little Mexicos — their Hispanic communities.

    The numbers allow Hispanics to demand that their children are educated in Spanish by Hispanic teachers, avoiding the key mechanism that assimilated previous immigrant groups. They also feel safe flying the Mexican flag as a symbol of their presence and disdain for America. In essence, have they have moved the Mexican border north. Southern California is a perfect example of this. It is starting to look and feel like Tijuana. This is an invasion and occupation and must be resisted.

    Assimilate or leave …!

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  28. Sterilize, from Patagonia to Quebéc…

    specially a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals on the deaf und on the hate, ;)

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  29. ”What to do with latinos”

    Be honest and say for them that they are useful idiots who has been used by anjooishch diaspora to deceive and destroy white..y

    and they can use NAFTA to stablish partnerships to reduce their demographic explosion, predictive of most of social problems in third world countries.

    And i think will be easier to ”convince” them about jooishch problémy, much more than generic white smart–er peuple.

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  30. Well put, Fred. I’ve made some of the same points in my comments on some of the essays on Steve Sailer’s blog.

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  31. Dear Fred,

    I don’t understand why you are trolling White nationalists. You all don’t agree and since many of them have bad manners, such “conversations” can only end in acrimony. I happen to agree with them on the subject of assimilation and intermarriage, but think it at least premature to be separatist for the country. I think it a shame that manners in these talks are often so atrocious. You made your decision to a) marry a Mexican woman and b) move to Mexico. We can agree to disagree. I think Trump is just what America needs. Hopefully, a kind of voluntary separatism along the lines of Booker T. Washington will take place and we will not have either pervasive race hatred, or mass-miscegenation. Put me down as a moderate racial separatist who disdains acrimony and trolling, by either side. Overall, I enjoy your columns and wish you no ill will, in spite of issues on which we disagree. I wish the best for you and your family in Mexico.

    Sincerely,

    Edward

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  32. Well I’d be delighted if Fred was Presnit. Such a sensible and entertaining man.
    I also think that all you “FOLKS” should leave Fred’s family out of this column I’m sure they have little to do with it and it is highly uncool to enter them into it.

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    • Replies: @Lugash
    Fred's the one bringing his family up all the time, they're fair game.
  33. Fred,

    You did not bring up the best way to send illegals home, which I think is obvious: self-deportation. If the Trump administration heavily fined businesses that employ illegals and jailed repeat offenders, illegals would be fired right away and soon enough go home on their own. It’s not that hard and the media visual of the handcuffed scab-hiring business owner escorted into a cop car would be gangbusters.

    The government could then focus their efforts on physically deporting violent criminals and those on welfare.

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    • Replies: @jpzz
    Fred didnt bring up the well known attrition method of promoting self deportation because you dont point out the giant flaws in your logic when you are cranking out propaganda.,
  34. Really badly written and reasoned pro invasion article with all the same unproven claims about how its “impossible” to deport large groups of people and other straw men.

    I might as well be reading the establishment propaganda at the NY Times or Washington Post.

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    • Replies: @bomag
    At least Fred spared us the crap about our invaders coming here to grow the GDP and solve hard math problems.

    I'll give him props for being honest: his favorite people are here to loot, so let them loot in peace; if we are too mean to them, they will beat us up; so we gots to be nice.
  35. @S Johnson
    Fred,

    You did not bring up the best way to send illegals home, which I think is obvious: self-deportation. If the Trump administration heavily fined businesses that employ illegals and jailed repeat offenders, illegals would be fired right away and soon enough go home on their own. It's not that hard and the media visual of the handcuffed scab-hiring business owner escorted into a cop car would be gangbusters.

    The government could then focus their efforts on physically deporting violent criminals and those on welfare.

    Fred didnt bring up the well known attrition method of promoting self deportation because you dont point out the giant flaws in your logic when you are cranking out propaganda.,

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  36. Fred, you’ve gone native. Latinos are not a done deal anymore than a forever leftist presidency was a done deal. The legal climate is hostile to illegals now, and things will tighten. If they don’t make a run for the border before it turns utterly hostile for them, well, they will pay the price. I have no trouble with erecting prison camps in the desert or Tundra and making them work for their keep until we can get them back to where they came from.

    But, leave they will.

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    • Replies: @mtn cur
    Most of them are working for their keep, that's the problem, remember?
  37. One thing that I’m increasingly wondering about Fred Reed is exactly who he thinks his audience is.

    It’s not neocons. It’s not the readers on Unz. Not the DailyKos crowd. Probably not Mexicans, I mean what – 1 in 10,000 would know who he is? If that?

    BTW Fred, you know Mexico has dealt pretty harshly with illegals itself. Want to write a few words on that one? Got any cute snapshots of Guatemalans?

    Now I’m not going to flatter myself that Fred Reed will lose a moment’s worth of sleep over not having my support or approval. But who exactly is he writing for at this point? Curmudgeons for the Truth?

    I’m literally drawing a blank as to who, besides Unz, would have him on their sites. On the one hand he excoriates foreign interventions and the US throwing its weight around. Then he follows it up with essays about blacks David Duke could find no fault with.

    But then he turns around and writes things like this. Like he is a version of Lindsay Graham, just working for La Raza, instead of Lindsay Graham.

    So I’m genuinely puzzled. Who exactly are you writing for? To? Who are you trying to persuade?

    Cause I ain’t buyin’ it. I’m not the whole world of course, but who exactly?

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    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    My best - and wholly speculative - guess is that deep down, Fred is a loving father and husband. He is now married to a presumably fine Mexican woman and adopted her presumably fine children. Fred also likely looks upon the Mexican people (or, at least, the Mexican people in his area) as his people now.

    As such, Fred does what every loving parent does, he has a blind spot for his kids. Parents always think that they're kids are smarter, better-looking and more capable than they really are. And, in truth, Fred's adopted kids and the people that he hangs out with in Mexico probably are generally smart and capable.

    Of course, that means little when looking at the larger picture, but we are all clouded by what we see day to day in our own lives.

    Fred also believes - with much justification - that Americans whites have become hypocritical stuffed shirts that could use a little Latin flare injection into the gene pool.

    Basically, Fred's heart gets in the way of his head when he writes of Mexicans and South Americans. It's understandable, if regrettable.
  38. @Sunbeam
    "The only path for white nationalists is some kind of separatism, effectively ending the USA as you know it. But that’s unlikely too."

    Why is it unlikely? Ask yourself exactly who is loyal to the concept of a United States?

    If the alt-right crowd as you put it isn't, exactly who is? How many tears would be shed, or celebratory drinks poured here if California actually did secede?

    Trust me (thought I think you already know), most of the readers of this site would be delighted.

    And the whole thing staying together? I don't think that will work either. Personally I've thought for a while whites should embrace Chinese tactics towards things like cheating on tests, and lying or doing whatever to get maximum benefits from any possible government program. All while practicing massive tax evasion. And the nepotism... oh god, the nepotism. And with as much shame as - as well any other group basically.

    Oh yeah, and I'd try to emulate what was done during Vietnam with people who didn't want to serve in the military. The military is for benefits, pay, job training, things like that. The second it involves the slightest bit of inconvenience or danger, someone can scoot and find a helpful network of people committed to doing what it takes to aid them.

    You can fight and die for whatever. We're out.

    If absolutely everyone is looking out for number one, or the interests of their subgroup, with absolutely no loyalty or commitment to a common good or goal...

    Well how's that going to work? Pretty common situation now and in history. But new here. Don't think it will be stable.

    Yep. I remember a few years back when someone mentioned that I didn’t seem particularly patriotic. While I mumble something to him, inside I was hit by the realization that I simply had zero loyalty to the United States. My loyalty was to my people, and the United States certainly did not represent them.

    Since then, I’ve come to understand the minority mentality. This government, this society isn’t mine. It’s just a bunch of rules made up by people I don’t like and who absolutely hate me. If I can get away with breaking those rules to help me, my family or my people, I will.

    If even a small minority of whites – say 20% or more – start to think like me, I’m not sure how things hold together. Can even a Brazil of the North exist with such little social cohesion? I don’t know.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    More and more white (European) Americans feel as you do. I used to tear up singing America the Beautiful. Now I no longer display the American flag. It's not my country any more. I wonder sometimes if it ever was.
    , @dc.sunsets

    If even a small minority of whites – say 20% or more – start to think like me, I’m not sure how things hold together.
     
    If it's largely the minority who are paying the bills, stuff will get REAL in a hurry.

    For 50 years America has put its toys, its recreation, its McMansions, its stocks, its commodities and its Faux Moral Superiority on the National Credit Card.

    This is not a permanent system, and while it has lasted far longer than imaginable, at some point it will reach terminus. When that happens, anyone who thinks "we" will still be willing to pay for all this "feed the world, invade the world, invite the world and pay people to sit on their asses" crap is delusional.

    Anyone who is deemed a drag, an expense, an invader, etc., will be treated VERY badly.
    , @Alden
    I feel as you do. I absolutely hate this country for what it has done and will continue to do to Whites.
    I also think Whites should do what the Chinese and other successful people do, lie, cheat, steal and evade taxes.

    Last time looked at the DOJ website, the fine for employing illegal aliens was $3,000, less than a third of what it was in the 1950s.

    Going after criminal illegals is great PR. It enrages liberals and makes Trump voters feel better.

    But when is Trump going to go after Tyson, Perdue, Foster Farms, Armour, Oscar Mayer, Farmer John and the entire food industry? Probably never
  39. @bluedog
    The solution of course is very simple while others make it the most difficult in the land simply fine every employer $20,000 dollars that employee's an illegal,Ike did that back when he was president only the fine was $10,000 but what the hell the buck don't have the bang it had back then but it solved the problem..

    Fines with penalty and interest for employers makes more sense than the wall, of course it seems extreme to hit some slob $20 K because he is too busy leaving snot and slobber stains on the flat screen to mow his own yard. For once I agree with how the IRS does things. Meanwhile, I know more than one latino kid who went to school on my tax nickel, stayed out of trouble, on the honor roll, and in ROTC. Not only do we need to keep these, we should see about sending some of our worthless punks to mexico.

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  40. @Quartermaster
    Fred, you've gone native. Latinos are not a done deal anymore than a forever leftist presidency was a done deal. The legal climate is hostile to illegals now, and things will tighten. If they don't make a run for the border before it turns utterly hostile for them, well, they will pay the price. I have no trouble with erecting prison camps in the desert or Tundra and making them work for their keep until we can get them back to where they came from.

    But, leave they will.

    Most of them are working for their keep, that’s the problem, remember?

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  41. Hi. First of all.
    I am sorry to those who doesn’t like my written English but I am a Mexican living in Mexico and I would like to put a comment.

    As USA citizens you have the right to do whatever you want to do with your immigration laws or build a wall if in your mind that makes you feel safer avoiding that Mexican but in general Latinos cross the border or even send back to Mexico those who you called “bad hombres”. That will not end

    But to those who think that could avoid the Mexican presence in USA would be good idea to review our neighborhood history.
    We have always been here and we be always here because we lost the half of our territory due to your expansionism and the robbery you infringe to us helped for our internal battles at that times.
    That is the past and we can’t change it for now.
    The reality is that what you called “brown wave” or any other offense you could say will not go to change the mexican presence.
    They are American citizens too. And at least you are preparing something like ghettos like for Mexicans, Chinese or any other human you don’t like to mix like you already did in WWII with Japanese

    I have been in your country as employee, tourist and for shopping before our peso devaluation.
    You have a nice and beautiful modern country in which most of Mexican WONT like go to live but if we go is not to take your jobs is just to have a better income or at least a job.

    We hope a better times of neighborhood with USA.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    I'm sure many Mexicans regard U.S. 19th Century expansionism as robbery. I'm not necessarily sure I blame them. I am sure that it's a good reason to keep them in their own country.
    , @Anonymous
    Hey Vato.

    I do respect your people's and am familiar with how your country was robbed of territory, but keep in mind that Mexicans are an extremely racist people.

    You do know that Mexico ethnically cleansed the Chinese living on Mexican territory when the Chinese became too numerous and too successfull right?

    You do know that Mexico is basically a caste society where the light skinned Mexicans have all the wealth and appear on TV all the time, but dark skinned Mexicans all desparagingly called Indio and are being pushed out of your country right?

    You do realize that Mexicans rape 80% of the women who cross into Mexico to reach the American border right?

    You do realize that Mexican law descriminates against Americans by not letting us purchase land in Mexico close to the border, but no such law is on the books in America right?

    I am interested in how much of this you actually know.
    , @RobRich
    "We have always been here and we be always here because we lost the half of our territory due to your expansionism and the robbery you infringe to us"

    Many here would reply like this:" Nope. Like most Mexicans and many in the US you've been brainwashed by nationalist or far-Left propaganda.

    Parts of Mexico seceded fair and square. They were invaded by the crooks running the country, who lost. They stupidly attacked the US, then really lost. At the end most of Mexico had seceded and was trying to join the US. The US unwisely only took half. It should have taken them all plus also most of the nations up to Columbia who tried to join the US in those days IMHO and so we wouldn't be debating this mess.

    Most of the Mexican illegals the people complain about here are far-Leftists, proud ignoramuses, and thugs, or simply damaged people victims of the economic disasters of the far-Left.

    You called yourself a United States of Mexico. Act like one. Fix your country. That is the attitude of many in the USA. The Libertarians in your country have the right idea: be a good neighbor-- Fix your house, not let your domestic abuse overrun into our backyard."
  42. It was just a matter of time before Trump would back off from his stance on deporting millions of Mexican illegals living in the USA; and yes… Amnesty is coming. What really amazes me is the fact that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have picked up the flag to introduce a bill Project to amnesty and assimilate all those votes so far … I mean aliens who are living in the US and won’t leave. The ‘immigration crisis’ is reaching a boiling point and must be solved. Yes, and many other issues as well. That’s why the topic was a hot issue during the presidential campaigns and Americans better elected a complete outsider who sold them a ‘Wall’ to solve the problem than a hardened crook who had nothing new to say. America must recover the control of its borders? Yes! No single country is viable if it doesn’t define and control its limits. However, I feel the solution is not going to come as long as Americans don’t ask themselves the hard questions. The millions of illegals now living in America and the hordes already coming are not something that happened out of the blue. First, they were invited by both Big Money and middle class America to come to do all those nasty jobs Americans no longer want to do. It began with Agri-business, but now it has extended to services and domestic duties as well. So, more than something which started as an invasion, you had a very unregulated and dynamic working market. Even more, most of the illegal immigrants coming to America are economic refugees… Deplorables! Everyday victims of the economic depredation American Government enforces to the rest of the World to the benefit of Global corporations. As long as American Government continues being the political and military arm of the ruling World financial system the economic disaster will reign across the World and the hordes will continue pushing in American and European borders. And last, but not least important, all those Syrian and Middle East refugees knocking at the door of American borders right now didn’t come gratuitously. They are just the last victims of the last war America is fighting for the pariah State of Israel. It’s so funny to see those America’s firsters demanding to prevent the arriving of ME ‘terrorists’ disguised as refugees just to watch them vowing to defend our ‘eternal friend’ Israel the next minute. The more committed the US are with supporting the expansionist and criminal policies of Israel, the more resented and angry Muslims you are going to have coming to American shores, that simple. So, are Americans going to ask themselves these questions or they are continue thinking that the immigration crisis happened out of the blue?
    As for what to do with Latinos, also Mexicans, already living in the US? Americans have no option, but to assimilate them -It’s the only realistic option. Kicking millions of them South of the border down Mexico way even using the military? I don’t think American people would stand for it. But even if the Trump admin makes a serious effort to do that, the internal political reaction would be huge; and Democrats and Republicans would side with the immigrants, not with Trump. Now, let’s imagine for some moment that some way, somehow, Washington manages to deport millions of people out of the US, the international political cost would be enormous, American influence around the World would diminish significantly and its ability to influence and deliver on other issues would almost disappear, that is something the American elites both in government and business are not willing to afford and so, they won’t let that to happen.

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  43. There is no need to deport them. If we make life hard for illegals, they will self-deport.

    One might also offer them a half-amnesty, half-deportation deal: they reveal themselves to the US government, in return they receive a two year work permit. After that, they must go back to their home countries, which will be verified by reporting in person to a US Consulate. Once that condition is satisfied, they get back the Social Security taxes they paid.

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  44. @Sunbeam
    One thing that I'm increasingly wondering about Fred Reed is exactly who he thinks his audience is.

    It's not neocons. It's not the readers on Unz. Not the DailyKos crowd. Probably not Mexicans, I mean what - 1 in 10,000 would know who he is? If that?

    BTW Fred, you know Mexico has dealt pretty harshly with illegals itself. Want to write a few words on that one? Got any cute snapshots of Guatemalans?

    Now I'm not going to flatter myself that Fred Reed will lose a moment's worth of sleep over not having my support or approval. But who exactly is he writing for at this point? Curmudgeons for the Truth?

    I'm literally drawing a blank as to who, besides Unz, would have him on their sites. On the one hand he excoriates foreign interventions and the US throwing its weight around. Then he follows it up with essays about blacks David Duke could find no fault with.

    But then he turns around and writes things like this. Like he is a version of Lindsay Graham, just working for La Raza, instead of Lindsay Graham.

    So I'm genuinely puzzled. Who exactly are you writing for? To? Who are you trying to persuade?

    Cause I ain't buyin' it. I'm not the whole world of course, but who exactly?

    My best – and wholly speculative – guess is that deep down, Fred is a loving father and husband. He is now married to a presumably fine Mexican woman and adopted her presumably fine children. Fred also likely looks upon the Mexican people (or, at least, the Mexican people in his area) as his people now.

    As such, Fred does what every loving parent does, he has a blind spot for his kids. Parents always think that they’re kids are smarter, better-looking and more capable than they really are. And, in truth, Fred’s adopted kids and the people that he hangs out with in Mexico probably are generally smart and capable.

    Of course, that means little when looking at the larger picture, but we are all clouded by what we see day to day in our own lives.

    Fred also believes – with much justification – that Americans whites have become hypocritical stuffed shirts that could use a little Latin flare injection into the gene pool.

    Basically, Fred’s heart gets in the way of his head when he writes of Mexicans and South Americans. It’s understandable, if regrettable.

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  45. I like everything about this article except the illegal immigrants part. I want them to do it the right way. be a legal immigrant.

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  46. @E. Burke
    Fred makes some valid points but when is enough, enough? Are we not entitled to determine that we will by choice remain a primarily WASP society? I like most of the Mexicans I've had occasion to deal with, but continued high levels of immigration will turn us into Brazil North.

    A reasonable way to handle the problem is triage. Deport a third, tolerate a third, not legalizing them, but not actively pursuing (many will self-deport), and legalize the balance. With the wall, and an end to birthright citizenship, we'll make a YUGE dent in the problem, while granting humanitarian relief for the "good ones."

    Brazil North? That’s if we’re lucky. If we’re unlucky it’ll be more like Somalia meets Venezuela.

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  47. @Vato Mexicano
    Hi. First of all.
    I am sorry to those who doesn't like my written English but I am a Mexican living in Mexico and I would like to put a comment.

    As USA citizens you have the right to do whatever you want to do with your immigration laws or build a wall if in your mind that makes you feel safer avoiding that Mexican but in general Latinos cross the border or even send back to Mexico those who you called “bad hombres”. That will not end

    But to those who think that could avoid the Mexican presence in USA would be good idea to review our neighborhood history.
    We have always been here and we be always here because we lost the half of our territory due to your expansionism and the robbery you infringe to us helped for our internal battles at that times.
    That is the past and we can't change it for now.
    The reality is that what you called “brown wave” or any other offense you could say will not go to change the mexican presence.
    They are American citizens too. And at least you are preparing something like ghettos like for Mexicans, Chinese or any other human you don't like to mix like you already did in WWII with Japanese

    I have been in your country as employee, tourist and for shopping before our peso devaluation.
    You have a nice and beautiful modern country in which most of Mexican WONT like go to live but if we go is not to take your jobs is just to have a better income or at least a job.

    We hope a better times of neighborhood with USA.

    I’m sure many Mexicans regard U.S. 19th Century expansionism as robbery. I’m not necessarily sure I blame them. I am sure that it’s a good reason to keep them in their own country.

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  48. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep. I remember a few years back when someone mentioned that I didn't seem particularly patriotic. While I mumble something to him, inside I was hit by the realization that I simply had zero loyalty to the United States. My loyalty was to my people, and the United States certainly did not represent them.

    Since then, I've come to understand the minority mentality. This government, this society isn't mine. It's just a bunch of rules made up by people I don't like and who absolutely hate me. If I can get away with breaking those rules to help me, my family or my people, I will.

    If even a small minority of whites - say 20% or more - start to think like me, I'm not sure how things hold together. Can even a Brazil of the North exist with such little social cohesion? I don't know.

    More and more white (European) Americans feel as you do. I used to tear up singing America the Beautiful. Now I no longer display the American flag. It’s not my country any more. I wonder sometimes if it ever was.

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  49. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep. I remember a few years back when someone mentioned that I didn't seem particularly patriotic. While I mumble something to him, inside I was hit by the realization that I simply had zero loyalty to the United States. My loyalty was to my people, and the United States certainly did not represent them.

    Since then, I've come to understand the minority mentality. This government, this society isn't mine. It's just a bunch of rules made up by people I don't like and who absolutely hate me. If I can get away with breaking those rules to help me, my family or my people, I will.

    If even a small minority of whites - say 20% or more - start to think like me, I'm not sure how things hold together. Can even a Brazil of the North exist with such little social cohesion? I don't know.

    If even a small minority of whites – say 20% or more – start to think like me, I’m not sure how things hold together.

    If it’s largely the minority who are paying the bills, stuff will get REAL in a hurry.

    For 50 years America has put its toys, its recreation, its McMansions, its stocks, its commodities and its Faux Moral Superiority on the National Credit Card.

    This is not a permanent system, and while it has lasted far longer than imaginable, at some point it will reach terminus. When that happens, anyone who thinks “we” will still be willing to pay for all this “feed the world, invade the world, invite the world and pay people to sit on their asses” crap is delusional.

    Anyone who is deemed a drag, an expense, an invader, etc., will be treated VERY badly.

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  50. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Fredkins, just look at Latin America. Brazil alone is bigger than the US. And Argentina is HUGE. And there are other big sized nations in South America. And they got lots of great land and tons of resources.
    This is PRIME territory, and so much can be done with it.

    So, why do Latinos still look to America for ideas, opportunity, leadership, and etc?
    Imagine if Chinese, Germans, Japanese, or even Iranians(of Persian extract) had all that land. They would do great things with it.
    But Latin America continues to lag. They are sitting on a gold mine, but they can’t do anything.

    Latinos are filled with hatred and resentment at gringo, BUT they can’ t do ANYTHING without Yanquis. Latinos want to believe that they lag because of Yanqui-Gringo imperialism, but Latino imperialists arrived first in the New World. They have failed to develop on their own, so they came to rely on US investment. They rely on the US cuz of their own failures, and that is the real source of their envy and resentment. But being a bunch of lowlifes, they pretend that their failures are the result of gringo. If gringo is so evil, then Latin Americans should build their own economies. And they should stop trying to go to gringo-land. Latinos bitch about gringos but plead with gringos to invest more and to allow them into gringo-land.

    Also, white Latin elites despise the brown or black masses. And non-white masses in Latin America don’t trust the Conquistador elites.

    Also, white Latin elites don’t want to be challenged by the brown masses — just like the Brahmin caste kept the lower orders down in India — and never did much to raise them socially, intellectually, or economically. Whether indigenous people of Latin America have IQ on par with whites, they surely could have done more with better leadership.

    If Latin America was all just a desert and wasteland, I can understand why people there would look to the US. But Latin America is filled with wonders, tons of land, tons of resources, even more than Russia and China combined.

    It is time for Latinos to stop underachieving.

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    • Replies: @hyperbola
    Perhaps Latinos could support a murderous, fascist government in the USA so they can "catch up" with the US.

    Kissinger approved Argentinian 'dirty war'
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/06/argentina.usa

    New Memo: Kissinger Gave the "Green Light" for Argentina's Dirty War
    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/01/new-memo-kissinger-gave-green-light-argentina-dirty-war

    Or perhaps they could sponsor some financial corruption to hollow out the US economy so they can "catch up".

    Panama Papers: Hundreds of Israeli Companies, Shareholders Listed in Leaked Documents Detailing Offshore Holdings
    http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/1.712497

    PANAMA PAPERS TARGETED HIT JOB
    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/panama-papers-targeted-hit-job/
  51. @Jason Liu
    The alt-right won't like this, but Fred is right. There is no politically plausible way to deport all the illegals, let alone legal Latinos and other nonwhites, unless you're willing to go full fascist and shed blood. Even then you'd need overwhelming support from the 65% of whites in America, many of whom are leftists and mentally unfit.

    The only path for white nationalists is some kind of separatism, effectively ending the USA as you know it. But that's unlikely too. Homogenizing a country that's already this diverse without splitting into smaller states would be a first in history. The closest thing would be the departure of large Greek minorities from Turkey, or whites from Zimbabwe. But while they made up a large percentage of the host population, they did not number in the tens of millions. Raw numbers do make a difference when it comes to ethnic nationalism, because at a critical mass people will feel entitled to a piece of land.

    If you have practical means of homogenizing a nation, I'd like to hear it for future reference.

    Wrong. Simply take away welfare, free medical care, and jobs, and most would self deport. But Ike deported 1 1/2 million Mexicans in 4 months, back in the 1950s, so it can’t be that tough…

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    • Replies: @Sunspot
    Another easy solution: Every small town across the entire country has at least three or more mexican restaurants, all a fortress of illegals working there. And how do they survive? They are overwhelmingly patronized by white customers. We supply the money to fund their enterprises, which in turn funds more illegals. If there were a boycott of these thousands of restaurants, they would most likely dry up within a few months and we'd begin to see self deportation increase. So can we stop going there already? Please?
  52. Pictures of attractive young women are a primary pro-immigration propaganda tactic.

    It was a lie in cigarette ads and it’s a lie in discussions of immigration.

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  53. These comments are illuminating, indeed, in that the ugly American resides not in Mexico, but here in the USA.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Well, most Mexicans are ugly physically and spiritually on either side of the border, so we are not particularly stung by your little zinger, Paco.
  54. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    "His promised expulsion would rank among history’s most awful humanitarian disasters. Mexico could not possibly absorb such a huge tsunami of returnees. They would have nowhere to stay, nothing to eat, no jobs."

    I don't get this. Fred is incessantly telling us how modern and up-to-date Mexico is, yet sending her own people back condemns them to homelessness, starvation, and unemployment. I am confused.

    Look, these people are not refugees fleeing war or being otherwise displaced. They are here because they want more and better stuff than they think they can get back home. I get it, acquisitiveness is Human Nature 101. Somehow when it's practiced by foreigners it's praiseworthy, but when it's practiced by middle class Americans who don't want to have to compete with foreigners for their jobs or deal with their neighborhood schools being overrun, it's called "greed."

    Actually, quite a few of them ARE fleeing the aftermath of wars that “our” ZionCons instigated in Central America.

    Good Christ, Bad Christ

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/09/09/good-christ-bad-christ/

    How Neocons Destabilized Europe

    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/07/how-neocons-destabilized-europe/

    … When I first encountered the neocons in the 1980s, they had been given Central America to play with. President Ronald Reagan had credentialed many of them, bringing into the U.S. government neocon luminaries such as Elliott Abrams and Robert Kagan. But Reagan mostly kept them out of the big-power realms: the Mideast and Europe.

    Those strategic areas went to the “adults,” people like James Baker, George Shultz, Philip Habib and Brent Scowcroft. The poor Central Americans, as they tried to shed generations of repression and backwardness imposed by brutal right-wing oligarchies, faced U.S. neocon ideologues who unleashed death squads and even genocide against peasants, students and workers.

    The result not surprisingly was a flood of refugees, especially from El Salvador and Guatemala, northward to the United States. The neocon “success” in the 1980s, crushing progressive social movements and reinforcing the oligarchic controls, left most countries of Central America in the grip of corrupt regimes and crime syndicates, periodically driving more waves of what Reagan called “feet people” through Mexico to the southern U.S. border….
    _________________________________

    And, of course, the same ZionCons (and their lackeys) continue abusing Central American countries.

    Hillary Lost My Vote in Honduras

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/02/hillary-lost-my-vote-in-honduras/

    The Jewish families that run Honduras

    https://dagobertobellucci.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/the-jewish-families-that-run-honduras/

    THE ISRAELI CONNECTION TO THE HONDURAN COUP

    https://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/the-israeli-connection-to-the-honduran-coup/

    Hillary Clinton is lying about the criminal U.S.-backed coup in Honduras.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/04/15/hillary_clinton_is_lying_about_the_criminal_u_s_backed_coup_in_honduras_it_should_be_as_scandalous_as_libya/

    Before Her Murder, Berta Cáceres Singled Out Hillary Clinton for Criticism
    The presidential candidate has ignored criticism of her role in enabling the consolidation of the Honduran coup.

    http://www.thenation.com/article/chronicle-of-a-honduran-assassination-foretold/

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    Why didn't we have this problem when the Somozas were running Nicaragua, or the right wing dictatorships in El Salvador or Guatemala?

    Those "progressive" social movements were nothing more than Cuban and Soviet meddling, brought on by that boob Jimmy Carter's having inadvertently signaled that he would not fight same. You can't blame the Soviets for having taken advantage, Carter allowed it.

  55. @Anon
    Fredkins, just look at Latin America. Brazil alone is bigger than the US. And Argentina is HUGE. And there are other big sized nations in South America. And they got lots of great land and tons of resources.
    This is PRIME territory, and so much can be done with it.

    So, why do Latinos still look to America for ideas, opportunity, leadership, and etc?
    Imagine if Chinese, Germans, Japanese, or even Iranians(of Persian extract) had all that land. They would do great things with it.
    But Latin America continues to lag. They are sitting on a gold mine, but they can't do anything.

    Latinos are filled with hatred and resentment at gringo, BUT they can' t do ANYTHING without Yanquis. Latinos want to believe that they lag because of Yanqui-Gringo imperialism, but Latino imperialists arrived first in the New World. They have failed to develop on their own, so they came to rely on US investment. They rely on the US cuz of their own failures, and that is the real source of their envy and resentment. But being a bunch of lowlifes, they pretend that their failures are the result of gringo. If gringo is so evil, then Latin Americans should build their own economies. And they should stop trying to go to gringo-land. Latinos bitch about gringos but plead with gringos to invest more and to allow them into gringo-land.

    Also, white Latin elites despise the brown or black masses. And non-white masses in Latin America don't trust the Conquistador elites.

    Also, white Latin elites don't want to be challenged by the brown masses --- just like the Brahmin caste kept the lower orders down in India --- and never did much to raise them socially, intellectually, or economically. Whether indigenous people of Latin America have IQ on par with whites, they surely could have done more with better leadership.

    If Latin America was all just a desert and wasteland, I can understand why people there would look to the US. But Latin America is filled with wonders, tons of land, tons of resources, even more than Russia and China combined.

    It is time for Latinos to stop underachieving.

    Perhaps Latinos could support a murderous, fascist government in the USA so they can “catch up” with the US.

    Kissinger approved Argentinian ‘dirty war’

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/06/argentina.usa

    New Memo: Kissinger Gave the “Green Light” for Argentina’s Dirty War

    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/01/new-memo-kissinger-gave-green-light-argentina-dirty-war

    Or perhaps they could sponsor some financial corruption to hollow out the US economy so they can “catch up”.

    Panama Papers: Hundreds of Israeli Companies, Shareholders Listed in Leaked Documents Detailing Offshore Holdings

    http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/1.712497

    PANAMA PAPERS TARGETED HIT JOB

    https://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/panama-papers-targeted-hit-job/

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  56. Is assimilation inevitable? Yes. Doesn’t mean it won’t make the American genotype dumber and browner, it will, but we’ll accept it. But if it’s inevitable, why worry about Trump’s oozing with contempt? The assimilation will occur regardless, if it is so inevitable, the result of Whites finding Hispanics pretty. If you look at the history of assimilation, it is rarely conducted in an environment of pure equality. Throughout the waves of European immigration, assimilation occurred, but it occurred in an environment where it was unquestioned that America was founded, and would be thereafter culturally dominated, by WASPs. Oozing with contempt? You could call it that, certainly there were some WASPs who fit the bill. But hey, if they didn’t like it, they could always go back to Ireland or Italy, and many did, and thus, my response to the Mexicans is the same.

    As for mass deportation, it’s clearly possible. Fred treats 50,000 deportations a month as achievable, there were, in 2012, about 33,416 arrest in the USA per day. But it’s really a strawman, as the way forward is attrition through enforcement against employers.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/persons-arrested/persons-arrested

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    • Replies: @Santoculto
    ''Is assimilation inevitable? Yes.''

    Assimilation for you is ''mixing race''**

    Because white americans have lived with black americans since a long time and little genotypical assimilation have happened.

    Cultural assimilation seems inevitable but genotypical assimilation is manageable.
  57. @hyperbola
    Actually, quite a few of them ARE fleeing the aftermath of wars that "our" ZionCons instigated in Central America.

    Good Christ, Bad Christ
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/09/09/good-christ-bad-christ/

    How Neocons Destabilized Europe
    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/07/how-neocons-destabilized-europe/
    ... When I first encountered the neocons in the 1980s, they had been given Central America to play with. President Ronald Reagan had credentialed many of them, bringing into the U.S. government neocon luminaries such as Elliott Abrams and Robert Kagan. But Reagan mostly kept them out of the big-power realms: the Mideast and Europe.

    Those strategic areas went to the “adults,” people like James Baker, George Shultz, Philip Habib and Brent Scowcroft. The poor Central Americans, as they tried to shed generations of repression and backwardness imposed by brutal right-wing oligarchies, faced U.S. neocon ideologues who unleashed death squads and even genocide against peasants, students and workers.

    The result not surprisingly was a flood of refugees, especially from El Salvador and Guatemala, northward to the United States. The neocon “success” in the 1980s, crushing progressive social movements and reinforcing the oligarchic controls, left most countries of Central America in the grip of corrupt regimes and crime syndicates, periodically driving more waves of what Reagan called “feet people” through Mexico to the southern U.S. border....
    _________________________________

    And, of course, the same ZionCons (and their lackeys) continue abusing Central American countries.

    Hillary Lost My Vote in Honduras
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/02/hillary-lost-my-vote-in-honduras/

    The Jewish families that run Honduras
    https://dagobertobellucci.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/the-jewish-families-that-run-honduras/

    THE ISRAELI CONNECTION TO THE HONDURAN COUP
    https://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/the-israeli-connection-to-the-honduran-coup/

    Hillary Clinton is lying about the criminal U.S.-backed coup in Honduras.
    http://www.salon.com/2016/04/15/hillary_clinton_is_lying_about_the_criminal_u_s_backed_coup_in_honduras_it_should_be_as_scandalous_as_libya/

    Before Her Murder, Berta Cáceres Singled Out Hillary Clinton for Criticism
    The presidential candidate has ignored criticism of her role in enabling the consolidation of the Honduran coup.
    http://www.thenation.com/article/chronicle-of-a-honduran-assassination-foretold/

    Why didn’t we have this problem when the Somozas were running Nicaragua, or the right wing dictatorships in El Salvador or Guatemala?

    Those “progressive” social movements were nothing more than Cuban and Soviet meddling, brought on by that boob Jimmy Carter’s having inadvertently signaled that he would not fight same. You can’t blame the Soviets for having taken advantage, Carter allowed it.

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  58. @Renoman
    Well I'd be delighted if Fred was Presnit. Such a sensible and entertaining man.
    I also think that all you "FOLKS" should leave Fred's family out of this column I'm sure they have little to do with it and it is highly uncool to enter them into it.

    Fred’s the one bringing his family up all the time, they’re fair game.

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  59. @dc.sunsets
    Mestizos have a home. It is NOT in North America.

    If conditions in North America become hostile enough, they will go home. For me, this IS my home. If I'm not here (USA), I'm on vacation somewhere. It's really that simple.

    I am far from alone in being upset that when I visit a local store it now looks like I was magically transported to Quintana Roo or somewhere equally "south." My local WalMart looks no less Mayan than did a visit to Sam Walton's big box in Downtown Cancun 15 years ago.

    An invasion without guns is still defined by the numbers (and concentration) of outsiders. The USA has been invaded and large parts of it are now Occupied Lands.

    Fred can take his sanctimony and ram it where the sigmoidoscopes don't shine. They have to go home, we can cook our own restaurant meals, pick our own crops and mow our own lawns.

    “Mestizos have a home. It is NOT in North America.”

    Mestizos reside in Mexico. Last time I checked, that nation is part of North America.

    “If conditions in North America become hostile enough, they will go home. For me, this IS my home. If I’m not here (USA), I’m on vacation somewhere. It’s really that simple.”

    America is the home to a wide range of races and ethnic groups. Always has been, always will be.

    “An invasion without guns is still defined by the numbers (and concentration) of outsiders. The USA has been invaded and large parts of it are now Occupied Lands.”

    That’s a False News Story.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Many of us don't consider Mexico to be part of North America geographically or culturally. North America is the USA and Canada, just as NAFTA should be only the USA and Canada.
  60. @Kyle a
    "What to do with the latinos" send em to Fred. He has a large casa with which to accommodate his returning familia.

    He also has a very different concept of beauty than we do if he presents the women in the photo above as someone attractive to white men.

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    • Replies: @rw95
    Because you're suddenly the representative of all white men.
  61. No of course we won’t round up 11+ million, but we must make work, welfare, school and healthcare available only to legal residents. They will leave on their own.

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  62. @E. Burke
    Fred makes some valid points but when is enough, enough? Are we not entitled to determine that we will by choice remain a primarily WASP society? I like most of the Mexicans I've had occasion to deal with, but continued high levels of immigration will turn us into Brazil North.

    A reasonable way to handle the problem is triage. Deport a third, tolerate a third, not legalizing them, but not actively pursuing (many will self-deport), and legalize the balance. With the wall, and an end to birthright citizenship, we'll make a YUGE dent in the problem, while granting humanitarian relief for the "good ones."

    Even with only whites staying in the USA, we would not be a primarily WASP country, and that’s fine with me and, I wager, fine with most white Americans too.

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  63. @Diversity Heretic
    You can turn a heterogeneous nation into a homogeneous one with lots and lots and lots of time. Britannia became England; Gaul became France. I don't know of any other way.

    Separation can happen suddenly and unexpectedly. How many people anticipated the breakup of the USSR? (I certainly didn't.) I wonder whether the model for the U.S. will be the partition of British India into India and Pakistan.

    But India made a terrible mistake: almost nobody non-Muslim stayed in Pakistan, while many tens of millions of Muslims were foolishly allowed to stay in India. There are now, accordingly, well over TWO HUNDRED MILLION Muslims in India.

    We can’t make a similar mistake with regard to non-whites staying in our part of the former USA — let alone Africans or Muslims staying.

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    Agreed. If the present United States is partitioned, the European-origin part needs to be at least 95% European-origin Americans. 98% would be even better. The only Muslims would be accredited diplomats of Muslim countries.
  64. @Satanyahoo
    These comments are illuminating, indeed, in that the ugly American resides not in Mexico, but here in the USA.

    Well, most Mexicans are ugly physically and spiritually on either side of the border, so we are not particularly stung by your little zinger, Paco.

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  65. @Corvinus
    "Mestizos have a home. It is NOT in North America."

    Mestizos reside in Mexico. Last time I checked, that nation is part of North America.

    "If conditions in North America become hostile enough, they will go home. For me, this IS my home. If I’m not here (USA), I’m on vacation somewhere. It’s really that simple."

    America is the home to a wide range of races and ethnic groups. Always has been, always will be.

    "An invasion without guns is still defined by the numbers (and concentration) of outsiders. The USA has been invaded and large parts of it are now Occupied Lands."

    That's a False News Story.

    Many of us don’t consider Mexico to be part of North America geographically or culturally. North America is the USA and Canada, just as NAFTA should be only the USA and Canada.

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    "Many of us don’t consider Mexico to be part of North America geographically or culturally."

    Who is this "many of us"? Would that be "good whites" or "bad whites"?

    "North America is the USA and Canada, just as NAFTA should be only the USA and Canada."

    Wow, just wow.
  66. While I don’t always agree with Fred, I like his articles, and automatically read every one as they become available. He’s the kind of guy I would love to sit in a bar and argue with, though I agree with most of what he writes.
    I’ve been telling my friends for years that it is too late for white nationalists in North America. There are too many non-white citizens who have a higher birthrate than whites.
    Europe, however, still has a chance to preserve their white Europeanness if they act soon. They are in much better shape numerically than us.
    Which brings me to a subject that I haven’t heard much speculation about.
    The tipping point. As once white communities begin to ‘Turn’ whites typically begin to flee. This speeds up the process, and soon once middle-class neighborhoods become crowded lower class brownish ‘Hoods’. Look no further than the southern suburbs of Los Angeles for examples.
    Now, suppose the entire country reached a tipping point? As I type this Poland is offering incentives for whites from other European countries to move there. What if that idea spreads throughout Europe, and there becomes a bidding war of sorts for North American whites, who are spooked by the rising number of latinos? I know…it’s one thing to move to a different neighborhood, and quite another to move to an entirely different country, but think about the white mindset when the numbers get to say 2 to 1 in favor of Latinos, Asians, Blacks, etc. Especially for younger whites, the temptation to take a guaranteed job at a good wage in white Europe would be strong. And once it starts, if it does, there will be no choice for those who are not enthusiastic about it. They will be forced to flee or stay in ever increasing poverty.
    Think about how quickly it could happen once the tipping point is reached.

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  67. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I agree mass deporting Mexicans is politically not feasable. And that Mexicans are not as destructive as blacks.

    But, we already have too many uneducated unskilled workers. What happens when McDonald’s puts robots in all its stores and there are no jobs, even shitty jobs, for Mexicans? All these migrants will not think twice to vote money from my pocket to theirs or just start robbing people.

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    People may be naturally tribal, but they prefer material comfort above all.

    If you were given a choice of living in your nation where it’s cold and you’re without a coat OR living in a foreign nation where you have a heater and a coat, which will you likely choose? Pride and pain OR periphery and comfort?

    So, we have even hardcore Muslims coming to the West despite their cultural and tribal animus against America and EU. In choosing between tribal homeland(and poverty) and foreign land(and material plenty), they prefer the latter.

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  69. @RadicalCenter
    But India made a terrible mistake: almost nobody non-Muslim stayed in Pakistan, while many tens of millions of Muslims were foolishly allowed to stay in India. There are now, accordingly, well over TWO HUNDRED MILLION Muslims in India.

    We can't make a similar mistake with regard to non-whites staying in our part of the former USA -- let alone Africans or Muslims staying.

    Agreed. If the present United States is partitioned, the European-origin part needs to be at least 95% European-origin Americans. 98% would be even better. The only Muslims would be accredited diplomats of Muslim countries.

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  70. The alternative to expelling the illegals is colonisation by amnesty – a never-ending Groundhog Day of capitulations, each one setting off a Mestizo baby boom, with Americans being assured each time that this amnesty really is the last.

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    • Replies: @nsa
    The senile rat Reagan signed the 1986 Amnesty and basked in the praise of the vile democrats and the even more vile kosher media. The result: as of 2015, California is now only 38% non-hispanic white...and shrinking as whites flee the hordes of brown mendicants and the 13% state income tax.
  71. @Jason Bayz
    Is assimilation inevitable? Yes. Doesn't mean it won't make the American genotype dumber and browner, it will, but we'll accept it. But if it's inevitable, why worry about Trump's oozing with contempt? The assimilation will occur regardless, if it is so inevitable, the result of Whites finding Hispanics pretty. If you look at the history of assimilation, it is rarely conducted in an environment of pure equality. Throughout the waves of European immigration, assimilation occurred, but it occurred in an environment where it was unquestioned that America was founded, and would be thereafter culturally dominated, by WASPs. Oozing with contempt? You could call it that, certainly there were some WASPs who fit the bill. But hey, if they didn't like it, they could always go back to Ireland or Italy, and many did, and thus, my response to the Mexicans is the same.

    As for mass deportation, it's clearly possible. Fred treats 50,000 deportations a month as achievable, there were, in 2012, about 33,416 arrest in the USA per day. But it's really a strawman, as the way forward is attrition through enforcement against employers.

    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/persons-arrested/persons-arrested

    ”Is assimilation inevitable? Yes.”

    Assimilation for you is ”mixing race”**

    Because white americans have lived with black americans since a long time and little genotypical assimilation have happened.

    Cultural assimilation seems inevitable but genotypical assimilation is manageable.

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  72. @Chris Mallory
    In the five years following WW2, approximately 8 million Germans were expelled from the lands they were living in and returned to Germany. So, if that can happen in bombed out Eastern Europe, just imagine what we as Americans can do with those 11 million invaders. The trains can run 24/7/365 as far as I am concerned.

    As far as where they will sleep and what they will eat, when did the flotsam of Mexico become the responsibility of the American tax payer. Let them eat tortillas and beans.

    Typical Mexican woman that Fred thinks we want to mate with:
    https://saboteur365.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/funny-mexican-pictures-28-of-30.jpg

    In the five years following WW2, approximately 8 million Germans were expelled from the lands they were living in and returned to Germany

    True, and several hundred thousand (and possibly more than that) died in the process. Ethnic cleansing can be rather messy.

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  73. @Diversity Heretic
    You can turn a heterogeneous nation into a homogeneous one with lots and lots and lots of time. Britannia became England; Gaul became France. I don't know of any other way.

    Separation can happen suddenly and unexpectedly. How many people anticipated the breakup of the USSR? (I certainly didn't.) I wonder whether the model for the U.S. will be the partition of British India into India and Pakistan.

    I wonder whether the model for the U.S. will be the partition of British India into India and Pakistan.

    With a death toll of somewhere between half a million and one-and-a-half million.

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  74. @Jason Liu
    The alt-right won't like this, but Fred is right. There is no politically plausible way to deport all the illegals, let alone legal Latinos and other nonwhites, unless you're willing to go full fascist and shed blood. Even then you'd need overwhelming support from the 65% of whites in America, many of whom are leftists and mentally unfit.

    The only path for white nationalists is some kind of separatism, effectively ending the USA as you know it. But that's unlikely too. Homogenizing a country that's already this diverse without splitting into smaller states would be a first in history. The closest thing would be the departure of large Greek minorities from Turkey, or whites from Zimbabwe. But while they made up a large percentage of the host population, they did not number in the tens of millions. Raw numbers do make a difference when it comes to ethnic nationalism, because at a critical mass people will feel entitled to a piece of land.

    If you have practical means of homogenizing a nation, I'd like to hear it for future reference.

    The alt-right won’t like this, but Fred is right

    The alt-right won’t accept this reality because the alt-right is just as irrational as the SJWs. The alt-righters, like liberals, inhabit a fantasy world (a fantasy world populated by cartoon frogs).

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    • Replies: @Stonehands
    The alt rt is the reason the [[[establishment]]] got a great big FU on election day... Kekekek.
  75. Fred is very delusional when it comes to the Mexican presence in America. Opposition to them comes from the type of Mestizo we are getting and their behavior here and not simply because of their brown skin (oozing dark sludge).

    Just like Fidel Castro flushed the toilets of Cuba on America (his words), now Mexico is flushing their toilets of human detritus onto America and the effects are no longer possible to ignore.

    Most do not wish to assimilate, consider white people “oozing white sludge” and only wish to recreate Mexico inside the borders of America. Generally speaking, they are very tribalistic, nationalistic and averse towards non-Latino cultures which puts them at odds with the founding white racial stock and forever prevents most of them from fully or partially assimilating.

    Seventy percent consistently vote for the anti-white Democrats. They have higher violent crime rates and higher school drop out rate and sky high rates of gang association and activity, even more so than blacks.

    Freddy seems to forget the nationwide protests in 2005 in which American Mestizos (with help from the sympathetic jewsmedia) launched an all out offensive to intimidate the nation and public officials into granting them amnesty and special privileges. There were cases of the American flag being torn down, burned, hung upside down and the Mexican flag being raised in its stead.

    Let’s just say Mexican illegals made a lot of enemies out of white people who were formerly indifferent to their presence and the people who were against them now hate them with a passion.

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  76. @mukat
    Fred's a disgrace to his alma mater, Hampden–Sydney College.

    Because Fred likes Latina butts, we have to hand over our American patrimony to the Global South.

    Be glad he doesn’t like hijab wearing muzzie gals!

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  77. @Rob McX
    The alternative to expelling the illegals is colonisation by amnesty - a never-ending Groundhog Day of capitulations, each one setting off a Mestizo baby boom, with Americans being assured each time that this amnesty really is the last.

    The senile rat Reagan signed the 1986 Amnesty and basked in the praise of the vile democrats and the even more vile kosher media. The result: as of 2015, California is now only 38% non-hispanic white…and shrinking as whites flee the hordes of brown mendicants and the 13% state income tax.

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    No, nsa, Reagan wasn't senile. His problem was he trusted the scum in the US congress more than he trusted the Russians (It was the Soviet Union then). Reagan, and all Americans eventually, got screwed on that deal (security of the borders in return for a one-time (haha) amnesty). The 2nd one was the entire budget process, the welfare state was to be decreased as the military budgets increased - that didn't happen either.

    Do these jokers who comment in favor of Reed's biased view think that one more amnesty will do the trick? Why don't you just go down to the courthouse and legally change your name to Charlie Brown, and I'll change my gender and my name to Lucy, then, let's play some football!

    BTW, Fred's number 56,000,000 was probably of hispanics in general in the US. Nobody is speaking about deporting US citizens, Fred. However that number is probably only off by a factor of 2 for illegals. There are probably 25 - 40 million. No, we don't need a million buses - they can take multiple trips (haha, not completely serious as most will leave on their own as commenters have correctly noted).
  78. Fred, it makes sense that we should want to prevent the formation of a permanent underclass. But human nature includes evolutionary impulses, one of which is competition with the “other” over scarce resources. This impulse is immutable, and will stubbornly persist no matter what is tried.

    This is why race matters. It really doesn’t matter if racial differences are based on biology or are “merely” social constructs. Social constructs ARE a function of our biology. The end result is always the same.

    So yes, let those who are already here live in peace and gain upward mobility. But that begs the question: If everybody joins the middle class, who will mow our lawns, clean our toilets, change our kid’s diapers, and mop our floors? I guess when that happens we’ll need to import another underclass….. wash, rinse, repeat.

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  79. @RadicalCenter
    Many of us don't consider Mexico to be part of North America geographically or culturally. North America is the USA and Canada, just as NAFTA should be only the USA and Canada.

    “Many of us don’t consider Mexico to be part of North America geographically or culturally.”

    Who is this “many of us”? Would that be “good whites” or “bad whites”?

    “North America is the USA and Canada, just as NAFTA should be only the USA and Canada.”

    Wow, just wow.

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    Corvina sez: ...

    “North America is the USA and Canada, just as NAFTA should be only the USA and Canada.”

    Wow, just wow.


    Ms. Corvina:

    Please tell us why Mexico is part of North America.

    Wikipedia says:

    ... The term North America maintains various definitions in accordance with location and context. In Canadian English, North America may be used to refer to the United States and Canada together.[10] Alternatively, usage sometimes includes Greenland[11][12][13] and Mexico (as in the North American Free Trade Agreement),[12][14][15][16][17] as well as offshore islands. The UN geoscheme for "North America" separates Mexico from the United States and Canada, placing it instead within its designated "Central America" region, while also treating the islands of the Caribbean separately from the US/Canada definition—the UN's "North America" definition still includes the Canadian Arctic Archipelago and Greenland together with the US/Canada continental definition, with both insular entities being tectonically on the North American plate. ...
  80. NY Daily News has an op-ed today titled, “Broken windows vs Immigrants’ rights.” It’s not unusually scandalous, just typical in arguing that enforcing laws where illegal immigrant Mexicans are involved is a violation of their human rights.

    White Americans cannot expect to live in an ordered country if that inconveniences our Mexican invaders. And they find jumping turnstiles more convenient.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/broken-windows-immigrants-rights-article-1.2988292

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  81. @Thorfinnsson
    What a surprise...yet another article from Fred Reed cucking for spics.

    You're wrong in thinking we don't care about causing a humanitarian crisis in Mexico.

    For us that's a feature, not a bug.

    We hope that Mexico is ruined and that Mexicans suffer. This is righteous punishment for their presumption in assuming they have a right to colonize our country.

    You'd no doubt protest that it was our leaders who invited them here...and we'd be the first to join you in ordering our former leaders marched off the gang plank.

    But unlike you we didn't marry Mexicans so we're not inclined to cuck for them.

    Why do I get the suspicious feeling that you have zero white children?

    Let me guess, Asians are honorary Aryans, right?

    Paging John Derbyshire…

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  82. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Vato Mexicano
    Hi. First of all.
    I am sorry to those who doesn't like my written English but I am a Mexican living in Mexico and I would like to put a comment.

    As USA citizens you have the right to do whatever you want to do with your immigration laws or build a wall if in your mind that makes you feel safer avoiding that Mexican but in general Latinos cross the border or even send back to Mexico those who you called “bad hombres”. That will not end

    But to those who think that could avoid the Mexican presence in USA would be good idea to review our neighborhood history.
    We have always been here and we be always here because we lost the half of our territory due to your expansionism and the robbery you infringe to us helped for our internal battles at that times.
    That is the past and we can't change it for now.
    The reality is that what you called “brown wave” or any other offense you could say will not go to change the mexican presence.
    They are American citizens too. And at least you are preparing something like ghettos like for Mexicans, Chinese or any other human you don't like to mix like you already did in WWII with Japanese

    I have been in your country as employee, tourist and for shopping before our peso devaluation.
    You have a nice and beautiful modern country in which most of Mexican WONT like go to live but if we go is not to take your jobs is just to have a better income or at least a job.

    We hope a better times of neighborhood with USA.

    Hey Vato.

    I do respect your people’s and am familiar with how your country was robbed of territory, but keep in mind that Mexicans are an extremely racist people.

    You do know that Mexico ethnically cleansed the Chinese living on Mexican territory when the Chinese became too numerous and too successfull right?

    You do know that Mexico is basically a caste society where the light skinned Mexicans have all the wealth and appear on TV all the time, but dark skinned Mexicans all desparagingly called Indio and are being pushed out of your country right?

    You do realize that Mexicans rape 80% of the women who cross into Mexico to reach the American border right?

    You do realize that Mexican law descriminates against Americans by not letting us purchase land in Mexico close to the border, but no such law is on the books in America right?

    I am interested in how much of this you actually know.

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  83. @RadicalCenter
    He also has a very different concept of beauty than we do if he presents the women in the photo above as someone attractive to white men.

    Because you’re suddenly the representative of all white men.

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  84. I call bs on your analysis of the practicality of Trump’s program. Operation Wetback got rid of well over one million illegals in one year back in 1955 (see quote below). Strict enforcement of current US labor laws with stiff fines and imprisonment for employers who violate them and elimination of all welfare benefits for all illegals would cause a vast majority to self-deport.

    A recent “illegal aliens’ strike day” in Boston suggested that these criminals were stealing tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of jobs from local, native-born workers. The whine of local employers was that -gasp! – they would have to provide higher wages and better benefits to attract native-born workers and that this would – horror piled on horror!! – cut into their profit margins.

    Overall, there were 1,078,168 apprehensions made in the first year of Operation Wetback, with 170,000 being rounded up from May to July 1954. In addition, many illegal immigrants fled to Mexico fearing arrest; over half a million from Texas alone.[31] The total number of apprehensions would fall to just 242,608 in 1955, and would continuously decline by year until 1962, when there was a slight rise in apprehended workers.[32] Despite the decline in apprehensions, the total number of Border Patrol agents more than doubled to 1,692 by 1962, and an additional plane was also added to the force.[32]

    During the entirety of the Operation, border recruitment of illegal workers by American growers continued due largely to the low cost of illegal labor, and the desire of growers to avoid the bureaucratic obstacles of the Bracero program. The continuation of illegal immigration despite the efforts of Operation Wetback was largely responsible for the failure of the program.[33]

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  85. @rw95
    Because you're suddenly the representative of all white men.

    Nah, just the good looking ones.

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  86. since Fred has discovered that the solution to white racism (the only kind) is to blend away the white race – problem solved!

    why hasn’t he made that short leap to advocating the same obvious solution to that other intractable race problem; manifested by BLM?

    if the solution to white racism vis-a-vis Mexicans is to blend them with whites, then why not the same obvious solution when it comes to blacks?

    eh Fred?

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  87. @dfordoom

    I wonder whether the model for the U.S. will be the partition of British India into India and Pakistan.
     
    With a death toll of somewhere between half a million and one-and-a-half million.

    That’s precisely what concerns me.

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    "That’s precisely what concerns me."

    Americans are not going to partition the country, or engage in an all-out race war in which "good whites" will team up and violently overthrow darkies and their "bad white" friends, especially when all I hear is how today's white men are generally carbohydrate-intake valves fueled by low-T and video games.

    And we all know you are not going to be waging a one man jihad against the forces of Cultural Marxism and SJWism. That requires work and sacrifice on your part.

  88. Fred’s view of the alleged Mexican-haters is extreme. He exploits it to make his points about motives vs. what is supposedly inevitable.

    I’d say most whites with any grievances in this department simply prefer to associate with their own kind, and want to have that option for the future. Just like Latinos do. Of course these whites also reflect on the constant, endemic dysfunction of Latino culture in Miami, Anaheim, etc. It’s hard not to notice.

    “All of this would suggest that encouraging immigrants to move into the middle class might be a Real Good Idea.”

    Do they get their own waiting line or do they compete with the rest of us aiming for that same status? This is a ridiculous suggestion on multiple levels. No one arrives in the middle class by invitation.

    Maybe we can start by ensuring that Latinos arrive in the U.S. by invitation.

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  89. Maybe an attractive Latino girl would have a happier life in Mexico, staying close to family and traditions that keep her on the straight and narrow so as to make a good marriage with a young man whose intentions were relatively honorable.

    In the US she is perhaps likely to end up hating herself for being repeatedly used (and enjoying it). I am indeed suggesting that Latino women, not having hereditary biological adaptions to a relatively permissive culture, are likely to go off the rails sexually in the US, and become, sticking with your metaphor, a sludge pit–a fat one*. And a single mom too.

    My reasons for thinking the above:-

    PREVIOUS immigrant groups typically saw progress with each passing generation, but Hispanic numbers have a habit of stalling or even heading backwards. American-born children of Hispanic immigrants tend to be less healthy than their parents*, have higher divorce rates and go to jail more often. Jump from migrants’ children to their grandchildren, and studies have shown academic results slipping in the third generation. Conservatives fret about “downward assimilation” [...]Steve Murdock of Rice University, a former boss of the US Census bureau, recently published a paper warning Texans that Hispanics are not getting enough advanced degrees and qualifications to replace highly educated whites retiring from their state’s workforce. By 2050, his study predicts, Hispanic workers will outnumber white ones in Texas by almost three to one, but without a change in education policy the state will be poorer and less competitive.

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    "In the US she is perhaps likely to end up hating herself for being repeatedly used (and enjoying it)."

    Perhaps likely, huh. What percentages are we talking about here? And how do you specifically know about Latino women "enjoying" being used? Personal experience? Anecdotal evidence? Please enlighten us.

    "I am indeed suggesting that Latino women, not having hereditary biological adaptions to a relatively permissive culture.."

    So, you would have access to studies or reports as evidence of your assertion. I'm all ears...

    And here is the next paragraph conveniently left out. I do wonder what are the sources the author used in the paragraph you cited when making those generalizations. Perhaps you could be of assistance.

    "Some see such indicators as proof that foreigners from an alien culture have created a new underclass that must be pushed back. Such fears are overblown: many trends are heading in the right direction, albeit slowly. This report will visit schools working in innovative ways to improve Hispanic high-school graduation rates and to reduce teenage pregnancies. Many more Hispanics are enrolling in college—and still more would seek degrees if conservative politicians looked to the long term and changed state laws that make the children of unlawful migrants pay much more than their American classmates for a public college education. When one in four children in public schools is Hispanic, economic self-interest alone should prod states to get them ready for the 21st century."
    , @Alden
    Then Texas will get exactly what it deserves. California imports Chinese, Indians, Persians, Armenians, Russians and various Asians who have all the STEM administration and other jobs locked up.

    Agriculture is our biggest industry and they need to keep the low IQ welfare dependent farm workers.
  90. @Diversity Heretic
    That's precisely what concerns me.

    “That’s precisely what concerns me.”

    Americans are not going to partition the country, or engage in an all-out race war in which “good whites” will team up and violently overthrow darkies and their “bad white” friends, especially when all I hear is how today’s white men are generally carbohydrate-intake valves fueled by low-T and video games.

    And we all know you are not going to be waging a one man jihad against the forces of Cultural Marxism and SJWism. That requires work and sacrifice on your part.

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  91. Why, why, why do you write these articles, Fred. I ride a public transit bus daily and I am usually one of 3 white people to do so. On a bus filled with about 50 Immigrants, maybe 1 or 2 actually look near about as attractive as the young lady pictured in your article. My theory is this, good looking people don’t have to leave their home countries, because they are more successful than ugly people. The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical, don’t have chins nor necks and don’t even walk right. They don’t even like to walk, (except for the Chinese) probably because their feet and legs are all backwards and $#it!

    Also, I count my colonial ancestors (judging by portraits) amongst the ugly group. My sister and I apparently got a slight boost in the looks department by way of a Finnish grandfather.

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    The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical,
     
    I couldn't agree more. Many have asymmetrical facial features and almost look like they're the progeny of a cross breeding program between strange life forms or were put together from leftover body parts by a mad scientist.

    I see some out on the internet refer to them as "squat monsters" which is probably apropos, so whoever thought of that term should pat them-self on the back.
    , @Ron Unz

    The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical,
     
    Well, I dunno...

    I live in Palo Alto and since such a large fraction of all the local service employees are Latinos from an immigrant background, I'd guess they're close to half the people I interact with on a daily basis. Offhand, they look pretty "average" to me, though admittedly perhaps a bit on the "dumpy" side.

    Keep in mind that most first generation Latino immigrants probably grew up pretty poor and may have had a hard life, which certainly would impact the wear-and-tear of their appearance. Also, since they're generally still working-class or working-poor, they probably can't put in the time or effort to enhance their appearance by spending endless hours in gyms or beauty salons like middle-class or upper-middle-class Americans do these days. Don't forget that urban centers today tend to heavily consist of upper-middle-class whites/Asians and working-poor Latinos, thereby magnifying the apparent distinction.

    Back when I was a college undergrad in the Boston area, the local service employees were all working-class Irish and the contrast between their quite "lumpen" appearance and that of the much higher-class Ivy League students was very memorable to me at the time. I'll bet if you went down to the Central Valley today and found some working-poor whites, they'd look much more like their Latino peers.

    Finally, one thing I've noticed is that much younger Latinos, who were probably born here or came as young children, often look a bit different than their much older co-ethnics. Even if they grew up in poor families, poverty in the SF Bay Area is very different than poverty in rural Mexico, including possible childhood malnutrition.
  92. @Sean
    Maybe an attractive Latino girl would have a happier life in Mexico, staying close to family and traditions that keep her on the straight and narrow so as to make a good marriage with a young man whose intentions were relatively honorable.

    In the US she is perhaps likely to end up hating herself for being repeatedly used (and enjoying it). I am indeed suggesting that Latino women, not having hereditary biological adaptions to a relatively permissive culture, are likely to go off the rails sexually in the US, and become, sticking with your metaphor, a sludge pit--a fat one*. And a single mom too.

    My reasons for thinking the above:-


    PREVIOUS immigrant groups typically saw progress with each passing generation, but Hispanic numbers have a habit of stalling or even heading backwards. American-born children of Hispanic immigrants tend to be less healthy than their parents*, have higher divorce rates and go to jail more often. Jump from migrants’ children to their grandchildren, and studies have shown academic results slipping in the third generation. Conservatives fret about “downward assimilation” [...]Steve Murdock of Rice University, a former boss of the US Census bureau, recently published a paper warning Texans that Hispanics are not getting enough advanced degrees and qualifications to replace highly educated whites retiring from their state’s workforce. By 2050, his study predicts, Hispanic workers will outnumber white ones in Texas by almost three to one, but without a change in education policy the state will be poorer and less competitive.
     

    “In the US she is perhaps likely to end up hating herself for being repeatedly used (and enjoying it).”

    Perhaps likely, huh. What percentages are we talking about here? And how do you specifically know about Latino women “enjoying” being used? Personal experience? Anecdotal evidence? Please enlighten us.

    “I am indeed suggesting that Latino women, not having hereditary biological adaptions to a relatively permissive culture..”

    So, you would have access to studies or reports as evidence of your assertion. I’m all ears…

    And here is the next paragraph conveniently left out. I do wonder what are the sources the author used in the paragraph you cited when making those generalizations. Perhaps you could be of assistance.

    “Some see such indicators as proof that foreigners from an alien culture have created a new underclass that must be pushed back. Such fears are overblown: many trends are heading in the right direction, albeit slowly. This report will visit schools working in innovative ways to improve Hispanic high-school graduation rates and to reduce teenage pregnancies. Many more Hispanics are enrolling in college—and still more would seek degrees if conservative politicians looked to the long term and changed state laws that make the children of unlawful migrants pay much more than their American classmates for a public college education. When one in four children in public schools is Hispanic, economic self-interest alone should prod states to get them ready for the 21st century.”

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    If Mexican culture is as accepting of sexually promiscuity and over eating as US culture is, then Mexican girls who assimilate to US norms will not become, by Mexican standards, fat sluts. Fred Reed knows the US and Mexico very well, and it was he, not I, who said Mexican girls are going to be getting a lot of sex in the US. So address your remarks to him.

    From the paragraph you quote unused parts of the article I cite in what you imply is a refutation of my original points:-

    This report will visit schools working in innovative ways to improve Hispanic high-school graduation rates and to reduce teenage pregnancies.
     
    Hardly a refutation of the idea that Mexicans , under the influence of US culture, are sexually promiscuous underachievers. Like I said such girls would have been better staying in their homeland, where a stricter culture removes the need for a high degree of innate self control required for flourishing (being healthy happy and successful) amid American permissiveness.

    http://www.latinpost.com/articles/10384/20140411/hispanic-teens-continue-to-face-highest-rates-of-teen-pregnancies.htm

    They also have higher rates of obesity.
  93. @Michelle
    Why, why, why do you write these articles, Fred. I ride a public transit bus daily and I am usually one of 3 white people to do so. On a bus filled with about 50 Immigrants, maybe 1 or 2 actually look near about as attractive as the young lady pictured in your article. My theory is this, good looking people don't have to leave their home countries, because they are more successful than ugly people. The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical, don't have chins nor necks and don't even walk right. They don't even like to walk, (except for the Chinese) probably because their feet and legs are all backwards and $#it!

    Also, I count my colonial ancestors (judging by portraits) amongst the ugly group. My sister and I apparently got a slight boost in the looks department by way of a Finnish grandfather.

    The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical,

    I couldn’t agree more. Many have asymmetrical facial features and almost look like they’re the progeny of a cross breeding program between strange life forms or were put together from leftover body parts by a mad scientist.

    I see some out on the internet refer to them as “squat monsters” which is probably apropos, so whoever thought of that term should pat them-self on the back.

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    • Replies: @Michelle
    Yes! Here is an article in the NYT today and they have a pic accompanying the article of a Colombian immigrant. She is 37, but looks 57. She is pretty typical of the immigrants, legal and illegal, that I see on a daily basis.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/us/migrants-facing-old-deportation-orders.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav
  94. @KenH

    The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical,
     
    I couldn't agree more. Many have asymmetrical facial features and almost look like they're the progeny of a cross breeding program between strange life forms or were put together from leftover body parts by a mad scientist.

    I see some out on the internet refer to them as "squat monsters" which is probably apropos, so whoever thought of that term should pat them-self on the back.

    Yes! Here is an article in the NYT today and they have a pic accompanying the article of a Colombian immigrant. She is 37, but looks 57. She is pretty typical of the immigrants, legal and illegal, that I see on a daily basis.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/us/migrants-facing-old-deportation-orders.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav

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  95. @Michelle
    Why, why, why do you write these articles, Fred. I ride a public transit bus daily and I am usually one of 3 white people to do so. On a bus filled with about 50 Immigrants, maybe 1 or 2 actually look near about as attractive as the young lady pictured in your article. My theory is this, good looking people don't have to leave their home countries, because they are more successful than ugly people. The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical, don't have chins nor necks and don't even walk right. They don't even like to walk, (except for the Chinese) probably because their feet and legs are all backwards and $#it!

    Also, I count my colonial ancestors (judging by portraits) amongst the ugly group. My sister and I apparently got a slight boost in the looks department by way of a Finnish grandfather.

    The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical,

    Well, I dunno…

    I live in Palo Alto and since such a large fraction of all the local service employees are Latinos from an immigrant background, I’d guess they’re close to half the people I interact with on a daily basis. Offhand, they look pretty “average” to me, though admittedly perhaps a bit on the “dumpy” side.

    Keep in mind that most first generation Latino immigrants probably grew up pretty poor and may have had a hard life, which certainly would impact the wear-and-tear of their appearance. Also, since they’re generally still working-class or working-poor, they probably can’t put in the time or effort to enhance their appearance by spending endless hours in gyms or beauty salons like middle-class or upper-middle-class Americans do these days. Don’t forget that urban centers today tend to heavily consist of upper-middle-class whites/Asians and working-poor Latinos, thereby magnifying the apparent distinction.

    Back when I was a college undergrad in the Boston area, the local service employees were all working-class Irish and the contrast between their quite “lumpen” appearance and that of the much higher-class Ivy League students was very memorable to me at the time. I’ll bet if you went down to the Central Valley today and found some working-poor whites, they’d look much more like their Latino peers.

    Finally, one thing I’ve noticed is that much younger Latinos, who were probably born here or came as young children, often look a bit different than their much older co-ethnics. Even if they grew up in poor families, poverty in the SF Bay Area is very different than poverty in rural Mexico, including possible childhood malnutrition.

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    "Finally, one thing I’ve noticed is that much younger Latinos, who were probably born here or came as young children, often look a bit different than their much older co-ethnics. Even if they grew up in poor families, poverty in the SF Bay Area is very different than poverty in rural Mexico, including possible childhood malnutrition."

    I'll go further than that. There is something very odd about how the appearance of people has changed over the past half to whole century.

    If you look at old movies you see great big honking noses on tons of people, particularly those who were descended from recent European immigrants.

    Or while it it a stereotype, look at old pictures of black people. You will see the infamous saucer lip appearance of so many jokes and insults.

    So what happened? Intermarriage? Massive plastic surgery? Some aspect of the American environment causes the gene for a big honker to go dormant? Though it gets colder in a lot of American locations than it does in Western Europe, let alone Southern Europe. But why aren't actual Europeans sporting Jimmy Durantes these days?

    And that doesn't explain how the appearance of black people changed. If you think I am joking google up some old photos. Dunno, maybe there is a diet effect? I don't think most people from other parts of the country understand how integral Fatback was in the Southern diet for a long, long time. Not so much for direct consumption, but for cooking oil, seasoning, and as a fat source. I dunno. I'm more familiar with the old ways than most, and it wasn't really that long ago.

    And one other thing: there were a couple posts about the heavy indian ancestry immigrants looking like mutants or something.

    That goes both ways I guess. Personally I find someone with the metrosexual look repulsive. There's just something that raises my hackles.

    Then I take a look at the TV and they are everywhere.
    , @Michelle
    I guess you missed my point which was in rebuttal to Fred's trick of showing a pic of a winsome lass as a purported example of Latina immigrants. In the morning, I ride the bus with, Yemenis, Algerians, Nigerians, Eritreans (best looking of the bunch), Tibetans, Mongolians, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, a lovely, blind Japanese woman, Somalians, Mexicans, Panamanians, Guatamalans, Indians, Pakistanis, Native-Americans, Filipinos, one, real live, frizzy haired, Irish from Ireland, woman, named Bernadette who is cute because of her boots, hats and accent, but no great shakes in the looks department. I have recently been seeing a few Brazilians because a jiu-jitsu studio has opened up near the bus stop and the (white ish) Brazilians are stunningly good looking, partly because they are physically fit. I am sure that I missed a few nationalities but almost all of them are dumpy, frumpy, and as I wrote before, misshapen. Their kids, born here, do not look any better and are often, quite obese as Americans are likely to be.

    My Chinese supervisor says that in China, employment ads may ask for a tall, good looking person under the age of 35. Try that here in the US. Good enough reason to leave China if you are ugly.

    , @Dan Hayes
    Ron,

    In my NYC neighborhood of Rego Park there is a marked contrast between the dumpy appearance of Bukharian babushkas versus the svelte appearances of their daughters and granddaughters.
    , @wrd9
    The reality is that over 42% of hispanic women are obese in the US. Much more than white women. 77% of hispanics are overweight or obese. Fred's photo is absurd. This one is more like what hispanic women look like.

    http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/04/Illegal-women-with-signs-Yes-We-Can-with-DACA-DAPA-Pat-Sullivan-Associated-Press-640x480.jpg
  96. @Corvinus
    "Many of us don’t consider Mexico to be part of North America geographically or culturally."

    Who is this "many of us"? Would that be "good whites" or "bad whites"?

    "North America is the USA and Canada, just as NAFTA should be only the USA and Canada."

    Wow, just wow.

    Corvina sez:

    “North America is the USA and Canada, just as NAFTA should be only the USA and Canada.”

    Wow, just wow.

    Ms. Corvina:

    Please tell us why Mexico is part of North America.

    Wikipedia says:

    … The term North America maintains various definitions in accordance with location and context. In Canadian English, North America may be used to refer to the United States and Canada together.[10] Alternatively, usage sometimes includes Greenland[11][12][13] and Mexico (as in the North American Free Trade Agreement),[12][14][15][16][17] as well as offshore islands. The UN geoscheme for “North America” separates Mexico from the United States and Canada, placing it instead within its designated “Central America” region, while also treating the islands of the Caribbean separately from the US/Canada definition—the UN’s “North America” definition still includes the Canadian Arctic Archipelago and Greenland together with the US/Canada continental definition, with both insular entities being tectonically on the North American plate. …

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    "Ms. Corvina"

    It's sir, actually.

    "Please tell us why Mexico is part of North America."

    As your source clearly indicated, North America maintains various definitions in accordance with location and context. Mexico resides on the continent of North America. Central America is not a continent, but a region of North America.
  97. Pro-invasion commenters like Reed keep telling me that Americans won’t stand for what they would see if we deported large numbers of illegals, but I’m willing to try it and see if he’s right. My bet is that it won’t be a problem.

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  98. @dc.sunsets
    Mestizos have a home. It is NOT in North America.

    If conditions in North America become hostile enough, they will go home. For me, this IS my home. If I'm not here (USA), I'm on vacation somewhere. It's really that simple.

    I am far from alone in being upset that when I visit a local store it now looks like I was magically transported to Quintana Roo or somewhere equally "south." My local WalMart looks no less Mayan than did a visit to Sam Walton's big box in Downtown Cancun 15 years ago.

    An invasion without guns is still defined by the numbers (and concentration) of outsiders. The USA has been invaded and large parts of it are now Occupied Lands.

    Fred can take his sanctimony and ram it where the sigmoidoscopes don't shine. They have to go home, we can cook our own restaurant meals, pick our own crops and mow our own lawns.

    “Mestizos have a home. It is NOT in North America.”

    Just where, then, is the Mestizo’s home, Mexico?

    For your education, and this is coming from a Mestizo, better educated, it seems, than yourself:

    Mexico Is part of North America!

    And we ain’t leaving, been here in Colorado for 4 generations, been here before it was a territory of the United States.

    We ain’t leaving!

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  99. @Vato Mexicano
    Hi. First of all.
    I am sorry to those who doesn't like my written English but I am a Mexican living in Mexico and I would like to put a comment.

    As USA citizens you have the right to do whatever you want to do with your immigration laws or build a wall if in your mind that makes you feel safer avoiding that Mexican but in general Latinos cross the border or even send back to Mexico those who you called “bad hombres”. That will not end

    But to those who think that could avoid the Mexican presence in USA would be good idea to review our neighborhood history.
    We have always been here and we be always here because we lost the half of our territory due to your expansionism and the robbery you infringe to us helped for our internal battles at that times.
    That is the past and we can't change it for now.
    The reality is that what you called “brown wave” or any other offense you could say will not go to change the mexican presence.
    They are American citizens too. And at least you are preparing something like ghettos like for Mexicans, Chinese or any other human you don't like to mix like you already did in WWII with Japanese

    I have been in your country as employee, tourist and for shopping before our peso devaluation.
    You have a nice and beautiful modern country in which most of Mexican WONT like go to live but if we go is not to take your jobs is just to have a better income or at least a job.

    We hope a better times of neighborhood with USA.

    “We have always been here and we be always here because we lost the half of our territory due to your expansionism and the robbery you infringe to us”

    Many here would reply like this:” Nope. Like most Mexicans and many in the US you’ve been brainwashed by nationalist or far-Left propaganda.

    Parts of Mexico seceded fair and square. They were invaded by the crooks running the country, who lost. They stupidly attacked the US, then really lost. At the end most of Mexico had seceded and was trying to join the US. The US unwisely only took half. It should have taken them all plus also most of the nations up to Columbia who tried to join the US in those days IMHO and so we wouldn’t be debating this mess.

    Most of the Mexican illegals the people complain about here are far-Leftists, proud ignoramuses, and thugs, or simply damaged people victims of the economic disasters of the far-Left.

    You called yourself a United States of Mexico. Act like one. Fix your country. That is the attitude of many in the USA. The Libertarians in your country have the right idea: be a good neighbor– Fix your house, not let your domestic abuse overrun into our backyard.”

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    RobRich, this is for you and the "many here would reply" you conjure up to support your silly comments.

    Muchacho you say "Parts of Mexico seceded fair and square. They were invaded by the crooks running the country, who lost."

    What part of Mexico ceded fair and square? You can't mean Texas, which was overwhelmed by immigrants from American, and then stolen. Mexico's crooks lost to the US crooks.

    "They stupidly attacked the US, then really lost."

    Spoken like a true, ignorant, imperialist thug. Just who attacked who? According to Ulysses S Grant (victorious Union General, US President) the war was "one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to acquire additional territory."

    It sounds like you get your facts from John Wayne's Hollywood, esse. The US is in a sorry state (terrible debt, perpetual war, possible class warefare) and you scold a Mexican about his country?

    The Latinos in this country will survive Trump and people like you, we ain't going anywhere. this is our home.

  100. @Ron Unz

    The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical,
     
    Well, I dunno...

    I live in Palo Alto and since such a large fraction of all the local service employees are Latinos from an immigrant background, I'd guess they're close to half the people I interact with on a daily basis. Offhand, they look pretty "average" to me, though admittedly perhaps a bit on the "dumpy" side.

    Keep in mind that most first generation Latino immigrants probably grew up pretty poor and may have had a hard life, which certainly would impact the wear-and-tear of their appearance. Also, since they're generally still working-class or working-poor, they probably can't put in the time or effort to enhance their appearance by spending endless hours in gyms or beauty salons like middle-class or upper-middle-class Americans do these days. Don't forget that urban centers today tend to heavily consist of upper-middle-class whites/Asians and working-poor Latinos, thereby magnifying the apparent distinction.

    Back when I was a college undergrad in the Boston area, the local service employees were all working-class Irish and the contrast between their quite "lumpen" appearance and that of the much higher-class Ivy League students was very memorable to me at the time. I'll bet if you went down to the Central Valley today and found some working-poor whites, they'd look much more like their Latino peers.

    Finally, one thing I've noticed is that much younger Latinos, who were probably born here or came as young children, often look a bit different than their much older co-ethnics. Even if they grew up in poor families, poverty in the SF Bay Area is very different than poverty in rural Mexico, including possible childhood malnutrition.

    “Finally, one thing I’ve noticed is that much younger Latinos, who were probably born here or came as young children, often look a bit different than their much older co-ethnics. Even if they grew up in poor families, poverty in the SF Bay Area is very different than poverty in rural Mexico, including possible childhood malnutrition.”

    I’ll go further than that. There is something very odd about how the appearance of people has changed over the past half to whole century.

    If you look at old movies you see great big honking noses on tons of people, particularly those who were descended from recent European immigrants.

    Or while it it a stereotype, look at old pictures of black people. You will see the infamous saucer lip appearance of so many jokes and insults.

    So what happened? Intermarriage? Massive plastic surgery? Some aspect of the American environment causes the gene for a big honker to go dormant? Though it gets colder in a lot of American locations than it does in Western Europe, let alone Southern Europe. But why aren’t actual Europeans sporting Jimmy Durantes these days?

    And that doesn’t explain how the appearance of black people changed. If you think I am joking google up some old photos. Dunno, maybe there is a diet effect? I don’t think most people from other parts of the country understand how integral Fatback was in the Southern diet for a long, long time. Not so much for direct consumption, but for cooking oil, seasoning, and as a fat source. I dunno. I’m more familiar with the old ways than most, and it wasn’t really that long ago.

    And one other thing: there were a couple posts about the heavy indian ancestry immigrants looking like mutants or something.

    That goes both ways I guess. Personally I find someone with the metrosexual look repulsive. There’s just something that raises my hackles.

    Then I take a look at the TV and they are everywhere.

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    Good points:

    If you look at old movies you see great big honking noses on tons of people, particularly those who were descended from recent European immigrants.
     
    A lot of the distinctive characteristics that we knew in our grand parents and their generation, disappear when cross bred out of their own native groups. Along with the prominent proboscises like the Schnoz had, there's a bunch of other features you don't see too much. The hands like baseball mitts and heavy boned structure of Northern Europeans drops out pretty fast.
    Other refined facial and body type features also seem to be dependent on some degree of inter breeding that is maintained in a nation or region protected from todays complete helter skelter mixing. Just talking about crossing from within whites, if you cross racially, how can you really see what is missing?
    In which cases somebody can see that the child is half/half but the finer points/features, sometimes look out of place, like one of those esteemed honkers on a hapless Euro-asian hybrid boy, or girl… ! These features of note, exist in all the races too, so everybody can be disappointed.

    _______________________

    Tats, Nose rings; making an ear into a big loop thing, what next? metro sexual perverts is right.

    Personally I find someone with the metrosexual look repulsive. There’s just something that raises my hackles.
     

    […Then I take a look at the TV…]
     
    All junk, between adds, you get nothin' but crap. Modern Family, with big fat twinkletoes mincing and lisping nonstop. There's another program with the most disgusting bunch of teen agers from metroland… every word the kid says sounds like Paul Lind or some shit.
  101. According to Fred on Everything, whites and particularly white nationalists are intolerant, pea brained reprobates for not accepting the tens of millions of his beloved mestizos. But perhaps the sentiment of some of their leaders is a big reason why:

    “Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over.” — Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets

    “We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it!” — Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas at Arlington

    “Remember 187–proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens–was the last gasp of white America in California.” — Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party
    Note: And it was.

    “We are practicing ‘La Reconquista’ in California.” – Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General

    “We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos.” — Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University

    “Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes,”
    Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas at Arlington

    http://www.americanpatrol.com/04-FEATURES/040416-GUTIERREZ/PaleSkinBlueEyes.html

    And these quotes of interracial fellowship are from the supposed “good” Mexicans who have legal status. Then Freddy wonders why so many whites are apprehensive about allowing the upwards of 30 million illegal aliens to stay in this country and/or become legal.

    Would Mexico tolerate millions of poor whites living illegally in their nation and demand special rights and privileges and rewrite their history? Would Mexican doctors deliver all of their babies free of charge like we do for them?

    And on top of that tolerate these same whites publicly gloating over the seeming demise of the mestizo majority and intimating that they will resort to violence to expedite this trend?

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    • Replies: @TheBoom
    Fred is very astute on almost anything that doesn't involve Mexico or Mexicans. You have to be willfully ignorant - or dedicated to not noticing - to not notice that most of the animosity has been directed against whites, not by whites against others. Case in point: Jorge Ramos saying to Mexicans that "American is our country, not theirs."
    , @JohnDough
    It would be great if Mexico took back Southern California! First all the illegals would leave to go to the USA since social services and higher salaries would cease. Legalized immigrants would also go since they came to the US to begin with.

    There would be no labor laws so I could hire lots of cheap labor Mexican citizens just like Americans living in Mexico do, right Fred? That's because I'm guessing there aren't minimum wage laws there.

    My pharmaceutical prescriptions would cost a fraction of what they do now plus I could self prescribe. No more expensive property taxes. I could actually own my own home. Legal fees would drop from thousands of dollars for a maybe to a couple of twenty's for a yes. There would be no building or land use codes so I could do my own repairs and renovations, build another home and work space on my property or since I'm retired open a store or taco stand in front of my house to make extra cash.

    Collecting cars would no longer be a problem. I could just park them and work on them in the front yard. Farm animals and gardens, no problemo! No or far lower taxes! The perks go on.
  102. @RobRich
    "We have always been here and we be always here because we lost the half of our territory due to your expansionism and the robbery you infringe to us"

    Many here would reply like this:" Nope. Like most Mexicans and many in the US you've been brainwashed by nationalist or far-Left propaganda.

    Parts of Mexico seceded fair and square. They were invaded by the crooks running the country, who lost. They stupidly attacked the US, then really lost. At the end most of Mexico had seceded and was trying to join the US. The US unwisely only took half. It should have taken them all plus also most of the nations up to Columbia who tried to join the US in those days IMHO and so we wouldn't be debating this mess.

    Most of the Mexican illegals the people complain about here are far-Leftists, proud ignoramuses, and thugs, or simply damaged people victims of the economic disasters of the far-Left.

    You called yourself a United States of Mexico. Act like one. Fix your country. That is the attitude of many in the USA. The Libertarians in your country have the right idea: be a good neighbor-- Fix your house, not let your domestic abuse overrun into our backyard."

    RobRich, this is for you and the “many here would reply” you conjure up to support your silly comments.

    Muchacho you say “Parts of Mexico seceded fair and square. They were invaded by the crooks running the country, who lost.”

    What part of Mexico ceded fair and square? You can’t mean Texas, which was overwhelmed by immigrants from American, and then stolen. Mexico’s crooks lost to the US crooks.

    “They stupidly attacked the US, then really lost.”

    Spoken like a true, ignorant, imperialist thug. Just who attacked who? According to Ulysses S Grant (victorious Union General, US President) the war was “one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to acquire additional territory.”

    It sounds like you get your facts from John Wayne’s Hollywood, esse. The US is in a sorry state (terrible debt, perpetual war, possible class warefare) and you scold a Mexican about his country?

    The Latinos in this country will survive Trump and people like you, we ain’t going anywhere. this is our home.

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    The Latinos in this country will survive Trump and people like you, we ain’t going anywhere.
     
    Have you not been following the news? Deportations are skyrocketing and latinos are living in constant fear. Your community has responded by... doing nothing. White liberals are making more noise than your sorry lot are.

    I've always hated your people, but now I am just embarrassed for you guys.
    , @gustafus
    Mexico OPENLY hates its brown people. A cursory examination of the TV, or government shows only whites need apply. Anybody checked out Miss Mexico lately?

    Mexico has an abundance of small Amer indio or Mayan breeders with an IQ below 90. This bursting population isn't capable of self governance. 600 million of em want welfare and food stamps because they cannot do for themselves even if Mexico and Latin America wasn't a racist sewer.

    Below an IQ of 90, blacks, hispanics, and inbred Muslims [see Malveaux on inbred Islam] cannot defer gratification, control harmful urges including r strategy breeding like roaches, or resolve conflict without violence.

    White America is increasingly racist because the mean IQ of the nation is plummeting. Nothing less than Western Civilization is at stake.

    I remember touring Peruvian ruins and comparing and contrasting the relative advances between Inca and European architecture. The cathedrals of Europe were built when Incans hadn't figured out that rocks roll down hill. HEY>>>> how about a wheel!!

    Ditto for Africans. and now Catholic charities ask us to FEED THE CHILDREN?

    Not on your life. Or the life of the birds, butterflies, lions, tigers and bears ..... Every live African or Latin American birth means death to something or someone else.

    We had better steel ourselves for what must come. These worthless breeders must be stopped.

    It's just too bad the guy with the funny mustache tried it with the wrong demographic. Now when we need extermination... it's still enjoying bad press.
  103. @David Davenport
    Corvina sez: ...

    “North America is the USA and Canada, just as NAFTA should be only the USA and Canada.”

    Wow, just wow.


    Ms. Corvina:

    Please tell us why Mexico is part of North America.

    Wikipedia says:

    ... The term North America maintains various definitions in accordance with location and context. In Canadian English, North America may be used to refer to the United States and Canada together.[10] Alternatively, usage sometimes includes Greenland[11][12][13] and Mexico (as in the North American Free Trade Agreement),[12][14][15][16][17] as well as offshore islands. The UN geoscheme for "North America" separates Mexico from the United States and Canada, placing it instead within its designated "Central America" region, while also treating the islands of the Caribbean separately from the US/Canada definition—the UN's "North America" definition still includes the Canadian Arctic Archipelago and Greenland together with the US/Canada continental definition, with both insular entities being tectonically on the North American plate. ...

    “Ms. Corvina”

    It’s sir, actually.

    “Please tell us why Mexico is part of North America.”

    As your source clearly indicated, North America maintains various definitions in accordance with location and context. Mexico resides on the continent of North America. Central America is not a continent, but a region of North America.

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    • Replies: @Stonehands
    I've never heard a Mexican refer to their country as "Norte America." That is a description reserved exclusively for the gringos...You are a typical bookish SJW making observations from an ivory tower.
  104. @Ron Unz

    The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical,
     
    Well, I dunno...

    I live in Palo Alto and since such a large fraction of all the local service employees are Latinos from an immigrant background, I'd guess they're close to half the people I interact with on a daily basis. Offhand, they look pretty "average" to me, though admittedly perhaps a bit on the "dumpy" side.

    Keep in mind that most first generation Latino immigrants probably grew up pretty poor and may have had a hard life, which certainly would impact the wear-and-tear of their appearance. Also, since they're generally still working-class or working-poor, they probably can't put in the time or effort to enhance their appearance by spending endless hours in gyms or beauty salons like middle-class or upper-middle-class Americans do these days. Don't forget that urban centers today tend to heavily consist of upper-middle-class whites/Asians and working-poor Latinos, thereby magnifying the apparent distinction.

    Back when I was a college undergrad in the Boston area, the local service employees were all working-class Irish and the contrast between their quite "lumpen" appearance and that of the much higher-class Ivy League students was very memorable to me at the time. I'll bet if you went down to the Central Valley today and found some working-poor whites, they'd look much more like their Latino peers.

    Finally, one thing I've noticed is that much younger Latinos, who were probably born here or came as young children, often look a bit different than their much older co-ethnics. Even if they grew up in poor families, poverty in the SF Bay Area is very different than poverty in rural Mexico, including possible childhood malnutrition.

    I guess you missed my point which was in rebuttal to Fred’s trick of showing a pic of a winsome lass as a purported example of Latina immigrants. In the morning, I ride the bus with, Yemenis, Algerians, Nigerians, Eritreans (best looking of the bunch), Tibetans, Mongolians, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, a lovely, blind Japanese woman, Somalians, Mexicans, Panamanians, Guatamalans, Indians, Pakistanis, Native-Americans, Filipinos, one, real live, frizzy haired, Irish from Ireland, woman, named Bernadette who is cute because of her boots, hats and accent, but no great shakes in the looks department. I have recently been seeing a few Brazilians because a jiu-jitsu studio has opened up near the bus stop and the (white ish) Brazilians are stunningly good looking, partly because they are physically fit. I am sure that I missed a few nationalities but almost all of them are dumpy, frumpy, and as I wrote before, misshapen. Their kids, born here, do not look any better and are often, quite obese as Americans are likely to be.

    My Chinese supervisor says that in China, employment ads may ask for a tall, good looking person under the age of 35. Try that here in the US. Good enough reason to leave China if you are ugly.

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  105. @Ron Unz

    The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical,
     
    Well, I dunno...

    I live in Palo Alto and since such a large fraction of all the local service employees are Latinos from an immigrant background, I'd guess they're close to half the people I interact with on a daily basis. Offhand, they look pretty "average" to me, though admittedly perhaps a bit on the "dumpy" side.

    Keep in mind that most first generation Latino immigrants probably grew up pretty poor and may have had a hard life, which certainly would impact the wear-and-tear of their appearance. Also, since they're generally still working-class or working-poor, they probably can't put in the time or effort to enhance their appearance by spending endless hours in gyms or beauty salons like middle-class or upper-middle-class Americans do these days. Don't forget that urban centers today tend to heavily consist of upper-middle-class whites/Asians and working-poor Latinos, thereby magnifying the apparent distinction.

    Back when I was a college undergrad in the Boston area, the local service employees were all working-class Irish and the contrast between their quite "lumpen" appearance and that of the much higher-class Ivy League students was very memorable to me at the time. I'll bet if you went down to the Central Valley today and found some working-poor whites, they'd look much more like their Latino peers.

    Finally, one thing I've noticed is that much younger Latinos, who were probably born here or came as young children, often look a bit different than their much older co-ethnics. Even if they grew up in poor families, poverty in the SF Bay Area is very different than poverty in rural Mexico, including possible childhood malnutrition.

    Ron,

    In my NYC neighborhood of Rego Park there is a marked contrast between the dumpy appearance of Bukharian babushkas versus the svelte appearances of their daughters and granddaughters.

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  106. @Corvinus
    "In the US she is perhaps likely to end up hating herself for being repeatedly used (and enjoying it)."

    Perhaps likely, huh. What percentages are we talking about here? And how do you specifically know about Latino women "enjoying" being used? Personal experience? Anecdotal evidence? Please enlighten us.

    "I am indeed suggesting that Latino women, not having hereditary biological adaptions to a relatively permissive culture.."

    So, you would have access to studies or reports as evidence of your assertion. I'm all ears...

    And here is the next paragraph conveniently left out. I do wonder what are the sources the author used in the paragraph you cited when making those generalizations. Perhaps you could be of assistance.

    "Some see such indicators as proof that foreigners from an alien culture have created a new underclass that must be pushed back. Such fears are overblown: many trends are heading in the right direction, albeit slowly. This report will visit schools working in innovative ways to improve Hispanic high-school graduation rates and to reduce teenage pregnancies. Many more Hispanics are enrolling in college—and still more would seek degrees if conservative politicians looked to the long term and changed state laws that make the children of unlawful migrants pay much more than their American classmates for a public college education. When one in four children in public schools is Hispanic, economic self-interest alone should prod states to get them ready for the 21st century."

    If Mexican culture is as accepting of sexually promiscuity and over eating as US culture is, then Mexican girls who assimilate to US norms will not become, by Mexican standards, fat sluts. Fred Reed knows the US and Mexico very well, and it was he, not I, who said Mexican girls are going to be getting a lot of sex in the US. So address your remarks to him.

    From the paragraph you quote unused parts of the article I cite in what you imply is a refutation of my original points:-

    This report will visit schools working in innovative ways to improve Hispanic high-school graduation rates and to reduce teenage pregnancies.

    Hardly a refutation of the idea that Mexicans , under the influence of US culture, are sexually promiscuous underachievers. Like I said such girls would have been better staying in their homeland, where a stricter culture removes the need for a high degree of innate self control required for flourishing (being healthy happy and successful) amid American permissiveness.

    http://www.latinpost.com/articles/10384/20140411/hispanic-teens-continue-to-face-highest-rates-of-teen-pregnancies.htm

    They also have higher rates of obesity.

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    Mexican girls who have a large percentage of Native-American DNA are built physically along the lines of Yosemite Sam and the Tasmanian Devil! Huge upper bodies, with no discernable waist lines and short bowed legs, with flat behinds. Some of them have triple muffin tops, which they notoriously cram into skinny jean. Hate facts, but facts nonetheless! This is in no way meant to detract from their worth as human beings as I find them to be excellent mothers and citizens.
  107. @Sean
    If Mexican culture is as accepting of sexually promiscuity and over eating as US culture is, then Mexican girls who assimilate to US norms will not become, by Mexican standards, fat sluts. Fred Reed knows the US and Mexico very well, and it was he, not I, who said Mexican girls are going to be getting a lot of sex in the US. So address your remarks to him.

    From the paragraph you quote unused parts of the article I cite in what you imply is a refutation of my original points:-

    This report will visit schools working in innovative ways to improve Hispanic high-school graduation rates and to reduce teenage pregnancies.
     
    Hardly a refutation of the idea that Mexicans , under the influence of US culture, are sexually promiscuous underachievers. Like I said such girls would have been better staying in their homeland, where a stricter culture removes the need for a high degree of innate self control required for flourishing (being healthy happy and successful) amid American permissiveness.

    http://www.latinpost.com/articles/10384/20140411/hispanic-teens-continue-to-face-highest-rates-of-teen-pregnancies.htm

    They also have higher rates of obesity.

    Mexican girls who have a large percentage of Native-American DNA are built physically along the lines of Yosemite Sam and the Tasmanian Devil! Huge upper bodies, with no discernable waist lines and short bowed legs, with flat behinds. Some of them have triple muffin tops, which they notoriously cram into skinny jean. Hate facts, but facts nonetheless! This is in no way meant to detract from their worth as human beings as I find them to be excellent mothers and citizens.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    They look like barrels with sticks for legs.
    , @Ron Unz

    Mexican girls who have a large percentage of Native-American DNA are built physically along the lines of Yosemite Sam and the Tasmanian Devil! Huge upper bodies, with no discernable waist lines and short bowed legs, with flat behinds.
     
    Actually, my impression is that there was a pretty wide dispersion of phenotypes among the various Amerind tribes South of the Border, even leaving aside the differing amounts of European admixture.

    I think many Guatemalans tend to be squat much like you're saying, as well as those far southern Mexicans of closely-related ancestry. But lots of other Mexicans, even when mostly Amerind, tend to have a wide variety of different body-shapes, just as there is a good deal of variation among all the different European peoples. Admittedly, I've never seen any actual study on this matter, but that's my impression.
    , @Sean
    My point was not that the lower classes are stocky and chubby (this is true in every country in the world) but rather that a genetically nice figured Mexican ancestry girl would be likely to get fat if brought up in the US, because in Mexico the culture does the work of genetic adaptations for self control. They, and especially their children, are not going to have a better life in the US (in respect of the things that matter). Unless they are allowed to have their own separate culture
  108. It seems a few people think that after 2-3 generations some third world immigrant groups will magically shed their morlock appearance and resemble GQ and runway models. So not only is the US of A home to magic dirt we also have magic food and water, too!

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    • Replies: @Michelle
    Heck yeah! The Asians are getting taller, that is true, because they are not genetically short, but the Latinos are just getting fatter, due to bad habits in regards to dietal choices.
  109. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Michelle
    Mexican girls who have a large percentage of Native-American DNA are built physically along the lines of Yosemite Sam and the Tasmanian Devil! Huge upper bodies, with no discernable waist lines and short bowed legs, with flat behinds. Some of them have triple muffin tops, which they notoriously cram into skinny jean. Hate facts, but facts nonetheless! This is in no way meant to detract from their worth as human beings as I find them to be excellent mothers and citizens.

    They look like barrels with sticks for legs.

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    • Replies: @Michelle
    Yes, and unfortunately they don't wear the appropriate clothing for barrel bodies, but tend towards clothing more suited for those with more proportionate bodies.
  110. @Michelle
    Mexican girls who have a large percentage of Native-American DNA are built physically along the lines of Yosemite Sam and the Tasmanian Devil! Huge upper bodies, with no discernable waist lines and short bowed legs, with flat behinds. Some of them have triple muffin tops, which they notoriously cram into skinny jean. Hate facts, but facts nonetheless! This is in no way meant to detract from their worth as human beings as I find them to be excellent mothers and citizens.

    Mexican girls who have a large percentage of Native-American DNA are built physically along the lines of Yosemite Sam and the Tasmanian Devil! Huge upper bodies, with no discernable waist lines and short bowed legs, with flat behinds.

    Actually, my impression is that there was a pretty wide dispersion of phenotypes among the various Amerind tribes South of the Border, even leaving aside the differing amounts of European admixture.

    I think many Guatemalans tend to be squat much like you’re saying, as well as those far southern Mexicans of closely-related ancestry. But lots of other Mexicans, even when mostly Amerind, tend to have a wide variety of different body-shapes, just as there is a good deal of variation among all the different European peoples. Admittedly, I’ve never seen any actual study on this matter, but that’s my impression.

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    • Replies: @Michelle
    I disagree with you entirely on this point. There is amazing similarity amongst phenotypes in Native-Americans south of the border. The only physical differences occur because of European admixtures and the degrees thereof. I see where your loyalties lie and I agree that many Latinos are worthy of admiration and very likeable, but that does not solve the problem of displacement of white and Black workers, which is my primary concern.
  111. @KenH
    It seems a few people think that after 2-3 generations some third world immigrant groups will magically shed their morlock appearance and resemble GQ and runway models. So not only is the US of A home to magic dirt we also have magic food and water, too!

    Heck yeah! The Asians are getting taller, that is true, because they are not genetically short, but the Latinos are just getting fatter, due to bad habits in regards to dietal choices.

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  112. @Ron Unz

    Mexican girls who have a large percentage of Native-American DNA are built physically along the lines of Yosemite Sam and the Tasmanian Devil! Huge upper bodies, with no discernable waist lines and short bowed legs, with flat behinds.
     
    Actually, my impression is that there was a pretty wide dispersion of phenotypes among the various Amerind tribes South of the Border, even leaving aside the differing amounts of European admixture.

    I think many Guatemalans tend to be squat much like you're saying, as well as those far southern Mexicans of closely-related ancestry. But lots of other Mexicans, even when mostly Amerind, tend to have a wide variety of different body-shapes, just as there is a good deal of variation among all the different European peoples. Admittedly, I've never seen any actual study on this matter, but that's my impression.

    I disagree with you entirely on this point. There is amazing similarity amongst phenotypes in Native-Americans south of the border. The only physical differences occur because of European admixtures and the degrees thereof. I see where your loyalties lie and I agree that many Latinos are worthy of admiration and very likeable, but that does not solve the problem of displacement of white and Black workers, which is my primary concern.

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  113. @Anon
    They look like barrels with sticks for legs.

    Yes, and unfortunately they don’t wear the appropriate clothing for barrel bodies, but tend towards clothing more suited for those with more proportionate bodies.

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  114. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Yep. I remember a few years back when someone mentioned that I didn't seem particularly patriotic. While I mumble something to him, inside I was hit by the realization that I simply had zero loyalty to the United States. My loyalty was to my people, and the United States certainly did not represent them.

    Since then, I've come to understand the minority mentality. This government, this society isn't mine. It's just a bunch of rules made up by people I don't like and who absolutely hate me. If I can get away with breaking those rules to help me, my family or my people, I will.

    If even a small minority of whites - say 20% or more - start to think like me, I'm not sure how things hold together. Can even a Brazil of the North exist with such little social cohesion? I don't know.

    I feel as you do. I absolutely hate this country for what it has done and will continue to do to Whites.
    I also think Whites should do what the Chinese and other successful people do, lie, cheat, steal and evade taxes.

    Last time looked at the DOJ website, the fine for employing illegal aliens was $3,000, less than a third of what it was in the 1950s.

    Going after criminal illegals is great PR. It enrages liberals and makes Trump voters feel better.

    But when is Trump going to go after Tyson, Perdue, Foster Farms, Armour, Oscar Mayer, Farmer John and the entire food industry? Probably never

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  115. Nothing wrong with Mexicans. Nothing wrong with legal immigrants. The illegality is what needs to stop. It creates an untouchable caste system, creates contempt for the law, undermines labor and promotes identity theft criminality and tax evasion. Whomever allowed it was either crazy or an exploiter. Recall Cesar Chavez of the mostly Latino United Farmworkers was no fan of illegal immigration which he correctly saw as a fatal wound against fair labor practice.

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Their is something wrong with nonwhite Asian Legal Immigrants and their US born children....they are a different racial kind...and they are highly RACIALIZED Democratic Party Voters.
  116. Fred has it backwards. It isn’t the alt-Right that is trying to divide the country into hostile groups. It is the left that has pushed identity politics with whites – especially, white males – as the enemy as seen with calls for white genocide and chants of white privilege.

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  117. @Sean
    Maybe an attractive Latino girl would have a happier life in Mexico, staying close to family and traditions that keep her on the straight and narrow so as to make a good marriage with a young man whose intentions were relatively honorable.

    In the US she is perhaps likely to end up hating herself for being repeatedly used (and enjoying it). I am indeed suggesting that Latino women, not having hereditary biological adaptions to a relatively permissive culture, are likely to go off the rails sexually in the US, and become, sticking with your metaphor, a sludge pit--a fat one*. And a single mom too.

    My reasons for thinking the above:-


    PREVIOUS immigrant groups typically saw progress with each passing generation, but Hispanic numbers have a habit of stalling or even heading backwards. American-born children of Hispanic immigrants tend to be less healthy than their parents*, have higher divorce rates and go to jail more often. Jump from migrants’ children to their grandchildren, and studies have shown academic results slipping in the third generation. Conservatives fret about “downward assimilation” [...]Steve Murdock of Rice University, a former boss of the US Census bureau, recently published a paper warning Texans that Hispanics are not getting enough advanced degrees and qualifications to replace highly educated whites retiring from their state’s workforce. By 2050, his study predicts, Hispanic workers will outnumber white ones in Texas by almost three to one, but without a change in education policy the state will be poorer and less competitive.
     

    Then Texas will get exactly what it deserves. California imports Chinese, Indians, Persians, Armenians, Russians and various Asians who have all the STEM administration and other jobs locked up.

    Agriculture is our biggest industry and they need to keep the low IQ welfare dependent farm workers.

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    • Replies: @Sean
    A new wave every generation, because the immigrant's children won't do that work, they'll go on welfare.
  118. @KenH
    According to Fred on Everything, whites and particularly white nationalists are intolerant, pea brained reprobates for not accepting the tens of millions of his beloved mestizos. But perhaps the sentiment of some of their leaders is a big reason why:

    "Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over." -- Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets

    "We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it!" -- Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas at Arlington

    "Remember 187--proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens--was the last gasp of white America in California." -- Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party
    Note: And it was.

    "We are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California." -- Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General

    "We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos." -- Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University

    "Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes,"
    Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas at Arlington
    http://www.americanpatrol.com/04-FEATURES/040416-GUTIERREZ/PaleSkinBlueEyes.html

    And these quotes of interracial fellowship are from the supposed "good" Mexicans who have legal status. Then Freddy wonders why so many whites are apprehensive about allowing the upwards of 30 million illegal aliens to stay in this country and/or become legal.

    Would Mexico tolerate millions of poor whites living illegally in their nation and demand special rights and privileges and rewrite their history? Would Mexican doctors deliver all of their babies free of charge like we do for them?

    And on top of that tolerate these same whites publicly gloating over the seeming demise of the mestizo majority and intimating that they will resort to violence to expedite this trend?

    Fred is very astute on almost anything that doesn’t involve Mexico or Mexicans. You have to be willfully ignorant – or dedicated to not noticing – to not notice that most of the animosity has been directed against whites, not by whites against others. Case in point: Jorge Ramos saying to Mexicans that “American is our country, not theirs.”

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH1g3U_umos

    I'm not trying to imply anything about Mr. Fred Reed here,

    but I'm just sayin'
  119. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    OK, how about this deal?

    Latinos can come to the US, but each Latin American nations has to cede 25% of it territory to the US. That’s give and take.

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  120. I don’t mind the illegals coming here and taking jobs that others won’t do. But amnesty leading to voting rights is unacceptable. I have enough of a problem with American-born voters, voting away my rights and everyone else’s.

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  121. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    I heard more practicality than sanctimony (except on your part). Considering that the US has invaded and occupies so much of the world, both militarily and economically, via economic hitmen (John Perkins), and " . . . high-class muscle [men] for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers . . . " (Smedley Butler, USMC), I see no problem with at least allowing the long-established, trouble-free illegals to stay and be granted citizenship. The cucarachas should be returned - in a box, if they've been bad enough to deserve it. Then, we turn down the dial on the immigration spigot. We could also end the federales' war on drugs. There's more, but I think Fred has nailed your real motivation. Hate away, dc.

    So no doubt the American Indians were xenophobic & racist for resisting downtrodden European immigrants.

    And what about the rights of the Indigenous Peoples of Europe to preserve, protect their culture from the invasion of low IQ 3rd worlders?

    If illegals make such ‘valuable contributions’, then why do their countries refuse to take them back?

    A poll of ten European nations with over 10,000 respondents finds overwhelming support for a Muslim immigration ban within the EU. In total 55% agree Muslim immigration should be stopped, only 20% disagree.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/08/shock-poll-collapses-media-narrative-overwhelming-eu-support-for-a-muslim-ban/

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    I hate the argument that it is impractical. Ending slavery wasn’t practical. All that cotton rotting in the fields and all.

    But seriously, there is now the technology to identify people cheaply and keep tabs on them.

    Consider this concept. Catch em. Mug Shot. DNA. Retinal ID. And then give them a Visa. Temporary. With a potential renewal. And then, the model immigrants who don’t cause problems don’t get deported today, or tomorrow, or maybe forever.

    But they also don’t get benefits or get to become a problem. Then they get the visa revoked or non renewed and they are gone.

    Probation before judgment. What could be more American?

    This is nothing more than reframing the debate. And shifting the burden of proof to the illegal instead of the US government. And really — how many Mexican citizens want ill behaved Mexican illegals making them look bad?

    Plus, the real problem isn’t Mexicans. That bus came and went a while back. Its Central Americans. And Mid East, African, and Asians.

    Right now, a US Visa application cost $160. Give them an electronic Visa that tags them via GPS.

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  123. Latinos are awesome.

    https://www.amren.com/features/2017/03/white-teacher-brown-school/

    Great students, great people, great future for America.

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    • Replies: @Kyle McKenna
    It's funny. The (fictional) flip side of his story is retailed 24/7/365 in the MSM, but testimony like his will never, ever be aired there. Which means, of course, that 99.9% of the population will never hear of it.
  124. @uslabor
    RobRich, this is for you and the "many here would reply" you conjure up to support your silly comments.

    Muchacho you say "Parts of Mexico seceded fair and square. They were invaded by the crooks running the country, who lost."

    What part of Mexico ceded fair and square? You can't mean Texas, which was overwhelmed by immigrants from American, and then stolen. Mexico's crooks lost to the US crooks.

    "They stupidly attacked the US, then really lost."

    Spoken like a true, ignorant, imperialist thug. Just who attacked who? According to Ulysses S Grant (victorious Union General, US President) the war was "one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to acquire additional territory."

    It sounds like you get your facts from John Wayne's Hollywood, esse. The US is in a sorry state (terrible debt, perpetual war, possible class warefare) and you scold a Mexican about his country?

    The Latinos in this country will survive Trump and people like you, we ain't going anywhere. this is our home.

    The Latinos in this country will survive Trump and people like you, we ain’t going anywhere.

    Have you not been following the news? Deportations are skyrocketing and latinos are living in constant fear. Your community has responded by… doing nothing. White liberals are making more noise than your sorry lot are.

    I’ve always hated your people, but now I am just embarrassed for you guys.

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  125. Not if they are here illegally do we need to “get used to them.” They are going home, where they belong. We have immigration laws and we want them enforced. This does not make us bad guys, any more than the Chinese or Mexicans or Poles enforcing immigration laws does not make them bad guys. There is no debate in my mind about legal immigrants, who in my view are here as citizens and aren’t going anywhere. We are overimmigrated though and we need a time out and some ‘me time’ for all US citizens of all ethnicity and religions, and we need a few decades to sort out and assimilate a decades-long immigration tidal wave. Time out. No more. Moratorium. We are full. I don’t want to live in an overcrowded third world of a .5 billion big-traffic, no-open-space self-inflicted nightmare. I am tired of people who want to frame this debate in terms of evil white people who don’t like brown people. Bravo. Sierra. We are the most damned welcoming nation on the planet of people from different cultures and ethnicities. Dump 1 million Chinese in Mexico, or vice versa, and see how that works out. But just because I like water does not mean that I want 15 feet of it in my living room.

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    The nonwhite LEGALS and their nonwhite "American" children are voting The Historic Native Born White American Majority into a racial minority at election time. That's not ok...
    , @Kyle McKenna
    Sadly though, even on a site like this, and even from someone as generally perceptive as Fred, we get advice to just lie back and try to enjoy it. I agree that we should fight while we can, but it's hard to be hopeful. Even our president, whose election was little short of a miracle, is being neutered.
  126. Trump will be remembered as the first leader of the American resistance to the globalists. Until the globalists are defeated the border will remain open. The globalists would usurp the sovereignty of nations to form a universal corporate governance. An eternal global feudalism.

    Trump and his deplorables are a problem for the scum who would enslave us all. But a much greater problem is represented by Russia, China and Iran. Powerful nations unwilling to give up their national sovereignty. The greatest problem for the globalists is the impending collapse of the Anglo/Zio Empire. Imperial Washington is in steep decline. The current crop of psychopaths who would be gods is doomed. If they were rational they would abandon their insane project.

    The post imperial lower 48 will balkanize. The issues with the southern border will ultimately be resolved between Mexico and the South Western States. In the meantime we all live with the threat of annihilation at the hands of Neocons, Neoliberals and Zionists. If the people of Earth are able to achieve a multi polar world while avoiding a nuclear winter there will be a reprieve from current political dangers.

    Glad I could help Fred. No charge.

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  127. @KenH
    According to Fred on Everything, whites and particularly white nationalists are intolerant, pea brained reprobates for not accepting the tens of millions of his beloved mestizos. But perhaps the sentiment of some of their leaders is a big reason why:

    "Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over." -- Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets

    "We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it!" -- Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas at Arlington

    "Remember 187--proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens--was the last gasp of white America in California." -- Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party
    Note: And it was.

    "We are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California." -- Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General

    "We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos." -- Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University

    "Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes,"
    Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas at Arlington
    http://www.americanpatrol.com/04-FEATURES/040416-GUTIERREZ/PaleSkinBlueEyes.html

    And these quotes of interracial fellowship are from the supposed "good" Mexicans who have legal status. Then Freddy wonders why so many whites are apprehensive about allowing the upwards of 30 million illegal aliens to stay in this country and/or become legal.

    Would Mexico tolerate millions of poor whites living illegally in their nation and demand special rights and privileges and rewrite their history? Would Mexican doctors deliver all of their babies free of charge like we do for them?

    And on top of that tolerate these same whites publicly gloating over the seeming demise of the mestizo majority and intimating that they will resort to violence to expedite this trend?

    It would be great if Mexico took back Southern California! First all the illegals would leave to go to the USA since social services and higher salaries would cease. Legalized immigrants would also go since they came to the US to begin with.

    There would be no labor laws so I could hire lots of cheap labor Mexican citizens just like Americans living in Mexico do, right Fred? That’s because I’m guessing there aren’t minimum wage laws there.

    My pharmaceutical prescriptions would cost a fraction of what they do now plus I could self prescribe. No more expensive property taxes. I could actually own my own home. Legal fees would drop from thousands of dollars for a maybe to a couple of twenty’s for a yes. There would be no building or land use codes so I could do my own repairs and renovations, build another home and work space on my property or since I’m retired open a store or taco stand in front of my house to make extra cash.

    Collecting cars would no longer be a problem. I could just park them and work on them in the front yard. Farm animals and gardens, no problemo! No or far lower taxes! The perks go on.

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  128. Oh, for goodness sakes! We don’t need to deport anyone, not when .357 magnum cartridges can be had for 17 cents!

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  129. @Buck Turgidson
    Not if they are here illegally do we need to "get used to them." They are going home, where they belong. We have immigration laws and we want them enforced. This does not make us bad guys, any more than the Chinese or Mexicans or Poles enforcing immigration laws does not make them bad guys. There is no debate in my mind about legal immigrants, who in my view are here as citizens and aren't going anywhere. We are overimmigrated though and we need a time out and some 'me time' for all US citizens of all ethnicity and religions, and we need a few decades to sort out and assimilate a decades-long immigration tidal wave. Time out. No more. Moratorium. We are full. I don't want to live in an overcrowded third world of a .5 billion big-traffic, no-open-space self-inflicted nightmare. I am tired of people who want to frame this debate in terms of evil white people who don't like brown people. Bravo. Sierra. We are the most damned welcoming nation on the planet of people from different cultures and ethnicities. Dump 1 million Chinese in Mexico, or vice versa, and see how that works out. But just because I like water does not mean that I want 15 feet of it in my living room.

    The nonwhite LEGALS and their nonwhite “American” children are voting The Historic Native Born White American Majority into a racial minority at election time. That’s not ok…

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  130. I’ve asked this so many times: WHY does UNZ publish Fred Reed? Is it just a bad habit at this point?

    On a personal level, he seems like a genuinely sympathetic guy. But this is exactly the sort of opinions you already find in any MSM outlet. Isn’t UNZ supposed to be alternative, or at least present an alternative point of view from that of the press?

    Not only that, but Fred argues in bad faith: dishonest and deflective, and very seldom does he follow-up his texts and engage with the readership. Again – exactly the things that makes reading MSM utterly redundant and off-putting to most UNZ-readers.

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  131. @Fran Macadam
    Nothing wrong with Mexicans. Nothing wrong with legal immigrants. The illegality is what needs to stop. It creates an untouchable caste system, creates contempt for the law, undermines labor and promotes identity theft criminality and tax evasion. Whomever allowed it was either crazy or an exploiter. Recall Cesar Chavez of the mostly Latino United Farmworkers was no fan of illegal immigration which he correctly saw as a fatal wound against fair labor practice.

    Their is something wrong with nonwhite Asian Legal Immigrants and their US born children….they are a different racial kind…and they are highly RACIALIZED Democratic Party Voters.

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  132. Well, there is a very rational one-word argument for opposition to amnesty for illegals — California. Well, Californa-post-1986 after the last amnesty, courtesy of Ronald Reagan. To cut to the chase: the recently amnestied now-voters will vote (mostly) en mass for their patrons, the Democrats, and in a relatively short time the electoral college will be a practical irrelevancy. Poof! A one-party state (no more red states) and pure political clientism. The kleptocrats like Hillary will finish off what’s left of the token opposition.

    With no legal or political constraints to open borders in come the third worlders by the millions until the USA is poor and squalid enough not to be a destiny for anyone. Argentina will look good by comparison

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  133. Fred, of course you are partial to Mexicans, what with the wife and step-kid (I hope I’m right about this). However, your partiality toward Mexico itself and your life in Mexico as an expatriate is possibly based on the ease of living there on the almighty US dollar. You’re like the guy in the song “Banana Republic” sung most famously by Jimmy Buffet.

    This post is my take on the matter. Feel free to comment if you don’t agree. Once the dollar falls off reserves status, and you are living AS a Mexican in Mexico instead of an ex-patriate in the Banana Republic, your tune may change.

    I agree most with Mr. Turdgison in post 128 here. Fred Reed, you’re completely biased in this matter, and your opinion is worthless in anything regarding illegal immigration from Latin America.

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  134. “They would have nowhere to stay, nothing to eat, no jobs.”

    Nah, they’ll just take the jobs Mexicans aren’t willing to do for the pay actually on offer. I’m sure people like Carlos “Fatboy” Slim will gratefully sieze on the opportunity to cut his overhead.

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  135. The Living and Breeding Space within the borders of America are very scarce…a lot more scarce than in 1965.

    America is not a legal proposition.

    The Asian “Americans” are a very hostile nonwhite FORIEGN fifth c0lumn actively involved in the destruction of thousands of years of acquired Native Born White American Medical…Scientific….Engineering…experience……And this is most definitely on the realm of Genocide!!!

    Once a majority of the Native Born White American Working Class morphs into full-blown Native Born White American Race Patriots….the Asian “Americans” will be told to leave……This is my very confident prediction.

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  136. What part of negotiating positions don’t you understand? Acting as if you don’t allows you to come up with some articles every week. Writing is difficult after all.
    - Americans have every right to their own country. Mexicans do as well. When are you going to comment on sections of the Mexican constitution that relate to not changing the cultural makeup of the country? What about the wall on Mexico’s southern border.

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  137. @wootendw
    I don't mind the illegals coming here and taking jobs that others won't do. But amnesty leading to voting rights is unacceptable. I have enough of a problem with American-born voters, voting away my rights and everyone else's.

    There are not ANY jobs that Americans won’t do.

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  138. One more thing: Notice the picture that goes along with this article has a Mexican Cutie (hey, another Jimmy Buffet lyric, from “Margaritaville”!) there. OK, OK, it helps get clicks to the article, that will always work, as men won’t change in this regard; I understand and respect that.

    However, does this cutie represent the average Mexican? Maybe Fred’s wife (and I’d be happy for him, in this case) may have these features, but this is not a picture of the average Mexican half-Indian. Who does he think he’s trying to influence by putting this picture with the article? All men, yes. Most of us have been around, Fred; you’re not fooling too many of us with that picture.*

    * Besides the fact that you didn’t show her ass. Hey, it’s the only way to be sure!**

    ** says Segourney Weaver

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    Fred you should join me on a trip to my doctor's office some time. Somehow, I just never see any of those petite friendly cute gorgeous energetic charming Latina ladies -- but what I do see are dozens of short, squat, Central American women speaking some kind of language carrying 2 or 3 kids apiece.

    I am sure you would get all warm and gooey knowing that my tax dollars are confiscated from my bank account to pay for their and their kids' health care--I sure don't. Further, they seem to have all kinds of time during the day to visit the dr's office. Obviously, they don't speak English and I am not sure they speak Spanish. Their main activities seem to be having and taking care of kids on my dime, and shuffing themselves and their kids and their in-laws to medical appointments that I am paying for. They don't work, they aren't generating any wealth, they receive benefits and I expect some of the $$$ gets shipped back 'home' (b/c home isn't here, they are just here to play us for suckers and strip mine us saps).

    And you think this is an awesome situation for us up here that we should embrace? If so, I suggest we round up 1,000 illegals and we send them all to your casa where you can pay for all of their upkeep, and you can build several new homes for their housing. C'mon, get in the diversity spirit Fred, open and empty your wallet. Unless you are a closet racist.

    The illegals are going home and the legal immigrants ... well, I think we have too many, I would just as soon we didn't have them here in these numbers. But they are here, I am not sure what to do about that. Maybe shutting down all mosques and encouraging muzzie emigration would be a start (in addition to the moratorium of course).

  139. @Michelle
    Mexican girls who have a large percentage of Native-American DNA are built physically along the lines of Yosemite Sam and the Tasmanian Devil! Huge upper bodies, with no discernable waist lines and short bowed legs, with flat behinds. Some of them have triple muffin tops, which they notoriously cram into skinny jean. Hate facts, but facts nonetheless! This is in no way meant to detract from their worth as human beings as I find them to be excellent mothers and citizens.

    My point was not that the lower classes are stocky and chubby (this is true in every country in the world) but rather that a genetically nice figured Mexican ancestry girl would be likely to get fat if brought up in the US, because in Mexico the culture does the work of genetic adaptations for self control. They, and especially their children, are not going to have a better life in the US (in respect of the things that matter). Unless they are allowed to have their own separate culture

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  140. I have never understood the problem people have with hispanic immigration in the USA. But maybe they have to take one for the team, get locked out of the USA to have at least some kind of precedent to deny those 5 or more billion subsaharan Africans who will want to immigrate to the rest of the world (not just Europe) in this century.

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    That's because you mistakenly equate Latinos with East Asians, Jews or Whites. Sure, they're perhaps preferrable to militant Arabs or unruly Africans - but the only two races who have demonstrated an ability to build and sustain large-scale, organized, stable societies of law are, again, Whites and East Asians. Whether this has to do with nature or nurture is secondary - either way replacing white Americans with Latinos in the US will have the same result as replacing Europeans with Africans in Europe.

    My greatest hope is that Whites realize their natural bond with East Asians, which really are the only people comparable to each other. Dogmatic racism or a ban on interracial relationships has no realistic future IMO, but there's still time plenty of time to construct a global framework that will sustain and carry on Western civilization and the White race. Sadly I believe it's already too late for the US unless it splits up into smaller nations - the strongest prospect is a strong Europe-Russia-China axis - with of course would include natural partners like Australia and Japan.

  141. @Erik Sieven
    I have never understood the problem people have with hispanic immigration in the USA. But maybe they have to take one for the team, get locked out of the USA to have at least some kind of precedent to deny those 5 or more billion subsaharan Africans who will want to immigrate to the rest of the world (not just Europe) in this century.

    That’s because you mistakenly equate Latinos with East Asians, Jews or Whites. Sure, they’re perhaps preferrable to militant Arabs or unruly Africans – but the only two races who have demonstrated an ability to build and sustain large-scale, organized, stable societies of law are, again, Whites and East Asians. Whether this has to do with nature or nurture is secondary – either way replacing white Americans with Latinos in the US will have the same result as replacing Europeans with Africans in Europe.

    My greatest hope is that Whites realize their natural bond with East Asians, which really are the only people comparable to each other. Dogmatic racism or a ban on interracial relationships has no realistic future IMO, but there’s still time plenty of time to construct a global framework that will sustain and carry on Western civilization and the White race. Sadly I believe it’s already too late for the US unless it splits up into smaller nations – the strongest prospect is a strong Europe-Russia-China axis – with of course would include natural partners like Australia and Japan.

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  142. Ok the cute women can stay. The bald guys starting in on their third layer of gang ink, and whose only marketable skill is “breaking things”, will be sent to Fred’s house. He can be their next teardrop tattoo.

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  143. @uslabor
    RobRich, this is for you and the "many here would reply" you conjure up to support your silly comments.

    Muchacho you say "Parts of Mexico seceded fair and square. They were invaded by the crooks running the country, who lost."

    What part of Mexico ceded fair and square? You can't mean Texas, which was overwhelmed by immigrants from American, and then stolen. Mexico's crooks lost to the US crooks.

    "They stupidly attacked the US, then really lost."

    Spoken like a true, ignorant, imperialist thug. Just who attacked who? According to Ulysses S Grant (victorious Union General, US President) the war was "one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to acquire additional territory."

    It sounds like you get your facts from John Wayne's Hollywood, esse. The US is in a sorry state (terrible debt, perpetual war, possible class warefare) and you scold a Mexican about his country?

    The Latinos in this country will survive Trump and people like you, we ain't going anywhere. this is our home.

    Mexico OPENLY hates its brown people. A cursory examination of the TV, or government shows only whites need apply. Anybody checked out Miss Mexico lately?

    Mexico has an abundance of small Amer indio or Mayan breeders with an IQ below 90. This bursting population isn’t capable of self governance. 600 million of em want welfare and food stamps because they cannot do for themselves even if Mexico and Latin America wasn’t a racist sewer.

    Below an IQ of 90, blacks, hispanics, and inbred Muslims [see Malveaux on inbred Islam] cannot defer gratification, control harmful urges including r strategy breeding like roaches, or resolve conflict without violence.

    White America is increasingly racist because the mean IQ of the nation is plummeting. Nothing less than Western Civilization is at stake.

    I remember touring Peruvian ruins and comparing and contrasting the relative advances between Inca and European architecture. The cathedrals of Europe were built when Incans hadn’t figured out that rocks roll down hill. HEY>>>> how about a wheel!!

    Ditto for Africans. and now Catholic charities ask us to FEED THE CHILDREN?

    Not on your life. Or the life of the birds, butterflies, lions, tigers and bears ….. Every live African or Latin American birth means death to something or someone else.

    We had better steel ourselves for what must come. These worthless breeders must be stopped.

    It’s just too bad the guy with the funny mustache tried it with the wrong demographic. Now when we need extermination… it’s still enjoying bad press.

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    It’s a matter of numbers. If thirty million gringos all moved to Mexico in a short period of time there’d be massacres and upheaval. Too many have moved here all at once. We’re different racially and culturally so it’s guaranteed there’ll be problems. Our supposed leaders should have gotten control of this and limited the number. Instead we got a flood. The irresponsibility of the political class is to blame.

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  145. Go home beaners!

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Hey, what??? You can't say beaners on Sailer's blog, but you can here. Who would have thought?

    "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana."

    More beans for you in the video. Don't knock 'em though; they are very good for you.

  146. @Achmed E. Newman
    One more thing: Notice the picture that goes along with this article has a Mexican Cutie (hey, another Jimmy Buffet lyric, from "Margaritaville"!) there. OK, OK, it helps get clicks to the article, that will always work, as men won't change in this regard; I understand and respect that.

    However, does this cutie represent the average Mexican? Maybe Fred's wife (and I'd be happy for him, in this case) may have these features, but this is not a picture of the average Mexican half-Indian. Who does he think he's trying to influence by putting this picture with the article? All men, yes. Most of us have been around, Fred; you're not fooling too many of us with that picture.*

    * Besides the fact that you didn't show her ass. Hey, it's the only way to be sure!**

    ** says Segourney Weaver

    Fred you should join me on a trip to my doctor’s office some time. Somehow, I just never see any of those petite friendly cute gorgeous energetic charming Latina ladies — but what I do see are dozens of short, squat, Central American women speaking some kind of language carrying 2 or 3 kids apiece.

    I am sure you would get all warm and gooey knowing that my tax dollars are confiscated from my bank account to pay for their and their kids’ health care–I sure don’t. Further, they seem to have all kinds of time during the day to visit the dr’s office. Obviously, they don’t speak English and I am not sure they speak Spanish. Their main activities seem to be having and taking care of kids on my dime, and shuffing themselves and their kids and their in-laws to medical appointments that I am paying for. They don’t work, they aren’t generating any wealth, they receive benefits and I expect some of the $$$ gets shipped back ‘home’ (b/c home isn’t here, they are just here to play us for suckers and strip mine us saps).

    And you think this is an awesome situation for us up here that we should embrace? If so, I suggest we round up 1,000 illegals and we send them all to your casa where you can pay for all of their upkeep, and you can build several new homes for their housing. C’mon, get in the diversity spirit Fred, open and empty your wallet. Unless you are a closet racist.

    The illegals are going home and the legal immigrants … well, I think we have too many, I would just as soon we didn’t have them here in these numbers. But they are here, I am not sure what to do about that. Maybe shutting down all mosques and encouraging muzzie emigration would be a start (in addition to the moratorium of course).

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    This is absolutely true! My experiences at Kaiser, exactly.
  147. Well, your country’s done for, gents. If genetics even accounts for a minor but significant extent of behavior and attitude, then the economic consequences of population replacement own’t be fun for the remaining natives.

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    Well, your country’s done for, gents
     
    LMAO!

    Damn Chairman Mao, I thought you were a proud A-Merican all this time?!?!
  148. Realistically speaking, I think that Central American Latinos will be the bridge through which La Raza Cosmica (white/Asian/Latino/black mulatto race) will emerge a few centuries down the line, assuming an Age of Malthusian Industrialism type of scenario.

    Asians and Whites intermarry a lot, but not with Blacks. However, Latinos intermarry a lot with both Blacks and Whites, and can thus connect all the ethnicities together.

    A large fall in average IQ is inevitable anyway due to dysgenic fertility patterns. The major effect of this specifically would also be to remove drastically diminish the size of the future “smart fractions” (unless the emerging Jewasian elite caste was to evolve taboos against miscegenation with the mulatto underclass).

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    However, Latinos intermarry a lot with both Blacks and Whites, and can thus connect all the ethnicities together.
     
    I live in a city with LOTS of Latinos, and I don't see it. Black phenotypes are pretty rare in Central America, and Latinos are ethnically cleansing blacks from L.A. In my experience, Latinos despise blacks.

    Most Latinos in the US are also indigenous peoples. Only the top tier indigenous-descended women (as in the picture Fred posted) have a shot at out-marriage. Most indigenous women look like Columba Bush and do not have a lot of marriage market value outside their ethnicity.
    , @gwynedd1
    Latinos are not a race. Its a continuum where ,typically men in power choose European features in their women. "Whites " will just rise to the top as they have done in Mexico. Moreover the more the Anglo-Latino line is blurred the less cultural influences there will be. So race will eventually reemerge.

    Generally speaking assimilation occurs between Eurasians with Eurasians and Africans and Africans. Africans and Eurasians may never actually assimilate.
    , @dc.sunsets
    Dysgenic fertility patterns are for the idiots.

    My sons are all +3 SD in IQ and in LQ (life's an IQ test, of course.) They all married smart girls, and are busy having smart kids.

    The rest of the world can (and apparently will) produce idiocracy.

    I will add that those who think the next hundred years will be free of extraordinary levels of culling of populations are tremendous optimists.

    Hard times ahead....

  149. @Anatoly Karlin
    Realistically speaking, I think that Central American Latinos will be the bridge through which La Raza Cosmica (white/Asian/Latino/black mulatto race) will emerge a few centuries down the line, assuming an Age of Malthusian Industrialism type of scenario.

    Asians and Whites intermarry a lot, but not with Blacks. However, Latinos intermarry a lot with both Blacks and Whites, and can thus connect all the ethnicities together.

    A large fall in average IQ is inevitable anyway due to dysgenic fertility patterns. The major effect of this specifically would also be to remove drastically diminish the size of the future "smart fractions" (unless the emerging Jewasian elite caste was to evolve taboos against miscegenation with the mulatto underclass).

    However, Latinos intermarry a lot with both Blacks and Whites, and can thus connect all the ethnicities together.

    I live in a city with LOTS of Latinos, and I don’t see it. Black phenotypes are pretty rare in Central America, and Latinos are ethnically cleansing blacks from L.A. In my experience, Latinos despise blacks.

    Most Latinos in the US are also indigenous peoples. Only the top tier indigenous-descended women (as in the picture Fred posted) have a shot at out-marriage. Most indigenous women look like Columba Bush and do not have a lot of marriage market value outside their ethnicity.

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    You mean that Latinos just magically sprouted out of the ground?


    The open intent of post-1965 Immigration Policy is to rapidly reduce The Historic Native Born White American Majority to a violently persecuted racial minority in post-white toilet "America"...


    The Historic Native Born White American Majority is under no obligation to do this because LA RAZA demands this...

    Latinos...Asians...Muslims..."Americans" are in invasive species....

    Latinos and their MS-13..and Zeta Gangs are the DEATH SQUADRONS to be used against Native Born White American Working Class Young Males...
  150. @Anatoly Karlin
    Realistically speaking, I think that Central American Latinos will be the bridge through which La Raza Cosmica (white/Asian/Latino/black mulatto race) will emerge a few centuries down the line, assuming an Age of Malthusian Industrialism type of scenario.

    Asians and Whites intermarry a lot, but not with Blacks. However, Latinos intermarry a lot with both Blacks and Whites, and can thus connect all the ethnicities together.

    A large fall in average IQ is inevitable anyway due to dysgenic fertility patterns. The major effect of this specifically would also be to remove drastically diminish the size of the future "smart fractions" (unless the emerging Jewasian elite caste was to evolve taboos against miscegenation with the mulatto underclass).

    Latinos are not a race. Its a continuum where ,typically men in power choose European features in their women. “Whites ” will just rise to the top as they have done in Mexico. Moreover the more the Anglo-Latino line is blurred the less cultural influences there will be. So race will eventually reemerge.

    Generally speaking assimilation occurs between Eurasians with Eurasians and Africans and Africans. Africans and Eurasians may never actually assimilate.

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  151. Fred,

    A very nice rejoinder to the recent rhetoric on Vox Day’s blog. I thank you for it as I really do appreciate it.

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  152. @The Anti-Gnostic

    However, Latinos intermarry a lot with both Blacks and Whites, and can thus connect all the ethnicities together.
     
    I live in a city with LOTS of Latinos, and I don't see it. Black phenotypes are pretty rare in Central America, and Latinos are ethnically cleansing blacks from L.A. In my experience, Latinos despise blacks.

    Most Latinos in the US are also indigenous peoples. Only the top tier indigenous-descended women (as in the picture Fred posted) have a shot at out-marriage. Most indigenous women look like Columba Bush and do not have a lot of marriage market value outside their ethnicity.

    You mean that Latinos just magically sprouted out of the ground?

    The open intent of post-1965 Immigration Policy is to rapidly reduce The Historic Native Born White American Majority to a violently persecuted racial minority in post-white toilet “America”…

    The Historic Native Born White American Majority is under no obligation to do this because LA RAZA demands this…

    Latinos…Asians…Muslims…”Americans” are in invasive species….

    Latinos and their MS-13..and Zeta Gangs are the DEATH SQUADRONS to be used against Native Born White American Working Class Young Males…

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    The Historic Native Born White American Majority
     
    I see that sperging retard is still among us. Poor predictable iSteve.
    , @Opinionator

    The open intent of post-1965 Immigration Policy is to rapidly reduce The Historic Native Born White American Majority to a violently persecuted racial minority in post-white toilet “America”…
     
    Cite?
  153. My comment is so far down that nobody will see, but here goes anyway:

    Thank God our illegals are Mexican and not the kind Europe is getting!

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    Europe is getting better stock better gene better educated and ambitious .They bring with them a keen awareness of the effects of western politics and economy It is good. I welcome them. You should as well. I also wish them target more those countries that joined the coalition of The Willing of Bush and those who whole heatedly energetically profitably welcomed and maintained sanctions on Libya Iraq Syria and Iran.
  154. Once again you guys have fallen for Fred’s click-bait. He could do this article every other week and would get the views he and Ron need.

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  155. @Buck Turgidson
    Fred you should join me on a trip to my doctor's office some time. Somehow, I just never see any of those petite friendly cute gorgeous energetic charming Latina ladies -- but what I do see are dozens of short, squat, Central American women speaking some kind of language carrying 2 or 3 kids apiece.

    I am sure you would get all warm and gooey knowing that my tax dollars are confiscated from my bank account to pay for their and their kids' health care--I sure don't. Further, they seem to have all kinds of time during the day to visit the dr's office. Obviously, they don't speak English and I am not sure they speak Spanish. Their main activities seem to be having and taking care of kids on my dime, and shuffing themselves and their kids and their in-laws to medical appointments that I am paying for. They don't work, they aren't generating any wealth, they receive benefits and I expect some of the $$$ gets shipped back 'home' (b/c home isn't here, they are just here to play us for suckers and strip mine us saps).

    And you think this is an awesome situation for us up here that we should embrace? If so, I suggest we round up 1,000 illegals and we send them all to your casa where you can pay for all of their upkeep, and you can build several new homes for their housing. C'mon, get in the diversity spirit Fred, open and empty your wallet. Unless you are a closet racist.

    The illegals are going home and the legal immigrants ... well, I think we have too many, I would just as soon we didn't have them here in these numbers. But they are here, I am not sure what to do about that. Maybe shutting down all mosques and encouraging muzzie emigration would be a start (in addition to the moratorium of course).

    This is absolutely true! My experiences at Kaiser, exactly.

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  156. Fred, with their average IQ at 90, they will never… get used to it. When we get rid of them, and probably before, we will have locked the return gate to you.

    Also, your photo is racist!! The gal is mostly White, and the little shitbird squaws that I see around here in Silicon Va. look like homo erectus.

    But your psychology sees only WHITE somehow. must be you watch too much mexer TV which is all White actors, of course with Boobs, both literal and figurative , everywhere. ugh.

    JW

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  157. @Sunbeam
    "Finally, one thing I’ve noticed is that much younger Latinos, who were probably born here or came as young children, often look a bit different than their much older co-ethnics. Even if they grew up in poor families, poverty in the SF Bay Area is very different than poverty in rural Mexico, including possible childhood malnutrition."

    I'll go further than that. There is something very odd about how the appearance of people has changed over the past half to whole century.

    If you look at old movies you see great big honking noses on tons of people, particularly those who were descended from recent European immigrants.

    Or while it it a stereotype, look at old pictures of black people. You will see the infamous saucer lip appearance of so many jokes and insults.

    So what happened? Intermarriage? Massive plastic surgery? Some aspect of the American environment causes the gene for a big honker to go dormant? Though it gets colder in a lot of American locations than it does in Western Europe, let alone Southern Europe. But why aren't actual Europeans sporting Jimmy Durantes these days?

    And that doesn't explain how the appearance of black people changed. If you think I am joking google up some old photos. Dunno, maybe there is a diet effect? I don't think most people from other parts of the country understand how integral Fatback was in the Southern diet for a long, long time. Not so much for direct consumption, but for cooking oil, seasoning, and as a fat source. I dunno. I'm more familiar with the old ways than most, and it wasn't really that long ago.

    And one other thing: there were a couple posts about the heavy indian ancestry immigrants looking like mutants or something.

    That goes both ways I guess. Personally I find someone with the metrosexual look repulsive. There's just something that raises my hackles.

    Then I take a look at the TV and they are everywhere.

    Good points:

    If you look at old movies you see great big honking noses on tons of people, particularly those who were descended from recent European immigrants.

    A lot of the distinctive characteristics that we knew in our grand parents and their generation, disappear when cross bred out of their own native groups. Along with the prominent proboscises like the Schnoz had, there’s a bunch of other features you don’t see too much. The hands like baseball mitts and heavy boned structure of Northern Europeans drops out pretty fast.
    Other refined facial and body type features also seem to be dependent on some degree of inter breeding that is maintained in a nation or region protected from todays complete helter skelter mixing. Just talking about crossing from within whites, if you cross racially, how can you really see what is missing?
    In which cases somebody can see that the child is half/half but the finer points/features, sometimes look out of place, like one of those esteemed honkers on a hapless Euro-asian hybrid boy, or girl… ! These features of note, exist in all the races too, so everybody can be disappointed.

    _______________________

    Tats, Nose rings; making an ear into a big loop thing, what next? metro sexual perverts is right.

    Personally I find someone with the metrosexual look repulsive. There’s just something that raises my hackles.

    […Then I take a look at the TV…]

    All junk, between adds, you get nothin’ but crap. Modern Family, with big fat twinkletoes mincing and lisping nonstop. There’s another program with the most disgusting bunch of teen agers from metroland… every word the kid says sounds like Paul Lind or some shit.

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  158. Fred should comment on this Amren article:

    https://www.amren.com/features/2017/03/white-teacher-brown-school/

    For 25 years I worked as a substitute teacher in a sanctuary city in California, and I would like to share a few of my experiences. The racial proportions in the schools have been roughly 75 percent Hispanic, 10 percent black, 6 percent Asian, and almost no whites but for a stray Russian or Armenian.

    The students are generally lazy, abusive, and disrespectful. Rather than do the work assigned, most of them spend their time texting, listening to music on their iPods, playing with cell phone cameras and handheld games, talking about sex and gangs and fighting, and eating junk food. Doritos and candy bars are a favorite breakfast.

    Why do they behave this way? Mexican culture does not value education. Also, we give everything to them for free, so it has little value in their eyes. In Mexico, they would have to pay for everything, including their books. In America, we give them free books, so they scrawl all over them and lose them.

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    Why do they behave this way? Mexican culture does not value education.
     
    Same behavior among whites in the school where my wife teaches, and it is not entirely due to the trailer trash that walks in from the trailer park across the street from the school.

    Evidence of cultural and social decline and decay are everywhere you look. This is what happens when people spend 50 years putting their life styles on a credit card (personal, business and governmental, that is.)

    It's long past time for individuals to take a different path and abandon the herd, which seems intent on destroying itself.
  159. @nsa
    The senile rat Reagan signed the 1986 Amnesty and basked in the praise of the vile democrats and the even more vile kosher media. The result: as of 2015, California is now only 38% non-hispanic white...and shrinking as whites flee the hordes of brown mendicants and the 13% state income tax.

    No, nsa, Reagan wasn’t senile. His problem was he trusted the scum in the US congress more than he trusted the Russians (It was the Soviet Union then). Reagan, and all Americans eventually, got screwed on that deal (security of the borders in return for a one-time (haha) amnesty). The 2nd one was the entire budget process, the welfare state was to be decreased as the military budgets increased – that didn’t happen either.

    Do these jokers who comment in favor of Reed’s biased view think that one more amnesty will do the trick? Why don’t you just go down to the courthouse and legally change your name to Charlie Brown, and I’ll change my gender and my name to Lucy, then, let’s play some football!

    BTW, Fred’s number 56,000,000 was probably of hispanics in general in the US. Nobody is speaking about deporting US citizens, Fred. However that number is probably only off by a factor of 2 for illegals. There are probably 25 – 40 million. No, we don’t need a million buses – they can take multiple trips (haha, not completely serious as most will leave on their own as commenters have correctly noted).

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  160. “The Mexican middle class is no more violent than anyone else’s.”

    “All of this would suggest that encouraging immigrants to move into the middle class might be a Real Good Idea.”

    Being middle class is a genetic thing. A smaller portion of Mexicans is generically middle class then is whites. This isn’t something you can just do because you want to. Latinos absorb middle class values at exactly the rate you would predict from their IQ.

    “Another is that if government can turn them into welfare dependents, it will.”

    It’s not like Mexicans don’t vote for their own welfare payments. Survey after survey shows they want more free shit from white taxpayers.

    Bottom line, these people are going to vote less then 50% Republican forever. No matter what your stance on immigration. No matter what laws you pass. You know it, I know it. Who cares if its 20% or 40%. In the long run you win zero elections with less then 50% of the vote.

    “This would be a rational position if there were a possibility that Mr. Trump could chase them out of the country–which he can’t do in significant numbers, which would mean many millions.”

    Nonsense. Large scale forced migration has gone on since the beginning of time. What are they going to do about it. Chant protests at tanks? Fire rifles at jet fighters? Be removed from this country or be removed from the earth. Once you set the tone, people comply.

    It’s difficult, but so is growing up in a country more like Mexico, which is what a majority non-white country will be like.

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  161. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jim Sweeney
    Citizens may be deported Fred if they are under 18 and deported "home" with parent(s). They may return at 18 and, at 21, petition for their parent(s) to come here.

    The other legal issue is whether anchor babies are citizens. I know the State Dept. terms them as such but the courts have not weighed in on that point. If parents are legal residents, their child is a citizen. That was decided long ago but the anchor baby issue has not. I think it would likely be decided affirmatively but that's not the point.

    Then too, it is quite possible to deport millions if you make employment dependent on legality and if you prosecute those who stole identities for work or otherwise committed fraud. And, of course, illegal entry is a crime per se and a deportable offense.

    It is irrelevant why a country may decide in such fashion. Maybe not to you but the country decides, not Fred, the guy who abandoned the country for cheap living and whatever else. He has no skin in that game anymore having given it away for personal gain and/or pleasure.

    Jim:

    Courts have indeed weighed in on this issues. I quote below from a SCOTUS landmark case in immigration law, the Wong Kim Ark 1898 decision.

    Hon. Horace Gray, Supreme Court Justice for the majority in this decision, wrote a concise statement of the question asked in this case.
    “[W]hether a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.”

    Got? Children of immigrants are only US Citizens if the immigrants are here legally. It’s obvious that knucklehead judges have not paid attention or have ignored precedent, but WKA is indeed the correct precedent for this situation.

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    What an informative comment, given time I'll read up on it. Meanwhile, a great many Hispanic kids have gone to school and graduated with high marks and behaved themselves otherwise and I want my moneys worth from the tax dollars that they managed to educate themselves on, despite being trapped in public schools. The rest will have to chop cotton or starve.
  162. @Alden
    Then Texas will get exactly what it deserves. California imports Chinese, Indians, Persians, Armenians, Russians and various Asians who have all the STEM administration and other jobs locked up.

    Agriculture is our biggest industry and they need to keep the low IQ welfare dependent farm workers.

    A new wave every generation, because the immigrant’s children won’t do that work, they’ll go on welfare.

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    You're right. The 2nd and 3rd generation men becone criminal's while the women and kids go on welfare.
  163. @Anatoly Karlin
    Realistically speaking, I think that Central American Latinos will be the bridge through which La Raza Cosmica (white/Asian/Latino/black mulatto race) will emerge a few centuries down the line, assuming an Age of Malthusian Industrialism type of scenario.

    Asians and Whites intermarry a lot, but not with Blacks. However, Latinos intermarry a lot with both Blacks and Whites, and can thus connect all the ethnicities together.

    A large fall in average IQ is inevitable anyway due to dysgenic fertility patterns. The major effect of this specifically would also be to remove drastically diminish the size of the future "smart fractions" (unless the emerging Jewasian elite caste was to evolve taboos against miscegenation with the mulatto underclass).

    Dysgenic fertility patterns are for the idiots.

    My sons are all +3 SD in IQ and in LQ (life’s an IQ test, of course.) They all married smart girls, and are busy having smart kids.

    The rest of the world can (and apparently will) produce idiocracy.

    I will add that those who think the next hundred years will be free of extraordinary levels of culling of populations are tremendous optimists.

    Hard times ahead….

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  164. @fnn
    Fred should comment on this Amren article:
    https://www.amren.com/features/2017/03/white-teacher-brown-school/

    For 25 years I worked as a substitute teacher in a sanctuary city in California, and I would like to share a few of my experiences. The racial proportions in the schools have been roughly 75 percent Hispanic, 10 percent black, 6 percent Asian, and almost no whites but for a stray Russian or Armenian.

    The students are generally lazy, abusive, and disrespectful. Rather than do the work assigned, most of them spend their time texting, listening to music on their iPods, playing with cell phone cameras and handheld games, talking about sex and gangs and fighting, and eating junk food. Doritos and candy bars are a favorite breakfast.

    Why do they behave this way? Mexican culture does not value education. Also, we give everything to them for free, so it has little value in their eyes. In Mexico, they would have to pay for everything, including their books. In America, we give them free books, so they scrawl all over them and lose them.
     

    Why do they behave this way? Mexican culture does not value education.

    Same behavior among whites in the school where my wife teaches, and it is not entirely due to the trailer trash that walks in from the trailer park across the street from the school.

    Evidence of cultural and social decline and decay are everywhere you look. This is what happens when people spend 50 years putting their life styles on a credit card (personal, business and governmental, that is.)

    It’s long past time for individuals to take a different path and abandon the herd, which seems intent on destroying itself.

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  165. @dc.sunsets
    Mestizos have a home. It is NOT in North America.

    If conditions in North America become hostile enough, they will go home. For me, this IS my home. If I'm not here (USA), I'm on vacation somewhere. It's really that simple.

    I am far from alone in being upset that when I visit a local store it now looks like I was magically transported to Quintana Roo or somewhere equally "south." My local WalMart looks no less Mayan than did a visit to Sam Walton's big box in Downtown Cancun 15 years ago.

    An invasion without guns is still defined by the numbers (and concentration) of outsiders. The USA has been invaded and large parts of it are now Occupied Lands.

    Fred can take his sanctimony and ram it where the sigmoidoscopes don't shine. They have to go home, we can cook our own restaurant meals, pick our own crops and mow our own lawns.

    In fact, Americans won’t and can’t actually do much of anything. A population of Lipitor soaked lard asses wheezing around on puffers and scooters is Not Able To Mow The Lawn. Any more. Addicted to the worst junk food, crap medicine, toxic environment, shot through with debt and poor productivity. The U.S. military has 100,000 ‘undeployables’ sitting on their bums. None of these in Russia’s military.

    A mass deportation would precipitate just the scale of crisis that would finally crash the whole rotten system. So, maybe something good would come of this.

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  166. @Daniel Chieh
    Well, your country's done for, gents. If genetics even accounts for a minor but significant extent of behavior and attitude, then the economic consequences of population replacement own't be fun for the remaining natives.

    Well, your country’s done for, gents

    LMAO!

    Damn Chairman Mao, I thought you were a proud A-Merican all this time?!?!

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    Always easier to relate to a culture when it hasn't become the byword for degeneracy, of course. The West hasn't quite become that yet, but its rapidly speeding toward it.
  167. @Truth

    Well, your country’s done for, gents
     
    LMAO!

    Damn Chairman Mao, I thought you were a proud A-Merican all this time?!?!

    Always easier to relate to a culture when it hasn’t become the byword for degeneracy, of course. The West hasn’t quite become that yet, but its rapidly speeding toward it.

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  168. Besides America’s ultra-liberal immigration policies and lack of a guarded border the other reason for having so many Latinos in North America is free trade.

    Illegal immigration to the US surged after the signing of NAFTA and other free trade deals which forced Mexican farmers to compete directly with US agro-business and Mexican factories to compete directly with China and Japan. Low and middle income countries need protectionism because they lack the human capital and infrastructure to compete directly with first world countries and high IQ post-socialist nations like China.

    If you get rid of NAFTA and allow Latin American governments to pursue more nationalistic policies, then you will get less Latinos wanting to come to North America.

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  169. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    FRED REED
    We should send cargo planes and ships to bring tHE S Sudanese They are christian They have suffered at the HANDS of the Mulsim north and are now being forced to move north to escape the situation developing in S Sudan . America and Israel were instrumental in creating this country We should bring them here and let them prosper , let them become better Christian and help them even evangelize other .

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  170. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @The Grate Deign
    My comment is so far down that nobody will see, but here goes anyway:

    Thank God our illegals are Mexican and not the kind Europe is getting!

    Europe is getting better stock better gene better educated and ambitious .They bring with them a keen awareness of the effects of western politics and economy It is good. I welcome them. You should as well. I also wish them target more those countries that joined the coalition of The Willing of Bush and those who whole heatedly energetically profitably welcomed and maintained sanctions on Libya Iraq Syria and Iran.

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  171. @War for Blair Mountain
    You mean that Latinos just magically sprouted out of the ground?


    The open intent of post-1965 Immigration Policy is to rapidly reduce The Historic Native Born White American Majority to a violently persecuted racial minority in post-white toilet "America"...


    The Historic Native Born White American Majority is under no obligation to do this because LA RAZA demands this...

    Latinos...Asians...Muslims..."Americans" are in invasive species....

    Latinos and their MS-13..and Zeta Gangs are the DEATH SQUADRONS to be used against Native Born White American Working Class Young Males...

    The Historic Native Born White American Majority

    I see that sperging retard is still among us. Poor predictable iSteve.

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    Berty...the prissy old paleocon.....Carry on Berty!!!!!.....on life support...
  172. @Ron Unz

    The vast majority of immigrants to America from the third world are quite lumpen and misshapen and in many cases, downright hideous! A lot of them are not symmetrical,
     
    Well, I dunno...

    I live in Palo Alto and since such a large fraction of all the local service employees are Latinos from an immigrant background, I'd guess they're close to half the people I interact with on a daily basis. Offhand, they look pretty "average" to me, though admittedly perhaps a bit on the "dumpy" side.

    Keep in mind that most first generation Latino immigrants probably grew up pretty poor and may have had a hard life, which certainly would impact the wear-and-tear of their appearance. Also, since they're generally still working-class or working-poor, they probably can't put in the time or effort to enhance their appearance by spending endless hours in gyms or beauty salons like middle-class or upper-middle-class Americans do these days. Don't forget that urban centers today tend to heavily consist of upper-middle-class whites/Asians and working-poor Latinos, thereby magnifying the apparent distinction.

    Back when I was a college undergrad in the Boston area, the local service employees were all working-class Irish and the contrast between their quite "lumpen" appearance and that of the much higher-class Ivy League students was very memorable to me at the time. I'll bet if you went down to the Central Valley today and found some working-poor whites, they'd look much more like their Latino peers.

    Finally, one thing I've noticed is that much younger Latinos, who were probably born here or came as young children, often look a bit different than their much older co-ethnics. Even if they grew up in poor families, poverty in the SF Bay Area is very different than poverty in rural Mexico, including possible childhood malnutrition.

    The reality is that over 42% of hispanic women are obese in the US. Much more than white women. 77% of hispanics are overweight or obese. Fred’s photo is absurd. This one is more like what hispanic women look like.

    http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/04/Illegal-women-with-signs-Yes-We-Can-with-DACA-DAPA-Pat-Sullivan-Associated-Press-640×480.jpg

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  173. Is the girl in the White shirt supposed to be cute? I’d say 3 out of 10. But then I don’t like the potato between 2 grapefruits type of face.

    There’s a formula for the perfect Caucasian face which also works well for black women. It’s called egg shaped or oval. The face is about 1/3 longer than it is wide, the chin and jaw are at least 1/3 narrower than the widest part and the eyes are widely spaced. The lips are shaped and defined.

    A potato between 2 grapefruits and shapeless blobs of lips is just not attractive and really, really doesn’t look well as one gets older.

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    Is the girl in the White shirt supposed to be cute? I’d say 3 out of 10.
     
    I never mix politics and attraction.

    I am the biggest anti Latino racist you will ever meet but there is no question that the median, young, non fat, Latina is hotter than the median, young, non fat white girl. Obviously if you don't control for obesity the mean white girls are going to better looking but cause Latinos tend to be fat pigs, but the young Latinas who aren't fat are pretty damn hot. Hotter than the typical white girl for sure.

    The problem with Latinas is that they just don't produce a lot of 10s. There is no Latina answer to Emma Watson or Keira Knightley.

    As for the girl in the pic, I would say she is a 5.5 or a 6. Not beautiful, but cute enough. Honestly she is less attractive than most young Latina's I've seen, Fred could have found a much better example to make his case.
  174. @Sean
    A new wave every generation, because the immigrant's children won't do that work, they'll go on welfare.

    You’re right. The 2nd and 3rd generation men becone criminal’s while the women and kids go on welfare.

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  175. What is always forgotten in these equations, is of course the Universities. Let us say, fine, that Traditional America cannot harden its heart, neither those in power, and start rounding up hundreds, thousands of Mexicans in shipping containers and dropping the steel boxes into the bottom of the ocean via helicopter.

    The problem is yes, the Democrats have solidified their permanent voter stock, but true terror lies elsewhere. We keep hearing about this assimilation problem.

    Ok fine, but what happens when those who are fit, and increasingly unfit, find themselves catapulted into higher education, for need of diversity and lessening “disparate impact”.

    They won’t orbit the STEM fields in any great number, I assure you. They will naturally gravitate to the wholesome humanities, where the wonders of radical Chicano, or LatinX studies courses await. Expecting to find some form of cultural preservation, they are met with something more appropriate for our political landscape. One which readies our young Mestizos in the language of expropriation, technocratic engineering, which linguistically, rationalises for what is all intents and purposes, race hatred of the damnable exhausted WASPs?

    You needn’t one million of these creatures. Just ten of those shrewd enough to appear competent on a television. Then the despoilment games can begin with a weak court, and ever increasingly void Constitution. It was rendered null the moment ink was put to paper for the Civil Rights act, which many trueCONs have trouble noticing.

    Therefore this rules out this thing called assimilation. Leaving us very few roads, and the avenues that could be useful, the Liberal mind cannot allow them to be seen.

    Personally I favour Eucivic ends. Holding close those with more Cortes in the bloodline, and expulsion of those who lean to Montezuma, this would require resources and time of course, worse, is exclusionary. Thus impermissible by Progressive standards. IQ cannot is inadmissible, as this is deviltry. Defunding schools who continue with Leftist courses, and most importantly imprisoning those employed, will be employed, or have been employed in the Post-Modernist Social Sciences is not even in the Republican sphere of imagination.

    So, what is left? I leave others to speculate the outcome of this monstrous experiment.

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  176. @pyrrhus
    Wrong. Simply take away welfare, free medical care, and jobs, and most would self deport. But Ike deported 1 1/2 million Mexicans in 4 months, back in the 1950s, so it can't be that tough...

    Another easy solution: Every small town across the entire country has at least three or more mexican restaurants, all a fortress of illegals working there. And how do they survive? They are overwhelmingly patronized by white customers. We supply the money to fund their enterprises, which in turn funds more illegals. If there were a boycott of these thousands of restaurants, they would most likely dry up within a few months and we’d begin to see self deportation increase. So can we stop going there already? Please?

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    "Another easy solution: Every small town across the entire country has at least three or more mexican restaurants, all a fortress of illegals working there. And how do they survive? They are overwhelmingly patronized by white customers. We supply the money to fund their enterprises, which in turn funds more illegals."

    Assuming that these restaurants are predominately employed by illegals.

    "If there were a boycott of these thousands of restaurants, they would most likely dry up within a few months and we’d begin to see self deportation increase."

    Why don't you lead that charge?
  177. Mass deportation isn’t the only way to get rid of the interlopers; simply drying up the availability of jobs available to illegals will have a huge impact. One way to do this is to make the E-Verify system mandatory throughout the country, so that invaders are shut out of the job market and then self-deport themselves.

    It’s already working in some states: http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/study-e-verify-states-lead-in-job-gains/

    For those who want to take meaningful action on the immigration front, I suggest people visit the NumbersUSA website ( https://www.numbersusa.com/ ) and join in the online activism there to pressure the congress on the immigration issue.

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  178. @Sunspot
    Another easy solution: Every small town across the entire country has at least three or more mexican restaurants, all a fortress of illegals working there. And how do they survive? They are overwhelmingly patronized by white customers. We supply the money to fund their enterprises, which in turn funds more illegals. If there were a boycott of these thousands of restaurants, they would most likely dry up within a few months and we'd begin to see self deportation increase. So can we stop going there already? Please?

    “Another easy solution: Every small town across the entire country has at least three or more mexican restaurants, all a fortress of illegals working there. And how do they survive? They are overwhelmingly patronized by white customers. We supply the money to fund their enterprises, which in turn funds more illegals.”

    Assuming that these restaurants are predominately employed by illegals.

    “If there were a boycott of these thousands of restaurants, they would most likely dry up within a few months and we’d begin to see self deportation increase.”

    Why don’t you lead that charge?

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  179. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Latinos are as different from whites as are they from blacks.

    Are you on the way to getting used to blacks, Reed?
    What about blacks keeping a record of their lineage from the late 15th century? Wouldn’t they be very good?

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  180. Blind Fred (“D.C.”) Reed seems increasingly reliant on Langley spookwriters- assuming he ever existed in the first place.

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  181. @TheBoom
    Fred is very astute on almost anything that doesn't involve Mexico or Mexicans. You have to be willfully ignorant - or dedicated to not noticing - to not notice that most of the animosity has been directed against whites, not by whites against others. Case in point: Jorge Ramos saying to Mexicans that "American is our country, not theirs."

    I’m not trying to imply anything about Mr. Fred Reed here,

    but I’m just sayin’

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    I wouldn't be surprised but this Mexico and Mexican worship seems to infect many of the expats in Mexico. When I lived in Mexico, the only people I found who thought Mexico was a wonderful place and just loved, loved Mexicans were the gringos. Most of the Mexicans I met would rather live elsewhere (the US or Europe) and didn't trust other Mexicans.
  182. @jpzz
    Really badly written and reasoned pro invasion article with all the same unproven claims about how its "impossible" to deport large groups of people and other straw men.

    I might as well be reading the establishment propaganda at the NY Times or Washington Post.

    At least Fred spared us the crap about our invaders coming here to grow the GDP and solve hard math problems.

    I’ll give him props for being honest: his favorite people are here to loot, so let them loot in peace; if we are too mean to them, they will beat us up; so we gots to be nice.

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  183. @GW
    Go home beaners!

    Hey, what??? You can’t say beaners on Sailer’s blog, but you can here. Who would have thought?

    “I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana.”

    More beans for you in the video. Don’t knock ‘em though; they are very good for you.

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  184. For years there have been said to be 11 million illegals, a number having a suspicious stability. Foes of immigration have put it at thirteen or fourteen. Call it at least 12 million. To deport them in two years, Trump would have to deport 500,000 a month. For twenty-four months. To deport a tenth as many, he would need to expel 50,000 a month.

    1.08 million illegals were deported during the 1st year of “Operation Wetback”- 1954. Only 750 border patrol agents were initially deployed.

    IOW, after President Trumps 2nd term the problem will be largely solved.

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  185. @Berty

    The Historic Native Born White American Majority
     
    I see that sperging retard is still among us. Poor predictable iSteve.

    Berty…the prissy old paleocon…..Carry on Berty!!!!!…..on life support…

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    What the fuck is up with the iSteve comments lately? I swear they get more and more incoherent every day. Must be the increase in retirees with nothing better to do.
  186. @Alden
    Is the girl in the White shirt supposed to be cute? I'd say 3 out of 10. But then I don't like the potato between 2 grapefruits type of face.

    There's a formula for the perfect Caucasian face which also works well for black women. It's called egg shaped or oval. The face is about 1/3 longer than it is wide, the chin and jaw are at least 1/3 narrower than the widest part and the eyes are widely spaced. The lips are shaped and defined.

    A potato between 2 grapefruits and shapeless blobs of lips is just not attractive and really, really doesn't look well as one gets older.

    Is the girl in the White shirt supposed to be cute? I’d say 3 out of 10.

    I never mix politics and attraction.

    I am the biggest anti Latino racist you will ever meet but there is no question that the median, young, non fat, Latina is hotter than the median, young, non fat white girl. Obviously if you don’t control for obesity the mean white girls are going to better looking but cause Latinos tend to be fat pigs, but the young Latinas who aren’t fat are pretty damn hot. Hotter than the typical white girl for sure.

    The problem with Latinas is that they just don’t produce a lot of 10s. There is no Latina answer to Emma Watson or Keira Knightley.

    As for the girl in the pic, I would say she is a 5.5 or a 6. Not beautiful, but cute enough. Honestly she is less attractive than most young Latina’s I’ve seen, Fred could have found a much better example to make his case.

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    there is no question that the median, young, non fat, Latina is hotter than the median, young, non fat white girl.
     
    Hmm. I'm not inclined to agree, but to make a more fair conclusion, I've decided to continue my extensive field research in this area...
  187. @dfordoom

    The alt-right won’t like this, but Fred is right
     
    The alt-right won’t accept this reality because the alt-right is just as irrational as the SJWs. The alt-righters, like liberals, inhabit a fantasy world (a fantasy world populated by cartoon frogs).

    The alt rt is the reason the [[[establishment]]] got a great big FU on election day… Kekekek.

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    • Replies: @dfordoom

    The alt rt is the reason the [[[establishment]]] got a great big FU on election day… Kekekek.
     
    Personally I doubt if the average Trump voter had even heard of the alt-right.
  188. @Corvinus
    "Ms. Corvina"

    It's sir, actually.

    "Please tell us why Mexico is part of North America."

    As your source clearly indicated, North America maintains various definitions in accordance with location and context. Mexico resides on the continent of North America. Central America is not a continent, but a region of North America.

    I’ve never heard a Mexican refer to their country as “Norte America.” That is a description reserved exclusively for the gringos…You are a typical bookish SJW making observations from an ivory tower.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I’ve never heard a Mexican refer to their country as “Norte America.”"

    Thanks for the irrelevancy here. A Mexican refers to their nation as Mexico, which is part of the continent known as North America.

    "That is a description reserved exclusively for the gringos…You are a typical bookish SJW making observations from an ivory tower."

    I suppose you had to characterize me in order to look good in front of your boyzzz at Vox Populi. Your induction as a future Vile Faceless Minion depends on such conduct.
  189. Trump is just a recent immigrant, another product of gastarbeiters. The white thrash who voted for him are unique in the world because they were dumped from their original countries and are far worse nowadays than 50 years ago when at least they still believed in the American Dream. Now the United States is a hell under international Jewish right wing dominion, the United States are doomed and people should know when they are conquered…

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  190. We don’t have to deport them Fred. We just have to make it clear to the people who hire them for cheap labor that this action is criminal. Enforce the law.

    They will go home on their own and we can begin to repair our republic.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "We just have to make it clear to the people who hire them for cheap labor that this action is criminal. Enforce the law."

    Absolutely.

    "They will go home on their own and we can begin to repair our republic."

    Assuming that Mexicans have played a major role in destroying our country. A mighty big assumption.
  191. Fred might have married a Mexican citizen, but I don’t think he married a mestiza.

    On one of his many blogs from some years ago he mentioned that his girlfriend was a Sephardic.

    Interesting that Fred would hook up with one of the few “princesses” in all of Mexico.

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  192. @Stonehands
    The alt rt is the reason the [[[establishment]]] got a great big FU on election day... Kekekek.

    The alt rt is the reason the [[[establishment]]] got a great big FU on election day… Kekekek.

    Personally I doubt if the average Trump voter had even heard of the alt-right.

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  193. @Achmed E. Newman
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH1g3U_umos

    I'm not trying to imply anything about Mr. Fred Reed here,

    but I'm just sayin'

    I wouldn’t be surprised but this Mexico and Mexican worship seems to infect many of the expats in Mexico. When I lived in Mexico, the only people I found who thought Mexico was a wonderful place and just loved, loved Mexicans were the gringos. Most of the Mexicans I met would rather live elsewhere (the US or Europe) and didn’t trust other Mexicans.

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  194. @Stonehands
    I've never heard a Mexican refer to their country as "Norte America." That is a description reserved exclusively for the gringos...You are a typical bookish SJW making observations from an ivory tower.

    “I’ve never heard a Mexican refer to their country as “Norte America.””

    Thanks for the irrelevancy here. A Mexican refers to their nation as Mexico, which is part of the continent known as North America.

    “That is a description reserved exclusively for the gringos…You are a typical bookish SJW making observations from an ivory tower.”

    I suppose you had to characterize me in order to look good in front of your boyzzz at Vox Populi. Your induction as a future Vile Faceless Minion depends on such conduct.

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    • Replies: @Ron Unz

    “I’ve never heard a Mexican refer to their country as “Norte America.””

    Thanks for the irrelevancy here. A Mexican refers to their nation as Mexico, which is part of the continent known as North America.
     
    Actually, I had the impression that Mexicans generally call people from the U.S. "Norte-Americanos" or something like that...
    , @Stonehands
    "Personally I doubt if the average Trump voter had even heard of the alt-right..."

    The average Trump voter is sick to death of the slug Bush, fag Rubio, all the Clintards,J. McBloodstain, et al.

    The screwy jewy wars, Bruce Gender & etc.

    We are alt rt by default- an idea that is still coming into its own- whether we "know it" or not.

  195. @lavoisier
    We don't have to deport them Fred. We just have to make it clear to the people who hire them for cheap labor that this action is criminal. Enforce the law.

    They will go home on their own and we can begin to repair our republic.

    “We just have to make it clear to the people who hire them for cheap labor that this action is criminal. Enforce the law.”

    Absolutely.

    “They will go home on their own and we can begin to repair our republic.”

    Assuming that Mexicans have played a major role in destroying our country. A mighty big assumption.

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    • Replies: @lavoisier
    Without rule of law, you cannot have a functioning republic. It is as simple as that.

    They are not the cause of the problem, they are merely one of the many obvious manifestations of what happens to a nation without laws. And most are reliable Democrats, which is another strike against them.

    The real problem is that our corrupted elected officials have allowed the few to enrich themselves exploiting this cheap labor at the expense of the rest of us.

    The last time the few were permitted to enrich themselves by exploiting cheap labor we fought a Civil War over the issue.

    This has to stop.
  196. @Corvinus
    "I’ve never heard a Mexican refer to their country as “Norte America.”"

    Thanks for the irrelevancy here. A Mexican refers to their nation as Mexico, which is part of the continent known as North America.

    "That is a description reserved exclusively for the gringos…You are a typical bookish SJW making observations from an ivory tower."

    I suppose you had to characterize me in order to look good in front of your boyzzz at Vox Populi. Your induction as a future Vile Faceless Minion depends on such conduct.

    “I’ve never heard a Mexican refer to their country as “Norte America.””

    Thanks for the irrelevancy here. A Mexican refers to their nation as Mexico, which is part of the continent known as North America.

    Actually, I had the impression that Mexicans generally call people from the U.S. “Norte-Americanos” or something like that…

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    • Replies: @David
    In Honduras, Norte-Americano is only a white American. For other Americans, they say, Chino, Negro, Indio, etc., just like they would call them at home.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Hey, Ron. Here's something you'll find interesting.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/business/china-trade-manufacturing-europe.html

    BEIJING — China has charted out a $300 billion plan to become nearly self-sufficient by 2025 in a range of important industries, from planes to computer chips to electric cars, as it looks to kick-start its next stage of economic development.

    But big companies in the rest of the world worry that it is more than that: an unfair advantage in China’s home court, and perhaps elsewhere.

    A report by a European business group on Tuesday said the “Made in China 2025” program, which calls for enormous Chinese government assistance to 10 industries, would force out competitors from abroad and lead to government-subsidized global players that would compete unfairly. Indeed, the Chinese government’s plan says Chinese industries that benefit should own as much as 80 percent of their home market in just eight years.

    “The Chinese make it clear that they want to be the global champion” and are trying to carve out market share now, said Joerg Wuttke, the president of the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China, which wrote the report.

    The plan’s mechanism is simple: It would provide large, low-interest loans from state-owned investment funds and development banks; assistance in buying foreign competitors; and extensive research subsidies, all with the goal of making China largely self-sufficient in the targeted industries.

    Although European and American government officials have expressed misgivings about the plan, the Chinese government has made clear in recent days that it plans to press on.

    “We will fully implement our plan for developing strategic emerging industries,” Premier Li Keqiang said in his annual speech to the National People’s Congress on Sunday. “We will accelerate R. & D. on and commercialization of new materials, artificial intelligence, integrated circuits, bio-pharmacy, 5G mobile communications and other technologies, and develop industrial clusters in these fields.”

    In addition to the sectors Mr. Li cited, the plan also covers the manufacturing of aircraft, robots, electric cars, rail equipment, ships and agricultural machinery. China seeks to wean itself off imports from companies like Boeing, Airbus, General Electric, Siemens, Nissan, Renault, Samsung and Intel.
     
  197. @Corvinus
    "I’ve never heard a Mexican refer to their country as “Norte America.”"

    Thanks for the irrelevancy here. A Mexican refers to their nation as Mexico, which is part of the continent known as North America.

    "That is a description reserved exclusively for the gringos…You are a typical bookish SJW making observations from an ivory tower."

    I suppose you had to characterize me in order to look good in front of your boyzzz at Vox Populi. Your induction as a future Vile Faceless Minion depends on such conduct.

    “Personally I doubt if the average Trump voter had even heard of the alt-right…”

    The average Trump voter is sick to death of the slug Bush, fag Rubio, all the Clintards,J. McBloodstain, et al.

    The screwy jewy wars, Bruce Gender & etc.

    We are alt rt by default- an idea that is still coming into its own- whether we “know it” or not.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    “Personally I doubt if the average Trump voter had even heard of the alt-right…”

    I never made this statement. Regardless, the average Trump voter, some of whom had voted for Obama for eight years, chose Trump because 1) Hillary was a historically flawed candidate, 2) he was the "lesser of two evils", 3) he reached out to the working classes--something Sanders did in the primaries, and 4) he focused on key issues--immigration and outsourcing--that resonated with the American people.

    "The screwy jewy wars, Bruce Gender & etc."

    Everything is not the result of Jews.

    "We are alt rt by default- an idea that is still coming into its own- whether we “know it” or not."

    Alternative right is not an inborn trait. Please, just stop.
  198. I AGREE with Fred. But require that all illegals MUST undergo compulsory irreversible sterilization. No exceptions.

    Use ‘em and lose ‘em.

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  199. Totally agree Fred, we’ll take every chica that Heartiste or a minion of his rates HB8 or more (got to leave room for regression to mean). Neck tatted cholos can stay in Mexico.

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  200. Fascinating to watch Fred over the years shift sides when it comes to the flood of Mexicans into the US. I’m reading a collection of his essays from around 2002 to 2004 called A Brass Pole in Bangkok. He was writing at that time about the hidden anger Americans had to trends that were forced upon them that forbidden to be addressed in public. One of them was “the Mexican invasion.” Now, Fred believes that only hateful people want to boot all of them out so he sides with the global elite these days. Never mind that Mexicans don’t tolerate illegal immigration into their own country.

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  201. @Ron Unz

    “I’ve never heard a Mexican refer to their country as “Norte America.””

    Thanks for the irrelevancy here. A Mexican refers to their nation as Mexico, which is part of the continent known as North America.
     
    Actually, I had the impression that Mexicans generally call people from the U.S. "Norte-Americanos" or something like that...

    In Honduras, Norte-Americano is only a white American. For other Americans, they say, Chino, Negro, Indio, etc., just like they would call them at home.

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  202. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    I see that Fred's new hobby is building strawmen.

    First, you're right, Fred, we'd never physically deport 12 million people. It just wouldn't fly, though similar sized explusions can be seen repeatedly throughout history so let's not act as though this is some impossible task. However, if you severely curtail the illegals' employment and welfare opportunities, many will deport themselves. In addition, their difficulties will deter others from illegally coming across the border.

    Think of it this way. While I don't want Mexicans, I do want their country's immigration policies.

    Also, Fred, you seem to have rather poor opinion of white nationalists. However, I do not think the word nationalist means what you think it means. I don't hate Mestizos. I don't want bad things to happen to them. I wish them well . . . in their own land. I don't want to live around whites because I hate other groups. I want to live around whites because they are my people and I want the freedom to associate with whom I choose. I want a homeland for my people.

    Fred the globalist. Odd.

    For those whites who wish to marry and have children with the mestizos already living here, I wish you all the best. By all means, live your life the way you want and there certainly are many good Mexican Americans out there. However, do not take umbrage if you and your family are no longer considered a part of our community. To preserve our people and culture, we must draw lines; otherwise, we are no longer a people. It's a harsh reality but a reality nonetheless.

    And since Fred is so fond of showing pretty, young ladies (with a significant amount of European ancestry) as an example of Mexicans and Central Americans coming to the states, let me include a picture of what I see just as often driving down the street.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CJ6jViWeY9M/hqdefault.jpg

    The guys in the pic are Mara Salvatrucha gang members. Mexico doesn’t want them back, and if they were sent back, they’d be back here in a flash. They’re like an invading army, except they’re civilians, so the thing to do with these guys is to send them to a tropical country. Cuba, Guantanamo, to be precise. They can stay there.

    As for the Mexicans who are here, who have held steady employment for three years, who haven’t been arrested for drugs, DUI, or misdemeanors or felonies, and who haven’t collected welfare benefits, give them green cards, and put them on a fast track for citizenship. They learn English sufficient to live here and do the things they need to do in life, they learn enough to pass the citizenship test – given in English – and swear loyalty to the US – and they become citizens. The border should be closed until such time as the US is able to accept new people coming in, and then it’s a trade, for every one coming in, one person who is a second- or third-generation welfare recipient goes to Mexico.

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  203. Exactly!
    If he wants to date Mexican women, fine. Just don’t make a @#%¥ religion about it.

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  204. Short-term solution: Operation Wetback II, using the Operation Wetback tactics that prompted invading job stealers and culture mutators to retreat.

    Long-term solution: Renegotiate the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

    For the sake of the Electoral College and for the US to remain a first-world Western nation, America must rid itself of Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Zuckerberg, and Merryl Streep.

    The land transfer would begin once Mexico accepts another ten million illegals fleeing Operation Wetback II from the other states and builds a tall, wide, and deep Israeli-quality border wall.

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  205. @Greasy William

    Is the girl in the White shirt supposed to be cute? I’d say 3 out of 10.
     
    I never mix politics and attraction.

    I am the biggest anti Latino racist you will ever meet but there is no question that the median, young, non fat, Latina is hotter than the median, young, non fat white girl. Obviously if you don't control for obesity the mean white girls are going to better looking but cause Latinos tend to be fat pigs, but the young Latinas who aren't fat are pretty damn hot. Hotter than the typical white girl for sure.

    The problem with Latinas is that they just don't produce a lot of 10s. There is no Latina answer to Emma Watson or Keira Knightley.

    As for the girl in the pic, I would say she is a 5.5 or a 6. Not beautiful, but cute enough. Honestly she is less attractive than most young Latina's I've seen, Fred could have found a much better example to make his case.

    there is no question that the median, young, non fat, Latina is hotter than the median, young, non fat white girl.

    Hmm. I’m not inclined to agree, but to make a more fair conclusion, I’ve decided to continue my extensive field research in this area…

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    • Replies: @gwynedd1
    Not if they are Eastern European.
    And I have done the research.
  206. @Stonehands
    "Personally I doubt if the average Trump voter had even heard of the alt-right..."

    The average Trump voter is sick to death of the slug Bush, fag Rubio, all the Clintards,J. McBloodstain, et al.

    The screwy jewy wars, Bruce Gender & etc.

    We are alt rt by default- an idea that is still coming into its own- whether we "know it" or not.

    “Personally I doubt if the average Trump voter had even heard of the alt-right…”

    I never made this statement. Regardless, the average Trump voter, some of whom had voted for Obama for eight years, chose Trump because 1) Hillary was a historically flawed candidate, 2) he was the “lesser of two evils”, 3) he reached out to the working classes–something Sanders did in the primaries, and 4) he focused on key issues–immigration and outsourcing–that resonated with the American people.

    “The screwy jewy wars, Bruce Gender & etc.”

    Everything is not the result of Jews.

    “We are alt rt by default- an idea that is still coming into its own- whether we “know it” or not.”

    Alternative right is not an inborn trait. Please, just stop.

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    • Replies: @Stonehands

    ... the average Trump voter, some of whom had voted for Obama for eight years, chose Trump because 1) Hillary was a historically flawed candidate, 2) he was the “lesser of two evils”, 3) he reached out to the working classes–something Sanders did in the primaries, and 4) he focused on key issues–immigration and outsourcing–that resonated with the American people.
     



    Exactly, core alt rt positions.

    Certainly not GOPe, which I plainly stated.

    Pay attention, your endless petty sniping is wearying.
  207. @bomag

    there is no question that the median, young, non fat, Latina is hotter than the median, young, non fat white girl.
     
    Hmm. I'm not inclined to agree, but to make a more fair conclusion, I've decided to continue my extensive field research in this area...

    Not if they are Eastern European.
    And I have done the research.

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  208. Mass deportation was a loony idea to begin with.

    Only to shit heads like Fred Reed who ignores Eisenhower’s policies that did exactly that. Reed is a true globalist traitor. Add him to the target list.

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    • Replies: @dfordoom


    Mass deportation was a loony idea to begin with.
     
    Only to shit heads like Fred Reed who ignores Eisenhower’s policies that did exactly that.
     
    Eisenhower didn't have the problem of mass media who would portray deportations as worse than anything the Nazis did. He didn't have the judiciary determined to undermine him. He didn't have to deal with treacherous Republicans in Congress. He didn't have the problem of an education system that brainwashed people into believing that borders were evil and Nazi. In Eisenhower's time mass deportations were politically do-able. They're not do-able today.
  209. They are not Latinos, they are Aztecs and Mayans. In other words native americans.

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  210. @Anon
    Jim:

    Courts have indeed weighed in on this issues. I quote below from a SCOTUS landmark case in immigration law, the Wong Kim Ark 1898 decision.

    Hon. Horace Gray, Supreme Court Justice for the majority in this decision, wrote a concise statement of the question asked in this case.
    “[W]hether a child born in the United States, of parents of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States by virtue of the first clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution.”

    Got? Children of immigrants are only US Citizens if the immigrants are here legally. It's obvious that knucklehead judges have not paid attention or have ignored precedent, but WKA is indeed the correct precedent for this situation.

    What an informative comment, given time I’ll read up on it. Meanwhile, a great many Hispanic kids have gone to school and graduated with high marks and behaved themselves otherwise and I want my moneys worth from the tax dollars that they managed to educate themselves on, despite being trapped in public schools. The rest will have to chop cotton or starve.

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  211. @War for Blair Mountain
    Berty...the prissy old paleocon.....Carry on Berty!!!!!.....on life support...

    What the fuck is up with the iSteve comments lately? I swear they get more and more incoherent every day. Must be the increase in retirees with nothing better to do.

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  212. When the wannabe Kings and nobles of the latter days get done, your grandkids will be just as retarded and ugly as the groups you guys criticize, despite being blue eyed and flaxen haired, in part because white women are not from a gene pool which must be even more efficient than the average female mammal at turning food into fat and fat into dairy products. Generations of starvation imposed by the Dons, produces fat women rather than pretty ones or intellectual ones.

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  213. @Corvinus
    “Personally I doubt if the average Trump voter had even heard of the alt-right…”

    I never made this statement. Regardless, the average Trump voter, some of whom had voted for Obama for eight years, chose Trump because 1) Hillary was a historically flawed candidate, 2) he was the "lesser of two evils", 3) he reached out to the working classes--something Sanders did in the primaries, and 4) he focused on key issues--immigration and outsourcing--that resonated with the American people.

    "The screwy jewy wars, Bruce Gender & etc."

    Everything is not the result of Jews.

    "We are alt rt by default- an idea that is still coming into its own- whether we “know it” or not."

    Alternative right is not an inborn trait. Please, just stop.

    … the average Trump voter, some of whom had voted for Obama for eight years, chose Trump because 1) Hillary was a historically flawed candidate, 2) he was the “lesser of two evils”, 3) he reached out to the working classes–something Sanders did in the primaries, and 4) he focused on key issues–immigration and outsourcing–that resonated with the American people.

    Exactly, core alt rt positions.

    Certainly not GOPe, which I plainly stated.

    Pay attention, your endless petty sniping is wearying.

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    "Exactly, core alt rt positions."

    No, core positions of conservatives, some of whom belong to the Democratic and Republican Party. Immigration restriction has long been a policy of the GOP rank and file. Across rural America, the Rust Belt, and Coal Country, these traditionally Democratic voters, the ones who had supported Obama, expressed frustration that their interests would not be addressed in the same way as Trump. We shall see if he delivers the goods.
  214. @Corvinus
    "We just have to make it clear to the people who hire them for cheap labor that this action is criminal. Enforce the law."

    Absolutely.

    "They will go home on their own and we can begin to repair our republic."

    Assuming that Mexicans have played a major role in destroying our country. A mighty big assumption.

    Without rule of law, you cannot have a functioning republic. It is as simple as that.

    They are not the cause of the problem, they are merely one of the many obvious manifestations of what happens to a nation without laws. And most are reliable Democrats, which is another strike against them.

    The real problem is that our corrupted elected officials have allowed the few to enrich themselves exploiting this cheap labor at the expense of the rest of us.

    The last time the few were permitted to enrich themselves by exploiting cheap labor we fought a Civil War over the issue.

    This has to stop.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Without rule of law, you cannot have a functioning republic. It is as simple as that."

    Indeed, enforce current laws on the books, whether it be directed toward illegal immigrants, or southern crackers, or northern hoods, or corporate bigwigs.

    "The real problem is that our corrupted elected officials have allowed the few to enrich themselves exploiting this cheap labor at the expense of the rest of us."

    Do not the elites have the liberty to do what they want with their property? Do they not have the liberty to make profits? How do you ensure that these companies hire more American workers at higher wages without raising prices in the process? Would not such economic coercion fly in the face of capitalism?
  215. @Ron Unz

    “I’ve never heard a Mexican refer to their country as “Norte America.””

    Thanks for the irrelevancy here. A Mexican refers to their nation as Mexico, which is part of the continent known as North America.
     
    Actually, I had the impression that Mexicans generally call people from the U.S. "Norte-Americanos" or something like that...

    Hey, Ron. Here’s something you’ll find interesting.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/business/china-trade-manufacturing-europe.html

    BEIJING — China has charted out a $300 billion plan to become nearly self-sufficient by 2025 in a range of important industries, from planes to computer chips to electric cars, as it looks to kick-start its next stage of economic development.

    But big companies in the rest of the world worry that it is more than that: an unfair advantage in China’s home court, and perhaps elsewhere.

    A report by a European business group on Tuesday said the “Made in China 2025” program, which calls for enormous Chinese government assistance to 10 industries, would force out competitors from abroad and lead to government-subsidized global players that would compete unfairly. Indeed, the Chinese government’s plan says Chinese industries that benefit should own as much as 80 percent of their home market in just eight years.

    “The Chinese make it clear that they want to be the global champion” and are trying to carve out market share now, said Joerg Wuttke, the president of the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China, which wrote the report.

    The plan’s mechanism is simple: It would provide large, low-interest loans from state-owned investment funds and development banks; assistance in buying foreign competitors; and extensive research subsidies, all with the goal of making China largely self-sufficient in the targeted industries.

    Although European and American government officials have expressed misgivings about the plan, the Chinese government has made clear in recent days that it plans to press on.

    “We will fully implement our plan for developing strategic emerging industries,” Premier Li Keqiang said in his annual speech to the National People’s Congress on Sunday. “We will accelerate R. & D. on and commercialization of new materials, artificial intelligence, integrated circuits, bio-pharmacy, 5G mobile communications and other technologies, and develop industrial clusters in these fields.”

    In addition to the sectors Mr. Li cited, the plan also covers the manufacturing of aircraft, robots, electric cars, rail equipment, ships and agricultural machinery. China seeks to wean itself off imports from companies like Boeing, Airbus, General Electric, Siemens, Nissan, Renault, Samsung and Intel.

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    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    And yet our leaders still see the wisdom of filling our universities with Chinese students, employing Chinese at all levels, transferring technology and industries to China and giving them favorable trade status. I wonder if a nation/people has ever been sold out the way that white Americans have been sold out by their leaders? If I didn't know better, I'd think our rulers despise us. If any group in history deserves the guillotine, it's the people ruling America.
    , @bomag

    China has charted out a $300 billion plan to become nearly self-sufficient by 2025 in a range of important industries
     
    Looks like a bargain. I just saw a blurb where the F 35 program is going to cost us $1.5 trillion.
  216. Fred, I agree, we aren’t going to deport ~11,000,000 people. (I must confess to a weakness for Latin women). White America has been thrown under the proverbial bus in so many different ways over the past ~51 years, beginning with the IRA of 1965.

    I can’t agree with full amnesty and/or path-to-citizenship. We’ve tried that. “Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.”

    So what *is* reasonable? Like you said, stop the influx and incarcerate/deport the genuinely dangerous ones. Stop chain-migration (which I think is mostly a legal immigration issue). Stop abuse of welfare, etc.

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    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    I just can't agree with view that Americans don't have the stomach to deport 50 million (or however many there are) Latinos. I'd enjoy watching them sent packing, and I think many Americans feel the same way. I don't even consider most post-64 immigrants to be Americans in any way. Some immigrant groups that came prior to 1964 have been nothing but trouble, and should have been a lesson on the dangers of large-scale immigration.
  217. @Stonehands

    ... the average Trump voter, some of whom had voted for Obama for eight years, chose Trump because 1) Hillary was a historically flawed candidate, 2) he was the “lesser of two evils”, 3) he reached out to the working classes–something Sanders did in the primaries, and 4) he focused on key issues–immigration and outsourcing–that resonated with the American people.
     



    Exactly, core alt rt positions.

    Certainly not GOPe, which I plainly stated.

    Pay attention, your endless petty sniping is wearying.

    “Exactly, core alt rt positions.”

    No, core positions of conservatives, some of whom belong to the Democratic and Republican Party. Immigration restriction has long been a policy of the GOP rank and file. Across rural America, the Rust Belt, and Coal Country, these traditionally Democratic voters, the ones who had supported Obama, expressed frustration that their interests would not be addressed in the same way as Trump. We shall see if he delivers the goods.

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    • Replies: @Stonehands

    No, core positions of conservatives, some of whom belong to the Democratic and Republican Party.
     
    Pissmire, are you brain dead?

    Willingness to conceive and declare the true evil of the left is a big point of separation between the cuck right and the legitimate right.
  218. @lavoisier
    Without rule of law, you cannot have a functioning republic. It is as simple as that.

    They are not the cause of the problem, they are merely one of the many obvious manifestations of what happens to a nation without laws. And most are reliable Democrats, which is another strike against them.

    The real problem is that our corrupted elected officials have allowed the few to enrich themselves exploiting this cheap labor at the expense of the rest of us.

    The last time the few were permitted to enrich themselves by exploiting cheap labor we fought a Civil War over the issue.

    This has to stop.

    “Without rule of law, you cannot have a functioning republic. It is as simple as that.”

    Indeed, enforce current laws on the books, whether it be directed toward illegal immigrants, or southern crackers, or northern hoods, or corporate bigwigs.

    “The real problem is that our corrupted elected officials have allowed the few to enrich themselves exploiting this cheap labor at the expense of the rest of us.”

    Do not the elites have the liberty to do what they want with their property? Do they not have the liberty to make profits? How do you ensure that these companies hire more American workers at higher wages without raising prices in the process? Would not such economic coercion fly in the face of capitalism?

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    • Replies: @lavoisier
    No need for economic coercion. For the law of supply and demand to work in a nation state it is necessary to have borders.
    , @bomag

    Do not the elites have the liberty to do what they want with their property?
     
    That property derives much of its value from the infrastructure and civil society laid down by earlier generations. They now import cheap labor that does not have the ability or inclination to maintain that infrastructure and civil society.

    "Personnel is policy."
  219. @Jeff77450
    Fred, I agree, we aren't going to deport ~11,000,000 people. (I must confess to a weakness for Latin women). White America has been thrown under the proverbial bus in so many different ways over the past ~51 years, beginning with the IRA of 1965.

    I can't agree with full amnesty and/or path-to-citizenship. We've tried that. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."

    So what *is* reasonable? Like you said, stop the influx and incarcerate/deport the genuinely dangerous ones. Stop chain-migration (which I think is mostly a legal immigration issue). Stop abuse of welfare, etc.

    I just can’t agree with view that Americans don’t have the stomach to deport 50 million (or however many there are) Latinos. I’d enjoy watching them sent packing, and I think many Americans feel the same way. I don’t even consider most post-64 immigrants to be Americans in any way. Some immigrant groups that came prior to 1964 have been nothing but trouble, and should have been a lesson on the dangers of large-scale immigration.

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  220. @Corvinus
    "Without rule of law, you cannot have a functioning republic. It is as simple as that."

    Indeed, enforce current laws on the books, whether it be directed toward illegal immigrants, or southern crackers, or northern hoods, or corporate bigwigs.

    "The real problem is that our corrupted elected officials have allowed the few to enrich themselves exploiting this cheap labor at the expense of the rest of us."

    Do not the elites have the liberty to do what they want with their property? Do they not have the liberty to make profits? How do you ensure that these companies hire more American workers at higher wages without raising prices in the process? Would not such economic coercion fly in the face of capitalism?

    No need for economic coercion. For the law of supply and demand to work in a nation state it is necessary to have borders.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "No need for economic coercion. For the law of supply and demand to work in a nation state it is necessary to have borders."

    You oversimplify matters here. There are other factors involved.
  221. @JohnnyWalker123
    Hey, Ron. Here's something you'll find interesting.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/business/china-trade-manufacturing-europe.html

    BEIJING — China has charted out a $300 billion plan to become nearly self-sufficient by 2025 in a range of important industries, from planes to computer chips to electric cars, as it looks to kick-start its next stage of economic development.

    But big companies in the rest of the world worry that it is more than that: an unfair advantage in China’s home court, and perhaps elsewhere.

    A report by a European business group on Tuesday said the “Made in China 2025” program, which calls for enormous Chinese government assistance to 10 industries, would force out competitors from abroad and lead to government-subsidized global players that would compete unfairly. Indeed, the Chinese government’s plan says Chinese industries that benefit should own as much as 80 percent of their home market in just eight years.

    “The Chinese make it clear that they want to be the global champion” and are trying to carve out market share now, said Joerg Wuttke, the president of the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China, which wrote the report.

    The plan’s mechanism is simple: It would provide large, low-interest loans from state-owned investment funds and development banks; assistance in buying foreign competitors; and extensive research subsidies, all with the goal of making China largely self-sufficient in the targeted industries.

    Although European and American government officials have expressed misgivings about the plan, the Chinese government has made clear in recent days that it plans to press on.

    “We will fully implement our plan for developing strategic emerging industries,” Premier Li Keqiang said in his annual speech to the National People’s Congress on Sunday. “We will accelerate R. & D. on and commercialization of new materials, artificial intelligence, integrated circuits, bio-pharmacy, 5G mobile communications and other technologies, and develop industrial clusters in these fields.”

    In addition to the sectors Mr. Li cited, the plan also covers the manufacturing of aircraft, robots, electric cars, rail equipment, ships and agricultural machinery. China seeks to wean itself off imports from companies like Boeing, Airbus, General Electric, Siemens, Nissan, Renault, Samsung and Intel.
     

    And yet our leaders still see the wisdom of filling our universities with Chinese students, employing Chinese at all levels, transferring technology and industries to China and giving them favorable trade status. I wonder if a nation/people has ever been sold out the way that white Americans have been sold out by their leaders? If I didn’t know better, I’d think our rulers despise us. If any group in history deserves the guillotine, it’s the people ruling America.

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    • Replies: @L.K
    "I’d think our rulers despise us".

    They do.
    However, if your rulers despise you, which they do, and if they have been plundering the white working class and even the middle class, which they have, right at the heart of the Zamerican Empire, and yes, it is an Empire, how do you guys suppose these powerful special interests which rule ZUSA, have been treating those 'third' world countries you despise so much?

    Latin America, Mexico very much included, has been plundered by ZUSA for over a 100 years. That is a fact and a well documented one that few zamericans know or care.
    It did not become known as 'America's Backyard' for nothing.
    United States Marine Corps major general, Smedley D. Butler, in 'War is a Racket' stated:

    “I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
     
    Nothing has changed since then...Economic warfare, destabilization and/or coups of governments in Latin America that ZUSA does not aprove of, have been everyday tools of 'the people ruling ZAmerica' re Latin America.
    The results, desperate immigrants, constitute an obvious byproduct of such policies. For ex, Re the increase in Honduran immigration to the US in the past years & Trumps wall, writes author W.Blum:

    So much cheaper. So much easier. So much more humane. So much more popular. … Just stop overthrowing or destabilizing governments south of the border.

    And the United States certainly has a moral obligation to do this. So many of the immigrants are escaping a situation in their homeland made hopeless by American intervention and policy. The particularly severe increase in Honduran migration to the US in recent years is a direct result of the June 28, 2009 military coup that overthrew the democratically-elected president, Manuel Zelaya, after he did things like raising the minimum wage, giving subsidies to small farmers, and instituting free education. The coup – like so many others in Latin America – was led by a graduate of Washington’s infamous School of the Americas.
     
  222. @dc.sunsets
    Mestizos have a home. It is NOT in North America.

    If conditions in North America become hostile enough, they will go home. For me, this IS my home. If I'm not here (USA), I'm on vacation somewhere. It's really that simple.

    I am far from alone in being upset that when I visit a local store it now looks like I was magically transported to Quintana Roo or somewhere equally "south." My local WalMart looks no less Mayan than did a visit to Sam Walton's big box in Downtown Cancun 15 years ago.

    An invasion without guns is still defined by the numbers (and concentration) of outsiders. The USA has been invaded and large parts of it are now Occupied Lands.

    Fred can take his sanctimony and ram it where the sigmoidoscopes don't shine. They have to go home, we can cook our own restaurant meals, pick our own crops and mow our own lawns.

    I definitely agree! Too many and too short of time. Stay down in Mexico Fred or wherever you are. I don’t want my country turning into a banana republic.

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    You poor bastard, you have been living in a banana republic - ZUSA - for decades and you don't even realize it! So sad...
  223. @Jason Liu
    The alt-right won't like this, but Fred is right. There is no politically plausible way to deport all the illegals, let alone legal Latinos and other nonwhites, unless you're willing to go full fascist and shed blood. Even then you'd need overwhelming support from the 65% of whites in America, many of whom are leftists and mentally unfit.

    The only path for white nationalists is some kind of separatism, effectively ending the USA as you know it. But that's unlikely too. Homogenizing a country that's already this diverse without splitting into smaller states would be a first in history. The closest thing would be the departure of large Greek minorities from Turkey, or whites from Zimbabwe. But while they made up a large percentage of the host population, they did not number in the tens of millions. Raw numbers do make a difference when it comes to ethnic nationalism, because at a critical mass people will feel entitled to a piece of land.

    If you have practical means of homogenizing a nation, I'd like to hear it for future reference.

    No need to physically enforce and scare tactics from the likes of you. Simply, enforce the damn laws! Punish employers who hire them(e-verify), no public assistance, tax them sending money back “hone”, and speak effing English!

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  224. @lavoisier
    No need for economic coercion. For the law of supply and demand to work in a nation state it is necessary to have borders.

    “No need for economic coercion. For the law of supply and demand to work in a nation state it is necessary to have borders.”

    You oversimplify matters here. There are other factors involved.

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  225. About the only thing I can say in favor of the mestizo invasion is that it has impacted blacks a great deal and they now have to watch their neighborhoods slowly get destroyed and themselves ethnically cleansed from areas , sometimes violently, much as they did to whites throughout the mid 20th century until today.

    I do admire that Mexicans are racially conscious and not afraid to fight to defend their honor, whereas whites, who are steeped in equality and race doesn’t matterism from birth, do not. Years ago the Nation of Islam made an appearance at a California high school to protect blacks who were being bullied but wound up getting chased out by Mexicans. Classic.

    Stories like that bring a smile to my eyes since blacks are getting their comeuppance. I’d rather they not be here, but Mexicans do know how to take care of business when it comes to uppity blacks.

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  226. @Amasius
    Latinos are awesome.

    https://www.amren.com/features/2017/03/white-teacher-brown-school/

    Great students, great people, great future for America.

    It’s funny. The (fictional) flip side of his story is retailed 24/7/365 in the MSM, but testimony like his will never, ever be aired there. Which means, of course, that 99.9% of the population will never hear of it.

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  227. @Buck Turgidson
    Not if they are here illegally do we need to "get used to them." They are going home, where they belong. We have immigration laws and we want them enforced. This does not make us bad guys, any more than the Chinese or Mexicans or Poles enforcing immigration laws does not make them bad guys. There is no debate in my mind about legal immigrants, who in my view are here as citizens and aren't going anywhere. We are overimmigrated though and we need a time out and some 'me time' for all US citizens of all ethnicity and religions, and we need a few decades to sort out and assimilate a decades-long immigration tidal wave. Time out. No more. Moratorium. We are full. I don't want to live in an overcrowded third world of a .5 billion big-traffic, no-open-space self-inflicted nightmare. I am tired of people who want to frame this debate in terms of evil white people who don't like brown people. Bravo. Sierra. We are the most damned welcoming nation on the planet of people from different cultures and ethnicities. Dump 1 million Chinese in Mexico, or vice versa, and see how that works out. But just because I like water does not mean that I want 15 feet of it in my living room.

    Sadly though, even on a site like this, and even from someone as generally perceptive as Fred, we get advice to just lie back and try to enjoy it. I agree that we should fight while we can, but it’s hard to be hopeful. Even our president, whose election was little short of a miracle, is being neutered.

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    • Replies: @KenH

    Even our president, whose election was little short of a miracle, is being neutered.
     
    I guess I'm not the only one who'ss noticed. 80% of Trump's votes came from whites yet since he's been in office his priority has been on helping blacks and he hasn't slammed the door shut on some kind of legal status for "non-criminal" illegal aliens.

    I hate the Democrats but at least they know where their loyalties lie unlike cucked Republicans who are constantly making overtures to people that openly hate them .
  228. @woodNfish

    Mass deportation was a loony idea to begin with.
     
    Only to shit heads like Fred Reed who ignores Eisenhower's policies that did exactly that. Reed is a true globalist traitor. Add him to the target list.

    Mass deportation was a loony idea to begin with.

    Only to shit heads like Fred Reed who ignores Eisenhower’s policies that did exactly that.

    Eisenhower didn’t have the problem of mass media who would portray deportations as worse than anything the Nazis did. He didn’t have the judiciary determined to undermine him. He didn’t have to deal with treacherous Republicans in Congress. He didn’t have the problem of an education system that brainwashed people into believing that borders were evil and Nazi. In Eisenhower’s time mass deportations were politically do-able. They’re not do-able today.

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    • Replies: @woodNfish
    They are doable, but you are also correct about the powers arrayed against Trump. Even so, in what way does that change the fact that Reed is a shithead?
    , @dc.sunsets

    They're not do-able today.
     
    Times are a' changing. Have you not noticed?

    When the Illusion that Uncle Sam can spend without limit and has no need to tax is finally gone (in no more than a couple years, I'd imagine), the public thirst to 1) cut off immigrants from welfare of any kind, including treatment of arterial bleeding in the ER for free and 2) find scapegoats will be EPIC.

    Post-1965 immigration and the disastrous results of the Diversity Era will combine to provide the most target-rich environment for punitive rage EVER.

    Just hang around a bit longer. Often, the weather forecast isn't wrong, it's just a little mis-timed.
  229. @dfordoom


    Mass deportation was a loony idea to begin with.
     
    Only to shit heads like Fred Reed who ignores Eisenhower’s policies that did exactly that.
     
    Eisenhower didn't have the problem of mass media who would portray deportations as worse than anything the Nazis did. He didn't have the judiciary determined to undermine him. He didn't have to deal with treacherous Republicans in Congress. He didn't have the problem of an education system that brainwashed people into believing that borders were evil and Nazi. In Eisenhower's time mass deportations were politically do-able. They're not do-able today.

    They are doable, but you are also correct about the powers arrayed against Trump. Even so, in what way does that change the fact that Reed is a shithead?

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I don't think he's a shithead, Mr. Fish. He's just pussywhipped, as I documented in post 156 (Fred must be hard to make out in the video) (kidding about who's in the video - I don't know that lady ;-)

    The problem with this type of nonsensical writing on behalf of Fred is that it is way off of the truth. Fred may know that consciously or just be deluding himself about it, but it makes me lose trust in his writing. Some of his past stuff has been just great in content, and he has a great writing style.

    Get back to the truth, Fred.
  230. @woodNfish
    They are doable, but you are also correct about the powers arrayed against Trump. Even so, in what way does that change the fact that Reed is a shithead?

    I don’t think he’s a shithead, Mr. Fish. He’s just pussywhipped, as I documented in post 156 (Fred must be hard to make out in the video) (kidding about who’s in the video – I don’t know that lady ;-)

    The problem with this type of nonsensical writing on behalf of Fred is that it is way off of the truth. Fred may know that consciously or just be deluding himself about it, but it makes me lose trust in his writing. Some of his past stuff has been just great in content, and he has a great writing style.

    Get back to the truth, Fred.

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    Some of his past stuff has been just great in content
     
    And therein lies the problem, Mr. Newman; it is in the past. Ever since November 4th, Reed has been suffering from Trump derangement syndrome. He has been writing crap ever since.
  231. @timamac
    I definitely agree! Too many and too short of time. Stay down in Mexico Fred or wherever you are. I don't want my country turning into a banana republic.

    You poor bastard, you have been living in a banana republic – ZUSA – for decades and you don’t even realize it! So sad…

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  232. @Corvinus
    "Exactly, core alt rt positions."

    No, core positions of conservatives, some of whom belong to the Democratic and Republican Party. Immigration restriction has long been a policy of the GOP rank and file. Across rural America, the Rust Belt, and Coal Country, these traditionally Democratic voters, the ones who had supported Obama, expressed frustration that their interests would not be addressed in the same way as Trump. We shall see if he delivers the goods.

    No, core positions of conservatives, some of whom belong to the Democratic and Republican Party.

    Pissmire, are you brain dead?

    Willingness to conceive and declare the true evil of the left is a big point of separation between the cuck right and the legitimate right.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Willingness to conceive and declare the true evil of the left is a big point of separation between the cuck right and the legitimate right."

    Those on the right and on the left who declare that their opposing side as "evil" is soaked in confirmation bias. Moreover, the term "cuck" is a meaningless meme and a classic SJW shaming tactic. There is the "Right" and the "Left". Within each group, there are factions who seek to control the agenda and narrative. Those factions will inevitably declare those who deviate from the core values as being other than legitimate, other than dedicated to the cause. You are no different than a radical lefty in this regard.
  233. @OilcanFloyd
    And yet our leaders still see the wisdom of filling our universities with Chinese students, employing Chinese at all levels, transferring technology and industries to China and giving them favorable trade status. I wonder if a nation/people has ever been sold out the way that white Americans have been sold out by their leaders? If I didn't know better, I'd think our rulers despise us. If any group in history deserves the guillotine, it's the people ruling America.

    “I’d think our rulers despise us”.

    They do.
    However, if your rulers despise you, which they do, and if they have been plundering the white working class and even the middle class, which they have, right at the heart of the Zamerican Empire, and yes, it is an Empire, how do you guys suppose these powerful special interests which rule ZUSA, have been treating those ‘third’ world countries you despise so much?

    Latin America, Mexico very much included, has been plundered by ZUSA for over a 100 years. That is a fact and a well documented one that few zamericans know or care.
    It did not become known as ‘America’s Backyard’ for nothing.
    United States Marine Corps major general, Smedley D. Butler, in ‘War is a Racket’ stated:

    “I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”

    Nothing has changed since then…Economic warfare, destabilization and/or coups of governments in Latin America that ZUSA does not aprove of, have been everyday tools of ‘the people ruling ZAmerica’ re Latin America.
    The results, desperate immigrants, constitute an obvious byproduct of such policies. For ex, Re the increase in Honduran immigration to the US in the past years & Trumps wall, writes author W.Blum:

    So much cheaper. So much easier. So much more humane. So much more popular. … Just stop overthrowing or destabilizing governments south of the border.

    And the United States certainly has a moral obligation to do this. So many of the immigrants are escaping a situation in their homeland made hopeless by American intervention and policy. The particularly severe increase in Honduran migration to the US in recent years is a direct result of the June 28, 2009 military coup that overthrew the democratically-elected president, Manuel Zelaya, after he did things like raising the minimum wage, giving subsidies to small farmers, and instituting free education. The coup – like so many others in Latin America – was led by a graduate of Washington’s infamous School of the Americas.

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    • Replies: @bomag

    I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street.
     
    A lot of towns and communities in the USA were raped for the benefit of Wall Street; yet they maintained the rule of law, a civil society, and didn't overpopulated themselves into the poor house.
  234. @JohnnyWalker123
    Hey, Ron. Here's something you'll find interesting.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/business/china-trade-manufacturing-europe.html

    BEIJING — China has charted out a $300 billion plan to become nearly self-sufficient by 2025 in a range of important industries, from planes to computer chips to electric cars, as it looks to kick-start its next stage of economic development.

    But big companies in the rest of the world worry that it is more than that: an unfair advantage in China’s home court, and perhaps elsewhere.

    A report by a European business group on Tuesday said the “Made in China 2025” program, which calls for enormous Chinese government assistance to 10 industries, would force out competitors from abroad and lead to government-subsidized global players that would compete unfairly. Indeed, the Chinese government’s plan says Chinese industries that benefit should own as much as 80 percent of their home market in just eight years.

    “The Chinese make it clear that they want to be the global champion” and are trying to carve out market share now, said Joerg Wuttke, the president of the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China, which wrote the report.

    The plan’s mechanism is simple: It would provide large, low-interest loans from state-owned investment funds and development banks; assistance in buying foreign competitors; and extensive research subsidies, all with the goal of making China largely self-sufficient in the targeted industries.

    Although European and American government officials have expressed misgivings about the plan, the Chinese government has made clear in recent days that it plans to press on.

    “We will fully implement our plan for developing strategic emerging industries,” Premier Li Keqiang said in his annual speech to the National People’s Congress on Sunday. “We will accelerate R. & D. on and commercialization of new materials, artificial intelligence, integrated circuits, bio-pharmacy, 5G mobile communications and other technologies, and develop industrial clusters in these fields.”

    In addition to the sectors Mr. Li cited, the plan also covers the manufacturing of aircraft, robots, electric cars, rail equipment, ships and agricultural machinery. China seeks to wean itself off imports from companies like Boeing, Airbus, General Electric, Siemens, Nissan, Renault, Samsung and Intel.
     

    China has charted out a $300 billion plan to become nearly self-sufficient by 2025 in a range of important industries

    Looks like a bargain. I just saw a blurb where the F 35 program is going to cost us $1.5 trillion.

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  235. @Corvinus
    "Without rule of law, you cannot have a functioning republic. It is as simple as that."

    Indeed, enforce current laws on the books, whether it be directed toward illegal immigrants, or southern crackers, or northern hoods, or corporate bigwigs.

    "The real problem is that our corrupted elected officials have allowed the few to enrich themselves exploiting this cheap labor at the expense of the rest of us."

    Do not the elites have the liberty to do what they want with their property? Do they not have the liberty to make profits? How do you ensure that these companies hire more American workers at higher wages without raising prices in the process? Would not such economic coercion fly in the face of capitalism?

    Do not the elites have the liberty to do what they want with their property?

    That property derives much of its value from the infrastructure and civil society laid down by earlier generations. They now import cheap labor that does not have the ability or inclination to maintain that infrastructure and civil society.

    “Personnel is policy.”

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "That property derives much of its value from the infrastructure and civil society laid down by earlier generations."

    With those earlier generations themselves being characterized as other than fit to incorporate themselves into our society. The industrial giants of the late 1800's utilized cheap labor from Europe to build our economy and our urban areas. These titans of industry then used their profits to expand their operations nationally and globally.

    "They now import cheap labor that does not have the ability or inclination to maintain that infrastructure and civil society."

    Again, the same argument was made against the Irish, Germans, Italians, and Poles because of their inferior genetics and culture. Nativists believed these groups of people were inferior ethnic groups.