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Palestine with its wonderful rolling landscapes and venerable old olive trees, – some of them planted by Mary’s own hands, by the Virgin, Mother of Jesus Christ, the Palestinian peasant woman who owned a plot of olive orchard near present Cremisan Convent in Beit Jalla, still bearing Her name; Palestine with its sturdy mountain folk, lean, sun-tanned and blue-eyed, my second- or perhaps first homeland, where I write these lines, Palestine is also a rare place in the world, where people are not afraid to mouth the word “Jew”.

My Palestinian friend, a retired chemistry professor Ghassan Abdulla – we became friends years ago while trying to promote the idea of One State for all the inhabitants of the Holy Land of whatever faith, the idea universally accepted all over the world, certainly in your country be it the US, the UK, Russia or France, but still considered extremely radical here – Abdulla often receives visitors from Germany and Austria, as his wife hails from German-speaking part of Switzerland. These guests look shocked whenever they hear the word “Jew”, especially with a negative connotation, like “The Jews do not allow us to have water” or “The Jews do not allow us to use the airport”, “The Jews declared a siege and we can’t go to the church”, “Jews shot at the kids at the crossing”, and so many similar sentences all too frequent in the country where the Jews rule, and the Gentiles obey or die. The German guests are instinctively looking for a bed to crawl and hide under. If they find to escape route, they mumble “Surely not all the Jews”, or “We love Jews”, or something equally silly.

The US occupation army in Europe instilled terrible fear of Jews in European hearts and minds. This fear was known before: the Gospel is a witness that people were afraid to speak openly of Christ “for fear of the Jews”. Since then, the fear only grew and multiplied. And provided such fear exists, it would be strange if it weren’t used.

The Austrian elections of last Sunday are a prime exhibit. During the election campaign, the ruling Social Democratic Party of Austria (called SDO for short) imported an Israeli dirty-tricks master, a macher in Yiddish, Tal Silberstein, to besmirch its adversary Sebastian Kurz. Silberstein established a Facebook page in the name of Kurz and posted there strong anti-Jewish diatribes, he organised a FB group of Kurz fans and posted there hard-core Nazi slogans. The idea was that the Austrians will get cold feet and run away from Kurz.

Kurz figured this out and asked the Facebook moderators to stop it. Usually you do not have to ask FB twice to stop Nazi stuff. And a false identity claim usually gets sorted out in a reasonable time. Here, however, Mr Zuckerberg and his minions tarried a while, reluctant to undermine Silberstein’s outing of an antisemite. Kurz was lucky as Silberstein had been arrested in Israel for corruption-related offences. After that, the FB unplugged its ears and removed Silberstein’s created pages and groups. This was sheer luck: if he were arrested elsewhere, he would be considered a victim of antisemites, and his nasty web would remain intact.

This Silberstein has quite a name to fit the Hall of Shame: an expert in Black PR, he had been previously connected with bribery-related offences when he ran the campaign for Mrs Julia Timoshenko, a Ukrainian politician. She went to jail, and he went to Israel. In Austria, he had a go of misfortunes: hackers released his correspondence with the SDO, his plans became known to public, the SDO leaders had to stand down and SDO had lost the election.

So the attempt of Silberstein to frame Kurz as an antisemite had failed, up to a point. He anyway continued to smear another Austrian politician as a Jew-hater. That was the FPO leader Heinz-Christian Strache. The end of the story may comfort us: the Austrians preferred these two parties, Kurz List and FPO, despite the alleged antisemitism, and punished SDO, the kosher party.

However, before celebrating let us see the downside of this wonderful event. In order to extricate themselves and their parties from the Jewish smear, the two leaders swore loyalty to Israel. They went (separately) to Israel, took photo-op with PM Netanyahu and at the Holocaust memorial, they spoke endlessly how much they adore and appreciate Israel.

The antisemitism accusation is a win-win proposition for Jews. If a politician doesn’t do what the Jews want, they call him antisemite, and he (a) does what they want, and/or (b) swears fealty to Israel. In case (a) he is a liberal, in case (b) he is a nationalist. In both cases, Jews win.

And the Palestinians lose. They are locked up behind a high wall; they can’t leave, and the Jews drive in whenever they feel for it, to snatch a man and kill him, or drop him into their nameless gaols. From time to time, the Jews take over a hill or a valley and build there a gated community just for Jews. They take water, they take fields. If the Palestinians build themselves say, a power plant, Jews bomb it to smithereens. They say, otherwise the Palestinians will be able to use electricity to make weapons and kill Jews. It is better for Jews to sell them electricity: the EU pays for some of electricity, the PNA pays for the rest, the money goes to Jewish pockets, while the power switch remains in Jewish hands.

Can you read the previous paragraph without feeling acute discomfort? If not, you are also a victim of antisemitism hunters. I am not fond of Jew-haters, but these antisemitism hunters are worse, much worse – because they cause real, not imaginary damage.

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Look at Weinstein, the Hollywood wanker – he is a typical antisemitism hunter, dreaming of killing goyim like in his Basterds, or screwing shiksas in real life. He called to “kick ass” of the enemies of Jews, to organize “like Mafia did”, though these guys could teach Mafia a lesson or two. He forced the Gentile girls to have sex with him because he was a simple Jewish boy from Bronx who dreamed of revenge, wrote the editor of the Jewish Tabletmag.com: “It goes without saying that nearly every one of these women — was a Gentile, all the better to feed Weinstein’s revenge-tinged fantasy of having risen above his outer-borough, bridge-and-tunnel Semitic origins.” At the Algemeiner‘s gala in New York City, Weinstein declared, “I love Israel, I love what it stands for, I am proud to be Jewish. I am an Israeli in my heart and mind.”

Whenever a Palestinian child is killed, whenever an olive tree is uprooted by Jewish bulldozers, Weinstein and Silberstein are accomplices of the crime.

Now in England, there is a terrible witch-hunt for antisemites in the Labour Party. The idea is to destroy Jeremy Corbyn, to return the party to the people of Blair and his Jewish paymaster Mandelson, who said, “I try to undermine Jeremy Corbyn ‘every single day” with their antisemitism allegations. Corbyn is doing everything to cover himself from this side. Good people, strong activists had been expelled for very little reason, if the Jews demanded their heads. Even an old Professor Moshe Machover, an academic and Israeli socialist, long resident in the UK had been expelled from Labour for this was the command of Israeli ambassador in the UK.

The US is the worst case of fear of the Jews. The Americans are so afraid of Jews that they express their servile love for Jews at every occasion. Not in private, no. I had met with some American dignitaries; whenever they thought they are not listened to and recorded by NSA, they spoke quite freely of being locked in the Jewish vice. But in public, they would never say anything against the Jewish will. I know only one congresswoman who dared, Cynthia McKinney. She lost her seat, but she won hearts. A person of colour, as you say in the US, she is the whitest one.

Now consider Donald Trump. From the very beginning of his political career, every day or twice a day he says he is not an antisemite. And he is getting more and more attached to Israel in order to prove it.

He is doing everything for Israel. He stormed out of UNESCO because they are not obedient enough to Israel – though they even broke their own rules to elect the French-Moroccan Jewish woman as their head in order to please Trump and Netanyahu. He destroyed the nuclear accord with Iran, because that was Netanyahu’s demand. And still, every day the Jews scream that he is an antisemite. (Today, as I write these lines, they call him ‘antisemite’ because he advised Senator Chuck Schumer to check with Israel on his attitude to the Iran nuclear accord.)

Together with Netanyahu, Trump prepares now an inter-Palestinian civil war, or at least he blocks the Palestinian way of democratically sorting out their internal problems. Since 2006, the Palestinians have been split between Fatah and Hamas. Now they want to form a coalition government and run proper democratic elections like they did in 2006. Israel is surely against it, as they are against every attempt to stop bloodshed in the area. The Jews want more war anytime – from the Iran-Iraq war to the War on Terror to the Syrian war, they are always for war, but especially the Jews want a Palestinian civil war. And here the US comes in, by saying that Hamas are terrorists and the US will block PNA in the US courts and banks if they accept Hamas.

So the Jews keep using this wonderful tool of attacking antisemites. Even if they do not destroy their enemy – Trump hasn’t been destroyed, Corbyn hasn’t been destroyed, Kurz hadn’t been destroyed – they force the attacked politicians to support Israel even more. Heads you lose, tails I win. And this is the road to perdition.

The only way out of it is to desensitize people to the antisemitism charge. That is why I welcome certain pugnacious publications on the Unz.com and elsewhere, for even if not perfectly fair, they still help to desensitize the reader.

Good Jewish activists suggest to move in an opposite way. – “Fight antisemitism, do not give it an inch, – they say, – Antisemitism is counterproductive”. There are good Jewish activists, for sure. For instance, Philip Weiss or Norman Finkelstein. And from time to time, they give a salvo on suspected antisemites, like the Israeli writer and musician Gilad Atzmon. I do not want to argue with them, for they are doing good work – until they join the fight with antisemitism hunters. It is perfectly ok to dislike this or other anti-Jewish sentence or slogan; moreover, it is unavoidable for critique of Jews has many faces. But there is a distance between disliking and actually joining with Netanyahu and Weinstein.

The souls of Gentile politicians are so fragile, they are so scared of Jews, that it is better not to traumatize them by suggesting that there are some evil antisemites to confront. Every lost Jewish vote will be well compensated by the votes gained. It is the right time to get rid of Jewish yoke, especially that this yoke is purely psychological block.

People may dislike Gypsies, they may dislike mass immigrants, they may dislike bankers, slick journalists, and machers. It is perfectly ok to dislike Jews. It is not against the law. You do not have to compensate that by kneeing to Israel.

If you remember that, we shall free Palestine; and if you won’t, the war is inevitable.

Israel Shamir can be reached at adam@israelshamir.net

This article was first published at The Unz Review.

 
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  1. geokat62 says:

    My favourite line:

    I am not fond of Jew-haters, but these antisemitism hunters are worse, much worse – because they cause real, not imaginary damage.

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  2. wayfarer says:


    source: http://www.makebarcode.com/specs/ean_cc.html

    “Boycott Israel – People Power”

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  3. turtle says:

    Arabs are Semitic humans.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Yes, but the word 'anti-Semitic' entered the language in the 19th century to categorize people who dislike Jews. Admittedly it's confusing, but it's a poor defense to argue that X is not an anti-Semite because he is himself an Arab and therefore a Semite. The obvious question is how he feels about Jews. But it seems to me that we need a distinction between irrational hate and principled opposition. When Jews complain about the Catholic church, "Islamofascism" or 'born-again bigots' they are never accused of hate-mongering, at least not in mainstream publications. I suggest that whoever practices ethnic politics opens himself up to the possibility of fair and honorable critique, as well as the dishonorable kind.
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  4. utu says:

    The only way out of it is to desensitize people to the antisemitism charge.

    I am afraid it will get worse before it gets better if at all.

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    • Replies: @uslabor
    I was called an anti-Semite by a local Colorado Springs' Rabbi when I dared to respond to something he published in The Colorado Springs Gazette Telegraph.

    I'm not bothered, you might say I'm desensitized to the charge. I think the term anti-Semite is used so often it means nothing now, or very little at best.

    I think I'll teach my parrot to say something like "I think Israelis should quit killing Palestinians, especially the children" so she, too, can know the shame of being an anti-Semite. Can a hook bill be desensitized?

    For her sake, I hope so.

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  5. If Antisemitism means blind or pathological hatred of all things Jewish or blaming Jews for everything, then it is wrong.

    But if Philosemitism means blind or pathological worship of all things Jewish even when Jews do bad things, that is also wrong.

    What we need is Anti-Philosemitism. We need to counter this maddening blind worship of all things Jewish.

    As for Weinstein Scandal, I think the angle that it was Jewish Revenge against goyim only serves as moral cover. It’s like trying to explain Jordan Belfort’s criminality as a delayed generational reaction to country-club Wasp discrimination against Jews. While such an explanation doesn’t deny the guilt, it nevertheless offers some rationale for the behavior. Even as it admits Weinstein went too far or sought redress in the wrong way, it implies the validity of Jewish resentment.

    I think Weinstein’s sexual transgressions had mostly to do with ‘boing’. Indeed, suppose white gentiles are the ugliest people on earth and had done Jews wrong. Would Jews want to hump them for revenge? I think not.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    What's with these Jew perverts?

    Nationally known Jewish children's singer, songwriter arrested by FBI for child pornography
    http://us.blastingnews.com/news/2017/09/nationally-known-jewish-childrens-singer-songwriter-arrested-on-child-pornogra-002024197.html
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    Eric Komar

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/metzitzah-bpeh.jpeg

    , @joe webb
    "If Antisemitism means blind or pathological hatred of all things Jewish or blaming Jews for everything, then it is wrong."


    Anti-Semitism is actually a good tag for dislike and avoidance of jews and arabs. Their languages are not from the Indo-European language group. Language does not prove everything, but it is a signifier of separation, genetically speaking.

    Babylonia and Egypt were very much into the Priest-King kind of religion. This also includes a large part of the Middle East generally, including the jews. This was " foreign to the Greek temperament."
    Page 47, The Mycenaeans, by Lord Wm. Taylour.

    The Greeks were from the North, not the Middle East/Asia Minor. Different genes. This also accounts for the fact that only Whites invented free speech, small d democracy, and elections.

    Jehovah is a warrior God. Allah is a warrior God. Jesus, while a jew probably, got subverted by Hellenistic/Stoic notions of Peace, for want of a briefer term, and thereby broke away from the Priest-King-Warrior God genes of the Middle East. Some argue that Jesus was not a jew, particularly the Talmud (son of a Roman soldier and a whore who could have been anything, genetically).

    So....anti-semitism is alive and well, and growing, as we White people realize that semites are dangerous to a genuinely small d democratic people who do not go in for priest-kings, like the jews and arabs or, worshiip warrior gods, or worse, like not a few agnostic jews who do not Believe in Jehovah, nevertheless believe in Jews as God.

    Joe Webb
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  6. There is no worldwide group that gets so much attention as jews.
    That jews have power far more than their numbers suggest, who doubts it ?
    80% of the world’s media are said to be in jewish hands.
    If not in jewish hands, non commercial media, many are led by jews, such as BBC.
    If not led by jews, many journalists and presentators are jewish, also in the Netherlands.
    And so criticism of jews is antisemitism, and antisemitism is worse than murdering children, antisemitism leads to gas chambers.
    If anything shows that not all jews are nice people it is Israel, from a pr point of view Israel was a big mistake.
    A mistake so big that Israel’s only ally is the USA, a USA where jewish influence may disappear at any moment.
    What I’m unable to understand is that jews cannot see that they are living very dangerously.
    From their history and culture I can explain this dangerous living, but why a people on average with 10 points higher on IQ tests go on like this, this is a mystery to me.

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    that Israel’s only ally is the USA, a USA where jewish influence may disappear at any moment.
     
    That fear is fundamentally flawed at some level, even though the Jews have no better friends than the Americans, for sure.

    The exclusive membership cult is counting on the fact that the pagan polytheist "in-his-image" or godless world (aka the non-muslim world) will always view the true monotheist "He-is-One-and-Unique" world, with deep mistrust, a feeling which is mutual anyway.

    Since that is not going away anytime in the foreseeable future, they feel secure in the knowledge that they have many potential allies. For example, they have the Hindoo nationalist evil firmly in their own evil grasp, making the most willing bedfellows, like dogs locked on.

    Those cultists are able and well positioned to take full advantage of the ongoing civilisational clash... i.e. Polytheists vs Monotheists.

    But, the Polytheists come armed with the most advanced weapons of mass destruction, along with spiritual delusions and much gloating of worldly accomplishments, while the True Monotheists are simply armed with the most potent gift of mass salvation, the truth of His Oneness.

    Any guesses who will prevail?

    , @uslabor
    "That jews have power far more than their numbers suggest, who doubts it ?
    80% of the world’s media are said to be in jewish hands."

    How did they achieve that power? Anybody?
    , @Jack Daniels
    In the 1950s I don't think any Ivy League college had a Jewish president. Today, six of the eight have Jewish presidents and the other two have gentile women married to Jewish men. That suggests a conquest of territory. A valuable territory too --- Boardwalk and Park Place. And chutzpah: the Jewish president of Dartmouth agreed to forbid dissemination of Lewis's Mere Christianity as hate speech.
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  7. Bill Jone says:

    It is Counter Semitism.

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    It is Counter Semitism.

     

    I like that!!
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    Notice the way the JooieMedia insists on pronouncing the perp's name as Weinsteen......not Weinstein with a long i which sounds a little too "jooie" and overtly fingers their criminal tribe. The jooies know they are hated and despised for good reason......and that even people as bovine and naturally subservient as the American public will eventually take on their vile jooie masters.
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  9. Tyrion says:

    ‘Jewish yoke’. Kooky fantasy Mr Shamir!

    This article is not much more. Just a string of literary devices in a whimsical tone that does little more than open up the skin for the commenters to rush in and create a weeping sore of projected neuroses and strange onanisms in their posts below.

    One minor quibble though, is worth bringing up, for the benefit of your seemingly few functional readers.

    Now in England, there is a terrible witch-hunt for antisemites in the Labour Party. The idea is to destroy Jeremy Corbyn, to return the party to the people of Blair and his Jewish paymaster Mandelson, who said, “I try to undermine Jeremy Corbyn ‘every single day” with their antisemitism allegations. Corbyn is doing everything to cover himself from this side. Good people, strong activists had been expelled for very little reason,

    It is not a ‘terrible witch hunt’. It was one of many (ineffective) tools used to tried to lower Mr Corbyn’s popularity, because politics is nowawadays played through such accusations. I say ineffective, because it did not work, even though had it been about any other ethnic or religious group, bar the native, it would have worked.

    It did help to lower the number of Jews voting for Labour. Jews don’t tend to like anti-Semitism and a (Muslim) Labour councillor declaring “Hitler” to be “history’s great man” is surely an understandable turn off.

    On the other hand, it raised the Muslim vote for Labour, which is far bigger, especially the turnout. After all, what could be a bigger vote winner for, for example, the Pakistani population that is 3% of births but 30% of confirmed genetic diseases at birth? (Imagine the tail end effects on that one!)

    Regardless, you have Labour MP Naz Shah, who actually seems like a nice and moderate lady and who holds an important parliamentary role, endorsing the following:

    “Solution for Israel-Palestine Conflict – Relocate Israel into United States”, with the comment: “Problem solved.”

    This is cut and dried ethnic cleansing. But hey, it is of Jews, and those wandering rootless losers can take it, not like the afore-mentioned Bradford Pakistani population…

    She recently followed this up with the even (much?) worse endorsement of the abuse of white girls by Muslim men.

    “Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity”.

    Lovely…

    For context, it may be as much as a million cases of abuse by Muslim men. It is certainly something that has occurred country wide.

    I actually like Naz Shah. She is a palatable public face for her community. Of course, that she is, and that this is why her political career is on a sustained upwards trajectory, is not a great augur for the future of this country.

    Anyway, enough on this, the Jewish population of the UK is a couple of hundred thousand. The Muslim population of the UK grew by more than that last year. Any Brit scared of the Jews is certifiably insane.

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    , @helena
    I need a ghost writer, are you interested?
    , @Issac
    "Jewish population of the UK is a couple of hundred thousand. The Muslim population of the UK grew by more than that last year. Any Brit scared of the Jews is certifiably insane."

    And yet those Brits would be right in their estimation that criticism of either group would land them in prison. Fear of imprisonment for verbal missteps strikes me as quite sane. Indeed, it would be completely insane of these British gentiles not to fear those whom their state has elevated above them by every legal measure.
    , @Seamus Padraig

    It is not a ‘terrible witch hunt’. It was one of many (ineffective) tools used to tried to lower Mr Corbyn’s popularity, because politics is nowawadays played through such accusations.
     
    Sure. But do you ever ask yourself: Why that particular accusation rather than another? Why? Because Corbyn is pro-Palestinian and has been for a long time. They're specifically signalling him to back off that issue. They're doing the same with Trump; after all, why is it called Russia-gate rather than some other -gate? So naturally they would try to attack Corbyn for 'anti-semitism' - this is all about Project Israel.
    , @CalDre

    This is cut and dried ethnic cleansing. But hey, it is of Jews, and those wandering rootless losers can take it, not like the afore-mentioned Bradford Pakistani population
     
    I suppose kicking out an invading army is also "ethnic cleansing" but I guess when you live in the world of Libtard absolutes you should just allow yourself to be overrun.

    Like UK is doing.

    But therein lies the rub. The Palestinians have never accepted the Jewish invasion and their own abject oppression, and are still trying to repel it. You Brit twats, on the other hand, on the orders of your Jewish masters, invite Pakistanis and other incompatible peoples in by the shipload, at such a rate that assimilation is all but ruled out. Once you have extended an invite it's a different matter to boot folks out.

    On the other hand, if Pakistanis in the UK rounded local British folk up into prison camps and terribly abused them like the Jews abuse the Palestinians, day in, day out, in wretched displays of brutality and supremacism, stealing their land, detentions without trial, demolishing homes, etc., etc., no doubt even the Jew-idolizing Brit wankers would possibly, just possibly, wake up and start agitating for an expulsion (and, with any brains, would include the Jews on those ships back to Pakiland).

    Or one can hope, though frankly you provide precious little optimism.

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  10. Renoman says:

    It’s quite a joke really, the Jews are by far the most hated people on the planet, nothing but trouble.

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  11. macilrae says:

    An accurate appraisal according to my direct experience – I am sure you’re careful with whom you eat and drink, Mr Shamir. You have a lot of courage.

    Contemplating on Mr Trump’s antics before and, now, after his appointment, one would have to say that somebody must be leaning on him pretty heavily: perhaps threatening release of private disclosures which would annihilate him.

    The amount of discreditable information at the disposal of those who would manipulate our politicians is very extensive. In my opinion this, and not money or career enhancement, explains many of the bewildering and sudden policy changes we so often see.

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    Contemplating on Mr Trump’s antics before and, now, after his appointment, one would have to say that somebody must be leaning on him pretty heavily: perhaps threatening release of private disclosures which would annihilate him.
     
    Charges of anti-semitism by the Jew York Times always works, and if that isn't enough, Trump's son-in-law is Israel's favorite son and as his "senior advisor", is basically the one running the show in the WH. Say hello to President Kushner, America's first de facto Jewish president.
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  12. Gruben says:

    There is more information which should be known on the scandal which developed around the face-book page where fake followers of the Austrian politician Sebastian Kurz posted anti-Semitic comments.
    - In interviews with Austrian newspapers Silberstein recognized that the idea to create such a face-book page with anti-Semitic content was his. He paid an Austrian who wrote the comments. The money (100.000 Euros) came from the SPÖ (Sozialdemokratische Partei Österreichs), the party of the current Austrian Chancellor Kern. The party used money it – like all Austrian political parties – had received from the budget of the Austrian republic for the financing of their campaign. The Chancellor and other SPÖ-politicians then declared that they had not known that Silberstein used part of their payments to have fake face-book pages written. Many people in Austria believe that the real aim of Tal Silberstein was to create some kind of “proof” of how anti-Semitic Austria is – with the money of the Austrian republic.
    - The journalists who made public this scandal have, according to information the police gave to a popular newspaper, afterwards been for several days followed by professional agents of an Israeli security firm using Mossad agents. Perhaps the idea of the anti-Semitic face-book pages has some kind of connection to authorities in Israel. The popular Vienna newspaper (Kronen-Zeitung) which published these interesting details belongs to an Austrian Jewish family.
    - Sebastian Kurz who won the elections in Austria seems to have some Jewish ancestors. Also the people who helped to publish the Silberstein story mostly seem to be Jewish.

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    • Replies: @Art
    Also the people who helped to publish the Silberstein story mostly seem to be Jewish.

    Two points - one damning - the other hopeful.

    Why did Gentiles not publish this story -- answer - FEAR - Fear - fear -- fear of the Jews. That sentence demonstrates Mr. Shamir’s point – Gentiles fear Jews.

    Hopefully some Jews are waking up to the dilemma of their tribe - known public dishonesty - they have come to see that they are just not trusted. That they can no longer jam down our throats any lie they can conger up.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Although when Jews publish something negative about themselves – most of the time their goal is control the narrative.
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  13. Excellent article.

    The only way out of it is to desensitize people to the antisemitism charge. That is why I welcome certain pugnacious publications on the Unz.com and elsewhere, for even if not perfectly fair, they still help to desensitize the reader.

    I think a lot of us are desensitized to the charge. It’s such a mindless construct that it really speaks poorly of the dolt making it..

    If you wanna have some fun with an accuser, and like to watch vermin squirm, just ask it what it means by its use of the word.

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    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    We all have to realize some real world impacts to a 'desensitization posture: Jews CAN & will attack those who are effective.

    So we need to know how to protect ourselves

    Research public records of prominent Jews --- they put properties in trusts to create one barrier against lawsuit.

    Acts of terror are not covered under ordinary property insurance. Congress a.ended that --- one can buy a terror rider.

    The Buddy System --- work with organizations that will Have Your Back. That's one more reason Giraldi' s firing is significant --- it signals that WE need to step up and form or join groups that will NOT cave

    Polish skills as much as possible. Rambling presentations are irritating noise in the face of media campaigns the (((adversary))) produces. Think you can't compete?
    Remember the Palestinian woman who did "My Body Is A TV Massacre"?
    She developed those skills in piss poor conditions thru hard work & practice practice practice. So can you.

    Take yourself & your activism seriously. Are you just filling in hours in your day or are you defining an objective & developing skills, knowledge & methods to achieve them?

    Somehow, folks on this forum need to meet up, organize, join forces. FASCES!

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  14. HBM says:

    What’s an “anti-Semite”? Is it like a blasphemer?

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  15. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    How to fight the religion of ‘Holocaustianity?’

    Difficult to do, since American minds get pummeled with pro-Israel and pro-Jewish propaganda from an early age.
    Grade school kids get a lethal dose of “Anne Frank,” to get our GOY minds prepared for a lifetime of brain-washing, hearing Judaic lies at least six million times during our lifetime.

    The USA is living under Israeli occupation. There are no tanks or IDF troops on our crumbling streets, they have chosen a sneakier way of occupation; occupying our minds and souls, turning them into a carbon-copy of many Israelis, blackened with hate of Palestinians and other ME nations that Israel wants destroyed, and us well-trained American GOY click our heels together and say YES SIR! while we watch our nation’s infrastructure fall to pieces, since so much of our budget goes to waging Wars for Wall Street and Israel,, but we don’t mind, after all, the money goes to protect our Lord and master, Israel.

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    Actually there ARE tanks on our streets VIA Israel --- US police departments use them to enforce American "Patriotism" --- aka Patriot Act.
    , @Che Guava
    A lot of your money is going to direct subsidies of Israel.

    It is repetitive to saying it, but about 4,000 million US$ a year, not to mentioning the money from collection plates from heretical 'evangelical' churches who are to supporting the novel falsehood (heresy) of 'Judaeo-Christian'.

    Meanwhile, the most ancient of middle-eastesn Christian communities, including in Palestine, are forced out by the Israel tail that is to wagging the USA dog.

    Pathetic.

    Also, am not to liking Pope Francesco at all. Flying a group of Moslem invaders on his Papal aeroplane to dump them on the Italian government, one can be sure he is not to hosting them in the Vatican.

    I am not as regular a church-goer as I should be, at least in Japan, it is not crazy. Also, Korean Lutheran churches are not insane, my Korean is not good enough, but some are also holding services in Japanese and in Englsh. They are not heretical (unless one is to considering basic Lutheranism to be the heresy, but as Roman Catholic scholars are now admitting, no heretic.

    From my reading, heresy is the general trend in Lutheran congregations of now in the USA and Germany.

    ... but I am marking my offering when at a Catholic church 'only for church maintenance or domestic use', to avoiding it to going to fake refugees, a.k.a invaders of other places.
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  16. Durruti says:

    I am not an anti-Semite; I like Arabs.

    What is wrong with Israel Shamir? Why does he refuse to learn? Why does he continue to cooperate with the Zionist (neo-Nazi) Land Thieves by utilizing their major weapon of misdirection-brainwashing?

    The overwhelming majority of Jews are not Semites. They hail from parts North, Europe. Most Jews are relatively recent converts. Peruse, for one example Koestler’s 13th Tribe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thirteenth_Tribe

    The major Racist anti-Semites on the Planet are the Land Thieving genocidal ethnic cleansing American Republic destroying wealthy Jewish Oligarchs, among them the Rothschilds, who utilize the mind control facilities of Hollywood, Public and Private Education, Mainstream Media, Secret Spy Agencies MOSSAD, CIA, MI-5-6, etc..

    Mr. Shamir, what are you afraid of? You can’t live forever.

    Our Sacred Duty is to Restore the Republic. The one the Zionists destroyed, on November 22, 1963, along with our last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy (in the first modern Arab Spring Operation). Their subsequent crimes, wars, murders of millions, 9/11, attack on the Liberty, overthrow of Ukraine’s elected government, destruction of nations by the dozens, ruination of religions and people’s faith, and their worst crime of all, the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians – And they force us all to watch as they rape and rape.

    Durruti

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    What is wrong with Durruti? Why does he refuse to learn that using "Nazi" as an all purpose pejorative is exactly what Zionists want us to do. Zionists created the demonizing slur 85 years ago
    They've trained us relenessly to believe their propaganda lies.
    Get some brain bleach.

    Recommended: Inconvenienthistory.com
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  17. Zumbuddi says:
    @Greg Bacon
    How to fight the religion of 'Holocaustianity?'

    Difficult to do, since American minds get pummeled with pro-Israel and pro-Jewish propaganda from an early age.
    Grade school kids get a lethal dose of "Anne Frank," to get our GOY minds prepared for a lifetime of brain-washing, hearing Judaic lies at least six million times during our lifetime.

    The USA is living under Israeli occupation. There are no tanks or IDF troops on our crumbling streets, they have chosen a sneakier way of occupation; occupying our minds and souls, turning them into a carbon-copy of many Israelis, blackened with hate of Palestinians and other ME nations that Israel wants destroyed, and us well-trained American GOY click our heels together and say YES SIR! while we watch our nation's infrastructure fall to pieces, since so much of our budget goes to waging Wars for Wall Street and Israel,, but we don't mind, after all, the money goes to protect our Lord and master, Israel.

    Actually there ARE tanks on our streets VIA Israel — US police departments use them to enforce American “Patriotism” — aka Patriot Act.

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  18. Zionism is the scourge of the civilized world, where Zionists are in control wars, death and destruction follow.

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    Do you see the irony of using the word "civilised," along with the terms "wars, death and destruction," the said world perpetuates, notwithstanding Zionist "control"?
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  19. Jake says:

    “The US occupation army in Europe instilled terrible fear of Jews in European hearts and minds.”

    And why did the US do that? Because the US is run by WASP culture for WASP culture. WASP culture was fully formed out of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, which was a Judaizing heresy. Judaizing heresy always produces culture and politics that are pro-Jewish.

    Oliver Cromwell, that beloved quintessential early WASP, made alliance with Jews specifically so WASPs could continue to wage wars – physical and cultural – to destroy non-WASP European cultures.

    WASP culture always has been, and always will be, allied with Jews against the vast majority of white Christians ruled by the WASP Elites.

    Until Christians in the Anglosphere understand that and act to save themselves from WASP cultural overlordship, whatever they do to try to stop this insanity is pissing in the wind at best.

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    Exactamundo, Jake; British ergo WASP PhiloSemitism is structural; it's systemic; it's baked in the cake (or biscuit, if you will).

    (I hope you can play hopscotch, because a lot of thoughts are coming to mind, they're connected but it would take either 3000 words or a day's time to create a shorter, crisp narrative. I just want to 'drop the pellets' here.)

    E Michael Jones taught/is teaching me the steps in that development -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4p7A0EtZqg&t=450s
    Barren Metal: British Impiricism vs German Idealism

    Jones's discussion of Adam Smith shatters the foundation of Western/American capitalist adulation of Smith's Wealth of Nations as basis for capitalist economic system.
    In his series of lectures on How Jews Created Capitalism, Jerry Muller relies on Adam Smith to endorse the "Greed is Good" (just like debt) thesis.

    Jones's major argument is that the Reformation in England had NO THEOLOGICAL basis/ foundation whatsoever, it was merely a land-grab: the monarch seized the (extensive) properties of the Catholic church/monastic orders.

    Jones mentions the transition of usurious systems from Medici Florence (in which Jews were relatively small-time participants) to Fuggars to Netherlands (where Jews exiled from Spain became dominant).


    Niall Ferguson's "Ascent of Money" traces the same path, extending it (as does Jones) to the Bank of England, where control of the people's money was taken out of their hands, designed never to be repaid, and gave the king free rein to wage wars at will. That system still prevails.
    (Ferguson was entrusted by the Rothschilds to search their papers and compose a two-volume biography of the Rothschild family.)

    I haven't listened to the entire Jones video & should do, but this bit was really intriguing:
    Jones said that Fichte re-installed logos* in German/Prussian culture, and he did this relying on Benedictine monks and their guiding principle: Ora et Labore: Pray and Work, or Work is Prayer and Prayer is Work, as we were taught.
    Does Arbeit Macht Frei come to mind?

    Sam Shama & the horse he rides in on mentioned Sebastian Haffner's "The Mind of Hitler." Before I was able to acquire that volume, I gained access to Haffner's "Memoir," which he wrote from age 7, in 1914, until 1933, but did not publish. Haffner's son, Oliver Pretzel, published the manuscript. It's chock full of insights; I will focus on this one passage:
    Germany has been defeated; Haffner & his German schoolboy pals are bereft: war had been a game to them, a thrilling game, and suddenly, it was over; their world was shattered.
    Weird things happen; ta dum ta dum ta dum, Rathenau is assassinated -- this is a very big deal -- major event -- for Haffner, for Germans, (and especially for Rabbi Stephen Wise, tho Haffner has no awareness whatsoever of zionism, the involvement of zionists at Versailles, etc.).
    After Rathenau's assassination an intense conflict rages, even in Haffner's 11th grade classroom: Should Germany take the Rathenau (Jewish) path or not? Even among the 11th graders, the conflict frequently comes to violence & bloodletting.

    Here's the passage: Haffner sees a schoolmate doodling a geometric figure on his paper; it's attractive, and Haffner is tempted to copy it himself. He asks his schoolmate, "What is that?" The mate responds, "Don't you know? It's the new symbol of hatred of the Jews!"

    It is, of course, the swastika.

    When I read that I thought it must have been something the son/publisher inserted in the original manuscript; I didn't think the swastika was associated with "hatred of the Jews" until ~May of 1933 when James Waterman Wise, Rabbi Stephen Wise's son, published a really nasty screed, "Swastika," in which the first paragraph identified the design as "symbolizing hatred of Jews."

    BUT -- cycle back to Jones's mention of the influence of the Benedictines in re-establishing logos, and the value of work, and the anti-value of usury, in German culture, in contrast to the opposite value sets in British culture.

    THEN realize that Hitler attended a Benedictine high school, sang in its choir. It is claimed that Hitler inspiration for the swastika at center of the Hakenkreuze was a design still visible in the stonework of his Benedictine high school.

    SO it may be the case that Jews would have perceived the Benedictine affirmation of logos as enshrined by the Catholic and Benedictine-trained Hitler to be the reification of their projected hatred of logos.

    IT IS THE CASE, on no less authority than that of David Engel, USHMM scholar of the Holocaust and professor of that study at New York Univ,, U Penn, TelAviv Univ., that National Socialists DID NOT, repeat DID NOT use antisemitic rhetoric during their campaigns in rise to power, nor did National Socialists use antisemitic rhetoric once having gained power; nor did National Socialists use "exterminationist" rhetoric at any time in their rise or period of rule (contrary to Sam Shama's wet dreams).
    Prof. David Engel states and repeats that the 25 points that Hitler drafted in 1920, that called for certain civil/legal limitations of Jewish power but NOT for any form of violence much less 'extermination' of Jews, was the same program implemented once Hitler became chancellor in 1933. Furthermore, Engel says, even then, that list of demands was implemented incompletely and in scattershot fashion, and not through diktat but after parliamentary consideration, and over a jagged time-frame.

    MY tentative conclusion: That zionist Jews like James Waterman Wise, and Haffner's "schoolmate," perceived (projected) the Swastika to be a symbol of "hatred of Jews" was just that -- a projection of Jewish rejection of logos, and a signal of Jewry's deep antipathy to the German intention to regain sovereignty over its own culture of "pray and work," and of its system of non-usurious finance -- which is exactly what National Socialists did, that enabled it to emerge from the depths of unemployment & debt to economic stability, despite the Jewish declaration of economic war on Germany.

    * Jones's concept of Logos - anti-Logos is best explained by him, here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtgaZ97Kdc
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  20. Zumbuddi says:
    @jacques sheete
    Excellent article.

    The only way out of it is to desensitize people to the antisemitism charge. That is why I welcome certain pugnacious publications on the Unz.com and elsewhere, for even if not perfectly fair, they still help to desensitize the reader.
     
    I think a lot of us are desensitized to the charge. It's such a mindless construct that it really speaks poorly of the dolt making it..

    If you wanna have some fun with an accuser, and like to watch vermin squirm, just ask it what it means by its use of the word.

    We all have to realize some real world impacts to a ‘desensitization posture: Jews CAN & will attack those who are effective.

    So we need to know how to protect ourselves

    Research public records of prominent Jews — they put properties in trusts to create one barrier against lawsuit.

    Acts of terror are not covered under ordinary property insurance. Congress a.ended that — one can buy a terror rider.

    The Buddy System — work with organizations that will Have Your Back. That’s one more reason Giraldi’ s firing is significant — it signals that WE need to step up and form or join groups that will NOT cave

    Polish skills as much as possible. Rambling presentations are irritating noise in the face of media campaigns the (((adversary))) produces. Think you can’t compete?
    Remember the Palestinian woman who did “My Body Is A TV Massacre”?
    She developed those skills in piss poor conditions thru hard work & practice practice practice. So can you.

    Take yourself & your activism seriously. Are you just filling in hours in your day or are you defining an objective & developing skills, knowledge & methods to achieve them?

    Somehow, folks on this forum need to meet up, organize, join forces. FASCES!

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    "Remember the Palestinian woman who did “My Body Is A TV Massacre”?
    She developed those skills in piss poor conditions thru hard work & practice practice practice. So can you."

    you mean this --

    Rafeef Ziadeh - We Teach Life, Sir!
    composed as Israel was bombing the crap out of Gaza

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wad5h5K38ms

    , @jacques sheete

    Somehow, folks on this forum need to meet up, organize, join forces.
     
    And when they do, they better not let anything infiltrate, pervert and subvert it.

    Anything "we" build, "they" can, and will work to destroy...
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  21. The interesting part here is the Austrian election. On the one hand, it’s not being hyped (for once!) as some sort of defeat for the EU (which it isn’t), the inevitable and imminent demise of which is announced almost daily on the American internet. On the other hand, the claims of foreigners being brought in on behalf of this or that party lends credibility to those who claim of Russian interference in the US election on Trump’s behalf.

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  22. Zumbuddi says:
    @Tyrion
    'Jewish yoke'. Kooky fantasy Mr Shamir!

    This article is not much more. Just a string of literary devices in a whimsical tone that does little more than open up the skin for the commenters to rush in and create a weeping sore of projected neuroses and strange onanisms in their posts below.

    One minor quibble though, is worth bringing up, for the benefit of your seemingly few functional readers.

    Now in England, there is a terrible witch-hunt for antisemites in the Labour Party. The idea is to destroy Jeremy Corbyn, to return the party to the people of Blair and his Jewish paymaster Mandelson, who said, “I try to undermine Jeremy Corbyn ‘every single day” with their antisemitism allegations. Corbyn is doing everything to cover himself from this side. Good people, strong activists had been expelled for very little reason,
     
    It is not a 'terrible witch hunt'. It was one of many (ineffective) tools used to tried to lower Mr Corbyn's popularity, because politics is nowawadays played through such accusations. I say ineffective, because it did not work, even though had it been about any other ethnic or religious group, bar the native, it would have worked.

    It did help to lower the number of Jews voting for Labour. Jews don't tend to like anti-Semitism and a (Muslim) Labour councillor declaring "Hitler" to be "history's great man" is surely an understandable turn off.

    On the other hand, it raised the Muslim vote for Labour, which is far bigger, especially the turnout. After all, what could be a bigger vote winner for, for example, the Pakistani population that is 3% of births but 30% of confirmed genetic diseases at birth? (Imagine the tail end effects on that one!)

    Regardless, you have Labour MP Naz Shah, who actually seems like a nice and moderate lady and who holds an important parliamentary role, endorsing the following:

    “Solution for Israel-Palestine Conflict – Relocate Israel into United States”, with the comment: “Problem solved.”

    This is cut and dried ethnic cleansing. But hey, it is of Jews, and those wandering rootless losers can take it, not like the afore-mentioned Bradford Pakistani population...

    She recently followed this up with the even (much?) worse endorsement of the abuse of white girls by Muslim men.

    "Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity".

    Lovely...

    For context, it may be as much as a million cases of abuse by Muslim men. It is certainly something that has occurred country wide.

    ...

    I actually like Naz Shah. She is a palatable public face for her community. Of course, that she is, and that this is why her political career is on a sustained upwards trajectory, is not a great augur for the future of this country.

    Anyway, enough on this, the Jewish population of the UK is a couple of hundred thousand. The Muslim population of the UK grew by more than that last year. Any Brit scared of the Jews is certifiably insane.

    Tl;dnr

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  23. Zumbuddi says:
    @Durruti
    I am not an anti-Semite; I like Arabs.

    What is wrong with Israel Shamir? Why does he refuse to learn? Why does he continue to cooperate with the Zionist (neo-Nazi) Land Thieves by utilizing their major weapon of misdirection-brainwashing?

    The overwhelming majority of Jews are not Semites. They hail from parts North, Europe. Most Jews are relatively recent converts. Peruse, for one example Koestler's 13th Tribe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thirteenth_Tribe

    The major Racist anti-Semites on the Planet are the Land Thieving genocidal ethnic cleansing American Republic destroying wealthy Jewish Oligarchs, among them the Rothschilds, who utilize the mind control facilities of Hollywood, Public and Private Education, Mainstream Media, Secret Spy Agencies MOSSAD, CIA, MI-5-6, etc..

    Mr. Shamir, what are you afraid of? You can't live forever.

    Our Sacred Duty is to Restore the Republic. The one the Zionists destroyed, on November 22, 1963, along with our last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy (in the first modern Arab Spring Operation). Their subsequent crimes, wars, murders of millions, 9/11, attack on the Liberty, overthrow of Ukraine's elected government, destruction of nations by the dozens, ruination of religions and people's faith, and their worst crime of all, the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians - And they force us all to watch as they rape and rape.

    Durruti

    What is wrong with Durruti? Why does he refuse to learn that using “Nazi” as an all purpose pejorative is exactly what Zionists want us to do. Zionists created the demonizing slur 85 years ago
    They’ve trained us relenessly to believe their propaganda lies.
    Get some brain bleach.

    Recommended: Inconvenienthistory.com

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    "What is wrong with Durruti? Why does he refuse to learn that using “Nazi” as an all purpose pejorative is exactly what Zionists want us to do. Zionists created the demonizing slur 85 years ago
    They’ve trained us relenessly to believe their propaganda lies.
    Get some brain bleach."

    What is wrong with the sectarian - plant 'Zumbuddi' who attacks one section of a comment and ignores the major portion of the comment directed toward the author's (Israel Shamir) use of the term "anti-Semitism" (which is the major portion of the title of his article - stay on topic Mr. Zambuddi?)?

    If 'Zambuddi' wishes to defend Nazis, (whom my Belgian father -and his 4 brothers and my 2 Grandfathers, one cousin, and two uncles, fought against), that is his/your sad business. Nazis were not Republicans, and they assisted Roosevelt, Franco, Salazar, Blum, Mussolini, and many others to destroy the Spanish Republic.

    Maybe you - 'Zambuddi' wish to deny that Nazi crime (only one of many). The original Durruti, Buenaventura Durruti, and his Anarchists, fought to save the Democratically Elected Spanish Republic. Durruti gave his life in the streets of Madrid so that the Republic might live.

    The Nazis and Fascism will not lead us to Freedom. they are just a branch of totalitarian imperialist development, morally and politically analogous to modern day American democrat and republican party politicians.

    The Only Road for us in America is to Restore our Republic, our Sacred Democratic Republic. Lexington and Concord was not a dream; and all the events that led to that moment must happen again.

    Our Yellow brick Road

    Honor: Emotion: Love of Country: Spiritualism:

    Leave your fear at the door!

    Respect all! Bow to none!

    God Bless Buenaventura Durruti.

    Fuck You 'Zambuddi'

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  24. helena says:
    @Tyrion
    'Jewish yoke'. Kooky fantasy Mr Shamir!

    This article is not much more. Just a string of literary devices in a whimsical tone that does little more than open up the skin for the commenters to rush in and create a weeping sore of projected neuroses and strange onanisms in their posts below.

    One minor quibble though, is worth bringing up, for the benefit of your seemingly few functional readers.

    Now in England, there is a terrible witch-hunt for antisemites in the Labour Party. The idea is to destroy Jeremy Corbyn, to return the party to the people of Blair and his Jewish paymaster Mandelson, who said, “I try to undermine Jeremy Corbyn ‘every single day” with their antisemitism allegations. Corbyn is doing everything to cover himself from this side. Good people, strong activists had been expelled for very little reason,
     
    It is not a 'terrible witch hunt'. It was one of many (ineffective) tools used to tried to lower Mr Corbyn's popularity, because politics is nowawadays played through such accusations. I say ineffective, because it did not work, even though had it been about any other ethnic or religious group, bar the native, it would have worked.

    It did help to lower the number of Jews voting for Labour. Jews don't tend to like anti-Semitism and a (Muslim) Labour councillor declaring "Hitler" to be "history's great man" is surely an understandable turn off.

    On the other hand, it raised the Muslim vote for Labour, which is far bigger, especially the turnout. After all, what could be a bigger vote winner for, for example, the Pakistani population that is 3% of births but 30% of confirmed genetic diseases at birth? (Imagine the tail end effects on that one!)

    Regardless, you have Labour MP Naz Shah, who actually seems like a nice and moderate lady and who holds an important parliamentary role, endorsing the following:

    “Solution for Israel-Palestine Conflict – Relocate Israel into United States”, with the comment: “Problem solved.”

    This is cut and dried ethnic cleansing. But hey, it is of Jews, and those wandering rootless losers can take it, not like the afore-mentioned Bradford Pakistani population...

    She recently followed this up with the even (much?) worse endorsement of the abuse of white girls by Muslim men.

    "Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity".

    Lovely...

    For context, it may be as much as a million cases of abuse by Muslim men. It is certainly something that has occurred country wide.

    ...

    I actually like Naz Shah. She is a palatable public face for her community. Of course, that she is, and that this is why her political career is on a sustained upwards trajectory, is not a great augur for the future of this country.

    Anyway, enough on this, the Jewish population of the UK is a couple of hundred thousand. The Muslim population of the UK grew by more than that last year. Any Brit scared of the Jews is certifiably insane.

    I need a ghost writer, are you interested?

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  25. nsa says:
    @Priss Factor
    Hey, Harvey has a fan.

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/22386/watch-rob-reiner-implies-harvey-weinstein-similar-frank-camp?utm

    Notice the way the JooieMedia insists on pronouncing the perp’s name as Weinsteen……not Weinstein with a long i which sounds a little too “jooie” and overtly fingers their criminal tribe. The jooies know they are hated and despised for good reason……and that even people as bovine and naturally subservient as the American public will eventually take on their vile jooie masters.

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    even people as bovine and naturally subservient as the American public will eventually take on their vile jooie masters.
     
    don't bet on it.

    there's a PR pro w/ MBA from an expensive university who is pushing the meme/Twitter #MeToo, inviting women to bare their souls online, talk at length and ad nauseam about how they were sexually compromised.

    WTF is wrong with that?

    Inviting women who have been debased to debase themselves in public to people they don't know???

    How about outing the men who are predators -- your neighborhood banker; the fine upstanding lawyer down the street whose had half a dozen affairs, who thinks "celibacy is for losers."

    OUT THEM!

    Hang the scarlet letter around their necks, or their front doors: Trick or Treat!!!

    NAME 'em and
    SHAME 'em.
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  26. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Zumbuddi
    We all have to realize some real world impacts to a 'desensitization posture: Jews CAN & will attack those who are effective.

    So we need to know how to protect ourselves

    Research public records of prominent Jews --- they put properties in trusts to create one barrier against lawsuit.

    Acts of terror are not covered under ordinary property insurance. Congress a.ended that --- one can buy a terror rider.

    The Buddy System --- work with organizations that will Have Your Back. That's one more reason Giraldi' s firing is significant --- it signals that WE need to step up and form or join groups that will NOT cave

    Polish skills as much as possible. Rambling presentations are irritating noise in the face of media campaigns the (((adversary))) produces. Think you can't compete?
    Remember the Palestinian woman who did "My Body Is A TV Massacre"?
    She developed those skills in piss poor conditions thru hard work & practice practice practice. So can you.

    Take yourself & your activism seriously. Are you just filling in hours in your day or are you defining an objective & developing skills, knowledge & methods to achieve them?

    Somehow, folks on this forum need to meet up, organize, join forces. FASCES!

    “Remember the Palestinian woman who did “My Body Is A TV Massacre”?
    She developed those skills in piss poor conditions thru hard work & practice practice practice. So can you.”

    you mean this –

    Rafeef Ziadeh – We Teach Life, Sir!
    composed as Israel was bombing the crap out of Gaza

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    That was very moving.
    She was amazing.
    , @daniel le mouche
    Can someone tell me where this style of poetry was first read? I can't quite describe it, but hope many out there have noticed it as I have. I'm not completely against it, I think whoever first read this way was probably simply overcome with emotion. But for everyone (it seems) to read that way for, say, twenty-five years?
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  27. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @nsa
    Notice the way the JooieMedia insists on pronouncing the perp's name as Weinsteen......not Weinstein with a long i which sounds a little too "jooie" and overtly fingers their criminal tribe. The jooies know they are hated and despised for good reason......and that even people as bovine and naturally subservient as the American public will eventually take on their vile jooie masters.

    even people as bovine and naturally subservient as the American public will eventually take on their vile jooie masters.

    don’t bet on it.

    there’s a PR pro w/ MBA from an expensive university who is pushing the meme/Twitter #MeToo, inviting women to bare their souls online, talk at length and ad nauseam about how they were sexually compromised.

    WTF is wrong with that?

    Inviting women who have been debased to debase themselves in public to people they don’t know???

    How about outing the men who are predators — your neighborhood banker; the fine upstanding lawyer down the street whose had half a dozen affairs, who thinks “celibacy is for losers.”

    OUT THEM!

    Hang the scarlet letter around their necks, or their front doors: Trick or Treat!!!

    NAME ‘em and
    SHAME ‘em.

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  28. “Palestine with its wonderful rolling landscapes and venerable old olive trees, – some of them planted by Mary’s own hands, by the Virgin, Mother of Jesus Christ, the Palestinian peasant woman who owned a plot of olive orchard near present Cremisan Convent in Beit Jalla, still bearing Her name”

    Stopped reading there. Author is obviously delusional and untrustworthy as an observer.

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    What?

    You don't treasure artistic license?

    , @Issac
    I have to say, I find the overt appeals to Christian Holy Land fairly cringe inducing too. No matter who "wins," ultimate control over Israel/Palestine, the Christians will lose. They're roundly hated by the Orthodox and Muslims alike. Only a handful of misfits on either side care enough to protect them and they don't put much effort into it.

    Incidentally, this is part of what opened my eyes, as a teenager, to the farce that American Christians were an Imperial power over us all. If the Christians were actually powerful, they wouldn't let their sacred sites and relics be vandalized with regularity, the aftermath being largely unreported. Nor would they countenance the wholesale slaughter of Christians in the region with little fanfare.
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  29. Z-man says:
    @Bill Jone
    It is Counter Semitism.

    It is Counter Semitism.

    I like that!!

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  30. Che Guava says:
    @Greg Bacon
    How to fight the religion of 'Holocaustianity?'

    Difficult to do, since American minds get pummeled with pro-Israel and pro-Jewish propaganda from an early age.
    Grade school kids get a lethal dose of "Anne Frank," to get our GOY minds prepared for a lifetime of brain-washing, hearing Judaic lies at least six million times during our lifetime.

    The USA is living under Israeli occupation. There are no tanks or IDF troops on our crumbling streets, they have chosen a sneakier way of occupation; occupying our minds and souls, turning them into a carbon-copy of many Israelis, blackened with hate of Palestinians and other ME nations that Israel wants destroyed, and us well-trained American GOY click our heels together and say YES SIR! while we watch our nation's infrastructure fall to pieces, since so much of our budget goes to waging Wars for Wall Street and Israel,, but we don't mind, after all, the money goes to protect our Lord and master, Israel.

    A lot of your money is going to direct subsidies of Israel.

    It is repetitive to saying it, but about 4,000 million US$ a year, not to mentioning the money from collection plates from heretical ‘evangelical’ churches who are to supporting the novel falsehood (heresy) of ‘Judaeo-Christian’.

    Meanwhile, the most ancient of middle-eastesn Christian communities, including in Palestine, are forced out by the Israel tail that is to wagging the USA dog.

    Pathetic.

    Also, am not to liking Pope Francesco at all. Flying a group of Moslem invaders on his Papal aeroplane to dump them on the Italian government, one can be sure he is not to hosting them in the Vatican.

    I am not as regular a church-goer as I should be, at least in Japan, it is not crazy. Also, Korean Lutheran churches are not insane, my Korean is not good enough, but some are also holding services in Japanese and in Englsh. They are not heretical (unless one is to considering basic Lutheranism to be the heresy, but as Roman Catholic scholars are now admitting, no heretic.

    From my reading, heresy is the general trend in Lutheran congregations of now in the USA and Germany.

    … but I am marking my offering when at a Catholic church ‘only for church maintenance or domestic use’, to avoiding it to going to fake refugees, a.k.a invaders of other places.

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    Flying a group of Moslem invaders
     

    to avoiding it to going to fake refugees, a.k.a invaders of other places.
     
    So I am curious, what does a man (?) from the godless land of perversion have against "Moslems"? Unless of course you are Korean, in which case, what does a man (?) from the godless land of perversion and corruption have against "Moslems"? Did we invade your decadent subservient-to-white-man lands?

    Anyway, fellows like you are perfect for the Christian church. From the godless to spiritual ciphers. Quite the promotion. LOL!


    not to mentioning
    who are to supporting
    not to liking
     
    That grammar is amusing reading for a while, but gets annoying fast. Take some lessons man.
    , @Anon
    I really like your some of your comments, what can one do with you?!? So..

    - our wonderful Pope. What about this: http://marymagdalen.blogspot.com? Father Ray Blake writes beautifully, his faith is luminous. Check out his post on why he didn't sign the filial correction.
    - Luther. Heretic. No heresies from you please, yuck, yuck. Stick to Catholic Church. If need be, rest assured, Catechism is clear that embracing invaders is not mandated. But always Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita aeterna! Lest you end a deathbed convert like Wilde. From his "Rome Unvisited":

    And here I set my face towards home,
    For all my pilgrimage is done,
    Although, methinks, yon blood-red sun,
    Marshals the way to holy Rome.

    -
    , @anarchyst
    The “beginning of the end” of Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants.
    Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their "dirty work" for them...
    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Cardinal Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back" against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize celebration of pre-Vatican II principles. Conservative pre-Vatican II Catholicism still exists with SSPX and other Catholic societies.
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  31. Wally says: • Website
    @Priss Factor
    If Antisemitism means blind or pathological hatred of all things Jewish or blaming Jews for everything, then it is wrong.

    But if Philosemitism means blind or pathological worship of all things Jewish even when Jews do bad things, that is also wrong.

    What we need is Anti-Philosemitism. We need to counter this maddening blind worship of all things Jewish.

    As for Weinstein Scandal, I think the angle that it was Jewish Revenge against goyim only serves as moral cover. It's like trying to explain Jordan Belfort's criminality as a delayed generational reaction to country-club Wasp discrimination against Jews. While such an explanation doesn't deny the guilt, it nevertheless offers some rationale for the behavior. Even as it admits Weinstein went too far or sought redress in the wrong way, it implies the validity of Jewish resentment.

    I think Weinstein's sexual transgressions had mostly to do with 'boing'. Indeed, suppose white gentiles are the ugliest people on earth and had done Jews wrong. Would Jews want to hump them for revenge? I think not.

    What’s with these Jew perverts?

    Nationally known Jewish children’s singer, songwriter arrested by FBI for child pornography
    http://us.blastingnews.com/news/2017/09/nationally-known-jewish-childrens-singer-songwriter-arrested-on-child-pornogra-002024197.htmlEric Komar

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  32. iffen says:
    @Peter D. Breden
    "Palestine with its wonderful rolling landscapes and venerable old olive trees, – some of them planted by Mary’s own hands, by the Virgin, Mother of Jesus Christ, the Palestinian peasant woman who owned a plot of olive orchard near present Cremisan Convent in Beit Jalla, still bearing Her name"

    Stopped reading there. Author is obviously delusional and untrustworthy as an observer.

    What?

    You don’t treasure artistic license?

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  33. Avery says:
    @anonymous
    "Remember the Palestinian woman who did “My Body Is A TV Massacre”?
    She developed those skills in piss poor conditions thru hard work & practice practice practice. So can you."

    you mean this --

    Rafeef Ziadeh - We Teach Life, Sir!
    composed as Israel was bombing the crap out of Gaza

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wad5h5K38ms

    That was very moving.
    She was amazing.

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  34. nickels says:

    It is possible to have nothing specific against the jewish people and to, yet, despise, hate, and be implicitly at war with jew power, the rule of the sick and perverted minority.
    Where all this leads is hard to say, but it seems like a both arrogant and stupidly dangerous strategy to deploy a ridiculously outnumbered army in a savage and ruthless attack against a gentile force that is dominated only through their own ignorance and by thin technological wizardry.
    It just begs a devastating counterattack.

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  35. Durruti says:
    @Zumbuddi
    What is wrong with Durruti? Why does he refuse to learn that using "Nazi" as an all purpose pejorative is exactly what Zionists want us to do. Zionists created the demonizing slur 85 years ago
    They've trained us relenessly to believe their propaganda lies.
    Get some brain bleach.

    Recommended: Inconvenienthistory.com

    “What is wrong with Durruti? Why does he refuse to learn that using “Nazi” as an all purpose pejorative is exactly what Zionists want us to do. Zionists created the demonizing slur 85 years ago
    They’ve trained us relenessly to believe their propaganda lies.
    Get some brain bleach.”

    What is wrong with the sectarian – plant ‘Zumbuddi’ who attacks one section of a comment and ignores the major portion of the comment directed toward the author’s (Israel Shamir) use of the term “anti-Semitism” (which is the major portion of the title of his article – stay on topic Mr. Zambuddi?)?

    If ‘Zambuddi’ wishes to defend Nazis, (whom my Belgian father -and his 4 brothers and my 2 Grandfathers, one cousin, and two uncles, fought against), that is his/your sad business. Nazis were not Republicans, and they assisted Roosevelt, Franco, Salazar, Blum, Mussolini, and many others to destroy the Spanish Republic.

    Maybe you – ‘Zambuddi’ wish to deny that Nazi crime (only one of many). The original Durruti, Buenaventura Durruti, and his Anarchists, fought to save the Democratically Elected Spanish Republic. Durruti gave his life in the streets of Madrid so that the Republic might live.

    The Nazis and Fascism will not lead us to Freedom. they are just a branch of totalitarian imperialist development, morally and politically analogous to modern day American democrat and republican party politicians.

    The Only Road for us in America is to Restore our Republic, our Sacred Democratic Republic. Lexington and Concord was not a dream; and all the events that led to that moment must happen again.

    Our Yellow brick Road

    Honor: Emotion: Love of Country: Spiritualism:

    Leave your fear at the door!

    Respect all! Bow to none!

    God Bless Buenaventura Durruti.

    Fuck You ‘Zambuddi’

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    Are you saying your sainted John F Kennedy would have fought with the side that attacked & destroyed Catholic churches, convents & the nuns, priests, children in them?

    Are you boasting that your ancestors fought with Stalinist Communists and - - - with Zionists, who made up the International Brigade?

    U wanna take 2 deep breaths & untwist your thinking?

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  36. joe webb says:
    @Priss Factor
    If Antisemitism means blind or pathological hatred of all things Jewish or blaming Jews for everything, then it is wrong.

    But if Philosemitism means blind or pathological worship of all things Jewish even when Jews do bad things, that is also wrong.

    What we need is Anti-Philosemitism. We need to counter this maddening blind worship of all things Jewish.

    As for Weinstein Scandal, I think the angle that it was Jewish Revenge against goyim only serves as moral cover. It's like trying to explain Jordan Belfort's criminality as a delayed generational reaction to country-club Wasp discrimination against Jews. While such an explanation doesn't deny the guilt, it nevertheless offers some rationale for the behavior. Even as it admits Weinstein went too far or sought redress in the wrong way, it implies the validity of Jewish resentment.

    I think Weinstein's sexual transgressions had mostly to do with 'boing'. Indeed, suppose white gentiles are the ugliest people on earth and had done Jews wrong. Would Jews want to hump them for revenge? I think not.

    “If Antisemitism means blind or pathological hatred of all things Jewish or blaming Jews for everything, then it is wrong.”

    Anti-Semitism is actually a good tag for dislike and avoidance of jews and arabs. Their languages are not from the Indo-European language group. Language does not prove everything, but it is a signifier of separation, genetically speaking.

    Babylonia and Egypt were very much into the Priest-King kind of religion. This also includes a large part of the Middle East generally, including the jews. This was ” foreign to the Greek temperament.”
    Page 47, The Mycenaeans, by Lord Wm. Taylour.

    The Greeks were from the North, not the Middle East/Asia Minor. Different genes. This also accounts for the fact that only Whites invented free speech, small d democracy, and elections.

    Jehovah is a warrior God. Allah is a warrior God. Jesus, while a jew probably, got subverted by Hellenistic/Stoic notions of Peace, for want of a briefer term, and thereby broke away from the Priest-King-Warrior God genes of the Middle East. Some argue that Jesus was not a jew, particularly the Talmud (son of a Roman soldier and a whore who could have been anything, genetically).

    So….anti-semitism is alive and well, and growing, as we White people realize that semites are dangerous to a genuinely small d democratic people who do not go in for priest-kings, like the jews and arabs or, worshiip warrior gods, or worse, like not a few agnostic jews who do not Believe in Jehovah, nevertheless believe in Jews as God.

    Joe Webb

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    So….anti-semitism is alive and well, and growing

    Among whites, I would worry less about antisemitism or philosemitism than philonegroism, esp among the women... though to be sure, Jews promote jungle fever.

    In the end, if the white race faces doom, it will be the African invasion of EU.

    African women have 7 kids each, European women have 1.5 each. Worse, European women got jungle fever, and European men are negro-worshiping cucks who even go so far as the encourage white women going black. So, not only are white women not having enough kids but those that do are birthing mulatto-negroes who have effectively killed the white-child-that-could-have-been.
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  37. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Thank you, Mr Shamir, though the comments won’t do justice to the piece, I appreciate a journalist who actually reports on interesting current affairs, has nice tidbits about political campaigns, and tries to understand political trends going forward. As opposed to lazy and wordy essays of philosophical-historical defense of communism-socialism-Mao, essentially click bait for the frenzied commentariat.

    More coverage of Austrian politics would be welcomed. And kowtowing to Israel is not the only recipe to disarm forever-guiltiers, the old fashioned Christian one would work well (with deadline), if executed by a savvy Germanphone. Will Kurz’s generation be the one to do it?

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    "Austria, he had a go of misfortunes: hackers released his correspondence with the SDO, his plans became known to public, the SDO leaders had to stand down and SDO had lost the election."

    What a misfortune! Do we know more?
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  38. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    Thank you, Mr Shamir, though the comments won't do justice to the piece, I appreciate a journalist who actually reports on interesting current affairs, has nice tidbits about political campaigns, and tries to understand political trends going forward. As opposed to lazy and wordy essays of philosophical-historical defense of communism-socialism-Mao, essentially click bait for the frenzied commentariat.

    More coverage of Austrian politics would be welcomed. And kowtowing to Israel is not the only recipe to disarm forever-guiltiers, the old fashioned Christian one would work well (with deadline), if executed by a savvy Germanphone. Will Kurz's generation be the one to do it?

    “Austria, he had a go of misfortunes: hackers released his correspondence with the SDO, his plans became known to public, the SDO leaders had to stand down and SDO had lost the election.”

    What a misfortune! Do we know more?

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  39. @Jake
    "The US occupation army in Europe instilled terrible fear of Jews in European hearts and minds."

    And why did the US do that? Because the US is run by WASP culture for WASP culture. WASP culture was fully formed out of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, which was a Judaizing heresy. Judaizing heresy always produces culture and politics that are pro-Jewish.

    Oliver Cromwell, that beloved quintessential early WASP, made alliance with Jews specifically so WASPs could continue to wage wars - physical and cultural - to destroy non-WASP European cultures.

    WASP culture always has been, and always will be, allied with Jews against the vast majority of white Christians ruled by the WASP Elites.

    Until Christians in the Anglosphere understand that and act to save themselves from WASP cultural overlordship, whatever they do to try to stop this insanity is pissing in the wind at best.

    Exactamundo, Jake; British ergo WASP PhiloSemitism is structural; it’s systemic; it’s baked in the cake (or biscuit, if you will).

    (I hope you can play hopscotch, because a lot of thoughts are coming to mind, they’re connected but it would take either 3000 words or a day’s time to create a shorter, crisp narrative. I just want to ‘drop the pellets’ here.)

    E Michael Jones taught/is teaching me the steps in that development — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4p7A0EtZqg&t=450s
    Barren Metal: British Impiricism vs German Idealism

    Jones’s discussion of Adam Smith shatters the foundation of Western/American capitalist adulation of Smith’s Wealth of Nations as basis for capitalist economic system.
    In his series of lectures on How Jews Created Capitalism, Jerry Muller relies on Adam Smith to endorse the “Greed is Good” (just like debt) thesis.

    Jones’s major argument is that the Reformation in England had NO THEOLOGICAL basis/ foundation whatsoever, it was merely a land-grab: the monarch seized the (extensive) properties of the Catholic church/monastic orders.

    Jones mentions the transition of usurious systems from Medici Florence (in which Jews were relatively small-time participants) to Fuggars to Netherlands (where Jews exiled from Spain became dominant).

    Niall Ferguson’s “Ascent of Money” traces the same path, extending it (as does Jones) to the Bank of England, where control of the people’s money was taken out of their hands, designed never to be repaid, and gave the king free rein to wage wars at will. That system still prevails.
    (Ferguson was entrusted by the Rothschilds to search their papers and compose a two-volume biography of the Rothschild family.)

    I haven’t listened to the entire Jones video & should do, but this bit was really intriguing:
    Jones said that Fichte re-installed logos* in German/Prussian culture, and he did this relying on Benedictine monks and their guiding principle: Ora et Labore: Pray and Work, or Work is Prayer and Prayer is Work, as we were taught.
    Does Arbeit Macht Frei come to mind?

    Sam Shama & the horse he rides in on mentioned Sebastian Haffner’s “The Mind of Hitler.” Before I was able to acquire that volume, I gained access to Haffner’s “Memoir,” which he wrote from age 7, in 1914, until 1933, but did not publish. Haffner’s son, Oliver Pretzel, published the manuscript. It’s chock full of insights; I will focus on this one passage:
    Germany has been defeated; Haffner & his German schoolboy pals are bereft: war had been a game to them, a thrilling game, and suddenly, it was over; their world was shattered.
    Weird things happen; ta dum ta dum ta dum, Rathenau is assassinated — this is a very big deal — major event — for Haffner, for Germans, (and especially for Rabbi Stephen Wise, tho Haffner has no awareness whatsoever of zionism, the involvement of zionists at Versailles, etc.).
    After Rathenau’s assassination an intense conflict rages, even in Haffner’s 11th grade classroom: Should Germany take the Rathenau (Jewish) path or not? Even among the 11th graders, the conflict frequently comes to violence & bloodletting.

    Here’s the passage: Haffner sees a schoolmate doodling a geometric figure on his paper; it’s attractive, and Haffner is tempted to copy it himself. He asks his schoolmate, “What is that?” The mate responds, “Don’t you know? It’s the new symbol of hatred of the Jews!”

    It is, of course, the swastika.

    When I read that I thought it must have been something the son/publisher inserted in the original manuscript; I didn’t think the swastika was associated with “hatred of the Jews” until ~May of 1933 when James Waterman Wise, Rabbi Stephen Wise’s son, published a really nasty screed, “Swastika,” in which the first paragraph identified the design as “symbolizing hatred of Jews.”

    BUT — cycle back to Jones’s mention of the influence of the Benedictines in re-establishing logos, and the value of work, and the anti-value of usury, in German culture, in contrast to the opposite value sets in British culture.

    THEN realize that Hitler attended a Benedictine high school, sang in its choir. It is claimed that Hitler inspiration for the swastika at center of the Hakenkreuze was a design still visible in the stonework of his Benedictine high school.

    SO it may be the case that Jews would have perceived the Benedictine affirmation of logos as enshrined by the Catholic and Benedictine-trained Hitler to be the reification of their projected hatred of logos.

    IT IS THE CASE, on no less authority than that of David Engel, USHMM scholar of the Holocaust and professor of that study at New York Univ,, U Penn, TelAviv Univ., that National Socialists DID NOT, repeat DID NOT use antisemitic rhetoric during their campaigns in rise to power, nor did National Socialists use antisemitic rhetoric once having gained power; nor did National Socialists use “exterminationist” rhetoric at any time in their rise or period of rule (contrary to Sam Shama’s wet dreams).
    Prof. David Engel states and repeats that the 25 points that Hitler drafted in 1920, that called for certain civil/legal limitations of Jewish power but NOT for any form of violence much less ‘extermination’ of Jews, was the same program implemented once Hitler became chancellor in 1933. Furthermore, Engel says, even then, that list of demands was implemented incompletely and in scattershot fashion, and not through diktat but after parliamentary consideration, and over a jagged time-frame.

    MY tentative conclusion: That zionist Jews like James Waterman Wise, and Haffner’s “schoolmate,” perceived (projected) the Swastika to be a symbol of “hatred of Jews” was just that — a projection of Jewish rejection of logos, and a signal of Jewry’s deep antipathy to the German intention to regain sovereignty over its own culture of “pray and work,” and of its system of non-usurious finance — which is exactly what National Socialists did, that enabled it to emerge from the depths of unemployment & debt to economic stability, despite the Jewish declaration of economic war on Germany.

    * Jones’s concept of Logos – anti-Logos is best explained by him, here:

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4p7A0EtZqg&t=450s

    "Benedictines taught the Germans how to work."

    Then he tells of being in Tanzania, where he noticed a broken water pump. He asked a (governor), "Why is the pump broken?"
    Governor says, "It's been broken for 30 years; they are all broken."

    Benedictines had been in Tanzania but left hundreds of years ago.

    Jones claims (part) German ancestry. He says, If Benedictines had left Germany, his people would still be living in mud huts. Benedictines taught Germans that LABOR was the crucial value of an economy, and Benedictines stayed around in Germany to embed that value in the German psyche.

    Now, consider that beginning in ~1900, German-born and German educated Arthur Ruppin tried to teach Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe to work in Palestine. One aliyeh waa so unsuccessful that he had to send them back.
    Ruppin had been sent to Palestine in 1907 to survey Jewish situation; he wrote a lengthy analysis of what he found. Some excerpts:

    " . . . a brief description of the Jewish colonies and Jewish agricultural life. The colonies have been founded within the last thirty years, and along two lines: some by young people who came out of Eastern Europe, bringing with them much enthusiasm and industriousness, but little by way of experience or economic resources; others by the programmatic colonization work of Baron Rothschild.

    With few exceptions (e.g., Rehoboth) the first type of colony went to pieces in the first few years, or found itself compelled to place itself under the protection of Baron Rothschild. The colonization work of the Baron has achieved much for Palestine and has created enduring values. enormous sums have, indeed, been swallowed up by it; nor can it be said that the colonies have come up to the expectations with which the founder may have started out. But the fault lies not with the work of the Baron, but with the fact that, when he resolved to undertake Jewish colonization in Palestine, he already found a number of Jewish colonies in a desperate condition, and was compelled, willy-nilly, to begin with these. Most of the mistakes which have been made in the colonization work may be traced back to this situation.

    The first mistake which I must point out was the fact that the persons who were to be transformed into farmers did not know enough about agriculture. They had not been brought into the country according to plan; they had simply come, had installed themselves one way or another as agriculturalists, soon found themselves at the end of their means, and called for help. It is difficult to find among the Jews the right sort of human material for agriculture; there are, indeed, statistics of Russian, Galician and East European Jews who live by agriculture; but there seems to be a wide gap between these statistics and what I have observed personally in East Europe. The Jews who, according to the statistical tables, belong in the class of agriculturalists, are for the most part not farmers, but landowners, who lease out their lands, or agricultural day laborers, or else small cattle-breeders; in any case, they are not the type of farmer which is needed for Palestine. In consequence it appears altogether doubtful whether we shall find, anywhere in the world, Jews whose abilities and training would fit them to become successful farmers in Palestine. It will be necessary to put the land settlers thorough a period of preliminary training in the country itself so that they may win the necessary experience acclimatize themselves, become accustomed to the work, and in general become acquainted with the general conditions obtaining in Palestine.

    The second mistake consisted in the fact that persons who were in desperate need suddenly found themselves, through the munificence of Baron Rothschild, in possession of considerable sums, and could without any effort on their own part obtain all sorts of equipment which other farmers must as a rule acquire slowly, through the years, and by the sweat of the brow. And the old rule still holds, that the man who acquires the means to a livelihood only after much effort, prizes and guards these means, while the man who has these means thrown into his lap will not know how to appreciate them. We therefore find in Palestine a vast difference between German and Jewish colonists in regard to the card which they bestow on their live and other stock. This has nothing to do with inferior ability on the part of the Jews but with the circumstance that the German colonist has created what he possesses by his own labor, and he treats it with more care, foresight and affection. The superior stability of the German on the land, again, is connected with the organic way in which he acquired, and grew with, his possessions; the Jew obtained his as it were overnight.

    The third mistake was the system of administration, which blocked the development of a spirit of independence among the colonists. An agricultural expert was appointed for every group of colonies; his instructions to the colonists were binding, but the risk was carried, formally and legally, by the colonists themselves. A situation like this is impossible in the long run. I can imagine two methods of agricultural colonization. A man may work under the direction of an administrator, but without accepting responsibility. It is also possible for a settler to make his own decisions on his own responsibility. But it is hard for me to imagine a system under which the farmer must bear the responsibility while following the instructions of the administrator. It is for this reason that the Jewish colonist does not feel the same responsibility as the farmer who takes the risk for his own decisions.
     
    To summarize: early Jewish colonists were unsuccessful because they did not have the habits of agriculture; were too readily provided with funds -- i.e. rewarded for failure -- thus did not develop habit of working methodically for their needs; and the system of taking taking decisions and responsibility for them was lacking, i.e. risk was 'socialized' but reward was individualized, (similar to the banking collapse in 2008).

    Today, militarism is the means by which Israel has resolved these "three mistakes" that Ruppin identified -- see, for example, https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/06/israel-startup-nation-the-good-the-great-and-the-one-fatal-flaw/
    -->Every young Jewish person in Israel must serve in military;
    --> Military experience is source for group-building and skills acquisition that evolves into entrepreneurship
    --->Lots of start-ups (but Israeli startups notably are short-lived; they are traded, not built up over long years)
    ---> Lots of hype among young entrepreneurs, but frequently does not match actual production -- over promise, under perform
    ---> But failure is not feared so risky behavior is prevalent (one suspects, because there's always a bail-out, like Rothschilds in 1907, or Uncle Sam, today)


    At about the same time as Ruppin was "producing Hebrew culture in Palestine," USSR offered Jews land in Biro-Bidjan. Jewish run agencies were created to survey the area, to finance settlement, to get support from USSR and other states, but the E European migrants to the land complained, they 'relapsed' to petty trading, the women prostituted themselves because they could not make a go of settling the land -- they did not "know how to work."

    Jewish Telegraph Agency indexes over 460 articles, between 1928 and 2011, dealing with settlement of East European Jews in Biro-Bidjan. Some examples:

    Settlers in Bureya Disappointed, Prefer Charges Against Ozet, Sponsor

    October 18, 1928
    https://www.jta.org/1928/10/18/archive/settlers-in-bureya-disappointed-prefer-charges-against-ozet-sponsor

    https://www.jta.org/page/47?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50


    https://www.jta.org/page/6?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50

    https://www.jta.org/page/9?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50

    https://www.jta.org/page/12?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50

    https://www.jta.org/page/15?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50

    https://www.jta.org/page/18?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50

    The zionist campaign that keeps USA in thrall to Israeli-zionist demands and that censors honest & objective exploration of Jewish patterns and preferences; the US & others spinelessness & sympathies that enables and abets this counterproductive behavior, are counterproductive above all to the progress of the Jewish people, not to mention how many other lives are being destroyed by these ideological psychopathologies.
    , @Incitatus

    “I didn’t think the swastika was associated with “hatred of the Jews” until ~May of 1933 when James Waterman Wise, Rabbi Stephen Wise’s son, published a really nasty screed, “Swastika,” in which the first paragraph identified the design as “symbolizing hatred of Jews.”
     
    Not very good with dates S2C?

    “Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism… How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist!”
    -Adolf Hitler "Why We Are Anti-Semites," 15 Aug 1920 Hofbräuhaus speech
     
    Let’s see. 1933 - 1920 = 13 years? Dolf’s “hatred of the Jews” seems well before the Wise’s “really nasty screed” in ‘33.

    “National Socialists DID NOT, repeat DID NOT use antisemitic rhetoric during their campaigns in rise to power, nor did National Socialists use antisemitic rhetoric once having gained power; nor did National Socialists use “exterminationist” rhetoric at any time in their rise or period of rule (contrary to Sam Shama’s wet dreams).”
     
    Was Hitler a National Socialist

    “Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's work.”

    “Was there any shady undertaking, any form of foulness, especially in cultural life, in which at least one Jew did not participate? On putting the probing knife carefully to that kind of abscess one immediately discovered, like a maggot in a putrescent body, a little Jew who was often blinded by the sudden light.”

    “Was there any excrement, any shamelessness in any form, above all in cultural life, in which at least one Jew would not have been involved? As soon as one even carefully cut into such an abscess, one found, like maggots in a decaying body, often blinded by the sudden light, a kike.”

    -Adolf Hitler ‘Mein Kampf’ Chapter 3 Volume One 1925
     
    Antisemitic? Of course not. Sentiments of Dolf’s comity and benevolence. Yes, eight years later Wise must have suffered from “a projection of Jewish rejection of logos, and a signal of Jewry’s deep antipathy to the German intention to regain sovereignty over its own culture of “pray and work...

    Spending too much time with Wally and the peacock S2C?

    Listen to your grandchildren. Your words “pathetic”, “inconvenient realities” and “obsessed” come readily to mind.
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  40. @joe webb
    "If Antisemitism means blind or pathological hatred of all things Jewish or blaming Jews for everything, then it is wrong."


    Anti-Semitism is actually a good tag for dislike and avoidance of jews and arabs. Their languages are not from the Indo-European language group. Language does not prove everything, but it is a signifier of separation, genetically speaking.

    Babylonia and Egypt were very much into the Priest-King kind of religion. This also includes a large part of the Middle East generally, including the jews. This was " foreign to the Greek temperament."
    Page 47, The Mycenaeans, by Lord Wm. Taylour.

    The Greeks were from the North, not the Middle East/Asia Minor. Different genes. This also accounts for the fact that only Whites invented free speech, small d democracy, and elections.

    Jehovah is a warrior God. Allah is a warrior God. Jesus, while a jew probably, got subverted by Hellenistic/Stoic notions of Peace, for want of a briefer term, and thereby broke away from the Priest-King-Warrior God genes of the Middle East. Some argue that Jesus was not a jew, particularly the Talmud (son of a Roman soldier and a whore who could have been anything, genetically).

    So....anti-semitism is alive and well, and growing, as we White people realize that semites are dangerous to a genuinely small d democratic people who do not go in for priest-kings, like the jews and arabs or, worshiip warrior gods, or worse, like not a few agnostic jews who do not Believe in Jehovah, nevertheless believe in Jews as God.

    Joe Webb

    So….anti-semitism is alive and well, and growing

    Among whites, I would worry less about antisemitism or philosemitism than philonegroism, esp among the women… though to be sure, Jews promote jungle fever.

    In the end, if the white race faces doom, it will be the African invasion of EU.

    African women have 7 kids each, European women have 1.5 each. Worse, European women got jungle fever, and European men are negro-worshiping cucks who even go so far as the encourage white women going black. So, not only are white women not having enough kids but those that do are birthing mulatto-negroes who have effectively killed the white-child-that-could-have-been.

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    In your world view are all Darkies dumb brutes?
    Were there no kings and queens of stature & learning among the Ethiopiams, or the people who created a center of learning at Timbuktu?

    St Augustine --- he was Black, his mother a Berber-- brutish Darkie?

    The Egyptians who built pyramids --& whose most noteworthy accomplishment was getting Jews to work :') --- dumb Darkies?

    Hell, Moses was probably Egyptian, probably Darkie. Dumb brute? Same for Solomon & maybe David too
    Dumb brutes?
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  41. iThink says:

    Gentile whites in the west are completely neutered by Jews thanks to the latter’s total control of the media, academia, the judiciary and all our financial institutions. But Jews are greedy and they are once again getting ahead of themselves. The mass importation of non-whites that they have engineered for the west will eventually bite them in the rear. Unlike gentile whites, the Muslims, Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Africans do not have a Nazi history with Jews and therefore will not be easily guilt trip into loyalty to Jews.

    The Muslims know through their own history that the Jews are not to be trusted. The Chinese are far too practical minded and not politically ambitious enough to care about the Jews and their liberal ideology(except those educated at Ivy League law schools who’ve been force fed the Kool-aid, it’s a good thing the Jews limit their enrollment at the Ivies), the Mexicans and Africans simply consider all Jews “white” and distrust them just the same.

    The only group that makes for good puppets for the Jews are the Indians, who now make up some of the most vocal anti-Trumpers and are drinking the liberal Kool-aid by the buckets. That’s why the Jews in SV, Wall Street, DNC, the media and academia are busy propping up Indians as the new CEOs, politicians, Dean of colleges etc. They are dark skin enough to fit the diversity profile, smarter than the blacks but not smart enough to see through the liberal hypocrisy, meek like the East Asians, worship all things white and don’t know/care about the difference between Jews and gentiles. Indians like to think of themselves as white. They love to crow about their “Aryan” roots and how they are actually classified as “Caucasians”. What’s more, there are 1.3 billion of them while the Jewish population is dwindling in the West. Look for George Soros’ Open Societies to bring in millions more Indians to the West and continue to prop them up. They make for good Jew puppets.

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    The only group that makes for good puppets for the Jews are the Indians, who now make up some of the most vocal anti-Trumpers and are drinking the liberal Kool-aid by the buckets. ... They make for good Jew puppets.

     

    That made me smile, because it is so damned true. But, you are partly wrong about "the most anti-Trumpers." A sizeable section of the Indian diaspora, which is Hindoo-right leaning, is very much pro-Trump.

    It was quite amusing to witness the spectacle of Trump-the-unabashed-racist lighting the Hindoo traditional lamp on their "festival of lights."

    Geopolitics makes for some strange bedfellows indeed.
    , @Anon-og
    Thought provoking comment!

    The only group that makes for good puppets for the Jews are the Indians

    The irony here being that it was the Brits who colonized the Indian mind.
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  42. iThink says:
    @macilrae
    An accurate appraisal according to my direct experience - I am sure you're careful with whom you eat and drink, Mr Shamir. You have a lot of courage.

    Contemplating on Mr Trump's antics before and, now, after his appointment, one would have to say that somebody must be leaning on him pretty heavily: perhaps threatening release of private disclosures which would annihilate him.

    The amount of discreditable information at the disposal of those who would manipulate our politicians is very extensive. In my opinion this, and not money or career enhancement, explains many of the bewildering and sudden policy changes we so often see.

    Contemplating on Mr Trump’s antics before and, now, after his appointment, one would have to say that somebody must be leaning on him pretty heavily: perhaps threatening release of private disclosures which would annihilate him.

    Charges of anti-semitism by the Jew York Times always works, and if that isn’t enough, Trump’s son-in-law is Israel’s favorite son and as his “senior advisor”, is basically the one running the show in the WH. Say hello to President Kushner, America’s first de facto Jewish president.

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  43. Zumbuddi says:
    @Durruti
    "What is wrong with Durruti? Why does he refuse to learn that using “Nazi” as an all purpose pejorative is exactly what Zionists want us to do. Zionists created the demonizing slur 85 years ago
    They’ve trained us relenessly to believe their propaganda lies.
    Get some brain bleach."

    What is wrong with the sectarian - plant 'Zumbuddi' who attacks one section of a comment and ignores the major portion of the comment directed toward the author's (Israel Shamir) use of the term "anti-Semitism" (which is the major portion of the title of his article - stay on topic Mr. Zambuddi?)?

    If 'Zambuddi' wishes to defend Nazis, (whom my Belgian father -and his 4 brothers and my 2 Grandfathers, one cousin, and two uncles, fought against), that is his/your sad business. Nazis were not Republicans, and they assisted Roosevelt, Franco, Salazar, Blum, Mussolini, and many others to destroy the Spanish Republic.

    Maybe you - 'Zambuddi' wish to deny that Nazi crime (only one of many). The original Durruti, Buenaventura Durruti, and his Anarchists, fought to save the Democratically Elected Spanish Republic. Durruti gave his life in the streets of Madrid so that the Republic might live.

    The Nazis and Fascism will not lead us to Freedom. they are just a branch of totalitarian imperialist development, morally and politically analogous to modern day American democrat and republican party politicians.

    The Only Road for us in America is to Restore our Republic, our Sacred Democratic Republic. Lexington and Concord was not a dream; and all the events that led to that moment must happen again.

    Our Yellow brick Road

    Honor: Emotion: Love of Country: Spiritualism:

    Leave your fear at the door!

    Respect all! Bow to none!

    God Bless Buenaventura Durruti.

    Fuck You 'Zambuddi'

    Are you saying your sainted John F Kennedy would have fought with the side that attacked & destroyed Catholic churches, convents & the nuns, priests, children in them?

    Are you boasting that your ancestors fought with Stalinist Communists and – – – with Zionists, who made up the International Brigade?

    U wanna take 2 deep breaths & untwist your thinking?

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  44. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Historian Tony Judt called it “outrageous,” while representatives of the Israeli Labor party called for caution, warning that the conscription of American troops under the Israeli flag might empower the most hawkish elements in that country, and provoke anti-Semitism in the U.S. In National Review, editor Rich Lowry condemned these “voices of hesitation and appeasement,” warning that he “smelled some, er, Jewish self-hatred” on the wind.

    Writing in the New York Sun, Commentary editor Norman Podhoretz described the plan as “bold, candid, and Churchillian,” and urged President Bush to consider adopting it before “Islamo-fascist appeasers, isolationists, and anti-Semites” could rally their opposition. “These nativists will raise once again the tired old cry of ‘dual loyalty’, impugning our patriotism,” warned Podhoretz.

    Christian Right leaders quickly got behind the proposal. Televangelist Pat Robertson described the plan as “the single best way to assure that the blessing of Almighty GOD will descend upon this country,” and offered the warning that “if we reject this opportunity to stand with God’s own people, He will smite us once again—as he smote the sodomites, drunken idolaters and welfare queens of New Orleans.”

    Please share this article by using the link below. When you cut and paste an article, Taki’s Magazine misses out on traffic, and our writers don’t get paid for their work. Email editors@takimag.com to buy additional rights. http://takimag.com/article/the_u.s.-israeli_draft/print#ixzz4vt0JtmlN

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    You can't tell when Taki is doing satire?
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  45. What a sickening message: “It is perfectly ok to dislike Jews.” If this confused author had any sense at all, he would not hide behind the “anti-Semitic” card — he’d have the guts to come out and say, It is perfectly ok to dislike Zionists. But that term is not-surprisingly missing from this rambling article. The problem in Israel is not the “Jews” but the Zionists who have delusions of an Israel from Jordan to the sea. Many Jews — in and out of Israel — are not Zionists and oppose that delusion. And many Zionists — in and out of Israel — are not Jews. The author needs to shift focus from Jews to Zionists — then maybe he will have a clearer picture of reality.

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  46. Art says:
    @Gruben
    There is more information which should be known on the scandal which developed around the face-book page where fake followers of the Austrian politician Sebastian Kurz posted anti-Semitic comments.
    - In interviews with Austrian newspapers Silberstein recognized that the idea to create such a face-book page with anti-Semitic content was his. He paid an Austrian who wrote the comments. The money (100.000 Euros) came from the SPÖ (Sozialdemokratische Partei Österreichs), the party of the current Austrian Chancellor Kern. The party used money it – like all Austrian political parties - had received from the budget of the Austrian republic for the financing of their campaign. The Chancellor and other SPÖ-politicians then declared that they had not known that Silberstein used part of their payments to have fake face-book pages written. Many people in Austria believe that the real aim of Tal Silberstein was to create some kind of “proof” of how anti-Semitic Austria is – with the money of the Austrian republic.
    - The journalists who made public this scandal have, according to information the police gave to a popular newspaper, afterwards been for several days followed by professional agents of an Israeli security firm using Mossad agents. Perhaps the idea of the anti-Semitic face-book pages has some kind of connection to authorities in Israel. The popular Vienna newspaper (Kronen-Zeitung) which published these interesting details belongs to an Austrian Jewish family.
    - Sebastian Kurz who won the elections in Austria seems to have some Jewish ancestors. Also the people who helped to publish the Silberstein story mostly seem to be Jewish.

    Also the people who helped to publish the Silberstein story mostly seem to be Jewish.

    Two points – one damning – the other hopeful.

    Why did Gentiles not publish this story — answer – FEAR – Fear – fear — fear of the Jews. That sentence demonstrates Mr. Shamir’s point – Gentiles fear Jews.

    Hopefully some Jews are waking up to the dilemma of their tribe – known public dishonesty – they have come to see that they are just not trusted. That they can no longer jam down our throats any lie they can conger up.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Although when Jews publish something negative about themselves – most of the time their goal is control the narrative.

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    Hey Genius

    "Conger up" s/b "conjure up".

    Peace
    Sherm
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  47. John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt wrote a book about :THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY.
    In this book, one can discover that a very small minority took the control of the US. This minority has in its hands the Congress, the Government and the Media. This minority has even put in place a system to Watch the Universities and to make sure that no-one dares to oppose Israel’s Policy. In fact, the US are now a dictature managed by this minority. The elections are just a show as those elected have to obey that minority .
    Even if that minority is essentially composed of people coming fron the Jewish community, it is not obvious that they represent the Jewish’s community.

    Some integrist Christians have joined that minority as they are waiting for the last Judgment and the return of the Messiah. These are even worse than the Jews from from that minority as they are as crazy as the terrorits from Daesh.

    That minority is totally mad and as they are with unlimited ressources, they represent the biggest threat to the world. Only putting the US under chapter 11, might prevent that minority to lead us to Armageddon. But as nobody (China, Russia, Europe, etc..) wants to go through the consequences of the US bankrupt, we are not going to avoid the Apocalypse.

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    This is what Jews do. They propagandize even our children.
    And to settle the question of how many Jews are Zionist....find me one Jew in the msm or one Jew in the 1000's of Jewish publications who doesn't promote Israel.
    True anti zionist Jews are few and far between....very few.

    Educators and Librarians: You may order "America and the Holocaust" at PBS

    America and the Holocaust: Suggestions for the Classrom

    Themes: The Holocaust, anti-Semitism, U.S. immigration policy, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, World War II

    Complex social and political factors shaped America's response to the Holocaust, from Kristallnacht in 1938 through the liberation of the death camps in 1945. For a short time, the US had an opportunity to open its doors, but instead erected a "paper wall," a bureaucratic maze that prevented all but a few Jewish refugees from entering the country. It was not until 1944, that a small band of Treasury Department employees forced the government to respond.

    Before Watching
    Write the following terms on the board:
    anti-Semitism ethnic cleansing
    holocaust refugee
    immigrant quotas
    red tape melting pot

    Tell students that these words are related to the program they are about to watch. Ask them what they think these terms mean, and what they think the film will be about. Assign half the class to listen for these terms as they view the program, to broaden the definitions the class came up with before watching the film.

    Assign the other half of the class to pay attention to the sources of information made available to government officials and the public, and how these were used to influence public opinion.

    Discussion Questions
    What image do you most remember from the film? Why? What makes that image an important visual symbol for the story the film tells?

    How was the film different from what you expected? How did it change or expand your understanding of the terms you discussed before the film? How did it change or expand your understanding of the Holocaust, and of the role of the United States in World War II?

    U.S. government knew about the persecution of European Jews long before the genocide began. What sources of information did the U.S. government have about this persecution and subsequent mass murders? How was this information treated and why? When do you think the government should have become involved in helping the Jews, and what should it have done? Why do you think the government finally decided to set up the War Refugee Board?

    During the Casablanca Conference in January 1943, Roosevelt spoke with the French resident general at Rabat, Morocco, about postwar independence and the Jewish immigrants in North America. Roosevelt argued that

    ...the number of Jews engaged in the practice of the professions (law, medicine, etc.) should be definitely limited to the percentage that the Jewish population in North Africa bears to the whole of the North African population.... [T]his plan would further eliminate the specific and understandable complaints which the Germans bore towards the Jews in Germany, namely, that while they represented a small part of the population, over 50 percent of the lawyers, doctors, schoolteachers, college professors, etc., in Germany were Jews.1

    What do you think about Roosevelt's suggestion? How do his comments reflect the anti-Semitism of the times? How do they help explain his inaction?

    In the preface to the book The Abandonment of the Jews(Pantheon Books, 1984), David Wyman recounts the inaction of the U.S. government and much of the public to the news of Hitler's Final Solution and asks, "Would the reaction be different today? Would Americans be more sensitive, less self-centered, more willing to make sacrifices, less afraid of differences now than they were then?" What do you think? Consider our current attitudes towards minorities and immigrants in light of the crises in Bosnia and Rwanda.

    Think about how the sources used to inform and/or influence public opinion were different during World War II and the Gulf War. How has the role of the media changed? How has this been a change for the better? For the worse?

    Suggested Activities
    Compare the coverage of local, national, and world news in your local Sunday newspaper. How is the news of trouble in countries where the United States is involved reported differently than in countries where it isn't? What can students infer from the placement of different articles within the paper? What can they infer from the differences in headlines and the amount of space allotted to different issues? What do they think the newspaper reflects about our society? its values? its interests?

    As a class, list examples of recent hate crimes committed within your state or the country. What happened? Who were the victims? Assign students to choose one example of a hate crime and use newspapers and periodicals to research the circumstances of the crime as well as the public and legal response to it.

    Ask students to interview a recent immigrant to the United States to learn about the immigrants reasons for coming to the United States and the process of immigration. Have students research the U.S. immigration policy for citizens of their subject's native country prior to their interviews. How has the immigration policy for residents of the native country changed during the past fifty years, and what factors have led to these changes?

    As a class, brainstorm definitions of the American Dream. Then list any associations with the term. Ask students to write an essay in which they explain what the term means to them and why.

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  48. Zumbuddi says:
    @Priss Factor
    So….anti-semitism is alive and well, and growing

    Among whites, I would worry less about antisemitism or philosemitism than philonegroism, esp among the women... though to be sure, Jews promote jungle fever.

    In the end, if the white race faces doom, it will be the African invasion of EU.

    African women have 7 kids each, European women have 1.5 each. Worse, European women got jungle fever, and European men are negro-worshiping cucks who even go so far as the encourage white women going black. So, not only are white women not having enough kids but those that do are birthing mulatto-negroes who have effectively killed the white-child-that-could-have-been.

    In your world view are all Darkies dumb brutes?
    Were there no kings and queens of stature & learning among the Ethiopiams, or the people who created a center of learning at Timbuktu?

    St Augustine — he was Black, his mother a Berber– brutish Darkie?

    The Egyptians who built pyramids –& whose most noteworthy accomplishment was getting Jews to work :’) — dumb Darkies?

    Hell, Moses was probably Egyptian, probably Darkie. Dumb brute? Same for Solomon & maybe David too
    Dumb brutes?

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    Exceptions dont disprove the rule. A few hundred worthwile people compared to billions of worthless people dont excuse the worthless.
    , @Priss Factor
    In your world view are all Darkies dumb brutes?

    Not really. It doesn't matter what blacks once were. Chanda Chisala convinced me that the future will belong to the Negroes.

    Why? Negroes got 'big man' mentality and love to hump everyone. This will boost black IQ sky-high in the future, esp in Nigeria. Unlike non-black geeks who don't know how to approach womenfolk, high-IQ blacks are like other jive-ass blacks and go after tons of women. So, smart Nigerians will use their wealth to shamelessly get harems and hump tons of women. So, smart black genes will spread.
    Never mind brain drain. This will be Head Spread.

    And then, Negroes will not only have advantage with muscle and genitalia but with brains. They will not only be beating up non-blacks and humping all their womenfolk but using the intellect like a a million funky Einsteins.
    Soon, blacks will be making flying pyramids that will colonize Mars and other planets and then the entire galaxy. It won't be just a black planet but a black galaxy, to be renamed the Chocolate Milky Way Galaxy. Blacks will become like the monolith in 2001 and take over the entire cosmos.

    A frightening future indeed for non-black folks.
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  49. @Zumbuddi
    We all have to realize some real world impacts to a 'desensitization posture: Jews CAN & will attack those who are effective.

    So we need to know how to protect ourselves

    Research public records of prominent Jews --- they put properties in trusts to create one barrier against lawsuit.

    Acts of terror are not covered under ordinary property insurance. Congress a.ended that --- one can buy a terror rider.

    The Buddy System --- work with organizations that will Have Your Back. That's one more reason Giraldi' s firing is significant --- it signals that WE need to step up and form or join groups that will NOT cave

    Polish skills as much as possible. Rambling presentations are irritating noise in the face of media campaigns the (((adversary))) produces. Think you can't compete?
    Remember the Palestinian woman who did "My Body Is A TV Massacre"?
    She developed those skills in piss poor conditions thru hard work & practice practice practice. So can you.

    Take yourself & your activism seriously. Are you just filling in hours in your day or are you defining an objective & developing skills, knowledge & methods to achieve them?

    Somehow, folks on this forum need to meet up, organize, join forces. FASCES!

    Somehow, folks on this forum need to meet up, organize, join forces.

    And when they do, they better not let anything infiltrate, pervert and subvert it.

    Anything “we” build, “they” can, and will work to destroy…

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  50. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @jilles dykstra
    There is no worldwide group that gets so much attention as jews.
    That jews have power far more than their numbers suggest, who doubts it ?
    80% of the world's media are said to be in jewish hands.
    If not in jewish hands, non commercial media, many are led by jews, such as BBC.
    If not led by jews, many journalists and presentators are jewish, also in the Netherlands.
    And so criticism of jews is antisemitism, and antisemitism is worse than murdering children, antisemitism leads to gas chambers.
    If anything shows that not all jews are nice people it is Israel, from a pr point of view Israel was a big mistake.
    A mistake so big that Israel's only ally is the USA, a USA where jewish influence may disappear at any moment.
    What I'm unable to understand is that jews cannot see that they are living very dangerously.
    From their history and culture I can explain this dangerous living, but why a people on average with 10 points higher on IQ tests go on like this, this is a mystery to me.

    that Israel’s only ally is the USA, a USA where jewish influence may disappear at any moment.

    That fear is fundamentally flawed at some level, even though the Jews have no better friends than the Americans, for sure.

    The exclusive membership cult is counting on the fact that the pagan polytheist “in-his-image” or godless world (aka the non-muslim world) will always view the true monotheist “He-is-One-and-Unique” world, with deep mistrust, a feeling which is mutual anyway.

    Since that is not going away anytime in the foreseeable future, they feel secure in the knowledge that they have many potential allies. For example, they have the Hindoo nationalist evil firmly in their own evil grasp, making the most willing bedfellows, like dogs locked on.

    Those cultists are able and well positioned to take full advantage of the ongoing civilisational clash… i.e. Polytheists vs Monotheists.

    But, the Polytheists come armed with the most advanced weapons of mass destruction, along with spiritual delusions and much gloating of worldly accomplishments, while the True Monotheists are simply armed with the most potent gift of mass salvation, the truth of His Oneness.

    Any guesses who will prevail?

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  51. Eugen says: • Website

    [Too many typos.]

    I so regret this Jew=Israel notion. I deeply regret Israel’s failure though I understand its plight. Israel isthe only THERMOnuclear power in the Mideast. Yet, talk to any Israeli defense official and you will find out that this power is a “NEVER AGAIN” suicide pact for it can in no way use it and survive. Yes, anti-Semitism in Europe came from every mouth and only the lack of Jews in Europe makes manifestation of anti-Semitism visible. But then each European postcard size nation sees itself as a race and speaks of the peoples nect door far worse than against Jews. Indeed, because of the history most Europeans make an exeption when it comes to Jews because MOST do feel that the Holocaust is a criminal brand Europeans rightly must wear and do feel the need to say,”I don’t hate Jews.” But most, I would say that 3 million Arab refugees later, do and would openly apeak of their hate for Arabs for obvious reasons. The refugees suffer from many illusions about living in Europe, just as we faced about going to America, as the Richi et Poveri song of two decades ago expressed. As many express their disappointment violently, not a racial but a cultutal clash ensues. It’s natural: IF A FEW ARABS TERRORIZE YOU, IT’S EASIER TO HATE THEM ALL! But few have expressed their outrage at what Israel deliberately did to undermine Europe sonce tbe 1940s. They are SELF-inhibiting because of the evil they all know Europe inflicted on Jews throughout history. Israel’s problem is that it is a dream that failed at its initial problem. Most of the early Israelis behabed with Arabs and speak to and about Arabs as Southetn US whites speak about blacks. Indeed, Jewish Afrikaans made their Aliah and just switched the term “black” to “Arab”

    Prodeeding on their merry racist ways. Indeed, Middle Easter Jews were treated the same. Thisis the great failure of Israel. It was poised to bring its Arab kin into modernity. But because most Israelis are East Europeans, they treated Arabs and Arab Jews much as EastEuros treat thier cross border regional fellow EastEuros. Had it not been for uperior minds here and there in the Israeli judiciary, Palestinians would have been expelled by Israel simply because it can. Now a right wing element rules in Israel nd Netantahu, the superior mind and practical intellectual, decidedto rhrow his lot with them to keep the PM post. But the vilgar and sacrilegious way in which he invokes the 6 million dead Jews, has nothing to do with any Arab threat. There is none as Shia and Sunni massacre eachother. He knows that tbe Right demands a “Greater Israrel” that exterminates or sends away the Palestinians. Israel has been a xriminak state, nkt because of its Jewish roots– most Israelis are secular and have no 6 million dead mentality. Indeed, Azure, THE RIGHT WING JOURNAL, not long ago editorialized under the banner: ,LOOSING OUR MINDS, that the beneficiaries of Israel’s world top higher education system leave to go work in the West, exactly what it wants Palestinians to do as Greater Israel expands. So, the Israel deream is dead because Israel failed in thw one task in which I could have been totally legitimized: LEAD THE MIDDLE EAST INTO MODERNITY. Instead, it became fortress Israel and in 1967 thought im would become GREATER ISRAEL. But all it did was to get sti k with more Arabs under occupation. The Zionist terrorist, Begin saw that it couldn’t surbive as an East Euro country, typicall killing the guy next door on “existential” grounds of seeking a safer Izrael by making it a GREATER ISRAEL. So, Israel’s existential problem is not because it is Jewish but because it is typically EAST EUROPEAN in how it treats its neighbors and the people forced to live in a Jewish State, treating Arabs under Afrikaans guidance the way South Afrika treated blacks. Zionism has thus become racist. Worst still, because very many young Israelis ( and many older ones too) it has bevome oppressive. It is very painful to see Ziofacism develop in Israel. But from all indications I see that it is as painful for young Diaspora Jews. Hence, the campaign to stop anti-Jewishness abroad is not really to save Jews but to acare them into moving to Israel. This thinking on the part of a lot of Soviet migrants supporting Netanyahu, his base, because they went from mild anti-Jewish expression to being surrounded by the very people they want to destroy. For now the Sunni-Shia death struggle has incapacitated the Arabs as their one asset, oil, has proven to be su ubiquitous. But the dream of Israel leading the Arabs into a common land of modern milk and honey is dead, as the Ex-Soviets lead the right– AND ALL ISRAELIS FOR THAT MATTER, to where East Europe had been, were it not for the fall of Soviet domination. Netanyahu knows this but he thinks he can pull magic out of his hat. Until then, he insults all Europeans, the EU and even the US, while Israel is totally dependent on their massive economic aid. Too many Israelis see hope abroad and too many Diaspora Jews feel morally incapable of supporting the Greater Israel and the increasing totalitaeianism they can see or hear about from relatives in Israel. Too bad as Jews have taught us a lot about being civilized and ethical, no one disputs that. But an Israel domubated by ex-Soviets cannot expect to be better than, let us say, Putin’Russia. The machinations of Mossad operatives and their few loyal friends can only bring about, most importantly, Diaspora alienation, and lassitude amongs Sabras who never knew another homeland but are not blind to ehere the ex-Soviets are taking Israel down a sad and obvious path of corruption, oppression and endless hysteria. There are limits to what America can fix, even with all the Evangelical support. Israel needs to become its foundet’s dream: a nation that EARNS the trust and auoport of its neighbore and of the people itdisplacedto come into being out of a faith-based Biblical text. It is already losing the Diaspora Jewish youth, it’s strong appeal and support from the modern mind, and its Sabra base. As the ex-Soviets see their ambitions fade, they may pull off their “never again” suicide move so typical of EastEuro nihilists.

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  52. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @DESERT FOX
    Zionism is the scourge of the civilized world, where Zionists are in control wars, death and destruction follow.

    Do you see the irony of using the word “civilised,” along with the terms “wars, death and destruction,” the said world perpetuates, notwithstanding Zionist “control”?

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  53. Montecore says:

    Weinstein is a typical Jew. An awful and gross figure. His perversions are shared by many Jews.

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  54. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Che Guava
    A lot of your money is going to direct subsidies of Israel.

    It is repetitive to saying it, but about 4,000 million US$ a year, not to mentioning the money from collection plates from heretical 'evangelical' churches who are to supporting the novel falsehood (heresy) of 'Judaeo-Christian'.

    Meanwhile, the most ancient of middle-eastesn Christian communities, including in Palestine, are forced out by the Israel tail that is to wagging the USA dog.

    Pathetic.

    Also, am not to liking Pope Francesco at all. Flying a group of Moslem invaders on his Papal aeroplane to dump them on the Italian government, one can be sure he is not to hosting them in the Vatican.

    I am not as regular a church-goer as I should be, at least in Japan, it is not crazy. Also, Korean Lutheran churches are not insane, my Korean is not good enough, but some are also holding services in Japanese and in Englsh. They are not heretical (unless one is to considering basic Lutheranism to be the heresy, but as Roman Catholic scholars are now admitting, no heretic.

    From my reading, heresy is the general trend in Lutheran congregations of now in the USA and Germany.

    ... but I am marking my offering when at a Catholic church 'only for church maintenance or domestic use', to avoiding it to going to fake refugees, a.k.a invaders of other places.

    Flying a group of Moslem invaders

    to avoiding it to going to fake refugees, a.k.a invaders of other places.

    So I am curious, what does a man (?) from the godless land of perversion have against “Moslems”? Unless of course you are Korean, in which case, what does a man (?) from the godless land of perversion and corruption have against “Moslems”? Did we invade your decadent subservient-to-white-man lands?

    Anyway, fellows like you are perfect for the Christian church. From the godless to spiritual ciphers. Quite the promotion. LOL!

    not to mentioning
    who are to supporting
    not to liking

    That grammar is amusing reading for a while, but gets annoying fast. Take some lessons man.

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    Why are you to posting as Anonymous? It is a disease on this site, you are likely Talha (tra-la-la). I may be wrong.

    If you are not wanting me to make such mistakes, post with your usual u-name.

    In this

    godless land of perversion
     
    , it is not godless, on many dimensions.

    I have spent time overseas, seeing the harm from Moslems.

    It is their nature, it is their character.

    In S-E Asia, many years ago, the adult men would just muttering insults to anyone else. ... but never hijabs, and because I was there as a child, enjoyed time in Moslem villages with school-friends.

    That has all changed now, probably mainly thanks to Saudi money.

    Later time in western countries, Islam and many Moslems are clearly evil.

    They are to constantly trying to make toe-holds in Japan and Korea, long may they fail.

    ... and yes, I am using the spelling 'Moslem' precisely to irritating people like you.
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  55. damn, mr shamir, are you not afraid? this is pretty brave of you since mr giraldi just got hurt by the very weapon you are criticizing. or does being jewish make you immune to the weapon in question?

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  56. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @iThink
    Gentile whites in the west are completely neutered by Jews thanks to the latter's total control of the media, academia, the judiciary and all our financial institutions. But Jews are greedy and they are once again getting ahead of themselves. The mass importation of non-whites that they have engineered for the west will eventually bite them in the rear. Unlike gentile whites, the Muslims, Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Africans do not have a Nazi history with Jews and therefore will not be easily guilt trip into loyalty to Jews.

    The Muslims know through their own history that the Jews are not to be trusted. The Chinese are far too practical minded and not politically ambitious enough to care about the Jews and their liberal ideology(except those educated at Ivy League law schools who've been force fed the Kool-aid, it's a good thing the Jews limit their enrollment at the Ivies), the Mexicans and Africans simply consider all Jews "white" and distrust them just the same.

    The only group that makes for good puppets for the Jews are the Indians, who now make up some of the most vocal anti-Trumpers and are drinking the liberal Kool-aid by the buckets. That's why the Jews in SV, Wall Street, DNC, the media and academia are busy propping up Indians as the new CEOs, politicians, Dean of colleges etc. They are dark skin enough to fit the diversity profile, smarter than the blacks but not smart enough to see through the liberal hypocrisy, meek like the East Asians, worship all things white and don't know/care about the difference between Jews and gentiles. Indians like to think of themselves as white. They love to crow about their "Aryan" roots and how they are actually classified as "Caucasians". What's more, there are 1.3 billion of them while the Jewish population is dwindling in the West. Look for George Soros' Open Societies to bring in millions more Indians to the West and continue to prop them up. They make for good Jew puppets.

    The only group that makes for good puppets for the Jews are the Indians, who now make up some of the most vocal anti-Trumpers and are drinking the liberal Kool-aid by the buckets. … They make for good Jew puppets.

    That made me smile, because it is so damned true. But, you are partly wrong about “the most anti-Trumpers.” A sizeable section of the Indian diaspora, which is Hindoo-right leaning, is very much pro-Trump.

    It was quite amusing to witness the spectacle of Trump-the-unabashed-racist lighting the Hindoo traditional lamp on their “festival of lights.”

    Geopolitics makes for some strange bedfellows indeed.

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  57. Issac says:
    @Tyrion
    'Jewish yoke'. Kooky fantasy Mr Shamir!

    This article is not much more. Just a string of literary devices in a whimsical tone that does little more than open up the skin for the commenters to rush in and create a weeping sore of projected neuroses and strange onanisms in their posts below.

    One minor quibble though, is worth bringing up, for the benefit of your seemingly few functional readers.

    Now in England, there is a terrible witch-hunt for antisemites in the Labour Party. The idea is to destroy Jeremy Corbyn, to return the party to the people of Blair and his Jewish paymaster Mandelson, who said, “I try to undermine Jeremy Corbyn ‘every single day” with their antisemitism allegations. Corbyn is doing everything to cover himself from this side. Good people, strong activists had been expelled for very little reason,
     
    It is not a 'terrible witch hunt'. It was one of many (ineffective) tools used to tried to lower Mr Corbyn's popularity, because politics is nowawadays played through such accusations. I say ineffective, because it did not work, even though had it been about any other ethnic or religious group, bar the native, it would have worked.

    It did help to lower the number of Jews voting for Labour. Jews don't tend to like anti-Semitism and a (Muslim) Labour councillor declaring "Hitler" to be "history's great man" is surely an understandable turn off.

    On the other hand, it raised the Muslim vote for Labour, which is far bigger, especially the turnout. After all, what could be a bigger vote winner for, for example, the Pakistani population that is 3% of births but 30% of confirmed genetic diseases at birth? (Imagine the tail end effects on that one!)

    Regardless, you have Labour MP Naz Shah, who actually seems like a nice and moderate lady and who holds an important parliamentary role, endorsing the following:

    “Solution for Israel-Palestine Conflict – Relocate Israel into United States”, with the comment: “Problem solved.”

    This is cut and dried ethnic cleansing. But hey, it is of Jews, and those wandering rootless losers can take it, not like the afore-mentioned Bradford Pakistani population...

    She recently followed this up with the even (much?) worse endorsement of the abuse of white girls by Muslim men.

    "Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity".

    Lovely...

    For context, it may be as much as a million cases of abuse by Muslim men. It is certainly something that has occurred country wide.

    ...

    I actually like Naz Shah. She is a palatable public face for her community. Of course, that she is, and that this is why her political career is on a sustained upwards trajectory, is not a great augur for the future of this country.

    Anyway, enough on this, the Jewish population of the UK is a couple of hundred thousand. The Muslim population of the UK grew by more than that last year. Any Brit scared of the Jews is certifiably insane.

    “Jewish population of the UK is a couple of hundred thousand. The Muslim population of the UK grew by more than that last year. Any Brit scared of the Jews is certifiably insane.”

    And yet those Brits would be right in their estimation that criticism of either group would land them in prison. Fear of imprisonment for verbal missteps strikes me as quite sane. Indeed, it would be completely insane of these British gentiles not to fear those whom their state has elevated above them by every legal measure.

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    There is an ever-growing list of groups protected from speech. These include men in dresses. It is disingenous to counter my point with reference to speech codes. Mine was about people being scared of the Jews as opposed to falling foul of pc speech codes.
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  58. @Zumbuddi
    In your world view are all Darkies dumb brutes?
    Were there no kings and queens of stature & learning among the Ethiopiams, or the people who created a center of learning at Timbuktu?

    St Augustine --- he was Black, his mother a Berber-- brutish Darkie?

    The Egyptians who built pyramids --& whose most noteworthy accomplishment was getting Jews to work :') --- dumb Darkies?

    Hell, Moses was probably Egyptian, probably Darkie. Dumb brute? Same for Solomon & maybe David too
    Dumb brutes?

    Exceptions dont disprove the rule. A few hundred worthwile people compared to billions of worthless people dont excuse the worthless.

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  59. Art says:

    Look at Weinstein, the Hollywood wanker – he is a typical antisemitism hunter, dreaming of killing goyim like in his Basterds, or screwing shiksas in real life.

    The Jews are winning that battle over the revelation of sex abusers. Considering the wall to wall presence of Jews in Hollywood, no new Jew names are coming out – only Gentiles. All of the media and Hollywood are clamming up. The Weinstein boys are being offered up – but no others.

    Also every time sex offender Weinstein is mentioned in the media, they now add on the Gentile names: Roger Ailes, Bill O’Reilly, and TRUMP.

    Clever those Jews.

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. No homosexual abusers also.

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  60. anon says: • Disclaimer

    “John Hannah, a senior counselor at the FDD and a former deputy national security adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, counters, “I think the president acts most frequently as an American great power nationalist. . . . He doesn’t appear to have any inclination to have America get involved in far-flung trouble spots.” But Hannah notes, “none of that means that when President Trump does perceive a serious threat to U.S. national interests, he won’t act very aggressively to confront it, as he’s done with both North Korea and Iran.” http://nationalinterest.org/feature/after-the-neocons-finally-trump-22767

    See the doublespeak . See the perverted thinking . See how Hananh segues smoothly by 1st offering some sage observation about Trump’s aversion to conflicts !
    But that is to cover his mental keister full of shit .
    That is to mollify anger.
    That is to discourage critical thinking .That is the same old lying attempts to insert asinine foreign -fealty based advice in the midst of the of a neutral patriotic sentence . What a jerk !

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  61. renfro says:
    @Jean de Peyrelongue
    John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt wrote a book about :THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY.
    In this book, one can discover that a very small minority took the control of the US. This minority has in its hands the Congress, the Government and the Media. This minority has even put in place a system to Watch the Universities and to make sure that no-one dares to oppose Israel's Policy. In fact, the US are now a dictature managed by this minority. The elections are just a show as those elected have to obey that minority .
    Even if that minority is essentially composed of people coming fron the Jewish community, it is not obvious that they represent the Jewish's community.

    Some integrist Christians have joined that minority as they are waiting for the last Judgment and the return of the Messiah. These are even worse than the Jews from from that minority as they are as crazy as the terrorits from Daesh.

    That minority is totally mad and as they are with unlimited ressources, they represent the biggest threat to the world. Only putting the US under chapter 11, might prevent that minority to lead us to Armageddon. But as nobody (China, Russia, Europe, etc..) wants to go through the consequences of the US bankrupt, we are not going to avoid the Apocalypse.

    This is what Jews do. They propagandize even our children.
    And to settle the question of how many Jews are Zionist….find me one Jew in the msm or one Jew in the 1000′s of Jewish publications who doesn’t promote Israel.
    True anti zionist Jews are few and far between….very few.

    Educators and Librarians: You may order “America and the Holocaust” at PBS

    America and the Holocaust: Suggestions for the Classrom

    Themes: The Holocaust, anti-Semitism, U.S. immigration policy, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, World War II

    Complex social and political factors shaped America’s response to the Holocaust, from Kristallnacht in 1938 through the liberation of the death camps in 1945. For a short time, the US had an opportunity to open its doors, but instead erected a “paper wall,” a bureaucratic maze that prevented all but a few Jewish refugees from entering the country. It was not until 1944, that a small band of Treasury Department employees forced the government to respond.

    Before Watching
    Write the following terms on the board:
    anti-Semitism ethnic cleansing
    holocaust refugee
    immigrant quotas
    red tape melting pot

    Tell students that these words are related to the program they are about to watch. Ask them what they think these terms mean, and what they think the film will be about. Assign half the class to listen for these terms as they view the program, to broaden the definitions the class came up with before watching the film.

    Assign the other half of the class to pay attention to the sources of information made available to government officials and the public, and how these were used to influence public opinion.

    Discussion Questions
    What image do you most remember from the film? Why? What makes that image an important visual symbol for the story the film tells?

    How was the film different from what you expected? How did it change or expand your understanding of the terms you discussed before the film? How did it change or expand your understanding of the Holocaust, and of the role of the United States in World War II?

    U.S. government knew about the persecution of European Jews long before the genocide began. What sources of information did the U.S. government have about this persecution and subsequent mass murders? How was this information treated and why? When do you think the government should have become involved in helping the Jews, and what should it have done? Why do you think the government finally decided to set up the War Refugee Board?

    During the Casablanca Conference in January 1943, Roosevelt spoke with the French resident general at Rabat, Morocco, about postwar independence and the Jewish immigrants in North America. Roosevelt argued that

    …the number of Jews engaged in the practice of the professions (law, medicine, etc.) should be definitely limited to the percentage that the Jewish population in North Africa bears to the whole of the North African population…. [T]his plan would further eliminate the specific and understandable complaints which the Germans bore towards the Jews in Germany, namely, that while they represented a small part of the population, over 50 percent of the lawyers, doctors, schoolteachers, college professors, etc., in Germany were Jews.1

    What do you think about Roosevelt’s suggestion? How do his comments reflect the anti-Semitism of the times? How do they help explain his inaction?

    In the preface to the book The Abandonment of the Jews(Pantheon Books, 1984), David Wyman recounts the inaction of the U.S. government and much of the public to the news of Hitler’s Final Solution and asks, “Would the reaction be different today? Would Americans be more sensitive, less self-centered, more willing to make sacrifices, less afraid of differences now than they were then?” What do you think? Consider our current attitudes towards minorities and immigrants in light of the crises in Bosnia and Rwanda.

    Think about how the sources used to inform and/or influence public opinion were different during World War II and the Gulf War. How has the role of the media changed? How has this been a change for the better? For the worse?

    Suggested Activities
    Compare the coverage of local, national, and world news in your local Sunday newspaper. How is the news of trouble in countries where the United States is involved reported differently than in countries where it isn’t? What can students infer from the placement of different articles within the paper? What can they infer from the differences in headlines and the amount of space allotted to different issues? What do they think the newspaper reflects about our society? its values? its interests?

    As a class, list examples of recent hate crimes committed within your state or the country. What happened? Who were the victims? Assign students to choose one example of a hate crime and use newspapers and periodicals to research the circumstances of the crime as well as the public and legal response to it.

    Ask students to interview a recent immigrant to the United States to learn about the immigrants reasons for coming to the United States and the process of immigration. Have students research the U.S. immigration policy for citizens of their subject’s native country prior to their interviews. How has the immigration policy for residents of the native country changed during the past fifty years, and what factors have led to these changes?

    As a class, brainstorm definitions of the American Dream. Then list any associations with the term. Ask students to write an essay in which they explain what the term means to them and why.

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    Gag

    Why do taxpayers & parents tolerate our children being mind-controlled, while we pay for it?

    All politics is local.

    Arm yourself with facts --- www.inconvenienthistory.com
    Then storm School Board meetings.

    Chances are there will be a Jewis gatekeeper in the room or on the Board

    Be prepared. Practice staying calm.
    Anticipate the charge of you'know-what & have a response prepared --- DOWN PAT
    , @Jean de Peyrelongue
    The minority running the US and the western world is much less than the famous 1% having a wealth above one million US$. It is even less than 1% of the "rich" minority.
    Among that that minority, the Jews are a majority. But having said that, having identified the major threat to the World, does not require to hate the Jewish community but to find a way to deprive them from their power.

    Hate towards that community is not the road to peace and actually, it strengthen the community. Their strength has its roots in the Financial system which gave them unlimited resources as it rests on a fiducial money. The only way to unseat that community is a major bankrupt that will break the Financial system and oblige the world to go back to a money based on gold.

    The problem with that is: people and countries might oppose that minority but none are willing to accept the loss of what they have. In doing so, they are supporting the minority and instead of accepting loosing some weight, they are going to loose their life as that minority is driving us to the Apocalypse.
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  62. Issac says:
    @Peter D. Breden
    "Palestine with its wonderful rolling landscapes and venerable old olive trees, – some of them planted by Mary’s own hands, by the Virgin, Mother of Jesus Christ, the Palestinian peasant woman who owned a plot of olive orchard near present Cremisan Convent in Beit Jalla, still bearing Her name"

    Stopped reading there. Author is obviously delusional and untrustworthy as an observer.

    I have to say, I find the overt appeals to Christian Holy Land fairly cringe inducing too. No matter who “wins,” ultimate control over Israel/Palestine, the Christians will lose. They’re roundly hated by the Orthodox and Muslims alike. Only a handful of misfits on either side care enough to protect them and they don’t put much effort into it.

    Incidentally, this is part of what opened my eyes, as a teenager, to the farce that American Christians were an Imperial power over us all. If the Christians were actually powerful, they wouldn’t let their sacred sites and relics be vandalized with regularity, the aftermath being largely unreported. Nor would they countenance the wholesale slaughter of Christians in the region with little fanfare.

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    christians are not about power
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  63. @Tyrion
    'Jewish yoke'. Kooky fantasy Mr Shamir!

    This article is not much more. Just a string of literary devices in a whimsical tone that does little more than open up the skin for the commenters to rush in and create a weeping sore of projected neuroses and strange onanisms in their posts below.

    One minor quibble though, is worth bringing up, for the benefit of your seemingly few functional readers.

    Now in England, there is a terrible witch-hunt for antisemites in the Labour Party. The idea is to destroy Jeremy Corbyn, to return the party to the people of Blair and his Jewish paymaster Mandelson, who said, “I try to undermine Jeremy Corbyn ‘every single day” with their antisemitism allegations. Corbyn is doing everything to cover himself from this side. Good people, strong activists had been expelled for very little reason,
     
    It is not a 'terrible witch hunt'. It was one of many (ineffective) tools used to tried to lower Mr Corbyn's popularity, because politics is nowawadays played through such accusations. I say ineffective, because it did not work, even though had it been about any other ethnic or religious group, bar the native, it would have worked.

    It did help to lower the number of Jews voting for Labour. Jews don't tend to like anti-Semitism and a (Muslim) Labour councillor declaring "Hitler" to be "history's great man" is surely an understandable turn off.

    On the other hand, it raised the Muslim vote for Labour, which is far bigger, especially the turnout. After all, what could be a bigger vote winner for, for example, the Pakistani population that is 3% of births but 30% of confirmed genetic diseases at birth? (Imagine the tail end effects on that one!)

    Regardless, you have Labour MP Naz Shah, who actually seems like a nice and moderate lady and who holds an important parliamentary role, endorsing the following:

    “Solution for Israel-Palestine Conflict – Relocate Israel into United States”, with the comment: “Problem solved.”

    This is cut and dried ethnic cleansing. But hey, it is of Jews, and those wandering rootless losers can take it, not like the afore-mentioned Bradford Pakistani population...

    She recently followed this up with the even (much?) worse endorsement of the abuse of white girls by Muslim men.

    "Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity".

    Lovely...

    For context, it may be as much as a million cases of abuse by Muslim men. It is certainly something that has occurred country wide.

    ...

    I actually like Naz Shah. She is a palatable public face for her community. Of course, that she is, and that this is why her political career is on a sustained upwards trajectory, is not a great augur for the future of this country.

    Anyway, enough on this, the Jewish population of the UK is a couple of hundred thousand. The Muslim population of the UK grew by more than that last year. Any Brit scared of the Jews is certifiably insane.

    It is not a ‘terrible witch hunt’. It was one of many (ineffective) tools used to tried to lower Mr Corbyn’s popularity, because politics is nowawadays played through such accusations.

    Sure. But do you ever ask yourself: Why that particular accusation rather than another? Why? Because Corbyn is pro-Palestinian and has been for a long time. They’re specifically signalling him to back off that issue. They’re doing the same with Trump; after all, why is it called Russia-gate rather than some other -gate? So naturally they would try to attack Corbyn for ‘anti-semitism’ – this is all about Project Israel.

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    Sure. But do you ever ask yourself: Why that particular accusation rather than another? Why? Because Corbyn is pro-Palestinian and has been for a long time. They’re specifically signalling him to back off that issue. They’re doing the same with Trump; after all, why is it called Russia-gate rather than some other -gate? So naturally they would try to attack Corbyn for ‘anti-semitism’ – this is all about Project Israel.
     
    1. It is not that 'particular' an accusation. Other accusations include misogyny, unilateral disarmament, communism, his stance on Venezuela, corruption among unions, his well-heeled upbringing, his disloyalty to his party colleagues etc etc.

    The key being that they need at least an element of truth and they need to be generally considered a bad thing.

    2. How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    Putin has been very fair with Israel. He seems to judge it according to the global standard, as he wants Russia to be judged.

    Obama, on the other hand, tried to hold Israel to the much higher and much more restrictive standard that the resentful left holds all white people, or even whatever they can identify as the white and therefore bad side, in any conflict.

    The idea that Jews acting in Israeli interests would want to harm Trump, push him from Putin and use Obama as a paragon is nuts. They would have to be beyond stupid.

    But then for many of the commenters on this site anti-Semitism seems to consist of identifying whatever they happen to dislike and then somehow believing that the Jews did it.
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  64. @SolontoCroesus
    Exactamundo, Jake; British ergo WASP PhiloSemitism is structural; it's systemic; it's baked in the cake (or biscuit, if you will).

    (I hope you can play hopscotch, because a lot of thoughts are coming to mind, they're connected but it would take either 3000 words or a day's time to create a shorter, crisp narrative. I just want to 'drop the pellets' here.)

    E Michael Jones taught/is teaching me the steps in that development -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4p7A0EtZqg&t=450s
    Barren Metal: British Impiricism vs German Idealism

    Jones's discussion of Adam Smith shatters the foundation of Western/American capitalist adulation of Smith's Wealth of Nations as basis for capitalist economic system.
    In his series of lectures on How Jews Created Capitalism, Jerry Muller relies on Adam Smith to endorse the "Greed is Good" (just like debt) thesis.

    Jones's major argument is that the Reformation in England had NO THEOLOGICAL basis/ foundation whatsoever, it was merely a land-grab: the monarch seized the (extensive) properties of the Catholic church/monastic orders.

    Jones mentions the transition of usurious systems from Medici Florence (in which Jews were relatively small-time participants) to Fuggars to Netherlands (where Jews exiled from Spain became dominant).


    Niall Ferguson's "Ascent of Money" traces the same path, extending it (as does Jones) to the Bank of England, where control of the people's money was taken out of their hands, designed never to be repaid, and gave the king free rein to wage wars at will. That system still prevails.
    (Ferguson was entrusted by the Rothschilds to search their papers and compose a two-volume biography of the Rothschild family.)

    I haven't listened to the entire Jones video & should do, but this bit was really intriguing:
    Jones said that Fichte re-installed logos* in German/Prussian culture, and he did this relying on Benedictine monks and their guiding principle: Ora et Labore: Pray and Work, or Work is Prayer and Prayer is Work, as we were taught.
    Does Arbeit Macht Frei come to mind?

    Sam Shama & the horse he rides in on mentioned Sebastian Haffner's "The Mind of Hitler." Before I was able to acquire that volume, I gained access to Haffner's "Memoir," which he wrote from age 7, in 1914, until 1933, but did not publish. Haffner's son, Oliver Pretzel, published the manuscript. It's chock full of insights; I will focus on this one passage:
    Germany has been defeated; Haffner & his German schoolboy pals are bereft: war had been a game to them, a thrilling game, and suddenly, it was over; their world was shattered.
    Weird things happen; ta dum ta dum ta dum, Rathenau is assassinated -- this is a very big deal -- major event -- for Haffner, for Germans, (and especially for Rabbi Stephen Wise, tho Haffner has no awareness whatsoever of zionism, the involvement of zionists at Versailles, etc.).
    After Rathenau's assassination an intense conflict rages, even in Haffner's 11th grade classroom: Should Germany take the Rathenau (Jewish) path or not? Even among the 11th graders, the conflict frequently comes to violence & bloodletting.

    Here's the passage: Haffner sees a schoolmate doodling a geometric figure on his paper; it's attractive, and Haffner is tempted to copy it himself. He asks his schoolmate, "What is that?" The mate responds, "Don't you know? It's the new symbol of hatred of the Jews!"

    It is, of course, the swastika.

    When I read that I thought it must have been something the son/publisher inserted in the original manuscript; I didn't think the swastika was associated with "hatred of the Jews" until ~May of 1933 when James Waterman Wise, Rabbi Stephen Wise's son, published a really nasty screed, "Swastika," in which the first paragraph identified the design as "symbolizing hatred of Jews."

    BUT -- cycle back to Jones's mention of the influence of the Benedictines in re-establishing logos, and the value of work, and the anti-value of usury, in German culture, in contrast to the opposite value sets in British culture.

    THEN realize that Hitler attended a Benedictine high school, sang in its choir. It is claimed that Hitler inspiration for the swastika at center of the Hakenkreuze was a design still visible in the stonework of his Benedictine high school.

    SO it may be the case that Jews would have perceived the Benedictine affirmation of logos as enshrined by the Catholic and Benedictine-trained Hitler to be the reification of their projected hatred of logos.

    IT IS THE CASE, on no less authority than that of David Engel, USHMM scholar of the Holocaust and professor of that study at New York Univ,, U Penn, TelAviv Univ., that National Socialists DID NOT, repeat DID NOT use antisemitic rhetoric during their campaigns in rise to power, nor did National Socialists use antisemitic rhetoric once having gained power; nor did National Socialists use "exterminationist" rhetoric at any time in their rise or period of rule (contrary to Sam Shama's wet dreams).
    Prof. David Engel states and repeats that the 25 points that Hitler drafted in 1920, that called for certain civil/legal limitations of Jewish power but NOT for any form of violence much less 'extermination' of Jews, was the same program implemented once Hitler became chancellor in 1933. Furthermore, Engel says, even then, that list of demands was implemented incompletely and in scattershot fashion, and not through diktat but after parliamentary consideration, and over a jagged time-frame.

    MY tentative conclusion: That zionist Jews like James Waterman Wise, and Haffner's "schoolmate," perceived (projected) the Swastika to be a symbol of "hatred of Jews" was just that -- a projection of Jewish rejection of logos, and a signal of Jewry's deep antipathy to the German intention to regain sovereignty over its own culture of "pray and work," and of its system of non-usurious finance -- which is exactly what National Socialists did, that enabled it to emerge from the depths of unemployment & debt to economic stability, despite the Jewish declaration of economic war on Germany.

    * Jones's concept of Logos - anti-Logos is best explained by him, here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtgaZ97Kdc

    another interesting concept Jones expands in

    “Benedictines taught the Germans how to work.”

    Then he tells of being in Tanzania, where he noticed a broken water pump. He asked a (governor), “Why is the pump broken?”
    Governor says, “It’s been broken for 30 years; they are all broken.”

    Benedictines had been in Tanzania but left hundreds of years ago.

    Jones claims (part) German ancestry. He says, If Benedictines had left Germany, his people would still be living in mud huts. Benedictines taught Germans that LABOR was the crucial value of an economy, and Benedictines stayed around in Germany to embed that value in the German psyche.

    Now, consider that beginning in ~1900, German-born and German educated Arthur Ruppin tried to teach Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe to work in Palestine. One aliyeh waa so unsuccessful that he had to send them back.
    Ruppin had been sent to Palestine in 1907 to survey Jewish situation; he wrote a lengthy analysis of what he found. Some excerpts:

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    ” . . . a brief description of the Jewish colonies and Jewish agricultural life. The colonies have been founded within the last thirty years, and along two lines: some by young people who came out of Eastern Europe, bringing with them much enthusiasm and industriousness, but little by way of experience or economic resources; others by the programmatic colonization work of Baron Rothschild.

    With few exceptions (e.g., Rehoboth) the first type of colony went to pieces in the first few years, or found itself compelled to place itself under the protection of Baron Rothschild. The colonization work of the Baron has achieved much for Palestine and has created enduring values. enormous sums have, indeed, been swallowed up by it; nor can it be said that the colonies have come up to the expectations with which the founder may have started out. But the fault lies not with the work of the Baron, but with the fact that, when he resolved to undertake Jewish colonization in Palestine, he already found a number of Jewish colonies in a desperate condition, and was compelled, willy-nilly, to begin with these. Most of the mistakes which have been made in the colonization work may be traced back to this situation.

    The first mistake which I must point out was the fact that the persons who were to be transformed into farmers did not know enough about agriculture. They had not been brought into the country according to plan; they had simply come, had installed themselves one way or another as agriculturalists, soon found themselves at the end of their means, and called for help. It is difficult to find among the Jews the right sort of human material for agriculture; there are, indeed, statistics of Russian, Galician and East European Jews who live by agriculture; but there seems to be a wide gap between these statistics and what I have observed personally in East Europe. The Jews who, according to the statistical tables, belong in the class of agriculturalists, are for the most part not farmers, but landowners, who lease out their lands, or agricultural day laborers, or else small cattle-breeders; in any case, they are not the type of farmer which is needed for Palestine. In consequence it appears altogether doubtful whether we shall find, anywhere in the world, Jews whose abilities and training would fit them to become successful farmers in Palestine. It will be necessary to put the land settlers thorough a period of preliminary training in the country itself so that they may win the necessary experience acclimatize themselves, become accustomed to the work, and in general become acquainted with the general conditions obtaining in Palestine.

    The second mistake consisted in the fact that persons who were in desperate need suddenly found themselves, through the munificence of Baron Rothschild, in possession of considerable sums, and could without any effort on their own part obtain all sorts of equipment which other farmers must as a rule acquire slowly, through the years, and by the sweat of the brow. And the old rule still holds, that the man who acquires the means to a livelihood only after much effort, prizes and guards these means, while the man who has these means thrown into his lap will not know how to appreciate them. We therefore find in Palestine a vast difference between German and Jewish colonists in regard to the card which they bestow on their live and other stock. This has nothing to do with inferior ability on the part of the Jews but with the circumstance that the German colonist has created what he possesses by his own labor, and he treats it with more care, foresight and affection. The superior stability of the German on the land, again, is connected with the organic way in which he acquired, and grew with, his possessions; the Jew obtained his as it were overnight.

    The third mistake was the system of administration, which blocked the development of a spirit of independence among the colonists. An agricultural expert was appointed for every group of colonies; his instructions to the colonists were binding, but the risk was carried, formally and legally, by the colonists themselves. A situation like this is impossible in the long run. I can imagine two methods of agricultural colonization. A man may work under the direction of an administrator, but without accepting responsibility. It is also possible for a settler to make his own decisions on his own responsibility. But it is hard for me to imagine a system under which the farmer must bear the responsibility while following the instructions of the administrator. It is for this reason that the Jewish colonist does not feel the same responsibility as the farmer who takes the risk for his own decisions.

    To summarize: early Jewish colonists were unsuccessful because they did not have the habits of agriculture; were too readily provided with funds — i.e. rewarded for failure — thus did not develop habit of working methodically for their needs; and the system of taking taking decisions and responsibility for them was lacking, i.e. risk was ‘socialized’ but reward was individualized, (similar to the banking collapse in 2008).

    Today, militarism is the means by which Israel has resolved these “three mistakes” that Ruppin identified — see, for example, https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/06/israel-startup-nation-the-good-the-great-and-the-one-fatal-flaw/
    –>Every young Jewish person in Israel must serve in military;
    –> Military experience is source for group-building and skills acquisition that evolves into entrepreneurship
    —>Lots of start-ups (but Israeli startups notably are short-lived; they are traded, not built up over long years)
    —> Lots of hype among young entrepreneurs, but frequently does not match actual production — over promise, under perform
    —> But failure is not feared so risky behavior is prevalent (one suspects, because there’s always a bail-out, like Rothschilds in 1907, or Uncle Sam, today)

    At about the same time as Ruppin was “producing Hebrew culture in Palestine,” USSR offered Jews land in Biro-Bidjan. Jewish run agencies were created to survey the area, to finance settlement, to get support from USSR and other states, but the E European migrants to the land complained, they ‘relapsed’ to petty trading, the women prostituted themselves because they could not make a go of settling the land — they did not “know how to work.”

    Jewish Telegraph Agency indexes over 460 articles, between 1928 and 2011, dealing with settlement of East European Jews in Biro-Bidjan. Some examples:

    Settlers in Bureya Disappointed, Prefer Charges Against Ozet, Sponsor

    October 18, 1928

    https://www.jta.org/1928/10/18/archive/settlers-in-bureya-disappointed-prefer-charges-against-ozet-sponsor

    https://www.jta.org/page/47?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50

    https://www.jta.org/page/6?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50

    https://www.jta.org/page/9?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50

    https://www.jta.org/page/12?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50

    https://www.jta.org/page/15?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50

    https://www.jta.org/page/18?sp%5Bforce%5D=1&sp%5Bf%5D=1900-01-01&sp%5Bt%5D=2017-01-01&orderby=date&order=desc&s=biro-bidjan&limit=50

    The zionist campaign that keeps USA in thrall to Israeli-zionist demands and that censors honest & objective exploration of Jewish patterns and preferences; the US & others spinelessness & sympathies that enables and abets this counterproductive behavior, are counterproductive above all to the progress of the Jewish people, not to mention how many other lives are being destroyed by these ideological psychopathologies.

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  65. Zumbuddi says:
    @renfro
    This is what Jews do. They propagandize even our children.
    And to settle the question of how many Jews are Zionist....find me one Jew in the msm or one Jew in the 1000's of Jewish publications who doesn't promote Israel.
    True anti zionist Jews are few and far between....very few.

    Educators and Librarians: You may order "America and the Holocaust" at PBS

    America and the Holocaust: Suggestions for the Classrom

    Themes: The Holocaust, anti-Semitism, U.S. immigration policy, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, World War II

    Complex social and political factors shaped America's response to the Holocaust, from Kristallnacht in 1938 through the liberation of the death camps in 1945. For a short time, the US had an opportunity to open its doors, but instead erected a "paper wall," a bureaucratic maze that prevented all but a few Jewish refugees from entering the country. It was not until 1944, that a small band of Treasury Department employees forced the government to respond.

    Before Watching
    Write the following terms on the board:
    anti-Semitism ethnic cleansing
    holocaust refugee
    immigrant quotas
    red tape melting pot

    Tell students that these words are related to the program they are about to watch. Ask them what they think these terms mean, and what they think the film will be about. Assign half the class to listen for these terms as they view the program, to broaden the definitions the class came up with before watching the film.

    Assign the other half of the class to pay attention to the sources of information made available to government officials and the public, and how these were used to influence public opinion.

    Discussion Questions
    What image do you most remember from the film? Why? What makes that image an important visual symbol for the story the film tells?

    How was the film different from what you expected? How did it change or expand your understanding of the terms you discussed before the film? How did it change or expand your understanding of the Holocaust, and of the role of the United States in World War II?

    U.S. government knew about the persecution of European Jews long before the genocide began. What sources of information did the U.S. government have about this persecution and subsequent mass murders? How was this information treated and why? When do you think the government should have become involved in helping the Jews, and what should it have done? Why do you think the government finally decided to set up the War Refugee Board?

    During the Casablanca Conference in January 1943, Roosevelt spoke with the French resident general at Rabat, Morocco, about postwar independence and the Jewish immigrants in North America. Roosevelt argued that

    ...the number of Jews engaged in the practice of the professions (law, medicine, etc.) should be definitely limited to the percentage that the Jewish population in North Africa bears to the whole of the North African population.... [T]his plan would further eliminate the specific and understandable complaints which the Germans bore towards the Jews in Germany, namely, that while they represented a small part of the population, over 50 percent of the lawyers, doctors, schoolteachers, college professors, etc., in Germany were Jews.1

    What do you think about Roosevelt's suggestion? How do his comments reflect the anti-Semitism of the times? How do they help explain his inaction?

    In the preface to the book The Abandonment of the Jews(Pantheon Books, 1984), David Wyman recounts the inaction of the U.S. government and much of the public to the news of Hitler's Final Solution and asks, "Would the reaction be different today? Would Americans be more sensitive, less self-centered, more willing to make sacrifices, less afraid of differences now than they were then?" What do you think? Consider our current attitudes towards minorities and immigrants in light of the crises in Bosnia and Rwanda.

    Think about how the sources used to inform and/or influence public opinion were different during World War II and the Gulf War. How has the role of the media changed? How has this been a change for the better? For the worse?

    Suggested Activities
    Compare the coverage of local, national, and world news in your local Sunday newspaper. How is the news of trouble in countries where the United States is involved reported differently than in countries where it isn't? What can students infer from the placement of different articles within the paper? What can they infer from the differences in headlines and the amount of space allotted to different issues? What do they think the newspaper reflects about our society? its values? its interests?

    As a class, list examples of recent hate crimes committed within your state or the country. What happened? Who were the victims? Assign students to choose one example of a hate crime and use newspapers and periodicals to research the circumstances of the crime as well as the public and legal response to it.

    Ask students to interview a recent immigrant to the United States to learn about the immigrants reasons for coming to the United States and the process of immigration. Have students research the U.S. immigration policy for citizens of their subject's native country prior to their interviews. How has the immigration policy for residents of the native country changed during the past fifty years, and what factors have led to these changes?

    As a class, brainstorm definitions of the American Dream. Then list any associations with the term. Ask students to write an essay in which they explain what the term means to them and why.

    Gag

    Why do taxpayers & parents tolerate our children being mind-controlled, while we pay for it?

    All politics is local.

    Arm yourself with facts — http://www.inconvenienthistory.com
    Then storm School Board meetings.

    Chances are there will be a Jewis gatekeeper in the room or on the Board

    Be prepared. Practice staying calm.
    Anticipate the charge of you’know-what & have a response prepared — DOWN PAT

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  66. Ash says:
    @anon
    Historian Tony Judt called it “outrageous,” while representatives of the Israeli Labor party called for caution, warning that the conscription of American troops under the Israeli flag might empower the most hawkish elements in that country, and provoke anti-Semitism in the U.S. In National Review, editor Rich Lowry condemned these “voices of hesitation and appeasement,” warning that he “smelled some, er, Jewish self-hatred” on the wind.




    Writing in the New York Sun, Commentary editor Norman Podhoretz described the plan as “bold, candid, and Churchillian,” and urged President Bush to consider adopting it before “Islamo-fascist appeasers, isolationists, and anti-Semites” could rally their opposition. “These nativists will raise once again the tired old cry of ‘dual loyalty’, impugning our patriotism,” warned Podhoretz.




    Christian Right leaders quickly got behind the proposal. Televangelist Pat Robertson described the plan as “the single best way to assure that the blessing of Almighty GOD will descend upon this country,” and offered the warning that “if we reject this opportunity to stand with God’s own people, He will smite us once again—as he smote the sodomites, drunken idolaters and welfare queens of New Orleans.”



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  67. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Issac
    I have to say, I find the overt appeals to Christian Holy Land fairly cringe inducing too. No matter who "wins," ultimate control over Israel/Palestine, the Christians will lose. They're roundly hated by the Orthodox and Muslims alike. Only a handful of misfits on either side care enough to protect them and they don't put much effort into it.

    Incidentally, this is part of what opened my eyes, as a teenager, to the farce that American Christians were an Imperial power over us all. If the Christians were actually powerful, they wouldn't let their sacred sites and relics be vandalized with regularity, the aftermath being largely unreported. Nor would they countenance the wholesale slaughter of Christians in the region with little fanfare.

    christians are not about power

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  68. Che Guava says:
    @anonymous

    Flying a group of Moslem invaders
     

    to avoiding it to going to fake refugees, a.k.a invaders of other places.
     
    So I am curious, what does a man (?) from the godless land of perversion have against "Moslems"? Unless of course you are Korean, in which case, what does a man (?) from the godless land of perversion and corruption have against "Moslems"? Did we invade your decadent subservient-to-white-man lands?

    Anyway, fellows like you are perfect for the Christian church. From the godless to spiritual ciphers. Quite the promotion. LOL!


    not to mentioning
    who are to supporting
    not to liking
     
    That grammar is amusing reading for a while, but gets annoying fast. Take some lessons man.

    Why are you to posting as Anonymous? It is a disease on this site, you are likely Talha (tra-la-la). I may be wrong.

    If you are not wanting me to make such mistakes, post with your usual u-name.

    In this

    godless land of perversion

    , it is not godless, on many dimensions.

    I have spent time overseas, seeing the harm from Moslems.

    It is their nature, it is their character.

    In S-E Asia, many years ago, the adult men would just muttering insults to anyone else. … but never hijabs, and because I was there as a child, enjoyed time in Moslem villages with school-friends.

    That has all changed now, probably mainly thanks to Saudi money.

    Later time in western countries, Islam and many Moslems are clearly evil.

    They are to constantly trying to make toe-holds in Japan and Korea, long may they fail.

    … and yes, I am using the spelling ‘Moslem’ precisely to irritating people like you.

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  69. @Zumbuddi
    In your world view are all Darkies dumb brutes?
    Were there no kings and queens of stature & learning among the Ethiopiams, or the people who created a center of learning at Timbuktu?

    St Augustine --- he was Black, his mother a Berber-- brutish Darkie?

    The Egyptians who built pyramids --& whose most noteworthy accomplishment was getting Jews to work :') --- dumb Darkies?

    Hell, Moses was probably Egyptian, probably Darkie. Dumb brute? Same for Solomon & maybe David too
    Dumb brutes?

    In your world view are all Darkies dumb brutes?

    Not really. It doesn’t matter what blacks once were. Chanda Chisala convinced me that the future will belong to the Negroes.

    Why? Negroes got ‘big man’ mentality and love to hump everyone. This will boost black IQ sky-high in the future, esp in Nigeria. Unlike non-black geeks who don’t know how to approach womenfolk, high-IQ blacks are like other jive-ass blacks and go after tons of women. So, smart Nigerians will use their wealth to shamelessly get harems and hump tons of women. So, smart black genes will spread.
    Never mind brain drain. This will be Head Spread.

    And then, Negroes will not only have advantage with muscle and genitalia but with brains. They will not only be beating up non-blacks and humping all their womenfolk but using the intellect like a a million funky Einsteins.
    Soon, blacks will be making flying pyramids that will colonize Mars and other planets and then the entire galaxy. It won’t be just a black planet but a black galaxy, to be renamed the Chocolate Milky Way Galaxy. Blacks will become like the monolith in 2001 and take over the entire cosmos.

    A frightening future indeed for non-black folks.

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    Priss, come on man. Your fear of black planet is a little extreme, you have to admit!
    , @helena
    A couple can be mixed-race but their grandchildren will likely be 75% of one of the races.
    , @Alden
    Press,

    Keep your homosexual domination and submission fantasies to yourself. The way you describe them, you must not have ever spoken or inter acted with a black person.

    If they are so strong and macho, why are so many of them in prison and jail awaiting trial? Many White men and almost all of the women and Hispanic cops who arrest them are a lot smaller that the black men who submit to being handcuffed by a 5'4 woman and a 5'6 Hispanic man
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  70. Anon-og says:
    @iThink
    Gentile whites in the west are completely neutered by Jews thanks to the latter's total control of the media, academia, the judiciary and all our financial institutions. But Jews are greedy and they are once again getting ahead of themselves. The mass importation of non-whites that they have engineered for the west will eventually bite them in the rear. Unlike gentile whites, the Muslims, Chinese, Indians, Mexicans, Africans do not have a Nazi history with Jews and therefore will not be easily guilt trip into loyalty to Jews.

    The Muslims know through their own history that the Jews are not to be trusted. The Chinese are far too practical minded and not politically ambitious enough to care about the Jews and their liberal ideology(except those educated at Ivy League law schools who've been force fed the Kool-aid, it's a good thing the Jews limit their enrollment at the Ivies), the Mexicans and Africans simply consider all Jews "white" and distrust them just the same.

    The only group that makes for good puppets for the Jews are the Indians, who now make up some of the most vocal anti-Trumpers and are drinking the liberal Kool-aid by the buckets. That's why the Jews in SV, Wall Street, DNC, the media and academia are busy propping up Indians as the new CEOs, politicians, Dean of colleges etc. They are dark skin enough to fit the diversity profile, smarter than the blacks but not smart enough to see through the liberal hypocrisy, meek like the East Asians, worship all things white and don't know/care about the difference between Jews and gentiles. Indians like to think of themselves as white. They love to crow about their "Aryan" roots and how they are actually classified as "Caucasians". What's more, there are 1.3 billion of them while the Jewish population is dwindling in the West. Look for George Soros' Open Societies to bring in millions more Indians to the West and continue to prop them up. They make for good Jew puppets.

    Thought provoking comment!

    The only group that makes for good puppets for the Jews are the Indians

    The irony here being that it was the Brits who colonized the Indian mind.

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  71. Anon-og says:
    @Priss Factor
    In your world view are all Darkies dumb brutes?

    Not really. It doesn't matter what blacks once were. Chanda Chisala convinced me that the future will belong to the Negroes.

    Why? Negroes got 'big man' mentality and love to hump everyone. This will boost black IQ sky-high in the future, esp in Nigeria. Unlike non-black geeks who don't know how to approach womenfolk, high-IQ blacks are like other jive-ass blacks and go after tons of women. So, smart Nigerians will use their wealth to shamelessly get harems and hump tons of women. So, smart black genes will spread.
    Never mind brain drain. This will be Head Spread.

    And then, Negroes will not only have advantage with muscle and genitalia but with brains. They will not only be beating up non-blacks and humping all their womenfolk but using the intellect like a a million funky Einsteins.
    Soon, blacks will be making flying pyramids that will colonize Mars and other planets and then the entire galaxy. It won't be just a black planet but a black galaxy, to be renamed the Chocolate Milky Way Galaxy. Blacks will become like the monolith in 2001 and take over the entire cosmos.

    A frightening future indeed for non-black folks.

    Priss, come on man. Your fear of black planet is a little extreme, you have to admit!

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    Who's talking about the planet? I'm talking of flying pyramids taking over the entire galaxy.

    Ho-Tep Movement already has a grand plan to turn the sun black too.
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  72. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Che Guava
    A lot of your money is going to direct subsidies of Israel.

    It is repetitive to saying it, but about 4,000 million US$ a year, not to mentioning the money from collection plates from heretical 'evangelical' churches who are to supporting the novel falsehood (heresy) of 'Judaeo-Christian'.

    Meanwhile, the most ancient of middle-eastesn Christian communities, including in Palestine, are forced out by the Israel tail that is to wagging the USA dog.

    Pathetic.

    Also, am not to liking Pope Francesco at all. Flying a group of Moslem invaders on his Papal aeroplane to dump them on the Italian government, one can be sure he is not to hosting them in the Vatican.

    I am not as regular a church-goer as I should be, at least in Japan, it is not crazy. Also, Korean Lutheran churches are not insane, my Korean is not good enough, but some are also holding services in Japanese and in Englsh. They are not heretical (unless one is to considering basic Lutheranism to be the heresy, but as Roman Catholic scholars are now admitting, no heretic.

    From my reading, heresy is the general trend in Lutheran congregations of now in the USA and Germany.

    ... but I am marking my offering when at a Catholic church 'only for church maintenance or domestic use', to avoiding it to going to fake refugees, a.k.a invaders of other places.

    I really like your some of your comments, what can one do with you?!? So..

    - our wonderful Pope. What about this: http://marymagdalen.blogspot.com? Father Ray Blake writes beautifully, his faith is luminous. Check out his post on why he didn’t sign the filial correction.
    - Luther. Heretic. No heresies from you please, yuck, yuck. Stick to Catholic Church. If need be, rest assured, Catechism is clear that embracing invaders is not mandated. But always Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita aeterna! Lest you end a deathbed convert like Wilde. From his “Rome Unvisited”:

    And here I set my face towards home,
    For all my pilgrimage is done,
    Although, methinks, yon blood-red sun,
    Marshals the way to holy Rome.

    -

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    Appreciated reply. As always, have to be asking, why as 'Anon'?

    I am comprehending the Latin.

    Repliies to me lately are always seem to be from 'Anon', or variation on that. I am never to doing it. Also not stupid, having experience as admin. on a site full of trolls, can seeing that it is not usually the same person.

    I have good experiences in diocesal and parish churches here, but am not liking Pope Francis.

    Have my own theory about him. His stupid actions and behaviour now are from guilt. He never stood against the worst of Operation Condor, in or out of Argentina, so he is now over-compensating.

    That may be too kind a diagnosis, he is actually seeming to be worse even than that, a rabid self-publicist and panderer to the mass media.
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  73. @Anon-og
    Priss, come on man. Your fear of black planet is a little extreme, you have to admit!

    Who’s talking about the planet? I’m talking of flying pyramids taking over the entire galaxy.

    Ho-Tep Movement already has a grand plan to turn the sun black too.

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  74. Realist says:

    The charge of antisemitism is the same as the charge racism. It is use to curtail discussion.

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  75. Incitatus says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Exactamundo, Jake; British ergo WASP PhiloSemitism is structural; it's systemic; it's baked in the cake (or biscuit, if you will).

    (I hope you can play hopscotch, because a lot of thoughts are coming to mind, they're connected but it would take either 3000 words or a day's time to create a shorter, crisp narrative. I just want to 'drop the pellets' here.)

    E Michael Jones taught/is teaching me the steps in that development -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4p7A0EtZqg&t=450s
    Barren Metal: British Impiricism vs German Idealism

    Jones's discussion of Adam Smith shatters the foundation of Western/American capitalist adulation of Smith's Wealth of Nations as basis for capitalist economic system.
    In his series of lectures on How Jews Created Capitalism, Jerry Muller relies on Adam Smith to endorse the "Greed is Good" (just like debt) thesis.

    Jones's major argument is that the Reformation in England had NO THEOLOGICAL basis/ foundation whatsoever, it was merely a land-grab: the monarch seized the (extensive) properties of the Catholic church/monastic orders.

    Jones mentions the transition of usurious systems from Medici Florence (in which Jews were relatively small-time participants) to Fuggars to Netherlands (where Jews exiled from Spain became dominant).


    Niall Ferguson's "Ascent of Money" traces the same path, extending it (as does Jones) to the Bank of England, where control of the people's money was taken out of their hands, designed never to be repaid, and gave the king free rein to wage wars at will. That system still prevails.
    (Ferguson was entrusted by the Rothschilds to search their papers and compose a two-volume biography of the Rothschild family.)

    I haven't listened to the entire Jones video & should do, but this bit was really intriguing:
    Jones said that Fichte re-installed logos* in German/Prussian culture, and he did this relying on Benedictine monks and their guiding principle: Ora et Labore: Pray and Work, or Work is Prayer and Prayer is Work, as we were taught.
    Does Arbeit Macht Frei come to mind?

    Sam Shama & the horse he rides in on mentioned Sebastian Haffner's "The Mind of Hitler." Before I was able to acquire that volume, I gained access to Haffner's "Memoir," which he wrote from age 7, in 1914, until 1933, but did not publish. Haffner's son, Oliver Pretzel, published the manuscript. It's chock full of insights; I will focus on this one passage:
    Germany has been defeated; Haffner & his German schoolboy pals are bereft: war had been a game to them, a thrilling game, and suddenly, it was over; their world was shattered.
    Weird things happen; ta dum ta dum ta dum, Rathenau is assassinated -- this is a very big deal -- major event -- for Haffner, for Germans, (and especially for Rabbi Stephen Wise, tho Haffner has no awareness whatsoever of zionism, the involvement of zionists at Versailles, etc.).
    After Rathenau's assassination an intense conflict rages, even in Haffner's 11th grade classroom: Should Germany take the Rathenau (Jewish) path or not? Even among the 11th graders, the conflict frequently comes to violence & bloodletting.

    Here's the passage: Haffner sees a schoolmate doodling a geometric figure on his paper; it's attractive, and Haffner is tempted to copy it himself. He asks his schoolmate, "What is that?" The mate responds, "Don't you know? It's the new symbol of hatred of the Jews!"

    It is, of course, the swastika.

    When I read that I thought it must have been something the son/publisher inserted in the original manuscript; I didn't think the swastika was associated with "hatred of the Jews" until ~May of 1933 when James Waterman Wise, Rabbi Stephen Wise's son, published a really nasty screed, "Swastika," in which the first paragraph identified the design as "symbolizing hatred of Jews."

    BUT -- cycle back to Jones's mention of the influence of the Benedictines in re-establishing logos, and the value of work, and the anti-value of usury, in German culture, in contrast to the opposite value sets in British culture.

    THEN realize that Hitler attended a Benedictine high school, sang in its choir. It is claimed that Hitler inspiration for the swastika at center of the Hakenkreuze was a design still visible in the stonework of his Benedictine high school.

    SO it may be the case that Jews would have perceived the Benedictine affirmation of logos as enshrined by the Catholic and Benedictine-trained Hitler to be the reification of their projected hatred of logos.

    IT IS THE CASE, on no less authority than that of David Engel, USHMM scholar of the Holocaust and professor of that study at New York Univ,, U Penn, TelAviv Univ., that National Socialists DID NOT, repeat DID NOT use antisemitic rhetoric during their campaigns in rise to power, nor did National Socialists use antisemitic rhetoric once having gained power; nor did National Socialists use "exterminationist" rhetoric at any time in their rise or period of rule (contrary to Sam Shama's wet dreams).
    Prof. David Engel states and repeats that the 25 points that Hitler drafted in 1920, that called for certain civil/legal limitations of Jewish power but NOT for any form of violence much less 'extermination' of Jews, was the same program implemented once Hitler became chancellor in 1933. Furthermore, Engel says, even then, that list of demands was implemented incompletely and in scattershot fashion, and not through diktat but after parliamentary consideration, and over a jagged time-frame.

    MY tentative conclusion: That zionist Jews like James Waterman Wise, and Haffner's "schoolmate," perceived (projected) the Swastika to be a symbol of "hatred of Jews" was just that -- a projection of Jewish rejection of logos, and a signal of Jewry's deep antipathy to the German intention to regain sovereignty over its own culture of "pray and work," and of its system of non-usurious finance -- which is exactly what National Socialists did, that enabled it to emerge from the depths of unemployment & debt to economic stability, despite the Jewish declaration of economic war on Germany.

    * Jones's concept of Logos - anti-Logos is best explained by him, here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtgaZ97Kdc

    “I didn’t think the swastika was associated with “hatred of the Jews” until ~May of 1933 when James Waterman Wise, Rabbi Stephen Wise’s son, published a really nasty screed, “Swastika,” in which the first paragraph identified the design as “symbolizing hatred of Jews.”

    Not very good with dates S2C?

    “Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism… How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist!”
    -Adolf Hitler “Why We Are Anti-Semites,” 15 Aug 1920 Hofbräuhaus speech

    Let’s see. 1933 – 1920 = 13 years? Dolf’s “hatred of the Jews” seems well before the Wise’s “really nasty screed” in ‘33.

    “National Socialists DID NOT, repeat DID NOT use antisemitic rhetoric during their campaigns in rise to power, nor did National Socialists use antisemitic rhetoric once having gained power; nor did National Socialists use “exterminationist” rhetoric at any time in their rise or period of rule (contrary to Sam Shama’s wet dreams).”

    Was Hitler a National Socialist

    “Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord’s work.”

    “Was there any shady undertaking, any form of foulness, especially in cultural life, in which at least one Jew did not participate? On putting the probing knife carefully to that kind of abscess one immediately discovered, like a maggot in a putrescent body, a little Jew who was often blinded by the sudden light.”

    “Was there any excrement, any shamelessness in any form, above all in cultural life, in which at least one Jew would not have been involved? As soon as one even carefully cut into such an abscess, one found, like maggots in a decaying body, often blinded by the sudden light, a kike.”

    -Adolf Hitler ‘Mein Kampf’ Chapter 3 Volume One 1925

    Antisemitic? Of course not. Sentiments of Dolf’s comity and benevolence. Yes, eight years later Wise must have suffered from “a projection of Jewish rejection of logos, and a signal of Jewry’s deep antipathy to the German intention to regain sovereignty over its own culture of “pray and work…

    Spending too much time with Wally and the peacock S2C?

    Listen to your grandchildren. Your words “pathetic”, “inconvenient realities” and “obsessed” come readily to mind.

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    Incitatus, in a desperate state of panic, you said:
    "Spending too much time with Wally and the peacock S2C?"

    Then of course, I guess the USSR 'exterminated' us since Kruschev said:
    "We will bury you".

    Here's my challenge to you and all irrational, anti science Zionists:

    Give us your physical proof of the alleged '6M Jews, 5M others & gas chambers'.

    Remember, we're talking about an alleged 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    BTW, here's just a few of the countless fake 'holocaust' photos to feast over:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11427
    Only liars use fakes.
    debate us here: www.forum.codoh.com if you're not afraid.

    , @SolontoCroesus

    kike
     
    Hey -- Hitler wrote in English!
    Who knew?
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  76. anarchyst says:
    @Che Guava
    A lot of your money is going to direct subsidies of Israel.

    It is repetitive to saying it, but about 4,000 million US$ a year, not to mentioning the money from collection plates from heretical 'evangelical' churches who are to supporting the novel falsehood (heresy) of 'Judaeo-Christian'.

    Meanwhile, the most ancient of middle-eastesn Christian communities, including in Palestine, are forced out by the Israel tail that is to wagging the USA dog.

    Pathetic.

    Also, am not to liking Pope Francesco at all. Flying a group of Moslem invaders on his Papal aeroplane to dump them on the Italian government, one can be sure he is not to hosting them in the Vatican.

    I am not as regular a church-goer as I should be, at least in Japan, it is not crazy. Also, Korean Lutheran churches are not insane, my Korean is not good enough, but some are also holding services in Japanese and in Englsh. They are not heretical (unless one is to considering basic Lutheranism to be the heresy, but as Roman Catholic scholars are now admitting, no heretic.

    From my reading, heresy is the general trend in Lutheran congregations of now in the USA and Germany.

    ... but I am marking my offering when at a Catholic church 'only for church maintenance or domestic use', to avoiding it to going to fake refugees, a.k.a invaders of other places.

    The “beginning of the end” of Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants.
    Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their “dirty work” for them…
    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Cardinal Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize celebration of pre-Vatican II principles. Conservative pre-Vatican II Catholicism still exists with SSPX and other Catholic societies.

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    Thanks. I am knowimg some of it, and am interested in SSPX, I was looking into it because of living near their Tokyo HQ, it is not a church, but an administration centre.

    They are very rarely to holding the Missa at other places.

    As saying in an earlier post, my closest Catholic friend is a Marian cult fanatic, and says that without the vernacular form, nobody would understand, but then is admitting that the vernacular Missa is full of archaic lamguage.

    I prefer the Latin Rite, still the standard at my S-E Asia middle-high school, many years after V II.

    Still, last time I was to escaping from Tokyo, a long visit to Niigata cathedral, a modest building, but very graceful, great objects of devotion. Not the first time to have visited the place.

    Also. was assuming the random old man I met was the priest, addresed as such, embarrassed, he was not, but a very kind person.

    Nobody will reading this comment!

    So I will throwing in comments.

    1. Anglican and Episcopalian (the same thing) priests are far more inclined to pederasty than Catholic priests.

    2. They are more integrated with the gay scene, so are having no such crit. as Catholic clergy.

    Even though they are allowed to marry. Many times, in Anglican/Episcopalian it is a marrage of homosexuals,

    Just look at the woman 'priests' and 'bishops'.

    The only real interest for most of the women is in the vestments and the better the chances for munching muff that the vestments vest.

    Many of the men are equivalent, Welby may not quite fitting my schema, but he Is sure to loving to camp it up in his Archbishop's vestments.

    If you are looking at his Twit feed, there are many examples where he, in his vestments. is smiling over tragic news. His photo-avatar is always having an idiot grin, like Anthony Blair in press photos.

    My opinion is that Blair and Welby are, in some way, birds of a feather
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  77. Well, for a start, the uni’s and colleges are divesting themselves of Israeli assets and investments over the Pali-issue. How did THAT happen?

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  78. uslabor says:
    @utu
    The only way out of it is to desensitize people to the antisemitism charge.

    I am afraid it will get worse before it gets better if at all.

    I was called an anti-Semite by a local Colorado Springs’ Rabbi when I dared to respond to something he published in The Colorado Springs Gazette Telegraph.

    I’m not bothered, you might say I’m desensitized to the charge. I think the term anti-Semite is used so often it means nothing now, or very little at best.

    I think I’ll teach my parrot to say something like “I think Israelis should quit killing Palestinians, especially the children” so she, too, can know the shame of being an anti-Semite. Can a hook bill be desensitized?

    For her sake, I hope so.

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  79. uslabor says:
    @jilles dykstra
    There is no worldwide group that gets so much attention as jews.
    That jews have power far more than their numbers suggest, who doubts it ?
    80% of the world's media are said to be in jewish hands.
    If not in jewish hands, non commercial media, many are led by jews, such as BBC.
    If not led by jews, many journalists and presentators are jewish, also in the Netherlands.
    And so criticism of jews is antisemitism, and antisemitism is worse than murdering children, antisemitism leads to gas chambers.
    If anything shows that not all jews are nice people it is Israel, from a pr point of view Israel was a big mistake.
    A mistake so big that Israel's only ally is the USA, a USA where jewish influence may disappear at any moment.
    What I'm unable to understand is that jews cannot see that they are living very dangerously.
    From their history and culture I can explain this dangerous living, but why a people on average with 10 points higher on IQ tests go on like this, this is a mystery to me.

    “That jews have power far more than their numbers suggest, who doubts it ?
    80% of the world’s media are said to be in jewish hands.”

    How did they achieve that power? Anybody?

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    They bought it. With other people's wealth.

    Wasn't it Einstein. That very smart Jewish man - who said Compound interest is the greatest force on earth
    , @geokat62

    How did they achieve that power? Anybody?
     
    Here is one plausible explanation:

    [Prof. Kevin] MacDonald is best known for his trilogy that analyzes Judaism and Jewish culture from the perspective of evolutionary psychology, comprising A People That Shall Dwell Alone (1994), Separation and Its Discontents (1998), and The Culture of Critique (1998). He proposes that Judaism is a group evolutionary strategy to enhance the ability of Jews to out-compete non-Jews for resources...

    MacDonald's most controversial claim is that a suite of traits which he attributes to Jews, including higher-than-average verbal intelligence and ethnocentricism, have culturally evolved to enhance the ability of Jews to out-compete non-Jews for resources. MacDonald believes this advantage has been used by a number of Jews to advance Jewish group interests and end potential antisemitism by either deliberately or inadvertently undermining the power of the European-derived Christian majorities in the Western world.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald
     

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  80. Zumbuddi says:
    @uslabor
    "That jews have power far more than their numbers suggest, who doubts it ?
    80% of the world’s media are said to be in jewish hands."

    How did they achieve that power? Anybody?

    They bought it. With other people’s wealth.

    Wasn’t it Einstein. That very smart Jewish man – who said Compound interest is the greatest force on earth

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  81. Wally says: • Website
    @Incitatus

    “I didn’t think the swastika was associated with “hatred of the Jews” until ~May of 1933 when James Waterman Wise, Rabbi Stephen Wise’s son, published a really nasty screed, “Swastika,” in which the first paragraph identified the design as “symbolizing hatred of Jews.”
     
    Not very good with dates S2C?

    “Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism… How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist!”
    -Adolf Hitler "Why We Are Anti-Semites," 15 Aug 1920 Hofbräuhaus speech
     
    Let’s see. 1933 - 1920 = 13 years? Dolf’s “hatred of the Jews” seems well before the Wise’s “really nasty screed” in ‘33.

    “National Socialists DID NOT, repeat DID NOT use antisemitic rhetoric during their campaigns in rise to power, nor did National Socialists use antisemitic rhetoric once having gained power; nor did National Socialists use “exterminationist” rhetoric at any time in their rise or period of rule (contrary to Sam Shama’s wet dreams).”
     
    Was Hitler a National Socialist

    “Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's work.”

    “Was there any shady undertaking, any form of foulness, especially in cultural life, in which at least one Jew did not participate? On putting the probing knife carefully to that kind of abscess one immediately discovered, like a maggot in a putrescent body, a little Jew who was often blinded by the sudden light.”

    “Was there any excrement, any shamelessness in any form, above all in cultural life, in which at least one Jew would not have been involved? As soon as one even carefully cut into such an abscess, one found, like maggots in a decaying body, often blinded by the sudden light, a kike.”

    -Adolf Hitler ‘Mein Kampf’ Chapter 3 Volume One 1925
     
    Antisemitic? Of course not. Sentiments of Dolf’s comity and benevolence. Yes, eight years later Wise must have suffered from “a projection of Jewish rejection of logos, and a signal of Jewry’s deep antipathy to the German intention to regain sovereignty over its own culture of “pray and work...

    Spending too much time with Wally and the peacock S2C?

    Listen to your grandchildren. Your words “pathetic”, “inconvenient realities” and “obsessed” come readily to mind.

    Incitatus, in a desperate state of panic, you said:
    “Spending too much time with Wally and the peacock S2C?”

    Then of course, I guess the USSR ‘exterminated’ us since Kruschev said:
    We will bury you“.

    Here’s my challenge to you and all irrational, anti science Zionists:

    Give us your physical proof of the alleged ’6M Jews, 5M others & gas chambers’.

    Remember, we’re talking about an alleged 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    BTW, here’s just a few of the countless fake ‘holocaust’ photos to feast over:

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11427

    Only liars use fakes.
    debate us here: http://www.forum.codoh.com if you’re not afraid.

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    Ah, Wally, you are brave.

    My disbelief was to start after reading Jerzy Koczinsky's Painted Bird. Sure, treatment of Red Army soldiers is seeming accurate. Most of the rest a fantasy.

    Also, Slaughterhouse 5 by Vonnegut, he was there in Dresden as a P.O.W.at the time of the fire-bombing, but some people are always to rubbish that part of his novel.

    WTF, HE WAS THERE, DIRECT EXPERIENCE.

    Later than that, fools are denying the figures for deaths, collected by the German government, as meticulously as they were able, given so many incinerated in shelters basements, above ground. Vonnegut (much respected, appreciated, and RIP or Heaven to him) made an honest estimate. It is close to that of the German govt. at the time.

    In between, was living, for study in a 'western country', at the time, the pulp
    tsanslations of Israeli fake opression porn.

    The genre is even having a name, I am forgetting it, but it is clearly a lie.

    And aJl of tihose novels pretend -to present a truth, but are actualtually having a diisclaimer in small print 'this is fiction'.

    Returning to Japan, yearr ago, my suburban video barn was to have many Jewish made and inpired viovence.porn movies, like 'Ilsa, she.wole of the SS'.
    , @Incitatus
    Wally,

    An honor! Seriously! Few, if any, have the shear - can one say - dedication for view propagation.

    “...desperate state of panic...”
     
    Alas, wish it were so. At my age any emotion, proof of life itself, is welcome.

    “We will bury you."
     
    Remember it, and Niki’s UN fist banging as well. The good old ‘duck and cover’ days! Back again after all these years, with DJT putting nuclear-armed B-52s on 24-hour alert. Feel safer already!

    “irrational, anti science Zionists”
     
    Neither anti-science or Zionist. Feel free to peruse the archive. Warning: you may find indifference to broad categorization.

    “fake ‘holocaust’”
     
    Well, there you have me. Believe it took place. Less concerned with numbers, though mainstream historians seem to agree millions died. That said, it’s not my raison d’être. You’re fully entitled to contrary opinion. Whatever turns you on, as we used to say.

    Not adverse to debate, but try to avoid deaf pantomime in echo chambers.

    “Only liars use fakes.”
     
    Laudable righteous indignation. No doubt you condemn:

    • Fred Leuchtner, for falsely claiming engineering degrees and licenses;
    • Benjamin Freedman, for demonstrably false history and chronology;
    • Tyler Kent, for theft, petty collaboration, and spurious innuendo.

    “...if you’re not afraid.”
     
    No problem. My only fear as a senior is wearing clashing plaids, driving at night and dozing at mealtime.

    Wally, do you have any interest other than codoh and sibling sites?
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  82. @Incitatus

    “I didn’t think the swastika was associated with “hatred of the Jews” until ~May of 1933 when James Waterman Wise, Rabbi Stephen Wise’s son, published a really nasty screed, “Swastika,” in which the first paragraph identified the design as “symbolizing hatred of Jews.”
     
    Not very good with dates S2C?

    “Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism… How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist!”
    -Adolf Hitler "Why We Are Anti-Semites," 15 Aug 1920 Hofbräuhaus speech
     
    Let’s see. 1933 - 1920 = 13 years? Dolf’s “hatred of the Jews” seems well before the Wise’s “really nasty screed” in ‘33.

    “National Socialists DID NOT, repeat DID NOT use antisemitic rhetoric during their campaigns in rise to power, nor did National Socialists use antisemitic rhetoric once having gained power; nor did National Socialists use “exterminationist” rhetoric at any time in their rise or period of rule (contrary to Sam Shama’s wet dreams).”
     
    Was Hitler a National Socialist

    “Therefore, I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's work.”

    “Was there any shady undertaking, any form of foulness, especially in cultural life, in which at least one Jew did not participate? On putting the probing knife carefully to that kind of abscess one immediately discovered, like a maggot in a putrescent body, a little Jew who was often blinded by the sudden light.”

    “Was there any excrement, any shamelessness in any form, above all in cultural life, in which at least one Jew would not have been involved? As soon as one even carefully cut into such an abscess, one found, like maggots in a decaying body, often blinded by the sudden light, a kike.”

    -Adolf Hitler ‘Mein Kampf’ Chapter 3 Volume One 1925
     
    Antisemitic? Of course not. Sentiments of Dolf’s comity and benevolence. Yes, eight years later Wise must have suffered from “a projection of Jewish rejection of logos, and a signal of Jewry’s deep antipathy to the German intention to regain sovereignty over its own culture of “pray and work...

    Spending too much time with Wally and the peacock S2C?

    Listen to your grandchildren. Your words “pathetic”, “inconvenient realities” and “obsessed” come readily to mind.

    kike

    Hey — Hitler wrote in English!
    Who knew?

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    Indeed, making fake English 'translations' of German is a very old trick used by lying Zionists.
    The examples are legion.

    Also recall that 'up rooting' & 'evacuation' in German is always claimed to mean 'extermination'.

    Jews weasel word it by claiming the Germans all spoke in "code words".

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the ridiculous 'holocaust' storyline is the message.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
     
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  83. turtle says:

    “Jewish” and “Semitic” are not the same thing at all.
    There are Jews who are not Semites, and there are Semites who are not Jews.

    Examples of the former:
    Connie Chung is Jewish.
    She is not Semitic.
    She is Chinese.
    Ivanka Trump is Jewish.
    She is not Semitic.
    She is of Aryan and Slavic heritage.
    The late Elizabeth Taylor was Jewish.
    She was not even remotely Semitic.
    The late Paul Newman ( a man whom I greatly admired both personally and professionally) was Jewish.
    With his blond hair and blue eyes, he did not appear Semitic to me.

    Examples of the latter:
    The king of Saudi Arabia is Semitic.
    He is not Jewish.
    He is Arab.
    The late Osama bin Laden was Semitic.
    He was not Jewish.
    He was Arab.
    I have a Semitic friend who was born and raised in Baghdad, Iraq.
    He is Semitic.
    He is not Jewish.
    He is Arab.
    (It is possible to be a Jew born and raised in Baghdad, but that does not apply, in this case.)
    All the Arabs of Palestine are Semitic people.
    None of them are Jewish.

    The vast majority of Semitic people who are not Jewish are Arabs.
    All Arabs are Semitic human beings.
    There are also some Aramaic people, but their numbers are few.

    Some will contend that “historically” “anti-Semitic” has been taken to mean “anti-Jewish.”

    I say to them:
    Continued incorrect usage does not make a thing correct.
    I could, for example, call a cat a “llama.”
    If I did so repeatedly, then, for me at least, this would constitute “historical usage.”
    Despite this usage, it would still be incorrect.

    The road to understanding begins with naming things properly.
    I believe a Chinese guy said that long ago.

    I assert that anyone who uses “anti-Semitic” to mean “anti-Jewish” is either woefully ignorant, or else is a vicious racist who denies the humanity of Arabs.

    I would expect the latter from at least some Jews, based on their public statements to the effect that all non-Jews are lower forms of life, but the rest of humanity have no excuse.

    In fact, at least some enlightened Jews do repudiate the “non-Jews are animals” paradigm, but still persist in the “anti-Jewish is anti-Semitic” canard.

    They, and all others who are similarly intellectually lazy, need to police their own speech.

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    Actually, Semitic refers to a group of related languages spoken by various people's.

    That's all it is

    Until late 19th century Zionist activists created the "Semite People's" claiming brotherhood with Arabs. In the 1870s to 1917 zionists wished only to save their little brown Semitic brothers from the evil Turks. From 1922 to 1948 the zionists only wanted to save their little brown Semitic brothers from the evil British.

    But actually, Semitic is a language group, not human beings.
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  84. CalDre says:
    @Tyrion
    'Jewish yoke'. Kooky fantasy Mr Shamir!

    This article is not much more. Just a string of literary devices in a whimsical tone that does little more than open up the skin for the commenters to rush in and create a weeping sore of projected neuroses and strange onanisms in their posts below.

    One minor quibble though, is worth bringing up, for the benefit of your seemingly few functional readers.

    Now in England, there is a terrible witch-hunt for antisemites in the Labour Party. The idea is to destroy Jeremy Corbyn, to return the party to the people of Blair and his Jewish paymaster Mandelson, who said, “I try to undermine Jeremy Corbyn ‘every single day” with their antisemitism allegations. Corbyn is doing everything to cover himself from this side. Good people, strong activists had been expelled for very little reason,
     
    It is not a 'terrible witch hunt'. It was one of many (ineffective) tools used to tried to lower Mr Corbyn's popularity, because politics is nowawadays played through such accusations. I say ineffective, because it did not work, even though had it been about any other ethnic or religious group, bar the native, it would have worked.

    It did help to lower the number of Jews voting for Labour. Jews don't tend to like anti-Semitism and a (Muslim) Labour councillor declaring "Hitler" to be "history's great man" is surely an understandable turn off.

    On the other hand, it raised the Muslim vote for Labour, which is far bigger, especially the turnout. After all, what could be a bigger vote winner for, for example, the Pakistani population that is 3% of births but 30% of confirmed genetic diseases at birth? (Imagine the tail end effects on that one!)

    Regardless, you have Labour MP Naz Shah, who actually seems like a nice and moderate lady and who holds an important parliamentary role, endorsing the following:

    “Solution for Israel-Palestine Conflict – Relocate Israel into United States”, with the comment: “Problem solved.”

    This is cut and dried ethnic cleansing. But hey, it is of Jews, and those wandering rootless losers can take it, not like the afore-mentioned Bradford Pakistani population...

    She recently followed this up with the even (much?) worse endorsement of the abuse of white girls by Muslim men.

    "Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity".

    Lovely...

    For context, it may be as much as a million cases of abuse by Muslim men. It is certainly something that has occurred country wide.

    ...

    I actually like Naz Shah. She is a palatable public face for her community. Of course, that she is, and that this is why her political career is on a sustained upwards trajectory, is not a great augur for the future of this country.

    Anyway, enough on this, the Jewish population of the UK is a couple of hundred thousand. The Muslim population of the UK grew by more than that last year. Any Brit scared of the Jews is certifiably insane.

    This is cut and dried ethnic cleansing. But hey, it is of Jews, and those wandering rootless losers can take it, not like the afore-mentioned Bradford Pakistani population

    I suppose kicking out an invading army is also “ethnic cleansing” but I guess when you live in the world of Libtard absolutes you should just allow yourself to be overrun.

    Like UK is doing.

    But therein lies the rub. The Palestinians have never accepted the Jewish invasion and their own abject oppression, and are still trying to repel it. You Brit twats, on the other hand, on the orders of your Jewish masters, invite Pakistanis and other incompatible peoples in by the shipload, at such a rate that assimilation is all but ruled out. Once you have extended an invite it’s a different matter to boot folks out.

    On the other hand, if Pakistanis in the UK rounded local British folk up into prison camps and terribly abused them like the Jews abuse the Palestinians, day in, day out, in wretched displays of brutality and supremacism, stealing their land, detentions without trial, demolishing homes, etc., etc., no doubt even the Jew-idolizing Brit wankers would possibly, just possibly, wake up and start agitating for an expulsion (and, with any brains, would include the Jews on those ships back to Pakiland).

    Or one can hope, though frankly you provide precious little optimism.

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  85. joe webb says:

    I try to get at first principles, or fundamentals. To use the cliched military lingo of tactics vs. strategy, the negroes and third world savages or barbarians, are our present foremost Enemies. tactics. The strategy is to get rid of jews and their liberal race traitors. less easily done.

    The Jews lie behind that assault on us. However, the mind-sets involved….hyper-altruism in whites and hatred in Jews, is general and genetic in origin and nothing can be done about it except to educate whites about it and get them to see Enemies. Whites have been able to do that up until now what with the race equality propaganda successfully targeting our altruistic traits. TRAITS.

    The Jewish trait, Trait, of seeing enemies everywhere is not going to go away. What can be done about it? Nothing.

    Their Warrior God is in their genes. The jew makes God in his own image. This is not only restricted to jews. It is true generally of all peoples/races.

    Somehow the Northern whites who came down and conquered Greece and Rome and the Mediterranean had plenty of fight in them, probably largely related to survival needs. The Vikings, like if you have been to Norway…very little arable land. So, survival meant raiding and colonizing. Once morphed into farmers in England and Ireland and northern France, they mellowed out to some large degree, and now they are pussies since they think they are The Best, and parade their Virtue of peace and love.

    The Jews will never settle down and become normal people. Zionism thought they could: they cannot. Jews as normal? Give and take, take it easy, porch-time, hobbies and sports and extra-curricular interests…forget it.

    They are not happy unless unhappy about anything. In Palo Alto, a few years ago, they built a community center. It looks like a fort, no first floor, and security everywhere. Palo Alto?

    The goyim are coming. Actually, it was about the time that I got a lot of goyem upset about their Eruv which they were forcing down the throats of Palo Alto. Even the liberals raised their eyebrows. and the Eruv was dropped…for about 10 years, I also pointed out the sweetheart deal the jews had jude out of the local school district on the rental of a school for their jewish center.

    If you think they will ever relax and join up with Whites…you are naive.

    Meanwhile, the genes for warrior-god are solidly in place in the Semites: jewish and Arab genome. while Jesus the peacenik betrays Christians to the jews, the negroes, the beaners, and on and on. Just go into local hospital and see who works there. O…and the jews and white race traitors betray us to the A-rabs…I already said that.

    Read Israel Shahak, the real good Israeli writer…a scientist and Best of the anti-zionists. Shamir is a communist. Shahak was a kind of social democrat. he said the the jewish totalitarianism of warrior god (my term) osmoses into zionism. It is just more of the same old OT and Talmud hatreds expressed in more modern form. Genetics, traits, Old Middle Eastern Magian Religion..totalitarian. No jew ever wrote about political liberty and free speech …ever in European history or Jewish history. True Oriental Despots, both political and religious.

    The whole world of Other races is a genetic disaster. Jews and Asians: extreme collectivism. Africans: not even tribalism, just chaos/war lords. Arabs and Amerindians: tribe, and clan.
    Asian Indians a bit better since their northern ruler types have a lot of white blood…from the Indo-Aryan invaders of 1200 years BC. etc. They are even very white in the North of India. Some tiny bit of this in Iran as well, north…white. And they pride themselves on their whiteness.

    Whites are the only race worth considering as fully human. Our women are in big trouble, another story. Joe Webb

    Joe Webb

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    if you think they [Jews] will ever relax and join up with Whites…you are naive.
     
    Then the thing for Whites to do is join up with Blacks:
    1. if they're as simple-minded as some claim, it shouldn't be hard to de-program/re-program them.
    2. if they're as brilliant as PrissFactor claimed elsewhere (# 69) (tongue in cheeky? duh!), and if Blacks are boinking Whites as routinely as Priss claims, then a White-Black alliance will be not only beneficial to both but will rebalance the demographic, all the while removing the Blacks-as-weapons from control by Jews.

    3. Your next assignment: Mark Zuckerberg married Chinese. Jews think Chinese are at least as greedy, if not more greedy, than (some -- heaven forbid a gross generalization) Jews (Shlomo Wald wrote a white paper for JPPPI about Jewish-Chinese relations in face of declining US superpower status. In one letter of introduction to the Paper, Wald observed how greedy Chinese were.) Is that the next Jewish tactic -- Jewish-Israel -- Chinese alliance vs Whitey? How will such a tactic succeed against a White-Black alliance?

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  86. @renfro
    This is what Jews do. They propagandize even our children.
    And to settle the question of how many Jews are Zionist....find me one Jew in the msm or one Jew in the 1000's of Jewish publications who doesn't promote Israel.
    True anti zionist Jews are few and far between....very few.

    Educators and Librarians: You may order "America and the Holocaust" at PBS

    America and the Holocaust: Suggestions for the Classrom

    Themes: The Holocaust, anti-Semitism, U.S. immigration policy, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, World War II

    Complex social and political factors shaped America's response to the Holocaust, from Kristallnacht in 1938 through the liberation of the death camps in 1945. For a short time, the US had an opportunity to open its doors, but instead erected a "paper wall," a bureaucratic maze that prevented all but a few Jewish refugees from entering the country. It was not until 1944, that a small band of Treasury Department employees forced the government to respond.

    Before Watching
    Write the following terms on the board:
    anti-Semitism ethnic cleansing
    holocaust refugee
    immigrant quotas
    red tape melting pot

    Tell students that these words are related to the program they are about to watch. Ask them what they think these terms mean, and what they think the film will be about. Assign half the class to listen for these terms as they view the program, to broaden the definitions the class came up with before watching the film.

    Assign the other half of the class to pay attention to the sources of information made available to government officials and the public, and how these were used to influence public opinion.

    Discussion Questions
    What image do you most remember from the film? Why? What makes that image an important visual symbol for the story the film tells?

    How was the film different from what you expected? How did it change or expand your understanding of the terms you discussed before the film? How did it change or expand your understanding of the Holocaust, and of the role of the United States in World War II?

    U.S. government knew about the persecution of European Jews long before the genocide began. What sources of information did the U.S. government have about this persecution and subsequent mass murders? How was this information treated and why? When do you think the government should have become involved in helping the Jews, and what should it have done? Why do you think the government finally decided to set up the War Refugee Board?

    During the Casablanca Conference in January 1943, Roosevelt spoke with the French resident general at Rabat, Morocco, about postwar independence and the Jewish immigrants in North America. Roosevelt argued that

    ...the number of Jews engaged in the practice of the professions (law, medicine, etc.) should be definitely limited to the percentage that the Jewish population in North Africa bears to the whole of the North African population.... [T]his plan would further eliminate the specific and understandable complaints which the Germans bore towards the Jews in Germany, namely, that while they represented a small part of the population, over 50 percent of the lawyers, doctors, schoolteachers, college professors, etc., in Germany were Jews.1

    What do you think about Roosevelt's suggestion? How do his comments reflect the anti-Semitism of the times? How do they help explain his inaction?

    In the preface to the book The Abandonment of the Jews(Pantheon Books, 1984), David Wyman recounts the inaction of the U.S. government and much of the public to the news of Hitler's Final Solution and asks, "Would the reaction be different today? Would Americans be more sensitive, less self-centered, more willing to make sacrifices, less afraid of differences now than they were then?" What do you think? Consider our current attitudes towards minorities and immigrants in light of the crises in Bosnia and Rwanda.

    Think about how the sources used to inform and/or influence public opinion were different during World War II and the Gulf War. How has the role of the media changed? How has this been a change for the better? For the worse?

    Suggested Activities
    Compare the coverage of local, national, and world news in your local Sunday newspaper. How is the news of trouble in countries where the United States is involved reported differently than in countries where it isn't? What can students infer from the placement of different articles within the paper? What can they infer from the differences in headlines and the amount of space allotted to different issues? What do they think the newspaper reflects about our society? its values? its interests?

    As a class, list examples of recent hate crimes committed within your state or the country. What happened? Who were the victims? Assign students to choose one example of a hate crime and use newspapers and periodicals to research the circumstances of the crime as well as the public and legal response to it.

    Ask students to interview a recent immigrant to the United States to learn about the immigrants reasons for coming to the United States and the process of immigration. Have students research the U.S. immigration policy for citizens of their subject's native country prior to their interviews. How has the immigration policy for residents of the native country changed during the past fifty years, and what factors have led to these changes?

    As a class, brainstorm definitions of the American Dream. Then list any associations with the term. Ask students to write an essay in which they explain what the term means to them and why.

    The minority running the US and the western world is much less than the famous 1% having a wealth above one million US$. It is even less than 1% of the “rich” minority.
    Among that that minority, the Jews are a majority. But having said that, having identified the major threat to the World, does not require to hate the Jewish community but to find a way to deprive them from their power.

    Hate towards that community is not the road to peace and actually, it strengthen the community. Their strength has its roots in the Financial system which gave them unlimited resources as it rests on a fiducial money. The only way to unseat that community is a major bankrupt that will break the Financial system and oblige the world to go back to a money based on gold.

    The problem with that is: people and countries might oppose that minority but none are willing to accept the loss of what they have. In doing so, they are supporting the minority and instead of accepting loosing some weight, they are going to loose their life as that minority is driving us to the Apocalypse.

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    But having said that, having identified the major threat to the World, does not require to hate the Jewish community but to find a way to deprive them from their power.
    Hate towards that community is not the road to peace and actually, it strengthen the community.''


    I am not suggesting 'hate'...I am suggesting refusal to keep tolerating the 'Jewish entitlement' and attitude that the world 'owes them' and that they are a 'special people'..so 'special' that the US (and the world) must pay for and support a 'Jewish State' and extend 'special privileges' of any kind to Jews or to Israel.

    But lets talk about the Jewish 'community' in general terms and 'human nature'.
    How many benefits flow to the 'community' thru the uber Zionist Jews? I could take up this whole page listing them. And you would see that many of them have been and are injurious to the US and average Americans. Human nature is such that most people don't want to give up getting something for nothing...Jews in particular because they are imbibed with the belief that they are the world's 'victims' and so why shouldn't they be given extra of everything by the evil gentiles who victimized them? This is a common attitude...whether a Jew actively or passively or not at all supports Israel.

    I am not a psychiatrist (my sister in law is however) but common sense should tell anyone
    that the more we 'legitimize and 'encourage Jews idea of themselves as 'entitled victims' the more and more they will take advantage of that..
    I am pretty sure that you don't cure paranoia or 'spoiled brats' by agreeing with them that they are indeed special and giving them anything they demand. I am pretty sure you don't cure an outlaw state like Israel by agreeing that everyone is out to kill them and loading them up with money and weapons.

    The biggest motivators in humans are first survival then love, hate, fear of lose and desire for gain.

    I think it would be good if US Jews 'felt some fear of lose'...of losing their welcome in the US, of losing their acceptance, of losing their protection of having their little ' feelings hurt' such as the nonsense on college campuses and their whines about hurt feelings and feeling unloved and threatened because they promote Israel and other groups promote Palestine freedom.

    MAYBE then they would actually do something about that 'tiny minority' of treasonous Jews in their community. BUT as long as the 'community' gets only carrots/benefits from their US Jewish Fifth Column and no sticks they aren't going to do anything.

    In case no one has ever noticed 'collective punishment' ...no matter how we denounce it as unfair ...IS the way of the world....the citizens, guilty or innocent always end up paying for their leaders evil or mistakes....so if the collective doesn't want to suffer for their leaders actions they better get busy and start renouncing them and accept the Jew's place as 'equal to' others instead of privileged ' above others.'
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  87. Thank you, Mr. Shamir, for another penetrating examination of the West’s never-ending entanglement with the Zionist project as well as all things Jewish. This churning dilemma offers up no easy solution.

    While Jews wail endlessly about ‘antisemitism’, what may in fact be the world’s foremost problem is it’s opposite: freeing humanity from the ruthless and fanatical quest by Jews for supreme Jewish privilege, supreme Jewish prestige, and supreme Jewish power.

    The core problem for humanity is not antisemitism. The core problem does not involve any long-dead German leader. Thinking this way is a product of Jewish sophistry and manipulation.

    The real problem is unchecked Jewish power–right here and right now–and the lethal abuse of that power.

    Consider the wars since 911. Virtually all these preventable US engagements have targeted foes (or allies of foes) of Israel. This is no coincidence.

    Consider the rising and organized assaults on Free Speech throughout the Western world. This too is orchestrated.

    Consider the racial transformation of Europe and America; our suicidal immigration policies. Compare them to Israel’s.

    Consider the unceasing waves of Zio-Holocaust propaganda in film, television and in the American and European classroom.

    Consider the dominant narrative on (white) ‘racism’ and–by contrast–the Zionist exhortations for ‘Jewish continuity’.

    Is it acceptable to note the fact that so much political mayhem and financial malfeasance is covered with Jewish fingerprints?

    Does exploring this phenomena make one a dreaded ‘antisemite’?

    Yes it does.

    Jewish scripture teaches that Jews are the Chosen People. But it doesn’t end there.

    G-d loves the Jewish people more. (and maybe you should, too).

    On the other hand, secular Jews see themselves as both intellectually and morally superior.

    This orientation is clearly supremacist. Yet only whites get branded with that all-purpose smear.

    Ironically, the idea of innate Jewish superiority paves the way for the victimization of non-Jews by Jews. Many Jews–surely most–see gentiles as a lesser breed.

    Humanity’s dilemma is finding a way out. How to break free?

    Can America, for instance, ever separate itself from Israel?

    Or is the bond, as they say in Washington, ‘unshakable’?

    (If so, why?)

    Can these questions even be posed?

    Not outside an internet chat zone.

    Step one: recognize the problem.

    We are living in a period–right now–of Zio-Jewish tyranny. If the dead could talk, millions throughout the world would agree.

    And wouldn’t you know it: those of us who dare to discuss this deadly phenomena–and who want to find a legitimate way out of it–are smeared as ‘white supremacists’ or ‘antisemites’.

    Even Trump has been boxed in and rolled over by this phenomena. The problem is real and it is extreme. And the false antisemitism meme is just one weapon in the Zionist arsenal.

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  88. Tyrion says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    It is not a ‘terrible witch hunt’. It was one of many (ineffective) tools used to tried to lower Mr Corbyn’s popularity, because politics is nowawadays played through such accusations.
     
    Sure. But do you ever ask yourself: Why that particular accusation rather than another? Why? Because Corbyn is pro-Palestinian and has been for a long time. They're specifically signalling him to back off that issue. They're doing the same with Trump; after all, why is it called Russia-gate rather than some other -gate? So naturally they would try to attack Corbyn for 'anti-semitism' - this is all about Project Israel.

    Sure. But do you ever ask yourself: Why that particular accusation rather than another? Why? Because Corbyn is pro-Palestinian and has been for a long time. They’re specifically signalling him to back off that issue. They’re doing the same with Trump; after all, why is it called Russia-gate rather than some other -gate? So naturally they would try to attack Corbyn for ‘anti-semitism’ – this is all about Project Israel.

    1. It is not that ‘particular’ an accusation. Other accusations include misogyny, unilateral disarmament, communism, his stance on Venezuela, corruption among unions, his well-heeled upbringing, his disloyalty to his party colleagues etc etc.

    The key being that they need at least an element of truth and they need to be generally considered a bad thing.

    2. How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    Putin has been very fair with Israel. He seems to judge it according to the global standard, as he wants Russia to be judged.

    Obama, on the other hand, tried to hold Israel to the much higher and much more restrictive standard that the resentful left holds all white people, or even whatever they can identify as the white and therefore bad side, in any conflict.

    The idea that Jews acting in Israeli interests would want to harm Trump, push him from Putin and use Obama as a paragon is nuts. They would have to be beyond stupid.

    But then for many of the commenters on this site anti-Semitism seems to consist of identifying whatever they happen to dislike and then somehow believing that the Jews did it.

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    2. How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?
     
    perhaps because accusations of foreign meddling in our elections are idiotic and dishonest if you don't notice the yamika-wearing 700 lb. purple gorilla in the living room?

    one of the commenters here a while back exhorted us Americans to create a lobby to lobby our congressworms on behalf of the citizens of the US, if we actually wanted them to look out for America's interests too, and not just Israel's, because unlike us lazy and cheap Americans, the Israelis and American Jews were willing to spend the money and effort to make sure congress goes along with Israel no matter what.

    someone pointed out to him the absurdity of asking Americans to create a lobby to bribe 'our' American representatives to actually represent America, rather than a hostile foreign nation.

    my suggestion is to 'Eric Cantor' all the whores of Zion

    starting with Paul Ryan

    what do you think? Good idea?
    , @Art
    How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    It covers up Israeli interference in our election. It misdirects attention away from Israel.

    Say Sheldon Adelson- George Sores.

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @Seamus Padraig
    1. Oh? And how many Labour Party members lately have been subjected to an inquiry by their own party for their 'stance on Venezuela'? Exactly none. But at least three member--all on very specious pretenses--have now been subjected to just such a colonoscopy because of 'anti-semitism'.

    2. I didn't say Corbyn-gate is about Russia-gate; I said it's like Russia-gate, meaning: an evidence-free smear-campaign meant to intimidate both of them, respectively, into backing off of an issue they have loudly professed to care about. But FYI, there are indeed 'big Jews' involved in both operations. As far as Putin is concerned, I know he has a fan club in Israel. Almost a quarter of the Israeli population is from Russia (or some other former SSR), so he's got a built-in advantage. But the neocons and the money-changers want him gone so they can get at Russia again.

    , @Alden
    American Jews worship Obama and loathe and detest Trump because their leadership told them to.

    Same thing with gays, from 1970's legalization, to 1980's AIDS hysteria, to NAMBLA, to gay marriage to transgender bathrooms, to hormone treatments for 10 yr olds to turn them into the opposite sex; as soon as a liberal fad comes along Jews jump right in.

    Sinks filled with liberal propaganda until propaganda headquarters fills the sink with some new liberal propaganda.
    That's the brain of a liberal.

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  89. Tyrion says:
    @helena
    I need a ghost writer, are you interested?

    You can write to me using
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  90. Tyrion says:
    @Issac
    "Jewish population of the UK is a couple of hundred thousand. The Muslim population of the UK grew by more than that last year. Any Brit scared of the Jews is certifiably insane."

    And yet those Brits would be right in their estimation that criticism of either group would land them in prison. Fear of imprisonment for verbal missteps strikes me as quite sane. Indeed, it would be completely insane of these British gentiles not to fear those whom their state has elevated above them by every legal measure.

    There is an ever-growing list of groups protected from speech. These include men in dresses. It is disingenous to counter my point with reference to speech codes. Mine was about people being scared of the Jews as opposed to falling foul of pc speech codes.

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  91. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Ron,

    I am requesting you once again, please stop article like these on your site. These kind of articles will lead to physical attacks on jews… or does anybody here know his email address. I doubt he will even bother to read this comment of mine.

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  92. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    >”Whites are the only race worth considering as fully human”<

    I am not white but i consider whites to be fully human. All other races consider whites to be fully human. Why cant you do the same?

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  93. Rurik says:
    @Tyrion

    Sure. But do you ever ask yourself: Why that particular accusation rather than another? Why? Because Corbyn is pro-Palestinian and has been for a long time. They’re specifically signalling him to back off that issue. They’re doing the same with Trump; after all, why is it called Russia-gate rather than some other -gate? So naturally they would try to attack Corbyn for ‘anti-semitism’ – this is all about Project Israel.
     
    1. It is not that 'particular' an accusation. Other accusations include misogyny, unilateral disarmament, communism, his stance on Venezuela, corruption among unions, his well-heeled upbringing, his disloyalty to his party colleagues etc etc.

    The key being that they need at least an element of truth and they need to be generally considered a bad thing.

    2. How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    Putin has been very fair with Israel. He seems to judge it according to the global standard, as he wants Russia to be judged.

    Obama, on the other hand, tried to hold Israel to the much higher and much more restrictive standard that the resentful left holds all white people, or even whatever they can identify as the white and therefore bad side, in any conflict.

    The idea that Jews acting in Israeli interests would want to harm Trump, push him from Putin and use Obama as a paragon is nuts. They would have to be beyond stupid.

    But then for many of the commenters on this site anti-Semitism seems to consist of identifying whatever they happen to dislike and then somehow believing that the Jews did it.

    2. How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    perhaps because accusations of foreign meddling in our elections are idiotic and dishonest if you don’t notice the yamika-wearing 700 lb. purple gorilla in the living room?

    one of the commenters here a while back exhorted us Americans to create a lobby to lobby our congressworms on behalf of the citizens of the US, if we actually wanted them to look out for America’s interests too, and not just Israel’s, because unlike us lazy and cheap Americans, the Israelis and American Jews were willing to spend the money and effort to make sure congress goes along with Israel no matter what.

    someone pointed out to him the absurdity of asking Americans to create a lobby to bribe ‘our’ American representatives to actually represent America, rather than a hostile foreign nation.

    my suggestion is to ‘Eric Cantor’ all the whores of Zion

    starting with Paul Ryan

    what do you think? Good idea?

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    I think it is as clear that you are unable to dispute my post as it is that a bunch of Republicans need to get primaried.

    The closest thing to substance in your reply was referencing an anonymous internet troll as primary evidence...

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  94. Tyrion says:
    @Rurik

    2. How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?
     
    perhaps because accusations of foreign meddling in our elections are idiotic and dishonest if you don't notice the yamika-wearing 700 lb. purple gorilla in the living room?

    one of the commenters here a while back exhorted us Americans to create a lobby to lobby our congressworms on behalf of the citizens of the US, if we actually wanted them to look out for America's interests too, and not just Israel's, because unlike us lazy and cheap Americans, the Israelis and American Jews were willing to spend the money and effort to make sure congress goes along with Israel no matter what.

    someone pointed out to him the absurdity of asking Americans to create a lobby to bribe 'our' American representatives to actually represent America, rather than a hostile foreign nation.

    my suggestion is to 'Eric Cantor' all the whores of Zion

    starting with Paul Ryan

    what do you think? Good idea?

    I think it is as clear that you are unable to dispute my post as it is that a bunch of Republicans need to get primaried.

    The closest thing to substance in your reply was referencing an anonymous internet troll as primary evidence…

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    that you are unable to dispute my post
     
    I didn't have to

    anyone with a brain the size of a pea can see the idiocy of your words

    Obama, on the other hand, tried to hold Israel to the much higher and much more restrictive standard that the resentful left holds all white people
     
    the resentful left wants white people genocided, duh

    Obama hardly held Israel to that 'standard'. Obama slavishly supported Israel as he made guarantees of tens of billions of dollars in aid that the American tax-slave was on the hook for. That's hardly trying to genocide them.

    I mean Obama said Israel had to defend itself as it was dropping bombs on hospitals and schools in Gaza. He was their bitch, just like they all are.

    Your sympathies are transparent, and indefensible.

    your shtick is to blend white folks in the US with Israel, and that's pure horse manure
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  95. Rurik says:
    @Tyrion
    I think it is as clear that you are unable to dispute my post as it is that a bunch of Republicans need to get primaried.

    The closest thing to substance in your reply was referencing an anonymous internet troll as primary evidence...

    that you are unable to dispute my post

    I didn’t have to

    anyone with a brain the size of a pea can see the idiocy of your words

    Obama, on the other hand, tried to hold Israel to the much higher and much more restrictive standard that the resentful left holds all white people

    the resentful left wants white people genocided, duh

    Obama hardly held Israel to that ‘standard’. Obama slavishly supported Israel as he made guarantees of tens of billions of dollars in aid that the American tax-slave was on the hook for. That’s hardly trying to genocide them.

    I mean Obama said Israel had to defend itself as it was dropping bombs on hospitals and schools in Gaza. He was their bitch, just like they all are.

    Your sympathies are transparent, and indefensible.

    your shtick is to blend white folks in the US with Israel, and that’s pure horse manure

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    I said 'tried'. Not that he was one hundred percent successful. Nor does the resentful left actually seek white genocide. Don't be dumb. They want many things that could lead to that but it obviously isn't their intention.

    As for me trying to blend Israel into the white American population. I merely said that was the way the resentful left sees it. Which it does.

    , @Anon-og
    Agreed....Obama may have been black but he was a Jewish president, one needs no more proof than Netanyahu addressing Congress without the slightest regard for or permission from our President. The problem with Obama was that he did not do enough for the Jews who put him in office, as if there would ever be enough one could do to satisfy them. He increased aide to Israel to amounts never before seen, sat by and said nothing as Gaza was slaughtered, helped create a new gender and forced the Rainbow revolution down everyone's throat.
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  96. Che Guava says:
    @anarchyst
    The “beginning of the end” of Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants.
    Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their "dirty work" for them...
    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Cardinal Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back" against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize celebration of pre-Vatican II principles. Conservative pre-Vatican II Catholicism still exists with SSPX and other Catholic societies.

    Thanks. I am knowimg some of it, and am interested in SSPX, I was looking into it because of living near their Tokyo HQ, it is not a church, but an administration centre.

    They are very rarely to holding the Missa at other places.

    As saying in an earlier post, my closest Catholic friend is a Marian cult fanatic, and says that without the vernacular form, nobody would understand, but then is admitting that the vernacular Missa is full of archaic lamguage.

    I prefer the Latin Rite, still the standard at my S-E Asia middle-high school, many years after V II.

    Still, last time I was to escaping from Tokyo, a long visit to Niigata cathedral, a modest building, but very graceful, great objects of devotion. Not the first time to have visited the place.

    Also. was assuming the random old man I met was the priest, addresed as such, embarrassed, he was not, but a very kind person.

    Nobody will reading this comment!

    So I will throwing in comments.

    1. Anglican and Episcopalian (the same thing) priests are far more inclined to pederasty than Catholic priests.

    2. They are more integrated with the gay scene, so are having no such crit. as Catholic clergy.

    Even though they are allowed to marry. Many times, in Anglican/Episcopalian it is a marrage of homosexuals,

    Just look at the woman ‘priests’ and ‘bishops’.

    The only real interest for most of the women is in the vestments and the better the chances for munching muff that the vestments vest.

    Many of the men are equivalent, Welby may not quite fitting my schema, but he Is sure to loving to camp it up in his Archbishop’s vestments.

    If you are looking at his Twit feed, there are many examples where he, in his vestments. is smiling over tragic news. His photo-avatar is always having an idiot grin, like Anthony Blair in press photos.

    My opinion is that Blair and Welby are, in some way, birds of a feather

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  97. @joe webb
    I try to get at first principles, or fundamentals. To use the cliched military lingo of tactics vs. strategy, the negroes and third world savages or barbarians, are our present foremost Enemies. tactics. The strategy is to get rid of jews and their liberal race traitors. less easily done.

    The Jews lie behind that assault on us. However, the mind-sets involved....hyper-altruism in whites and hatred in Jews, is general and genetic in origin and nothing can be done about it except to educate whites about it and get them to see Enemies. Whites have been able to do that up until now what with the race equality propaganda successfully targeting our altruistic traits. TRAITS.

    The Jewish trait, Trait, of seeing enemies everywhere is not going to go away. What can be done about it? Nothing.

    Their Warrior God is in their genes. The jew makes God in his own image. This is not only restricted to jews. It is true generally of all peoples/races.

    Somehow the Northern whites who came down and conquered Greece and Rome and the Mediterranean had plenty of fight in them, probably largely related to survival needs. The Vikings, like if you have been to Norway...very little arable land. So, survival meant raiding and colonizing. Once morphed into farmers in England and Ireland and northern France, they mellowed out to some large degree, and now they are pussies since they think they are The Best, and parade their Virtue of peace and love.

    The Jews will never settle down and become normal people. Zionism thought they could: they cannot. Jews as normal? Give and take, take it easy, porch-time, hobbies and sports and extra-curricular interests...forget it.

    They are not happy unless unhappy about anything. In Palo Alto, a few years ago, they built a community center. It looks like a fort, no first floor, and security everywhere. Palo Alto?

    The goyim are coming. Actually, it was about the time that I got a lot of goyem upset about their Eruv which they were forcing down the throats of Palo Alto. Even the liberals raised their eyebrows. and the Eruv was dropped...for about 10 years, I also pointed out the sweetheart deal the jews had jude out of the local school district on the rental of a school for their jewish center.

    If you think they will ever relax and join up with Whites...you are naive.

    Meanwhile, the genes for warrior-god are solidly in place in the Semites: jewish and Arab genome. while Jesus the peacenik betrays Christians to the jews, the negroes, the beaners, and on and on. Just go into local hospital and see who works there. O...and the jews and white race traitors betray us to the A-rabs...I already said that.

    Read Israel Shahak, the real good Israeli writer...a scientist and Best of the anti-zionists. Shamir is a communist. Shahak was a kind of social democrat. he said the the jewish totalitarianism of warrior god (my term) osmoses into zionism. It is just more of the same old OT and Talmud hatreds expressed in more modern form. Genetics, traits, Old Middle Eastern Magian Religion..totalitarian. No jew ever wrote about political liberty and free speech ...ever in European history or Jewish history. True Oriental Despots, both political and religious.

    The whole world of Other races is a genetic disaster. Jews and Asians: extreme collectivism. Africans: not even tribalism, just chaos/war lords. Arabs and Amerindians: tribe, and clan.
    Asian Indians a bit better since their northern ruler types have a lot of white blood...from the Indo-Aryan invaders of 1200 years BC. etc. They are even very white in the North of India. Some tiny bit of this in Iran as well, north...white. And they pride themselves on their whiteness.

    Whites are the only race worth considering as fully human. Our women are in big trouble, another story. Joe Webb

    Joe Webb

    if you think they [Jews] will ever relax and join up with Whites…you are naive.

    Then the thing for Whites to do is join up with Blacks:
    1. if they’re as simple-minded as some claim, it shouldn’t be hard to de-program/re-program them.
    2. if they’re as brilliant as PrissFactor claimed elsewhere (# 69) (tongue in cheeky? duh!), and if Blacks are boinking Whites as routinely as Priss claims, then a White-Black alliance will be not only beneficial to both but will rebalance the demographic, all the while removing the Blacks-as-weapons from control by Jews.

    3. Your next assignment: Mark Zuckerberg married Chinese. Jews think Chinese are at least as greedy, if not more greedy, than (some — heaven forbid a gross generalization) Jews (Shlomo Wald wrote a white paper for JPPPI about Jewish-Chinese relations in face of declining US superpower status. In one letter of introduction to the Paper, Wald observed how greedy Chinese were.) Is that the next Jewish tactic — Jewish-Israel — Chinese alliance vs Whitey? How will such a tactic succeed against a White-Black alliance?

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  98. Sherman says:
    @Art
    Also the people who helped to publish the Silberstein story mostly seem to be Jewish.

    Two points - one damning - the other hopeful.

    Why did Gentiles not publish this story -- answer - FEAR - Fear - fear -- fear of the Jews. That sentence demonstrates Mr. Shamir’s point – Gentiles fear Jews.

    Hopefully some Jews are waking up to the dilemma of their tribe - known public dishonesty - they have come to see that they are just not trusted. That they can no longer jam down our throats any lie they can conger up.

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Although when Jews publish something negative about themselves – most of the time their goal is control the narrative.

    Hey Genius

    “Conger up” s/b “conjure up”.

    Peace
    Sherm

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    “Conger up” s/b “conjure up”.

    You humble me --- too bad you are not humbled by what your Jews do to the Palestinians.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  99. helena says:
    @Priss Factor
    In your world view are all Darkies dumb brutes?

    Not really. It doesn't matter what blacks once were. Chanda Chisala convinced me that the future will belong to the Negroes.

    Why? Negroes got 'big man' mentality and love to hump everyone. This will boost black IQ sky-high in the future, esp in Nigeria. Unlike non-black geeks who don't know how to approach womenfolk, high-IQ blacks are like other jive-ass blacks and go after tons of women. So, smart Nigerians will use their wealth to shamelessly get harems and hump tons of women. So, smart black genes will spread.
    Never mind brain drain. This will be Head Spread.

    And then, Negroes will not only have advantage with muscle and genitalia but with brains. They will not only be beating up non-blacks and humping all their womenfolk but using the intellect like a a million funky Einsteins.
    Soon, blacks will be making flying pyramids that will colonize Mars and other planets and then the entire galaxy. It won't be just a black planet but a black galaxy, to be renamed the Chocolate Milky Way Galaxy. Blacks will become like the monolith in 2001 and take over the entire cosmos.

    A frightening future indeed for non-black folks.

    A couple can be mixed-race but their grandchildren will likely be 75% of one of the races.

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  100. Tyrion says:
    @Rurik

    that you are unable to dispute my post
     
    I didn't have to

    anyone with a brain the size of a pea can see the idiocy of your words

    Obama, on the other hand, tried to hold Israel to the much higher and much more restrictive standard that the resentful left holds all white people
     
    the resentful left wants white people genocided, duh

    Obama hardly held Israel to that 'standard'. Obama slavishly supported Israel as he made guarantees of tens of billions of dollars in aid that the American tax-slave was on the hook for. That's hardly trying to genocide them.

    I mean Obama said Israel had to defend itself as it was dropping bombs on hospitals and schools in Gaza. He was their bitch, just like they all are.

    Your sympathies are transparent, and indefensible.

    your shtick is to blend white folks in the US with Israel, and that's pure horse manure

    I said ‘tried’. Not that he was one hundred percent successful. Nor does the resentful left actually seek white genocide. Don’t be dumb. They want many things that could lead to that but it obviously isn’t their intention.

    As for me trying to blend Israel into the white American population. I merely said that was the way the resentful left sees it. Which it does.

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  101. Art says:
    @Tyrion

    Sure. But do you ever ask yourself: Why that particular accusation rather than another? Why? Because Corbyn is pro-Palestinian and has been for a long time. They’re specifically signalling him to back off that issue. They’re doing the same with Trump; after all, why is it called Russia-gate rather than some other -gate? So naturally they would try to attack Corbyn for ‘anti-semitism’ – this is all about Project Israel.
     
    1. It is not that 'particular' an accusation. Other accusations include misogyny, unilateral disarmament, communism, his stance on Venezuela, corruption among unions, his well-heeled upbringing, his disloyalty to his party colleagues etc etc.

    The key being that they need at least an element of truth and they need to be generally considered a bad thing.

    2. How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    Putin has been very fair with Israel. He seems to judge it according to the global standard, as he wants Russia to be judged.

    Obama, on the other hand, tried to hold Israel to the much higher and much more restrictive standard that the resentful left holds all white people, or even whatever they can identify as the white and therefore bad side, in any conflict.

    The idea that Jews acting in Israeli interests would want to harm Trump, push him from Putin and use Obama as a paragon is nuts. They would have to be beyond stupid.

    But then for many of the commenters on this site anti-Semitism seems to consist of identifying whatever they happen to dislike and then somehow believing that the Jews did it.

    How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    It covers up Israeli interference in our election. It misdirects attention away from Israel.

    Say Sheldon Adelson- George Sores.

    Think Peace — Art

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    How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    It covers up Israeli interference in our election. It misdirects attention away from Israel.

    Say Sheldon Adelson- George Sores.

    Think Peace — Art
     
    ...they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli...what type of Israeli inteference is that?
    , @joe webb
    think war. Jw
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  102. Anon-og says:
    @Rurik

    that you are unable to dispute my post
     
    I didn't have to

    anyone with a brain the size of a pea can see the idiocy of your words

    Obama, on the other hand, tried to hold Israel to the much higher and much more restrictive standard that the resentful left holds all white people
     
    the resentful left wants white people genocided, duh

    Obama hardly held Israel to that 'standard'. Obama slavishly supported Israel as he made guarantees of tens of billions of dollars in aid that the American tax-slave was on the hook for. That's hardly trying to genocide them.

    I mean Obama said Israel had to defend itself as it was dropping bombs on hospitals and schools in Gaza. He was their bitch, just like they all are.

    Your sympathies are transparent, and indefensible.

    your shtick is to blend white folks in the US with Israel, and that's pure horse manure

    Agreed….Obama may have been black but he was a Jewish president, one needs no more proof than Netanyahu addressing Congress without the slightest regard for or permission from our President. The problem with Obama was that he did not do enough for the Jews who put him in office, as if there would ever be enough one could do to satisfy them. He increased aide to Israel to amounts never before seen, sat by and said nothing as Gaza was slaughtered, helped create a new gender and forced the Rainbow revolution down everyone’s throat.

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  103. Rurik says:

    I said ‘tried’. Not that he was one hundred percent successful.

    he didn’t try anything

    if anything, he was just a little less slavishly fawning to Israel than the previous ones

    Obama was president of the most powerful nation in the history of the planet

    if he had ‘tried’ to hold Israel to some kind of standard, he could have told them ‘no more aid until you vacate the land you’re trying to steal’. (to the thunderous cheers of the whole planet) That would have been ‘trying’ to do something, rather than capitulating in every way possible.

    The best thing you can say about Obama vis-a-vis Israel, is that it was clear that he hated Bibi’s white guts. But for all of that, he still bowed and scraped like a good little house nigger.

    Nor does the resentful left actually seek white genocide. Don’t be dumb. They want many things that could lead to that but it obviously isn’t their intention.

    of course that’s their intention

    you think massive and transformational non-white immigration into all white lands has some other intention?

    now you could argue that it isn’t all whites that they demand genocide for, if you count Jewish people as white. Then sure, there are exceptions. But otherwise, it’s brutally obvious what they have in mind.

    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/10/changing-faces/schoeller-photography

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  104. Art says:
    @Sherman
    Hey Genius

    "Conger up" s/b "conjure up".

    Peace
    Sherm

    “Conger up” s/b “conjure up”.

    You humble me — too bad you are not humbled by what your Jews do to the Palestinians.

    Think Peace — Art

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    Hey Genius

    It's not too difficult to humble you. In fact, it's so easy it's pathetic.

    With friends like you it's no wonder the Palestinians are so helpless.

    Peace
    Sherm

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  105. Che Guava says:
    @Anon
    I really like your some of your comments, what can one do with you?!? So..

    - our wonderful Pope. What about this: http://marymagdalen.blogspot.com? Father Ray Blake writes beautifully, his faith is luminous. Check out his post on why he didn't sign the filial correction.
    - Luther. Heretic. No heresies from you please, yuck, yuck. Stick to Catholic Church. If need be, rest assured, Catechism is clear that embracing invaders is not mandated. But always Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita aeterna! Lest you end a deathbed convert like Wilde. From his "Rome Unvisited":

    And here I set my face towards home,
    For all my pilgrimage is done,
    Although, methinks, yon blood-red sun,
    Marshals the way to holy Rome.

    -

    Appreciated reply. As always, have to be asking, why as ‘Anon’?

    I am comprehending the Latin.

    Repliies to me lately are always seem to be from ‘Anon’, or variation on that. I am never to doing it. Also not stupid, having experience as admin. on a site full of trolls, can seeing that it is not usually the same person.

    I have good experiences in diocesal and parish churches here, but am not liking Pope Francis.

    Have my own theory about him. His stupid actions and behaviour now are from guilt. He never stood against the worst of Operation Condor, in or out of Argentina, so he is now over-compensating.

    That may be too kind a diagnosis, he is actually seeming to be worse even than that, a rabid self-publicist and panderer to the mass media.

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  106. Tyrion says:
    @Art
    How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    It covers up Israeli interference in our election. It misdirects attention away from Israel.

    Say Sheldon Adelson- George Sores.

    Think Peace --- Art

    How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    It covers up Israeli interference in our election. It misdirects attention away from Israel.

    Say Sheldon Adelson- George Sores.

    Think Peace — Art

    …they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?

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    "they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?"

    The bullshit just oozes out of you, doesn't it??

    Two sides huh, one financed by Haim Saban and the other Sheldon Adelson, both of those guys are "one issue" guys, do you happen to know what that issue is??

    Adelson: US should drop atomic bomb on Iran
    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Adelson-US-should-drop-atomic-bomb-on-Iran-329641

    "Adelson then imagined what might happen if an American official were to call up an Iranian official, say “watch this,” and subsequently drop a nuclear bomb in the middle of the Iranian desert.
    "Then you say, ‘See! The next one is in the middle of Tehran. So, we mean business. You want to be wiped out? Go ahead and take a tough position and continue with your nuclear development. You want to be peaceful? Just reverse it all, and we will guarantee you that you can have a nuclear power plant for electricity purposes, energy purposes’," Adelson said."

    Adelson set to give over $100 million to Israel-supporting Trump
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/adelson-set-to-give-over-100-million-to-israel-supporting-trump/

    ‘Everything Hillary Clinton will do will always be for Israel’ — Saban warns the Republicans
    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/04/everything-clinton-republicans/


    Hillary Clinton Tells Israeli Billionaire and Mega-Donor She Will Support Israel, Fight Palestinian Movement
    https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/hillary-clinton-tells-israeli-billionaire-and-mega-donor-she-will-support-israel

    "Israeli-American Haim Saban is one of America's richest men, the owner of numerous media and entertainment outlets — and a big Democratic donor. When the Democratic National Committee needed a new building, he coughed up $7 million to fund it, “one of the largest known donations ever made to an American political party.”
    What does Saban want for all that money? “I’m a one-issue guy, and my issue is Israel,” he said."

    , @geokat62

    …they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?
     
    Exhibit 1,456,541 that these people truly believe The Dumb Goyim are, indeed, dumb goyim!

    Keep 'em coming, Tyrion is it? Is that Hebrew for "pulling the wool over The Dumb Goyim's eyes"?

    You're doing a fine job.
    , @Art

    Say Sheldon Adelson - George Soros.

    …they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?
     
    Exactly - Jews controlled BOTH sides! How sweet is that?

    Do you not get that - does you corrupted Jew brainstem not allow you to see the facts?

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Adelson owns the biggest newspaper in Israel. Soros is the preeminent Jew globalist on the world scene.
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  107. renfro says:

    ” Even as it admits Weinstein went too far or sought redress in the wrong way, it implies the validity of Jewish resentment”

    Time to do away with Jewish ‘resentment’.
    What do they resent?….that 75 million people died in WWII fighting Hitler?
    That the allies didn’t drop everything in WWII and put the Jews ahead of billions of other people under German bombing and occupation?
    That they the Chosen should have been the only humans that counted? Is that it?
    Or maybe its that after the war in 1945 2/3′s of the immigrants admitted to the US were Jews? Maybe it should have been “only Jews’ that were admitted.
    Or is it that ‘All the Gentiles On Earth’ didn’t rush to Germany to save them from the ‘German’ gentiles?
    Maybe they resent that Germany has paid them only 54 billion in reparations ,maybe they think they should have everything the Germans own forever and ever.
    Maybe they resent that the gentile US has only spent 1.2 trillion in aid and other assorted programs on the Jewish state.
    Do they resent that Jewish schools and buildings get 98% of all Homeland Security domestic funds for terrorism protection? Maybe they want the other 2% also.
    Do they resent that Jewish charity contribution to Israel are fully tax deductible while americans don’t get that privilege on their charitable contributions? Do they think they should have to pay no taxes ever because of the Nazis?

    Ungrateful parasites….sorry not sorry

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  108. Sherman says:
    @Art
    “Conger up” s/b “conjure up”.

    You humble me --- too bad you are not humbled by what your Jews do to the Palestinians.

    Think Peace --- Art

    Hey Genius

    It’s not too difficult to humble you. In fact, it’s so easy it’s pathetic.

    With friends like you it’s no wonder the Palestinians are so helpless.

    Peace
    Sherm

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    With friends like you it’s no wonder the Palestinians are so helpless.

    We the friends of Palestine, individually are weak - but together we are strong, and dedicated, and growing. Our goodness is your nightmare.

    Remember Jew – things go up and things go down. That is nature.

    We go about our business with a smile – you with an ever-weary attack on your lips emanating from your brainstem.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  109. geokat62 says:
    @uslabor
    "That jews have power far more than their numbers suggest, who doubts it ?
    80% of the world’s media are said to be in jewish hands."

    How did they achieve that power? Anybody?

    How did they achieve that power? Anybody?

    Here is one plausible explanation:

    [Prof. Kevin] MacDonald is best known for his trilogy that analyzes Judaism and Jewish culture from the perspective of evolutionary psychology, comprising A People That Shall Dwell Alone (1994), Separation and Its Discontents (1998), and The Culture of Critique (1998). He proposes that Judaism is a group evolutionary strategy to enhance the ability of Jews to out-compete non-Jews for resources…

    MacDonald’s most controversial claim is that a suite of traits which he attributes to Jews, including higher-than-average verbal intelligence and ethnocentricism, have culturally evolved to enhance the ability of Jews to out-compete non-Jews for resources. MacDonald believes this advantage has been used by a number of Jews to advance Jewish group interests and end potential antisemitism by either deliberately or inadvertently undermining the power of the European-derived Christian majorities in the Western world.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald

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  110. Anon-og says:
    @Tyrion

    How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    It covers up Israeli interference in our election. It misdirects attention away from Israel.

    Say Sheldon Adelson- George Sores.

    Think Peace — Art
     
    ...they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli...what type of Israeli inteference is that?

    “they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?”

    The bullshit just oozes out of you, doesn’t it??

    Two sides huh, one financed by Haim Saban and the other Sheldon Adelson, both of those guys are “one issue” guys, do you happen to know what that issue is??

    Adelson: US should drop atomic bomb on Iran

    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Adelson-US-should-drop-atomic-bomb-on-Iran-329641

    “Adelson then imagined what might happen if an American official were to call up an Iranian official, say “watch this,” and subsequently drop a nuclear bomb in the middle of the Iranian desert.
    “Then you say, ‘See! The next one is in the middle of Tehran. So, we mean business. You want to be wiped out? Go ahead and take a tough position and continue with your nuclear development. You want to be peaceful? Just reverse it all, and we will guarantee you that you can have a nuclear power plant for electricity purposes, energy purposes’,” Adelson said.”

    Adelson set to give over $100 million to Israel-supporting Trump

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/adelson-set-to-give-over-100-million-to-israel-supporting-trump/

    ‘Everything Hillary Clinton will do will always be for Israel’ — Saban warns the Republicans

    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/04/everything-clinton-republicans/

    Hillary Clinton Tells Israeli Billionaire and Mega-Donor She Will Support Israel, Fight Palestinian Movement

    https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/hillary-clinton-tells-israeli-billionaire-and-mega-donor-she-will-support-israel

    “Israeli-American Haim Saban is one of America’s richest men, the owner of numerous media and entertainment outlets — and a big Democratic donor. When the Democratic National Committee needed a new building, he coughed up $7 million to fund it, “one of the largest known donations ever made to an American political party.”
    What does Saban want for all that money? “I’m a one-issue guy, and my issue is Israel,” he said.”

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    Omg Jews don't care about civil society, they are so insular.

    Omg those 2 Jews give money to civil organisations! They are conspiring.

    Omg they disagree and are on opposing sides, now they really are conspiring!
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  111. renfro says:
    @Jean de Peyrelongue
    The minority running the US and the western world is much less than the famous 1% having a wealth above one million US$. It is even less than 1% of the "rich" minority.
    Among that that minority, the Jews are a majority. But having said that, having identified the major threat to the World, does not require to hate the Jewish community but to find a way to deprive them from their power.

    Hate towards that community is not the road to peace and actually, it strengthen the community. Their strength has its roots in the Financial system which gave them unlimited resources as it rests on a fiducial money. The only way to unseat that community is a major bankrupt that will break the Financial system and oblige the world to go back to a money based on gold.

    The problem with that is: people and countries might oppose that minority but none are willing to accept the loss of what they have. In doing so, they are supporting the minority and instead of accepting loosing some weight, they are going to loose their life as that minority is driving us to the Apocalypse.

    But having said that, having identified the major threat to the World, does not require to hate the Jewish community but to find a way to deprive them from their power.
    Hate towards that community is not the road to peace and actually, it strengthen the community.”

    I am not suggesting ‘hate’…I am suggesting refusal to keep tolerating the ‘Jewish entitlement’ and attitude that the world ‘owes them’ and that they are a ‘special people’..so ‘special’ that the US (and the world) must pay for and support a ‘Jewish State’ and extend ‘special privileges’ of any kind to Jews or to Israel.

    But lets talk about the Jewish ‘community’ in general terms and ‘human nature’.
    How many benefits flow to the ‘community’ thru the uber Zionist Jews? I could take up this whole page listing them. And you would see that many of them have been and are injurious to the US and average Americans. Human nature is such that most people don’t want to give up getting something for nothing…Jews in particular because they are imbibed with the belief that they are the world’s ‘victims’ and so why shouldn’t they be given extra of everything by the evil gentiles who victimized them? This is a common attitude…whether a Jew actively or passively or not at all supports Israel.

    I am not a psychiatrist (my sister in law is however) but common sense should tell anyone
    that the more we ‘legitimize and ‘encourage Jews idea of themselves as ‘entitled victims’ the more and more they will take advantage of that..
    I am pretty sure that you don’t cure paranoia or ‘spoiled brats’ by agreeing with them that they are indeed special and giving them anything they demand. I am pretty sure you don’t cure an outlaw state like Israel by agreeing that everyone is out to kill them and loading them up with money and weapons.

    The biggest motivators in humans are first survival then love, hate, fear of lose and desire for gain.

    I think it would be good if US Jews ‘felt some fear of lose’…of losing their welcome in the US, of losing their acceptance, of losing their protection of having their little ‘ feelings hurt’ such as the nonsense on college campuses and their whines about hurt feelings and feeling unloved and threatened because they promote Israel and other groups promote Palestine freedom.

    MAYBE then they would actually do something about that ‘tiny minority’ of treasonous Jews in their community. BUT as long as the ‘community’ gets only carrots/benefits from their US Jewish Fifth Column and no sticks they aren’t going to do anything.

    In case no one has ever noticed ‘collective punishment’ …no matter how we denounce it as unfair …IS the way of the world….the citizens, guilty or innocent always end up paying for their leaders evil or mistakes….so if the collective doesn’t want to suffer for their leaders actions they better get busy and start renouncing them and accept the Jew’s place as ‘equal to’ others instead of privileged ‘ above others.’

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    I understand fully what you are saying but aggression against the Jewish community strenghten it. The Jewish community needs to feel surrounded by ennemies to stay together and to remember that they are exceptional people: "God's choosen".

    The jewish community acts as a shield to protect the nucleus running the world.
    Those who need to be finger at, and putting into jail, that elite running the western world, are hiding themselves within the community, which is for them some kind of canon fodder. For them, the Shoa and Israel are just tools to maintain the Jewish community together. For them the worst crime for a jew is when he acts as a deserter and wants to be assimilated in the country where he lives. For the elite, Jews have to be paranoiac, and develop a feeling of revenge against all the Goyim.

    If we don't want to help that elite, we must not assault the Jewish community but help that community to get out of the getho in which they are living. We must help these people to discover the Truth about their history. They have been lied for too long.
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  112. geokat62 says:
    @Tyrion

    How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    It covers up Israeli interference in our election. It misdirects attention away from Israel.

    Say Sheldon Adelson- George Sores.

    Think Peace — Art
     
    ...they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli...what type of Israeli inteference is that?

    …they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?

    Exhibit 1,456,541 that these people truly believe The Dumb Goyim are, indeed, dumb goyim!

    Keep ‘em coming, Tyrion is it? Is that Hebrew for “pulling the wool over The Dumb Goyim’s eyes”?

    You’re doing a fine job.

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    Truth be told, shame on us for being stupid for so long. Article after article, site after site, I keep seeing the same tired,ridiculous comments and logic used by these people. They are merely sticking to the Hasbara that has served them well for so long.
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  113. renfro says:

    Back in the 50′s when I was a kid an associate of my father had a pet monkey….and this is a true story btw.
    The man had rescued the abused monkey from one of those traveling animal shows . He took the monkey every where with him….he told everyone the story of how he had saved the poor monkey and people were taken with the story and the cute monkey…..so much so that he and the monkey were allowed into stores and restaurants where pets wouldn’t normally be tolerated.
    All the monkey had to do was chatter and point and the man would give him whatever he wanted.

    One day my father remarked to me he thought the monkey was becoming dangerous…the man had brought him into his office and the monkey went wild, jumping on the secretary, throwing things off desks and the man couldn’t control him.

    Some time later we heard that the man was in the hospital. He had taught the monkey to do things like fetch cokes from the fridge. So one day the man was sitting on his porch and he told the monkey to go get them cokes. The monkey came back with the 2 cokes but didnt want to hand one over to the man. When the man tried to take one of the cokes the monkey attacked him…almost bite his ear off , scratched his face and eye. A neighbor in his yard heard his screams and was able to get the monkey off him,
    I cant remember, if I ever heard, what happened to the monkey but the man didn’t keep him after that.

    This is what happened with the US and the Jews/Jewish state ….the road to hell is paved with good intentions. This is what happens when there are ‘ no limits’ to one’s generosity and tolerance of the intolerable.

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    I have to step in here on behalf of the monkey and his kind. I spent a summer working in a monkey sanctuary and I was told that the reason pet monkeys become aggressive is because they reach puberty and can't fulfil their social and sexual instincts. Makes sense to me.
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  114. Anon-og says:
    @geokat62

    …they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?
     
    Exhibit 1,456,541 that these people truly believe The Dumb Goyim are, indeed, dumb goyim!

    Keep 'em coming, Tyrion is it? Is that Hebrew for "pulling the wool over The Dumb Goyim's eyes"?

    You're doing a fine job.

    Truth be told, shame on us for being stupid for so long. Article after article, site after site, I keep seeing the same tired,ridiculous comments and logic used by these people. They are merely sticking to the Hasbara that has served them well for so long.

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  115. Anon-og says:

    International campaign is criminalizing criticism of Israel as ‘antisemitism’

    Bulgaria’s cabinet just adopted the new, Israel-centric definition of “antisemitism.” This is the latest in the international campaign to change the meaning of the word as a means to suppress activism in support of Palestinian human rights. For details see:

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/iak-investigation-international-campaign-is-criminalizing-criticism-of-israel-as-antisemitism/

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  116. Art says:
    @Sherman
    Hey Genius

    It's not too difficult to humble you. In fact, it's so easy it's pathetic.

    With friends like you it's no wonder the Palestinians are so helpless.

    Peace
    Sherm

    With friends like you it’s no wonder the Palestinians are so helpless.

    We the friends of Palestine, individually are weak – but together we are strong, and dedicated, and growing. Our goodness is your nightmare.

    Remember Jew – things go up and things go down. That is nature.

    We go about our business with a smile – you with an ever-weary attack on your lips emanating from your brainstem.

    Think Peace — Art

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  117. Anon-og says:

    The term “anti-Semitism” brings a certain book to mind

    Plastic Words: The Tyranny of a Modular Language

    https://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Words-Tyranny-Modular-Language/dp/0271024925

    Development. “Project.” “Strategy.” “Problem.” These may seem like harmless words, but are they? German writer and linguist Uwe Poerksen calls these words “plastic words” because of their malleability and the uncanny way they are used to fit every circumstance. Like plastic Lego blocks, they are combinable and interchangeable. In the mouths of experts—politicians, professors, corporate officials, and planners—they are used over and over again to explain and justify plans and projects. In the 1940s Harry S. Truman made “underdevelopment” a keystone in U.S. foreign policy, and today the “developed” nations are dedicated to helping their “underdeveloped” neighbors. But who benefits from “development”? Who benefited from the housing “projects” of the 1960s and 1970s? And who among us does not worry when our leaders tell us they have a “strategy” for solving society’s “problems”?
    According to Poerksen, plastic words began as scientific words with specialized meanings. Many had been imported from the vernacular languages to the sciences, but he finds that in recent decades they have migrated back into the vernacular—stripped of their specialized meanings. They have international currency and appear repeatedly in political speeches, government reports, and academic conferences. They invade the media and even private conversation. They displace more precise words with words that sound scientific but actually blur meaning and disable common language.
    Poerksen traces the history of plastic words, establishes criteria for identifying them, and provides a tragicomic critique of the society that relies on them. He shows that when plastic words infiltrate a field of reality, they reorder it in their own image—hence their threat. They are building blocks for new models of reality that may seem utopian but that impoverish the world.

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  118. Art says:
    @Tyrion

    How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    It covers up Israeli interference in our election. It misdirects attention away from Israel.

    Say Sheldon Adelson- George Sores.

    Think Peace — Art
     
    ...they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli...what type of Israeli inteference is that?

    Say Sheldon Adelson – George Soros.

    …they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?

    Exactly – Jews controlled BOTH sides! How sweet is that?

    Do you not get that – does you corrupted Jew brainstem not allow you to see the facts?

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. Adelson owns the biggest newspaper in Israel. Soros is the preeminent Jew globalist on the world scene.

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    Hey Genius

    "Does you corrupted Jew" s/b "does your corrupted Jew".

    Peace
    Sherm

    P.S. How are the PORK and beans?
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  119. Anon-og says:

    wow just wow, this is so embarassing for us.

    “The state of Texas passed a law in May banning state entities from contracting with businesses that boycott Israel. The law, one of 21 passed in states around the country in the past few years, has been criticized by the American Civil Liberties Union as unconstitutional.”

    Houston Suburb Won’t Give Hurricane Relief To BDS Supporters

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/385628/houston-suburb-wont-give-hurricane-relief-to-bds-supporters/

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    Was just reading about that....here's the story

    October 19, 2017


    http://forward.com/fast-forward/385628/houston-suburb-wont-give-hurricane-relief-to-bds-supporters/?attribution=our-picks-1-title

    A Houston suburb will not approve grants to repair homes or businesses damaged in Hurricane Harvey if the applicant supports boycotting Israel.

    The city of Dickinson’s application form for storm damage repair funding includes a clause stating that “By executing this Agreement below, the Applicant verifies that the Applicant: (1) does not boycott Israel; and (2) will not boycott Israel during the term of this Agreement.”

    No other clauses about political affiliations or beliefs are included in the form.
    The state of Texas passed a law in May banning state entities from contracting with businesses that boycott Israel. The law, one of 21 passed in states around the country in the past few years, has been criticized by the American Civil Liberties Union as unconstitutional.

    Local TV news station KTRK reported that the damage Dickinson received “may be the worst of Harvey,” with more than 50 inches of rain in 72 hours. The widely-distributed photo of residents of a nursing home waiting to be rescued as floodwater reached their waists was taken in Dickinson.
    Calls to the offices of the mayor and the city secretary were not returned.
    , @Art
    Houston Suburb Won’t Give Hurricane Relief To BDS Supporters

    Hmm - where are the good Jews denouncing this injustice?

    Think Peace --- Art
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  120. polskijoe says:

    Another good article.

    Anti-semitism can be thrown at anyone. All political groups are scrambling for Jewish support or money.

    My suggestions would be to redefine:

    Anti-semite: someone who hates all semitic people (Jews, Arabs, etc) – obviously the amount is tiny.
    Anti-Talmudic: some who rightfully dislikes the Talmud.

    In the mean time anti-semite should be put in quotes until the definition is actually serious.

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  121. Sherman says:
    @Art

    Say Sheldon Adelson - George Soros.

    …they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?
     
    Exactly - Jews controlled BOTH sides! How sweet is that?

    Do you not get that - does you corrupted Jew brainstem not allow you to see the facts?

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. Adelson owns the biggest newspaper in Israel. Soros is the preeminent Jew globalist on the world scene.

    Hey Genius

    “Does you corrupted Jew” s/b “does your corrupted Jew”.

    Peace
    Sherm

    P.S. How are the PORK and beans?

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    “Does you corrupted Jew” s/b “does your corrupted Jew”.

    Now I am embarrassed for my grammar failures - thankfully it is only words.

    If only you Jews were embarrassed by your treatment of the Palestinians.

    What cultural defect, allows you Jews to ignore all your wrong doings?

    Is it, that your upbringing was so traumatic. When were you first terrorized with the lie, that everyone wanted to kill you. Four five? I fear your little brain never got the chance to normally develop. You never experienced the full panoply of human emotions. Sad – so sad!

    Think Peace --- Art
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  122. @Tyrion

    Sure. But do you ever ask yourself: Why that particular accusation rather than another? Why? Because Corbyn is pro-Palestinian and has been for a long time. They’re specifically signalling him to back off that issue. They’re doing the same with Trump; after all, why is it called Russia-gate rather than some other -gate? So naturally they would try to attack Corbyn for ‘anti-semitism’ – this is all about Project Israel.
     
    1. It is not that 'particular' an accusation. Other accusations include misogyny, unilateral disarmament, communism, his stance on Venezuela, corruption among unions, his well-heeled upbringing, his disloyalty to his party colleagues etc etc.

    The key being that they need at least an element of truth and they need to be generally considered a bad thing.

    2. How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    Putin has been very fair with Israel. He seems to judge it according to the global standard, as he wants Russia to be judged.

    Obama, on the other hand, tried to hold Israel to the much higher and much more restrictive standard that the resentful left holds all white people, or even whatever they can identify as the white and therefore bad side, in any conflict.

    The idea that Jews acting in Israeli interests would want to harm Trump, push him from Putin and use Obama as a paragon is nuts. They would have to be beyond stupid.

    But then for many of the commenters on this site anti-Semitism seems to consist of identifying whatever they happen to dislike and then somehow believing that the Jews did it.

    1. Oh? And how many Labour Party members lately have been subjected to an inquiry by their own party for their ‘stance on Venezuela’? Exactly none. But at least three member–all on very specious pretenses–have now been subjected to just such a colonoscopy because of ‘anti-semitism’.

    2. I didn’t say Corbyn-gate is about Russia-gate; I said it’s like Russia-gate, meaning: an evidence-free smear-campaign meant to intimidate both of them, respectively, into backing off of an issue they have loudly professed to care about. But FYI, there are indeed ‘big Jews’ involved in both operations. As far as Putin is concerned, I know he has a fan club in Israel. Almost a quarter of the Israeli population is from Russia (or some other former SSR), so he’s got a built-in advantage. But the neocons and the money-changers want him gone so they can get at Russia again.

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    1. Oh? And how many Labour Party members lately have been subjected to an inquiry by their own party for their ‘stance on Venezuela’? Exactly none. But at least three member–all on very specious pretenses–have now been subjected to just such a colonoscopy because of ‘anti-semitism’.
     
    People are constantly losing their jobs for crimes against progressivism. Whether they transgress on race, religion, sexuality or whatever. That these people didn't lose their jobs, when they clearly would have, had the offended been of any other group bar the native, is proof of my point.

    The Labour party has decided to become the ethnic grievance party. It is unsuprising that the Labour party's enemies should think it vulnerable to charges of anti-Semitism.

    However, those charges didn't stick as the superseding fact is that anti-Semitism, bar the occasional native loser and they are very occasional, is the province of Muslims in Britain and Muslims, being brown and less competent, trump Jews in the progressive hierarchy.


    But the neocons and the money-changers want him gone so they can get at Russia again.
     
    Billionaire Jew Bernie Ecclestone was publically quoted as wishing Putin was put in charge of Europe. I'm sure he was not one hundred percent serious but it rather goes against your fantasy.

    As I said before. Anti-Semites tend to start off with things they don't like and then just blame Jews. It is exactly what deranged feminists do with the patriarchy. Whatever the woman doesn't like, even about herself, she will blame on one simple oppressor. There certainly seems to be a shared psychology.

    Anyway, with that I'm done. I've read and answered the commenters on this site as regards Jews and I've come out more proud to be Jewish than before. I made an honest test-case as I am incredibly critical of most Jewish opinion formers, but it seems that the arguments here are way off.

    I find a lot of ressentiment and very little substance. It mostly seems to be deranged idiots with hoarded collections of links screaming the same nonsense into the ether time and time again. Really, they are clearly quite mad and that is before they even start accusing people of being paid Israeli operatives .

    Now back to the real world, where colleagues and such like idly allege that Trump is controlled by Putin or whatever the ridiculous politically correct conspiracy theory of the day is )-:.

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  123. Wally says: • Website
    @SolontoCroesus

    kike
     
    Hey -- Hitler wrote in English!
    Who knew?

    Indeed, making fake English ‘translations’ of German is a very old trick used by lying Zionists.
    The examples are legion.

    Also recall that ‘up rooting’ & ‘evacuation’ in German is always claimed to mean ‘extermination’.

    Jews weasel word it by claiming the Germans all spoke in “code words”.

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the ridiculous ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

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    How would you, speaker of fluent German that you are,* translate the term "Jüdlein," which is the term that Kaufmann translated as "kike"? Murphy translates it as "little Jew," but I don't think that really delivers the punch that Hitler sought in the original.

    ====

    * You, after all, did think that "Verschiedene" was the name of a KZ, rather than a reference to "various" concentration camps.
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  124. joe webb says:
    @Art
    How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    It covers up Israeli interference in our election. It misdirects attention away from Israel.

    Say Sheldon Adelson- George Sores.

    Think Peace --- Art

    think war. Jw

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  125. @renfro
    But having said that, having identified the major threat to the World, does not require to hate the Jewish community but to find a way to deprive them from their power.
    Hate towards that community is not the road to peace and actually, it strengthen the community.''


    I am not suggesting 'hate'...I am suggesting refusal to keep tolerating the 'Jewish entitlement' and attitude that the world 'owes them' and that they are a 'special people'..so 'special' that the US (and the world) must pay for and support a 'Jewish State' and extend 'special privileges' of any kind to Jews or to Israel.

    But lets talk about the Jewish 'community' in general terms and 'human nature'.
    How many benefits flow to the 'community' thru the uber Zionist Jews? I could take up this whole page listing them. And you would see that many of them have been and are injurious to the US and average Americans. Human nature is such that most people don't want to give up getting something for nothing...Jews in particular because they are imbibed with the belief that they are the world's 'victims' and so why shouldn't they be given extra of everything by the evil gentiles who victimized them? This is a common attitude...whether a Jew actively or passively or not at all supports Israel.

    I am not a psychiatrist (my sister in law is however) but common sense should tell anyone
    that the more we 'legitimize and 'encourage Jews idea of themselves as 'entitled victims' the more and more they will take advantage of that..
    I am pretty sure that you don't cure paranoia or 'spoiled brats' by agreeing with them that they are indeed special and giving them anything they demand. I am pretty sure you don't cure an outlaw state like Israel by agreeing that everyone is out to kill them and loading them up with money and weapons.

    The biggest motivators in humans are first survival then love, hate, fear of lose and desire for gain.

    I think it would be good if US Jews 'felt some fear of lose'...of losing their welcome in the US, of losing their acceptance, of losing their protection of having their little ' feelings hurt' such as the nonsense on college campuses and their whines about hurt feelings and feeling unloved and threatened because they promote Israel and other groups promote Palestine freedom.

    MAYBE then they would actually do something about that 'tiny minority' of treasonous Jews in their community. BUT as long as the 'community' gets only carrots/benefits from their US Jewish Fifth Column and no sticks they aren't going to do anything.

    In case no one has ever noticed 'collective punishment' ...no matter how we denounce it as unfair ...IS the way of the world....the citizens, guilty or innocent always end up paying for their leaders evil or mistakes....so if the collective doesn't want to suffer for their leaders actions they better get busy and start renouncing them and accept the Jew's place as 'equal to' others instead of privileged ' above others.'

    I understand fully what you are saying but aggression against the Jewish community strenghten it. The Jewish community needs to feel surrounded by ennemies to stay together and to remember that they are exceptional people: “God’s choosen”.

    The jewish community acts as a shield to protect the nucleus running the world.
    Those who need to be finger at, and putting into jail, that elite running the western world, are hiding themselves within the community, which is for them some kind of canon fodder. For them, the Shoa and Israel are just tools to maintain the Jewish community together. For them the worst crime for a jew is when he acts as a deserter and wants to be assimilated in the country where he lives. For the elite, Jews have to be paranoiac, and develop a feeling of revenge against all the Goyim.

    If we don’t want to help that elite, we must not assault the Jewish community but help that community to get out of the getho in which they are living. We must help these people to discover the Truth about their history. They have been lied for too long.

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    The jewish community acts as a shield to protect the nucleus
     
    Indeed.

    Compare the Star of David to the Swastika.

    SoD has a perimeter of 'spear-points' formed of 6 triangles -- the "community" -- that, in total, may encompass less space than the hexagon -- the rulers?? the Land, which is be-all and end-all of zionist ideology?? -- they surround; there is no break in the barrier between the central hexagon and the 'outside world.' The 'spear points' are aggressive, not open and welcoming. Another view of SoD sees it as two triangles inseparably interlaced; again, no points of entry to either the outer breastworks of triangles nor the inner hexagon.

    Swastika, on the other hand, has no closed spaces, it is wide open, welcoming, but with bent arms offering shelter to those gathered around the central Cross.

    , @renfro
    I also understand where you are coming from but have to both agree and disagree.
    I agree that if Jews feel threatened they become more tribal.
    However I disagree that it is realistically possible to ‘help’ the Jews as a group to come to their senses so to speak and cease the tribal attitudes that are detrimental to others interest and rights.
    Here’s why…
    First you are up against 2000 years of ingrained beliefs.
    Second ..and this may be news to some…but neuroscience has proved that *structural changes occur in the brain when subjected to stress (like PTSD) …..or ‘repeated influences’…i.e….beliefs and or teachings repeated over and over within a group.
    Third..according to Duke University neuroscientist findings these structural changes in the brain are ‘inheritable’…can be genetically passed down thru generations.
    Humans aren’t that different from animals–for instance in experiments with animals researchers found that if they expose animals to a certain odor like cherry blossoms while giving them a eltroshock that when those animals reproduce and their offspring totally removed from the mother at birth….that offspring will have the same fear response to the smell of cherry blossoms the mother had.
    All of this research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations
    The only good news in this discovery is that the brain can be rewired to compensate for the altered structural of the brain…BUT it takes years and years of therapy and retraining.
    To illustrate my point about how this relates to the average Jew consider Shomo Sands, the Jewish
    historian who wrote “The Invention of the Jewish People’ and he “Wandering Who”.
    Sands announced that he was no longer a Jew …iow he renounced any Jewish ‘identity for himself because he found the Jewish state repugnant.
    BUT…despite his extremely logical and analytical brain function…another part of his brain couldnt let go of the centuries long ingrained Jewish idea of complete Jewish innocence and their irrational persecution by the ‘diseased others’. As he he wrote ..in how ‘I Ceased to be a Jew’.
    “I don’t write for anti-Semites, I regard them as totally ignorant or people who suffer from an incurable disease,”
    Also consider the liberal and anti Zionist Jews like Phil Weiss, Max Blumenthal,MJ Rosenberg—–They all go into full out panic and censorship of anything that touches on or attempts to examine Jewish ‘culture’ and how it may have brought on itself some of its travails or given rise to the anti others Zionism .
    So really what I’m saying is you cant ‘fix’ the Jews, they cant even fix themselves….and there are no signs they want to….and the world doesn’t have 2000 years or even 20 years to devote to therapy and tip toeing around the Jewish Fifth Column and Israel to protect the good Jews from the bad Jews or worry about their hurt feelings or their nightmares. They have projected their nightmares on the world, the US, Palestine, Iran, etc.etc..it has to end.
    A little fear is a healthy thing…it might not change your thinking or opinions but it can change your actions and choices.
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  126. helena says:
    @renfro
    Back in the 50's when I was a kid an associate of my father had a pet monkey....and this is a true story btw.
    The man had rescued the abused monkey from one of those traveling animal shows . He took the monkey every where with him....he told everyone the story of how he had saved the poor monkey and people were taken with the story and the cute monkey.....so much so that he and the monkey were allowed into stores and restaurants where pets wouldn't normally be tolerated.
    All the monkey had to do was chatter and point and the man would give him whatever he wanted.

    One day my father remarked to me he thought the monkey was becoming dangerous...the man had brought him into his office and the monkey went wild, jumping on the secretary, throwing things off desks and the man couldn't control him.

    Some time later we heard that the man was in the hospital. He had taught the monkey to do things like fetch cokes from the fridge. So one day the man was sitting on his porch and he told the monkey to go get them cokes. The monkey came back with the 2 cokes but didnt want to hand one over to the man. When the man tried to take one of the cokes the monkey attacked him...almost bite his ear off , scratched his face and eye. A neighbor in his yard heard his screams and was able to get the monkey off him,
    I cant remember, if I ever heard, what happened to the monkey but the man didn't keep him after that.

    This is what happened with the US and the Jews/Jewish state ....the road to hell is paved with good intentions. This is what happens when there are ' no limits' to one's generosity and tolerance of the intolerable.

    I have to step in here on behalf of the monkey and his kind. I spent a summer working in a monkey sanctuary and I was told that the reason pet monkeys become aggressive is because they reach puberty and can’t fulfil their social and sexual instincts. Makes sense to me.

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  127. renfro says:
    @Anon-og
    wow just wow, this is so embarassing for us.

    "The state of Texas passed a law in May banning state entities from contracting with businesses that boycott Israel. The law, one of 21 passed in states around the country in the past few years, has been criticized by the American Civil Liberties Union as unconstitutional."

    Houston Suburb Won’t Give Hurricane Relief To BDS Supporters
    http://forward.com/fast-forward/385628/houston-suburb-wont-give-hurricane-relief-to-bds-supporters/

    Was just reading about that….here’s the story

    October 19, 2017

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/385628/houston-suburb-wont-give-hurricane-relief-to-bds-supporters/?attribution=our-picks-1-title

    A Houston suburb will not approve grants to repair homes or businesses damaged in Hurricane Harvey if the applicant supports boycotting Israel.

    The city of Dickinson’s application form for storm damage repair funding includes a clause stating that “By executing this Agreement below, the Applicant verifies that the Applicant: (1) does not boycott Israel; and (2) will not boycott Israel during the term of this Agreement.”

    No other clauses about political affiliations or beliefs are included in the form.
    The state of Texas passed a law in May banning state entities from contracting with businesses that boycott Israel. The law, one of 21 passed in states around the country in the past few years, has been criticized by the American Civil Liberties Union as unconstitutional.

    Local TV news station KTRK reported that the damage Dickinson received “may be the worst of Harvey,” with more than 50 inches of rain in 72 hours. The widely-distributed photo of residents of a nursing home waiting to be rescued as floodwater reached their waists was taken in Dickinson.
    Calls to the offices of the mayor and the city secretary were not returned.

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  128. Tyrion says:
    @Anon-og
    "they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?"

    The bullshit just oozes out of you, doesn't it??

    Two sides huh, one financed by Haim Saban and the other Sheldon Adelson, both of those guys are "one issue" guys, do you happen to know what that issue is??

    Adelson: US should drop atomic bomb on Iran
    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Adelson-US-should-drop-atomic-bomb-on-Iran-329641

    "Adelson then imagined what might happen if an American official were to call up an Iranian official, say “watch this,” and subsequently drop a nuclear bomb in the middle of the Iranian desert.
    "Then you say, ‘See! The next one is in the middle of Tehran. So, we mean business. You want to be wiped out? Go ahead and take a tough position and continue with your nuclear development. You want to be peaceful? Just reverse it all, and we will guarantee you that you can have a nuclear power plant for electricity purposes, energy purposes’," Adelson said."

    Adelson set to give over $100 million to Israel-supporting Trump
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/adelson-set-to-give-over-100-million-to-israel-supporting-trump/

    ‘Everything Hillary Clinton will do will always be for Israel’ — Saban warns the Republicans
    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/04/everything-clinton-republicans/


    Hillary Clinton Tells Israeli Billionaire and Mega-Donor She Will Support Israel, Fight Palestinian Movement
    https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/hillary-clinton-tells-israeli-billionaire-and-mega-donor-she-will-support-israel

    "Israeli-American Haim Saban is one of America's richest men, the owner of numerous media and entertainment outlets — and a big Democratic donor. When the Democratic National Committee needed a new building, he coughed up $7 million to fund it, “one of the largest known donations ever made to an American political party.”
    What does Saban want for all that money? “I’m a one-issue guy, and my issue is Israel,” he said."

    Omg Jews don’t care about civil society, they are so insular.

    Omg those 2 Jews give money to civil organisations! They are conspiring.

    Omg they disagree and are on opposing sides, now they really are conspiring!

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    Stop being such a Jew ........

    "they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?"

    The biggest donors on each side were Israelis and you already knew that, so that's the type of Israeli interference that it was.

    , @anon
    Poll: Two thirds of Americans favor keeping Iran nuke deal
    Survey reveals partisan splits over whether US should remain in nuclear pact, with 80% of Democrats in favor of staying, compared to 48% of Republicans
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-two-thirds-of-americans-favor-keeping-iran-nuke-deal/

    John Podhoretz thinks the breaking of the deal is in American interest and is supported by each and every American
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  129. Art says:
    @Sherman
    Hey Genius

    "Does you corrupted Jew" s/b "does your corrupted Jew".

    Peace
    Sherm

    P.S. How are the PORK and beans?

    “Does you corrupted Jew” s/b “does your corrupted Jew”.

    Now I am embarrassed for my grammar failures – thankfully it is only words.

    If only you Jews were embarrassed by your treatment of the Palestinians.

    What cultural defect, allows you Jews to ignore all your wrong doings?

    Is it, that your upbringing was so traumatic. When were you first terrorized with the lie, that everyone wanted to kill you. Four five? I fear your little brain never got the chance to normally develop. You never experienced the full panoply of human emotions. Sad – so sad!

    Think Peace — Art

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  130. Art says:
    @Anon-og
    wow just wow, this is so embarassing for us.

    "The state of Texas passed a law in May banning state entities from contracting with businesses that boycott Israel. The law, one of 21 passed in states around the country in the past few years, has been criticized by the American Civil Liberties Union as unconstitutional."

    Houston Suburb Won’t Give Hurricane Relief To BDS Supporters
    http://forward.com/fast-forward/385628/houston-suburb-wont-give-hurricane-relief-to-bds-supporters/

    Houston Suburb Won’t Give Hurricane Relief To BDS Supporters

    Hmm – where are the good Jews denouncing this injustice?

    Think Peace — Art

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  131. Tyrion says:
    @Seamus Padraig
    1. Oh? And how many Labour Party members lately have been subjected to an inquiry by their own party for their 'stance on Venezuela'? Exactly none. But at least three member--all on very specious pretenses--have now been subjected to just such a colonoscopy because of 'anti-semitism'.

    2. I didn't say Corbyn-gate is about Russia-gate; I said it's like Russia-gate, meaning: an evidence-free smear-campaign meant to intimidate both of them, respectively, into backing off of an issue they have loudly professed to care about. But FYI, there are indeed 'big Jews' involved in both operations. As far as Putin is concerned, I know he has a fan club in Israel. Almost a quarter of the Israeli population is from Russia (or some other former SSR), so he's got a built-in advantage. But the neocons and the money-changers want him gone so they can get at Russia again.

    1. Oh? And how many Labour Party members lately have been subjected to an inquiry by their own party for their ‘stance on Venezuela’? Exactly none. But at least three member–all on very specious pretenses–have now been subjected to just such a colonoscopy because of ‘anti-semitism’.

    People are constantly losing their jobs for crimes against progressivism. Whether they transgress on race, religion, sexuality or whatever. That these people didn’t lose their jobs, when they clearly would have, had the offended been of any other group bar the native, is proof of my point.

    The Labour party has decided to become the ethnic grievance party. It is unsuprising that the Labour party’s enemies should think it vulnerable to charges of anti-Semitism.

    However, those charges didn’t stick as the superseding fact is that anti-Semitism, bar the occasional native loser and they are very occasional, is the province of Muslims in Britain and Muslims, being brown and less competent, trump Jews in the progressive hierarchy.

    But the neocons and the money-changers want him gone so they can get at Russia again.

    Billionaire Jew Bernie Ecclestone was publically quoted as wishing Putin was put in charge of Europe. I’m sure he was not one hundred percent serious but it rather goes against your fantasy.

    As I said before. Anti-Semites tend to start off with things they don’t like and then just blame Jews. It is exactly what deranged feminists do with the patriarchy. Whatever the woman doesn’t like, even about herself, she will blame on one simple oppressor. There certainly seems to be a shared psychology.

    Anyway, with that I’m done. I’ve read and answered the commenters on this site as regards Jews and I’ve come out more proud to be Jewish than before. I made an honest test-case as I am incredibly critical of most Jewish opinion formers, but it seems that the arguments here are way off.

    I find a lot of ressentiment and very little substance. It mostly seems to be deranged idiots with hoarded collections of links screaming the same nonsense into the ether time and time again. Really, they are clearly quite mad and that is before they even start accusing people of being paid Israeli operatives .

    Now back to the real world, where colleagues and such like idly allege that Trump is controlled by Putin or whatever the ridiculous politically correct conspiracy theory of the day is )-:.

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    The difference between Jews and other groups, with regard to ostracism as a penalty, is that Jews seem to have originated, perfected, and disseminated the techniques, at least in the quasi-democratic post-Enlightenment world. When I was a kid there was no such thing as being forced to undergo "sensitivity training" or "diversity training" or "gender equity training." The idea of "re-educating" people who hold "incorrect" views is a Communist idea and like most of those, has been mainly promoted by Jews, using their wealth to incent politicians to go along. Similarly, the increasing call to ostracize and ruin those found 'guilty' of 'hate' seems totally Jewish to me. Sure, many blacks and women will go along with it, but mainly because it is understood that it won't be used against them and the grant money will be there for those who sign on. I don't see Jews as INNATELY disposed to any disagreeable behavior and I oppose any discriminatory measures against Jews, but I reserve the right to sociologize about their group politics, and I think the need for discussion is urgent.
    , @Art
    Anti-Semites tend to start off with things they don’t like and then just blame Jews.

    Once you have been called an anti-Semite (which takes very little) and feel all the venom that goes with it - one tends to get one's back up, and thus give no quarter to whinny half-truths.

    It is true - Jews bring things down on themselves. I think that it is their upbringing. By the age of five they are terrorized with the notion that everyone wants to kill them – repeated trauma in youth never leaves one. What a sick culture.

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @renfro
    I was going to make a comment to you but first decided to review your previous comments.....that got me side tracked.

    So what I want to ask you now is about this comment:

    "Finally, from what I genuinely consider a reasonably objective and dispassionate position, I believe that Jews have been a net benefit to the West, and the only people who disagree mostly blame ephemeral, hidden forces while ignoring real world accomplishments. Indeed, it is all but impossible to imagine the West without very signficant Jewish influence.''

    I am not being snarky in asking you to list specifically the Jewish accomplishments and influence you think have so contributed to the western world....I want to know what you think they are or have been told they are.

    I have asked this question of everyone who has claimed this and so far no one has ever replied with a list of Jewish influences that made the western world what it is.

    So if you can provide an answer you will be the first to ever do so in my long 15 year involvement in Israel/Palestine and the Jews.
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  132. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @turtle
    Arabs are Semitic humans.

    Yes, but the word ‘anti-Semitic’ entered the language in the 19th century to categorize people who dislike Jews. Admittedly it’s confusing, but it’s a poor defense to argue that X is not an anti-Semite because he is himself an Arab and therefore a Semite. The obvious question is how he feels about Jews. But it seems to me that we need a distinction between irrational hate and principled opposition. When Jews complain about the Catholic church, “Islamofascism” or ‘born-again bigots’ they are never accused of hate-mongering, at least not in mainstream publications. I suggest that whoever practices ethnic politics opens himself up to the possibility of fair and honorable critique, as well as the dishonorable kind.

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    Yes, but the word ‘anti-Semitic’ entered the language in the 19th century to categorize people who dislike Jews.
     
    Incorrect.

    "anti-semitic" was applied to Spanish persecution of Moors/Muslims in the 15th century.


    The appearance of the word "antisemite" is frequently attributed to Wilhelm Marr and his 1879-ish pamphlet, "The Victory of Judaism over Germanism." Dr. MacDonald was at the vanguard of posting an English translation of Marr's pamphlet; it can be found here: http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Marr-Text-English.pdf

    MacDonald's comments on the modernity of Marr's themes can be found here:
    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Marr.html

    What you will not find is use of the word "anti-Semitism" in the text of Marr's (1879) pamphlet.

    On the other hand, Benzion Netanyahu's opus maximus, The Origins of the Inquisition in Fifteenth Century Spain, dates the first instance of anti-Semitism to the Sixth Century BC, when Jews, who were hired as mercenaries by the Persians to guard Persia's newly-annexed Egyptian territories. Benzion writes observes that Egyptians must have been "seething with resentment" at having been conquered, and unaccountably transferred that resentment to Jews, who had been friends of Persia since Persia obtained Jewish liberation.
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  133. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Tyrion

    1. Oh? And how many Labour Party members lately have been subjected to an inquiry by their own party for their ‘stance on Venezuela’? Exactly none. But at least three member–all on very specious pretenses–have now been subjected to just such a colonoscopy because of ‘anti-semitism’.
     
    People are constantly losing their jobs for crimes against progressivism. Whether they transgress on race, religion, sexuality or whatever. That these people didn't lose their jobs, when they clearly would have, had the offended been of any other group bar the native, is proof of my point.

    The Labour party has decided to become the ethnic grievance party. It is unsuprising that the Labour party's enemies should think it vulnerable to charges of anti-Semitism.

    However, those charges didn't stick as the superseding fact is that anti-Semitism, bar the occasional native loser and they are very occasional, is the province of Muslims in Britain and Muslims, being brown and less competent, trump Jews in the progressive hierarchy.


    But the neocons and the money-changers want him gone so they can get at Russia again.
     
    Billionaire Jew Bernie Ecclestone was publically quoted as wishing Putin was put in charge of Europe. I'm sure he was not one hundred percent serious but it rather goes against your fantasy.

    As I said before. Anti-Semites tend to start off with things they don't like and then just blame Jews. It is exactly what deranged feminists do with the patriarchy. Whatever the woman doesn't like, even about herself, she will blame on one simple oppressor. There certainly seems to be a shared psychology.

    Anyway, with that I'm done. I've read and answered the commenters on this site as regards Jews and I've come out more proud to be Jewish than before. I made an honest test-case as I am incredibly critical of most Jewish opinion formers, but it seems that the arguments here are way off.

    I find a lot of ressentiment and very little substance. It mostly seems to be deranged idiots with hoarded collections of links screaming the same nonsense into the ether time and time again. Really, they are clearly quite mad and that is before they even start accusing people of being paid Israeli operatives .

    Now back to the real world, where colleagues and such like idly allege that Trump is controlled by Putin or whatever the ridiculous politically correct conspiracy theory of the day is )-:.

    The difference between Jews and other groups, with regard to ostracism as a penalty, is that Jews seem to have originated, perfected, and disseminated the techniques, at least in the quasi-democratic post-Enlightenment world. When I was a kid there was no such thing as being forced to undergo “sensitivity training” or “diversity training” or “gender equity training.” The idea of “re-educating” people who hold “incorrect” views is a Communist idea and like most of those, has been mainly promoted by Jews, using their wealth to incent politicians to go along. Similarly, the increasing call to ostracize and ruin those found ‘guilty’ of ‘hate’ seems totally Jewish to me. Sure, many blacks and women will go along with it, but mainly because it is understood that it won’t be used against them and the grant money will be there for those who sign on. I don’t see Jews as INNATELY disposed to any disagreeable behavior and I oppose any discriminatory measures against Jews, but I reserve the right to sociologize about their group politics, and I think the need for discussion is urgent.

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    The problem is that the game is rigged so that it is not possible to discuss without being labelled anti-Semitic. antigentile, you see, the hyphen and capital letter do not spring out of the computer. So you can reserve your right but it has no current public currency.
    , @Art

    I don’t see Jews as INNATELY disposed to any disagreeable behavior and I oppose any discriminatory measures against Jews, but I reserve the right to sociologize about their group politics, and I think the need for discussion is urgent.
     
    At some point one has to take a stance against tribal Jews. They will take over your freedom if you do not.

    The rational stance is to ostracize - to push away – to NOT assemble with those who are antagonistic to us. This is moral because it does no overt harm.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  134. Che Guava says:
    @Wally
    Incitatus, in a desperate state of panic, you said:
    "Spending too much time with Wally and the peacock S2C?"

    Then of course, I guess the USSR 'exterminated' us since Kruschev said:
    "We will bury you".

    Here's my challenge to you and all irrational, anti science Zionists:

    Give us your physical proof of the alleged '6M Jews, 5M others & gas chambers'.

    Remember, we're talking about an alleged 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    BTW, here's just a few of the countless fake 'holocaust' photos to feast over:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11427
    Only liars use fakes.
    debate us here: www.forum.codoh.com if you're not afraid.

    Ah, Wally, you are brave.

    My disbelief was to start after reading Jerzy Koczinsky’s Painted Bird. Sure, treatment of Red Army soldiers is seeming accurate. Most of the rest a fantasy.

    Also, Slaughterhouse 5 by Vonnegut, he was there in Dresden as a P.O.W.at the time of the fire-bombing, but some people are always to rubbish that part of his novel.

    WTF, HE WAS THERE, DIRECT EXPERIENCE.

    Later than that, fools are denying the figures for deaths, collected by the German government, as meticulously as they were able, given so many incinerated in shelters basements, above ground. Vonnegut (much respected, appreciated, and RIP or Heaven to him) made an honest estimate. It is close to that of the German govt. at the time.

    In between, was living, for study in a ‘western country’, at the time, the pulp
    tsanslations of Israeli fake opression porn.

    The genre is even having a name, I am forgetting it, but it is clearly a lie.

    And aJl of tihose novels pretend -to present a truth, but are actualtually having a diisclaimer in small print ‘this is fiction’.

    Returning to Japan, yearr ago, my suburban video barn was to have many Jewish made and inpired viovence.porn movies, like ‘Ilsa, she.wole of the SS’.

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  135. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    Indeed, making fake English 'translations' of German is a very old trick used by lying Zionists.
    The examples are legion.

    Also recall that 'up rooting' & 'evacuation' in German is always claimed to mean 'extermination'.

    Jews weasel word it by claiming the Germans all spoke in "code words".

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the ridiculous 'holocaust' storyline is the message.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com
     

    How would you, speaker of fluent German that you are,* translate the term “Jüdlein,” which is the term that Kaufmann translated as “kike”? Murphy translates it as “little Jew,” but I don’t think that really delivers the punch that Hitler sought in the original.

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    * You, after all, did think that “Verschiedene” was the name of a KZ, rather than a reference to “various” concentration camps.

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    I don’t think that really delivers the punch that Hitler sought in the original.
     
    How do you know what "punch" Hitler "sought"?

    Lots of people think they know what Hitler sought/thought/planned/schemed, based solely on their own projections.

    For example, Professor David Engel, scholar at USHMM who has taught Holocaust for >25 years at prestigious universities in US, Moscow and Israel, says this of Hitler:


    "Think about it: The common image of Hitler, when he was alive and for decades after his death, was of someone who was all rage, all emotion, all desire, but no intellect, no thought.
    Hitler was widely presumed, in his own time and afterward, to have been interested in nothing more than power for its own sake.
    Very often he was depicted as a sort of empty-headed egomaniac who wanted to control the world only to satisfy his own vanity, his own ambition.
    Those of you who have seen Charlie Chaplin's classic film, "The Great Dictator," made in 1940 [actually, made in 1939; hit the theaters in 1940] will understand what I mean: Recall the scene where the Hitler character plays with his beach ball in the shape of a globe, batting it up and down, taking enormous pleasure in having the world as his plaything, and you will understand the impression that many of Hitler's contemporaries had of him."
     
    How to unpack this in 200 words?

    The most obvious thing to mention is that Engel relied on a propaganda film, Chaplin's The Great Dictator, to support his claim that "Hitler was an egomaniac who wanted to control the world."
    We can prove -- from Jewish sources -- that Chaplin was a propaganda operative in the Anglo-Jewish camp -- Benjamin Ginsberg states this in his book, "How The Jews Defeated Hitler," and Chaplin's link to British propaganda agents and Communists are revealed in Ben McIntyre's "Operation Mincemeat."
    Thus, reliance on a propaganda film as evidence of Hitler's thinking processes -- or lack of same -- is a circular argument, as substantial as the air in Chaplin's beach ball.

    Furthermore, one can point to Lloyd George's comments about Hitler after meeting him in Germany; to Winston Churchill's own estimation of Hitler's passion for his nation and people, and to Herbert Hoover's notes on his meeting with Hitler in 1938, when he congratulated Hitler on having so significantly improved German housing and the German economy (see Freedom Betrayed).

    In the prequel to this claim, Engel explained that the "understanding" that is key to Hitler's thinking is that "Jews are a pathogen, a mortal danger to continued life on earth thus every Jew on earth must be killed in order to save humanity," and that "the leaders of the Third Reich regarded killing Jews as one of the fundamental reasons for their government's existence."

    (Coincidentally, Sebastian Haffner makes the same claims, in almost precisely the same words as Engel, in "The Meaning of Hitler." Haffner left Germany in 1938 with his Jewish girlfriend, who was carrying his child. After a crash course to learn English, Haffner found work with British Foreign Service (which as all UF members know, was exquisitely honest in its communications about Germany 1933 - 1945 )

    So, dear anon, you're going to have to at least match Professor David Engel's level of proof for "Hitler's thinking" -- maybe a line from the Why We Fight anti-German propaganda films written by Jewish Communists??

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  136. @Anon
    Yes, but the word 'anti-Semitic' entered the language in the 19th century to categorize people who dislike Jews. Admittedly it's confusing, but it's a poor defense to argue that X is not an anti-Semite because he is himself an Arab and therefore a Semite. The obvious question is how he feels about Jews. But it seems to me that we need a distinction between irrational hate and principled opposition. When Jews complain about the Catholic church, "Islamofascism" or 'born-again bigots' they are never accused of hate-mongering, at least not in mainstream publications. I suggest that whoever practices ethnic politics opens himself up to the possibility of fair and honorable critique, as well as the dishonorable kind.

    Yes, but the word ‘anti-Semitic’ entered the language in the 19th century to categorize people who dislike Jews.

    Incorrect.

    “anti-semitic” was applied to Spanish persecution of Moors/Muslims in the 15th century.

    The appearance of the word “antisemite” is frequently attributed to Wilhelm Marr and his 1879-ish pamphlet, “The Victory of Judaism over Germanism.” Dr. MacDonald was at the vanguard of posting an English translation of Marr’s pamphlet; it can be found here: http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Marr-Text-English.pdf

    MacDonald’s comments on the modernity of Marr’s themes can be found here:

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Marr.html

    What you will not find is use of the word “anti-Semitism” in the text of Marr’s (1879) pamphlet.

    On the other hand, Benzion Netanyahu’s opus maximus, The Origins of the Inquisition in Fifteenth Century Spain, dates the first instance of anti-Semitism to the Sixth Century BC, when Jews, who were hired as mercenaries by the Persians to guard Persia’s newly-annexed Egyptian territories. Benzion writes observes that Egyptians must have been “seething with resentment” at having been conquered, and unaccountably transferred that resentment to Jews, who had been friends of Persia since Persia obtained Jewish liberation.

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  137. @Jean de Peyrelongue
    I understand fully what you are saying but aggression against the Jewish community strenghten it. The Jewish community needs to feel surrounded by ennemies to stay together and to remember that they are exceptional people: "God's choosen".

    The jewish community acts as a shield to protect the nucleus running the world.
    Those who need to be finger at, and putting into jail, that elite running the western world, are hiding themselves within the community, which is for them some kind of canon fodder. For them, the Shoa and Israel are just tools to maintain the Jewish community together. For them the worst crime for a jew is when he acts as a deserter and wants to be assimilated in the country where he lives. For the elite, Jews have to be paranoiac, and develop a feeling of revenge against all the Goyim.

    If we don't want to help that elite, we must not assault the Jewish community but help that community to get out of the getho in which they are living. We must help these people to discover the Truth about their history. They have been lied for too long.

    The jewish community acts as a shield to protect the nucleus

    Indeed.

    Compare the Star of David to the Swastika.

    SoD has a perimeter of ‘spear-points’ formed of 6 triangles — the “community” — that, in total, may encompass less space than the hexagon — the rulers?? the Land, which is be-all and end-all of zionist ideology?? — they surround; there is no break in the barrier between the central hexagon and the ‘outside world.’ The ‘spear points’ are aggressive, not open and welcoming. Another view of SoD sees it as two triangles inseparably interlaced; again, no points of entry to either the outer breastworks of triangles nor the inner hexagon.

    Swastika, on the other hand, has no closed spaces, it is wide open, welcoming, but with bent arms offering shelter to those gathered around the central Cross.

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  138. Art says:
    @Tyrion

    1. Oh? And how many Labour Party members lately have been subjected to an inquiry by their own party for their ‘stance on Venezuela’? Exactly none. But at least three member–all on very specious pretenses–have now been subjected to just such a colonoscopy because of ‘anti-semitism’.
     
    People are constantly losing their jobs for crimes against progressivism. Whether they transgress on race, religion, sexuality or whatever. That these people didn't lose their jobs, when they clearly would have, had the offended been of any other group bar the native, is proof of my point.

    The Labour party has decided to become the ethnic grievance party. It is unsuprising that the Labour party's enemies should think it vulnerable to charges of anti-Semitism.

    However, those charges didn't stick as the superseding fact is that anti-Semitism, bar the occasional native loser and they are very occasional, is the province of Muslims in Britain and Muslims, being brown and less competent, trump Jews in the progressive hierarchy.


    But the neocons and the money-changers want him gone so they can get at Russia again.
     
    Billionaire Jew Bernie Ecclestone was publically quoted as wishing Putin was put in charge of Europe. I'm sure he was not one hundred percent serious but it rather goes against your fantasy.

    As I said before. Anti-Semites tend to start off with things they don't like and then just blame Jews. It is exactly what deranged feminists do with the patriarchy. Whatever the woman doesn't like, even about herself, she will blame on one simple oppressor. There certainly seems to be a shared psychology.

    Anyway, with that I'm done. I've read and answered the commenters on this site as regards Jews and I've come out more proud to be Jewish than before. I made an honest test-case as I am incredibly critical of most Jewish opinion formers, but it seems that the arguments here are way off.

    I find a lot of ressentiment and very little substance. It mostly seems to be deranged idiots with hoarded collections of links screaming the same nonsense into the ether time and time again. Really, they are clearly quite mad and that is before they even start accusing people of being paid Israeli operatives .

    Now back to the real world, where colleagues and such like idly allege that Trump is controlled by Putin or whatever the ridiculous politically correct conspiracy theory of the day is )-:.

    Anti-Semites tend to start off with things they don’t like and then just blame Jews.

    Once you have been called an anti-Semite (which takes very little) and feel all the venom that goes with it – one tends to get one’s back up, and thus give no quarter to whinny half-truths.

    It is true – Jews bring things down on themselves. I think that it is their upbringing. By the age of five they are terrorized with the notion that everyone wants to kill them – repeated trauma in youth never leaves one. What a sick culture.

    Think Peace — Art

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  139. Anon-og says:
    @Tyrion
    Omg Jews don't care about civil society, they are so insular.

    Omg those 2 Jews give money to civil organisations! They are conspiring.

    Omg they disagree and are on opposing sides, now they really are conspiring!

    Stop being such a Jew ……..

    “they were on opposing sides in a 2 sided election and neither are Israeli…what type of Israeli inteference is that?”

    The biggest donors on each side were Israelis and you already knew that, so that’s the type of Israeli interference that it was.

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  140. @Anon
    How would you, speaker of fluent German that you are,* translate the term "Jüdlein," which is the term that Kaufmann translated as "kike"? Murphy translates it as "little Jew," but I don't think that really delivers the punch that Hitler sought in the original.

    ====

    * You, after all, did think that "Verschiedene" was the name of a KZ, rather than a reference to "various" concentration camps.

    I don’t think that really delivers the punch that Hitler sought in the original.

    How do you know what “punch” Hitler “sought”?

    Lots of people think they know what Hitler sought/thought/planned/schemed, based solely on their own projections.

    For example, Professor David Engel, scholar at USHMM who has taught Holocaust for >25 years at prestigious universities in US, Moscow and Israel, says this of Hitler:

    “Think about it: The common image of Hitler, when he was alive and for decades after his death, was of someone who was all rage, all emotion, all desire, but no intellect, no thought.
    Hitler was widely presumed, in his own time and afterward, to have been interested in nothing more than power for its own sake.
    Very often he was depicted as a sort of empty-headed egomaniac who wanted to control the world only to satisfy his own vanity, his own ambition.
    Those of you who have seen Charlie Chaplin’s classic film, “The Great Dictator,” made in 1940 [actually, made in 1939; hit the theaters in 1940] will understand what I mean: Recall the scene where the Hitler character plays with his beach ball in the shape of a globe, batting it up and down, taking enormous pleasure in having the world as his plaything, and you will understand the impression that many of Hitler’s contemporaries had of him.”

    How to unpack this in 200 words?

    The most obvious thing to mention is that Engel relied on a propaganda film, Chaplin’s The Great Dictator, to support his claim that “Hitler was an egomaniac who wanted to control the world.”
    We can prove — from Jewish sources — that Chaplin was a propaganda operative in the Anglo-Jewish camp — Benjamin Ginsberg states this in his book, “How The Jews Defeated Hitler,” and Chaplin’s link to British propaganda agents and Communists are revealed in Ben McIntyre’s “Operation Mincemeat.”
    Thus, reliance on a propaganda film as evidence of Hitler’s thinking processes — or lack of same — is a circular argument, as substantial as the air in Chaplin’s beach ball.

    Furthermore, one can point to Lloyd George’s comments about Hitler after meeting him in Germany; to Winston Churchill’s own estimation of Hitler’s passion for his nation and people, and to Herbert Hoover’s notes on his meeting with Hitler in 1938, when he congratulated Hitler on having so significantly improved German housing and the German economy (see Freedom Betrayed).

    In the prequel to this claim, Engel explained that the “understanding” that is key to Hitler’s thinking is that “Jews are a pathogen, a mortal danger to continued life on earth thus every Jew on earth must be killed in order to save humanity,” and that “the leaders of the Third Reich regarded killing Jews as one of the fundamental reasons for their government’s existence.

    (Coincidentally, Sebastian Haffner makes the same claims, in almost precisely the same words as Engel, in “The Meaning of Hitler.” Haffner left Germany in 1938 with his Jewish girlfriend, who was carrying his child. After a crash course to learn English, Haffner found work with British Foreign Service (which as all UF members know, was exquisitely honest in its communications about Germany 1933 – 1945 )

    So, dear anon, you’re going to have to at least match Professor David Engel’s level of proof for “Hitler’s thinking” — maybe a line from the Why We Fight anti-German propaganda films written by Jewish Communists??

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    How do you know what “punch” Hitler “sought”?
     
    Look at the context, moron. It doesn't require a Ph.D. to figure out that Hitler didn't like Jews.
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  141. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Chaplin: I recall reading a piece many years ago describing a Chaplin speech where he opined that America should emulate Stalin’s zero-tolerance policy toward Fascists within. It has taken us a long time but perhaps Chaplin’s dream will finally be realized. )-:

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    Chaplin was a communist. Communists think that everyone not a Communist is a fascist.
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  142. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @SolontoCroesus

    I don’t think that really delivers the punch that Hitler sought in the original.
     
    How do you know what "punch" Hitler "sought"?

    Lots of people think they know what Hitler sought/thought/planned/schemed, based solely on their own projections.

    For example, Professor David Engel, scholar at USHMM who has taught Holocaust for >25 years at prestigious universities in US, Moscow and Israel, says this of Hitler:


    "Think about it: The common image of Hitler, when he was alive and for decades after his death, was of someone who was all rage, all emotion, all desire, but no intellect, no thought.
    Hitler was widely presumed, in his own time and afterward, to have been interested in nothing more than power for its own sake.
    Very often he was depicted as a sort of empty-headed egomaniac who wanted to control the world only to satisfy his own vanity, his own ambition.
    Those of you who have seen Charlie Chaplin's classic film, "The Great Dictator," made in 1940 [actually, made in 1939; hit the theaters in 1940] will understand what I mean: Recall the scene where the Hitler character plays with his beach ball in the shape of a globe, batting it up and down, taking enormous pleasure in having the world as his plaything, and you will understand the impression that many of Hitler's contemporaries had of him."
     
    How to unpack this in 200 words?

    The most obvious thing to mention is that Engel relied on a propaganda film, Chaplin's The Great Dictator, to support his claim that "Hitler was an egomaniac who wanted to control the world."
    We can prove -- from Jewish sources -- that Chaplin was a propaganda operative in the Anglo-Jewish camp -- Benjamin Ginsberg states this in his book, "How The Jews Defeated Hitler," and Chaplin's link to British propaganda agents and Communists are revealed in Ben McIntyre's "Operation Mincemeat."
    Thus, reliance on a propaganda film as evidence of Hitler's thinking processes -- or lack of same -- is a circular argument, as substantial as the air in Chaplin's beach ball.

    Furthermore, one can point to Lloyd George's comments about Hitler after meeting him in Germany; to Winston Churchill's own estimation of Hitler's passion for his nation and people, and to Herbert Hoover's notes on his meeting with Hitler in 1938, when he congratulated Hitler on having so significantly improved German housing and the German economy (see Freedom Betrayed).

    In the prequel to this claim, Engel explained that the "understanding" that is key to Hitler's thinking is that "Jews are a pathogen, a mortal danger to continued life on earth thus every Jew on earth must be killed in order to save humanity," and that "the leaders of the Third Reich regarded killing Jews as one of the fundamental reasons for their government's existence."

    (Coincidentally, Sebastian Haffner makes the same claims, in almost precisely the same words as Engel, in "The Meaning of Hitler." Haffner left Germany in 1938 with his Jewish girlfriend, who was carrying his child. After a crash course to learn English, Haffner found work with British Foreign Service (which as all UF members know, was exquisitely honest in its communications about Germany 1933 - 1945 )

    So, dear anon, you're going to have to at least match Professor David Engel's level of proof for "Hitler's thinking" -- maybe a line from the Why We Fight anti-German propaganda films written by Jewish Communists??

    How do you know what “punch” Hitler “sought”?

    Look at the context, moron. It doesn’t require a Ph.D. to figure out that Hitler didn’t like Jews.

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    moron. It doesn’t require a Ph.D. to figure out that Hitler didn’t like Jews.
     
    Obama didn't like Netanyahu. Can you cite an occasion where Obama called Bibi "kike?"
    , @SolontoCroesus
    My mistake -- I should have hit the reader over the head with David Engel's assessment of Hitler's thinking processes.
    Here's what Engel says in lectures to students at New York Univ & U of Penn:

    "“Think about it: The common image of Hitler, when he was alive and for decades after his death, was of someone who was
    all rage,
    all emotion, all desire, but
    no intellect,
    no thought"
     
    Engel continues:

    Hitler . . . was interested in nothing more than power for its own sake.
     
    then

    Hitler was depicted as a sort of empty-headed egomaniac who wanted to control the world only to satisfy his own vanity, his own ambition.
     
    And to prove his point Dr. David Engel cites a propaganda film made by an certified anti-German propagandist who collaborated with the Communist spy brother of Ewan Montagu, a Jewish person who was a director of British propaganda.
    Montagu also collaborated with Alfred Hitchcock in his production of anti-German film. (see Operation Mincemeat by McIntyre. nb. McIntyre relates that he discovered material for his book in files Montagu had removed from British control, against prevailing protocols, and that more material was similarly sequestered.)

    That Engel cited "The Great Dictator," produced in 1939 and screened in 1940, is further amusing for this reason: not even David Engel claims that Nahzees were killing Jews in 1940, but there's a scene in the 1939 film in which a straight-out-of-central-casting's-Dept- of- Ivy- League-bespectacled-Jewish- ingenues reports, excitedly, to her parents, brows wrinkled, hands wringing behind the Hannukah candles: "They are gassing us! Pfft pfft!"

    Looks like your continuity crew screwed up, Charlie; that scene was not supposed to occur until Leon Feiner sneaked into Warsaw in 1941; or was it when Reigner sent a telegram in 1942, or Vrba escaped from Auschwicz in 1944 --- All these years, all these stories, all these first-hand reports and still can't get the storyline straight. It's hard to keep lies in order, especially when they're coming from so many different directions to serve so many different agendas.

    In short, if the only study you ever did of the Holocaust was to follow carefully David Engel's lectures, you would either laugh yourself silly or pull your hair out; CODOH would be out of business and Wally could take up fly-fishing: it's that obvious that Engel's lectures are nothing more than regurgitations of 80-year old propaganda by some of the most fiendish minds Anglo-Zionists assembled on four land-masses.
    Engel's lectures are a badly constructed patchwork of internal contradictions and outrageous lies underlying ludicrous leaps of logic and baseless interpretations that can only be understood as the projections of a demented psyche compelled to twist facts to fit a pre-ordained propagandized PR-agency produced narrative. That presentations like Engel's persuade students at New York University, TelAviv Univ. and the USHMM belies the notion that Jews have high intelligence.

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  143. @Anon

    How do you know what “punch” Hitler “sought”?
     
    Look at the context, moron. It doesn't require a Ph.D. to figure out that Hitler didn't like Jews.

    moron. It doesn’t require a Ph.D. to figure out that Hitler didn’t like Jews.

    Obama didn’t like Netanyahu. Can you cite an occasion where Obama called Bibi “kike?”

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  144. Alden says:
    @Tyrion

    Sure. But do you ever ask yourself: Why that particular accusation rather than another? Why? Because Corbyn is pro-Palestinian and has been for a long time. They’re specifically signalling him to back off that issue. They’re doing the same with Trump; after all, why is it called Russia-gate rather than some other -gate? So naturally they would try to attack Corbyn for ‘anti-semitism’ – this is all about Project Israel.
     
    1. It is not that 'particular' an accusation. Other accusations include misogyny, unilateral disarmament, communism, his stance on Venezuela, corruption among unions, his well-heeled upbringing, his disloyalty to his party colleagues etc etc.

    The key being that they need at least an element of truth and they need to be generally considered a bad thing.

    2. How on earth is Russia-gate about Israel?

    Putin has been very fair with Israel. He seems to judge it according to the global standard, as he wants Russia to be judged.

    Obama, on the other hand, tried to hold Israel to the much higher and much more restrictive standard that the resentful left holds all white people, or even whatever they can identify as the white and therefore bad side, in any conflict.

    The idea that Jews acting in Israeli interests would want to harm Trump, push him from Putin and use Obama as a paragon is nuts. They would have to be beyond stupid.

    But then for many of the commenters on this site anti-Semitism seems to consist of identifying whatever they happen to dislike and then somehow believing that the Jews did it.

    American Jews worship Obama and loathe and detest Trump because their leadership told them to.

    Same thing with gays, from 1970′s legalization, to 1980′s AIDS hysteria, to NAMBLA, to gay marriage to transgender bathrooms, to hormone treatments for 10 yr olds to turn them into the opposite sex; as soon as a liberal fad comes along Jews jump right in.

    Sinks filled with liberal propaganda until propaganda headquarters fills the sink with some new liberal propaganda.
    That’s the brain of a liberal.

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  145. Alden says:
    @turtle
    "Jewish" and "Semitic" are not the same thing at all.
    There are Jews who are not Semites, and there are Semites who are not Jews.

    Examples of the former:
    Connie Chung is Jewish.
    She is not Semitic.
    She is Chinese.
    Ivanka Trump is Jewish.
    She is not Semitic.
    She is of Aryan and Slavic heritage.
    The late Elizabeth Taylor was Jewish.
    She was not even remotely Semitic.
    The late Paul Newman ( a man whom I greatly admired both personally and professionally) was Jewish.
    With his blond hair and blue eyes, he did not appear Semitic to me.

    Examples of the latter:
    The king of Saudi Arabia is Semitic.
    He is not Jewish.
    He is Arab.
    The late Osama bin Laden was Semitic.
    He was not Jewish.
    He was Arab.
    I have a Semitic friend who was born and raised in Baghdad, Iraq.
    He is Semitic.
    He is not Jewish.
    He is Arab.
    (It is possible to be a Jew born and raised in Baghdad, but that does not apply, in this case.)
    All the Arabs of Palestine are Semitic people.
    None of them are Jewish.

    The vast majority of Semitic people who are not Jewish are Arabs.
    All Arabs are Semitic human beings.
    There are also some Aramaic people, but their numbers are few.

    Some will contend that "historically" "anti-Semitic" has been taken to mean "anti-Jewish."

    I say to them:
    Continued incorrect usage does not make a thing correct.
    I could, for example, call a cat a "llama."
    If I did so repeatedly, then, for me at least, this would constitute "historical usage."
    Despite this usage, it would still be incorrect.

    The road to understanding begins with naming things properly.
    I believe a Chinese guy said that long ago.

    I assert that anyone who uses "anti-Semitic" to mean "anti-Jewish" is either woefully ignorant, or else is a vicious racist who denies the humanity of Arabs.

    I would expect the latter from at least some Jews, based on their public statements to the effect that all non-Jews are lower forms of life, but the rest of humanity have no excuse.

    In fact, at least some enlightened Jews do repudiate the "non-Jews are animals" paradigm, but still persist in the "anti-Jewish is anti-Semitic" canard.

    They, and all others who are similarly intellectually lazy, need to police their own speech.

    Actually, Semitic refers to a group of related languages spoken by various people’s.

    That’s all it is

    Until late 19th century Zionist activists created the “Semite People’s” claiming brotherhood with Arabs. In the 1870s to 1917 zionists wished only to save their little brown Semitic brothers from the evil Turks. From 1922 to 1948 the zionists only wanted to save their little brown Semitic brothers from the evil British.

    But actually, Semitic is a language group, not human beings.

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  146. Alden says:
    @Priss Factor
    In your world view are all Darkies dumb brutes?

    Not really. It doesn't matter what blacks once were. Chanda Chisala convinced me that the future will belong to the Negroes.

    Why? Negroes got 'big man' mentality and love to hump everyone. This will boost black IQ sky-high in the future, esp in Nigeria. Unlike non-black geeks who don't know how to approach womenfolk, high-IQ blacks are like other jive-ass blacks and go after tons of women. So, smart Nigerians will use their wealth to shamelessly get harems and hump tons of women. So, smart black genes will spread.
    Never mind brain drain. This will be Head Spread.

    And then, Negroes will not only have advantage with muscle and genitalia but with brains. They will not only be beating up non-blacks and humping all their womenfolk but using the intellect like a a million funky Einsteins.
    Soon, blacks will be making flying pyramids that will colonize Mars and other planets and then the entire galaxy. It won't be just a black planet but a black galaxy, to be renamed the Chocolate Milky Way Galaxy. Blacks will become like the monolith in 2001 and take over the entire cosmos.

    A frightening future indeed for non-black folks.

    Press,

    Keep your homosexual domination and submission fantasies to yourself. The way you describe them, you must not have ever spoken or inter acted with a black person.

    If they are so strong and macho, why are so many of them in prison and jail awaiting trial? Many White men and almost all of the women and Hispanic cops who arrest them are a lot smaller that the black men who submit to being handcuffed by a 5’4 woman and a 5’6 Hispanic man

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  147. Alden says:
    @Anon
    Chaplin: I recall reading a piece many years ago describing a Chaplin speech where he opined that America should emulate Stalin's zero-tolerance policy toward Fascists within. It has taken us a long time but perhaps Chaplin's dream will finally be realized. )-:

    Chaplin was a communist. Communists think that everyone not a Communist is a fascist.

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    Chaplin was a communist.
     
    with some mega-millionaire proclivities.

    On January 11, 1927, Charlie Chaplin’s $16 million estate** is frozen by court receivers after his second wife, Lita Grey Chaplin, sues for divorce. Lita was a 16-year-old hopeful actress when the 35-year-old Chaplin married her in 1924. The bitter and prolonged divorce ended a three-year marriage with a $1 million settlement.
    Chaplin, one of the most financially successful stars of early Hollywood ...
    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/charlie-chaplins-assets-frozen
     
    ** $16 million in 1927 = $226,960,000.00 in 2017 dollars.
    Compare: Harvey Weinstein is said to be one of the richest men in Hollywood; his net worth is "estimated to be between $240 million and $300 million." http://time.com/money/4978630/harvey-weinstein-net-worth-money/
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  148. @Anon

    How do you know what “punch” Hitler “sought”?
     
    Look at the context, moron. It doesn't require a Ph.D. to figure out that Hitler didn't like Jews.

    My mistake — I should have hit the reader over the head with David Engel’s assessment of Hitler’s thinking processes.
    Here’s what Engel says in lectures to students at New York Univ & U of Penn:

    ““Think about it: The common image of Hitler, when he was alive and for decades after his death, was of someone who was
    all rage,
    all emotion, all desire, but
    no intellect,
    no thought”

    Engel continues:

    Hitler . . . was interested in nothing more than power for its own sake.

    then

    Hitler was depicted as a sort of empty-headed egomaniac who wanted to control the world only to satisfy his own vanity, his own ambition.

    And to prove his point Dr. David Engel cites a propaganda film made by an certified anti-German propagandist who collaborated with the Communist spy brother of Ewan Montagu, a Jewish person who was a director of British propaganda.
    Montagu also collaborated with Alfred Hitchcock in his production of anti-German film. (see Operation Mincemeat by McIntyre. nb. McIntyre relates that he discovered material for his book in files Montagu had removed from British control, against prevailing protocols, and that more material was similarly sequestered.)

    That Engel cited “The Great Dictator,” produced in 1939 and screened in 1940, is further amusing for this reason: not even David Engel claims that Nahzees were killing Jews in 1940, but there’s a scene in the 1939 film in which a straight-out-of-central-casting’s-Dept- of- Ivy- League-bespectacled-Jewish- ingenues reports, excitedly, to her parents, brows wrinkled, hands wringing behind the Hannukah candles: “They are gassing us! Pfft pfft!”

    Looks like your continuity crew screwed up, Charlie; that scene was not supposed to occur until Leon Feiner sneaked into Warsaw in 1941; or was it when Reigner sent a telegram in 1942, or Vrba escaped from Auschwicz in 1944 — All these years, all these stories, all these first-hand reports and still can’t get the storyline straight. It’s hard to keep lies in order, especially when they’re coming from so many different directions to serve so many different agendas.

    In short, if the only study you ever did of the Holocaust was to follow carefully David Engel’s lectures, you would either laugh yourself silly or pull your hair out; CODOH would be out of business and Wally could take up fly-fishing: it’s that obvious that Engel’s lectures are nothing more than regurgitations of 80-year old propaganda by some of the most fiendish minds Anglo-Zionists assembled on four land-masses.
    Engel’s lectures are a badly constructed patchwork of internal contradictions and outrageous lies underlying ludicrous leaps of logic and baseless interpretations that can only be understood as the projections of a demented psyche compelled to twist facts to fit a pre-ordained propagandized PR-agency produced narrative. That presentations like Engel’s persuade students at New York University, TelAviv Univ. and the USHMM belies the notion that Jews have high intelligence.

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  149. @Alden
    Chaplin was a communist. Communists think that everyone not a Communist is a fascist.

    Chaplin was a communist.

    with some mega-millionaire proclivities.

    On January 11, 1927, Charlie Chaplin’s $16 million estate** is frozen by court receivers after his second wife, Lita Grey Chaplin, sues for divorce. Lita was a 16-year-old hopeful actress when the 35-year-old Chaplin married her in 1924. The bitter and prolonged divorce ended a three-year marriage with a $1 million settlement.
    Chaplin, one of the most financially successful stars of early Hollywood …

    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/charlie-chaplins-assets-frozen

    ** $16 million in 1927 = $226,960,000.00 in 2017 dollars.
    Compare: Harvey Weinstein is said to be one of the richest men in Hollywood; his net worth is “estimated to be between $240 million and $300 million.” http://time.com/money/4978630/harvey-weinstein-net-worth-money/

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  150. renfro says:
    @Tyrion

    1. Oh? And how many Labour Party members lately have been subjected to an inquiry by their own party for their ‘stance on Venezuela’? Exactly none. But at least three member–all on very specious pretenses–have now been subjected to just such a colonoscopy because of ‘anti-semitism’.
     
    People are constantly losing their jobs for crimes against progressivism. Whether they transgress on race, religion, sexuality or whatever. That these people didn't lose their jobs, when they clearly would have, had the offended been of any other group bar the native, is proof of my point.

    The Labour party has decided to become the ethnic grievance party. It is unsuprising that the Labour party's enemies should think it vulnerable to charges of anti-Semitism.

    However, those charges didn't stick as the superseding fact is that anti-Semitism, bar the occasional native loser and they are very occasional, is the province of Muslims in Britain and Muslims, being brown and less competent, trump Jews in the progressive hierarchy.


    But the neocons and the money-changers want him gone so they can get at Russia again.
     
    Billionaire Jew Bernie Ecclestone was publically quoted as wishing Putin was put in charge of Europe. I'm sure he was not one hundred percent serious but it rather goes against your fantasy.

    As I said before. Anti-Semites tend to start off with things they don't like and then just blame Jews. It is exactly what deranged feminists do with the patriarchy. Whatever the woman doesn't like, even about herself, she will blame on one simple oppressor. There certainly seems to be a shared psychology.

    Anyway, with that I'm done. I've read and answered the commenters on this site as regards Jews and I've come out more proud to be Jewish than before. I made an honest test-case as I am incredibly critical of most Jewish opinion formers, but it seems that the arguments here are way off.

    I find a lot of ressentiment and very little substance. It mostly seems to be deranged idiots with hoarded collections of links screaming the same nonsense into the ether time and time again. Really, they are clearly quite mad and that is before they even start accusing people of being paid Israeli operatives .

    Now back to the real world, where colleagues and such like idly allege that Trump is controlled by Putin or whatever the ridiculous politically correct conspiracy theory of the day is )-:.

    I was going to make a comment to you but first decided to review your previous comments…..that got me side tracked.

    So what I want to ask you now is about this comment:

    “Finally, from what I genuinely consider a reasonably objective and dispassionate position, I believe that Jews have been a net benefit to the West, and the only people who disagree mostly blame ephemeral, hidden forces while ignoring real world accomplishments. Indeed, it is all but impossible to imagine the West without very signficant Jewish influence.”

    I am not being snarky in asking you to list specifically the Jewish accomplishments and influence you think have so contributed to the western world….I want to know what you think they are or have been told they are.

    I have asked this question of everyone who has claimed this and so far no one has ever replied with a list of Jewish influences that made the western world what it is.

    So if you can provide an answer you will be the first to ever do so in my long 15 year involvement in Israel/Palestine and the Jews.

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    Amsterdam in the 15/16th? century. Venice was the trade center in the 14/15th century and then the action moved to Amsterdam where the jewish community was if not central then integral. I don't know how accurate that is. But from Amsterdam the northern European colonial phase started. and then there are the reports of slave markets closing for jewish holidays. I don't know how accurate that is. But the Judaeo-Christian aspects of the west, how the ideologies created the west and what functions each played, are not discussed and are interesting. I think the trouble is that having been not wanted for so long it's hard for jewish people now to acknowledge how well they have done.
    , @Tyrion
    Apologies for the delayed reply. I did say I was done and you are asking rather a lot. A collection of books might suffice. There are plenty already written.

    Nonetheless, I have tried to give my personal view and considering that Steve Sailer is absolutely my formative intellectual influence, I hope what follows is congenial to its readers.

    Again, let me restate, this is a hastily written out gallop through Jews of importance in the success of the West. I am not expert in Judaism either, although, of course, I am Jewish.

    Western civilisation is unique. It does not meekly accept nature. It creates. Aesthetically, it does so through image and word. Judaism is the source of 'the word'. Egypt is the source of the image. Greece collected and made beautiful both.

    Later came Jesus the Jew. For whom Christendom, once synonymous with the West, was named. I sympathise with Nietzsche but Christ was clearly a pretty important figure.

    Jews stopped playing a hugely outsized role for a while. Still, Maimonides "healthy body healthy mind" and the Jewish niche in trade furthered greater civilisation.

    The came the Enlightenment and there followed an incredible flurry of key individuals. Need I really name all of the scientific discoveries? The Nobel prizes say it all. Perhaps best to keep it with societally important paradigm shifts?

    Freud is an incredibly misunderstood thinker. His followers were idiots. If people here read him, they would like him. Without Freud there'd be no Nietzsche, for example. He dealt with people as they are.

    Hollywood may have banal politics, but it is also the Western art par excellence. Indeed it is the completeion of Ancient Egyptian statuary. Ironically, for a people who initiated the word as opposed to the image, it is a sublime visual medium that is so far from being matched by any other civilisation that it is absurd. Surely they could copy better? Watch Blade Runner 2049 and you'll see.

    Although Adam Smith was not Jewish. Riccardo was. As is economics to a signficant extent. Including Marx, half, who was almost entirely sui generis. Contemporary Marxists are scumbags, but when Marx lived, the world was crying out for such a genius. People forget the existential horror of the early proletariat. Alternatuvely there is Austrian economics, which might as well be called Jew economics. Or everything in between.

    Or from a personal perspective. We have Britain. My country has had an awful post WWII period. But Jews and imperial Britain were hand in glove and nothing was more glorious.
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  151. renfro says:
    @Jean de Peyrelongue
    I understand fully what you are saying but aggression against the Jewish community strenghten it. The Jewish community needs to feel surrounded by ennemies to stay together and to remember that they are exceptional people: "God's choosen".

    The jewish community acts as a shield to protect the nucleus running the world.
    Those who need to be finger at, and putting into jail, that elite running the western world, are hiding themselves within the community, which is for them some kind of canon fodder. For them, the Shoa and Israel are just tools to maintain the Jewish community together. For them the worst crime for a jew is when he acts as a deserter and wants to be assimilated in the country where he lives. For the elite, Jews have to be paranoiac, and develop a feeling of revenge against all the Goyim.

    If we don't want to help that elite, we must not assault the Jewish community but help that community to get out of the getho in which they are living. We must help these people to discover the Truth about their history. They have been lied for too long.

    I also understand where you are coming from but have to both agree and disagree.
    I agree that if Jews feel threatened they become more tribal.
    However I disagree that it is realistically possible to ‘help’ the Jews as a group to come to their senses so to speak and cease the tribal attitudes that are detrimental to others interest and rights.
    Here’s why…
    First you are up against 2000 years of ingrained beliefs.
    Second ..and this may be news to some…but neuroscience has proved that *structural changes occur in the brain when subjected to stress (like PTSD) …..or ‘repeated influences’…i.e….beliefs and or teachings repeated over and over within a group.
    Third..according to Duke University neuroscientist findings these structural changes in the brain are ‘inheritable’…can be genetically passed down thru generations.
    Humans aren’t that different from animals–for instance in experiments with animals researchers found that if they expose animals to a certain odor like cherry blossoms while giving them a eltroshock that when those animals reproduce and their offspring totally removed from the mother at birth….that offspring will have the same fear response to the smell of cherry blossoms the mother had.
    All of this research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations
    The only good news in this discovery is that the brain can be rewired to compensate for the altered structural of the brain…BUT it takes years and years of therapy and retraining.
    To illustrate my point about how this relates to the average Jew consider Shomo Sands, the Jewish
    historian who wrote “The Invention of the Jewish People’ and he “Wandering Who”.
    Sands announced that he was no longer a Jew …iow he renounced any Jewish ‘identity for himself because he found the Jewish state repugnant.
    BUT…despite his extremely logical and analytical brain function…another part of his brain couldnt let go of the centuries long ingrained Jewish idea of complete Jewish innocence and their irrational persecution by the ‘diseased others’. As he he wrote ..in how ‘I Ceased to be a Jew’.
    “I don’t write for anti-Semites, I regard them as totally ignorant or people who suffer from an incurable disease,”
    Also consider the liberal and anti Zionist Jews like Phil Weiss, Max Blumenthal,MJ Rosenberg—–They all go into full out panic and censorship of anything that touches on or attempts to examine Jewish ‘culture’ and how it may have brought on itself some of its travails or given rise to the anti others Zionism .
    So really what I’m saying is you cant ‘fix’ the Jews, they cant even fix themselves….and there are no signs they want to….and the world doesn’t have 2000 years or even 20 years to devote to therapy and tip toeing around the Jewish Fifth Column and Israel to protect the good Jews from the bad Jews or worry about their hurt feelings or their nightmares. They have projected their nightmares on the world, the US, Palestine, Iran, etc.etc..it has to end.
    A little fear is a healthy thing…it might not change your thinking or opinions but it can change your actions and choices.

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    A profound and compassionate discourse.

    May it bear fruit.
    , @Jean de Peyrelongue
    Many thanks for this answer. You may be right but then, there is little hope for the future and unless they shoot themselse in the foot, they are going to drive the world to Armaggedon.
    The last attempt to get free from their yoke, ended in a nightmare and it has been the rationale to justify their actual behaviour.
    Roger Garaudy was dreaming of putting the Financial system based on the dollar, the Yen and the Euro into bankruptcy. For him, it was the only solution to avoid the WW III. But as most people are afraid of having to live like the Cubans or the North Koreans, they will not join to boycott the financial system and the Jewish community will meet their old objective of running the World even if it is totally destroyed.
    , @Rurik

    research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations
     
    I remember reading about this kind of thing years ago

    back then, behaviorist researchers were working with worms, and they were using electric stimulus to 'teach' worms to go a certain way though a 'maze', using tiny shocks. Eventually they were able to 'teach' these worms, and then remarkably, the offspring of the worms also would go down the same maze as if they had been taught, but they hadn't been. The 'knowledge' had been passed though genetically. I remember reading about how it was though the RNA (ribonucleic acid) that the transfer had taken place. All very exciting stuff from a behaviorist perspective.

    And rings true in the interesting and salient context you provide.

    thanks
    , @Art

    Second ..and this may be news to some…but neuroscience has proved that *structural changes occur in the brain when subjected to stress (like PTSD) …..or ‘repeated influences’…i.e….beliefs and or teachings repeated over and over within a group.
     
    This happens to Jewish children at an early age - at four or five they hear and are told that everyone wants to kill them. They are terrorized - that is traumatic to young minds. Clearly their minds are frozen in place. Jew children are pump up with an irrational unabated fear of mankind, a sense of superiority, and the encouragement to be clever (dishonest).

    When they are forty all they can do is react with childhood fear, arrogance, and lies. No matter what truth they see about themselves - they can do nothing but be defensive. Clearly they are programmed in a way that separates them from humanity.

    Think Peace ---Art
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  152. Zumbuddi says:
    @renfro
    I also understand where you are coming from but have to both agree and disagree.
    I agree that if Jews feel threatened they become more tribal.
    However I disagree that it is realistically possible to ‘help’ the Jews as a group to come to their senses so to speak and cease the tribal attitudes that are detrimental to others interest and rights.
    Here’s why…
    First you are up against 2000 years of ingrained beliefs.
    Second ..and this may be news to some…but neuroscience has proved that *structural changes occur in the brain when subjected to stress (like PTSD) …..or ‘repeated influences’…i.e….beliefs and or teachings repeated over and over within a group.
    Third..according to Duke University neuroscientist findings these structural changes in the brain are ‘inheritable’…can be genetically passed down thru generations.
    Humans aren’t that different from animals–for instance in experiments with animals researchers found that if they expose animals to a certain odor like cherry blossoms while giving them a eltroshock that when those animals reproduce and their offspring totally removed from the mother at birth….that offspring will have the same fear response to the smell of cherry blossoms the mother had.
    All of this research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations
    The only good news in this discovery is that the brain can be rewired to compensate for the altered structural of the brain…BUT it takes years and years of therapy and retraining.
    To illustrate my point about how this relates to the average Jew consider Shomo Sands, the Jewish
    historian who wrote “The Invention of the Jewish People’ and he “Wandering Who”.
    Sands announced that he was no longer a Jew …iow he renounced any Jewish ‘identity for himself because he found the Jewish state repugnant.
    BUT…despite his extremely logical and analytical brain function…another part of his brain couldnt let go of the centuries long ingrained Jewish idea of complete Jewish innocence and their irrational persecution by the ‘diseased others’. As he he wrote ..in how ‘I Ceased to be a Jew’.
    “I don’t write for anti-Semites, I regard them as totally ignorant or people who suffer from an incurable disease,”
    Also consider the liberal and anti Zionist Jews like Phil Weiss, Max Blumenthal,MJ Rosenberg—–They all go into full out panic and censorship of anything that touches on or attempts to examine Jewish ‘culture’ and how it may have brought on itself some of its travails or given rise to the anti others Zionism .
    So really what I’m saying is you cant ‘fix’ the Jews, they cant even fix themselves….and there are no signs they want to….and the world doesn’t have 2000 years or even 20 years to devote to therapy and tip toeing around the Jewish Fifth Column and Israel to protect the good Jews from the bad Jews or worry about their hurt feelings or their nightmares. They have projected their nightmares on the world, the US, Palestine, Iran, etc.etc..it has to end.
    A little fear is a healthy thing…it might not change your thinking or opinions but it can change your actions and choices.

    A profound and compassionate discourse.

    May it bear fruit.

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    Thanks Zumbuddi...we can keep trying to make people understand why an outside force is the only way to end this sickness enveloping the US and Palestine.
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  153. renfro says:
    @Zumbuddi
    A profound and compassionate discourse.

    May it bear fruit.

    Thanks Zumbuddi…we can keep trying to make people understand why an outside force is the only way to end this sickness enveloping the US and Palestine.

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  154. @renfro
    I also understand where you are coming from but have to both agree and disagree.
    I agree that if Jews feel threatened they become more tribal.
    However I disagree that it is realistically possible to ‘help’ the Jews as a group to come to their senses so to speak and cease the tribal attitudes that are detrimental to others interest and rights.
    Here’s why…
    First you are up against 2000 years of ingrained beliefs.
    Second ..and this may be news to some…but neuroscience has proved that *structural changes occur in the brain when subjected to stress (like PTSD) …..or ‘repeated influences’…i.e….beliefs and or teachings repeated over and over within a group.
    Third..according to Duke University neuroscientist findings these structural changes in the brain are ‘inheritable’…can be genetically passed down thru generations.
    Humans aren’t that different from animals–for instance in experiments with animals researchers found that if they expose animals to a certain odor like cherry blossoms while giving them a eltroshock that when those animals reproduce and their offspring totally removed from the mother at birth….that offspring will have the same fear response to the smell of cherry blossoms the mother had.
    All of this research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations
    The only good news in this discovery is that the brain can be rewired to compensate for the altered structural of the brain…BUT it takes years and years of therapy and retraining.
    To illustrate my point about how this relates to the average Jew consider Shomo Sands, the Jewish
    historian who wrote “The Invention of the Jewish People’ and he “Wandering Who”.
    Sands announced that he was no longer a Jew …iow he renounced any Jewish ‘identity for himself because he found the Jewish state repugnant.
    BUT…despite his extremely logical and analytical brain function…another part of his brain couldnt let go of the centuries long ingrained Jewish idea of complete Jewish innocence and their irrational persecution by the ‘diseased others’. As he he wrote ..in how ‘I Ceased to be a Jew’.
    “I don’t write for anti-Semites, I regard them as totally ignorant or people who suffer from an incurable disease,”
    Also consider the liberal and anti Zionist Jews like Phil Weiss, Max Blumenthal,MJ Rosenberg—–They all go into full out panic and censorship of anything that touches on or attempts to examine Jewish ‘culture’ and how it may have brought on itself some of its travails or given rise to the anti others Zionism .
    So really what I’m saying is you cant ‘fix’ the Jews, they cant even fix themselves….and there are no signs they want to….and the world doesn’t have 2000 years or even 20 years to devote to therapy and tip toeing around the Jewish Fifth Column and Israel to protect the good Jews from the bad Jews or worry about their hurt feelings or their nightmares. They have projected their nightmares on the world, the US, Palestine, Iran, etc.etc..it has to end.
    A little fear is a healthy thing…it might not change your thinking or opinions but it can change your actions and choices.

    Many thanks for this answer. You may be right but then, there is little hope for the future and unless they shoot themselse in the foot, they are going to drive the world to Armaggedon.
    The last attempt to get free from their yoke, ended in a nightmare and it has been the rationale to justify their actual behaviour.
    Roger Garaudy was dreaming of putting the Financial system based on the dollar, the Yen and the Euro into bankruptcy. For him, it was the only solution to avoid the WW III. But as most people are afraid of having to live like the Cubans or the North Koreans, they will not join to boycott the financial system and the Jewish community will meet their old objective of running the World even if it is totally destroyed.

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  155. helena says:
    @Anon
    The difference between Jews and other groups, with regard to ostracism as a penalty, is that Jews seem to have originated, perfected, and disseminated the techniques, at least in the quasi-democratic post-Enlightenment world. When I was a kid there was no such thing as being forced to undergo "sensitivity training" or "diversity training" or "gender equity training." The idea of "re-educating" people who hold "incorrect" views is a Communist idea and like most of those, has been mainly promoted by Jews, using their wealth to incent politicians to go along. Similarly, the increasing call to ostracize and ruin those found 'guilty' of 'hate' seems totally Jewish to me. Sure, many blacks and women will go along with it, but mainly because it is understood that it won't be used against them and the grant money will be there for those who sign on. I don't see Jews as INNATELY disposed to any disagreeable behavior and I oppose any discriminatory measures against Jews, but I reserve the right to sociologize about their group politics, and I think the need for discussion is urgent.

    The problem is that the game is rigged so that it is not possible to discuss without being labelled anti-Semitic. antigentile, you see, the hyphen and capital letter do not spring out of the computer. So you can reserve your right but it has no current public currency.

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  156. helena says:
    @renfro
    I was going to make a comment to you but first decided to review your previous comments.....that got me side tracked.

    So what I want to ask you now is about this comment:

    "Finally, from what I genuinely consider a reasonably objective and dispassionate position, I believe that Jews have been a net benefit to the West, and the only people who disagree mostly blame ephemeral, hidden forces while ignoring real world accomplishments. Indeed, it is all but impossible to imagine the West without very signficant Jewish influence.''

    I am not being snarky in asking you to list specifically the Jewish accomplishments and influence you think have so contributed to the western world....I want to know what you think they are or have been told they are.

    I have asked this question of everyone who has claimed this and so far no one has ever replied with a list of Jewish influences that made the western world what it is.

    So if you can provide an answer you will be the first to ever do so in my long 15 year involvement in Israel/Palestine and the Jews.

    Amsterdam in the 15/16th? century. Venice was the trade center in the 14/15th century and then the action moved to Amsterdam where the jewish community was if not central then integral. I don’t know how accurate that is. But from Amsterdam the northern European colonial phase started. and then there are the reports of slave markets closing for jewish holidays. I don’t know how accurate that is. But the Judaeo-Christian aspects of the west, how the ideologies created the west and what functions each played, are not discussed and are interesting. I think the trouble is that having been not wanted for so long it’s hard for jewish people now to acknowledge how well they have done.

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    '' Amsterdam in the 15/16th? century. Venice was the trade center in the 14/15th century and then the action moved to Amsterdam where the jewish community was if not central then integral. I don’t know how accurate that is.''

    There is a excellent book on the beginning of the coffee trade/market in Amsterdam who's title I cant remember right now and it mentions the Jews in Amsterdam.
    The Jews mostly came to Amsterdam from Spain and Portugal in the 1600's ...having been run out of those countries off and on.
    But Amsterdam was already a major if not the major trade center in the world in the mid 1500's before any significant number of Jews fled there. It had huge fleets of ships that brought commodities to be sold and traded from all corners of the world.
    For that reason it was fairly liberal re the Jewish immigrants coming there because the commerce leaders viewed them as being useful as 'go betweens ' to lands where the Jews had previously resided and had relatives and contacts. But Amsterdam still put restrictions on Jews...allowing them to practice Judaism but forbidding them from making derogatory statements about Christians and Catholics ....(which is why they were banished from Rome in the 1200's ) .They were allowed to do their business but they weren't allowed into the trade guilds and for any foreign trade deals they had to go thru a Dutch attorney. The 'markets/exchange were also segregated by choice not by law so some Jews became 'crypto Jews' which enabled them to participate in the Dutch exchange and then secretly also do business in the Jewish exchange. Some of the Jews used this double identity to get in on the coffee trade as it was becoming a hot commodity which is why they were mentioned in the book.

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  157. @jilles dykstra
    There is no worldwide group that gets so much attention as jews.
    That jews have power far more than their numbers suggest, who doubts it ?
    80% of the world's media are said to be in jewish hands.
    If not in jewish hands, non commercial media, many are led by jews, such as BBC.
    If not led by jews, many journalists and presentators are jewish, also in the Netherlands.
    And so criticism of jews is antisemitism, and antisemitism is worse than murdering children, antisemitism leads to gas chambers.
    If anything shows that not all jews are nice people it is Israel, from a pr point of view Israel was a big mistake.
    A mistake so big that Israel's only ally is the USA, a USA where jewish influence may disappear at any moment.
    What I'm unable to understand is that jews cannot see that they are living very dangerously.
    From their history and culture I can explain this dangerous living, but why a people on average with 10 points higher on IQ tests go on like this, this is a mystery to me.

    In the 1950s I don’t think any Ivy League college had a Jewish president. Today, six of the eight have Jewish presidents and the other two have gentile women married to Jewish men. That suggests a conquest of territory. A valuable territory too — Boardwalk and Park Place. And chutzpah: the Jewish president of Dartmouth agreed to forbid dissemination of Lewis’s Mere Christianity as hate speech.

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  158. Rurik says:
    @renfro
    I also understand where you are coming from but have to both agree and disagree.
    I agree that if Jews feel threatened they become more tribal.
    However I disagree that it is realistically possible to ‘help’ the Jews as a group to come to their senses so to speak and cease the tribal attitudes that are detrimental to others interest and rights.
    Here’s why…
    First you are up against 2000 years of ingrained beliefs.
    Second ..and this may be news to some…but neuroscience has proved that *structural changes occur in the brain when subjected to stress (like PTSD) …..or ‘repeated influences’…i.e….beliefs and or teachings repeated over and over within a group.
    Third..according to Duke University neuroscientist findings these structural changes in the brain are ‘inheritable’…can be genetically passed down thru generations.
    Humans aren’t that different from animals–for instance in experiments with animals researchers found that if they expose animals to a certain odor like cherry blossoms while giving them a eltroshock that when those animals reproduce and their offspring totally removed from the mother at birth….that offspring will have the same fear response to the smell of cherry blossoms the mother had.
    All of this research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations
    The only good news in this discovery is that the brain can be rewired to compensate for the altered structural of the brain…BUT it takes years and years of therapy and retraining.
    To illustrate my point about how this relates to the average Jew consider Shomo Sands, the Jewish
    historian who wrote “The Invention of the Jewish People’ and he “Wandering Who”.
    Sands announced that he was no longer a Jew …iow he renounced any Jewish ‘identity for himself because he found the Jewish state repugnant.
    BUT…despite his extremely logical and analytical brain function…another part of his brain couldnt let go of the centuries long ingrained Jewish idea of complete Jewish innocence and their irrational persecution by the ‘diseased others’. As he he wrote ..in how ‘I Ceased to be a Jew’.
    “I don’t write for anti-Semites, I regard them as totally ignorant or people who suffer from an incurable disease,”
    Also consider the liberal and anti Zionist Jews like Phil Weiss, Max Blumenthal,MJ Rosenberg—–They all go into full out panic and censorship of anything that touches on or attempts to examine Jewish ‘culture’ and how it may have brought on itself some of its travails or given rise to the anti others Zionism .
    So really what I’m saying is you cant ‘fix’ the Jews, they cant even fix themselves….and there are no signs they want to….and the world doesn’t have 2000 years or even 20 years to devote to therapy and tip toeing around the Jewish Fifth Column and Israel to protect the good Jews from the bad Jews or worry about their hurt feelings or their nightmares. They have projected their nightmares on the world, the US, Palestine, Iran, etc.etc..it has to end.
    A little fear is a healthy thing…it might not change your thinking or opinions but it can change your actions and choices.

    research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations

    I remember reading about this kind of thing years ago

    back then, behaviorist researchers were working with worms, and they were using electric stimulus to ‘teach’ worms to go a certain way though a ‘maze’, using tiny shocks. Eventually they were able to ‘teach’ these worms, and then remarkably, the offspring of the worms also would go down the same maze as if they had been taught, but they hadn’t been. The ‘knowledge’ had been passed though genetically. I remember reading about how it was though the RNA (ribonucleic acid) that the transfer had taken place. All very exciting stuff from a behaviorist perspective.

    And rings true in the interesting and salient context you provide.

    thanks

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    research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations

     

    I remember reading about this kind of thing years ago

    back then, behaviorist researchers were working with worms, and they were using electric stimulus to ‘teach’ worms to go a certain way though a ‘maze’, using tiny shocks. Eventually they were able to ‘teach’ these worms, and then remarkably, the offspring of the worms also would go down the same maze as if they had been taught, but they hadn’t been.
     
    That was Time magazine May 1962. The researcher was Dr. Ewin Cameron who performed experiments on flatworms. The trained worms were then ground up and fed to young worms, and the the cannibal worms were able to learn the maze just a bit faster. Your summary is a gross exaggeration.

    Cameron's main claim to fame was his work on mind control and MK_ULTRA.

    All very exciting stuff from a behaviorist perspective.

     

    Epigenetics generates grant money, because is politically popular. If you read past the abstracts. the evidence for it is far from clear. Yes environment can affect the next generation, and parents are an important part of that environment. To show that brain alterations are passed into the genome, you must show that the grandchildren are affected. AFAIK that has never been demonstrated.
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  159. renfro says:
    @helena
    Amsterdam in the 15/16th? century. Venice was the trade center in the 14/15th century and then the action moved to Amsterdam where the jewish community was if not central then integral. I don't know how accurate that is. But from Amsterdam the northern European colonial phase started. and then there are the reports of slave markets closing for jewish holidays. I don't know how accurate that is. But the Judaeo-Christian aspects of the west, how the ideologies created the west and what functions each played, are not discussed and are interesting. I think the trouble is that having been not wanted for so long it's hard for jewish people now to acknowledge how well they have done.

    ” Amsterdam in the 15/16th? century. Venice was the trade center in the 14/15th century and then the action moved to Amsterdam where the jewish community was if not central then integral. I don’t know how accurate that is.”

    There is a excellent book on the beginning of the coffee trade/market in Amsterdam who’s title I cant remember right now and it mentions the Jews in Amsterdam.
    The Jews mostly came to Amsterdam from Spain and Portugal in the 1600′s …having been run out of those countries off and on.
    But Amsterdam was already a major if not the major trade center in the world in the mid 1500′s before any significant number of Jews fled there. It had huge fleets of ships that brought commodities to be sold and traded from all corners of the world.
    For that reason it was fairly liberal re the Jewish immigrants coming there because the commerce leaders viewed them as being useful as ‘go betweens ‘ to lands where the Jews had previously resided and had relatives and contacts. But Amsterdam still put restrictions on Jews…allowing them to practice Judaism but forbidding them from making derogatory statements about Christians and Catholics ….(which is why they were banished from Rome in the 1200′s ) .They were allowed to do their business but they weren’t allowed into the trade guilds and for any foreign trade deals they had to go thru a Dutch attorney. The ‘markets/exchange were also segregated by choice not by law so some Jews became ‘crypto Jews’ which enabled them to participate in the Dutch exchange and then secretly also do business in the Jewish exchange. Some of the Jews used this double identity to get in on the coffee trade as it was becoming a hot commodity which is why they were mentioned in the book.

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    You saved me some typing on the Spain to Netherlands part.

    and then from Netherlands they went to England afaik, and creating the financial capital in London.

    It was the Warburg family which came from Venice to Germany-US.

    (someone can correct me on any mistakes).
    , @helena
    Thanks, you've usefully filled a gap in my understanding.

    From the Jewish perspective, not being able to join a guild must have felt unfair. And as you point out Christian Europe found ways that the Jewish community could be 'useful'. So it seems absurd that this involvement of the Jewish community in the rise of the West (generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation) is invisible within the everyday culture people live by.
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  160. Tyrion says:
    @renfro
    I was going to make a comment to you but first decided to review your previous comments.....that got me side tracked.

    So what I want to ask you now is about this comment:

    "Finally, from what I genuinely consider a reasonably objective and dispassionate position, I believe that Jews have been a net benefit to the West, and the only people who disagree mostly blame ephemeral, hidden forces while ignoring real world accomplishments. Indeed, it is all but impossible to imagine the West without very signficant Jewish influence.''

    I am not being snarky in asking you to list specifically the Jewish accomplishments and influence you think have so contributed to the western world....I want to know what you think they are or have been told they are.

    I have asked this question of everyone who has claimed this and so far no one has ever replied with a list of Jewish influences that made the western world what it is.

    So if you can provide an answer you will be the first to ever do so in my long 15 year involvement in Israel/Palestine and the Jews.

    Apologies for the delayed reply. I did say I was done and you are asking rather a lot. A collection of books might suffice. There are plenty already written.

    Nonetheless, I have tried to give my personal view and considering that Steve Sailer is absolutely my formative intellectual influence, I hope what follows is congenial to its readers.

    Again, let me restate, this is a hastily written out gallop through Jews of importance in the success of the West. I am not expert in Judaism either, although, of course, I am Jewish.

    Western civilisation is unique. It does not meekly accept nature. It creates. Aesthetically, it does so through image and word. Judaism is the source of ‘the word’. Egypt is the source of the image. Greece collected and made beautiful both.

    Later came Jesus the Jew. For whom Christendom, once synonymous with the West, was named. I sympathise with Nietzsche but Christ was clearly a pretty important figure.

    Jews stopped playing a hugely outsized role for a while. Still, Maimonides “healthy body healthy mind” and the Jewish niche in trade furthered greater civilisation.

    The came the Enlightenment and there followed an incredible flurry of key individuals. Need I really name all of the scientific discoveries? The Nobel prizes say it all. Perhaps best to keep it with societally important paradigm shifts?

    Freud is an incredibly misunderstood thinker. His followers were idiots. If people here read him, they would like him. Without Freud there’d be no Nietzsche, for example. He dealt with people as they are.

    Hollywood may have banal politics, but it is also the Western art par excellence. Indeed it is the completeion of Ancient Egyptian statuary. Ironically, for a people who initiated the word as opposed to the image, it is a sublime visual medium that is so far from being matched by any other civilisation that it is absurd. Surely they could copy better? Watch Blade Runner 2049 and you’ll see.

    Although Adam Smith was not Jewish. Riccardo was. As is economics to a signficant extent. Including Marx, half, who was almost entirely sui generis. Contemporary Marxists are scumbags, but when Marx lived, the world was crying out for such a genius. People forget the existential horror of the early proletariat. Alternatuvely there is Austrian economics, which might as well be called Jew economics. Or everything in between.

    Or from a personal perspective. We have Britain. My country has had an awful post WWII period. But Jews and imperial Britain were hand in glove and nothing was more glorious.

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    Later came Jesus the Jew.

    Jesus followed Zoroaster’s thinking about a deity and our place in the large scheme of things – not the Old Testament cruel god of the Jews. Hope is a Christian ideal.

    Most everything Freud wrote is discarded today. Only the idea that the brain is segmented is used today. (Hmm – was that idea original to him?)

    Among the greats of science - only Einstein was Jewish.

    The best thing about the Brits – is that they brought English Common Law to much of mankind. That was built on Christian values.

    Think Peace --- Art
    , @helena
    "when Marx lived, the world was crying out for such a genius. People forget the existential horror of the early proletariat"

    We really have no proof that Marx believed anything he wrote. If an intellectual at that time and place wanted to write a best-seller, what might it be about? Was Marx the Bob Dylan of his day, tapping into a zeitgeist and giving expression to the angst of a generation?

    "Hollywood may have banal politics, but it is also the Western art par excellence"

    Jewish art and culture is schmaltzy. I love Nordic noir and over the years it seems as if an increasing involvement of Jewish people in the genre has changed it into something less subtle and more sensational. Sometimes there will be a long close-up of somebody staring mournfully - but it is out of place, it doesn't blend with the action, it doesn't offer anything to the story. It's as if someone on the production team said - 'yeah, great, Nordic noir, we need lots of long close-ups of people staring mournfully.' In other words, Nordic noir comes from the soul of Nordic people. Hollywood comes largely from the soul of Jewish people. There should be room for all groups to express themselves.

    , @renfro
    I was going to reply in full to your lofty as a down pillow list of specifics ...but cant because I am laughing myself to death.

    Go in peace.
    , @hyperbola
    I am always struck by how boring, provincial, ignorant and incestuous the little sect is. This "spiel" confirms that for me again.
    As for Nobel prizes, of the 10 "jewish" prize winners that I know, at least 7 abandoned judaism (I never asked the others). They get terribly angry when the sect tries to claim them as justification for accepting the sect's crimes.
    One has to feel sorry for those that have been subjected to brainwashing since birth by a racist-supremacist sect. They end up being such crippled, narrow-minded human beings. BUT, like most abusive sects/mafias, about 50% abandon the sect because the children do not want to continue the crimes of their parents. A hopeful sign is that we need only up that percentage slightly to wither away this mafia scourge.
    , @Art
    Including Marx, half, who was almost entirely sui generis.

    Unbelievable --- Marx does stand alone (si generis) – his communism got more people killed than any other person in human history. How many people died or starved over communism – a billion or more?

    Think Peace --- Art

    p.s. You Jews are delusional over yourselves.

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  161. polskijoe says:
    @renfro
    '' Amsterdam in the 15/16th? century. Venice was the trade center in the 14/15th century and then the action moved to Amsterdam where the jewish community was if not central then integral. I don’t know how accurate that is.''

    There is a excellent book on the beginning of the coffee trade/market in Amsterdam who's title I cant remember right now and it mentions the Jews in Amsterdam.
    The Jews mostly came to Amsterdam from Spain and Portugal in the 1600's ...having been run out of those countries off and on.
    But Amsterdam was already a major if not the major trade center in the world in the mid 1500's before any significant number of Jews fled there. It had huge fleets of ships that brought commodities to be sold and traded from all corners of the world.
    For that reason it was fairly liberal re the Jewish immigrants coming there because the commerce leaders viewed them as being useful as 'go betweens ' to lands where the Jews had previously resided and had relatives and contacts. But Amsterdam still put restrictions on Jews...allowing them to practice Judaism but forbidding them from making derogatory statements about Christians and Catholics ....(which is why they were banished from Rome in the 1200's ) .They were allowed to do their business but they weren't allowed into the trade guilds and for any foreign trade deals they had to go thru a Dutch attorney. The 'markets/exchange were also segregated by choice not by law so some Jews became 'crypto Jews' which enabled them to participate in the Dutch exchange and then secretly also do business in the Jewish exchange. Some of the Jews used this double identity to get in on the coffee trade as it was becoming a hot commodity which is why they were mentioned in the book.

    You saved me some typing on the Spain to Netherlands part.

    and then from Netherlands they went to England afaik, and creating the financial capital in London.

    It was the Warburg family which came from Venice to Germany-US.

    (someone can correct me on any mistakes).

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  162. Art says:
    @renfro
    I also understand where you are coming from but have to both agree and disagree.
    I agree that if Jews feel threatened they become more tribal.
    However I disagree that it is realistically possible to ‘help’ the Jews as a group to come to their senses so to speak and cease the tribal attitudes that are detrimental to others interest and rights.
    Here’s why…
    First you are up against 2000 years of ingrained beliefs.
    Second ..and this may be news to some…but neuroscience has proved that *structural changes occur in the brain when subjected to stress (like PTSD) …..or ‘repeated influences’…i.e….beliefs and or teachings repeated over and over within a group.
    Third..according to Duke University neuroscientist findings these structural changes in the brain are ‘inheritable’…can be genetically passed down thru generations.
    Humans aren’t that different from animals–for instance in experiments with animals researchers found that if they expose animals to a certain odor like cherry blossoms while giving them a eltroshock that when those animals reproduce and their offspring totally removed from the mother at birth….that offspring will have the same fear response to the smell of cherry blossoms the mother had.
    All of this research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations
    The only good news in this discovery is that the brain can be rewired to compensate for the altered structural of the brain…BUT it takes years and years of therapy and retraining.
    To illustrate my point about how this relates to the average Jew consider Shomo Sands, the Jewish
    historian who wrote “The Invention of the Jewish People’ and he “Wandering Who”.
    Sands announced that he was no longer a Jew …iow he renounced any Jewish ‘identity for himself because he found the Jewish state repugnant.
    BUT…despite his extremely logical and analytical brain function…another part of his brain couldnt let go of the centuries long ingrained Jewish idea of complete Jewish innocence and their irrational persecution by the ‘diseased others’. As he he wrote ..in how ‘I Ceased to be a Jew’.
    “I don’t write for anti-Semites, I regard them as totally ignorant or people who suffer from an incurable disease,”
    Also consider the liberal and anti Zionist Jews like Phil Weiss, Max Blumenthal,MJ Rosenberg—–They all go into full out panic and censorship of anything that touches on or attempts to examine Jewish ‘culture’ and how it may have brought on itself some of its travails or given rise to the anti others Zionism .
    So really what I’m saying is you cant ‘fix’ the Jews, they cant even fix themselves….and there are no signs they want to….and the world doesn’t have 2000 years or even 20 years to devote to therapy and tip toeing around the Jewish Fifth Column and Israel to protect the good Jews from the bad Jews or worry about their hurt feelings or their nightmares. They have projected their nightmares on the world, the US, Palestine, Iran, etc.etc..it has to end.
    A little fear is a healthy thing…it might not change your thinking or opinions but it can change your actions and choices.

    Second ..and this may be news to some…but neuroscience has proved that *structural changes occur in the brain when subjected to stress (like PTSD) …..or ‘repeated influences’…i.e….beliefs and or teachings repeated over and over within a group.

    This happens to Jewish children at an early age – at four or five they hear and are told that everyone wants to kill them. They are terrorized – that is traumatic to young minds. Clearly their minds are frozen in place. Jew children are pump up with an irrational unabated fear of mankind, a sense of superiority, and the encouragement to be clever (dishonest).

    When they are forty all they can do is react with childhood fear, arrogance, and lies. No matter what truth they see about themselves – they can do nothing but be defensive. Clearly they are programmed in a way that separates them from humanity.

    Think Peace —Art

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    The perversion of the children takes strange courses.

    Israel/Palestine and the Queer International – A Book Review by Gilad Atzmon
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/08/07/israelpalestine-and-the-queer-international-a-book-review-by-gilad-atzmon/
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  163. Art says:
    @Tyrion
    Apologies for the delayed reply. I did say I was done and you are asking rather a lot. A collection of books might suffice. There are plenty already written.

    Nonetheless, I have tried to give my personal view and considering that Steve Sailer is absolutely my formative intellectual influence, I hope what follows is congenial to its readers.

    Again, let me restate, this is a hastily written out gallop through Jews of importance in the success of the West. I am not expert in Judaism either, although, of course, I am Jewish.

    Western civilisation is unique. It does not meekly accept nature. It creates. Aesthetically, it does so through image and word. Judaism is the source of 'the word'. Egypt is the source of the image. Greece collected and made beautiful both.

    Later came Jesus the Jew. For whom Christendom, once synonymous with the West, was named. I sympathise with Nietzsche but Christ was clearly a pretty important figure.

    Jews stopped playing a hugely outsized role for a while. Still, Maimonides "healthy body healthy mind" and the Jewish niche in trade furthered greater civilisation.

    The came the Enlightenment and there followed an incredible flurry of key individuals. Need I really name all of the scientific discoveries? The Nobel prizes say it all. Perhaps best to keep it with societally important paradigm shifts?

    Freud is an incredibly misunderstood thinker. His followers were idiots. If people here read him, they would like him. Without Freud there'd be no Nietzsche, for example. He dealt with people as they are.

    Hollywood may have banal politics, but it is also the Western art par excellence. Indeed it is the completeion of Ancient Egyptian statuary. Ironically, for a people who initiated the word as opposed to the image, it is a sublime visual medium that is so far from being matched by any other civilisation that it is absurd. Surely they could copy better? Watch Blade Runner 2049 and you'll see.

    Although Adam Smith was not Jewish. Riccardo was. As is economics to a signficant extent. Including Marx, half, who was almost entirely sui generis. Contemporary Marxists are scumbags, but when Marx lived, the world was crying out for such a genius. People forget the existential horror of the early proletariat. Alternatuvely there is Austrian economics, which might as well be called Jew economics. Or everything in between.

    Or from a personal perspective. We have Britain. My country has had an awful post WWII period. But Jews and imperial Britain were hand in glove and nothing was more glorious.

    Later came Jesus the Jew.

    Jesus followed Zoroaster’s thinking about a deity and our place in the large scheme of things – not the Old Testament cruel god of the Jews. Hope is a Christian ideal.

    Most everything Freud wrote is discarded today. Only the idea that the brain is segmented is used today. (Hmm – was that idea original to him?)

    Among the greats of science – only Einstein was Jewish.

    The best thing about the Brits – is that they brought English Common Law to much of mankind. That was built on Christian values.

    Think Peace — Art

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  164. Art says:
    @Anon
    The difference between Jews and other groups, with regard to ostracism as a penalty, is that Jews seem to have originated, perfected, and disseminated the techniques, at least in the quasi-democratic post-Enlightenment world. When I was a kid there was no such thing as being forced to undergo "sensitivity training" or "diversity training" or "gender equity training." The idea of "re-educating" people who hold "incorrect" views is a Communist idea and like most of those, has been mainly promoted by Jews, using their wealth to incent politicians to go along. Similarly, the increasing call to ostracize and ruin those found 'guilty' of 'hate' seems totally Jewish to me. Sure, many blacks and women will go along with it, but mainly because it is understood that it won't be used against them and the grant money will be there for those who sign on. I don't see Jews as INNATELY disposed to any disagreeable behavior and I oppose any discriminatory measures against Jews, but I reserve the right to sociologize about their group politics, and I think the need for discussion is urgent.

    I don’t see Jews as INNATELY disposed to any disagreeable behavior and I oppose any discriminatory measures against Jews, but I reserve the right to sociologize about their group politics, and I think the need for discussion is urgent.

    At some point one has to take a stance against tribal Jews. They will take over your freedom if you do not.

    The rational stance is to ostracize – to push away – to NOT assemble with those who are antagonistic to us. This is moral because it does no overt harm.

    Think Peace — Art

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  165. helena says:
    @renfro
    '' Amsterdam in the 15/16th? century. Venice was the trade center in the 14/15th century and then the action moved to Amsterdam where the jewish community was if not central then integral. I don’t know how accurate that is.''

    There is a excellent book on the beginning of the coffee trade/market in Amsterdam who's title I cant remember right now and it mentions the Jews in Amsterdam.
    The Jews mostly came to Amsterdam from Spain and Portugal in the 1600's ...having been run out of those countries off and on.
    But Amsterdam was already a major if not the major trade center in the world in the mid 1500's before any significant number of Jews fled there. It had huge fleets of ships that brought commodities to be sold and traded from all corners of the world.
    For that reason it was fairly liberal re the Jewish immigrants coming there because the commerce leaders viewed them as being useful as 'go betweens ' to lands where the Jews had previously resided and had relatives and contacts. But Amsterdam still put restrictions on Jews...allowing them to practice Judaism but forbidding them from making derogatory statements about Christians and Catholics ....(which is why they were banished from Rome in the 1200's ) .They were allowed to do their business but they weren't allowed into the trade guilds and for any foreign trade deals they had to go thru a Dutch attorney. The 'markets/exchange were also segregated by choice not by law so some Jews became 'crypto Jews' which enabled them to participate in the Dutch exchange and then secretly also do business in the Jewish exchange. Some of the Jews used this double identity to get in on the coffee trade as it was becoming a hot commodity which is why they were mentioned in the book.

    Thanks, you’ve usefully filled a gap in my understanding.

    From the Jewish perspective, not being able to join a guild must have felt unfair. And as you point out Christian Europe found ways that the Jewish community could be ‘useful’. So it seems absurd that this involvement of the Jewish community in the rise of the West (generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation) is invisible within the everyday culture people live by.

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    '' From the Jewish perspective, not being able to join a guild must have felt unfair.''

    Not really, the Jews didnt want to assimilate ....be part of non Jewish orgs. Amsterdam was unique in my reading of that history....Jews got along there actually because they didnt assimilate. In the coffee trade one of the crypto Jews got into serious trouble for not reporting on a deal he had invested in (putting up money for a coffee shipping voyage with a gentile ship owner)...the Jews had what I guess you could call 'monitors' or elders who kept tabs on the activities of their fellow Jews and didn't approve of any private 'partnerships' outside their own group that other Jews weren't in on or that wasn't sanctioned by the elder. The Dutch and the Jews stayed mostly separate in everything no mixed marriages, no socializing, lived in different areas of the city....and that was by choice of both the Jews and the Dutch....evidently it worked well enough for everyone's purpose.

    '' So it seems absurd that this involvement of the Jewish community in the rise of the West (generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation) is invisible within the everyday culture people live by''

    Its visible in the culture of Hollywood, publishing, the media, and finance (although they had nothing to do with creation of WS). ..if you understand those segments are heavily Jewish dominated. I don't consider those industries to be a current positive for our culture... but it is what it is.

    Judaeo-Christian is a political construct.....Judaism and Christianity got a divorce due to 'irreconcilable differences' a long time ago.
    , @renfro
    '' generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation''

    Just a bit more on this.

    You can scan the history of the term but basically what it comes down to today is this:

    The Jewish groups for Israel as far back as 1940 have endeavored to portray the US and Israel as having 'common values and interest' in order to get the Americans to support Israel.
    They have put out volumes of propaganda on the Jewish role in 'founding America' and etc..
    Judeo-Christian has been part of that propaganda since the 40's...trying to link the US mainly Christian state to Israel thru religion.
    Now we have a great mess..... the Evangelicals who support Israel because they believe God will rapture them up and french fry any Jews who don't convert are in league with the US Zionist Fifth Column in our politics to make sure the US taxpayers keep protecting and bank rolling Israel until the time of the rapture.
    Meanwhile more mainline churches are dropping the Judeo Christian jingo because of Israel's human rights violation.
    And on top of that you have the Uber Judaism type Jews who are also against the Judeo Christian jingo because they think it will swallow up Judaism and they will no longer be 'distinctive'.
    If we could get rid of the evangelical fanatics and the Zionist Fifth Column for Israel in the US we might have a little peace , no ME wars and be able to spend our billions on worth while things.




    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    ' Promoting the concept of United States as a Judeo-Christian nation based upon Judeo-Christian ethics first became a political program in the 1940s, in response to the growth of anti-Semitism in America. (anti semitism rose due to the Jewish agitation for the US to enter the war against Germany and those like Lindberg who called out the Zionist as behind the cry for war)

    In this effort, precursors of the National Conference of Christians and Jews created teams consisting of a priest, a rabbi, and a minister, to run programs across the country, and fashion a more pluralistic America, no longer defined as a Christian land, but "one nurtured by three ennobling traditions: Protestantism, Catholicism and Judaism....The phrase 'Judeo-Christian' entered the contemporary lexicon as the standard liberal term for the idea that Western values rest on a religious consensus that included Jews."
    Through soul-searching in the aftermath of the Holocaust, "there was a revolution in Christian theology in America. […] The greatest shift in Christian attitudes toward the Jewish people since Constantine converted the Roman Empire."[10] The rise of Christian Zionism—that is, religiously motivated Christian interest and support for the state of Israel—along with a growth of philo-Semitism (love of the Jewish people) has increased interest among American Evangelicals in Judaism, especially areas of commonality with their own beliefs about the second coming.
    During the late 1940s, Evangelical proponents of the new Judeo-Christian approach lobbied Washington for diplomatic support of the new state of Israel. The Evangelicals have never wavered in their support for Israel. On the other hand, by the late 1960s Mainline Protestant denominations and the National Council of Churches were showing more support for the Palestinians than for the Israelis.[11]

    Law professor Stephen M. Feldman looking at the period before 1950, chiefly in Europe, sees religious conflict as supersessionism:
    Once one recognizes that Christianity has historically engendered antisemitism, then this so-called tradition appears as dangerous Christian dogma (at least from a Jewish perspective). For Christians, the concept of a Judeo-Christian tradition comfortably suggests that Judaism progresses into Christianity—that Judaism is somehow completed in Christianity. The concept of a Judeo-Christian tradition flows from the Christian theology of supersession, whereby the Christian covenant (or Testament) with God supersedes the Jewish one. Christianity, according to this myth, reforms and replaces Judaism. The myth therefore implies, first, that Judaism needs reformation and replacement, and second, that modern Judaism remains merely as a "relic". Most importantly the myth of the Judeo-Christian tradition insidiously obscures the real and significant differences between Judaism and Christianity.[18]

    Two notable books addressed the relations between contemporary Judaism and Christianity, Abba Hillel Silver's Where Judaism Differs and Leo Baeck's Judaism and Christianity, both motivated by an impulse to clarify Judaism's distinctiveness "in a world where the term Judeo-Christian had obscured critical differences between the two faiths."[15] Reacting against the blurring of theological distinctions, Rabbi Eliezer Berkovits wrote that "Judaism is Judaism because it rejects Christianity, and Christianity is Christianity because it rejects Judaism."[16] Theologian and author Arthur A. Cohen, in The Myth of the Judeo-Christian Tradition, questioned the theological validity of the Judeo-Christian concept and suggested that it was essentially an invention of American politics, while Jacob Neusner, in Jews and Christians: The Myth of a Common Tradition, writes, "The two faiths stand for different people talking about different things to different people."[17]


    Caitlyn Carenen, The Fervent Embrace: Liberal Protestants, Evangelicals, and Israel (2012

    Brog, David. Standing With Israel. 2006.

    The Myth of the Judeo-Christian Tradition
    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-myth-of-the-judeo-christian-tradition/
    , @Art
    (generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation)

    helena,

    "Judeo-Christian" is another propaganda term promoted by the Jews – it is an oxymoron.

    The Jews propagandize by creating false terms and words. Their motto is “By deception we make war.”

    Judeo-Christian – anti-Semitic – anti-defamation – holocaust – blood libel – are all lies pushed into language by Jews.

    Think Peace --- Art
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  166. helena says:
    @Tyrion
    Apologies for the delayed reply. I did say I was done and you are asking rather a lot. A collection of books might suffice. There are plenty already written.

    Nonetheless, I have tried to give my personal view and considering that Steve Sailer is absolutely my formative intellectual influence, I hope what follows is congenial to its readers.

    Again, let me restate, this is a hastily written out gallop through Jews of importance in the success of the West. I am not expert in Judaism either, although, of course, I am Jewish.

    Western civilisation is unique. It does not meekly accept nature. It creates. Aesthetically, it does so through image and word. Judaism is the source of 'the word'. Egypt is the source of the image. Greece collected and made beautiful both.

    Later came Jesus the Jew. For whom Christendom, once synonymous with the West, was named. I sympathise with Nietzsche but Christ was clearly a pretty important figure.

    Jews stopped playing a hugely outsized role for a while. Still, Maimonides "healthy body healthy mind" and the Jewish niche in trade furthered greater civilisation.

    The came the Enlightenment and there followed an incredible flurry of key individuals. Need I really name all of the scientific discoveries? The Nobel prizes say it all. Perhaps best to keep it with societally important paradigm shifts?

    Freud is an incredibly misunderstood thinker. His followers were idiots. If people here read him, they would like him. Without Freud there'd be no Nietzsche, for example. He dealt with people as they are.

    Hollywood may have banal politics, but it is also the Western art par excellence. Indeed it is the completeion of Ancient Egyptian statuary. Ironically, for a people who initiated the word as opposed to the image, it is a sublime visual medium that is so far from being matched by any other civilisation that it is absurd. Surely they could copy better? Watch Blade Runner 2049 and you'll see.

    Although Adam Smith was not Jewish. Riccardo was. As is economics to a signficant extent. Including Marx, half, who was almost entirely sui generis. Contemporary Marxists are scumbags, but when Marx lived, the world was crying out for such a genius. People forget the existential horror of the early proletariat. Alternatuvely there is Austrian economics, which might as well be called Jew economics. Or everything in between.

    Or from a personal perspective. We have Britain. My country has had an awful post WWII period. But Jews and imperial Britain were hand in glove and nothing was more glorious.

    “when Marx lived, the world was crying out for such a genius. People forget the existential horror of the early proletariat”

    We really have no proof that Marx believed anything he wrote. If an intellectual at that time and place wanted to write a best-seller, what might it be about? Was Marx the Bob Dylan of his day, tapping into a zeitgeist and giving expression to the angst of a generation?

    “Hollywood may have banal politics, but it is also the Western art par excellence”

    Jewish art and culture is schmaltzy. I love Nordic noir and over the years it seems as if an increasing involvement of Jewish people in the genre has changed it into something less subtle and more sensational. Sometimes there will be a long close-up of somebody staring mournfully – but it is out of place, it doesn’t blend with the action, it doesn’t offer anything to the story. It’s as if someone on the production team said – ‘yeah, great, Nordic noir, we need lots of long close-ups of people staring mournfully.’ In other words, Nordic noir comes from the soul of Nordic people. Hollywood comes largely from the soul of Jewish people. There should be room for all groups to express themselves.

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  167. renfro says:
    @helena
    Thanks, you've usefully filled a gap in my understanding.

    From the Jewish perspective, not being able to join a guild must have felt unfair. And as you point out Christian Europe found ways that the Jewish community could be 'useful'. So it seems absurd that this involvement of the Jewish community in the rise of the West (generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation) is invisible within the everyday culture people live by.

    ” From the Jewish perspective, not being able to join a guild must have felt unfair.”

    Not really, the Jews didnt want to assimilate ….be part of non Jewish orgs. Amsterdam was unique in my reading of that history….Jews got along there actually because they didnt assimilate. In the coffee trade one of the crypto Jews got into serious trouble for not reporting on a deal he had invested in (putting up money for a coffee shipping voyage with a gentile ship owner)…the Jews had what I guess you could call ‘monitors’ or elders who kept tabs on the activities of their fellow Jews and didn’t approve of any private ‘partnerships’ outside their own group that other Jews weren’t in on or that wasn’t sanctioned by the elder. The Dutch and the Jews stayed mostly separate in everything no mixed marriages, no socializing, lived in different areas of the city….and that was by choice of both the Jews and the Dutch….evidently it worked well enough for everyone’s purpose.

    ” So it seems absurd that this involvement of the Jewish community in the rise of the West (generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation) is invisible within the everyday culture people live by”

    Its visible in the culture of Hollywood, publishing, the media, and finance (although they had nothing to do with creation of WS). ..if you understand those segments are heavily Jewish dominated. I don’t consider those industries to be a current positive for our culture… but it is what it is.

    Judaeo-Christian is a political construct…..Judaism and Christianity got a divorce due to ‘irreconcilable differences’ a long time ago.

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  168. renfro says:
    @Tyrion
    Apologies for the delayed reply. I did say I was done and you are asking rather a lot. A collection of books might suffice. There are plenty already written.

    Nonetheless, I have tried to give my personal view and considering that Steve Sailer is absolutely my formative intellectual influence, I hope what follows is congenial to its readers.

    Again, let me restate, this is a hastily written out gallop through Jews of importance in the success of the West. I am not expert in Judaism either, although, of course, I am Jewish.

    Western civilisation is unique. It does not meekly accept nature. It creates. Aesthetically, it does so through image and word. Judaism is the source of 'the word'. Egypt is the source of the image. Greece collected and made beautiful both.

    Later came Jesus the Jew. For whom Christendom, once synonymous with the West, was named. I sympathise with Nietzsche but Christ was clearly a pretty important figure.

    Jews stopped playing a hugely outsized role for a while. Still, Maimonides "healthy body healthy mind" and the Jewish niche in trade furthered greater civilisation.

    The came the Enlightenment and there followed an incredible flurry of key individuals. Need I really name all of the scientific discoveries? The Nobel prizes say it all. Perhaps best to keep it with societally important paradigm shifts?

    Freud is an incredibly misunderstood thinker. His followers were idiots. If people here read him, they would like him. Without Freud there'd be no Nietzsche, for example. He dealt with people as they are.

    Hollywood may have banal politics, but it is also the Western art par excellence. Indeed it is the completeion of Ancient Egyptian statuary. Ironically, for a people who initiated the word as opposed to the image, it is a sublime visual medium that is so far from being matched by any other civilisation that it is absurd. Surely they could copy better? Watch Blade Runner 2049 and you'll see.

    Although Adam Smith was not Jewish. Riccardo was. As is economics to a signficant extent. Including Marx, half, who was almost entirely sui generis. Contemporary Marxists are scumbags, but when Marx lived, the world was crying out for such a genius. People forget the existential horror of the early proletariat. Alternatuvely there is Austrian economics, which might as well be called Jew economics. Or everything in between.

    Or from a personal perspective. We have Britain. My country has had an awful post WWII period. But Jews and imperial Britain were hand in glove and nothing was more glorious.

    I was going to reply in full to your lofty as a down pillow list of specifics …but cant because I am laughing myself to death.

    Go in peace.

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  169. renfro says:
    @helena
    Thanks, you've usefully filled a gap in my understanding.

    From the Jewish perspective, not being able to join a guild must have felt unfair. And as you point out Christian Europe found ways that the Jewish community could be 'useful'. So it seems absurd that this involvement of the Jewish community in the rise of the West (generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation) is invisible within the everyday culture people live by.

    ” generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation”

    Just a bit more on this.

    You can scan the history of the term but basically what it comes down to today is this:

    The Jewish groups for Israel as far back as 1940 have endeavored to portray the US and Israel as having ‘common values and interest’ in order to get the Americans to support Israel.
    They have put out volumes of propaganda on the Jewish role in ‘founding America’ and etc..
    Judeo-Christian has been part of that propaganda since the 40′s…trying to link the US mainly Christian state to Israel thru religion.
    Now we have a great mess….. the Evangelicals who support Israel because they believe God will rapture them up and french fry any Jews who don’t convert are in league with the US Zionist Fifth Column in our politics to make sure the US taxpayers keep protecting and bank rolling Israel until the time of the rapture.
    Meanwhile more mainline churches are dropping the Judeo Christian jingo because of Israel’s human rights violation.
    And on top of that you have the Uber Judaism type Jews who are also against the Judeo Christian jingo because they think it will swallow up Judaism and they will no longer be ‘distinctive’.
    If we could get rid of the evangelical fanatics and the Zionist Fifth Column for Israel in the US we might have a little peace , no ME wars and be able to spend our billions on worth while things.

    [MORE]

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    ‘ Promoting the concept of United States as a Judeo-Christian nation based upon Judeo-Christian ethics first became a political program in the 1940s, in response to the growth of anti-Semitism in America. (anti semitism rose due to the Jewish agitation for the US to enter the war against Germany and those like Lindberg who called out the Zionist as behind the cry for war)

    In this effort, precursors of the National Conference of Christians and Jews created teams consisting of a priest, a rabbi, and a minister, to run programs across the country, and fashion a more pluralistic America, no longer defined as a Christian land, but “one nurtured by three ennobling traditions: Protestantism, Catholicism and Judaism….The phrase ‘Judeo-Christian’ entered the contemporary lexicon as the standard liberal term for the idea that Western values rest on a religious consensus that included Jews.”
    Through soul-searching in the aftermath of the Holocaust, “there was a revolution in Christian theology in America. […] The greatest shift in Christian attitudes toward the Jewish people since Constantine converted the Roman Empire.”[10] The rise of Christian Zionism—that is, religiously motivated Christian interest and support for the state of Israel—along with a growth of philo-Semitism (love of the Jewish people) has increased interest among American Evangelicals in Judaism, especially areas of commonality with their own beliefs about the second coming.
    During the late 1940s, Evangelical proponents of the new Judeo-Christian approach lobbied Washington for diplomatic support of the new state of Israel. The Evangelicals have never wavered in their support for Israel. On the other hand, by the late 1960s Mainline Protestant denominations and the National Council of Churches were showing more support for the Palestinians than for the Israelis.[11]

    Law professor Stephen M. Feldman looking at the period before 1950, chiefly in Europe, sees religious conflict as supersessionism:
    Once one recognizes that Christianity has historically engendered antisemitism, then this so-called tradition appears as dangerous Christian dogma (at least from a Jewish perspective). For Christians, the concept of a Judeo-Christian tradition comfortably suggests that Judaism progresses into Christianity—that Judaism is somehow completed in Christianity. The concept of a Judeo-Christian tradition flows from the Christian theology of supersession, whereby the Christian covenant (or Testament) with God supersedes the Jewish one. Christianity, according to this myth, reforms and replaces Judaism. The myth therefore implies, first, that Judaism needs reformation and replacement, and second, that modern Judaism remains merely as a “relic”. Most importantly the myth of the Judeo-Christian tradition insidiously obscures the real and significant differences between Judaism and Christianity.[18]

    Two notable books addressed the relations between contemporary Judaism and Christianity, Abba Hillel Silver’s Where Judaism Differs and Leo Baeck’s Judaism and Christianity, both motivated by an impulse to clarify Judaism’s distinctiveness “in a world where the term Judeo-Christian had obscured critical differences between the two faiths.”[15] Reacting against the blurring of theological distinctions, Rabbi Eliezer Berkovits wrote that “Judaism is Judaism because it rejects Christianity, and Christianity is Christianity because it rejects Judaism.”[16] Theologian and author Arthur A. Cohen, in The Myth of the Judeo-Christian Tradition, questioned the theological validity of the Judeo-Christian concept and suggested that it was essentially an invention of American politics, while Jacob Neusner, in Jews and Christians: The Myth of a Common Tradition, writes, “The two faiths stand for different people talking about different things to different people.”[17]

    Caitlyn Carenen, The Fervent Embrace: Liberal Protestants, Evangelicals, and Israel (2012

    Brog, David. Standing With Israel. 2006.

    The Myth of the Judeo-Christian Tradition

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-myth-of-the-judeo-christian-tradition/

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  170. @renfro
    '' generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation''

    Just a bit more on this.

    You can scan the history of the term but basically what it comes down to today is this:

    The Jewish groups for Israel as far back as 1940 have endeavored to portray the US and Israel as having 'common values and interest' in order to get the Americans to support Israel.
    They have put out volumes of propaganda on the Jewish role in 'founding America' and etc..
    Judeo-Christian has been part of that propaganda since the 40's...trying to link the US mainly Christian state to Israel thru religion.
    Now we have a great mess..... the Evangelicals who support Israel because they believe God will rapture them up and french fry any Jews who don't convert are in league with the US Zionist Fifth Column in our politics to make sure the US taxpayers keep protecting and bank rolling Israel until the time of the rapture.
    Meanwhile more mainline churches are dropping the Judeo Christian jingo because of Israel's human rights violation.
    And on top of that you have the Uber Judaism type Jews who are also against the Judeo Christian jingo because they think it will swallow up Judaism and they will no longer be 'distinctive'.
    If we could get rid of the evangelical fanatics and the Zionist Fifth Column for Israel in the US we might have a little peace , no ME wars and be able to spend our billions on worth while things.




    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    ' Promoting the concept of United States as a Judeo-Christian nation based upon Judeo-Christian ethics first became a political program in the 1940s, in response to the growth of anti-Semitism in America. (anti semitism rose due to the Jewish agitation for the US to enter the war against Germany and those like Lindberg who called out the Zionist as behind the cry for war)

    In this effort, precursors of the National Conference of Christians and Jews created teams consisting of a priest, a rabbi, and a minister, to run programs across the country, and fashion a more pluralistic America, no longer defined as a Christian land, but "one nurtured by three ennobling traditions: Protestantism, Catholicism and Judaism....The phrase 'Judeo-Christian' entered the contemporary lexicon as the standard liberal term for the idea that Western values rest on a religious consensus that included Jews."
    Through soul-searching in the aftermath of the Holocaust, "there was a revolution in Christian theology in America. […] The greatest shift in Christian attitudes toward the Jewish people since Constantine converted the Roman Empire."[10] The rise of Christian Zionism—that is, religiously motivated Christian interest and support for the state of Israel—along with a growth of philo-Semitism (love of the Jewish people) has increased interest among American Evangelicals in Judaism, especially areas of commonality with their own beliefs about the second coming.
    During the late 1940s, Evangelical proponents of the new Judeo-Christian approach lobbied Washington for diplomatic support of the new state of Israel. The Evangelicals have never wavered in their support for Israel. On the other hand, by the late 1960s Mainline Protestant denominations and the National Council of Churches were showing more support for the Palestinians than for the Israelis.[11]

    Law professor Stephen M. Feldman looking at the period before 1950, chiefly in Europe, sees religious conflict as supersessionism:
    Once one recognizes that Christianity has historically engendered antisemitism, then this so-called tradition appears as dangerous Christian dogma (at least from a Jewish perspective). For Christians, the concept of a Judeo-Christian tradition comfortably suggests that Judaism progresses into Christianity—that Judaism is somehow completed in Christianity. The concept of a Judeo-Christian tradition flows from the Christian theology of supersession, whereby the Christian covenant (or Testament) with God supersedes the Jewish one. Christianity, according to this myth, reforms and replaces Judaism. The myth therefore implies, first, that Judaism needs reformation and replacement, and second, that modern Judaism remains merely as a "relic". Most importantly the myth of the Judeo-Christian tradition insidiously obscures the real and significant differences between Judaism and Christianity.[18]

    Two notable books addressed the relations between contemporary Judaism and Christianity, Abba Hillel Silver's Where Judaism Differs and Leo Baeck's Judaism and Christianity, both motivated by an impulse to clarify Judaism's distinctiveness "in a world where the term Judeo-Christian had obscured critical differences between the two faiths."[15] Reacting against the blurring of theological distinctions, Rabbi Eliezer Berkovits wrote that "Judaism is Judaism because it rejects Christianity, and Christianity is Christianity because it rejects Judaism."[16] Theologian and author Arthur A. Cohen, in The Myth of the Judeo-Christian Tradition, questioned the theological validity of the Judeo-Christian concept and suggested that it was essentially an invention of American politics, while Jacob Neusner, in Jews and Christians: The Myth of a Common Tradition, writes, "The two faiths stand for different people talking about different things to different people."[17]


    Caitlyn Carenen, The Fervent Embrace: Liberal Protestants, Evangelicals, and Israel (2012

    Brog, David. Standing With Israel. 2006.

    The Myth of the Judeo-Christian Tradition
    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-myth-of-the-judeo-christian-tradition/

    good contribution. thanks.

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  171. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Rurik

    research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations
     
    I remember reading about this kind of thing years ago

    back then, behaviorist researchers were working with worms, and they were using electric stimulus to 'teach' worms to go a certain way though a 'maze', using tiny shocks. Eventually they were able to 'teach' these worms, and then remarkably, the offspring of the worms also would go down the same maze as if they had been taught, but they hadn't been. The 'knowledge' had been passed though genetically. I remember reading about how it was though the RNA (ribonucleic acid) that the transfer had taken place. All very exciting stuff from a behaviorist perspective.

    And rings true in the interesting and salient context you provide.

    thanks

    research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations

    I remember reading about this kind of thing years ago

    back then, behaviorist researchers were working with worms, and they were using electric stimulus to ‘teach’ worms to go a certain way though a ‘maze’, using tiny shocks. Eventually they were able to ‘teach’ these worms, and then remarkably, the offspring of the worms also would go down the same maze as if they had been taught, but they hadn’t been.

    That was Time magazine May 1962. The researcher was Dr. Ewin Cameron who performed experiments on flatworms. The trained worms were then ground up and fed to young worms, and the the cannibal worms were able to learn the maze just a bit faster. Your summary is a gross exaggeration.

    Cameron’s main claim to fame was his work on mind control and MK_ULTRA.

    All very exciting stuff from a behaviorist perspective.

    Epigenetics generates grant money, because is politically popular. If you read past the abstracts. the evidence for it is far from clear. Yes environment can affect the next generation, and parents are an important part of that environment. To show that brain alterations are passed into the genome, you must show that the grandchildren are affected. AFAIK that has never been demonstrated.

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    The trained worms were then ground up and fed to young worms, and the the cannibal worms were able to learn the maze just a bit faster. Your summary is a gross exaggeration.
     
    after writing that the worms were the offspring of the 'trained' worms, I remembered that they actually were fed to the trained worms, but I didn't come back and clarify, so thank you for doing so.

    It is a gross summary, (I'm hardly a scholar, and wouldn't pretend to be- and as I said, I read it long ago), but the point is the same, that knowledge doesn't necessarily have to come about by 'learning'. IOW 'knowledge' can be imparted in ways other than via the senses, and this is relevant to understanding behavior.

    To show that brain alterations are passed into the genome, you must show that the grandchildren are affected
     
    let's say you're a woman in Palestine, and your parents were slaughtered when you were eight. You grew up, had some kids, all subject to depravation and humiliations and various types of social, physical and emotional trauma. They have kids, and are subject to the same lifestyles. And this cycle goes on generation after generation.

    Now I don't have any scientific methods or metrics for determining whether or how much such conditions are effecting the actual genes or gene expression, but these environmental conditions must certainly be effecting the physical health and well-being of the people in such circumstances, no?

    And as such, would be having a definite and verifiable effect on their myriad behavioral patterns, it would seem to me. Which, would potentially have an effect on their reproductive health.

    Just consider, in the West today, there is a phenomena that is effecting the sperm counts of Western men. Science doesn't know exactly what is causing it, but the effects are measurable.

    Now, just for fun, lets hypothesize that this phenomena is not random, but is rather a causality of some new change in the environment. And that this change is having the effect of reducing the percentage of sperm cells that contain more proclivities to this behavior or that.

    Now- if so, isn't it possible that such environmental changes might potentially have a direct effect on the behavior of the later generations of offspring that were effected by the deleterious sperm?

    And if so, then isn't' it perfectly possible for the environment to directly effect the DNA of a genome? Either selecting for one behavior or another, including potentially intelligence, for instance?

    If I were a mad scientist (or a power-crazed billionaire or government), and wanted to experiment with the offspring of a certain person so as to be different than what his parents were, isn't it possible for me to tweak that DNA, let's say in a futuristic lab, and select for the traits I would consider preferable?

    Obviously this is possible in a theory, (if not being practiced today in thousands of black-site labs all over the planet)

    And if so, then what's to stop genes from being altered by forces in nature, that are ultimately inherited, if not intentionally altered by a 'mad scientist', but simply by environmental circumstances like culture or diet or habit? Just as Western men's sperm counts are being altered by something, which presumably will have long term genome consequences, and therefor necessarily behavioral consequences.
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  172. hyperbola says:
    @Tyrion
    Apologies for the delayed reply. I did say I was done and you are asking rather a lot. A collection of books might suffice. There are plenty already written.

    Nonetheless, I have tried to give my personal view and considering that Steve Sailer is absolutely my formative intellectual influence, I hope what follows is congenial to its readers.

    Again, let me restate, this is a hastily written out gallop through Jews of importance in the success of the West. I am not expert in Judaism either, although, of course, I am Jewish.

    Western civilisation is unique. It does not meekly accept nature. It creates. Aesthetically, it does so through image and word. Judaism is the source of 'the word'. Egypt is the source of the image. Greece collected and made beautiful both.

    Later came Jesus the Jew. For whom Christendom, once synonymous with the West, was named. I sympathise with Nietzsche but Christ was clearly a pretty important figure.

    Jews stopped playing a hugely outsized role for a while. Still, Maimonides "healthy body healthy mind" and the Jewish niche in trade furthered greater civilisation.

    The came the Enlightenment and there followed an incredible flurry of key individuals. Need I really name all of the scientific discoveries? The Nobel prizes say it all. Perhaps best to keep it with societally important paradigm shifts?

    Freud is an incredibly misunderstood thinker. His followers were idiots. If people here read him, they would like him. Without Freud there'd be no Nietzsche, for example. He dealt with people as they are.

    Hollywood may have banal politics, but it is also the Western art par excellence. Indeed it is the completeion of Ancient Egyptian statuary. Ironically, for a people who initiated the word as opposed to the image, it is a sublime visual medium that is so far from being matched by any other civilisation that it is absurd. Surely they could copy better? Watch Blade Runner 2049 and you'll see.

    Although Adam Smith was not Jewish. Riccardo was. As is economics to a signficant extent. Including Marx, half, who was almost entirely sui generis. Contemporary Marxists are scumbags, but when Marx lived, the world was crying out for such a genius. People forget the existential horror of the early proletariat. Alternatuvely there is Austrian economics, which might as well be called Jew economics. Or everything in between.

    Or from a personal perspective. We have Britain. My country has had an awful post WWII period. But Jews and imperial Britain were hand in glove and nothing was more glorious.

    I am always struck by how boring, provincial, ignorant and incestuous the little sect is. This “spiel” confirms that for me again.
    As for Nobel prizes, of the 10 “jewish” prize winners that I know, at least 7 abandoned judaism (I never asked the others). They get terribly angry when the sect tries to claim them as justification for accepting the sect’s crimes.
    One has to feel sorry for those that have been subjected to brainwashing since birth by a racist-supremacist sect. They end up being such crippled, narrow-minded human beings. BUT, like most abusive sects/mafias, about 50% abandon the sect because the children do not want to continue the crimes of their parents. A hopeful sign is that we need only up that percentage slightly to wither away this mafia scourge.

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  173. hyperbola says:
    @Art

    Second ..and this may be news to some…but neuroscience has proved that *structural changes occur in the brain when subjected to stress (like PTSD) …..or ‘repeated influences’…i.e….beliefs and or teachings repeated over and over within a group.
     
    This happens to Jewish children at an early age - at four or five they hear and are told that everyone wants to kill them. They are terrorized - that is traumatic to young minds. Clearly their minds are frozen in place. Jew children are pump up with an irrational unabated fear of mankind, a sense of superiority, and the encouragement to be clever (dishonest).

    When they are forty all they can do is react with childhood fear, arrogance, and lies. No matter what truth they see about themselves - they can do nothing but be defensive. Clearly they are programmed in a way that separates them from humanity.

    Think Peace ---Art

    The perversion of the children takes strange courses.

    Israel/Palestine and the Queer International – A Book Review by Gilad Atzmon

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  174. Art says:
    @helena
    Thanks, you've usefully filled a gap in my understanding.

    From the Jewish perspective, not being able to join a guild must have felt unfair. And as you point out Christian Europe found ways that the Jewish community could be 'useful'. So it seems absurd that this involvement of the Jewish community in the rise of the West (generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation) is invisible within the everyday culture people live by.

    (generally acknowledged to be a Judaeo-Christian civilisation)

    helena,

    “Judeo-Christian” is another propaganda term promoted by the Jews – it is an oxymoron.

    The Jews propagandize by creating false terms and words. Their motto is “By deception we make war.”

    Judeo-Christian – anti-Semitic – anti-defamation – holocaust – blood libel – are all lies pushed into language by Jews.

    Think Peace — Art

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  175. Art says:
    @Tyrion
    Apologies for the delayed reply. I did say I was done and you are asking rather a lot. A collection of books might suffice. There are plenty already written.

    Nonetheless, I have tried to give my personal view and considering that Steve Sailer is absolutely my formative intellectual influence, I hope what follows is congenial to its readers.

    Again, let me restate, this is a hastily written out gallop through Jews of importance in the success of the West. I am not expert in Judaism either, although, of course, I am Jewish.

    Western civilisation is unique. It does not meekly accept nature. It creates. Aesthetically, it does so through image and word. Judaism is the source of 'the word'. Egypt is the source of the image. Greece collected and made beautiful both.

    Later came Jesus the Jew. For whom Christendom, once synonymous with the West, was named. I sympathise with Nietzsche but Christ was clearly a pretty important figure.

    Jews stopped playing a hugely outsized role for a while. Still, Maimonides "healthy body healthy mind" and the Jewish niche in trade furthered greater civilisation.

    The came the Enlightenment and there followed an incredible flurry of key individuals. Need I really name all of the scientific discoveries? The Nobel prizes say it all. Perhaps best to keep it with societally important paradigm shifts?

    Freud is an incredibly misunderstood thinker. His followers were idiots. If people here read him, they would like him. Without Freud there'd be no Nietzsche, for example. He dealt with people as they are.

    Hollywood may have banal politics, but it is also the Western art par excellence. Indeed it is the completeion of Ancient Egyptian statuary. Ironically, for a people who initiated the word as opposed to the image, it is a sublime visual medium that is so far from being matched by any other civilisation that it is absurd. Surely they could copy better? Watch Blade Runner 2049 and you'll see.

    Although Adam Smith was not Jewish. Riccardo was. As is economics to a signficant extent. Including Marx, half, who was almost entirely sui generis. Contemporary Marxists are scumbags, but when Marx lived, the world was crying out for such a genius. People forget the existential horror of the early proletariat. Alternatuvely there is Austrian economics, which might as well be called Jew economics. Or everything in between.

    Or from a personal perspective. We have Britain. My country has had an awful post WWII period. But Jews and imperial Britain were hand in glove and nothing was more glorious.

    Including Marx, half, who was almost entirely sui generis.

    Unbelievable — Marx does stand alone (si generis) – his communism got more people killed than any other person in human history. How many people died or starved over communism – a billion or more?

    Think Peace — Art

    p.s. You Jews are delusional over yourselves.

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  176. Reminds me of someone I met on a trip to Israel. A 72 year old American Jew from Martha’s Vineyard. He visited Israel often, had a kid in its army. He was a nice guy but even tho he had never visited the American South he was convinced he knew everything about it n he had great contempt for the South n Southerners for their ‘racism’.

    His attitude toward Arabs is what surprised me. He regarded them as subhuman n made many racist remarks about tbem, without seeing the contradiction in his outlook. Very enlightening as to the Northeast Jewish mentality, if he was in any way typical.

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  177. Rurik says:
    @Hu Mi Yu


    research shows that brain alterations can be transferred into the genome, allowing them to be passed on to later generations

     

    I remember reading about this kind of thing years ago

    back then, behaviorist researchers were working with worms, and they were using electric stimulus to ‘teach’ worms to go a certain way though a ‘maze’, using tiny shocks. Eventually they were able to ‘teach’ these worms, and then remarkably, the offspring of the worms also would go down the same maze as if they had been taught, but they hadn’t been.
     
    That was Time magazine May 1962. The researcher was Dr. Ewin Cameron who performed experiments on flatworms. The trained worms were then ground up and fed to young worms, and the the cannibal worms were able to learn the maze just a bit faster. Your summary is a gross exaggeration.

    Cameron's main claim to fame was his work on mind control and MK_ULTRA.

    All very exciting stuff from a behaviorist perspective.

     

    Epigenetics generates grant money, because is politically popular. If you read past the abstracts. the evidence for it is far from clear. Yes environment can affect the next generation, and parents are an important part of that environment. To show that brain alterations are passed into the genome, you must show that the grandchildren are affected. AFAIK that has never been demonstrated.

    The trained worms were then ground up and fed to young worms, and the the cannibal worms were able to learn the maze just a bit faster. Your summary is a gross exaggeration.

    after writing that the worms were the offspring of the ‘trained’ worms, I remembered that they actually were fed to the trained worms, but I didn’t come back and clarify, so thank you for doing so.

    It is a gross summary, (I’m hardly a scholar, and wouldn’t pretend to be- and as I said, I read it long ago), but the point is the same, that knowledge doesn’t necessarily have to come about by ‘learning’. IOW ‘knowledge’ can be imparted in ways other than via the senses, and this is relevant to understanding behavior.

    To show that brain alterations are passed into the genome, you must show that the grandchildren are affected

    let’s say you’re a woman in Palestine, and your parents were slaughtered when you were eight. You grew up, had some kids, all subject to depravation and humiliations and various types of social, physical and emotional trauma. They have kids, and are subject to the same lifestyles. And this cycle goes on generation after generation.

    Now I don’t have any scientific methods or metrics for determining whether or how much such conditions are effecting the actual genes or gene expression, but these environmental conditions must certainly be effecting the physical health and well-being of the people in such circumstances, no?

    And as such, would be having a definite and verifiable effect on their myriad behavioral patterns, it would seem to me. Which, would potentially have an effect on their reproductive health.

    Just consider, in the West today, there is a phenomena that is effecting the sperm counts of Western men. Science doesn’t know exactly what is causing it, but the effects are measurable.

    Now, just for fun, lets hypothesize that this phenomena is not random, but is rather a causality of some new change in the environment. And that this change is having the effect of reducing the percentage of sperm cells that contain more proclivities to this behavior or that.

    Now- if so, isn’t it possible that such environmental changes might potentially have a direct effect on the behavior of the later generations of offspring that were effected by the deleterious sperm?

    And if so, then isn’t’ it perfectly possible for the environment to directly effect the DNA of a genome? Either selecting for one behavior or another, including potentially intelligence, for instance?

    If I were a mad scientist (or a power-crazed billionaire or government), and wanted to experiment with the offspring of a certain person so as to be different than what his parents were, isn’t it possible for me to tweak that DNA, let’s say in a futuristic lab, and select for the traits I would consider preferable?

    Obviously this is possible in a theory, (if not being practiced today in thousands of black-site labs all over the planet)

    And if so, then what’s to stop genes from being altered by forces in nature, that are ultimately inherited, if not intentionally altered by a ‘mad scientist’, but simply by environmental circumstances like culture or diet or habit? Just as Western men’s sperm counts are being altered by something, which presumably will have long term genome consequences, and therefor necessarily behavioral consequences.

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    let’s say you’re a woman in Palestine, and your parents were slaughtered when you were eight. You grew up, had some kids, all subject to depravation and humiliations and various types of social, physical and emotional trauma. They have kids, and are subject to the same lifestyles. And this cycle goes on generation after generation.
     
    That is quite a jump from cannibal flatworms to human descendants over many generations. There are examples of such cycles that have been broken: poor civilizations that pull themselves out of this cycle. Examples: China, post-war Germany. Modern Mexico is getting there.

    Now- if so, isn’t it possible that such environmental changes might potentially have a direct effect on the behavior of the later generations of offspring that were effected by the deleterious sperm?

    And if so, then isn’t’ it perfectly possible for the environment to directly effect the DNA of a genome? Either selecting for one behavior or another, including potentially intelligence, for instance?

     

    What has been demonstrated is that environment can switch on or off certain genes in the next generation (epigenetics). What has not been demonstrated is the alteration of the genome itself. We need to see a plausible mechanism, and animal experiments that demonstrate it. I personally doubt that this exists.

    If I were a mad scientist (or a power-crazed billionaire or government), and wanted to experiment with the offspring of a certain person so as to be different than what his parents were, isn’t it possible for me to tweak that DNA, let’s say in a futuristic lab, and select for the traits I would consider preferable?

     

    That is called gene splicing, and it does go on. The ethical considerations are difficult. It happens naturally too, but it is rare. This is how you get mutations that form the genetic variation required for evolution. For example something in the environment caused two ape chromosomes to merge around six million years ago to form human chromosome 2.

    Epigenetics is often misconstrued to mean the passing on of inherited characteristics: the discredited genetics of Larmarck and Lysenko. That is what I am defending against in this post.
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  178. Incitatus says:
    @Wally
    Incitatus, in a desperate state of panic, you said:
    "Spending too much time with Wally and the peacock S2C?"

    Then of course, I guess the USSR 'exterminated' us since Kruschev said:
    "We will bury you".

    Here's my challenge to you and all irrational, anti science Zionists:

    Give us your physical proof of the alleged '6M Jews, 5M others & gas chambers'.

    Remember, we're talking about an alleged 11,000,000.
    There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

    BTW, here's just a few of the countless fake 'holocaust' photos to feast over:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11427
    Only liars use fakes.
    debate us here: www.forum.codoh.com if you're not afraid.

    Wally,

    An honor! Seriously! Few, if any, have the shear – can one say – dedication for view propagation.

    “…desperate state of panic…”

    Alas, wish it were so. At my age any emotion, proof of life itself, is welcome.

    “We will bury you.”

    Remember it, and Niki’s UN fist banging as well. The good old ‘duck and cover’ days! Back again after all these years, with DJT putting nuclear-armed B-52s on 24-hour alert. Feel safer already!

    “irrational, anti science Zionists”

    Neither anti-science or Zionist. Feel free to peruse the archive. Warning: you may find indifference to broad categorization.

    “fake ‘holocaust’”

    Well, there you have me. Believe it took place. Less concerned with numbers, though mainstream historians seem to agree millions died. That said, it’s not my raison d’être. You’re fully entitled to contrary opinion. Whatever turns you on, as we used to say.

    Not adverse to debate, but try to avoid deaf pantomime in echo chambers.

    “Only liars use fakes.”

    Laudable righteous indignation. No doubt you condemn:

    • Fred Leuchtner, for falsely claiming engineering degrees and licenses;
    • Benjamin Freedman, for demonstrably false history and chronology;
    • Tyler Kent, for theft, petty collaboration, and spurious innuendo.

    “…if you’re not afraid.”

    No problem. My only fear as a senior is wearing clashing plaids, driving at night and dozing at mealtime.

    Wally, do you have any interest other than codoh and sibling sites?

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  179. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Tyrion
    Omg Jews don't care about civil society, they are so insular.

    Omg those 2 Jews give money to civil organisations! They are conspiring.

    Omg they disagree and are on opposing sides, now they really are conspiring!

    Poll: Two thirds of Americans favor keeping Iran nuke deal
    Survey reveals partisan splits over whether US should remain in nuclear pact, with 80% of Democrats in favor of staying, compared to 48% of Republicans

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-two-thirds-of-americans-favor-keeping-iran-nuke-deal/

    John Podhoretz thinks the breaking of the deal is in American interest and is supported by each and every American

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  180. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Rurik

    The trained worms were then ground up and fed to young worms, and the the cannibal worms were able to learn the maze just a bit faster. Your summary is a gross exaggeration.
     
    after writing that the worms were the offspring of the 'trained' worms, I remembered that they actually were fed to the trained worms, but I didn't come back and clarify, so thank you for doing so.

    It is a gross summary, (I'm hardly a scholar, and wouldn't pretend to be- and as I said, I read it long ago), but the point is the same, that knowledge doesn't necessarily have to come about by 'learning'. IOW 'knowledge' can be imparted in ways other than via the senses, and this is relevant to understanding behavior.

    To show that brain alterations are passed into the genome, you must show that the grandchildren are affected
     
    let's say you're a woman in Palestine, and your parents were slaughtered when you were eight. You grew up, had some kids, all subject to depravation and humiliations and various types of social, physical and emotional trauma. They have kids, and are subject to the same lifestyles. And this cycle goes on generation after generation.

    Now I don't have any scientific methods or metrics for determining whether or how much such conditions are effecting the actual genes or gene expression, but these environmental conditions must certainly be effecting the physical health and well-being of the people in such circumstances, no?

    And as such, would be having a definite and verifiable effect on their myriad behavioral patterns, it would seem to me. Which, would potentially have an effect on their reproductive health.

    Just consider, in the West today, there is a phenomena that is effecting the sperm counts of Western men. Science doesn't know exactly what is causing it, but the effects are measurable.

    Now, just for fun, lets hypothesize that this phenomena is not random, but is rather a causality of some new change in the environment. And that this change is having the effect of reducing the percentage of sperm cells that contain more proclivities to this behavior or that.

    Now- if so, isn't it possible that such environmental changes might potentially have a direct effect on the behavior of the later generations of offspring that were effected by the deleterious sperm?

    And if so, then isn't' it perfectly possible for the environment to directly effect the DNA of a genome? Either selecting for one behavior or another, including potentially intelligence, for instance?

    If I were a mad scientist (or a power-crazed billionaire or government), and wanted to experiment with the offspring of a certain person so as to be different than what his parents were, isn't it possible for me to tweak that DNA, let's say in a futuristic lab, and select for the traits I would consider preferable?

    Obviously this is possible in a theory, (if not being practiced today in thousands of black-site labs all over the planet)

    And if so, then what's to stop genes from being altered by forces in nature, that are ultimately inherited, if not intentionally altered by a 'mad scientist', but simply by environmental circumstances like culture or diet or habit? Just as Western men's sperm counts are being altered by something, which presumably will have long term genome consequences, and therefor necessarily behavioral consequences.

    let’s say you’re a woman in Palestine, and your parents were slaughtered when you were eight. You grew up, had some kids, all subject to depravation and humiliations and various types of social, physical and emotional trauma. They have kids, and are subject to the same lifestyles. And this cycle goes on generation after generation.

    That is quite a jump from cannibal flatworms to human descendants over many generations. There are examples of such cycles that have been broken: poor civilizations that pull themselves out of this cycle. Examples: China, post-war Germany. Modern Mexico is getting there.

    Now- if so, isn’t it possible that such environmental changes might potentially have a direct effect on the behavior of the later generations of offspring that were effected by the deleterious sperm?

    And if so, then isn’t’ it perfectly possible for the environment to directly effect the DNA of a genome? Either selecting for one behavior or another, including potentially intelligence, for instance?

    What has been demonstrated is that environment can switch on or off certain genes in the next generation (epigenetics). What has not been demonstrated is the alteration of the genome itself. We need to see a plausible mechanism, and animal experiments that demonstrate it. I personally doubt that this exists.

    If I were a mad scientist (or a power-crazed billionaire or government), and wanted to experiment with the offspring of a certain person so as to be different than what his parents were, isn’t it possible for me to tweak that DNA, let’s say in a futuristic lab, and select for the traits I would consider preferable?

    That is called gene splicing, and it does go on. The ethical considerations are difficult. It happens naturally too, but it is rare. This is how you get mutations that form the genetic variation required for evolution. For example something in the environment caused two ape chromosomes to merge around six million years ago to form human chromosome 2.

    Epigenetics is often misconstrued to mean the passing on of inherited characteristics: the discredited genetics of Larmarck and Lysenko. That is what I am defending against in this post.

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    '' That is quite a jump from cannibal flatworms to human descendants over many generations. There are examples of such cycles that have been broken: poor civilizations that pull themselves out of this cycle. Examples: China, post-war Germany. Modern Mexico is getting there.'>>>>

    That is not pertinent to the subject.

    '' What has been demonstrated is that environment can switch on or off certain genes in the next generation (epigenetics). What has not been demonstrated is the alteration of the genome itself. We need to see a plausible mechanism, and animal experiments that demonstrate it>>>>

    I believe you are somewhat behind the latest research on the subject.
    Genes are not 'switched off" by the environment ----if you switch off a gene, you lose something. If you could switch off a gene that would be great news for people carrying the breast cancer gene or the Ta Sachs gene ......so far that hasn't happened.

    People with mental disorders , even simple disorders like phobias and who have a history of the disorder in their families (ancestors ) show brain scans with a different structure than those without the disorder. And since the genetic brain glitch they inherited cant be 'switched off'....'Retraining the altered brain is what researchers are now trying.

    Even before these experiments began the study of animals 'instincts' was know to be 'inherited memory'....bred into the animal thru the passage of 'genes' from parent to pup and that has passed down for centuries and centuries...so no one should be surprised that the same thing can occur in humans.
    , @Hu Mi Yu

    Epigenetics is often misconstrued to mean the passing on of inherited characteristics
     
    I meant to write acquired characteristics.
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  181. @anonymous
    "Remember the Palestinian woman who did “My Body Is A TV Massacre”?
    She developed those skills in piss poor conditions thru hard work & practice practice practice. So can you."

    you mean this --

    Rafeef Ziadeh - We Teach Life, Sir!
    composed as Israel was bombing the crap out of Gaza

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wad5h5K38ms

    Can someone tell me where this style of poetry was first read? I can’t quite describe it, but hope many out there have noticed it as I have. I’m not completely against it, I think whoever first read this way was probably simply overcome with emotion. But for everyone (it seems) to read that way for, say, twenty-five years?

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  182. renfro says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    let’s say you’re a woman in Palestine, and your parents were slaughtered when you were eight. You grew up, had some kids, all subject to depravation and humiliations and various types of social, physical and emotional trauma. They have kids, and are subject to the same lifestyles. And this cycle goes on generation after generation.
     
    That is quite a jump from cannibal flatworms to human descendants over many generations. There are examples of such cycles that have been broken: poor civilizations that pull themselves out of this cycle. Examples: China, post-war Germany. Modern Mexico is getting there.

    Now- if so, isn’t it possible that such environmental changes might potentially have a direct effect on the behavior of the later generations of offspring that were effected by the deleterious sperm?

    And if so, then isn’t’ it perfectly possible for the environment to directly effect the DNA of a genome? Either selecting for one behavior or another, including potentially intelligence, for instance?

     

    What has been demonstrated is that environment can switch on or off certain genes in the next generation (epigenetics). What has not been demonstrated is the alteration of the genome itself. We need to see a plausible mechanism, and animal experiments that demonstrate it. I personally doubt that this exists.

    If I were a mad scientist (or a power-crazed billionaire or government), and wanted to experiment with the offspring of a certain person so as to be different than what his parents were, isn’t it possible for me to tweak that DNA, let’s say in a futuristic lab, and select for the traits I would consider preferable?

     

    That is called gene splicing, and it does go on. The ethical considerations are difficult. It happens naturally too, but it is rare. This is how you get mutations that form the genetic variation required for evolution. For example something in the environment caused two ape chromosomes to merge around six million years ago to form human chromosome 2.

    Epigenetics is often misconstrued to mean the passing on of inherited characteristics: the discredited genetics of Larmarck and Lysenko. That is what I am defending against in this post.

    ” That is quite a jump from cannibal flatworms to human descendants over many generations. There are examples of such cycles that have been broken: poor civilizations that pull themselves out of this cycle. Examples: China, post-war Germany. Modern Mexico is getting there.’>>>>

    That is not pertinent to the subject.

    ” What has been demonstrated is that environment can switch on or off certain genes in the next generation (epigenetics). What has not been demonstrated is the alteration of the genome itself. We need to see a plausible mechanism, and animal experiments that demonstrate it>>>>

    I believe you are somewhat behind the latest research on the subject.
    Genes are not ‘switched off” by the environment —-if you switch off a gene, you lose something. If you could switch off a gene that would be great news for people carrying the breast cancer gene or the Ta Sachs gene ……so far that hasn’t happened.

    People with mental disorders , even simple disorders like phobias and who have a history of the disorder in their families (ancestors ) show brain scans with a different structure than those without the disorder. And since the genetic brain glitch they inherited cant be ‘switched off’….’Retraining the altered brain is what researchers are now trying.

    Even before these experiments began the study of animals ‘instincts’ was know to be ‘inherited memory’….bred into the animal thru the passage of ‘genes’ from parent to pup and that has passed down for centuries and centuries…so no one should be surprised that the same thing can occur in humans.

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    I believe you are somewhat behind the latest research on the subject.
    Genes are not ‘switched off” by the environment —-if you switch off a gene, you lose something. If you could switch off a gene that would be great news for people carrying the breast cancer gene or the Ta Sachs gene ……so far that hasn’t happened.

     

    Actually DNA sequences can be methylated so as to prevent transcription into RNA: switching off a gene.

    Wikipedia (epigenetics): "DNA methylation patterns are known to be established and modified in response to environmental factors by a complex interplay of at least three independent DNA methyltransferases, DNMT1, DNMT3A, and DNMT3B, the loss of any of which is lethal in mice."

    All they have established so far is that this happens. Someday it may indeed bring good news for people with breast cancer or te sachs genes.

    People with mental disorders , even simple disorders like phobias and who have a history of the disorder in their families (ancestors ) show brain scans with a different structure than those without the disorder. And since the genetic brain glitch they inherited cant be ‘switched off’….’Retraining the altered brain is what researchers are now trying.
     
    People without mental disorders show brains with different structures from each other. When we learn, we alter the structure of our brains by branching new connections in our dendrites. Any two people with different experiences or different genetics will have different brain structures. And how do you know "inherited genetics" can't be switched off? Repeating this assertion does not make it so.
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  183. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    let’s say you’re a woman in Palestine, and your parents were slaughtered when you were eight. You grew up, had some kids, all subject to depravation and humiliations and various types of social, physical and emotional trauma. They have kids, and are subject to the same lifestyles. And this cycle goes on generation after generation.
     
    That is quite a jump from cannibal flatworms to human descendants over many generations. There are examples of such cycles that have been broken: poor civilizations that pull themselves out of this cycle. Examples: China, post-war Germany. Modern Mexico is getting there.

    Now- if so, isn’t it possible that such environmental changes might potentially have a direct effect on the behavior of the later generations of offspring that were effected by the deleterious sperm?

    And if so, then isn’t’ it perfectly possible for the environment to directly effect the DNA of a genome? Either selecting for one behavior or another, including potentially intelligence, for instance?

     

    What has been demonstrated is that environment can switch on or off certain genes in the next generation (epigenetics). What has not been demonstrated is the alteration of the genome itself. We need to see a plausible mechanism, and animal experiments that demonstrate it. I personally doubt that this exists.

    If I were a mad scientist (or a power-crazed billionaire or government), and wanted to experiment with the offspring of a certain person so as to be different than what his parents were, isn’t it possible for me to tweak that DNA, let’s say in a futuristic lab, and select for the traits I would consider preferable?

     

    That is called gene splicing, and it does go on. The ethical considerations are difficult. It happens naturally too, but it is rare. This is how you get mutations that form the genetic variation required for evolution. For example something in the environment caused two ape chromosomes to merge around six million years ago to form human chromosome 2.

    Epigenetics is often misconstrued to mean the passing on of inherited characteristics: the discredited genetics of Larmarck and Lysenko. That is what I am defending against in this post.

    Epigenetics is often misconstrued to mean the passing on of inherited characteristics

    I meant to write acquired characteristics.

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  184. anarchyst says:

    For an interesting take on genes and mankind’s development, please obtain “Slave Species of God” by Michael Tellinger.
    His premise is that genes were purposely “switched off” by unknown beings to make us compliant. These “switched off” genes are slowly reactivating; hence, the increase in mankind’s advancement.
    Tellinger’s theories may be quite unconventional, but do give “food for thought”…

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  185. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @renfro
    '' That is quite a jump from cannibal flatworms to human descendants over many generations. There are examples of such cycles that have been broken: poor civilizations that pull themselves out of this cycle. Examples: China, post-war Germany. Modern Mexico is getting there.'>>>>

    That is not pertinent to the subject.

    '' What has been demonstrated is that environment can switch on or off certain genes in the next generation (epigenetics). What has not been demonstrated is the alteration of the genome itself. We need to see a plausible mechanism, and animal experiments that demonstrate it>>>>

    I believe you are somewhat behind the latest research on the subject.
    Genes are not 'switched off" by the environment ----if you switch off a gene, you lose something. If you could switch off a gene that would be great news for people carrying the breast cancer gene or the Ta Sachs gene ......so far that hasn't happened.

    People with mental disorders , even simple disorders like phobias and who have a history of the disorder in their families (ancestors ) show brain scans with a different structure than those without the disorder. And since the genetic brain glitch they inherited cant be 'switched off'....'Retraining the altered brain is what researchers are now trying.

    Even before these experiments began the study of animals 'instincts' was know to be 'inherited memory'....bred into the animal thru the passage of 'genes' from parent to pup and that has passed down for centuries and centuries...so no one should be surprised that the same thing can occur in humans.

    I believe you are somewhat behind the latest research on the subject.
    Genes are not ‘switched off” by the environment —-if you switch off a gene, you lose something. If you could switch off a gene that would be great news for people carrying the breast cancer gene or the Ta Sachs gene ……so far that hasn’t happened.

    Actually DNA sequences can be methylated so as to prevent transcription into RNA: switching off a gene.

    Wikipedia (epigenetics): “DNA methylation patterns are known to be established and modified in response to environmental factors by a complex interplay of at least three independent DNA methyltransferases, DNMT1, DNMT3A, and DNMT3B, the loss of any of which is lethal in mice.”

    All they have established so far is that this happens. Someday it may indeed bring good news for people with breast cancer or te sachs genes.

    People with mental disorders , even simple disorders like phobias and who have a history of the disorder in their families (ancestors ) show brain scans with a different structure than those without the disorder. And since the genetic brain glitch they inherited cant be ‘switched off’….’Retraining the altered brain is what researchers are now trying.

    People without mental disorders show brains with different structures from each other. When we learn, we alter the structure of our brains by branching new connections in our dendrites. Any two people with different experiences or different genetics will have different brain structures. And how do you know “inherited genetics” can’t be switched off? Repeating this assertion does not make it so.

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