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Let us look into the abyss. It will do no good.

First, another page in the sordid comic book of American race relations. In Beijing, three black basketball players from UCLA were arrested for shoplifting. They faced jail time. Ten years, actually.

The theft was so stupid that it demands explanation. It was too stupid for stupidity to be responsible They did not need to steal. They were pampered babies of semi-pro basketball, infinitely privileged. They are not expected to meet academic standards, to study, or be able to read. Something other than conventional stupidity must be involved. Is it that blacks, as various psychologists have said, lack impulse control, cannot readily envision the future? I don’t know. It fits, though.

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There is a curious pattern here. Scoreboard Baby is a book tracking the careers of black football players at the University of Washington. UW is a big-time football school and these players were on track to be millionaires in the NFL. Yet their record in the university is one of rape, armed robbery, assault, wife-beating, endlessly repeated drunk driving, drug use, and parole violation. Criminality is understandable: You want those tennis shoes, or your life is so screwed up that you just don’t give a damn. These guys, with everything going for them, apparently could not control themselves even in their own interest.

But, back to the basketball players: As they awaited a decade in a Chinese slam, Donald Trump–drum roll, trumpets—drops from the sky like a thunderbolt, weaning a red, white, and blue cape. He intervenes to save three two-bit semi-literate boosters. The President of the United States acting like a starveling PD, public defender, the bottom-rung lawyers who hang around court houses in cheap suits to keep bottom-feeding crooks on the street.

Possibly I was wrong about the manner of Mr. Trump’s arrival. Anyway, I am thinking that when he leaves office, he could start a firm, Shoplifters Redemption International and get federal outreach money.

OK, next. Baltimore has passed three hundred murders for the year. The figure is so astonishing that one almost begins to see it as like a batting average: Can they make it to four hundred? Are we doing better than last year?

You will probably have assumed hat the killers were Chinese math majors from Johns Hopkins. Right? You racist dog.

In response to its Bizarro world chaos, the black government of Ballmer tears down Confederate statues. Yes. These cause crime. The correlation is undeniable: Japan has no Confederate statues, and no crime. See?

These offensive sculptures commemorate a war that Baltimore’s cadavers, strewn about like flower petals in autumn, couldn’t spell. Do you doubt this? Go into the schools of Baltimore and see how many can spell “Confederate.” Which brings us to:

Next: Another Baltimorean triumph:. Fox News:“Project Baltimore analyzed 2017 state testing data and found one-third of High Schools in Baltimore, last year, had zero students proficient in math.” In six other high schools, only 1 percent tested proficient in math. Only 15 percent of Baltimore students passed the state’s English test..

Bear in mind that the schools, and their policies, are entirely under control of a black government.

It is hard to decide whether these revelations are astonishing or boring. Accustomed to such numbers by long exposure, we forget that scholastic catastrophe of this magnitude would be unthinkable in any other civilized society. Can you imagine a Baltimore in Japan? Finland? South Korea? Germany before African immigration? Ah, but Baltimore is getting rid of those oppressive statues. That will fix things.

Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

Next: More advances in the homicide competition: Chicago, the City that Works, has hit six hundred dead! Zingo! Those pikers in Ballmer don’t have a chance. There is good news, of a sort. There have been 2045 shootings in Chicago to the end of October. This comes 3.41 attempts per murder. Oh blessed inaccuracy. In poor marksmanship lies our hope.

Chicago’s educational statistics do not differ markedly from those of Baltimore, Detroit, Newark, or New Orleans. All of these cities turn out young blacks who will have no chance at all in a techno-industrial society. Reckon this happens in Beijing?

Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

And hopeless. Even if we believed that better schools would help, a proposition for which there is no evidence, or earlier intervention, perhaps in the womb, or special tutoring, or tweaks to self-esteem, even free Air Jordans, it would take twelve years to have effect—the length of a high-school education. Politicians do not look beyond the next election.

Anyway, there is no point in talking about education. Blacks lack interest. Have you ever heard of a black school telling mothers—there apparently are no fathers in what seems to have become a sprawling parthenogenetic ecosystem—to help their kids with their homework? Of black Boards of Education asking for thicker textbooks with bigger words and smaller pictures? It is semi-illiteracy by choice. We are doomed.

Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

Next. The war goes on. We have black football players refusing to stand for the national anthem. They think that young black males are being hunted down by cops. Actually of course black males are hunting each other down in droves but black football players apparently have no objection to this. They do not themselves convincingly suffer discrimination. Where else can you get paid six million green ones a year for grabbing something and running? Maybe in a district of jewelers.

The non-standing is racial hostility to whites. The large drop in attendance of games, of television viewership, is racial blowback by whites. Millions of whites are thinking, that, if America doesn’t suit them, football players can afford a ticket to Kenya. While this line of reasoning is tempting, it doesn’t really address the problem and so would be a waste of time.

But what, really, is the problem?

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It is one that dare not raise its head: that blacks cannot compete with whites, Asians, or Latin-Americans. Is there counter-evidence? This leaves them in an incurable state of resentment and thus hostility. I think we all know this: Blacks know it, whites know it, liberals know it, and conservatives know it. If any doubt this, the truth would be easy enough to determine with carefully done tests. The furious resistance to the very idea of measuring intelligence suggests awareness of the likely outcome. You don’t avoid a test if you expect good results.

So we do nothing while things worsen and the world looks on astounded. We have mob attacks by Black Lives Matter, the never-ending Knockout Game, flash mobs looting stores and subway trains, occasional burning cities, and we do nothing. Which makes sense, because there is nothing to be done short of restructuring the country.

Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

Regarding which: Do we really want, any of us, what we are doing? In particular, has anyone asked ordinary blacks, not black pols and race hustlers. “Do you really want to live among whites, or would you prefer a safe middle-class black neighborhood? Do your kids want to go to school with whites? If so, why? Do you want them to? Why? Would you prefer black schools to decide what and how to teach your children? Keeping whites out of it? Would you prefer having only black police in your neighborhood?”

And the big one: “Do you, and the people you actually know in your neighborhood, really want integration? Or is it something imposed on you by oreo pols and white ideologues?”

But these are things we must never think, never ask.

It isn’t working. Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

(Republished from Fred on Everything by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus ‘big happy family’–no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this ‘ideal’ (i.e. black man + white woman).
    But to more immediate matters at hand, a rational and just society (the diametrical opposite to ours, it goes without saying) would lock up these animals. Those who show they can be civilized–till they no longer can, that is (OJ, so many others)–can continue to reap what used to be the endless benefits of such a wealthy society.
    Never mind. The simple reality (again, shown by so much horrific life experience) is that they will always hate whitey, and in the most violent, aggressive manner. And thoughtful, honest whites will remember their own heritage, not fall for Jew propaganda of multicultural utopia, and realize in great numbers, again–not long ago, most did–that they don’t want to be around these fuckers anyway, no matter what. We have every right (if only we didn’t behave like pussies) to live in European societies, sans darkie hordes, especially of the Afro American variety.

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    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @nuyorwegian
    Fred Reed, daniel le mouche; where do you live? Reading your words is like reading Alice in Wonderland. I feel like you are certifiably insane. I am a white person who has lived in Harlem all of my adult life (40 years). You want to "ship out" my life long friends and neighbors?!? Are you out of your mind? You couldn't possibly have cultivated such absurd racist notions if you actually had regular contact, lasting friendships and family ties with real life "black" people. Ron Unz has done a great service by providing us this forum of alternative views. But many of the articles and comments exude the putrid stench of racism, white supremacy to be precise; a disease of the mind and heart. I pity you sitting behind your computer screen spouting such vile criminal absurdities as shipping black americans to Africa. Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?
    , @Realist
    "They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus ‘big happy family’–no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this ‘ideal’ (i.e. black man + white woman)."

    Yes, the miscegenation promoted by the media and big corporations is amazing. The good point is that only stupid whites would be persuades by these ads. Do Israeli ads show Jewish women with blacks....I think not.
    , @Liberty Mike
    nuyorwegian -

    Why are black men about 12 times more likely to perpetrate inter-racial acts of violence than white men?

    Why do so many millions of Negroes fail to pass basic English proficiency exams?

    Why are cities, counties, and countries governed by black majorities almost always a disaster?

    Why are black people far more likely than any other racial group to engage in anti-social behavior?

    Why are blacks far more likely to be born out-of-wedlock than any other racial group?

    Why?

    Instead of addressing these facts, you, like too many, lash out with puerile canards and empty asseverations of "racism" and "white supremacy".

    That dog won't hunt.
    , @MBlanc46
    Shipping them out isn’t going to happen. It didn’t happen in the 19th century, it won’t happen in the 21st. As Mr Reed appears to suggest, significant segregation is possible. Most blacks don’t like white people and don’t want to live among us. Black nationalism has had strong support among blacks since the 19th century. Race realists who want to ameliorate racial conflict should support black nationalism.
    , @Corvinus
    "And thoughtful, honest whites will remember their own heritage..."

    White people do remember their own heritage, as well as the heritages of their non-white neighbors. Just because they engage in this conduct does not mean they are thoughtless and dishonest.

    "not fall for Jew propaganda of multicultural utopia..."

    It's not Jew propaganda. Rather, it is people who prefer to live and interact among different groups.

    "and realize in great numbers, again–not long ago, most did–that they don’t want to be around these fuckers anyway, no matter what"

    SOME white people, like yourself, feel that way. But white normies will make their own racial decisions.
    , @Okechukwu

    They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said.
     
    It's going to be very difficult for your keyboard to ship out anyone.

    It would be much easier to ship you and your ilk back to Europe than it would be to ship black Americans to Africa. At some point, you people may have to be shipped somewhere. If not to Europe or Siberia, then to an island somewhere. Otherwise you will have to be quarantined one way or the other.

    At some point society will say Enough!

    , @Curmudgeon
    Shipping them out is not an option. They are citizens. The solution IMO is not just a border wall with Mexico, but a medieval type city wall with a minimum number of gates controlling, from the OUTSIDE, who enters or exits.
    , @SMK
    I wish the greedy white males who brought Negro slaves to the "new world" could be brought back to life as 20-year-olds and sentenced to spend the rest of their lives in Detroit or Haiti.
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  2. It’s the “stupid culture” more than the ethnicity. A culture with strong positive values can boost the success of individuals, while a dysfunctional one will hobble them. Teaching that negatives are positive, and to be emulated by children, is the unmitigated disaster. If it’s propagated into the wider society, it takes its toll on lives there too. From all that I read, there’s a critical mass of deconstructionists trying to wreak that havoc on all our descendants.

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    Black culture only reflects the fact that American blacks are one standard deviation less intelligent than whites and asians, and have the poor impulse control that comes along with that fact. Admittedly, the culture was somewhat better when blacks grew up mostly in two parent families, before the Democrats invented ADC and other ways of banishing black fathers from the family.
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  3. joef says:

    So we do nothing while things worsen and the world looks on astounded. We have mob attacks by Black Lives Matter, the never-ending Knockout Game, flash mobs looting stores and subway trains, occasional burning cities, and we do nothing. Which makes sense, because there is nothing to be done short of restructuring the country.

    Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

    That is an accurate summation of the afro american problem. And there is no reversal pending for this disastrous formula of racial balkanization plus economic decline. As more & more States and municipalities go bust, our economic situation will continue to disintegrate. Afros will not reform themselves (there is no incentive for them to do so because we always give in to their demands), leftist enable their antisocial dysfunctions, and libs fearfully ignore the obvious. Confirmation bias did not keep the Titanic afloat, nor will liberal confirmation bias keep this unsustainable afro burden afloat.

    The situation has not improved for the last half century, and in fact has gotten much much worse. If you logically project this forward in time, you must honestly conclude that the future of this nation will entail a great deal of scarcity, strife, and struggle. When the economy unravels, afros will not peacefully wait on line for food, fuel, and banks. When afros don’t get easy entitlements they will attack, and at that point you will be forced to either fight or die. If libs choose to die in self deception, so be it, that’s their problem, don’t make it ours.

    While we truly wish this was different, afros aggressively push for more!

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    This appears to me to be a pretty accurate prediction of the future of the US.
    , @Anonymous
    "So we do nothing while things worsen and the world looks on astounded. "

    It does? Not that I know of. Okay, maybe in China. Europe thinks an American Black has to be twice as good as a White to get a job, for instance. How do I know? I saw it on TV in Germany. A US Black said so himself. Everybody knows that. Americans are so mean and unfair to blacks.
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  4. Gene Su says:

    I’m going to split my response into several posts:

    Fred, you didn’t once talk about Dylann Roof and the Charleston Church shooting. You had a golden opportunity to repeat a theme that you had in your earlier essays: that the mainstream media aggressively plays up race when dealing with white on black crime and downplays black on white crime. You could have talked about how the Charleston Church shooting got a cover page on Time magazine but the Tennessee Church shooting, done by an African immigrant, hardly made a ripple.

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    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
    Reminds me of a call in to NPR by a recent Arab immigrant who said that he had studied black on non-black crime n that it was much larger than most think n that it was not being reported by the media. The NPR host cut him off immediately with the comment "Statistics can be used to prove anything."

    Apparently facts are facts until they go against the officially approved narrative. Then they are not facts. Not even the Census Bureau.
    , @Grandpa Charlie

    "You could have talked about how the Charleston Church shooting got a cover page on Time magazine but the Tennessee Church shooting, done by an African immigrant, hardly made a ripple." -- Gene Su
     
    If Fred had brought up the Tennessee Church shooting, that would have led him to the Charleston Church shooting -- which would have been an exception to his rule that blacks are all hostile toward whites:

    "blacks cannot compete with whites, Asians, or Latin-Americans. ... This leaves them in an incurable state of resentment and thus hostility." -- Fred Reed
     
    What's the problem with one minor exception? The problem is that we are here at Unz Review, and elsewhere in this country, in a 'culture-war' situation where we take our rules of engagement from the military: "Kill them all and let God sort them out."

    It's to be expected in a culture as militaristic as ours has become. As is common in the typical made-for-TV film or Netflix series, only a fool would give the other guy a chance or wait for him to draw .... and that leads to another one of our rules of engagement that are taught via the ultimate instructional tool of the screen: "Shoot first, by instinct, without hesitation." Or, in the cop movies, when a rookie kills a suspect who actually was unarmed and harmless, the senior guys tell him, "It's okay, you did what your training told you to do."

    So that's how we conduct dialog these days. We don't worry about niceties like "except for the Christian folk in the black church in Charleston." Those folks were just collateral damage as were the other Christian folk in Tennessee. So, Fred is just following the postmodern rules of discourse -- like everybody else. And those rules follow the postmodern rules of engagement of real-life terrorism and firefights.

    Many have been noting that it may even be a racial characteristic to react instinctively, without reflection. Maybe so ... and so what? And wasn't that what the BLMers were demanding when they shouted down all the Democratic candidates, including Bernie Sanders, when those candidates attempted to make the point that "All lives matter." Were not the BLMers saying that the Christian lives in the Tennessee church did not matter, and the Christian lives in the Charleston church, they did not matter as individual human beings taking a stand for peace but only as a few black people and only because they were black.

    That's where culture war and identity politics. carried to their logical extremes, would take us: "Kill rhem all and let God sort them out."

    There seems to be another possible direction, a kind of 'third way', for those brave enough to follow the martyrs, if need be: that is carrying religious faith to its logical extremes.

    As indicated at #67 by gustafus and as preached by Dr. James David Manning --

    https://www.facebook.com/drjamesdavidmanning/
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  5. Gene Su says:

    I’m going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of “race realists” think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing “critical race theory” (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the “icing on the cake”. I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America’s social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America’s public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I’m going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I’m also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a “wigger”) who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don’t have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it’s not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

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    • Replies: @silviosilver
    I too have wondered whether accounts of racial problems provided by the Jared Taylors of the world are trustworthy. I think there is a definite tendency among pro-whites to exaggerate the extent of racial problems. All the same, the broad outlines of racial differences in violence and criminality are unmistakable.

    As for your experiences, no one seriously doubts that whites are capable of being violent and racially spiteful. The difference between whites and blacks in this regard is that whites are vastly more likely to condemn such behavior than to excuse it, and to take concrete steps to clamp down on it. When was the last time you heard black leaders talking about measures that could be taken to reduce the unacceptably high degree of black-on-white violence? Hahaha. Such an idea is too laughable for words, isn't it.
    , @Meretricious
    "I’m going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem."--dude, it also includes all the black middle classes: these affirmative action parasites (see Obama family) stir up the underclass with all their invidious racial grievances.
    , @Anonymous
    I agree with this.

    Black people have always had high crime rates, high teenage pregnancy, and low academic success rates. What white HBD types never acknowledge is whites backsliding and copying ghetto black culture and being guilty of the very things that blacks do in ever increasing numbers.

    Whites are devolving into a small higher caste group of whites with high iq and a much larger lower caste group of whites with low iq that has the same issues blacks deal with.

    Also, as much as violent crime is a problem the main issue with America is not black violence. It is white collar crime that is almost exclusively the domain of white people.

    Add up all of the crimes of blacks, and it does not come close to the cost of white collar crime from white people.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    Lowe class whites in the UK and Russia are every bit as dysfunctional as American blacks, which suggests that socialist economic policies and welfare certainly don't help.
    , @Scotty
    Gene Su, you either are joking or are naive. If you have EVER lived in any major metro area in the United States you will ALWAYS have interactions with the so-called, as you describe it, "black underclass". Try any subway line in the United States. Both blacks and whites live in fear of black teens and blacks in general that roam, often with mental disorders, throughout large swaths of urban areas, looking for easy targets. Normies of EVERY RACE, but particular Whites and Asians, are VERY aware of how frequent they are or will have to interact with blacks, when considering job opportunities and/or living accommodations. And I will go you one further, this isn't reserved to whatever "underclass" you speak of. Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those "visiting cousins" in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home.
    , @Anonymouse
    Recently visited NYC staying in Riverside accessible by pricey Metroliner from midtown and also accessible by subway. So I took the subway. I also took the A train subway to JFK airport and to check out Broad Channel housing. Yes, the subway is where one can check out the deportment of groups of black kids and likewise groups of white underclass kids. Loud, yes, but IMHO sufficiently domesticated by NYC schools to maintain acceptable behavior standards when on the subway and posing no threat to others. Of course this is merely anecdotal but suggestive. I suggest that the takeaway from this "evidence" is that it is easy to exaggerate and stereotype black behavior. I have a public library recall for Scoreboard, Baby and look forward to the vicarious pleasure of reading about bad behavior of black university athletes.. Public behavior in America historically has been raucous and riotous. As the majority white Americans grew more civilized, American negroes enfranchised post the Civil Rights '60s are keeping up the old American wildness. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Germany came to Kentucky when 14 years old. He told me he was quite taken aback by the rough behavior of American kids compared to behavior of German kids. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Greece reported how impressed he was by the way American kids could self-organize, playing sports where the individual team members could seamless change teams and automatically correlate with their new teammates. In Greece, he said, team play would immediately collapse in unresolvable argument about the outcome of each play. When it comes to politico-ideological viewpoints, it is easy to succumb to exaggeration.
    , @Wally
    "When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself."

    Why should we believe you, your agenda is obvious?

    However, there are violent whites, but the numbers are minute when compared to blacks & browns.
    I suggest you read:
    Color of Crime.
    https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

    Come back when you're ready to back up your assertions.

    , @Hare Krishna
    Of course they hide how dysfunctional American whites are becoming, because if you haven't figured it out already HBD and "race realism" are just about building whites up and denigrating every other group. It's the white nerd's equivalent of "we were kings and queens in Africa" The prohlem does lie essentially in the schools. More discipline in the schools - something the Obama admijnistration virtually eliminated - would solve a lot of problems.
    , @MBlanc46
    No one is forcing you to stay here, pal. If you don’t like it here, leave.
    , @joef
    Yes you are correct there are thugs in every racial category, but that is pointing out the obvious. However, the real point is not that thugs exist among Non Blacks groups (of course they do), but it is the disproportionate amount of afro american thugs that commit the overwhelming amount of violence in this nation (as reported over the decades by newspapers accounts, and FBI crime reporting data). As compared to Non Blacks, the afros level of homicides committed is truly staggering.

    It is true that cities like New York, and Philly (and others in the BosWash megapolis), there are those who never routinely encountered afro thuggery. But there are also many of us who encountered afros on a semi routine basis, and dealt with their antisocial destructive acts. And actually the ones who have had zero contact are the ones who actually are the problem. Because they are pathologically naive when it comes to racial realism about afros, falsely believing in afros victimhood. Limo Libs rather ignore the afro problem instead of confronting it, and dislike anyone who brings it up.

    They show no empathy for Non Black crime victims, and in the most extreme cases, they actually deny their existence. They rather pander to afro fake victimhood to maintain their stylish Limo Liberal vogue (while the real victims suffer in unacknowledged silence). That it why many of us have learned not to show Limo Libs any sympathy when they finally suffer from the afro Frankenstein monster that they helped to create. Let them receive some of the pain that other Non Blacks had to endure, while the Limo Libs pontificated from afar.

    Being raised in a urban working class 'Catholic ghetto' white neighborhood (which included some Puerto Ricans), I knew many bottom feeders within my community that it would be prudent to avoid. Some reformed themselves, some died young, some killed, some alcoholics, some homeless, some in prison, but we were allowed to readily identify them as problem people...

    ...only with the afros we are not allowed to honestly identify their criminal actions, and forced to pretend that it is not their fault. This Limo Lib social strategy has lasted because this nation has been in relative prosperity, but as we continue this prolonged recession (or worse devolve in failed state like conditions, and default), the luxury of ignoring this overwhelming afro deviance will be a luxury we can no longer afford.

    , @Anon
    You can live in NYC and not come into contact with the underclass, I'll give you that. But Newark? Newark?? Are you out of your mind?

    I'm a very obviously half-South-Asian kid who was never bothered on account of race. Except very occasionally, and then by blacks.
    , @Anonymous
    "Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them."

    It's true that many whites, especially among the ranks of the liberal spoiled elite types get to keep their romantic fantasies of the magic negro, wise latinas, Urkel black engineers, etc from minimal contact with blacks, but we're talking Vermont and Massachusetts whites, not Newark, NYC or Philly whites.

    , @Sin City Milla
    I hardly know where to begin to correct such naivete. My race realism is precisely that--from real daily experience, not armchair theorizing. Multiple unprovoked attacks, knifings, threats, holdups at gunpoint on most of my family n relatives, my elderly mother dragged down the street by a black thief in a truck after he had just robbed her, another relative run over, neighbor's 17 year old son at his first job executed by a black on parole while robbing him. It just goes on n on. And this is in Houston, a city that is virtually at peace in its race relations, without a race riot since 1917. How much worse must it be with violent black males in Baltimore, Chicago, Newark, Detroit, etc? Houston is 35% hispanic, 30% black, 30% white, 5% Asian. But the vast majority of violent crime is done by black males. Everyone knows this but the media, which is half black, never ever mentions it.
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  6. Fred’s schtick is obvious. It’s to get people ginned up about the black menace so they’re compliant about accepting 30 million Jose Zarates into the country.

    Can Unz fire Reed and hire Allan Wall instead? He’s much better.

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    Bragadocious, I think your schtick is obvious: Ignore realities you are too afraid to acknowledge, and blame them there foreigners! After all, them there black folks is Americans like us, Cletis!
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    AGREED

    Fred's schtick is also to throw this kind of truth out there at least 4 or 5 times a year in order to keep most of his readers, who are otherwise sick of his continual promotion of his new-found Mexicanity. What I don't like is that, anytime other writers, VDare people for example, or the few decent politicians, come up with ideas for solutions to America's manifold racial problems, Mr. Reed makes a point to criticize them. Fred Reed loves to complain, but will not offer any solutions and hates those who do.

    Mr. Allan Wall would indeed be a great substitute, Mr. Bragadocious. He writes without any animosity toward anyone, has his experience of living in Mexico with his family with more of an open mind than Fred, and not as just an ex-patriate whiner. His column on VDare, which was "Memo from Mexico", and is now "Memo from Middle America", is always an interesting read with both the Mexican and American perspective.

    How bout it, Ron Unz? It sure beats hell out of the Commie losers that have been featured all around your site lately?
    , @Jake
    If you think Mexicans are even a third as bad as blacks, then either you are ignorant of a least one of them or else you are multiple times more anti-Mexican than Reed is pro-Mexican.
    , @gustafus
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Ts4oLSKoQ

    Great Sermon by a Black Preacher -- BLACKS HAVE A PROBLEM - and it ain't White.

    That said - Fred talks about blacks unable to suppress harmful urges or understand even horizons.

    In plain English -

    Those with an IQ below 90 cannot participate in self governing Democracy. Deficiencies include, but are not confined to -

    ------Inability to stifle harmful urges [ theft, crime, self destructive behavior]

    ------Cannot defer gratification [ entitled Black Athlete steals on impulse]

    ------Cannot resolve conflict without violence [ crime stats in every black city]

    ------Don't comprehend the concept of "event horizons" or "intermediate vs final ends, goals"

    So Far - Fred is on the money because the mean IQ of blacks is 80 - 85.

    What he fails to address is his BELOVED MEXICO and parts south - are inhabited by 600 million peasants with a mean IQ of 85.

    Mexico is corrupt to it's core - racist to its core - and the stratification between dark, Indian low IQ Mexicans and the more educated but equally debased ruling white class... is, well, IQ.

    The Mexico of Fred's affection is the elitist enclave where he lives among the lighter, brighter, who we see on LATIN TV, the weather channel, and in beauty contests.

    Latin America has all the same problems as we do with race - and does NOTHING to advance the interests of those on the bottom rung -- they ship em HERE.

    It's hard to respect Fred's insight when the log in his eye came out of his bedroom.

    , @Grandpa Charlie

    "Fred’s schtick is obvious. It’s to get people ginned up about the black menace so they’re compliant about accepting 30 million Jose Zarates into the country.

    "Can Unz fire Reed and hire Allan Wall instead? He’s much better." -- Bragadcious
     
    I had to google Allan Wall, and looks worth another look sometime -- so thanks for that.

    BTW: I don't think that you have Fred's 'schtick' exactly right. As I recall he has suggested that there are already 30 million illegal or undocumented Mexicans here, and he asks of us, or of anyone, what can seriously be done about it? Fred has doubted that the policies that brought the 30 million were sound, but still here we are today, and who has any good proposals for what is to be done?

    Thank you, Ronnie.
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  7. @Bragadocious
    Fred's schtick is obvious. It's to get people ginned up about the black menace so they're compliant about accepting 30 million Jose Zarates into the country.

    Can Unz fire Reed and hire Allan Wall instead? He's much better.

    Bragadocious, I think your schtick is obvious: Ignore realities you are too afraid to acknowledge, and blame them there foreigners! After all, them there black folks is Americans like us, Cletis!

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  8. Which makes sense, because there is nothing to be done short of restructuring the country.

    So why not restructure the country then?

    Why not allow the existence of various racially exclusive jurisdictions? This in itself would solve over 90% of the problem.

    If given jurisdictions were permitted to vote to become monoracial then only members of that race would be able to move in to that jurisdiction, while members of other races would only be able move out of it. As imperfect and problematic as this process is bound to be – we’d learn a lot on the way, don’t worry – it would quite quickly set in motion the “restructuring” of the country that Fred, for now, considers unthinkable.

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    Restructuring is all very well until you have to divvy up the nukes.
    , @Covfefe Anan
    Why not? Because deep down everyone knows that they depend on white society to maintain the lifestyle they are accustomed to. Without that, they would quickly regress to their mean, Africa.

    True, they resent this dependency, but they grudgingly prefer it over the alternative. As Mohammad Ali said, they’re all glad their ancestors got on those boats.
    , @The Plutonium Kid
    Absolutely not. The state should not have the power to mandate either integration or segregation.
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  9. @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    I too have wondered whether accounts of racial problems provided by the Jared Taylors of the world are trustworthy. I think there is a definite tendency among pro-whites to exaggerate the extent of racial problems. All the same, the broad outlines of racial differences in violence and criminality are unmistakable.

    As for your experiences, no one seriously doubts that whites are capable of being violent and racially spiteful. The difference between whites and blacks in this regard is that whites are vastly more likely to condemn such behavior than to excuse it, and to take concrete steps to clamp down on it. When was the last time you heard black leaders talking about measures that could be taken to reduce the unacceptably high degree of black-on-white violence? Hahaha. Such an idea is too laughable for words, isn’t it.

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    I too have wondered whether accounts of racial problems provided by the Jared Taylors of the world are trustworthy. I think there is a definite tendency among pro-whites to exaggerate the extent of racial problems. All the same, the broad outlines of racial differences in violence and criminality are unmistakable.
     
    As someone who lived with it for a very long time (as well as others I know with similar backgrounds to myself), I can assure you of that the misfortune of dealing with afros is very very real, which has resulted in many many severe outcomes. Do not underestimate it. It is the liberal MSM who are doing the exaggerating by ignoring the great number of victims from afro initiated violence. This can be readily confirmed by prolonged living in close proximity to afro ghettos. However, I would not recommend you becoming a victim to afro violent crime; or if you prevail against afro aggression, convicted by an overzealous prosecutor for committing a hate crime, with the MSM labeling you as a vigilante (how dare we defend ourselves; we all should be willing victims to afro atrocities; after all this is just payback for the misbegotten gains of white privilege, even if you'r Hispanic/Asian).
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  10. good article, Fred

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  11. The flash point is likely to come as we run out of whites who tolerate black dysfunction. Mexicans bring their own problems (sorry, Fred, they do) but they have much less tolerance for black dysfunction. Someday, blacks are going to commit some atrocity in a Mexican community and the Mexicans are going to react as whites did in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1921.

    The ultimate solution is (at least) two societies, but it will probably take a civil war to impose it.

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    The ultimate solution is (at least) two societies, but it will probably take a civil war to impose it.
     
    We actually had one of those... and it imposed the integrated society we have today.
    , @Biff
    The only thing that Mexicans hate worse than blacks is other Mexicans. They’ve been on the run for years. The Eskimos will be complaining soon enough.
    , @MBlanc46
    Disaggregation is the only way forward with a reasonably positive outcome. Conflict will almost certainly be involved. Let’s hope that it stops short of full-scale civil war.
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  12. @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    “I’m going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem.”–dude, it also includes all the black middle classes: these affirmative action parasites (see Obama family) stir up the underclass with all their invidious racial grievances.

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    "dude, it also includes all the black middle classes"

    I think that without government jobs, there would be no black middle class to speak of. Among the middle class black people that I know personally, most are either retired from a government job or currently employed by government of some level. The remaining few that I know are affirmative action hires and I don't know any middle class black business owners.
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  13. Okechukwu says:

    But, back to the basketball players: As they awaited a decade in a Chinese slam, Donald Trump–drum roll, trumpets—drops from the sky like a thunderbolt, weaning a red, white, and blue cape. He intervenes to save three two-bit semi-literate boosters.

    What does any of this have to do with anything? How does it constitute a “racial snapshot.” There are white men boinking little boys tonight. Is that a snapshot too?

    Baltimore has passed three hundred murders for the year.

    Gee, a couple of white men wracked up nearly 1/3 of this body count in a few hours.

    It is one that dare not raise its head: that blacks cannot compete with whites, Asians, or Latin-Americans.

    This is patently false. I know from personal experience having been in classes with whites, Asians and Latin Americans. And I’m not alone.

    The furious resistance to the very idea of measuring intelligence suggests awareness of the likely outcome. You don’t avoid a test if you expect good results.

    The people in love with the idea of measuring intelligence tend not to be very bright themselves. That’s the great irony and the dilemma you face in moving that needle in the direction you want.

    We have mob attacks by Black Lives Matter, the never-ending Knockout Game, flash mobs looting stores and subway trains, occasional burning cities, and we do nothing. Which makes sense, because there is nothing to be done short of restructuring the country.

    On what planet is all of this happening? This planet? Okay, cite with credible evidence any of these events taking place today or this week or this month or this year.

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    The people in love with the idea of measuring intelligence tend not to be very bright themselves. That’s the great irony and the dilemma you face in moving that needle in the direction you want.
     
    I'm not at all sure that they "tend" not to be very bright, but assuming it's true, it is perhaps ironic, but how is it a "dilemma"?
    , @MBlanc46
    Sounds as if you’d be quite happy in a black polity. Let’s work on that together.
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  14. Truth says:

    Hey, Good one, Federico. I estimate this will by you 3-4 “I Luv Mess-kins” articles with you fans.

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  15. According to Howard Zinn, what the USA ruling elite fears most is that poor USA citizens unite, regardless of colour

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    "According to Howard Zinn, what the USA ruling elite fears most is that poor USA citizens unite, regardless of colour"

    Like virtually all Jews, Zinn is motivated by hatred of Whites and America so you should take what he has to say with a grain of salt.
    , @MBlanc46
    Yes, that’s the old Leftist bromide: class differences are real, other differences are invented by the ruling class to divide the workers. I’m not surprised that Howard Zinn believes it. I am surprised that annyone else does.
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    @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    I agree with this.

    Black people have always had high crime rates, high teenage pregnancy, and low academic success rates. What white HBD types never acknowledge is whites backsliding and copying ghetto black culture and being guilty of the very things that blacks do in ever increasing numbers.

    Whites are devolving into a small higher caste group of whites with high iq and a much larger lower caste group of whites with low iq that has the same issues blacks deal with.

    Also, as much as violent crime is a problem the main issue with America is not black violence. It is white collar crime that is almost exclusively the domain of white people.

    Add up all of the crimes of blacks, and it does not come close to the cost of white collar crime from white people.

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    Got proof?

    Nope, you're just making it up.
    , @Technite78
    HBD types have acknowledged, and have even proposed a mechanism that explains the "white backsliding"...

    It's called assortative mating. See: "Coming Apart" by Charles Murray
    , @Negrolphin Pool

    Add up all of the crimes of blacks, and it does not come close to the cost of white collar crime from white people.
     
    I would like to see even the laziest effort to quantitatively back this up. Let me break out pen and napkin to get some inkling of how off the mark it is. Take, for example, the real estate losses in Detroit, as just one isolated example. In 1950, the population of the city was 1.8 million. At an average person per household of 3 (anyone know if is this close?), adjusted upwards a little from today's number of 2.58, that would be about 600,000 homes. At that time, Detroit was considered one of the most important and sought-after cities in the United States. So I could probably reasonably go on the very high end when estimating what those houses might be worth today if the racial order had been maintained. But I'll be conservative, since it will just lead to an endless counterfactual debate about the auto industry etc.

    Today, at a rate of 2.58 people per household, it means that there are approximately 260,773 residential units in the city. That means 339,000 homes simply disappeared. Between Devil's Night and slum clearance, it's no mystery where they all went, especially to anyone who's ever toured the rubble.

    I'll avoid factoring in distracting yet substantive things like the widespread partitioning of the remaining homes into rental properties, which may mean the 260,773 number above is massively overstated, nor will I attempt to address commercial real estate, which, at least at first glance, is probably in considerably worse condition than its residential counterpart across most of the city. Let's just bear in mind that this is likely to be an absolute lower-bound estimate.

    The median home price in Detroit, according to Zillow is $45,000.

    The median home price in mostly white Traverse City, Michigan, a city with similar housing stock from a similar period in a similar location, is $224,000. If we assume the difference between the two prices is equal to the single-home "black dysfunction premium", then the total black dysfunction premium incurred by Detroit residential real estate owners since 1950 $46,678,367,000. On top of that, there has been an outright 339,000*$224,000 = $75,936,000,000 loss on the housing units that have simply disappeared. The total residential real estate loss in Detroit, due almost entirely to the unoppressed unconstrained presence of blacks, is about $123 billion dollars.


    This number is likely to be a severe underestimate, as evidenced by the fact that, at the point of its peak population in 1950, Detroit was considered one of the three top cities in America. A more appropriate baseline non-Africanized housing price for comparative purposes might be San Francisco or New York. Instead, Traverse City, a nice but not overly industrious Midwestern town, was used. Nor have we even attempted to look at the probably much worse asset history of commercial real estate in the city.

    This is but one tiny stroke in the Jackson Pollack portrait of American racial strife, all attributable to black crime. And the described losses affected real people and families deeply. It wasn't a gentlemanly game of multi-billionaire Jew rips off just-billionaire Jew, as played out in so many white collar crimes.

    , @Carroll Price

    It is white collar crime that is almost exclusively the domain of white people.
     
    I totally disagree. Considering the low number of blacks in white collar jobs, a very large percentage of that number are eventually caught with their hands in the cookie jar. In fact, it occurs on such a regular basis until it's practically expected.
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  17. JessicaR says:

    I have read both the article and the responses with mixed reactions. The racial snapshot focuses on the negative. My mother, my grandfather, my great aunt and I have all been mugged and all the assailants were black. While an open discussion of this reality is very important, there are other realities as well: the high percentage of African-Americans in the health care fields who have given me competent and compassionate care, the African-American churches who are doing yeoman’s work in trying to improve conditions within the community, and the number of African-Americans serving in America’s (stupid and criminal!) wars and coming home to be treated as potential thugs and criminals. When I first moved to Mississippi, I talked with a black veteran of the Afghanistan war who objected to the term “African-American” because he felt that after serving his country, he deserved to just be an American and not a separate kind of American.

    I also find that when I am out in public and need some kind of help–lifting something heavy, needing a break in traffic–very often the person helping me is black (or African-American–take your pick.) I have African-American neighbors I much prefer to some of the drug-addicted whites I have lived next to in my life.

    Whenever I hear discussions of racial or ethnic politics, I am reminded of the courtroom oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Fred Reed has told the truth but has not told the whole truth.

    Gene Su, you make an excellent point about not judging an entire people by its worst elements.

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    When I first moved to Mississippi, I talked with a black veteran of the Afghanistan war who objected to the term “African-American” because he felt that after serving his country, he deserved to just be an American and not a separate kind of American.
     
    Quite right too, and probably better than the average Congressman - Pick one at random.
    , @MarkinLA
    I talked with a black veteran of the Afghanistan war who objected to the term “African-American” because he felt that after serving his country, he deserved to just be an American and not a separate kind of American.

    I am not the one demanding that blacks be called African-American, they are the ones demanding it.
    , @gp
    "the African-American churches who are doing yeoman’s work in trying to improve conditions within the community" Yes, there are many of those churches. So why don't they _ever_ succeed? Where is there a "community" where "conditions improved" as a result of black effort? "Communities" seem to improve most by white gentrification, but few blacks would agree.
    , @Jim
    A wide variety of people can be found in any racial/ethnic group. But that fact does not mean that there are not often large differences in average behavior between different races. There is no reason why there should be some universal constant that is say the average cognitive level of every human population or say the average level of violent behavior in every human population. All these averages differ considerably among different races just as say average stature varies between races.

    Different human populations are the result of different evolutionary histories involving biological-cultural coevolution which produced substantial difference in average behavioral dispositions of these groups. As a result people from different racial groups are often poorly adapted to living with each other and violent racial conflict is likely . These problems are often serious even in, for example, Jewish-Gentile relations where the genetic differences are far smaller than the genetic differences between whites and blacks.

    Liberal compassion does not change the biological reality of human beings. Human beings are not fallen angels who are progressing to some fancied utopian society. They are the products of a totally amoral evolutionary process completely indifferent to all human hope or aspiration.
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  18. @daniel le mouche
    They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus 'big happy family'--no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this 'ideal' (i.e. black man + white woman).
    But to more immediate matters at hand, a rational and just society (the diametrical opposite to ours, it goes without saying) would lock up these animals. Those who show they can be civilized--till they no longer can, that is (OJ, so many others)--can continue to reap what used to be the endless benefits of such a wealthy society.
    Never mind. The simple reality (again, shown by so much horrific life experience) is that they will always hate whitey, and in the most violent, aggressive manner. And thoughtful, honest whites will remember their own heritage, not fall for Jew propaganda of multicultural utopia, and realize in great numbers, again--not long ago, most did--that they don't want to be around these fuckers anyway, no matter what. We have every right (if only we didn't behave like pussies) to live in European societies, sans darkie hordes, especially of the Afro American variety.

    Fred Reed, daniel le mouche; where do you live? Reading your words is like reading Alice in Wonderland. I feel like you are certifiably insane. I am a white person who has lived in Harlem all of my adult life (40 years). You want to “ship out” my life long friends and neighbors?!? Are you out of your mind? You couldn’t possibly have cultivated such absurd racist notions if you actually had regular contact, lasting friendships and family ties with real life “black” people. Ron Unz has done a great service by providing us this forum of alternative views. But many of the articles and comments exude the putrid stench of racism, white supremacy to be precise; a disease of the mind and heart. I pity you sitting behind your computer screen spouting such vile criminal absurdities as shipping black americans to Africa. Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

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    YOURE A LIAR
    I have lived in NYC for 60 years I grew up in the lower east side now called east village and have lived the last ten in crown heights I have lived in harlem and all over brooklyn. I too have many black and hispanic friends I also work in a majority minority ( by Court order) industry. Being a city kid I speak spanglish blacklish and all the rest, in short I pass i can use the word nigger in front of niggers and not an eye brow is raised thats how well i pass. Im also an NYU educated upper middle class white with 130 IQ whos insane parents decided to live in a slum when they could have afforded fifth avenue.
    The point is you are a fucking liar if you think the people you have selected as friends and acquaintances are a representative sample, its no different than the elite scum who pretend the nigger from grad school or the one who made it to the cubicle next to them is representative,The statistics are what is representative * times the murder rate of whites and hispanics combined, fathers unheard of, two siblings of the same father unheard of.an 85 average IQ for the half of the blacks with 25% white blood closer to 65 IQ for the the other half of recent immigrant blacks.I play a game can i walk down to the block to te store and back home without seeing or hearing a black do or say something so heinous i would hear or see a white do the same thing in 20 years I never lose this game, of course it helps that I understand what they are saying where as 99% of whites have no idea what 60% of what blacks say means.
    The sad reality is we should have shipped them back after the civil war, we dont owe them shit. slavery was an elite british thing its not on the heads of any american even by 1176 we were trying to undo it and 85 years later fought a war to undo it its not on us its really on no one. every single race has had slavery only whites eradicated it. we owe blacks nothing but a ticket home
    , @Anonymous
    You posted some of your thoughts and feelings and that's what counts. Did it ever occur to you what the purpose of social media might be? You may have visited the doctor, and he did something that hurt, "Any pain?"

    Unz's honeypot works similarly. When we visit with Reed we're supposed to pile on accordingly, think of the data as necessary to sustain the real unstoppable recidivists.

    Unz (if it's of any help) essentially stole his wealth but there's no case of a crime that needs to be solved.
    , @Dave
    I've lived in NYC for my entire adult life, since 1988, and I find it hard to believe you've lived in Harlem for 40 years and seen no violence or dysfunction. To be honest, I think your full of it.
    I've lived on the Lower East Side, Brooklyn and now the UES. I vividly remember NY under the Koch and Dinkins administrations. I remember NYC had the highest per capita murder rate in the country until Giuliani was elected, averaging well over 2000 murders a year until 1993 or so. That's not taking into account attempted murder, aggravated assault, armed robbery and just the general level of mayhem and intimidation that existed in wide swathes of NYC.
    Everyone I know who lived here in the 70's and 80's has experienced some form of violence at the hands of a black man or men. I myself was once randomly attacked by a homeless black man. He started a fight with me, and when I squared off with him, preparing to fight, he realized I wasn't an easy mark and pulled out a box cutter and tried to slash me with it. The late 60's through the early 90's was one long explosion of criminality at the hands of a subset of the black population. Hispanics were certainly involved, as were some white ethnics, but the overwhelming majority of it was committed by young black males. And then Giuliani demanded the police focus on the neighborhoods and demographic responsible for the worst crime, and lo and behold, the murder rates started to plummet.
    Liberals never forgave him for this, by the way.
    Are all black people to blame for this ?
    Absolutely not.
    I have worked with and socialized with many warm, wonderful black people. People I came to love and trust. But even they, and many other black people of I've worked with , once they felt they could trust me, would reveal their true feelings about the black community and it's problems.
    Black people know that the black underclass, as it's called, is badly broken, probably beyond repair.
    Many black people will also begrudgingly admit that white people, Asians as well, are generally smarter and more competent when it comes to running things and making sure civilization functions properly.
    The statistical, and anecdotal, evidence of black criminality and dysfunction is overwhelming and irrefutable.
    You appear to be in deep denial about all of this, which is surprising, seeing as how you claim to have lived in the black community for 40 years.
    Do you ever leave the apartment ?
    , @eah
    Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    Do you have any clear notion of what life will be like for Whites in a majority non-white America?
    , @MBlanc46
    Living in close proximity to blacks is the principal route to race realism.
    , @gustafus
    I have a clear notion.... I sift my darkies on a need to basis. I am a native of the Rocky Mountain West... Denver has it's NIGGERS - but they are confined to their ghettos

    The rest of the region has a dusting of this plague... s0 the effects are minimal. That's how it works best. My UPS driver is black .. and harmless. I wouldn't trust his kids... but who knows, it might be a success story.

    I have ZERO interest in lasting ties with Blacks or Latinos, Muslims or Eskimos. I've had a taste of all of em... and I don't like it.

    Hamilton's Rule.... we care for and protect those who look and act like we do. When the aforementioned begin to comport themselves like me and mine... I will carefully allow them to get closer to that which I love.

    , @daniel le mouche
    Manhattan, which is all Harlem is, is not reality. I've lived there. I've also been way out in Brooklyn and Queens around 3pm when school lets out, on the subway--god help anyone in that situation. But much worse than much of New York--Disneyland--are places like Philly, the whole south and west side of Chicago, DC, Baltimore, New Orleans, Cleveland and many more. I've spent years living around, working with, being somewhat friends with, and trying to help blacks. Many of them were warm people. This does not negate my point, that people prefer their own ethnic groups. The greatest problem as to blacks is anyone from the age of about 5 to 35--a rather large problem! This includes extremely agressive and violent females. And their whole culture is sickening to me: the shit music especially (no, not Marvin Gaye, not Louis Armstrong, but the likes of Rhianna, and the hordes of shitstick rappers).
    But to repeat: NYC is not reality, except to New Yorkers, who can't imagine life anywhere else.
    , @Gene Su
    To nuyorwegian:

    I am going to give you a fair warning: You might be deceived by your personal experiences. Black Americans are far more segregated along class lines than their white counterparts. In particular, black parents of the middle class do NOT allow their children to mix with the children of the underclass. This goes double in a place like New York. You can live a lifetime in New York and not have any contact with the black thug element. Pick the right neighborhood and you'll only be dealing with well-groomed, soft spoken, intelligent blacks.
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    Go Fred! The last voice of common sense.

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  21. Realist says:
    @daniel le mouche
    They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus 'big happy family'--no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this 'ideal' (i.e. black man + white woman).
    But to more immediate matters at hand, a rational and just society (the diametrical opposite to ours, it goes without saying) would lock up these animals. Those who show they can be civilized--till they no longer can, that is (OJ, so many others)--can continue to reap what used to be the endless benefits of such a wealthy society.
    Never mind. The simple reality (again, shown by so much horrific life experience) is that they will always hate whitey, and in the most violent, aggressive manner. And thoughtful, honest whites will remember their own heritage, not fall for Jew propaganda of multicultural utopia, and realize in great numbers, again--not long ago, most did--that they don't want to be around these fuckers anyway, no matter what. We have every right (if only we didn't behave like pussies) to live in European societies, sans darkie hordes, especially of the Afro American variety.

    “They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus ‘big happy family’–no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this ‘ideal’ (i.e. black man + white woman).”

    Yes, the miscegenation promoted by the media and big corporations is amazing. The good point is that only stupid whites would be persuades by these ads. Do Israeli ads show Jewish women with blacks….I think not.

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    "Yes, the miscegenation promoted by the media and big corporations is amazing."

    So what? Feel free to not mix with other races. But realize that there is nothing inherently immoral with the mixing of the races.

    "The good point is that only stupid whites would be persuades by these ads."

    Right, tens of millions of white people who have high IQ are somehow "stupid" because they believe in treating people with dignity and respect, and also believe that freedom of association means that white people may interact, date, and mate with non-white people.
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  22. @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    Lowe class whites in the UK and Russia are every bit as dysfunctional as American blacks, which suggests that socialist economic policies and welfare certainly don’t help.

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    'Lowe class whites in the UK and Russia are every bit as dysfunctional as American blacks, which suggests that socialist economic policies and welfare certainly don’t help.'

    Don't know about Russia, but do the UK. I agree the white trash here of all classes, but especially the lowest classes, is abominable. (Don't think I simply despise lower class people. I do not. But in America, where the majority don't even know there IS a class system, poorer people are much more open to, well, everything--ideas, hope of a better world, you name it. In England people all seem to be in a rut, in good part no doubt because of the welfare state, but this same welfare system takes very much of the edge off that you see in America: people may still be fairly miserable and hopeless, but they're nowhere near so violent.) But please stop comparing blacks and whites. The thugs who populate American cities are very often aggressive and violent, especially towards whites. As an earlier commenter from New York noted, you can't walk down the street in many areas of big American cities without being accosted, or at least witnessing unbelievable behavior from one or more of these goons. And still there's that big question: why the giant phoney populist movements (eg BLM), why the complete lack of media coverage of B on W crime? (Most at Unz know the answer, so the question is rhetorical.)
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  23. Scotty says:
    @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    Gene Su, you either are joking or are naive. If you have EVER lived in any major metro area in the United States you will ALWAYS have interactions with the so-called, as you describe it, “black underclass”. Try any subway line in the United States. Both blacks and whites live in fear of black teens and blacks in general that roam, often with mental disorders, throughout large swaths of urban areas, looking for easy targets. Normies of EVERY RACE, but particular Whites and Asians, are VERY aware of how frequent they are or will have to interact with blacks, when considering job opportunities and/or living accommodations. And I will go you one further, this isn’t reserved to whatever “underclass” you speak of. Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those “visiting cousins” in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home.

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    Scotty, you took the words right out of my mouth. Where are these magical cities where one can take the train, take the bus, walk to lunch or dinner, go shopping, etc., without encountering hostile and rude and often menacing Africans?

    I lived in Philly, and it is utterly absurd to say that you can avoid Africans in daily life if you work downtown, or on Drexel campus, or on Penn campus, etc. Same with Washington DC, Cleveland and Cincinnati OH, Newark or Trenton NJ, Detroit, Denver, Saint Louis, and sure as Hell here in Los Angeles.

    No matter where one lives, as soon as you go to the downtown, there they are, ready and eager to glare, to block your way on the sidewalk, intimidate, insult, sometimes assault, and generally enjoy making your life fearful and miserable.
    , @MBlanc46
    Absolutely. It’s proximity to blacks that causes race realism.
    , @Corvinus
    "Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those “visiting cousins” in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home."

    I'm sure you have statistics at the ready demonstrating clearly how these middle class blacks are very dangerous, right?
    , @Gene Su
    I don't think I'm naïve. If you work in a white collar profession such as a lawyer, musician, doctor, or stockbroker, you might never come in contact with the black thug class. If you go to only the correct train station or parking lot, you won't see the homeless derelicts. If you avoid the slums (which might only be a few miles from your workplace), you won't see what the cops see. As long as you go home before, say, 9PM at night, you won't deal with the crazies who come out during the middle of the night.

    Your experiences will be even more restrictive if you are a kid. Would you allow your kid to come home at midnight? From a romp in the inner city? Of course not. Most American children don't deal with "black teens." This is why they are so easily taken in by the lies spread by Black Lives Matter.
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  24. Dr. X says:

    Accustomed to such numbers by long exposure, we forget that scholastic catastrophe of this magnitude would be unthinkable in any other civilized society.

    “Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.

    So we do nothing while things worsen and the world looks on astounded.

    To the contrary, the world is copying our problem by importing Negroes and Muslims. Italy, Germany, Sweden, France, and the UK are willingly creating racial nightmares of their own.

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    And the Germans with whom I speak every week (our kids are in German classes) -- mostly born and raised in Germany -- get nervous, then indignant, then insulting, when I urge them to be realistic and stop importing into Germany the Hell that we already have here.

    They have a ready excuse or evasion for every rape, every grope, every assault, every theft, every crime wave, every belligerent demand by Africans and Muslims in their country.

    They are much angrier at me for pointing out the facts than they are at the people physically hurting and threatening their own people every hour in Germany now.

    , @Corvinus
    "Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks."

    So what definition are you employing here? In other words, is it YOUR definition or one that is from a source? Please specify.
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  25. Dr. X says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    The flash point is likely to come as we run out of whites who tolerate black dysfunction. Mexicans bring their own problems (sorry, Fred, they do) but they have much less tolerance for black dysfunction. Someday, blacks are going to commit some atrocity in a Mexican community and the Mexicans are going to react as whites did in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1921.

    The ultimate solution is (at least) two societies, but it will probably take a civil war to impose it.

    The ultimate solution is (at least) two societies, but it will probably take a civil war to impose it.

    We actually had one of those… and it imposed the integrated society we have today.

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    No, Dr. X, there has never been a civil war here. There was a war to prevent the secession of some states, but never a civil war, which is a war to take control of an existing government. The Confederate States just seceded, leaving the US government in place.
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  26. @Bragadocious
    Fred's schtick is obvious. It's to get people ginned up about the black menace so they're compliant about accepting 30 million Jose Zarates into the country.

    Can Unz fire Reed and hire Allan Wall instead? He's much better.

    AGREED

    Fred’s schtick is also to throw this kind of truth out there at least 4 or 5 times a year in order to keep most of his readers, who are otherwise sick of his continual promotion of his new-found Mexicanity. What I don’t like is that, anytime other writers, VDare people for example, or the few decent politicians, come up with ideas for solutions to America’s manifold racial problems, Mr. Reed makes a point to criticize them. Fred Reed loves to complain, but will not offer any solutions and hates those who do.

    Mr. Allan Wall would indeed be a great substitute, Mr. Bragadocious. He writes without any animosity toward anyone, has his experience of living in Mexico with his family with more of an open mind than Fred, and not as just an ex-patriate whiner. His column on VDare, which was “Memo from Mexico”, and is now “Memo from Middle America”, is always an interesting read with both the Mexican and American perspective.

    How bout it, Ron Unz? It sure beats hell out of the Commie losers that have been featured all around your site lately?

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    The bottom line is, Reed doesn't like the United States very much and I think actively wishes harm upon it. While oddly hanging out with Americans in Ajijic.

    Wall likes this country. And his name has the word "wall" in it. Bonus!
    , @Carroll Price

    Mr. Reed makes a point to criticize them. Fred Reed loves to complain, but will not offer any solutions and hates those who do.
     
    Wrong. If you re-read Fred's article, toward the end you will find that he hints at returning to the only solution that has ever worked, which is segregation of blacks from non-blacks.
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  27. fnn says:

    What looks to be a mainstream investment newsletter dares to state the obvious:

    https://gefira.org/en/2017/12/05/in-300-years-there-are-only-300-japanese-left/

    Japan’s plight is shared by all developed countries in Asia and Europe. The world likes to portrait Japan as a case on its own, and economists and politicians prefer to ignore demographic reality. Europe is trying to solve the problem by importing Third World people. It is a weird reversed colonization experiment. What an irony! The French elites were not able to rule over the Algerians in Algiers, now they are trying to manage the Algerian population in Paris. There is no reason to believe the outcome will be much different.

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    I remember hearing 20 years ago about how Germany would NEED to bring in more immigrants to support the aging German population. Setting aside that dubious motivation, what normal white person in "THE CURRENT YEAR", having seen all we have seen, on every continent around the globe, would ever presume for a SECOND, that non-whites:

    a) are capable, even as simply large minority populations within white nations, of running anything proficiently enough to improve medicine, agriculture, technology, services, etc; and/or

    b) are interested in doing anything that is at any time perceived as benefiting whites, aging or not;

    c) have enough foresight to even prepare for their own futures beyond a few weeks, let alone long-term planning for a massive industrialized and populated society.

    The WW2 Vet dying alone in a hospital while black "nurses" laughed is merely symbolic, if not metaphoric for the larger truth (and event horizon) that blacks and browns lack empathy, and have such strong in-group preference, low future-orientation, and high impulsiveness that everything white people hold so dear as universal truths of altruism, love, beauty and a better future--is a fantasy that will crumble with every percentage of demographic change in any white nation.

    The idea that we are "all in this together" and "diversity is out strength" requires full doses of cognitive-dissonance in light of the reality around us that you would have to be mentally ill to not notice it's falsity.
    , @MarkinLA
    Your post is sarcasm right? You are making fun of anybody who would write such a stupid article aren't you? If the Japanese need Japanese babies, they can create policies that will produce all they need.
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  28. @nuyorwegian
    Fred Reed, daniel le mouche; where do you live? Reading your words is like reading Alice in Wonderland. I feel like you are certifiably insane. I am a white person who has lived in Harlem all of my adult life (40 years). You want to "ship out" my life long friends and neighbors?!? Are you out of your mind? You couldn't possibly have cultivated such absurd racist notions if you actually had regular contact, lasting friendships and family ties with real life "black" people. Ron Unz has done a great service by providing us this forum of alternative views. But many of the articles and comments exude the putrid stench of racism, white supremacy to be precise; a disease of the mind and heart. I pity you sitting behind your computer screen spouting such vile criminal absurdities as shipping black americans to Africa. Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    YOURE A LIAR
    I have lived in NYC for 60 years I grew up in the lower east side now called east village and have lived the last ten in crown heights I have lived in harlem and all over brooklyn. I too have many black and hispanic friends I also work in a majority minority ( by Court order) industry. Being a city kid I speak spanglish blacklish and all the rest, in short I pass i can use the word nigger in front of niggers and not an eye brow is raised thats how well i pass. Im also an NYU educated upper middle class white with 130 IQ whos insane parents decided to live in a slum when they could have afforded fifth avenue.
    The point is you are a fucking liar if you think the people you have selected as friends and acquaintances are a representative sample, its no different than the elite scum who pretend the nigger from grad school or the one who made it to the cubicle next to them is representative,The statistics are what is representative * times the murder rate of whites and hispanics combined, fathers unheard of, two siblings of the same father unheard of.an 85 average IQ for the half of the blacks with 25% white blood closer to 65 IQ for the the other half of recent immigrant blacks.I play a game can i walk down to the block to te store and back home without seeing or hearing a black do or say something so heinous i would hear or see a white do the same thing in 20 years I never lose this game, of course it helps that I understand what they are saying where as 99% of whites have no idea what 60% of what blacks say means.
    The sad reality is we should have shipped them back after the civil war, we dont owe them shit. slavery was an elite british thing its not on the heads of any american even by 1176 we were trying to undo it and 85 years later fought a war to undo it its not on us its really on no one. every single race has had slavery only whites eradicated it. we owe blacks nothing but a ticket home

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    I have lived in NYC for 60 years I... in short I pass i can use the word nigger in front of niggers and not an eye brow is raised thats how well i pass.
     
    LMFAO!

    A 60-year old white man who can walk up to some cats he doesn't know, N-Bomb to his heart's content and nobody notices?

    Damn WhiteFolks, I heard you died!?!?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl4P4wIYvm4
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  29. Scotty says:
    @fnn
    What looks to be a mainstream investment newsletter dares to state the obvious:
    https://gefira.org/en/2017/12/05/in-300-years-there-are-only-300-japanese-left/

    Japan’s plight is shared by all developed countries in Asia and Europe. The world likes to portrait Japan as a case on its own, and economists and politicians prefer to ignore demographic reality. Europe is trying to solve the problem by importing Third World people. It is a weird reversed colonization experiment. What an irony! The French elites were not able to rule over the Algerians in Algiers, now they are trying to manage the Algerian population in Paris. There is no reason to believe the outcome will be much different.
     

    I remember hearing 20 years ago about how Germany would NEED to bring in more immigrants to support the aging German population. Setting aside that dubious motivation, what normal white person in “THE CURRENT YEAR”, having seen all we have seen, on every continent around the globe, would ever presume for a SECOND, that non-whites:

    a) are capable, even as simply large minority populations within white nations, of running anything proficiently enough to improve medicine, agriculture, technology, services, etc; and/or

    b) are interested in doing anything that is at any time perceived as benefiting whites, aging or not;

    c) have enough foresight to even prepare for their own futures beyond a few weeks, let alone long-term planning for a massive industrialized and populated society.

    The WW2 Vet dying alone in a hospital while black “nurses” laughed is merely symbolic, if not metaphoric for the larger truth (and event horizon) that blacks and browns lack empathy, and have such strong in-group preference, low future-orientation, and high impulsiveness that everything white people hold so dear as universal truths of altruism, love, beauty and a better future–is a fantasy that will crumble with every percentage of demographic change in any white nation.

    The idea that we are “all in this together” and “diversity is out strength” requires full doses of cognitive-dissonance in light of the reality around us that you would have to be mentally ill to not notice it’s falsity.

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    @nuyorwegian
    Fred Reed, daniel le mouche; where do you live? Reading your words is like reading Alice in Wonderland. I feel like you are certifiably insane. I am a white person who has lived in Harlem all of my adult life (40 years). You want to "ship out" my life long friends and neighbors?!? Are you out of your mind? You couldn't possibly have cultivated such absurd racist notions if you actually had regular contact, lasting friendships and family ties with real life "black" people. Ron Unz has done a great service by providing us this forum of alternative views. But many of the articles and comments exude the putrid stench of racism, white supremacy to be precise; a disease of the mind and heart. I pity you sitting behind your computer screen spouting such vile criminal absurdities as shipping black americans to Africa. Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    You posted some of your thoughts and feelings and that’s what counts. Did it ever occur to you what the purpose of social media might be? You may have visited the doctor, and he did something that hurt, “Any pain?”

    Unz’s honeypot works similarly. When we visit with Reed we’re supposed to pile on accordingly, think of the data as necessary to sustain the real unstoppable recidivists.

    Unz (if it’s of any help) essentially stole his wealth but there’s no case of a crime that needs to be solved.

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    "...essentially stole his wealth..." .... "honeypot"
    1. Only a scoundrel could come with such nonsense on this forum.
    2. If you mean that "honeypot" is the place for informed discussion among intelligent people -- that's true. Although judging from your derogatory tenor this forum is not for you. Would not it be too much to infer that you belong to this crowd? - https://www.adl.org/news/article/ron-unz-controversial-writer-and-funder-of-anti-israel-activists "Unz is involved in other endeavors that raise questions about his views of Jews and Israel." --Is this your soft spot, Anonymous? Seems that you prefer the manageable MSM to the PC-incorrect social media.
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  31. @jilles dykstra
    According to Howard Zinn, what the USA ruling elite fears most is that poor USA citizens unite, regardless of colour

    “According to Howard Zinn, what the USA ruling elite fears most is that poor USA citizens unite, regardless of colour”

    Like virtually all Jews, Zinn is motivated by hatred of Whites and America so you should take what he has to say with a grain of salt.

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  32. Of all the cucked things Trump has done, intervening on behalf of those basketball players to win their release was among the most egregious.

    And allowing him to do it showed that the Chinese still aren’t ready to stand up to America. A real nation would have politely told him to sod off and jailed them.

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    "Of all the cucked things Trump has done, intervening on behalf of those basketball players to win their release was among the most egregious."

    No. He played that like a true shitlord. He went above & beyond the call of duty for those morlocks, and then called them out for their ingratitude, as necessary.

    It was a thing of beauty.
    , @edNels
    I'm just gonna guess the basketball players were typical dumb kids pranking, not too smart, just not murder or anything like all the outrage here would be waranted for. Kids will be niggers! Imean... sheesh!

    Another thing though is, the black teenagers wouldn't fit in a Chinese jail. Not a good situation for anybody so if it took presidential action so be it. Thrump could have let them rot, but that would be all bad, must be he didn't mind seeming to have a heart to help out the little guy in this one. That won't be a trend though, don't count on that.
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  33. For some, maybe most,… hell, maybe all, denial of the race problem is just part of denial of the unsustainable nature of our over-”grown” civilization and denial of the Darwinian Nature that civilization struggles with.

    Perhaps they are afraid that once they have allowed the admission of this painful reality then others will, or must, follow (and behind them all lurks a nuclear holocaust).

    I myself have come to accept that we are approaching a population collapse, but I have convinced myself that it can come in the form of disease and limited war. I have wondered about my own thinking. Is this just my way of dealing with the fear of a nuclear holocaust?

    If you talk to people much you will find that most have the idea that if things are “allowed” to get out of control we are doomed, therefore they cannot admit that there are things we cannot control.

    Mencken said that for every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. He sure had that right.

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  34. @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    Recently visited NYC staying in Riverside accessible by pricey Metroliner from midtown and also accessible by subway. So I took the subway. I also took the A train subway to JFK airport and to check out Broad Channel housing. Yes, the subway is where one can check out the deportment of groups of black kids and likewise groups of white underclass kids. Loud, yes, but IMHO sufficiently domesticated by NYC schools to maintain acceptable behavior standards when on the subway and posing no threat to others. Of course this is merely anecdotal but suggestive. I suggest that the takeaway from this “evidence” is that it is easy to exaggerate and stereotype black behavior. I have a public library recall for Scoreboard, Baby and look forward to the vicarious pleasure of reading about bad behavior of black university athletes.. Public behavior in America historically has been raucous and riotous. As the majority white Americans grew more civilized, American negroes enfranchised post the Civil Rights ’60s are keeping up the old American wildness. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Germany came to Kentucky when 14 years old. He told me he was quite taken aback by the rough behavior of American kids compared to behavior of German kids. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Greece reported how impressed he was by the way American kids could self-organize, playing sports where the individual team members could seamless change teams and automatically correlate with their new teammates. In Greece, he said, team play would immediately collapse in unresolvable argument about the outcome of each play. When it comes to politico-ideological viewpoints, it is easy to succumb to exaggeration.

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    That's true. Too many people downplay white dysfunction.

    Whites only became domesticated after a ton of liberal social engineering, which blacks were not subjected to. With underclass social dysfunction spreading in the white community and underclass problems that have afflicted the black community increasingly affecting the white community (albeit with less violent crime), this social engineering is being undone.
    , @Jimmy the Fish
    Would you move to a neighborhood that was all Black? . . . I didn't think so,
    , @RadicalCenter
    My experience on trains with African youths - previously in NJ, Chicago, Ohio, Baltimore, and D.C., and now in LA - been almost uniformly unpleasant, annoying, loud, rude, vulgar, stupid, frequently glaring or mocking, and occasionally menacing.

    Numerous times I have been intentionally "shouldered" by young African men AND WOMEN who want to show their power and their disrespect for me - not just brushing past and making incidental contact as anyone often must in a crowd, but forcefully shouldered and pushed backwards, sometimes when it was not crowded.

    Same for my friend who has lived in Brooklyn for almost twenty years as an adult and in NYC much of his young life before that. As a teenager in the 80s, he was attacked, robbed, beaten, spit on, and mocked while he was lying helpless on the train car floor, by a group of African "Americans." One nearby African passenger, an adult, laughed as he was attacked and spit on.

    You are either simply lucky thus far, or shading the truth. And certainly you are making excuses for Africans that are unconvincing and terribly naive.

    The fact that many white kids are falling down to the African level of intimidation, rudeness, vulgarity, moronic behavior, is readily observable. But there is still a large systematic difference between two groups in typical average behavior, and the seemingly worsening behavior of white kids is no excuse for the already atrocious and worse behavior of the majority of African kids and teens, and adults for that matter.

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  35. Malla says:

    slavery was an elite british thing

    More like Jewish

    And it possible that labour was not the only reason to get them to the Americas. There were some long term intentions and they are playing out infront of the eyes of the world as described by Fred.

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    "More like Jewish..."

    According to Bertram W. Korn’s research (Jews and Negro Slavery in the Old South, 1789-1865), census records and slave purchasing documents show that southern Jews “who owned slaves were concentrated in cities, not in the plantation districts containing ninety percent of the enslaved population. For example, there were only four Jews – less than one-tenth of one percent – among the 11,000 Southerners who in 1830 owned fifty or more slaves.”

    According to David Brion Davis, Professor of History Emeritus at Yale University, he writes “To keep matters in perspective, we should note that in the American South, in 1830, there were only 120 Jews among the 45,000 slaveholders owning twenty or more slaves and only twenty Jews among the 12,000 slaveholders owning fifty or more slaves. Even if each member of this Jewish slaveholding elite had owned 714 slaves—a ridiculously high figure in the American South—the total number would only equal the 100,000 slaves owned by black and colored planters in St. Domingue in 1789, on the eve of the Haitian Revolution…Of course, some Jews were involved in the slave trade. Every European Western nation was. There were also some regions in which the slave trade was more accessible to Jews—Rhode Island, Newport, Holland, to name a few striking examples. The Dutch Jews weren’t persecuted, so there were quite a few who were involved.”
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  36. Biff says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    The flash point is likely to come as we run out of whites who tolerate black dysfunction. Mexicans bring their own problems (sorry, Fred, they do) but they have much less tolerance for black dysfunction. Someday, blacks are going to commit some atrocity in a Mexican community and the Mexicans are going to react as whites did in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1921.

    The ultimate solution is (at least) two societies, but it will probably take a civil war to impose it.

    The only thing that Mexicans hate worse than blacks is other Mexicans. They’ve been on the run for years. The Eskimos will be complaining soon enough.

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  37. @Achmed E. Newman
    AGREED

    Fred's schtick is also to throw this kind of truth out there at least 4 or 5 times a year in order to keep most of his readers, who are otherwise sick of his continual promotion of his new-found Mexicanity. What I don't like is that, anytime other writers, VDare people for example, or the few decent politicians, come up with ideas for solutions to America's manifold racial problems, Mr. Reed makes a point to criticize them. Fred Reed loves to complain, but will not offer any solutions and hates those who do.

    Mr. Allan Wall would indeed be a great substitute, Mr. Bragadocious. He writes without any animosity toward anyone, has his experience of living in Mexico with his family with more of an open mind than Fred, and not as just an ex-patriate whiner. His column on VDare, which was "Memo from Mexico", and is now "Memo from Middle America", is always an interesting read with both the Mexican and American perspective.

    How bout it, Ron Unz? It sure beats hell out of the Commie losers that have been featured all around your site lately?

    The bottom line is, Reed doesn’t like the United States very much and I think actively wishes harm upon it. While oddly hanging out with Americans in Ajijic.

    Wall likes this country. And his name has the word “wall” in it. Bonus!

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    Reed does not like Liberal America and what it has produced. Reed has dozens of articles that mark very clearly how deeply he knows and cherishes the America that was murdered by post World War 2 Liberals.

    And that murdering of America began with the WASP Elites adopting the Negro as their pets, which adoption the WASP allies the Jews doubled in intensity.

    The Numinous Negro, due to the WASP Elites, and later also Jews, using him - the Numinous Negro - as weapons and tools with which to batter white Christians the WASP Elites and Jews dislike, isn absolutely central to all Liberal perversions of America.
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  38. Miro23 says:
    @JessicaR
    I have read both the article and the responses with mixed reactions. The racial snapshot focuses on the negative. My mother, my grandfather, my great aunt and I have all been mugged and all the assailants were black. While an open discussion of this reality is very important, there are other realities as well: the high percentage of African-Americans in the health care fields who have given me competent and compassionate care, the African-American churches who are doing yeoman's work in trying to improve conditions within the community, and the number of African-Americans serving in America's (stupid and criminal!) wars and coming home to be treated as potential thugs and criminals. When I first moved to Mississippi, I talked with a black veteran of the Afghanistan war who objected to the term "African-American" because he felt that after serving his country, he deserved to just be an American and not a separate kind of American.

    I also find that when I am out in public and need some kind of help--lifting something heavy, needing a break in traffic--very often the person helping me is black (or African-American--take your pick.) I have African-American neighbors I much prefer to some of the drug-addicted whites I have lived next to in my life.

    Whenever I hear discussions of racial or ethnic politics, I am reminded of the courtroom oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Fred Reed has told the truth but has not told the whole truth.

    Gene Su, you make an excellent point about not judging an entire people by its worst elements.

    When I first moved to Mississippi, I talked with a black veteran of the Afghanistan war who objected to the term “African-American” because he felt that after serving his country, he deserved to just be an American and not a separate kind of American.

    Quite right too, and probably better than the average Congressman – Pick one at random.

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  39. Jake says:
    @Bragadocious
    Fred's schtick is obvious. It's to get people ginned up about the black menace so they're compliant about accepting 30 million Jose Zarates into the country.

    Can Unz fire Reed and hire Allan Wall instead? He's much better.

    If you think Mexicans are even a third as bad as blacks, then either you are ignorant of a least one of them or else you are multiple times more anti-Mexican than Reed is pro-Mexican.

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    I don't like black crime anymore than anyone else. I take precautions to not be a victim.

    On the other hand, black crime is our problem. They're our people, whether you like it or not. And that will never change.

    Here's my question. Just because we have lots of lawbreakers in this country, why do we want more from another country? And saying "they're not as bad as blacks" is not an argument.

    , @Hare Krishna
    No group that is in the US is as bad as the black underclass. Or even comes close to being as bad. I suspect how much contact many of the "race realist" posters have had with the black underclass if they think that any other group comes close.
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  40. 1legdrvn says:

    I’m always fascinated by your thought provoking articles and the erudite comments generated. This one takes the cake. That would be Marie Antoinette’s cake. I’m sure a few hundred years ago Fred your serf ancestors were as well thought of. I’m sure your revered, seemingly, kings and queens would have hired you on as their sooth sayer. You might at some point want to look at how fear that has become engaged in subcultures has led to the bitterness and dispensed arrogance of each group towards all others. BTW him many in your home of mexico have been slaughtered this year and what have you dine about it?

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  41. Fred hit a nerve. Thank you.
    I read Unz Review because it prints stuff from the left, the right, the correct and the incorrect.

    Why?

    Drum-role, please:

    Because it makes me think. There are other points of view than my own.

    I guess some people don’t get it when someone says something they don’t like or agree with. Sad — in a real democracy various opinions should be considered. THAT does not mean agreed with!

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  42. Jake says:
    @Bragadocious
    The bottom line is, Reed doesn't like the United States very much and I think actively wishes harm upon it. While oddly hanging out with Americans in Ajijic.

    Wall likes this country. And his name has the word "wall" in it. Bonus!

    Reed does not like Liberal America and what it has produced. Reed has dozens of articles that mark very clearly how deeply he knows and cherishes the America that was murdered by post World War 2 Liberals.

    And that murdering of America began with the WASP Elites adopting the Negro as their pets, which adoption the WASP allies the Jews doubled in intensity.

    The Numinous Negro, due to the WASP Elites, and later also Jews, using him – the Numinous Negro – as weapons and tools with which to batter white Christians the WASP Elites and Jews dislike, isn absolutely central to all Liberal perversions of America.

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  43. Dave says:
    @nuyorwegian
    Fred Reed, daniel le mouche; where do you live? Reading your words is like reading Alice in Wonderland. I feel like you are certifiably insane. I am a white person who has lived in Harlem all of my adult life (40 years). You want to "ship out" my life long friends and neighbors?!? Are you out of your mind? You couldn't possibly have cultivated such absurd racist notions if you actually had regular contact, lasting friendships and family ties with real life "black" people. Ron Unz has done a great service by providing us this forum of alternative views. But many of the articles and comments exude the putrid stench of racism, white supremacy to be precise; a disease of the mind and heart. I pity you sitting behind your computer screen spouting such vile criminal absurdities as shipping black americans to Africa. Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    I’ve lived in NYC for my entire adult life, since 1988, and I find it hard to believe you’ve lived in Harlem for 40 years and seen no violence or dysfunction. To be honest, I think your full of it.
    I’ve lived on the Lower East Side, Brooklyn and now the UES. I vividly remember NY under the Koch and Dinkins administrations. I remember NYC had the highest per capita murder rate in the country until Giuliani was elected, averaging well over 2000 murders a year until 1993 or so. That’s not taking into account attempted murder, aggravated assault, armed robbery and just the general level of mayhem and intimidation that existed in wide swathes of NYC.
    Everyone I know who lived here in the 70′s and 80′s has experienced some form of violence at the hands of a black man or men. I myself was once randomly attacked by a homeless black man. He started a fight with me, and when I squared off with him, preparing to fight, he realized I wasn’t an easy mark and pulled out a box cutter and tried to slash me with it. The late 60′s through the early 90′s was one long explosion of criminality at the hands of a subset of the black population. Hispanics were certainly involved, as were some white ethnics, but the overwhelming majority of it was committed by young black males. And then Giuliani demanded the police focus on the neighborhoods and demographic responsible for the worst crime, and lo and behold, the murder rates started to plummet.
    Liberals never forgave him for this, by the way.
    Are all black people to blame for this ?
    Absolutely not.
    I have worked with and socialized with many warm, wonderful black people. People I came to love and trust. But even they, and many other black people of I’ve worked with , once they felt they could trust me, would reveal their true feelings about the black community and it’s problems.
    Black people know that the black underclass, as it’s called, is badly broken, probably beyond repair.
    Many black people will also begrudgingly admit that white people, Asians as well, are generally smarter and more competent when it comes to running things and making sure civilization functions properly.
    The statistical, and anecdotal, evidence of black criminality and dysfunction is overwhelming and irrefutable.
    You appear to be in deep denial about all of this, which is surprising, seeing as how you claim to have lived in the black community for 40 years.
    Do you ever leave the apartment ?

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    I’ve lived in NYC for my entire adult life, since 1988, and I find it hard to believe you’ve lived in Harlem for 40 years and seen no violence or dysfunction. To be honest, I think your full of it.
     
    Yes, a person who advances an obvious falsehood, in an attempt to convince others with his fake propaganda, should not be trusted. I remember around 1990 when Harlem was described by a news source as the most violent square mile in America. It is amazing how libs & leftist even ignore the Black victims of afro violent crime. I bet he didn't see the ubiquitous public urination, and the one story trash piles between alleyways of buildings either, because the residents were too lazy to put it in a trash can (and then blamed the White man for it). When the rest of America stops tolerating the intolerable (which will eventually be forced by our major economic decline), it will not go well for the afros. But they have no one to blame but themselves, for they chose their course of action against us.
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  44. Currahee says:

    each one teach one:

    EVERYTHING THEY TAUGHT YOU ABOUT RACE IS A LIE!

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  45. @Jake
    If you think Mexicans are even a third as bad as blacks, then either you are ignorant of a least one of them or else you are multiple times more anti-Mexican than Reed is pro-Mexican.

    I don’t like black crime anymore than anyone else. I take precautions to not be a victim.

    On the other hand, black crime is our problem. They’re our people, whether you like it or not. And that will never change.

    Here’s my question. Just because we have lots of lawbreakers in this country, why do we want more from another country? And saying “they’re not as bad as blacks” is not an argument.

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    The black underclass doesn't regard themselves as being your people. They feel no loyalty towards you Why feel loyalty towards them?
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  46. @Scotty
    Gene Su, you either are joking or are naive. If you have EVER lived in any major metro area in the United States you will ALWAYS have interactions with the so-called, as you describe it, "black underclass". Try any subway line in the United States. Both blacks and whites live in fear of black teens and blacks in general that roam, often with mental disorders, throughout large swaths of urban areas, looking for easy targets. Normies of EVERY RACE, but particular Whites and Asians, are VERY aware of how frequent they are or will have to interact with blacks, when considering job opportunities and/or living accommodations. And I will go you one further, this isn't reserved to whatever "underclass" you speak of. Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those "visiting cousins" in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home.

    Scotty, you took the words right out of my mouth. Where are these magical cities where one can take the train, take the bus, walk to lunch or dinner, go shopping, etc., without encountering hostile and rude and often menacing Africans?

    I lived in Philly, and it is utterly absurd to say that you can avoid Africans in daily life if you work downtown, or on Drexel campus, or on Penn campus, etc. Same with Washington DC, Cleveland and Cincinnati OH, Newark or Trenton NJ, Detroit, Denver, Saint Louis, and sure as Hell here in Los Angeles.

    No matter where one lives, as soon as you go to the downtown, there they are, ready and eager to glare, to block your way on the sidewalk, intimidate, insult, sometimes assault, and generally enjoy making your life fearful and miserable.

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    In Los Aageles and Denver,yes, but not much in most of the other cities of the southwest to anywhere near the same amount. Not so much in San Diego, not so much in Phoenix, not so much in Tucson, not so much in Albuquerque, and definitely not in El Paso.
    , @daniel le mouche
    'as soon as you go to the downtown, there they are, ready and eager to glare, to block your way on the sidewalk, intimidate'

    You've reminded me of my Philly years, and how walking between Walnut and Market on 11th Street, you literally couldn't do it with being played 'Chicken' with by some black thug, and I mean every one you encountered. White boy moves, or white boy gets a hard shoulder, followed up very likely by much worse. Or giving money to a homeless guy and him smacking it out of my hand because it wasn't enough. Or never being able to walk a block with my black girlfriend without (and usually I wouldn't even hold her hand in public) being verbally abused and intimidated, often by groups of older, very angry negroid men. Or.... Or.... Or....

    , @joef

    Scotty, you took the words right out of my mouth. Where are these magical cities where one can take the train, take the bus, walk to lunch or dinner, go shopping, etc., without encountering hostile and rude and often menacing Africans?

     

    It was certainly that way during the old days in the da Bronx. When aggressive afros got defeated from a strong defensive response, they almost never took their beating like a man (White man racist for not allowing me to attack him for no reason). One day we will no longer tolerate the intolerable, and the majority of afros have only themselves to blame. IF they do not want this outcome they should accept responsibility, stop hating without cause, and change their ways now ( unfortunately, there is not much hope for this to happen).
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  47. @Dr. X

    Accustomed to such numbers by long exposure, we forget that scholastic catastrophe of this magnitude would be unthinkable in any other civilized society.

     

    "Civilized societies," by definition, do not have blacks.

    So we do nothing while things worsen and the world looks on astounded.
     
    To the contrary, the world is copying our problem by importing Negroes and Muslims. Italy, Germany, Sweden, France, and the UK are willingly creating racial nightmares of their own.

    And the Germans with whom I speak every week (our kids are in German classes) — mostly born and raised in Germany — get nervous, then indignant, then insulting, when I urge them to be realistic and stop importing into Germany the Hell that we already have here.

    They have a ready excuse or evasion for every rape, every grope, every assault, every theft, every crime wave, every belligerent demand by Africans and Muslims in their country.

    They are much angrier at me for pointing out the facts than they are at the people physically hurting and threatening their own people every hour in Germany now.

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  48. Wally says:
    @Anonymous
    I agree with this.

    Black people have always had high crime rates, high teenage pregnancy, and low academic success rates. What white HBD types never acknowledge is whites backsliding and copying ghetto black culture and being guilty of the very things that blacks do in ever increasing numbers.

    Whites are devolving into a small higher caste group of whites with high iq and a much larger lower caste group of whites with low iq that has the same issues blacks deal with.

    Also, as much as violent crime is a problem the main issue with America is not black violence. It is white collar crime that is almost exclusively the domain of white people.

    Add up all of the crimes of blacks, and it does not come close to the cost of white collar crime from white people.

    Got proof?

    Nope, you’re just making it up.

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    Charles Murray, J.D. Vance, and Kevin Williamson have written about the rise of the white underclass, among others.
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  49. Wally says:
    @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    “When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself.”

    Why should we believe you, your agenda is obvious?

    However, there are violent whites, but the numbers are minute when compared to blacks & browns.
    I suggest you read:
    Color of Crime.

    https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

    Come back when you’re ready to back up your assertions.

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    However, there are violent whites, but the numbers are minute when compared to blacks & browns.
     
    Yeah, but apparently they didn't BUSS this gentleman in the side of his head. The whiteboyz did.
    , @Alden
    I don't believe Gene Su either. What gives away the lie is the claim the attackers were Irish and Italian. The Irish and Italians moved to the suburbs generations ago.

    Irish and Italian punks was a big city 1940's thing. For a true tale of how Asian kids were and are treated by black thugs read China Boy by Gus Lee.

    Gus grew up I'm 1950s San Francisco inner Richmond district. The neighborhood then and now is Asian and White. But his elementary school was just on the boundary between his neighborhood and a black neighborhood. The book's his auto biography. He and the few White and Asian kids were so abused and beaten by the blacks that his Dad sent him to the YMCA for self defense classes when he was 7 or 8.. This was in the early 1950s long before judo became a popular kids activity.

    The longest running anti bussing lawsuit in the country was filed by the Chinese of San Francisco in I believe 1966 when the unspeakably evil federal judges ordered school busing. The Chinese lost and filed again. They lost and filed again . It went on for decades.
    , @Gene Su
    I find it quite annoying when conservatives (especially those at Takimag) pen emotional essays delineating how violent black bullies can be (which are true) but then sneer at liberals who sometimes support blacks as "Jews who were beaten up as kids by gentiles." You sound like you are doing the same.

    I did have a look at that report and some of the statistics that it is citing. A couple of points stood out at me.

    It might be true that more than half of all US murders are committed by blacks, despite the fact they only make about 15% of the nation's population. However, most murders perpetrated by blacks are inflicted on other blacks. Most other crime categories have blacks over-represented but not by much. This proves my point about how whites are fooled because they are not often on the receiving end of black crime. Most whites personally deal with white criminals, not blacks.
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  50. @Okechukwu

    But, back to the basketball players: As they awaited a decade in a Chinese slam, Donald Trump–drum roll, trumpets—drops from the sky like a thunderbolt, weaning a red, white, and blue cape. He intervenes to save three two-bit semi-literate boosters.
     
    What does any of this have to do with anything? How does it constitute a "racial snapshot." There are white men boinking little boys tonight. Is that a snapshot too?

    Baltimore has passed three hundred murders for the year.
     
    Gee, a couple of white men wracked up nearly 1/3 of this body count in a few hours.

    It is one that dare not raise its head: that blacks cannot compete with whites, Asians, or Latin-Americans.
     
    This is patently false. I know from personal experience having been in classes with whites, Asians and Latin Americans. And I'm not alone.

    The furious resistance to the very idea of measuring intelligence suggests awareness of the likely outcome. You don’t avoid a test if you expect good results.
     
    The people in love with the idea of measuring intelligence tend not to be very bright themselves. That's the great irony and the dilemma you face in moving that needle in the direction you want.

    We have mob attacks by Black Lives Matter, the never-ending Knockout Game, flash mobs looting stores and subway trains, occasional burning cities, and we do nothing. Which makes sense, because there is nothing to be done short of restructuring the country.
     
    On what planet is all of this happening? This planet? Okay, cite with credible evidence any of these events taking place today or this week or this month or this year.

    The people in love with the idea of measuring intelligence tend not to be very bright themselves. That’s the great irony and the dilemma you face in moving that needle in the direction you want.

    I’m not at all sure that they “tend” not to be very bright, but assuming it’s true, it is perhaps ironic, but how is it a “dilemma”?

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    People who assume those who disagree with them tend not to be very bright tend not to be very bright. I'll leave you to work out the implications.
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  51. Wally says: • Website

    Yet Israel allows JEWS ONLY, but then Jews demand massive low IQ, 3rd world immigration into white Gentile countries.

    Israel to shut migrant centre and deport Africans

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/israel-to-shut-migrant-centre-and-deport-africans/

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  52. @Anonymouse
    Recently visited NYC staying in Riverside accessible by pricey Metroliner from midtown and also accessible by subway. So I took the subway. I also took the A train subway to JFK airport and to check out Broad Channel housing. Yes, the subway is where one can check out the deportment of groups of black kids and likewise groups of white underclass kids. Loud, yes, but IMHO sufficiently domesticated by NYC schools to maintain acceptable behavior standards when on the subway and posing no threat to others. Of course this is merely anecdotal but suggestive. I suggest that the takeaway from this "evidence" is that it is easy to exaggerate and stereotype black behavior. I have a public library recall for Scoreboard, Baby and look forward to the vicarious pleasure of reading about bad behavior of black university athletes.. Public behavior in America historically has been raucous and riotous. As the majority white Americans grew more civilized, American negroes enfranchised post the Civil Rights '60s are keeping up the old American wildness. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Germany came to Kentucky when 14 years old. He told me he was quite taken aback by the rough behavior of American kids compared to behavior of German kids. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Greece reported how impressed he was by the way American kids could self-organize, playing sports where the individual team members could seamless change teams and automatically correlate with their new teammates. In Greece, he said, team play would immediately collapse in unresolvable argument about the outcome of each play. When it comes to politico-ideological viewpoints, it is easy to succumb to exaggeration.

    That’s true. Too many people downplay white dysfunction.

    Whites only became domesticated after a ton of liberal social engineering, which blacks were not subjected to. With underclass social dysfunction spreading in the white community and underclass problems that have afflicted the black community increasingly affecting the white community (albeit with less violent crime), this social engineering is being undone.

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  53. @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    Of course they hide how dysfunctional American whites are becoming, because if you haven’t figured it out already HBD and “race realism” are just about building whites up and denigrating every other group. It’s the white nerd’s equivalent of “we were kings and queens in Africa” The prohlem does lie essentially in the schools. More discipline in the schools – something the Obama admijnistration virtually eliminated – would solve a lot of problems.

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    The problem does lie essentially in the schools. More discipline in the schools – something the Obama admijnistration virtually eliminated – would solve a lot of problems.
     
    Oh boy do you have rose colored glasses. If you impose discipline in the schools and make blacks meet the same standards as whites that is racist and blacks will raise hell like always. So whites move away and build new schools until the blacks follow them and the process starts over again. Besides, there is intense peer pressure in the black community to be a gangsta and thug. Acting respectable is selling out to whitey. Most black men have no fathers and that's not going to change.

    You act like pre-Obama murica had few racial problems and that black violence, dysfunction and indiscipline only resulted from eight years of his presidency.

    Separation is the only answer.
    , @Wally
    They do?

    Who is "they"?

    Compared to blacks? Not even close.

    Again, read Color of Crime.
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  54. @RadicalCenter
    Scotty, you took the words right out of my mouth. Where are these magical cities where one can take the train, take the bus, walk to lunch or dinner, go shopping, etc., without encountering hostile and rude and often menacing Africans?

    I lived in Philly, and it is utterly absurd to say that you can avoid Africans in daily life if you work downtown, or on Drexel campus, or on Penn campus, etc. Same with Washington DC, Cleveland and Cincinnati OH, Newark or Trenton NJ, Detroit, Denver, Saint Louis, and sure as Hell here in Los Angeles.

    No matter where one lives, as soon as you go to the downtown, there they are, ready and eager to glare, to block your way on the sidewalk, intimidate, insult, sometimes assault, and generally enjoy making your life fearful and miserable.

    In Los Aageles and Denver,yes, but not much in most of the other cities of the southwest to anywhere near the same amount. Not so much in San Diego, not so much in Phoenix, not so much in Tucson, not so much in Albuquerque, and definitely not in El Paso.

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    Interesting to learn, HK. I have very little experience with those Arizona cities, and none with those Texas cities. As for Albuquerque, where I briefly lied, have friends, and have visited many times, aren't there just mercifully few Africans in ABQ?
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  55. @Meretricious
    "I’m going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem."--dude, it also includes all the black middle classes: these affirmative action parasites (see Obama family) stir up the underclass with all their invidious racial grievances.

    “dude, it also includes all the black middle classes”

    I think that without government jobs, there would be no black middle class to speak of. Among the middle class black people that I know personally, most are either retired from a government job or currently employed by government of some level. The remaining few that I know are affirmative action hires and I don’t know any middle class black business owners.

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    In the last figures that I saw, 60% of black college graduates work for government.
    , @Alden
    National review published stats that showed 85 percent of employed blacks work for government or quasi government places such as hospitals.
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  56. @Dr. X

    The ultimate solution is (at least) two societies, but it will probably take a civil war to impose it.
     
    We actually had one of those... and it imposed the integrated society we have today.

    No, Dr. X, there has never been a civil war here. There was a war to prevent the secession of some states, but never a civil war, which is a war to take control of an existing government. The Confederate States just seceded, leaving the US government in place.

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  57. @daniel le mouche
    They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus 'big happy family'--no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this 'ideal' (i.e. black man + white woman).
    But to more immediate matters at hand, a rational and just society (the diametrical opposite to ours, it goes without saying) would lock up these animals. Those who show they can be civilized--till they no longer can, that is (OJ, so many others)--can continue to reap what used to be the endless benefits of such a wealthy society.
    Never mind. The simple reality (again, shown by so much horrific life experience) is that they will always hate whitey, and in the most violent, aggressive manner. And thoughtful, honest whites will remember their own heritage, not fall for Jew propaganda of multicultural utopia, and realize in great numbers, again--not long ago, most did--that they don't want to be around these fuckers anyway, no matter what. We have every right (if only we didn't behave like pussies) to live in European societies, sans darkie hordes, especially of the Afro American variety.

    nuyorwegian –

    Why are black men about 12 times more likely to perpetrate inter-racial acts of violence than white men?

    Why do so many millions of Negroes fail to pass basic English proficiency exams?

    Why are cities, counties, and countries governed by black majorities almost always a disaster?

    Why are black people far more likely than any other racial group to engage in anti-social behavior?

    Why are blacks far more likely to be born out-of-wedlock than any other racial group?

    Why?

    Instead of addressing these facts, you, like too many, lash out with puerile canards and empty asseverations of “racism” and “white supremacy”.

    That dog won’t hunt.

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    and:
    Gays, Blacks, cause of the massive increase in STDs says CDC
    http://newobserveronline.com/homos-hetro-blacks-cause-std-disaster-says-cdc/
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  58. Truth says:
    @Colleen Pater
    YOURE A LIAR
    I have lived in NYC for 60 years I grew up in the lower east side now called east village and have lived the last ten in crown heights I have lived in harlem and all over brooklyn. I too have many black and hispanic friends I also work in a majority minority ( by Court order) industry. Being a city kid I speak spanglish blacklish and all the rest, in short I pass i can use the word nigger in front of niggers and not an eye brow is raised thats how well i pass. Im also an NYU educated upper middle class white with 130 IQ whos insane parents decided to live in a slum when they could have afforded fifth avenue.
    The point is you are a fucking liar if you think the people you have selected as friends and acquaintances are a representative sample, its no different than the elite scum who pretend the nigger from grad school or the one who made it to the cubicle next to them is representative,The statistics are what is representative * times the murder rate of whites and hispanics combined, fathers unheard of, two siblings of the same father unheard of.an 85 average IQ for the half of the blacks with 25% white blood closer to 65 IQ for the the other half of recent immigrant blacks.I play a game can i walk down to the block to te store and back home without seeing or hearing a black do or say something so heinous i would hear or see a white do the same thing in 20 years I never lose this game, of course it helps that I understand what they are saying where as 99% of whites have no idea what 60% of what blacks say means.
    The sad reality is we should have shipped them back after the civil war, we dont owe them shit. slavery was an elite british thing its not on the heads of any american even by 1176 we were trying to undo it and 85 years later fought a war to undo it its not on us its really on no one. every single race has had slavery only whites eradicated it. we owe blacks nothing but a ticket home

    I have lived in NYC for 60 years I… in short I pass i can use the word nigger in front of niggers and not an eye brow is raised thats how well i pass.

    LMFAO!

    A 60-year old white man who can walk up to some cats he doesn’t know, N-Bomb to his heart’s content and nobody notices?

    Damn WhiteFolks, I heard you died!?!?

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    A lot of white hos is, uh, more marketable
     
    Pimpin ain't PC.
    , @Colleen Pater
    They notice they also notice i have no fear of them, have grown up in as bad and worse ghettos than they have ever experience done time and am covered in scars and muscles they know that I dont insult them i simply talk the same way they do because i grew up the same they do and they know the way I carry myself if they want to challenge the inflection of my delivery of the word nigger its going to be a physically settled question. if you were not a hipster yuppie faggot you would no that hispanics mideasterners and yes whites too all say nigger just like blacks do and no one questions this because its just how ghetto people talk.I can also call them blodclots bubaclot batty boys.
    whats unusual is I also grew up to go to events at the met and schools on the upper east side at times, and i ended up eventually as a union foreman with mostly minorities under me. I can pass just about any where from biker gathering to the worst slums in mexico or the USa,I even understand enough farsi and spanish to know whats generally being said and can speak it enough to make them worry i understand it all
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  59. Truth says:
    @Wally
    "When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself."

    Why should we believe you, your agenda is obvious?

    However, there are violent whites, but the numbers are minute when compared to blacks & browns.
    I suggest you read:
    Color of Crime.
    https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

    Come back when you're ready to back up your assertions.

    However, there are violent whites, but the numbers are minute when compared to blacks & browns.

    Yeah, but apparently they didn’t BUSS this gentleman in the side of his head. The whiteboyz did.

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    Say what, Negro?
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  60. @Bragadocious
    I don't like black crime anymore than anyone else. I take precautions to not be a victim.

    On the other hand, black crime is our problem. They're our people, whether you like it or not. And that will never change.

    Here's my question. Just because we have lots of lawbreakers in this country, why do we want more from another country? And saying "they're not as bad as blacks" is not an argument.

    The black underclass doesn’t regard themselves as being your people. They feel no loyalty towards you Why feel loyalty towards them?

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  61. @Wally
    Got proof?

    Nope, you're just making it up.

    Charles Murray, J.D. Vance, and Kevin Williamson have written about the rise of the white underclass, among others.

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  62. @Jake
    If you think Mexicans are even a third as bad as blacks, then either you are ignorant of a least one of them or else you are multiple times more anti-Mexican than Reed is pro-Mexican.

    No group that is in the US is as bad as the black underclass. Or even comes close to being as bad. I suspect how much contact many of the “race realist” posters have had with the black underclass if they think that any other group comes close.

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  63. MBlanc46 says:
    @daniel le mouche
    They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus 'big happy family'--no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this 'ideal' (i.e. black man + white woman).
    But to more immediate matters at hand, a rational and just society (the diametrical opposite to ours, it goes without saying) would lock up these animals. Those who show they can be civilized--till they no longer can, that is (OJ, so many others)--can continue to reap what used to be the endless benefits of such a wealthy society.
    Never mind. The simple reality (again, shown by so much horrific life experience) is that they will always hate whitey, and in the most violent, aggressive manner. And thoughtful, honest whites will remember their own heritage, not fall for Jew propaganda of multicultural utopia, and realize in great numbers, again--not long ago, most did--that they don't want to be around these fuckers anyway, no matter what. We have every right (if only we didn't behave like pussies) to live in European societies, sans darkie hordes, especially of the Afro American variety.

    Shipping them out isn’t going to happen. It didn’t happen in the 19th century, it won’t happen in the 21st. As Mr Reed appears to suggest, significant segregation is possible. Most blacks don’t like white people and don’t want to live among us. Black nationalism has had strong support among blacks since the 19th century. Race realists who want to ameliorate racial conflict should support black nationalism.

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    As Mr Reed appears to suggest, significant segregation is possible. Most blacks don’t like white people and don’t want to live among us.
     
    One problem with that solution: They can never give up their addiction for Non Black money to pay for afro entitlements. They certainly could not maintain a decent standard of living without us (they would more than likely starve from their own lazy lack of initiative). And this addiction is what is weighing down our economy with afro produced debt (not the only cause but a maj one);

    whether from equal housing lender bank loans, subprime car loans, easy access credit cards, Obama phones, Medicaid (with overwhelmed hospital emergency rooms leading to bankrupted hospital closings), EBT cards, section eight housing, free school lunch, (robberies, burglaries, & larcenies) etc etc, they are primarily responsible for our unprecedented debt levels that will not realistically be paid back (and still continues to grow). The only thing that will stop this afro addiction for more entitlements is national bankruptcy (and municipal/State defaults are the canaries in the coal mine for this process). They may hate us without cause, but they love our money more, and will refuse to part ways with it.

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  64. MBlanc46 says:
    @joef

    So we do nothing while things worsen and the world looks on astounded. We have mob attacks by Black Lives Matter, the never-ending Knockout Game, flash mobs looting stores and subway trains, occasional burning cities, and we do nothing. Which makes sense, because there is nothing to be done short of restructuring the country.

    Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.
     

    That is an accurate summation of the afro american problem. And there is no reversal pending for this disastrous formula of racial balkanization plus economic decline. As more & more States and municipalities go bust, our economic situation will continue to disintegrate. Afros will not reform themselves (there is no incentive for them to do so because we always give in to their demands), leftist enable their antisocial dysfunctions, and libs fearfully ignore the obvious. Confirmation bias did not keep the Titanic afloat, nor will liberal confirmation bias keep this unsustainable afro burden afloat.

    The situation has not improved for the last half century, and in fact has gotten much much worse. If you logically project this forward in time, you must honestly conclude that the future of this nation will entail a great deal of scarcity, strife, and struggle. When the economy unravels, afros will not peacefully wait on line for food, fuel, and banks. When afros don't get easy entitlements they will attack, and at that point you will be forced to either fight or die. If libs choose to die in self deception, so be it, that's their problem, don't make it ours.

    While we truly wish this was different, afros aggressively push for more!

    This appears to me to be a pretty accurate prediction of the future of the US.

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  65. MBlanc46 says:
    @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    No one is forcing you to stay here, pal. If you don’t like it here, leave.

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    The US has mightily benefited from the infusion of European and Asian brains; without them the "here" would perhaps have become a third world country much faster than the current rate of transformation allows. And may I ask you, are you a Mayflower descendant or a progeny of some late newcomers from impoverished lands overseas?
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  66. MBlanc46 says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    The flash point is likely to come as we run out of whites who tolerate black dysfunction. Mexicans bring their own problems (sorry, Fred, they do) but they have much less tolerance for black dysfunction. Someday, blacks are going to commit some atrocity in a Mexican community and the Mexicans are going to react as whites did in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1921.

    The ultimate solution is (at least) two societies, but it will probably take a civil war to impose it.

    Disaggregation is the only way forward with a reasonably positive outcome. Conflict will almost certainly be involved. Let’s hope that it stops short of full-scale civil war.

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    I too hope for some solution, and disaggregation is a good term, without a full-blown racial civil war. As Enoch Powell noted, however, if you predict something, you are accused of causing, or hoping for it. Certainly not in my case.

    But black attitudes towards whites are more complex than some commentators suggest. While it is certainly true blacks don't like whites, they do tend to like the kind of society whites create: the lights stay on and the malt liquor's on the convenience store shelf. Black nationalists generally want some kind of long-term white involvement--even they can see the disasters in Africa, Haiti, Detroit and Baltimore.
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  67. gustafus says:
    @Bragadocious
    Fred's schtick is obvious. It's to get people ginned up about the black menace so they're compliant about accepting 30 million Jose Zarates into the country.

    Can Unz fire Reed and hire Allan Wall instead? He's much better.

    Great Sermon by a Black Preacher — BLACKS HAVE A PROBLEM – and it ain’t White.

    That said – Fred talks about blacks unable to suppress harmful urges or understand even horizons.

    In plain English –

    Those with an IQ below 90 cannot participate in self governing Democracy. Deficiencies include, but are not confined to –

    ——Inability to stifle harmful urges [ theft, crime, self destructive behavior]

    ——Cannot defer gratification [ entitled Black Athlete steals on impulse]

    ——Cannot resolve conflict without violence [ crime stats in every black city]

    ——Don’t comprehend the concept of “event horizons” or “intermediate vs final ends, goals”

    So Far – Fred is on the money because the mean IQ of blacks is 80 – 85.

    What he fails to address is his BELOVED MEXICO and parts south – are inhabited by 600 million peasants with a mean IQ of 85.

    Mexico is corrupt to it’s core – racist to its core – and the stratification between dark, Indian low IQ Mexicans and the more educated but equally debased ruling white class… is, well, IQ.

    The Mexico of Fred’s affection is the elitist enclave where he lives among the lighter, brighter, who we see on LATIN TV, the weather channel, and in beauty contests.

    Latin America has all the same problems as we do with race – and does NOTHING to advance the interests of those on the bottom rung — they ship em HERE.

    It’s hard to respect Fred’s insight when the log in his eye came out of his bedroom.

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    It's not IQ. It's the failure of the unionized educational system, it is illegitimacy, it is welfare. and it is the general erosion of standards.
    , @Grandpa Charlie
    gustafus,

    I do not agree with your criticism of Fred Reed; however, I do agree with many of the ideas of Dr. Manning. I've watched/listened to his sermons before and he is very impressive. I believe he is a true Christian and a brave man.
    , @Dumbo
    Not all is IQ. Low IQ doesn't cause people to be violent, just dumb. The cause of violence in those populations is more likely high testosterone, or some gene linked to aggressive behavior, which perhaps helped them to survive on previous times. Pre-Columbian tribes were very violent, African tribes too. Whites and Asians can be violent too but they control it or organize it better and are more socially cooperative.
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  68. MBlanc46 says:
    @Okechukwu

    But, back to the basketball players: As they awaited a decade in a Chinese slam, Donald Trump–drum roll, trumpets—drops from the sky like a thunderbolt, weaning a red, white, and blue cape. He intervenes to save three two-bit semi-literate boosters.
     
    What does any of this have to do with anything? How does it constitute a "racial snapshot." There are white men boinking little boys tonight. Is that a snapshot too?

    Baltimore has passed three hundred murders for the year.
     
    Gee, a couple of white men wracked up nearly 1/3 of this body count in a few hours.

    It is one that dare not raise its head: that blacks cannot compete with whites, Asians, or Latin-Americans.
     
    This is patently false. I know from personal experience having been in classes with whites, Asians and Latin Americans. And I'm not alone.

    The furious resistance to the very idea of measuring intelligence suggests awareness of the likely outcome. You don’t avoid a test if you expect good results.
     
    The people in love with the idea of measuring intelligence tend not to be very bright themselves. That's the great irony and the dilemma you face in moving that needle in the direction you want.

    We have mob attacks by Black Lives Matter, the never-ending Knockout Game, flash mobs looting stores and subway trains, occasional burning cities, and we do nothing. Which makes sense, because there is nothing to be done short of restructuring the country.
     
    On what planet is all of this happening? This planet? Okay, cite with credible evidence any of these events taking place today or this week or this month or this year.

    Sounds as if you’d be quite happy in a black polity. Let’s work on that together.

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  69. MBlanc46 says:
    @jilles dykstra
    According to Howard Zinn, what the USA ruling elite fears most is that poor USA citizens unite, regardless of colour

    Yes, that’s the old Leftist bromide: class differences are real, other differences are invented by the ruling class to divide the workers. I’m not surprised that Howard Zinn believes it. I am surprised that annyone else does.

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  70. eah says:
    @nuyorwegian
    Fred Reed, daniel le mouche; where do you live? Reading your words is like reading Alice in Wonderland. I feel like you are certifiably insane. I am a white person who has lived in Harlem all of my adult life (40 years). You want to "ship out" my life long friends and neighbors?!? Are you out of your mind? You couldn't possibly have cultivated such absurd racist notions if you actually had regular contact, lasting friendships and family ties with real life "black" people. Ron Unz has done a great service by providing us this forum of alternative views. But many of the articles and comments exude the putrid stench of racism, white supremacy to be precise; a disease of the mind and heart. I pity you sitting behind your computer screen spouting such vile criminal absurdities as shipping black americans to Africa. Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    Do you have any clear notion of what life will be like for Whites in a majority non-white America?

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    "Do you have any clear notion of what life will be like for Whites in a majority non-white America?"

    We can speculate. That is, you do not have a clear notion, but just a guess. But if I had to hazard one, Generation Z is the bell weather here, as it reflects a demographic shift, one who generally exhibits positive feelings about ethnic diversity in America and is more likely than older generations to have social circles that include different ethnic groups, races, and religions.
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  71. MBlanc46 says:
    @nuyorwegian
    Fred Reed, daniel le mouche; where do you live? Reading your words is like reading Alice in Wonderland. I feel like you are certifiably insane. I am a white person who has lived in Harlem all of my adult life (40 years). You want to "ship out" my life long friends and neighbors?!? Are you out of your mind? You couldn't possibly have cultivated such absurd racist notions if you actually had regular contact, lasting friendships and family ties with real life "black" people. Ron Unz has done a great service by providing us this forum of alternative views. But many of the articles and comments exude the putrid stench of racism, white supremacy to be precise; a disease of the mind and heart. I pity you sitting behind your computer screen spouting such vile criminal absurdities as shipping black americans to Africa. Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    Living in close proximity to blacks is the principal route to race realism.

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  72. MBlanc46 says:
    @Scotty
    Gene Su, you either are joking or are naive. If you have EVER lived in any major metro area in the United States you will ALWAYS have interactions with the so-called, as you describe it, "black underclass". Try any subway line in the United States. Both blacks and whites live in fear of black teens and blacks in general that roam, often with mental disorders, throughout large swaths of urban areas, looking for easy targets. Normies of EVERY RACE, but particular Whites and Asians, are VERY aware of how frequent they are or will have to interact with blacks, when considering job opportunities and/or living accommodations. And I will go you one further, this isn't reserved to whatever "underclass" you speak of. Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those "visiting cousins" in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home.

    Absolutely. It’s proximity to blacks that causes race realism.

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  73. joef says:
    @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    Yes you are correct there are thugs in every racial category, but that is pointing out the obvious. However, the real point is not that thugs exist among Non Blacks groups (of course they do), but it is the disproportionate amount of afro american thugs that commit the overwhelming amount of violence in this nation (as reported over the decades by newspapers accounts, and FBI crime reporting data). As compared to Non Blacks, the afros level of homicides committed is truly staggering.

    It is true that cities like New York, and Philly (and others in the BosWash megapolis), there are those who never routinely encountered afro thuggery. But there are also many of us who encountered afros on a semi routine basis, and dealt with their antisocial destructive acts. And actually the ones who have had zero contact are the ones who actually are the problem. Because they are pathologically naive when it comes to racial realism about afros, falsely believing in afros victimhood. Limo Libs rather ignore the afro problem instead of confronting it, and dislike anyone who brings it up.

    They show no empathy for Non Black crime victims, and in the most extreme cases, they actually deny their existence. They rather pander to afro fake victimhood to maintain their stylish Limo Liberal vogue (while the real victims suffer in unacknowledged silence). That it why many of us have learned not to show Limo Libs any sympathy when they finally suffer from the afro Frankenstein monster that they helped to create. Let them receive some of the pain that other Non Blacks had to endure, while the Limo Libs pontificated from afar.

    Being raised in a urban working class ‘Catholic ghetto’ white neighborhood (which included some Puerto Ricans), I knew many bottom feeders within my community that it would be prudent to avoid. Some reformed themselves, some died young, some killed, some alcoholics, some homeless, some in prison, but we were allowed to readily identify them as problem people…

    …only with the afros we are not allowed to honestly identify their criminal actions, and forced to pretend that it is not their fault. This Limo Lib social strategy has lasted because this nation has been in relative prosperity, but as we continue this prolonged recession (or worse devolve in failed state like conditions, and default), the luxury of ignoring this overwhelming afro deviance will be a luxury we can no longer afford.

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    Yes you are correct there are thugs in every racial category, but that is pointing out the obvious.
     
    Please note that I am not trying to let blacks off the hook or downplay their dysfunctional behavior. I am trying to state the reason why I think a lot of whites are fooled into thinking that there is no black thug problem. If the white delinquency and criminal problem was lessened, the black thug class would stick out as a sorer thumb.

    This Limo Lib social strategy has lasted because this nation has been in relative prosperity, but as we continue this prolonged recession (or worse devolve in failed state like conditions, and default), the luxury of ignoring this overwhelming afro deviance will be a luxury we can no longer afford.

     

    Perhaps the best thing that can happen to America is for a complete economic and social collapse. Such an event will break the welfare/warfare state as well as Leftist control.
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  74. gustafus says:
    @nuyorwegian
    Fred Reed, daniel le mouche; where do you live? Reading your words is like reading Alice in Wonderland. I feel like you are certifiably insane. I am a white person who has lived in Harlem all of my adult life (40 years). You want to "ship out" my life long friends and neighbors?!? Are you out of your mind? You couldn't possibly have cultivated such absurd racist notions if you actually had regular contact, lasting friendships and family ties with real life "black" people. Ron Unz has done a great service by providing us this forum of alternative views. But many of the articles and comments exude the putrid stench of racism, white supremacy to be precise; a disease of the mind and heart. I pity you sitting behind your computer screen spouting such vile criminal absurdities as shipping black americans to Africa. Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    I have a clear notion…. I sift my darkies on a need to basis. I am a native of the Rocky Mountain West… Denver has it’s NIGGERS – but they are confined to their ghettos

    The rest of the region has a dusting of this plague… s0 the effects are minimal. That’s how it works best. My UPS driver is black .. and harmless. I wouldn’t trust his kids… but who knows, it might be a success story.

    I have ZERO interest in lasting ties with Blacks or Latinos, Muslims or Eskimos. I’ve had a taste of all of em… and I don’t like it.

    Hamilton’s Rule…. we care for and protect those who look and act like we do. When the aforementioned begin to comport themselves like me and mine… I will carefully allow them to get closer to that which I love.

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  75. Malla says:

    Check this out

    Black Africans are still slaves in Yemen

    Treated like shit in Iraq

    In Israel

    In India

    In North Africa auctioned as slaves

    Yet we see no Black lives matters in any of those places, no Al Sharpton, no funding from Soros for anything. Strange they attack a civilization which has stopped black slavery, given them a very high standard of living, excessive attention in the media but are completely quite about those places where are are treated like shit and enslaved.

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  76. https://www.amren.com/news/2017/12/boyfriend-colorado-woman-arrested-murder-four-years-went-missing/

    Jungle Fever too addictive to white women.

    It will be the end of the white race, esp as tens and then 100s of millions of black Africans will swarm into Europe.

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  77. @Anonymous
    I agree with this.

    Black people have always had high crime rates, high teenage pregnancy, and low academic success rates. What white HBD types never acknowledge is whites backsliding and copying ghetto black culture and being guilty of the very things that blacks do in ever increasing numbers.

    Whites are devolving into a small higher caste group of whites with high iq and a much larger lower caste group of whites with low iq that has the same issues blacks deal with.

    Also, as much as violent crime is a problem the main issue with America is not black violence. It is white collar crime that is almost exclusively the domain of white people.

    Add up all of the crimes of blacks, and it does not come close to the cost of white collar crime from white people.

    HBD types have acknowledged, and have even proposed a mechanism that explains the “white backsliding”…

    It’s called assortative mating. See: “Coming Apart” by Charles Murray

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  78. MBlanc46 says:
    @Twodees Partain
    "dude, it also includes all the black middle classes"

    I think that without government jobs, there would be no black middle class to speak of. Among the middle class black people that I know personally, most are either retired from a government job or currently employed by government of some level. The remaining few that I know are affirmative action hires and I don't know any middle class black business owners.

    In the last figures that I saw, 60% of black college graduates work for government.

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  79. @gustafus
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Ts4oLSKoQ

    Great Sermon by a Black Preacher -- BLACKS HAVE A PROBLEM - and it ain't White.

    That said - Fred talks about blacks unable to suppress harmful urges or understand even horizons.

    In plain English -

    Those with an IQ below 90 cannot participate in self governing Democracy. Deficiencies include, but are not confined to -

    ------Inability to stifle harmful urges [ theft, crime, self destructive behavior]

    ------Cannot defer gratification [ entitled Black Athlete steals on impulse]

    ------Cannot resolve conflict without violence [ crime stats in every black city]

    ------Don't comprehend the concept of "event horizons" or "intermediate vs final ends, goals"

    So Far - Fred is on the money because the mean IQ of blacks is 80 - 85.

    What he fails to address is his BELOVED MEXICO and parts south - are inhabited by 600 million peasants with a mean IQ of 85.

    Mexico is corrupt to it's core - racist to its core - and the stratification between dark, Indian low IQ Mexicans and the more educated but equally debased ruling white class... is, well, IQ.

    The Mexico of Fred's affection is the elitist enclave where he lives among the lighter, brighter, who we see on LATIN TV, the weather channel, and in beauty contests.

    Latin America has all the same problems as we do with race - and does NOTHING to advance the interests of those on the bottom rung -- they ship em HERE.

    It's hard to respect Fred's insight when the log in his eye came out of his bedroom.

    It’s not IQ. It’s the failure of the unionized educational system, it is illegitimacy, it is welfare. and it is the general erosion of standards.

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    No, it is the normal state of being black. Africa and the ME are proof.
    , @Vincent
    Indeed. All those asian kids here in the US are such horrid students.
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  80. @MBlanc46
    Disaggregation is the only way forward with a reasonably positive outcome. Conflict will almost certainly be involved. Let’s hope that it stops short of full-scale civil war.

    I too hope for some solution, and disaggregation is a good term, without a full-blown racial civil war. As Enoch Powell noted, however, if you predict something, you are accused of causing, or hoping for it. Certainly not in my case.

    But black attitudes towards whites are more complex than some commentators suggest. While it is certainly true blacks don’t like whites, they do tend to like the kind of society whites create: the lights stay on and the malt liquor’s on the convenience store shelf. Black nationalists generally want some kind of long-term white involvement–even they can see the disasters in Africa, Haiti, Detroit and Baltimore.

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  81. re the “solution” to the Negro problem: well, there is none that I know of, short of mandatory sterilization for underclass blacks. The major problem is that blacks, without whites, are helpless. They know this, so the idea that we can convince the Negroes to band together and start their own nation is a farce

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    True. The only reason we are no longer seeing famine in Africa and India is because the white West has poured trillions of dollars into both shitholes.
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  82. My forefathers tried to hack it amidst their own developed and educated world but were overwhelmed. So they struck out for the Americas, where plagues had emptied whole villages of inhabitants before them.

    My wife and I are asking ourselves whether we should learn from their example. Things point to SE Asia for us. What would be the point of clinging to Rome as it burns?

    If you’re more of a swashbuckler type then why not a mine in Afghanistan or the Congo. I can see how appealing it would be to have a private mercenary army. Twin belt-fed .30 caliber machine guns on jeeps. Hum Vees pulling rocket launchers. Bags of gold and gems.

    Someone sufficiently fed up with affirmative action, feminism, PC tyranny – that would surely charm them. It’s a little too rustic for me. But my ancestors had to fight Indians and French, British and the occasional pirates. So I should carry the flag in some kind of challenge short of mass murder and mayhem.

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  83. Alden says:
    @Wally
    "When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself."

    Why should we believe you, your agenda is obvious?

    However, there are violent whites, but the numbers are minute when compared to blacks & browns.
    I suggest you read:
    Color of Crime.
    https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

    Come back when you're ready to back up your assertions.

    I don’t believe Gene Su either. What gives away the lie is the claim the attackers were Irish and Italian. The Irish and Italians moved to the suburbs generations ago.

    Irish and Italian punks was a big city 1940′s thing. For a true tale of how Asian kids were and are treated by black thugs read China Boy by Gus Lee.

    Gus grew up I’m 1950s San Francisco inner Richmond district. The neighborhood then and now is Asian and White. But his elementary school was just on the boundary between his neighborhood and a black neighborhood. The book’s his auto biography. He and the few White and Asian kids were so abused and beaten by the blacks that his Dad sent him to the YMCA for self defense classes when he was 7 or 8.. This was in the early 1950s long before judo became a popular kids activity.

    The longest running anti bussing lawsuit in the country was filed by the Chinese of San Francisco in I believe 1966 when the unspeakably evil federal judges ordered school busing. The Chinese lost and filed again. They lost and filed again . It went on for decades.

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    I never said I lived in the inner city. I grew up in a lily white suburb. Although it was reasonably safe, I did have to deal with a lot of a-holes.
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  84. @Bragadocious
    Fred's schtick is obvious. It's to get people ginned up about the black menace so they're compliant about accepting 30 million Jose Zarates into the country.

    Can Unz fire Reed and hire Allan Wall instead? He's much better.

    “Fred’s schtick is obvious. It’s to get people ginned up about the black menace so they’re compliant about accepting 30 million Jose Zarates into the country.

    “Can Unz fire Reed and hire Allan Wall instead? He’s much better.” — Bragadcious

    I had to google Allan Wall, and looks worth another look sometime — so thanks for that.

    BTW: I don’t think that you have Fred’s ‘schtick’ exactly right. As I recall he has suggested that there are already 30 million illegal or undocumented Mexicans here, and he asks of us, or of anyone, what can seriously be done about it? Fred has doubted that the policies that brought the 30 million were sound, but still here we are today, and who has any good proposals for what is to be done?

    Thank you, Ronnie.

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    but still here we are today, and who has any good proposals for what is to be done?
     
    first things first..

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/sites/sbs.com.au.news/files/a3520646-8312-4705-b41a-d080254e212d-ap17292757424924.jpg

    here's what the SJW are saying:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/09/what-it-will-take-for-president-trump-to-deport-millions-and-build-the-wall/?utm_term=.a01f75e8d622

    http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/020/395/takeyourhatespeechoutofthiscampus.gif
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  85. woodNfish says:

    “We are doomed.”

    What do you mean, “We”, Reed? You bailed to Mexico, remember? You aren’t going to convince me your third world brown neighbors are any better than our blacks. I read the news about the murders and beheadings in Mexico.

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  86. woodNfish says:
    @Meretricious
    re the "solution" to the Negro problem: well, there is none that I know of, short of mandatory sterilization for underclass blacks. The major problem is that blacks, without whites, are helpless. They know this, so the idea that we can convince the Negroes to band together and start their own nation is a farce

    True. The only reason we are no longer seeing famine in Africa and India is because the white West has poured trillions of dollars into both shitholes.

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  87. woodNfish says:
    @Hare Krishna
    It's not IQ. It's the failure of the unionized educational system, it is illegitimacy, it is welfare. and it is the general erosion of standards.

    No, it is the normal state of being black. Africa and the ME are proof.

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  88. woodNfish says:

    Over the past few years I have had to modify my views on abortion. I am against most white abortion only. Black abortion is a positive event.

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    Wood,

    I've wondered how liberals would react if they started hearing, all the sudden, Alt-righters being FOR abortion. Since it's big business for the left and their handlers, they probably would not functionally change any of it, but on the surface, they'd have to "stand united" against the "racism" of the Alt-Right for being for it.

    What's interesting is that pro-abortion study done a few years back that everyone on the left was quoting, one of those "abortion is actually good, because it prevents more criminals from being born" arguments...one wonders if they realized the underlying truth of the stats and WHY crime would be worse if abortion were truly not just illegal, but way less available.

    If the Alt-right started being pro-abortion, even without saying why, overtly, it would put they left in a weird situation where THEY would have to articulate WHY they are against the Alt-Right being for it...accidentally admitting it's due to the high rate/proportion of black babies being aborted.

    Richard Spencer should try it.
    , @Corvinus
    "Over the past few years I have had to modify my views on abortion. I am against most white abortion only. Black abortion is a positive event."

    Then you are a hypocrite on the value of human life. Congratulations.
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  89. woodNfish says:

    Sorry Fred, but you can’t objectively look at Africa, the ME and the scourge of black immigration into white Europe and believe what you say is true. The evidence does not support your claim.

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  90. @Anonymouse
    Recently visited NYC staying in Riverside accessible by pricey Metroliner from midtown and also accessible by subway. So I took the subway. I also took the A train subway to JFK airport and to check out Broad Channel housing. Yes, the subway is where one can check out the deportment of groups of black kids and likewise groups of white underclass kids. Loud, yes, but IMHO sufficiently domesticated by NYC schools to maintain acceptable behavior standards when on the subway and posing no threat to others. Of course this is merely anecdotal but suggestive. I suggest that the takeaway from this "evidence" is that it is easy to exaggerate and stereotype black behavior. I have a public library recall for Scoreboard, Baby and look forward to the vicarious pleasure of reading about bad behavior of black university athletes.. Public behavior in America historically has been raucous and riotous. As the majority white Americans grew more civilized, American negroes enfranchised post the Civil Rights '60s are keeping up the old American wildness. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Germany came to Kentucky when 14 years old. He told me he was quite taken aback by the rough behavior of American kids compared to behavior of German kids. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Greece reported how impressed he was by the way American kids could self-organize, playing sports where the individual team members could seamless change teams and automatically correlate with their new teammates. In Greece, he said, team play would immediately collapse in unresolvable argument about the outcome of each play. When it comes to politico-ideological viewpoints, it is easy to succumb to exaggeration.

    Would you move to a neighborhood that was all Black? . . . I didn’t think so,

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    Would you move to a neighborhood that was all Black? . . . I didn’t think so,
     
    If you would choose a white trailer trash shithole over a solid middle or upper class black neighborhood you're even dumber than your posts would seem to indicate.
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  91. Vinteuil says:
    @Johnny Smoggins
    Of all the cucked things Trump has done, intervening on behalf of those basketball players to win their release was among the most egregious.

    And allowing him to do it showed that the Chinese still aren't ready to stand up to America. A real nation would have politely told him to sod off and jailed them.

    “Of all the cucked things Trump has done, intervening on behalf of those basketball players to win their release was among the most egregious.”

    No. He played that like a true shitlord. He went above & beyond the call of duty for those morlocks, and then called them out for their ingratitude, as necessary.

    It was a thing of beauty.

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    No. It is not possible to overstate Trumps balls up. The correct response would be: We expect Americans abroad to obey the laws of the country just as we demand foreigners to obey ours.
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  92. @nuyorwegian
    Fred Reed, daniel le mouche; where do you live? Reading your words is like reading Alice in Wonderland. I feel like you are certifiably insane. I am a white person who has lived in Harlem all of my adult life (40 years). You want to "ship out" my life long friends and neighbors?!? Are you out of your mind? You couldn't possibly have cultivated such absurd racist notions if you actually had regular contact, lasting friendships and family ties with real life "black" people. Ron Unz has done a great service by providing us this forum of alternative views. But many of the articles and comments exude the putrid stench of racism, white supremacy to be precise; a disease of the mind and heart. I pity you sitting behind your computer screen spouting such vile criminal absurdities as shipping black americans to Africa. Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    Manhattan, which is all Harlem is, is not reality. I’ve lived there. I’ve also been way out in Brooklyn and Queens around 3pm when school lets out, on the subway–god help anyone in that situation. But much worse than much of New York–Disneyland–are places like Philly, the whole south and west side of Chicago, DC, Baltimore, New Orleans, Cleveland and many more. I’ve spent years living around, working with, being somewhat friends with, and trying to help blacks. Many of them were warm people. This does not negate my point, that people prefer their own ethnic groups. The greatest problem as to blacks is anyone from the age of about 5 to 35–a rather large problem! This includes extremely agressive and violent females. And their whole culture is sickening to me: the shit music especially (no, not Marvin Gaye, not Louis Armstrong, but the likes of Rhianna, and the hordes of shitstick rappers).
    But to repeat: NYC is not reality, except to New Yorkers, who can’t imagine life anywhere else.

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    I know two longtime NYC residents, one a native New Yorker and one who moved from her home state of Connecticut, who increasingly can imagine living somewhere else. In fact they are dreaming about it and in one case, preparing for it. Good for them. I don't care if I never set foot in that disgusting, dirty, unfriendly, overrated, overpriced, alien place again.
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  93. Okechukwu says:
    @Jimmy the Fish
    Would you move to a neighborhood that was all Black? . . . I didn't think so,

    Would you move to a neighborhood that was all Black? . . . I didn’t think so,

    If you would choose a white trailer trash shithole over a solid middle or upper class black neighborhood you’re even dumber than your posts would seem to indicate.

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    'a solid middle or upper class black neighborhood'

    Show me one. I've literally NEVER seen one.
    , @Liberty Mike
    "white trailer trash shithole"

    Mara-Lago?

    Harvard's Kennedy School of Government?

    The SPLC's Montgomery Alabama office?
    , @ThreeCranes
    Why do clueless people assume that a white person living in a trailer is trash?

    Many elderly people living on a fixed income live in trailers because they are cheap. They own the trailer and so have an incentive to keep them neat and tidy. They are cozy homes. Better own a humble trailer and accrue equity than rent and watch money spiral down the drain.

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  94. pyrrhus says:
    @Fran Macadam
    It's the "stupid culture" more than the ethnicity. A culture with strong positive values can boost the success of individuals, while a dysfunctional one will hobble them. Teaching that negatives are positive, and to be emulated by children, is the unmitigated disaster. If it's propagated into the wider society, it takes its toll on lives there too. From all that I read, there's a critical mass of deconstructionists trying to wreak that havoc on all our descendants.

    Black culture only reflects the fact that American blacks are one standard deviation less intelligent than whites and asians, and have the poor impulse control that comes along with that fact. Admittedly, the culture was somewhat better when blacks grew up mostly in two parent families, before the Democrats invented ADC and other ways of banishing black fathers from the family.

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  95. TER says:

    Wow!! I am once again overwhelmed by Fred’s brilliance. My hat is off to him, because I assume it really IS very difficult to regurgitate dumbed down versions of observations made repeatedly by other, more gifted writers. I hope this ass clown isn’t actually being PAID for this garbage.

    Thank goodness the Mexican/Latin American hordes pouring over the border AREN’T anything like the useless blacks Fred writes about. If they were, I’m sure he would have let us know.

    Go away, Fred. You suck.

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  96. @Peter Akuleyev
    Lowe class whites in the UK and Russia are every bit as dysfunctional as American blacks, which suggests that socialist economic policies and welfare certainly don't help.

    ‘Lowe class whites in the UK and Russia are every bit as dysfunctional as American blacks, which suggests that socialist economic policies and welfare certainly don’t help.’

    Don’t know about Russia, but do the UK. I agree the white trash here of all classes, but especially the lowest classes, is abominable. (Don’t think I simply despise lower class people. I do not. But in America, where the majority don’t even know there IS a class system, poorer people are much more open to, well, everything–ideas, hope of a better world, you name it. In England people all seem to be in a rut, in good part no doubt because of the welfare state, but this same welfare system takes very much of the edge off that you see in America: people may still be fairly miserable and hopeless, but they’re nowhere near so violent.) But please stop comparing blacks and whites. The thugs who populate American cities are very often aggressive and violent, especially towards whites. As an earlier commenter from New York noted, you can’t walk down the street in many areas of big American cities without being accosted, or at least witnessing unbelievable behavior from one or more of these goons. And still there’s that big question: why the giant phoney populist movements (eg BLM), why the complete lack of media coverage of B on W crime? (Most at Unz know the answer, so the question is rhetorical.)

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  97. @RadicalCenter
    Scotty, you took the words right out of my mouth. Where are these magical cities where one can take the train, take the bus, walk to lunch or dinner, go shopping, etc., without encountering hostile and rude and often menacing Africans?

    I lived in Philly, and it is utterly absurd to say that you can avoid Africans in daily life if you work downtown, or on Drexel campus, or on Penn campus, etc. Same with Washington DC, Cleveland and Cincinnati OH, Newark or Trenton NJ, Detroit, Denver, Saint Louis, and sure as Hell here in Los Angeles.

    No matter where one lives, as soon as you go to the downtown, there they are, ready and eager to glare, to block your way on the sidewalk, intimidate, insult, sometimes assault, and generally enjoy making your life fearful and miserable.

    ‘as soon as you go to the downtown, there they are, ready and eager to glare, to block your way on the sidewalk, intimidate’

    You’ve reminded me of my Philly years, and how walking between Walnut and Market on 11th Street, you literally couldn’t do it with being played ‘Chicken’ with by some black thug, and I mean every one you encountered. White boy moves, or white boy gets a hard shoulder, followed up very likely by much worse. Or giving money to a homeless guy and him smacking it out of my hand because it wasn’t enough. Or never being able to walk a block with my black girlfriend without (and usually I wouldn’t even hold her hand in public) being verbally abused and intimidated, often by groups of older, very angry negroid men. Or…. Or…. Or….

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  98. Scotty says:
    @woodNfish
    Over the past few years I have had to modify my views on abortion. I am against most white abortion only. Black abortion is a positive event.

    Wood,

    I’ve wondered how liberals would react if they started hearing, all the sudden, Alt-righters being FOR abortion. Since it’s big business for the left and their handlers, they probably would not functionally change any of it, but on the surface, they’d have to “stand united” against the “racism” of the Alt-Right for being for it.

    What’s interesting is that pro-abortion study done a few years back that everyone on the left was quoting, one of those “abortion is actually good, because it prevents more criminals from being born” arguments…one wonders if they realized the underlying truth of the stats and WHY crime would be worse if abortion were truly not just illegal, but way less available.

    If the Alt-right started being pro-abortion, even without saying why, overtly, it would put they left in a weird situation where THEY would have to articulate WHY they are against the Alt-Right being for it…accidentally admitting it’s due to the high rate/proportion of black babies being aborted.

    Richard Spencer should try it.

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  99. Fred forgot to mention that Chicago has a much higher proportion of Latin American / Chicanos / Hispanics than Ballmer. LA county has 622 murders in the last twelve months … many Latinos count among those dead.

    Could it be that the poor black folk just aren’t as good at murder as their Latino / Hispanic / Chicano peers?

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    Do you have any evidence to support the implication that Latinos have, as a matter of fact, committed

    (a) the majority of Chicago's murders this year?

    (b) last year?

    (c) the year before?

    (d) more of Chicago's murders than blacks this year?

    (e) last year?

    (f) the year before?

    (g) Chicago's murders in a percentage greater than their percentage of the total population this year?

    (h) last year?

    (i) the year before?
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  100. Fred is obviously terrified of being called “antisemitic.”

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  101. anyone who argues that black criminality is the same as Hispanic or white criminality is insane. Go to Colin Flaherty’s YouTube channel. Blacks are a distinct subspecies

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    anyone who argues that black criminality is the same as Hispanic or white criminality is insane. Go to Colin Flaherty’s YouTube channel. Blacks are a distinct subspecies
     
    Yet the Hispanics in Mexico are cutting off more heads than ISIS.

    Yet MS-13 is the most brutal street gang ever seen in America.

    White criminality? Much more pervasive and destructive to society. Example, the white Wall Street crooks that nearly destroyed this country back in 2008. They certainly destroyed tens of millions of lives.

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  102. Corvinus says:
    @daniel le mouche
    They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus 'big happy family'--no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this 'ideal' (i.e. black man + white woman).
    But to more immediate matters at hand, a rational and just society (the diametrical opposite to ours, it goes without saying) would lock up these animals. Those who show they can be civilized--till they no longer can, that is (OJ, so many others)--can continue to reap what used to be the endless benefits of such a wealthy society.
    Never mind. The simple reality (again, shown by so much horrific life experience) is that they will always hate whitey, and in the most violent, aggressive manner. And thoughtful, honest whites will remember their own heritage, not fall for Jew propaganda of multicultural utopia, and realize in great numbers, again--not long ago, most did--that they don't want to be around these fuckers anyway, no matter what. We have every right (if only we didn't behave like pussies) to live in European societies, sans darkie hordes, especially of the Afro American variety.

    “And thoughtful, honest whites will remember their own heritage…”

    White people do remember their own heritage, as well as the heritages of their non-white neighbors. Just because they engage in this conduct does not mean they are thoughtless and dishonest.

    “not fall for Jew propaganda of multicultural utopia…”

    It’s not Jew propaganda. Rather, it is people who prefer to live and interact among different groups.

    “and realize in great numbers, again–not long ago, most did–that they don’t want to be around these fuckers anyway, no matter what”

    SOME white people, like yourself, feel that way. But white normies will make their own racial decisions.

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  103. Corvinus says:
    @Realist
    "They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus ‘big happy family’–no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this ‘ideal’ (i.e. black man + white woman)."

    Yes, the miscegenation promoted by the media and big corporations is amazing. The good point is that only stupid whites would be persuades by these ads. Do Israeli ads show Jewish women with blacks....I think not.

    “Yes, the miscegenation promoted by the media and big corporations is amazing.”

    So what? Feel free to not mix with other races. But realize that there is nothing inherently immoral with the mixing of the races.

    “The good point is that only stupid whites would be persuades by these ads.”

    Right, tens of millions of white people who have high IQ are somehow “stupid” because they believe in treating people with dignity and respect, and also believe that freedom of association means that white people may interact, date, and mate with non-white people.

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    Oh, so you believe in freedom of association? Good on you. So you must support the freedom of whites to associate with those they wish to, even if it's limited to others of their race. Please start speaking out against forced integration.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Big difference, genetically and culturally, between mating with Africans and mating with other nonwhite people (such as my Asian wife).

    So the partially correct argument "smart, sensible white people can reasonably choose to mate with nonwhites" is far too broad as stated, and doesn't excuse the foolish, socially destructive decision to create part-African offspring.
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  104. Okechukwu says:
    @Meretricious
    anyone who argues that black criminality is the same as Hispanic or white criminality is insane. Go to Colin Flaherty's YouTube channel. Blacks are a distinct subspecies

    anyone who argues that black criminality is the same as Hispanic or white criminality is insane. Go to Colin Flaherty’s YouTube channel. Blacks are a distinct subspecies

    Yet the Hispanics in Mexico are cutting off more heads than ISIS.

    Yet MS-13 is the most brutal street gang ever seen in America.

    White criminality? Much more pervasive and destructive to society. Example, the white Wall Street crooks that nearly destroyed this country back in 2008. They certainly destroyed tens of millions of lives.

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    bad comparison: MS-13, like the American mafia, is business violence
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  105. Corvinus says:
    @Scotty
    Gene Su, you either are joking or are naive. If you have EVER lived in any major metro area in the United States you will ALWAYS have interactions with the so-called, as you describe it, "black underclass". Try any subway line in the United States. Both blacks and whites live in fear of black teens and blacks in general that roam, often with mental disorders, throughout large swaths of urban areas, looking for easy targets. Normies of EVERY RACE, but particular Whites and Asians, are VERY aware of how frequent they are or will have to interact with blacks, when considering job opportunities and/or living accommodations. And I will go you one further, this isn't reserved to whatever "underclass" you speak of. Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those "visiting cousins" in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home.

    “Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those “visiting cousins” in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home.”

    I’m sure you have statistics at the ready demonstrating clearly how these middle class blacks are very dangerous, right?

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    Obama, Holder et al. are very dangerous: they are the intellectual leaders of the underclass
    , @KenH
    You missed the point. Regression to the mean implies that children of parents with above average or exceptional intelligence will generally lie closer to the mean of the IQ distribution among that particular group.

    The mean IQ for blacks is 85 while the mean IQ for whites is 100 and that's a big difference. So just because a middle class black couple has an IQ of 110 doesn't necessarily mean their offspring will inherit the same intellectual capacity. It could be the group mean or somewhere in between 85 and 110.
    , @Alden
    What Scotty says is true. In every city and county jail there are affirmative action black clerks medics and guards. At The beginning of every shift the affirmative employees blacks discover that their dads, siblings, uncles cousins baby daddies and other relatives were just booked in.

    By about my 20th year as a Probation officer, the late 1980s I began to notice that the mothers of many of the under 25 black criminals were very well paid affirmative action government employees.

    Here is a home buying hint. Never buy in a rural town that has a state prison. Prison work is an affirmative action black and brown monopoly It's no Whites need apply. If you live in a town where a prison is planned MOVE

    The well paid prison black employees thug spawn will ruin the school system with their noise, violence, and thuggery. The black kids will prey on everyone. The Hispanic prison employees will behave like Whites, normally.

    I only post what I know
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  106. Corvinus says:
    @Dr. X

    Accustomed to such numbers by long exposure, we forget that scholastic catastrophe of this magnitude would be unthinkable in any other civilized society.

     

    "Civilized societies," by definition, do not have blacks.

    So we do nothing while things worsen and the world looks on astounded.
     
    To the contrary, the world is copying our problem by importing Negroes and Muslims. Italy, Germany, Sweden, France, and the UK are willingly creating racial nightmares of their own.

    “Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.”

    So what definition are you employing here? In other words, is it YOUR definition or one that is from a source? Please specify.

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    Name one independently successful black-majority city or country. The former British colonies of Africa were able to import European-based technology to increase the life spans of those populations. Would those improvements in living conditions have taken place independently if the British had never arrived? No way.
    , @Carroll Price
    “Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.”

    The statement is so obviously true, until it needs no explanation.
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  107. @Okechukwu

    Would you move to a neighborhood that was all Black? . . . I didn’t think so,
     
    If you would choose a white trailer trash shithole over a solid middle or upper class black neighborhood you're even dumber than your posts would seem to indicate.

    ‘a solid middle or upper class black neighborhood’

    Show me one. I’ve literally NEVER seen one.

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    Show me one. I’ve literally NEVER seen one.
     
    You don't want to. You're not interested in reality. All that matters is your agenda.
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  108. @Okechukwu

    Would you move to a neighborhood that was all Black? . . . I didn’t think so,
     
    If you would choose a white trailer trash shithole over a solid middle or upper class black neighborhood you're even dumber than your posts would seem to indicate.

    “white trailer trash shithole”

    Mara-Lago?

    Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government?

    The SPLC’s Montgomery Alabama office?

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  109. Corvinus says:
    @eah
    Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    Do you have any clear notion of what life will be like for Whites in a majority non-white America?

    “Do you have any clear notion of what life will be like for Whites in a majority non-white America?”

    We can speculate. That is, you do not have a clear notion, but just a guess. But if I had to hazard one, Generation Z is the bell weather here, as it reflects a demographic shift, one who generally exhibits positive feelings about ethnic diversity in America and is more likely than older generations to have social circles that include different ethnic groups, races, and religions.

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    "LOL"

    https://s26.postimg.org/rzqwuhz6h/gee_dad_thanks.jpg
    , @Father O'Hara
    Yes I see that in advertising. All these good-looking young whites having fun and theres always one sweater clad Negro. The proverbial black friend.
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  110. Corvinus says:
    @woodNfish
    Over the past few years I have had to modify my views on abortion. I am against most white abortion only. Black abortion is a positive event.

    “Over the past few years I have had to modify my views on abortion. I am against most white abortion only. Black abortion is a positive event.”

    Then you are a hypocrite on the value of human life. Congratulations.

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    Then you are a hypocrite on the value of human life. Congratulations.
     
    There's nothing "hypocritical" about stating forthrightly that you value white lives more highly than black lives.

    I think the word you were looking for is "inconsistent."

    Well, so what? I guess I can say I consistently favor white lives over black lives. You will have a hard time morally shaming me over this, I can assure you.
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  111. @The Alarmist
    Fred forgot to mention that Chicago has a much higher proportion of Latin American / Chicanos / Hispanics than Ballmer. LA county has 622 murders in the last twelve months ... many Latinos count among those dead.

    Could it be that the poor black folk just aren't as good at murder as their Latino / Hispanic / Chicano peers?

    Do you have any evidence to support the implication that Latinos have, as a matter of fact, committed

    (a) the majority of Chicago’s murders this year?

    (b) last year?

    (c) the year before?

    (d) more of Chicago’s murders than blacks this year?

    (e) last year?

    (f) the year before?

    (g) Chicago’s murders in a percentage greater than their percentage of the total population this year?

    (h) last year?

    (i) the year before?

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    I didn't claim they committed more murder, merely that they were present at two places that had significantly more murders.
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  112. Corvinus says:
    @Malla

    slavery was an elite british thing
     
    More like Jewish

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yWCzTQemI4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7VkQSb7JlI

    And it possible that labour was not the only reason to get them to the Americas. There were some long term intentions and they are playing out infront of the eyes of the world as described by Fred.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6zSPGpR4wo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kjDo-5NRX8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ow5wVv2FNs

    “More like Jewish…”

    According to Bertram W. Korn’s research (Jews and Negro Slavery in the Old South, 1789-1865), census records and slave purchasing documents show that southern Jews “who owned slaves were concentrated in cities, not in the plantation districts containing ninety percent of the enslaved population. For example, there were only four Jews – less than one-tenth of one percent – among the 11,000 Southerners who in 1830 owned fifty or more slaves.”

    According to David Brion Davis, Professor of History Emeritus at Yale University, he writes “To keep matters in perspective, we should note that in the American South, in 1830, there were only 120 Jews among the 45,000 slaveholders owning twenty or more slaves and only twenty Jews among the 12,000 slaveholders owning fifty or more slaves. Even if each member of this Jewish slaveholding elite had owned 714 slaves—a ridiculously high figure in the American South—the total number would only equal the 100,000 slaves owned by black and colored planters in St. Domingue in 1789, on the eve of the Haitian Revolution…Of course, some Jews were involved in the slave trade. Every European Western nation was. There were also some regions in which the slave trade was more accessible to Jews—Rhode Island, Newport, Holland, to name a few striking examples. The Dutch Jews weren’t persecuted, so there were quite a few who were involved.”

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    I invite you to read the book

    https://www.amazon.in/Secret-Relationship-Between-Blacks-Jews/dp/0963687700

    It will prove beyond doubt about the massive Jewish influence on the slave trade. It was basically a Jewish thing.

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  113. It is semi-illiteracy by choice. We are doomed.

    No Fred, WE are not doomed. THEY are doomed – by choice.

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  114. KenH says:
    @Hare Krishna
    Of course they hide how dysfunctional American whites are becoming, because if you haven't figured it out already HBD and "race realism" are just about building whites up and denigrating every other group. It's the white nerd's equivalent of "we were kings and queens in Africa" The prohlem does lie essentially in the schools. More discipline in the schools - something the Obama admijnistration virtually eliminated - would solve a lot of problems.

    The problem does lie essentially in the schools. More discipline in the schools – something the Obama admijnistration virtually eliminated – would solve a lot of problems.

    Oh boy do you have rose colored glasses. If you impose discipline in the schools and make blacks meet the same standards as whites that is racist and blacks will raise hell like always. So whites move away and build new schools until the blacks follow them and the process starts over again. Besides, there is intense peer pressure in the black community to be a gangsta and thug. Acting respectable is selling out to whitey. Most black men have no fathers and that’s not going to change.

    You act like pre-Obama murica had few racial problems and that black violence, dysfunction and indiscipline only resulted from eight years of his presidency.

    Separation is the only answer.

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    Standards of disc ipline in the schools have been on the decline since the early 1970s but Obama 's administration was responsible for "disparate impact"

    If we dumped "disparate impact", stopped giving into the demands of race hustlers, got rid of affirmative action, returned to color-blind standards, and punished illegitimacy, that would help solve the problem.

    The minute we stop rewarding deviant black underclass behavior and demands we will get less deviant black underclass behavior.
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  115. Wally says:
    @Truth

    However, there are violent whites, but the numbers are minute when compared to blacks & browns.
     
    Yeah, but apparently they didn't BUSS this gentleman in the side of his head. The whiteboyz did.

    Say what, Negro?

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  116. Wally says:
    @Hare Krishna
    Of course they hide how dysfunctional American whites are becoming, because if you haven't figured it out already HBD and "race realism" are just about building whites up and denigrating every other group. It's the white nerd's equivalent of "we were kings and queens in Africa" The prohlem does lie essentially in the schools. More discipline in the schools - something the Obama admijnistration virtually eliminated - would solve a lot of problems.

    They do?

    Who is “they”?

    Compared to blacks? Not even close.

    Again, read Color of Crime.

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  117. Wally says:
    @Liberty Mike
    nuyorwegian -

    Why are black men about 12 times more likely to perpetrate inter-racial acts of violence than white men?

    Why do so many millions of Negroes fail to pass basic English proficiency exams?

    Why are cities, counties, and countries governed by black majorities almost always a disaster?

    Why are black people far more likely than any other racial group to engage in anti-social behavior?

    Why are blacks far more likely to be born out-of-wedlock than any other racial group?

    Why?

    Instead of addressing these facts, you, like too many, lash out with puerile canards and empty asseverations of "racism" and "white supremacy".

    That dog won't hunt.

    and:
    Gays, Blacks, cause of the massive increase in STDs says CDC

    http://newobserveronline.com/homos-hetro-blacks-cause-std-disaster-says-cdc/

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  118. Okechukwu says:
    @daniel le mouche
    'a solid middle or upper class black neighborhood'

    Show me one. I've literally NEVER seen one.

    Show me one. I’ve literally NEVER seen one.

    You don’t want to. You’re not interested in reality. All that matters is your agenda.

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    I'd sincerely like to know. Are there examples of predominantly black middle-class areas that boast average or better statistics on crime, education, voter turnout, or any of the other measures of success and stability?

    These communities should be more well and widely known. We should have them immediately available as examples for discussion, and as models to transform struggling areas - of which just about anybody can immediately name half a dozen or more. Among other things, how can we accuse the media of a liberal bias if everybody hears about the ghettos but nobody ever reports on the successful communities? You'd think they'd be overrepresented, if anything.

    Certainly, hardcore doubters can always use the "exception proves the rule" excuse, but even so I would welcome a handy list of specific exemplary communities that prove the potential of the black underclass to transcend historical challenges. It's hard to believe that the ones that exist aren't better known; I'd assume that they'd consistently be used as a rebuttal to racist arguments.
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  119. @Okechukwu

    anyone who argues that black criminality is the same as Hispanic or white criminality is insane. Go to Colin Flaherty’s YouTube channel. Blacks are a distinct subspecies
     
    Yet the Hispanics in Mexico are cutting off more heads than ISIS.

    Yet MS-13 is the most brutal street gang ever seen in America.

    White criminality? Much more pervasive and destructive to society. Example, the white Wall Street crooks that nearly destroyed this country back in 2008. They certainly destroyed tens of millions of lives.

    bad comparison: MS-13, like the American mafia, is business violence

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    bad comparison: MS-13, like the American mafia, is business violence
     
    All street crime is business violence.

    But what difference does couching it in terms of "business" make? The victim isn't any less dead because it's business. Society isn't any less harmed because it's business. That's literally stupid.

    , @Truth
    They're all business, Old Sport, they have a negotiation with you, and want to leave the negotiation with more money than they entered.
    , @Sin City Milla
    Maybe more than business violence. Mexican papers have an obsession with blood. Given the nature of the ancient religion, I've often wondered how deep the ancient values still run. Ritualistic murder in Mexico is well documented n tattooing was part of their religion. Maybe MS13 is a resurfacing of ancient practices.

    Since first cousin marriage has persisted for thousands of years in the mid east, I'm not as quick as some others to assume that ethnic groups can change their stripes like clothes.
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  120. @Corvinus
    "Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those “visiting cousins” in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home."

    I'm sure you have statistics at the ready demonstrating clearly how these middle class blacks are very dangerous, right?

    Obama, Holder et al. are very dangerous: they are the intellectual leaders of the underclass

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    "Obama, Holder et al. are very dangerous: they are the intellectual leaders of the underclass."

    Using your own metric, one could say Steve Sailer, Heartiste, Brett Stevens, and John Derbyshire are also "very dangerous", as they are the intellectual leaders of the (white) underclass by peddling sophistry like race realism and the social-sexual hierarchy.
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  121. @Corvinus
    "Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks."

    So what definition are you employing here? In other words, is it YOUR definition or one that is from a source? Please specify.

    Name one independently successful black-majority city or country. The former British colonies of Africa were able to import European-based technology to increase the life spans of those populations. Would those improvements in living conditions have taken place independently if the British had never arrived? No way.

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    "There is no nonblack nation, even among the most liberal ones, where the black man is dignified. History dealt us an unforgiving blow in the incursion of foreigners into black lands. The Arabs enslaved tribes and nations and then colonized and evangelized them. Then came the Europeans, who, persuaded the Africans were of an inferior race, divided up the continent over lunch in Berlin in 1884. They carted off a large population of its people — sometimes leaving entire villages almost empty — and brought those who remained on the continent under their rule. So complete was the transformation that no black nation retained its ancestral nationhood, national language, or national identity. And today we often hear of how China or India or some other nation is “taking over” Africa economically. There is almost no nation whose majority is of a different race that has not spat on the face of the black person, at one time or the other."

    Chigozie Obioma

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.

    Now, if you want to actually want to engage in debate, offer the metrics as to what constitutes "successful".
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  122. @gustafus
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Ts4oLSKoQ

    Great Sermon by a Black Preacher -- BLACKS HAVE A PROBLEM - and it ain't White.

    That said - Fred talks about blacks unable to suppress harmful urges or understand even horizons.

    In plain English -

    Those with an IQ below 90 cannot participate in self governing Democracy. Deficiencies include, but are not confined to -

    ------Inability to stifle harmful urges [ theft, crime, self destructive behavior]

    ------Cannot defer gratification [ entitled Black Athlete steals on impulse]

    ------Cannot resolve conflict without violence [ crime stats in every black city]

    ------Don't comprehend the concept of "event horizons" or "intermediate vs final ends, goals"

    So Far - Fred is on the money because the mean IQ of blacks is 80 - 85.

    What he fails to address is his BELOVED MEXICO and parts south - are inhabited by 600 million peasants with a mean IQ of 85.

    Mexico is corrupt to it's core - racist to its core - and the stratification between dark, Indian low IQ Mexicans and the more educated but equally debased ruling white class... is, well, IQ.

    The Mexico of Fred's affection is the elitist enclave where he lives among the lighter, brighter, who we see on LATIN TV, the weather channel, and in beauty contests.

    Latin America has all the same problems as we do with race - and does NOTHING to advance the interests of those on the bottom rung -- they ship em HERE.

    It's hard to respect Fred's insight when the log in his eye came out of his bedroom.

    gustafus,

    I do not agree with your criticism of Fred Reed; however, I do agree with many of the ideas of Dr. Manning. I’ve watched/listened to his sermons before and he is very impressive. I believe he is a true Christian and a brave man.

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  123. @Achmed E. Newman
    AGREED

    Fred's schtick is also to throw this kind of truth out there at least 4 or 5 times a year in order to keep most of his readers, who are otherwise sick of his continual promotion of his new-found Mexicanity. What I don't like is that, anytime other writers, VDare people for example, or the few decent politicians, come up with ideas for solutions to America's manifold racial problems, Mr. Reed makes a point to criticize them. Fred Reed loves to complain, but will not offer any solutions and hates those who do.

    Mr. Allan Wall would indeed be a great substitute, Mr. Bragadocious. He writes without any animosity toward anyone, has his experience of living in Mexico with his family with more of an open mind than Fred, and not as just an ex-patriate whiner. His column on VDare, which was "Memo from Mexico", and is now "Memo from Middle America", is always an interesting read with both the Mexican and American perspective.

    How bout it, Ron Unz? It sure beats hell out of the Commie losers that have been featured all around your site lately?

    Mr. Reed makes a point to criticize them. Fred Reed loves to complain, but will not offer any solutions and hates those who do.

    Wrong. If you re-read Fred’s article, toward the end you will find that he hints at returning to the only solution that has ever worked, which is segregation of blacks from non-blacks.

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    You write that Mr. Reed "hinted" at a solution in this post, but I have read many Fred Reed articles (here on unz.com and previously on FredOnEverything). I am looking at the big picture of this guy's writings, not just this one article, Mr. Price.

    Mr. Reed bad-mouths people like Jared Taylor, who, always in a good-natured way, tries to discuss solutions for the racial problems on Amren. On the whole Hispanic invasion, Mr. Reed indeed just punts, and says "oh, there's nothing we can do now." Bull. He also bad-mouths the VDare writers whose site has been writing about the illegal and legal immigration problem for more than 15 years. Reed criticizes anyone who comes up with concrete ideas.

    It's easy being a curmdeon, but some people have to take care of the problems, and not sit on their asses in their bug-out location having siestas and living off the reputation of the US dollar.

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  124. Okechukwu says:
    @Meretricious
    bad comparison: MS-13, like the American mafia, is business violence

    bad comparison: MS-13, like the American mafia, is business violence

    All street crime is business violence.

    But what difference does couching it in terms of “business” make? The victim isn’t any less dead because it’s business. Society isn’t any less harmed because it’s business. That’s literally stupid.

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    please visit Colin Flaherty's YouTube videos. This is too silly to discuss
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  125. @Anonymous
    I agree with this.

    Black people have always had high crime rates, high teenage pregnancy, and low academic success rates. What white HBD types never acknowledge is whites backsliding and copying ghetto black culture and being guilty of the very things that blacks do in ever increasing numbers.

    Whites are devolving into a small higher caste group of whites with high iq and a much larger lower caste group of whites with low iq that has the same issues blacks deal with.

    Also, as much as violent crime is a problem the main issue with America is not black violence. It is white collar crime that is almost exclusively the domain of white people.

    Add up all of the crimes of blacks, and it does not come close to the cost of white collar crime from white people.

    Add up all of the crimes of blacks, and it does not come close to the cost of white collar crime from white people.

    I would like to see even the laziest effort to quantitatively back this up. Let me break out pen and napkin to get some inkling of how off the mark it is. Take, for example, the real estate losses in Detroit, as just one isolated example. In 1950, the population of the city was 1.8 million. At an average person per household of 3 (anyone know if is this close?), adjusted upwards a little from today’s number of 2.58, that would be about 600,000 homes. At that time, Detroit was considered one of the most important and sought-after cities in the United States. So I could probably reasonably go on the very high end when estimating what those houses might be worth today if the racial order had been maintained. But I’ll be conservative, since it will just lead to an endless counterfactual debate about the auto industry etc.

    Today, at a rate of 2.58 people per household, it means that there are approximately 260,773 residential units in the city. That means 339,000 homes simply disappeared. Between Devil’s Night and slum clearance, it’s no mystery where they all went, especially to anyone who’s ever toured the rubble.

    I’ll avoid factoring in distracting yet substantive things like the widespread partitioning of the remaining homes into rental properties, which may mean the 260,773 number above is massively overstated, nor will I attempt to address commercial real estate, which, at least at first glance, is probably in considerably worse condition than its residential counterpart across most of the city. Let’s just bear in mind that this is likely to be an absolute lower-bound estimate.

    The median home price in Detroit, according to Zillow is $45,000.

    The median home price in mostly white Traverse City, Michigan, a city with similar housing stock from a similar period in a similar location, is $224,000. If we assume the difference between the two prices is equal to the single-home “black dysfunction premium”, then the total black dysfunction premium incurred by Detroit residential real estate owners since 1950 $46,678,367,000. On top of that, there has been an outright 339,000*$224,000 = $75,936,000,000 loss on the housing units that have simply disappeared. The total residential real estate loss in Detroit, due almost entirely to the unoppressed unconstrained presence of blacks, is about $123 billion dollars.

    This number is likely to be a severe underestimate, as evidenced by the fact that, at the point of its peak population in 1950, Detroit was considered one of the three top cities in America. A more appropriate baseline non-Africanized housing price for comparative purposes might be San Francisco or New York. Instead, Traverse City, a nice but not overly industrious Midwestern town, was used. Nor have we even attempted to look at the probably much worse asset history of commercial real estate in the city.

    This is but one tiny stroke in the Jackson Pollack portrait of American racial strife, all attributable to black crime. And the described losses affected real people and families deeply. It wasn’t a gentlemanly game of multi-billionaire Jew rips off just-billionaire Jew, as played out in so many white collar crimes.

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    The median home price in mostly white Traverse City, Michigan, a city with similar housing stock from a similar period in a similar location, is $224,000. If we assume the difference between the two prices is equal to the single-home “black dysfunction premium”, then the total black dysfunction premium incurred by Detroit residential real estate owners since 1950 $46,678,367,000.
     
    Detroit used to be the world centre of car manufacturing. When this collapsed, so did Detroit along with jobs and tax revenues. It wasn't "black dysfunction" that caused the collapse, it was the chronic inability of the US to retain and develop its industrial base (unlike Germany and Japan) along with the most stupid mass outsourcing to Asia.

    Ref. Andy Grove (ex CEO of Intel) article in Bloomberg, “How American Can Create Jobs” http://www.openvms.org/http%3A//www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2010-07-01/andy-grove-how-america-can-create-jobs
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  126. Rurik says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    "Fred’s schtick is obvious. It’s to get people ginned up about the black menace so they’re compliant about accepting 30 million Jose Zarates into the country.

    "Can Unz fire Reed and hire Allan Wall instead? He’s much better." -- Bragadcious
     
    I had to google Allan Wall, and looks worth another look sometime -- so thanks for that.

    BTW: I don't think that you have Fred's 'schtick' exactly right. As I recall he has suggested that there are already 30 million illegal or undocumented Mexicans here, and he asks of us, or of anyone, what can seriously be done about it? Fred has doubted that the policies that brought the 30 million were sound, but still here we are today, and who has any good proposals for what is to be done?

    Thank you, Ronnie.

    but still here we are today, and who has any good proposals for what is to be done?

    first things first..

    here’s what the SJW are saying:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/09/what-it-will-take-for-president-trump-to-deport-millions-and-build-the-wall/?utm_term=.a01f75e8d622

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    Hi, Rurik!

    Cute work with images! Thanks, for your comment and also the link to WaPo article.

    WaPo was saying that Trump's Wall would have propaganda value but would do nothing about the incoming masses.

    Exactly, and that's why what I think makes sense is derb's proposal, that starts with bringing allowable legal immigration down to absolute zero. My own suggestion would be to use RICO statutes to seize places like the kosher meat packing plant (and crank lab) in Iowa, in about 2004, remember? ... seize all the assets that can be located and send the people back to Honduras or Israel, as the cases may be.

    ... but we both know anything that makes sense has no chance in this gotterdammerung
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  127. MarkinLA says:
    @JessicaR
    I have read both the article and the responses with mixed reactions. The racial snapshot focuses on the negative. My mother, my grandfather, my great aunt and I have all been mugged and all the assailants were black. While an open discussion of this reality is very important, there are other realities as well: the high percentage of African-Americans in the health care fields who have given me competent and compassionate care, the African-American churches who are doing yeoman's work in trying to improve conditions within the community, and the number of African-Americans serving in America's (stupid and criminal!) wars and coming home to be treated as potential thugs and criminals. When I first moved to Mississippi, I talked with a black veteran of the Afghanistan war who objected to the term "African-American" because he felt that after serving his country, he deserved to just be an American and not a separate kind of American.

    I also find that when I am out in public and need some kind of help--lifting something heavy, needing a break in traffic--very often the person helping me is black (or African-American--take your pick.) I have African-American neighbors I much prefer to some of the drug-addicted whites I have lived next to in my life.

    Whenever I hear discussions of racial or ethnic politics, I am reminded of the courtroom oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Fred Reed has told the truth but has not told the whole truth.

    Gene Su, you make an excellent point about not judging an entire people by its worst elements.

    I talked with a black veteran of the Afghanistan war who objected to the term “African-American” because he felt that after serving his country, he deserved to just be an American and not a separate kind of American.

    I am not the one demanding that blacks be called African-American, they are the ones demanding it.

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  128. MarkinLA says:
    @fnn
    What looks to be a mainstream investment newsletter dares to state the obvious:
    https://gefira.org/en/2017/12/05/in-300-years-there-are-only-300-japanese-left/

    Japan’s plight is shared by all developed countries in Asia and Europe. The world likes to portrait Japan as a case on its own, and economists and politicians prefer to ignore demographic reality. Europe is trying to solve the problem by importing Third World people. It is a weird reversed colonization experiment. What an irony! The French elites were not able to rule over the Algerians in Algiers, now they are trying to manage the Algerian population in Paris. There is no reason to believe the outcome will be much different.
     

    Your post is sarcasm right? You are making fun of anybody who would write such a stupid article aren’t you? If the Japanese need Japanese babies, they can create policies that will produce all they need.

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  129. @Anonymous
    I agree with this.

    Black people have always had high crime rates, high teenage pregnancy, and low academic success rates. What white HBD types never acknowledge is whites backsliding and copying ghetto black culture and being guilty of the very things that blacks do in ever increasing numbers.

    Whites are devolving into a small higher caste group of whites with high iq and a much larger lower caste group of whites with low iq that has the same issues blacks deal with.

    Also, as much as violent crime is a problem the main issue with America is not black violence. It is white collar crime that is almost exclusively the domain of white people.

    Add up all of the crimes of blacks, and it does not come close to the cost of white collar crime from white people.

    It is white collar crime that is almost exclusively the domain of white people.

    I totally disagree. Considering the low number of blacks in white collar jobs, a very large percentage of that number are eventually caught with their hands in the cookie jar. In fact, it occurs on such a regular basis until it’s practically expected.

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  130. @Truth

    I have lived in NYC for 60 years I... in short I pass i can use the word nigger in front of niggers and not an eye brow is raised thats how well i pass.
     
    LMFAO!

    A 60-year old white man who can walk up to some cats he doesn't know, N-Bomb to his heart's content and nobody notices?

    Damn WhiteFolks, I heard you died!?!?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl4P4wIYvm4

    A lot of white hos is, uh, more marketable

    Pimpin ain’t PC.

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    Hey! I'm glad you watched WhiteFolks! That was a free Game seminar for you, now Bro, please hit happy hour tomorrow after work and use what you've learned.

    Put them Hoez on PimpArrest.
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  131. KenH says:

    This nation has bankrupted itself and destroyed countless white neighborhoods, schools, businesses and lives in a vain effort to placate ungrateful and unworthy blacks and achieve interracial amity. It’s been an abject failure. As mother used to say you can’t fool mother nature and America hasn’t.

    The dirty little black on white race war that Paul Sheehan wrote about in 1995 and which commenced in earnest in 1965 with forcible integration shows no signs of abating. Racial separation is the only sensible solution and that’s unlikely as long as Jews wield the awesome power that they do. And things could get worse since Communist party USA (formerly the Democrats) are readying a lineup of fire breathing black and Latino bigots and self hating whites as 2020 presidential candidates.

    Fredrico has always hits grand slams when writing about the negro plague in America. He tends to write his best when he doesn’t have a dog in the fight (lives in may-hee-co and dates or is married to a Latina). But if he ever starts dating a black woman he’ll probably be whistling a different tune and tell us how great blacks really are and if whites were a little less racist and gas station loutish that race relations would be much better.

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  132. @Corvinus
    "Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks."

    So what definition are you employing here? In other words, is it YOUR definition or one that is from a source? Please specify.

    “Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.”

    The statement is so obviously true, until it needs no explanation.

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    "The statement is so obviously true, until it needs no explanation."

    Apparently you lack the intellectual horsepower to offer an explanation as to the meaning of "Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.”

    It's OK to be white, but not white and stupid.
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  133. Item in today’s sport page: West Point football coach having hard time recruiting football players. He interviewed several high school prospects and they admitted they had not heard of West Point. Can you imagine having a “student-athlete” playing for you who is so damn dumb he never heard of West Point? How in the world could he pass the entrance exams or hope to maintain passing grades in math courses. Is it just possible these potential military officers stay on at West Point, passing grades not withstanding , in order that this institution of higher learning can field a viable football team? The article did not mention the race of the high school prospects, but it would seem Blacks are the only ones capable of playing high level football if the teams we see in the NFL or major colleges are representative.

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    If you remember that story about the hoax at the Air Force Academy, it talked about the incident happening at some kind of preparatory school associated with the AFA. I imagine all the military academies have them in order to meet their AA and football and basketball team requirements.

    You allow some totally unprepared kid a chance to enter the academy by taking remedial courses at these preparatory schools until you can pretend they are ready for the real academy. My guess is that these are kids who can't even get a scholarship at a division 2 NCAA school.
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  134. Truth says:
    @Meretricious
    bad comparison: MS-13, like the American mafia, is business violence

    They’re all business, Old Sport, they have a negotiation with you, and want to leave the negotiation with more money than they entered.

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  135. Truth says:
    @Negrolphin Pool

    A lot of white hos is, uh, more marketable
     
    Pimpin ain't PC.

    Hey! I’m glad you watched WhiteFolks! That was a free Game seminar for you, now Bro, please hit happy hour tomorrow after work and use what you’ve learned.

    Put them Hoez on PimpArrest.

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    I need a flo-facing ho who mashin for the rations.
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  136. eah says:
    @Corvinus
    "Do you have any clear notion of what life will be like for Whites in a majority non-white America?"

    We can speculate. That is, you do not have a clear notion, but just a guess. But if I had to hazard one, Generation Z is the bell weather here, as it reflects a demographic shift, one who generally exhibits positive feelings about ethnic diversity in America and is more likely than older generations to have social circles that include different ethnic groups, races, and religions.

    “LOL”

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  137. KenH says:
    @Corvinus
    "Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those “visiting cousins” in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home."

    I'm sure you have statistics at the ready demonstrating clearly how these middle class blacks are very dangerous, right?

    You missed the point. Regression to the mean implies that children of parents with above average or exceptional intelligence will generally lie closer to the mean of the IQ distribution among that particular group.

    The mean IQ for blacks is 85 while the mean IQ for whites is 100 and that’s a big difference. So just because a middle class black couple has an IQ of 110 doesn’t necessarily mean their offspring will inherit the same intellectual capacity. It could be the group mean or somewhere in between 85 and 110.

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  138. danand says:

    From Wiki – “Studies have found differences in the frequency distribution of variants of the MAOA (AKA warrior) gene between ethnic groups: of the participants, 59% of Black men, 54% of Chinese men, 56% of Maori men, and 34% of Caucasian men carried the 3R allele, while 5.5% of Black men, 0.1% of Caucasian men, and 0.00067% of Asian men carried the 2R allele.”

    Any real hope of a true remedy lies within genetic engineering. Retain the color, remove the violent impulse, and boost the intellect. Win, win, winning – happy rap for all.

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    The results of any study regarding the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene should be interpreted with caution in light of a number of limitations that need to be addressed in replication studies.

    First, the measures of psychopathic personality traits, ever arrested, and ever incarcerated were based on self reports, not official data. Although self-reports have been shown to be reliable and valid instruments for assessing antisocial phenotypes (Krueger et al., 1994; Sutton, 2010), it is possible that official crime data would have produced differing results.

    Second, the measures of criminal justice outcomes did not delineate between different types of offenders, such as violent predatory offenders versus non-violent property offenders. Perhaps the 2-repeat allele would have varying effects on different subcategories of offenders.

    Third, the sample analyzed in the current study is the same as the one analyzed in Guo et al.’s (2008) study. While some studies examined different outcome measures and focused only on African-American males, it is important that future studies estimate the association between the 2-repeat allele and antisocial phenotypes in other samples.

    Last, although the frequency of the 2-repeat allele is similar to prior research, only about 5% of the final analytical sample carried the 2-repeat allele. Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers.
    , @Sin City Milla
    Hoping for utopia via genetic engineering is like trying to persuade cats n dogs they will each be better off if they accept becoming like the other. I just can't see that happening absent force.
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  139. @Okechukwu

    bad comparison: MS-13, like the American mafia, is business violence
     
    All street crime is business violence.

    But what difference does couching it in terms of "business" make? The victim isn't any less dead because it's business. Society isn't any less harmed because it's business. That's literally stupid.

    please visit Colin Flaherty’s YouTube videos. This is too silly to discuss

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  140. @Corvinus
    "Do you have any clear notion of what life will be like for Whites in a majority non-white America?"

    We can speculate. That is, you do not have a clear notion, but just a guess. But if I had to hazard one, Generation Z is the bell weather here, as it reflects a demographic shift, one who generally exhibits positive feelings about ethnic diversity in America and is more likely than older generations to have social circles that include different ethnic groups, races, and religions.

    Yes I see that in advertising. All these good-looking young whites having fun and theres always one sweater clad Negro. The proverbial black friend.

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  141. joef says:
    @silviosilver
    I too have wondered whether accounts of racial problems provided by the Jared Taylors of the world are trustworthy. I think there is a definite tendency among pro-whites to exaggerate the extent of racial problems. All the same, the broad outlines of racial differences in violence and criminality are unmistakable.

    As for your experiences, no one seriously doubts that whites are capable of being violent and racially spiteful. The difference between whites and blacks in this regard is that whites are vastly more likely to condemn such behavior than to excuse it, and to take concrete steps to clamp down on it. When was the last time you heard black leaders talking about measures that could be taken to reduce the unacceptably high degree of black-on-white violence? Hahaha. Such an idea is too laughable for words, isn't it.

    I too have wondered whether accounts of racial problems provided by the Jared Taylors of the world are trustworthy. I think there is a definite tendency among pro-whites to exaggerate the extent of racial problems. All the same, the broad outlines of racial differences in violence and criminality are unmistakable.

    As someone who lived with it for a very long time (as well as others I know with similar backgrounds to myself), I can assure you of that the misfortune of dealing with afros is very very real, which has resulted in many many severe outcomes. Do not underestimate it. It is the liberal MSM who are doing the exaggerating by ignoring the great number of victims from afro initiated violence. This can be readily confirmed by prolonged living in close proximity to afro ghettos. However, I would not recommend you becoming a victim to afro violent crime; or if you prevail against afro aggression, convicted by an overzealous prosecutor for committing a hate crime, with the MSM labeling you as a vigilante (how dare we defend ourselves; we all should be willing victims to afro atrocities; after all this is just payback for the misbegotten gains of white privilege, even if you’r Hispanic/Asian).

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  142. Malla says:
    @Corvinus
    "More like Jewish..."

    According to Bertram W. Korn’s research (Jews and Negro Slavery in the Old South, 1789-1865), census records and slave purchasing documents show that southern Jews “who owned slaves were concentrated in cities, not in the plantation districts containing ninety percent of the enslaved population. For example, there were only four Jews – less than one-tenth of one percent – among the 11,000 Southerners who in 1830 owned fifty or more slaves.”

    According to David Brion Davis, Professor of History Emeritus at Yale University, he writes “To keep matters in perspective, we should note that in the American South, in 1830, there were only 120 Jews among the 45,000 slaveholders owning twenty or more slaves and only twenty Jews among the 12,000 slaveholders owning fifty or more slaves. Even if each member of this Jewish slaveholding elite had owned 714 slaves—a ridiculously high figure in the American South—the total number would only equal the 100,000 slaves owned by black and colored planters in St. Domingue in 1789, on the eve of the Haitian Revolution…Of course, some Jews were involved in the slave trade. Every European Western nation was. There were also some regions in which the slave trade was more accessible to Jews—Rhode Island, Newport, Holland, to name a few striking examples. The Dutch Jews weren’t persecuted, so there were quite a few who were involved.”

    I invite you to read the book

    https://www.amazon.in/Secret-Relationship-Between-Blacks-Jews/dp/0963687700

    It will prove beyond doubt about the massive Jewish influence on the slave trade. It was basically a Jewish thing.

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    "It will prove beyond doubt about the massive Jewish influence on the slave trade. It was basically a Jewish thing."

    Not quite. Please educate yourself regarding the major criticisms of that book.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Relationship_Between_Blacks_and_Jews#Critical_reception

    Originally, Professor Martin made this claim —> “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent. So according to an analysis of the 1830 census by Jewish historians, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.”

    There are several problems here. First, the 1830 census did NOT specify slaveholders and their religious affiliation. Second, if one says rawly that “75 percent of Jewish households owned slaves, according to the 1830 census”, was the possession of slaves due to the fact of being Jew or being wealthy? One must delve into the number of Jewish families who were wealthy and owned slaves and who were wealthy and did not own slaves, and compare them to whites in the same two categories. Martin ought to have figures showing correlation of household wealth to slaveowner households and show that indeed Jewish households of the period tended to be be among wealthier households. It could just be a coincidental correspondence between economic status and slaveowner rather than religion and slaveowner. Third, Martin claims that this number came from Jewish historians, but from what particular source? Why should we automatically assume that this statistic is valid if Martin did not offer exactly where it came from and how it was generated, given that Jews are allegedly liars and thieves?

    Winthrop D. Jordan’s article in the Atlantic, “Slavery and the Jews" stated, “In order to assess such a claim, one must resort to details. Martin’s purported actuality [the 75% statistic] is wrong on its face if applied to the “white population” of the United States “as a whole,” because in 1830 only a handful of white northerners still owned slaves. Jews were concentrated in the North, and they constituted a very small minority there. Even if the statement is taken as applying only to the states in the American South that had not adopted gradual emancipation laws, it remains badly flawed. A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact. In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion. It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.”
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  143. Gene Su says:
    @joef
    Yes you are correct there are thugs in every racial category, but that is pointing out the obvious. However, the real point is not that thugs exist among Non Blacks groups (of course they do), but it is the disproportionate amount of afro american thugs that commit the overwhelming amount of violence in this nation (as reported over the decades by newspapers accounts, and FBI crime reporting data). As compared to Non Blacks, the afros level of homicides committed is truly staggering.

    It is true that cities like New York, and Philly (and others in the BosWash megapolis), there are those who never routinely encountered afro thuggery. But there are also many of us who encountered afros on a semi routine basis, and dealt with their antisocial destructive acts. And actually the ones who have had zero contact are the ones who actually are the problem. Because they are pathologically naive when it comes to racial realism about afros, falsely believing in afros victimhood. Limo Libs rather ignore the afro problem instead of confronting it, and dislike anyone who brings it up.

    They show no empathy for Non Black crime victims, and in the most extreme cases, they actually deny their existence. They rather pander to afro fake victimhood to maintain their stylish Limo Liberal vogue (while the real victims suffer in unacknowledged silence). That it why many of us have learned not to show Limo Libs any sympathy when they finally suffer from the afro Frankenstein monster that they helped to create. Let them receive some of the pain that other Non Blacks had to endure, while the Limo Libs pontificated from afar.

    Being raised in a urban working class 'Catholic ghetto' white neighborhood (which included some Puerto Ricans), I knew many bottom feeders within my community that it would be prudent to avoid. Some reformed themselves, some died young, some killed, some alcoholics, some homeless, some in prison, but we were allowed to readily identify them as problem people...

    ...only with the afros we are not allowed to honestly identify their criminal actions, and forced to pretend that it is not their fault. This Limo Lib social strategy has lasted because this nation has been in relative prosperity, but as we continue this prolonged recession (or worse devolve in failed state like conditions, and default), the luxury of ignoring this overwhelming afro deviance will be a luxury we can no longer afford.

    Yes you are correct there are thugs in every racial category, but that is pointing out the obvious.

    Please note that I am not trying to let blacks off the hook or downplay their dysfunctional behavior. I am trying to state the reason why I think a lot of whites are fooled into thinking that there is no black thug problem. If the white delinquency and criminal problem was lessened, the black thug class would stick out as a sorer thumb.

    This Limo Lib social strategy has lasted because this nation has been in relative prosperity, but as we continue this prolonged recession (or worse devolve in failed state like conditions, and default), the luxury of ignoring this overwhelming afro deviance will be a luxury we can no longer afford.

    Perhaps the best thing that can happen to America is for a complete economic and social collapse. Such an event will break the welfare/warfare state as well as Leftist control.

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    Perhaps the best thing that can happen to America is for a complete economic and social collapse. Such an event will break the welfare/warfare state as well as Leftist control.
     
    I do not consider it a best solution, but it seems to be the only solution that remains, because we collectively refuse to impose better ones (mainly holding afro americans accountable for their bad behavior, and forcing them to act in a socially responsible manner toward others). A failed state causes a vacuum in leadership, where wrol results in a rise of potential warlords, and a possible degeneration of all against all. That all Non Blacks will only righteously focus their just anger against aggressive afros, although preferred, is probably unlikely. Also there are few decent Blacks (who are not part of the degenerate afro horde) who will be hurt by this; because it is unlikely that many Non Blacks will be very trusting if this devolves into a afro initiated race war.

    During collapse like conditions, the potential for mass disease, starvation, freezing, violence, and death, will be a high cost for not rectifying this situation by other means. However since it seems that we are inevitably going in this direction, it would be prudent to prepare, pray, and find good reliable friends & neighbors. Good luck, because if this is in fact our only solution, it will be a very rough one full of misfortune. Either way, we have little control, all we can do is try to effectively respond to it, and protect the ones we care about. Most of us did not want this, but that does not relieve an obligation to be ready for it.

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  144. Alden says:
    @Twodees Partain
    "dude, it also includes all the black middle classes"

    I think that without government jobs, there would be no black middle class to speak of. Among the middle class black people that I know personally, most are either retired from a government job or currently employed by government of some level. The remaining few that I know are affirmative action hires and I don't know any middle class black business owners.

    National review published stats that showed 85 percent of employed blacks work for government or quasi government places such as hospitals.

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  145. Gene Su says:
    @nuyorwegian
    Fred Reed, daniel le mouche; where do you live? Reading your words is like reading Alice in Wonderland. I feel like you are certifiably insane. I am a white person who has lived in Harlem all of my adult life (40 years). You want to "ship out" my life long friends and neighbors?!? Are you out of your mind? You couldn't possibly have cultivated such absurd racist notions if you actually had regular contact, lasting friendships and family ties with real life "black" people. Ron Unz has done a great service by providing us this forum of alternative views. But many of the articles and comments exude the putrid stench of racism, white supremacy to be precise; a disease of the mind and heart. I pity you sitting behind your computer screen spouting such vile criminal absurdities as shipping black americans to Africa. Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    To nuyorwegian:

    I am going to give you a fair warning: You might be deceived by your personal experiences. Black Americans are far more segregated along class lines than their white counterparts. In particular, black parents of the middle class do NOT allow their children to mix with the children of the underclass. This goes double in a place like New York. You can live a lifetime in New York and not have any contact with the black thug element. Pick the right neighborhood and you’ll only be dealing with well-groomed, soft spoken, intelligent blacks.

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  146. Corvinus says:
    @Meretricious
    Obama, Holder et al. are very dangerous: they are the intellectual leaders of the underclass

    “Obama, Holder et al. are very dangerous: they are the intellectual leaders of the underclass.”

    Using your own metric, one could say Steve Sailer, Heartiste, Brett Stevens, and John Derbyshire are also “very dangerous”, as they are the intellectual leaders of the (white) underclass by peddling sophistry like race realism and the social-sexual hierarchy.

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  147. Gene Su says:
    @Wally
    "When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself."

    Why should we believe you, your agenda is obvious?

    However, there are violent whites, but the numbers are minute when compared to blacks & browns.
    I suggest you read:
    Color of Crime.
    https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

    Come back when you're ready to back up your assertions.

    I find it quite annoying when conservatives (especially those at Takimag) pen emotional essays delineating how violent black bullies can be (which are true) but then sneer at liberals who sometimes support blacks as “Jews who were beaten up as kids by gentiles.” You sound like you are doing the same.

    I did have a look at that report and some of the statistics that it is citing. A couple of points stood out at me.

    It might be true that more than half of all US murders are committed by blacks, despite the fact they only make about 15% of the nation’s population. However, most murders perpetrated by blacks are inflicted on other blacks. Most other crime categories have blacks over-represented but not by much. This proves my point about how whites are fooled because they are not often on the receiving end of black crime. Most whites personally deal with white criminals, not blacks.

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  148. joef says:
    @Dave
    I've lived in NYC for my entire adult life, since 1988, and I find it hard to believe you've lived in Harlem for 40 years and seen no violence or dysfunction. To be honest, I think your full of it.
    I've lived on the Lower East Side, Brooklyn and now the UES. I vividly remember NY under the Koch and Dinkins administrations. I remember NYC had the highest per capita murder rate in the country until Giuliani was elected, averaging well over 2000 murders a year until 1993 or so. That's not taking into account attempted murder, aggravated assault, armed robbery and just the general level of mayhem and intimidation that existed in wide swathes of NYC.
    Everyone I know who lived here in the 70's and 80's has experienced some form of violence at the hands of a black man or men. I myself was once randomly attacked by a homeless black man. He started a fight with me, and when I squared off with him, preparing to fight, he realized I wasn't an easy mark and pulled out a box cutter and tried to slash me with it. The late 60's through the early 90's was one long explosion of criminality at the hands of a subset of the black population. Hispanics were certainly involved, as were some white ethnics, but the overwhelming majority of it was committed by young black males. And then Giuliani demanded the police focus on the neighborhoods and demographic responsible for the worst crime, and lo and behold, the murder rates started to plummet.
    Liberals never forgave him for this, by the way.
    Are all black people to blame for this ?
    Absolutely not.
    I have worked with and socialized with many warm, wonderful black people. People I came to love and trust. But even they, and many other black people of I've worked with , once they felt they could trust me, would reveal their true feelings about the black community and it's problems.
    Black people know that the black underclass, as it's called, is badly broken, probably beyond repair.
    Many black people will also begrudgingly admit that white people, Asians as well, are generally smarter and more competent when it comes to running things and making sure civilization functions properly.
    The statistical, and anecdotal, evidence of black criminality and dysfunction is overwhelming and irrefutable.
    You appear to be in deep denial about all of this, which is surprising, seeing as how you claim to have lived in the black community for 40 years.
    Do you ever leave the apartment ?

    I’ve lived in NYC for my entire adult life, since 1988, and I find it hard to believe you’ve lived in Harlem for 40 years and seen no violence or dysfunction. To be honest, I think your full of it.

    Yes, a person who advances an obvious falsehood, in an attempt to convince others with his fake propaganda, should not be trusted. I remember around 1990 when Harlem was described by a news source as the most violent square mile in America. It is amazing how libs & leftist even ignore the Black victims of afro violent crime. I bet he didn’t see the ubiquitous public urination, and the one story trash piles between alleyways of buildings either, because the residents were too lazy to put it in a trash can (and then blamed the White man for it). When the rest of America stops tolerating the intolerable (which will eventually be forced by our major economic decline), it will not go well for the afros. But they have no one to blame but themselves, for they chose their course of action against us.

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    "It is amazing how libs & leftists even ignore the Black victims of afro violent crime."

    True, but there is a reason. If they played up black on black crime, they would have to show the black perps and that won't do.

    A similar dynamic applies with black on white crime. You hear complaints that "murdered pretty white girls" get too much attention. Well, white girl victims get big publicity when their killer looks like Joran van der Sloot or Scott Peterson.
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  149. @Okechukwu

    Would you move to a neighborhood that was all Black? . . . I didn’t think so,
     
    If you would choose a white trailer trash shithole over a solid middle or upper class black neighborhood you're even dumber than your posts would seem to indicate.

    Why do clueless people assume that a white person living in a trailer is trash?

    Many elderly people living on a fixed income live in trailers because they are cheap. They own the trailer and so have an incentive to keep them neat and tidy. They are cozy homes. Better own a humble trailer and accrue equity than rent and watch money spiral down the drain.

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  150. Corvinus says:
    @Jesse James
    Name one independently successful black-majority city or country. The former British colonies of Africa were able to import European-based technology to increase the life spans of those populations. Would those improvements in living conditions have taken place independently if the British had never arrived? No way.

    “There is no nonblack nation, even among the most liberal ones, where the black man is dignified. History dealt us an unforgiving blow in the incursion of foreigners into black lands. The Arabs enslaved tribes and nations and then colonized and evangelized them. Then came the Europeans, who, persuaded the Africans were of an inferior race, divided up the continent over lunch in Berlin in 1884. They carted off a large population of its people — sometimes leaving entire villages almost empty — and brought those who remained on the continent under their rule. So complete was the transformation that no black nation retained its ancestral nationhood, national language, or national identity. And today we often hear of how China or India or some other nation is “taking over” Africa economically. There is almost no nation whose majority is of a different race that has not spat on the face of the black person, at one time or the other.”

    Chigozie Obioma

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.

    Now, if you want to actually want to engage in debate, offer the metrics as to what constitutes “successful”.

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    "It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations."

    Only if you believe leftist agitprop. Or smoke hellacious levels of weed. Probably many college leftist useful idiots do plenty of both, which is why this nonsense is so popular among those circles.
    , @Malla

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.
     
    One of the dumbest sentences ever written. That explains why HongKong is so screwed up.
    , @Malla

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.
     

    More stupidity, whose proverb?

    This so called proverb supposes that Whites are the only people who have conquered other peoples and made them work for them. Everybody in the world did that including blacks did it to other blacks. That is what most empires are for.
    Also it should be White man finds the negro, installs a pump and keeps the negro to operate the pump thereby increasing productivity and thus increased standard of living for both Whites and negro. With it came modern education, modern healthcare, modern law and institutions, something superior to what the negro had in the past and very likely could not have attained on his own. Since it is the White man who invented the pump, the White man's role is much more essential than that of the negro, all he did was find the well, which the White man could have found out anyways.
    The fact that the negro still uses or tries to use, the White man's medicine and the White man's technology even after the White man left means he prefers using it as it is extremely beneficial to him. If blacks would have gone back to their tribal state leaving all modern technology behind, then they would have a point. But they enjoy the technology and modern medicine brought by Europeans, which shows they have benefited enormously.

    , @Sin City Milla
    Nationalism is a European invention. It is deceptive to claim African nations existed before whites arrived. Ghana alone has 12 languages n is only united by English. African societies mostly benefited from European colonial rule n the most prosperous ones are those areas where colonialism was most thorough. Still, the end of white rule often meant the end of stable government, like Liberia, Kenya, Congo, CAR, Zimbabwe.

    Lamenting the end of African culture, if one is honest, must also include ending illiteracy, poverty, famine, epidemics, slavery, perpetual war, genocide, n cannibalism, all endemic to many parts of Africa. While Europeans may have exploited some of these temporarily, by 1900 they had ended all of these. These are metrics of what is successful, at least in European culture.

    When they want to solve their problems, I notice African governments still consult European n American experts. Maybe they should stop trying to de-colonize n re-colonize.
    , @Malla

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.
     

    Why discriminate with White and negro? They are both human. Since a Somali is the same as an Irishman to you.
    So we can reframe the sentences and correct them.

    It would clearly appear that humans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of human nations.

    As the old proverb says:

    A human walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    Another finds the earlier human, takes the well, and makes him fetch him the water.


    That sounds more right.

    , @Anonymous
    If it weren't for white men (including some Jews and Arabs), Africans would be back in the stone age, back in Africa, and back down to about 100 million total population.

    This is to say, back exactly where they belong; and nearly everything would be right with the world. So in this sense (and this sense alone) you are indeed correct.
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  151. Alden says:
    @Corvinus
    "Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those “visiting cousins” in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home."

    I'm sure you have statistics at the ready demonstrating clearly how these middle class blacks are very dangerous, right?

    What Scotty says is true. In every city and county jail there are affirmative action black clerks medics and guards. At The beginning of every shift the affirmative employees blacks discover that their dads, siblings, uncles cousins baby daddies and other relatives were just booked in.

    By about my 20th year as a Probation officer, the late 1980s I began to notice that the mothers of many of the under 25 black criminals were very well paid affirmative action government employees.

    Here is a home buying hint. Never buy in a rural town that has a state prison. Prison work is an affirmative action black and brown monopoly It’s no Whites need apply. If you live in a town where a prison is planned MOVE

    The well paid prison black employees thug spawn will ruin the school system with their noise, violence, and thuggery. The black kids will prey on everyone. The Hispanic prison employees will behave like Whites, normally.

    I only post what I know

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    Prison work is an affirmative action black and brown monopoly It’s no Whites need apply
     
    You got a job, Al(abaster) Sharpton!
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  152. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @silviosilver

    The people in love with the idea of measuring intelligence tend not to be very bright themselves. That’s the great irony and the dilemma you face in moving that needle in the direction you want.
     
    I'm not at all sure that they "tend" not to be very bright, but assuming it's true, it is perhaps ironic, but how is it a "dilemma"?

    People who assume those who disagree with them tend not to be very bright tend not to be very bright. I’ll leave you to work out the implications.

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  153. @Carroll Price

    Mr. Reed makes a point to criticize them. Fred Reed loves to complain, but will not offer any solutions and hates those who do.
     
    Wrong. If you re-read Fred's article, toward the end you will find that he hints at returning to the only solution that has ever worked, which is segregation of blacks from non-blacks.

    You write that Mr. Reed “hinted” at a solution in this post, but I have read many Fred Reed articles (here on unz.com and previously on FredOnEverything). I am looking at the big picture of this guy’s writings, not just this one article, Mr. Price.

    Mr. Reed bad-mouths people like Jared Taylor, who, always in a good-natured way, tries to discuss solutions for the racial problems on Amren. On the whole Hispanic invasion, Mr. Reed indeed just punts, and says “oh, there’s nothing we can do now.” Bull. He also bad-mouths the VDare writers whose site has been writing about the illegal and legal immigration problem for more than 15 years. Reed criticizes anyone who comes up with concrete ideas.

    It’s easy being a curmdeon, but some people have to take care of the problems, and not sit on their asses in their bug-out location having siestas and living off the reputation of the US dollar.

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  154. Corvinus says:
    @Malla
    I invite you to read the book

    https://www.amazon.in/Secret-Relationship-Between-Blacks-Jews/dp/0963687700

    It will prove beyond doubt about the massive Jewish influence on the slave trade. It was basically a Jewish thing.

    “It will prove beyond doubt about the massive Jewish influence on the slave trade. It was basically a Jewish thing.”

    Not quite. Please educate yourself regarding the major criticisms of that book.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Relationship_Between_Blacks_and_Jews#Critical_reception

    Originally, Professor Martin made this claim —> “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent. So according to an analysis of the 1830 census by Jewish historians, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.”

    There are several problems here. First, the 1830 census did NOT specify slaveholders and their religious affiliation. Second, if one says rawly that “75 percent of Jewish households owned slaves, according to the 1830 census”, was the possession of slaves due to the fact of being Jew or being wealthy? One must delve into the number of Jewish families who were wealthy and owned slaves and who were wealthy and did not own slaves, and compare them to whites in the same two categories. Martin ought to have figures showing correlation of household wealth to slaveowner households and show that indeed Jewish households of the period tended to be be among wealthier households. It could just be a coincidental correspondence between economic status and slaveowner rather than religion and slaveowner. Third, Martin claims that this number came from Jewish historians, but from what particular source? Why should we automatically assume that this statistic is valid if Martin did not offer exactly where it came from and how it was generated, given that Jews are allegedly liars and thieves?

    Winthrop D. Jordan’s article in the Atlantic, “Slavery and the Jews” stated, “In order to assess such a claim, one must resort to details. Martin’s purported actuality [the 75% statistic] is wrong on its face if applied to the “white population” of the United States “as a whole,” because in 1830 only a handful of white northerners still owned slaves. Jews were concentrated in the North, and they constituted a very small minority there. Even if the statement is taken as applying only to the states in the American South that had not adopted gradual emancipation laws, it remains badly flawed. A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact. In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion. It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.”

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    Second, if one says rawly that “75 percent of Jewish households owned slaves, according to the 1830 census”, was the possession of slaves due to the fact of being Jew or being wealthy? One must delve into the number of Jewish families who were wealthy and owned slaves and who were wealthy and did not own slaves, and compare them to whites in the same two categories. Martin ought to have figures showing correlation of household wealth to slaveowner households and show that indeed Jewish households of the period tended to be be among wealthier households. It could just be a coincidental correspondence between economic status and slaveowner rather than religion and slaveowner. Third, Martin claims that this number came from Jewish historians, but from what particular source? Why should we automatically assume that this statistic is valid if Martin did not offer exactly where it came from and how it was generated, given that Jews are allegedly liars and thieves?
     
    What kind of dumb explanation is this? Jews were rich and owned slaves does not change the fact that they were still more likely to own slaves.

    Jews were concentrated in the North, and they constituted a very small minority there. Even if the statement is taken as applying only to the states in the American South that had not adopted gradual emancipation laws, it remains badly flawed. A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact. In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion.
     
    More dumb explanations and excuses to explain away Jewish participation in slave ownership. Jews were more urban and thus owned slaves does not change the fact that they were more likely to own slaves.
    , @Carroll Price

    “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent.
     
    Jewish families appeared to "own" more slaves than non-Jewish families for the same reason used car lot owners appear to "own' more cars than non-owners. Throughout the South in particular, businesses that specialized in the buying, selling, and swapping of slaves were nearly always owned and operated by Jews.
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  155. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    You can live in NYC and not come into contact with the underclass, I’ll give you that. But Newark? Newark?? Are you out of your mind?

    I’m a very obviously half-South-Asian kid who was never bothered on account of race. Except very occasionally, and then by blacks.

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  156. Corvinus says:
    @Carroll Price
    “Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.”

    The statement is so obviously true, until it needs no explanation.

    “The statement is so obviously true, until it needs no explanation.”

    Apparently you lack the intellectual horsepower to offer an explanation as to the meaning of “Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.”

    It’s OK to be white, but not white and stupid.

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  157. Corvinus says:
    @danand
    From Wiki - “Studies have found differences in the frequency distribution of variants of the MAOA (AKA warrior) gene between ethnic groups: of the participants, 59% of Black men, 54% of Chinese men, 56% of Maori men, and 34% of Caucasian men carried the 3R allele, while 5.5% of Black men, 0.1% of Caucasian men, and 0.00067% of Asian men carried the 2R allele.”

    Any real hope of a true remedy lies within genetic engineering. Retain the color, remove the violent impulse, and boost the intellect. Win, win, winning - happy rap for all.

    The results of any study regarding the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene should be interpreted with caution in light of a number of limitations that need to be addressed in replication studies.

    First, the measures of psychopathic personality traits, ever arrested, and ever incarcerated were based on self reports, not official data. Although self-reports have been shown to be reliable and valid instruments for assessing antisocial phenotypes (Krueger et al., 1994; Sutton, 2010), it is possible that official crime data would have produced differing results.

    Second, the measures of criminal justice outcomes did not delineate between different types of offenders, such as violent predatory offenders versus non-violent property offenders. Perhaps the 2-repeat allele would have varying effects on different subcategories of offenders.

    Third, the sample analyzed in the current study is the same as the one analyzed in Guo et al.’s (2008) study. While some studies examined different outcome measures and focused only on African-American males, it is important that future studies estimate the association between the 2-repeat allele and antisocial phenotypes in other samples.

    Last, although the frequency of the 2-repeat allele is similar to prior research, only about 5% of the final analytical sample carried the 2-repeat allele. Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers.

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  158. gp says:

    “Oh blessed inaccuracy. In poor marksmanship lies our hope.” In Rockford, the thugs’ gunfight of choice is car-to-car engagements. They know they have zero chance of hitting their intended targets. They do it to impress each other, for cred, for fun.

    “[Do black folk] help their kids with their homework?” Increase the American school year from 180 days to 240 days. Eliminate homework: all work done in school, no more excuses. Sixty more days a year the little monsters (of all races) are off the streets. Make the teachers work as many days a year as everybody else has to; they’re getting very well compensated.

    One thing Fred didn’t suggest was to build more prisons. We need to build lots more prisons, and we need to vehemently shame judges and parole boards whenever their stupid leniency gets people injured and killed.

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    Increase the American school year from 180 days to 240 days. Eliminate homework: all work done in school, no more excuses.
     
    Sorry, but it won't work. You can't make oil absorb water no matter how long they're left in contact with one another. The really sad part is that the oil ends up floating on top of the water supporting it. Which doesn't seem quite fair, but that's the way it is.
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  159. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    “Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.”

    It’s true that many whites, especially among the ranks of the liberal spoiled elite types get to keep their romantic fantasies of the magic negro, wise latinas, Urkel black engineers, etc from minimal contact with blacks, but we’re talking Vermont and Massachusetts whites, not Newark, NYC or Philly whites.

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  160. llloyd says: • Website

    I live in China. I was puzzled by the ten year sentence apparently believed by all American commentators. I did check. It would count as a crime spree and therefore would have received a prison sentence of perhaps ten months. A confidential recommendation by Trump or American Embassy would have most likely got them the next air tickets back to America. And a ban on future visits to China or large fine. I could point out. They were young sportsman not black chess player champions.

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  161. joef says:
    @RadicalCenter
    Scotty, you took the words right out of my mouth. Where are these magical cities where one can take the train, take the bus, walk to lunch or dinner, go shopping, etc., without encountering hostile and rude and often menacing Africans?

    I lived in Philly, and it is utterly absurd to say that you can avoid Africans in daily life if you work downtown, or on Drexel campus, or on Penn campus, etc. Same with Washington DC, Cleveland and Cincinnati OH, Newark or Trenton NJ, Detroit, Denver, Saint Louis, and sure as Hell here in Los Angeles.

    No matter where one lives, as soon as you go to the downtown, there they are, ready and eager to glare, to block your way on the sidewalk, intimidate, insult, sometimes assault, and generally enjoy making your life fearful and miserable.

    Scotty, you took the words right out of my mouth. Where are these magical cities where one can take the train, take the bus, walk to lunch or dinner, go shopping, etc., without encountering hostile and rude and often menacing Africans?

    It was certainly that way during the old days in the da Bronx. When aggressive afros got defeated from a strong defensive response, they almost never took their beating like a man (White man racist for not allowing me to attack him for no reason). One day we will no longer tolerate the intolerable, and the majority of afros have only themselves to blame. IF they do not want this outcome they should accept responsibility, stop hating without cause, and change their ways now ( unfortunately, there is not much hope for this to happen).

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    One day we will no longer tolerate the intolerable, and the majority of afros have only themselves to blame. IF they do not want this outcome they should accept responsibility, stop hating without cause, and change their ways now
     
    Once again, Joey, why let someone else get all of the credit?

    I nominate YOU, to grab the AK-47 and the Brass knuckles and lead your people to their bloody victory, Moses!
    , @RadicalCenter
    My mother was born and raised in the Bronx, in a clean, well kept, friendly neighborhood that was almost entirely Italian and Jewish -- but that safe, civilized state of affairs begin to decline decades ago and is gone.

    Her family fled NYC, never to return, immediately after her mother was robbed, with a knife held to her throat before she was slapped in the head and knocked down onto the sidewalk, by a dark-skinned guy having an accent and appearing to be Puerto Rican.

    I'm sure "truth" or some such heartless wise ass will tell us that I'm exaggerating somehow or that her terror, suffering and displacement is not common or doesn't matter so much.
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  162. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Corvinus
    "There is no nonblack nation, even among the most liberal ones, where the black man is dignified. History dealt us an unforgiving blow in the incursion of foreigners into black lands. The Arabs enslaved tribes and nations and then colonized and evangelized them. Then came the Europeans, who, persuaded the Africans were of an inferior race, divided up the continent over lunch in Berlin in 1884. They carted off a large population of its people — sometimes leaving entire villages almost empty — and brought those who remained on the continent under their rule. So complete was the transformation that no black nation retained its ancestral nationhood, national language, or national identity. And today we often hear of how China or India or some other nation is “taking over” Africa economically. There is almost no nation whose majority is of a different race that has not spat on the face of the black person, at one time or the other."

    Chigozie Obioma

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.

    Now, if you want to actually want to engage in debate, offer the metrics as to what constitutes "successful".

    “It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.”

    Only if you believe leftist agitprop. Or smoke hellacious levels of weed. Probably many college leftist useful idiots do plenty of both, which is why this nonsense is so popular among those circles.

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  163. gp says:

    “blacks cannot compete … I think we all know this … liberals know it” Nuh-uh. Liberals are utterly convinced that there is no such thing as race, or if there is, that it is no more than skin color. This is their most militant, unshakable belief. They are angrily blind to contrary evidence. It is their religion.

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    Liberals don't know it but blacks do. This is why no party that appeals to liberty will ever attract most black votes. In an open fair society they know they can't compete, therefore they will always look to government employment n government favoritism as their main goal in life, rationalized as compensation for former slavery.

    Seems to me quarantine was already tried. It was called Jim Crow. A few Justices didn't like it so two generations of working class whites were sacrificed so they could virtue signal.
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  164. Dumbo says:
    @gustafus
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Ts4oLSKoQ

    Great Sermon by a Black Preacher -- BLACKS HAVE A PROBLEM - and it ain't White.

    That said - Fred talks about blacks unable to suppress harmful urges or understand even horizons.

    In plain English -

    Those with an IQ below 90 cannot participate in self governing Democracy. Deficiencies include, but are not confined to -

    ------Inability to stifle harmful urges [ theft, crime, self destructive behavior]

    ------Cannot defer gratification [ entitled Black Athlete steals on impulse]

    ------Cannot resolve conflict without violence [ crime stats in every black city]

    ------Don't comprehend the concept of "event horizons" or "intermediate vs final ends, goals"

    So Far - Fred is on the money because the mean IQ of blacks is 80 - 85.

    What he fails to address is his BELOVED MEXICO and parts south - are inhabited by 600 million peasants with a mean IQ of 85.

    Mexico is corrupt to it's core - racist to its core - and the stratification between dark, Indian low IQ Mexicans and the more educated but equally debased ruling white class... is, well, IQ.

    The Mexico of Fred's affection is the elitist enclave where he lives among the lighter, brighter, who we see on LATIN TV, the weather channel, and in beauty contests.

    Latin America has all the same problems as we do with race - and does NOTHING to advance the interests of those on the bottom rung -- they ship em HERE.

    It's hard to respect Fred's insight when the log in his eye came out of his bedroom.

    Not all is IQ. Low IQ doesn’t cause people to be violent, just dumb. The cause of violence in those populations is more likely high testosterone, or some gene linked to aggressive behavior, which perhaps helped them to survive on previous times. Pre-Columbian tribes were very violent, African tribes too. Whites and Asians can be violent too but they control it or organize it better and are more socially cooperative.

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    People with high IQ are more likely to think about the long term consequences of their actions. Low IQ individuals will lash out, attack each other and end up in jail.
    One of the many reasons why shopkeepers in third world countries ripping off and cheating their customers is so common is because they do not care about their moral reputation in the long term, they rarely think about the customer not returning to their shop. They rip off their customers and gloat to themselves how cunning and smart they are. And thus third world hellholes remain third world hell holes and probably will remain so.
    , @MarkinLA
    The cause of violence in those populations is more likely high testosterone, or some gene linked to aggressive

    Maybe, but the violence is always in the pursuit of wanting something, and wanting it right now, even if they can't pay for it. Violence is the means of having to back up your act of taking it from somebody.
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  165. Well?
    If you really think about it, segregation was not such a bad thing.
    Did segregation hurt the black population in any way?
    I do not think so.
    And!!!!
    Freedom of association is firmly entrenched in constitution.
    Desegregation was actually a rape of the part of the constitution !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  166. gp says:
    @JessicaR
    I have read both the article and the responses with mixed reactions. The racial snapshot focuses on the negative. My mother, my grandfather, my great aunt and I have all been mugged and all the assailants were black. While an open discussion of this reality is very important, there are other realities as well: the high percentage of African-Americans in the health care fields who have given me competent and compassionate care, the African-American churches who are doing yeoman's work in trying to improve conditions within the community, and the number of African-Americans serving in America's (stupid and criminal!) wars and coming home to be treated as potential thugs and criminals. When I first moved to Mississippi, I talked with a black veteran of the Afghanistan war who objected to the term "African-American" because he felt that after serving his country, he deserved to just be an American and not a separate kind of American.

    I also find that when I am out in public and need some kind of help--lifting something heavy, needing a break in traffic--very often the person helping me is black (or African-American--take your pick.) I have African-American neighbors I much prefer to some of the drug-addicted whites I have lived next to in my life.

    Whenever I hear discussions of racial or ethnic politics, I am reminded of the courtroom oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Fred Reed has told the truth but has not told the whole truth.

    Gene Su, you make an excellent point about not judging an entire people by its worst elements.

    “the African-American churches who are doing yeoman’s work in trying to improve conditions within the community” Yes, there are many of those churches. So why don’t they _ever_ succeed? Where is there a “community” where “conditions improved” as a result of black effort? “Communities” seem to improve most by white gentrification, but few blacks would agree.

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  167. joef says:
    @MBlanc46
    Shipping them out isn’t going to happen. It didn’t happen in the 19th century, it won’t happen in the 21st. As Mr Reed appears to suggest, significant segregation is possible. Most blacks don’t like white people and don’t want to live among us. Black nationalism has had strong support among blacks since the 19th century. Race realists who want to ameliorate racial conflict should support black nationalism.

    As Mr Reed appears to suggest, significant segregation is possible. Most blacks don’t like white people and don’t want to live among us.

    One problem with that solution: They can never give up their addiction for Non Black money to pay for afro entitlements. They certainly could not maintain a decent standard of living without us (they would more than likely starve from their own lazy lack of initiative). And this addiction is what is weighing down our economy with afro produced debt (not the only cause but a maj one);

    whether from equal housing lender bank loans, subprime car loans, easy access credit cards, Obama phones, Medicaid (with overwhelmed hospital emergency rooms leading to bankrupted hospital closings), EBT cards, section eight housing, free school lunch, (robberies, burglaries, & larcenies) etc etc, they are primarily responsible for our unprecedented debt levels that will not realistically be paid back (and still continues to grow). The only thing that will stop this afro addiction for more entitlements is national bankruptcy (and municipal/State defaults are the canaries in the coal mine for this process). They may hate us without cause, but they love our money more, and will refuse to part ways with it.

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  168. Miro23 says:
    @Negrolphin Pool

    Add up all of the crimes of blacks, and it does not come close to the cost of white collar crime from white people.
     
    I would like to see even the laziest effort to quantitatively back this up. Let me break out pen and napkin to get some inkling of how off the mark it is. Take, for example, the real estate losses in Detroit, as just one isolated example. In 1950, the population of the city was 1.8 million. At an average person per household of 3 (anyone know if is this close?), adjusted upwards a little from today's number of 2.58, that would be about 600,000 homes. At that time, Detroit was considered one of the most important and sought-after cities in the United States. So I could probably reasonably go on the very high end when estimating what those houses might be worth today if the racial order had been maintained. But I'll be conservative, since it will just lead to an endless counterfactual debate about the auto industry etc.

    Today, at a rate of 2.58 people per household, it means that there are approximately 260,773 residential units in the city. That means 339,000 homes simply disappeared. Between Devil's Night and slum clearance, it's no mystery where they all went, especially to anyone who's ever toured the rubble.

    I'll avoid factoring in distracting yet substantive things like the widespread partitioning of the remaining homes into rental properties, which may mean the 260,773 number above is massively overstated, nor will I attempt to address commercial real estate, which, at least at first glance, is probably in considerably worse condition than its residential counterpart across most of the city. Let's just bear in mind that this is likely to be an absolute lower-bound estimate.

    The median home price in Detroit, according to Zillow is $45,000.

    The median home price in mostly white Traverse City, Michigan, a city with similar housing stock from a similar period in a similar location, is $224,000. If we assume the difference between the two prices is equal to the single-home "black dysfunction premium", then the total black dysfunction premium incurred by Detroit residential real estate owners since 1950 $46,678,367,000. On top of that, there has been an outright 339,000*$224,000 = $75,936,000,000 loss on the housing units that have simply disappeared. The total residential real estate loss in Detroit, due almost entirely to the unoppressed unconstrained presence of blacks, is about $123 billion dollars.


    This number is likely to be a severe underestimate, as evidenced by the fact that, at the point of its peak population in 1950, Detroit was considered one of the three top cities in America. A more appropriate baseline non-Africanized housing price for comparative purposes might be San Francisco or New York. Instead, Traverse City, a nice but not overly industrious Midwestern town, was used. Nor have we even attempted to look at the probably much worse asset history of commercial real estate in the city.

    This is but one tiny stroke in the Jackson Pollack portrait of American racial strife, all attributable to black crime. And the described losses affected real people and families deeply. It wasn't a gentlemanly game of multi-billionaire Jew rips off just-billionaire Jew, as played out in so many white collar crimes.

    The median home price in mostly white Traverse City, Michigan, a city with similar housing stock from a similar period in a similar location, is $224,000. If we assume the difference between the two prices is equal to the single-home “black dysfunction premium”, then the total black dysfunction premium incurred by Detroit residential real estate owners since 1950 $46,678,367,000.

    Detroit used to be the world centre of car manufacturing. When this collapsed, so did Detroit along with jobs and tax revenues. It wasn’t “black dysfunction” that caused the collapse, it was the chronic inability of the US to retain and develop its industrial base (unlike Germany and Japan) along with the most stupid mass outsourcing to Asia.

    Ref. Andy Grove (ex CEO of Intel) article in Bloomberg, “How American Can Create Jobs” http://www.openvms.org/http%3A//www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2010-07-01/andy-grove-how-america-can-create-jobs

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    It's a tenuous argument that Detroit was irrevocably doomed by auto manufacturing's downturn - by the way, the Big Three still all have major presences in Detroit, afaik - when places like Rochester Hills and Gross Pointe Woods - the latter being literally adjacent to one of the worst ghettos in America, with a couple feet marking the transition from burnt out buildings and weeds in the sidewalk to manicured lawns and electronic gates - are among the most exclusive and pricey places in all of Michigan. Why is Gross Pointe Woods, with many of its mini-mansions a stone's throw from Detroit's shocking dereliction, a thriving community with some of the highest real estate values in the state?

    The same argument can be made for other towns in in the Detroit Metro Area and throughout Michigan, such as Grand Rapids, that were once heavily reliant on the automotive industry but successfully diversified and are booming today.

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  169. Okechukwu says:
    @daniel le mouche
    They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus 'big happy family'--no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this 'ideal' (i.e. black man + white woman).
    But to more immediate matters at hand, a rational and just society (the diametrical opposite to ours, it goes without saying) would lock up these animals. Those who show they can be civilized--till they no longer can, that is (OJ, so many others)--can continue to reap what used to be the endless benefits of such a wealthy society.
    Never mind. The simple reality (again, shown by so much horrific life experience) is that they will always hate whitey, and in the most violent, aggressive manner. And thoughtful, honest whites will remember their own heritage, not fall for Jew propaganda of multicultural utopia, and realize in great numbers, again--not long ago, most did--that they don't want to be around these fuckers anyway, no matter what. We have every right (if only we didn't behave like pussies) to live in European societies, sans darkie hordes, especially of the Afro American variety.

    They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said.

    It’s going to be very difficult for your keyboard to ship out anyone.

    It would be much easier to ship you and your ilk back to Europe than it would be to ship black Americans to Africa. At some point, you people may have to be shipped somewhere. If not to Europe or Siberia, then to an island somewhere. Otherwise you will have to be quarantined one way or the other.

    At some point society will say Enough!

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    It would be much easier to ship you and your ilk back to Europe than it would be to ship black Americans to Africa.
     
    How so?
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  170. joef says:
    @Gene Su

    Yes you are correct there are thugs in every racial category, but that is pointing out the obvious.
     
    Please note that I am not trying to let blacks off the hook or downplay their dysfunctional behavior. I am trying to state the reason why I think a lot of whites are fooled into thinking that there is no black thug problem. If the white delinquency and criminal problem was lessened, the black thug class would stick out as a sorer thumb.

    This Limo Lib social strategy has lasted because this nation has been in relative prosperity, but as we continue this prolonged recession (or worse devolve in failed state like conditions, and default), the luxury of ignoring this overwhelming afro deviance will be a luxury we can no longer afford.

     

    Perhaps the best thing that can happen to America is for a complete economic and social collapse. Such an event will break the welfare/warfare state as well as Leftist control.

    Perhaps the best thing that can happen to America is for a complete economic and social collapse. Such an event will break the welfare/warfare state as well as Leftist control.

    I do not consider it a best solution, but it seems to be the only solution that remains, because we collectively refuse to impose better ones (mainly holding afro americans accountable for their bad behavior, and forcing them to act in a socially responsible manner toward others). A failed state causes a vacuum in leadership, where wrol results in a rise of potential warlords, and a possible degeneration of all against all. That all Non Blacks will only righteously focus their just anger against aggressive afros, although preferred, is probably unlikely. Also there are few decent Blacks (who are not part of the degenerate afro horde) who will be hurt by this; because it is unlikely that many Non Blacks will be very trusting if this devolves into a afro initiated race war.

    During collapse like conditions, the potential for mass disease, starvation, freezing, violence, and death, will be a high cost for not rectifying this situation by other means. However since it seems that we are inevitably going in this direction, it would be prudent to prepare, pray, and find good reliable friends & neighbors. Good luck, because if this is in fact our only solution, it will be a very rough one full of misfortune. Either way, we have little control, all we can do is try to effectively respond to it, and protect the ones we care about. Most of us did not want this, but that does not relieve an obligation to be ready for it.

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    Just want to clarify. I agree with the second paragraph about preparedness for the coming troubles.

    An analysis of the source of the troubles is far too complex to be covered in a blog comment.

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  171. Malla says:
    @Corvinus
    "There is no nonblack nation, even among the most liberal ones, where the black man is dignified. History dealt us an unforgiving blow in the incursion of foreigners into black lands. The Arabs enslaved tribes and nations and then colonized and evangelized them. Then came the Europeans, who, persuaded the Africans were of an inferior race, divided up the continent over lunch in Berlin in 1884. They carted off a large population of its people — sometimes leaving entire villages almost empty — and brought those who remained on the continent under their rule. So complete was the transformation that no black nation retained its ancestral nationhood, national language, or national identity. And today we often hear of how China or India or some other nation is “taking over” Africa economically. There is almost no nation whose majority is of a different race that has not spat on the face of the black person, at one time or the other."

    Chigozie Obioma

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.

    Now, if you want to actually want to engage in debate, offer the metrics as to what constitutes "successful".

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    One of the dumbest sentences ever written. That explains why HongKong is so screwed up.

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  172. Truth says:
    @Alden
    What Scotty says is true. In every city and county jail there are affirmative action black clerks medics and guards. At The beginning of every shift the affirmative employees blacks discover that their dads, siblings, uncles cousins baby daddies and other relatives were just booked in.

    By about my 20th year as a Probation officer, the late 1980s I began to notice that the mothers of many of the under 25 black criminals were very well paid affirmative action government employees.

    Here is a home buying hint. Never buy in a rural town that has a state prison. Prison work is an affirmative action black and brown monopoly It's no Whites need apply. If you live in a town where a prison is planned MOVE

    The well paid prison black employees thug spawn will ruin the school system with their noise, violence, and thuggery. The black kids will prey on everyone. The Hispanic prison employees will behave like Whites, normally.

    I only post what I know

    Prison work is an affirmative action black and brown monopoly It’s no Whites need apply

    You got a job, Al(abaster) Sharpton!

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  173. @Miro23

    The median home price in mostly white Traverse City, Michigan, a city with similar housing stock from a similar period in a similar location, is $224,000. If we assume the difference between the two prices is equal to the single-home “black dysfunction premium”, then the total black dysfunction premium incurred by Detroit residential real estate owners since 1950 $46,678,367,000.
     
    Detroit used to be the world centre of car manufacturing. When this collapsed, so did Detroit along with jobs and tax revenues. It wasn't "black dysfunction" that caused the collapse, it was the chronic inability of the US to retain and develop its industrial base (unlike Germany and Japan) along with the most stupid mass outsourcing to Asia.

    Ref. Andy Grove (ex CEO of Intel) article in Bloomberg, “How American Can Create Jobs” http://www.openvms.org/http%3A//www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2010-07-01/andy-grove-how-america-can-create-jobs

    It’s a tenuous argument that Detroit was irrevocably doomed by auto manufacturing’s downturn – by the way, the Big Three still all have major presences in Detroit, afaik – when places like Rochester Hills and Gross Pointe Woods – the latter being literally adjacent to one of the worst ghettos in America, with a couple feet marking the transition from burnt out buildings and weeds in the sidewalk to manicured lawns and electronic gates – are among the most exclusive and pricey places in all of Michigan. Why is Gross Pointe Woods, with many of its mini-mansions a stone’s throw from Detroit’s shocking dereliction, a thriving community with some of the highest real estate values in the state?

    The same argument can be made for other towns in in the Detroit Metro Area and throughout Michigan, such as Grand Rapids, that were once heavily reliant on the automotive industry but successfully diversified and are booming today.

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    I grew up in Detroit, and personally witnessed the destruction of a once-great city. There are a number of reasons for Detroit's decline that have never been explored or discussed.
    1. "Blockbusting" by greedy real estate agents. Real estate agents would send out postcards with the following: "A new family is moving into your neighborhood. If you want to sell your house, please call me at xxx-xxxx". A "new family" was a euphemism for black families, and was used to "encourage" whites to sell their homes.
    2. HUD (Housing and Urban Development) speculators and real estate hustlers conspired to buy up" and raze the best houses on every block, in certain sections of the city. Quite often, "shacks" were left standing while decent housing was purchased by HUD and razed. This was done purposely to depress property values, to make it easier for speculators to purchase properties at "bargain basement" prices.
    I realize that items 1 and 2 counteract each other and are at cross purposes, but they were a reality in 1960s Detroit.
    3. The 1967 riots did much to push whites out of Detroit. A little-known aspect of the Detroit riots was the application of spray-painted words on the exteriors of black-owned businesses. The words "soul brother" was spray-painted on businesses owned by blacks so that the "angels of death" (actually rioters) would spare them from destruction. Whole business districts around the city were destroyed, never to regain their former selves.
    4. The election of Coleman Alexander Young, Detroit's first black mayor, who was overtly racist to Detroit's white citizens while "getting along just fine" with the "movers and shakers" (big business people) of the day (as long as the campaign donations kept coming in)....
    5. The abolition of the STRESS (Stop The Robberies, Enjoy Safe Streets) program. This anti-criminal program was put in by mayor Young's predecessor and was quite successful in "cleaning up the streets" of criminals. In this program, police officers would disguise themselves as vulnerable old people and walk through neighborhoods as "decoys". Predatory criminals would attempt to rob these elderly citizens and quite often, were dispatched to "the great hereafter". One of Young's campaign promises was the abolition of the STRESS program as too many of "his people" were being eliminated. Upon the election of Young, the program was disbanded.
    These are 5 reasons for this once-great city's demise.
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  174. Truth says:
    @joef

    Scotty, you took the words right out of my mouth. Where are these magical cities where one can take the train, take the bus, walk to lunch or dinner, go shopping, etc., without encountering hostile and rude and often menacing Africans?

     

    It was certainly that way during the old days in the da Bronx. When aggressive afros got defeated from a strong defensive response, they almost never took their beating like a man (White man racist for not allowing me to attack him for no reason). One day we will no longer tolerate the intolerable, and the majority of afros have only themselves to blame. IF they do not want this outcome they should accept responsibility, stop hating without cause, and change their ways now ( unfortunately, there is not much hope for this to happen).

    One day we will no longer tolerate the intolerable, and the majority of afros have only themselves to blame. IF they do not want this outcome they should accept responsibility, stop hating without cause, and change their ways now

    Once again, Joey, why let someone else get all of the credit?

    I nominate YOU, to grab the AK-47 and the Brass knuckles and lead your people to their bloody victory, Moses!

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    1st : Because unlike criminal minded afros, most of us do not attack. Instead we defend ourselves against the afros who are typically the primary aggressors (I know that is a shock to you, because today libs demand that we all should be willing victims to unprovoked afro aggression, but there are still those among us who will take a stand against it, I think you would label such self defense as a hate crime) ...

    2nd: As I said to you before, many Whites have become limo liberal wimps, more enamored with stylish afro worship than protecting themselves.

    3rd: If you carefully read what I have been saying in the past: I have no romantic notions about the pending failed state afro initiated race war; because many innocents will suffer from this (which includes many non afro thug Black people); the suffering from the resultant scarcity will be severe, if and when, this happens. Being ready for what is almost inevitable, is not the same as wanting it to happen.

    4th: It is afro initiated aggressive behavior, and constant parasitical demands for more & more unearned benefits, that is pushing for this; not most Non Blacks who want to peacefully go about their own business. In other words, afros are the cause, the response of Non Blacks protecting themselves are the effect (that is called a logical progression).

    5th: Why do you enablers of afro aggression (Blacks like yourself, leftist, and naive libs) always try to convince other Non Blacks who have already accumulated a lifetime worth of negative interactions/observations with afros... you must know that is an exercise in futility to get us to deny our own massive amount of bad experiences. You would be much better off trying to convince a pathologically naive White person, who has had very limited contact with dysfunctional afro culture; They are extremely eager to worship afros ad nauseam, so they can be in the contemporary vogue of the times, and brag to other naive libs how opened minded they are. You are wasting your time with the rest of us... we already know how destructively savage afros can be.

    6th: Maybe you should be leading the charge of afro reform to become better socially adjusted productive people, so Non Blacks will stop having negative opinions of them, and we won't end up becoming a failed state, with a resultant afro initiated race war (which they will lose)... probably not, afros will probably never let go of their racial animosity (but one can hope).

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  175. @Meretricious
    bad comparison: MS-13, like the American mafia, is business violence

    Maybe more than business violence. Mexican papers have an obsession with blood. Given the nature of the ancient religion, I’ve often wondered how deep the ancient values still run. Ritualistic murder in Mexico is well documented n tattooing was part of their religion. Maybe MS13 is a resurfacing of ancient practices.

    Since first cousin marriage has persisted for thousands of years in the mid east, I’m not as quick as some others to assume that ethnic groups can change their stripes like clothes.

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    Papers everywhere have an obsession with blood.
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  176. @danand
    From Wiki - “Studies have found differences in the frequency distribution of variants of the MAOA (AKA warrior) gene between ethnic groups: of the participants, 59% of Black men, 54% of Chinese men, 56% of Maori men, and 34% of Caucasian men carried the 3R allele, while 5.5% of Black men, 0.1% of Caucasian men, and 0.00067% of Asian men carried the 2R allele.”

    Any real hope of a true remedy lies within genetic engineering. Retain the color, remove the violent impulse, and boost the intellect. Win, win, winning - happy rap for all.

    Hoping for utopia via genetic engineering is like trying to persuade cats n dogs they will each be better off if they accept becoming like the other. I just can’t see that happening absent force.

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  177. @gp
    "blacks cannot compete ... I think we all know this ... liberals know it" Nuh-uh. Liberals are utterly convinced that there is no such thing as race, or if there is, that it is no more than skin color. This is their most militant, unshakable belief. They are angrily blind to contrary evidence. It is their religion.

    Liberals don’t know it but blacks do. This is why no party that appeals to liberty will ever attract most black votes. In an open fair society they know they can’t compete, therefore they will always look to government employment n government favoritism as their main goal in life, rationalized as compensation for former slavery.

    Seems to me quarantine was already tried. It was called Jim Crow. A few Justices didn’t like it so two generations of working class whites were sacrificed so they could virtue signal.

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  178. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said.
     
    It's going to be very difficult for your keyboard to ship out anyone.

    It would be much easier to ship you and your ilk back to Europe than it would be to ship black Americans to Africa. At some point, you people may have to be shipped somewhere. If not to Europe or Siberia, then to an island somewhere. Otherwise you will have to be quarantined one way or the other.

    At some point society will say Enough!

    It would be much easier to ship you and your ilk back to Europe than it would be to ship black Americans to Africa.

    How so?

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    Much easier to expel, quarantine or otherwise liquidate a fringe element of hardcore white supremacist nitwits menacing society than the fantastical delusion of deporting 40 million blacks. Don't think that the US government doesn't have contingency planning for this.
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  179. @Gene Su
    I'm going to split my response into several posts:

    Fred, you didn't once talk about Dylann Roof and the Charleston Church shooting. You had a golden opportunity to repeat a theme that you had in your earlier essays: that the mainstream media aggressively plays up race when dealing with white on black crime and downplays black on white crime. You could have talked about how the Charleston Church shooting got a cover page on Time magazine but the Tennessee Church shooting, done by an African immigrant, hardly made a ripple.

    Reminds me of a call in to NPR by a recent Arab immigrant who said that he had studied black on non-black crime n that it was much larger than most think n that it was not being reported by the media. The NPR host cut him off immediately with the comment “Statistics can be used to prove anything.”

    Apparently facts are facts until they go against the officially approved narrative. Then they are not facts. Not even the Census Bureau.

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  180. edNels says:
    @Johnny Smoggins
    Of all the cucked things Trump has done, intervening on behalf of those basketball players to win their release was among the most egregious.

    And allowing him to do it showed that the Chinese still aren't ready to stand up to America. A real nation would have politely told him to sod off and jailed them.

    I’m just gonna guess the basketball players were typical dumb kids pranking, not too smart, just not murder or anything like all the outrage here would be waranted for. Kids will be niggers! Imean… sheesh!

    Another thing though is, the black teenagers wouldn’t fit in a Chinese jail. Not a good situation for anybody so if it took presidential action so be it. Thrump could have let them rot, but that would be all bad, must be he didn’t mind seeming to have a heart to help out the little guy in this one. That won’t be a trend though, don’t count on that.

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  181. @Corvinus
    "Yes, the miscegenation promoted by the media and big corporations is amazing."

    So what? Feel free to not mix with other races. But realize that there is nothing inherently immoral with the mixing of the races.

    "The good point is that only stupid whites would be persuades by these ads."

    Right, tens of millions of white people who have high IQ are somehow "stupid" because they believe in treating people with dignity and respect, and also believe that freedom of association means that white people may interact, date, and mate with non-white people.

    Oh, so you believe in freedom of association? Good on you. So you must support the freedom of whites to associate with those they wish to, even if it’s limited to others of their race. Please start speaking out against forced integration.

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    "So you must support the freedom of whites to associate with those they wish to, even if it’s limited to others of their race."

    Depends upon what is being limited. For example, assume that I live in an all-white neighborhood, but I choose to sell my house--my property--to a non-white person. That is my freedom of association to enable that family to move in if they are willing to pay me what I am asking for. Furthermore, unfettered freedom of association is dead--thanks to the Southrons who couldn't even abide by the "separate but equal" decision in the Plessy case.
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  182. @Gene Su
    I'm going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of "race realists" think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing "critical race theory" (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the "icing on the cake". I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America's social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America's public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I'm going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I'm also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a "wigger") who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don't have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it's not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

    I hardly know where to begin to correct such naivete. My race realism is precisely that–from real daily experience, not armchair theorizing. Multiple unprovoked attacks, knifings, threats, holdups at gunpoint on most of my family n relatives, my elderly mother dragged down the street by a black thief in a truck after he had just robbed her, another relative run over, neighbor’s 17 year old son at his first job executed by a black on parole while robbing him. It just goes on n on. And this is in Houston, a city that is virtually at peace in its race relations, without a race riot since 1917. How much worse must it be with violent black males in Baltimore, Chicago, Newark, Detroit, etc? Houston is 35% hispanic, 30% black, 30% white, 5% Asian. But the vast majority of violent crime is done by black males. Everyone knows this but the media, which is half black, never ever mentions it.

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    My race realism is precisely that–from real daily experience, not armchair theorizing. Multiple unprovoked attacks, knifings, threats, holdups at gunpoint on most of my family n relatives,
     
    This is the kind of experience that most libs, and leftist, try to most desperately deny. They want these victims to suffer in silence, so they can continue to live in their fantasy vogue of how wonderful afros are, and how lucky we are to be with them. They also forbid self defense against afro american initiated aggression. Aggressive afros themselves like to commit violence without consequences, in which they hate & fear their victims fighting back against them. They like easy marks, that don't fight back, and conduct whole protest movements to keep it that way. They pretend that they are tough, but if so why do they need liberals, the MSM, and prosecutors, to protect them from Non Blacks fighting back then? That is because many of them are cowards who like to prey on helpless innocent victims. Which begs the question to liberals: what exactly makes afros so wonderful? [limo libs are the worst because they callously ignore the suffering of their fellow countrymen, at the hands of the afro, so they can feel good about themselves]
    , @Truth

    Multiple unprovoked attacks, knifings, threats, holdups at gunpoint on most of my family n relatives, my elderly mother dragged down the street by a black thief in a truck after he had just robbed her, another relative run over, neighbor’s 17 year old son at his first job executed by a black on parole while robbing him.
     
    You guys have lived such exciting lives. Are you sure you want to give this up to sit on a rocking chair and talk about "the great storm we had, oh, 42 year ago" with your white neighbors? I mean I grew up in a %99 black neighborhood in Queens and I haven't had near this much fun. I read about some of your lives and I think I'm watching an episode of 'Barretta.'
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  183. Malla says:
    @Corvinus
    "It will prove beyond doubt about the massive Jewish influence on the slave trade. It was basically a Jewish thing."

    Not quite. Please educate yourself regarding the major criticisms of that book.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Relationship_Between_Blacks_and_Jews#Critical_reception

    Originally, Professor Martin made this claim —> “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent. So according to an analysis of the 1830 census by Jewish historians, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.”

    There are several problems here. First, the 1830 census did NOT specify slaveholders and their religious affiliation. Second, if one says rawly that “75 percent of Jewish households owned slaves, according to the 1830 census”, was the possession of slaves due to the fact of being Jew or being wealthy? One must delve into the number of Jewish families who were wealthy and owned slaves and who were wealthy and did not own slaves, and compare them to whites in the same two categories. Martin ought to have figures showing correlation of household wealth to slaveowner households and show that indeed Jewish households of the period tended to be be among wealthier households. It could just be a coincidental correspondence between economic status and slaveowner rather than religion and slaveowner. Third, Martin claims that this number came from Jewish historians, but from what particular source? Why should we automatically assume that this statistic is valid if Martin did not offer exactly where it came from and how it was generated, given that Jews are allegedly liars and thieves?

    Winthrop D. Jordan’s article in the Atlantic, “Slavery and the Jews" stated, “In order to assess such a claim, one must resort to details. Martin’s purported actuality [the 75% statistic] is wrong on its face if applied to the “white population” of the United States “as a whole,” because in 1830 only a handful of white northerners still owned slaves. Jews were concentrated in the North, and they constituted a very small minority there. Even if the statement is taken as applying only to the states in the American South that had not adopted gradual emancipation laws, it remains badly flawed. A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact. In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion. It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.”

    Second, if one says rawly that “75 percent of Jewish households owned slaves, according to the 1830 census”, was the possession of slaves due to the fact of being Jew or being wealthy? One must delve into the number of Jewish families who were wealthy and owned slaves and who were wealthy and did not own slaves, and compare them to whites in the same two categories. Martin ought to have figures showing correlation of household wealth to slaveowner households and show that indeed Jewish households of the period tended to be be among wealthier households. It could just be a coincidental correspondence between economic status and slaveowner rather than religion and slaveowner. Third, Martin claims that this number came from Jewish historians, but from what particular source? Why should we automatically assume that this statistic is valid if Martin did not offer exactly where it came from and how it was generated, given that Jews are allegedly liars and thieves?

    What kind of dumb explanation is this? Jews were rich and owned slaves does not change the fact that they were still more likely to own slaves.

    Jews were concentrated in the North, and they constituted a very small minority there. Even if the statement is taken as applying only to the states in the American South that had not adopted gradual emancipation laws, it remains badly flawed. A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact. In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion.

    More dumb explanations and excuses to explain away Jewish participation in slave ownership. Jews were more urban and thus owned slaves does not change the fact that they were more likely to own slaves.

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    "What kind of dumb explanation is this? Jews were rich and owned slaves does not change the fact that they were still more likely to own slaves."

    "More dumb explanations and excuses to explain away Jewish participation in slave ownership. Jews were more urban and thus owned slaves does not change the fact that they were more likely to own slaves."

    I see that you are becoming triggered by hate facts here. Calm down. Try to think rationally here.

    Example--From 1709-1807, there are 934 recorded voyages in which Rhode Island merchants were responsible for procuring 106,000 slaves. Now, Jews arrived in Newport as early as 1758. On the eve of the Revolution, they were estimated to be around thirty families. According to historical records historian Eli Faber used (e.g. naval office shipping lists, censuses, tax records) that identified merchants and planters as Jewish, there were 347 slave ships sent to Africa by Rhode Island slave traders from 1761-1774, with 21 being funded by Aaron Lopez, a Portuguese Jew. That means 326 voyages were underwritten by non-Jews during this time frame. Of course, Jews played a role in the peddling of human flesh. The extent in this particular case is nominal compared to other ethnic groups.

    Rather than saying things are "dumb", you need to muster up your own statistics to counter the evidence I presented here.
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  184. Malla says:
    @Corvinus
    "There is no nonblack nation, even among the most liberal ones, where the black man is dignified. History dealt us an unforgiving blow in the incursion of foreigners into black lands. The Arabs enslaved tribes and nations and then colonized and evangelized them. Then came the Europeans, who, persuaded the Africans were of an inferior race, divided up the continent over lunch in Berlin in 1884. They carted off a large population of its people — sometimes leaving entire villages almost empty — and brought those who remained on the continent under their rule. So complete was the transformation that no black nation retained its ancestral nationhood, national language, or national identity. And today we often hear of how China or India or some other nation is “taking over” Africa economically. There is almost no nation whose majority is of a different race that has not spat on the face of the black person, at one time or the other."

    Chigozie Obioma

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.

    Now, if you want to actually want to engage in debate, offer the metrics as to what constitutes "successful".

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.

    More stupidity, whose proverb?

    This so called proverb supposes that Whites are the only people who have conquered other peoples and made them work for them. Everybody in the world did that including blacks did it to other blacks. That is what most empires are for.
    Also it should be White man finds the negro, installs a pump and keeps the negro to operate the pump thereby increasing productivity and thus increased standard of living for both Whites and negro. With it came modern education, modern healthcare, modern law and institutions, something superior to what the negro had in the past and very likely could not have attained on his own. Since it is the White man who invented the pump, the White man’s role is much more essential than that of the negro, all he did was find the well, which the White man could have found out anyways.
    The fact that the negro still uses or tries to use, the White man’s medicine and the White man’s technology even after the White man left means he prefers using it as it is extremely beneficial to him. If blacks would have gone back to their tribal state leaving all modern technology behind, then they would have a point. But they enjoy the technology and modern medicine brought by Europeans, which shows they have benefited enormously.

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    Using your own metric, one could say Steve Sailer, Heartiste, Brett Stevens, and John Derbyshire are also “very dangerous”, as they are the intellectual leaders of the (white) underclass by peddling sophistry like race realism and the social-sexual hierarchy.
     
    More stupid assumptions from an idiot with an agenda. Race realism is no sophistry and are facts. There is no proof whatsoever that their readership belong to the so called White underclass. The White underclass would have loved results which show Whites have IQs higher than North East Asians but that is obviously not the case in race realism.
    , @Corvinus
    "This so called proverb supposes that Whites are the only people who have conquered other peoples and made them work for them."

    No, this proverb demonstrates that among all people who have conquered other peoples, white people have been more successful at it, and in the process have destroyed things in their wake.

    "Also it should be White man finds the negro, installs a pump and keeps the negro to operate the pump thereby increasing productivity and thus increased standard of living for both Whites and negro."

    Through brute force. How is this use of violence consistent with the principle of freedom of association?

    "With it came modern education, modern healthcare, modern law and institutions, something superior to what the negro had in the past and very likely could not have attained on his own."

    Undoubtedly those areas that were colonized received benefits, but it came at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    "Since it is the White man who invented the pump, the White man’s role is much more essential than that of the negro, all he did was find the well, which the White man could have found out anyways."

    The first pump, albeit rudimentary, was actually developed by the Egyptians.

    http://www.waterencyclopedia.com/Po-Re/Pumps-Traditional.html

    https://www.pumpsandsystems.com/topics/pumps/pumps/history-pumps-through-years

    And you do realize that Europeans had to rely on other groups of people to spark their own innovations, right?

    "The earliest known permanent settlement, which can be classified as urban, is Jericho from 8000–7000 B.C., located near springs and other bodies of water. In Egypt there are traces of wells, and in Mesopotamia of stone rainwater channels, from 3000 B.C.. From the early Bronze Age city of Mohenjo-Daro, located in modern Pakistan, archaeologists have found hundreds of ancient wells, water pipes and toilets. The first evidence of the purposeful construction of the water supply, bathrooms, toilets and drainage in Europe comes from Bronze Age Minoan (and Mycenaean) Crete in the second millennium B.C."

    https://www.iwapublishing.com/news/brief-history-water-and-health-ancient-civilizations-modern-times

    "The fact that the negro still uses or tries to use, the White man’s medicine..."

    You mean medicine developed by humans, or people. In reality, the development of medicine is a global thing, with modern inventions certainly attribute to the difference races. If you Google "history of medicinal plants", you will notice that African, Asians, and even Central/South Americans played an integral role here.

    Do you want to know more, citizen?

    "If blacks would have gone back to their tribal state leaving all modern technology behind, then they would have a point. But they enjoy the technology and modern medicine brought by Europeans, which shows they have benefited enormously."

    Absolutely. But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.
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  185. @Corvinus
    "Over the past few years I have had to modify my views on abortion. I am against most white abortion only. Black abortion is a positive event."

    Then you are a hypocrite on the value of human life. Congratulations.

    Then you are a hypocrite on the value of human life. Congratulations.

    There’s nothing “hypocritical” about stating forthrightly that you value white lives more highly than black lives.

    I think the word you were looking for is “inconsistent.”

    Well, so what? I guess I can say I consistently favor white lives over black lives. You will have a hard time morally shaming me over this, I can assure you.

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    "There’s nothing “hypocritical” about stating forthrightly that you value white lives more highly than black lives."

    Of course it is hypocritical. Either you value human life or you do not value human life. When picking which race ought to live or die, he or she is decidedly being hypocritical.
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  186. @Gene Su
    I'm going to split my response into several posts:

    Fred, you didn't once talk about Dylann Roof and the Charleston Church shooting. You had a golden opportunity to repeat a theme that you had in your earlier essays: that the mainstream media aggressively plays up race when dealing with white on black crime and downplays black on white crime. You could have talked about how the Charleston Church shooting got a cover page on Time magazine but the Tennessee Church shooting, done by an African immigrant, hardly made a ripple.

    “You could have talked about how the Charleston Church shooting got a cover page on Time magazine but the Tennessee Church shooting, done by an African immigrant, hardly made a ripple.” — Gene Su

    If Fred had brought up the Tennessee Church shooting, that would have led him to the Charleston Church shooting — which would have been an exception to his rule that blacks are all hostile toward whites:

    “blacks cannot compete with whites, Asians, or Latin-Americans. … This leaves them in an incurable state of resentment and thus hostility.” — Fred Reed

    What’s the problem with one minor exception? The problem is that we are here at Unz Review, and elsewhere in this country, in a ‘culture-war’ situation where we take our rules of engagement from the military: “Kill them all and let God sort them out.”

    It’s to be expected in a culture as militaristic as ours has become. As is common in the typical made-for-TV film or Netflix series, only a fool would give the other guy a chance or wait for him to draw …. and that leads to another one of our rules of engagement that are taught via the ultimate instructional tool of the screen: “Shoot first, by instinct, without hesitation.” Or, in the cop movies, when a rookie kills a suspect who actually was unarmed and harmless, the senior guys tell him, “It’s okay, you did what your training told you to do.”

    So that’s how we conduct dialog these days. We don’t worry about niceties like “except for the Christian folk in the black church in Charleston.” Those folks were just collateral damage as were the other Christian folk in Tennessee. So, Fred is just following the postmodern rules of discourse — like everybody else. And those rules follow the postmodern rules of engagement of real-life terrorism and firefights.

    Many have been noting that it may even be a racial characteristic to react instinctively, without reflection. Maybe so … and so what? And wasn’t that what the BLMers were demanding when they shouted down all the Democratic candidates, including Bernie Sanders, when those candidates attempted to make the point that “All lives matter.” Were not the BLMers saying that the Christian lives in the Tennessee church did not matter, and the Christian lives in the Charleston church, they did not matter as individual human beings taking a stand for peace but only as a few black people and only because they were black.

    That’s where culture war and identity politics. carried to their logical extremes, would take us: “Kill rhem all and let God sort them out.”

    There seems to be another possible direction, a kind of ‘third way’, for those brave enough to follow the martyrs, if need be: that is carrying religious faith to its logical extremes.

    As indicated at #67 by gustafus and as preached by Dr. James David Manning –

    https://www.facebook.com/drjamesdavidmanning/

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  187. @Corvinus
    "There is no nonblack nation, even among the most liberal ones, where the black man is dignified. History dealt us an unforgiving blow in the incursion of foreigners into black lands. The Arabs enslaved tribes and nations and then colonized and evangelized them. Then came the Europeans, who, persuaded the Africans were of an inferior race, divided up the continent over lunch in Berlin in 1884. They carted off a large population of its people — sometimes leaving entire villages almost empty — and brought those who remained on the continent under their rule. So complete was the transformation that no black nation retained its ancestral nationhood, national language, or national identity. And today we often hear of how China or India or some other nation is “taking over” Africa economically. There is almost no nation whose majority is of a different race that has not spat on the face of the black person, at one time or the other."

    Chigozie Obioma

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.

    Now, if you want to actually want to engage in debate, offer the metrics as to what constitutes "successful".

    Nationalism is a European invention. It is deceptive to claim African nations existed before whites arrived. Ghana alone has 12 languages n is only united by English. African societies mostly benefited from European colonial rule n the most prosperous ones are those areas where colonialism was most thorough. Still, the end of white rule often meant the end of stable government, like Liberia, Kenya, Congo, CAR, Zimbabwe.

    Lamenting the end of African culture, if one is honest, must also include ending illiteracy, poverty, famine, epidemics, slavery, perpetual war, genocide, n cannibalism, all endemic to many parts of Africa. While Europeans may have exploited some of these temporarily, by 1900 they had ended all of these. These are metrics of what is successful, at least in European culture.

    When they want to solve their problems, I notice African governments still consult European n American experts. Maybe they should stop trying to de-colonize n re-colonize.

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    "It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations."

    The fate of African nations in the context of those nations that were created post WWII decolonizaton. In other words, when Africans gained their freedom from their colonial masters.

    "It is deceptive to claim African nations existed before whites arrived."

    African nations as far as tribal groups controlling a vast swath of land and developing a civilization.

    "Ghana alone has 12 languages and is only united by English."

    Language is but one unifying aspect.

    "African societies mostly benefited from European colonial rule n the most prosperous ones are those areas where colonialism was most thorough. Still, the end of white rule often meant the end of stable government, like Liberia, Kenya, Congo, CAR, Zimbabwe."

    Remember, European nations created artificial boundaries in Africa and herded competing tribal groups into those confined areas, then selected one or two of these tribal groups to serve as underlings. When Africans gained their freedom from their white colonial masters in the 1950's and 1960's, it is other than surprising that ethnic and tribal tensions erupted given the fact Europeans had created the conditions for destabilization.

    "Lamenting the end of African culture, if one is honest, must also include ending illiteracy, poverty, famine, epidemics, slavery, perpetual war, genocide, n cannibalism, all endemic to many parts of Africa.

    No, those things were not "ended"; in fact, some of those things were either perpetuated by or temporarily resolved by Europeans.
    , @woodNfish
    I think you mean colonization, not nationalism which is simply tribalism at a higher level, and a natural part of being human, not a European invention. You are right that black Africa benefited from colonization. One only has to look at the facts to know it is true, and the descendants of black slaves brought to the West are better off than they ever would have been if they were still in Africa. The same cannot be said for black slaves taken to the ME or Asia where as in Africa, slavery still exists.
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  188. @Liberty Mike
    Do you have any evidence to support the implication that Latinos have, as a matter of fact, committed

    (a) the majority of Chicago's murders this year?

    (b) last year?

    (c) the year before?

    (d) more of Chicago's murders than blacks this year?

    (e) last year?

    (f) the year before?

    (g) Chicago's murders in a percentage greater than their percentage of the total population this year?

    (h) last year?

    (i) the year before?

    I didn’t claim they committed more murder, merely that they were present at two places that had significantly more murders.

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  189. Malla says:
    @Malla

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.
     

    More stupidity, whose proverb?

    This so called proverb supposes that Whites are the only people who have conquered other peoples and made them work for them. Everybody in the world did that including blacks did it to other blacks. That is what most empires are for.
    Also it should be White man finds the negro, installs a pump and keeps the negro to operate the pump thereby increasing productivity and thus increased standard of living for both Whites and negro. With it came modern education, modern healthcare, modern law and institutions, something superior to what the negro had in the past and very likely could not have attained on his own. Since it is the White man who invented the pump, the White man's role is much more essential than that of the negro, all he did was find the well, which the White man could have found out anyways.
    The fact that the negro still uses or tries to use, the White man's medicine and the White man's technology even after the White man left means he prefers using it as it is extremely beneficial to him. If blacks would have gone back to their tribal state leaving all modern technology behind, then they would have a point. But they enjoy the technology and modern medicine brought by Europeans, which shows they have benefited enormously.

    Using your own metric, one could say Steve Sailer, Heartiste, Brett Stevens, and John Derbyshire are also “very dangerous”, as they are the intellectual leaders of the (white) underclass by peddling sophistry like race realism and the social-sexual hierarchy.

    More stupid assumptions from an idiot with an agenda. Race realism is no sophistry and are facts. There is no proof whatsoever that their readership belong to the so called White underclass. The White underclass would have loved results which show Whites have IQs higher than North East Asians but that is obviously not the case in race realism.

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  190. @Rurik

    but still here we are today, and who has any good proposals for what is to be done?
     
    first things first..

    http://www.sbs.com.au/news/sites/sbs.com.au.news/files/a3520646-8312-4705-b41a-d080254e212d-ap17292757424924.jpg

    here's what the SJW are saying:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/09/what-it-will-take-for-president-trump-to-deport-millions-and-build-the-wall/?utm_term=.a01f75e8d622

    http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/020/395/takeyourhatespeechoutofthiscampus.gif

    Hi, Rurik!

    Cute work with images! Thanks, for your comment and also the link to WaPo article.

    WaPo was saying that Trump’s Wall would have propaganda value but would do nothing about the incoming masses.

    Exactly, and that’s why what I think makes sense is derb’s proposal, that starts with bringing allowable legal immigration down to absolute zero. My own suggestion would be to use RICO statutes to seize places like the kosher meat packing plant (and crank lab) in Iowa, in about 2004, remember? … seize all the assets that can be located and send the people back to Honduras or Israel, as the cases may be.

    … but we both know anything that makes sense has no chance in this gotterdammerung

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    My own suggestion would be to use RICO statutes to seize places like the kosher meat packing plant (and crank lab) in Iowa, in about 2004, remember? … seize all the assets that can be located and send the people back to Honduras or Israel, as the cases may be.
     
    you get my vote GC!
    , @MarkinLA
    It was actually Clinton who put the breaking of immigration laws under possible RICO type prosecutions. However, they are almost never used. When they do a huge fine is announced to the public that is later renegotiated by the DOJ for pennies on the dollar.

    One case was Mohawk Industries. As is typical, it was blamed on a "rogue employee" who told the illegals where to go to get their fake papers that Mohawk knew were fake. Because the law gave Mohawk cover if the employee had ANY documents the company could plead they were just following the law.
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  191. @Truth
    Hey! I'm glad you watched WhiteFolks! That was a free Game seminar for you, now Bro, please hit happy hour tomorrow after work and use what you've learned.

    Put them Hoez on PimpArrest.

    I need a flo-facing ho who mashin for the rations.

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  192. Malla says:
    @Dumbo
    Not all is IQ. Low IQ doesn't cause people to be violent, just dumb. The cause of violence in those populations is more likely high testosterone, or some gene linked to aggressive behavior, which perhaps helped them to survive on previous times. Pre-Columbian tribes were very violent, African tribes too. Whites and Asians can be violent too but they control it or organize it better and are more socially cooperative.

    People with high IQ are more likely to think about the long term consequences of their actions. Low IQ individuals will lash out, attack each other and end up in jail.
    One of the many reasons why shopkeepers in third world countries ripping off and cheating their customers is so common is because they do not care about their moral reputation in the long term, they rarely think about the customer not returning to their shop. They rip off their customers and gloat to themselves how cunning and smart they are. And thus third world hellholes remain third world hell holes and probably will remain so.

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    True. This was once described by a very high-ranking general in the South African army as blacks mostly thinking in two-dimensions rather than three-dimensions in most others
    , @Truth

    People with high IQ are more likely to think about the long term consequences of their actions.
    One of the many reasons why shopkeepers in third world countries ripping off and cheating their customers is so common is because they do not care about their moral reputation in the long term. They rip off their customers and gloat to themselves how cunning and smart they are.
     
    So Wall Street bankers are low IQ?
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  193. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    "It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations."

    Only if you believe leftist agitprop. Or smoke hellacious levels of weed. Probably many college leftist useful idiots do plenty of both, which is why this nonsense is so popular among those circles.

    I think this is most likely an attempt to hypocritically use the sarcasm Corvinus believes is forbidden by his religion. Fortunately for him, he has not succeeded.

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  194. anarchyst says:
    @Negrolphin Pool
    It's a tenuous argument that Detroit was irrevocably doomed by auto manufacturing's downturn - by the way, the Big Three still all have major presences in Detroit, afaik - when places like Rochester Hills and Gross Pointe Woods - the latter being literally adjacent to one of the worst ghettos in America, with a couple feet marking the transition from burnt out buildings and weeds in the sidewalk to manicured lawns and electronic gates - are among the most exclusive and pricey places in all of Michigan. Why is Gross Pointe Woods, with many of its mini-mansions a stone's throw from Detroit's shocking dereliction, a thriving community with some of the highest real estate values in the state?

    The same argument can be made for other towns in in the Detroit Metro Area and throughout Michigan, such as Grand Rapids, that were once heavily reliant on the automotive industry but successfully diversified and are booming today.

    I grew up in Detroit, and personally witnessed the destruction of a once-great city. There are a number of reasons for Detroit’s decline that have never been explored or discussed.
    1. “Blockbusting” by greedy real estate agents. Real estate agents would send out postcards with the following: “A new family is moving into your neighborhood. If you want to sell your house, please call me at xxx-xxxx”. A “new family” was a euphemism for black families, and was used to “encourage” whites to sell their homes.
    2. HUD (Housing and Urban Development) speculators and real estate hustlers conspired to buy up” and raze the best houses on every block, in certain sections of the city. Quite often, “shacks” were left standing while decent housing was purchased by HUD and razed. This was done purposely to depress property values, to make it easier for speculators to purchase properties at “bargain basement” prices.
    I realize that items 1 and 2 counteract each other and are at cross purposes, but they were a reality in 1960s Detroit.
    3. The 1967 riots did much to push whites out of Detroit. A little-known aspect of the Detroit riots was the application of spray-painted words on the exteriors of black-owned businesses. The words “soul brother” was spray-painted on businesses owned by blacks so that the “angels of death” (actually rioters) would spare them from destruction. Whole business districts around the city were destroyed, never to regain their former selves.
    4. The election of Coleman Alexander Young, Detroit’s first black mayor, who was overtly racist to Detroit’s white citizens while “getting along just fine” with the “movers and shakers” (big business people) of the day (as long as the campaign donations kept coming in)….
    5. The abolition of the STRESS (Stop The Robberies, Enjoy Safe Streets) program. This anti-criminal program was put in by mayor Young’s predecessor and was quite successful in “cleaning up the streets” of criminals. In this program, police officers would disguise themselves as vulnerable old people and walk through neighborhoods as “decoys”. Predatory criminals would attempt to rob these elderly citizens and quite often, were dispatched to “the great hereafter”. One of Young’s campaign promises was the abolition of the STRESS program as too many of “his people” were being eliminated. Upon the election of Young, the program was disbanded.
    These are 5 reasons for this once-great city’s demise.

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    4. The election of Coleman Alexander Young, Detroit’s first black mayor, who was overtly racist to Detroit’s white citizens
     
    don't forget his successor Kwame Kilpatrick

    http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Kwame_in_jail.jpg

    it isn't that places like Detroit or DC happen to have racist thug gangsters as their mayor, the problem is that the racist black denizens of these rat holes of corruption and graft, will always re-elect them as a way of expressing their racist hatred of white people and white society. I suppose it is very likely that if the black citizens of Detroit could vote for Kwame as mayor from his prison cell, they'd do so.

    yes, Detroit was hurt by the idiocy and greed of the auto executives and the idiocy and greed of the UAW

    but to top it off, Detroit became a black city, in part due to the overtly racist policies of the notoriously racist mayor Coleman Young, and now they're dealing with that legacy.

    , @joef
    An excellent summary of the decline of Detroit, slowly being replayed in all other rust belt, BosWash, and California cities. This national train is heading for the cliff, and all the wishful liberal thinking will not prevent it from going over, if we proceed in this most misguided direction. Get ready because Detroit, and Camden NJ is our future.
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  195. @Corvinus
    "It will prove beyond doubt about the massive Jewish influence on the slave trade. It was basically a Jewish thing."

    Not quite. Please educate yourself regarding the major criticisms of that book.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Relationship_Between_Blacks_and_Jews#Critical_reception

    Originally, Professor Martin made this claim —> “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent. So according to an analysis of the 1830 census by Jewish historians, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.”

    There are several problems here. First, the 1830 census did NOT specify slaveholders and their religious affiliation. Second, if one says rawly that “75 percent of Jewish households owned slaves, according to the 1830 census”, was the possession of slaves due to the fact of being Jew or being wealthy? One must delve into the number of Jewish families who were wealthy and owned slaves and who were wealthy and did not own slaves, and compare them to whites in the same two categories. Martin ought to have figures showing correlation of household wealth to slaveowner households and show that indeed Jewish households of the period tended to be be among wealthier households. It could just be a coincidental correspondence between economic status and slaveowner rather than religion and slaveowner. Third, Martin claims that this number came from Jewish historians, but from what particular source? Why should we automatically assume that this statistic is valid if Martin did not offer exactly where it came from and how it was generated, given that Jews are allegedly liars and thieves?

    Winthrop D. Jordan’s article in the Atlantic, “Slavery and the Jews" stated, “In order to assess such a claim, one must resort to details. Martin’s purported actuality [the 75% statistic] is wrong on its face if applied to the “white population” of the United States “as a whole,” because in 1830 only a handful of white northerners still owned slaves. Jews were concentrated in the North, and they constituted a very small minority there. Even if the statement is taken as applying only to the states in the American South that had not adopted gradual emancipation laws, it remains badly flawed. A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact. In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion. It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.”

    “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent.

    Jewish families appeared to “own” more slaves than non-Jewish families for the same reason used car lot owners appear to “own’ more cars than non-owners. Throughout the South in particular, businesses that specialized in the buying, selling, and swapping of slaves were nearly always owned and operated by Jews.

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    "Throughout the South in particular, businesses that specialized in the buying, selling, and swapping of slaves were nearly always owned and operated by Jews."

    Specific examples, please.
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  196. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Sin City Milla
    Maybe more than business violence. Mexican papers have an obsession with blood. Given the nature of the ancient religion, I've often wondered how deep the ancient values still run. Ritualistic murder in Mexico is well documented n tattooing was part of their religion. Maybe MS13 is a resurfacing of ancient practices.

    Since first cousin marriage has persisted for thousands of years in the mid east, I'm not as quick as some others to assume that ethnic groups can change their stripes like clothes.

    Papers everywhere have an obsession with blood.

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  197. bartok says:

    an incurable state of resentment and thus hostility.

    Here is a major error of Fred’s. Academic and life failure compared to their betters do not create the “incurable state” in blacks and mestizos. It’s communist policies and messages that do it.

    What is the natural response to academic and life failure? “You talk like a fag,” i.e. even if God could have made me a corny-ass cracker working in a ‘cubicle’ in an ‘office park’ wearing ‘business casual’, I would rather be me, a real nigga. The natural state of blacks and other low-IQ persons is: above-average self-esteem. If communists weren’t telling blacks and mestizos lies, the natural response is: if you gotta be a fuggin geek to make bank, fuck it.

    Communist subdivision, feminism: substitute Uncle Sam (a cuckold) for a husband and father by giving a ‘basic income’ to any black woman who can get knocked up, a ‘basic education’ to her children, and the more kids the more money. Alpha fucks, beta bucks in the form of Federal Reserve Notes from the source.

    Communist subdivision, subversion: foment racial strife as a component of the class struggle. This was a longtime theme of both KGB and US media communists. Out of habit, Russian propaganda still plays up US racial strife even though helping out the US left does not help Russia in the 21st century.

    Communist subdivision, democracy: one person, one vote, tax according to ability, spend according to need. Make work if necessary (government jobs with racial quotas).

    Back to Fred: his error regarding an “an incurable state” of natural resentment has a flip side. His various apologies for Mexicans have a theme: if Americans don’t pretend to like the Mexicans within our borders and don’t welcome infinitely many Mexicans, then we will cause resentment among Mexicans.

    Got that? Fred said that black resentment is natural and incurable, but Mexican resentment is unnatural and preventable if only the right-wing will censor our opinions about the mestizo menace. Fred can’t have it both ways, but he’ll try to, again and again.

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  198. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    It is simply mind boggling how far up their asses, white supremacist lunatics, aka wiggers, have their “superior” noggins.

    Reed the incorrigible douchist mentions homicide counts and the blacks who are involved in such crimes… thousands apparently.

    Wiggers have (and continue to) massacred millions in pursuit of their unquenchable greed. The term Psychopathy falls woefully short of truly describing their kind of mind sickness.

    Only in the completely twisted minds of wiggers can thousands (10′s of, even) be worse than millions.

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  199. @gp
    "Oh blessed inaccuracy. In poor marksmanship lies our hope." In Rockford, the thugs' gunfight of choice is car-to-car engagements. They know they have zero chance of hitting their intended targets. They do it to impress each other, for cred, for fun.

    "[Do black folk] help their kids with their homework?" Increase the American school year from 180 days to 240 days. Eliminate homework: all work done in school, no more excuses. Sixty more days a year the little monsters (of all races) are off the streets. Make the teachers work as many days a year as everybody else has to; they're getting very well compensated.

    One thing Fred didn't suggest was to build more prisons. We need to build lots more prisons, and we need to vehemently shame judges and parole boards whenever their stupid leniency gets people injured and killed.

    Increase the American school year from 180 days to 240 days. Eliminate homework: all work done in school, no more excuses.

    Sorry, but it won’t work. You can’t make oil absorb water no matter how long they’re left in contact with one another. The really sad part is that the oil ends up floating on top of the water supporting it. Which doesn’t seem quite fair, but that’s the way it is.

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  200. Corvinus says:
    @Malla

    Second, if one says rawly that “75 percent of Jewish households owned slaves, according to the 1830 census”, was the possession of slaves due to the fact of being Jew or being wealthy? One must delve into the number of Jewish families who were wealthy and owned slaves and who were wealthy and did not own slaves, and compare them to whites in the same two categories. Martin ought to have figures showing correlation of household wealth to slaveowner households and show that indeed Jewish households of the period tended to be be among wealthier households. It could just be a coincidental correspondence between economic status and slaveowner rather than religion and slaveowner. Third, Martin claims that this number came from Jewish historians, but from what particular source? Why should we automatically assume that this statistic is valid if Martin did not offer exactly where it came from and how it was generated, given that Jews are allegedly liars and thieves?
     
    What kind of dumb explanation is this? Jews were rich and owned slaves does not change the fact that they were still more likely to own slaves.

    Jews were concentrated in the North, and they constituted a very small minority there. Even if the statement is taken as applying only to the states in the American South that had not adopted gradual emancipation laws, it remains badly flawed. A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact. In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion.
     
    More dumb explanations and excuses to explain away Jewish participation in slave ownership. Jews were more urban and thus owned slaves does not change the fact that they were more likely to own slaves.

    “What kind of dumb explanation is this? Jews were rich and owned slaves does not change the fact that they were still more likely to own slaves.”

    “More dumb explanations and excuses to explain away Jewish participation in slave ownership. Jews were more urban and thus owned slaves does not change the fact that they were more likely to own slaves.”

    I see that you are becoming triggered by hate facts here. Calm down. Try to think rationally here.

    Example–From 1709-1807, there are 934 recorded voyages in which Rhode Island merchants were responsible for procuring 106,000 slaves. Now, Jews arrived in Newport as early as 1758. On the eve of the Revolution, they were estimated to be around thirty families. According to historical records historian Eli Faber used (e.g. naval office shipping lists, censuses, tax records) that identified merchants and planters as Jewish, there were 347 slave ships sent to Africa by Rhode Island slave traders from 1761-1774, with 21 being funded by Aaron Lopez, a Portuguese Jew. That means 326 voyages were underwritten by non-Jews during this time frame. Of course, Jews played a role in the peddling of human flesh. The extent in this particular case is nominal compared to other ethnic groups.

    Rather than saying things are “dumb”, you need to muster up your own statistics to counter the evidence I presented here.

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    So 6% of slaving voyages from Rhode Island were funded by Jews.

    If there were only 30 Jewish families in Rhode Island, then unless there were no more than 500 families in Rhode Island at the time Jews were overrepresented.

    How many families were there?
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  201. Corvinus says:
    @Malla

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.
     

    More stupidity, whose proverb?

    This so called proverb supposes that Whites are the only people who have conquered other peoples and made them work for them. Everybody in the world did that including blacks did it to other blacks. That is what most empires are for.
    Also it should be White man finds the negro, installs a pump and keeps the negro to operate the pump thereby increasing productivity and thus increased standard of living for both Whites and negro. With it came modern education, modern healthcare, modern law and institutions, something superior to what the negro had in the past and very likely could not have attained on his own. Since it is the White man who invented the pump, the White man's role is much more essential than that of the negro, all he did was find the well, which the White man could have found out anyways.
    The fact that the negro still uses or tries to use, the White man's medicine and the White man's technology even after the White man left means he prefers using it as it is extremely beneficial to him. If blacks would have gone back to their tribal state leaving all modern technology behind, then they would have a point. But they enjoy the technology and modern medicine brought by Europeans, which shows they have benefited enormously.

    “This so called proverb supposes that Whites are the only people who have conquered other peoples and made them work for them.”

    No, this proverb demonstrates that among all people who have conquered other peoples, white people have been more successful at it, and in the process have destroyed things in their wake.

    “Also it should be White man finds the negro, installs a pump and keeps the negro to operate the pump thereby increasing productivity and thus increased standard of living for both Whites and negro.”

    Through brute force. How is this use of violence consistent with the principle of freedom of association?

    “With it came modern education, modern healthcare, modern law and institutions, something superior to what the negro had in the past and very likely could not have attained on his own.”

    Undoubtedly those areas that were colonized received benefits, but it came at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    “Since it is the White man who invented the pump, the White man’s role is much more essential than that of the negro, all he did was find the well, which the White man could have found out anyways.”

    The first pump, albeit rudimentary, was actually developed by the Egyptians.

    http://www.waterencyclopedia.com/Po-Re/Pumps-Traditional.html

    https://www.pumpsandsystems.com/topics/pumps/pumps/history-pumps-through-years

    And you do realize that Europeans had to rely on other groups of people to spark their own innovations, right?

    “The earliest known permanent settlement, which can be classified as urban, is Jericho from 8000–7000 B.C., located near springs and other bodies of water. In Egypt there are traces of wells, and in Mesopotamia of stone rainwater channels, from 3000 B.C.. From the early Bronze Age city of Mohenjo-Daro, located in modern Pakistan, archaeologists have found hundreds of ancient wells, water pipes and toilets. The first evidence of the purposeful construction of the water supply, bathrooms, toilets and drainage in Europe comes from Bronze Age Minoan (and Mycenaean) Crete in the second millennium B.C.”

    https://www.iwapublishing.com/news/brief-history-water-and-health-ancient-civilizations-modern-times

    “The fact that the negro still uses or tries to use, the White man’s medicine…”

    You mean medicine developed by humans, or people. In reality, the development of medicine is a global thing, with modern inventions certainly attribute to the difference races. If you Google “history of medicinal plants”, you will notice that African, Asians, and even Central/South Americans played an integral role here.

    Do you want to know more, citizen?

    “If blacks would have gone back to their tribal state leaving all modern technology behind, then they would have a point. But they enjoy the technology and modern medicine brought by Europeans, which shows they have benefited enormously.”

    Absolutely. But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.

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    Whoever achieved something in these fields, deserves praise, gratitude, and recognition, of whatever race or culture. But without white Europeans including the Greeks and Romans, the Persians, and certain Asians, we wouldn't have much. Doesn't mean that people of their groups deserve to be mistreated, just that we shouldn't exaggerate their historical achievements and average abilities.

    Moreover, when it comes to achievements by ancient people in Egypt or the Mediterranean side of the Middle East in particular, they were likely not of the same racial stock as most current inhabitants of those areas. They were often akin to current white Europeans.
    , @Malla

    You mean medicine developed by humans, or people. In reality, the development of medicine is a global thing, with modern inventions certainly attribute to the difference races. If you Google “history of medicinal plants”, you will notice that African, Asians, and even Central/South Americans played an integral role here.
     
    Yeah I agree, populations throughout the world including medieval Europeans had a good knowledge of medicinal plants. Even African witch doctors had quite a lot of knowledge of medicinal herbs, no denying that. BUT there is no denying that modern medicine and hygiene spread by Europeans has played the most major role in increasing lifespans, treating common diseases across the world. The population of the World started increasing exponentially exactly during the period of the spread of Western modern medicine throughout the world. Indeed billions of non Whites are alive today because of the invention of modern antibiotics like penicillin by the Scotsman Flemming.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming

    For example, India (the subcontinent) had a constant population of a 100 million for more than a thousand years until Europeans arrive and then the population of India starts increasing with contact with European medicine.

    India has an advanced system of traditional medicine called Ayurveda but even then we did not know that it is mosquitoes which were responsible for Malaria, a disease which had plagued people in India and other tropical areas for thousands of years. It took a British medical doctor (born in India), Ronald Ross to find this out, nobody else had even the clue about mosquitoes having anything to do with Malaria throughout the tropical world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Ross

    This new knowledge about mosquitoes could now be used to make strategies to reduce the effect of the disease on human populations.

    So even though most cultures had systems of medicine and all those systems of medicine are all valuable in their own right, it cannot be denied that modern medicine invented and spread by Europeans have played a big part in improving the lives of millions of non Whites around the world. It led to improvements in general health, increase lifespan and reduced child mortality to levels which their own traditional medicine could not achieve.
    , @Malla

    Absolutely. But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.
     
    What culture? Ghanians are still wearing their Kente cloth. The British left alone most of the tribes to follow their culture. The Ashanti tribal structure was left intact and their royal families are still present. Swazis still do their reed dance for their king and the people of Uganda are still performing their traditional dance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7tq8emKPII

    How have these cultures being destroyed, they are still here. Only difference is they are using modern technology such as cameras invented by the west to record it.

    These are Watusi of the Congo performing their traditional dance during European rule.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYj15BlzwP4

    Are the European authorities stopping them?
    , @Malla

    How is this use of violence consistent with the principle of freedom of association?
     
    Has historically this principle been followed all the time. Did Shaka Zulu care about such said principles? Did Ghenghis Khan care about any such principle? When African tribes conquered neighbouring tribes, did they show a lot of concern about this principle you talk about when they dealt with the conquered tribe?
    , @Malla

    But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.
     
    More examples destruction of darkie cultures by evil colonial YTs.

    1] The British government in India start a college in 1824 to preserve ancient Sanskrit and Pali literature of India.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sanskrit_College_and_University
    Sanskrit College and University (erstwhile Sanskrit College) is a specialized state-government administered Liberal Arts University offering an undergraduate degree in Sanskrit language, Pali language, Linguistics and ancient Indian and world history.[1][2] It is one of the affiliated colleges of the University of Calcutta. Founded on 1 January 1824, Sanskrit College, is one of the oldest educational institutions in the subcontinent.[3] It is a traditional college that specializes in the scholarship of Indian tradition, philosophy and religion. It is located on College Street in central Kolkata. Its centrality is heightened by its proximity to Hindu School, Presidency College, Kolkata, the University of Calcutta, and the Indian Coffee House. It was established during the Governor-Generalship of Lord Amherst, based on a recommendation by HT James Prinsep and Thomas Babington Macaulay among others.


    2] Now some background info: Somnath temple one of the most famous and richest temples of Ancient India was looted by Mohmud of Gazni of Afghanistan. What do the evil colonial YT Brits do to further destroy the Indian culture?

    Well, The British also got back the gates of Somnath Temple back to India which was looted by the Afghans, Oh the horror

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somnath_temple
    In 1782-83 AD, Maratha king Mahadaji Shinde, victoriously brought back three silver gates from Lahore after defeating Mahmud Shah Abdati, to Somnath. After refusal from priests of Gujarat and the then ruler Gaekwad to put them back on Somnath temple, these silver gates were placed in the temples of Ujjain. Today they can be seen in two temples of India, Mahakaleshwar Jyotirlinga and Gopal Mandir of Ujjain.[33][34][35] In 1842, Edward Law, 1st Earl of Ellenborough issued his the Proclamation of the Gates, in which he ordered the British army in Afghanistan to return via Ghazni and bring back to India the sandalwood gates from the tomb of Mahmud of Ghazni in Ghazni, Afghanistan. These were believed to have been taken by Mahmud from Somnath. There was a debate in the House of Commons in London in 1843 on the question of the gates of the temple.[36][37] After much crossfire between the British Government and the opposition, the gates were uprooted and brought back in triumph.

    Destruction of darkie culture, yeah rite

    3] An act passed by the British Indian government in 1904

    Ancient Monuments Preservation Act 1904
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Monuments_Preservation_Act_1904
    The Ancient Monuments Preservation Act, 1904 was passed in 18, March 1904 by British India during the times of Lord Curzon. it is expedient to provide for the preservation of ancient monuments, for the exercise of control over traffic in antiquities and over excavation in certain places, and for the protection and acquisition in certain cases of ancient monuments and of objects of archaeological, historical or artistic interest. Act preserves and restores ancient Indian monuments by Archaeological Survey of India.

    Destruction of culture??

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  202. Corvinus says:
    @Carroll Price

    “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent.
     
    Jewish families appeared to "own" more slaves than non-Jewish families for the same reason used car lot owners appear to "own' more cars than non-owners. Throughout the South in particular, businesses that specialized in the buying, selling, and swapping of slaves were nearly always owned and operated by Jews.

    “Throughout the South in particular, businesses that specialized in the buying, selling, and swapping of slaves were nearly always owned and operated by Jews.”

    Specific examples, please.

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    Specific examples to the contrary, please.
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  203. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Corvinus
    "The statement is so obviously true, until it needs no explanation."

    Apparently you lack the intellectual horsepower to offer an explanation as to the meaning of "Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.”

    It's OK to be white, but not white and stupid.

    Your bias against the mentally challenged is duly noted.

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  204. woodNfish says:

    We already have these areas in Chicago (600 murders this year), Baltimore (300 murders this year), watts in LA which has never recovered from the rioting blacks who destroyed their own neighborhood, and too many more to mention. As I have written many tines blacks are their own worse problem, and only they can solve it. I am not interested in trying to help them anymore in any way. Their problem is genetic.

    I am all for racially distinct communities. It is a natural human desire to be with one’s own kind. And blacks will always be black and mostly uncivilized.

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  205. @Anonymouse
    Recently visited NYC staying in Riverside accessible by pricey Metroliner from midtown and also accessible by subway. So I took the subway. I also took the A train subway to JFK airport and to check out Broad Channel housing. Yes, the subway is where one can check out the deportment of groups of black kids and likewise groups of white underclass kids. Loud, yes, but IMHO sufficiently domesticated by NYC schools to maintain acceptable behavior standards when on the subway and posing no threat to others. Of course this is merely anecdotal but suggestive. I suggest that the takeaway from this "evidence" is that it is easy to exaggerate and stereotype black behavior. I have a public library recall for Scoreboard, Baby and look forward to the vicarious pleasure of reading about bad behavior of black university athletes.. Public behavior in America historically has been raucous and riotous. As the majority white Americans grew more civilized, American negroes enfranchised post the Civil Rights '60s are keeping up the old American wildness. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Germany came to Kentucky when 14 years old. He told me he was quite taken aback by the rough behavior of American kids compared to behavior of German kids. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Greece reported how impressed he was by the way American kids could self-organize, playing sports where the individual team members could seamless change teams and automatically correlate with their new teammates. In Greece, he said, team play would immediately collapse in unresolvable argument about the outcome of each play. When it comes to politico-ideological viewpoints, it is easy to succumb to exaggeration.

    My experience on trains with African youths – previously in NJ, Chicago, Ohio, Baltimore, and D.C., and now in LA – been almost uniformly unpleasant, annoying, loud, rude, vulgar, stupid, frequently glaring or mocking, and occasionally menacing.

    Numerous times I have been intentionally “shouldered” by young African men AND WOMEN who want to show their power and their disrespect for me – not just brushing past and making incidental contact as anyone often must in a crowd, but forcefully shouldered and pushed backwards, sometimes when it was not crowded.

    Same for my friend who has lived in Brooklyn for almost twenty years as an adult and in NYC much of his young life before that. As a teenager in the 80s, he was attacked, robbed, beaten, spit on, and mocked while he was lying helpless on the train car floor, by a group of African “Americans.” One nearby African passenger, an adult, laughed as he was attacked and spit on.

    You are either simply lucky thus far, or shading the truth. And certainly you are making excuses for Africans that are unconvincing and terribly naive.

    The fact that many white kids are falling down to the African level of intimidation, rudeness, vulgarity, moronic behavior, is readily observable. But there is still a large systematic difference between two groups in typical average behavior, and the seemingly worsening behavior of white kids is no excuse for the already atrocious and worse behavior of the majority of African kids and teens, and adults for that matter.

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  206. Corvinus says:
    @Sin City Milla
    Nationalism is a European invention. It is deceptive to claim African nations existed before whites arrived. Ghana alone has 12 languages n is only united by English. African societies mostly benefited from European colonial rule n the most prosperous ones are those areas where colonialism was most thorough. Still, the end of white rule often meant the end of stable government, like Liberia, Kenya, Congo, CAR, Zimbabwe.

    Lamenting the end of African culture, if one is honest, must also include ending illiteracy, poverty, famine, epidemics, slavery, perpetual war, genocide, n cannibalism, all endemic to many parts of Africa. While Europeans may have exploited some of these temporarily, by 1900 they had ended all of these. These are metrics of what is successful, at least in European culture.

    When they want to solve their problems, I notice African governments still consult European n American experts. Maybe they should stop trying to de-colonize n re-colonize.

    “It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.”

    The fate of African nations in the context of those nations that were created post WWII decolonizaton. In other words, when Africans gained their freedom from their colonial masters.

    “It is deceptive to claim African nations existed before whites arrived.”

    African nations as far as tribal groups controlling a vast swath of land and developing a civilization.

    “Ghana alone has 12 languages and is only united by English.”

    Language is but one unifying aspect.

    “African societies mostly benefited from European colonial rule n the most prosperous ones are those areas where colonialism was most thorough. Still, the end of white rule often meant the end of stable government, like Liberia, Kenya, Congo, CAR, Zimbabwe.”

    Remember, European nations created artificial boundaries in Africa and herded competing tribal groups into those confined areas, then selected one or two of these tribal groups to serve as underlings. When Africans gained their freedom from their white colonial masters in the 1950′s and 1960′s, it is other than surprising that ethnic and tribal tensions erupted given the fact Europeans had created the conditions for destabilization.

    “Lamenting the end of African culture, if one is honest, must also include ending illiteracy, poverty, famine, epidemics, slavery, perpetual war, genocide, n cannibalism, all endemic to many parts of Africa.

    No, those things were not “ended”; in fact, some of those things were either perpetuated by or temporarily resolved by Europeans.

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    Remember, European nations created artificial boundaries in Africa and herded competing tribal groups into those confined areas, then selected one or two of these tribal groups to serve as underlings. When Africans gained their freedom from their white colonial masters in the 1950′s and 1960′s, it is other than surprising that ethnic and tribal tensions erupted given the fact Europeans had created the conditions for destabilization.
     
    That is rubbish, no conditions were created for their destabilization. It is true that the division of Africa by European powers had divided tribes first by imperial boundaries and next by national boundaries after independence, no doubt that did cause problems and still do. Many African nations share ethnic groups across borders. But claiming that all Africans were living peacefully before Europeans arrived is just wishful thinking. Indeed the European empires like all empires brought peace and stability to these places. Either under Pax Britainnia or Pax Francia or Pax Lusophonia or other. No longer were the Zulus and Xhosas fighting each other, nor were Zulus fighting Boers. The Ashantis terrorized their neighbours so much that members of other tribes had built an African Venice like village in a lake to escape them. Not anymore, under Pax Britannia, no more inter tribal wars. No more Dahomey braves attacking their neighbouring tribes and terrorizing them under Pax Francia. There was peace.
    , @MarkinLA
    Remember, European nations created artificial boundaries in Africa and herded competing tribal groups into those confined areas, then selected one or two of these tribal groups to serve as underlings. When Africans gained their freedom from their white colonial masters in the 1950′s and 1960′s, it is other than surprising that ethnic and tribal tensions erupted given the fact Europeans had created the conditions for destabilization.

    Give it a rest already. When the colonial period ended there was nothing stopping the African nations from convening a Pan-African conference and redrawing all borders along traditional tribal boundaries.
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  207. Corvinus says:
    @silviosilver

    Then you are a hypocrite on the value of human life. Congratulations.
     
    There's nothing "hypocritical" about stating forthrightly that you value white lives more highly than black lives.

    I think the word you were looking for is "inconsistent."

    Well, so what? I guess I can say I consistently favor white lives over black lives. You will have a hard time morally shaming me over this, I can assure you.

    “There’s nothing “hypocritical” about stating forthrightly that you value white lives more highly than black lives.”

    Of course it is hypocritical. Either you value human life or you do not value human life. When picking which race ought to live or die, he or she is decidedly being hypocritical.

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    Of course it is hypocritical. Either you value human life or you do not value human life. When picking which race ought to live or die, he or she is decidedly being hypocritical.
     
    I generally agree with your ethic of life, however that does not exclude the right of defending one's own life, the ones he cares about, and other innocents. Our disagreement is that many of us Non Blacks believe (supported by a great amount of actual personal experiences) that it is in fact afros who do not value human life, and commit acts of homicide against others, that is way out of proportion to other categorical groups of people (which a preponderance of the evidence available reasonably supports such a conclusion). The liberal answer to this is to refute the experience as non existent (as if that will make those memories disappear), but as the victims increase (because the integration of aggressive afros is becoming an ubiquitous presence to Non Blacks), this will become harder to deny.
    Those who speak of not valuing afro lives is a reaction to the constant threat of afro aggression, and if that was not occurring, they would probably have less incentive to do so.
    , @silviosilver
    Are you really this stupid or are you just pretending?

    I never claimed to value all human life. I said straight up I value white life more than I value black life. (I also value my mother's life much more than I do your mother's.) So there's no hypocrisy here.

    When picking which race ought to live or die, he or she is decidedly being hypocritical.
     
    Sigh.

    "Valuing life" does not mean the same thing as "picking which race ought to live or die." Lol.

    I care more about what happens to whites than I care about what happens to blacks. I'm not out to get blacks. I'm just indifferent to their fate. Merely prospective white suffering disturbs me; whereas even actual black suffering doesn't move me much at all.

    Does this bother you? Choke on it.
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  208. @joef

    I’ve lived in NYC for my entire adult life, since 1988, and I find it hard to believe you’ve lived in Harlem for 40 years and seen no violence or dysfunction. To be honest, I think your full of it.
     
    Yes, a person who advances an obvious falsehood, in an attempt to convince others with his fake propaganda, should not be trusted. I remember around 1990 when Harlem was described by a news source as the most violent square mile in America. It is amazing how libs & leftist even ignore the Black victims of afro violent crime. I bet he didn't see the ubiquitous public urination, and the one story trash piles between alleyways of buildings either, because the residents were too lazy to put it in a trash can (and then blamed the White man for it). When the rest of America stops tolerating the intolerable (which will eventually be forced by our major economic decline), it will not go well for the afros. But they have no one to blame but themselves, for they chose their course of action against us.

    “It is amazing how libs & leftists even ignore the Black victims of afro violent crime.”

    True, but there is a reason. If they played up black on black crime, they would have to show the black perps and that won’t do.

    A similar dynamic applies with black on white crime. You hear complaints that “murdered pretty white girls” get too much attention. Well, white girl victims get big publicity when their killer looks like Joran van der Sloot or Scott Peterson.

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  209. Corvinus says:
    @Tulip Bulb Millionaire
    Oh, so you believe in freedom of association? Good on you. So you must support the freedom of whites to associate with those they wish to, even if it's limited to others of their race. Please start speaking out against forced integration.

    “So you must support the freedom of whites to associate with those they wish to, even if it’s limited to others of their race.”

    Depends upon what is being limited. For example, assume that I live in an all-white neighborhood, but I choose to sell my house–my property–to a non-white person. That is my freedom of association to enable that family to move in if they are willing to pay me what I am asking for. Furthermore, unfettered freedom of association is dead–thanks to the Southrons who couldn’t even abide by the “separate but equal” decision in the Plessy case.

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  210. woodNfish says:
    @Sin City Milla
    Nationalism is a European invention. It is deceptive to claim African nations existed before whites arrived. Ghana alone has 12 languages n is only united by English. African societies mostly benefited from European colonial rule n the most prosperous ones are those areas where colonialism was most thorough. Still, the end of white rule often meant the end of stable government, like Liberia, Kenya, Congo, CAR, Zimbabwe.

    Lamenting the end of African culture, if one is honest, must also include ending illiteracy, poverty, famine, epidemics, slavery, perpetual war, genocide, n cannibalism, all endemic to many parts of Africa. While Europeans may have exploited some of these temporarily, by 1900 they had ended all of these. These are metrics of what is successful, at least in European culture.

    When they want to solve their problems, I notice African governments still consult European n American experts. Maybe they should stop trying to de-colonize n re-colonize.

    I think you mean colonization, not nationalism which is simply tribalism at a higher level, and a natural part of being human, not a European invention. You are right that black Africa benefited from colonization. One only has to look at the facts to know it is true, and the descendants of black slaves brought to the West are better off than they ever would have been if they were still in Africa. The same cannot be said for black slaves taken to the ME or Asia where as in Africa, slavery still exists.

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  211. Chip ‘em and ship ‘em!

    Implant a non-removable tracking device — so they cannot EVER return to the White Western world — and give them each … say … $30k and send them back to their homelands. WAY cheaper than continuing on; and MAY save us all!

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    But even if you chip them, the women will have 10 kids each and they'll all find their way to the Lands of the Freebies.

    So even your solution - - which will never be implemented because it's so harsh - - isn't remotely harsh enough to work.

    The only solution is enforced birth control of those who continue to have children they can not and will not care for.

    This, also, will never happen. We are not even rearranging the deck chairs at this point.
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  212. woodNfish says:

    No, I am honest. I have never claimed that all human lives have the same value or any value, and if you claim that you do, then you are a liar. Do you think Hitler should have been executed? How about Polpot, Stalin, Mao, or Mugabe, Or the murderer on death row? I also don’t beleive in universal human rights. Some people are so disposable they deserve only to be immediately disposed of.

    I’m not inconsistent either as Silvio stated in his reply. Nothing is black and white, there are always subtleties and shades of grey. And as a thoughtful person who learns from experience and thoughtful commenters, I sometimes change my mind or modify my thinking about a particular issue, such as abortion.

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  213. @Corvinus
    "This so called proverb supposes that Whites are the only people who have conquered other peoples and made them work for them."

    No, this proverb demonstrates that among all people who have conquered other peoples, white people have been more successful at it, and in the process have destroyed things in their wake.

    "Also it should be White man finds the negro, installs a pump and keeps the negro to operate the pump thereby increasing productivity and thus increased standard of living for both Whites and negro."

    Through brute force. How is this use of violence consistent with the principle of freedom of association?

    "With it came modern education, modern healthcare, modern law and institutions, something superior to what the negro had in the past and very likely could not have attained on his own."

    Undoubtedly those areas that were colonized received benefits, but it came at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    "Since it is the White man who invented the pump, the White man’s role is much more essential than that of the negro, all he did was find the well, which the White man could have found out anyways."

    The first pump, albeit rudimentary, was actually developed by the Egyptians.

    http://www.waterencyclopedia.com/Po-Re/Pumps-Traditional.html

    https://www.pumpsandsystems.com/topics/pumps/pumps/history-pumps-through-years

    And you do realize that Europeans had to rely on other groups of people to spark their own innovations, right?

    "The earliest known permanent settlement, which can be classified as urban, is Jericho from 8000–7000 B.C., located near springs and other bodies of water. In Egypt there are traces of wells, and in Mesopotamia of stone rainwater channels, from 3000 B.C.. From the early Bronze Age city of Mohenjo-Daro, located in modern Pakistan, archaeologists have found hundreds of ancient wells, water pipes and toilets. The first evidence of the purposeful construction of the water supply, bathrooms, toilets and drainage in Europe comes from Bronze Age Minoan (and Mycenaean) Crete in the second millennium B.C."

    https://www.iwapublishing.com/news/brief-history-water-and-health-ancient-civilizations-modern-times

    "The fact that the negro still uses or tries to use, the White man’s medicine..."

    You mean medicine developed by humans, or people. In reality, the development of medicine is a global thing, with modern inventions certainly attribute to the difference races. If you Google "history of medicinal plants", you will notice that African, Asians, and even Central/South Americans played an integral role here.

    Do you want to know more, citizen?

    "If blacks would have gone back to their tribal state leaving all modern technology behind, then they would have a point. But they enjoy the technology and modern medicine brought by Europeans, which shows they have benefited enormously."

    Absolutely. But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    Whoever achieved something in these fields, deserves praise, gratitude, and recognition, of whatever race or culture. But without white Europeans including the Greeks and Romans, the Persians, and certain Asians, we wouldn’t have much. Doesn’t mean that people of their groups deserve to be mistreated, just that we shouldn’t exaggerate their historical achievements and average abilities.

    Moreover, when it comes to achievements by ancient people in Egypt or the Mediterranean side of the Middle East in particular, they were likely not of the same racial stock as most current inhabitants of those areas. They were often akin to current white Europeans.

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  214. joef says:
    @Truth

    One day we will no longer tolerate the intolerable, and the majority of afros have only themselves to blame. IF they do not want this outcome they should accept responsibility, stop hating without cause, and change their ways now
     
    Once again, Joey, why let someone else get all of the credit?

    I nominate YOU, to grab the AK-47 and the Brass knuckles and lead your people to their bloody victory, Moses!

    1st : Because unlike criminal minded afros, most of us do not attack. Instead we defend ourselves against the afros who are typically the primary aggressors (I know that is a shock to you, because today libs demand that we all should be willing victims to unprovoked afro aggression, but there are still those among us who will take a stand against it, I think you would label such self defense as a hate crime) …

    2nd: As I said to you before, many Whites have become limo liberal wimps, more enamored with stylish afro worship than protecting themselves.

    3rd: If you carefully read what I have been saying in the past: I have no romantic notions about the pending failed state afro initiated race war; because many innocents will suffer from this (which includes many non afro thug Black people); the suffering from the resultant scarcity will be severe, if and when, this happens. Being ready for what is almost inevitable, is not the same as wanting it to happen.

    4th: It is afro initiated aggressive behavior, and constant parasitical demands for more & more unearned benefits, that is pushing for this; not most Non Blacks who want to peacefully go about their own business. In other words, afros are the cause, the response of Non Blacks protecting themselves are the effect (that is called a logical progression).

    5th: Why do you enablers of afro aggression (Blacks like yourself, leftist, and naive libs) always try to convince other Non Blacks who have already accumulated a lifetime worth of negative interactions/observations with afros… you must know that is an exercise in futility to get us to deny our own massive amount of bad experiences. You would be much better off trying to convince a pathologically naive White person, who has had very limited contact with dysfunctional afro culture; They are extremely eager to worship afros ad nauseam, so they can be in the contemporary vogue of the times, and brag to other naive libs how opened minded they are. You are wasting your time with the rest of us… we already know how destructively savage afros can be.

    6th: Maybe you should be leading the charge of afro reform to become better socially adjusted productive people, so Non Blacks will stop having negative opinions of them, and we won’t end up becoming a failed state, with a resultant afro initiated race war (which they will lose)… probably not, afros will probably never let go of their racial animosity (but one can hope).

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    1st : Because unlike criminal minded afros, most of us do not attack
     
    Attila the Hun, Napoleon, Hitler, Custer...

    2nd: As I said to you before, many Whites have become limo liberal wimps, more enamored with stylish afro worship than protecting themselves.
     

    At some point, Big, Joe, a man who is speaking in general terms, must decide, to what degree he is describing himself...

    3rd: If you carefully read what I have been saying in the past: I have no romantic notions about the pending failed state afro initiated race war; because many innocents will suffer from this (which includes many non afro thug Black people);
     
    But every Edomite on this board has 37 stories about how they were "on there way home from chuch wearing a tuxedo and 14 Negros stopped him and raped his girlfriend (and him) in the Keister!!!! Oh it was terrible!" So "innocents" are suffering now. What do you have to lose?

    4th: It is afro initiated aggressive behavior, and constant parasitical demands for more & more unearned benefits, that is pushing for this; not most Non Blacks who want to peacefully go about their own business.
     
    OK, we've covered this, Israelites are Satan's Spawn, Edomites are Godly beings who have wings and halos. I get it. The question is, what are YOU going to do to change it?

    5th: Why do you enablers of afro aggression (Blacks like yourself, leftist, and naive libs) always try to convince other Non Blacks who have already accumulated a lifetime worth of negative interactions/observations with afros… you must know that is an exercise in futility
     

    There is a mass misconception going on on this board that I am trying to convince anyone of anything. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    I am on this board for one reason; to make jokes!
    See Joe, this board is funny as hell as are you and the other posters. Occasionally I will put in something poignant, but generally I realize that is a great waste of my time, you know, the proverbial lipstick and pig. For if you can't see a cause and effect to the way race relations are now, there really is no hope for you. It is incredibly simple if you have any sort of a brain. You see, for 400 years "you" have been beating, conning, stealing from, murdering, raping and all in all disparaging white people, now for the last 40 years or so, we've given you back %0.001 of what we received. And you know what, I don't hold it against any of you. You did what you did, live moves on. But it's a little like a see-saw it goes up, and down until a measure of equality is reached.


    6th: Maybe you should be leading the charge of afro reform to become better socially adjusted productive people,
     
    Again Joe, you misunderstand: I'm not a social worker, I'm a COMEDIAN! Al and Jessie can have all that hassle. I will just continue to make jokes.You see Joe, as your boy Clint Eastwood once said; "a man's got to know his limitations." I am roughly the same way around black folks that I am here...and receive the same feedback. But occasionally, if you get with the "Truth" process and stop lying to yourself, black or white, you will become a better man.
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  215. @KenH

    The problem does lie essentially in the schools. More discipline in the schools – something the Obama admijnistration virtually eliminated – would solve a lot of problems.
     
    Oh boy do you have rose colored glasses. If you impose discipline in the schools and make blacks meet the same standards as whites that is racist and blacks will raise hell like always. So whites move away and build new schools until the blacks follow them and the process starts over again. Besides, there is intense peer pressure in the black community to be a gangsta and thug. Acting respectable is selling out to whitey. Most black men have no fathers and that's not going to change.

    You act like pre-Obama murica had few racial problems and that black violence, dysfunction and indiscipline only resulted from eight years of his presidency.

    Separation is the only answer.

    Standards of disc ipline in the schools have been on the decline since the early 1970s but Obama ‘s administration was responsible for “disparate impact”

    If we dumped “disparate impact”, stopped giving into the demands of race hustlers, got rid of affirmative action, returned to color-blind standards, and punished illegitimacy, that would help solve the problem.

    The minute we stop rewarding deviant black underclass behavior and demands we will get less deviant black underclass behavior.

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    Sorry, won't work. It would be contingent on having a white majority nationwide and in cities to enforce those standards. Besides, about 40% of whites would resist any measures as "racist".

    You're still clinging to old conservative wishful thinking and paradigms of "one standard to rule them all". How will you impose discipline in black controlled Detroit, Trenton, NE, Gary, IN and E. St Louis, IL?

    It's time to adapt to the new reality that integration does not work unless by brute government force and even then work must be put in parenthesis.

    Blacks will never clean up their act and step up their game and become almost white in their life performances. Again, it's time to racially separate and go our own way.

    Once blacks are forced to fend for themselves their death rates will skyrocket and their birth rates will implode. Heartless I know, but it's time to let nature go back to work.
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  216. KenH says:

    Sorry, won’t work. It would be contingent on having a white supermajority nationwide and in cities to enforce those standards. Besides, about 40% of whites would resist any measures as “racist”. Jews would use their immense political power to thwart any initiatives.

    You’re still clinging to old conservative wishful thinking and paradigms of “one standard to rule them all”. How will you impose discipline in black controlled Detroit, Trenton, NE, Gary, IN and E. St Louis, IL?

    It’s time to adapt to the new reality that integration does not work unless by brute government force and even then work must be put in parenthesis.

    Blacks will never clean up their act and step up their game and become almost white in their life performances. Again, it’s time to racially separate and go our own way.

    Once blacks are forced to fend for themselves their death rates will skyrocket and their birth rates will implode. Heartless I know, but it’s time to let nature go back to work.

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    It's a lot more likely than any sort of racial separation/segregation. We're too mixed now for that to ever work You're still clinging to old school Jim Crowism and Plessy v. Ferguson thinking, but those sort of policies created the mess we're in now.

    If dysfunction is no longer subsidized we will have much less of it. As with anything else.

    As for Gary and East St. Louis those are dying cities that are beyond saving. Even Detroir is salvageable but Gary and ESL are not. They will just continue to lose population until they are completely abandoned.
    , @Okechukwu

    Again, it’s time to racially separate and go our own way.
     
    Plenty of rural areas you can move to where there are very few black people. I've been to some of these areas and, frankly, I don't understand why anyone would want to live there. But the natives seem perfectly contented. So knock yourself out.

    Once blacks are forced to fend for themselves their death rates will skyrocket and their birth rates will implode. Heartless I know, but it’s time to let nature go back to work.
     
    Seriously, do you really believe this junk? Actually, for someone like me this is hilarious. I fend for myself just fine. In fact whites come to me for help, including the dozens I employ who depend on me to feed their kids and pay their mortgage.

    Okay, you'd better get back to the drawing board.
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  217. Malla says:
    @Corvinus
    "This so called proverb supposes that Whites are the only people who have conquered other peoples and made them work for them."

    No, this proverb demonstrates that among all people who have conquered other peoples, white people have been more successful at it, and in the process have destroyed things in their wake.

    "Also it should be White man finds the negro, installs a pump and keeps the negro to operate the pump thereby increasing productivity and thus increased standard of living for both Whites and negro."

    Through brute force. How is this use of violence consistent with the principle of freedom of association?

    "With it came modern education, modern healthcare, modern law and institutions, something superior to what the negro had in the past and very likely could not have attained on his own."

    Undoubtedly those areas that were colonized received benefits, but it came at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    "Since it is the White man who invented the pump, the White man’s role is much more essential than that of the negro, all he did was find the well, which the White man could have found out anyways."

    The first pump, albeit rudimentary, was actually developed by the Egyptians.

    http://www.waterencyclopedia.com/Po-Re/Pumps-Traditional.html

    https://www.pumpsandsystems.com/topics/pumps/pumps/history-pumps-through-years

    And you do realize that Europeans had to rely on other groups of people to spark their own innovations, right?

    "The earliest known permanent settlement, which can be classified as urban, is Jericho from 8000–7000 B.C., located near springs and other bodies of water. In Egypt there are traces of wells, and in Mesopotamia of stone rainwater channels, from 3000 B.C.. From the early Bronze Age city of Mohenjo-Daro, located in modern Pakistan, archaeologists have found hundreds of ancient wells, water pipes and toilets. The first evidence of the purposeful construction of the water supply, bathrooms, toilets and drainage in Europe comes from Bronze Age Minoan (and Mycenaean) Crete in the second millennium B.C."

    https://www.iwapublishing.com/news/brief-history-water-and-health-ancient-civilizations-modern-times

    "The fact that the negro still uses or tries to use, the White man’s medicine..."

    You mean medicine developed by humans, or people. In reality, the development of medicine is a global thing, with modern inventions certainly attribute to the difference races. If you Google "history of medicinal plants", you will notice that African, Asians, and even Central/South Americans played an integral role here.

    Do you want to know more, citizen?

    "If blacks would have gone back to their tribal state leaving all modern technology behind, then they would have a point. But they enjoy the technology and modern medicine brought by Europeans, which shows they have benefited enormously."

    Absolutely. But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    You mean medicine developed by humans, or people. In reality, the development of medicine is a global thing, with modern inventions certainly attribute to the difference races. If you Google “history of medicinal plants”, you will notice that African, Asians, and even Central/South Americans played an integral role here.

    Yeah I agree, populations throughout the world including medieval Europeans had a good knowledge of medicinal plants. Even African witch doctors had quite a lot of knowledge of medicinal herbs, no denying that. BUT there is no denying that modern medicine and hygiene spread by Europeans has played the most major role in increasing lifespans, treating common diseases across the world. The population of the World started increasing exponentially exactly during the period of the spread of Western modern medicine throughout the world. Indeed billions of non Whites are alive today because of the invention of modern antibiotics like penicillin by the Scotsman Flemming.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming

    For example, India (the subcontinent) had a constant population of a 100 million for more than a thousand years until Europeans arrive and then the population of India starts increasing with contact with European medicine.

    India has an advanced system of traditional medicine called Ayurveda but even then we did not know that it is mosquitoes which were responsible for Malaria, a disease which had plagued people in India and other tropical areas for thousands of years. It took a British medical doctor (born in India), Ronald Ross to find this out, nobody else had even the clue about mosquitoes having anything to do with Malaria throughout the tropical world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Ross

    This new knowledge about mosquitoes could now be used to make strategies to reduce the effect of the disease on human populations.

    So even though most cultures had systems of medicine and all those systems of medicine are all valuable in their own right, it cannot be denied that modern medicine invented and spread by Europeans have played a big part in improving the lives of millions of non Whites around the world. It led to improvements in general health, increase lifespan and reduced child mortality to levels which their own traditional medicine could not achieve.

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    But overpopulation -- particularly overpopulation in the third world -- is probably the worst problem on earth, and responsible for many of the others.

    Since European and American Medical Expertise is responsible for facilitating this overpopulation, perhaps it's not such a good thing after all.
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  218. @Hare Krishna
    In Los Aageles and Denver,yes, but not much in most of the other cities of the southwest to anywhere near the same amount. Not so much in San Diego, not so much in Phoenix, not so much in Tucson, not so much in Albuquerque, and definitely not in El Paso.

    Interesting to learn, HK. I have very little experience with those Arizona cities, and none with those Texas cities. As for Albuquerque, where I briefly lied, have friends, and have visited many times, aren’t there just mercifully few Africans in ABQ?

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    Not many blacks in AZ or NM. Phoenix has more than Tucson, though. Still, a lot fewer than LA, Denver, Vegas or the East Bay.

    While Texas has a large black population, El Paso's black population is tiny.

    Kinda proves Fred right.
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  219. MarkinLA says:
    @Simply Simon
    Item in today's sport page: West Point football coach having hard time recruiting football players. He interviewed several high school prospects and they admitted they had not heard of West Point. Can you imagine having a "student-athlete" playing for you who is so damn dumb he never heard of West Point? How in the world could he pass the entrance exams or hope to maintain passing grades in math courses. Is it just possible these potential military officers stay on at West Point, passing grades not withstanding , in order that this institution of higher learning can field a viable football team? The article did not mention the race of the high school prospects, but it would seem Blacks are the only ones capable of playing high level football if the teams we see in the NFL or major colleges are representative.

    If you remember that story about the hoax at the Air Force Academy, it talked about the incident happening at some kind of preparatory school associated with the AFA. I imagine all the military academies have them in order to meet their AA and football and basketball team requirements.

    You allow some totally unprepared kid a chance to enter the academy by taking remedial courses at these preparatory schools until you can pretend they are ready for the real academy. My guess is that these are kids who can’t even get a scholarship at a division 2 NCAA school.

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  220. Malla says:
    @Corvinus
    "This so called proverb supposes that Whites are the only people who have conquered other peoples and made them work for them."

    No, this proverb demonstrates that among all people who have conquered other peoples, white people have been more successful at it, and in the process have destroyed things in their wake.

    "Also it should be White man finds the negro, installs a pump and keeps the negro to operate the pump thereby increasing productivity and thus increased standard of living for both Whites and negro."

    Through brute force. How is this use of violence consistent with the principle of freedom of association?

    "With it came modern education, modern healthcare, modern law and institutions, something superior to what the negro had in the past and very likely could not have attained on his own."

    Undoubtedly those areas that were colonized received benefits, but it came at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    "Since it is the White man who invented the pump, the White man’s role is much more essential than that of the negro, all he did was find the well, which the White man could have found out anyways."

    The first pump, albeit rudimentary, was actually developed by the Egyptians.

    http://www.waterencyclopedia.com/Po-Re/Pumps-Traditional.html

    https://www.pumpsandsystems.com/topics/pumps/pumps/history-pumps-through-years

    And you do realize that Europeans had to rely on other groups of people to spark their own innovations, right?

    "The earliest known permanent settlement, which can be classified as urban, is Jericho from 8000–7000 B.C., located near springs and other bodies of water. In Egypt there are traces of wells, and in Mesopotamia of stone rainwater channels, from 3000 B.C.. From the early Bronze Age city of Mohenjo-Daro, located in modern Pakistan, archaeologists have found hundreds of ancient wells, water pipes and toilets. The first evidence of the purposeful construction of the water supply, bathrooms, toilets and drainage in Europe comes from Bronze Age Minoan (and Mycenaean) Crete in the second millennium B.C."

    https://www.iwapublishing.com/news/brief-history-water-and-health-ancient-civilizations-modern-times

    "The fact that the negro still uses or tries to use, the White man’s medicine..."

    You mean medicine developed by humans, or people. In reality, the development of medicine is a global thing, with modern inventions certainly attribute to the difference races. If you Google "history of medicinal plants", you will notice that African, Asians, and even Central/South Americans played an integral role here.

    Do you want to know more, citizen?

    "If blacks would have gone back to their tribal state leaving all modern technology behind, then they would have a point. But they enjoy the technology and modern medicine brought by Europeans, which shows they have benefited enormously."

    Absolutely. But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    Absolutely. But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    What culture? Ghanians are still wearing their Kente cloth. The British left alone most of the tribes to follow their culture. The Ashanti tribal structure was left intact and their royal families are still present. Swazis still do their reed dance for their king and the people of Uganda are still performing their traditional dance.

    How have these cultures being destroyed, they are still here. Only difference is they are using modern technology such as cameras invented by the west to record it.

    These are Watusi of the Congo performing their traditional dance during European rule.

    Are the European authorities stopping them?

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    About Europeans destruction of Non European culture, this is interesting. It refers to classical Indian music of the South, Carnatic music.

    From
    http://indianraga.blogspot.in/2007/10/british-raj-and-indian-classical-music.html

    British Raj and Indian Classical Music

    When you think of Carnatic music, you think of temples, music which has retained its pristine purity over the ages and something strongly South Indian. But Carnatic music like all Indian art forms has been open to various cultural influences from all over the country and across the seas. Strange as it may sound, the British Raj and its bands have left a firm imprint on this most traditional music form. Muthuswami Dikshitar and Thyagaraja, two of the most revered composers of Carnatic music, were certainly influenced by the strange tunes from the British.

    Perhaps the earliest innovation was the violin. This very Western instrument became part of the Carnatic music tradition when the family of composer Ramaswami Dikshitar moved from Tiruvarur to Madras in the 1790s. The five-year stay exposed brothers Muthuswami and Baluswami Dikshitars to the ‘airs’ that were being played by the Fort St George orchestra.

    Baluswami Dikshitar learnt to play the violin from an Englishman and introduced it to the Carnatic concert platform. Muthuswami Dikshitar composed around fifty verses in Sanskrit, based on the orchestra’s music. The most famous among these is ‘Santatam Pahi Mam Sangita Shyamale’ which is set to the same tune as ‘God Save The King’! Muthuswami Dikshitar’s contemporary, Thyagaraja, composed ‘Raminsuvar Evarura’ in the Raga Suposhini, which was clearly inspired by music that accompanies march pasts.

    His ‘Vara Lila Gana Lola’ in Raga Sankarabharanam, is also completely based on Western band tunes. Thyagaraja used words that had come into Telugu from English in some of his compositions. The usage of the word Landaru (from Lantern) in the kriti ‘Emi Jesite Nemi’ (Raga Todi) and Shalu (from Shawl) in the kriti ‘Jutamurare’ (Raga Arabhi) are examples.

    The British were not immune to the beauty of Carnatic music. We have instances of singers such as Maha Vaidyanatha Sivan being appreciated by British officials.

    Gopalakrishna Bharat’s Nandan Charitram moved a French official of Karaikkal to such an extent that he funded the first publication of the work. The Madras Jubilee Gayan Samaj opened its office in 1883 and among its patrons were such senior officials as Sir Charles Turner, Col McLeod and Gen S Chamier.

    Programmes featuring Carnatic music were held at the Pachiappa’s Hall in George Town, Madras and many Englishmen attended these events. Patnam Subramanya Iyer, the composer who lived in Madras for 12 years, thereby acquiring the prefix Patnam (city), created the Raga Kathanakutoohalam, which can easily pass off as a melody in Western Music. His song ‘Raghuvamsa Sudha’ in this Raga is a favourite among instrumentalists, specially when they are performing to an International audience.

    At the turn of the century, the Harikatha movement (story telling with music) was at its peak. Innovations were happening in this genre. Exponents such as Harikesanallur L Muthiah Bhagavatar and Tirupazhanam Panchapakesa Sastriar were in the fore front. A popular item in their repertoire was the description of Rama’s marriage to Sita. During their discourse they let their imagination run riot and even described a ‘band’ that belted out music during the wedding procession. The ever popular ‘English Note’ was created for this.

    The Imperial Durbar of 1911 marked the zenith of the British Raj. The visit certainly influenced classical music. Gauhar Jan of Calcutta and Janki Bai of Allahabad performed a mujra for King George V, and for their song ‘Yeh Hai Tajposhi Ka Jalsa Mubarak Ho Mubarak Ho’ they were given a gift of 100 guineas. M Lakshmana Suri of Madras, father of Judge and musicologist T L Venkatarama Iyer and uncle to Harikesanallur L Muthaiah Bhagavatar, composed a set of 100 verses in Sanskrit on the King. It was titled ‘George Deva Shatakam’. He was awarded the title of Mahamahopadhyaya for the effort.

    The Muthialpet Sabha of George Town, Madras, announced a competition among composers for coming up with a song on King George. The eminent vocalist and composer Ramanathapuram 'Poochi' Srinivasa Iyengar was awarded the gold medal for his kriti ‘Satatamu Brovumayya Chakravartini’ in Raga Todi. A mangalam (benediction) too was composed. It goes ‘Jayatu Jayatu Sarvabhauma George Nama, Sundari Mary Ragni Sahita Vijayi Bhava’.

    It must have been very pleasant for Queen Mary to be called a beauty. Sadly the composer is not known. In the mid-thirties, Chittoor V Nagaiah released a 78 rpm recording of a Javali, that began with the words ‘O my lovely Lalana’. The song is a delightful mix of Telugu and English. Much closer to Independence, Ariyakkudi Ramanuja Iyengar had the occasion to perform before an English collector. In order to impress him, Iyengar began with the English note. The man was not happy. ‘‘When will you sing ‘Entaro Mahanubhavulu’?’’ he asked. Carnatic music had come full circle.

    The influence has not vanished with the end of the British Raj. During the Rishabha Vahanam procession at the Kapaleeswarar temple in Mylapore, it is customary for the bearers of the idol to dance to the tune of a band during the last lap of the event. The tunes played are the English note and... hold your breath, ‘For He’s a Jolly Good Fellow’! But then that is quite a good description of the Lord.

    , @Malla
    If you ask me, lefty controlled Hollywood, MTV pop culture and even corporate controlled rap culture has a greater chance of destroying traditional African cultures than colonisation ever had. And not only African cultures, even traditional European cultures, traditional White American culture, traditional Hispanic and native American cultures, traditional Asian cultures and others.
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  221. @daniel le mouche
    Manhattan, which is all Harlem is, is not reality. I've lived there. I've also been way out in Brooklyn and Queens around 3pm when school lets out, on the subway--god help anyone in that situation. But much worse than much of New York--Disneyland--are places like Philly, the whole south and west side of Chicago, DC, Baltimore, New Orleans, Cleveland and many more. I've spent years living around, working with, being somewhat friends with, and trying to help blacks. Many of them were warm people. This does not negate my point, that people prefer their own ethnic groups. The greatest problem as to blacks is anyone from the age of about 5 to 35--a rather large problem! This includes extremely agressive and violent females. And their whole culture is sickening to me: the shit music especially (no, not Marvin Gaye, not Louis Armstrong, but the likes of Rhianna, and the hordes of shitstick rappers).
    But to repeat: NYC is not reality, except to New Yorkers, who can't imagine life anywhere else.

    I know two longtime NYC residents, one a native New Yorker and one who moved from her home state of Connecticut, who increasingly can imagine living somewhere else. In fact they are dreaming about it and in one case, preparing for it. Good for them. I don’t care if I never set foot in that disgusting, dirty, unfriendly, overrated, overpriced, alien place again.

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  222. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Absolutely. But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.
     
    What culture? Ghanians are still wearing their Kente cloth. The British left alone most of the tribes to follow their culture. The Ashanti tribal structure was left intact and their royal families are still present. Swazis still do their reed dance for their king and the people of Uganda are still performing their traditional dance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7tq8emKPII

    How have these cultures being destroyed, they are still here. Only difference is they are using modern technology such as cameras invented by the west to record it.

    These are Watusi of the Congo performing their traditional dance during European rule.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYj15BlzwP4

    Are the European authorities stopping them?

    About Europeans destruction of Non European culture, this is interesting. It refers to classical Indian music of the South, Carnatic music.

    From

    http://indianraga.blogspot.in/2007/10/british-raj-and-indian-classical-music.html

    British Raj and Indian Classical Music

    When you think of Carnatic music, you think of temples, music which has retained its pristine purity over the ages and something strongly South Indian. But Carnatic music like all Indian art forms has been open to various cultural influences from all over the country and across the seas. Strange as it may sound, the British Raj and its bands have left a firm imprint on this most traditional music form. Muthuswami Dikshitar and Thyagaraja, two of the most revered composers of Carnatic music, were certainly influenced by the strange tunes from the British.

    Perhaps the earliest innovation was the violin. This very Western instrument became part of the Carnatic music tradition when the family of composer Ramaswami Dikshitar moved from Tiruvarur to Madras in the 1790s. The five-year stay exposed brothers Muthuswami and Baluswami Dikshitars to the ‘airs’ that were being played by the Fort St George orchestra.

    Baluswami Dikshitar learnt to play the violin from an Englishman and introduced it to the Carnatic concert platform. Muthuswami Dikshitar composed around fifty verses in Sanskrit, based on the orchestra’s music. The most famous among these is ‘Santatam Pahi Mam Sangita Shyamale’ which is set to the same tune as ‘God Save The King’! Muthuswami Dikshitar’s contemporary, Thyagaraja, composed ‘Raminsuvar Evarura’ in the Raga Suposhini, which was clearly inspired by music that accompanies march pasts.

    His ‘Vara Lila Gana Lola’ in Raga Sankarabharanam, is also completely based on Western band tunes. Thyagaraja used words that had come into Telugu from English in some of his compositions. The usage of the word Landaru (from Lantern) in the kriti ‘Emi Jesite Nemi’ (Raga Todi) and Shalu (from Shawl) in the kriti ‘Jutamurare’ (Raga Arabhi) are examples.

    The British were not immune to the beauty of Carnatic music. We have instances of singers such as Maha Vaidyanatha Sivan being appreciated by British officials.

    Gopalakrishna Bharat’s Nandan Charitram moved a French official of Karaikkal to such an extent that he funded the first publication of the work. The Madras Jubilee Gayan Samaj opened its office in 1883 and among its patrons were such senior officials as Sir Charles Turner, Col McLeod and Gen S Chamier.

    Programmes featuring Carnatic music were held at the Pachiappa’s Hall in George Town, Madras and many Englishmen attended these events. Patnam Subramanya Iyer, the composer who lived in Madras for 12 years, thereby acquiring the prefix Patnam (city), created the Raga Kathanakutoohalam, which can easily pass off as a melody in Western Music. His song ‘Raghuvamsa Sudha’ in this Raga is a favourite among instrumentalists, specially when they are performing to an International audience.

    At the turn of the century, the Harikatha movement (story telling with music) was at its peak. Innovations were happening in this genre. Exponents such as Harikesanallur L Muthiah Bhagavatar and Tirupazhanam Panchapakesa Sastriar were in the fore front. A popular item in their repertoire was the description of Rama’s marriage to Sita. During their discourse they let their imagination run riot and even described a ‘band’ that belted out music during the wedding procession. The ever popular ‘English Note’ was created for this.

    The Imperial Durbar of 1911 marked the zenith of the British Raj. The visit certainly influenced classical music. Gauhar Jan of Calcutta and Janki Bai of Allahabad performed a mujra for King George V, and for their song ‘Yeh Hai Tajposhi Ka Jalsa Mubarak Ho Mubarak Ho’ they were given a gift of 100 guineas. M Lakshmana Suri of Madras, father of Judge and musicologist T L Venkatarama Iyer and uncle to Harikesanallur L Muthaiah Bhagavatar, composed a set of 100 verses in Sanskrit on the King. It was titled ‘George Deva Shatakam’. He was awarded the title of Mahamahopadhyaya for the effort.

    The Muthialpet Sabha of George Town, Madras, announced a competition among composers for coming up with a song on King George. The eminent vocalist and composer Ramanathapuram ‘Poochi’ Srinivasa Iyengar was awarded the gold medal for his kriti ‘Satatamu Brovumayya Chakravartini’ in Raga Todi. A mangalam (benediction) too was composed. It goes ‘Jayatu Jayatu Sarvabhauma George Nama, Sundari Mary Ragni Sahita Vijayi Bhava’.

    It must have been very pleasant for Queen Mary to be called a beauty. Sadly the composer is not known. In the mid-thirties, Chittoor V Nagaiah released a 78 rpm recording of a Javali, that began with the words ‘O my lovely Lalana’. The song is a delightful mix of Telugu and English. Much closer to Independence, Ariyakkudi Ramanuja Iyengar had the occasion to perform before an English collector. In order to impress him, Iyengar began with the English note. The man was not happy. ‘‘When will you sing ‘Entaro Mahanubhavulu’?’’ he asked. Carnatic music had come full circle.

    The influence has not vanished with the end of the British Raj. During the Rishabha Vahanam procession at the Kapaleeswarar temple in Mylapore, it is customary for the bearers of the idol to dance to the tune of a band during the last lap of the event. The tunes played are the English note and… hold your breath, ‘For He’s a Jolly Good Fellow’! But then that is quite a good description of the Lord.

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  223. joef says:
    @Sin City Milla
    I hardly know where to begin to correct such naivete. My race realism is precisely that--from real daily experience, not armchair theorizing. Multiple unprovoked attacks, knifings, threats, holdups at gunpoint on most of my family n relatives, my elderly mother dragged down the street by a black thief in a truck after he had just robbed her, another relative run over, neighbor's 17 year old son at his first job executed by a black on parole while robbing him. It just goes on n on. And this is in Houston, a city that is virtually at peace in its race relations, without a race riot since 1917. How much worse must it be with violent black males in Baltimore, Chicago, Newark, Detroit, etc? Houston is 35% hispanic, 30% black, 30% white, 5% Asian. But the vast majority of violent crime is done by black males. Everyone knows this but the media, which is half black, never ever mentions it.

    My race realism is precisely that–from real daily experience, not armchair theorizing. Multiple unprovoked attacks, knifings, threats, holdups at gunpoint on most of my family n relatives,

    This is the kind of experience that most libs, and leftist, try to most desperately deny. They want these victims to suffer in silence, so they can continue to live in their fantasy vogue of how wonderful afros are, and how lucky we are to be with them. They also forbid self defense against afro american initiated aggression. Aggressive afros themselves like to commit violence without consequences, in which they hate & fear their victims fighting back against them. They like easy marks, that don’t fight back, and conduct whole protest movements to keep it that way. They pretend that they are tough, but if so why do they need liberals, the MSM, and prosecutors, to protect them from Non Blacks fighting back then? That is because many of them are cowards who like to prey on helpless innocent victims. Which begs the question to liberals: what exactly makes afros so wonderful? [limo libs are the worst because they callously ignore the suffering of their fellow countrymen, at the hands of the afro, so they can feel good about themselves]

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  224. Truth says:
    @Sin City Milla
    I hardly know where to begin to correct such naivete. My race realism is precisely that--from real daily experience, not armchair theorizing. Multiple unprovoked attacks, knifings, threats, holdups at gunpoint on most of my family n relatives, my elderly mother dragged down the street by a black thief in a truck after he had just robbed her, another relative run over, neighbor's 17 year old son at his first job executed by a black on parole while robbing him. It just goes on n on. And this is in Houston, a city that is virtually at peace in its race relations, without a race riot since 1917. How much worse must it be with violent black males in Baltimore, Chicago, Newark, Detroit, etc? Houston is 35% hispanic, 30% black, 30% white, 5% Asian. But the vast majority of violent crime is done by black males. Everyone knows this but the media, which is half black, never ever mentions it.

    Multiple unprovoked attacks, knifings, threats, holdups at gunpoint on most of my family n relatives, my elderly mother dragged down the street by a black thief in a truck after he had just robbed her, another relative run over, neighbor’s 17 year old son at his first job executed by a black on parole while robbing him.

    You guys have lived such exciting lives. Are you sure you want to give this up to sit on a rocking chair and talk about “the great storm we had, oh, 42 year ago” with your white neighbors? I mean I grew up in a %99 black neighborhood in Queens and I haven’t had near this much fun. I read about some of your lives and I think I’m watching an episode of ‘Barretta.’

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  225. Rurik says:
    @Grandpa Charlie
    Hi, Rurik!

    Cute work with images! Thanks, for your comment and also the link to WaPo article.

    WaPo was saying that Trump's Wall would have propaganda value but would do nothing about the incoming masses.

    Exactly, and that's why what I think makes sense is derb's proposal, that starts with bringing allowable legal immigration down to absolute zero. My own suggestion would be to use RICO statutes to seize places like the kosher meat packing plant (and crank lab) in Iowa, in about 2004, remember? ... seize all the assets that can be located and send the people back to Honduras or Israel, as the cases may be.

    ... but we both know anything that makes sense has no chance in this gotterdammerung

    My own suggestion would be to use RICO statutes to seize places like the kosher meat packing plant (and crank lab) in Iowa, in about 2004, remember? … seize all the assets that can be located and send the people back to Honduras or Israel, as the cases may be.

    you get my vote GC!

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  226. MarkinLA says:
    @Dumbo
    Not all is IQ. Low IQ doesn't cause people to be violent, just dumb. The cause of violence in those populations is more likely high testosterone, or some gene linked to aggressive behavior, which perhaps helped them to survive on previous times. Pre-Columbian tribes were very violent, African tribes too. Whites and Asians can be violent too but they control it or organize it better and are more socially cooperative.

    The cause of violence in those populations is more likely high testosterone, or some gene linked to aggressive

    Maybe, but the violence is always in the pursuit of wanting something, and wanting it right now, even if they can’t pay for it. Violence is the means of having to back up your act of taking it from somebody.

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  227. @Truth

    I have lived in NYC for 60 years I... in short I pass i can use the word nigger in front of niggers and not an eye brow is raised thats how well i pass.
     
    LMFAO!

    A 60-year old white man who can walk up to some cats he doesn't know, N-Bomb to his heart's content and nobody notices?

    Damn WhiteFolks, I heard you died!?!?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl4P4wIYvm4

    They notice they also notice i have no fear of them, have grown up in as bad and worse ghettos than they have ever experience done time and am covered in scars and muscles they know that I dont insult them i simply talk the same way they do because i grew up the same they do and they know the way I carry myself if they want to challenge the inflection of my delivery of the word nigger its going to be a physically settled question. if you were not a hipster yuppie faggot you would no that hispanics mideasterners and yes whites too all say nigger just like blacks do and no one questions this because its just how ghetto people talk.I can also call them blodclots bubaclot batty boys.
    whats unusual is I also grew up to go to events at the met and schools on the upper east side at times, and i ended up eventually as a union foreman with mostly minorities under me. I can pass just about any where from biker gathering to the worst slums in mexico or the USa,I even understand enough farsi and spanish to know whats generally being said and can speak it enough to make them worry i understand it all

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  228. Malla says:
    @Corvinus
    "It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations."

    The fate of African nations in the context of those nations that were created post WWII decolonizaton. In other words, when Africans gained their freedom from their colonial masters.

    "It is deceptive to claim African nations existed before whites arrived."

    African nations as far as tribal groups controlling a vast swath of land and developing a civilization.

    "Ghana alone has 12 languages and is only united by English."

    Language is but one unifying aspect.

    "African societies mostly benefited from European colonial rule n the most prosperous ones are those areas where colonialism was most thorough. Still, the end of white rule often meant the end of stable government, like Liberia, Kenya, Congo, CAR, Zimbabwe."

    Remember, European nations created artificial boundaries in Africa and herded competing tribal groups into those confined areas, then selected one or two of these tribal groups to serve as underlings. When Africans gained their freedom from their white colonial masters in the 1950's and 1960's, it is other than surprising that ethnic and tribal tensions erupted given the fact Europeans had created the conditions for destabilization.

    "Lamenting the end of African culture, if one is honest, must also include ending illiteracy, poverty, famine, epidemics, slavery, perpetual war, genocide, n cannibalism, all endemic to many parts of Africa.

    No, those things were not "ended"; in fact, some of those things were either perpetuated by or temporarily resolved by Europeans.

    Remember, European nations created artificial boundaries in Africa and herded competing tribal groups into those confined areas, then selected one or two of these tribal groups to serve as underlings. When Africans gained their freedom from their white colonial masters in the 1950′s and 1960′s, it is other than surprising that ethnic and tribal tensions erupted given the fact Europeans had created the conditions for destabilization.

    That is rubbish, no conditions were created for their destabilization. It is true that the division of Africa by European powers had divided tribes first by imperial boundaries and next by national boundaries after independence, no doubt that did cause problems and still do. Many African nations share ethnic groups across borders. But claiming that all Africans were living peacefully before Europeans arrived is just wishful thinking. Indeed the European empires like all empires brought peace and stability to these places. Either under Pax Britainnia or Pax Francia or Pax Lusophonia or other. No longer were the Zulus and Xhosas fighting each other, nor were Zulus fighting Boers. The Ashantis terrorized their neighbours so much that members of other tribes had built an African Venice like village in a lake to escape them. Not anymore, under Pax Britannia, no more inter tribal wars. No more Dahomey braves attacking their neighbouring tribes and terrorizing them under Pax Francia. There was peace.

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    "But claiming that all Africans were living peacefully before Europeans arrived is just wishful thinking."

    I never made that statement directly or indirectly. Of course prior to European jackbooting there had been conflict and war between ethnic and tribal groups in Africa. But they were able to reside in their own redoubts. The Europeans came a-knockin', and they developed these borders without African input. Moreover, Europeans kept in check this strife as groups who historically had been enemies now lived in close quarters. Once Europeans left, it created a power struggle.

    "That is rubbish, no conditions were created for their destabilization."

    Extracting natural resources without African consent, creating artificial boundaries, refusing natives to exercise political liberty...you are right, no conditions existed that generated instability. (rolling of eyes).
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  229. Rurik says:
    @anarchyst
    I grew up in Detroit, and personally witnessed the destruction of a once-great city. There are a number of reasons for Detroit's decline that have never been explored or discussed.
    1. "Blockbusting" by greedy real estate agents. Real estate agents would send out postcards with the following: "A new family is moving into your neighborhood. If you want to sell your house, please call me at xxx-xxxx". A "new family" was a euphemism for black families, and was used to "encourage" whites to sell their homes.
    2. HUD (Housing and Urban Development) speculators and real estate hustlers conspired to buy up" and raze the best houses on every block, in certain sections of the city. Quite often, "shacks" were left standing while decent housing was purchased by HUD and razed. This was done purposely to depress property values, to make it easier for speculators to purchase properties at "bargain basement" prices.
    I realize that items 1 and 2 counteract each other and are at cross purposes, but they were a reality in 1960s Detroit.
    3. The 1967 riots did much to push whites out of Detroit. A little-known aspect of the Detroit riots was the application of spray-painted words on the exteriors of black-owned businesses. The words "soul brother" was spray-painted on businesses owned by blacks so that the "angels of death" (actually rioters) would spare them from destruction. Whole business districts around the city were destroyed, never to regain their former selves.
    4. The election of Coleman Alexander Young, Detroit's first black mayor, who was overtly racist to Detroit's white citizens while "getting along just fine" with the "movers and shakers" (big business people) of the day (as long as the campaign donations kept coming in)....
    5. The abolition of the STRESS (Stop The Robberies, Enjoy Safe Streets) program. This anti-criminal program was put in by mayor Young's predecessor and was quite successful in "cleaning up the streets" of criminals. In this program, police officers would disguise themselves as vulnerable old people and walk through neighborhoods as "decoys". Predatory criminals would attempt to rob these elderly citizens and quite often, were dispatched to "the great hereafter". One of Young's campaign promises was the abolition of the STRESS program as too many of "his people" were being eliminated. Upon the election of Young, the program was disbanded.
    These are 5 reasons for this once-great city's demise.

    4. The election of Coleman Alexander Young, Detroit’s first black mayor, who was overtly racist to Detroit’s white citizens

    don’t forget his successor Kwame Kilpatrick

    it isn’t that places like Detroit or DC happen to have racist thug gangsters as their mayor, the problem is that the racist black denizens of these rat holes of corruption and graft, will always re-elect them as a way of expressing their racist hatred of white people and white society. I suppose it is very likely that if the black citizens of Detroit could vote for Kwame as mayor from his prison cell, they’d do so.

    yes, Detroit was hurt by the idiocy and greed of the auto executives and the idiocy and greed of the UAW

    but to top it off, Detroit became a black city, in part due to the overtly racist policies of the notoriously racist mayor Coleman Young, and now they’re dealing with that legacy.

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    What a nasty looking dude!!! Are his deeds just as nasty?
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  230. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Absolutely. But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.
     
    What culture? Ghanians are still wearing their Kente cloth. The British left alone most of the tribes to follow their culture. The Ashanti tribal structure was left intact and their royal families are still present. Swazis still do their reed dance for their king and the people of Uganda are still performing their traditional dance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7tq8emKPII

    How have these cultures being destroyed, they are still here. Only difference is they are using modern technology such as cameras invented by the west to record it.

    These are Watusi of the Congo performing their traditional dance during European rule.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYj15BlzwP4

    Are the European authorities stopping them?

    If you ask me, lefty controlled Hollywood, MTV pop culture and even corporate controlled rap culture has a greater chance of destroying traditional African cultures than colonisation ever had. And not only African cultures, even traditional European cultures, traditional White American culture, traditional Hispanic and native American cultures, traditional Asian cultures and others.

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    ' lefty controlled Hollywood, MTV pop culture and even corporate controlled rap culture has a greater chance of destroying traditional African cultures than colonisation ever had. And not only African cultures, even traditional European cultures'

    GREATER CHANCE?? It's already over. And it's scientifically done: they get the 'youfs', they know precisely what they're doing. It likely comes back to the likes of the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, those who own such vast portions of 'society' (well into the trillions of dollars' worth).
    White America's done. Germany's done. France and Italy, the UK, Ireland. MDMA is rampant in Europe, meth is in America (God knows what else, I'm super out of the loop).
    What a great Dark Age is dawning, nothing like anything hitherto seen in this world!
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  231. @RadicalCenter
    Interesting to learn, HK. I have very little experience with those Arizona cities, and none with those Texas cities. As for Albuquerque, where I briefly lied, have friends, and have visited many times, aren't there just mercifully few Africans in ABQ?

    Not many blacks in AZ or NM. Phoenix has more than Tucson, though. Still, a lot fewer than LA, Denver, Vegas or the East Bay.

    While Texas has a large black population, El Paso’s black population is tiny.

    Kinda proves Fred right.

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    Maybe. But the property crime, gang conflict, welfare / HeadStart / WIC / Medicaid caseloads, and plain old filthiness of hundreds of Latino towns and neighborhoods around this country cut the other way, right? Camden NJ, part of Norwalk CA, El Monte CA, East LA, ABQ itself, DC and some MD towns, and on and on.

    I wouldn't be sanguine about the massive Latino population just because the Africans are far worse. We don't need either here in significant numbers and shouldn't admit any more.

    Fred is an apologist for all things Mexican and perhaps Hispanic, misleading both himself and others.
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