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Let us look into the abyss. It will do no good.

First, another page in the sordid comic book of American race relations. In Beijing, three black basketball players from UCLA were arrested for shoplifting. They faced jail time. Ten years, actually.

The theft was so stupid that it demands explanation. It was too stupid for stupidity to be responsible They did not need to steal. They were pampered babies of semi-pro basketball, infinitely privileged. They are not expected to meet academic standards, to study, or be able to read. Something other than conventional stupidity must be involved. Is it that blacks, as various psychologists have said, lack impulse control, cannot readily envision the future? I don’t know. It fits, though.

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There is a curious pattern here. Scoreboard Baby is a book tracking the careers of black football players at the University of Washington. UW is a big-time football school and these players were on track to be millionaires in the NFL. Yet their record in the university is one of rape, armed robbery, assault, wife-beating, endlessly repeated drunk driving, drug use, and parole violation. Criminality is understandable: You want those tennis shoes, or your life is so screwed up that you just don’t give a damn. These guys, with everything going for them, apparently could not control themselves even in their own interest.

But, back to the basketball players: As they awaited a decade in a Chinese slam, Donald Trump–drum roll, trumpets—drops from the sky like a thunderbolt, weaning a red, white, and blue cape. He intervenes to save three two-bit semi-literate boosters. The President of the United States acting like a starveling PD, public defender, the bottom-rung lawyers who hang around court houses in cheap suits to keep bottom-feeding crooks on the street.

Possibly I was wrong about the manner of Mr. Trump’s arrival. Anyway, I am thinking that when he leaves office, he could start a firm, Shoplifters Redemption International and get federal outreach money.

OK, next. Baltimore has passed three hundred murders for the year. The figure is so astonishing that one almost begins to see it as like a batting average: Can they make it to four hundred? Are we doing better than last year?

You will probably have assumed hat the killers were Chinese math majors from Johns Hopkins. Right? You racist dog.

In response to its Bizarro world chaos, the black government of Ballmer tears down Confederate statues. Yes. These cause crime. The correlation is undeniable: Japan has no Confederate statues, and no crime. See?

These offensive sculptures commemorate a war that Baltimore’s cadavers, strewn about like flower petals in autumn, couldn’t spell. Do you doubt this? Go into the schools of Baltimore and see how many can spell “Confederate.” Which brings us to:

Next: Another Baltimorean triumph:. Fox News:“Project Baltimore analyzed 2017 state testing data and found one-third of High Schools in Baltimore, last year, had zero students proficient in math.” In six other high schools, only 1 percent tested proficient in math. Only 15 percent of Baltimore students passed the state’s English test..

Bear in mind that the schools, and their policies, are entirely under control of a black government.

It is hard to decide whether these revelations are astonishing or boring. Accustomed to such numbers by long exposure, we forget that scholastic catastrophe of this magnitude would be unthinkable in any other civilized society. Can you imagine a Baltimore in Japan? Finland? South Korea? Germany before African immigration? Ah, but Baltimore is getting rid of those oppressive statues. That will fix things.

Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

Next: More advances in the homicide competition: Chicago, the City that Works, has hit six hundred dead! Zingo! Those pikers in Ballmer don’t have a chance. There is good news, of a sort. There have been 2045 shootings in Chicago to the end of October. This comes 3.41 attempts per murder. Oh blessed inaccuracy. In poor marksmanship lies our hope.

Chicago’s educational statistics do not differ markedly from those of Baltimore, Detroit, Newark, or New Orleans. All of these cities turn out young blacks who will have no chance at all in a techno-industrial society. Reckon this happens in Beijing?

Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

And hopeless. Even if we believed that better schools would help, a proposition for which there is no evidence, or earlier intervention, perhaps in the womb, or special tutoring, or tweaks to self-esteem, even free Air Jordans, it would take twelve years to have effect—the length of a high-school education. Politicians do not look beyond the next election.

Anyway, there is no point in talking about education. Blacks lack interest. Have you ever heard of a black school telling mothers—there apparently are no fathers in what seems to have become a sprawling parthenogenetic ecosystem—to help their kids with their homework? Of black Boards of Education asking for thicker textbooks with bigger words and smaller pictures? It is semi-illiteracy by choice. We are doomed.

Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

Next. The war goes on. We have black football players refusing to stand for the national anthem. They think that young black males are being hunted down by cops. Actually of course black males are hunting each other down in droves but black football players apparently have no objection to this. They do not themselves convincingly suffer discrimination. Where else can you get paid six million green ones a year for grabbing something and running? Maybe in a district of jewelers.

The non-standing is racial hostility to whites. The large drop in attendance of games, of television viewership, is racial blowback by whites. Millions of whites are thinking, that, if America doesn’t suit them, football players can afford a ticket to Kenya. While this line of reasoning is tempting, it doesn’t really address the problem and so would be a waste of time.

But what, really, is the problem?

It is one that dare not raise its head: that blacks cannot compete with whites, Asians, or Latin-Americans. Is there counter-evidence? This leaves them in an incurable state of resentment and thus hostility. I think we all know this: Blacks know it, whites know it, liberals know it, and conservatives know it. If any doubt this, the truth would be easy enough to determine with carefully done tests. The furious resistance to the very idea of measuring intelligence suggests awareness of the likely outcome. You don’t avoid a test if you expect good results.

So we do nothing while things worsen and the world looks on astounded. We have mob attacks by Black Lives Matter, the never-ending Knockout Game, flash mobs looting stores and subway trains, occasional burning cities, and we do nothing. Which makes sense, because there is nothing to be done short of restructuring the country.

Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

Regarding which: Do we really want, any of us, what we are doing? In particular, has anyone asked ordinary blacks, not black pols and race hustlers. “Do you really want to live among whites, or would you prefer a safe middle-class black neighborhood? Do your kids want to go to school with whites? If so, why? Do you want them to? Why? Would you prefer black schools to decide what and how to teach your children? Keeping whites out of it? Would you prefer having only black police in your neighborhood?”

And the big one: “Do you, and the people you actually know in your neighborhood, really want integration? Or is it something imposed on you by oreo pols and white ideologues?”

But these are things we must never think, never ask.

It isn’t working. Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

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  1. They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus ‘big happy family’–no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this ‘ideal’ (i.e. black man + white woman).
    But to more immediate matters at hand, a rational and just society (the diametrical opposite to ours, it goes without saying) would lock up these animals. Those who show they can be civilized–till they no longer can, that is (OJ, so many others)–can continue to reap what used to be the endless benefits of such a wealthy society.
    Never mind. The simple reality (again, shown by so much horrific life experience) is that they will always hate whitey, and in the most violent, aggressive manner. And thoughtful, honest whites will remember their own heritage, not fall for Jew propaganda of multicultural utopia, and realize in great numbers, again–not long ago, most did–that they don’t want to be around these fuckers anyway, no matter what. We have every right (if only we didn’t behave like pussies) to live in European societies, sans darkie hordes, especially of the Afro American variety.

  2. It’s the “stupid culture” more than the ethnicity. A culture with strong positive values can boost the success of individuals, while a dysfunctional one will hobble them. Teaching that negatives are positive, and to be emulated by children, is the unmitigated disaster. If it’s propagated into the wider society, it takes its toll on lives there too. From all that I read, there’s a critical mass of deconstructionists trying to wreak that havoc on all our descendants.

    • Replies: @pyrrhus
  3. joef says:

    So we do nothing while things worsen and the world looks on astounded. We have mob attacks by Black Lives Matter, the never-ending Knockout Game, flash mobs looting stores and subway trains, occasional burning cities, and we do nothing. Which makes sense, because there is nothing to be done short of restructuring the country.

    Absolute, obvious, unacknowledged disaster.

    That is an accurate summation of the afro american problem. And there is no reversal pending for this disastrous formula of racial balkanization plus economic decline. As more & more States and municipalities go bust, our economic situation will continue to disintegrate. Afros will not reform themselves (there is no incentive for them to do so because we always give in to their demands), leftist enable their antisocial dysfunctions, and libs fearfully ignore the obvious. Confirmation bias did not keep the Titanic afloat, nor will liberal confirmation bias keep this unsustainable afro burden afloat.

    The situation has not improved for the last half century, and in fact has gotten much much worse. If you logically project this forward in time, you must honestly conclude that the future of this nation will entail a great deal of scarcity, strife, and struggle. When the economy unravels, afros will not peacefully wait on line for food, fuel, and banks. When afros don’t get easy entitlements they will attack, and at that point you will be forced to either fight or die. If libs choose to die in self deception, so be it, that’s their problem, don’t make it ours.

    While we truly wish this was different, afros aggressively push for more!

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    , @Anonymous
  4. Gene Su says:

    I’m going to split my response into several posts:

    Fred, you didn’t once talk about Dylann Roof and the Charleston Church shooting. You had a golden opportunity to repeat a theme that you had in your earlier essays: that the mainstream media aggressively plays up race when dealing with white on black crime and downplays black on white crime. You could have talked about how the Charleston Church shooting got a cover page on Time magazine but the Tennessee Church shooting, done by an African immigrant, hardly made a ripple.

  5. Gene Su says:

    I’m going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem. A lot of “race realists” think that the problem solely rests with the media and educational sector pushing “critical race theory” (i.e., hiding crime committed by blacks). I think that is just the “icing on the cake”. I have written this previously: The real problem lies with America’s social structure and its public schooling policy.

    Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.

    It has been noted by many that America’s public schools are far more segregated than we would like to admit. Some of the most segregated districts are in northern cities like New York. That means that any bullies, punks, and thugs that your white child will be victimized by in school will not be black but white. Ilana Mercer ranted in an interview with Tom Woods about violent black kids attacking white kids in public schools.

    So what? When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself. I remember the librarian throwing me out when the white thugs would gang up on me in the library. Does that mean that I’m going to hold a grudge against white people all my life? Of course not. I’m also not going to say that whites commit more thuggery than blacks. However, my experiences have cause me to be skeptical of some of the wilder stories published by Jared Taylor, Colin Flaherty, and other race realists.

    What these people are being deceptive about is NOT about how violent the black underclass has become. What they are trying to hide is that white youth are in danger of going the same way. I knew a white thug (who I admit was a “wigger”) who beat a kid senseless with a tire iron. Nicholas Stix and Jim Goad have written about blacks who cheat on their exams and being let off the hook for heavy disciplinary infractions. I have dealt with many whites who also have cheated and gotten away with it. American schools don’t have a race problem. They have a discipline problem spread across all races. Maybe it’s not spread evenly but it has pervaded all communities.

  6. Fred’s schtick is obvious. It’s to get people ginned up about the black menace so they’re compliant about accepting 30 million Jose Zarates into the country.

    Can Unz fire Reed and hire Allan Wall instead? He’s much better.

    • Disagree: Cato
    • LOL: Truth
  7. @Bragadocious

    Bragadocious, I think your schtick is obvious: Ignore realities you are too afraid to acknowledge, and blame them there foreigners! After all, them there black folks is Americans like us, Cletis!

  8. Which makes sense, because there is nothing to be done short of restructuring the country.

    So why not restructure the country then?

    Why not allow the existence of various racially exclusive jurisdictions? This in itself would solve over 90% of the problem.

    If given jurisdictions were permitted to vote to become monoracial then only members of that race would be able to move in to that jurisdiction, while members of other races would only be able move out of it. As imperfect and problematic as this process is bound to be – we’d learn a lot on the way, don’t worry – it would quite quickly set in motion the “restructuring” of the country that Fred, for now, considers unthinkable.

  9. @Gene Su

    I too have wondered whether accounts of racial problems provided by the Jared Taylors of the world are trustworthy. I think there is a definite tendency among pro-whites to exaggerate the extent of racial problems. All the same, the broad outlines of racial differences in violence and criminality are unmistakable.

    As for your experiences, no one seriously doubts that whites are capable of being violent and racially spiteful. The difference between whites and blacks in this regard is that whites are vastly more likely to condemn such behavior than to excuse it, and to take concrete steps to clamp down on it. When was the last time you heard black leaders talking about measures that could be taken to reduce the unacceptably high degree of black-on-white violence? Hahaha. Such an idea is too laughable for words, isn’t it.

    • Replies: @joef
  10. The flash point is likely to come as we run out of whites who tolerate black dysfunction. Mexicans bring their own problems (sorry, Fred, they do) but they have much less tolerance for black dysfunction. Someday, blacks are going to commit some atrocity in a Mexican community and the Mexicans are going to react as whites did in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1921.

    The ultimate solution is (at least) two societies, but it will probably take a civil war to impose it.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    , @Biff
    , @MBlanc46
  11. @Gene Su

    “I’m going to repeat here a request I had in some previous blog postings: I would seriously like someone to pen an essay dealing with WHY so many whites (or non-blacks) are fooled into thinking that there is no black underclass problem.”–dude, it also includes all the black middle classes: these affirmative action parasites (see Obama family) stir up the underclass with all their invidious racial grievances.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  12. Okechukwu says:

    But, back to the basketball players: As they awaited a decade in a Chinese slam, Donald Trump–drum roll, trumpets—drops from the sky like a thunderbolt, weaning a red, white, and blue cape. He intervenes to save three two-bit semi-literate boosters.

    What does any of this have to do with anything? How does it constitute a “racial snapshot.” There are white men boinking little boys tonight. Is that a snapshot too?

    Baltimore has passed three hundred murders for the year.

    Gee, a couple of white men wracked up nearly 1/3 of this body count in a few hours.

    It is one that dare not raise its head: that blacks cannot compete with whites, Asians, or Latin-Americans.

    This is patently false. I know from personal experience having been in classes with whites, Asians and Latin Americans. And I’m not alone.

    The furious resistance to the very idea of measuring intelligence suggests awareness of the likely outcome. You don’t avoid a test if you expect good results.

    The people in love with the idea of measuring intelligence tend not to be very bright themselves. That’s the great irony and the dilemma you face in moving that needle in the direction you want.

    We have mob attacks by Black Lives Matter, the never-ending Knockout Game, flash mobs looting stores and subway trains, occasional burning cities, and we do nothing. Which makes sense, because there is nothing to be done short of restructuring the country.

    On what planet is all of this happening? This planet? Okay, cite with credible evidence any of these events taking place today or this week or this month or this year.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @MBlanc46
  13. Truth says:

    Hey, Good one, Federico. I estimate this will by you 3-4 “I Luv Mess-kins” articles with you fans.

  14. According to Howard Zinn, what the USA ruling elite fears most is that poor USA citizens unite, regardless of colour

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    , @MBlanc46
  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Gene Su

    I agree with this.

    Black people have always had high crime rates, high teenage pregnancy, and low academic success rates. What white HBD types never acknowledge is whites backsliding and copying ghetto black culture and being guilty of the very things that blacks do in ever increasing numbers.

    Whites are devolving into a small higher caste group of whites with high iq and a much larger lower caste group of whites with low iq that has the same issues blacks deal with.

    Also, as much as violent crime is a problem the main issue with America is not black violence. It is white collar crime that is almost exclusively the domain of white people.

    Add up all of the crimes of blacks, and it does not come close to the cost of white collar crime from white people.

  16. JessicaR says:

    I have read both the article and the responses with mixed reactions. The racial snapshot focuses on the negative. My mother, my grandfather, my great aunt and I have all been mugged and all the assailants were black. While an open discussion of this reality is very important, there are other realities as well: the high percentage of African-Americans in the health care fields who have given me competent and compassionate care, the African-American churches who are doing yeoman’s work in trying to improve conditions within the community, and the number of African-Americans serving in America’s (stupid and criminal!) wars and coming home to be treated as potential thugs and criminals. When I first moved to Mississippi, I talked with a black veteran of the Afghanistan war who objected to the term “African-American” because he felt that after serving his country, he deserved to just be an American and not a separate kind of American.

    I also find that when I am out in public and need some kind of help–lifting something heavy, needing a break in traffic–very often the person helping me is black (or African-American–take your pick.) I have African-American neighbors I much prefer to some of the drug-addicted whites I have lived next to in my life.

    Whenever I hear discussions of racial or ethnic politics, I am reminded of the courtroom oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Fred Reed has told the truth but has not told the whole truth.

    Gene Su, you make an excellent point about not judging an entire people by its worst elements.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @MarkinLA
    , @gp
    , @Jim
  17. @daniel le mouche

    Fred Reed, daniel le mouche; where do you live? Reading your words is like reading Alice in Wonderland. I feel like you are certifiably insane. I am a white person who has lived in Harlem all of my adult life (40 years). You want to “ship out” my life long friends and neighbors?!? Are you out of your mind? You couldn’t possibly have cultivated such absurd racist notions if you actually had regular contact, lasting friendships and family ties with real life “black” people. Ron Unz has done a great service by providing us this forum of alternative views. But many of the articles and comments exude the putrid stench of racism, white supremacy to be precise; a disease of the mind and heart. I pity you sitting behind your computer screen spouting such vile criminal absurdities as shipping black americans to Africa. Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

  18. Renoman says:

    Go Fred! The last voice of common sense.

  19. Realist says:
    @daniel le mouche

    “They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said. It is absolutely impossible, as Fred and painful experience make clear, to be some bogus ‘big happy family’–no matter how many ads, Christmas and otherwise, they show us of this ‘ideal’ (i.e. black man + white woman).”

    Yes, the miscegenation promoted by the media and big corporations is amazing. The good point is that only stupid whites would be persuades by these ads. Do Israeli ads show Jewish women with blacks….I think not.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  20. @Gene Su

    Lowe class whites in the UK and Russia are every bit as dysfunctional as American blacks, which suggests that socialist economic policies and welfare certainly don’t help.

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  21. Iberiano [AKA "Scotty"] says:
    @Gene Su

    Gene Su, you either are joking or are naive. If you have EVER lived in any major metro area in the United States you will ALWAYS have interactions with the so-called, as you describe it, “black underclass”. Try any subway line in the United States. Both blacks and whites live in fear of black teens and blacks in general that roam, often with mental disorders, throughout large swaths of urban areas, looking for easy targets. Normies of EVERY RACE, but particular Whites and Asians, are VERY aware of how frequent they are or will have to interact with blacks, when considering job opportunities and/or living accommodations. And I will go you one further, this isn’t reserved to whatever “underclass” you speak of. Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those “visiting cousins” in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home.

  22. Dr. X says:

    Accustomed to such numbers by long exposure, we forget that scholastic catastrophe of this magnitude would be unthinkable in any other civilized society.

    “Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.

    So we do nothing while things worsen and the world looks on astounded.

    To the contrary, the world is copying our problem by importing Negroes and Muslims. Italy, Germany, Sweden, France, and the UK are willingly creating racial nightmares of their own.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Corvinus
  23. Dr. X says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    The ultimate solution is (at least) two societies, but it will probably take a civil war to impose it.

    We actually had one of those… and it imposed the integrated society we have today.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  24. @Bragadocious

    AGREED

    Fred’s schtick is also to throw this kind of truth out there at least 4 or 5 times a year in order to keep most of his readers, who are otherwise sick of his continual promotion of his new-found Mexicanity. What I don’t like is that, anytime other writers, VDare people for example, or the few decent politicians, come up with ideas for solutions to America’s manifold racial problems, Mr. Reed makes a point to criticize them. Fred Reed loves to complain, but will not offer any solutions and hates those who do.

    Mr. Allan Wall would indeed be a great substitute, Mr. Bragadocious. He writes without any animosity toward anyone, has his experience of living in Mexico with his family with more of an open mind than Fred, and not as just an ex-patriate whiner. His column on VDare, which was “Memo from Mexico”, and is now “Memo from Middle America”, is always an interesting read with both the Mexican and American perspective.

    How bout it, Ron Unz? It sure beats hell out of the Commie losers that have been featured all around your site lately?

    • Agree: Vinteuil
  25. fnn says:

    What looks to be a mainstream investment newsletter dares to state the obvious:

    https://gefira.org/en/2017/12/05/in-300-years-there-are-only-300-japanese-left/

    Japan’s plight is shared by all developed countries in Asia and Europe. The world likes to portrait Japan as a case on its own, and economists and politicians prefer to ignore demographic reality. Europe is trying to solve the problem by importing Third World people. It is a weird reversed colonization experiment. What an irony! The French elites were not able to rule over the Algerians in Algiers, now they are trying to manage the Algerian population in Paris. There is no reason to believe the outcome will be much different.

    • Replies: @Iberiano
    , @MarkinLA
  26. @nuyorwegian

    YOURE A LIAR
    I have lived in NYC for 60 years I grew up in the lower east side now called east village and have lived the last ten in crown heights I have lived in harlem and all over brooklyn. I too have many black and hispanic friends I also work in a majority minority ( by Court order) industry. Being a city kid I speak spanglish blacklish and all the rest, in short I pass i can use the word nigger in front of niggers and not an eye brow is raised thats how well i pass. Im also an NYU educated upper middle class white with 130 IQ whos insane parents decided to live in a slum when they could have afforded fifth avenue.
    The point is you are a fucking liar if you think the people you have selected as friends and acquaintances are a representative sample, its no different than the elite scum who pretend the nigger from grad school or the one who made it to the cubicle next to them is representative,The statistics are what is representative * times the murder rate of whites and hispanics combined, fathers unheard of, two siblings of the same father unheard of.an 85 average IQ for the half of the blacks with 25% white blood closer to 65 IQ for the the other half of recent immigrant blacks.I play a game can i walk down to the block to te store and back home without seeing or hearing a black do or say something so heinous i would hear or see a white do the same thing in 20 years I never lose this game, of course it helps that I understand what they are saying where as 99% of whites have no idea what 60% of what blacks say means.
    The sad reality is we should have shipped them back after the civil war, we dont owe them shit. slavery was an elite british thing its not on the heads of any american even by 1176 we were trying to undo it and 85 years later fought a war to undo it its not on us its really on no one. every single race has had slavery only whites eradicated it. we owe blacks nothing but a ticket home

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Truth
  27. Iberiano [AKA "Scotty"] says:
    @fnn

    I remember hearing 20 years ago about how Germany would NEED to bring in more immigrants to support the aging German population. Setting aside that dubious motivation, what normal white person in “THE CURRENT YEAR”, having seen all we have seen, on every continent around the globe, would ever presume for a SECOND, that non-whites:

    a) are capable, even as simply large minority populations within white nations, of running anything proficiently enough to improve medicine, agriculture, technology, services, etc; and/or

    b) are interested in doing anything that is at any time perceived as benefiting whites, aging or not;

    c) have enough foresight to even prepare for their own futures beyond a few weeks, let alone long-term planning for a massive industrialized and populated society.

    The WW2 Vet dying alone in a hospital while black “nurses” laughed is merely symbolic, if not metaphoric for the larger truth (and event horizon) that blacks and browns lack empathy, and have such strong in-group preference, low future-orientation, and high impulsiveness that everything white people hold so dear as universal truths of altruism, love, beauty and a better future–is a fantasy that will crumble with every percentage of demographic change in any white nation.

    The idea that we are “all in this together” and “diversity is out strength” requires full doses of cognitive-dissonance in light of the reality around us that you would have to be mentally ill to not notice it’s falsity.

  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @nuyorwegian

    You posted some of your thoughts and feelings and that’s what counts. Did it ever occur to you what the purpose of social media might be? You may have visited the doctor, and he did something that hurt, “Any pain?”

    Unz’s honeypot works similarly. When we visit with Reed we’re supposed to pile on accordingly, think of the data as necessary to sustain the real unstoppable recidivists.

    Unz (if it’s of any help) essentially stole his wealth but there’s no case of a crime that needs to be solved.

    • Replies: @Anon
  29. @jilles dykstra

    “According to Howard Zinn, what the USA ruling elite fears most is that poor USA citizens unite, regardless of colour”

    Like virtually all Jews, Zinn is motivated by hatred of Whites and America so you should take what he has to say with a grain of salt.

  30. Of all the cucked things Trump has done, intervening on behalf of those basketball players to win their release was among the most egregious.

    And allowing him to do it showed that the Chinese still aren’t ready to stand up to America. A real nation would have politely told him to sod off and jailed them.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    , @edNels
  31. For some, maybe most,… hell, maybe all, denial of the race problem is just part of denial of the unsustainable nature of our over-”grown” civilization and denial of the Darwinian Nature that civilization struggles with.

    Perhaps they are afraid that once they have allowed the admission of this painful reality then others will, or must, follow (and behind them all lurks a nuclear holocaust).

    I myself have come to accept that we are approaching a population collapse, but I have convinced myself that it can come in the form of disease and limited war. I have wondered about my own thinking. Is this just my way of dealing with the fear of a nuclear holocaust?

    If you talk to people much you will find that most have the idea that if things are “allowed” to get out of control we are doomed, therefore they cannot admit that there are things we cannot control.

    Mencken said that for every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. He sure had that right.

  32. @Gene Su

    Recently visited NYC staying in Riverside accessible by pricey Metroliner from midtown and also accessible by subway. So I took the subway. I also took the A train subway to JFK airport and to check out Broad Channel housing. Yes, the subway is where one can check out the deportment of groups of black kids and likewise groups of white underclass kids. Loud, yes, but IMHO sufficiently domesticated by NYC schools to maintain acceptable behavior standards when on the subway and posing no threat to others. Of course this is merely anecdotal but suggestive. I suggest that the takeaway from this “evidence” is that it is easy to exaggerate and stereotype black behavior. I have a public library recall for Scoreboard, Baby and look forward to the vicarious pleasure of reading about bad behavior of black university athletes.. Public behavior in America historically has been raucous and riotous. As the majority white Americans grew more civilized, American negroes enfranchised post the Civil Rights ’60s are keeping up the old American wildness. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Germany came to Kentucky when 14 years old. He told me he was quite taken aback by the rough behavior of American kids compared to behavior of German kids. Another anecdote: a friend who grew up in Greece reported how impressed he was by the way American kids could self-organize, playing sports where the individual team members could seamless change teams and automatically correlate with their new teammates. In Greece, he said, team play would immediately collapse in unresolvable argument about the outcome of each play. When it comes to politico-ideological viewpoints, it is easy to succumb to exaggeration.

  33. Malla says:

    slavery was an elite british thing

    More like Jewish

    And it possible that labour was not the only reason to get them to the Americas. There were some long term intentions and they are playing out infront of the eyes of the world as described by Fred.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  34. Biff says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    The only thing that Mexicans hate worse than blacks is other Mexicans. They’ve been on the run for years. The Eskimos will be complaining soon enough.

  35. @Achmed E. Newman

    The bottom line is, Reed doesn’t like the United States very much and I think actively wishes harm upon it. While oddly hanging out with Americans in Ajijic.

    Wall likes this country. And his name has the word “wall” in it. Bonus!

    • Replies: @Jake
  36. Miro23 says:
    @JessicaR

    When I first moved to Mississippi, I talked with a black veteran of the Afghanistan war who objected to the term “African-American” because he felt that after serving his country, he deserved to just be an American and not a separate kind of American.

    Quite right too, and probably better than the average Congressman – Pick one at random.

  37. Jake says:
    @Bragadocious

    If you think Mexicans are even a third as bad as blacks, then either you are ignorant of a least one of them or else you are multiple times more anti-Mexican than Reed is pro-Mexican.

  38. 1legdrvn says:

    I’m always fascinated by your thought provoking articles and the erudite comments generated. This one takes the cake. That would be Marie Antoinette’s cake. I’m sure a few hundred years ago Fred your serf ancestors were as well thought of. I’m sure your revered, seemingly, kings and queens would have hired you on as their sooth sayer. You might at some point want to look at how fear that has become engaged in subcultures has led to the bitterness and dispensed arrogance of each group towards all others. BTW him many in your home of mexico have been slaughtered this year and what have you dine about it?

  39. Fred hit a nerve. Thank you.
    I read Unz Review because it prints stuff from the left, the right, the correct and the incorrect.

    Why?

    Drum-role, please:

    Because it makes me think. There are other points of view than my own.

    I guess some people don’t get it when someone says something they don’t like or agree with. Sad — in a real democracy various opinions should be considered. THAT does not mean agreed with!

  40. Jake says:
    @Bragadocious

    Reed does not like Liberal America and what it has produced. Reed has dozens of articles that mark very clearly how deeply he knows and cherishes the America that was murdered by post World War 2 Liberals.

    And that murdering of America began with the WASP Elites adopting the Negro as their pets, which adoption the WASP allies the Jews doubled in intensity.

    The Numinous Negro, due to the WASP Elites, and later also Jews, using him – the Numinous Negro – as weapons and tools with which to batter white Christians the WASP Elites and Jews dislike, isn absolutely central to all Liberal perversions of America.

  41. Dave says:
    @nuyorwegian

    I’ve lived in NYC for my entire adult life, since 1988, and I find it hard to believe you’ve lived in Harlem for 40 years and seen no violence or dysfunction. To be honest, I think your full of it.
    I’ve lived on the Lower East Side, Brooklyn and now the UES. I vividly remember NY under the Koch and Dinkins administrations. I remember NYC had the highest per capita murder rate in the country until Giuliani was elected, averaging well over 2000 murders a year until 1993 or so. That’s not taking into account attempted murder, aggravated assault, armed robbery and just the general level of mayhem and intimidation that existed in wide swathes of NYC.
    Everyone I know who lived here in the 70′s and 80′s has experienced some form of violence at the hands of a black man or men. I myself was once randomly attacked by a homeless black man. He started a fight with me, and when I squared off with him, preparing to fight, he realized I wasn’t an easy mark and pulled out a box cutter and tried to slash me with it. The late 60′s through the early 90′s was one long explosion of criminality at the hands of a subset of the black population. Hispanics were certainly involved, as were some white ethnics, but the overwhelming majority of it was committed by young black males. And then Giuliani demanded the police focus on the neighborhoods and demographic responsible for the worst crime, and lo and behold, the murder rates started to plummet.
    Liberals never forgave him for this, by the way.
    Are all black people to blame for this ?
    Absolutely not.
    I have worked with and socialized with many warm, wonderful black people. People I came to love and trust. But even they, and many other black people of I’ve worked with , once they felt they could trust me, would reveal their true feelings about the black community and it’s problems.
    Black people know that the black underclass, as it’s called, is badly broken, probably beyond repair.
    Many black people will also begrudgingly admit that white people, Asians as well, are generally smarter and more competent when it comes to running things and making sure civilization functions properly.
    The statistical, and anecdotal, evidence of black criminality and dysfunction is overwhelming and irrefutable.
    You appear to be in deep denial about all of this, which is surprising, seeing as how you claim to have lived in the black community for 40 years.
    Do you ever leave the apartment ?

    • Replies: @joef
  42. Currahee says:

    each one teach one:

    EVERYTHING THEY TAUGHT YOU ABOUT RACE IS A LIE!

  43. @Jake

    I don’t like black crime anymore than anyone else. I take precautions to not be a victim.

    On the other hand, black crime is our problem. They’re our people, whether you like it or not. And that will never change.

    Here’s my question. Just because we have lots of lawbreakers in this country, why do we want more from another country? And saying “they’re not as bad as blacks” is not an argument.

    • Replies: @Hare Krishna
  44. @Iberiano

    Scotty, you took the words right out of my mouth. Where are these magical cities where one can take the train, take the bus, walk to lunch or dinner, go shopping, etc., without encountering hostile and rude and often menacing Africans?

    I lived in Philly, and it is utterly absurd to say that you can avoid Africans in daily life if you work downtown, or on Drexel campus, or on Penn campus, etc. Same with Washington DC, Cleveland and Cincinnati OH, Newark or Trenton NJ, Detroit, Denver, Saint Louis, and sure as Hell here in Los Angeles.

    No matter where one lives, as soon as you go to the downtown, there they are, ready and eager to glare, to block your way on the sidewalk, intimidate, insult, sometimes assault, and generally enjoy making your life fearful and miserable.

  45. @Dr. X

    And the Germans with whom I speak every week (our kids are in German classes) — mostly born and raised in Germany — get nervous, then indignant, then insulting, when I urge them to be realistic and stop importing into Germany the Hell that we already have here.

    They have a ready excuse or evasion for every rape, every grope, every assault, every theft, every crime wave, every belligerent demand by Africans and Muslims in their country.

    They are much angrier at me for pointing out the facts than they are at the people physically hurting and threatening their own people every hour in Germany now.

  46. Wally says:
    @Anonymous

    Got proof?

    Nope, you’re just making it up.

    • Replies: @Hare Krishna
  47. Wally says:
    @Gene Su

    “When I, an Asian, attended public elementary school, I was attacked several times by several white punks (one Italian and one Irish). I also remember the teacher threatening to punish me when I tried to stand up for myself.”

    Why should we believe you, your agenda is obvious?

    However, there are violent whites, but the numbers are minute when compared to blacks & browns.
    I suggest you read:
    Color of Crime.

    https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/

    Come back when you’re ready to back up your assertions.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Alden
    , @Gene Su
  48. @Okechukwu

    The people in love with the idea of measuring intelligence tend not to be very bright themselves. That’s the great irony and the dilemma you face in moving that needle in the direction you want.

    I’m not at all sure that they “tend” not to be very bright, but assuming it’s true, it is perhaps ironic, but how is it a “dilemma”?

    • Replies: @Anon
  49. Wally says: • Website

    Yet Israel allows JEWS ONLY, but then Jews demand massive low IQ, 3rd world immigration into white Gentile countries.

    Israel to shut migrant centre and deport Africans

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/israel-to-shut-migrant-centre-and-deport-africans/

  50. @Anonymouse

    That’s true. Too many people downplay white dysfunction.

    Whites only became domesticated after a ton of liberal social engineering, which blacks were not subjected to. With underclass social dysfunction spreading in the white community and underclass problems that have afflicted the black community increasingly affecting the white community (albeit with less violent crime), this social engineering is being undone.

  51. @Gene Su

    Of course they hide how dysfunctional American whites are becoming, because if you haven’t figured it out already HBD and “race realism” are just about building whites up and denigrating every other group. It’s the white nerd’s equivalent of “we were kings and queens in Africa” The prohlem does lie essentially in the schools. More discipline in the schools – something the Obama admijnistration virtually eliminated – would solve a lot of problems.

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Wally
  52. @RadicalCenter

    In Los Aageles and Denver,yes, but not much in most of the other cities of the southwest to anywhere near the same amount. Not so much in San Diego, not so much in Phoenix, not so much in Tucson, not so much in Albuquerque, and definitely not in El Paso.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  53. @Meretricious

    “dude, it also includes all the black middle classes”

    I think that without government jobs, there would be no black middle class to speak of. Among the middle class black people that I know personally, most are either retired from a government job or currently employed by government of some level. The remaining few that I know are affirmative action hires and I don’t know any middle class black business owners.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    , @Alden
  54. @Dr. X

    No, Dr. X, there has never been a civil war here. There was a war to prevent the secession of some states, but never a civil war, which is a war to take control of an existing government. The Confederate States just seceded, leaving the US government in place.

  55. @daniel le mouche

    nuyorwegian –

    Why are black men about 12 times more likely to perpetrate inter-racial acts of violence than white men?

    Why do so many millions of Negroes fail to pass basic English proficiency exams?

    Why are cities, counties, and countries governed by black majorities almost always a disaster?

    Why are black people far more likely than any other racial group to engage in anti-social behavior?

    Why are blacks far more likely to be born out-of-wedlock than any other racial group?

    Why?

    Instead of addressing these facts, you, like too many, lash out with puerile canards and empty asseverations of “racism” and “white supremacy”.

    That dog won’t hunt.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Wally
  56. Truth says:
    @Colleen Pater

    I have lived in NYC for 60 years I… in short I pass i can use the word nigger in front of niggers and not an eye brow is raised thats how well i pass.

    LMFAO!

    A 60-year old white man who can walk up to some cats he doesn’t know, N-Bomb to his heart’s content and nobody notices?

    Damn WhiteFolks, I heard you died!?!?

  57. Truth says:
    @Wally

    However, there are violent whites, but the numbers are minute when compared to blacks & browns.

    Yeah, but apparently they didn’t BUSS this gentleman in the side of his head. The whiteboyz did.

    • Replies: @Wally
  58. @Bragadocious

    The black underclass doesn’t regard themselves as being your people. They feel no loyalty towards you Why feel loyalty towards them?

  59. @Wally

    Charles Murray, J.D. Vance, and Kevin Williamson have written about the rise of the white underclass, among others.

  60. @Jake

    No group that is in the US is as bad as the black underclass. Or even comes close to being as bad. I suspect how much contact many of the “race realist” posters have had with the black underclass if they think that any other group comes close.

  61. MBlanc46 says:
    @daniel le mouche

    Shipping them out isn’t going to happen. It didn’t happen in the 19th century, it won’t happen in the 21st. As Mr Reed appears to suggest, significant segregation is possible. Most blacks don’t like white people and don’t want to live among us. Black nationalism has had strong support among blacks since the 19th century. Race realists who want to ameliorate racial conflict should support black nationalism.

    • Replies: @joef
  62. MBlanc46 says:
    @joef

    This appears to me to be a pretty accurate prediction of the future of the US.

  63. MBlanc46 says:
    @Gene Su

    No one is forcing you to stay here, pal. If you don’t like it here, leave.

    • Replies: @Anon
  64. MBlanc46 says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    Disaggregation is the only way forward with a reasonably positive outcome. Conflict will almost certainly be involved. Let’s hope that it stops short of full-scale civil war.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
  65. gustafus says:
    @Bragadocious

    Great Sermon by a Black Preacher — BLACKS HAVE A PROBLEM – and it ain’t White.

    That said – Fred talks about blacks unable to suppress harmful urges or understand even horizons.

    In plain English –

    Those with an IQ below 90 cannot participate in self governing Democracy. Deficiencies include, but are not confined to –

    ——Inability to stifle harmful urges [ theft, crime, self destructive behavior]

    ——Cannot defer gratification [ entitled Black Athlete steals on impulse]

    ——Cannot resolve conflict without violence [ crime stats in every black city]

    ——Don’t comprehend the concept of “event horizons” or “intermediate vs final ends, goals”

    So Far – Fred is on the money because the mean IQ of blacks is 80 – 85.

    What he fails to address is his BELOVED MEXICO and parts south – are inhabited by 600 million peasants with a mean IQ of 85.

    Mexico is corrupt to it’s core – racist to its core – and the stratification between dark, Indian low IQ Mexicans and the more educated but equally debased ruling white class… is, well, IQ.

    The Mexico of Fred’s affection is the elitist enclave where he lives among the lighter, brighter, who we see on LATIN TV, the weather channel, and in beauty contests.

    Latin America has all the same problems as we do with race – and does NOTHING to advance the interests of those on the bottom rung — they ship em HERE.

    It’s hard to respect Fred’s insight when the log in his eye came out of his bedroom.

  66. MBlanc46 says:
    @Okechukwu

    Sounds as if you’d be quite happy in a black polity. Let’s work on that together.

  67. MBlanc46 says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Yes, that’s the old Leftist bromide: class differences are real, other differences are invented by the ruling class to divide the workers. I’m not surprised that Howard Zinn believes it. I am surprised that annyone else does.

  68. eah says:
    @nuyorwegian

    Do you have any clear notion of what you are saying?

    Do you have any clear notion of what life will be like for Whites in a majority non-white America?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  69. MBlanc46 says:
    @nuyorwegian

    Living in close proximity to blacks is the principal route to race realism.

  70. MBlanc46 says:
    @Iberiano

    Absolutely. It’s proximity to blacks that causes race realism.

  71. joef says:
    @Gene Su

    Yes you are correct there are thugs in every racial category, but that is pointing out the obvious. However, the real point is not that thugs exist among Non Blacks groups (of course they do), but it is the disproportionate amount of afro american thugs that commit the overwhelming amount of violence in this nation (as reported over the decades by newspapers accounts, and FBI crime reporting data). As compared to Non Blacks, the afros level of homicides committed is truly staggering.

    It is true that cities like New York, and Philly (and others in the BosWash megapolis), there are those who never routinely encountered afro thuggery. But there are also many of us who encountered afros on a semi routine basis, and dealt with their antisocial destructive acts. And actually the ones who have had zero contact are the ones who actually are the problem. Because they are pathologically naive when it comes to racial realism about afros, falsely believing in afros victimhood. Limo Libs rather ignore the afro problem instead of confronting it, and dislike anyone who brings it up.

    They show no empathy for Non Black crime victims, and in the most extreme cases, they actually deny their existence. They rather pander to afro fake victimhood to maintain their stylish Limo Liberal vogue (while the real victims suffer in unacknowledged silence). That it why many of us have learned not to show Limo Libs any sympathy when they finally suffer from the afro Frankenstein monster that they helped to create. Let them receive some of the pain that other Non Blacks had to endure, while the Limo Libs pontificated from afar.

    Being raised in a urban working class ‘Catholic ghetto’ white neighborhood (which included some Puerto Ricans), I knew many bottom feeders within my community that it would be prudent to avoid. Some reformed themselves, some died young, some killed, some alcoholics, some homeless, some in prison, but we were allowed to readily identify them as problem people…

    …only with the afros we are not allowed to honestly identify their criminal actions, and forced to pretend that it is not their fault. This Limo Lib social strategy has lasted because this nation has been in relative prosperity, but as we continue this prolonged recession (or worse devolve in failed state like conditions, and default), the luxury of ignoring this overwhelming afro deviance will be a luxury we can no longer afford.

    • Replies: @Gene Su
  72. gustafus says:
    @nuyorwegian

    I have a clear notion…. I sift my darkies on a need to basis. I am a native of the Rocky Mountain West… Denver has it’s NIGGERS – but they are confined to their ghettos

    The rest of the region has a dusting of this plague… s0 the effects are minimal. That’s how it works best. My UPS driver is black .. and harmless. I wouldn’t trust his kids… but who knows, it might be a success story.

    I have ZERO interest in lasting ties with Blacks or Latinos, Muslims or Eskimos. I’ve had a taste of all of em… and I don’t like it.

    Hamilton’s Rule…. we care for and protect those who look and act like we do. When the aforementioned begin to comport themselves like me and mine… I will carefully allow them to get closer to that which I love.

  73. Malla says:

    Check this out

    Black Africans are still slaves in Yemen

    Treated like shit in Iraq

    In Israel

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppe0D5gKE_U

    In India

    In North Africa auctioned as slaves

    Yet we see no Black lives matters in any of those places, no Al Sharpton, no funding from Soros for anything. Strange they attack a civilization which has stopped black slavery, given them a very high standard of living, excessive attention in the media but are completely quite about those places where are are treated like shit and enslaved.

  74. https://www.amren.com/news/2017/12/boyfriend-colorado-woman-arrested-murder-four-years-went-missing/

    Jungle Fever too addictive to white women.

    It will be the end of the white race, esp as tens and then 100s of millions of black Africans will swarm into Europe.

  75. @Anonymous

    HBD types have acknowledged, and have even proposed a mechanism that explains the “white backsliding”…

    It’s called assortative mating. See: “Coming Apart” by Charles Murray

  76. MBlanc46 says:
    @Twodees Partain

    In the last figures that I saw, 60% of black college graduates work for government.

  77. @gustafus

    It’s not IQ. It’s the failure of the unionized educational system, it is illegitimacy, it is welfare. and it is the general erosion of standards.

    • Replies: @woodNfish
    , @Vincent
  78. @MBlanc46

    I too hope for some solution, and disaggregation is a good term, without a full-blown racial civil war. As Enoch Powell noted, however, if you predict something, you are accused of causing, or hoping for it. Certainly not in my case.

    But black attitudes towards whites are more complex than some commentators suggest. While it is certainly true blacks don’t like whites, they do tend to like the kind of society whites create: the lights stay on and the malt liquor’s on the convenience store shelf. Black nationalists generally want some kind of long-term white involvement–even they can see the disasters in Africa, Haiti, Detroit and Baltimore.

  79. re the “solution” to the Negro problem: well, there is none that I know of, short of mandatory sterilization for underclass blacks. The major problem is that blacks, without whites, are helpless. They know this, so the idea that we can convince the Negroes to band together and start their own nation is a farce

    • Replies: @woodNfish
  80. My forefathers tried to hack it amidst their own developed and educated world but were overwhelmed. So they struck out for the Americas, where plagues had emptied whole villages of inhabitants before them.

    My wife and I are asking ourselves whether we should learn from their example. Things point to SE Asia for us. What would be the point of clinging to Rome as it burns?

    If you’re more of a swashbuckler type then why not a mine in Afghanistan or the Congo. I can see how appealing it would be to have a private mercenary army. Twin belt-fed .30 caliber machine guns on jeeps. Hum Vees pulling rocket launchers. Bags of gold and gems.

    Someone sufficiently fed up with affirmative action, feminism, PC tyranny – that would surely charm them. It’s a little too rustic for me. But my ancestors had to fight Indians and French, British and the occasional pirates. So I should carry the flag in some kind of challenge short of mass murder and mayhem.

  81. Alden says:
    @Wally

    I don’t believe Gene Su either. What gives away the lie is the claim the attackers were Irish and Italian. The Irish and Italians moved to the suburbs generations ago.

    Irish and Italian punks was a big city 1940′s thing. For a true tale of how Asian kids were and are treated by black thugs read China Boy by Gus Lee.

    Gus grew up I’m 1950s San Francisco inner Richmond district. The neighborhood then and now is Asian and White. But his elementary school was just on the boundary between his neighborhood and a black neighborhood. The book’s his auto biography. He and the few White and Asian kids were so abused and beaten by the blacks that his Dad sent him to the YMCA for self defense classes when he was 7 or 8.. This was in the early 1950s long before judo became a popular kids activity.

    The longest running anti bussing lawsuit in the country was filed by the Chinese of San Francisco in I believe 1966 when the unspeakably evil federal judges ordered school busing. The Chinese lost and filed again. They lost and filed again . It went on for decades.

    • Replies: @Gene Su
  82. @Bragadocious

    “Fred’s schtick is obvious. It’s to get people ginned up about the black menace so they’re compliant about accepting 30 million Jose Zarates into the country.

    “Can Unz fire Reed and hire Allan Wall instead? He’s much better.” — Bragadcious

    I had to google Allan Wall, and looks worth another look sometime — so thanks for that.

    BTW: I don’t think that you have Fred’s ‘schtick’ exactly right. As I recall he has suggested that there are already 30 million illegal or undocumented Mexicans here, and he asks of us, or of anyone, what can seriously be done about it? Fred has doubted that the policies that brought the 30 million were sound, but still here we are today, and who has any good proposals for what is to be done?

    Thank you, Ronnie.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  83. woodNfish says:

    “We are doomed.”

    What do you mean, “We”, Reed? You bailed to Mexico, remember? You aren’t going to convince me your third world brown neighbors are any better than our blacks. I read the news about the murders and beheadings in Mexico.

  84. woodNfish says:
    @Meretricious

    True. The only reason we are no longer seeing famine in Africa and India is because the white West has poured trillions of dollars into both shitholes.

  85. woodNfish says:
    @Hare Krishna

    No, it is the normal state of being black. Africa and the ME are proof.

  86. woodNfish says:

    Over the past few years I have had to modify my views on abortion. I am against most white abortion only. Black abortion is a positive event.

    • Replies: @Iberiano
    , @Corvinus
  87. woodNfish says:

    Sorry Fred, but you can’t objectively look at Africa, the ME and the scourge of black immigration into white Europe and believe what you say is true. The evidence does not support your claim.

  88. @Anonymouse

    Would you move to a neighborhood that was all Black? . . . I didn’t think so,

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  89. Vinteuil says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    “Of all the cucked things Trump has done, intervening on behalf of those basketball players to win their release was among the most egregious.”

    No. He played that like a true shitlord. He went above & beyond the call of duty for those morlocks, and then called them out for their ingratitude, as necessary.

    It was a thing of beauty.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  90. @nuyorwegian

    Manhattan, which is all Harlem is, is not reality. I’ve lived there. I’ve also been way out in Brooklyn and Queens around 3pm when school lets out, on the subway–god help anyone in that situation. But much worse than much of New York–Disneyland–are places like Philly, the whole south and west side of Chicago, DC, Baltimore, New Orleans, Cleveland and many more. I’ve spent years living around, working with, being somewhat friends with, and trying to help blacks. Many of them were warm people. This does not negate my point, that people prefer their own ethnic groups. The greatest problem as to blacks is anyone from the age of about 5 to 35–a rather large problem! This includes extremely agressive and violent females. And their whole culture is sickening to me: the shit music especially (no, not Marvin Gaye, not Louis Armstrong, but the likes of Rhianna, and the hordes of shitstick rappers).
    But to repeat: NYC is not reality, except to New Yorkers, who can’t imagine life anywhere else.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  91. Okechukwu says:
    @Jimmy the Fish

    Would you move to a neighborhood that was all Black? . . . I didn’t think so,

    If you would choose a white trailer trash shithole over a solid middle or upper class black neighborhood you’re even dumber than your posts would seem to indicate.

  92. pyrrhus says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Black culture only reflects the fact that American blacks are one standard deviation less intelligent than whites and asians, and have the poor impulse control that comes along with that fact. Admittedly, the culture was somewhat better when blacks grew up mostly in two parent families, before the Democrats invented ADC and other ways of banishing black fathers from the family.

  93. TER says:

    Wow!! I am once again overwhelmed by Fred’s brilliance. My hat is off to him, because I assume it really IS very difficult to regurgitate dumbed down versions of observations made repeatedly by other, more gifted writers. I hope this ass clown isn’t actually being PAID for this garbage.

    Thank goodness the Mexican/Latin American hordes pouring over the border AREN’T anything like the useless blacks Fred writes about. If they were, I’m sure he would have let us know.

    Go away, Fred. You suck.

  94. @Peter Akuleyev

    ‘Lowe class whites in the UK and Russia are every bit as dysfunctional as American blacks, which suggests that socialist economic policies and welfare certainly don’t help.’

    Don’t know about Russia, but do the UK. I agree the white trash here of all classes, but especially the lowest classes, is abominable. (Don’t think I simply despise lower class people. I do not. But in America, where the majority don’t even know there IS a class system, poorer people are much more open to, well, everything–ideas, hope of a better world, you name it. In England people all seem to be in a rut, in good part no doubt because of the welfare state, but this same welfare system takes very much of the edge off that you see in America: people may still be fairly miserable and hopeless, but they’re nowhere near so violent.) But please stop comparing blacks and whites. The thugs who populate American cities are very often aggressive and violent, especially towards whites. As an earlier commenter from New York noted, you can’t walk down the street in many areas of big American cities without being accosted, or at least witnessing unbelievable behavior from one or more of these goons. And still there’s that big question: why the giant phoney populist movements (eg BLM), why the complete lack of media coverage of B on W crime? (Most at Unz know the answer, so the question is rhetorical.)

  95. @RadicalCenter

    ‘as soon as you go to the downtown, there they are, ready and eager to glare, to block your way on the sidewalk, intimidate’

    You’ve reminded me of my Philly years, and how walking between Walnut and Market on 11th Street, you literally couldn’t do it with being played ‘Chicken’ with by some black thug, and I mean every one you encountered. White boy moves, or white boy gets a hard shoulder, followed up very likely by much worse. Or giving money to a homeless guy and him smacking it out of my hand because it wasn’t enough. Or never being able to walk a block with my black girlfriend without (and usually I wouldn’t even hold her hand in public) being verbally abused and intimidated, often by groups of older, very angry negroid men. Or…. Or…. Or….

  96. Iberiano [AKA "Scotty"] says:
    @woodNfish

    Wood,

    I’ve wondered how liberals would react if they started hearing, all the sudden, Alt-righters being FOR abortion. Since it’s big business for the left and their handlers, they probably would not functionally change any of it, but on the surface, they’d have to “stand united” against the “racism” of the Alt-Right for being for it.

    What’s interesting is that pro-abortion study done a few years back that everyone on the left was quoting, one of those “abortion is actually good, because it prevents more criminals from being born” arguments…one wonders if they realized the underlying truth of the stats and WHY crime would be worse if abortion were truly not just illegal, but way less available.

    If the Alt-right started being pro-abortion, even without saying why, overtly, it would put they left in a weird situation where THEY would have to articulate WHY they are against the Alt-Right being for it…accidentally admitting it’s due to the high rate/proportion of black babies being aborted.

    Richard Spencer should try it.

  97. Fred forgot to mention that Chicago has a much higher proportion of Latin American / Chicanos / Hispanics than Ballmer. LA county has 622 murders in the last twelve months … many Latinos count among those dead.

    Could it be that the poor black folk just aren’t as good at murder as their Latino / Hispanic / Chicano peers?

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  98. Fred is obviously terrified of being called “antisemitic.”

  99. anyone who argues that black criminality is the same as Hispanic or white criminality is insane. Go to Colin Flaherty’s YouTube channel. Blacks are a distinct subspecies

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  100. Corvinus says:
    @daniel le mouche

    “And thoughtful, honest whites will remember their own heritage…”

    White people do remember their own heritage, as well as the heritages of their non-white neighbors. Just because they engage in this conduct does not mean they are thoughtless and dishonest.

    “not fall for Jew propaganda of multicultural utopia…”

    It’s not Jew propaganda. Rather, it is people who prefer to live and interact among different groups.

    “and realize in great numbers, again–not long ago, most did–that they don’t want to be around these fuckers anyway, no matter what”

    SOME white people, like yourself, feel that way. But white normies will make their own racial decisions.

  101. Corvinus says:
    @Realist

    “Yes, the miscegenation promoted by the media and big corporations is amazing.”

    So what? Feel free to not mix with other races. But realize that there is nothing inherently immoral with the mixing of the races.

    “The good point is that only stupid whites would be persuades by these ads.”

    Right, tens of millions of white people who have high IQ are somehow “stupid” because they believe in treating people with dignity and respect, and also believe that freedom of association means that white people may interact, date, and mate with non-white people.

  102. Okechukwu says:
    @Meretricious

    anyone who argues that black criminality is the same as Hispanic or white criminality is insane. Go to Colin Flaherty’s YouTube channel. Blacks are a distinct subspecies

    Yet the Hispanics in Mexico are cutting off more heads than ISIS.

    Yet MS-13 is the most brutal street gang ever seen in America.

    White criminality? Much more pervasive and destructive to society. Example, the white Wall Street crooks that nearly destroyed this country back in 2008. They certainly destroyed tens of millions of lives.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
  103. Corvinus says:
    @Iberiano

    “Middle class blacks are very dangerous, because RegressionToTheMean, and that nice black family down the street will likely have children who are dangerous, or those “visiting cousins” in which one will try to attack your child or break into your car or home.”

    I’m sure you have statistics at the ready demonstrating clearly how these middle class blacks are very dangerous, right?

    • Replies: @Meretricious
    , @KenH
    , @Alden
  104. Corvinus says:
    @Dr. X

    “Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.”

    So what definition are you employing here? In other words, is it YOUR definition or one that is from a source? Please specify.

  105. @Okechukwu

    ‘a solid middle or upper class black neighborhood’

    Show me one. I’ve literally NEVER seen one.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  106. @Okechukwu

    “white trailer trash shithole”

    Mara-Lago?

    Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government?

    The SPLC’s Montgomery Alabama office?

  107. Corvinus says:
    @eah

    “Do you have any clear notion of what life will be like for Whites in a majority non-white America?”

    We can speculate. That is, you do not have a clear notion, but just a guess. But if I had to hazard one, Generation Z is the bell weather here, as it reflects a demographic shift, one who generally exhibits positive feelings about ethnic diversity in America and is more likely than older generations to have social circles that include different ethnic groups, races, and religions.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Father O'Hara
  108. Corvinus says:
    @woodNfish

    “Over the past few years I have had to modify my views on abortion. I am against most white abortion only. Black abortion is a positive event.”

    Then you are a hypocrite on the value of human life. Congratulations.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  109. @The Alarmist

    Do you have any evidence to support the implication that Latinos have, as a matter of fact, committed

    (a) the majority of Chicago’s murders this year?

    (b) last year?

    (c) the year before?

    (d) more of Chicago’s murders than blacks this year?

    (e) last year?

    (f) the year before?

    (g) Chicago’s murders in a percentage greater than their percentage of the total population this year?

    (h) last year?

    (i) the year before?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  110. Corvinus says:
    @Malla

    “More like Jewish…”

    According to Bertram W. Korn’s research (Jews and Negro Slavery in the Old South, 1789-1865), census records and slave purchasing documents show that southern Jews “who owned slaves were concentrated in cities, not in the plantation districts containing ninety percent of the enslaved population. For example, there were only four Jews – less than one-tenth of one percent – among the 11,000 Southerners who in 1830 owned fifty or more slaves.”

    According to David Brion Davis, Professor of History Emeritus at Yale University, he writes “To keep matters in perspective, we should note that in the American South, in 1830, there were only 120 Jews among the 45,000 slaveholders owning twenty or more slaves and only twenty Jews among the 12,000 slaveholders owning fifty or more slaves. Even if each member of this Jewish slaveholding elite had owned 714 slaves—a ridiculously high figure in the American South—the total number would only equal the 100,000 slaves owned by black and colored planters in St. Domingue in 1789, on the eve of the Haitian Revolution…Of course, some Jews were involved in the slave trade. Every European Western nation was. There were also some regions in which the slave trade was more accessible to Jews—Rhode Island, Newport, Holland, to name a few striking examples. The Dutch Jews weren’t persecuted, so there were quite a few who were involved.”

    • Replies: @Malla
  111. It is semi-illiteracy by choice. We are doomed.

    No Fred, WE are not doomed. THEY are doomed – by choice.

  112. KenH says:
    @Hare Krishna

    The problem does lie essentially in the schools. More discipline in the schools – something the Obama admijnistration virtually eliminated – would solve a lot of problems.

    Oh boy do you have rose colored glasses. If you impose discipline in the schools and make blacks meet the same standards as whites that is racist and blacks will raise hell like always. So whites move away and build new schools until the blacks follow them and the process starts over again. Besides, there is intense peer pressure in the black community to be a gangsta and thug. Acting respectable is selling out to whitey. Most black men have no fathers and that’s not going to change.

    You act like pre-Obama murica had few racial problems and that black violence, dysfunction and indiscipline only resulted from eight years of his presidency.

    Separation is the only answer.

    • Replies: @Hare Krishna
  113. Wally says:
    @Hare Krishna

    They do?

    Who is “they”?

    Compared to blacks? Not even close.

    Again, read Color of Crime.

  114. Okechukwu says:
    @daniel le mouche

    Show me one. I’ve literally NEVER seen one.

    You don’t want to. You’re not interested in reality. All that matters is your agenda.

    • Replies: @Sollipsist
  115. @Okechukwu

    bad comparison: MS-13, like the American mafia, is business violence

  116. @Corvinus

    Obama, Holder et al. are very dangerous: they are the intellectual leaders of the underclass

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  117. @Corvinus

    Name one independently successful black-majority city or country. The former British colonies of Africa were able to import European-based technology to increase the life spans of those populations. Would those improvements in living conditions have taken place independently if the British had never arrived? No way.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  118. @gustafus

    gustafus,

    I do not agree with your criticism of Fred Reed; however, I do agree with many of the ideas of Dr. Manning. I’ve watched/listened to his sermons before and he is very impressive. I believe he is a true Christian and a brave man.

  119. @Achmed E. Newman

    Mr. Reed makes a point to criticize them. Fred Reed loves to complain, but will not offer any solutions and hates those who do.

    Wrong. If you re-read Fred’s article, toward the end you will find that he hints at returning to the only solution that has ever worked, which is segregation of blacks from non-blacks.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  120. Okechukwu says:
    @Meretricious

    bad comparison: MS-13, like the American mafia, is business violence

    All street crime is business violence.

    But what difference does couching it in terms of “business” make? The victim isn’t any less dead because it’s business. Society isn’t any less harmed because it’s business. That’s literally stupid.

    • Replies: @Meretricious
  121. @Anonymous

    Add up all of the crimes of blacks, and it does not come close to the cost of white collar crime from white people.

    I would like to see even the laziest effort to quantitatively back this up. Let me break out pen and napkin to get some inkling of how off the mark it is. Take, for example, the real estate losses in Detroit, as just one isolated example. In 1950, the population of the city was 1.8 million. At an average person per household of 3 (anyone know if is this close?), adjusted upwards a little from today’s number of 2.58, that would be about 600,000 homes. At that time, Detroit was considered one of the most important and sought-after cities in the United States. So I could probably reasonably go on the very high end when estimating what those houses might be worth today if the racial order had been maintained. But I’ll be conservative, since it will just lead to an endless counterfactual debate about the auto industry etc.

    Today, at a rate of 2.58 people per household, it means that there are approximately 260,773 residential units in the city. That means 339,000 homes simply disappeared. Between Devil’s Night and slum clearance, it’s no mystery where they all went, especially to anyone who’s ever toured the rubble.

    I’ll avoid factoring in distracting yet substantive things like the widespread partitioning of the remaining homes into rental properties, which may mean the 260,773 number above is massively overstated, nor will I attempt to address commercial real estate, which, at least at first glance, is probably in considerably worse condition than its residential counterpart across most of the city. Let’s just bear in mind that this is likely to be an absolute lower-bound estimate.

    The median home price in Detroit, according to Zillow is $45,000.

    The median home price in mostly white Traverse City, Michigan, a city with similar housing stock from a similar period in a similar location, is $224,000. If we assume the difference between the two prices is equal to the single-home “black dysfunction premium”, then the total black dysfunction premium incurred by Detroit residential real estate owners since 1950 $46,678,367,000. On top of that, there has been an outright 339,000*$224,000 = $75,936,000,000 loss on the housing units that have simply disappeared. The total residential real estate loss in Detroit, due almost entirely to the unoppressed unconstrained presence of blacks, is about $123 billion dollars.

    This number is likely to be a severe underestimate, as evidenced by the fact that, at the point of its peak population in 1950, Detroit was considered one of the three top cities in America. A more appropriate baseline non-Africanized housing price for comparative purposes might be San Francisco or New York. Instead, Traverse City, a nice but not overly industrious Midwestern town, was used. Nor have we even attempted to look at the probably much worse asset history of commercial real estate in the city.

    This is but one tiny stroke in the Jackson Pollack portrait of American racial strife, all attributable to black crime. And the described losses affected real people and families deeply. It wasn’t a gentlemanly game of multi-billionaire Jew rips off just-billionaire Jew, as played out in so many white collar crimes.

    • Agree: Grandpa Charlie
    • Replies: @Miro23
  122. Rurik says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    but still here we are today, and who has any good proposals for what is to be done?

    first things first..

    here’s what the SJW are saying:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/09/what-it-will-take-for-president-trump-to-deport-millions-and-build-the-wall/?utm_term=.a01f75e8d622

    • Replies: @Grandpa Charlie
  123. MarkinLA says:
    @JessicaR

    I talked with a black veteran of the Afghanistan war who objected to the term “African-American” because he felt that after serving his country, he deserved to just be an American and not a separate kind of American.

    I am not the one demanding that blacks be called African-American, they are the ones demanding it.

  124. MarkinLA says:
    @fnn

    Your post is sarcasm right? You are making fun of anybody who would write such a stupid article aren’t you? If the Japanese need Japanese babies, they can create policies that will produce all they need.

  125. @Anonymous

    It is white collar crime that is almost exclusively the domain of white people.

    I totally disagree. Considering the low number of blacks in white collar jobs, a very large percentage of that number are eventually caught with their hands in the cookie jar. In fact, it occurs on such a regular basis until it’s practically expected.

  126. @Truth

    A lot of white hos is, uh, more marketable

    Pimpin ain’t PC.

    • Replies: @Truth
  127. KenH says:

    This nation has bankrupted itself and destroyed countless white neighborhoods, schools, businesses and lives in a vain effort to placate ungrateful and unworthy blacks and achieve interracial amity. It’s been an abject failure. As mother used to say you can’t fool mother nature and America hasn’t.

    The dirty little black on white race war that Paul Sheehan wrote about in 1995 and which commenced in earnest in 1965 with forcible integration shows no signs of abating. Racial separation is the only sensible solution and that’s unlikely as long as Jews wield the awesome power that they do. And things could get worse since Communist party USA (formerly the Democrats) are readying a lineup of fire breathing black and Latino bigots and self hating whites as 2020 presidential candidates.

    Fredrico has always hits grand slams when writing about the negro plague in America. He tends to write his best when he doesn’t have a dog in the fight (lives in may-hee-co and dates or is married to a Latina). But if he ever starts dating a black woman he’ll probably be whistling a different tune and tell us how great blacks really are and if whites were a little less racist and gas station loutish that race relations would be much better.

  128. @Corvinus

    “Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.”

    The statement is so obviously true, until it needs no explanation.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  129. Item in today’s sport page: West Point football coach having hard time recruiting football players. He interviewed several high school prospects and they admitted they had not heard of West Point. Can you imagine having a “student-athlete” playing for you who is so damn dumb he never heard of West Point? How in the world could he pass the entrance exams or hope to maintain passing grades in math courses. Is it just possible these potential military officers stay on at West Point, passing grades not withstanding , in order that this institution of higher learning can field a viable football team? The article did not mention the race of the high school prospects, but it would seem Blacks are the only ones capable of playing high level football if the teams we see in the NFL or major colleges are representative.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  130. Truth says:
    @Meretricious

    They’re all business, Old Sport, they have a negotiation with you, and want to leave the negotiation with more money than they entered.

  131. Truth says:
    @Negrolphin Pool

    Hey! I’m glad you watched WhiteFolks! That was a free Game seminar for you, now Bro, please hit happy hour tomorrow after work and use what you’ve learned.

    Put them Hoez on PimpArrest.

    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
  132. KenH says:
    @Corvinus

    You missed the point. Regression to the mean implies that children of parents with above average or exceptional intelligence will generally lie closer to the mean of the IQ distribution among that particular group.

    The mean IQ for blacks is 85 while the mean IQ for whites is 100 and that’s a big difference. So just because a middle class black couple has an IQ of 110 doesn’t necessarily mean their offspring will inherit the same intellectual capacity. It could be the group mean or somewhere in between 85 and 110.

  133. danand says:

    From Wiki – “Studies have found differences in the frequency distribution of variants of the MAOA (AKA warrior) gene between ethnic groups: of the participants, 59% of Black men, 54% of Chinese men, 56% of Maori men, and 34% of Caucasian men carried the 3R allele, while 5.5% of Black men, 0.1% of Caucasian men, and 0.00067% of Asian men carried the 2R allele.”

    Any real hope of a true remedy lies within genetic engineering. Retain the color, remove the violent impulse, and boost the intellect. Win, win, winning – happy rap for all.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Sin City Milla
  134. @Okechukwu

    please visit Colin Flaherty’s YouTube videos. This is too silly to discuss

  135. @Corvinus

    Yes I see that in advertising. All these good-looking young whites having fun and theres always one sweater clad Negro. The proverbial black friend.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  136. joef says:
    @silviosilver

    I too have wondered whether accounts of racial problems provided by the Jared Taylors of the world are trustworthy. I think there is a definite tendency among pro-whites to exaggerate the extent of racial problems. All the same, the broad outlines of racial differences in violence and criminality are unmistakable.

    As someone who lived with it for a very long time (as well as others I know with similar backgrounds to myself), I can assure you of that the misfortune of dealing with afros is very very real, which has resulted in many many severe outcomes. Do not underestimate it. It is the liberal MSM who are doing the exaggerating by ignoring the great number of victims from afro initiated violence. This can be readily confirmed by prolonged living in close proximity to afro ghettos. However, I would not recommend you becoming a victim to afro violent crime; or if you prevail against afro aggression, convicted by an overzealous prosecutor for committing a hate crime, with the MSM labeling you as a vigilante (how dare we defend ourselves; we all should be willing victims to afro atrocities; after all this is just payback for the misbegotten gains of white privilege, even if you’r Hispanic/Asian).

  137. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    I invite you to read the book

    https://www.amazon.in/Secret-Relationship-Between-Blacks-Jews/dp/0963687700

    It will prove beyond doubt about the massive Jewish influence on the slave trade. It was basically a Jewish thing.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  138. Gene Su says:
    @joef

    Yes you are correct there are thugs in every racial category, but that is pointing out the obvious.

    Please note that I am not trying to let blacks off the hook or downplay their dysfunctional behavior. I am trying to state the reason why I think a lot of whites are fooled into thinking that there is no black thug problem. If the white delinquency and criminal problem was lessened, the black thug class would stick out as a sorer thumb.

    This Limo Lib social strategy has lasted because this nation has been in relative prosperity, but as we continue this prolonged recession (or worse devolve in failed state like conditions, and default), the luxury of ignoring this overwhelming afro deviance will be a luxury we can no longer afford.

    Perhaps the best thing that can happen to America is for a complete economic and social collapse. Such an event will break the welfare/warfare state as well as Leftist control.

    • Replies: @joef
  139. Alden says:
    @Twodees Partain

    National review published stats that showed 85 percent of employed blacks work for government or quasi government places such as hospitals.

  140. Gene Su says:
    @nuyorwegian

    To nuyorwegian:

    I am going to give you a fair warning: You might be deceived by your personal experiences. Black Americans are far more segregated along class lines than their white counterparts. In particular, black parents of the middle class do NOT allow their children to mix with the children of the underclass. This goes double in a place like New York. You can live a lifetime in New York and not have any contact with the black thug element. Pick the right neighborhood and you’ll only be dealing with well-groomed, soft spoken, intelligent blacks.

  141. Corvinus says:
    @Meretricious

    “Obama, Holder et al. are very dangerous: they are the intellectual leaders of the underclass.”

    Using your own metric, one could say Steve Sailer, Heartiste, Brett Stevens, and John Derbyshire are also “very dangerous”, as they are the intellectual leaders of the (white) underclass by peddling sophistry like race realism and the social-sexual hierarchy.

  142. Gene Su says:
    @Wally

    I find it quite annoying when conservatives (especially those at Takimag) pen emotional essays delineating how violent black bullies can be (which are true) but then sneer at liberals who sometimes support blacks as “Jews who were beaten up as kids by gentiles.” You sound like you are doing the same.

    I did have a look at that report and some of the statistics that it is citing. A couple of points stood out at me.

    It might be true that more than half of all US murders are committed by blacks, despite the fact they only make about 15% of the nation’s population. However, most murders perpetrated by blacks are inflicted on other blacks. Most other crime categories have blacks over-represented but not by much. This proves my point about how whites are fooled because they are not often on the receiving end of black crime. Most whites personally deal with white criminals, not blacks.

  143. joef says:
    @Dave

    I’ve lived in NYC for my entire adult life, since 1988, and I find it hard to believe you’ve lived in Harlem for 40 years and seen no violence or dysfunction. To be honest, I think your full of it.

    Yes, a person who advances an obvious falsehood, in an attempt to convince others with his fake propaganda, should not be trusted. I remember around 1990 when Harlem was described by a news source as the most violent square mile in America. It is amazing how libs & leftist even ignore the Black victims of afro violent crime. I bet he didn’t see the ubiquitous public urination, and the one story trash piles between alleyways of buildings either, because the residents were too lazy to put it in a trash can (and then blamed the White man for it). When the rest of America stops tolerating the intolerable (which will eventually be forced by our major economic decline), it will not go well for the afros. But they have no one to blame but themselves, for they chose their course of action against us.

    • Replies: @David In TN
  144. @Okechukwu

    Why do clueless people assume that a white person living in a trailer is trash?

    Many elderly people living on a fixed income live in trailers because they are cheap. They own the trailer and so have an incentive to keep them neat and tidy. They are cozy homes. Better own a humble trailer and accrue equity than rent and watch money spiral down the drain.

  145. Corvinus says:
    @Jesse James

    “There is no nonblack nation, even among the most liberal ones, where the black man is dignified. History dealt us an unforgiving blow in the incursion of foreigners into black lands. The Arabs enslaved tribes and nations and then colonized and evangelized them. Then came the Europeans, who, persuaded the Africans were of an inferior race, divided up the continent over lunch in Berlin in 1884. They carted off a large population of its people — sometimes leaving entire villages almost empty — and brought those who remained on the continent under their rule. So complete was the transformation that no black nation retained its ancestral nationhood, national language, or national identity. And today we often hear of how China or India or some other nation is “taking over” Africa economically. There is almost no nation whose majority is of a different race that has not spat on the face of the black person, at one time or the other.”

    Chigozie Obioma

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.

    Now, if you want to actually want to engage in debate, offer the metrics as to what constitutes “successful”.

  146. Alden says:
    @Corvinus

    What Scotty says is true. In every city and county jail there are affirmative action black clerks medics and guards. At The beginning of every shift the affirmative employees blacks discover that their dads, siblings, uncles cousins baby daddies and other relatives were just booked in.

    By about my 20th year as a Probation officer, the late 1980s I began to notice that the mothers of many of the under 25 black criminals were very well paid affirmative action government employees.

    Here is a home buying hint. Never buy in a rural town that has a state prison. Prison work is an affirmative action black and brown monopoly It’s no Whites need apply. If you live in a town where a prison is planned MOVE

    The well paid prison black employees thug spawn will ruin the school system with their noise, violence, and thuggery. The black kids will prey on everyone. The Hispanic prison employees will behave like Whites, normally.

    I only post what I know

    • Replies: @Truth
  147. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @silviosilver

    People who assume those who disagree with them tend not to be very bright tend not to be very bright. I’ll leave you to work out the implications.

  148. @Carroll Price

    You write that Mr. Reed “hinted” at a solution in this post, but I have read many Fred Reed articles (here on unz.com and previously on FredOnEverything). I am looking at the big picture of this guy’s writings, not just this one article, Mr. Price.

    Mr. Reed bad-mouths people like Jared Taylor, who, always in a good-natured way, tries to discuss solutions for the racial problems on Amren. On the whole Hispanic invasion, Mr. Reed indeed just punts, and says “oh, there’s nothing we can do now.” Bull. He also bad-mouths the VDare writers whose site has been writing about the illegal and legal immigration problem for more than 15 years. Reed criticizes anyone who comes up with concrete ideas.

    It’s easy being a curmdeon, but some people have to take care of the problems, and not sit on their asses in their bug-out location having siestas and living off the reputation of the US dollar.

  149. Corvinus says:
    @Malla

    “It will prove beyond doubt about the massive Jewish influence on the slave trade. It was basically a Jewish thing.”

    Not quite. Please educate yourself regarding the major criticisms of that book.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Relationship_Between_Blacks_and_Jews#Critical_reception

    Originally, Professor Martin made this claim —> “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent. So according to an analysis of the 1830 census by Jewish historians, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.”

    There are several problems here. First, the 1830 census did NOT specify slaveholders and their religious affiliation. Second, if one says rawly that “75 percent of Jewish households owned slaves, according to the 1830 census”, was the possession of slaves due to the fact of being Jew or being wealthy? One must delve into the number of Jewish families who were wealthy and owned slaves and who were wealthy and did not own slaves, and compare them to whites in the same two categories. Martin ought to have figures showing correlation of household wealth to slaveowner households and show that indeed Jewish households of the period tended to be be among wealthier households. It could just be a coincidental correspondence between economic status and slaveowner rather than religion and slaveowner. Third, Martin claims that this number came from Jewish historians, but from what particular source? Why should we automatically assume that this statistic is valid if Martin did not offer exactly where it came from and how it was generated, given that Jews are allegedly liars and thieves?

    Winthrop D. Jordan’s article in the Atlantic, “Slavery and the Jews” stated, “In order to assess such a claim, one must resort to details. Martin’s purported actuality [the 75% statistic] is wrong on its face if applied to the “white population” of the United States “as a whole,” because in 1830 only a handful of white northerners still owned slaves. Jews were concentrated in the North, and they constituted a very small minority there. Even if the statement is taken as applying only to the states in the American South that had not adopted gradual emancipation laws, it remains badly flawed. A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact. In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion. It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.”

  150. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Gene Su

    You can live in NYC and not come into contact with the underclass, I’ll give you that. But Newark? Newark?? Are you out of your mind?

    I’m a very obviously half-South-Asian kid who was never bothered on account of race. Except very occasionally, and then by blacks.

  151. Corvinus says:
    @Carroll Price

    “The statement is so obviously true, until it needs no explanation.”

    Apparently you lack the intellectual horsepower to offer an explanation as to the meaning of “Civilized societies,” by definition, do not have blacks.”

    It’s OK to be white, but not white and stupid.

    • Replies: @Anon
  152. Corvinus says:
    @danand

    The results of any study regarding the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene should be interpreted with caution in light of a number of limitations that need to be addressed in replication studies.

    First, the measures of psychopathic personality traits, ever arrested, and ever incarcerated were based on self reports, not official data. Although self-reports have been shown to be reliable and valid instruments for assessing antisocial phenotypes (Krueger et al., 1994; Sutton, 2010), it is possible that official crime data would have produced differing results.

    Second, the measures of criminal justice outcomes did not delineate between different types of offenders, such as violent predatory offenders versus non-violent property offenders. Perhaps the 2-repeat allele would have varying effects on different subcategories of offenders.

    Third, the sample analyzed in the current study is the same as the one analyzed in Guo et al.’s (2008) study. While some studies examined different outcome measures and focused only on African-American males, it is important that future studies estimate the association between the 2-repeat allele and antisocial phenotypes in other samples.

    Last, although the frequency of the 2-repeat allele is similar to prior research, only about 5% of the final analytical sample carried the 2-repeat allele. Future research needs to examine much larger samples in order to include more 2-repeat allele carriers.

  153. gp says:

    “Oh blessed inaccuracy. In poor marksmanship lies our hope.” In Rockford, the thugs’ gunfight of choice is car-to-car engagements. They know they have zero chance of hitting their intended targets. They do it to impress each other, for cred, for fun.

    “[Do black folk] help their kids with their homework?” Increase the American school year from 180 days to 240 days. Eliminate homework: all work done in school, no more excuses. Sixty more days a year the little monsters (of all races) are off the streets. Make the teachers work as many days a year as everybody else has to; they’re getting very well compensated.

    One thing Fred didn’t suggest was to build more prisons. We need to build lots more prisons, and we need to vehemently shame judges and parole boards whenever their stupid leniency gets people injured and killed.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  154. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Gene Su

    “Most whites have ZERO contact with the black underclass. You can live in a city like New York, Newark, or Philadelphia all your life and not have any contact with the thug sector. Unless you are a cop or social worker, your daily routine will probably not include interaction with them.”

    It’s true that many whites, especially among the ranks of the liberal spoiled elite types get to keep their romantic fantasies of the magic negro, wise latinas, Urkel black engineers, etc from minimal contact with blacks, but we’re talking Vermont and Massachusetts whites, not Newark, NYC or Philly whites.

  155. llloyd says: • Website

    I live in China. I was puzzled by the ten year sentence apparently believed by all American commentators. I did check. It would count as a crime spree and therefore would have received a prison sentence of perhaps ten months. A confidential recommendation by Trump or American Embassy would have most likely got them the next air tickets back to America. And a ban on future visits to China or large fine. I could point out. They were young sportsman not black chess player champions.

  156. joef says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Scotty, you took the words right out of my mouth. Where are these magical cities where one can take the train, take the bus, walk to lunch or dinner, go shopping, etc., without encountering hostile and rude and often menacing Africans?

    It was certainly that way during the old days in the da Bronx. When aggressive afros got defeated from a strong defensive response, they almost never took their beating like a man (White man racist for not allowing me to attack him for no reason). One day we will no longer tolerate the intolerable, and the majority of afros have only themselves to blame. IF they do not want this outcome they should accept responsibility, stop hating without cause, and change their ways now ( unfortunately, there is not much hope for this to happen).

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @RadicalCenter
  157. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    “It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.”

    Only if you believe leftist agitprop. Or smoke hellacious levels of weed. Probably many college leftist useful idiots do plenty of both, which is why this nonsense is so popular among those circles.

    • Replies: @Anon
  158. gp says:

    “blacks cannot compete … I think we all know this … liberals know it” Nuh-uh. Liberals are utterly convinced that there is no such thing as race, or if there is, that it is no more than skin color. This is their most militant, unshakable belief. They are angrily blind to contrary evidence. It is their religion.

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  159. Dumbo says:
    @gustafus

    Not all is IQ. Low IQ doesn’t cause people to be violent, just dumb. The cause of violence in those populations is more likely high testosterone, or some gene linked to aggressive behavior, which perhaps helped them to survive on previous times. Pre-Columbian tribes were very violent, African tribes too. Whites and Asians can be violent too but they control it or organize it better and are more socially cooperative.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @MarkinLA
  160. Well?
    If you really think about it, segregation was not such a bad thing.
    Did segregation hurt the black population in any way?
    I do not think so.
    And!!!!
    Freedom of association is firmly entrenched in constitution.
    Desegregation was actually a rape of the part of the constitution !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  161. gp says:
    @JessicaR

    “the African-American churches who are doing yeoman’s work in trying to improve conditions within the community” Yes, there are many of those churches. So why don’t they _ever_ succeed? Where is there a “community” where “conditions improved” as a result of black effort? “Communities” seem to improve most by white gentrification, but few blacks would agree.

  162. joef says:
    @MBlanc46

    As Mr Reed appears to suggest, significant segregation is possible. Most blacks don’t like white people and don’t want to live among us.

    One problem with that solution: They can never give up their addiction for Non Black money to pay for afro entitlements. They certainly could not maintain a decent standard of living without us (they would more than likely starve from their own lazy lack of initiative). And this addiction is what is weighing down our economy with afro produced debt (not the only cause but a maj one);

    whether from equal housing lender bank loans, subprime car loans, easy access credit cards, Obama phones, Medicaid (with overwhelmed hospital emergency rooms leading to bankrupted hospital closings), EBT cards, section eight housing, free school lunch, (robberies, burglaries, & larcenies) etc etc, they are primarily responsible for our unprecedented debt levels that will not realistically be paid back (and still continues to grow). The only thing that will stop this afro addiction for more entitlements is national bankruptcy (and municipal/State defaults are the canaries in the coal mine for this process). They may hate us without cause, but they love our money more, and will refuse to part ways with it.

  163. Miro23 says:
    @Negrolphin Pool

    The median home price in mostly white Traverse City, Michigan, a city with similar housing stock from a similar period in a similar location, is $224,000. If we assume the difference between the two prices is equal to the single-home “black dysfunction premium”, then the total black dysfunction premium incurred by Detroit residential real estate owners since 1950 $46,678,367,000.

    Detroit used to be the world centre of car manufacturing. When this collapsed, so did Detroit along with jobs and tax revenues. It wasn’t “black dysfunction” that caused the collapse, it was the chronic inability of the US to retain and develop its industrial base (unlike Germany and Japan) along with the most stupid mass outsourcing to Asia.

    Ref. Andy Grove (ex CEO of Intel) article in Bloomberg, “How American Can Create Jobs” http://www.openvms.org/http%3A//www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2010-07-01/andy-grove-how-america-can-create-jobs

    • Replies: @Negrolphin Pool
  164. Okechukwu says:
    @daniel le mouche

    They need to be shipped out, like Lincoln said.

    It’s going to be very difficult for your keyboard to ship out anyone.

    It would be much easier to ship you and your ilk back to Europe than it would be to ship black Americans to Africa. At some point, you people may have to be shipped somewhere. If not to Europe or Siberia, then to an island somewhere. Otherwise you will have to be quarantined one way or the other.

    At some point society will say Enough!

    • Replies: @Malla
  165. joef says:
    @Gene Su

    Perhaps the best thing that can happen to America is for a complete economic and social collapse. Such an event will break the welfare/warfare state as well as Leftist control.

    I do not consider it a best solution, but it seems to be the only solution that remains, because we collectively refuse to impose better ones (mainly holding afro americans accountable for their bad behavior, and forcing them to act in a socially responsible manner toward others). A failed state causes a vacuum in leadership, where wrol results in a rise of potential warlords, and a possible degeneration of all against all. That all Non Blacks will only righteously focus their just anger against aggressive afros, although preferred, is probably unlikely. Also there are few decent Blacks (who are not part of the degenerate afro horde) who will be hurt by this; because it is unlikely that many Non Blacks will be very trusting if this devolves into a afro initiated race war.

    During collapse like conditions, the potential for mass disease, starvation, freezing, violence, and death, will be a high cost for not rectifying this situation by other means. However since it seems that we are inevitably going in this direction, it would be prudent to prepare, pray, and find good reliable friends & neighbors. Good luck, because if this is in fact our only solution, it will be a very rough one full of misfortune. Either way, we have little control, all we can do is try to effectively respond to it, and protect the ones we care about. Most of us did not want this, but that does not relieve an obligation to be ready for it.

    • Agree: another fred
    • Replies: @another fred
  166. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    One of the dumbest sentences ever written. That explains why HongKong is so screwed up.

  167. Truth says:
    @Alden

    Prison work is an affirmative action black and brown monopoly It’s no Whites need apply

    You got a job, Al(abaster) Sharpton!

  168. @Miro23

    It’s a tenuous argument that Detroit was irrevocably doomed by auto manufacturing’s downturn – by the way, the Big Three still all have major presences in Detroit, afaik – when places like Rochester Hills and Gross Pointe Woods – the latter being literally adjacent to one of the worst ghettos in America, with a couple feet marking the transition from burnt out buildings and weeds in the sidewalk to manicured lawns and electronic gates – are among the most exclusive and pricey places in all of Michigan. Why is Gross Pointe Woods, with many of its mini-mansions a stone’s throw from Detroit’s shocking dereliction, a thriving community with some of the highest real estate values in the state?

    The same argument can be made for other towns in in the Detroit Metro Area and throughout Michigan, such as Grand Rapids, that were once heavily reliant on the automotive industry but successfully diversified and are booming today.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  169. Truth says:
    @joef

    One day we will no longer tolerate the intolerable, and the majority of afros have only themselves to blame. IF they do not want this outcome they should accept responsibility, stop hating without cause, and change their ways now

    Once again, Joey, why let someone else get all of the credit?

    I nominate YOU, to grab the AK-47 and the Brass knuckles and lead your people to their bloody victory, Moses!

    • Replies: @joef
  170. @Meretricious

    Maybe more than business violence. Mexican papers have an obsession with blood. Given the nature of the ancient religion, I’ve often wondered how deep the ancient values still run. Ritualistic murder in Mexico is well documented n tattooing was part of their religion. Maybe MS13 is a resurfacing of ancient practices.

    Since first cousin marriage has persisted for thousands of years in the mid east, I’m not as quick as some others to assume that ethnic groups can change their stripes like clothes.

    • Replies: @Anon
  171. @danand

    Hoping for utopia via genetic engineering is like trying to persuade cats n dogs they will each be better off if they accept becoming like the other. I just can’t see that happening absent force.

  172. @gp

    Liberals don’t know it but blacks do. This is why no party that appeals to liberty will ever attract most black votes. In an open fair society they know they can’t compete, therefore they will always look to government employment n government favoritism as their main goal in life, rationalized as compensation for former slavery.

    Seems to me quarantine was already tried. It was called Jim Crow. A few Justices didn’t like it so two generations of working class whites were sacrificed so they could virtue signal.

  173. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    It would be much easier to ship you and your ilk back to Europe than it would be to ship black Americans to Africa.

    How so?

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  174. @Gene Su

    Reminds me of a call in to NPR by a recent Arab immigrant who said that he had studied black on non-black crime n that it was much larger than most think n that it was not being reported by the media. The NPR host cut him off immediately with the comment “Statistics can be used to prove anything.”

    Apparently facts are facts until they go against the officially approved narrative. Then they are not facts. Not even the Census Bureau.

    • Agree: David In TN, joef
  175. edNels says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    I’m just gonna guess the basketball players were typical dumb kids pranking, not too smart, just not murder or anything like all the outrage here would be waranted for. Kids will be niggers! Imean… sheesh!

    Another thing though is, the black teenagers wouldn’t fit in a Chinese jail. Not a good situation for anybody so if it took presidential action so be it. Thrump could have let them rot, but that would be all bad, must be he didn’t mind seeming to have a heart to help out the little guy in this one. That won’t be a trend though, don’t count on that.

  176. @Corvinus

    Oh, so you believe in freedom of association? Good on you. So you must support the freedom of whites to associate with those they wish to, even if it’s limited to others of their race. Please start speaking out against forced integration.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  177. @Gene Su

    I hardly know where to begin to correct such naivete. My race realism is precisely that–from real daily experience, not armchair theorizing. Multiple unprovoked attacks, knifings, threats, holdups at gunpoint on most of my family n relatives, my elderly mother dragged down the street by a black thief in a truck after he had just robbed her, another relative run over, neighbor’s 17 year old son at his first job executed by a black on parole while robbing him. It just goes on n on. And this is in Houston, a city that is virtually at peace in its race relations, without a race riot since 1917. How much worse must it be with violent black males in Baltimore, Chicago, Newark, Detroit, etc? Houston is 35% hispanic, 30% black, 30% white, 5% Asian. But the vast majority of violent crime is done by black males. Everyone knows this but the media, which is half black, never ever mentions it.

    • Replies: @joef
    , @Truth
  178. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    Second, if one says rawly that “75 percent of Jewish households owned slaves, according to the 1830 census”, was the possession of slaves due to the fact of being Jew or being wealthy? One must delve into the number of Jewish families who were wealthy and owned slaves and who were wealthy and did not own slaves, and compare them to whites in the same two categories. Martin ought to have figures showing correlation of household wealth to slaveowner households and show that indeed Jewish households of the period tended to be be among wealthier households. It could just be a coincidental correspondence between economic status and slaveowner rather than religion and slaveowner. Third, Martin claims that this number came from Jewish historians, but from what particular source? Why should we automatically assume that this statistic is valid if Martin did not offer exactly where it came from and how it was generated, given that Jews are allegedly liars and thieves?

    What kind of dumb explanation is this? Jews were rich and owned slaves does not change the fact that they were still more likely to own slaves.

    Jews were concentrated in the North, and they constituted a very small minority there. Even if the statement is taken as applying only to the states in the American South that had not adopted gradual emancipation laws, it remains badly flawed. A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact. In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion.

    More dumb explanations and excuses to explain away Jewish participation in slave ownership. Jews were more urban and thus owned slaves does not change the fact that they were more likely to own slaves.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  179. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.

    More stupidity, whose proverb?

    This so called proverb supposes that Whites are the only people who have conquered other peoples and made them work for them. Everybody in the world did that including blacks did it to other blacks. That is what most empires are for.
    Also it should be White man finds the negro, installs a pump and keeps the negro to operate the pump thereby increasing productivity and thus increased standard of living for both Whites and negro. With it came modern education, modern healthcare, modern law and institutions, something superior to what the negro had in the past and very likely could not have attained on his own. Since it is the White man who invented the pump, the White man’s role is much more essential than that of the negro, all he did was find the well, which the White man could have found out anyways.
    The fact that the negro still uses or tries to use, the White man’s medicine and the White man’s technology even after the White man left means he prefers using it as it is extremely beneficial to him. If blacks would have gone back to their tribal state leaving all modern technology behind, then they would have a point. But they enjoy the technology and modern medicine brought by Europeans, which shows they have benefited enormously.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Corvinus
  180. @Corvinus

    Then you are a hypocrite on the value of human life. Congratulations.

    There’s nothing “hypocritical” about stating forthrightly that you value white lives more highly than black lives.

    I think the word you were looking for is “inconsistent.”

    Well, so what? I guess I can say I consistently favor white lives over black lives. You will have a hard time morally shaming me over this, I can assure you.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  181. @Gene Su

    “You could have talked about how the Charleston Church shooting got a cover page on Time magazine but the Tennessee Church shooting, done by an African immigrant, hardly made a ripple.” — Gene Su

    If Fred had brought up the Tennessee Church shooting, that would have led him to the Charleston Church shooting — which would have been an exception to his rule that blacks are all hostile toward whites:

    “blacks cannot compete with whites, Asians, or Latin-Americans. … This leaves them in an incurable state of resentment and thus hostility.” — Fred Reed

    What’s the problem with one minor exception? The problem is that we are here at Unz Review, and elsewhere in this country, in a ‘culture-war’ situation where we take our rules of engagement from the military: “Kill them all and let God sort them out.”

    It’s to be expected in a culture as militaristic as ours has become. As is common in the typical made-for-TV film or Netflix series, only a fool would give the other guy a chance or wait for him to draw …. and that leads to another one of our rules of engagement that are taught via the ultimate instructional tool of the screen: “Shoot first, by instinct, without hesitation.” Or, in the cop movies, when a rookie kills a suspect who actually was unarmed and harmless, the senior guys tell him, “It’s okay, you did what your training told you to do.”

    So that’s how we conduct dialog these days. We don’t worry about niceties like “except for the Christian folk in the black church in Charleston.” Those folks were just collateral damage as were the other Christian folk in Tennessee. So, Fred is just following the postmodern rules of discourse — like everybody else. And those rules follow the postmodern rules of engagement of real-life terrorism and firefights.

    Many have been noting that it may even be a racial characteristic to react instinctively, without reflection. Maybe so … and so what? And wasn’t that what the BLMers were demanding when they shouted down all the Democratic candidates, including Bernie Sanders, when those candidates attempted to make the point that “All lives matter.” Were not the BLMers saying that the Christian lives in the Tennessee church did not matter, and the Christian lives in the Charleston church, they did not matter as individual human beings taking a stand for peace but only as a few black people and only because they were black.

    That’s where culture war and identity politics. carried to their logical extremes, would take us: “Kill rhem all and let God sort them out.”

    There seems to be another possible direction, a kind of ‘third way’, for those brave enough to follow the martyrs, if need be: that is carrying religious faith to its logical extremes.

    As indicated at #67 by gustafus and as preached by Dr. James David Manning –

    https://www.facebook.com/drjamesdavidmanning/

  182. @Corvinus

    Nationalism is a European invention. It is deceptive to claim African nations existed before whites arrived. Ghana alone has 12 languages n is only united by English. African societies mostly benefited from European colonial rule n the most prosperous ones are those areas where colonialism was most thorough. Still, the end of white rule often meant the end of stable government, like Liberia, Kenya, Congo, CAR, Zimbabwe.

    Lamenting the end of African culture, if one is honest, must also include ending illiteracy, poverty, famine, epidemics, slavery, perpetual war, genocide, n cannibalism, all endemic to many parts of Africa. While Europeans may have exploited some of these temporarily, by 1900 they had ended all of these. These are metrics of what is successful, at least in European culture.

    When they want to solve their problems, I notice African governments still consult European n American experts. Maybe they should stop trying to de-colonize n re-colonize.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @woodNfish
  183. @Liberty Mike

    I didn’t claim they committed more murder, merely that they were present at two places that had significantly more murders.

  184. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Using your own metric, one could say Steve Sailer, Heartiste, Brett Stevens, and John Derbyshire are also “very dangerous”, as they are the intellectual leaders of the (white) underclass by peddling sophistry like race realism and the social-sexual hierarchy.

    More stupid assumptions from an idiot with an agenda. Race realism is no sophistry and are facts. There is no proof whatsoever that their readership belong to the so called White underclass. The White underclass would have loved results which show Whites have IQs higher than North East Asians but that is obviously not the case in race realism.

  185. @Rurik

    Hi, Rurik!

    Cute work with images! Thanks, for your comment and also the link to WaPo article.

    WaPo was saying that Trump’s Wall would have propaganda value but would do nothing about the incoming masses.

    Exactly, and that’s why what I think makes sense is derb’s proposal, that starts with bringing allowable legal immigration down to absolute zero. My own suggestion would be to use RICO statutes to seize places like the kosher meat packing plant (and crank lab) in Iowa, in about 2004, remember? … seize all the assets that can be located and send the people back to Honduras or Israel, as the cases may be.

    … but we both know anything that makes sense has no chance in this gotterdammerung

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @MarkinLA
  186. @Truth

    I need a flo-facing ho who mashin for the rations.

  187. Malla says:
    @Dumbo

    People with high IQ are more likely to think about the long term consequences of their actions. Low IQ individuals will lash out, attack each other and end up in jail.
    One of the many reasons why shopkeepers in third world countries ripping off and cheating their customers is so common is because they do not care about their moral reputation in the long term, they rarely think about the customer not returning to their shop. They rip off their customers and gloat to themselves how cunning and smart they are. And thus third world hellholes remain third world hell holes and probably will remain so.

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @Truth
  188. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I think this is most likely an attempt to hypocritically use the sarcasm Corvinus believes is forbidden by his religion. Fortunately for him, he has not succeeded.

  189. anarchyst says:
    @Negrolphin Pool

    I grew up in Detroit, and personally witnessed the destruction of a once-great city. There are a number of reasons for Detroit’s decline that have never been explored or discussed.
    1. “Blockbusting” by greedy real estate agents. Real estate agents would send out postcards with the following: “A new family is moving into your neighborhood. If you want to sell your house, please call me at xxx-xxxx”. A “new family” was a euphemism for black families, and was used to “encourage” whites to sell their homes.
    2. HUD (Housing and Urban Development) speculators and real estate hustlers conspired to buy up” and raze the best houses on every block, in certain sections of the city. Quite often, “shacks” were left standing while decent housing was purchased by HUD and razed. This was done purposely to depress property values, to make it easier for speculators to purchase properties at “bargain basement” prices.
    I realize that items 1 and 2 counteract each other and are at cross purposes, but they were a reality in 1960s Detroit.
    3. The 1967 riots did much to push whites out of Detroit. A little-known aspect of the Detroit riots was the application of spray-painted words on the exteriors of black-owned businesses. The words “soul brother” was spray-painted on businesses owned by blacks so that the “angels of death” (actually rioters) would spare them from destruction. Whole business districts around the city were destroyed, never to regain their former selves.
    4. The election of Coleman Alexander Young, Detroit’s first black mayor, who was overtly racist to Detroit’s white citizens while “getting along just fine” with the “movers and shakers” (big business people) of the day (as long as the campaign donations kept coming in)….
    5. The abolition of the STRESS (Stop The Robberies, Enjoy Safe Streets) program. This anti-criminal program was put in by mayor Young’s predecessor and was quite successful in “cleaning up the streets” of criminals. In this program, police officers would disguise themselves as vulnerable old people and walk through neighborhoods as “decoys”. Predatory criminals would attempt to rob these elderly citizens and quite often, were dispatched to “the great hereafter”. One of Young’s campaign promises was the abolition of the STRESS program as too many of “his people” were being eliminated. Upon the election of Young, the program was disbanded.
    These are 5 reasons for this once-great city’s demise.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @joef
  190. @Corvinus

    “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent.

    Jewish families appeared to “own” more slaves than non-Jewish families for the same reason used car lot owners appear to “own’ more cars than non-owners. Throughout the South in particular, businesses that specialized in the buying, selling, and swapping of slaves were nearly always owned and operated by Jews.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  191. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sin City Milla

    Papers everywhere have an obsession with blood.

  192. bartok says:

    an incurable state of resentment and thus hostility.

    Here is a major error of Fred’s. Academic and life failure compared to their betters do not create the “incurable state” in blacks and mestizos. It’s communist policies and messages that do it.

    What is the natural response to academic and life failure? “You talk like a fag,” i.e. even if God could have made me a corny-ass cracker working in a ‘cubicle’ in an ‘office park’ wearing ‘business casual’, I would rather be me, a real nigga. The natural state of blacks and other low-IQ persons is: above-average self-esteem. If communists weren’t telling blacks and mestizos lies, the natural response is: if you gotta be a fuggin geek to make bank, fuck it.

    Communist subdivision, feminism: substitute Uncle Sam (a cuckold) for a husband and father by giving a ‘basic income’ to any black woman who can get knocked up, a ‘basic education’ to her children, and the more kids the more money. Alpha fucks, beta bucks in the form of Federal Reserve Notes from the source.

    Communist subdivision, subversion: foment racial strife as a component of the class struggle. This was a longtime theme of both KGB and US media communists. Out of habit, Russian propaganda still plays up US racial strife even though helping out the US left does not help Russia in the 21st century.

    Communist subdivision, democracy: one person, one vote, tax according to ability, spend according to need. Make work if necessary (government jobs with racial quotas).

    Back to Fred: his error regarding an “an incurable state” of natural resentment has a flip side. His various apologies for Mexicans have a theme: if Americans don’t pretend to like the Mexicans within our borders and don’t welcome infinitely many Mexicans, then we will cause resentment among Mexicans.

    Got that? Fred said that black resentment is natural and incurable, but Mexican resentment is unnatural and preventable if only the right-wing will censor our opinions about the mestizo menace. Fred can’t have it both ways, but he’ll try to, again and again.

  193. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It is simply mind boggling how far up their asses, white supremacist lunatics, aka wiggers, have their “superior” noggins.

    Reed the incorrigible douchist mentions homicide counts and the blacks who are involved in such crimes… thousands apparently.

    Wiggers have (and continue to) massacred millions in pursuit of their unquenchable greed. The term Psychopathy falls woefully short of truly describing their kind of mind sickness.

    Only in the completely twisted minds of wiggers can thousands (10′s of, even) be worse than millions.

  194. @gp

    Increase the American school year from 180 days to 240 days. Eliminate homework: all work done in school, no more excuses.

    Sorry, but it won’t work. You can’t make oil absorb water no matter how long they’re left in contact with one another. The really sad part is that the oil ends up floating on top of the water supporting it. Which doesn’t seem quite fair, but that’s the way it is.

  195. Corvinus says:
    @Malla

    “What kind of dumb explanation is this? Jews were rich and owned slaves does not change the fact that they were still more likely to own slaves.”

    “More dumb explanations and excuses to explain away Jewish participation in slave ownership. Jews were more urban and thus owned slaves does not change the fact that they were more likely to own slaves.”

    I see that you are becoming triggered by hate facts here. Calm down. Try to think rationally here.

    Example–From 1709-1807, there are 934 recorded voyages in which Rhode Island merchants were responsible for procuring 106,000 slaves. Now, Jews arrived in Newport as early as 1758. On the eve of the Revolution, they were estimated to be around thirty families. According to historical records historian Eli Faber used (e.g. naval office shipping lists, censuses, tax records) that identified merchants and planters as Jewish, there were 347 slave ships sent to Africa by Rhode Island slave traders from 1761-1774, with 21 being funded by Aaron Lopez, a Portuguese Jew. That means 326 voyages were underwritten by non-Jews during this time frame. Of course, Jews played a role in the peddling of human flesh. The extent in this particular case is nominal compared to other ethnic groups.

    Rather than saying things are “dumb”, you need to muster up your own statistics to counter the evidence I presented here.

    • Replies: @Ossettian
  196. Corvinus says:
    @Malla

    “This so called proverb supposes that Whites are the only people who have conquered other peoples and made them work for them.”

    No, this proverb demonstrates that among all people who have conquered other peoples, white people have been more successful at it, and in the process have destroyed things in their wake.

    “Also it should be White man finds the negro, installs a pump and keeps the negro to operate the pump thereby increasing productivity and thus increased standard of living for both Whites and negro.”

    Through brute force. How is this use of violence consistent with the principle of freedom of association?

    “With it came modern education, modern healthcare, modern law and institutions, something superior to what the negro had in the past and very likely could not have attained on his own.”

    Undoubtedly those areas that were colonized received benefits, but it came at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    “Since it is the White man who invented the pump, the White man’s role is much more essential than that of the negro, all he did was find the well, which the White man could have found out anyways.”

    The first pump, albeit rudimentary, was actually developed by the Egyptians.

    http://www.waterencyclopedia.com/Po-Re/Pumps-Traditional.html

    https://www.pumpsandsystems.com/topics/pumps/pumps/history-pumps-through-years

    And you do realize that Europeans had to rely on other groups of people to spark their own innovations, right?

    “The earliest known permanent settlement, which can be classified as urban, is Jericho from 8000–7000 B.C., located near springs and other bodies of water. In Egypt there are traces of wells, and in Mesopotamia of stone rainwater channels, from 3000 B.C.. From the early Bronze Age city of Mohenjo-Daro, located in modern Pakistan, archaeologists have found hundreds of ancient wells, water pipes and toilets. The first evidence of the purposeful construction of the water supply, bathrooms, toilets and drainage in Europe comes from Bronze Age Minoan (and Mycenaean) Crete in the second millennium B.C.”

    https://www.iwapublishing.com/news/brief-history-water-and-health-ancient-civilizations-modern-times

    “The fact that the negro still uses or tries to use, the White man’s medicine…”

    You mean medicine developed by humans, or people. In reality, the development of medicine is a global thing, with modern inventions certainly attribute to the difference races. If you Google “history of medicinal plants”, you will notice that African, Asians, and even Central/South Americans played an integral role here.

    Do you want to know more, citizen?

    “If blacks would have gone back to their tribal state leaving all modern technology behind, then they would have a point. But they enjoy the technology and modern medicine brought by Europeans, which shows they have benefited enormously.”

    Absolutely. But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.

  197. Corvinus says:
    @Carroll Price

    “Throughout the South in particular, businesses that specialized in the buying, selling, and swapping of slaves were nearly always owned and operated by Jews.”

    Specific examples, please.

    • Replies: @Anon
  198. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Your bias against the mentally challenged is duly noted.

  199. woodNfish says:

    We already have these areas in Chicago (600 murders this year), Baltimore (300 murders this year), watts in LA which has never recovered from the rioting blacks who destroyed their own neighborhood, and too many more to mention. As I have written many tines blacks are their own worse problem, and only they can solve it. I am not interested in trying to help them anymore in any way. Their problem is genetic.

    I am all for racially distinct communities. It is a natural human desire to be with one’s own kind. And blacks will always be black and mostly uncivilized.

  200. @Anonymouse

    My experience on trains with African youths – previously in NJ, Chicago, Ohio, Baltimore, and D.C., and now in LA – been almost uniformly unpleasant, annoying, loud, rude, vulgar, stupid, frequently glaring or mocking, and occasionally menacing.

    Numerous times I have been intentionally “shouldered” by young African men AND WOMEN who want to show their power and their disrespect for me – not just brushing past and making incidental contact as anyone often must in a crowd, but forcefully shouldered and pushed backwards, sometimes when it was not crowded.

    Same for my friend who has lived in Brooklyn for almost twenty years as an adult and in NYC much of his young life before that. As a teenager in the 80s, he was attacked, robbed, beaten, spit on, and mocked while he was lying helpless on the train car floor, by a group of African “Americans.” One nearby African passenger, an adult, laughed as he was attacked and spit on.

    You are either simply lucky thus far, or shading the truth. And certainly you are making excuses for Africans that are unconvincing and terribly naive.

    The fact that many white kids are falling down to the African level of intimidation, rudeness, vulgarity, moronic behavior, is readily observable. But there is still a large systematic difference between two groups in typical average behavior, and the seemingly worsening behavior of white kids is no excuse for the already atrocious and worse behavior of the majority of African kids and teens, and adults for that matter.

  201. Corvinus says:
    @Sin City Milla

    “It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.”

    The fate of African nations in the context of those nations that were created post WWII decolonizaton. In other words, when Africans gained their freedom from their colonial masters.

    “It is deceptive to claim African nations existed before whites arrived.”

    African nations as far as tribal groups controlling a vast swath of land and developing a civilization.

    “Ghana alone has 12 languages and is only united by English.”

    Language is but one unifying aspect.

    “African societies mostly benefited from European colonial rule n the most prosperous ones are those areas where colonialism was most thorough. Still, the end of white rule often meant the end of stable government, like Liberia, Kenya, Congo, CAR, Zimbabwe.”

    Remember, European nations created artificial boundaries in Africa and herded competing tribal groups into those confined areas, then selected one or two of these tribal groups to serve as underlings. When Africans gained their freedom from their white colonial masters in the 1950′s and 1960′s, it is other than surprising that ethnic and tribal tensions erupted given the fact Europeans had created the conditions for destabilization.

    “Lamenting the end of African culture, if one is honest, must also include ending illiteracy, poverty, famine, epidemics, slavery, perpetual war, genocide, n cannibalism, all endemic to many parts of Africa.

    No, those things were not “ended”; in fact, some of those things were either perpetuated by or temporarily resolved by Europeans.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @MarkinLA
  202. Corvinus says:
    @silviosilver

    “There’s nothing “hypocritical” about stating forthrightly that you value white lives more highly than black lives.”

    Of course it is hypocritical. Either you value human life or you do not value human life. When picking which race ought to live or die, he or she is decidedly being hypocritical.

    • Replies: @joef
    , @silviosilver
  203. @joef

    “It is amazing how libs & leftists even ignore the Black victims of afro violent crime.”

    True, but there is a reason. If they played up black on black crime, they would have to show the black perps and that won’t do.

    A similar dynamic applies with black on white crime. You hear complaints that “murdered pretty white girls” get too much attention. Well, white girl victims get big publicity when their killer looks like Joran van der Sloot or Scott Peterson.

  204. Corvinus says:
    @Tulip Bulb Millionaire

    “So you must support the freedom of whites to associate with those they wish to, even if it’s limited to others of their race.”

    Depends upon what is being limited. For example, assume that I live in an all-white neighborhood, but I choose to sell my house–my property–to a non-white person. That is my freedom of association to enable that family to move in if they are willing to pay me what I am asking for. Furthermore, unfettered freedom of association is dead–thanks to the Southrons who couldn’t even abide by the “separate but equal” decision in the Plessy case.

  205. woodNfish says:
    @Sin City Milla

    I think you mean colonization, not nationalism which is simply tribalism at a higher level, and a natural part of being human, not a European invention. You are right that black Africa benefited from colonization. One only has to look at the facts to know it is true, and the descendants of black slaves brought to the West are better off than they ever would have been if they were still in Africa. The same cannot be said for black slaves taken to the ME or Asia where as in Africa, slavery still exists.

  206. Chip ‘em and ship ‘em!

    Implant a non-removable tracking device — so they cannot EVER return to the White Western world — and give them each … say … $30k and send them back to their homelands. WAY cheaper than continuing on; and MAY save us all!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  207. woodNfish says:

    No, I am honest. I have never claimed that all human lives have the same value or any value, and if you claim that you do, then you are a liar. Do you think Hitler should have been executed? How about Polpot, Stalin, Mao, or Mugabe, Or the murderer on death row? I also don’t beleive in universal human rights. Some people are so disposable they deserve only to be immediately disposed of.

    I’m not inconsistent either as Silvio stated in his reply. Nothing is black and white, there are always subtleties and shades of grey. And as a thoughtful person who learns from experience and thoughtful commenters, I sometimes change my mind or modify my thinking about a particular issue, such as abortion.

  208. @Corvinus

    Whoever achieved something in these fields, deserves praise, gratitude, and recognition, of whatever race or culture. But without white Europeans including the Greeks and Romans, the Persians, and certain Asians, we wouldn’t have much. Doesn’t mean that people of their groups deserve to be mistreated, just that we shouldn’t exaggerate their historical achievements and average abilities.

    Moreover, when it comes to achievements by ancient people in Egypt or the Mediterranean side of the Middle East in particular, they were likely not of the same racial stock as most current inhabitants of those areas. They were often akin to current white Europeans.

  209. joef says:
    @Truth

    1st : Because unlike criminal minded afros, most of us do not attack. Instead we defend ourselves against the afros who are typically the primary aggressors (I know that is a shock to you, because today libs demand that we all should be willing victims to unprovoked afro aggression, but there are still those among us who will take a stand against it, I think you would label such self defense as a hate crime) …

    2nd: As I said to you before, many Whites have become limo liberal wimps, more enamored with stylish afro worship than protecting themselves.

    3rd: If you carefully read what I have been saying in the past: I have no romantic notions about the pending failed state afro initiated race war; because many innocents will suffer from this (which includes many non afro thug Black people); the suffering from the resultant scarcity will be severe, if and when, this happens. Being ready for what is almost inevitable, is not the same as wanting it to happen.

    4th: It is afro initiated aggressive behavior, and constant parasitical demands for more & more unearned benefits, that is pushing for this; not most Non Blacks who want to peacefully go about their own business. In other words, afros are the cause, the response of Non Blacks protecting themselves are the effect (that is called a logical progression).

    5th: Why do you enablers of afro aggression (Blacks like yourself, leftist, and naive libs) always try to convince other Non Blacks who have already accumulated a lifetime worth of negative interactions/observations with afros… you must know that is an exercise in futility to get us to deny our own massive amount of bad experiences. You would be much better off trying to convince a pathologically naive White person, who has had very limited contact with dysfunctional afro culture; They are extremely eager to worship afros ad nauseam, so they can be in the contemporary vogue of the times, and brag to other naive libs how opened minded they are. You are wasting your time with the rest of us… we already know how destructively savage afros can be.

    6th: Maybe you should be leading the charge of afro reform to become better socially adjusted productive people, so Non Blacks will stop having negative opinions of them, and we won’t end up becoming a failed state, with a resultant afro initiated race war (which they will lose)… probably not, afros will probably never let go of their racial animosity (but one can hope).

    • Replies: @Truth
  210. @KenH

    Standards of disc ipline in the schools have been on the decline since the early 1970s but Obama ‘s administration was responsible for “disparate impact”

    If we dumped “disparate impact”, stopped giving into the demands of race hustlers, got rid of affirmative action, returned to color-blind standards, and punished illegitimacy, that would help solve the problem.

    The minute we stop rewarding deviant black underclass behavior and demands we will get less deviant black underclass behavior.

    • Replies: @KenH
  211. KenH says:

    Sorry, won’t work. It would be contingent on having a white supermajority nationwide and in cities to enforce those standards. Besides, about 40% of whites would resist any measures as “racist”. Jews would use their immense political power to thwart any initiatives.

    You’re still clinging to old conservative wishful thinking and paradigms of “one standard to rule them all”. How will you impose discipline in black controlled Detroit, Trenton, NE, Gary, IN and E. St Louis, IL?

    It’s time to adapt to the new reality that integration does not work unless by brute government force and even then work must be put in parenthesis.

    Blacks will never clean up their act and step up their game and become almost white in their life performances. Again, it’s time to racially separate and go our own way.

    Once blacks are forced to fend for themselves their death rates will skyrocket and their birth rates will implode. Heartless I know, but it’s time to let nature go back to work.

    • Replies: @Hare Krishna
    , @Okechukwu
  212. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    You mean medicine developed by humans, or people. In reality, the development of medicine is a global thing, with modern inventions certainly attribute to the difference races. If you Google “history of medicinal plants”, you will notice that African, Asians, and even Central/South Americans played an integral role here.

    Yeah I agree, populations throughout the world including medieval Europeans had a good knowledge of medicinal plants. Even African witch doctors had quite a lot of knowledge of medicinal herbs, no denying that. BUT there is no denying that modern medicine and hygiene spread by Europeans has played the most major role in increasing lifespans, treating common diseases across the world. The population of the World started increasing exponentially exactly during the period of the spread of Western modern medicine throughout the world. Indeed billions of non Whites are alive today because of the invention of modern antibiotics like penicillin by the Scotsman Flemming.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming

    For example, India (the subcontinent) had a constant population of a 100 million for more than a thousand years until Europeans arrive and then the population of India starts increasing with contact with European medicine.

    India has an advanced system of traditional medicine called Ayurveda but even then we did not know that it is mosquitoes which were responsible for Malaria, a disease which had plagued people in India and other tropical areas for thousands of years. It took a British medical doctor (born in India), Ronald Ross to find this out, nobody else had even the clue about mosquitoes having anything to do with Malaria throughout the tropical world.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Ross

    This new knowledge about mosquitoes could now be used to make strategies to reduce the effect of the disease on human populations.

    So even though most cultures had systems of medicine and all those systems of medicine are all valuable in their own right, it cannot be denied that modern medicine invented and spread by Europeans have played a big part in improving the lives of millions of non Whites around the world. It led to improvements in general health, increase lifespan and reduced child mortality to levels which their own traditional medicine could not achieve.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  213. @Hare Krishna

    Interesting to learn, HK. I have very little experience with those Arizona cities, and none with those Texas cities. As for Albuquerque, where I briefly lied, have friends, and have visited many times, aren’t there just mercifully few Africans in ABQ?

    • Replies: @Hare Krishna
  214. MarkinLA says:
    @Simply Simon

    If you remember that story about the hoax at the Air Force Academy, it talked about the incident happening at some kind of preparatory school associated with the AFA. I imagine all the military academies have them in order to meet their AA and football and basketball team requirements.

    You allow some totally unprepared kid a chance to enter the academy by taking remedial courses at these preparatory schools until you can pretend they are ready for the real academy. My guess is that these are kids who can’t even get a scholarship at a division 2 NCAA school.

  215. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    Absolutely. But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    What culture? Ghanians are still wearing their Kente cloth. The British left alone most of the tribes to follow their culture. The Ashanti tribal structure was left intact and their royal families are still present. Swazis still do their reed dance for their king and the people of Uganda are still performing their traditional dance.

    How have these cultures being destroyed, they are still here. Only difference is they are using modern technology such as cameras invented by the west to record it.

    These are Watusi of the Congo performing their traditional dance during European rule.

    Are the European authorities stopping them?

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  216. @daniel le mouche

    I know two longtime NYC residents, one a native New Yorker and one who moved from her home state of Connecticut, who increasingly can imagine living somewhere else. In fact they are dreaming about it and in one case, preparing for it. Good for them. I don’t care if I never set foot in that disgusting, dirty, unfriendly, overrated, overpriced, alien place again.

  217. Malla says:
    @Malla

    About Europeans destruction of Non European culture, this is interesting. It refers to classical Indian music of the South, Carnatic music.

    From

    http://indianraga.blogspot.in/2007/10/british-raj-and-indian-classical-music.html

    British Raj and Indian Classical Music

    When you think of Carnatic music, you think of temples, music which has retained its pristine purity over the ages and something strongly South Indian. But Carnatic music like all Indian art forms has been open to various cultural influences from all over the country and across the seas. Strange as it may sound, the British Raj and its bands have left a firm imprint on this most traditional music form. Muthuswami Dikshitar and Thyagaraja, two of the most revered composers of Carnatic music, were certainly influenced by the strange tunes from the British.

    Perhaps the earliest innovation was the violin. This very Western instrument became part of the Carnatic music tradition when the family of composer Ramaswami Dikshitar moved from Tiruvarur to Madras in the 1790s. The five-year stay exposed brothers Muthuswami and Baluswami Dikshitars to the ‘airs’ that were being played by the Fort St George orchestra.

    Baluswami Dikshitar learnt to play the violin from an Englishman and introduced it to the Carnatic concert platform. Muthuswami Dikshitar composed around fifty verses in Sanskrit, based on the orchestra’s music. The most famous among these is ‘Santatam Pahi Mam Sangita Shyamale’ which is set to the same tune as ‘God Save The King’! Muthuswami Dikshitar’s contemporary, Thyagaraja, composed ‘Raminsuvar Evarura’ in the Raga Suposhini, which was clearly inspired by music that accompanies march pasts.

    His ‘Vara Lila Gana Lola’ in Raga Sankarabharanam, is also completely based on Western band tunes. Thyagaraja used words that had come into Telugu from English in some of his compositions. The usage of the word Landaru (from Lantern) in the kriti ‘Emi Jesite Nemi’ (Raga Todi) and Shalu (from Shawl) in the kriti ‘Jutamurare’ (Raga Arabhi) are examples.

    The British were not immune to the beauty of Carnatic music. We have instances of singers such as Maha Vaidyanatha Sivan being appreciated by British officials.

    Gopalakrishna Bharat’s Nandan Charitram moved a French official of Karaikkal to such an extent that he funded the first publication of the work. The Madras Jubilee Gayan Samaj opened its office in 1883 and among its patrons were such senior officials as Sir Charles Turner, Col McLeod and Gen S Chamier.

    Programmes featuring Carnatic music were held at the Pachiappa’s Hall in George Town, Madras and many Englishmen attended these events. Patnam Subramanya Iyer, the composer who lived in Madras for 12 years, thereby acquiring the prefix Patnam (city), created the Raga Kathanakutoohalam, which can easily pass off as a melody in Western Music. His song ‘Raghuvamsa Sudha’ in this Raga is a favourite among instrumentalists, specially when they are performing to an International audience.

    At the turn of the century, the Harikatha movement (story telling with music) was at its peak. Innovations were happening in this genre. Exponents such as Harikesanallur L Muthiah Bhagavatar and Tirupazhanam Panchapakesa Sastriar were in the fore front. A popular item in their repertoire was the description of Rama’s marriage to Sita. During their discourse they let their imagination run riot and even described a ‘band’ that belted out music during the wedding procession. The ever popular ‘English Note’ was created for this.

    The Imperial Durbar of 1911 marked the zenith of the British Raj. The visit certainly influenced classical music. Gauhar Jan of Calcutta and Janki Bai of Allahabad performed a mujra for King George V, and for their song ‘Yeh Hai Tajposhi Ka Jalsa Mubarak Ho Mubarak Ho’ they were given a gift of 100 guineas. M Lakshmana Suri of Madras, father of Judge and musicologist T L Venkatarama Iyer and uncle to Harikesanallur L Muthaiah Bhagavatar, composed a set of 100 verses in Sanskrit on the King. It was titled ‘George Deva Shatakam’. He was awarded the title of Mahamahopadhyaya for the effort.

    The Muthialpet Sabha of George Town, Madras, announced a competition among composers for coming up with a song on King George. The eminent vocalist and composer Ramanathapuram ‘Poochi’ Srinivasa Iyengar was awarded the gold medal for his kriti ‘Satatamu Brovumayya Chakravartini’ in Raga Todi. A mangalam (benediction) too was composed. It goes ‘Jayatu Jayatu Sarvabhauma George Nama, Sundari Mary Ragni Sahita Vijayi Bhava’.

    It must have been very pleasant for Queen Mary to be called a beauty. Sadly the composer is not known. In the mid-thirties, Chittoor V Nagaiah released a 78 rpm recording of a Javali, that began with the words ‘O my lovely Lalana’. The song is a delightful mix of Telugu and English. Much closer to Independence, Ariyakkudi Ramanuja Iyengar had the occasion to perform before an English collector. In order to impress him, Iyengar began with the English note. The man was not happy. ‘‘When will you sing ‘Entaro Mahanubhavulu’?’’ he asked. Carnatic music had come full circle.

    The influence has not vanished with the end of the British Raj. During the Rishabha Vahanam procession at the Kapaleeswarar temple in Mylapore, it is customary for the bearers of the idol to dance to the tune of a band during the last lap of the event. The tunes played are the English note and… hold your breath, ‘For He’s a Jolly Good Fellow’! But then that is quite a good description of the Lord.

  218. joef says:
    @Sin City Milla

    My race realism is precisely that–from real daily experience, not armchair theorizing. Multiple unprovoked attacks, knifings, threats, holdups at gunpoint on most of my family n relatives,

    This is the kind of experience that most libs, and leftist, try to most desperately deny. They want these victims to suffer in silence, so they can continue to live in their fantasy vogue of how wonderful afros are, and how lucky we are to be with them. They also forbid self defense against afro american initiated aggression. Aggressive afros themselves like to commit violence without consequences, in which they hate & fear their victims fighting back against them. They like easy marks, that don’t fight back, and conduct whole protest movements to keep it that way. They pretend that they are tough, but if so why do they need liberals, the MSM, and prosecutors, to protect them from Non Blacks fighting back then? That is because many of them are cowards who like to prey on helpless innocent victims. Which begs the question to liberals: what exactly makes afros so wonderful? [limo libs are the worst because they callously ignore the suffering of their fellow countrymen, at the hands of the afro, so they can feel good about themselves]

  219. Truth says:
    @Sin City Milla

    Multiple unprovoked attacks, knifings, threats, holdups at gunpoint on most of my family n relatives, my elderly mother dragged down the street by a black thief in a truck after he had just robbed her, another relative run over, neighbor’s 17 year old son at his first job executed by a black on parole while robbing him.

    You guys have lived such exciting lives. Are you sure you want to give this up to sit on a rocking chair and talk about “the great storm we had, oh, 42 year ago” with your white neighbors? I mean I grew up in a %99 black neighborhood in Queens and I haven’t had near this much fun. I read about some of your lives and I think I’m watching an episode of ‘Barretta.’

  220. Rurik says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    My own suggestion would be to use RICO statutes to seize places like the kosher meat packing plant (and crank lab) in Iowa, in about 2004, remember? … seize all the assets that can be located and send the people back to Honduras or Israel, as the cases may be.

    you get my vote GC!

  221. MarkinLA says:
    @Dumbo

    The cause of violence in those populations is more likely high testosterone, or some gene linked to aggressive

    Maybe, but the violence is always in the pursuit of wanting something, and wanting it right now, even if they can’t pay for it. Violence is the means of having to back up your act of taking it from somebody.

  222. @Truth

    They notice they also notice i have no fear of them, have grown up in as bad and worse ghettos than they have ever experience done time and am covered in scars and muscles they know that I dont insult them i simply talk the same way they do because i grew up the same they do and they know the way I carry myself if they want to challenge the inflection of my delivery of the word nigger its going to be a physically settled question. if you were not a hipster yuppie faggot you would no that hispanics mideasterners and yes whites too all say nigger just like blacks do and no one questions this because its just how ghetto people talk.I can also call them blodclots bubaclot batty boys.
    whats unusual is I also grew up to go to events at the met and schools on the upper east side at times, and i ended up eventually as a union foreman with mostly minorities under me. I can pass just about any where from biker gathering to the worst slums in mexico or the USa,I even understand enough farsi and spanish to know whats generally being said and can speak it enough to make them worry i understand it all

  223. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    Remember, European nations created artificial boundaries in Africa and herded competing tribal groups into those confined areas, then selected one or two of these tribal groups to serve as underlings. When Africans gained their freedom from their white colonial masters in the 1950′s and 1960′s, it is other than surprising that ethnic and tribal tensions erupted given the fact Europeans had created the conditions for destabilization.

    That is rubbish, no conditions were created for their destabilization. It is true that the division of Africa by European powers had divided tribes first by imperial boundaries and next by national boundaries after independence, no doubt that did cause problems and still do. Many African nations share ethnic groups across borders. But claiming that all Africans were living peacefully before Europeans arrived is just wishful thinking. Indeed the European empires like all empires brought peace and stability to these places. Either under Pax Britainnia or Pax Francia or Pax Lusophonia or other. No longer were the Zulus and Xhosas fighting each other, nor were Zulus fighting Boers. The Ashantis terrorized their neighbours so much that members of other tribes had built an African Venice like village in a lake to escape them. Not anymore, under Pax Britannia, no more inter tribal wars. No more Dahomey braves attacking their neighbouring tribes and terrorizing them under Pax Francia. There was peace.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  224. Rurik says:
    @anarchyst

    4. The election of Coleman Alexander Young, Detroit’s first black mayor, who was overtly racist to Detroit’s white citizens

    don’t forget his successor Kwame Kilpatrick

    it isn’t that places like Detroit or DC happen to have racist thug gangsters as their mayor, the problem is that the racist black denizens of these rat holes of corruption and graft, will always re-elect them as a way of expressing their racist hatred of white people and white society. I suppose it is very likely that if the black citizens of Detroit could vote for Kwame as mayor from his prison cell, they’d do so.

    yes, Detroit was hurt by the idiocy and greed of the auto executives and the idiocy and greed of the UAW

    but to top it off, Detroit became a black city, in part due to the overtly racist policies of the notoriously racist mayor Coleman Young, and now they’re dealing with that legacy.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Malla
  225. Malla says:
    @Malla

    If you ask me, lefty controlled Hollywood, MTV pop culture and even corporate controlled rap culture has a greater chance of destroying traditional African cultures than colonisation ever had. And not only African cultures, even traditional European cultures, traditional White American culture, traditional Hispanic and native American cultures, traditional Asian cultures and others.

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  226. @RadicalCenter

    Not many blacks in AZ or NM. Phoenix has more than Tucson, though. Still, a lot fewer than LA, Denver, Vegas or the East Bay.

    While Texas has a large black population, El Paso’s black population is tiny.

    Kinda proves Fred right.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  227. Truth says:
    @joef

    1st : Because unlike criminal minded afros, most of us do not attack

    Attila the Hun, Napoleon, Hitler, Custer…

    2nd: As I said to you before, many Whites have become limo liberal wimps, more enamored with stylish afro worship than protecting themselves.

    At some point, Big, Joe, a man who is speaking in general terms, must decide, to what degree he is describing himself…

    3rd: If you carefully read what I have been saying in the past: I have no romantic notions about the pending failed state afro initiated race war; because many innocents will suffer from this (which includes many non afro thug Black people);

    But every Edomite on this board has 37 stories about how they were “on there way home from chuch wearing a tuxedo and 14 Negros stopped him and raped his girlfriend (and him) in the Keister!!!! Oh it was terrible!” So “innocents” are suffering now. What do you have to lose?

    4th: It is afro initiated aggressive behavior, and constant parasitical demands for more & more unearned benefits, that is pushing for this; not most Non Blacks who want to peacefully go about their own business.

    OK, we’ve covered this, Israelites are Satan’s Spawn, Edomites are Godly beings who have wings and halos. I get it. The question is, what are YOU going to do to change it?

    5th: Why do you enablers of afro aggression (Blacks like yourself, leftist, and naive libs) always try to convince other Non Blacks who have already accumulated a lifetime worth of negative interactions/observations with afros… you must know that is an exercise in futility

    There is a mass misconception going on on this board that I am trying to convince anyone of anything. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    I am on this board for one reason; to make jokes!
    See Joe, this board is funny as hell as are you and the other posters. Occasionally I will put in something poignant, but generally I realize that is a great waste of my time, you know, the proverbial lipstick and pig. For if you can’t see a cause and effect to the way race relations are now, there really is no hope for you. It is incredibly simple if you have any sort of a brain. You see, for 400 years “you” have been beating, conning, stealing from, murdering, raping and all in all disparaging white people, now for the last 40 years or so, we’ve given you back %0.001 of what we received. And you know what, I don’t hold it against any of you. You did what you did, live moves on. But it’s a little like a see-saw it goes up, and down until a measure of equality is reached.

    6th: Maybe you should be leading the charge of afro reform to become better socially adjusted productive people,

    Again Joe, you misunderstand: I’m not a social worker, I’m a COMEDIAN! Al and Jessie can have all that hassle. I will just continue to make jokes.You see Joe, as your boy Clint Eastwood once said; “a man’s got to know his limitations.” I am roughly the same way around black folks that I am here…and receive the same feedback. But occasionally, if you get with the “Truth” process and stop lying to yourself, black or white, you will become a better man.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @joef
  228. delmas says:

    This is a fine time, Mr Fred Reed, to be mulling over what was obvious to American white Southerners over 50 years ago, when so many Yankees and their Roman Catholic hierarchies in Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc. ad nauseum, were pointing the bony finger at those white racists in Mississippi and Alabama. Where were you then and where have you been all these years? In your cosy white enclave somewhere up North that is suddenly under threat?

    You might have concentrated more fully on some sort of solution which you only allude to in passing in your article, restructuring the country, for example.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  229. MarkinLA says:
    @Grandpa Charlie

    It was actually Clinton who put the breaking of immigration laws under possible RICO type prosecutions. However, they are almost never used. When they do a huge fine is announced to the public that is later renegotiated by the DOJ for pennies on the dollar.

    One case was Mohawk Industries. As is typical, it was blamed on a “rogue employee” who told the illegals where to go to get their fake papers that Mohawk knew were fake. Because the law gave Mohawk cover if the employee had ANY documents the company could plead they were just following the law.

  230. MarkinLA says:
    @Corvinus

    Remember, European nations created artificial boundaries in Africa and herded competing tribal groups into those confined areas, then selected one or two of these tribal groups to serve as underlings. When Africans gained their freedom from their white colonial masters in the 1950′s and 1960′s, it is other than surprising that ethnic and tribal tensions erupted given the fact Europeans had created the conditions for destabilization.

    Give it a rest already. When the colonial period ended there was nothing stopping the African nations from convening a Pan-African conference and redrawing all borders along traditional tribal boundaries.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  231. Ossettian says:
    @Corvinus

    So 6% of slaving voyages from Rhode Island were funded by Jews.

    If there were only 30 Jewish families in Rhode Island, then unless there were no more than 500 families in Rhode Island at the time Jews were overrepresented.

    How many families were there?

  232. Corvinus says:
    @Malla

    “But claiming that all Africans were living peacefully before Europeans arrived is just wishful thinking.”

    I never made that statement directly or indirectly. Of course prior to European jackbooting there had been conflict and war between ethnic and tribal groups in Africa. But they were able to reside in their own redoubts. The Europeans came a-knockin’, and they developed these borders without African input. Moreover, Europeans kept in check this strife as groups who historically had been enemies now lived in close quarters. Once Europeans left, it created a power struggle.

    “That is rubbish, no conditions were created for their destabilization.”

    Extracting natural resources without African consent, creating artificial boundaries, refusing natives to exercise political liberty…you are right, no conditions existed that generated instability. (rolling of eyes).

    • Replies: @Malla
  233. I have know some exceptions on Wall Street.

    The problem is the culture, which is just as you say. It is not stupidity but rather a vile set of beliefs that allows people to blame others for their lack of effort.

  234. joef says:
    @anarchyst

    An excellent summary of the decline of Detroit, slowly being replayed in all other rust belt, BosWash, and California cities. This national train is heading for the cliff, and all the wishful liberal thinking will not prevent it from going over, if we proceed in this most misguided direction. Get ready because Detroit, and Camden NJ is our future.

  235. @Corvinus

    Big difference, genetically and culturally, between mating with Africans and mating with other nonwhite people (such as my Asian wife).

    So the partially correct argument “smart, sensible white people can reasonably choose to mate with nonwhites” is far too broad as stated, and doesn’t excuse the foolish, socially destructive decision to create part-African offspring.

    • Replies: @Truth
  236. MarkinLA says:
    @Truth

    I’m a COMEDIAN!

    Uh, no. You would normally have to be funny to be a comedian. However, you aren’t unprecedented, Jay Leno was also an unfunny comedian. He just got paid a whole lot more for it.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Truth
  237. Corvinus says:
    @MarkinLA

    “When the colonial period ended there was nothing stopping the African nations from convening a Pan-African conference and redrawing all borders along traditional tribal boundaries.”

    It is more complicated than that, and you know it.

    • Replies: @Dave
  238. @Okechukwu

    I’d sincerely like to know. Are there examples of predominantly black middle-class areas that boast average or better statistics on crime, education, voter turnout, or any of the other measures of success and stability?

    These communities should be more well and widely known. We should have them immediately available as examples for discussion, and as models to transform struggling areas – of which just about anybody can immediately name half a dozen or more. Among other things, how can we accuse the media of a liberal bias if everybody hears about the ghettos but nobody ever reports on the successful communities? You’d think they’d be overrepresented, if anything.

    Certainly, hardcore doubters can always use the “exception proves the rule” excuse, but even so I would welcome a handy list of specific exemplary communities that prove the potential of the black underclass to transcend historical challenges. It’s hard to believe that the ones that exist aren’t better known; I’d assume that they’d consistently be used as a rebuttal to racist arguments.

  239. joef says:
    @Corvinus

    Of course it is hypocritical. Either you value human life or you do not value human life. When picking which race ought to live or die, he or she is decidedly being hypocritical.

    I generally agree with your ethic of life, however that does not exclude the right of defending one’s own life, the ones he cares about, and other innocents. Our disagreement is that many of us Non Blacks believe (supported by a great amount of actual personal experiences) that it is in fact afros who do not value human life, and commit acts of homicide against others, that is way out of proportion to other categorical groups of people (which a preponderance of the evidence available reasonably supports such a conclusion). The liberal answer to this is to refute the experience as non existent (as if that will make those memories disappear), but as the victims increase (because the integration of aggressive afros is becoming an ubiquitous presence to Non Blacks), this will become harder to deny.
    Those who speak of not valuing afro lives is a reaction to the constant threat of afro aggression, and if that was not occurring, they would probably have less incentive to do so.

  240. @joef

    My mother was born and raised in the Bronx, in a clean, well kept, friendly neighborhood that was almost entirely Italian and Jewish — but that safe, civilized state of affairs begin to decline decades ago and is gone.

    Her family fled NYC, never to return, immediately after her mother was robbed, with a knife held to her throat before she was slapped in the head and knocked down onto the sidewalk, by a dark-skinned guy having an accent and appearing to be Puerto Rican.

    I’m sure “truth” or some such heartless wise ass will tell us that I’m exaggerating somehow or that her terror, suffering and displacement is not common or doesn’t matter so much.

    • Replies: @joef
    , @Truth
  241. @MarkinLA

    At least Jay was likeable.

    • Replies: @Truth
  242. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    creating artificial boundaries

    OK, I agree the Berlin conference attendees most probably did not consider demographics on the ground while drawing those borders.

    Extracting natural resources without African consent

    Neither were the Malays asked for any consent in British Malaya. Malaysia did not get destabilized in the same way.
    Anyways Europeans conquered the land through blood and sweat, there was no compulsion to ask for consent. Central governments throughout the third world do not ask for consent of the natives to extract resources. Neither did ancient or medieval empires throughout Asia. This is nothing unique about this in European empires. We can open the Pandora’s box of grievances all the way back, the box is huge.

    refusing natives to exercise political liberty

    Neither were the Singaporeans during the British Empire days, how destabilized did Singapore get?

    Ethiopia was never colonized, yet it’s performance is nothing stellar. Liberia was never colonized by any European power but it’s economic performance as well as political stability is not much better than the African nations around her who were part of big European empires. Liberia went through coups and civil wars in the last some decades.
    India was colonized for a much longer period than most African countries, India is politically much more stable then most African countries. Malaysia got her independence much later than India or Egypt, India and Egypt both had a head start, yet Malaysia is economically much better of than both. Similarly Hong Kong got her independence much later than say Kenya, Malaysia or Uganda but is economically the most prosperous of them all. Macau left the Portuguese empire much later than say Angola, yet Macau has a much higher standard of living than Angola.
    This whole colonial thing is bunk.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  243. @delmas

    My very catholic grandparents and parents AGREED with the Southerners about the scourge that Africans are, and the wisdom of keeping America overwhelmingly European in its population and culture. Not in a hateful way, but in a realistic and practical one.

    Italians and the like have never been “the problem” in our country and should not be lumped together with the savages and with far less compatible / assimilable Third Worlders.

  244. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Much easier to expel, quarantine or otherwise liquidate a fringe element of hardcore white supremacist nitwits menacing society than the fantastical delusion of deporting 40 million blacks. Don’t think that the US government doesn’t have contingency planning for this.

    • Replies: @Malla
  245. @joef

    Just want to clarify. I agree with the second paragraph about preparedness for the coming troubles.

    An analysis of the source of the troubles is far too complex to be covered in a blog comment.

  246. joef says:
    @Truth

    OK, we’ve covered this, Israelites are Satan’s Spawn, Edomites are Godly beings who have wings and halos.

    Again you have a bad habit of ascribing things that I never said.

    But every Edomite on this board has 37 stories

    Yes, because they are true… unlike you wasting your time making jokes, we are seriously discussing actual occurrences.

    You see, for 400 years “you” have been beating, conning, stealing from, murdering, raping and all in all disparaging white people, now for the last 40 years or so, we’ve given you back %0.001 of what we received.

    Typical nonsense:

    I wasn’t alive back then.

    Nor were you.

    I am only responsible for my own actions, not the actions of others (and according to you afros are not responsible for any actions they committed).

    No afro alive today was ever a slave (nor was his great grand parents).

    I never owned a slave.

    My ancestors never owned slaves,

    nor were they in this country during slavery.

    It was subsaharan Africans who sold their criminal/crazy/lazy to the White man.

    The reparations have already been paid to you through the death of 600,000 lives during the Civil War, that ended up freeing your ungrateful lot.

    Your afro american people generally did not receive much benefits because you produce nothing of importance (except crime).

    Wow, after 400 years of killing you afros, you are still here!

    Yes, keep on pushing this collective (ancestral) guilt crap to keep your entitlements going, but remember it won’t last forever, and you afros will reap the destruction you have sowed. The only reasons it continues is because you are aided and abetted by other liberal/leftist White elites (definitely not by your own prowess).

    • Replies: @Truth
  247. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    How is this use of violence consistent with the principle of freedom of association?

    Has historically this principle been followed all the time. Did Shaka Zulu care about such said principles? Did Ghenghis Khan care about any such principle? When African tribes conquered neighbouring tribes, did they show a lot of concern about this principle you talk about when they dealt with the conquered tribe?

  248. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Much easier to expel, quarantine or otherwise liquidate a fringe element of hardcore white supremacist nitwits menacing society than the fantastical delusion of deporting 40 million blacks.

    And what about the black supremacist nitwits? Ah, I get it, since their number is much much larger, it is a bigger hassle to send them over, OK I get it. Simple logistics.

    Don’t think that the US government doesn’t have contingency planning for this.

    The US government has some nice cute plans for black Americans too. They are in operation was we speak.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
    , @joef
  249. @Corvinus

    Are you really this stupid or are you just pretending?

    I never claimed to value all human life. I said straight up I value white life more than I value black life. (I also value my mother’s life much more than I do your mother’s.) So there’s no hypocrisy here.

    When picking which race ought to live or die, he or she is decidedly being hypocritical.

    Sigh.

    “Valuing life” does not mean the same thing as “picking which race ought to live or die.” Lol.

    I care more about what happens to whites than I care about what happens to blacks. I’m not out to get blacks. I’m just indifferent to their fate. Merely prospective white suffering disturbs me; whereas even actual black suffering doesn’t move me much at all.

    Does this bother you? Choke on it.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  250. Malla says:
    @Rurik

    What a nasty looking dude!!! Are his deeds just as nasty?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  251. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    As the old proverb says:

    The Negro walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    The White man finds the Negro, takes the well, and makes the Negro fetch him the water.

    Why discriminate with White and negro? They are both human. Since a Somali is the same as an Irishman to you.
    So we can reframe the sentences and correct them.

    It would clearly appear that humans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of human nations.

    As the old proverb says:

    A human walks in the desert, finds the well, and drinks from it.
    Another finds the earlier human, takes the well, and makes him fetch him the water.

    That sounds more right.

  252. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    But again, at the expense of their freedom and culture.

    More examples destruction of darkie cultures by evil colonial YTs.

    1] The British government in India start a college in 1824 to preserve ancient Sanskrit and Pali literature of India.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sanskrit_College_and_University

    Sanskrit College and University (erstwhile Sanskrit College) is a specialized state-government administered Liberal Arts University offering an undergraduate degree in Sanskrit language, Pali language, Linguistics and ancient Indian and world history.[1][2] It is one of the affiliated colleges of the University of Calcutta. Founded on 1 January 1824, Sanskrit College, is one of the oldest educational institutions in the subcontinent.[3] It is a traditional college that specializes in the scholarship of Indian tradition, philosophy and religion. It is located on College Street in central Kolkata. Its centrality is heightened by its proximity to Hindu School, Presidency College, Kolkata, the University of Calcutta, and the Indian Coffee House. It was established during the Governor-Generalship of Lord Amherst, based on a recommendation by HT James Prinsep and Thomas Babington Macaulay among others.

    2] Now some background info: Somnath temple one of the most famous and richest temples of Ancient India was looted by Mohmud of Gazni of Afghanistan. What do the evil colonial YT Brits do to further destroy the Indian culture?

    Well, The British also got back the gates of Somnath Temple back to India which was looted by the Afghans, Oh the horror

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somnath_temple

    In 1782-83 AD, Maratha king Mahadaji Shinde, victoriously brought back three silver gates from Lahore after defeating Mahmud Shah Abdati, to Somnath. After refusal from priests of Gujarat and the then ruler Gaekwad to put them back on Somnath temple, these silver gates were placed in the temples of Ujjain. Today they can be seen in two temples of India, Mahakaleshwar Jyotirlinga and Gopal Mandir of Ujjain.[33][34][35] In 1842, Edward Law, 1st Earl of Ellenborough issued his the Proclamation of the Gates, in which he ordered the British army in Afghanistan to return via Ghazni and bring back to India the sandalwood gates from the tomb of Mahmud of Ghazni in Ghazni, Afghanistan. These were believed to have been taken by Mahmud from Somnath. There was a debate in the House of Commons in London in 1843 on the question of the gates of the temple.[36][37] After much crossfire between the British Government and the opposition, the gates were uprooted and brought back in triumph.

    Destruction of darkie culture, yeah rite

    3] An act passed by the British Indian government in 1904

    Ancient Monuments Preservation Act 1904

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Monuments_Preservation_Act_1904

    The Ancient Monuments Preservation Act, 1904 was passed in 18, March 1904 by British India during the times of Lord Curzon. it is expedient to provide for the preservation of ancient monuments, for the exercise of control over traffic in antiquities and over excavation in certain places, and for the protection and acquisition in certain cases of ancient monuments and of objects of archaeological, historical or artistic interest. Act preserves and restores ancient Indian monuments by Archaeological Survey of India.

    Destruction of culture??

  253. Jim says:
    @JessicaR

    A wide variety of people can be found in any racial/ethnic group. But that fact does not mean that there are not often large differences in average behavior between different races. There is no reason why there should be some universal constant that is say the average cognitive level of every human population or say the average level of violent behavior in every human population. All these averages differ considerably among different races just as say average stature varies between races.

    Different human populations are the result of different evolutionary histories involving biological-cultural coevolution which produced substantial difference in average behavioral dispositions of these groups. As a result people from different racial groups are often poorly adapted to living with each other and violent racial conflict is likely . These problems are often serious even in, for example, Jewish-Gentile relations where the genetic differences are far smaller than the genetic differences between whites and blacks.

    Liberal compassion does not change the biological reality of human beings. Human beings are not fallen angels who are progressing to some fancied utopian society. They are the products of a totally amoral evolutionary process completely indifferent to all human hope or aspiration.

    • Replies: @Hare Krishna
  254. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @joef

    “So we do nothing while things worsen and the world looks on astounded. ”

    It does? Not that I know of. Okay, maybe in China. Europe thinks an American Black has to be twice as good as a White to get a job, for instance. How do I know? I saw it on TV in Germany. A US Black said so himself. Everybody knows that. Americans are so mean and unfair to blacks.

  255. Dave says:
    @Corvinus

    It is actually not more complicated than that. Not at all.
    The problem is that the various ethnicities involved have barely a fraction of the organizational capability of the European colonialists.
    That is the factor that complicates the entire project of African independence. That, and being addicted to Western aid from a variety of sources.
    If Western governments and various private do gooders stopped the welfare payments and developmental aid programs, African people would be forced to sort everything out for themselves.
    It would be a bloodbath, but many areas are already bloodbaths, so giving folks real, radical independence, and not 50 plus years of paternalistic hand holding, is the only hope.

  256. @Jim

    The amount of mixing that has gone on between different human populations in the centuries since Columbus has ended the notion of separate and distinct races that developed separately still existing today, even if they existed at one time. There are other reasons for America’s ethnic/racial problems than biological pseudoscience, namely cultural and political.

  257. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    And what about the black supremacist nitwits? Ah, I get it, since their number is much much larger, it is a bigger hassle to send them over, OK I get it. Simple logistics.

    Nobody’s sending black people anywhere. If you Hindus who only came over after 1965 haven’t been rounded up and deported, what makes you think that black Americans that have built the country for 400 years and fought in every war are going anywhere? In fact without black Americans most of you Indians wouldn’t even be in America to begin with. Every person of color in America owes a debt of gratitude to black Americans. But you’re too dumb and too busy kissing white supremacist ass to understand that. You’re a pathetic little curry chomping bigot.

    The US government has some nice cute plans for black Americans too. They are in operation was we speak.

    You moron, black Americans ARE the US government. Black America IS the United States. Fringe racist types are in the crosshairs and they will be put down hard if it ever comes to that.

  258. Ossettian says:

    African states are dysfunctional because their populations are diverse.

    European and European-founded states need to have more diverse populations.

  259. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    What debt did Chang and Eng owe to black Americans?

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  260. Okechukwu says:
    @Anon

    What debt did Chang and Eng owe to black Americans?

    The civil rights movement obviously lifted all minorities and women. The resulting legislation applied to everyone, not just blacks. I know Indians (the South Asian kind) that take advantage of Affirmative Action and protected group status in their business ventures by registering as minority enterprises. Not only that, the civil rights movement made any kind of discrimination unlawful.

    The 1965 immigration act was a direct offshoot of the civil rights movement, which allowed non-whites to come to America in the first place. Prior to that time America was basically a two race country, 90% white and 10% black.

    The civil rights movement made racism socially unacceptable and broke down barriers that non-black minorities were able to walk through. The Chinese experience, for example, pre and post civil rights, is night and day. Jews were no longer banned from clubs and universities, etc It gave everyone the confidence to assert their rights.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Carroll Price
  261. Corvinus says:
    @silviosilver

    “I never claimed to value all human life.”

    I know, which leads to the inevitable fact that when you choose one group of being as having more value in life compared to another group of people, you cheapen humanity.

    “Valuing life” does not mean the same thing as “picking which race ought to live or die.”

    Given the choice, you would choose white life over black life, especially if meant one race would live at another’s expense.

    “Merely prospective white suffering disturbs me; whereas even actual black suffering doesn’t move me much at all.”

    And that is sociopathic behavior.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  262. anarchyst says:

    I have come to the conclusion that passing the so-called “civil-rights” acts were mistakes. The more “rights” these black bastards demand, the more they complain and make demands not available to whites. When whites become a “minority” in our own country, do you think the “civil-rights” acts will benefit us? I think not…

    When whites become a minority, this country is finished. All one has to do is look at Zimbabwe, South Africa, and other black-run “basket cases”. This is our future…

    That being said…

    The term “racism” was invented by communists, and is used to destroy cultures and defuse (and render impotent) those with differing points-of-view on “racial” issues.

    True “racism” is desirable as it merely cements cultural and social bonds that are necessary for a society to function and flourish.

    True “racism” merely denotes commonality of purpose and advancement within each respective racial group.

    Blacks have the NAACP and Congressional Black Caucus, Hispanics have La Raza and Mecha, Jews have the $PLC, ACLU and ADL. These are all “racist” organizations that serve to promote the interests (and political power) of their respective races.

    It is only whites who are castigated and threatened for attempting to show any signs of racial solidarity.

    Let’s look at what us “evil, privileged” whites have done for Western society and the world:

    1. “Civil-rights (for some)” laws (that effectively destroy “freedom of association” for whites, but not for other races) and do not apply to whites–only “people of color” are covered by these so-called “civil-rights (for some)” protections, (Ask former “Attorney General” Loretta Lynch about that).

    2. “Affirmative action” policies (that push better qualified whites out of positions and jobs that they would ordinarily qualify for) in favor of lesser-qualified minorities. In fact, “affirmative action” policies actually damage those minorities who are quite capable of “making it on their own” because they get “lumped in” with the groups that cannot make it on their own without “help”,

    3. “Contract set-asides” (that are specifically targeted for minorities (that white people are prohibited from bidding on) and immigration policies (that specifically exclude whites, most of who have skills that would benefit the USA) in favor of those from the third-world (with no marketable skills).

    4. Scholarships that specify particular ethnic groups are looked upon favorably by most people, save one–scholarships that are intended for whites only are looked upon as being “racist”, and therefore impermissible and improper in today’s racially-charged climate of “political correctness”.

    NO OTHER RACE (BUT WHITES) HAS (EVER) BENT OVER BACKWARDS to assure that all non-white races receive a “fair shake” in being a part of American life, even to the detriment and social well-being of “our own kind” (whites).

    Whites possess an externalized altruism that no other races possesses. This externalized altruism that “looks out for the other guy” will be the demise of the white race. This altruism needs to be internalized and focused inward, just as other races have done. There is NO SHAME in looking out for one’s own kind.

    “Multiculturalism” and “diversity” are code-words for white genocide.

    I blame those of the “greatest generation” for selling out our birthright with the passage of the “Civil-Rights Acts” of 1957 and 1964, and the “Hart-Cellar immigration act of 1965″. To those of the “greatest generation” (who are still alive) thanks for NOTHING…

    As whites comprise only 6% of the world population, it is us whites who should be the most protected and cherished of minorities…

    • Agree: Carroll Price
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @KenH
    , @Malla
  263. Corvinus says:
    @Malla

    “Neither were the Malays asked for any consent in British Malaya. Malaysia did not get destabilized in the same way.”

    Different set of circumstances there.

    “Neither were the Singaporeans during the British Empire days, how destabilized did Singapore get?”

    Different set of circumstances there.

    “Anyways Europeans conquered the land through blood and sweat, there was no compulsion to ask for consent.”

    I thought that Europeans were a compassionate, rational lot.

    “Ethiopia was never colonized, yet it’s performance is nothing stellar.”

    It had been independent for centuries.

    “Liberia was never colonized by any European power but it’s economic performance as well as political stability is not much better than the African nations around her who were part of big European empires. Liberia went through coups and civil wars in the last some decades.”

    Liberia was essentially an outpost of the United States.

    Regarding India, Hong Kong, and Macau and their stability, again, it was a different set of circumstances regarding how they were treated by the British and their importance to the empire.

    In Africa, consider Cecil Rhodes, who told the House of Assembly in Cape Town (1887) that “the native is to be treated as a child and denied the franchise. We must adopt a system of despotism in our relations with the barbarians of South Africa”. In less oratorical moments, he put it even more bluntly: “I prefer land to niggers.” He personally supervised the seizure of close to a million square miles of prime territory from its inhabitants, which included tracts that stored valuable mineral deposits. In 1896, his name was linked with the Jameson Raid, an illegal effort to annex territory held by the Boers, which was a primary factor for a war that began in 1899 and ended in 1902.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  264. Corvinus says:
    @anarchyst

    “I have come to the conclusion that passing the so-called “civil-rights” acts were mistakes.”

    You arrived at the wrong conclusion.

    “The more “rights” these black bastards demand, the more they complain and make demands not available to whites.”

    You do realize that Southrons were the ones responsible. They could not simply abide by the “separate but equal” doctrine as put forth in the Plessy case. Not surprisingly, white and black Americans said “enough”.

    “When whites become a minority, this country is finished. All one has to do is look at Zimbabwe, South Africa, and other black-run “basket cases”. This is our future…”

    America is not going that route. You are hallucinating.

    “The term “racism” was invented by communists, and is used to destroy cultures and defuse (and render impotent) those with differing points-of-view on “racial” issues.”

    No, it was not invented by communists. Please educate yourself.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2014/01/05/260006815/the-ugly-fascinating-history-of-the-word-racism

    “True “racism” is desirable as it merely cements cultural and social bonds that are necessary for a society to function and flourish.”

    Actually, racism breaks apart cultural and social bonds among diverse groups of people who generally prefer to live amongst one another.

    “Blacks have the NAACP and Congressional Black Caucus, Hispanics have La Raza and Mecha, Jews have the $PLC, ACLU and ADL. These are all “racist” organizations that serve to promote the interests (and political power) of their respective races.”

    And white people have the Alt Right, white nationalists, and the KKK, the best of the civilized whites. (rolling of eyes)

    It is only whites who are castigated and threatened for attempting to show any signs of racial solidarity.

    “Whites possess an externalized altruism that no other races possesses.”

    Patently false. Human beings possess this trait on a continuum, not one race.

    “Multiculturalism” and “diversity” are code-words for white genocide.”

    Actually. pro-race is code for anti-humanity.

    “As whites comprise only 6% of the world population, it is us whites who should be the most protected and cherished of minorities…”

    Feel free to live amongst your own kind, as they are a number of white communities for you to reside in.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @anarchyst
  265. I enjoy reading Fred, even if his columns are mostly recycled. I do applaud Fred’s race relaism. I lived in South Africa for ten-years between 1984 and 1994. I arrived at the peak of Nationalist apartheid power and left when Nelson Mandella was president. White South Africans had no such fear of discussing the genetic differences between the European and African races. The factors that Fred writes were all agreed upon among White South Africans and even their successful Asian Indian minority. Black Africans had poor impulse control, lacked sexual restraint, and were more prone to violence. In general, Blacks did not assimulate into advanced civilization. Do we not see the same thing here in the USA? Much as Asians on average have higher IQs and advanced mathematic ability over Whites, we do see some Black attributes. Black males do tend to have more fast twitch muscle efficiency, sense of rhythm, and an improvisational intelligence. Blacks dominate sports like basketball and football, especially positions that require improvisation, as well as in jazz and rap. Black males tend to have high testosterone and the bigger phallis may or may not be a myth. Fred asked in another column how a low IQ, poor academic achieving minority become America’s privliged race and why is our system obsessed with apeasing them. Professionals lose their careers over any slight that the extremists may deem offensive. Their reresentation in Movies, TV, and advertizing is highly disproportionate to their numbers. I have the forbiden answer that Fred is afraid to state. Jews. Jews have empowered them every step of the way. Jews found the NAACP. Jewish lawyers and judges have advocated their causes. Jewish academia have taught a generation the Black greivance and White oppressor narative. Now Jewish owned and controlled entertainment and advertizing mediums stridently push Black male and White female miscegenation. Yet do you ever see a drama or ad with a Jewish female and a Black male? Will you ever see a drama of a forbidden love between a Jewess and an Arab male? The Dodgers will return to Brooklyn first. Why the Jewish obsession with genetic race mixing? Think about it

    • Replies: @Truth
  266. Truth says:
    @MarkinLA

    Oooohh Markin;

    Let’s just turn that frownie upside-downie.

  267. Truth says:
    @RadicalCenter

    So a blackman is unlikeable on a WN chatboard?

    Well, I guess the Uncle Tom thing is out of the picture…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  268. KenH says:
    @Hare Krishna

    Sorry, won’t work. It would be contingent on having a white majority nationwide and in cities to enforce those standards. Besides, about 40% of whites would resist any measures as “racist”.

    You’re still clinging to old conservative wishful thinking and paradigms of “one standard to rule them all”. How will you impose discipline in black controlled Detroit, Trenton, NE, Gary, IN and E. St Louis, IL?

    It’s time to adapt to the new reality that integration does not work unless by brute government force and even then work must be put in parenthesis.

    Blacks will never clean up their act and step up their game and become almost white in their life performances. Again, it’s time to racially separate and go our own way.

    Once blacks are forced to fend for themselves their death rates will skyrocket and their birth rates will implode. Heartless I know, but it’s time to let nature go back to work.

  269. @silviosilver

    Restructuring is all very well until you have to divvy up the nukes.

  270. KenH says:
    @anarchyst

    Completely agree. There is no historical precedent for a majority race to bankrupt, police and persecute each other over the well being of a savage, ungrateful minority race like the American negro. Or to let this 13% minority bully and browbeat the 60% majority for the last 50 years.

    I chafe at this thought because I almost have to conclude that the majority of whites have become so civilized, so genteel and so liberal, open minded and altruistic that it’s disabled our racial immune systems and we can no longer distinguish racial friend from foe and act in our own best interest. Whites can barely think in racial terms unless it’s to conjure up ways to improve the lives of non-whites even at the expense of their fellow whites.

    This means from a Darwinian perspective a sizable number of whites are no longer fit to inhabit this earth when we’re surrounded by hostile outgroups who haven’t lost their capacity or will to think tribally.

    Pacifism will remain an ideal, war a fact, and if the White race decides to wage it no longer, the dark ones will, and will become the masters of the world.
    Oswald Spengler

    • Agree: joef
    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
  271. @Malla

    ‘ lefty controlled Hollywood, MTV pop culture and even corporate controlled rap culture has a greater chance of destroying traditional African cultures than colonisation ever had. And not only African cultures, even traditional European cultures’

    GREATER CHANCE?? It’s already over. And it’s scientifically done: they get the ‘youfs’, they know precisely what they’re doing. It likely comes back to the likes of the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, those who own such vast portions of ‘society’ (well into the trillions of dollars’ worth).
    White America’s done. Germany’s done. France and Italy, the UK, Ireland. MDMA is rampant in Europe, meth is in America (God knows what else, I’m super out of the loop).
    What a great Dark Age is dawning, nothing like anything hitherto seen in this world!

    • Replies: @Malla
  272. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    Different set of circumstances there.

    Not a good enough excuse. Show me an official document of the European empires which says that we will treat Africans colonies different from Asian colonies and in what way.

    In Africa, consider Cecil Rhodes, who told the House of Assembly in Cape Town (1887) that “the native is to be treated as a child and denied the franchise. We must adopt a system of despotism in our relations with the barbarians of South Africa”.

    Again , not good enough, Cecil Rhodes mush have been a powerful individual in Southern Africa, but we cannot come to the conclusion that was always the official policy of the Empire in time and space.

    It had been independent for centuries.

    Exactly, and it still faced the economic and social pathologies faced by other African countries that were colonized.

    Regarding India, Hong Kong, and Macau and their stability, again, it was a different set of circumstances regarding how they were treated by the British and their importance to the empire.

    Again some documentation. Your word did not run any empire.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  273. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Nobody’s sending black people anywhere. If you Hindus who only came over after 1965 haven’t been rounded up and deported, what makes you think that black Americans that have built the country for 400 years and fought in every war are going anywhere? In fact without black Americans most of you Indians wouldn’t even be in America to begin with. Every person of color in America owes a debt of gratitude to black Americans. But you’re too dumb and too busy kissing white supremacist ass to understand that. You’re a pathetic little curry chomping bigot.

    Read carefully clown, I said ‘black supremacists’ not all black Americans. According to you all black Americans are black supremacists.
    Martin Luther King was highly influenced by Mahatma Gandhi and his struggle. Every black American must thankful to every Indian. But they are all black supremacists.

    You moron, black Americans ARE the US government. Black America IS the United States.

    Put down the pipe.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  274. @Okechukwu

    ‘You moron, black Americans ARE the US government. Black America IS the United States.’

    OK, Chooky, you need to get your pants back on. I know, you big and fretnin and spend all dem day long terrorizing whitey, and you probably gots youself some b—–, ugly but she be white. That’s sooper, Chooky, OK? BUT! You don’ go fretnin ME, Okee choo choo woo. I have no intention, by the way, of bursting your quaint bubble; you go right on believin dat, Mr. Gubmint His Self.

    • Replies: @Malla
  275. anarchyst says:
    @Corvinus

    I see that I have struck a nerve…GOOD. Your counter argument is so much hogwash. I lived through the “civil-rights era” and saw for myself how destructive these “civil-rights policies were, and still are.
    We are living with the results today…
    As for white communities, you are wrong…the United States government will not allow all-white communities.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  276. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    Liberia was essentially an outpost of the United States.

    Not the same as a colony.

    Anyways Europeans conquered the land through blood and sweat, there was no compulsion to ask for consent.”

    I thought that Europeans were a compassionate, rational lot.

    Compared to most conquerers in history, they were.

  277. joef says:
    @Malla

    what makes you think that black Americans that have built the country for 400 years and fought in every war are going anywhere?

    His above response to you is not accurate… to correct the record, they built nothing in 400 year, with the exception of picking cotton for Southern plantation owners. Instead, they benefited from everything Non blacks have built, and paid for.

    They did not fight in every war, they were only integrated during the Korean War, and there were some Blacks who fought for both sides during the American Civil War.

    World War 2 is full of false revisionist history claims of afro american fighting, but here is the real record:

    The Tuskegee airmen were flying after the Allies mostly obtained air superiority;

    Numerous court martial took place of afro army truck drivers who were caught sleeping with supplies, that were badly needed by American Non black soldiers who were doing the fighting and dyeing on the front lines;

    There were afro sailers who were courtmartialed because they refused to load munitions safely stateside in San Francisco, claiming it was dangerous (even though it was more dangerous for Non black Sailors to unload these same munitions on the frontline ports, while being strafed by machine gun fire);

    The 90s liberators story of an afro army tank unit liberating a concentration camp was found to be a complete hoax;

    And the most preposterous claim of all is that there was a 6th beach during D Day composed of afro american soldiers against the best German troops, and were the cause of the D Day victory (I almost cannot stop laughing).

  278. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    You’re a pathetic little curry chomping bigot.

    And you are an irrational racist junglee bandar.

    But you’re too dumb and too busy kissing white supremacist ass to understand that.

    I stick with the truth. But you are too full of hate, lack wisdom and too dumb to understand that.

  279. Malla says:
    @anarchyst

    NO OTHER RACE (BUT WHITES) HAS (EVER) BENT OVER BACKWARDS to assure that all non-white races receive a “fair shake” in being a part of American life, even to the detriment and social well-being of “our own kind” (whites).

    Whites possess an externalized altruism that no other races possesses. This externalized altruism that “looks out for the other guy” will be the demise of the white race. This altruism needs to be internalized and focused inward, just as other races have done. There is NO SHAME in looking out for one’s own kind.

    Very true.

  280. @Hare Krishna

    Maybe. But the property crime, gang conflict, welfare / HeadStart / WIC / Medicaid caseloads, and plain old filthiness of hundreds of Latino towns and neighborhoods around this country cut the other way, right? Camden NJ, part of Norwalk CA, El Monte CA, East LA, ABQ itself, DC and some MD towns, and on and on.

    I wouldn’t be sanguine about the massive Latino population just because the Africans are far worse. We don’t need either here in significant numbers and shouldn’t admit any more.

    Fred is an apologist for all things Mexican and perhaps Hispanic, misleading both himself and others.

  281. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    black Americans ARE the US government.

    Tell that to all the blacks who sit around and complain all day about the US government and the White power structure.

    Black America IS the United States.

    Had that been the case, the USA would have been a giant version of Haiti.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  282. anarchyst says:
    @joef

    You are correct. Even in today’s military, very few blacks are in the “combat arms”. Most blacks are in support positions “in the rear with the gear”. It is whites who predominantly do the fighting…
    In Korea, there were black combat units that “cut and run”–blatant cowardice in face of the enemy. However, in today’s climate of “political correctness”, the service records of those who cut and ran were expunged of any criminal sanction…sorta tells you something.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @joef
  283. anarchyst says:
    @Corvinus

    The concept of “racism” WAS a staple of communism and the Frankfurt school. Counting on NPR for factual information is like counting on CNN for honest “news”…

  284. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Okechukwu

    If you knew Indians who took advantage of AA that makes you a rare breed*. It certainly didn’t help them get into Harvard.

    Which is probably not a bad thing because if your greatest achievement as a people so far is to help other people get involved in race-huckstering you guys should really turn your efforts to better ends.

    *In the US; there’s plenty of AA for various people in India.

  285. @Okechukwu

    Not only that, the civil rights movement made any kind of discrimination unlawful.

    Sounds like Communist doctrine to me. Which is exactly what it is.

  286. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    On the other hand there were the Ethiopians who were some of the best soldiers of the war. I guess it varies.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  287. @Corvinus

    Jews make no secret of the fact that they consider the life of a Jew to be many times more valuable than the life of a Gentile.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  288. utu says:
    @joef

    they refused to load munitions safely stateside in San Francisco, claiming it was dangerous

    They were onto something.

    The Port Chicago disaster was a deadly munitions explosion that occurred on July 17, 1944, at the Port Chicago Naval Magazine in Port Chicago, California, United States. Munitions detonated while being loaded onto a cargo vessel bound for the Pacific Theater of Operations, killing 320 sailors and civilians and injuring 390 others. Most of the dead and injured were enlisted African American sailors.

    A month later, unsafe conditions inspired hundreds of servicemen to refuse to load munitions, an act known as the Port Chicago Mutiny. Fifty men‍—‌called the “Port Chicago 50″‍—‌were convicted of mutiny and sentenced to 15 years of prison and hard labor, as well as a dishonorable discharge. Forty-seven of the 50 were released in January 1946; the remaining three served additional months in prison.

    • Replies: @joef
  289. Truth says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Big difference, genetically and culturally, between mating with Africans and mating with other nonwhite people (such as my Asian wife).

    Not if you’re for WHITE heritage preservation there isn’t.

    Man, Attila is the only one with stones here; and she’s a she.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  290. joef says:
    @RadicalCenter

    I’m sure “truth” or some such heartless wise ass will tell us that I’m exaggerating somehow or that her terror, suffering and displacement is not common or doesn’t matter so much.

    Well if you noticed his last reply to me, it shows the typical mindset of afro animosity. He goes on with the worn out claim of 400 years of oppression… blah blah blah. Now understand their claim here: we are responsible for actions that took place before we even born into existence, yet afros are not even responsible for the contemporary acts that they themselves have committed.

    This basically exhibits an inability to come to terms with them. You cannot negotiate with these unreasonably deranged claims. When it comes down to it, they will always justify their aggression against Non blacks, and their parasitical behavior. They will never stop demanding more. They will never be sorry for what they do. It basically comes down to the impossibility of peaceful coexistence with afros who irrationally hate whitey (Non blacks) without cause.

    Further they do not even understand that the basics of economics is the distribution of scarce resources. Their infantile belief is that welfare entitlements are an infinite source of never ending goodies. They have no concept of limits. They are like locusts that will consume everything until there is nothing left for anyone.

    Now, the fearful liberal solution is to give in, pander & praise afros for fake accomplishments, become willing victims, pay more taxes to increase entitlements (when you add all the property/sales/income/fines/fees/forfeiture/tolls up, the govt is already confiscating about 60% of our hard earned money, to pay for these ungrateful freeloading afros), call us all racist, and prosecute Non blacks for fake hate crimes. Liberals naively believe that afros look upon them as the good white people, which is completely laughable, since most afros are incapable of making such distinctions.

    So nothing will get solved, and there will be no reversal of our current political trajectory. So we are heading towards the national disaster of eventual failed state like conditions, prolonged economic crisis from chronic debt defaults, and racial balkanization, with a potential afro initiated race war when the entitlements can no longer be sustained. All we can do is to go underground and wait for this calamitous outcome to happen. This is not an optimistic picture of the future, but once you acknowledge this potential outcome as becoming more & more likely, you have an obligation to yourself, and the ones you care about, to be ready for it.

    However understand that this situation subsists only by massive amount of government inputs. Once those government inputs disintegrate, due to constant inability to service our overloaded debt burdens; and the unraveling of our legal system that protects afro aggression from legitimate retaliation, this situation will start to end. Once this great struggle occurs, and plays itself out, limolibs, leftist and afros, will no longer be the major problem they once were (these harsh conditions, with lack of govt support, will cause many of them to simply die off). Unfortunately we will go through a great deal of suffering to rectify this situation. I said frequently, if afros do not want this outcome then they should change their ways, but obviously they choose not to, with their ever increasing antagonism and demands.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  291. Truth says:
    @RadicalCenter

    I’m not Puerto Rican.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  292. Truth says:
    @joef

    I am only responsible for my own actions, not the actions of others (and according to you afros are not responsible for any actions they committed).

    LOL, Great Bro. I ain’t OJ, or the Zodiac Killers.

  293. Bill Jones says: • Website
    @Vinteuil

    No. It is not possible to overstate Trumps balls up. The correct response would be: We expect Americans abroad to obey the laws of the country just as we demand foreigners to obey ours.

  294. Truth says:
    @swan.knight

    I enjoy reading Fred, even if his columns are mostly recycled.

    Fred has three columns:

    1. I hate Knee-Grows
    2. I love Mess-Kins
    3. War sux.

    The young man’s columns aren’t recycled; that would imply being taken to a factory, he’s is just washing them out and refilling them at this point.

  295. joef says:
    @anarchyst

    Agreed. If they brought up someone like Doris Miller of Pearl Harbor, then I can agree with them. But that just shows you the irrational incompetence of afros, who instead of finding real legitimate examples of Black military heroics, make things up instead. This is enabled by gullible liberals who are more than willing to pander & praise fake afro accomplishments. Liberals love to believe stories of the mythological afro savior (which the rest of us recognize as mostly fictional, or rare).

  296. Druid says:
    @Malla

    True. This was once described by a very high-ranking general in the South African army as blacks mostly thinking in two-dimensions rather than three-dimensions in most others

  297. Malla says:
    @joef

    Thanks for all the info. Wasn’t there this famous incident in the Korean war where the black soldiers ran away, screaming like little girls when the Chinese started mortaring them, leaving the few White officers to face the heat? It seems the U.S. army has suppressed mentioning this incident recently.

  298. Malla says:
    @daniel le mouche

    LOL This clown, Okechukwu is a delusional retard. But I find his posts funny.

  299. joef says:
    @utu

    You are correct … however, Non black servicemen had to unload those very same unsafe munitions off the boats, on the front lines. It was war, and the loading/unloading of munitions carried with it a certain level of risk. This was not a unique situation. During this world war, there were countless ports that had to do that same dirty risky job, and they performed this job with quiet determination, unlike the Port Chicago 50. [been a long time utu, hope you are doing well, I generally enjoyed our spars, even when I disagreed with you, lol]

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Truth
  300. Truth says:
    @Malla

    People with high IQ are more likely to think about the long term consequences of their actions.
    One of the many reasons why shopkeepers in third world countries ripping off and cheating their customers is so common is because they do not care about their moral reputation in the long term. They rip off their customers and gloat to themselves how cunning and smart they are.

    So Wall Street bankers are low IQ?

    • Replies: @Malla
  301. @KenH

    It’s a lot more likely than any sort of racial separation/segregation. We’re too mixed now for that to ever work You’re still clinging to old school Jim Crowism and Plessy v. Ferguson thinking, but those sort of policies created the mess we’re in now.

    If dysfunction is no longer subsidized we will have much less of it. As with anything else.

    As for Gary and East St. Louis those are dying cities that are beyond saving. Even Detroir is salvageable but Gary and ESL are not. They will just continue to lose population until they are completely abandoned.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @KenH
  302. Okechukwu says:
    @joef

    They did not fight in every war, they were only integrated during the Korean War, and there were some Blacks who fought for both sides during the American Civil War.

    You’re a lying piece of shit. Funny, based on your remarks here you’d shit your pants in terror at the sight of a couple of 13 year old black boys. Yet here you are trying to impugn the valor of brave men who willingly went to war knowing they could die horrible deaths.

    Thank god for your keyboard, eh? If anything ever went down in real life we’d expect to find you hiding under your bed.

    • Replies: @joef
  303. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Martin Luther King was highly influenced by Mahatma Gandhi and his struggle. Every black American must thankful to every Indian. But they are all black supremacists.

    Gandhi was a racist Hindu and the original Indian Uncle Tom. Your own uncle tom buffoonery on these boards is quite reminiscent of Gandhi circa late 19th and early 20th century South Africa.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  304. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Tell that to all the blacks who sit around and complain all day about the US government and the White power structure.

    We literally just had a black family in the White House, you clown. Black people were, are and have always been deeply embedded in the American governmental power structure, often disproportionately so. Same goes for the most powerful military in the world. One black finger can wipe out hundreds of millions of publicly defecating Indians with a push of a button.

    Had that been the case, the USA would have been a giant version of Haiti.

    Why Haiti in particular? Why not other black Caribbean countries that make India look like the squalid third world shithole it is?

    • Replies: @Malla
  305. Malla says:
    @Truth

    Good point. Wall Street bankers are high IQ individuals who too are more likely to think about the long term consequences of their actions. But consequences for only THEMSELVES, not any nations or other humans or other living beings. They are more likely to be high IQ, low empathy psychopaths.

    The media tries to ensure to patch up their reputation as much as possible and the common people can be kept busy with other distractions. But it is becoming harder lately. See those third world shop keepers I spoke of are on average just low IQ versions of Wall Street bankers. Both groups share the same greed and lack of empathy but differ in IQ.

  306. Okechukwu says:
    @KenH

    Again, it’s time to racially separate and go our own way.

    Plenty of rural areas you can move to where there are very few black people. I’ve been to some of these areas and, frankly, I don’t understand why anyone would want to live there. But the natives seem perfectly contented. So knock yourself out.

    Once blacks are forced to fend for themselves their death rates will skyrocket and their birth rates will implode. Heartless I know, but it’s time to let nature go back to work.

    Seriously, do you really believe this junk? Actually, for someone like me this is hilarious. I fend for myself just fine. In fact whites come to me for help, including the dozens I employ who depend on me to feed their kids and pay their mortgage.

    Okay, you’d better get back to the drawing board.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @KenH
    , @Ed
  307. utu says:
    @joef

    Keep in mind that the strike or revolt was just one month after the explosion that killed several hundreds. If the explosion occurred in UK when the ammo was unloaded it is possible that English dock workers would also be reluctant to proceed few weeks after the tragedy.

    Your 2nd point that ammo was being handled during the battle under fire while Blacks were reluctant to do it in relative safety of SF is misguided. First it was not safe because the tragedy actually happened. And second, people do different things when under fire during the battle and have different reactions due to different expectations.

    I realize that what you wrote is a litany that probably you have delivered many times before as your killer arguments. And most likely you were not challenged by your interlocutors who were either more ignorant than you or who just shared your prejudice so they liked the argument. I am not challenging you but just pointing out that you should be more careful when constructing a spiel and definitively should evaluate facts and logic. You should skip the part of Blacks not wanting to load ammo from your litany.

    • Replies: @joef
  308. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    We literally just had a black family in the White House, you clown. Black people were, are and have always been deeply embedded in the American governmental power structure, often disproportionately so.

    Yet many blacks in the ghetto still bleat and berate about the White power structure and the US government wanting to keep them down.

    Black people were, are and have always been deeply embedded in the American governmenta

    If black people were always deeply embedded in the American government structure, then common blacks have nothing to blame Whitey for. I mean segregation, Jim Crow, racism. How could all these happen with blacks being so powerful. It shows that even after having so much power in the government, those powerful blacks could not stop these things from happening for which most black people bleat and bark about, they have to be pretty incompetent to stop these things from happening after having so much power. Or else these powerful blacks in the government approved of segregation as they believed it was good for America and black Americans in general. Or else they hated the common black people and enjoyed the poor condition of most black people. If the black elites are so hateful of the common black American, then having such powerful people in government is no use, is it?
    So I guess, blacks blaming Whitey for all their problems of the past were just imagining things. LOL. Thanks for making that clear. May thousands of Whites read this.

    Why Haiti in particular? Why not other black Caribbean countries that make India look like the squalid third world shithole it is?

    Why not Haiti?
    How can you compare tiny Carribean countries to a giant country like India. Mumbai has as much people compared to all of the Carribean combined
    Why not compare with Guyana, where the Indians dominate the local economy and blacks bleat and bray about racism?

    One black finger can wipe out hundreds of millions of publicly defecating Indians with a push of a button.

    But the software for those missiles were not written by black fingers but brown fingers. And we have put some codes in there that if the black finger were to launch them on India, the ICBMs would end up landing on Detroit. LOL

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  309. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Gandhi was a racist Hindu

    Yet the equation goes, MLK was deeply influenced by Gandhi and used Satyagraha like techniques and without MLK there would have been no civil rights as the legend goes. it was an Indian, a racist Indian at that who was eventually responsible for blacks getting civil rights. All blacks in the USA should remember this and respect Indians.

    the original Indian Uncle Tom

    The Uncle Tom defeated the British Empire in it’s most populous colony.

  310. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Once blacks are forced to fend for themselves their death rates will skyrocket and their birth rates will implode. Heartless I know, but it’s time to let nature go back to work.

    Seriously, do you really believe this junk?

    Its no junk, it’s fact.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  311. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    I thought that Europeans were a compassionate, rational lot.

    And that has been their weakness, using compassion and rationality when dealing with others especially Africans. They should have learnt from us upper caste Hindus. We convinced the lower castes that they were lower castes and thus slaves because of their sins in the last birth. If they would do their duty properly of the slave caste they were born in such as cleaning the gutter, cleaning toilets etc… for us, they would be reincarnated in their next birth as upper caste. Worked like a charm, the caste slavery worked for a cool 1500 years. Hindu God Lord Krishna in the Hindu Holy book Bhagavad Gita stresses this point about duty, castes and reincarnation. He tells the lower castes to serve the castes above him with cheer in his heart because that is his dharma, his duty. Inequality is the nature of man in Manusmriti, a holy book of Hinduism. No Christian compassion b.s. here. LOL. You know Whites are high IQ and all that but when it comes to human nature, many of them can be a bit naive. They should have learnt from us.

    Or else they could have used harsh brutality which Middle Easterners use. It works.

    It works in Yemen

    works in Iraq

    works in India

    works in Morocco

    works in Libya

    works in Israel

    But tell me is there any Black lives Matters in these places? Are there any Al Sharptons in these places? The blacks are kept in line.

    I remember the Nobel prize winner V.S. Naipaul on his trip to Pakistan talking to a Pakistani why Islam is the best religion (in the book ‘Among the Believers’). The Pakistanis said that Judaism is all laws (the mizvots). Christianity is all compassion. the Pakistani says ‘But compassion only angers the primitive man. If you are too kind to an African, it will only anger him more’. Thus Islam with it’s combination of laws and compassion has the best combination according to him

    So has White compassion worked? Nahhhhh. Did White’s using rationality work? nahhhh. Instead of Christianity, they should have taught the slaves the Hindu Manusmuti, convince the slaves that they were black slaves because of the sins of their last birth and if they work hard they would be born as White Masters in their next birth. Slavery would have worked a cool 1500 years at least. Should have consulted a Brahmin. Anyways the industrial revolution and modern machinery was making slavery redundant.

    • Replies: @Malla
  312. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Gandhi was a racist Hindu

    Kindly use the word Hindu with reverence.

  313. Malla says:
    @daniel le mouche

    There is still hope. Not all is over.

  314. Malla says:
    @Malla

    And about the evil Whiteys who went around the world and destroyed cultures, they played a big part in destroying the above mentioned caste system. For this, many Hindu nationalists hate the evil Whitey British with a passion, “They destroyed our ancient culture”, they all cry out. The above mentioned caste system where a lower caste person was born a slave from birth to death as per the ancient Hindu scriptures of the Manusmruti, was one of the aspects of Indian culture destroyed by the British. Poor Brits, White colonial guilt for destroying a type of brutal discrimination being around for thousands of years.
    Man, this world is crazy!!!

    • Replies: @Bliss
  315. anarchyst says:
    @joef

    Emmett Till’s father was executed by the U S military for multiple rapes…the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree…

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  316. Corvinus says:
    @anarchyst

    “Counting on NPR for factual information is like counting on CNN for honest “news”…”

    Exactly what floors me about members on the Coalition of the Right Fringe and on the Coalition of the Left Fringe. Both epitomize either willful ignorance or blind stupidity. You have to do more than simply dismiss my source regarding communism and the origins of “racism” as “hogwash”. Rather, you must offer facts (not SJWesque emotion filled language) to counter the source. Simply automatically labeling any and all sources whom you personally believe is essentially “Fake News” is shouts intellectual sterility. It is increasingly problematic in today’s society that the left and the right race to the bottom of the brainstem by totally discounting sources, rather than systematically parsing out the story and comparing those details with other sources on that particular topic. There is a decided difference between having an opinion and having an informed opinion on the matter.

    From Infogalatic–”An entry in the Oxford English Dictionary (2008) defines racialism simply as “An earlier term than racism, but now largely superseded by it,” and cites it in a 1902 quote. The revised Oxford English Dictionary cites the shortened term “racism” in a quote from the following year, 1903. It was first defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as “[t]he theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race”, which gives 1936 as the first recorded use. Additionally, the Oxford English Dictionary records racism as a synonym of racialism: “belief in the superiority of a particular race.”

    “I lived through the “civil-rights era” and saw for myself how destructive these “civil-rights policies were, and still are.”

    Which is your opinion on the matter.

    “As for white communities, you are wrong…the United States government will not allow all-white communities.”

    You mean citizens of the United States prefer to other than live in all-white communities. But certainly there are nearly all-white communities or even nearly all-white neighborhoods. Feel free to live there.

    “The concept of “racism” WAS a staple of communism and the Frankfurt school.”

    You are ill informed.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  317. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    “…essentially stole his wealth…” …. “honeypot”
    1. Only a scoundrel could come with such nonsense on this forum.
    2. If you mean that “honeypot” is the place for informed discussion among intelligent people — that’s true. Although judging from your derogatory tenor this forum is not for you. Would not it be too much to infer that you belong to this crowd? – https://www.adl.org/news/article/ron-unz-controversial-writer-and-funder-of-anti-israel-activists “Unz is involved in other endeavors that raise questions about his views of Jews and Israel.” –Is this your soft spot, Anonymous? Seems that you prefer the manageable MSM to the PC-incorrect social media.

  318. Corvinus says:
    @anarchyst

    “Emmett Till’s father was executed by the U S military for multiple rapes…the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree…”

    You do realize that Carolyn Bryant said what happened was not true.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/us/emmett-till-lynching-carolyn-bryant-donham.html

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  319. Corvinus says:

    “And that has been their weakness, using compassion and rationality when dealing with others especially Africans.”

    Actually, helping others is a source of strength. Teaching youngsters the importance of giving to others, whether time, money or energy, is one of the most valuable character traits in a child of God.

    Philippians 2:4–Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.

    John 4:11–Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.

    “They should have learnt from us upper caste Hindus. We convinced the lower castes that they were lower castes and thus slaves because of their sins in the last birth.”

    In India, an ancient system of social coercion that has been under strenuous and deserved attack.

    https://thediplomat.com/2016/08/destroy-indias-caste-system-before-it-destroys-india/

    “Or else they could have used harsh brutality which Middle Easterners use. It works…”

    Snippets of videos by individuals who already have preconceived notions of a group of people is not demonstrating how a system “works”.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  320. Truth says:
    @joef

    So the black ones were smart enough to protect their lives, and you have an issue with this for some reason?

    • Replies: @Anon
  321. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @MBlanc46

    The US has mightily benefited from the infusion of European and Asian brains; without them the “here” would perhaps have become a third world country much faster than the current rate of transformation allows. And may I ask you, are you a Mayflower descendant or a progeny of some late newcomers from impoverished lands overseas?

  322. Corvinus says:
    @Malla

    “Not a good enough excuse.”

    The Malays and the Singaporeans had a different set of circumstances compared to the Africans regarding their existing political and economic structures. As a result, some colonies were in a much better position to move forward as a nation once they gained their freedom from their European jackbooters.

    Attitudes and treatment was essentially similar for European nations toward their colonies.

    https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/1884ferry.asp

    Frenchmen Jules Ferry–”Gentlemen, we must speak more loudly and more honestly! We must say openly that indeed the higher races have a right over the lower races…I repeat, that the superior races have a right because they have a duty. They have the duty to civilize the inferior races…In the history of earlier centuries these duties, gentlemen, have often been misunderstood; and certainly when the Spanish soldiers and explorers introduced slavery into Central America, they did not fulfill their duty as men of a higher race…But, in our time, I maintain that European nations acquit themselves with generosity, with grandeur, and with sincerity of this superior civilizing duty. I say that French colonial policy, the policy of colonial expansion, the policy that has taken us under the Empire [the Second Empire, of Napoleon 1111, to Saigon, to Indochina [Vietnam], that has led us to Tunisia, to Madagascar-I say that this policy of colonial expansion was inspired by…the fact that a navy such as ours cannot do without safe harbors, defenses, supply centers on the high sea…Are you unaware of this? Look at a map of the world.”

    “Cecil Rhodes mush have been a powerful individual in Southern Africa, but we cannot come to the conclusion that was always the official policy of the Empire in time and space.”

    Of course we can arrive at that conclusion, considering Rhodes served as Prime Minister of the Cape Colony from 1890 to 1896. Rhodes desired to create an international movement to extend British influence. “Why should we not form a secret society with but one object,” he once said, “the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole world under British rule, for the recovery of the United States, for making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire?” He also backed the failed Jameson Raid of 1895, in which a small British force attempted to overthrow Paul Kruger, the Afrikaner president of the gold-rich Transvaal Republic. The result? The Second Boer War.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  323. Corvinus says:
    @Carroll Price

    “Jews make no secret of the fact that they consider the life of a Jew to be many times more valuable than the life of a Gentile.”

    You meant to say SOME Jews feel this way.

    • Replies: @Malla
  324. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    Yeah– refusing to face danger for the common good is something that destroys a people.

    • Replies: @Truth
  325. anarchyst says:
    @Corvinus

    In her old age, Carolyn Bryant is attempting to atone for the death of Emmett Till–nothing more. There are WITNESSES who observed Emmett Till grab and fondle Carolyn Bryant…

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  326. anarchyst says:
    @Corvinus

    Any white group that attempts to establish an all white enclave WILL bear the heavy-handed wrath of the federal government. HUD WILL force “integration”–wanted or not.

  327. Rurik says:
    @Malla

    Are his deeds just as nasty?

    among other things, he used the Detroit police dept. as his private goon squad and the city treasury as his bling funds

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Kilpatrick#Manoogian_Mansion_party

    keep in mind this is the notoriously liberal Wiki

  328. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    The Malays and the Singaporeans had a different set of circumstances compared to the Africans regarding their existing political and economic structures. As a result, some colonies were in a much better position to move forward as a nation once they gained their freedom from their European jackbooters.

    What different set of circumstances?

    Attitudes and treatment was essentially similar for European nations toward their colonies.

    Exactly, yet we get different results after decolonization.

    Of course we can arrive at that conclusion, considering Rhodes served as Prime Minister of the Cape Colony from 1890 to 1896.

    Yeah sure, but how did he influence the colonial policy of West Africa? West Africa never saw large scale European settlement unlike Southern Africa or say Kenya.This is only Southern Africa.

    • Replies: @Malla
  329. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    Actually, helping others is a source of strength.

    Helping others indiscriminately is a sign of stupidity. In most parts of the world you will not survive long with that kind of stupidity. No holy spirit will come and save you.

    Philippians 2:4–Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.

    John 4:11–Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.

    The Bible means nothing to me, you are wasting your time. I can quote the Manusmruti (much more ancient than the Bible), and it will perhaps mean nothing to you.

    Snippets of videos by individuals who already have preconceived notions of a group of people is not demonstrating how a system “works”.

    What kind of dumb statement is that? Snippets of videos? One of them is a 45 minute documentary from a reputed global company. Another video is made by the Times of India, which is one of the most reputed Media company in India. If you want I can furnish more documentaries. How can you be so sure these videos do not reflect the general attitudes of the local populations?

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  330. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    “Frenchmen Jules Ferry–”Gentlemen, we must speak more loudly and more honestly! We must say openly that indeed the higher races have a right over the lower races…I repeat, that the superior races have a right because they have a duty. They have the duty to civilize the inferior races…In the history of earlier centuries these duties, gentlemen, have often been misunderstood; and certainly when the Spanish soldiers and explorers introduced slavery into Central America, they did not fulfill their duty as men of a higher race…But, in our time, I maintain that European nations acquit themselves with generosity, with grandeur, and with sincerity of this superior civilizing duty. I say that French colonial policy, the policy of colonial expansion, the policy that has taken us under the Empire [the Second Empire, of Napoleon 1111, to Saigon, to Indochina [Vietnam], that has led us to Tunisia, to Madagascar-I say that this policy of colonial expansion was inspired by…the fact that a navy such as ours cannot do without safe harbors, defenses, supply centers on the high sea…Are you unaware of this? Look at a map of the world.

    Totally irrelevant!!. This does not specifically say that non Africans will be treated better than Africans. Until this can be shown as official policy, claiming that black countries performing worse than other countries is due to colonialism is nothing but making lame excuses.

  331. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Exactly, yet we get different results after decolonization.

    I take that back as I misunderstood what you said.

    Attitudes and treatment was essentially similar for European nations toward their colonies.

    Completely false. There were big differences between different colonial empires. The Portuguese and French socially mixed more with their subjects unlike the British and French. You can go to Algeria and see the greater influence France has on the culture and cuisine of Algeria than say a British colony who mostly left the native cultures alone compared to the French or the Portuguese. Of all the colonial empires, the British industrialized their colonies much more then the others. There are even differences in legal systems between the empires and their colonies. Entering the state of Goa itself from it’s neighbouring state of India, one can understand th stark difference between an ex British colony and an ex-Portuguese ruled ex colony thought Goa is now a part of India.

  332. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Specific examples to the contrary, please.

  333. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    In India, an ancient system of social coercion that has been under strenuous and deserved attack.

    https://thediplomat.com/2016/08/destroy-indias-caste-system-before-it-destroys-india/

    And the evil British Empire run by White destroyers of cultures as you put it, played the biggest part (after the destruction of Buddhism in India) in weakening this evil system of social coercion.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  334. Malla says:
    @Hare Krishna

    You’re still clinging to old school Jim Crowism and Plessy v. Ferguson thinking, but those sort of policies created the mess we’re in now.

    You got it the other way round. Dismantling those systems created the mess you guys are in now.

    • Agree: KenH
    • Replies: @Malla
  335. joef says:
    @Okechukwu

    What a bunch of nonsense…
    Again if you were talking about Doris Miller, of Pearl Harbor fame, than I have no argument…
    However your side makes things up plain and simple, don’t blame us if we question it …
    Anything I said can be readily confirmed by reading the news source of the era (not pandering modern revisionisms)…

    As far as being fearful of afros …
    Afro ghetto valor attack the old, the frail, and infirm, and other helpless people on the streets, on a routine basis in every city across America…
    Their valor pick easy marks with unprovoked violence, where they have an unfair advantage in numbers, weapons, size, age…
    I been there done that with afro bullies, I’ve been confronted with unprovoked afro violence many times in my younger years (I personally known innocent Non black people who were killed by afros); and when they attacked, I usually prevailed. I never started a confrontation, but I ended plenty of them. (it was amazing the tougher Blacks who ran a drug corner, or were their enforcers, or those who were trained boxers, never looked for additional trouble by starting fights, they were legitimately tough, unlike the typical all show no go afros who liked to attack easy targets, who always started the confrontation, and cried foul when they lost the fight)…
    As usual, you afros cannot stand criticism/debate without personally attacking a person. This childlike easily offended egocentric attitude proves why we are incapable of peaceful coexistence. We should amicably separate, but afros don’t want Non blacks to stop footing the bill.

  336. joef says:
    @utu

    Your 2nd point that ammo was being handled during the battle under fire while Blacks were reluctant to do it in relative safety of SF is misguided. First it was not safe because the tragedy actually happened. And second, people do different things when under fire during the battle and have different reactions due to different expectations.

    Yes, and those same servicemen unloading those very same loaded munitions, on the front line, obviously heard about that very same explosion… are you suggesting that those very same munitions have somehow been rendered completely safe during the cargo voyage to the front lines?… obviously not. Those frontline servicemen knew the risks, heard of the tragedy, handled the same munitions, but still managed to perform their jobs, under additional dangerous circumstances.

    • Replies: @utu
  337. Truth says:
    @Anon

    Yeah, thank God for all those whiteboyz who sacrificed their to make the Bush family, the Rockefllers and the Rothchilds richer.

    • Replies: @Anon
  338. @silviosilver

    Why not? Because deep down everyone knows that they depend on white society to maintain the lifestyle they are accustomed to. Without that, they would quickly regress to their mean, Africa.

    True, they resent this dependency, but they grudgingly prefer it over the alternative. As Mohammad Ali said, they’re all glad their ancestors got on those boats.

  339. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    Well, OK by me, but you’ll have to sort that out with Okechukwu who believes that blacks are and have always been the US government.

  340. Malla says:
    @Malla

    The Portuguese and French socially mixed more with their subjects unlike the British and Dutch.*

  341. KenH says:
    @Hare Krishna

    How is your tough love/one standard approach more likely to become reality? Try it and you’ll set off race riots and lawsuits around the nation. It will be decried as white supremacy and Eurocentric.

    There’s already much de facto racial segregation around the nation, so my alternative isn’t anything earth shattering or impossible. Jim Crow and Plessy v. Ferguson didn’t create the mess we’re in now. Jim Crow was working and Plessy upheld the doctrine of separate but equal. It was the Jewish communist long march through the institutions that turned everything on its head starting with Brown vs. Board of Ed. and gave us the elegant mess we have today.

    Black and white people were much better off and race relations were far less toxic during the era when Jim Crow and Plessy were the law of the land.

    Gary and East St. Louis are beyond saving because they are full of blacks. How can you salvage Detroit with it’s 80% black population and make them all quasi dittoheads? Sure, we could stop subsidizing black dysfunction but that will only go so far and any attempts to do so will be met with riots, violence and lawsuits when you take their free goodies away.

    America cannot be reformed so it’s time to flush this nation down the toilet and start anew. The problem with boomer conservatives is that you keep trying to make elements of radical leftism, like forced racial integration, work.

  342. @daniel le mouche

    Shipping them out is not an option. They are citizens. The solution IMO is not just a border wall with Mexico, but a medieval type city wall with a minimum number of gates controlling, from the OUTSIDE, who enters or exits.

  343. Vincent says:
    @Hare Krishna

    Indeed. All those asian kids here in the US are such horrid students.

  344. Corvinus says:
    @anarchyst

    “In her old age, Carolyn Bryant is attempting to atone for the death of Emmett Till–nothing more. There are WITNESSES who observed Emmett Till grab and fondle Carolyn Bryant…”

    Disqualify, disqualify, disqualify. OK, hotshot, who are these specific witnesses? What did they particularly see? I’m sure you can offer up a primary source, right? RIGHT?

    Carefully consider that the account given by Carolyn was that she was alone in the store that day; her sister-in-law was in the rear of the store watching children.

  345. Okechukwu says:
    @Malla

    Yet many blacks in the ghetto still bleat and berate about the White power structure and the US government wanting to keep them down.

    Whites berate the white power structure too, dummy.

    How can you compare tiny Carribean countries to a giant country like India.

    You’re the one that brought up Haiti, which, by the way, at least isn’t a vast shit heap with people dropping their pants and defecating anywhere and everywhere. Nor do Haitians roam the streets raping anything that moves as you Indians do. Nor is Haiti the slavery capital of the world as India is.

    But the software for those missiles were not written by black fingers but brown fingers.

    Yeah, I have personal experience with your “software engineers.” We tried to save money by outsourcing some tech functions to your beloved India. Well let me just say that after awhile we discovered that we were actually losing money by spending so much time and energy trying to instruct these Indians on how to accomplish basic things that even a 4 year old can handle. These people could not follow simple instructions. Everything had to be redone and redone and redone again. I don’t know if it’s something cultural or if bacteria from all the filth they’re surrounding by seeped into their brains and wrecked havoc on their cognitive functions. Long story short, it became clear to us that even if Indian companies are offering to do work for a tiny fraction of what everyone else charges, it just isn’t worth it to engage them. Not if you value your time and your sanity.

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    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  346. @Anon

    Which war? There has been no meaningful number of Ethiopians in the USA or US military until very recently, at best.

    • Replies: @Anon
  347. @Truth

    You’re arguing that there’s not a big cultural and genetic difference between mating with Africans and mating with asians? Okay, then. Everyone else here can decide whether that’s reasonable.

    • Replies: @Truth
  348. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @AvalancheComing

    But even if you chip them, the women will have 10 kids each and they’ll all find their way to the Lands of the Freebies.

    So even your solution – – which will never be implemented because it’s so harsh – – isn’t remotely harsh enough to work.

    The only solution is enforced birth control of those who continue to have children they can not and will not care for.

    This, also, will never happen. We are not even rearranging the deck chairs at this point.

  349. @Truth

    Didn’t think or say that you were. Nice for you.

    PRs are, however, typically substantially African genetically, including both my grandmother’s attacker from the look of him, and most PRs of my acquaintance (who are many, having grown up in NYC and North Jersey area).

    Another proud example of the enrichment brought by African genes.

    • Replies: @Truth
  350. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    There are black people here (as in many places) who are perfectly likable. You’re just not one of them.

    • Replies: @Truth
  351. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    But overpopulation — particularly overpopulation in the third world — is probably the worst problem on earth, and responsible for many of the others.

    Since European and American Medical Expertise is responsible for facilitating this overpopulation, perhaps it’s not such a good thing after all.

    • Replies: @Malla
  352. KenH says:
    @Okechukwu

    I’ve been to some of these areas and, frankly, I don’t understand why anyone would want to live there. But the natives seem perfectly contented. So knock yourself out.

    Rural areas are great if you want to get away from black and brown racial hatred, violence and dysfunction. Blacks and browns prey on whites and if you want to foolishly argue that point then look up the interracial violent crime statistics. Rural areas receive more white refugees all the time.

    Black people don’t seem to do rural too well, so your preference is no surprise.

    Seriously, do you really believe this junk? Actually, for someone like me this is hilarious. I fend for myself just fine. In fact whites come to me for help, including the dozens I employ who depend on me to feed their kids and pay their mortgage.

    Someone like you? What does that mean? Are you some kind of Nubian kang?

    My comments are called observable fact. The fact is that the vast majority of blacks depend on the government sector and affirmative action in private sector to catapult them into middle class status. This comes at white expense and its not acceptable because these are all institutions and businesses created by white people that blacks arrogantly think they are entitled to because of slavery. Take that away and black lives will get a lot harder.

    If you’re a minority owned business you’ll automatically get a certain amount of business and not have to work for it like the poor white sap of a business owner who went into debt and mortgaged his house to start his business. I’ve seen this firsthand. You might be an exception and there aren’t many.

    If you truly employ many whites then you must do so because you know they are more skilled and dependable than your own people and other racial groups. These whites also make your business the success that it apparently is, so you might want to check your arrogance and sense of self importance at the door.

    Looks like YOU better go back to the drawing board.

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  353. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    If it weren’t for white men (including some Jews and Arabs), Africans would be back in the stone age, back in Africa, and back down to about 100 million total population.

    This is to say, back exactly where they belong; and nearly everything would be right with the world. So in this sense (and this sense alone) you are indeed correct.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  354. Truth says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Nooooo, Old Sod;

    You are arguing that White Nationalism is bullshit, and that white heritage/genetics is nothing to be concerned with protecting!

    I think you should go to China and start a dating agency where the wealthy businesmen can marry Norwegian blondes, I mean, why do we need blonde hair and blue eyes to continue anyway?

  355. Truth says:
    @RadicalCenter

    I’ve been to PR three times, and Puerto Ricans DO NOT look substantially African, nor are they, Dominicans and some Cubans, yes.

    So your grandma got abused by a Puerto Rican, my condolences, but I dindu nuffin.

  356. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    Some random guy on the internet doesn’t like me?

    However will I recover from this setback?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  357. Okechukwu says:
    @KenH

    Rural areas are great if you want to get away from black and brown racial hatred, violence and dysfunction.

    You don’t seem to get out much. Plenty of hatred, violence and dysfunction in rural areas. We have to put out more fires in rural areas due to employee drunkenness, theft, drugs, violence, poor work habits, poor values, etc. than we do in the civilized, multi-racial urban areas where we also have holdings.

    Blacks and browns prey on whites and if you want to foolishly argue that point then look up the interracial violent crime statistics.

    Most hate crimes are white on black.

    Black people don’t seem to do rural too well, so your preference is no surprise.

    Ever heard of rural Africa?

    My comments are called observable fact. The fact is that the vast majority of blacks depend on the government sector and affirmative action in private sector to catapult them into middle class status.

    But when blacks tried to stand on their own feet and build their communities people like you became jealous and burned them out. So the government had to step in. You only have yourself to blame.

    This comes at white expense and its not acceptable because these are all institutions and businesses created by white people that blacks arrogantly think they are entitled to because of slavery.

    The free labor from slavery created America. Blacks are entitled to vastly more than they have received.

    Take that away and black lives will get a lot harder.

    Write your congressman. Good luck.

    If you’re a minority owned business you’ll automatically get a certain amount of business and not have to work for it like the poor white sap of a business owner who went into debt and mortgaged his house to start his business. I’ve seen this firsthand. You might be an exception and there aren’t many.

    Spoken like someone who punches a clock and knows nothing about business. Nobody gives you anything in this world. It doesn’t matter if you’re black, blue or orange. Most public and private sector programs for minorities are worthless. I certainly don’t waste my time with any of them. You think that the government gives black people money to start businesses? LOL. Get out of here.

    If you truly employ many whites then you must do so because you know they are more skilled and dependable than your own people and other racial groups.

    I don’t hire based on race. For one thing, it’s illegal. That said, my industry is white-dominated and employees tend to cycle within the industry. You see, in the real world, unlike the fake make-believe world people like you live in, whites are overwhelmingly dominant in American industry and business. In my industry particularly so. The big difference is that now someone like me with smarts and hard work isn’t going to be denied automatically based on race. That’s what you don’t get.

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @KenH
    , @Ed
  358. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Okechukwu

    Rape and outdoor defecation are actually big problems in Haiti too.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_defecation

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_in_Haiti

    But regarding India, it’s true that IT quality there is uneven. I hired someone from India for a project, when I couldn’t find someone able to do the work in the U.S. (it required access to an expensive database that the Indian had through his job). The Indian took forever getting the project finished, which he blamed on being hospitalized with cholera.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  359. utu says:
    @joef

    If you are not an idiot, which is not likely as you are a former cop (upper IQ limit), then you are arguing in a bad faith. If the former I can’t help you and if the latter you are scum. I do not argue with scum. The next thing the scum will demand equal rights for scum. Scum is to be exterminated not discussed with.

    • Replies: @joef
    , @joef
  360. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Korea which the other guy was talking about.

  361. Seriously!!!!

    Black people were slaves, at the times of slavery.
    They did plow the fields. they seed the fields. Than they waited for the crops.
    In the mean time they collected firewood for the winter, they did take care of domestic animals, and did all kind of odd jobs.
    For that they got roof over their heads. They and their families got basic necessities of life, and were fed.
    How much better are poor white people today?
    And for the mater of fact poor homeless white people today?

    Yes there were cases of extreme punishments imposed on slaves.

    But besides that I cannot see the justification of imposition on white people this gigantic guilt of injustice on white people by black people.
    committed on black people

  362. joef says:
    @utu

    Why does everyone who disagrees with you, you label as a former cop?
    And whats with all the Ad Hominem attacks, can’t you debate in a civilized manner?
    I should have known better then bother with you… your sophomoric attacks are boring.

  363. KenH says:
    @Okechukwu

    You don’t seem to get out much……than we do in the civilized, multi-racial urban areas where we also have holdings.

    Neither do you. Civilized and multiracial like Chicongo, Baltimore, Philly and other glittering metro areas beset by black violence and dysfunction?

    Plenty of hatred, violence and dysfunction in rural areas. We have to put out more fires in rural areas due to employee drunkenness, theft, drugs, violence, poor work habits, poor values, etc

    No doubt the rural areas and their residents have their problems and aren’t perfect (they’ve been hit hard by free trade, poor farm policy and lack of government concern for their plight since they have light skin pigmentation ) but violence isn’t one of them and you’ll have to be more specific so I can address your claims. Still, rural white areas aren’t wracked by crime and violence (other than petty, non-violent crime) like “civilized” major cities of which you speak and remain some of the safest places throughout America.

    Most hate crimes are white on black.

    You wouldn’t know it by the eagerness with which blacks try to move into white neighborhoods and towns and attend white schools.

    Per the FBI crime statistics, blacks commit 26% of hate crimes while only being 13% of population, so you’re overrepresented by a factor of two. Whites are 60-62% of the population yet only commit 46% of all hate crimes, but Mexicans are often lumped in with whites so the white figure is much lower in all likelihood. Black males commit over 50% of all murders. In 2012/2013 blacks committed 85% of interracial violent crimes against whites while whites only committed 15% against blacks. Interracial rape is exclusively a black on white enterprise.

    But when blacks tried to stand on their own feet and build their communities people like you became jealous and burned them out. So the government had to step in. You only have yourself to blame.

    No, that happened usually because whites were retaliating against blacks who raped white women or committed crimes against whites. There was a time when whites wouldn’t tolerate such monkey business. That’s not to say whites were always angels, but your little narrative is the usual one-sided tripe to guilt trip whitey.

    Frankly, I’d be mighty fine if blacks ever started building their own thriving communities and let us be.

    Ever heard of rural Africa?

    Most American blacks don’t do rural very well.

    The free labor from slavery created America. Blacks are entitled to vastly more than they have received.

    Black slaves didn’t build America but keep believing that if it makes you feel whole. Welfare, food stamps, medicaid, minority college scholarships, affirmative action and myriad of other programs designed to benefit you have cost us trillions. At this point we owe your people nothing but a one way ticket back to Africa for the misery they’ve brought to this nation.

    Fun fact: Blacks were slaves in Africa and treated brutally by their fellow Africans before coming to the new world and many whites were brought in chains as indentured servants.
    Fun fact #2: There were over 3000 black slaves owners in America so go find their descendants and give them a piece of your mind.

    Spoken like someone who punches a clock and knows nothing about business. Nobody gives you anything in this world. It doesn’t matter if you’re black, blue or orange.

    I don’t need to flash my credentials because I don’t have self esteem issues, nor do I need to impress anyone. But don’t try to pass yourself off as some captain of American industry.

    You think that the government gives black people money to start businesses? LOL. Get out of here.

    They don’t cut a check but they disburse money in other ways. For government contracting that exceeds a certain dollar threshold companies are expected to present a small business contracting plan that includes the use of minority owned companies and the large company is expected to utilize minority contractors wherever possible.

    The Small Business Administration has many programs aimed at minorities that are not offered to white small business owners:

    https://www.sba.gov/category/business-groups/minority-owned

    About fifteen years ago a white small business owner complained to me that a large aerospace company took 30% of his business away and gave it to a black owned business that they helped capitalize. This was done for government contracting purposes. The black owned business eventually went belly up and he got the work back . There is another example, so yeah, being black does have its advantages.

    I don’t hire based on race. For one thing, it’s illegal.

    It is, but that doesn’t stop companies from engaging anti-white hiring and promotion practices in this white privileged land of ours.

    You see, in the real world, unlike the fake make-believe world people like you live in, whites are overwhelmingly dominant in American industry and business.

    Um, no shit Sherlock. That’s also the case in the “fake” world I live in, but if I make this observation I’m a racist, white supremacist and am blinded by my white privilege which I’m still figuring out how to obtain.

    The big difference is that now someone like me with smarts and hard work isn’t going to be denied automatically based on race.

    Sure sounds like you’re flying high and that the wicked white man hasn’t been able to hold you down, try as he might.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Okechukwu
  364. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    You meant to say SOME Jews feel this way.

    What a hypocritical little piece of turd you are?

    You had posted earlier

    It would clearly appear that Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.

    We have to change it. Don’t we?

    “It would clearly appear that SOME Europeans, with their in-born nature to destroy cultures, would be responsible for the fate of African nations.”

    Now, that is more like it.

  365. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Yeah, I have personal experience with your “software engineers.” We tried to save money by outsourcing some tech functions to your beloved India. Well let me just say that after awhile we discovered that we were actually losing money by spending so much time and energy trying to instruct these Indians on how to accomplish basic things that even a 4 year old can handle. These people could not follow simple instructions. Everything had to be redone and redone and redone again. I don’t know if it’s something cultural or if bacteria from all the filth they’re surrounding by seeped into their brains and wrecked havoc on their cognitive functions. Long story short, it became clear to us that even if Indian companies are offering to do work for a tiny fraction of what everyone else charges, it just isn’t worth it to engage them. Not if you value your time and your sanity.

    The personal opinion of a stupid clown means nothing. How would a low IQ clown like you understand software? Your ancestors danced naked around shithut and mudhut with no civilisation, software is not for you.

    • Replies: @Malla
  366. Malla says:

    You’re the one that brought up Haiti

    Haiti is where all black societies will eventually end up. that is a law of nature. Haiti is a place where people have to fry mud biscuits just to be alive. As well as smoke jenkem. People who have descended from savages dancing around mudhuts, well what else can you expect?

    • Replies: @Malla
  367. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Talking about open defecation, look in the mirror, clown before blurting your nonsense.

    https://www.unicef.org/nigeria/NATIONAL_ROAD_MAP_FOR_ELIMINATING_OPEN_DEFECATION_IN_NIGERIA.pdf

    Making Nigeria Open Defecation Free by 2025: A National Road Map

    Nigeria is among the nations in the world with the highest number of people practicing open
    defecation, estimated at over 46 million people.

  368. Da Wei says:

    Mui bueno, Fred, as the hornets’ nest indicates.

    I try to keep my mouth shut, but sometimes that doesn’t work. Two writers here have, well, inspired me. If they speak from firsthand experience, it’s sure different than mine. Johnny Smoggins and Malla, here is my version of Shinola.

    Johnny, Xi Jinping did not let the basketball players go because he can’t stand up to President Trump. China didn’t want to feed those dipshits for 10 years and releasing them is the diplomatic alternative. Trump comes off looking like he cares and keeps the BLM loudmouths at bay. Our youfs get to strut home and steal stuff in LA. It was a win win win, except maybe for the store owners in LA. Now, just enough about me for credibility.

    I have lived in China continuously for 10 years and a year now here in Hong Kong, not as an expat in a corporate shell or tourist with a grub steak. I have contact with real life. Whenever I return home to California people tell me all about China. They’re MSM educated and you can’t argue with them.

    Malla, HK is not “screwed up.” It’s the most civilized place I’ve seen, orderly, clean and polite.

    I don’t know a whole lot, but here are a few ideas that work in China that might fly back in the USA.

    DUI first offense: a year in jail and no driving for 5 years; second offense: 5 years and no more driving period. Forget about the bullshit therapy rehab industry.
    Importing drugs for trafficking: 1 bullet in the head (and its BYOB: buy your own bullet). There is a 30 day period after conviction during which you can post appeal. This is harsh, but seems effective.
    Police are usually in shirt sleeves and often on bicycles. Police with guns are seen rarely.

    Education: There is a mandatory English proficiency test for high school graduation. It’s reading comprehension, not speech. Diploma is conferred only upon passage of the test.

    Kids study hard; parents encourage. They are sincere, not sarcastic, cynical or otherwise two-faced. Students believe they can and they do. Children never threaten teachers with law suits.

    Most important, there is no PC in China. Period.
    PC IN LIFE IS WORSE THAN FOUL AIR IN LUNGS.
    See, you read to the end and that’s your fortune cookie.
    No shit; only Shinola.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Malla
  369. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth

    Sweetheart, no one likes you, and you will never recover.

    • Replies: @Truth
  370. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Haiti, Nigeria, India, Ethiopia, and so on. Every one a horrifying pisshole full of people we should NOT be importing to the USA by the tens of millions. So what do we do?

  371. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Your ancestors danced naked around shithut and mudhut with no civilisation, software is not for you.

    I am sorry, I wrote that. I was very pissed at the time, but I felt bad about it later. Even if we have our differences, I do not like to make fun to other people’s culture and history in such a crass way. African cultures such as the Kikuyu, Ashanti, Ibo, Tuareg etc…. are a part of human culture and has it’s own contributions to human history in music, dance, wisdom, cuisine…etc… and all need to be studied and preserved.
    Again I am sorry.

    • Replies: @Truth
  372. Malla says:
    @Malla

    People who have descended from savages dancing around mudhuts, well what else can you expect?

    I am sorry, I wrote that. I take that back. Was very ignorant of me.

  373. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    You’re remarkably patient.

  374. Corvinus says:
    @Malla

    “:And the evil British Empire run by White destroyers of cultures as you put it, played the biggest part (after the destruction of Buddhism in India) in weakening this evil system of social coercion.”

    Absolutely…by imposing their own will upon Indians.

    “Until this can be shown as official policy, claiming that black countries performing worse than other countries is due to colonialism is nothing but making lame excuses.”

    You are historically ignorant. Official policy by European powers, as shown by the sources I provided, demonstrate the pervasiveness of their intention to strip natives of their resources and liberty. As a result, when Africans received their freedom from their European jackbooters, they had to undergo the process of developing political and economic systems by competing groups vying for power.

    “Helping others indiscriminately is a sign of stupidity.”

    Actually, there is a strong correlation between altruism and intelligence.

    https://feb.kuleuven.be/BEE/publications/altruistic-behavior-as-a-costly-signal-of-general-intelligence/

    “The Bible means nothing to me, you are wasting your time.”

    Exactly what I thought.

    “How can you be so sure these videos do not reflect the general attitudes of the local populations?”

    Confirmation bias and subjectivity.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  375. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “If it weren’t for white men (including some Jews and Arabs), Africans would be back in the stone age, back in Africa, and back down to about 100 million total population.”

    You are only speculating here. You have no idea how things would have turned out.

    “This is to say, back exactly where they belong; and nearly everything would be right with the world.”

    Except for that inborn trait of Europeans to “invade the world, invite the world”. They just couldn’t help themselves building for themselves and destroying everything else.

  376. Jay Are says:

    The reality is that color differences have zip to do with what are personal _value choices_. The differences described here are not those of _non-existing _ reified categories of color oriented racial conformity. Rather, what appears as racial characteristics are derived from politically correct unassimilated welfare supported blacks doing nothing but producing an overgrowth of black hostility, none of whom need to develop the social, educational and economic skills necessary to gain the social approval necessary to work for a living.

    This tax funded, dysfunctional lifestyle of work free, drive by fatherhood, supplemented with criminality, is encouraged for blacks by D.C. filth, buying color coded votes. And that purchase is paid for with money and opportunities earned by those they discourage from the same effortless dysfunctional tax funded lifestyle. These are whites who are demonized by today’s cabal of education/media/political bigots as “historical oppressors,” so as to deceitfully validate _unjustifiable_ black favoritism, for which all whites are expected to both support and to pay for with anti-white discrimination and income confiscation. Well, “no justice, no peace, “as is evident.

    Today’s spectacle of an assimilated white working culture who are legally and PC silenced into subservience to an unassimilated tax funded, non-working black culture of anti-white hostility is caused by _propaganda_, not color differences. All people think with their minds, not their skin cells; if color coded conformity is observable and it is, then the cause is a racist education system, a racist media and racist politicians, indoctrinating a nation with the stereotypes of hate.

  377. joef says:
    @utu

    Oh, just in case:
    You really do not have to respond to me anymore; as a matter of fact, you shouldn’t even bother reading my posts. After all I am actually talking to other adults with real life experience (that dealt with real consequences of those experiences). This is something you have great difficulty relating to (safely pontificating (trolling) from your mother’s basement in cupcake suburbia).

    I don’t read yours posts! You pretty much do the same thing all the time:

    You dogmatically pontificate, from afar, a preferred premise (that you read somewhere, or composed through your overactive imagination)…

    you don’t like a response that does not provide 100% agreement to your unsupportive conclusions…

    you refuse to answer clarifying questions, and just keep repeating yourself in more & more inpatient tones…

    and then finally you have childish outbursts, composed of your typed temper tantrums, full of personal attacks.

    Despite being intelligent, this immature monologue of yours offers nothing useful, or productive, and becomes very boring. If you are this insufferable over the keyboard, I am sure you do not have many longterm friends who are willing to tolerate you.

    So please keep your immature pathetic angry resentments to yourself. I will keep empirical experiences to myself (again you don’t have to read them, I do not bother reading yours); and if others want to read them okay, if not thats okay too.

    Lets just agree to disagree, and part ways. Good luck (hopefully you will stop being petty, and grow up one day). Thanks (you even got me started on personal attacks, and unlike you, I really don’t like to).

  378. Truth says:
    @Malla

    Well that’s nice of you.

    Okechukwu, are you going to second?

    • Replies: @Okechukwu
  379. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    Geez Mom, I told you on Thanksgiving I am doing my best.

    You ALWAYS liked Bobby more than me!

  380. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    If you “thought” you were wasting your time why did you spend it writing hundreds of words worth of hot air?

  381. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Da Wei

    Malla didn’t say HK was screwed up, he was using it as a counterpoint to Africa, or so at least I understood him.

    • Replies: @Malla
  382. @KenH

    The whites that remain in North America and Western Europe in 300 to 400 years will have racial attitudes similar to the Waffen SS and the Romanian Iron Guard.

  383. Okechukwu says:
    @KenH

    Neither do you. Civilized and multiracial like Chicongo, Baltimore, Philly and other glittering metro areas beset by black violence and dysfunction?

    You don’t know this because you’re ignorant of how business works. And, apparently, you don’t get out much. If you start a business in any of those named cities you’ll find that your workers exhibit certain “city values” that are greatly desired and wholly missing in rural America. I’m not saying that rural people are bad. They tend to have a certain simplistic and naive outlook, which can be refreshing when juxtaposed against, say, New Yorkers.

    Still, rural white areas aren’t wracked by crime and violence (other than petty, non-violent crime) like “civilized” major cities of which you speak and remain some of the safest places throughout America.

    It’s a question of population density or lack of same. Put those rurals in tight proximity of each other as exists in cities and the morgues would fill up. We see crime exploding whenever white rural areas become more urbanized.

    Per the FBI crime statistics, blacks commit 26% of hate crimes while only being 13% of population,

    Per those same statistics blacks are 55% of hate crime victims while only being 13% of the population.

    In 2012/2013 blacks committed 85% of interracial violent crimes against whites while whites only committed 15% against blacks. Interracial rape is exclusively a black on white enterprise.

    Oh, he pulls out the fraudulent statistics. How cute.

    No, that happened usually because whites were retaliating against blacks who raped white women or committed crimes against whites.

    You’re almost too mired in your idiotic ideology to converse with. Let’s hope you’re just mouthing talking points and that you aren’t really this delusional.

    Frankly, I’d be mighty fine if blacks ever started building their own thriving communities and let us be.

    You and I both know that you wish no such thing. White supremacists tend to be low self-esteem losers. They thrive on “black dysfunction” real, imagined or longingly hoped for. If no actual dysfunction exists, they’ll fabricate it. If blacks are smart, educated, successful, they’ll deny it.

    Most American blacks don’t do rural very well.

    Ever heard of rural Alabama or rural Mississippi?

    Black slaves didn’t build America but keep believing that if it makes you feel whole.

    It’s an established, incontrovertible fact that slavery built America.

    Google the following:

    How Slavery Built America

    America, The House That Slavery Built

    How Slaves Built American Capitablism

    How Slavery Built America Into An Economic Power

    America’s Economy Was Built on Slavery, Not White Ingenuity

    Etc, Etc, Etc.

    Blacks were slaves in Africa and treated brutally by their fellow Africans before coming to the new world

    Were you there as a time traveler or are you relying on primary sources? Whatever it was, let’s have the evidence that supports this statement.

    Fun fact #2: There were over 3000 black slaves owners in America so go find their descendants and give them a piece of your mind.

    Here’s another fun fact, you’re making shit up. There were no black slave owners. The entire ideological framework that made slavery palatable would collapse if there were black slave owners. There were some blacks that owned indentured servants, which was not slavery. But indentured servitude was abolished in favor of African slavery.

    For government contracting that exceeds a certain dollar threshold companies are expected to present a small business contracting plan that includes the use of minority owned companies and the large company is expected to utilize minority contractors wherever possible.

    I never said programs don’t exist, I said they were worthless. Large companies do alot more self-diversifying than they do as a result of government mandates. Makes sense since all their clients and customers aren’t white. So why should all their employees, managers and contractors be white? How does it serve society as a whole (societies which these companies have to live and operate in) if there are policies in place to keep everything white? If people get fed-up and burn the city down, their headquarters might be caught in the conflagration. So it makes sense on multiple levels for companies to at least try to reflect the ethnic make-up of their communities. Something that wasn’t the case prior to the civil rights movement due to people like you.

    The Small Business Administration has many programs aimed at minorities that are not offered to white small business owners:

    The SBA is so useless that there’s talk of shutting it down.

    About fifteen years ago a white small business owner complained to me that a large aerospace company took 30% of his business away and gave it to a black owned business that they helped capitalize. This was done for government contracting purposes. The black owned business eventually went belly up and he got the work back . There is another example, so yeah, being black does have its advantages.

    Not believable.

    It is, but that doesn’t stop companies from engaging anti-white hiring and promotion practices in this white privileged land of ours.

    Companies are trying to reflect the ethnic diversity in their communities. Moreover, generally it’s good to acquire talent with the widest net possible. This country has been harmed immeasurably, and is still being harmed, by white good ol boy networks, unearned privilege and institutional discrimination that placed dumb, lazy and unqualified whites in position over smarter, more capable blacks and other minorities.

    Um, no shit Sherlock. That’s also the case in the “fake” world I live in, but if I make this observation I’m a racist, white supremacist and am blinded by my white privilege which I’m still figuring out how to obtain.

    Being white gives you a tremendous advantage. Don’t blame me if you can’t take advantage of your advantage. I don’t mean just in America either. You have a tremendous advantage worldwide. A friend of mine from the Middle East takes a white guy with him whenever he goes back there for business meetings. The white guy just sits there and says nothing, but earns a small commission. Why, you may ask? Because there’s white privilege even in the Middle East. I do the same for my transactions over there. When Middle Easterners come here to see me or when I go to see them, I always have white male employees present and prominent. I even describe them as partners, which they’re not.

    Sure sounds like you’re flying high and that the wicked white man hasn’t been able to hold you down, try as he might.

    I never said white people are wicked. I’ve known and continue to know some excellent white people. The only way to hold someone like me down would be in a completely uneven playing field, which thankfully doesn’t exist anymore. The field is becoming more and more even with the passage of time.

    • Replies: @joef
    , @Authenticjazzman
    , @Ed
  384. Okechukwu says:
    @Truth

    Well that’s nice of you.

    Okechukwu, are you going to second?

    Sure. But I reserve the right to retract subject to his behavior going forward. :)

    • Replies: @Malla
  385. Quite simply, the entire article can be shaved down to this passage:

    “It is one that dare not raise its head: that blacks cannot compete with whites, Asians, or Latin-Americans. Is there counter-evidence? This leaves them in an incurable state of resentment and thus hostility. I think we all know this: Blacks know it, whites know it, liberals know it, and conservatives know it. If any doubt this, the truth would be easy enough to determine with carefully done tests. The furious resistance to the very idea of measuring intelligence suggests awareness of the likely outcome. You don’t avoid a test if you expect good results.”

  386. joef says:
    @Okechukwu

    It’s an established, incontrovertible fact that slavery built America.

    Google the following:

    How Slavery Built America

    America, The House That Slavery Built

    How Slaves Built American Capitablism

    How Slavery Built America Into An Economic Power

    America’s Economy Was Built on Slavery, Not White Ingenuity

    Etc, Etc, Etc.

    This is the problem with your side of the argument… there is no denial that there were Blacks who made accomplishments that benefited society, but Afro American history does not focus on that alone. Instead there is a huge amount of exaggeration, and false feel good propaganda (unsupported by evidence) that your side constantly advances as true. Non Blacks know all of it is not true, and because we start to suspect that some of the story is fake, we become incredulous to the rest. This is because it is too labor intensive to separate the fact, from exaggerated claims, from total fiction.

    The same goes for affirmative action for certain professions, such as Medical Doctors. There are Blacks who are very deserving of their medical credentials. And there are some Afro Americans who were passed through medical school strictly based on their skin color alone, not their actual ability & accomplishments. Some are way below of level of competency to even practice medicine. The problem is who is who, which causes Non Blacks to doubt Black doctors, in which the affirmative action quota system actually unfairly hurts the reputation of Black doctors who actually earned their credentials.

    • Replies: @Truth
  387. Gene Su says:
    @Iberiano

    I don’t think I’m naïve. If you work in a white collar profession such as a lawyer, musician, doctor, or stockbroker, you might never come in contact with the black thug class. If you go to only the correct train station or parking lot, you won’t see the homeless derelicts. If you avoid the slums (which might only be a few miles from your workplace), you won’t see what the cops see. As long as you go home before, say, 9PM at night, you won’t deal with the crazies who come out during the middle of the night.

    Your experiences will be even more restrictive if you are a kid. Would you allow your kid to come home at midnight? From a romp in the inner city? Of course not. Most American children don’t deal with “black teens.” This is why they are so easily taken in by the lies spread by Black Lives Matter.

  388. Gene Su says:
    @Alden

    I never said I lived in the inner city. I grew up in a lily white suburb. Although it was reasonably safe, I did have to deal with a lot of a-holes.

  389. Truth says:
    @joef

    And there are some Afro Americans who were passed through medical school strictly based on their skin color alone, not their actual ability & accomplishments. Some are way below of level of competency to even practice medicine.

    Doctors take note one, but several exams to receive state certification, Big Chief. It’s called the medical bar. The final exam, if I remember correctly, is 4 days and 16 hours. Kind of hard to cram for that. Unless of course there is some super-secret hush-hush CIA program you are aware of that helps black pass the medical bar?

    Or maybe you have some insider info that black and whites in the same room take different bar exams?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @joef
  390. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    Absolutely…by imposing their own will upon Indians.

    I guess the police prevent crime by imposing their will upon criminals.

    Actually, there is a strong correlation between altruism and intelligence.

    https://feb.kuleuven.be/BEE/publications/altruistic-behavior-as-a-costly-signal-of-general-intelligence/

    I already knew that but the keyword was ” indiscriminately “.

    You are historically ignorant. Official policy by European powers, as shown by the sources I provided, demonstrate the pervasiveness of their intention to strip natives of their resources and liberty. As a result, when Africans received their freedom from their European jackbooters, they had to undergo the process of developing political and economic systems by competing groups vying for power.

    You are being stupid as usual. I was asking sources which say African colonies were treated differently than non African colonies. You were not able to provide that and as usual jumping around the topic.

  391. Malla says:
    @Okechukwu

    Buddy, we will still have our differences. I still believe in races realism and the right of Whites to have their own land and all that.
    It is just that I know as a fact that traditional African cultures deserve respect for their various aspects (cuisines, mythology, stories etc…) just like all traditional cultures of the world. I do criticize cultures but (hopefully) not in the crass and ignorant way I did in those posts.

  392. Malla says:
    @Corvinus

    Confirmation bias and subjectivity.

    Likewise yourself.

  393. Malla says:
    @Da Wei

    Malla, HK is not “screwed up.” It’s the most civilized place I’ve seen, orderly, clean and polite.

    Of course HongKong is an awesome place. I have been there. Do not take that literally. I posted that is a sarcastic way as Corvinus was writing something rubbish as usual.

  394. Malla says:
    @Anonymous

    Very true. There was this guy in India, Vinoba Bhave. He was a real Gandhian, more Gandhian than Gandhi. A very intelligent guy, he was from a rich family but gave everything away and walked the whole land of India distributing land from rich landowners to poor farmers but in such a way that the landlord does not suffer much. It was officially called the ‘Bhhodaan Movement’ . Bhoodaan literally means giving away land in charity. He lived a very simple life.

    Well he was asked what bad the British did in India by a Western press correspondent.
    Unlike others who spew Marxist nonsense such as looting the Third World and all that, he simply replied
    They did two things which were detrimental to India
    1] They stopped wars between Indians Kingdoms
    2] They introduced modern medicine to India

    And due to both, our population has increases exponentially and with that so has out poverty and other problems.

  395. @Okechukwu

    ” Being white give you a tremendous advantage”

    Yeah sure which means that the white homeless folks are able to reside within an elegant tin boxes while the black homeless are doomed to languishing away within a pityful cardboard abode.

    ” Don’t blame me if you can’t take advantage of your advantage”

    Okay so an impoverished homeless white person can simply walk into any bank and demand that his backpack be filled with portions of his ” white advantage” in denominations of fifties and hundreds.

    Look friend, I am jazz perfomer, and I have played in umpteen bands with black musicians. I shared an apartment for twelve years with a (black) fellow musician a drummer, and I was raised, in Detroit, by an angelic black lady, a housekeeper, and family friend/member who shaped my future as much as my parents, so as far as the black experience is concerned, you cannot BS myself such as you are trying to do to the others on this forum.

    “I never said white people are wicked”, but you think this, period.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualifed since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz artist.

    • Replies: @Truth
  396. Thorby says:

    Maybe this will shed some light on this subject.

    http://www.rense.com/general96/IQreason.html

    IQ by race:

    • East Asians = 106
    • Whites = 102
    • Inuits and Eskimos = 91
    • South-East Asians = 87
    • American Indians = 87
    • Non-White Hispanics = 86
    • Koko (a western lowland gorilla) = 85
    • American Blacks = 85 (average 24% White admixture)
    • Middle East and North Africans = 84
    • African Blacks = 67 (only 2% of Whites score this low)
    • Australian Aborigines = 62
    • Kalahari Bushman = 54
    • Congo Pygmies = 54

  397. Truth says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    Okay so an impoverished homeless white person can simply walk into any bank and demand that his backpack be filled with portions of his ” white advantage” in denominations of fifties and hundreds.

    Of course not. The banks and US Industry in general are owned by Khazars and a few hundred thousand of their WASP ass-kissers. You and the other 199 million whites are just a higher class of nigger.

    That’s why whenever you tell them what you want, they say “fuck you, what are you going to do about it.?”

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    , @Jim
  398. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    MLK was deeply influenced by Gandhi and used Satyagraha like techniques and without MLK there would have been no civil rights as the legend goes. it was an Indian, a racist Indian at that who was eventually responsible for blacks getting civil rights. All blacks in the USA should remember this and respect Indians.

    Actually it is Indians who should thank Martin Luther King and African-Americans. Without their successful struggle there would be hardly any Indian-Americans, for Indians would still be barred from entering America, being non-white. India, which already has a lower per capita income than Africa, would be even poorer without the billions in remittances from H1-B code coolies such as yourself.

    It is also shamelessly dishonest of you to give Hinduism the credit for the non-violent resistance of the Civil Rights Movement. Your vicious casteist religion has no concept of non-violent resistance, egalitarianism or universal human rights. For someone who seems to be well read you must know that Gandhi’s inspiration was not the Manu Smriti which you advocate to white racists but Tolstoy the Russian novelist who was inspired by the Gospel of Jesus.

  399. Bliss says:
    @Malla

    There is still hope. Not all is over.

    Mind you, this is a black or brown assed Hindu posting those videos of blonde children.

  400. @Truth

    You have not comprehended my statement in the least , which is so very fundamental and simple that even you should be able to grasp it.

    The point is that no matter who the PTB are, Santa Claus, Hebrews, Baptists, NRA, no matter who they the PTB are, impoverished, disenfranchised white folks have no more sway that do impoverished blacks.

    The same white guy who walks into a bank and demands that because of his whiteness they should fill his backpack with fifties and hundreds, this same guy will leave the bank in handcuffs such as a black guy would, period.

    If there is such a thing as racial “Advantage” well it has changed sides as anyone who has visited a gov agency has noticed when viewing the numerically overwhelming ethnic background of gov employees.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army vet, and pro jazz artist.

    • Replies: @Truth
  401. Truth says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    That’s just it, My Friend. We are all slaves, but one of us is a house-nigger and serving food and polishing silverware inside, and the other is a field nigger and picking cotton in the Mississippi sun for 12 hours in July

    Ultimately we are both slaves without any real power. However, that does not mean that the opportunities, the treatment and the ancillary benefits are totally different.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  402. Jim says:
    @Truth

    The idea of a connection between Khazars and Ashkenazi Jews has been completely demolished by the actual genetic evidence.

    • Replies: @Truth
  403. @Truth

    Look your negative, cynical attitude really rubs me the wrong way, so let’s just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

    AJM.

  404. Truth says:
    @Jim

    Who’s genetic evidence?

    Oh yeah, Khazar scientists, who gave you the world careening through the so-called universe at 27,000 mph, that’s who!

  405. joef says:
    @Truth

    Unless of course there is some super-secret hush-hush CIA program you are aware of that helps black pass the medical bar?

    Or maybe you have some insider info that black and whites in the same room take different bar exams?

    Not so secret AFFIRMATIVE ACTION QUOTAS that benefit unqualified afros, in much greater degree than any other group of people. These unearned accomplishments hurt other Blacks who actually did earn their way, by damaging their reputation with the doubt of others. Afros receive frequent preferential treatment in certification exams (and special training that teaches to the test). Stop pretending you don’t know this.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Talha
  406. Truth says:
    @joef

    Dude, that may be, but the point is, if you are a A-A Doctor who should not have gotten into medical school, you ain’t gonna pass the bar, same with a lawyer, same with a civil engineer. So what are you worried about?

    UNLESS you have some super-secret info. that these people are getting help on passing their bar exams too?

    You know like they allow the black dudes to take bathroom breaks during the exam and there is some Jew in the bathroom standing on the throne so the white people can’t see his feet, with an “out of order” sign on the door, supplying the answers…

  407. Talha says:
    @joef

    Hey joef,

    I’ve heard of affirmative action (not a big fan of it), that’s obvious, but this:

    Afros receive frequent preferential treatment in certification exams (and special training that teaches to the test). Stop pretending you don’t know this.

    I certainly have never heard about this. Do you have proof for this? That would be a massive indictment on the medical boards since this is not giving some guy a simple bump so he can get a PhD in Afro-American studies, this is dealing with people’s lives.

    I know plenty of doctors – if I get a chance, I’ll ask them if they have heard or witnessed this going on in med-school.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @joef
  408. joef says:
    @Talha

    Must admit, mostly anecdotal info from some of the docs, nurses, and ems, I have known, but all relayed a common theme: that any incompetency displayed among afro american doctors was generally overlooked, and tolerated, in order to keep up politically correct appearances. This hurts any Black doctor who actually earned their way to being a medical doctor (but if he complains, he would probably be labeled an uncle tom).

    I remember once I was with a friend who was being treated at a city emergency room. The attending physician was a young attractive Black female doctor. She appeared to me to be very competent (and friendly), but she overemphasized her medical explanations. In retrospect, I believe she felt she had to do this in order to prove that she in fact earned her credentials, and they were not given to her. And this affirmative action quotas caused this obviously competent doctor to feel she must prove herself, in order to relieve doubts in others. How is the affirmative action quota system benefiting her (short answer, its not, its actually hurting her).

    Now I may not be 100% correct on this (but I firmly believe that I am, otherwise I wouldn’t say it), but the problem with Truth is that his solution is to completely ignore any afro dysfunction, claiming it does not exist. He believes any stated criticism of afro americans is because one is a hater, or simply wants to be provocative. What he does not understand is that he can readily convince other afros, and pandering liberal Whites, of this; but he cannot change the negative experiences of numerous other Non blacks.

    He frequently ignores afro american crime and its impacts upon other Non black city neighborhoods. He dismisses any Non black need to defend their own neighborhood from afro thuggery. He probably sees it as merely racist, but I wonder if he looks upon it the same way when my friends, and I, prevented 3 afro thugs from robbing an elderly Black lady (yeah, the afro thugs even prey upon their own people, but this time one Black was saved by the White boys)… no Truth would rather pretend it didn’t happen, like every other afro dysfunction that brings his own people, and the rest of us with it, down.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Talha
  409. KenH says:
    @Okechukwu

    You don’t know this because you’re ignorant of how business works. And, apparently, you don’t get out much

    You keep repeating yourself. No doubt your experiences are different than mine, but I worked at a large corporation that had plants in mostly white, semi-rural areas and “civilized” multiracial metropolitan areas. The plants in semi-rural, white areas always had the highest output and fewest quality problems. You watch too much (((TV))) and (((Hollywood movies))) and think most white people in rural areas are meth and opioid addicted losers with a poor work ethic.

    I did have an acquaintance who worked at a plant located in a “civilized”, multiracial utopia of which you speak and the company started letting them carry concealed weapons (concealed carry state) from the parking area into the building since the local black and brown denizens were so civilized that they would routinely attempt to break into the cars and rob the employees on the third shift.

    Put those rurals in tight proximity of each other as exists in cities and the morgues would fill up.

    Not exactly. That’s just your feverish imagination at work.

    We see crime exploding whenever white rural areas become more urbanized.

    Any examples of this? If white rural areas are invaded by blacks and mestizos then yes, they get much more violent, but not if the incomers are whites. Kind of like the small, white Iowa town that had one murder in 47 years then when illegal alien Mexicans invaded in the mid 90′s they averaged five murders annually. Or the small white towns that see an influx of section 8 blacks.

    Per those same statistics blacks are 55% of hate crime victims while only being 13% of the population.

    More like 50% per the 2016 stats and don’t forget all the anti-black hate crime hoaxes perpetrated by blacks themselves. Go spray the N word on your garage and suddenly you too are a victim of a hate crime. Or call the police and tell them two mythical white guys walked by your house and shouted anti-black obscenities.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/11/08/a-black-student-wrote-those-racist-messages-that-shook-the-air-force-academy/?utm_term=.257bac8240cc

    Oh, he pulls out the fraudulent statistics. How cute.

    Go about 3/4 of the way down for the chart based on DOJ crime statistics. An explanation is above the chart. Read it and weep.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420565/charleston-shooting-obama-race-crime

    I notice how you didn’t dispute that over 50% of murders are committed by black males.

    You’re almost too mired in your idiotic ideology to converse with. Let’s hope you’re just mouthing talking points and that you aren’t really this delusional.

    Could easily say the same about you. You think blacks were always the innocent victims who never did anything wrong. Whites are always the villains in your mind.

    You and I both know that you wish no such thing. White supremacists tend to be low self-esteem losers.

    Wow! You can read minds. Don’t quit your day job just yet. Black supremacists are manly men with the courage of lions. Like the NOI savages who targeted elderly white people, white children and frail white men when they launched their murder spree known as “the Zebra killings” in California. Or the negro supremo who slashed the throat of 8yr old Kevin Shifflet. Very brave and tough men, these negro supremacists.

    Ever heard of rural Alabama or rural Mississippi?

    Sure, but have you ever heard of the word most? The vast majority of American blacks are concentrated in urban areas.

    It’s an established, incontrovertible fact that slavery built America.

    Maybe to you, the NAACP, BLM, the NOI and loony white leftists, but not to an objective minded person. A big reason the South lost the civil war was because most of the nation’s industrial capacity was located North of the Mason-Dixon line where slave labor was not utilized. Are you honestly claiming that black slaves of the South built Northern industry?

    Were you there as a time traveler or are you relying on primary sources? Whatever it was, let’s have the evidence that supports this statement.

    There’s plenty of evidence if you aren’t afraid to look. Here’s just two sources:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade

    Liberia, founded by freed U.S. black slaves, is awash in slavery and human trafficking:

    http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Liberia.htm

    Here’s another fun fact, you’re making shit up. There were no black slave owners.

    You’re a just a fun fact denier:

    https://www.amazon.com/Black-Slaveowners-Masters-Carolina-1790-1860/dp/0786469315/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1513123148&sr=8-1&keywords=black+slave+owners

    https://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States#Black_slaveholders (NOTE: Look for “Black Slaveholders”)

    You pretty much lost all credibility with your claim that no free blacks owned black slaves.

    About 300K wicked whites were also brought to America in chains:

    https://www.amazon.com/White-Cargo-Forgotten-History-Britains/dp/0814742963/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1513123148&sr=8-2&keywords=black+slave+owners

    I never said programs don’t exist, I said they were worthless.

    Maybe, but special programs don’t exist for whites, so this is still black skin privilege.

    So it makes sense on multiple levels for companies to at least try to reflect the ethnic make-up of their communities.

    Ok, then are you fine with busting up the NFL and NBA since their demography doesn’t look like America (65% and 85% black, respectively)? They should be at least 60% white. It’s time for affirmative action and white quotas in the NFL and NBA. But black supremacist bigots like you are standing in the way of progress. Black privilege in pro sports must end.

    The SBA is so useless that there’s talk of shutting it down.

    Hadn’t heard that but since there’s a fair number of blacks and other minoritie working there it probably won’t happen.

    Not believable.

    True story of black skin privilege. And like I said there’s even another one very similar one and those can’t be the only two across the country.

    Companies are trying to reflect the ethnic diversity in their communities.

    By rank discrimination against whites. Large companies are guilty of institutional discrimination against whites which is ok to radicals like you to “even the score”.

    Moreover, generally it’s good to acquire talent with the widest net possible.

    That’s pure fantasy that a diverse workforce leads to higher innovation, cohesion and productivity. No evidence to support that claim and I’ve seen it damage workplace morale and productivity.

    This country has been harmed immeasurably, and is still being harmed, by white good ol boy networks, unearned privilege and institutional discrimination that placed dumb, lazy and unqualified whites in position over smarter, more capable blacks and other minorities.

    You mean those “good ole boy” networks that created American industry? And the antidote is affirmative action quotas and set sides that favor dumb, lazy and unqualified blacks and other minorities over eminently more qualified whites. Blacks and Latinos are so well qualified that this nation has to keep dumbing down educational standards and testing and admission requirements so they can get admitted and pushed through school.

    But to be fair, I have seen some cases where a white business owner works hard and builds a successful company from scratch only to have junior screw everything up because he had everything handed to him on a silver platter. The business goes nearly bankrupt or gets bought out. However, junior can’t claim he’s a victim of racism or institutional discrimination like blacks often do.

    I never said white people are wicked.

    You came pretty close based on some of your statements.

    You have a tremendous advantage worldwide. A friend of mine from the Middle East takes a white guy with him whenever he goes…..

    Right, it’s called brains. The rest of your story makes so sense.

    The only way to hold someone like me down would be in a completely uneven playing field, which thankfully doesn’t exist anymore.

    Blacks who have a willingness to succeed can in this fever swamp of white privilege called America. But you’re contradicting yourself because you’ve referred to white privilege several times as if it’s self evidently true. And you’ll need to break the word to BLM and other black malcontents who are raised from birth to blame their own low intelligence, lack of talent and character deficiencies on white people and white society.

  410. Ed says:
    @Okechukwu

    You appear to be Nigerian. Nigerians do very well in the USA, not so well in Nigeria though.

    Which kind of gets to his point when blacks reach a critical mass or density in an area collectively they yield fairly negative conditions. This appears to have been proven throughout the world.

    Of course intelligent blacks living in a mostly white system tend to do quite well. The concern for many on this board and frankly should be your concern too is that this system will no longer be white.

  411. Ed says:
    @Okechukwu

    For sure white poverty comes with these ills you mention but it’s no where near as violent as black poverty.

  412. Ed says:
    @Okechukwu

    If slave labor “built” the USA, why isn’t Brazil or any of the other countries which received more black slaves rivaling America for wealth & power?

    Seems to me a lot more than slavery is the secret to the USA’s success. Also while slave labor was “free” in that they weren’t paid wages. They still had to fed, clothed, housed, watched, managed etc. This required considerable capital outlays and maintenance, which is why slave ownership was not widespread with only a few the 1% to speak owning the bulk of them. It’s well known among historians that slaves received better medical care than poor whites in the USA. Some have even suggested better than most in Western Europe.

    There were slave songs that picked up on this and mentioned that while they maybe slaves they were thankful not to be “poor white trash”.

    • Agree: SMK
    • Replies: @SMK
  413. @silviosilver

    Absolutely not. The state should not have the power to mandate either integration or segregation.

  414. SMK says: • Website
    @daniel le mouche

    I wish the greedy white males who brought Negro slaves to the “new world” could be brought back to life as 20-year-olds and sentenced to spend the rest of their lives in Detroit or Haiti.

    • Replies: @Truth
  415. Truth says:
    @joef

    I remember once I was with a friend who was being treated at a city emergency room. The attending physician was a young attractive Black female doctor.

    Did you smash?

    my friends, and I, prevented 3 afro thugs from robbing an elderly Black lady (yeah, the afro thugs even prey upon their own people, but this time one Black was saved by the White boys)… no Truth would rather pretend it didn’t happen,

    Thanks Joe. On behalf of vulnerable old black ladies everywhere I commend you. But you have to understand we have been trying to prevent your people from tearing each other to smithereens for many millennia now.

  416. Truth says:
    @SMK

    I wish the greedy white males who brought Negro slaves to the “new world” could be brought back to life as 20-year-olds and sentenced to spend the rest of their lives in Detroit or Haiti.

    Hey, they probably wouldn’t mind getting out of hell for 60 years. Learning to like rap music, and arguing with bus drivers is probably preferable to getting a hot pitchfork shoved up your ass 24 hours a day.

  417. Talha says:
    @joef

    Hey joef,

    I’ll ask the doctors I know if they noticed anything similar when I get a chance.

    The reason I ask is because my second son’s life is indebted to the quick thinking and skills of the OBGYN that delivered him, who was also a relatively young and attractive Black female doctor. He was a huge baby (over 10 pounds) and his umbilical cord was being clamped between him and the canal – he was turning purple and his wide shoulders weren’t giving. It was a scary moment, but she was able to navigate the situation to a happy conclusion. I wouldn’t have wanted anyone else in her place; she was calm, collected and on point.

    Again I am not a fan of affirmative action any more than I am for nepotism since I am for meritocracy.

    I am going to let Truth defend himself, but in partial defense – I can tell you it gets really grating sometimes reading the comments at how stupid they get regarding non-Whites at times. I can understand why he sometimes pushes back. I’m not talking about you; you seem to have a Christian-but-realist view of things and you recognize the difference between various sorts of Black people. That’s good – I can’t knock that; I’ve met some Black people in my life who are absolutely exceptional human beings that I want my own children to learn from their character and wisdom and I’ve met some that are just straight up – what’s the best word? Lupe Fiasco said it nicely in the “The Show Goes On”:
    One in the air for the people that ain’t here
    Two in the air for the father that’s there
    Three in the air for the kids in the ghetto
    Four for the kids who don’t wanna be there
    None for the niggas trying to hold them back
    Five in the air for the teacher not scared
    To tell those kids thats living in the ghetto
    That the niggas holdin’ back that the World is theirs!

    For me – if my people are being stupid, I’ll call it out – one should be loyal to the truth above else:
    “O you who believe – stand out firmly for justice! As witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you swerve, and if you distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do.”

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Truth
  418. Truth says:
    @Talha

    Talha, I don’t think much of affirmative-action. I think that it is a program for a time that is passed, and we should move on from it. But the goofs here just don’t seem to realize that AFFIRMATIVE action was created as a counterweight to NEGATIVE action.*

    Basically: “When I go to the store and pay sales tax or pay property tax or income tax, I am supporting institutions that I legally CANNOT USE.” In other words; “I am forced to pay for your sewer service, your trash pickup and your fire protection, but I cannot work in your building, or utilize your facilities.”

    That was the whole point to affirmative-action to begin with; a makeup to decades of Taxation without Representation (which is why there is a United States in the first place).

    It has nothing to do with anyone getting a job.

    The problem with A-A is that there was not a time frame or an exit strategy, and still isn’t.

    *this is about half of it. The other half is way to involved and complicated to go into.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Talha
  419. SMK says: • Website
    @Ed

    Yes, generally, Negro slaves were treated better in some ways than white factory workers in Northern cities during the “industrial revolution.” The reason, ironically and paradoxically, is because they were property and thus more valuable to their owners as opposed to white factory workers who could be immediately replaced if they died or were seriously injured on the job at no cost to the factory owners who systemically abused and exploited them.

  420. Talha says:
    @Truth

    I think that it is a program for a time that is passed, and we should move on from it.

    Agree.

    AFFIRMATIVE action was created as a counterweight to NEGATIVE action.

    Agree.

    The problem with A-A is that there was not a time frame or an exit strategy, and still isn’t.

    Agree.

    All excellent points.

    Peace.

  421. Talha says:
    @Truth

    The problem with A-A is that there was not a time frame or an exit strategy, and still isn’t.

    By the way, this can be said about practically every government program that gets started; the problem is systemic.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Truth
  422. Truth says:
    @Talha

    You absolutely right. Someone in the district gets a few jobs or a few contracts from a policy and then it is ingrained forever.

    • Replies: @Talha
  423. Talha says:
    @Truth

    The recipe is baked in the cake – all bureacratic systems suffer from the same affliction.

    For example, as long as we have the Dept. of Homeland Security, there will be terrorism – guranteed. Too many jobs and budgets at stake; who the hell is going to report to Congress – “Yeah folks, there haven’t been enough threats to justify our budget, we suggest you cut our department in half.”

    Peace.

  424. My family is multiracial. I’m white. Euro. Extremely educated.
    I moved to the US 20 years ago without a racist gene in me.
    Blacks thugs have attacked me, some have destroyed our building facade (Manhattan) from rage.
    The mere presence of american blacks around me now triggers feelings of insecurity. I even avoid any contact in mass transportation.
    They are violent , irrational, racists, illiterate (for the vast majority of them), underachievers, malevolent, etc….
    I removed my child from public school when I realized the risk of contagion.
    I disagree with the article saying that race relations are terrible. European-americans (the whites) and asian-americans get along beautifully, as well as most latinos (the educated class of which identifies as euro).
    African americans have ceased to generate any kind of sympathy from me.

  425. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    Originally, Professor Martin made this claim —> “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent. So according to an analysis of the 1830 census by Jewish historians, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.”

    There are several problems here.

    Professor Martin did not make a claim. He was simply referring to Jewish sources that made this claim, namely Prof. Rosenwaike’s The Edge of Greatness(p. 66):

    Soltow estimates that 36 percent of the 625,000 [white] families in the South in 1830 were slaveholders. Of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion – 75 percent – were owners of one or more slaves.

    The substance of this quote is pretty clear:

    1. Prof Soltow, by analyzing the 1830 census, concludes that 36% of white households were slaveholders.

    2. Prof Rosenwaike, by conducting a study on the number of Jewish households that were slaveholders for the same time period and the same states, concludes that 75% were slaveholders.

    3. On the bases of these two statistics, Prof. Rosenwaike concludes that, on a proportional basis, twice as many Jews were likely to be slaveholders as compared to whites.

    Since Prof. Martin clearly made accurate references to these Jewish sources, you owe him an apology for casting aspersions on his character.

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  426. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    It is not a matter of Martin citing Jewish sources in his book, but how he interprets the findings from those sources.

    Winthrop Jordan takes down this claim brick by brick.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1995/09/slavery-and-the-jews/376462

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  427. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    Winthrop Jordan takes down this claim brick by brick.

    You must be referring to the paragraph in which he begins dismantling the Jewish-sourced statistics that 76% of Jewish households were slaveholders compared to 36% of white households, by admitting to the accuracy of the statistic:

    The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of….

    In other words, rather than disputing the accuracy of the statistics, he tries to rationalize them. Notice the difference?

    If you want to refute these two statistics:

    1. 75% of Jewish households were slaveholders
    2. 36% of white households were slaveholders

    you or good old Winthrop need to point out were Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike went wrong in their demographic analysis. Thus far, neither of you have come anywhere close to doing so.

    Again, I think you owe Prof. Martin an apology for besmirching his good name.

  428. Corvinus says:

    “You must be referring to the paragraph in which he begins dismantling the Jewish-sourced statistics that 76% of Jewish households were slaveholders compared to 36% of white households, by admitting to the accuracy of the statistic…”

    Jordan did NOT recognize that exact 76% statistic as being legitimate. Here is the context–> The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion. It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.

    “you or good old Winthrop need to point out were Profs. Soltow and Rosenwaike went wrong in their demographic analysis.”

    Again, context matters. Out of 322 Jewish households in urban areas in the South, 75 percent (or 242 households) owned one or more slave. Martin made it appear in his book that this percentage is indicative of the entire United States. So the issue is how that statistic was generated and portrayed. And in our previous conversation you had stated it was a “relatively trivial thing to challenge a particular statistic ( i.e., 70%), as there are a number of assumptions upon which this statistic is based that are easily assailable”.

    So one must provide a comparison to other ethnic household groups compared to Jews as far as how many households owned slaves. Stated another way, what is the ethnic breakdown of those Americans who owned slaves from 1820-1860? Would it not be fair to say that, for example, if the Scots-Irish consisted of the largest slave-holding ethnic group, that one could reasonable argue the Scots-Irish was more of a menace to blacks compared to Jews?

    So one must also account for differences in demographics. For example, poorer families were less likely to own slaves than wealthier families.

    Remember, Rosenwaike stated that “probably close to two-fifths of the Jewish families of 1820 owned slaves…” You do realize that three-fifths of NON-JEWISH families owned slaves, right? So what was the ethnic breakdown here? Could not purchasing slaves a sign of one’s ethnic display of superiority or because of the family’s wealth, or both?

    Remember, Professor Bertram Korn stated that ”Another statistical indication of Jewish ownership of slaves, probably more accurate in terms of proportions than the census returns, are references to slaves in Jewish wills. Over the years, Professor Jacob R. Marcus has assembled at the American Jewish Archives, one hundred and twenty-nine wills of identifiable Southern Jews who died during the period of interest.

    Of these, 33 refer to the ownership and disposition of slaves. [That would mean 96 did NOT own slaves].

    This would mean, if it is a reliable index, that perhaps one-fourth of Southern Jewish adults were slave owners. [That would mean three-fourths of Southern Jewish adults were NOT slave owners].

    It is instructive that this matches the federal figures for the 1860 census, namely, that three-fourths of the white population of the South were not slave owners. Equally important, however, is the fact that only one-seventh of Southern Negroes were domiciled in towns and cities.”

    So one must also consider the total number of Jews living in the South. Junius Rodriguez (The Historical Encyclopedia of World Slavery, Volume 1, ABC-CLIO, 1997) referenced “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves – about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South…For those Jews who did own slaves, the records demonstrate that they were not significantly different from other masters in their treatments of their bondsmen.”

    Some Jews downplay their role in the slave trade, and some non-Jews overstate their role in the slave trade. The Secret Relationship offered evidence that Jews played a role in the slave trade and slave ownership. Significant? Widespread? That depends on one’s point of view.

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