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Colombia’s Zuniga breaking the back of Brazil’s star Neymar Jr.

From the New York Times:

Neymar’s Injury Sidelines Effort to End World Cup Racism
By SIMON ROMERO JULY 7, 2014

RIO DE JANEIRO — After an episode in Peru earlier this year in which Peruvian soccer fans subjected a Brazilian player to racial abuse by imitating the sounds of monkeys, President Dilma Rousseff of Brazil swiftly pledged a “World Cup against racism,” declaring, “Sports should be no place for prejudice.”

Yet when Brazil’s top player, Neymar, broke a vertebra when he was kneed in the back during a match on Friday by a Colombian player, the torrent of racist insults against the Colombian, Juan Camilo Zúñiga, showed how far the host of the World Cup remains from achieving that goal.

Expressing fury over Neymar’s injury, which sidelined him for the rest of the tournament, some Brazilians took to social media, including Twitter and Instagram, to express their rage against Mr. Zúñiga with racial slurs.

“It might be stunning to a lot of outsiders, but the way our Colombian brother has been treated shows yet again that Brazil is one of the world’s most racist countries,” said David Santos, a Franciscan friar in São Paulo, Brazil. He directs Educafro, an organization preparing black and low-income students for university entrance exams.

Before injury: Neymar Jr. (as of 2014)

The racism expressed by many Brazilians against Mr. Zúñiga points to the tension that persists in a country where prominent writers and scholars long argued that much of the prejudice and discrimination found in the segregation-era United States had been avoided.

In recent decades, discussion over the legacies of slavery, which was abolished in Brazil in 1888, has shifted. While more than half of those in the population of about 200 million define themselves as black or of mixed race, giving Brazil more people of African descent than any country beyond the borders of Africa, the top ranks of government and the private sector remain dominated by whites.

Brazil has recently enacted sweeping affirmative action laws aimed at increasing enrollment of students of African descent in public universities and the hiring of black or mixed-race candidates for coveted public jobs. Brazil also has legislation explicitly prohibiting racial or ethnic discrimination.

Yet as the Zúñiga episode has shown, soccer remains an area where racism is still openly tolerated by some.

The situation was supposed to be different during the World Cup.

Brazil’s government issued stern warnings against racial insults or other discriminatory behavior during the tournament. Even before the match between Brazil and Colombia, players from both teams held aloft a banner declaring, “Say No to Racism,” a slogan promoted by FIFA, the organization that oversees the World Cup.

Yet Brazil’s racial divide has also come into greater focus since the tournament began in June. Reflecting high ticket prices in a country where blacks still generally earn far less than whites, a poll by the Datafolha polling company suggested that fans attending games were overwhelmingly rich and white.

The Neymar story is actually a lot more interesting than this article makes it sound. The NYT labors tirelessly to raise sensitivity to transgenderism, but why is it so insensitive to transracialism?

Doesn’t the Times know that Race Doesn’t Exist? So, anybody can become any race they want, and only cisracist transphobics are skeptical. After all, if the vaguely “international” or “multicultural” Barry Soetoro (as he was known to his friends up through age 24) can conjure himself into being The First Black President, then Neymar ought to be able to turn his exterior into a reflection of his inner Green Day fan. If Obama wrote a 150,000 word memoir about his Dreams From My Father that he barely knew in order to become a transblack, why can’t Neymar be a transwhite? He could call his autobiography Dreams from Blink 182. (Click here to see pictures of what Neymar looked like five years ago.)

 
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  1. Ed says:

    Neymar is also very interesting in regards to race. He evidently has done a Michael Jackson or Sammy Sosa and has lighten his skin. This has made him the subjects of attacks by African American social justice types.

    Neymar and the Disappearing Donkey

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  2. bleach says:

    I wonder how many of the people making monkey noises and throwing around racial slurs are mixed race themselves. Surely some must be..

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  3. sobl says: • Website

    It’s hard for American journalists to understand not everyone is on the prog line. Isnt the other irony that the NYT is missing a black player deliberately breaking a star’s back with his knee in order to get angry at south american fan racism? Fulfilling stereotypes one attack at a time.

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  4. bomag [AKA "doombuggy"] says:

    The NYT is so cravenly PC they have to lecture other countries on racial matters.

    “Soccer fans say mean things. Women and minorities hardest hit.”

    “Soccer fans rich and white. Women and minorities hardest hit.”

    Etc.

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  5. Corvinus says:

    These words never rang truer! Thanks, Peter Akuleyev!

    Let’s not go overboard. As far as men are concerned the same “cool look” rules from Brazil to Mexico City to Calcutta to Berlin to New York, and that would be precisely the Naymar tan-skinned “racially ambiguous” look. It is not cool to be a fair skinned blue-eyed blond like German star Andre Schürrle. And being a ginger, “the whitest of the white”, is uncool everywhere, and it is socially acceptable, apparently, to mock them in the media (See Dalton, Andy). At the same time, being a true Subsaharan dark black is not considered attractive anywhere either, not even in the PC USA. All the major black male stars are some variation of “high yellow”. Just as blonde white women are the most attractive in any culture, a tanned mediterranean looking man is the most attractive in any culture – it’s just that in Brazil or India that look is lighter than the dominant population, in Germany or US it’s darker than the dominant population.

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  6. syonredux says:

    Spot On!:”It is not cool to be a fair skinned blue-eyed blond like German star Andre Schürrle.”

    Well, Ryan Gosling seems to be doing okay….

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  7. syonredux says:

    “Doesn’t the Times know that Race Doesn’t Exist? So, anybody can become any race they want, and only cisracist transphobics are skeptical.”

    I look forward to an age where Neymar is described in the NYTIMES as a transwhite man while Brad Pitt is called ciswhite.

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  8. Finian says:

    Wait, they’re more worried that people were mean to someone who broke a player’s back, than about the fact that said player broke someone’s back? Better a broken back than non-PC chants. We’re doomed.

    The match itself was interesting, in that you can make the case that the Brazilians set out to beat up the Colombians, and were allowed by the referee, so the Colombians retaliated. (God awful football, but interesting as a semi legalised street fight.) That’s why so many of the Brazilian players were less angry than the fans. But the question of blame is clearly too nuance for the rubes who read the NYT.

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  9. Harold says:

    “Brazil has recently enacted sweeping affirmative action laws aimed at increasing enrollment of students of African descent in public universities and the hiring of black or mixed-race candidates for coveted public jobs. Brazil also has legislation explicitly prohibiting racial or ethnic discrimination.”

    In a sane world this paragraph would be a joke. Someone buy these people a dictionary so they can look up “discrimination”.

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  10. syonredux says:

    I’ve been googling through images of Neymar, and I’m really impressed with the quality of his plastic surgeon. I mean, just compare him to Michael Jackson or Sosa. Of course, given the fact that Brazil is one one of the world capitals of gender re-assignment surgery, perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised that Brazil is also the leader in race re-assignment surgery?Perhaps Neymar simply lucked out by virtue of being Brazilian.

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    Buenos Aires was known 25 years ago for being the world capital of cosmetic surgery. And Venezuelan beauty pageant contestants don't believe in letting well enough alone, either.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Seems to be mainly skin lightening and hair straightening; his facial features look the same.
  11. Mr. Anon says:

    This article also tends to indicate that if the US becomes a North American Brazil – a demographic trajectory that many see as likely – that there still won’t be an end to affirmative action and the endless harping about racism.

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  12. Mr. Anon says:

    Why is it racist to insult a black person with comparisons to simian behavior? G.W. Bush was routinely compared to a chimp, and was referred to by many (including myself) as “The Chimp”.

    Was that racist? Should I apologize to W?

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  13. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    To syon, don’t you think that the biggest difference between Neymar and Michael Jackson in regards to the quality of their race-reassignment treatments, is simply that 20+ years have passed, and the technology has significantly improved?

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  14. @syonredux
    I've been googling through images of Neymar, and I'm really impressed with the quality of his plastic surgeon. I mean, just compare him to Michael Jackson or Sosa. Of course, given the fact that Brazil is one one of the world capitals of gender re-assignment surgery, perhaps we shouldn't be surprised that Brazil is also the leader in race re-assignment surgery?Perhaps Neymar simply lucked out by virtue of being Brazilian.

    Buenos Aires was known 25 years ago for being the world capital of cosmetic surgery. And Venezuelan beauty pageant contestants don’t believe in letting well enough alone, either.

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  15. syonredux says:

    plastic:”To syon, don’t you think that the biggest difference between Neymar and Michael Jackson in regards to the quality of their race-reassignment treatments, is simply that 20+ years have passed, and the technology has significantly improved?”

    Sure. Technology marches on and all that. Still, I think that Brazil’s status as an innovator in plastic surgery (especially in the area of gender re-assignment surgery) needs to be taken into account as well. Perhaps Brazil (“the country of the future”) will lead the way into a race-optional future, a place where there are no Whites and Blacks, only cis-whites/trans-whites and cis-blacks/trans-blacks?

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  16. syonredux says:

    Re: Brazil and gender reassignment surgery,

    “In 2008, Brazil’s public health system started providing free sex change operations in compliance with a court order. Federal prosecutors had argued that sexual reassignment surgery was covered under a constitutional clause guaranteeing medical care as a basic right.” (WIKIPEDIA)

    Wonder if race-reassignment surgery will ever become a fundamental right?

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  17. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Check out google images of the ginger, Tom Hiddleston.

    He wears makeup to red carpet appearances. It tans his complexion, but results in a visible white line of demarcation along his hairline.

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  18. Wait, they’re more worried that people were mean to someone who broke a player’s back, than about the fact that said player broke someone’s back? Better a broken back than non-PC chants. We’re doomed.

    Also as we’ve seen with the Anthony Cumia affair, punching a passer by several times in the street is much worse than a tweet calling someone who acts violently a “savage”, but only if that person is a person of color (or a sexual minority for that matter).

    Better a bloody nose than a mean tweet.

    As Moldbug said 5 years ago, minorities and LGBBQ have attained a right which was previously restricted to nobility & samurai: the right to not be offended, and to respond to offence with violence.

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  19. ic1000 says:

    > Even before the match between Brazil and Colombia, players from both teams held aloft a banner declaring, “Say No to Intentionally Breaking the Back of Another Player,” a slogan promoted by FIFA.

    No — being more concerned about the infliction of crippling injuries than about hurt feelings could only happen in the Bizarro-World edition of the NYT. At least where Who? Whom? is in play.

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    #lovefootball - lovebribes

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-28210852

    "A Fifa partner firm has defended its chief executive after his arrest by Brazilian police investigating the illegal sale of World Cup tickets."

    a/c/t BBC radio news one of the owners of the partner firm is a nephew of FIFA president Sepp Blatter.

    I'm old enough to remember when FIFA was run by old white Brits like Sir Stanley Rous, and the BBC and Guardian ran a long propaganda campaign to make the leadership "more inclusive". Be careful what you wish for.
  20. Lot says:

    Pretty amazing work, he really does look all European now. I noticed in another pic that he bleaches his stubble, which, as silly as it sounds, does make him look like a natural blond.

    What’s with the green day reference? Billie joe Armstrong dyes his hair black and wears mascara.

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  21. AKAHorace says:

    If Neymar can become whiteish are they cosmetic surgeons who could help white americans become blackish ? Do you see this as a growth field Steve ?

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  22. @Lot
    Pretty amazing work, he really does look all European now. I noticed in another pic that he bleaches his stubble, which, as silly as it sounds, does make him look like a natural blond.

    What's with the green day reference? Billie joe Armstrong dyes his hair black and wears mascara.

    Dying your stubble blond is hard core.

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  23. syonredux says:

    RE: Blondness in Brazil,

    This is only a personal anecdote, but I went on vacation with a buddy of mine to Brazil a few years ago. He’s a tall (6’3), blond, blue-eyed surfer-due type (but highly intelligent; he went to Boalt Hall) , and the Brazilian girls were crazy for him. He does well with women back in CA, but this was his normal success level cubed.

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  24. iSteveFan says:

    Wait, they’re more worried that people were mean to someone who broke a player’s back, than about the fact that said player broke someone’s back? Better a broken back than non-PC chants. We’re doomed.

    They’ve been this way awhile. Remember Omar Thornton and the CT shooting. Instead of blaming the shooter they were busy trying to determine if the victims were racists, and thus somehow deserved their fate.

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  25. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    With “transracial” vs. “cisracial,” Sailer has coined terms that will certainly become more common with each decade.

    The technology is going to continue to improve.

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  26. Stand by for trouble – Germany 5-0 up against Brazil in 30 minutes, many tearful women and small children in the crowd, and the BBC radio commentators at half time all saying “I’m not going out on the streets tonight”.

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    For the soccer haters out there, who invariably worship overgrown, tatted-up West African "a-tha-letes" instead:

    Out of the 8 goals in the Germany-Brazil semifinal, all were scored by white players. Unless you count the half-German, half-Arab Khedira as non-white.

    Also, out of the worlds 3 best soccer players, 2 are white (Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo) and one is a mulatto working hard to become completely white.
  27. @ic1000
    > Even before the match between Brazil and Colombia, players from both teams held aloft a banner declaring, “Say No to Intentionally Breaking the Back of Another Player,” a slogan promoted by FIFA.

    No -- being more concerned about the infliction of crippling injuries than about hurt feelings could only happen in the Bizarro-World edition of the NYT. At least where Who? Whom? is in play.

    #lovefootball – lovebribes

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-28210852

    “A Fifa partner firm has defended its chief executive after his arrest by Brazilian police investigating the illegal sale of World Cup tickets.”

    a/c/t BBC radio news one of the owners of the partner firm is a nephew of FIFA president Sepp Blatter.

    I’m old enough to remember when FIFA was run by old white Brits like Sir Stanley Rous, and the BBC and Guardian ran a long propaganda campaign to make the leadership “more inclusive”. Be careful what you wish for.

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  28. Pretty amazing work, he really does look all European now.

    Be real. He went from looking like a Mulatto to looking like a Quadroon.

    While he does look less black, I don’t really think he looks any whiter. He just looks much more American Indian than before. And he looks more like Heath Ledger (an Amazonian/Mulatto version).

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  29. Priss Factor [AKA "Cloudcastler"] says:

    Northern European Protestant stock were racially more exacting but also morally more exacting.
    So, they used to say white is white and black is black but today they say right is right and wrong is wrong.
    Since ‘racism’ is wrong, it must be hounded and purged constantly. The mentality is purist, with NO ifs and buts.

    Southern European Catholic stock were racially less exacting but also morally less exacting. So, they were more murky about white and black but also about right and wrong.

    If US wants more diversity of the Latin-American kind, American morality will also become more murky and muddled. The Latin mentality is different from the northern protestant mind-set.

    Latins are more live-and-let-live about both race and morality.
    PC likes to believe that more diversity and mixed-ness means more morality, but that’s not true. Both Latin racial views and Latin moral views rest on the mentality of laxness and tolerance for ‘imperfection’. Mentality shapes attitudes and values.

    The Latin way of keeping order is honor and status.

    Germans could be purist in their goodness and badness. They could be purist in their idea of race: commit 100% to radical racism or commit 100% to multi-culturalism(and racial suicide). Germans like to do things right, which is why they can be very good or very bad.

    In contrast, Italians can only be 50% for anything. So, they can’t be extremely bad(like the Nazis during WWII) but they can’t be extremely good either. They can’t be 100% race-purist but also not 100% crazy about multu-culturalism like the purist ideologues of Germanic/Scandinavian nations. It’s just their nature.

    So, if US loves the Latin mentality of live-and-let-live, it shouldn’t be so judgmental. From the Latin viewpoint, it’s just guys blowing off steam and having fun.

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  30. This is only a personal anecdote, but I went on vacation with a buddy of mine to Brazil a few years ago. He’s a tall (6’3), blond, blue-eyed surfer-due type (but highly intelligent; he went to Boalt Hall) , and the Brazilian girls were crazy for him. He does well with women back in CA, but this was his normal success level cubed.

    Nordic blonde men are arriving in Brazil due to the efforts of Brazilian feminists.

    International leftist NGOs are trying to remake the native Brazilian feminists into their own mirror, but most Brazilian feminists strike me as women who want to have relations with feminist Scandinavian men.

    That’s the kind of impression I got from observing and analyzing Brazilian feminist gatherings. It’s Brazilian Prostitution with a feminist twist, except that the customer isn’t just any normal white guy from Europe (or an Asian man) but has to be Mr. Thor with feminist cred.

    Of course, when I point this out some think that I’m imagining stuff (or even projecting), but turns out that I was right about my instincts on that issue and that the prostitution business in Brazil is not just huge, but present in all regions (affecting the lowly populated areas the most though, meaning the North and Center-West regions primarily because the North only has 16 million people and the Center-West only has 14 million people).

    It kind of makes sense, since a predominant percentage of Brazilian DNA and looks was given by white fathers (colonizers, immigrants, etc). I have observed the increased amount of pale blonde men in Brazil, so that will be the end result of “Brazilian feminist style”.

    Scandinavian men going to Brazil to get laid with Brazilian feminist (prostitutes).

    Just wait until the Scandinavian women find out how they have been duped by Brazilian feminists. When that happens, perhaps some would have listened to my warnings about feminist Scandinavian men in Brazil.

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  31. ogunsiron says:

    What do White women in South-America look for in their White men ?
    Do they want a white guy who’s a bit darker than they are, like white women elsewhere or are they also in search of the whitest guy possible ?

    South-america and the caribbean are the only place that I can think of where light-skinned black guys are truly a hit with the ladies. They certainly aren’t here in north-america.

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  32. ogunsiron says:

    Spot On! says:
    …. It is not cool to be a fair skinned blue-eyed blond like German star Andre Schürrle. And being a ginger, “the whitest of the white”, is uncool everywhere, and it is socially acceptable, apparently, to mock them in the media (See Dalton, Andy). At the same time, being a true Subsaharan dark black is not considered attractive anywhere either, not even in the PC USA
    —-
    Looking like a south-sudanese is indeed not very popular anywhere, but a lot of america’s black male celebrities could easily pass for sub-saharan african. They mostly wouldn’t pass for senegalese, south-sudanese or luo, sure, but sub-saharan africans are a bit more diverse than what is commonly realized. Kanye, for example, could be straight from Africa.
    Take a look at those guys :

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/ira/the-official-ranking-of-the-51-hottest-black-men-i-8p6m

    The vast majority of them could be africans so I disagree that when it comes to sexual market value, among blacks it’s a huge advantage to look very mixed here in north-america.

    About gingers, has anyone noticed that in old commercials from, say, 50 years ago, the typical kid is a little ginger white boy with weird teeth ?

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  33. charlie says:

    Strange that white men can get laid pretty much anywhere except the old USA….

    Or is that white american women care more about status than sex?

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  34. Bert says:

    FIFA is so full of crap it’s not funny. If the monkey chanting incident had happened in a European country (especially Western Europe) the World Cup would probably have been stopped immediately and the offending team dragged before a dozen tribunals and subject to fines out the ass. As it is all we get is some weasily whining.

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  35. Priss Factor [AKA "Skyislander"] says: • Website

    Uh oh, Brazilians are gonna be superduper pissed at Zuniga as Brazil without Neymar lost 7-1 to Germany.

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  36. Beach says:

    #27 syon, I concur. I couldn’t say regarding the “coolness” factor, but my 6’3″ blond, blue eyed son has dusky ladies after him wherever he goes. It was the same even when he was a child. Little girls in his elementary classes who were black or brown wanted to sit next to him and hold his hand. He went to school in London, England as a child, and in Florida USA as a young adult, and it’s been the same in both countries. He prefers blondes personally, but I’m curious as to what type of woman he’ll eventually end up marrying.

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  37. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux
    Spot On!:"It is not cool to be a fair skinned blue-eyed blond like German star Andre Schürrle."

    Well, Ryan Gosling seems to be doing okay....

    +1

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  38. Priss Factor [AKA "Skyislander"] says: • Website

    That ramming of Neymar from the back by Zuniga looks so… fruitish.

    Good thing no one made homo remarks about it, as NY TIMES would have gone off(or into) the deep end.

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  39. Priss Factor [AKA "Skyislander"] says: • Website

    If trans-racialism becomes a reality, here’s a good way for a white ‘racist’ accused of killing a black guy to avoid the charges of ‘hate crime’.

    Make himself black. That way, it will become a black-on-black crime.

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  40. Priss Factor [AKA "Skyislander"] says: • Website

    Suppose some guy is totally black and another guy is 1/4 black, and the former attacks the latter for being ‘white’.

    Is that a black-on-black crime or a ‘hate crime’?

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  41. Bill M says:

    Large butts and legs in women, an African phenotype, are also popular in Brazil and plastic surgeries for butt injections are becoming popular. A more svelte, less African, female physique used to be more popular in Brazil but now large butts and legs are more popular:

    This preference has also affected American culture recently somewhat.

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  42. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Sorry, OT

    As I predicted, Brazil is not going to win this time. The 1:7 humiliation was a classic Black Swan because Brazil’s worst ever loss in any kind of game was 0:6 (in 1920) and it never lost in a World Cup with the goal difference larger than three. Not to mention that hosts never lost by more than three goals.

    I hope that nobody gets killed over it. Riots are pretty much guaranteed but I will be happy to be proven wrong. Brazil still has to play for the third place – gonna be fun either way. Stick to it, guys!

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    The commentators mentioned that German fans will be sequestered and escorted by the police out of the stadium to protect them from violence by Brazilian fans. I can't remember if such measures were needed when Germany lost to Italy in the 2006 World Cup in Germany. Can someone remind me?
  43. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @syonredux
    I've been googling through images of Neymar, and I'm really impressed with the quality of his plastic surgeon. I mean, just compare him to Michael Jackson or Sosa. Of course, given the fact that Brazil is one one of the world capitals of gender re-assignment surgery, perhaps we shouldn't be surprised that Brazil is also the leader in race re-assignment surgery?Perhaps Neymar simply lucked out by virtue of being Brazilian.

    Seems to be mainly skin lightening and hair straightening; his facial features look the same.

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  44. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @ogunsiron
    Spot On! says:
    .... It is not cool to be a fair skinned blue-eyed blond like German star Andre Schürrle. And being a ginger, “the whitest of the white”, is uncool everywhere, and it is socially acceptable, apparently, to mock them in the media (See Dalton, Andy). At the same time, being a true Subsaharan dark black is not considered attractive anywhere either, not even in the PC USA
    ----
    Looking like a south-sudanese is indeed not very popular anywhere, but a lot of america's black male celebrities could easily pass for sub-saharan african. They mostly wouldn't pass for senegalese, south-sudanese or luo, sure, but sub-saharan africans are a bit more diverse than what is commonly realized. Kanye, for example, could be straight from Africa.
    Take a look at those guys :
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/ira/the-official-ranking-of-the-51-hottest-black-men-i-8p6m
    The vast majority of them could be africans so I disagree that when it comes to sexual market value, among blacks it's a huge advantage to look very mixed here in north-america.

    About gingers, has anyone noticed that in old commercials from, say, 50 years ago, the typical kid is a little ginger white boy with weird teeth ?

    Alexi Lalas hasn’t had a problem being a ginger.

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  45. @Dale -

    Large butts and legs in women, an African phenotype, are also popular in Brazil and plastic surgeries for butt injections are becoming popular. A more svelte, less African, female physique used to be more popular in Brazil but now large butts and legs are more popular:

    Most Brazilians who go for cosmetic surgery do so to look either as prettier version of an ambiguous mixed-raced person (typical), or to look more white Caucasian. Some U.S. American journalists like to talk about “butt injections” but from my experience in Brazil, almost nobody wants to look Amerindian (underclass) or Black African (underclass).

    That type of media distortion is the same way the international media concentrates on favelas non-stop, despite the fact that they’re only 12 million out of 200 million, or just 6% of the population. Favelas are just 6% of the Brazilian population, but one wouldn’t know that from the excessive attention they get.

    South-america and the caribbean are the only place that I can think of where light-skinned black guys are truly a hit with the ladies. They certainly aren’t here in north-america.

    Both white and mixed-raced women, at least in Brazil (Lusophone South American country), all value light skin, Caucasian features and want that for their children (legitimate children for white women, illegitimate children for mixed-raced women). Having a darker child isn’t desirable, it’s abnormal and it’s usually frowned upon in diverse social gatherings.

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  46. Alexi Lalas hasn’t had a problem being a ginger.

    Ginger men are alright in Brazil.

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  47. Marcio says:

    Man, your blog is really interesting but you’re way off the mark here. No one does “skin lightening” in Brazil (I don’t know about the rest of South America). Brazil is not India – you won’t find one single skin lightening product in Brazil, unlike in India where this is big business.

    If anything, the Brazilian concept of beauty LOVES tanned skin – the ideal look here is a definitely very caucasian, but tanned. The prejudice is more against the kinky hair and the wide nose, not the dark skin.

    About Neymar: he obviously straights his hair and expends a lot of money with hair stylists. But that’s it. I really don’t see where you guys got the idea that he did plastic surgery or whitened his skin.

    The difference between his current look and 5 years ago is simply the hair. The difference in skin tone is simply due to more exposure to sun. Maybe he went more to the beach when he was playing for Santos (Santos is a Beach city).

    If ever met any one that is mixed-race you will know that the main difference is how much we can tan much more.

    For example, I look basically as a white mediterranean guy even though I’m mixed (1/8 black, 1/8 native-brazilian, the rest portuguese, spanish and dutch). The main difference is that I can get REALLY dark when I tan.

    I mean, I can blush and you can see my vains when I’m not tanned, but I can get as black as Neymar if I stay out in the sun for a long time.

    With Neymar is the same thing: what you guys are thinking is his “Whitened skin” is actually his actual skin color (which is not very white, he is “moreno”for us), and the old pictures is just him with a very good tan. Don’t forget that the kid is more white than black (white mother, mixed-dad).

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  48. Nick Diaz says:

    Steve Sailer, once again you ascribe racial motivations to social phenomenon without evidence to back it up. This is a classic case of trying to fit reality into a theory, and not the other way around as it should be. Causality and correlation are two different things. Just because lots of non-white youths straighten their hair for racial aesthetics reasons, it does not follow that all non-white youths who straighten their hai do it for these reasons. Brazilians are not nearly as obsessed at looking white as you assume them to be. Pelé is much blacker than Neymar, and he never felt the need to straighten his hair.

    . What about the millions of WHITE teenage boys who straighten their hair to so they can have “emo” haircuts? Has it ever occured to you that Neymar’s hairstyle might simply be a fashion and not an attempt at looking whiter? Of course not, because you have an idea to sell, and reality MUST fit what you’re selling.

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    "Brazilians are not nearly as obsessed at looking white as you assume them to be."

    For awhile, Neymar was dying his beard stubble blond:

    http://africasacountry.com/neymar-and-race-in-brazil/

    He's a handsome young fellow who has recently come into a lot of money and he's using it to play around with his looks. In the U.S., we associate male celebrities transitioning from a fairly black affect to a fairly white affect with either incompetence (Sammy Sosa) or sexual weirdness and obsession (Michael Jackson). But here's a man who has pulled it off with aplomb, which I suspect has something to do with how well-developed these whitening methodologies are in Brazil.

  49. @Nick Diaz
    Steve Sailer, once again you ascribe racial motivations to social phenomenon without evidence to back it up. This is a classic case of trying to fit reality into a theory, and not the other way around as it should be. Causality and correlation are two different things. Just because lots of non-white youths straighten their hair for racial aesthetics reasons, it does not follow that all non-white youths who straighten their hai do it for these reasons. Brazilians are not nearly as obsessed at looking white as you assume them to be. Pelé is much blacker than Neymar, and he never felt the need to straighten his hair.

    . What about the millions of WHITE teenage boys who straighten their hair to so they can have "emo" haircuts? Has it ever occured to you that Neymar's hairstyle might simply be a fashion and not an attempt at looking whiter? Of course not, because you have an idea to sell, and reality MUST fit what you're selling.

    “Brazilians are not nearly as obsessed at looking white as you assume them to be.”

    For awhile, Neymar was dying his beard stubble blond:

    http://africasacountry.com/neymar-and-race-in-brazil/

    He’s a handsome young fellow who has recently come into a lot of money and he’s using it to play around with his looks. In the U.S., we associate male celebrities transitioning from a fairly black affect to a fairly white affect with either incompetence (Sammy Sosa) or sexual weirdness and obsession (Michael Jackson). But here’s a man who has pulled it off with aplomb, which I suspect has something to do with how well-developed these whitening methodologies are in Brazil.

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  50. syonredux says:

    Dave Pinsen:”Seems to be mainly skin lightening and hair straightening; his facial features look the same.”

    Look at more photos; he’s had a nose job. Indeed, lots of people on the internet have commented on it.

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  51. SportsFan says:
    @Anonymous Nephew
    Stand by for trouble - Germany 5-0 up against Brazil in 30 minutes, many tearful women and small children in the crowd, and the BBC radio commentators at half time all saying "I'm not going out on the streets tonight".

    For the soccer haters out there, who invariably worship overgrown, tatted-up West African “a-tha-letes” instead:

    Out of the 8 goals in the Germany-Brazil semifinal, all were scored by white players. Unless you count the half-German, half-Arab Khedira as non-white.

    Also, out of the worlds 3 best soccer players, 2 are white (Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo) and one is a mulatto working hard to become completely white.

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  52. Bill M says:

    . What about the millions of WHITE teenage boys who straighten their hair to so they can have “emo” haircuts? Has it ever occured to you that Neymar’s hairstyle might simply be a fashion and not an attempt at looking whiter? Of course not, because you have an idea to sell, and reality MUST fit what you’re selling.

    Where I live that was considered an “emo” or Asian hairstyle, not a white one. It was the emo crowd and Asian guys who did their hair like that, no white guys.

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    Brazil has a not insignificant Japanese minority. I don't think they marry out much, so it's unlikely Neymar has any Japanese ancestry, but he may be going for a little bit of Asian look. His latest look would seem run-of-the-mill in, say, Torrance, CA where a lot of kids are mixes of white, Filipino, Northeast Asian, and Mexican.
  53. SportsFan says:
    @Anonymous
    Sorry, OT

    As I predicted, Brazil is not going to win this time. The 1:7 humiliation was a classic Black Swan because Brazil's worst ever loss in any kind of game was 0:6 (in 1920) and it never lost in a World Cup with the goal difference larger than three. Not to mention that hosts never lost by more than three goals.

    I hope that nobody gets killed over it. Riots are pretty much guaranteed but I will be happy to be proven wrong. Brazil still has to play for the third place - gonna be fun either way. Stick to it, guys!

    The commentators mentioned that German fans will be sequestered and escorted by the police out of the stadium to protect them from violence by Brazilian fans. I can’t remember if such measures were needed when Germany lost to Italy in the 2006 World Cup in Germany. Can someone remind me?

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  54. @Bill M

    . What about the millions of WHITE teenage boys who straighten their hair to so they can have “emo” haircuts? Has it ever occured to you that Neymar’s hairstyle might simply be a fashion and not an attempt at looking whiter? Of course not, because you have an idea to sell, and reality MUST fit what you’re selling.
     
    Where I live that was considered an "emo" or Asian hairstyle, not a white one. It was the emo crowd and Asian guys who did their hair like that, no white guys.

    Brazil has a not insignificant Japanese minority. I don’t think they marry out much, so it’s unlikely Neymar has any Japanese ancestry, but he may be going for a little bit of Asian look. His latest look would seem run-of-the-mill in, say, Torrance, CA where a lot of kids are mixes of white, Filipino, Northeast Asian, and Mexican.

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    • Replies: @Bill M
    Well I don't know that he's really going for an Asian look. He looks like he's squinting a bit in that picture but I don't think he's trying to look Asian. Also I don't know that the funky straight bangs type hairstyle is associated with Asians in Brazil.
  55. syonredux says:

    Marcio:”Man, your blog is really interesting but you’re way off the mark here. No one does “skin lightening” in Brazil (I don’t know about the rest of South America).”

    Seems to be untrue. Just a quick google search revealed discussions about skin bleaching in Brazil. Cf, for example, the controversy over singer Anitta’s suddenly considerably fairer skin.

    Marcio:”If anything, the Brazilian concept of beauty LOVES tanned skin – the ideal look here is a definitely very caucasian, but tanned.”

    And the younger Neymar was too dark for this beauty standard.

    Marcio:”About Neymar: he obviously straights his hair and expends a lot of money with hair stylists. But that’s it. I really don’t see where you guys got the idea that he did plastic surgery”

    Check the photos; he;s had a very high quality nose job.

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    • Replies: @Marcio
    No, ti's not untrue. Come to Brazil and try to find ANY product to white your skin on the supermarket or any cosmetic store. You won't find, period. It's just not used here.

    The Anita "controversy"is as stupid as the Neymar one.

    Some silly foreigners saw some pictures of her tanned (as a girl with mixed ancestry, like me, she can get really dark) and some pictures of her natural color and decided she was whitening her skin.
  56. Priss Factor [AKA "gub"] says:

    “If anything, the Brazilian concept of beauty LOVES tanned skin – the ideal look here is a definitely very caucasian, but tanned. The prejudice is more against the kinky hair and the wide nose, not the dark skin.”

    Then, why did Neymar lighten his skin from dark to tanned?

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    He did NOT light his skin. Did you read my whole post?
  57. Bill M says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Brazil has a not insignificant Japanese minority. I don't think they marry out much, so it's unlikely Neymar has any Japanese ancestry, but he may be going for a little bit of Asian look. His latest look would seem run-of-the-mill in, say, Torrance, CA where a lot of kids are mixes of white, Filipino, Northeast Asian, and Mexican.

    Well I don’t know that he’s really going for an Asian look. He looks like he’s squinting a bit in that picture but I don’t think he’s trying to look Asian. Also I don’t know that the funky straight bangs type hairstyle is associated with Asians in Brazil.

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    • Replies: @Marcio
    The "funky straight bangs" are associated with "Emo" guys in Brazil, not Asians.

    By the way, Japanese-Brazilians do mix a lot. They are found mostly in two States (São Paulo and Paraná. I'm from the latter) where by the second and third generation more than half are mixed and they rarely speak Japanese.

    One example of a famous Japanese-brazilian is Sabrina Sato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Sato
  58. Marcio says:
    @syonredux
    Marcio:"Man, your blog is really interesting but you’re way off the mark here. No one does “skin lightening” in Brazil (I don’t know about the rest of South America)."

    Seems to be untrue. Just a quick google search revealed discussions about skin bleaching in Brazil. Cf, for example, the controversy over singer Anitta's suddenly considerably fairer skin.



    Marcio:"If anything, the Brazilian concept of beauty LOVES tanned skin – the ideal look here is a definitely very caucasian, but tanned."

    And the younger Neymar was too dark for this beauty standard.



    Marcio:"About Neymar: he obviously straights his hair and expends a lot of money with hair stylists. But that’s it. I really don’t see where you guys got the idea that he did plastic surgery"

    Check the photos; he;s had a very high quality nose job.

    No, ti’s not untrue. Come to Brazil and try to find ANY product to white your skin on the supermarket or any cosmetic store. You won’t find, period. It’s just not used here.

    The Anita “controversy”is as stupid as the Neymar one.

    Some silly foreigners saw some pictures of her tanned (as a girl with mixed ancestry, like me, she can get really dark) and some pictures of her natural color and decided she was whitening her skin.

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  59. Marcio says:
    @Priss Factor
    "If anything, the Brazilian concept of beauty LOVES tanned skin – the ideal look here is a definitely very caucasian, but tanned. The prejudice is more against the kinky hair and the wide nose, not the dark skin."

    Then, why did Neymar lighten his skin from dark to tanned?

    He did NOT light his skin. Did you read my whole post?

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  60. Marcio says:
    @Bill M
    Well I don't know that he's really going for an Asian look. He looks like he's squinting a bit in that picture but I don't think he's trying to look Asian. Also I don't know that the funky straight bangs type hairstyle is associated with Asians in Brazil.

    The “funky straight bangs” are associated with “Emo” guys in Brazil, not Asians.

    By the way, Japanese-Brazilians do mix a lot. They are found mostly in two States (São Paulo and Paraná. I’m from the latter) where by the second and third generation more than half are mixed and they rarely speak Japanese.

    One example of a famous Japanese-brazilian is Sabrina Sato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Sato

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    I'm a fan of Lyoto Machida:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyoto_Machida
  61. Lurker says:

    Nick Diaz – Steve Sailer, once again you ascribe racial motivations to social phenomenon without evidence to back it up

    I think Steve is making the point that racial motivations are some of the drivers of social phenomena. I doubt he would say they were the sole, direct driver of social phenomena.

    This is an antidote to the mainstream view that racial motivations simply don’t exist in any shape or form. Unless they are the righteous payback for all of whitey’s past and present crimes. Then, obviously, it’s allowable.

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  62. syonredux says:

    marcio:”No, ti’s not untrue. Come to Brazil and try to find ANY product to white your skin on the supermarket or any cosmetic store. You won’t find, period. It’s just not used here.”

    Nobody’s talking about over-the-counter products. Neymar went to a plastic surgeon to have his skin lightened. His plastic surgeon was just a lot better than Sammy Sosa’s.

    marcio:”The Anita “controversy”is as stupid as the Neymar one.

    Some silly foreigners saw some pictures of her tanned (as a girl with mixed ancestry, like me, she can get really dark) and some pictures of her natural color and decided she was whitening her skin.”

    Or maybe they just saw what you are not willing to see?

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    Dude, plastic surgery is super common here in Brazil and it's not a taboo to talk about it, unlike in the USA. People openly talk about having nose jobs, putting implants on their boobs, etc...

    Having that in mind, I NEVER, EVER heard or read about plastic surgery to have your skin lightened in Brazil. It's just not common here.

    And if Neymar did such thing, then the surgeon is a pretty bad one: Neymar is still not fair skinned at all. He's still dark for Brazilians standards. He's "moreno", not "branco".

    And repeating what I said about mixed race people (which includes myself): we can tan A LOT, even if we are fair skinned. If you saw a picture of me when I was a kid (very dark kid, darker than Neymar as kid because I played a lot outside in the sun) and a picture of me now (typical mediterranean white, think Cristiano Ronaldo) you would probably say that I had my skin lightened too.

    The same applies to Anita.

    And no, I'm not just "not willing to see". Because there is nothing to see here other than some silly foreigners not understanding that mixed-race people with african ancestry can get a much deeper tan than non-mixed people.

    If you really wanna pick something that Brazilians do to hide their African ancestry, I can give you that: hair straightening. THAT'S super common in Brazil and its popularity does have a element of racial shaming. Most people want to avoid what they call "cabelo de negro" (black's hair) or, even more racist, "Bad hair"(Cabelo Ruim).
  63. ogunsiron says:

    Alcestis Eshtemoa says:
    July 8, 2014 at 9:50 pm
    @Dale -

    Large butts and legs in women, an African phenotype, are also popular in Brazil and plastic surgeries for butt injections are becoming popular. A more svelte, less African, female physique used to be more popular in Brazil but now large butts and legs are more popular:

    Most Brazilians who go for cosmetic surgery do so to look either as prettier version of an ambiguous mixed-raced person (typical), or to look more white Caucasian. Some U.S. American journalists like to talk about “butt injections” but from my experience in Brazil, almost nobody wants to look Amerindian (underclass) or Black African (underclass).
    —-
    Alcestis,
    people might want to appropriate a particular feature typical of another racial group and yet not be interested in other typical features of that racial group.

    In Brazil, round butts are appreciated in a way very atypical for a european or eurasian civilization. It doesn’t seem crazy to suggest that this love of round butts is african in origin.
    It doesn’t mean that brazilian society embraces the whole african cultural package. It obviously doesn’t! But when it comes to that feature, it’s got to be african influence because traditionally, europeans (i’d say eurasians in general) just don’t “get” butts at all.

    The japanese seem fond of european light hair (I don’t think this was true traditionally, but it seems true nowadays) but they don’t seem to like european big noses at all. They love to make fun of european big noses actually. I doubt that they like the relative hairiness of the body either. It’s quite possible to be picky when liking features of an another group.

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  64. Curle says:

    I love your stuff but a clarification, even if it must be in defense of Obama, is in order.

    Barry Obama was never known as Barry Soetoro to his friends at Punahou growing up between the ages of 10-18. He was known only as Barry Obama. And, by friends, I’m referring to his closest school aged friends. He wasn’t known as Barry Soetoro to anyone else at Punahou either.

    If someone told you that he was ever known as Barry Soetoro by his friends at Punahou, they clearly were not at Punahou during that time and it is highly unlikely that they ever knew Obama. I object to his policies, but a correct record of such things is better than an error.

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  65. Priss Factor [AKA "soccer murder"] says:

    http://online.wsj.com/articles/soccer-blitzkrieg-1404863279

    Why don’t WSJ just go all out and call it a soccer holocaust?

    Must WSJ resort to these dirty innuendos?

    Okay, next time South Africa wins, call it a soccer mass rape since South Africa is the rape capital of the world.

    And if Israel ever wins, call it a soccer Nakba or soccer Great Famine since Jews ethnically cleansed the Palestinians and played a key role in the mass killing of Christian Slavs in the USSR.

    And if US ever wins, call it soccer genocide of the Indians, soccer Hiroshima, or something.

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  66. Nick Diaz says:

    “For awhile, Neymar was dying his beard stubble blond:

    http://africasacountry.com/neymar-and-race-in-brazil/

    He’s a handsome young fellow who has recently come into a lot of money and he’s using it to play around with his looks. In the U.S., we associate male celebrities transitioning from a fairly black affect to a fairly white affect with either incompetence (Sammy Sosa) or sexual weirdness and obsession (Michael Jackson). But here’s a man who has pulled it off with aplomb, which I suspect has something to do with how well-developed these whitening methodologies are in Brazil.”

    But this does not mean that it was motivated by feelings of racial inadequacy. The article your linked is an opinion, nothing more. Again, causality and correletion are not conceptually synonymous. His beard is dark again. People who undergo these techniques are looking for a permanent result, and when that is not possible, such as in the case of hair follicules, they keep at it for life. Again; this is just a fashion. It is fashionable for young men in Europe to dye their beards in various shades of light color.

    I lived in Brazil for 6 years, and I never heard about or saw any dark man who straightened their hair or bleached their skin. Never! Young men who do that are extremely anomalous compared to the average of young men there. Some dark women do straighten their hair, but even among the women very few go the extremes of bleaching. The MEN who straighten their hair for racially related reasons are few and far between, and the men who bleach their skin are pretty much non-existent.

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  67. Marcio says:
    @syonredux
    marcio:"No, ti’s not untrue. Come to Brazil and try to find ANY product to white your skin on the supermarket or any cosmetic store. You won’t find, period. It’s just not used here."

    Nobody's talking about over-the-counter products. Neymar went to a plastic surgeon to have his skin lightened. His plastic surgeon was just a lot better than Sammy Sosa's.

    marcio:"The Anita “controversy”is as stupid as the Neymar one.

    Some silly foreigners saw some pictures of her tanned (as a girl with mixed ancestry, like me, she can get really dark) and some pictures of her natural color and decided she was whitening her skin."

    Or maybe they just saw what you are not willing to see?

    Dude, plastic surgery is super common here in Brazil and it’s not a taboo to talk about it, unlike in the USA. People openly talk about having nose jobs, putting implants on their boobs, etc…

    Having that in mind, I NEVER, EVER heard or read about plastic surgery to have your skin lightened in Brazil. It’s just not common here.

    And if Neymar did such thing, then the surgeon is a pretty bad one: Neymar is still not fair skinned at all. He’s still dark for Brazilians standards. He’s “moreno”, not “branco”.

    And repeating what I said about mixed race people (which includes myself): we can tan A LOT, even if we are fair skinned. If you saw a picture of me when I was a kid (very dark kid, darker than Neymar as kid because I played a lot outside in the sun) and a picture of me now (typical mediterranean white, think Cristiano Ronaldo) you would probably say that I had my skin lightened too.

    The same applies to Anita.

    And no, I’m not just “not willing to see”. Because there is nothing to see here other than some silly foreigners not understanding that mixed-race people with african ancestry can get a much deeper tan than non-mixed people.

    If you really wanna pick something that Brazilians do to hide their African ancestry, I can give you that: hair straightening. THAT’S super common in Brazil and its popularity does have a element of racial shaming. Most people want to avoid what they call “cabelo de negro” (black’s hair) or, even more racist, “Bad hair”(Cabelo Ruim).

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  68. bomag [AKA "doombuggy"] says:

    causality and correl(a)tion are not conceptually synonymous.

    That explains a lot about Nick Diaz.

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  69. Nick Diaz says:

    @doombuggy

    “That explains a lot about Nick Diaz.”

    Right. So after having typed hundreds of paragraphs of text, at 3:00 AM in the morning, I make a mistake in orthography. This is supposed to prove what? Maybe if you weren’t such a spiteful dumbass and could make good arguments, you wouldn’t need to point out occasional spelling mistakes made by your opponents in debates to try appearing smarter than they are. Because you are not.

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  70. Nick Diaz says:

    Steve Sailer, Neymar has NOT bleached his skin, and his straightened hair is most likely just a fashion statement. Again, explain all the WHITE teenage boys in America and Europe who straighten their hair so they can get emo haircuts? His beard is black again. Riddle me that?

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  71. @Marcio
    The "funky straight bangs" are associated with "Emo" guys in Brazil, not Asians.

    By the way, Japanese-Brazilians do mix a lot. They are found mostly in two States (São Paulo and Paraná. I'm from the latter) where by the second and third generation more than half are mixed and they rarely speak Japanese.

    One example of a famous Japanese-brazilian is Sabrina Sato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Sato

    I’m a fan of Lyoto Machida:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyoto_Machida

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  72. Jefferson says:

    “Germans could be purist in their goodness and badness. They could be purist in their idea of race: commit 100% to radical racism or commit 100% to multi-culturalism(and racial suicide). Germans like to do things right, which is why they can be very good or very bad.

    In contrast, Italians can only be 50% for anything. So, they can’t be extremely bad(like the Nazis during WWII) but they can’t be extremely good either. They can’t be 100% race-purist but also not 100% crazy about multu-culturalism like the purist ideologues of Germanic/Scandinavian nations. It’s just their nature.”

    I admit I am attracted to Nonwhite women, especially if it is Asian women and Multiracial women. At the same time I do not want open borders, amnesty, and affirmative action either.

    So I am not a 100% race purist and at the same time I am not 100% crazy about multiculturalism either.

    It must be the Mediterranean in me since I am Sicilian.

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  73. syonredux says:

    marcio:”Dude, plastic surgery is super common here in Brazil and it’s not a taboo to talk about it, unlike in the USA. People openly talk about having nose jobs, putting implants on their boobs, etc…

    Having that in mind, I NEVER, EVER heard or read about plastic surgery to have your skin lightened in Brazil. It’s just not common here.”

    Funny, I know a Brazilian plastic surgeon (he lives in CA now); he’s told me quite a bit about high-end skin lightening procedures in Brazil. Fascinating stuff.

    Marcio:”And if Neymar did such thing, then the surgeon is a pretty bad one: Neymar is still not fair skinned at all. He’s still dark for Brazilians standards. He’s “moreno”, not “branco”.”

    Actually, that’s a sign of quality. Sammy Sosa’s extreme bleach job left him looking like a freak. Neymar’s more subtle skin lightening treatments, in contrast, have left him looking like a normal person.My Brazilian plastic surgeon buddy tells me that he is quite impressed with the quality of the work.

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  74. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Lots of people have mentioned Michael Jackson and skin bleaching, I guess the two kind of go hand in hand these days. However, I’d like to point out that Michael Jackson actually suffered from vitiligo (confirmed in his autopsy), a skin pigmentation disorder which in his case seemed to be the type that spreads. He most likely did bleach the parts of his skin that weren’t affected, but who knows if he would have ever bleached if not for the condition.

    Myself, I’m North European white and have mild vitiligo (my dad does too), basically just scattered white spots that don’t spread and if anything seem to be going away as I get older. However, if the affected areas would begin to expand I’d probably stay out of the sun, too, and I might start bleaching the rest of me as well if I were darker. While it’s easy enough to accept a few white spots here and there, being completely mottled is just not a good look for anyone, frankly.

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  75. What about the millions of WHITE teenage boys who straighten their hair to so they can have “emo” haircuts?

    LOL – what?

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  76. Bill M says:

    Most Brazilians who go for cosmetic surgery do so to look either as prettier version of an ambiguous mixed-raced person (typical), or to look more white Caucasian. Some U.S. American journalists like to talk about “butt injections” but from my experience in Brazil, almost nobody wants to look Amerindian (underclass) or Black African (underclass).

    Well I don’t think Brazilians who are into big butts and who try to have big butts think of it as trying to “look Black African”. But they tend to be an African phenotype and the preference for them tends to be an African cultural preference that is much more normal and widespread in Brazil than it is many other areas.

    The Brazilian preference for big butts has been noted for a long time, even before media stories on butt injections.

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  77. iSteveFan says:

    What about the millions of WHITE teenage boys who straighten their hair to so they can have “emo” haircuts?

    Obviously I’ve seen some whites with naturally curly hair, but most whites I’ve encountered already have straight hair. If anything whites, at least woman, use gadgets to curl their hair. So how are you coming up with millions of white boys straightening their already straight hair?

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  78. bomag [AKA "doombuggy"] says:

    For the record, Nick Diaz, I was not remarking on your spelling.

    To say that correlation and causation are not synonymous is a big conceptual error, and it is an error that explains a lot of where you come from on these matters.

    Your confidence in your positions exceeds your ability. That is pretty obvious, but you are fun to have around just for the object lessons.

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  79. Svigor says:

    Nick, you come across as mentally unstable. You act the grievously wounded party when someone makes a crack about your typos, but you accuse people left and right of having “shit for brains” or of being “morons” simply for having different ideas than you do.

    Are you on meds? What’s your psych history?

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