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For some time, I’ve been impressed with the tweets of a grad student named Zach Goldberg, who creates some of the more illuminating graphs about The Current Year. Zach now has a general article in The Tablet on his quantitative findings on The Great Awokening:

AMERICA’S WHITE SAVIORS
White liberals are leading a ‘woke’ revolution that is transforming American politics and making Democrats increasingly uneasy with Jewish political power

By Zach Goldberg
June 5, 2019 • 9:30 PM

A sea change has taken place in American political life. The force driving this change is the digital era style of moral politics known as “wokeness,” a phenomenon that has become pervasive in recent years and yet remains elusive as even experts struggle to give it a clear definition and accurately measure its impact. Where did it come from? What do its adherents believe? Is it just something happening inside the Twitter bubble and on college campuses or is it really spreading across the social and cultural landscape and transforming the country as sometimes appears to be the case? In reality, “wokeness”—a term that originated in black popular culture—is a broad euphemism for a more narrow phenomenon: the rapidly changing political ideology of white liberals that is remaking American politics.

Over the past decade, the baseline attitudes expressed by white liberals on racial and social justice questions have become radically more liberal. In one especially telling example of the broader trend, white liberals recently became the only demographic group in America to display a pro-outgroup bias—meaning that among all the different groups surveyed white liberals were the only one that expressed a preference for other racial and ethnic communities above their own. As woke ideology has accelerated, a white liberal minority has pulled away from the average opinions held by the rest of the coalition of Democratic voters—including minority groups in the party. The revolution in moral sentiment among this one segment of American voters has led to a cascade of consequences ranging from changes in the norms and attitudes expressed in media and popular culture, to the adoption of new political rhetoric and electoral strategies of the Democratic Party. Nor has this occurred in a vacuum on the left as the initiatives set in motion by white liberals have, in turn, provoked responses and countermeasures from conservatives and Republicans.

In a recent Vox article based partly on the dissertation research I’ve been doing as a Ph.D. candidate in political science at Georgia State University, Matthew Yglesias described this ongoing transformation as “The Great Awokening.” In Yglesias’ account: “In the past five years, white liberals have moved so far to the left on questions of race and racism that they are now, on these issues, to the left of even the typical black voter. This change amounts to a ‘Great Awokening.’” There is no simple or single explanation for how this process got started. It appears to be driven by an interplay of factors: preexisting tendencies among white liberals; a series of polarizing events like the police shooting of Michael Brown and subsequent riots in Ferguson, and the migrant crisis; the rise of millenials as a political force, and the explosion of social media and “woke” clickbait journalism. The years between 2012 and 2016 were a watershed for white liberal racial consciousness. But the seismic attitudinal shifts of those years have implications that go beyond race: They are also tied to a significant decrease in support for Israel and—perhaps more surprisingly—a rise in the number of white liberals who express negative attitudes about the perceived political power of American Jews.

As white liberals have come to place far greater emphasis on racial injustice, they have also endorsed reparative race-related social policies in greater numbers. This is evident across a range of issues: the rapid growth in white liberals who favor affirmative action for blacks in the labor force; in the increase in white liberals who feel that we spend too little on helping blacks, and that the government should afford them special treatment; in the increase in white Democrats who think it’s the government’s job to ensure “equal income across all races”; and in the increase in white liberals and Democrats who think that white people have ‘too much’ political influence.

At the same time, there are growing levels of support for policies without such obvious connections to race. For instance, between 1965 and 2000, the percentage of white liberals preferring increased immigration levels never deviated far from 10%. From the mid-2000s to roughly the end of President Obama’s term in office, this figure gradually ascended into the 20-30% range. As of 2018, it sits at over 50%. Then, there is the marked shift in attitudes toward Israel. Between 1978 and 2014, white liberals consistently reported sympathizing more with Israel than the Palestinians. Since March of 2016, this trend has turned on its face: Significantly more white liberals now report greater sympathy for the Palestinians than for Israel.

Some of these changes arguably stem from Trump’s rhetoric and policies on immigration. But a glance at the data shows that, as with their attitudes toward blacks, the percentage of white liberals perceiving “a lot” or “a great deal” of discrimination against immigrants more than doubled between 2000 (29%) and 2013 (57%)—i.e., well before Trump arrived on the scene. Additionally, between 2006 and 2014, the percentage of white liberals saying they feel “very sympathetic” toward illegal immigrants and their families grew from 22% to 42%.

 
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  1. As woke ideology has accelerated, a white liberal minority has pulled away from the average opinions held by the rest of the coalition of Democratic voters—including minority groups in the party.

    Though it may not be popular to say so here, I’ve seen arguments between white liberals and black moderates where the black voices are saying some form of “Can’t we all get along?” and the white voices are saying “No Way! We must punish white people harder!”

  2. eah says:

    There is no simple or single explanation for how this process got started.

    “LOL” — when it becomes more or less a binary choice between being labelled a Gutmensch or a Nazi, no one should be surprised when large numbers of the politically conscious/active choose Gutmensch.

    And the most recent YouJewtube purge shows unequivocally how what is seen as Nazism is continually being more broadly defined.

    • Replies: @eah
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
  3. LondonBob says:

    Intensification of media propaganda in recent years, but at its root I would say the increasingly radical campus environment and the increase in the number of people attending university.

    • Agree: Bruce County
  4. jon says:

    more than doubled between 2000 (29%) and 2013 (57%)

    Missed it by that much

  5. The woke elite act like white saviors who must lead the rest of the country, including the racial minorities whose interests they claim to represent, to a vision of justice the less enlightened groups would not choose for themselves.

    Yes, he’s nailed it: Substitute Savior Syndrome.

    White liberals think that it’s their job to save the world, and that they’re more than qualified to do so. And they obviously know what’s best for everyone — especially for the poor oppressed people they’re saving.

    It’s a good article.

    • Agree: Ibound1
  6. ‘Is it good for the Jews?’; his main interest

    • Replies: @Larry, San Francisco
  7. the socialist agenda going on the last 5 decades or so is at a turning point in history……if democrats take over in 2020……just might cement the change from capitalist society to socialist one.
    making more “white liberals” was one of those target points and what better way to change a society than through the education system…..get ’em when their young and indoctrinate them.
    pray that the in-fighting among democrats for power blows up in their face.
    GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  8. Lurker says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Surely these people, the NPCs, the Outer Party, the Red Guards aren’t actually making policy except at a low-level. They have been unleashed so tptb can feign a passive response – while doing that which they wanted to all along.

    • Replies: @IHTG
  9. OT, sort of:

    ‘Becky about to get her wig split!’ Beyonce’s FURIOUS reaction to a woman cutting across her to chat to Jay Z goes viral as fans admit they would ‘leave earth if she looked this ready to smack’

    The ‘Becky’ is the wife of the Golden State Warriors’ owner. According to the DM:

    The Crazy In Love hitmaker’s fuming reaction – which sees her smile turn to a frown as she patiently waits for the conversation to be over – has quickly gone viral and spawned a series of meme’s likening Nicole to ‘Becky with the good hair.’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7111185/Beyonces-FURIOUS-reaction-woman-cutting-chat-Jay-Z-goes-viral.html

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  10. Lurker says:

    Of course were the roles reversed we’d be hearing about the raycisms. Instead the mouth breathers exult in Beyonce’s apparent entitlement.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  11. Anatoly Karlin points out that the Amish and Mormons are going to demographically dominate in the next few decades. I don’t think the lefty woke abortion-fans are going to produce many grandchildren. It’s ironic that they taunt their enemies by gleefully mentioning that whites are becoming a minority, when their militancy is probably related to their demographic decline.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  12. @Lurker

    Queen Bey oughta be watchin her man ‘coz he the one with a propensity to stray….

  13. @Mr McKenna

    Once they got their greasy grips on the “white privilege” cudgel, it’s been full steam ahead on the wokeness train.

  14. IHTG says:
    @Lurker

    Pssst…what if there is nobody in charge and it’s rudderless hacks all the way down

    • Replies: @Lurker
  15. anonymous[579] • Disclaimer says:

    Welcome to the end of the second decade of the the 21st century Zach. Israel’s best and last friends are white Republican gentile American men in their 60’s and 70’s who honestly believe it’s still 1990.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    , @Harry Baldwin
  16. El Dato says:

    The basic problem is the use of the pronoun “we” in this article. Who is “we” and are “we” the same?

    “In the past five years, white liberals have moved so far to the left on questions of race and racism that they are now, on these issues, to the left of even the typical black voter. This change amounts to a ‘Great Awokening.’”

    That has nothing to do with “leftism”. More like politicial BDSM activities.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  17. The primary political accomplishment of Wokeness so far has been the election of Donald Trump.

    And it just might get him re-elected. I’d vote for Biden over Trump in a heartbeat, if I knew that Biden was going to enact the sensible, moderate, pro blue collar policies he’s supported most of his career. But there’s no way in hell I’d vote for a Biden that is a Trojan horse for the radical, totalitarian far left wing of the Democratic Party that Wokeness represents.

  18. L Woods says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Great — we’ll start with them.

  19. L Woods says:

    Rapid dogs. Only one thing to be done with them.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  20. “In reality, “wokeness”—a term that originated in black popular culture—is a broad euphemism for a more narrow phenomenon: the rapidly changing political ideology of white liberals that is remaking American politics.”

    That would be incorrect the term is derived from the references in scripture to one who becomes awake to the truth of God. To the extent that blacks have a rich biblical tradition the adaption might be apt.

    But the origins of the concept is originally a “black thing”.

  21. But the seismic attitudinal shifts of those years have implications that go beyond race: They are also tied to a significant decrease in support for Israel and—perhaps more surprisingly—a rise in the number of white liberals who express negative attitudes about the perceived political power of American Jews.

    I guess every dark cloud has a silver lining.

  22. I read as much as I could of Zach Goldberg’s very long article. Noticed this in it: “In fact, multiple recent studies find no racial disparities in police use of deadly force. The odds of an unarmed black person being shot by police appear to approximate his/her chance of being struck by lightning. The probability of being killed by a right-wing extremist is equally low, if not lower.”

    • Replies: @Forbes
  23. @Mr McKenna

    Why would it not be popular to say here? I’ve seen it too.

    • Replies: @donut
  24. So to sum up the article: Gentile white liberals are becoming “Bad for the Jews” because being dumb gentiles they actually believed all of the propaganda fed to them by Jews so now Jews need to do something to slow down said gentile white liberals before they start causing problems for Jews.

    It’s so hard to find good help these days.

  25. @Mr McKenna

    You are not wrong. Plenty of Black Americans want nothing more than to just “get along.” Those appear at least not to hate White Americans, but rather seem to want to just be friendly. I worked in and supervised groups of office workers that included Blacks off-and-on for about two decades, and that was my experience.

    One even invited me to her church and for dinner with her family. I went. She was my supervisor.

    Political leaders and other types are just pouring gasoline on a fire, or throwing matches on dry tinder that otherwise would not ignite.

    • Agree: JimDandy, HammerJack
    • Replies: @David
    , @Ed
  26. the increase in white liberals and Democrats who think that white people have ‘too much’ political influence

    These people unquestionably do have too much political influence. Let’s take it away from them.

    Democrats should pay reparations for what their party has done. Maybe they’ll go the way of the Whigs, which is long overdue.

  27. “There is no simple or single explanation for how this process got started.”

    How about: inchoate, and cynically manipulated, response to the ongoing disaster of post-[anti-]Civil Rights, post-mass immigration, post-1960s libertinist societies?

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  28. @jon

    Safe bet: Zach’s Math SAT was at least 50 points lower than his Verbal SAT.

  29. ewoke says:

    Something for you to brag about, Steve: this White German serial killer leveraged his superior White intelligence and organization skills to murder some 200 people

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/06/world/europe/germany-nurse-serial-killer.html

  30. MEH 0910 says:
    @jon

    Missed it by that much

    • Replies: @anon
  31. teo toon says:

    Yes, let’s get those Tikkun Olam “White Saviors” working on the real Whites; they already have been working on being (((saviors))) for the White people: they’re called Neo-cons, banksters, Hollywood moguls, and (((intellectuals))).

    I doubt Steve will allow this published.

    • Replies: @Normie-American
  32. Abe says:

    Regardless of whether Helter Skelter was real or simply a concoction of Vincent Bugliosi’s imagination, Charles Manson will prove the most influential sociologist and political theorist of the 21st Century, just as Marx was of the 20th- a small elite will rule after whites lose to blacks because a sizable enough minority of whites would rather slit their childrens’ throats than be seen as raciss!

    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  33. Ah, the silver lining: the wokesters wise up about Israel. Can’t wait to see the social media monopolies de-platforming all the progs who complain about “brave” Israeli soldiers murdering little kids in Gaza.

  34. Steve

    More Monty Python News:

    Monty Python’s Michael Palin…”Immigration has done the Country an enormous amount of good”…..Yahoo news…

    Read the comments…a lot of disgust towards Palin in the comments…..

    By the way…Michael Palin was involved with resettling African Muslim Refugees into England….

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  35. Ragno says:

    Christianity: first assaulted, then ‘modified’, and finally discarded – for a new belief system carefully rebuilt from the old Aztec human-sacrifice model.

    All is religion – never mind the squawking of Professional Atheists, who are just its high priests in civvies.

  36. Anonymous[137] • Disclaimer says:

    The New York Times David Brooks: Jews are not White

  37. jb says:

    Wow, Tablet makes you pay to comment, or even read the comments. And it’s not cheap either: $180/year! Wave of the future?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  38. Ben H says:

    How many of the “leader” white liberal class are Jews though, taking out their feelings of anti-Christian racism against the people the anti-defamation league is saying is their oppressor?

    There is that meme: “Every Single Time” which means that every single time you see a person identifying generic white people or Christians in particular as uniquely evil it is a Jewish person doing it. So if there is a bogus study “proving” that white people are uniquely likely to commit serious crimes or that Christians need porn in their lives not to mention the endless clickbait articles (from well funded mainstream media sources) etc ad infinitum … and wouldn’t you guess it more often than not…

    At the same time, everybody except Jews sees Jews as white, so the anti-white racism encouraged by liberal Jews and Jewish institutions in general is in a sense soiling their own nest.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  39. eugyppius says:

    It’s like we are experiencing colonialism 2.0. Once upon a time the game was to invade the world, bring the savages to Christianity, the classic white man’s burden stuff. France and England led the charge. Church ladies collected donations for bible distribution. Now we’re inviting the world obviously, Anglophone nations are again at the forefront of this lunacy, because it the job of Europe to save everybody. Only the home countries are the focus of attention, rather than the third world; and the church ladies are horrible people with multicolored hair and unusual gender fantasies who may also be collecting donations but mainly lead twitter crusades against wrongthought.

    • Replies: @anon
  40. Polymath says:
    @jon

    It could’ve gone from 28.6% to 57.4%.

  41. Davosbane says: • Website

    I wouldnt feel sympathy for jews if this transformation fully occurred in the democrat party. They have in large part been cheerleaders of this type of thing. Blow back would be karma.

  42. David says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    And Zach Goldberg knows this as well as anyone but chooses to call it “a series of polarizing events” instead of “intentionally polarizing events.”

  43. Neuday says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Isn’t Substitute Savior Syndrome just another way of saying Tikkun Olam? Isn’t the reason these people want to play Substitute Savior is because they reject the savior already given?

  44. There’s a big to-do over animal abuse at Fair Oaks Farms. But nothing about the origin of the abusers. Somehow the videos miss their faces.

    Abusers were fired, but not arrested. (Can’t have their names made public. Especially if they end in a Z.)

    The sheer size of the “barns” is evidence this is no family operation.

    https://www.wfla.com/national/graphic-dairy-farm-accused-of-animal-cruelty/2056049439

  45. Rob Lee says:

    The easy way to address this issue is to employ a version of an old Heartiste trick: Agree and Amplify.

    “Hey Ultra-Progressive Liberal Youth! You’re not ideologically pure enough if you don’t invite an actual black or illegal immigrant in to your apartment posthaste and shelter them from the manipulative evil white conservative!”

    Direct exposure will either convert or kill them… problem solved.

    • Agree: George Taylor
  46. PSR says:

    I’m afraid the white leftists are going to get their wishes good and hard. Too bad the rest of us will have to suffer too. The unwhiting of America is going to far more calamitous than the wokening.

  47. @jon

    Doubling a percentage is a tricky business. Arguably, twice 29% is %48.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  48. Transforming America? How about destroying America! Is the goal to shift the blame for the destruction from Jewish power to white liberals? I’m sceptical of any Goldberg when it comes to holding the tribe accountable. Of course white liberals are driving the bus!

  49. eah says:
    @eah

    And the most recent YouJewtube purge shows unequivocally how what is seen as Nazism is continually being more broadly defined.

  50. Ed says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I wonder if it has to do with the declining importance of religion among white liberals? That this SJW nonsense has taken the place of religion and they are it’s true believers out to stamp out any heretics.

  51. Travis says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Since Obama the “woke” democrats have gained influence in the democratic party and the media. This is partly due to the great recession and the effect it had on young Americans, who could not find work , thus they remained in school longer getting further indoctrinated or getting part time jobs which demoralized them.. If jobs were available many of these “woke” grads would have been working and thus not wasting their time slacking with fellow progressives. These crazy ideologies generally take hold over our youth when they are not able to find good jobs and spouses. If the economy was doing better more would be working and raising families and abandon the “woke” philosophy they learned in school. Having children always makes parents more conservative. But the number of 30 year-olds who are married with children today is just 20%. In 1980 40% of 30 year-olds were married with children. Married parents do not have time to be woke, and quickly realize how absurd the woke ideology is when they are raising children.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  52. anon[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Over the course of his Senate career, Biden was generally at or about the 25 most liberal members of the Senate. “I was always labeled as one of the most liberal members of the United States Congress.” – Joe Biden.

    But Biden’s fealty to corporate power has been one aspect of his many-faceted record that working class people will widely find repugnant. Biden has always supported the Big Banks and corporations over the workers. Biden worked diligently to strengthen the hand of credit-card firms against consumers. At the same time, “the credit card giant MBNA was Biden’s largest contributor for much of his Senate career, while also employing his son Hunter as an executive. “I don’t think five hundred billionaires are the reason we’re in trouble. The folks at the top aren’t bad guys.”- Joe Biden, I suppose the bad guys are the deplorables who voted for Trump

    Biden did more than any other Democratic senator to greenlight the 2003 invasion of Iraq. During the lead-up to that vote, in 2002, as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, he presided over sham hearings — refusing to allow experts who opposed an invasion to get any words in edgewise.

    Biden is also a longtime champion of NAFTA, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and China’s admission into the World Trade Organization. Senator Biden pursued all three of those trade policies over the near-unanimous opposition of organized labor.

    Biden opposes funding for the wall, supports amnesty for all 15 million illegal aliens currently living in America. Biden: Turning away refugees ‘would play right into terrorists’ hands’. Senator Biden was the chief sponsor of the Refugee Act of 1979, which Carter signed it in to law in 1980.. The main objectives of the act were to expand the definition of refugee and raise the limitation from 17,000 to 50,000 refugees admitted each year and provide emergency procedures for when that number exceeds 50,000 and giving power to the president to raise the limit at any time for any reason.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    , @Marty T
  53. The Z Blog says: • Website

    The lack of self-awareness by fellow whites is breathtaking. Even after thirty years of noticing it, I’m still taken aback by it.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  54. Ibound1 says:

    To our host: You need to write a book with this guy Goldberg.

  55. Who Is Wokachu?

    I didn’t pay too much attention to the Pokémon phenomenon, so I don’t know the specifics. But I do remember the main character was Pikachu, so the main character of Wokémon must be Wokachu. But who is this character? I’m guessing maybe a black transgender Somali muslim, but I’m not sure. Any ideas?

    • LOL: fish
    • Replies: @Forbes
  56. @Reg Cæsar

    There’s no good reason to blur the faces in the video.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  57. @Reg Cæsar

    Farmers seem to play a big role in the destruction of America.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  58. @eah

    “…There is no simple or single explanation for how this process got started….”

    To supplerment your comment on this facially absurd satement I offer the following two articles as a red pill on the path to wokeness:

    ttps://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/09/23/modify-the-standards-of-the-in-group-on-jews-and-mass-communications-part-one-of-two/

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/09/25/modify-the-standards-of-the-in-group-on-jews-and-mass-communications-part-two-of-two/

    A more complete guide for the perplexed is available here:

    https://www.unz.com/book/kevin_macdonald__the-culture-of-critique/

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  59. GU says:

    I get the distinct feeling that Mr. Goldberg wouldn’t be able to publish such things if he were getting his Ph.D. at an Ivy League institution.

  60. Rational says:

    DON’T BELIEVE THE LIES…..OF THE LYING SCAMMING JUDAIST.

    For Judaists, lying is Job 1.

    To promote sickness and depravity, they use the same dirty tricks:

    a. Give it a good name. Now it is “wokeness”, not libthuggery.

    b. Tell people that EVERYBODY IS DOING IT. And you are the only one who is not buying into our liberal scam.

    I bet the “white people” he claims are more left than left are….Judaists!!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  61. @Reg Cæsar

    I’m glad you posted this. I linked to the article earlier from the Drudge Report and immediately noticed that all the more egregious acts of cruelty in the attached video were most definitely committed by Indios, more than likely here illegally and working illegally. For their corporate paymasters to claim, as they do, that they were shocked and unaware of what was going on is laughable at best.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  62. Whiskey says: • Website

    Yes declining religion but also dynasties– make sure their families crush yours deplorables. And also sex market. Young White women hate most of their male peers for the unforgivable sin of beta.

    This is why every sensible society restricts women. Look at College. Nothing but gays and blue haired feminists as far as the eye can see. Animal House to Woke House.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Sean
  63. swamped says:

    How much can you trust an ambitious grad student looking for a job as a paid pundit? Hopefully Zach isn’t related to Jonah Goldberg, two of them would be more than anyone could stand. The Tablet is a typical Jewish-centric rag so the angle here appears more to be the threat to Jewish power – which really wouldn’t be such a bad thing – which surfaced a couple of times in the mishmash of other topics skimmed over in the article. Other than that, there’s not much new here. It’s been clear for some time that white liberal SJW’s have been frothing at the mouth over race in increasingly irrational ways. Along with their rabid zeal for homosexuality & trans(de)genderism weirdity. They’re always seeking to outdo one another in their virtue-signaling. But in the process may be their own demise.

  64. JimDandy says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Yeah, you’re absolutely right.

  65. @NJ Transit Commuter

    ” I’d vote for Biden over Trump in a heartbeat”

    At least you have the guts to openly admit that you are insane.

    AJM, “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US ary vet, and pro Jazz artisit.

  66. @Abe

    As a world traveler, probably moreso than anyone posting here, I will state that liberals/leftists, whatever, are all closet racists, and they are consumed with the project of hiding this fact.

    AJM

  67. JimDandy says:

    When the group tied for the group you hate the most–progressives–recognizes the evil of the other group you hate the most–Zionists.

    It feeds into the conspiracy theory that Zionists act as agent provocateurs to radicalize progressives to such an extent that mainstream America rejects ALL of their positions. The new breed of Anti-SJW alternative pop stars (Gavin McInnes, Milo, Candace Owen, etc.) all obsequiously worship Israel.

    • Agree: utu
  68. I’d say there are two things at work.

    First is the Reign of Terror aspect. The welfare state/socialism was supposed to have brought on paradise for the workers. It didn’t. The sexual/civil rights revolution was supposed to have brought on paradise for women and minorities. It didn’t. When prophecy fails, the first instinct of the believers is to amp it up.

    Then there is the Erich Hoffer aspect, that every movement turns into a business or a racket because the leaders of the movement would lose their jobs if they told everyone to go home.

    • Replies: @95Theses
    , @Travis
  69. @jon

    “more than doubled between 2000 (29%) and 2013 (57%)”

    How can this be true? By roundoff. The original number x lies between 28.5 and 29.5, so its double, 2x, lies between 57 and 59. Meanwhile, the final number y lies between 56.5 and 57.5. Two number that satisfy both these conditions are x=28.6 and y=57.3 , making 2x=57.2 < 57.3=y, where y is more than double x. Q.E.D.

    • LOL: Alfa158, Bruce County
    • Replies: @Alfa158
  70. Spangel says:

    I wonder if the rise of aggressive wokeness is actually prompted by the comparitive rise of their opposition. It used to be that we had no internet blogs and public criticism of the establishment at large. So it didn’t take much denial to believe whatever the establishment media said. Now criticism is out in the open and some of it is good, so sjw denial mechanisms are in overdrive. It’s a constant push for purity where challenging facts are aggressively shamed since it’s harder to outright censor them.

  71. Once the huge influx of Muslim immigrants (both legal and those now simply illegally walking across an unsecured Mexican border) get settled in we can expect many more in politics that the 2 we currently have in Congress. Given the startling power we see the 2 newcomers have, adding more will give them a very powerful block of anti-Israeli political power. The first huge target will be our long term relationship with Israel. Support for Palestinians will florish and the multi-faceted financial and military support currently given to jewish Israel will be attacked: including large American-jewish donations to politicians and Americans having dual citizenship (and even serving in congress). The plot, as they say, is certainly thickening.

    • Replies: @Alden
  72. @Ed

    No, people are just gullible and stupid and easily manipulated.

    The Moral Majority was at its height in the 1980s but did nothing when the law was changed to make almost all student loans non-bankruptable. The lie in the media, mostly talk radio, was that doctors and lawyers were defaulting on their loans. In truth, I believe the student loan default rate back then was 1 percent. Even if it was much higher, bankruptcy is a biblical concept and Christians, not just the Moral Majority, should have fought to keep student loans bankruptable, especially when you consider that most people first enter into student loan debt at 17, before the age of consent.

    I am not bright. I could never understand how people couldn’t see through nonsense like A Nation at Risk, NAFTA, and welfare queens or allow one person/company to own hundreds of media outlets or let profitable steel companies fire thousands of workers right before they became vested in their pensions.

  73. @Triumph104

    You’re brighter than these bozos.

    And yeah, Christianity ain’t what it used to be.

    The founder of socialist health care in Canada, a great national hero, was a Christian socialist. There were lots of them back then. But that was before TV preachers and Fox.

    Not that ID politics SJWs aren’t evil. They are. And they have nothing to do with socialism. In fact, they are anti-socialism, so some of you glibertarians ought to hitch your wagon to their star.

    Nope. Class not race.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  74. When all is said and done, Trump’s greatest accomplishments might just be the following:

    1) The visceral reaction to all things Trump from the left led them to complete lunacy, thus allowing the centrists in the country to see for themselves what the loony left is doing to the country, from support for illegal immigration to punitive race hustling to Russian hoax. This leads to infighting among the left as the far left progressives pull themselves further away from the moderates.

    2) By focusing on personal attacks against Trump, the DNC has shown they have zero ideas on how to govern or run the country. All they know how to do is attack Trump. Their 2020 campaigns are all in disarray as they try to take each other out with no ideas except how much they hate Trump.

    3) Trump and the GOP’s overt pandering to Israel finally woke most conservatives up to the Zionists’ hijacking of the conservative movement. This also leads to a split in the right btwn the endless-war and endless-immigration establishment GOP and the no-more-war and no-more-immigration nationalists (Ann Coulter, Kris Kobach).

    And his most important accomplishment of all:

    4) He woke us up to the existence of the Deep State, the globalist elites and the Jew World Order they are hellbent on imposing on the world.

  75. @Triumph104

    The baby boomer attack on young people using the student loan debt bomb weapon is evil and immoral.

    The baby boomers are evil and immoral and they are money-grubbing scum.

    The evil treasonous rats born before 1965 will rot and burn in Hell.

    I wrote this in January of 2019 on the student loan debt bomb:

    What if the student loan debt bubble scam was cooked up bankers and puppet politicians such as Bill Clinton to massively increase debt to provide more ability for shady shysters to clam rake out some cash before the whole damn thing came down in a crash?

    I thought it was understood by Unz Review types that financialization was a frigging swindle from the get-go? The baby boomers got the jobs and the graft from the student loan debt bubble and the bankers got the profit on the loans. Construction cads built crap like gangbusters on all the student loan debt and they loved it. A lot of money-grubbers were grabbing the cash from student loans and they loved it.

    The answer to the student loan debt bubble is to implode the debt by immediate debt repudiations and money printing. There was always going to be a currency crisis anyway after the monetary extremism starting in 2008, so it might as well start now. The Deep State can coordinate with China and Japan and Europe to simultaneously implode the value of global currencies. The baby boomers will be financially liquidated, but they have been the beneficiary of all the unpayable debt anyway.

    The Fed could take all the repudiated student loan debt onto its balance sheet like they took all the toxic mortgage-backed securities.

    All student loan debt — whether paid or unpaid — should be redeemed back to students who took out the debt. Every penny ever borrowed for student loans should be sent back to the students who took out the loans and paid them. All unpayed student loan debt should be repudiated with extreme prejudice.

    Raise The Fed Funds Rate To 6 Percent Now, DAMMIT!

    Global Financial Implosion In 2019 — Cancel All Debts!

    But the baby boomers are counting on dumb boobs paying all that debt? Tough Cookies!

    • Replies: @Olorin
    , @donut
  76. istevefan says:

    But the seismic attitudinal shifts of those years have implications that go beyond race: They are also tied to a significant decrease in support for Israel and—perhaps more surprisingly—a rise in the number of white liberals who express negative attitudes about the perceived political power of American Jews.

    I realize this is in Tablet, but it seems like another “What’s good for the Jews” sort of story.

    White liberals make up 20-24% of the general population but, for a multitude of reasons, exert an outsize political and cultural influence. They are more likely to consider themselves activists, are more active on social media, and, significantly, they are one of the most affluent groups in the country. …

    To point this out is not an indictment of white liberals as a group or of the moral psychology that drives them..

    There is another group that makes up even less of the general population, but for a multitude of reasons, exerts an outsize political and cultural influence. Of course pointing this out is usually considered an indictment of them as a group or of the moral psychology that drives them.

    At the same time, there are growing levels of support for policies without such obvious connections to race. For instance, between 1965 and 2000, the percentage of white liberals preferring increased immigration levels never deviated far from 10%. From the mid-2000s to roughly the end of President Obama’s term in office, this figure gradually ascended into the 20-30% range. As of 2018, it sits at over 50%. Then, there is the marked shift in attitudes toward Israel. Between 1978 and 2014, white liberals consistently reported sympathizing more with Israel than the Palestinians. Since March of 2016, this trend has turned on its face: Significantly more white liberals now report greater sympathy for the Palestinians than for Israel.

    First, immigration between 1965 and 2000 is precisely connected to race. The race replacement of the historic European majority.

    Second, if he can somehow use political jujitsu to make mass immigration something that is “bad for the Jews”, I wish him luck.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  77. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:

    The Moral Majority was at its height in the 1980s but did nothing when the law was changed to make almost all student loans non-bankruptable.

    It is only fair that student loans are non-dischargeable. It isn’t right or just for students to force other people to pay for a benefit that they received and in many cases retain. (Do they give back their degrees and return their knowledge and training (and good times) to society?) If anyone should pay, it is those who made the decision to spend and directly benefited from it. Making the loans nondischargeable ensures that if in the future they make sufficient income to pay, then they will pay their debt. If they don’t, they won’t pay anyways. People aren’t being put in prison for not paying.

  78. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    the moral psychology that drives them.

    What is the moral psychology that drives them?

    • Replies: @Alan Mercer
  79. “Wokeness”…a term that started in black cultural. Well mainly because they butcher the English language. Years ago my daughter, a psychologist, told me that she informed a black mother that her child needed a bedtime and more sleep. The black mother responded…”I tells him to stay woke in class.” So, too much credit for new terminology, just poor language skills.

  80. @The Z Blog

    The lack of self-awareness by fellow whites is breathtaking. Even after thirty years of noticing it, I’m still taken aback by it.

    Self-awareness or hypocrisy?

    Self-awareness or mendacity?

    The Evil White Scum are very well aware of what they are doing.

  81. Alfa158 says:
    @Dave from Oz

    ? Please show how you calculated that 0.29 x 2 = 0.48

    • Replies: @Forbes
  82. syonredux says:

    Over the past decade, the baseline attitudes expressed by white liberals on racial and social justice questions have become radically more liberal. In one especially telling example of the broader trend, white liberals recently became the only demographic group in America to display a pro-outgroup bias—meaning that among all the different groups surveyed white liberals were the only one that expressed a preference for other racial and ethnic communities above their own.

    Racial suicide in action…..

  83. Alfa158 says:
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    Btw here’s another classic old bit of twisted pseudo math in case you haven’t seen it. :
    x = y.
    Then x2 = xy.
    Subtract the same thing from both sides:
    x2 – y2 = xy – y2.
    Dividing by (x-y), obtain
    x + y = y.
    Since x = y, we see that
    2 y = y.
    Thus 2 = 1, since we started with y nonzero.
    Subtracting 1 from both sides,
    1 = 0.

  84. @Authenticjazzman

    Do you mean their fetishization of other races is really just condescension?

    I remember a liberal making some weird confessions to me, as in perverted sexual encounters, that made him look and feel pretty dirty. But in the midst of this long conversation, he kept re-iterating how he’s not racist or sexist or any of that. He wanted his supposedly pure approach to humans not wearing his skin color to propitiate his sins of the flesh. He had lived with such moral degradation that he needed to have some other virtue he could point to in order to live with his own conscience.

    I talked to another organic vegetarian pot-smoker who had the same sort of justifications. So I pollute my mind and body with drugs? Lookit, to compensate I eat organic salads all the time. Not stuff like McDonald’s and Coca-Cola.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @dfordoom
  85. nebulafox says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    It’s nothing more than the old colonial and missionary impulses, psychologically. Different ideological garb, to be sure, especially in substituting the “deplorable” whites for Satan for reasons just as self-serving as they are pathetic. But in terms of the essential mentality lying underneath, it is absolutely identical to previous generations of men who, though they might be condemned today as racists and bigots, were recognized as what they were at their time: *progressives*. They, the elect, have a moral mission. They are going to accomplish it. No matter what. The non-whites are to be the beneficent children in their world-view on some level, though-not they!-they were never explicitly think of it that way.

    And make no mistake: children. Not equals, children. If college admissions were anything remotely resembling fair in the United States, all our elite schools would be predominantly Asian. Think they want that? Not just on a practical level concerning their own children, but on an ideological one? Think closely about the impulse that above all, rests on the white liberal’s status as the guiding light, even in the midst of ostentatious public self-flagellation…

    One can look at SJWism as an attempt to do Christianity without a deity: and without the resulting belief in human fallibility.

  86. Using the standards that are applied to gentiles, Israel is a white supremacist settler colony which means it will eventually have to be destroyed by any means necessary.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  87. nebulafox says:
    @stillCARealist

    They fear they are not part of the elect, on some level.

    Some of them can’t avoid the cognitive contradictions between boasting about “Diversity” as a cure-all for the ills of the world, and the fact that, beyond levels fully controllable by their community (the kind of control that they’d insist is racist if applied by the nation as a whole) or fully superficial, they are curiously eager to avoid it in their own lives as much as possible and instead “give” it to people they most openly despise. Of course, some can handle the cognitive dissonance, but not everybody is made out to be a true-thinker, regardless of ideological bent.

    That makes them feel bad.

    That makes them wonder if they aren’t so different from those filthy, evil rednecks.

    So they’ve got to constantly assert that they aren’t. Somehow…

  88. nebulafox says:
    @BigDickNick

    I’m often amused by how alt-righters don’t seem to pick up on the fact that Israel under Likud is a much more accurate ideological template (as well as a more achievable one) for what they want than Putin’s Russia could ever hope to be.

    • Replies: @istevefan
  89. @Rational

    I bet the “white people” he claims are more left than left are….Judaists!!

    Then why are they kissing Arab ass? Semitic solidarity?

  90. @Cloudbuster

    There’s no good reason to blur the faces in the video.

    They weren’t blurred– they weren’t shown at all. I bet that’s a fraction of the video footage available.

    The extra-wide grins with shiny metal teeth didn’t make the final cut.

  91. @Anonymous

    What if “they” are in the majority and want their children’s and grandchildren’s unpayable debt forgiven? Who would complain? Answer:A roomfull of old crank Libertarians….

    These high interests loans should have never been given in the first…The banks knew this….so the bankers must have had fantasies of chattel slavery….

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  92. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:

  93. @L Woods

    Are rapid dogs the same as running dogs?

    • Replies: @L Woods
    , @donut
  94. @Anonymous

    It is only fair that student loans are non-dischargeable. It isn’t right or just for students to force other people to pay for a benefit that they received and in many cases retain. (Do they give back their degrees and return their knowledge and training (and good times) to society?) If anyone should pay, it is those who made the decision to spend and directly benefited from it.

    This is far too harsh. The borrowers have no way to judge whether the loans are worth it. That alone should settle the question.

    Moreover, many people who take out loans do not end up with any degrees, useful knowledge, or training. And the people who lend the money work assiduously to create conditions that devalue any degrees, knowledge, and training they receive.

  95. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    Is it all about blacks and none of the other races matter to these wokers? So the religion of wokeness is basically negro worship. The most effective way these woke whites are helping blacks is by interbreeding/cucking with blacks to make them less black, perhaps sn unspoken realization that nothing else will work?

  96. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, here it is just blame the jews, asian and other minorities for all their woes. The real villains are of course, liberal whites and white women in particular along with the original problem group that the whites brought upon themselves centuries ago.

  97. correction:

    But the origins of the concept is originally not a “black thing”.

  98. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    The borrowers have no way to judge whether the loans are worth it. That alone should settle the question.

    They have many ways to judge whether it is “worth it” to them. No one is in a better position than them. It is their decision and their responsibility. It isn’t fair to stick someone else with their bill. And by the way, whether a borrower subjectively decides whether a loan was “worth it,” is a pretty low bar for canceling a debt, besides being fraught with perverse incentives.

    Moreover, many people who take out loans do not end up with any degrees, useful knowledge, or training.

    If they’ve taken a substantial number of courses, they’ve received useful knowledge and training. If they haven’t taken a substantial number, then their debt burden will be low.

    No one is being thrown in jail here. People who generate income after college or graduate school should use part of it to repay their educational loans. It would be an unjust enrichment for them to profit from the income and stick an innocent person with the cost they took on to generate it.

    And the people who lend the money work assiduously to create conditions that devalue any degrees, knowledge, and training they receive.

    Nonsense.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  99. istevefan says:
    @nebulafox

    I’m often amused by how alt-righters don’t seem to pick up on the fact that Israel under Likud is a much more accurate ideological template (as well as a more achievable one) for what they want than Putin’s Russia could ever hope to be.

    First, it matters little to us whether Israel is run by Likud or any other party. The US government’s position on Israel, its annual subsidies, and general bidding in their interest will remain the same.

    Second, who is pushing for Putin’s Russia to be a model? The people on my side of the aisle are just no longer going to automatically hate Russia now that the communists are gone, despite what the warmongers want us to believe. We have no ethnic animosity towards Russians. So now that the communists are gone, we don’t share your enthusiasm for continuing to oppose a people that do not pose a threat to us. Further, the fact that they seem to be attempting to return to their Christian faith, and oppose the globo-homo agenda, makes them somewhat sympathetic in our eyes.

    • Agree: Tex, William Badwhite
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Peter Akuleyev
  100. Clyde says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Though their facial images were incompetently blurred…Yes sure looked like it was Indios abusing the “young cows” as they were called. On a corporate dairy farm.

    Leader of Mexico-based La Luz del Mundo church, with branches in America and more than a million followers, is charged with child rape and human trafficking after landing at LAX https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7108049/Leader-La-Luz-del-Mundo-church-charged-child-rape.html

    10 images– all Mexican Indio followers of this creep

  101. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    What if “they” are in the majority and want their children’s and grandchildren’s unpayable debt forgiven?

    How do we determine whether it is “unpayable”? The best way to do that is to keep it nondischargeable.

    These high interests loans should have never been given in the first…

    In point of fact, they are low-interest loans and they are already subsidized by the government and American taxpayers.

    The banks knew this….so the bankers must have had fantasies of chattel slavery….

    No one is being thrown in jail or forced to work due to nonpayment of their student loans. If you make enough income to pay something, shouldn’t you have to pay it?

  102. istevefan says:
    @Whiskey

    And can you please identify the time when young White women began to hate White men? Was it during colonial times? Was it during the Revolution or the Civil War? Perhaps they hated White men around the time of WW2. Of course the post-war baby boom might suggest otherwise.

    So when exactly was it that White women began to hate?

  103. Michael S says:

    Whatever the true cause, it’s obvious that Trump is a reaction to #TheResistance, not the other way around.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  104. anon[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @eugyppius

    Now we’re being invaded by savages trying to convert us heathen to their idiotic and despotic religion.

  105. @Jus' Sayin'...

    Beat me to it — and added the CoC link, too…

    Goldberg’s piece is a decent analysis, but note the way that it frames the issue: “Is White self-hatred good for the jews, and for the jewish settlers in Palestine?” That’s his entire focus.

    When was the last time you saw a piece in any mainstream outlet asking “Is ____ good for the White community?” Even the phrase “White community” is verboten (compare to Black, jewish, Asian, mestizo, etc.).

    As Dr. Joyce lays out in your two linked Occidental Observer pieces, the plan was always to use mass media and “education” to inculcate whites with self-hatred/ active out-group preference.

    From your second link:

    As Samuel H. Flowerman, Research Director at the American Jewish Committee and colleague of the Institute for Social Research [Frankfurt School] explained in his 1947 essay, “Mass Propaganda in the War Against ‘Bigotry’,” the Tribe needed

    six conditions for a radical transformation of values in the White American demographic majority:

    1) Control of the channels of mass communications;
    2) Saturation with Pro-tolerance messages;
    3) Crisis, designed or accidental;
    4) Diminishment of Cultural Pride and Self-esteem;
    5) Cultivation of Self-Punishment and Group Self-Sanctioning;
    6) Sponsorship of willing dupes or traitors.

    They were able to meet all of these goals/ use these techniques effectively, and were largely successful in their mass social conditioning project. The intent was to instill out-group preference toward all non-White peoples. But what they apparently failed to anticipate — or at least adequately allow for — was the effect of jewish crypsis on the outcome. The combination of White self-hatred, coupled with the notorious “My Fellow White People” technique of “aggressive mimicry”

    seems to have led to White shitlibs to view the Tribe merely as a group of unusually-privileged “Whites.” Far Left Whites sometimes fail to realize that they “need” to make an intersectionally-unprincipled exception for jewish privilege.

    Not a bad analysis overall, but perhaps a better title would be The Unintended Consequences of Toxic Semitism

  106. @James Forrestal

    Tablet is a Jewish magazine.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  107. @Anonymous

    The New York Times David Brooks: Jews are not White.

    It’s called “tactical whiteness.”
    Otherwise known as “aggressive mimicry”, or the “My Fellow White People” technique.

    • Replies: @SFG
  108. I can only hope White liberals take their new found “wokeness” to it’s ultimate conclusion. That is moving to Nigeria and indenturing themselves to Black Africans, as the only complete and bonafide reparation for the centuries of liberal guilt they feel.

  109. @Steve Sailer

    Tablet is a Jewish magazine.

    Of course — and the average man in the street has never heard of it. But it’s an influential one — how many NYT “journalists” read it?

    Can you name a “White magazine” that occupies anything like a similar position in terms of influence?

    And it’s not hard to find examples of the “Is it good for the Tribe” focus as the first, last, and only consideration when discussing a topic in ostensibly “non-jewish” periodicals.

    Take this, for example, in the NYT:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/17/style/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner.html

    President Kushner meets with multiple (((megadonors))) from both wings of the Uniparty, to get their input on policy — does that mean he’s “good for the jews?” Or is he still lacking in hyperethnocentrism?

  110. Olorin says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    The baby boomers are evil and immoral and they are money-grubbing scum.

    The evil treasonous rats born before 1965 will rot and burn in Hell.

    Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss goy. Let the hate flow through you.

    Flog those 1960s marketing research demographic categories used to sell Product to young people!

    Now flog the people! Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!

  111. L Woods says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Pre-caffeinated spelling. But when you put it that way “rapid” kinda works too.

  112. L Woods says:
    @istevefan

    Somewhere around the time that white men were stupid and vain enough to begin regarding and treating them as “equals,” I’d expect.

  113. Forbes says:

    Over the past decade, the baseline attitudes expressed by white liberals progressives on racial and social justice questions have become radically more liberal left-wing.

    FIFY.

  114. @War for Blair Mountain

    The logic: if ten million immigrants are good, 100 million immigrants will be great!

  115. @ben tillman

    Is there data available showing loans that are in default cross-referenced by major? I’d guess those most unable to repay their loans are those most unemployed or under employed (e.g. some nose-ringed barista), which most likely correlates with the uselessness of the major.

    If those suffering are mostly Grievance Studies majors and other such nonsense, I’m happy to see them continuing to suffer.

  116. Alfa158 says:
    @istevefan

    An incremental process, but (very) roughly 1960’s.

  117. Forbes says:
    @anonymous

    Or trust me, we know it’s NOT 1990.

  118. @James Forrestal

    What we are seeing is the internet’s impact on disintermediating information. Within a decade it has severely eroded the mass / mainstream media’s / deep state / corporate monopoly to control the narrative and there is not much anybody can do to stop it.

    It has already gutted the printed news and it is in the process doing the same to television news. It will take longer with the higher production work like TV shows and movies but even there we feel the wind of change (a la Harvey Weinstein, deep fake, foreign production and ownership, etc.) And (((they))) thought it would never change.

    The elites have one last ace up their sleeves in the form of trying to monopolize the internet by but that type of repression will ultimately fail. The public has an appetite for the truth and it wills out.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  119. @Anonymous

  120. @anonymous

    C’mon, Sean Hannity’s only 57.

  121. Forbes says:
    @Tono Bungay

    I believe the recent studies of police use of deadly force demonstrate, whites were more likely to be shot than were blacks, when controlled for police interactions by race, i.e. blacks having a substantially higher violent crime rate than whites, and therefore more contact, per capita, than whites.

    The analogy, or comparison, of police shootings with being struck by lightning is rather inapt, as lightning strikes would be a random event, while presumably police shootings are not. Similarly, the context of being killed by a right-wing extremist is suggestive of murder, while police shootings that amount to murder–while high profile–are rare exceptions, not the rule.

    Goldberg needs to go back to the drawing board on this topic…

  122. Whiskey says: • Website
    @istevefan

    The sexual revolution though you can see precursors in the temperance movement and Seneca Falls convention.

    Uniquely White too. You never see Black or Hispanic or Asian women repeatedly bashing their men only White woken do this.

    The pill being widely available, penicillin, rising female independence plus rising status of other men makes 90 percent of White men disposable as betas. Japan and China suffer some of this but don’t have non Asians strutting around as conquering men.

    I can agree that wokeness = Christianity without Christ.

    A neo pagan could do very well preaching a religion of White male superiority arguing it’s the only way incels get laid. Sadly the Church has failed in this regard being a homo only haven.

  123. Paul says:

    “Since March of 2016, this trend has turned on its face: Significantly more white liberals now report greater sympathy for the Palestinians than for Israel.”

    Yes, but Jews give much more money to Democrats and Republicans than do Palestinians. As usual, follow the money. The Democrats, especially, have their snouts in the trough.

    • Replies: @BigDickNick
  124. Travis says:
    @Christopher Chantrill

    Well said..
    More and more progressives became “woke” during the Obama regime , as it become obvious to all that 60 years of social welfare, integration, forced bussing , head start, affirmative action , section 8 housing, and Obamacare would never reduce the gaps between blacks and whites. Progressives got whatever that wanted over the last 50 years abortion , free condoms, open borders, gay marriage, free health care, even a Black President, an executive branch composed of progressives and a Democratic congress was not enough to change the status quo. Blacks were still struggling, still facing mass incarceration , still failing to get ahead….

    Since all the progressive social policies of the last 50 years have failed, they have doubled down on blaming racism and past injustices like Jim Crow laws in Alabama for the problems Blacks face in Detroit and Philadelphia today.

    Another reason for the rise in wokeness is due to the great recession and the failure of many college grads to find decent employment and the failure of women to find suitable husbands. The lack of jobs and lack of spouses has greatly contributed to the rise of crazy leftist progressives. Single women are toxic to our culture , as are jobless males. This combination of single women and jobless men will continue to wreck our nation. It appears there is no end in site to this grand , as fewer and fewer girls are able to find spouses and fewer and fewer men are able to obtain decent wages.

  125. Forbes says:
    @Alfa158

    Math down under, apparently…

  126. Forbes says:
    @Travis

    This is partly due to the great recession and the effect it had on young Americans, who could not find work , thus they remained in school longer getting further indoctrinated or getting part time jobs which demoralized them..

    The Misery Index (Unemployment rate plus inflation rate) was far higher in Jimmy Carter era, up to the 1982 recession. In other words, the job market was worse and for longer than the so-called great recession–yet the end of times wasn’t invoked, socialism wasn’t advocated, and getting government out of the way was the way forward.

    Seems the achievement gap between Hard America and Soft America is very real.

    • Replies: @Prodigal son
  127. nebulafox says:
    @istevefan

    >First, it matters little to us whether Israel is run by Likud or any other party. The US government’s position on Israel, its annual subsidies, and general bidding in their interest will remain the same.

    Doesn’t make it a bad role model to follow, policy-wise, particularly when it comes to middle-class fertility boosting policies.

    >So now that the communists are gone, we don’t share *your enthusiasm* for continuing to oppose a people that do not pose a threat to us.

    I’ve been unmasked.

    https://images.app.goo.gl/2Kq8B6VgRDRGF3tD9

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  128. Alden says:
    @istevefan

    Whiskey is a repulsive physically hideous social misfit who’s never had sex in his frustrated life. His only outlet is posting his hatred of women on the internet. “Blue haired feminists” Idiot True feminists never dyed their hair because it’s against their ideology. True feminists have long witch like gray going white hair.

    Because Whiskey is a repulsive 60 year old virgin, he blames women for the fact that he’s a disgusting old creep. He’s too poor to pay prostitutes.

  129. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    I think that all student loans should be repaid. By the universities!!!! Until they all go bankrupt and have to close down.

    So what if the interest rates on student loans are low? All interest rates are way way too low.

  130. @Kent Nationalist

    It’s not good for the Jews. That is what I find so annoying among my liberal Jewish friends. They think it’s a good idea to bring in more people who hate us.

  131. Forbes says:
    @istevefan

    Betty Friedan, second wave feminism, The Feminine Mystique, circa 1963.

  132. @Anonymous

    How do we determine if it’s unpayable? How bout 40-50 years of college debt? If the basis of giving the loan was illegitmate……the loan is discharged…Larger point:Majority Rule…..Not Banker Rule….Or rule by Warren Buffet…..This is what is happening to the people of Greece…..

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  133. @anon

    …supports amnesty for all 15 million illegal aliens currently living in America.

    Probably significantly more than that. From a Yale study released last year:

    Generally accepted estimates put the population of undocumented immigrants in the United States at approximately 11.3 million. A new study, using mathematical modeling on a range of demographic and immigration operations data, suggests that the actual undocumented immigrant population may be more than 22 million.

    https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twice-as-many-undocumented-immigrants-as-previous-estimates

    • Replies: @Unobserved Spectator
  134. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Zero Ashkenazi Jews in the Bible. That’s for sure.

  135. Sean says:
    @Whiskey

    https://www.apstudynotes.org/us-history/topics/transcendentalism-religion-and-utopian-movements/

    Of particular importance, women could attend and participate in religious revivals at a time when many social outlets available to men, such as taverns and fraternal organizations, were neither considered appropriate nor allowed for women. This offered revival preachers a natural female constituency that contributed immeasurably to their success.

    A historian of the military and other aspects of Battle of Gettysburg explains

    The Second Great Awakening was by largely self taught preachers of the backcountry who were away from Doctors of Divinity in New York sinecures. The backswood preachers taught that “people were the captains of their own fate, and since Judgment Day could come at any time … take immediate action to ensure the redemption”. Charles Finney the Burnt Over districts Of New York ( hellfire preacher) “became president of Oberlin College in Ohio, the first U.S. college to admit women and blacks and a hotbed of abolitionism .They also considered “education a hindrance to converting souls since conversion is not a matter of the mind but of the spirit. Energy, sincerity, and a powerful message of faith and redemption were the necessary requisites”. They self taught preachers simply ignored the theologically dense argument for Predestination . That is how the can-do Perfectionism, the Transcendentalists’ moral perfectionism came about. “Gender egalitarianism in religious matters marked a break with the past and offered women the opportunity to acquire standing in the community without treading on the secular prerogatives of their husband”. Women were prominent in demanding the prohibition of alcohol, and the abolition of slavery.

    So if history is any guide “The Great Awokening” is down to unqualified people spouting about race and women being happy to agree with them. Gettysburg did not settle anything it seems.

  136. BenKenobi says:
    @nebulafox

    Neb, pointing to Israel as a country to be emulated is something that comes up a fair amount around here.

    Remember that scene in Enemy at the Gates where the German soldiers on the troop train are watching Col Ed Harris in his fancy private car?

    Israel is Ed Harris and we’re the soldiers.

  137. @TelfoedJohn

    A liberal of my acquaintance has four daughters who are even more liberal than he. Feminists to the core. They are childless and will continue to be so and will thus contribute to their demographic decline. A conundrum of sort because they are bright and well-educated. but does society need more liberal offspring?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  138. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/antiracism-our-flawed-new-religion

    ^This is basically Zach Goldberg’s entire brainstorm, but 2 full years earlier and with a slicker prose style at that

  139. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Simply Simon

    That seems like a misreading of the fundamental psychology. It’s mathematically implied that the most successful feminine genetic traditions are the ones enabling either of liberal/conservative, domestic/interleckshual, Madonna/whore behavior, depending on what the circumstances require.

    Build a society that incentivizes liberal posturing and the chicks gon’ dance to that tune.

  140. @Anonymous

    Zero white people? Even if you exclude Jews/Levantines as white by some weird reason, there are some Greeks and Romans mentioned. Why is he not counting them?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Calogero
  141. @obwandiyag

    The founder of socialist health care in Canada

    No, the UK has socialist health care. Canada has socialist health insurance. There’s a difference.

    Under socialized medicine you could easily outlaw all abortions, simply by prohibiting state health care workers from performing them. I.e., apply the Helms Amendment at home.

    There were lots of them back then. But that was before TV preachers and Fox.

    In 1962? In Saskatchewan?

    By the way, Conrad Black or Charles Bronfman can waltz into a Canadian hospital and be treated free of charge. Richard Branson and JK Rowling can do the same in London. How is that not welfare for the rich?

  142. @The Last Real Calvinist

    Becky about to get her wig split!

    “Paging Henry Higgins. Henry Higgins, you are needed at the court side seats. Thank you.”

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  143. @jb

    Wow, Tablet makes you pay to comment, or even read the comments. And it’s not cheap either: $180/year! Wave of the future?

    When Commentary reviews books, they don’t give much information, but they do give you the price. That’s not just odd, it is blatantly so. Are they blind to the optics?

  144. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    How do we determine if it’s unpayable?

    By imposing a cost for nonpayment (nondischargeability), and seeing if despite the cost, people do not pay.

    How bout 40-50 years of college debt?

    That’s little different than the term of a home mortgage. And it’s in exchange for benefits (education, credentials, status, training) that last a lifetime. It makes sense that the debt would be amortized over the life of the asset.

  145. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Zero white people? Even if you exclude Jews/Levantines as white by some weird reason, there are some Greeks and Romans mentioned. Why is he not counting them?

    He is talking about the stars of the drama. The good guys.

    It is part of the ongoing campaign to demoralize White Gentiles.

  146. @Forbes

    College grads found better jobs back in 1980 than today and housing costs were lower than today. 40% of 30 year olds were married in 1980 , and today just 20% are married. In 1980 22% if young adults lived with their parents , today 33% live with their parents. This is mostly due to lower wages and higher housing costs. If we still measured inflation as we did in the eighties the current inflation numbers would be much higher.

    The recession of 1981 mostly effected blue collar workers, the unemployment rate for college grads reached 2.9% in 1982 and was 5% from 2009-2011 fell to 2.5% in 2017. For young college graduates (under 25) the unemployment rate reached 10% in 2009, and was still 5.7% in 2016 and the under-employment rate was 12.6%. Thus from 2009 – 2016 the unemployment rate for college grades was twice as high as the unemployment rate for college grades from 1980 – 1983 when we experience two recessions.

    The some young adults are mostly college grads , many with large debt from attending college and now finding employment in jobs which do not require a college degree.

    In addition to higher housing costs, the cost of a college education has risen tremendously since 1980, more than double the rate if inflation. Health insurance and health care have also risen exponentially since 1980.

    • Agree: Travis
  147. Marty T says:
    @anon

    So what you are saying is Republicans should do what we can to make him the nominee?

  148. donut says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    I want to thank you again Steve for the comments of mine that you don’t pass .

  149. Calogero says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Is Pontius Pilate no longer considered to be a white man by David Brooks? Or is it that he does not consider The New Testament to be part of The Bible?

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  150. Wilkey says:
    @Anonymous

    It is only fair that student loans are non-dischargeable. It isn’t right or just for students to force other people to pay for a benefit that they received and in many cases retain.

    The fact is that most 18 year olds just aren’t smart enough to know what they can or can’t afford. Perhaps the college should be on the hook for 20% of it and the parents for another 20%. Then there are more people who make sure the students are pursuing a path that makes financial sense.

    The modern student loan scam is encouraging a lot of dumbass ideas that are moving this country far to the Left. We need to do everything we can to cut off their air supply. Defunding schools that spend 10-20-40 million dollars on “diversity” (yes, they are out there) would be a really good place to start.

    • Agree: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  151. @The Last Real Calvinist

    Yes, it’s the same old thing, except now the white saviors have to save the world from white people.

  152. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey

    Perhaps the college should be on the hook for 20% of it and the parents for another 20%.

    I don’t see how you could legally put the colleges on the hook for past loans.

    But you could in a way allocate responsibility to family members (parents, siblings, grandparents, aunts and uncles) by allowing discharge if they come forward and pay a certain percentage. That’s more fair than forcing innocent strangers to bear the cost. To qualify for a discount, however, only families with assets below a certain amount would be allowed.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    , @Wilkey
  153. @Paul

    in south africa, whites have a lot more money than blacks. At a certain point, when you have the numbers you can just take the resources.

  154. dfordoom says: • Website
    @darth plastic

    if democrats take over in 2020……just might cement the change from capitalist society to socialist one.

    If only that were true. But I’ll make a wild prediction – that a Democrat President will slavishly serve the interests of the bankers and Big Business the same way every previous president has done.

    If you’re fretting about an imminent socialist takeover you’re still fighting an ideological war that ended half a century ago. The ideological war today is not socialism vs capitalism.

  155. dfordoom says: • Website
    @stillCARealist

    I talked to another organic vegetarian pot-smoker who had the same sort of justifications. So I pollute my mind and body with drugs? Lookit, to compensate I eat organic salads all the time. Not stuff like McDonald’s and Coca-Cola.

    I used to know this guy who was a chain-smoker, a heavy drinker, a pot smoker and a regular heroin user. But he would never eat meat because meat is really bad for you.

    • Replies: @Corn
  156. Ed: “I wonder if it has to do with the declining importance of religion among white liberals? That this SJW nonsense has taken the place of religion and they are it’s true believers out to stamp out any heretics.”

    It’s a big mistake to set up an opposition between Christianity and modern liberalism. Modern liberalism is a Jesus-less sect of Christianity; one that, as Spengler observed about Marxism, has its roots in Christian theological thought. It acts like a religion and its adherents act like religious zealots because it is, and they are. Recognize that big liberal causes in contemporary America such as women’s rights and minority rights can trace their genealogy back to the Second Great Awakening of the 1820s, which fueled the abolitionist movement and eventually led to the Civil War, the result of which was full citizenship and the vote being given to negroes. All the rest of the unfolding racial disaster white America is currently experiencing got its start there.

    America was founded by Puritans, Christian religious fanatics so uncompromising in their beliefs they had to leave Europe, and has never collectively apostatized from that religion. Liberals may deny being Christians, and revile other Christians and even Christ himself, but unless they reject Christian ethics, specifically, the utopian Christian vision of universal brotherhood, they should still be regarded as adherents of rabbi Jesus. Disputes between Christians about what constitutes true Christianity and what is heresy have raged for almost two thousand years, so their seeming enmity towards each other isn’t unusual; it’s more the rule than an exception.

    Obscuring this connection serves the purposes of both sides though, so its easy to lose sight of it and become deceived. Church-going Christian “conservatives” want to distance themselves from liberals even though liberals merely call for them to live up to raceless Christian ideals. They also can use the dispute to call for a return to “real” Christianity, by which they mean their particular sect; so it’s a good recruitment tool. Liberals, on the other hand, may want to distance themselves from church-going Christians and even Christianity, but this is just a pose, like an ex-prostitute who now claims to be reformed, or an alcoholic who got on the wagon and stopped drinking. No matter what they may claim, liberals remain the spiritual descendants of abolitionist John Brown, a Christian religious fanatic referred to by his contemporaries as “the last Puritan”.

  157. Some of these changes arguably stem from Trump’s rhetoric and policies on immigration

    No, Trump’s rhetoric resonated with Americans precisely because white liberals moved too far left. The Republicans have produced fringe candidates trying to stop immigration in every election since LBJ, but until liberals went so far left that average Americans actually had to stop and question what the hell is going on , that rhetoric found no purchase inside or outside the Party.

    I have met many Trump voters who will say that they don’t like Trump as a person, disagree with him on economic policy and foreign policy, but felt that he was the only person willing to stand up to “Political Correctness”, which is generally code these days for “hating whitey”.

  158. @Calogero

    Is Pontius Pilate no longer considered to be a white man by David Brooks? Or is it that he does not consider The New Testament to be part of The Bible?

    Given that he is Jewish, I assume the latter.

  159. @istevefan

    we don’t share your enthusiasm for continuing to oppose a people that do not pose a threat to us

    That’s where you’re wrong. Putin and his regime constantly promote hatred of the US on Russian media, try to undermine American influence in Europe and Asia, and actively try to create chaos and dissent inside the United States.

    That has very little to do with the “globo-homo agenda”, and a lot more to do with Putin’s own domestic situation. Putin has singularly failed to bring Russia into the 21st century. Moscow looks great, but the rest of Russia is still economically backward, lacks infrastructure and dependent on exporting the country’s natural resources. Since USSR collapsed, the oligarchs ruling Russia (and Putin is one) have continued to loot the country, have gutted the health care and education systems, driven hundreds of thousands of Russia’s best minds abroad, and turned most of the Russian Far East into a de facto Chinese colony. (Oh, and I forgot about importing millions of Tajiks, Uzbeks and other Central Asians into Russia, rapid growth of the domestic Muslim population, and giving political influence to Chechen gangsters). Corrupt regimes always need to find external enemies to blame in order to distract attention while they rape and pillage, and Putin and co. have settled on the US. Trump is popular in Russia as long as the perception remains that 50% of Americans hate him. If Americans rallied around Trump, he would quickly become enemy number one in Russia.

  160. Lurker says:
    @IHTG

    Could be but if it were I think we’d see more successful push-backs here and there.

    They’re so inconsistent & irrational that wokeness should lead into all sorts of dead ends and tactical defeats. I just feel it all infers that somebody has to be around with the power to keep hammering the square pegs into round holes. Keeping the narrative on track.

  161. @Peter Akuleyev

    That’s where you’re wrong. Putin and his regime constantly promote hatred of the US on Russian media, try to undermine American influence in Europe and Asia, and actively try to create chaos and dissent inside the United States.

    Sure you aren’t getting Putin mixed up with Soros? Or Bezos? Or CNN? Or Ilhan Omar? Or Bette Midler?

  162. Old Prude says:
    @BigDickNick

    I agree. The bastards turned my once lovely state of Indiana into a bilingual outpost of Guatemala. I find myself buying Mexican tomatoes rather than those raised in Massachusetts because I know they weren’t picked by illegal immigrants.

  163. anon[682] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    Any pictures of Joe Biden at age 43?
    I reckon he could be a dead ringer for Don Addams.
    Which might explain his appeal to Whites.

  164. @Peter Akuleyev

    “Putin has singularly failed to bring Russia into the 21st century.”

    Russia would be a lot further into the 21st century if a gang of Jews (e.g., Larry Summers and the Harvard economist set) hadn’t deliberately wiped out Russian savings and looted the country.

    You think we aren’t aware of the number of Jews among the oligarchs? Putin may be a Chabad sock puppet, but no Russian leader has a lot to work with when what little wealth remained in the USSR was spirited away by a bunch of hooked-nosed goblins.

    “Moscow looks great, but the rest of Russia is still economically backward, lacks infrastructure and dependent on exporting the country’s natural resources.”

    Backward compared to what? Detroit? I’d much rather walk around Rostov or Kazan than Detroit or Baltimore.

    ” Since USSR collapsed, the oligarchs ruling Russia (and Putin is one) have continued to loot the country”

    Those would be called Jews, honey buns. Jews. I dare you to name me two of them who aren’t, and Putin is of partial Jewish heritage.

    Same for Ukraine.

    “driven hundreds of thousands of Russia’s best minds abroad”

    Yeah, they can make more money abroad. Go figure.

    “turned most of the Russian Far East into a de facto Chinese colony.”

    If you knew geography at all, you’d figure out that Russia spans Asia. There are Asians in Russia who actually live there. That they would welcome in Chinese (particularly Chinese males who cannot find wives in China due to their idiotic sex selection) is not a surprise.

    In general, Russians cannot hold onto the East if they have 1.7 kids per woman while Uzbeks have 4. This is hard math for you, I am sure. The demographic problem can be laid at the feet of those who wrecked the economy.

    “If Americans rallied around Trump, he would quickly become enemy number one in Russia.”

    This is a counter-factual that you have precisely zero evidence for. In my travels in Russia, most Russians couldn’t give two sh#ts about America since they are too busy worrying about how to make ends meet.

    Your reasoning is so bad that I am guessing that you are one of those goblin-lookalikes.

  165. SFG says:
    @James Forrestal

    I think his point was if he’s writing in a Jewish magazine you’d expect him to appeal to Jewish interests, and if he induces a few defections from immivasion advocacy and/or wokeness, even for self-interested reasons (see: David Frum) it would be a good thing for the country.

    I disagree with none of your statements about what these people in the media are doing and have zero sympathy for them at all. I personally advocate for immigration restriction ‘to let the demographic fights cool off so we can fight climate change’ (to liberals) or ‘to keep the country the way it’s been working’ (to conservatives). But I don’t have a newspaper or even a column.

    (My mom told me she was white when I asked her, and seemed to think the question was weird. But she outmarried, of course.)

  166. @Anonymous

    See Nietzsche’s slave morality for a first approximation.

  167. Prior to this century, I never heard anyone, Jew or gentile, assert that Jews are not white.

    I suspect that one of the influences behind the notion that Jews are not white was Noel Ignatiev, a genocidal racist who reduced race completely to politics. For Ignatiev, nobody is white and whites must be annihilated. (When people took him seriously, he lied and said he was only speaking figuratively when he wrote, in 1993, “Abolish the White Race – By Any Means Necessary.”

    When people say they want to kill me, I take them seriously. I’m funny that way.

    Ignatiev is a Jew by birth, but his religion is Marxism. There is a hugely influential movement today of Jewish Nazism. That refers to Jewish Marxists who seek to bring about Holocaust II. They all support BDS, and their most famous member is Peter Beinart.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  168. jim jones says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Yes, most of Russia is pretty primitive:

  169. Corn says:
    @dfordoom

    I’ve mentioned this before but this puzzles me about our society nowadays:

    Smoking tobacco is increasing considered trashy or prole but smoking cannabis is increasingly not only tolerated but almost encouraged.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    , @Anonymous
  170. @EliteCommInc.

    The term is totally unrelated to biblical “wokeness” (if there ever was popular use of the term in such a context, which I doubt). It became a meme based on a video of a black losing consciousness after being shot by a troubled inner-city yoof who was surely the victim of a food dessert and until that point din do nuffin wrong. Seeing that he was falling asleep from blood loss, rather than try to staunch the bleeding a black bystander resorted to yelling “stay woke!” in an attempt to keep him from losing consciousness.

    To try to connect this vapid pop-progressive catchphrase to the biblical tradition blacks inherited from white southerners is an insult to both religion and presumably to the progressive gremlins who use it (and whom would probably catch fire if they ever darkened the door of a church).

  171. @Chrisnonymous

    Basketball Becky deserves it for being dumb enough to invite two ghetto people to sit next to her at the Urban Polo match. What did she expect, gratitude? Black people don’t do manners.

  172. @Anonymous

    I don’t see how you could legally put the colleges on the hook for past loans.

    Come on. Just require them to co-sign the loan documents. If they want the money, they can sign.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  173. @L Woods

    ” Trite so very trite”

    Many of the most profound truths do in fact appear to be trite to the simple-minded.

    AJM

  174. @Nicholas Stix

    Prior to this century, I never heard anyone, Jew or gentile, assert that Jews are not white.

    lolwut?

    “Only national unity, closer ties and bonds will preserve the Jewish race.”

    Nahum Goldmann (נחום גולדמן), founder and for many years president of the World Jewish Congress, also a long-term president of the World Zionist Organization, 9/18/61, at the 25th anniversary WJC gala.

    You might also look through, say, Disraeli’s writings for the term “jewish race.” Or the works of Moses Hess, the famous progenitor of both Communism and Zionism.

    In asking whether the jewish people share a common identity with the indigenous peoples of Europe, you’re really asking two (related) questions:

    1. “Objective”: Do the jewish people cluster with the indigenous peoples of Europe (and their diaspora) in terms of genetic and cultural heritage?

    https://forward.com/culture/155742/jews-are-a-race-genes-reveal/

    2. “Subjective”: In current-year parlance, do jews “identity” as part of the indigenous peoples of Europe?

    See the use of “race” above.

    Clearly, hyperethnocentrism is quite common among jews — they tend to view all goyim as “different” or “other” in some fundamental way, and tend to subscribe to ideologies like Holocaustianity and Judaism that portray jews as both intrinsically superior, and always victims — subject to constant baseless persecution by the evil, hate-filled goyim. But people of European heritage and Christians are viewed as particular threats to the Tribe.

    The of jewish self-identification is frequently complicated by the common use of a technique that the goyim often refer to as the “My Fellow White People” canard, “toxic semitism,” or, more simply, “lying,” where tribesmembers express intense anti-White hatred while claiming to identify as White — yet in other contexts, they clearly do not see themselves as part of the same group as peoples of European heritage. Essentially, they spew virulent hatred of the White goy Other… but present it as “self-hatred.”

    For example:

    – verified GQ writer
    – calls white people ‘fellow whites’
    – thanks blacks for ‘saving white people from themselves’
    – claims ‘black excellence is taking a back seat to white people fucking up’
    – says ‘white people get away with awful things’

    ‘as Jewish as they come’ folks

    I suspect that one of the influences behind the notion that Jews are not white was Noel Ignatiev

    Hardly. Ignatiev’s message was essentially “My Fellow White People, ‘Whiteness’ is a social construct that needs to be eradicated.” He had to claim to identify as White for that message to be effective.

    But Ignatiev is yet another good example of the genocidal hatred of White goyim as the Other — as ‘Amalek’ — that is commonly seen in MOTs, but is typically disguised as “White self-hatred.”

    Take a look at this piece from the Sulzberger Blog — note how the “journalist” works to enable both Ignatiev’s aggressive mimicry, and the long-discredited semitic canard of “race = just the color of the skin”… from the very first question:

    Q: You’re white. Do you hate your own hide?

    Note also the clear projection of Ignatiev’s own intense ethnic identity onto the innocent White goyim in this response:

    The white race is like a private club based on one huge assumption: that all those who look white are, whatever their complaints or reservations, fundamentally loyal to the race.

    And the way that he encourages his “Fellow Whites” to abandon the last remaining vestiges of their own group identity, to reject any degree of in-group preference — while retaining his own:

    Defy the rules of whiteness — flagrantly, publicly. When someone makes a racial slur in your presence, say ”You probably think I’m white because I look white.” Challenge behaviors that reproduce race distinctions.

    It’s just a more sophisticated version of what the Twitter “Fellow White People” are doing in the examples above.

  175. @Anonymous

    They have many ways to judge whether it is “worth it” to them. No one is in a better position than them.

    They certainly have knowledge of relevant facts that others don’t, but they are more ignorant than older adults about other crucial facts and possibilities. They cannot possibly make a properly informed decision about taking out the loans.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  176. @James Forrestal

    Far Left Whites sometimes fail to realize that they “need” to make an intersectionally-unprincipled exception for jewish privilege.

    One of Yggdrasil’s readers made this point 20 years ago in response to Ygg’s discussion of Dr. Strangelove:

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books_added2009-3/YggdrasilsLibrary.pdf

    What the IP is confronted with here is a very scary potential scenario. The bureaucratic machine that they rely on, that they think they control, is filled with intelligent people fully capable of acting in furtherance of the goals with which they’ve been presented and indoctrinated in. The fact that these are not the true goals of the people in control of them is a fact that they cannot be allowed to become aware of, and that disconnect makes potential for very dangerous mistakes.

    So far, so good, however.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  177. Alden says:

    Debbie Wasserman Schultz has founded a congressional black jewish caucus whose object is fighting White Supremacism. Or in other words, eradicating non Jewish Whites from the face of the earth or at least America. She’s trying to compete with the black muslim ladies of congress who are stealing the black puppets away from their rightful owners Every Jewish publication and website in the country applauds this new caucus and praises the historic union of blacks and jews against the evil White goyim.

  178. Wilkey says:
    @Anonymous

    Nothing you can do about existing loans, I suppose, but you can certainly do this going forward.

    And I think it’s one of those things you can tie around the necks of the Democrats. They pretend they want to help reduce student debt but they would refuse to do anything that would hurt left-wing academia.

  179. @Reg Cæsar

    This goes on over and over and over, and each time we’re supposed to be surprised and appalled. It’s always the same people, and we’re not supposed to talk about that.

    Animals are treated horrifically throughout the third world, so we import third worlders to mistreat the animals here in the USA. Doing the work Americans just wont do.

  180. @Michael S

    Not completely. Wokeness was in the air before Trump, but some of the most absurd parts of Wokeness are in reaction to Trump. Leftists want to be against Trump, no matter what Trump is doing.

    Not long before Trump announced his run for president, Democrats were split almost evenly on the question as to whether they supported a wall.

    When Trump announced, suddenly it changed to about a 3-1 or even 4-1 margin of Democrats who are against the wall.

    Why is the wall bad? Why are Democrats against ANY proposal that comes from Trump?
    Because they want to be against Trump.

    The ironic thing is, the same Democrats who are behaving this way are the one who complained the most when Republicans did the same thing with Obama, i.e. opposing anything Obama was for because Obama.

    It is hard to tell what was more absurd. Romney running in 2012 and opposing the Affordable Care Act which was based on RomneyCare because by 2012 every Republican had to be against the ACA, or Hillary Clinton repudiating her husband’s immigration policies in order to be the anti-Trump.

    I think Romney was a little more ridiculous, just because Mr. Romney running against Mr. Romney was a little more absurd than Mrs. Clinton running against Mr. Clinton.

    And there you have it. One of the big reasons why the country is getting so insane is that the Left and the Right are both willing to destroy the country if it means pissing off the other side.

    I am not exaggerating. For example, against the advice of historians, the extremely Woke mayor and Common Council in Madison spent six figures to remove a stone commemorating CSA POWs who died in the city of Madison during the Civil War. Far more would have died, except that Madison civilians during the Civil War did whatever they could to feed and care for the POWs. As in, people whose loved ones were fighting against the Confederacy were spending their time and money to help out Confederate prisoners.

    But, Madison had to erase all trace of these soldiers. One leftist told me this had to be done to piss off Trump supporters. I wish I were joking. I am a non-Woke leftist whose ancestors fought on both sides, and the disgraceful treatment of the memory of fallen American soldiers offended me greatly.

  181. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @Authenticjazzman

    A lot of the shrieking and wailing about ‘racism’ is protective camouflage. Look at what I say not what I do.

  182. Feryl says:
    @Corn

    2nd hand cig. smoke is extremely noxious, and leaves a stench that takes months to eradicate. And since child safety has been paramount since the 1980’s, well……Good luck telling modern people that cigs are no big deal, given the established danger of 2nd hand smoke.

  183. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corn

    I noticed this 20 years ago. The anti-smoking campaign was just another example of the Boomers sticking it to their parents.

  184. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    I was also going to mention this. It seems to be a recurring theme in Jewish history. Over-literal gentiles following Jewish instructions but doing so in such a way that they end up harming Jews.

  185. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @William Badwhite

    Come on. Just require them to co-sign the loan documents. If they want the money, they can sign.

    That refers to loans made at a prior time. Maybe they could do what you suggest going forward.

  186. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    They cannot possibly make a properly informed decision about taking out the loans.

    Sure they can. These are people–often adults–with more than twelve years of education under their belts already from one of the world’s richest and most advanced countries. Your statement is too extreme.

    But, even if they could not, it is only fair that they, and not some innocent third party who did not receive the cash and benefits, be the ones to pay it back. They aren’t being thrown in prison. They are just being asked to pay it back if they can.

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